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City Council meeting. This television broadcast is brought to you by the local cable companies, the County of Kern and the City of Baker's Field. You can watch the rebroadcast of this meeting Saturday at 7 p.m. Sunday at 10 a.m. in the following Wednesday at 7 p.m.

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You can download the agenda for this meeting at www.bakersfieldcity.us.

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Presiding over this evening's meeting, the Honorable Mayor Karen K. Go.

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Good evening. It's my pleasure to call to order the 515 regular City Council meeting of August 26th,

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26th. Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Here.

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Council Member Aria.

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Here.

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Council Member Gonzalez.

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Council Member Weer.

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Council Member Smith.

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I'm here.

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Council Member Comin.

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Thank you, and welcome to all of you.

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Thank you so much for engaging in this civic process.

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Tonight we have an interpreter for Spanish speakers,

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and at this time I'd like to ask the interpreter to come forward

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and very quickly let the audience know that equipment is available in Spanish.

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Hola, muy buenas tardes a todos bienvenidos a esta reunión el día de hoy.

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El día de hoy vamos a tener interpretación simultánea a través de la reunión.

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Para accederale interpretación si tenemos el equipo justo atrás de la sala para que en

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aún no ha recibido equipo, cuando usted tenga comentario público, vamos a venir al

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frente con usted y acompañarle.

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Muchas gracias.

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Thank you.

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And if you're here to speak during the public statements portion of the meeting, you'll need

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to pre-register at the key asks, in the back, staff is there ready to assist you if needed.

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And before we begin, I'd like to acknowledge that per staff's recommendation, public

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hearing item 8A. That's the vesting tentative track map appeal. We'll be open and continue to

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the September 16th, 2026 City Council meeting. While the public can still make comments today,

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we encourage you to wait until that item is heard at our September 16th meeting.

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Tonight, we have the pleasure of having Father Jimmy Melon, who's vicar at St.

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Joseph's

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for your service to our community. I know your churches actively involve and food drives and outreach,

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and you just recently performed the wedding of our chair of the Keep Baker's Build Beautiful

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Committee. That was a beautiful ceremony. Following the invocation, Michelle Antonji Ivani,

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who is a senior at Garcis Memorial High School, will lead us in the pledge. Michelle is a forward

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She's here with her mentor and advisor Peggy.

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Michelle has a 4.8 GPA.

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She's national honor society member who has participated in five

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varsity sports over the last four years, including

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golf, cross country, track, lacrosse, soccer, and tennis.

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She's founder and president of the Uncampus Club got the dot.

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She's president of CSF, president of helping hands, student council president, and vice president of the best club.

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She's a leader of the Healthy Light Committee and the Interact Club,

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link her leader, Italian club leader, blood cancer, United Junior Leadership Board.

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She'll be asking you for money soon, and the got-to-dot off-campus leadership program.

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to show what an incredible person you are, and we're just so proud to have you in our community.

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Father, would you all please stand now?

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Let us gather for prayer.

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Almighty God, we give you thanks for the blessing of this community of Bakersfield,

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and for the men and women who have accepted the responsibility of serving its people.

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Grant Harris City Council the gift of wisdom and their decisions,

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assist them in their service, and bless them as they work for the common good.

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Bless the people of Baker's field, especially our families, our children, those who are most struggling at this time.

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Mayor City of Baker's field continue to grow in prosperity, peace, and goodwill.

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Guide all to participate in this meeting today that their deliberations may bear good fruit for our community.

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We ask this to Christ our Lord, amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Michelle would you like to officially introduce your advisor and you all may be seated.

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Just introduce who that person is with you.

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Okay, so to my left is, this is Peggy Rivera, she is the mentor and director of the Ford Dream Builders

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and Dimension Program, which I'm very excited to be a part of.

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And yeah, I look forward to getting to know her more throughout the course of the year.

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Thank you so much. Thank you, Michelle Father. Thank you so much.

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Here a few guidelines to help our meeting run smoothly. We request that you turn off your phones.

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Please be courteous in the use of cameras and videos for safety reasons and as a courtesy to others,

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no signs are loud in the council chamber or in the lobby.

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A pause is allowed during the presentation's portion of the meeting only,

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but not during other portions of the meeting.

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Everyone in attendance in person or by phone is expected to adhere to the rules of decorum.

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Establish by Resolution of the City Council. Failure to abide by the city's rules of decorum, including any disruptive

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behavior that interferes with our ability to have an orderly and efficient meeting prevents

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the city council from conducting the business of the city. Consider this a first warning to everyone

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participating that conduct that disrupts this meeting may result in expulsion and or the chambers

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being cleared. The favor that disrupts the meeting includes repetitive statements, shouting,

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hate speech, interrupting staff or presenters during the meeting, speaking out of turn,

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outbursts from the audience. Telephonic participants are expected to adhere to the same rules

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today, as those attending here in person. Madam Clerk, next item please.

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Please presentations item for a proclamation to Leslie Bloomquist and Mary Stanley of Baby Cafe Monica Delos Santos of Clinical Serivista Wick Marissa Reynoso Ortiz and KT Reynoso of Community Action Partnership of Kern Wick and Terriva Porter of the Kern County breastfeeding coalition declaring national breastfeeding month in Bakersfield during August 2026.

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Thank you, strengthening breastfeeding support and resources promotes healthier beginnings for children and families and contributes to the health and well-being of our community.

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It's my honor to read this proclamation.

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Whereas August is recognized nationally as national breastfeeding month and observance that raises awareness of the importance of breastfeeding and the benefits to infants, mothers, families and communities.

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And whereas breastfeeding provides infants with essential nutrition and protection, contributing

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to healthy growth and development while also benefiting the health of mothers and whereas

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organizations and professionals throughout Bakersfield and Kern County, including baby

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cup-baby Bakersfield, clinic SCR this week, community action partnership of Kern WIC and

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Kern County breastfeeding coalition worked year round to connect families with breastfeeding

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education, support, resources, and services. And whereas the City of Bakersfield is committed

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to supporting children and families within our community. Now, therefore, I, Karen Gomez,

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the City of Bakersfield, do hereby proclaim August 2026 as National breastfeeding month

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in our city and encourage all our residents, community organizations, health care providers, and

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families to recognize the importance of breastfeeding education, support, and resources.

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It's data, this 26-day of August. It's my honor to be able to present this proclamation.

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Good evening, Mayor, council members, and staff. My name is Marissa Reno, so, and I'm the

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WIC program administrator with CAPKM. Thank you for recognizing national breastfeeding

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and for joining us in celebrating the benefits of breastfeeding for mothers, babies, families, and our community.

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National breastfeeding month reminds us of the important role breastfeeding plays in supporting the health

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and well-being of both mothers and babies. The American Academy of Pediatric recommends breastfeeding exclusively for the first six months

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and continuing breastfeeding alongside solid foods through age two and beyond.

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It is also a time to recognize the incredible efforts of mothers who often through sleepless nights and busy days remain committed to nourishing their babies and giving them the healthiest possible start in life.

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Their dedication, perseverance and love deserve to be celebrated and supported.

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Today, I am honored to stand alongside our partners from Clinica, Sierra Vista, Baby Cafe,

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and the Kernan County breastfeeding coalition as we work together to support and power

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and advocate for breastfeeding families throughout Baker's field.

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Thank you again for your recognition and commitment to the health of our community.

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At this time, I would like to invite Reva to share a few remarks.

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Thank you, Marissa.

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So, my name is Reva.

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and IBCLC and the co-chair for the current county breastfeeding coalition. Our coalition brings

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together community partners to provide breastfeeding education, lactation support, resources,

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outreach events, and advocacy. Through compassionate support and collaboration, we empower

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parents to reach their breastfeeding goals while promoting the message that breastfeeding is natural

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and important.

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This world, this 2026 world breastfeeding month theme is rise, strengthen with works.

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Together we're strengthening families, educating and creating healthier beginnings for

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all of Kern County, and I'm going to pass it over to Mary.

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Good evening, everybody.

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My name is Mary Stanley, my name is Mary Stanley, I'm speaking to you on behalf of Baby

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We are a non-profit 501C organization providing cost-free professional breastfeeding support to our community and beyond.

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It is imperative that we recognize breastfeeding is a biological norm and create an environmental culture that makes it easier for mothers to breastfeed in public, breastfeed their babies in public and have access to breastfeeding support is needed.

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Multiple health care organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics,

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who, which is the World Health Organization, recommend exclusive breastfeeding for six months

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and continue breastfeeding for two years as complementary foods are added, and you just heard that.

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Increasing breastfeeding rates is a public health issue.

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The more babies that are breastfed and the longer they feed at breast, they healthier the community.

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is there are many, many health care benefits

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to both mothers and babies.

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Thank you for your consideration of recognizing August,

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2026, this world breastfeeding month,

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and improving this proclamation.

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And I'm going to introduce, I think it's Monica.

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Is that right?

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Okay, there we go.

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Thank you, man.

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You're welcome.

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My name is Monica de Los Santos.

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I am the breastfeeding coordinator

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with Clonica Seravista.

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Breastfeeding is one of the first and most powerful gifts the parent can give their child.

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In current county breastfeeding support helps families build a healthier future by improving outcomes for babies and parents alike.

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When we promote, protect and support breastfeeding, we strengthen not only individual families, but our entire community.

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Together, we are investing in the health, well-being and success of future generations.

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Thank you.

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One, two, three.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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Then we'll clear it next item, please.

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Presentations item 4B.

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Proclamation to Giselle Guerrero, President and Claudia Guerrero, Vice President of Gigi, the warrior, declaring childhood cancer awareness month in Bakersfield during September 2026.

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Colleagues childhood cancer is one of the leading causes of death for children in the United States.

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Each year nearly 16,000 children between birth and 19 years of age are diagnosed with cancer.

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Every three minutes, a family hears the devastating words that their child has been diagnosed with cancer.

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It's my honor to read this proclamation.

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Whereas cancer knows no boundaries affecting all ethnic and social economic groups.

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And whereas increase awareness and research will help educate the public on early diagnosis

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and provide readily accessible clinical care to patients in need and whereas dedicated

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health professional agencies and organizations have made it their mission to help children

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with cancer and provide educational emotional and financial support to their families and

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whereas children deserve the chance to dream big, discover new interests and live to their

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absolute potential while fighting the disease.

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Now, therefore, I Karen Gomez, the City of Bakersfield,

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do hereby proclaim September 2026 as childhood cancer awareness

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month in our city and urge all residents to join the city

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in reaffirming our commitment to fighting childhood cancer

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dated this 26 day of August.

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Judy, I know you've been through some, sorry,

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I mean, you've been through some challenging times with, um, with, G-G-N-O, and so inviting you now to

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office them.

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Thank you so much for your support.

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Good evening Mayor Go, members of the city, community leader, friends, and everyone else who's

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here today.

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Thank you, Mayor Go, for recognizing September as Childhood Cancer Awareness Month.

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This parking lot means so much to our family and to every family who has heard the words

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your child has cancer.

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For our family childhood cancer isn't just a cause, it's our story.

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On February 14th of 2019, our world changed when our daughter Gigi was diagnosed with leukemia.

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Gigi spent two and a half years going through intense treatment.

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There were difficult days, scary days, and days where we simply had to take things one day at a time.

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But through it all, Gigi showed us what strength courage and faith looks like.

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Today I am very grateful to say that Gigi is a childhood cancer survivor.

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As Fred is saying, to watch her move forward, I also know that her story is only one.

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Their children currently fighting cancer, family sitting in a hospital room, and parents praying for the same outcome that we were blessed to receive.

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That is why our awareness matters, September gives us an opportunity to make childhood cancer visible, to work gold, to talk about it, to support research, and to support the families and most importantly to make sure these children are never forgotten.

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The goal represents childhood cancer awareness that, to me, it also represents hope.

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DJ is living proof that there can be a life after childhood diagnosis.

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Her journey has inspired our family to turn experience into a purpose and to continue advocating for the children and families affected by cancer.

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So this September, I ask everyone to go goals with us, not just for DJ, but for every child fighting, every survivor and every family who has walked the journey.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much for using your voice, Fiji's voice, and we're proud of presenting.

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We're now moving on to public statements.

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In keeping with Council's resolution, the public statements portion is divided into two

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periods.

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There's a period for items listed on the meeting agenda and items not on the meeting agenda.

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Additionally, pursuant to changes in state law, the City Council will now accept public

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statements via phone and in person.

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Statements for items listed on tonight's agenda are given a two minute time limit 10 minutes for participants by phone and 10 minutes for person in person participants 20 minutes total per agenda item the consent calendar is a whole constitutes one agenda item

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Statements regarding items not listed on the agenda are given a two-minute time limit,

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ten minutes for participants by phone, and ten minutes for in-person participants,

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twenty minutes total.

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If you have written comments that are longer than your verbal statement,

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give them to the clerk who will give copies to the council.

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If you're here to make a public statement,

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please register using the kiosk in the back of the chambers where you entered

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staff or available to assist if needed.

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We ask that you select whether you're here to speak in an item listed on tonight's agenda, or in a matter not on the agenda.

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Speakers who do not identify specific agenda item will be presumed speakers for the non-agenda portion, and will be called during the non-agenda portion of the meeting.

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If you're here on consent calendar, public hearing item 7A or 7B or public hearing item 8A, that's the diamond farming company on vesting tentative track map appeal.

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Now, it's not the time to speak.

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You will be given an opportunity to speak when those items are called later in the meeting.

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Mental clerk, do we have any public speakers for items not listed on the agenda?

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Mayor Go, we have received four requests to speak by phone and 21 requests to speak in person.

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We will take the phone speakers first.

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There are only two by phone currently connected.

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The first speaker will be Alejandra Garcia, and as you can tell by that

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At number of speakers, we're going to run out of time, so I would ask that you make your comments

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succinctly, and we'll try to get in as many people as possible. Also, this is only our third

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time using this new system, and so if we have a few challenges, we're just going to give

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each other a great sign, and I hope you'll do that also. Madam Clerk, first speaker, please.

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to cost baby sales, including any baby sales to build out here,

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save your neighborhood.

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We're here to remind you that we want the setting to succeed in creating a general

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plan that works for every part of baby sales, not just the field.

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We have read with the data

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that is in the map show

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to 20 years between

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the two babies,

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population, the families, and

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the technical stuff in this

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office continues to lead

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Graclie, I'm sure you will.

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Don't worry.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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This is García.

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Next speaker please.

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Let me look.

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Diary.

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Esther.

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Diary.

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Diary.

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Yes.

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Diary.

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Diary.

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at a state and healthy neighborhood committee.

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Since then, not committee has been being twice,

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but has yet to approach the topic of block.

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Meanwhile, we need to address things.

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We also the town hall allowed one day and over 50 people showed up

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to learn more about this technology

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and to share their own concerns.

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City Council members may air by fair staff

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and the big deal of police department

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were notably absent from the student

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and informative discussion.

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In fact, instead of engaging in direct dialogue with us,

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BPD has been busy taking shots that are concerned in the media, and in some cases has given

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them information that directly contradicts what they have told us.

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BPD allegedly has a call to be requiring officers to include case numbers and false database

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queries.

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And yet, the long we've received, show many entities that lack supposed to be required information.

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According to this kind of fappy, the Department regularly audit database searches, but

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We submitted a CPRA request.

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We were told that no flood causes it.

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The public deserves transparency, accountability, and a voice as to what the biggest

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ability police department and the city uses to monitor us.

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In our town hall after we freeze like constituents once their voice is heard.

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Will you live in?

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Dyer.

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Next speaker, please.

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Just a reminder.

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A pause is not allowed other than during the presentation's portion.

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And we know that you're passionate, but we'd just ask that you be respectful.

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Thank you.

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Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.

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Council member Gonzalez.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Mr. Cleg, if I can't, I want to make a referral tonight that we reach out to Ms. Dyer

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and have a conversation, I believe I made a referral over a year ago regarding the use

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of lock systems and the protocol that should be established.

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I think it's important that we address this concern with our community members and have

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this conversation with them.

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I am sorry, I was not aware of this community meeting, and I'm sorry, I missed it.

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But would hope that the city manager can have a conversation with these community members.

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Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez, Madam City Attorney next speaker, please.

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Mayor Go, we're moving on to the in-person speakers next.

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The first speaker is Denise Garry Pandel.

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Good evening to you, sir.

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Denise Garry Pandel, thank you very much.

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I appreciate the opportunity to be here.

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Thank you.

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I want to raise the issue of the rule of law resolution.

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I'm asking tonight that it be brought before you on the agenda and there be an up-and-down vote.

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What is it concerned?

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The resolution, the rule of law resolution for the public who doesn't know, has to do with the issue of sanctuary city status.

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I think it's very concerning that you're hiding behind, I believe, political considerations,

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as opposed to not putting it on the agenda and having an up and down vote.

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I remind all of you that you are elected to be representatives within a Constitutional Republic.

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And therefore, have the duty under the rule of law to respect and honor the Constitutional Clause in Article 6 that goes to the Supremacy Clause.

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The supremacy clause makes clear that federal law and constitutional law Trump or take precedent under local or state law.

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Therefore, since you all took an oath to uphold the Constitution, you're holding a constitutional trust as an office holder.

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And that constitutional trust means that you have a responsibility above all else to put the protection and safety of every individual in the community and their property first and foremost.

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It's part of our declaration of independence, it's part of what our founding father said in the Declaration of Independence when he wrote

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that we are all given in A U in a moment of rights and among these are the right to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness

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which actually refers to the pursuit of virtue.

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So this is part of what's woven into our constitution and it's a critical that you put the role of law

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, please.

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Natalie Santa Maria.

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Welcome.

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Please introduce yourself.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Natalie Santa Maria.

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I am a promotora.

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And I'm here.

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I'm a representation of my organization.

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I'm here to talk about the general plan and to make a two request.

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One is that in support of inviting the city of Acreshow to collaborate with the coalition that's being formed to do community forums.

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So that we can allow community members, especially those that are monolingo and Spanish to understand what the general plan is.

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The draft was being proposed and have an opportunity to have some input.

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Again, we're willing to work with the city.

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I know we've been very successful in the past,

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so I hope that this leads to that collaboration

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and having creating those spaces,

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especially in East Bakersville.

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With that, I will also like to request

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that an environmental justice chapter be allocated.

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I know it's included some environmental justice,

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it's included in the quality of life.

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However, linked to SP,

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Senate Bill 1,000, we are asking the environmental justice chapters, standalone be created.

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There's a lot of this advantage as you've read between the East and the West and the

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expectancy of life.

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We have very high asthma rates here, along with Valley Fever, and a lot of that is due to

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the infrastructure and historical decisions that have been made.

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So again, we look forward to continuing the conversation in that collaboration with the cities

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so that we can create this forums.

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And we can also look to a way of having an environment

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to just this chapter, stand along for this general plan.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Santa Maria.

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And I'll close next speaker, please.

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Abby, power.

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Welcome, please introduce yourself.

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Mayor and City Council members.

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My name is Abby Power.

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I work with Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability.

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And the comments I'm sharing tonight

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reflect feedback from community members

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and fellow organizations.

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I would just like to ask those who are supporting

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or comments to please stand so that the City Council can see all of your support.

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And so what I wanted to show is a map of disadvantaged communities in Baker's field.

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If you look at that map, you'll see that almost all of East Baker's field communities are designated as disadvantaged.

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According to Calen virus green, many of these communities also face a pollution burden that is higher than 90% of all census tracks in the state.

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You'll also see that there are very few disadvantaged communities on the west side of the city.

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This map displays what many of you already know that the city's lower income communities and communities of color face a disproportionate pollution burden in Bakersfield.

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But what is the reality of facing a pollution burden this high?

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It contributes to worse health outcomes and lower life expectancy.

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According to a map in the city's existing conditions report, the majority of residents of East Bakersfield have a life expectancy that's between 57 to 78 years,

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which compares to a life expectancy for residents of West Bakersfield that is on average between 78 to 97 years,

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which is a huge difference.

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SB 1000 requires that the general plan

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contain an environmental justice element

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or policies integrated throughout all other elements.

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The city's current general plan does neither,

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it includes a quality of life chapter

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which states that it contains many of the plan's EJ policies,

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but this is not a dedicated EJ element

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and EJ policies are not woven throughout all other chapters.

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The general plan also does not take enough meaningful action

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to reduce the unique and compounded health risks

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faced by disadvantaged communities, which SB 1000 requires.

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So we're asking the city to show a commitment to reversing the harm of previous

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planning decisions by creating a standalone environmental justice element that

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thoroughly addresses all components of SB 1000.

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We would also like the city to conduct bilingual community workshops as

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participation and feedback is crucial to creating policies that address the needs

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of disadvantaged communities, which is a requirement of SB 1000.

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Soly publishing a technical document on the website does not do enough to facilitate

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President input and it has not been published in any language other than English.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Then, click next speaker, please.

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Rod.

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Guys.

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Welcome.

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Oh, thank you.

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Good evening, City Council.

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After July 15, my name is Rod.

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Guys, G-U-I-C-E out of in South West Baker, Seattle, and a resident, so proud to be here.

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After July 15, City Council meeting, three Council members made calls for sanctuary city

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policy and it's truth act for him. In response at the August 5th meeting, I was proud to submit a resolution by Dr. Angela Fraser to designate Baker's field a rule of law city.

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And I urge the council to act on it. Unfortunately, there's been no action and this is a little disappointing.

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And I don't know where sanctuary city policies stand or proposals stand, and then they might come back.

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So, I'm here today to urge the Council to introduce the rule of law city resolution.

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Adopping this resolution is your opportunity to produce something tangible.

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It avoids the waste of time money and resources that are truth-act forum would incur.

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It mitigates the accelerating cost of sustaining a growing population of foreign nationals.

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A rule of law city resolution would also show that we honor our veterans who fought to provide

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we have, that we honor everyone who legally became citizens, that we uphold federal law,

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and that we align with other California cities who have the courage to oppose sanctuary

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city policy, such as Santa Clarita, Corona, Huntington Beach, and more, as well as cities

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in Texas, Florida, and Iowa. America is a nation of law and most citizens agree to support,

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defend and obey the law. This is your opportunity to show the citizens that you stand with us.

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President Harry Truman said progress occurs when courageous,

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skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better.

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This is the opportunity. I urge one or more of you to please stand

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and champion the rule of law city resolution. We, the people, are not going away.

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Thank you for your service to our community. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Guys.

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Next speaker, please.

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Reverend Dr. Angel Frazier.

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Well, thank you.

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Thank you, my understanding that you all have a copy of the rule of law.

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Mayor City Council members, thank you.

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My name is Reverend Angela Frazier.

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Thank you, Council members, Zach, for your previous actions regarding the putting

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or table in of the sanctuary of policy.

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We're the same when I play.

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Hey basketball and Germany, it was a good news. And it means enough is enough. Current and former city and state elected officials

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have confirmed that a table issue may be reconsidered or resurrected later. Adopting a rule of law resolution can help prevent that sanctuary city proposal from ever returning.

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have we moved so far away from the fundamental principles of our Constitution that we

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can no longer stomach the idea of the rule of law. The Constitution and your

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oath of offers must guide your action anything less undermines them both. I

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ask the City Council to place the rule of law on the agenda or and up and down

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Thank you for your consideration.

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Thank you, Reverend Frazier.

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Next speaker, please.

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Lytion Andrade Kapilino.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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When I started this may your go and city council members.

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My name is Lytion Andrade Kapilino.

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I'm a resident of Southwest Bakersfield Ward 6.

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Volunteer with Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability

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among other organizations, social advocate, and proud

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daughter, and granddaughter of immigrants.

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I'm here tonight to speak to you about the Bakersville

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General Plan, something I love about this city

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is the joy we have in coming together in community.

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The countless events around the city,

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the way we show up to support each other,

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and the hope we have for a healthier and more

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beautiful Bakersfield.

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When we think of beautiful cities,

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there are a few things that instantly come to mind,

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trees, fresh air, walkable areas and places together in community. That is the vision I have for

461
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Baker's field. Clean air is a right, not something earned. The disproportionate rates of pollution

462
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in the disadvantaged areas of Baker's field is the deep concern and to be taken seriously.

463
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Environmental and respiratory concerns are leaders of health issues in Baker's field.

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Air pollutants lead to health issues such as pneumonia, asthma, heart disease, lung cancer,

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and more.

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The general plan must include actions to appropriately zone the city and reduce harmful

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pollutants as outlined in SB 1000.

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SB 1000 is the law requiring that the general plan in cities with disadvantaged communities

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aim to reduce harmful pollutants associated with health risks.

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I ask the city to commit to including a standalone environmental justice element in the

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general plan that thoroughly and clearly addresses the components of SB 1000 as has been

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done by other cities leading the way to reverse the harm in disadvantaged communities.

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00:47:54,910 --> 00:47:59,350
I was here a few weeks ago with the ask to actively engage with the community. I think you

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for extending the date for community comment. However, at this time we are still waiting for

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Spanish and Pujombe translations and active community workshops and engagement. It is also a

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requirement of the plan to be transparent and include community feedback. I asked the bilingual

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workshops are held and the disadvantaged communities around Bakersville so that all residents

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can provide feedback and actively participate. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Andrade

479
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:27,450
Kepelino. Can some Americans else? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you so much for your comments tonight.

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00:48:27,570 --> 00:48:33,430
And I just want to thank all of the community members who have joined us this evening to talk about

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the general plan and to offer up some of your ideas. I need to do some research on some of this.

482
00:48:40,070 --> 00:48:48,270
But I do want to say a couple things, one is there was a map that was presented tonight and we did not get an opportunity to review that map.

483
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So if you will please bring it to the city clerk so that they may make copies.

484
00:48:53,130 --> 00:49:00,750
I think we do have copies perfect because I would like to review that map and respect the fact that you prepared that for us.

485
00:49:00,810 --> 00:49:04,250
And I think the full council should be able to review that. Thank you so much.

486
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:12,370
The other thing is, I do think that we ought to prepare documents in multiple languages,

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including Spanish and Punjabi, and so I hope that we can work towards that goal and ensure

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that future outreach meetings are bilingual or, in some cases, trilingual so that we can

489
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reach out and have meaningful conversations with many of our stakeholders, but as somebody

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who's been working in East Baker's field and tried to revitalize the east side for 20 years now.

491
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:42,210
You know, this is a big passion of mine and something that's dear to my heart and would like to see

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00:49:42,210 --> 00:49:46,690
many more East Baker's old residents and families participate in this process as we look towards

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the future of our city. Thank you. Thank you, councilmember. Madam Clerk, next speaker please.

494
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:25,760
I want to address concerns I had with the Fox cameras that are all over the city.

495
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I'm not necessarily anti-police both my experience growing up in biggest field.

496
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,400
I do not trust information and master railings will be used ethically by our law enforcement

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00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,860
and officials. We're already seeing examples nationwide of law enforcement using information

498
00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:45,560
recorded by flood cameras to track and stock personal contacts. And I don't know how I

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control a speaker's field to be any different than the other examples. Those in favor of

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00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,280
the flood cameras claim it to be an extension of their patrolling, but it does so at the expense

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00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,800
of the public's right for privacy. Statements such as you're fine if you're not having

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00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,420
nothing to hide or as long as you aren't doing anything wrong, you'll be fine or not encouraging

503
00:51:02,420 --> 00:51:05,860
when our government is actively changing what is considered wrong and unacceptable.

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00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:11,040
And in regard to our officials and law enforcement saying,

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Float cameras have helped them solve the accumulated crimes.

506
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,660
Hearing this is not encouraging statements like this make our enforcement sound incompetent

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00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:23,780
and they can't do the job without the use of master valence that are being pushed on us or the use of AI.

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00:51:24,620 --> 00:51:26,340
Once again, I'm not necessarily anti-police.

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00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,140
I do appreciate seeing if our officials and law enforcement could develop

510
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It's fine against Float cameras moving forward. Thank you.

511
00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:35,620
Thank you Mr. Philanty.

512
00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:36,760
Next speaker, please.

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00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:43,580
Maria Stalkup.

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00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,780
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,060
Good evening, my name is Maria Stalkup.

516
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,820
I'm here to talk about Float cameras.

517
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,720
I've lived in Baker's field for almost 20 years as a private citizen,

518
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and I believe that still means something.

519
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,160
I am a private person.

520
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:12,920
I raised both of my sons here.

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00:52:12,940 --> 00:52:15,220
Worked here and kept to myself for these 20 years.

522
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,900
This is the first time I've ever been to a city council meeting,

523
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:20,240
but I felt compelled to be here because of this issue.

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00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:22,820
I've never been arrested and I have a clean background.

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00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:25,160
So why must I be surveilled by flawed cameras?

526
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,440
When I drive around, I see endless amounts

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of cyber junk cluttering in our street corners and parking lots.

528
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,460
Until recently, I thought that I was the only one

529
00:52:32,460 --> 00:52:34,240
who didn't understand why these were here.

530
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:36,620
That is until I started reading about flock.

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00:52:36,980 --> 00:52:38,800
It turns out that people all over the country

532
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,640
are wondering the same things that I am.

533
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:42,520
Where did these cameras come from and why?

534
00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:44,740
In growing numbers, members of the public

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are rejecting this technology.

536
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,320
Some are taking the time to come to City Council meetings like this one.

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00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:53,120
Some are meeting to discuss with one another and many are discussing it online.

538
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,380
Here are some quotes from people within my own neighborhood of Northwest Bakersfield

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00:52:57,380 --> 00:52:58,960
from our neighborhood app.

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00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,500
My truck was stolen 41 days ago from the parking lot.

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00:53:01,620 --> 00:53:02,760
Home Depot and Rose Del Highway.

542
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,840
I failed to report immediately and my truck still has not been located.

543
00:53:06,260 --> 00:53:08,180
Just saying these flat cameras are not all that great.

544
00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:11,360
The flat cameras aren't really going to help normal people.

545
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,900
They're to protect businesses and sell your location data.

546
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:18,700
these block cameras are BS, these are looking for expired registrations.

547
00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:24,100
I think that the lawsuits will come from this will cost us far more than the benefit from them.

548
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,600
What is block stand for? Makes me think we are a bunch of sheep that need to be hearded.

549
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,420
These are the quotes that I've received from this app.

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00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:35,920
Over all our community members do not seem to understand what block cameras are for.

551
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:41,180
Why would they? They were put into place without prior approval and no oversight or voting on the matter.

552
00:53:41,180 --> 00:53:45,080
At the very least, why is the search data not being audited by the city?

553
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:52,920
How are we to trust our local law enforcement with the information they are collecting when we have one of the most core up and it is documented police forces in the country?

554
00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:58,540
Until this corruption is brought under control, we cannot justify mass surveillance like this.

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00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,100
Thank you.

556
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:00,480
Thank you.

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00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:02,380
Madam Clerk.

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00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,680
Next speaker, please.

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00:54:07,580 --> 00:54:08,940
Brandon Bane.

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00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:20,280
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

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00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,380
Hello, I'm Brandon Bane.

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00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:25,140
I'm here to talk about Float Cameras in the city of Biggsville.

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00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Since 2024, 155 cases of misuse of Float Cameras have been noted.

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00:54:34,540 --> 00:54:39,700
You say countrywide by law enforcement and non law enforcement individuals mainly use

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00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:43,080
to stock ex-partners, current partners, and just random individuals.

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:57,560
In 2025, Johnson County Sheriff's Department text is used, roughly, to roughly 68,000 cameras

567
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:05,260
among 6,000 networks, to locate a woman who is trying to get legal health care in an abortion

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and another state where health is illegal, but that is legal.

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00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:20,380
These cameras are invasions of privacy, they are down their harassment, many of us feel like we are being constantly harassed, we feel like we're being surveilled.

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In the words of Benjamin Franklin, those who are willing to sell a little bit of their freedom for a little bit of safety deserve neither, and I ask you please to review and honestly end our contract with flock and to remove these cameras as soon as possible.

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00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,140
Please, and thank you.

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00:55:39,260 --> 00:55:40,140
Thank you, Mr. Paine.

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00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,340
And Madam City Clerk, our final speaker,

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Jason Supriano.

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00:55:59,470 --> 00:56:00,330
Please introduce yourself.

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00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:02,410
Good evening. My name is Jason Supriano.

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00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:06,150
Yesterday August 25th at Norse Middle School dismissal,

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00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:10,390
Officer Chrisman ID 1199 cited me for parking behind

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00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:13,050
a line of other parents while picking up my son.

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00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:15,190
Before she even spoke to me,

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00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:19,470
drivers who saw parking enforcement arrive began erratically accelerating through the parking

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00:56:19,470 --> 00:56:22,350
full of children and effort to get away from her.

583
00:56:22,690 --> 00:56:26,990
I followed an internal affairs complaint, and I'm contesting the ticket, but that's not what

584
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:27,610
I'm here about.

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00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:32,050
I'm asking for a written answer from the city manager and the police chief on whether Bakership

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00:56:32,050 --> 00:56:37,050
Police Department has a policy governing parking enforcement during active school this

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00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:39,150
missile while children are walking between vehicles.

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00:56:39,710 --> 00:56:43,970
Because yesterday, the way that enforcement was being conducted didn't make dismissal any

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It caused panic drivers to accelerate through, which should have through an area full of children.

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And it also turned, but it should have been a normal pick-up into a police matter.

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That's what I'm asking the city to examine.

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00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:58,190
Thank you.

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00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:59,270
Thank you, Mr. Piranha.

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00:57:00,390 --> 00:57:04,090
And so this ends this portion of our meeting.

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00:57:04,210 --> 00:57:08,270
This is the a lot of time you're welcome for those of you who didn't get a chance to speak

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00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:11,390
to come back at other meetings to write to us.

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00:57:11,390 --> 00:57:14,130
but thank you for being here to participate.

598
00:57:14,530 --> 00:57:18,810
Madam Clerk, do we have any public speakers regarding items listed on tonight's agenda?

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00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:27,090
And if you're here to speak on items listed under consent calendar item six, deferred

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00:57:27,090 --> 00:57:34,130
business item 10A, that's the Interfund loan or new business item 11A, Clean City Special

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00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:35,110
Project Funds.

602
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:38,510
Now is the time to speak and the clerk will call for speech.

603
00:57:40,030 --> 00:57:44,210
It was 11 a and I didn't tell them it was 11 a.

604
00:57:44,510 --> 00:57:45,310
Okay, thank you.

605
00:57:45,490 --> 00:57:46,370
So go ahead and sit down.

606
00:57:46,450 --> 00:57:50,050
We're going to let for those of you who would like to leave at this point.

607
00:57:50,270 --> 00:57:53,330
This would be the right time to leave.

608
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:56,990
And so we'll just give our guests a moment to leave.

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00:57:57,690 --> 00:58:01,530
And then just for the city clerk, if you heard Mr.ologists,

610
00:58:01,530 --> 00:58:03,130
it's for 11 a.

611
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:21,180
Mayor Go, we have received 12 requests to speak on the consent calendar, one by phone and 11 in person, and then we've received four requests to speak.

612
00:58:21,660 --> 00:58:29,040
I apologize five requests to speak on new business item 11A, one by phone and three in person.

613
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:36,000
The first, it looks like the individual who signed up to speak by phone has not connected.

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:42,280
We will start with the in-person speakers for the consent calendar.

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,800
The first speaker is Karina Funes.

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00:59:03,890 --> 00:59:05,170
Well, please introduce yourself.

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00:59:05,690 --> 00:59:06,250
Good evening.

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00:59:06,530 --> 00:59:09,010
Honorable Mayor and members of the Bakersville City Council.

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00:59:09,210 --> 00:59:12,890
My name is Karina Funes and I am the Policy Manager at Blue Zones Project Bakersfield.

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On behalf of Blues on Project Baker SEALS, I want to express our sincere appreciation to the city of Baker SEALS for taking this important step towards creating healthier, safer and more welcoming parks for our community by moving towards smoke free parks.

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We are grateful for the city's leadership and for the collaboration with the city manager's office, city attorney's office and our city council members.

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00:59:34,110 --> 00:59:42,710
Creating smoke free parks is an important investment in the health and well-being of Baker SEALS residents, families and visitors and we are excited to see our city take this step.

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In 2024, blue sounds project bakers still began conducting tobacco litter cleanups at Park's

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00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:48,930
throughout Bakersfield.

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00:59:49,650 --> 00:59:54,150
Unfortunately, we found tobacco litter at every park we visited and observed adults smoking

626
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:54,990
in front of children.

627
00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:59,970
There is not a single park across any of the seven wars that was immune to tobacco litter.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,200
We frequently found the most litter around ventures, picnic tables, and parking lots.

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01:00:06,740 --> 01:00:14,220
Because of what we have seen firsthand through these cleanups, we do have one small recommendation that we believe could help strengthen the policy and ensure its intent is clear.

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01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:23,140
We respectfully ask that parking lots be explicitly included in the language, or that including be changed to including but not limited to.

631
01:00:23,140 --> 01:00:31,560
This would help ensure that smoke free protections apply consistently throughout our parks and that areas such as parking lots are not unintentionally left open to interpretation.

632
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:40,360
However, we want to emphasize that this recommendation comes from a place of support for the policy and appreciation for the work the city has already done.

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,840
We are very excited about the direction the city is taking and are grateful to see Baker's moving towards healthier smoke free public places.

634
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:53,820
We look forward to continuing to work alongside the City to make Bakers with a healthier, safer community where we can all live longer better.

635
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:54,860
Thank you.

636
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,920
Thank you, Ms. Punez.

637
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:57,820
Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.

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01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:03,020
Crystal Burgess.

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:27,820
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

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01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:31,020
Good evening, Mayor Go, council members, and city staff.

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,240
My name is Crystal Burgess.

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01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:34,400
I work in tobacco prevention education.

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01:01:34,540 --> 01:01:41,260
I advise a youth coalition that advocates against tobacco and serve as a member of the tobacco free coalition of Kern County.

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01:01:41,260 --> 01:01:50,980
I want to be transparent about that connection, but tonight I also want to speak from personal experience as a mom and as a family who spends a lot of time in Bakersfield Parks.

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01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:57,600
I've been a mom for over 10 years, and our family uses parks for birthdays, tea ball, walks, community events, and just spending time together.

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01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:09,760
I actually have more than 500 pictures of our family at Bakersfield Parks. I don't smoke, but my children can still encounter secondhand smoke and tobacco product waste when we're enjoying these spaces.

647
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:19,640
The issue is especially personal to me because a few years ago my daughter stood here in this very room as an underage young person who purchased the vape.

648
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:26,960
She came here and advocated for a stronger tobacco retail protection protections and we are grateful that the city ultimately passed the tobacco retail license.

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01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:38,320
She leaves for UC Davis next week and I know she would be proud to see your hometown continue that work by making sidewalks athletic fields playgrounds recreational areas and public buildings within parks smoke free.

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01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:45,860
I also ask the Council to consider including parking lots and other areas associated with these facilities to not leave the policy open for interpretation.

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01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:49,320
We see a lot of smoking and tobacco litter in those areas as well.

652
01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:53,960
Please also consider clear signage and cessation resources for residents.

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01:02:55,080 --> 01:03:00,380
So it residents understand the change and people who notice tobacco products where they can find support.

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01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:06,040
This isn't about judging people who smoke, it's about making sure families can enjoy public spaces without exposure to smoke.

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01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:11,640
And to back away, if we can spend hours at a restaurant or sports arena without smoking, I believe we can do the same at our parks.

656
01:03:11,780 --> 01:03:16,920
Thank you for taking this important step towards health and your cleaner parks for Bakersville families and future generations.

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01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:17,780
Thank you.

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01:03:17,860 --> 01:03:18,160
Thank you.

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01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:18,660
Thank you, Ms. Berges.

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,660
And all the best to you as you go to UC Davis, young lady.

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01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,740
Next speaker, please.

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01:03:27,180 --> 01:03:28,060
Bernardo Ochoa.

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01:03:44,290 --> 01:03:45,090
Please introduce yourself.

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01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:48,750
Good evening, Mariko, city council and city staff.

665
01:03:50,670 --> 01:03:55,310
I'm here tonight as a chair of the Tobacco Freak Coalition of Current County.

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01:03:55,870 --> 01:03:59,770
On behalf of our coalition, I would like to sincerely thank the Bakerfield City Council

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01:03:59,770 --> 01:04:05,670
in the City Stafford considering this amendment to Section 125650, which could prohibit smoking

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01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:10,890
in all areas of public parks. This has surely been a collaborative effort involving our community,

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01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:16,810
multiple agencies across Current County, and our coalition partners who care deeply about the places

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01:04:16,810 --> 01:04:21,930
our families gather in play. Some of our first conversations regarding the need for

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01:04:21,930 --> 01:04:28,190
smoke-free parks take place with council member Eric Arias. As a long-time supporter of

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01:04:28,190 --> 01:04:33,590
our work, coalition does, there are conversations at the safe and healthy neighborhood

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01:04:33,590 --> 01:04:41,290
committee. We sincerely thank you. We are, we encourage to see our community voices reflected

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01:04:42,010 --> 01:04:46,950
today's proposed amendments and reflecting cities ongoing commitment creating a healthier,

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01:04:47,290 --> 01:04:52,750
safer, and clear bakers field. So our children, seniors, and families are free from exposure

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01:04:52,750 --> 01:05:00,030
to second-hand smoke. We strongly support this proposed amendments. Education and awareness are essential

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01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:05,770
to successful implementation and signage can help ensure that these changes are understood and

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01:05:05,770 --> 01:05:07,090
and a brace by our community.

679
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:11,070
We are proud to stand alongside the City of Bakersfield

680
01:05:11,070 --> 01:05:13,670
as a longstanding partner in this work.

681
01:05:13,830 --> 01:05:15,770
The tobacco free coalition of current county

682
01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:18,730
is committed to supporting the public education,

683
01:05:19,310 --> 01:05:21,950
social media outreach, and community awareness efforts.

684
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:24,570
Thank you for your leadership, your partnership,

685
01:05:25,090 --> 01:05:28,150
and your commitment to making biggest field

686
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:29,490
a healthier, beautiful community.

687
01:05:30,090 --> 01:05:30,550
Thank you for your time.

688
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:31,630
Thank you, Mr. Chowa.

689
01:05:31,810 --> 01:05:34,390
And I'd love to want to hear for the council.

690
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:38,850
Thank you, and our City Clerk will get that and get it out to the council.

691
01:05:39,350 --> 01:05:40,650
But a clerk next speaker, please.

692
01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:36,870
Union, the North of the Domingo,

693
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:39,590
to manage the Lune,

694
01:06:39,790 --> 01:06:41,170
so you can disparate in our team.

695
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:44,670
My office in the 60s,

696
01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:45,590
Junior Avenue,

697
01:06:45,690 --> 01:06:46,710
Queen Pactado,

698
01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:48,310
the House,

699
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:50,190
we call it the Police.

700
01:06:50,790 --> 01:06:51,910
The House of the Police,

701
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:52,390
the House of the Police,

702
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:53,550
the Vickers, and the V26,

703
01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:54,730
one, six, eight,

704
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:57,210
seven, six, zero.

705
01:06:57,930 --> 01:06:59,110
We call it the Police

706
01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:01,570
to respond tomorrow.

707
01:07:03,610 --> 01:07:06,730
Mircoles, entre las diez de la mañana, las cinco.

708
01:07:07,330 --> 01:07:12,490
Hoy, eso es a trescientos pies del novescientos uno,

709
01:07:12,850 --> 01:07:15,710
y unio la abenio, el histórica, y unio,

710
01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:17,690
abenio, una ruta noventa y nueve.

711
01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:23,590
Los miembros, los mismos trescientos pies que caminan clientes,

712
01:07:23,830 --> 01:07:25,530
niños, a diario.

713
01:07:25,810 --> 01:07:28,170
No estamos en contra de la ayuda de ayudar,

714
01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:30,990
estamos por para proteger nuestra cuadra.

715
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:33,630
Solcito,

716
01:07:34,090 --> 01:07:35,670
una tolerancia,

717
01:07:35,850 --> 01:07:38,810
sero tolerancia en unión hábino,

718
01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:41,910
24 horas,

719
01:07:42,270 --> 01:07:43,910
los siete días de la semana,

720
01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:47,910
dos el protocolo de respuesta rápida,

721
01:07:48,850 --> 01:07:48,930
tres,

722
01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:50,050
no a campar,

723
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:51,170
me rodear,

724
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:52,970
aquí en tus pies,

725
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:55,230
cuatro una junta de seguridad

726
01:07:55,230 --> 01:07:57,010
antes aprobada.

727
01:07:57,010 --> 01:08:03,730
Please, here is the expedient that I am the head of yesterday at the 3.48.

728
01:08:05,490 --> 01:08:11,690
Please, I'm going to show you the next expedient that I am the head of yesterday.

729
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:14,250
Thank you.

730
01:08:14,670 --> 01:08:16,890
And now, in top of your thesis,

731
01:08:20,020 --> 01:08:21,120
you can put it on the phone.

732
01:08:21,740 --> 01:08:21,740
Good

733
01:08:24,690 --> 01:08:26,630
evening, Council.

734
01:08:27,150 --> 01:08:32,430
My name is Leicisa Lovano, and I have a business on 600 June and I have a new item here.

735
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:45,600
because of the project of the 30 unit shelter that you do have on 901 Union on Sunday evening heading in to Monday.

736
01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:52,720
There were gun fires on our block. Might office at 600 Union Avenue was hit. It was impacted.

737
01:08:53,540 --> 01:09:00,980
And we did call Bakersville Police Department. The case number is 26-168-760.

738
01:09:01,940 --> 01:09:07,620
We did call the police department and they will respond till tomorrow.

739
01:09:08,820 --> 01:09:11,900
Wednesday between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m.

740
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:12,820
Today,

741
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:21,420
I am here to say that this was at 300 free from 901, Union Avenue, the Historic Union

742
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:30,300
Avenue on Route 99, the same 300 feet that customers and children walk every day.

743
01:09:30,300 --> 01:09:38,320
we are not against helping people. We are, we are also wanting to protect our block. I formally

744
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:48,520
request number one, zero tolerance on Union Avenue 247. 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

745
01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:57,460
Two, I asked for rapid response protocol, three note camping or loitering within 500 feet

746
01:09:57,460 --> 01:10:09,840
And for a public safety meeting before approval, please, I do have my file here that I did submit yesterday at 348 PM.

747
01:10:10,860 --> 01:10:19,960
I ask that you also add annex e to the file that I did submit yesterday. Thank you.

748
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,040
Thank you, Ms. Lafinal.

749
01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:25,380
Tell some of the Americans else.

750
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:26,520
Thank you, Mayor.

751
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,620
And thank you, Ms. Lamano for coming today and speaking to us.

752
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:34,080
Thank you for your phone call also a few days ago.

753
01:10:34,180 --> 01:10:36,440
I hope to meet with you in person soon.

754
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,580
And I do want to take up your recommendations.

755
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,120
I think you have a lot of good ideas.

756
01:10:42,940 --> 01:10:44,620
I definitely think there needs to be a zero tolerance

757
01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:45,520
on Union Avenue.

758
01:10:46,540 --> 01:10:48,260
We were heading the right direction.

759
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,720
We had BPD code enforcement and many others out on Union.

760
01:10:55,380 --> 01:10:59,600
and we did some proactive work to address some of those issues.

761
01:11:00,980 --> 01:11:02,360
But I think that was over a year ago,

762
01:11:02,380 --> 01:11:05,400
and I think we need to do some more consistent work

763
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,340
on Union Avenue, is ongoing.

764
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,640
But let's face it, I mean, the reality is

765
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,500
is that Union Avenue, it has been an issue for decades.

766
01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:16,280
It's taking us a long time to get to this state.

767
01:11:16,460 --> 01:11:18,280
It's going to take us a while to get out of it,

768
01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:19,900
but we need to start this work.

769
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,340
And I'm encouraged by some of the investment.

770
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:31,260
I know it's a little solace to you right now given the immediate issues, but there is some private investment also in the area.

771
01:11:31,460 --> 01:11:42,800
We're working with some private developers to bring new resources and amenities to the area, including a potential supermarket, not going to wood.

772
01:11:42,940 --> 01:11:52,760
I don't want to overstate the possibilities here, but we have been working on things in the background to try to improve the condition of union avenue.

773
01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:00,300
But I 100% agree with you, we ought to get more aggressive in this area.

774
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,300
And I want to make a referral tonight to the city manager that we bring together the

775
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:10,600
departments who are most responsible for public safety along this corridor, including

776
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,940
BPD and code enforcement and others that may not be obvious, may be even the park

777
01:12:15,940 --> 01:12:20,940
Rangers in some respects, that we bring them together so that we can develop a proactive

778
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:25,660
and consistent strategy to address these issues on Union Avenue.

779
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:31,460
And the last thing is there are residents, there are business owners, there are people in the community who really care about Union.

780
01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:36,780
There are families who live in and around Union Avenue who deserve safe neighborhoods.

781
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:49,140
And it's really unfortunate that there's this perception that Union Avenue is somewhat, you know, second tier to the rest of the city.

782
01:12:49,140 --> 01:12:58,360
We have to reject that notion, and we ought to bring our community members together, business owners, property owners, family members, residents.

783
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,020
Let's come together and have that safety meeting.

784
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:02,800
That Ms. LaVano has recommended.

785
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:13,840
And let's have a conversation about what we can do collectively to make this particular corridor much safer for all parties.

786
01:13:14,180 --> 01:13:15,540
So thank you for being here tonight.

787
01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:17,520
Thank you, Madam Clerk next speaker,

788
01:13:34,190 --> 01:13:34,190
please.

789
01:13:34,490 --> 01:13:34,670
Welcome.

790
01:13:34,810 --> 01:13:35,650
Please introduce yourself.

791
01:13:36,110 --> 01:13:38,050
Denise Gary Pandell, just real quick.

792
01:13:38,230 --> 01:13:43,190
The reason why I came up to speak on this issue with respect to the minutes is because

793
01:13:43,190 --> 01:13:48,790
there was a mistake made by the city clerk's office with respect to the minutes.

794
01:13:49,570 --> 01:13:54,390
And it clearly pointed out that I supported a sanctuary city status, and that was

795
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:58,610
brought to my attention the other day, and I just wanted to make sure that the

796
01:13:58,610 --> 01:14:06,550
was corrected, and I wanted to make it clear to the public, as I stated before, that it is a

797
01:14:06,550 --> 01:14:15,110
via sanctuary city status, is a violation of Title 8, Section 1132 of the Federal Code. It's also

798
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:21,710
would be a violation of the Supremacy Clause in Article 6 of the Constitution, and basically

799
01:14:21,710 --> 01:14:27,310
in light of the fact that there's been over tens of thousands of murders, just murders alone,

800
01:14:27,310 --> 01:14:36,010
not counting human trafficking, fentanyl, drugs being brought into the country, cartels, fraud,

801
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:39,110
other crimes, petty and major crimes.

802
01:14:39,770 --> 01:14:46,370
It is really inappropriate for the safety and security of the public to allow illegal immigration

803
01:14:46,370 --> 01:14:48,030
based on the law.

804
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:56,050
Aside from that, I pointed out for the record during that last meeting we had on August 5th

805
01:14:56,050 --> 01:14:59,970
that the good people in Washington DC had.

806
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
And I made an effort to provide everyone who broke the law and entered the country illegally to have $2,500 plus a free ticket back to their country of origin. And I made that clear. And I also made clear the federal grounds by the Department of Justice and the Department of Transportation that those federal grants would be withheld, and that other monies would be withheld from those cities in any state, in the Union, that embraced a saying that,

807
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,100
sure a city. I also made clear that it was just respectful to the people of this country who came here

808
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:40,960
lawfully. So thank you, Ms. Garrett. You're welcome. Thank you for coming with the record.

809
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,340
The correction has already been made. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

810
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:47,920
City Clerk reached out to you and informed you. Thank you very much. Thank you, City Clerk.

811
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:49,760
Next speaker, please.

812
01:16:01,210 --> 01:16:04,450
Mayor, go. I just want to note that we're allowing the additional 10 minutes

813
01:16:04,450 --> 01:16:08,930
since we had no phone speakers connected?

814
01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:11,310
Yes, go ahead for today.

815
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:12,890
Natalie Santa Maria.

816
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:28,000
And just encourage all of you to be as succinct as possible.

817
01:16:30,910 --> 01:16:31,750
Hello, again,

818
01:16:33,850 --> 01:16:36,190
Natalie Santa Maria with visionic compromiso.

819
01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:43,410
And my comment is in regard to your amendment to section 12.56.050.

820
01:16:43,410 --> 01:16:49,350
Thank you for this amendment to prohibits smoking in parks.

821
01:16:49,890 --> 01:16:55,410
I am here also as part of the Tobacco Free Coalition, which you all know that most of

822
01:16:55,410 --> 01:17:01,210
you know that we've been working for many years along with other organizations to pass several

823
01:17:01,210 --> 01:17:01,730
resolutions.

824
01:17:02,430 --> 01:17:03,890
So I'm here to thank you.

825
01:17:03,970 --> 01:17:08,550
I know we present it and also we have the promotoras that went to the last safe and healthy

826
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:08,910
neighbourhood.

827
01:17:08,910 --> 01:17:14,530
some of them are here. Some of them work connected through phone, but I guess they couldn't just figure out the system.

828
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:20,130
But again, thinking you in that effort, we're looking forward to looking at how enforcement is going to look.

829
01:17:20,690 --> 01:17:29,710
Some signage to in the parks will be very helpful and some education. We're also including parking lots.

830
01:17:30,170 --> 01:17:35,810
Again, we're looking forward to collaborating on that education, something when something new arises right in our community.

831
01:17:35,810 --> 01:17:42,370
and we want to be as proactive as possible and also want to mention that Hamat here with Grimfield

832
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:46,950
walking group, which you all know it's also looking forward to collaborating with that

833
01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:52,550
education in the parts that you all know she has a passion for that. So again, thank you

834
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:55,950
and looking forward to working with you all. Thank you, Ms. Santa Maria.

835
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:58,630
That'll clerk, do we have additional speakers?

836
01:18:01,740 --> 01:18:03,620
Recordo del Hoyo.

837
01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:16,200
Welcome, please sit and issues yourself.

838
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,160
My name is Recordo del Hoyo, and I'm a proud resident of Ward 1.

839
01:18:20,580 --> 01:18:21,760
Shout out to Councilman Arias.

840
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,960
Good afternoon to Mayor Go and Council members.

841
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:30,180
Before I get into agenda item 60.2, I'd like to take a moment and

842
01:18:30,180 --> 01:18:33,600
take the City Council for extending the public or

843
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,700
March period for the 245 General Plan Update.

844
01:18:36,700 --> 01:18:43,820
However, after a careful review of the proposal on the general plan update something seems

845
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:48,320
to be missing, and that's measurable change and action plans.

846
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:54,720
I too hope all communities can rise together, especially underserved communities.

847
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:56,720
You see, I grew up in Bakersfield.

848
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,080
I attended local schools.

849
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,120
I graduated from Calcy Bakersfield.

850
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:07,980
And although much has changed, some areas and some statistics have not changed.

851
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:17,900
Neighborhoods in Southeast Bakersfield have less than 1% tree canopy shade, areas with severe heat exposure and lackluster infrastructure.

852
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,660
This has been the case since I grew up and continues to be true today.

853
01:19:23,540 --> 01:19:28,920
I applaud the resolution on approving the application for the Climate Bond Grants Fund.

854
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:37,420
Yes, we need more trees in downtown, but we also need more trees outside the downtown corridor of Ward 2.

855
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:57,260
I asked to revisit the listed area for this grant application and extend coverage, past California Avenue, past Brunnage Avenue, past 58, past Bill Terrace, to truly amplify and beautify the Chester to South Chester corridor,

856
01:19:57,260 --> 01:20:01,560
with trees, greenery, and green pedestrian corridors.

857
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,700
Thank you for your time.

858
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:05,540
Thank you, Mr. Delphoyol.

859
01:20:05,940 --> 01:20:06,420
I'm a clerk.

860
01:20:06,860 --> 01:20:08,260
Next speaker, please.

861
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,000
Lawrence, Salceto.

862
01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:19,720
Welcome. Please introduce yourself.

863
01:20:20,060 --> 01:20:21,020
Hi. Hello.

864
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,840
My name is Lawrence Salceto.

865
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:22,300
Junior.

866
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,760
I am a proud member of the Cholone Indian Nation.

867
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:27,100
I'm also here representing with tobacco free current

868
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:28,920
and my place of

869
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,380
I'll can see back at Southern American and Health Project.

870
01:20:32,180 --> 01:20:37,640
We are here in support of the Smoke Free Parks and the ordinance that is going out.

871
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:44,980
We do, I'm very thankful for customer areas for hearing this at the 16 healthy neighborhoods committee,

872
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:53,220
especially as a Native American tobacco is a very spiritual and traditional medicine for us.

873
01:20:53,580 --> 01:20:57,840
So we do want to make the distinction between traditional tobacco and commercial tobacco,

874
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:05,400
virtualized tobacco, which is the heavily processed industrialized version of it versus the traditional

875
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,920
spiritual tobacco, which we use in medicine, which we use as gifts in which we use in prayer.

876
01:21:12,140 --> 01:21:16,420
So please make that consideration when moving forward with these more free parks. Thank you.

877
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,420
Thank you, Mr. Salcito. Have a quick next speaker, please.

878
01:21:24,190 --> 01:21:25,390
Josie Sarulo?

879
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:38,820
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

880
01:21:39,580 --> 01:21:42,180
Council members here, our cry.

881
01:21:42,980 --> 01:21:44,420
My name is Josie Sarulo.

882
01:21:44,820 --> 01:21:48,500
My family owns a strip mall at 600 Union Avenue.

883
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,880
And Laticia has run a successful business there

884
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,380
for over seven years.

885
01:21:54,860 --> 01:21:58,100
She pays taxes, employers locals,

886
01:21:58,720 --> 01:21:59,740
and wants to stay.

887
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,320
But the constant business interaction

888
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:09,480
From the chronic offenders is forcing her at other tenants to close their doors.

889
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:19,460
The plans for this project offers an onsite fence, but a fence does nothing for the neighborhood businesses within a four-block radius.

890
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:31,160
Our area is already hurting from high crime, open drug use, vandalism, fights, threats to store workers, open sex, threats to customers,

891
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:40,260
lowering constant storefront trouble. The list goes on and on. The city cannot just fix housing

892
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:49,200
for one group of people, while causing financial burden for the local businesses that pay taxes

893
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:56,780
and provide local jobs or they will leave and this will cause more empty buildings in the area where half

894
01:22:56,780 --> 01:22:59,680
the stores are already shut down.

895
01:23:00,460 --> 01:23:03,060
True compassion requires balance.

896
01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:09,320
If you move a high risk group here, you must protect us.

897
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,640
We demand that the conditional use permit

898
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:17,320
legally forced the developer to do eight things

899
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,020
for the life of this project.

900
01:23:20,260 --> 01:23:24,000
First, pay for 24-7 security guard,

901
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,040
Looping our streets and alleys within a four block radius.

902
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:31,980
Second, install high definition cameras

903
01:23:31,980 --> 01:23:33,520
that link right to the police.

904
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,700
Third, gifts security and police immediate power

905
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:39,420
to remove trouble bankers.

906
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,780
Fourth, give businesses owners fast, trespass for them.

907
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:44,880
We'll get you time to set.

908
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:46,900
Please bring your comments to a close.

909
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:48,660
Do one more sentence.

910
01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:52,540
Do not approve this project without securing

911
01:23:52,540 --> 01:23:57,540
in our businesses first. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Swivel. Next speaker, please

912
01:23:57,540 --> 01:23:58,100
Madam Clerk.

913
01:24:01,020 --> 01:24:01,900
Guadalupe, Sylva.

914
01:24:12,810 --> 01:24:14,070
Ms. Sova, Guadalupe,

915
01:24:19,260 --> 01:24:20,660
doesn't look like she's here.

916
01:24:20,780 --> 01:24:22,480
Would you just go on to the next person, please?

917
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Magnus, Lightborn.

918
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:32,900
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

919
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:33,420
Thank you.

920
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:35,560
Good evening, I'm Mayor Go, City Council members.

921
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,540
My name is Magnus, Lightborn.

922
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,160
Representing Ripple, Fibre, California.

923
01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:42,040
I'm here with our chief legal officer, Joshua Ornion.

924
01:24:42,580 --> 01:24:44,280
I just wanted to let you guys know we look forward

925
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,640
working with you to bring this high speed fiber optic internet service to the

926
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:52,640
underserved areas of the city. And we'd like to do it in the most

927
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:57,020
invasive manner as most non-invasive manner as possible. And I look forward to

928
01:24:57,020 --> 01:24:58,700
working with you guys and thank you for your cooperation.

929
01:25:00,220 --> 01:25:01,240
Thank you Mr. Viper.

930
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:03,820
Mental click next speaker please.

931
01:25:23,140 --> 01:25:30,620
Mayors and next four speakers are in person regarding item 11A. The first speaker is

932
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:42,960
So this is on the Clean Cities Special Project Fires.

933
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,040
It was possible.

934
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:44,780
So sorry.

935
01:25:44,860 --> 01:25:47,440
I would like to give my time to the residents who are here to speak on this.

936
01:25:47,460 --> 01:25:48,240
I was just supporting.

937
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,660
So I'd like to go to the residents first.

938
01:25:52,420 --> 01:25:54,000
Then, of course, please call the next speaker.

939
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:55,680
Thank you.

940
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,600
Nures Torres.

941
01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:17,950
Well, thank you.

942
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:19,510
My name is Nures Torres.

943
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:29,710
Adra desco al consejal eerix harías por escuchar nuestras inquietudes y tomar en cuenta las necesidades de nuestra comunidad.

944
01:26:30,270 --> 01:26:36,810
valoramos su atención y esperamos seguir trabajando juntos para mejorar nuestra ciudad.

945
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:49,310
También queremos solicitar su apoyo para que los ayude a realizar una investigación sobre unas personas que están inquietando nuestro vecindario.

946
01:26:49,510 --> 01:27:06,110
I want to thank you for

947
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:21,060
listening to our concerns, we want to talk about an issue that we have been having in the community.

948
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:27,100
We've greatly valued your attention in our efforts to be what a better our community.

949
01:27:27,460 --> 01:27:34,220
We also want to ask for your support to be able to do an investigation regarding some

950
01:27:34,220 --> 01:27:36,040
people who are concerning our communities.

951
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,600
There is a man who lives in a lot that has been abandoned by the community who has a

952
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,000
weapon.

953
01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:47,820
And I would like to establish a meeting so that we can go over the details.

954
01:27:47,820 --> 01:27:49,460
Thank you.

955
01:27:50,380 --> 01:27:52,340
Thank you, Ms. Torres, and Councilmember Ares.

956
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:53,620
Thank you, Mayor.

957
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:55,660
I just want to say thank you to Ms. Torres.

958
01:27:55,900 --> 01:27:59,020
Thank you, Nudies, for everything that you do for your community.

959
01:27:59,660 --> 01:28:01,960
I was a pleasure just a little more than a week ago.

960
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,060
Being out there in your neck of the woods, getting to walk the community

961
01:28:07,060 --> 01:28:09,580
and see all of the many challenges that you all are navigating.

962
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:15,260
So my heart goes out to and I just want you to know that we certainly hear you.

963
01:28:15,260 --> 01:28:19,380
And we want to do right by the community, but we couldn't do that without you.

964
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:20,740
So thank you for your advocacy.

965
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,100
And I want to like to ask, actually, our city attorney,

966
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,300
if I could get your help to reconvene our,

967
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,940
I'll call it a task force addressing some of the neighborhood level challenges

968
01:28:34,940 --> 01:28:38,540
and some of these bakers filled that we get a bigger police department

969
01:28:39,140 --> 01:28:42,280
and the city attorney's office together to meet with no reason

970
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,980
to talk about some of the safety challenges there.

971
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,080
Thank you.

972
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,880
Thank you, Councillor Biber, R.E.S.

973
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,420
And then I'll clear next speaker, please.

974
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:52,900
Johnny, a log is.

975
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:02,840
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

976
01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:05,980
Hello, my name is Johnny Ologas.

977
01:29:06,860 --> 01:29:07,380
Take the timer.

978
01:29:08,660 --> 01:29:11,080
I was here for something else.

979
01:29:11,380 --> 01:29:13,380
I actually flock and 11A.

980
01:29:14,380 --> 01:29:18,880
One of the issues with the dump site that was out in,

981
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:29,320
I believe it's word one if I'm correct, is I heard that they were trying to put cameras out there to find these individuals that were dumping the trash.

982
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:39,780
I am now trying to be solution-based and one of my proposals is instead of finding these individuals that dumped the trash.

983
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:43,880
How about we open the wood site for accepting trash?

984
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:51,840
So the wood site, I believe it's Tuesday through Saturday from 8 a.m. to 330.

985
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:56,660
My brother actually called me on Monday, he was going to take some wood from his house,

986
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,980
some tree trimmings or whatever, and he couldn't get to the wood.

987
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,200
He's like on Monday. He says, is the wood side open? I said, no, it's not. And so he's like, I don't want to go to

988
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:15,480
Bina, the line fill, right? Which you guys, I don't know if you know where Bina is. And so what ended up happening was my brother turned around when back home, right?

989
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:28,660
And he wasted his gas. And as we know, gas is really expensive right now. So my account, you know, I'm going to ask Zach, if you can please look into this, because we have a lot of trees in our area, a ton of trees.

990
01:30:28,660 --> 01:30:33,500
We're about to go into that season where I will probably take two trailers full of trees

991
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:36,160
of just my art is just a ton.

992
01:30:36,580 --> 01:30:39,160
So I will ask Zach to look into that.

993
01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:46,260
But I will ask, you know, I will tell Eric, you know, as far as the camera suggests, I think

994
01:30:46,260 --> 01:30:47,440
that's just a terrible idea.

995
01:30:47,780 --> 01:30:52,480
I think we should provide solutions and look at why people can't take the trash or their

996
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:53,360
tree trimmings.

997
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,800
Let's be more proactive about it and ask the community members.

998
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,830
I work in the trash industry, so that's how, you know, so anyway, the other thing is

999
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,340
Sanctuary city. Let's do it. You guys suck.

1000
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,240
Thank you Mr. Ologos and next speaker please

1001
01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:18,730
go. That was our final speaker. Thank you next item, please

1002
01:31:20,250 --> 01:31:21,330
Yeah, yeah

1003
01:31:22,170 --> 01:31:28,660
We need a break at this point to think. So let's take a break for 10 minutes and

1004
01:31:28,660 --> 01:31:33,180
And we'll be back for more city business.

1005
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:14,630
Start gathering together and if we could have staff in the back to close the doors, please.

1006
01:40:15,090 --> 01:40:16,310
It's close enough to 10 minutes.

1007
01:40:26,890 --> 01:40:28,950
Council Member Coleman, we're ready to start.

1008
01:40:43,210 --> 01:40:47,010
Let's all sit down, please, so we can continue the meeting at 647.

1009
01:40:48,190 --> 01:40:50,370
Madam Clerk, would you please read the next item?

1010
01:40:53,090 --> 01:41:01,970
The staff member was provided transmitting corrective minutes for item 6A1, item 6F3,

1011
01:41:02,370 --> 01:41:09,190
transmitting correspondence, item 6F15, correcting the item title, and also please note

1012
01:41:09,190 --> 01:41:14,970
that item 6E1 contains a staff recommendation to adopt resolutions, approving salaries

1013
01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:17,110
and benefits for specified units.

1014
01:41:17,810 --> 01:41:27,110
Thank you, and we've had a request by Councilmember Smith to poll 6C4, and is that just a number two Councilmember?

1015
01:41:28,130 --> 01:41:28,770
That is correct.

1016
01:41:29,290 --> 01:41:30,170
Okay, thank you.

1017
01:41:30,890 --> 01:41:34,390
And I don't see any other requests for item to be poll, Councilmember Gonzalez?

1018
01:41:36,330 --> 01:41:41,110
Motion to approve consent calendar with the exception of 6C4.

1019
01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:42,550
Okay, thank you.

1020
01:41:42,990 --> 01:41:44,710
The motion please catch your votes.

1021
01:42:09,260 --> 01:42:14,880
The item is approved with the Council Member, we are voting no and Vice Mayor Corps absent.

1022
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:19,300
Thank you. And Council Member Smith has six C4.

1023
01:42:19,980 --> 01:42:26,460
Thank you, Mayor. This is the item that addresses the smoking in public parks.

1024
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:33,840
And I think that's a good thing to move away from smoking in public parks, but reading the original ordinance.

1025
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:41,080
I also noticed that it also prohibits bicycles and unicycles, and I think that all of our

1026
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:46,220
children have ridden bicycles in parks, and that we should, since we are kind of cleaning

1027
01:42:46,220 --> 01:42:52,660
this ordinance up that we can go ahead and allow bicycles and unicycles in parks, so I

1028
01:42:52,660 --> 01:42:56,640
would make that change to this cleanup ordinance.

1029
01:42:56,780 --> 01:42:58,180
Thank you.

1030
01:42:58,560 --> 01:42:58,860
Thank you.

1031
01:42:59,100 --> 01:42:59,460
You have a motion?

1032
01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:00,220
Please catch it.

1033
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:01,860
Oh, Council Member Arias.

1034
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:03,760
Thanks, Mayor, really quickly.

1035
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,500
I just wanted to thank the advocates for their work on this item.

1036
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:08,500
They brought it back to safe and healthy neighborhoods.

1037
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,140
Not too long ago, I made a wonderful presentation,

1038
01:43:12,340 --> 01:43:14,920
and I just think this signifies the continued work

1039
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,360
to make sure that we're creating these community spaces

1040
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,080
that are smoke free for our children.

1041
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,420
Thank you so much for the work on this.

1042
01:43:21,860 --> 01:43:24,880
I also want to take the recommendation that we explicitly

1043
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,180
call out that our parks are also smoke free zones.

1044
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,820
I have not had a chance to look through the entire document itself, but I would like to

1045
01:43:34,820 --> 01:43:36,480
make that ask that we make that explicit.

1046
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:37,820
Thank you.

1047
01:43:38,180 --> 01:43:42,020
It's so you have a motion to approve six C4.

1048
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,720
You have a motion to discuss your votes.

1049
01:44:05,530 --> 01:44:09,550
The motion is approved with Council Member Weere Voting No and Vice-Mere Corps absent.

1050
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:10,510
Thank you.

1051
01:44:10,750 --> 01:44:11,310
Next item, please.

1052
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:27,400
Consent calendar public hearings, item 7A, public hearing to consider the planning

1053
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:35,720
Commission's approval of General Plan Amendment and zone change number 23-0560 and it's proposed

1054
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,720
mitigated negative declaration.

1055
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:44,260
Item 7B, public hearing to consider planning commissions approval of General Plan Amendment,

1056
01:44:44,540 --> 01:44:52,480
zone change number 25-008 and it's proposed mitigated negative declaration.

1057
01:44:53,580 --> 01:44:59,960
Thank you. It's time for the consent calendar public hearings as the clerk said. The purpose of this section is to

1058
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:20,380
Out on all the items listed under consent calendar hearings in one motion without further comment. If anyone would like to speak on any of the hearing items listed, the item must be removed from the portion of this agenda. If an item is removed, it will be placed at the end of the regular public hearing portion of the agenda.

1059
01:45:20,380 --> 01:45:29,440
So, at this time, I will open consent calendar public hearing item seven A, B. Is there any one of the

1060
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:33,620
audience who would like to request that a hearing item be removed from the consent calendar?

1061
01:45:33,940 --> 01:45:40,180
If so, please come forward. This isn't the time to take testimony. Only remove the matter from the consent calendar hearing.

1062
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:49,700
Mayor, go. We did receive a request to remove item 7A from the consent calendar public hearings.

1063
01:45:50,780 --> 01:45:55,540
Thank you. And then does any council member wish to remove any other item?

1064
01:46:03,310 --> 01:46:11,190
Right. So at this time consent calendar public hearing item 7B is now closed.

1065
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,640
And do we have a motion on that?

1066
01:46:18,020 --> 01:46:24,100
Mayor, I'll make a motion to adopt consent calendar public hearing items 7B.

1067
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,400
You have a motion? Please, test your votes.

1068
01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:45,090
The item is approved with Council Member Core Absent.

1069
01:46:45,950 --> 01:46:47,170
Thank you, next item, please.

1070
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:59,360
Hearing's item 8A, public hearing, public appeal hearing of planning commissions approval,

1071
01:46:59,620 --> 01:47:03,720
investing tentative track map number 7451 phased.

1072
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:09,680
Macintosh and Associates representing Diamond Farming Company is proposing to submit sub-devide

1073
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:17,840
40.77 acres into 313 single-family residential lots. One multi-use trail lot and one

1074
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:24,180
parklot and the R2 small lot single unit dwelling zone located generally southeast of all of

1075
01:47:24,180 --> 01:47:28,540
Drive and Santa Fe Way. Sierra Club appealed the planning commission decision,

1076
01:47:28,540 --> 01:47:35,160
developer Tom D from RFG properties ink requested the public appeal hearing be opened and

1077
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:41,060
continue to September 16th, 2026 since they are negotiating a settlement with the appellate

1078
01:47:41,060 --> 01:47:48,800
Sierra Club. I'm sorry did we skip seven A? We'll come back to that at the end of the hearings.

1079
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:49,600
Okay.

1080
01:47:51,890 --> 01:47:57,270
So for the public hearings each side will be allowed 20 minutes. It's 20 minutes for all

1081
01:47:57,270 --> 01:48:02,010
speakers per site 10 minutes for in-person speakers 10 minutes for speakers by phone. It's

1082
01:48:02,010 --> 01:48:06,550
important that you identify yourself, make your statements distinctly so others may speak.

1083
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:11,570
If there's testimony on both sites, each side will be allowed a 10 minute rebuttal. There's

1084
01:48:11,570 --> 01:48:15,930
clock on the TV screens behind me, which indicates 20 minutes when you're called on,

1085
01:48:16,050 --> 01:48:20,690
please identify yourself. You may ask questions during your statement, but they won't be addressed

1086
01:48:20,690 --> 01:48:25,010
until the public hearing is closed. If you've written comments that are longer than your

1087
01:48:25,010 --> 01:48:29,750
statement given to the clerk and shall provide copies to the council. Please be courteous to

1088
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:30,950
others who wish to speak.

1089
01:48:32,990 --> 01:48:37,710
So at this time, public hearing item 8A is open. Before we begin,

1090
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:43,310
I'd like to acknowledge that staff recommends that we open and continue this public hearing

1091
01:48:43,310 --> 01:48:49,430
to the September 16th, 2026 City Council meeting pending negotiations of the settlement. While

1092
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:54,610
the public can still make public comments today, we encourage you to wait until the item is heard

1093
01:48:54,610 --> 01:48:56,590
on September 16th.

1094
01:48:56,650 --> 01:49:02,650
Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers in opposition or in favor of this item?

1095
01:49:03,530 --> 01:49:04,030
Mayor, go.

1096
01:49:04,150 --> 01:49:10,330
We have not received any requests to speak in opposition or in favor of this item either by

1097
01:49:10,330 --> 01:49:11,630
phone or in person.

1098
01:49:12,490 --> 01:49:12,970
Thank you.

1099
01:49:13,450 --> 01:49:14,390
Next item, please.

1100
01:49:17,260 --> 01:49:18,480
Don't we need a motion to continue?

1101
01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:18,740
Yes.

1102
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,460
We do need a motion to continue.

1103
01:49:20,860 --> 01:49:22,020
I would like to make that move.

1104
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:25,580
Councilmember Smith made a motion to continue this item.

1105
01:49:25,580 --> 01:49:27,940
You have a motion, please cast your votes.

1106
01:49:37,450 --> 01:49:40,690
The item is approved with Vice-Mere Corps absent.

1107
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:42,190
Thank you.

1108
01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:44,270
Man, a clerk next item, please.

1109
01:49:52,380 --> 01:49:54,140
Item 7A.

1110
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,000
Public hearing to consider the planning commissions.

1111
01:49:58,060 --> 01:50:04,140
Approval of General Plan Amendment and zone change number 23-0560.

1112
01:50:04,500 --> 01:50:07,120
And as proposed, mitigated negative declaration.

1113
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:12,010
and click what about 8B.

1114
01:50:16,820 --> 01:50:17,660
Somebody made this mistake.

1115
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:19,320
All right, there is no 8B.

1116
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:24,720
All right, we're on to 7A Council Member Smith.

1117
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:26,960
Are you the one who pulled it initially?

1118
01:50:27,420 --> 01:50:28,560
No, somebody else did.

1119
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:29,780
City manager, click.

1120
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:32,920
Mayor and Council are a developer.

1121
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,280
Our developer can just give a quick summary of this.

1122
01:50:36,580 --> 01:50:40,960
Pending any questions and response to those that wanted

1123
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:42,920
to have this item discussed separately.

1124
01:50:45,620 --> 01:50:48,520
Even Council members, what we have in front of us is

1125
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,220
Jerome Plano Amendment, 230560,

1126
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:53,880
property owner, ATG, and investment LLC.

1127
01:50:54,500 --> 01:50:56,900
Projectscription and the Jerome Plano Amendment

1128
01:50:56,900 --> 01:51:00,000
has owned change for 24.8, eight, six acres,

1129
01:51:00,660 --> 01:51:03,800
the project intends to develop 6.36 acres commercial land

1130
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:05,140
on northern person the property,

1131
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,500
and the project intends to develop 18.5 acres

1132
01:51:08,500 --> 01:51:09,760
as a multifamily residential

1133
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,260
on the southern person the parcel.

1134
01:51:11,260 --> 01:51:15,180
Conceptual development plans have been submitted for a commercial person, but no

1135
01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:18,620
development plans have been submitted for the residential portion at this time.

1136
01:51:18,940 --> 01:51:23,000
Located in the southwest corner of Tafht Highway, Ash Road, in Ward 7.

1137
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,540
Seco-Doculate is an M&D.

1138
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:31,560
Plank Commissioner proved this project until I 16th, no speakers in favor or opposition

1139
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:32,880
at that hearing.

1140
01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:36,960
Stack recommends the project has been found consistent with general plan policies and

1141
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:40,800
city zoning ordinances requirements for these reasons, city staff recommends

1142
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:46,080
Approval of the Journal of Plan and Amendment and Zone Change for Project 23, 0.560.

1143
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,280
Thank you.

1144
01:52:00,910 --> 01:52:01,030
Copy.

1145
01:52:34,580 --> 01:52:38,880
So at this time, public item 7A is open.

1146
01:52:43,710 --> 01:52:47,350
Then we have a request to speak on this item.

1147
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:52,810
Mayor Go, we've received one request to speak in opposition to staff's recommendation.

1148
01:52:54,570 --> 01:52:56,510
and go ahead and call that speaker.

1149
01:52:56,990 --> 01:52:58,290
Use the draw, Osby,

1150
01:53:03,310 --> 01:53:05,310
is that person in person,

1151
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:07,350
or was that specific on the phone?

1152
01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:10,810
There go the request was for in person.

1153
01:53:11,470 --> 01:53:11,790
Thank you.

1154
01:53:11,850 --> 01:53:14,130
And I don't see that she is present here.

1155
01:53:14,810 --> 01:53:16,810
My assumption, Mary, you know, if I may,

1156
01:53:17,370 --> 01:53:21,830
is that it may have been another item besides this item

1157
01:53:21,830 --> 01:53:23,870
that was made perhaps mislabeled.

1158
01:53:23,930 --> 01:53:24,230
OK.

1159
01:53:24,890 --> 01:53:25,850
Thank you.

1160
01:53:27,910 --> 01:53:31,630
And so, does anybody want to make a motion on this item?

1161
01:53:31,850 --> 01:53:32,650
Councilmember Smith.

1162
01:53:32,910 --> 01:53:34,970
I'll make the motion to approve.

1163
01:53:36,190 --> 01:53:39,610
You have a motion on seven A, please catch your votes.

1164
01:53:42,250 --> 01:53:43,710
Out, the curing is closed.

1165
01:53:44,170 --> 01:53:44,890
Now, you have a motion.

1166
01:53:56,890 --> 01:53:59,170
There's some interesting music coming from somewhere.

1167
01:53:59,630 --> 01:54:01,290
Staff, so if you want to attend to that,

1168
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:11,310
did you already vote?

1169
01:54:19,860 --> 01:54:22,500
The item is approved with Vice-Mare Corps absent.

1170
01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:25,540
Thank you.

1171
01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:30,700
Next item, please.

1172
01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:48,480
Item 10 A. Interfund loan to complete the acquisition of 1430 and 1440 trucks in Avenue

1173
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,140
pursuant to Council approved purchase agreement.

1174
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:53,560
Thank you.

1175
01:54:53,580 --> 01:55:00,480
Sorry, Margot. There was a blue memo prepared for this item. Transmitting an updated resolution.

1176
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,640
Thank you, Madam City Clerk. Mr. Cleg.

1177
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:10,540
Thank you, Marron Council. As we jump into this item, I will remind your council that this

1178
01:55:10,540 --> 01:55:13,840
This was before you in March of this year earlier.

1179
01:55:14,300 --> 01:55:23,200
Your city council approved a purchase and a lease and purchase and sale agreement contingent

1180
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:27,380
on a due diligence period for this site.

1181
01:55:28,020 --> 01:55:32,700
We'll walk through the background again on this because it is a large decision and large item.

1182
01:55:32,700 --> 01:55:41,420
But in quick summary, this project really was initiated out of an effort to save our operating

1183
01:55:41,420 --> 01:55:49,420
dollars to gain efficiencies and to focus on a long-term solution to a need that we had

1184
01:55:49,420 --> 01:55:55,640
that was costing us more dollars than made sense for our operations.

1185
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,320
to

1186
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,540
be clerk, I'm having a hard time making this advance.

1187
01:56:13,630 --> 01:56:14,910
Thank you, Mr. Marcus.

1188
01:56:16,450 --> 01:56:18,290
So again, this goes all the way back to 2021.

1189
01:56:19,090 --> 01:56:23,090
We were in a mode where we were in the process of hiring

1190
01:56:23,090 --> 01:56:27,350
100 police officers as well as some support staff in the police department.

1191
01:56:27,630 --> 01:56:29,850
We had significant space challenges.

1192
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:33,010
We did a space planning study.

1193
01:56:33,330 --> 01:56:35,970
I identified future space needs,

1194
01:56:35,970 --> 01:56:43,050
but also we did not have the capacity at the time to address those with the expense of new

1195
01:56:43,050 --> 01:56:50,370
build projects. And so we were in a position where we needed to lease office space to house

1196
01:56:50,370 --> 01:56:57,010
our growing police department. And we also did citywide office space assessments in 23 and 24,

1197
01:56:57,630 --> 01:57:04,750
but we have been leasing space in a building that is outside of our downtown core since 2021,

1198
01:57:04,750 --> 01:57:09,170
And those lease payments have been escalating up towards last year.

1199
01:57:09,250 --> 01:57:15,450
It was $900,000 and next year we anticipated to be over a million dollars for those lease payments.

1200
01:57:15,710 --> 01:57:20,350
At the time, there was limited suitable office space in the downtown core,

1201
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:26,350
but the council all the time approved that move out of the urgency that we had,

1202
01:57:26,590 --> 01:57:32,490
but gave direction to try and look for long-term space back in the downtown core at some point in the future.

1203
01:57:33,850 --> 01:57:40,090
So, there were multiple properties that were assessed in 2024 and 2025 to think about those

1204
01:57:40,090 --> 01:57:40,870
long term needs.

1205
01:57:42,650 --> 01:57:50,290
We found that the trucks in tower became a realistic option in 2025 and started the process

1206
01:57:50,290 --> 01:57:53,590
of doing the analysis and approaching the property owners.

1207
01:57:54,890 --> 01:58:01,230
And again, there's a unique opportunity that this move will offer a significant savings while

1208
01:58:01,230 --> 01:58:04,070
addressing that long-term space needs into the future.

1209
01:58:05,350 --> 01:58:10,910
Just in summary, there is an immediate savings of $350,000 a year of our operating

1210
01:58:10,910 --> 01:58:21,010
dollars and after the payment for our internal fund loan that would represent a savings

1211
01:58:21,010 --> 01:58:24,950
of more than a million dollars a year after the 12-year term of that loan.

1212
01:58:25,810 --> 01:58:30,370
This is just an oriented, again, council and community to where this location is.

1213
01:58:30,790 --> 01:58:39,350
It is the taller tower portion, as well as that orange color, they're labeled 11 and the parking garage behind it.

1214
01:58:39,430 --> 01:58:54,350
Significant parking space to the advantage of the tenants of the building, the city, and ultimately our parking enterprise that will make that parking available in the evenings to customers downtown and to expand our enterprise beyond

1215
01:58:54,350 --> 01:58:56,610
are current parking garage.

1216
01:58:58,170 --> 01:59:03,690
This is mostly for the public record to just reflect the space and where we're going to

1217
01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:08,830
initially occupy space for the police department, so we're moving the police department

1218
01:59:09,690 --> 01:59:17,050
into three floors of office space and one floor, the ground floor for some training space.

1219
01:59:17,650 --> 01:59:22,710
And that is already subject to the lease agreement as approved by Council, but as we move

1220
01:59:22,710 --> 01:59:30,310
with purchase, then we would still occupy that space, but it is 122,000 square foot building

1221
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:35,890
that allows us to have many other tenants that help to pay for the net operating cost of that building.

1222
01:59:37,550 --> 01:59:42,230
And that gets us to the rationale. Again, it gives us the opportunity to

1223
01:59:44,130 --> 01:59:49,450
manage our timing and our costs and our space needs while getting a long-term solution.

1224
01:59:49,450 --> 01:59:52,110
We don't need to occupy the entire space.

1225
01:59:52,750 --> 01:59:59,970
We can slowly over time as our community grows, and we have additional needs to serve our community.

1226
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,760
Community to potentially occupy additional space, but we don't have to. And having those lease revenues

1227
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:15,080
come in to help again with our operating costs as a huge advantage. And in particular, it was the

1228
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:22,840
a very expensive, least payments that we're able to eliminate and consolidate staff and it also

1229
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:28,900
improve our operational efficiencies. Again, note the number of parking spaces is significant

1230
02:00:28,900 --> 02:00:35,620
and it is in the heart of downtown and positioned very close to City Hall that allows us to

1231
02:00:36,140 --> 02:00:43,460
continue to move forward and work in closely together as City Team. And we just note

1232
02:00:43,460 --> 02:00:51,920
lastly that we were able to have a favorable purchase price given some of our market timing.

1233
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,920
and that the value, which we're purchasing,

1234
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:58,800
this is significantly below the appraised value,

1235
02:00:59,900 --> 02:01:02,580
and again has multiple long-term tenants.

1236
02:01:04,580 --> 02:01:07,340
We completed our due diligence period at the end of July.

1237
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:13,340
We saw no red flags, there are not any facility issues

1238
02:01:13,340 --> 02:01:16,620
that aren't beyond what we would consider regular maintenance.

1239
02:01:17,180 --> 02:01:20,840
We did through the process identify some of those maintenance needs

1240
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:22,620
that are going to come up in the next five to 10 years,

1241
02:01:22,620 --> 02:01:27,640
and that's important and valuable. There are a couple of smaller issues that we're agreed

1242
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:35,360
to be addressed before a close on the property as well as some consideration for our maintenance

1243
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:41,000
costs in the first year because we do anticipate needing to do some maintenance in year one.

1244
02:01:41,580 --> 02:01:51,000
We already had a $425,000 deposit on this property that would go towards the purchase price.

1245
02:01:52,060 --> 02:02:06,260
And we are underway in the planning process to move the police department in as we had made the choice that we would either lease or purchase moving forward just to get out of the other lease costs that we're facing at the other location.

1246
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:18,420
So again in short summary after our due diligence staff is recommending that we move forward because there are new issues that suggest that we shouldn't acquire the building.

1247
02:02:18,420 --> 02:02:19,240
A

1248
02:02:21,420 --> 02:02:28,320
few more, I think just valuable reflections on why we feel this is such a move for the city.

1249
02:02:29,140 --> 02:02:32,960
The existing tenants have a very stable rental income stream.

1250
02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:35,680
You see that there on the screen.

1251
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:40,820
There are a variety of different tenants and varying lease agreements,

1252
02:02:41,300 --> 02:02:43,360
but several of those are also long-term tenants.

1253
02:02:43,860 --> 02:02:46,060
We do have about 21% vacancy.

1254
02:02:46,060 --> 02:02:51,420
the average vacancy for office space in downtown is closer to 6%

1255
02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:55,580
citywide, it's closer to 8% and so we think there's work we can go

1256
02:02:55,580 --> 02:03:02,100
due to acquire additional tenants that would help us continue to offset our operating costs.

1257
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:07,620
The performer that's before your council does not include assumptions of additional revenues

1258
02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:13,820
from those leases. We took a conservative approach and it's based on current plus one

1259
02:03:13,820 --> 02:03:21,420
that's based on a notable letter of interest that has been issued to occupy that space.

1260
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:27,620
And so any additional space that gets least only helps improve our net operating, which

1261
02:03:27,620 --> 02:03:31,600
already, again, achieves that $350,000 savings per year.

1262
02:03:32,500 --> 02:03:39,200
But also very importantly, the preserve is a very important building in the core corridor

1263
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:48,240
for trucks and preserves our economic activity downtown and again that phased city expansion

1264
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:53,880
as needed. These are numbers that were provided in the administrative report and these

1265
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:58,000
are the numbers where I'm giving you, again, our lease payments were going to be over a

1266
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:06,240
million dollars a year in this coming year. Our total payments for debt service against

1267
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:14,580
this Interfund loan would be $636,000, which is why I'm saying that the million minus the

1268
02:04:14,580 --> 02:04:23,640
$366, that's your $350 I rounded down, $350,000 in savings every year, and those payments

1269
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:30,960
that we're making from our capital improvement program each year, free up the operating dollars

1270
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:35,620
on the police side and they go towards the acquisition of this long-term asset.

1271
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:41,180
So instead of growing money away to a lease that didn't result in any long-term asset,

1272
02:04:41,860 --> 02:04:48,620
this now does put us in a position to have acquired this long-term asset.

1273
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:57,100
Lastly, I noted earlier that we had a space that we could continue to lease.

1274
02:04:57,100 --> 02:05:06,920
These are just some square foot estimates and some conservative estimated lease revenues that could come from those additional spaces.

1275
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:19,360
And as you'll note, that would significantly again increase that revenue and notably decrease the amount of capital dollars that would need to go towards debt service each year.

1276
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:26,120
And we feel that several years into this payback of our

1277
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:28,340
inner fund loan that we're likely to be in a position

1278
02:05:28,340 --> 02:05:34,880
or the full debt service is being paid by the net operating revenues from the building.

1279
02:05:37,740 --> 02:05:40,640
There are actually still two options in front of us.

1280
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:47,120
There is the option to move with purpose and to close by the end of this month.

1281
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:49,660
And that would represent a significant savings.

1282
02:05:49,660 --> 02:05:57,300
say $100,000, and I don't see any reason not to move now, if we chose to exercise our

1283
02:05:57,300 --> 02:06:03,900
purchase option at a later date, the price would change notably, and our deposit, again,

1284
02:06:05,620 --> 02:06:10,640
has already, where past our due diligence period, the deposit has gone hard and we would not

1285
02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:18,580
get that deposit back if we don't move forward. And again, significant savings with the early exercise

1286
02:06:18,580 --> 02:06:25,200
option that would recommend in front of you. This is a lot of numbers but we wanted to be

1287
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:32,500
transparent and demonstrate what our debt service payments look like. Again, this is a 2.5%

1288
02:06:32,500 --> 02:06:38,960
interest loan over 12 years. At the same time, we're using some of our capital facility reserve

1289
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:45,600
about $2.5 million in total and we're going to pay that back over the next five years to make

1290
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:51,440
that that is restored as a and I probably should have done this at the outset I apologize

1291
02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:56,340
it did not. As a recommendation to use an Interfund loan what this means what we're doing

1292
02:06:56,340 --> 02:07:01,360
is we have reserves in our equipment fund that we're going to borrow against or borrowing

1293
02:07:01,360 --> 02:07:07,000
against our own reserve dollars. But it's at a 2.5% interest rate because we don't want to

1294
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:13,520
lose a value that our reserves would have gained had they been invested in the market. And so

1295
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:24,020
we always invest our reserves and this represents a five-year average of what our reserve interest

1296
02:07:24,020 --> 02:07:30,940
income has been, and that 2.5% is a fair way to make sure that we're not losing money in our

1297
02:07:30,940 --> 02:07:39,460
reserves by making this interfund loan. Some might question why do we choose this particular way

1298
02:07:39,460 --> 02:07:48,280
financing. It's far more cost-effective than going out and trying to loan or bond in the

1299
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:53,300
private markets because you have to pay higher interest rates. You also have to pay transactional

1300
02:07:53,300 --> 02:08:02,260
costs. And it's in the scope at $12 million. It's in the scope that our interfund reserves

1301
02:08:02,260 --> 02:08:07,660
can handle. We can't do larger projects that might be tens of millions or a hundred million

1302
02:08:07,660 --> 02:08:15,120
But we have a reserve that is over $100 million in our equipment fund and we have a

1303
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:18,360
54 million dollar unrestricted reserve in the equipment fund.

1304
02:08:18,740 --> 02:08:23,620
And so this is about the right size for us to do a very meaningful project that's going to

1305
02:08:23,620 --> 02:08:31,120
save us a lot of money and a short time frame still make that equipment fund whole again.

1306
02:08:32,540 --> 02:08:36,640
So, that is our recommendation from you, the City Council, a 12.1 million dollar

1307
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:41,520
fund loan, that we would appropriate those to our capital outlifund and appropriate

1308
02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:46,300
the remaining 2 million from the capital facility reserve to our capital outlifund.

1309
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:50,640
It's a total of 2.5 towards this project from the capital outlifund.

1310
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:55,900
The other 425 is the deposit that we already made, and without them, I'm happy to answer

1311
02:08:55,900 --> 02:08:56,420
any questions.

1312
02:08:57,340 --> 02:08:58,640
Thank you, Mr. Klig.

1313
02:08:58,940 --> 02:08:59,900
Council member Gonzales.

1314
02:08:59,900 --> 02:09:07,440
Thank you, Mayor, thank you, Mr. Collect, for the presentation. We've had a lot of conversation about this. I just want to for the sake of over the benefit of the public

1315
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:12,080
Ask a few questions, and then I wanted to ask a couple of questions for my

1316
02:09:13,820 --> 02:09:19,940
Benefit number one is you know, we talk a lot about inner funds, but that that may that may be jargon for

1317
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:23,160
You know, my constituents people in the community

1318
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:29,880
What I think what we're doing is correct me from wrong, but we're borrowing from ourselves in the sense

1319
02:09:29,900 --> 02:09:36,600
that, you know, we have a general fund, which most people refer to as the city budget and

1320
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:42,100
most folks when they come to council and they talk about their priorities for the city,

1321
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:47,960
will be typically referencing the general fund. This is where most of our sales tax,

1322
02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:54,780
property tax revenue goes into is where we earn and how we spend money. But we also have additional

1323
02:09:54,780 --> 02:09:58,640
funds, additional separate funds that are not co-mingled,

1324
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,560
that are, in fact, separate.

1325
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:09,640
And these funds include the City Equipment Internal Service Fund, the Capital Outlave Fund,

1326
02:10:10,540 --> 02:10:15,520
and what we're doing is we're borrowing from those particular funds that can only be used

1327
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,740
for certain purposes. Am I right so far?

1328
02:10:17,740 --> 02:10:19,540
Yes, that's correct, Councilmember.

1329
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,920
And I would just reflect really quickly.

1330
02:10:22,780 --> 02:10:23,740
You are correct.

1331
02:10:23,820 --> 02:10:25,120
We're borrowing from ourselves.

1332
02:10:25,820 --> 02:10:30,320
The equipment fund is a dedicated fund that is separate from the general fund,

1333
02:10:31,340 --> 02:10:36,820
and the dollars that go into that equipment fund actually come from the general fund,

1334
02:10:36,920 --> 02:10:38,140
and several of our other funds.

1335
02:10:38,260 --> 02:10:41,300
But they have to be protected only for the use of purchase of equipment.

1336
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:45,720
But again, as a healthy reserve sits over there,

1337
02:10:45,720 --> 02:10:51,400
it's an opportunity to borrow against that from ourselves, but because it is dedicated to

1338
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:57,220
specific purpose, it does have to be paid back with interest. So when we say that we're saving money,

1339
02:10:57,500 --> 02:11:04,040
we are saving money because today, we are spending money on a current lease agreement for space

1340
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:09,920
that we need for big, so police department, and we pay a million dollars annually. And where do

1341
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:15,100
those funds come from? Thank you, Gunsmart, that is coming out of the general fund, the savings that we're

1342
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,260
achieving is going to be to the general fund.

1343
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:21,840
So we will, because we have to pay ourselves back

1344
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:24,440
within these additional, these other funds,

1345
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,280
we will be saving $350,000 a year,

1346
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:33,000
and then in the 13th year, then we will be saving $1,000,000 at least.

1347
02:11:33,460 --> 02:11:37,240
Because these lease agreements, they don't get cheaper

1348
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,800
over time, just like my rent.

1349
02:11:41,300 --> 02:11:42,420
It's only gotten more expensive.

1350
02:11:42,420 --> 02:11:48,840
of, you know, the lease agreement will likely be even more expensive in the future. Is that right?

1351
02:11:49,220 --> 02:11:53,760
That is correct. It's a conservative savings of a million dollars a year. It will only increase

1352
02:11:53,760 --> 02:12:01,840
over the life of this loan payback. So over the next 12 years, we'll be paying 12 million dollars

1353
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:08,700
if we choose not to pursue this. That is correct. The other thing is, the thing I really like about this project

1354
02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:15,980
is that it, you know, it occupies a building that currently has a 21% vacancy rate.

1355
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,780
You mentioned there's a current 21% vacancy rate.

1356
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:24,560
Is that including the anticipated use from Baxle Police Department in the city?

1357
02:12:27,100 --> 02:12:31,800
When police occupies it, there will still be 21% vacancy.

1358
02:12:31,980 --> 02:12:32,400
Got it.

1359
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:39,940
but we are already having conversations with potential tenants in anticipation of the city's

1360
02:12:39,940 --> 02:12:40,140
purchase.

1361
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:45,980
Absolutely, and it has been actively marketed, I think it's fair to know that, but also

1362
02:12:45,980 --> 02:12:53,640
we feel that as the city enters the building, as the owner, and as an attendant, there

1363
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:59,040
may be some tenants who look at that and make some considerations, but we also think some

1364
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:03,460
potential tenants would see that as an attractive relationship.

1365
02:13:03,940 --> 02:13:08,420
We'll leverage all of our relationships that we have as well to make sure that we can fill

1366
02:13:08,420 --> 02:13:09,900
that space as much as possible.

1367
02:13:10,720 --> 02:13:11,120
Great.

1368
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:16,340
The second to the last point, parking is a huge benefit because parking is limited in

1369
02:13:16,340 --> 02:13:16,720
downtown.

1370
02:13:16,900 --> 02:13:23,360
It is one of the most controversial issues in downtown Bakes, given its scarcity.

1371
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:27,620
How much does it cost to build a parking structure?

1372
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,420
I think you can count some member, and I'm hearing count some of it to build a parking

1373
02:13:31,420 --> 02:13:36,500
structure depends a little bit on the size of course, but a parking structure that would

1374
02:13:36,500 --> 02:13:43,660
be 300 plus stalls as a 323 stall parking garage could be easily $50 million dollars.

1375
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:44,100
It built.

1376
02:13:45,020 --> 02:13:46,680
50 million dollars to build a new structure.

1377
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:47,020
Correct.

1378
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:47,400
Yeah.

1379
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:49,140
That's not going to happen any time soon.

1380
02:13:49,300 --> 02:13:52,360
At least with the city of Vegas, we'll give an hour current in this way.

1381
02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:55,100
So I think this is a good move even for that.

1382
02:13:55,100 --> 02:14:02,040
And then my last point is, tonight we're also considering an item related to a vacant property

1383
02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:09,060
that has seen many code violations, and we know all too well in this city.

1384
02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:13,460
What happens when buildings remain underutilized or even vacant?

1385
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:21,040
It becomes a huge liability to the city because we have to expend resources by way of

1386
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:24,440
code enforcement, police department, fire department,

1387
02:14:25,160 --> 02:14:28,440
and else becomes just a nuisance to the surrounding

1388
02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:31,400
community. There are a lot of negative externalities

1389
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:34,800
related to some of these buildings that unfortunately

1390
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:37,420
are in the urban court. There's just a higher concentration.

1391
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:43,060
And the thing that I've always worried about is to see

1392
02:14:43,060 --> 02:14:50,200
this building fall into disrepair and to see many of the

1393
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:59,260
and it's leave as a result, and then whoever the future owner is seeing them not really caring for this property.

1394
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:22,200
And it becoming the major liability for all of us in this community. And so I think this is a really big win for not only the city of Bakersville, from a business perspective, but also for downtown and for the future of downtown Bakersville. So I'm going to make a motion tonight that we approve this. Thanks.

1395
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:23,080
Thank you.

1396
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:24,460
Councilmember Bessier-Tosh.

1397
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:35,080
I don't.

1398
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,360
We have to borrow.

1399
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:40,700
We have to be interested in money that we borrow from money count, Randy.

1400
02:15:42,020 --> 02:15:43,880
That's like a, that's a mandatory thing.

1401
02:15:49,850 --> 02:15:50,310
Good evening.

1402
02:15:51,070 --> 02:15:51,530
Councilmember.

1403
02:15:52,170 --> 02:15:53,450
That is really a best practice.

1404
02:15:53,610 --> 02:15:58,510
So what we did is we built this interfund loan policy based on other comparable cities.

1405
02:15:58,510 --> 02:16:02,630
And it really is, because it's an enterprise fund,

1406
02:16:03,250 --> 02:16:05,410
it really is the proper approach.

1407
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:08,630
Those funds are really belonging to the Equipment Fund.

1408
02:16:09,150 --> 02:16:11,730
And so we want to really return those dollars

1409
02:16:12,490 --> 02:16:14,590
with what they would have earned if they would have

1410
02:16:14,590 --> 02:16:16,330
been made in an investment fund.

1411
02:16:16,610 --> 02:16:17,770
So that's really best practice.

1412
02:16:18,430 --> 02:16:18,850
Thank you.

1413
02:16:19,610 --> 02:16:20,530
That's, I promise you right now,

1414
02:16:20,630 --> 02:16:21,550
I want to ask you any more question.

1415
02:16:21,610 --> 02:16:22,430
That was the only one.

1416
02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:33,440
So the freezing and vocabulary behind the conversation that I just listened to was a little

1417
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:38,780
bit bothersome to me because it's not our money, it's taxpayer money, we're going to pay

1418
02:16:38,780 --> 02:16:47,160
interest on tax, we're going to pay interest with taxpayer money on tax payer money for

1419
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:53,540
something, I just, I mean that makes me sick to my stomach, we're going to pay interest

1420
02:16:53,540 --> 02:16:59,120
on taxpayer money, because we're not making money by investing it, that just sounds so

1421
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:04,460
backwards to me. We're going to take more money from the people to pay for the money we already

1422
02:17:04,460 --> 02:17:11,880
took from the people. That doesn't make sense to me. This is going to be so much more costly.

1423
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:17,480
It's a 1974 building every year that goes by in my life, and I'm not even a building. I break down

1424
02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:22,420
and cost more. I can only imagine what the floor space to this, that parking structure looks like.

1425
02:17:22,420 --> 02:17:26,860
I think it would be very cheap to have parking if we tore it all down and had a gravel

1426
02:17:26,860 --> 02:17:31,840
lot with striped lines, the current kind of fair, it would cost maybe half a million dollars,

1427
02:17:32,300 --> 02:17:38,920
but this is going to cost so much money and in a time when we're listening to people that

1428
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:43,500
have businesses on union that are getting shot up and we can't do anything to help with that

1429
02:17:43,500 --> 02:17:49,240
or we're trying to create gel bed space but we're moving real slow, I don't understand

1430
02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:58,260
And how we can allocate money to anything outside of fixing the problem that is plugging business owners that are coming here on a Wednesday night to speak and begging for help.

1431
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:01,560
I just, I don't support this.

1432
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:03,740
I think it's going to cost so much more money.

1433
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:08,040
I don't understand how we're going to pay interest on taxpayer money by taking more money from the taxpayers.

1434
02:18:09,320 --> 02:18:12,220
But, you know, that's those are my comments.

1435
02:18:12,220 --> 02:18:13,260
Council

1436
02:18:15,980 --> 02:18:16,860
Member Coleman.

1437
02:18:20,390 --> 02:18:20,870
Thank you, Mayor.

1438
02:18:23,790 --> 02:18:27,450
So I wanted to address two things.

1439
02:18:28,050 --> 02:18:31,890
I wanted to first address this interfund transfer

1440
02:18:31,890 --> 02:18:35,490
because there's people been out there talking about

1441
02:18:36,990 --> 02:18:39,550
how it's some kind of accounting trick

1442
02:18:39,550 --> 02:18:42,290
or we're doing something shady.

1443
02:18:44,910 --> 02:18:47,250
The interfund, first of all,

1444
02:18:47,250 --> 02:18:51,470
That air fund that we're going to borrow the money for,

1445
02:18:51,630 --> 02:18:52,870
that's the Equipment Fund.

1446
02:18:55,130 --> 02:19:00,530
Can you please tell me where that money in the Equipment Fund comes from?

1447
02:19:01,090 --> 02:19:02,050
Yeah, I think it comes from a moment.

1448
02:19:03,450 --> 02:19:06,970
The Equipment Fund, by the way, is principally vehicles,

1449
02:19:07,550 --> 02:19:10,810
although there are a few other large value pieces of equipment

1450
02:19:10,810 --> 02:19:12,410
that we include in the Equipment Fund,

1451
02:19:12,470 --> 02:19:15,290
but we're not talking about equipment like shovels and rakes.

1452
02:19:15,290 --> 02:19:25,310
This is high dollar value equipment, and so that equipment fund is funded by almost all of our funds.

1453
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:31,090
So some of it comes from the general fund, some of it comes from our other enterprise funds.

1454
02:19:31,350 --> 02:19:35,430
But because they're coming from other enterprise funds, let's say it comes from the water fund.

1455
02:19:35,430 --> 02:19:41,950
Those are protected dollars, right payers, paid those dollars, and so that's why we feel

1456
02:19:41,950 --> 02:19:47,970
it is appropriate to pay back the interest on that loan because it is a best accounting

1457
02:19:47,970 --> 02:19:53,950
practice to account for each of these funds distinctly and openly, and I think I'll read

1458
02:19:53,950 --> 02:19:57,190
a little bit into your question as well, Council Member Comin, which I think is a good question.

1459
02:19:58,370 --> 02:20:04,550
In our annual financial reporting documents, we report on each of these funds independently.

1460
02:20:04,550 --> 02:20:11,510
They are accounted for separately independently, and those dollars are collected from each

1461
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:15,110
of the other funds to buy all the equipment we need across all of the funds.

1462
02:20:16,310 --> 02:20:23,630
But again, that is one of our funds that, of course, it represents the value of all of

1463
02:20:23,630 --> 02:20:24,170
that equipment.

1464
02:20:24,530 --> 02:20:30,790
And so if we had multiple large pieces of equipment that went out, and we had to replace those,

1465
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:36,950
That's where our reserves come in, but we have a fairly healthy reserve by comparison there.

1466
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:41,550
And so it is available for the Interfund loan, but it needs to all be

1467
02:20:41,550 --> 02:20:45,930
a documented and accounted for very clearly these are separate dollars.

1468
02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:56,380
Okay. So first of all, this is not new to the city of Baker's field.

1469
02:20:56,600 --> 02:20:57,180
That is.

1470
02:20:57,240 --> 02:20:58,840
All right. We've done it before.

1471
02:20:59,640 --> 02:21:01,280
That is correct. We have.

1472
02:21:01,280 --> 02:21:11,220
Because I remember in the redevelopment days, we did that from time to time to make some

1473
02:21:11,220 --> 02:21:14,920
of the middle-creek projects and that kind of thing work.

1474
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:18,420
As all that has been, many have been repaid, you know.

1475
02:21:19,500 --> 02:21:25,720
It has, I think, as it relates to the redevelopment fund, of course, there's, you know, when

1476
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:31,460
state shut that down, there were lots of complications, but of the city's

1477
02:21:31,460 --> 02:21:34,100
interfund loans, yes, all that has been repaid back.

1478
02:21:35,380 --> 02:21:40,880
So this is something that's a recognized, and I

1479
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:42,460
deal a little bit of my own research on this.

1480
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:47,900
I just kind of wanted to make a comment about this, because there

1481
02:21:47,900 --> 02:21:51,420
have been people out there saying that this is a county

1482
02:21:51,420 --> 02:21:58,100
districts and this is recognized by the California state controllers office and they have

1483
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:02,460
a very strict rules on on this.

1484
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:10,780
It's is common for municipalities to use in her fund borrowing.

1485
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:16,220
That is correct. It is very common and also the government finance officers association has a set of

1486
02:22:16,220 --> 02:22:19,280
guidelines that govern this as well as the state of California.

1487
02:22:20,040 --> 02:22:24,170
Okay, and can you tell me what the balance is in the equipment fund right now?

1488
02:22:24,820 --> 02:22:26,820
The equipment fund balance, let me pull that up.

1489
02:22:26,820 --> 02:22:28,100
I'm plus from minus the.

1490
02:22:29,740 --> 02:22:37,820
It's it's about a hundred and twenty million dollars and unrestricted is about fifty four million dollars.

1491
02:22:37,840 --> 02:22:41,340
So we're going to be taking the unrestricted amount correct.

1492
02:22:41,660 --> 02:22:41,700
Correct.

1493
02:22:41,700 --> 02:22:45,420
And so what will the balance be after we borrow the money?

1494
02:22:45,980 --> 02:22:46,600
Sorry, Council member.

1495
02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:48,840
I have to put on my head.

1496
02:22:49,240 --> 02:22:51,480
If Mr. McKee can you have it off the top of your head,

1497
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:52,300
you're free?

1498
02:22:52,740 --> 02:22:53,600
I do have it.

1499
02:22:54,600 --> 02:22:56,420
Well, it's 50, you say it's 54 million.

1500
02:22:56,520 --> 02:22:57,320
We're going to bar 12.

1501
02:22:58,580 --> 02:22:59,200
So, 40 points.

1502
02:22:59,580 --> 02:23:00,120
It's a simple matter.

1503
02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:00,840
I could have done that.

1504
02:23:00,980 --> 02:23:01,640
I can look at my notes.

1505
02:23:01,820 --> 02:23:08,760
I guess my question then becomes,

1506
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:12,500
we're still going to have 40 million dollars in a cow.

1507
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:15,320
Are we going to need this?

1508
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:35,320
We do not believe we do. In fact, we did some analysis and we have a very high level of confidence that we'll be able to back any equipment purchases that we need to over the full 12 years of this loan repayment with the

1509
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:44,520
I think I made my point about the Interfund loan, Interfund borrowing.

1510
02:23:46,180 --> 02:23:51,560
It's been done. We've just cities of Pickersfield has done it frequently in the past.

1511
02:23:52,760 --> 02:24:01,260
Other communities, California and outside of California use this practice to finance deals.

1512
02:24:01,980 --> 02:24:05,300
It's a good way to do it because you don't have to go out in the market.

1513
02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:15,440
And you mentioned that you would have to pay broker fees for somebody to put a bond out and that kind of thing and then you would probably have a higher interest rate

1514
02:24:15,440 --> 02:24:24,960
So I like the interfund borrowing as a as a tool. I like the fact that we're not talking putting it out there for 30 years

1515
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:30,740
We're going to pay it back in 12 years and frankly if you're going to have some operating

1516
02:24:30,740 --> 02:24:37,860
games, then you might be able to pay that down sooner, but I didn't want to talk about the

1517
02:24:37,860 --> 02:24:45,280
deal itself because in my history of things I've done, I've done these kind of real estate

1518
02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:52,520
analysis for investment groups and we've gone and assessed the property to make a buyer,

1519
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:55,100
to buy or no buy recommendation.

1520
02:24:56,500 --> 02:25:02,260
And so, to me, this is not a spectacular real-state deal.

1521
02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:06,060
You know, yeah, we'd like to be buying it for less.

1522
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:09,040
But it's a solid deal.

1523
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:11,780
And it's a defendable deal.

1524
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:14,700
And it pencils,

1525
02:25:17,240 --> 02:25:19,460
even without making any assumptions

1526
02:25:19,460 --> 02:25:27,840
about being able to knock that 21% vaccine factor down to 6% that's just going to be money in the bank.

1527
02:25:28,420 --> 02:25:33,680
And we have an appraisal that supports a value above the purchase price. Correct?

1528
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:36,440
That is correct. Okay.

1529
02:25:38,860 --> 02:25:42,960
There was some concern about the the high cost of utilities,

1530
02:25:43,240 --> 02:25:46,460
but there's been some progress in that correct. Yeah, I think you can't remember this

1531
02:25:46,460 --> 02:25:52,280
question that is also correct that there have been some energy efficiency measures to switch

1532
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:58,120
to LED lights throughout the building, but there are a couple additional energy efficiency

1533
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:02,240
projects that we think we could invest in to further lower the energy costs.

1534
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:11,920
I guess I want to make a point we're not buying a vacant building for us to use all the space.

1535
02:26:11,920 --> 02:26:16,980
So, it has some pre-set income coming in from these rentals.

1536
02:26:17,780 --> 02:26:18,280
That's correct.

1537
02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:25,000
One point for a million dollars in annual lease income.

1538
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:25,700
That's significant.

1539
02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:31,440
Which is not, is that included the money worth spending for the lease or not?

1540
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:32,100
It does not.

1541
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:38,740
So, this repayment can be largely paid out of either the

1542
02:26:38,740 --> 02:26:41,980
at least savings or the money we earn from the building.

1543
02:26:42,020 --> 02:26:45,240
It can count some member for just for a sake of clarity and transparency.

1544
02:26:46,020 --> 02:26:51,460
There's other building operating expenses you noted, the utilities and some of the maintenance

1545
02:26:51,460 --> 02:27:02,300
and the management, but the total net operating costs plus the savings from our lease elimination

1546
02:27:02,300 --> 02:27:11,040
at the other building is that $350,000 that savings that does come to the city and that

1547
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:14,300
net operating savings helps to pay down our debt service.

1548
02:27:14,740 --> 02:27:14,780
All right.

1549
02:27:14,940 --> 02:27:16,340
Thank you.

1550
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:25,210
The other point I wanted to make about is that a lot has made about the cost of the building,

1551
02:27:29,820 --> 02:27:35,140
but municipalities typically hold these things for 50 years or more.

1552
02:27:35,140 --> 02:27:39,980
And when you start to do, you know, time, value of money and calculations, it was for a brand

1553
02:27:39,980 --> 02:27:40,980
you could probably figure out.

1554
02:27:41,060 --> 02:27:47,500
It's a little beyond me, but it makes that those investments a lot more reasonable.

1555
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:57,540
But then we get down to, so for me, when I analyze it, I analyze first, does it make financial

1556
02:27:57,540 --> 02:28:06,200
sense. And to me, the purchase price, the money money we're going to save from least payments

1557
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:11,380
that we're currently paying other people, the money that we're going to potentially earn

1558
02:28:11,380 --> 02:28:26,060
from rents and parking and whatever else is there to take advantage of makes that a good deal

1559
02:28:26,060 --> 02:28:26,380
for me.

1560
02:28:26,460 --> 02:28:26,920
It's a pencil.

1561
02:28:27,880 --> 02:28:29,320
It's a good financial deal.

1562
02:28:29,860 --> 02:28:32,060
Then the question becomes why should you buy it.

1563
02:28:32,060 --> 02:28:39,120
And then there's some other strategic, intrinsic issues that I think are real important.

1564
02:28:41,200 --> 02:28:49,720
And that is the location of this property being in the, I mean, that's the key one there.

1565
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:51,840
It's on a very critical corner in our downtown.

1566
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:53,440
It's across from the Superior Court.

1567
02:28:53,440 --> 02:28:56,220
It's a county corner from a city hall.

1568
02:28:58,360 --> 02:29:00,980
It's in a strategic excellent location.

1569
02:29:01,780 --> 02:29:05,460
It gives the city control down to that corner,

1570
02:29:06,340 --> 02:29:10,380
but it also gives us control 300 and some parking spaces,

1571
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:12,540
which we desperately need them downtown.

1572
02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:21,930
It gives us a little bit of flexibility for the city.

1573
02:29:23,890 --> 02:29:26,710
I don't think it's our intention to

1574
02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:32,810
take it all for us, but it gives us the ability to scale up and down as we have other needs.

1575
02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:37,930
This building we're in right now is getting pretty close to the end of this useful life.

1576
02:29:38,310 --> 02:29:47,790
At some point it's going to need to be remodeled or rebuilt or something and it would give us an opportunity to relocate

1577
02:29:47,790 --> 02:29:51,230
functions that we do here during that period of time.

1578
02:29:51,230 --> 02:29:55,390
something for future city councils to worry about,

1579
02:29:55,630 --> 02:29:59,290
but it'll be a resource that they can use at that time.

1580
02:30:00,110 --> 02:30:09,690
And the other thing I was encouraged by was that, in my research, I learned that other governmental and public entities

1581
02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:15,290
that have been purchasing property downtown, and these downtown building, rather than leasing them.

1582
02:30:15,530 --> 02:30:24,590
And that's a critical distinction. Is that businesses just being in the downtown is great, but are they leasing or are they owning these buildings?

1583
02:30:24,590 --> 02:30:31,590
and these government agencies, the current county subterranean schools, has 1675,

1584
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:37,310
Chester Avenue, 1200 trucks to an avenue, which is the old church, and the county

1585
02:30:37,310 --> 02:30:45,090
occurring in Cape K have 1318th Street. So that's encouraging to me when these agencies

1586
02:30:45,090 --> 02:30:53,290
are buying property downtown. It signals a faith in those neighborhoods.

1587
02:30:57,140 --> 02:31:06,920
So anyway, I'll get back to my point because I think it's a fair financial deal and it's a good overall purchase for the city.

1588
02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:07,920
Thank you.

1589
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:08,280
Thank you.

1590
02:31:18,880 --> 02:31:21,640
I'm a little confused here.

1591
02:31:21,820 --> 02:31:30,760
On page nine that you have here, it shows that

1592
02:31:34,960 --> 02:31:38,340
on page nine, can you explain to me what

1593
02:31:38,340 --> 02:31:45,220
In the world, leave savings from California Avenue's base, a million dollars.

1594
02:31:45,980 --> 02:31:52,600
That's a savings that we're achieving by not leasing the other space where the police department

1595
02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:54,980
has had office based on California Avenue.

1596
02:31:57,600 --> 02:32:04,340
Okay, so that you're seeing we're getting more money now.

1597
02:32:04,660 --> 02:32:08,440
We're not having that million dollar expense any longer.

1598
02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:10,520
But those folks have to go somewhere.

1599
02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:16,280
We're going to have an expense.

1600
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:18,340
I mean, that billings going to cost money.

1601
02:32:19,540 --> 02:32:24,460
If I may count somewhere, we're just to clarify that is not the training academy.

1602
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:28,760
I'm not a training academy.

1603
02:32:28,760 --> 02:32:37,260
I'm just trying to figure out if a million dollars in here is money a one-time deal.

1604
02:32:37,260 --> 02:32:46,020
We're not we're not going to get that every every 12 months. We're not going to get savings from from

1605
02:32:46,020 --> 02:33:03,540
California County space. So, Council Mayor, where the police department is leasing on an annual basis, numerous office spaces and an office building on California Avenue. So that is an annual expense that we're going to get that savings every year going forward.

1606
02:33:04,780 --> 02:33:07,460
But I thought you were stopping that.

1607
02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:08,020
Correct.

1608
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:15,520
By stopping that lease and moving them instead into this building, we've moved that million

1609
02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:24,600
dollars to those lease payments that are just gone each year and into the value of acquiring

1610
02:33:25,460 --> 02:33:31,880
this building, the Bank of America building, because those same dollars were paying into

1611
02:33:31,880 --> 02:33:36,400
the repayment of that loan essentially to acquire that building.

1612
02:33:37,220 --> 02:33:44,460
Okay, but the way this reads is, you know, it's projected net offering income is the minus

1613
02:33:44,460 --> 02:33:47,400
260,000, right?

1614
02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:48,120
Correct.

1615
02:33:49,340 --> 02:33:56,780
Then there's the savings of, so we don't have to pay, then lease any more, so it's made

1616
02:33:56,780 --> 02:33:57,920
dollars there.

1617
02:33:58,060 --> 02:33:58,400
Correct.

1618
02:33:58,620 --> 02:33:58,940
Okay.

1619
02:33:58,940 --> 02:34:04,640
and then it comes down. And then the next year, we're not going to have savings from that.

1620
02:34:04,940 --> 02:34:05,620
We will.

1621
02:34:09,170 --> 02:34:15,990
How will we? Because it's an annual payment to the other building. We'll have to pay

1622
02:34:15,990 --> 02:34:20,370
a million every year, every year, it's another million dollars to the other building.

1623
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:31,540
We'll make, okay, maybe I'm confused.

1624
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:35,980
We're buying a building and we already have a building.

1625
02:34:35,980 --> 02:34:39,920
We don't, we don't own the other building. We're just leasing it.

1626
02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:42,420
I know, and that's what's confusing me.

1627
02:34:42,880 --> 02:34:43,980
We're releasing it.

1628
02:34:45,180 --> 02:34:46,720
Boom, the lease is over.

1629
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:51,140
Now we're on our own. It's a million dollars.

1630
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:53,520
Okay? Okay.

1631
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:58,120
So we have that savings, but that doesn't continue on.

1632
02:34:58,240 --> 02:35:02,900
We don't get a million dollars for 12 years

1633
02:35:02,900 --> 02:35:05,660
Well, this tries to pay itself out.

1634
02:35:05,860 --> 02:35:07,440
I suppose if I could put it a different way,

1635
02:35:07,520 --> 02:35:10,400
Councilman, we're if we stayed at the other building,

1636
02:35:11,660 --> 02:35:12,960
we would pay a million dollars a year.

1637
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:22,460
One of them trying to say is, for one, the first year,

1638
02:35:22,660 --> 02:35:23,960
you're going to get a million dollars

1639
02:35:23,960 --> 02:35:25,960
because you're not paying that.

1640
02:35:25,960 --> 02:35:28,020
You're not paying that, oh, correct.

1641
02:35:28,600 --> 02:35:31,760
The next year, you're going to say that you're

1642
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:33,840
going to pay that, and you're not going to pay it again,

1643
02:35:34,060 --> 02:35:34,840
or you're going to pay it again.

1644
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:35,940
We're not going to pay it.

1645
02:35:35,940 --> 02:35:46,220
Okay, so we're not going to have we have a million dollars in here's income, we're not going to have that the next year.

1646
02:35:50,330 --> 02:35:57,530
I'm doing my best council member, but I would just reiterate that is an ongoing savings every year.

1647
02:36:07,340 --> 02:36:08,920
It's ongoing savings.

1648
02:36:13,840 --> 02:36:18,200
That doesn't make any sense. Does it make any sense whatsoever?

1649
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:25,540
We're going to pay this off in fan mail inbox. We're not going to we're not going to get that money a million dollars every year

1650
02:36:28,380 --> 02:36:36,900
So and then we're going to take that money and we're going to do it wherever we want to but it's not going to be a savings of of a million dollars every year

1651
02:36:37,960 --> 02:36:40,700
It's a one-shot deal one-year deal

1652
02:36:48,860 --> 02:36:54,340
again. I feel like I've answered this question best. I can it isn't an annual savings

1653
02:36:55,260 --> 02:37:05,220
Okay. Well, maybe in yours, but in in the real world, you get one million dollars, the next year, you don't get a million dollars.

1654
02:37:05,620 --> 02:37:11,240
You have to pay it. And the whole thing is just ridiculous.

1655
02:37:17,020 --> 02:37:17,640
That's an over-spit.

1656
02:37:20,140 --> 02:37:20,840
Thank you, Mayor.

1657
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:32,880
I think the City of Vegas field has been fiscally responsible over the years with various

1658
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:48,920
City Council's and I think that this purchase is very similar to what past City Council's have done are existing planning building department are in a building that we purchased.

1659
02:37:48,920 --> 02:37:58,520
that was already built. City Hall North is a building that we purchased that was already built and

1660
02:37:58,520 --> 02:38:03,980
it's been 20 some years since we bought that building. I know you weren't here, but do you know any

1661
02:38:03,980 --> 02:38:11,140
details on that? Mr. Helen has done some of that homework, believe it was purchased in 1993 for

1662
02:38:11,140 --> 02:38:12,020
$13 million?

1663
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:14,300
I thought it was early $2,000.

1664
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:15,300
It was okay.

1665
02:38:16,820 --> 02:38:17,540
How that compared?

1666
02:38:18,220 --> 02:38:23,900
I did some research so in 2005, it was purchased for $13 million.

1667
02:38:24,400 --> 02:38:25,460
So, 21 years ago.

1668
02:38:25,660 --> 02:38:27,560
21 years ago, it's half the size.

1669
02:38:27,940 --> 02:38:28,300
You're right.

1670
02:38:28,560 --> 02:38:30,500
And we paid $13 million.

1671
02:38:30,520 --> 02:38:30,860
Correct.

1672
02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:34,260
And so we're getting 21 years later.

1673
02:38:34,700 --> 02:38:35,980
We're getting twice the building.

1674
02:38:36,800 --> 02:38:38,120
For the same amount of money.

1675
02:38:38,120 --> 02:38:41,300
Greg. Seems like a good deal to me.

1676
02:38:43,420 --> 02:38:48,280
Ownership to me is always better than leasing. I mean leasing

1677
02:38:49,180 --> 02:38:57,320
as was stated, goes on forever. In 12 years from now, we would continue to pay that million,

1678
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:05,560
probably million, two million, three by then. And instead of paying that out as lease payments,

1679
02:39:06,300 --> 02:39:12,940
We now own the building and that May and 2 May and 3 can go to higher and more police.

1680
02:39:15,130 --> 02:39:21,530
So I think it's a great deal and I appreciate staff working on it and I'm in favour of it.

1681
02:39:21,790 --> 02:39:22,710
Thank you.

1682
02:39:22,790 --> 02:39:23,170
Thank you.

1683
02:39:23,330 --> 02:39:24,930
Thank you.

1684
02:39:25,470 --> 02:39:25,990
Thank you Mayor.

1685
02:39:26,690 --> 02:39:29,850
Thank you to staff for all the work that they've done on this item.

1686
02:39:29,850 --> 02:39:31,450
I think it's a great opportunity.

1687
02:39:32,510 --> 02:39:36,910
I just have a couple of comments but I would like to ask whoever was a part of the team.

1688
02:39:36,910 --> 02:39:45,470
who kind of did the walkthroughs and did the due diligence work, taking the tours, taking a look at

1689
02:39:45,470 --> 02:39:50,770
all of the deferred maintenance. If I could ask you to come to the mic, we'd love to learn

1690
02:39:50,770 --> 02:39:57,230
more about what that deferred maintenance investigation looked like, what were the findings.

1691
02:39:57,230 --> 02:40:09,760
looks like it's just me. So we actually received direction and closed session to have external

1692
02:40:09,760 --> 02:40:22,300
vendors come in and look at all of everything. And we did, we used several vendors to look

1693
02:40:22,300 --> 02:40:32,280
elevators, roof windows, all of our systems, plumbing, electrical. I believe we had 11 different

1694
02:40:32,280 --> 02:40:39,980
vendors come through and look through the building between end of March all the way up until July.

1695
02:40:42,460 --> 02:40:48,300
There were some concerns that we saw coming through the building because as was stated, it's a

1696
02:40:48,300 --> 02:40:49,680
50 year old building, right?

1697
02:40:50,200 --> 02:40:54,140
So there's going to be some things that do need to be fixed,

1698
02:40:54,340 --> 02:40:57,580
but nothing that wasn't, that was a red flag

1699
02:40:57,580 --> 02:40:59,720
as City Manager clerks had.

1700
02:40:59,900 --> 02:41:03,240
Nothing that couldn't be fixed over the next five years,

1701
02:41:03,360 --> 02:41:07,900
10 years that we could schedule in regular CIPs over time.

1702
02:41:09,420 --> 02:41:15,620
So some of the things that we said, hey, these are really big fixes.

1703
02:41:15,620 --> 02:41:23,660
we did go back to the seller during that period of time between July and coming back to

1704
02:41:23,660 --> 02:41:30,000
Council. And we had some more negotiations to say, hey, these are some very large items.

1705
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:35,800
We would like you to come down on price because those are going to be heavy costs for us

1706
02:41:35,800 --> 02:41:41,420
that we need to consider over the next five years, 10 years. And so we did get a deduct and

1707
02:41:41,420 --> 02:41:44,440
we showed that in the presentation today.

1708
02:41:45,700 --> 02:41:50,440
So, partly we feel that those ongoing maintenance things

1709
02:41:50,440 --> 02:41:53,600
we can solve over the next five years.

1710
02:41:54,200 --> 02:41:56,700
We have an excellent property manager.

1711
02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:02,160
So, the property manager is Mel Aconsons, MD Aconsons Group.

1712
02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:06,120
They have been property manager there for, I don't know,

1713
02:42:06,220 --> 02:42:10,580
as long as anyone can remember, they know that building really well

1714
02:42:10,580 --> 02:42:13,580
and we've already started to work with them

1715
02:42:13,580 --> 02:42:16,060
just try to address some of the immediate things

1716
02:42:16,060 --> 02:42:18,360
that we can get done before we move in.

1717
02:42:20,520 --> 02:42:21,500
So, I'll put an answer to your question.

1718
02:42:21,780 --> 02:42:25,740
I was just at two quick items as Mr. Helen pointed out,

1719
02:42:25,920 --> 02:42:28,020
it's been professionally managed over the years,

1720
02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:30,120
and so they've had a robust maintenance schedule.

1721
02:42:30,280 --> 02:42:32,920
They've kept up on the regular maintenance,

1722
02:42:33,180 --> 02:42:35,600
they have about a half a million dollars a year

1723
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:38,940
in just maintenance costs that's typically

1724
02:42:40,360 --> 02:42:45,900
We expanded, you know, keeping up on things, and when we talk about things that, you know,

1725
02:42:46,060 --> 02:42:48,360
repairs we know will need to happen in the next five to ten years.

1726
02:42:48,880 --> 02:42:51,260
There aren't deferred things that have fallen behind.

1727
02:42:51,780 --> 02:42:53,640
They're just the useful life of the elevators.

1728
02:42:53,660 --> 02:42:57,320
We know is going to be, you know, up at a certain point.

1729
02:42:57,380 --> 02:43:00,300
But that's the price of owning a building as you're going to have to,

1730
02:43:00,300 --> 02:43:03,540
every once in a while, replace it roof, every once in a while, replace it in elevator.

1731
02:43:03,540 --> 02:43:07,640
And nothing is beyond its regular life cycle.

1732
02:43:07,640 --> 02:43:08,980
We just know in the next five to 10,

1733
02:43:09,060 --> 02:43:10,720
we're going to have some of those replacements to make.

1734
02:43:11,980 --> 02:43:15,340
And I'll just point out that it was just last summer

1735
02:43:15,340 --> 02:43:18,740
that we had to replace several elevators in City,

1736
02:43:18,740 --> 02:43:22,820
all north as a standard practice for owning any asset

1737
02:43:22,820 --> 02:43:23,380
or building.

1738
02:43:24,260 --> 02:43:25,820
So I appreciate that.

1739
02:43:25,820 --> 02:43:27,220
I know that there was some out in the community

1740
02:43:27,220 --> 02:43:30,860
that had questions about due diligence and the deferred maintenance.

1741
02:43:30,860 --> 02:43:35,780
So I appreciate you stepping in, Gary, to share that with us.

1742
02:43:36,880 --> 02:43:48,260
I would just like to make a comment that, you know, we have a responsibility to a certain degree to make sure that we are

1743
02:43:48,840 --> 02:43:55,740
ensuring that these properties, especially these larger buildings do not lay vacant for very long.

1744
02:43:56,860 --> 02:44:23,140
In 2009, I'm reminded that it was a previous council that stepped up when the Padre Hotel fell short by almost $2 million during their construction and renovation project, a multi-million dollar project, the tapped out all other financing mechanisms, and they had nobody to look to other than the city of Bakerstil.

1745
02:44:23,140 --> 02:44:34,700
And the city of Bakersfield in the council at that time stepped up and borrowed money from the federal government to actually make good on that shortfall for the property owner.

1746
02:44:35,380 --> 02:44:39,260
And so I shared that because this is not something new to this council.

1747
02:44:39,580 --> 02:44:42,840
This is not something new to this administration for the city of Bakersfield.

1748
02:44:42,880 --> 02:44:50,580
This is something that, you know, previous councils have done to get creative to innovate and to continue to fight for downtown Bakersfield.

1749
02:44:50,580 --> 02:44:55,560
So, with that, I'm happy to join my colleagues in supporting this item tonight.

1750
02:44:56,580 --> 02:44:56,860
Thank you.

1751
02:44:56,940 --> 02:44:59,980
I don't see any additional requests to speak.

1752
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,100
So you have a motion by Council Member Gonzalez to support staff's recommendation. Please catch your votes.

1753
02:45:14,660 --> 02:45:19,920
The motion is approved with Council Members Weir and Bashir Tashvoting No and Vice-Mercor absent.

1754
02:45:20,740 --> 02:45:22,700
Thank you. Next item, please.

1755
02:45:24,460 --> 02:45:36,760
New Business Item 11A, contingency funds for clean city special project, $500,000 for clean up of a major illegal dumping site, consisting of 50 acres located in the southeast,

1756
02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:42,600
South of Brook Street, East of Hale Street, and adjacent to East Plans Avenue.

1757
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:43,820
Mr. Clark.

1758
02:45:44,260 --> 02:45:44,600
Thank you, Mayor.

1759
02:45:44,660 --> 02:45:44,960
Council.

1760
02:45:45,040 --> 02:45:47,200
Mr. Gary Howell and we'll present this item.

1761
02:45:49,450 --> 02:45:49,690
All right.

1762
02:45:51,150 --> 02:45:55,050
So Council members all talk briefly about this.

1763
02:45:55,730 --> 02:46:00,330
There are several very large chronic nuisance properties in the city.

1764
02:46:00,790 --> 02:46:06,790
We have a clean city's team that focuses on many of those chronic nuisance properties.

1765
02:46:06,790 --> 02:46:13,810
basically sees not only focuses on properties that are of major issue, but also, you know, in

1766
02:46:13,810 --> 02:46:21,110
our right way in other areas, but this has been one that they are codenforcement or rapid

1767
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:30,070
response. All of the teams have been focusing on over the last several years. In fact, today

1768
02:46:30,070 --> 02:46:36,590
I don't know the exact number, but I know we've had multiple rounds of cleanup from our codenforcement

1769
02:46:36,590 --> 02:46:43,630
team of this site, and as you will see through the presentation, it's just bandades over a

1770
02:46:43,630 --> 02:46:50,730
whole. They're making small dents in trying to do some cleanup here, but the scale and the

1771
02:46:50,730 --> 02:46:55,870
condition of the site is getting to a point where it's becoming a real help and safety risk.

1772
02:46:56,070 --> 02:47:05,170
So that's what we're before you tonight. The other thing I want to add is their images you're

1773
02:47:05,170 --> 02:47:08,450
are because of our excellent drones.

1774
02:47:09,010 --> 02:47:11,830
There's been some talk about cameras and drones.

1775
02:47:12,210 --> 02:47:14,550
I mean, I'm a believer in technology, so I believe,

1776
02:47:14,650 --> 02:47:16,270
but let's use it if we have it.

1777
02:47:16,270 --> 02:47:18,810
Our water department has some incredible drones

1778
02:47:18,810 --> 02:47:23,250
because they need them to monitor and manage our water facilities.

1779
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:26,430
So they've helped us out taking some still shots

1780
02:47:26,430 --> 02:47:29,790
of some of the most difficult areas.

1781
02:47:30,330 --> 02:47:33,790
I will say the majority of this debris

1782
02:47:33,790 --> 02:47:41,290
is probably construction debris, is what I would call it, whether it's, I don't think we'd

1783
02:47:41,290 --> 02:47:46,930
have, we have too much wood debris, there was a comment about, there's a lot of wood debris

1784
02:47:46,930 --> 02:47:54,090
out there, there's some wood debris out there, but mostly construction. You'll see chunks,

1785
02:47:54,330 --> 02:48:01,450
massive chunks of asphalt, massive chunks of concrete, so instead of going to the dump,

1786
02:48:01,450 --> 02:48:05,610
They use the Si, you'll see palettes, you'll see drywall,

1787
02:48:05,650 --> 02:48:09,250
you'll see a boat, you'll see abandoned cars,

1788
02:48:09,290 --> 02:48:11,250
you'll see abandoned trailers.

1789
02:48:12,310 --> 02:48:17,230
So it's, again, one of our, one of our largest efforts.

1790
02:48:17,430 --> 02:48:22,530
And it's been difficult for the private property to defend it.

1791
02:48:22,530 --> 02:48:26,830
And we'll talk a little bit more about our work with the private property owner.

1792
02:48:26,830 --> 02:48:32,070
And he's here tonight, the representatives are here tonight as well.

1793
02:48:32,610 --> 02:48:38,070
I think another major issue on this site is there are a large number of people living there.

1794
02:48:38,450 --> 02:48:42,970
This is where they call home some of these drone images.

1795
02:48:43,330 --> 02:48:48,630
You'll see where they've created these tents and shanties and villages,

1796
02:48:49,730 --> 02:48:56,670
which that's a very unsafe place to call your place of home there.

1797
02:48:56,670 --> 02:49:01,270
So part of this cleanup is a coordinated effort

1798
02:49:01,270 --> 02:49:04,950
with making sure that homeless resources are brought out there.

1799
02:49:05,070 --> 02:49:09,710
So these people can be moved off on the appropriate way.

1800
02:49:14,680 --> 02:49:16,440
Just a little bit on clean cities.

1801
02:49:16,960 --> 02:49:22,220
There's probably seven departments that are hands-on in this effort.

1802
02:49:22,720 --> 02:49:27,100
So I think it's probably the largest multi-department effort

1803
02:49:27,100 --> 02:49:28,700
that we've got in the city.

1804
02:49:28,700 --> 02:49:39,340
I'm proud of those teams and we did a larger presentation to council previously on what's going on there, but that image to the right is

1805
02:49:39,340 --> 02:49:54,480
is really probably the most inhabited part of that area and it's right in the heart of some of the parcels and we'll zoom out to some of the maps, but these teams work very well together.

1806
02:49:54,480 --> 02:50:01,420
I will say the coordination is excellent, impact team or BPD team is working well with rapid

1807
02:50:01,420 --> 02:50:02,060
response.

1808
02:50:02,220 --> 02:50:07,480
They have co-response teams that work hand in hand and solid waste is right there with

1809
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:07,640
them.

1810
02:50:07,880 --> 02:50:15,400
Again, we've got a river, water department that helps us park rangers or helping.

1811
02:50:15,460 --> 02:50:21,340
And then we've got our outside partners with other vendors that come and help on private

1812
02:50:21,340 --> 02:50:21,880
jobs.

1813
02:50:21,880 --> 02:50:30,940
and then obviously, uh, property owners. So this is the effort that we're asking to undertake

1814
02:50:30,940 --> 02:50:36,640
with some of these funds that we're asking to come out of contingencies. Obviously, we need

1815
02:50:36,640 --> 02:50:43,260
to remove the debris and help remove the homeless. We need to make sure that we're continuing

1816
02:50:43,260 --> 02:50:50,400
to take appropriate steps and appropriate measures. Obviously, this is going to happen over time.

1817
02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:55,580
this is not going to happen tomorrow. We're not going to run out there and do this if approved,

1818
02:50:56,220 --> 02:51:01,720
but it'll take some time to tease some of this stuff up. And then lastly,

1819
02:51:03,040 --> 02:51:07,920
the biggest problem is people can just drive in here and we'll I'll show you some of the

1820
02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:12,840
the sections of the maps where this is why construction debris is on this site, it's because

1821
02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:18,720
people just drive their trucks in and unload here. And so we've got to pinch those off and put

1822
02:51:18,720 --> 02:51:25,580
areas there in some of these locations, and we've got kind of a plan and a map that outlines.

1823
02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:33,760
So this is that, some of those maps, so to share a little bit of where this is.

1824
02:51:33,800 --> 02:51:39,420
So this is, we're calling it our East Plan site because it's basically as far east as you can go on plans,

1825
02:51:39,420 --> 02:51:43,320
before we get to the treatment plant, too.

1826
02:51:43,940 --> 02:51:48,320
It's right next to Hale, Hill Street, and Brook Street.

1827
02:51:48,620 --> 02:51:52,840
It's just east of Cottonwood or South MLK.

1828
02:51:53,740 --> 02:51:58,080
And some of these barriers that we've been able to track down

1829
02:51:58,080 --> 02:52:01,760
is actually through our public worship apartment

1830
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:06,380
as then a killer job of finding about 100 sticks of K-Rail,

1831
02:52:06,560 --> 02:52:08,000
which is about 2,000 feet.

1832
02:52:08,540 --> 02:52:13,700
We would need to procure that with some of this money that we're asking to be set aside.

1833
02:52:14,460 --> 02:52:20,000
We've worked with the property owner and they have agreed to put in some gates.

1834
02:52:20,940 --> 02:52:24,380
At some of these difficult points, there's already some berms there.

1835
02:52:24,560 --> 02:52:29,380
So if you're saying, why don't we just put in the whole thing, you know, with electrified fence and K rail.

1836
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:34,080
We just don't have that much money, but some of the berms provide a barrier.

1837
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:41,700
There, the other site that's just south of this isn't really not saying this is an area

1838
02:52:41,700 --> 02:52:47,840
that needs to be cleaned up, but it's an access, almost like a highway to get to this

1839
02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:48,800
dumping site.

1840
02:52:48,980 --> 02:52:55,140
And so this is a little further south, it's south of Brook, white lane, you can see it goes

1841
02:52:55,140 --> 02:52:57,800
dead ends right into the middle of this site.

1842
02:52:57,800 --> 02:53:01,680
But we've identified K-ray on barriers and gates.

1843
02:53:02,440 --> 02:53:06,100
Part of having gates there, you may be asking that question,

1844
02:53:06,560 --> 02:53:10,460
because fire does need to get into this site,

1845
02:53:10,680 --> 02:53:12,760
and so they'll have noxboxes on it.

1846
02:53:13,380 --> 02:53:16,320
So fires only one can access it if they need to put out fires

1847
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:17,980
or in the middle of the site.

1848
02:53:18,500 --> 02:53:20,520
They'll be able to access it.

1849
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:24,500
Again, fire was a part of this team to help us identify

1850
02:53:24,500 --> 02:53:26,500
appropriate locations.

1851
02:53:27,760 --> 02:53:30,940
So, this is the funding and the plan.

1852
02:53:31,740 --> 02:53:36,860
We're asking for $500,000 of CAP contingency funds

1853
02:53:37,760 --> 02:53:42,560
to make a really big dent in this health and safety area.

1854
02:53:42,640 --> 02:53:46,720
This is a referral from Council Member Arias to set aside

1855
02:53:46,720 --> 02:53:48,780
some money and contingency funds.

1856
02:53:49,960 --> 02:53:52,600
And really to partner with the property owner.

1857
02:53:53,380 --> 02:53:59,640
The key point, as part of this, is whatever resources we're spending, we are going to

1858
02:53:59,640 --> 02:54:00,600
lean the property owner.

1859
02:54:01,160 --> 02:54:07,120
We've told property owner this, this is part of what we do, is ultimately if there's

1860
02:54:07,120 --> 02:54:10,420
a transaction in a cell, those lanes are paid off.

1861
02:54:10,760 --> 02:54:14,880
So we do recuper money when there's a transaction that's a part of this.

1862
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:25,900
So there's one piece of property that's an outside area owner and then the rest of the property is owned by Mr. Serra.

1863
02:54:27,460 --> 02:54:36,500
So some of these lanes, you know, if transacted on, could be repaid, which is a good thing for us to recoup some of this investment.

1864
02:54:37,300 --> 02:54:47,900
Obviously, there needs to be ongoing enforcement after this and so that again is a part of the plan for this major site.

1865
02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:50,020
We have to answer any questions.

1866
02:54:50,500 --> 02:54:51,260
Thank you, Mr. Hallan.

1867
02:54:51,320 --> 02:54:52,920
Mr. Clerk, do you have any further comments?

1868
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:53,780
Thank you, Mayor.

1869
02:54:53,880 --> 02:54:54,660
I do not.

1870
02:54:54,920 --> 02:54:55,340
Thank you.

1871
02:54:56,160 --> 02:54:57,540
Madam City Clerk for the record.

1872
02:54:57,800 --> 02:54:58,540
Council member.

1873
02:54:59,180 --> 02:55:00,520
Weir has left.

1874
02:55:00,540 --> 02:55:01,120
He left it.

1875
02:55:01,540 --> 02:55:01,600
Eight.

1876
02:55:02,060 --> 02:55:02,620
P.M.

1877
02:55:03,180 --> 02:55:03,500
Council member.

1878
02:55:04,880 --> 02:55:05,920
Thank you, Mayor.

1879
02:55:07,060 --> 02:55:11,460
Thank you, Gary, for the presentation and thanks for what we call Gary our quarterback or

1880
02:55:11,460 --> 02:55:15,760
our head coach for all of the major master planning and development that's happening

1881
02:55:15,760 --> 02:55:21,960
out in MLK Boulevard and you've just been amazing with every punch that is thrown

1882
02:55:21,960 --> 02:55:22,840
our way.

1883
02:55:23,420 --> 02:55:27,420
Gary's Gary's ready for it, so definitely appreciate you, Gary.

1884
02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:35,240
Last Tuesday, I was out at this property, went there around 7.30.

1885
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:41,820
Noris, who was here earlier today, made comment about some other issues that were having in the neighborhood.

1886
02:55:42,600 --> 02:55:47,820
Walked it with me and actually organized a good group of about 12 different residents.

1887
02:55:49,300 --> 02:55:54,440
And imagine this, you walk behind your property into what should be your backyard.

1888
02:55:54,440 --> 02:56:00,760
And you've got mountains of debris, concrete, just spread everywhere.

1889
02:56:01,440 --> 02:56:03,800
You've got homeless encampments all around.

1890
02:56:05,080 --> 02:56:10,760
In fact, there was about six or so dogs that were trying to chase this off the property.

1891
02:56:11,500 --> 02:56:18,280
And as we walked deeper into this dump, essentially dump site,

1892
02:56:18,940 --> 02:56:22,940
we were actually getting yelled at by some of the individuals who were homeless.

1893
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:27,840
and requesting that we get off of their property.

1894
02:56:29,800 --> 02:56:31,420
Can you imagine that?

1895
02:56:31,620 --> 02:56:37,740
As a property owner, if your house is just a rocks throw away from where you're at?

1896
02:56:38,580 --> 02:56:39,440
That was the reality.

1897
02:56:40,120 --> 02:56:43,840
For so many of these individuals later that evening,

1898
02:56:44,200 --> 02:56:48,620
there was actually a vehicle that drove up right beside us,

1899
02:56:48,620 --> 02:56:54,300
They waived right past us, and I thought that they were going to pull into their backyard.

1900
02:56:54,920 --> 02:56:57,200
Instead, they pulled into one of the homeless and came in.

1901
02:56:57,460 --> 02:57:03,620
So there are vehicles in use, there are vehicles that are out of use that have been dumped on this site.

1902
02:57:04,680 --> 02:57:05,460
It's out of control.

1903
02:57:06,360 --> 02:57:12,040
And there are certainly other hotspots in Ward 1 and in Southeast Bakersfield.

1904
02:57:12,720 --> 02:57:14,580
Nothing quite like this.

1905
02:57:14,580 --> 02:57:25,480
And so I would just ask that this Council will take this into serious consideration that this is not just an investment on this particular property,

1906
02:57:25,780 --> 02:57:35,840
but actually I see this as an opportunity for us to procure some of the materials and equipment that we're going to be able to need to prevent future dumping,

1907
02:57:35,840 --> 02:57:38,100
because we know that as soon as we block off,

1908
02:57:38,500 --> 02:57:42,720
this particular 40 acres, folks are gonna go somewhere else.

1909
02:57:43,260 --> 02:57:45,260
And so I hope that we have our team

1910
02:57:45,260 --> 02:57:47,200
as ready as soon as we bait this,

1911
02:57:47,300 --> 02:57:51,380
we're gonna have to prepare for where folks are going

1912
02:57:51,380 --> 02:57:53,400
to go next in order to dump.

1913
02:57:53,600 --> 02:57:58,000
I might also add that also towards the end of last Tuesday

1914
02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:02,000
as we were getting ready to finish the conversation,

1915
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:10,200
there was a clearly a company vehicle who had just gotten done dumping just a few moments

1916
02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:17,000
before we were able to actually see them do get caught in the act. So it's an ongoing problem.

1917
02:58:18,080 --> 02:58:23,180
I think that there are certainly some things that we could do better on the enforcement side

1918
02:58:23,180 --> 02:58:30,900
of the problem. I'm grateful to Chief Stratton who we had a great conversation about some of the ways

1919
02:58:30,900 --> 02:58:33,920
that we can tackle from an enforcement standpoint,

1920
02:58:34,840 --> 02:58:38,820
but certainly in order to move projects forward

1921
02:58:38,820 --> 02:58:42,340
and to see growth and not these bakers feel

1922
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:45,900
that this is going to be one of the essential steps

1923
02:58:45,900 --> 02:58:47,220
in order to make that happen.

1924
02:58:48,120 --> 02:58:50,260
So with that, I would like to move approval

1925
02:58:50,260 --> 02:58:53,000
of this item and looking forward to any questions

1926
02:58:53,000 --> 02:58:53,980
or comments from my colleague.

1927
02:58:54,780 --> 02:58:54,820
Thank you.

1928
02:58:54,820 --> 02:58:55,020
Thank you.

1929
02:58:55,420 --> 02:58:58,460
Thank you.

1930
02:59:03,420 --> 02:59:08,640
City property, or is this owned by a private person slash company?

1931
02:59:09,280 --> 02:59:10,780
It is private property.

1932
02:59:11,520 --> 02:59:16,820
And why is the city spending the rest of the taxpayer money to help one person and his property?

1933
02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:19,940
Council member, I think that's a good question.

1934
02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:26,760
Typically, when we have large abatements like this that pose a public health and safety risk,

1935
02:59:26,760 --> 02:59:29,260
will do code enforcement action,

1936
02:59:29,600 --> 02:59:33,320
debate the property, and then assess the costs

1937
02:59:33,320 --> 02:59:35,860
to that property that we're tax payer costs

1938
02:59:35,860 --> 02:59:36,780
to later be recovered.

1939
02:59:37,960 --> 02:59:40,740
So I have 10 acres down my Cal State LA,

1940
02:59:40,740 --> 02:59:41,700
just vacant land.

1941
02:59:41,920 --> 02:59:44,360
As soon as the grass gets over like a certain height,

1942
02:59:44,360 --> 02:59:46,820
I get a letter in the mail threatening thousands of dollars

1943
02:59:46,820 --> 02:59:47,700
that they're gonna cut,

1944
02:59:47,820 --> 02:59:49,500
put a lean on my property and take my property away.

1945
02:59:50,540 --> 02:59:53,880
If I just think of all the mom and pops that are closing doors,

1946
02:59:53,960 --> 02:59:55,920
just got notice of a grocery store closed into my ward,

1947
02:59:55,920 --> 02:59:59,980
because of this I don't understand why we're spending we're going to spend a half a million dollars a clean

1948
03:00:01,520 --> 03:00:29,900
With all the respect, I mean, if you buy a piece of property, you should take care of it. I would hate to call the city if someone's dog group to my front yard and made the city come pick it up. Am I missing something? Was this, was this, what are we doing? Why are we on the hook for this? I don't understand. Again, council member, three different thoughts. One, this is at the council discretion, whether or not to allocate additional dollars to go and.

1949
03:00:30,560 --> 03:00:32,020
to pursue this abatement.

1950
03:00:32,160 --> 03:00:35,760
We don't have the money in our budget to do an abatement

1951
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:39,020
of this size proactively to then assess it against the property.

1952
03:00:40,880 --> 03:00:42,840
And so this would front load that,

1953
03:00:42,860 --> 03:00:44,960
but that's going to subject to the purview of the council.

1954
03:00:45,700 --> 03:00:50,400
Number two, we have a two to some of your points.

1955
03:00:51,020 --> 03:00:54,900
We've done much of the same things you mentioned.

1956
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:55,680
We've sent letters.

1957
03:00:55,740 --> 03:00:59,120
We've done code enforcement, actions on this property.

1958
03:00:59,120 --> 03:01:06,940
But, at a certain point, there is a public good need to do some of these large

1959
03:01:06,940 --> 03:01:10,240
statements to ensure that these type of conditions don't continue.

1960
03:01:11,120 --> 03:01:15,020
But, and I've sort of already mentioned it, but lastly, ultimately, it is the

1961
03:01:15,020 --> 03:01:21,600
property owners' responsibility, we're stepping in for the public good to make that happen

1962
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:22,540
more quickly.

1963
03:01:23,320 --> 03:01:24,780
And, again, try to recover those costs later.

1964
03:01:25,360 --> 03:01:30,700
So, this is 100% the owners responsibility to do, that is correct.

1965
03:01:30,880 --> 03:01:36,940
Might I just add, I think, there is an enforcement aspect that I think that is appropriate

1966
03:01:36,940 --> 03:01:42,220
for us to aid in and assist in, but it is the property under responsibility.

1967
03:01:43,860 --> 03:01:48,280
I mean, I definitely feel because, you know, we deal with, I mean, they go out, and if they arrest

1968
03:01:48,280 --> 03:01:51,200
every homeless person there, they're going to be in and out of Loretto the same day,

1969
03:01:51,200 --> 03:01:52,800
and we're going to be dealing with the same problem.

1970
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:59,440
But that's despite that's besides the point because every other business owner that gets terrorized by these people that we seem to not be able to deal with

1971
03:01:59,880 --> 03:02:02,040
Because we don't have the money to deal with them.

1972
03:02:02,260 --> 03:02:07,960
They have to pay to fix their businesses. That lady who got her business window shot out probably had to pay for her window to be repaired?

1973
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:11,320
This this this that's such a dangerous

1974
03:02:13,200 --> 03:02:21,460
Presidents as a council for the rest of the city. I mean, that's this scares me. I mean, I could only imagine what would come down the tube when any other business

1975
03:02:21,460 --> 03:02:27,020
I mean, I spent $360,000 a year on private security to deal with this kind of stuff.

1976
03:02:33,160 --> 03:02:37,240
I have nothing else to say, I mean, I'm just, I'm kind of shocked.

1977
03:02:46,210 --> 03:02:47,010
Councilmember Smith.

1978
03:02:49,300 --> 03:02:49,760
Thank you, Mayor.

1979
03:02:51,400 --> 03:02:54,220
So I want to explore the lean idea a little bit.

1980
03:02:55,620 --> 03:02:59,140
So you said there will be a lean on the property.

1981
03:03:01,480 --> 03:03:04,100
This burns can probably speak to it.

1982
03:03:04,520 --> 03:03:08,800
Code enforcement on a regular basis brings their

1983
03:03:09,400 --> 03:03:11,720
leans to council and I think one thing.

1984
03:03:11,720 --> 03:03:12,440
That's what I was going to say.

1985
03:03:12,680 --> 03:03:14,620
Yeah, my every time we've got them 40.

1986
03:03:14,740 --> 03:03:15,100
That's right.

1987
03:03:15,700 --> 03:03:16,180
That's right.

1988
03:03:16,820 --> 03:03:17,060
That's right.

1989
03:03:17,420 --> 03:03:18,340
This would be counseling.

1990
03:03:18,580 --> 03:03:20,820
So it's very similar situation.

1991
03:03:21,240 --> 03:03:22,160
We do it all the time.

1992
03:03:22,380 --> 03:03:25,460
We go out and we clean up property and we put a lean on.

1993
03:03:25,680 --> 03:03:26,420
That's correct.

1994
03:03:27,400 --> 03:03:30,780
But I mean, this obviously is much more substantial.

1995
03:03:31,500 --> 03:03:57,780
So, this is future development property. Yes. And so if they come in with a final map, I mean, I'm trying to visualize how this lean is paid back is it as you sell a house, as you record maps, is it all one shot, but how do we really visualize how it's getting paid off.

1996
03:04:04,310 --> 03:04:11,910
Councilman Smith, it, the leans get placed on the tax roll, how it would roll to some

1997
03:04:11,910 --> 03:04:14,770
subdivision. I'm not sure how that would play out.

1998
03:04:17,820 --> 03:04:19,600
This is kind of a typical process

1999
03:04:19,600 --> 03:04:25,160
of a good enforcement case. If you think about like our demo on just traveling, same thing,

2000
03:04:25,360 --> 03:04:34,900
very, very sizable way exceeds our budget funds to do an action. So, I guess I see this

2001
03:04:35,960 --> 03:04:44,220
similar to to others, large cleanups that we have, not exactly sure how a track map would

2002
03:04:44,220 --> 03:04:52,520
impact funding or if that would, it had to have a title person how that would work out.

2003
03:04:52,560 --> 03:04:57,800
Well I mean do we, the question is, do we expect it to be paid back all the once or as

2004
03:04:57,800 --> 03:05:07,000
because it's parceled out, we typically, our leans are not payback all at once, and often

2005
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:12,880
they're part of a payback pool that just gets, you know, that comes in in smaller increments

2006
03:05:12,880 --> 03:05:13,420
over time.

2007
03:05:13,720 --> 03:05:18,400
Well, I mean, typically it's, yeah, random lots here, they're everywhere, but if this

2008
03:05:18,400 --> 03:05:26,760
is one, so then, and we food stop, as it gets subdivided, how are we going to work through

2009
03:05:26,760 --> 03:05:31,520
that. But the point is, is it will get paid back?

2010
03:05:34,470 --> 03:05:37,690
It's developed and it's got a lot better

2011
03:05:37,690 --> 03:05:44,670
chance of being developed if it's cleaned up. The access you mentioned there's berms, I mean

2012
03:05:44,670 --> 03:05:50,270
it looks like from the picture. Yeah, I could just drive my dump truck on plans road, but

2013
03:05:50,270 --> 03:05:58,250
there is, I didn't see a picture. Yeah, we didn't show pictures. So there are berms all along

2014
03:05:58,250 --> 03:06:00,130
those other access?

2015
03:06:00,970 --> 03:06:04,710
Yes, so you, I think there's significant

2016
03:06:04,710 --> 03:06:08,010
burns on the very east side.

2017
03:06:08,170 --> 03:06:09,790
You can see that there's that road.

2018
03:06:10,250 --> 03:06:13,610
So adjacent, if we zoomed out a little bit,

2019
03:06:13,750 --> 03:06:16,590
you'll see that we have our farm, one of our farm.

2020
03:06:16,610 --> 03:06:20,290
Right to the east, so you see that road,

2021
03:06:20,410 --> 03:06:23,210
there's a berm there that's on that side.

2022
03:06:23,290 --> 03:06:24,950
And then on plans, there's also a berm.

2023
03:06:24,950 --> 03:06:35,500
Okay, so the K-Rail is so that all-long plans is difficult to access because of the burn.

2024
03:06:35,940 --> 03:06:39,500
Yeah, just the roads that go through that we need to.

2025
03:06:39,900 --> 03:06:45,820
The section that's in that northwest corner is where people are entering now.

2026
03:06:46,020 --> 03:06:54,800
You can drive along the very western edge down and then loop down or you can just get in immediately

2027
03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:57,220
and then head over on the east side.

2028
03:07:00,160 --> 03:07:02,960
So, is there existing signage, I mean,

2029
03:07:05,220 --> 03:07:08,320
that is part of, because what's going to be added to it?

2030
03:07:08,360 --> 03:07:09,820
It is part of its education.

2031
03:07:10,560 --> 03:07:12,520
If it looks like a dump, it must be a dump,

2032
03:07:12,780 --> 03:07:14,380
and I think I could take my stuff there.

2033
03:07:14,460 --> 03:07:18,720
You know, if there's no signage saying,

2034
03:07:19,160 --> 03:07:21,940
the real dump is at this other location.

2035
03:07:22,800 --> 03:07:27,640
We can certainly add that to the project that's easy to post signs.

2036
03:07:28,120 --> 03:07:32,860
We did just a few weeks ago got the no trespassing.

2037
03:07:33,640 --> 03:07:38,640
And so we'll be installing those no trespassing signs with this project as well.

2038
03:07:41,230 --> 03:07:42,850
I think it's a good investment.

2039
03:07:43,010 --> 03:07:49,150
We're going to get paid back and we clean up the neighborhood and move it forward.

2040
03:07:49,150 --> 03:07:52,430
And just like we do, all the other property

2041
03:07:52,430 --> 03:07:54,810
events that we see is just a different scale.

2042
03:07:55,370 --> 03:07:56,810
So good work.

2043
03:07:56,970 --> 03:07:57,810
Thank you.

2044
03:07:57,970 --> 03:08:01,590
Thank you, Council Member Smith, and City Clerk,

2045
03:08:01,590 --> 03:08:04,430
Council Member, where has returned, and he returned it

2046
03:08:04,430 --> 03:08:05,210
809.

2047
03:08:06,110 --> 03:08:06,970
Council Member Gonzalez.

2048
03:08:08,170 --> 03:08:08,510
Thank you, Mayor.

2049
03:08:09,870 --> 03:08:11,670
OK, so I appreciate in the presentation.

2050
03:08:11,930 --> 03:08:14,010
You said that cleanup alone will not solve the problem,

2051
03:08:14,090 --> 03:08:17,310
because that had been on my mind for a few days now.

2052
03:08:17,310 --> 03:08:22,370
The last thing I want us to do is try to bait the property only to see this problem continue and

2053
03:08:23,530 --> 03:08:26,970
Have us, you know, back here again trying to resolve this issue.

2054
03:08:27,590 --> 03:08:33,550
I just need to clarify. I thought I heard there's two properties that are problematic or

2055
03:08:35,970 --> 03:08:43,810
Between this map and so there's actually five parcels that are in between these two maps.

2056
03:08:43,810 --> 03:08:47,290
So there's two parcels on this map.

2057
03:08:47,790 --> 03:08:51,690
There's the northern parcel that is adjacent to East Plans.

2058
03:08:52,330 --> 03:08:55,750
And then if Brook kept going, you'd see that there's

2059
03:08:55,750 --> 03:08:58,770
that parcel that's just above Brook.

2060
03:08:58,970 --> 03:09:04,150
And then as we go to this, so this is just south of that.

2061
03:09:04,610 --> 03:09:09,370
Brook Street, so between Brook and White and between White and

2062
03:09:09,370 --> 03:09:11,010
it's the end of that map.

2063
03:09:11,010 --> 03:09:21,570
Those are there are three more process in that section there. Okay, so with all those five parcels. How many unique different property owners are there?

2064
03:09:21,810 --> 03:09:38,210
I believe there's two owners. Yeah, two unique owners. Okay, and and one owner has been responsive or have they both been responsive one owner is here tonight at this meeting and a one owner is been very difficult to engage with.

2065
03:09:38,210 --> 03:09:46,590
And so this 500,000 is to address all parcels, all five parcels.

2066
03:09:46,950 --> 03:09:55,410
It's to address all five parcels related to being able to get into the site, to make it impenetrable.

2067
03:09:56,030 --> 03:10:01,010
And then the majority of the cleanup is here on these two parcels.

2068
03:10:01,090 --> 03:10:06,310
That's where the majority of where the homeless living were most of the dumping has occurred.

2069
03:10:06,310 --> 03:10:11,090
There is some dumping on these two arson's,

2070
03:10:11,610 --> 03:10:15,330
but the lion's share of what the team has assessed

2071
03:10:15,330 --> 03:10:19,510
and some of the bids that we're starting not bids,

2072
03:10:20,030 --> 03:10:22,730
but evaluation that we've gotten from some of the teams,

2073
03:10:24,230 --> 03:10:26,390
it's in these two arson's,

2074
03:10:26,390 --> 03:10:28,090
where it most of the dumping's been occurring.

2075
03:10:28,430 --> 03:10:29,430
Okay, got it, okay.

2076
03:10:29,970 --> 03:10:32,430
Because typically when we have chronic nuisance properties,

2077
03:10:32,430 --> 03:10:39,480
There are reason why their chronic nuisance properties is because the property owner has been

2078
03:10:40,350 --> 03:10:43,630
unresponsive for extended period of time.

2079
03:10:43,970 --> 03:10:49,030
Code enforcement has done a great job trying to address the issue trying to cite the property

2080
03:10:49,030 --> 03:10:54,910
owner much to Mr. Bessertosh's point with his experience in properties in NLA.

2081
03:10:56,190 --> 03:11:01,430
Code enforcement does that, but still the property owner remains unresponsive does not do anything

2082
03:11:01,430 --> 03:11:07,790
with the property and so it leaves the city with no other choice but to take some sort of

2083
03:11:07,790 --> 03:11:14,950
action. Because without that action there's such a negative impact to the surrounding

2084
03:11:14,950 --> 03:11:22,350
neighborhood to the poor residents like Mr. Arya's constituent and they end up having to pay

2085
03:11:22,350 --> 03:11:29,490
that negative externality by being impacted by all of these things that happen on this property.

2086
03:11:29,490 --> 03:11:33,210
So ultimately, the city has to respond through code enforcement.

2087
03:11:34,270 --> 03:11:43,590
The issue here is that the cost to mitigate to address this problem, far exceeds the

2088
03:11:43,590 --> 03:11:49,450
code enforcement's budget to address these issues, and that's why this item is coming

2089
03:11:49,450 --> 03:11:49,850
today.

2090
03:11:50,150 --> 03:11:52,550
This is not unique to the city.

2091
03:11:52,650 --> 03:11:57,730
I mean, the city does this stuff all the time, but what is unique is the dollar amount

2092
03:11:57,730 --> 03:12:02,910
for this particular property and I think that's the challenge that I'm trying to

2093
03:12:02,910 --> 03:12:05,410
wrap around in my head because I'm not sure,

2094
03:12:08,380 --> 03:12:10,540
just as a policy matter,

2095
03:12:16,900 --> 03:12:18,100
I'm not quite sure

2096
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:25,020
as a policy matter given the fact that we have a responsive property owner how we should

2097
03:12:25,020 --> 03:12:35,100
best proceed. One of the ideas that we've initiated a few years ago that I think is one

2098
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:40,320
of the best ideas for the city of Bakerfield is this receivership program, is allowing

2099
03:12:40,320 --> 03:12:45,620
for us to bring in the courts to help us take, make some action on these properties. And we've

2100
03:12:45,620 --> 03:12:51,360
done some good work in my ward and actually throughout the city now because of that tool to address

2101
03:12:51,360 --> 03:12:53,700
some of these chronic nuisance properties, but here,

2102
03:12:55,500 --> 03:12:56,360
that's not the case.

2103
03:12:56,880 --> 03:12:58,220
Let me ask you a couple more questions

2104
03:12:58,220 --> 03:13:00,000
before I throw out some ideas.

2105
03:13:00,540 --> 03:13:05,640
One is, have we spent some time observing the rate

2106
03:13:05,640 --> 03:13:10,160
at which the construction debris has accumulated the property?

2107
03:13:13,930 --> 03:13:21,590
I think code monitors this property, and they would

2108
03:13:21,590 --> 03:13:25,090
the best person to answer that.

2109
03:13:26,150 --> 03:13:30,730
I know in the last four years that we've been talking about this property,

2110
03:13:32,530 --> 03:13:37,830
it has evident flow of because of code has taken certain actions to reduce

2111
03:13:37,830 --> 03:13:41,030
some of that construction debris, and then it just comes right back.

2112
03:13:41,110 --> 03:13:45,190
And I don't know how fast it comes back and the frequency,

2113
03:13:46,390 --> 03:13:49,610
and when are the peaks and valleys of that, I'm not sure,

2114
03:13:49,610 --> 03:13:54,530
but we can we can research that it would be helpful to know because I mean the pretty nasty photos

2115
03:13:54,530 --> 03:14:02,570
it's awful looking but you know is that after a year is that after a week is that after a

2116
03:14:02,570 --> 03:14:09,070
month it would be helpful to know really the severity of the issue because you know there are some

2117
03:14:09,070 --> 03:14:13,890
other steps that have weren't listed here that I think we ought to take number one is you know we

2118
03:14:13,890 --> 03:14:38,330
Invested significantly, this council has invested in bulky waste cleanups in doing mobile cleanups and mobile pick are what do we call it mobile pick up mobile location drop off drop off. Thank you. Thank you, but you know again part of our clean city initiative. We have more services now available to residents than I think ever.

2119
03:14:39,370 --> 03:14:48,350
We need to, I like, you know, Mr. Lagi's comment. We need to be more proactive in our effort

2120
03:14:48,350 --> 03:14:57,530
to do outreach to these construction companies. And also, I would like us to, and perhaps

2121
03:14:57,530 --> 03:14:59,970
has already been done, but I would like us to spit.

2122
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:12,580
And some more time on-site, either through private security, existing private security contract, or by-staff, to monitor

2123
03:15:12,580 --> 03:15:22,380
those bad actors, and to, in real time, provide them some education of what the appropriate process is.

2124
03:15:22,380 --> 03:15:28,300
That this, in fact, is not dumping site to Mr. Smith's comment earlier.

2125
03:15:31,000 --> 03:15:37,860
But the last thing I think is that this really is about economic development.

2126
03:15:38,120 --> 03:15:41,980
This is really ultimately what we want to do here is not just clean up the site.

2127
03:15:42,520 --> 03:15:48,360
If we zoom out from a city council perspective but we really want to see and we really

2128
03:15:48,360 --> 03:15:54,580
want to see with all of these chronic news properties is a better and higher use of that

2129
03:15:54,580 --> 03:15:55,020
property.

2130
03:15:55,540 --> 03:16:02,700
What we want to see on this particular property, all these parcels, are new construction,

2131
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:08,000
you know, new homes, housing development, we want to see, you know, families living on

2132
03:16:08,000 --> 03:16:08,520
these properties.

2133
03:16:08,740 --> 03:16:10,840
Ultimately, that is the solution.

2134
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:14,300
So the question now, my mind is, how do we get there?

2135
03:16:14,540 --> 03:16:16,980
How do we get to that development?

2136
03:16:16,980 --> 03:16:29,790
Obviously, this particular problem is a real burden barrier to to see that property developed.

2137
03:16:30,130 --> 03:16:37,490
And so from my lens, I don't see this as a response to a nuisance in the way of code enforcement.

2138
03:16:37,490 --> 03:16:40,210
I really see this as an economic development tool.

2139
03:16:41,030 --> 03:16:45,150
So similar to what we do with tax increment financing, for example,

2140
03:16:45,150 --> 03:17:12,930
Where, again, there is a president set where we may offer a certain incentive to a developer because we know that over the course of the project that the revenue generated by a better use through property tax increases will allow the city to actually recoup those funds in the future.

2141
03:17:14,130 --> 03:17:16,770
That's the way I kind of take a look at this project.

2142
03:17:17,170 --> 03:17:21,170
And so I understand there may not be, you know,

2143
03:17:21,370 --> 03:17:25,950
I know that there may not be a TIFF mechanism for this particular

2144
03:17:25,950 --> 03:17:27,890
development, this particular use.

2145
03:17:28,130 --> 03:17:30,730
I know that the, what is it?

2146
03:17:30,830 --> 03:17:35,810
The EIFDs typically are related to public infrastructure

2147
03:17:35,810 --> 03:17:39,230
investments and specifically for affordable housing.

2148
03:17:39,230 --> 03:17:55,830
So, I'm not sure there's a good mechanism yet that the state has provided for cities, but I think that through that lens I can see us pursuing this strategy, you know, again for the purposes of economic development.

2149
03:18:00,300 --> 03:18:02,640
So, yeah, I'll support it. Thanks.

2150
03:18:03,940 --> 03:18:05,940
Thank you, consumer with Gonzales, consumer with Coleman.

2151
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:11,620
Thank you, Mayor.

2152
03:18:12,780 --> 03:18:18,620
So, I have similar policy matter concerns about this.

2153
03:18:22,190 --> 03:18:31,330
First of all, this is the same property that the more partners were here about last meeting

2154
03:18:31,330 --> 03:18:37,810
where they had spent money and then you know what I'm talking about?

2155
03:18:38,110 --> 03:18:39,990
Yeah, let me go there.

2156
03:18:40,890 --> 03:18:42,370
That's the property of the.

2157
03:18:42,370 --> 03:18:50,630
Okay, so they already spent money cleaning this up, and then the offenders went and dumped more stuff on there.

2158
03:18:51,570 --> 03:18:54,850
All right, so is there a breakdown?

2159
03:18:55,550 --> 03:18:58,110
I don't, maybe you showed it to me, maybe I missed it.

2160
03:18:58,210 --> 03:19:04,630
Is there a breakdown of how this $500,000 is going to be spent?

2161
03:19:05,490 --> 03:19:06,410
Did I see that in there?

2162
03:19:06,610 --> 03:19:07,390
Did I miss that?

2163
03:19:07,610 --> 03:19:07,990
No.

2164
03:19:09,730 --> 03:19:14,970
I think there's a kind of multi-pronged approach.

2165
03:19:15,690 --> 03:19:19,330
We don't have a line item budget in this presentation,

2166
03:19:20,050 --> 03:19:21,790
but based on the teams recommendation,

2167
03:19:22,870 --> 03:19:26,510
obviously barriers will be of a cost.

2168
03:19:27,850 --> 03:19:30,670
We have an access of 200 trucks,

2169
03:19:32,090 --> 03:19:35,050
truckloads of how many trucks have to go to the dump

2170
03:19:35,050 --> 03:19:37,290
to put this where it belonged.

2171
03:19:37,290 --> 03:19:56,310
So, that's really the majority of the cost, I mean, the barriers or some cost getting the heavy machinery out there to move, you know, the massive piles around, but it's equipment, trucks, and manpower to get stuff done.

2172
03:19:56,310 --> 03:20:04,030
So one of the things I struggle with here is that, and I appreciate the more partners

2173
03:20:04,030 --> 03:20:11,210
in their diligence on this parcel and the things they're doing on the East Side Town,

2174
03:20:13,190 --> 03:20:20,090
but at the time when I get beat up every time I see Richard Chapman from economic development

2175
03:20:20,090 --> 03:20:26,370
corporation because he's on me about the call-cut buildings that it burnt over there

2176
03:20:26,370 --> 03:20:32,610
and just piles of rubble and we can't seem to get those cleaned up. We don't have

2177
03:20:32,610 --> 03:20:38,670
money in our budget for us to do it and so you know but now we're looking for half

2178
03:20:38,670 --> 03:20:44,490
a million dollars to clean up you know some other place and so that's where I get into

2179
03:20:45,110 --> 03:20:52,710
that policy question. If we do it once, we have to do it everywhere. Where do we draw

2180
03:20:52,710 --> 03:21:04,270
a lot? How do we make that case? So I'm struggling a little bit with this one. Any

2181
03:21:04,270 --> 03:21:11,550
you can talk about prevention, be size these barriers like you're going to start having

2182
03:21:11,550 --> 03:21:17,830
Please helicopter fly over it, you know, whenever they're around or whatever, I don't know.

2183
03:21:18,430 --> 03:21:20,210
To start trying to do some affordable.

2184
03:21:21,210 --> 03:21:26,790
So in our secure column there, we talk about bringing in some,

2185
03:21:27,170 --> 03:21:32,590
but before this develops bringing in some temp lighting, obviously,

2186
03:21:33,510 --> 03:21:38,490
we'll just talk about it was maybe some on-site surveillance, having some extra security out there.

2187
03:21:38,490 --> 03:21:41,810
We would not be using any of our dollars to do this.

2188
03:21:41,810 --> 03:21:48,730
This would be private property owner would need to do some of these things.

2189
03:21:48,950 --> 03:22:03,190
We would just want to make sure there's, it's impenetrable from a barrier standpoint and then they would need to do some investment of lighting on site private surveillance.

2190
03:22:03,190 --> 03:22:09,930
I think the one thing I would add to what Gary had shared was that we have discussed

2191
03:22:09,930 --> 03:22:18,090
the, you know, as the concept of changing a little bit how we do legal dumping enforcement

2192
03:22:18,090 --> 03:22:23,690
has come up, can we put some cameras up, can we do some additional illegal dumping

2193
03:22:24,930 --> 03:22:30,550
enforcement that has been contemplated for this site and just, you know, I know you're

2194
03:22:30,550 --> 03:22:35,270
and talking to Chief Council member, but I have to clarify for the public record, we do not have a police helicopter.

2195
03:22:41,820 --> 03:22:52,360
So, yeah, so, you know, I see the need, but I'm hesitant to support this.

2196
03:22:52,860 --> 03:23:01,200
Not that I don't want us to do this, but I'd like to have a more comprehensive understanding of what our policy is going to be about to.

2197
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:10,680
And I know it's not just the call cut, there's other ones around too, and we could dump a couple million bucks in these things pretty quickly.

2198
03:23:11,720 --> 03:23:18,340
And so two things, one is things like K-Rail and those kind of things we ought to have.

2199
03:23:18,680 --> 03:23:27,300
If we need to have it, is there some other means by which we can buy those and have them to where we use them in different projects.

2200
03:23:29,460 --> 03:23:38,220
But I'd like to have, I think I think maybe more of a bus conversation about what we're

2201
03:23:38,220 --> 03:23:42,160
going to do about all these sites around, and there's several of them.

2202
03:23:42,780 --> 03:23:45,640
We can all think of two or three off top of our head.

2203
03:23:46,720 --> 03:23:49,020
I know what the city's approach is going to be to those.

2204
03:23:49,140 --> 03:23:57,140
Because I don't want to dump a $500,000 lean on it, guys, property, that we may, we may

2205
03:23:57,140 --> 03:24:02,940
see it. But you know, if you have an other town investor that owns the land that you

2206
03:24:02,940 --> 03:24:08,340
know, he is father bought it before him. I don't know the case exactly, but you know, he

2207
03:24:08,340 --> 03:24:16,620
might not care. So we might be, you know, 10, 20 years before that, problems ever developed.

2208
03:24:17,280 --> 03:24:22,040
So I don't know. I just, I'm just, I'm struggling with this right now, so no.

2209
03:24:22,040 --> 03:24:31,760
If I may Council Member, just as we developed our economic development strategic plan, this council

2210
03:24:31,760 --> 03:24:37,900
asks us to also develop a rubric set of criteria for making decisions about economic development

2211
03:24:37,900 --> 03:24:45,100
incentives, there could be an opportunity to also, we have a chronic nuisance program that

2212
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:51,540
the staff actually spends a lot of time ranking properties that our chronic nuisance is under

2213
03:24:51,540 --> 03:24:58,640
of certain sort of criteria. Another potential, you know, thought from the council going forward

2214
03:24:58,640 --> 03:25:05,960
is to first have to develop a set of criteria that could be used as a framework for making

2215
03:25:05,960 --> 03:25:11,600
decisions about these very unique large chronic nuisance properties. It would be, in my mind, it would

2216
03:25:11,600 --> 03:25:17,100
actually be fairly similar to the economic development, you know, incentive criteria. And we have a

2217
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:20,800
few different tools in the tool belt, you know, we do have the abatement process, we're working

2218
03:25:20,800 --> 03:25:30,780
on a lean forgiveness policy that would be available in instances where it's creating, you've

2219
03:25:30,780 --> 03:25:37,740
got a new ownership and you're going to generate new economic activity. Do you look at those

2220
03:25:37,740 --> 03:25:43,360
leans and so just food for thought for the council that it could be a future action for staff

2221
03:25:43,360 --> 03:25:49,020
as to develop a certain criteria that council could use in making these kind of decisions because

2222
03:25:49,020 --> 03:25:53,660
There are a rare number of times where we would suggest,

2223
03:25:53,660 --> 03:25:59,520
let's use additional dollars to address a significant issue.

2224
03:26:00,920 --> 03:26:03,140
But to some of the points that have been noted tonight,

2225
03:26:03,340 --> 03:26:06,380
there are times where you're going to create opportunities

2226
03:26:07,560 --> 03:26:11,460
and address problems that come to the good of the community

2227
03:26:11,460 --> 03:26:12,200
ultimately.

2228
03:26:13,540 --> 03:26:17,740
And there are ways that we could measure that

2229
03:26:17,740 --> 03:26:18,960
in a reasonable framework.

2230
03:26:20,780 --> 03:26:29,740
One other idea just to add to the C major click is also in kind of the economic development

2231
03:26:30,700 --> 03:26:35,660
mindset, having the property owner have some sort of commitment.

2232
03:26:36,500 --> 03:26:42,060
What I'm hearing you say is maybe we want to see this developed in five to ten years.

2233
03:26:42,060 --> 03:26:49,360
maybe they have some sort of, well, if we invest 500,000 that there needs to be some sort of additional

2234
03:26:49,360 --> 03:26:57,220
commitment out of them that we see this property develop, you know, in some sort of criteria that

2235
03:26:57,220 --> 03:27:01,840
aligns to what CMander was talking about with the economic government framework.

2236
03:27:03,280 --> 03:27:08,360
Yeah, I don't know if I know the answers to those questions. I think I'm posing the question right

2237
03:27:08,360 --> 03:27:15,360
were the answer to them. So, you know, for my money, I'd like to see us have a further discussion

2238
03:27:15,360 --> 03:27:24,640
about that. In support of it, I will make one comment that the council took a very, very

2239
03:27:24,640 --> 03:27:36,000
conservative approach to preparing this year's budget. And we purposely didn't act on some

2240
03:27:37,280 --> 03:27:47,040
We decided to pool that and wait till mid-year to see how our numbers are going to work out

2241
03:27:47,040 --> 03:27:48,980
before we committed any of that.

2242
03:27:49,680 --> 03:27:52,660
So we had made some reservations,

2243
03:27:55,360 --> 03:27:58,720
some contingency money set aside for these kind of projects.

2244
03:27:58,880 --> 03:28:03,800
I just like to know how the better understanding of what our policy is.

2245
03:28:03,800 --> 03:28:10,040
So we don't have to have these to conversations when these things come up that we know what we're going to do.

2246
03:28:10,040 --> 03:28:12,580
We know what we're capable of doing, we're not going to do.

2247
03:28:15,070 --> 03:28:20,630
So I guess I'm going to have to think about if I would make a motion or anything.

2248
03:28:20,710 --> 03:28:21,430
I don't know.

2249
03:28:21,930 --> 03:28:22,970
That's all the questions I have.

2250
03:28:22,970 --> 03:28:23,350
Thank you.

2251
03:28:23,550 --> 03:28:24,590
Thank you Mayor.

2252
03:28:25,990 --> 03:28:34,090
I just want to share that I appreciate the honest thinking and scrutiny of this allocation.

2253
03:28:34,090 --> 03:28:38,710
And I too share some of those concerns because I agree,

2254
03:28:38,890 --> 03:28:42,170
particularly in Council Member Gonzalez's district

2255
03:28:42,170 --> 03:28:45,030
in mind, we have numerous of these properties.

2256
03:28:46,410 --> 03:28:49,950
And so I know that I can't come back for a second time

2257
03:28:49,950 --> 03:28:54,290
when there's another 40-acre lot with the similar problem.

2258
03:28:54,910 --> 03:28:56,850
And so I think this is a unique opportunity.

2259
03:28:57,850 --> 03:29:02,150
But I also want to make sure that we're

2260
03:29:02,150 --> 03:29:08,370
also not losing sight of the fact that this is a compounding problem, not just for future economic

2261
03:29:08,370 --> 03:29:15,690
development, but it's an immediate public safety issue, that the trash that's not on the

2262
03:29:15,690 --> 03:29:21,790
screen anymore, but the debris stretches all the way back to our spreading fields and connects

2263
03:29:21,790 --> 03:29:28,190
and abuts immediately, you know, an entire section of R1 residential homes.

2264
03:29:28,190 --> 03:29:30,930
So there are many community members,

2265
03:29:30,990 --> 03:29:34,550
newaries, along with her neighbors who are very concerned

2266
03:29:35,510 --> 03:29:39,690
that when not if, but when another fire breaks out,

2267
03:29:40,150 --> 03:29:42,610
that fire may actually pose an immediate threat

2268
03:29:42,610 --> 03:29:44,570
in harm to their property.

2269
03:29:45,630 --> 03:29:48,110
And so, as Council Member Gonzalez mentioned,

2270
03:29:48,590 --> 03:29:50,850
we just don't have the funds in the budget today

2271
03:29:50,850 --> 03:29:52,630
to debate this project.

2272
03:29:53,410 --> 03:29:55,710
And so we need an additional allocation,

2273
03:29:55,710 --> 03:29:59,970
like the one tonight in order to be able to, uh, a bait, uh,

2274
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,640
I'll share that just a couple of weeks ago from my count, it was the fourth fire in the span of

2275
03:30:09,640 --> 03:30:29,980
about three months that fourth fire was the largest that I've seen on the property, but it actually

2276
03:30:29,980 --> 03:30:37,340
The larger part of it in chunk was on the property of the property owner who we cannot get in contact with.

2277
03:30:37,700 --> 03:30:48,000
And so even if we were to ask the investor to bait their side, they're still more than 50% that we could not get under control.

2278
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:59,360
So just wanted to share that and share that I appreciate the concern and actually would like to ask what the appropriate committee would be for us to make a referral

2279
03:30:59,360 --> 03:31:06,440
that committee take a look at, you know, what is that threshold for council to consider

2280
03:31:06,440 --> 03:31:11,760
a level of investment and attention, frankly, like this?

2281
03:31:12,580 --> 03:31:13,660
Councillor Morarius,

2282
03:31:16,520 --> 03:31:21,540
at first blush, but we could also always come back and revisit that,

2283
03:31:21,540 --> 03:31:26,060
but I actually think probably safe and healthy neighborhoods makes the most sense.

2284
03:31:26,060 --> 03:31:29,460
Okay, then with that, I'll make that referral tonight.

2285
03:31:30,420 --> 03:31:31,220
Thank you.

2286
03:31:32,880 --> 03:31:33,680
Councilmember Smith.

2287
03:31:37,100 --> 03:31:37,500
Thank you, Mayor.

2288
03:31:38,720 --> 03:31:42,960
The referral does not apply to this.

2289
03:31:42,960 --> 03:31:46,080
That's a separate referral that I'm hearing.

2290
03:31:49,060 --> 03:31:56,220
I'm just thinking that I am correct in the developer.

2291
03:31:56,820 --> 03:31:59,040
The one of the landowners is here.

2292
03:31:59,040 --> 03:32:07,340
is that correct? And that we've talked about how I guess payback or if I guess payback over time

2293
03:32:07,340 --> 03:32:20,030
or how we work through that and perhaps it would be a good idea to continue and have conversations

2294
03:32:20,950 --> 03:32:27,190
with a developer and come back in another meeting.

2295
03:32:29,210 --> 03:32:30,750
So I'm not going to make that motion because

2296
03:32:30,750 --> 03:32:38,970
just in more than one, and so I'll let him think about that, but that would be something

2297
03:32:38,970 --> 03:32:45,150
that I think perhaps we could address some of the concerns that other council members

2298
03:32:45,150 --> 03:32:51,070
are having and find solutions.

2299
03:32:51,610 --> 03:32:58,450
If I may, council members Smith, in the spirit of trying to help address some of the questions

2300
03:32:58,450 --> 03:33:05,790
concerns as well. I think if if we were to take just a little bit more time we could potentially

2301
03:33:06,630 --> 03:33:13,170
refine numbers for what are the costs of the securing versus the abatement and what is

2302
03:33:13,170 --> 03:33:18,130
and the signage versus the abatement and also what would be the costs for the abatement of

2303
03:33:18,130 --> 03:33:23,290
the northern portion. So just for just for some additional clarity what you see on the page

2304
03:33:23,290 --> 03:33:29,190
on screen right now. There's a northern portion that is the separate property owner and the southern

2305
03:33:29,190 --> 03:33:38,410
portion that has, you know, is I maybe slightly off on this, either in the process of acquisition

2306
03:33:38,410 --> 03:33:45,450
or has been acquired by other property owners. They have it. Okay, has been acquired by other

2307
03:33:46,510 --> 03:33:53,490
We could potentially try and also separate out what the costs may be for a

2308
03:33:53,490 --> 03:33:58,310
abatement of the non-responsive versus the responsive that might help look at

2309
03:33:58,310 --> 03:33:59,930
those dollars more specifically.

2310
03:34:00,890 --> 03:34:04,010
And then I think it's also worth noting I'll just take a moment to clarify this

2311
03:34:04,010 --> 03:34:09,670
that the ownership of the larger section to the south, that's fairly recent

2312
03:34:09,670 --> 03:34:10,250
ownership.

2313
03:34:10,630 --> 03:34:15,050
They've come into that ownership in more recent years and cleaned it up.

2314
03:34:15,050 --> 03:34:19,010
And then the ownership, but if you go back together, one, Gary, thank you.

2315
03:34:19,610 --> 03:34:25,730
The southern portion of this property, very recently acquired, and so, you know, I think

2316
03:34:25,730 --> 03:34:31,950
it's worth noting that we're not talking about the same actors over multiple years.

2317
03:34:32,030 --> 03:34:39,750
This is a new owner who's trying to be responsible and in a spirit of the long-term solution,

2318
03:34:39,750 --> 03:34:45,430
And we're looking at ways to help secure the site and force the site, but then also address

2319
03:34:45,430 --> 03:34:48,630
the abatement costs to the cost of the property if that helps.

2320
03:34:48,930 --> 03:34:57,290
But there may be ways for us to, again, in summary, refine the numbers that would help give

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03:34:57,290 --> 03:35:02,770
clarity and potentially options for how to spend those dollars and maybe work on some

2322
03:35:02,770 --> 03:35:06,230
of the other questions that have been raised at the same time.

2323
03:35:06,470 --> 03:35:07,350
Thank you.

2324
03:35:09,830 --> 03:35:14,230
Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to make a referral that we pursue the

2325
03:35:14,230 --> 03:35:18,770
receivership process for those parcels under the ownership of the

2326
03:35:18,770 --> 03:35:26,810
unresponsive owner, because even if we do see development on these sites,

2327
03:35:27,810 --> 03:35:34,410
those existing parcels remain a nuisance and a problem for the community

2328
03:35:34,410 --> 03:35:42,230
moving forward. So if it, if it makes sense, I would like us to at least consider or explore

2329
03:35:42,230 --> 03:35:47,410
that option for that property. Thank you, Council member. We can sell this, Council member.

2330
03:35:47,530 --> 03:35:55,130
Are yes. Thank you, Mayor. Given the feedback from some of my colleagues and also given that we

2331
03:35:55,130 --> 03:36:03,810
are approaching 9pm, I would like to withdraw my motion. I mean, introduce a new motion to bring this

2332
03:36:03,810 --> 03:36:13,510
item back at the next council meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Any other request to speak? Seeing none. You have a motion. Please catch your votes.

2333
03:36:26,280 --> 03:36:30,900
The motion is approved with Council Member Bashir Tashvori no and vice mayor core absent.

2334
03:36:31,920 --> 03:36:37,680
Thank you and now. Next item please. Council and mayor statements.

2335
03:36:42,140 --> 03:36:45,980
Here's the screen so I can see with our any council member Bashir Tash.

2336
03:36:47,420 --> 03:36:52,940
Can we get a presentation on municipal code and the standards that we are supposed to?

2337
03:36:53,100 --> 03:36:56,140
I heard Councilman Gonzalez talking about some of the things that we can do.

2338
03:36:56,980 --> 03:37:02,220
I'd like a presentation and then some thoughts on how we can put more teeth in it to

2339
03:37:02,500 --> 03:37:05,860
hold people accountable and taking properties that are just kind of destroying.

2340
03:37:06,600 --> 03:37:07,800
And not just commercial residential.

2341
03:37:08,160 --> 03:37:10,840
I mean we need to just something.

2342
03:37:11,300 --> 03:37:15,440
I want to know what our policy is and some ideas on how we can actually hold people accountable

2343
03:37:15,440 --> 03:37:22,000
So that we're not wasting tax payer money for clarity counts of merit, nuisance product chronic nuisance properties.

2344
03:37:22,800 --> 03:37:25,460
Yeah, I would even chronic nuisance properties.

2345
03:37:25,580 --> 03:37:30,220
I don't know what our standards are for even front yards if there's grass levels and cars parked in.

2346
03:37:30,380 --> 03:37:31,860
I'm sure there's just I get considered.

2347
03:37:32,780 --> 03:37:35,000
We need something that's got teeth, real teeth.

2348
03:37:36,700 --> 03:37:39,080
That's that for first or for a second.

2349
03:37:39,540 --> 03:37:44,920
Can we begin to look at the adoption of the best practices, best practices,

2350
03:37:44,920 --> 03:37:51,500
tool kit for homelessness and addiction for treatment. First policy that just came out was published.

2351
03:37:52,400 --> 03:37:58,200
I think I received the copy of it, Carlos, the director of the mission. It's just fantastic. It's

2352
03:37:58,200 --> 03:38:03,560
what all sides used to work on to actually get in front of this issue that we've gone away from

2353
03:38:03,560 --> 03:38:08,740
the last two decades that it's really created this, this homeless problem. And so I think that that

2354
03:38:08,740 --> 03:38:14,140
would be incredible to get done. We need to figure out how we can start rolling out the adoption

2355
03:38:14,140 --> 03:38:18,380
and that instead of continuing the waste millions of dollars on what's not working.

2356
03:38:19,620 --> 03:38:20,440
That's it.

2357
03:38:22,400 --> 03:38:23,840
Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez.

2358
03:38:24,560 --> 03:38:25,120
Thank you, Mayor.

2359
03:38:25,720 --> 03:38:33,620
You know, after the recent events over the weekend and the tragedy, there has been a

2360
03:38:33,620 --> 03:38:39,220
lot of questions about youth violence and gain related shootings and homicides, and I think

2361
03:38:39,220 --> 03:38:47,020
It would be worthwhile for this council to within a council meeting to have a workshop related

2362
03:38:47,020 --> 03:38:53,100
to some of our violence intervention work so that the community can have a fuller understanding

2363
03:38:53,100 --> 03:38:58,420
as some of the work that we're already engaged in because there's a lot of ideas out there,

2364
03:38:58,980 --> 03:39:04,620
a lot of great conversations, but I think it would be helpful for us to at least establish a baseline

2365
03:39:04,620 --> 03:39:10,480
of what's already taking place within the city of Bakersville, along with many other community partners.

2366
03:39:13,670 --> 03:39:15,530
Thank you, Councillor Mibbon. It's all this. Councillor Mibbon, are you?

2367
03:39:16,390 --> 03:39:24,010
Thank you, Mayor. I'll just share that that's a wonderful idea given all of the

2368
03:39:24,850 --> 03:39:32,950
interest in this topic, but also just the communities outpouring of support and concern rather about

2369
03:39:33,770 --> 03:39:39,610
say safety in our community, I also just would love to add on some of the investments this

2370
03:39:39,610 --> 03:39:45,910
council has made into the partnerships between BPD and our school resource officers and

2371
03:39:45,910 --> 03:39:52,530
placing those at particular sites of interest. There's so many different things that we have

2372
03:39:53,330 --> 03:39:58,890
done to make our community safer but also in partnership with some of our key partners like

2373
03:39:58,890 --> 03:40:04,210
school districts and so we'd love to make sure that we're taking full stock of all of that.

2374
03:40:04,250 --> 03:40:09,030
All of that worked. Mr. Clay, did you have something? Thank you, Mayor. I just

2375
03:40:09,610 --> 03:40:15,750
would appreciate the opportunities, reflect very briefly a couple of overarching thoughts on this topic

2376
03:40:16,550 --> 03:40:22,510
because it is a large conversation that's going on in the community right now.

2377
03:40:22,510 --> 03:40:33,490
I would first say that any act of violence, any tragedy, loss of life is so unfortunate.

2378
03:40:34,350 --> 03:40:38,770
And we are very saddened by the incident that occurred last week.

2379
03:40:39,290 --> 03:40:46,210
I think it's also important to reflect that Bakersfield, from a gun violence perspective,

2380
03:40:47,030 --> 03:40:50,970
has not been as safe as it has been the last two years in more than a decade.

2381
03:40:50,970 --> 03:40:55,530
The efforts that have been underway have made incredible progress.

2382
03:40:55,830 --> 03:41:01,410
Every incident matters, and we want to make sure that we stop every incident we can,

2383
03:41:01,770 --> 03:41:04,210
and that we respond to every incident.

2384
03:41:05,090 --> 03:41:09,070
But because of the efforts of the Bakersville Police Department,

2385
03:41:09,590 --> 03:41:13,230
our Office of Violence and Prevention and Prevention, our community-based organizations,

2386
03:41:13,990 --> 03:41:19,790
we saw more than a 70% reduction in homicides and shootings from 2021 through 2024.

2387
03:41:19,790 --> 03:41:24,290
We saw a very slight plateauing and uptick of last year.

2388
03:41:24,670 --> 03:41:28,490
If you reflect in 2021, we had 60 homicides.

2389
03:41:28,870 --> 03:41:31,310
17 of those were gang violence related.

2390
03:41:33,390 --> 03:41:37,310
And in 2025, we had 33 homicides.

2391
03:41:37,790 --> 03:41:39,910
Three of those were gang violence related.

2392
03:41:40,490 --> 03:41:43,490
In 2026, we had only 10 homicides.

2393
03:41:44,490 --> 03:41:47,310
One, the one last week was gang violence related.

2394
03:41:47,310 --> 03:41:51,030
It is remarkable, the reduction in gain violence.

2395
03:41:51,410 --> 03:41:52,710
I would argue that our community

2396
03:41:53,210 --> 03:41:54,970
will make gun violence standpoint

2397
03:41:54,970 --> 03:41:57,190
has become very safe.

2398
03:41:58,230 --> 03:42:02,410
And again, every incident that concerns our community

2399
03:42:02,410 --> 03:42:06,550
that is different than that is important to us.

2400
03:42:07,470 --> 03:42:09,430
But the gains have been significant,

2401
03:42:09,430 --> 03:42:11,530
and we're going to continue to make those gains

2402
03:42:11,530 --> 03:42:12,790
and work hard on this topic,

2403
03:42:12,810 --> 03:42:14,510
but there's lots of work that's been happening.

2404
03:42:14,510 --> 03:42:26,050
and I will express just some concern that as we were rallying partners in 2021 to do this work for

2405
03:42:26,050 --> 03:42:33,770
many of the young people in our disadvantaged neighborhoods who are experiencing these incidents

2406
03:42:33,770 --> 03:42:40,970
at a too high of a rate. We didn't have the same community impetus at the time. We will welcome

2407
03:42:40,970 --> 03:42:44,710
any energy that is created from these type of incidents.

2408
03:42:45,370 --> 03:42:47,970
But we've rolled up our sleeves and been doing this work for a long time.

2409
03:42:48,110 --> 03:42:49,210
I've seen really big results.

2410
03:42:50,150 --> 03:42:53,050
And we'll take the opportunity to make that even bigger.

2411
03:42:53,890 --> 03:42:57,730
I would note our overall crime also significantly down.

2412
03:42:57,910 --> 03:43:01,970
But we're very frustrated about the chronic low-level quality of life crimes

2413
03:43:01,970 --> 03:43:03,330
that can be played in our community.

2414
03:43:03,910 --> 03:43:06,050
That is issue number one for your council.

2415
03:43:06,610 --> 03:43:09,850
You've made that issue number one for staff to address.

2416
03:43:09,850 --> 03:43:16,850
but our gun violence issues have been dramatically different, and it's fortunate that these are isolated instances today.

2417
03:43:18,170 --> 03:43:21,230
Thank you, Mr. Kleg. Council member Coleman.

2418
03:43:23,010 --> 03:43:23,550
Thank you, Mayor.

2419
03:43:24,450 --> 03:43:27,350
I wanted to reach out to Angela Frazier.

2420
03:43:27,610 --> 03:43:29,750
I'm sitting here, Dr. Angela Frazier.

2421
03:43:30,370 --> 03:43:36,850
I've been sitting here all night, and I appreciate that.

2422
03:43:38,770 --> 03:43:47,730
Unfortunately, Johnny Elogas made some remarks as the exited, which were, you know, for those

2423
03:43:47,730 --> 03:43:53,210
people that don't know Mr. Elogas, that can be offensive of some of his comments.

2424
03:43:54,230 --> 03:44:01,590
So I apologize that we didn't react, I know you wanted to be able to respond to him and

2425
03:44:01,590 --> 03:44:06,450
we didn't give him an opportunity to do that, and so I apologize for not understanding

2426
03:44:06,450 --> 03:44:07,830
what you were telling me at that time.

2427
03:44:08,530 --> 03:44:10,130
So thank you for sitting through this whole thing.

2428
03:44:10,250 --> 03:44:15,970
I hope you learned something and that's all I have to say about that.

2429
03:44:16,350 --> 03:44:18,190
So thank you.

2430
03:44:18,450 --> 03:44:21,990
I don't see any other requests, so we stand at adjourn at 8.51.