1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:09,160 The July 20th, 2026 regular session meeting of the Cinnaminson Township 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Committee is now called to order. Everyone, please rise and join me in 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,960 saluting the flag. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:22,000 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:28,080 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,080 justice for all. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:36,160 » This meeting is being held in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act, 8 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:39,440 Public Law 1975, Chapter 231. Notice of this meeting was published in 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:45,520 the Burlington County Times and the Courier Post on January 9th, 2026. 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Roll call vote, please, Madam Secretary. >> Yes, Mayor. 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Mr. Forner. Or Mr. Conda, I'm sorry. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,840 » Here. >> Mr. McGill. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,480 » Here. >> Dr. Caldwell. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,080 » Here. >> Deputy Mayor Segrest. 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,480 » Here. >> Mayor Forner. 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,360 » Here. >> Thank you. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,200 » All right. Moving on to the committee liaison 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:07,080 reports. Committee member Conda, administration and Veteran Affairs. 19 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:11,360 » Okay, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I've got a short one this evening. Uh last month we 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,480 designated Thomas Boyd as our communications company. Since that time, 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,640 they've begun to take a deep dive into all aspects of how the township 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:24,800 interacts and informs the residents. And we expect at some point we will have uh 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:28,440 report and some ideas on how to improve our methodologies and that is the 24 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:30,080 entirety of my report, sir. >> Nice. You were short. 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,240 » Thank you. >> very much. Committee member McGill, 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Public Safety. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:41,840 Uh the June stats are as follows for the police department. Total incidents 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:47,040 responded to was 2662. Total cases pulled were 106. 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:53,560 Total arrests made, 50. Total property checks made, 1042. 30 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Total motor vehicle stops, um 987. 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Motor vehicle summonses issued, 737. Total DWIs was five. 32 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:10,399 Um total MVAs is 73. Of those MVAs with number with injuries 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:15,120 is seven, resulting in 10 injuries. Uh Morgan Cemetery, 1100 Simmons Avenue, 34 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,959 60 uh incidents, all property checks. 35 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,080 Uh approved firearm permits, five. Uh 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,160 denied or withdrawn firearm permits, zero. 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Approved concealed carry permits, zero. Uh denied concealed 38 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:34,840 uh carry permits, zero. Temporary handicap permits issued was 39 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,280 eight. Uh I have a couple other things 40 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:42,120 underneath that. Uh for Nixle, the township uses Nixle to notify residents 41 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,600 of important announcements, including public safety issues, such as traffic 42 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:50,200 closures. Currently, approximately 5,000 residents 43 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:54,720 are currently registered. Uh residents are encouraged to register 44 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:59,720 to receive these important messages uh by visiting nixle.com. 45 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,680 The uh AARP driver safety course 46 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,120 uh township is sponsoring the AARP drive 47 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,400 AARP driver safety course scheduled for July 48 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,400 25th. This class is open to anyone 18 years or older 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,760 who also possesses a a driver's license. Residents who take this class will be 50 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,920 eligible uh for a minimum 5% discount on their 51 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:28,320 car insurance as well as the forgiveness of two points assessed for any moving 52 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:33,000 vehicle violations. That means current If you have two or more, that'll take it 53 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,480 off. Not You can't wait like two years down the road and get a 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:40,200 speeding ticket and say, "Oh, I want my two points off." Doesn't work that way. 55 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Uh if the issue it is a speeding, a traffic counter will be placed on the 56 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:48,760 roadway for a week. The traffic counter will give us data to see 57 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:53,320 as to how many vehicles travel on the road, the average speed, the best times 58 00:03:51,239 --> 00:03:58,440 to enforce speed issues, if there are any, as well as any other information. 59 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Uh one more thing, I think we have uh well, a couple things. National Night 60 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,960 Out if I can 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,600 get to that. Here it is. National Night Out is always the first Tuesday in 62 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,920 August, which this year happens to be August 63 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,720 4th. The event will take place at Wood Park 64 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:19,440 from 5:00 to 8:00 p.m. Uh the event will include displays from 65 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,640 the Simonton Fire Department and EMS, Burleson County Prosecutor's Office, 66 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:24,840 Burleson County uh 67 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Sheriff's Office, Sheriff's Department, and of course, the Simonton Police 68 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,800 Department. Uh the event will also include a car 69 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,680 show, inflatables, music, face painting, and as well as 70 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,240 free food and refreshments. National Night 71 00:04:36,919 --> 00:04:42,600 is a time for the community to come together and to get to know all the 72 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,120 first responders that serve our community. 73 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Last thing I have is St. Charles Carnival. 74 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:52,840 For the most part, the St. Charles Carnival was a success from the public 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:56,040 safety uh standpoint. The fence and other added security 76 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,880 measures prevented any major problems inside the carnival. 77 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:04,960 However, on Saturday, June 13th, when the carnival was over, there was a large 78 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:08,800 crowd of approximately 300 juveniles and young adults who were just standing 79 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:13,360 around the area of Branch Pike and Pomona Road. Several fights broke out. 80 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:16,840 The this resulted in several arrests. Fortunately, no one was hurt. The police 81 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,520 department will work with the carnival personnel next year to make changes to 82 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:25,280 prevent this type of uh incident next year. 83 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:28,680 And that concludes my report, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you very much. 84 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,480 Committee member, Dr. Tara Wells, Health and Senior Services, please. 85 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,680 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The Health and Senior Services Committee continues to 86 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,400 work on the initiatives that were described in the last meeting, so I 87 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,080 don't have any updates at this time. >> Okay, thank you very much. Deputy Mayor 88 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Seagrist, Public Works and Finance. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I have a few Two 89 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:51,560 from our Public Works department. Brush crews are currently collecting in 90 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:57,280 section three. As a reminder, curbside brush collection 91 00:05:53,920 --> 00:06:02,680 is for residential properties only. Contractors are not permitted to place 92 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:07,480 brush at the curb. I'm happy to report that leaf mulch will 93 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:13,440 be back in stock by the end of this week and will once again be available for our 94 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,440 residents at our public works yard. 95 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:20,360 We continue to move forward with this year's road improvement program 96 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:24,520 including improvements to Perry Road, Thomas Avenue, 97 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:30,240 and improvements to Wood Park parking lot. Separately, Fairfax Drive 98 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:34,600 is in the planning stages for potential fall improvement. 99 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:40,720 The township is also continuing to pursue grant funding for additional 100 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:44,800 roadway and infrastructure improvements. Additionally, the Jefferson Street and 101 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Adams Street culvert project is now approximately 85% complete 102 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:54,200 representing another important investment in our storm water 103 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:59,440 infrastructure. Finally, with all the recent storms, I'd 104 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:03,560 like to thank Superintendent Kevin Gaunt and the entire public works team 105 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,919 for their continued hard work keeping Cinnaminson safe, clean, and well 106 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,960 maintained. That concludes my report, Mr. Mayor. 107 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:15,440 » Thank you very much. I do not have a report this evening, so moving on, we do 108 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:19,360 have an ordinance for a public hearing. That's ordinance 2026-8. 109 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:24,320 An ordinance amending the land use procedures of chapter 330 of the 110 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:28,919 Township of Cinnaminson to add the definition of and to amend the 111 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Cinnaminson Township zoning ordinances to prohibit uh data centers. 112 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,440 » Um if I may interject here, Mr. Mayor. >> Sure. 113 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:44,000 » Um over the past month since this has been 114 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,240 introduced, I've done uh significant amount of research to help in my 115 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:52,040 decision on this ordinance, and and here is my 116 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,600 conclusion at this point. Um currently 117 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,320 several municipalities, most recently Andover, 118 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,280 have been sued over their ordinances concerning hyperscale data centers. 119 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Um we really should take a good look at the 120 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,680 verbiage in our proposed ordinance to ensure that we're not opening up the 121 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:13,280 township to a lawsuit, which would require a fair 122 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:16,840 amount of taxpayer money to defend. In addition, if we lose any litigation, 123 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,919 we could be required to accept the data center regardless. 124 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Uh also, what I have found in the past couple of days, Governor Sherrill has 125 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,840 recently signed into law restricting the construction, 126 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,880 regulating, and restricting the construction of this type of data 127 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:37,719 center. There's also additional pending legislation to further determine 128 00:08:35,719 --> 00:08:42,000 how these data centers will be regulated and restricted. Because of this, passing 129 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:46,000 an ordinance puts a new law on the books, which will possibly duplicate 130 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:49,600 something that's already in place. Uh I don't believe it's necessary at 131 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:55,360 this time to do anything until at the very least the town or the state decides 132 00:08:53,360 --> 00:09:00,040 what they want to do and which direction they would like to go. So at this time, 133 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:03,640 I would like to introduce a motion to table this ordinance for the time 134 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:07,120 being and revisit it once the state has determined what we need to do. 135 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Do we need a motion for that? >> You do. 136 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,520 » But do we need a second for that? >> You need a motion and a second to to 137 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 table. >> Uh am I allowed to make that motion? 138 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,280 » You can make that motion. >> I would like to make a motion that we 139 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,480 table this until uh further research can be done 140 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,920 um and until the state decides the 141 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:32,480 direction that the state would like to go. Um and I would also like to mention 142 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:38,560 in addition that currently we have no applications forward and no discernable 143 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:43,960 interests in a data center of this size in this Township. So we are not under 144 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,840 the gun to do this immediately. We can afford to wait a bit. So I would like to 145 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,000 make a motion that we table this ordinance for now. 146 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,200 » Can I ask a question? >> Sure. 147 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:01,280 » Um if we table this 148 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:05,800 would is this going to be on the agenda our next meeting or 149 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:10,760 » It It certainly can be on the agenda next week. That's up That's up to the 150 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:14,320 committee and when you make the agenda. Uh 151 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,520 if you are tabling it to do more research, you would just want to make it 152 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,840 clear that you're not necessarily It may not 153 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:26,880 necessarily be on the next agenda. That's all. Um if we don't have 154 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:31,440 what we need at that point. Uh to to uh Mr. Khanna's point, there is pending 155 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,440 legis- potential potential legislation uh that we need to consider and 156 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,400 obviously um 157 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:40,640 the ordinance itself uh and the definition therein in order to make sure 158 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,080 we're we're um 159 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:50,440 going to at least do a deep dive into potential litigation and potential 160 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,760 taxpayer costs related to that. So you you can certainly 161 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:58,920 um table it and you get a second 162 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:02,160 and then um you don't have to put it on the next 163 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,360 agenda, but if you're not going to ultimately reintroduce it, you're you're 164 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,360 have to remove it. 165 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:15,360 » Anybody else have any questions? >> I just have a follow-up question to 166 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:19,320 that, Ben. Sorry. So if it is decided to be tabled, I 167 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:24,800 think one of the concerns is the timeline to reintroduce the discussion. 168 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:29,640 So if it's not part of the agenda next meeting, can we also hold ourselves to a 169 00:11:26,839 --> 00:11:33,080 timeline to rediscuss it? Is that part Could that be part of that as well? 170 00:11:30,839 --> 00:11:35,920 » You can You can do whatever you like. Um in in in terms of that, if you want to 171 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,240 uh put a time frame on it, you can discuss 172 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,000 it at the next meeting as to whether you were or 173 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,200 what the in terms of an update where you are with 174 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:50,640 it. Um obviously, we're not going to discuss um 175 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:55,400 anything that is confidential or is uh attorney-client but in public, but uh 176 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,400 other than that, yeah, you can certainly give an update in that regard. 177 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:04,080 » Just to Committee Member Candace's point, the state is having some talks 178 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,480 about this very discussion. However, we don't have a timeline as to when that'll 179 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,320 be finalized or when we'll get the information that we need. So, I just I 180 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,960 just would want I wouldn't want the committee to have this as just a 181 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,360 something that's outlined that we don't revisit. I think that that's an 182 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:23,880 important point as well. >> And if you if you don't mind, my 183 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:28,200 my thought is at the very least let's see where the current litigation 184 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,680 falls out or how the current litigation falls out. I wouldn't want to say 185 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:36,520 next month or the month after or the month after that because this thing 186 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:40,200 particularly in um Andover 187 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,560 most recently can be tied up for quite some time. 188 00:12:40,839 --> 00:12:48,320 » Right. Right. >> Um and we are somewhat protected in that 189 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:52,920 in every zone the zoning ordinances in Cinema 10 as 190 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:56,000 well as other towns um 191 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,440 allow you to they have permitted uses and non-permitted uses. Permitted uses 192 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,400 are explicitly permitted. >> Right. Right. 193 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,360 » If it's not explicitly permitted, it's default 194 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,400 uh prohibited. >> Right. 195 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:11,720 » So, it they would have to jump through some 196 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,440 hoops in order to get something in here through the you know, through the 197 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:19,200 cracks. So, it's the the the current zoning ordinances give us a certain 198 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,280 level of protection as it stands. 199 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,960 » Yeah, I recognize that the the current um ordinances as they're written do give 200 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,000 us that certain level of protection, which is actually great. I think that 201 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,680 that was some of the point of discussion that we were having here just outlining 202 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,320 what the process looks like. So that's good. Everyone was aware that there were 203 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,920 protections in place. >> There are There are currently 204 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:41,040 protections in place. This was just a belt and suspenders measure. And I don't 205 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,160 want belt and suspenders to result >> Understood. 206 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,840 » in litigation against the municipality. >> Understood. 207 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Uh do we have an idea about how the ordinance as it's currently written, if 208 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:52,480 it does pose a major risk, or is that Would Would that be discussed only if we 209 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,080 move forward with >> I'm sorry, I I couldn't hear you. 210 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,000 » Do we have any [clears throat] idea about the ordinance as it's currently 211 00:13:56,680 --> 00:14:02,040 written, how much risk it does pose to the community in Condos, um 212 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,040 » The current zoning is that I mean well, in 213 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,440 you know, the way that >> Because there are the There are 214 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,840 litigations >> Oh, litigation is always 215 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:13,120 a factor and that's part of the reason that we have to do and that's 216 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:17,280 stuff that we would have a discussion about. That's and 217 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,640 something that's would be an attorney-client conversation 218 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,680 in in terms [snorts] of potential litigation and what that would look 219 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,000 like. Um But yeah, that's certainly something we 220 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,960 would want to look at. >> To Mr. Condos' point 221 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,960 » to avoid that cost. And And look, it is costly. 222 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:39,640 » Um >> Litigation of this nature is costly. So 223 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:43,320 you you want to be aware of that. >> Mr. [clears throat] Minton, can you 224 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:49,040 confirm no applications or any indications of interest at this time? 225 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:53,760 » Yes, I can. As of 6:00 tonight, there are none. I would also add as currently 226 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,440 zoned this evening, there are no suitable sites. Every other site is 227 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,080 protected either by a Every other large site large amounts 228 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,600 of land >> redevelopment plan 229 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,360 » are protected either through farmland preservation 230 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,160 » redevelopment >> developers' agreement. 231 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,280 Um you know, I must say in good conscience 232 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,120 someone mentioned the golf course lots in a residential zone. So 233 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:20,080 for at least in the short-term as you're considering the ordinance, you have 234 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,160 sufficient time. There's nothing pending in front of us. 235 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:26,760 Or any interest at all. Any Mr. Mr. Shuberry has received 236 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,960 There's no inquiry whatsoever. >> No increase to me, either. 237 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:42,200 » So, right now we have a motion to table this ordinance. And we're just looking 238 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:46,680 for a second at this time. >> that, Mr. Mayor. 239 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,000 » Thank you, Mr. McGill. Um Madam Clerk, I'm guessing this is a roll 240 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,400 call. >> Yes. 241 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,480 » Okay. If you would, please. >> Absolutely. 242 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,680 » Thank you. >> Mr. Colangelo. 243 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,960 » Aye. >> Mr. McGill. 244 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,160 » Aye. >> Dr. Taylor-Walsh. 245 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:03,800 » Uh before I do, can can I ask that we do give a timeline to reintroduce this 246 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,840 before moving forward? With an answer, do I have to give an answer? 247 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:10,800 » To a timeline to reintroduce it? >> reintroduce or to give an update as to 248 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,360 where our research is going. >> Okay, so 249 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,760 » Yeah, so >> you can do 250 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,720 The motion is to table. Is that the You have to amend the motion if you're going 251 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,920 to do that. Um >> So, all right. So, um let's see if you 252 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,000 guys don't mind, let's kind of talk through that a little bit. 253 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:32,920 » I'm I'm personally I'm reluctant to amend it to include a timeline cuz 254 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:37,440 the timeline solely depends on a ton of outside 255 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,720 forces that we have no control over. >> How about a discussion? 256 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,839 » Even if that's >> Or a discussion about 257 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,480 » How about a discussion? >> That is the update, though. 258 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,880 » Yeah, that is the update of the motion. >> Yeah, that is discussion is 259 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,880 » That I'm happy to I'm happy to amend >> I don't know that you need You don't You 260 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:53,120 don't actually have to put that in the motion. You can come to an agreement to 261 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,040 to just provide an update. >> And then we we can we can put a 262 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,600 discussion item on the agenda at any time. 263 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:03,160 » Yeah. Yeah. You can >> I mean, for him for for for his I would 264 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,680 like to actually wait until the the government the our governor has some 265 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:11,520 kind of yea or nay for this before we go, 266 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,920 you know, full into it and then she says no, whatever. I'd like to hear from the 267 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,800 governor first. >> Sure. 268 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:20,199 » And some of these lawsuits that are happening. I mean, I I agree with Paul. 269 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:23,400 I really don't want to spend a lot of uh taxpayer's money 270 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,240 defending. >> I I definitely think that that's 271 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,560 reasonable. I don't disagree with that point. I think it's when we're looking 272 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,800 at tabling it and saying that we're waiting 273 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,560 for more information. Um giving updates as to whether where we are in get it 274 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,000 gathering that information. If there's no update, there's no update, but at 275 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,360 least if we keep that in discussion, so it's still a talking point. 276 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:48,440 » could do one or two things here. You can I think a 277 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:52,680 amend the motion to table with an update at a date certain at a at a meeting 278 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,280 certain, or you can just keep the motion as is 279 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,440 and just agree that you're going to give an update. 280 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:03,760 » periodically >> Yeah, so I think I think what's fair is 281 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:08,520 that we can continue with this motion, but on public record that that we will 282 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:14,120 provide an update um as part of an agenda item 283 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:17,920 at the next meeting, even if it's just to simply to say we're still working 284 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:22,480 through that. So, for the benefit of the public, we they can certainly expect to 285 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:25,320 see that item on the next agenda. Um 286 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:28,280 you know, I certainly could give that during the economic development report 287 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,240 um in conjunction with Mr. Mitten and Mr. 288 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:35,000 Shoe Begger and anybody else that would like to to weigh in at that time. I 289 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:38,600 think that's certainly a reasonable request. 290 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Um we good with that? Is that Is that good? 291 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,680 Is he okay with that? The motion will stay the same. 292 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,720 With understanding there'll be an update at the next at the next meeting. 293 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,840 » Yes. >> That's good. 294 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,680 » Good. >> Mr. McGill, you good with that? 295 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,000 » Yeah, I >> I 296 00:18:57,748 --> 00:19:01,040 » [laughter] >> Okay. 297 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:06,080 » I >> I 298 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:08,520 » Okay, so just for the the public's sake and 299 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,400 um Jeff 300 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,440 for correct me if I'm wrong, there will be no public hearing on this 301 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,240 item this evening. >> There will not be. 302 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,120 » There will not be. Okay. Right. Okay. 303 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Okay. All right. 304 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:32,080 All right. So, moving on to the consent agenda. 305 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:36,880 We have resolution 2026-75 authorizing purchase of a zero turn 306 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:41,160 mower through Sourcewell Public Works Superintendent Kevin Gaunt recommends 307 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:45,640 the purchase of a zero turn mower from Hustler Turf in the amount of $16,413 308 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:54,200 through the Sourcewell Cooperative Purchasing Agreement. Chief Financial 309 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:57,800 Officer Purchasing Agent Julie Edmonson has determined that sufficient funding 310 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,840 is available for this purpose and recommends [clears throat] that the 311 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:05,560 governing body authorize the award of the contract. 312 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Resolution 2026-76 authorizing purchase of computers from 313 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:15,920 Dell Marketing LP through state contract for computers for the police department. 314 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:20,680 Police Chief William Obuchowski and IT Professional Revell recommend that the 315 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:24,920 Township contract with state contract vendor Dell Marketing LP for the 316 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,920 purchase of computers in the amount of $30,645. 317 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,880 Ms. Edmonson has determined that sufficient funding is available for this 318 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:38,520 purpose and recommends that the governing body authorize the award of 319 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:42,920 contract. Resolution 2026-77 authorizing extension of grace period 320 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:47,520 for third quarter taxes. This resolution extends the grace period 321 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:52,800 for collection of third quarter taxes to August 31st due to the mailing of the 322 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:58,720 tax bills being delayed as the Township awaited the final county tax rate. Tax 323 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Collector Sandy Root and Ms. Edmonson have reviewed the status of the tax 324 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:07,200 bills and recommend the governing body authorize the extension. 325 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Resolution 2026-78 authorizing participation in the 326 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:16,360 Educational Services Commission of New Jersey Cooperative Pricing System. Ms. 327 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Edmonson recommends that the Township participate in this cooperative 328 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:24,000 purchasing agreement to obtain competitive pricing and timely delivery 329 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,120 of certain goods and services including vehicles and equipment. 330 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:34,400 2026-79, amending resolution 2026-72, 331 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:39,160 which was the last meeting, renewal of liquor license. This governing body 332 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:45,200 previously also authorized the renewal of the liquor license for Sweetwater at 333 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Hathaway's, Inc. for the 2026-2027 term. Since authorization, the Division 334 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:56,600 of Alcohol Beverage Control has advised Municipal Clerk Lisa Passione that the 335 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:01,600 license has been amended to an in-pocket license. As such, Ms. Passione 336 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:05,920 recommends that the recommended license designation is authorized by the 337 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,840 governing body. 2026-80, 338 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:15,720 authorizing approval of change order and payment for Jefferson Street and Adams 339 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Street Culvert Project. Project Engineer Pinoni recommends a change order in the 340 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:25,720 amount of $1,000 and a payment to contractor Gemini in 341 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 the amount of $39,494 342 00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:31,840 for the culvert improvements at this location. Ms. Edmonson has determined 343 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:37,160 that sufficient funding is available for this purpose and recommends that the 344 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:43,240 governing body authorize payment. Resolution 2026-81, 345 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:49,640 supporting application of Riley Farms LLC to operate cannabis establishment. 346 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:55,200 The Economic Development Committee previously reviewed plans for a proposed 347 00:22:52,080 --> 00:23:02,640 manufacturing and cultivation cannabis business to be located at block 702 lot 348 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:07,280 30 within the Township. In order for an application to receive the appropriate 349 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,960 state license, the New Jersey State Cannabis Regulatory Commission requires 350 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:16,400 a resolution of support from the local municipality. The Economic Development 351 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:21,440 Committee and appropriate township officials determined that the proposed 352 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:27,240 use is in accordance with the previously adopted cannabis establishment land use 353 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:31,120 report and applicable township land use ordinances. Thus, the Economic 354 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Development Committee recommend that the governing body authorize a resolution of 355 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:40,000 support for this proposed use. The governing body authorized the resolution 356 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:45,360 of support for manufacturing and cultivation at the at that time. The 357 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:50,560 applicant has since amended the project plan to include a retail component. 358 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:55,640 Thus, this resolution updates the previous resolution of support to 359 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:59,040 include this new component. The Economic Development Committee and appropriate 360 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:03,720 township officials have determined that the proposed use remains in accordance 361 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:10,280 with the previously adopted cannabis establishment land use report and 362 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:15,920 applicable township land use ordinances. To be clear, this action merely confirms 363 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:21,280 the proposed use is in accordance with the current land use plan and ordinances 364 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:27,000 for this purpose and is a condition of the state license sought by the 365 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:32,000 applicant. The applicant will still need to undertake the same process as any 366 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:39,760 other proposed business with all applicable land use boards. 367 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Resolution 2026-82 authorizing budget amendment for grant 368 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:52,160 appropriations, Chapter 159. The township received grant awards in 369 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,160 the amount of $45,110.28 370 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:59,920 for Clean Communities, $5,100 371 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:06,960 $56.76 for the alcohol education and 372 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,960 rehabilitation fund and $42,515.66 373 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:15,040 for recycling tonnage. Mr. Mentsin recommends the insertion of these 374 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:20,320 additional appropriations into the budget. 375 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Resolution 2026-83. Resolution declaring that the real 376 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:34,680 property identified as block 2312 lot 2 and block 2302 lot 4 are areas in need 377 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:38,160 of non-condemnation redevelopment and/or rehabilitation 378 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:42,880 pursuant to the local redevelopment and housing laws N.J.S.A. 40A:12A-1 379 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:50,160 and directing the Township Planner, Taylor [clears throat] Design, to 380 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:54,080 prepare a redevelopment plan identifying the most appropriate uses for the 381 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,760 parcels. Little backstory to that, the governing 382 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:06,480 body previously authorized the planning board to determine if block 2312 lot 2 383 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:11,080 and block 2302 lot 4 are areas in need of redevelopment or rehabilitation. 384 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:16,440 These areas are located on Route 130 North and are commonly known as the Main 385 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:21,400 Line Shopping Center and Cinnaminson Diner Center. The planning board 386 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:26,960 determined that the study area qualifies as a non-condemnation redevelopment area 387 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,320 consistent with applicable statute. Therefore, the Economic Development 388 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Committee recommends that the governing body authorize a resolution to direct 389 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Township Planner, Taylor Design Group, to prepare a redevelopment plan for the 390 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:48,480 subject property which will identify the property's most appropriate uses. 391 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Resolution 2026-84. Resolution authorizing payment of $5,000 392 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:58,560 as affordability assistance for an affordable housing unit in 393 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:04,480 accordance with the Township's fourth round housing element and fair share 394 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:09,880 plan and spending plan. Habitat for Humanity has requested affordability 395 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:15,360 assistance in the amount of $5,000 for property located at 548 396 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:20,000 Kern Street, which is subject to an affordable housing deed restriction. The 397 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Township's adopted fourth round housing element and fair share plan includes a 398 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:29,600 commitment to the continued support for Habitat for Humanity in its efforts to 399 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:36,560 provide affordable housing throughout the Township. We ask the committee 400 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:42,320 to please consider that $5,000 uh for this use. 401 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:47,640 That is the end of the consent agenda. May I have a motion to open public 402 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,680 comment on consent agenda items only? >> I will make that motion, Mr. Mayor. 403 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,400 » Thank you very much. May I have a second? 404 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,000 » I'll second that, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you. 405 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,474 Voice vote, all in favor. I. >> I. 406 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 » Opposed? >> [clears throat] 407 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:04,040 » Abstentions? Hearing none, public comment on consent 408 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,720 agenda items is now open. Please come forward, state your name and 409 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720 address for the record. 410 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:26,520 » Good evening. Renee Oladavis, 2108 Hunter Street. I just was curious 411 00:28:24,329 --> 00:28:32,880 [clears throat] about where uh Riley Farms was going to locate this cannabis 412 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,880 establishment. 413 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,600 » Mr. Madden, would you like to provide detail on that, please? 414 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,240 » 1400 Yes. Yes, Mr. Mayor. >> I know Mr. Riley's here, but I'm sorry, 415 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,640 say that again for the record. >> 1400 416 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Union Landing Road. >> Thank you. 417 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,240 » Thank you. >> Um 418 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,400 and is 419 00:28:53,240 --> 00:29:00,360 what type of business is it going to be? Is it going to be 420 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:04,960 open uh to the public? Is it going to be retail or wholesale? And don't we 421 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,720 already have another cannabis establishment in this area? 422 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,360 » Uh Mr. Mate, would you like to give some detail surrounding the overall operation 423 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440 and then the restriction as far as the uh 424 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,320 » [clears throat] >> retail component is, please? 425 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,320 » Sure. >> Thank you. 426 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,320 » So, this is one of those Please first keep in mind the planning board has not 427 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,520 yet heard the application. >> Okay. 428 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,880 » So, I'm going to speak from what I know on a limited basis, but I don't have the 429 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,080 fine points. It's subject to change if the application does come before the 430 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,920 planning board. Uh 431 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:41,160 previously the governing body had authorized 432 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:45,160 a letter of support for manufacturing uh and warehousing. Manufacturing and 433 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:51,480 manufacturing cultivation. You might recall we had an issue though 434 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,760 that it was adjacent to uh the landfill which was zoned for inclusionary 435 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,760 residential. We We've since corrected that 436 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:04,120 and asked them at that time to hold in abeyance 437 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:09,400 their request for retail at that location until we could resolve that 438 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:15,120 inconsistency. The governing body did resolve that inconsistency, excuse me, 439 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,280 amended the cannabis ordinance, and now retail at that property is permitted. 440 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Under the ordinance, retail is limited to 10% of the floor plate, not to exceed 441 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,680 3,000 sq ft. So, if you think about a Wawa, a Wawa is 442 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:34,080 about 4,500 sq ft. You can see it's about 2/3 of what a Wawa store would be, 443 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,520 limited to that property at that site. >> And 444 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:41,520 » inside the larger operation? >> Inside Inside must can't be stand-alone. 445 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,560 And so, it has to be similar to the project I think you're referring to on 446 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,760 Taylor's Lane, Green Lightning, which is the only other 447 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:53,480 cannabis retail manufacturer retail center we have in town. 448 00:30:50,280 --> 00:31:00,720 » Okay. So, the other property that's either on Gary or Wallace that is 449 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:04,040 manufacturing only um >> Yes, ma'am. 450 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Yes, ma'am, 100%. And that's a liquid I'm not a chemist I don't know the exact 451 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,080 » Mhm. >> description but but they're making a 452 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,560 formula based uh to distribute. That's not what he said. 453 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,880 » And where would people enter this property? Would they enter from Union 454 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Landing? >> I don't know, ma'am. We haven't seen the 455 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,960 site plan. >> Okay. 456 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:25,080 » So, that's all uh appropriately asked of the planning board at that time. 457 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080 » Okay, thank you. 458 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160 » Thanks, Mike. 459 00:31:30,351 --> 00:31:32,371 » [laughter] 460 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:41,920 » Okay, seeing no one else come forward, may I have a motion to close public 461 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:45,320 comment on consent agenda items, please? >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Mayor. 462 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,840 » Thank you very much. I will second that. Voice vote. All in favor. 463 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,560 » Aye. >> Opposed, abstentions. 464 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,480 May I have a motion to approve the consent agenda as read, please? 465 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,120 » I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda as read, Mr. Mayor. 466 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:02,320 » Thank you. I will second that. Roll call vote, please, Madam Secretary. 467 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,440 » Yes, Mayor. Mr. Conda. >> Aye. 468 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,000 » Mr. Miguel. >> Aye. 469 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520 » Dr. Taylor-Walls. >> Aye. 470 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480 » Deputy Mayor Seagrass. >> Aye. 471 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240 » Mayor Horner. >> Aye. 472 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,960 » Thank you. >> Moving on to the approval of minutes. We 473 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:17,960 had one meeting in June that was June 15th. May I have a motion to approve the 474 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,520 minutes of the June 15th, 2026 meeting, please? 475 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:24,200 » I'll make a motion to approve the minutes as read from the meeting of June 476 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,680 15th, 2026. >> Thank you very much. May I have a 477 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,080 second, please? >> I'll second. 478 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,320 » Thank you. Roll call vote, please, Madam Secretary. 479 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480 » Yes, Mayor. Mr. Conda. >> Aye. 480 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,880 » Mr. Miguel. >> Aye. 481 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 » Dr. Taylor-Walls. >> Aye. 482 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,560 » Deputy Mayor Seagrass. >> Aye. 483 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240 » Mayor Horner. >> Aye. 484 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,280 » Thank you. >> Okay, moving on to the bill list. I'm 485 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,880 assuming everybody had an opportunity to review that list, ask any appropriate 486 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,440 questions regarding any of the bills. So, with that said, 487 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,680 » Yes, sir. >> may I have a motion to approve the bill 488 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480 list, please? >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the 489 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,440 bill list. >> Thank you. I will second that. Roll call 490 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,200 vote, please, Madam Secretary. >> Mr. Conda. 491 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,360 » Aye. >> Mr. Miguel. 492 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,840 » Aye. >> Dr. Taylor-Walsh. 493 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,200 » Aye. >> Deputy Mayor Segarra. 494 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,280 » Aye. >> Mayor Forner. 495 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,520 » Aye. >> Thank you. 496 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:09,600 » Moving on to staff and professional comments. Any uh 497 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,360 comments from staff or professionals in attendance this evening? 498 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,600 Can you hear me? Mike good? Everybody good? 499 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Okay, hearing none. Moving on to public comment. 500 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,120 We have a motion to open public comment, please. 501 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,760 » I'll make a motion to open public comment. 502 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,640 » Thank you very much. I will second that. Voice vote, all in favor. 503 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:33,520 » Aye. >> Opposed? Abstentions? Okay, public 504 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,423 comment is now open. Please come forward, state your name and 505 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,443 address for the record. >> [clears throat] 506 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,960 » Here we go. 507 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,960 Mike Goings, 100 Cornell. I know the ordinance has um been tabled, 508 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,320 but uh on the Hanover, what I found interesting, there's been two lawsuits 509 00:33:51,680 --> 00:34:01,800 that I found when I was researching. Hanover did change their zoning codes to 510 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:07,640 allow it. Then, pressure from public, they then canceled it. And what was 511 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:12,960 interesting is the people that are suing them didn't even have any application or 512 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:16,919 anything whatsoever in with zoning. So, but they're still suing them, even 513 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,720 though they don't have that application. But that's why they were getting sued, 514 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:23,320 because they changed it to allow it, then reversed 515 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,560 course to change it that they weren't allowed. 516 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,000 But, that's the only ones that I have found 517 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:35,520 as two in New Jersey, and that's because they changed the zoning to allow it and 518 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,520 then flip-flop. 519 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:39,080 » Thank you. >> Thanks, Mike. 520 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:58,760 » Larry May, 624 Siena Drive. Um 521 00:34:55,720 --> 00:35:06,200 I just have a question that is somewhat related to the tabled ordinance, but uh 522 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:10,960 not really. Uh you may recall a couple of meetings ago I brought up 523 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,600 uh an issue at the time the data center issue was brought up 524 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:19,040 concerning uh 525 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:23,920 the possibilities of either enhancing zoning laws 526 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,920 or uh 527 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:32,720 a resolution from this body 528 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:40,480 uh that would prohibit the purchase of warehouse space 529 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:45,640 uh for use by private prison companies uh for example uh 530 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,240 GEO Group or CoreCivic uh or 531 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:53,520 by the federal government itself 532 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:58,360 uh to be used as private prisons or detention centers. 533 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:03,720 And I understand the zoning laws if I read uh if I read you know what what is 534 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:09,320 in the ordinance uh the current zoning laws it could be 535 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:14,800 considered and this is just an a layman's interpretation 536 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:19,680 uh could be interpreted to prohibit that. 537 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:23,480 Uh in fact, Mr. Mitten was kind enough to offer that up at uh zoning board 538 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,960 meeting. Um so, my question is simply this 539 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,640 uh given that that this ordinance has been 540 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:38,680 tabled, uh is there any 541 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:44,280 Is there any consideration being given on the part of the of the committee 542 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:49,040 to the possibility of generating a resolution, 543 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:55,960 uh which I'm talking, you know, which simply would would, you know, 544 00:36:52,560 --> 00:37:00,440 be the the committee taking a stand and the township taking a stand. 545 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,360 » I'm good. >> That's why we tabled this, because we 546 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,920 want to we want to make sure we got all our ducks in a row, 547 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,360 good and bad, and we want to talk about it before we 548 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,440 we actually put something down as a as a resolution. 549 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,680 » Okay. >> That's why That's why we're not 550 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:25,120 » We're not That's why you're not dealing >> Correct. 551 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,120 » with the the subject of of >> That's why we tabled it. 552 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,280 » Not just data centers, though. >> Yeah, he's talking He's talking 553 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,480 detention >> about a resolution. 554 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,000 » He's talking detention centers. >> Not not not 555 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,680 » I I and I I I'm not sure that a resolution has I mean, a resolution has 556 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,080 no bite at all with regard to that sort of stuff. 557 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:47,160 Um I don't know that we've discussed it. 558 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,360 » We haven't. Um I I 559 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,000 » That's why we're holding off. >> What's that? 560 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,680 » That's why we're holding off. We haven't even discussed it. 561 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,480 » Well, his what he's talking about at all. 562 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,240 » No. We have not. 563 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,080 » He has a question, yeah. >> Yeah, and I I think that was his 564 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:02,440 question. Just is it something we would consider? And I think when you say 565 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,200 resolution, I think what he means is ordinance. I I just think he he he 566 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:08,800 » All right. >> Not necessarily, because a resolution 567 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,760 doesn't really have >> I I understand that. 568 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,080 Right. I understand that. >> I mean, you did you did mention, you 569 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,160 know, a resolution for no other reason than for the township to take a 570 00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:24,640 [clears throat] stand that it doesn't have any teeth. It can't 571 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,760 But but I mean these things are already uh according to Mr. Mitten and you've 572 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,120 been to the zoning and planning board meetings. 573 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,840 It's these things are already prohibited uses. 574 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,760 » Right. Not specifically though. 575 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,400 » Um and I mentioned earlier with regard to tabling this ordinance that 576 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,320 the way zoning ordinances work, it's either 577 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,480 expressly permitted 578 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:49,680 or by default >> strictly prohibited. 579 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:54,280 » Strictly prohibited. >> Yes. By default strictly prohibited. 580 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,120 » it's If it's not mentioned as a permitted use, it's by default a 581 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,080 prohibited use. >> Okay. 582 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,840 » So, in order to do anything, somebody would have to go through the appropriate 583 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,800 board to say, "We want to build a prison 584 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:11,800 here." And I can't see anybody in any board or 585 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,200 anyone in this township saying, "Sure, go ahead." 586 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,800 » Okay. >> You'd have to seek a variance for that 587 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960 use. >> Yeah. 588 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,440 » So, they'd have to go in front of the >> They'd have to go in front of the zoning 589 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,880 board. >> Yeah. And I I'd be I'd be the first to 590 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,200 say that seeking a variance for your fence and seeking a variance for a 591 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,600 prison are entirely different levels. 592 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,880 » Correct. >> Yeah, I don't I There's nothing I I 593 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,680 don't believe there's anything at this point to to be concerned with. 594 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:41,160 But >> I'm sure if you'd like to ask each one 595 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,920 of us individually after the meeting how we felt about 596 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,840 something like that, we'd be more than happy to give you our personal opinion 597 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,960 on that though. >> Okay. 598 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,520 All right. Thank you. >> Yes, sir. 599 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,960 » Okay, seeing no one else come forward, may I have a motion to close public 600 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,360 comment, please? >> a motion to close public comment, Mr. 601 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,400 Mayor. >> I will second that. Voice vote. All in 602 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,920 favor? >> I. 603 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,800 » Opposed? Abstentions? [clears throat] 604 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Okay, moving on to uh committee comments. Anybody have anything this 605 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,640 evening? We'll start at the end. Dr. Taylor Walls, anything? 606 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,800 » Um no, not at this time. Thank you. >> Mr. Conda? 607 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,160 » No, Mr. Mayor. I'm good. Thank you. >> Mr. McGill? 608 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,680 » I am also good. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> All winning. 609 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,240 » No one else has made given comments. >> So, you got everything wide open. 610 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,120 » It's all open. >> It's been a while since we met. I just 611 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:40,200 want to thank everyone that made our America 250 celebration at Wood Park a 612 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:45,440 tremendous success. Uh it was wonderful to see families and 613 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,840 other people from from other towns come together 614 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:53,760 uh to celebrate. Special thanks to Christine Turner, our Cultural Affairs 615 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,720 and Events Committee, Public Works, Police Department, 616 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Fire Department, EMS, and our volunteers, 617 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:04,280 and everyone who worked behind the scenes to make the evening 618 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,560 uh possible. Especially at I really enjoyed that 619 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,680 brass band. I don't know if anybody got an opportunity to see them. I thought it 620 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,600 was great. Yeah, [snorts] it did add something to the event. 621 00:41:12,653 --> 00:41:17,720 » [clears throat and cough] >> Uh and as a committee, we had the 622 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:22,400 pleasure of representing Cinnaminson Township 623 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:25,920 at the Riverton 4th of July parade. It's always a fun tradition, and I I we 624 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,960 have a uh particularly a lot of a lot of fun. 625 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:34,200 Great opportunity to celebrate Independence Day uh alongside one of our 626 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,040 neighboring communities, and to throw candy at young young children. 627 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520 » At? >> Not to? 628 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,760 » Not Well, both. >> At? 629 00:41:38,853 --> 00:41:42,360 » [laughter] >> And sometimes hand the candy to them if 630 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,520 they're young. >> For sure. 631 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,320 » Um uh That concludes um my comment, 632 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,000 Mr. Mayor. >> You forgot to mention uh 633 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,680 Chief Obuchowski spending uh >> 3 hours. 634 00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:00,680 » several hours in the dunk tank. >> We all spent time [laughter] 635 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,920 » I know I spent some time in the dunk tank. 636 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,000 » It was refreshing. 4th of July was very warm. 637 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:10,280 » Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, it was good. >> Well said. I have nothing else to add to 638 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:16,040 that. So, uh we will be going into executive 639 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:21,360 session. Um, so resolution 2026-85 authorizing executive session for 640 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:28,160 attorney-client matters regarding uh, potential litigation and personnel. 641 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:32,160 Um, do we expect to take any action coming out of that meeting? 642 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,080 » No, no action. >> Okay. 643 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:38,120 » 20 [snorts] to 30 minutes. >> Okay. So about 20 to 30 minutes. May I 644 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000 have a motion to go into executive session, please? 645 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,600 » I'll make >> a motion to go into executive session. 646 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,000 » Thank you very much. May I have a second? 647 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,200 » I'll second. >> Okay, voice vote. All in favor? 648 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:54,200 » Aye. >> Opposed? Abstentions? 649 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:58,800 Okay. We will be uh, going into executive session. We will be out in 650 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:04,520 about 20 to 30 minutes. We do not expect any action coming out of executive 651 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,520 session.