[19:58] >> Good afternoon, everyone.
[20:00] >> Good afternoon, everyone.
And thank you for attending
[20:01] >> Good afternoon, everyone.
And thank you for attending
the special meeting that we
[20:02] And thank you for attending
the special meeting that we
are having today. It’s 1
[20:03] the special meeting that we
are having today. It’s 1
o’clock and we’re going to get
[20:03] are having today. It’s 1
o’clock and we’re going to get
started with the invocation
[20:06] o’clock and we’re going to get
started with the invocation
and the Pledge of Allegiance
[20:07] started with the invocation
and the Pledge of Allegiance
by Commissioner Jeff Canard.
[20:08] and the Pledge of Allegiance
by Commissioner Jeff Canard.
So if you’re willing able
[20:09] by Commissioner Jeff Canard.
So if you’re willing able
please stand.
[20:17] So if you’re willing able
please stand.
>> Generally father, we come
[20:18] please stand.
>> Generally father, we come
to him for today. So thankful
[20:18] >> Generally father, we come
to him for today. So thankful
for the many blessings in our
[20:20] to him for today. So thankful
for the many blessings in our
lives. We thank you for this
[20:22] for the many blessings in our
lives. We thank you for this
opportunity to come together
[20:24] lives. We thank you for this
opportunity to come together
as a community and discuss
[20:24] opportunity to come together
as a community and discuss
issues facing us. We pray that
[20:29] as a community and discuss
issues facing us. We pray that
you would give the years mind
[20:30] issues facing us. We pray that
you would give the years mind
and heart to to listen to each
[20:33] you would give the years mind
and heart to to listen to each
other and ultimately to make
[20:35] and heart to to listen to each
other and ultimately to make
the right decisions for
[20:35] other and ultimately to make
the right decisions for
community going forward. Lord
[20:39] the right decisions for
community going forward. Lord
or hurts and prayers. Our
[20:41] community going forward. Lord
or hurts and prayers. Our
thoughts go out to our first
[20:41] or hurts and prayers. Our
thoughts go out to our first
responders, both here at home
[20:42] thoughts go out to our first
responders, both here at home
and around the world. We pray
[20:44] responders, both here at home
and around the world. We pray
that you would protect them
[20:45] and around the world. We pray
that you would protect them
and bring them home ultimately
[20:46] that you would protect them
and bring them home ultimately
to their families safe and
[20:49] and bring them home ultimately
to their families safe and
sound with. Thank you again
[20:50] to their families safe and
sound with. Thank you again
for blessing this community,
[20:52] sound with. Thank you again
for blessing this community,
this poor Lord in Jesus name.
[20:53] for blessing this community,
this poor Lord in Jesus name.
We pray. Amen. Amen. to the
[21:00] this poor Lord in Jesus name.
We pray. Amen. Amen. to the
flag. United States of America
[21:03] We pray. Amen. Amen. to the
flag. United States of America
to the Republic for which
[21:05] flag. United States of America
to the Republic for which
stands. nation under God.
[21:08] to the Republic for which
stands. nation under God.
Indivisible, with liberty and
[21:09] stands. nation under God.
Indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Thank you.
[21:11] Indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Thank you.
May be seated.
[21:19] justice for all. Thank you.
May be seated.
>> We’re gathered here for a
[21:21] May be seated.
>> We’re gathered here for a
special business of the Pine
[21:22] >> We’re gathered here for a
special business of the Pine
Ridge Circuit Court order.
[21:25] special business of the Pine
Ridge Circuit Court order.
Looks like we are making a
[21:27] Ridge Circuit Court order.
Looks like we are making a
motion we were gathered here
[21:31] Looks like we are making a
motion we were gathered here
together today to decide if we
[21:32] motion we were gathered here
together today to decide if we
will accept the.
[21:35] together today to decide if we
will accept the.
>> With the judge has ruled in
[21:37] will accept the.
>> With the judge has ruled in
the lawsuit or if the county
[21:37] >> With the judge has ruled in
the lawsuit or if the county
wants to take part in that I
[21:40] the lawsuit or if the county
wants to take part in that I
will tell chair, sorry if you
[21:42] wants to take part in that I
will tell chair, sorry if you
want me to do the roll call.
[21:48] will tell chair, sorry if you
want me to do the roll call.
>> OK, let us know who’s here.
[21:55] want me to do the roll call.
>> OK, let us know who’s here.
>> I’m going along the agenda
[21:55] >> OK, let us know who’s here.
>> I’m going along the agenda
here here this is a special
[21:59] >> I’m going along the agenda
here here this is a special
meeting of the Citrus County
[22:00] here here this is a special
meeting of the Citrus County
Board of County commissioners
[22:01] meeting of the Citrus County
Board of County commissioners
on the second day of September
[22:05] Board of County commissioners
on the second day of September
2026 and attendance. Our chair
[22:06] on the second day of September
2026 and attendance. Our chair
Dianne offend again. First
[22:07] 2026 and attendance. Our chair
Dianne offend again. First
Vice Chair Janet Bear Second
[22:09] Dianne offend again. First
Vice Chair Janet Bear Second
Vice Chair Jeff Canard
[22:13] Vice Chair Janet Bear Second
Vice Chair Jeff Canard
Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s
[22:13] Vice Chair Jeff Canard
Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s
Commissioner Holly Davis,
[22:16] Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s
Commissioner Holly Davis,
County Administrator Steve
[22:18] Commissioner Holly Davis,
County Administrator Steve
Howard and county attorney too
[22:18] County Administrator Steve
Howard and county attorney too
nice. A time inland.
[22:25] Howard and county attorney too
nice. A time inland.
>> Well, looks like we have
[22:26] nice. A time inland.
>> Well, looks like we have
Mr. Scott here also and our
[22:28] >> Well, looks like we have
Mr. Scott here also and our
own attorney that will
[22:28] Mr. Scott here also and our
own attorney that will
probably want to say
[22:30] own attorney that will
probably want to say
something. But, you know, the
[22:31] probably want to say
something. But, you know, the
sport has had many discussions
[22:33] something. But, you know, the
sport has had many discussions
about lawsuits and we don’t
[22:33] sport has had many discussions
about lawsuits and we don’t
need to engage in lawsuits
[22:36] about lawsuits and we don’t
need to engage in lawsuits
>> I know I read, you know
[22:39] need to engage in lawsuits
>> I know I read, you know
what came out and what was
[22:41] >> I know I read, you know
what came out and what was
said. I just don’t understand.
[22:43] what came out and what was
said. I just don’t understand.
They need.
[22:47] said. I just don’t understand.
They need.
>> For Citrus County taxpayers
[22:50] They need.
>> For Citrus County taxpayers
to further spend money
[22:53] >> For Citrus County taxpayers
to further spend money
engaging ongoing against other
[22:53] to further spend money
engaging ongoing against other
Citrus County taxpayers. I
[22:57] engaging ongoing against other
Citrus County taxpayers. I
know. And I hate that there’s
[22:58] Citrus County taxpayers. I
know. And I hate that there’s
some division and Pine Ridge.
[23:00] know. And I hate that there’s
some division and Pine Ridge.
But like I had said months
[23:01] some division and Pine Ridge.
But like I had said months
ago, some of those issues, our
[23:05] But like I had said months
ago, some of those issues, our
H.O.A. issues and
[23:07] ago, some of those issues, our
H.O.A. issues and
unfortunately, it’s not for
[23:09] H.O.A. issues and
unfortunately, it’s not for
this board to figure those
[23:10] unfortunately, it’s not for
this board to figure those
issues out that is for your
[23:11] this board to figure those
issues out that is for your
community to figure those out.
[23:14] issues out that is for your
community to figure those out.
So for that reason, I’m going
[23:15] community to figure those out.
So for that reason, I’m going
to go ahead and make a motion
[23:19] So for that reason, I’m going
to go ahead and make a motion
2 not engage in any further
[23:22] to go ahead and make a motion
2 not engage in any further
legal practice, not spend any
[23:24] 2 not engage in any further
legal practice, not spend any
more taxpayer money on this.
[23:25] legal practice, not spend any
more taxpayer money on this.
Obviously, the other parties
[23:25] more taxpayer money on this.
Obviously, the other parties
may engage in whatever. A
[23:28] Obviously, the other parties
may engage in whatever. A
legal battles they wanted to.
[23:32] may engage in whatever. A
legal battles they wanted to.
But my my motion is leave it
[23:34] legal battles they wanted to.
But my my motion is leave it
as it stands. Second. Motion
[23:38] But my my motion is leave it
as it stands. Second. Motion
by Commissioner Finnegan
[23:39] as it stands. Second. Motion
by Commissioner Finnegan
second by. Commissioner Kerik.
[23:42] by Commissioner Finnegan
second by. Commissioner Kerik.
Any public comment. Welcome,
[23:53] second by. Commissioner Kerik.
Any public comment. Welcome,
Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my
[24:01] Any public comment. Welcome,
Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my
my I’m still a little bit on
[24:02] Mister. And Oh, I’m sorry, my
my I’m still a little bit on
vacation brain.
[24:05] my I’m still a little bit on
vacation brain.
>> So you have 3 minutes at
[24:06] vacation brain.
>> So you have 3 minutes at
the podium to speak unless you
[24:07] >> So you have 3 minutes at
the podium to speak unless you
have a letter and filed, then
[24:09] the podium to speak unless you
have a letter and filed, then
you will get 5 minutes. I will
[24:10] have a letter and filed, then
you will get 5 minutes. I will
look at the clerk and she will
[24:11] you will get 5 minutes. I will
look at the clerk and she will
let me know if you actually
[24:14] look at the clerk and she will
let me know if you actually
have the letter and file with
[24:15] let me know if you actually
have the letter and file with
the clerk’s office, she will
[24:15] have the letter and file with
the clerk’s office, she will
give me an odd Orono. Her word
[24:20] the clerk’s office, she will
give me an odd Orono. Her word
is gold. Please keep all your
[24:21] give me an odd Orono. Her word
is gold. Please keep all your
comments. Respectful directed
[24:24] is gold. Please keep all your
comments. Respectful directed
as me the chair and please at
[24:25] comments. Respectful directed
as me the chair and please at
this point, keep it relevant
[24:26] as me the chair and please at
this point, keep it relevant
to the motion that’s on the
[24:27] this point, keep it relevant
to the motion that’s on the
table. Thank you and welcome.
[24:28] to the motion that’s on the
table. Thank you and welcome.
Thank you.
[24:31] table. Thank you and welcome.
Thank you.
>> Yeah, my name is I live in
[24:32] Thank you.
>> Yeah, my name is I live in
Pine Ridge. The states and I
[24:35] >> Yeah, my name is I live in
Pine Ridge. The states and I
wanted to bring up this issue
[24:36] Pine Ridge. The states and I
wanted to bring up this issue
because I kinda doesn’t make
[24:38] wanted to bring up this issue
because I kinda doesn’t make
any sense to me. At the
[24:42] because I kinda doesn’t make
any sense to me. At the
hearing when we actually had
[24:42] any sense to me. At the
hearing when we actually had
the board of County Commission
[24:43] hearing when we actually had
the board of County Commission
hearing on this issue. We’re
[24:47] the board of County Commission
hearing on this issue. We’re
the Pine Ridge attorney and
[24:51] hearing on this issue. We’re
the Pine Ridge attorney and
attorney Lin both stated that
[24:52] the Pine Ridge attorney and
attorney Lin both stated that
it was illegal. You can change
[24:55] attorney Lin both stated that
it was illegal. You can change
a dri with the PDC. And I’m
[24:58] it was illegal. You can change
a dri with the PDC. And I’m
like, wow. So that’s what our
[25:00] a dri with the PDC. And I’m
like, wow. So that’s what our
attorney said. And then it
[25:01] like, wow. So that’s what our
attorney said. And then it
went before we had to take it
[25:02] attorney said. And then it
went before we had to take it
before. A judge even know the
[25:04] went before we had to take it
before. A judge even know the
commissioners voted. To do to
[25:11] before. A judge even know the
commissioners voted. To do to
pass that. And that was told
[25:12] commissioners voted. To do to
pass that. And that was told
that they were told it was
[25:13] pass that. And that was told
that they were told it was
illegal and they still did it.
[25:15] that they were told it was
illegal and they still did it.
And my concern is we the
[25:18] illegal and they still did it.
And my concern is we the
taxpayers pay for an attorney
[25:20] And my concern is we the
taxpayers pay for an attorney
to sit in this room to give
[25:22] taxpayers pay for an attorney
to sit in this room to give
you legal advice and then the
[25:25] to sit in this room to give
you legal advice and then the
commissioners ignored. Why
[25:28] you legal advice and then the
commissioners ignored. Why
should we the taxpayer? Pay?
[25:34] commissioners ignored. Why
should we the taxpayer? Pay?
For these legal fees when our
[25:36] should we the taxpayer? Pay?
For these legal fees when our
attorney, the county attorney
[25:37] For these legal fees when our
attorney, the county attorney
that we already pay for said
[25:38] attorney, the county attorney
that we already pay for said
no, it’s illegal. And yet the
[25:41] that we already pay for said
no, it’s illegal. And yet the
county commissioners violate
[25:43] no, it’s illegal. And yet the
county commissioners violate
that. I’m like, well,
[25:44] county commissioners violate
that. I’m like, well,
shouldn’t they be on the hook
[25:45] that. I’m like, well,
shouldn’t they be on the hook
for that Bill? Not us. Thank
[25:50] shouldn’t they be on the hook
for that Bill? Not us. Thank
you for your comments next.
[25:50] for that Bill? Not us. Thank
you for your comments next.
Speaker.
[25:54] you for your comments next.
Speaker.
>> Anyone else would like to
[25:55] Speaker.
>> Anyone else would like to
speak on this matter. This is
[25:58] >> Anyone else would like to
speak on this matter. This is
your chance to speak before a
[25:58] speak on this matter. This is
your chance to speak before a
motion is Mame.
[26:03] your chance to speak before a
motion is Mame.
>> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The
[26:04] motion is Mame.
>> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The
motion’s already been made. I
[26:05] >> Ma’am, I’m sorry. The
motion’s already been made. I
mean, voted Thank you.
[26:11] motion’s already been made. I
mean, voted Thank you.
>> My name is John Doerr 1927
[26:12] mean, voted Thank you.
>> My name is John Doerr 1927
west about a circle. Pine
[26:13] >> My name is John Doerr 1927
west about a circle. Pine
Ridge. I thank you for all the
[26:17] west about a circle. Pine
Ridge. I thank you for all the
hard work you’ve done. It’s a
[26:17] Ridge. I thank you for all the
hard work you’ve done. It’s a
tough job and thank you for
[26:18] hard work you’ve done. It’s a
tough job and thank you for
having this meeting. I am the
[26:21] tough job and thank you for
having this meeting. I am the
environment, Environmental
[26:22] having this meeting. I am the
environment, Environmental
Committee chair at Pine Ridge.
[26:24] environment, Environmental
Committee chair at Pine Ridge.
And I want to let you know
[26:26] Committee chair at Pine Ridge.
And I want to let you know
that Pine Ridge recently
[26:28] And I want to let you know
that Pine Ridge recently
passed new tree preservation
[26:29] that Pine Ridge recently
passed new tree preservation
restriction to stop clear
[26:31] passed new tree preservation
restriction to stop clear
cutting and preserve mature
[26:32] restriction to stop clear
cutting and preserve mature
tree buffer zone. All odds. It
[26:34] cutting and preserve mature
tree buffer zone. All odds. It
passed with a two-thirds
[26:36] tree buffer zone. All odds. It
passed with a two-thirds
majority vote and that was a
[26:37] passed with a two-thirds
majority vote and that was a
real clear declaration of what
[26:38] majority vote and that was a
real clear declaration of what
Pine Ridge once and
[26:41] real clear declaration of what
Pine Ridge once and
additionally in the board
[26:42] Pine Ridge once and
additionally in the board
elections. None of the
[26:43] additionally in the board
elections. None of the
candidates who stood with
[26:45] elections. None of the
candidates who stood with
Dick’s developers were elected
[26:46] candidates who stood with
Dick’s developers were elected
and there were 4. So I worked
[26:51] Dick’s developers were elected
and there were 4. So I worked
in my Butler County, Ohio
[26:53] and there were 4. So I worked
in my Butler County, Ohio
Township for 20 years in as a
[26:56] in my Butler County, Ohio
Township for 20 years in as a
volunteer for land use and
[26:56] Township for 20 years in as a
volunteer for land use and
zoning Committee. Most
[27:00] volunteer for land use and
zoning Committee. Most
important thing I learned
[27:00] zoning Committee. Most
important thing I learned
there was that the zoning
[27:01] important thing I learned
there was that the zoning
rules and land use plan must
[27:02] there was that the zoning
rules and land use plan must
be can grow. It. Otherwise the
[27:04] rules and land use plan must
be can grow. It. Otherwise the
rules become effective and
[27:06] be can grow. It. Otherwise the
rules become effective and
have little value for managing
[27:08] rules become effective and
have little value for managing
growth. developers, plenty of
[27:09] have little value for managing
growth. developers, plenty of
loopholes. We had a similar
[27:14] growth. developers, plenty of
loopholes. We had a similar
situation where development
[27:15] loopholes. We had a similar
situation where development
was proposed by the
[27:16] situation where development
was proposed by the
commissioners who typically
[27:16] was proposed by the
commissioners who typically
past whatever the developers
[27:18] commissioners who typically
past whatever the developers
presented. But in this case,
[27:19] past whatever the developers
presented. But in this case,
400 people showed up. With
[27:22] presented. But in this case,
400 people showed up. With
major concern to that was
[27:23] 400 people showed up. With
major concern to that was
turned down for evaluation.
[27:26] major concern to that was
turned down for evaluation.
The developer came back with a
[27:28] turned down for evaluation.
The developer came back with a
slightly modified plan that
[27:29] The developer came back with a
slightly modified plan that
did not address any of the
[27:29] slightly modified plan that
did not address any of the
major legal issues and
[27:31] did not address any of the
major legal issues and
appropriately it did not pass.
[27:32] major legal issues and
appropriately it did not pass.
Today’s meeting is being held
[27:36] appropriately it did not pass.
Today’s meeting is being held
because, quote, the court has
[27:38] Today’s meeting is being held
because, quote, the court has
determined that the board
[27:38] because, quote, the court has
determined that the board
failed to observe the
[27:39] determined that the board
failed to observe the
essential requirements of law.
[27:44] failed to observe the
essential requirements of law.
The court also emphasized the
[27:44] essential requirements of law.
The court also emphasized the
need to update both the Ldc
[27:45] The court also emphasized the
need to update both the Ldc
and the comprehensive plan. So
[27:48] need to update both the Ldc
and the comprehensive plan. So
here’s cheerleading section
[27:51] and the comprehensive plan. So
here’s cheerleading section
here. Citrus County cannot
[27:52] here’s cheerleading section
here. Citrus County cannot
live up to its motto where
[27:53] here. Citrus County cannot
live up to its motto where
nature and community thrive
[27:56] live up to its motto where
nature and community thrive
unless our ldc and our
[27:57] nature and community thrive
unless our ldc and our
comprehensive plan matchup,
[27:59] unless our ldc and our
comprehensive plan matchup,
then our leaders must direct
[28:00] comprehensive plan matchup,
then our leaders must direct
the developer to comply and
[28:01] then our leaders must direct
the developer to comply and
they can obey the law. I
[28:05] the developer to comply and
they can obey the law. I
appreciate that. You all have
[28:06] they can obey the law. I
appreciate that. You all have
already recognized the need to
[28:07] appreciate that. You all have
already recognized the need to
modernize both the Ldc and the
[28:08] already recognized the need to
modernize both the Ldc and the
comprehensive plan. And thank
[28:08] modernize both the Ldc and the
comprehensive plan. And thank
you for that. So as a designer
[28:12] comprehensive plan. And thank
you for that. So as a designer
myself, the 2 primary
[28:14] you for that. So as a designer
myself, the 2 primary
questions I always ask and
[28:14] myself, the 2 primary
questions I always ask and
must be addressed up front in
[28:15] questions I always ask and
must be addressed up front in
any plan are what do you want
[28:18] must be addressed up front in
any plan are what do you want
to keep and what do you want
[28:20] any plan are what do you want
to keep and what do you want
to change? And according to I
[28:21] to keep and what do you want
to change? And according to I
do. What we want to keep is
[28:24] to change? And according to I
do. What we want to keep is
the nature coast. We want
[28:28] do. What we want to keep is
the nature coast. We want
communities to thrive. And
[28:29] the nature coast. We want
communities to thrive. And
that is the change that we
[28:29] communities to thrive. And
that is the change that we
should support. So around the
[28:33] that is the change that we
should support. So around the
world, communities that
[28:34] should support. So around the
world, communities that
support environmental
[28:36] world, communities that
support environmental
preservation and cultural
[28:38] support environmental
preservation and cultural
development thrive. They
[28:38] preservation and cultural
development thrive. They
developed a reputation as a
[28:41] development thrive. They
developed a reputation as a
desirable destination for
[28:42] developed a reputation as a
desirable destination for
business and for residents.
[28:45] desirable destination for
business and for residents.
Our motto will not be attained
[28:47] business and for residents.
Our motto will not be attained
by practicing the status quo
[28:48] Our motto will not be attained
by practicing the status quo
for development. That only
[28:49] by practicing the status quo
for development. That only
comes from vision. Good
[28:51] for development. That only
comes from vision. Good
planning and not compromising
[28:52] comes from vision. Good
planning and not compromising
on what’s important. The
[28:54] planning and not compromising
on what’s important. The
developers will be just fine
[28:55] on what’s important. The
developers will be just fine
no matter what. By not
[28:59] developers will be just fine
no matter what. By not
appealing the judge’s
[29:00] no matter what. By not
appealing the judge’s
decision. You show good
[29:01] appealing the judge’s
decision. You show good
leadership and integrity. I
[29:04] decision. You show good
leadership and integrity. I
believe you’ll find much
[29:05] leadership and integrity. I
believe you’ll find much
support from Citrus County
[29:06] believe you’ll find much
support from Citrus County
citizens if you lead us
[29:07] support from Citrus County
citizens if you lead us
towards our motto, with your
[29:10] citizens if you lead us
towards our motto, with your
proactive leadership, we can
[29:11] towards our motto, with your
proactive leadership, we can
keep the nature coast. The
[29:12] proactive leadership, we can
keep the nature coast. The
nature coast, and we could
[29:13] keep the nature coast. The
nature coast, and we could
keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge.
[29:15] nature coast, and we could
keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge.
>> Thank you for comments. I
[29:25] keep Pine Ridge. High Ridge.
>> Thank you for comments. I
love the enthusiasm, but we’re
[29:26] >> Thank you for comments. I
love the enthusiasm, but we’re
going to need to get through
[29:27] love the enthusiasm, but we’re
going to need to get through
everyone that wants to speak.
[29:28] going to need to get through
everyone that wants to speak.
So I failed to say at the
[29:29] everyone that wants to speak.
So I failed to say at the
beginning, please keep your
[29:31] So I failed to say at the
beginning, please keep your
applause.
[29:34] beginning, please keep your
applause.
>> On hold. And then when the
[29:36] applause.
>> On hold. And then when the
hold meetings over, you can
[29:38] >> On hold. And then when the
hold meetings over, you can
applaud or do whatever you
[29:38] hold meetings over, you can
applaud or do whatever you
want to OK, we’ll just going
[29:39] applaud or do whatever you
want to OK, we’ll just going
to get through the meeting
[29:40] want to OK, we’ll just going
to get through the meeting
right now. Next. Speaker
[29:40] to get through the meeting
right now. Next. Speaker
place. And I should have to
[29:44] right now. Next. Speaker
place. And I should have to
say no booing, chairing,
[29:45] place. And I should have to
say no booing, chairing,
cetera, role, respectful.
[29:50] say no booing, chairing,
cetera, role, respectful.
>> Did you all take the in
[29:53] cetera, role, respectful.
>> Did you all take the in
ordering number all start with
[29:54] >> Did you all take the in
ordering number all start with
one in case I messed up one.
[30:12] >> Good morning or afternoon.
[30:13] >> Good morning or afternoon.
I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m
[30:15] >> Good morning or afternoon.
I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m
with you. Thank commissioner
[30:16] I don’t afternoon Yeah, I’m
with you. Thank commissioner
and just briefly, I want to
[30:21] with you. Thank commissioner
and just briefly, I want to
say. Thank you for your
[30:24] and just briefly, I want to
say. Thank you for your
service to the county. for
[30:27] say. Thank you for your
service to the county. for
those exiting. Thank you,
[30:31] service to the county. for
those exiting. Thank you,
especially for your service
[30:31] those exiting. Thank you,
especially for your service
and just. Emphasizing the fact
[30:36] especially for your service
and just. Emphasizing the fact
that this decision made today
[30:38] and just. Emphasizing the fact
that this decision made today
is going to impact the next
[30:39] that this decision made today
is going to impact the next
board and going forward and
[30:40] is going to impact the next
board and going forward and
going forward. So.
[30:43] board and going forward and
going forward. So.
>> Not to be I’m not
[30:44] going forward. So.
>> Not to be I’m not
advocating one way or another
[30:46] >> Not to be I’m not
advocating one way or another
on your decision. I think
[30:47] advocating one way or another
on your decision. I think
you’ve got to follow your
[30:48] on your decision. I think
you’ve got to follow your
lawyers opinion.
[30:50] you’ve got to follow your
lawyers opinion.
>> But there’s no penny wise
[30:50] lawyers opinion.
>> But there’s no penny wise
and pound for show. As far as
[30:53] >> But there’s no penny wise
and pound for show. As far as
Pine Ridge is concerned. I
[30:54] and pound for show. As far as
Pine Ridge is concerned. I
just want to quote the
[30:57] Pine Ridge is concerned. I
just want to quote the
philosopher, Kermit the Frog.
[30:58] just want to quote the
philosopher, Kermit the Frog.
It’s not easy being green the
[31:02] philosopher, Kermit the Frog.
It’s not easy being green the
green people here represent.
[31:03] It’s not easy being green the
green people here represent.
won’t speak for all of them
[31:04] green people here represent.
won’t speak for all of them
but represent. A majority of
[31:07] won’t speak for all of them
but represent. A majority of
believe in the neighborhood.
[31:08] but represent. A majority of
believe in the neighborhood.
But unfortunately, as the
[31:11] believe in the neighborhood.
But unfortunately, as the
previous speaker said, they
[31:13] But unfortunately, as the
previous speaker said, they
want to at the other. The
[31:15] previous speaker said, they
want to at the other. The
other side wants to say that
[31:16] want to at the other. The
other side wants to say that
they got the great support of
[31:18] other side wants to say that
they got the great support of
the community, but they were
[31:19] they got the great support of
the community, but they were
actually elected and are in
[31:21] the community, but they were
actually elected and are in
office would much less than
[31:22] actually elected and are in
office would much less than
20% of the community voting
[31:25] office would much less than
20% of the community voting
that they don’t really
[31:28] 20% of the community voting
that they don’t really
represent everybody and Piney
[31:30] that they don’t really
represent everybody and Piney
Ridge, obviously. So again, I
[31:31] represent everybody and Piney
Ridge, obviously. So again, I
want to thank you. I want you
[31:34] Ridge, obviously. So again, I
want to thank you. I want you
to seriously consider your
[31:36] want to thank you. I want you
to seriously consider your
next move. And again, I’m not
[31:37] to seriously consider your
next move. And again, I’m not
I’m not for spending taxpayer
[31:39] next move. And again, I’m not
I’m not for spending taxpayer
money, but the green church in
[31:42] I’m not for spending taxpayer
money, but the green church in
this room would not have
[31:43] money, but the green church in
this room would not have
supported. The appeal to the
[31:46] this room would not have
supported. The appeal to the
circuit court on your decision
[31:47] supported. The appeal to the
circuit court on your decision
that you made previously, they
[31:49] circuit court on your decision
that you made previously, they
would have said let that
[31:50] that you made previously, they
would have said let that
stand. really I fall, though,
[31:53] would have said let that
stand. really I fall, though,
I alt those people for putting
[31:57] stand. really I fall, though,
I alt those people for putting
you in this position to make a
[31:59] I alt those people for putting
you in this position to make a
decision about spending money.
[32:00] you in this position to make a
decision about spending money.
really them that are. The this
[32:06] decision about spending money.
really them that are. The this
is the catalyst that is
[32:07] really them that are. The this
is the catalyst that is
putting you in this position
[32:08] is the catalyst that is
putting you in this position
is spending more money are not
[32:08] putting you in this position
is spending more money are not
spending more money at the end
[32:09] is spending more money are not
spending more money at the end
of the day, we’ll see what
[32:13] spending more money at the end
of the day, we’ll see what
happens. But I appreciate the
[32:14] of the day, we’ll see what
happens. But I appreciate the
time. Thank you. Thank you.
[32:15] happens. But I appreciate the
time. Thank you. Thank you.
Did you give us your name?
[32:16] time. Thank you. Thank you.
Did you give us your name?
People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1,
[32:19] Did you give us your name?
People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1,
2 north that would drive.
[32:21] People? Kevin Allen for 4, 1,
2 north that would drive.
Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge.
[32:23] 2 north that would drive.
Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge.
Thank you. Number 5. Number 6.
[32:28] Beverly Hills. But Pine Ridge.
Thank you. Number 5. Number 6.
Number 7. Does anyone have
[32:32] Thank you. Number 5. Number 6.
Number 7. Does anyone have
numbers left to speak?
[32:38] Number 7. Does anyone have
numbers left to speak?
>> What number you missed
[32:39] numbers left to speak?
>> What number you missed
South?
[32:49] >> What number you missed
South?
>> I’m getting on getting
[32:49] South?
>> I’m getting on getting
pumped to today. I think. Is
[32:53] >> I’m getting on getting
pumped to today. I think. Is
there any people in the
[32:53] pumped to today. I think. Is
there any people in the
different room? Okay. Only
[32:58] there any people in the
different room? Okay. Only
going to be wild today. I see
[33:00] different room? Okay. Only
going to be wild today. I see
this. Okay. Fine will be wild
[33:14] going to be wild today. I see
this. Okay. Fine will be wild
>> Good afternoon. My name is
[33:15] this. Okay. Fine will be wild
>> Good afternoon. My name is
Diane South and I live on Elk
[33:16] >> Good afternoon. My name is
Diane South and I live on Elk
and Boulevard in Pine Ridge.
[33:19] Diane South and I live on Elk
and Boulevard in Pine Ridge.
And I am the secretary of the
[33:20] and Boulevard in Pine Ridge.
And I am the secretary of the
Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam
[33:24] And I am the secretary of the
Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam
Chair Commissioners, once
[33:25] Pine Ridge Peel away. Madam
Chair Commissioners, once
again, we are asking our
[33:26] Chair Commissioners, once
again, we are asking our
county commissioners to
[33:27] again, we are asking our
county commissioners to
acknowledge what residents
[33:28] county commissioners to
acknowledge what residents
have been saying since 2023.
[33:31] acknowledge what residents
have been saying since 2023.
It shouldn’t have taken a
[33:32] have been saying since 2023.
It shouldn’t have taken a
court order. Our attorney was
[33:33] It shouldn’t have taken a
court order. Our attorney was
belittled when he advised that
[33:36] court order. Our attorney was
belittled when he advised that
the citrus staff had been off
[33:37] belittled when he advised that
the citrus staff had been off
the mark for years. But on
[33:40] the citrus staff had been off
the mark for years. But on
August 14th, the 5th Judicial
[33:42] the mark for years. But on
August 14th, the 5th Judicial
Circuit court vindicated him
[33:44] August 14th, the 5th Judicial
Circuit court vindicated him
and us today you’re hearing
[33:46] Circuit court vindicated him
and us today you’re hearing
from the P o a board and
[33:49] and us today you’re hearing
from the P o a board and
committee members who are
[33:50] from the P o a board and
committee members who are
elected and appointed to
[33:50] committee members who are
elected and appointed to
represent the official
[33:51] elected and appointed to
represent the official
position of the peel away and
[33:54] represent the official
position of the peel away and
the residents we were elected
[33:56] position of the peel away and
the residents we were elected
to serve. We tune out the
[33:58] the residents we were elected
to serve. We tune out the
noise and fulfill our
[33:59] to serve. We tune out the
noise and fulfill our
fiduciary duty. PUA elections
[34:03] noise and fulfill our
fiduciary duty. PUA elections
have also occurred during this
[34:05] fiduciary duty. PUA elections
have also occurred during this
time. The message from our
[34:06] have also occurred during this
time. The message from our
residents was clear and make
[34:08] time. The message from our
residents was clear and make
no mistake, the majority of
[34:10] residents was clear and make
no mistake, the majority of
Pine Ridge residents don’t
[34:11] no mistake, the majority of
Pine Ridge residents don’t
live on the golf course. We
[34:14] Pine Ridge residents don’t
live on the golf course. We
certainly remember you hearing
[34:15] live on the golf course. We
certainly remember you hearing
us in January of 24 with the
[34:18] certainly remember you hearing
us in January of 24 with the
unanimous vote. And so what
[34:21] us in January of 24 with the
unanimous vote. And so what
happened? We rewarded those
[34:22] unanimous vote. And so what
happened? We rewarded those
running in August 2024. With
[34:23] happened? We rewarded those
running in August 2024. With
our vote. Why? Because you
[34:26] running in August 2024. With
our vote. Why? Because you
advised you understood the
[34:28] our vote. Why? Because you
advised you understood the
issues and you would protect
[34:30] advised you understood the
issues and you would protect
Pine Ridge. The master plan
[34:31] issues and you would protect
Pine Ridge. The master plan
and the golf course. For our
[34:33] Pine Ridge. The master plan
and the golf course. For our
part, we stated that you
[34:35] and the golf course. For our
part, we stated that you
should be paying attention to
[34:37] part, we stated that you
should be paying attention to
the processes of the land
[34:38] should be paying attention to
the processes of the land
growth management. And so did
[34:38] the processes of the land
growth management. And so did
our attorney. We believed in
[34:42] growth management. And so did
our attorney. We believed in
your conviction being
[34:42] our attorney. We believed in
your conviction being
principled and your integrity
[34:44] your conviction being
principled and your integrity
and then comes August. 25, we
[34:48] principled and your integrity
and then comes August. 25, we
were stunned at your failure
[34:48] and then comes August. 25, we
were stunned at your failure
to support those who supported
[34:51] were stunned at your failure
to support those who supported
you. It went against
[34:52] to support those who supported
you. It went against
everything we preach to our
[34:54] you. It went against
everything we preach to our
residents. We learned after
[34:55] everything we preach to our
residents. We learned after
the fact that it was Pine
[34:57] residents. We learned after
the fact that it was Pine
Ridge swinging a close
[35:00] the fact that it was Pine
Ridge swinging a close
election district, 3 in
[35:01] Ridge swinging a close
election district, 3 in
support of Commissioner
[35:01] election district, 3 in
support of Commissioner
Barrick. We got visibly behind
[35:05] support of Commissioner
Barrick. We got visibly behind
3 candidates because of their
[35:06] Barrick. We got visibly behind
3 candidates because of their
stated understandings. It
[35:09] 3 candidates because of their
stated understandings. It
should also be noted that we
[35:12] stated understandings. It
should also be noted that we
supported Commissioner base
[35:12] should also be noted that we
supported Commissioner base
when she ran in 2022, why?
[35:16] supported Commissioner base
when she ran in 2022, why?
Because she had stated her
[35:18] when she ran in 2022, why?
Because she had stated her
commitment to residents in the
[35:19] Because she had stated her
commitment to residents in the
2022 Pine Ridge candidates the
[35:23] commitment to residents in the
2022 Pine Ridge candidates the
citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters
[35:24] 2022 Pine Ridge candidates the
citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters
have spoken in 2026. and there
[35:27] citrus and Pine Ridge. Voters
have spoken in 2026. and there
should be no doubt there will
[35:28] have spoken in 2026. and there
should be no doubt there will
be a close watch in the lead
[35:29] should be no doubt there will
be a close watch in the lead
up to 2028, another notable
[35:32] be a close watch in the lead
up to 2028, another notable
and trackable fact people in
[35:36] up to 2028, another notable
and trackable fact people in
Citrus County have been paying
[35:36] and trackable fact people in
Citrus County have been paying
attention to what Pine Ridge
[35:37] Citrus County have been paying
attention to what Pine Ridge
says and does much to the
[35:39] attention to what Pine Ridge
says and does much to the
regret of Pine Ridge. We lost
[35:43] says and does much to the
regret of Pine Ridge. We lost
a champion of the people in
[35:44] regret of Pine Ridge. We lost
a champion of the people in
commissioner and again, we
[35:47] a champion of the people in
commissioner and again, we
clearly did our part as Pine
[35:48] commissioner and again, we
clearly did our part as Pine
Ridge up citrus in supporting
[35:50] clearly did our part as Pine
Ridge up citrus in supporting
Finnegan over Worthington,
[35:51] Ridge up citrus in supporting
Finnegan over Worthington,
Herndon, over bays. So we will
[35:55] Finnegan over Worthington,
Herndon, over bays. So we will
be closely monitoring
[35:56] Herndon, over bays. So we will
be closely monitoring
commissioners elect Herndon
[35:58] be closely monitoring
commissioners elect Herndon
and Worthington and based on
[36:00] commissioners elect Herndon
and Worthington and based on
their Pine Ridge candidate
[36:02] and Worthington and based on
their Pine Ridge candidate
responses. We have every
[36:04] their Pine Ridge candidate
responses. We have every
reason to be very optimistic.
[36:07] responses. We have every
reason to be very optimistic.
So today we want to put
[36:08] reason to be very optimistic.
So today we want to put
something formally into the
[36:09] So today we want to put
something formally into the
record that we have already
[36:10] something formally into the
record that we have already
brought to your attention. The
[36:13] record that we have already
brought to your attention. The
bocc should order a deep
[36:15] brought to your attention. The
bocc should order a deep
independent review of how land
[36:16] bocc should order a deep
independent review of how land
growth management is doing
[36:18] independent review of how land
growth management is doing
business. Perhaps a blue
[36:20] growth management is doing
business. Perhaps a blue
ribbon panel of citizens
[36:21] business. Perhaps a blue
ribbon panel of citizens
disconnected from the current
[36:23] ribbon panel of citizens
disconnected from the current
ongoing flawed process. It’s
[36:27] disconnected from the current
ongoing flawed process. It’s
long overdue. And the 5th
[36:28] ongoing flawed process. It’s
long overdue. And the 5th
judicial court weighed in loud
[36:31] long overdue. And the 5th
judicial court weighed in loud
and clear in an extraordinary
[36:33] judicial court weighed in loud
and clear in an extraordinary
21 page decision. But whatever
[36:34] and clear in an extraordinary
21 page decision. But whatever
it takes, it must be
[36:36] 21 page decision. But whatever
it takes, it must be
objective. The current process
[36:40] it takes, it must be
objective. The current process
fundamentally flawed.
[36:41] objective. The current process
fundamentally flawed.
Unbalanced when developers can
[36:42] fundamentally flawed.
Unbalanced when developers can
work with staff for months
[36:44] Unbalanced when developers can
work with staff for months
before a matter, reaches the
[36:46] work with staff for months
before a matter, reaches the
planning and developed mission
[36:47] before a matter, reaches the
planning and developed mission
or the bocc while affected
[36:51] planning and developed mission
or the bocc while affected
citizens are left with an
[36:52] or the bocc while affected
citizens are left with an
after the fact 3 minute
[36:54] citizens are left with an
after the fact 3 minute
speech. This is not
[36:55] after the fact 3 minute
speech. This is not
meaningful. Public
[36:57] speech. This is not
meaningful. Public
participation. The 2026 bocc
[37:00] meaningful. Public
participation. The 2026 bocc
has an opportunity to get it
[37:02] participation. The 2026 bocc
has an opportunity to get it
done right? We respectfully
[37:05] has an opportunity to get it
done right? We respectfully
suggest the bocc support
[37:06] done right? We respectfully
suggest the bocc support
there. Constituents. There is
[37:09] suggest the bocc support
there. Constituents. There is
still time to rebuild the
[37:10] there. Constituents. There is
still time to rebuild the
trust that was lost and
[37:12] still time to rebuild the
trust that was lost and
perhaps somewhat ironically,
[37:14] trust that was lost and
perhaps somewhat ironically,
you can thank the courts for
[37:15] perhaps somewhat ironically,
you can thank the courts for
providing the reason and the
[37:18] you can thank the courts for
providing the reason and the
opportunity to do it. Please
[37:21] providing the reason and the
opportunity to do it. Please
vote against the appeal. And I
[37:22] opportunity to do it. Please
vote against the appeal. And I
thank you for your time and
[37:23] vote against the appeal. And I
thank you for your time and
your service. Thank you very
[37:24] thank you for your time and
your service. Thank you very
much. Thank you for your
[37:25] your service. Thank you very
much. Thank you for your
comments next. Speaker.
[37:33] much. Thank you for your
comments next. Speaker.
>> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North
[37:34] comments next. Speaker.
>> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North
Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good
[37:37] >> Jon, Hide 4, 9, 9, 1, North
Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good
afternoon. Commissioners. I’m
[37:41] Mulberry loop Pine Ridge. Good
afternoon. Commissioners. I’m
the president of the Pine
[37:41] afternoon. Commissioners. I’m
the president of the Pine
Ridge Property Owners
[37:43] the president of the Pine
Ridge Property Owners
Association. And just to
[37:45] Ridge Property Owners
Association. And just to
correct the one speaker before
[37:47] Association. And just to
correct the one speaker before
we had a 33% on our last
[37:48] correct the one speaker before
we had a 33% on our last
election. 33% of our voters
[37:49] we had a 33% on our last
election. 33% of our voters
voted. Like you, the
[37:52] election. 33% of our voters
voted. Like you, the
directors. Thank Directors. Of
[37:56] voted. Like you, the
directors. Thank Directors. Of
Pine Ridge Poe are elected by
[37:57] directors. Thank Directors. Of
Pine Ridge Poe are elected by
the residents. We represent.
[38:02] Pine Ridge Poe are elected by
the residents. We represent.
Our records are commitments in
[38:02] the residents. We represent.
Our records are commitments in
the issues that matter to our
[38:03] Our records are commitments in
the issues that matter to our
community. For the past 5
[38:05] the issues that matter to our
community. For the past 5
election. The fund, the
[38:08] community. For the past 5
election. The fund, the
future, the golf course.
[38:09] election. The fund, the
future, the golf course.
Property Pine Ridge Master
[38:11] future, the golf course.
Property Pine Ridge Master
plan and the proposed rezoning
[38:13] Property Pine Ridge Master
plan and the proposed rezoning
and development have been
[38:14] plan and the proposed rezoning
and development have been
major issues before voters. In
[38:17] and development have been
major issues before voters. In
each of those elections. A
[38:18] major issues before voters. In
each of those elections. A
majority of Pine Ridge voters
[38:19] each of those elections. A
majority of Pine Ridge voters
have elected candidates who
[38:22] majority of Pine Ridge voters
have elected candidates who
supported continuity of
[38:22] have elected candidates who
supported continuity of
purpose in action and
[38:25] supported continuity of
purpose in action and
maintaining the character
[38:26] purpose in action and
maintaining the character
integrity and long established
[38:28] maintaining the character
integrity and long established
print planning principles of
[38:29] integrity and long established
print planning principles of
Pine Ridge. We’re here today
[38:32] print planning principles of
Pine Ridge. We’re here today
because we because of Pine
[38:34] Pine Ridge. We’re here today
because we because of Pine
Ridge was put in a position
[38:36] because we because of Pine
Ridge was put in a position
that no community should have
[38:38] Ridge was put in a position
that no community should have
to face going to court to
[38:39] that no community should have
to face going to court to
ensure that its county
[38:40] to face going to court to
ensure that its county
government follows its own
[38:42] ensure that its county
government follows its own
adopted laws and planning
[38:44] government follows its own
adopted laws and planning
requirements. We filed a
[38:44] adopted laws and planning
requirements. We filed a
petition with the court. And
[38:46] requirements. We filed a
petition with the court. And
the court agreed with us. The
[38:50] petition with the court. And
the court agreed with us. The
court did not simply disagree
[38:51] the court agreed with us. The
court did not simply disagree
with the board’s decision on a
[38:52] court did not simply disagree
with the board’s decision on a
matter of policy. The court
[38:54] with the board’s decision on a
matter of policy. The court
found that the county failed
[38:56] matter of policy. The court
found that the county failed
to observe essential
[38:56] found that the county failed
to observe essential
requirements of the law. The
[39:00] to observe essential
requirements of the law. The
court then granted Pine
[39:01] requirements of the law. The
court then granted Pine
Ridge’s petition quash the
[39:03] court then granted Pine
Ridge’s petition quash the
county’s approval, an
[39:04] Ridge’s petition quash the
county’s approval, an
ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us
[39:06] county’s approval, an
ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us
here today. You’re now being
[39:11] ordinance 2025 a 16. brings us
here today. You’re now being
asked to decide whether Citrus
[39:12] here today. You’re now being
asked to decide whether Citrus
County should spend additional
[39:14] asked to decide whether Citrus
County should spend additional
public resources seeking
[39:15] County should spend additional
public resources seeking
repellent, appellate review of
[39:16] public resources seeking
repellent, appellate review of
that decision. Or expect
[39:19] repellent, appellate review of
that decision. Or expect
really ask you to consider.
[39:22] that decision. Or expect
really ask you to consider.
What decision would say to
[39:22] really ask you to consider.
What decision would say to
people you represent. Pine
[39:26] What decision would say to
people you represent. Pine
Ridge has spent years coming
[39:27] people you represent. Pine
Ridge has spent years coming
before the county
[39:28] Ridge has spent years coming
before the county
participating in its
[39:29] before the county
participating in its
processes. Presenting
[39:29] participating in its
processes. Presenting
evidence. Asking that the
[39:33] processes. Presenting
evidence. Asking that the
integrity of our communities
[39:34] evidence. Asking that the
integrity of our communities
long established masterplan
[39:35] integrity of our communities
long established masterplan
respected. The circuit court
[39:39] long established masterplan
respected. The circuit court
has spoken. They ruled that
[39:40] respected. The circuit court
has spoken. They ruled that
the process used to approve
[39:41] has spoken. They ruled that
the process used to approve
this particular application
[39:44] the process used to approve
this particular application
did not satisfy the essential
[39:44] this particular application
did not satisfy the essential
requirements of the law. This
[39:46] did not satisfy the essential
requirements of the law. This
distinction matters. I
[39:50] requirements of the law. This
distinction matters. I
respectfully asked you to vote
[39:51] distinction matters. I
respectfully asked you to vote
not to appeal. Thank you.
[39:53] respectfully asked you to vote
not to appeal. Thank you.
>> Next, speaker. Mr. Hyde.
[40:12] >> Good afternoon.
[40:12] >> Good afternoon.
Commissioners. My name is
[40:16] >> Good afternoon.
Commissioners. My name is
Kerry D-ma relatively new
[40:17] Commissioners. My name is
Kerry D-ma relatively new
resident in Pine Ridge. I want
[40:20] Kerry D-ma relatively new
resident in Pine Ridge. I want
to speak briefly about
[40:21] resident in Pine Ridge. I want
to speak briefly about
something that goes beyond
[40:21] to speak briefly about
something that goes beyond
this one application and this
[40:22] something that goes beyond
this one application and this
one property. Pine Ridge is an
[40:26] this one application and this
one property. Pine Ridge is an
established community
[40:26] one property. Pine Ridge is an
established community
developed under a
[40:28] established community
developed under a
long-standing dri and master
[40:30] developed under a
long-standing dri and master
plan. But what makes Pine
[40:31] long-standing dri and master
plan. But what makes Pine
Ridge special is not simply
[40:32] plan. But what makes Pine
Ridge special is not simply
its age. It is it’s character.
[40:36] Ridge special is not simply
its age. It is it’s character.
The way the community was
[40:38] its age. It is it’s character.
The way the community was
planned. The open spaces, the
[40:40] The way the community was
planned. The open spaces, the
recreation areas, the
[40:41] planned. The open spaces, the
recreation areas, the
equestrian character, the golf
[40:42] recreation areas, the
equestrian character, the golf
course, property. The larger
[40:43] equestrian character, the golf
course, property. The larger
lots. Together. Those things
[40:46] course, property. The larger
lots. Together. Those things
created a place that thousands
[40:47] lots. Together. Those things
created a place that thousands
of people. Deliberately chose
[40:50] created a place that thousands
of people. Deliberately chose
to call home. They didn’t
[40:51] of people. Deliberately chose
to call home. They didn’t
simply buy houses. They
[40:53] to call home. They didn’t
simply buy houses. They
invested in the community.
[40:57] simply buy houses. They
invested in the community.
When a community has existed
[40:58] invested in the community.
When a community has existed
for decades under of Vesta
[41:01] When a community has existed
for decades under of Vesta
Dri. Masterplan, I believe the
[41:01] for decades under of Vesta
Dri. Masterplan, I believe the
standard for fundamentally
[41:03] Dri. Masterplan, I believe the
standard for fundamentally
changing that plan should not
[41:04] standard for fundamentally
changing that plan should not
be higher. And not lower. It
[41:07] changing that plan should not
be higher. And not lower. It
should be higher and lower.
[41:12] be higher. And not lower. It
should be higher and lower.
Please don’t make it easier to
[41:13] should be higher and lower.
Please don’t make it easier to
dismantle the very features
[41:14] Please don’t make it easier to
dismantle the very features
that made these communities
[41:15] dismantle the very features
that made these communities
desirable in the first place.
[41:18] that made these communities
desirable in the first place.
If someone wants to make a
[41:19] desirable in the first place.
If someone wants to make a
major change to along that
[41:21] If someone wants to make a
major change to along that
standing dri community, there
[41:22] major change to along that
standing dri community, there
should be a compelling reason.
[41:26] standing dri community, there
should be a compelling reason.
There should be a clearly
[41:28] should be a compelling reason.
There should be a clearly
demonstrated benefit to the
[41:29] There should be a clearly
demonstrated benefit to the
community being affected. Not
[41:33] demonstrated benefit to the
community being affected. Not
simply more density, not
[41:33] community being affected. Not
simply more density, not
simply greater financial
[41:36] simply more density, not
simply greater financial
return and not simply because
[41:37] simply greater financial
return and not simply because
a new owner believes another
[41:38] return and not simply because
a new owner believes another
use would be more profitable.
[41:44] a new owner believes another
use would be more profitable.
The question should be, what
[41:44] use would be more profitable.
The question should be, what
does this change give back to
[41:45] The question should be, what
does this change give back to
the community? Does it improve
[41:49] does this change give back to
the community? Does it improve
our quality of life? Doesn’t
[41:50] the community? Does it improve
our quality of life? Doesn’t
preserve the character.
[41:51] our quality of life? Doesn’t
preserve the character.
Residents relied on. Doesn’t
[41:54] preserve the character.
Residents relied on. Doesn’t
preserve the character.
[41:54] Residents relied on. Doesn’t
preserve the character.
Residents. Relied. Does it
[41:59] preserve the character.
Residents. Relied. Does it
provide recreation open
[41:59] Residents. Relied. Does it
provide recreation open
meaningful community benefit
[42:02] provide recreation open
meaningful community benefit
or does it simply remove
[42:02] meaningful community benefit
or does it simply remove
something that serves the
[42:04] or does it simply remove
something that serves the
community for decades and
[42:06] something that serves the
community for decades and
replace it with something more
[42:06] community for decades and
replace it with something more
profitable? Because once these
[42:10] replace it with something more
profitable? Because once these
communities assets are gone,
[42:12] profitable? Because once these
communities assets are gone,
they can never be brought
[42:13] communities assets are gone,
they can never be brought
back. The Pine Ridge Golf
[42:16] they can never be brought
back. The Pine Ridge Golf
Course. Property a perfect
[42:17] back. The Pine Ridge Golf
Course. Property a perfect
example for approximately 50
[42:20] Course. Property a perfect
example for approximately 50
years. It has been part of the
[42:21] example for approximately 50
years. It has been part of the
community and the planning of
[42:23] years. It has been part of the
community and the planning of
this community that is stored
[42:24] community and the planning of
this community that is stored
should matter. The master plan
[42:26] this community that is stored
should matter. The master plan
should matter. And thousands
[42:29] should matter. The master plan
should matter. And thousands
of people who invested here
[42:31] should matter. And thousands
of people who invested here
rely on that community should
[42:32] of people who invested here
rely on that community should
matter. Commissioners growth
[42:34] rely on that community should
matter. Commissioners growth
is important. Property rights
[42:37] matter. Commissioners growth
is important. Property rights
are important. But stewardship
[42:40] is important. Property rights
are important. But stewardship
is the most important. Your
[42:45] are important. But stewardship
is the most important. Your
responsibility is not only to
[42:45] is the most important. Your
responsibility is not only to
decide what can be changed.
[42:49] responsibility is not only to
decide what can be changed.
Sometimes your responsibility
[42:49] decide what can be changed.
Sometimes your responsibility
is to recognize with deserves
[42:50] Sometimes your responsibility
is to recognize with deserves
to be protected. Please do not
[42:53] is to recognize with deserves
to be protected. Please do not
lower the standard for
[42:55] to be protected. Please do not
lower the standard for
changing the established dri
[42:57] lower the standard for
changing the established dri
communities raise the standard
[43:00] changing the established dri
communities raise the standard
require a meaningful benefit
[43:01] communities raise the standard
require a meaningful benefit
to the community for
[43:03] require a meaningful benefit
to the community for
fundamentally changing that
[43:04] to the community for
fundamentally changing that
community was built upon.
[43:06] fundamentally changing that
community was built upon.
Protect the community, protect
[43:08] community was built upon.
Protect the community, protect
the character and protect the
[43:09] Protect the community, protect
the character and protect the
people who trusted the plan
[43:10] the character and protect the
people who trusted the plan
that was put in place for
[43:11] people who trusted the plan
that was put in place for
them. Thank you. Thank you.
[43:15] that was put in place for
them. Thank you. Thank you.
Next, Speaker.
[43:27] them. Thank you. Thank you.
Next, Speaker.
>> To state that and the
[43:28] Next, Speaker.
>> To state that and the
microphone and then we’ll talk
[43:29] >> To state that and the
microphone and then we’ll talk
with the clerk, your name and
[43:31] microphone and then we’ll talk
with the clerk, your name and
who you’re Technicolor.
[43:35] with the clerk, your name and
who you’re Technicolor.
>> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on
[43:36] who you’re Technicolor.
>> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on
record as a speaker for the P
[43:36] >> I’m Jim Rental and I’m on
record as a speaker for the P
l a. Good afternoon.
[43:40] record as a speaker for the P
l a. Good afternoon.
Commissioners again, Jim
[43:42] l a. Good afternoon.
Commissioners again, Jim
Reynolds, I live in Pine
[43:43] Commissioners again, Jim
Reynolds, I live in Pine
Ridge, not on the golf course.
[43:46] Reynolds, I live in Pine
Ridge, not on the golf course.
I want to address what can
[43:48] Ridge, not on the golf course.
I want to address what can
easily get lost when this
[43:49] I want to address what can
easily get lost when this
issue was reduced to a courage
[43:51] easily get lost when this
issue was reduced to a courage
density calculations and and
[43:55] issue was reduced to a courage
density calculations and and
development procedures. Pine
[43:55] density calculations and and
development procedures. Pine
Ridge is not simply property
[43:57] development procedures. Pine
Ridge is not simply property
on a zoning map. It’s a
[43:59] Ridge is not simply property
on a zoning map. It’s a
community of 12,000 residents
[44:02] on a zoning map. It’s a
community of 12,000 residents
that has been developing for
[44:03] community of 12,000 residents
that has been developing for
nearly 50 years. Thousands of
[44:05] that has been developing for
nearly 50 years. Thousands of
families have invested their
[44:06] nearly 50 years. Thousands of
families have invested their
savings, purchased homes, pay
[44:09] families have invested their
savings, purchased homes, pay
taxes and built their lives.
[44:11] savings, purchased homes, pay
taxes and built their lives.
Here based on the established
[44:13] taxes and built their lives.
Here based on the established
character and planning
[44:14] Here based on the established
character and planning
framework of this community.
[44:15] character and planning
framework of this community.
The golf course. Has
[44:19] framework of this community.
The golf course. Has
historically been part of that
[44:20] The golf course. Has
historically been part of that
framework. The court’s order
[44:25] historically been part of that
framework. The court’s order
recognizes that this 221 acre
[44:26] framework. The court’s order
recognizes that this 221 acre
property was historically
[44:28] recognizes that this 221 acre
property was historically
developed as a golf course.
[44:30] property was historically
developed as a golf course.
And as part of a previously
[44:31] developed as a golf course.
And as part of a previously
previously approved.
[44:33] And as part of a previously
previously approved.
Development regional impact.
[44:36] previously approved.
Development regional impact.
The application approved by
[44:38] Development regional impact.
The application approved by
this board sought to change
[44:40] The application approved by
this board sought to change
that property from a planned
[44:42] this board sought to change
that property from a planned
development overlay for golf
[44:45] that property from a planned
development overlay for golf
course. Use to residential use
[44:45] development overlay for golf
course. Use to residential use
permitting up to 80 new homes.
[44:49] course. Use to residential use
permitting up to 80 new homes.
That is not an ordinary zoning
[44:51] permitting up to 80 new homes.
That is not an ordinary zoning
change. It’s a significant
[44:54] That is not an ordinary zoning
change. It’s a significant
land use change within an
[44:55] change. It’s a significant
land use change within an
established community. Pine
[44:59] land use change within an
established community. Pine
Ridge was planned with
[45:00] established community. Pine
Ridge was planned with
residential neighborhoods and
[45:02] Ridge was planned with
residential neighborhoods and
community amenities, including
[45:05] residential neighborhoods and
community amenities, including
equestrian facilities,
[45:06] community amenities, including
equestrian facilities,
recreation, open space and the
[45:07] equestrian facilities,
recreation, open space and the
golf course. People relied
[45:09] recreation, open space and the
golf course. People relied
upon that character when they
[45:11] golf course. People relied
upon that character when they
chose to invest it live here,
[45:13] upon that character when they
chose to invest it live here,
including me. So when
[45:17] chose to invest it live here,
including me. So when
residents say protect the Pine
[45:18] including me. So when
residents say protect the Pine
Ridge master plan. We are
[45:21] residents say protect the Pine
Ridge master plan. We are
saying established communities
[45:23] Ridge master plan. We are
saying established communities
deserve reasonable certainty
[45:26] saying established communities
deserve reasonable certainty
that their adopted planning
[45:27] deserve reasonable certainty
that their adopted planning
framework will be respected.
[45:29] that their adopted planning
framework will be respected.
Otherwise. What does a master
[45:35] framework will be respected.
Otherwise. What does a master
plan, meaning those owning
[45:35] Otherwise. What does a master
plan, meaning those owning
designation? ADR? I what do
[45:38] plan, meaning those owning
designation? ADR? I what do
they really me? If we can’t
[45:40] designation? ADR? I what do
they really me? If we can’t
rely on them? There’s another
[45:45] they really me? If we can’t
rely on them? There’s another
important consideration. I
[45:46] rely on them? There’s another
important consideration. I
like to mention. We’re not
[45:50] important consideration. I
like to mention. We’re not
asking Citrus County taxpayers
[45:52] like to mention. We’re not
asking Citrus County taxpayers
to purchase or operate this
[45:52] asking Citrus County taxpayers
to purchase or operate this
golf course. Private parties
[45:56] to purchase or operate this
golf course. Private parties
have expressed interest and
[45:59] golf course. Private parties
have expressed interest and
restoring and operating the
[46:00] have expressed interest and
restoring and operating the
property. Alternatives exist
[46:06] restoring and operating the
property. Alternatives exist
that preserve the recreation,
[46:07] property. Alternatives exist
that preserve the recreation,
the green space and the
[46:08] that preserve the recreation,
the green space and the
historic character of Pine
[46:10] the green space and the
historic character of Pine
Ridge without placing any
[46:13] historic character of Pine
Ridge without placing any
burden on county taxpayers. We
[46:17] Ridge without placing any
burden on county taxpayers. We
understand Citrus County is
[46:18] burden on county taxpayers. We
understand Citrus County is
growing but responsible
[46:19] understand Citrus County is
growing but responsible
growth. Requires balancing new
[46:23] growing but responsible
growth. Requires balancing new
development with the
[46:25] growth. Requires balancing new
development with the
legitimate expectations of
[46:26] development with the
legitimate expectations of
people who are already here.
[46:29] legitimate expectations of
people who are already here.
We homeowners are investors
[46:29] people who are already here.
We homeowners are investors
too. Our property values
[46:34] We homeowners are investors
too. Our property values
matter our quality of life
[46:36] too. Our property values
matter our quality of life
matters. Our reliance upon
[46:37] matter our quality of life
matters. Our reliance upon
county planning, decisions
[46:38] matters. Our reliance upon
county planning, decisions
matter. And our voices should
[46:40] county planning, decisions
matter. And our voices should
matter, too. The circuit court
[46:44] matter. And our voices should
matter, too. The circuit court
has quashed this approval. We
[46:48] matter, too. The circuit court
has quashed this approval. We
feel rather than spending
[46:49] has quashed this approval. We
feel rather than spending
additional taxpayer funds
[46:50] feel rather than spending
additional taxpayer funds
appealing that decision, allow
[46:54] additional taxpayer funds
appealing that decision, allow
Pine Ridge to pursue solutions
[46:57] appealing that decision, allow
Pine Ridge to pursue solutions
that require any and require
[47:01] Pine Ridge to pursue solutions
that require any and require
any future proposal to follow
[47:03] that require any and require
any future proposal to follow
the legally authorized process
[47:04] any future proposal to follow
the legally authorized process
from the beginning. Please
[47:06] the legally authorized process
from the beginning. Please
vote not to appeal. And thank
[47:09] from the beginning. Please
vote not to appeal. And thank
you all. Thank you.
[47:11] vote not to appeal. And thank
you all. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker.
[47:24] you all. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker.
>> Good afternoon.
[47:24] >> Next, Speaker.
>> Good afternoon.
Commissioners. My name is Ron
[47:28] >> Good afternoon.
Commissioners. My name is Ron
Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge
[47:29] Commissioners. My name is Ron
Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge
on North now. Circle and I
[47:31] Wasser. I live in Pine Ridge
on North now. Circle and I
serve as a committee chair.
[47:34] on North now. Circle and I
serve as a committee chair.
For nearly 4 years now. 100
[47:38] serve as a committee chair.
For nearly 4 years now. 100
residents have been burned in
[47:39] For nearly 4 years now. 100
residents have been burned in
this process. Weve attended
[47:43] residents have been burned in
this process. Weve attended
meetings and hearings. We’ve
[47:45] this process. Weve attended
meetings and hearings. We’ve
submitted evidence. We spoke
[47:48] meetings and hearings. We’ve
submitted evidence. We spoke
before this board. Even had to
[47:52] submitted evidence. We spoke
before this board. Even had to
hire experts and attorneys.
[47:55] before this board. Even had to
hire experts and attorneys.
And we have followed all the
[47:55] hire experts and attorneys.
And we have followed all the
rules. And when our concerns
[48:00] And we have followed all the
rules. And when our concerns
were not heard, we were forced
[48:00] rules. And when our concerns
were not heard, we were forced
to go to circuit court. We did
[48:04] were not heard, we were forced
to go to circuit court. We did
not ask for this. And we did
[48:06] to go to circuit court. We did
not ask for this. And we did
not start this. This is not
[48:10] not ask for this. And we did
not start this. This is not
something our community wanted
[48:11] not start this. This is not
something our community wanted
to do. But we had to do it
[48:15] something our community wanted
to do. But we had to do it
because we believe the laws.
[48:17] to do. But we had to do it
because we believe the laws.
The land development code and
[48:20] because we believe the laws.
The land development code and
the protections surrounding
[48:21] The land development code and
the protections surrounding
our community matters and
[48:22] the protections surrounding
our community matters and
should be protected. And court
[48:25] our community matters and
should be protected. And court
agreed. The result was not
[48:28] should be protected. And court
agreed. The result was not
ambiguous. The court found
[48:32] agreed. The result was not
ambiguous. The court found
that the board failed to
[48:33] ambiguous. The court found
that the board failed to
observe the essential
[48:33] that the board failed to
observe the essential
requirements of law. The court
[48:37] observe the essential
requirements of law. The court
granted our petition of Reddit
[48:40] requirements of law. The court
granted our petition of Reddit
of certiorari and the court
[48:41] granted our petition of Reddit
of certiorari and the court
quashed the ordinance. It said
[48:45] of certiorari and the court
quashed the ordinance. It said
judgment not to be recorded.
[48:49] quashed the ordinance. It said
judgment not to be recorded.
Were I believe this board
[48:51] judgment not to be recorded.
Were I believe this board
should stop and consider what
[48:52] Were I believe this board
should stop and consider what
has happened here. Pine Ridge
[48:56] should stop and consider what
has happened here. Pine Ridge
residents have spent hundreds
[48:57] has happened here. Pine Ridge
residents have spent hundreds
of thousands of dollars of our
[49:00] residents have spent hundreds
of thousands of dollars of our
own money simply to obtain a
[49:02] of thousands of dollars of our
own money simply to obtain a
court ruling requiring that
[49:04] own money simply to obtain a
court ruling requiring that
the lawful process be
[49:04] court ruling requiring that
the lawful process be
followed. Now we face the
[49:08] the lawful process be
followed. Now we face the
possibility that our own tax
[49:10] followed. Now we face the
possibility that our own tax
dollars will be used against
[49:11] possibility that our own tax
dollars will be used against
us to challenge the very
[49:13] dollars will be used against
us to challenge the very
decision we had to pay
[49:14] us to challenge the very
decision we had to pay
privately to obtain. At some
[49:19] decision we had to pay
privately to obtain. At some
point commissioners, the
[49:19] privately to obtain. At some
point commissioners, the
people who live in this
[49:20] point commissioners, the
people who live in this
community. Have to be heard.
[49:26] people who live in this
community. Have to be heard.
Residents who raise legitimate
[49:27] community. Have to be heard.
Residents who raise legitimate
concerns about their
[49:28] Residents who raise legitimate
concerns about their
neighborhoods should not
[49:29] concerns about their
neighborhoods should not
simply be dismissed as and
[49:32] neighborhoods should not
simply be dismissed as and
then be standing in the way of
[49:32] simply be dismissed as and
then be standing in the way of
development. We are
[49:35] then be standing in the way of
development. We are
homeowners, we’re taxpayers.
[49:37] development. We are
homeowners, we’re taxpayers.
We are voters and we are
[49:40] homeowners, we’re taxpayers.
We are voters and we are
investors in Citrus County. We
[49:43] We are voters and we are
investors in Citrus County. We
built our lives here. We
[49:44] investors in Citrus County. We
built our lives here. We
invested our savings here. Our
[49:47] built our lives here. We
invested our savings here. Our
homes are often our largest
[49:48] invested our savings here. Our
homes are often our largest
financial asset. When
[49:50] homes are often our largest
financial asset. When
decisions are made that
[49:53] financial asset. When
decisions are made that
fundamentally alter or our
[49:55] decisions are made that
fundamentally alter or our
stab wish community. The
[49:57] fundamentally alter or our
stab wish community. The
people who already live here
[49:58] stab wish community. The
people who already live here
deserve a meaningful seat at
[49:59] people who already live here
deserve a meaningful seat at
the table. We’re like county
[50:02] deserve a meaningful seat at
the table. We’re like county
commissioners to represent us
[50:06] the table. We’re like county
commissioners to represent us
and to safeguard the laws and
[50:06] commissioners to represent us
and to safeguard the laws and
planning framework upon which
[50:09] and to safeguard the laws and
planning framework upon which
our communities rely on. We
[50:11] planning framework upon which
our communities rely on. We
should not have to hire
[50:13] our communities rely on. We
should not have to hire
attorneys and spend hundreds
[50:14] should not have to hire
attorneys and spend hundreds
of thousands of dollars just
[50:16] attorneys and spend hundreds
of thousands of dollars just
to make our voices matter and
[50:18] of thousands of dollars just
to make our voices matter and
to protect our community. We
[50:20] to make our voices matter and
to protect our community. We
know growth will happen.
[50:22] to protect our community. We
know growth will happen.
Property rights matter.
[50:24] know growth will happen.
Property rights matter.
Development matters. think
[50:28] Property rights matter.
Development matters. think
minutes But the people who are
[50:33] Development matters. think
minutes But the people who are
already called Citrus hold on
[50:35] minutes But the people who are
already called Citrus hold on
one to you. Have you have to
[50:36] already called Citrus hold on
one to you. Have you have to
state that that you have a
[50:38] one to you. Have you have to
state that that you have a
letter on file so I can check
[50:39] state that that you have a
letter on file so I can check
with I did it on my.
[50:42] letter on file so I can check
with I did it on my.
>> given minutes. So if you
[50:44] with I did it on my.
>> given minutes. So if you
have a letter and file, please
[50:47] >> given minutes. So if you
have a letter and file, please
state that so I can always
[50:48] have a letter and file, please
state that so I can always
check her. If not, I don’t
[50:48] state that so I can always
check her. If not, I don’t
know if you’re speaking it for
[50:49] check her. If not, I don’t
know if you’re speaking it for
yourself or for. An
[50:51] know if you’re speaking it for
yourself or for. An
organization for it. Tumor
[50:53] yourself or for. An
organization for it. Tumor
Thank you. But the people who
[50:58] organization for it. Tumor
Thank you. But the people who
already call Citrus County
[50:59] Thank you. But the people who
already call Citrus County
home should matter too. Our
[51:01] already call Citrus County
home should matter too. Our
property values matter. Our
[51:05] home should matter too. Our
property values matter. Our
communities matter our way of
[51:07] property values matter. Our
communities matter our way of
life matters in our voices to
[51:10] communities matter our way of
life matters in our voices to
serve respect.
[51:10] life matters in our voices to
serve respect.
>> The court has now spoken
[51:11] serve respect.
>> The court has now spoken
clearly. Do not spend
[51:15] >> The court has now spoken
clearly. Do not spend
additional taxpayer money
[51:17] clearly. Do not spend
additional taxpayer money
continuing this fight except
[51:19] additional taxpayer money
continuing this fight except
the ruling do not appeal.
[51:22] continuing this fight except
the ruling do not appeal.
Allow the parties involved an
[51:24] the ruling do not appeal.
Allow the parties involved an
opportunity to find a lawful
[51:26] Allow the parties involved an
opportunity to find a lawful
and lasting solution. And show
[51:29] opportunity to find a lawful
and lasting solution. And show
the residents of Citrus County
[51:30] and lasting solution. And show
the residents of Citrus County
that when we speak. Our
[51:32] the residents of Citrus County
that when we speak. Our
elected officials are willing
[51:33] that when we speak. Our
elected officials are willing
to listen. Thank you. Thank
[51:35] elected officials are willing
to listen. Thank you. Thank
you.
[51:36] to listen. Thank you. Thank
you.
>> Next, Speaker.
[51:50] you.
>> Next, Speaker.
>> when I was calling all
[51:51] >> Next, Speaker.
>> when I was calling all
those numbers, you know what I
[51:53] >> when I was calling all
those numbers, you know what I
heard? 95.
[51:58] those numbers, you know what I
heard? 95.
>> Afternoon, my name’s
[51:59] heard? 95.
>> Afternoon, my name’s
Clipper Taos ski. Here we are
[52:01] >> Afternoon, my name’s
Clipper Taos ski. Here we are
again, in hindsight. We could
[52:05] Clipper Taos ski. Here we are
again, in hindsight. We could
have wondered what was there
[52:07] again, in hindsight. We could
have wondered what was there
another path? Pine Ridge
[52:09] have wondered what was there
another path? Pine Ridge
developers, Pine Ridge United.
[52:11] another path? Pine Ridge
developers, Pine Ridge United.
None of them seem to want to
[52:12] developers, Pine Ridge United.
None of them seem to want to
work together. We have a
[52:15] None of them seem to want to
work together. We have a
situation left over from the
[52:19] work together. We have a
situation left over from the
Deltona bankruptcy. The
[52:20] situation left over from the
Deltona bankruptcy. The
property zoned residential,
[52:20] Deltona bankruptcy. The
property zoned residential,
but a judge says that you
[52:21] property zoned residential,
but a judge says that you
can’t have residential homes.
[52:23] but a judge says that you
can’t have residential homes.
>> Maybe not in so many words,
[52:23] can’t have residential homes.
>> Maybe not in so many words,
but he did overturn your
[52:24] >> Maybe not in so many words,
but he did overturn your
approval. We have a
[52:29] but he did overturn your
approval. We have a
recreational overlay, aka, a
[52:30] approval. We have a
recreational overlay, aka, a
site plan that allows for golf
[52:30] recreational overlay, aka, a
site plan that allows for golf
course. Even though it has
[52:34] site plan that allows for golf
course. Even though it has
been stated here that the golf
[52:35] course. Even though it has
been stated here that the golf
course was the main intent. It
[52:39] been stated here that the golf
course was the main intent. It
was not a recreational
[52:41] course was the main intent. It
was not a recreational
overlay. Ironically, we could
[52:43] was not a recreational
overlay. Ironically, we could
have a go-cart track there as
[52:46] overlay. Ironically, we could
have a go-cart track there as
recreation or campground. I
[52:47] have a go-cart track there as
recreation or campground. I
don’t think any of these
[52:48] recreation or campground. I
don’t think any of these
people living on a golf course
[52:49] don’t think any of these
people living on a golf course
would like that version of it.
[52:51] people living on a golf course
would like that version of it.
Pine Ridge P always say they
[52:53] would like that version of it.
Pine Ridge P always say they
want to call golf course, but
[52:53] Pine Ridge P always say they
want to call golf course, but
they don’t want to buy a golf
[52:54] want to call golf course, but
they don’t want to buy a golf
course. The golf course
[52:58] they don’t want to buy a golf
course. The golf course
businesses can survive and
[53:00] course. The golf course
businesses can survive and
have failed 8 times. The
[53:01] businesses can survive and
have failed 8 times. The
developer wants to change the
[53:02] have failed 8 times. The
developer wants to change the
site plan, aka the overlay to
[53:03] developer wants to change the
site plan, aka the overlay to
homes on residential property.
[53:08] site plan, aka the overlay to
homes on residential property.
Pine Ridge P O and the Dell
[53:08] homes on residential property.
Pine Ridge P O and the Dell
available developer can seem
[53:09] Pine Ridge P O and the Dell
available developer can seem
to agree. We can’t make
[53:10] available developer can seem
to agree. We can’t make
everybody happy. So what to
[53:12] to agree. We can’t make
everybody happy. So what to
do? They’re making you the
[53:14] everybody happy. So what to
do? They’re making you the
board of county commissioners
[53:15] do? They’re making you the
board of county commissioners
be the parents trying to rein
[53:16] board of county commissioners
be the parents trying to rein
in the children. My thoughts
[53:17] be the parents trying to rein
in the children. My thoughts
on this. As a consultant and
[53:22] in the children. My thoughts
on this. As a consultant and
procedures and passed and
[53:22] on this. As a consultant and
procedures and passed and
other things. I see I read the
[53:29] procedures and passed and
other things. I see I read the
judge’s decision and I agree
[53:29] other things. I see I read the
judge’s decision and I agree
with everything except the
[53:31] judge’s decision and I agree
with everything except the
cautious part of that. It
[53:32] with everything except the
cautious part of that. It
didn’t seem to make sense. You
[53:33] cautious part of that. It
didn’t seem to make sense. You
have a dri. Have you really
[53:37] didn’t seem to make sense. You
have a dri. Have you really
looked into what that means?
[53:40] have a dri. Have you really
looked into what that means?
Residential zoning,
[53:43] looked into what that means?
Residential zoning,
residential homes. How is
[53:44] Residential zoning,
residential homes. How is
there a conflict? The only
[53:44] residential homes. How is
there a conflict? The only
conflict is in the overlay,
[53:47] there a conflict? The only
conflict is in the overlay,
aka a site plan. Pine Ridge
[53:50] conflict is in the overlay,
aka a site plan. Pine Ridge
itself has an overlay, a site
[53:52] aka a site plan. Pine Ridge
itself has an overlay, a site
plan that allows for homes.
[53:54] itself has an overlay, a site
plan that allows for homes.
Holmes Holmes. Where’s the
[53:57] plan that allows for homes.
Holmes Holmes. Where’s the
discrepancy? So my only I
[54:01] Holmes Holmes. Where’s the
discrepancy? So my only I
don’t really. I’m not really
[54:05] discrepancy? So my only I
don’t really. I’m not really
for either side. And those of
[54:06] don’t really. I’m not really
for either side. And those of
you who know me well, know
[54:08] for either side. And those of
you who know me well, know
that I’m person of common
[54:11] you who know me well, know
that I’m person of common
sense and I address things in
[54:11] that I’m person of common
sense and I address things in
a common sense way. But I
[54:16] sense and I address things in
a common sense way. But I
really caution you to do your
[54:17] a common sense way. But I
really caution you to do your
due diligence when you’re
[54:18] really caution you to do your
due diligence when you’re
trying to look at this. Is it
[54:19] due diligence when you’re
trying to look at this. Is it
really? And air? Because the
[54:24] trying to look at this. Is it
really? And air? Because the
way I see is it’s a
[54:26] really? And air? Because the
way I see is it’s a
discrepancy. You need to
[54:27] way I see is it’s a
discrepancy. You need to
satisfy just Griffin. See
[54:28] discrepancy. You need to
satisfy just Griffin. See
that. The judge pointed out
[54:28] satisfy just Griffin. See
that. The judge pointed out
and then resubmit it. This may
[54:32] that. The judge pointed out
and then resubmit it. This may
simply be regarded as a
[54:33] and then resubmit it. This may
simply be regarded as a
clerical error. Because the
[54:36] simply be regarded as a
clerical error. Because the
overlay on a residential zoned
[54:39] clerical error. Because the
overlay on a residential zoned
property. 4 homes. I don’t see
[54:42] overlay on a residential zoned
property. 4 homes. I don’t see
where it happened. So I’m just
[54:43] property. 4 homes. I don’t see
where it happened. So I’m just
a cautionary. Do your due
[54:47] where it happened. So I’m just
a cautionary. Do your due
diligence. Make sure you’re
[54:48] a cautionary. Do your due
diligence. Make sure you’re
not just going along with that
[54:51] diligence. Make sure you’re
not just going along with that
because there is a lot of
[54:52] not just going along with that
because there is a lot of
division here. We need to kind
[54:53] because there is a lot of
division here. We need to kind
and this division in Pine
[54:56] division here. We need to kind
and this division in Pine
Ridge. We need us as a
[54:57] and this division in Pine
Ridge. We need us as a
satisfactory solution that
[54:58] Ridge. We need us as a
satisfactory solution that
everybody can agree with.
[55:00] satisfactory solution that
everybody can agree with.
Thank you. Thank comments.
[55:04] everybody can agree with.
Thank you. Thank comments.
We’re getting a little
[55:05] Thank you. Thank comments.
We’re getting a little
restless. And when the speaker
[55:08] We’re getting a little
restless. And when the speaker
speaking, if you all are
[55:08] restless. And when the speaker
speaking, if you all are
talking back there, it’s
[55:09] speaking, if you all are
talking back there, it’s
difficult for us to
[55:10] talking back there, it’s
difficult for us to
concentrate on the speaker.
[55:11] difficult for us to
concentrate on the speaker.
So.
[55:11] concentrate on the speaker.
So.
>> Please remember to they’re
[55:16] So.
>> Please remember to they’re
very quietly whisperer. Just
[55:17] >> Please remember to they’re
very quietly whisperer. Just
please keep silent. Okay.
[55:17] very quietly whisperer. Just
please keep silent. Okay.
Next, speaker. Anyone else
[55:21] please keep silent. Okay.
Next, speaker. Anyone else
would like to speak on this
[55:22] Next, speaker. Anyone else
would like to speak on this
matter. person you could it
[55:35] would like to speak on this
matter. person you could it
out afterwards. Just state
[55:36] matter. person you could it
out afterwards. Just state
your name and where you’re
[55:37] out afterwards. Just state
your name and where you’re
from. 3 minute Yes, perfect.
[55:40] your name and where you’re
from. 3 minute Yes, perfect.
>> Good afternoon. My name is
[55:42] from. 3 minute Yes, perfect.
>> Good afternoon. My name is
Mario. Leon. I moved to the
[55:43] >> Good afternoon. My name is
Mario. Leon. I moved to the
Pine Ridge area about 10 years
[55:44] Mario. Leon. I moved to the
Pine Ridge area about 10 years
ago. I owned property here. My
[55:47] Pine Ridge area about 10 years
ago. I owned property here. My
parents also moved. He retired
[55:48] ago. I owned property here. My
parents also moved. He retired
here. So now I call Citrus
[55:50] parents also moved. He retired
here. So now I call Citrus
County my home. I’ve seen a
[55:51] here. So now I call Citrus
County my home. I’ve seen a
lot of you involved in the
[55:56] County my home. I’ve seen a
lot of you involved in the
community looking to continue
[55:58] lot of you involved in the
community looking to continue
seats. I recognize this venue
[56:01] community looking to continue
seats. I recognize this venue
the last time that I was here
[56:02] seats. I recognize this venue
the last time that I was here
was about 2 years ago that
[56:05] the last time that I was here
was about 2 years ago that
there was a tornado warning.
[56:07] was about 2 years ago that
there was a tornado warning.
Schools were let out pretty
[56:08] there was a tornado warning.
Schools were let out pretty
early we had what 3 floors,
[56:11] Schools were let out pretty
early we had what 3 floors,
additional. Court rooms filled
[56:15] early we had what 3 floors,
additional. Court rooms filled
with residents adamant about.
[56:17] additional. Court rooms filled
with residents adamant about.
How to proceed with this with
[56:21] with residents adamant about.
How to proceed with this with
this decision. I’m surprised
[56:22] How to proceed with this with
this decision. I’m surprised
to find myself here again, 2
[56:23] this decision. I’m surprised
to find myself here again, 2
and a half years later after
[56:26] to find myself here again, 2
and a half years later after
the population spoke pretty
[56:27] and a half years later after
the population spoke pretty
nicely. We elected. You, folks
[56:31] the population spoke pretty
nicely. We elected. You, folks
as our voices and
[56:31] nicely. We elected. You, folks
as our voices and
representatives in terms of
[56:33] as our voices and
representatives in terms of
how we wanted everything to
[56:34] representatives in terms of
how we wanted everything to
be. I guess to be stuart’s of
[56:38] how we wanted everything to
be. I guess to be stuart’s of
our community. And frankly,
[56:39] be. I guess to be stuart’s of
our community. And frankly,
I’m disappointed. That we have
[56:41] our community. And frankly,
I’m disappointed. That we have
to be here again today. It’s
[56:43] I’m disappointed. That we have
to be here again today. It’s
difficult for a lot of us to
[56:44] to be here again today. It’s
difficult for a lot of us to
attend during a weekday. A lot
[56:49] difficult for a lot of us to
attend during a weekday. A lot
of people work. Some of us are
[56:49] attend during a weekday. A lot
of people work. Some of us are
retired. Those the king here.
[56:51] of people work. Some of us are
retired. Those the king here.
Thank you for attending. But I
[56:54] retired. Those the king here.
Thank you for attending. But I
think the question is very,
[56:55] Thank you for attending. But I
think the question is very,
very simple. There are
[56:56] think the question is very,
very simple. There are
alternatives to this property.
[56:59] very simple. There are
alternatives to this property.
It doesn’t have to be from 85
[57:00] alternatives to this property.
It doesn’t have to be from 85
to 80. I’m not sure how 5
[57:01] It doesn’t have to be from 85
to 80. I’m not sure how 5
houses in offense switches.
[57:05] to 80. I’m not sure how 5
houses in offense switches.
Very much. You folks know the
[57:07] houses in offense switches.
Very much. You folks know the
exact details as the residents
[57:09] Very much. You folks know the
exact details as the residents
in terms of what the
[57:10] exact details as the residents
in terms of what the
negotiations have been back
[57:11] in terms of what the
negotiations have been back
and forth. But to me, it’s
[57:13] negotiations have been back
and forth. But to me, it’s
very simple. This is about
[57:13] and forth. But to me, it’s
very simple. This is about
money. And influence. We’ve
[57:18] very simple. This is about
money. And influence. We’ve
elected you to represent us.
[57:21] money. And influence. We’ve
elected you to represent us.
We’ve spoken in terms of
[57:24] elected you to represent us.
We’ve spoken in terms of
United Community, we spend our
[57:25] We’ve spoken in terms of
United Community, we spend our
own money from our association
[57:28] United Community, we spend our
own money from our association
to stand up for what we think
[57:28] own money from our association
to stand up for what we think
is right. I see some of you
[57:32] to stand up for what we think
is right. I see some of you
campaigning and pushing issues
[57:33] is right. I see some of you
campaigning and pushing issues
forward and we take notice of
[57:34] campaigning and pushing issues
forward and we take notice of
the ones that do things that
[57:36] forward and we take notice of
the ones that do things that
make sense to us and don’t. So
[57:38] the ones that do things that
make sense to us and don’t. So
to me, this is more than well.
[57:40] make sense to us and don’t. So
to me, this is more than well.
This might be a clerical error
[57:43] to me, this is more than well.
This might be a clerical error
or, you know, be careful what
[57:43] This might be a clerical error
or, you know, be careful what
your decisions are property in
[57:47] or, you know, be careful what
your decisions are property in
the area is at a price because
[57:49] your decisions are property in
the area is at a price because
of the community. You can’t
[57:53] the area is at a price because
of the community. You can’t
buy an acre for $5,000 build a
[57:54] of the community. You can’t
buy an acre for $5,000 build a
house that you want. Ad
[57:55] buy an acre for $5,000 build a
house that you want. Ad
additional house is going to
[57:56] house that you want. Ad
additional house is going to
appreciate values for
[57:56] additional house is going to
appreciate values for
everybody. I’m not that’s a
[58:00] appreciate values for
everybody. I’m not that’s a
fact. A finance major, I
[58:02] everybody. I’m not that’s a
fact. A finance major, I
studied at a top university
[58:03] fact. A finance major, I
studied at a top university
and that’s what it For
[58:06] studied at a top university
and that’s what it For
everybody that’s moved here
[58:07] and that’s what it For
everybody that’s moved here
and counts on you to look for
[58:08] everybody that’s moved here
and counts on you to look for
our best interests up. We’re
[58:10] and counts on you to look for
our best interests up. We’re
counting on you. And we were
[58:14] our best interests up. We’re
counting on you. And we were
taking notice. So please,
[58:14] counting on you. And we were
taking notice. So please,
respectfully, I asked that the
[58:18] taking notice. So please,
respectfully, I asked that the
original decision of 5,
[58:19] respectfully, I asked that the
original decision of 5,
nothing. 5 county
[58:20] original decision of 5,
nothing. 5 county
commissioners for end Roe for
[58:22] nothing. 5 county
commissioners for end Roe for
that plan to move forward with
[58:23] commissioners for end Roe for
that plan to move forward with
the construction be upheld.
[58:24] that plan to move forward with
the construction be upheld.
I’m not sure how the master
[58:27] the construction be upheld.
I’m not sure how the master
plan or how the new proposal
[58:28] I’m not sure how the master
plan or how the new proposal
switched. But I respectfully
[58:30] plan or how the new proposal
switched. But I respectfully
ask that on behalf of myself,
[58:32] switched. But I respectfully
ask that on behalf of myself,
my parents and all of our
[58:33] ask that on behalf of myself,
my parents and all of our
residents. Thank you. Thank
[58:34] my parents and all of our
residents. Thank you. Thank
you.
[58:34] residents. Thank you. Thank
you.
>> Remember to fill out that
[58:35] you.
>> Remember to fill out that
card next? Speaker?
[58:54] >> Good afternoon. My my name
[58:57] >> Good afternoon. My my name
is Mark we live pink popping
[58:58] >> Good afternoon. My my name
is Mark we live pink popping
driving. I’m rich. With great
[59:01] is Mark we live pink popping
driving. I’m rich. With great
power comes great.
[59:02] driving. I’m rich. With great
power comes great.
Responsibility. We all know
[59:07] power comes great.
Responsibility. We all know
the super story. The superhero
[59:07] Responsibility. We all know
the super story. The superhero
stories. Someone is given
[59:09] the super story. The superhero
stories. Someone is given
extraordinary power and
[59:11] stories. Someone is given
extraordinary power and
suddenly that person has the
[59:12] extraordinary power and
suddenly that person has the
ability to change the course
[59:13] suddenly that person has the
ability to change the course
of events, not just for
[59:14] ability to change the course
of events, not just for
themselves, but for everyone
[59:15] of events, not just for
themselves, but for everyone
around them. But there’s
[59:16] themselves, but for everyone
around them. But there’s
always a catch with great
[59:19] around them. But there’s
always a catch with great
power comes great.
[59:19] always a catch with great
power comes great.
Responsibility. In our county.
[59:22] power comes great.
Responsibility. In our county.
We don’t have 5 superheroes
[59:24] Responsibility. In our county.
We don’t have 5 superheroes
flying around and cakes. We
[59:26] We don’t have 5 superheroes
flying around and cakes. We
have something much more real
[59:29] flying around and cakes. We
have something much more real
and in many ways, much more
[59:30] have something much more real
and in many ways, much more
powerful. We have 5 county
[59:31] and in many ways, much more
powerful. We have 5 county
commissioners. 5 individuals
[59:35] powerful. We have 5 county
commissioners. 5 individuals
who are given the incredible
[59:36] commissioners. 5 individuals
who are given the incredible
amount of power and influence
[59:36] who are given the incredible
amount of power and influence
over the future of our county.
[59:40] amount of power and influence
over the future of our county.
5 people who can make
[59:41] over the future of our county.
5 people who can make
decisions that affect our
[59:42] 5 people who can make
decisions that affect our
taxes or property values. Our
[59:44] decisions that affect our
taxes or property values. Our
roads, our neighborhoods, our
[59:46] taxes or property values. Our
roads, our neighborhoods, our
growth, our quality of life
[59:48] roads, our neighborhoods, our
growth, our quality of life
and ultimately the direction
[59:49] growth, our quality of life
and ultimately the direction
our county takes for years to
[59:49] and ultimately the direction
our county takes for years to
come. And here’s the important
[59:52] our county takes for years to
come. And here’s the important
part. We give them that power.
[59:58] come. And here’s the important
part. We give them that power.
We vote them into the position
[59:59] part. We give them that power.
We vote them into the position
into those positions. We don’t
[1:00:01] We vote them into the position
into those positions. We don’t
elect them to represent
[1:00:02] into those positions. We don’t
elect them to represent
developers. We don’t elect
[1:00:05] elect them to represent
developers. We don’t elect
them to represent outside
[1:00:05] developers. We don’t elect
them to represent outside
interests. We like to
[1:00:09] them to represent outside
interests. We like to
represent the taxpayers and
[1:00:10] interests. We like to
represent the taxpayers and
the residents of this county.
[1:00:13] represent the taxpayers and
the residents of this county.
We trust them with our voices.
[1:00:14] the residents of this county.
We trust them with our voices.
We trust them with our
[1:00:15] We trust them with our voices.
We trust them with our
concerns. We trust them with
[1:00:16] We trust them with our
concerns. We trust them with
our property values. We trust
[1:00:18] concerns. We trust them with
our property values. We trust
them with our communities. And
[1:00:20] our property values. We trust
them with our communities. And
we trust them to listen. To
[1:00:22] them with our communities. And
we trust them to listen. To
what their constituents want
[1:00:24] we trust them to listen. To
what their constituents want
and need to make decisions
[1:00:26] what their constituents want
and need to make decisions
based on the best interests of
[1:00:27] and need to make decisions
based on the best interests of
the people. They were elected
[1:00:28] based on the best interests of
the people. They were elected
to serve. Now here’s where the
[1:00:31] the people. They were elected
to serve. Now here’s where the
super euro analogy really
[1:00:34] to serve. Now here’s where the
super euro analogy really
matters. Having power doesn’t
[1:00:35] super euro analogy really
matters. Having power doesn’t
make someone a hero. How you
[1:00:38] matters. Having power doesn’t
make someone a hero. How you
use the power does a superhero
[1:00:41] make someone a hero. How you
use the power does a superhero
can use abilities to protect
[1:00:43] use the power does a superhero
can use abilities to protect
people or they can use those
[1:00:44] can use abilities to protect
people or they can use those
abilities for themselves. The
[1:00:47] people or they can use those
abilities for themselves. The
same is true of anyone sitting
[1:00:48] abilities for themselves. The
same is true of anyone sitting
on the county commission. They
[1:00:50] same is true of anyone sitting
on the county commission. They
can use their position to
[1:00:51] on the county commission. They
can use their position to
listen to their constituents,
[1:00:53] can use their position to
listen to their constituents,
protect the interest of the
[1:00:55] listen to their constituents,
protect the interest of the
taxpayers and make decisions
[1:00:57] protect the interest of the
taxpayers and make decisions
with the long-term well-being
[1:00:58] taxpayers and make decisions
with the long-term well-being
of the county in mind. Or they
[1:01:01] with the long-term well-being
of the county in mind. Or they
can use the power in ways that
[1:01:03] of the county in mind. Or they
can use the power in ways that
leave the constituents
[1:01:04] can use the power in ways that
leave the constituents
wondering. You really
[1:01:08] leave the constituents
wondering. You really
representing because every
[1:01:10] wondering. You really
representing because every
vote has consequences. Every
[1:01:12] representing because every
vote has consequences. Every
decision can change the
[1:01:12] vote has consequences. Every
decision can change the
direction of our Kentucky
[1:01:13] decision can change the
direction of our Kentucky
County. every commissioner has
[1:01:16] direction of our Kentucky
County. every commissioner has
the opportunity to show us
[1:01:18] County. every commissioner has
the opportunity to show us
what kind of public servant
[1:01:18] the opportunity to show us
what kind of public servant
they intend to be. When we
[1:01:22] what kind of public servant
they intend to be. When we
walk into that voting booth
[1:01:23] they intend to be. When we
walk into that voting booth
where not simply choosing a
[1:01:23] walk into that voting booth
where not simply choosing a
name, we’re choosing who we
[1:01:25] where not simply choosing a
name, we’re choosing who we
trust with the power. And once
[1:01:28] name, we’re choosing who we
trust with the power. And once
again, we give that power. We
[1:01:30] trust with the power. And once
again, we give that power. We
have every right to expect
[1:01:32] again, we give that power. We
have every right to expect
them to use it responsibly to
[1:01:34] have every right to expect
them to use it responsibly to
remember who put them there to
[1:01:35] them to use it responsibly to
remember who put them there to
remember who they work for.
[1:01:38] remember who put them there to
remember who they work for.
And to remember that public
[1:01:38] remember who they work for.
And to remember that public
offices and about what you can
[1:01:40] And to remember that public
offices and about what you can
do because you have the power.
[1:01:43] offices and about what you can
do because you have the power.
It’s about what you choose to
[1:01:45] do because you have the power.
It’s about what you choose to
do with the power people have
[1:01:45] It’s about what you choose to
do with the power people have
entrusted you with. So perhaps
[1:01:48] do with the power people have
entrusted you with. So perhaps
the question is not who has
[1:01:50] entrusted you with. So perhaps
the question is not who has
the power? We already know the
[1:01:51] the question is not who has
the power? We already know the
answer. The question is how
[1:01:53] the power? We already know the
answer. The question is how
will they use it?
[1:01:56] answer. The question is how
will they use it?
>> Thank play. Thank you.
[1:01:59] will they use it?
>> Thank play. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last call.
[1:02:06] >> Thank play. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last call.
Okay. close the public
[1:02:07] >> Next, Speaker. Last call.
Okay. close the public
portion. For public comment.
[1:02:10] Okay. close the public
portion. For public comment.
Pay board.
[1:02:15] portion. For public comment.
Pay board.
>> I just want to remind
[1:02:16] Pay board.
>> I just want to remind
everyone here and the board
[1:02:17] >> I just want to remind
everyone here and the board
members, we’re not re trying
[1:02:20] everyone here and the board
members, we’re not re trying
application. We are deciding
[1:02:24] members, we’re not re trying
application. We are deciding
whether we’re going to put
[1:02:26] application. We are deciding
whether we’re going to put
money in pursuing lawsuit.
[1:02:30] whether we’re going to put
money in pursuing lawsuit.
Obviously, I’ve put the
[1:02:30] money in pursuing lawsuit.
Obviously, I’ve put the
motion. I do not feel like we
[1:02:31] Obviously, I’ve put the
motion. I do not feel like we
should pursue a lawsuit.
[1:02:35] motion. I do not feel like we
should pursue a lawsuit.
Whatever Pine Ridge on either
[1:02:36] should pursue a lawsuit.
Whatever Pine Ridge on either
side does from there. That is
[1:02:39] Whatever Pine Ridge on either
side does from there. That is
going to be Pine ridge is
[1:02:40] side does from there. That is
going to be Pine ridge is
responsibility. Commissioner
[1:02:44] going to be Pine ridge is
responsibility. Commissioner
tonight.
[1:02:45] responsibility. Commissioner
tonight.
>> Thank you all. Go ahead and
[1:02:46] tonight.
>> Thank you all. Go ahead and
chime I agree, actually, with
[1:02:49] >> Thank you all. Go ahead and
chime I agree, actually, with
most of the speakers and the
[1:02:50] chime I agree, actually, with
most of the speakers and the
we should not spend another
[1:02:50] most of the speakers and the
we should not spend another
dollar on this
[1:02:54] we should not spend another
dollar on this
>> I’m adamantly opposed to
[1:02:56] dollar on this
>> I’m adamantly opposed to
the county spending money on
[1:02:59] >> I’m adamantly opposed to
the county spending money on
on lawsuits. The seemed to
[1:03:01] the county spending money on
on lawsuits. The seemed to
just drag on and on and Been
[1:03:02] on lawsuits. The seemed to
just drag on and on and Been
very clear about that for many
[1:03:03] just drag on and on and Been
very clear about that for many
years sitting up here. And
[1:03:05] very clear about that for many
years sitting up here. And
that hasn’t changed for this
[1:03:06] years sitting up here. And
that hasn’t changed for this
or with this. However, I do
[1:03:09] that hasn’t changed for this
or with this. However, I do
think the judge got it wrong.
[1:03:13] or with this. However, I do
think the judge got it wrong.
I think we we do have a text
[1:03:15] think the judge got it wrong.
I think we we do have a text
amendment that we need to
[1:03:16] I think we we do have a text
amendment that we need to
address in our L D C and
[1:03:18] amendment that we need to
address in our L D C and
hopefully we will be doing
[1:03:20] address in our L D C and
hopefully we will be doing
that very quickly. I’m curious
[1:03:25] hopefully we will be doing
that very quickly. I’m curious
as how we’re going to go about
[1:03:30] that very quickly. I’m curious
as how we’re going to go about
curing previously modified ER
[1:03:34] as how we’re going to go about
curing previously modified ER
eyes without spending another
[1:03:37] curing previously modified ER
eyes without spending another
dollar on on attorneys fees. I
[1:03:39] eyes without spending another
dollar on on attorneys fees. I
would suggest that we the
[1:03:43] dollar on on attorneys fees. I
would suggest that we the
county join as a cold
[1:03:45] would suggest that we the
county join as a cold
petitioner should the
[1:03:47] county join as a cold
petitioner should the
applicant decided to appeal
[1:03:48] petitioner should the
applicant decided to appeal
this provided the county would
[1:03:52] applicant decided to appeal
this provided the county would
not be exposed to any legal
[1:03:56] this provided the county would
not be exposed to any legal
fees for the prevailing party
[1:03:58] not be exposed to any legal
fees for the prevailing party
or any additional fees, then I
[1:04:02] fees for the prevailing party
or any additional fees, then I
think I think if the applicant
[1:04:04] or any additional fees, then I
think I think if the applicant
decides to appeal, I would the
[1:04:06] think I think if the applicant
decides to appeal, I would the
county being a co petitioner.
[1:04:09] decides to appeal, I would the
county being a co petitioner.
So for that reason, I will be
[1:04:09] county being a co petitioner.
So for that reason, I will be
supporting your motion if it
[1:04:13] So for that reason, I will be
supporting your motion if it
passes. So be it. If it
[1:04:13] supporting your motion if it
passes. So be it. If it
doesn’t pass, the number
[1:04:14] passes. So be it. If it
doesn’t pass, the number
appeared to make a second
[1:04:14] doesn’t pass, the number
appeared to make a second
motion. Madam Chair.
[1:04:20] appeared to make a second
motion. Madam Chair.
>> Commissioner Davis, I
[1:04:21] motion. Madam Chair.
>> Commissioner Davis, I
concur with Commissioner
[1:04:22] >> Commissioner Davis, I
concur with Commissioner
Canard. I think that that is
[1:04:23] concur with Commissioner
Canard. I think that that is
the lies. This course of
[1:04:23] Canard. I think that that is
the lies. This course of
action. There is. A legal
[1:04:27] the lies. This course of
action. There is. A legal
precedent with the Dr with
[1:04:27] action. There is. A legal
precedent with the Dr with
oldie, our eyes. There are
[1:04:30] precedent with the Dr with
oldie, our eyes. There are
going to imperil home-rule. I
[1:04:32] oldie, our eyes. There are
going to imperil home-rule. I
believe and I’m adamantly
[1:04:34] going to imperil home-rule. I
believe and I’m adamantly
opposed to spending any
[1:04:35] believe and I’m adamantly
opposed to spending any
taxpayer dollars on this
[1:04:38] opposed to spending any
taxpayer dollars on this
again. And, you know, I
[1:04:40] taxpayer dollars on this
again. And, you know, I
appreciate you Mr. Scott here
[1:04:40] again. And, you know, I
appreciate you Mr. Scott here
service to the county don’t
[1:04:42] appreciate you Mr. Scott here
service to the county don’t
want to pay more bills that we
[1:04:43] service to the county don’t
want to pay more bills that we
don’t have to. Courts are not
[1:04:48] want to pay more bills that we
don’t have to. Courts are not
infallible. None of the 5 of
[1:04:49] don’t have to. Courts are not
infallible. None of the 5 of
us have a legal degree. you
[1:04:54] infallible. None of the 5 of
us have a legal degree. you
know, take that as a layman’s
[1:04:56] us have a legal degree. you
know, take that as a layman’s
opinion, but I I am with
[1:04:57] know, take that as a layman’s
opinion, but I I am with
commissioner Canard. I think
[1:04:57] opinion, but I I am with
commissioner Canard. I think
they got it wrong.
[1:05:01] commissioner Canard. I think
they got it wrong.
Commissioner base.
[1:05:06] they got it wrong.
Commissioner base.
>> I would like to hear from
[1:05:06] Commissioner base.
>> I would like to hear from
our county attorney apparently
[1:05:11] >> I would like to hear from
our county attorney apparently
were here today because we
[1:05:12] our county attorney apparently
were here today because we
have outside counsel here and
[1:05:13] were here today because we
have outside counsel here and
it appears that. There were
[1:05:19] have outside counsel here and
it appears that. There were
some concern. On this boat on
[1:05:24] it appears that. There were
some concern. On this boat on
how or where we’re going with
[1:05:25] some concern. On this boat on
how or where we’re going with
it. And that’s why you’re
[1:05:26] how or where we’re going with
it. And that’s why you’re
here. So it. Why are we here?
[1:05:28] it. And that’s why you’re
here. So it. Why are we here?
If if? We have outside counsel
[1:05:33] here. So it. Why are we here?
If if? We have outside counsel
here, did you feel that it’s
[1:05:34] If if? We have outside counsel
here, did you feel that it’s
necessary to pursue this? To
[1:05:37] here, did you feel that it’s
necessary to pursue this? To
cure any past votes.
[1:05:44] necessary to pursue this? To
cure any past votes.
>> Candle, I don’t know about.
[1:05:44] cure any past votes.
>> Candle, I don’t know about.
That’s the part you added at
[1:05:46] >> Candle, I don’t know about.
That’s the part you added at
the end in order to you only
[1:05:50] That’s the part you added at
the end in order to you only
have 30 days appeal a decision
[1:05:51] the end in order to you only
have 30 days appeal a decision
and there are in order to
[1:05:51] have 30 days appeal a decision
and there are in order to
appeal the decision. The board
[1:05:53] and there are in order to
appeal the decision. The board
has to give authority to
[1:05:57] appeal the decision. The board
has to give authority to
whichever lawyers representing
[1:05:58] has to give authority to
whichever lawyers representing
you on whether or not you want
[1:05:59] whichever lawyers representing
you on whether or not you want
to appeal it. So we had to
[1:06:00] you on whether or not you want
to appeal it. So we had to
come before you to ask you
[1:06:02] to appeal it. So we had to
come before you to ask you
what you wanted to do with the
[1:06:03] come before you to ask you
what you wanted to do with the
judge’s decision. I had no
[1:06:09] what you wanted to do with the
judge’s decision. I had no
conversation, no little
[1:06:12] judge’s decision. I had no
conversation, no little
perplexed by this because I
[1:06:17] conversation, no little
perplexed by this because I
raise the question about the
[1:06:18] perplexed by this because I
raise the question about the
dri versus the PD distinction
[1:06:20] raise the question about the
dri versus the PD distinction
on record and opposing counsel
[1:06:22] dri versus the PD distinction
on record and opposing counsel
answered and the court later
[1:06:25] on record and opposing counsel
answered and the court later
built. It’s really non that
[1:06:26] answered and the court later
built. It’s really non that
exact gap. And so when I
[1:06:27] built. It’s really non that
exact gap. And so when I
raised that question, was
[1:06:30] exact gap. And so when I
raised that question, was
there a section of the or the
[1:06:32] raised that question, was
there a section of the or the
comp plan that could have been
[1:06:33] there a section of the or the
comp plan that could have been
sighted at that time? If
[1:06:38] comp plan that could have been
sighted at that time? If
you’re asking I don’t know
[1:06:39] sighted at that time? If
you’re asking I don’t know
that this is the time or the
[1:06:41] you’re asking I don’t know
that this is the time or the
place to relitigate what
[1:06:42] that this is the time or the
place to relitigate what
happened at your meeting. You
[1:06:44] place to relitigate what
happened at your meeting. You
have a judge’s decision that
[1:06:45] happened at your meeting. You
have a judge’s decision that
says what you did was
[1:06:48] have a judge’s decision that
says what you did was
incorrect and now you guys
[1:06:49] says what you did was
incorrect and now you guys
have to decide whether you’re
[1:06:49] incorrect and now you guys
have to decide whether you’re
going to let that decision set
[1:06:51] have to decide whether you’re
going to let that decision set
or whether you’re going to
[1:06:52] going to let that decision set
or whether you’re going to
appeal that decision. I think
[1:06:55] or whether you’re going to
appeal that decision. I think
that if you hear from Mr,
[1:06:56] appeal that decision. I think
that if you hear from Mr,
Scott, he will tell you that
[1:06:57] that if you hear from Mr,
Scott, he will tell you that
he he does not agree with the
[1:06:58] Scott, he will tell you that
he he does not agree with the
judge’s decision either. He
[1:07:01] he he does not agree with the
judge’s decision either. He
can certainly correct me if
[1:07:04] judge’s decision either. He
can certainly correct me if
I’m wrong, but I don’t believe
[1:07:04] can certainly correct me if
I’m wrong, but I don’t believe
that he agrees with the
[1:07:05] I’m wrong, but I don’t believe
that he agrees with the
judge’s decision. So whether
[1:07:07] that he agrees with the
judge’s decision. So whether
or not you guys decide to
[1:07:09] judge’s decision. So whether
or not you guys decide to
appeal it. Those arguments, I
[1:07:11] or not you guys decide to
appeal it. Those arguments, I
assume he’ll make in the brief
[1:07:14] appeal it. Those arguments, I
assume he’ll make in the brief
when you if you decide to
[1:07:14] assume he’ll make in the brief
when you if you decide to
appeal it or not. Could we
[1:07:17] when you if you decide to
appeal it or not. Could we
hear from Mr? Scott been, of
[1:07:18] appeal it or not. Could we
hear from Mr? Scott been, of
course, you can. It was and
[1:07:21] hear from Mr? Scott been, of
course, you can. It was and
good afternoon.
[1:07:24] course, you can. It was and
good afternoon.
>> One of the benefits of the
[1:07:24] good afternoon.
>> One of the benefits of the
position I’m in is I don’t.
[1:07:28] >> One of the benefits of the
position I’m in is I don’t.
Have to consider the political
[1:07:30] position I’m in is I don’t.
Have to consider the political
issues that you all consider
[1:07:31] Have to consider the political
issues that you all consider
that is up for you to decide.
[1:07:34] issues that you all consider
that is up for you to decide.
But I try to confine my review
[1:07:38] that is up for you to decide.
But I try to confine my review
of an opinion or an order like
[1:07:38] But I try to confine my review
of an opinion or an order like
this truly to the the legally
[1:07:41] of an opinion or an order like
this truly to the the legally
of the order weather my
[1:07:43] this truly to the the legally
of the order weather my
opinion. pinion upon an
[1:07:47] of the order weather my
opinion. pinion upon an
opinion. But it whether in my
[1:07:48] opinion. pinion upon an
opinion. But it whether in my
opinion, it is supportable and
[1:07:52] opinion. But it whether in my
opinion, it is supportable and
it is my opinion that it’s not
[1:07:53] opinion, it is supportable and
it is my opinion that it’s not
a support of a ruling that the
[1:07:53] it is my opinion that it’s not
a support of a ruling that the
court has reached mainly
[1:07:56] a support of a ruling that the
court has reached mainly
really get right to the of it
[1:07:58] court has reached mainly
really get right to the of it
in that the court found. In
[1:08:02] really get right to the of it
in that the court found. In
many ways accepting the
[1:08:04] in that the court found. In
many ways accepting the
argument that was offered by
[1:08:06] many ways accepting the
argument that was offered by
Pine Ridge in the so repealed
[1:08:09] argument that was offered by
Pine Ridge in the so repealed
or the search to proceeding
[1:08:10] Pine Ridge in the so repealed
or the search to proceeding
that there was no, you’ll see
[1:08:12] or the search to proceeding
that there was no, you’ll see
the word express. Express
[1:08:17] that there was no, you’ll see
the word express. Express
process provided in the ldc or
[1:08:18] the word express. Express
process provided in the ldc or
indie county regulations too.
[1:08:20] process provided in the ldc or
indie county regulations too.
Dri. That is in the first
[1:08:23] indie county regulations too.
Dri. That is in the first
instance itself, not terribly
[1:08:27] Dri. That is in the first
instance itself, not terribly
accurate in that the
[1:08:30] instance itself, not terribly
accurate in that the
comprehensive plan provides
[1:08:32] accurate in that the
comprehensive plan provides
that major modifications to
[1:08:34] comprehensive plan provides
that major modifications to
existing developments are
[1:08:37] that major modifications to
existing developments are
handled through the Atlas
[1:08:37] existing developments are
handled through the Atlas
Amendment process. But more
[1:08:40] handled through the Atlas
Amendment process. But more
importantly or more
[1:08:44] Amendment process. But more
importantly or more
fundamentally in terms of the
[1:08:44] importantly or more
fundamentally in terms of the
law that applies in a case
[1:08:45] fundamentally in terms of the
law that applies in a case
like this is the law does not
[1:08:50] law that applies in a case
like this is the law does not
require that the board that
[1:08:51] like this is the law does not
require that the board that
the county excuse me have a
[1:08:55] require that the board that
the county excuse me have a
directly express explicit
[1:08:57] the county excuse me have a
directly express explicit
process. This says something
[1:08:58] directly express explicit
process. This says something
to the effect of. Dr Eyes
[1:09:01] process. This says something
to the effect of. Dr Eyes
shall be amended by X, Y Z
[1:09:05] to the effect of. Dr Eyes
shall be amended by X, Y Z
process. That simply is not a
[1:09:06] shall be amended by X, Y Z
process. That simply is not a
requirement that exists under
[1:09:07] process. That simply is not a
requirement that exists under
the law. That is an argument
[1:09:11] requirement that exists under
the law. That is an argument
that was raised by the
[1:09:11] the law. That is an argument
that was raised by the
attorneys for Pine Ridge. That
[1:09:15] that was raised by the
attorneys for Pine Ridge. That
is an argument that was
[1:09:16] attorneys for Pine Ridge. That
is an argument that was
accepted by the judge who
[1:09:18] is an argument that was
accepted by the judge who
presided over the case that
[1:09:19] accepted by the judge who
presided over the case that
circuit court. But that is not
[1:09:23] presided over the case that
circuit court. But that is not
a supportable pretext or
[1:09:24] circuit court. But that is not
a supportable pretext or
precept. Excuse me. And that
[1:09:27] a supportable pretext or
precept. Excuse me. And that
is an argument that we would
[1:09:28] precept. Excuse me. And that
is an argument that we would
be offering on appeal that
[1:09:30] is an argument that we would
be offering on appeal that
that is a is an incorrect
[1:09:32] be offering on appeal that
that is a is an incorrect
ruling. In fact, under the
[1:09:35] that is a is an incorrect
ruling. In fact, under the
under the law in handling
[1:09:38] ruling. In fact, under the
under the law in handling
quasi judicial matters such as
[1:09:41] under the law in handling
quasi judicial matters such as
this and a board city council,
[1:09:42] quasi judicial matters such as
this and a board city council,
a county commission that
[1:09:44] this and a board city council,
a county commission that
handles a quasi judicial
[1:09:46] a county commission that
handles a quasi judicial
consideration of a request to
[1:09:49] handles a quasi judicial
consideration of a request to
change zoning more generally
[1:09:49] consideration of a request to
change zoning more generally
request. form of application
[1:09:54] change zoning more generally
request. form of application
or development. The law is
[1:09:59] request. form of application
or development. The law is
more lenient that I believe
[1:10:01] or development. The law is
more lenient that I believe
the court. I’ll tell you,
[1:10:03] more lenient that I believe
the court. I’ll tell you,
hesitant to in some ways to
[1:10:04] the court. I’ll tell you,
hesitant to in some ways to
get into these things because
[1:10:05] hesitant to in some ways to
get into these things because
they do get into attorney
[1:10:06] get into these things because
they do get into attorney
client work product, take
[1:10:07] they do get into attorney
client work product, take
consideration. But I think
[1:10:07] client work product, take
consideration. But I think
it’s important to you at some
[1:10:09] consideration. But I think
it’s important to you at some
level, discuss them. But the
[1:10:11] it’s important to you at some
level, discuss them. But the
law is a bit more. Forgiving.
[1:10:14] level, discuss them. But the
law is a bit more. Forgiving.
If I can use that term in
[1:10:16] law is a bit more. Forgiving.
If I can use that term in
terms of the process that the
[1:10:20] If I can use that term in
terms of the process that the
government, a board or council
[1:10:22] terms of the process that the
government, a board or council
goes through in considering an
[1:10:23] government, a board or council
goes through in considering an
application process. Now, I
[1:10:26] goes through in considering an
application process. Now, I
understand the argument that
[1:10:26] application process. Now, I
understand the argument that
was made in the pleadings and
[1:10:28] understand the argument that
was made in the pleadings and
in the process of saying,
[1:10:31] was made in the pleadings and
in the process of saying,
well, there wasn’t an explicit
[1:10:33] in the process of saying,
well, there wasn’t an explicit
express process that was
[1:10:34] well, there wasn’t an explicit
express process that was
provided for followed. And you
[1:10:36] express process that was
provided for followed. And you
almost get into a situation
[1:10:37] provided for followed. And you
almost get into a situation
where argument is repeated
[1:10:38] almost get into a situation
where argument is repeated
over and over and then it’s
[1:10:40] where argument is repeated
over and over and then it’s
accepted later by a court. And
[1:10:43] over and over and then it’s
accepted later by a court. And
then it’s repeated perhaps
[1:10:45] accepted later by a court. And
then it’s repeated perhaps
following the addition to the
[1:10:45] then it’s repeated perhaps
following the addition to the
ruling. What you’ll find. It’s
[1:10:48] following the addition to the
ruling. What you’ll find. It’s
interesting in the in the
[1:10:50] ruling. What you’ll find. It’s
interesting in the in the
court’s ruling you’ll find
[1:10:51] interesting in the in the
court’s ruling you’ll find
interesting in the petition
[1:10:51] court’s ruling you’ll find
interesting in the petition
has filed before the court is
[1:10:55] interesting in the petition
has filed before the court is
the lack of legal citation to
[1:10:55] has filed before the court is
the lack of legal citation to
authority to support that
[1:10:56] the lack of legal citation to
authority to support that
proposition. Now, why this is
[1:10:59] authority to support that
proposition. Now, why this is
important is not at least from
[1:11:00] proposition. Now, why this is
important is not at least from
my point of view. And I would
[1:11:02] important is not at least from
my point of view. And I would
suggest to you is not that I’m
[1:11:06] my point of view. And I would
suggest to you is not that I’m
supporting or against. I have
[1:11:07] suggest to you is not that I’m
supporting or against. I have
0 stake in the political
[1:11:08] supporting or against. I have
0 stake in the political
question of whether the Pine
[1:11:10] 0 stake in the political
question of whether the Pine
Ridge Amendment should be
[1:11:11] question of whether the Pine
Ridge Amendment should be
allowed at the golf course.
[1:11:13] Ridge Amendment should be
allowed at the golf course.
However, I would suggest there
[1:11:15] allowed at the golf course.
However, I would suggest there
is a fundamental governmental
[1:11:17] However, I would suggest there
is a fundamental governmental
interest from your point of
[1:11:18] is a fundamental governmental
interest from your point of
view and having the proper
[1:11:22] interest from your point of
view and having the proper
court versus government or
[1:11:24] view and having the proper
court versus government or
court versus County bocc
[1:11:25] court versus government or
court versus County bocc
balance being struck in terms
[1:11:27] court versus County bocc
balance being struck in terms
of weather, you all are
[1:11:30] balance being struck in terms
of weather, you all are
permitted to execute your
[1:11:31] of weather, you all are
permitted to execute your
duties without. Concern. A
[1:11:35] permitted to execute your
duties without. Concern. A
risk of judicial entanglement
[1:11:36] duties without. Concern. A
risk of judicial entanglement
in the decisions you make and
[1:11:39] risk of judicial entanglement
in the decisions you make and
whether you are being made to
[1:11:40] in the decisions you make and
whether you are being made to
take actions were not take
[1:11:41] whether you are being made to
take actions were not take
actions based on. Rulings that
[1:11:45] take actions were not take
actions based on. Rulings that
may not comport with what the
[1:11:47] actions based on. Rulings that
may not comport with what the
law specifically provides for.
[1:11:48] may not comport with what the
law specifically provides for.
So in terms of it would, from
[1:11:53] law specifically provides for.
So in terms of it would, from
my point of view, I would say
[1:11:54] So in terms of it would, from
my point of view, I would say
an appeal is supportable and
[1:11:56] my point of view, I would say
an appeal is supportable and
it’s not because of any
[1:11:56] an appeal is supportable and
it’s not because of any
consideration of what the
[1:11:57] it’s not because of any
consideration of what the
folks here said with the
[1:11:59] consideration of what the
folks here said with the
political considerations as to
[1:12:01] folks here said with the
political considerations as to
whether the development is
[1:12:02] political considerations as to
whether the development is
supportable. But it does
[1:12:04] whether the development is
supportable. But it does
appear to be an incorrect
[1:12:05] supportable. But it does
appear to be an incorrect
ruling. It does. Call into
[1:12:09] appear to be an incorrect
ruling. It does. Call into
question other activities that
[1:12:12] ruling. It does. Call into
question other activities that
the board has done or will do
[1:12:14] question other activities that
the board has done or will do
with regard to considering Dr
[1:12:16] the board has done or will do
with regard to considering Dr
Eyes, although I will state
[1:12:17] with regard to considering Dr
Eyes, although I will state
just to be clear for the
[1:12:19] Eyes, although I will state
just to be clear for the
record, this ruling simply
[1:12:21] just to be clear for the
record, this ruling simply
applies to this individual
[1:12:22] record, this ruling simply
applies to this individual
action of the board in this
[1:12:26] applies to this individual
action of the board in this
ruling cost solely that
[1:12:26] action of the board in this
ruling cost solely that
individual action no
[1:12:28] ruling cost solely that
individual action no
injunction, no territory
[1:12:30] individual action no
injunction, no territory
relief. No striking of those
[1:12:31] injunction, no territory
relief. No striking of those
provisions are any provisions
[1:12:32] relief. No striking of those
provisions are any provisions
of the code. That said it does
[1:12:38] provisions are any provisions
of the code. That said it does
inherently call into question
[1:12:39] of the code. That said it does
inherently call into question
or offer a bit of asked
[1:12:40] inherently call into question
or offer a bit of asked
Richter question Mark, as to
[1:12:44] or offer a bit of asked
Richter question Mark, as to
application of the county’s
[1:12:45] Richter question Mark, as to
application of the county’s
regulations in the future or
[1:12:45] application of the county’s
regulations in the future or
past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes.
[1:12:51] regulations in the future or
past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes.
And there you know, they’re
[1:12:52] past regard to to Dr. Dr Eyes.
And there you know, they’re
that they’re also other
[1:12:52] And there you know, they’re
that they’re also other
considerations that 1, 1,
[1:12:53] that they’re also other
considerations that 1, 1,
might. Question when you read
[1:12:55] considerations that 1, 1,
might. Question when you read
an order like this. The order
[1:12:59] might. Question when you read
an order like this. The order
and also the the petition in
[1:13:02] an order like this. The order
and also the the petition in
it doesn’t answer the question
[1:13:03] and also the the petition in
it doesn’t answer the question
with someone in the county
[1:13:04] it doesn’t answer the question
with someone in the county
were to have dri. How do they
[1:13:06] with someone in the county
were to have dri. How do they
go about amending that dri
[1:13:10] were to have dri. How do they
go about amending that dri
bearing in mind that property
[1:13:11] go about amending that dri
bearing in mind that property
owners, including property
[1:13:13] bearing in mind that property
owners, including property
owners who own property with
[1:13:13] owners, including property
owners who own property with
with Dr Eyes. They do have a
[1:13:17] owners who own property with
with Dr Eyes. They do have a
right to consideration by a
[1:13:20] with Dr Eyes. They do have a
right to consideration by a
governing board of amendments
[1:13:20] right to consideration by a
governing board of amendments
or modifications of land use
[1:13:22] governing board of amendments
or modifications of land use
controls and those could
[1:13:26] or modifications of land use
controls and those could
implicate potential concerns
[1:13:26] controls and those could
implicate potential concerns
of other matters of litigation
[1:13:28] implicate potential concerns
of other matters of litigation
or liability down the road.
[1:13:31] of other matters of litigation
or liability down the road.
It’s not that I would suggest
[1:13:32] or liability down the road.
It’s not that I would suggest
there’s any of those
[1:13:33] It’s not that I would suggest
there’s any of those
considerations here. But these
[1:13:35] there’s any of those
considerations here. But these
kinds of rulings that art is
[1:13:38] considerations here. But these
kinds of rulings that art is
based on the law as they could
[1:13:40] kinds of rulings that art is
based on the law as they could
be bring those considerations
[1:13:44] based on the law as they could
be bring those considerations
to the forefront in cause
[1:13:45] be bring those considerations
to the forefront in cause
uncertainty from from your
[1:13:45] to the forefront in cause
uncertainty from from your
point of view, I apologize for
[1:13:47] uncertainty from from your
point of view, I apologize for
that. Perhaps somewhat
[1:13:49] point of view, I apologize for
that. Perhaps somewhat
long-winded response. But I
[1:13:53] that. Perhaps somewhat
long-winded response. But I
would I encapsulate my view of
[1:13:54] long-winded response. But I
would I encapsulate my view of
the ruling it as that.
[1:13:56] would I encapsulate my view of
the ruling it as that.
Commissioner base.
[1:13:59] the ruling it as that.
Commissioner base.
>> Is there an example of
[1:14:05] Commissioner base.
>> Is there an example of
potentially anytime in the
[1:14:05] >> Is there an example of
potentially anytime in the
past where we did not defend.
[1:14:06] potentially anytime in the
past where we did not defend.
>> vote. that. This is risen
[1:14:11] past where we did not defend.
>> vote. that. This is risen
and we did not defend herself.
[1:14:14] >> vote. that. This is risen
and we did not defend herself.
>> I’m personally not not
[1:14:14] and we did not defend herself.
>> I’m personally not not
aware of Of any situations
[1:14:17] >> I’m personally not not
aware of Of any situations
like this. Attorney Lynn,
[1:14:21] aware of Of any situations
like this. Attorney Lynn,
about you. I’m trying to think
[1:14:27] like this. Attorney Lynn,
about you. I’m trying to think
guy. I’ve been here 11 years.
[1:14:34] about you. I’m trying to think
guy. I’ve been here 11 years.
I don’t think we’ve had any. I
[1:14:41] guy. I’ve been here 11 years.
I don’t think we’ve had any. I
would hate to answer because I
[1:14:42] I don’t think we’ve had any. I
would hate to answer because I
I would want to look and make
[1:14:45] would hate to answer because I
I would want to look and make
sure before I I do want to
[1:14:46] I would want to look and make
sure before I I do want to
guess so. I I really can’t say
[1:14:47] sure before I I do want to
guess so. I I really can’t say
in the last 11 years, I know
[1:14:48] guess so. I I really can’t say
in the last 11 years, I know
we’ve had some appeals.
[1:14:50] in the last 11 years, I know
we’ve had some appeals.
>> I can’t think of a
[1:14:51] we’ve had some appeals.
>> I can’t think of a
situation where we’ve had a
[1:14:53] >> I can’t think of a
situation where we’ve had a
court actually quash a profit
[1:14:54] situation where we’ve had a
court actually quash a profit
and action of the board. Since
[1:14:54] court actually quash a profit
and action of the board. Since
I’ve been.
[1:14:55] and action of the board. Since
I’ve been.
>> Working with you all.
[1:14:58] I’ve been.
>> Working with you all.
>> I don’t think we have at
[1:14:59] >> Working with you all.
>> I don’t think we have at
least not in the last 11
[1:15:01] >> I don’t think we have at
least not in the last 11
years, but I would want
[1:15:02] least not in the last 11
years, but I would want
preface that by just saying, I
[1:15:02] years, but I would want
preface that by just saying, I
want to look to be sure.
[1:15:08] preface that by just saying, I
want to look to be sure.
>> Commissioner. I see year, I
[1:15:12] want to look to be sure.
>> Commissioner. I see year, I
listen to it. Commissioner
[1:15:15] >> Commissioner. I see year, I
listen to it. Commissioner
rises and commissioner do
[1:15:15] listen to it. Commissioner
rises and commissioner do
says. And I got a letter from
[1:15:18] rises and commissioner do
says. And I got a letter from
an attorney. You know, the
[1:15:22] says. And I got a letter from
an attorney. You know, the
Dixon of people that want to
[1:15:22] an attorney. You know, the
Dixon of people that want to
do that houses. I don’t think
[1:15:27] Dixon of people that want to
do that houses. I don’t think
that that is right for us to
[1:15:29] do that houses. I don’t think
that that is right for us to
agree to. If we say we’re
[1:15:32] that that is right for us to
agree to. If we say we’re
going to say no, you’re gonna
[1:15:33] agree to. If we say we’re
going to say no, you’re gonna
come up with this other thing,
[1:15:33] going to say no, you’re gonna
come up with this other thing,
we’re going partner with a law
[1:15:35] come up with this other thing,
we’re going partner with a law
firm. And it’s the law firm
[1:15:39] we’re going partner with a law
firm. And it’s the law firm
that represents the people on
[1:15:41] firm. And it’s the law firm
that represents the people on
the other side in matter.
[1:15:46] that represents the people on
the other side in matter.
That’s wrong, OK? And that’s
[1:15:47] the other side in matter.
That’s wrong, OK? And that’s
100% today I want to I think
[1:15:54] That’s wrong, OK? And that’s
100% today I want to I think
we should vote on this. And if
[1:15:54] 100% today I want to I think
we should vote on this. And if
you don’t want to do, you
[1:15:56] we should vote on this. And if
you don’t want to do, you
know, we don’t I don’t want to
[1:15:57] you don’t want to do, you
know, we don’t I don’t want to
spend any more money. So I say
[1:16:01] know, we don’t I don’t want to
spend any more money. So I say
we should accept. That’s why I
[1:16:01] spend any more money. So I say
we should accept. That’s why I
seconded the motion. And if we
[1:16:04] we should accept. That’s why I
seconded the motion. And if we
accept it, that just ended
[1:16:06] seconded the motion. And if we
accept it, that just ended
this point. And if Mister
[1:16:08] accept it, that just ended
this point. And if Mister
Dixon just developer governing
[1:16:09] this point. And if Mister
Dixon just developer governing
it all the developers want to
[1:16:11] Dixon just developer governing
it all the developers want to
go back to attorneys. They can
[1:16:14] it all the developers want to
go back to attorneys. They can
go back with their big
[1:16:16] go back to attorneys. They can
go back with their big
package, which I could
[1:16:16] go back with their big
package, which I could
expenses in this county. Not
[1:16:18] package, which I could
expenses in this county. Not
as to the.
[1:16:21] expenses in this county. Not
as to the.
>> every time I turn around,
[1:16:21] as to the.
>> every time I turn around,
you know.
[1:16:23] >> every time I turn around,
you know.
>> We need to be for what is
[1:16:27] you know.
>> We need to be for what is
going on this county. What do
[1:16:28] >> We need to be for what is
going on this county. What do
the people want? I hear very
[1:16:30] going on this county. What do
the people want? I hear very
many people say what we want.
[1:16:35] the people want? I hear very
many people say what we want.
We want go with D*** says want
[1:16:39] many people say what we want.
We want go with D*** says want
everybody came up today.
[1:16:40] We want go with D*** says want
everybody came up today.
Almost every single one came
[1:16:40] everybody came up today.
Almost every single one came
up and said they were happy,
[1:16:43] Almost every single one came
up and said they were happy,
please, you know, don’t go any
[1:16:44] up and said they were happy,
please, you know, don’t go any
further. I think we should
[1:16:46] please, you know, don’t go any
further. I think we should
vote.
[1:16:50] further. I think we should
vote.
>> So for me, it’s not about
[1:16:51] vote.
>> So for me, it’s not about
how many people are for
[1:16:55] >> So for me, it’s not about
how many people are for
something. How many people are
[1:16:56] how many people are for
something. How many people are
against something. It’s just
[1:16:57] something. How many people are
against something. It’s just
the process that we all are
[1:16:57] against something. It’s just
the process that we all are
supposed to follow. I’m
[1:17:03] the process that we all are
supposed to follow. I’m
shocked to my dismay. 2 of you
[1:17:05] supposed to follow. I’m
shocked to my dismay. 2 of you
think that it’s OK to pursue a
[1:17:09] shocked to my dismay. 2 of you
think that it’s OK to pursue a
lawsuit and have the
[1:17:10] think that it’s OK to pursue a
lawsuit and have the
developer’s attorney pay for
[1:17:12] lawsuit and have the
developer’s attorney pay for
it.
[1:17:13] developer’s attorney pay for
it.
>> I think that is a very,
[1:17:14] it.
>> I think that is a very,
very bad, bad luck
[1:17:18] >> I think that is a very,
very bad, bad luck
>> don’t poke please.
[1:17:23] very bad, bad luck
>> don’t poke please.
>> I don’t. I don’t know how
[1:17:24] >> don’t poke please.
>> I don’t. I don’t know how
you defend that in the future.
[1:17:26] >> I don’t. I don’t know how
you defend that in the future.
I don’t know how you defend
[1:17:27] you defend that in the future.
I don’t know how you defend
that to the people that you
[1:17:28] I don’t know how you defend
that to the people that you
represent to me. It makes
[1:17:31] that to the people that you
represent to me. It makes
sense if we have an issue that
[1:17:32] represent to me. It makes
sense if we have an issue that
the judge has pointed out, we
[1:17:35] sense if we have an issue that
the judge has pointed out, we
don’t fight against the
[1:17:36] the judge has pointed out, we
don’t fight against the
judge’s ruling. We certainly
[1:17:39] don’t fight against the
judge’s ruling. We certainly
don’t say I will help you. You
[1:17:40] judge’s ruling. We certainly
don’t say I will help you. You
pay for it when when the
[1:17:43] don’t say I will help you. You
pay for it when when the
person has been an old friend
[1:17:47] pay for it when when the
person has been an old friend
of some.
[1:17:47] person has been an old friend
of some.
>> That’s about look, what we
[1:17:48] of some.
>> That’s about look, what we
do is fix the issue. And then,
[1:17:52] >> That’s about look, what we
do is fix the issue. And then,
you know, I don’t know where
[1:17:53] do is fix the issue. And then,
you know, I don’t know where
this ends up later. If the
[1:17:55] you know, I don’t know where
this ends up later. If the
developer comes back you under
[1:17:56] this ends up later. If the
developer comes back you under
a new process.
[1:18:00] developer comes back you under
a new process.
>> But again, for for Pine
[1:18:01] a new process.
>> But again, for for Pine
Ridge being divided, all that
[1:18:01] >> But again, for for Pine
Ridge being divided, all that
we all hated it. somebody put
[1:18:05] Ridge being divided, all that
we all hated it. somebody put
like being being the mom
[1:18:09] we all hated it. somebody put
like being being the mom
right? Where?
[1:18:10] like being being the mom
right? Where?
>> That’s not our role. We’re
[1:18:11] right? Where?
>> That’s not our role. We’re
just supposed to do what we’re
[1:18:11] >> That’s not our role. We’re
just supposed to do what we’re
supposed to do as a government
[1:18:15] just supposed to do what we’re
supposed to do as a government
body.
[1:18:15] supposed to do as a government
body.
>> Now and in the past, I
[1:18:16] body.
>> Now and in the past, I
voted against it again, not on
[1:18:18] >> Now and in the past, I
voted against it again, not on
being on one person side or
[1:18:21] voted against it again, not on
being on one person side or
the other because my believes
[1:18:25] being on one person side or
the other because my believes
government shouldn’t go into
[1:18:26] the other because my believes
government shouldn’t go into
people’s backyards and tell
[1:18:28] government shouldn’t go into
people’s backyards and tell
them, forget, forget your
[1:18:30] people’s backyards and tell
them, forget, forget your
research and what you’ve done
[1:18:31] them, forget, forget your
research and what you’ve done
and how you bought this
[1:18:32] research and what you’ve done
and how you bought this
property. We have the power to
[1:18:32] and how you bought this
property. We have the power to
change and we’re just going to
[1:18:33] property. We have the power to
change and we’re just going to
change it. I philosophically
[1:18:35] change and we’re just going to
change it. I philosophically
don’t believe. That’s right.
[1:18:36] change it. I philosophically
don’t believe. That’s right.
And I certainly don’t think
[1:18:39] don’t believe. That’s right.
And I certainly don’t think
it’s right that we pay or let
[1:18:42] And I certainly don’t think
it’s right that we pay or let
somebody.
[1:18:42] it’s right that we pay or let
somebody.
>> That’s on the opposing side
[1:18:44] somebody.
>> That’s on the opposing side
against any of our people to
[1:18:48] >> That’s on the opposing side
against any of our people to
pursue a lawsuit that is
[1:18:49] against any of our people to
pursue a lawsuit that is
that’s wrong on. So so many
[1:18:51] pursue a lawsuit that is
that’s wrong on. So so many
levels. So I hope, although I
[1:18:54] that’s wrong on. So so many
levels. So I hope, although I
feel like this is fairly
[1:18:57] levels. So I hope, although I
feel like this is fairly
predictable that somebody up
[1:19:00] feel like this is fairly
predictable that somebody up
here also would realize that
[1:19:02] predictable that somebody up
here also would realize that
and let them pursue this in
[1:19:04] here also would realize that
and let them pursue this in
the correct way. Not in a way
[1:19:07] and let them pursue this in
the correct way. Not in a way
where we’re on behalf of all
[1:19:08] the correct way. Not in a way
where we’re on behalf of all
taxpayers, not just anybody
[1:19:09] where we’re on behalf of all
taxpayers, not just anybody
living high ridge pursuing a
[1:19:13] taxpayers, not just anybody
living high ridge pursuing a
lawsuit because we don’t like
[1:19:13] living high ridge pursuing a
lawsuit because we don’t like
a judge’s decision. Madam
[1:19:17] lawsuit because we don’t like
a judge’s decision. Madam
Commissioner, can I do?
[1:19:20] a judge’s decision. Madam
Commissioner, can I do?
>> Deal? First of all, thank
[1:19:22] Commissioner, can I do?
>> Deal? First of all, thank
An excellent. Discussion about
[1:19:29] >> Deal? First of all, thank
An excellent. Discussion about
where we’re at and you what
[1:19:31] An excellent. Discussion about
where we’re at and you what
your position is on the
[1:19:33] where we’re at and you what
your position is on the
judges. judge’s order. So it
[1:19:36] your position is on the
judges. judge’s order. So it
led me to to believe that
[1:19:39] judges. judge’s order. So it
led me to to believe that
rather than suggesting that we
[1:19:42] led me to to believe that
rather than suggesting that we
need to a cure previously
[1:19:44] rather than suggesting that we
need to a cure previously
modified eyes that we need to
[1:19:47] need to a cure previously
modified eyes that we need to
protect past decisions on
[1:19:48] modified eyes that we need to
protect past decisions on
modifying Dr Eyes. And if that
[1:19:53] protect past decisions on
modifying Dr Eyes. And if that
means board action on a text
[1:19:54] modifying Dr Eyes. And if that
means board action on a text
amendment the sea to do that
[1:19:58] means board action on a text
amendment the sea to do that
so that we don’t end up
[1:19:59] amendment the sea to do that
so that we don’t end up
having. Another decision like
[1:20:07] so that we don’t end up
having. Another decision like
this. The holy disagree with
[1:20:08] having. Another decision like
this. The holy disagree with
this. Not about picking sides.
[1:20:09] this. The holy disagree with
this. Not about picking sides.
One where the other symbol. I
[1:20:10] this. Not about picking sides.
One where the other symbol. I
disagree with the judge
[1:20:11] One where the other symbol. I
disagree with the judge
decided and I unbiased legal
[1:20:18] disagree with the judge
decided and I unbiased legal
opinions would would arrive at
[1:20:18] decided and I unbiased legal
opinions would would arrive at
the same decision. But I do
[1:20:22] opinions would would arrive at
the same decision. But I do
believe that Muslim got it
[1:20:23] the same decision. But I do
believe that Muslim got it
wrong. We have we have one of
[1:20:25] believe that Muslim got it
wrong. We have we have one of
3 options, not just to accept
[1:20:28] wrong. We have we have one of
3 options, not just to accept
or appeal. I disagree with his
[1:20:31] 3 options, not just to accept
or appeal. I disagree with his
decision and I think that we
[1:20:33] or appeal. I disagree with his
decision and I think that we
can appeal as Ako petitioner,
[1:20:34] decision and I think that we
can appeal as Ako petitioner,
as I said before, I don’t know
[1:20:38] can appeal as Ako petitioner,
as I said before, I don’t know
been single dollar on this,
[1:20:40] as I said before, I don’t know
been single dollar on this,
but I disagree with that. I
[1:20:42] been single dollar on this,
but I disagree with that. I
think the a judge and
[1:20:45] but I disagree with that. I
think the a judge and
appellate judge has the
[1:20:46] think the a judge and
appellate judge has the
opportunity should get the
[1:20:48] appellate judge has the
opportunity should get the
opportunity to demonstrate
[1:20:49] opportunity should get the
opportunity to demonstrate
that that opinion was wrong.
[1:20:52] opportunity to demonstrate
that that opinion was wrong.
So again, I appreciate where
[1:20:53] that that opinion was wrong.
So again, I appreciate where
you’re but I won’t be
[1:20:54] So again, I appreciate where
you’re but I won’t be
supporting your motion. And if
[1:20:56] you’re but I won’t be
supporting your motion. And if
it fails, I will be making a
[1:20:57] supporting your motion. And if
it fails, I will be making a
motion enter as a as a co
[1:21:02] it fails, I will be making a
motion enter as a as a co
petitioner.
[1:21:06] motion enter as a as a co
petitioner.
>> Anyone have comments before
[1:21:07] petitioner.
>> Anyone have comments before
I call the vote. Italy’s?
[1:21:11] >> Anyone have comments before
I call the vote. Italy’s?
quiet quiet. Please. We don’t
[1:21:14] I call the vote. Italy’s?
quiet quiet. Please. We don’t
have anyone in this room
[1:21:15] quiet quiet. Please. We don’t
have anyone in this room
again. Is that? Law
[1:21:22] have anyone in this room
again. Is that? Law
enforcement’s not in this room
[1:21:24] again. Is that? Law
enforcement’s not in this room
hit.
[1:21:24] enforcement’s not in this room
hit.
>> Here we here we are again.
[1:21:29] hit.
>> Here we here we are again.
>> Board. Any other comments.
[1:21:36] >> Here we here we are again.
>> Board. Any other comments.
All those in favor. Aye, any
[1:21:37] >> Board. Any other comments.
All those in favor. Aye, any
opposed nay motion fails. 3,
[1:21:38] All those in favor. Aye, any
opposed nay motion fails. 3,
2, Madam Chair.
[1:21:43] opposed nay motion fails. 3,
2, Madam Chair.
>> I would make a motion that
[1:21:46] 2, Madam Chair.
>> I would make a motion that
that the county participated
[1:21:47] >> I would make a motion that
that the county participated
in an appeal is a co
[1:21:50] that the county participated
in an appeal is a co
petitioner provided that we
[1:21:51] in an appeal is a co
petitioner provided that we
would not be exposed to any
[1:21:55] petitioner provided that we
would not be exposed to any
fees of prevailing party.
[1:21:56] would not be exposed to any
fees of prevailing party.
Second.
[1:22:00] fees of prevailing party.
Second.
>> I have a motion by
[1:22:01] Second.
>> I have a motion by
commissioner Canard and the
[1:22:02] >> I have a motion by
commissioner Canard and the
second by Commissioner Davis.
[1:22:04] commissioner Canard and the
second by Commissioner Davis.
Any public comment. We are not
[1:22:08] second by Commissioner Davis.
Any public comment. We are not
in number orders. So if you’ve
[1:22:11] Any public comment. We are not
in number orders. So if you’ve
already submitted a green card
[1:22:12] in number orders. So if you’ve
already submitted a green card
and you’ve spoken on the last
[1:22:13] already submitted a green card
and you’ve spoken on the last
motion, you do not have to
[1:22:16] and you’ve spoken on the last
motion, you do not have to
submit another green card. And
[1:22:28] motion, you do not have to
submit another green card. And
you that my motion picks,
[1:22:30] submit another green card. And
you that my motion picks,
they’re not going to respect
[1:22:33] you that my motion picks,
they’re not going to respect
you so I’m gonna need a deputy
[1:22:35] they’re not going to respect
you so I’m gonna need a deputy
in this room. I don’t I you’re
[1:22:37] you so I’m gonna need a deputy
in this room. I don’t I you’re
supposed to be listening and
[1:22:37] in this room. I don’t I you’re
supposed to be listening and
you’re supposed to be in this
[1:22:39] supposed to be listening and
you’re supposed to be in this
room. So
[1:22:39] you’re supposed to be in this
room. So
>> it would help me keep
[1:22:40] room. So
>> it would help me keep
order. Hopefully they’re
[1:22:42] >> it would help me keep
order. Hopefully they’re
listening. And for those that
[1:22:49] order. Hopefully they’re
listening. And for those that
weren’t paying attention, I
[1:22:50] listening. And for those that
weren’t paying attention, I
made a motion and it failed.
[1:22:54] weren’t paying attention, I
made a motion and it failed.
So now there’s a new motion
[1:22:54] made a motion and it failed.
So now there’s a new motion
and now we are opening backup
[1:22:56] So now there’s a new motion
and now we are opening backup
to public comment. It’s I’m
[1:23:01] and now we are opening backup
to public comment. It’s I’m
able high ridge estates.
[1:23:04] to public comment. It’s I’m
able high ridge estates.
>> OK, in this particular
[1:23:05] able high ridge estates.
>> OK, in this particular
instance. You’re telling me
[1:23:07] >> OK, in this particular
instance. You’re telling me
that the county board of
[1:23:09] instance. You’re telling me
that the county board of
Commissioners. Would be. Co
[1:23:13] that the county board of
Commissioners. Would be. Co
applicants with Dick’s. To
[1:23:16] Commissioners. Would be. Co
applicants with Dick’s. To
appeal this. Now. What kind of
[1:23:21] applicants with Dick’s. To
appeal this. Now. What kind of
liability does the county
[1:23:23] appeal this. Now. What kind of
liability does the county
face? Okay. So. What if This
[1:23:28] liability does the county
face? Okay. So. What if This
could go seriously wrong when
[1:23:29] face? Okay. So. What if This
could go seriously wrong when
your favor. Because remember
[1:23:33] could go seriously wrong when
your favor. Because remember
anything stated in the court?
[1:23:35] your favor. Because remember
anything stated in the court?
It’s illegal. Is legal can be
[1:23:40] anything stated in the court?
It’s illegal. Is legal can be
challenged and could if they
[1:23:41] It’s illegal. Is legal can be
challenged and could if they
say something. On your behalf,
[1:23:46] challenged and could if they
say something. On your behalf,
that’s absolutely wrong.
[1:23:47] say something. On your behalf,
that’s absolutely wrong.
Defamation, whatever, whatever
[1:23:50] that’s absolutely wrong.
Defamation, whatever, whatever
you could end of big suit
[1:23:51] Defamation, whatever, whatever
you could end of big suit
extensively. I think you all
[1:23:55] you could end of big suit
extensively. I think you all
to really think about that
[1:23:56] extensively. I think you all
to really think about that
because what kind of exposure
[1:24:00] to really think about that
because what kind of exposure
are you leaving us? The county
[1:24:02] because what kind of exposure
are you leaving us? The county
residents? I mean, this is
[1:24:05] are you leaving us? The county
residents? I mean, this is
going to be serious if it goes
[1:24:07] residents? I mean, this is
going to be serious if it goes
to her. Thank Thank you for
[1:24:10] going to be serious if it goes
to her. Thank Thank you for
your comments next. Speaker.
[1:24:16] to her. Thank Thank you for
your comments next. Speaker.
>> Kind of see people behind
[1:24:16] your comments next. Speaker.
>> Kind of see people behind
the wall? 3 minutes. Yes,
[1:24:24] >> Kind of see people behind
the wall? 3 minutes. Yes,
State your name and where
[1:24:25] the wall? 3 minutes. Yes,
State your name and where
you’re from. A good afternoon,
[1:24:28] State your name and where
you’re from. A good afternoon,
Mario Leon, I moved here 10
[1:24:29] you’re from. A good afternoon,
Mario Leon, I moved here 10
years The property owner, my
[1:24:30] Mario Leon, I moved here 10
years The property owner, my
parents live here. I different
[1:24:31] years The property owner, my
parents live here. I different
properties in Pine Ridge.
[1:24:33] parents live here. I different
properties in Pine Ridge.
Also.
[1:24:34] properties in Pine Ridge.
Also.
>> Volunteer coach soccer club
[1:24:36] Also.
>> Volunteer coach soccer club
Citrus assessor, but involved
[1:24:39] >> Volunteer coach soccer club
Citrus assessor, but involved
with kids for an extended
[1:24:39] Citrus assessor, but involved
with kids for an extended
period of time. My son
[1:24:40] with kids for an extended
period of time. My son
graduated high school lecanto.
[1:24:43] period of time. My son
graduated high school lecanto.
He’s at freshman on a college
[1:24:45] graduated high school lecanto.
He’s at freshman on a college
scholarship playing soccer. I
[1:24:48] He’s at freshman on a college
scholarship playing soccer. I
the extent of ties to the
[1:24:49] scholarship playing soccer. I
the extent of ties to the
community. I know everybody
[1:24:52] the extent of ties to the
community. I know everybody
that to he’s passionate about.
[1:24:53] community. I know everybody
that to he’s passionate about.
This is not here today because
[1:24:54] that to he’s passionate about.
This is not here today because
it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday.
[1:24:58] This is not here today because
it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday.
>> I’m I’m sorry. I just
[1:24:59] it’s 1 o’clock on a weekday.
>> I’m I’m sorry. I just
needed to stop your time.
[1:24:59] >> I’m I’m sorry. I just
needed to stop your time.
Permanent attorneys. I don’t
[1:25:02] needed to stop your time.
Permanent attorneys. I don’t
know if you need to walk out,
[1:25:03] Permanent attorneys. I don’t
know if you need to walk out,
but very distracting politics
[1:25:06] know if you need to walk out,
but very distracting politics
Okay. Thank you. So we’re on
[1:25:08] but very distracting politics
Okay. Thank you. So we’re on
the same page. I have
[1:25:11] Okay. Thank you. So we’re on
the same page. I have
extensive ties. The community
[1:25:11] the same page. I have
extensive ties. The community
volunteering at local club, a
[1:25:12] extensive ties. The community
volunteering at local club, a
local soccer club.
[1:25:14] volunteering at local club, a
local soccer club.
>> My son is also recent
[1:25:15] local soccer club.
>> My son is also recent
graduate high school. So this
[1:25:18] >> My son is also recent
graduate high school. So this
is to me dieron passionate.
[1:25:22] graduate high school. So this
is to me dieron passionate.
I’m confused, extremely
[1:25:23] is to me dieron passionate.
I’m confused, extremely
confused with a lot of our
[1:25:24] I’m confused, extremely
confused with a lot of our
residents there in the area.
[1:25:28] confused with a lot of our
residents there in the area.
to understand that this board
[1:25:30] residents there in the area.
to understand that this board
after originally voting 5, 0,
[1:25:32] to understand that this board
after originally voting 5, 0,
We’ve gotten to a point now
[1:25:33] after originally voting 5, 0,
We’ve gotten to a point now
where we’re 3, 2, in favor of
[1:25:35] We’ve gotten to a point now
where we’re 3, 2, in favor of
selling 220 acres. Off market
[1:25:39] where we’re 3, 2, in favor of
selling 220 acres. Off market
property. That’s a common
[1:25:41] selling 220 acres. Off market
property. That’s a common
space privately to a
[1:25:44] property. That’s a common
space privately to a
developer. Pennies on the
[1:25:45] space privately to a
developer. Pennies on the
dollar at less than $5,000. An
[1:25:47] developer. Pennies on the
dollar at less than $5,000. An
acre and then they’re going to
[1:25:48] dollar at less than $5,000. An
acre and then they’re going to
bring that petition to board.
[1:25:51] acre and then they’re going to
bring that petition to board.
To develop 220 acres into a
[1:25:54] bring that petition to board.
To develop 220 acres into a
tea houses. You can do the
[1:25:55] To develop 220 acres into a
tea houses. You can do the
math in terms of what the
[1:25:56] tea houses. You can do the
math in terms of what the
sales are and you’re
[1:25:57] math in terms of what the
sales are and you’re
supporting. But that’s okay.
[1:26:00] sales are and you’re
supporting. But that’s okay.
Is that correct? Is that what
[1:26:01] supporting. But that’s okay.
Is that correct? Is that what
this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people
[1:26:03] Is that correct? Is that what
this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people
say no, I don’t want to do
[1:26:04] this vote is 3 tuna? 2 people
say no, I don’t want to do
that. 3 people say yes, your
[1:26:05] say no, I don’t want to do
that. 3 people say yes, your
elected officials. We elect a
[1:26:09] that. 3 people say yes, your
elected officials. We elect a
summer getting re-elected
[1:26:09] elected officials. We elect a
summer getting re-elected
summer. Not when you’re Jones.
[1:26:10] summer getting re-elected
summer. Not when you’re Jones.
Turns come up. to understand
[1:26:13] summer. Not when you’re Jones.
Turns come up. to understand
that you’re gonna support. Now
[1:26:13] Turns come up. to understand
that you’re gonna support. Now
the opponent of this. And say,
[1:26:16] that you’re gonna support. Now
the opponent of this. And say,
you know what, we can finance
[1:26:18] the opponent of this. And say,
you know what, we can finance
it, but we’re going to let him
[1:26:20] you know what, we can finance
it, but we’re going to let him
finances because, yes, the
[1:26:20] it, but we’re going to let him
finances because, yes, the
pockets. But you know what? I
[1:26:21] finances because, yes, the
pockets. But you know what? I
agree with that. That decision
[1:26:22] pockets. But you know what? I
agree with that. That decision
was wrong. The people spoken.
[1:26:24] agree with that. That decision
was wrong. The people spoken.
We were here 502, years ago.
[1:26:26] was wrong. The people spoken.
We were here 502, years ago.
What changed a gate. 3 houses,
[1:26:29] We were here 502, years ago.
What changed a gate. 3 houses,
5 houses. What changed? How
[1:26:33] What changed a gate. 3 houses,
5 houses. What changed? How
much more do we need to go
[1:26:33] 5 houses. What changed? How
much more do we need to go
through? We’ve spent tons of
[1:26:34] much more do we need to go
through? We’ve spent tons of
money. Where we could have
[1:26:36] through? We’ve spent tons of
money. Where we could have
been beautifying our
[1:26:37] money. Where we could have
been beautifying our
community. The people that are
[1:26:39] been beautifying our
community. The people that are
here that are speaking against
[1:26:40] community. The people that are
here that are speaking against
the understand. I don’t
[1:26:44] here that are speaking against
the understand. I don’t
understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t
[1:26:45] the understand. I don’t
understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t
understand. I don’t I don’t
[1:26:46] understand why. 1, 2, 3 don’t
understand. I don’t I don’t
get for the price of one
[1:26:47] understand. I don’t I don’t
get for the price of one
house. With 7.50, that the
[1:26:52] get for the price of one
house. With 7.50, that the
lots sold for the 22250,000.
[1:26:53] house. With 7.50, that the
lots sold for the 22250,000.
Is that right? That’s what
[1:26:56] lots sold for the 22250,000.
Is that right? That’s what
that’s I think. That’s what
[1:26:57] Is that right? That’s what
that’s I think. That’s what
the public record is. Right.
[1:26:58] that’s I think. That’s what
the public record is. Right.
150,000 for 220 acres. And
[1:27:01] the public record is. Right.
150,000 for 220 acres. And
we’re going to let this guy
[1:27:02] 150,000 for 220 acres. And
we’re going to let this guy
come in and buy them. What, 3,
[1:27:03] we’re going to let this guy
come in and buy them. What, 3,
$4,000, an acre. And then
[1:27:06] come in and buy them. What, 3,
$4,000, an acre. And then
build houses and bring all the
[1:27:08] $4,000, an acre. And then
build houses and bring all the
infrastructure and mind. You
[1:27:09] build houses and bring all the
infrastructure and mind. You
were talking about residents
[1:27:10] infrastructure and mind. You
were talking about residents
that are in their final
[1:27:12] were talking about residents
that are in their final
stages, right? The last part
[1:27:13] that are in their final
stages, right? The last part
of their life. They worked
[1:27:13] stages, right? The last part
of their life. They worked
their whole life. They want to
[1:27:14] of their life. They worked
their whole life. They want to
retire peace and not with
[1:27:18] their whole life. They want to
retire peace and not with
construction trucks for 80
[1:27:18] retire peace and not with
construction trucks for 80
houses. For 80 houses on a
[1:27:22] construction trucks for 80
houses. For 80 houses on a
one-lane road that goes each
[1:27:23] houses. For 80 houses on a
one-lane road that goes each
way who’s been on Pine Ridge
[1:27:24] one-lane road that goes each
way who’s been on Pine Ridge
Boulevard. One lane each way
[1:27:26] way who’s been on Pine Ridge
Boulevard. One lane each way
Lk one lane each way you’re
[1:27:29] Boulevard. One lane each way
Lk one lane each way you’re
going to introduce 80 houses,
[1:27:30] Lk one lane each way you’re
going to introduce 80 houses,
infrastructure. Take out
[1:27:32] going to introduce 80 houses,
infrastructure. Take out
trees, take out really. We’re
[1:27:36] infrastructure. Take out
trees, take out really. We’re
at the point now with this
[1:27:38] trees, take out really. We’re
at the point now with this
board says, yes, we’re not
[1:27:39] at the point now with this
board says, yes, we’re not
gonna put our money there
[1:27:39] board says, yes, we’re not
gonna put our money there
because, you know, my guys
[1:27:40] gonna put our money there
because, you know, my guys
might get upset, but I’m going
[1:27:43] because, you know, my guys
might get upset, but I’m going
to sit down and go on the same
[1:27:43] might get upset, but I’m going
to sit down and go on the same
side. I’m really at a loss.
[1:27:48] to sit down and go on the same
side. I’m really at a loss.
I’m really at a loss, but I’m
[1:27:48] side. I’m really at a loss.
I’m really at a loss, but I’m
not sure house to frame this.
[1:27:50] I’m really at a loss, but I’m
not sure house to frame this.
I think we’ve spoken from as a
[1:27:51] not sure house to frame this.
I think we’ve spoken from as a
community and I think going
[1:27:53] I think we’ve spoken from as a
community and I think going
forward. You’ll have your
[1:27:55] community and I think going
forward. You’ll have your
conscience to do with thank
[1:27:56] forward. You’ll have your
conscience to do with thank
you. Thank U next speaker.
[1:28:02] conscience to do with thank
you. Thank U next speaker.
I’ve heard smoke.
[1:28:04] you. Thank U next speaker.
I’ve heard smoke.
>> Kevin Thank you listening.
[1:28:12] I’ve heard smoke.
>> Kevin Thank you listening.
But I do have to make a couple
[1:28:13] >> Kevin Thank you listening.
But I do have to make a couple
quick points. The president of
[1:28:17] But I do have to make a couple
quick points. The president of
our current president of our
[1:28:17] quick points. The president of
our current president of our
board got up here and and
[1:28:21] our current president of our
board got up here and and
contradicted what I said or
[1:28:21] board got up here and and
contradicted what I said or
challenge what I said about
[1:28:23] contradicted what I said or
challenge what I said about
20%. Less than 20% of the
[1:28:25] challenge what I said about
20%. Less than 20% of the
vote. He said 33% of that may
[1:28:29] 20%. Less than 20% of the
vote. He said 33% of that may
have voted in our community,
[1:28:30] vote. He said 33% of that may
have voted in our community,
but they only one slightly
[1:28:32] have voted in our community,
but they only one slightly
over half of that. That’s why
[1:28:33] but they only one slightly
over half of that. That’s why
I say, well, south of 20% of
[1:28:34] over half of that. That’s why
I say, well, south of 20% of
our population have this board
[1:28:39] I say, well, south of 20% of
our population have this board
in places. It is today and
[1:28:39] our population have this board
in places. It is today and
making all this fuss. I find
[1:28:43] in places. It is today and
making all this fuss. I find
it. On your behalf. Utterly
[1:28:47] making all this fuss. I find
it. On your behalf. Utterly
offensive. That. People want
[1:28:50] it. On your behalf. Utterly
offensive. That. People want
to get up here and say. Almost
[1:28:58] offensive. That. People want
to get up here and say. Almost
threatening comments about
[1:29:01] to get up here and say. Almost
threatening comments about
your elections going forward
[1:29:01] threatening comments about
your elections going forward
and who’s going to support you
[1:29:02] your elections going forward
and who’s going to support you
and how much of a
[1:29:04] and who’s going to support you
and how much of a
>> community support we have.
[1:29:07] and how much of a
>> community support we have.
And I just I just find that
[1:29:08] >> community support we have.
And I just I just find that
totally offensive. And I’m
[1:29:10] And I just I just find that
totally offensive. And I’m
sorry that you have to hear
[1:29:11] totally offensive. And I’m
sorry that you have to hear
those kind of comments from
[1:29:12] sorry that you have to hear
those kind of comments from
our community quiet. people
[1:29:17] those kind of comments from
our community quiet. people
can vote the way their they
[1:29:17] our community quiet. people
can vote the way their they
want to vote again. It’s not
[1:29:22] can vote the way their they
want to vote again. It’s not
for me to ask you questions.
[1:29:25] want to vote again. It’s not
for me to ask you questions.
But one of the things that
[1:29:25] for me to ask you questions.
But one of the things that
keeps popping in my mind is
[1:29:26] But one of the things that
keeps popping in my mind is
that this judge is decision
[1:29:28] keeps popping in my mind is
that this judge is decision
was based on dri. And my
[1:29:33] that this judge is decision
was based on dri. And my
understanding from talking Joe
[1:29:34] was based on dri. And my
understanding from talking Joe
and several times of your
[1:29:36] understanding from talking Joe
and several times of your
staff that this property is
[1:29:37] and several times of your
staff that this property is
not at the R I a little
[1:29:41] staff that this property is
not at the R I a little
confused by that. Again, I’m
[1:29:42] not at the R I a little
confused by that. Again, I’m
not ask you a question, but
[1:29:42] confused by that. Again, I’m
not ask you a question, but
that might be some fuel for a
[1:29:47] not ask you a question, but
that might be some fuel for a
repeal of this decision
[1:29:50] that might be some fuel for a
repeal of this decision
because of the foundation of
[1:29:52] repeal of this decision
because of the foundation of
the decision might be loose
[1:29:52] because of the foundation of
the decision might be loose
ground I do want to say that
[1:29:57] the decision might be loose
ground I do want to say that
Green church here, not pro
[1:29:58] ground I do want to say that
Green church here, not pro
development. Smart
[1:30:03] Green church here, not pro
development. Smart
development. This golf courses
[1:30:04] development. Smart
development. This golf courses
failed 8 times. People keep
[1:30:05] development. This golf courses
failed 8 times. People keep
saying we got to have a golf
[1:30:06] failed 8 times. People keep
saying we got to have a golf
course. this is part of the
[1:30:07] saying we got to have a golf
course. this is part of the
community and all this stuff.
[1:30:08] course. this is part of the
community and all this stuff.
It’s failed. 8 times and our
[1:30:12] community and all this stuff.
It’s failed. 8 times and our
our board and their supporters
[1:30:13] It’s failed. 8 times and our
our board and their supporters
have been saying for over a
[1:30:16] our board and their supporters
have been saying for over a
year and a half, were we don’t
[1:30:18] have been saying for over a
year and a half, were we don’t
want to buy a golf course. We
[1:30:19] year and a half, were we don’t
want to buy a golf course. We
don’t want to ownership and a
[1:30:20] want to buy a golf course. We
don’t want to ownership and a
golf course. Weve got
[1:30:22] don’t want to ownership and a
golf course. Weve got
investors that want to own and
[1:30:23] golf course. Weve got
investors that want to own and
operate a golf course. Well,
[1:30:25] investors that want to own and
operate a golf course. Well,
come to find out at the last
[1:30:27] operate a golf course. Well,
come to find out at the last
meeting we now we got to have
[1:30:28] come to find out at the last
meeting we now we got to have
a majority interest in this
[1:30:29] meeting we now we got to have
a majority interest in this
golf course is a community
[1:30:31] a majority interest in this
golf course is a community
because this great golf
[1:30:32] golf course is a community
because this great golf
course, it’s going to be so
[1:30:33] because this great golf
course, it’s going to be so
successful may fail. And then
[1:30:35] course, it’s going to be so
successful may fail. And then
we got to hold the property.
[1:30:38] successful may fail. And then
we got to hold the property.
Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And
[1:30:40] we got to hold the property.
Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And
I just hope that you vote in
[1:30:44] Crazy, crazy, crazy ideas. And
I just hope that you vote in
conjunction with your legal
[1:30:45] I just hope that you vote in
conjunction with your legal
advice on this. Thank you.
[1:30:46] conjunction with your legal
advice on this. Thank you.
Thank you. Next, speaker.
[1:30:52] advice on this. Thank you.
Thank you. Next, speaker.
>> Excuse me, sir.
[1:30:54] Thank you. Next, speaker.
>> Excuse me, sir.
>> So their own eyes somehow
[1:30:55] >> Excuse me, sir.
>> So their own eyes somehow
we
[1:30:59] >> So their own eyes somehow
we
>> PJ off-camera, Citrus
[1:31:02] we
>> PJ off-camera, Citrus
County. I really, truly do not
[1:31:03] >> PJ off-camera, Citrus
County. I really, truly do not
want to be standing at this
[1:31:03] County. I really, truly do not
want to be standing at this
podium right now. I didn’t
[1:31:06] want to be standing at this
podium right now. I didn’t
come here to speak. I came
[1:31:07] podium right now. I didn’t
come here to speak. I came
here to support we fellow
[1:31:10] come here to speak. I came
here to support we fellow
community members and Pine
[1:31:11] here to support we fellow
community members and Pine
Ridge who I respect greatly
[1:31:11] community members and Pine
Ridge who I respect greatly
for the most part. And very
[1:31:15] Ridge who I respect greatly
for the most part. And very
much saddened that you all
[1:31:16] for the most part. And very
much saddened that you all
have chosen. To partner up
[1:31:19] much saddened that you all
have chosen. To partner up
with an out of town developer.
[1:31:24] have chosen. To partner up
with an out of town developer.
Who has proven already that he
[1:31:25] with an out of town developer.
Who has proven already that he
is not working in the
[1:31:27] Who has proven already that he
is not working in the
community’s best interest. We
[1:31:28] is not working in the
community’s best interest. We
can look at Crystal Oaks. We
[1:31:29] community’s best interest. We
can look at Crystal Oaks. We
can look at what he’s done
[1:31:31] can look at Crystal Oaks. We
can look at what he’s done
with that property that you
[1:31:31] can look at what he’s done
with that property that you
have approved for development.
[1:31:35] with that property that you
have approved for development.
His attorney has done things
[1:31:37] have approved for development.
His attorney has done things
that shouldn’t have been done.
[1:31:38] His attorney has done things
that shouldn’t have been done.
One of you actually tried to
[1:31:39] that shouldn’t have been done.
One of you actually tried to
shake him down last week. I’m
[1:31:41] One of you actually tried to
shake him down last week. I’m
not sure that you should be
[1:31:42] shake him down last week. I’m
not sure that you should be
allowed to vote because of
[1:31:45] not sure that you should be
allowed to vote because of
your comments about NIMBYism
[1:31:46] allowed to vote because of
your comments about NIMBYism
and your happiness to support
[1:31:48] your comments about NIMBYism
and your happiness to support
everything that Dixon Mr. Bats
[1:31:48] and your happiness to support
everything that Dixon Mr. Bats
will do. I think it’s
[1:31:52] everything that Dixon Mr. Bats
will do. I think it’s
inappropriate and I think you
[1:31:52] will do. I think it’s
inappropriate and I think you
are very wrong. I have heard
[1:31:58] inappropriate and I think you
are very wrong. I have heard
numerous numerous comments
[1:32:01] are very wrong. I have heard
numerous numerous comments
that Mr. Canard is spent an
[1:32:02] numerous numerous comments
that Mr. Canard is spent an
awful lot of private time with
[1:32:03] that Mr. Canard is spent an
awful lot of private time with
Mister Dix and he’s very
[1:32:04] awful lot of private time with
Mister Dix and he’s very
friendly. And I’ve also heard.
[1:32:09] Mister Dix and he’s very
friendly. And I’ve also heard.
They miss base who’s trying to
[1:32:10] friendly. And I’ve also heard.
They miss base who’s trying to
burn down the whole county on
[1:32:11] They miss base who’s trying to
burn down the whole county on
her way out because she’s
[1:32:12] burn down the whole county on
her way out because she’s
angry that the judge went
[1:32:14] her way out because she’s
angry that the judge went
against arrested the voters
[1:32:15] angry that the judge went
against arrested the voters
that she’s family to Mr.
[1:32:15] against arrested the voters
that she’s family to Mr.
Decks. I think she must be
[1:32:21] that she’s family to Mr.
Decks. I think she must be
recused from voting on this
[1:32:23] Decks. I think she must be
recused from voting on this
issue. She has very evident
[1:32:24] recused from voting on this
issue. She has very evident
that just fire full were not
[1:32:26] issue. She has very evident
that just fire full were not
saying rumors that we don’t
[1:32:29] that just fire full were not
saying rumors that we don’t
for sure issue not related to
[1:32:31] saying rumors that we don’t
for sure issue not related to
Mister Dix through the Lamb
[1:32:31] for sure issue not related to
Mister Dix through the Lamb
family. Well, I can ask that
[1:32:38] Mister Dix through the Lamb
family. Well, I can ask that
place. Okay. So I would
[1:32:41] family. Well, I can ask that
place. Okay. So I would
request that she recused
[1:32:42] place. Okay. So I would
request that she recused
herself from voting on this
[1:32:43] request that she recused
herself from voting on this
today. Thank you for your
[1:32:47] herself from voting on this
today. Thank you for your
comments next. Speaker. Just
[1:32:59] today. Thank you for your
comments next. Speaker. Just
state your name again, drew
[1:33:00] comments next. Speaker. Just
state your name again, drew
from clip Taos Ski. I do live
[1:33:01] state your name again, drew
from clip Taos Ski. I do live
in Pine Ridge just hearing a
[1:33:04] from clip Taos Ski. I do live
in Pine Ridge just hearing a
lot of emotions here, hearing
[1:33:06] in Pine Ridge just hearing a
lot of emotions here, hearing
a lot of parading hearing a
[1:33:09] lot of emotions here, hearing
a lot of parading hearing a
lot of Arab anger and a lot of
[1:33:10] a lot of parading hearing a
lot of Arab anger and a lot of
disrespect. Kind of just
[1:33:13] lot of Arab anger and a lot of
disrespect. Kind of just
wanted to give a little bit of
[1:33:13] disrespect. Kind of just
wanted to give a little bit of
respect to you all because you
[1:33:15] wanted to give a little bit of
respect to you all because you
do serve the community. We are
[1:33:18] respect to you all because you
do serve the community. We are
a republic. Some people forget
[1:33:20] do serve the community. We are
a republic. Some people forget
that we are a nation of laws.
[1:33:23] a republic. Some people forget
that we are a nation of laws.
Most people forget that
[1:33:23] that we are a nation of laws.
Most people forget that
especially on the road. I just
[1:33:28] Most people forget that
especially on the road. I just
want to remind you, as I said
[1:33:31] especially on the road. I just
want to remind you, as I said
before, dude, to do your due
[1:33:32] want to remind you, as I said
before, dude, to do your due
diligence, which you are. And
[1:33:34] before, dude, to do your due
diligence, which you are. And
you asked a lawyer, you got
[1:33:35] diligence, which you are. And
you asked a lawyer, you got
the legal opinion. I already
[1:33:39] you asked a lawyer, you got
the legal opinion. I already
told you I’m not for one way
[1:33:40] the legal opinion. I already
told you I’m not for one way
or the for trying to bring out
[1:33:44] told you I’m not for one way
or the for trying to bring out
bring about some type of
[1:33:44] or the for trying to bring out
bring about some type of
resolution, some type of
[1:33:48] bring about some type of
resolution, some type of
finality to this nonsense that
[1:33:50] resolution, some type of
finality to this nonsense that
has been going on for over 5
[1:33:51] finality to this nonsense that
has been going on for over 5
years. I’ve been there during
[1:33:53] has been going on for over 5
years. I’ve been there during
the process, not living there,
[1:33:54] years. I’ve been there during
the process, not living there,
but building a home. And I
[1:33:55] the process, not living there,
but building a home. And I
have watched this nonsense
[1:33:56] but building a home. And I
have watched this nonsense
going on.
[1:34:00] have watched this nonsense
going on.
>> I realize there’s a process
[1:34:01] going on.
>> I realize there’s a process
you’re following it. You must
[1:34:02] >> I realize there’s a process
you’re following it. You must
follow that process. That’s
[1:34:05] you’re following it. You must
follow that process. That’s
your job.
[1:34:05] follow that process. That’s
your job.
>> You will follow it legally.
[1:34:06] your job.
>> You will follow it legally.
You will follow the law. You
[1:34:07] >> You will follow it legally.
You will follow the law. You
would do what the law states
[1:34:08] You will follow the law. You
would do what the law states
you’ll do your due diligence
[1:34:11] would do what the law states
you’ll do your due diligence
and I agree with Mr. Canard
[1:34:12] you’ll do your due diligence
and I agree with Mr. Canard
that I don’t believe the judge
[1:34:15] and I agree with Mr. Canard
that I don’t believe the judge
got it right. And you say that
[1:34:18] that I don’t believe the judge
got it right. And you say that
the majority people here seem
[1:34:21] got it right. And you say that
the majority people here seem
agree with the judge, but you
[1:34:23] the majority people here seem
agree with the judge, but you
have the noisy majority here.
[1:34:27] agree with the judge, but you
have the noisy majority here.
And that you can tell that and
[1:34:29] have the noisy majority here.
And that you can tell that and
the disrespectful majority and
[1:34:30] And that you can tell that and
the disrespectful majority and
a lot of ways when they don’t
[1:34:30] the disrespectful majority and
a lot of ways when they don’t
seem to get their way. Again.
[1:34:33] a lot of ways when they don’t
seem to get their way. Again.
I don’t care which way it
[1:34:34] seem to get their way. Again.
I don’t care which way it
goes. I just want to see the
[1:34:36] I don’t care which way it
goes. I just want to see the
law followed. Do your due
[1:34:38] goes. I just want to see the
law followed. Do your due
diligence, make sure this was
[1:34:39] law followed. Do your due
diligence, make sure this was
right. I don’t believe it was
[1:34:41] diligence, make sure this was
right. I don’t believe it was
quashed as Mr. Canard said in
[1:34:45] right. I don’t believe it was
quashed as Mr. Canard said in
the legal sense of the way and
[1:34:46] quashed as Mr. Canard said in
the legal sense of the way and
it could cause problems from
[1:34:47] the legal sense of the way and
it could cause problems from
the past and in the future.
[1:34:49] it could cause problems from
the past and in the future.
And as I said, it’s just
[1:34:51] the past and in the future.
And as I said, it’s just
something that needs to be
[1:34:55] And as I said, it’s just
something that needs to be
restated rerun. You should be
[1:34:56] something that needs to be
restated rerun. You should be
able to do this without legal
[1:35:00] restated rerun. You should be
able to do this without legal
cost. If it’s a procedural
[1:35:00] able to do this without legal
cost. If it’s a procedural
problem. And you just correct
[1:35:04] cost. If it’s a procedural
problem. And you just correct
rectify the procedural
[1:35:07] problem. And you just correct
rectify the procedural
problem. You resubmit it or
[1:35:09] rectify the procedural
problem. You resubmit it or
you correct legal jargon. You
[1:35:11] problem. You resubmit it or
you correct legal jargon. You
probably heard they had to
[1:35:12] you correct legal jargon. You
probably heard they had to
restate the. What’s going to
[1:35:17] probably heard they had to
restate the. What’s going to
the voting for the the
[1:35:18] restate the. What’s going to
the voting for the the
property taxes. They had to
[1:35:19] the voting for the the
property taxes. They had to
rewrite that because the judge
[1:35:20] property taxes. They had to
rewrite that because the judge
said it was misleading. So
[1:35:24] rewrite that because the judge
said it was misleading. So
lets rewrite this. So it’s not
[1:35:25] said it was misleading. So
lets rewrite this. So it’s not
misleading one way or the
[1:35:26] lets rewrite this. So it’s not
misleading one way or the
other satisfy the law
[1:35:26] misleading one way or the
other satisfy the law
satisfied the people so that
[1:35:28] other satisfy the law
satisfied the people so that
there isn’t this
[1:35:29] satisfied the people so that
there isn’t this
argumentative. I commanded
[1:35:33] there isn’t this
argumentative. I commanded
process here that’s going on
[1:35:35] argumentative. I commanded
process here that’s going on
behind me that you have to
[1:35:36] process here that’s going on
behind me that you have to
listen to and B accused and
[1:35:40] behind me that you have to
listen to and B accused and
fingers pointed at. That’s not
[1:35:40] listen to and B accused and
fingers pointed at. That’s not
the way we do things. We’re
[1:35:44] fingers pointed at. That’s not
the way we do things. We’re
nation of laws. We respect
[1:35:45] the way we do things. We’re
nation of laws. We respect
that. We follow that. We
[1:35:46] nation of laws. We respect
that. We follow that. We
respect you.
[1:35:48] that. We follow that. We
respect you.
>> Next, speaker.
[1:35:58] respect you.
>> Next, speaker.
>> Iran was I spoke earlier.
[1:35:59] >> Next, speaker.
>> Iran was I spoke earlier.
You 3 or 5.
[1:36:04] >> Iran was I spoke earlier.
You 3 or 5.
>> We can say 5, but I
[1:36:04] You 3 or 5.
>> We can say 5, but I
probably use it all. I just
[1:36:06] >> We can say 5, but I
probably use it all. I just
wanted to talk about the
[1:36:08] probably use it all. I just
wanted to talk about the
motion that’s currently on on
[1:36:11] wanted to talk about the
motion that’s currently on on
the table was completely
[1:36:12] motion that’s currently on on
the table was completely
unexpected. Coming into this.
[1:36:16] the table was completely
unexpected. Coming into this.
>> Meeting here today, Andrews
[1:36:18] unexpected. Coming into this.
>> Meeting here today, Andrews
never talked about it was
[1:36:20] >> Meeting here today, Andrews
never talked about it was
French. I’m getting the
[1:36:23] never talked about it was
French. I’m getting the
understanding that there was
[1:36:24] French. I’m getting the
understanding that there was
some type of correspondents.
[1:36:27] understanding that there was
some type of correspondents.
That was given to the county
[1:36:29] some type of correspondents.
That was given to the county
from the applicants attorney.
[1:36:32] That was given to the county
from the applicants attorney.
If that’s correct. before
[1:36:35] from the applicants attorney.
If that’s correct. before
things are voted on, the
[1:36:38] If that’s correct. before
things are voted on, the
community has a chance to
[1:36:38] things are voted on, the
community has a chance to
voice an opinion and I think
[1:36:43] community has a chance to
voice an opinion and I think
we should in that letter. I
[1:36:44] voice an opinion and I think
we should in that letter. I
think we should know exactly
[1:36:45] we should in that letter. I
think we should know exactly
what the details of what Mr
[1:36:50] think we should know exactly
what the details of what Mr
Canard a commissioner can arch
[1:36:51] what the details of what Mr
Canard a commissioner can arch
about spoke about. We have no
[1:36:51] Canard a commissioner can arch
about spoke about. We have no
idea. What the deal you’re
[1:36:56] about spoke about. We have no
idea. What the deal you’re
voting on with the applicants
[1:36:59] idea. What the deal you’re
voting on with the applicants
attorney. To me that seems
[1:37:00] voting on with the applicants
attorney. To me that seems
like a conflict of interest
[1:37:03] attorney. To me that seems
like a conflict of interest
right across the top. Okay. We
[1:37:07] like a conflict of interest
right across the top. Okay. We
elected you to represent We
[1:37:09] right across the top. Okay. We
elected you to represent We
don’t elect you to Join in
[1:37:13] elected you to represent We
don’t elect you to Join in
hitch up with the developer on
[1:37:15] don’t elect you to Join in
hitch up with the developer on
an application that was found
[1:37:18] hitch up with the developer on
an application that was found
judgment not ordered you’re
[1:37:22] an application that was found
judgment not ordered you’re
not you’re not treating us
[1:37:23] judgment not ordered you’re
not you’re not treating us
fairly. Were here responding
[1:37:24] not you’re not treating us
fairly. Were here responding
to something that we haven’t
[1:37:26] fairly. Were here responding
to something that we haven’t
been given any knowledge of. I
[1:37:28] to something that we haven’t
been given any knowledge of. I
think that before this vote
[1:37:32] been given any knowledge of. I
think that before this vote
goes through. I think that
[1:37:34] think that before this vote
goes through. I think that
whatever that correspondence
[1:37:35] goes through. I think that
whatever that correspondence
was should be entered into the
[1:37:37] whatever that correspondence
was should be entered into the
record. I think the public
[1:37:38] was should be entered into the
record. I think the public
should have full knowledge of
[1:37:39] record. I think the public
should have full knowledge of
what it is. You’re voting on
[1:37:41] should have full knowledge of
what it is. You’re voting on
before you voting right now.
[1:37:42] what it is. You’re voting on
before you voting right now.
This is a a last-minute thing
[1:37:45] before you voting right now.
This is a a last-minute thing
that none of us have been made
[1:37:48] This is a a last-minute thing
that none of us have been made
aware of. And I don’t think
[1:37:49] that none of us have been made
aware of. And I don’t think
you’re being fair to the
[1:37:52] aware of. And I don’t think
you’re being fair to the
people elected you to
[1:37:52] you’re being fair to the
people elected you to
represent us. Thank you. Thank
[1:37:54] people elected you to
represent us. Thank you. Thank
you.
[1:37:57] represent us. Thank you. Thank
you.
>> So before forget to say, if
[1:37:58] you.
>> So before forget to say, if
the board all got an e-mail
[1:38:00] >> So before forget to say, if
the board all got an e-mail
that commissioner said, I
[1:38:01] the board all got an e-mail
that commissioner said, I
never got it. I’m sure I would
[1:38:06] that commissioner said, I
never got it. I’m sure I would
be left off of that. But I
[1:38:07] never got it. I’m sure I would
be left off of that. But I
would also be interested
[1:38:10] be left off of that. But I
would also be interested
someone could for that to
[1:38:12] would also be interested
someone could for that to
mean, I’d like to see what
[1:38:12] someone could for that to
mean, I’d like to see what
that says. And with many of
[1:38:15] mean, I’d like to see what
that says. And with many of
you, I don’t know what it
[1:38:16] that says. And with many of
you, I don’t know what it
says.
[1:38:23] you, I don’t know what it
says.
>> I’m ready if you’re ready.
[1:38:24] says.
>> I’m ready if you’re ready.
All right. Tavares rage. Well,
[1:38:27] >> I’m ready if you’re ready.
All right. Tavares rage. Well,
this is a surprise. oppose
[1:38:31] All right. Tavares rage. Well,
this is a surprise. oppose
Kuraly curious if there is a
[1:38:32] this is a surprise. oppose
Kuraly curious if there is a
precedent for anything like
[1:38:32] Kuraly curious if there is a
precedent for anything like
this. Anywhere before where
[1:38:38] precedent for anything like
this. Anywhere before where
board County commissioners
[1:38:42] this. Anywhere before where
board County commissioners
Wood working tandem with a
[1:38:43] board County commissioners
Wood working tandem with a
developer. 2. I mean, I so
[1:38:47] Wood working tandem with a
developer. 2. I mean, I so
appreciate your surprise. And
[1:38:51] developer. 2. I mean, I so
appreciate your surprise. And
confusion. Also, I would just
[1:38:51] appreciate your surprise. And
confusion. Also, I would just
say that and it’s been a lot
[1:38:54] confusion. Also, I would just
say that and it’s been a lot
of hearsay expressed here and
[1:38:55] say that and it’s been a lot
of hearsay expressed here and
I hate that stuff. One of the
[1:38:58] of hearsay expressed here and
I hate that stuff. One of the
reasons in my previous
[1:38:59] I hate that stuff. One of the
reasons in my previous
comments. The Ldc, the
[1:39:04] reasons in my previous
comments. The Ldc, the
comprehensive plan need to
[1:39:05] comments. The Ldc, the
comprehensive plan need to
line up because that’s where
[1:39:06] comprehensive plan need to
line up because that’s where
all this c*** comes from. It’s
[1:39:09] line up because that’s where
all this c*** comes from. It’s
not clear it’s not well
[1:39:10] all this c*** comes from. It’s
not clear it’s not well
defined and therefore
[1:39:14] not clear it’s not well
defined and therefore
developers have wiggle room
[1:39:14] defined and therefore
developers have wiggle room
around the laws. And that’s
[1:39:15] developers have wiggle room
around the laws. And that’s
what’s happening here. I’m I
[1:39:23] around the laws. And that’s
what’s happening here. I’m I
do know. Yeah. See, this would
[1:39:24] what’s happening here. I’m I
do know. Yeah. See, this would
be hearsay. I won’t say it.
[1:39:26] do know. Yeah. See, this would
be hearsay. I won’t say it.
But I know that the developers
[1:39:28] be hearsay. I won’t say it.
But I know that the developers
are confident that this is
[1:39:29] But I know that the developers
are confident that this is
going was going to be voted
[1:39:30] are confident that this is
going was going to be voted
down. I know that knew that
[1:39:34] going was going to be voted
down. I know that knew that
coming in here because that
[1:39:34] down. I know that knew that
coming in here because that
they were confident. I was
[1:39:35] coming in here because that
they were confident. I was
hoping it wasn’t true. I would
[1:39:37] they were confident. I was
hoping it wasn’t true. I would
be interested how Commissioner
[1:39:44] hoping it wasn’t true. I would
be interested how Commissioner
Canard and and I can’t ask you
[1:39:45] be interested how Commissioner
Canard and and I can’t ask you
a question, do expect answer.
[1:39:47] Canard and and I can’t ask you
a question, do expect answer.
But you were really well
[1:39:50] a question, do expect answer.
But you were really well
prepared for direct comments
[1:39:53] But you were really well
prepared for direct comments
to me. this wasn’t very well
[1:39:54] prepared for direct comments
to me. this wasn’t very well
prepared statement about how
[1:39:55] to me. this wasn’t very well
prepared statement about how
he would counter this and that
[1:40:00] prepared statement about how
he would counter this and that
you don’t want to be
[1:40:00] he would counter this and that
you don’t want to be
suspicious, but it was really
[1:40:02] you don’t want to be
suspicious, but it was really
well prepared. it just it
[1:40:06] suspicious, but it was really
well prepared. it just it
makes me nervous. I hope that
[1:40:11] well prepared. it just it
makes me nervous. I hope that
If you follow through with
[1:40:13] makes me nervous. I hope that
If you follow through with
this that you’re you are
[1:40:13] If you follow through with
this that you’re you are
prepared for the consequences
[1:40:14] this that you’re you are
prepared for the consequences
because this is a big deal.
[1:40:17] prepared for the consequences
because this is a big deal.
This this will this will hit
[1:40:18] because this is a big deal.
This this will this will hit
the news more than more than
[1:40:19] This this will this will hit
the news more than more than
the Chronicle. I would think.
[1:40:21] the news more than more than
the Chronicle. I would think.
It’s a big deal. So anyway,
[1:40:23] the Chronicle. I would think.
It’s a big deal. So anyway,
thank you.
[1:40:32] It’s a big deal. So anyway,
thank you.
>> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One
[1:40:34] thank you.
>> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One
sector.
[1:40:35] >> Renee Pasco. 43 me. One
sector.
>> Can you respond? Can
[1:40:37] sector.
>> Can you respond? Can
photos? You can’t?
[1:40:48] >> Can you respond? Can
photos? You can’t?
>> emails. So Commissioner
[1:40:50] photos? You can’t?
>> emails. So Commissioner
Kerik has in the email that
[1:40:50] >> emails. So Commissioner
Kerik has in the email that
she feels it may be apartment.
[1:40:54] Kerik has in the email that
she feels it may be apartment.
I mean, that would be
[1:40:54] she feels it may be apartment.
I mean, that would be
information that I don’t have
[1:40:58] I mean, that would be
information that I don’t have
I don’t see resettled if he’s
[1:40:58] information that I don’t have
I don’t see resettled if he’s
in the back, but is Reese able
[1:41:02] I don’t see resettled if he’s
in the back, but is Reese able
to pull that from her email
[1:41:02] in the back, but is Reese able
to pull that from her email
and then? Give us companies
[1:41:05] to pull that from her email
and then? Give us companies
families. It came from Mister
[1:41:12] and then? Give us companies
families. It came from Mister
Battle today.
[1:41:15] families. It came from Mister
Battle today.
>> I understand it was copied
[1:41:16] Battle today.
>> I understand it was copied
to all of you.
[1:41:20] >> I understand it was copied
to all of you.
>> Maybe a came. I checked all
[1:41:21] to all of you.
>> Maybe a came. I checked all
my e-mails this morning, maybe
[1:41:21] >> Maybe a came. I checked all
my e-mails this morning, maybe
11. 0, 7, would never say to
[1:41:24] my e-mails this morning, maybe
11. 0, 7, would never say to
OK? great. Thank you.
[1:41:34] 11. 0, 7, would never say to
OK? great. Thank you.
>> It did everyone read this
[1:41:34] OK? great. Thank you.
>> It did everyone read this
e-mail.
[1:41:47] >> It did everyone read this
e-mail.
>> Forget the one taken. If
[1:41:48] e-mail.
>> Forget the one taken. If
you want to settle, have you
[1:41:49] >> Forget the one taken. If
you want to settle, have you
right back. Muslim. Maybe you
[1:42:01] you want to settle, have you
right back. Muslim. Maybe you
should read it. Quiet, please.
[1:42:20] right back. Muslim. Maybe you
should read it. Quiet, please.
Publisher that a copy gets to
[1:42:20] should read it. Quiet, please.
Publisher that a copy gets to
the clerk’s office. Make sure
[1:42:24] Publisher that a copy gets to
the clerk’s office. Make sure
copy gets to you. just you
[1:42:27] the clerk’s office. Make sure
copy gets to you. just you
want me to read this. Please.
[1:42:32] copy gets to you. just you
want me to read this. Please.
Muslim, Mr. Scott and all
[1:42:34] want me to read this. Please.
Muslim, Mr. Scott and all
following our recent
[1:42:35] Muslim, Mr. Scott and all
following our recent
discussions. And prior to
[1:42:35] following our recent
discussions. And prior to
today’s special meeting.
[1:42:37] discussions. And prior to
today’s special meeting.
>> I am writing on behalf of
[1:42:38] today’s special meeting.
>> I am writing on behalf of
Southern Oaks Property Group
[1:42:39] >> I am writing on behalf of
Southern Oaks Property Group
LLC to request the county
[1:42:42] Southern Oaks Property Group
LLC to request the county
commissions support of an
[1:42:44] LLC to request the county
commissions support of an
appeal of the recent order
[1:42:44] commissions support of an
appeal of the recent order
issued in the case referenced
[1:42:46] appeal of the recent order
issued in the case referenced
above because I’m unable to
[1:42:48] issued in the case referenced
above because I’m unable to
attend today’s special meeting
[1:42:49] above because I’m unable to
attend today’s special meeting
due to a prior engagement. I
[1:42:51] attend today’s special meeting
due to a prior engagement. I
have blind copy to each county
[1:42:52] due to a prior engagement. I
have blind copy to each county
commissioner on this email.
[1:42:55] have blind copy to each county
commissioner on this email.
With all due respect to our
[1:42:56] commissioner on this email.
With all due respect to our
circuit court, we
[1:42:58] With all due respect to our
circuit court, we
wholeheartedly disagree with
[1:42:58] circuit court, we
wholeheartedly disagree with
the outcome of the appeal and
[1:43:00] wholeheartedly disagree with
the outcome of the appeal and
the reasoning upon which it
[1:43:01] the outcome of the appeal and
the reasoning upon which it
was based. Which disregarded
[1:43:04] the reasoning upon which it
was based. Which disregarded
the plain text of the statute
[1:43:06] was based. Which disregarded
the plain text of the statute
and ignored the county’s
[1:43:07] the plain text of the statute
and ignored the county’s
constitutional and statutory
[1:43:08] and ignored the county’s
constitutional and statutory
authority to make was a
[1:43:09] constitutional and statutory
authority to make was a
judicial decisions based upon
[1:43:11] authority to make was a
judicial decisions based upon
its comprehensive plan and
[1:43:12] judicial decisions based upon
its comprehensive plan and
land development code. I will
[1:43:15] its comprehensive plan and
land development code. I will
leave it to Mr. Scott, to
[1:43:16] land development code. I will
leave it to Mr. Scott, to
further explain any
[1:43:18] leave it to Mr. Scott, to
further explain any
substantive issues. But on
[1:43:19] further explain any
substantive issues. But on
behalf of my client, I will
[1:43:20] substantive issues. But on
behalf of my client, I will
convey that we are proceeding
[1:43:21] behalf of my client, I will
convey that we are proceeding
with an appeal. We hope you
[1:43:24] convey that we are proceeding
with an appeal. We hope you
will join us in this. Excuse
[1:43:24] with an appeal. We hope you
will join us in this. Excuse
me. We hope you will join in
[1:43:27] will join us in this. Excuse
me. We hope you will join in
this effort. You are very well
[1:43:30] me. We hope you will join in
this effort. You are very well
represented by Mister Scott
[1:43:33] this effort. You are very well
represented by Mister Scott
and I encourage the county to
[1:43:35] represented by Mister Scott
and I encourage the county to
defendant’s position through a
[1:43:37] and I encourage the county to
defendant’s position through a
direct petition if, however,
[1:43:38] defendant’s position through a
direct petition if, however,
the cost of an appeal is a
[1:43:40] direct petition if, however,
the cost of an appeal is a
concern, then we welcome the
[1:43:42] the cost of an appeal is a
concern, then we welcome the
county to participate in our
[1:43:43] concern, then we welcome the
county to participate in our
appeal as a co petitioner. We
[1:43:48] county to participate in our
appeal as a co petitioner. We
are some we quiet, please.
[1:43:51] appeal as a co petitioner. We
are some we quiet, please.
>> Quiet, please.
[1:43:56] are some we quiet, please.
>> Quiet, please.
>> I really don’t want to
[1:43:57] >> Quiet, please.
>> I really don’t want to
remove anyone. I’ve never had
[1:43:58] >> I really don’t want to
remove anyone. I’ve never had
to do that, sir. Please just
[1:43:59] remove anyone. I’ve never had
to do that, sir. Please just
let Muslim read the rest of
[1:44:00] to do that, sir. Please just
let Muslim read the rest of
the EMA.
[1:44:03] let Muslim read the rest of
the EMA.
>> We are similarly situated
[1:44:04] the EMA.
>> We are similarly situated
in defending the validity of
[1:44:06] >> We are similarly situated
in defending the validity of
the commission’s actions and
[1:44:07] in defending the validity of
the commission’s actions and
more broadly the authority of
[1:44:08] the commission’s actions and
more broadly the authority of
the commission. In applying
[1:44:12] more broadly the authority of
the commission. In applying
its comprehensive plan and
[1:44:13] the commission. In applying
its comprehensive plan and
code and the rezoning of
[1:44:14] its comprehensive plan and
code and the rezoning of
certain properties through the
[1:44:16] code and the rezoning of
certain properties through the
put process. That’s if you
[1:44:18] certain properties through the
put process. That’s if you
deem it best. If if you deem
[1:44:19] put process. That’s if you
deem it best. If if you deem
it the best course of action
[1:44:22] deem it best. If if you deem
it the best course of action
than we believe it would be
[1:44:22] it the best course of action
than we believe it would be
appropriate for the county to
[1:44:23] than we believe it would be
appropriate for the county to
join in our petition to be
[1:44:27] appropriate for the county to
join in our petition to be
prepared by our council at my
[1:44:29] join in our petition to be
prepared by our council at my
clients expense. We are very
[1:44:31] prepared by our council at my
clients expense. We are very
excited to be working with
[1:44:31] clients expense. We are very
excited to be working with
palace and ridge of Buchanan
[1:44:33] excited to be working with
palace and ridge of Buchanan
Ingersoll and Rooney who is
[1:44:37] palace and ridge of Buchanan
Ingersoll and Rooney who is
board certified in appellate
[1:44:37] Ingersoll and Rooney who is
board certified in appellate
practice and whose resume
[1:44:39] board certified in appellate
practice and whose resume
experience and reputation
[1:44:40] practice and whose resume
experience and reputation
speak for themselves. You can
[1:44:44] experience and reputation
speak for themselves. You can
find more information about MS
[1:44:45] speak for themselves. You can
find more information about MS
and ridge here and he’s got a
[1:44:46] find more information about MS
and ridge here and he’s got a
link. Thank you in advance for
[1:44:48] and ridge here and he’s got a
link. Thank you in advance for
your consideration. Sincerely
[1:44:49] link. Thank you in advance for
your consideration. Sincerely
raw battle. Thank you.
[1:44:52] your consideration. Sincerely
raw battle. Thank you.
>> I not realize that that. I
[1:44:57] raw battle. Thank you.
>> I not realize that that. I
stand even further on my
[1:44:58] >> I not realize that that. I
stand even further on my
position that seems wrong on
[1:44:59] stand even further on my
position that seems wrong on
every level. When it’s time
[1:45:03] position that seems wrong on
every level. When it’s time
for the board members to talk,
[1:45:03] every level. When it’s time
for the board members to talk,
maybe we can get another
[1:45:05] for the board members to talk,
maybe we can get another
attorneys opinion on that.
[1:45:09] maybe we can get another
attorneys opinion on that.
>> me. Maybe that was just up
[1:45:13] attorneys opinion on that.
>> me. Maybe that was just up
>> Sorry about that. Thank you
[1:45:16] >> me. Maybe that was just up
>> Sorry about that. Thank you
for your nation. Answer that
[1:45:17] >> Sorry about that. Thank you
for your nation. Answer that
are with someone say anything.
[1:45:19] for your nation. Answer that
are with someone say anything.
But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8,
[1:45:20] are with someone say anything.
But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8,
6 West Mustang Boulevard,
[1:45:21] But I’m Renee Pasco. 4, 3, 8,
6 West Mustang Boulevard,
Beverly Hills. And I just want
[1:45:22] 6 West Mustang Boulevard,
Beverly Hills. And I just want
to make a comment. If I
[1:45:26] Beverly Hills. And I just want
to make a comment. If I
understand correctly that
[1:45:26] to make a comment. If I
understand correctly that
offered that you just read,
[1:45:29] understand correctly that
offered that you just read,
does that mean that he’s doing
[1:45:30] offered that you just read,
does that mean that he’s doing
the cost of legal? And that
[1:45:34] does that mean that he’s doing
the cost of legal? And that
the county would not be paying
[1:45:34] the cost of legal? And that
the county would not be paying
legal fees. And if I
[1:45:39] the county would not be paying
legal fees. And if I
understand correctly date,
[1:45:40] legal fees. And if I
understand correctly date,
your legal counsel suggested
[1:45:41] understand correctly date,
your legal counsel suggested
that you appeal and now we
[1:45:43] your legal counsel suggested
that you appeal and now we
just thank to consider that
[1:45:46] that you appeal and now we
just thank to consider that
you both were sold on both
[1:45:47] just thank to consider that
you both were sold on both
sides from our our Pine Ridge.
[1:45:52] you both were sold on both
sides from our our Pine Ridge.
Equally. So that’s just how I
[1:45:54] sides from our our Pine Ridge.
Equally. So that’s just how I
see I would like you to
[1:45:55] Equally. So that’s just how I
see I would like you to
consider. Thank you. Thank
[1:45:55] see I would like you to
consider. Thank you. Thank
you. Next, Speaker.
[1:46:06] consider. Thank you. Thank
you. Next, Speaker.
>> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for
[1:46:08] you. Next, Speaker.
>> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for
4, 1, 2 North deck would drive
[1:46:09] >> Hey hi, Rhonda. Allen for
4, 1, 2 North deck would drive
Beverly Hills Pine Ridge.
[1:46:14] 4, 1, 2 North deck would drive
Beverly Hills Pine Ridge.
>> So I
[1:46:14] Beverly Hills Pine Ridge.
>> So I
>> would like to say that I’m
[1:46:15] >> So I
>> would like to say that I’m
not coming up here, too. Rally
[1:46:19] >> would like to say that I’m
not coming up here, too. Rally
votes for anyone here on the
[1:46:20] not coming up here, too. Rally
votes for anyone here on the
board nor rally against votes
[1:46:23] votes for anyone here on the
board nor rally against votes
for anyone here on the board.
[1:46:23] board nor rally against votes
for anyone here on the board.
I just think that that is. To
[1:46:26] for anyone here on the board.
I just think that that is. To
me that was threatening and
[1:46:28] I just think that that is. To
me that was threatening and
that’s just wrong. Anyway,
[1:46:31] me that was threatening and
that’s just wrong. Anyway,
that’s all I’m going to say
[1:46:33] that’s just wrong. Anyway,
that’s all I’m going to say
about that. It is also we have
[1:46:34] that’s all I’m going to say
about that. It is also we have
to keep focus on why we’re
[1:46:36] about that. It is also we have
to keep focus on why we’re
here and what the what you
[1:46:38] to keep focus on why we’re
here and what the what you
guys are actually ruling. The
[1:46:41] here and what the what you
guys are actually ruling. The
decision is whether the Citrus
[1:46:45] guys are actually ruling. The
decision is whether the Citrus
Court, circuit court has made
[1:46:46] decision is whether the Citrus
Court, circuit court has made
the wrong decision their vote.
[1:46:50] Court, circuit court has made
the wrong decision their vote.
And it is my understanding and
[1:46:51] the wrong decision their vote.
And it is my understanding and
we listened to Joanna could
[1:46:55] And it is my understanding and
we listened to Joanna could
tow at the last bocc meeting
[1:46:57] we listened to Joanna could
tow at the last bocc meeting
when we were here talking on
[1:46:58] tow at the last bocc meeting
when we were here talking on
this same topic, she had said
[1:47:01] when we were here talking on
this same topic, she had said
that this property, this golf
[1:47:03] this same topic, she had said
that this property, this golf
course property is not a dri
[1:47:07] that this property, this golf
course property is not a dri
and it was designated before
[1:47:11] course property is not a dri
and it was designated before
the dri I understand even was
[1:47:12] and it was designated before
the dri I understand even was
a thing. So. This ruling.
[1:47:17] the dri I understand even was
a thing. So. This ruling.
We’re talking about not
[1:47:18] a thing. So. This ruling.
We’re talking about not
spending more money from the
[1:47:21] We’re talking about not
spending more money from the
county. This ruling is going
[1:47:23] spending more money from the
county. This ruling is going
to have all of you spending
[1:47:24] county. This ruling is going
to have all of you spending
more of our county taxpayer
[1:47:26] to have all of you spending
more of our county taxpayer
dollars because you have to go
[1:47:27] more of our county taxpayer
dollars because you have to go
back in history and look at
[1:47:29] dollars because you have to go
back in history and look at
the decisions that have been
[1:47:31] back in history and look at
the decisions that have been
made. So any which way with
[1:47:35] the decisions that have been
made. So any which way with
their decision is nay favor or
[1:47:37] made. So any which way with
their decision is nay favor or
against there’s more money
[1:47:38] their decision is nay favor or
against there’s more money
that’s going to be spent in
[1:47:40] against there’s more money
that’s going to be spent in
the county as a result of this
[1:47:41] that’s going to be spent in
the county as a result of this
decision in the circuit court.
[1:47:46] the county as a result of this
decision in the circuit court.
in my opinion, I think we have
[1:47:48] decision in the circuit court.
in my opinion, I think we have
to continue and go forward
[1:47:50] in my opinion, I think we have
to continue and go forward
because it’s going to affect
[1:47:55] to continue and go forward
because it’s going to affect
future decisions. The Dri
[1:47:56] because it’s going to affect
future decisions. The Dri
decision, too, was taken
[1:47:57] future decisions. The Dri
decision, too, was taken
outside of the county in the
[1:48:00] decision, too, was taken
outside of the county in the
circuit court. It wasn’t made
[1:48:01] outside of the county in the
circuit court. It wasn’t made
in this county. So I don’t
[1:48:04] circuit court. It wasn’t made
in this county. So I don’t
know what happened there in
[1:48:05] in this county. So I don’t
know what happened there in
all due respect, manage I’m
[1:48:06] know what happened there in
all due respect, manage I’m
not a lawyer. Or a judge, they
[1:48:12] all due respect, manage I’m
not a lawyer. Or a judge, they
made a decision that’s going
[1:48:12] not a lawyer. Or a judge, they
made a decision that’s going
to affect everybody, including
[1:48:17] made a decision that’s going
to affect everybody, including
a residence and it’s not
[1:48:18] to affect everybody, including
a residence and it’s not
accurate as the attorney here
[1:48:18] a residence and it’s not
accurate as the attorney here
mentioning. Thank you.
[1:48:22] accurate as the attorney here
mentioning. Thank you.
>> Just next speaker, just to
[1:48:25] mentioning. Thank you.
>> Just next speaker, just to
reiterate that Madam Attorney,
[1:48:27] >> Just next speaker, just to
reiterate that Madam Attorney,
this doesn’t affect any past
[1:48:27] reiterate that Madam Attorney,
this doesn’t affect any past
decisions because they don’t
[1:48:29] this doesn’t affect any past
decisions because they don’t
be past their 30 Correct? We
[1:48:32] decisions because they don’t
be past their 30 Correct? We
don’t believe it’ll affect any
[1:48:33] be past their 30 Correct? We
don’t believe it’ll affect any
past decisions, but it is.
[1:48:36] don’t believe it’ll affect any
past decisions, but it is.
Within your purview to take
[1:48:37] past decisions, but it is.
Within your purview to take
remedial action, too. Make
[1:48:38] Within your purview to take
remedial action, too. Make
sure that it doesn’t affect
[1:48:39] remedial action, too. Make
sure that it doesn’t affect
any. Dale Well, a circle in
[1:48:50] sure that it doesn’t affect
any. Dale Well, a circle in
Pine Ridge. This just strikes
[1:48:51] any. Dale Well, a circle in
Pine Ridge. This just strikes
me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I
[1:48:52] Pine Ridge. This just strikes
me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I
disagree with you that.
[1:48:55] me as wrong. I’m sorry. I I
disagree with you that.
>> I feel like.
[1:49:00] disagree with you that.
>> I feel like.
>> Your.
[1:49:01] >> I feel like.
>> Your.
>> Using developer money to
[1:49:02] >> Your.
>> Using developer money to
fight your own. Constituents.
[1:49:05] >> Using developer money to
fight your own. Constituents.
This just strikes me as That’s
[1:49:06] fight your own. Constituents.
This just strikes me as That’s
just plain fun.
[1:49:09] This just strikes me as That’s
just plain fun.
>> Thank u next speaker. Last
[1:49:13] just plain fun.
>> Thank u next speaker. Last
chance for Speaker.
[1:49:31] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am
[1:49:32] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am
more upset than they’ve ever
[1:49:34] >> Welcome. Thank you. I am
more upset than they’ve ever
been. And your name Robyn or
[1:49:36] more upset than they’ve ever
been. And your name Robyn or
Landy. And I’m speaking for
[1:49:36] been. And your name Robyn or
Landy. And I’m speaking for
myself 3 minutes. I’m going to
[1:49:39] Landy. And I’m speaking for
myself 3 minutes. I’m going to
read because it’s inexcusable
[1:49:45] myself 3 minutes. I’m going to
read because it’s inexcusable
that a last-minute email
[1:49:47] read because it’s inexcusable
that a last-minute email
documents submitted by a
[1:49:48] that a last-minute email
documents submitted by a
developer’s attorney is again
[1:49:48] documents submitted by a
developer’s attorney is again
attempting to drive the
[1:49:50] developer’s attorney is again
attempting to drive the
outcome. The Citrus County
[1:49:52] attempting to drive the
outcome. The Citrus County
public meeting and
[1:49:54] outcome. The Citrus County
public meeting and
disenfranchise the public at
[1:49:55] public meeting and
disenfranchise the public at
residential investment in both
[1:49:56] disenfranchise the public at
residential investment in both
property and our local
[1:49:57] residential investment in both
property and our local
government. Find a different
[1:50:00] property and our local
government. Find a different
way to cure the implications
[1:50:01] government. Find a different
way to cure the implications
of the circuit court decision.
[1:50:04] way to cure the implications
of the circuit court decision.
Joining with the developer’s
[1:50:05] of the circuit court decision.
Joining with the developer’s
attorney to save county money
[1:50:08] Joining with the developer’s
attorney to save county money
against the majority request
[1:50:09] attorney to save county money
against the majority request
of the citizens present today
[1:50:11] against the majority request
of the citizens present today
and outstanding. Listening to
[1:50:12] of the citizens present today
and outstanding. Listening to
this meeting, we’ll put a
[1:50:14] and outstanding. Listening to
this meeting, we’ll put a
stink on public trust to this
[1:50:15] this meeting, we’ll put a
stink on public trust to this
poor. That’s not going to go
[1:50:15] stink on public trust to this
poor. That’s not going to go
away. Taking the time to
[1:50:19] poor. That’s not going to go
away. Taking the time to
decide the legality and cures
[1:50:21] away. Taking the time to
decide the legality and cures
for the dri to put language
[1:50:22] decide the legality and cures
for the dri to put language
will delay pending, made away
[1:50:26] for the dri to put language
will delay pending, made away
pending developments. But
[1:50:27] will delay pending, made away
pending developments. But
there has to be a better
[1:50:28] pending developments. But
there has to be a better
approach and one that will
[1:50:29] there has to be a better
approach and one that will
allow you to create additional
[1:50:32] approach and one that will
allow you to create additional
guardrails to amend outdated,
[1:50:33] allow you to create additional
guardrails to amend outdated,
40 year-old process is to
[1:50:34] guardrails to amend outdated,
40 year-old process is to
better serve our communities
[1:50:36] 40 year-old process is to
better serve our communities
in the contemporary era. And
[1:50:40] better serve our communities
in the contemporary era. And
better service instead of
[1:50:41] in the contemporary era. And
better service instead of
passively following a major
[1:50:44] better service instead of
passively following a major
developers, attorneys lead
[1:50:47] passively following a major
developers, attorneys lead
take the lead, our yourselves
[1:50:49] developers, attorneys lead
take the lead, our yourselves
to protect the nature coast
[1:50:51] take the lead, our yourselves
to protect the nature coast
against unwise, rapid
[1:50:52] to protect the nature coast
against unwise, rapid
development that fails to
[1:50:54] against unwise, rapid
development that fails to
represent the stated interests
[1:50:55] development that fails to
represent the stated interests
of the residents before you
[1:50:56] represent the stated interests
of the residents before you
today. And the long term
[1:50:59] of the residents before you
today. And the long term
conservation in quality of
[1:51:00] today. And the long term
conservation in quality of
life, interest of Citrus
[1:51:02] conservation in quality of
life, interest of Citrus
County. I know you guys know a
[1:51:04] life, interest of Citrus
County. I know you guys know a
lot more about this and the
[1:51:04] County. I know you guys know a
lot more about this and the
majority of us too. But please
[1:51:09] lot more about this and the
majority of us too. But please
represent us and what’s best.
[1:51:11] majority of us too. But please
represent us and what’s best.
You’ve got other alternatives,
[1:51:12] represent us and what’s best.
You’ve got other alternatives,
unsure to address this. And as
[1:51:15] You’ve got other alternatives,
unsure to address this. And as
a taxpayer, I don’t mind
[1:51:15] unsure to address this. And as
a taxpayer, I don’t mind
paying for separate counsel. I
[1:51:17] a taxpayer, I don’t mind
paying for separate counsel. I
know that that’s a big issue.
[1:51:19] paying for separate counsel. I
know that that’s a big issue.
An amendment 3 is out there
[1:51:20] know that that’s a big issue.
An amendment 3 is out there
terrorizing everyone. But
[1:51:23] An amendment 3 is out there
terrorizing everyone. But
there’s got to be a better way
[1:51:24] terrorizing everyone. But
there’s got to be a better way
working with the developer,
[1:51:26] there’s got to be a better way
working with the developer,
especially someone that’s in
[1:51:26] working with the developer,
especially someone that’s in
such a huge impact in this
[1:51:27] especially someone that’s in
such a huge impact in this
county unless. Unless they
[1:51:31] such a huge impact in this
county unless. Unless they
change their tune 180 degrees.
[1:51:35] county unless. Unless they
change their tune 180 degrees.
That’s not the way to go
[1:51:35] change their tune 180 degrees.
That’s not the way to go
dollars. So thank you very
[1:51:36] That’s not the way to go
dollars. So thank you very
much. glad I’m not in your
[1:51:36] dollars. So thank you very
much. glad I’m not in your
seat. Thank you.
[1:51:39] much. glad I’m not in your
seat. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last chance
[1:51:43] seat. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last chance
for Speaker.
[1:51:48] >> Next, Speaker. Last chance
for Speaker.
>> Closing the open to the
[1:51:49] for Speaker.
>> Closing the open to the
public portion know. I I want
[1:51:56] >> Closing the open to the
public portion know. I I want
to ask you to what kind legal
[1:52:00] public portion know. I I want
to ask you to what kind legal
ramifications comes against
[1:52:01] to ask you to what kind legal
ramifications comes against
the county, if where citing? I
[1:52:06] ramifications comes against
the county, if where citing? I
mean, obviously, even if
[1:52:07] the county, if where citing? I
mean, obviously, even if
there’s no legal
[1:52:08] mean, obviously, even if
there’s no legal
ramifications, I agree Mr or
[1:52:11] there’s no legal
ramifications, I agree Mr or
landed. There will be a stink
[1:52:12] ramifications, I agree Mr or
landed. There will be a stink
on this board that that they
[1:52:13] landed. There will be a stink
on this board that that they
will not get off. But legally,
[1:52:15] on this board that that they
will not get off. But legally,
what issues to see. Having the
[1:52:24] will not get off. But legally,
what issues to see. Having the
developer, the other party pay
[1:52:26] what issues to see. Having the
developer, the other party pay
for the legal fees for the
[1:52:27] developer, the other party pay
for the legal fees for the
county? I think what? I think
[1:52:32] for the legal fees for the
county? I think what? I think
what is being suggested by way
[1:52:33] county? I think what? I think
what is being suggested by way
of that e-mail, if I can offer
[1:52:35] what is being suggested by way
of that e-mail, if I can offer
my.
[1:52:36] of that e-mail, if I can offer
my.
>> My interpretation because
[1:52:36] my.
>> My interpretation because
it’s not uncommon. Picture
[1:52:39] >> My interpretation because
it’s not uncommon. Picture
that you may see in cases like
[1:52:40] it’s not uncommon. Picture
that you may see in cases like
this. It’s it’s not in the
[1:52:45] that you may see in cases like
this. It’s it’s not in the
vein of let us handle and
[1:52:48] this. It’s it’s not in the
vein of let us handle and
control the county’s actions
[1:52:48] vein of let us handle and
control the county’s actions
with regard to this appeal.
[1:52:51] control the county’s actions
with regard to this appeal.
The the overture in the offer
[1:52:52] with regard to this appeal.
The the overture in the offer
is that. Southern Oaks is
[1:52:55] The the overture in the offer
is that. Southern Oaks is
saying they are pursuing an
[1:52:57] is that. Southern Oaks is
saying they are pursuing an
appeal and they will file
[1:52:58] saying they are pursuing an
appeal and they will file
there. Their brief, their
[1:53:01] appeal and they will file
there. Their brief, their
petition. What they are
[1:53:04] there. Their brief, their
petition. What they are
suggesting or inviting is for
[1:53:05] petition. What they are
suggesting or inviting is for
the county to file what we
[1:53:08] suggesting or inviting is for
the county to file what we
call notice of joined are or
[1:53:11] the county to file what we
call notice of joined are or
some kind of document and uses
[1:53:13] call notice of joined are or
some kind of document and uses
that word. It’s a term of art.
[1:53:15] some kind of document and uses
that word. It’s a term of art.
Joined are which we see a lot
[1:53:17] that word. It’s a term of art.
Joined are which we see a lot
in litigation where one party
[1:53:19] Joined are which we see a lot
in litigation where one party
will file a document with the
[1:53:21] in litigation where one party
will file a document with the
court and will say we are
[1:53:24] will file a document with the
court and will say we are
adopting the same arguments.
[1:53:25] court and will say we are
adopting the same arguments.
Is this other party? We’re
[1:53:26] adopting the same arguments.
Is this other party? We’re
just not going to. Prepare an
[1:53:29] Is this other party? We’re
just not going to. Prepare an
entire document that basically
[1:53:30] just not going to. Prepare an
entire document that basically
says the exact same argument.
[1:53:33] entire document that basically
says the exact same argument.
We’re just going to file this
[1:53:34] says the exact same argument.
We’re just going to file this
one-page joined or it’s it’s
[1:53:38] We’re just going to file this
one-page joined or it’s it’s
in the vein of a document that
[1:53:39] one-page joined or it’s it’s
in the vein of a document that
says we agree with the legal
[1:53:39] in the vein of a document that
says we agree with the legal
position and we submit we
[1:53:42] says we agree with the legal
position and we submit we
submit that position as our
[1:53:44] position and we submit we
submit that position as our
own position. So I think
[1:53:45] submit that position as our
own position. So I think
that’s probably not now the
[1:53:48] own position. So I think
that’s probably not now the
question is yours as to
[1:53:49] that’s probably not now the
question is yours as to
whether to do that. But I do
[1:53:52] question is yours as to
whether to do that. But I do
think it’s fair to frame the
[1:53:53] whether to do that. But I do
think it’s fair to frame the
offer that’s made in the
[1:53:55] think it’s fair to frame the
offer that’s made in the
email. To the extent it might
[1:53:56] offer that’s made in the
email. To the extent it might
be red one way or the other.
[1:54:00] email. To the extent it might
be red one way or the other.
But I think it’s it’s
[1:54:02] be red one way or the other.
But I think it’s it’s
suggesting a a classic notice
[1:54:03] But I think it’s it’s
suggesting a a classic notice
of joined in their brief if
[1:54:04] suggesting a a classic notice
of joined in their brief if
and when filed. Thank you.
[1:54:08] of joined in their brief if
and when filed. Thank you.
>> Commissioner yeah.
[1:54:12] and when filed. Thank you.
>> Commissioner yeah.
>> I was its peak. But since
[1:54:13] >> Commissioner yeah.
>> I was its peak. But since
Mister landed that I I feel
[1:54:15] >> I was its peak. But since
Mister landed that I I feel
like I need to respond. Thank
[1:54:18] Mister landed that I I feel
like I need to respond. Thank
you for understanding how
[1:54:21] like I need to respond. Thank
you for understanding how
complex the job this job is
[1:54:22] you for understanding how
complex the job this job is
about, how many different
[1:54:24] complex the job this job is
about, how many different
things and Mr. Scott, perhaps
[1:54:26] about, how many different
things and Mr. Scott, perhaps
the one sentence Lehman
[1:54:29] things and Mr. Scott, perhaps
the one sentence Lehman
version of what you said
[1:54:31] the one sentence Lehman
version of what you said
earlier was legal precedent
[1:54:32] version of what you said
earlier was legal precedent
that imperils home rule
[1:54:33] earlier was legal precedent
that imperils home rule
because the the state keeps
[1:54:37] that imperils home rule
because the the state keeps
telling us what we can do and
[1:54:38] because the the state keeps
telling us what we can do and
can’t do and they don’t have
[1:54:39] telling us what we can do and
can’t do and they don’t have
boots on the ground. For all
[1:54:44] can’t do and they don’t have
boots on the ground. For all
those who cited the tag line
[1:54:46] boots on the ground. For all
those who cited the tag line
nature in community Thrive.
[1:54:47] those who cited the tag line
nature in community Thrive.
Thank you. I actually wrote
[1:54:47] nature in community Thrive.
Thank you. I actually wrote
that. And I do live by that. I
[1:54:53] Thank you. I actually wrote
that. And I do live by that. I
lived in Pine Ridge for over 4
[1:54:53] that. And I do live by that. I
lived in Pine Ridge for over 4
years. And those of you who
[1:54:57] lived in Pine Ridge for over 4
years. And those of you who
feel betrayed by me. I’m
[1:54:59] years. And those of you who
feel betrayed by me. I’m
pretty disappointed in you,
[1:55:00] feel betrayed by me. I’m
pretty disappointed in you,
too. Because you had 80 homes
[1:55:04] pretty disappointed in you,
too. Because you had 80 homes
on a golf course. And I
[1:55:05] too. Because you had 80 homes
on a golf course. And I
believe my math said you could
[1:55:06] on a golf course. And I
believe my math said you could
bought it for about 10,000
[1:55:09] believe my math said you could
bought it for about 10,000
acre and then have a nature
[1:55:11] bought it for about 10,000
acre and then have a nature
preserve in your backyard.
[1:55:11] acre and then have a nature
preserve in your backyard.
That’s what I really wanted
[1:55:12] preserve in your backyard.
That’s what I really wanted
for. Pine Ridge. And so at the
[1:55:15] That’s what I really wanted
for. Pine Ridge. And so at the
end of that court, okay. 501.
[1:55:19] for. Pine Ridge. And so at the
end of that court, okay. 501.
I said you got your chance go
[1:55:19] end of that court, okay. 501.
I said you got your chance go
do it. And you didn’t do it.
[1:55:24] I said you got your chance go
do it. And you didn’t do it.
And we can’t just let that sit
[1:55:25] do it. And you didn’t do it.
And we can’t just let that sit
and sit and sit and sit and
[1:55:27] And we can’t just let that sit
and sit and sit and sit and
set. So I’ve said enough, I’m
[1:55:31] and sit and sit and sit and
set. So I’ve said enough, I’m
I’m sorry that I disappointed
[1:55:31] set. So I’ve said enough, I’m
I’m sorry that I disappointed
some of you and doesn’t really
[1:55:35] I’m sorry that I disappointed
some of you and doesn’t really
matter. I may or may not run
[1:55:36] some of you and doesn’t really
matter. I may or may not run
again. And I’m not taking any
[1:55:36] matter. I may or may not run
again. And I’m not taking any
debts money. I’ve already said
[1:55:38] again. And I’m not taking any
debts money. I’ve already said
that over and over again. So
[1:55:40] debts money. I’ve already said
that over and over again. So
thank you. I appreciate the
[1:55:41] that over and over again. So
thank you. I appreciate the
honor of serving has a look at
[1:55:48] thank you. I appreciate the
honor of serving has a look at
this.
[1:55:49] honor of serving has a look at
this.
>> If the rest of you want to
[1:55:49] this.
>> If the rest of you want to
do an appeal. We do it for the
[1:55:52] >> If the rest of you want to
do an appeal. We do it for the
county on our own because that
[1:55:54] do an appeal. We do it for the
county on our own because that
we are the county. Okay. And
[1:55:58] county on our own because that
we are the county. Okay. And
that that’s how I feel, OK, we
[1:56:00] we are the county. Okay. And
that that’s how I feel, OK, we
pay as a county and we move
[1:56:02] that that’s how I feel, OK, we
pay as a county and we move
forward as a county. We need
[1:56:06] pay as a county and we move
forward as a county. We need
to, in the meantime decide to
[1:56:09] forward as a county. We need
to, in the meantime decide to
draw up new Dri amendment
[1:56:10] to, in the meantime decide to
draw up new Dri amendment
procedures. For amending Dr
[1:56:13] draw up new Dri amendment
procedures. For amending Dr
Eyes in the future. And that’s
[1:56:15] procedures. For amending Dr
Eyes in the future. And that’s
one of the biggest things we
[1:56:16] Eyes in the future. And that’s
one of the biggest things we
need to do. We have say yet we
[1:56:21] one of the biggest things we
need to do. We have say yet we
are going to write a new dri
[1:56:22] need to do. We have say yet we
are going to write a new dri
amendment procedure. For
[1:56:26] are going to write a new dri
amendment procedure. For
future. Now, I know it doesn’t
[1:56:27] amendment procedure. For
future. Now, I know it doesn’t
affect just one year because
[1:56:28] future. Now, I know it doesn’t
affect just one year because
it doesn’t grandfathered in,
[1:56:30] affect just one year because
it doesn’t grandfathered in,
but I think that’s what we
[1:56:32] it doesn’t grandfathered in,
but I think that’s what we
should be doing today. And I
[1:56:36] but I think that’s what we
should be doing today. And I
really think that this is a
[1:56:36] should be doing today. And I
really think that this is a
conflict of interest from
[1:56:38] really think that this is a
conflict of interest from
bunch of reasons. But at this
[1:56:41] conflict of interest from
bunch of reasons. But at this
point, I’m just going to sit
[1:56:42] bunch of reasons. But at this
point, I’m just going to sit
back and wait for the vote.
[1:56:44] point, I’m just going to sit
back and wait for the vote.
And humans.
[1:56:50] back and wait for the vote.
And humans.
>> Over the past, I would say
[1:56:51] And humans.
>> Over the past, I would say
probably week or so. There
[1:56:52] >> Over the past, I would say
probably week or so. There
have been. Not a lot of few
[1:56:56] probably week or so. There
have been. Not a lot of few
conversations with our
[1:56:58] have been. Not a lot of few
conversations with our
attorney as those considering
[1:57:01] conversations with our
attorney as those considering
what to do here. An appeal on
[1:57:03] attorney as those considering
what to do here. An appeal on
our own. Was costly. I totally
[1:57:10] what to do here. An appeal on
our own. Was costly. I totally
disagree with the ruling of
[1:57:10] our own. Was costly. I totally
disagree with the ruling of
the judge. But did not want
[1:57:15] disagree with the ruling of
the judge. But did not want
county taxpayers to bear the
[1:57:16] the judge. But did not want
county taxpayers to bear the
burden of that. And so. As
[1:57:20] county taxpayers to bear the
burden of that. And so. As
Muslim and I talked about it
[1:57:22] burden of that. And so. As
Muslim and I talked about it
at the, you know, the options
[1:57:26] Muslim and I talked about it
at the, you know, the options
presented were you can accept
[1:57:27] at the, you know, the options
presented were you can accept
the ruling and disagree with
[1:57:29] presented were you can accept
the ruling and disagree with
that but accept it. You can
[1:57:32] the ruling and disagree with
that but accept it. You can
appeal it or if the applicant
[1:57:34] that but accept it. You can
appeal it or if the applicant
does file an appeal, we could
[1:57:38] appeal it or if the applicant
does file an appeal, we could
do, you know, go as a co
[1:57:41] does file an appeal, we could
do, you know, go as a co
petitioner or she also
[1:57:43] do, you know, go as a co
petitioner or she also
expressed, though, some of the
[1:57:44] petitioner or she also
expressed, though, some of the
Dale also used essentially
[1:57:46] expressed, though, some of the
Dale also used essentially
saying. We agree with their
[1:57:49] Dale also used essentially
saying. We agree with their
position, whatever that paper
[1:57:50] saying. We agree with their
position, whatever that paper
in legally XYZ. And so coming
[1:57:55] position, whatever that paper
in legally XYZ. And so coming
into today, those were the
[1:57:56] in legally XYZ. And so coming
into today, those were the
things that I was considering
[1:57:59] into today, those were the
things that I was considering
disagreeing with the with the
[1:58:01] things that I was considering
disagreeing with the with the
decision. I would like to see
[1:58:03] disagreeing with the with the
decision. I would like to see
an appeal. I don’t want to pay
[1:58:03] decision. I would like to see
an appeal. I don’t want to pay
a dollar fort, but if the
[1:58:06] an appeal. I don’t want to pay
a dollar fort, but if the
applicant is going appeal,
[1:58:08] a dollar fort, but if the
applicant is going appeal,
then I would agree with their
[1:58:08] applicant is going appeal,
then I would agree with their
position. Anyone
[1:58:13] then I would agree with their
position. Anyone
>> Commissioner Ms.
[1:58:19] position. Anyone
>> Commissioner Ms.
>> I’m probably the outlier. I
[1:58:20] >> Commissioner Ms.
>> I’m probably the outlier. I
disagree with the the ruling,
[1:58:24] >> I’m probably the outlier. I
disagree with the the ruling,
but I do believe that we
[1:58:25] disagree with the the ruling,
but I do believe that we
should defend our own
[1:58:26] but I do believe that we
should defend our own
ordinance and our own process.
[1:58:30] should defend our own
ordinance and our own process.
Standing independent. I don’t
[1:58:31] ordinance and our own process.
Standing independent. I don’t
really want to spend the
[1:58:31] Standing independent. I don’t
really want to spend the
money. Can you tell us
[1:58:32] really want to spend the
money. Can you tell us
approximately what you think
[1:58:33] money. Can you tell us
approximately what you think
this would cost? We have ask
[1:58:37] approximately what you think
this would cost? We have ask
Mr. Scott. If I just
[1:58:42] this would cost? We have ask
Mr. Scott. If I just
>> off the top of my head 15
[1:58:42] Mr. Scott. If I just
>> off the top of my head 15
to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe
[1:58:46] >> off the top of my head 15
to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe
more. Part of it will be
[1:58:46] to 20,000. Maybe less. Maybe
more. Part of it will be
dependent upon the various
[1:58:50] more. Part of it will be
dependent upon the various
arguments made by the parties.
[1:58:51] dependent upon the various
arguments made by the parties.
Any motions filed, whether we
[1:58:51] arguments made by the parties.
Any motions filed, whether we
have oral argument. But if I
[1:58:54] Any motions filed, whether we
have oral argument. But if I
truly back of the talk my head
[1:58:56] have oral argument. But if I
truly back of the talk my head
15 to 20.
[1:58:59] truly back of the talk my head
15 to 20.
>> I feel like we’re in a
[1:59:02] 15 to 20.
>> I feel like we’re in a
no-win situation. If we stand
[1:59:05] >> I feel like we’re in a
no-win situation. If we stand
alone and we just say we
[1:59:06] no-win situation. If we stand
alone and we just say we
disagree with it and we do
[1:59:06] alone and we just say we
disagree with it and we do
nothing. Dick’s Development or
[1:59:16] disagree with it and we do
nothing. Dick’s Development or
whoever they are southern.
[1:59:17] nothing. Dick’s Development or
whoever they are southern.
They go ahead and they file
[1:59:17] whoever they are southern.
They go ahead and they file
their motion. And we do
[1:59:21] They go ahead and they file
their motion. And we do
nothing. We’re going to be
[1:59:22] their motion. And we do
nothing. We’re going to be
criticized for that. And if
[1:59:23] nothing. We’re going to be
criticized for that. And if
they went because we didn’t
[1:59:25] criticized for that. And if
they went because we didn’t
defend our position, if we
[1:59:26] they went because we didn’t
defend our position, if we
spend the money, we’re going
[1:59:27] defend our position, if we
spend the money, we’re going
to be criticized because we’re
[1:59:28] spend the money, we’re going
to be criticized because we’re
defending our position. I have
[1:59:29] to be criticized because we’re
defending our position. I have
no interest in.
[1:59:32] defending our position. I have
no interest in.
>> Being party. To their suit.
[1:59:36] no interest in.
>> Being party. To their suit.
I want to stay and stand
[1:59:37] >> Being party. To their suit.
I want to stay and stand
independent So that would that
[1:59:39] I want to stay and stand
independent So that would that
would be where I would land.
[1:59:44] independent So that would that
would be where I would land.
Well, that’s not the motion at
[1:59:45] would be where I would land.
Well, that’s not the motion at
hand. So we’ll see what
[1:59:45] Well, that’s not the motion at
hand. So we’ll see what
happens with this one.
[1:59:47] hand. So we’ll see what
happens with this one.
>> Anyone else. But I call it.
[1:59:50] happens with this one.
>> Anyone else. But I call it.
>> All those in favor. Aye.
[1:59:53] >> Anyone else. But I call it.
>> All those in favor. Aye.
Any opposed motion fails 3, 2,
[2:00:02] >> All those in favor. Aye.
Any opposed motion fails 3, 2,
>> I’d like to make a motion
[2:00:03] Any opposed motion fails 3, 2,
>> I’d like to make a motion
that we do the appeal on our
[2:00:05] >> I’d like to make a motion
that we do the appeal on our
own and not spend more than
[2:00:06] that we do the appeal on our
own and not spend more than
$30,000.
[2:00:14] own and not spend more than
$30,000.
>> Motion by Commissioner
[2:00:16] $30,000.
>> Motion by Commissioner
Kerik second by commissioner
[2:00:16] >> Motion by Commissioner
Kerik second by commissioner
pays any public comment.
[2:00:28] Kerik second by commissioner
pays any public comment.
>> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge.
[2:00:31] pays any public comment.
>> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge.
Okay. Just so understand what
[2:00:32] >> Yes, I’m back again. Ridge.
Okay. Just so understand what
you’re talking about. I’m a
[2:00:35] Okay. Just so understand what
you’re talking about. I’m a
taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I
[2:00:38] you’re talking about. I’m a
taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I
have to pay for both sides of
[2:00:39] taxpayer and Pine Ridge. I
have to pay for both sides of
this argument. Which is pretty
[2:00:43] have to pay for both sides of
this argument. Which is pretty
darn ridiculous. Because you
[2:00:47] this argument. Which is pretty
darn ridiculous. Because you
won’t go back and fix whatever
[2:00:51] darn ridiculous. Because you
won’t go back and fix whatever
law or rulli ordinances. You
[2:00:52] won’t go back and fix whatever
law or rulli ordinances. You
all have. Why don’t you do
[2:00:54] law or rulli ordinances. You
all have. Why don’t you do
that? First? Then all of this
[2:00:58] all have. Why don’t you do
that? First? Then all of this
will be okay. It doesn’t make
[2:01:02] that? First? Then all of this
will be okay. It doesn’t make
any sense people really back
[2:01:03] will be okay. It doesn’t make
any sense people really back
and forth, OK? So we go to the
[2:01:06] any sense people really back
and forth, OK? So we go to the
appellate court, then what do
[2:01:07] and forth, OK? So we go to the
appellate court, then what do
we do? Go to the state Supreme
[2:01:08] appellate court, then what do
we do? Go to the state Supreme
Court? I mean, really how far
[2:01:09] we do? Go to the state Supreme
Court? I mean, really how far
we’re going to take it? Pine
[2:01:12] Court? I mean, really how far
we’re going to take it? Pine
Ridge is already showing you
[2:01:13] we’re going to take it? Pine
Ridge is already showing you
that we’re not backing down.
[2:01:17] Ridge is already showing you
that we’re not backing down.
OK, we the people, the
[2:01:17] that we’re not backing down.
OK, we the people, the
majority of us are not backing
[2:01:21] OK, we the people, the
majority of us are not backing
down. We will take this all
[2:01:22] majority of us are not backing
down. We will take this all
the way through or if we have
[2:01:22] down. We will take this all
the way through or if we have
to. Okay. But you need to
[2:01:29] the way through or if we have
to. Okay. But you need to
understand that me the
[2:01:30] to. Okay. But you need to
understand that me the
taxpayer has foot the bill
[2:01:31] understand that me the
taxpayer has foot the bill
both sides. Thank you. Thank
[2:01:32] taxpayer has foot the bill
both sides. Thank you. Thank
you.
[2:01:34] both sides. Thank you. Thank
you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last chance
[2:01:39] you.
>> Next, Speaker. Last chance
for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d
[2:01:50] >> Next, Speaker. Last chance
for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d
like to offer 3rd choice.
[2:01:55] for Speaker. Click or ski. I’d
like to offer 3rd choice.
>> Giving You have already
[2:01:59] like to offer 3rd choice.
>> Giving You have already
said that you’d like to reject
[2:02:00] >> Giving You have already
said that you’d like to reject
it. And then. Instead of
[2:02:03] said that you’d like to reject
it. And then. Instead of
fighting it. Rectify it. I
[2:02:06] it. And then. Instead of
fighting it. Rectify it. I
keep saying that if you would
[2:02:09] fighting it. Rectify it. I
keep saying that if you would
correct the deficiency rectify
[2:02:10] keep saying that if you would
correct the deficiency rectify
for any future. Already said
[2:02:13] correct the deficiency rectify
for any future. Already said
you’re don’t think it’ll
[2:02:14] for any future. Already said
you’re don’t think it’ll
affect the past ones wrecked
[2:02:15] you’re don’t think it’ll
affect the past ones wrecked
the fight for the future. Make
[2:02:18] affect the past ones wrecked
the fight for the future. Make
that your stand.
[2:02:21] the fight for the future. Make
that your stand.
>> You already know that the
[2:02:24] that your stand.
>> You already know that the
the one who proposed all this
[2:02:26] >> You already know that the
the one who proposed all this
is going to fight it. Let them
[2:02:27] the one who proposed all this
is going to fight it. Let them
go ahead and do that. If they
[2:02:29] is going to fight it. Let them
go ahead and do that. If they
come up with a positive
[2:02:30] go ahead and do that. If they
come up with a positive
ruling, you can go with that
[2:02:31] come up with a positive
ruling, you can go with that
and he can refile. It may take
[2:02:35] ruling, you can go with that
and he can refile. It may take
a little longer for him, but
[2:02:37] and he can refile. It may take
a little longer for him, but
you can save face that way, at
[2:02:38] a little longer for him, but
you can save face that way, at
least just rectify the dri
[2:02:41] you can save face that way, at
least just rectify the dri
process. If that’s what it
[2:02:42] least just rectify the dri
process. If that’s what it
needs it, I can hear that.
[2:02:44] process. If that’s what it
needs it, I can hear that.
There isn’t really a process.
[2:02:47] needs it, I can hear that.
There isn’t really a process.
That this was moved. heard all
[2:02:51] There isn’t really a process.
That this was moved. heard all
of that. You may even go into
[2:02:52] That this was moved. heard all
of that. You may even go into
it and find the dri process
[2:02:54] of that. You may even go into
it and find the dri process
was moved all as well. But how
[2:02:56] it and find the dri process
was moved all as well. But how
do you get rid of a judge’s
[2:02:56] was moved all as well. But how
do you get rid of a judge’s
squash? That would be done by
[2:02:59] do you get rid of a judge’s
squash? That would be done by
the person who proposed. And
[2:03:02] squash? That would be done by
the person who proposed. And
you don’t have to spend any
[2:03:02] the person who proposed. And
you don’t have to spend any
money. As I keep saying
[2:03:05] you don’t have to spend any
money. As I keep saying
procedure, rectify it and move
[2:03:07] money. As I keep saying
procedure, rectify it and move
on. That should just be your
[2:03:10] procedure, rectify it and move
on. That should just be your
internal stuff. You don’t
[2:03:11] on. That should just be your
internal stuff. You don’t
always have to use legal. You
[2:03:12] internal stuff. You don’t
always have to use legal. You
may have to Usually go to file
[2:03:13] always have to use legal. You
may have to Usually go to file
the new paperwork. But that’s
[2:03:14] may have to Usually go to file
the new paperwork. But that’s
typical. Just my opinion of
[2:03:17] the new paperwork. But that’s
typical. Just my opinion of
and another possibility. Thank
[2:03:21] typical. Just my opinion of
and another possibility. Thank
you.
[2:03:21] and another possibility. Thank
you.
>> It was my first
[2:03:22] you.
>> It was my first
possibility. Remember, it
[2:03:23] >> It was my first
possibility. Remember, it
failed. started. Next.
[2:03:25] possibility. Remember, it
failed. started. Next.
Speaker. Last chance for
[2:03:28] failed. started. Next.
Speaker. Last chance for
Speaker.
[2:03:43] >> Greetings once again. Kerry
[2:03:44] >> Greetings once again. Kerry
Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve
[2:03:48] >> Greetings once again. Kerry
Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve
heard this correctly. There’s
[2:03:49] Dean Pine Ridge. I think I’ve
heard this correctly. There’s
no exposure to past cases. So
[2:03:54] heard this correctly. There’s
no exposure to past cases. So
no one can come back
[2:03:58] no exposure to past cases. So
no one can come back
>> litigate against past
[2:03:58] no one can come back
>> litigate against past
approvals and developments
[2:03:59] >> litigate against past
approvals and developments
that are complete because 30
[2:04:01] approvals and developments
that are complete because 30
days has passed. What we’re
[2:04:06] that are complete because 30
days has passed. What we’re
facing here is soon as you put
[2:04:07] days has passed. What we’re
facing here is soon as you put
Citrus County commissioners or
[2:04:07] facing here is soon as you put
Citrus County commissioners or
the the county and a lawsuit
[2:04:12] Citrus County commissioners or
the the county and a lawsuit
with Dick’s. What have you
[2:04:12] the the county and a lawsuit
with Dick’s. What have you
done? You’ve created a bond
[2:04:16] with Dick’s. What have you
done? You’ve created a bond
that says absolutely all the
[2:04:18] done? You’ve created a bond
that says absolutely all the
jargon out there is we have a
[2:04:21] that says absolutely all the
jargon out there is we have a
board that works for decks.
[2:04:23] jargon out there is we have a
board that works for decks.
What for? It’s over. Let it
[2:04:27] board that works for decks.
What for? It’s over. Let it
go. Let picks to us things
[2:04:27] What for? It’s over. Let it
go. Let picks to us things
are. He said he’s going to do
[2:04:28] go. Let picks to us things
are. He said he’s going to do
it. But keep us clean. Keep
[2:04:32] are. He said he’s going to do
it. But keep us clean. Keep
your reputations intact. Don’t
[2:04:35] it. But keep us clean. Keep
your reputations intact. Don’t
join this because it’s a
[2:04:36] your reputations intact. Don’t
join this because it’s a
failed attempt and it will
[2:04:38] join this because it’s a
failed attempt and it will
ruin the reputation of our
[2:04:40] failed attempt and it will
ruin the reputation of our
county and our board.
[2:04:49] ruin the reputation of our
county and our board.
>> Happening next, speaker
[2:04:50] county and our board.
>> Happening next, speaker
last chance for Speaker.
[2:04:53] >> Happening next, speaker
last chance for Speaker.
>> closing the public portion
[2:04:56] last chance for Speaker.
>> closing the public portion
Commissioner Kerik, I hope you
[2:04:58] >> closing the public portion
Commissioner Kerik, I hope you
do. You vote against your own
[2:05:00] Commissioner Kerik, I hope you
do. You vote against your own
motion. There’s no way I’m
[2:05:02] do. You vote against your own
motion. There’s no way I’m
voting for spending $30,000 or
[2:05:02] motion. There’s no way I’m
voting for spending $30,000 or
less. Taxpayer money to fight
[2:05:08] voting for spending $30,000 or
less. Taxpayer money to fight
the people. So I hope he would
[2:05:09] less. Taxpayer money to fight
the people. So I hope he would
reconsider that. Commissioner
[2:05:12] the people. So I hope he would
reconsider that. Commissioner
mayor, I okay.
[2:05:14] reconsider that. Commissioner
mayor, I okay.
>> The only reason I came up
[2:05:15] mayor, I okay.
>> The only reason I came up
with this is because we need
[2:05:18] >> The only reason I came up
with this is because we need
to do something. I want to go
[2:05:18] with this is because we need
to do something. I want to go
back to the original that we
[2:05:20] to do something. I want to go
back to the original that we
don’t do anything. But it
[2:05:24] back to the original that we
don’t do anything. But it
didn’t pass. I really do not
[2:05:26] don’t do anything. But it
didn’t pass. I really do not
want to tied with developer.
[2:05:32] didn’t pass. I really do not
want to tied with developer.
And if our attorney over
[2:05:32] want to tied with developer.
And if our attorney over
numbers Dale says it, it’s
[2:05:35] And if our attorney over
numbers Dale says it, it’s
going to be around 15 to
[2:05:35] numbers Dale says it, it’s
going to be around 15 to
$20,000. It’s a lot of money,
[2:05:38] going to be around 15 to
$20,000. It’s a lot of money,
but it’s not a lot of money.
[2:05:40] $20,000. It’s a lot of money,
but it’s not a lot of money.
Most people have a car. car
[2:05:45] but it’s not a lot of money.
Most people have a car. car
question a lot more than 15 to
[2:05:47] Most people have a car. car
question a lot more than 15 to
$20,000. So the thing is
[2:05:50] question a lot more than 15 to
$20,000. So the thing is
that’s where I’m coming from
[2:05:51] $20,000. So the thing is
that’s where I’m coming from
on looking. I want to spend
[2:05:51] that’s where I’m coming from
on looking. I want to spend
any money. If I have to. I
[2:05:56] on looking. I want to spend
any money. If I have to. I
withdraw my motion. Go back to
[2:05:57] any money. If I have to. I
withdraw my motion. Go back to
our first motion to begin
[2:05:58] withdraw my motion. Go back to
our first motion to begin
with, which was do nothing as
[2:06:01] our first motion to begin
with, which was do nothing as
get a 3 to vote. Because it’s
[2:06:05] with, which was do nothing as
get a 3 to vote. Because it’s
still the same meeting and I’m
[2:06:06] get a 3 to vote. Because it’s
still the same meeting and I’m
allowed to do that at this
[2:06:07] still the same meeting and I’m
allowed to do that at this
point. As far as I know,
[2:06:08] allowed to do that at this
point. As far as I know,
correct. gym and a journey. It
[2:06:11] point. As far as I know,
correct. gym and a journey. It
hasn’t been voted on yet. So
[2:06:13] correct. gym and a journey. It
hasn’t been voted on yet. So
you all can. Yeah, I could
[2:06:17] hasn’t been voted on yet. So
you all can. Yeah, I could
take this one back and then we
[2:06:19] you all can. Yeah, I could
take this one back and then we
be yours. As long as your
[2:06:19] take this one back and then we
be yours. As long as your
second takes or second back.
[2:06:20] be yours. As long as your
second takes or second back.
Okay. Because it at this
[2:06:25] second takes or second back.
Okay. Because it at this
point, I really don’t want to
[2:06:27] Okay. Because it at this
point, I really don’t want to
spend any money. And I really
[2:06:28] point, I really don’t want to
spend any money. And I really
don’t want to do this. But if
[2:06:30] spend any money. And I really
don’t want to do this. But if
that’s the only way we’re
[2:06:30] don’t want to do this. But if
that’s the only way we’re
going to do it. Commissioner,
[2:06:35] that’s the only way we’re
going to do it. Commissioner,
do you want to take back your
[2:06:36] going to do it. Commissioner,
do you want to take back your
second? I’ll take back. My
[2:06:36] do you want to take back your
second? I’ll take back. My
first go back to the first
[2:06:38] second? I’ll take back. My
first go back to the first
motion to not do anything at
[2:06:38] first go back to the first
motion to not do anything at
this point. And let the
[2:06:43] motion to not do anything at
this point. And let the
developer spend all his money
[2:06:43] this point. And let the
developer spend all his money
and we don’t spend anything. I
[2:06:47] developer spend all his money
and we don’t spend anything. I
want one clarification.
[2:06:49] and we don’t spend anything. I
want one clarification.
>> I
[2:06:54] want one clarification.
>> I
>> completely. Dismayed at the
[2:06:59] >> I
>> completely. Dismayed at the
fact that we’re said they were
[2:07:00] >> completely. Dismayed at the
fact that we’re said they were
having a special meeting. And
[2:07:06] fact that we’re said they were
having a special meeting. And
if councils things that we
[2:07:07] having a special meeting. And
if councils things that we
can. They disagree with this.
[2:07:11] if councils things that we
can. They disagree with this.
But if we just fix or code or
[2:07:13] can. They disagree with this.
But if we just fix or code or
ordinance that fixes
[2:07:14] But if we just fix or code or
ordinance that fixes
everything and we don’t have
[2:07:16] ordinance that fixes
everything and we don’t have
to participate. So why weren’t
[2:07:18] everything and we don’t have
to participate. So why weren’t
we communicated that before we
[2:07:19] to participate. So why weren’t
we communicated that before we
ever got into this special
[2:07:19] we communicated that before we
ever got into this special
meeting? Where I’m perplexed?
[2:07:28] ever got into this special
meeting? Where I’m perplexed?
Outrageous that we haven’t had
[2:07:31] meeting? Where I’m perplexed?
Outrageous that we haven’t had
those conversations and why we
[2:07:32] Outrageous that we haven’t had
those conversations and why we
ended up having a special
[2:07:33] those conversations and why we
ended up having a special
meeting. If this is where
[2:07:33] ended up having a special
meeting. If this is where
we’re at. So what you’re
[2:07:42] meeting. If this is where
we’re at. So what you’re
telling me from council is
[2:07:43] we’re at. So what you’re
telling me from council is
that. If we don’t join this or
[2:07:48] telling me from council is
that. If we don’t join this or
if we don’t file our own KSAT
[2:07:52] that. If we don’t join this or
if we don’t file our own KSAT
me, it doesn’t really mean
[2:07:53] if we don’t file our own KSAT
me, it doesn’t really mean
anything. It’s just that we’re
[2:07:53] me, it doesn’t really mean
anything. It’s just that we’re
doing it for the sake of
[2:07:54] anything. It’s just that we’re
doing it for the sake of
saying that we disagree with
[2:07:55] doing it for the sake of
saying that we disagree with
the judge’s order and all we
[2:07:58] saying that we disagree with
the judge’s order and all we
need to do is go back and fix
[2:08:00] the judge’s order and all we
need to do is go back and fix
our ordinance. Well, the
[2:08:03] need to do is go back and fix
our ordinance. Well, the
question of whether to
[2:08:06] our ordinance. Well, the
question of whether to
>> pursue an appeal and
[2:08:08] question of whether to
>> pursue an appeal and
whether take any action to
[2:08:08] >> pursue an appeal and
whether take any action to
modify or amend the ordinance.
[2:08:09] whether take any action to
modify or amend the ordinance.
There are separate questions
[2:08:12] modify or amend the ordinance.
There are separate questions
legally. You can you can do
[2:08:12] There are separate questions
legally. You can you can do
one. You can Both of you can
[2:08:15] legally. You can you can do
one. You can Both of you can
do neither. It is not uncommon
[2:08:16] one. You can Both of you can
do neither. It is not uncommon
in litigation situations. Even
[2:08:20] do neither. It is not uncommon
in litigation situations. Even
if let’s say we have prevailed
[2:08:20] in litigation situations. Even
if let’s say we have prevailed
with the circuit court in the
[2:08:21] if let’s say we have prevailed
with the circuit court in the
case were over, that you could
[2:08:24] with the circuit court in the
case were over, that you could
take a second look at any up
[2:08:25] case were over, that you could
take a second look at any up
like regulations and decide.
[2:08:28] take a second look at any up
like regulations and decide.
We want to tighten these up.
[2:08:30] like regulations and decide.
We want to tighten these up.
We want to change them up and
[2:08:30] We want to tighten these up.
We want to change them up and
make them bulletproof. We want
[2:08:31] We want to change them up and
make them bulletproof. We want
to make them read a different
[2:08:32] make them bulletproof. We want
to make them read a different
way. So that’s an option that
[2:08:36] to make them read a different
way. So that’s an option that
exists independent of moving
[2:08:37] way. So that’s an option that
exists independent of moving
through the litigation. So
[2:08:39] exists independent of moving
through the litigation. So
it’s not an either either or
[2:08:43] through the litigation. So
it’s not an either either or
situation. You can end. And
[2:08:44] it’s not an either either or
situation. You can end. And
you can see the appeal.
[2:08:47] situation. You can end. And
you can see the appeal.
>> And pursuing the appeal do
[2:08:47] you can see the appeal.
>> And pursuing the appeal do
for us. There may be
[2:08:54] >> And pursuing the appeal do
for us. There may be
questions. It is true that
[2:08:56] for us. There may be
questions. It is true that
parties had 30 days in the
[2:08:57] questions. It is true that
parties had 30 days in the
past to pursue Ritson search
[2:08:58] parties had 30 days in the
past to pursue Ritson search
your E with regard to past.
[2:09:01] past to pursue Ritson search
your E with regard to past.
Approvals. But there may be.
[2:09:04] your E with regard to past.
Approvals. But there may be.
The maybe ancillary legal
[2:09:08] Approvals. But there may be.
The maybe ancillary legal
ramifications with regard to
[2:09:09] The maybe ancillary legal
ramifications with regard to
past actions and rulings that
[2:09:10] ramifications with regard to
past actions and rulings that
this current order could
[2:09:12] past actions and rulings that
this current order could
possibly effect. Now, that’s
[2:09:17] this current order could
possibly effect. Now, that’s
speculation depending on
[2:09:17] possibly effect. Now, that’s
speculation depending on
what’s happened in the past.
[2:09:18] speculation depending on
what’s happened in the past.
It is. That goes back to the
[2:09:22] what’s happened in the past.
It is. That goes back to the
point of ensuring the
[2:09:23] It is. That goes back to the
point of ensuring the
integrity of the current code
[2:09:27] point of ensuring the
integrity of the current code
as written and avoiding the
[2:09:28] integrity of the current code
as written and avoiding the
uncertainties and risks a
[2:09:30] as written and avoiding the
uncertainties and risks a
ruling which again, I would do
[2:09:31] uncertainties and risks a
ruling which again, I would do
us having certain infirmities.
[2:09:34] ruling which again, I would do
us having certain infirmities.
But again, that is even though
[2:09:37] us having certain infirmities.
But again, that is even though
we may disagree with the
[2:09:38] But again, that is even though
we may disagree with the
court’s ruling could be made
[2:09:40] we may disagree with the
court’s ruling could be made
seek to have a higher court
[2:09:43] court’s ruling could be made
seek to have a higher court
overturned the lower court and
[2:09:46] seek to have a higher court
overturned the lower court and
find that the county’s
[2:09:47] overturned the lower court and
find that the county’s
regulations and process
[2:09:48] find that the county’s
regulations and process
followed were in accordance to
[2:09:49] regulations and process
followed were in accordance to
the law. That is not to say
[2:09:51] followed were in accordance to
the law. That is not to say
there’s not always an
[2:09:51] the law. That is not to say
there’s not always an
opportunity for improvement
[2:09:53] there’s not always an
opportunity for improvement
for clarification or efforts
[2:09:54] opportunity for improvement
for clarification or efforts
to make to make better again,
[2:09:57] for clarification or efforts
to make to make better again,
I don’t think it’s an either
[2:09:59] to make to make better again,
I don’t think it’s an either
or and I don’t think it should
[2:10:01] I don’t think it’s an either
or and I don’t think it should
be frame like that because it
[2:10:01] or and I don’t think it should
be frame like that because it
is typical and often occurs in
[2:10:03] be frame like that because it
is typical and often occurs in
litigation that decisions are
[2:10:05] is typical and often occurs in
litigation that decisions are
made on the back end to change
[2:10:07] litigation that decisions are
made on the back end to change
things and then things correct
[2:10:09] made on the back end to change
things and then things correct
things. But that’s not to say
[2:10:11] things and then things correct
things. But that’s not to say
that that warrants or
[2:10:13] things. But that’s not to say
that that warrants or
justifies forgoing appeal as
[2:10:14] that that warrants or
justifies forgoing appeal as
to the current immediate
[2:10:14] justifies forgoing appeal as
to the current immediate
effects of the ruling.
[2:10:19] to the current immediate
effects of the ruling.
>> In what one thing that
[2:10:19] effects of the ruling.
>> In what one thing that
Adele didn’t mention was you
[2:10:20] >> In what one thing that
Adele didn’t mention was you
also have to look at the
[2:10:22] Adele didn’t mention was you
also have to look at the
underlying decision. If you
[2:10:24] also have to look at the
underlying decision. If you
don’t appeal that underline
[2:10:25] underlying decision. If you
don’t appeal that underline
decision of the court
[2:10:27] don’t appeal that underline
decision of the court
squashing your approval of the
[2:10:28] decision of the court
squashing your approval of the
development. Stan’s. The
[2:10:35] squashing your approval of the
development. Stan’s. The
applicant is going to appeal.
[2:10:37] development. Stan’s. The
applicant is going to appeal.
I mean, I’m sure they are
[2:10:38] applicant is going to appeal.
I mean, I’m sure they are
hopeful that they prevail and
[2:10:39] I mean, I’m sure they are
hopeful that they prevail and
that would reinstate the
[2:10:39] hopeful that they prevail and
that would reinstate the
underline decision. But that
[2:10:42] that would reinstate the
underline decision. But that
is one big thing about the
[2:10:44] underline decision. But that
is one big thing about the
appeal that Dale didn’t
[2:10:46] is one big thing about the
appeal that Dale didn’t
mention that. I wanted to make
[2:10:47] appeal that Dale didn’t
mention that. I wanted to make
sure you are thinking about
[2:10:47] mention that. I wanted to make
sure you are thinking about
because if you if you don’t
[2:10:50] sure you are thinking about
because if you if you don’t
appeal that decision is
[2:10:52] because if you if you don’t
appeal that decision is
squashed. So there is no
[2:10:53] appeal that decision is
squashed. So there is no
approval of the development
[2:10:53] squashed. So there is no
approval of the development
plan. That’s there. That’s not
[2:11:01] approval of the development
plan. That’s there. That’s not
for us to fight and some. No,
[2:11:02] plan. That’s there. That’s not
for us to fight and some. No,
but I’m trying to make sure
[2:11:03] for us to fight and some. No,
but I’m trying to make sure
that we get a complete answer
[2:11:04] but I’m trying to make sure
that we get a complete answer
to the commissioners
[2:11:04] that we get a complete answer
to the commissioners
questions. So you know, yes,
[2:11:08] to the commissioners
questions. So you know, yes,
you can absolutely change your
[2:11:10] questions. So you know, yes,
you can absolutely change your
coat to fix the underlying
[2:11:10] you can absolutely change your
coat to fix the underlying
problem. The excuse me, the
[2:11:13] coat to fix the underlying
problem. The excuse me, the
the wording that the court
[2:11:15] problem. The excuse me, the
the wording that the court
didn’t like. But that
[2:11:17] the wording that the court
didn’t like. But that
underlined decision, the
[2:11:17] didn’t like. But that
underlined decision, the
approval of the development
[2:11:19] underlined decision, the
approval of the development
that would be up in the air
[2:11:21] approval of the development
that would be up in the air
until the developer completes
[2:11:21] that would be up in the air
until the developer completes
their appeal. And then there
[2:11:24] until the developer completes
their appeal. And then there
still. A potential that.
[2:11:33] their appeal. And then there
still. A potential that.
Anything else that we’ve
[2:11:33] still. A potential that.
Anything else that we’ve
approved in the past are
[2:11:34] Anything else that we’ve
approved in the past are
saying it’s not that that that
[2:11:36] approved in the past are
saying it’s not that that that
but if somebody wanted to
[2:11:36] saying it’s not that that that
but if somebody wanted to
challenge that, that would
[2:11:37] but if somebody wanted to
challenge that, that would
make it easier for them to
[2:11:38] challenge that, that would
make it easier for them to
challenge.
[2:11:40] make it easier for them to
challenge.
>> there
[2:11:41] challenge.
>> there
>> are a lot of creative
[2:11:41] >> there
>> are a lot of creative
lawyers out there that can
[2:11:43] >> are a lot of creative
lawyers out there that can
come up with creative
[2:11:44] lawyers out there that can
come up with creative
arguments as to how ruling
[2:11:47] come up with creative
arguments as to how ruling
that’s issued by a circuit
[2:11:48] arguments as to how ruling
that’s issued by a circuit
court today may affect legal
[2:11:49] that’s issued by a circuit
court today may affect legal
consequences as the things in
[2:11:50] court today may affect legal
consequences as the things in
the past. A bit speculative.
[2:11:54] consequences as the things in
the past. A bit speculative.
But those kinds of arguments
[2:11:55] the past. A bit speculative.
But those kinds of arguments
are not unheard of.
[2:11:59] But those kinds of arguments
are not unheard of.
>> But it but the but the way
[2:12:00] are not unheard of.
>> But it but the but the way
the way that we do business
[2:12:01] >> But it but the but the way
the way that we do business
right now is. Pretty much
[2:12:04] the way that we do business
right now is. Pretty much
standard across the state
[2:12:04] right now is. Pretty much
standard across the state
with. Most counties.
[2:12:10] standard across the state
with. Most counties.
>> I generally speaking, yes,
[2:12:11] with. Most counties.
>> I generally speaking, yes,
it’s I would say every
[2:12:11] >> I generally speaking, yes,
it’s I would say every
county’s a little different.
[2:12:13] it’s I would say every
county’s a little different.
But yes, generally speaking.
[2:12:17] county’s a little different.
But yes, generally speaking.
>> I think that staff looked
[2:12:18] But yes, generally speaking.
>> I think that staff looked
at other communities to see.
[2:12:20] >> I think that staff looked
at other communities to see.
And I think the Lake County.
[2:12:24] at other communities to see.
And I think the Lake County.
Code was the only code that
[2:12:25] And I think the Lake County.
Code was the only code that
was found. And that was the
[2:12:29] Code was the only code that
was found. And that was the
one that Judson mental is from
[2:12:30] was found. And that was the
one that Judson mental is from
Lake County. That’s where he
[2:12:31] one that Judson mental is from
Lake County. That’s where he
retired. And that’s the code
[2:12:32] Lake County. That’s where he
retired. And that’s the code
that he used. I think we’re
[2:12:41] retired. And that’s the code
that he used. I think we’re
just on a slippery s****. I
[2:12:44] that he used. I think we’re
just on a slippery s****. I
mean, the legislature is.
[2:12:48] just on a slippery s****. I
mean, the legislature is.
Coming hard and fast for local
[2:12:49] mean, the legislature is.
Coming hard and fast for local
governments.
[2:12:53] Coming hard and fast for local
governments.
>> We see the eroding of home
[2:12:55] governments.
>> We see the eroding of home
rule at every turn. They’re
[2:12:57] >> We see the eroding of home
rule at every turn. They’re
coming in and overruling what
[2:12:59] rule at every turn. They’re
coming in and overruling what
and taking away our powers it
[2:13:00] coming in and overruling what
and taking away our powers it
at the local level. And I I
[2:13:03] and taking away our powers it
at the local level. And I I
just I personally feel like
[2:13:04] at the local level. And I I
just I personally feel like
this is one that.
[2:13:07] just I personally feel like
this is one that.
>> We need to understand
[2:13:09] this is one that.
>> We need to understand
because I I don’t think it
[2:13:10] >> We need to understand
because I I don’t think it
ends here. I think this is
[2:13:10] because I I don’t think it
ends here. I think this is
going to be if we don’t make a
[2:13:13] ends here. I think this is
going to be if we don’t make a
determination out of this an
[2:13:14] going to be if we don’t make a
determination out of this an
appeal, it. That this is going
[2:13:16] determination out of this an
appeal, it. That this is going
to have much. Far implications
[2:13:21] appeal, it. That this is going
to have much. Far implications
than just this case. So I’m
[2:13:27] to have much. Far implications
than just this case. So I’m
going to stand by what the
[2:13:27] than just this case. So I’m
going to stand by what the
motion that’s on the floor.
[2:13:30] going to stand by what the
motion that’s on the floor.
>> So what happened
[2:13:31] motion that’s on the floor.
>> So what happened
Commissioner Barrick pulls
[2:13:32] >> So what happened
Commissioner Barrick pulls
back her motion someone else
[2:13:33] Commissioner Barrick pulls
back her motion someone else
have to. Like. You don’t have
[2:13:37] back her motion someone else
have to. Like. You don’t have
an original motion maker.
[2:13:42] have to. Like. You don’t have
an original motion maker.
>> I think Commissioner Kerik
[2:13:43] an original motion maker.
>> I think Commissioner Kerik
would just vote against her
[2:13:43] >> I think Commissioner Kerik
would just vote against her
motion. Is she? Wanted to
[2:13:45] would just vote against her
motion. Is she? Wanted to
withdraw at this point because
[2:13:49] motion. Is she? Wanted to
withdraw at this point because
the body has the motion
[2:13:50] withdraw at this point because
the body has the motion
because it’s been moved and
[2:13:51] the body has the motion
because it’s been moved and
seconded.
[2:13:55] because it’s been moved and
seconded.
>> Anything else?
[2:13:59] seconded.
>> Anything else?
>> I would just say that I
[2:13:59] >> Anything else?
>> I would just say that I
would prefer to not okay.
[2:14:00] >> I would just say that I
would prefer to not okay.
However. I do believe that the
[2:14:05] would prefer to not okay.
However. I do believe that the
optics of even though it is a
[2:14:08] However. I do believe that the
optics of even though it is a
routine matter to join in with
[2:14:08] optics of even though it is a
routine matter to join in with
another appeal. I think that
[2:14:13] routine matter to join in with
another appeal. I think that
the optics are poor and it’s
[2:14:14] another appeal. I think that
the optics are poor and it’s
about $0.17 per resident at
[2:14:16] the optics are poor and it’s
about $0.17 per resident at
the maximum year. You may be
[2:14:18] about $0.17 per resident at
the maximum year. You may be
coming in at half that so. So
[2:14:22] the maximum year. You may be
coming in at half that so. So
I will support this motion and
[2:14:26] coming in at half that so. So
I will support this motion and
I think that we have to defend
[2:14:27] I will support this motion and
I think that we have to defend
our authority are home rule
[2:14:27] I think that we have to defend
our authority are home rule
authority. And if we let let a
[2:14:32] our authority are home rule
authority. And if we let let a
clash ruling stand. Then we
[2:14:33] authority. And if we let let a
clash ruling stand. Then we
are not defending. What we do
[2:14:37] clash ruling stand. Then we
are not defending. What we do
and whether you agree with
[2:14:38] are not defending. What we do
and whether you agree with
that or not agree with the
[2:14:39] and whether you agree with
that or not agree with the
decision or not, that we very
[2:14:42] that or not agree with the
decision or not, that we very
carefully consider this item
[2:14:43] decision or not, that we very
carefully consider this item
and we need to defend what how
[2:14:45] carefully consider this item
and we need to defend what how
we rolled. So. I’ll be in
[2:14:47] and we need to defend what how
we rolled. So. I’ll be in
favor of it.
[2:14:51] we rolled. So. I’ll be in
favor of it.
>> I don’t know the math is
[2:14:52] favor of it.
>> I don’t know the math is
right at $0.17, but I don’t
[2:14:53] >> I don’t know the math is
right at $0.17, but I don’t
think any taxpayer out there.
[2:14:57] right at $0.17, but I don’t
think any taxpayer out there.
should say any, but I think
[2:14:59] think any taxpayer out there.
should say any, but I think
they’re going to see $30,000
[2:15:00] should say any, but I think
they’re going to see $30,000
is a lot of money for
[2:15:03] they’re going to see $30,000
is a lot of money for
government to to go into into
[2:15:04] is a lot of money for
government to to go into into
their people inside with the
[2:15:04] government to to go into into
their people inside with the
developer. Commissioner, can
[2:15:11] their people inside with the
developer. Commissioner, can
>> Yeah, I said when when
[2:15:12] developer. Commissioner, can
>> Yeah, I said when when
proposed my motion that I
[2:15:13] >> Yeah, I said when when
proposed my motion that I
don’t want to spend the dollar
[2:15:15] proposed my motion that I
don’t want to spend the dollar
of taxpayer money on this and
[2:15:17] don’t want to spend the dollar
of taxpayer money on this and
I’m gonna stand by that vote
[2:15:17] of taxpayer money on this and
I’m gonna stand by that vote
against the motion whether its
[2:15:22] I’m gonna stand by that vote
against the motion whether its
dollars or $15. I’m not going
[2:15:25] against the motion whether its
dollars or $15. I’m not going
to support going to court to
[2:15:26] dollars or $15. I’m not going
to support going to court to
to appeal this. If there’s an
[2:15:31] to support going to court to
to appeal this. If there’s an
avenue to to appeal it again,
[2:15:33] to appeal this. If there’s an
avenue to to appeal it again,
because I believe the judge
[2:15:33] avenue to to appeal it again,
because I believe the judge
got it wrong. I would support
[2:15:38] because I believe the judge
got it wrong. I would support
that. if this again, all say
[2:15:40] got it wrong. I would support
that. if this again, all say
if this motion passes, so be
[2:15:43] that. if this again, all say
if this motion passes, so be
it, but if not, be prepared to
[2:15:46] if this motion passes, so be
it, but if not, be prepared to
make a different motion. would
[2:15:50] it, but if not, be prepared to
make a different motion. would
be very similar to where we
[2:15:52] make a different motion. would
be very similar to where we
started with, although I would
[2:15:53] be very similar to where we
started with, although I would
add to that I want to make
[2:15:57] started with, although I would
add to that I want to make
sure that we’re changing are
[2:15:57] add to that I want to make
sure that we’re changing are
making a text amendment so
[2:15:59] sure that we’re changing are
making a text amendment so
that we can protect past
[2:16:00] making a text amendment so
that we can protect past
decisions.
[2:16:05] that we can protect past
decisions.
>> Yes, just following
[2:16:06] decisions.
>> Yes, just following
commissioner Canard, we’re at
[2:16:07] >> Yes, just following
commissioner Canard, we’re at
a special meeting. So we would
[2:16:09] commissioner Canard, we’re at
a special meeting. So we would
have to make an agenda item
[2:16:10] a special meeting. So we would
have to make an agenda item
for you for the next meeting
[2:16:10] have to make an agenda item
for you for the next meeting
to get that done.
[2:16:13] for you for the next meeting
to get that done.
>> Perfect way do that. And
[2:16:16] to get that done.
>> Perfect way do that. And
things go,
[2:16:18] >> Perfect way do that. And
things go,
>> All those in favor. Any
[2:16:25] things go,
>> All those in favor. Any
opposed nay. Motion carries 3,
[2:16:28] >> All those in favor. Any
opposed nay. Motion carries 3,
0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the
[2:16:36] opposed nay. Motion carries 3,
0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the
right side.
[2:16:41] 0, I mean, 3, 2, Jumped on the
right side.
>> Okay. excuse me. The
[2:16:43] right side.
>> Okay. excuse me. The
meetings not on theirs open to
[2:16:44] >> Okay. excuse me. The
meetings not on theirs open to
the public. And this could be
[2:16:47] meetings not on theirs open to
the public. And this could be
about anything. You want to
[2:16:48] the public. And this could be
about anything. You want to
talk about at this open to the
[2:16:50] about anything. You want to
talk about at this open to the
public. Just make sure that
[2:16:51] talk about at this open to the
public. Just make sure that
you have.
[2:16:53] public. Just make sure that
you have.
>> Or excuse me, commissioner
[2:16:58] you have.
>> Or excuse me, commissioner
people in the audience, I’m
[2:16:59] >> Or excuse me, commissioner
people in the audience, I’m
still conducting a meeting. So
[2:17:03] people in the audience, I’m
still conducting a meeting. So
3 minutes unless you have a
[2:17:04] still conducting a meeting. So
3 minutes unless you have a
letter and file. Let me know
[2:17:05] 3 minutes unless you have a
letter and file. Let me know
that you have a letter on file
[2:17:06] letter and file. Let me know
that you have a letter on file
and I will check with the
[2:17:09] that you have a letter on file
and I will check with the
clerk. Whatever she says is
[2:17:10] and I will check with the
clerk. Whatever she says is
gold. Please keep all your
[2:17:10] clerk. Whatever she says is
gold. Please keep all your
comments directed his me the
[2:17:12] gold. Please keep all your
comments directed his me the
chair and keep it appropriate
[2:17:15] comments directed his me the
chair and keep it appropriate
and to board business. But
[2:17:17] chair and keep it appropriate
and to board business. But
this is not about just one
[2:17:18] and to board business. But
this is not about just one
subject. Now, this can be any
[2:17:22] this is not about just one
subject. Now, this can be any
county business that you have.
[2:17:24] subject. Now, this can be any
county business that you have.
Welcome, Mr. Bryant first
[2:17:24] county business that you have.
Welcome, Mr. Bryant first
right answer.
[2:17:27] Welcome, Mr. Bryant first
right answer.
>> What is going on your dress
[2:17:28] right answer.
>> What is going on your dress
like this is absolutely crazy.
[2:17:31] >> What is going on your dress
like this is absolutely crazy.
We’re gonna spend taxpayer
[2:17:33] like this is absolutely crazy.
We’re gonna spend taxpayer
dollars after you guys just
[2:17:35] We’re gonna spend taxpayer
dollars after you guys just
fought for right rudder to be
[2:17:36] dollars after you guys just
fought for right rudder to be
dismissed because we’re
[2:17:37] fought for right rudder to be
dismissed because we’re
spending taxpayer dollars
[2:17:37] dismissed because we’re
spending taxpayer dollars
here. We are spending up to
[2:17:39] spending taxpayer dollars
here. We are spending up to
$30,000 to litigate something
[2:17:39] here. We are spending up to
$30,000 to litigate something
else for a developer. Body had
[2:17:41] $30,000 to litigate something
else for a developer. Body had
this been any other community
[2:17:42] else for a developer. Body had
this been any other community
in Citrus County. This
[2:17:43] this been any other community
in Citrus County. This
wouldn’t be happening. It’s
[2:17:46] in Citrus County. This
wouldn’t be happening. It’s
because one person is friends
[2:17:47] wouldn’t be happening. It’s
because one person is friends
with 3 guys on this board for
[2:17:48] because one person is friends
with 3 guys on this board for
guys in this whatever the
[2:17:51] with 3 guys on this board for
guys in this whatever the
number is, we’re here fighting
[2:17:51] guys in this whatever the
number is, we’re here fighting
that battle for him and help
[2:17:53] number is, we’re here fighting
that battle for him and help
him. But to do the fact that
[2:17:54] that battle for him and help
him. But to do the fact that
we’re getting e-mails from
[2:17:55] him. But to do the fact that
we’re getting e-mails from
their attorneys, the day of
[2:17:56] we’re getting e-mails from
their attorneys, the day of
meetings with these different
[2:17:58] their attorneys, the day of
meetings with these different
things in the in the email you
[2:18:00] meetings with these different
things in the in the email you
reference having
[2:18:02] things in the in the email you
reference having
conversations. I know you guys
[2:18:02] reference having
conversations. I know you guys
have a conversation with him.
[2:18:05] conversations. I know you guys
have a conversation with him.
I’ve records requests to speak
[2:18:06] have a conversation with him.
I’ve records requests to speak
in a records request and guys
[2:18:08] I’ve records requests to speak
in a records request and guys
aren’t giving records are
[2:18:08] in a records request and guys
aren’t giving records are
passed. So that’s a whole
[2:18:09] aren’t giving records are
passed. So that’s a whole
different issue that we’ll
[2:18:09] passed. So that’s a whole
different issue that we’ll
talk about later on. We need
[2:18:12] different issue that we’ll
talk about later on. We need
more transparency in this
[2:18:13] talk about later on. We need
more transparency in this
county. You guys are appeared
[2:18:14] more transparency in this
county. You guys are appeared
as w**** nilly. Do whatever
[2:18:15] county. You guys are appeared
as w**** nilly. Do whatever
guys want You know, I don’t
[2:18:16] as w**** nilly. Do whatever
guys want You know, I don’t
know what’s going on here. So
[2:18:21] guys want You know, I don’t
know what’s going on here. So
just going about that going
[2:18:22] know what’s going on here. So
just going about that going
forward, you know, we’ve got
[2:18:24] just going about that going
forward, you know, we’ve got
issues here is that county
[2:18:24] forward, you know, we’ve got
issues here is that county
transparency is one of them.
[2:18:25] issues here is that county
transparency is one of them.
People don’t trust government
[2:18:27] transparency is one of them.
People don’t trust government
decisions like this. Cause
[2:18:28] People don’t trust government
decisions like this. Cause
those issues. They’re not just
[2:18:30] decisions like this. Cause
those issues. They’re not just
government. When records
[2:18:32] those issues. They’re not just
government. When records
requests come in and yes, 60
[2:18:33] government. When records
requests come in and yes, 60
days to get records. Request
[2:18:34] requests come in and yes, 60
days to get records. Request
for a personal call because
[2:18:34] days to get records. Request
for a personal call because
guys having so many phone
[2:18:35] for a personal call because
guys having so many phone
conversations on your personal
[2:18:37] guys having so many phone
conversations on your personal
devices and you can’t
[2:18:39] conversations on your personal
devices and you can’t
differentiate which ones are
[2:18:40] devices and you can’t
differentiate which ones are
personal, which was a county
[2:18:40] differentiate which ones are
personal, which was a county
calls. That’s a problem. So I
[2:18:43] personal, which was a county
calls. That’s a problem. So I
ask you guys to consider those
[2:18:45] calls. That’s a problem. So I
ask you guys to consider those
things be more transparent.
[2:18:45] ask you guys to consider those
things be more transparent.
That’s what we want here.
[2:18:46] things be more transparent.
That’s what we want here.
Citrus County, thank you.
[2:18:47] That’s what we want here.
Citrus County, thank you.
>> Thank U next speaker.
[2:18:54] Citrus County, thank you.
>> Thank U next speaker.
>> marked a plea from poppy
[2:18:55] >> Thank U next speaker.
>> marked a plea from poppy
drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a
[2:18:58] >> marked a plea from poppy
drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a
little bit out of strengths
[2:18:59] drive in Pine Ridge. I’m a
little bit out of strengths
here. But I’m assuming that
[2:19:03] little bit out of strengths
here. But I’m assuming that
you all read every word of the
[2:19:06] here. But I’m assuming that
you all read every word of the
judge’s decision. Is that a
[2:19:08] you all read every word of the
judge’s decision. Is that a
fair assumption? Because what
[2:19:12] judge’s decision. Is that a
fair assumption? Because what
I recall is that. If you do
[2:19:15] fair assumption? Because what
I recall is that. If you do
appeal it. You can introduce
[2:19:17] I recall is that. If you do
appeal it. You can introduce
anything new. know, what I’m
[2:19:20] appeal it. You can introduce
anything new. know, what I’m
hearing is that you want
[2:19:23] anything new. know, what I’m
hearing is that you want
introduce something new. So I
[2:19:26] hearing is that you want
introduce something new. So I
think I think the best thing
[2:19:26] introduce something new. So I
think I think the best thing
for everyone. Include
[2:19:29] think I think the best thing
for everyone. Include
especially the board. Mr.
[2:19:31] for everyone. Include
especially the board. Mr.
Reconsider. To accept the
[2:19:34] especially the board. Mr.
Reconsider. To accept the
decision. Then make the
[2:19:37] Reconsider. To accept the
decision. Then make the
changes that you can make. And
[2:19:41] decision. Then make the
changes that you can make. And
go back read free.
[2:19:45] changes that you can make. And
go back read free.
>> Re redo it. I get them out
[2:19:46] go back read free.
>> Re redo it. I get them out
of Mike strength here. But I
[2:19:49] >> Re redo it. I get them out
of Mike strength here. But I
think you’re making a mistake
[2:19:52] of Mike strength here. But I
think you’re making a mistake
by considering introducing new
[2:19:53] think you’re making a mistake
by considering introducing new
information because the
[2:19:56] by considering introducing new
information because the
judge’s decision, I think.
[2:19:59] information because the
judge’s decision, I think.
Specifically said. You can’t
[2:20:02] judge’s decision, I think.
Specifically said. You can’t
bring in any new information.
[2:20:05] Specifically said. You can’t
bring in any new information.
Something to think about.
[2:20:07] bring in any new information.
Something to think about.
Thank you.
[2:20:08] Something to think about.
Thank you.
>> Thank U next speaker.
[2:20:11] Thank you.
>> Thank U next speaker.
>> While they’re coming up,
[2:20:11] >> Thank U next speaker.
>> While they’re coming up,
Madam Chair. Madam Attorney,
[2:20:16] >> While they’re coming up,
Madam Chair. Madam Attorney,
can you address that? Because
[2:20:17] Madam Chair. Madam Attorney,
can you address that? Because
we’re not introducing anything
[2:20:17] can you address that? Because
we’re not introducing anything
new.
[2:20:22] we’re not introducing anything
new.
>> I’m not sure what he was
[2:20:23] new.
>> I’m not sure what he was
talking about. I didn’t hear
[2:20:23] >> I’m not sure what he was
talking about. I didn’t hear
you all trying to introduce
[2:20:25] talking about. I didn’t hear
you all trying to introduce
anything new. What I
[2:20:27] you all trying to introduce
anything new. What I
understood. Commissioner cart
[2:20:28] anything new. What I
understood. Commissioner cart
canard is going to want a
[2:20:32] understood. Commissioner cart
canard is going to want a
agenda item at an upcoming
[2:20:33] canard is going to want a
agenda item at an upcoming
meeting to address the
[2:20:34] agenda item at an upcoming
meeting to address the
language of our code. I don’t
[2:20:35] meeting to address the
language of our code. I don’t
think that has anything to do
[2:20:35] language of our code. I don’t
think that has anything to do
with the appeal.
[2:20:40] think that has anything to do
with the appeal.
>> Thank you for your patience
[2:20:41] with the appeal.
>> Thank you for your patience
and even run where I live in
[2:20:42] >> Thank you for your patience
and even run where I live in
Pine I moved here to retire.
[2:20:45] and even run where I live in
Pine I moved here to retire.
Horses and goal. When I got
[2:20:48] Pine I moved here to retire.
Horses and goal. When I got
here, the golf course closed
[2:20:51] Horses and goal. When I got
here, the golf course closed
about previous year. But new
[2:20:52] here, the golf course closed
about previous year. But new
year to get moved. Couple
[2:20:56] about previous year. But new
year to get moved. Couple
things I’m seeing here that I
[2:20:57] year to get moved. Couple
things I’m seeing here that I
don’t really like one is he
[2:21:01] things I’m seeing here that I
don’t really like one is he
don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5
[2:21:02] don’t really like one is he
don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5
minutes. He gets talk all he
[2:21:02] don’t. doesn’t get 3 to 5
minutes. He gets talk all he
wants. And for Dick’s to come
[2:21:05] minutes. He gets talk all he
wants. And for Dick’s to come
in with the e-mail the couple
[2:21:09] wants. And for Dick’s to come
in with the e-mail the couple
hours before this meeting as a
[2:21:09] in with the e-mail the couple
hours before this meeting as a
last minute. Hail Mary to
[2:21:12] hours before this meeting as a
last minute. Hail Mary to
change your guys. Ideas. Is
[2:21:14] last minute. Hail Mary to
change your guys. Ideas. Is
crazy. If I was going to be in
[2:21:18] change your guys. Ideas. Is
crazy. If I was going to be in
a courtroom and this is a
[2:21:19] crazy. If I was going to be in
a courtroom and this is a
courtroom, if I don’t show up.
[2:21:21] a courtroom and this is a
courtroom, if I don’t show up.
It’s my problem. He didn’t
[2:21:22] courtroom, if I don’t show up.
It’s my problem. He didn’t
show up. It’s not that
[2:21:26] It’s my problem. He didn’t
show up. It’s not that
important to him, but he can
[2:21:27] show up. It’s not that
important to him, but he can
e-mail all you guys to
[2:21:27] important to him, but he can
e-mail all you guys to
influence you. I don’t want to
[2:21:31] e-mail all you guys to
influence you. I don’t want to
cause a kangaroo. Court was
[2:21:32] influence you. I don’t want to
cause a kangaroo. Court was
looking more like that. This
[2:21:34] cause a kangaroo. Court was
looking more like that. This
is crazy. White. Our
[2:21:37] looking more like that. This
is crazy. White. Our
representatives would go
[2:21:38] is crazy. White. Our
representatives would go
against U.S. with the
[2:21:39] representatives would go
against U.S. with the
developer. Pine Ridge, very to
[2:21:45] against U.S. with the
developer. Pine Ridge, very to
the year and a half to find
[2:21:49] developer. Pine Ridge, very to
the year and a half to find
this location. The head golf
[2:21:49] the year and a half to find
this location. The head golf
in horses. Don’t ruin one of
[2:21:54] this location. The head golf
in horses. Don’t ruin one of
the very few places left in
[2:21:55] in horses. Don’t ruin one of
the very few places left in
the country. To have fees for
[2:21:58] the very few places left in
the country. To have fees for
people. If you take. Community
[2:22:04] the country. To have fees for
people. If you take. Community
and just rip it apart for a
[2:22:05] people. If you take. Community
and just rip it apart for a
few dollars is crazy. And you
[2:22:08] and just rip it apart for a
few dollars is crazy. And you
don’t vote. Resign, please. If
[2:22:13] few dollars is crazy. And you
don’t vote. Resign, please. If
you’re going to go against us.
[2:22:14] don’t vote. Resign, please. If
you’re going to go against us.
Remember? Everybody here, see
[2:22:18] you’re going to go against us.
Remember? Everybody here, see
what’s going on. And I’m not a
[2:22:23] Remember? Everybody here, see
what’s going on. And I’m not a
political act is about insurer
[2:22:24] what’s going on. And I’m not a
political act is about insurer
will be one. If you guys. Take
[2:22:29] political act is about insurer
will be one. If you guys. Take
the motion to go against what
[2:22:30] will be one. If you guys. Take
the motion to go against what
I’m paying your salary. Any
[2:22:33] the motion to go against what
I’m paying your salary. Any
one of my employees, they
[2:22:33] I’m paying your salary. Any
one of my employees, they
business for 30 years that
[2:22:35] one of my employees, they
business for 30 years that
went against me, got fired. we
[2:22:39] business for 30 years that
went against me, got fired. we
do this votes and I’ll be more
[2:22:41] went against me, got fired. we
do this votes and I’ll be more
than happy to do that. And,
[2:22:43] do this votes and I’ll be more
than happy to do that. And,
Howie, I give you a really
[2:22:45] than happy to do that. And,
Howie, I give you a really
good. Kick when you first
[2:22:48] Howie, I give you a really
good. Kick when you first
start out. But I’m surprised
[2:22:50] good. Kick when you first
start out. But I’m surprised
you living in. Cummins, high
[2:22:54] start out. But I’m surprised
you living in. Cummins, high
ridges, you changed. I’m not
[2:22:55] you living in. Cummins, high
ridges, you changed. I’m not
going to in-person that. But
[2:23:00] ridges, you changed. I’m not
going to in-person that. But
the only public you’re the
[2:23:01] going to in-person that. But
the only public you’re the
only one up. Here are the
[2:23:02] the only public you’re the
only one up. Here are the
common sense. Thank
[2:23:09] only one up. Here are the
common sense. Thank
>> Commissioner Bear just that
[2:23:10] common sense. Thank
>> Commissioner Bear just that
the motion, that workers to
[2:23:14] >> Commissioner Bear just that
the motion, that workers to
come. was going do. He was
[2:23:14] the motion, that workers to
come. was going do. He was
going to bring it back to like
[2:23:19] come. was going do. He was
going to bring it back to like
are very will. No, ma’am. He
[2:23:20] going to bring it back to like
are very will. No, ma’am. He
was going to bring it back the
[2:23:20] are very will. No, ma’am. He
was going to bring it back the
way we voted in the first
[2:23:21] was going to bring it back the
way we voted in the first
place. Did I hear you
[2:23:26] way we voted in the first
place. Did I hear you
incorrectly commission
[2:23:27] place. Did I hear you
incorrectly commission
involved? And yeah. I think I
[2:23:33] incorrectly commission
involved? And yeah. I think I
think you heard incorrectly,
[2:23:33] involved? And yeah. I think I
think you heard incorrectly,
commissioner. That’s why I was
[2:23:34] think you heard incorrectly,
commissioner. That’s why I was
shocked. Good afternoon, too.
[2:23:38] commissioner. That’s why I was
shocked. Good afternoon, too.
Can I have up to 5 minutes
[2:23:40] shocked. Good afternoon, too.
Can I have up to 5 minutes
yes. Thank you.
[2:23:42] Can I have up to 5 minutes
yes. Thank you.
>> I wanted to. Respond to
[2:23:46] yes. Thank you.
>> I wanted to. Respond to
something that’s been said. A
[2:23:47] >> I wanted to. Respond to
something that’s been said. A
couple of timeshare by. A
[2:23:49] something that’s been said. A
couple of timeshare by. A
member of the board County
[2:23:52] couple of timeshare by. A
member of the board County
Commission talking about. Pine
[2:23:54] member of the board County
Commission talking about. Pine
Ridge. And the fact that we
[2:23:57] Commission talking about. Pine
Ridge. And the fact that we
were given a chance. And that
[2:24:00] Ridge. And the fact that we
were given a chance. And that
we didn’t do anything with
[2:24:00] were given a chance. And that
we didn’t do anything with
that. And I just wanted to,
[2:24:04] we didn’t do anything with
that. And I just wanted to,
you know, every story has a
[2:24:05] that. And I just wanted to,
you know, every story has a
couple of sides to it. And in
[2:24:07] you know, every story has a
couple of sides to it. And in
our stories this. We won the
[2:24:11] couple of sides to it. And in
our stories this. We won the
first. Hearing 5 to 0. We
[2:24:16] our stories this. We won the
first. Hearing 5 to 0. We
tried to approach. Bear in
[2:24:21] first. Hearing 5 to 0. We
tried to approach. Bear in
mind in order negotiate some
[2:24:23] tried to approach. Bear in
mind in order negotiate some
of the text to willing parties
[2:24:23] mind in order negotiate some
of the text to willing parties
to negotiate an agreement?
[2:24:25] of the text to willing parties
to negotiate an agreement?
Well, first thing that
[2:24:27] to negotiate an agreement?
Well, first thing that
happened was the developer
[2:24:28] Well, first thing that
happened was the developer
filed a request for relief.
[2:24:32] happened was the developer
filed a request for relief.
Then he sued our president
[2:24:33] filed a request for relief.
Then he sued our president
with a civil lawsuit and then
[2:24:34] Then he sued our president
with a civil lawsuit and then
he sued the P o a homeowners
[2:24:37] with a civil lawsuit and then
he sued the P o a homeowners
associations. So we’re in the
[2:24:39] he sued the P o a homeowners
associations. So we’re in the
middle of litigation at that
[2:24:40] associations. So we’re in the
middle of litigation at that
time. It was kind of hard to
[2:24:42] middle of litigation at that
time. It was kind of hard to
negotiate our property issues
[2:24:47] time. It was kind of hard to
negotiate our property issues
when you’re in that a gay shun
[2:24:52] negotiate our property issues
when you’re in that a gay shun
towards towards the end before
[2:24:53] when you’re in that a gay shun
towards towards the end before
the second application was
[2:24:54] towards towards the end before
the second application was
filed, he made a public.
[2:24:59] the second application was
filed, he made a public.
Offering to Pine Ridge that
[2:25:00] filed, he made a public.
Offering to Pine Ridge that
involve the golf course
[2:25:03] Offering to Pine Ridge that
involve the golf course
average west and Black Diamond
[2:25:04] involve the golf course
average west and Black Diamond
Reserve. Being over our head.
[2:25:10] average west and Black Diamond
Reserve. Being over our head.
It took a while, but the board
[2:25:11] Reserve. Being over our head.
It took a while, but the board
finally agreed on hiring
[2:25:14] It took a while, but the board
finally agreed on hiring
somebody to negotiate the best
[2:25:15] finally agreed on hiring
somebody to negotiate the best
interest of Pine Ridge in this
[2:25:16] somebody to negotiate the best
interest of Pine Ridge in this
situation. Mr. Decks decided
[2:25:22] interest of Pine Ridge in this
situation. Mr. Decks decided
that he didn’t want to
[2:25:22] situation. Mr. Decks decided
that he didn’t want to
negotiate with Pine Ridge is
[2:25:24] that he didn’t want to
negotiate with Pine Ridge is
negotiator. So the chance that
[2:25:28] negotiate with Pine Ridge is
negotiator. So the chance that
you gave us is not fair to say
[2:25:29] negotiator. So the chance that
you gave us is not fair to say
that we didn’t do what we had
[2:25:31] you gave us is not fair to say
that we didn’t do what we had
to do to try and make that
[2:25:33] that we didn’t do what we had
to do to try and make that
negotiations were still open
[2:25:37] to do to try and make that
negotiations were still open
to negotiating. We think there
[2:25:37] negotiations were still open
to negotiating. We think there
is a way forward. We have
[2:25:39] to negotiating. We think there
is a way forward. We have
offer on his table. There
[2:25:42] is a way forward. We have
offer on his table. There
meetings with him initially
[2:25:45] offer on his table. There
meetings with him initially
but I don’t know why he
[2:25:46] meetings with him initially
but I don’t know why he
doesn’t want to try and work
[2:25:47] but I don’t know why he
doesn’t want to try and work
something out with us. We
[2:25:47] doesn’t want to try and work
something out with us. We
don’t want to continues to
[2:25:50] something out with us. We
don’t want to continues to
negotiate. I mean, to a gate
[2:25:55] don’t want to continues to
negotiate. I mean, to a gate
we don’t want you guys to have
[2:25:55] negotiate. I mean, to a gate
we don’t want you guys to have
to go through the We want to
[2:25:57] we don’t want you guys to have
to go through the We want to
solve the issue and we want to
[2:26:00] to go through the We want to
solve the issue and we want to
solve it. So everybody wins.
[2:26:03] solve the issue and we want to
solve it. So everybody wins.
But we have a settlement
[2:26:04] solve it. So everybody wins.
But we have a settlement
agreement on one of those
[2:26:04] But we have a settlement
agreement on one of those
properties. And it’s a
[2:26:07] agreement on one of those
properties. And it’s a
court-ordered binding
[2:26:10] properties. And it’s a
court-ordered binding
settlement agreement and we’re
[2:26:10] court-ordered binding
settlement agreement and we’re
willing to work so that they
[2:26:13] settlement agreement and we’re
willing to work so that they
can protect Pine Ridge and
[2:26:14] willing to work so that they
can protect Pine Ridge and
allow the developer to move
[2:26:15] can protect Pine Ridge and
allow the developer to move
forward himself. But if we
[2:26:19] allow the developer to move
forward himself. But if we
don’t, if you won’t talk to
[2:26:22] forward himself. But if we
don’t, if you won’t talk to
us, it’s not fair to say that
[2:26:23] don’t, if you won’t talk to
us, it’s not fair to say that
you gave us a chance because
[2:26:25] us, it’s not fair to say that
you gave us a chance because
nobody has given us a chance.
[2:26:26] you gave us a chance because
nobody has given us a chance.
And not even here today we’re
[2:26:28] nobody has given us a chance.
And not even here today we’re
seeing that, OK, the other
[2:26:30] And not even here today we’re
seeing that, OK, the other
issue is that we had
[2:26:32] seeing that, OK, the other
issue is that we had
homeowners so frustrated with
[2:26:32] issue is that we had
homeowners so frustrated with
what’s going on. They decided,
[2:26:35] homeowners so frustrated with
what’s going on. They decided,
well, let’s go to mister Decks
[2:26:37] what’s going on. They decided,
well, let’s go to mister Decks
and by the property, like you
[2:26:38] well, let’s go to mister Decks
and by the property, like you
suggested. James Sticks gave
[2:26:42] and by the property, like you
suggested. James Sticks gave
them an incredible. Price. And
[2:26:46] suggested. James Sticks gave
them an incredible. Price. And
then the only way he would
[2:26:47] them an incredible. Price. And
then the only way he would
approve selling it as if they
[2:26:51] then the only way he would
approve selling it as if they
could convince our our board
[2:26:53] approve selling it as if they
could convince our our board
of directors to allow him to
[2:26:54] could convince our our board
of directors to allow him to
do whatever he wanted. On the
[2:26:56] of directors to allow him to
do whatever he wanted. On the
average property. So it’s been
[2:27:01] do whatever he wanted. On the
average property. So it’s been
a nonstarter for a We’re
[2:27:04] average property. So it’s been
a nonstarter for a We’re
willing to work something out.
[2:27:05] a nonstarter for a We’re
willing to work something out.
So I just want to make that
[2:27:06] willing to work something out.
So I just want to make that
clear. not that we’re
[2:27:09] So I just want to make that
clear. not that we’re
stubborn. It’s not that we
[2:27:10] clear. not that we’re
stubborn. It’s not that we
don’t want help or or make a
[2:27:14] stubborn. It’s not that we
don’t want help or or make a
good viable solution to a very
[2:27:17] don’t want help or or make a
good viable solution to a very
difficult problem. We wanted
[2:27:18] good viable solution to a very
difficult problem. We wanted
to go away. I think that’s why
[2:27:20] difficult problem. We wanted
to go away. I think that’s why
we see so much. Animosity and
[2:27:25] to go away. I think that’s why
we see so much. Animosity and
the group that’s 4 in the
[2:27:28] we see so much. Animosity and
the group that’s 4 in the
group that’s against it. One
[2:27:29] the group that’s 4 in the
group that’s against it. One
route just wants it to go away
[2:27:30] group that’s against it. One
route just wants it to go away
and hopefully. Act like it’s
[2:27:33] route just wants it to go away
and hopefully. Act like it’s
not going impact the
[2:27:33] and hopefully. Act like it’s
not going impact the
community. The way were
[2:27:36] not going impact the
community. The way were
telling him that it will. And
[2:27:37] community. The way were
telling him that it will. And
the other side is
[2:27:38] telling him that it will. And
the other side is
understanding what the Land
[2:27:44] the other side is
understanding what the Land
Development code comprehensive
[2:27:45] understanding what the Land
Development code comprehensive
plan and the impact that that
[2:27:47] Development code comprehensive
plan and the impact that that
has on a vested dri. If we
[2:27:49] plan and the impact that that
has on a vested dri. If we
allow this change to take
[2:27:51] has on a vested dri. If we
allow this change to take
place where we lose the
[2:27:53] allow this change to take
place where we lose the
overlay and it is overlay and
[2:27:55] place where we lose the
overlay and it is overlay and
it’s it’s it’s a parks,
[2:27:57] overlay and it is overlay and
it’s it’s it’s a parks,
recreation. course, it can
[2:28:02] it’s it’s it’s a parks,
recreation. course, it can
only be used at this point as
[2:28:06] recreation. course, it can
only be used at this point as
a golf course that can’t be
[2:28:06] only be used at this point as
a golf course that can’t be
used for a go cart. Carter
[2:28:08] a golf course that can’t be
used for a go cart. Carter
Hart or anything like that.
[2:28:13] used for a go cart. Carter
Hart or anything like that.
It’s designated as golf
[2:28:14] Hart or anything like that.
It’s designated as golf
course. It’s always been part
[2:28:16] It’s designated as golf
course. It’s always been part
of Pine Ridge is one of the
[2:28:18] course. It’s always been part
of Pine Ridge is one of the
reasons that many have bought
[2:28:19] of Pine Ridge is one of the
reasons that many have bought
in there. We have the ability
[2:28:22] reasons that many have bought
in there. We have the ability
2 try and resurrect. This golf
[2:28:25] in there. We have the ability
2 try and resurrect. This golf
course is save our community
[2:28:26] 2 try and resurrect. This golf
course is save our community
as one of the unique gems and
[2:28:30] course is save our community
as one of the unique gems and
Citrus Michael Brothers always
[2:28:32] as one of the unique gems and
Citrus Michael Brothers always
develop their communities
[2:28:33] Citrus Michael Brothers always
develop their communities
where they had dual at major
[2:28:35] develop their communities
where they had dual at major
amenity uses where you had a
[2:28:36] where they had dual at major
amenity uses where you had a
golf course. And you had and
[2:28:39] amenity uses where you had a
golf course. And you had and
question senators, we’d like
[2:28:41] golf course. And you had and
question senators, we’d like
to keep it that way. And I
[2:28:43] question senators, we’d like
to keep it that way. And I
just, you know, I just wanted
[2:28:45] to keep it that way. And I
just, you know, I just wanted
you to understand we didn’t
[2:28:46] just, you know, I just wanted
you to understand we didn’t
have a chance.
[2:28:47] you to understand we didn’t
have a chance.
>> Next speaker.
[2:28:50] have a chance.
>> Next speaker.
>> General Open to the public.
[2:28:54] >> Next speaker.
>> General Open to the public.
>> Yep. And back again. This
[2:28:57] >> General Open to the public.
>> Yep. And back again. This
is want clarification, OK?
[2:28:59] >> Yep. And back again. This
is want clarification, OK?
Cause turn. sounds like things
[2:29:00] is want clarification, OK?
Cause turn. sounds like things
got muddled. That motion that
[2:29:05] Cause turn. sounds like things
got muddled. That motion that
you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t
[2:29:08] got muddled. That motion that
you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t
that by Janet Barrick. And
[2:29:09] you just approved 3, 2, Wasn’t
that by Janet Barrick. And
then second by bays in order
[2:29:12] that by Janet Barrick. And
then second by bays in order
to pay the $30,000 for the
[2:29:15] then second by bays in order
to pay the $30,000 for the
appeal. Okay. And then there
[2:29:15] to pay the $30,000 for the
appeal. Okay. And then there
was a discussion with our
[2:29:18] appeal. Okay. And then there
was a discussion with our
commissioner from Pine Ridge
[2:29:20] was a discussion with our
commissioner from Pine Ridge
that she was going to vote no
[2:29:22] commissioner from Pine Ridge
that she was going to vote no
against that because she
[2:29:23] that she was going to vote no
against that because she
didn’t want to spend the
[2:29:24] against that because she
didn’t want to spend the
money. And this was a
[2:29:26] didn’t want to spend the
money. And this was a
discussion because we back and
[2:29:27] money. And this was a
discussion because we back and
forth and now when you had the
[2:29:31] discussion because we back and
forth and now when you had the
boat, she voted, yes, she
[2:29:33] forth and now when you had the
boat, she voted, yes, she
wants to spend the $30,000 to
[2:29:36] boat, she voted, yes, she
wants to spend the $30,000 to
appeal us. Okay, because I
[2:29:36] wants to spend the $30,000 to
appeal us. Okay, because I
just want to make sure that we
[2:29:37] appeal us. Okay, because I
just want to make sure that we
got I got that clear that it
[2:29:39] just want to make sure that we
got I got that clear that it
is our commissioner from Pine
[2:29:42] got I got that clear that it
is our commissioner from Pine
Ridge that voted to do this.
[2:29:45] is our commissioner from Pine
Ridge that voted to do this.
Okay. So that’s who I have to
[2:29:47] Ridge that voted to do this.
Okay. So that’s who I have to
play because I’ve my taxes. I
[2:29:50] Okay. So that’s who I have to
play because I’ve my taxes. I
have to pay $45,4500 this
[2:29:52] play because I’ve my taxes. I
have to pay $45,4500 this
year? Thank you.
[2:29:55] have to pay $45,4500 this
year? Thank you.
>> 6 Speaker.
[2:30:05] year? Thank you.
>> 6 Speaker.
>> My name is Theresa Boards
[2:30:07] >> 6 Speaker.
>> My name is Theresa Boards
to live how you drive on drive
[2:30:07] >> My name is Theresa Boards
to live how you drive on drive
in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard
[2:30:11] to live how you drive on drive
in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard
anyone discuss. The impact of
[2:30:16] in Pine Ridge. I haven’t heard
anyone discuss. The impact of
all these new homes going and
[2:30:17] anyone discuss. The impact of
all these new homes going and
there’s homes gone. And
[2:30:18] all these new homes going and
there’s homes gone. And
there’s a brand new freeway.
[2:30:21] there’s homes gone. And
there’s a brand new freeway.
Wasn’t there. When I moved
[2:30:22] there’s a brand new freeway.
Wasn’t there. When I moved
here when I moved here, there
[2:30:24] Wasn’t there. When I moved
here when I moved here, there
was nothing. But Angus past
[2:30:26] here when I moved here, there
was nothing. But Angus past
years, that’s the only reason
[2:30:27] was nothing. But Angus past
years, that’s the only reason
I agreed to move year, but it
[2:30:29] years, that’s the only reason
I agreed to move year, but it
was because of the horses. And
[2:30:33] I agreed to move year, but it
was because of the horses. And
horseback, at least 5 days a
[2:30:34] was because of the horses. And
horseback, at least 5 days a
week. In Pine Ridge on the 28
[2:30:38] horseback, at least 5 days a
week. In Pine Ridge on the 28
miles of trail. We cross
[2:30:40] week. In Pine Ridge on the 28
miles of trail. We cross
there’s a couple trails across
[2:30:42] miles of trail. We cross
there’s a couple trails across
Pine Ridge Boulevard and
[2:30:43] there’s a couple trails across
Pine Ridge Boulevard and
Mustang and those 2 roads are
[2:30:45] Pine Ridge Boulevard and
Mustang and those 2 roads are
treacherous at. Dinner time
[2:30:49] Mustang and those 2 roads are
treacherous at. Dinner time
people moving and going home.
[2:30:52] treacherous at. Dinner time
people moving and going home.
I’m a good writer of got
[2:30:53] people moving and going home.
I’m a good writer of got
really good train horses. Some
[2:30:54] I’m a good writer of got
really good train horses. Some
of these people that are right
[2:30:54] really good train horses. Some
of these people that are right
with. You know, in their 70’s
[2:30:58] of these people that are right
with. You know, in their 70’s
80’s. Many of them are just
[2:31:02] with. You know, in their 70’s
80’s. Many of them are just
frightened. The traffic is
[2:31:04] 80’s. Many of them are just
frightened. The traffic is
something that needs to be
[2:31:06] frightened. The traffic is
something that needs to be
really considered. And, you
[2:31:09] something that needs to be
really considered. And, you
know, if this is a
[2:31:10] really considered. And, you
know, if this is a
recreational subdivision. You
[2:31:15] know, if this is a
recreational subdivision. You
know, forces have a mind of
[2:31:16] recreational subdivision. You
know, forces have a mind of
their own. They’re not like a
[2:31:17] know, forces have a mind of
their own. They’re not like a
mini bike. You can just turn
[2:31:18] their own. They’re not like a
mini bike. You can just turn
them off. And we’ve already
[2:31:19] mini bike. You can just turn
them off. And we’ve already
got 4 wheelers trying to get
[2:31:20] them off. And we’ve already
got 4 wheelers trying to get
on the trails and now a lot of
[2:31:23] got 4 wheelers trying to get
on the trails and now a lot of
people walk their dogs, which
[2:31:23] on the trails and now a lot of
people walk their dogs, which
don’t care about that. But the
[2:31:26] people walk their dogs, which
don’t care about that. But the
motorized stuff, the e-bikes,
[2:31:27] don’t care about that. But the
motorized stuff, the e-bikes,
you know, these people by
[2:31:31] motorized stuff, the e-bikes,
you know, these people by
house with big house and the
[2:31:32] you know, these people by
house with big house and the
goal be of acreage and, you
[2:31:34] house with big house and the
goal be of acreage and, you
know, there’s kids rollover
[2:31:34] goal be of acreage and, you
know, there’s kids rollover
with the e-bikes and I get
[2:31:36] know, there’s kids rollover
with the e-bikes and I get
that, too. But it’s not
[2:31:37] with the e-bikes and I get
that, too. But it’s not
allowed. And so the equestrian
[2:31:40] that, too. But it’s not
allowed. And so the equestrian
uses unique. Not. In extreme.
[2:31:49] allowed. And so the equestrian
uses unique. Not. In extreme.
Popular thing because not
[2:31:50] uses unique. Not. In extreme.
Popular thing because not
everybody. Puts horses in
[2:31:54] Popular thing because not
everybody. Puts horses in
their backyard like I have for
[2:31:55] everybody. Puts horses in
their backyard like I have for
50 years. You know, it’s it’s
[2:31:56] their backyard like I have for
50 years. You know, it’s it’s
a lifestyle. And that’s why I
[2:31:57] 50 years. You know, it’s it’s
a lifestyle. And that’s why I
came here. So. I don’t. And
[2:32:02] a lifestyle. And that’s why I
came here. So. I don’t. And
any of your jobs. I like to be
[2:32:04] came here. So. I don’t. And
any of your jobs. I like to be
retired. But thank you. Thank
[2:32:06] any of your jobs. I like to be
retired. But thank you. Thank
you. Next, Speaker. Good
[2:32:19] retired. But thank you. Thank
you. Next, Speaker. Good
afternoon commissioners. My
[2:32:20] you. Next, Speaker. Good
afternoon commissioners. My
name is Alexis Wilkins. And
[2:32:22] afternoon commissioners. My
name is Alexis Wilkins. And
I’m a property owner and
[2:32:23] name is Alexis Wilkins. And
I’m a property owner and
taxpayer first. Thank you for
[2:32:24] I’m a property owner and
taxpayer first. Thank you for
your service and your decision
[2:32:25] taxpayer first. Thank you for
your service and your decision
today to seek appellate
[2:32:27] your service and your decision
today to seek appellate
review.
[2:32:27] today to seek appellate
review.
>> I want you to know that
[2:32:30] review.
>> I want you to know that
Pine Ridge Property Owners
[2:32:31] >> I want you to know that
Pine Ridge Property Owners
Association does not speak for
[2:32:33] Pine Ridge Property Owners
Association does not speak for
all of the Pine Ridge
[2:32:34] Association does not speak for
all of the Pine Ridge
residents. Many of us believe
[2:32:36] all of the Pine Ridge
residents. Many of us believe
that 80 homes on more than 200
[2:32:38] residents. Many of us believe
that 80 homes on more than 200
acres is a sensible
[2:32:39] that 80 homes on more than 200
acres is a sensible
low-density compromise. What
[2:32:41] acres is a sensible
low-density compromise. What
concerns me is that this fight
[2:32:42] low-density compromise. What
concerns me is that this fight
increasingly appears to be how
[2:32:43] concerns me is that this fight
increasingly appears to be how
much money or value our can
[2:32:45] increasingly appears to be how
much money or value our can
extract from the developer at
[2:32:48] much money or value our can
extract from the developer at
a P o a sanctioned meeting
[2:32:49] extract from the developer at
a P o a sanctioned meeting
just this past Saturday.
[2:32:50] a P o a sanctioned meeting
just this past Saturday.
Settlement discussions
[2:32:52] just this past Saturday.
Settlement discussions
included compensation from the
[2:32:54] Settlement discussions
included compensation from the
developer acquisition of the
[2:32:56] included compensation from the
developer acquisition of the
golf course property and other
[2:32:57] developer acquisition of the
golf course property and other
potential financial benefits
[2:32:58] golf course property and other
potential financial benefits
to the association. At some
[2:33:00] potential financial benefits
to the association. At some
point, we have to ask, are we
[2:33:03] to the association. At some
point, we have to ask, are we
protecting Pine Ridge or are
[2:33:05] point, we have to ask, are we
protecting Pine Ridge or are
we using opposition to
[2:33:05] protecting Pine Ridge or are
we using opposition to
development as leverage to
[2:33:08] we using opposition to
development as leverage to
extract more the deal. Please
[2:33:10] development as leverage to
extract more the deal. Please
remember that we are Pine
[2:33:13] extract more the deal. Please
remember that we are Pine
Ridge to we are homeowners. We
[2:33:14] remember that we are Pine
Ridge to we are homeowners. We
are voters and we are
[2:33:15] Ridge to we are homeowners. We
are voters and we are
taxpayers and our voices
[2:33:16] are voters and we are
taxpayers and our voices
deserve to be heard. Thank
[2:33:17] taxpayers and our voices
deserve to be heard. Thank
you. Thank you.
[2:33:17] deserve to be heard. Thank
you. Thank you.
>> Next, speaker.
[2:33:31] you. Thank you.
>> Next, speaker.
>> Good afternoon.
[2:33:31] >> Next, speaker.
>> Good afternoon.
Commissioners I’ve been up a
[2:33:32] >> Good afternoon.
Commissioners I’ve been up a
few times to my 3 minutes.
[2:33:39] Commissioners I’ve been up a
few times to my 3 minutes.
I’ll ask a question during my
[2:33:40] few times to my 3 minutes.
I’ll ask a question during my
name is Mario Leon. I live in
[2:33:42] I’ll ask a question during my
name is Mario Leon. I live in
Pine own multiple properties
[2:33:42] name is Mario Leon. I live in
Pine own multiple properties
my parents are residents. My
[2:33:45] Pine own multiple properties
my parents are residents. My
parents older. They’re retired
[2:33:49] my parents are residents. My
parents older. They’re retired
and I take it upon myself to
[2:33:49] parents older. They’re retired
and I take it upon myself to
move into the area to make
[2:33:50] and I take it upon myself to
move into the area to make
sure that there. Comfortable.
[2:33:54] move into the area to make
sure that there. Comfortable.
And as they get older, they
[2:33:55] sure that there. Comfortable.
And as they get older, they
don’t get taken advantage of.
[2:33:57] And as they get older, they
don’t get taken advantage of.
I see a lot of families in
[2:34:00] don’t get taken advantage of.
I see a lot of families in
similar situations that might
[2:34:00] I see a lot of families in
similar situations that might
not have. The kits close. I
[2:34:04] similar situations that might
not have. The kits close. I
just have one question. And as
[2:34:07] not have. The kits close. I
just have one question. And as
far as everything I’ve been
[2:34:08] just have one question. And as
far as everything I’ve been
able to look up, I haven’t
[2:34:09] far as everything I’ve been
able to look up, I haven’t
seen that Gulf state of that
[2:34:10] able to look up, I haven’t
seen that Gulf state of that
Gulf property up for sale. It
[2:34:12] seen that Gulf state of that
Gulf property up for sale. It
was opened one day. Was
[2:34:15] Gulf property up for sale. It
was opened one day. Was
closed. Nobody had noticed
[2:34:17] was opened one day. Was
closed. Nobody had noticed
that was up for sale and all
[2:34:17] closed. Nobody had noticed
that was up for sale and all
of a sudden property developer
[2:34:21] that was up for sale and all
of a sudden property developer
purchased it. That’s on
[2:34:21] of a sudden property developer
purchased it. That’s on
record. That’s what I found
[2:34:23] purchased it. That’s on
record. That’s what I found
confused with. We’ve had an
[2:34:26] record. That’s what I found
confused with. We’ve had an
opportunity to buy think
[2:34:27] confused with. We’ve had an
opportunity to buy think
somebody else spoke to that
[2:34:28] opportunity to buy think
somebody else spoke to that
are ready. But that property
[2:34:29] somebody else spoke to that
are ready. But that property
everyone up for sale. It was a
[2:34:31] are ready. But that property
everyone up for sale. It was a
deal that was done prior. So
[2:34:35] everyone up for sale. It was a
deal that was done prior. So
we did have the opportunity,
[2:34:35] deal that was done prior. So
we did have the opportunity,
know, get the opportunity. I
[2:34:36] we did have the opportunity,
know, get the opportunity. I
think individual investors had
[2:34:37] know, get the opportunity. I
think individual investors had
they known would be here.
[2:34:40] think individual investors had
they known would be here.
would have jumped. We can’t go
[2:34:40] they known would be here.
would have jumped. We can’t go
backwards, but we can go
[2:34:43] would have jumped. We can’t go
backwards, but we can go
forward. I’m concerned that
[2:34:43] backwards, but we can go
forward. I’m concerned that
we’re using taxpayer money. To
[2:34:49] forward. I’m concerned that
we’re using taxpayer money. To
litigate this. I don’t envy
[2:34:49] we’re using taxpayer money. To
litigate this. I don’t envy
your jobs for sure. I know
[2:34:50] litigate this. I don’t envy
your jobs for sure. I know
it’s not easy, but the only
[2:34:53] your jobs for sure. I know
it’s not easy, but the only
thing as I was a tease we
[2:34:55] it’s not easy, but the only
thing as I was a tease we
elect you. Stewarts and we
[2:34:59] thing as I was a tease we
elect you. Stewarts and we
hope that you do the best
[2:35:00] elect you. Stewarts and we
hope that you do the best
thing for everybody. I don’t
[2:35:01] hope that you do the best
thing for everybody. I don’t
think. I don’t think we’re
[2:35:04] thing for everybody. I don’t
think. I don’t think we’re
doing that right now. And I
[2:35:06] think. I don’t think we’re
doing that right now. And I
think that decision is wrong.
[2:35:10] doing that right now. And I
think that decision is wrong.
>> Next, speaker.
[2:35:23] think that decision is wrong.
>> Next, speaker.
>> Chris Pine Citrus Insider.
[2:35:25] >> Next, speaker.
>> Chris Pine Citrus Insider.
So 5 minutes for this one.
[2:35:29] >> Chris Pine Citrus Insider.
So 5 minutes for this one.
>> Not open to the public.
[2:35:36] So 5 minutes for this one.
>> Not open to the public.
>> So the ordinances that
[2:35:38] >> Not open to the public.
>> So the ordinances that
organizations 5 minutes and
[2:35:39] >> So the ordinances that
organizations 5 minutes and
images get 3 minutes does not
[2:35:40] organizations 5 minutes and
images get 3 minutes does not
say that individuals can
[2:35:45] images get 3 minutes does not
say that individuals can
organizations. And let’s go
[2:35:45] say that individuals can
organizations. And let’s go
ahead. so I heard Commissioner
[2:35:48] organizations. And let’s go
ahead. so I heard Commissioner
State earlier that she might
[2:35:51] ahead. so I heard Commissioner
State earlier that she might
misheard Commissioner when he
[2:35:51] State earlier that she might
misheard Commissioner when he
proposed the seconds
[2:35:52] misheard Commissioner when he
proposed the seconds
adjustment to his motion. and
[2:35:55] proposed the seconds
adjustment to his motion. and
then I heard somebody say that
[2:35:57] adjustment to his motion. and
then I heard somebody say that
you guys on the auction change
[2:35:58] then I heard somebody say that
you guys on the auction change
its. I’m gonna present to you
[2:35:59] you guys on the auction change
its. I’m gonna present to you
the option to change its
[2:35:59] its. I’m gonna present to you
the option to change its
shares have the option for a
[2:36:00] the option to change its
shares have the option for a
motion to reconsider. It takes
[2:36:03] shares have the option for a
motion to reconsider. It takes
one of us to do a second one
[2:36:04] motion to reconsider. It takes
one of us to do a second one
to second. It’s in the new
[2:36:05] one of us to do a second one
to second. It’s in the new
guys. Get to reconsider the
[2:36:06] to second. It’s in the new
guys. Get to reconsider the
previous motion. read this to
[2:36:07] guys. Get to reconsider the
previous motion. read this to
you guys. If you’re not
[2:36:09] previous motion. read this to
you guys. If you’re not
familiar, the motion to
[2:36:11] you guys. If you’re not
familiar, the motion to
reconsider allows the board
[2:36:12] familiar, the motion to
reconsider allows the board
debate whether or not to
[2:36:14] reconsider allows the board
debate whether or not to
overturn a decision made at
[2:36:14] debate whether or not to
overturn a decision made at
the meeting that’s currently
[2:36:16] overturn a decision made at
the meeting that’s currently
in progress. It allows the
[2:36:17] the meeting that’s currently
in progress. It allows the
board to consider new
[2:36:18] in progress. It allows the
board to consider new
information that may affect
[2:36:18] board to consider new
information that may affect
the decision that’s already
[2:36:19] information that may affect
the decision that’s already
been made. And the
[2:36:20] the decision that’s already
been made. And the
commissioner to make the
[2:36:21] been made. And the
commissioner to make the
motion to reconsider and any
[2:36:22] commissioner to make the
motion to reconsider and any
commissioner can second it.
[2:36:23] motion to reconsider and any
commissioner can second it.
The motion is debatable but
[2:36:24] commissioner can second it.
The motion is debatable but
cannot be amended. majority
[2:36:26] The motion is debatable but
cannot be amended. majority
ruled the vote is required to
[2:36:27] cannot be amended. majority
ruled the vote is required to
make the motion pets. So
[2:36:29] ruled the vote is required to
make the motion pets. So
therefore, if you guys want to
[2:36:32] make the motion pets. So
therefore, if you guys want to
reconsider that Commissioner
[2:36:33] therefore, if you guys want to
reconsider that Commissioner
Kerik of the new information,
[2:36:34] reconsider that Commissioner
Kerik of the new information,
she understand commissioner
[2:36:35] Kerik of the new information,
she understand commissioner
can are supposing and
[2:36:36] she understand commissioner
can are supposing and
secondary motion. If it was
[2:36:37] can are supposing and
secondary motion. If it was
the calm, you guys have the
[2:36:38] secondary motion. If it was
the calm, you guys have the
ability to go back to that and
[2:36:41] the calm, you guys have the
ability to go back to that and
that would remove the taxpayer
[2:36:42] ability to go back to that and
that would remove the taxpayer
liability on paying for this
[2:36:46] that would remove the taxpayer
liability on paying for this
Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides
[2:36:46] liability on paying for this
Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides
suggestions you guys do that.
[2:36:47] Pine ridge. I’m hearing sides
suggestions you guys do that.
They can end in the same votes
[2:36:49] suggestions you guys do that.
They can end in the same votes
for this option. But it gives
[2:36:50] They can end in the same votes
for this option. But it gives
you guys reconsideration for
[2:36:50] for this option. But it gives
you guys reconsideration for
that. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:36:52] you guys reconsideration for
that. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker.
[2:37:06] that. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Next, Speaker.
>> PJ off-camera, Citrus
[2:37:08] >> Next, Speaker.
>> PJ off-camera, Citrus
County. So from that game,
[2:37:09] >> PJ off-camera, Citrus
County. So from that game,
beginning of this whole
[2:37:11] County. So from that game,
beginning of this whole
debacle with Dick’s
[2:37:12] beginning of this whole
debacle with Dick’s
development in Pine Ridge. My
[2:37:16] debacle with Dick’s
development in Pine Ridge. My
Theory has always been that we
[2:37:17] development in Pine Ridge. My
Theory has always been that we
had a dri that was granted
[2:37:19] Theory has always been that we
had a dri that was granted
with open spaces and
[2:37:21] had a dri that was granted
with open spaces and
recreational spaces that
[2:37:22] with open spaces and
recreational spaces that
allowed a certain number of
[2:37:23] recreational spaces that
allowed a certain number of
homes to be built. Your
[2:37:24] allowed a certain number of
homes to be built. Your
actions. Whether you think
[2:37:28] homes to be built. Your
actions. Whether you think
they are right or wrong, took
[2:37:30] actions. Whether you think
they are right or wrong, took
away that option to have the
[2:37:31] they are right or wrong, took
away that option to have the
recreational space. And in my
[2:37:33] away that option to have the
recreational space. And in my
thinking, that means that the
[2:37:35] recreational space. And in my
thinking, that means that the
dri for Pine Ridge is
[2:37:36] thinking, that means that the
dri for Pine Ridge is
nonconforming. It no longer
[2:37:39] dri for Pine Ridge is
nonconforming. It no longer
has what was required in the
[2:37:42] nonconforming. It no longer
has what was required in the
open spaces and recreation
[2:37:44] has what was required in the
open spaces and recreation
spaces to be it. A DRA
[2:37:46] open spaces and recreation
spaces to be it. A DRA
development. I think you’re
[2:37:47] spaces to be it. A DRA
development. I think you’re
wrong in that. And I think
[2:37:49] development. I think you’re
wrong in that. And I think
that you choosing to fight
[2:37:51] wrong in that. And I think
that you choosing to fight
this, whether you win or lose
[2:37:52] that you choosing to fight
this, whether you win or lose
could open up future lawsuits
[2:37:57] this, whether you win or lose
could open up future lawsuits
with other areas that want to
[2:37:59] could open up future lawsuits
with other areas that want to
take away from open space or
[2:38:01] with other areas that want to
take away from open space or
recreational space that he’s
[2:38:01] take away from open space or
recreational space that he’s
been granted to them. So that
[2:38:05] recreational space that he’s
been granted to them. So that
they could build only certain
[2:38:06] been granted to them. So that
they could build only certain
number of homes. You’re
[2:38:07] they could build only certain
number of homes. You’re
setting a precedent and
[2:38:08] number of homes. You’re
setting a precedent and
saying. That this is OK and
[2:38:12] setting a precedent and
saying. That this is OK and
its absolutely not OK, Prime
[2:38:15] saying. That this is OK and
its absolutely not OK, Prime
Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of
[2:38:20] its absolutely not OK, Prime
Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of
the premier communities in the
[2:38:21] Ridge rib Pine Ridge is one of
the premier communities in the
state of Florida. There are
[2:38:23] the premier communities in the
state of Florida. There are
people who are leaving other a
[2:38:24] state of Florida. There are
people who are leaving other a
question of communities to
[2:38:27] people who are leaving other a
question of communities to
come here because of what Pine
[2:38:29] question of communities to
come here because of what Pine
Ridge stands for and is. We
[2:38:33] come here because of what Pine
Ridge stands for and is. We
shouldn’t be fighting them and
[2:38:36] Ridge stands for and is. We
shouldn’t be fighting them and
fighting them with the
[2:38:37] shouldn’t be fighting them and
fighting them with the
developer who doesn’t have the
[2:38:38] fighting them with the
developer who doesn’t have the
best interest of Citrus
[2:38:38] developer who doesn’t have the
best interest of Citrus
County. It at heart. I
[2:38:41] best interest of Citrus
County. It at heart. I
sincerely hope you will
[2:38:42] County. It at heart. I
sincerely hope you will
consider. Reconsidering your
[2:38:44] sincerely hope you will
consider. Reconsidering your
votes. And just stop this
[2:38:49] consider. Reconsidering your
votes. And just stop this
nonsense. better than this. We
[2:38:50] votes. And just stop this
nonsense. better than this. We
don’t need is we don’t need to
[2:38:54] nonsense. better than this. We
don’t need is we don’t need to
be siding with developers who
[2:38:55] don’t need is we don’t need to
be siding with developers who
don’t have her best interest
[2:38:56] be siding with developers who
don’t have her best interest
to the right thing. Please.
[2:39:00] don’t have her best interest
to the right thing. Please.
Thank Thank you. Next,
[2:39:00] to the right thing. Please.
Thank Thank you. Next,
Speaker.
[2:39:15] >> Board Landy ahead and plan
[2:39:16] >> Board Landy ahead and plan
to come back up. But I just
[2:39:18] >> Board Landy ahead and plan
to come back up. But I just
want to echo the sentiment of
[2:39:18] to come back up. But I just
want to echo the sentiment of
the last several speakers and
[2:39:22] want to echo the sentiment of
the last several speakers and
say go back to your original
[2:39:23] the last several speakers and
say go back to your original
motion. No litigation just
[2:39:25] say go back to your original
motion. No litigation just
don’t get involved. Correct?
[2:39:28] motion. No litigation just
don’t get involved. Correct?
The Dri. The amendment and
[2:39:31] don’t get involved. Correct?
The Dri. The amendment and
move forward with that that
[2:39:32] The Dri. The amendment and
move forward with that that
the sage taxpayer money. And
[2:39:34] move forward with that that
the sage taxpayer money. And
it gets to the issue at heart,
[2:39:36] the sage taxpayer money. And
it gets to the issue at heart,
which is how do we had the
[2:39:39] it gets to the issue at heart,
which is how do we had the
legal language to the dri to
[2:39:41] which is how do we had the
legal language to the dri to
put conversion so that it
[2:39:42] legal language to the dri to
put conversion so that it
stands and is what it needs to
[2:39:44] put conversion so that it
stands and is what it needs to
be. Thank you very much. And
[2:39:45] stands and is what it needs to
be. Thank you very much. And
again, good Luck.
[2:39:47] be. Thank you very much. And
again, good Luck.
>> Thank next speakers. Last
[2:39:51] again, good Luck.
>> Thank next speakers. Last
chance for Speaker.
[2:39:57] >> Thank next speakers. Last
chance for Speaker.
>> Close the public commenter
[2:39:58] chance for Speaker.
>> Close the public commenter
the open to the public. Since
[2:40:02] >> Close the public commenter
the open to the public. Since
it was mentioned, the motion
[2:40:03] the open to the public. Since
it was mentioned, the motion
to reconsider Commissioner
[2:40:03] it was mentioned, the motion
to reconsider Commissioner
Barrick. You are mistaken.
[2:40:09] to reconsider Commissioner
Barrick. You are mistaken.
Commissioner can order any
[2:40:11] Barrick. You are mistaken.
Commissioner can order any
commissioner myself. He made a
[2:40:14] Commissioner can order any
commissioner myself. He made a
motion. You said he would go
[2:40:14] commissioner myself. He made a
motion. You said he would go
back to the original.
[2:40:17] motion. You said he would go
back to the original.
>> His motion failed. He
[2:40:19] back to the original.
>> His motion failed. He
cannot be the one he cannot
[2:40:20] >> His motion failed. He
cannot be the one he cannot
make the same. You can’t come
[2:40:20] cannot be the one he cannot
make the same. You can’t come
up here and just keep making
[2:40:21] make the same. You can’t come
up here and just keep making
the same ocean.
[2:40:22] up here and just keep making
the same ocean.
>> What it feels just like I
[2:40:25] the same ocean.
>> What it feels just like I
could not go back to the first
[2:40:27] >> What it feels just like I
could not go back to the first
motion and make it because I
[2:40:27] could not go back to the first
motion and make it because I
made the motion and it failed.
[2:40:30] motion and make it because I
made the motion and it failed.
He is allowed to make a motion
[2:40:34] made the motion and it failed.
He is allowed to make a motion
that I made because he voted
[2:40:35] He is allowed to make a motion
that I made because he voted
against it first time. So you
[2:40:42] that I made because he voted
against it first time. So you
are, we’re confused. So that
[2:40:44] against it first time. So you
are, we’re confused. So that
is why was brought up motion
[2:40:45] are, we’re confused. So that
is why was brought up motion
to reconsider. If that’s
[2:40:45] is why was brought up motion
to reconsider. If that’s
something you want to do. I
[2:40:47] to reconsider. If that’s
something you want to do. I
will second that and I say
[2:40:50] something you want to do. I
will second that and I say
that because I like motion to
[2:40:51] will second that and I say
that because I like motion to
reconsider.
[2:40:52] that because I like motion to
reconsider.
>> The motion to. Spend 30,000
[2:40:57] reconsider.
>> The motion to. Spend 30,000
of second. Motion by
[2:41:02] >> The motion to. Spend 30,000
of second. Motion by
Commissioner Barrick second by
[2:41:05] of second. Motion by
Commissioner Barrick second by
Commissioner Finnegan.
[2:41:05] Commissioner Barrick second by
Commissioner Finnegan.
>> This is not open to the
[2:41:07] Commissioner Finnegan.
>> This is not open to the
public. It’s not know. This is
[2:41:08] >> This is not open to the
public. It’s not know. This is
that this is within the board.
[2:41:10] public. It’s not know. This is
that this is within the board.
So now you would discuss it
[2:41:12] that this is within the board.
So now you would discuss it
and then you determine whether
[2:41:13] So now you would discuss it
and then you determine whether
or not you’re going to
[2:41:15] and then you determine whether
or not you’re going to
reconsider. Thank you. And you
[2:41:17] or not you’re going to
reconsider. Thank you. And you
vote on that. Then if you do
[2:41:18] reconsider. Thank you. And you
vote on that. Then if you do
vote to reconsider than that,
[2:41:19] vote on that. Then if you do
vote to reconsider than that,
original motion goes away. And
[2:41:22] vote to reconsider than that,
original motion goes away. And
you start from scratch. And
[2:41:24] original motion goes away. And
you start from scratch. And
then those motions that you
[2:41:25] you start from scratch. And
then those motions that you
make would be entitled to open
[2:41:26] then those motions that you
make would be entitled to open
to the public. Okay.
[2:41:30] make would be entitled to open
to the public. Okay.
>> there’s a motion. A second
[2:41:31] to the public. Okay.
>> there’s a motion. A second
to reconsider. The last
[2:41:31] >> there’s a motion. A second
to reconsider. The last
motion. No discussion.
[2:41:40] to reconsider. The last
motion. No discussion.
>> All those in favor. Aye
[2:41:41] motion. No discussion.
>> All those in favor. Aye
name. opposed. Okay. Motion
[2:41:44] >> All those in favor. Aye
name. opposed. Okay. Motion
carries 3, 2,
[2:41:47] name. opposed. Okay. Motion
carries 3, 2,
>> The last motion that was
[2:41:50] carries 3, 2,
>> The last motion that was
well, no longer be considered
[2:41:51] >> The last motion that was
well, no longer be considered
as a motion. We will start
[2:41:54] well, no longer be considered
as a motion. We will start
again.
[2:41:55] as a motion. We will start
again.
>> Madam Chair commissioner,
[2:41:56] again.
>> Madam Chair commissioner,
can restate my position that I
[2:41:59] >> Madam Chair commissioner,
can restate my position that I
totally disagree with the
[2:41:59] can restate my position that I
totally disagree with the
judge’s order? Believe that he
[2:42:00] totally disagree with the
judge’s order? Believe that he
got it wrong, but I am not
[2:42:03] judge’s order? Believe that he
got it wrong, but I am not
willing to spend any county
[2:42:06] got it wrong, but I am not
willing to spend any county
taxpayer money to appeal So I
[2:42:08] willing to spend any county
taxpayer money to appeal So I
would make a motion that we
[2:42:09] taxpayer money to appeal So I
would make a motion that we
accept the ruling and will
[2:42:11] would make a motion that we
accept the ruling and will
move forward. Hopefully the
[2:42:12] accept the ruling and will
move forward. Hopefully the
arena gendered item coming
[2:42:17] move forward. Hopefully the
arena gendered item coming
forward to make a text
[2:42:19] arena gendered item coming
forward to make a text
amendment to our ldc and
[2:42:22] forward to make a text
amendment to our ldc and
protect decisions that are
[2:42:22] amendment to our ldc and
protect decisions that are
made. previous arguments.
[2:42:29] protect decisions that are
made. previous arguments.
>> Motion by Commissioner
[2:42:30] made. previous arguments.
>> Motion by Commissioner
Canard second this second by
[2:42:30] >> Motion by Commissioner
Canard second this second by
Commissioner Kerik. Any public
[2:42:32] Canard second this second by
Commissioner Kerik. Any public
comment. chance for public
[2:42:36] Commissioner Kerik. Any public
comment. chance for public
comment? Any further board
[2:42:39] comment. chance for public
comment? Any further board
discussion? All those in
[2:42:43] comment? Any further board
discussion? All those in
favor. Aye, any opposed.
[2:42:46] discussion? All those in
favor. Aye, any opposed.
should raise 5, 0,
[2:43:01] >> To