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welcome vice mayor and council members I

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call the special meeting of the Albany

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city council for March 25th 2024 to

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order the city of Albany recognizes that

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we occupy the land originally protected

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by The confederated Villages of lesan we

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acknowledge the genocide that took place

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on these lands and must make strides to

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repay the moral debt that is owed to

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this indigenous people specifically the

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aloney

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tribe we thank them for their

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contributions which have transformed our

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community and will continue to bring

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forth growth and unity the city of

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Albany commits to sustaining ongoing

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relationships with the tribe and

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together build a better future for all

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that now make this their

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home city clerk will you please call

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Ro council member canel Romero is absent

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um council member Jordan here council

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member tman here vice mayor Lopez here

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mayor Micky

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here apologies I will be

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um taking off and putting on a mask uh

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today I'm getting over a little bit of a

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cold um wanted to start off with u some

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Quorum guidelines for the meeting today

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uh we understand today's agenda is of

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particular concern to members of Albany

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and the largest Community we live in the

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council shares this concern with you we

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are pleased that you've joined us this

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evening to comment on this matter in

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order to work collaboratively we ask

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that all community members be respectful

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time lotted to the public comment will

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be based on the number of people wishing

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to speak and time limited for each

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speaker will be

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maintained please note disruptions to

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the meeting will not be

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tolerated moving on to the sole item on

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our agenda today item 3-1 resolution

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calling for a bilateral ceasefire in

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Gaza

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um for those who have not seen there's

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uh in the back of the room there's the

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agenda an attached memorandum and the

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actual uh ceasefire resolution as

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brought forward by the ad hoc committee

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I want to thank uh council member tan

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for working with me and meeting with

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various conses over the past few weeks

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through our meetings with Community

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groups leaders and interested

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residents um we have gotten to really um

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learn uh each person's lived experience

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um and really truly appreciate the time

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that you have spent with us um in all

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the committee held over a dozen meetings

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with interested parties from all sides

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of the

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issue um and with that I'll hand it over

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to our council member tan sure thank you

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mayor uh I'll just Echo some of what the

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mayor said and first thank him for his

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cooperation and working with me on this

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this process would have been uh much

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more difficult without his cooperation

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and is a credit to our city council um

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also I want to reiterate his thanks to

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everyone we met with uh the vast

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majority of those meetings were

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instigated by people Conta contacting us

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because they were interested and wanted

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to talk to and the vast majority were

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also Albany residents so I appreciate

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everybody taking the time to meet with

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us we took something valuable away from

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nearly every one of those meetings

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um if you have not read the resolution

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or the memo I encourage everybody to

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take a look uh the I uh in the memo we

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try and spell out the goals that uh the

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mayor and I agreed on in wanting to do

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this and what we were trying to address

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and I think those inform a lot of what

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we chose to focus on and and how we

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chose to do it um for the council and

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everyone else I'd say there's no perfect

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language to express what we're trying to

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do uh I'm not uh So Vain as to say what

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we have written is perfect um but I will

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say we've thought about just about every

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word long and hard so as I normally do

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as everyone on the council knows I will

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say amending uh writing new language

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from the Das often is very tricky um so

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especially given that comparatively

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small changes in this uh for for this

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item can have big impacts as we learned

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throughout this drafting process um and

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with that I think I will leave the rest

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my comments for a

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I'll turn to um Council and it open up

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for any questions from Council

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Members not seeing any questions from

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Council um I will open up for public

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comment um I would ask those in the

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council chair member who would like to

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speak to make sure that you filled out a

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speaker form and also just so I have a

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sense of the number of speakers if you

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could raise your

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hands okay

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and has everyone had an opportunity to

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fill out a speaker card perfect uh and

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uh city clerk how many

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online um currently six hands currently

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six hands okay um we will um we're going

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to do slightly modified process than

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we've done in the past uh we are going

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to start in the council chambers and uh

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the city clerk will call up five people

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at a time to uh speak at the at the

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podium uh and then uh on the fourth

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person uh she will call the next five so

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that we can people can remain seated as

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long as as as uh until their their group

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of five is called up um with that uh

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city clerk if we could have the first

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up behind the podium please uh I do want

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to also remind everyone that we ask uh

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that all comments be addressed to the

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council and that you refrain from um

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apologies um that you refrain from

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showing your support or dissent uh for

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the current Speaker uh the council wants

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everyone to hear the comments of the

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speaker and for all to feel comfortable

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speaking and not feel intimidated by

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others comments or

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reactions so let me repeat that it's

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Mark last name initial T Robert B Alan M

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M go ahead and approach this

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um um the Israelis after many

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unsuccessful attempts to create

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reconciliation gave the Palestinians

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Gaza Hamas

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used a billion dollars to turn that into

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a modernday holocaust

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machine they invaded Israel murdered

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people raped women

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tied people together with wire strings

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and burn them put babies in microwave

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ovens I think any resolution should call

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for the immediate elimination of of

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Hamas a ceasefire resolution endangers

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the existence of Israel and endangers

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the Jewish people and encourages

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anti-Semitism which I see growing in

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Albany finally the war can be over if

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Hamas surrenders releases the hostages

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com thank you thank you for your

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comments let go

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ahead I thank you for letting me address

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you my name is Susan Meyers I've been a

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citizen uh Berkeley Albany resident for

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45 years um my kids went through the

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school system I've been involved in

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committees that benefited schools and

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also my resident my neighborhood and the

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city and of Albany as well I am so today

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I am here to address you in order to

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achieve a true peace between Israelis

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and gazans there must be a complete

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dismantling and removal of Hamas a US

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designated terrorist organization the

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government of Hamas has vowed to carry

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out barbaric

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atrocities again and again as they

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committed on October 7th murdering men

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women and children beheading babies

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raping women and taking hostages if you

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care about Israelis and Palestinians you

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will include the removal of Hamas from

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power in the resolution let the Israelis

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and Palestinians work together to

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develop Gaza into a thriving region

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Hamas thank you for your

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comments time my time's over yes oh

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sorry thank you

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good good afternoon my name is Jonathan

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minser I'm honored to serve as the

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Director of external relations at the

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Jewish community relations Council the

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largest Collective voice of Bay Area

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Jews representing over 50 synagogues and

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organizations including hundreds of

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Albany residents we have consistently

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advice for local boards to avoid

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resolutions about Foreign Affairs

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because these ex um these efforts

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exacerbate tensions among traumatized

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communities as you will soon see here

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today with the language before you we

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are asking you to amend the resolution

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and make the uncontroversial

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clarification that Hamas must be removed

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from power for a lasting peace for this

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war last month I was in Israel and I

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directly saw the aftermath of hamas's

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barbaric attacks and I also had the hon

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of speaking with residents of all

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background Israeli Jews Arabs

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Palestinians and others they don't agree

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on much but one thing stood out they all

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said that peace is not possible with

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Hamas and Power in fact a new survey

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shows that support for Hamas as a

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political party in Gaza is at its lowest

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levels 34% I'm asking you to align

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Albany with the United States EU UK and

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recognize that true peace is only

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available if Hamas is removed from power

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thank you thank you for your

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comments hello my name is Rob uh I've

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been to the Region 20 times and I want

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to say it's far more complicated and

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different than what the Press portrays

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it as I am opposed to any resolution but

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I want to thank you for all the hard

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work you've done in creating the

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resolution you have I pray every day for

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the well-being of Israelis and also the

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innocent people in Gaza I'm requesting

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that the statement you've made be

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amended to call for the removal of Hamas

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from Power Hamas is a terror

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organization that was behind October 7th

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behind many similar attacks in the past

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and has said it will attack Israel again

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in the future experts in the field

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including former secretaries of State

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condalisa rice and Hillary Clinton has

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said there can be no peace until Hamas

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is removed from Power I would also ask

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that you amend the title of the

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resolution calling for long-term peace

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and security rather than just for a

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ceasefire thank you very much

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first want to thank the council for the

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time and effort it has devoted to this

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issue I respectfully want to point out

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that the title of this resolution is

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currently formulated does a disservice

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to it the title by highlighting only one

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of the multiple goals in the resolution

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in effect says that the other goals are

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secondary it leaves the impression that

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the council would accept a ceasefire

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without the release of hostages it

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similarly relegates the call for peace

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and tolerance within our community to

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the

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Shadows this is the local about which

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local government should be concerned

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first and foremost given the violence

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and ranor we have seen in the East Bay

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towards Jews in summary please

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reconsider the title and make it more

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General so that it is consistent with

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the multiple goals laid out in the text

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and so that it does not distort the

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contents of the resolution thank you

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again for listening and for all your

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work thank you for your

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comments hi I'm darthia Duren we do not

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want you to pass a ceasefire resolution

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of any

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sort uh but since mayor Mickey and Mr

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Tidman decided to present one to the

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city council and the public we wanted to

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present our resolution which I presented

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to you this evening and by email in

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Prior times there are 109 people who

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signed this

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resolution therefore the end of it says

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therefore it be resolved that because

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the city council of Albany is elected by

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all the people of Albany whose interest

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they are required to represent and

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because their Proclamation supporting

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peace and concern for all parties was

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submitted to the public by them we

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demand that they deal with the running

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of the city of Albany for the benefit of

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all of its residents and we demand that

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the city council places undivided

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attention on matters that directly

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impact the city of Albany going forward

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and not utilize any City Suns for

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international matters as you are

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currently doing today we do not think

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that you should omit the removal of

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Kamas and the return of all the hostages

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from this resolution it is you could

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call it a peace resolution instead of a

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cease fire resolution thank you Hamas

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doesn't want

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one thank you for your

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comments thank you my name is Larry

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hendle I'm a member of Jewish voice for

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peace but I'm just speaking as an

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individual uh I support this resolution

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I think it's about as evenhanded in this

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in this world in this context that

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people could have come up with and I

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support the goal of ceasefire nothing

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will happen without a ceasefire yes the

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1,200 people killed October 7th was

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terrible the 30,000 people that have

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been killed since then is also extremely

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terrible you know so much of this debate

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comes to down to people saying who did

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what to whom and who is suffering the

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most that can be a little bit relevant I

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mean history is relevant but history is

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not determinative we are human beings we

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can overcome history that is what how we

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got the progress that we have

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made and suffering is not a zero sum

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game I heard someone say that a rabbi

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actually and I totally believe it I

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support the resolution only with the

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ceasefire will there be enough dialogue

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to bring Justice to the region and to

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stop The Killing thank

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you thank you for your

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comments hi my name is Helen finlin and

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I am Jewish I support this the

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resolution as um this is not our concern

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is not about Hamas or about peace or

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about who did what to whom uh the

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concern here is about a genocide and we

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heard the resolution about our moral

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debt uh to the aloney people because of

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the genocide that happened

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here and this moral debt obligates us to

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be opposed to any genocide and not to

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turn a blind eye to it and so this

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that's what this resolution is

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attempting to do this resolution is to

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intending to stop a genocide that is

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taking place and we have a moral

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obligation to heat to heat it that's why

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I support

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it thank you for your

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comments my name is Rochelle n and um I

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do not support uh the passing of any

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resolution although I would like to say

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I think this is uh significantly

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improved from an earlier uh version that

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that was seen particularly appreciate

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the uh support for self-determination

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for both peoples that and a negotiated

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piece between those self-determined

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determined peoples uh is appreciated

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there are aspects of the resolution such

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as the casualty figures and the passive

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voice used to describe those that are

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deeply hurtful and cruel to uh survivors

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of of these attacks um saying that uh

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people lost their lives uh uh when they

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were in fact attacked and murdered is uh

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is a cruelty that is not really uh

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necessary in this context um in any

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event my time time is up and thank you

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thank you for your comments um after

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faith it would be

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Hagan uh Peter uh last initial b Barry p

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and Francesco p and Sandra

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R ideally Aly should not be making

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foreign policy statements however the

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city seems determined on doing just that

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I appreciate the city council's Earnest

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attempt at creating a resolution that

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acknowledges the pain of both its

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Israeli and Jewish constituency and its

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Palestinian Arab constituency a few

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suggestions to the

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wording on the seventh whereas Israeli

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deaths have continued since October 7th

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this number needs to be updated the

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second be it resolved calls for an

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unconditional release of all civilian

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hostages and would allow the Palestinian

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perpetrators and criminals of October

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7th to go un punish

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this wording also must be changed the

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title of the resolution also needs to be

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modified just yesterday over 50 Rockets

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were launched by Hezbollah into Northern

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Israel hundreds have been launched in

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recent weeks calling for a bilateral

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ceasefire is insufficient please call

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for a real and sustainable peace

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throughout the entire region rather than

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a bilateral ceasefire in Gaza thank you

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for your hard work and the effort you

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have put into this

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issue

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thank you for your

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comments hi there my name is Peter

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burnhard um thank you for meeting with

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me in my group about this um you have my

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email comments um it could be improved

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but I appreciate the work you did and

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this and the stress you're under to do

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something right so I support it um and

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the time I have left I'm just going to

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read a quote here from if Stone

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investigative journalist um who most

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people should know the only kinds of

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fights worth fighting for are those

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you're going to lose because somebody

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has to fight them and lose and lose and

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lose until someday somebody who believes

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as you do

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wins that famous code applies to uh the

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extent we keep protesting keep lobbying

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our Representatives keep supporting with

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whatever you can spare to those groups

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that are taking direct action together

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and in our numbers it's worth everything

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even if you can only point to a sing

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sing Le Victory achieved in this fight

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for peace and Justice thank you thank

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you for your

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comments I too thank the council for the

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many hours and meetings we've had uh

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over this time and understood exactly

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what you're dealing with in coming up

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with a difficult

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decision uh the resolution that I read

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that you came forward with it talks

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about people's pain people's feelings of

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fear and so forth entirely appropriate

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for all of the issues was involved but

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what uh if I can make a critical point

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since I argued it uh many times uh there

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is a fact at the basis of all of this

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and it's really the central fact and it

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was left out and that is uh basically

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that we're dealing with a genocide and a

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genocide that is ongoing and people are

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dying and it is not just name calling it

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is of course the Judgment of the

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international court of justice that made

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an unambiguous

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uh designation of what Israel is doing

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is an ongoing genocide so uh that's what

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we are opposed to that's what we'd like

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to see end and all the other issues can

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go after that

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yes thank you for your

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comments um as a long as as a longtime

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resident of Aly I'm very proud of our

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city for always standing up speaking

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against violence and Injustice by

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passing resolutions such as the one

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passed in 2021 asking our leaders to act

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immediately to help the Afghan people or

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passing declarations such as the one

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read at the beginning of every city

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council meeting acknowledging the

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genocide against the indigenous people

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and not shying away from the word

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genocide as uncomfortable and painful

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that might be today we need to stand up

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one more time and pass a resolution for

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an immediate unconditional and permanent

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ceasefire we need to stand for what is

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the truth we need to face the truth even

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if it will be uncomfortable some for

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some and the truth according to

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International courts of justice and

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almost all the world is that Israel is

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committing plausible

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genocide thank you for your comments

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your Proclamation has no mention of of

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Hama

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the terrorist aggressor who started this

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war with their rampage that included the

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murder of Innocence kidnappings and

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sexual assaults this weekend a terrorist

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attack in Russia by ISIS murdered 130

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defensless Russians at a music venue

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just like hamas's cowardly attack on

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Israel in October 7th you have crafted a

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document that did not require the

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surrender of Hamas who started this

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conflict any ceasefire should include

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the unconditional surrender of the Hamas

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leadership leaving Hamas out of this is

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like talking about World War II and

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admitting any reference to the Nazi

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party this glaring Omission shows a lack

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of moral courage Albany deserves

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better thank you for your comments after

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the speaker it would be itamar L noga A

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Zan

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M and

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Yuko and Amber and for those who just

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arrived if you like to speak tonight

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please fill out public comment card

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speaker card and turn them into me

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please thank

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you okay I'm a 39-year resident of

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Albany and I'm here to speak for the

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over 25,000 women and children who have

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been massacred by the indiscriminate

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bombing of

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Gins and

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I'm here to support a ceased fire so

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that this will end and there can be some

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resolution to this conflict thank you

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thank you for your

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comments hi my name is itamar Lando I'm

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speaking on behalf of the Jewish

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Coalition of Berkeley uh just founded in

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December now have over 350 members at

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least 30 of whom are Albany residents um

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we do thank the subcommittee for a

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heartfelt effort to have people be heard

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um and for an attempt at a balance

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resolution there's a lot of differences

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of opinion as you're hearing tonight

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00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
about who's to blame um as you

559
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
yourselves pointed out maybe the one and

560
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,880
only key point of agreement is that we

561
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,560
all really pray for a long-term peace

562
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,960
and security for all peoples in the

563
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,720
region so I urge you to put that

564
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,000
squarely in the title A sear is nothing

565
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,839
but a tech a tactical aim where both

566
00:35:50,839 --> 00:35:53,640
sides at this point would clearly claim

567
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160
to exploit it to adjust further battle

568
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
um in the best position that they they

569
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,960
can so a truly uh value of the our

570
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680
community is long-term peace and

571
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,720
security finally I urge you to also

572
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,200
clearly condemn the local hate and hat

573
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,640
incidents and violence against the

574
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,720
Jewish community and Israeli Community

575
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,200
here in Albany and ELO thank

576
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,560
you thank you for your

577
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,000
comments hello thank you for your time

578
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,359
now and for meeting with me before I am

579
00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:27,280
an Albany resident homeowner and parent

580
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,240
it is my preference that this city

581
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:31,560
council not pass any resolution on this

582
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,400
matter unless it is going to likewise

583
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440
engage on the Ukraine Russia War Haiti

584
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
or Syria however if you insist on

585
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,079
passing something I ask like other

586
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:43,640
people have spoken before that you

587
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,000
changed the title and remov the word

588
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
ceasefire we have discussed with you and

589
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,040
you understood why the word ceasefire is

590
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,880
particularly triggering for our

591
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,440
community there was a ceasefire on

592
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,079
October 6th and Hamas broke with an

593
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:01,040
unimaginable Massacre please call it a

594
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,760
path to long-term peace and security

595
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,280
also please don't compare innocent

596
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Israeli hostages like f and his

597
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,560
four-year-old brother to convicted

598
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,760
murderers who are sitting in prison for

599
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,599
their crimes their releases are not the

600
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,560
same thank

601
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,550
you thank you for your

602
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
comments okay yeah so thank you again

603
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,760
for this resolution I appreciate the

604
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,359
overall intent of it that there be a

605
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:31,520
ceasefire and that all human lives are

606
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,760
precious but I do want to point out how

607
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,839
the perpetrator is hardly mentioned it

608
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,240
says whereas over 30,000 Palestinians

609
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,640
have perished how did they perish what

610
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,400
happened who is the agent of them

611
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,280
perishing did they just perish in thin

612
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,760
air who is the evildoer who took away

613
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
the lives of so many innocent people so

614
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,880
many innocent children who is

615
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,800
deliberately letting 1 million people

616
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,400
half of whom are children starve to

617
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
death this resolution needs to do more

618
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,680
and explicitly stating who is

619
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,839
responsible for these repulsive crimes

620
00:38:00,839 --> 00:38:02,880
it's the state of Israel founded on its

621
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,839
racist ideology of Zionism who is the

622
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:07,200
evil perpetrator it is Israel who is

623
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,319
committing this genocide it is Israel

624
00:38:09,319 --> 00:38:10,960
who who does not view the life of a

625
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,800
Palestinian as worth living and this

626
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,400
view didn't just formed suddenly after

627
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,560
October 7th and our very own government

628
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,560
here is backing it backing Israel so may

629
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,480
we see a future in which racist leaders

630
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,119
governments and ideologies cease to

631
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,440
exist may we see a free Palestine thank

632
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,040
you

633
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,920
please refrain from

634
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,640
clapping thank you could you includ

635
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,119
hissing Jing in that can you stop the

636
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:39,160
time please sorry um ple please as I

637
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,119
mentioned at the beginning of the

638
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,400
meeting refrain from showing any

639
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,920
supports of support or

640
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,280
um sorry

641
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,760
I'm pleas please those in the audience

642
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,280
please remain silent in all forms I'll

643
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,950
leave it at that

644
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,960
good evening I'm a resident of elero and

645
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,200
I came out here tonight to support or be

646
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,160
here in support and in solidarity with

647
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,960
the many and diverse residents of this

648
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,920
city of Albany who have been calling for

649
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,280
a permanent

650
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,560
ceasefire um and I really urge you to

651
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
pass this resolution despite it being so

652
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,720
little so late um for one it doesn't

653
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:28,079
name the genocide of Palestinians um it

654
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,160
doesn't call for a permanent ceasefire a

655
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,160
lasting

656
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,160
ceasefire uh it also does not name

657
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,520
Israel as an occupying Force um that has

658
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,520
been oppressing Palestinians for many

659
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,119
decades long before October nonetheless

660
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,160
this resolution must pass we must save

661
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,400
lives um even the UN Security Council

662
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,319
finally passed some sort of ceasefire

663
00:39:52,319 --> 00:39:55,520
resolution this morning seiz fire now

664
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,349
thank you thank you for your comments

665
00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:00,880
um after

666
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,040
Amber would

667
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:10,800
be Tamiko P Linda W so s o m a i

668
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,920
a um number three and Sherry

669
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,400
D council members thank you for your

670
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,960
time there can be no peace until there

671
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,560
is a free

672
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,240
Palestine there can be no free Palestine

673
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,599
until there is an end of the

674
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,800
occupation there can be no free

675
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,280
Palestine until there's an end of The

676
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Siege and all of these must start with a

677
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,880
ceasefire keep ceasefire in the

678
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,319
title over the

679
00:40:43,319 --> 00:40:46,520
weekend Faith leaders from

680
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,680
around the Bay Area joined for a

681
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,440
pilgrimage and one of the quotes that I

682
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,760
heard that really stuck with my heart is

683
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
that hope is like a bird singing about

684
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,839
the dawn while it's still dark and that

685
00:40:58,839 --> 00:41:01,119
was in reference to dreaming about a

686
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,440
free South Africa which at one point

687
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,720
seemed

688
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,040
unimaginable and so now I invite those

689
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
who care about free uh Peace and Freedom

690
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,160
to imagine and work for and fight for a

691
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,030
free

692
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,480
Palestine thank you for your

693
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,440
comments hello I'm T Panela I'm Albany

694
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,119
resident um I think in this resolution

695
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:26,880
there are some words that I don't love

696
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,920
and there some words that are U missing

697
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,160
but um overall I do think we should pass

698
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,400
it I think it's right there in the title

699
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,720
ceasefire Stop The Killing um and I hope

700
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:39,960
that you can all shut out all this noise

701
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,520
and focus on that we just want the

702
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,480
killing to

703
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,670
stop thank you for your

704
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,079
comments hi good evening uh thank you

705
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:50,680
for putting the ceire resolution on your

706
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,319
agenda I do order you to call for a

707
00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:53,760
permanent ceasefire an end to the

708
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,800
illegal Israeli occupation and an end to

709
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,119
the genocide today's UN resolution is a

710
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,720
joke it's a twoe pause on on bombing

711
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,440
just so like people can like starve to

712
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,319
death instead um there is an imminent

713
00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:05,800
risk of famine the intentional

714
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,520
starvation of two million people half of

715
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,040
whom are children the Israeli

716
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,760
government's genocidal intent has been

717
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,319
proven by their words and their actions

718
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:14,319
for the past six months fear of a

719
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,319
hypothetical genocide cannot and does

720
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,960
not will never uh justify an actual

721
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920
genocide Palestinians are live streaming

722
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,839
their own ethnic cleansing cleansing um

723
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:26,160
and for every atrocity zionists like to

724
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,400
talk about their thousands of atrocities

725
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,359
being committed by the iof uh forces

726
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:32,720
they're bragging about their atrocities

727
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:34,520
on social media and they're able to do

728
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,520
so with complete imp impunity because

729
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,400
our government does nothing but reward

730
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,280
them with more of our tax dollars I

731
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,200
don't want to be of a generation where

732
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,480
Grand our grandchildren look back with

733
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,880
with puzzlement and shame because we

734
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,800
fail to do what is so obviously right

735
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,119
help our governments um help end our

736
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:52,640
government's fueling of this inhumane

737
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,240
war on children thank you thank you for

738
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:59,040
your's your first name suaya okay so I

739
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,640
need Linda um someone that just put the

740
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,280
number three and

741
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,630
Sher please line

742
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,319
up Linda

743
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:16,200
W number three and Sherry D otherwise we

744
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,430
go to the next

745
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,920
group okay next Group K uh Karen

746
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,440
P um um a Amy

747
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,319
new um s p

748
00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:40,319
d Toby B and Y a a please line up thank

749
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:44,240
you go ahead first of all I ask the uh

750
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:45,880
Council to

751
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,079
actively um keep to your res keep to

752
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,119
your instructions I am intimidated by

753
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,920
people jering in the corner and I find

754
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,640
that while I can hear that perhaps the

755
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
council cannot I ask that you do not

756
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:03,720
have any resolution at all I think this

757
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,200
is to be honest not really your business

758
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,480
your business is Alban's

759
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,640
business my last point is that a lie

760
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,480
spoken a million times is still a lie

761
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,720
for example claiming from this Podium

762
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,119
that the international court of justice

763
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:24,040
declared that Israel is committing a

764
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,599
genocide is a lie all you need to do is

765
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:30,280
Google it it's not true genocide and its

766
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,720
definition certainly is well known by

767
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:35,760
Jews is the intentional eradication of

768
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,480
an entire people either the gazin are

769
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,920
part of the Palestinians or they not you

770
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,710
can't have it both ways thank you very

771
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:50,119
much hi I'm Sherry um I'm a resident of

772
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,480
el Sero so I applaud you for grappling

773
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,880
with this they won't do it in elero they

774
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640
don't have the courage at this point um

775
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,640
I support this resolution of course with

776
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,359
some reservations and I've been tracking

777
00:45:02,359 --> 00:45:04,520
resolutions in other cities around the

778
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
country and you know noticing here

779
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,440
tonight the messaging um it might be

780
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,760
possible that you want to just do a

781
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,680
separate Hamas resolution and strengthen

782
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,280
the resolution you have so that you

783
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,760
really do consider issues of genocide

784
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,400
issues of starvation issues of

785
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,160
occupation issues of accountability

786
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,280
issues of Israeli complicity so um

787
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,240
because sometimes if you try to put too

788
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,680
much together in one thing you actually

789
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,559
it gets pretty watered down but if you

790
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,119
don't want to consider that just pass

791
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,359
this and keep the title thank

792
00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:43,230
you thank you for your

793
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:46,000
comments my name is Karen plat I've

794
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,319
lived in Albany for more than 40 years I

795
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,040
was a teacher at Albany Middle School in

796
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,720
the 80s and I'm Jewish and I strongly

797
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,119
support this resolution I think it's

798
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,000
horrible to watch a genocide in progress

799
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,640
right before our eyes and the strongest

800
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,119
thing that I can say is it's Collective

801
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,920
punishment which is a war crime

802
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,520
according to article 33 of the Fourth

803
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,720
Geneva

804
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,000
Convention thank you for your

805
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,559
comments hi my name is Sapa I am

806
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,400
actually an el2 resident and I just want

807
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,359
to say I support this resolution I have

808
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:28,000
some reservation but wholeheartedly I

809
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,280
think too little too late because today

810
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,440
14 countries voted for ceasefire in

811
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,319
United Nation and even us abstained so

812
00:46:39,319 --> 00:46:41,400
you should consider that when you

813
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,920
consider this resolution no matter what

814
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,040
these people are saying the truth of the

815
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,200
matter is you're too late the whole

816
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,720
world is saying enough is enough raping

817
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:55,720
anything that you see in the news I

818
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,720
don't want to rip it again what is

819
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,400
happening in Palestine in Kaz and in

820
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,720
West Bank they keep having

821
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,240
Hamas why West Bank they're killing

822
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:08,040
people why in the West Bank they

823
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,640
arresting people West Bank there is no

824
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,599
Hamas is the Palestinian Authority so is

825
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:17,240
a lie is about Hamas don't fall for it

826
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,559
ask them why thank you thank you for

827
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,240
your

828
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:25,480
comments hi uh I'm a resident here in

829
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,319
Albany and I'm originally from Egypt

830
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:31,640
which is neighbor for Palestine Israel

831
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,160
and Lebanon and I want to point out that

832
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,240
Hamas was not there in 1967 when Israel

833
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,240
occupied Hamas occupied Palestine in

834
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,160
1974 when Sinai in Egypt was occupied

835
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,359
and part of Lebanon seeing the dead

836
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:48,599
children every day break my heart some

837
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:51,280
women are wed from just couple of days

838
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,760
finally I want everyone to ask himself

839
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,160
that what if it was your kid your wife

840
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,680
or your mother I ask for ceasefire and

841
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,119
peace in the whole region thank you are

842
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,640
you Toby

843
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,079
or so I'm

844
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:14,190
missing Toby and a

845
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,200
Amy and um mayor after these we no more

846
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,119
speaker cards my name is Toby blame I'm

847
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,559
a resident of elero I've attended one of

848
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:25,119
your meetings before when I was much

849
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,920
better attended for supporting ceasefire

850
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,880
I'm here today to beg of you you city

851
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,720
council it's it's not the perfect

852
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,319
resolution it's by far but we need to

853
00:48:35,319 --> 00:48:37,839
get as many cities passing resolutions

854
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:40,760
as fast as we can I bring to all of you

855
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,160
today the words of Aaron Bushnell who is

856
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,960
the

857
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,160
25-year-old American active duty Airman

858
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,079
who set fire to himself because he

859
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,400
couldn't stand the US complicity and us

860
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,319
and genocide in Gaza and think of this

861
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:57,400
gentleman

862
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,040
25 years old who sacrificed his life to

863
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,520
bring attention expose the crime I beg

864
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,119
of you his last words he posted on

865
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,559
social media were I'm paraphrasing it

866
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:11,240
many people ask themselves what would we

867
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,160
do in the time of slavery what would we

868
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,559
do it in the time of Jim Crow what would

869
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:17,200
we do in the time of

870
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,680
apartheid you don't need to ask yourself

871
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Americans or city council now because

872
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,319
what you're doing today and every day

873
00:49:25,319 --> 00:49:26,920
answers that question thank you thank

874
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:36,150
you thank you thank you for your

875
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,680
comments that's all the speaker cards I

876
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,079
have uh if anyone in the room has not

877
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:43,880
spoken uh if you could fill out a

878
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,829
speaker card and

879
00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:54,510
um I have an Amy is that

880
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,680
you I really have no words when I'm

881
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,400
hearing that the word ceasefire is

882
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,760
triggering in the history of humankind

883
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,799
when has calling for a ceasefire been

884
00:50:04,799 --> 00:50:07,920
triggering when has been calling to not

885
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,240
starve children been a problem I am

886
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,640
fasting I look forward to breaking my

887
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
fast the people in Gaza are fasting and

888
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,880
they have to break their fast with grass

889
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,319
or nothing and this is not a famine that

890
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:22,640
was you know somehow this a man-made

891
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,799
famine the Israelis are going to the

892
00:50:24,799 --> 00:50:27,680
border and stopping the food from going

893
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,520
through they now said that Ana cannot go

894
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,839
into Northern uh into Gaza at all and we

895
00:50:32,839 --> 00:50:35,640
have pulled our funding from ANA so we

896
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,720
are starving children and the people

897
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,359
that are worried about Hamas how do you

898
00:50:40,359 --> 00:50:41,520
think those kids are going to grow up

899
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,119
and feel towards not only Israel but

900
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,640
towards America how shortsighted are we

901
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,359
what kind of humanity do we have when we

902
00:50:48,359 --> 00:50:50,359
can starve children and send our tax

903
00:50:50,359 --> 00:50:52,200
dollars to starve more children and bomb

904
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,640
more mosques and houses and

905
00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:01,789
hospitals please refrain from

906
00:51:01,799 --> 00:51:06,280
Jay hi uh Jay Aly resident um please

907
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,480
pass this uh resolution it's not

908
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,400
perfect um but and it's late but please

909
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,960
pass it don't listen to those who seem

910
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,960
to think that we shouldn't have a

911
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,960
ceasefire they're in some kind of

912
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,440
genocide or Mania they shouldn't be

913
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,680
listened to um cooler heads need to

914
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,559
Prevail uh hopefully the US is starting

915
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:29,760
to come around they abstained

916
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,119
today they should have voted yes but

917
00:51:32,119 --> 00:51:35,880
they abstained uh the international

918
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,040
pressure is building and people are

919
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,920
starving and dying every day so pass the

920
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,040
resolution don't listen to those who

921
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,240
would uh have you tell have who would

922
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:49,359
tell you that this is somehow wrong um

923
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:55,510
yeah cease fire

924
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,640
now thank you everyone in the council

925
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:06,630
chamber we're going to move to online

926
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,760
speakers my name is pmer an Israeli

927
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,559
American living in the East Bay the son

928
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:14,079
of indigenous Jewish people of Israel

929
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:15,760
Israel and the majority of the Jewish

930
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,200
community of the Bay Area want peace the

931
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,440
fact that you're not calling for peace

932
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,799
is alarming there are two combatants

933
00:52:21,799 --> 00:52:23,599
here in this war one of which your

934
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:26,960
resolution conspicuously omits Hamas

935
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Israel is fighting Hamas Gaza is ruled

936
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,240
by Hamas full stop the ceasefire

937
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,640
language only helps Hamas will help the

938
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,880
people of Gaza and Israel will be

939
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,839
calling for peace which can only be

940
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:40,400
achieved by removing Hamas an extremist

941
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,119
totalitarian regime that says that that

942
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,680
condones using rape as a weapon of war

943
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,359
that calls for all women to go back into

944
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,599
the kitchen and wants to kill all Jews

945
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,040
around the world not just in Israel just

946
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,680
as the International Coalition came

947
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640
together to destroy Isis the same must

948
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,799
be done to Hamas you're whitewashing

949
00:52:57,799 --> 00:52:59,040
Hamas by leaving them out of the

950
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,200
resolutions just as bad as whitewashing

951
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,599
the crimes of Isis thank you thank you

952
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:12,270
for your

953
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,839
comments hi I'm mus K the Council on

954
00:53:14,839 --> 00:53:16,240
American Islamic relations wishing

955
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,079
everybody a blessed Ramadan in the

956
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:19,520
spirit of the holy month of Ramadan the

957
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,599
Israeli Heritage Minister recently said

958
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,160
that the so-called month of Ramadan must

959
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,599
be wiped out over 31,000 Palestinian

960
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:26,920
civilians have been killed Israeli

961
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,000
attacks on Gaza since October 7th that

962
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,240
includes 25,000 women and children which

963
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:33,280
is 80% of the death toll this is not a

964
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,000
war on Hamas but a war on the people of

965
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,480
Gaza Governor gav Gavin Newsome recently

966
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,799
called for a ceasefire in an open letter

967
00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:40,799
to California Muslims and Arabs today

968
00:53:40,799 --> 00:53:42,839
the UN Security Council resolution

969
00:53:42,839 --> 00:53:44,000
calling for an immediate and Lasting

970
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,280
ceasefire 14 to Zer joining the global

971
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,760
call for ceasefire are those in Albany

972
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,040
who have sounded the alarm on social

973
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,720
media written letters spoken to the

974
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,200
representatives all too often to

975
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,079
deafening silence this is an opportunity

976
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:55,240
for this Council to amplify your

977
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:57,040
community's call for a ceas

978
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,440
right now amidst Israel's brutal Siege

979
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,559
on El shfa Hospital there have been

980
00:53:59,559 --> 00:54:01,359
reports of executions detentions and

981
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:03,040
sexual violence it's critical for you to

982
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,559
Cate ceasefire now it's a he for he the

983
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:06,720
call of the people of Albany and the

984
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:16,750
world thank you thank you for your

985
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,559
comments everyone I do not see the need

986
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:21,920
for Albany to pass a resolution on this

987
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,640
complex matter especially given that the

988
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,240
city has already made a statement on

989
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:28,079
this

990
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,240
topic however if you insist to pass one

991
00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:32,920
please make the following

992
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,440
changes one condemn Hamas the terror

993
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,720
organization and call for its removal

994
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,920
from Power two please rename the

995
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520
resolution for a call for peace versus a

996
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,160
one-sided

997
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,440
ceasefire three denounced anti-semitic

998
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,440
and hateful acts that have occurred in

999
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,400
our

1000
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,079
community four do not make a comparison

1001
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,400
between between Israeli hostages and

1002
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,160
prisoners who have committed crimes I

1003
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,480
wish everyone a Happy Po and hope the

1004
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,920
Jews will win evil again thank

1005
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:17,069
you thank you for your

1006
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:19,599
comments hi my name is Lee and I'm an

1007
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:22,799
Albany resident uh first I care about

1008
00:55:22,799 --> 00:55:25,079
Jewish lives and Palestinian lives I

1009
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:26,880
have never cheered about the death of

1010
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,920
any innocent life 30,000 Palestinians

1011
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,240
would still be alive if Hamas did not

1012
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,160
start this war that is why it is so

1013
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,119
important to add removing Hamas from

1014
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,039
power in the resolution and yes I would

1015
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,720
love a permanent ceasefire not a

1016
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,599
temporary one that only benefits

1017
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:44,760
terrorists as they regroup and rearm

1018
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,599
before they attack Israel over and over

1019
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:48,520
again as they have so proudly vowed to

1020
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,319
do as long as there is Hamas no

1021
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,680
ceasefire will last I'm also shocked

1022
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,000
that the resolution calls for the

1023
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,599
unconditional release of Civilian

1024
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:57,400
prisoners how can you compare

1025
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,079
one-year-old hostage K bius to

1026
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,200
22-year-old Ahmed manasra who was 14

1027
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,960
years old when he went to Israeli prison

1028
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,839
for stabbing and attempting to murder

1029
00:56:06,839 --> 00:56:09,880
two Israeli teens in 2016 there should

1030
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,760
be no strings attached to bring back

1031
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,079
people who were

1032
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:24,390
kidnapped thank you thank you for your

1033
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,920
comments hi my my name is n and I am

1034
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,400
Israeli and Albany resident for a long

1035
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,720
time I want you to remember October 7th

1036
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,880
remember the children SW elderly and

1037
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,119
everyone who was kidnapped or brutally

1038
00:56:38,119 --> 00:56:40,720
murdered and also today they are raped

1039
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:43,960
in the in Gaza they were not killed

1040
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,200
during time of War they were killed just

1041
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,079
for being is in Israel there was ceas

1042
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:51,720
fire in October 6 Hamas broke it in

1043
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,359
early morning of the 7th clearly any

1044
00:56:54,359 --> 00:56:56,920
cire with Hamas does not like last more

1045
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,039
than two years Hamas has it in their

1046
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,240
Charter that they will destroy Israel

1047
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,079
and will call all kill all Jewish

1048
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,720
wherever they are if an October 7 attack

1049
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,000
happen in the US would you calling for

1050
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,880
SE fire you know we would blow the crap

1051
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,000
out of the terrorist who started it and

1052
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,359
it would be justified because it's War

1053
00:57:16,359 --> 00:57:18,520
please include removing Hamas as part of

1054
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,599
the resolution that's the only hope for

1055
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:24,760
lasting and practice in region okay

1056
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,240
Israel did not occupy AA for the last 20

1057
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:37,430
years thank you for your

1058
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,960
comments hello my name is David and I'm

1059
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,720
a long time very long time Alber WR

1060
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,240
firstly I am disappointed this is

1061
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,280
something our local Council spent so

1062
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,680
much time on though it does make me

1063
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,799
curious if SE subf Fires for other

1064
00:57:51,799 --> 00:57:54,599
conflicts with many more casualties are

1065
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:56,640
coming next I would think that

1066
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,359
addressing other major Wars is much more

1067
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:01,760
unifying than focusing on only Israel

1068
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,440
and Gaza I'm sure Albany has many

1069
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,839
ukrainians Russians syrians Yemen

1070
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,400
Haitians that are equally distressed as

1071
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,799
gazans and Israelis why aren't they

1072
00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:15,520
being mentioned and while I recognize

1073
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,440
that you all are being pressured to pass

1074
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,839
this resolution I agree with the notion

1075
00:58:20,839 --> 00:58:23,400
of changing its tile if your goal is

1076
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,319
long-term peace and security in the

1077
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:29,520
region say it say it how it is change

1078
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,160
the title to be a reflective of that

1079
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,079
instead of a call for a temporary

1080
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:35,359
ceasefire make it a call for lasting

1081
00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:40,109
peace really

1082
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:51,510
simple thank you for your

1083
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,039
comments elain please unmute

1084
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:59,069
yourself

1085
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:02,640
um I'm at 45 seconds could I start at a

1086
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,880
minute please

1087
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,920
hello go ahead and speak I'm at 37

1088
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,920
seconds can go ahead and make your

1089
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,240
comment okay Hamas broke the ceasefire

1090
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,760
in 2012 again in 2016 and again on

1091
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,280
October 6 they have vowed to keep

1092
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,839
attacking Israel a ceasefire will be

1093
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:32,799
used to rearm Hamas which will mean more

1094
00:59:32,799 --> 00:59:36,520
dead people you should change the name

1095
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,920
of this resolution to path path to peace

1096
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,200
which is a much more realistic title

1097
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:55,029
since Hamas does not want

1098
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:57,200
peace if you have a little bit more you

1099
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,670
have a little bit more

1100
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:20,670
time thank you for your

1101
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,789
comment

1102
01:00:23,799 --> 01:00:27,440
Fresca please unmute yourself

1103
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,039
can you hear me yes can I have my time

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01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:31,799
back

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please thank you uh I just want to say

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that uh 127 children were killed per day

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in awit it was about 220,000 children

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over 5 years in Gaza the average is 139

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01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,960
per day right now and these statistics

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do not diminish the severity and evil of

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what happened to the Jews during the

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Holocaust they're simply bringing to

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light the grave situation in Gaza the

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01:00:56,359 --> 01:00:57,880
hostages that people are mentioning make

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up 3% of the people in Gaza right now

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01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,280
that's not even 1% that's less than a

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01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,839
half of 1% what is fueling anti-Semitism

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01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:10,079
is the murdering of Civilian men women

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01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:12,520
and children by the thousands under the

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,480
banner of the Star of David and then

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,760
adamantly insisting that that is the

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01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,119
totality of Judaism and thus Inseparable

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01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:23,680
from all Jews Zionism is Terrorism

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01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,119
Jewish safety and Palestinian liberation

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01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:29,039
are intertwined please pass this

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01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:31,480
ceasefire resolution thank

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:45,630
you thank you for your

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,839
comments please unmute yourself when you

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01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:50,870
see the

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01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:56,839
message hi uh my name is and I um

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01:01:56,839 --> 01:01:59,839
I want uh I am supporting this

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01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:03,440
resolution uh we are already too late

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01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,480
the horrific crimes that are being

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01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,079
committed against the people of

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01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,480
Palestine especially the people of Gaza

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01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:14,680
uh are just too much uh if you guys care

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01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,599
to really find The Truth Listen to the

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01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:20,039
accounts of the people who are in who

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01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,640
are being evacuated from the hospital

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01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,559
and the homes they family members are

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01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:30,200
being murdered in front of them and uh

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,279
they are starving they have no food and

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01:02:32,279 --> 01:02:34,119
no water pleas passes these fire

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01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:36,240
resolution it's already relate we're the

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01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,240
ones funding it and we should be

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01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,150
stopping

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:48,870
it thank you for your

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01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,880
comments hello my name is Walla oricat

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01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,920
and I am a Palestinian American resident

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01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,400
of el cero

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01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,680
I support a resolution to call for an

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01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,599
immediate and permanent ceasefire the

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01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:03,400
suffering endured by innocent civilians

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01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,160
on both sides is immeasurable and the

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01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,839
cycle of violence only perpetrates more

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01:03:08,839 --> 01:03:12,440
pain and loss millions of people all

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01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,960
over the world are calling for a

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,640
ceasefire and today 14 countries voted

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01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,240
in favor at the UN Security

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01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,279
Council however this call is a little

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01:03:24,279 --> 01:03:27,640
too late we've seen over we've seen

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01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,200
Israel kill over 32,000 Palestinians

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01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,079
injure over 74,000 Palestinians they're

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01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:37,640
starving to death over a million people

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01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,200
including 27 children who have already

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,799
died

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01:03:41,799 --> 01:03:46,079
uh we cannot continue to watch this

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01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:50,390
please vote for the

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,710
resolution thank you for your

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:02,190
comments

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01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,200
hi my name is Lake and Sheldon I'm a

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,880
resident of Albany and I'm here to

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01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,119
advocate for a permanent ceasefire I

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01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:10,160
think he should pass this resolution

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I've had numerous friends and family

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01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,000
who've been directly affected by this

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,400
genocide but you don't have to know

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01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,240
anybody personally to know that the

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slaughter of innocent children and

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,920
civilians is absolutely wrong you know

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,520
we have uh zionists here arguing about

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,480
the technicality of this word and that

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,880
word but nobody in their right mind

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01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,319
should declare that our tax SC dollars

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01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:37,119
be sent overseas to continue this

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01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,920
massive Slaughter it's just ridiculous

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01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,079
and I while their history is is way off

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01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,039
all you have to do is Google knock by

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01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:47,279
it's it's all there it's so easy to find

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01:04:47,279 --> 01:04:49,039
out so these zionists with their

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01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:50,640
arguments which have been debunked over

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01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,799
and over you got to pass this resolution

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we can't keep killing

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01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,640
people

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:08,589
thank you for your

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01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:11,319
comments hi everybody my name is Russell

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01:05:11,319 --> 01:05:14,799
Bates I'm a Berkeley resident I've been

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01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:17,440
following and supporting the Palestine

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01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,359
cause for the last 30 years I'd like to

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see an unconditional worldwide ceasefire

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01:05:24,359 --> 01:05:27,039
one the Israeli m does not control like

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01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:28,760
they're controlling the president the

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,480
house the Senate it's a cult it's a cult

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:37,119
of death and it needs to be stopped

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01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:42,319
immediately it's wrong and it's hurting

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01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:45,760
the world Zionism is on its way out the

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Ted offensive in 68 the Gaza offensive

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,599
in 23 the Americans were rout 7 years

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01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:53,960
later the zist will be out sooner or

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,720
later pass this resolution and please

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01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,269
stop the killing thank

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01:06:00,279 --> 01:06:08,549
you thank you for your

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01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:11,680
comments hello my name is Risa I am a

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,319
Berkeley resident and I'm here um in

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01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:19,520
support of a ceasefire resolution um in

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01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,480
Albany I personally have no familiar

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01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,720
ties within like is Israel or Gaza but

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01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,680
as someone who has seen the videos of

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starving children the killings of men

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01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,960
women pregnant women elderly in Gaza

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,240
over the last 6 months I know this isn't

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a complicated situation I know anyone

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01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:51,160
can see that this is a genocide and um

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01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,680
calling for a ceasefire

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01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:58,319
isn't isn't a call for division or uh

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01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:01,319
hatred it is a call for Humanity so

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please City Council Members please pass

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,000
the ceas fire resolution thank

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,349
you thank you for your

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01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:14,160
comments mayor that's all from online we

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,079
do have two public speakers in the

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audience ahead Dalia and next is elen or

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01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:23,839
e thank you so much Council for this

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01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:25,920
opportunity I know there there is a lot

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,559
of pressure to pass a ceasefire as much

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01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:29,319
as I wish I could ask you to stay

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01:07:29,319 --> 01:07:32,240
focused on local business so I will say

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01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,400
speaking for myself and anybody else in

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,079
this room the the humanitarian cost is

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01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:40,440
awful nobody wants this this is abor in

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01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,829
anybody's

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01:07:44,839 --> 01:07:49,789
book it's tragic it's absolutely

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01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:52,520
tragic the call for a ceasefire on the

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,520
surface seems completely legitimate and

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,720
reasonable who wouldn't want that I

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01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,400
would ask you to please understand the

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01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,039
Nuance here that it has to be a

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01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:03,319
ceasefire that protects safety on both

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01:08:03,319 --> 01:08:06,279
sides on all sides that it has to be a

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01:08:06,279 --> 01:08:08,680
ceasefire that removes Hamas and

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01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,920
endorses Israel's right to exist as a

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,200
nation at the same time thank you thank

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,199
you for your

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01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:22,590
comments e or

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,560
El um my name is eileene Lee I work in

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,960
Albany Hamas must be disarmed and

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,839
removed from power for a lasting peace

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01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:36,120
if not they will do what they promised

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,319
on October 7th and continue slaughtering

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01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:43,719
Jews today they shot 11 Rockets not at

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01:08:43,719 --> 01:08:47,199
soldiers in Gaza but at civilians in

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01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:50,159
Israel please add that to your

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01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:53,679
resolution secondly please call this a

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01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:56,839
path to long-term peace and security

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01:08:56,839 --> 01:08:58,199
that's what we all

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01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:03,799
want and um number three do not equate

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01:09:03,799 --> 01:09:07,000
the innocent Israeli hostages who were

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,440
kidnapped from their homes on October

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01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:11,960
7th don't equate them to convicted

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01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,600
terrorists that are held in Israeli

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:24,349
prisoners thank you thank you for your

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01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,239
comments

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01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:29,000
hi can you hear me all right yes we can

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,920
hear you perfect my name is Henry uh I'm

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,159
an anti Zionist you I'm not going to all

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01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,759
Liv matter of this BS uh for the last

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01:09:36,759 --> 01:09:38,799
160 days we've seen the unadulterated

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Slaughter an unequivocal Slaughter of

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,080
men women and children um for those

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,480
claiming that there was a ceasefire on

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01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:47,759
October 6th uh let me remind you that

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01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:50,679
97% of water in Gaza was

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01:09:50,679 --> 01:09:53,279
undrinkable undrinkable Gaza has been

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01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,320
declared the largest concentration camp

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,320
for Palestinians

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,320
worldwide uh we have to put an end to

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,560
this killing we have to put a stop to it

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01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,480
the calls that a ceasefire is divisive

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01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:07,560
uh on the surface level level or even

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,000
under it um are just calls to continue

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,719
violence you must put a stop to it uh my

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01:10:13,719 --> 01:10:16,120
Jewish history tells me that I should be

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,199
more apt to see the signs of

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01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:19,360
dehumanization the signs of genocide of

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01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,679
which are very apparent ceas fire

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01:10:23,679 --> 01:10:32,790
nowk for your comment

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,719
hi there um my name is Talia I'm a

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01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:38,480
resident of Albany um I understand that

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01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:39,719
you feel that this resolution is

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01:10:39,719 --> 01:10:41,320
balanced and that IT addresses the hurts

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,800
of many in a community at least that's

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01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,920
what you told me when we met in person I

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,040
also understand that hard work did and

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,880
was put into drafting this resolution

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,400
and as upet and as many have said it is

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,960
not perfect while many here and

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01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,440
everywhere have claimed that they want

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01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,320
peace they still spew hateful sentiments

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,600
toward Israel and Jews it is those

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,600
Voices That should be silenced I have

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01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,840
yet to hear anyone speak disply about

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,960
any citizen of Gaza all decent and

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,920
reasonable people want a ceasefire but

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,640
that cannot be done without eliminating

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,159
Kamas and releasing the hostages the

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01:11:13,159 --> 01:11:15,000
resolution's omission of any reference

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,920
to Hamas the terrorist group who began

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01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,400
this conflict is shocking if peace is

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,440
truly what everyone wants and everyone

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01:11:22,440 --> 01:11:24,560
has claimed it then the title of this

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,400
resolution should absolutely include

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01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,679
that thank you for your

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01:11:28,679 --> 01:11:31,159
time thank you for your

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01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:40,550
comments that's it oh I'm

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:46,360
sorry um I appreciate the resolution um

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,400
um my my request is would it be I would

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,320
like to see added to it that the US

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,600
government no longer Pro is stops

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01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,199
providing weapons and money for weapons

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01:11:57,199 --> 01:11:59,880
um that Israel is using to kill

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01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,320
Palestinians as a Jew I am embarrassed

1332
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,679
and actually horrified by what is

1333
01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:08,480
happening right now thank you thank you

1334
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:13,709
for your

1335
01:12:13,719 --> 01:12:15,800
comments that's

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,199
all and with that we will close public

1337
01:12:18,199 --> 01:12:20,400
comments I want to thank everyone who

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,679
has provided comments today both online

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01:12:22,679 --> 01:12:25,440
and in person uh and in the past over

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01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:29,760
the past few months um I recognize that

1341
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,840
for many of you in the room this may not

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,320
have been a comfortable conversation uh

1343
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,080
but I applaud the civility by which this

1344
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,679
meeting has occurred um I also recognize

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01:12:40,679 --> 01:12:42,199
that there

1346
01:12:42,199 --> 01:12:47,800
were uh moments in which Applause or um

1347
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,360
dissent was voiced and but I appreciate

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,040
that those who are doing that were able

1349
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:57,520
to uh come back to our are um requested

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,400
standards of kind of how we would run

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,560
this in in our

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01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,199
deorum um I have often looked to this

1353
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:08,920
Council and often said that uh as the

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01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,400
one presiding over the meeting that I

1355
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,679
would prefer to go last in discussing

1356
01:13:12,679 --> 01:13:14,880
things I do have a few things that I

1357
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,800
would like to say before we get into

1358
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,870
conversation

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,400
um uh I would like to address some of

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,400
the comments are raised by members of

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01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,560
the public uh and Aaron please feel free

1362
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,760
to to interject as as you see fit um in

1363
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,120
particular um sorry I'm I'm going

1364
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,400
through my notes here um there was been

1365
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,159
a lot of call for a permanent ceasefire

1366
01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:45,120
and I think that is something that that

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01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,199
that we in discussions with many people

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01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,920
and between ourselves um we thought

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,840
about as well our primary concern about

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01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,080
including permanent with ceasefire as

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,360
suppos to in the language that we have

1372
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,760
which calls for an immediate bilateral

1373
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,840
ceasefire and um let me read the exact

1374
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,239
phrasing uh let me see in the resolution

1375
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:09,440
it says um and negotiation of a

1376
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:11,320
permanent just solution to the conflict

1377
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,159
that results in lasting prosperity for

1378
01:14:13,159 --> 01:14:15,120
all by affirming all parties right to

1379
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,800
self-determination and peaceful

1380
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,040
coexistence our our recognition is that

1381
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,600
a ceasefire is needed now hostility

1382
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,320
needs to end now um without it

1383
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,440
necessarily

1384
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:32,440
being um reliant on the long-term

1385
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:36,360
ceasefire or peaceful existence of the

1386
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,199
Palestinians and the Israelis um in Gaza

1387
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:43,520
and in the West Bank uh we did not want

1388
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,080
to

1389
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,760
um we did not want to make that a

1390
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,960
condition of getting to the point where

1391
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,719
an end of the hostilities as they are

1392
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:54,800
going on now and that the humanitarian

1393
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,360
Aid a can begin to flow and that through

1394
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,719
a process we are

1395
01:14:59,719 --> 01:15:02,480
not we are not experts in this field but

1396
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:04,440
just understanding that a process would

1397
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:06,320
would be had that we would hope that

1398
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,360
there would be

1399
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,840
self-determination and two governments

1400
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,360
working together to find a peaceful

1401
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,910
long-term

1402
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,719
solution um so that was uh one of the

1403
01:15:17,719 --> 01:15:19,520
items I wanted to raise just explanation

1404
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,440
of of the language uh just because I

1405
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:24,080
recognize that uh for the other council

1406
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,800
members up here

1407
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,040
um just why we didn't include the word

1408
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,880
permanent um let's see um and then the

1409
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,520
other one I would say is I think there

1410
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,639
was a lot of debate on the title the

1411
01:15:36,639 --> 01:15:39,360
title of the resolution um and in the

1412
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,080
end we chose to bring forth to this

1413
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,960
Council uh the phrasing is there but I

1414
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,360
believe that that is an area which um I

1415
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:52,080
know Aaron Aon and I both share the uh

1416
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,239
the opinion that at the dice it's very

1417
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,679
hard to carefully craft language um but

1418
01:15:57,679 --> 01:16:00,400
that was one point where we had quite a

1419
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,679
few

1420
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:04,159
conversations um Aon are there any

1421
01:16:04,159 --> 01:16:06,400
things that you might want to convey to

1422
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,880
the other council members in terms of

1423
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,679
things that the members of the public

1424
01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:11,920
raised about language or

1425
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,040
terminology um uh a couple um and and

1426
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,560
thank you for addressing some of that uh

1427
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:19,600
I

1428
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,480
think like you mentioned we we did

1429
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:26,120
discuss you know what do we call this

1430
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,080
which all gets at what are we trying to

1431
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,000
say and how are we trying to say it and

1432
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,400
I think that

1433
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,960
the it was it was my opinion that we had

1434
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,520
to keep it calling as a as a resolution

1435
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,280
calling for Seas far as that was our

1436
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,480
intention uh that we

1437
01:16:43,480 --> 01:16:47,000
were that was the understood phrase that

1438
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,400
I think is was clear to us as saying

1439
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,080
that there is something very wrong

1440
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,960
happening now and it needs to stop and

1441
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,199
too many people are dying and there

1442
01:16:57,199 --> 01:16:59,520
needs to be a halt to that and and

1443
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:03,320
that's what I think ceire means and

1444
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,920
that's why it's in the title of that I

1445
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,440
would also say that you know just as

1446
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:12,880
there are many things that in the many

1447
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,000
hours John and I discuss this that

1448
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,760
we think about this issue not all of

1449
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,040
which we put in this resolution just as

1450
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,679
this resolution does not include

1451
01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:26,280
everything that I or John or anyone in

1452
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,880
the city wants to say about this our

1453
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,800
title doesn't include everything that

1454
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,520
happens in the resolution and in fact

1455
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,120
I'd say if we're if anyone's just

1456
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,080
focusing on the title it's important to

1457
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,520
read the entire thing that's why we

1458
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,679
wrote it uh that's why we put so much

1459
01:17:40,679 --> 01:17:43,480
effort into every one of those words and

1460
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:45,080
why I spent so long in front of my

1461
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,560
computer looking at them uh the all of

1462
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,080
them are important and I think they do

1463
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,800
address a lot of the things people said

1464
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,120
and including that want for a Perman

1465
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,760
piece which we do have in that Clause it

1466
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,760
I think uh as as some of the other

1467
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,480
council members know uh I am very

1468
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:07,679
obsessive about writing things well and

1469
01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:10,040
that was a consistent difficulty here

1470
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,120
because there is a the simplest and

1471
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,040
easiest and best expressed way to write

1472
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,080
things was not always the way that we

1473
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,840
had to express it to

1474
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,560
be over clear about what we were trying

1475
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,080
to say and and that's where we ended up

1476
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,480
and I

1477
01:18:25,480 --> 01:18:27,400
sincerely believe we got to the points

1478
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,000
we needed to and express the intention

1479
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,560
that we expressed and for more detail

1480
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,400
you know the the memo does is exist to

1481
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,120
elucidate some of that and spell out

1482
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:43,709
those intents uh

1483
01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:46,960
clearly um I will uh take an opportunity

1484
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,760
now to go more into again I normally

1485
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,040
choose to go at the end but I I would

1486
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,360
prefer if I may to uh take use the

1487
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,840
mayor's discretion to make a statement

1488
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,920
um you know I think through the

1489
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,880
formation of this ad hoc committee and

1490
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,520
and apologize to everyone in the room I

1491
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,560
am going to read from some text that I

1492
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,040
wrote because

1493
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,639
um uh I am recovering still from a cold

1494
01:19:12,639 --> 01:19:14,679
and even in my best times I will forget

1495
01:19:14,679 --> 01:19:17,199
points that I mean to say so um through

1496
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:18,480
the formation of the at committee I've

1497
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:21,199
learned and grown so much um many have

1498
01:19:21,199 --> 01:19:24,080
shared truly personal lived experiences

1499
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:25,480
that have given me a deeper

1500
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:27,199
understanding and apprecia of the pain

1501
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:30,239
fear anxiety and grief each of you has

1502
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:33,120
and I think you know those who ask us

1503
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,960
why do we why is why we as the council

1504
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,320
taking this on it's because that is such

1505
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:42,000
a visceral thing in our community um

1506
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,880
that is occurring and I'll go back to my

1507
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,560
script now um and you've opened up about

1508
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,600
your hopes and dreams and I appreciate

1509
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,760
that as well um as this process started

1510
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,239
I did not see a b bilateral ceasefire

1511
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:56,320
something that would divide our

1512
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,159
community because I felt we were already

1513
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:02,120
a divided Community one in which civil

1514
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,480
discourse could not occur one in which

1515
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,040
peaceful marches and rallies and

1516
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,600
protests could not occur without

1517
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,320
violence one in which city council

1518
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,440
meetings across the bay area have either

1519
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:18,040
ended early or ended

1520
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,679
in in I would not none have gone to the

1521
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:23,920
extent of violence but have not um have

1522
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,719
not been a meeting that people felt

1523
01:20:26,719 --> 01:20:30,120
comfortable being in or felt safe being

1524
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,760
in we a community where again and

1525
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,600
January 6th our rally a peaceful rally

1526
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,320
the organizers who intended to have a

1527
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:42,390
peaceful rally did not end

1528
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,840
peacefully where UC Berkeley

1529
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,159
continuously has protests that turn

1530
01:20:49,159 --> 01:20:51,440
violent these are all

1531
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:54,800
events that are not you know that are

1532
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,800
part of us we as part of Albany we as

1533
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,800
part of the East Bay Region we as the

1534
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,159
San Francisco Bay area we are

1535
01:21:03,159 --> 01:21:05,679
experiencing and I say this because as

1536
01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:09,080
council members he did

1537
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,199
discussions part of what happens when

1538
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:13,440
you have a contentious item that's on a

1539
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:16,400
docket sorry on an

1540
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,920
agenda heated discussions about tangible

1541
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,000
things that our community can help shape

1542
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,360
and control can lead to compromise

1543
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,920
understanding and a better City the

1544
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,960
wounds from those heated discussions

1545
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,600
will heal over time but that is for

1546
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,360
tangible things that we as a city

1547
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,760
control and so for those of you in the

1548
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,280
room who say we as the council should

1549
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,600
stay focused on things that are

1550
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,080
local I agree and we me we said this or

1551
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,560
I said this on March 4th when we when I

1552
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:51,679
brought the question to the council

1553
01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:53,320
about forming an ad hoc

1554
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,199
committee and I mentioned then that we

1555
01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:58,760
as a council are not prone to doing this

1556
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,320
we are not prone to taking on things

1557
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,120
that are outside of our borders and more

1558
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,120
importantly are not something that we

1559
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:11,310
have a tangible effect

1560
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,960
upon and I say that because when we take

1561
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,880
on topics like this we take on topics

1562
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,920
where we can form a resolution and that

1563
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,520
resolution has no tangible

1564
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,560
impact

1565
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,480
I say all of that and yet I brought

1566
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:30,600
forth the request to form an ad hoc

1567
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,920
committee and I brought forth with Aaron

1568
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,719
many thanks to Aaron sorry council

1569
01:22:35,719 --> 01:22:39,080
member tedan this resolution because I

1570
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,120
believe while this resolution does not

1571
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,639
have the tangible effect of frankly

1572
01:22:45,639 --> 01:22:48,840
influencing anyone in the US government

1573
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,440
anyone in Israel or anyone in Hamas it

1574
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:54,840
does raise the common voice that we have

1575
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,600
heard consistently in our

1576
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,760
community that we want

1577
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,760
peace we want a long-term peace and I

1578
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,120
understand in many

1579
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,199
ways the word

1580
01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:11,560
ceasefire has is a charged

1581
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,840
word as many have said there was a

1582
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,000
ceasefire on October 6th and it wasn't

1583
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,600
the first of many ceas of of of

1584
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,199
ceasefires so you know one of the

1585
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:24,560
phrases that I use that that that I

1586
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,840
believe in is that you know

1587
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,000
professionally in my work and in my work

1588
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,239
on a council is you can only move at the

1589
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:32,239
speed of

1590
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:35,239
trust and that trust is really in the

1591
01:23:35,239 --> 01:23:37,040
understanding that we as a

1592
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,159
community can come together and have

1593
01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:42,360
conversations and I want to applaud

1594
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,520
everyone who attended today and everyone

1595
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,440
who attended online

1596
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:48,880
today while it wasn't a comfortable

1597
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,360
conversation and while there are maybe

1598
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,320
things that some that some said that you

1599
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,440
don't agree with or you you do not

1600
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:59,239
believe we were able to have people were

1601
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:02,159
able to voice their vantage point and

1602
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:05,560
their lived experiences and to me that

1603
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,320
was one of my major purposes for

1604
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,840
bringing forth the potential of having

1605
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,600
an ad how committee to have the

1606
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,560
conversations that Aaron and I had with

1607
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,120
the community to have the ability to

1608
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,600
start to build some bridges in this

1609
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,560
community I say this because I also

1610
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,320
recognize that

1611
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,679
um

1612
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:28,239
that passing of this resolution has the

1613
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,040
ability of breaking some of those bonds

1614
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,400
but I hope we as a community are strong

1615
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,520
enough to recognize in each other that

1616
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:41,800
we have all a desire for peace I really

1617
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,679
appreciate those who came forward saying

1618
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:47,760
a clear path to peace or a path to peace

1619
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,560
I think that is very accurate in the

1620
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,000
sentiment that I've heard from everyone

1621
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,360
that I have talked with um and so with

1622
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,400
that um I will say um I will open that

1623
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,239
up to conversation with other council

1624
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:04,239
members um if they if they would like to

1625
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:06,119
comment on anything uh you do not have

1626
01:25:06,119 --> 01:25:11,229
to but um I will open that

1627
01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:14,080
up I'll take my traditional poll

1628
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,800
position

1629
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,440
um thank you mayor thank you council

1630
01:25:18,440 --> 01:25:20,840
member tan I'm very grateful that you

1631
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,560
wrote this that you took the time and

1632
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,880
did the work um I think that that the uh

1633
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,239
the goals that you set are right on um

1634
01:25:29,239 --> 01:25:31,080
so but I appreciate the explication of

1635
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,360
that uh once I read the memo that was

1636
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,760
strongly in line with my goals um like

1637
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,440
yourself I have some things I want to

1638
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:43,560
read um two factors incline me to the

1639
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,679
resolution uh one is the insufficient

1640
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:49,000
food supply that is occurring um and has

1641
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,400
been occurring and the other is that the

1642
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,320
United States is the main supplier of

1643
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:57,600
weapons to Israel and the main um source

1644
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,560
of diplomatic support and so unlike many

1645
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,840
other wars in the

1646
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,960
world that gives us a particular

1647
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,600
responsibility in this

1648
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,119
situation um in its brief regarding its

1649
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:12,159
most recent analysis of the situation in

1650
01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:15,280
Gaza issued March 18th the International

1651
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,639
Food security phase classification the

1652
01:26:17,639 --> 01:26:20,360
IPC found almost 700,000 people

1653
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,639
experiencing catastrophic food

1654
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:25,000
insecurity IT projects the will rise to

1655
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,199
1.1 million which is half the population

1656
01:26:28,199 --> 01:26:30,960
in the next few months catastrophe is

1657
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,800
defined as even when using all of their

1658
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:34,880
coping strategies people have almost no

1659
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,280
food and cannot support their basic

1660
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,960
needs starvation death destitution and

1661
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,920
extremely critical acute malnutrition

1662
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,199
levels are evident the brief States the

1663
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:48,760
IPC acute food insecurity analysis

1664
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,119
conducted in December 2023 warned of a

1665
01:26:51,119 --> 01:26:53,119
risk the famine may occur by the end of

1666
01:26:53,119 --> 01:26:54,760
May 2024

1667
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,920
if an immediate cessation of hostilities

1668
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:58,600
and sustained access for the provision

1669
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,400
of essential supplies and services to

1670
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,159
the population did not take place since

1671
01:27:03,159 --> 01:27:04,840
then the conditions necessary to prevent

1672
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,119
famine have not been met and the latest

1673
01:27:07,119 --> 01:27:08,520
evidence confirms that famine is

1674
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,880
imminent in the Northern governorates

1675
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,719
and projected to occur any time between

1676
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:14,679
mid-march and may of

1677
01:27:14,679 --> 01:27:17,239
2024 the southern governance which is

1678
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:19,760
the rest of Gaza are classified in IPC

1679
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,480
phase 4 emergency however in a worst

1680
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:24,679
case scenario these government its face

1681
01:27:24,679 --> 01:27:28,510
a risk of famine through July

1682
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,760
2024 this means without a ceasefire it

1683
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,800
is not possible to get sufficient food

1684
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:38,270
to people in Gaza to prevent

1685
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,360
famine there were choices made that

1686
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,880
created this

1687
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,000
situation the IPC divides defines famine

1688
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,199
as at least 20% of households in an area

1689
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:49,960
are experiencing catastrophic food

1690
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,760
insecurity IPC 5 meaning these

1691
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,560
households are facing an extreme lack of

1692
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,040
food at least 30% of children are

1693
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,679
suffering from acute

1694
01:27:58,679 --> 01:28:01,040
malnutrition and at least two per 10,000

1695
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,639
people are dying each

1696
01:28:03,639 --> 01:28:06,400
day ipc's population tracking tool

1697
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,440
indicates the only people on the planet

1698
01:28:08,440 --> 01:28:10,159
experiencing catastrophic food in

1699
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:12,199
security currently are in

1700
01:28:12,199 --> 01:28:14,800
Gaza majority in the northern area about

1701
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,800
a third in the center um and a quarter

1702
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:18,560
in the

1703
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,480
South the IPC system a famine occurs

1704
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:23,679
when at least 70% of the people in an

1705
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:25,400
area are are experiencing catastrophic

1706
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:26,199
food

1707
01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:28,320
insecurity that is what is projected for

1708
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,679
the nor Northern

1709
01:28:30,679 --> 01:28:32,719
government as reported by a number of

1710
01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:34,480
mainstream news organizations including

1711
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:37,000
Reuters and NPR various entities such as

1712
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,040
the world BL bank and the UN have

1713
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,760
independently estimated from satellite

1714
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,639
imagery that the number of buildings

1715
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:45,480
destroyed or damaging is approaching

1716
01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:48,239
100,000 or scale there are around 5,000

1717
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:50,159
buildings in

1718
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:52,960
Albany the area of Gaza is equal to that

1719
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,880
of the Cities from Albany through San

1720
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,040
Leandro except three times as many

1721
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,199
people live

1722
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:01,520
there imagine if none of us can leave

1723
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,080
this area food supply has been cut below

1724
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,639
sustenance levels and buildings are

1725
01:29:05,639 --> 01:29:08,000
being progressively destroyed in all

1726
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,360
parts report that more than 30,000

1727
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:11,760
people have been killed in Gaza is

1728
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,520
unverified but given the destruction

1729
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,390
that number seems

1730
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,840
reasonable the situation has elicited

1731
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,400
hate crimes against people in our area

1732
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,119
most dramatically the felonies with hate

1733
01:29:23,119 --> 01:29:25,679
crime allegations against a pro uh

1734
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:29,239
against a pro-israeli counter protester

1735
01:29:29,239 --> 01:29:32,480
by a pro Palestinian protester in Elo at

1736
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:35,440
a protest that commenced in

1737
01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:37,880
Albany I do have some adjustments I

1738
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,400
would like to request to the resolution

1739
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,800
um I have provided that file to the city

1740
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,440
clerk I hope that she's able to bring it

1741
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,880
up so that we can go through it I don't

1742
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:53,030
believe that they're

1743
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,040
dramatic

1744
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,520
or if you want to go

1745
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,360
ahead yeah well without getting uh fired

1746
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:00,480
up

1747
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:03,199
um thank you mayor Mickey council member

1748
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:06,719
tman for your efforts uh thank you

1749
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:10,239
council member Jordan for your prepared

1750
01:30:10,239 --> 01:30:12,840
statement

1751
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:17,080
uh just say on my end right now I'm not

1752
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,800
too particularly interested and get into

1753
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,320
the nuances of language or altering

1754
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,960
language

1755
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,080
um

1756
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:28,239
I I've been very clear from the jump

1757
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:30,159
that

1758
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:34,320
uh we we do have individual agency using

1759
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,560
our positionality and our influence and

1760
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,560
our connectedness to other and local

1761
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,560
power and state and federal power to

1762
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,159
communicate directly with them and to

1763
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:46,840
encourage our constituents to also reach

1764
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,320
out but I've also made it very clear

1765
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,719
that um though I like it wouldn't be the

1766
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:54,760
one to bring a resolution to the

1767
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,159
table I would still fully support a

1768
01:30:57,159 --> 01:31:00,440
resolution nonetheless

1769
01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:04,800
um I don't want to make this about our

1770
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,320
feelings and you know what we think what

1771
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,440
we observe and our opinion uh around the

1772
01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:12,639
matter because as mayor Mickey alluded

1773
01:31:12,639 --> 01:31:16,480
to and as I've also unequivocally stated

1774
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:18,320
uh numerous times we are not the

1775
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,000
Arbiters of Peace negotiation but we do

1776
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,520
have the opportunity to raise uh

1777
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,520
to the surface the necessity to call out

1778
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:31,520
what is happening and what has happened

1779
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,440
um and that it is inclusive of the

1780
01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:36,600
atrocity that happened on October 7th

1781
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,719
and the atrocities that have happened

1782
01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:41,280
since then but that's also inclusive of

1783
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:42,679
the various atrocities that have

1784
01:31:42,679 --> 01:31:45,280
happened predated to October

1785
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,119
7th um and again

1786
01:31:48,119 --> 01:31:52,520
that not uh that's not a particular

1787
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,480
thing that I think we need to get

1788
01:31:55,480 --> 01:31:59,159
detailed about when we are considering a

1789
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:00,800
resolution

1790
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,320
um and so I'll leave it there in terms

1791
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,400
of what I would like to say in term uh

1792
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:08,639
with respect

1793
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:11,760
to uh our positionality on Council but I

1794
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,840
do want to reframe it and um acknowledge

1795
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,880
everyone that is here today that has

1796
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,400
been coming to our meeting that have

1797
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,719
been emailing us um that

1798
01:32:24,719 --> 01:32:27,199
this does speak to the necessity of our

1799
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:30,760
community needing to find ways to uh

1800
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,119
come together to find ways in which we

1801
01:32:34,119 --> 01:32:38,199
can also uh have coexistence of uh lived

1802
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:40,679
and valid truth

1803
01:32:40,679 --> 01:32:43,679
um as mayor Mickey also highlighted you

1804
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:46,000
know this is a local issue but I don't

1805
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,520
think it stopped at just passing a

1806
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,360
resolution I think this maybe have speak

1807
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,600
speaks to an opportunity to uh

1808
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,239
uh have events activities in our our

1809
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,400
local spaces our community center where

1810
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,880
we highlight and showcase and center the

1811
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,520
identities that we see right here in

1812
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,280
this room right now that that what we're

1813
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:10,719
hearing what we're experiencing right

1814
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:13,800
now definitely calls out the uh

1815
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,320
unfortunate issue of lack of

1816
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,840
accountability of maybe those in uh

1817
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,719
leadership in the past who haven't

1818
01:33:19,719 --> 01:33:23,080
recognized this that we have a beautiful

1819
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,440
and diverse Community here in Albany and

1820
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:28,000
we have an opportunity to Center those

1821
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,880
uh many identities through different

1822
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,960
cultural events different opportunities

1823
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,719
uh whatever they might that may look

1824
01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:36,440
like and I think that's an opportunity

1825
01:33:36,440 --> 01:33:40,360
for us as Council us as your elected to

1826
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,320
further listen to you beyond just this

1827
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,000
meeting and so I would highly encourage

1828
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,199
folks to keep doing so um I also just

1829
01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:49,440
want to acknowledge that I've been

1830
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,119
hearing like a little tiny human uh

1831
01:33:52,119 --> 01:33:54,440
Babble out there in the hallway

1832
01:33:54,440 --> 01:33:56,760
and uh I just want to say I think that's

1833
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,360
hella dope that you know folks are

1834
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,159
getting uh people in their family

1835
01:34:02,159 --> 01:34:05,280
involved in local politics being aware

1836
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,639
um no matter what side of the issue or

1837
01:34:08,639 --> 01:34:10,840
uh where uh along the spectrum of a

1838
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,199
stakeholder you are in this I think this

1839
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:17,480
also Paramount Paramount speaks to uh

1840
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:20,119
the absolutely absolute need of our

1841
01:34:20,119 --> 01:34:22,080
households in this community to be more

1842
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:26,239
civically engaged and to do our part to

1843
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:28,719
you know hold city council accountable

1844
01:34:28,719 --> 01:34:30,040
to the things you want to see and the

1845
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,880
things that we need in this community um

1846
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,840
and I would hope that many of you

1847
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:36,520
continue to come to our future meetings

1848
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,960
and see how we're holding ourselves

1849
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,080
accountable to local issues local uh

1850
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,480
concerns um may have heard uh in the

1851
01:34:45,480 --> 01:34:47,040
previous meeting some of the things I

1852
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,360
have suggested for uh future agenda item

1853
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,320
ranging from a pay or equal pay

1854
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,040
ordinance to uh ways in which we can

1855
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,520
acknowledge our uh superintendent who

1856
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,480
had recently passed away

1857
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:03,880
so we need you here constantly uh we

1858
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:05,480
need you here to keep telling us what

1859
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:08,280
you want and what you expect and again I

1860
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,280
think this is a way in which we could

1861
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,960
still look past uh what happens today um

1862
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,639
whether folks agree or don't agree with

1863
01:35:18,639 --> 01:35:20,520
uh the ultimate language of the

1864
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,159
resolution um and I know Preston just

1865
01:35:23,159 --> 01:35:27,119
dying to to let us know and uh and uh

1866
01:35:27,119 --> 01:35:30,719
run that run that down on us but I

1867
01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:33,360
really do hope I sincerely hope that

1868
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,320
many of you who have been emailing and

1869
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:36,760
have been coming to the meeting continue

1870
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,880
to do so and uh as some of you in the

1871
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:43,119
space today uh are aware like I have

1872
01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:45,040
been trying my best to email everyone

1873
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,400
back whether you you agree with me or

1874
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,840
not I've been trying to be very uh

1875
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,080
intentful about that because I do

1876
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:54,960
appreciate people's feedback and I

1877
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,360
appreciate the level of Civic engagement

1878
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:02,239
that we all are having um again I just

1879
01:36:02,239 --> 01:36:03,880
wanted to take that opportunity to frame

1880
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,560
it for the folks that are here in this

1881
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,040
space right now and that you're still

1882
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,560
here you gave your public comments but

1883
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,239
you're still here still civically

1884
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:13,880
engaged and I do highly encourage that

1885
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,040
after this you you post about it you

1886
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,280
share your thoughts you share your

1887
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,239
opinions because that's part of the

1888
01:36:19,239 --> 01:36:22,280
democratic process that's part of uh

1889
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:26,080
seeing what the outcome can be um that's

1890
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,719
part of challenging the status quo

1891
01:36:27,719 --> 01:36:30,000
that's part of challenging uh how your

1892
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,480
elected representative uh choose to

1893
01:36:32,480 --> 01:36:36,159
represent you um and I just want to say

1894
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:37,719
I thoroughly do appreciate everyone

1895
01:36:37,719 --> 01:36:40,119
being here

1896
01:36:40,119 --> 01:36:42,040
um

1897
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,040
lastly I just want to

1898
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,000
also highlight and acknowledge though

1899
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,320
that um since October 7th uh

1900
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:56,480
particularly I know history in itself is

1901
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:59,679
quite complex and challenging to uh

1902
01:36:59,679 --> 01:37:01,679
unpack especially if you're not a

1903
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,520
someone who's directly uh involved in

1904
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,960
those spaces similarly how I don't

1905
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,880
expect people to understand um the

1906
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,360
complexity of my own indigeny connected

1907
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,719
to

1908
01:37:13,719 --> 01:37:18,440
Mexico um but I do want to take moment

1909
01:37:18,440 --> 01:37:20,080
to acknowledge that specifically since

1910
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:25,830
October 7th there has been um

1911
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,880
a clear concern in presence of uh folks

1912
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,080
voicing their

1913
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,440
um their hurts and their their pain

1914
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:38,040
around anything centered anything that

1915
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,880
pertains to anti-muslim anti- Arab

1916
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,719
anti-jewish

1917
01:37:43,719 --> 01:37:46,080
anti-semitic uh rhetoric and behavior

1918
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,480
and action and I think that's something

1919
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:50,760
that needs to be addressed and

1920
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,880
unequivocally stated by everyone on

1921
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,040
councel that

1922
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,960
those are acts that uh need to be uh

1923
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,119
fully uh acknowledged as something we

1924
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:04,520
don't condone and should never condone

1925
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,800
and that uh any form of that especially

1926
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,920
uh when folks feel like they are under

1927
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:17,040
uh direct uh danger or intimidation of

1928
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,639
violence that that be addressed um and

1929
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:22,840
again that's a way for us to move

1930
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,639
forward and look Beyond just a ceasefire

1931
01:38:25,639 --> 01:38:27,280
resolution but what can we do in our own

1932
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,719
Community what do you want us to see us

1933
01:38:29,719 --> 01:38:32,000
do what do you want city council to do

1934
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:36,000
to leverage our power to do so um so

1935
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,400
just close it out with saying thank you

1936
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,000
everyone for being here and uh providing

1937
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,679
your public comments and your opinions

1938
01:38:41,679 --> 01:38:44,360
and uh see how we take that into account

1939
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,320
as we move forward but would' love to

1940
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:52,109
hear what council member Jordan has to

1941
01:38:52,119 --> 01:38:55,320
say I don't don't have an email from you

1942
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:59,880
you don't have it uh oh that's not good

1943
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:03,520
um does somebody have a

1944
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,119
drive all right well I it's simple

1945
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:09,239
enough I think I can explain

1946
01:39:09,239 --> 01:39:11,599
so I can't if somebody gives me the

1947
01:39:11,599 --> 01:39:14,320
Wi-Fi password I keep Wi-Fi off so that

1948
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:15,480
I

1949
01:39:15,480 --> 01:39:17,880
know mayor while we troubles shoot this

1950
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:22,080
can I make some comments yes thank you

1951
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,520
um so so thank you to the rest of the

1952
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:28,920
council um for engaging on this and uh

1953
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,199
for all of your thoughts and especially

1954
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:32,719
thank you

1955
01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:37,320
to everybody here for the discussion and

1956
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,400
the civility I know as the mayor

1957
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,320
mentioned it has been difficult it's

1958
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,880
tense but I want to acknowledge that

1959
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,040
there are many communities that could

1960
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,520
not have gotten through this sort of

1961
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,599
meeting or this sort of conversation

1962
01:39:49,599 --> 01:39:52,480
without much much much more hostility uh

1963
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,520
and with there are many who couldn't

1964
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:56,520
really get through the meeting um and

1965
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:58,760
especially I've I've shared this with

1966
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,520
members of other elected offices and

1967
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,679
other cities that at the meeting when we

1968
01:40:02,679 --> 01:40:04,639
established the ad hoc we bookended our

1969
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:06,920
meeting with two items that had to do

1970
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,159
with this and were able to have a robust

1971
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:11,320
discussion about sidewalks in between

1972
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,719
there are many city councils that could

1973
01:40:13,719 --> 01:40:16,560
not do that uh and I very proud of our

1974
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,760
community that we have not boiled over

1975
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,480
in a way that makes it impossible for us

1976
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:22,199
to have those discussions or or even

1977
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:24,599
this discussion uh I think there are

1978
01:40:24,599 --> 01:40:26,960
also councils that would struggle to be

1979
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,360
even

1980
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,159
always uh 100% respectful and have a

1981
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:33,560
good discussion with each other on the

1982
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:37,320
dis so I am as I am always very

1983
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,960
appreciative that we have a council that

1984
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:40,920
speaks its conscience and works together

1985
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:42,560
and has a tremendous amount of respect

1986
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,400
for one another even if we do have

1987
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,639
differences of opinion on many things um

1988
01:40:47,639 --> 01:40:50,119
to Echo something that uh the other

1989
01:40:50,119 --> 01:40:52,239
council members and the mayor have

1990
01:40:52,239 --> 01:40:55,920
said this issue be has become a local

1991
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,080
one I think it's obvious to anyone who's

1992
01:40:58,080 --> 01:40:59,639
been attending our meetings or the

1993
01:40:59,639 --> 01:41:02,800
meetings of any neighboring cities uh

1994
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,679
this is a an issue that is present in

1995
01:41:04,679 --> 01:41:07,840
our community that is causing harm and

1996
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:12,320
it was simply put not working to have it

1997
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,000
be only something that we could be

1998
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,520
spoken at about and could not respond to

1999
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,280
uh that is all that was happening before

2000
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:23,880
this because it was not on our agenda

2001
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,760
and we cannot discuss things uh

2002
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,800
substantively when it is not on our

2003
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,320
agenda so this was a way for us to

2004
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,239
actually meet at head-on and talk about

2005
01:41:34,239 --> 01:41:35,520
what was happening in the community in

2006
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,360
the divisions and try and take some

2007
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,119
steps to uh recognize and heal

2008
01:41:42,119 --> 01:41:48,390
that

2009
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,320
um I think that as we've stated there

2010
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,080
are a lot of issues we can't solve uh

2011
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,639
and I would say no one is more aware of

2012
01:41:58,639 --> 01:42:00,480
the limits of their power than a local

2013
01:42:00,480 --> 01:42:03,040
elected and a city council person we

2014
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,679
know exactly what we can and cannot do

2015
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:07,480
uh and we are not going to

2016
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:10,000
single-handedly solve this crisis as the

2017
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,880
mayor said it may have little impact on

2018
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,880
even our own higher elected officials as

2019
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:17,480
much as I wish it would um and even on

2020
01:42:17,480 --> 01:42:19,760
the local level it won't do everything

2021
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,040
to address everything our community is

2022
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,960
feeling uh but instead it's it's taking

2023
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,159
the first or one of the first steps and

2024
01:42:29,159 --> 01:42:32,080
the subsequent steps are not wholly ones

2025
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,199
that the city government can or even

2026
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:37,719
should always lead uh there is work in

2027
01:42:37,719 --> 01:42:39,800
our community and work to address

2028
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:40,800
everything that's been brought up as

2029
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,159
part of this that we simply cannot do as

2030
01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:46,239
the city council or as the city it is it

2031
01:42:46,239 --> 01:42:48,360
is a a social issue that we will all

2032
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,400
have to deal with uh and I think a big

2033
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,280
part of that is addressing the hostility

2034
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,480
we feel for one another and the the ways

2035
01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:58,280
we paint each other uh you know as I've

2036
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,520
mentioned to the mayor in our

2037
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,880
meetings uh this has been a difficult

2038
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,960
issue to deal with and and a saddening

2039
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,360
and a frustrating one for a lot of

2040
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,440
reasons I think one of those is

2041
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:15,639
that the experience of painting each

2042
01:43:15,639 --> 01:43:17,440
other in the least flattering light we

2043
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,360
can uh you know even before we were

2044
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,880
talking about this resolution I have

2045
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,159
been called not a real Jew because of

2046
01:43:25,159 --> 01:43:28,040
positions I've taken on it and even more

2047
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,800
disturbing was in previous discussions

2048
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,440
we've had about this in the council I've

2049
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:33,560
heard uh

2050
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:38,320
people heckling uh uh commenters uh

2051
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,560
dismissing their lived experience of of

2052
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:46,199
uh what they've experienced uh as as

2053
01:43:46,199 --> 01:43:49,239
Jews who've experienced anti-Semitism as

2054
01:43:49,239 --> 01:43:52,159
Palestinians and Arabs or uh Muslims of

2055
01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:54,560
what they've experienced and the uh

2056
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:55,960
hatred theyve

2057
01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:00,199
experienced and I think that that is

2058
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:01,560
that's one of the most sading parts of

2059
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,199
this process and thing something will we

2060
01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:06,119
have to address and something that this

2061
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:10,280
resolution alone W won't address and uh

2062
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,080
that it can't we we've tried and we've

2063
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:14,800
put language in there that tries to go

2064
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,119
some of that way but as I mentioned in

2065
01:44:18,119 --> 01:44:19,159
the

2066
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:23,320
memo we have to do more to deal with

2067
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:24,920
hostility we feel towards each other

2068
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:29,080
especially on painting each other with

2069
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,960
uh these broad brushes my experience of

2070
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:33,800
my religion is not everyone else's

2071
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:39,480
experience um just as what some of my

2072
01:44:39,480 --> 01:44:41,719
opponents on some issues may say is not

2073
01:44:41,719 --> 01:44:44,599
representative of all of them we cannot

2074
01:44:44,599 --> 01:44:47,400
paint members of our own group as all

2075
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:49,440
the same and we cannot paint members of

2076
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:52,440
groups we disagree with as 100% the same

2077
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:53,880
I think it does a dis service to all of

2078
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,080
us and lowers the level of our

2079
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,679
discussion on important issues like this

2080
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:01,960
so I think this resolution goes a long

2081
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,360
way to to doing something about all of

2082
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,520
that it does not go all the way it it

2083
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,360
cannot it cannot solve these issues but

2084
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,880
it can be a step towards it and I

2085
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:13,520
appreciate the council and I appreciate

2086
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,639
everybody who had a part in giving us

2087
01:45:15,639 --> 01:45:17,239
feedback on that and who came to speak

2088
01:45:17,239 --> 01:45:19,360
to us about it here in meetings or in

2089
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:20,560
past

2090
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:28,390
meetings with that I think I'm done

2091
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,480
thank

2092
01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:32,239
you

2093
01:45:32,239 --> 01:45:34,920
um so the the first change I'm

2094
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:36,920
suggesting is that two of the findings

2095
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,560
really seem like resolves to me um that

2096
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,119
Albany condemns prejudice against people

2097
01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:47,639
who are perceived as being members

2098
01:45:47,639 --> 01:45:50,320
of um groups that have ancestry in the

2099
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,560
region one way or the other uh and that

2100
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,679
ALB reaffirms right to peacefully gather

2101
01:45:55,679 --> 01:45:57,480
um so I'm merely suggesting moving those

2102
01:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,800
to the resolve from the

2103
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:05,239
findings um and then I I heard the

2104
01:46:05,239 --> 01:46:06,599
comments

2105
01:46:06,599 --> 01:46:10,159
about switching over to active voice to

2106
01:46:10,159 --> 01:46:12,639
identify um those entities that are

2107
01:46:12,639 --> 01:46:13,639
doing The

2108
01:46:13,639 --> 01:46:17,400
Killing and to update the death toll so

2109
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:18,880
in the first case it specifically

2110
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,320
replaces says that 1200 citizens of

2111
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:23,440
Israel

2112
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:25,400
um and others were killed by Hamas and

2113
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,679
over 200 more have been killed since

2114
01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:30,119
then and that the killing is continuing

2115
01:46:30,119 --> 01:46:32,639
and then does the same um for the

2116
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:37,790
Palestinians and gazin who've been

2117
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,280
killed and um it recognized that our

2118
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:42,800
nation is the main supplier of weapons

2119
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,679
and detic support for

2120
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:48,199
Israel which to me is as I said one of

2121
01:46:48,199 --> 01:46:50,880
the two reasons I am I am motivated to

2122
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,320
this um

2123
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,000
and I added one finding which motivates

2124
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,480
the resolves against Prejudice

2125
01:47:01,480 --> 01:47:03,679
condemning Prejudice and reaffirming the

2126
01:47:03,679 --> 01:47:06,119
right to peacefully protest which

2127
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:10,239
regards the attack on pro-israel

2128
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:11,880
counter-protesters that occurred in

2129
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,560
elrio on January 6th and specifically

2130
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:19,840
notes that that one uh Pro Palestine

2131
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,040
protester um perpetrated the attack and

2132
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,639
is now charged with felonies with

2133
01:47:23,639 --> 01:47:26,400
special special hate crime allegations

2134
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,280
which

2135
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,960
is the more most formal and

2136
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,719
recognized is the most formal

2137
01:47:35,719 --> 01:47:38,560
please please allow Council to have

2138
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:42,480
conversation which is the most formal

2139
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:44,960
um matter of prejudice that has occurred

2140
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,239
in the areas of my knowledge uh this

2141
01:47:47,239 --> 01:47:50,400
this language is from the cost County um

2142
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,280
Sheriff's Department press release

2143
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,040
regarding what what the charges

2144
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,400
are and so in the green is the the

2145
01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:59,599
findings that have been brought down

2146
01:47:59,599 --> 01:48:01,239
from above and made

2147
01:48:01,239 --> 01:48:03,480
resolves and I don't recall if there's

2148
01:48:03,480 --> 01:48:04,960
any further

2149
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,199
changes city clerk if you scroll to the

2150
01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:11,560
scroll to the bottom oh yes um I'm not

2151
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,520
in support of sending this resolution

2152
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,560
outside of this country for me the the

2153
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,520
target of this resolution is our leaders

2154
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,480
in the United States um given our nation

2155
01:48:22,480 --> 01:48:23,920
support

2156
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,080
Israel in the ways that I've

2157
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:29,239
described I don't think it's in the

2158
01:48:29,239 --> 01:48:32,280
Constitutional Spirit based on decisions

2159
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,560
been made by the courts for us to be

2160
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:39,910
sending resolutions to leaders of other

2161
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:47,629
countries on any of that I welcome

2162
01:48:47,639 --> 01:48:50,159
uh on any of this I welcome your

2163
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:51,719
thoughts as to

2164
01:48:51,719 --> 01:49:01,229
why

2165
01:49:01,239 --> 01:49:02,760
I think the movement of the where two

2166
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,679
whereas statements uh to being uh be it

2167
01:49:05,679 --> 01:49:09,149
further resolved

2168
01:49:09,159 --> 01:49:11,880
um I will I don't necessarily have a

2169
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:13,159
problem with that as one of the authors

2170
01:49:13,159 --> 01:49:14,560
I I will say

2171
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,440
that Ain has been super helpful in me

2172
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:18,760
understanding where usually you put

2173
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,719
whereases and where you put

2174
01:49:21,719 --> 01:49:24,790
therefore

2175
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,440
statements um on moving those to the

2176
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:33,470
more active clauses I see the argument

2177
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:37,599
um I think they were in the were ases

2178
01:49:37,599 --> 01:49:40,360
versus the be therefore be it resolved

2179
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,239
Clauses as they

2180
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:45,560
were less the active thing that we were

2181
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,040
calling for and more the sort of

2182
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,320
background

2183
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:54,000
or things that would be if not obvious

2184
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,440
sort of already settled fact to some

2185
01:49:56,440 --> 01:49:59,480
extent um that you know we stand against

2186
01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:04,199
Prejudice in many forms um I I see the

2187
01:50:04,199 --> 01:50:09,350
argument um and

2188
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:20,669
I yeah I see the

2189
01:50:20,679 --> 01:50:24,080
argument I will add one item which is um

2190
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,800
in both your languages to the city the

2191
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,480
two where where which killings continue

2192
01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:34,040
to increase um we um we there is a

2193
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:35,679
whereas a few statements below that says

2194
01:50:35,679 --> 01:50:38,480
whereas millions of lives are at IM

2195
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:42,950
immin risk for continued

2196
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,480
hostilities and due to a lack of food

2197
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:46,880
and medical care we felt that that kind

2198
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,239
of covered the fact so we in one Essence

2199
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:51,119
we were trying to State what happened on

2200
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:55,239
October 7th what has occurred since um I

2201
01:50:55,239 --> 01:50:57,159
do think that there is the ability to

2202
01:50:57,159 --> 01:51:00,000
add in language uh to the effect that

2203
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,199
two and 200 more since uh since you know

2204
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:04,960
October 7th was one event and then the

2205
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:06,480
events that have happened since there

2206
01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:08,719
have been a quantifiable number of

2207
01:51:08,719 --> 01:51:11,639
people who have been killed in Israel as

2208
01:51:11,639 --> 01:51:15,239
well so I think that that I I could see

2209
01:51:15,239 --> 01:51:18,560
um if I could add on that

2210
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,159
I I yes I would Echo what the mayor said

2211
01:51:21,159 --> 01:51:23,440
I think that that Clause down there was

2212
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:26,280
trying to get at that um and I'll note

2213
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,350
that I I think one of

2214
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:28,599
[Music]

2215
01:51:28,599 --> 01:51:31,239
the difficult parts of writing this was

2216
01:51:31,239 --> 01:51:32,920
numbers

2217
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,960
was that in our meetings there were

2218
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,159
people on all sides of the issue who

2219
01:51:39,159 --> 01:51:40,360
wanted more numbers and there were

2220
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:41,599
people on all sides of the is who wanted

2221
01:51:41,599 --> 01:51:44,840
fewer numbers um

2222
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:48,760
and also finding numbers that are agreed

2223
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:54,000
upon uh gets difficult quite fast um um

2224
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:58,840
is is what I found um so that was the

2225
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,280
thought for having these is it felt that

2226
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,920
something needed to be Quantified um and

2227
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,560
like mayor said one of those is

2228
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,239
specifying the the numbers on one day

2229
01:52:09,239 --> 01:52:11,320
and one is specifying the numberers

2230
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:12,800
since and then another is saying that

2231
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,589
there are more lives at risk

2232
01:52:16,599 --> 01:52:19,880
uh I would say I prefer how we wrote it

2233
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:21,520
um originally on

2234
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,800
that

2235
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,960
okay noting I added one just one number

2236
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,719
yes you know me I like numbers um I

2237
01:52:29,719 --> 01:52:32,800
think sorry just yeah sure um I think

2238
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,679
one of the things that was conveyed to

2239
01:52:34,679 --> 01:52:38,679
us through that conversation is that um

2240
01:52:38,679 --> 01:52:42,560
one of the horrors of war is that you

2241
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,599
may never know the true number and so

2242
01:52:44,599 --> 01:52:48,440
any number you list is always going to

2243
01:52:48,440 --> 01:52:50,960
be who knows what the plus and minus on

2244
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,199
that is um not to say that we should

2245
01:52:53,199 --> 01:52:54,760
include it but just that was one of the

2246
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,079
other conversations about trying to

2247
01:52:56,079 --> 01:52:57,400
limit the number of numbers that we

2248
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:59,639
added but I do think the point that was

2249
01:52:59,639 --> 01:53:00,719
made by some of the members of the

2250
01:53:00,719 --> 01:53:02,239
public and the point that you're trying

2251
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,360
to make I believe is just that there

2252
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,719
were additional deaths after October 7th

2253
01:53:06,719 --> 01:53:09,360
since we only list October 7th right I'm

2254
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,719
just trying to make it symmetric

2255
01:53:11,719 --> 01:53:15,040
essentially um and thank you for the

2256
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:16,719
clarifications certainly for that

2257
01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:18,199
additional language of the killings

2258
01:53:18,199 --> 01:53:20,440
continue to increase to be to be

2259
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:22,920
removed probably the bigger issue is is

2260
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,159
the switch from passive to active voice

2261
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:28,920
so again having worked with you um and

2262
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,880
appreciate your skill and

2263
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,079
uh particularly going over my writing

2264
01:53:34,079 --> 01:53:36,880
when we work together um I would imagine

2265
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:38,599
you thought about passive voice versus

2266
01:53:38,599 --> 01:53:39,960
active voice on those and so there's

2267
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,159
probably maybe some thinking there um so

2268
01:53:43,159 --> 01:53:44,560
I don't know if you've been willing

2269
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,320
to explicate on that or not sure and

2270
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,599
I'll say I I I get the frustration there

2271
01:53:52,599 --> 01:53:55,159
as as I've probably given notes to you

2272
01:53:55,159 --> 01:53:56,679
of we should always strive for the

2273
01:53:56,679 --> 01:54:01,310
active voice in good writing

2274
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,239
um I think

2275
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:09,159
the overall idea there was there

2276
01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:12,000
were a lot of things we don't

2277
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,800
necessarily address in this resolution

2278
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,079
um and I recognize that there's folks

2279
01:54:18,079 --> 01:54:19,440
who want us to address more of them and

2280
01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:20,960
folks that want us to address less of

2281
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:24,589
them uh

2282
01:54:24,599 --> 01:54:28,159
I think the point one of the things that

2283
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:32,920
we talked about in writing is

2284
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,510
that there

2285
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,119
are issues that we can or cannot talk

2286
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:43,800
about here that open a long and sort of

2287
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,679
bottomless argument

2288
01:54:46,679 --> 01:54:48,599
um

2289
01:54:48,599 --> 01:54:52,560
that we could try and address or we

2290
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,599
focus on

2291
01:54:54,599 --> 01:54:58,599
the pain and suffering that is being

2292
01:54:58,599 --> 01:55:01,679
experienced uh rather than trying to

2293
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:06,520
spell out each part of that um and I I

2294
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,920
get that that does not uh fulfill the

2295
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:12,000
hopes of of everyone

2296
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,239
um but it it felt like the thing that

2297
01:55:15,239 --> 01:55:18,440
got to our intent of of recognizing the

2298
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,000
crisis

2299
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:24,950
without focusing on

2300
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,840
every part of it that and how it could

2301
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,320
be expressed and how it could be

2302
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:34,629
disagreed with

2303
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:39,480
and who we wanted to identify or not

2304
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,840
um so I'll leave it at that unless the

2305
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,880
mayor wants to add anything on

2306
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:50,589
that I think you summ that up

2307
01:55:50,599 --> 01:55:52,840
well yeah I mean I I heard among the

2308
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,159
comments

2309
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,719
from those who both support moving

2310
01:55:56,719 --> 01:55:59,679
forward with this not

2311
01:55:59,679 --> 01:56:03,790
that the the passive voice

2312
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:08,560
was opposed um and so I do prefer

2313
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,000
actually naming the parties because

2314
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,679
otherwise

2315
01:56:11,679 --> 01:56:15,280
it it's into a natural disaster the way

2316
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,840
it reads currently um so that that would

2317
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:25,950
be my preference we'll see where it goes

2318
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,920
um city clerk if you could remove which

2319
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,520
killings continue to

2320
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,560
increase council member Lopez were you

2321
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:34,360
about

2322
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:39,679
to yeah in the section in which the uh

2323
01:56:39,679 --> 01:56:45,320
January 6 uh protest was uh

2324
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,199
mentioned sorry uh public comment is

2325
01:56:48,199 --> 01:56:49,599
closed at this

2326
01:56:49,599 --> 01:56:51,239
point

2327
01:56:51,239 --> 01:56:52,880
um

2328
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:57,400
I do have a couple concerns there uh one

2329
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,719
that it's framed as Pro Palestine

2330
01:56:59,719 --> 01:57:01,880
protest when to my knowledge how it was

2331
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,920
publicized with the ceasefire rally um

2332
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:11,239
but two um I think we we as a council

2333
01:57:11,239 --> 01:57:15,360
can absolutely condemn any acts of uh of

2334
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:18,760
hate towards any specific group what I

2335
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:23,040
do worry about is uh the rapid that that

2336
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:24,679
uh whereas statement could potentially

2337
01:57:24,679 --> 01:57:27,599
drive us towards um just speaking as

2338
01:57:27,599 --> 01:57:29,920
someone who has been system

2339
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,920
impacted and uh the potentiality of a

2340
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,880
whole city uh making a statement towards

2341
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,239
you uh I believe in innocent until

2342
01:57:40,239 --> 01:57:44,320
proven guilty um I know

2343
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,400
the the videos that is your final

2344
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,320
warning I will ask you to be escorted

2345
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,760
out of the room if you cannot

2346
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,000
um maintain

2347
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,159
silence I do know there's video

2348
01:57:56,159 --> 01:57:58,880
surfacing around that clearly does show

2349
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:03,079
um hateful act that did occur and I

2350
01:58:03,079 --> 01:58:04,599
believe that's something we need to let

2351
01:58:04,599 --> 01:58:07,920
our justice system handle accordingly

2352
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:13,920
and properly without City making uh any

2353
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,400
particular uh statement around that uh I

2354
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,199
don't know and I think this is where I

2355
01:58:19,199 --> 01:58:22,440
also would defer to our City attorney um

2356
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,599
if including a statement like that would

2357
01:58:24,599 --> 01:58:26,639
put us in any type of legal situation

2358
01:58:26,639 --> 01:58:31,470
with the

2359
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,920
accused the there's no issue with

2360
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:37,280
including that statement it's a policy

2361
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:43,510
decision for the

2362
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,470
council

2363
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:50,320
um this I think this this this weas

2364
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:51,560
Clause that we're on right now I think

2365
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,280
falls into one of those categories

2366
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,360
where Aon and I had many discussions

2367
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,239
about um and I think the one thing that

2368
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:02,840
we came to realize in our conversations

2369
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,320
with members of the public was their

2370
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:08,880
lived experiences of that day's

2371
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,560
events were not always the

2372
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:14,760
same and I think there are things that

2373
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:19,079
we know and we can absolutely say um the

2374
01:59:19,079 --> 01:59:20,760
police have arrested this person on

2375
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:22,679
charges of these things

2376
01:59:22,679 --> 01:59:25,679
but I would I would say that based on

2377
01:59:25,679 --> 01:59:27,119
the discussions that I heard and the

2378
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:29,840
Shar the lived experience of many people

2379
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:33,639
is that while the violence and the

2380
01:59:33,639 --> 01:59:34,800
physical

2381
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:38,079
assault um one person has been arrested

2382
01:59:38,079 --> 01:59:41,440
on those charges it was not only one

2383
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,400
person or one side that

2384
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,040
was

2385
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,480
um I don't want to say violent but I

2386
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,040
would say I would not say that that the

2387
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,599
disagreements that were were happening

2388
01:59:52,599 --> 01:59:54,000
or that the conversations that were

2389
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,239
having or the animated discussions or

2390
01:59:56,239 --> 01:59:57,079
however you want to describe we're

2391
01:59:57,079 --> 01:59:59,719
having were solely one-sided or at least

2392
01:59:59,719 --> 02:00:01,440
that they weren't perceived as solely

2393
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,800
one-sided and so I worry that the

2394
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,000
statement as written at least is very

2395
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:08,079
divisive versus saying something to the

2396
02:00:08,079 --> 02:00:10,199
effect of what I mentioned earlier where

2397
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:12,159
what was intended to be a

2398
02:00:12,159 --> 02:00:14,920
peaceful reality and protest turned

2399
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,199
violent because for some it was violent

2400
02:00:18,199 --> 02:00:20,159
because they were verbally assaulted as

2401
02:00:20,159 --> 02:00:22,560
they tried to leave a restroom while

2402
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,280
holding a sign they weren't physically

2403
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:26,599
assaulted but they were verbally

2404
02:00:26,599 --> 02:00:27,719
assaulted and

2405
02:00:27,719 --> 02:00:30,079
intimidated for others and the example

2406
02:00:30,079 --> 02:00:31,280
has written

2407
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:33,880
here I do not know the entire story I

2408
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:35,800
have heard different sides of the story

2409
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,400
but in the end there was a person who

2410
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,320
took a flag

2411
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,920
someone was assaulted and that flag was

2412
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,079
attempted to be burned and so that one I

2413
02:00:45,079 --> 02:00:46,840
think there's more documentation of but

2414
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:49,520
there are other stories and other lived

2415
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:50,800
experiences that I don't believe this

2416
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,960
encapsulates and that's why

2417
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,760
I have generally kept it to that there

2418
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:56,719
generally was a level of violence and

2419
02:00:56,719 --> 02:00:58,920
intimidation that was occurring that day

2420
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,639
which is not in keeping with us as

2421
02:01:01,639 --> 02:01:03,320
Albany and our goals and our strives and

2422
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:06,000
I understand as a community as a person

2423
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,239
you don't always meet those goals or

2424
02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:10,520
morals that you try and set for yourself

2425
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,159
U but I felt that this was one that

2426
02:01:12,159 --> 02:01:15,520
truly just went beyond um what what

2427
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:17,800
happened and and I think again this is

2428
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:20,639
why I think all those and I truly

2429
02:01:20,639 --> 02:01:22,199
appreciate the time that people spent in

2430
02:01:22,199 --> 02:01:24,520
talking with us because in hearing those

2431
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,480
shared experiences I've learned so much

2432
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,800
more and I recognize that I have so much

2433
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:32,880
more to learn but I recognize that that

2434
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,480
um we were super cautious in what we

2435
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:39,910
wrote in here because of

2436
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:43,320
that I'll just to briefly add to that I

2437
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,040
I think

2438
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,079
that gets

2439
02:01:47,079 --> 02:01:50,840
to something I was saying earlier

2440
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,040
of

2441
02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:55,079
I think one of the the things we ran

2442
02:01:55,079 --> 02:01:59,239
into in writing is that there are things

2443
02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:02,159
that could be in here that start to

2444
02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:05,480
become a point of disagreement about the

2445
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,880
facts of the state of

2446
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:11,040
play um rather than what we're trying to

2447
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:14,400
say about a statement of our values

2448
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,639
um and what the mayor was mentioning is

2449
02:02:17,639 --> 02:02:21,360
a good example of that of you know the

2450
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:22,599
what people are saying about what

2451
02:02:22,599 --> 02:02:27,000
happened uh at that protest match up 80%

2452
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,000
and then there's divergences

2453
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:32,760
um and so I think we uh uh we made a lot

2454
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:35,520
of decisions in a lot of this language

2455
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:39,360
to try and focus it on the statement of

2456
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,159
values rather than the points that could

2457
02:02:41,159 --> 02:02:45,560
individually then be a point of just

2458
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:47,719
going down the rabbit hole of I disagree

2459
02:02:47,719 --> 02:02:50,040
about the statement of fact that the

2460
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,719
facts are disagreed on um and I think

2461
02:02:52,719 --> 02:02:54,199
you know that's a problem in even our

2462
02:02:54,199 --> 02:02:56,679
normal discussions about normal items we

2463
02:02:56,679 --> 02:02:58,840
deal with and it's especially an issue

2464
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,960
in this one uh so I think that was a

2465
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:02,920
that was a big reason there and why we

2466
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:06,040
stuck with the sort of larger statement

2467
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:07,920
that you've moved down to an more active

2468
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,040
clause about that people should be able

2469
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:12,440
to say what they want and no one should

2470
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:16,079
be um attacked or experiened hatred or

2471
02:03:16,079 --> 02:03:18,079
anything like

2472
02:03:18,079 --> 02:03:20,560
that as a before

2473
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,000
you just just before you say anything

2474
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:27,560
just sure to um um that being said I'm

2475
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,880
not opposed to necessarily having awas

2476
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:32,760
acknowledging that January 6th happened

2477
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,840
right that is a fact it is and this is

2478
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:36,960
where we get into this whole how do we

2479
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,480
write the language but like um

2480
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:41,800
acknowledging the January 6 happened

2481
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,440
acknowledging you know I we mentioned we

2482
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,199
mentioned particularly the violence and

2483
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:49,000
intimidation that has been put upon

2484
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,719
elected officials and not even

2485
02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:53,119
necessarily talking about our elect

2486
02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:56,679
officials actually I think in our

2487
02:03:56,679 --> 02:03:58,800
community I personally have not received

2488
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,280
any of that there have been heated

2489
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:02,000
discussions and there have been very

2490
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,040
pointed comments but that is different

2491
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:07,480
than going after someone personally or

2492
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:11,159
going after someone's family right so I

2493
02:04:11,159 --> 02:04:13,040
I do want to acknowledge that so so

2494
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:14,559
having aware as that we acknowledge

2495
02:04:14,559 --> 02:04:17,079
January 6 and we acknowledge the greater

2496
02:04:17,079 --> 02:04:20,159
instability kind of to have these

2497
02:04:20,159 --> 02:04:22,880
peaceful protests in the area I think

2498
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,079
I'm I would be comfortable with it would

2499
02:04:25,079 --> 02:04:26,880
be much more explicit than than the

2500
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:28,800
whereas that you move to be further

2501
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:31,199
resolved I'm comfortable having that but

2502
02:04:31,199 --> 02:04:32,800
it

2503
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,239
is it is about how you write that

2504
02:04:35,239 --> 02:04:38,480
language to be sensitive to the fact

2505
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,000
that that we don't want it to be a

2506
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,079
debate

2507
02:04:41,079 --> 02:04:43,719
about everyone's telling someone that

2508
02:04:43,719 --> 02:04:45,000
their lived experience wasn't their

2509
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,760
lived experience

2510
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,880
say I appreciate your deliberation and

2511
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,719
thoughts and that would ask city clerk

2512
02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:57,350
to remove that whereas if she

2513
02:04:57,360 --> 02:04:59,840
would I appreciate your openness to

2514
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:04,229
including something but to the point

2515
02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:07,920
of not trying to really write in detail

2516
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,239
here um I mean I'm obviously pushing the

2517
02:05:10,239 --> 02:05:11,760
pushing the envelope with what I'm doing

2518
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,069
as it is

2519
02:05:15,079 --> 02:05:17,000
um

2520
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,760
uh may I offer a change to your now

2521
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,320
therefore be it resolved sure yeah the

2522
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:23,719
city of Aly

2523
02:05:23,719 --> 02:05:26,760
condemns the violence that occurred on

2524
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:32,069
January 6th of this

2525
02:05:32,079 --> 02:05:34,760
year and we could uh yeah so we'd remove

2526
02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:37,960
all that up to on January

2527
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:40,679
6th uh in in elero I think we would add

2528
02:05:40,679 --> 02:05:48,990
at the

2529
02:05:49,000 --> 02:05:54,870
end yeah I guess

2530
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:56,960
enough no no no no I don't mind not I

2531
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,199
I'm trepidacious about I have

2532
02:05:59,199 --> 02:06:02,320
trepidation about including an Elso

2533
02:06:02,320 --> 02:06:03,800
because it's not clear to me that it was

2534
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:07,199
only an Elso y um because you you raised

2535
02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:08,199
the point

2536
02:06:08,199 --> 02:06:11,599
of various things happen that day and I

2537
02:06:11,599 --> 02:06:13,280
would guess from what you've heard they

2538
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:16,960
didn't all happen in elero correct um

2539
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:20,000
so uh I think we do need to say on

2540
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,199
January 6th of this year

2541
02:06:22,199 --> 02:06:24,679
something about occurred at the at the

2542
02:06:24,679 --> 02:06:26,960
protesting counter protest on January 6

2543
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,119
otherwise there's no finding so nobody's

2544
02:06:29,119 --> 02:06:30,079
G even know what we're talking about

2545
02:06:30,079 --> 02:06:30,920
they're going to think we're talking

2546
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,840
about

2547
02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,360
2021 this year so it could just be

2548
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:38,599
occurred at the protest and counter

2549
02:06:38,599 --> 02:06:41,559
protest on January

2550
02:06:41,559 --> 02:06:45,000
6th at the ceasefire at the ceasefire

2551
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:48,790
protest counter protest

2552
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:52,400
yeah might I also suggest the addition

2553
02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,400
after violence to

2554
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,599
State the violence and hostilities

2555
02:06:57,599 --> 02:07:01,719
because uh folks though they may not

2556
02:07:01,719 --> 02:07:04,760
have felt uh or endured any specific

2557
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:08,880
type of physical violence um are verbal

2558
02:07:08,880 --> 02:07:11,239
um we've have heard and we have seen

2559
02:07:11,239 --> 02:07:13,440
many emails where folks have expressed

2560
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,639
that they've endured a certain level of

2561
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,719
hostility I think that's worth

2562
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:30,270
acknowledging uh in this statement

2563
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:32,000
thank

2564
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:36,239
you um and I think we already I think we

2565
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:37,559
already

2566
02:07:37,559 --> 02:07:41,079
um reach consensus on those two findings

2567
02:07:41,079 --> 02:07:44,199
being moved to where the to resolve um

2568
02:07:44,199 --> 02:07:47,440
and so I think the last thing is whether

2569
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,360
or not this gets sent to leaders in

2570
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:56,589
other countries

2571
02:07:56,599 --> 02:08:01,320
so this this again comes to um I'm

2572
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:04,480
sorry I'll also take off my mask I I

2573
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,400
think this hearkens back to

2574
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,280
um our attempt here was to ask really

2575
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,559
all sides to come to the table with a

2576
02:08:12,559 --> 02:08:15,880
good faith effort and for this to be a

2577
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,400
document that was simply being sent to

2578
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:22,400
our US representatives meant that

2579
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:24,920
it could be inferred that our intent was

2580
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,119
only for it to be for the US to pressure

2581
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:30,119
Israel as opposed to um the us through

2582
02:08:30,119 --> 02:08:32,960
the UN pressuring using pressure to get

2583
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,280
all the nations to work together to get

2584
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:37,079
everyone who is a party to this

2585
02:08:37,079 --> 02:08:39,280
conversation about finding an end to the

2586
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:42,719
hostilities to the table in good faith

2587
02:08:42,719 --> 02:08:45,920
um we understand

2588
02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:48,559
that Israeli government doesn't have to

2589
02:08:48,559 --> 02:08:50,079
listen to us and probably won't list us

2590
02:08:50,079 --> 02:08:52,280
we understand that the the Hamas

2591
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:54,159
leadership well we're not I'm not even

2592
02:08:54,159 --> 02:08:57,360
sure where we would mail that to but um

2593
02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:59,800
but you know we list we list these other

2594
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,599
groups Qatar and Iran because Iran and

2595
02:09:02,599 --> 02:09:04,920
Qatar are those are the groups are the

2596
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:07,719
two countries that are working are my

2597
02:09:07,719 --> 02:09:09,360
understanding with Hamas on the other

2598
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,480
side of the table to come to some form

2599
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:13,400
of end to the hostilities and so we are

2600
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:15,840
trying to pretty much say we would like

2601
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:17,360
this resolution to be sent to everyone

2602
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:19,199
so that everyone understands the pain

2603
02:09:19,199 --> 02:09:20,400
and suffering that our community is

2604
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,559
going through um that is really being

2605
02:09:22,559 --> 02:09:25,199
enacted by the fact that U both sides

2606
02:09:25,199 --> 02:09:27,199
are not coming to an agreement on an end

2607
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:30,229
to the

2608
02:09:30,239 --> 02:09:33,199
hostilities I I totally understand your

2609
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:34,559
point though

2610
02:09:34,559 --> 02:09:36,960
that they may not listen to anything

2611
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,159
that we right or or that it's not really

2612
02:09:38,159 --> 02:09:40,320
an our perview but yeah it's more that

2613
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:42,480
it's not that they won't listen I mean I

2614
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:43,679
think

2615
02:09:43,679 --> 02:09:45,800
that's the the probability they will

2616
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:48,119
listen is di Minimus is a word used in

2617
02:09:48,119 --> 02:09:49,760
risk assessment in my world which means

2618
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:51,199
you know so negligible is not even one

2619
02:09:51,199 --> 02:09:54,520
thing about um I I will also add one

2620
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:57,520
other thing that are um be further

2621
02:09:57,520 --> 02:10:00,800
resolved we before we added yours so

2622
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:04,920
let's just we're put in kind of order of

2623
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:08,520
of what we saw as the most actionable

2624
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,480
items we as City Council Members we as a

2625
02:10:11,480 --> 02:10:14,520
community can do so the

2626
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,920
first further resolved was what can we

2627
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:22,119
as a community do the next was kind of

2628
02:10:22,119 --> 02:10:26,960
what we hope for and then who is Ascent

2629
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:31,400
to and I think who was Ascent to

2630
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,239
is the the one that that I would just

2631
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:37,360
say they were put in order of of um

2632
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,000
where we saw the mo we had the most

2633
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:44,880
impact local to remote yeah to reiterate

2634
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:48,599
and and Echo that point you know like

2635
02:10:48,599 --> 02:10:50,280
like I've mentioned a couple times we

2636
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,159
had the the the two intents we were

2637
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:53,679
trying to get

2638
02:10:53,679 --> 02:10:56,599
to

2639
02:10:56,599 --> 02:11:00,559
and this Clause I don't think

2640
02:11:00,559 --> 02:11:04,599
is 100% necessary to either of them it

2641
02:11:04,599 --> 02:11:08,400
is a sort of standard it's you know the

2642
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:09,760
many of the other resolutions that other

2643
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,679
cities have passed have a list of uh

2644
02:11:12,679 --> 02:11:14,239
usually American elected officials that

2645
02:11:14,239 --> 02:11:16,480
also includes a lot of local ones that

2646
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,920
uh we thought you know there may not be

2647
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:23,559
a ton of utility sending it that um but

2648
02:11:23,559 --> 02:11:26,920
was also the one

2649
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,480
that in the process of editing I had

2650
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:32,199
very little problem editing this Clause

2651
02:11:32,199 --> 02:11:34,280
because the lot of what we were trying

2652
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:37,000
to do was recognize more what people are

2653
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:41,159
feeling get more that of what gets

2654
02:11:41,159 --> 02:11:43,719
across the intent and nothing that we

2655
02:11:43,719 --> 02:11:45,639
changed in this Clause to me really

2656
02:11:45,639 --> 02:11:47,719
affected getting across the intent and

2657
02:11:47,719 --> 02:11:49,280
making that core statement of values

2658
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:55,229
which was the goal

2659
02:11:55,239 --> 02:11:57,960
yes but sending this outside of the

2660
02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:00,390
country

2661
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,920
is is more than just about the feelings

2662
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:06,760
the intent it's an actual formal act um

2663
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:09,079
that I'm not I'm not comfortable with in

2664
02:12:09,079 --> 02:12:12,360
terms of the role of the city I mean the

2665
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:15,079
reason I support this is because our

2666
02:12:15,079 --> 02:12:17,360
nation's government is involved in one

2667
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:19,040
side of this and I want to pressure our

2668
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:20,599
nation's leaders to do something

2669
02:12:20,599 --> 02:12:23,430
differently

2670
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:26,000
and to me that's the appropriate remit

2671
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:27,320
of this

2672
02:12:27,320 --> 02:12:29,159
body

2673
02:12:29,159 --> 02:12:31,960
um I I'm not in this to try to

2674
02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,480
pressure from from my position here to

2675
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,599
pressure leaders of governments of other

2676
02:12:36,599 --> 02:12:38,960
nations and other bodies to do something

2677
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:50,109
that is beyond for me that is beyond my

2678
02:12:50,119 --> 02:12:54,430
remit

2679
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:57,320
I'm I I will just I inclined to leave

2680
02:12:57,320 --> 02:13:00,079
leave leave that where that uh be it

2681
02:13:00,079 --> 02:13:05,709
further resolved as

2682
02:13:05,719 --> 02:13:09,199
is I think I would agree with that I I

2683
02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:17,589
get the worry um I I very much do

2684
02:13:17,599 --> 02:13:29,350
um but I'm I'm comfortable with it

2685
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,920
all right well I guess I'll make a

2686
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,679
motion we did not sorry we did not

2687
02:13:35,679 --> 02:13:37,520
discuss

2688
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:41,760
um the additional language about

2689
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:45,520
um because the US provides weapons and

2690
02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:48,280
as a statement uh so just want to make

2691
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:53,069
sure uh because that is a change in that

2692
02:13:53,079 --> 02:13:55,679
um that is probably one of the whereases

2693
02:13:55,679 --> 02:13:58,960
that went through many

2694
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:02,030
iterations

2695
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,679
um I'll I'll

2696
02:14:04,679 --> 02:14:08,159
say this whereas in the language you've

2697
02:14:08,159 --> 02:14:10,800
added is a great example

2698
02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:14,960
of something I think I mentioned earlier

2699
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:17,280
around I would love to write everything

2700
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:20,159
as simply and clearly as possible often

2701
02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:22,760
that was not possible with this

2702
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:25,159
resolution I think the simplest and

2703
02:14:25,159 --> 02:14:28,360
clearest way in a lot of ways

2704
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:32,559
that is in the good resolution language

2705
02:14:32,559 --> 02:14:35,559
to me was saying this clause and the the

2706
02:14:35,559 --> 02:14:37,800
simple way of America is uniquely

2707
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:40,159
situated and that encapsulates a lot of

2708
02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:42,480
things

2709
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:45,239
um it's a it's a choice of whether we

2710
02:14:45,239 --> 02:14:49,350
spell it out or not but I think it is

2711
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:52,800
not to to have it still as saying that

2712
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,079
America is

2713
02:14:55,079 --> 02:14:58,360
uniquely involved and able to affect

2714
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:01,400
things here is not saying that there's

2715
02:15:01,400 --> 02:15:03,320
not this going on and I think

2716
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:05,199
acknowledges it in some way in that we

2717
02:15:05,199 --> 02:15:07,440
are uniquely qualified because we are a

2718
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:10,159
very strong diplomatic link with Israel

2719
02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:12,440
and because we are supplying a great

2720
02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:15,960
deal of weapons and material support to

2721
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,440
them

2722
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:21,840
so the the goal is not to

2723
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:24,239
not acknowledge that it is to

2724
02:15:24,239 --> 02:15:27,239
acknowledge that and much more by having

2725
02:15:27,239 --> 02:15:30,000
it as we are uniquely qualified in many

2726
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,470
different

2727
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:36,159
ways and I just to maybe focus on that a

2728
02:15:36,159 --> 02:15:39,000
little bit is that in in in the language

2729
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,040
as written you specifically call out is

2730
02:15:41,040 --> 02:15:43,679
Israel but the reality is our nation has

2731
02:15:43,679 --> 02:15:45,280
also relationships with other countries

2732
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:48,440
in the area who could be doing more to

2733
02:15:48,440 --> 02:15:50,239
provide humanitarian they could be doing

2734
02:15:50,239 --> 02:15:53,280
more to to allow Palestines a place to

2735
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:56,440
move to safety while the conflict is

2736
02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:59,559
going on and so um really by not calling

2737
02:15:59,559 --> 02:16:01,400
out Israel we're saying yes we have

2738
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:02,800
influence on Israel but we also have

2739
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:04,320
influence on other countries in the

2740
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,480
region uh and we have other methods of

2741
02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:10,400
providing influence to try and secure an

2742
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,360
end to the hostilities and really the

2743
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:15,719
humanitarian crisis and so

2744
02:16:15,719 --> 02:16:18,559
um again there

2745
02:16:18,559 --> 02:16:22,440
was a lot of time spent on on when when

2746
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:25,280
and where we call out

2747
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:28,639
um Israel and Hamas essentially in in

2748
02:16:28,639 --> 02:16:30,920
this

2749
02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:33,280
resolution just chime in my two sense

2750
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:35,719
really quick here is um when I seen the

2751
02:16:35,719 --> 02:16:37,800
original statement I think I had very

2752
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:41,439
similar concerns as you Preston or

2753
02:16:41,439 --> 02:16:45,920
council member Jordan um but you know

2754
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:47,319
not just coming from the hyper

2755
02:16:47,319 --> 02:16:49,960
Progressive in me uh wanting

2756
02:16:49,960 --> 02:16:51,439
accountability

2757
02:16:51,439 --> 02:16:53,120
but I think it's also important you know

2758
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:56,439
as an elected to like separate that um

2759
02:16:56,439 --> 02:17:01,120
my personal bias and experience um and

2760
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:03,639
acknowledg and I think uh council member

2761
02:17:03,639 --> 02:17:05,479
tman you hit the nail on the head there

2762
02:17:05,479 --> 02:17:07,240
with you know looking for a statement

2763
02:17:07,240 --> 02:17:09,200
that more or less encap encapsulates it

2764
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:11,920
all because as that I was going back and

2765
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:14,439
reading it on my own I was like I'm I'm

2766
02:17:14,439 --> 02:17:16,399
struggling with this because it's not

2767
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:18,319
calling out what our country is being

2768
02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:22,160
complicit with um but then it kind of

2769
02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:23,479
took a step back you know took a

2770
02:17:23,479 --> 02:17:26,319
breather and you know acknowledged

2771
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:27,559
internally

2772
02:17:27,559 --> 02:17:29,760
that if we want to acknowledge what our

2773
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:31,040
country is doing what our country is

2774
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:34,040
complicit with um that would probably be

2775
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:36,760
a couple Pages worth of lifting out

2776
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:40,160
things and uh and so I have my

2777
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:41,599
reservation because this more or less

2778
02:17:41,599 --> 02:17:46,120
Cherry picks what uh the US government

2779
02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:49,280
is doing but I don't even I don't think

2780
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:51,880
it even scratches the surface of how how

2781
02:17:51,880 --> 02:17:54,240
uh horribly complicit our US government

2782
02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:58,040
and our federal leaders uh

2783
02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:01,639
are uh behav in the situation uh which

2784
02:18:01,639 --> 02:18:04,359
is why I'm I'm more or less uh in the

2785
02:18:04,359 --> 02:18:06,040
camp of leaving the statement as it

2786
02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:09,319
originally was because then again we

2787
02:18:09,319 --> 02:18:11,040
risk going down this Rabbit Hole well we

2788
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:12,679
should mention this and this and this

2789
02:18:12,679 --> 02:18:15,200
and this and then it just I think it

2790
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,439
become tiring because then it's going to

2791
02:18:17,439 --> 02:18:18,840
reach a point where nobody's going to

2792
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,519
ever be satisfied or it's just GNA

2793
02:18:21,519 --> 02:18:24,000
um induce a lot of anger and frustration

2794
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:26,990
as

2795
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:28,840
well thank you again for your

2796
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,679
deliberation I appreciate it

2797
02:18:32,679 --> 02:18:35,599
um I think uh we can agree city clerk if

2798
02:18:35,599 --> 02:18:38,679
you could remove the additions to the

2799
02:18:38,679 --> 02:18:43,319
whereas after our nation which I know

2800
02:18:43,319 --> 02:18:46,559
is a few different pieces

2801
02:18:46,559 --> 02:18:49,709
there

2802
02:18:49,719 --> 02:19:01,750
um

2803
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:03,319
I think it's well I think it's our

2804
02:19:03,319 --> 02:19:05,120
nation and our

2805
02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:07,439
nation's uh was it our nation and our

2806
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:10,160
nation's leaders was the original our

2807
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:12,319
nation and our leaders our nation and

2808
02:19:12,319 --> 02:19:19,709
our leaders

2809
02:19:19,719 --> 02:19:27,830
okay

2810
02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:29,960
and then I think there was maybe

2811
02:19:29,960 --> 02:19:34,040
another which killings continue up above

2812
02:19:34,040 --> 02:19:35,240
and needed to be

2813
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:38,629
deleted further

2814
02:19:38,639 --> 02:19:42,160
up there were two occurrences of that um

2815
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:44,719
yeah wish killings continued to increase

2816
02:19:44,719 --> 02:19:47,800
so there's a a prior instance of that

2817
02:19:47,800 --> 02:19:49,640
yeah that needs to be

2818
02:19:49,640 --> 02:19:56,070
deleted

2819
02:19:56,080 --> 02:19:58,680
okay I'll briefly just State thank you

2820
02:19:58,680 --> 02:20:01,720
city clerk for doing this on the flight

2821
02:20:01,720 --> 02:20:04,920
we appreciate it real

2822
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:08,680
time so I think I think we've reached

2823
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,120
agreement except on the last bit which

2824
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:12,640
is whether to Senate outside the country

2825
02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:14,920
or not maybe I'm wrong could we scroll

2826
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:16,399
down so I can make sure I'm remembering

2827
02:20:16,399 --> 02:20:19,630
everything that's in

2828
02:20:19,640 --> 02:20:25,950
there

2829
02:20:25,960 --> 02:20:28,080
I think under the last whereas if we

2830
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:31,359
could please strike the colon and and

2831
02:20:31,359 --> 02:20:36,790
change that to period

2832
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:39,439
pleas thank you I double checked that I

2833
02:20:39,439 --> 02:20:41,319
was doing that correctly in the original

2834
02:20:41,319 --> 02:20:43,280
version so for the record I'd like to

2835
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,319
say that Preston added that and

2836
02:20:46,319 --> 02:20:51,920
not it was in Red so yes thank you

2837
02:20:51,920 --> 02:20:54,120
I'm related to too many lawyers to let

2838
02:20:54,120 --> 02:21:04,429
that go unnoticed

2839
02:21:04,439 --> 02:21:07,319
so this is a unique situation I wouldn't

2840
02:21:07,319 --> 02:21:09,160
normally obsess about words so much but

2841
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:10,880
this is pretty much all about

2842
02:21:10,880 --> 02:21:13,399
words yes I was very glad that Aaron

2843
02:21:13,399 --> 02:21:19,550
joined me council member tedan joined

2844
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:33,830
me

2845
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:35,280
did not want us to end up editing

2846
02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:38,399
language on the Das as I said but I I

2847
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:40,000
appreciate the discussion about it again

2848
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:41,319
I think there are't a lot of councils

2849
02:21:41,319 --> 02:21:43,319
that could have this sort of discussion

2850
02:21:43,319 --> 02:21:47,080
um so it I am appreciative um that we

2851
02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,920
have and I

2852
02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:51,359
think I'm always very attached my own

2853
02:21:51,359 --> 02:21:55,280
language I can make my peace with this I

2854
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:57,840
I would still disagree with the the

2855
02:21:57,840 --> 02:22:00,840
changes to the final Clause I I think it

2856
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:02,319
from my perspective it costs us nothing

2857
02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:03,600
to

2858
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:06,840
include I'm happy to yield on

2859
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:11,280
that in the spirit of Comedy not comedy

2860
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:16,070
but comedy with a

2861
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:19,399
t so City Clerk in that case we would um

2862
02:22:19,399 --> 02:22:22,359
unri uh um in the last Clause be it

2863
02:22:22,359 --> 02:22:25,160
further resolved um un strike everything

2864
02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:26,840
that's red I don't know if that's actual

2865
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:28,920
edits or if that's just a stri their

2866
02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:31,359
edits okay but I mean I think is that a

2867
02:22:31,359 --> 02:22:32,600
right she's not gonna be able to she's

2868
02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:33,920
not gonna be able to un strike it I

2869
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:37,720
don't well maybe oh yeah right on okay

2870
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:40,080
this okay

2871
02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,560
great city clerk if I may ask that if we

2872
02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:44,680
could go to the top of the Proclamation

2873
02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:46,080
just to verify that we've gone through

2874
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:49,479
all items um so I will ask and I know

2875
02:22:49,479 --> 02:22:52,520
Aaron won't like this but I will ask um

2876
02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:54,520
there is the naming of the resolution

2877
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:59,880
and um I this is absolutely the one that

2878
02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:01,600
in all of our conversations and

2879
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:02,640
particularly in our conversations with

2880
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:04,560
Aaron and I we have gone back and forth

2881
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,560
quite a bit

2882
02:23:07,560 --> 02:23:10,920
um I I will say that for the purposes of

2883
02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:13,080
bringing it to the council I felt

2884
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:15,000
comfortable leaving it a

2885
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:19,000
ceire but I

2886
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:21,600
um I do agree with some of those that

2887
02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:24,399
I've heard in the public about the title

2888
02:23:24,399 --> 02:23:27,880
being ceasefire and the use of any

2889
02:23:27,880 --> 02:23:30,920
resolution that we pass um having the

2890
02:23:30,920 --> 02:23:34,479
term ceasefire in the title at least uh

2891
02:23:34,479 --> 02:23:35,680
there

2892
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:40,880
is perhaps disagreement but there is um

2893
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:42,319
there are those who perhaps are not

2894
02:23:42,319 --> 02:23:43,680
within our community who are using

2895
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:45,319
anything that passes with a with the

2896
02:23:45,319 --> 02:23:49,560
term ceasefire simply a pointer to lay

2897
02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:51,720
blame on one part

2898
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:53,319
so I would

2899
02:23:53,319 --> 02:23:55,560
um I don't know how you all feel about

2900
02:23:55,560 --> 02:23:57,760
the title but I I would be open to the

2901
02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:00,120
title being changed to include and I'm

2902
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:02,560
going to pull this up uh both for myself

2903
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:05,080
and for the city clerk uh that it be

2904
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:06,920
changed to and I will read this but then

2905
02:24:06,920 --> 02:24:08,439
I can get tell you the exact wording

2906
02:24:08,439 --> 02:24:11,319
again a res a resolution of the Albany

2907
02:24:11,319 --> 02:24:13,160
city council sporting efforts for a path

2908
02:24:13,160 --> 02:24:19,030
to long-term peace and stability in

2909
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:21,120
Gaza uh so again we're supporting

2910
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:23,800
efforts we are you know we're not

2911
02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:25,319
creating long-term peace but we're

2912
02:24:25,319 --> 02:24:27,600
supporting efforts um and then I believe

2913
02:24:27,600 --> 02:24:30,240
that our whereas Clauses really are or

2914
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:33,800
there therefore be it resolved list the

2915
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:35,840
ceasefire list the humanitarian and so

2916
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,439
it really is our goal is really all of

2917
02:24:38,439 --> 02:24:40,760
that there were others in the community

2918
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:43,240
who had uh you know trying to make that

2919
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:45,520
that resolution be even more focused on

2920
02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:48,920
us I do think um long I do think

2921
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:51,160
something in the effect of to long-term

2922
02:24:51,160 --> 02:24:55,479
peace and stability in Gaza um uh is an

2923
02:24:55,479 --> 02:24:56,560
option but

2924
02:24:56,560 --> 02:24:59,880
I'm I'm also comfortable leaving a Cesar

2925
02:24:59,880 --> 02:25:02,120
but I think I did think it was

2926
02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:03,080
appropriate for us to have a

2927
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:05,120
conversation at least about the

2928
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:09,560
title uh you're right mayor

2929
02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:12,680
um as as we discussed I

2930
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:14,960
I feel quite strongly that I think we

2931
02:25:14,960 --> 02:25:17,200
should leave it as is uh I think that is

2932
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:22,160
the overarching point uh that is and if

2933
02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:23,600
this is going to

2934
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:26,520
be used by others I think that will

2935
02:25:26,520 --> 02:25:29,439
happen regardless of what we name it the

2936
02:25:29,439 --> 02:25:31,000
title does not define everything that's

2937
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:33,160
in the resolution it also Define doesn't

2938
02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:35,120
Define the meaning That Others May

2939
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:39,160
ascribe to it um but it is that is I

2940
02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:41,080
feel the accurate title because it is

2941
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:43,439
the Top Line it it is not everything we

2942
02:25:43,439 --> 02:25:45,760
want to say but a title by definition

2943
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:47,080
can't be everything we want to say

2944
02:25:47,080 --> 02:25:48,640
that's why the rest of the resolution is

2945
02:25:48,640 --> 02:25:50,920
there but it is the

2946
02:25:50,920 --> 02:25:55,640
topof line issue and I think gets at

2947
02:25:55,640 --> 02:25:58,120
the one of the biggest impetuses of why

2948
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:04,670
we're doing this and what we want to

2949
02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:07,920
say I I would say uh personally I would

2950
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:10,279
prefer to leave the language ceasefire

2951
02:26:10,279 --> 02:26:13,760
or leave as is um just because I think

2952
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:15,279
if we go back and forth with this we're

2953
02:26:15,279 --> 02:26:16,760
going to spend way more time than we

2954
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:19,040
want to on debating on what a title

2955
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:21,080
should look like um

2956
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:22,960
especially if this end up becoming like

2957
02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:27,800
a two verse two type of situation um I

2958
02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:31,640
think uh at the end of the day similar

2959
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:34,120
to what council member tman had alluded

2960
02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:37,120
to you know title to titles it's you

2961
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:40,479
know the content that matters but titles

2962
02:26:40,479 --> 02:26:44,040
are what uh also more or less Define the

2963
02:26:44,040 --> 02:26:48,040
whole the whole product

2964
02:26:48,040 --> 02:26:52,920
um if if it going to be changed

2965
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:56,240
um would I would have a lot of

2966
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:59,240
reluctance towards that um but certainly

2967
02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:01,800
wouldn't stop me from you know you know

2968
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:04,040
using my platform my positionality to

2969
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:07,840
still publicly call and refer to as a

2970
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,000
seire so Aon and I've had this

2971
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:13,000
conversation quite a few times so I will

2972
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:15,080
just say that I I am again I am

2973
02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:16,880
comfortable keeping Cesar in in the

2974
02:27:16,880 --> 02:27:18,200
language I just wanted to make sure that

2975
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:20,279
we had a conversation about it I will

2976
02:27:20,279 --> 02:27:22,720
offer one other alternative and then if

2977
02:27:22,720 --> 02:27:24,120
there's no support for it I'm fine with

2978
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:25,840
leaving the title as is but it would be

2979
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:28,279
changing it to a resolution of the Alban

2980
02:27:28,279 --> 02:27:29,920
city council supporting an immediate

2981
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:32,080
bilateral ceasefire in

2982
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:34,960
Gaza um sorry bilateral

2983
02:27:34,960 --> 02:27:37,720
ceasefire uh to support a path to to

2984
02:27:37,720 --> 02:27:40,279
long-term peace and stability in Gaza so

2985
02:27:40,279 --> 02:27:42,319
it would be adding in the long-term

2986
02:27:42,319 --> 02:27:45,469
peace and

2987
02:27:45,479 --> 02:27:47,880
stability so we have the word ceasefire

2988
02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:52,269
but why do we want the ceasefire

2989
02:27:52,279 --> 02:27:56,160
just throwing it out there yeah I I

2990
02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:58,000
appreciate you raising it for discussion

2991
02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:00,840
that's a lot of what I've done just to

2992
02:28:00,840 --> 02:28:02,760
fully flesh it out um in the public

2993
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,830
record

2994
02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:09,960
um I prefer the title The Way It Is

2995
02:28:09,960 --> 02:28:12,080
proposed um because to me that the

2996
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:13,960
reason I'm supporting this is because of

2997
02:28:13,960 --> 02:28:16,000
the the starvation that is occurring and

2998
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,680
the mass starvation that is that is

2999
02:28:18,680 --> 02:28:20,600
imminent which is all about immediate

3000
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:25,830
bilateral ceasefire um it

3001
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:31,190
is to me I don't have

3002
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:33,560
particular judgment on anything beyond

3003
02:28:33,560 --> 02:28:35,439
that I'll remove my okay all right

3004
02:28:35,439 --> 02:28:37,479
thanks I I don't need to look to Aaron

3005
02:28:37,479 --> 02:28:40,600
to know where landed this one um I did

3006
02:28:40,600 --> 02:28:43,000
remember something else that that was

3007
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:44,920
commented upon which was civilian

3008
02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:46,880
prisoners so I'm wondering if you could

3009
02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:49,160
talk to that yes I meant to elaborate on

3010
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:51,880
that earlier so so

3011
02:28:51,880 --> 02:28:53,520
um

3012
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:57,560
we again every word that we chose we

3013
02:28:57,560 --> 02:28:59,319
chose

3014
02:28:59,319 --> 02:29:03,120
cautiously um the term civilian prisoner

3015
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,680
to us and our understanding of what the

3016
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:10,200
Israeli government uses that to be is um

3017
02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:11,960
in this case would be any Palestinian

3018
02:29:11,960 --> 02:29:13,120
who was

3019
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:16,880
arrested but not charged with a crime

3020
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:20,880
and so those in in Palestine who were

3021
02:29:20,880 --> 02:29:23,120
arrested so the example given of I

3022
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:25,240
believe it was 23-year-old who had done

3023
02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:28,399
some killings that is not considered a

3024
02:29:28,399 --> 02:29:30,560
civilian um

3025
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:33,000
prisoner um so so that was our

3026
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:35,000
distinction so those who have committed

3027
02:29:35,000 --> 02:29:38,319
crimes are not included that

3028
02:29:38,319 --> 02:29:41,680
um I'll I'll just add to that of saying

3029
02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:43,920
that yes that that is one thing that I

3030
02:29:43,920 --> 02:29:45,560
think came out of our meetings uh you

3031
02:29:45,560 --> 02:29:48,279
know one we met with several uh

3032
02:29:48,279 --> 02:29:50,160
Palestinian Arab business owners in in

3033
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:53,439
Albany who made the point of you know

3034
02:29:53,439 --> 02:29:57,080
with with how the discourse has gone so

3035
02:29:57,080 --> 02:30:00,560
far if you just say unconditional

3036
02:30:00,560 --> 02:30:02,000
release of all hostages it doesn't

3037
02:30:02,000 --> 02:30:05,359
necessarily read as saying that you also

3038
02:30:05,359 --> 02:30:08,760
think that a great number of

3039
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:11,319
Palestinians who have committed no crime

3040
02:30:11,319 --> 02:30:14,680
should also be freed um who who are

3041
02:30:14,680 --> 02:30:17,319
currently detained um so that was an

3042
02:30:17,319 --> 02:30:19,720
attempt to explicitly recognize that um

3043
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:20,560
again

3044
02:30:20,560 --> 02:30:22,600
it's a good example of in a simpler

3045
02:30:22,600 --> 02:30:25,200
world we could make a simpler statement

3046
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:26,760
that could be read to include all

3047
02:30:26,760 --> 02:30:28,600
parties but that is not the world in

3048
02:30:28,600 --> 02:30:30,319
which we exist in

3049
02:30:30,319 --> 02:30:32,160
currently so if I'm understanding

3050
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:34,600
correctly CI civilian prisoner is the

3051
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:38,880
term that Israel uses to refer to

3052
02:30:38,880 --> 02:30:41,160
prisoners who are not indicted

3053
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:43,720
essentially but they're in

3054
02:30:43,720 --> 02:30:46,040
prison because it it doesn't because it

3055
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:48,479
doesn't it doesn't read it's like not

3056
02:30:48,479 --> 02:30:52,840
obvious at all to me being steeped in

3057
02:30:52,840 --> 02:30:57,120
this I will say also that you know

3058
02:30:57,120 --> 02:31:01,319
it's it's a it it is an attempt to to

3059
02:31:01,319 --> 02:31:03,080
acknowledge a greater variety of people

3060
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:05,120
who are prisoners and who should be

3061
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:07,520
released there's no perfect way to say

3062
02:31:07,520 --> 02:31:09,720
that because again this is one of those

3063
02:31:09,720 --> 02:31:11,399
doors that you can open that you get

3064
02:31:11,399 --> 02:31:16,399
into a discussion of what constitutes a

3065
02:31:16,399 --> 02:31:19,960
just prisoner of war uh who should be

3066
02:31:19,960 --> 02:31:23,560
considered that and how do you say that

3067
02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:25,240
in a succinct way that doesn't end up

3068
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:26,720
putting a research paper in the middle

3069
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:30,439
of our resolution right I I know it is

3070
02:31:30,439 --> 02:31:33,560
not it is a it is a term of art that I

3071
02:31:33,560 --> 02:31:39,240
am advocating for a reading of uh but I

3072
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:41,640
think it gets at the the point

3073
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:44,399
of we are saying that a large number of

3074
02:31:44,399 --> 02:31:45,880
people need to be released and those are

3075
02:31:45,880 --> 02:31:48,840
not just on one side of this conflict uh

3076
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:50,319
and that's what we were trying to get to

3077
02:31:50,319 --> 02:31:53,040
and and came directly from discussing

3078
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:55,160
this with people in the

3079
02:31:55,160 --> 02:31:58,479
community and and I would emphasize

3080
02:31:58,479 --> 02:32:01,520
that in all conversations it was truly

3081
02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:04,080
those who it was never intended to

3082
02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:06,960
equate those who were taken as hostages

3083
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:09,920
and those who Israel has detained and

3084
02:32:09,920 --> 02:32:13,800
put in prison for crimes that they will

3085
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,359
be charged with right so or have been

3086
02:32:16,359 --> 02:32:19,479
charged with um so we weren't that was

3087
02:32:19,479 --> 02:32:21,359
not what we intended when we said

3088
02:32:21,359 --> 02:32:23,640
civilian

3089
02:32:23,640 --> 02:32:25,880
prisoners actually I believe Israel

3090
02:32:25,880 --> 02:32:29,279
calls anyone who's been

3091
02:32:29,279 --> 02:32:31,560
imprisoned and is considered to be an

3092
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:33,359
Endy combatant to be different than a

3093
02:32:33,359 --> 02:32:36,760
civilian prisoner sorry like there there

3094
02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:38,600
there there is a different category wait

3095
02:32:38,600 --> 02:32:40,640
so there three three categories we are

3096
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:42,680
not talking about anyone who has been

3097
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:43,960
involved in the war we're not talking

3098
02:32:43,960 --> 02:32:45,359
about anyone who's been charged with a

3099
02:32:45,359 --> 02:32:47,319
crime that maybe wasn't necessarily

3100
02:32:47,319 --> 02:32:49,160
completely related with the war we but

3101
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:50,800
those who are being detained or

3102
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:52,920
imprisoned but not charged because it

3103
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:55,640
reads on his face in this context as all

3104
02:32:55,640 --> 02:32:57,359
prisoners who are not combatants or in

3105
02:32:57,359 --> 02:32:58,560
the

3106
02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:00,680
military so it would be the equivalent

3107
02:33:00,680 --> 02:33:02,800
of every prisoner in this country other

3108
02:33:02,800 --> 02:33:06,359
than those in Quanto I guess those are

3109
02:33:06,359 --> 02:33:07,279
all

3110
02:33:07,279 --> 02:33:11,359
civilians um so that's how it read to me

3111
02:33:11,359 --> 02:33:14,080
as a lay person if you will I mean it

3112
02:33:14,080 --> 02:33:15,800
seems like the term that would generally

3113
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:17,319
be used would be political prisoner but

3114
02:33:17,319 --> 02:33:19,200
that would introduce the doctoral thesis

3115
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:22,840
in the middle of the resolution so um I

3116
02:33:22,840 --> 02:33:24,800
appreciate the discussion I don't think

3117
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:26,560
there's a whole lot that can be done

3118
02:33:26,560 --> 02:33:28,680
around that um but I didn't want to let

3119
02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:35,190
it go by without

3120
02:33:35,200 --> 02:33:39,840
asking um since the resolves do now

3121
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:43,279
include the statement or resolves on the

3122
02:33:43,279 --> 02:33:45,359
local situation I don't know if the

3123
02:33:45,359 --> 02:33:48,720
title should include something in that

3124
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:51,830
regard

3125
02:33:51,840 --> 02:34:01,550
I don't think we need to change it

3126
02:34:01,560 --> 02:34:04,560
okay I look to the authors

3127
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:07,920
to I will move passage of the resolution

3128
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:10,240
with the changes that we have agreed

3129
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:13,279
on and that being resolution

3130
02:34:13,279 --> 02:34:16,240
20246 yes I'm just looking at you

3131
02:34:16,240 --> 02:34:17,800
because that's what you do every time I

3132
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:19,399
make a motion and I forget to include

3133
02:34:19,399 --> 02:34:22,200
the res resolution number I appreciate

3134
02:34:22,200 --> 02:34:23,479
your commitment to Roberts Rules of

3135
02:34:23,479 --> 02:34:28,710
Order uh yes I would move resolution

3136
02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:38,269
2024-the on uh in the council discussion

3137
02:34:38,279 --> 02:34:42,880
second mayor Mickey yes council member

3138
02:34:42,880 --> 02:34:46,279
Jordan yes council member tan yes vice

3139
02:34:46,279 --> 02:34:52,150
mayor Lopez yes and the motion carries

3140
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:53,240
I want to thank everyone who

3141
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,279
participated today and in all past

3142
02:34:55,279 --> 02:34:59,399
Council meetings upon this um about this

3143
02:34:59,399 --> 02:35:08,630
topic again I please ask you to

3144
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:11,840
refrain I believe as as council member

3145
02:35:11,840 --> 02:35:14,479
tman mentioned um while this has not

3146
02:35:14,479 --> 02:35:15,960
always been a comfortable conversation

3147
02:35:15,960 --> 02:35:18,000
for all in the room and

3148
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,240
online um I am very thankful to all the

3149
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:22,920
participated and all that kept this a

3150
02:35:22,920 --> 02:35:27,399
very civil and um uh uh safe environment

3151
02:35:27,399 --> 02:35:29,120
to have conversations and have a

3152
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,359
discussion um with that I will adjourn

3153
02:35:31,359 --> 02:35:32,800
this special meeting of the Alban city

3154
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:48,630
council thank you very

3155
02:35:48,640 --> 02:36:18,550
much

3156
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:21,560
e