[15:38] >> Good afternoon, everyone.
[15:39] Thank you for attending a
[15:40] regular Citrus County
[15:41] Commissioners Board of County
[15:44] commissioner meeting. We will
[15:45] start off with the prayer and
[15:48] the pledge we’re happy to have
[15:49] for indication today. Pastor
[15:53] Wayne Pratt from First Baptist
[15:54] Church who will come to the
[15:56] voting. That’s First Baptist
[15:57] Church of Beverly Hills and
[15:59] then it will be followed by
[16:00] the pledge for Corporal
[16:03] Michael Belkin, a Vietnam
[16:05] veteran with the U.S. Army and
[16:07] current Citrus County, all
[16:07] veteran honor guard. Thank you
[16:09] both for being here today. If
[16:12] you are able and willing,
[16:12] please stand with me.
[16:15] ♪
[16:18] Pastor.
[16:25] >> Pastor weighing Pratt. Are
[16:25] you here with us today? Anyone
[16:31] else would like to open us up.
[16:33] This rom-com. Thank you. Can
[16:42] you turn microphone on cat? Or cats here anymore? Thanks
[16:49] ISIS. K.
[16:49] >> Father didn’t happen. Peace
[16:51] be us today. If every seems to
[16:56] Kai and keep out the leaders.
[17:00] >> Perfectly fine. And then.
[17:02] >> Keep them safe. And that
[17:08] them know we do all day to all
[17:09] the things they can to keep
[17:11] these counting PETA full God,
[17:15] please help all of us here
[17:16] today. One to ever. Anybody
[17:18] need help from you from you,
[17:21] Lord. help Keep them safe.
[17:25] homes. If they go, police got
[17:29] place just building. Keep safe
[17:31] to do stuff. We want to do it
[17:33] in arrests and caught for Kiev
[17:38] us. If we do anything wrong in
[17:41] this life because I know you
[17:43] love We you what you’re in 4
[17:46] key for us. Lord, we love you
[17:49] and God bless everybody in
[17:51] here in the name. A few son,
[17:56] Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you.
[18:04] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[18:05] United States America and to
[18:09] public for which it stands.
[18:10] One nation under God with
[18:14] liberty justice for all.
[18:19] >> Thank you. You may be
[18:19] seated and thank you both for
[18:20] helping out today. Madam
[18:21] Clerk. This is a regular
[18:27] meeting of the Citrus County
[18:29] Board of County commissioners
[18:32] on 8th day of September 2026.
[18:33] In attendance. Our chair
[18:33] Dianne offend again.
[18:35] >> First Vice Chair Janet Bear
[18:39] Second Vice Chair Jeff Canard
[18:40] Commissioner Rebecca Bay’s
[18:41] Commissioner Holly Davis
[18:44] County Administrator. Sorry
[18:45] holiday. This is not present.
[18:45] Sorry. Commissioner county
[18:51] Administrator Steve Howard and
[18:52] County Attorney. Denise, a
[18:53] dime. And Lynn, thank Approval
[18:58] of the agenda, Mr. Howard,
[18:58] what do you have for us?
[19:02] >> Yes, just 2 E 7 is
[19:03] approval. Budget workshop
[19:04] dates. We looked at
[19:04] everybody’s calendar time
[19:06] sensitive and tell me proves
[19:07] necessary allow staff to
[19:10] adequate time to coordinate
[19:11] logistics, prepare materials,
[19:13] provide appropriate notice.
[19:14] The public other participants
[19:14] at the 7 C 13 ldc development
[19:18] Code amendment. So public
[19:20] hearing on September 21st 2026
[19:21] at one. 35 pm an ordinance
[19:24] amending the Land Development
[19:24] Code. That’s all I have. Thank
[19:26] you board.
[19:32] >> I’d like to make a motion
[19:33] that we accept agenda with the
[19:37] additions, that county and the
[19:37] Mr. Howard gave us.
[19:41] >> Motion by Commissioner
[19:43] Kerik second by Commissioner
[19:43] Bays. Any public comment. Any
[19:45] further board discussion? All
[19:47] those in favor. Aye, any
[19:51] opposed motion carries 4, 0,
[19:55] Okay. Are proclamations and
[19:56] awards. It looks like we have
[19:56] for them today. Madam Chair, I
[20:02] move approval.
[20:02] >> Item B, 1, 2, 3, 4, second
[20:06] motion by Commissioner Bay’s
[20:08] second by Commissioner
[20:08] Barrack. Any public comment.
[20:10] Any further board discussion?
[20:13] All those in favor. Aye, any
[20:15] opposed motion carries 4, 0,
[20:18] port. If you may, please join
[20:18] me
[20:33] >> What are those representing
[20:34] the friends of the Citrus
[20:35] County lever system? Please
[20:35] make your forward.
[20:50] Where is
[20:52] the work of the friends of the
[20:53] city’s kind library system
[20:54] supports our libraries and
[20:57] it’s a core set of community
[20:59] education, providing for
[20:59] everyone’s engage in a
[21:00] lifelong learning. And to
[21:02] connect with the thoughts
[21:02] ideas of the world. We’re the
[21:06] first of the city skyline
[21:07] versus them understand the
[21:07] critical importance of
[21:10] well-funded libraries and
[21:11] advocates to ensure that our
[21:11] libraries get resources needed
[21:13] to provide a wide variety of
[21:14] services, all ages. And
[21:18] whereas the time commitment
[21:18] given by the Friends of Life
[21:19] just highlight system since
[21:22] example for how volunteerism
[21:23] leads to positive civic
[21:24] engagement for the betterment
[21:25] of the community. Now,
[21:27] therefore, the board of county
[21:28] commissioners of just kind of
[21:30] Florida. extend our
[21:31] appreciation to the front of
[21:32] the lives Library system for
[21:34] the 25 years of service to our
[21:36] county and Polk and proclaim
[21:37] September 2026, as the Friends
[21:40] of Friends of the City County
[21:40] Library System Month and 2
[21:44] that they think September
[21:45] 2026.
[21:57] >> even more yellow skirt.
[22:12] >> First of all, I’d like to
[22:13] thank the board of County
[22:14] commissioners for this honor
[22:14] of the proclamation. And thank
[22:18] you to everyone for being here
[22:19] today. As we celebrate a truly
[22:21] remarkable milestone. 1.5
[22:24] million race for Citrus County
[22:25] Library system over the past.
[22:27] 25 years through our book
[22:29] sales prior to 2001 each
[22:32] library branch had their own
[22:32] friends group priced impact,
[22:35] donated books and banana boxes
[22:38] which restored in workroom at
[22:39] the library. Each branch had
[22:41] their own book sales in their
[22:44] community rooms until the day
[22:46] the fire Marshall came to the
[22:48] Lakes region library and
[22:49] determined that storing all
[22:51] those books and boxes were
[22:53] considered a fire hazard. That
[22:56] is when Leslie phrase
[22:58] president of the Lakes Region
[23:00] Library, friends talks with
[23:02] the 4 other friends groups
[23:04] about forming a centralized
[23:05] friends of the library
[23:07] organization with its own
[23:09] nonprofit status. Leslie
[23:11] applied for a 5, a one C 3
[23:13] status. The group received
[23:13] both state and federal
[23:15] approval. Each of the friends
[23:17] groups. We’re invited to join
[23:19] the newly developed friends of
[23:20] the Citrus County Library
[23:22] system. Also known as folk
[23:24] tales at the time the Friends
[23:26] of Lakes region, coastal
[23:29] region and Central Ridge
[23:29] agreed to work together for
[23:30] the betterment of the library
[23:32] system. Floral city joined
[23:34] focus in 2017. A board of
[23:38] directors was formed and then
[23:40] founding present founding
[23:41] members. President Leslie
[23:43] phrase and vice President
[23:44] Sandy Price took to the road.
[23:46] They visited libraries and
[23:49] surrounding counties in
[23:49] Florida, interviewing people
[23:50] who had bookstores, our
[23:51] friends of the library groups
[23:54] to know what categories and
[23:55] how they price their items.
[23:59] They share their information
[24:00] with the board and together
[24:01] decided how vocals would move
[24:03] forward at the same time,
[24:06] Leslie was meeting with
[24:06] community leaders searching
[24:08] for centralized location to
[24:09] sort mountains of donated
[24:12] books dust. The book House was
[24:14] formed. The first book Cause
[24:16] was in the auditorium of the
[24:16] historical Hernando School. It
[24:19] had no air conditioning, no
[24:20] heat and no electricity, but
[24:23] we had books, volunteers and a
[24:24] mission. And that was enough.
[24:27] About a year later we held our
[24:28] first focus book sale
[24:30] together. The combined sale
[24:32] raised approximately $20,000
[24:33] for the library after about 2
[24:36] years at the Hernando School,
[24:39] the Citrus County gave us a
[24:40] classroom in a newer facility
[24:41] on the same property which was
[24:44] shared by other nonprofits in
[24:46] the county. Our rent was just
[24:49] 300 $100 a month. And that was
[24:50] to help pay for utilities.
[24:53] Presently rewrite. We rent a
[24:54] space for $1400 a month money.
[24:57] We would rather give to the
[24:59] library system and look where
[25:01] the journey has taken today
[25:02] are book sales are raising
[25:03] more than 40,000 per sale. And
[25:07] we have now reached the
[25:07] extraordinary 1.5 million
[25:10] milestone. But this chalk that
[25:12] we have here today is so much
[25:13] represents so much more than
[25:14] money it represents. 25 years
[25:16] of donated books puzzles
[25:19] countless hours of sorting and
[25:22] pricing volunteers working the
[25:24] sales, people loading and
[25:26] unloading boxes, community
[25:27] partners who opened their
[25:28] doors to us and thousands of
[25:30] customers who came back to our
[25:31] sale. It’s a sale after stale
[25:34] because they believe in
[25:35] supporting the libraries. Most
[25:39] importantly, it represents
[25:40] what can happen when a group
[25:40] of people season need rolls up
[25:42] their sleeves and keeps going.
[25:46] Leslie phrase was instrumental
[25:47] in organizing the focused,
[25:49] non-profit organization and
[25:50] guiding the book sales and 2
[25:52] well-known community events.
[25:54] Our dear friend Leslie phrase
[25:56] passed away on May 31st of
[25:58] this year. Leslie’s love of
[26:01] books in libraries inspires
[26:02] all the friends of the
[26:04] library, her vision and
[26:06] determination made our journey
[26:07] happen. We are incredibly
[26:09] proud of what we have
[26:11] accomplished together and even
[26:12] more excited about what the
[26:13] next 25 years could bring.
[26:16] Thank you to all and
[26:17] congratulations to everyone
[26:18] who helped make this journey
[26:20] happen. Thank you very much.
[26:28] Israel is not
[26:31] ♪
[26:42] >> yes.
[26:49] >> With all those representing
[26:49] child Passenger Safety please
[26:50] make your way forward. work
[27:01] OK, was whereas child
[27:05] Passenger Safety Month is
[27:06] observed the September to
[27:07] highlight the importance of
[27:08] properly installed car seats
[27:09] for all passengers under age
[27:11] 12 in car crashes remain the
[27:13] leading cause of death for
[27:13] chip for children, ages one
[27:15] through 13 and whereas in
[27:17] 2023, more than 1000 us
[27:19] children were killed and
[27:21] 142,000 were injured motor
[27:23] vehicle crashes. And of those
[27:25] 43% were unrestrained at the
[27:26] time of the crash. Proper use
[27:29] of car seats can reduce fatal
[27:30] injuries to infants by 71%.
[27:33] And whereas approximately 46
[27:34] to 65% of car seats are
[27:35] misused, are installed
[27:37] incorrectly, the Department of
[27:39] Health and to just county
[27:39] offers a car seat check
[27:40] program to assist parents and
[27:43] caregivers ensure in the car
[27:43] seats are installed correctly.
[27:46] And whereas the department has
[27:47] provided more than 125 no cost
[27:50] car seats to Citrus County
[27:50] family. So far this year and
[27:53] now therefore be it proclaimed
[27:54] by the Citrus County Board of
[27:54] County Commissioners that
[27:55] September 2026 is hereby
[27:59] designated as Child Passenger
[27:59] Safety Month in Citrus County.
[28:02] And also dozens are encouraged
[28:03] to use the proper car seat
[28:04] every time for every ride
[28:06] executed. This 8th day of
[28:07] September 2026.
[28:19] >> We want thank the Bocc for
[28:21] this proclamation for
[28:22] recognizing Child Passenger
[28:22] Safety Month in Florida on
[28:25] behalf of the Department of
[28:26] Health, we are honored to
[28:28] accept that and reaffirm our
[28:29] commitment to protecting the
[28:29] youngest members of our
[28:31] community. Child passenger
[28:32] safety is one of the most
[28:34] effective ways we can prevent
[28:36] serious injuries and save
[28:37] lives every properly installed
[28:40] car seat represents a safer
[28:41] ride or a more protected child
[28:42] and a family with a greater
[28:43] peace of mind. Over the past
[28:46] year, our team has worked hard
[28:47] to deepen our outreach and
[28:49] respond directly to the needs
[28:49] that we see every day in 2025.
[28:53] We distributed saw 38 seats
[28:55] this year. We’ve already
[28:55] reached 138. And we’re not
[28:59] stopping. This growth reflects
[29:02] a trust that our community
[29:03] places in us and our
[29:03] dedication to expanding access
[29:04] education and hands-on
[29:06] support. Thank you for
[29:08] recognizing the importance of
[29:09] this work and for standing
[29:10] with us as we continue to
[29:11] build a safer future for
[29:11] Florida’s children.
[29:22] >> But all those representing
[29:23] Crime Stoppers Awareness
[29:23] Month, please make your way
[29:24] forward. Where is the
[29:34] foundation of Crime Stoppers?
[29:35] Is the partnership between the
[29:36] community, law enforcement and
[29:37] partnering partnering agencies
[29:37] and the Media Crime Stoppers
[29:41] works educate the public,
[29:41] create awareness and provide
[29:43] citizens the opportunity to
[29:44] report suspicious or criminal
[29:46] activity anonymously. And
[29:48] whereas Crime Stoppers
[29:48] Awareness Month promotes
[29:49] awareness through education
[29:50] campaigns, Crime Stoppers of
[29:52] Citrus County in cousin is
[29:53] committed to fostering
[29:56] community safety. And since
[29:57] inception in 2009 has received
[29:57] over 15,962 tips which have
[30:00] led to 584 arrests. 653 cases
[30:05] cleared. These tips have also
[30:07] aid in the recovery of
[30:08] $161,095 and stolen property.
[30:11] And nearly 1.5 million illicit
[30:12] drugs off of our streets. And
[30:16] whereas the city whereas Crime
[30:18] Stoppers of Citrus County
[30:19] actively works with members of
[30:20] the community, law enforcement
[30:21] and the media as a community
[30:22] safety service, pro partner,
[30:24] its continued success can be
[30:25] attributed to the continued
[30:27] support county officials,
[30:28] residents, law enforcement and
[30:30] community organizations within
[30:32] Citrus County. Now, therefore,
[30:33] the board of County
[30:35] commissioners of Citrus
[30:36] County, Florida, hereby
[30:36] proclaim the month of
[30:37] September 2026 as Crime
[30:38] Stoppers Awareness Month and
[30:41] joins in honoring the men and
[30:42] whose diligence and
[30:43] professionalism keeps our
[30:45] citizens safe. Execute 8th day
[30:46] of September. 2026. Thank you.
[30:54] Commissioners.
[30:59] >> Crime Stoppers is a
[31:00] nonprofit program whose
[31:02] dollars are raised by applying
[31:03] for grants and through
[31:05] fundraising Crime Stoppers
[31:06] program, support local law
[31:08] enforcement by providing an
[31:09] outlet for the community to
[31:12] report information or tips
[31:14] relative to a criminal
[31:15] incident. These tips are
[31:17] anonymous. The tipster’s
[31:22] identity remains anonymous
[31:22] throughout the process. If the
[31:25] tip leads to an arrest or a
[31:27] warrant, the tipster gets paid
[31:28] in cash. Crime Stoppers
[31:32] nationwide is celebrating its
[31:34] 50th anniversary this year.
[31:37] Crime Stoppers of Citrus
[31:38] County is celebrating its 17th
[31:39] year. Since 2009 Crime
[31:44] Stoppers of Citrus County has
[31:47] seen a 20% increase in tips
[31:50] received and rewards paid out.
[31:53] What this means to our
[31:55] community is we’re able to
[31:56] help law enforcement
[31:57] anonymously.
[32:18] >> All those who are here for
[32:20] the recognition of the 20
[32:20] year. So a partnership was it
[32:21] just kind of library forward?
[32:31] So just county board of county
[32:32] commissioners extends its
[32:33] sincere gratitude to our local
[32:35] subway franchise owners. David
[32:35] and Scott Lambeau for
[32:39] extraordinary 20 years. Years
[32:39] of partnership every September
[32:40] during library Card sign-up
[32:42] month, providing free kids
[32:43] packs the local kindergarten
[32:45] students to sign up for a
[32:47] library card. Community
[32:49] partnerships, such as this
[32:50] exemplify the very best of
[32:51] community commitment,
[32:51] generosity and local
[32:53] collaboration. Your generosity
[32:55] helped make helped make the
[32:58] excitement of getting a first
[32:59] library card even more
[32:59] meaningful for generations of
[33:00] Citrus County children
[33:03] encouraging young students and
[33:04] their families to discover all
[33:04] that their public library has
[33:07] to offer for 2 decades are
[33:08] coming into this partnership
[33:09] has supported early literacy
[33:11] and hers and love of reading
[33:12] and help connect thousands of
[33:13] children with the library.
[33:14] important moment in their
[33:17] lives. Your generosity
[33:18] continued investment in the
[33:19] children and families in
[33:19] Citrus County are deeply
[33:20] appreciated and do not go
[33:21] unnoticed. We are truly
[33:22] grateful for 20 years of
[33:23] partnership, generosity and
[33:24] commitment to our community
[33:26] and for the lasting impact you
[33:28] made by helping to just county
[33:30] children begin their library
[33:31] journeys. The board of county
[33:32] commissioners of Citrus County
[33:35] and regular session is a day
[33:36] of September 2026 does. does
[33:38] he recognize? Subway’s
[33:39] commitment to the people. So
[33:42] just county executed this 8th
[33:43] day of September 2026.
[33:52] >> Good afternoon, everyone.
[33:53] And thank you so to the board
[33:56] and to our wonderful partners
[33:56] at Subway for the recognition
[33:59] for the last 20 years, we have
[34:00] had the opportunity to partner
[34:03] with Subway as well as our
[34:04] local public and private
[34:07] schools to ensure that when we
[34:08] are handing out library card
[34:09] applications to all of our
[34:10] kindergarten and families. But
[34:10] they also get kids pack
[34:14] coupons and to be able to go
[34:15] and get us up. And so any
[34:17] every kindergarten student,
[34:18] whether they’re in the public
[34:18] or private school, that that
[34:19] get the opportunity and so
[34:20] thank you so much. We
[34:21] appreciate it.
[34:36] They the
[34:45] board’s kitten.
[34:50] >> Situated here. We had a one
[34:52] 15 times certain for Platte
[34:53] vacation PD 2026. 0, 0, 0, 0,
[34:58] 3, Meyer, the parties here.
[35:00] Will join us here.
[35:16] Thank you.
[35:24] And all applicants are here.
[35:28] The applicant here for the
[35:28] plastic Asian. Let’s send the
[35:34] trust in me. Okay. Okay. Go
[35:35] ahead and proceed. No worries.
[35:39] All right. So this is an
[35:40] application to vacate a 7 and
[35:40] a half foot utility easements.
[35:43] There are multiple lots
[35:43] in-home assassin, Grove
[35:44] Street.
[35:46] >> So this is the site. They
[35:47] own 6, lots there and you can
[35:50] see the easements lying in the
[35:51] middle also go running
[35:53] north-south. And they do want
[35:54] to build that one residents
[35:55] here. So those easements are
[35:55] definitely in the way. This is
[35:59] a better map as far as land
[36:00] development code. You can see
[36:01] the specific easements are
[36:01] trying vacate. Looking up and
[36:06] down the road. It’s partially
[36:08] developed who you would not
[36:08] know the easements are there.
[36:09] However, website went too far.
[36:13] picture the easement. But
[36:13] there really isn’t anything to
[36:14] see. Staff did review this and
[36:19] had no objections and utility
[36:21] companies have reviewed this
[36:22] as well and had no objections.
[36:24] >> Thank you. Forget any
[36:24] questions. I will open this up
[36:31] to the public. anyone have
[36:32] anything to say about the plat
[36:35] vacation that presented before
[36:36] us? Last chance?
[36:44] >> You have to come to the
[36:45] microphone and state your name
[36:46] and where you’re from. And you
[36:48] have 3 minutes to present.
[36:53] >> Name’s Jimmy Burrows. I
[36:56] live Chelsea court. This
[36:59] easement backs up to my house.
[37:01] What wondering, what is going
[37:04] to happen to the main road
[37:07] that comes in. There’s 2 of us
[37:08] that live on that same road we
[37:12] don’t know if it’s going to be
[37:14] taken over or what’s going on
[37:18] with it. And why wasn’t a
[37:19] residents who back up to this
[37:21] property allowed purchase
[37:27] property from the county if
[37:27] the county is going sell it.
[37:32] >> Jamie, so it’s my
[37:33] understanding in this
[37:34] application that the easement
[37:35] a backup to anybody’s
[37:37] property. The owner owns both
[37:37] sides of the easement.
[37:41] >> They do know there is an
[37:42] easement on the to the left
[37:44] that property one. 22 there on
[37:44] that map is someone else’s.
[37:47] But that’s not know easements
[37:48] on that property being
[37:49] vacated. It’s just on where
[37:50] you see one. 23, this is not
[37:53] something that’s being
[37:54] purchased. This is something
[37:55] that’s on by the public and
[37:56] the public’s not selling it.
[37:57] They’re releasing it releasing
[37:59] those easements and the
[38:01] roadways themselves. Chelsea
[38:02] Grove, Grand March happiness.
[38:04] None of those are changing
[38:05] with this application. Just
[38:06] those internal easements on
[38:07] their specific property are
[38:08] disappearing. Okay. The
[38:11] >> this easement is right
[38:12] directly behind my house. my
[38:15] lot. Okay. It. Why wasn’t it
[38:22] presented to the owners of the
[38:23] property. To be able to
[38:27] purchase us if we wanted to.
[38:30] extend our property.
[38:33] >> So that easement does not
[38:34] back up to your property line.
[38:35] That easements not being
[38:36] vacated. It’s only an easement
[38:38] between the prep in the right
[38:41] in the middle of the person
[38:42] owns the property, the
[38:45] easement being vacated is not
[38:46] touching anyone else’s
[38:48] property.
[38:49] >> Not to mention anybody
[38:50] else. So there’s still 100
[38:52] foot easement behind my
[38:53] property and the fellow that
[38:54] behind me. He goes 234 feet
[39:00] back there and it should be 50
[39:03] feet wide because they hold
[39:04] the easement bank. There is
[39:05] 100 foot wide.
[39:09] >> I I suspect he’s talking
[39:10] about the roadways. Yes,
[39:11] you’re on. Chelsea. Other
[39:12] roadways are not being touch
[39:13] with this application. So
[39:16] happy just it’s called
[39:17] Happiness Street between the
[39:17] Chelsea area and the Grove
[39:19] Street chapter happen to
[39:20] street is not being impacted
[39:23] by this. Okay. In any way
[39:25] they’ll stay. I understand
[39:26] that part. But there’s that
[39:27] they’re the easement behind my
[39:31] property. Answer a few back up
[39:31] and you can look at the screen
[39:34] and there’s the shaded part
[39:36] with an arrow and that’s the
[39:36] easement you are on Chelsea
[39:39] Court, which, you know,
[39:40] there’s the easement on the
[39:41] property. Then there’s
[39:42] happiness. Then does a bunch
[39:43] of properties. And then
[39:43] there’s Chelsea. Just the line
[39:49] with the arrow pointing see
[39:50] the line with the air. yeah.
[39:54] There it. That easement goes
[39:57] almost all the way to the end
[39:57] of the properties.
[40:01] >> I correct?
[40:02] >> The only spot being vacated
[40:06] is the horizontal shaded part.
[40:08] That’s it. S that sent it. So
[40:10] they represent. But Stan,
[40:14] Correct. Okay. Yeah. Thank
[40:14] you. Thank you, sir. Anyone
[40:17] else?
[40:21] >> Okay with that, I will
[40:23] close the public portion
[40:23] board.
[40:27] >> Motion to plot BK shun 2002
[40:32] 26 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, Meyer.
[40:36] >> Motion by Commissioner
[40:37] Davis second by Commissioner
[40:38] Barrick any further board
[40:39] discussion. All those in
[40:42] favor, aye, any opposed motion
[40:43] carries 5, 0, Madam Chair,
[40:47] sir.
[40:49] >> Like make a request that we
[40:49] move my agenda item L one. We
[40:54] do have some special guests in
[40:54] the audience here that I’m
[40:57] sure would like to address
[40:59] that. that’s why we’re not
[41:00] keeping them waiting. Hall
[41:00] meeting.
[41:02] >> Okay. Born.
[41:06] >> Absolutely. Yes, yes. Yes.
[41:10] Thank you. Okay. To want to
[41:10] hear it. Yeah. Sounds great,
[41:18] OK?
[41:19] >> Jumping forward to one
[41:19] commissioner can argue have
[41:20] the floor.
[41:24] >> Yes, this is something
[41:27] that’s
[41:27] >> I believe the board has had
[41:28] a brief discussion about it in
[41:32] the past we have not brought
[41:33] it back forward for a formal
[41:35] vote. Commissioner
[41:41] >> as as told a number of
[41:42] people sense put this out
[41:45] there that this was his baby
[41:45] was not wildly popular. The
[41:49] time.
[41:50] >> But he had being the the
[41:51] big thinker that he was.
[41:55] >> The long-term plan or that
[41:56] he was he knew this was the
[41:57] right move in March forward.
[42:00] He carried the land or not and
[42:02] consequently to call their own
[42:04] support today. As we all know,
[42:06] it’s it’s wildly popular with
[42:08] the with the public. I think
[42:13] it’s it’s appropriate at this
[42:15] time for we’ll followed Glee
[42:20] challenge district one
[42:21] commissioner to bring this
[42:23] forward and request that that
[42:27] we form a naming committee for
[42:27] the Middle. Chris government
[42:30] building to rename it and and
[42:33] his honor. And I’m very proud
[42:34] to have this on on the agenda.
[42:36] So I would make that motion
[42:39] that we direct county staff we
[42:40] direct the administrator to
[42:44] form group to rename the
[42:46] Middle Crest. A government
[42:46] building second.
[42:49] >> Motion by commissioner can
[42:52] second by Commissioner Davis.
[42:53] Any public comment one
[42:54] renaming the building.
[43:07] Welcome. I don’t think either
[43:08] one of you need to review
[43:11] timing rules state. Your name
[43:11] for us.
[43:14] >> I am the wife of
[43:15] commissioner to my name is Pat
[43:18] and I want to thank all of you
[43:19] so much for this. Whatever
[43:21] we’re doing today, I am so
[43:25] happy that this is hopefully
[43:26] going to take place. I know
[43:28] that dentist would just
[43:32] totally thrilled. Were he
[43:33] here? And Daniel and I
[43:37] appreciate everything and
[43:40] everything that’s been done in
[43:40] set for him. Thank you all so
[43:44] much. Thank you. Thank you for
[43:44] being here. Pat.
[43:49] >> Mayer.
[43:49] >> Good afternoon, everybody.
[43:50] My name is Joe me. not here on
[43:52] any city business, but I just
[43:55] to my friend. And I’m gonna
[43:58] get emotional here. I promise
[44:01] you that’s going to happen.
[44:02] Pat and for Commissioner
[44:03] Tomato, I think everyone here
[44:04] knows Commission tomato at the
[44:07] time, as you know, and nothing
[44:08] that you guys do is not
[44:12] controversial. That’s just how
[44:12] the world is right now. But at
[44:15] the time that was very
[44:16] controversial thing Commission
[44:17] tomato, I can tell you as
[44:18] someone that served with him
[44:18] at the time, it was all him.
[44:22] He he was spearheaded that
[44:25] building the purchase, worked
[44:27] with it did a great job and at
[44:30] the time it was a lot of
[44:32] money. 3.3 million dollars.
[44:34] But looking back on it and
[44:35] what it afforded the county to
[44:38] be able to do, we never would
[44:39] have been able to do Build a
[44:41] building. It’s solved. Many
[44:44] issues up Westside government
[44:46] space. All the constitutional
[44:47] officers and it was all him.
[44:49] And so I think this would be a
[44:52] fitting tribute. Start that
[44:53] process and talk about it. I’m
[44:54] grateful for everybody up
[44:55] here. I know each of you. knew
[44:58] him it’s a much deserving
[45:01] honor. And I think it’s an
[45:02] awesome thing that you guys
[45:03] are doing. So thank you very
[45:05] much. God bless you guys being
[45:06] here thank you so much again.
[45:09] Thank you, Ed.
[45:11] >> Anyone else would like
[45:12] speak one. With that. I’ll
[45:15] close the public comment.
[45:21] Board.
[45:21] >> Chairs yeah, I just want to
[45:22] thank commissioner Canard for
[45:24] bringing this forward. I was
[45:24] very pleased to sit down with
[45:26] Dennis right after actually,
[45:30] maybe think I was still
[45:31] running before I even one and
[45:32] he gave me a lot of his
[45:34] original early papers on
[45:38] Biggs, you know, strategy for
[45:38] the county and so forth. So it
[45:40] was it was really productive
[45:43] conversation delighted to get
[45:43] to know him. And of course,
[45:45] and got along great, too.
[45:49] >> Commissioner Kerik. Okay.
[45:52] You know, I don’t like what I
[45:52] have to say. Dana. Since 2010.
[45:56] I came to the board meetings,
[45:57] commissioner.
[46:01] >> You know, just before you
[46:02] know was on. And so
[46:04] commissioner week. What, Joe,
[46:08] what Dennis and a passion for.
[46:12] Is what I would like to seek
[46:12] named for him. And that would
[46:15] be the trail that in Crystal
[46:17] River because he had a passion
[46:18] for rails to trails and he
[46:21] shared a whole lot of things
[46:23] with me for the rails to
[46:24] trails, including all the
[46:26] books from all of the
[46:26] committees that he went to.
[46:28] And if it weren’t for him, the
[46:30] rails to trails, which we have
[46:32] now. Because he wanted to
[46:35] connected. Statewide. To me,
[46:41] that would most fitting for
[46:42] Dennis Tomatoes. Name to be
[46:43] on. Rather than just a
[46:45] building. And yet West Side
[46:48] building is a nice building.
[46:49] But I will not support this
[46:52] because I feel that Dennis
[46:53] would prefer. And that’s from
[46:58] known him. And you know that
[46:59] he and I went back and forth
[47:00] and back and force. He gave me
[47:04] lots of information. I listen
[47:05] got a lot of advice from him.
[47:07] To me. That was his passion.
[47:11] His strength. The riding the
[47:15] bikes to walking the family’s
[47:17] to doing things in this county
[47:18] because that’s what it was all
[47:18] about. So if I were put a name
[47:23] and a half to put money out to
[47:24] change names and James Jags
[47:25] and everything. I would be
[47:28] more everything for me as a
[47:31] friend. as somebody that learn
[47:33] from him to do trailing edge
[47:36] Crystal River right on 46.
[47:39] Anyone Commissioner bills?
[47:43] someone who served with
[47:51] Commissioner Tomato. He could
[47:55] be known for many things. He
[47:57] was.
[48:01] >> Probably part of I enjoyed
[48:02] learning from him. He was one
[48:03] of the biggest fish in areas
[48:04] this county. There’s many
[48:09] things to be thankful for. His
[48:11] mission throughout this
[48:12] county, the trails, the
[48:13] Westside Government Center.
[48:17] The medical corridor which is
[48:18] lost his designation. And that
[48:24] was a man who struggled with
[48:26] his own physical impairments
[48:28] during that time. Joe and I or
[48:30] do Rex, all of us were do Rex.
[48:35] I can’t think of something
[48:36] that would be more fitting
[48:39] proud to support this. I happy
[48:43] belated birthday. As someone
[48:49] who didn’t serve.
[48:52] >> With him, but just a young
[48:54] girl in the community and
[48:56] non-profit work and sometimes
[48:56] running around with his
[48:57] daughter. Also doing
[49:00] non-profit work back during
[49:03] that time, he was just like a
[49:06] and a through the cancer and
[49:09] through the hard times who the
[49:09] stuff kind and loving. I knew
[49:12] beyond that he tried to think
[49:16] of the lecanto area, you know,
[49:18] always fight for us to get
[49:19] things to look better and be
[49:21] better. And always thought better. And one of the
[49:24] best for Citrus County. And
[49:28] that was somebody much younger
[49:30] and maybe not all in paying
[49:31] attention to government at the
[49:33] time. and that still always
[49:36] took time to be kind and
[49:37] helpful to me whenever he
[49:38] could. I do. No. His impact
[49:43] with Meadow crest. obviously
[49:43] that would be fitting. I think
[49:48] that’s wonderful that he was
[49:50] also involved so much in the
[49:51] trailhead. I didn’t know that,
[49:52] but that’s just piling why?
[49:58] the Inter should be? Yes,
[49:59] I we’ve we’ve got we’ve got 1, thing he can. He can have a
[50:05] lasting impression. So we’re
[50:09] thankful for for the service
[50:10] that he gave Citrus County and
[50:12] the kindness beyond politics
[50:16] that he gave to individuals
[50:17] young and old. So thank you,
[50:18] commissioner. anything for
[50:23] Okay. All those in favor. Aye.
[50:25] Any opposed high.
[50:28] >> Motion carries for one
[50:30] think graduations. Pat,
[50:34] congratulations hopefully
[50:35] Daniel’s able to to be
[50:36] watching right now. full to
[50:45] the consent agenda.
[50:48] >> Motion to approve the
[50:49] consent agenda.
[50:52] >> Second motion by
[50:53] Commissioner Davis second by
[50:54] Commissioner Canard. Any
[50:55] public comment. Any further
[50:59] board discussion, all those in
[51:00] favor. Aye, any opposed motion
[51:04] carries 5, 0, It is time for
[51:08] open to the public. This is
[51:09] time that you can speak to the
[51:11] board about whatever you have
[51:13] concerns. We will go and
[51:14] order. You should have a green
[51:15] card if you don’t there on the
[51:16] table over there and they’re
[51:17] in numerical order. You have 3
[51:19] minutes to address the board.
[51:21] Please direct all comments to
[51:23] me. The board chair. Keep it
[51:26] germane to county business and
[51:30] respectful state. Your name
[51:31] and where you’re from. And
[51:32] looking for speaker number
[51:32] one.
[51:36] >> Welcome.
[51:45] >> My name is Valentine. I
[51:50] live in Citrus County. And now
[51:54] I’m looking forward to 45
[51:55] degree weather this is the
[51:58] sheet is too But anyway, I’m
[52:02] here to ask the County
[52:04] commission if they could
[52:05] really. Talk to the library
[52:08] board, have input section
[52:11] library about Charlie Kirk.
[52:16] Back and about this. The man
[52:20] deserves something in a
[52:21] library. This is going to be
[52:24] the anniversary and grocery of
[52:24] this a nation. I heard that
[52:28] library board. Was can was
[52:33] going to consider it, but then
[52:34] took away that to took took it
[52:36] away because they said he was
[52:38] not historical figure with.
[52:41] Historical figures. Anyone.
[52:47] impacts society either in a
[52:50] Blodget of light or in a
[52:51] negative light. Hitler Pol
[52:56] Those historical figures and
[53:00] you have Martin Luther King
[53:03] and you have Charlie Kirk. And
[53:06] to me, they are both the sea.
[53:07] They have both.
[53:11] >> Been on eye.
[53:15] >> The record of well like
[53:17] saying. Martin Luther King
[53:22] wanted the right to for the
[53:24] right to speak his mind. He
[53:27] spoke. For the spirit rather
[53:30] than the flash. So that
[53:32] Charlie He believe in family
[53:36] values so that Charlie Kirk.
[53:39] He was an influential. So if
[53:43] Charlie Kirk, he influenced
[53:45] many, many people brought them
[53:47] to Christianity, especially
[53:48] college students made him
[53:49] think about their lives. He
[53:52] was for. Marriage rather than
[53:58] race you know, he was so many
[54:03] of these things we all hold
[54:05] dear, the nuclear family, man
[54:09] being man woman, being woman.
[54:13] People trying to say that was
[54:15] controversial. No, it’s not.
[54:17] It’s what it is. The
[54:20] mandate church, something in a
[54:21] library. And if anybody could.
[54:23] Get him. To get little patient
[54:27] there. At least a little
[54:29] memorial to the fact that he
[54:30] has done good in society. The
[54:33] only difference between him
[54:36] and Martin Luther King is that
[54:37] he was white. Martin Luther
[54:38] was black. And that’s the only
[54:42] difference I see in a lot of
[54:43] people see that he’s got a
[54:47] movement going. It’s turning
[54:48] Point USA that is really
[54:48] catching on. And it might have
[54:51] a lot to do with easement
[54:53] times. So bear that mine and
[54:56] give the he’s a man a break.
[54:58] He was assassinated to what he
[54:58] believed. He was a good
[54:59] person. I appreciate your
[55:02] attention and thank you for
[55:03] that. Thank you.
[55:04] >> Next, Speaker. Number 3.
[55:14] Mr. Had early.
[55:17] >> Good afternoon. Madam Chair
[55:19] Vice Chair. Derek
[55:23] Commissioners. My name is
[55:23] Chuck I live in Inverness. I
[55:25] was at the during a fever.
[55:30] mosquito-borne are and I tried
[55:32] to learn what I can learn
[55:32] about the issue and the good
[55:34] work that they’re doing. So I
[55:36] went on talk to my neighbor
[55:39] and told her about what I and
[55:42] why we were talking. I noticed
[55:43] a puff of smoke out there near
[55:45] banning at Benning Road. And I
[55:49] thought it was just a washing
[55:49] machine or something going on.
[55:51] Smoke and suddenly it turned
[55:53] black and said that that house
[55:57] next door is on fire. That
[55:59] older nobody was around. It
[56:00] was just me and her. she said
[56:03] someone might be in there. I
[56:06] went to pound on the door and
[56:07] the door was hot. So I got
[56:08] away and she’s phoning 9-1-1.
[56:11] And she said, Go Rescue. The
[56:12] dog gets in the pack that in
[56:14] and I’m not a dog person with
[56:17] I’ve seen the dog in the in
[56:20] the ground and it’s up big
[56:21] dog. so I rescued a dog and on
[56:25] guys, it’s safe. And just want
[56:29] to say how good the fire
[56:30] department. The police and
[56:36] everybody there. She
[56:38] practically up hung up the
[56:39] phone and they I could hear
[56:40] them coming right away. went
[56:43] to the city council and told
[56:45] them about the good response
[56:47] from there fire department
[56:50] South Apopka. And I just
[56:51] wanted make mention here for
[56:53] the county. This is what we
[56:55] pay for got to see it
[56:57] firsthand. The
[57:01] professionalism, the speed
[57:02] this house was about ready to
[57:03] ignite. It was starting to.
[57:04] Tough like Todd thank Thank
[57:11] you for all of the people that
[57:13] were involved there, the him
[57:15] and most of them on. People.
[57:20] Very quick and very fast, very
[57:21] professional.
[57:25] >> Thank you. Thanks for
[57:26] saving the dog. Your hero.
[57:32] >> Chief,
[57:32] >> thank you. And to all those
[57:33] involved, that’s wonderful
[57:35] news to hear that we were able
[57:36] to save people and possibly
[57:36] save the home.
[57:41] >> Welcome. How are you? Good.
[57:42] afternoon board. My name
[57:43] is John Labriola. I’m with the
[57:46] letter on file for the
[57:47] Christian Family Coalition for
[57:47] 5 Minutes. If it’s okay. And
[57:51] As I my name is on every ally
[57:52] represent the Christian Family
[57:52] Coalition where statewide
[57:55] organization we lobby not only
[57:55] Tallahassee, but also school
[57:59] boards in county commissions
[57:59] like yourself to defend
[58:00] religious freedoms into.
[58:02] Promote family values and the
[58:06] reason I’m here today is
[58:06] because recently are actually
[58:10] let month the county
[58:14] commission voted on the policy
[58:14] for the library displays the
[58:20] chairwoman dining Finnegan
[58:21] said that the policy would
[58:24] allow historical displays of
[58:25] Charlie Kirk Martin Luther
[58:27] King’s specifically 2 days
[58:28] later, the Library advisory
[58:31] board met and literally just
[58:34] contradicted the county
[58:34] commission. Is that no, that’s
[58:35] wrong. Charlie Kirk is not
[58:36] just Oracle. I feel that
[58:36] that’s you know, defying the proper authority. I think
[58:42] that’s we fight with way out
[58:45] of line. And I told you this
[58:45] before that are liberals or
[58:46] cowards because, you know, a
[58:49] couple of constructing a
[58:50] couple of liberal showed up
[58:51] mostly conservative short of
[58:54] that board as did to you know,
[58:55] prove a library policy library
[58:56] display for Charlie Kirk and
[58:58] they ended up going with a
[59:00] couple of people called
[59:02] divisive. One of the members
[59:03] actually said decisive. I
[59:05] don’t know the quality the
[59:08] people that being approved for
[59:08] the support of is just kind
[59:09] of. Totally inappropriate. So
[59:15] either just to publish the
[59:16] border, please you know, it
[59:16] appointing conservatives that
[59:20] represent the people of Citrus
[59:21] County, not the polar
[59:22] opposite. Only one
[59:22] conservative right now on that
[59:25] board. But regardless of that,
[59:26] I think that the county
[59:27] commission needs to just, you
[59:28] know, say what they already
[59:32] said that the policy says,
[59:32] which is that allows Charlie
[59:37] book The I want let you know
[59:39] that this morning I was at the
[59:39] Lake County Commission meeting
[59:43] and we there were several of
[59:43] us that went and we all asked
[59:47] them to do a library. I mean,
[59:48] Charlie Kirk, the of
[59:49] remembrance because up in
[59:50] Tallahassee this year there
[59:53] was a bill that would declared
[59:54] October the 14th, which is
[59:56] Charlie Kirk’s birthday, the
[59:56] Charlie Kirk, remembrance.
[59:58] passed the House of
[1:00:00] Representatives. But when he
[1:00:01] went to the Senate, pass all
[1:00:03] the committees, but the rules
[1:00:04] chair decided not to allow to
[1:00:04] come to the floor for a vote.
[1:00:07] So the Christian family
[1:00:08] collisions been going around
[1:00:08] to different counties and
[1:00:10] asking them to do a Charlie
[1:00:12] Crist, a remembrance a number
[1:00:12] of counties have already
[1:00:14] agreed. This is a list of the
[1:00:16] counties that have honor
[1:00:17] Charlie Kirk, either by naming
[1:00:18] roads after a nearby declaring
[1:00:20] 2 14, the day remembrance in
[1:00:24] some cases allowing our
[1:00:26] requesting a book display. The
[1:00:26] libraries. Sumter, Marion,
[1:00:30] Hernando Lake Gilchrist,
[1:00:31] Jefferson, Flagler, Collier,
[1:00:34] Manatee Walton There may be
[1:00:37] others but Citrus County is
[1:00:39] one of the very few that
[1:00:39] hasn’t done anything either
[1:00:42] Murrow display. I mean, story
[1:00:43] of a road renaming a A day of
[1:00:45] remembrance, a book display
[1:00:46] and I just want remind why
[1:00:49] Charlie Kirk was killed.
[1:00:53] Charlie Kirk’s killer,
[1:00:55] although he wasn’t
[1:00:56] transgender, he was dating a
[1:00:57] transgender. And the reason
[1:00:57] that he was upset, Charlie
[1:00:58] Kirk is because basically
[1:01:00] spoke difficult truth that and
[1:01:03] cannot become a And that is
[1:01:04] just. The vast majority.
[1:01:08] People agree with that. the
[1:01:10] best majority people in sit in
[1:01:12] Citrus County, especially are
[1:01:14] Christians and they don’t want
[1:01:17] a target on their back because
[1:01:17] they don’t agree that a man
[1:01:18] can become a woman. And
[1:01:21] basically that’s why he was
[1:01:21] killed. And when the library
[1:01:25] advisory board, you know that
[1:01:27] they decide because a couple
[1:01:28] of people, including a
[1:01:29] transgender community, trance,
[1:01:30] whatever transvestite comes to
[1:01:31] the library advisory board.
[1:01:33] And says he was divisive. They
[1:01:36] say, oh, we can have a display
[1:01:37] of him now. The same meeting,
[1:01:41] the library director said that
[1:01:42] Black History Month will
[1:01:44] continue. Black History Month
[1:01:46] displays include Malcolm X,
[1:01:46] who was. anti white extremist.
[1:01:51] You know, so you can have a
[1:01:52] month-long of Malcolm X and
[1:01:53] not even a week of Charlie
[1:01:56] Kirk. So I think it’s very
[1:01:56] important that the county
[1:01:59] commission now that they’ve
[1:02:00] created a policy and they’ve
[1:02:02] interpreted in a certain way
[1:02:03] that they allow a Charlie Kirk
[1:02:04] display for one week in
[1:02:05] October the other thing I
[1:02:10] wanted to just briefly
[1:02:10] addresses that. A couple
[1:02:16] meetings that EU meetings
[1:02:16] before the election. I
[1:02:17] mentioned that I felt that the
[1:02:19] sheriff should be here before
[1:02:20] you and I I believe he’s going
[1:02:21] to be here on today’s turnout
[1:02:24] during the budget tentative
[1:02:25] budget session. And when he’s
[1:02:29] here, I want you to ask him
[1:02:30] about the how that sheriff’s
[1:02:32] office is responding to death.
[1:02:34] That threat complaints.
[1:02:37] Actually, I didn’t know that
[1:02:38] she would be here, but the the
[1:02:40] candidate who? Was that fit?
[1:02:45] My uh, I want you to address
[1:02:47] that during a budget hearing.
[1:02:48] Thank you so much.
[1:02:50] >> Thanks for being here.
[1:02:51] Next. Speaker. You are what
[1:02:52] number Mr. The roof or here
[1:02:53] are 3, 4. For 5. Coming up. I
[1:03:09] don’t there wasn’t a to I
[1:03:09] don’t think there’s a 4. Here
[1:03:13] are 3, okay. Come on up. I do.
[1:03:20] Mister Pat.
[1:03:20] >> I’m doing good. Joe Papp
[1:03:22] Citrus County Crystal River.
[1:03:26] Every you know, the couple
[1:03:27] spoke about Charlie Kirk. I
[1:03:28] don’t have a whole lot to add.
[1:03:32] But to me, this is a barometer
[1:03:32] right for the hearts and minds
[1:03:33] of the leaders of this
[1:03:34] community. And with some
[1:03:39] looking stand up and I don’t
[1:03:39] even this is logical. Doesn’t
[1:03:41] make sense. Charlie Kirk was
[1:03:44] influencer, the influence he
[1:03:45] gave a different point of
[1:03:46] view. 2 liberal colleges to
[1:03:51] students with you Rush
[1:03:52] Limbaugh’s skate say schools
[1:03:57] for most young Scot will.
[1:03:57] However, he said it. It
[1:04:00] doesn’t make sense. He was an
[1:04:02] influencer. Yes, he gave
[1:04:04] college students an opposite
[1:04:04] view of the liberal stuff.
[1:04:06] They were teaching. And I
[1:04:10] don’t understand there was no
[1:04:10] politics. He wasn’t running
[1:04:12] for anything. He didn’t. I
[1:04:14] mean, you know, if you’re
[1:04:15] conservative, you can say good
[1:04:17] things about conservatives.
[1:04:18] Malcolm X can say bad things
[1:04:19] about conservatives and lean
[1:04:20] left. That’s fine. So I’m just asking you guys to
[1:04:28] the board to consider it
[1:04:29] again. Just override with the
[1:04:29] library board said. And I
[1:04:32] think it’s a good thing for
[1:04:32] the whole community. Really
[1:04:35] when you honor somebody, even
[1:04:38] if they disagree with you or
[1:04:38] you disagree with them, it
[1:04:39] doesn’t make sense. And why
[1:04:42] couldn’t the majority of
[1:04:42] people in this county be
[1:04:43] heard? And I think Like John
[1:04:48] just said, you know, most
[1:04:49] people here are conservatives
[1:04:49] in this county. And a lot
[1:04:53] Christians and they would like
[1:04:54] to see something like this.
[1:04:55] And so what I small thing in
[1:04:58] the scheme of things compared
[1:04:59] to some of the other things
[1:04:59] we’re facing. But I think it’s
[1:05:02] important encouraging you guys
[1:05:03] to do that. Thank you very
[1:05:06] much. Thank you.
[1:05:08] >> Number 6, Mr. Pap. I think
[1:05:09] she needs She needs the okay.
[1:05:12] Number 6. Mr. Brown, are you
[1:05:19] limping?
[1:05:19] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:05:23] >> That’s unlike tripping. And
[1:05:24] a dog called proof. State.
[1:05:27] Your name and where you’re
[1:05:28] from. My name is Ray Brown. I
[1:05:29] live in Houma Sasser. Thank
[1:05:31] you, commissioners for being
[1:05:33] here. The reason I’m here is
[1:05:35] because I do want to talk
[1:05:36] about the library and I
[1:05:40] believe that their gross
[1:05:41] mismanagement of their money
[1:05:45] as we were talking last a
[1:05:47] library board. They were
[1:05:48] talking about the to
[1:05:49] approximate about 6 million
[1:05:51] dollars for the library.
[1:05:53] budget, which means that 1.2
[1:05:57] million dollars per a lot
[1:06:01] money for libraries as what
[1:06:03] the library board is asking
[1:06:05] for. And so when I think about
[1:06:08] that, that seems like awful
[1:06:09] lot of money that is be an MS
[1:06:13] manage some good. But we have
[1:06:17] no idea how it’s being
[1:06:18] mismanaged. 1.2 million
[1:06:22] dollars of our tax payer money
[1:06:24] is going to a library board
[1:06:27] our library where the board
[1:06:29] it’s so slanted in one
[1:06:31] direction that I feel like
[1:06:33] maybe what we should do is
[1:06:35] look to see how our money is
[1:06:38] being spent, where it’s being
[1:06:39] spent, how it’s being spent
[1:06:40] and what on is it being spent
[1:06:43] on there should be type I know
[1:06:46] you come out. The budget says,
[1:06:48] hey, we need But what we
[1:06:50] didn’t really need that money
[1:06:51] for. Because our taxes. We
[1:06:57] know that this thing’s going
[1:06:58] to pass for for property
[1:07:01] taxes. Y’all are going to need
[1:07:03] to replenish that money. But I
[1:07:06] would tell you where it comes
[1:07:06] to the library. I believe that library board. And
[1:07:13] library manager. It is not
[1:07:17] going to do what you all love
[1:07:18] directed them to do. So. I ask
[1:07:21] you to. How do we look into
[1:07:26] what are we? What are they
[1:07:27] spending our money on? Where’s
[1:07:28] it? At? You know, like a set
[1:07:33] when you look at it, you know,
[1:07:35] a 6 billion dollars that
[1:07:36] doesn’t sound so bad. But when
[1:07:38] you look at it, that is 5
[1:07:39] libraries. What’s 1.0? 2
[1:07:44] million dollars per library
[1:07:44] going to? Where’s the money?
[1:07:47] Follow the because citizens
[1:07:49] like myself, we want to know
[1:07:53] and if they’re going to, you
[1:07:54] know, basically their nose up
[1:07:56] well. We want to know where
[1:07:59] that money is being spent and
[1:08:01] I’d like to know how to find
[1:08:02] that information out. Thank
[1:08:04] you all so much for being
[1:08:05] here. I really appreciate it.
[1:08:09] Only in America. Do we feel
[1:08:10] like we can come in front of a
[1:08:10] board? And ask you all to
[1:08:13] give? Your citizens a vote.
[1:08:20] And be able to express our
[1:08:22] concern. Thank you all for
[1:08:23] being here. Appreciate it.
[1:08:26] Thank you. And our budget is
[1:08:30] public an online just find the
[1:08:31] at the table of contents at
[1:08:32] the beginning. That says
[1:08:33] library services.
[1:08:34] >> And that will show you
[1:08:34] where all the money’s being
[1:08:35] spent. Okay. Number 7.
[1:08:51] >> Good afternoon.
[1:08:52] Commissioners back again for
[1:08:53] the 3rd time to speak to you
[1:08:56] about surveillance in this
[1:08:59] county Stephen Anderson. And
[1:09:00] I’m a business owner and
[1:09:01] resident, was scary? I’m here
[1:09:04] tonight to praise the recent
[1:09:06] suspension of the sheriff’s
[1:09:07] office automated license Plate
[1:09:08] reader program, but also tears
[1:09:09] as 4 to finish the job.
[1:09:13] Governor DeSantis recently
[1:09:13] revoked say permits for these
[1:09:15] interests are devices
[1:09:16] explicitly warning that we
[1:09:17] must reject a quote, digital,
[1:09:20] surveillance state, unquote.
[1:09:24] The sheriff is turned off his
[1:09:25] department’s cameras. A
[1:09:25] massive legal loophole remains
[1:09:26] rare in Citrus County. Private
[1:09:30] entities. Retail corporations
[1:09:30] like Lowe’s and Inverness and
[1:09:31] private developments are still
[1:09:34] operating independent license
[1:09:35] plate readers that capture
[1:09:35] data and everyday citizens.
[1:09:38] Furthermore, because the
[1:09:39] governor’s mandate only
[1:09:40] applies to state highway
[1:09:43] rights of way. Our local
[1:09:43] county on roads remain
[1:09:44] entirely and protected. A
[1:09:48] citizen’s right to privacy
[1:09:49] should not depend on which
[1:09:49] road drive down or which
[1:09:50] parking lot they enter. If
[1:09:52] private companies can continue
[1:09:53] to harvest or and profit off
[1:09:56] of our travel patterns, we
[1:09:57] have not truly ended mass
[1:09:58] surveillance. We have just
[1:09:59] outsourced it. Or just
[1:10:03] commission to take immediate
[1:10:03] legislative action. We need a
[1:10:04] comprehensive county ordinance
[1:10:07] that prohibits the
[1:10:09] installation of automated
[1:10:09] license plate readers on all
[1:10:11] county maintain roads right
[1:10:11] towards utility poles and
[1:10:14] place. Strict limits on
[1:10:14] private commercial
[1:10:15] surveillance groups within our
[1:10:17] county. Let’s protect our
[1:10:19] citizens 70 and keep Citrus
[1:10:20] County free from continues.
[1:10:20] Tracking. So the first time
[1:10:24] about or tension, you pass a
[1:10:25] book on to the sheriff
[1:10:29] claiming I quote, You didn’t
[1:10:29] have control of where the
[1:10:30] cameras are. And the second
[1:10:32] time I spoke, one of the
[1:10:34] unclaimed, quote, need to look
[1:10:35] into it more that you didn’t
[1:10:36] know enough about it. Tulane
[1:10:37] which way or the other. Well,
[1:10:40] I personally had presented you
[1:10:42] with several facts about the
[1:10:43] technology about how it’s used
[1:10:46] and misused and that was
[1:10:47] direct invasion of your
[1:10:47] constituents. Privacy. As of
[1:10:51] other citizens of Citrus
[1:10:52] County Snow that you’ve heard
[1:10:53] from concerned citizens, the
[1:10:54] sheriff and the governor of
[1:10:54] Florida. Well, you have the
[1:10:58] county attorney draft an
[1:10:58] ordinance banning this
[1:10:59] technology. We use the power
[1:11:00] given to you to do what your
[1:11:03] constituents are asking of.
[1:11:04] You or if another reason to
[1:11:05] brush it off. off our right to
[1:11:08] freely travel. Number 8. Good
[1:11:23] afternoon. My name is Nathan
[1:11:33] and I live in the Cantu. This
[1:11:36] is also my 3rd time speaking
[1:11:38] about Citrus County’s Motorola
[1:11:39] vigilant license plate system.
[1:11:42] >> At the last meeting asked
[1:11:43] with this board found after
[1:11:44] chair, but again she would
[1:11:45] look into the cameras. The
[1:11:47] public is still not seen the
[1:11:48] contract. The retention
[1:11:50] settings, the sharing
[1:11:51] configuration or the audit
[1:11:52] logs. The situation in Florida
[1:11:55] has recently changed. As
[1:11:59] Stephen Miskin before me, the
[1:12:01] Florida Department of
[1:12:02] Transportation has revoked
[1:12:03] license plate reader permits
[1:12:04] on state roadways and ordered
[1:12:06] those cameras removed. On
[1:12:10] August 31st. Putnam County
[1:12:11] Sheriff discontinued his own
[1:12:14] program saying the technology
[1:12:15] is advancing faster than the
[1:12:15] laws that govern it. In Pasco
[1:12:19] County. The sheriff is ending
[1:12:22] the county roadway agreement
[1:12:23] after the board withdrew
[1:12:23] support. That last example is
[1:12:26] the one that applies here. The
[1:12:30] state’s action on state roads
[1:12:31] does not remove the cameras on
[1:12:32] Citrus County roads. That
[1:12:33] decision is still yours. The
[1:12:37] systems are not just hot list.
[1:12:40] Alarms Motorola’s on materials
[1:12:42] describes a searchable vehicle
[1:12:44] location, history and access
[1:12:45] to detections beyond a single
[1:12:48] agencies. Cameras that is
[1:12:49] continuous tracking of
[1:12:51] ordinary people not only
[1:12:52] wanted plates. No one is
[1:12:55] saying that crime solving does
[1:12:56] not matter. But usefulness is
[1:12:59] not the only test for how much
[1:12:59] surveillance power government
[1:13:02] keeps. If it were, there would
[1:13:02] be no limits at all. This
[1:13:05] board cannot run the sheriff’s
[1:13:07] office. You can decide what is
[1:13:09] allowed on county roadways and
[1:13:12] whether public money keeps
[1:13:12] paying for this. I’m asking
[1:13:15] this board for 3 things. First
[1:13:17] to publish the Motorola
[1:13:19] contract. It’s retention
[1:13:22] settings. Its data sharing
[1:13:22] configuration and its audit
[1:13:25] records. Second to require
[1:13:27] board approval before any
[1:13:29] automatic license plate
[1:13:30] readers are placed on county
[1:13:32] owned property. Our county
[1:13:32] maintained rights of way. So
[1:13:34] the public has a chance to
[1:13:35] oppose each one. Used that
[1:13:39] authority and your budgetary
[1:13:41] authority to end this program
[1:13:43] and calling the sheriff to
[1:13:44] remove the cameras that are
[1:13:44] already up. Other Florida
[1:13:47] officials are already
[1:13:49] reversing course. So should
[1:13:50] not leave county roads behind.
[1:13:52] What did you find and will
[1:13:54] this board act? Thank you.
[1:13:57] >> Number 9.
[1:14:09] >> Good afternoon. Jennifer
[1:14:11] Grogan, Citrus County and I
[1:14:14] was just here and sitting
[1:14:18] behind me was Commissioner
[1:14:19] Tomato. I say that right
[1:14:20] D’Amato to me. His pride. Was
[1:14:22] sitting behind me and I
[1:14:25] listened to her whimper as
[1:14:27] each one of you spoke about
[1:14:29] her husband. I never met I
[1:14:30] don’t know but I appreciate
[1:14:34] that you guys have chosen to
[1:14:37] name a building after him.
[1:14:38] He’s a local guy and his
[1:14:42] bride. Really appreciate it.
[1:14:47] I’ve been asking this about
[1:14:47] Mr. Charlie Kirk, and I’m sure
[1:14:50] his bride and his children
[1:14:51] would appreciate it. Also. If
[1:14:54] you would do something for
[1:14:54] him. He has left a legacy
[1:14:57] behind he taught our children.
[1:15:05] He’s taught her college
[1:15:06] children and that’s where we
[1:15:06] lose a lot of our children is
[1:15:09] college get away from family
[1:15:11] values. They get away from
[1:15:12] what you taught him and they
[1:15:13] go try their own thing. And
[1:15:16] Charlie Kirk was in the
[1:15:18] colleges, teaching values,
[1:15:19] telling them not to steer to
[1:15:21] the left or to the right to
[1:15:22] keep moving forward and do the
[1:15:27] right thing and he may be
[1:15:28] helped with the president.
[1:15:28] shock election. That a lot of
[1:15:31] things, a lot of good. I
[1:15:34] think. His children and his
[1:15:38] bride deserve that respect
[1:15:41] that you can do it locally.
[1:15:42] Can you do it nationally? Are
[1:15:44] you able? William? Because
[1:15:50] it’s a little controversial.
[1:15:54] You would please so many. The
[1:15:56] handful that you would of
[1:15:58] cent. Is the difference. And
[1:16:05] he was a good man and his
[1:16:06] pride and his children deserve
[1:16:06] what you just gave.
[1:16:08] Commissioner D models. Thank
[1:16:11] you.
[1:16:13] >> Number 10. Good afternoon.
[1:16:23] >> name is ball. All my adult
[1:16:27] life of Citrus County. I was
[1:16:30] also like to see some for
[1:16:34] minor in Charlie Kirk. I don’t
[1:16:34] see why. There’s reluctance to
[1:16:38] do that. I’m not even going to the library. Issue.
[1:16:45] It seems like it’s it’s
[1:16:48] terrible. I go in library
[1:16:49] occasionally you can feel it
[1:16:54] in the air, though. Leftward
[1:16:55] slant of. The whole Why can’t
[1:17:03] we honor Charlie Kirk? I like
[1:17:04] to see a road named after him
[1:17:05] library display fine. vast
[1:17:13] majority Citrus County is
[1:17:15] conservative and there’s a
[1:17:18] strong Christian element here
[1:17:19] stronger than most of Florida.
[1:17:21] I think into what I first came
[1:17:22] here. It was very strong. I
[1:17:32] don’t I just I just don’t
[1:17:33] understand why this hasn’t
[1:17:34] been done about Mister LeBron.
[1:17:35] All is said has been done so
[1:17:37] many other place in Florida.
[1:17:37] Why can’t we do something
[1:17:38] here? Rename look and to
[1:17:42] highway after him make a
[1:17:44] strong statement. There’s lots
[1:17:45] of issues coming. Lee County
[1:17:47] is. Approving the there County
[1:17:52] Commission, I guess, is
[1:17:52] approving a thanks. A lot of
[1:17:58] land for a mosque. I hope we
[1:17:59] don’t see But we are good
[1:18:00] going to be faced with that
[1:18:01] issue here. Our countries
[1:18:04] being turned. Communist in
[1:18:07] Muslim. And Christians are
[1:18:10] being left on the wayside. not
[1:18:13] going well. Goods for a good
[1:18:18] starting point would be
[1:18:18] honoring Charlie. I hope
[1:18:21] you’ll consider that. Please.
[1:18:23] Thank Thank you.
[1:18:25] >> Number 11. Mr. Bryant and
[1:18:37] you’re on your T-shirt today.
[1:18:39] I want to you know, you know,
[1:18:41] not just the braces. So just
[1:18:41] gonna go with it.
[1:18:42] >> So 5 minutes for such a
[1:18:45] cider. Kris Bryant against
[1:18:47] couple things for us today at
[1:18:47] 3 different Number one,
[1:18:51] transparency, public records
[1:18:53] request for emails in
[1:18:55] particular take forever.
[1:18:57] there’s Pastor Potter County
[1:18:58] does a policy to where all of
[1:18:59] the commissioner emails are
[1:19:00] posted publicly.
[1:19:01] >> I just looked at it today.
[1:19:03] The e-mails that were sent
[1:19:03] today are on the portal. You
[1:19:04] can be there with pretty much
[1:19:04] as they come in. Someone asked
[1:19:07] you guys to do more
[1:19:09] transparent process for public
[1:19:10] records for the most
[1:19:10] meticulous on, though the
[1:19:11] emails are public record. We
[1:19:13] should have to ask for the
[1:19:15] necessarily. So yes, can
[1:19:17] create a process to make it
[1:19:18] more transparent, easier for
[1:19:19] people to find emails. And
[1:19:20] that would also reduce the
[1:19:21] burden on staff to have to
[1:19:22] provide all these e-mails the
[1:19:23] research and all those things.
[1:19:25] So asking for us to look into
[1:19:27] that option for an online
[1:19:28] portal of sorts for email
[1:19:29] searches going to public
[1:19:34] records. I sent each of you
[1:19:34] has records request on July
[1:19:35] 15th. 55 days ago, part of
[1:19:39] that request was social media
[1:19:39] stuff. Part of that request
[1:19:40] was phone logs and things like
[1:19:42] that to date. One person fill
[1:19:45] that completely today, 2
[1:19:46] people told me they were
[1:19:47] working on their call, a
[1:19:49] portion of That was 2 to 3
[1:19:50] weeks ago and haven’t heard
[1:19:51] updates on that. One person
[1:19:54] has an even get update
[1:19:56] anything and then the other
[1:19:58] person kind of give me a
[1:20:00] reason why they couldn’t
[1:20:01] fulfill its, which isn’t based
[1:20:02] on state law. and you guys, a
[1:20:06] state law on these are not
[1:20:08] options. don’t have an option
[1:20:09] to ignore the rest request.
[1:20:11] You have to fill the request.
[1:20:12] the issue that you guys have
[1:20:13] here is you guys use your
[1:20:13] personal stuff and vices.
[1:20:14] Therefore, you guys are the
[1:20:15] custody of those records. The
[1:20:17] reason I ask you for them is
[1:20:18] the county doesn’t access to
[1:20:19] this. So I asked you guys as
[1:20:21] custody records for those and
[1:20:22] today we haven’t gotten those
[1:20:26] further on July. 21st the said
[1:20:27] the same request to the county
[1:20:29] administrator. I got those
[1:20:31] requesting so they fill them
[1:20:33] today. So you’re on employee
[1:20:33] has been you guys to that
[1:20:34] nice. And week afterwards so
[1:20:35] they Mr. Howard, for doing
[1:20:37] that they want to talk about I
[1:20:39] think we need to revisit the
[1:20:42] policy of staff and the
[1:20:43] commissioner communications
[1:20:44] and things like that.
[1:20:47] Recently. I found that
[1:20:47] commissioners are using staff
[1:20:49] too compiled data. One of the
[1:20:53] request providing a list of
[1:20:54] all the voted for any
[1:20:56] development projects. I can’t
[1:20:58] think of any county reason
[1:20:59] that somebody would be that
[1:21:00] information. Staff’s been time
[1:21:01] to compile that list and then
[1:21:02] provide that list of that
[1:21:04] person. Somebody else recently
[1:21:06] has been using staff to create
[1:21:08] a presentation that they’re
[1:21:09] going separately. That’s not a
[1:21:11] county presentation and
[1:21:11] they’re using staff time and
[1:21:12] resources to compile the
[1:21:13] presentation for them and
[1:21:14] they’re going to staff to get
[1:21:16] that done. So again, a
[1:21:19] question why you guys are able
[1:21:20] to do that. Why you guys are
[1:21:21] using staff resources for your
[1:21:24] personal presentations or
[1:21:26] personal information. The
[1:21:26] cheese for whatever reason and
[1:21:30] then why the ministrations
[1:21:30] line, you guys at that access
[1:21:32] because the administrative
[1:21:33] regulation says that you guys
[1:21:33] have to go the administrative
[1:21:35] administrator than determines
[1:21:37] whether it’s a valid request
[1:21:37] that sends out to staff and
[1:21:40] not for us to go individually
[1:21:41] to the staff member of your
[1:21:41] choice to get that done. So
[1:21:43] this couple things I want you
[1:21:44] think about Number 12.
[1:21:51] >> So anyone else that would
[1:21:52] like to speak at open to the
[1:21:53] public. Okay. With that will
[1:21:57] close the open to the public
[1:22:00] If you have anything.
[1:22:02] Commissioner Kerik.
[1:22:03] >> First of all, the library,
[1:22:07] in my opinion. And as I have
[1:22:10] stated several occasions. Any
[1:22:14] displays in the library should
[1:22:17] be about our citizens. Our
[1:22:19] students, our citizens, our
[1:22:21] upcoming events. And that’s
[1:22:25] what we should be promoting in
[1:22:26] our library, education about
[1:22:27] what we as Citrus County
[1:22:29] people are doing. It’s nice
[1:22:32] that you want to bring
[1:22:33] somebody else in here and have
[1:22:38] somebody else that’s fine.
[1:22:40] Other do what they want their
[1:22:40] other counties. They’re not
[1:22:41] Citrus County. I don’t like
[1:22:45] the fact that, you know,
[1:22:45] everybody comes up and says,
[1:22:46] well, I’m a conservative. A
[1:22:48] conservative can be. Anything
[1:22:50] it wants to be. At least
[1:22:53] that’s what I’m finding out.
[1:22:56] You can be a financial
[1:22:57] conservative. You can be
[1:22:59] whatever conservative. It’s
[1:23:01] not. To me. I’m a
[1:23:05] conservative. But I do have
[1:23:08] some of the tendencies and
[1:23:09] it’s a good thing. Because
[1:23:12] people need to be able to look
[1:23:14] at a situation and judge it on
[1:23:16] its merit. And that’s what I
[1:23:20] try and do. And I have told
[1:23:22] the library board at least
[1:23:25] twice if not 3 times the
[1:23:30] library displays should be
[1:23:31] about our citizens works. Our
[1:23:35] kids staff are kids displays
[1:23:36] are schools step what’s going
[1:23:38] on in our county? And the
[1:23:43] different groups that we have
[1:23:43] in our get we have enough
[1:23:44] troops in our county. doing
[1:23:45] things. You know, save our
[1:23:48] water should be out in our
[1:23:50] thing. Okay. We should have
[1:23:51] too far out there. We anything
[1:23:54] and everything has to do with
[1:23:55] our county. Another thing that
[1:23:59] I was listening to. Was the
[1:24:03] fact that using staff or
[1:24:07] resources and presentations. I
[1:24:11] don’t know that anybody else,
[1:24:12] but I don’t use the staff or
[1:24:13] resources. Your presentations.
[1:24:15] My job is to work with. Mr.
[1:24:18] Howard. And this Lynn and
[1:24:20] those are the 2 staff that eye
[1:24:23] I’m allowed to work unless I
[1:24:25] get special permission and I
[1:24:28] should shouldn’t have to be
[1:24:29] asking our staff for anything.
[1:24:33] I should ask, Mr. Howard, to
[1:24:34] get me whatever information I
[1:24:35] need. And that’s exactly what
[1:24:38] I do. So when I hear that
[1:24:41] you’re finding out that other
[1:24:41] people are using our staff to
[1:24:43] me. That’s wrong. And I try to
[1:24:47] follow the rules. When I first
[1:24:48] started the first year I was
[1:24:48] in Everybody told me when I
[1:24:52] was wrong. Everybody up here
[1:24:56] told me he can’t do it, that
[1:24:57] we can’t do We can’t do it
[1:24:58] that way. You have to follow
[1:24:59] the rules. Well, the rules are
[1:25:03] for everybody in this county.
[1:25:05] Even other 4 myself. So the
[1:25:09] thing is. I try to do things
[1:25:13] that are right now when it
[1:25:14] comes to cameras for the cars.
[1:25:17] Cameras in. Parking lot are so
[1:25:21] that there isn’t stealing and
[1:25:23] if it is stealing, it helps
[1:25:24] the police. And that’s all
[1:25:28] it’s for. And I cannot see
[1:25:30] asking any this to take down
[1:25:31] cameras. Because I want to be
[1:25:34] safe. If I am out at night and
[1:25:38] I get somebody comes over and
[1:25:39] tries to rob me tries to do
[1:25:41] something to me. I wanted to
[1:25:44] be on camera if possible. Now
[1:25:49] I’m glad you have your ideas
[1:25:51] about no cameras, no cameras, urge it the last 3
[1:25:55] weeks one to 3 times. You’ve
[1:25:55] been up there. And it’s nice
[1:25:58] that the 2 of you have your
[1:25:59] unit. My biggest question why
[1:26:01] are you so worried are so
[1:26:03] afraid of these cameras? Is it
[1:26:05] because you’re maybe going to
[1:26:07] do something or your friends
[1:26:08] are doing something. Okay. So my question is 2 weeks from
[1:26:13] now when you come back or if
[1:26:13] you stay for them to me, could
[1:26:15] you answer that question when
[1:26:16] you come back? I’d appreciate
[1:26:17] that. I am very proud of you.
[1:26:25] It takes a lot when I know how
[1:26:27] much you hate dogs to go up to
[1:26:32] job because because I see you
[1:26:34] it takes a lot and I’m very
[1:26:35] proud of and thank you very
[1:26:36] much helping another citizen
[1:26:38] in our county. That’s what we
[1:26:41] need citizens help each other.
[1:26:43] And that’s what cities
[1:26:45] counties about citizens
[1:26:45] helping each other. So that’s
[1:26:48] all I have to say for this
[1:26:49] time.
[1:26:51] >> Thank Notes. Commissioner
[1:26:54] Davis.
[1:26:57] >> Mr. Howard. You saw the
[1:27:01] video. And you asked where it
[1:27:04] came from. Because I had
[1:27:09] already gone to you and ask
[1:27:09] for miles for video background
[1:27:12] right? And you said, did you
[1:27:12] do this? And I said, I did. I
[1:27:14] wrote it. I time stamped it. I
[1:27:18] created a very specific list
[1:27:19] of video clips to Poland,
[1:27:21] stitched together. I did a
[1:27:23] vast portion of the work that
[1:27:24] I not. Yes. And you are fully
[1:27:30] aware of the request and you
[1:27:32] blessed to correct correct
[1:27:33] cricket. The thing we hear
[1:27:37] most about. It’s how angry we
[1:27:40] are about growth. And the need
[1:27:43] to preserve land. Only a
[1:27:49] certain super blogger could
[1:27:49] find a way to put on that
[1:27:52] effort to conserve land. So he
[1:27:57] cast aspersions on Facebook. I
[1:27:58] don’t go on Facebook anymore,
[1:27:59] but I was made aware of it
[1:28:02] that she wondering if the
[1:28:03] county taxpayers paid for my
[1:28:04] trip to Denver. You who has
[1:28:08] been all the way down the
[1:28:09] rabbit hole of every single
[1:28:11] cone ordinance. We have knows
[1:28:12] doggone good and well that I
[1:28:14] would have had to ask
[1:28:16] permission from my colleagues
[1:28:18] to get tax dollars to pay for
[1:28:18] the trip to Denver. Did I know
[1:28:21] I didn’t because I paid for it
[1:28:22] myself. This is a huge honor
[1:28:26] for Citrus County to be asked
[1:28:28] to present at the National
[1:28:30] Conference on Land
[1:28:31] Conservation. It’s huge. And
[1:28:35] we are we celebrating a no.
[1:28:36] We’re attacking that. I find
[1:28:39] that frankly. Ludacris and
[1:28:42] Rick reprehensible. What is it
[1:28:46] going to give us what is
[1:28:48] what’s in it for us? Number
[1:28:51] one and then attend the
[1:28:53] conference on going to find
[1:28:54] out more about land
[1:28:55] conservation and how to get
[1:28:56] this truly good going in.
[1:28:56] Citrus County. Again on my my
[1:29:00] own time. ’09. We are going to
[1:29:06] present to we’re going to be a
[1:29:08] converse. I want to say
[1:29:08] there’s about 1500 people
[1:29:11] there. We are presenting I was
[1:29:11] told to between 50 and 75
[1:29:14] people. We That’s an
[1:29:17] opportunity for us to get out
[1:29:18] in front of people as Citrus
[1:29:20] County for both economic
[1:29:20] development and tourism
[1:29:23] attraction purposes. I also
[1:29:25] thought this video that miles
[1:29:28] so brilliantly stitched
[1:29:29] together, the clips for. I can
[1:29:33] do a different voice over and
[1:29:35] use that digs in repurpose
[1:29:36] that video and multiple
[1:29:37] different ways to benefits
[1:29:38] this county, including land
[1:29:42] cotman most particularly land
[1:29:44] conservation. But you know
[1:29:46] what? It could also be done as
[1:29:46] a recruitment tool because
[1:29:47] businesses want to move here.
[1:29:48] If they think employees want
[1:29:49] to live here. And you know
[1:29:50] what? I actually I’m not a
[1:29:52] crier. I was leak in. Tears
[1:29:57] was are not at the end of that
[1:29:59] video. I was I said I am so
[1:30:00] d*** proud to be from this
[1:30:01] county. And then certain
[1:30:05] people make me wonder that
[1:30:06] bout that. Anyone
[1:30:17] >> Move on one.
[1:30:25] >> Motion to approve item E
[1:30:26] through second.
[1:30:29] >> Motion by second by
[1:30:31] Commissioner Kerik. Any public
[1:30:32] comment. Any further board
[1:30:36] discussion, all those in
[1:30:39] favor. Aye, any oppose mission
[1:30:40] carries 5, 0, E 2 motion to
[1:30:41] approve to second.
[1:30:44] >> Motion by Commissioner
[1:30:44] Davis second by Commissioner
[1:30:45] Kerik. Any public comments.
[1:30:55] >> Chicago, Young for this.
[1:30:59] I’m a little confused about
[1:31:01] this one. The biggest thing
[1:31:04] missing from this shortage end
[1:31:05] this description is the reason
[1:31:08] why migration is necessary for
[1:31:09] 12,000. study to doing the
[1:31:15] $12,500 like a little bit more
[1:31:17] information on We are in 2
[1:31:19] administrative services
[1:31:20] agreement with Florida Blue
[1:31:22] for self-funded Health Plan.
[1:31:22] Administration.
[1:31:25] >> Okay. Sorry. Okay. Thank
[1:31:27] you. You’re welcome. Anyone
[1:31:33] Any further board discussion?
[1:31:34] me. Commissioner base.
[1:31:40] >> Actually, this is all about
[1:31:41] you to the 3 for Andy I want
[1:31:44] to start out by saying I want
[1:31:45] to be very clear. That’s not
[1:31:47] about taking health insurance
[1:31:49] away from our employees are
[1:31:50] reducing the quality of their
[1:31:52] benefits. But we have an
[1:31:53] obligation to provide a
[1:31:55] competitive the big bid
[1:31:56] package and take care of our
[1:31:57] employees. We are self-insured
[1:32:00] and ultimately every dollar of
[1:32:02] claims as our dollars. So in
[1:32:04] 2018 car insurance costs was
[1:32:05] approximately 3.7, 5 million.
[1:32:10] In your 26. The budget is
[1:32:10] approximately 12 Million.
[1:32:12] That’s 3 times more than it
[1:32:13] was 8 years ago. And 26 alone
[1:32:17] it representative 21%
[1:32:18] increase. And today we’re
[1:32:19] asking for another 10%
[1:32:19] increase. At some point,
[1:32:23] simply increasing the premium
[1:32:24] every year is not a cost
[1:32:27] management strategy. We
[1:32:29] established an employee clinic
[1:32:30] in 2013, specifically in an
[1:32:34] effort to reduce health costs.
[1:32:36] Yet when we renew that
[1:32:37] contract, I did not see it
[1:32:40] independently verified and also showing that
[1:32:41] clinic cost all in and what it
[1:32:45] actually saves the plan. And I
[1:32:45] still want to see that. Which
[1:32:48] I brought up and it was agreed
[1:32:49] to renew it. I also want to
[1:32:53] understand why we’re entering
[1:32:55] into another long-term
[1:32:56] relations relationship with
[1:32:57] Florida blue without seen a
[1:33:00] competitive market analysis.
[1:33:02] If we haven’t been this
[1:33:02] business, why not? And
[1:33:05] finally, I think we need to
[1:33:06] rethink the entire philosophy
[1:33:08] of this plan. I am not
[1:33:09] suggesting that we penalize
[1:33:11] someone because they have
[1:33:12] cancer, diabetes, high blood
[1:33:13] pressure or any other medical
[1:33:14] condition. But I do not
[1:33:17] believe there should be
[1:33:18] responsibility attached to
[1:33:19] receiving a very substantial
[1:33:19] tax funded. Health benefit. We
[1:33:23] should investigate the legally
[1:33:25] compliant wellness and help
[1:33:25] engagement program where
[1:33:27] employees who participate in
[1:33:30] preventive and management of
[1:33:31] their health and received the
[1:33:33] county contribution while
[1:33:34] employees who choose not to
[1:33:35] participate, contribute more
[1:33:36] to their coverage. There are a
[1:33:39] couple things I noticed in
[1:33:42] that we’re raising our limit
[1:33:43] from 200,000 to 300,000. So I
[1:33:48] would like to know what that
[1:33:49] means to the county. On our
[1:33:54] stop loss, what that’s going
[1:33:54] to cost us. The 26 27 premium
[1:34:00] sumption. There’s a 10% base
[1:34:02] increase. Are projected
[1:34:07] disbursements are 16.5, 6,
[1:34:10] 2 Million. The 27 Health
[1:34:12] Insurance Fund. A 17.3, 3
[1:34:12] million. The clinic retried on
[1:34:16] a valuation. There’s been
[1:34:18] nothing that clinic is costing
[1:34:19] us. 1.4, 5 million. So I have
[1:34:22] a lot of questions about this
[1:34:27] and I just don’t think that
[1:34:28] this for me, this isn’t
[1:34:29] something that we should just
[1:34:29] automatically approve. Anyone
[1:34:33] Yeah. Commissioner there. When
[1:34:39] I read this, I I first came on
[1:34:41] board. I wanted to know why we
[1:34:41] weren’t shelf and and they
[1:34:42] should just work.
[1:34:44] >> And this contract is for 2
[1:34:45] years. That gives 2 years. For
[1:34:49] us to find better, less
[1:34:53] expensive plan. Because in a
[1:34:57] year’s time will not be able
[1:34:57] to do it. It takes time to get
[1:35:01] out there and look and friends
[1:35:02] what we need. Because I agree
[1:35:04] this is expensive. But I also
[1:35:08] note as a as a retiree. My
[1:35:12] Blue and Blue Shield. Went
[1:35:15] from 176 2, 2, 90 a month. And
[1:35:19] that’s my personal one. OK?
[1:35:23] And that’s, you that’s me
[1:35:23] paying my own because I don’t
[1:35:25] go. I don’t use the county.
[1:35:28] But I do know that it will
[1:35:30] take least over year. For us
[1:35:33] to get out there and find
[1:35:37] something less expensive that
[1:35:38] covers more. And we need to
[1:35:40] have the time to do it. And
[1:35:43] that’s that’s why I’m going
[1:35:45] prove this and the other for
[1:35:46] the go along with it because
[1:35:49] that we need the time to get.
[1:35:52] To where we want to be. And I
[1:35:56] know all the companies in the
[1:35:58] United States have all of that
[1:35:59] increases increases increases
[1:36:01] health care is just
[1:36:04] skyrocketing. It’s not going
[1:36:05] down no matter where you live.
[1:36:11] Westlake for deductibles and
[1:36:12] gotten really ridiculous. We
[1:36:15] offer our employees a good
[1:36:15] plan. And I’m proud of what we
[1:36:18] are from them. But you’re
[1:36:20] right. It is too expensive.
[1:36:22] But at this point, it is a
[1:36:25] little too late in the game
[1:36:27] not to approve this. And
[1:36:30] because I don’t think we’d be
[1:36:30] able to get a decent plan by
[1:36:33] October. The first. If
[1:36:41] >> You know, just chime My
[1:36:42] thoughts on this commissioner
[1:36:45] base. Thank some very
[1:36:48] substantive information to the
[1:36:50] conversation over the last few
[1:36:53] board meetings regarding this
[1:36:58] specific subject when we were
[1:36:59] dealing with extending the
[1:37:00] contractor renewing the
[1:37:01] contract with the clinic live.
[1:37:05] The discussion at that time
[1:37:05] was that we have a 90 day out,
[1:37:08] even with the renewal to give
[1:37:14] the county some time consider
[1:37:16] whether or not continued
[1:37:16] operation of that clinic was
[1:37:19] in our best interest
[1:37:20] financially. And so I think
[1:37:22] that does need to be looked at
[1:37:24] delivery of health primary
[1:37:27] care in particular has changed
[1:37:31] dramatically with the advent
[1:37:32] of tele medicine I mean,
[1:37:37] that’s that’s no, no surprise
[1:37:40] anybody. I’m sure. But used to
[1:37:40] be just specialists. No more
[1:37:43] and more folks are using
[1:37:47] telemedicine for their primary
[1:37:48] care. And I’ve got to believe
[1:37:53] subscriptions or or or
[1:37:56] contracts would be much less
[1:37:59] expensive than maintaining a
[1:37:59] brick and mortar clinic for
[1:38:03] the purposes of of treating
[1:38:04] the conditions, the list of
[1:38:06] conditions that we saw
[1:38:07] permanently the, you know, the
[1:38:08] top, the top 2 or 3 conditions
[1:38:12] that are the clinic sees are
[1:38:13] all things that I believe
[1:38:15] could be handled through telemedicine at a much
[1:38:18] lower cost per visit. So
[1:38:21] Commissioner Base, thank you.
[1:38:22] Think that will be an ongoing
[1:38:24] conversation. Ultimately, I
[1:38:26] could save the taxpayers money
[1:38:29] as far as this I do think that
[1:38:31] we should approve this today.
[1:38:34] And as Commissioner Burke
[1:38:34] said, gives us time to go back
[1:38:38] out to look at the market. I
[1:38:40] know that recently happened,
[1:38:42] the Blue Blues last year from
[1:38:42] the conversations you’ve got
[1:38:46] to have, you’ve got to have
[1:38:47] insurance companies that want
[1:38:51] the business. in Citrus County
[1:38:52] we’ve been we’ve been very
[1:38:55] limited in terms of the actual
[1:38:57] insurers that are interested
[1:38:58] being here maybe that changes
[1:39:03] with with the increase in
[1:39:04] commercial activity year.
[1:39:05] Those larger names, maybe they
[1:39:08] bring bring some more interest
[1:39:09] from from different companies.
[1:39:12] I know the sheriff’s office
[1:39:14] changed too United Healthcare.
[1:39:18] I don’t recall exactly how
[1:39:20] long ago that was. But they
[1:39:20] went through the exercise and
[1:39:23] compared rates and ultimately
[1:39:24] end up changing to united. I
[1:39:28] would assume the United has a
[1:39:32] decent provider in the in the
[1:39:34] county for further specialists
[1:39:35] or as big of a provider panel
[1:39:39] as we can have a specialist in
[1:39:42] the county and and then, you
[1:39:43] go back to you know, the
[1:39:48] primary care stuff will be
[1:39:49] handled by telemedicine.
[1:39:51] there’s not one Magic magic
[1:39:54] pill here. attacking it from a
[1:39:56] couple different angles. I
[1:39:59] think that we can that we can
[1:40:00] trim the budget for a health
[1:40:02] care insurance over time.
[1:40:06] Okay. Madam Chair, I have a
[1:40:07] couple This one.
[1:40:10] >> Something else that caught
[1:40:11] my attention in the past,
[1:40:13] there’s been a nicotine
[1:40:15] program in 25 that was
[1:40:19] 120,009, 15. 26. It was 120.
[1:40:22] This year. They’ve eliminated
[1:40:25] that. So that to me would have
[1:40:26] generated savings. The other
[1:40:30] thing that’s very concerning
[1:40:30] when you go through this,
[1:40:32] we’re paying several layers of
[1:40:36] administration. The employee
[1:40:37] benefit an insurance brokerage
[1:40:39] services. 82,000, the Florida
[1:40:40] Blue Medical Insurance
[1:40:41] Administration is 626,000
[1:40:45] Lantern Surgery Administration
[1:40:46] is almost 62,000 clinic
[1:40:48] management fee is 258,000.
[1:40:56] mean, Commissioner Barry has
[1:40:57] been a very watchful person
[1:40:57] over the budget. So I think
[1:41:01] this is something that, again,
[1:41:04] it’s not about taking it away,
[1:41:05] but this is not sustainable.
[1:41:08] Right now. If we were to take
[1:41:10] this and divide it out by
[1:41:14] employee, we’re spending
[1:41:16] $18,500 per employee for
[1:41:17] health care plan. That is not
[1:41:22] sustainable. I’m not trying to
[1:41:23] be ugly year, but this is
[1:41:26] something that we should have
[1:41:26] been looking at. I brought it
[1:41:30] up a couple of different times
[1:41:30] during my time on this board.
[1:41:37] This we’re talking about
[1:41:40] spending over 17 million
[1:41:41] dollars on a health care
[1:41:42] program for employees. This
[1:41:44] has got to get rained in.
[1:41:49] That’s we’re looking into
[1:41:50] that. Anything
[1:41:57] >> All those in favor. Aye.
[1:41:57] Any opposed nay motion carries
[1:41:59] for one E 3. Motion to approve
[1:42:03] 3. Motion by Commissioner
[1:42:08] Kerik second by Commissioner
[1:42:08] Card. Any public comment? Any
[1:42:10] further board discussion? All
[1:42:13] those in favor. Aye, any
[1:42:16] opposed nay motion carries for
[1:42:17] one. Motion to approve before.
[1:42:23] Second motion by Commissioner
[1:42:24] Kerik second by commissioner
[1:42:24] Canard. Any public comment.
[1:42:26] Any further board discussion?
[1:42:29] All those in favor. Aye, any
[1:42:32] opposed motion carries for
[1:42:33] motion to approve the 5.
[1:42:38] Motion by Commissioner Kerik
[1:42:38] second by commissioner Canard.
[1:42:39] Any public comment. Any
[1:42:41] further board discussion, all
[1:42:43] those in favor. Aye, any
[1:42:46] opposed nay. motion carries
[1:42:47] for one. The 6.
[1:42:51] >> Motion approve the 6.
[1:42:55] >> Motion by Commissioner
[1:42:56] Davis second by commissioner
[1:42:57] Canard. Any public comment.
[1:42:59] Any further board discussion,
[1:43:02] all those in favor. Aye, any
[1:43:03] opposed. Motion carries 5, 0,
[1:43:06] The 7.
[1:43:12] >> Motion to approve the 7
[1:43:14] Workshop Budget Workshop date.
[1:43:18] >> Motion by Commissioner
[1:43:20] Kerik second by Commissioner
[1:43:21] Bays. Any public comment. Do
[1:43:23] we need to pick one? Where do
[1:43:24] we need both? I think we
[1:43:26] should both at this point.
[1:43:30] They’re just 3 days apart. It
[1:43:37] wasn’t for different users
[1:43:39] just for calendar purposes and
[1:43:41] defeat.
[1:43:41] >> Did want touch any the
[1:43:42] second one based on the
[1:43:43] county’s only date we can
[1:43:45] where available with the
[1:43:46] commissioner said I.
[1:43:51] >> I told that I’m not
[1:43:54] available until.
[1:43:55] >> 1 o’clock on October 9th.
[1:43:57] So that’s 6 is out for you.
[1:44:02] start Theresa Got it
[1:44:02] backwards. Available all day
[1:44:06] on the 6th and at 1 o’clock on
[1:44:07] the night. the 6th that is.
[1:44:21] >> It gives week because we
[1:44:23] had absolutely nothing as a
[1:44:24] time to be a way that’s not
[1:44:25] all firmed up. I guess I’m I’m
[1:44:29] up in the air. Obviously just
[1:44:30] a reminder to those watching
[1:44:34] here in a home like this isn’t
[1:44:35] for this next budget. Of
[1:44:36] course, I will the here doing
[1:44:38] my duty through. You know,
[1:44:41] through this whole budget
[1:44:43] cycle. This is for years
[1:44:43] later, which I’m obviously not
[1:44:46] to making decisions for those
[1:44:49] years. So we’ll we’ll say.
[1:44:54] >> If the 6th works we
[1:44:55] schedule of them and I think
[1:44:58] the the recall there was
[1:45:01] discussion about it. the idea
[1:45:01] of the time was using that
[1:45:05] first meeting to take a look
[1:45:06] at what is. What is the budget
[1:45:10] look like with the different
[1:45:11] departments will collect
[1:45:13] budget wise. It Amendment 3
[1:45:16] does pass and having a very
[1:45:18] frank discussion about what’s
[1:45:18] on the chopping block and then
[1:45:22] a second workshop to cover.
[1:45:26] You’re too, where the cuts get
[1:45:27] much more significant, much
[1:45:27] deeper cuts that point. But if
[1:45:30] the board feels like that, we
[1:45:32] can cover all of that ground.
[1:45:33] And one meeting, Irwin
[1:45:36] workshop when we do it on the
[1:45:36] sex.
[1:45:39] >> Well, I just want to
[1:45:41] reiterate what I was trying to
[1:45:42] say the last time when said,
[1:45:44] you know, let there be a
[1:45:47] presentation. And then the new
[1:45:47] board make decisions. If it
[1:45:51] even passes, because we’re
[1:45:53] talking about we have a county
[1:45:55] budget team making these
[1:45:56] decisions then for the county
[1:45:58] budget. How does that fit in
[1:46:01] with all the constitutional
[1:46:01] is? How does that fit in with
[1:46:02] the library in the health
[1:46:02] department and the clerk of
[1:46:04] court and the sheriff’s office
[1:46:04] and home. I think that’s going
[1:46:08] to be a much broader
[1:46:10] conversation that’s going to
[1:46:12] take that next year over time.
[1:46:15] >> I don’t know that that’s
[1:46:16] getting worked
[1:46:20] >> And a few hours, know, but
[1:46:22] the much of the constitutional
[1:46:23] budget is decided for us you
[1:46:25] know, largely a formality for
[1:46:30] us to approve much of that
[1:46:31] know we have some discretion.
[1:46:34] Sure, but but I think the
[1:46:37] biggest cuts are things that
[1:46:38] the public’s going to want to
[1:46:39] hear about before they go into
[1:46:40] the voting booth in November
[1:46:43] to make a decision one way or
[1:46:44] the You know, I OK with? Cuts
[1:46:47] here here? And here and having
[1:46:52] budget or department directors
[1:46:54] there for the public to
[1:46:56] interact with, you know, to be
[1:46:56] able to go up and talk to the
[1:46:57] fire chief and say. What does
[1:46:59] this look like? You know, to
[1:47:02] Stevens gives his presentation
[1:47:05] on on what this looks like in
[1:47:09] year one and year 2 and going
[1:47:09] forward. What does that look
[1:47:14] like, Does that mean fewer
[1:47:15] firefighters? Does that mean
[1:47:16] fewer stations to 17? And that
[1:47:19] gives the public an
[1:47:20] opportunity to visit with them
[1:47:20] to visit with public works,
[1:47:23] you know, to visit with the
[1:47:25] library director with their
[1:47:27] kid about parks, all type of
[1:47:28] stuff. And I think I think it
[1:47:31] would be, I think a be a good
[1:47:31] exercise for people to gain
[1:47:35] more information about what
[1:47:36] that looks like going forward.
[1:47:39] So but would be for the 6 and
[1:47:40] looks let’s cover the ground.
[1:47:42] I have a question.
[1:47:45] >> Commissioner, I’d like to
[1:47:46] do the 6th, but residents in
[1:47:48] cover the ground. I’d like to
[1:47:50] do something for in November.
[1:47:52] other words. After the
[1:47:55] election know it do something
[1:47:57] in the 6 for preliminary and
[1:48:00] then say after the election,
[1:48:01] we know one way or the other.
[1:48:04] We bring back what we learned
[1:48:06] in October and see what we can
[1:48:07] do with what we get from. You
[1:48:10] know, the citizens might have
[1:48:10] got some information. We’ll
[1:48:12] get some more information and
[1:48:14] like the more beneficial to
[1:48:16] do. 2 of them would do one in
[1:48:17] October. And then one after
[1:48:18] the election.
[1:48:22] >> Madam Chair, I let’s I’m
[1:48:23] not opposed to that. Let’s
[1:48:24] wait and see for to schedule
[1:48:27] the November one to see if it
[1:48:29] passes. If it does pass, then
[1:48:31] absolutely. I think there will
[1:48:34] be multiple preliminary budget
[1:48:37] workshops other people are
[1:48:38] going to have a great interest
[1:48:42] >> We commission. I think what
[1:48:44] would be helpful during this?
[1:48:48] I believe the attorney general
[1:48:50] just rewrote the language for
[1:48:52] the ballot and they’ve
[1:48:52] strengthened. Some of the
[1:48:55] information on to the extent
[1:48:57] that they’re talking about.
[1:49:02] Eliminating ways for local
[1:49:04] governments to offset the cost
[1:49:06] through in this to use or
[1:49:08] abuse or whatever. They’re
[1:49:09] also good alternative
[1:49:10] resources are, but we know
[1:49:11] that St use our. Based off of
[1:49:17] ad valorem collections. So
[1:49:20] it’s there’s always been. Talk
[1:49:25] about what that means. But if
[1:49:26] you actually if this actually
[1:49:28] passes, I’m not even sure if
[1:49:30] you went to a tu that it would
[1:49:32] pay to have one. So I think if
[1:49:35] you can bring that information
[1:49:38] back, I know that public
[1:49:39] safety is considered. That’s
[1:49:41] where you start with your
[1:49:41] budget. And I think you just
[1:49:50] kind of drilling down into and
[1:49:51] I know that when we look at
[1:49:53] what our frs contributions are
[1:49:54] and what the state change,
[1:49:56] those frs contributions, they
[1:49:57] raise some of those. I think
[1:49:59] we need to kind of Boyle
[1:50:03] killed the young him back, if
[1:50:03] you will, to kind of look
[1:50:06] deeper into what’s driving the
[1:50:08] cost. I think it would be nice
[1:50:11] to see what the inflationary
[1:50:12] guards are for. Like we
[1:50:13] approved fuel today. What does
[1:50:14] that look like? And then what
[1:50:17] are the unfunded state
[1:50:19] mandates that we could
[1:50:19] potentially? Have
[1:50:23] conversations about?
[1:50:33] >> Well, 40 guests you up in
[1:50:35] the air so you all can decide.
[1:50:36] I’m fine. Today, To say like
[1:50:38] Tuesday commissioner can
[1:50:40] entered.
[1:50:41] >> Yeah. Tuesday’s good. Can
[1:50:42] we start a little earlier than
[1:50:42] one? 9 is fun. 9 till noon
[1:50:49] fine. On Tuesday. Started and
[1:50:53] we’ll see how long it takes
[1:50:54] to. this. Make it work.
[1:51:04] >> Looks like someone needs to
[1:51:05] make a motion. Could we have
[1:51:08] invited the constitutional
[1:51:09] officers to participate?
[1:51:14] >> We can do anything. plush
[1:51:14] board all, if you want item, I
[1:51:17] can’t participate. Paul, to
[1:51:19] very best.
[1:51:23] >> And I think that the board
[1:51:25] should decide ahead of time
[1:51:26] for this is published. If this
[1:51:27] is a workshop that will be
[1:51:29] interactive with the public or
[1:51:29] if this is going to be a
[1:51:31] workshop strictly for the
[1:51:33] board and the Constitutional
[1:51:34] is are those whose the budget
[1:51:35] effects? I personally think
[1:51:40] it’s important for the public
[1:51:41] to be there. I think it’s
[1:51:43] educational.
[1:51:44] >> The public would always be
[1:51:45] there. But some workshops
[1:51:45] allow the public to speak in
[1:51:46] something not. I think you
[1:51:48] speak absolutely. Yes.
[1:51:56] >> And the commissioner
[1:51:56] elects. How do we want them
[1:51:59] participate?
[1:52:04] >> Can I think should treat it
[1:52:05] like we always do with respect
[1:52:06] and let them be part of is
[1:52:10] just like I was just like It
[1:52:10] was just like you are just
[1:52:12] like Commissioner Frank. It
[1:52:13] was just like. Commissioner
[1:52:16] Davis was we were not given
[1:52:18] anything special. We were said
[1:52:21] come and see what’s going on.
[1:52:22] If you want
[1:52:23] >> Some did. Some didn’t. And
[1:52:25] if they want to participate, I
[1:52:28] think they should be given
[1:52:28] just exactly the same as
[1:52:29] everybody else. If they’re
[1:52:38] there and they’re part of the
[1:52:39] public than they can speak as
[1:52:40] well. They’ll be making the
[1:52:44] ultimate decisions.
[1:52:49] >> Motion to approve a
[1:52:52] workshop for participation the
[1:52:55] public Tuesday October. The
[1:52:56] 6th starting at 09:00AM.
[1:53:02] chair. Yes, I already had the
[1:53:06] as a by Commissioner Kerik and
[1:53:07] seconded by commissioner
[1:53:10] babies want amend their
[1:53:12] either. Get rid of that or
[1:53:13] amend it to.
[1:53:18] >> time, you second that Okay.
[1:53:18] I’m gonna men mine.
[1:53:21] >> We do it Tuesday. October 6
[1:53:22] from 09:00AM citizens
[1:53:25] participation. Second then my
[1:53:30] Second Commission, amended.
[1:53:34] >> Motion by Commissioner
[1:53:35] Kerik amended second by
[1:53:36] Commissioner Bays. All those
[1:53:37] in favor. Aye. Any opposed
[1:53:39] motion carries 5, 0, As for
[1:53:41] Annika, can’t thrower. Good
[1:53:54] afternoon. Commissioners,
[1:53:55] Veronica camps for special
[1:53:57] projects manager just have a
[1:53:57] few road updates for you
[1:53:58] today. The pavement management
[1:54:02] program, all preservation
[1:54:04] treatments and milling and
[1:54:05] paving projects are still on
[1:54:05] track to finish up this month.
[1:54:08] set us on a good track for our
[1:54:09] next year’s pay to management.
[1:54:13] Apopka construction has been
[1:54:15] completed and would like
[1:54:17] permission to go ahead and
[1:54:17] remove this from our tracking
[1:54:18] list. Same with CR. 39 with
[1:54:23] the trail. That project is
[1:54:25] still closing out. But
[1:54:25] construction has been
[1:54:27] functionally completed. So if
[1:54:28] you drive down that road
[1:54:28] should look all. Our other 2
[1:54:33] Scott projects that are
[1:54:33] currently being tracked our
[1:54:36] Gospel island. The
[1:54:36] solicitation period closes on
[1:54:38] the 15th of this month and the
[1:54:39] next step would be to provide
[1:54:40] recommendation to you all. And
[1:54:44] from a staying. The notice to
[1:54:45] proceed is scheduled to be
[1:54:47] sent out on the 14th of this
[1:54:48] month. So moving right along
[1:54:48] into the next fiscal year.
[1:54:52] Don’t have any other project
[1:54:53] updates unless you have any
[1:54:53] questions. But I would like to
[1:54:55] take this opportunity to let
[1:54:56] you know that we’ve made some
[1:54:57] improvements to the website
[1:54:59] for our strategic Planning
[1:55:00] dashboard. There was some
[1:55:02] discussion about having the
[1:55:03] outstanding commission items
[1:55:04] in one place and the strategic
[1:55:05] planning items in another.
[1:55:07] Now, all of the projects that
[1:55:08] are being tracked by
[1:55:09] administration can be found at
[1:55:10] Citrus County DOT Gov. Slash
[1:55:11] strategy. Thank you any
[1:55:14] questions.
[1:55:18] >> I want to know how I bring
[1:55:18] it forward to get. The road
[1:55:23] resurfacing program payment
[1:55:23] management program changed. I
[1:55:27] have had God knows how many
[1:55:28] complaints and I’ve some of
[1:55:30] them of it are Jamestown.
[1:55:33] Those people getting the vote
[1:55:37] with just little tiny chips on
[1:55:38] it are extremely upset. Some
[1:55:42] of them do have a second going
[1:55:45] of chart and those people are
[1:55:47] happy as can The problem is we
[1:55:52] are not putting down Curry
[1:55:54] servicing pavement plan.
[1:55:57] That’s not pavement with. They
[1:55:57] put down there. Go out there
[1:56:01] on some of the road and you
[1:56:02] see it in his throughout the
[1:56:03] entire county and has
[1:56:04] throughout the entire county
[1:56:05] denied been getting complaints
[1:56:08] and it’s not just one
[1:56:08] complaint from my area.
[1:56:11] Commissioner Finnegan’s area.
[1:56:13] It’s simple. All the areas
[1:56:14] that are getting this lovely
[1:56:16] payment that is not pavement.
[1:56:18] And I’d like to see us come
[1:56:20] back and it over with road.
[1:56:25] People and get to where
[1:56:26] everybody gets pavement. And
[1:56:29] if we don’t get that much
[1:56:31] done, we don’t get that much
[1:56:32] done. What we get is a real
[1:56:35] that’s going to be there for
[1:56:36] least years, if not longer.
[1:56:39] >> Everyone that I’ve called
[1:56:41] them, that’s all been changed,
[1:56:42] that everyone’s getting the
[1:56:43] and over what was the
[1:56:46] >> well, that that’s what I
[1:56:47] wanted to know. Because I’ve
[1:56:49] chip for 8 weeks now. We went
[1:56:52] to my going to ceiling. My
[1:56:55] neighbors added for 6 weeks
[1:56:55] and we get the answer for you.
[1:57:05] >> Coming up, Mr. Hall, the
[1:57:06] pavement answer to all.
[1:57:08] >> Chair Commissioners,
[1:57:09] Carlton all public works. So
[1:57:11] yes, as we’ve started the
[1:57:14] single-layer chip seal on top
[1:57:15] of the road resurfacing, which
[1:57:16] is more of preservation
[1:57:18] treatment on the existing
[1:57:19] asphalt just to keep those
[1:57:20] roads from deteriorating any
[1:57:21] further and to allow them to
[1:57:22] extend the life. We’ve come to
[1:57:26] the decision that a fog seal
[1:57:28] is required as a final
[1:57:30] treatment process over that
[1:57:30] single-layer chip seal. And
[1:57:32] that’s going to be done all
[1:57:33] county roads that have chip.
[1:57:35] Including.
[1:57:39] >> All of them going to be
[1:57:39] done by October first, just
[1:57:40] their will. I look forward to
[1:57:45] and I’m sure the citizens that
[1:57:47] are listening that had been
[1:57:48] making the crossing emails
[1:57:49] look forward to having a paved
[1:57:53] road. Thank you very much.
[1:57:53] Look. Madam Chair hole, there
[1:57:57] whole. I drove down South
[1:58:05] 5.81, a couple of days ago. On
[1:58:06] the other side, the
[1:58:06] Stagecoach.
[1:58:06] >> And there’s some. Pretty
[1:58:08] bad. Patches that you may want
[1:58:13] to have some send somebody out
[1:58:14] to take a look at Just some
[1:58:16] repair work on it. Is it right
[1:58:18] off a stage coach or it’s just
[1:58:21] south of Stagecoach on 5.81
[1:58:24] and it would be in the
[1:58:25] northbound lane.
[1:58:26] >> Got it. Thank you.
[1:58:30] >> Anything else? Okay. Thank
[1:58:33] you very much. Mr. Howard.
[1:58:39] >> Yes, excited to be able to
[1:58:44] CQ to the board confirmation
[1:58:45] of Barbie. names of management
[1:58:45] and budget director Barbara.
[1:58:48] He’s a highly respected public
[1:58:49] sector budget professional.
[1:58:50] More than 35 years of
[1:58:51] progressive experience of
[1:58:53] Citrus County board of county
[1:58:54] commissioners, including more
[1:58:55] than 25 years specializing in
[1:58:57] county budgeting financial
[1:58:59] management since beginning her
[1:59:00] career, such as county in
[1:59:01] 1990, she has advanced 3
[1:59:02] positions of increasing
[1:59:05] responsibility. Currently
[1:59:06] serves the assistant
[1:59:06] management director and Inter
[1:59:09] budget director. It’s never
[1:59:12] too late as we’re able to
[1:59:13] Let’s get a repair,
[1:59:13] unconfirmed reports. He says
[1:59:14] no, it’s exciting to have or
[1:59:20] accept this position the
[1:59:21] purchase doing one great job.
[1:59:22] motion to approve to one by
[1:59:27] Commissioner base second by
[1:59:28] Commissioner Barrick misled.
[1:59:28] Come, come on up here. You
[1:59:30] know, when I saw those,
[1:59:32] ♪
[1:59:36] >> My first thought when I saw
[1:59:39] this, Mike and the world that
[1:59:41] he finally talk after all
[1:59:44] these years took a few
[1:59:47] discussions with law. so I
[1:59:49] worked with Barbara in her
[1:59:52] position when I was still at
[1:59:54] CASA submitting applications
[1:59:56] to her and she just knew
[1:59:56] everything about everything.
[1:59:57] Way back then.
[1:59:58] >> Well, thank you. I I really
[2:00:02] appreciate. I do not like to
[2:00:03] be a peer up front. I like to
[2:00:05] be in the back to but I just
[2:00:06] want to thank everybody, Steve
[2:00:08] Mayor, so and the board for
[2:00:08] all your support.
[2:00:09] >> And that’s it. And I just
[2:00:13] want say, I’m looking forward
[2:00:14] to working with everybody in
[2:00:15] the upcoming year
[2:00:17] >> you think using work? Thank
[2:00:20] you. Yeah. deserved Thank you
[2:00:21] very much.
[2:00:26] >> Thank you. To any public
[2:00:27] comment. Board. All those in
[2:00:31] favor. Any opposed.
[2:00:34] >> Motion carries 5, 0, Thanks
[2:00:34] again, Barbara.
[2:00:41] >> Commissioner.
[2:00:41] >> Tha’s, do you have anything
[2:00:42] I do not Commissioner Davis?
[2:00:43] No, ma’am. Anything further
[2:00:45] commissioner
[2:00:52] >> Just a thank you to the
[2:00:53] board for supporting my agenda
[2:00:54] item one earlier today you
[2:00:57] know, there’s been. I guess
[2:01:01] it’s a surfaced a week or so
[2:01:03] ago. There’s been an awful lot
[2:01:05] of comments. Lot of discussion
[2:01:06] about Commissioner D’Amato.
[2:01:08] He. If you if you knew the guy
[2:01:13] obviously the board members
[2:01:15] did individually, it was not
[2:01:18] an ID law for sure. Definitely
[2:01:20] was not a populist. A dentist
[2:01:23] would. Get an idea in his head
[2:01:26] that he felt like was the best
[2:01:27] for the county long term,
[2:01:31] whether he was sitting up here
[2:01:33] or not. who would. Start
[2:01:38] driving. I mean, he would come
[2:01:38] up with the plan years after
[2:01:39] he was in office. He came up
[2:01:42] to at an event and hey, want
[2:01:43] to talk to you about this. We
[2:01:44] need to get this fiction. It
[2:01:46] already put this whole thing
[2:01:47] together in his head again,
[2:01:50] years after he was out of
[2:01:53] office. So just what what a
[2:01:54] leader with a leader on this
[2:01:57] board certainly the renaming
[2:01:59] of metal, Chris government
[2:02:01] building and his honor, it’s
[2:02:05] time as time has come for
[2:02:06] sure. So thank you for
[2:02:06] supporting and appreciate it.
[2:02:08] Commissioner Kerik. I’d like
[2:02:12] to sake Mr. Hole.
[2:02:18] >> Saying that he’s going to
[2:02:18] do something wonderful for all
[2:02:19] of their citizens. And then I
[2:02:21] have some pictures for
[2:02:24] commissioner Bays to see some
[2:02:25] of the roads. In Citrus
[2:02:28] Springs and Pine Ridge. And
[2:02:31] see how they compare with the
[2:02:32] road. You’re going to show him
[2:02:34] because these are people that
[2:02:34] have called me. attorney Lynn.
[2:02:41] I’ve nothing. Thank you.
[2:02:45] >> Okay. Second time for open
[2:02:46] to the public. Anyone want to
[2:02:50] speak.
[2:02:51] >> Remember, you have 3
[2:02:52] minutes at the podium. If you
[2:02:52] have a letter and file, let us
[2:02:53] know. Check with the clerk.
[2:02:55] >> Please keep all comments
[2:02:56] directed to me. The chairwoman
[2:03:00] pertaining to county business.
[2:03:01] Hello, Mr. Live Real. It is
[2:03:04] not on. Thank you, sir.
[2:03:14] >> thank you. Chairwoman and
[2:03:15] members of this commission. I
[2:03:16] just wanted to come back up I
[2:03:18] kind silent, Sam, but I just
[2:03:19] my 3 minutes this time. So my
[2:03:23] name is on the drilling within
[2:03:24] with the I live in Inverness.
[2:03:25] And I wanted to just address
[2:03:26] again the issue of the library
[2:03:28] displays actually Charlie Kirk
[2:03:32] in general, as I said, number
[2:03:33] of counties have passed
[2:03:38] resolution or proclamation to declare October 14th, the
[2:03:40] trucker Remembrance I read the
[2:03:43] list of counties that have
[2:03:45] done something along those
[2:03:46] lines already. So I’m not
[2:03:47] gonna do that again. But
[2:03:49] Charlie Kirk died a year ago
[2:03:52] Thursday this is very, very
[2:03:57] important figure in the
[2:04:00] Christian community who spoke
[2:04:02] difficult truths and was
[2:04:03] assassinated because of his
[2:04:04] words, which essentially just
[2:04:09] typical principles and and was
[2:04:12] just letting college students
[2:04:14] know with the biblical truth
[2:04:16] is regarding, for
[2:04:20] transgenderism and cannot
[2:04:21] become a woman and so forth.
[2:04:22] And and he was assassinated
[2:04:23] for that. So. He his death
[2:04:28] really impacted lot of We feel
[2:04:29] that it would be appropriate
[2:04:32] for you if you don’t want to
[2:04:33] do our library display to at
[2:04:34] least have a proclamation on
[2:04:37] your meeting October, the 13th
[2:04:38] I see you’re having one 13th,
[2:04:39] which is the day before his
[2:04:41] birthday of October. The 14th
[2:04:42] and know what the prop the
[2:04:45] process is deciding I think
[2:04:46] its staff, but if you can make
[2:04:49] it a motion to direct staff to
[2:04:51] do a proclamation that day
[2:04:55] again, if you don’t want to do
[2:04:55] the library display, at least
[2:04:58] do that because I think it’s
[2:04:59] appropriate and it would be
[2:05:01] taken. It would be positively
[2:05:03] received by by the public. The
[2:05:06] other thing which I kind ran
[2:05:06] out of time on is that your
[2:05:09] next meeting I mean, out there
[2:05:12] on Thursday, the October, I’m
[2:05:13] sorry, the September the 10th
[2:05:15] meeting, the tentative budget
[2:05:17] hearing. I believe that
[2:05:19] meeting the sheriff will be
[2:05:19] here to present his budget if
[2:05:20] I’m not mistaken. And I think
[2:05:22] that would be a very good
[2:05:23] opportunity to ask him
[2:05:26] regarding what the sheriff’s
[2:05:27] office says procedures are
[2:05:29] regarding complaints about death threats
[2:05:33] because as you I believe the
[2:05:35] threat complain that they
[2:05:36] received was mishandled badly.
[2:05:38] And again, just to go over
[2:05:39] what happened, the individual,
[2:05:42] Jennifer Brogan, she’s here.
[2:05:44] She to the county Sheriff’s
[2:05:47] office. She reported a death
[2:05:49] threat. The deputy did not put
[2:05:52] that. She reported a death
[2:05:53] threat in the written report.
[2:05:55] He told or to block a a
[2:05:58] blocked number, which I feel
[2:06:00] is very appropriate. If it’s a
[2:06:01] death, it’s it’s not just us a
[2:06:01] scam. It’s a death threat, you
[2:06:03] know, just block that. That’s
[2:06:04] a threat. I believe the proper
[2:06:06] response would have been to
[2:06:08] trace the call. I understand
[2:06:09] that that happened afterwards.
[2:06:10] But it should have been on the
[2:06:13] initial visit. And and then
[2:06:14] and the reporting that is an
[2:06:16] everyday thing, which which is
[2:06:16] just dismissing So I feel that
[2:06:20] if sheriff is here, if you
[2:06:22] could ask him what the
[2:06:23] procedure is regarding that
[2:06:24] and how that can be better
[2:06:25] handle. Thank you for your
[2:06:26] comments.
[2:06:26] >> Next, Speaker. Anyone else?
[2:06:36] Welcome again.
[2:06:40] >> All right. Through just
[2:06:42] like Chris Bryant, a So that
[2:06:43] exchange earlier Ariza more
[2:06:45] questions for Is there a
[2:06:46] process that you guys have in
[2:06:47] place that’ll that I guess.
[2:06:51] Allows commissioners to
[2:06:52] represents Citrus County at
[2:06:53] some, whatever it is, whether
[2:06:56] it’s a conference, whether
[2:06:56] it’s a meeting or something
[2:06:58] like that in the past, we’ve
[2:07:01] seen commissioners kind of,
[2:07:01] you know, doing their own
[2:07:02] That’s kind of got us in
[2:07:03] trouble before. And so it
[2:07:04] appears that, you know, we
[2:07:05] just heard we’re invited to
[2:07:07] this thing. I never saw us
[2:07:07] talk about that. I don’t think
[2:07:10] any guys knew about that. And
[2:07:14] the reason staff time and
[2:07:14] resources to provide
[2:07:15] presentations for this
[2:07:18] particular thing. So kind of
[2:07:18] raises questions on when you
[2:07:22] guys is do things. If there’s
[2:07:23] a process in place where the I
[2:07:25] know guys have done young
[2:07:25] individual projects,
[2:07:27] commissioner car brought
[2:07:27] forward Parts Co that was a
[2:07:28] public discussion. The board
[2:07:29] agreed to pursue that sports
[2:07:31] field. That was public
[2:07:32] discussion. The board agreed
[2:07:33] to pursue that so I asked us
[2:07:37] to look into doing a a process
[2:07:39] of sorts that when someone
[2:07:41] goes to represent the county
[2:07:41] as an official capacity are
[2:07:43] unofficial the title of this,
[2:07:44] those have commissioner on it
[2:07:48] and, you know, just kind have
[2:07:49] a for that. Thank you.
[2:07:51] >> Thank Speaker.
[2:07:56] >> Jakarta, Liam Byrne, us to
[2:07:59] talk a little bit about the
[2:08:00] budget workshop. I attended a
[2:08:03] workshop that commissioner
[2:08:05] days had and as a new citizen,
[2:08:06] I thought it was very
[2:08:06] informative. You get to meet
[2:08:09] the commit the constitutional
[2:08:11] and you’re trying to grasp a
[2:08:11] little bit more of what I
[2:08:17] personally doubt it was
[2:08:17] informative and that was poor
[2:08:18] citizens would come and get a
[2:08:20] better grip on what’s going
[2:08:21] on. Budget Wise. Thank you.
[2:08:24] >> Next, Speaker. Anyone else?
[2:08:30] Close open to the public.
[2:08:34] >> Actually that they was a
[2:08:36] very sad day. And I know
[2:08:36] there’s been controversy about
[2:08:38] library, but I think that we
[2:08:38] have a lot of proclamations. I
[2:08:39] think it’s a great idea to do
[2:08:41] a proclamation for Charlie
[2:08:45] Kirk Day that we can put on
[2:08:46] that October meeting if no one
[2:08:46] has an issue with I don’t hear
[2:08:52] any issues. So maybe we
[2:08:56] >> Go ahead and do that. and
[2:08:59] Mr. Brown also has a very good
[2:09:00] point. I if someone now or in
[2:09:04] the future is representing the
[2:09:06] county, the board should know
[2:09:07] about that because and I’m not
[2:09:09] speaking even of now could be
[2:09:10] 10 years from now.
[2:09:13] >> Board member can go and be
[2:09:14] representing the county for
[2:09:14] something that is adverse to
[2:09:17] what the what the board is.
[2:09:20] The board’s voted on
[2:09:23] direction. So they’re
[2:09:24] absolutely should be a process
[2:09:25] in place that thank you for
[2:09:26] bringing that up. Madam Chair.
[2:09:29] >> Commissioner and brought it
[2:09:30] up at least twice on the dice
[2:09:31] in pride in 2 different
[2:09:34] meetings.
[2:09:34] >> want to talk about a
[2:09:34] specific just it’s a good idea
[2:09:37] to have a process that had a
[2:09:38] problem with that. I send you
[2:09:39] all would have spoken up when
[2:09:39] I brought it up. Anyone else.
[2:09:43] I think that it should be
[2:09:46] right If you’re going to
[2:09:47] travel and represent. I know
[2:09:51] commissioner basis traveling
[2:09:51] representative for F a C.
[2:09:54] Florida. I was not aware you
[2:09:59] seen, you if a but I didn’t
[2:10:02] realize you were going to go
[2:10:03] to Colorado. Okay. And and
[2:10:06] that’s the thing. It must have
[2:10:09] been brought real fast because
[2:10:10] I don’t mind you go on. What
[2:10:14] I’d like to know what the
[2:10:15] conference was about. And I
[2:10:16] know conservation lands and
[2:10:18] that’s fine. Okay. But maybe
[2:10:22] you should show 4 of us. What
[2:10:24] you’re going to present. And
[2:10:27] maybe that what we should talk
[2:10:30] about, if you’re going to go Z
[2:10:31] something and another seeing
[2:10:34] that you should present it the
[2:10:34] board. So that we can agree.
[2:10:37] That’s a good presentation for
[2:10:38] everybody see. Showing our
[2:10:40] best foot forward for the
[2:10:41] county. And I do like the fact
[2:10:43] that you’re going. I think
[2:10:46] that that of said that you’re
[2:10:48] gone. I just don’t remember.
[2:10:49] You bring back and you want
[2:10:50] it. Colorado. For I mean, F a
[2:10:55] C I a I push. You know, I
[2:10:56] appreciate I go to those.
[2:10:59] >> I think you brought during
[2:11:00] a hearing not like as a item
[2:11:03] are under your name or did
[2:11:04] specifically did not bring it
[2:11:06] up as an item? I’m not
[2:11:07] suggesting all I brought it up
[2:11:08] several times saying because
[2:11:10] I’m quite proud of the fact
[2:11:11] that Citrus County was asked
[2:11:13] to participate in this. So I
[2:11:14] brought it up during the
[2:11:14] applications. Probably not.
[2:11:15] You know. The appropriate
[2:11:17] time. The boards.
[2:11:20] >> We’re here when were
[2:11:22] hearing occasion, it was
[2:11:22] during my I heard you say last
[2:11:26] board meetings at upstart at
[2:11:28] least twice not more on this
[2:11:28] board during regular.
[2:11:33] >> Business meeting. Okay.
[2:11:34] I’m sure Miles will be
[2:11:35] happy to share with you. There
[2:11:37] are 2 versions. One has my
[2:11:39] voice over. If because it
[2:11:41] helped in creating the video
[2:11:43] if for reason, I’m not able to
[2:11:47] travel next week because oh,
[2:11:48] by the way of presenting 10
[2:11:48] days. OK, so then they could
[2:11:52] show that. But the whole set
[2:11:54] up, you know, make sure you
[2:11:55] get the lake and all that
[2:11:56] other good stuff. The whole
[2:11:58] set up is that there are 4 of
[2:11:58] us presenting. And, you know,
[2:12:01] the other 3, it’s Heather
[2:12:03] again and rematch. I am the
[2:12:06] leadoff hitter. They are
[2:12:09] presenting the green print
[2:12:10] that they did for Citrus
[2:12:12] County to land conservation at
[2:12:19] the conference to basically
[2:12:20] showcase how maybe they could
[2:12:22] do something similar in their
[2:12:23] own communities. So I am and
[2:12:26] basically welcoming them.
[2:12:27] They’re going through the
[2:12:28] green print for Citrus County.
[2:12:30] So I am welcoming welcoming
[2:12:31] them as their commissioner for
[2:12:32] the next 90 minutes. They’re
[2:12:36] pretending that they live in
[2:12:36] Citrus County and they’re
[2:12:37] going through the whole grain
[2:12:38] print process. We should be
[2:12:40] proud of this. This is a big
[2:12:41] deal. That we got asked to do
[2:12:43] this.
[2:12:49] >> It is I am proud that
[2:12:50] you’re doing this and that’s
[2:12:50] why I’m trying to get across.
[2:12:53] I know not me. Not me. We
[2:12:53] should be proud for the
[2:12:55] county, right? But I’m proud
[2:12:56] that you are presenting for
[2:12:57] the county and we have the
[2:12:59] opposite. But I would have
[2:13:00] preferred if I get to see the
[2:13:01] video. And stuff and you’re
[2:13:05] going to send me the link. So
[2:13:06] I’m gonna get to see the
[2:13:06] video. Maybe I missed you say
[2:13:11] in because it wasn’t, you
[2:13:11] know, by the way, I need be a
[2:13:15] waste at such and such and I’m
[2:13:15] going to be gone and, you
[2:13:19] know, is one of those things
[2:13:20] facing the facing. But when
[2:13:24] you’re going out of state like
[2:13:25] this, I it line sides. Me did
[2:13:28] you go up? But I think it’s
[2:13:29] wonderful that you are. It is
[2:13:31] wonderful that you are
[2:13:32] presenting good presentation
[2:13:35] of our county.
[2:13:37] >> Okay. Next up, Rhys.
[2:13:40] Aviation Advisory board
[2:13:40] announcement.
[2:13:45] >> Item Q One Aviation
[2:13:47] Advisory board announced
[2:13:48] member at large position
[2:13:51] vacancy announced the term of
[2:13:52] the membership available and
[2:13:53] accepting applications for one
[2:13:53] member at large position of
[2:13:55] the aviation advisory board.
[2:13:57] The term for the regular
[2:13:58] member position will be
[2:13:59] through January 31st. 2027.
[2:14:04] >> Thank you. Okay. This board
[2:14:05] will be at recess until 501.
[2:19:49] Welcome back, everybody. 501.
[2:19:51] And we’re ready to to our
[2:19:51] public hearings were going to
[2:19:54] start off.
[2:19:54] >> With few D 2026 series, 0, 6, Citrus Hills investment
[2:19:58] properties for Clear View
[2:20:00] Estates development of
[2:20:03] regional impact. Welcome and
[2:20:03] will Attorney Lynne get us
[2:20:06] started.
[2:20:07] >> Yes, with regard to the
[2:20:08] applications you have on your
[2:20:08] agenda this evening. There’s 2
[2:20:10] of them. Have you had any ex
[2:20:12] parte communications you need
[2:20:12] to disclose for the record and
[2:20:13] we’ll start with Commissioner
[2:20:14] Davis. No, no, no, no. Now.
[2:20:19] Thank you. Madam Chair of and
[2:20:20] the first ordinance that
[2:20:20] you’ll be asked to consider is
[2:20:23] an ordinance of Citrus County,
[2:20:24] Florida, a political
[2:20:26] subdivision of the state of
[2:20:26] Florida. Many of Citrus County
[2:20:27] Land use Atlas Map and the
[2:20:29] Clearview Estates development
[2:20:29] of regional impact to increase
[2:20:32] the allowable retail
[2:20:33] commercial office square
[2:20:35] footage within the development
[2:20:37] on existing retail commercial
[2:20:37] office designated tracks
[2:20:40] providing for applicability,
[2:20:41] providing for severability,
[2:20:42] providing for inclusion,
[2:20:44] providing for a scrivener’s
[2:20:45] errors providing for
[2:20:45] modification that may arise
[2:20:46] from consideration of public
[2:20:46] hearing and providing for an
[2:20:48] effective date. I think Mr.
[2:20:49] Able is here on behalf of the
[2:20:49] applicant. Welcome, Mr. Able.
[2:21:01] >> Okay. Good evening,
[2:21:02] commissioners. Thank you for
[2:21:02] your time. My name is Eric
[2:21:07] able vice presidents chills,
[2:21:08] Investment Properties, LLC,
[2:21:09] the owner of the property. At
[2:21:12] the outset, though, I would
[2:21:13] like to acknowledge the
[2:21:14] current procedure being used
[2:21:15] nd our eyes. It is my sincere
[2:21:19] opinion that the circuit court
[2:21:20] decision recently made
[2:21:21] regarding Pine Ridge is
[2:21:23] erroneous. However, I believe
[2:21:26] the decision this commission
[2:21:26] recently made to him in the L
[2:21:27] D C. And follow up to ensure
[2:21:31] previous bocc decisions. It is
[2:21:33] the most cost effective. And
[2:21:37] is the most reliable cure and
[2:21:40] lie that plan. I’m happy to
[2:21:43] participate in this hearing as
[2:21:44] scheduled as notice to
[2:21:45] everyone due process knowing
[2:21:48] that whatever decision is made
[2:21:50] today can be folded into that
[2:21:51] same process. So just just a
[2:21:54] procedure that will let you
[2:21:55] know, West and the it may have
[2:21:57] no influence on you. But I
[2:21:58] want. But, you know, we are
[2:22:00] definitely wanting to
[2:22:01] participate in this process.
[2:22:05] Citrus Fields is the owner of
[2:22:06] ClearView States Dri which was
[2:22:07] established in 1978. This
[2:22:11] application concerns 80.0, 8,
[2:22:14] 6, acres of non-residential
[2:22:15] property situated along State
[2:22:17] Road. 44, the subject property
[2:22:20] was designated for 450,000
[2:22:22] Square Feet of commercial
[2:22:23] space. 31 years ago. In 1995,
[2:22:26] at that time commercial
[2:22:30] development standards and the
[2:22:31] county standards for
[2:22:31] commercial development was
[2:22:32] different. We are seeking to
[2:22:36] increase the square commercial
[2:22:37] use in the dri by 358,600
[2:22:39] square feet. The dri numbers
[2:22:44] are insufficient by today’s
[2:22:44] commercial development
[2:22:45] standards. I’m sure you
[2:22:48] understand that to be the case
[2:22:49] but wanted to offer up some
[2:22:50] relevant background and
[2:22:50] further evidence. To view
[2:22:54] states Dri has a total of
[2:22:54] 80.0. 8, 6, acres along its
[2:22:57] frontage of state road. 44.
[2:23:01] The land use table one map h
[2:23:02] of the dri displays 49 acres
[2:23:03] as commercial. 13 acres
[2:23:07] office. 2.1, 6 acres of
[2:23:10] community facility which was
[2:23:11] abandoned to giving back to
[2:23:12] the developer by the
[2:23:12] community. in 2019. And 3
[2:23:15] acres DRA, a total of 13.7
[2:23:18] acres is unaccounted for in
[2:23:19] the. Between the number to
[2:23:23] 80.6 versus what you what is
[2:23:24] listed on that page. In part,
[2:23:26] this includes the landscape
[2:23:27] buffer. To be clear, we are
[2:23:31] not wanting to eliminate
[2:23:33] buffer. Instead, we want to
[2:23:34] commit to meet the counties
[2:23:37] standards for buffering just
[2:23:38] not. And then in any precept
[2:23:39] configuration. The dri
[2:23:43] currently designates
[2:23:43] commercial office. Retail.
[2:23:46] Area at 550,000 Square Feet.
[2:23:50] That’s 450 K of GNC and
[2:23:52] 100,000. The Pso. By current
[2:23:55] standards. Low to moderate
[2:24:00] commercial development is
[2:24:00] defined 10,000 to 20,000.
[2:24:02] Square feet Per acre. We are
[2:24:07] respectfully requesting an
[2:24:08] increase of ClearView states
[2:24:10] dri. Allow the GNC by an
[2:24:11] additional 358 600. From for
[2:24:17] to wait 600 across its 80.0,
[2:24:17] 8, 6, acres. The dri currently
[2:24:22] permits a variance of up to
[2:24:25] 540,000 Square feet of GNC.
[2:24:26] From that perspective, the
[2:24:28] request is increase of only
[2:24:30] 268, 600 square feet. 260,600
[2:24:36] Square Feet. This request
[2:24:37] increase would raise the
[2:24:38] allowable commercial
[2:24:38] development rights right to
[2:24:39] today’s commercial standards
[2:24:42] and equal to the lowest end.
[2:24:45] The low to moderate range at
[2:24:46] 10,000 square feet per acre.
[2:24:50] The state road. 44. Frontage
[2:24:54] commercial slash
[2:24:55] non-residential is generally
[2:24:56] split South run for the roses.
[2:25:00] Having 44.3, 7 acres west of
[2:25:01] state of South Run for the
[2:25:02] Roses. Including Home Depot’s
[2:25:07] 18.4 acres with the out
[2:25:08] parcels. And 36.4 9 acres east
[2:25:12] of south run for the roses,
[2:25:13] including 3 acres of DRA. On
[2:25:16] the at this map. Page. The
[2:25:18] Home Depot, partial along with
[2:25:22] its Parsons, consumes
[2:25:23] approximately 200,000 Square
[2:25:25] feet of GNC across just 18 0,
[2:25:29] 8, 4 acres, a density of
[2:25:30] 10,616 per acre. After home
[2:25:33] team after Home Depot’s
[2:25:36] development. There’s a balance
[2:25:36] of only 250,000 Square feet of
[2:25:39] GNC for the remaining 62
[2:25:39] acres. Or 4,000 square feet
[2:25:45] per acre less than half of is
[2:25:47] even needed by today’s lowest
[2:25:47] commercial development
[2:25:48] standards. Please note by
[2:25:51] comparison to today’s county
[2:25:53] standers, the county does not
[2:25:55] impose a square foot. A
[2:25:56] limitation on GMC. Because Ldc
[2:26:00] has requirements for access
[2:26:01] management. Floor area ratio,
[2:26:06] impervious surface ratios set
[2:26:07] cetera, which must still be
[2:26:08] met. In essence, we are
[2:26:12] agreeable to continue with
[2:26:13] this requested 10,000 square
[2:26:14] feet per acre limitation to
[2:26:17] assuage any concerns you may
[2:26:18] have of overdevelopment. Again
[2:26:21] at 10,000 Square feet. We are
[2:26:22] at the lowest the low to
[2:26:24] moderate commercial
[2:26:24] development standards.
[2:26:29] Accordingly, respectfully
[2:26:30] request to increase the square
[2:26:31] footage of commercial office.
[2:26:34] Retail uses in previous states
[2:26:35] dri by 358,600 square feet. To
[2:26:39] a total of 8, 0, 8, 600
[2:26:40] matches. See 80.0. 86. after
[2:26:42] all of us. Resulting in
[2:26:46] approximately 608,000 across
[2:26:47] the developers remaining 60
[2:26:50] 0.8 6 acres along. 44. Thank
[2:26:54] Happy to answer questions now
[2:26:55] and or but if I need to hear
[2:26:58] something for help.
[2:27:00] >> Where do have any questions
[2:27:00] for Mister Abel? Thank you
[2:27:04] very 2 All right. Mr. Able to
[2:27:11] a lot of my job for him for
[2:27:12] me, which I appreciate. This
[2:27:14] is an application to expand
[2:27:15] the amount of commercial
[2:27:16] square footage in a clear view
[2:27:17] estates development regional
[2:27:19] impact.
[2:27:21] >> This is the right you can
[2:27:22] see there are some residential
[2:27:23] homes are actually part of
[2:27:24] Clearview but not actually
[2:27:25] part of the dri we were
[2:27:28] talking about is area on the
[2:27:29] very south of this right on
[2:27:29] 44. And this is the deer. I
[2:27:34] had to turn it sideways if
[2:27:35] you’re on the slide. But on
[2:27:37] the right side where you see
[2:27:38] the blue area arrows, those
[2:27:39] little honey come type places,
[2:27:40] that’s the commercial that’s
[2:27:43] been commercial since 1978.
[2:27:45] It’s not proposed to change.
[2:27:46] There was some confusion at
[2:27:47] the PDC with some of the
[2:27:49] residents that we’re doubling
[2:27:51] commercial. They’re they’re
[2:27:52] asking to expand commercial.
[2:27:54] They’re not. They’re still
[2:27:55] commercial. They’re staying
[2:27:55] commercial that been like that
[2:27:56] since 1978. However, they are
[2:27:59] trying to expand the amount of
[2:28:00] square footage as he pointed
[2:28:02] out. So right now they’re
[2:28:04] permitted for 550,000
[2:28:06] square-foot of commercial
[2:28:07] expanded throughout that honey
[2:28:08] comb the area. And you just
[2:28:11] heard testimony that about
[2:28:12] 200,000 of that is is proposed
[2:28:13] to be taken up by Home Depot
[2:28:15] and the out parcels. We
[2:28:16] haven’t seen permitting for
[2:28:16] the out parcels yet. So I
[2:28:19] didn’t have that exact figure
[2:28:19] in the staff report, but that
[2:28:23] leaves them with about 350,000
[2:28:25] for the remaining acreage.
[2:28:26] That’s not meant much for that
[2:28:28] amount of square footage. That
[2:28:29] amount of acreage on. 44, so
[2:28:32] they are proposing to increase
[2:28:33] this to a total of 808,600
[2:28:36] from 550,000. So they’re
[2:28:39] planning and development
[2:28:40] Commission did review this on
[2:28:42] August, 8th 2026 and they did
[2:28:44] recommend approval with the 2
[2:28:46] conditions, one that the
[2:28:47] commercial square footage
[2:28:48] increases to 808,600. And
[2:28:52] that’s number 2 that for those
[2:28:53] areas they do have to comply
[2:28:55] with all existing standards
[2:28:56] and the dri and the Land
[2:28:57] Development code. That’s all I
[2:28:58] have. Or do you have any
[2:29:02] questions for MS? Could too?
[2:29:08] >> At this time, then I will
[2:29:09] open it up to public comment.
[2:29:12] would like to speak on this.
[2:29:14] You have 3 minutes at the
[2:29:15] podium. If you’re speaking for
[2:29:18] an organization, police say
[2:29:19] that into the microphone we’ll
[2:29:20] check. The clerk will give me
[2:29:21] an odd one where than other
[2:29:22] another.
[2:29:25] >> The clerk must have your
[2:29:26] letter on file. Please state
[2:29:27] your name where you’re from
[2:29:28] direct. All comments to me.
[2:29:31] The board chairman. please
[2:29:32] keep your comments to this
[2:29:35] application. Hello and
[2:29:35] welcome. Good afternoon, Madam
[2:29:39] Chairman.
[2:29:39] >> PJ off-camera, Citrus
[2:29:40] County. So I’d like a little
[2:29:42] clarification. You’re being
[2:29:43] asked to vote on an expansion.
[2:29:46] >> Of buildable property. With
[2:29:50] nothing presented to tell you
[2:29:51] what it could be. It’s just
[2:29:53] going to be commercial. He
[2:29:56] could end up with the mess. We
[2:29:58] have it for 91 and normal.
[2:30:00] Bryant. We could be all
[2:30:04] storage facilities. We could
[2:30:05] have whatever backing up onto
[2:30:07] the residents who clearly, you
[2:30:09] know, their realtors when they
[2:30:12] sold in their properties. And
[2:30:13] citrus still should have told
[2:30:14] him that those trees, we’re
[2:30:16] only, you know, getting
[2:30:18] agricultural exemption so they
[2:30:19] couldn’t pay to didn’t have to
[2:30:20] pay full taxes built stuff.
[2:30:22] There. But I don’t think it’s
[2:30:24] fair to the residents get that
[2:30:27] you consider supporting the
[2:30:30] developer against the
[2:30:31] residents and sisters county.
[2:30:31] I think we just did this last
[2:30:32] week did away with Pine Ridge
[2:30:35] talking about who you actually
[2:30:38] are representing. I think this
[2:30:40] is kid say it’s a bad plan
[2:30:41] because of no plan. There. So
[2:30:43] what do you vote on yet? What
[2:30:47] kind of legacy is this going
[2:30:48] to leave for you all 10 years
[2:30:49] from now? When traffic is a
[2:30:52] disaster? And, you know, we
[2:30:53] still got the debacle at
[2:30:55] Kensington that never should
[2:30:57] have happened. What’s going to
[2:30:58] happen here? People what’s
[2:31:01] going to happen with with just
[2:31:04] accessing everything. They
[2:31:06] have. All the property in
[2:31:06] Citrus Hills is hands that
[2:31:07] they could also do commercial
[2:31:09] on. It’s not a big thing. They
[2:31:11] just they just want a bigger
[2:31:12] bite of the Apple. They sold
[2:31:14] off all of this property, the
[2:31:15] Home Depot oops. Suddenly we
[2:31:16] don’t have enough to make even
[2:31:17] more profit. That’s not your
[2:31:18] full. That’s not my fault.
[2:31:20] That’s their fault for having
[2:31:21] poor planning. thing is is
[2:31:28] this is this is not good. This
[2:31:29] is not the way we should be
[2:31:31] doing things. And I I implore
[2:31:33] you to do the right thing.
[2:31:35] Vote for the residents until
[2:31:37] they bring you a solid plan,
[2:31:39] telling you what they want to
[2:31:40] do there and what’s going to
[2:31:41] happen. You need to vote no on
[2:31:42] this. Thank Thank you for your
[2:31:44] comments next. Speaker. The
[2:31:47] one that’s would like to speak
[2:31:47] in All right, Kris Bryant
[2:31:58] centers inside her home find
[2:31:59] the full 5 minutes. But ask
[2:32:00] for that. So I wanted to come
[2:32:04] up today. I want to formally
[2:32:06] for Commissioner Davis to
[2:32:07] recuse yourself from this vote
[2:32:08] and explain the reasons for
[2:32:11] that state statute. 2, 8, 6,
[2:32:14] 0, 1, 2, on this requires you
[2:32:15] guys to make votes for things
[2:32:17] that come to you guys. It’s a
[2:32:18] state requirement to do that.
[2:32:20] >> However, there’s a carve
[2:32:20] out for that at the bottom of
[2:32:21] the wreath at into the record.
[2:32:23] If the official decision
[2:32:25] ruling or act occurs in the
[2:32:27] context of a quasi judicial
[2:32:28] proceeding member may abstain
[2:32:30] from voting on such matter at
[2:32:32] the absent Haitian is to
[2:32:32] assure a fair proceeding free
[2:32:33] for potential bias and
[2:32:34] prejudice. The key words there
[2:32:37] are free from potential bias
[2:32:39] and prejudice months put this
[2:32:40] in for the record. Going back
[2:32:44] to the party meeting. read a
[2:32:45] quote, you guys for the record
[2:32:47] I have heard this is from
[2:32:48] Commissioner Davis August
[2:32:50] 25th. I’ve heard multiple
[2:32:51] people make fun of me for
[2:32:52] calling myself in the girl. I
[2:32:54] had the courage to prove it in
[2:32:55] 3 and a half weeks. I’m
[2:32:57] actually a speaker at National
[2:32:58] Conference on Land
[2:32:59] Conservation profiling efforts
[2:32:59] in Citrus County for the green
[2:33:01] Prince, the symposium family.
[2:33:03] What your father’s going to
[2:33:03] kill me for out of him in
[2:33:04] public with a large truck for
[2:33:05] that. That project is the
[2:33:08] nature Coast forever study
[2:33:08] that was brought to the board
[2:33:09] on October. 21st 2025. and
[2:33:12] there was a list of different
[2:33:15] donors that donated up to
[2:33:16] $43,000 for this project to
[2:33:18] 1000 of which a minimum 2000,
[2:33:19] which was from the tempos, the
[2:33:21] family, as entered into the
[2:33:21] record as well. The reason
[2:33:26] bring that up is that we don’t
[2:33:27] have green print study without
[2:33:29] the tempos, the family and
[2:33:30] others donating to that
[2:33:33] project. So project was
[2:33:34] brought to us for the for the
[2:33:36] green France. It was gotten
[2:33:37] donations for that. Now we
[2:33:38] have a family that’s not
[2:33:39] presenting to the board today
[2:33:40] for a project that is donating
[2:33:40] money for that further.
[2:33:44] Commissioner Davis is
[2:33:45] traveling to Denver to speak
[2:33:46] on behalf of apparently Citrus
[2:33:48] County for this co-presidents
[2:33:52] present People Co presenting
[2:33:54] with her from the North will
[2:33:56] interest. So the very company
[2:33:58] that we have a contract with Citrus County that we’re
[2:34:01] getting money from from these
[2:34:02] donations. She’s now they’re
[2:34:03] out there doing the speaking.
[2:34:07] So again, free from potential
[2:34:08] bias reason person with this
[2:34:09] record well. A result personal
[2:34:12] look at this and say this is a
[2:34:13] quid pro growth. We got a
[2:34:15] $2000 from the temples family
[2:34:16] or minimum of $2000. Don’t
[2:34:18] know the exact amounts for the
[2:34:20] green printing that came
[2:34:22] forward. And now the
[2:34:24] Commissioner Davis is going to
[2:34:24] Denver to speak on reprinting.
[2:34:26] again, we wouldn’t have once
[2:34:26] we got those nations. So there
[2:34:31] is clear bias potential there
[2:34:32] for the general public’s. I
[2:34:33] wanted to put that into the
[2:34:33] record. Should anyone she
[2:34:36] continues to on this. Should
[2:34:37] anyone want to appeal for you
[2:34:38] guys? Something?
[2:34:41] >> Thank you for your comments
[2:34:41] next. Speaker. What anyone
[2:34:45] else like to speak on this
[2:34:46] application? Close the public
[2:34:49] portion of the hearing. Mr.
[2:34:58] Able t have any rebuttal, but
[2:34:58] you would like.
[2:35:04] >> two-pointer raised. The GNC
[2:35:08] square-foot is what’s being
[2:35:09] asked to be changed here. Not
[2:35:12] a change in plans so we don’t
[2:35:12] have any plans the way
[2:35:14] commercial development works
[2:35:16] is literally we have find
[2:35:18] people interested putting in
[2:35:19] the current commercial
[2:35:19] development with the blank.
[2:35:23] They didn’t come to us and
[2:35:23] ask, you know, can it? And
[2:35:24] then ask the county can this
[2:35:27] fit? Can it work where they
[2:35:28] have to do and then the
[2:35:31] commercial buyer would say,
[2:35:31] yes, I’m in or out. You can’t
[2:35:36] put the cart before the horse.
[2:35:36] I can. You be a plan for some
[2:35:37] Not going to be here until
[2:35:38] they come to us. So there has
[2:35:40] to and and appropriate.
[2:35:44] Doesn’t use of the land before
[2:35:46] that commercial buyer will
[2:35:47] come to you. Or to us in this
[2:35:48] case. The other I don’t want
[2:35:58] to I’ve never had any
[2:36:00] conversation with Commissioner
[2:36:01] Davis about anything about
[2:36:03] Denver, trips or anything. I
[2:36:04] don’t have any. I think what
[2:36:05] she says same thing I would
[2:36:05] tell you there’s been no
[2:36:07] communication about this.
[2:36:13] that’s close. I can say I
[2:36:13] don’t know why there’s even
[2:36:14] up. Suggestion of impropriety.
[2:36:22] >> Or we can deliberate. I
[2:36:23] will when I listen to
[2:36:27] everything, one of the
[2:36:29] speakers have commented. I am
[2:36:29] one person that will always
[2:36:31] say we the district to the
[2:36:34] plan and the difference
[2:36:34] between Pine Ridge was zoning
[2:36:37] changes. That was really a
[2:36:38] change in plan. This to me is
[2:36:41] not a change plan. The
[2:36:43] commercial area. So if I was
[2:36:45] to live in that community. And
[2:36:48] see what that b*** up against,
[2:36:49] it would have been commercial.
[2:36:53] That’s not changing. There’s
[2:36:53] no change in that zoning.
[2:36:55] There’s no change in the plan
[2:36:56] that was always set to
[2:37:01] commercial. So in my eyes, the
[2:37:02] 2 are not the same.
[2:37:14] >> Make a that we approve 2,
[2:37:18] 0, 2, 6, Dash, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6,
[2:37:19] second.
[2:37:23] >> Motion by Commissioner
[2:37:25] Canard second by Commissioner
[2:37:26] Barrack all those in favor.
[2:37:27] Aye, any opposed motion
[2:37:29] carries 5, 0,
[2:37:34] >> Thank you for being here
[2:37:35] today. Congratulations. And we
[2:37:36] will move on to the next
[2:37:37] hearing. Madam Attorney.
[2:37:45] Commissioners at the
[2:37:45] conclusion of this public
[2:37:46] hearing, you’re going to be
[2:37:47] asked to consider an ordinance
[2:37:48] of Citrus County, Florida,
[2:37:51] political subdivision of the
[2:37:51] state of Florida Man in the
[2:37:52] Citrus County Land use Atlas
[2:37:53] map and amending an existing
[2:37:55] expired.
[2:37:57] >> Master plan for specific
[2:37:57] non residential uses with
[2:37:58] revised access points in the
[2:38:01] general commercial district
[2:38:03] providing for applicability
[2:38:03] providing for severability,
[2:38:04] providing for inclusion,
[2:38:06] providing for scrivener’s
[2:38:07] error is providing for
[2:38:08] modification that might arise
[2:38:08] from consideration of public
[2:38:09] hearing and providing for an
[2:38:11] effective date. And I believe
[2:38:12] that the applicant has their
[2:38:12] representatives here.
[2:38:19] >> please. State your name and
[2:38:21] your company. Thank you,
[2:38:22] Lauren. Rubenstein with the
[2:38:23] law firm of Hill Word
[2:38:25] Henderson and I am here on
[2:38:26] behalf of the applicant. Want
[2:38:27] come Assassin, LLC. I do just
[2:38:31] want to make sure the record’s
[2:38:32] clear I have not been sworn
[2:38:34] in. don’t believe our
[2:38:35] witnesses have either. We
[2:38:35] wanted to take care of that.
[2:38:38] do want them storm. We only
[2:38:41] swear them. If someone wants
[2:38:41] them out as long as it’s taken
[2:38:43] a sworn testimony on the
[2:38:45] record, I just wanted to make
[2:38:48] thank It sounds like you want
[2:38:50] that to happen. Which you like
[2:38:51] to really I’m attorney.
[2:38:59] >> Alright, whoever’s going to
[2:38:59] testify if you would stand and
[2:39:00] raise your right hand.
[2:39:02] >> You don’t have thank you.
[2:39:04] swear or affirm the
[2:39:05] testimony you’re about to go.
[2:39:10] Let the record reflect that.
[2:39:11] We some folks that have sworn
[2:39:13] in. And if you are going to
[2:39:14] testify when you come up to
[2:39:15] the mike, if you could just
[2:39:17] >> explain that you’ve taken
[2:39:18] the oath. That would be
[2:39:18] helpful. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:39:19] I appreciate that with me here
[2:39:23] today is Mr. Andrew help with
[2:39:24] one Oak Homosassa LLC.
[2:39:26] >> As well as Troy Carter was
[2:39:27] Suncoast Civil Engineering and
[2:39:31] Jon Snow master arborist with
[2:39:32] Tree checkup. Can start the
[2:39:37] presentation.
[2:39:40] >> It’s actually a PDF. So I’m
[2:39:41] not sure it’s going to move
[2:39:41] for some reason. engineering
[2:39:50] is a power point, but this one
[2:39:50] is a PDF so they can move it.
[2:39:54] >> This is PD twenty-twenty 6
[2:39:55] Dash, 0, 0, 0, 4, this is a
[2:40:02] request for APD for a quick
[2:40:03] service restaurant with an
[2:40:03] online pick up now as well as
[2:40:06] the drive-thru coffee shop. So
[2:40:09] just a little bit of
[2:40:11] information, general site data
[2:40:12] 1.5 acres last. It is
[2:40:16] completely surrounded by GNC
[2:40:17] uses both land, use
[2:40:17] designations and zoning to the
[2:40:21] north. You have the racetrac
[2:40:22] gas station to the South. You
[2:40:24] have a vacant pharmacy
[2:40:26] building to the east. You have
[2:40:29] a medical office and to the
[2:40:30] West across us 19, you have a
[2:40:32] retail shopping center with
[2:40:35] Publix and related. How out
[2:40:35] parcels? We can move next
[2:40:39] slide. So just a little
[2:40:41] history on the site, it is a
[2:40:45] already develop site. There
[2:40:46] are 3 vacant commercial
[2:40:47] buildings on site. There is
[2:40:50] essentially no storm water
[2:40:51] right now, which would change
[2:40:52] with this approval in 2020.
[2:40:55] There was a previous PD
[2:40:56] approval that has since
[2:40:58] expired. But I wanted to make
[2:41:00] sure you’re aware some of the
[2:41:03] previous conditions that were
[2:41:05] approved specifically. There
[2:41:07] was impervious surface ratio
[2:41:08] of 75% allowed. That is a 5%
[2:41:11] deviation from the 70% under
[2:41:12] code for Chancey as well
[2:41:17] surrounding buffers. There
[2:41:18] will 2 5 foot buffers along
[2:41:23] the south and East property
[2:41:24] line, which is a reduction
[2:41:25] from the 10 foot buffer that’s
[2:41:27] required. That is another
[2:41:28] deviation that we are also
[2:41:30] requesting with this PD. We
[2:41:34] move ahead. So here’s just a
[2:41:36] view from the southeast corner
[2:41:37] looking northwest to give you
[2:41:39] an idea of the property.
[2:41:41] That’s the bacon car wash that
[2:41:42] sitting at that corner. Here
[2:41:46] is from the northeast corner
[2:41:46] looking south last. There you
[2:41:49] see one of the specimen trees
[2:41:50] that’s located in the right of
[2:41:52] way, which will, of course, be
[2:41:52] preserved or not. Not impacted
[2:41:54] by this property project next.
[2:41:59] This is from the southwest
[2:42:00] corner looking north
[2:42:02] intersection of West Aqueduct
[2:42:03] and U.S. 19. So here is the
[2:42:06] proposed PD plan and I’m just
[2:42:09] going to run through it fast
[2:42:10] and give you some of the
[2:42:12] basics. As we mentioned.
[2:42:14] That’s right. Now Jea and see
[2:42:17] we are asking for an mpdu
[2:42:18] zoning. Quick service
[2:42:21] restaurant and the drive-thru
[2:42:22] coffee shop has mentioned the
[2:42:25] quick service restaurant with
[2:42:26] the online pickup window. We
[2:42:29] did talk at the planning
[2:42:30] Commission that is proposed to
[2:42:30] be a Chipotle. The online
[2:42:33] pickup window. Just so you
[2:42:35] know how it functions a
[2:42:36] relatively new. They’ve had it
[2:42:36] for a couple years, but
[2:42:38] there’s no order board. So
[2:42:39] it’s not the typical drive
[2:42:40] through that. You’re used to.
[2:42:41] There’s no wind driving up
[2:42:44] placing an order and then
[2:42:45] paying out the window. They
[2:42:47] all have to be done through
[2:42:48] the app or online. They’re
[2:42:49] already paid for or, you know,
[2:42:52] delivery drivers picking up
[2:42:54] orders. So the killings much
[2:42:56] faster. It’s not your typical
[2:42:57] drive-thru. We are proposing
[2:43:01] and ISR, as I mentioned, of
[2:43:04] 75%. So if you look on the PD
[2:43:07] plan, you can see the hatch
[2:43:07] pavers on that eastern side.
[2:43:11] Those are 14 parking spaces
[2:43:12] that are proposed to be per
[2:43:14] vs. Pavers under your code.
[2:43:15] There is no credit given
[2:43:16] prefer Pervious pavers, but
[2:43:20] that’s just gesture of good
[2:43:21] faith that the applicant is
[2:43:23] making to minimize any
[2:43:27] potential impact that that
[2:43:27] additional 5% ISR could
[2:43:30] potentially have. So that is
[2:43:31] something that they’re willing
[2:43:32] to is a binding condition
[2:43:34] agree to, even though there’s
[2:43:35] no credit given for it under
[2:43:36] your code. The Max building
[2:43:39] height is 50 feet high we
[2:43:42] won’t be won’t be increasing
[2:43:43] that at all. maximum that they
[2:43:46] are as one point. Now, that’s
[2:43:49] proposed is less than 0.1. So
[2:43:51] very minimal parking required
[2:43:54] under the ite justification,
[2:43:56] which has been submitted it
[2:43:56] with our parking study is 55
[2:44:00] spaces proposed on this plan
[2:44:03] is approximately 59 and we’ll
[2:44:04] go to the more detailed
[2:44:05] concept plan next where you
[2:44:05] can see that we will certainly
[2:44:08] provide the 55 spaces that are
[2:44:09] acquired likely more. But we
[2:44:12] leave that flexibility just in
[2:44:13] design in case there needs to
[2:44:16] you know, some alterations to
[2:44:17] landscape islands or
[2:44:18] stormwater that sort of thing.
[2:44:22] Building setbacks. We exceed
[2:44:23] on all of them at 65 feet.
[2:44:26] From us 1925 feet along Ala C
[2:44:28] corresponding ways. If we can
[2:44:32] go to the next side. So this
[2:44:35] is a more detailed concept
[2:44:37] plan and we provided this
[2:44:39] after the planning commission
[2:44:40] because there was a lot of lot
[2:44:41] of questions about exactly the
[2:44:43] with of drive aisles,
[2:44:44] justification for those
[2:44:46] landscape. But for what’s in
[2:44:49] so we provided this to make it
[2:44:50] a little more clear for you
[2:44:51] all and making your decision
[2:44:54] where you can see so on that
[2:44:56] East and South side is where
[2:44:58] the reduced buffer is from 10
[2:44:58] feet to 5 feet. Now, I want to
[2:45:02] be clear, we’re not reducing
[2:45:03] the amount of landscaping and
[2:45:04] that area. So even though we
[2:45:04] only have 5 feet to put it in
[2:45:07] still will comply with all the
[2:45:10] landscaping requirements. But
[2:45:12] if we were provide a 10 foot
[2:45:13] buffer, the site, the
[2:45:17] constraints are just such that
[2:45:18] we would lose that entire 14
[2:45:20] rows of parking along
[2:45:21] Pittsburgh on the East side,
[2:45:21] 14 parking spaces sees me and
[2:45:25] on the South side that 5
[2:45:26] additional fee would also
[2:45:30] jeopardize the circulation. We
[2:45:31] want to have the 20 foot wide
[2:45:33] aisle with for the drive aisle
[2:45:34] for two-way traffic. So for
[2:45:37] safety concerns and traffic
[2:45:39] flow we have requested those
[2:45:42] deviations and feel that they are appropriate. Current
[2:45:46] site our civil Talk a little
[2:45:48] more us to access point. There
[2:45:51] are a lot of access points
[2:45:52] that are proposed to be
[2:45:54] removed. There are 2 current
[2:45:54] access points on U.S. 19 that
[2:45:55] will be removed. So a big
[2:45:57] safety improvement there.
[2:46:00] will be then one right
[2:46:01] in right out off of West home
[2:46:04] assassin with a raised median
[2:46:05] in accordance with the county
[2:46:08] engineers. Conditions as well
[2:46:09] as a full access point off of
[2:46:11] Pittsburgh and off of
[2:46:11] Aqueduct, as you see. This is
[2:46:19] a proposed conceptual
[2:46:20] landscape plans to give you
[2:46:23] again and as this would be a
[2:46:24] huge upgrade for the site. So
[2:46:27] you see those larger canopies
[2:46:31] there. Those are 2 existing
[2:46:31] specimen trees that are on
[2:46:33] site. There is. And I don’t
[2:46:34] thank a 2 point. Maybe I can.
[2:46:43] Maybe it does move power
[2:46:44] point. The one specimen tree.
[2:46:54] The arborist will come up and
[2:46:55] talk about it is located. It
[2:46:57] on the northwest corner and we
[2:46:59] can pull back at that PT plan
[2:47:01] to show you that it’s right in
[2:47:04] the middle of the drive aisle.
[2:47:06] Unfortunately. And it is and
[2:47:09] we have some more pictures.
[2:47:11] We’ll get to it. But it’s
[2:47:12] already compromised in its
[2:47:14] root zone. And I’ll let the
[2:47:16] Arbor speak more to those
[2:47:17] details of why it is
[2:47:18] recommended to come out with
[2:47:18] the proposed development. So
[2:47:21] their quest to deviations is
[2:47:24] the parking deviation. As I
[2:47:27] mentioned before under the ite
[2:47:28] justification would require 55
[2:47:30] spaces. The code requires 74
[2:47:35] 75 spaces. We are requesting
[2:47:37] that deviation removal of one
[2:47:38] specimen tree, which we will
[2:47:39] discuss in more detail. The
[2:47:42] impervious surface ratio of
[2:47:44] 75% and landscaping buffers to 5 FA along the south and
[2:47:49] East property lines. So the
[2:47:52] parking it justification as I
[2:47:56] mentioned, the parking study
[2:47:56] has been submitted in this
[2:47:57] part of your part of your
[2:48:01] record with the 85th
[2:48:03] percentile for a for coffee
[2:48:08] donut shop which is not
[2:48:09] provided for under your code.
[2:48:11] Just why we look to it is
[2:48:15] requires. 26 faces for the
[2:48:18] proposed site. The 85th
[2:48:19] percentile for the fast Food
[2:48:21] restaurant would require. 29
[2:48:22] space is bringing us to that.
[2:48:23] 55 required. Here are the 2
[2:48:30] specimen that are on site as
[2:48:32] well as the specimen tree.
[2:48:33] That is just in the right of
[2:48:35] way. So you can see on the top
[2:48:37] flight last photo is the
[2:48:38] specimen tree by the existing
[2:48:40] car wash. That will be
[2:48:41] preserved as part of the plan.
[2:48:43] Of course, as I mentioned,
[2:48:44] specimen tree that’s in the
[2:48:45] right of way. It was called
[2:48:48] out in the staff report. So we
[2:48:49] just want to make sure it’s
[2:48:49] clear. Of course, we’re not
[2:48:50] touching that. You know,
[2:48:52] jeopardizing that in any way.
[2:48:55] And then that brings us to the
[2:48:58] 3rd tree that is located more
[2:48:59] of the center of the site. And
[2:49:02] I would like to bring up Mr.
[2:49:04] Jon Snow, who is a master
[2:49:06] arborist with 33 years
[2:49:09] experience from Tree checkup
[2:49:12] to discuss his arborist report
[2:49:13] and the justifications. Thank
[2:49:14] you.
[2:49:20] >> Good evening. My name is
[2:49:21] Jon with Tree for sure.
[2:49:25] Five-match arborist been
[2:49:26] practicing for 33 years. So I
[2:49:30] visited the proximate week or
[2:49:30] so ago. And inspected the all
[2:49:34] 3 of the trees, one tree.
[2:49:36] That’s in question. That’s
[2:49:40] basically on the called the
[2:49:41] North West side of the
[2:49:42] property. Staff had look at
[2:49:49] and pretty agreed with their
[2:49:50] findings. Pull out what was
[2:49:53] really locking. There was an
[2:49:54] overall rating of the tree. I
[2:49:56] found the trees generally what
[2:50:00] I would consider fair
[2:50:03] condition. It definitely house
[2:50:03] significant amount decline.
[2:50:07] The staff and really kind of
[2:50:09] indicated that they felt that was related to the recent
[2:50:11] droughts that we’ve had. I
[2:50:11] think as we all know, that
[2:50:14] honor drought conditions for a
[2:50:16] long time here in Citrus
[2:50:17] County. But more importantly,
[2:50:20] what I found was that the
[2:50:23] trees really being impacted by
[2:50:25] the asphalt. Me could you
[2:50:26] might go see it there. In that
[2:50:28] photo. Is really being
[2:50:31] impacted by the asphalt. It’s
[2:50:32] going. Almost within 5 feet of
[2:50:36] the base of the tree. There’s
[2:50:38] large curling route on that
[2:50:39] side of the tree. You can see
[2:50:41] we’re small asphalt actually
[2:50:43] being lifted. Then you have
[2:50:44] the Jason Building, which is
[2:50:46] also within the drip line and
[2:50:47] tree. In summary. Really what
[2:50:51] I found is a tree that’s great
[2:50:55] condition soon for condition.
[2:50:59] The bigger problem is any kind
[2:51:00] of construction that’s going
[2:51:02] to be done on the site. Just a
[2:51:03] simple process of demolishing
[2:51:07] the building. It’s all point a
[2:51:09] possible everything. My
[2:51:10] thoughts going to do more
[2:51:10] damage to the tree. And based
[2:51:12] on that, you know. To me the
[2:51:17] simpler solution is, you know,
[2:51:18] go ahead and remove that tree
[2:51:19] and really try to focus
[2:51:20] efforts on trying preserve the
[2:51:21] other 2 remain trees that the
[2:51:23] one by the car wash isn’t very
[2:51:25] good condition. I think one in
[2:51:28] the right away. They have
[2:51:30] issues.
[2:51:40] >> Of course, Mister Snow be
[2:51:42] here any any questions you
[2:51:42] have to address is so access
[2:51:44] management. Pull back up the
[2:51:48] power point. Parents. I
[2:51:52] mentioned before there’s 3
[2:51:53] proposed access Again, I will
[2:51:55] let Mister Carter engineer
[2:51:56] speak to that and more detail.
[2:51:59] There was some comments in the
[2:52:02] staff report about some
[2:52:02] general notes number 2, 3,
[2:52:04] that staff originally was
[2:52:06] concerned with. We have
[2:52:08] removed those notes from the
[2:52:08] plan and that has been
[2:52:09] resolved. So the proposed PD
[2:52:13] is consistent with your
[2:52:14] comprehensive plan as you see
[2:52:15] in your staff report. It is
[2:52:18] consistent with policies.
[2:52:20] 2017.7 in policy. 6017.2, as
[2:52:24] we mentioned before, this is a
[2:52:26] previously developed site.
[2:52:26] There is services that are
[2:52:28] there and readily served the
[2:52:30] site with very minimal
[2:52:31] environmental impacts. That is
[2:52:35] consistent with your land
[2:52:37] development code has to access
[2:52:39] management. All of the
[2:52:41] proposed access points have
[2:52:41] been reviewed and approved by
[2:52:42] the county engineer. Storm
[2:52:45] water will have to comply with
[2:52:47] the requirements in your ldc
[2:52:48] and again Mr. Carter can speak
[2:52:48] to that in more detail. The
[2:52:51] ISR we are requesting the
[2:52:53] deviation to 75%. The FAA are
[2:52:57] again, will be in compliance
[2:52:59] well below the maximum. 1.0
[2:53:03] landscaping buffers. We do
[2:53:05] requests that deviation for
[2:53:06] the south and east buffers to
[2:53:06] 5 feet. The tree preservation
[2:53:12] again to 3 specimen. Trees, of
[2:53:13] course, will be preserved. And
[2:53:16] the one that you heard from Mr
[2:53:17] Style will require removal.
[2:53:21] Parking standards. We will
[2:53:21] meet the IT parking
[2:53:23] justification standards which
[2:53:24] are a permit. under your code.
[2:53:29] Loading We offered at the
[2:53:31] planning Commission was
[2:53:32] concerned about the loading We
[2:53:33] did offer a binding condition
[2:53:34] that loading would take place
[2:53:35] off and after hours. And that
[2:53:38] is the condition of the plan.
[2:53:42] Setbacks have all been Matt
[2:53:44] pedestrian amenities,
[2:53:45] circulation, sidewalks comply
[2:53:47] with the land Development code
[2:53:48] standards as well as signage.
[2:53:51] So with excuse me Concurrency
[2:53:53] as well. As I mentioned
[2:53:55] before. It’s a previously
[2:53:56] developed site. There are
[2:53:57] services available that
[2:53:58] sanitary sewer will be
[2:53:59] provided by the county potable
[2:54:02] water by Homosassa, Special
[2:54:05] Water District and the solid
[2:54:06] waste will utilize commercial
[2:54:07] solid waste in the Citrus
[2:54:08] County Landfill, which we
[2:54:10] submitted a capacity letter
[2:54:10] for. So with that, I have Mr.
[2:54:14] Carter, comma.
[2:54:22] >> Good Evening Commission. My
[2:54:23] name is Troy Carter. I’m a
[2:54:25] professional engineer licensed
[2:54:26] in the state of Florida and
[2:54:26] Texas. My license number is 9
[2:54:27] for 3 on 3. I have been sworn
[2:54:28] for the record. My address for
[2:54:32] the record is 2, 8, 7, 5, 2,
[2:54:33] falling leaves way in Wesley
[2:54:33] Chapel. And I have a
[2:54:35] presentation for you tonight.
[2:54:45] Sorry, I skipped ahead on the
[2:54:46] air. so many of my points are
[2:55:01] already covered by members of
[2:55:02] our team. But I’ll just kind
[2:55:03] of hit on a couple of key
[2:55:04] points about how this site is
[2:55:06] constrained. One of the things
[2:55:07] that’s a typical about this
[2:55:08] site is exported by right away
[2:55:08] on all 4 sides. So you’re
[2:55:11] going to have stringent
[2:55:12] requirements in terms of
[2:55:12] setbacks in terms of buffers.
[2:55:13] The site’s only an acre and a
[2:55:16] half. One of the questions
[2:55:18] that came up at the PDC What
[2:55:19] what’s going on out there
[2:55:20] today? There’s about 15,000
[2:55:21] square feet of commercial out
[2:55:23] there today. We’re only
[2:55:23] proposing 5,000. We got some
[2:55:27] great feedback from the PTC.
[2:55:28] And since then we’ve met with
[2:55:29] staff, including the
[2:55:30] Department of Public Works.
[2:55:30] The county engineer Joanne and
[2:55:32] her team. And so we’ve kind of
[2:55:34] put together some more
[2:55:35] information, hopefully get out
[2:55:35] in front of your questions
[2:55:38] kind of run through. Those now
[2:55:38] has learned a 2 parking and
[2:55:41] the impervious surface ratio,
[2:55:42] we kind of look at those as
[2:55:44] being one issue because the
[2:55:45] more parking I have more, I
[2:55:47] drive out that impervious
[2:55:49] surface ratio, your code does
[2:55:51] allow parking study to be
[2:55:52] submitted and must follow Ite,
[2:55:52] which is the institue of
[2:55:56] transportation engineers.
[2:55:56] That’s kind of the governing
[2:55:57] body of all things traffic. So
[2:56:00] we did a traffic study. We
[2:56:01] came out with 55 spaces
[2:56:03] required. We are proposing 59
[2:56:05] on our current concept plan
[2:56:08] and we’re asking the
[2:56:09] condition, read 55 to allow
[2:56:11] for some flexibility when we
[2:56:12] move into design here. Why do
[2:56:15] we think 55 spaces works give
[2:56:18] you a few reasons. One, we
[2:56:19] believe that these uses are
[2:56:19] actually going to be
[2:56:20] complementary to each other.
[2:56:21] So you’re talking about a
[2:56:23] coffee shop where their peak
[2:56:25] hours really going to be
[2:56:26] morning traffic rights on
[2:56:26] tropics. Going to come in.
[2:56:28] That business is also going to
[2:56:29] be very vehicular oriented.
[2:56:31] They estimate about 80% of
[2:56:32] their customers stand their
[2:56:33] vehicle and go through the
[2:56:35] drive-thru. That’s why we have
[2:56:35] such excessive queuing on the
[2:56:36] coffee shop side. Where has
[2:56:39] the Chipotle? They’re going to
[2:56:41] have peak hours in the
[2:56:41] afternoon early evening. So
[2:56:44] those uses are going to
[2:56:44] overlap with each other.
[2:56:48] Chipotle uses. Lauren
[2:56:48] mentioned they’re using this
[2:56:49] new Chipotle in concept, which
[2:56:50] is mobile order only so
[2:56:52] everything is ordered and paid
[2:56:52] for out of time. And you just
[2:56:54] pick up so they will be more
[2:56:56] parking intensive because
[2:56:57] we’re off kilter from each
[2:56:58] other. They’re complementary
[2:56:59] uses. We didn’t take any
[2:57:00] additional credits for, you
[2:57:01] know, I shared study for the
[2:57:05] bicycle parking. Those are
[2:57:06] things that are just required
[2:57:06] by code. But we are providing
[2:57:07] and meeting all of those
[2:57:09] criteria. The other thing to
[2:57:10] consider is that these are
[2:57:11] major national brands. They
[2:57:14] are very in tune with amount
[2:57:15] of parking. They didn’t
[2:57:15] they’re not going to make that
[2:57:16] kind of financial commitment
[2:57:17] to a site. They feel like they
[2:57:18] don’t have the parking. These
[2:57:21] are not essential uses. We’re
[2:57:22] not talking about hospitals or
[2:57:23] anything like that. I know a
[2:57:24] cup of coffee can feel like an
[2:57:25] emergency sometimes. But
[2:57:28] you’re driving down the road
[2:57:30] the morning. You can get a
[2:57:30] stop here. You’re going to go
[2:57:31] another block down the road
[2:57:31] and find somewhere else to get
[2:57:32] your coffee. So we feel very
[2:57:34] confident in the parking that
[2:57:35] we’re providing. And again,
[2:57:38] that report lane concept. we
[2:57:39] have to explain that a lot
[2:57:39] because it’s such a new idea.
[2:57:43] We are providing the 14 per
[2:57:44] DIA spaces. As Lauren
[2:57:46] mentioned, that was just an
[2:57:48] effort to try to meet the
[2:57:48] closer to that 70% number. And
[2:57:51] the GNC, the Citrus County
[2:57:52] code does not allow for that.
[2:57:53] Even though it’s brought up at
[2:57:54] the peace PC. But if you were
[2:57:57] to account for that, that puts
[2:57:58] us at 70.3% impervious Just a
[2:58:01] hair over. If we actually
[2:58:02] consider that being into the
[2:58:03] equation and again, we want to
[2:58:06] provide the appropriate amount
[2:58:08] of parking. There’s no point
[2:58:08] putting too much excess
[2:58:10] parking on there. We’re going
[2:58:11] to increase storm water runoff
[2:58:15] create other issues and want
[2:58:16] act on infrastructure that’s
[2:58:16] already out there. access
[2:58:21] members with this is first
[2:58:21] light is kind like a global
[2:58:23] view. As already mentioned,
[2:58:25] there’s 7 access points out
[2:58:27] there today. It’s kind of a
[2:58:28] wild west in terms of access.
[2:58:28] It’s very unsafe. Not only do
[2:58:32] none of those meet standards,
[2:58:33] spacing criteria, they’re also
[2:58:34] kind of geometrically ball, I
[2:58:38] guess is the way I would
[2:58:39] describe them that are just
[2:58:39] create a lot of unsafe
[2:58:40] conditions. Myanmar to wider,
[2:58:42] too narrow. And so we feel
[2:58:43] that we’re really improving
[2:58:44] the overall scenario. We are
[2:58:46] proposing 3 total access
[2:58:47] points, which are going to be
[2:58:48] the 2 full access is and the
[2:58:51] one restricted riding right
[2:58:52] out Homosassa Trail. That was
[2:58:55] when we spent the most time
[2:58:56] talking about. And again,
[2:58:57] we’ve had several meetings
[2:58:58] with the county Engineering
[2:58:59] Department of Public works
[2:59:00] about this access on Homosassa
[2:59:01] Trail, how to make this as
[2:59:01] safe as possible and what we
[2:59:03] really kind of settled on as
[2:59:04] we’re just going to throw the
[2:59:05] whole book out. So we are
[2:59:08] proposing physical constraints
[2:59:08] by race meeting within the
[2:59:10] right away. We’re also going
[2:59:12] to have a raised median within
[2:59:13] our driveway. What we
[2:59:14] sometimes refer to as a pork
[2:59:15] Chop island to try to channel
[2:59:16] vehicles in and out and we
[2:59:18] will have signage and
[2:59:20] striping. So we’re doing
[2:59:21] everything we can to make sure
[2:59:22] that this is a limited riding
[2:59:22] right out access. Landscape
[2:59:27] that we talked about. The
[2:59:28] targeted relief I mentioned
[2:59:29] before. You’re bored by right
[2:59:30] away on all 4 sides. So we
[2:59:31] took note from the previous PD
[2:59:34] and said, hey, let’s put the
[2:59:35] 10 foot landscape, buffer wits
[2:59:37] on the major thoroughfares
[2:59:38] will go down to 5 feet on the
[2:59:39] side. Streets. But we are not
[2:59:41] asking too reduce the amount
[2:59:43] of plantings or anything like
[2:59:44] that. We’re just really asking
[2:59:45] to reduce the with. We have
[2:59:49] the street tree canopy on the
[2:59:50] east side. Again, this started
[2:59:52] been alluded to are not
[2:59:53] opposing to remove any of
[2:59:55] those trees. You maintain that
[2:59:56] historic canopy corridor
[2:59:56] that’s required by code.
[3:00:01] Specimen tree. I can talk
[3:00:02] briefly about some of
[3:00:03] engineering issues that we’re
[3:00:04] going impacting that Rihanna.
[3:00:06] John talked about the health
[3:00:06] of the tree and what’s going
[3:00:07] on. But this site is located
[3:00:09] within a coastal flood plain.
[3:00:10] We are going to have to
[3:00:12] elevate the site. We will be
[3:00:13] meeting all of your code fled
[3:00:15] code criteria as outlined in
[3:00:16] the Land Development code. But
[3:00:19] we are going to have to raise
[3:00:20] the site and we estimate
[3:00:21] there’s going to be about 2
[3:00:21] and a half feet of fill that
[3:00:22] tree stands today. You can’t
[3:00:24] put that kind of fell over a
[3:00:26] tree. Additionally, as John
[3:00:27] already mentioned, with the
[3:00:28] demo being very close, its,
[3:00:30] it’s just no possible way to
[3:00:31] say that if you see where it
[3:00:32] leads, insight, geometrically,
[3:00:33] it can’t be designed around.
[3:00:37] Regional drainage was brought
[3:00:38] up a little bit at the PDC.
[3:00:39] Saw touched briefly on not
[3:00:41] everything drains from east to
[3:00:42] West direction and it’s
[3:00:43] collected into an FDOT storm
[3:00:45] sewer system that storm sewer
[3:00:46] system routes south the Holes
[3:00:48] River Road west, down Holes
[3:00:50] River Road and it ends up in a
[3:00:51] triple pond system behind the
[3:00:54] Publix DOT just finished
[3:00:56] working on this. But this was
[3:00:57] regional study was done in
[3:00:58] 2014, very recent there should
[3:01:00] be sufficient capacity and
[3:01:01] everything was accounted for
[3:01:02] as it stands today as our side
[3:01:06] is concerned, we do already
[3:01:07] have our swiftmud permit. We
[3:01:07] were a tremendous exemption.
[3:01:10] We will be looking at that
[3:01:11] criteria with your code. I
[3:01:13] know that’s really going to
[3:01:14] matter because we’re going to
[3:01:15] have to make a dream that
[3:01:15] connection directly to the DOT
[3:01:17] storm sewer, which means we’re
[3:01:18] going to be open to their full
[3:01:21] kit and caboodle of I think
[3:01:22] it’s 36 to 42 storm
[3:01:23] evaluation. So we anticipate
[3:01:24] putting in underground system
[3:01:27] similar to what the commercial
[3:01:29] side to the north of us did
[3:01:30] when they developed the
[3:01:30] racetrac gas station. So happy
[3:01:31] to answer any questions. I
[3:01:35] know it was mentioned a lot of
[3:01:36] the PC. The site is a bit of
[3:01:37] an eyesore. My client is and
[3:01:39] just to be development, I
[3:01:39] think what we’re putting
[3:01:40] forward today it’s a happy
[3:01:42] compromise for everyone. Or do
[3:01:45] you have any questions?
[3:01:47] Commissioner Davis, just the
[3:01:47] curious sort.
[3:01:49] >> Please.
[3:01:49] >> I’m fascinated by the whole
[3:01:54] pervious tiles with his help her be us or they compare
[3:01:56] to like a grid system with
[3:01:59] large granite or grass or you
[3:02:00] know, if you. Different
[3:02:04] agencies would look at it
[3:02:05] differently. I would say.
[3:02:06] >> It’s a cross now.
[3:02:08] Absolutely not. There is some,
[3:02:10] you know, structural component
[3:02:12] to it. Welcome to comes down
[3:02:13] to how well as it maintained
[3:02:16] and that’s kind of where you
[3:02:17] see the issues with the
[3:02:17] system’s. I’m a big fan of
[3:02:19] previous papers because they
[3:02:21] open space component of think
[3:02:22] of like the hexagon that you
[3:02:23] typically would see, maybe
[3:02:24] even hardware store. There are
[3:02:27] more advanced systems. Now,
[3:02:29] previous household, I’ve seen
[3:02:30] them. They function phenomenal
[3:02:31] and a testing system. But this
[3:02:34] year and into overtime as
[3:02:35] they’re not well maintained,
[3:02:37] actually more difficult to
[3:02:37] maintain, where’s the papers
[3:02:38] can come up and go back down?
[3:02:40] If I had to rate probably
[3:02:40] split the difference on runoff
[3:02:43] between a grass than a pay
[3:02:44] service. Just curious, of
[3:02:47] course, any other questions.
[3:02:51] Commissioner Bear.
[3:02:51] >> You’re not going to use
[3:02:52] River Rock. River Rock.
[3:02:56] >> No man. That was not. My
[3:02:57] plan is not what you were
[3:02:58] thinking terms of the previous
[3:03:00] favor. We will never walk the
[3:03:00] pervious. In other words.
[3:03:01] >> I’ve seen River Rock and
[3:03:04] River Act really works good.
[3:03:06] That drains it drains. And at
[3:03:07] that corner. There’s a lot of
[3:03:11] water. Yes, I completely agree
[3:03:13] with the RiverWalk in terms
[3:03:14] of, you know, I was going to
[3:03:15] put something down that I
[3:03:17] really want you know, high porosity. That’s gonna
[3:03:18] something water right there.
[3:03:19] Definitely river up.
[3:03:21] >> I don’t believe the ldc
[3:03:21] would allow for parking on
[3:03:22] River Rock.
[3:03:25] >> Liver out these driveways.
[3:03:28] On a private residential.
[3:03:30] Absolutely. I I’m sure they
[3:03:31] could allow that. But on a
[3:03:32] commercial parking area, I
[3:03:32] don’t believe that that’s
[3:03:33] allowed per code.
[3:03:37] >> Commissioner Base. Hi,
[3:03:41] great plan. Couple things.
[3:03:45] particularly interested in
[3:03:45] your landscape plan. You have
[3:03:47] a
[3:03:49] >> for great river. Birch 9
[3:03:53] Longleaf Pine. 7 Live oak and
[3:03:58] taint 10. We help winged elm
[3:04:02] the wind down and the river
[3:04:03] birch are both very deciduous
[3:04:04] center and I think what
[3:04:08] listening to. Our residents,
[3:04:14] our constituents, the I don’t
[3:04:18] know if there would be a
[3:04:21] consideration. There. Maybe
[3:04:22] put live oaks and reduced down
[3:04:25] those so that you get that
[3:04:25] true because you’re calling
[3:04:28] the canopy and maybe just
[3:04:30] upscale the size, the the
[3:04:32] diameter of as opposed to
[3:04:35] putting container plant in.
[3:04:36] Maybe you put a 3 inch caliber
[3:04:36] put less. Canopies trees and
[3:04:42] but goes with something that
[3:04:43] you have more significance.
[3:04:48] Right off the bat. So that was
[3:04:49] the wing. And then what else?
[3:04:51] I’m sorry. You have the wing
[3:04:53] elm and you have the river.
[3:04:55] Birch River birch are pretty,
[3:04:56] but they’re both deciduous got
[3:04:57] so during, you know, come
[3:05:00] fall, you’re not going to have
[3:05:01] any leaves until early spring.
[3:05:04] Again. So our landscape we’re
[3:05:06] happy to make any
[3:05:07] modifications are landscape.
[3:05:08] Plan was prepared by a
[3:05:08] landscape architect. I’m not a
[3:05:10] landscape architect.
[3:05:11] >> I defer to them and those
[3:05:12] matters. I assume from what I
[3:05:14] little bit. I know it’s they
[3:05:15] have to certain diversity
[3:05:17] criteria as outlined in DC and
[3:05:18] they made the selections based
[3:05:21] on their experience. But
[3:05:21] perhaps we could. Structured
[3:05:25] such that at that time we can
[3:05:25] work with staff to do.
[3:05:27] >> I think what happens is
[3:05:28] many times we when new
[3:05:29] developments come in, they put
[3:05:32] container product in. It takes
[3:05:35] forever to look like it’s
[3:05:37] mature and half the time. It’s
[3:05:39] dying before it ever takes
[3:05:39] off. And I think if you put
[3:05:43] less product in but better
[3:05:45] quality product at the get-go.
[3:05:46] I think it has a better
[3:05:47] outcome and I think it’s more
[3:05:47] what? What the community is
[3:05:51] looking for. I think they want
[3:05:52] something that has the look
[3:05:53] of. It’s established. I
[3:05:57] definitely be open to that. We
[3:05:57] can work with joy out of best
[3:05:58] condition, not so that we use
[3:05:59] more established trees.
[3:06:01] >> As long as we’re getting
[3:06:02] the same criteria mitigation,
[3:06:02] I don’t think it makes much of
[3:06:03] a difference to us.
[3:06:06] >> Yeah, I mean, you know, you
[3:06:07] have the it like if you
[3:06:09] Holly’s or something, that keeps the.
[3:06:15] Consistency. Well, you know,
[3:06:17] during fall might do that,
[3:06:19] you’re not sitting there with
[3:06:19] the stick, Mr. And crape
[3:06:24] myrtle. So you call 5 One of
[3:06:26] snow pokes out of it.
[3:06:29] >> Anyone questions. just I
[3:06:32] will say this just. So when
[3:06:36] you talk about the impervious,
[3:06:37] are you talking about the
[3:06:38] honeycomb with the rock in it
[3:06:41] or you’re just as this is just
[3:06:42] a tile like a tile that’s
[3:06:46] previous. It’s a paver block.
[3:06:47] So it’s it’s kind of like they
[3:06:47] went together their a college
[3:06:49] shape.
[3:06:51] >> And then they have grass in
[3:06:52] between. So it’s like a
[3:06:53] pervious surface previous
[3:06:54] parking. So it has some
[3:06:55] structural component. So that
[3:06:57] will last. But it does allow
[3:06:58] water to percolate through.
[3:06:59] And I love that. That’s great.
[3:07:01] And I love and I’m totally on
[3:07:04] board with 55 parking spaces.
[3:07:11] Let’s get to.
[3:07:26] Okay. That’s a
[3:07:32] tried to add address as they
[3:07:33] go conditions of approval that
[3:07:34] are being recommended by the
[3:07:37] PC. You can refer to the
[3:07:38] ordinance rather than the
[3:07:38] staff report of the ordinance.
[3:07:42] >> does reflect some of the
[3:07:43] last minute things that they
[3:07:43] submitted. So that starts on
[3:07:45] Page 3.72 of your packet
[3:07:46] rather than the conditions and
[3:07:47] the staff report. So this
[3:07:51] site, you’ve seen it. You’ve
[3:07:52] all seen this on state old
[3:07:54] State Farm property on 19.
[3:07:55] It’s about one and a half
[3:07:56] acres. And yes, it is
[3:07:57] crumbling there. Elect, have
[3:07:58] you want to call it? There’s
[3:08:00] no apparent storm wider. It is
[3:08:01] surrounded on 4 sides by road
[3:08:02] way. It is. It does have an
[3:08:07] expired pods. So you heard
[3:08:08] some references to what they
[3:08:10] were previously approved for.
[3:08:11] That’s not currently in effect
[3:08:12] because the has expired since
[3:08:14] that time. But they are asking
[3:08:15] for some of the deviations
[3:08:16] that were approved previously.
[3:08:20] So this is their stat. This is
[3:08:23] the site I’ll tell you that
[3:08:24] this applicant started as a
[3:08:27] very big algae. And SIU says
[3:08:28] we’re going to move However,
[3:08:30] we want. And they’ve done a
[3:08:32] really good job, tightening it
[3:08:32] up. So I do compliment them on
[3:08:34] that. It’s now to the point of
[3:08:37] the condition is a quick
[3:08:38] service restaurant with
[3:08:39] online. Pick it up, pick up
[3:08:40] window and a coffee shop with
[3:08:42] drive-thru. And we have this.
[3:08:43] started this particular plan.
[3:08:46] We do a lot of time. Seymour
[3:08:48] landscaping. You saw staffer
[3:08:49] you saw in them presentation.
[3:08:52] But you don’t see than this.
[3:08:54] You’re not being asked to
[3:08:54] consider those detailed plans.
[3:08:55] Just this plan, some of the
[3:08:57] great things that they’re
[3:08:58] doing here. They are removing
[3:09:00] those access points that are
[3:09:00] outlined in blue. There’s a
[3:09:02] lot there. They’re relocating
[3:09:06] awkward act over to the side
[3:09:07] right now. If you drive an
[3:09:07] aqua duck car washes, it’s
[3:09:10] basically pavement about
[3:09:11] halfway pavement. There are 2
[3:09:14] access points Pittsburgh. One
[3:09:14] of those is being removed. The
[3:09:17] big thing is that they want an
[3:09:19] access assess a trail. Now,
[3:09:21] that is huge because the
[3:09:23] previous time would not
[3:09:24] approve that. There is a
[3:09:25] problem with how close it is
[3:09:27] to 19. They worked extensively
[3:09:29] with our public works to try
[3:09:29] to work this out. And you
[3:09:30] heard the testimony from the
[3:09:32] engineer. Our staff is here to
[3:09:34] if you have a specific
[3:09:34] questions about that, but they
[3:09:35] found a way to get them there
[3:09:37] with the right in right now
[3:09:38] with some safety mechanisms.
[3:09:41] So this is one of the 2 access
[3:09:43] points that are in Pittsburgh
[3:09:44] that they’re trying to remove
[3:09:46] pointing out on Pittsburgh.
[3:09:48] This is one of our tree
[3:09:49] maintain canopy areas. So this
[3:09:51] particular roadway, you should
[3:09:51] not be removing any trees
[3:09:52] close to the roadway. So too
[3:09:56] their compliment. They are
[3:09:58] actually keeping one of the
[3:10:00] trees should do that this time
[3:10:01] no matter next slide. This is
[3:10:04] across the street on
[3:10:05] racetrack. This will also come
[3:10:06] up a little bit because the
[3:10:08] access assess a trail is
[3:10:09] across from this particular
[3:10:10] access point. So looking at
[3:10:15] their staff report and
[3:10:16] coloring it in. So some of the
[3:10:16] things that they’re asking
[3:10:18] for, you heard the 75%
[3:10:20] impervious surface. And I
[3:10:20] heard some of you talk about
[3:10:22] how great the paving czar, the
[3:10:23] pavers and pervious pavement.
[3:10:25] Just a caution. The reason we
[3:10:28] don’t expect except those
[3:10:29] anymore is because no one
[3:10:30] maintain them. They always
[3:10:32] were repeatedly repeatedly
[3:10:32] repeat the paid over because
[3:10:35] they’re hard to maintain grass
[3:10:36] grows through Nobody wants to
[3:10:36] keep them up. We saw over and over that they were
[3:10:40] paved the same thing with the
[3:10:41] previous pavement. It’s hard
[3:10:43] to maintain. So people just
[3:10:45] pave over when they when they
[3:10:46] redid their parking lot with
[3:10:48] regular pavement. So it didn’t
[3:10:50] work calculation wise. That’s
[3:10:52] why we don’t accept it as part
[3:10:53] of ISR. It’s not needed there
[3:10:54] just telling you they’re planning on doing it.
[3:10:58] They can. But it’s it’s it’s
[3:11:01] under that 75% impervious
[3:11:02] surface, which the PDC had. No
[3:11:03] problem with 70% their
[3:11:06] maximum. They’re offering to
[3:11:08] do a portion of that. They’re
[3:11:08] still going to need 75%. So I
[3:11:12] have stars on here for the
[3:11:12] specimen trees. There are 2
[3:11:15] on-site originally. They both
[3:11:16] were proposed for removal.
[3:11:18] They were able resist redesign
[3:11:19] and the one to the bottom
[3:11:21] right there. They’re going to
[3:11:22] keep now that is on Pittsburgh
[3:11:24] where our tree canopy area is.
[3:11:25] I’m very happy that that tree
[3:11:27] staying there is one of the
[3:11:29] right way they can actually
[3:11:29] touch either. But that’s
[3:11:31] staying than the one of the
[3:11:32] north side, the PTC that can
[3:11:33] confirm listening to the
[3:11:35] applicant and you see staff
[3:11:37] review and they’re agreeing
[3:11:38] with their arborists man. That
[3:11:39] was unfortunately probably has
[3:11:40] to go. As far as buffers.
[3:11:43] They’re required to have a 10
[3:11:44] foot buffer on all side
[3:11:47] previously in Twenty-twenty
[3:11:47] they had a 5 foot on 2 sides.
[3:11:50] PDC did not support that. They
[3:11:51] felt there was not a
[3:11:53] demonstrated need for the 10
[3:11:56] foot Buffer commissioner base
[3:11:57] points very well taken. It’s
[3:11:59] very important as far as what
[3:12:00] treason, what plantings you
[3:12:00] use that talking to the
[3:12:05] applicant beforehand, they may
[3:12:05] be able to do a 5 foot with a
[3:12:08] Type B, which is a little bit
[3:12:09] more enhanced and we can work
[3:12:11] with them on some of the some
[3:12:12] of the landscaping
[3:12:13] specifically said that its
[3:12:15] year-round foliage, that this
[3:12:15] kind of important, especially
[3:12:16] in Pittsburgh. The applicant
[3:12:22] also proposed the learning
[3:12:23] zone to say loading unloading
[3:12:24] shall occur only in off hours
[3:12:26] for the businesses on sites.
[3:12:27] That was something discussed
[3:12:27] at the PDC. Very happy that one that condition was
[3:12:30] added in there. This is the
[3:12:35] existing tree. They’re going
[3:12:36] to keep on Pittsburgh and you
[3:12:37] can see kind of the canopy
[3:12:38] along Pittsburgh area. This
[3:12:39] car wash will happily
[3:12:40] comedown. And this is some of
[3:12:43] the state park building. This
[3:12:44] is tree that’s actually going
[3:12:44] to be removed. So again, this
[3:12:49] is a staff report. The PDC did
[3:12:50] review this on August, 8th
[3:12:53] Twenty-twenty 6. They had no
[3:12:54] concerns other than the
[3:12:56] reduced buffer. They did not
[3:12:59] like that. They they supported
[3:13:00] the 75% they understood the
[3:13:01] removal of the specimen. Trees
[3:13:05] and the conditions public
[3:13:06] works as far as the access
[3:13:06] point. Or do have any
[3:13:12] questions for could too?
[3:13:17] Commissioner Canard just a
[3:13:18] comment. Thank you for.
[3:13:22] Informing us to why we don’t
[3:13:24] accept sitting up. You’re
[3:13:25] going want to something else
[3:13:27] and so logical them. makes
[3:13:27] perfect sense. Thank you.
[3:13:30] >> Any other questions Would
[3:13:33] it make any difference if? I
[3:13:37] mean, you see it a lot to with
[3:13:38] the honeycomb in the gravel
[3:13:44] fabulously which I wish
[3:13:44] everything west of 19 was
[3:13:45] required to do that. And
[3:13:49] that’s where we saw them back
[3:13:50] it back years ago. And I’m
[3:13:51] sure that engineers can talk
[3:13:52] about it to people just didn’t
[3:13:53] keep them.
[3:13:55] >> So that they they’re hard
[3:13:55] to maintain people that you
[3:13:57] hear the complaints were
[3:13:58] catching her shoes in them.
[3:13:59] That kind of thing. And then
[3:14:01] they would just be paved over.
[3:14:02] So unfortunate. Didn’t say
[3:14:04] Purvis. They look nice in the
[3:14:06] beginning. They look great,
[3:14:06] but they weren’t kept up. And
[3:14:10] we saw over and over so many
[3:14:10] times that were like, forget
[3:14:13] it. Even if they did that to a
[3:14:16] new approve previous year, the
[3:14:16] 75%? It’s covered. So on this
[3:14:18] particular application not
[3:14:19] needed. I get that. It’s not
[3:14:23] needed. But the idea that. I
[3:14:26] agree, but they’re just not
[3:14:27] keeping it. And we don’t go
[3:14:28] out there and inspect. And it
[3:14:29] was a constant as far as storm
[3:14:32] water. That additional
[3:14:32] impervious is a problem
[3:14:35] because their storm water
[3:14:36] didn’t account for that
[3:14:36] because wasn’t part of it. Any
[3:14:40] further questions.
[3:14:44] >> Okay. At this time opening
[3:14:45] up for public comment.
[3:14:47] >> and I do have public works
[3:14:48] here. If you have questions
[3:14:48] for them.
[3:15:00] >> Former number 3 minutes
[3:15:01] unless you have a letter on
[3:15:01] file, keep all. Comments
[3:15:04] directed to need the chairman.
[3:15:12] >> Good afternoon. My name is
[3:15:12] Chuck. Only from Inverness. I
[3:15:19] like to remove the deviation
[3:15:20] of specimen tree. There. It
[3:15:25] ended with a thing to Phillips
[3:15:27] there. she has a report here
[3:15:28] and he’s pretty good. Very
[3:15:29] good to healthy tree. I
[3:15:34] started thinking about wild
[3:15:37] orchids and enormous asset. A
[3:15:37] lot of the Live Oaks have wild
[3:15:39] orchids in there. more than
[3:15:43] 100 native species in Florida,
[3:15:45] 70 of them face threat of
[3:15:49] extension. So I called the
[3:15:52] nature Coast Orchid Society.
[3:15:56] Jeff Frontal we went there to
[3:15:58] that tree. You have been our
[3:16:01] colors. Workers are up on the
[3:16:02] high high high branches we
[3:16:06] could not identify for a
[3:16:09] couple reasons. They’re gone
[3:16:10] to a drought situations for
[3:16:11] the or could may have been
[3:16:12] recluse. They’re not blooming
[3:16:16] right at this particular time.
[3:16:20] So he felt somewhat confident
[3:16:23] that maybe your kids in that
[3:16:23] tree. while I was there with
[3:16:27] Athena. There were 2 dogs that
[3:16:34] flew into that. Tree for
[3:16:35] shade. I later identified
[3:16:38] them. As the night. A dog. And
[3:16:51] they have a primary breeding
[3:16:52] season march through August.
[3:16:54] And they have between one and
[3:16:55] 4 broods the year. So maybe
[3:16:59] the have a nest and that tree.
[3:17:03] Then finally. If there’s going
[3:17:06] to be a Starbucks coffee, put
[3:17:07] there. I know they have a
[3:17:11] corporate environment policy.
[3:17:16] have a shade, canopy,
[3:17:18] preservation to protect and
[3:17:21] maintain exists that existing
[3:17:21] native shade trees, species
[3:17:24] vendor farms and 4. Countries.
[3:17:29] We also have a climate,
[3:17:30] resilient tree distribution
[3:17:33] again on foreign lands. I
[3:17:36] would be a new Starbucks
[3:17:39] customer knowing a certain
[3:17:40] percentage of a cup of coffee
[3:17:41] went to preserve this
[3:17:44] magnificent specimen, libel
[3:17:46] here in Homosassa, Florida.
[3:17:51] It’s I’m speaking for the
[3:17:53] tree. Thank you for coming. So
[3:17:55] thank U next speaker. PJ
[3:18:03] off-camera Citrus County. With
[3:18:05] all due respect to Mr. Snow,
[3:18:07] you know nothing. Jon Snow.
[3:18:10] >> To me, please.
[3:18:12] >> I’m sorry. I’m a big Game
[3:18:13] of Thrones fan. I’m from
[3:18:18] Miami. Coconut Grove,
[3:18:20] specifically and I know for
[3:18:22] fact, the trees like this can
[3:18:24] be Safed. It’s just a matter
[3:18:25] of the will of the property
[3:18:26] owner to do it. My friends,
[3:18:30] Roger Hamer and the former
[3:18:31] president of the Arborists
[3:18:32] Association in Florida. They
[3:18:36] say Hammer, we say Hammer
[3:18:37] worked on quite a few trees
[3:18:37] that were much larger than
[3:18:39] this that were saved. Depend
[3:18:42] similar situations Mr. Snow
[3:18:45] said it’s in fair condition.
[3:18:46] But you know what? We’ve been
[3:18:47] in a drought and kind of fair
[3:18:49] condition, too. I could use
[3:18:49] some rain. They could do it.
[3:18:54] They could save the tree. They
[3:18:57] could read plan and they could
[3:18:58] work around it. This is a tree
[3:19:00] canopy area and putting in
[3:19:02] mitigation no matter what we
[3:19:03] put in. I mean, the stuff that
[3:19:05] they put in that stuff, going
[3:19:06] to dead in the year anyway. I
[3:19:06] mean, you know, that. It’s not
[3:19:09] stuff suitable for living
[3:19:11] there. It’s just not not those
[3:19:12] types of trees. This is your
[3:19:18] chance to insert conditions
[3:19:19] into these applications. If
[3:19:21] you don’t like the pavers in
[3:19:21] just one spot, but in the
[3:19:24] condition that it all needs to
[3:19:25] be those papers. you’re right.
[3:19:28] That’s what you’re here for.
[3:19:32] Going back to the arborist. I
[3:19:33] believe it was Mister Bartman
[3:19:34] us at the PDC mating who said,
[3:19:37] yeah, they’ll bring an
[3:19:38] arborist, the trees dying. We
[3:19:41] can bring in another arborist
[3:19:41] who says it doesn’t. Take
[3:19:45] that. Take that with a grain
[3:19:46] of salt with what they’re
[3:19:47] hearing. They can plan around
[3:19:49] it. My consideration is the
[3:19:53] center median between the 2
[3:19:53] buildings. Looks like there’s
[3:19:54] a median there like to know
[3:19:57] exactly how wide those 2 on
[3:20:01] circulation areas are. They
[3:20:02] don’t look like large enough
[3:20:03] for fire truck or a semi to
[3:20:07] get through. I’d like to know
[3:20:09] the turn radius and what’s
[3:20:11] planned for that or they just
[3:20:11] only allowed to go on the
[3:20:13] outskirts. We did not hear
[3:20:16] about Starbucks and their
[3:20:17] drive-thru windows and exactly
[3:20:19] how they’re going to handle
[3:20:20] that. We know what’s happened
[3:20:21] with Dunkin Donuts all over
[3:20:22] this county expanding out into
[3:20:24] the streets and blocking
[3:20:27] roadways and Homosassa Trail
[3:20:28] in coming years is going to be
[3:20:29] very busy road because we have
[3:20:31] very few roads that go in that
[3:20:32] direction. We need to plan
[3:20:36] properly and do our due
[3:20:38] diligence and, you know, I may
[3:20:39] be nice to mice. Nice looking
[3:20:42] site plan, but needs work.
[3:20:45] Really nice work if we’re
[3:20:46] going to do our best and we’re
[3:20:47] going to have tree canopy. So
[3:20:49] I hope you would consider some
[3:20:51] conditions. I hope you would
[3:20:52] ask them to save the tree used
[3:20:55] papers. It’s very least. And
[3:20:57] that turned area crashing the
[3:20:59] racetrack. How many people we
[3:21:02] know got gas trucks are going
[3:21:03] to get over that. We know it’s
[3:21:05] going to happen. Thank you.
[3:21:08] Next, speaker. Susan Nelson
[3:21:17] Sala guns I love
[3:21:21] accountability and influence.
[3:21:27] And responsibility. And as and
[3:21:27] I think I can’t phone anymore
[3:21:28] love with those particular
[3:21:32] things. However, occasionally
[3:21:34] I do, they become aroused. And
[3:21:38] I fall even deeper. Love with
[3:21:40] And this sounds like a
[3:21:43] wonderful plan because the
[3:21:45] areas already anything. To
[3:21:49] beautify it, which sounds like
[3:21:50] they’re certainly going to
[3:21:53] try. I wanted to have it
[3:21:55] clarified if a tree is taken
[3:21:56] out. Does that mean?
[3:21:57] >> They have give money to
[3:21:58] have a tree built somewhere
[3:22:00] else. And then I hear that
[3:22:01] they’re going to actually
[3:22:03] please build 5. put in 5 or 6
[3:22:08] more trees, which is above and
[3:22:10] beyond with their. With. So
[3:22:13] they get it sounds like a
[3:22:14] wonderful plan. Thank you for
[3:22:16] coming. Next. Speaker. Chris
[3:22:27] Pratt McCanns only 3 months is
[3:22:31] spent.
[3:22:32] >> The issue I have with this,
[3:22:32] I think issue that a lot of
[3:22:33] people have in this community
[3:22:36] people buy property and
[3:22:39] they’re allowed to do with
[3:22:40] their lot to do with For too
[3:22:41] often, we allow them to more
[3:22:42] than lot to do with You know,
[3:22:42] we talk about communities
[3:22:44] throughout this county doing,
[3:22:45] you know. Buy or not do their
[3:22:50] due diligence, you know,
[3:22:51] buying into places that dirt
[3:22:52] roads, things like that and
[3:22:53] really mean leaving them for
[3:22:53] making this purchase is here.
[3:22:55] We have someone purchase
[3:22:56] property. They know what they
[3:22:57] can do with it. Another asking
[3:22:59] for deviations, be on that.
[3:23:00] Otherwise we wouldn’t be here
[3:23:00] today. So the concern you
[3:23:04] know, that’s the deviations
[3:23:05] from trees and things like
[3:23:06] that. We talk about the
[3:23:07] pavers. If remove those papers
[3:23:10] that removes 14 spaces, now
[3:23:11] they’re only down to 45
[3:23:13] parking spaces. They don’t
[3:23:14] meet the Land development
[3:23:14] code. so they’re asking us to
[3:23:15] consider those as parking. the
[3:23:18] question there’s who maintains
[3:23:19] them and what happens when
[3:23:19] they’re longer maintained with
[3:23:22] requirement for them to
[3:23:22] maintain its. And then we have
[3:23:23] issues with those types of
[3:23:25] things. So I would necessarily
[3:23:26] count those as parking spaces
[3:23:28] in their calculations, but
[3:23:29] that’s kind of what they’re
[3:23:29] doing. That looks like for
[3:23:30] that the ordinance as here
[3:23:36] it’s, you know, the
[3:23:36] development shall allow for a
[3:23:37] quick service restaurants with
[3:23:38] online pickup window. What is
[3:23:41] that? The find you know, they
[3:23:42] said is all but that’s not
[3:23:44] tied hold a that can be any
[3:23:46] quick service restaurants.
[3:23:48] McDonald’s is classified as a
[3:23:49] quick service restaurant.
[3:23:49] Burger King Wendy’s, those are
[3:23:50] all classified as quick
[3:23:51] service restaurants. Those
[3:23:52] could be there at that
[3:23:53] intersection. Obviously a
[3:23:55] McDonald’s in those types of
[3:23:56] things need more parking
[3:23:58] spaces. They’re floating the
[3:23:59] idea of these types of things.
[3:23:59] But they’re not tied to that
[3:24:01] development. So has approved
[3:24:03] this year proving the
[3:24:03] variances for the parking and
[3:24:04] all those types of things for
[3:24:05] whatever they decide to build
[3:24:08] later on. That could be
[3:24:09] Wendy’s or Burger It doesn’t
[3:24:11] have to be that will take your
[3:24:12] the Starbucks are not tied to
[3:24:13] those developments. So kind of
[3:24:14] consider that as well. And
[3:24:17] then again, the impervious
[3:24:18] surface ratio, that something
[3:24:20] group previously. I would
[3:24:22] suggest that we hold them to
[3:24:23] what the land of on the go to.
[3:24:23] So we have a lot of issues
[3:24:24] with flooding adding 5% more
[3:24:27] as a little more A little bit
[3:24:29] more flooding, potential
[3:24:30] things like that. So hold them
[3:24:31] to the 70% of the land on the
[3:24:32] contest. Thank you.
[3:24:33] >> Thank you for a Commons.
[3:24:34] Anyone
[3:24:43] >> Sherry Lynn, when took a
[3:24:44] Beverly Hills I’ve been here a
[3:24:48] long time and there is a lot
[3:24:49] of flooding at that
[3:24:51] intersection and those
[3:24:52] concerned about if he did take
[3:24:52] the tree out the roots
[3:24:55] obviously year pretty far in
[3:24:56] the ground. We already have
[3:24:57] issues with sinkholes and then
[3:25:00] if traffic start backing up
[3:25:02] around the is it going to
[3:25:03] block the fire trucks when
[3:25:03] they go out or is there going
[3:25:06] to be an issue with the
[3:25:07] traffic trying to Lou Brown
[3:25:10] back roads and then we’ve got
[3:25:11] the playground, which doesn’t
[3:25:13] have a sufficient gator around
[3:25:14] it of any kind. I mean, it’s
[3:25:18] just there’s a lot of
[3:25:19] concerning issue because that
[3:25:20] area is some compacted
[3:25:21] already. I would just really
[3:25:23] consider. What what they’re
[3:25:27] asking for.
[3:25:28] >> Thank you for your comments
[3:25:29] next. Speaker. To state money.
[3:25:39] Jennifer Grogan Inverness
[3:25:44] >> I believe the property is
[3:25:45] kind of an eyesore. The way it
[3:25:47] is. And it looks like the are
[3:25:49] jumping through hoops to do
[3:25:50] whatever they can to make what
[3:25:51] they’re trying to do. Work.
[3:25:53] And I think we should try to
[3:25:54] work with him do what we can
[3:25:58] to better that community. The
[3:26:00] community there looks kind of
[3:26:01] rough from hurricanes and and
[3:26:03] it looks like they’re going to
[3:26:05] beautify it if they can save
[3:26:07] the tree. That would be a
[3:26:07] great thing if they can’t,
[3:26:10] they’re willing to do lots of
[3:26:10] other things. And I think we
[3:26:11] need to work with them.
[3:26:15] Everyone’s in business to make
[3:26:16] a profit. But it looks like
[3:26:17] they’re trying to do the right
[3:26:18] thing. I would before that.
[3:26:21] >> Thank you for your comes
[3:26:21] next. Speaker. Anyone else?
[3:26:26] Close the public portion and
[3:26:31] you have any rebuttal to what
[3:26:32] and interest will just give
[3:26:33] in.
[3:26:37] >> No, just quickly, thank you
[3:26:39] all for your time. The propose
[3:26:42] concept plan just to clarify
[3:26:43] was for a proposed landscape
[3:26:45] plan to propose 34 new trees.
[3:26:46] That’s what was proposed on
[3:26:48] there. We would certainly work
[3:26:51] with staff to make sure what
[3:26:52] is submitted is appropriate.
[3:26:53] And we’ve heard your comments
[3:26:55] and concerns and would make
[3:26:56] sure to accommodate as
[3:26:57] appropriately. So.
[3:27:03] >> A board and I’m usually
[3:27:04] last being the chair. But
[3:27:05] since it’s my district and I
[3:27:07] don’t know that I’ve ever
[3:27:08] lived closer to anything
[3:27:12] that’s been out there. There’s
[3:27:14] a few things that was said one
[3:27:15] that intersection floods all
[3:27:16] the time.
[3:27:17] >> No, it doesn’t. I have to
[3:27:20] take different ways from my
[3:27:21] house when we have floods. And
[3:27:22] that’s that’s A safe zone.
[3:27:26] It’s a very unique piece of
[3:27:27] property. because it’s piece
[3:27:32] of property surrounded by
[3:27:34] wrote a small piece and then
[3:27:36] the old CBS the same way.
[3:27:39] There’s nothing Bennett that
[3:27:40] property for some time.
[3:27:44] Fortunately, CVS was quick to
[3:27:46] follow the people in my
[3:27:49] district have been chomping at
[3:27:51] the bit to get something at
[3:27:53] that property I mean, you all
[3:27:58] set up here in the people
[3:28:00] watching know I have may be a
[3:28:01] little slower in certain
[3:28:02] developments. Certainly the
[3:28:02] one wanting to preserve
[3:28:04] treason, trying to get
[3:28:06] ordinances and development.
[3:28:07] But I think to keep what
[3:28:08] they’re keeping implant, but
[3:28:10] they’re planting is far of an
[3:28:11] improvement. There’s storm
[3:28:14] water planned there. When I
[3:28:16] hear that, that that’s going
[3:28:17] to be wonderful for the area,
[3:28:19] not about this property. Just
[3:28:22] want to let you know, because
[3:28:24] people were complaining a lot
[3:28:24] from the CBS and being the
[3:28:27] kind person that I am when
[3:28:30] they.
[3:28:31] >> They had a for sale lease
[3:28:32] sign the property management
[3:28:34] person at not this property.
[3:28:35] The one next door had a sign.
[3:28:36] I called in. So if you know
[3:28:39] you’re probably looks
[3:28:42] terrible. This property, at
[3:28:43] least it’s been mowed kept up
[3:28:46] with what can I do to help?
[3:28:46] You’re obviously not from this
[3:28:48] area. We need to keep this
[3:28:50] looking better. All my
[3:28:51] constituents are complaining
[3:28:53] and it was like, wow, no one
[3:28:54] across the state ever calls
[3:28:56] its own eyes. Something
[3:28:56] government looking out for us
[3:28:58] a month later, reach back out.
[3:29:02] And I said, how much more time
[3:29:02] do you need a really in me
[3:29:03] that cleaned up? And then I
[3:29:06] just gotten nastier fall and
[3:29:08] it was nobody wants to be
[3:29:09] there. your boards fault. You
[3:29:13] all won’t allow storage unit
[3:29:14] or a car wash there. And
[3:29:16] that’s all that people want to
[3:29:17] come assess at. What do you
[3:29:19] think you’re getting?
[3:29:20] Certainly it’s not going to be
[3:29:23] a Fleming’s. And I well, no,
[3:29:24] sir, I imagine Fleming’s would
[3:29:24] want to come to that spot him
[3:29:26] SAS a but oddly enough, I
[3:29:30] said, but maybe a Starbucks
[3:29:32] would or or maybe a
[3:29:34] Chick-Fil-A or something that
[3:29:34] the people of Citrus County
[3:29:35] could enjoy. Improvement to
[3:29:40] this property is exciting to
[3:29:40] the people in Homosassa we’ve
[3:29:44] been talking about long before
[3:29:45] it shook out. I think a Dunkin
[3:29:47] Donuts was talked about before
[3:29:51] graffiti is coming into that
[3:29:53] area. Some vagrants are coming
[3:29:54] into that area and when we
[3:29:57] start making that I’ll call it
[3:29:59] the heart of home assassin.
[3:30:01] Nice. And this is a good first
[3:30:04] step. That’s exciting. We we
[3:30:05] can’t leave that part of our
[3:30:07] county. Go to waste in and now
[3:30:08] is the time I know there are
[3:30:12] some complaints about some
[3:30:12] years ago about the 7.11,
[3:30:16] which was allowed, not not
[3:30:17] that this board did anything
[3:30:17] special to allow it. But I’ll
[3:30:21] tell you what it replaced
[3:30:24] helped that quarter immense
[3:30:25] lay. This is the heart of
[3:30:26] Homosassa. And after hearing
[3:30:30] the applicant’s testimony and
[3:30:31] after hearing the county’s
[3:30:33] testimony researching the
[3:30:35] backup material, I’m going to
[3:30:36] be in full favor of this as my
[3:30:39] constituents would want me
[3:30:39] today. Commissioner have a
[3:30:43] question. You said they can’t
[3:30:47] use River Rock. For parking.
[3:30:52] Instead of putting what they
[3:30:53] want to put down.
[3:30:56] >> They were they were going
[3:30:56] to put 14 parking spaces. You
[3:30:58] can’t park on River rock
[3:31:00] because River rock drains very
[3:31:01] nicely. Because in my other
[3:31:06] option, is you’ve got hear
[3:31:07] about they have to figure that
[3:31:07] was with the bicycle parking.
[3:31:12] Why not to get those 14 for
[3:31:12] debt for the bicycle and then
[3:31:13] you could put River rock. It
[3:31:15] would rain very nicely. And I
[3:31:19] got a call at this. What I
[3:31:20] want to find out, right? So
[3:31:20] looking back at the
[3:31:22] engineering staff to interact
[3:31:23] is not one of those items that
[3:31:23] are generally considered.
[3:31:27] >> As in per as per
[3:31:28] impervious, which is you have
[3:31:28] to have paved parking. And
[3:31:30] that generally is not either
[3:31:32] because it doesn’t it doesn’t
[3:31:34] support the parking that
[3:31:35] might. It’s not. I agree is
[3:31:38] pretty. But again, it’s a
[3:31:40] maintenance thing. And so
[3:31:41] that’s not one of the items
[3:31:42] that, you know, I like shows a
[3:31:43] look awesome. But they’re not.
[3:31:46] If they don’t support
[3:31:47] necessarily that the traffic
[3:31:49] that it’s going to need and
[3:31:50] they have to be maintained.
[3:31:51] And that’s been our problem.
[3:31:52] So generally paved parking is
[3:31:54] the alternative. There is
[3:31:56] turn. Those is like a type of
[3:31:57] stone that that can be used
[3:31:59] for parking. But again, it’s
[3:32:01] treated as impervious and not
[3:32:04] previous. So I appreciate your question. I just don’t
[3:32:05] think it helps the situation
[3:32:06] as far as storm water. They’re
[3:32:08] still going to 75%. don’t like
[3:32:12] 75%. But I do like the plan
[3:32:13] that they have. They’ve come
[3:32:16] up with for everything else.
[3:32:18] So the thing is. Everything
[3:32:22] else is the way it’s first be
[3:32:23] I guess we should move
[3:32:23] forward. I just think
[3:32:28] clarification on the buffer.
[3:32:29] The 5 foot versus 10 foot. If
[3:32:30] you support that or not. Madam
[3:32:33] Chair, you,
[3:32:36] >> I’d like to make a motion
[3:32:36] that we approve. The dash 2,
[3:32:42] 0, 2, 6, Dash, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4,
[3:32:45] >> With the deviations of
[3:32:46] allowing 75%.
[3:32:50] >> ISR.
[3:32:51] >> The 5 foot buffers on the
[3:32:52] south and east side.
[3:32:54] >> Tight be buffers and
[3:32:57] replace the deciduous trees
[3:33:00] that are outlined in the plan
[3:33:01] with Oaks. a 55 parking
[3:33:05] spaces.
[3:33:11] >> I’m fine with what you
[3:33:12] said. But there’s no way you
[3:33:12] can replace if you upscale the
[3:33:16] caliber of the oak tree. You
[3:33:17] can have that may be a hoax.
[3:33:20] Can we change it like they?
[3:33:20] will just work with
[3:33:21] staff. Change. Okay. I have a
[3:33:28] >> motion by commissioner
[3:33:28] Canard second by Commissioner
[3:33:31] Davis. All those in favor. any
[3:33:33] opposed motion carries 5, 0.
[3:33:35] Congratulations and thank you.
[3:33:41] never be able to see the
[3:33:45] place.
[3:33:46] >> A 34 law panel.
[3:33:54] >> 6.15, this meeting’s