[0:00] Chair. It’s 9
[11:53] o’clock.
[12:01] >> Goodmorning has everyone
[12:04] this morning. If you are
[12:05] willing and able please rise
[12:06] for the invocation and the
[12:07] Pledge of Allegiance. Father
[12:15] in heaven. We thank you for
[12:16] the stay that you have blessed
[12:17] us with. Thank you for those
[12:17] that have come.
[12:20] >> Here today, Lord to take
[12:21] part and local government. I
[12:22] pray that you give us all the
[12:25] ability to reason have
[12:27] discernment be kind gracious
[12:31] one another. We ask for you to
[12:32] walk with us throughout the
[12:34] stay in Jesus name.
[12:39] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[12:40] flag of the United States of
[12:42] America and to the Republic
[12:43] for which it stands. One
[12:45] nation under God, indivisible,
[12:48] with liberty and justice for
[12:49] all. Thank you. You may be
[12:52] seated. Madam Clerk.
[12:59] >> This is a special meeting
[12:59] of Citrus County Board of
[13:01] County commissioners on the
[13:02] 17th day of August 2026. and
[13:05] attendance. Our chair Diana
[13:07] Finnegan first Vice Chair
[13:08] Janet Eric Second Vice Chair
[13:11] Hart Commissioner Rebecca
[13:13] Bay’s Commissioner Holly
[13:14] Davis, County Administrator
[13:16] Steve Howard and county
[13:17] attorney to nice a dime
[13:18] inland. Thank you very much.
[13:21] >> Madam Attorney, just turn
[13:22] this over to you. Thank you.
[13:25] Madam Chair, one second,
[13:26] please.
[13:35] >> Sorry, I have to sign into
[13:35] my computer because it’s gone
[13:36] to sleep. Okay.
[14:00] >> So good morning
[14:01] commissioners. We are here
[14:01] today for a special meeting.
[14:05] The requested action is to
[14:07] seek approval to initiate
[14:08] litigation against Sic Lecanto
[14:12] Sand LLC. We’re looking for a
[14:13] motion and a vote to direct
[14:14] staff to initiate that
[14:15] litigation against Qantas and
[14:18] also, although it’s not
[14:20] printed, were also seeking
[14:20] that you authorize the
[14:21] chairman to sign any documents
[14:22] that might be necessary. As we
[14:27] institute that litigation. So
[14:28] we’re here this morning as a
[14:30] follow-up to your 11 August
[14:32] 11th meeting during which the
[14:33] board directed us to stop what
[14:36] is believed to be on permitted
[14:37] activity out at. can’t just
[14:42] stands parcels during the sand
[14:44] land application hearing the
[14:46] board received evidence and
[14:47] testimony relating to ongoing
[14:49] mining operations on a portion
[14:51] of their property. And then
[14:53] you also heard testimony and
[14:54] evidence that there’s ongoing
[14:57] debris falling in disposal on
[14:59] one of their other parcels.
[15:00] The Henley parcel that they
[15:03] recently both all properties
[15:07] currently have pending code
[15:07] violation cases. And as the
[15:11] board is aware, the board has
[15:13] delegated your code.
[15:14] Compliance matters to a
[15:15] special master. Those
[15:16] processes are in place
[15:20] continuing through those
[15:23] processes to and fruition.
[15:24] With the special master
[15:25] hearing. But because of the
[15:29] exigent circumstances with the
[15:32] continued, what what is
[15:32] believed to be continued
[15:33] mining and debris disposal. We
[15:36] believe that’s why the board
[15:37] came to the conclusion that
[15:37] you wanted to seek the
[15:38] injunction. Your decision. And
[15:43] despite the cease and desist
[15:44] notices that have been issued
[15:45] through the code cases, we’ve
[15:47] learned that the applicant
[15:48] intends to continue
[15:48] operations. We receive. We
[15:52] scheduled this meeting to
[15:54] receive direct direction from
[15:56] you and approval to file
[15:58] injunction. And although we
[15:59] are just beginning to develop
[16:00] the case because it’s been
[16:01] very quick, we wanted to share
[16:03] some important things with
[16:04] you. So.
[16:19] So although you might
[16:21] not be able to see it because
[16:21] it is small, this is the first
[16:23] code compliance notice of
[16:25] violation and clearly they say
[16:28] it says that they’re to cease
[16:29] all activities and provide
[16:30] documentation and down here
[16:33] too. Evidence establishing the
[16:40] property has been in
[16:42] continuous use for mining
[16:43] activity since November of
[16:45] 2008. The second code
[16:50] compliance case has similar
[16:51] language in this is on the
[16:52] Henley property, which is
[16:52] that?
[16:55] >> Can you put a mike Sorry? I
[17:00] apologize. Think This is the
[17:01] second notice of violation
[17:02] that was issued and this is
[17:02] for the Henry property, which
[17:05] is next door to the original
[17:07] property. And it clearly says
[17:09] cease-and-desist on mining
[17:10] activities and also cease any
[17:11] debris. Acceptance. Madam
[17:16] Attorney. Just want to clarify
[17:21] But that’s the September 4th
[17:23] 2026. Bicep I think they have
[17:31] provide evidence before
[17:31] September 24th. That’s the
[17:32] new. Activity. That’s the new
[17:36] activity on Henley property.
[17:37] So in other words, once there
[17:40] cited, they have a period of
[17:41] time to correct it right.
[17:46] September 4th hasn’t happened
[17:46] yet. Yes, ma’am. Okay. While
[17:51] you are pursuing code
[17:53] compliance cases, you can also
[17:55] concurrently pursue actions in
[17:57] circuit court. So you don’t
[17:59] have to wait for those code.
[18:01] Compliance matters to come to
[18:02] fruition. With it. You can
[18:06] stop This now code compliance
[18:10] is a much different process
[18:11] than what we when we go to
[18:12] court. So I just brought up
[18:13] this just a from your eyes,
[18:16] you with, again, with the
[18:18] properties, the properties
[18:19] marked. To one 82 BN 3.30.
[18:25] Those are the Henley
[18:27] properties. The other
[18:29] properties are the sand land
[18:31] properties where it’s alleged
[18:31] that they’re continuing
[18:32] operations. What’s interesting
[18:36] about this aerial is this is a
[18:37] current aerial. I just took
[18:38] this picture this morning and
[18:39] added it and you can see that
[18:43] on 0, 0, 0, 3, 4, 0, It
[18:48] doesn’t look like there’s any
[18:49] mining activity. And that’s
[18:51] because the property
[18:52] appraiser’s aerials are taken
[18:53] as of, you know, that prior in time. If you look on
[18:57] your your phone is your Google
[19:01] Earth or any of those you’ll
[19:02] see the activity that’s going
[19:03] on there. Now. Now, this is a
[19:05] video. That was shared to our
[19:09] staff from Mister Corolla. And
[19:13] it depicts aerials from 2010.
[19:19] 2013, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021
[19:22] 2023. And if you could push
[19:24] play.
[19:38] So it seems pretty clear
[19:43] from these aerials that there
[19:44] had previously been mining.
[19:47] But from looking at those, it
[19:49] looks as though there’s there
[19:50] was not any mining from at
[19:52] least 2019 through 2023. and
[19:54] where in 2026. And then
[19:57] finally.
[20:05] >> And one of the owners of
[20:07] Florida filtered. If you
[20:08] haven’t seen much of us to
[20:10] this point, we’ve been mostly
[20:12] just hosting what we have for
[20:13] sale and too little promotions
[20:14] here. And there. We have been
[20:19] under attack recently from
[20:21] officials there trying to shut
[20:22] us down there. A lot of people
[20:24] in Citrus County. Against us
[20:27] and it’s not about growth.
[20:30] This is a very personal
[20:30] attack. But we are still open.
[20:34] We are still operating. We’re
[20:39] not the big Very small
[20:39] business veteran knowns and
[20:41] unknowns. And we Citrus
[20:43] County. So we’re here to
[20:44] support smart growth. With
[20:47] their support housing for
[20:48] hurricane evacuation route.
[20:50] That’s what we do. So we
[20:54] really appreciate your support
[20:56] and just know we are open. We
[20:57] are continuing to fight this
[20:58] ands. We haven’t been loud up
[21:01] until this point. We want you
[21:04] to know our side and we want
[21:05] you to know that we are still
[21:10] here. We are still operating
[21:11] and we really, really
[21:11] appreciate your support. Thank
[21:14] you so much for watching. Give
[21:16] us a call. Let us know if you
[21:17] need anything. But again,
[21:18] we’re celebrating. We’re still
[21:22] here. The punches keep coming
[21:25] But we’re and ready to fight
[21:26] back. Thank you so much. And
[21:27] we’ll see you all soon.
[21:31] >> That video was posted on
[21:32] Friday. August 14th. So it
[21:35] appears clear from from the
[21:36] video and from things we’re
[21:39] hearing in the community that
[21:40] they do continue to operate
[21:41] out there. And so the board
[21:42] has a choice. The board can
[21:46] either seek the injunctive
[21:46] relief from the court or can
[21:48] let the code compliance
[21:49] process play out, which, as
[21:53] you know, won’t happen at
[21:54] least until September. The
[21:54] date on that. so we’re here
[21:58] today seeking direction from
[21:59] the board on how you want us
[22:00] to proceed on this case.
[22:08] >> Any questions prepared to
[22:10] make a motion. All I’d like to
[22:13] open it to the public before
[22:13] we visually comes after we
[22:14] have motion a second. make a
[22:21] motion the we direct the
[22:25] county
[22:25] >> To initiate litigation
[22:26] against a Qantas and LLC to
[22:29] enjoin continued unpermitted
[22:33] activity.
[22:33] >> And to direct a chair or
[22:34] authorize the chair to sign
[22:37] all necessary documents.
[22:37] Second.
[22:41] >> Okay. There’s a motion by
[22:42] commissioner Canard and a
[22:42] second by Commissioner Davis.
[22:46] You know, it’s your time to
[22:47] speak from the public. You’ll
[22:48] have 3 minutes at the podium.
[22:51] Please fill out a green card
[22:51] located on that table. If are
[22:56] requesting 5 minutes
[22:56] representing a group, please
[22:57] let the clerk know that you
[23:00] have a letter and file have a
[23:02] look at her. Her words gold.
[23:03] If you have a letter, let us
[23:05] know in commissioner Canard
[23:06] will give you 5 minutes.
[23:07] Please keep your comments.
[23:10] Respectful, direct all
[23:10] comments to meet the chair and
[23:13] state your name and where you
[23:15] live. For the record. Welcome.
[23:17] Good morning. PJ off, hammer,
[23:17] Citrus County. This is going
[23:18] to be very quick. I was
[23:20] heading to AM county library
[23:23] meeting on Friday. And I came
[23:27] assess a trail just because I
[23:28] like to see what’s happening
[23:29] in areas and was passed by no
[23:30] fewer than 3 loaded trucks
[23:34] with sand. And when I came to
[23:37] Hoskins, there was still kind
[23:37] of, you know, near from coming
[23:39] down the sand road, which
[23:42] leads me to believe that yes,
[23:43] indeed, they are still very
[23:44] much in business. And I just
[23:46] thought you might like to know
[23:47] that. Thank you. Thank you.
[23:49] Next speaker, please.
[24:06] >> Good Morning Commission.
[24:07] Madam Chair Commissioners,
[24:08] County attorney’s Office
[24:10] County Administrator County
[24:12] staff. My name is Kyle Van and
[24:14] attorney with Bend
[24:15] representing Lecanto sand. And
[24:18] I just wanted to speak a
[24:19] little bit to try and maybe
[24:22] clarify some of the issues
[24:24] this matter to hopefully try
[24:26] and avoid some kind of
[24:27] litigation and adverse
[24:28] relationship. I have a have a
[24:31] short presentation. I’m not
[24:33] sure limited to the 5 minutes,
[24:34] you know, as this is directed
[24:36] against my client. But you
[24:41] know, as you’ve seen the the
[24:51] property is being mind. But I
[24:52] think it’s. A little unclear
[24:56] about what exactly the scope
[24:57] of that mining is. And I just
[25:01] wanted to to reference a few
[25:02] things. Is there a computer
[25:04] that I can plug into
[25:05] presentation to?
[25:09] >> I believe there’s not. You
[25:10] only have 2 minutes left. So
[25:13] okay.
[25:14] >> So just to address the code
[25:15] enforcement issue. They’re
[25:18] there was a notice of
[25:18] violation issued. code
[25:23] enforcement actions are
[25:23] governed by chapter one. 62 of
[25:24] the Florida statutes that
[25:27] requires before code
[25:28] enforcement citation can
[25:29] actually be issued, that there
[25:31] has to be a notice of
[25:32] violation and then a
[25:34] reasonable amount of time for
[25:37] the person being potentially
[25:39] sighted to correct the
[25:40] violations. So that’s why you
[25:40] have a notice of violation
[25:44] saying seesaw work by
[25:46] September 4th or else you can
[25:48] have a code enforcement action
[25:49] or your injunction action. So.
[25:52] They’re still there is still
[25:52] mining on the property. And I
[25:55] think at the hearing on last
[25:59] Tuesday there was some
[26:01] confusion about the code
[26:03] enforcement Action code
[26:05] compliance issues and the
[26:06] rezoning and comprehensive
[26:09] plan amendment. So the
[26:11] northern essentially half of
[26:12] the property is already zoned
[26:13] for mining. It’s already got a
[26:16] future land use of extractive
[26:18] so mining can be done on those
[26:20] properties as well as the
[26:20] Henley properties on that. The
[26:22] western side going north. All
[26:24] that would be needed to do
[26:26] that is a mining permit. So my
[26:29] clients have applied for a
[26:30] mining permit to do that. I
[26:33] think there were discussions
[26:33] between my client and county
[26:36] staff prior to purchase it
[26:38] prior to purchasing the
[26:38] property. And after. Basically
[26:42] where where staff could too.
[26:45] My understanding is that she
[26:46] indicated that there was
[26:47] historical mining operations
[26:48] on the property. There was a
[26:51] non-conforming use. took that
[26:56] as okay. We don’t need a
[26:58] permit and that’s why they
[26:59] started mining. So I think
[27:00] there was maybe I’m
[27:00] misunderstanding there.
[27:03] Obviously a mining permit is
[27:04] required. They have applied
[27:04] for that. And my clients here
[27:13] as well. Thank you. Thank you.
[27:15] >> Next speaker, please. Good
[27:29] morning. warning may need to
[27:29] move that Mike I’m just going
[27:35] to read Kuz so.
[27:38] >> here because I want to
[27:39] share my concerns. Trucks are
[27:40] still coming in and out of the
[27:42] old Henley property. I was
[27:42] under the impression they were
[27:43] told to stop operating. My
[27:46] other concern is access to
[27:48] look into sand through the old
[27:49] Henley site. I have photos of
[27:50] Genoa can’t share on my phone
[27:54] that I took from the road of
[27:54] them moving sand on la Qantas
[27:55] and site. I don’t know what it
[28:01] is for, but this proves that
[28:02] they can access the Qantas and
[28:03] by way of the old Kenley site,
[28:06] he also closed the entrance to
[28:07] a Qantas. And so you with a
[28:08] berm. Could have been to close
[28:12] up shop or to hide what’s
[28:12] really going on there. We
[28:14] can’t see it and I don’t trust
[28:16] it. Neither should you. I
[28:18] mean, the bottom line is they
[28:20] are operating without a
[28:22] permanent. They have admitted
[28:24] to it and they have said
[28:24] they’re going to keep doing
[28:25] it. They don’t care what you
[28:26] guys say. So I’m just asking
[28:28] you to do what’s right. Thank
[28:30] you for coming.
[28:32] >> Oh, man. Madam Clerk, did
[28:34] you get her name? Megan Horak,
[28:39] thank you. Next speaker.
[28:41] Please.
[28:50] >> Good morning. Good morning,
[28:51] ladies and gentlemen. My name
[28:52] is Thomas Nunzio. I’ve been
[28:55] living in this neighborhood
[28:56] for over 35 years. Everytime
[28:59] somebody new comes in. They.
[29:02] I’ve been through this round
[29:03] and round and round with the
[29:04] sand mines. Nobody wants to do
[29:05] the right thing. I have
[29:09] pictures on my phone. I have
[29:11] video of yesterday day before
[29:13] the day before that. But
[29:16] trucks on the road, they they
[29:18] pull out of the mine. And then
[29:21] they clean their tailgates off
[29:22] on the road. They stop on the
[29:24] road. We share. You have to go
[29:27] around these trucks. Just to
[29:30] get by. There’s a truck coming
[29:31] the other way. You have to
[29:33] wait. I mean, it’s just
[29:35] ridiculous. They should be
[29:35] doing that in the mine where
[29:36] it doesn’t put all debris in
[29:37] the road because it is a
[29:39] shared wrote apparently they
[29:42] don’t care. I got I got video
[29:43] of debris coming in. I the
[29:47] trucks that are there. There’s
[29:47] got to be. 10 trucks. Many
[29:50] will wish I had my own truck
[29:52] almost 30 years. And I know
[29:56] just about every one of those
[29:56] many Willis, they’re all from
[29:57] Tampa. Half of them don’t
[29:59] speak English. They don’t care
[30:03] about stop signs. They don’t
[30:06] care if your granddaughter or
[30:07] grandson is riding a horse
[30:08] around the neighborhood, they
[30:08] don’t care. They just
[30:12] oblivious to everybody who
[30:14] lives. Specter. It’s their
[30:16] business. They’re going to do
[30:16] what they’re going to do and to tell you the truth,
[30:19] we’re really getting tired of.
[30:23] These guys. They put up stop
[30:25] signs by were Hoskins is and
[30:26] they have to make a right on
[30:28] cooler. They put 3 stop signs
[30:29] up to its a 3 way. Stop. But I
[30:34] swear I can sit there all day
[30:34] long and I can bet you my
[30:38] paycheck that none of them
[30:38] will stop that. Those stop
[30:39] signs they just run them and
[30:42] go and they’re stopped in the
[30:43] road. Both sides sometimes
[30:44] talking to each other. They
[30:46] won’t move. It’s just
[30:48] ridiculous. It’s it’s if it’s
[30:49] a share growth, they ought to
[30:49] have a little consideration.
[30:52] And they have not stopped
[30:53] mining. They’re still mining
[30:54] without a permit. I just want
[30:58] to let you all know that.
[30:58] That’s what’s going on back
[31:01] there. So it’s just getting
[31:02] way out of hand and the girls
[31:06] that live next door to me,
[31:07] they were riding their horses.
[31:07] They got run off the road by
[31:10] many Willard. It was coming up
[31:11] the road, you know, week we’ve
[31:13] used these roads for years to
[31:14] ride our horses enjoyed life.
[31:17] And they should have to go
[31:18] through that. Their young
[31:21] girls there, they just want to
[31:22] ride their horses you know,
[31:24] the traffic that’s in there is
[31:27] unbelievable. The many willer
[31:29] after many with tractor
[31:30] trailer. She just ridiculous.
[31:32] Just wish that That’s
[31:35] something which saw Ort.
[31:37] Somebody would just be a
[31:40] better neighbor. You know, it
[31:40] just seems to me like nobody
[31:41] gives a c***. Tell you the
[31:44] truth. It’s getting pretty
[31:45] tired of it. Show. Thank Just
[31:48] want to let you know what was
[31:49] happening. I do have proof do
[31:51] if you
[31:53] >> Thank you for comments
[31:53] next. Speaker.
[32:08] >> Good morning. Commissioners
[32:09] Chris Croll owner and Qantas
[32:09] and mind. Thank you for
[32:12] putting this together.
[32:16] Honestly, if I was in your
[32:16] position looking in, I
[32:17] completely understand how this
[32:17] would look. What I would say
[32:21] is that we would like to have
[32:23] the time to present to you.
[32:23] Our evidence of working with
[32:25] staff about the plan that was
[32:27] in place for all of this. I
[32:29] know we don’t have much time
[32:32] right now, but we are we have
[32:33] put everything together. We
[32:33] look forward to presenting it
[32:36] buyer due date, which was
[32:37] presented by the violation.
[32:39] And that’s all I want to say.
[32:39] Thank you very much. Thank
[32:40] you.
[32:43] >> Next, speaker. Are you
[32:51] coming up, Mister, a
[33:04] >> commissioner Finnegan
[33:04] Commissioner Davis, thank you
[33:05] for meeting with myself and
[33:06] some residents last weekend. I
[33:08] look forward to our meeting
[33:08] with Mister Steve Howard
[33:10] tomorrow. Commissioner Davis
[33:12] during our meeting, you told
[33:14] us I’m paraphrasing, that has
[33:16] direct comments to make for at
[33:19] leadership. And I asked you
[33:19] how how we can a can. Restore
[33:23] trust. I want to talk about
[33:25] why residents are losing
[33:25] confidence in some of our
[33:27] board. I don’t want to
[33:29] distrust my commissioners,
[33:30] quite frankly, a rather
[33:30] believe that you have our
[33:32] backs that you’re watching out
[33:34] for us. I want to believe that
[33:34] when a developer comes the it
[33:38] has to do it. I just your
[33:39] time. commissioner Davis says
[33:42] Commissioner Davis, speaking
[33:43] of doctor, Titus, General,
[33:45] Open to the public or is it
[33:46] supposed to be only about the
[33:47] motion on the floor that
[33:48] motion on the floor? Is this
[33:48] about the same line?
[33:52] >> Part of it to sustain name
[33:53] for the record, sorry. erase
[33:56] it just brings okay. So I want
[34:01] to believe that when a
[34:02] developer comes before with a
[34:03] massive proposal, you first
[34:04] question is is a project right
[34:04] for Citrus County. But Pine
[34:07] Ridge has made it difficult.
[34:08] The sand mines made it
[34:09] difficult county reporting 90
[34:09] or 91 made it difficult.
[34:13] That’s farm has made it
[34:13] difficult. What about the data
[34:14] center portagers for others?
[34:16] So I want to ask a very simple
[34:17] question who comes first in
[34:18] this county, the developers of
[34:20] the community, because based
[34:21] on what I’ve seen, I’m
[34:22] concerned that too often the
[34:23] answer appears to be the
[34:23] developer. Let me be clear.
[34:25] I’m not against development.
[34:29] I’m I’ve said that publicly
[34:29] and not anti-growth. And I
[34:30] don’t expect Citrus County to
[34:32] stop growing. I understand all
[34:34] of that. But I also believe
[34:35] the people who already live
[34:35] here have rights, one of the
[34:39] right says to expect
[34:40] development to happen.
[34:40] According to the rules, this
[34:41] county adopted to protect our
[34:43] communities. That’s really
[34:44] what this is about. Do we have
[34:46] a local government? We can
[34:47] trust to follow, protect and
[34:48] enforce its own rules. Who is
[34:50] protecting our land when it
[34:51] came to the sand. Mine who is
[34:53] making sure the permitting
[34:54] requirements and rules are
[34:56] being followed. What about
[34:58] Tuscany Ranch? Residents had
[35:00] questions about the request,
[35:01] particularly after
[35:01] Commissioner Basil counting
[35:03] Rent County Road 4.91. and
[35:05] that 3 million dollar state
[35:07] funding request. Those events
[35:08] matter because trust is
[35:10] cumulative. And then we come
[35:11] to Pine Ridge. The same 3
[35:13] commissioners voted to approve
[35:14] Pine Ridge application as the
[35:16] court is no question that
[35:17] approval. And the reason is
[35:19] not insignificant. The judge
[35:21] found that the board failed to
[35:21] observe the essential
[35:22] requirements of law. That’s
[35:24] not a technical issue. That’s
[35:25] a fundamental problem. I keep
[35:26] coming back to one question.
[35:28] Why did residents and pirates
[35:30] have to take their own
[35:30] government to court to get
[35:31] this question answered? Think
[35:33] about that. Residents had to
[35:34] spend time and money
[35:36] challenging a decision made by
[35:36] the government. They elected
[35:39] to present How can that not
[35:40] affect our confidence? Because
[35:41] people are watching. We’re
[35:44] asking questions requesting
[35:44] public records were paying
[35:45] attention to vote. And we’re
[35:47] comparing what we’re being
[35:48] told with what we’re seeing
[35:49] and we’re speaking out. And
[35:51] then Pine Ridge comes along.
[35:54] We are told rules matter.
[35:55] We’re told facts matter. We’re
[35:58] told the Comp Plan Matters.
[35:58] Land Development, Code matter.
[36:00] Zoning matters. So when
[36:01] residency one controversial
[36:02] project after another, and
[36:04] then a court finds that some
[36:06] of the board failed to observe
[36:07] the essential role
[36:07] requirements of law. People
[36:10] are naturally going to start
[36:10] connecting the dots. Truth
[36:13] isn’t necessarily lost because
[36:14] of one isolated incident.
[36:17] Trust is lost and people are
[36:17] being seeing a pattern. So I’m
[36:20] asking you to make us believe
[36:21] that you are putting Citrus
[36:23] County first. That’s what
[36:24] we’re asking for. Thank you.
[36:26] for your comments
[36:28] next speaker. Please. Anyone
[36:33] else would like to come up and
[36:34] speak before the board on the
[36:38] A close open to the public.
[36:41] Board. Any further comments.
[36:42] Commissioner Barrick. Friday,
[36:46] I was going from one meeting
[36:47] down assess and I had to take
[36:47] 4.90.
[36:52] >> And there were sand mine
[36:53] dump trucks coming out onto
[36:55] 4.90, not one, not 2. And yes,
[36:58] it was disruptive of the
[36:58] traffic. And I was upset
[37:00] because at our meeting we were
[37:04] told they were not mining. And
[37:08] to me, I was president just
[37:09] Spring Civic Association and
[37:12] we have deed restrictions and
[37:13] we send out letters to our
[37:14] attorney and what it should
[37:15] cease and desist. It meant
[37:18] seasoned ISIS from that day
[37:20] until you got it fixed. Not
[37:23] continue until whatever date
[37:26] you feel like it or whatever
[37:27] date you go back to court. So
[37:29] when I see this come across
[37:30] our desk again. I say we need
[37:35] to approve the attorney to do
[37:36] what you need to do and have
[37:39] chair sign whatever papers are
[37:40] needed because
[37:43] >> when we say ceased and
[37:45] desist, it means top right
[37:48] now, not tomorrow or not. 6
[37:48] weeks from now. Thank you.
[37:51] >> They want I have a couple
[37:57] questions just one speaker had
[38:02] talked about legality of
[38:03] following the correct
[38:05] processes and this commission
[38:08] can register before we have to
[38:10] stop engaging in lawsuits.
[38:11] What? I get there’s a time
[38:17] difference of a couple of
[38:17] weeks rates timber. 4th. I see
[38:18] on this last paper. If they
[38:22] follow that process, it goes
[38:24] to the magistrate and then
[38:26] there would be an order given
[38:27] if we do this process with
[38:30] that, the you handling it with
[38:33] that? The U.S. hiring outside
[38:34] counsel what’s the cost to the
[38:37] taxpayers? In either
[38:42] direction? And obviously it
[38:42] would have to be an
[38:43] approximate cost. I know I
[38:43] would not hold to you ever to
[38:45] a dollar amount. I just want
[38:47] to know how lengthy is the
[38:50] process both ways. So we could
[38:51] say if. If the border
[38:55] ex-Michigan I signed this
[38:57] today, what does that do
[38:59] differently and what’s the
[39:01] cost of that? Then if we go
[39:05] code enforcement, think that
[39:05] much time are we saving? You
[39:07] understand I’m saying? First
[39:10] of all, we were going to
[39:11] handle it within my office. I
[39:12] think you all know I’m having
[39:13] some health issues, but
[39:15] together Valen I can.
[39:18] >> Can get that done. So we
[39:19] weren’t going to engage
[39:20] outside counsel for this. The
[39:22] county has a history of
[39:24] pursuing some of these types
[39:25] of actions in the past that
[39:27] I’ve seen. it’s not unusual,
[39:32] at least for the county to to
[39:33] seek these types of actions
[39:35] when it’s something, you
[39:40] Important say some might think
[39:41] egregious but also important
[39:44] so we can handle that. The
[39:46] costs involved would just be
[39:46] the filing fees and meal if we
[39:50] have to court reporters if we
[39:56] have to do any kind of
[39:56] investigative things, there
[39:57] might be some some cost, but
[39:58] the cost will be minimal
[40:00] because we are keeping it in
[40:01] house as far as timeline. It’s
[40:05] hard to say how quickly we’re
[40:07] going to be able to get to
[40:09] court. I would say 6 months to
[40:13] get some initial reaction from
[40:16] the court. I’m not going say
[40:17] that it’s going to be final
[40:18] within 6 months, but hopefully
[40:18] we can get a hearing on our request for temporary
[40:23] relief. We be asking for
[40:24] temporary and permanent
[40:26] relief. So hopefully on the
[40:28] temporary it could be
[40:31] relatively short. But I can’t
[40:32] stress the the weight
[40:36] difference between an order
[40:36] from the court and an order
[40:37] from the special master. There
[40:41] is a certain finality and
[40:43] importance and weight given to
[40:44] a circuit court a county court
[40:47] decisions. So I think What we
[40:52] find with our code compliance
[40:53] cases is sometimes we see them
[40:58] order entered and then it
[40:58] becomes back and that comes
[41:00] back. It. It’s not as final as a court decisions. So I in
[41:08] quite interim, I question I
[41:08] understand that one.
[41:10] >> It is more powerful than
[41:11] the other. But one is
[41:15] September 4th. The other way
[41:16] you’re seeing 6 months. I’m I
[41:21] don’t want to I don’t want to
[41:21] give you false expectations
[41:23] and say it’s going to you
[41:24] know, a month or 2 months.
[41:26] It’s a soon as we can get on
[41:26] the court’s calendar.
[41:27] >> Hopefully. The respondent
[41:32] will cease operations,
[41:33] especially after today and
[41:34] especially if you direct us to
[41:35] file the suit because when it
[41:39] comes to court, the judge
[41:39] probably won’t look favorably
[41:43] upon them continuing
[41:43] operations after it’s been.
[41:45] mean, there was ample evidence
[41:46] that you’re hearing that they
[41:47] shouldn’t be mining and the
[41:52] September 4th date, I would
[41:55] point out is on this second
[41:56] partial the Henley, partial
[41:58] the other date was June 27th.
[42:00] I say. And so if perhaps if
[42:04] you want to wait on the
[42:06] vegetative debris and the
[42:07] property from coming in from
[42:08] the Henley property, if you
[42:12] want to wait til September,
[42:12] you can do that. But the
[42:14] deadline for this other has
[42:14] already passed. I say.
[42:19] >> And so that deadline
[42:20] passed, it went to the
[42:21] magistrate.
[42:24] >> know, their their
[42:24] opportunity to cure past. It
[42:27] says when does that case go to
[42:30] the magistrate?
[42:30] >> Wednesday to to stay. If
[42:32] you’re going mass J C
[42:34] Charlton, our director. Mr.
[42:40] Charlton, we often don’t get
[42:41] to see you at these. Nice to
[42:42] see this morning.
[42:45] >> Good morning or good
[42:46] morning, Jace.
[42:52] >> Our next hour here. And for
[42:53] those cases be October, 21st.
[42:59] And we’re going to the other
[43:00] if the other ones go to that
[43:02] hearing is will it also be
[43:03] October 21st as well? We’re
[43:03] going to have them all
[43:04] together. Thank you. Any more
[43:06] questions.
[43:12] >> Yes, Commissioner Kerik has
[43:13] a question patients to
[43:14] magistrate this week. Is it
[43:15] possible to get the one from?
[43:18] June moved up to this week’s?
[43:19] No, ma’am, OK, thank you.
[43:23] Thank you. Anyone
[43:24] else for Mr. I would hate to
[43:35] spend a lot of tax, my
[43:36] question just I don’t want to
[43:37] spend a lot of taxpayer money
[43:39] if the result is going to be
[43:41] the same around the same time.
[43:41] Does that make sense?
[43:44] >> But you’re saying that
[43:45] we’re not going to spend you
[43:47] don’t see us spending a lot of
[43:49] extra money for the result of
[43:50] maybe coming at the same time.
[43:55] I don’t see you spending a lot
[43:56] as you turn I said you, you
[43:58] May. You’re gonna have a
[43:59] filing fee I’m sorry that I
[44:02] don’t know what those are
[44:02] these days. Maybe my assistant
[44:05] might come rushing up to tell
[44:11] me.
[44:12] >> we all know how much,
[44:13] Sally, flick.
[44:17] >> Ali, remember, this was
[44:18] Denise that right up here and
[44:19] that may have to go the she’s
[44:20] gonna was pretty okay. 400,
[44:25] $400 for filing fee. And then
[44:26] if there are any depositions,
[44:29] court reporter, fees.
[44:32] Ministerial Fi service fees.
[44:35] You know, $40 here. I mean,
[44:36] it’s not going to be. It’s not
[44:39] like when we hire outside
[44:40] counsel. Okay.
[44:45] >> Thank you or to any other
[44:45] comments or questions.
[44:50] >> All those in favor signify
[44:51] by saying Aye, aye, any
[44:54] opposed motion carries 5, All
[44:56] right. With that, this
[44:56] meeting’s adjourned.
[45:10] I’m
[45:10] sorry. It’s on the agenda.
[45:20] After the motion, there’s a
[45:22] separate open to the public
[45:22] after the
[45:27] >> Microphone meeting back in
[45:29] session.
[45:31] >> My apologies and thank you
[45:31] for that because I did open to
[45:32] the public just for the item
[45:36] and you would like to speak
[45:36] about whatever you’d like to
[45:37] speak about.
[45:37] >> Come on open to the public
[45:40] is now. Please forgive me.
[45:57] >> Good morning. Commissioners
[45:58] polled already 30 41 West
[45:59] thing be street. You many
[45:59] times before here. I’m
[46:02] speaking on something today.
[46:04] Not about what you have on
[46:04] your agenda directly. Citrus
[46:09] County benefit from an AI data
[46:09] center. As controversial as an
[46:14] AI data center seems to be. I
[46:16] believe that one and only one
[46:18] reasonable site exists in this
[46:19] county. By examining what all
[46:23] parties want. The finding a
[46:25] solution that gets us there
[46:25] without undue hysteria. The
[46:28] county can satisfy all but the
[46:29] most polarized elements. What
[46:32] the people want. From numerous
[46:37] comments at public meetings.
[46:37] The great majority of the
[46:40] people want any AI center to
[46:40] be far away from them.
[46:45] Complaints of noise light.
[46:46] Does vibration unsightly mess
[46:49] and proximity to an AI
[46:50] disappear with distance?
[46:54] Perceptions of future
[46:54] expansion and its attendant
[46:56] anxiety decreases well with
[46:57] distance. What the purveyors I
[47:00] want. Obviously great
[47:05] long-term profits can be had
[47:06] by those who own slash
[47:07] control. I center. These
[47:12] entity seemed to feel the time
[47:12] is of the essence, do it now
[47:13] before the bubble bursts. The
[47:18] current nature of AI is huge.
[47:21] Computational slash collating
[47:23] power, coupled with the
[47:23] seeming sorcery of algorithms.
[47:28] The strain this imposes on
[47:28] resources like electric power
[47:31] generation, excessive heat
[47:32] production requiring cooling
[47:34] and vast land areas to
[47:35] accommodate equipment and
[47:37] buildings are prohibitive. In
[47:38] most cases. Some projects come
[47:43] with NBA’s that leave the
[47:44] public. it ease? This is a
[47:46] hard sell. What the county
[47:49] needs to do. Find a balance
[47:56] that quiets disagreement
[47:56] between the parties that is
[47:57] also beneficial to the entire
[47:57] county. Proposal. Place all AI
[48:03] development in the northwest
[48:05] corner of the county on or
[48:06] near the Duke Energy complex.
[48:10] From the standpoint of
[48:12] distance to populated areas
[48:13] and availability of required
[48:14] resources for AI data centers.
[48:16] There is no better location.
[48:19] The existing usage of the area
[48:21] has created an industrial
[48:23] complex in an environmentally
[48:25] sensitive region for over 50
[48:27] years with no great
[48:28] dislocation to the county. The
[48:31] Heat Island already exist. The
[48:35] noise light, does that already
[48:37] exist. The copious power and
[48:39] water availability already
[48:40] exist. Little of consequence
[48:45] remains except negotiations
[48:47] between the involved parties
[48:48] slash factions on terms of
[48:49] usage. The current generating
[48:53] capacity as measured and you
[48:53] go out. May I continue? OK?
[48:58] Thank you. Thank you.
[49:02] >> Next speaker, please.
[49:12] >> We needed morning board. My
[49:13] name is John. Every than in
[49:15] France. And I was here before
[49:17] you last week regarding an
[49:19] incident of a death threat
[49:20] being reported to the
[49:22] sheriff’s office. Since that
[49:24] time, the Chronicle has run a
[49:26] sort of a clarification buried
[49:27] in the local section that you
[49:30] have to go online to find what
[49:32] the issue is. And it’s out in
[49:33] the 16th paragraph. So it’s
[49:34] not really an apology and
[49:36] hardly anybody will notice it.
[49:38] But what happened was a
[49:42] citizen of Citrus County who’s
[49:42] running for County commission,
[49:46] came into the sheriff’s and
[49:46] reported a death threat. Then
[49:49] she came to the county
[49:50] commission and said that she
[49:51] had done it. And the Chronicle
[49:52] said it was a lie that she had
[49:56] never reported it even though
[49:57] they had the video that they
[49:57] that she did. And and you
[50:01] know, the issue really that I
[50:01] have, which you can address is
[50:03] the the sheriff’s office
[50:05] mishandling it because they
[50:06] didn’t put it in in written
[50:10] report. so I found out that
[50:12] Jennifer Grogan has gone back
[50:13] to the sheriff’s office. She’s
[50:16] spoken to commit a crime
[50:18] detective and they have
[50:19] subpoena to her phone records
[50:22] to try to find out who trace
[50:23] it, which I believe should
[50:23] have been done in the first
[50:24] place. So my issue is that the
[50:27] sheriff’s office is not
[50:28] handling these issues
[50:29] correctly from the beginning.
[50:30] And so we Co go back after
[50:32] they find out because of you
[50:36] article in the newspaper that
[50:37] the report was never filed
[50:40] properly. So hope, you know,
[50:43] tomorrow’s election but you’re
[50:44] a gun and still be there for
[50:44] at least the next few months,
[50:45] regardless of what happens in
[50:46] the election. So I would like
[50:47] to see this addressed, you
[50:51] know, the sheriff’s in a way
[50:52] has acknowledged that it was
[50:53] but it shouldn’t take in all
[50:55] this to make that happen. I
[50:58] think procedures and to be put
[51:00] in place so that when somebody
[51:01] comes to the sheriff’s office
[51:03] with complain about a death
[51:06] threat, that there is a
[51:07] procedure that’s followed,
[51:07] that the call was traced. You
[51:08] know, if it’s a it’s a came in
[51:09] through a phone call and that
[51:12] it’s not dismissed in the
[51:13] report immunity. Put that it’s
[51:14] an every day, something like
[51:15] an everyday thing which is
[51:17] just totally wrong exposed