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call, I would like to take a moment to

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remind everyone why we were here.

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Purpose statement.

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The city of Asheville

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Helene recovery boards were established

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to support city council's vision of a

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recovery that is rooted in resilience,

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rises in unity, repairs with care, and

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ready for tomorrow.

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The four boards represent city council's

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priority areas of economy, housing,

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infrastructure, environment, and people.

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insight, each of the four boards will

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provide critical input on city council

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policy recommendations, while also

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extending the city of Asheville's

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communication through board member

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uh since a lot of those allocations were recently made, and I think a lot of

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that. I know we had a meeting last time

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their seat. The first item on the agenda

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minutes. Can I get a motion to approve

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the June 3rd, 2026 meeting minutes?

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sure we get to everything on here. Um

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the new regular meeting schedule, and

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>> Great, and thanks everyone. We sent out

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today to officially move our meeting

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schedule to be the third Wednesday of

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every month at noon

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to 1:30. So if that all works for you

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action cuz that will then officially

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reset our monthly meeting schedule to be

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of every month every other month at 12.

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>> I'll make the motion to move our regular

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update on the um Housing Recovery Board

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work plan.

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on policy recommendations

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that advance post-disaster housing

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stability efforts, that support

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solutions, that support development of

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challenges by communicating resources,

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funding opportunities. So, I know you

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all are are very familiar with this. Um

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next slide, please, Megan. But, I

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thought what we could do is really just

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reflect and kind of close the loop on

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some of the work activities that we've

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done thus far, and how that really um

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responds to those um

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stated deliverables. So, in in terms of

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the goal to provide input to City

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Council on policy recommendations to

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advance post-disaster housing, I really

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thought about this work of the this team

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to advise on the prioritization of the

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Renew NC program. So, you recall the

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state had an existing prioritization

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rubric, and this team further informed

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that, um, which we are using currently.

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Um, as a second, um, providing input on

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the development of strategies to

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proactively address future displacement

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events,

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um, I thought that aligned really well

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with some of the work that we discussed

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around the affordable housing

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multi-family investments,

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um, ultimately leading to a $17 million

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allocation in CDBG-DR funds.

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Um, and then lastly, providing input to

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City Council on recommendations that

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support temporary and permanent housing

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solutions for displaced residents. So,

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again, really drawing that connection,

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um, with the action that was taken

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around the Renew NC allocation. Um, so

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again, I as staff, I really find it

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important that we we

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um, ensure that I'm doing my work in in

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terms of sharing that information up to

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City Council when they deliberate on

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decisions, um, whether it's through

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themes of feedback that we've created or

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actual votes that have been taken. And

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so, those really stood out to me.

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Um, but if we go, uh, to next slide, we

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can really start thinking through the

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future. I wanted, uh, in working with,

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uh, the chair and and Andy sent out an

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email just to really start to chart our

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course forward. And so, here's kind of

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what we're going to be doing for the

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next couple of months.

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Um, today you're going to hear more from

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Robbie Bazo, who's on camera, um, about

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FEMA disaster data. And now, FEMA's

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interesting, we'll get into this. It

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looks back, so it really has that now

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clear picture of what happened and what

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those impacts were.

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Um, however, FEMA is limited in that we

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don't really know what's happening or

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how people have recovered today. So,

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we'll get into that, but it's a really

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clear picture looking backwards.

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But second, um

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we do have representatives from the

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Buncombe County Long-Term Recovery Group

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um that will be joining us shortly. I

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think they had a meeting um that was

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just up against this one, so I do expect

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that they'll walk through the doors

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um in due time uh to share really on the

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ground work that they're doing, so we

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can start to understand what's happening

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on the on the ground. Um then as another

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point of information about unmet needs,

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we're going to have Emily Ball with the

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Continuum of Care really talk us through

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the Point in Time Count really discuss

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some of the findings that they had um

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with that work and then talk about the

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strategic plan. Um again, just really

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trying to lay some strong groundwork for

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unmet needs so that we can again develop

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that into policy recommendations moving

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forward.

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So, if you go on the next slide, I also

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wanted to ground this in just the work

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of staff. As you all know, um our work

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feeds into um the work Hello, perfect

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timing. That's our our Long-Term

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Recovery Group um teammates who are

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joining us now.

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So, I just wanted to give you some

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insight into what our wonderful staff

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are doing and I have um

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Elma and Sasha both joining today just

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to take a listen.

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And so, right now we are working to

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implement the CDBG-DR multi-family

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housing investments. Um we did have some

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tax credit announcements that did occur.

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Um 319 Biltmore was funded. We're still

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awaiting results um for the Terrace at

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River Hills

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um which could be forthcoming in the in

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the next couple of months here. So, then

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our job is to get those agreements

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together. So, we go heads down in terms

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of really refining those legal

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agreements and making sure that we are

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being good partners to those projects as

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they get to the finish line. Um the

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second step is is very much ongoing

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communication and coordination to

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support the state's efforts with Renew

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and See. I know Elma is on calls um

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almost every other week with the state

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to really ensure monitoring and

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oversight of that program.

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Then lastly, I did want to start to

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forecast um some of the remaining work

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from our CDBGDR that's going to be the

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subject matter for the Housing Recovery

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Board. And that's our housing and

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economic security support services

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funding. Mouthful. You can just say HESS

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if you prefer.

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So, we are developing our approach to

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this program. Um this is the first

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mention of it to one of our boards.

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Um and so that's just a teaser to say

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we'll be coming back to this board to

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really flush out that that funding as it

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relates to housing services. If you want

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to do some advance homework, I welcome

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you to take a look at the action plan,

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which talks about the allocation to this

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program and some of the early insights

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um that we were using to frame up where

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we're heading with this program, but

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just uh look forward in the future that

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will be coming back to this board

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perhaps as soon as October um to start

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to discuss um some of that funding and

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some of the particulars. So, with that

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in mind, I think that was um next slide.

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I think that really wraps up my I just

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wanted to set the stage for today and

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happy to take any questions, but

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otherwise I'll turn it back over to the

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chair.

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So.

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Great.

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>> I'm actually just a just like a little

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question. I know that

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>> Absolutely.

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>> HESS conversation is down the road, but it's just helpful to understand

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what's coming. Like are those

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COC support services dollars that that

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would be coming? I haven't heard that

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term before, HESS.

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So, it's a particular subset of CDBGDR.

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>> Correct.

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>> Mhm.

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>> Okay.

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But it can only be used not for sticks

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and bricks. It has to be used for

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uh support services.

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>> So,

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Elma, do you want to

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tackle this one at very high level?

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She's our subject matter expert, so she

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knows everything always at the top of

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her head.

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>> Well, at a very high level it could be

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things like um referring folks to where

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there are available there is available

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housing. It's wrap-around services

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either for economic security or housing

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security. That's We haven't fleshed out

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further what we could do. You mentioned

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the COC, there's potential for engaging

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them on identifying what the needs and

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gaps are

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and then better flushing out what the

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program could do. But yes, it's

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wrap-around services, so related to

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housing, related to economic security

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support services, but not actually

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providing said

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housing.

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>> Okay.

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>> Great distinction and I can certainly

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follow up on that. So, whereas our other

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programs have been capital investments

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into housing, this is really the support

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services that wrap around, really

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support the individual individuals in in

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terms of either access to housing

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through case management, for example, or

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other services like that, legal services

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perhaps.

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So, again, that's still in development

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and we'll we'll be ready to come back in

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the coming months to dig in.

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>> So, I have a question.

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Are there any actual consumers or people

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that are impacted have been impacted by

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displacement by the hurricane that are

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still

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unhoused and having these problems, are

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they going to be part of this

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new program that you're projecting and

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creating because you can have all the

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people in the room you want that are

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developing ideas, but if you're not

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actually having the people in the room

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that it's impacting and having them

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being part of the solutions and the

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conversation, then it's void.

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>> Mhm.

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I think that's a great point and and

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from my perspective, this is why I

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really wanted to have the voice of the

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Buncombe

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long-term recovery group from their case

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managers today. So, I think perhaps we

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can revisit that when we hear from the

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case managers because what I want to get

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out of that conversation is to

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understand the themes that they're

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hearing, what they are hearing from

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those individuals, Um, is why today

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we'll hear from those case managers. So,

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we can certainly follow up with that as

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that conversation unfolds as our one of

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our later agenda items.

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» Nikki, so this program, I'm assuming

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next time when you bring it back in

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October, it's like this is the scope of

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services we're proposing and then we're

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going to go out and seek agencies to

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execute on that.

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>> It's

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>> do an RFP?

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>> certain, I mean, I'm generally speaking

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um, partnering with what we call

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subrecipients. So, yes, external

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agencies is often our best approach just

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given that we have such capacity in our

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community of nonprofits to really

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provide those services. So, from my

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mind, I'm already fairly certain that would be our recommendation. Um,

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there's of course always the opportunity

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for municipalities or governments to

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administer their own program, but again,

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I think with our capacity in our

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community, it's it's often the best

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approach to partner.

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>> So, what's the kind of time frame for

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rolling out the services? Is this sort

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of like first year kind of thing?

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>> That's that's currently what we're

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trying to do is is sequence within our

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work plan when we're ready to then

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provide that. So, right now, um, we do

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have a deadline of the end of the year

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to produce the the manual, so the policy

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manual for all the eligible activities,

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but then looking to early next year to

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really start the process. So, a notice

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of funding opportunity, soliciting

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applications, reviewing those

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applications and and so on and so forth.

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That's some of the work that we've been

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00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,160
doing just this past week to really slot

559
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,480
that in. But I we're thinking um, early

560
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,360
next year, next half of next year is

561
00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,360
when we really want to see this program

562
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,160
activate.

563
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,310
>> Okay, great. Thank you.

564
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,040
» Great. Thank you so much.

565
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040
>> I have one other comment, Nikki. I think

566
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,360
it's really great that we're having a

567
00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,320
long-term recovery group here today. I'm

568
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,360
really curious to see what they're what

569
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:04,760
they're actually doing boots on the

570
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,360
ground because we still have several

571
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,920
people in the communities that have been

572
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,920
trying to get housing that are still

573
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,320
displaced that I've been working with

574
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,280
for

575
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,800
over 2 years coming against all kind of

576
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,120
barriers. I don't remember seeing any of

577
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,480
these groups being part of that support

578
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,560
for them. So, I'm really curious to see

579
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,400
what they have to what they have to say.

580
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,710
>> Thank you.

581
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,560
» Well, thank you, Nikki. Um and for

582
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,200
everyone for their questions and

583
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,040
feedback there.

584
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,120
So, we have two more presentations

585
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,640
today.

586
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,120
I am going to hand it over to Robbie

587
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,680
Bisote. Did I say that right?

588
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,600
Um he is going to give a presentation on

589
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,720
updated housing unmet needs presentation

590
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,400
and we're a little ahead of ahead of

591
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,960
schedule, so I'm keeping an eye on that,

592
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,760
but I think we'll

593
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,000
have till like at least 12:51. Robbie,

594
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,320
is that

595
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:01,840
enough time?

596
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,320
>> Plenty of

597
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,440
>> Okay. Cool. I want to make sure we have

598
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,920
enough time for the last group, but uh

599
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,280
thank you. Take it away.

600
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,600
>> All right. Yes.

601
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,040
Thank you for having me today here. I'm

602
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,320
Robbie Bisote. I am the

603
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,560
CDBGDR implementation consultant for the

604
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200
city assisting with disaster recovery.

605
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,560
And so, today again we're talking about

606
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560
the housing unmet needs assessment and

607
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,560
update. So, Megan, next slide for the

608
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,080
overview.

609
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,400
So, to understand the impacts of an

610
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,200
unmet needs assessment, primarily you

611
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,760
look at FEMA individual assistance data

612
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,600
as the ability to understand housing

613
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,040
impacts. Obviously,

614
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,360
households, renters, homeowners apply to

615
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:42,120
that access to the individual

616
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,760
assistance. FEMA collects that data and

617
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,720
from there they start doing inspections

618
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,520
and verifications.

619
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,360
Um so, early on when we did the unmet

620
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:53,200
needs analysis, the original action plan

621
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,720
amendment, we had 2025 FEMA individual

622
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,520
data sets. And so, with the substantial

623
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,680
action plan amendment that we put in, we

624
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,880
had to basically look at updated FEMA

625
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,640
individual assistance data, which was

626
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,840
available

627
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080
January 2026.

628
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,000
So, looking at unmet needs, it's a

629
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280
different calibration of

630
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,440
SBA for economic development,

631
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,000
infrastructure sometimes looking at FEMA

632
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800
public assistance or HMP, but housing

633
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040
inevitably you're using FEMA individual

634
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,160
data sets to understand the impacts. So,

635
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,400
this presentation is going to kind of go

636
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,800
over the differences between owner

637
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,120
occupants and tenants.

638
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,800
Uh just to show you a different frame of

639
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,800
reference, we had a total of 14,589

640
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,880
owner occupants that uh applied to FEMA.

641
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,080
We had 20,633

642
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,440
renters that applied as of 2026. So,

643
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,760
basically a 10% change in owner

644
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,080
occupants from 2025 and about a 16%

645
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,240
change in renters applying since 2025.

646
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,680
Just to put it in frame of reference,

647
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,040
the city of Asheville has a total of

648
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,640
93,000

649
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,280
people in it.

650
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,160
The average household size is 2.43.

651
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,360
So, really you have about 38,486

652
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,320
households. So, when you look at that

653
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,600
combined aspect of renters and owners

654
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,720
applying, essentially 91.52%

655
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,640
of your households applied for FEMA

656
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,360
individual assistance. You know, I've

657
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,840
done this for a long time and I just

658
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,920
want to applaud the city for

659
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,440
you know, telling the public to apply

660
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,320
that assistance because majority if not

661
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,440
all of your applicants that within your

662
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,000
population had the availability when it

663
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,080
was there.

664
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,310
Uh next slide.

665
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,120
All right, so let's talk a little bit

666
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,120
about the owner-occupied households.

667
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,240
Now,

668
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,520
with the uh updates in 2026, again

669
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,880
there's now 14,589

670
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
households that applied, but the issue

671
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,640
with FEMA data is that it you're always

672
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,880
playing catch-up, right? And so, because

673
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,560
Asheville, you know, one of the fastest

674
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,760
CDBG awards in history after an event,

675
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440
you're always playing in this kind of

676
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,880
limbo period of playing where the FEMA you know FEMA PA, HMP is never in

677
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,520
line when you're trying to create your

678
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,800
unmet needs analysis, okay?

679
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,480
So when we looked at the updated data

680
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560
set, we realized the changes between

681
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040
2025 and the changes in 2026, FEMA had

682
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520
only inspected 30% of your

683
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,160
owner-occupied households. And so when

684
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,160
we're trying to create an unmet needs

685
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,160
update for the substantial action plan

686
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,840
amendment, we kind of had to make some

687
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,880
assumptions in the absence of FEMA

688
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,040
actually inspecting those properties.

689
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Because that is you know, math is math,

690
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,680
right? 100% should have been inspected,

691
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,040
they only inspected 30% which means 70%

692
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,840
of the households out of the 14,000

693
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,000
individuals did not have an inspection

694
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,360
done. And so we try to do in the next

695
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,760
chart is going to be a little flow and

696
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,960
it's going to be a little more easier to

697
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,760
understand. This is a lot of data, a lot

698
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240
to take in. But some key takeaways in

699
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,880
this is that with the observed damages,

700
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,720
had they inspected all properties,

701
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280
probably 2,181

702
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,000
owner-occupied homes may have had

703
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520
substantial major damage and FEMA

704
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,840
estimates that exceeding $8,000 in real

705
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,400
property loss, okay?

706
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,240
We then looked at the FEMA property

707
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,640
insurance data as it relates to the

708
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,680
inspected homes and how many of those

709
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,160
houses either were uninsured or

710
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,920
underinsured. So in these assumptions

711
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,160
you're going to see in the chart next

712
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,600
that about 286 households were either

713
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,120
underinsured

714
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,680
or uninsured, excuse me, or 1,900 of

715
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960
them being underinsured creating some

716
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,400
significant recovery challenges. So with

717
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320
a culmination of this analysis, you're

718
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,360
looking at somewhere in the

719
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,280
approximation of $180 million in total

720
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,480
unmet needs for housing,

721
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,320
$123 million for those underinsured and

722
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080
$57 million for uninsured properties.

723
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,640
But again, as Nikki just said, when we

724
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,520
started off, FEMA does not tell us

725
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,200
what's happened since then. So, if we

726
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840
create an action plan based on 2025 FEMA

727
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,760
individual data sets, and we've got

728
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,160
updated since January 2026, of course we

729
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760
did see that 10% 14% change in owner

730
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
occupants and renters, but it doesn't

731
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,360
tell the story about what has happened

732
00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:12,200
from recovery from these points, all

733
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,640
right? So, next slide. To kind of put

734
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,680
this in perspective, because those are

735
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,360
key takeaways, we kind of just want to

736
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,680
walk you through the kind of funnel

737
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640
chart of how we kind of re-updated the

738
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840
unmet needs based on the FEMA 2026 IA

739
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280
data set. So, we know for a fact there's

740
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,760
14,589

741
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,480
owner occupants that applied. And so,

742
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,760
FEMA inspected 30% of those, which would

743
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,600
have been the 4,387

744
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,040
uh households, because they did not

745
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,920
actually uh inspect all of them. Of the ones they

746
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,680
did inspect, 658%

747
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,800
of them had something that was either

748
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,280
$5,000 or more, but not destroyed, okay?

749
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040
So, again, this is

750
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760
key takeaways here. We're making

751
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,120
assumptions based on the absence of FEMA

752
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,680
inspecting everything, all right? So, in

753
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,160
that assumption,

754
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,920
had they inspected all the properties,

755
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,280
there could have been somewhere around

756
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,640
2188 owner occupants that received some

757
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,120
type of damage above $5,000, but not

758
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,520
destroyed. And I then have to then

759
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,960
ascertain out of the properties that

760
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120
they did inspect, how many of those

761
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,880
properties were either uninsured

762
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,880
or underinsured. And so, that's where

763
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,480
you see this kind of flowchart, right?

764
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Still using assumptions based on the

765
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,760
data that we had,

766
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,200
it would probably arrive at somewhere

767
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,880
around 286 households that have that

768
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640
kind of major damage, which would

769
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
constitute about a $57 million unmet

770
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,200
need.

771
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440
In retrospect, you're basically

772
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,200
um subtracting the two 2,188 from the

773
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,320
uninsured leaves you approximately 1,900

774
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,320
people uninsured. Now, there's a vast

775
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,640
difference that you have to understand

776
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,640
in underinsured and uninsured, okay?

777
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640
In every one of these scenarios, if a

778
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120
person did in fact get an estimate and

779
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,720
get some type of physical loss, FEMA

780
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,600
most likely gave them some type of

781
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960
repair assistance, okay? So, as we know

782
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,200
or may not know, any type of FEMA

783
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,600
individual repair assistance will be

784
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400
counted as a duplication of benefit.

785
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000
It's available for the recovery effort

786
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960
in another different type of CDBG funded

787
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,960
program. Where the uninsured issue

788
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,040
happens is that with uninsured, even

789
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,320
with the FEMA individual assistance and

790
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,080
you not having any personal property

791
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520
insurance as an additional buffer, your

792
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,520
cost of recovery is going to be more.

793
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200
It's most likely going to have a gap of

794
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,240
somewhere about a $200,000 unmet need.

795
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,200
On the other hand, people who were

796
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760
uninsured, typically uninsured means

797
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,800
that they went with a very high

798
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880
deductible insurance plan and the

799
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760
fortunate fact is what the HUD Universal

800
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,640
data says is that a deductible in and of

801
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200
itself, the homeowner's responsibility

802
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040
is not counted as a duplication of

803
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
benefit. It's only what insurance

804
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,360
actually paid. So, then they do have

805
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,160
that private property insurance as a

806
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360
means to be able to recover along with

807
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960
probably some type of FEMA

808
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,240
individual assistance for repair awards

809
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,480
so. Again, this is a point in time it

810
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,160
does not tell you what's happened since

811
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,600
the recovery effort. It doesn't happen

812
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,000
what's happening through philanthropic

813
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360
money, through different means, through

814
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,120
private property insurance, through the

815
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,480
means of being able to recover with the

816
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600
FEMA individual assistance repair award.

817
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,760
It's just a point in time. So, but I

818
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,840
think more grounded in truth is what we

819
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,720
know at least for ones that were

820
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,520
actually inspected because

821
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,720
and I you know, we really are trying to

822
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,840
address the uh the LMI community uh in

823
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240
the owner-occupied uh setting. So, Megan

824
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,400
place, next slide.

825
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,120
So, to talk about this, is those are

826
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,480
again our ascertains. Again, we have the

827
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,960
ability to make ascertains in updating

828
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,320
unmet needs analysis. Is it a way that

829
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,760
HUD allowed us to move forward with

830
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,680
substantial action plan amendment and

831
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,280
adopting that substantial action plan

832
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040
amendment with that unmet need analysis.

833
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,960
But, really ground truth in that into

834
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,880
the individuals that primarily are going

835
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040
to be the hardest to uh to recover,

836
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,960
right? Your LMI community. So,

837
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320
before we get too too far into like,

838
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,160
what does damage levels mean, right?

839
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,760
Because we're going to talk a little bit

840
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,200
about renters in a second, but

841
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
owner-occupants have a vastly different

842
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,920
categorization of

843
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,680
uh damage than renters do.

844
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520
But, the way that FEMA constitutes

845
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,240
damage is severe, minor high, minor low, You see that on

846
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,880
the chart there. And so, what that

847
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800
basically says, and HUD also says that

848
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240
you primarily only look at three main

849
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960
categories when you're doing an unmet

850
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320
needs assessment. And that's severe,

851
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,920
major high, major low. So, when looking

852
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
at this, you have about 200 You have 23

853
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,840
people in that kind of severe or

854
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
destroyed aspect. You know, I cannot

855
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400
tell you whether or not they're they're the uninsured or underinsured

856
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
aspect of it cuz that it's

857
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Every It's not a guarantee to see that data in that

858
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,560
data set. The next 134, the next 196.

859
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,240
So, in in reality,

860
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,520
you have a 153

861
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040
households that are LMI that have some

862
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,280
type of damage that would either

863
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
constitute a reconstruction or some type

864
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
of rehabilitation. Now, considering that

865
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,560
and in the absence of us understanding

866
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,520
that kind of recalibration of

867
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,800
assumptions in the number of the 2,188,

868
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,320
I can't tell you how many of those might

869
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,520
be LMI. I'm just ground truthing in what

870
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760
I know right now. 153 households in

871
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,360
those major categories that you really

872
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520
want to focus on. Now, you know, and you

873
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,640
guys talked a little bit about the

874
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,160
prioritization of the state level in the

875
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,040
ReBuild NC program, and it's kind of

876
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840
trending in lines that kind of that

877
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,320
right around number about the ones that

878
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,240
applied. So, whether they applied

879
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,040
through the ReBuild NC program or were

880
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,280
able to recover on their own through

881
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,000
other private uh private property

882
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720
insurance needs or FEMA individual

883
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,240
repair needs, you are maybe addressing

884
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,920
some of those either within ReBuild

885
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280
program, private property insurance, or

886
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,640
through the philanthropic on the ground

887
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,280
uh recovery that's inherently happened

888
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560
uh since the tropical storm Helene.

889
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Uh but then let's talk about

890
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,320
>> interrupt to say

891
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,640
>> Great. I'll just interrupt to say like

892
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,480
so, you know, when I see these numbers,

893
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
for me again, it reflects a lot of I

894
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200
think what we saw as we were looking at

895
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,840
the dashboards that we were receiving

896
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,480
from ReBuild NC about the number of

897
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,280
applications they were receiving. So,

898
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,480
again, I think a lot of especially if we

899
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040
look at the severe FEMA verified loss,

900
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800
like if if you were are are low income

901
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,880
and experienced significant loss, it is

902
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640
likely that you are applying to these

903
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,120
programs of assistance. So, this again

904
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,600
for me represents

905
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,240
with, you know, assumptions that and

906
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,520
caveats that Robbie has shared, but this

907
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
does represent the impact to homeowners

908
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,800
for our low-to-moderate income sub-sect.

909
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
So, keeping our eye on this like as a

910
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,120
pretty clear picture of of what kind of

911
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,160
um low-income owner household impacts

912
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600
were experienced across our city. So,

913
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,399
just keep that in mind as we again

914
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:11,679
reflect on on on the investments that

915
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,159
we've made with ReBuild NC, but then

916
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:14,720
think through what the long-term

917
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,520
recovery group is doing and how um how

918
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080
those impacts will continue to show up

919
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,159
and and how to address those. So,

920
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,040
thanks, Robbie.

921
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,760
>> And

922
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,159
also, um is it okay if we ask questions

923
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,960
during? I just want to open up the floor

924
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,320
if anyone else has any questions. There

925
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,399
is lots of numbers up here, so I didn't

926
00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:32,320
want to

927
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,040
save all questions. I just wanted to say

928
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,280
that if anyone has anything now

929
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,760
ask that rather than just waiting

930
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,440
afterwards.

931
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,360
>> Can I ask the clarifying question? When

932
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,720
you say FEMA individual assistance, I

933
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,440
guess the number like 92% of households

934
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,560
applied for this, that kind of made me

935
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,560
think is this referring to or does this

936
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,800
include that $750

937
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,320
that individuals could apply for?

938
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,040
>> It absolutely does and that's I was

939
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,560
going to get to that point in a second

940
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,720
and when when you start seeing

941
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,680
is this same slide for household is it

942
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,400
low to low to moderate slide still up on

943
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,640
the on the on

944
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,760
>> Yeah, we're looking at the low to

945
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,880
moderate income households impacts,

946
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,320
yeah.

947
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,240
>> So let's let's look at that very very

948
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,720
last line cuz I mean you're probably

949
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,800
thinking wow 4,740

950
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,240
LMI households are it's a big number but

951
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,000
in reality they probably just got that

952
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,320
food stipend, you know, I mean the

953
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,120
number between that you're probably

954
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400
totally talking about a hundred maybe

955
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,800
that had somewhere between a thousand to

956
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,280
three thousand dollars in in in loss and

957
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,240
I mean

958
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,200
typically when FEMA individual

959
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,240
assistance repair awards we give give

960
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,280
that to them it's only going to be a

961
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,000
couple thousand dollars cuz in reality

962
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,880
that's what it probably takes just for

963
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,920
the minor cosmetic aspects of what

964
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,920
actually happened to their to the real

965
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,000
property loss. A lot of those numbers

966
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,720
are just people truly getting that that

967
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:56,320
stipend.

968
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,800
>> Right.

969
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,200
>> You know.

970
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,160
>> Then follow up question.

971
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,920
Like for example, I I applied and got

972
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,880
that $750

973
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,160
stipend at the time. I did not have any

974
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,600
property damage. So

975
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,280
is there any like selective bias where

976
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,560
like does does FEMA inspect more of the

977
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,840
households that reported property

978
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,480
damage? Like is there a skewing in we're

979
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,920
saying you know 15% I think that's the

980
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,760
right number. 15% of the households that

981
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,920
FEMA

982
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,400
looked at their structure. Um

983
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,920
>> 30% inspections. I mean, here's

984
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,560
>> Also, they inspected 30% of the total

985
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,720
applicants, but then they only found

986
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,200
that a certain percent of that 30%

987
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,400
actually had structural damage. So, is

988
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,640
that 30% that got

989
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,320
physically evaluated? Does that

990
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,240
Did they look more at the households

991
00:36:57,240 --> 00:36:59,200
that reported damage? My [clears throat]

992
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,950
point here is wondering

993
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:09,360
is it right to apply the assumption that a certain

994
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,680
percentage of households likely have

995
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,800
this structural damage if there was a

996
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,920
bias in only evaluating households with

997
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,080
that reported structural damage?

998
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:20,640
I hope that makes

999
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,840
>> necessarily I wouldn't go straight to

1000
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,280
the bias aspect of it because, you know,

1001
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,120
but

1002
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,400
if there's not enough boots on the

1003
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,560
ground, I mean, remember this is just

1004
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,400
this is Asheville's

1005
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
I data. This is not Buncombe. This is

1006
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640
not in Western North Carolina. So, you

1007
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,040
only have so many people that can do

1008
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,280
inspections, you know? And so, where you

1009
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
they do it Yeah, they inevitably they

1010
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,400
will inspect the ones where a person had

1011
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,480
self-reported damage, but it could have

1012
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,000
just been some of them got missed. But

1013
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,760
you're also dealing with

1014
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,480
a federal data set that people are

1015
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,880
filling out on the fields. There's

1016
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,520
inaccuracies in all that, you know? But

1017
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,720
what this doesn't show is what we

1018
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,160
and inevitably what the ReNew and See

1019
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,280
program has is something called a DOB

1020
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,040
database. So, that is more up-to-date so

1021
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,920
that if a person does apply and that

1022
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,800
we're missing that that linkage of that

1023
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960
inspection and it didn't actually occur,

1024
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,200
they have access to be able to

1025
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,000
understand that to infer any type of

1026
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,520
duplication of benefit they might give

1027
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,440
for a repair award. I just don't see

1028
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,360
this. I'm not able to get see that in this in that data. But

1029
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,120
I wouldn't go to the bias route. I think it was manpower just the not

1030
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,880
enough inspectors in the field to be

1031
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,320
able to do everything they needed to do,

1032
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,920
you know? But I mean, but you see, I

1033
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,400
mean, from a year's difference, you had,

1034
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,400
you know,

1035
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,400
17% more renters apply, right? They They

1036
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,480
typically don't do a lot of inspections

1037
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,960
for renters cuz typically those are

1038
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,800
going to you're going to see this in the

1039
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,840
next slide is a lot of apartments.

1040
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,360
Um but you did have a 17% increase in

1041
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,720
owner occupants. That kind of probably

1042
00:38:55,720 --> 00:38:57,080
ticked up to you probably getting

1043
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
another 2% from that from It was

1044
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,560
probably It was probably 28%. So they

1045
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,320
did about 2% more inspections in that in

1046
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
that additional $10,000 and 10,000 um

1047
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120
people added to the the um

1048
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,167
the individual homeowners, you know?

1049
00:39:10,167 --> 00:39:11,240
>> [clears throat]

1050
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:12,720
>> Um

1051
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,840
I mean, as it's it's it's it's the best

1052
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120
available data that we have, you know?

1053
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Um I mean, I think the resources

1054
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520
collectively as a team, you know, the

1055
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,040
long-term recovery group, you know, the

1056
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160
different uh COCs, the philanthropic um

1057
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,040
on the ground to the ears are going to

1058
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,600
be able to fill some type of unknown

1059
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,400
gaps of with the absence of FEMA FEMA

1060
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,320
data is not going to be able to tell

1061
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,790
you, you know?

1062
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,320
» Great. Thanks, Robbie. And just um

1063
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,200
for Logan, if you can turn our speakers

1064
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,840
up just a little in this room, that'll

1065
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,120
be helpful. We're struggling just a

1066
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,120
little bit to hear in the room if that's

1067
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,680
possible. But sorry to interrupt,

1068
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Robbie. Why don't you go on to the next

1069
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,720
part cuz I do think um unpacking the

1070
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,920
renter impact is also going to help

1071
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,200
complete the picture of our housing uh

1072
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,440
situation. So, let's keep going.

1073
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,680
>> Absolutely. So, the renter household

1074
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,000
actually accounts for your largest uh

1075
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,160
population for individual assistance. Um

1076
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,680
220,600

1077
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,840
individuals. 61% of those individuals

1078
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840
are LMI households. But to your point,

1079
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,440
uh Eloise Eloise,

1080
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Um

1081
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,800
what we're looking at is substantial

1082
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,800
impacts beyond the water and power

1083
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,320
outages because

1084
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,760
in the absence of you actually having

1085
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,320
any personal property loss, which we're

1086
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,680
going to talk about on this FEMA looks

1087
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,200
at renters a little bit different, all

1088
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,160
right? Most of these individuals got the

1089
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,320
stipend, right? So, we really want to

1090
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,480
look beyond the water and power outages.

1091
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,720
That's That's typically what it would

1092
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:39,760
have would have gotten that stipend for.

1093
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,840
So, with that, we had 1,827 renter

1094
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,760
households with documented personal

1095
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,800
property damage. Of those, 63% were low

1096
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,080
to moderate, or 1,159 households. The

1097
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,760
remaining unmet renter need appears to

1098
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600
be concentrated primarily on 424

1099
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,280
impacted LMI households living in rental

1100
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
houses and duplexes. I want to focus on

1101
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,680
rental houses and duplexes to show you

1102
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,480
even more in this next slide. And then

1103
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,320
we're going to talk about 47 households

1104
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,640
with the most significant property

1105
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,400
losses within that category of single

1106
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,400
family and duplexes.

1107
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,510
Um so, the next slide.

1108
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,920
So, these are truth, right? So, these

1109
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,000
are 20,633.

1110
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Um

1111
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,000
again, FEMA did not inspect all of

1112
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920
these, but with that, we do know where

1113
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,840
they live, right? So, we do know what

1114
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,520
their income is. 61% of those 12,000

1115
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,440
were LMI, 24% non-LMI, and because this

1116
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,920
is a voluntary question that you don't

1117
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960
have to answer, you had about 3,000

1118
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,400
people, or 14% of the individuals not

1119
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
reporting their income. Now,

1120
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,880
it's it's really evident, you know,

1121
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,280
where you live matters because where you

1122
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,360
live is how it the the facility in and

1123
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,240
of itself recovers. So,

1124
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,160
52% of those 20,000 people live in

1125
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,360
apartment complexes, okay?

1126
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,880
Apartment complexes inherently have

1127
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,760
private property insurance. They recover

1128
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
through that private property insurance.

1129
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,280
They don't usually They don't get FEMA

1130
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,280
individual assistance to do that. Of

1131
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,760
course, there is a rapid multi-family

1132
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,880
program that is offered through FEMA.

1133
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,920
I'm not sure if any of them took

1134
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,960
advantage of that, but at we've looked

1135
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,400
through the Bowan study, we've looked

1136
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,200
through the different reoccupying of the

1137
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,280
LIHTC deals, the market rate

1138
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,760
developments, and a lot of those have

1139
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,600
recovered. So, in essence,

1140
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520
the renters have had the opportunity to

1141
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,320
be rehoused under the means of private

1142
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,280
property insurance. Now, the issue with

1143
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,320
individual living in duplexes and and

1144
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,320
housing and single-family housing, 33%

1145
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,880
of them,

1146
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,640
they can't recover, right? I mean, the

1147
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,200
landlord is the person who has to

1148
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,840
recover. In the absence of the landlord

1149
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,040
having insurance for the coverage of it,

1150
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,880
they might not have the ability to still

1151
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,040
occupy that house, right? And then the

1152
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,960
other combined types, it's a misnumber

1153
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
in there. You have dorm rooms, military

1154
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,080
housing, nursing centers, a lot of

1155
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,240
different combined weird and it's Again,

1156
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,760
this is FEMA data. You're it's you're

1157
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,760
beholden to the person checking the

1158
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,520
right box of who's actually applying

1159
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,560
somewhere. So, I really want to focus on

1160
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,040
those uh those housing and duplexes uh

1161
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,960
so, the next slide because you know,

1162
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,400
we're talking about the you know, the

1163
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,360
assistance to low to moderate

1164
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,920
households. Uh next slide.

1165
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,440
We want to look a little bit about what

1166
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,240
is their impacts related to their

1167
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,560
personal property loss. Now, I mentioned

1168
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,440
earlier that, you know, FEMA has a way

1169
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,880
of defining things on an owner basis.

1170
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,360
It's vastly different from a renter

1171
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,520
basis.

1172
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,960
So, on an owner basis, they look at what

1173
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,800
is the damage relative to the real

1174
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,760
property loss, and they categorize those

1175
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,000
in the same way, severe, minor high,

1176
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,960
minor low, minor, and so on.

1177
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,840
The way that FEMA constitutes um damages

1178
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,600
for renters, it's based on their

1179
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600
personal property loss.

1180
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,000
And just to kind of put it like in a

1181
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,680
crosswalk, okay? Let's focus on major

1182
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,840
high. So, if a person, a renter,

1183
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,160
is major high, they have a $5,500 to a

1184
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,560
$9,000 personal property loss. That's

1185
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,960
equatable

1186
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,160
to if you look at the structure damage

1187
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560
on the owner occupant side of a house

1188
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,680
having somewhere between 15,000 and

1189
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,240
28,800

1190
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,240
dollars in real property loss. So that

1191
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,360
tells you that that house most likely is

1192
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,360
either on the cusp of a reconstruction

1193
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,480
or definitely needs rehabilitation.

1194
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Okay? So as you see here, the

1195
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
apartments, yes, inherently you have a a

1196
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,720
large number of individuals in LMI

1197
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,400
living in apartments, but like I said,

1198
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,040
majority of those individuals have

1199
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,000
probably been rehoused through the

1200
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,240
ability for those private property

1201
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:41,840
insurance claims to be able to bring

1202
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,080
those apartment units back online. Where

1203
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,520
we need to focus attention on are

1204
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200
housing and duplexes. So of the ones

1205
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,840
that you typically want to care you

1206
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,800
really want to look at it is typically

1207
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,480
like the HUD wants severe, major high,

1208
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,360
major low, and they kind of stop there

1209
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,680
in the unmet needs analysis, but I don't

1210
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,440
want to look overlook the individuals

1211
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,240
that are in the minor high cuz $2,500 to

1212
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,080
$3,400 in personal property loss could

1213
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,520
be something that is their car got

1214
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,280
flooded or they probably got some type

1215
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,080
of water on the first floor to damage

1216
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,200
some type of furniture. So there FEMA

1217
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,280
gives them an award for personal

1218
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,720
property loss to be able to help them

1219
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,600
recover from a from a loss perspective

1220
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
for their personal property, but it does

1221
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,840
not allow them the opportunity to have

1222
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,800
the house rehab. It has to be done

1223
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,480
through other means. So

1224
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,680
with that, you know, early on in the key

1225
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
takeaways, I talked about 424 people

1226
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,840
living in those housing duplexes that I

1227
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,440
really want to focus

1228
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,360
the attention on those 47 renter

1229
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,680
households. That's going to be the ones

1230
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
that are in major high, major low, and

1231
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,280
minor high. Uh and just giving you an

1232
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,520
option an opportunity to understand how

1233
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,320
they probably may have been served uh is

1234
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,720
in the next slide.

1235
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,600
So um I'm very familiar

1236
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,800
>> put a fine point on that cuz just again,

1237
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,840
my takeaway as and at least this kind of

1238
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,440
goes back to what you're saying earlier.

1239
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,760
So when we look Let me go back just a

1240
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,360
second. when

1241
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,480
again, looking at this, understanding

1242
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,840
that personal property damage that

1243
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,360
renters experienced,

1244
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,280
as as Alisa said earlier, you can see in

1245
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,520
that minor low, it's likely that, you

1246
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,560
know, the the the power outage, the

1247
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,360
water outage caused that damage, right?

1248
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,560
So, fridge went out, lost all the food,

1249
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,520
freezer went out. That's where we're

1250
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,160
seeing that. But again, like trying then

1251
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,160
to zero in on where were impacts felt

1252
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,560
that maybe does not have a clear line of

1253
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,240
recovery, right? And so, again, as as

1254
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,840
Robbie points out, trying to understand,

1255
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,680
well, what is happening in the framework

1256
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,200
of single-family or landlord-owned

1257
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,760
single houses or duplexes, what are

1258
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,920
their options for recovery? Because our

1259
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
programs have been focused on

1260
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960
single-family homeowner-occupied, right?

1261
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,160
And new rental construction. But then,

1262
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,200
what is what is what is there for people

1263
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,200
who have been renting whole houses that

1264
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,720
may or may not have recovered. Um

1265
00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:00,800
And then, yes, when Robbie and I were

1266
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,520
talking about this, you know, one thing

1267
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,760
that we're tracking now is Renew NC's

1268
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,080
program for that underserved population.

1269
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,840
So, they are And And Robbie, take it

1270
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,880
away. I'll let you kind of walk us

1271
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,160
through this, and then we'll wrap up,

1272
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,560
cuz we have just a couple more slides.

1273
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:15,040
>> here as well.

1274
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,280
>> Yeah, go ahead.

1275
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,440
>> Does housing impact include things like

1276
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,760
private roads and bridges or access to

1277
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,240
the home?

1278
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,400
>> Um that would be

1279
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
it would be that would be typically the

1280
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:33,240
responsibility It depends on if it's a state-owned road, uh which

1281
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,360
>> private road, like driveway.

1282
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,600
>> Yeah, private road. I mean, you know,

1283
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,840
under the Renew NC program, they do

1284
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,080
allow a private property road to be a

1285
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,800
component of the

1286
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,800
eligible expense if it's the necessary

1287
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,680
egress for them to to leave it. But from

1288
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,240
the renter household perspective, I

1289
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,360
don't think that program

1290
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,920
I don't speak

1291
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,680
I don't know enough about

1292
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,280
the small rental program, but I don't

1293
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,640
think that was a component of that

1294
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,760
particular program. But it was something

1295
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,480
for the owner occupied um

1296
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,840
>> So it's included in these numbers here?

1297
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,720
>> Um for the renter for the LMI renter

1298
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:11,640
households?

1299
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,160
>> Yeah, access to their property or to

1300
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:14,400
their

1301
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,880
>> No, it's it's not

1302
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,760
but I can do some more research. I can

1303
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,280
get back to you on that. I mean, you

1304
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,760
know, I ran a very very similar program

1305
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,920
to this in Louisiana called the

1306
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,440
Louisiana neighbor neighborhood program.

1307
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Um we it was a $47 million program that

1308
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,160
we did about 339 units out of it. Um

1309
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,480
what's different in this program is that

1310
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,200
if you if you go to the

1311
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,600
Let's go to the renewal one. The

1312
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,160
difference in this program is $57

1313
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,360
million.

1314
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,400
They have capped max caps awarded

1315
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,680
$450,000

1316
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,560
per project. So that's where I'm

1317
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,320
thinking maybe they do have the right away access to those roads if

1318
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640
you're saying that up to $1.5 million

1319
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,800
could be an eligible project because

1320
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,240
typically the fourplexes don't

1321
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,440
necessarily need $1.5 million to cover

1322
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,280
so maybe they do have access roads that

1323
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,720
I could look look more into that to see

1324
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,760
what the eligible uses could be.

1325
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,534
Um

1326
00:49:07,534 --> 00:49:07,920
>> [snorts]

1327
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,960
>> And then I'll I'll just share too. So

1328
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,080
when we So this program is now the

1329
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,080
application period is has concluded as far as I understand and we're just

1330
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,160
tracking again, this is a a public

1331
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,200
dashboard that Renew and See populates

1332
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,720
on their website. You can hover over the

1333
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,320
different counties and we saw that 32

1334
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,640
applications have been received for

1335
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,280
Buncombe County.

1336
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
So it's just again a point of reference.

1337
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Um

1338
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,360
And I think just checking time right

1339
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,400
quick Robbie, any final questions? This

1340
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,080
was the conclusion of Robbie's slide and

1341
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,560
then we'll turn it over to Buncombe

1342
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,080
County's

1343
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,594
>> Yeah, I think

1344
00:49:41,594 --> 00:49:41,640
>> [clears throat]

1345
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080
>> the bigger impact for these renters is

1346
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,160
that where you see property personal

1347
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,320
property damage, you saw likely saw

1348
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,480
property damage which isn't covered by

1349
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,040
this program, but these were all

1350
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,320
low-to-moderate income households,

1351
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,840
likely renting in older apartments as

1352
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,400
those landlords made improvements to

1353
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,960
those important apartments and the

1354
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,360
leases came up for renewals, the rents

1355
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,960
went up. And what we're seeing is that

1356
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,440
people are being displaced because they

1357
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,120
can't afford the increase in rents.

1358
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,560
So, this

1359
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,160
that property damage and then the

1360
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,880
insurance coverage for it is creating

1361
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,400
displacement in the community amongst

1362
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,080
this group of people and that's a lot of

1363
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360
people just to displace. If you go back

1364
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,800
to the slides, I mean

1365
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,120
you could you know, if you got even amongst those people who

1366
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,720
are down in the lowest category, you

1367
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:31,720
could have water damage in units, people

1368
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:33,040
are coming and replacing ceilings,

1369
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,480
painting units, replacing appliances,

1370
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,640
and then those apartments all become

1371
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,200
unaffordable.

1372
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,680
And I think that's the real crisis

1373
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,960
that's occurred in the community for

1374
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160
those individuals. It's not the loss of

1375
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,400
a couch, it's the loss of their unit.

1376
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,520
>> Absolutely agree.

1377
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,880
>> Right, cuz cuz that's what we were

1378
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,160
correlating, right? Is that what we're

1379
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,360
seeing here is your personal property

1380
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,240
damage, whether it's your couch or your

1381
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,640
you know, materials in your home, your

1382
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,240
stuff.

1383
00:50:58,240 --> 00:50:58,800
>> Right.

1384
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,520
>> But really that correlation of dwelling

1385
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,640
damage is is is is got to be very high.

1386
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,920
So, when you see a lot of property

1387
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,480
personal property damage, you got to

1388
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,480
know that that structure's got to be

1389
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,720
>> Yes.

1390
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:09,720
>> challenged, too.

1391
00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,080
>> And then once you rehab a unit, then you

1392
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,240
can charge more money for it. It's not a

1393
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:16,480
$1,100 a month unit, it's a $1,400 a

1394
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,720
month unit.

1395
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:20,000
>> Yeah, the beauty of the renewal and CDBG

1396
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,960
program is that the any person partaking

1397
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,200
as a landlord in this program would have

1398
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,280
to have a 10-year affordability

1399
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,600
commitment on the on the unit that

1400
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,400
served. So,

1401
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,960
um while those person those individual

1402
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,440
might have been displaced because their

1403
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,960
unit was became you know,

1404
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,280
uninhabitable, with the actual

1405
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,560
rehabilitation reconstruction of this

1406
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,920
single-family duplex street tri's or

1407
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,360
quads,

1408
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,320
the landlords have to rent to LMI

1409
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,440
households and it's rent restricted for

1410
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,310
10 years in that program.

1411
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,800
» But that's the

1412
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,840
>> So you really want to bring more of

1413
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,360
those programs

1414
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,120
>> 32 households that got covered by that

1415
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,960
program?

1416
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,040
>> Well, that's Yeah.

1417
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,520
>> Yeah. That's what it was.

1418
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,120
>> No one's covered yet.

1419
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,960
>> It's just in in application. So

1420
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,000
um

1421
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Okay.

1422
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,600
I'm keeping time for you, Josh. So if we

1423
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,120
need to move on um

1424
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,440
>> That seems okay.

1425
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,240
>> Yeah. Uh thank you, Robbie, for that.

1426
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:21,680
was really helpful. Um I think it'd

1427
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,480
be good cuz we got public comments still

1428
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,840
and it'd be good to make sure that we

1429
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,280
give um LTRG at least 20 minutes. So

1430
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,640
thank you, Robbie. Um

1431
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,960
for the next

1432
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,600
presentation here, um

1433
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,880
we are going to have a uh presentation

1434
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,360
from the long-term recovery group.

1435
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,360
They'll have 20 minutes.

1436
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,840
Um and uh Sarah Roth will be doing the

1437
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,600
presentation. Um

1438
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,040
>> Great. It's

1439
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,280
12:55. So we'll have like at least until

1440
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,640
1:15.

1441
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,000
>> Okay. And that's for the full thing

1442
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,360
including

1443
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,200
both parts, right?

1444
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,560
>> Yeah.

1445
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,160
>> Okay.

1446
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,160
>> Yeah. I think we can go like a hair over

1447
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,400
if we need to.

1448
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,640
How much public comment do we do we

1449
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,720
have?

1450
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,600
>> We No, we don't really We don't have too

1451
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,280
much public comment.

1452
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,360
>> Oh, yeah. So we can go a little past

1453
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,040
that.

1454
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,400
>> Past that's fine. And is it okay um um

1455
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,120
like the other presentation to ask

1456
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,080
questions during?

1457
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,560
>> Totally.

1458
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,280
>> Okay. Great.

1459
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,160
>> Yeah.

1460
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,960
Great. Awesome. Well, thanks for having

1461
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,720
me. Um my name is Sarah Roth. I'm the

1462
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,240
interim executive director for the

1463
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,600
Buncombe County Long-Term Recovery

1464
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,800
Group. I'm also the senior director of

1465
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,400
community resilience at United Way. So I

1466
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,440
kind of wear dual hats um in this role.

1467
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,360
Um and yeah, if you want to just go

1468
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,720
ahead and go to the first slide, I

1469
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:33,320
wanted to give a little bit of sort of

1470
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,080
context setting around sort of who we

1471
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,760
are and what we do.

1472
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,280
Um and a lot of what we think about, we

1473
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,520
really handle household level recovery.

1474
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,840
So it's really on that individual basis.

1475
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,320
Households apply if they need

1476
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,880
assistance, and then we're working with

1477
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,360
them through the process. So, our

1478
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,280
process, we think of it as a four-step

1479
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,240
process. We have our intake. Um it is an

1480
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,760
online form that captures their

1481
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,040
household information, demographics, um

1482
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,600
their damage self-reported damage

1483
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,120
assessment. Um and then we basically

1484
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,640
take that information, and it gets

1485
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,520
prioritized based on the household. So,

1486
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,480
looking at factors, is it a household

1487
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,120
with children? Is it a household with

1488
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,640
seniors? Did they have severe damage or

1489
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,920
minor damage? Did they get insurance?

1490
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,840
All those things sort of roll up into

1491
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,880
somebody's prioritization.

1492
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,360
And then we take that and then determine

1493
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,480
their eligibility for um full case

1494
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,640
management. Um and so, we have different

1495
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,280
case management agencies. So, like Nikki

1496
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,720
said earlier, if we've so many different

1497
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,080
partners in our community that are

1498
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,400
already doing work, we're partnering

1499
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,680
with a lot of those agencies to provide

1500
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,240
wraparound case management services. So,

1501
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,720
once we sort of get a case out a

1502
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,000
household out to our partners, they then

1503
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,720
work with them to identify what are

1504
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,880
their remaining needs. Let's develop a

1505
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,200
recovery plan and help them see through

1506
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,280
getting connected to recovery resources.

1507
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,360
So, right now, um we have a couple

1508
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,000
different recovery resources that are

1509
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,280
available. So, we do have a construction

1510
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,640
um program. It is not us doing direct

1511
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,640
construction work. Again, it's a partner

1512
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,160
network of construction partners. So,

1513
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,600
we're working with places like Fuller

1514
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,680
Center, Disaster Rebuilders, Valley Hope

1515
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,840
Foundation, a number of different

1516
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,200
agencies that we can then say, "Here's

1517
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,080
this household. We have this identified

1518
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,520
need." and match them with that partner.

1519
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,920
Um we have data sharing agreements with

1520
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,440
both FEMA and renew. Um and so, when a

1521
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,520
case comes in, we are able to match with

1522
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,840
the FEMA data, so we can then identify

1523
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,120
what this person has received from FEMA.

1524
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,960
And then we also have a part a data

1525
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,880
sharing with Renew, so that we can

1526
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,560
understand is this somebody that's

1527
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,720
already in the Renew pipeline, so we

1528
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,080
just need to support them with case

1529
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,640
management, or is it someone that was

1530
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,360
denied or withdrew from Renew and get an

1531
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,200
understanding of why that is and then

1532
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,840
figure out what partner we might want to

1533
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,840
what match them with.

1534
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Then we have TRA assistance, so the

1535
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,320
temporary relocation assistance. So,

1536
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,640
this is really moving needs, storage

1537
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:05,840
needs,

1538
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,760
um and in the future we'll have some

1539
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,120
temporary rental assistance that's just

1540
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,600
while someone is going through the

1541
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,360
rebuild time frame. Um so, it's really

1542
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,120
to cover that bridge funding, and a lot

1543
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,880
of these referrals we're getting from

1544
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,320
Renew. So, Renew can cover the overnight

1545
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,000
cost of somebody who is in their program

1546
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120
and has to be out of their unit while

1547
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,080
the rebuild is happening. They cannot be

1548
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,880
or the repair, they cannot be in their

1549
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,200
unit, so they have to vacate the home.

1550
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,640
They're then the they're paying for the

1551
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,360
overnight cost, but any of the moving

1552
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,840
truck, a storage unit, anything like

1553
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,320
that is not covered. So, those referrals

1554
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,760
are coming to us to help meet that need

1555
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,520
either through volunteer support or

1556
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
through financial assistance.

1557
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,840
We also then have a fund available for

1558
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,720
moving supplies and try to connect

1559
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,400
people to if they need a mattress or a

1560
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,440
washer dryer, something like that, so we

1561
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,720
have that available. And then we do have

1562
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:03,760
a bucket of sort of

1563
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,960
flexible financial assistance, right?

1564
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Where it's those

1565
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,040
last minute needs that are still

1566
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,720
unaddressed that they weren't able to

1567
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,000
meet either through their FEMA

1568
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,760
assistance or they didn't apply or

1569
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,480
anything like that, we can help them

1570
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,720
meet those remaining needs for those

1571
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,840
homes.

1572
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,080
>> I think I see one one question up there.

1573
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Elise, do you have a question?

1574
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,680
>> Yes, um I'm sorry if I missed this, but

1575
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,760
is is the long-term recovery group part

1576
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,680
of the Buncombe County government or is

1577
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,120
this a different organization that's

1578
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,160
>> Yeah, it's different. Yeah, so

1579
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
we are separate right now. United Way is

1580
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,120
the fiscal sponsor and staffing partner

1581
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,600
for this and it is a collaboration of a

1582
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:45,800
number of different partner

1583
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,760
organizations who are all doing the

1584
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,040
work.

1585
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,800
This all began sort of really quickly

1586
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,840
after the storm. FEMA approached United

1587
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,520
Way and was basically like, "So,

1588
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,480
typically after a storm a long-term

1589
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,280
recovery group forms." Right? We're

1590
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,480
like, "I've never heard of this before."

1591
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,000
Learned a lot about it, tried to figure

1592
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,040
it out and it's really to cover the gaps

1593
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,120
that FEMA leaves behind in essence,

1594
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,640
right? We know FEMA assistance does not

1595
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,440
cover enough

1596
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,560
and so it's really trying to connect

1597
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,760
with a lot of the community partners who

1598
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,240
are doing the work. We have a lot of

1599
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,200
agencies that came into our community

1600
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,200
who are doing rebuilds or providing

1601
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,280
support. We have a lot of kind of

1602
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,640
homegrown organizations that started up

1603
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,760
right after the storm and so this is a

1604
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,640
network of folks that are trying to all

1605
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,640
work together. So, it's it's supporting

1606
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,600
that household journey and then bringing

1607
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,680
those partners together so everyone is

1608
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,600
working together.

1609
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,760
>> And what is the source of funding?

1610
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,080
>> We have a number of different sources.

1611
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,600
It's all Right now, it's all grants. So,

1612
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,480
we have a large grant from Red Cross

1613
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,200
right now which is our predominant

1614
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
source but we have other grants from

1615
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,560
Dogwood, from United Way North Carolina,

1616
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,960
the United Way here, WNC Bridge

1617
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,480
Foundation. So, we have small buckets

1618
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,600
from different sources but it's all

1619
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,560
private dollars so there's no state or

1620
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,760
federal funding for it.

1621
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,680
>> Thank you very much.

1622
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,960
>> Yeah.

1623
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080
>> Okay, so I have a question.

1624
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,040
So, you're saying that I know that you

1625
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,560
say you get a lot of your clients from

1626
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,160
Renew NC.

1627
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,160
Um working with them. So,

1628
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,520
you're and then also stated that a lot

1629
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,480
of your funding there's really no state

1630
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,840
and federal

1631
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,520
stipulations. Is Is that what I'm

1632
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,280
hearing as far as like how you can help

1633
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,400
a family?

1634
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,360
>> Yeah, and so the clients we're getting

1635
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,480
for Renew are just that temporary

1636
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,240
relocation assistance. We're not

1637
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,960
necessarily that's not our case

1638
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,000
management services. [snorts] So it's

1639
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,600
just that one bucket. Um but yes, that's

1640
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,280
correct. I mean, we're getting referrals

1641
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,720
from Renew, but there is no state

1642
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,160
funding for the support around storage

1643
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,160
or moving. So we are using the

1644
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,880
philanthropic dollars that we have

1645
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,160
through grants to support that.

1646
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,240
>> So I mean, what I'm asking is so I'm

1647
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,000
working with several families and

1648
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,760
um I've been in some of these long-term

1649
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,520
recovery meetings with with different

1650
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,400
groups and stuff that are that are

1651
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,000
working toward different, you know,

1652
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,640
talking about different resources and

1653
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,160
things that they have. So the families

1654
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,880
that I'm working with, they do not meet

1655
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,920
the requirements up under Renew

1656
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,800
uh for different reasons, which I won't

1657
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,640
take a lot of time with right now.

1658
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:26,840
>> Yeah.

1659
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,720
>> Uh

1660
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,400
and um two of them don't, but one of

1661
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,080
them has been up under Renew, I guess

1662
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,640
we're going on like a year and a half

1663
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,200
now waiting to see if this family is

1664
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,400
going to finally get to their home and

1665
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,440
their roof is caving in. But um the

1666
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,760
other two, one of them they really could

1667
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,960
not meet the guidelines up under Renew

1668
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,360
for different reasons. So I'm wondering

1669
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,280
and from from hearing you what you just

1670
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,720
said,

1671
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,200
making a connection with your

1672
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,960
organization to see if there's something

1673
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,920
because we also one of our other

1674
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,000
families is receiving a lot of support

1675
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,240
from the Red Cross

1676
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:02,640
>> Mhm.

1677
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,880
>> because um they were they were denied

1678
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,640
different things by Renew. But the other family, we're still like

1679
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,600
working with the city of Asheville as

1680
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,240
far as like getting stormwater stuff

1681
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,680
taken care of so that

1682
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,840
organizations can actually come on and

1683
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,680
build the home and get these families

1684
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,240
back into their own

1685
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,280
So, I would love to have your your

1686
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,320
information so that I can make that

1687
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,640
connection and just see

1688
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,080
have a conversation as to see if this is

1689
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,960
something, some type of wraparound

1690
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,160
support that you can provide for these

1691
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,360
families and meet with these families.

1692
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:43,240
>> Yeah, that does I mean that is what our purpose is is to fill the gap that

1693
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,720
other services are not able to fill and

1694
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,920
because our money is not state money,

1695
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,000
it's a lot more flexible in terms of the

1696
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,640
requirements.

1697
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,960
Um and so those are definitely folks

1698
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,440
that you could, you know, we could

1699
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,360
support and try to get connected to case

1700
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,480
management and then work through. So,

1701
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,160
absolutely and I'm realizing I should

1702
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,720
have put all the contact information on

1703
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,400
the slides and I didn't so I will make

1704
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,320
sure that all of that gets to Nikki and

1705
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,440
goes out to you all. Um but yeah, so

1706
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,200
this is just high-level kind of where

1707
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,560
we're at number wise. Um so we've had

1708
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,000
and we started doing intake in August of

1709
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,000
25.

1710
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,200
Um and so to date we've had 1,162

1711
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,280
households um through our intake. We

1712
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,520
currently have 408 active case

1713
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,280
management cases and that's through the

1714
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,480
partner network of eight case management

1715
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,240
agencies. We have 123

1716
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,840
construction cases in our pipeline so

1717
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,920
those are all households that have done

1718
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,080
the intake and then identified that they

1719
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,560
have a home repair need specifically.

1720
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,480
We have done rounds of just general

1721
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,720
rental assistance as well as eviction

1722
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,520
prevention so a little over a million

1723
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,120
dollars specifically around rental and

1724
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,160
eviction prevention and then um a little

1725
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,480
over 300,000 dollars specifically on the

1726
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,000
construction support. Um so we're able

1727
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,080
to provide those construction partners

1728
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,840
that are doing the work with material

1729
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,960
funds or contractor costs um on the

1730
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,560
project by project basis.

1731
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Go ahead.

1732
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:19,880
A little bit about who we're serving.

1733
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,880
So, um in April, home repair sort of

1734
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,040
bumped to number one for us in terms of

1735
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,200
what folks were identifying as a need

1736
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,600
coming through our web portal. Um we

1737
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,680
have predominantly under 80% AMI. That

1738
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,000
is not a requirement for our services

1739
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,600
because of that prioritization that I

1740
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,280
talked about earlier. It sort of all

1741
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,120
rolls up that in theory you could have

1742
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,520
someone with a little bit higher, but

1743
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,320
high household needs and high damage. Um

1744
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,360
and really about half of our folks are

1745
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,800
under 30% AMI.

1746
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Um rural households, about a little over

1747
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,160
half. That's a self-identification.

1748
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,680
So, it's not like a USDA designation or

1749
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,160
anything like that. That's just someone

1750
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,280
identifying that, you know, our is a

1751
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,040
rural property.

1752
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,840
Um and then about a quarter for

1753
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,560
households with a disability, households

1754
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,960
with children, or households with

1755
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,880
seniors. Um and then about 8% um are

1756
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,960
Spanish-speaking households. And then I

1757
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,560
didn't have as a chart cuz we've only

1758
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,800
done it for about a month. We've started

1759
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,760
tracking um race data. Um and so, in

1760
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,640
July, we had it was about 69% white, 19%

1761
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,600
black or African-American, and 8%

1762
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,760
American Indian or Alaskan Native. So,

1763
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,240
that's a new We're trying to, you know,

1764
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,520
use this information to then also help

1765
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,480
do outreach to make sure that we're

1766
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,480
reaching communities that maybe

1767
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,680
historically weren't accessing services.

1768
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,160
So, we can use this data to help inform

1769
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,320
um our outreach plan.

1770
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,800
Go ahead.

1771
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,360
Um the So, the housing assistance I

1772
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,400
mentioned earlier, again, it was about

1773
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,280
600,000 for eviction prevention, and

1774
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,120
then 480 for rental assistance. Both of

1775
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,040
those had to be storm-impacted.

1776
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Um but the eviction prevention was very

1777
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,560
specifically tied to enrolled in case

1778
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,040
management and they're facing eviction.

1779
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,520
Whereas, the rental assistance, they did

1780
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,120
not need to be in case management, but

1781
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,200
they just needed um

1782
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,960
they had a storm impact and needed

1783
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:15,360
rental assistance. And we worked with

1784
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,760
the six different partner agencies to

1785
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,520
administer these funds. So, um like

1786
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,280
Eblin Charities, Grace Covenant

1787
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,880
Presbyterian Church. So, a number of

1788
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,440
different partners who were actually the

1789
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,040
ones administering that fund. And at

1790
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,000
this point most of that is now spent.

1791
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,080
So, there really isn't much in terms of

1792
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,840
the eviction prevention or general

1793
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,920
rental assistance. Um and really as that

1794
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,840
has sort of winded down and as we get

1795
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,760
further from the storm it gets harder

1796
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,560
and harder to tie specifically

1797
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,960
like a rental assistance need back to

1798
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,880
the storm. So, at the moment we're

1799
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,160
really focusing on that temporary rental

1800
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,920
assistance for folks who are going

1801
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,400
through a rebuild or repair to provide

1802
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,480
that sort of bridge um assistance.

1803
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,560
Go ahead.

1804
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,880
This is that temporary relocation. So,

1805
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,640
right now we've received a little over

1806
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,840
100 referrals. These are outside of

1807
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,440
those numbers I shared earlier. So,

1808
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,560
these are separate cases coming straight

1809
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,880
from Renew.

1810
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,400
Um that really Renew like I said is

1811
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,120
paying for those overnight costs and

1812
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,360
then we're identifying any of those sort

1813
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,960
of supplementary needs. Needing to move

1814
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,800
out of the home, they need a storage pod

1815
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,200
on their property, or they need a

1816
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,760
storage unit. Um some is pet boarding or

1817
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,240
just challenges with housing um because

1818
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,800
right now a lot of contractors are

1819
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,560
trying to they're finding hotels, but

1820
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,000
that hotel won't allow a pet. And so,

1821
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,800
we're trying to help folks sort of

1822
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,720
navigate through that temporary

1823
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,720
relocation assistance process and um

1824
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,080
it's long and complicated. So.

1825
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,480
Um construction. So, here's sort of um

1826
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,440
and these numbers the numbers here are a

1827
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,000
little different than the numbers there

1828
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,400
cuz I pulled them at different times. I

1829
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,240
probably should have double checked

1830
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,280
that. But, so we have 36 active

1831
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,040
projects. So, those are ones that are

1832
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,600
matched with one of our construction

1833
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,920
partners.

1834
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,640
Um 119

1835
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,480
um in the pipeline. I know the previous

1836
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,400
one I think said 123, but you know, they

1837
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,480
shifted as they close. So, those are

1838
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:15,960
ones who have identified a home repair

1839
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,360
need. That eight completed projects is

1840
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,800
actually now 13 as of this morning. So,

1841
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,320
we have 13 completed projects. And then

1842
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,360
we have seven partner agencies that have

1843
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,520
those 36 projects. And this is a map

1844
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,680
that sort of shows

1845
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,400
the construction projects that have

1846
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,360
completed our pre-screens. So, that

1847
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,880
means they've actually filled out the

1848
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,800
form and submitted their

1849
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,160
homeowner documentation, any sort of

1850
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,720
income verification. So, that's where

1851
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:46,880
sort of

1852
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:47,760
the

1853
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,520
general area of where we've received

1854
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,080
most of our

1855
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,280
completed ones. Yeah.

1856
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,000
>> a question. Yeah, I've always been

1857
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,480
interested in in getting more home

1858
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,960
repair data.

1859
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,920
Do you have like a cost per

1860
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:02,320
unit data and just any other kind of

1861
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,240
qualitative or anecdotal data on the the

1862
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,040
types of repairs that you're seeing?

1863
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,880
>> Yeah, it's really varied. And a lot

1864
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,960
happens where, you know, so there's

1865
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,440
doing another presentation today that

1866
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,760
actually has a few of those. So, it's

1867
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,440
great. It's good practice for me. But,

1868
01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:19,799
so

1869
01:08:19,799 --> 01:08:21,880
some that like they'll get referred for

1870
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,400
one problem that they've identified. So,

1871
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,600
we had one that was basically referred

1872
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,040
to us for an HVAC that got flooded. So,

1873
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,759
they were sort of working on that. But,

1874
01:08:30,759 --> 01:08:32,279
then the partner that went out there

1875
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:33,839
actually identified there was an

1876
01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:36,279
additional roof need. So, like then

1877
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,440
being able to pull that together and you

1878
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:39,720
know, we were able to provide the

1879
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,240
funding for that to be completed. That

1880
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,359
partner pulled in a lot of volunteers

1881
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:46,200
and other donated

1882
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,920
materials to be able to pull that

1883
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,680
project off. So, it kind of takes that

1884
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,560
sort of multi-point. The other is like

1885
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,000
filling a gap for things cuz we have one

1886
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,120
referral that came in that was denied

1887
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,440
through another program because someone

1888
01:08:59,440 --> 01:09:02,200
in the house is undocumented, but the

1889
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,319
homeowner is a US citizen. But they were

1890
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,960
denied services and so they have now

1891
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,480
come through us and they're going to get

1892
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,440
they were in a mobile home and are now

1893
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:14,040
going to get a stick-built home on the

1894
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,359
property. So it really is case-by-case

1895
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:20,799
and it varies. In terms of spend, we we

1896
01:09:20,799 --> 01:09:23,000
do have a cap on what we can spend. So

1897
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,759
right now it's about 10 to 15,000 for a

1898
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:29,880
repair and then it's 40 to 60,000 for a

1899
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,480
full rebuild, which we know is not

1900
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:34,520
enough for a full rebuild, right? Who

1901
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,600
can build a house for $60,000? Nobody.

1902
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,080
Um and so it really that's where the

1903
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,240
collaborative network comes in that if

1904
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,400
we have a partner that can bring some of

1905
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,520
the funding that they have, we can put

1906
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,680
in some additional funding, pulling in

1907
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,200
volunteers for the labor in order to do

1908
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,200
it and then pulling in like the moving

1909
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,760
supplies, the furniture and donated and

1910
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,720
things like that. So trying it's it's a

1911
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,640
piecemeal together kind of process um at

1912
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,680
for each individual household. Um so

1913
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,200
yeah, the the projects really truly

1914
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,800
vary. Now we're seeing a couple more

1915
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,040
where it's a access issue in addition to

1916
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,000
a home repair issue. So they can't start

1917
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,240
the project until the access issue is

1918
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,600
solved. Like the private road, private

1919
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,640
driveway, all those pieces that that

1920
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,080
needs to be solved first before a home

1921
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,160
repair can be solved. And we do have two

1922
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,240
partners that are really doing sort of

1923
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,920
private road and bridge repair, which

1924
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,240
has been huge because I said that you

1925
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,320
can't start if you can't get there. Um

1926
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,520
especially if you need to get there with

1927
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,200
heavy machinery or anything like that.

1928
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,120
So

1929
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,240
yeah, it's not enough. You know, some of

1930
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,200
the state budget, you know, has funding

1931
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,680
um for more rebuilds. We had done when

1932
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,880
the um

1933
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,680
there was the emergency management VOAD

1934
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,720
grant that had come out. We had applied

1935
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,640
for that previously and tried to bump

1936
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:56,640
our

1937
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,560
um like full rebuild cost to like 110.

1938
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,160
But we didn't get approved that time.

1939
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,880
Hopefully we will be able to apply this

1940
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,480
time and and do

1941
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,080
get approved for another round. But

1942
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,680
yeah, the cost is challenging when

1943
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,840
funders are restricted on how much you

1944
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,240
can spend per project.

1945
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,200
Yeah.

1946
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,120
And then this is just a map of sort of

1947
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,720
the ones that are in pre-screen. So

1948
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,680
these are just the households that have

1949
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,600
been sent the screener. They haven't

1950
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,400
necessarily filled it out yet. Not all

1951
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,840
of these will come through. Some folks

1952
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,440
may have filled this out because they

1953
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:33,040
were like, "It's not happening with

1954
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,520
Renew. I'm going to fill this out." and

1955
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,240
then actually finds out that they can

1956
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,160
get through Renew. So there some will

1957
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,960
fall off

1958
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,600
of this map, but this is just sort of

1959
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,680
that basically that 120 that's in the

1960
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,080
pipeline is this crew.

1961
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:52,120
So yeah, really sort of our

1962
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,160
the partnerships are key for us because

1963
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,640
like I said, there's so many different

1964
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,840
you need to pull in funding from

1965
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,880
multiple sources, pulling in volunteers,

1966
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,000
all of those pieces. So we're really

1967
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,680
committed to taking on the households

1968
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,640
that fall through the gap. We know that

1969
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,920
there's a lot in the Renew program who

1970
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,880
withdraw, right? Renew has also limits

1971
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,160
in if it's above a $100,000 repair, then

1972
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,120
it triggers a full rebuild. And someone

1973
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,520
who needs 101,000 might be like, "I

1974
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,400
don't want a new house. I just want this

1975
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,360
fixed." right? So those folks might be

1976
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,720
withdrawing and therefore coming to us,

1977
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,000
but then that's still a $100,000

1978
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,600
rebuild, right? Or repair.

1979
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,720
So we're we're trying to figure out how

1980
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,200
we can fill those gaps and sort of

1981
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,720
sustain that

1982
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,600
over time. So sustained funding is

1983
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,560
really important for us. We know that

1984
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,640
case management is a key part of the

1985
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,520
process. Navigating this process alone

1986
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,720
when you need so many different things.

1987
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,560
You also have, you know, sort of the

1988
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,320
trauma from experiencing it all, but

1989
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,560
having somebody walk alongside you

1990
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,400
through this process is really critical.

1991
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,120
So, we're trying to sustain that network

1992
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,960
of case management agencies that can

1993
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,440
connect people to those recovery

1994
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:05,240
services. And then just sort of ongoing

1995
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,760
coordination between the different

1996
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,800
entities that are doing different pieces

1997
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,240
of the work, like Renew, like the city,

1998
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,400
Buncombe County, all sort of trying to

1999
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,000
stay connected is a big part of what

2000
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,760
we're doing, too, to just make sure that

2001
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,440
we're not all duplicating or um

2002
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:23,040
yeah. So, we're sort of staying in touch

2003
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,280
with each other.

2004
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,040
And I'm going to pass now to Miguel. Um

2005
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,400
we um originally had someone um a case

2006
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,400
manager from one of our partner agencies

2007
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,160
who was going to come. She was not able

2008
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,560
to, so Miguel, who is our case

2009
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,440
management lead with the long-term

2010
01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:41,320
recovery group, helps work with those

2011
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,400
eight partner agencies across the

2012
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,160
network. Um so, he's going to talk a

2013
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,720
little bit about some of the sort of

2014
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,360
day-to-day, like what does that look

2015
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:53,470
like for case managers.

2016
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:54,520
» How's it going, everyone? My name is

2017
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,400
Miguel Hernandez. I'm the DCM lead for

2018
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,800
the Buncombe County long-term recovery

2019
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,600
group. Give you a little bit of context

2020
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,960
of what I do.

2021
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,880
Uh we have eight uh disaster case

2022
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,560
management agencies we work with and

2023
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,280
about 17 case managers across those

2024
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,320
agencies. My job is to coordinate with

2025
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,440
them,

2026
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:11,480
uh strengthen our network of

2027
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:13,880
partnership, do some supervision, and

2028
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,520
provide more guidance and training on

2029
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,960
case management.

2030
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,120
So, basically what we've seen

2031
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:19,720
um

2032
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,760
it's actually been for the past 2 years

2033
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,040
is um we have a bit of a

2034
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,800
So, we've done some uh some outreach to

2035
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,680
the community out here, but we're very

2036
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,560
internet focused, right? Our form is

2037
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,080
online. You know, that we partner up

2038
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,720
with uh Red Cross to do outreach to help

2039
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,120
people fill out their intake forms over

2040
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,320
the phone. Uh there are still folks in

2041
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,680
rural areas, our elderly folks, or

2042
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,880
people, you know, don't have internet

2043
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,680
who may have not heard of us, so we need

2044
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,280
to improve our outreach process is reach

2045
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,120
those communities.

2046
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,000
Right?

2047
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,960
Um other issues that we have is

2048
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,840
definitely housing. Housing's been the

2049
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,520
one issue until recently cuz this summer

2050
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,120
we did a big push for home repair

2051
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,080
outreach over across. But before that,

2052
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,960
right? How finding housing for people

2053
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:02,360
has been the biggest challenge,

2054
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,600
especially for folks who may not be able

2055
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,120
to find who whose homes were destroyed

2056
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,360
or displaced by the storm and not able

2057
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,560
to fulfill the three times rent requirements for a

2058
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,200
lot of these apartment complexes cuz

2059
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,520
it's the or the credit uh

2060
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,360
check requirements.

2061
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,360
Um that's been a big thing. So, our goal

2062
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,640
here for case management is to get the

2063
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,280
person back to

2064
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,960
baseline, right? Where were the they're

2065
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,920
for some or better than baseline. But a

2066
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,000
lot of this uh folks we're getting right

2067
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,760
now, especially 2 years after the storm,

2068
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,560
were never at baseline or their

2069
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,400
attachment to that baseline was 10 years

2070
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,560
at best. So, when we get folks 2 years

2071
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,200
in the storm, we're still finding people

2072
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,240
with the disabilities, the elderly, the

2073
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,840
undocumented, people chronic uh

2074
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,080
you know, health issues that don't allow

2075
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,440
them to work, people with chronic

2076
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:50,080
poverty issues, chronic homelessness.

2077
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,640
So, at this point um

2078
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,040
the cases we're getting are the ones

2079
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,600
that require the heavier touch, the re-

2080
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,240
the referral to resources that may not

2081
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:00,280
exist, and the access to funding that we

2082
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,120
don't have access to right now.

2083
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,720
Um as you can see here, right? The

2084
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,320
rental housing supply has shrunk. So,

2085
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,680
Helene damaged or destroyed about 6,500

2086
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,560
houses across the county.

2087
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,160
Um a lot of people are moving out of the

2088
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,720
state, out of the region, going to South

2089
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,320
Carolina cuz they just simply can't

2090
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:17,720
afford to live here. And that's what a

2091
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,160
lot of case managers

2092
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,600
are having to do. Assist people to move

2093
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,880
out of the area, people who grew up

2094
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:22,760
here,

2095
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,640
uh take their kids to schools here,

2096
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,080
who've been here for generations, can no

2097
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,760
longer afford to live here.

2098
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,760
Um another thing too is recently we're

2099
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,840
going to have a challenge wherein uh

2100
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,920
FEMA's temporary housing assistance

2101
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,720
is ending in Septem- is in September. A

2102
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,760
lot of those people who are there um

2103
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,320
already are clients of ours, but we do

2104
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,040
see we're going to see a bit of an

2105
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:45,240
influx at the end of September with

2106
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,320
folks coming to us for assistance. And

2107
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,840
these folks are like 2 years living in

2108
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,160
hotels or temporary Airbnbs.

2109
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,640
And when they come to us and we have to

2110
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,040
find a way to find housing, when you

2111
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,000
look at the housing stock, it's like

2112
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,200
it's it's tough out here.

2113
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,840
Um

2114
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,720
Yeah, and that's pretty much is the

2115
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,360
housing issue is the biggest one that

2116
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,000
we're facing at this point.

2117
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,160
Um

2118
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,520
Yes, any questions?

2119
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,200
>> I have a question. Are you having Do you

2120
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,000
Are you having any luck with ADA

2121
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,560
appliance

2122
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,080
ADA compliance apartments or housing

2123
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,120
for your people that you're supporting?

2124
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,120
>> I mean, yes and no. Um a lot of these

2125
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,120
housing

2126
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,240
Like if we're talking about affordable

2127
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,800
housing or elderly housing have long

2128
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,000
wait lists,

2129
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,840
for example, but also like what somebody

2130
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,120
can afford without going for those

2131
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,720
housing is

2132
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,400
especially with the elderly and disabled

2133
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,800
is a lot of the housing stock right

2134
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,960
there right, owned by private landlords,

2135
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,520
are not ADA compliant, are not,

2136
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,400
you know,

2137
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,880
um fit for people with disabilities to

2138
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,800
access. So, sometimes with the case

2139
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,080
managers, they have to work with what

2140
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,320
they have and may put somebody in a

2141
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,800
situation that's in a maybe a trailer

2142
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,120
that's moldy or doesn't have like a a

2143
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,600
ramp or just put somebody in there, but

2144
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,480
it's like better than

2145
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:03,640
person not having a place to stay. So,

2146
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,000
it's

2147
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,600
kind of like a

2148
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:12,310
case-by-case basis on that one.

2149
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,840
» So, you So, you're saying that the

2150
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,080
person may even identify

2151
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,880
particular mobile home, apartment, or

2152
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,480
house, whatever, and that up on that

2153
01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:26,240
identifying that home and they need ADA

2154
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,600
support, then your organization could

2155
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,480
possibly come in and maybe help put a

2156
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:32,240
ramp there so that they can move into

2157
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:33,280
the home.

2158
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,800
>> For us, I don't

2159
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,160
So, that's not something that that can

2160
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,440
do ourselves. We we try to guide the

2161
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:39,200
case managers

2162
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,720
>> with different organizations.

2163
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,080
>> Yeah, we try to make guide the case

2164
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,600
managers make referrals to other

2165
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,280
organizations that may have provide that

2166
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,920
service, but a lot of these

2167
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:50,000
organizations have long wait list or uh

2168
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,920
have lost funding.

2169
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,760
Um so for a lot of people it's it's the

2170
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,080
kind of wait and see approach to see if

2171
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,600
you even get approved for that kind of

2172
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,510
assistance.

2173
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:01,320
Sure.

2174
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,000
Go right ahead.

2175
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,840
>> Um the one thing I'll add to that is

2176
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,600
that if we do some what we do see is

2177
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,480
that um if someone received a

2178
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:11,040
construction, repair, or something that

2179
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,640
happened with another entity that didn't

2180
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,440
meet that requirement for them, we're

2181
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:17,080
getting that referral and then some of

2182
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:19,000
our partners are able to then fulfill

2183
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,760
that request. So if somebody does need a

2184
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,520
ramp that's put on then it's something

2185
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,520
that we can look at with our

2186
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,600
construction fund. Um it's not something

2187
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,720
we can really do with rental units. The

2188
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,480
problem, you know, with rental units you

2189
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,240
have it's you need the homeowner to

2190
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,240
approve any change, right? We can't just

2191
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,960
sort of go through with the renter needs

2192
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,240
that. So it's really in those homeowner

2193
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,080
occupied units. So if they did get

2194
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,840
something and then if the rebuild if a

2195
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,760
repair or a rebuild is happening through

2196
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,680
one of our partners, they will make sure

2197
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,600
that that is part of their process to

2198
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,960
make sure that those are accessible for

2199
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,440
those folks.

2200
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:54,720
>> Okay.

2201
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,920
So they if the homeowner says yes that

2202
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,080
you can make this change to their

2203
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,400
property and you're able to contract

2204
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,840
with someone, is that something that

2205
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:04,680
could happen?

2206
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,600
>> Yes. Yes, that can happen.

2207
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,240
>> Okay.

2208
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,240
>> But if it's um say the landlord is not

2209
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,000
responsive or not willing to have that

2210
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,520
work done then

2211
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,320
um

2212
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,120
so we can't really help with that.

2213
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,200
>> Correct.

2214
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,640
Yes.

2215
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:19,920
But there's an option.

2216
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,910
>> Yes, indeed.

2217
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,040
» I don't really have any questions, but I

2218
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,160
do want to say how uh much I appreciate

2219
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:29,480
the work that the long-term recovery

2220
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:31,640
group has done. The rental assistance

2221
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,640
has kept thousands of people in Buncombe

2222
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,120
County able to stay and I'm of course

2223
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,640
very concerned about that running out

2224
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:40,760
for what that's going to mean for our

2225
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:41,880
community.

2226
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,880
And the other thing I are you still

2227
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,280
looking for a chairperson for the

2228
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:47,800
subcommittee of the housing long-term

2229
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,200
recovery group? Okay, just want to make

2230
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,760
sure everyone on this group knows that

2231
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,760
the long-term recovery group for

2232
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,840
Buncombe County is looking for

2233
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,800
a chairperson for that role.

2234
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,240
It's a excellent group of people who are

2235
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,200
very connected to the work being done in

2236
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,000
our community. And so if anybody's

2237
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,520
interested in doing that, it's a good

2238
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:06,840
opportunity to I think you're taking

2239
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:13,550
applications, right? Yeah.

2240
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,160
» Almost out of time. Does anyone have any

2241
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:16,840
other questions? I had one but I wanted

2242
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,000
to make sure.

2243
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,800
>> Does this program, initiative, whatever

2244
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,120
you want to call it, does it have a

2245
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:27,360
sunset date or any type of timeline?

2246
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,040
>> So I'm going to give you like some

2247
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,600
something I heard from uh

2248
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,120
some of my colleagues over in the

2249
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,920
eastern part of the the state. The

2250
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,480
LTRG's in this part of the state have

2251
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,120
been going on for

2252
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,120
8 to 10 years cuz the construction is

2253
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,880
not something that goes

2254
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,160
from one day to the other. It's it's

2255
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,840
going to be a long-term. We're here to stay as long as funding is

2256
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:46,840
there.

2257
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,200
>> Okay, great. So there's not like a

2258
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,800
deadline. You're just going to keep

2259
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,840
doing your thing for as as long as you

2260
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,200
can to help all the people. All right,

2261
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:58,470
thank you.

2262
01:21:58,480 --> 01:21:59,360
» Uh

2263
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,400
Sarah and and Miguel, thank you very

2264
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,440
much for your time. I appreciate that.

2265
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:05,000
Um yeah. Um

2266
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,960
so we are now moving to public comment.

2267
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,080
But I don't believe we have any public

2268
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,390
comments. Is that

2269
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,160
» There was at least one that came in by

2270
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,160
email.

2271
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,800
>> One public comment came by email but

2272
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,960
otherwise I don't think we have any

2273
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,800
public comment. No one's in person here.

2274
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Yeah.

2275
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,200
>> Okay. Okay, no one is here. So

2276
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,160
move to my next page here.

2277
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,640
Okay, so no public comments. So um

2278
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,800
uh un- unless there's anything else, uh

2279
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,840
can I get a motion to adjourn?

2280
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,040
>> I move to adjourn.

2281
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:39,880
>> I'll second.

2282
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,400
>> Okay.

2283
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,360
so I would I have to go through

2284
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,302
the Okay.

2285
01:22:44,302 --> 01:22:44,360
>> [laughter]

2286
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,000
>> We normally just adjourn without a roll

2287
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,960
call, but if we get in trouble for that,

2288
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,240
I'm sorry. So.

2289
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,680
>> Great.