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Call the anhym, city council meeting, order, clerk, can you please call roll?

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Thank you, Mayor. Council member Bayless.

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Here. Council member Kurtz. Here.

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Mayor, pro tem, mixt, here. Mayor Aiken.

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Here. Let the record show, we have four members present.

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Are there any additions or deletions to our closed session agenda?

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Mayor, there are none.

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Do we have any public speakers here to address our closed session agenda?

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We don't have any in person speakers, and we did not receive any electronic comments on the closed session agenda.

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Thank you. So at this time, I will close public comment on the closed session agenda, and we will recess to closed session. Thank you.

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Here today, at the Berkshire's Community Center in Anaheim, we're doing a gun buy-back program.

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The program is totally anonymous. People can turn in their weapons, and we're going to get them a gift card.

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300 dollars if there's a salt weapon. Otherwise, all the other weapons that we collect, they must be operable, or $100 each.

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Local is to take them from people that don't want them, and we safely recover them, and ultimately the weapons are destroyed.

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It's not uncommon that we see firearms stolen during residential or vehicle burglaries.

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Firearms are commonly used for violent crimes, and the goal is to reduce that.

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This is very personal to me. I lost my brother-in-law close to 30 years ago, who was in LA Deputy Sheriff, and he was shot and killed by one of these weapons.

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The great thing about today is that many, many assault weapons were voluntarily provided and given in four gift cards.

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It's the community coming together and helping each other.

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I want to come here to say personally with my presence in my words, thank you to Orange County, to these incredible supervisors, elected leaders, community activists, public safety officers, who have all come together to make Anaheim and Orange County safer.

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And so with that, we're looking again, maybe in a year from now, doing yet another buy-back, hopefully even bigger and bigger than we're doing today.

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While here today at the Berkhares 20 Center in Anaheim, we're doing a gun buy-back program.

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The program is totally anonymous, people can turn in their weapons, and we're going to get them a gift card.

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300 dollars of his assault weapon, otherwise all the other weapons that we collect, they must be operable, or $100 each.

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The goal is to take them from people that don't want them, and we safely recover them and ultimately the weapons are destroyed.

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I'd like to reconvene an a hymns city council meeting back to order. The first item on our agenda is an invocation that will be

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offered this evening by Pastor Tim Eaton, from Zion, Lutheran Church. Following that, Council Member Rybakovo will

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lead us in the flag salute. Will you all please stand and Pastor Eaton, please begin when you are

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ready. Nice to see you. Thank you for having me. Honourable Mayor, esteemed members of our city council

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in fellow residents, would you join me in spelling our heads in order prayer. Gracious God, we give you

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thanks, that through Paul, you have instructed us to lift up prayers for all people, but especially for

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those who are in authority and so tonight, loaded pray for our city council meeting. We ask that you

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would bless us in order for us to have peace within our city that you would give our council and those gathered

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both, candor and also respect. We pray that would enable us to have peace within our city. We pray

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especially during this the month of domestic violence awareness that you would give us peace

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within our homes and respect for one another, both out in our city and also with those who are close

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to us. We pray this all in the name of the Prince of Peace, Jesus. Amen. Please put your right hand over

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your heart and join me in the pledge of allegiance, ready begin. Thank you, everyone. We have

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supervisor, Doug Chafi, here with us this evening, who is going to be giving us a presentation

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on his always successful gun by back program. I would like to welcome you supervisor Chafi

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and please begin when you're ready. Thank you so much. Thank you, Mayor, and council members. We're

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allowing me to share with you our third gunbuck by back program. First one was hosted by me

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at the City of Personsia Police Department taking a lead. Second one came here at Anaheim.

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So thank you, Mayor Ashley, for helping with that and the chief of police and the great job that

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you did in laying everything out. So our third gunbuck by back will be sponsored by three supervisors.

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This time, the supervisor, Vincentie Sarmento and Janet Nguyen. This one will be hosted by the

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Garden Gove Police Department on November 8th from 10 to 3. That's a Saturday and the same

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procedures will apply where you transport your unwanted weapon in the trunk of your car. You do

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a through the drive through and then you pop your trunk. You don't get out of your car. And one of the

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offices will take the weapon and inspect it and grate it so we know how much to pay for it and we pay

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for that with gift cards, not in cash. And then we also, as part of that, offer a free gunlock

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for those of other weapons, they'd like to secure. I might add that from our pass gunby back,

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we've offered free gunlocks too. Found about one and three one and one. So we created a separate

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program to pass out gunlocks for those who need it. That's one of the flyers that you have in

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front of me. It is for the free gunlock program. You can contact our website at d4.ozeggov.com slash

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free gunlocks. Request a gunlock and we find it up to three per request. You know, when you buy them

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10,000 at a time, the price is pretty good and we're not likely to run out of any time soon. So we

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welcome anyone in Orange County that would like a free gunlock just go ahead and click on that

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website to fill out the form and we'll be delighted to send you your gunlock. If I may turn back

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to the gunby back, we do have a short video clip showing what happened in Anaheim. If we could put that on.

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In Anaheim, we're doing a gunby back program. The program is totally anonymous. People can turn in

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their weapons and we're going to get them a gift card $300 if it's a salt weapon. Otherwise all the

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other weapons that we collect may must be operable are $100 each. The goal is to take them from

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people that don't want them and we safely recover them and ultimately the weapons are destroyed. It's not

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Common that we see firearms stolen during residential or vehicle burglaries, firearms or commonly used for violent crimes, and the goal is to reduce that.

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This is very personal to me. I lost my brother-in-law, close to 30 years ago, who was in LA Deputy Sheriff, and he was shot and killed by one of these weapons. The great thing about today is that many, many assault weapons were voluntarily provided and given in four gift cards.

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We've been really coming together and helping each other. I want to come here to say personally with my presence and my words, thank you to Orange County.

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To these incredible supervisors, elected leaders, community activists, public safety officers, who have all come together to make an eye on Orange County safer.

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So with that, we're looking again, maybe in a year from now, doing yet another buyback, hopefully even bigger than we're doing today.

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I would add that result of our first two buyback, we got 757 weapons off the street, including 53 assault weapons.

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You may have noticed the person standing in the middle there that was Attorney General Bonta.

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He had been Orange County, I think he couldn't resist a photo op, so he came by and we were glad to have him out there.

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And so we hope this will be even more successful.

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And maybe we can do another one again next year seeing how things work out.

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But I want to thank, again, the mayor and the city of Anaheim for your help and the second gun buyback that we held last year and the police department at a marvelous job.

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You have a great police force here. And so if there are no questions, I will leave you to the main events coming up this evening.

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Sorry, just for clarification, I see on here it says assault weapons is classified by the state of California.

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Somebody has an illegal that is an illegal firearm that is not legal in the state of California and they turn it in as it just bring it in.

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Anyhow, there won't be question or anything like that.

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You know, it is intended to be anonymous. We don't allow any photographer names are not taken. We just want to get the weapons off the street.

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Thank you. And they will eventually be destroyed.

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Well, thank you all and have a pleasant evening.

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Thank you so much, supervisor.

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So we are going to have some presentations right now, so I'm going to come down there.

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So our first presentation tonight is recognizing the 25th anniversary of country family cafe.

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So since opening its doors 25 years ago, the country family cafe has been a beloved part of West Anaheim known for its warm hospitality and delicious home style cooking.

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It is intended by Javier Todas and Blanca Camacho de Todas and later joined by Ricardo Camacho Núñez, the case cafe has remained true to its roots as a proud family run business.

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The cafe continues to honor the legacy of Javier Todas serving up comfort food and kindness in every meal.

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Country family cafe is more than just a place to eat. It's a true cornerstone of the community.

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From supporting local schools to lending a hand to families and time of need, giving back has always been at the heart of what they do.

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So congratulations to 25 years in Anaheim and here's to many, many more. Could you please come up and join us.

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Would you like to say a few words?

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Hi, good evening and everyone. My name is Jimena. My dad was Javier Todas and my mom is Blanca Todas right here.

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On behalf of my family, I just want to say how much this recognition really means to us.

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After 25 years of seeing our family restaurant, country family cafe being honored by the community feels incredibly special.

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When my dad passed away, we thought that a lot of things would go downhill, but by the grace of God and things of our amazing customers and this community that we will continue to grow.

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We've done our best to keep this legacy alive and tonight really feels like this is like proof of his hard work and all of my family's dedication as well and it hasn't been forgotten.

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I'm so proud to have gone up in that little restaurant as a kid. I never realized how much effort and sacrifice and love that my family poured into it into what it is today.

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And now I see it and I couldn't be proud to sit here speaking for them even working there as well.

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And I just want to say thank you so much to the City of Anaheim and to the whole community for supporting us for as long as I've been alive and 25 years.

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I want to say thank you.

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Our second presentation, we get to celebrate an incredible milestone, which is 40 years of Girl Scout

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Group of Orange County Buddhist Church. As a fellow Girl Scout, it is an honor to congratulate you on this special celebration.

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We are celebrating four decades of leadership, creativity, empowerment, volunteerism and confidence values that continue to shape strong young women year after year.

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Of course, none of this would be possible without the support of the Girl Scout of Orange County themselves, the Girl Scouts, their families dedicated leaders who guide them every step of the way.

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Here with us tonight, we have the founding leader of the true Judy Koyama to accept this recognition if you could please join us up here.

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On behalf of the OCBC Girl Scouts, we'd like to thank all of you what makes this successful is our community.

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And I'm Anaheim, it's got to be the best and our leader in Orange County.

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Our parents and our Girl Scouts, without your support, we wouldn't have reached the success that we have.

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I have the pleasure of being the proud CEO of Girl Scouts of Orange County and it is such an honor. I got to celebrate at the church site the other day and to see the legacy and the leadership as Mayor Ashley said,

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this troop has a high number of Girl Scouts, they truly are leaders and they are making the world a better place. Thank you so much for this honor.

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Okay everyone, look right here, thank you all.

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I want to give an award to Vicki for those Girl Scouts shoes.

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They're on point. Vicki your shoes are amazing.

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It's amazing. So I always joke as a Girl Scouts, this is my first year not being a Girl Scout leader and I used to measure my life in birthdays and now I measure my life in cookie seasons.

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So I know it's coming up in January. So get your $6 girls.

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$6 get your $6 ready, start saving up dollar bills, cookies, seasons are right around the corner. It helps you use lose that holiday weight if you just eat cookies.

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All right, we're good on my belts. Thank you.

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What would I do without my readers? I was going to wing it.

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Our next recommendation is recognizing October 2025 as National Community Planning Month.

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So we obviously love Anaheim up here from our neighborhoods to our beautiful parks and our growing communities.

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But none of it would be possible without the incredible work of our planning and building department.

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October is National Community Planning Month, a time to recognize and celebrate the vital role our planning professionals play in shaping the future of our city.

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Their work goes far beyond permits and plans. They help create spaces that improve the quality of life for all of us in Anaheim.

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From facilitating growth and expanding businesses, this team is truly always helping us build a better Anaheim.

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So on behalf of the city council, we thank our building and planning folks for your dedication and service.

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This award winning team was recently recognized by national planning associations for what they do.

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We'd like to invite members of our planning services and building licensing divisions to join us and accept this well-deserved recognition.

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So come on up, planning and building.

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Thank you, Mayor. I'm Heather Allen. I'm the director of the planning and building departments.

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My pleasure to recognize the team of talented and dedicated professionals for planning services and business license.

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And I would like to introduce Joanne Wang who is coming back to the city of Anaheim as a deputy director of planning services. So she'll be leading and the planning division going forward.

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We're going to have the description.

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Certainly not least. Tonight we're recognizing the Anaheim Housing Authority's 50th anniversary.

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The 50th anniversary of Anaheim's housing authority has for the last five decades stood at the heart of Anaheim's commitment to helping our neighbors find safe, stable and affordable housing.

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This work has never been just about housing units.

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It's about families finding stability, seniors aging with dignity and individuals finding the security they need to move forward.

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The Anaheim Housing Authority has helped thousands of Anaheim residents find homes.

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And we know that the housing challenges facing our city are complex.

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But thanks to the dedication of the housing authorities team along with community partners, landlords and developers.

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Anaheim is making true progress.

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Whether it's moving individuals out of homelessness or helping a working family stay in the city they love this work changes lives.

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Thank you to the staff both past and present who serve this mission with kindness and compassion.

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Thank you to the partners that've worked with us.

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To make this possible, and here's to 50 years of impact. And to the next 50 years of building a stronger, more inclusive, affordable, and a home for all.

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I'd like to invite Grace Ruiz Stefter, our director of housing and community development to join us in accepting this recognition as well as her team.

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Grace is welcoming you all up here. Don't try to hide from her. She sees you.

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Right? Girlfriend me too, I'm not sure. 50 in fabulous.

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I was going to say, introduce everyone.

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Yeah, right. While our crew makes it up here, there's a lot of us.

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I wanted to take the time to thank the council, the mayor, all our past and previous board chairs for supporting the work of the housing authority.

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Thank you for your current words, but the story of the housing authority is really the story of our people.

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Our staff have shown that what it means to serve with compassion, passion and resilience.

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Housing work is not simple involves listening, problem solving, advocating, and sometimes simply being a steady presence for families who are having a difficult moment.

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Our employees understand that they show up every day with commitment and put the indetermination.

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Our team passed in present. Thank you. Your dedication has shaped the thousands of lives that have benefited from our programs and strengthen the fabric of Anaheim.

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To our council and those who have served on our, I don't know, I'm housing authority board in the past and in the present.

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Thank you for your support, this work this week and really for always and for the innovative ways that you continue to look for funding for the work that we do.

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As we look to the next 50 years, we carry forward our share belief that everyone deserves a safe and stable place to call home. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So next on our agenda is a presentation by the Orange County Family Justice Center. Please come forward.

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Good evening. Thank you for this opportunity to provide an update on the Orange County Family Justice Center and foundation.

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I am Tracy Fiatore. I'm the executive director of the foundation that supports the work of the Family Justice Center.

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As you may know, the Family Justice Center is located here in Anaheim. We provide resources for survivors of family violence for us that includes child abuse, domestic violence, sexual assault, elder and dependent adult abuse.

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October is also domestic violence awareness months, so try to provide updates on these months that are significant for the work that we do.

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Some of the, we have about 15 agencies at the center, as you probably know, the Anaheim Police Department was and is the lead agency and we're so grateful for that.

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The further leadership and the continued support of the police department as well as the city council and providing these really important resources for folks that are really experiencing the worst days and traumas of their life really.

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And so having the Family Justice Center here in Anaheim is really very important. We have about 15 agencies on site that provide various resources from.

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And we are very encouraging to financial support to emergency housing assistance, etc. And so the collaboration really makes the work.

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Possible and really provides a more cohesive place and support for our survivors.

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I'm pleased to introduce a new lieutenant at the Family Justice Center Lieutenant Daniel Gonzalez will be leading our efforts.

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Starting as of Monday, so we're super pleased to have him.

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Also wanted to thank you. Many of you attended our resource fair earlier this month. We have resource fairs at the center twice a year to encourage the community to come in and learn about the resources so that.

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Family violence should touch them or anyone they know in the community they can send them our way to get resources and so that was earlier this month.

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We will have another one in April for child abuse awareness month as well as sexual assault awareness month.

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And we are hoping to partner with council in providing these resource events moving forward.

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So keep an eye on your inbox is because there will be an email following looking for some partnership there.

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And then finally the holidays are upon us and I can't believe I'm already talking about it, but December 18th is our annual adoptive family.

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And so at the moment we have about 120 families that will be adopting it's over 550 individuals that will come through four gifts in a day of celebration.

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It's from 2 to 7 on December 18th and I invite you all to come it's really the highlight for the folks that work in this space.

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It's a difficult space. Obviously we're getting to spread a little cheer around the holidays always helps us in the year on a positive note.

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So I thank you for your support. I look forward to seeing you at the Family Justice Center for a tour or otherwise and then not too distant future.

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No. Thank you so much for that update. Thank you very much and only flyers.

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Thank you.

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And when you're ready if you have a flyer for the adoptive family, please share with us so we can share on our social media.

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I know there's a lot of families that would love to adopt a family and help you out.

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Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Next on our agenda, our recognitions to be presented at a later date.

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Clerk, could you please announce them?

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Thank you Mayor. We have to this evening recognizing October 19th to the 25th as County of Orange,

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Childhood Lead Poisoning Prevention Week and also recognizing the same week October 19th to the 25th as National Friends of the Library Week.

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Thank you. Are there any additions or deletions to tonight's agenda?

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Mayor, noting on tonight's agenda item 28 is a public hearing on a proposed vacation.

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Staff has requested to continue this public hearing to the Council meeting of December 9th, 2025.

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Thank you. That would be item number 28. Thank you.

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Can you please outline the public comment procedures and call forward our first.

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Several public speakers to address our agenda.

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Thank you, Mayor. Speakers having one have speakers have one opportunity to address the City Council.

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The public comment period is limited to 90 minutes or until all agenda item speakers have been heard.

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which is regarding the proposed modification to the Anaheim Tourism Improvement District.

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Any time remaining of the 90 minutes will be provided to speakers who wish to speak on any non-agenda related items,

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but within the Council's jurisdiction.

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A second public comment period will be opened by the mayor only if any non-agenda items speakers were not heard during this first public comment.

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And it will be open at the end of council business.

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The time limit for public comment is three minutes per speaker.

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Those wishing to address the City Council must complete a speaker card which are available at the back of the council chambers.

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The name and contact information requested on the speaker card is optional.

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Any unidentified speakers will be called by the speaker card number.

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At this time, I'd also like to announce that Spanish interpreting services are provided at every City Council meeting.

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Simultaneous Spanish interpretation is provided through the use of headsets.

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And consecutive interpretation is available to anyone who would like to address the City Council.

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For translation services and other languages, please contact the City Clerk's Office at least 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting.

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At this time, I'd like to introduce our interpreter who make the same announcement and Spanish.

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She provides services to the interpreter to the Spanish, in all the reunions of the municipal council.

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She provides the interpreter to the Spanish, through the use of headphones and the executive interpretation.

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She is available to anyone who would like to address the municipal council.

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For services and other languages, as well as the office of the municipal secretary, at least 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting.

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At this time, on behalf of the City Council, we will like to remind the public that Anaheim remains committed to freedom of speech.

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And we ask that speaker's address the City Council with civility and refrain from making personal, threatening, abusive, slanderous or profane remarks towards any member of the council, staff or general public.

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We appreciate you reflecting the spirit when you speak.

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The time now is 535 with the 90 minute public comment period set to conclude at 705, or until all agenda items speakers have been heard.

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We do ask that speakers line up at the podium once they see their name appear on the projection screen behind me.

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And a Mayor and City Council noting for agenda items speakers, we have 25 speakers.

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And if the first speaker can please step forward, Mr. Dwayne J. Roberts.

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Thank you, and can you just announce some folks that maybe you can't see this screen from the side, just who the next three speakers are.

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Yes, so we have undoing Roberts, our Joshua Collins and Sabrina Lockhart.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Dwayne Roberts, editor and publisher.

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I'm at best skater.com.

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In July 2015, a reporter from the OC weekly asked me, what I felt about a gate text on Disney theme park admissions.

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In response, I said, the following quote,

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I've had my reservations about it as a revenue source.

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There is absolutely no guarantee any revenues collected from such a text would go to pay for things like new soccer fields, low income housing,

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or child care for working mothers.

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I told him that the Anaheim Police Department, which consumes about 40% of the city's general fund,

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would be well positioned to gobble up at admissions levy just as they were just as was

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specifically as they do current hotel bed tax revenues.

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10 years later, what I have said has finally become true.

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Despite all the hoop law we've heard about a gate tax,

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most of the funds collected won't be spent on parks, housing and vital social services.

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Much of it is going to be used to pay for a massive decade-long expansion of the Anaheim Police Department,

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the biggest in this city's history.

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city's planners are already proposing the money be allocated to build a new $350 million police headquarters.

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Although I am not for or against such a tax, this item gets a big thumbs down for me,

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especially knowing the Anaheim Police Association is backing it.

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Rather than waste our time with political theater, why doesn't this council do something that benefits the working people of this town?

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Such as raised minimum wage, better yet a rent control ordinance.

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Those two things combined would do more to improve the lives of residents than a gate tax ever will.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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Our next speaker, our Joshua Collins,

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we'll call it by Sabrina Lockhart and then Justin Hart.

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Good afternoon, my name is Joshua Collins.

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I'm a homeless advocate for Christ on Facebook.

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First of all, I'd like to encourage everyone to give life to Jesus Christ,

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who done the cross for us to save us from hell to give us everlasting life.

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We all need to save and only the shed blood of Christ can save us,

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who it is to our Muslim or whatever your religion, Jesus can save you.

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You must be born again, tender God's kingdom.

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And Jesus, of course, was very concerned about those in need and it breaks my heart to hear so many things

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happening in the Anaheim that don't help those in need.

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It's a shame for the city like Anaheim to still have so many homeless and 3000 households on the weight list for sectioning vouchers.

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Over 4,000 wings specifically for affordable housing options.

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It's also a great shame that very recently on Saudi October 11,

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that was told no beds were available for the homeless by sitting at.

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And sitting at also said they are finding many more seniors on the street.

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Now we just heard about the need to have seniors aging with dignity.

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I think that this definitely is to be on the agenda that we make sure that we...

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Find a way to get these people off the street. I work with the homeless quite a bit on Saturdays, and other times when I can. But as as ridiculous, we have no other option when we try to get these people off the street that there's no option for them. Now, Jesus says in Matthew 25 or 31, when the son of man comes in as glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, you know, separate people, one from another as a shepherd, separate, that sheep from the good

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goats, you will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left, then he will say to those on the right, you know, come into the kingdom, but on the left he says, then he will say to those on the left, depart from me, you curse, then the eternal fire, prepare for the devil and the angels, angels, prize hungry, you gave me no food, I was thirsty, you gave me no drink, I was a stranger, and you didn't welcome me in, naked, you did not clothe me sick and in prison, you did not visit me.

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Then also the old answer saying, Lord, when do we see you hungry or thirstier or stranger or naked or sick or in prison? And did not minister to you, then he will answer them saying, truly say to you as you did not do it to the one of the least of these, you did not do it to me, and these will go away into the eternal punishment, but the righteous and to eternal life.

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So Jesus, very much wants us to help those of you, especially when you think about seniors, what if that was you out there, what if that was your mother-off there, your grandfather or someone like that, something has to be done, basic needs need to be met, materialism should not be our focus, but helping those around us, and you're putting a position to whom much is given, much is required, you're in a position where much is required, and I encourage you to really search your heart and see if you're lined up with God.

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And if you do line up with Him, you won't go wrong, but right now I'm not seeing some of that, and that's very sad.

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Hey, let me share.

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Following Sabrina Lawcart is just in heart and Vern Nelson.

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Good evening, honorable mayor and council members. Thank you for this opportunity. My name is Sabrina Lawcart. I am the executive director of the California Attractions and Parks Association.

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We represent California theme parks, water parks, family entertainment centers, as well as the businesses that provide services and supplies for our industry, and many of our members live and work right here in Orange County.

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While we certainly understand the cities need to address its fiscal challenges, we urge you to reject a proposal for a new Disney targeted tax on Anna Himes vital entertainment and tourism sector.

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So as a measure is short-sighted and risk crippling decades of future economic growth for the entire city.

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The Disney Land Resort is a long-standing partner that already acts as an economic engine, helping to generate $279 million in annual tax revenue and sustaining over 36,000 jobs across Anna Himes.

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In fact, the entire resort area supports more than 102,000 direct and indirect jobs throughout southern California.

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California's tourism economy is closely tied to market forces.

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Visit California recently predicted its first decline in a forecasted visitation since the pandemic.

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This is tied to a stronger US dollar and weakening global consumer sentiment.

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Raising the cost of visiting Anna Himes makes other destinations like Arizona and Florida and Nevada financially attractive.

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While their seats actively incentivized tourism and see brand new park expansions, a targeted entertainment tax here puts California at a competitive disadvantage.

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Recently a major theme park operator bought a portfolio of 24 parks across the country, and within months offloaded just their California assets.

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Long-term fiscal stability demands policies that encourage investment not penalize it.

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When the cost of visitation increases the impacts immediate, that's fewer guests lower spending and job losses that squid that spread quickly throughout the community beyond the park to local hotels and nearby small businesses.

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And the notion that this is a Disney targeted tax only on outsiders is dangerously oversimplified.

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More than one third of Anna Hime residents enjoy the park making their own community more expensive to enjoy.

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Anna Himes passed strategic investments in the Resort area have had delivered impressive results skyrocketing hotel tax revenue from $57.9 million just over 20 years ago to $247 million today.

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We ask you to continue this visionary leadership prior to his policies that drive economic growth and strengthen tourism.

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Rather than on relying on the Disney targeted tax that will undermine our shared future success.

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For lasting fiscal stability, Anna Himes must meet remain competitive and appeal as a premier destination from around the world.

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Thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration.

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Our next speaker to step forward, Justin Hart.

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Good evening, Mary Ekin and the scene city council members.

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My name is Justin Hart and the general manager of the Sharon Park Hotel at the Anna Hime Resort.

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Thank you so much for your leadership in advancing the ATID Employee Affordable Housing Initiative.

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I'm proud to support this program of first of its kind in our country designed to help ATID employees who live and work in Anna Hime to have access to affordable housing while also serving as a powerful attraction.

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This is a great opportunity for Anna Hime Resort hotels.

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Today I ask for your consideration regarding the funding formula.

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Instead of the proposed 75-25 percent split, I respectfully encourage you to support a 50-50 distribution between the marketing fund and the transportation fund.

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The marketing fund is critical as it helps generate both TOT and TID along with an ROI of 41.

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By protecting the marketing fund, we're also ensuring the continued success of the transportation fund.

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Thank you for your attention for your leadership.

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Our next speaker, we're Nelson.

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Followed by Gabby Sutter.

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What's up, council?

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I'm here to speak in favor of the gate tax proposal.

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Now, call the tourism tax.

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It is a better name, tourism tax.

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People in Anna Hime have been trying to get a tourism tax since 1960.

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What I was born, and Disney always shot it down.

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We're the only city dependent on a tourist attraction that doesn't have a tourism tax.

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And I saw Mayor Ashley's piece in the registry yesterday, against it.

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Of course, I disagree with Mayor Ashley, and I'll be writing a rebuttal in the register.

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But she did make a couple of good points.

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A couple of criticisms that could make this proposal better.

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First, it's a tourism tax.

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Anna Hime residents should be exempt from it.

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There are various ways to work that.

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The last time we looked at a gate tax a few years ago, Mr. Fablella suggested residents who pay the tax could get a rebate on their utility bills.

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Maybe it could be a lot simpler folks who can show that they live here could just not be charged at 3%.

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But obviously, Anna Hime voters would be much more likely to support this if they knew they were exempt.

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And it's only fair that local citizens have to pay the tourism tax.

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We are the ones who put up with all of Disneyland's negative externalities day after night, year after decade.

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The noise, the traffic, the nightly fireworks polluting our water and air and terrorizing our dogs.

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The crowds of outsiders, some of them, sketchy.

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The insufficient housing for Disney's employees, especially after Disneyland Forward kicks in,

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We, Anna Hime taxpayers have subsidized Disney over the decades and are still paying off the bond to build the Mickey and Friends garage in the 90s.

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And when we voted seven years ago with Measure L to make Disney pay a living wage, they fought us in court for five years.

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And we're finally just, they're just finally now starting to pay what's owed.

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The underpaid folks in our town, some of whom still work there and some don't.

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So it's fair for us not to have to pay that tourism tax.

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We are not tourists.

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Another thing actually points out that I thought was good for her to point out at the threshold of 20,000 attendees.

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This tax only applies to the Disney parks and possibly the angels, which doesn't seem fair.

396
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20,000 seems arbitrary. Why don't we make a 10,000 so it can include the hottest center?

397
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I'm sure that anti-union venue wants to do their part to help Anna Hime.

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Here's something I just remembered on my way to this meeting.

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The reason you all need five votes to put this on the ballot is because of Chris Murray, Lucille Cring and other discredited cabal members.

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A reform the past in 2018 to make Disney happy and to make it very hard to pass the gate tax.

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02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:01,000
Let's not continue their shameful clip to critical legacy.

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Let the people vote. Don't you trust our judgment? Let the people vote.

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Please. Thank you.

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Good afternoon, Mayor and council members. My name is Gappy Sutter and I am the executive director of the Anna Hime Police Association.

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I want to take a moment to talk about how we got here.

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By the mid 1990s, the resort had grown largely unchecked for 40 years and was no longer just a de-trip destination while Disney had imagined for alley visitors.

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But a major tourist destination.

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That's when city leaders in Disney made a deal and with that, a promise to Anne Hime residents.

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The idea was simple. If the city cleaned up the area, supported the resort expansion and gave Disney the room to grow.

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The resulting hotel tax revenue would fund a strong public safety, clean parks, and provide a high quality of life for Anne Hime residents.

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The residents in the city lived up to their side of the bargain.

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Taxpayers financed a massive parking structure turned it over to Disney to operate and collect revenue.

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And in return, Disney built a second theme park downtown Disney and new hotels.

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And while the hotel tax revenue did increase, the resort math simply doesn't work.

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The city's general fund, which provides public safety to residents, gets 12% of a hotel stay.

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02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:42,000
And while Anne Hime's major venues draw more than 30 million visitors a year, more than 40% of visitors don't stay in Anne Hime.

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Many come for day trips in the or the senior by cities like Garden Grove, where hotel taxes don't benefit the city of Anne Hime.

418
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Anne Hime put all its eggs in the hotel tax basket, and that's not enough for public safety, and for other needs of the city has.

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02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:09,000
When it comes to the sales tax, the city's general fund gets 1% of sales tax generated on Disney properties, including downtown Disney and inside the theme parks.

420
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However, these funds get diverted from the general fund and goes back to pain for the 1990s resort expansion deal.

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Same goes with stays at the Disney hotels. And of course, there's no tax on theme park admissions.

422
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So despite record-breaking attendance at the parks, Anne Hime faces a $60 million structural deficit.

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Our police department is under staff by 70 officers.

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And the residents are not receiving the level of service or the quality of life that they were promised.

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02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:47,000
That's why the Anne Hime Police Association supports Council Member Rubikovis proposal to let Anne Hime voters decide.

426
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Do Anne Hime residents want a modest direct tax on tourism activity?

427
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Or are they willing to accept slower 911 response times?

428
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:59,000
Neighborhoods that look nothing like the resort area, or pay higher in other taxes.

429
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:07,000
We believe the voters deserve a voice. Please place this measure on the ballot and let Anne Hime residents decide the city's future.

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Thank you.

431
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Our next speaker, Brianna Castro, followed by Tony Lee.

432
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Good evening. Mayor and city council members. My name is Brianna Castro and I'm a proud Anne Hime police officer of six years.

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I'm currently assigned to patrol team five and have worked primarily in West Anne Hime.

434
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I'm also a member of our pack board. I do want to thank city council member Natalie Rubikovis for placing this item on the agenda and to all of you for considering this item tonight.

435
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This item is about keeping the promise that was made to the residents of Anne Hime when we allowed the resort to expand three decades ago.

436
02:27:53,000 --> 02:28:07,000
This promise was very clear. Disneyland and the resort would be allowed to expand and the residents would have world-class city services paid for by taxes from tourism rather than those paid by residents.

437
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:19,000
The resort and Disney got there part of the bargain. The resort is beautiful, the theme parks are full. Tourism is booming and Walt Disney Company has made record profits.

438
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:25,000
Again, it's a great thing but I work in these neighborhoods and I can tell you it's not equal.

439
02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:34,000
We are not anti Disney. We are not anti visitor. Nor anti tourism. We appreciate the jobs and the tax revenue that they bring to the city.

440
02:28:34,000 --> 02:28:40,000
But no one can objectively look at this and our neighborhoods and say this has been an equal bargain.

441
02:28:40,000 --> 02:28:43,000
An equal partnership. It has not.

442
02:28:43,000 --> 02:28:50,000
So I can tell you with confidence that you are not hurting tourism by considering this proposal. The residents, they do appreciate the resort.

443
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:53,000
Many work there or have families who do.

444
02:28:53,000 --> 02:29:00,000
But when they look out of their windows and they look at the neighborhoods around them, it is a stark reminder of the comparison.

445
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:08,000
There is a growing sentiment of resentment. It is an unequal partnership and unequal relationship.

446
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:16,000
We as an anti police department and the association, we do everything that we can to respond to pretty 911 calls.

447
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:24,000
However, we are severely understaffed. I feel this. We feel this and the patrol division patrols what the residents see.

448
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:30,000
We respond to 911 calls. We are the front lines. So how can you show residents their improved life.

449
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:34,000
Faster now. One response times continue efforts that can be full of hard.

450
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:40,000
However, police protection is not the only public service. We look to help maintain the parts like toilet read.

451
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:44,000
Help seniors with their services. More housing programs and assistance.

452
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:49,000
All these programs cost money. The city of Anaheim under its current model cannot sustain it.

453
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:55,000
So you have three choices. One, tell the residents they don't get the programs and services they are promised.

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02:29:55,000 --> 02:30:00,000
Two, taxes will have to go up so they can pay for them or three.

455
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:16,000
Make a decision tonight. Allow the residents to vote to see if they can have what should be a modest tax admission on the gate. We all know what the residents would pick, but how about you let them make the decision. Thank you.

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02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:29,000
Our next speaker, Tony Lee, followed by Cesar Aguilar.

457
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:37,000
Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is Tony Lee and I currently serve as the vice president of the Anaheim Police Association.

458
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:44,000
I'm also the sergeant supervising the Anaheim Police Resort Police and Detail assigned full time at the Disneyland Resort.

459
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:54,000
Because of that role, I have firsthand knowledge of how significantly our police, fire, paramedics and other city services are impacted by supporting the Resort District.

460
02:30:54,000 --> 02:31:01,000
Anaheim's tours in court is something we are proud of. It is known nationally and brings millions of visitors into this city.

461
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:07,000
But supporting it requires a level of public safety service that is like any other area in Anaheim.

462
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:12,000
And that often means pulling resources away from our neighborhoods and residents.

463
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:19,000
You may hear that Disney pays for police staffing at the Resort and that is true, but here is what is not being said.

464
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:25,000
The Resort District and major venues require massive staffing from the Anaheim Police Department.

465
02:31:25,000 --> 02:31:32,000
In 2024, Anaheim police officers work more than 90,000 hours at the Disneyland Resort property alone.

466
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:44,000
That 90,000 hours does not include the hours our officers worked at Angel Stadium, the Honda Center, the Anaheim Convention Center or other venues and events throughout the Resort District.

467
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:53,000
When you factor in policing for every major event and tourism venue, we are dedicating a staggering portion of our staffing to the Resort area.

468
02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:58,000
Anaheim police officers willingly make sacrifices to keep this city safe.

469
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:05,000
But when an understaff department must continuously cover resort demands through mandatory overtime, those sacrifices multiply.

470
02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:13,000
Officers become overworked, weary, and experienced fatigue and stress that negatively impact their well-being and the quality of their personal lives.

471
02:32:13,000 --> 02:32:21,000
And when our neighborhoods need help in areas such as West Anaheim, Anaheim Hills and the Platinum Triangle or other residential areas,

472
02:32:21,000 --> 02:32:28,000
the officers responding are already physically and mentally exhausted impacting performance, morale and wellness.

473
02:32:28,000 --> 02:32:36,000
When a major incident occurs at the Resort, resources are pulled from across the city, leaving other areas of the city and neighborhoods vulnerable.

474
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:49,000
Public safety is challenging even under normal conditions, but when mandatory overtime diverts focus from our neighborhoods to tourism venues, the burden becomes unsustainable for our officers and residents.

475
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:53,000
Let me emphasize, we love serving the city of Anaheim.

476
02:32:53,000 --> 02:33:00,000
We are committed to protecting the residents, neighborhoods, businesses big and small, and the millions who visit.

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02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:09,000
But when a city responsible for more than 30 million visitors every year does not have the right revenue structure or the staffing to support that responsibility,

478
02:33:09,000 --> 02:33:13,000
the burden lands directly on the backs of the people who live here.

479
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:22,000
hotel taxes alone are not keeping up with what it takes to keep our city safe, and it is not fair to ask the residents to bear this burden alone.

480
02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:29,000
That is why the men and women of the Anaheim Police Association strongly support placing the Anaheim tourism tax on the ballot.

481
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:34,000
We are asking you, let the voters decide.

482
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:37,000
Give Anaheim residents the voices of the time is up.

483
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:39,000
In fixing a system that no longer works.

484
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:42,000
Thank you.

485
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:47,000
Speaker, Caesar Aguilar.

486
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:49,000
Good evening Mayor and council members.

487
02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:55,000
My name is Caesar Aguilar, a proud Anaheim police officer in the family crimes, detail and a resident living near downtown.

488
02:33:55,000 --> 02:34:04,000
Every day I investigate domestic violence, child abuse and elder abuse, often working directly with victims at the Orange County Family Justice Center here in Anaheim.

489
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:07,000
I'm also a member of the Anaheim Police Association, Packboard.

490
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:13,000
You've heard from my colleagues about the toll under staffing takes on our officers and residents.

491
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:14,000
I see it firsthand.

492
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:19,000
Our family crimes case loads overwhelmed our limited resources with adequate staffing.

493
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:22,000
Good do so much more to protect and support victims.

494
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:27,000
That's why the Anaheim Police Association supports putting the admissions tax before the voters.

495
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:31,000
Let the people decide if Anaheim deserves top tier public services.

496
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:38,000
Not just for public safety, but across our city with whether tourists, not residents should fund them.

497
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:41,000
Let me address these claims from the resort lobby.

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02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:43,000
First, they say the current model works.

499
02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:44,000
It doesn't.

500
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:51,000
Of the 30 million annual visitors to Anaheim, many don't stay in our hotels, so they pay no hotel tax to support our city.

501
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:56,000
They use our police, streets and parks but contribute nothing to our general fund.

502
02:34:56,000 --> 02:35:01,000
Estimates suggest 10 million visitors to generate zero dollars for Anaheim.

503
02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:04,000
Second, they claim an admissions tax will drive away tourism.

504
02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:09,000
Let's be honest, Disneyland tickets cost a hundred to two hundred dollars, eight three percent tax.

505
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:11,000
Just three to six dollars.

506
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:16,000
Disney has raised prices repeatedly since 1995, yet the parks remain packed.

507
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,000
They just hike prices again.

508
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:19,000
Will that drive tourist away?

509
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:23,000
Or is it only a problem when the city benefits instead of Disney's profits?

510
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:28,000
Third, they argue this isn't a tourism tax because some locals visit Disneyland.

511
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:33,000
The reality, most Anaheim families kind of forward five hundred to a thousand dollars for a day at the park.

512
02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:40,000
In article yesterday, noted 75,000 Anaheim residents visit annually out of thirty million total visitors.

513
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:43,000
This is overwhelmingly a tax on out of towners.

514
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To our friends in the hotel community, thank you for paying hundreds of millions of taxes to support our city.

515
02:35:48,000 --> 02:35:52,000
We know it's hard to challenge Disney, but consider our options.

516
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:57,000
First, continue under funding public services and facilities.

517
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,000
Raise taxes on residents, sales tax utility taxes, is that fair?

518
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:04,000
Increased hotel taxes are ready to highest in the state.

519
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:07,000
Should hotels bear the burden alone?

520
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:14,000
Or ask the venues driving millions of visitors, yet paying virtually no taxes to finally contribute their fair share.

521
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:20,000
Anaheim faces tens of millions and deficits, public safety is understaffed and neighborhoods see little benefit from tourism.

522
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:26,000
Even when resort bonds are paid off in a few years will just break even not thrive.

523
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If Disney truly valued its partnership with Anaheim, it should support a measure that strengthens the city that fuels its success.

524
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:35,000
I urge you give Anaheim voters the chance to decide.

525
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:37,000
Let's build a stronger, safer city.

526
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:39,000
Thank you.

527
02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:44,000
Our next speaker, Mike Robinson, followed by Janine Robinson.

528
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Certainly, we've been addressing this problem for the last several years regarding the gate tax and a lack of service employees.

529
02:36:54,000 --> 02:37:05,000
For 400 and two sworn police officers in 2008, there's so 410 now after you take away 20 retirees because the police use it for 130.

530
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:08,000
Take away 20 is for 110.

531
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:14,000
The emergency services have been here before you guys were even up there complaining that they were understaffed and overworked.

532
02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:17,000
They didn't know what to do.

533
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:18,000
Look, there's headlines.

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02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:23,000
Forced to borrow, forced to borrow to meet budget deficit city of Anaheim malls, Disney land ticket tax.

535
02:37:23,000 --> 02:37:30,000
Headlines avenue, Anaheim faces 74 million dollar budget deficit as we've mentioned many times.

536
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:35,000
Headlines, Anaheim taps one time funds, bonds to close budget gap.

537
02:37:35,000 --> 02:37:40,000
State auditor, Anaheim was identified as a high risk city for financial distress.

538
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:50,000
In a state auditor report due to lack of general fund resources, a downward trend in tax revenue and substantial unfunded pension and retiree health care obligations.

539
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:58,000
We paid $1.6 billion to expand the Disneyland Resort, pay $250 million to subsidize hotels.

540
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:04,000
And now we'd like to see some results for us, for the police, for the emergency services.

541
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:07,000
I want the police to show up if there's an emergency.

542
02:38:07,000 --> 02:38:12,000
I want the emergency services to be there at my house if somebody's sick.

543
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:20,000
And they have 3% of the Disneyland ticket prices and parking give the city money it needs to move into the future.

544
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:26,000
With balanced budgets and increased infrastructure facility dollars, enormous amount of money.

545
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:34,000
And I'm, and I'm, and I'm as 11 fire stations, Long Beach has 23, as is probably the 20th time.

546
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:36,000
Maybe I've mentioned that.

547
02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:41,000
And I'm emergency response time is six minutes, Bray has three minutes.

548
02:38:41,000 --> 02:38:46,000
That's that's like a 30% difference in your survival rate, 10% a minute.

549
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:49,000
And the housing fires double in size every 30 seconds.

550
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:54,000
And the highest park score is 81 out of 100 large cities.

551
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:58,000
A 3% Disneyland parking, okay, the 3% tax.

552
02:38:58,000 --> 02:39:00,000
It's going to balance the budget.

553
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,000
It's going to do everything.

554
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:02,000
It's going to give us lots of money.

555
02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:03,000
It's going to fully staff everything.

556
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:04,000
It's going to pay everything off.

557
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:08,000
It's also going to pay for the benefits and the, the retirement packages.

558
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:17,000
And if you think any of you think that a $150 ticket going up to $155 is somehow going to destroy

559
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:24,000
the entire resort industry, make everybody decide not to come to Anaheim, then don't vote for this.

560
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:25,000
Don't vote for this.

561
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:30,000
If you think a hundred and fifty five dollars instead of a hundred and fifty dollars is going to change the world.

562
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:32,000
But it will change the world for Anaheim.

563
02:39:32,000 --> 02:39:34,000
It'll fully staff everything.

564
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:36,000
It'll give us plenty of money for the budget.

565
02:39:36,000 --> 02:39:38,000
It'll solve all of our problems.

566
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:39,000
And you'll be heroes.

567
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:44,000
You'll be heroes with beautiful parks and the emergency person on the police all come.

568
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:46,000
And they'll all go how great everybody is.

569
02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:49,000
And we'll all be great and live happily ever after.

570
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:50,000
Thank you very much.

571
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:16,000
The city of Anaheim, otherwise known as the scandal ridden city finds itself in the headlines once again with the whistleblower

572
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:19,000
accusation alluding to corruption among city staff.

573
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:24,000
But see we've all known for years that there's corruption rampant in the corridors of city hall.

574
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:32,000
When Harry was mayor, corrupt behavior was appreciated and even rewarded among city staff and council members after that scandal.

575
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:39,000
People believe that certain city staff who were definitely involved with the corruption would be replaced at the very least.

576
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:43,000
This includes the city manager, the city attorney.

577
02:40:43,000 --> 02:40:48,000
They had a finance who were all seen count howling to Harry's corrupt ways.

578
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:50,000
The meetings in those days were a show.

579
02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:51,000
Let me tell you.

580
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:56,000
However, it didn't happen leading them to believe that the corruption could continue.

581
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:58,000
And it has to this very day.

582
02:40:58,000 --> 02:41:00,000
And you've done nothing about it.

583
02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:04,000
How can this happen with the very expensive ethics officer you hired?

584
02:41:04,000 --> 02:41:08,000
Does he give a report on exactly what he is doing for his exorbitant salary?

585
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:14,000
And now the person who filed the complaint was filed about Debbie Moreno.

586
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:16,000
Debbie Moreno is still here.

587
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:22,000
Not even on leave and just prepared the staff report for item number four about $156 million.

588
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:25,000
So I suggest you have that reviewed by someone else.

589
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:28,000
I just don't understand what is wrong with all of you.

590
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:33,000
If corruption is alive and well as city hall and you know about it, then you should just resign.

591
02:41:33,000 --> 02:41:36,000
If you claim ignorance, then you should also resign.

592
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:38,000
Because ignorance has no excuse.

593
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:41,000
Now, Ashley, you should understand the power of a vote.

594
02:41:41,000 --> 02:41:46,000
How dare you come out with that op-ed before the item is even presented before council.

595
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:49,000
At least you could come speak here at the microphone like the rest of us.

596
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:53,000
How dare you speak about your childhood attending angels and duck's games.

597
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:57,000
Do you think people really care about that when they're just struggling to survive?

598
02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:03,000
I am sure you sat in the season ticketed seats if not your private box and you have the nerve to say that tourists should not pay.

599
02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:14,000
When Disney has increased their prices on everything from food to merchandise to parking to annual passes to daily admission passes.

600
02:42:14,000 --> 02:42:16,000
You have the nerve to say that.

601
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:25,000
You stated that over 300 million comes from the resort area and yet we are so far in debt that you had to borrow 65 million to balance the budget.

602
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:27,000
I wonder where all that many went.

603
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:31,000
After all, everything Debbie Morano has touched is suspect now.

604
02:42:31,000 --> 02:42:34,000
Disney is already spreading their lies.

605
02:42:34,000 --> 02:42:38,000
I received their survey call and it was full of blatant mistruths.

606
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:45,000
Do you think that people really care that Disney made appearances at community events when they can't feed their families or pay their rent?

607
02:42:45,000 --> 02:42:49,000
It's just proof that corruption still rules the dias.

608
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:56,000
The residents of this city have the right to vote and if the tourism tax doesn't pass at that point then so be it.

609
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:58,000
But we have the right to vote.

610
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:00,000
Let us vote.

611
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:01,000
Thank you.

612
02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:08,000
Next speaker, Ivonne Pena.

613
02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:14,000
Good evening, mayor and council members.

614
02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:19,000
My name is Ivonne Pena and I serve as the interim co executive director of a court.

615
02:43:19,000 --> 02:43:22,000
Orange County communities organized for responsible development.

616
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:28,000
For nearly 20 years, a court has worked alongside Anaheim families to ensure that the people who make the city run.

617
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:32,000
Our residents, workers and neighborhood leaders also share in its prosperity.

618
02:43:32,000 --> 02:43:37,000
Tonight, I'm here to urge you to place the proposed tourism and parking tax measures.

619
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:43,000
On the November 2026 ballot and give Anaheim voters not corporations the right to decide.

620
02:43:43,000 --> 02:43:47,000
Every day our communities feel the strain of a city budget stretched thin.

621
02:43:47,000 --> 02:43:52,000
Park school and repaired housing becomes less affordable and youth programs disappear.

622
02:43:52,000 --> 02:44:03,000
All a billion dollar entertainment corporations like Disneyland, the Honda Center and each stadium benefit from city resources without paying in admission or parking tax and continue to raise prices.

623
02:44:03,000 --> 02:44:09,000
That's why this measure matters. It's about fairness, accountability and community reimbursement.

624
02:44:09,000 --> 02:44:14,000
A modest 3% tourism tax on ticket sales and a 10% parking tax on large private lots.

625
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:18,000
Cogenerate up to 160 million each year for Anaheim's general fund.

626
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:19,000
Let's be clear.

627
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:23,000
Our support for this measure comes with a call for responsibility.

628
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:25,000
This new revenue must go back to the community.

629
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:28,000
Not expand already oversized police budgets.

630
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:34,000
Anaheim residents deserve to see the funds invested in affordable housing and pathways to home market and ships.

631
02:44:34,000 --> 02:44:37,000
Green spaces and parks that families can safely enjoy.

632
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:43,000
Youth programs and libraries that strengthen our neighborhoods and infrastructure improvements that make our city more livable and sustainable.

633
02:44:43,000 --> 02:44:45,000
We know what happens when you revenue comes in.

634
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:48,000
It is often claimed by departments that already received the largest share of the budget.

635
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:51,000
As community advocates who will continue to ensure that this money.

636
02:44:51,000 --> 02:44:53,000
Of live-sourcing families.

637
02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:55,000
Not deep into the quality.

638
02:44:55,000 --> 02:45:00,000
A 3% tax which is add 450 to $150 Disneyland tickets which we know.

639
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:11,000
There are a lot more now. A small amount for visitors, but a transformational investment for residents and communities. Cities like Seattle, Cleveland, and Chicago already use similar taxes to reinvest in people in neighborhood.

640
02:45:11,000 --> 02:45:23,000
Annaheim deserves the same. And to be clear, this is not a vote to impose a tax tonight. It is a vote to let the people of Annaheim decide in 2026 whether corporations are profit most from the city should finally contribute their fair share.

641
02:45:23,000 --> 02:45:29,000
I have a record and the communities we serve from Vinita to Pauline Street to Bonnetosa. I urge you to move these measures forward.

642
02:45:29,000 --> 02:45:35,000
Let it's censure Annaheim's economic engine works for everyone. Not just for a few corporations, and that the revenue generates.

643
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:38,000
Truly comes home to the people. Thank you.

644
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:43,000
Our next speaker, Angela Zachawa, and Randy Whitmore.

645
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:53,000
Good evening, Mayor and council members. My name is Hanhens Lachua, and I serve as a digital organizer out of court.

646
02:45:53,000 --> 02:45:59,000
I work alongside Annaheim residents in our neighborhood unions, families in Guinita, Pauline Street, and Ponderosa neighborhoods.

647
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:03,000
We're fighting for safer streets, affordable housing and stronger public services.

648
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:08,000
Every day, these families feel the strain of a city budget that struggles to meet basic needs.

649
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:16,000
We need a budget that reflects the people who make Annaheim run residents, workers, and neighborhood leaders, so they can finally share the prosperity they help create.

650
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:19,000
That's why the tourism and parking tax measures matter.

651
02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:24,000
Right now, Annaheim's largest entertainment venues Disneyland, the Honda Center and the Angel Stadium.

652
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:33,000
Benefit from our roads, public safety, and everyday labor of our residents. Yeah, Annaheim collects no ticket or parking tax from these revenues.

653
02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:35,000
Sorry, from these venues.

654
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:43,000
Disneyland alone attracts over 27 million visitors a year, and the city receives revenue only from sales tax on food and merchandise, not from ticket sales.

655
02:46:43,000 --> 02:46:47,000
Meanwhile, our neighborhoods face broken sidewalks, aging parks, and rising rents.

656
02:46:47,000 --> 02:46:56,000
The proposed tourism and parking taxes would change that by adding modest 3% on ticket sales in 10% on paid parking on major venues.

657
02:46:56,000 --> 02:47:03,000
Together, these measures could generate up to 160 million every year for Annaheim's general fund without raising cost for residents.

658
02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:11,000
But 3% tax only adds $4.50 to a $150 ticket, barely noticeable to visitors, but transformative for Annaheim neighborhoods.

659
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:17,000
But let me be clear, this revenue must go into community needs, not into expanding policing.

660
02:47:17,000 --> 02:47:23,000
Residents already see how much of our general fund is consumed by police spending while community services and programs fall behind.

661
02:47:23,000 --> 02:47:26,000
And families face increasing instability.

662
02:47:27,000 --> 02:47:34,000
Real safety comes from stable housing, safe public spaces, and strong youth programs, not from over policing our neighborhoods.

663
02:47:34,000 --> 02:47:46,000
In 2022, when Annaheim considered a 2% tax opponent's race concerns that the tax could afford to take a price increase increases.

664
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:53,000
Even without the tax, Disneyland has continued to raise ticket prices throughout the year, and the city still receives no revenue from admission sales.

665
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:56,000
Many residents barely cost while the company's benefit.

666
02:47:56,000 --> 02:47:59,000
These types of taxes are not new, and they work.

667
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:02,000
Seattle collects the 5% admissions tax to support arts and culture.

668
02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:06,000
Cleveland's 8% in Chicago's 9% taxes fund in Central Public Services.

669
02:48:06,000 --> 02:48:09,000
Annaheim's 3% proposal is farmer, modest, and comparison.

670
02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:13,000
But because of the skill of our tourism economy, it would deliver extraordinary benefits.

671
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:16,000
And to be clear, this is not a vote to impose a tax tonight.

672
02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:20,000
It is a vote to let Annaheim voters decide whether corporations should finally contribute their fair share.

673
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:23,000
This is about fairness transparency and democratic accountability.

674
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:28,000
Our neighborhood units expect to see a city that invests in them as much as it invests in tourism.

675
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:33,000
On their behalf, I urge you to move these measures to the 2026 November ballot.

676
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:36,000
So residents, not special interests, have the final say.

677
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:41,000
Let's ensure Annaheim's economic strength lifts everyone, not just a few at the top.

678
02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:42,000
Thank you.

679
02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:54,000
Good evening.

680
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:59,000
Randy Whitmer, I'm here in opposition of the skate tax.

681
02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:04,000
Annaheim's been a good employer from not only me, but a lot of my members at.

682
02:49:04,000 --> 02:49:09,000
Though as it is, cost of living is going up for everyone.

683
02:49:09,000 --> 02:49:15,000
He cannot really get a decent meal for a family of less than 100 bucks.

684
02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:19,000
It's everything is going up.

685
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:24,000
The end result of this, gay tax, who's going to be paying for people going to the park.

686
02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:28,000
A lot of people, they're looking at their bills every week.

687
02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:30,000
Costs of food is going up.

688
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:33,000
There are utilities, everything else at home.

689
02:49:33,000 --> 02:49:40,000
So, you know, looking at the people that's coming in from out of town to come to the park, they're going to look at their budget.

690
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:43,000
Well, you know what, it's going to be cheaper to go to Florida.

691
02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:47,000
It's going to be cheaper to go to downstreet to not spurry farm.

692
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:50,000
It's going to be cheaper to go to Magic Mountains.

693
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:52,000
It's going to be cheaper to go to SeaWorld.

694
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:56,000
They're going to stop coming to Anneheim if this goes up.

695
02:49:56,000 --> 02:50:01,000
You know, Disney's been a good partner for a lot of the residents here.

696
02:50:01,000 --> 02:50:06,000
So, let's take a visiting pick up all their toys and pull them out of the sandbox and move to Riverside.

697
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:08,000
What would Anneheim do then?

698
02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:13,000
Well, you know, work with Disney, find an alternate to this gate tax.

699
02:50:13,000 --> 02:50:14,000
I don't like it.

700
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:18,000
I'm sure a lot of people don't like it either.

701
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:29,000
Good evening, Mayor.

702
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:31,000
City Council.

703
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:32,000
My name's Henry Hellebrick.

704
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:37,000
I represent 1,100 plumbers and steam fitters in Southern California and Orange County.

705
02:50:37,000 --> 02:50:41,000
And I'm here to say we do not support the gate tax.

706
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:44,000
We have a partnership with Disney.

707
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:51,000
We have 54 people working there, 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

708
02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:54,000
and then plus 100 construction guys there.

709
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:57,000
We honor our partnership with them.

710
02:50:57,000 --> 02:50:58,000
They're not for it.

711
02:50:58,000 --> 02:50:59,000
And we're not for it.

712
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:02,000
Thank you.

713
02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:10,000
Our next speaker, James McDonnell and Erica Gomez.

714
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:13,000
I could even marry Ken and members of City Council.

715
02:51:13,000 --> 02:51:15,000
Thank you for the chance to address you tonight.

716
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:18,000
My name is James McDonnell with Ambrick Hospitality.

717
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:22,000
I'm General Manager of the Clementine Hotel and Sleets in the Disneyland Resort.

718
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:26,000
Our hotel has been in business for 40 years serving families from all over the country

719
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:29,000
who come for way to Anneheim has to offer.

720
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:35,000
I want to ask you to say no to a tax which would take all those things that make Anneheim has to offer

721
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:39,000
and make them inaccessible and impractical for many.

722
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:45,000
Making the attractions and draws Anneheim more expensive for both visitors and residents is not a good idea

723
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,000
and we take the city in the wrong direction.

724
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:51,000
We have 60 hardworking employees from throughout Anneheim and surrounding areas

725
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:55,000
who rely on the families that work hard and save to make vacations to Disney happen.

726
02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:59,000
Those visitors keep our rooms booked and our hotel full.

727
02:51:59,000 --> 02:52:02,000
If they stop coming, jobs will be put in danger.

728
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:05,000
Families that rely on tourism will be affected.

729
02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:11,000
The end result of families choosing to go elsewhere choosing more business and visitor-friendly destinations will be empty rooms.

730
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:15,000
If your visitors and less TOT and sales tax revenue for the city.

731
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:17,000
And that affects all of Anneheim.

732
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:20,000
The city is facing tough budget choices.

733
02:52:20,000 --> 02:52:23,000
Why make the situation even harder by choking off the economic engine?

734
02:52:23,000 --> 02:52:26,000
That makes Anneheim so successful.

735
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:29,000
Please vote no on the gate and parking taxes.

736
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:31,000
Thank you.

737
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:35,000
Erica Gomez?

738
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:46,000
Good evening, Major 8kins and members of the Anneheim City Council.

739
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:49,000
Thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening.

740
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:52,000
My name is Erica Gomez and I'm proud to be the

741
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:59,000
major manager of the Cortona Inning Suites at 2029 South Harbor Boulevard here in Anneheim.

742
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:02,000
Our hotel has been in business for over 22 years.

743
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:07,000
Serving cost-conscious travelers and families from all over the country.

744
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:15,000
Tonight, I want to urge to you to say no to a gate or to teaming related tax on attractions here in Anneheim.

745
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:21,000
Making the attractions and draws in Anneheim more expensive for both visitors and residents.

746
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:25,000
Make zero cents and we'll take the city and the wrong direction.

747
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:34,000
We have 40 hard work in staff members from throughout Anneheim and us around in areas who rely on visitors to keep our rooms booked and our hotel full.

748
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:40,000
When the subcoming jobs are put into danger and families that rely on tourism, it starts to hurt.

749
02:53:40,000 --> 02:53:42,000
Make no mistakes.

750
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:49,000
The will of the travelers who say at the highest price hotels probably won't notice the cost increase.

751
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:54,000
But the Cortona is aimed and serves hard work in middle class families and tourists.

752
02:53:54,000 --> 02:54:02,000
The kind who need to save for many months is no longer to take a trip to Anneheim to visit Disneyland.

753
02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:06,000
They're going to notice the increase in cost and they will say no thanks.

754
02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:11,000
We'll take our vacation somewhere else and they won't be alone.

755
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:16,000
That story will be repeated over and over and the result will be empty rooms.

756
02:54:16,000 --> 02:54:21,000
Fewer visitors and last TOT and sales tax revenue for the city.

757
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:24,000
Please vote no on this terrible idea.

758
02:54:24,000 --> 02:54:27,000
Thank you.

759
02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:34,000
Our next speaker.

760
02:54:35,000 --> 02:54:36,000
Good evening.

761
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:38,000
My name is Danny Ferri.

762
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:43,000
I represent the Orange County Hots on Logging Association, including more than 90 hotels throughout Orange County.

763
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:48,000
I'm here speaking tonight in opposition to 27 and I urge the council to not advance this proposal.

764
02:54:48,000 --> 02:54:53,000
At its core this is a regress of consumption tax that flies in the face of Anneheim's values.

765
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:59,000
Orce it's a truly valid highly targeted tax that clearly is intended to tax a decent and resort.

766
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:03,000
There's orders the economic engine of the city of Anneheim as well as the county more broadly.

767
02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:06,000
This tax absolutely would impact this engine instead of precedent.

768
02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:11,000
I could see a future increase that would strangle the engine that draws this revenue.

769
02:55:11,000 --> 02:55:13,000
I don't just like to address something.

770
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:20,000
You know, I keep hearing over the course of this conversation tonight and over the last few weeks that this doesn't impact hotels.

771
02:55:20,000 --> 02:55:22,000
That's absolutely not true.

772
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:30,000
The hotels depend on visitors come to the city come to the city of feeling free and able to spend city on money on rooms.

773
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:38,000
I hear the argument that 3% on a hundred dollars ticket might not change in anyone's mind on buying that ticket to Disneyland.

774
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,000
I'm not concerned about that.

775
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:45,000
I'm concerned about the fact that that family that is coming from Iowa and is decided that yes we will buy those tickets.

776
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:50,000
But where else will we save and where do they will save is on hotels.

777
02:55:50,000 --> 02:55:57,000
Where they will save is saying hey, I'd rather go ahead and spend that money on a hotel in Costa Mesa or an Irvine or in Garden Grove.

778
02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:01,000
Rather than spend it here where I'm five minutes away from the home from the resort.

779
02:56:01,000 --> 02:56:06,000
We do hotels and our members do fund almost half the general fund.

780
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:10,000
If you think that this doesn't have an impact on TLT it absolutely does.

781
02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:11,000
It impacts our rooms.

782
02:56:11,000 --> 02:56:15,000
We're already seeing competition coming from throughout the county and in Long Beach.

783
02:56:15,000 --> 02:56:18,000
This has an impact and I respectfully urge you to sign up.

784
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:21,000
Thank you.

785
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:24,000
Our next speaker.

786
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:30,000
Followed by West Jones.

787
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:33,000
Good evening Madam Mayor council members.

788
02:56:33,000 --> 02:56:38,000
My name is Doug Manjione and I'm speaking on behalf of the skilled and trained workers of I.B.W.441.

789
02:56:38,000 --> 02:56:40,000
We are the construction I.B.W.

790
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:43,000
I.B.W. with this time is opposing this ordinance.

791
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:46,000
We have a partnered with Disney Results since 1956.

792
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:49,000
When they first broke ground to the present day expansions.

793
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:54,000
A Star Wars Marvel land and a looking to start building Disney forward.

794
02:56:54,000 --> 02:57:00,000
Most of our members at one time or another have worked to enhance and expand the resort with good wages and benefits.

795
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:07,000
I.B.W.441 also represents 200 workers doing right maintenance for Disney Anaheim Results company.

796
02:57:07,000 --> 02:57:14,000
And at any one time we have 300 or more outside electrical construction workers in the park every night.

797
02:57:14,000 --> 02:57:18,000
We also enjoy partnerships with OC Vive for the construction taking place.

798
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:22,000
And I know some of you have came to the topping off event.

799
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:25,000
We embrace our partnerships and we support our partners.

800
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:30,000
This ordinance on the surface says it's a citywide general tax.

801
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:35,000
But when you look at the restrictions of the ordinance it seems to only apply to one company.

802
02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:41,000
All others are exempt by either size or contractual obligations and this won't apply to them.

803
02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:53,000
The ordinance also speaks to the citywide importance of an necessity for preservation of protection of public peace, health, safety and or welfare of the community, which is a valid police power.

804
02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:56,000
This is an important aspect of city government.

805
02:57:56,000 --> 02:58:08,000
But as one company responsible for the whole city and does this company and question are they attracting all these criminals to the city of Anaheim.

806
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:16,000
I've been there a resort I've never been I've never been robbed I've never been mugged I came from New York City that was a daily occurrence.

807
02:58:16,000 --> 02:58:25,000
So to me it looks okay you know but who knows I'm sure other parts of the city do need more police police presence.

808
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:37,000
I understand I thought the company reimbursed Anaheim for the police presence in the resort and I assume the angel stadium did the same whatever there's a game up the street from us there's 30 police cars out there and and auxiliary police.

809
02:58:37,000 --> 02:58:45,000
I I thought the angels kind of paid for that or supported that and if they don't maybe you should talk to them about it.

810
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:54,000
neighboring cities have put sales tax to pay for more public safety and they're approved overwhelmingly garden grove dits and Anaheim Westminster.

811
02:58:54,000 --> 02:59:06,000
But you have to ask do you need that if you do that maybe something you need to think about because it is everyone's responsibility and it seems like we're always going through the truth there's a big company they make a lot of money.

812
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:10,000
Let's go let's go tax them they can they can pay for all this.

813
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:16,000
Disney resorts Anaheim as a large Southern California clientele.

814
02:59:16,000 --> 02:59:24,000
Anaheim residents attend daily as well as out of town is from garden grove sanna and a coast of May so Laguna Beach, Mission VA Hall,

815
02:59:24,000 --> 02:59:28,000
Placentia and all the other cities in Orange County and LA County.

816
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:36,000
They come here they spend their money. I think you should put a pause on this rethink this in.

817
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:46,000
This goes on the ballot in 2027 it'll take effect in 2027 you're finally going to get a hundred million dollars a year from TOT tax and you should rethink that.

818
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:48,000
Thank you very much Mr. and Jenny.

819
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:50,000
Next speaker West Jones.

820
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:53,000
Followed by William and Connor.

821
02:59:56,000 --> 02:59:58,000
Mayor Council.

822
02:59:58,000 --> 03:00:00,000
My name is Wesley Jones.

823
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:10,440
And I'm a resident of Atahime. I've come to talk about two issues tonight. The first one is the accusation

824
03:00:10,440 --> 03:00:19,840
is by Ms. Beau Ford. I think that's the way it pronounces it. I believe these accusations as the mayor said

825
03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:34,840
are serious and need to be investigated. And I think these allegations need to be investigated independently of our city manager.

826
03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:44,840
And independently of people in the city by some sort of outside agency.

827
03:00:44,840 --> 03:00:53,840
Any front to you put up the name of this and this is an employee matter and we can't discuss it.

828
03:00:53,840 --> 03:01:09,840
Just not fly. These are citizens tax dollars. Next I would like to urge the council to put the entertainment tax on the ballot and let the voters decide.

829
03:01:09,840 --> 03:01:27,840
What all these people saying is, for you guys not to vote yes, honoured is, we don't trust the citizens. We don't trust our voters to make the right decision.

830
03:01:27,840 --> 03:01:40,840
I think one thing you need to do before it goes on the ballot is to put a strong definition of how this Turkey is going to be carved up.

831
03:01:40,840 --> 03:01:49,840
Where the money is going to go? But I urge you to put it on the ballot. So thank you very much.

832
03:01:57,840 --> 03:02:09,840
Good evening, madam mayor and city council members. My name is William O'Connell and I'm a member of the visit and I'm board of directors.

833
03:02:09,840 --> 03:02:20,840
With regards to the aid hit employee housing initiative, I encourage you to support a 50 50 split distribution between the marketing fund and the transportation fund.

834
03:02:20,840 --> 03:02:42,840
Resort community commends the council's leadership and modifying the anti tourism improvement district funding formula. This change which provides housing resources for resort workers without increasing visitor costs exemplifies the innovative community driven solutions are resort community needs, especially in these uncertain economic times.

835
03:02:42,840 --> 03:02:51,840
The business community like the city faces increasing costs and wages well striving to keep an eye on affordable world class destination.

836
03:02:51,840 --> 03:03:01,840
We are open to collaborating with the city on solutions but caution against long term tax to address a short term budget short fall.

837
03:03:01,840 --> 03:03:11,840
The Hanam Resort area is the city's economic engine generating 279 million in tax revenue nearly 60% of the general fund.

838
03:03:11,840 --> 03:03:18,840
In addition to tax on resort patrons would further hinder visitation and investment.

839
03:03:19,840 --> 03:03:32,840
The council has consistently appalled visit of Anaheim's vision for a high quality of life for residents, a thriving business environment, a welcoming atmosphere for visitors through growth and investment.

840
03:03:32,840 --> 03:03:48,840
With projects like Disneyland forward OC vibe and West Anaheim's revitalization efforts the city is poised to see significant financial benefit in the coming budget years imposing additional tax on the tourism community.

841
03:03:48,840 --> 03:03:59,840
Only further to further tie further city budgets to tourism fluctuations and cause investors and travelers to reconsider Anaheim.

842
03:03:59,840 --> 03:04:10,840
The assumption that this proposal will only affect out of town visitors is also incorrect. Over one third of the Anaheim residents would be impacted by an entertainment tax on major venues.

843
03:04:10,840 --> 03:04:23,840
To grow the tax base and fund services the proven path is clear. Keep Anaheim attractive for investment. New parking and entertainment taxes would impede the city's economic progress.

844
03:04:23,840 --> 03:04:42,840
The business community is ready to work with the city on creative solutions to budgetary challenges. I respectfully urge you to reject the proposed tax and continue policies that have provided job opportunities and reliable revenue for Anaheim. Thank you.

845
03:04:43,840 --> 03:04:52,840
Our next three speakers, Cindy Marquez, Charlie Carnau and Andrea Romero.

846
03:04:53,840 --> 03:05:01,840
Anybody who knows me knows I hate speaking so here we go. First I like to address the chamber as labor.

847
03:05:01,840 --> 03:05:16,840
We are always with the community and with our fellow police officers and firefighters, but our first priority is always going to be our workers and they are the most affected by this tax. I keep hearing the word.

848
03:05:16,840 --> 03:05:28,840
Park visits or down 17 million down from 58 million. Our workers are the first to be affected.

849
03:05:28,840 --> 03:05:35,840
The decrease in the visitors has caused I represent 382 members.

850
03:05:35,840 --> 03:05:37,840
Candy makers. Yeah.

851
03:05:37,840 --> 03:05:55,840
At Disneyland Resort out of the 382 at our most busiest time if I'm lucky I have 206 working out of those 206 around 100 of them are working one to two days at a time where they're used to working six to seven.

852
03:05:55,840 --> 03:06:10,840
My full time are down from 40 hours to 30. We're not saying don't tax. We're just saying this is not the time. Thank you.

853
03:06:11,840 --> 03:06:25,840
Hi. Good evening. I'm Aaron Council. My name is Charlie Carnau and I'm a senior research analyst for you tonight here local 11 representing over 32,000 hospitality workers in southern California, Arizona speaking on item 15 the Olympic Games agreement.

854
03:06:26,840 --> 03:06:42,840
We don't believe in subsidizing the Olympic Games. We don't believe in repeating the same pattern of giveaways from the city area where the city must continually create exemptions promise public resources or otherwise make promise to prime promises to private interest on the hopes of chasing tourism.

855
03:06:42,840 --> 03:06:47,840
It's a perpetual race to the bottom. We believe we provide value and should demand it ourselves.

856
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:55,840
Specifically we question whether the Olympic Games will truly pay for themselves prior to the city of Santa Monica entering a games agreement to host beach volleyball.

857
03:06:55,840 --> 03:07:01,840
The city ordered a fiscal impact study that found the city could lose 1.45 million dollars.

858
03:07:01,840 --> 03:07:25,840
It's a $10.65 million. If they didn't host the games because people would come to be there without the expenses of hosting and they decided to walk away from doing a games agreement.

859
03:07:25,840 --> 03:07:34,840
As the city of Anaheim done a similar cost study proving that hosting indoor volleyball here will generate money rather than potentially put us all in the hook.

860
03:07:34,840 --> 03:07:38,840
Many of the same reasons that drove Santa Monica to reject the agreement apply to us.

861
03:07:38,840 --> 03:07:47,840
For example, the city is obligated to determine the normal and customary service levels provided for the Olympics and their costs in comparison to the city of LA.

862
03:07:47,840 --> 03:07:53,840
The city of LA completed the regulations to establish what those service levels are and their costs.

863
03:07:53,840 --> 03:07:57,840
And so what are they and why it wasn't provided as part of the staff report.

864
03:07:57,840 --> 03:08:06,840
If the information is unavailable, the city is agreeing to essentially unknown Olympic reimbursement rates to provide unknown level of services.

865
03:08:06,840 --> 03:08:12,840
And as as the police said earlier, there already they already have quite a lot to deal with.

866
03:08:12,840 --> 03:08:23,840
I wonder what the normal and customary level of services at the Honda Center during events normally and whether the city could be on the hook for that as part for the Olympics games and it shouldn't be that way.

867
03:08:23,840 --> 03:08:33,840
I'd also note that the games agreement with the city of LA provides for priority reimbursement to LA and the agreement presented here prevents taking legal action against the Olympics committee.

868
03:08:33,840 --> 03:08:40,840
The city of LA and the state for appropriate reimbursement which leaves Anaheim potentially on the hook for unreimbursed costs.

869
03:08:40,840 --> 03:08:46,840
Secondly, at a time of challenges to our municipal budget, the city is agreeing here to not apply any ticking ticket or parking tax.

870
03:08:46,840 --> 03:08:50,840
The Olympic games despite all of these potential costs.

871
03:08:50,840 --> 03:09:05,840
Anaheim is a popular attraction and we should act like it and not sell ourselves short. Please vote no on this bad deal for Anaheim.

872
03:09:05,840 --> 03:09:16,840
Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members. My name is Andrea Romero and I'm with unite here local 11 representing over 30,000 hospitality workers in southern California.

873
03:09:16,840 --> 03:09:26,840
Anaheim is behind regarding labor standards. Anaheim has no living wage standard, which is a legal requirement and both long beach in Los Angeles.

874
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:34,840
The Olympic and Paralympic games will take place across many different venues and there will be competition for workers.

875
03:09:34,840 --> 03:09:43,840
But when Anaheim has no legal standard for a fair wage, why would the workers choose to come to work at this venue?

876
03:09:43,840 --> 03:09:50,840
Finally, there are no metrics or requirements or benefits related to local hiring.

877
03:09:50,840 --> 03:09:58,840
Workforce development, use use sports or anything that at least a lay is getting as part of their Olympic agreement.

878
03:09:58,840 --> 03:10:04,840
Anaheim is a popular attraction. We should act like it and not sell ourselves short.

879
03:10:04,840 --> 03:10:07,840
Vote no on this bad deal for Anaheim. Thank you.

880
03:10:07,840 --> 03:10:15,840
The next three speakers, Austin Lynch Elizabeth Galindo and Esmerga Dante.

881
03:10:15,840 --> 03:10:21,840
Good evening, Austin Lynch, organizing director with unite here locally 11 and I'm a company tonight.

882
03:10:21,840 --> 03:10:29,840
We've got a number of our members to voice their opinions on several items, but I have two Anaheim superheroes with me.

883
03:10:29,840 --> 03:10:42,840
Brenda and Trin, could you stand up? We've got two, these are two folks who have a combined 55 years of service at the Convention Center and at Angel Stadium.

884
03:10:42,840 --> 03:10:52,840
We're here to speak in favor of renewal of our marks.

885
03:10:52,840 --> 03:10:58,840
Contract to continue providing services at the Convention Center.

886
03:10:58,840 --> 03:11:09,840
We have a strong partnership with our mark, and we have a contract that provides family health care, pension, even a legal plan.

887
03:11:09,840 --> 03:11:21,840
Strong service charges, and so you can be confident that you're getting not only the best service in the Convention industry.

888
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:33,840
Not only a strong environmental program, but with our mark you're providing family sustaining jobs for hundreds of Anaheim and area residents.

889
03:11:33,840 --> 03:11:49,840
And it's something that contributes to the community and then you could be proud of. And so we urge you to support that renewal on item 14. Thank you.

890
03:11:50,840 --> 03:11:58,840
Well, I don't know if it's okay. My name is Elisa Bergalindo. I'm a member of an area here in Los Calilevent, who represents more than 30.

891
03:11:58,840 --> 03:12:03,840
30,000 workers from the hospital in the south of California and Arizona.

892
03:12:03,840 --> 03:12:10,840
I hope you don't agree with the players. I don't believe in repeating the same thing as the decision of the area of the area of the city.

893
03:12:10,840 --> 03:12:14,840
It's a really good area.

894
03:12:14,840 --> 03:12:22,840
For example, the city is accepting to apply no impuesto to the Boletonia, the establishment of the Olympic Games.

895
03:12:22,840 --> 03:12:32,840
Despite the fact that you don't know if you're going to open the gaps and also worry that you don't have the study of the fiscal impact.

896
03:12:32,840 --> 03:12:40,840
Santa Monica consider organizing the events of the Boletonia, as part of the Olympic Games, but I decided not to do it.

897
03:12:40,840 --> 03:12:49,840
Since it's your day and determined that the costs were from 1.4 to 5,000,000 and 2,000,000 dollars.

898
03:12:49,840 --> 03:12:58,840
I've been discovering that the city would be necessary to not incurring these expenses to organize these events of the Olympic Games.

899
03:12:58,840 --> 03:13:04,840
So the tourists would sell Santa Monica to be in the region during the Olympic Games.

900
03:13:04,840 --> 03:13:08,840
Of all five traditional and unknown events.

901
03:13:08,840 --> 03:13:12,840
Please don't continue with that.

902
03:13:12,840 --> 03:13:19,840
Anahein is a dissinocopular and we must share it with us as a result of our investments.

903
03:13:19,840 --> 03:13:22,840
We don't have the same agreement for Anahein.

904
03:13:22,840 --> 03:13:24,840
Thank you.

905
03:13:31,840 --> 03:13:38,840
I am a member of the United Local Eleven, also an employer in Employee in Anahein.

906
03:13:38,840 --> 03:13:42,840
I am requesting that you won't know at the Aquarzo.

907
03:13:42,840 --> 03:13:46,840
No to the to the to the games to the agreement to the games.

908
03:13:46,840 --> 03:13:55,840
I don't believe that the repetition of the same cycle that concessions from the era of the previous mayor.

909
03:13:55,840 --> 03:14:00,840
It's an it's an a career is a perpetual doing this below, for example.

910
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:12,840
The city is perpetuating not an applicable in any any tax to the tickets to the parking during the Olympic Games.

911
03:14:12,840 --> 03:14:17,840
Even though they we don't know if there has been a reimbursement for those expenses.

912
03:14:17,840 --> 03:14:24,840
Also, it I'm also worried to know that there has not been a study to in for the physical impact.

913
03:14:24,840 --> 03:14:34,840
Anahein has considered organizing the events of the volleyball on the beach as part of the Olympic Games, but decided not to do it because of the after the study.

914
03:14:34,840 --> 03:14:50,840
They determined that it would be a cost to the city of $1.45 million and $12.1 million which was discovered that the city in reality would be beneficial without organizing such Olympic events.

915
03:14:50,840 --> 03:14:59,840
Even though that the tourism and we would come to Santa Monica for this region during these games and it.

916
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,000
Even though those cause would be additional and unknown, please do not continue with this agreement.

917
03:15:09,000 --> 03:15:20,000
Anaheim is a popular destination and we need to prove ourselves as such and not underestimate. Please vote no.

918
03:15:20,000 --> 03:15:26,000
This is not a good thing for Anaheim. This agreement would be bad for Anaheim. Thank you.

919
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:50,000
My name is Stephanie. I'm a lifelong Anaheim resident. Our city is facing $60 million budget deficit and we cannot keep asking residents to bear the cost while billion-dollar corporations get a free pass.

920
03:15:50,000 --> 03:16:00,000
It's time to be honest about who benefits and who pays. Disney is not struggling. They welcome 28 million visitors a year and bring in more than 2 billion annually.

921
03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:14,000
Ticket prices go up every year and their profits continue to climb. Meanwhile, our city built the Mickey and Friends Parking structure for $90 million and we're still paying off the bonds 25-day years later.

922
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:26,000
Disney charges $40 a day to park there. That's $410,000 a day just from one structure. A simple 10% parking tax could generate nearly $15 million a year.

923
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:34,000
Money we desperately need for public services like parks, libraries, road repairs and police. Other cities have figured this out.

924
03:16:34,000 --> 03:16:44,000
Avalon which also relies heavily on tourism has a 4% entertainment tax. It works. It's fair. It helps fund the essentials for both residents and visitors.

925
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:56,000
Anaheim should follow their lead with one important difference. Anaheim residents should be exempt. We already pay through property taxes, sales tax, and the daily cost of living in a city built around tourism.

926
03:16:56,000 --> 03:17:08,000
We shouldn't be taxed again just to enjoy our own community. Let's talk about the loopholes. The city's resolution deliberately excludes Honda Center, despite residents calling for its inclusion.

927
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:18,000
The venue narrowly avoids the 20,000 seat threshold and doesn't charge directly for parking which conveniently exempts it from the proposed taxes.

928
03:17:18,000 --> 03:17:28,000
These aren't technicalities. They're carve outs. The owners of the Honda Center are major campaign donors to several council members and Disney has a long history of doing the same.

929
03:17:28,000 --> 03:17:38,000
When powerful interest shape policy to protect themselves and residents are told to proposal is somehow unfair to Disney that's not equity that's influence.

930
03:17:38,000 --> 03:17:56,000
Let's be real. Disney has never been afraid to raise prices. They do it every year and people still come. They know their brand is strong and the demand is steady. If Disney can charge premium prices for magic. Anaheim can ask a fair price to fund reality.

931
03:17:56,000 --> 03:18:04,000
This brings us to a serious concern. The mayor published an op-ed yesterday one day before the vote opposing the tax.

932
03:18:04,000 --> 03:18:16,000
That is a clear conflict of interest. When an elected official publicly campaigns against a measure they are supposed to vote on, especially one that affects their donors it undermines public trust.

933
03:18:16,000 --> 03:18:23,000
It raises questions about whose interests are being served. We cannot rely on the transient occupancy tax alone.

934
03:18:23,000 --> 03:18:32,000
It has come in much lower than projected. We need new revenue sources. We need leadership that puts residents first. So I urge you.

935
03:18:32,000 --> 03:18:35,000
Vote yes on the gate tax. Close the loop holes.

936
03:18:35,000 --> 03:18:42,000
Confront the conflicts and make Anaheim's economy work for everyone. Not the powerful few. Thank you.

937
03:18:42,000 --> 03:18:51,000
Our next three speakers, Jose Geran, John Balka and Ken Patiste.

938
03:18:53,000 --> 03:19:02,000
Good evening. My name is Jose Geran. I'm the president of the Anaheim Police Association.

939
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:11,000
I understand the concerns that are tonight about the proposed tourism and parking tax measures. Nobody here wants to jeopardize our tourism economy.

940
03:19:11,000 --> 03:19:14,000
It's what keeps Anaheim strong and we are all proud of that.

941
03:19:14,000 --> 03:19:21,000
But tourism also depends on something that is not negotiable in that public safety, strong infrastructure and reliable city services.

942
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:29,000
These aren't brings approximately 50 to 80,000 residents every single day on top of the 350,000 residents here in Anaheim.

943
03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:37,000
That means daily emergency response, traffic control and infrastructure support on a scale that most cities never experience.

944
03:19:37,000 --> 03:19:40,000
Right now Anaheim is short about 70 police officers.

945
03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:45,000
Compared to what independent staffing studies recommend for a city with this level of daily activity.

946
03:19:45,000 --> 03:19:50,000
The mayor pointed out that visitors already fund much at Anaheim's budget and that is true.

947
03:19:50,000 --> 03:19:58,000
But those contributions primarily come through hotel tax, also known as the transit occupancy tax with this TOT, which is paid by overnight guests.

948
03:19:58,000 --> 03:20:07,000
However, millions of visitors come to Anaheim every single day that drain but don't contribute to those essential city services.

949
03:20:07,000 --> 03:20:10,000
What I'm here to say is simple is to let the voter decide.

950
03:20:10,000 --> 03:20:18,000
We cannot continue to add tens of thousands of people in tourist city every day without increasing the resources needed to keep them in our residents safe.

951
03:20:18,000 --> 03:20:22,000
And despite all the rumors, this isn't about law enforcement.

952
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:27,000
It's about doing the right thing for the most important shareholders in the city and that's our residents.

953
03:20:27,000 --> 03:20:29,000
So how much is enough?

954
03:20:29,000 --> 03:20:31,000
If we have more we can do more for our residents.

955
03:20:31,000 --> 03:20:39,000
Just like some of our largest employers in the city who race prices to strengthen their businesses to increase their profit margins and to invest into ongoing infrastructure.

956
03:20:40,000 --> 03:20:42,000
And we do not oppose that.

957
03:20:42,000 --> 03:20:49,000
We simply want the same opportunity to ensure Anaheim can invest in its own 18 facilities, public safety and community services.

958
03:20:49,000 --> 03:20:51,000
Anaheim is built on dreams and opportunity.

959
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:57,000
But that shouldn't be limited to what happens at bigger businesses across our city and our neighborhoods deserve to thrive as well.

960
03:20:57,000 --> 03:21:02,000
We need cleaner parks, safer roads, stronger neighborhoods and more police officers.

961
03:21:03,000 --> 03:21:10,000
So let's work together on a fair and responsible solution that keeps Anaheim safe, strong and welcoming.

962
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:14,000
For the residents and the millions of guests who make this city shine.

963
03:21:14,000 --> 03:21:17,000
We are not asking you to adopt this measure tonight.

964
03:21:17,000 --> 03:21:20,000
We are asking you to let the voters decide.

965
03:21:20,000 --> 03:21:25,000
If you disagree with it, you will have an opportunity to campaign against it.

966
03:21:25,000 --> 03:21:28,000
But the people of Anaheim deserve the right to have their say.

967
03:21:28,000 --> 03:21:40,000
We have them the opportunity to vote for a better Anaheim, which is safer streets, better parks, better facilities, stronger infrastructure, more affordable housing and resources to help the city thrive.

968
03:21:40,000 --> 03:21:45,000
I look forward to hearing your thoughtful discussion related to the tourism and parking tax measures.

969
03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:50,000
I urge you to vote to allow these tax measures to move to the November 2026 general election.

970
03:21:50,000 --> 03:21:54,000
So the voters of Anaheim may decide in a solution to keep an Anaheim strong.

971
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:57,000
Safe and allowing businesses.

972
03:21:58,000 --> 03:22:03,000
The residents and the workforce to all thrive together. Thank you.

973
03:22:03,000 --> 03:22:21,000
Good evening. Honorable Mayor, council members.

974
03:22:22,000 --> 03:22:27,000
Most of you probably know that I'm a rep or I'd be double local 47.

975
03:22:27,000 --> 03:22:31,000
And the majority of our members here we have three contracts.

976
03:22:31,000 --> 03:22:34,000
They're all out of the enterprise or utility fund.

977
03:22:34,000 --> 03:22:38,000
So we have no skin in the game when it comes to the general fund.

978
03:22:38,000 --> 03:22:44,000
But I know what it's like when the general fund isn't doing good because that usually means you're not attracting.

979
03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:50,000
Whether it's police officers, fire or even public works people to the city.

980
03:22:50,000 --> 03:22:56,000
And I worked here for 26 years and I seen the difference when I first came here till now.

981
03:22:56,000 --> 03:23:03,000
That most of the places around the Disney resort are okay to work with but there's still a few that.

982
03:23:03,000 --> 03:23:07,000
It's even unsafe to work there at night for the utility guys to come out.

983
03:23:07,000 --> 03:23:11,000
And I've always heard about Disney that city bends over backwards for Disney.

984
03:23:11,000 --> 03:23:17,000
Well, this one is about letting the residents decide.

985
03:23:17,000 --> 03:23:22,000
I don't want you to fear like we have some skin of the game because we don't.

986
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:26,000
But this is about keeping the general fund going.

987
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:29,000
And we know that Disney just raised their prices.

988
03:23:29,000 --> 03:23:33,000
Do you think they didn't sell out for the annual passes?

989
03:23:33,000 --> 03:23:36,000
Yeah. Well, it it happens.

990
03:23:36,000 --> 03:23:40,000
And yes, my family does go once in a while to Disney.

991
03:23:40,000 --> 03:23:52,000
And they don't understand what's behind the services as far as police and fire or even being public works around the city or even around the resort area.

992
03:23:52,000 --> 03:23:59,000
But it's it would be nice to just get this for the residents can decide.

993
03:23:59,000 --> 03:24:02,000
And that's all I ask. Thank you.

994
03:24:02,000 --> 03:24:05,000
All right. Next three speakers.

995
03:24:05,000 --> 03:24:16,000
Can I please Amanda Walsh and Mark Richard Daniels.

996
03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:18,000
Hello, everyone.

997
03:24:18,000 --> 03:24:22,000
Given on to the guy, those on the council of the serving the God of the people.

998
03:24:22,000 --> 03:24:25,000
Not to the God of the special interest.

999
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:26,000
Okay.

1000
03:24:26,000 --> 03:24:29,000
See the add-hime six billion dollars in debt.

1001
03:24:29,000 --> 03:24:31,000
Billion.

1002
03:24:31,000 --> 03:24:33,000
Does it sound like we went in?

1003
03:24:33,000 --> 03:24:34,000
Just what?

1004
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:36,000
Does he land as winning?

1005
03:24:36,000 --> 03:24:37,000
Angels winning?

1006
03:24:37,000 --> 03:24:40,000
Angels went ahead and had a 10 year lease.

1007
03:24:40,000 --> 03:24:41,000
And what got 2 billion.

1008
03:24:41,000 --> 03:24:44,000
Why the residents got 2 million.

1009
03:24:44,000 --> 03:24:46,000
See, we're living in dangerous times.

1010
03:24:46,000 --> 03:24:47,000
Why?

1011
03:24:47,000 --> 03:24:48,000
Because it's agreed.

1012
03:24:48,000 --> 03:24:52,000
The greeted are wealthy because they not only want to be rich, but they want to be powerful.

1013
03:24:52,000 --> 03:24:55,000
They want to rob the working class and the poor.

1014
03:24:55,000 --> 03:24:58,000
The farmers losing generation old farms.

1015
03:24:58,000 --> 03:25:00,000
Snap, being snattered.

1016
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:02,000
Get raised to cut down a medic house.

1017
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:03,000
Every time they cut down a medic house.

1018
03:25:03,000 --> 03:25:05,000
That means people are dying.

1019
03:25:05,000 --> 03:25:07,000
So they don't want people around.

1020
03:25:07,000 --> 03:25:09,000
So let's go ahead and get it right.

1021
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:11,000
We are $6 billion.

1022
03:25:11,000 --> 03:25:14,000
We're $64 million short.

1023
03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:15,000
Why?

1024
03:25:15,000 --> 03:25:20,000
Because we're paying for a pocket structure that takes 40 years for us to pay.

1025
03:25:20,000 --> 03:25:21,000
It costs $1 billion.

1026
03:25:21,000 --> 03:25:23,000
But we're paying $4 billion.

1027
03:25:23,000 --> 03:25:27,000
Why Disneyland collects the revenue and operate it.

1028
03:25:27,000 --> 03:25:30,000
Does that sound like a good S deal for the residents?

1029
03:25:30,000 --> 03:25:32,000
Hell no.

1030
03:25:32,000 --> 03:25:35,000
And every time we come up here and ask for a DMS tax increase.

1031
03:25:35,000 --> 03:25:37,000
Everybody starts showing up for Disneyland.

1032
03:25:37,000 --> 03:25:39,000
Tell them about how they set the great S partner.

1033
03:25:39,000 --> 03:25:41,000
Well, if they would set the great S partner.

1034
03:25:41,000 --> 03:25:43,000
Why we don't only city in Orange County.

1035
03:25:43,000 --> 03:25:46,000
They have to be ran live by the state.

1036
03:25:46,000 --> 03:25:49,000
Equ the company and bail.

1037
03:25:49,000 --> 03:25:53,000
Now, we are getting the shaft through this DMS in the council.

1038
03:25:53,000 --> 03:25:54,000
And it proceeds.

1039
03:25:54,000 --> 03:25:57,000
Every time we go ahead and come up for a tax increase.

1040
03:25:57,000 --> 03:25:58,000
They start coming up.

1041
03:25:58,000 --> 03:25:59,000
Why they can't do it.

1042
03:25:59,000 --> 03:26:01,000
But they raise the prices every day.

1043
03:26:01,000 --> 03:26:02,000
I'm here.

1044
03:26:02,000 --> 03:26:04,000
If they raise it every year, why can't they do it?

1045
03:26:04,000 --> 03:26:07,000
$5 on a pocket ticket?

1046
03:26:07,000 --> 03:26:09,000
$5.

1047
03:26:09,000 --> 03:26:11,000
You think $500?

1048
03:26:11,000 --> 03:26:14,000
When it costs it, go ahead and go in the structures.

1049
03:26:14,000 --> 03:26:17,000
And we first say we shouldn't even be picking all Disneyland on it.

1050
03:26:17,000 --> 03:26:19,000
We should lower it to $10,000.

1051
03:26:19,000 --> 03:26:23,000
So we'll get angels and the dogs, everybody.

1052
03:26:23,000 --> 03:26:25,000
Everybody should be included.

1053
03:26:25,000 --> 03:26:27,000
Because all of them are part of this incident,

1054
03:26:27,000 --> 03:26:31,000
perhaps broke and bankrupt our damn city just about.

1055
03:26:31,000 --> 03:26:34,000
So let's go ahead and keep the where it is.

1056
03:26:34,000 --> 03:26:36,000
Disneyland, they leave it up to that.

1057
03:26:36,000 --> 03:26:38,000
So we're angels.

1058
03:26:38,000 --> 03:26:39,000
Wait a minute.

1059
03:26:39,000 --> 03:26:41,000
Talk about the 2 million.

1060
03:26:41,000 --> 03:26:43,000
Visit at a high.

1061
03:26:43,000 --> 03:26:49,000
This Disney City Chamber of Commerce, always robbing the damn city.

1062
03:26:49,000 --> 03:26:52,000
Then we forget they robbed the city.

1063
03:26:52,000 --> 03:26:53,000
Something to regulate.

1064
03:26:53,000 --> 03:26:57,000
So I remember when Disney raised the promise.

1065
03:26:57,000 --> 03:27:00,000
The price was because they had too many people.

1066
03:27:00,000 --> 03:27:02,000
This was going on.

1067
03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:03,000
Was they thinking about us?

1068
03:27:03,000 --> 03:27:04,000
No.

1069
03:27:04,000 --> 03:27:06,000
I'm telling you like it is.

1070
03:27:06,000 --> 03:27:07,000
12 seconds.

1071
03:27:07,000 --> 03:27:10,000
Disney and the major special interest.

1072
03:27:10,000 --> 03:27:14,000
Have been robbing this residence of anti-facitary.

1073
03:27:14,000 --> 03:27:15,000
And it needs to change.

1074
03:27:15,000 --> 03:27:16,000
Thank you.

1075
03:27:16,000 --> 03:27:17,000
Yes.

1076
03:27:17,000 --> 03:27:19,000
Thank you.

1077
03:27:19,000 --> 03:27:21,000
Amanda Walsh.

1078
03:27:29,000 --> 03:27:30,000
Good evening, Mayor.

1079
03:27:30,000 --> 03:27:32,000
An honorable Anna-Hem city council member.

1080
03:27:32,000 --> 03:27:33,000
My name is Amanda Walsh.

1081
03:27:33,000 --> 03:27:36,000
I am lucky to serve as the vice president of government affairs.

1082
03:27:36,000 --> 03:27:39,000
Miss Col another three or two months.

1083
03:27:39,000 --> 03:27:40,000
The council should notice the Council is leading voices of business and

1084
03:27:40,000 --> 03:27:44,000
they focus on economic development through priorities of housing,

1085
03:27:44,000 --> 03:27:45,000
infrastructure and workforce.

1086
03:27:45,000 --> 03:27:49,000
O.C.B.C. strongly Dev her pose as two imposed measures.

1087
03:27:49,000 --> 03:27:52,000
Anna-Hem's Resort District.

1088
03:27:52,000 --> 03:27:53,000
T Herons terming one horizon water because European shops in Miami.

1089
03:27:53,000 --> 03:27:57,000
Please need a question.

1090
03:27:57,000 --> 03:27:59,000
Floor in stock.

1091
03:27:59,000 --> 03:28:02,000
appa has many podcasts.

1092
03:28:02,000 --> 03:28:04,000
Symbolska Lookous, Whoops.

1093
03:28:04,000 --> 03:28:08,800
these measures out there is going to jeopardize that success.

1094
03:28:08,800 --> 03:28:12,920
Adding new taxes on admissions and parking would not only increase costs for families and

1095
03:28:12,920 --> 03:28:16,720
visitors and a talking point that I have heard tonight that sort of rubs me the wrong way

1096
03:28:16,720 --> 03:28:22,600
is it's only $4.00. It's only $4.00. As a widowed single parent to two young girls,

1097
03:28:22,600 --> 03:28:28,480
I feel fortunate that $4 is it going to make your break possibly taking my family on a vacation

1098
03:28:28,480 --> 03:28:33,080
but for some families it does. For some families it's $1.00. So that should not even be a talking

1099
03:28:33,080 --> 03:28:37,480
point that is considered. I did not speak when you were speaking so I really appreciate the

1100
03:28:37,480 --> 03:28:48,840
respect of the silence when I'm up here. Thank you. I can do my mom. Thank you. We've heard

1101
03:28:48,840 --> 03:28:54,040
cost of living increases correct. So the time when employers are already managing rising

1102
03:28:54,040 --> 03:28:59,760
operational costs, layers of additional taxes make anaheim less competitive compared to

1103
03:28:59,760 --> 03:29:03,920
neighboring destinations. You already heard if they are given opportunity to state a

1104
03:29:03,920 --> 03:29:10,080
neighboring city, they're going to do it. That means fewer visitors. Yes, less spending at

1105
03:29:10,080 --> 03:29:15,520
not only local restaurants and hotels, but possibly fewer working hours for residents to rely on

1106
03:29:15,520 --> 03:29:23,360
these jobs to make ends meet. OCBC's policy priorities are clear. We support a fair, simple tax

1107
03:29:23,360 --> 03:29:29,840
structures. Thank you. That promote growth and jobs. Well, let's call this what that is. This

1108
03:29:29,840 --> 03:29:37,440
is a targeted tax, singling out special industries to fill the gaps. Anaheim has been a long success

1109
03:29:37,440 --> 03:29:42,320
because of the strong partnerships between the city and the business community. These proposals

1110
03:29:42,320 --> 03:29:48,640
move in opposite direction, discouraging investment and putting at risk of the very jobs that make

1111
03:29:48,640 --> 03:29:53,840
Anaheim thrive. We're urging the city council to reject both measures. Thank you for your time.

1112
03:29:53,840 --> 03:29:56,640
And thank you for the respect of the audience. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

1113
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,000
Well, I hope I get the same respect. I came all this way just for anyway. I think the campaign is already started. I can feel the vibes and this is an issue. Yeah, that too. This is an issue that has to be addressed and it has to be addressed by the people that live in this setting.

1114
03:30:29,000 --> 03:30:50,000
The community has to have a hand in on this important issue. And we've waited a long time to address this issue in public. So yes, you should support placing this on the ballot and the I would say the November 2026 election. You'll have a better turnout.

1115
03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:57,000
And also, I'm going to say this. Madam mayor, I support you, but I think you should set out this vote.

1116
03:30:57,000 --> 03:31:09,000
Because I don't think it's in your best interest to get involved in this wrangling because you've already tipped your cap to the opposing view of this.

1117
03:31:09,000 --> 03:31:28,000
And so it's just going to be kind of get all muddy there. So, and also this idea that the people want to stay in other cities and so so, but they come to Disneyland, Disneyland, just celebrated their 70th anniversary for God's sake.

1118
03:31:28,000 --> 03:31:50,000
And they've never looked better than they do now. They, you know, record profits, COVID kind of knocked them off off kill like everything else, but they survived their thriving, they're planning to they're building this other addition.

1119
03:31:50,000 --> 03:32:12,000
Yeah, the convention center should be included in a tax because of the events that go on there. And we were always west of the Mississippi, we were one of the most visited convention destination in the United States. And I think it still is true with all the additions.

1120
03:32:12,000 --> 03:32:32,000
The convention center, I remember when it was just a little flying saucer thing out front, the arena now it's this big massive goes on from mile and a half, yeah, just and I can recall all those things I can remember when Disneyland was five dollars to get in. Yeah, no more.

1121
03:32:32,000 --> 03:32:57,000
So, I think this is a win situation. We should not concern ourselves with the negativity. Let's put it on the ballot. Let's make sure that this is addressed by the people that have so much to gain. This is a necessary 12 seconds.

1122
03:32:57,000 --> 03:33:07,000
We need to have this past and first of all, we need to put it on the ballot. Thank you very much.

1123
03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:14,000
Mayor and City Council that concludes our speakers on agenda items. We have six speakers on general comments and we'll go ahead and move forward.

1124
03:33:14,000 --> 03:33:21,000
The next three speakers for general comments is Arthur Castillo, Brian Kay and Jackie Anderson.

1125
03:33:21,000 --> 03:33:25,000
Arthur Castillo.

1126
03:33:25,000 --> 03:33:35,000
Good evening. I wanted to reiterate that I last time that I came here and spoke about the vendor issues, the produce trucks.

1127
03:33:35,000 --> 03:33:39,000
You got to understand. I have 12 years. It was seven days a week.

1128
03:33:39,000 --> 03:33:50,000
And I had meetings with police, code enforcement at the time. And now again, I apologize to the code enforcement department because they there were the ones that were mostly involved in it.

1129
03:33:50,000 --> 03:33:54,000
And it ceased after 12 years of my time.

1130
03:33:54,000 --> 03:34:10,000
And for reasons that I would like to make a meeting with each one of you and so I can explain it to you what we were going through back in those days and a lot of news articles and a lot of televisions stuff that we had on this issue.

1131
03:34:10,000 --> 03:34:25,000
But the police department also was involved. And it wasn't all the police and it wasn't all the code enforcement. So that's why I would like to tell you before I say the things that I want to not to say words that are kind of derogatory towards departments.

1132
03:34:25,000 --> 03:34:31,000
I'm not attacking any department, attacking bad apples and problems that we had in those times.

1133
03:34:31,000 --> 03:34:43,000
So I just wanted to apologize that sometimes I get out of get confused because I'm not preventing not to tell you everything because it's pretty bad.

1134
03:34:43,000 --> 03:34:47,000
We need to have a talk first. I think we should protocol it.

1135
03:34:47,000 --> 03:35:12,000
Talk first get it. And I want to get your guys opinions which you think about it. And before I come up here and say things. I did this also with the school board because these are things that I feel not to attack. I want to show you that I'm, you know, my etiquette is going to be, you know, forward and straight and honest. And that way I can get your point of views. That's what I'm looking forward by having a one on one with you.

1136
03:35:12,000 --> 03:35:22,000
Again, I try to approach city, you know, city managers and all that and they just ignore everything. So that was one of the problems we had as communication.

1137
03:35:22,000 --> 03:35:33,000
So I, I didn't represent them. I volunteered to represent them, but I don't represent them anymore, but it was something I did for free because it was something I saw it wasn't right. They're part of the community.

1138
03:35:33,000 --> 03:35:50,000
I noticed a, an ordinance went in on them. That wasn't even applying to them because they've been here for a long time. And so I just want to take this personal thing that came that I've learned from it and say that, you know, if there's anything that in development, a check, you know, we changed.

1139
03:35:50,000 --> 03:36:12,000
I say a village park Vista, we negated them in and these people with their businesses that had to come out. I think there's probably going to be more development and probably more vendors probably losing their businesses. But the sad part is without saying that it were bad word is they lost a lot of people lost their business had a seller business and leave and there was lawsuits on there that they won. I went to court hearings.

1140
03:36:12,000 --> 03:36:30,000
This city actually started implementing other cities to go along with it. I've been in the court rooms with the judges said this is a legal immoral. Don't bring this into my chamber again and, you know, and this went on for 12 years, but it was going on before and these are also small business.

1141
03:36:31,000 --> 03:36:42,000
Mom and pop stores also. So I got involved just to volunteer to be in there. So I just want to be able to explain it to you. Sorry, your time is up. So I just think, you know, I'll be back.

1142
03:36:43,000 --> 03:36:45,000
Our next speaker. Right. Okay.

1143
03:37:01,000 --> 03:37:03,000
Can you give those to them now? Please.

1144
03:37:10,000 --> 03:37:12,000
Happy day.

1145
03:37:12,000 --> 03:37:18,000
I know I challenge and I'm city council. I know I challenge you American.

1146
03:37:19,000 --> 03:37:27,000
But when you do something good, you know, I'm willing to come down and compliment. I kind of feel good about that.

1147
03:37:27,000 --> 03:37:31,000
Recently in Susanna's working on that right now.

1148
03:37:32,000 --> 03:37:37,000
The Facebook posts for the way Anna Highmitch approaches coyotes has changed.

1149
03:37:38,000 --> 03:37:41,000
So rather than saying coyotes are wild animals.

1150
03:37:42,000 --> 03:37:49,000
Give us the proper the same guidelines that pretty much all other Orange County cities have.

1151
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:54,000
Be respectful of the coyote on attack them. Don't kick them. Don't feed them.

1152
03:37:55,000 --> 03:38:08,000
And from my understand, you know, I'll share with you a friend of mine had a coyote dead in their backyard on Pioneer Street neighbor of S. N.

1153
03:38:09,000 --> 03:38:19,000
And I went by one day and there's a dove flooding around in front of the coyote dead. There's no more coyote mother and her pops.

1154
03:38:20,000 --> 03:38:23,000
And you know that really kind of spoke to me.

1155
03:38:25,000 --> 03:38:36,000
After everybody realized that the coyotes were gone. My friend hired me to cut the tree down and fill the den and clean up the area.

1156
03:38:37,000 --> 03:38:42,000
I'm not sure why, but the next day I drove down Pioneer. There's about 13 homes on that street.

1157
03:38:43,000 --> 03:38:54,000
There was over 25 coyotes shot on the center of the driveways of the center of the sidewalks.

1158
03:38:55,000 --> 03:39:03,000
I realize that coyotes don't have much of a voice, so I'm I'm kind of speaking for them over 20 25 adult coyotes.

1159
03:39:04,000 --> 03:39:10,000
Protested that coyote mother and her pops as missing.

1160
03:39:11,000 --> 03:39:19,000
And that that's a message that I don't think you've you've taken on, but I really want to appreciate the fact that you've changed your approach.

1161
03:39:20,000 --> 03:39:28,000
And that that coyote mother her loss and her pops loss changed the way the city approaches that that issue.

1162
03:39:29,000 --> 03:39:34,000
And so it kind of gives me some eternal hope that you're growing and you're changing your doing things better.

1163
03:39:35,000 --> 03:39:42,000
You know I realize I'm just here me, but you know I have a coyote mother and she sees me as her coyote pup.

1164
03:39:43,000 --> 03:39:54,000
You know I have a coyote wife and I want to make a nice friendly healthy safe coyote den for my wife so that you know a speaker made a joke about you all being.

1165
03:39:54,000 --> 03:40:06,000
You know honey honey women or you know I'm not sure the term, but you had a cute and everybody laughed, but you know every woman wants to have a safe den to you know.

1166
03:40:07,000 --> 03:40:20,000
To live in and provide a family so when I stand here, I hope that you'll take the same lesson to learn with the coyotes and address that to the other speakers and to myself my own family.

1167
03:40:20,000 --> 03:40:23,000
I don't want my family to live on the one to be afraid.

1168
03:40:24,000 --> 03:40:26,000
Any more please thank you.

1169
03:40:27,000 --> 03:40:28,000
Happy day.

1170
03:40:28,000 --> 03:40:29,000
Our next speaker.

1171
03:40:36,000 --> 03:40:37,000
Jackie Anderson.

1172
03:40:39,000 --> 03:40:41,000
We'll have our next speaker come forward.

1173
03:40:41,000 --> 03:40:50,000
Let's put me out. I apologize.

1174
03:40:51,000 --> 03:40:53,000
Quality to talk to you. Good afternoon.

1175
03:40:54,000 --> 03:40:57,000
You're welcome.

1176
03:40:58,000 --> 03:40:59,000
I was watching.

1177
03:41:00,000 --> 03:41:03,000
Thank you for being there for Indigenous people say means a lot to us.

1178
03:41:04,000 --> 03:41:08,000
It shows like respect and respect is everything and that's how you'll be respected.

1179
03:41:08,000 --> 03:41:12,000
And it was nice seeing you at the at the nature center.

1180
03:41:13,000 --> 03:41:17,000
It was a surprise. It was nice to see that with other tangles and other tribes,

1181
03:41:18,000 --> 03:41:20,000
Michikastic dancers and it means a lot to us as well and compost.

1182
03:41:21,000 --> 03:41:22,000
Good to see you at the animals.

1183
03:41:23,000 --> 03:41:25,000
It was good that you support you know and it's important.

1184
03:41:26,000 --> 03:41:36,000
It's all healing you know and the animals more does isn't Indigenous people's thing from the Chicano culture to the Michika or Mexican Indigenous people's throughout actually the Americas.

1185
03:41:37,000 --> 03:41:39,000
Before the settler calling this borders.

1186
03:41:40,000 --> 03:41:49,000
Last thing is I want to take the time to think whoever's changing the landscape by the OC vibe I really appreciate how they're taking away the grass.

1187
03:41:50,000 --> 03:41:59,000
There's not much water and there's now more of the native desert plants or more of the agave my gay plants that's a very important because there is no water and I know the water goes all the way connect to.

1188
03:41:59,000 --> 03:42:06,000
It's all connected to the Sanana River where the OC vibe will be at.

1189
03:42:07,000 --> 03:42:11,000
I can't wait to see the Native American mural of the tongue was that's going to be nice but.

1190
03:42:12,000 --> 03:42:17,000
But that water connects we're told by one of our or I don't want to say chief but one of our flat one is.

1191
03:42:18,000 --> 03:42:23,000
That the dance were built by the settler calling us to control us and control the fish.

1192
03:42:23,000 --> 03:42:30,000
And hopefully that doesn't affect us somehow with what's going to happen in the future and I just want to sing a song a prayer song.

1193
03:42:31,000 --> 03:42:40,000
We just came from a ceremony on the beach and this is a dolphin song and that everything comes out good in these hard times and for all colors and all beliefs.

1194
03:42:41,000 --> 03:42:44,000
And so in spirit of thought putina a native.

1195
03:42:45,000 --> 03:42:48,000
Gabi Lanyor Keestanga woman a dolphin song.

1196
03:43:18,000 --> 03:43:40,000
I know time with education and respect and having that tribal engagement will decolonize people's hearts and minds not matter what color of your skin or race or ethnicity where we come from.

1197
03:43:40,000 --> 03:43:50,000
We're all equal and creator's eyes we call it chinic chinic or yokoyani in this territory and I know with time we will see the name of the school of the colonists come down to home of the Jaguars.

1198
03:43:51,000 --> 03:43:53,000
I'll be good for a student psychologically speaking.

1199
03:43:54,000 --> 03:43:56,000
High self-esteem that will create that to our community.

1200
03:43:57,000 --> 03:44:00,000
Thank you so much and we do support with Natalie Rebecca was pushing for thank you.

1201
03:44:01,000 --> 03:44:04,000
Thank you your time is up and we have our next speaker step forward please.

1202
03:44:05,000 --> 03:44:08,000
And your dog is so good.

1203
03:44:09,000 --> 03:44:11,000
It's a cutie pie.

1204
03:44:12,000 --> 03:44:17,000
Good evening mayor council members and I'm police department leadership and members of the public.

1205
03:44:18,000 --> 03:44:29,000
My name is Stephen Osivello and I'm here to speak as someone who was harmed not by criminal not by stranger but by federal agent operating in our city while I don't hang police officers stood by and did nothing.

1206
03:44:30,000 --> 03:44:38,000
On October 3rd 2020 five I was struck twice by federal agent I was assaulted and I IPD officers were present and witnessed this violence with their own eyes.

1207
03:44:39,000 --> 03:44:41,000
I screamed that I wanted to press charges.

1208
03:44:42,000 --> 03:44:46,000
I made it clear that I was not safe and that a crime had been committed against me in front of them.

1209
03:44:47,000 --> 03:44:54,000
And still no one in a green no one reported it no one stopped the assault and what kind of system allows this to happen.

1210
03:44:54,000 --> 03:45:00,000
And I'm police department I'm asking directly when you see a federal agent strike is.

1211
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:24,000
What are you trying to do? What are you authorized to do? And why don't you do it? These are not rhetorical questions. I'm demanding answers. I'm demanding actions. I'm not just a breakdown. This is not just a breakdown in protocol. This is a failure of duty, a failure of ethics, and a failure of basic human decency.

1212
03:45:24,000 --> 03:45:34,000
And it's part of a larger pattern that we cannot ignore any longer. I'm calling on this console and on the leadership of Anaheim PD to take the following actions.

1213
03:45:34,000 --> 03:45:44,000
Number one, publicly released all body warning patrol vehicle camera footage from the incident on October 3, 2025. The public has arrived to see what happened.

1214
03:45:44,000 --> 03:45:51,000
Honestly, full investigation by both the city of Anaheim and the state of California into the actions of a federal agent who struck me.

1215
03:45:51,000 --> 03:45:55,000
And the Anaheim officers who allowed this to happen without intervention.

1216
03:45:55,000 --> 03:46:03,000
This closed, number three, this closed, the Anaheim police department current policies and agreement with federal agencies, including ICE.

1217
03:46:03,000 --> 03:46:09,000
If there is a memoriam of understanding, the public deserves to know what it says.

1218
03:46:09,000 --> 03:46:16,000
Because let me be clear, if Anaheim PD is operating with federal agents who are using force without accountability.

1219
03:46:16,000 --> 03:46:22,000
And if Anaheim officers are refusing to act when civilians are assaulted in their presence.

1220
03:46:22,000 --> 03:46:26,000
That's not just dangerous. That's unconstitutional.

1221
03:46:26,000 --> 03:46:31,000
This isn't only about what happened to me. This is what could happen to anyone.

1222
03:46:31,000 --> 03:46:40,000
What happened when what happens when a mother is pulled over with her child and the backseat and assaulted by a federal agent and no local officer steps in.

1223
03:46:40,000 --> 03:46:50,000
What happens when a young person, an immigrant or a protester is attacked and their rights are ignored because it's not it's not the local department's jurisdiction.

1224
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:59,000
If their badge gives them the authority to carry a weapon and a force a law, then it also gives you responsibility to protect the public that doesn't go away when the federal agents are involved.

1225
03:46:59,000 --> 03:47:09,000
And if Anaheim PD is empowered or trained to intervene when federal agents can make violence and that's something that that's something that must be changed immediately.

1226
03:47:09,000 --> 03:47:16,000
Council members, you were elected to protect this community, not to protect bad actors.

1227
03:47:16,000 --> 03:47:24,000
Not to protect outdated policies and certainly not to protect not to protect silence.

1228
03:47:24,000 --> 03:47:40,000
I am not afraid. You may ignore me tonight, but you will not sign this me. I don't care. I'm demanding an investigation. I'm demanding answers and I will not be kept.

1229
03:47:41,000 --> 03:47:56,000
Our next speaker, Mark Herbert.

1230
03:47:56,000 --> 03:48:01,000
Mark, Mark, Mark Herbert, AnaheimBreece.com.

1231
03:48:01,000 --> 03:48:08,000
We live in a company town. There's two doors to City Hall, a private door and a public door.

1232
03:48:08,000 --> 03:48:13,000
And I'd like to look at the public door first because that's what we're in front of.

1233
03:48:13,000 --> 03:48:31,000
And I remember, girly blunquist was here on September 23rd, 25 at a council meeting asking for housing help. You can go to that meeting at the one hour 59 minute and 25 second mark and hear her needs.

1234
03:48:31,000 --> 03:48:35,000
I'm still waiting to hear from the city.

1235
03:48:35,000 --> 03:48:47,000
And I'm afraid she's not alone because the housing shortage in Anaheim of affordable units is 9100 units according to the state housing element.

1236
03:48:47,000 --> 03:48:53,000
It's almost doubled since over the last 10 to 15 years.

1237
03:48:53,000 --> 03:49:00,000
And unfortunately, Anaheim's not focused on it, Santa Ana has and they don't have them shortage.

1238
03:49:00,000 --> 03:49:05,000
It's a shame she doesn't have access misplunquist to the private door.

1239
03:49:05,000 --> 03:49:16,000
Because behind the private door, there's a fact track, a fast track and funds available to speed along the private interest of the big three in Anaheim.

1240
03:49:16,000 --> 03:49:22,000
That's Disney, the OC vibe and the angels.

1241
03:49:23,000 --> 03:49:32,000
And there's a, along with the fast track, there's a minimum of public engagement and a minimum of public oversight.

1242
03:49:32,000 --> 03:49:37,000
Unfortunately, there was a cost to the public when those two are lacking.

1243
03:49:37,000 --> 03:49:43,000
In 1998, there was the bond Anaheim took up for $510 million.

1244
03:49:43,000 --> 03:49:47,000
They have two years left to pay on it with interest.

1245
03:49:47,000 --> 03:49:50,000
It will come to one billion dollars.

1246
03:49:51,000 --> 03:49:58,000
Of that 510 million 100 million went to build the Disney parking structure we all enjoy today.

1247
03:49:58,000 --> 03:50:11,000
That's 10,000 spaces at 50 dollars a space, 40 dollars a space and say 300 days a year since it isn't sold out all the time.

1248
03:50:11,000 --> 03:50:14,000
That's 120 million dollars a year.

1249
03:50:14,000 --> 03:50:18,000
I don't see them keep in their prices down.

1250
03:50:19,000 --> 03:50:23,000
But this, this culture, this Anaheim way continues today.

1251
03:50:23,000 --> 03:50:30,000
The, the big three are now buying the surplus of the eighted transportation committee.

1252
03:50:30,000 --> 03:50:37,000
Twenty nine million to build pedestrian bridges leading from Disney's new parking structure to their front entrance.

1253
03:50:37,000 --> 03:50:43,000
The OC vibe is looking from money for their 200 million dollar project to build a park.

1254
03:50:43,000 --> 03:50:46,000
The OC Riverwalk fronting property.

1255
03:50:47,000 --> 03:50:52,000
So as you can see, the culture is deeply entrenched.

1256
03:50:52,000 --> 03:50:58,000
And I'm looking for a little leadership here.

1257
03:50:58,000 --> 03:51:02,000
Mayor and city council, that concludes our in-person speakers.

1258
03:51:02,000 --> 03:51:05,000
Noting for the record, we did receive electronic comments.

1259
03:51:05,000 --> 03:51:09,000
One was related to item number 25, one item number 26.

1260
03:51:09,000 --> 03:51:13,000
Six were related to item 27 and six were general comments.

1261
03:51:13,000 --> 03:51:21,000
Just a bit of city council as well as posted on the city's website and can be found at anaheim.net for its slash public comment.

1262
03:51:21,000 --> 03:51:24,000
Thank you very much. We're now going to close public comment.

1263
03:51:24,000 --> 03:51:27,000
Portion of this meeting and move on to council communications.

1264
03:51:27,000 --> 03:51:33,000
If any council members have items to share, please ring in now starting with council member Kurtz.

1265
03:51:33,000 --> 03:51:35,000
And then council member Maz.

1266
03:51:35,000 --> 03:51:38,000
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1267
03:51:38,000 --> 03:51:42,000
Just very quickly I want to give some thanks to.

1268
03:51:43,000 --> 03:51:47,000
The Anaheim fall festival. Many of us were there and enjoyed it.

1269
03:51:47,000 --> 03:51:53,000
The festival took place on center greens and a fabulous parade with.

1270
03:51:53,000 --> 03:51:58,000
I'm assuming thousands of folks looking at the parade along the streets.

1271
03:51:58,000 --> 03:52:05,000
What a thank our city staff that works so hard to make sure that the route was safe.

1272
03:52:05,000 --> 03:52:09,000
That the center greens entertainment went on.

1273
03:52:09,000 --> 03:52:17,000
I also want to thank the fall festival committee and its volunteers.

1274
03:52:17,000 --> 03:52:23,000
These people do the work for absolutely no pay all volunteer.

1275
03:52:23,000 --> 03:52:26,000
They built the fall festival floats.

1276
03:52:26,000 --> 03:52:29,000
They organized volunteers.

1277
03:52:29,000 --> 03:52:32,000
They brought inventors and food.

1278
03:52:32,000 --> 03:52:36,000
And again, all volunteers.

1279
03:52:37,000 --> 03:52:41,000
It's not as we don't realize how hard these folks work, but I know for building the floats.

1280
03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:48,000
They start in March and work every Sunday to the parade to make sure that the floats are ready to go.

1281
03:52:48,000 --> 03:52:55,000
So I want to thank each and every volunteer and thank our city staff at participated.

1282
03:52:55,000 --> 03:53:00,000
And it was a great event for our city.

1283
03:53:00,000 --> 03:53:03,000
Next slide please.

1284
03:53:03,000 --> 03:53:10,000
So this council voted to establish a housing trust.

1285
03:53:10,000 --> 03:53:17,000
And then we voted to, and how that money would be divided.

1286
03:53:17,000 --> 03:53:22,000
One of the buckets is the first time home buyer program.

1287
03:53:22,000 --> 03:53:29,000
And our housing department is now putting together a series of workshops.

1288
03:53:29,000 --> 03:53:34,000
To talk to folks about how they can participate in the program.

1289
03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:40,000
I really want to give a shout out to our housing department, Grace Aptcher and her team.

1290
03:53:40,000 --> 03:53:44,000
They put on a workshop this last Saturday.

1291
03:53:44,000 --> 03:53:53,000
Very well attended and realtors, mortgage lenders explaining how they're going to work with our own city program.

1292
03:53:53,000 --> 03:54:01,000
And many folks very excited, taking notes, taking information and how they can participate.

1293
03:54:01,000 --> 03:54:07,000
My understanding this program is going to open up for application mid next month.

1294
03:54:07,000 --> 03:54:16,000
Be very excited to see the first few residents in Anaheim here be able to buy their own home.

1295
03:54:16,000 --> 03:54:20,000
Be actual homeowners instead of renters in Anaheim.

1296
03:54:20,000 --> 03:54:23,000
So I thank you, Grace, and your team.

1297
03:54:23,000 --> 03:54:26,000
You have phenomenal job that day.

1298
03:54:26,000 --> 03:54:30,000
And very proud, very proud of the work this council has done.

1299
03:54:30,000 --> 03:54:35,000
And that staff has done particular for making this possible.

1300
03:54:35,000 --> 03:54:38,000
Thank you.

1301
03:54:39,000 --> 03:54:51,000
Thank you Mayor, I have four slides to share.

1302
03:54:51,000 --> 03:55:00,000
Starting with last week's trip to the Hoover Dam and Colorado River Aquaduct with the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California.

1303
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:06,000
I had the opportunity to visit the dam and tour the aquaduct as part of an outreach visit.

1304
03:55:06,000 --> 03:55:18,000
It provided valuable insight into how much planning and engineering and coordination go into ensuring a safe and reliable water supply for our Anaheim residents and businesses.

1305
03:55:18,000 --> 03:55:29,000
Here in Anaheim our own public utilities department plays a vital role in that effort in sharing our local water continues to meet some of the highest quality and safety standards in the nation.

1306
03:55:29,000 --> 03:55:36,000
Anaheim's water is carefully treated, continuously tested, and reliably delivered to homes and businesses every day.

1307
03:55:36,000 --> 03:55:44,000
As we continue to experience more unpredictable climate patterns, it's more important than ever that we all use water wisely.

1308
03:55:44,000 --> 03:55:51,000
Anaheim public utilities offers several programs and rebates to help residents and businesses save water,

1309
03:55:51,000 --> 03:55:59,000
whether it's leak detection or smart irrigation controls to turf replacement and more.

1310
03:55:59,000 --> 03:56:06,000
I encourage people to visit Anaheim.net slash save water or be water wise for more information.

1311
03:56:06,000 --> 03:56:16,000
And a big thank you to the Metropolitan Water District and Director Steve Fessel for the invitation to attend.

1312
03:56:16,000 --> 03:56:19,000
Next slide please.

1313
03:56:19,000 --> 03:56:25,000
On Saturday morning, I have the opportunity to attend strides for disability.

1314
03:56:25,000 --> 03:56:30,000
This event was hosted by Easter Seals of Southern California at Angel Stadium.

1315
03:56:30,000 --> 03:56:45,000
This annual event brings together families, friends and organizations to celebrate disability pride and inclusion while raising awareness and support for the important services that Easter Seals provides in our city and region.

1316
03:56:45,000 --> 03:56:53,000
It was great to see the role that's performed and to feel the energy from Wildwing and DJ Joe Maestro.

1317
03:56:53,000 --> 03:56:57,000
They really set a positive energy in tone for the morning.

1318
03:56:57,000 --> 03:57:03,000
I also want to recognize our first responders who are there to ensure everyone could enjoy the event safely.

1319
03:57:03,000 --> 03:57:06,000
Thank you for always showing up for our community.

1320
03:57:06,000 --> 03:57:13,000
And Aacenseer, thank you to Easter Seals and Southern California for your ongoing work supporting Anaheim families here in Anaheim.

1321
03:57:13,000 --> 03:57:20,000
From early childhood programs to autism services and employment opportunities for adults with disabilities.

1322
03:57:20,000 --> 03:57:26,000
For anybody wanting to learn more, please visit socal.easterseals.com.

1323
03:57:26,000 --> 03:57:29,000
Next slide please.

1324
03:57:29,000 --> 03:57:32,000
Later that morning, I went over to Edison Park.

1325
03:57:32,000 --> 03:57:40,000
Edison Park got a little extra care from Kaiser Permanente employees who joined our city staff for a cleanup.

1326
03:57:40,000 --> 03:57:48,000
Some volunteers came from across Southern California and spent their morning help making this park look it's best.

1327
03:57:48,000 --> 03:57:53,000
While we were there, there was a group of ballet folklorical dancers practicing.

1328
03:57:53,000 --> 03:58:00,000
And it was a really perfect snapshot of Anaheim families and culture coming together in our public spaces.

1329
03:58:00,000 --> 03:58:07,000
Thank you to the volunteers again and thank you to our city staff for helping identify a park that could use a little extra attention.

1330
03:58:07,000 --> 03:58:14,000
I know my friend Sandra and the moms from Edison Elementary will be enjoying it in the weeks to come.

1331
03:58:14,000 --> 03:58:22,000
And my last slide is from this past Sunday's Aacorn Festival at the Oak Canyon Nature Center.

1332
03:58:22,000 --> 03:58:24,000
It began.

1333
03:58:24,000 --> 03:58:37,000
It had dances, crafts, vendors and food provided by a local cater and district five resident Ryan who operates pueblo smoke and grill.

1334
03:58:37,000 --> 03:58:41,000
I specifically want to acknowledge some staff members.

1335
03:58:41,000 --> 03:58:49,000
Anaheim Sporn lives Hernandez and Nikki Sandeski for putting on this event year after year.

1336
03:58:49,000 --> 03:58:50,000
It keeps getting better.

1337
03:58:50,000 --> 03:58:56,000
I've attended just out of personal interest over the years and I was proud to be a sponsor this year.

1338
03:58:56,000 --> 03:59:01,000
And this event is more about is more than just music and having fun.

1339
03:59:01,000 --> 03:59:04,000
It really creates a sense of place for people.

1340
03:59:04,000 --> 03:59:11,000
There was a woman walking in the trails while I was there and she happened to come across the event she didn't know it was taking place.

1341
03:59:11,000 --> 03:59:16,000
She is of native descent and she doesn't know anything about her family history.

1342
03:59:16,000 --> 03:59:24,000
While she was there she was able to connect with somebody who could point her towards the right direction and that small interaction meant the world to her.

1343
03:59:24,000 --> 03:59:33,000
So thank you again to our staff for making it happen and cultivating a trusting relationship with our local tribes.

1344
03:59:34,000 --> 03:59:45,000
And then last I don't have a slide but I also want to echo the thanks to the fall festival volunteers and all of the staff who worked Friday Saturday and Sunday to make all of the festivities happen.

1345
03:59:45,000 --> 03:59:46,000
It means a lot.

1346
03:59:46,000 --> 03:59:53,000
I'm a really proud of the artistry that we have here in Anaheim and it's showcased an events like that we have this weekend.

1347
03:59:53,000 --> 03:59:54,000
So thank you.

1348
03:59:54,000 --> 04:00:00,000
Last thing I don't have a slide for but I want to invite everybody on November 15th.

1349
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:06,280
To South Junior High. We're going to have an event called Run for Sharks, and it's all about raising awareness

1350
04:00:06,280 --> 04:00:13,520
for our ocean and bringing ocean awareness to Anaheim kids. So I'm excited to be a sponsor and everyone

1351
04:00:13,520 --> 04:00:18,640
is invited to come and learn more about the ocean and the benefits it has for Anaheim families.

1352
04:00:18,640 --> 04:00:25,280
Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Layon and then Councilmember Rubikalva?

1353
04:00:26,200 --> 04:00:34,280
Thank you, Madam Mayor. When I think everybody that came on spoke today, I know that there were some concerns

1354
04:00:34,280 --> 04:00:41,280
that have been brought up in one of, to that we do have a responsibility to take any and all concerns seriously.

1355
04:00:41,280 --> 04:00:50,280
And that Anaheim residents deserve full confidence that taxpayer dollars are being managed responsibly and I believe Mr. City Manager will have a little bit more information for us.

1356
04:00:50,280 --> 04:00:58,280
And I appreciate the responsibility that we have to be as transparent as possible.

1357
04:00:58,280 --> 04:01:04,280
I do want to have a number of events to share with the community.

1358
04:01:04,280 --> 04:01:11,280
I was out at the Lawyer Band Review this Saturday. As I've said before, I'm a big band geek.

1359
04:01:11,280 --> 04:01:16,280
So it was always exciting to support our local high school bands at this year's Lawyer Band Review,

1360
04:01:16,280 --> 04:01:20,280
including my alma mater and other talented students from across the region.

1361
04:01:20,280 --> 04:01:29,280
It is a great opportunity to showcase and highlight the city of Anaheim and welcome students and parents from across the region here to our city.

1362
04:01:29,280 --> 04:01:35,280
So I do want to give a big thank you to the Anaheim Police Department for keeping everybody safe throughout the event,

1363
04:01:35,280 --> 04:01:40,280
as well as our Anaheim utility team for their additional support of our students.

1364
04:01:41,280 --> 04:01:44,280
I was proud to march alongside the boys and girls club of Anaheim,

1365
04:01:44,280 --> 04:01:48,280
Savannah High School parents and some district 2 residents in the Anaheim Halloween parade.

1366
04:01:48,280 --> 04:01:51,280
I will echo my colleagues in saying,

1367
04:01:51,280 --> 04:02:01,280
Special thank you to all the organizers, to all the volunteers, all the city staff, all the families who have made this Anaheim tradition a huge success.

1368
04:02:01,280 --> 04:02:06,280
Another shout out to our Anaheim Fire and Rescue team for stopping by one of our district 2 neighborhoods,

1369
04:02:06,280 --> 04:02:11,280
really is inspiring to see them out there interacting with the community, building relationships,

1370
04:02:11,280 --> 04:02:14,280
and even inspiring the next generation of first responders.

1371
04:02:14,280 --> 04:02:17,280
So thank you to the entire team that helped organize that.

1372
04:02:17,280 --> 04:02:20,280
I want to give congratulations to Chef Bruno Cerrado.

1373
04:02:20,280 --> 04:02:27,280
I joined the Katarina Club to celebrate their 20th anniversary and millions and millions of balls of pasta.

1374
04:02:27,280 --> 04:02:33,280
There were continues to make a real difference across Anaheim and I'm very proud to stand alongside them.

1375
04:02:33,280 --> 04:02:40,280
And again, I want to congratulate Chef Bruno and the entire team that helps with that.

1376
04:02:40,280 --> 04:02:49,280
Also, as my colleague mentioned, I do want to give a shout out to our housing community development team for the workshop that they held this Saturday at the Berkers Community Center.

1377
04:02:49,280 --> 04:02:56,280
Really an important step in helping Anaheim families achieve home ownership and build a generational stability right here in our city.

1378
04:02:56,280 --> 04:02:59,280
So thank you to them and everybody that attended.

1379
04:02:59,280 --> 04:03:06,280
I believe the next one is November 1st and so you can look up the additional information on our city website.

1380
04:03:06,280 --> 04:03:14,280
We also held our first district to open house, bringing together the residents city departments to talk about neighborhood priorities.

1381
04:03:14,280 --> 04:03:18,280
We can continue to improve services as well as address issues in the neighborhood.

1382
04:03:18,280 --> 04:03:20,280
I want to thank Magnolia High School.

1383
04:03:20,280 --> 04:03:28,280
I am a model for opening up their new cybersecurity building to host us at this event and for all the residents that came out to speak with us.

1384
04:03:28,280 --> 04:03:35,280
Two more things, big thank you to Jimmy and many from Anaheim Public Utilities for stepping up to help one of our district two seniors.

1385
04:03:35,280 --> 04:03:38,280
Replaced their dusted on lights.

1386
04:03:38,280 --> 04:03:44,280
It is a small fix but it makes a huge difference in safety and quality of life, especially for that resident and their neighbors.

1387
04:03:44,280 --> 04:03:47,280
So really great example of community care and actions.

1388
04:03:47,280 --> 04:03:50,280
So a big shout out to them and our utilities team.

1389
04:03:50,280 --> 04:03:54,280
And finally, I'll end on a positive note.

1390
04:03:54,280 --> 04:03:59,280
We are inviting the community to our third annual trunk or treat.

1391
04:03:59,280 --> 04:04:11,280
We're teaming up with the Anaheim Elementary School district and a number of different car clubs including that Anaheim Public Utilities and Public Works as well.

1392
04:04:11,280 --> 04:04:18,280
Really a fun family friendly evening featuring decorated trunk, scaffold prizes, a lot of candy, plenty of Halloween spirits.

1393
04:04:18,280 --> 04:04:23,280
So if you're looking for a safe free community event, please come out.

1394
04:04:23,280 --> 04:04:27,280
Again, that's this Thursday from 6 to 8 p.m. at Key Elementary.

1395
04:04:27,280 --> 04:04:30,280
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1396
04:04:30,280 --> 04:04:32,280
Thank you, Mayor.

1397
04:04:32,280 --> 04:04:35,280
I actually don't have any slides tonight.

1398
04:04:35,280 --> 04:04:38,280
I decided that I would just first start off with.

1399
04:04:38,280 --> 04:04:47,280
As many of you know, I have an fourth generation Anaheim resident and I want to thank everybody who came out tonight to not only express their opposition,

1400
04:04:47,280 --> 04:04:53,280
but also their support for tourism tax and a parking assessment here in the city of Anaheim.

1401
04:04:53,280 --> 04:05:03,280
I want to just make sure everybody is aware that I am a big supporter of labor of all unions, including unite here local 11, as well as all of our trades,

1402
04:05:03,280 --> 04:05:08,280
who depend on work from Disneyland and other areas of our city.

1403
04:05:08,280 --> 04:05:18,280
My intention with this tax is not to hurt business or to hurt anybody within the trades because I love the work that you're getting.

1404
04:05:18,280 --> 04:05:29,280
As a matter of fact, I will share more during our presentation, but I sat on this dias and approve the Disney Forward Project, which will generate a tremendous amount of work for our residents.

1405
04:05:29,280 --> 04:05:37,280
I also just want to mention that we did also champion the community workforce agreement that we have here in the city of Anaheim,

1406
04:05:37,280 --> 04:05:46,280
eliminated the project list that we had limiting work for labor contractors and it actually created a $700,000 threshold.

1407
04:05:46,280 --> 04:06:00,280
So with the money that we are hoping to, I'm hoping to have this robust conversation with my colleagues, this will actually generate more jobs within the city that are not limited to just some of our private sector businesses.

1408
04:06:00,280 --> 04:06:16,280
I also just want to mention, I know that many of you think that maybe this is something that would hurt our local economy, but I just want to mention that our businesses have increased their admission taxes by 88% over the last 10 years.

1409
04:06:16,280 --> 04:06:21,280
And that has not hindered nor has it had a negative impact on our local economy.

1410
04:06:21,280 --> 04:06:35,280
This will only help all ships rise together because, like I mentioned as a fourth generation Anaheim resident, I was elected by the people of Anaheim to not only ensure that we're properly funding our local city budget.

1411
04:06:35,280 --> 04:06:47,280
But that we're also creating safe neighborhoods and quality of life, addressing all the quality of life issues here in our city that are created by just the impact that our tourism economy has created.

1412
04:06:47,280 --> 04:06:58,280
When I was growing up, there was only one hotel, which was Disneyland hotel, along with a parking lot and dancing waters was the big attraction in that area.

1413
04:06:58,280 --> 04:07:12,280
It was not even considered the resort district. My grandmother worked at a hotel in that area and as the people of Anaheim, what we've done is allowed a Disney to continue to thrive in our local community.

1414
04:07:12,280 --> 04:07:18,280
And grow not only to generate the most jobs, not only in Anaheim, but across the county and the state.

1415
04:07:18,280 --> 04:07:26,280
And I just think it's time that we also consider an opportunity for our residents to benefit from that thriving economy as well.

1416
04:07:26,280 --> 04:07:34,280
And I know that many of the commenters here are members or funded directly through Disney, OCBC, my former employer.

1417
04:07:34,280 --> 04:07:49,280
I know that they also are members of the Orange County Business Council and I completely respect the job that you have to do to come down here and make sure that you're highlighting the benefits that they do on the economic development front, which I am an economic development expert.

1418
04:07:49,280 --> 04:07:55,280
And I understand how it works, it's called attracting and retaining not only businesses, but jobs.

1419
04:07:55,280 --> 04:08:12,280
So with that, I just want to say, I hope that we can all have a very robust conversation about the benefits that this tourism tax could have on the residents of Anaheim and the employees who serve the city that we all call home, including our Disney.

1420
04:08:12,280 --> 04:08:29,280
But I also want to mention this is not a, I know everybody came here and talked specifically about Disney, this is not just about Disney, this is about every large business that is 20,000 or more within our city that utilizes our infrastructure and has an impact on our quality of life in the city.

1421
04:08:29,280 --> 04:08:32,280
With that said, I conclude my council comments.

1422
04:08:32,280 --> 04:08:37,280
Thank you, council member Bayless.

1423
04:08:37,280 --> 04:08:38,280
Thank you.

1424
04:08:38,280 --> 04:08:45,280
I try hard not to duplicate stuff that's already come up, but I really got to give a hats off to the fall festival as well.

1425
04:08:45,280 --> 04:08:51,280
There was a ton of residents going down that street out there and I know everybody that came out.

1426
04:08:51,280 --> 04:09:00,280
Not only Saturday but also what Friday night had a fantastic time and, you know, can't say enough about it, so thank you very much.

1427
04:09:00,280 --> 04:09:07,280
In addition, and please I have, I have practiced this for the last two days now.

1428
04:09:07,280 --> 04:09:18,280
Loose, novelos, market and I hope I got their name right has moved in or they had their grand opening beach and ball in district one and just want to welcome them to the community.

1429
04:09:18,280 --> 04:09:25,280
If you get an opportunity to go there, a couple of nice things about them while I was in there, they had a really nice fresh fruit selection.

1430
04:09:25,280 --> 04:09:28,280
A meat counter, kind of unexpected.

1431
04:09:28,280 --> 04:09:31,280
They also had a really nice salsa bar in there as well.

1432
04:09:31,280 --> 04:09:34,280
And then they kind of the dessert on top.

1433
04:09:34,280 --> 04:09:36,280
They also sell portals cakes.

1434
04:09:36,280 --> 04:09:41,280
So maybe you don't have to wait in the line down there off of beach ball of art and point a park.

1435
04:09:41,280 --> 04:09:43,280
You can come to the market and get your cake there.

1436
04:09:43,280 --> 04:09:50,280
And then I know that we are not done with or we're not through Halloween and I thought really hard that maybe I would notice this.

1437
04:09:50,280 --> 04:09:58,280
I do want to say on December 5th, the wow organization is having the twilight tree lighting event.

1438
04:09:58,280 --> 04:10:00,280
And again, that's December 5th.

1439
04:10:00,280 --> 04:10:03,280
And I will also mention that at the next meeting as well.

1440
04:10:03,280 --> 04:10:07,280
Thank you.

1441
04:10:07,280 --> 04:10:08,280
Thank you.

1442
04:10:08,280 --> 04:10:13,280
And now's the time for the City Manager's update, Mr. City Manager. Do you have anything to report?

1443
04:10:13,280 --> 04:10:15,280
I do. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1444
04:10:15,280 --> 04:10:17,280
Members of the public council.

1445
04:10:17,280 --> 04:10:22,280
I want to think this opportunity to address the council and community on a recent news story.

1446
04:10:22,280 --> 04:10:27,280
We disagree with the characterization of the coverage and the claim it is based on.

1447
04:10:27,280 --> 04:10:32,280
It defies years of reliable responsible financial management at the City of Anaheim.

1448
04:10:32,280 --> 04:10:41,280
Something attested to in yearly financial audits by KPMG LLP and recognized by the government finance officers association.

1449
04:10:41,280 --> 04:10:46,280
I need to respect all involved by not speaking directly to specific claim here.

1450
04:10:46,280 --> 04:10:51,280
But the nature of any claim is that anything can be said verified or unverified.

1451
04:10:51,280 --> 04:10:54,280
And that is the right of someone filing a claim.

1452
04:10:54,280 --> 04:10:57,280
We urge caution on this and all claims.

1453
04:10:57,280 --> 04:11:06,280
We have ample safeguards of place for procurement, contracts, purchasing cards and other financial and workplace matters.

1454
04:11:06,280 --> 04:11:13,280
Our initial review does not suggest fraud or warrant the characterizations seen in the coverage of this claim.

1455
04:11:13,280 --> 04:11:21,280
We stand by our purchases of ambulances now serving our community and by the handling of our purchasing cards and computers.

1456
04:11:21,280 --> 04:11:25,280
That said, we welcome and take all concerns brought to our attention seriously.

1457
04:11:25,280 --> 04:11:32,280
Before this coverage we had already commissioned an independent review by an outside law firm that is now several weeks underway.

1458
04:11:32,280 --> 04:11:37,280
And I look forward to gaining a better understanding of the facts and what next steps may be.

1459
04:11:37,280 --> 04:11:40,280
As we respect and let that process play out.

1460
04:11:40,280 --> 04:11:50,280
I and everyone can continue to place trust, earn trust in the professionalism of city staff and the high ethical standards are organization operates by.

1461
04:11:50,280 --> 04:11:57,280
And our community can continue to hold confidence in its city, budget and our stewardship of public money.

1462
04:11:57,280 --> 04:12:00,280
One last item.

1463
04:12:00,280 --> 04:12:07,280
Cal Chief's conference, Anaheim Fire and Rescue is one that Anaheim Fire and Rescue is one of the prides of our city.

1464
04:12:07,280 --> 04:12:14,280
And we were happy to welcome fire chiefs and other fire leaders from around the state to Anaheim for their annual Cal Chiefs conference.

1465
04:12:14,280 --> 04:12:20,280
I had the privilege of speaking at the conference this morning and sharing some background on Anaheim Fire and Rescue.

1466
04:12:20,280 --> 04:12:23,280
And I'll share something I said to them this morning.

1467
04:12:23,280 --> 04:12:29,280
Every day our teams respond to medical emergencies, fires, accidents and rescues.

1468
04:12:29,280 --> 04:12:31,280
There is an incredible ask.

1469
04:12:31,280 --> 04:12:39,280
We make of our firefighters, paramedics and ambulance operators every day and they continue to show up in our moments of need.

1470
04:12:39,280 --> 04:12:48,280
So today on national first responders day, I'd like to again thank everyone at Anaheim Fire and Rescue and Anaheim Police for all that you do.

1471
04:12:48,280 --> 04:12:50,280
Thank you, Mayor.

1472
04:12:50,280 --> 04:12:58,280
Thank you very much. We're now going to turn to address the city council consent calendar items 1 through 25 are before us.

1473
04:12:58,280 --> 04:13:03,280
Are there any items that council members would like to pull for further discussion?

1474
04:13:03,280 --> 04:13:06,280
I will start with council member Kurtz.

1475
04:13:06,280 --> 04:13:10,280
Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to pull item 13.

1476
04:13:10,280 --> 04:13:13,280
Thank you very much. Council member Bayless.

1477
04:13:13,280 --> 04:13:15,280
Item number 10.

1478
04:13:15,280 --> 04:13:18,280
Thank you very much.

1479
04:13:18,280 --> 04:13:20,280
Council member Rubikovah.

1480
04:13:20,280 --> 04:13:22,280
Item number 15.

1481
04:13:24,280 --> 04:13:26,280
Thank you.

1482
04:13:26,280 --> 04:13:31,280
With that, those three items pulled, is there a motion to move the balance of the calendar?

1483
04:13:31,280 --> 04:13:33,280
Move the balance.

1484
04:13:33,280 --> 04:13:36,280
So we have a motion in a second. Please vote.

1485
04:13:36,280 --> 04:13:46,280
Council member Rubikovah.

1486
04:13:46,280 --> 04:13:52,280
The vote is seven eyes, no nays, motion carries.

1487
04:13:52,280 --> 04:14:03,280
So the first item pulled is item number 10 by council member Bayless. Would you like a staff report?

1488
04:14:03,280 --> 04:14:08,280
No, I just wanted to recognize the fact that, again, I know this.

1489
04:14:08,280 --> 04:14:14,280
What does that think about two months ago, we pulled some other intersections that we're getting upgraded.

1490
04:14:14,280 --> 04:14:23,280
And I just wanted to point out, I guess, the district won anyways, that on Magnolia Avenue and Lincoln Avenue Broadway,

1491
04:14:23,280 --> 04:14:31,280
Broadway at Magnolia and then also at Notten Ball, we'd be getting some new additional four-way stops.

1492
04:14:31,280 --> 04:14:37,280
Excuse me, not four-way stops with some traffic signals with the dedicated turn light.

1493
04:14:37,280 --> 04:14:41,280
So I just wanted to point that out and say thank you, Rudy.

1494
04:14:41,280 --> 04:14:43,280
Thank you.

1495
04:14:43,280 --> 04:14:44,280
Thank you.

1496
04:14:44,280 --> 04:14:47,280
The next item pulled was item number.

1497
04:14:47,280 --> 04:14:48,280
I don't know.

1498
04:14:48,280 --> 04:14:50,280
Oh, sorry.

1499
04:14:50,280 --> 04:14:51,280
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1500
04:14:51,280 --> 04:14:52,280
I also had a comment on that.

1501
04:14:52,280 --> 04:14:55,280
I got the Westana Highway guys commenting on this one.

1502
04:14:55,280 --> 04:14:59,280
I also wanted to highlight.

1503
04:14:59,280 --> 04:15:00,280
There.

1504
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:11,000
Intersections that we're going to be doing, left term protected signal lanes for, Rudy, can you just explain what that means and what that is.

1505
04:15:11,000 --> 04:15:26,000
I apologize and good evening. The protected left-turn lanes are when we're converting the lighting to have a protected arrow versus the green ball. So those movements can occur without any through movement. It's just a safer operation for the intersection.

1506
04:15:26,000 --> 04:15:31,000
Thank you. And then potential timeline for these, what does that look like?

1507
04:15:31,000 --> 04:15:39,000
Timeline with this award typically, where we would need to order traffic signal poles. Those are usually a long lead item.

1508
04:15:39,000 --> 04:15:48,000
They've been recently taken up to about nine months to get. So I would say from today, we're probably looking about a year until everything is completed.

1509
04:15:48,000 --> 04:15:52,000
I heard three months. Did anybody else hear three months?

1510
04:15:52,000 --> 04:15:54,000
Okay. I'm sorry.

1511
04:15:54,000 --> 04:16:04,000
There you go. Well, I, I, I, I, I, I hope and wish that it's sooner than nine months, but I did also want to highlight this because these are intersections, including.

1512
04:16:04,000 --> 04:16:17,000
Obviously, for that are sort of shared between district one and two, including Magnolia and Lincoln Broadway and Magnolia, which has been a big concern for residents that they continue to bring that up to me.

1513
04:16:17,000 --> 04:16:22,000
As well as brokers and ball. And so I appreciate the team being able to move forward on this.

1514
04:16:22,000 --> 04:16:29,000
I hope it's sooner versus later so that we can ensure that our residents are feeling safe, especially as we're traveling along these roads.

1515
04:16:29,000 --> 04:16:33,000
And so if my colleague wants to make a motion and happy to second it.

1516
04:16:33,000 --> 04:16:35,000
I'll second.

1517
04:16:35,000 --> 04:16:42,000
Thank you. We have a motion and a second. Please vote.

1518
04:16:42,000 --> 04:16:47,000
The vote is seven. Nice. No, nays. Motion carries.

1519
04:16:47,000 --> 04:16:53,000
Next item pulled was item number 13 by council member Kurtz. Would you like a staff report?

1520
04:16:53,000 --> 04:17:04,000
No, I don't need a staff report. I just first of all want to, you know, that I certainly support the item. It's very exciting that we have this program.

1521
04:17:04,000 --> 04:17:15,000
Just can you tell us a little bit about the program and really what I'm interested in is how do residents learn that this program exists?

1522
04:17:15,000 --> 04:17:21,000
We advertise it. So obviously, you know, there's a lot good evening first of all. And so it is.

1523
04:17:21,000 --> 04:17:31,000
We do take it upon ourselves to make sure that it's widely advertised through libraries, mobile, resource centers, it would have you.

1524
04:17:31,000 --> 04:17:42,000
When it was first going around, we were there was also some utility programs out there and so when that goes out so right now that like we're doing when we got the district council meetings.

1525
04:17:42,000 --> 04:17:51,000
We bring materials there to make sure that residents know about it because it's clear it's not instinctual not every city offers that.

1526
04:17:51,000 --> 04:17:57,000
And so we want we do want to make sure that home because it's a program for homeowners and sometimes homeowners.

1527
04:17:57,000 --> 04:18:04,000
I believe that there isn't anything for them and so we do have a responsibility to make sure that it's widely advertised.

1528
04:18:04,000 --> 04:18:20,000
And so you're, do you work closely with then with code enforcement as a site someone for a problem in the home. Do they this code enforcement contact you so that you can reach out to the resident.

1529
04:18:20,000 --> 04:18:36,000
We do meet with code enforcement. We do some marketing and advertisements when we were using habitat for humanity and now we'll be using a new provider and so we'll be getting new marketing programs for them to be passing out and then they also send over referrals and we have that.

1530
04:18:36,000 --> 04:18:49,000
And then we also just want to advertise at the phone number to get on our waiting list is 714 765 430 and we already have eight individuals on our wait list right now and so once this.

1531
04:18:49,000 --> 04:18:55,000
Is approved tonight then we'll be able to start moving forward with evaluating the eligibility.

1532
04:18:55,000 --> 04:19:02,000
And just a little bit expanded is it's funded with community development block grant and so we fund code enforcement through community development.

1533
04:19:02,000 --> 04:19:14,000
Broadclank so this is the companion piece we fund the enforcement piece and then the other piece that helps you to address the enforcement action that may be might make needs to mitigation.

1534
04:19:15,000 --> 04:19:20,000
If there are no further questions I mean we have eight families waiting so I'd like to.

1535
04:19:22,000 --> 04:19:24,000
As for a vote on that.

1536
04:19:24,000 --> 04:19:28,000
Thank you council member Leon and then council member Ruevacava.

1537
04:19:28,000 --> 04:19:34,000
I don't want to keep people waiting but Grace can you just explain what this program is.

1538
04:19:34,000 --> 04:19:47,000
So the program is for what we define as lower income home buyers 80% of AMI are below it is for home owners who need some minor repair in their work it could be.

1539
04:19:47,000 --> 04:19:57,000
They got cited for things going on in their landscape being or something else something else going on in their home that they need help with and so.

1540
04:19:57,000 --> 04:20:13,000
There are three components to the program the first is for for single family homes or condos or or of that nature you can get up to 15 1000 which is it's in the form of a loan which but is a forgivable loan so up to.

1541
04:20:13,000 --> 04:20:20,000
And if you remain the home the home buyer there for the first time I'm sorry I'm getting my programs.

1542
04:20:20,000 --> 04:20:23,000
If you remain there for 10 years and we forgive.

1543
04:20:23,000 --> 04:20:40,000
We forgive the loan at the end of the 10 years if they move out prior to the 10 years we collect whatever balances do so year five half of it maybe do we collected back there's a second tier to that if you need major major repair and we've had a number of those where.

1544
04:20:40,000 --> 04:20:51,000
Major roof repair or other structural damage that we will lend up to a hundred thousand with 3% interest but that is a that is a loan you must pay that back.

1545
04:20:51,000 --> 04:21:04,000
And it's you upon the sale or the death of the home buyer if they want to pay it off sooner certainly we encourage that and then the third component that we added about two years ago or so.

1546
04:21:04,000 --> 04:21:16,000
And it was a mobile home component because initially our guidelines did not allow for mobile homes they weren't a qualified property so the mobile home park component of it it's 15 thousand and that's a grant.

1547
04:21:16,000 --> 04:21:27,000
We treat mobile homes differently than we do single or primary property because the mobile homes do not appreciate at the same rate or in the same way that that that will stay property.

1548
04:21:27,000 --> 04:21:29,000
Okay.

1549
04:21:29,000 --> 04:21:32,000
Thank you.

1550
04:21:32,000 --> 04:21:41,000
I appreciate this program and especially the inclusion of mobile homes because I have a mobile home park with many residents who are fixing comes in that area.

1551
04:21:41,000 --> 04:21:56,000
But I just wanted to ask a question so CDBG funds are those federal state what where do we get that from it's federal so if the federal budget decides to eliminate this expense how will we fill this gap.

1552
04:21:56,000 --> 04:22:09,000
We would come back to you for direction on that I mean what we know right now is the community development block grant program is has been authorized and so we're confident that we'll be able to offer this at least through the next year.

1553
04:22:09,000 --> 04:22:21,000
What happens after that remains to be seen CDBG has experienced strong support from the federal government so we're hopeful that that would be but if in the event that that money wasn't there we would come back and say you know.

1554
04:22:21,000 --> 04:22:32,000
That those resources were not available and we could decide seek direction as to whether or not we continue that the alternative means right and because one of the major priorities of this council is really to.

1555
04:22:32,000 --> 04:22:50,000
Prevent homelessness but also to tackle the homelessness issues that we face in our city and a lot of our general fund dollars go to that so naturally if the federal government continues to cut funding we would look to the general fund to help replenish that is that what you would come back and ask us to do.

1556
04:22:51,000 --> 04:23:01,000
As we normally do we would try to find alternative funding see if there's any other program that would find it in the event that it was not there yes we would come back and we would say this is what we offered the zirometrics.

1557
04:23:01,000 --> 04:23:07,000
And then ask you whether or not this is something that you would choose to continue and likely out of the general fund.

1558
04:23:07,000 --> 04:23:13,000
Thank you and I just want to thank you guys because the two of you respond at all hours of the night.

1559
04:23:13,000 --> 04:23:26,000
Many of the residents that I represent in the city of Anaheim and many of them are either facing homelessness I know Santa Lizzo just spoke with somebody this week who was unable to get housing and she was looking into that issue.

1560
04:23:26,000 --> 04:23:37,000
But we have moms and with kids who are always facing issues and I just want to thank you guys for being responsive and coming up with programs like this that help the residents of Anaheim who are lower income.

1561
04:23:37,000 --> 04:23:47,000
A skate homelessness and look towards a thriving future for them and their families so thank you.

1562
04:23:47,000 --> 04:23:49,000
That all second.

1563
04:23:49,000 --> 04:23:59,000
So we have a motion in a second. I just wanted to ask with this program have we ever I know habitat for humanity has a big robust volunteer base.

1564
04:23:59,000 --> 04:24:09,000
Are there any with the new administrator do they have a volunteer component of their program or how are they going to kind of help assist get the work done.

1565
04:24:09,000 --> 04:24:16,000
Because it is CDBG funded it does have to be work has to be done through a licensed contractor.

1566
04:24:16,000 --> 04:24:26,000
They are there boxes that we have to check I know for other things not related to this program we have love Anaheim and maybe Santa can expand on that.

1567
04:24:26,000 --> 04:24:46,000
So when we have some of the applicants that may not be eligible we do seek other types of nonprofits such as love Anaheim to help out whatever projects they have to to bridge to bridge that gap sometimes they they're eligible in some portions of the needs they have and not in others so then we try and bridge between the two.

1568
04:24:46,000 --> 04:24:56,000
Thank you and maybe with that or people that if they're on the waiting list but don't qualify or are eligible this year we can work with love Anaheim as well as.

1569
04:24:56,000 --> 04:25:07,000
The building trades even the business council to try to do smaller projects with them to help some of the families that are bringing their houses up to code absolutely.

1570
04:25:07,000 --> 04:25:12,000
Thank you so we have a motion and a second can we please vote.

1571
04:25:17,000 --> 04:25:20,000
The vote is seven eyes known as motion carries.

1572
04:25:26,000 --> 04:25:33,000
Thank you so we are going to be moving on from our consent calendar to item number 26 on the business calendar.

1573
04:25:33,000 --> 04:25:35,000
Mayer we had item 15.

1574
04:25:35,000 --> 04:25:40,000
Oh I'm so sorry I thought we already the so yes item number 15.

1575
04:25:40,000 --> 04:25:50,000
Would you like a staff report yes please so Mr. Martin.

1576
04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:52,000
Thank you.

1577
04:25:52,000 --> 04:26:03,000
Good evening mayor and city council in keeping with the city's strategic plan goal of the promotion of economic development tourism and strategy number one.

1578
04:26:03,000 --> 04:26:10,000
The local offering of opportunities to maximize the benefits of the 2026 World Cup and a 2020 Olympics.

1579
04:26:10,000 --> 04:26:21,000
For your consideration tonight is the approval of the games agreement with the Los Angeles organizing committee for the LA 28 Olympic and parallel Olympic games.

1580
04:26:21,000 --> 04:26:30,000
Otherwise known as O cog or I will use LA 28 to stage Olympic indoor volleyball in the city of Anaheim at the honest center.

1581
04:26:30,000 --> 04:26:45,000
As quick background in September of 2016 in connection with the city of Los Angeles is application for the 2024 Olympic and parallel games the city of Anaheim as a proposed venue city.

1582
04:26:45,000 --> 04:26:54,000
Provided letter which set forth certain governing principles and commitments as part of the submitted application questionnaire.

1583
04:26:54,000 --> 04:27:09,000
Not so shortly thereafter in September of 2017 Los Angeles was formally awarded not the 2024 but the 2028 Olympic and parallel in the games by the international Olympic committee.

1584
04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:21,000
In April of 2025 this year the city and Honda center were announced as a venue city and setting for all Olympic indoor volleyball for the 2020 Olympic games.

1585
04:27:21,000 --> 04:27:33,000
Immediately following the announcement the city and LA 28 have met regularly and worked collaboratively to complete negotiations on the terms of this games agreement.

1586
04:27:33,000 --> 04:27:48,000
The games agreement the one in front of you tonight intends to establish the city as an official LA 28 venue city and establish the principles and commitments for the city's participation as a venue city.

1587
04:27:48,000 --> 04:28:00,000
While also including specific terms and conditions to provide the framework of how the city and LA 28 will work together and coordinate during the Honda center events.

1588
04:28:00,000 --> 04:28:19,000
Key elements include outlining the city's role such as the general process for delivery of standard and enhanced public services and arranging for the reimbursement of city expenses through a yet to be negotiated supplemental agreements.

1589
04:28:19,000 --> 04:28:29,000
In the next few years the city and LA 28 will work together to define those cities standard and enhanced public services for the indoor volleyball games.

1590
04:28:29,000 --> 04:28:37,000
which will be formalized in enhanced city resources master agreement which is not the agreement for any of you tonight.

1591
04:28:37,000 --> 04:28:50,000
Additionally a venue services agreement so a third agreement will specify the actual enhanced resources and logistics for the city requirements at and nearby the Honda center.

1592
04:28:50,000 --> 04:29:03,000
These two agreements the enhanced city resources master agreement and the venue services agreement we brought to the city council for consideration in October of 2026 and 2027 respectively.

1593
04:29:03,000 --> 04:29:07,000
But here is a rundown as some of the key games agreement provisions.

1594
04:29:08,000 --> 04:29:25,000
The city will provide normal and customary public services within the games footprint area addison expense so the city will run the city as it normally would as there was no Honda center event occurring.

1595
04:29:25,000 --> 04:29:32,000
And these services were provided by the city at the same level and range as they would should the games not being not taking place.

1596
04:29:33,000 --> 04:29:43,000
The city will provide for additional or enhanced public services for the games within the games footprint at LA 28 expense.

1597
04:29:43,000 --> 04:29:56,000
I'll say that again. The city will provide for additional public services for the games within the games footprint so the area around the Honda center at LA 28 expense not the cities expense.

1598
04:29:56,000 --> 04:30:00,000
And this will be detailed in the enhanced city of resources.

1599
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:07,360
This is Master Agreement. The city and L.A. 28 will negotiate an execute, a venue services agreement,

1600
04:30:07,360 --> 04:30:14,080
to detail the venues enhance city resources costs and access rights. So that is a third agreement,

1601
04:30:14,080 --> 04:30:22,080
which will be an estimate of cost to be reimbursed by L.A. 28. For advertising space under city control,

1602
04:30:22,080 --> 04:30:30,080
the city shall assist in the facilitation of only discussions between L.A. 28 and its media operators.

1603
04:30:30,080 --> 04:30:37,080
Also, as part of any new hotel development application, and after the effective date of this game's agreement,

1604
04:30:37,080 --> 04:30:50,080
the city would require the developer to allow L.A. 28 to purchase up to 90% of the hotels inventory for use by games related stakeholders during the games.

1605
04:30:50,080 --> 04:30:57,080
The city agrees to not subject the games and or take a buyer's to any future admission taxes,

1606
04:30:57,080 --> 04:31:05,080
parking or taxes related taxes provided that the city may take any action that is legally required

1607
04:31:05,080 --> 04:31:12,080
to taking connection with a tax measure, put on a ballot, pursue a voter approved petition.

1608
04:31:12,080 --> 04:31:20,080
L.A. 28 and the International Olympic Committee endeavor to promote a sustainable development

1609
04:31:20,080 --> 04:31:27,080
operations in sports by encouraging and supporting responsible concern for environmental issues,

1610
04:31:27,080 --> 04:31:31,080
and it is required that the games be conducted in alignment with these values.

1611
04:31:31,080 --> 04:31:41,080
L.A. 28 is committed to delivering an inclusive and socially responsible experience for all athletes, fans, partners and local community during the games.

1612
04:31:42,080 --> 04:31:51,080
The city will ensure that laws and regulations to control authorized street trading within the vicinity of the games will be enforced.

1613
04:31:51,080 --> 04:32:00,080
The city also agrees to work in collaboration with L.A. 28 and local regional and national business trade and service organizations

1614
04:32:00,080 --> 04:32:09,080
to promote and encourage the charging of regular and customary prices for goods and services for anyone attending the 20 games.

1615
04:32:09,080 --> 04:32:21,080
And finally, the city will support L.A. 28 as applicable partners, including Honda Center, to streamline and provide timely view of all permitting and zoning needs for the games.

1616
04:32:21,080 --> 04:32:25,080
As stated previously, should the city approve the games agreement.

1617
04:32:25,080 --> 04:32:36,080
The second agreement that the city will be required to enter into is an enhanced city resources master agreement to be completed by October 1 of 2026.

1618
04:32:36,080 --> 04:32:51,080
This agreement will establish terms, service levels, unit costs, rates, repayment timelines and auto rights for city services at L.A. 28 expense.

1619
04:32:51,080 --> 04:33:00,080
Following the city's approval of the enhanced city resources master agreement, the city and L.A. 28 will enter into a venue services agreement.

1620
04:33:00,080 --> 04:33:18,080
This venue services agreement will identify the specified, the specific enhanced city resources that will be required for the Honda Center and surrounding games of appropriate area during the 2020 games and the associated cost for reimbursement.

1621
04:33:18,080 --> 04:33:23,080
Thank you for your time and I am available for any questions that you may have.

1622
04:33:23,080 --> 04:33:26,080
I'll turn it over to council member Rubikaba.

1623
04:33:26,080 --> 04:33:28,080
Thanks Tom for the staff report.

1624
04:33:28,080 --> 04:33:33,080
So that was my main question was the reimbursement.

1625
04:33:33,080 --> 04:33:35,080
So I guess I have two questions.

1626
04:33:35,080 --> 04:33:46,080
One, how come we're approving this initial agreement without seeing all of the detail that will benefit our city?

1627
04:33:46,080 --> 04:33:48,080
So that has to come back.

1628
04:33:48,080 --> 04:33:49,080
So how does this find us?

1629
04:33:49,080 --> 04:33:52,080
Maybe this is a better question for Rob.

1630
04:33:53,080 --> 04:33:56,080
So council member thank you for the question.

1631
04:33:56,080 --> 04:34:02,080
So this agreement sets the baseline of what the city would do without the Honda Center event.

1632
04:34:02,080 --> 04:34:04,080
So there's a lot of moving parts.

1633
04:34:04,080 --> 04:34:08,080
The federal government's involved in security issues.

1634
04:34:08,080 --> 04:34:11,080
So the specifics as to the enhanced component.

1635
04:34:11,080 --> 04:34:21,080
The labor and equipment that will be required to host volleyball events at Honda Center have not been thoroughly fleshed out as of yet.

1636
04:34:21,080 --> 04:34:24,080
Okay.

1637
04:34:24,080 --> 04:34:34,080
And then what is the, I see here that you note the 2.5 million for potential revenue from the Convention Center food and beverage due to the event.

1638
04:34:34,080 --> 04:34:39,080
I'm just trying to get a good pulse on what the benefit to our city is.

1639
04:34:39,080 --> 04:34:42,080
I see the value in bringing the games here.

1640
04:34:42,080 --> 04:34:46,080
So I just want to make sure it's not going to be a complete strain on our infrastructure.

1641
04:34:46,080 --> 04:34:50,080
I know it's only 10 days and the benefits from an economic development side.

1642
04:34:50,080 --> 04:34:56,080
I mean, bringing people from outside of our city to look at all of the wonderful things we have the OC5 project.

1643
04:34:56,080 --> 04:34:59,080
Disney, the packing house, our downtown area.

1644
04:34:59,080 --> 04:35:04,080
Those are all benefits to the small businesses, but how much is it going to cost us.

1645
04:35:04,080 --> 04:35:10,080
To operate this and on the reimbursement side, when do we expect to get reimbursed.

1646
04:35:10,080 --> 04:35:12,080
So council member, thank you for the question.

1647
04:35:12,080 --> 04:35:14,080
It's actually 15 days of activity.

1648
04:35:14,080 --> 04:35:18,080
So the Honda Center will be active every day of the Olympics.

1649
04:35:18,080 --> 04:35:26,080
Starting with four events a day at the beginning and then kind of working its way down to the final four two games and the finals for both the men's and women's.

1650
04:35:26,080 --> 04:35:40,080
In terms of the economic impact is really based on the activity of those coming to the city, whether to stay in hotels or to come and spend money at restaurants or at the Honda Center from a sales tax perspective.

1651
04:35:41,080 --> 04:35:47,080
The airmark component that the convention center component may have been an airmark component from another item.

1652
04:35:47,080 --> 04:35:51,080
But I can tell you from an economic impact standpoint.

1653
04:35:51,080 --> 04:35:58,080
Visit Anaheim has already secured a room block of almost 4,000 rooms for L.A. 28.

1654
04:35:58,080 --> 04:36:02,080
So those are rooms that will be consumed in the resort area.

1655
04:36:02,080 --> 04:36:04,080
And that doesn't take into consideration.

1656
04:36:04,080 --> 04:36:12,080
We believe that some countries volleyball teams will actually buy out hotels and stay in the resort.

1657
04:36:12,080 --> 04:36:18,080
Versus staying at the Olympic village, which potentially you see Irma.

1658
04:36:18,080 --> 04:36:20,080
Do we.

1659
04:36:20,080 --> 04:36:31,080
And I know that the answer to this, but do we possibly enter the area where people could secure rooms and then cancel them and then leave some of our smaller hotels with vacancies.

1660
04:36:31,080 --> 04:36:35,080
Or do we have safeguards in place to prevent that from happening?

1661
04:36:35,080 --> 04:36:42,080
And I know that probably is at the hotel level, but I assume visit Anaheim and the convention center are pretty involved in all of the planning.

1662
04:36:42,080 --> 04:36:44,080
If the agreement is coming to the city.

1663
04:36:44,080 --> 04:36:46,080
Councilman, thank you for the question.

1664
04:36:46,080 --> 04:36:48,080
So in terms of the room block.

1665
04:36:48,080 --> 04:36:54,080
I haven't seen the room block, but typically it comes with what's called attrition, which is that kind of insurance component.

1666
04:36:54,080 --> 04:37:00,080
However, the rooms that are outside of the block would be at the property level.

1667
04:37:00,080 --> 04:37:03,080
And then how will we prepare for the 15 days?

1668
04:37:03,080 --> 04:37:12,080
I mean, we're not going to hire additional police officers or firefighters or city employees to support the increase in our infrastructure.

1669
04:37:12,080 --> 04:37:14,080
So what's the plan for that?

1670
04:37:14,080 --> 04:37:19,080
So more than likely, we will certainly maximize the opportunity with Anaheim's sworn officers.

1671
04:37:19,080 --> 04:37:25,080
And in areas where we may not have enough, we will look for support from neighboring cities.

1672
04:37:25,080 --> 04:37:29,080
All those costs being reimbursed through the city through L.A. 28.

1673
04:37:29,080 --> 04:37:34,080
And then who will work on that? Is that something the chiefs will work on with, okay?

1674
04:37:34,080 --> 04:37:47,080
And then I just want to make sure that the residents who are within our communities are still getting the same response and support that they would be if we weren't experiencing this.

1675
04:37:47,080 --> 04:37:50,080
And I'm not complaining about having more people here.

1676
04:37:50,080 --> 04:37:57,080
But I just want to ensure that we have a plan in place that is not at the detriment of the residents of Anaheim.

1677
04:37:57,080 --> 04:38:06,080
So councilmember, yes. So the enhanced component is where the reimbursement is and the enhanced would be just that.

1678
04:38:06,080 --> 04:38:12,080
It would be over and above what the city does on any given day for the residents of the city.

1679
04:38:12,080 --> 04:38:20,080
Perfect and I look forward to seeing that enhancement and I'm glad to hear that there will be a reimbursement.

1680
04:38:20,080 --> 04:38:24,080
Thank you councilmember. I just wanted to share one thing.

1681
04:38:24,080 --> 04:38:27,080
I know that.

1682
04:38:27,080 --> 04:38:30,080
Mr. Morton has been very helpful.

1683
04:38:30,080 --> 04:38:37,080
When I first got elected, we did not have a Olympic group put together.

1684
04:38:37,080 --> 04:38:53,080
And so Mr. Morton is very helpful in helping me create an organization between all of our county partners, state partners, hotels, the resort area, business leaders, transportation, OCTA, Metrolink.

1685
04:38:53,080 --> 04:38:59,080
Because there's just a lot of pieces that we do have to think about before we were dipping our toe into it.

1686
04:38:59,080 --> 04:39:06,080
But one of the really creative things that came out of it that I know we're working on with visit Anaheim is doing community watch programs.

1687
04:39:06,080 --> 04:39:14,080
Because not everyone's going to be able to be inside the Honda Center. And so we're going to do some dry runs with the FIFA and World Cup.

1688
04:39:14,080 --> 04:39:24,080
But we are going to try to make it something that's both inside the Honda Center, but if you don't have a ticket or you're not in that area, we're going to try to create some more community spaces.

1689
04:39:24,080 --> 04:39:27,080
So I would love everyone's input as we get closer.

1690
04:39:27,080 --> 04:39:32,080
I know 28 sounds a little far away, but it's not. It'll be here before we know it.

1691
04:39:32,080 --> 04:39:43,080
But if anyone has any creative ideas too about, you know, or wants to kind of jump in and help us do creative community spaces. We want to make sure everybody gets involved and has that Olympic fever.

1692
04:39:43,080 --> 04:39:52,080
I think it's a real honor to have the Olympics in our city. And so I appreciate all of your hard work in taking this initial first step.

1693
04:39:52,080 --> 04:39:55,080
Councilmember Meeks.

1694
04:39:55,080 --> 04:40:03,080
Thank you. And you know, I appreciate this agreement that calls for the reimbursement for enhanced services.

1695
04:40:03,080 --> 04:40:12,080
And I also, you know, recognize that TOT, I mean, I'm excited about having the athletes stay in Anaheim engaging with our community.

1696
04:40:12,080 --> 04:40:23,080
And I did have some creative ideas. I was talking to some people that had gone to the Paris Olympics and I guess they had fun zones and we need a fun zone.

1697
04:40:23,080 --> 04:40:32,080
And so yes, yes, but I'm thinking maybe, you know, near the grow over the stadium or something where we're close to the event.

1698
04:40:32,080 --> 04:40:51,080
But we're far enough away where we can't have the community out there. We can have watch parties. We can have demonstrations. We can hopefully connect athletes and the community and the kids and build Olympic excitement and fever for our community and and encourage kids to try new sports and get outside and be athletic.

1699
04:40:51,080 --> 04:41:07,080
So I'm super excited about having it here. And I think that we can capitalize on it for our community and and get reimbursement for the enhanced costs that will have that's it.

1700
04:41:07,080 --> 04:41:15,080
Thank you. With no further questions. Would you like to make a motion.

1701
04:41:15,080 --> 04:41:20,080
All right. We have a motion in a second. Please vote.

1702
04:41:22,080 --> 04:41:28,080
Council member.

1703
04:41:32,080 --> 04:41:36,080
The vote is seven eyes. No, nice. Motion carries.

1704
04:41:36,080 --> 04:41:50,080
Thank you. So now we're to our business calendar item 26 is a presentation regarding the proposed modification to the Anaheim tourism improvement district city manager may we please have a staff report.

1705
04:41:51,080 --> 04:41:53,080
That's for staff report from Assistant the manager.

1706
04:41:53,080 --> 04:41:58,080
Garcia please.

1707
04:42:03,080 --> 04:42:13,080
Good evening, Mayor Council. Tonight's item is is a presentation regarding the proposed modification to the a to.

1708
04:42:13,080 --> 04:42:22,080
As you may recall, we did approve a resolution of intent in the end of September as part of the process moving forward after that was approved.

1709
04:42:22,080 --> 04:42:34,080
State law requires us to have a public meeting and a presentation in order to allow additional public testimony that we had during public comment period earlier this evening.

1710
04:42:34,080 --> 04:42:54,080
And so with that I have a short presentation a trunk either presentation from the last resolution of intent item and we'll go through just a refresher on what we plan to do through the modification and what the next steps are moving forward.

1711
04:42:54,080 --> 04:43:02,080
As we went over at the last meeting, we are making certain modifications to the a to documents.

1712
04:43:02,080 --> 04:43:09,080
First and foremost, we're seeking to establish a dedicated ongoing funding allocation for workforce housing.

1713
04:43:09,080 --> 04:43:17,080
And how and this fund would be directed to the Anaheim housing trust and use to support assessed hotels.

1714
04:43:18,080 --> 04:43:28,080
For the works man in the eighted boundaries to incorporate the existing live hotel but then also potential hotels along in near and I'm Boulevard up to ball road.

1715
04:43:28,080 --> 04:43:41,080
We are eliminating an existing exemption for vacation ownership or time share units from the assessment and so in the future all time share projects developed within the district will participate as assess facilities.

1716
04:43:41,080 --> 04:43:45,080
That's growing the assessment.

1717
04:43:45,080 --> 04:43:52,080
We are seeking to eliminate a provision that would change revenue allocation split between the marketing and transportation funds.

1718
04:43:52,080 --> 04:44:04,080
It would move from 7525 to 7030 in the future we are eliminating that provision in this modification.

1719
04:44:04,080 --> 04:44:13,080
We are updating the management plan to clarify the types of activities and services programs and improvements anticipated to be funded by the a to including housing program.

1720
04:44:13,080 --> 04:44:21,080
And then also we are establishing housing committee to approve the use of a to the area workforce housing program funds.

1721
04:44:21,080 --> 04:44:31,080
So as we discussed last time this is the proposed funding allocation so we have the a to assessment this is around estimate number of thirty two million dollars.

1722
04:44:31,080 --> 04:44:42,080
Currently there is one percent that goes towards the administration of the fund the collection of the funds and distribution that's one percent today has existed since the start of the program that will continue.

1723
04:44:42,080 --> 04:44:49,080
And then there's the nine percent of the total for a eighted workforce housing programs that's roughly three million dollars today.

1724
04:44:49,080 --> 04:44:57,080
And then the remaining funds would be split amongst the marketing bucket and then the transit and transportation bucket 7525.

1725
04:44:57,080 --> 04:45:00,080
And so those are the amounts and revenue.

1726
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:14,000
We did discuss 16 extending the e-tit boundaries. And so this shows in shaded blue area, the, uh, the, the, the,

1727
04:45:14,000 --> 04:45:23,000
compassing the Viv Hotel. And then, uh, potential opportunities along, and I'm full of art up to ball road. And then also there's a discussion about, uh,

1728
04:45:23,000 --> 04:45:33,000
the, um, south of Disneyway. So, uh, during the discussion that was, that was, um, mentioned that that

1729
04:45:33,000 --> 04:45:38,000
should be included. And so we included that little triangle at the very southern end of the blue tip as well.

1730
04:45:38,000 --> 04:45:49,000
So the governing documents that are being amended, the municipal code, uh, the management plan, and the e-tit boundary maps. Also,

1731
04:45:49,000 --> 04:45:56,000
we are re adjusting the list of participating hotels. And then, of course, uh, the resolution of formation.

1732
04:45:56,000 --> 04:46:04,000
So, most importantly, the next steps. So we, we did the first step of the resolution of intent on September 23rd.

1733
04:46:04,000 --> 04:46:09,000
Tonight is our public meeting to satisfy state law.

1734
04:46:10,000 --> 04:46:19,000
And then the real show is on the 18th of November, uh, that will be our public hearing, where we will introduce the ordinance, the management plan and related items.

1735
04:46:19,000 --> 04:46:28,000
And then also that is the time in which we will tabulate if there are any protest votes. If there are protest votes that constitute over 50% of the, uh,

1736
04:46:28,000 --> 04:46:34,000
page, then, uh, we will not move forward if it is less than that, then we will move forward.

1737
04:46:34,000 --> 04:46:42,000
Uh, so that will occur on November 18th. And then there will be a second reading of successful on 129 December 9th.

1738
04:46:42,000 --> 04:46:53,000
And then we anticipate everything moves forward that the commencement of the e-tit allocation funds for the housing program will commence February 1st of 26.

1739
04:46:54,000 --> 04:46:57,000
And that concludes my presentation. Have a dance or any questions.

1740
04:46:57,000 --> 04:47:06,000
Thank you so much. Do we have any questions or comments by council members on item number 26?

1741
04:47:06,000 --> 04:47:11,000
Okay. Seeing none. Do we have, oh, sorry. Council member makes.

1742
04:47:11,000 --> 04:47:14,000
I'm just excited to make the motion to move this forward.

1743
04:47:14,000 --> 04:47:15,000
Right.

1744
04:47:15,000 --> 04:47:16,000
So I'll make the motion.

1745
04:47:16,000 --> 04:47:19,000
Mayor and city council. This was just an information item.

1746
04:47:20,000 --> 04:47:21,000
Sorry to steal your thunder.

1747
04:47:23,000 --> 04:47:25,000
Thank you so much.

1748
04:47:26,000 --> 04:47:28,000
I was happy for you.

1749
04:47:28,000 --> 04:47:30,000
Um, yeah, let's, I love it.

1750
04:47:30,000 --> 04:47:38,000
Uh, so we are going to then move on to item number 27, which was an item requested by council member Rubikolva, uh,

1751
04:47:38,000 --> 04:47:40,000
related to a potential ballot measure.

1752
04:47:40,000 --> 04:47:44,000
Is this just a city manager? May we have a staff report.

1753
04:47:45,000 --> 04:47:49,000
That's for a staff report from city attorney for Bella please.

1754
04:47:49,000 --> 04:47:52,000
Good evening, Mayor and members of the city council.

1755
04:47:52,000 --> 04:48:01,000
Tonight before you are two related items that if approved would place general tax measures on the November 2026 ballot for voter consideration.

1756
04:48:01,000 --> 04:48:09,000
These measures would establish a 3% tourism tax on large entertainment and sporting venues and a 10% parking tax on large privately operated.

1757
04:48:10,000 --> 04:48:12,000
Parking facilities in Anheim.

1758
04:48:12,000 --> 04:48:20,000
Uh, at your September 23 meeting, council member Rubikolva requested that staff prepare potential ballot measures for these concepts.

1759
04:48:20,000 --> 04:48:24,000
The intent is to ask Anheim voters whether they wish to establish.

1760
04:48:24,000 --> 04:48:28,000
Uh, new general taxes that would help support essential city services.

1761
04:48:28,000 --> 04:48:34,000
If approved tonight, both measures would appear on the November 3rd, 2026 general municipal election ballot.

1762
04:48:34,000 --> 04:48:41,000
Because they are general taxes, the revenues would go into the city's general fund and could be used for any lawful municipal purpose.

1763
04:48:41,000 --> 04:48:44,000
Next slide again.

1764
04:48:44,000 --> 04:48:54,000
The first measure, uh, the tourism tax proposal would impose a 3% tax citywide on the admission price paid by patrons of privately owned or operated theme parks.

1765
04:48:54,000 --> 04:48:59,000
And entertainment or sporting venues with a capacity of more than 20,000 people.

1766
04:48:59,000 --> 04:49:09,000
In Anheim today, we believe that means ticket sales currently at Disneyland, Disney, California Adventure and Angel Stadium would fall within the category covered by the proposed ordinance.

1767
04:49:09,000 --> 04:49:18,000
Based on current attendance levels in ticket prices, this measure is estimated to generate between 89 million and 134 million dollars annually.

1768
04:49:18,000 --> 04:49:24,000
The proposed ballot question that we're wording of which is regulated by state statute reads.

1769
04:49:24,000 --> 04:49:33,000
Shall the city of Anaheim impose a tax equal to 3% of the admission ticket price on patrons of privately owned or operated large.

1770
04:49:33,000 --> 04:49:37,000
Perenn capacity exceeding 20,000 people and perenn.

1771
04:49:37,000 --> 04:49:40,000
The impacts and sports and entertainment events venues.

1772
04:49:40,000 --> 04:49:50,000
Generating 89 million to 134 million annually to be used for general city services such as parks, street maintenance, police fire and emergency response.

1773
04:49:50,000 --> 04:49:55,000
You've seen your services in affordable housing until ended by the voters.

1774
04:49:55,000 --> 04:49:58,000
Next slide.

1775
04:49:59,000 --> 04:50:08,000
The second measure would create a 10% tax on parking fees that privately owned or operated facilities with 1,500 or more parking spaces.

1776
04:50:08,000 --> 04:50:15,000
The tax would be paid by the person parking vehicle and the operator of the lottery structure would collect and remit the tax to the city.

1777
04:50:15,000 --> 04:50:21,000
Staff estimates this measure would generate $19 million to $30 million per year in new general fund revenue.

1778
04:50:21,000 --> 04:50:23,000
The proposed ballot question reads.

1779
04:50:23,000 --> 04:50:31,000
Shall the city of Anaheim establish a parking tax equal to 10% of the parking fee slash charge on patrons who park it privately owned or operated large.

1780
04:50:31,000 --> 04:50:36,000
Perenn capacity is exceeding 1500 vehicles and perenn parking facility events.

1781
04:50:36,000 --> 04:50:43,000
Generating 19 million to 30 million annually to be used for general city service such as parks, street maintenance.

1782
04:50:43,000 --> 04:50:45,000
Police fire and emergency response.

1783
04:50:45,000 --> 04:50:50,000
You've seen your services affordable housing and other quality of life services until ended by the voters.

1784
04:50:51,000 --> 04:51:02,000
There are a parking at hotels already submitted the city's transit occupancy tax would be exempt to avoid double taxation.

1785
04:51:02,000 --> 04:51:08,000
As presented in the staff report there are a few important contractual considerations tied to these proposed measures.

1786
04:51:08,000 --> 04:51:17,000
The least the city's least with the angels includes a clause providing that if the city imposes any ticket admission or parking tax based on revenues from the stadium.

1787
04:51:17,000 --> 04:51:21,000
One was received a recredit against his rent equal to the amount of that tax.

1788
04:51:21,000 --> 04:51:27,000
Because of that uncertainty, staff did not include the angel stadium revenue and the estimated tax projection.

1789
04:51:27,000 --> 04:51:33,000
That issue would need to be resolved through agreement with the team or through a court determination.

1790
04:51:33,000 --> 04:51:44,000
In addition, both development agreements with Disneyland Ford and OC vibe allow the city to impose city-wide taxes that apply generally to categories of development or use.

1791
04:51:44,000 --> 04:51:50,000
As long as the tax is not directed solely at those projects, we believe that those proposed taxes meet that test.

1792
04:51:50,000 --> 04:51:55,000
They are city-wide and apply to any venue or parking facility meeting the same capacity threshold.

1793
04:51:55,000 --> 04:52:00,000
But that does not mean that the city is immune from defending lawsuits arguing otherwise.

1794
04:52:00,000 --> 04:52:06,000
Finally, the city's proposed host agreement with the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Committee.

1795
04:52:07,000 --> 04:52:11,000
It requires that no admissions or parking taxes apply to Olympic events.

1796
04:52:11,000 --> 04:52:18,000
The draft ordinances therefore include a specific exemption for Olympic events held in Anaheim consistent with that contract.

1797
04:52:18,000 --> 04:52:30,000
If Council approves these resolutions tonight, which per our charter must be done with five yes votes, staff will work with the registrar voters to prepare the ballot materials for the November 2026 election.

1798
04:52:30,000 --> 04:52:40,000
Between now and then, Council would be asked later to set the schedule for arguments for and against and also the timing of the city attorneys impartial analysis.

1799
04:52:40,000 --> 04:52:47,000
And there will be ample opportunity for community education and voter outreach explaining to propose measures and their impacts.

1800
04:52:47,000 --> 04:52:56,000
To address economic issues surrounding a potential tourism and parking tax, I will throw it over to City Finance Director Debbie Moreno.

1801
04:52:57,000 --> 04:53:00,000
Thank you. Good evening Mayor and members of the Council.

1802
04:53:00,000 --> 04:53:04,000
We'll begin with a review of the general fund budget.

1803
04:53:04,000 --> 04:53:06,000
The adopted five year forecast.

1804
04:53:06,000 --> 04:53:20,000
A review of the existing big three revenues and then take a brief look at funding needs and potential new revenues from the tourism and parking taxes that could offset these needs.

1805
04:53:20,000 --> 04:53:27,000
But before you as a review of the general fund forecast, that was adopted for fiscal year 2526.

1806
04:53:27,000 --> 04:53:34,000
As a reminder, we are balanced with use of one time money, including the balance of the working capital bond proceeds.

1807
04:53:34,000 --> 04:53:41,000
The 10 million previously set aside for the repayment of debt and the proceeds from the Hilton parking structure.

1808
04:53:41,000 --> 04:53:46,000
We are still estimating that LPMR would be paid off in April of 2027.

1809
04:53:46,000 --> 04:53:53,000
However, even with the earlier pay off, there are some risks that could upset the balance of the five year forecast.

1810
04:53:53,000 --> 04:54:03,000
This plan does not include any labor agreements beyond those that have already been approved, nor does it contemplate the risk of an economic recession.

1811
04:54:04,000 --> 04:54:09,000
We'll quickly go over the adopted fiscal year 26 budget as a refresher.

1812
04:54:09,000 --> 04:54:16,000
The general fund is the main repository of tax tax revenues and discretionary sources of funding.

1813
04:54:16,000 --> 04:54:21,000
Our big three revenues, transit occupancy sales and use tax and property tax.

1814
04:54:21,000 --> 04:54:25,000
Make up 74% of the general fund revenue sources.

1815
04:54:25,000 --> 04:54:30,000
The largest pieces is transit occupancy tax or TOT at 39%.

1816
04:54:30,000 --> 04:54:38,000
Sales and use tax makes up 18% and property makes up 17% with business license fees, permits.

1817
04:54:38,000 --> 04:54:43,000
Other revenues and transfers are making up the remaining balance.

1818
04:54:43,000 --> 04:54:46,000
Now we'll go over an outlook for the big three.

1819
04:54:46,000 --> 04:54:58,000
The adopted TOT budget for fiscal year 2526 is approximately 247 million or 39% of the general fund operating sources.

1820
04:54:58,000 --> 04:55:07,000
The resort area counts for 90% or 238 million of the TOT revenue received.

1821
04:55:07,000 --> 04:55:17,000
Visitors to Yanahime pay a tax of 15% on hotel motel and short term rental stays of 30 days or less.

1822
04:55:17,000 --> 04:55:24,000
TOT is our largest revenue source for the general fund and is driven by visitors to the Yanahime resort.

1823
04:55:24,000 --> 04:55:33,000
This is a port services to our community that would otherwise need to be funded by taxes on and the hybrid residents if they weren't paid by visitors.

1824
04:55:33,000 --> 04:55:43,000
The adopted sales and use tax budget for fiscal year 2526 is 115 million or 18% of the general fund operating sources.

1825
04:55:43,000 --> 04:55:50,000
The resort area counts for 28% or roughly 33 million of the sales tax revenue received.

1826
04:55:51,000 --> 04:55:56,000
Sales and use tax is a tax applied to the sale of 10 of old personal property.

1827
04:55:56,000 --> 04:56:02,000
The tax rate in Yanahime is 73% of retail sales.

1828
04:56:02,000 --> 04:56:06,000
The city receives 1% of every dollar spent in Yanahime.

1829
04:56:06,000 --> 04:56:24,000
Yanahime has a diverse and balanced economy about 30% comes from general retail and the remaining 70% is shared among amongst equally among the food transportation construction and business to business categories.

1830
04:56:24,000 --> 04:56:38,000
The adopted budget for property tax for 2526 is approximately 1111 million or 17% of the general fund operating revenues.

1831
04:56:38,000 --> 04:56:49,000
All real and tangible personal property in the state is subject to the property tax equal to 1% of the value and our share is approximately 20% of that.

1832
04:56:49,000 --> 04:57:11,000
So we've talked about where the revenue comes from where do we spend our money over 64% of our expenditures go to keeping a safe, which includes police and fire and it's typical a local government.

1833
04:57:11,000 --> 04:57:23,000
The labor expenditures of 372 make it nearly 70% of the general fund budget as indicated in the chart on the right includes full and part time salaries over time.

1834
04:57:23,000 --> 04:57:30,000
An associated benefit costs including medical dental workers comp and retirement.

1835
04:57:30,000 --> 04:57:43,000
Before the five year forecast is balanced with use of reserves it does not contemplate the threat of recession or any risk they could have the deficit to grow and fund balances to dip below the minimum policy level.

1836
04:57:43,000 --> 04:57:51,000
Any revenue loss associated with the recession could all so compromise the projected pay off of the LPMR revenue bonds.

1837
04:57:52,000 --> 04:58:00,000
For illustrative purposes the first table is an estimate of what the impacts to the big three revenues could be if there is a recession.

1838
04:58:00,000 --> 04:58:07,000
We're not saying that there will be a recession or that this will result in a one percent decline.

1839
04:58:07,000 --> 04:58:12,000
Just provide an example to demonstrate the magnitude of potential losses.

1840
04:58:12,000 --> 04:58:22,000
The table includes the projected loss of budgeted revenue growth as well as the amount of each one percent contraction should a recession occur.

1841
04:58:22,000 --> 04:58:28,000
The one percent can be factored to estimate lesser or greater declines or even potential gains.

1842
04:58:28,000 --> 04:58:35,000
The city way classification and compensation study and expiring memorandum of understanding.

1843
04:58:35,000 --> 04:58:44,000
With several labor groups bring added risk to the five year forecast just like revenues one percent is provided to demonstrate the magnitude.

1844
04:58:44,000 --> 04:58:52,000
And can be used to factor the impact of different scenarios the five year forecast does not include any salary adjustments beyond.

1845
04:58:52,000 --> 04:59:02,000
What is contractually obligated in the current agreements salary amounts negotiated more than one percent would have a proportionally greater effect.

1846
04:59:02,000 --> 04:59:07,000
In addition to the revenue losses associated with the potential recession.

1847
04:59:07,000 --> 04:59:21,000
Including labor costs related to the city way class and comp study or expiring labor agreements there's also a risk of federal spending cuts that could directly impact down on.

1848
04:59:21,000 --> 04:59:26,000
So this five year forecast scenario includes all the changes we know today.

1849
04:59:26,000 --> 04:59:42,000
So this is increases to dispatcher salaries the just approve firefighter and a higher firefighter agreement and the safer grant revenue for our new firefighters.

1850
04:59:42,000 --> 04:59:53,000
And it's demonstrates the potential impact of all groups received five percent a year and the effects of those increases on our general fund reserves.

1851
04:59:53,000 --> 05:00:00,000
The city strives to maintain a minimum unrestricted fund balances seven to 10 percent a general fund budget.

1852
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:25,000
In this scenario shown here, the minimum reserve level would fall below 7 to 10% policy in year 2. Note that in this scenario, our reserves would never go above where they are today, and a structural deficit would return in year 5 of this forecast scenario.

1853
05:00:25,000 --> 05:00:46,000
While they have a long standing policy of maintaining minimum reserves at 7 to 10% of ongoing expenditures, GFOA, the Government Finance Officers Association, recommends the governments that are more dependent on volatile revenue sources may need to maintain a higher level of unrestricted fund balance.

1854
05:00:46,000 --> 05:00:54,000
The pandemic exposed our reliance on TOT, but the impact was mitigated by the LPMR transfer.

1855
05:00:54,000 --> 05:01:08,000
With the pay off of the resort bonds, the volatility of TOT becomes a greater risk to our financial health and calls for us to re-evaluate the city's minimum fund balance policy.

1856
05:01:08,000 --> 05:01:15,000
This chart is a reminder of the reliance of the city on the resort area based on today's revenues and estimated costs.

1857
05:01:15,000 --> 05:01:33,000
In total, more than $32 million is expected to flow into Anaheim Resort this year, with which is approximately 63% of the general funds tax revenues and as comprised of TOT sales, property taxes and business license fees.

1858
05:01:33,000 --> 05:01:49,000
The surplus of more than $140 million generated by the Anaheim Resort represents 27% of the general funds ongoing expenditure budget, which is available to provide coarser at city services.

1859
05:01:49,000 --> 05:01:56,000
This slide outlines the remaining LPMR payments assuming the pay off in spring of 2027.

1860
05:01:56,000 --> 05:02:12,000
So as you can see here, the annual value of LPMR in fiscal year 2026 is just above 114 million, and next year it would have been close to 120 million.

1861
05:02:13,000 --> 05:02:24,000
This is a look at the remaining general fund that after the resort bonds retired repayment of these debt obligations would free up nearly 24 million per year for other purposes.

1862
05:02:24,000 --> 05:02:37,000
All summer none could be paid off early. The benefit is that it provides resources that could be redirected to the community from now and into the future.

1863
05:02:37,000 --> 05:02:58,000
Addressing deferred maintenance expanding infrastructure and adding amenities are priorities in the strategic plan a new senior center or community center would each cost between 10 to 25 million, depending on the size of the facility with annual operating costs of at least 800,000 per year.

1864
05:02:58,000 --> 05:03:06,000
A new pool or aquatic center would cost approximately 20 to 25 million and would also bring ongoing operating costs.

1865
05:03:07,000 --> 05:03:24,000
Quarter beautification and pavement improvement is estimated at 40 million per year combined and finally deferred maintenance would require an additional 50 million investment and 10 million a year per year thereafter.

1866
05:03:24,000 --> 05:03:29,000
Under the goal of promoting public safety and in alignment with the city council's top priorities.

1867
05:03:29,000 --> 05:03:40,000
We have included station 13. The estimated cost of the station is approximately 20 million with ongoing operating expenses a 3.8 million annually.

1868
05:03:40,000 --> 05:03:51,000
This could include a fire and ambulance cavity a cost of 3.8 million annually and one time cost of 1.5 million to purchase an app of fit the apparatus.

1869
05:03:52,000 --> 05:04:01,000
On the police side, a new police headquarters is estimated at 350 million with annual debt service costs of 35 million.

1870
05:04:01,000 --> 05:04:19,000
We also included the cost to add an additional 10 officers to support the city's goal of maintaining a safe city, which would be about 3.2 million per year with one time costs of 800,000 for vehicles and equipment.

1871
05:04:20,000 --> 05:04:30,000
Now we will look at the revenue opportunities as requested by council member will cover this slide shows how much voter approved tourism and parking tax could generate.

1872
05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:36,000
We looked at current admission prices for entertainment venues and their published attendance rates.

1873
05:04:36,000 --> 05:04:44,000
We had to make some assumptions so we've included a 20% margin of error assuming a 3% tax on admissions.

1874
05:04:44,000 --> 05:04:50,000
The city could generate anywhere from 89 to 134 million annually.

1875
05:04:50,000 --> 05:04:59,000
A parking tax could generate 19 to 30 million for total taxes estimated at 108 to 164 million.

1876
05:04:59,000 --> 05:05:08,000
The implementation of voter approved entertainment tax taxes would increase the city's reliance on revenue generated by the resort.

1877
05:05:08,000 --> 05:05:12,000
Additionally, a locally administered taxes.

1878
05:05:12,000 --> 05:05:22,000
These are locally administered taxes and we require the city to implement and administer which would bring some associated costs.

1879
05:05:22,000 --> 05:05:28,000
This concludes our presentation and we'd be happy to answer any questions.

1880
05:05:28,000 --> 05:05:38,000
Thank you so much. I want to turn it back to council member who will call that as this was her item. Would you like to lead us off with any questions or comments and then if anyone else has questions or comments please.

1881
05:05:38,000 --> 05:05:46,000
Yeah, thank you, Mary again. I first want to thank staff for just really coming to the table and providing all of this information.

1882
05:05:46,000 --> 05:05:58,000
As a policy maker for the city of Anaheim, it really is my responsibility to ensure that we have a properly funded general fund for the residents of Anaheim including the people who work for our city.

1883
05:05:58,000 --> 05:06:05,000
So we wanted to take the opportunity to really go through the budget and identify the reasons why.

1884
05:06:05,000 --> 05:06:14,000
And initiative like this makes sense for our city. It's not just taxing for the sake of taxing. I am the last person who would like to do something like that.

1885
05:06:14,000 --> 05:06:30,000
But I will also just mention to my council colleagues. We did explore other options which included a sales tax and I'll ask Director Marenot to highlight some of that if she has that information with her and we also looked at a utility tax which other cities have.

1886
05:06:30,000 --> 05:06:37,000
Thankfully the residents of Anaheim as well as the businesses are not burdened with additional taxes on the sales tax side.

1887
05:06:37,000 --> 05:06:58,000
As Director Marenot mentioned, we have a 7.75 sales tax in the city of Anaheim and we don't have an additional tax which is good for the residents when they go to the grocery store or to buy a top for their daughter at Target or buy a car in our city. We want to encourage that kind of economic development not discourage it.

1888
05:06:58,000 --> 05:07:10,000
So that was one of the things we looked at. We also looked at a utility tax. A utility tax would have a direct negative impact on residents here. We have a 30 to 40% ducous here.

1889
05:07:10,000 --> 05:07:18,000
I think our utilities are about 30 to 40% lower than our surrounding cities who utilize other energy companies for their.

1890
05:07:18,000 --> 05:07:33,000
Lights electricity, water and some of those other benefits. So as a resident who not only has several family members who live in the city, it's important that we protect our economic viability for the residents here.

1891
05:07:33,000 --> 05:07:36,000
So they can continue to thrive in our city.

1892
05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:41,000
The other thing that we explored was this ticket tax.

1893
05:07:41,000 --> 05:07:49,000
The person who sat in my seat possibly back in a couple years ago maybe had different intentions behind a tax like this.

1894
05:07:49,000 --> 05:07:55,000
It was probably to harm our largest employer, but that's not the intention behind this.

1895
05:07:55,000 --> 05:08:02,000
It's really to leverage some of our local economy that's really driving development here.

1896
05:08:02,000 --> 05:08:09,000
This and this is something that Rob can weigh in on them, but we also looked at whether or not this is a tax on business or a tax on the consumer.

1897
05:08:09,000 --> 05:08:21,000
So we chose for this to be a tax on the consumer, so it would not have a direct negative impact on Disney and the differ or other large events and tourism attractions here in our city.

1898
05:08:21,000 --> 05:08:30,000
The difference if it was a business tax, they would be required to pay us a minimum amount regardless of whether or not people visited.

1899
05:08:30,000 --> 05:08:41,000
This tourism tax the way it's structured, it's just like the TOT, so it's paid for by the visitor or the person who is buying the general general admission ticket or any ticket to an event like this.

1900
05:08:41,000 --> 05:08:53,000
And they would then tender their tax on this issue or on this tourism, I'm sorry, on the ticket they are purchasing.

1901
05:08:53,000 --> 05:09:01,000
On the parking side, the reason why it made a lot of sense and this isn't a surprise if anybody was here during the Disney Forward discussion.

1902
05:09:01,000 --> 05:09:11,000
One of the things I mentioned in this in a public meeting to the then President Ken Potrock, was it would be great if they could work with us on an assessment on the parking structure.

1903
05:09:11,000 --> 05:09:19,000
Because the residents of Anaheim did sacrifice for 40 years to allow the TOT revenue from the general fund to pay down that debt.

1904
05:09:19,000 --> 05:09:28,000
And thankfully, that'll be paid down in a couple of years and I did not think it was unreasonable for us to benefit from that investment on the city side.

1905
05:09:28,000 --> 05:09:42,000
So unfortunately, they were unwilling to look at it on an assessment, a self assessment, so that is why I'm now coming to my council colleagues to ask you to please consider all of the impacts that this would have.

1906
05:09:42,000 --> 05:09:51,000
And I will say this, this is not personal, this is absolutely business, our businesses have to do what's right for their business model.

1907
05:09:51,000 --> 05:10:05,000
So if that includes increasing their prices and I do wonder if some of the trade groups that came here tonight to mention the impact that we would have by increasing or putting a tax on some of these tickets.

1908
05:10:05,000 --> 05:10:16,000
I do wonder if you reach out to some of these businesses who raise their prices and also oppose their implementation of an increase because it might have a negative direct impact on your business.

1909
05:10:16,000 --> 05:10:18,000
I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen.

1910
05:10:18,000 --> 05:10:27,000
So I'm asking everybody here tonight to come with an open mind and really understand the impact that something like this could have on the residents of Anaheim.

1911
05:10:27,000 --> 05:10:29,000
It's not about ego, it's about impact.

1912
05:10:29,000 --> 05:10:34,000
So today I'm just asking us to really enter this discussion with an open mind.

1913
05:10:34,000 --> 05:10:39,000
There's flexibility, this is something I worked on and brought to council for discussion.

1914
05:10:39,000 --> 05:10:44,000
It doesn't necessarily have to be 3% but I would like to start that conversation.

1915
05:10:44,000 --> 05:10:47,000
And with that I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to my council colleagues.

1916
05:10:47,000 --> 05:10:54,000
Thank you very much council member. I'm going to start off with council member Kurtz and then Mayor Pro Temmix.

1917
05:10:55,000 --> 05:11:07,000
I have some some questions regarding the budget our finances.

1918
05:11:07,000 --> 05:11:15,000
And I guess my first question is, are we in financial trouble?

1919
05:11:15,000 --> 05:11:18,000
That's not at all what I was indicating.

1920
05:11:18,000 --> 05:11:24,000
We have a short roll deficit that will be resolved with the LPMR path.

1921
05:11:24,000 --> 05:11:27,000
Thank you.

1922
05:11:27,000 --> 05:11:43,000
Are we a staff, the city manager and staff talking about decreasing programs, decreasing hours of our libraries or community centers?

1923
05:11:43,000 --> 05:11:45,000
No, we are not.

1924
05:11:45,000 --> 05:11:48,000
Are we talking about closing any of those?

1925
05:11:48,000 --> 05:11:50,000
No, we are not.

1926
05:11:50,000 --> 05:11:55,000
Are we are you considering talking about hiring freeze?

1927
05:11:55,000 --> 05:11:57,000
We are not.

1928
05:11:57,000 --> 05:11:59,000
Any layoffs considered?

1929
05:11:59,000 --> 05:12:00,000
No.

1930
05:12:00,000 --> 05:12:02,000
Okay.

1931
05:12:03,000 --> 05:12:09,000
It's mentioned that you explored other options.

1932
05:12:09,000 --> 05:12:14,000
And talked about other options but we haven't had an opportunity to.

1933
05:12:14,000 --> 05:12:18,000
Take a look at other options and explore them.

1934
05:12:18,000 --> 05:12:25,000
As a as a council we haven't taken a look at that.

1935
05:12:25,000 --> 05:12:28,000
Am I correct or did I miss something along the way?

1936
05:12:29,000 --> 05:12:36,000
I think the fact of the matter is I brought this initiative because the other options would have a negative impact on residents.

1937
05:12:36,000 --> 05:12:41,000
And also the businesses because they would then be subjected to the increase in sales tax.

1938
05:12:41,000 --> 05:12:43,000
So that is that was right.

1939
05:12:43,000 --> 05:12:44,000
It's not here today.

1940
05:12:44,000 --> 05:12:45,000
Okay.

1941
05:12:45,000 --> 05:12:47,000
That is one person's opinion.

1942
05:12:47,000 --> 05:12:48,000
But we can.

1943
05:12:48,000 --> 05:12:53,000
We've discussed and you mentioned.

1944
05:12:53,000 --> 05:12:59,000
Reliance on the resort area.

1945
05:12:59,000 --> 05:13:03,000
And you mentioned a couple of times possibility of a recession.

1946
05:13:03,000 --> 05:13:10,000
I think during a recession one of the very first things that happened.

1947
05:13:10,000 --> 05:13:13,000
It's affected is discretionary spending.

1948
05:13:13,000 --> 05:13:14,000
You said all for that.

1949
05:13:14,000 --> 05:13:17,000
A visit to a resort.

1950
05:13:17,000 --> 05:13:18,000
To Disneyland.

1951
05:13:18,000 --> 05:13:23,000
Stay at the hotel is one of the first things that would go be crossed out of.

1952
05:13:23,000 --> 05:13:26,000
A family's budget.

1953
05:13:26,000 --> 05:13:31,000
And so that and we learned dramatically impacts our resort area.

1954
05:13:31,000 --> 05:13:34,000
That our TOT are sales tax.

1955
05:13:34,000 --> 05:13:40,000
And we figured in I can't 60 to 67% of our general fund.

1956
05:13:40,000 --> 05:13:46,000
And as a result of TOT sales tax.

1957
05:13:46,000 --> 05:13:49,000
I was coming out of the resort area.

1958
05:13:49,000 --> 05:13:53,000
If we were to have these increases.

1959
05:13:53,000 --> 05:14:03,000
What percent of our general fund would be reliant on the resort area.

1960
05:14:03,000 --> 05:14:09,000
We're going to have a loan with once the LPM R pays off.

1961
05:14:09,000 --> 05:14:17,000
So with the it's roughly 27% of our budget today with the access from the surplus from the resort.

1962
05:14:17,000 --> 05:14:21,000
So that would essentially then double that number.

1963
05:14:21,000 --> 05:14:23,000
And that's before any new items.

1964
05:14:23,000 --> 05:14:29,000
So we, you know, you're probably approaching 70, 80% reliant.

1965
05:14:30,000 --> 05:14:34,000
I'm one industry in our city.

1966
05:14:34,000 --> 05:14:35,000
All right.

1967
05:14:35,000 --> 05:14:36,000
Thank you.

1968
05:14:36,000 --> 05:14:43,000
I have other questions, but I'll let my other council member ask the questions.

1969
05:14:43,000 --> 05:14:45,000
Thank you mayor.

1970
05:14:45,000 --> 05:14:46,000
Dr. Mariano.

1971
05:14:46,000 --> 05:14:48,000
Can you go back to slide 16.

1972
05:14:59,000 --> 05:15:01,000
Thank you.

1973
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:15,000
So, this, I believe you're showing, is the excess revenue that the resort generates for the city.

1974
05:15:15,000 --> 05:15:29,000
And that, I mean, you can say that the resort not only pays its fair share, it pays for its enhanced maintenance, it pays for its enhanced police and fire service,

1975
05:15:29,000 --> 05:15:39,000
it pays for all those things and then it spends off this revenue to the city for our general fund uses.

1976
05:15:39,000 --> 05:15:43,000
Is that correct? That is correct. Okay.

1977
05:15:43,000 --> 05:15:51,000
That's, I mean, that right there is something that I just want to make sure everybody understands.

1978
05:15:51,000 --> 05:16:14,000
The resort area is contributing significantly to our general fund. And I, if I saw a nexus between what it was costing us and what it was giving us, I would be more inclined to say, okay, we need to figure out a formula that makes them pay their fair share.

1979
05:16:14,000 --> 05:16:32,000
But they're paying their fair share and now we're suggesting punishing them for that and saying, no, you need to pay more because we need money over here for other things that you have nothing to do with and that just philosophically doesn't feel right to me.

1980
05:16:32,000 --> 05:16:37,000
You know, as you all know, I'm old and been around for a long time.

1981
05:16:37,000 --> 05:16:56,000
But when we first did all the work in the resort, we did the bonds and all that, there was a lot of discussion as to how we were going to fund that and the decision was to do it through TOT because that did not hit our residents.

1982
05:16:56,000 --> 05:17:10,000
And it was, you know, it could have been other taxes or other ways to do it. But TOT just hits the visitors and it's been a very successful program for us.

1983
05:17:10,000 --> 05:17:21,000
And I think that that's something that I would like to continue to embrace is that when we look at, you know,

1984
05:17:21,000 --> 05:17:32,000
charges in the resort that serve our city in other ways, I think that we've got it through our TOT.

1985
05:17:32,000 --> 05:17:43,000
So I don't see an access, the thing the way that I would like to raise TOT is through more heads and beds, right, that's where we get our money.

1986
05:17:43,000 --> 05:17:53,000
And to do that, I think our policies should encourage growth, encourage new hotels, and encourage people coming to our resort.

1987
05:17:53,000 --> 05:18:06,000
And I don't think this policy does that. So it's just, like I said, contrary to kind of my philosophy on how we raise revenue, even if we're just looking at the resort.

1988
05:18:07,000 --> 05:18:28,000
I want to build things that welcome more people here that create a destination world class, like nothing else, like better than world class nothing else in the world and welcome people here put those heads and beds and create an increased revenue that way.

1989
05:18:28,000 --> 05:18:41,000
And you know, when we talked, you said in your revenue projections, you did not include any growth in hotels from OC vibe and the resort, is that correct from Disneyland forward.

1990
05:18:41,000 --> 05:18:48,000
That's correct because it's still tentative on timing so we'll no matter more in the coming years.

1991
05:18:48,000 --> 05:19:05,000
Now I understand that, but I think in my mind, you know, if we if we encourage those things to happen and create policies that allow those things to happen sooner than later, that's a way to increase our revenue outlook and our budget projections.

1992
05:19:06,000 --> 05:19:18,000
So, I mean, I, I really want to thank Councilmember Rubikaba for bringing this issue forward. It's something that I've been talking about for a while that I wanted to look at our long term revenue.

1993
05:19:18,000 --> 05:19:33,000
Let's look at our five-year plan. I know we have this short term cash flow short fall that we need to address, but what does it look like long term? How are we going to allocate these additional revenues when the bonds get paid off?

1994
05:19:33,000 --> 05:19:41,000
I think it's an important discussion to have. I think we should continue to have it and we should continue to explore options for enhanced revenues.

1995
05:19:41,000 --> 05:19:52,000
But I also think that as our fiduciary responsibility, we need to look at revenue enhancements that also diversify our revenues.

1996
05:19:52,000 --> 05:20:04,000
I think having that, just on the resorts back, just counting on tourism, puts us that risk as you noted, you know, it's a little bit risky there.

1997
05:20:04,000 --> 05:20:15,000
So, what can we do? Citywide, how can we promote the Canyon Area to bring in more businesses? How can we drive some better sales tax revenues?

1998
05:20:15,000 --> 05:20:23,000
Those are types of things that we need to do. Once again, that's not what this policy does here.

1999
05:20:23,000 --> 05:20:39,000
So, unfortunately, I can't support this, but I do welcome the discussion and the continued discussion on what our budget looks like over the next five, 10 years and how we can achieve our needs and our wants.

2000
05:20:39,000 --> 05:21:02,000
The only other thing that I will mention, and it's an issue that, you know, has puzzled me for a while, is our police officers are working a lot of overtime. Do you know how many hours of overtime PD uses a year?

2001
05:21:02,000 --> 05:21:13,000
Currently, it's over 100,000, this last year was 160,000 overtime hours in the general fund.

2002
05:21:13,000 --> 05:21:24,000
So, it seems to me and I do not want to burn out our police officers, they have very difficult jobs and when they're on the job, I want them to be sharp.

2003
05:21:24,000 --> 05:21:39,000
So, I would like to look at a policy of hiring more officers and reducing that overtime number, and I was kind of waiting until we got the new chief on to have those staffing and personnel discussions.

2004
05:21:39,000 --> 05:21:50,000
But, I mean, it seems like it's something, if we're already paying $100,000 an overtime, it seems like we can hire some more officers instead of pay time and a half to the ones that we have in burn them out.

2005
05:21:50,000 --> 05:21:56,000
So, that's a side note, not necessarily for today's vote, but something I would like to look at.

2006
05:21:56,000 --> 05:21:58,000
And that's all I have right now.

2007
05:21:58,000 --> 05:22:00,000
Thank you Mayor Protem.

2008
05:22:00,000 --> 05:22:02,000
Councilmember Moss.

2009
05:22:02,000 --> 05:22:06,000
Thank you Mayor, just some initial thoughts and questions.

2010
05:22:06,000 --> 05:22:17,000
There was a comment or some headlines read earlier this evening and I just want to make a note that I don't make decisions that I don't think we should govern based on headlines.

2011
05:22:17,000 --> 05:22:24,000
We should always make decisions on what's best for our residents, both short term and long term.

2012
05:22:25,000 --> 05:22:27,000
The number 20,000.

2013
05:22:27,000 --> 05:22:33,000
I don't know, can anybody tell me how that was picked out versus a higher number that may include Honda Center?

2014
05:22:33,000 --> 05:22:37,000
I don't know who I should direct this question to, but how did 20,000 get?

2015
05:22:37,000 --> 05:22:41,000
You're referring to the thresholds and which the admission tax.

2016
05:22:41,000 --> 05:22:47,000
I'd prefer that to the council member who I'm happy to answer that question.

2017
05:22:47,000 --> 05:22:57,000
So, the logic behind that is the 20,000 is a threshold that would impact larger businesses and I say larger businesses, the patrons that are visiting.

2018
05:22:57,000 --> 05:23:00,000
It's not a direct impact on the business.

2019
05:23:00,000 --> 05:23:11,000
But with the Honda Center, we do have a lot of local residents who are going to duckskames or to concerts and they're already overburdened with a lot of additional fees.

2020
05:23:11,000 --> 05:23:17,000
So, I don't know if anybody's about a ticket, but ticket master's about 60% and increase to the cost of a ticket.

2021
05:23:17,000 --> 05:23:19,000
So, that really was the thought behind it.

2022
05:23:19,000 --> 05:23:29,000
They're not leveraging our infrastructure daily, like other larger businesses are who have a direct negative impact on our residents and the resources that we have.

2023
05:23:29,000 --> 05:23:32,000
So, that really was the reason for that.

2024
05:23:32,000 --> 05:23:33,000
Thank you.

2025
05:23:33,000 --> 05:23:41,000
And it does, it's referred to as a tourism tax, but are anaheim residents excluded from this tax?

2026
05:23:41,000 --> 05:23:45,000
I'm happy to explore what it would look like to exclude anaheim residents.

2027
05:23:45,000 --> 05:23:56,000
It's not in here at this point, but I wanted to bring it as big as it could be, and then the council could review it and come up with ideas that would, and I'm happy to include that.

2028
05:23:56,000 --> 05:23:57,000
Thank you.

2029
05:23:57,000 --> 05:24:01,000
I'm always open to creative solutions for our budget challenges.

2030
05:24:01,000 --> 05:24:05,000
I'm most interested in diversifying our revenue streams.

2031
05:24:05,000 --> 05:24:09,000
So, I'm really interested in attracting businesses to our canyon.

2032
05:24:09,000 --> 05:24:13,000
I'm excited about the development on the horizon.

2033
05:24:13,000 --> 05:24:17,000
I do have a concern that this may slow that development.

2034
05:24:17,000 --> 05:24:27,000
I think we have the best park in the world and Disney's best asset, but the reality is that they do have other places where they could invest.

2035
05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:33,000
Whether it's Orlando, Paris, Tokyo, I'm missing several parks, I'm sure.

2036
05:24:33,000 --> 05:24:35,000
But not to mention cruise lines.

2037
05:24:35,000 --> 05:24:43,000
So, as a business, I expect they will make decisions in the best interest of their shareholders and their business.

2038
05:24:43,000 --> 05:24:55,000
And I don't know if creating this tax and environment would be what we're looking for when it comes to investment here in Anaheim.

2039
05:24:55,000 --> 05:24:59,000
The world feels really upside down right now in general.

2040
05:24:59,000 --> 05:25:04,000
And Anaheim, the future feels really bright based on everything on the horizon.

2041
05:25:04,000 --> 05:25:08,000
And my concern is that this would kind of sign me or delay that.

2042
05:25:08,000 --> 05:25:09,000
So, that's her mat.

2043
05:25:09,000 --> 05:25:13,000
At this moment, I do still have an open mind and I'm looking forward to this discussion.

2044
05:25:13,000 --> 05:25:14,000
So, thanks.

2045
05:25:18,000 --> 05:25:19,000
Thank you.

2046
05:25:19,000 --> 05:25:23,000
Council over your rubble call, but you had chimed in, but I don't know if you did.

2047
05:25:23,000 --> 05:25:30,000
Yeah, so Debbie, can you do me a favor and go back to slide 15?

2048
05:25:30,000 --> 05:25:38,000
So, here you mentioned this forecast includes a 5% labor increase and let's face it, right?

2049
05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:44,000
Labor increases are more than 5% for the most part because we have a class in comp study coming out,

2050
05:25:44,000 --> 05:25:50,000
which will correct some of the low or paid employees in Anaheim.

2051
05:25:50,000 --> 05:25:57,000
How many employees do we have in the city of Anaheim?

2052
05:25:57,000 --> 05:25:59,000
Yes, 2,700.

2053
05:25:59,000 --> 05:26:04,000
So, we have about 2,700 city employees, which hasn't really grown.

2054
05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:12,000
I have a couple of figures I just want to share with my council colleagues, really quick when I pull them up.

2055
05:26:12,000 --> 05:26:22,000
So, in Anaheim over the last 10 years, we have in 2010 our city employee base was 2001 employees.

2056
05:26:22,000 --> 05:26:26,000
Now, we have 21,68, that's only an 8% increase.

2057
05:26:26,000 --> 05:26:31,000
Our residents have only increased by 1% and that could because the cost of living is a little bit high.

2058
05:26:31,000 --> 05:26:36,000
Total workforce in Anaheim has risen by 3%.

2059
05:26:36,000 --> 05:26:41,000
Our visitors to Anaheim have grown by 29%.

2060
05:26:41,000 --> 05:26:46,000
So, in 2010 our visitor base was 20 million and now we have 25.8 million.

2061
05:26:46,000 --> 05:26:54,000
And I do agree that we're grateful to have the resort because if we didn't we'd be standing or other cities who have challenges with their budget.

2062
05:26:54,000 --> 05:27:05,000
But the fact of the matter is our hotels are not capacity and we hear from many of our smaller hoteliers that they're not getting the benefit that other larger hoteliers are and they are suffering.

2063
05:27:05,000 --> 05:27:12,000
A lot of them have we have recovered from the pandemic and thankfully so because we're a tourism economy.

2064
05:27:12,000 --> 05:27:16,000
But I would just highlight to my council colleagues here.

2065
05:27:16,000 --> 05:27:19,000
This is a diversified revenue stream.

2066
05:27:19,000 --> 05:27:21,000
The TOT is only on hotels.

2067
05:27:21,000 --> 05:27:25,000
It does not include any other admissions fees.

2068
05:27:25,000 --> 05:27:28,000
So, that would be a diversification of our revenue stream.

2069
05:27:28,000 --> 05:27:34,000
It would be on people who are coming here for the day utilizing our roads, our highways,

2070
05:27:34,000 --> 05:27:40,000
drinking our water, going to utilizing our parks when they do come here.

2071
05:27:40,000 --> 05:27:41,000
I live by Pearson Park.

2072
05:27:41,000 --> 05:27:48,000
There's many people who are staying in some of the surrounding STRs or short-term rentals for those of you who don't know what an STR is.

2073
05:27:48,000 --> 05:27:55,000
And they're utilizing our city services including parking on our streets which includes streets sweeping and other amenities.

2074
05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:58,000
So, I hear what you're saying about the diversification of revenue.

2075
05:27:58,000 --> 05:28:01,000
But I do see this as a diversified revenue stream.

2076
05:28:01,000 --> 05:28:05,000
I guess it may be coming out of the resort but that may not be the case forever.

2077
05:28:05,000 --> 05:28:11,000
It could come out of the canyon if we're able to get a larger business with the capacity of that size.

2078
05:28:11,000 --> 05:28:13,000
But back to the forecast Debbie.

2079
05:28:13,000 --> 05:28:25,000
So, after the LPMR, which is the bond that was taken out to pay down the making friends structure, do we have a deficit?

2080
05:28:25,000 --> 05:28:31,000
After the bonds are retired, no, we have a positive budget situation.

2081
05:28:31,000 --> 05:28:33,000
And then what about in 2029?

2082
05:28:33,000 --> 05:28:43,000
Only under a 5% scenario could we see a structural deficit but those are choices that could be made.

2083
05:28:43,000 --> 05:28:49,000
So, do you see that we would not pay our employees what they should be earning as the city of it?

2084
05:28:49,000 --> 05:28:55,000
The largest city in the county of Orange, the economic engine for the locally economy for the state.

2085
05:28:55,000 --> 05:28:59,000
Would we not pay our employees what they should be earning?

2086
05:28:59,000 --> 05:29:03,000
So, I mean, would you anticipate that we would pay them any less than 5%.

2087
05:29:03,000 --> 05:29:05,000
That's policy decision.

2088
05:29:05,000 --> 05:29:06,000
Exactly.

2089
05:29:06,000 --> 05:29:15,000
And we are the ones looking at policy and I hear many of my colleagues often say, do we have enough money in our general fund to ensure the quality of services?

2090
05:29:15,000 --> 05:29:35,000
Can you also now go to the slide that shows the different items that we would use to fund some of these things based on our strategic planning?

2091
05:29:35,000 --> 05:29:43,000
Sorry, can you go back to the one slide where I think one of the council members pointed out the 100 million, the next one, or before that?

2092
05:29:43,000 --> 05:29:48,000
So, this 140 million, can you explain that to me again and where it's currently located in the budget?

2093
05:29:48,000 --> 05:29:52,000
That's the 37% of TOT.

2094
05:29:52,000 --> 05:30:00,000
Yes, it's currently in the budget in the general fund section on page.

2095
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:15,640
Page 59. So, this is something we publish for a number of years. So, what we have done is taking a look

2096
05:30:15,640 --> 05:30:26,640
at all our revenue sources, our top or our tax revenues, and by GO codes identified which are in the resort.

2097
05:30:26,640 --> 05:30:44,640
So, 97% of the transit in occupancy comes from the resort, 28% of sales and use tax comes from the resort, 15% of property tax comes from the resort, 16% of business license tax.

2098
05:30:44,640 --> 05:30:49,640
And then we have some Disney fees for public safety.

2099
05:30:49,640 --> 05:31:00,640
And then we apply what the debt service cost is for the current year. It was estimated the LPMR would be

2100
05:31:00,640 --> 05:31:08,640
and other debt for the resort expansion or convention expansion is 128 million.

2101
05:31:08,640 --> 05:31:17,640
We look at public safety costs. So, we've looked at calls for service within the resort, compared to the rest of the area.

2102
05:31:17,640 --> 05:31:33,640
We have looked at we've included a component, 6% of general government, supporting services that we allocate to the resort and then other upkeep we've even counted streetlights.

2103
05:31:33,640 --> 05:31:43,640
So, just to kind of explain this slide, the use is the 162 million is the TOT.

2104
05:31:43,640 --> 05:31:48,640
The use is what we spend. So, it's debt service and keeping is safe primarily.

2105
05:31:48,640 --> 05:31:53,640
Go then we have 140.8 million left over from the 300.

2106
05:31:53,640 --> 05:31:55,640
And that's in the general fund.

2107
05:31:55,640 --> 05:32:02,640
Correct. Okay. So, I just wanted to clarify what that slide is. It's not like, oh, we have so much more money. That's great.

2108
05:32:02,640 --> 05:32:06,640
And it's all in the resort because that's how our city was designed.

2109
05:32:06,640 --> 05:32:14,640
It was designed to generate our economic impact with the resort, but I don't think it was designed to kind of at the detriment of the residents.

2110
05:32:14,640 --> 05:32:20,640
So, that's my point here is I see it as a diversified revenue stream if we're not reliant on our hotels.

2111
05:32:20,640 --> 05:32:28,640
I do agree that it's great to have visit on our home, but we haven't seen a lot of movement with them to get more beds and heads. That is ideal.

2112
05:32:28,640 --> 05:32:33,640
We would love that, but it's not going to pay the bills.

2113
05:32:33,640 --> 05:32:43,640
And so, we have a $65 million deficit now. So, if the LPMR is paid off, it'll be about 120 million depending on how good the TOT revenue does.

2114
05:32:43,640 --> 05:32:51,640
So, that means $65 million of it is pretty much spent already on existing expenses. Is that correct?

2115
05:32:51,640 --> 05:32:55,640
Actually, it's a bit more than that based on some of the adjustments we've already saved in the share.

2116
05:32:55,640 --> 05:33:07,640
So, that is $70 million. Can you go to that slide, please?

2117
05:33:07,640 --> 05:33:17,640
We want that adjusted for this year.

2118
05:33:17,640 --> 05:33:27,640
So, the current deficit this year is $100 or is we're estimating at $70, almost $72 million.

2119
05:33:27,640 --> 05:33:31,640
And is that because the TOT is in performing at the rate that it should be?

2120
05:33:31,640 --> 05:33:39,640
No, we are still assuming that we hit our budget. This is strictly because of expenses.

2121
05:33:39,640 --> 05:33:55,640
And then these expenses are in place because we as a council have decided that there are certain policies that we would like to implement so that our city can continue to thrive, including some of our homeless outreach and some of the housing initiatives.

2122
05:33:55,640 --> 05:33:59,640
I'm just going to highlight that these are council initiatives that we would like to see funded.

2123
05:33:59,640 --> 05:34:11,640
So, like I mentioned, this is a diversified revenue stream that I would really, that I think would be something that we should at least allow our residents to decide whether or not it's something they would be able to support.

2124
05:34:11,640 --> 05:34:19,640
If you can go now with Debbie to this slide that shows all of the different capital improvement projects based on strategic plan.

2125
05:34:19,640 --> 05:34:25,640
When was our strategic planning was that in about a year and a half ago?

2126
05:34:25,640 --> 05:34:39,640
So, last February, two years ago. So, two years ago as a council, we decided that we were going to focus on some of these strategic plan capital improvement projects.

2127
05:34:39,640 --> 05:34:47,640
And like Debbie highlighted, many of these projects are things that are important to people who are sitting behind this dius in order to serve the residents of Anaheim.

2128
05:34:47,640 --> 05:34:54,640
We have the senior center and community center, which is 10 to 25 million. I know that's a priority of a couple people here.

2129
05:34:54,640 --> 05:35:06,640
Public pool aquatic center, 20 to 25 million are deferred maintenance, which is roads, highways, tree trimmings, these are things that are important to the people who I represent.

2130
05:35:06,640 --> 05:35:13,640
And we're doing a lot of construction in our city right now. That's ongoing expenses are 10 million annually.

2131
05:35:13,640 --> 05:35:24,640
We also have corridor beautification, which is a big deal because as people are coming into our city and not staying in hotels but potentially driving here and stay or parking in the structure and visiting.

2132
05:35:24,640 --> 05:35:27,640
They are being welcomed into corridors that are not pretty.

2133
05:35:27,640 --> 05:35:41,640
I represent now, it's beautiful, but I do represent a district that's right off of a main arterial freeway, the 91 where people might come off on harbor and could drive through there and it was not a beautiful site to see.

2134
05:35:41,640 --> 05:35:51,640
So I don't really think that's something that we want to bring our visitors to when they come to Anaheim they should fill safe across the entire city and not just at the resort.

2135
05:35:51,640 --> 05:35:59,640
So that I really want to make sure that my council colleagues understand how important this is.

2136
05:35:59,640 --> 05:36:15,640
And I do agree that I am grateful that we have the economic engine that we do, but I really, it's really hard for me to understand the argument that this with deterred development or her business when it's really not a negative impact on their bottom line.

2137
05:36:15,640 --> 05:36:22,640
A traveler coming here and spending $4. I mean they could reduce their prices if they really start to see that has a negative impact.

2138
05:36:22,640 --> 05:36:30,640
But they are focused on making sure their shareholders are taking care of and our most important shareholders are the residents of Anaheim.

2139
05:36:30,640 --> 05:36:43,640
So I think that even if we don't think this is a diversified revenue stream, we should at least allow the voters to decide if we want to send it to the voters and it's 1% or 2% I just really think that we should think this through.

2140
05:36:43,640 --> 05:36:54,640
Love the canyon idea, but we've been behind the status some of us three years and we haven't seen any movement that has generated a lot of revenue from the canyon. So I'm I'm open to other ideas, but I just think that.

2141
05:36:54,640 --> 05:37:01,640
I'm not the kind of policy maker that waits until we're in an economic crisis, but I do see the writing on the walls.

2142
05:37:01,640 --> 05:37:14,640
I do think that we need to be proactive so that we don't have to turn to possibly laying off employees or cutting off our tree trimming schedule, which we were able to increase more.

2143
05:37:14,640 --> 05:37:22,640
Or letting go first responders or delaying development of a fire station so I just think that we should be proactive.

2144
05:37:22,640 --> 05:37:36,640
Anaheim seems to have been a city of minimums so we are a minimum city so if we can get by that's what we've been able to do but the more revenue that we have the more that we can do for the residents of Anaheim, especially on the community services side.

2145
05:37:36,640 --> 05:37:42,640
I don't know about you guys but when we look at the budget community services has the least amount but they do the most work.

2146
05:37:42,640 --> 05:37:51,640
So I just wanted to keep that all on your radar. I know you don't see this as a diversified revenue stream, but it really is because it's not hitting our hotels.

2147
05:37:51,640 --> 05:37:59,640
We had somebody from the hotel association up here saying how people would stop staying in hotels and I don't agree with that.

2148
05:37:59,640 --> 05:38:10,640
This is not an increase to the TOT. This is an increase to a non-burdened admissions ticket or parking. So I just wanted to highlight that fact.

2149
05:38:13,640 --> 05:38:17,640
Thank you council member Bayless and then back to council member Hertz.

2150
05:38:19,640 --> 05:38:20,640
Thank you.

2151
05:38:20,640 --> 05:38:23,640
Let's take a maybe a little bit different approach.

2152
05:38:23,640 --> 05:38:26,640
In terms of diversified revenue, I'll just ask this.

2153
05:38:26,640 --> 05:38:35,640
If Disneyland were to close down, what does the estimated tax revenue from this bond or from this?

2154
05:38:35,640 --> 05:38:48,640
That information, I don't have, or do we have, do we do have that, right?

2155
05:38:48,640 --> 05:38:51,640
One moment.

2156
05:38:51,640 --> 05:39:02,640
I was concerned about confidentiality but I think we've got this all from public sources.

2157
05:39:02,640 --> 05:39:17,640
So the tourism tax would be zero without Disney.

2158
05:39:17,640 --> 05:39:20,640
Okay.

2159
05:39:20,640 --> 05:39:26,640
So the next question I'd like to ask is, and I'm curious, I see here that we've got the tourism tax.

2160
05:39:26,640 --> 05:39:34,640
We've got the parking tax both with an assumed approximately 20% margin of error.

2161
05:39:34,640 --> 05:39:50,640
So I'm just curious, how do we estimate the low and the high and then is the 20% error reflected between the 89 million to the 134 million or is it also included?

2162
05:39:50,640 --> 05:39:58,640
So if we go 20% of 89, it would decrease that number or increase the high.

2163
05:39:58,640 --> 05:40:07,640
We used publicly available documents to to make some assumptions and we estimated what that amount would be.

2164
05:40:07,640 --> 05:40:19,640
And then from there we added 20% and deducted 20% on the admissions piece just because there are a bunch of assumptions so we don't know if we're going to get that right.

2165
05:40:19,640 --> 05:40:48,640
So for example, example, this includes the Disneyland and Disney California and so for those theme parks we use the current ticket pass over pricing as of the 21st of October, including the single day park hopper of magic key passes we use the 2023 theme index attendance estimates and we assume that 50% of the visitors are magic.

2166
05:40:48,640 --> 05:41:00,640
Key pass holders assume 25 or single park and 25% or park hopper tickets. So we took that and we said add 20% that's a high end.

2167
05:41:00,640 --> 05:41:03,640
Minus 20% that's the low end.

2168
05:41:03,640 --> 05:41:14,640
So I apologize you were that was pretty quick for me. I was trying to write some stuff down, but you so I think what I heard was you're taking attendance for 2023.

2169
05:41:14,640 --> 05:41:24,640
Yes, I believe that's the most recent publicly available information and so you were I don't know what that number is but let's say it's just 20 million.

2170
05:41:24,640 --> 05:41:29,640
You said 50% of that 20 million is using the ticket pass holder.

2171
05:41:29,640 --> 05:41:32,640
Yes.

2172
05:41:32,640 --> 05:41:43,640
So I'm just curious when we get to the 20 million in attendance I'm just guessing I don't know this but when Disney records an entry through their gate.

2173
05:41:43,640 --> 05:41:49,640
It's not necessarily a paid entry if it is a pass holder. Is that right?

2174
05:41:49,640 --> 05:41:54,640
Correct. We're assuming that it's paid on the pass value.

2175
05:41:54,640 --> 05:42:05,640
So in that case then we so you deducted the 20 million by 50% which would you get us to 10 million and so then you took the 10 million and assume that a ticket holder pass was

2176
05:42:06,640 --> 05:42:12,640
100 bucks and then that's how you came with the estimate for where we're at.

2177
05:42:12,640 --> 05:42:18,640
Yes, we took all the available pricing information.

2178
05:42:18,640 --> 05:42:25,640
So we so this could this could I mean we've got 20% in here, but it sounds to me like it could possibly be more than 20%.

2179
05:42:25,640 --> 05:42:30,640
So we don't really know what this is what the actual dollar amount here is going to be.

2180
05:42:30,640 --> 05:42:35,640
That's the best reasonable estimate like it come up with.

2181
05:42:35,640 --> 05:42:48,640
And various folks have looked at some of the assumptions and find them to be reasonable.

2182
05:42:48,640 --> 05:42:55,640
The other thing I wanted to point out is that I believe my colleague to be correct.

2183
05:42:55,640 --> 05:43:07,640
I think that in two years we will be in a surplus and then what another two years after that it's possible we may not be in the surplus anymore.

2184
05:43:07,640 --> 05:43:10,640
I do believe that to be true.

2185
05:43:10,640 --> 05:43:19,640
And I noticed I've noticed also up here that you know we say we want all of these wonderful things and don't get me wrong.

2186
05:43:19,640 --> 05:43:31,640
I think we all absolutely do want these things but I think what we're missing a little bit in this discussion tonight is.

2187
05:43:31,640 --> 05:43:43,640
We also have to look at the expense side of the city budget and figure out where we are in expenses as well as a revenue stream that's coming in and I.

2188
05:43:43,640 --> 05:43:49,640
When I look at this if you tell me that we're going to increase the city budget by a hundred billion bucks.

2189
05:43:49,640 --> 05:43:57,640
Just by looking at this we are through that hundred million bucks in two years.

2190
05:43:57,640 --> 05:44:06,640
And that doesn't that didn't include necessarily you know hiring any more PD or any public infrastructure that's there so.

2191
05:44:06,640 --> 05:44:11,640
I mean I get that word I get that word there.

2192
05:44:11,640 --> 05:44:26,640
But we have to I think at the same time we have to take a look at expenses that are out there I mean I'll give you just two quick examples you know I think and maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong but.

2193
05:44:26,640 --> 05:44:31,640
Right now we're paying the bank fee on a credit card transaction.

2194
05:44:31,640 --> 05:44:34,640
And so what I mean by that is if a.

2195
05:44:34,640 --> 05:44:39,640
Class let's say is twenty dollars we end up eating.

2196
05:44:39,640 --> 05:44:46,640
What is it one point two to two percent roughly on a bank fee for that for that credit card transaction.

2197
05:44:46,640 --> 05:44:57,640
That could possibly be you know a form of revenue that gets passed on in terms of the bank fee to the to the resident which would generate more additional funds for us.

2198
05:44:57,640 --> 05:44:59,640
Another thing that.

2199
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:10,000
We looked at here a while back ago, and I can only tell you this because I'm in the industry, but the phones that we have on our desk here at City Hall is some outdated equipment.

2200
05:45:10,000 --> 05:45:29,000
And I know that if we speed up the priority factor in getting those replaced and into the new system, I think what I heard that night was, you know, the city is going to benefit by about $300,000 per year, but I mean, it's those small examples, it's those small things that I think we have to look at at the same exact time.

2201
05:45:30,000 --> 05:45:37,000
So that's my comments for right now. I have maybe a few more after I hear something else, but I'll let somebody else chat.

2202
05:45:37,000 --> 05:45:42,000
Thank you. Council member Kurtz and then Council member Laylen.

2203
05:45:42,000 --> 05:45:51,000
Okay. This is noted as a citywide entertainment and parking tax.

2204
05:45:51,000 --> 05:45:59,000
I'm a little confused at how it would work with a stadium, and I know people that try to explain it, but can you explain to me?

2205
05:45:59,000 --> 05:46:10,000
I go to the stadium. I purchased a ticket. It would have a tax on it. My parking fee would have a tax on it.

2206
05:46:10,000 --> 05:46:15,000
The angels collect it, and then what happens?

2207
05:46:15,000 --> 05:46:19,000
I think that's to be determined to be honest.

2208
05:46:19,000 --> 05:46:28,000
How that would work, because we do have a unique situation with angel stadium, and so how we would arrange that situation,

2209
05:46:28,000 --> 05:46:33,000
where there to be a parking or admission tax, would to be determined.

2210
05:46:33,000 --> 05:46:42,000
But I think the provision that's in the 1996 lease is intended to essentially make the angels hold,

2211
05:46:42,000 --> 05:46:49,000
where they can be charged a parking or admissions tax in the future, how we would do that, I think, is to be determined.

2212
05:46:49,000 --> 05:46:55,000
Because I was looking at our thinking about it and thinking, okay, just making up these numbers.

2213
05:46:55,000 --> 05:47:03,000
I pay $20 for a ticket and then I get an extra dollar of tax. So I pay $21.

2214
05:47:03,000 --> 05:47:09,000
They collect it. They give a dollar back to the city or give a call.

2215
05:47:09,000 --> 05:47:17,000
It's collected tax so they give a dollar to the city, then we give it back to the angels, and now they're a dollar richer.

2216
05:47:17,000 --> 05:47:24,000
I don't think that's the intent of that provision, right? So that's why I'm saying I think that's to be determined how we would actually do that.

2217
05:47:24,000 --> 05:47:31,000
I mean, I know when this issue came up back in 2022, there was talk about getting that dollar back to the patron.

2218
05:47:31,000 --> 05:47:45,000
But I would think that we would figure out some arrangement with them, like we do sometimes with other situations that are a little bit unusual in our tax code to ensure that the intent of the arrangement we have with them is,

2219
05:47:45,000 --> 05:47:51,000
you know, secured. So how we do that we would not know at this point.

2220
05:47:51,000 --> 05:47:54,000
And the intent is that it doesn't affect the angels.

2221
05:47:54,000 --> 05:48:02,000
So my safe and assume that the only entity it affects is Disney and it's parking.

2222
05:48:02,000 --> 05:48:11,000
Yeah, I mean, there's also, it's mentioned in the staff report and to the extent we were to get into a deeper dive into this issue.

2223
05:48:11,000 --> 05:48:14,000
It would probably better discussion and close session.

2224
05:48:14,000 --> 05:48:29,000
But there's other arguments that surround that issue that, you know, again, it's just, it's not reasonable to include the revenues from the angel stadium as part of the overall revenues for the city.

2225
05:48:29,000 --> 05:48:35,000
But it doesn't mean it's out of the question and we would look at different arguments once this became a reality.

2226
05:48:35,000 --> 05:48:45,000
That's to whether or not the provision and the angel stadium applies to the situation and if it does, how do we, how do we implement that?

2227
05:48:45,000 --> 05:48:48,000
I'm puzzled in how do we vote on something.

2228
05:48:48,000 --> 05:49:00,000
We don't know because if it's single entity affected, isn't there a, is there in fact a state law that prohibits us from taxing a single entity?

2229
05:49:00,000 --> 05:49:21,000
Not necessarily, but there is the, the agreements we have with both OC vibe and with Disneyland four that require applicable taxes to be citywide, which, you know, like we said, both in the staff report and in my, my verbal presentation is subject to some interpretation.

2230
05:49:21,000 --> 05:49:25,000
So, you know, we would argue that this is a citywide tax.

2231
05:49:25,000 --> 05:49:33,000
I'm sure they would raise another argument and then we'd fight that, that fight at, that's some later point.

2232
05:49:33,000 --> 05:49:36,000
Thank you.

2233
05:49:36,000 --> 05:49:38,000
That's all I have for now.

2234
05:49:38,000 --> 05:49:41,000
Councilmember Layon.

2235
05:49:41,000 --> 05:49:48,000
Thank you, Madam Mayor. A few questions. Debbie on this slide, can you explain this slide for me?

2236
05:49:48,000 --> 05:49:51,000
Well, what does annual debt service mean?

2237
05:49:51,000 --> 05:49:59,000
How does that relate to the, the numbers that are inside the circles on the slide? Can you double a little bit deeper in detail?

2238
05:49:59,000 --> 05:50:04,000
Certainly. So, if we take the community center or the senior center.

2239
05:50:04,000 --> 05:50:11,000
So, one of those facilities is going to cost somewhere between 10 and 25 million.

2240
05:50:11,000 --> 05:50:18,000
So, we could either pay for it all at one time or if you wanted to bond.

2241
05:50:18,000 --> 05:50:27,000
We could, we would assume that annual debt service might run about 10% of the total costs.

2242
05:50:27,000 --> 05:50:36,000
So, that, so then annually it would cost between one and two and a half million just for the facility.

2243
05:50:36,000 --> 05:50:48,000
And then roughly 100,000 for programming staffing maintenance things like that for each of the facilities.

2244
05:50:48,000 --> 05:51:00,000
Okay, and is that something that you would recommend if we wanted to move forward with these so that instead of having to pay 25 million dollars for a new senior center.

2245
05:51:00,000 --> 05:51:07,000
We could potentially look at one or 2.5 million to pay for that over time.

2246
05:51:07,000 --> 05:51:11,000
It's, again, a policy decision based on all the things you want to do.

2247
05:51:11,000 --> 05:51:14,000
What the interest rate environment are.

2248
05:51:14,000 --> 05:51:17,000
And so, that's going to be a policy decision.

2249
05:51:17,000 --> 05:51:26,000
Okay, thank you. Greg, do you have any information or do we have any information as to potentially what other cities are currently facing?

2250
05:51:26,000 --> 05:51:38,000
You can't speak in detail about other cities necessarily, but what, what are sort of the financial situations in comparison?

2251
05:51:38,000 --> 05:51:48,000
Yeah, and I'm sure many of you have read reports of our neighboring cities and cities across California, frankly, or the country.

2252
05:51:48,000 --> 05:51:54,000
All dealing with rising costs and revenues that aren't necessarily keeping up.

2253
05:51:54,000 --> 05:52:00,000
So we're not alone in having a structural deficit. I know other cities around us have a structural deficit.

2254
05:52:00,000 --> 05:52:04,000
I think a lot of us have heard about orange.

2255
05:52:04,000 --> 05:52:10,000
They're dealing with a significant deficit currently, saying Anna as well.

2256
05:52:10,000 --> 05:52:17,000
They have an expiring sales tax that's going to hit them pretty hard and so they're trying to strategize and figure out how to deal with that when that comes.

2257
05:52:17,000 --> 05:52:22,000
That would be each and fuller to and also each dealing with their own deficit situations.

2258
05:52:22,000 --> 05:52:32,000
And so, I think, you know, and hearing from the League of Cities as well, it's kind of like a wave washing over a lot of the local cities just dealing with rising costs.

2259
05:52:32,000 --> 05:52:37,000
Now, everyone has different strategies and how to deal with that.

2260
05:52:37,000 --> 05:52:46,000
But I can tell you, I'm not aware of any city that has a situation like ours where we have an LPMR pay off coming that is going to, you know, basically reverse our structural deficit.

2261
05:52:46,000 --> 05:52:50,000
And turn into a positive overnight in 27.

2262
05:52:50,000 --> 05:53:02,000
I think many cities around us who are dealing with their own issues would love to have our situation to be perfectly honest and have a pay off like we have coming.

2263
05:53:02,000 --> 05:53:07,000
They need to look at new strategies, new revenues right now.

2264
05:53:07,000 --> 05:53:14,000
We have a pay off that's coming that doesn't necessarily necessitate that today.

2265
05:53:14,000 --> 05:53:19,000
But as has been discussed, something that we can look at in the future.

2266
05:53:19,000 --> 05:53:38,000
So yeah, again, to your point, I don't want to get into the individual budgets of every single city around us because I'm not familiar exactly with with their exact number and their exact strategies, but I just do know that is definitely a pattern that is starting to hit cities all over.

2267
05:53:38,000 --> 05:53:44,000
And we're uniquely positioned over the next couple years to deal with our situation.

2268
05:53:44,000 --> 05:53:48,000
And it'll be interesting to see how cities around us deal with their situation.

2269
05:53:48,000 --> 05:53:52,000
Thank you.

2270
05:53:52,000 --> 05:54:01,000
You mentioned the when the LPMR bonds get paid off that we are essentially going from a structural deficit to a budget surplus.

2271
05:54:01,000 --> 05:54:07,000
Can you remind me what that surplus could potentially be?

2272
05:54:07,000 --> 05:54:17,000
So based on the adopted budget, I think it was roughly 60, 7 million.

2273
05:54:17,000 --> 05:54:29,000
So that, yeah, 65, so I think, you know, that's going to be somewhere 60,000,000 year after we pay off.

2274
05:54:29,000 --> 05:54:36,000
And Jim, have we made any decisions as to how we're going to spend those surplus funds?

2275
05:54:36,000 --> 05:54:39,000
We have not that will be part of a strategic plan.

2276
05:54:39,000 --> 05:54:42,000
Discussion on climate having on November 18th.

2277
05:54:42,000 --> 05:54:44,000
Got it. Okay. Thank you.

2278
05:54:44,000 --> 05:54:50,000
As it relates to this, we're currently discussing.

2279
05:54:50,000 --> 05:55:00,000
Are there any oversight mechanisms or any reporting that could assure or ensure residents that?

2280
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:04,000
That can ensure residents how this revenue is used.

2281
05:55:04,000 --> 05:55:09,000
I know that the ballot language has the potentials of what it could be spent on.

2282
05:55:09,000 --> 05:55:16,000
But is there any plan as part of the ballot as to what specifically would be spent on?

2283
05:55:16,000 --> 05:55:21,000
And then is there an oversight mechanism as part of this in relation to that?

2284
05:55:21,000 --> 05:55:33,000
It would have to be for general fund. The ballot language reflects what other similar ballot measures do in explaining what general fund dollars can be used for.

2285
05:55:33,000 --> 05:55:44,000
But otherwise, if you make it, you know, applicable to certain purposes, whatever they may be becomes potentially a special tax and requires a few thirds vote.

2286
05:55:44,000 --> 05:55:47,000
It can be done, but it has a higher threshold to pass.

2287
05:55:47,000 --> 05:55:55,000
So then as it is right now, there wouldn't necessarily be a guarantee as to how these additional revenues would be spent.

2288
05:55:55,000 --> 05:55:58,000
It would be up to the discretion as to who's up here on the desk.

2289
05:55:58,000 --> 05:55:59,000
That's correct.

2290
05:55:59,000 --> 05:56:15,000
So it would be fair to say that if this were to go to voters, if this were to get approved, that there really is no guarantee that we're going to be spending all these funds on 17 new officers or we're going to spend this on all the community services.

2291
05:56:16,000 --> 05:56:25,000
Yeah, that's fair to say under the current proposal, which is intended to be a general tax and therefore go into the general fund.

2292
05:56:25,000 --> 05:56:38,000
To the extent that the council wants to spell out specifics on where the additional funds should go, then you're crossing line into a special tax, which you can do, but it does require two thirds vote for approval.

2293
05:56:38,000 --> 05:56:41,000
But would that be for the city of Adam?

2294
05:56:41,000 --> 05:56:43,000
What would we be?

2295
05:56:43,000 --> 05:56:45,000
The two thirds.

2296
05:56:45,000 --> 05:56:46,000
I'm not sure.

2297
05:56:46,000 --> 05:56:49,000
It's two thirds of whoever vote.

2298
05:56:49,000 --> 05:56:52,000
So depending on turnout, it would be two thirds of the turnout.

2299
05:56:52,000 --> 05:56:53,000
Okay.

2300
05:56:53,000 --> 05:56:54,000
Got it.

2301
05:56:54,000 --> 05:56:55,000
Okay.

2302
05:56:55,000 --> 05:56:59,000
Thank you.

2303
05:56:59,000 --> 05:57:00,000
Thank you.

2304
05:57:00,000 --> 05:57:05,000
I wanted to just kind of follow up on something that council member.

2305
05:57:05,000 --> 05:57:09,000
Courts brought up just in the language.

2306
05:57:09,000 --> 05:57:15,000
So are you saying that for the admission tax ballot language?

2307
05:57:15,000 --> 05:57:20,000
We could tax the angels on tickets.

2308
05:57:20,000 --> 05:57:27,000
But the parking would have to be rebated or would they both have to be rebated?

2309
05:57:27,000 --> 05:57:31,000
The least covers both parking and admissions.

2310
05:57:31,000 --> 05:57:37,000
So to the extent it applies, that language applies to apply to both of those measures.

2311
05:57:37,000 --> 05:57:43,000
Under the current landscape, obviously we don't know what new businesses are going to come to Anaheim.

2312
05:57:43,000 --> 05:57:48,000
But under the current landscape, does this admission tax?

2313
05:57:48,000 --> 05:57:53,000
Who does this admission tax apply to?

2314
05:57:53,000 --> 05:57:58,000
How many businesses in the city of Anaheim?

2315
05:57:59,000 --> 05:58:02,000
Angels with that big caveat.

2316
05:58:02,000 --> 05:58:09,000
And Disneyland in California adventures, I believe.

2317
05:58:09,000 --> 05:58:15,000
It would also, it would not apply to the Convention Center because it only applies to privately owned or operated.

2318
05:58:15,000 --> 05:58:20,000
And it wouldn't apply to OC Vive because it is under 20,000 people capacity.

2319
05:58:20,000 --> 05:58:23,000
It would not apply to the arena that's my understanding, yes.

2320
05:58:23,000 --> 05:58:27,000
Okay.

2321
05:58:27,000 --> 05:58:40,000
And I guess that's the concern that I have is that we as a council sat here and went through during a long period of time,

2322
05:58:40,000 --> 05:58:51,000
going through Disneyland forward, raising a lot of these concerns and issues, asking for investment on the priorities of this council,

2323
05:58:51,000 --> 05:58:54,000
at the time we're housing and parks.

2324
05:58:54,000 --> 05:58:58,000
And we came to an agreement and we voted for it.

2325
05:58:58,000 --> 05:59:09,000
And so to do this at this time, I'm just concerned about, as I said, the city's reputation for bargaining in good faith.

2326
05:59:09,000 --> 05:59:12,000
I am a huge supporter of our unions.

2327
05:59:12,000 --> 05:59:15,000
I'm a huge supporter of our hospitality unions.

2328
05:59:15,000 --> 05:59:20,000
And I just feel that if a hospitality union entered into a contract with a hotel,

2329
05:59:20,000 --> 05:59:31,000
that came with higher wages and benefits, and then a month later went on strike, people on this bias would lose their minds.

2330
05:59:31,000 --> 05:59:38,000
Because it would be a violation of a contract that they entered into under fair labor practices.

2331
05:59:38,000 --> 05:59:45,000
So to for us to then not respect the bargaining period in the bargaining process that we went through,

2332
05:59:45,000 --> 05:59:53,000
I just struggle with that and our reputation as being a place that attracts outside investment.

2333
05:59:53,000 --> 06:00:00,000
And I do just disagree, I guess, a bit the way I read it, for the whole premise that this is a...

2334
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:07,720
Citywide tax considering that it only is going to apply to one business. It would be to me, like me,

2335
06:00:07,720 --> 06:00:15,800
putting forward a tax measure that applies citywide to all privately operated companies that have a

2336
06:00:15,800 --> 06:00:26,680
fairer squeal over 125 feet. Citywide. Well, we know that that is only going to be one business. And so I just

2337
06:00:26,680 --> 06:00:32,240
don't think that that is going along with what our development agreement was. I don't think that

2338
06:00:32,240 --> 06:00:37,600
it's bargaining in good faith. And I really don't think that it does anything for the city's

2339
06:00:37,600 --> 06:00:45,240
reputation as being a place to do business with and keep our word. So, I mean, I struggle with

2340
06:00:45,240 --> 06:00:55,880
this. And right now, I haven't been moved to support this as of yet, because I just don't

2341
06:00:55,880 --> 06:01:00,920
think it's, it's in the best interest of our city. I do agree with my council colleagues that

2342
06:01:00,920 --> 06:01:08,120
have talked about diversifying our tax base. I know that we are waiting for some reports and strategic

2343
06:01:08,120 --> 06:01:16,800
plans for our economic development department to see how we can attract new businesses into Anaheim.

2344
06:01:16,800 --> 06:01:23,400
Have we made the progress that we would like to? No, we haven't. I think that the economy, especially

2345
06:01:23,400 --> 06:01:29,720
going into a possible recession is tough for a lot of cities in counties, not just Anaheim,

2346
06:01:29,720 --> 06:01:34,920
what I like to keep exploring, what I like to keep aggressively going after other businesses to come

2347
06:01:34,920 --> 06:01:41,880
into the to the canyon. Yes, I don't think that we keep going back to the same well, because that

2348
06:01:41,880 --> 06:01:50,440
well will dry up. And I know that we have a lot of needs, but I just, but this whole discussion,

2349
06:01:50,440 --> 06:01:55,880
I just keep thinking about something my grandmother used to always say was that pigs get fat and

2350
06:01:55,880 --> 06:02:03,400
hogs get slaughtered. And so we can, you know, keep trying to work with our partners and work with our

2351
06:02:03,400 --> 06:02:09,640
resort community and work with our business leaders to attract more investment, or we can, we can

2352
06:02:09,640 --> 06:02:18,360
bleed them dry. I don't think doing this approach is going to be better for us. I'd rather explore

2353
06:02:18,360 --> 06:02:24,200
the councilmember Bayels' point, tightening our belts, making sure like every family and Anaheim

2354
06:02:24,200 --> 06:02:30,920
is having to tighten their belts right now. I'd rather look at us tightening our belts than doing

2355
06:02:30,920 --> 06:02:36,440
something that's to me is just a bit short-sighted and not in the city's best interest. So with that,

2356
06:02:36,440 --> 06:02:40,280
I think councilmember Leon, I don't know if you still have further comments and then councilmember

2357
06:02:40,520 --> 06:02:52,760
Rubikala. I guess my comment to that is, I mean, the hogs have not been slaughtered, they

2358
06:02:52,760 --> 06:02:58,520
continue to thrive in our city, except for the residents. But mayor, you bring up good points.

2359
06:02:59,640 --> 06:03:04,120
You are welcome to make amendments to this bill or to this policy that I'm bringing forward,

2360
06:03:04,120 --> 06:03:09,880
but to just kill it completely because you feel like it doesn't meet your expectations,

2361
06:03:10,360 --> 06:03:17,640
it's a little short-sighted. In my opinion, but I do want to go back to a couple of things. So Debbie,

2362
06:03:17,640 --> 06:03:25,240
if you could also go back to look at, so you mentioned councilmember Leon or no actually Greg,

2363
06:03:25,240 --> 06:03:31,000
you mentioned councilmember Leon that once the LPMRs paid off, we're going to be in a surplus. But that

2364
06:03:31,000 --> 06:03:37,640
other slide indicated that we would be in a deficit by 2020-9 so which isn't. And that's assuming a

2365
06:03:37,640 --> 06:03:43,720
5% increase in labor costs. I don't anticipate that we won't have any labor costs that are increasing.

2366
06:03:44,920 --> 06:03:50,040
Yeah, so on all the scenarios, once LPMR pays off, we will have a surplus.

2367
06:03:51,400 --> 06:03:56,440
Then there's another scenario that we tried to put in front of you that just showed basically our

2368
06:03:56,440 --> 06:04:01,640
house increases. And so it's not until 2030 that there could be structural deficit. Again,

2369
06:04:01,640 --> 06:04:05,720
could be because there's so many other factors that need to be taken in consideration.

2370
06:04:06,920 --> 06:04:12,760
And in that scenario, it's a $1 million structural deficit with 10% reserves still.

2371
06:04:12,760 --> 06:04:15,080
Right, which any deficit is not a good deficit, right?

2372
06:04:15,080 --> 06:04:19,560
Well, of course. Because everybody's home budget we want to either have a surplus.

2373
06:04:20,840 --> 06:04:23,000
And then you can get my answers. Both could be true.

2374
06:04:23,000 --> 06:04:27,000
Okay. There is definitely a surplus, but there could also definitely be a difference in the future.

2375
06:04:27,560 --> 06:04:32,120
And then you noted Debbie, the reserves they are declining in that 5-year forecast would be.

2376
06:04:32,680 --> 06:04:35,000
So why are reserves important for a city?

2377
06:04:38,040 --> 06:04:42,120
Because as we've indicated 70% of our budget goes to

2378
06:04:44,200 --> 06:04:51,800
paying for the services that the residents get. And so the reserves allow us to weather a storm.

2379
06:04:52,760 --> 06:05:00,440
It takes a long time to turn a big ship. And so unless you want to drastically impact

2380
06:05:01,800 --> 06:05:07,800
services that are important to the community, you want to have reserves to be able to weather that storm

2381
06:05:07,800 --> 06:05:15,800
and adjust thoughtfully. And doesn't that also include securing bonds? So our bond rating is better if we

2382
06:05:15,800 --> 06:05:22,760
have more reserves. Is that correct? Typically, that's correct, but it's going to depend on lots of

2383
06:05:22,760 --> 06:05:28,600
other factors as well. But Anaheim historically, obviously we took out the bond for Disney to build that

2384
06:05:28,600 --> 06:05:32,920
structure historically has a good bond rating and secures a really good.

2385
06:05:35,640 --> 06:05:39,400
So is that correct? We have traditionally had

2386
06:05:39,480 --> 06:05:48,120
a ratings of the A category for the city. Okay. And those capital improvement projects I know,

2387
06:05:48,760 --> 06:05:53,560
I agree with Council Member Bayless in terms of looking at our expenses. But I'm pretty sure that's

2388
06:05:53,560 --> 06:05:59,080
what we do every budget cycle. When we look at the budget and approve it, we're looking at what

2389
06:05:59,080 --> 06:06:04,520
expenses could be cut. We're looking at what departments are. And most of the departments are flat.

2390
06:06:04,520 --> 06:06:10,600
Year over year, we're asking them to do more with less. So I agree with you if we could cut expenses

2391
06:06:10,600 --> 06:06:15,160
by changing at our phones, we should. And that's something that I hope by Council colleagues will

2392
06:06:15,160 --> 06:06:20,840
bring to the table. But with this initiative, I brought a solution. I haven't heard any other solutions

2393
06:06:20,840 --> 06:06:27,240
except for this one doesn't work. So I hope that you all will come back with some ideas other than the

2394
06:06:27,240 --> 06:06:32,760
Canyon because I don't see the Canyon generating a significant amount of revenue like I do this

2395
06:06:32,760 --> 06:06:41,080
initiative. So when we go back to our community and we cannot fund proper services or we have to say no

2396
06:06:41,080 --> 06:06:47,000
to certain things, including public safety and decreasing our response times or getting dispatchers

2397
06:06:47,000 --> 06:06:52,440
properly paid so we're not losing them to the city of Irvine and giving a better experience for our

2398
06:06:52,440 --> 06:06:57,480
residents, I want you all to remember the fact that we didn't come with any other solution than this,

2399
06:06:57,480 --> 06:07:03,960
but nobody was willing to even talk about adopting one of these measures. It could have just been

2400
06:07:03,960 --> 06:07:10,200
the parking. It could have been a reduced three to one percent. So I just want to remind my colleagues.

2401
06:07:10,200 --> 06:07:15,000
I appreciate the opportunity to have this discussion, but I would like to continue this, Jim and

2402
06:07:15,000 --> 06:07:21,880
ask staff to do an economic impact study that would review what the options would be including a

2403
06:07:21,880 --> 06:07:27,960
sales tax utility tax and the impact on our residents if that were to be implemented.

2404
06:07:29,080 --> 06:07:34,680
If I could get a second that would be great on the on the or do I need a second for that or can I just

2405
06:07:34,680 --> 06:07:46,200
ask staff to do it? I'm pushing the wrong button. So I'm not sure so the motion is to have a

2406
06:07:46,200 --> 06:07:56,600
impact study with regard to. I think I heard several of my colleagues say that they don't

2407
06:07:56,600 --> 06:08:02,520
understand the impact even though I think staff did a great job for casting what this would have on our

2408
06:08:02,520 --> 06:08:08,840
city resources. So I don't know if somebody thinks that it would be worthwhile to actually have a

2409
06:08:08,840 --> 06:08:14,360
paid for economic impact study and then also look at what a sales tax initiative would do not only to

2410
06:08:14,360 --> 06:08:19,560
the general fund, but also how it could potentially hurt business in Anaheim. So I'm a little concerned

2411
06:08:19,560 --> 06:08:23,960
that it might run a foul of what's been agendas for this meeting. Certainly something you could

2412
06:08:23,960 --> 06:08:28,760
agendas for the next meeting and then have the council take a vote on it and that's my concern.

2413
06:08:29,960 --> 06:08:36,760
Okay, and then I just want to leave with this. Florida has admissions tickets are all included in sales

2414
06:08:36,760 --> 06:08:42,600
tax. So perhaps the state will come in and do that for us and then we'll get our 1% of every dollar

2415
06:08:42,680 --> 06:08:48,520
because Florida's gate has not been impacted they actually are continuing to thrive. So the fact that

2416
06:08:48,520 --> 06:08:53,880
we've all come here and talked about how it would hurt business or even fathom the fact that Disney could

2417
06:08:53,880 --> 06:08:59,960
possibly pick up and move away is ridiculous. We know they're not moving to Arizona. We know they're

2418
06:08:59,960 --> 06:09:04,680
not going to limit development and I'm just saying that we need to do the right thing for the residents of Anaheim

2419
06:09:04,680 --> 06:09:08,920
and with those capital improvement projects that we would be able to fund here. It would generate

2420
06:09:08,920 --> 06:09:15,480
jobs for our local trades as well as the residents of Anaheim and create more opportunities for

2421
06:09:15,480 --> 06:09:22,280
the people here to thrive. So with that, I guess I will ask for a motion. Well, so just look

2422
06:09:22,280 --> 06:09:28,440
away. Let me run the meeting, please. We have other people that have like to raise comments,

2423
06:09:28,440 --> 06:09:37,080
both with council member Maz and then council member Leon. I guess I'll go first.

2424
06:09:39,560 --> 06:09:45,240
Just a quick note and maybe I'm misunderstood. The point of this conversation was about a specific

2425
06:09:45,240 --> 06:09:51,320
tax measure and not bringing forth ideas. I've talked about some ideas with the city manager about

2426
06:09:51,320 --> 06:09:59,880
maybe attracting film production in Anaheim or maybe digitizing billboards for revenue stream many ideas.

2427
06:09:59,880 --> 06:10:06,280
So I don't know my mistake in that this is a platform for all of our ideas. Or is this just about the tax?

2428
06:10:08,920 --> 06:10:13,720
Discussion was specifically about this tax, but your ideas are always welcome for this

2429
06:10:13,720 --> 06:10:19,560
dias to address. Thank you. And then just for our residents who may be listening,

2430
06:10:20,600 --> 06:10:26,360
a vote against this measure is not a reflection about a lack of desire for a community center or a

2431
06:10:26,360 --> 06:10:33,720
senior center. I see as a taxes a last resort and I think there are possibilities to achieving our

2432
06:10:33,720 --> 06:10:39,880
goals outside of this tax. So when I think of a senior center, specifically I'm thinking of partnering

2433
06:10:39,880 --> 06:10:48,360
with health plans or foundations, but I think there's opportunities outside of placing a tax on

2434
06:10:48,360 --> 06:10:53,480
working families. So that's all I have to say. Thank you, council member Leon.

2435
06:10:54,520 --> 06:10:59,720
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Again, I want to thank everybody that came to speak today and as we continue

2436
06:10:59,720 --> 06:11:03,480
this conversation I do also thank my colleague for bringing this discussion forward.

2437
06:11:05,560 --> 06:11:10,920
As a city, our priority must always be about finding solutions that work for everybody, especially

2438
06:11:10,920 --> 06:11:16,440
our residents. And I do want to ensure that our employees from our police officers and firefighters

2439
06:11:16,440 --> 06:11:22,600
to our public works, our entire city staff, I want you to be among the highest paid and the best

2440
06:11:22,600 --> 06:11:29,000
supported in the region. I want you to have all the tools and resources that you need to keep us safe,

2441
06:11:29,560 --> 06:11:34,440
to keep us healthy and thriving and absolutely we need to make sure that our neighborhoods are healthy.

2442
06:11:36,040 --> 06:11:41,400
But also I resort district as well. I want our tourism industry here in Orange County and I'm strong.

2443
06:11:42,120 --> 06:11:48,680
Whether we like it or not, the resort district is a lifeline. It gives us the opportunity to do a lot of

2444
06:11:48,680 --> 06:11:53,960
of the things that we do. And this isn't anything that I haven't said before, I want our resort

2445
06:11:53,960 --> 06:11:59,320
district to be successful. At the same time we have a responsibility to focus on our core city

2446
06:11:59,320 --> 06:12:03,800
obligations. And one thing Mr. City Manager that you'll be hearing from me as we discuss those

2447
06:12:03,800 --> 06:12:10,760
LPMR bonds is neighborhoods neighborhoods. How can we continue to maintain public safety, keep our

2448
06:12:10,760 --> 06:12:16,360
parks clean and welcoming, providing essential services that directly impact residents daily lives

2449
06:12:16,440 --> 06:12:23,240
and invest in our neighborhoods and communities. And so I want to hear what are our additional

2450
06:12:23,240 --> 06:12:30,520
options. I appreciate that we've looked at some of the options are there other ones. So I want to see

2451
06:12:30,520 --> 06:12:35,000
what those additional options might be and maybe that's something that we can look at when we're talking

2452
06:12:35,000 --> 06:12:42,200
about the LPMR bonds to see if there are other alternatives that might be able to be used to keep our

2453
06:12:42,200 --> 06:12:47,400
community safe, the resort district thriving, our budget healthy, allow us the opportunity to make

2454
06:12:47,400 --> 06:12:55,080
investments in our community. And we have time, not a lot of time, but time nonetheless. With OPMR

2455
06:12:55,080 --> 06:13:01,160
bonds paying off in a few years, our structural deficit turns into a surplus. And we don't yet know

2456
06:13:01,160 --> 06:13:07,240
how we're going to allocate those surplus funds. And I want to make sure that we have a plan that we have

2457
06:13:07,240 --> 06:13:12,120
clear accountability that we have transparent plans tangible benefits for our residents or neighborhoods

2458
06:13:12,120 --> 06:13:19,080
and absolutely our employees. We're not able to do what we do without you. And you do a lot of work

2459
06:13:19,080 --> 06:13:25,640
for our residents, 100%. I also have a responsibility to make constituents to make decisions that help us

2460
06:13:25,640 --> 06:13:31,480
meet our financial needs and obligations without necessarily placing an under burden on those same

2461
06:13:31,480 --> 06:13:37,080
constituents, especially in the situation that we're in. We need to continue exploring all of our

2462
06:13:37,080 --> 06:13:42,360
options. We need to make sure we do all of our homework that we look at all and any alternatives.

2463
06:13:42,360 --> 06:13:48,360
And then assess what it is that we need to do to continue to invest in our residents, in the people,

2464
06:13:48,360 --> 06:13:54,280
in the services, in the infrastructure, everything that makes Anaheim the safe and vibrant community that it is.

2465
06:13:54,680 --> 06:13:58,680
Thank you, Councilmember Beales.

2466
06:13:58,680 --> 06:14:04,680
Thank you. I just want to say one thing, especially since you looked over here when you said,

2467
06:14:04,680 --> 06:14:10,600
is Disneyland going away? And I just want to point out that I don't think Disneyland is going anywhere,

2468
06:14:10,600 --> 06:14:16,840
at least I hope they're not. And that wasn't my intent by pointing out what happens if Disneyland shuts off.

2469
06:14:16,840 --> 06:14:22,200
My point is, is if we go into another pandemic again, is that a revenue stream that is solely

2470
06:14:22,200 --> 06:14:26,520
dependent on entertainment and it is. And so it was my idea to say, look, when you talk about

2471
06:14:26,520 --> 06:14:36,360
diversification, it's more than just one category of business. So that was my intent to point that out,

2472
06:14:36,360 --> 06:14:45,080
not to say that Disneyland is going to stop being around. But I'll just say that I can't in good

2473
06:14:45,080 --> 06:14:50,280
conscience ask our residents or our key economic partners to take on new costs before we've done

2474
06:14:50,280 --> 06:14:56,120
our best to take a hard and honest look inward. You know, we as a city and also we as a

2475
06:14:56,120 --> 06:15:02,360
city council have to demonstrate that we are managing the existing reef.

2476
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:25,000
I would like to see, you know, we mentioned earlier, at least I did, maybe a comprehensive citywide review across all of the departments, and I'm new. So I know, I hear everybody said we've discussed this before. I wasn't on those panels, so I'm new to hear. But anyways, across every department, where we can reduce expenditures, make good smart choices, it's streamlined operations and modernized.

2477
06:15:25,000 --> 06:15:40,000
And hopefully as we do that, I want to be clear those reductions should be smart and strategic, made in a way that do not significantly impact service levels for our residents and businesses.

2478
06:15:40,000 --> 06:15:49,000
At the same time, we need to conduct studies of creative options that could help create additional or increase dreams of potential revenue that don't rely on new taxes.

2479
06:15:49,000 --> 06:16:03,000
You know, for example, you mentioned maybe bringing the redevelopment and service fees up to current market rates, you know, could generate meaningful revenue without burning the public this out there.

2480
06:16:03,000 --> 06:16:18,000
I know we've got a wonderful economic development team out there. You know, I'd like to put them to work. I'm sure they can provide additional insights and options as to where areas that we can look to generate additional revenue before we go with the tax route that's out there.

2481
06:16:18,000 --> 06:16:29,000
So in short, I just want to say, you know, I'm not opposed to finding new revenue solutions, but we need to do it the right way with complete understanding of our expenditures and also opportunities for efficiencies.

2482
06:16:29,000 --> 06:16:34,000
So I want to say.

2483
06:16:34,000 --> 06:16:39,000
Thank you. Councilmember Rubikolva.

2484
06:16:39,000 --> 06:16:50,000
I just want to thank my council colleagues for taking the opportunity to review this. At this time, I will not be asking for a motion. I would like to just continue this item until further notice.

2485
06:16:50,000 --> 06:16:56,000
But I do want to acknowledge the fact that this was dead on arrival. I mean, I needed five votes.

2486
06:16:56,000 --> 06:17:04,000
I know where my council colleague Natalie makes comes from because that's her philosophical belief and we are we understand each other in that way.

2487
06:17:04,000 --> 06:17:11,000
And then seeing the mayor's article was a precursor to the determination of this outcome.

2488
06:17:11,000 --> 06:17:21,000
So unfortunately, we will have to go back to the drawing board and look for solutions, but I did hear a lot of people talk about, you know, cutting expenses or looking for alternative solutions.

2489
06:17:21,000 --> 06:17:38,000
And I hope that we will explore those options in the near future to see if it's really something that can help fund our general fund for long term sustainability for the largest city in the county of Orange with the most of what the most populous economic engine.

2490
06:17:38,000 --> 06:17:46,000
So with that, I would just like to continue the item city attorney. Can we continue to a date uncertain or do we need to table.

2491
06:17:46,000 --> 06:17:55,000
Okay, so in order to continue or continue to do a date uncertain or to table, it will require a motion in a second.

2492
06:17:55,000 --> 06:18:06,000
And then, so whatever the intent of the motion maker is is to continue to specific date continue to do a date uncertain or to table the item.

2493
06:18:06,000 --> 06:18:10,000
Yeah, I'll table it. Second, bring it back to different form of I need to.

2494
06:18:10,000 --> 06:18:20,000
Yes, so table can only be brought back in this meeting, so then you would have to re agendize another item at either today or later meeting if that's what your intent is.

2495
06:18:20,000 --> 06:18:28,000
If the if it's not taking off the table today at this meeting, then it basically dies, so then you would have to re agendize another item.

2496
06:18:28,000 --> 06:18:42,000
But I should I should say our council policy indicates that there needs to in less the council wants to make an exception that there needs to be a six month at least six months before an item is brought back after any actions taken including a table.

2497
06:18:42,000 --> 06:18:52,000
So I sounds like if you want to have further discussion or this item would be more of a motion to continue, but I'm not sure if that is your intent or not.

2498
06:18:53,000 --> 06:19:07,000
I mean I can call if it's going to be six months regardless, which doesn't really make sense, Rob, if you could double check that because I thought that if we took a motion and the motion failed that is when it would come back in six months, but a continuation would come back for discussion.

2499
06:19:07,000 --> 06:19:08,000
Yeah, continuation is fine.

2500
06:19:08,000 --> 06:19:12,000
I'm just going to come back anytime, I'm just saying if you table it and it doesn't get to take it off the table.

2501
06:19:12,000 --> 06:19:19,000
I believe that specifically listed as one of the reasons you can't bring it back within six months in our council policy.

2502
06:19:19,000 --> 06:19:22,000
Continuation is a different issue, you can continue to any day you want.

2503
06:19:22,000 --> 06:19:27,000
Okay, can I continue it to a date to be determined at a later time?

2504
06:19:27,000 --> 06:19:31,000
Yes, that to be determined is fine and then it does require a second and a vote by the council.

2505
06:19:31,000 --> 06:19:32,000
Thank you.

2506
06:19:32,000 --> 06:19:37,000
So we have a motion to continue to a date uncertain, would you still like the second that motion.

2507
06:19:37,000 --> 06:19:45,000
Can it come back in a, I mean let's say it was a broader discussion about revenues and things, it could come back in that revised form.

2508
06:19:45,000 --> 06:19:48,000
In the way we typically amend.

2509
06:19:48,000 --> 06:19:59,000
Excuse me, agenda is item sure, I give if council member will cover wants to do that or the council members are whatever that's fine.

2510
06:19:59,000 --> 06:20:01,000
So before I vote.

2511
06:20:01,000 --> 06:20:03,000
In doing that.

2512
06:20:03,000 --> 06:20:10,000
This ordinance as written would not necessarily come back, I'm not, I want to make sure I understand.

2513
06:20:10,000 --> 06:20:12,000
Yeah, I mean.

2514
06:20:12,000 --> 06:20:18,000
This, this ordinance, continuing item means that you're not taking a vote on the substance of it and it would come back.

2515
06:20:18,000 --> 06:20:22,000
So presumably the same information would come, that's what a continuation is.

2516
06:20:22,000 --> 06:20:28,000
If there's an intent to do something different, you don't really need to continuation, you just need to agenda is something different.

2517
06:20:30,000 --> 06:20:34,000
So if we did that, then this never come back.

2518
06:20:34,000 --> 06:20:39,000
If it morphed enough to be considered a different item.

2519
06:20:39,000 --> 06:20:42,000
I'm not sure if I understand the question.

2520
06:20:42,000 --> 06:20:43,000
I'm sorry.

2521
06:20:43,000 --> 06:20:48,000
I mean, I would, I would like to bring it back as a broader discussion in revenue options and things.

2522
06:20:48,000 --> 06:20:49,000
Right.

2523
06:20:49,000 --> 06:20:51,000
Then I would just to be honest, I mean, you can.

2524
06:20:51,000 --> 06:20:53,000
It seems like that's a different agenda.

2525
06:20:53,000 --> 06:20:58,000
Yeah, or if you all want to continue it with the understanding that it's going to be not this item,

2526
06:20:58,000 --> 06:21:02,000
or discussion or that's perfectly fine as long as we get a majority vote to do that.

2527
06:21:02,000 --> 06:21:04,000
But what's the point of doing that word word?

2528
06:21:04,000 --> 06:21:07,000
I'm just going to continue something that we don't even know what it is.

2529
06:21:07,000 --> 06:21:11,000
I'm just throwing out suggestions to meet whatever the goal of the council is.

2530
06:21:11,000 --> 06:21:13,000
It's up to you all how you want to handle it.

2531
06:21:13,000 --> 06:21:15,000
I mean, that doesn't make any sense.

2532
06:21:15,000 --> 06:21:18,000
So I think we should either not make a motion.

2533
06:21:18,000 --> 06:21:25,000
Or make a motion to continue this item and let us vote on whether we want to bring this back.

2534
06:21:25,000 --> 06:21:26,000
Right.

2535
06:21:26,000 --> 06:21:30,000
No, I think what Rob was saying and to council member makes this point,

2536
06:21:30,000 --> 06:21:34,000
it's we could include this in options to explore all together.

2537
06:21:34,000 --> 06:21:37,000
So it would be an agenda item that would include this.

2538
06:21:37,000 --> 06:21:42,000
If we vote to continue this and it could not be included in a future item.

2539
06:21:42,000 --> 06:21:45,000
Yeah, so if you can, you know, again, it depends on the motion,

2540
06:21:45,000 --> 06:21:51,000
but you can continue this in a way that opens up the discussion to other possibilities.

2541
06:21:51,000 --> 06:21:55,000
You can even continue in a way where you say we're not going to bring this actual ordinance back,

2542
06:21:55,000 --> 06:22:00,000
but it will be a discussion item on different alternatives or whatever the intention of the motion maker is.

2543
06:22:00,000 --> 06:22:04,000
To get the second and then the majority of the council agrees to that,

2544
06:22:04,000 --> 06:22:05,000
and that's what it would be.

2545
06:22:05,000 --> 06:22:11,000
How about if I make a motion to continue so we can explore additional options.

2546
06:22:11,000 --> 06:22:13,000
In addition to this one.

2547
06:22:13,000 --> 06:22:14,000
That's fine.

2548
06:22:14,000 --> 06:22:15,000
Yeah.

2549
06:22:15,000 --> 06:22:18,000
I would just clarify that we would not in that case,

2550
06:22:18,000 --> 06:22:23,000
bringing necessarily the actual ordinance as formulated here before you.

2551
06:22:23,000 --> 06:22:27,000
But we can obviously include that as part of the staff report.

2552
06:22:27,000 --> 06:22:28,000
The concept.

2553
06:22:28,000 --> 06:22:31,000
That's the concept, right.

2554
06:22:31,000 --> 06:22:32,000
Okay, okay.

2555
06:22:32,000 --> 06:22:33,000
I'll second that.

2556
06:22:33,000 --> 06:22:34,000
Thank you.

2557
06:22:34,000 --> 06:22:36,000
And it's to a date uncertain so we can.

2558
06:22:36,000 --> 06:22:38,000
Talk to you about strategic plan and move.

2559
06:22:38,000 --> 06:22:40,000
So we have a motion in a second.

2560
06:22:40,000 --> 06:22:41,000
Councilmember Bayless.

2561
06:22:41,000 --> 06:22:47,000
No, I was going to just point out in the conversation that we do have a strategy.

2562
06:22:47,000 --> 06:22:49,000
A session coming up.

2563
06:22:49,000 --> 06:22:50,000
That's the perfect point.

2564
06:22:50,000 --> 06:22:53,000
The perfect place to talk about this anyway.

2565
06:22:53,000 --> 06:22:55,000
I was going to point out.

2566
06:22:55,000 --> 06:22:57,000
The financial part.

2567
06:22:57,000 --> 06:22:59,000
I mean, it might be two steps.

2568
06:22:59,000 --> 06:23:00,000
Going through this.

2569
06:23:00,000 --> 06:23:02,000
The part of it in figuring out.

2570
06:23:02,000 --> 06:23:06,000
Part of it is going to be bringing back this ordinance.

2571
06:23:06,000 --> 06:23:07,000
Options.

2572
06:23:07,000 --> 06:23:09,000
It'll be options, including this option.

2573
06:23:09,000 --> 06:23:11,000
I just don't know what we're voting to.

2574
06:23:11,000 --> 06:23:13,000
I mean, this doesn't.

2575
06:23:14,000 --> 06:23:17,000
I mean, I think it's going to fail based on lack of clarity.

2576
06:23:17,000 --> 06:23:20,000
Well, that's why we're going to bring it back so we can clarify it for you.

2577
06:23:20,000 --> 06:23:21,000
We, I'm been.

2578
06:23:21,000 --> 06:23:23,000
How can I vote on something that I will.

2579
06:23:23,000 --> 06:23:24,000
We were not asked.

2580
06:23:24,000 --> 06:23:25,000
We're just asking you to vote to breathe.

2581
06:23:25,000 --> 06:23:26,000
I mean, you could vote.

2582
06:23:26,000 --> 06:23:27,000
No.

2583
06:23:27,000 --> 06:23:28,000
Oh, I mean, right now.

2584
06:23:28,000 --> 06:23:29,000
That's it.

2585
06:23:29,000 --> 06:23:32,000
But what I'm just, but under Robert's rules of order.

2586
06:23:32,000 --> 06:23:35,000
We need to have some sense of clarity on what we are voting.

2587
06:23:35,000 --> 06:23:37,000
So voting to continue.

2588
06:23:37,000 --> 06:23:41,000
An item in addition to other things that might come forward.

2589
06:23:41,000 --> 06:23:48,000
Or maybe is not a clear enough item for us to even vote on.

2590
06:23:48,000 --> 06:23:49,000
It's just not.

2591
06:23:49,000 --> 06:23:50,000
I mean, that's just not proper.

2592
06:23:50,000 --> 06:23:53,000
Robert Rob, you're the city attorney.

2593
06:23:53,000 --> 06:23:55,000
What is your opinion?

2594
06:23:55,000 --> 06:24:00,000
Again, you can make a motion to continue with certain conditions.

2595
06:24:00,000 --> 06:24:03,000
The council would need to spell out what those conditions are.

2596
06:24:03,000 --> 06:24:05,000
And then it can be continued to another date.

2597
06:24:05,000 --> 06:24:10,000
Again, alternatively, you could just move along and then agendas something under agendas setting.

2598
06:24:10,000 --> 06:24:13,000
Make it a fresh item, however you see fit.

2599
06:24:13,000 --> 06:24:22,000
So I would like to make a motion to continue this to explore other revenue opportunities in the city and include this item.

2600
06:24:22,000 --> 06:24:32,000
I want to even say include this item, but include explore all revenue opportunities in the city.

2601
06:24:32,000 --> 06:24:34,000
And would you second that council mirror weeks?

2602
06:24:34,000 --> 06:24:37,000
That's what I thought too, but we needed to clarify it.

2603
06:24:37,000 --> 06:24:40,000
I mean, you know, think.

2604
06:24:40,000 --> 06:24:44,000
I mean, basically we were a strategic plan anyway.

2605
06:24:44,000 --> 06:24:53,000
And I think the strategic plan discussion will be kind of setting our priorities.

2606
06:24:53,000 --> 06:25:03,000
And then I would like staff to come back with funding options or strategies after they know our priorities.

2607
06:25:03,000 --> 06:25:08,000
I'm looking at it as kind of step one step two, not all at the same meeting.

2608
06:25:08,000 --> 06:25:09,000
Is that too much?

2609
06:25:09,000 --> 06:25:13,000
Yeah. And I agree with you.

2610
06:25:13,000 --> 06:25:15,000
So I'm trying to step.

2611
06:25:15,000 --> 06:25:32,000
The vote is date on certain bring back the information, the financial information that was included in the staff report along with other options that might be discussed.

2612
06:25:32,000 --> 06:25:39,000
As a result of the strategic plan that.

2613
06:25:39,000 --> 06:25:44,000
Yes, so we're not.

2614
06:25:44,000 --> 06:25:48,000
We are bringing, we are going to, what do we afraid of?

2615
06:25:48,000 --> 06:25:59,000
We are going to vote on bringing something to council at a later date uncertain that will include this information.

2616
06:25:59,000 --> 06:26:13,000
Not the ordinance, but the financial information along with other options that staff will explore so that after.

2617
06:26:13,000 --> 06:26:19,000
As council member meets pointed out after we have our strategic session out one of our priorities.

2618
06:26:19,000 --> 06:26:26,000
Staff can look at these numbers, other numbers that might help us achieve that plan.

2619
06:26:26,000 --> 06:26:27,000
Yes.

2620
06:26:27,000 --> 06:26:28,000
Yeah.

2621
06:26:48,000 --> 06:26:54,000
The vote is five eyes two nays, nays by Mayor Aiken and Councillor Bailus, motion carries.

2622
06:26:57,000 --> 06:27:17,000
So we are skipping or not skipping, but we took item number twenty eight is off the calendar.

2623
06:27:17,000 --> 06:27:20,000
So moving on Mayor.

2624
06:27:20,000 --> 06:27:26,000
Yes, item twenty eight was pulled off, but we just need a motion just to continue that item.

2625
06:27:26,000 --> 06:27:32,000
Okay, thank you. So I will make a motion to continue item number twenty eight at the request of staff.

2626
06:27:32,000 --> 06:27:41,000
I have a second, please vote.

2627
06:27:41,000 --> 06:27:51,000
The vote is seven eyes no nays, the public hearing will continue to the council meeting of December 9, 2025.

2628
06:27:51,000 --> 06:27:56,000
Thank you. So we don't have any non agenda public comments correct clerk.

2629
06:27:56,000 --> 06:28:02,000
That's so now is the time for future agenda request by council members can council members please weigh in.

2630
06:28:02,000 --> 06:28:04,000
I'll start with council member Moss.

2631
06:28:04,000 --> 06:28:10,000
Thank you, Mayor. I am interested in exploring a construction jobs and trades fair.

2632
06:28:10,000 --> 06:28:18,000
So I would love to ask staff to explore potential locations and cost for an event like that.

2633
06:28:19,000 --> 06:28:23,000
Thank you. Anybody else?

2634
06:28:23,000 --> 06:28:26,000
Would you like a closed session report, Mayor?

2635
06:28:26,000 --> 06:28:32,000
Oh, yeah, but I want to have council member Bailus.

2636
06:28:32,000 --> 06:28:47,000
I'd like to add to the agenda discussion on the rules of putting an agenda on the item, expressly looking at to how much staff time is available to us when we do that.

2637
06:28:48,000 --> 06:29:06,000
So put it I'd like to take a look at the rules to put an item on the agenda expressly looking at how much staff time is allotted to us as a city council person to help us put an item on the agenda.

2638
06:29:06,000 --> 06:29:16,000
As an action item possibly our discussion action this possible discussion excuse me discussion with possible action is please.

2639
06:29:17,000 --> 06:29:45,000
Last I wanted to just ask the city manager I know we had previously discussed this I just wanted to follow up to see what the progress was when we had just and I'm sorry I'm trying to find it on the consent calendar for the contracts that are signed by the city managers office as well as visit Annaheim to have on our agenda like the staff reports to have live links to those contracts both the visit Annaheim contracts.

2640
06:29:45,000 --> 06:29:53,000
Approved by director Morton as well as your office so that people can download them and look at them.

2641
06:29:53,000 --> 06:29:56,000
If they so choose.

2642
06:29:56,000 --> 06:30:00,000
With that I'd like to go to our city attorney for our closed session.

2643
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:07,000
Report. No reportable action occurred in the close session. Thank you. Thank you so much, Mr. City Attorney.

2644
06:30:07,000 --> 06:30:13,000
With no other business before the council, we stand adjourned until November 4th.

2645
06:30:30,000 --> 06:30:40,000
Thank you.