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In the following Wednesday at 7 p.m. You can download the agenda for this meeting at www.bacersfieldcity.us.

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to us, presiding over this evening's meeting,

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the Honorable Mayor Karen K. Go.

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Good evening. It's my pleasure to call to order the 515

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regular City Council meeting of August 26th,

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26th. Madam Clerk, please call the roll.

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Here.

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Council Member Aria?

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Here.

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Council Member Gonzalez?

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Here.

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Council Member Weer?

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Here.

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Council Member Smith?

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I'm here.

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Council Member Comin?

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Thank you, and welcome to all of you.

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Thank you so much for engaging in the civic process.

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Tonight, we have an interpreter for Spanish speakers,

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and at this time, I'd like to ask the interpreter to come forward,

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and very quickly, let the audience know that equipment is available in Spanish.

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Hola, muy buenas tardes a todos bienvenidos a esta reunión el día de hoy.

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El día de hoy vamos a tener interpretación simultánea a través de la reunión.

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Thank you, and if you're here to speak during the public statements portion of the meeting, you'll need to pre-register the key asks in the back staff is there ready to assist you if needed.

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And before we begin, I'd like to acknowledge that per staff's recommendation, public hearing

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item 8A. That's the vesting tentative track map appeal. We'll be open and continue to

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the September 16th, 2026 City Council meeting. While the public can still make comments

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today, we encourage you to wait until that item is heard at our September 16th meeting.

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Tonight, we have the pleasure of having Father Jimmy Melon, who's vicar at St. Joseph's

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Catholic Church to offer the invocation.

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Thank you, Father.

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So much for your service to our community.

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I know your church is actively involved in food drives and outreach.

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And you just recently performed a wedding of our chair of the Keep Bakersville Beautiful

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Committee.

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That was a beautiful ceremony.

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Following the invocation, Michelle Anton Giovanni, who is a senior at Garza's Memorial High School,

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will lead us in the pledge.

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Michelle is a Ford dimension dream builder.

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She's here with her mentor and advisor Peggy.

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Michelle has a 4.8 GPA.

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She's national honor society member, who is participated in five varsity sports over the last four years,

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including golf, cross country, track, lacrosse, soccer, and tennis.

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She's founder and president of the Uncampus Club, got the dot.

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She's president of CSF, president of helping hands, student council president, and vice-president

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of the Bass Club.

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She's a leader of the Healthy Light Committee and the Interact Club, link crew leader, Italian

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club leader, blood cancer, United Junior Leadership Board.

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She'll be asking you for money soon, and the got-to-dot off-campus leadership program.

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The show went an incredible person you are, and we're just so proud to have you in our

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community.

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Father, would you often stand now?

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Let us gather for prayer.

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Almighty God, we give you thanks for the blessing of this community of Bakersfield, and for

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the men and women who have accepted the responsibility of serving its people.

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Grant our city counsel the gift of wisdom and their decisions, assist them in their service and bless them as they work for the common good.

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Bless the people of Baker's field, especially our families, our children.

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Those who are most struggling at this time may or city of Baker's field continue to grow in prosperity, peace and goodwill.

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Guide all to participate in this meeting today that their deliberations may bear good fruit for our community.

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We ask this to Christ our Lord, amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands

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One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Michelle would you like to officially introduce your advisor and you all may be seated.

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Just introduce who that person is with you.

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Okay, so to my left is this is Peggy Rivera, she is the mentor and director of the Ford Dream Builders and Dimension Program, which I'm very excited to be a part of.

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And yeah, I look forward to getting to know her more throughout the course of the year.

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Thank you so much. Thank you Michelle, father. Thank you so much.

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Here a few guidelines to help our meeting runs smoothly.

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We request that you turn off your phones, please be courteous in the use of cameras and videos.

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A clause is allowed during the presentation's portion of the meeting only, but not during other portions of the meeting.

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Everyone in attendance in person or by phone is expected to adhere to the rules of decorum.

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Establish by Resolution of the City Council. Failure to abide by the city's rules of decorum, including any disruptive

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behavior that interferes with our ability to have an orderly and efficient meeting prevents

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the city council from conducting the business of the city. Consider this a first warning to everyone

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participating that conduct that disrupts this meeting may result in expulsion and or the chambers

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being cleared. The favor that disrupts the meeting includes repetitive statements, shouting,

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hate speech, interrupting staff or presenters during the meeting, speaking out of turn,

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outbursts from the audience. Telephonic participants are expected to adhere to the same rules

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today, as those attending here in person. Madam Clerk, next item please.

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Please, presentations item for a proclamation to Leslie Bloomquist and Mary Stanley of Baby Cafe, Monica Delos Santos of Clinical Serivista, WIC, Marissa Reinoso Ortiz and KT Reinoso of Community Action Partnership of Kern, WIC and Terriva Porter of the Kern County Breast Feeding Coalition, declaring National Breast Feeding Month in Bakersfield during August 26.

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Thank you. Strengthening breastfeeding support and resources promotes healthier beginnings for children and families and contributes to the health and well-being of our community.

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It's my honor to read this proclamation. Whereas August is recognized nationally as national breastfeeding month and observance that raises awareness of the importance of breastfeeding and the benefits to infants, mothers, families and communities.

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And whereas breastfeeding provides infants with essential nutrition and protection, contributing

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to healthy growth and development, while also benefiting the health of mothers and whereas

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organizations and professionals throughout Bakersfield and Kern County, including baby

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cup-aid Bakersfield, clinic SCR, this WIC, community action partnership of Kern WIC and

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Kern County breastfeeding coalition worked year round to connect families with breastfeeding

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education, support, resources, and services. And whereas the City of Bakersfield is committed

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to supporting children and families within our community. Now, therefore, I, Karen Gomez,

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the City of Bakersfield, do hereby proclaim August 2026 as National breastfeeding month

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in our city and encourage all our residents, community organizations, health care providers, and

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families to recognize the importance of breastfeeding education, support, and resources.

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It's data, this 26-day of August. It's my honor to be able to present this proclamation.

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Good evening, Mayor, council members, and staff. My name is Marissa Reno, so, and I'm the

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WIC program administrator with CAPKM. Thank you for recognizing national breastfeeding

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and for joining us in celebrating the benefits of breastfeeding for mothers, babies, families, and our community.

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National breastfeeding month reminds us of the important role breastfeeding plays in supporting the health

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and well-being of both mothers and babies. The American Academy of Pediatric recommends breastfeeding exclusively for the first six months

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and continuing breastfeeding alongside solid foods through age two and beyond.

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It is also a time to recognize the incredible efforts of mothers who often through sleepless nights and busy days remain committed to nourishing their babies and giving them the healthiest possible start in life.

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Their dedication, perseverance and love deserve to be celebrated and supported.

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Today, I am honored to stand alongside our partners from Clinica, Sierra Vista, Baby Cafe,

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and the Kernan County breastfeeding coalition as we work together to support and power

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and advocate for breastfeeding families throughout Baker's field.

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Thank you again for your recognition and commitment to the health of our community.

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At this time, I would like to invite Reva to share a few remarks.

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Thank you, Marissa.

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So, my name is Reva.

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and IBCLC and the co-chair for the current county breastfeeding coalition. Our coalition brings

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together community partners to provide breastfeeding education, lactation support, resources,

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outreach events, and advocacy. Through compassionate support and collaboration, we empower

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parents to reach their breastfeeding goals while promoting the message that breastfeeding is natural

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and important.

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This world, this 2026 world breastfeeding month theme is rise, strengthen with works.

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Together we're strengthening families, educating and creating healthier beginnings for

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all of Kern County, and I'm going to pass it over to Mary.

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Good evening, everybody.

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My name is Mary Stanley, my name is Mary Stanley, I'm speaking to you on behalf of Baby

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We are a non-profit 501C organization providing cost-free professional breastfeeding support to our community and beyond.

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It is imperative that we recognize breastfeeding is a biological norm and create an environmental culture that makes it easier for mothers to breastfeed in public, breastfeed their babies in public and have access to breastfeeding support is needed.

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Multiple health care organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics,

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who, which is the World Health Organization, recommend exclusive breastfeeding for six months

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and continue breastfeeding for two years as complementary foods are added, and you just heard that.

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Increasing breastfeeding rates is a public health issue.

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The more babies that are breastfed and the longer they feed at breast, they healthier the community.

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is there are many, many health care benefits

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to both mothers and babies.

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Thank you for your consideration of recognizing August,

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2026, this world breastfeeding month,

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and improving this proclamation.

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And I'm going to introduce, I think it's Monica.

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Is that right?

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Okay, there we go.

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Thank you, man.

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You're welcome.

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My name is Monica de Los Santos.

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I am the breastfeeding coordinator

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with Clonica Seravista.

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Breastfeeding is one of the first and most powerful gifts the parent can give their child.

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In current county breastfeeding support helps families build a healthier future by improving outcomes for babies and parents alike.

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When we promote, protect and support breastfeeding, we strengthen not only individual families, but our entire community.

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Together, we are investing in the health, well-being, and success of future generations.

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Thank you.

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2, 3,

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then we'll clear it next item, please.

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Presentations item 4, B, Proclamation 2,

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Jacell Guerrero, President and Claudia Guerrero, Vice President of GG, the Warrior, declaring childhood cancer

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awareness month in Bakersfield during September 2026. Colleagues childhood cancers, one of the leading

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causes of death for children in the United States. Each year, nearly 16,000 children

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between birth and 19 years of age are diagnosed with cancer. Every three minutes, a family

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hears the devastating words that their child has been diagnosed with cancer. It's my honor

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to read this proclamation. Whereas cancer knows no boundaries affecting all ethnic and social

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economic groups and whereas increase awareness and research will help educate the public on early

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diagnosis and provide readily accessible clinical care to patients in need and whereas dedicated

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health professional agencies and organizations have made it their mission to help children

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with cancer and provide educational emotional and financial support to their families and whereas

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Children deserve the chance to dream big, discover new interests, and live to their absolute potential

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while fighting the disease.

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Now, therefore, I, Karen Gomez, the City of Bakersfield, do hereby proclaim September

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2026 as childhood cancer awareness month in our city and urge all residents to join the

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city in reaffirming our commitment to fighting childhood cancer, dated this 26 day of August.

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Judy, I know you've been through some, sorry, I mean, you've been through some challenging

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times with, with, Judy and all, and so inviting you now to office them.

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Thank you so much for your support.

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Good evening Mayor, go members of the city, community leader, friends, and everyone else who's

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here today.

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Thank you, Mayor, go for recognized in September as Childhood Cancer Awareness Month.

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This parking lot means so much to our family and to every family who has heard the words,

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your child has cancer. For our family, childhood cancer isn't just a cause, it's our story.

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On February 14th of 2019, our world changed when our daughter Gigi was diagnosed with leukemia.

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Gigi spent two and a half years going through intense treatment. There were difficult days, scary days,

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and days where we simply had to take things one day at a time. But through it all, Gigi showed us

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what strength, courage and faith looks like. Today I am very grateful to say that Gigi is a childhood

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cancer survivor. As proud as I am to watch your move forward, I also know that her story is only

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one. Their children currently fighting cancer, family sitting in a hospital room, and parents

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praying for the same outcome that we were blessed to receive. That is why our awareness matters.

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September gives us an opportunity to make childhood cancer visible, to work gold, to talk about it,

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to support research, and to support the families and most importantly to make sure these children

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are never forgotten.

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Gold represents childhood cancer awareness,

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but to me it also represents hope.

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DJ is living proof that there can be a life

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after childhood diagnosis.

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Her journey has inspired our family

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to turn experience into a purpose

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and to continue advocating for the children

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and families affected by cancer.

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So this September, I ask everyone to go gold with us

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not just for every child fighting,

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every survivor and every family

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who has walked the journey.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much for using your voice, Fiji's voice, and we're proud of presenting.

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We're now moving on to public statements.

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In keeping with Council's resolution, the public statements portion is divided into two

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periods.

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There's a period for items listed on the meeting agenda, and items not on the meeting agenda.

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Additionally, pursuant to changes in state law, the City Council will now accept public

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statements via phone and in person.

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Statements for items listed on tonight's agenda are given a two-minute time limit, 10 minutes

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for participants by phone, and 10 minutes for person in-person participants, 20 minutes total per agenda item.

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The consent calendar is a whole constitutes one agenda item.

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Statements regarding items not listed on the agenda are given a two-minute time limit,

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10 minutes for participants by phone, and 10 minutes for in-person participants, 20 minutes total.

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If you have written comments that are longer than your verbal statement, give them to the clerk who

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give copies to the council. If you're here to make a public statement, please register using

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the kiosk in the back of the chambers where you entered staff or available to assist if needed.

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We ask that you select whether you're here to speak in an item listed on tonight's agenda

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or in a matter not on the agenda. Speakers who do not identify specific agenda item will be

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presumed speakers for the non-agenda portion and will be called during the non-agenda portion

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the meeting. If you're here on consent calendar, public hearing item 7A or 7B or public hearing

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item 8A, that's the diamond farming company on vesting tentative track map appeal. Now is

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not the time to speak. You will be given an opportunity to speak when those items are called

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later in the meeting. Mental clerk, do we have any public speakers for items not listed on the agenda?

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Margo, we have received four requests to speak by phone, and 21 requests to speak in person.

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We will take the phone speakers first. There are only two by phone currently connected.

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The first speaker will be Alejandra Garcia.

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And as you can tell by that

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At number of speakers, we're going to run out of time, so I would ask that you make your comments

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succinctly, and we'll try to get in as many people as possible. Also, this is only our third

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time using this new system, and so if we have a few challenges, we're just going to give

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each other a great sign, and I hope you'll do that also. Madam Clerk, first speaker, please.

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to cost baby sales, including any baby sales to build out here,

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save your neighborhood.

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We're here tonight because we want the setting to succeed in creating a general

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plan that works for every part of the baby, so not just the people.

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We agree with the data

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that's pretty natural

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to 20 years each

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week.

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To make this possible,

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it stands as long as

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it technicals up in a

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you, Ms. Garcia.

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Next speaker, please.

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Madam Clerk.

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Dyer.

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The star.

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Since then, that committee has been being twice, but has yet to approach the topic of

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block.

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Meanwhile, we need to address things.

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We also need to count all that one day and over 50 people showed up to learn more about

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this technology and to share their own concerns.

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City Council member may have five mayors staff and the big so-called

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department were notably absent from this generative and informative discussion.

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In fact, instead of engaging in direct dialogue with us,

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BPD has been busy taking shots that are concerned in the media.

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And in some cases, it has given them information

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that directly contradicts what they have told us.

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BPD allegedly has a call to be requiring officers

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to include case numbers and false database queries.

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And yet, the long we've received,

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show many entities that lack

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to closely do the required information.

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According to this kind of happy,

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the Department regularly audited database purchase.

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But when we submitted a CPRA request,

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we were told that no such audit was that the public deserves transparency, accountability, and

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a voice as to what the biggest building police department and the city uses to monitor us.

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In our town hall after we freeze like constituents, one of their voices heard. Will you live in?

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Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Dyer. Next speaker, please just a reminder, applause is not allowed

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other than during the presentation's portion. We know that you're passionate, but we just asked

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that you be respectful. Thank you.

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Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.

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Council member Gonzalez.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Mr. Cleg, if I can't, I want to make a

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full night that we reach out to Ms. Dyer,

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and have a conversation.

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I believe I made a referral over a year ago regarding

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the use of lock systems and the protocols.

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The should be established.

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I think it's important that we address this concern with our community members and have this conversation with them.

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I am sorry Mr. I didn't I wasn't aware of this community meeting and I'm sorry I missed it but

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would hope that the city manager can have a conversation with these community members.

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Thanks.

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Thank you. Can some of you can sell us Madam City Attorney next speaker please.

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Mayor, go, we're moving on to the in-person speakers next.

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The first speaker is Denise, Gary Pandel.

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Good evening.

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Denise, Gary Pandel, thank you very much.

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I appreciate the opportunity to be here.

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Thank you.

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I want to raise the issue of the rule of law resolution.

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I'm asking tonight that it be brought before you on the agenda

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and there be an up and down vote.

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what is it concerned? The resolution, the rule of law resolution for the public who doesn't know,

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has to do with the issue of sanctuary city status. I think it's very concerning

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that you're hiding behind, I believe, political considerations, as opposed to not putting it on

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the agenda and having an up and down vote. I remind all of you that you are elected to be

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representatives within a constitutional republic, and therefore have the duty under the rule

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of law to respect and honor the constitutional clause in Article 6 that goes to the

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supremacy clause.

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The supremacy clause makes clear that federal law and constitutional law Trump or take

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preceded under local or state law.

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Therefore, since you all took an oath to uphold the Constitution,

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you're holding a constitutional trust as an office holder.

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And that constitutional trust means that you have a responsibility

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above all else to put the protection and safety

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of every individual in the community, and their property, first and

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foremost, is part of our declaration of independence, is part of what our

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founding father said in the Declaration of Independence when he wrote, that we are

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all given in a human rights and among these are the right to life, and

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liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which actually refers to the

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to virtue. So this is part of what's woven into our constitution and it's a critical that

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you put the rule of law on the agenda and have an upper down vote. Thank you. If not,

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Next speaker, please.

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Welcome, please introduce yourself. Good afternoon. My name is Natalie Santamaria. I am a promotora, and I'm here on

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representation of my organization, Bicianic and Promiso. I'm here to talk about the general plan and to make

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a two-request. One is that in support of inviting the city-of-acre show to collaborate with the

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coalition that's being formed to do community forums so that we can allow community members

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especially those that are monolingo and Spanish to understand what the general plan is,

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the draft was being proposed and have an opportunity to have some input. Again, we're willing to

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to work with the city. I know we've been very successful in the past, so I hope that this

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leads to that collaboration and having creating those spaces especially in East Baker's show.

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With that, I will also like to request that an environmental justice chapter be allocated.

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I know it's included some environmental justice, it's included in the quality of life.

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However, linked to SP, Senate Bill 1,000, we are asking that an environmental justice chapter stand

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alone be created.

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There's a lot of this advantages as you've read between the East and the West and the

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along with Valley Fever and a lot of that is due to the infrastructure and historical decisions

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that have been made.

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So again, we look forward to continuing the conversation and the collaboration with the

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cities so that we can create this forums and we can also look to a way of having an

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environmental justice chapter stand along for this general plan.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Santa Maria.

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A clear next speaker, please.

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Thank you, good evening Mayor and city council members.

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My name is Abby Power.

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I work a leadership council for justice and accountability.

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And the comments I'm sharing tonight reflect feedback from community members

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and fellow organizations.

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I would just like to ask those who are supporting our comments to please stand

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so that the city council can see all of your support.

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And so what I wanted to show is a map of disadvantaged communities in Baker's field.

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If you look at that map, you'll see that almost all of East Baker's fields

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communities are designated as disadvantaged. According to coronavirus screen, many of these communities

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also face a pollution burden that is higher than 90% of all census tracks in the state.

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You'll also see that there are very few disadvantaged communities on the west side of the city.

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This map displays what many of you already know that the city's lower income communities

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and communities of color face a disproportionate pollution burden in Bakersfield.

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But what is the reality of facing a pollution burden this high?

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It contributes to worse health outcomes and lower life expectancy.

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According to a map in the city's existing conditions report, the majority of residents of East

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Bakersfield have a life expectancy that's between 57 to 78 years, which compares to a

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life expectancy for residents of West Bakersfield that is on average between 78 to 97 years,

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which is a huge difference.

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As we 1000 requires that the general plan contains an environmental justice element or policies

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integrated throughout all other elements.

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The city's current general plan does neither, it includes a quality of life chapter, which states

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it contains many of the planned EJ policies, but this is not a dedicated EJ element and

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EJ policies are not woven throughout all other chapters.

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The general plan also does not take enough meaningful action to reduce the unique and compounded

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health risks faced by disadvantaged communities, which SB 1000 requires.

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So, we are asking the city to show a commitment to reversing the harm of previous planning decisions

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by creating a standalone environmental justice element that thoroughly addresses all components

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of SB 1000.

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We would also like the city to conduct bilingual community workshops as participation and feedback is crucial to creating policies that address the needs of disadvantaged communities, which is a requirement of SV1000.

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Soly publishing a technical document on the website does not do enough to facilitate resident input, and it has not been published in any language other than English. Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Parr.

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Then, click next speaker, please.

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Rod.

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Guys?

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Thank you.

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Oh, thank you.

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Good evening, City Council.

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After July 15, my name is Rod.

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Guys, G-U-I-C-E out of in Southwest Bakersfield,

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and a resident, so proud to be here.

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After July 15, City Council meeting,

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three council members made calls for sanctuary city policy,

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and a truth act for them.

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In response, at the August 5 meeting,

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I was proud to submit a resolution by Dr. Andrew O'Fraiser to designate Baker's field

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a rule of law city. And I urge the Council to act on it. Unfortunately, there's been no

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action. And this is this is a little disappointing. And I don't know where sanctuary city policies

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stand or proposals stand, and then they might come back. So I'm here today to urge the Council

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to introduce the rule of law city resolution. Adopting this resolution is your opportunity

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to produce something tangible. It avoids the waste of time money and resources that a truth

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that forum would incur. It mitigates the accelerating cost of sustaining a growing population

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of foreign nationals. A rule of law city resolution would also show that we honor our veterans

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who fought to provide what we have, that we honor everyone who legally became citizens,

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that we uphold federal law, and that we align with other California cities who had the courage

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to oppose sanctuary city policy, such as Santa Clarita, Corona, Huntington Beach, and more,

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as well as cities in Texas, Florida, and Iowa. America is a nation of law, and most citizens

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agree to support, defend, and obey the law. This is your opportunity to show the citizens

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that you stand with us. President Harry Truman said progress occurs when courageous,

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skillful leaders seize the opportunity to change things for the better. This is the opportunity.

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I urge one or more of you to please stand and champion the Rule of Law City Resolution.

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We, the people, are not going away.

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Thank you for your service to our community.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Guys.

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Next speaker, please.

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Reverend Dr. Angel Frazier.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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My understanding that you all have a copy of the rule of law.

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Mayor City Council members.

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Thank you.

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My name is Reverend Angela Frazier.

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Thank you, Council members, Zach, for your previous actions regarding the putting or

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tabling of the Sanctuary policy.

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We're to say it when I play.

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Hey basketball and Germany, it was a good news. And it means enough is enough. Current and former city and state elected officials

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have confirmed that a table issue may be reconsidered or resurrected later. Adopting a rule of law resolution can help prevent that sanctuary city proposal from ever returning.

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have we moved so far away from the fundamental principles of our Constitution that we can no

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longer stomach the idea of the rule of law. The Constitution and your oath of offers must

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guide your action anything less undermines them both. I ask the City Council to place the rule of

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on the agenda for an up-and-down vote.

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Thank you for your consideration.

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Thank you, Reverend Frazier.

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Next speaker, please.

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Lytian Andrade Kapilino.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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When I start with this mayor, go and city council members.

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My name is Lytian Andrade Kapilino.

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I'm a resident of Southwest Bakersfield, Ward 6.

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volunteer with leadership council for justice and accountability among other organizations,

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social advocate and proud daughter and granddaughter of immigrants. I'm here tonight

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to speak to you about the Bakersville General Plan. Something I love about this city

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is the joy we have in coming together in community. The countless events around the

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city, the way we show up to support each other and the hope we have for a healthier

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and more beautiful Bakersfield. When we think of beautiful cities, there are a few

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things that instantly come to mind, trees, fresh air,

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walkable areas and places together in community.

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That is the vision I have for Bakersfield.

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Clean air is a right, not something earned.

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The disproportionate rates of pollution

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in the disadvantaged areas of Bakersfield

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is the deep concern and to be taken seriously.

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Environmental and respiratory concerns

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are leaders of health issues in Bakersfield.

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Air pollutants lead to health issues

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such as pneumonia, asthma, heart disease, lung cancer, and more.

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The general plan must include actions to appropriately zone the city and reduce harmful

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pollutants as outlined in SB 1000.

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SB 1000 is the law requiring that the general plan in cities with disadvantaged communities

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in to reduce harmful pollutants associated with health risks.

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I ask the city to commit to including a standalone environmental justice element in the

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general plan that thoroughly and clearly addresses the components of SB 1000 as has been done by

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other cities leading the way to reverse the harm and disadvantaged communities. I was here a few

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weeks ago with the asked to actively engage with the community. I thank you for extending the

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date for community comment. However, at this time we are still waiting for Spanish and Pujompy translations

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and active community workshops and engagement. It is also a requirement of the plan to be transparent

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an include community feedback. I ask that the bilingual workshops are held in the disadvantaged

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communities around Bakersville so that all residents can provide feedback and actively

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participate. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Andrade Keppelino.

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Council member Gonzalez.

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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you so much for your comments tonight. And I just want to thank

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all of the community members who have joined us this evening to talk about the general plan

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to offer up some of your ideas. I need to do some research on some of this. But I do want

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say a couple things. One is there was a map that was presented tonight and we did not

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get an opportunity to review that map. So if you will please bring it to the city

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clerks so that they may make copies. I think we do have copies perfect because I would

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like to review that map and respect the fact that you prepared that for us and I

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think the full council should be able to review that. Thank you so much. The other

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thing is I do think that we ought to prepare documents in multiple languages, including Spanish

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and Punjabi.

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And so I hope that we can work towards that goal and ensure that future outreach meetings

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are bilingual or in some cases, trilingual so that we can reach out and have meaningful conversations

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with many of our stakeholders.

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But as somebody who's been working in East Baker's field,

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I'm trying to revitalize the East side for 20 years now,

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you know, this is a big passion of mine,

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and something that's dear to my heart,

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and would like to see many more East Baker-Slow residents

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and families participate in this process

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as we look towards the future of our city.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, councilmember.

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Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.

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House, Valenti,

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welcome, please introduce yourself.

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Hello, my name is Klaus Flaney. Nice to see you guys.

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I wanted to address concerns I had with the Falk cameras at all over the city.

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I'm not necessarily anti-pleased, but with my experience growing up in Biggestfield,

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I do not trust the information and master relance will be used ethically by our law enforcement and officials.

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We're already seeing an example of nationwide of law enforcement using information recorded by Falk cameras,

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to track and stock personal contacts,

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and I don't know how I can trust Baker's field

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to be any different than the other examples.

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Those in favor of the FWC,

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cameras claim it to be an extension of their patrolling,

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but it does so at the expense of the public's right for privacy.

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Statements such as you're fine if you're not having

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nothing to hide or as long as you aren't doing anything wrong,

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you'll be fine or not encouraging when our government

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is actively changing what is considered wrong and unacceptable.

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And in regard to our officials and law enforcement

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and saying flood cameras have helped them solve the

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equivalent of crimes hearing this is not encouraging statements

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like this make our enforcement sound incompetent and they can't

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do the job without the use of master valence that are being pushed

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on us or the use of AI.

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Once again, I'm not necessarily anti-police but I do appreciate seeing if

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our officials and law enforcement could develop is fine against

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flood cameras moving forward.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Well, please introduce yourself.

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Good evening.

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My name is Maria Stalkup.

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I'm here to talk about Float cameras.

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I've lived in Bakerfield for almost 20 years,

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as a private citizen, and I believe that still means something.

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I am a private person.

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I raised both of my sons here.

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Worked here and kept to myself for these 20 years.

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This is the first time I've ever been to a city council meeting,

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but I felt compelled to be here because of this issue.

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I've never been arrested, and I have a clean background.

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So why must I be surveilled by Float cameras?

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When I drive around I see endless amounts of cyber junk cluttering in our street corners and parking lot.

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I thought that I was the only one who didn't understand why these were here. That isn't until I started reading about flock. It turns out that people all over the country are wondering the same things that I am. Where did these cameras come from and why?

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In growing numbers, members of the public are rejecting the technology. Some are taking the time to come to city council meetings like this one. Some are meeting to discuss with one another and many are discussing it online. Here are some quotes from people within my own neighborhood of Northwest Bakersfield from our neighborhood app.

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My truck was stolen 41 days ago from the parking lot, home depot and rose to highway, I failed to report immediately and my truck still has not been located just saying these flat cameras are not all that great.

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The flat cameras aren't really going to help normal people, they're to protect businesses and sell your location data.

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These flat cameras are BS. These are looking for expired registrations.

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I think that the lawsuits will come from this will cost us far more than the benefit from them.

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What does Flock stand for makes me think we are a bunch of sheep that need to be herded?

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These are the quotes that I've received from this app.

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Overall, our community members do not seem to understand what Flock cameras are for.

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Why would they?

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They were put into place without prior approval and no oversight or voting on the matter.

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At the very least, why is the search data not being audited by the city?

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How are we to trust our local law enforcement with the information they are collecting when we have one of the most corrupt?

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And it is documented police forces in the country.

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And until this corruption is brought under control, we cannot justify mass surveillance like this.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Stalkov.

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Madam Clerk.

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Next speaker, please.

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Brandon Bane.

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Please introduce yourself.

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Hello, I'm Brandon Bane.

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I'm here to talk about Float Cameras in the City of Big Soul.

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Since 2024, 155, 150 cases of misuse of Float Cameras have been noted.

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You state countrywide by law enforcement and non law enforcement individuals mainly use the stock expartners current partners and just random individuals

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In 2025 Johnson Johnson County Sheriff's Department Texas used

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Roughly

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care in an abortion and in another state where health that is illegal. But that is legal.

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These cameras are invasions of privacy. They are down their harassment. Many of us feel like we

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are being constantly harassed. We feel like we're being surveilled. In the words of Benjamin Franklin,

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those who are willing to sell a little bit of their freedom for a little bit of safety deserve

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and I ask you please to review and honestly end our contract with Flock and to remove these cameras as soon as possible.

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Please and thank you.

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Thank you Mr. Payne.

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And Madam City Clerk, our final speaker.

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Jason Sipriano.

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Welcome.

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Please introduce yourself.

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Good evening.

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My name is Jason Sipriano.

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Yesterday August 25th at Norris Middle School dismissal,

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officer, Chrisman, ID-1199, cited me for parking behind a line of other parents,

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while picking up my son. Before she even spoke to me, drivers who saw

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parking enforcement arrive began erratically accelerating through the parking

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full of children and effort to get away from her. I followed an internal

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fairs complaint, and I'm contesting the ticket, but that's not what I'm here

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about. I'm asking for a written answer from the city manager and the police

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chief on whether Bakersville Police Department has a policy governing parking

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enforcement during active school, this missile

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while children are walking between vehicles.

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Because yesterday, the way that enforcement was being

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conducted didn't make this missile any safer.

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It caused panic drivers to accelerate through

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which should have through an area full of children.

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And it also turned, but it should have been a normal

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parent pick up into a police matter.

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That's what I'm asking the city to examine.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Tupurana.

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And so this ends this portion of our meeting.

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this is the allotted time you're welcome for those of you who didn't get a chance to speak

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to come back at other meetings to write to us, but thank you for being here to participate

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in medical clerk.

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Do we have any public speakers regarding items listed on tonight's agenda?

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And if you're here to speak on items listed under consent calendar item six deferred business

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item 10A, that's the interfund loan or new business item 11A, clean city special project

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Funds now is the time to speak and the clerical call for speech.

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I was 11 A and I didn't tell them it was 11 A.

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Thank you. So go ahead and sit down.

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For those of you who would like to leave at this point this would be the right time to leave.

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And so we'll just give our guests a moment to leave.

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And then just for the city clerk, if you heard Mr.

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or a logist, it's for 11A.

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Mayor Go, we have received 12 requests to speak

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on the consent calendar, one by phone, and 11 in person.

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And then we've received four requests to speak.

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I apologize five requests to speak on new business item,

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11A, one by phone, and three in person.

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The first, it looks like the individual who signed up

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speak by phone has not connected, we will start with the in-person speakers, or the consent calendar.

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The first speaker is Karina Funes.

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Well, please introduce yourself.

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Good evening, honorable mayor, and members of the Bakersville City Council.

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My name is Karina Funes, and I am the Policy Manager at Blue Zones Project Bakersfield.

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On behalf of Blue Zones Project Bakersfield, I want to express our sincere appreciation to

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city of Bakersfield for taking this important step towards creating healthier, safer, and

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more welcoming parks for our community by moving towards smoke free parks. We are grateful for

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the city's leadership and for the collaboration with the city manager's office, city attorney's

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office and our city council members. Creating smoke free parks is an important investment in the

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health and well-being of Bakersfield residents, families and visitors and we are excited to see our

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city take this step. In 2024, Bluesons Project Bakersfield began conducting tobacco litter

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parked throughout Bakersfield.

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Unfortunately, we found tobacco litter at every park we visited

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and observed adults smoking in front of children.

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There is not a single park across any of the seven

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wars that was immune to tobacco litter.

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We frequently found the most litter around ventures, picnic tables, and parking lots.

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Because of what we have seen firsthand through these cleanups, we do have one small recommendation that we believe could help strengthen the policy and ensure its intent is clear.

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We respectfully ask that parking lots be explicitly included in the language, or that including be changed to including but not limited to.

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This would help ensure that smoke free protections apply consistently throughout our parks and that areas such as parking lots are not unintentionally left open to interpretation.

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However, we want to emphasize that this recommendation comes from a place of support for the policy and appreciation for the work the city has already done.

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We are very excited about the direction the city is taking and are grateful to see Baker's moving towards healthier smoke free public places.

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We look forward to continuing to work alongside the City to make Bakers with a healthier, safer community where we can all live longer better.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Punez.

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Madam Clerk, next speaker, please.

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Crystal Burgess.

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Welcome, please introduce yourself.

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Good evening, Mayor Go, council members, and city staff.

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My name is Crystal Burgess.

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I work in tobacco prevention education.

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I advise a youth coalition that advocates against tobacco and serve as a member of the tobacco free coalition of current county.

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I want to be transparent about that connection, but tonight, I also want to speak from personal experience as a mom and as a family who spends a lot of time in Bakersfield Parks.

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I've been a mom for over 10 years, and our family uses parks for birthdays, tea ball, walks, community events, and just spending time together.

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I actually have more than 500 pictures of our family at Bakersfield Parks. I don't smoke, but my children can still encounter secondhand smoke and tobacco product waste when we're enjoying these spaces.

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The issue is especially personal to me because a few years ago my daughter stood here in this very room as an underage young person who purchased the vape.

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She came here and advocated for a stronger tobacco retail protection protections and we are grateful that the city ultimately passed the tobacco retail license.

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She leaves for UC Davis next week and I know she would be proud to see your hometown continue that work by making sidewalks athletic fields playgrounds recreational areas and public buildings within parks smoke free.

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I also ask the Council to consider including parking lots and other areas associated with these facilities to not leave the policy open for interpretation.

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We see a lot of smoking and tobacco litter in those areas as well.

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Please also consider clear signage and cessation resources for residents.

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So it residents understand the change and people who notice tobacco products where they can find support.

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This isn't about judging people who smoke, it's about making sure families can enjoy public spaces without exposure to smoke.

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And to back away, if we can spend hours at a restaurant or sports arena without smoking, I believe we can do the same at our parks.

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Thank you for taking this important step towards health and your cleaner parks for Bakersville families and future generations.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Berges.

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And all the best to you as you go to UC Davis, young lady.

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Next speaker, please.

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Bernardo Ochoa.

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Please introduce yourself.

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Good evening, Mariko, city council and city staff.

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I'm here tonight as a chair of the Tobacco Freak Coalition of Current County.

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On behalf of our coalition, I would like to sincerely thank the Bakerfield City Council

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in the City Stafford considering this amendment to Section 125650, which could prohibit smoking

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in all areas of public parks. This has surely been a collaborative effort involving our community,

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multiple agencies across Current County, and our coalition partners who care deeply about the places

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our families gather in play. Some of our first conversations regarding the need for

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smoke-free parks take place with council member Eric Arias. As a long-time supporter of

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our work, coalition does, there are conversations at the safe and healthy neighborhood

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committee. We sincerely thank you. We are, we encourage to see our community voices reflected

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today's proposed amendments and reflecting cities ongoing commitment creating a healthier,

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safer, and clear bakers field. So our children, seniors, and families are free from exposure

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to second-hand smoke. We strongly support this proposed amendments. Education and awareness are essential

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01:05:00,030 --> 01:05:05,770
to successful implementation and signage can help ensure that these changes are understood and

683
01:05:05,770 --> 01:05:07,090
and a brace by our community.

684
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:11,070
We are proud to stand alongside the City of Bakersfield

685
01:05:11,070 --> 01:05:13,670
as a longstanding partner in this work.

686
01:05:13,830 --> 01:05:15,770
The tobacco free coalition of current county

687
01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:18,730
is committed to supporting the public education,

688
01:05:19,310 --> 01:05:21,950
social media outreach, and community awareness efforts.

689
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:24,570
Thank you for your leadership, your partnership,

690
01:05:25,090 --> 01:05:28,150
and your commitment to making biggest field

691
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:29,490
a healthier, beautiful community.

692
01:05:30,090 --> 01:05:30,550
Thank you for your time.

693
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:31,630
Thank you, Mr. Chowa.

694
01:05:31,810 --> 01:05:34,390
And I'd love to want to hear for the council.

695
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:38,850
Thank you, and our City Clerk will get that and get it out to the council.

696
01:05:39,350 --> 01:05:40,650
But a clerk next speaker, please.

697
01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:36,870
Union, the North of the Domingo,

698
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:39,590
to manage the Lune,

699
01:06:39,790 --> 01:06:41,170
so you can disparate in our team.

700
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:44,670
My office in the 60s,

701
01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:45,590
Junior Avenue,

702
01:06:45,690 --> 01:06:46,710
Queen Pactado,

703
01:06:47,130 --> 01:06:48,310
the House,

704
01:06:48,990 --> 01:06:50,190
we call it the Police.

705
01:06:50,790 --> 01:06:51,910
The House of the Police,

706
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:52,390
the House of the Police,

707
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:53,550
the Vickers, and the V26,

708
01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:54,730
one, six, eight,

709
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:57,210
seven, six, zero.

710
01:06:57,930 --> 01:06:59,110
We call it the Police

711
01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:01,570
to respond tomorrow.

712
01:07:03,610 --> 01:07:06,730
Mircoles, entre las diez de la mañana, las cinco.

713
01:07:07,330 --> 01:07:12,490
Hoy, eso es a trescientos pies del novescientos uno,

714
01:07:12,850 --> 01:07:15,710
y unio en la abenio, en la histórica, y unio,

715
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:17,450
abenio en la ruta noventa y nueve.

716
01:07:19,090 --> 01:07:24,150
Los miembros, los mismos trescientos pies que caminan clientes niños

717
01:07:24,730 --> 01:07:28,190
a diario, no estamos en contra de la ayuda de ayudar,

718
01:07:28,270 --> 01:07:29,970
estamos por para protegernos.

719
01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:47,460
¿Solicito? Una tolerancia 0 tolerancia en union hábine, 24 horas, los 7 días de la semana. 2, el protocolo de respuesta rápida.

720
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:52,580
3, no a campar, me rodear, aquí en tus pies,

721
01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:57,080
4, una junta de seguridad antes aprobada.

722
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,220
Pavor, aquí está el expediente que yo sometía el día de ayer

723
01:08:02,220 --> 01:08:08,420
a las 3.48, por favor, estoy voy a entregar que se agregue

724
01:08:08,420 --> 01:08:11,680
el anexo e al expediente que entreguía el día de ayer,

725
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:13,220
es todo, muchas gracias.

726
01:08:13,220 --> 01:08:16,660
Gracias, y ahora en Topritoro, ¿sí?

727
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,060
¿Y por qué no se nos lo salí?

728
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:51,410
de Navinu was hit.

729
01:08:51,610 --> 01:08:52,730
It was impacted.

730
01:08:53,670 --> 01:08:56,290
And we did call Bacresville Police Department.

731
01:08:56,890 --> 01:09:02,190
The case number is 26-168-760.

732
01:09:02,770 --> 01:09:04,910
We did call the police department,

733
01:09:04,910 --> 01:09:07,670
and they will respond to tomorrow.

734
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:12,050
Wednesday between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m.

735
01:09:12,290 --> 01:09:12,910
Today,

736
01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:19,430
I am here to say that this was at 300 free from 901,

737
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:29,550
y un día de la serie de posibilidad de la serie de monta y un día de las personas que

738
01:09:29,550 --> 01:09:30,550
siempre hay que ver.

739
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:33,990
Hay una nueva vida, y una vida, y una vida, y una vida.

740
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:35,510
Así que, hay que ver todo el tiempo, y la que es muy interesante.

741
01:09:36,970 --> 01:09:41,130
Así que, hay que ver todo el tiempo, y como yo me voy a ir a estar en la escuela

742
01:09:41,130 --> 01:09:44,970
y la semana de la semana, y la semana de los días de 24 horas.

743
01:09:45,790 --> 01:09:48,730
24 hrs. de 7 días a la week.

744
01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:52,470
2, I asked for rapid response protocol.

745
01:09:53,350 --> 01:09:57,050
3, note camping or loitering within 500 feet.

746
01:09:58,230 --> 01:10:02,770
4, a public safety meeting before approval.

747
01:10:04,050 --> 01:10:09,970
Please, I do have my file here that I did submit yesterday at 348 p.m.

748
01:10:09,970 --> 01:10:10,970
Gracias Carolina,

749
01:10:10,970 --> 01:10:13,510
and I ask that you also

750
01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:16,590
add annexE to the photo

751
01:10:16,590 --> 01:10:18,690
that I did submit yesterday thank

752
01:10:18,690 --> 01:10:19,850
you.

753
01:10:19,850 --> 01:10:21,250
Thank you miss Laf Final

754
01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:24,520
el

755
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:24,680
gentlemen.

756
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,020
¿Qué puedo decir?

757
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:26,280
thank you.

758
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,760
and thank you miss Laf Final

759
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,140
Tell some American sauce.

760
01:10:29,260 --> 01:10:30,780
Thank you Mayor.

761
01:10:30,780 --> 01:10:40,060
And thank you miss Laf Final

762
01:10:40,060 --> 01:10:41,860
Mientras he tenido un poco de idea,

763
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,480
incluso creo que esta es una de las noches de 0.000 tonas en el Unión Áveno.

764
01:10:46,540 --> 01:10:48,340
Hay que dejar en la righto de la reacción.

765
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,880
Tenemos BPD, selfo,

766
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:52,600
el 31 de un tiempo sale.

767
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:58,540
No había que hacer un poco de trabajo de donación.

768
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:00,880
Y a quienes hubo algo para que han unido,

769
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,360
pero creo que es un poco de un poco de un tiempo de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco de un poco.

770
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,120
es algo.

771
01:11:07,860 --> 01:11:12,280
Bueno, lo que es, más que es, es que el rabía, es que la ingenuidad de un sepan en el

772
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,500
de decades.

773
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:17,020
It's taking us a poco de tiempo a ver a esto, es que es que te hace

774
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:18,000
un poco de tiempo a ver.

775
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,760
Pero, sí, no puedes mirar este trabajo.

776
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:22,880
Y yo creo que me quieres por un momento en el

777
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:23,440
investimiento.

778
01:11:23,860 --> 01:11:26,140
Yo creo que es un poco más que es la forma de

779
01:11:26,140 --> 01:11:31,340
darle a un proceso en el área de

780
01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:33,500
que estamos trabajando con algunos

781
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:34,220
privados,

782
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:34,960
los developers,

783
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,560
para hacer

784
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:37,380
los nuevos

785
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:38,400
los movimientos,

786
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:39,200
para hacer

787
01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:40,080
incluso

788
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,680
de mayor

789
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,160
super-market,

790
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:42,740
no es lo que

791
01:11:42,740 --> 01:11:43,620
no es lo que

792
01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:43,800
hay,

793
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:44,100
no es lo que

794
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:44,820
de las

795
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:46,260
las posibilidades,

796
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:46,860
pero

797
01:11:46,860 --> 01:11:47,460
tenemos que

798
01:11:47,460 --> 01:11:47,700
hacer

799
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:48,040
las cosas

800
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,300
en el background,

801
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:50,200
para hacer

802
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,600
a través de

803
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:52,020
la condición

804
01:11:52,020 --> 01:11:52,840
de Unir Avenue.

805
01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:54,600
Pero

806
01:11:55,210 --> 01:11:56,120
100% de關a

807
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:56,760
con usted,

808
01:11:56,940 --> 01:11:57,080
y

809
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,400
vamos a

810
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,960
ir a más

811
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,500
agresiva

812
01:11:59,500 --> 01:11:59,720
en

813
01:11:59,500 --> 01:11:59,820
en este

814
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:00,300
este área.

815
01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:00,660
área.

816
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:03,480
Y también quiero hablar de la descripción de la gente que nos ha llamado de la gente que se llama

817
01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:06,580
que es un gran

818
01:12:06,580 --> 01:12:08,800
que es el responsable de public safety,

819
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,160
el largo de la cordura,

820
01:12:10,420 --> 01:12:12,200
incluido BPD, code enforcement,

821
01:12:12,940 --> 01:12:14,640
y otros, que no es obvio,

822
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,300
pero también en los carreros,

823
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,000
en sus respensos,

824
01:12:18,180 --> 01:12:19,420
que usamos juntos

825
01:12:19,420 --> 01:12:21,140
de que podemos developos proáctiva

826
01:12:21,140 --> 01:12:23,140
y consistente de traduir

827
01:12:23,140 --> 01:12:25,300
a los judicires de las ciudadanas.

828
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:26,840
Y la lastima es,

829
01:12:26,980 --> 01:12:27,680
que son residentes,

830
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,600
son business owners,

831
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,900
que son people en la comunidad,

832
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:30,800
que son muy bien,

833
01:12:31,460 --> 01:12:32,920
que son familias,

834
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,460
que están en la reunión de Navidad,

835
01:12:35,460 --> 01:12:36,860
Who deserves safe neighborhoods.

836
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,420
And it's really unfortunate that there's this perception

837
01:12:41,420 --> 01:12:46,520
that unen Avenue is somewhat, you know,

838
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,140
second tier to the rest of the city.

839
01:12:49,460 --> 01:12:51,240
We have to reject that notion.

840
01:12:51,820 --> 01:12:54,240
And we ought to bring our community members together,

841
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,760
business owners, property owners, family members,

842
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,000
Let's come together and have that safety meeting.

843
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,800
The Missilevano has recommended.

844
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,420
Y vamos a hacer una conversación sobre qué podemos hacer

845
01:13:05,420 --> 01:13:09,980
colectivamente para hacer este particular cordo

846
01:13:09,980 --> 01:13:13,980
y mucho más de ello, para todos los partidos.

847
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,660
So, thank you for being good at night.

848
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:17,040
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

849
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,140
Next speaker, please.

850
01:13:34,460 --> 01:13:35,660
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

851
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,080
Denise Gary Pandell.

852
01:13:37,260 --> 01:13:39,600
Just real quick, the reason why I came up

853
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,360
to speak on this issue, with respect to the minutes,

854
01:13:42,580 --> 01:13:44,880
is because there was a mistake made

855
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,780
con la bicicleta, con respecto a las minas.

856
01:13:49,340 --> 01:13:51,840
Y, de que, claro, fue apuntado a que se ha apuntado,

857
01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:53,660
se ha apuntado a Sanctuary City Status,

858
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:56,380
y que que se ha apuntado en el día de hoy,

859
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,100
y que se ha apuntado a hacer que el recordo era correcto,

860
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,840
y que se ha apuntado a hacer que se ha apuntado a la publica,

861
01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:05,300
como se ha apuntado antes,

862
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,440
y que es el Sanctuary City Status,

863
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,660
es el violación de 18,

864
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:14,080
con el 1132, con el federal Code.

865
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:20,340
Es también un bale de violación de la Suprema y Clause y Article 6 de Constitución,

866
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:26,280
y en un poco de la gente que fue bastante de 100, de 1000 de mertars,

867
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,660
es la de nocaína y tráfica,

868
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,240
netano,

869
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:34,180
jugas de la contiguidad de la tarea de cartelos,

870
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,420
un poco de crema,

871
01:14:37,420 --> 01:14:38,440
un poco de crema,

872
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:39,060
un poco de crema,

873
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,960
es realmente inappropriate para la de la seguridad

874
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:47,660
de la publica para la alecualización de la Lama.

875
01:14:48,420 --> 01:14:49,760
Aside from that,

876
01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:52,080
I pointed out for the record,

877
01:14:52,220 --> 01:14:56,220
during that last meeting we had on August 5th,

878
01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:59,980
that the good people in Washington, D.C. had.

879
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980
And I made an effort to provide everyone who broke the law and entered the country illegally to have $2,500 plus a free ticket back to their country of origin. And I made that clear. And I also made clear the federal grounds by the Department of Justice and the Department of Transportation that those federal grants would be withheld, and that other monies would be withheld from those cities in any state, in the Union, that embraced a saying that,

880
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:36,100
sure a city. I also made clear that it was just respectful to the people of this country who came here

881
01:15:36,580 --> 01:15:40,960
lawfully. So thank you, Ms. Garrett. You're welcome. Thank you for coming with the record.

882
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:44,340
The correction has already been made. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

883
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:47,900
City Clerk reached out to you and informed you. Thank you very much. Thank you, City Clerk.

884
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:49,760
Next speaker, please.

885
01:16:01,190 --> 01:16:04,450
Mayor, go. I just want to note that we're allowing the additional 10 minutes

886
01:16:04,450 --> 01:16:08,930
since we had no phone speakers connected?

887
01:16:09,770 --> 01:16:11,310
Yes, go ahead for today.

888
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:12,890
Natalie Santa Maria.

889
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:28,000
And just encourage all of you to be as succinct as possible.

890
01:16:30,910 --> 01:16:31,750
Hello, again,

891
01:16:33,850 --> 01:16:36,190
Natalie Santa Maria with visionic compromiso.

892
01:16:37,230 --> 01:16:43,410
And my comment is in regard to your amendment to section 12.56.050.

893
01:16:43,410 --> 01:16:49,330
Thank you for this amendment to prohibit smoking in parks.

894
01:16:49,930 --> 01:16:55,410
I am here also as part of the Tobacco Free Coalition, which you all know that most of

895
01:16:55,410 --> 01:17:01,210
you know that we've been working for many years along with other organizations to pass several

896
01:17:01,210 --> 01:17:06,670
solutions. So I'm here to thank you. I know we presented and also behalf of the promotoras

897
01:17:06,670 --> 01:17:10,190
that went to the last safe and healthy neighborhood. Some of them are here.

898
01:17:10,190 --> 01:17:14,530
Some of them work connected through phone, but I guess they couldn't just figure out the system.

899
01:17:14,730 --> 01:17:20,130
But again, thinking you in that effort, we're looking forward to looking at how enforcement is going to look.

900
01:17:20,710 --> 01:17:29,650
Some signage to in the parks will be very helpful and some education, and also including parking lots.

901
01:17:30,170 --> 01:17:38,550
Again, we're looking forward to collaborating on that education, something new arises, right in our community, and we want to be as proactive as possible.

902
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:43,730
and also want to mention that Hamat here with Grimfield walking group which you all know

903
01:17:43,730 --> 01:17:49,810
it's also looking forward to collaborating with that education in the parts that you all

904
01:17:49,810 --> 01:17:54,910
know she has a passion for that. So again, thank you and looking forward to working with you all.

905
01:17:55,010 --> 01:17:56,010
Thank you, Ms. Santa Maria.

906
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:58,670
Madam Clerk, we have additional speakers.

907
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,320
Ricardo del Hoyo.

908
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,920
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

909
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:21,160
My name is Ricardo de Hoya and I'm a proud resident of Ward 1, shout out to Council

910
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,960
Minarias, good afternoon to Mayor Go and Council members.

911
01:18:25,220 --> 01:18:31,160
Before I get into agenda item 60.2, I'd like to take a moment and think the City Council

912
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:36,700
for extending the public or March period for the 25 general plan update.

913
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:43,820
However, after a careful review of the proposal on the general plan update, something seems

914
01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:48,280
to be missing, and that's measurable change and action plans.

915
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,100
I too hope all communities can rise together,

916
01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:54,720
especially underserved communities.

917
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:56,720
You see, I grew up in Bakersfield.

918
01:18:56,860 --> 01:18:58,080
I attended local schools.

919
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,120
I graduated from Calcy Bakersfield,

920
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,960
and although much has changed,

921
01:19:04,020 --> 01:19:07,960
some areas and some statistics have not changed.

922
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:10,580
Neighborhoods in Southeast Bakersfield

923
01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:13,220
have less than 1% tree canopy shade,

924
01:19:13,220 --> 01:19:17,880
areas with severe heat exposure and lackluster infrastructure.

925
01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:22,720
This has been the case since I grew up and continues to be true today.

926
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:29,040
I applaud the resolution on approving application for the Climate Bond Grants Fund.

927
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:37,400
Yes, we need more trees in downtown, but we also need more trees outside the downtown corridor of Ward 2.

928
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:45,360
I ask to revisit the listed area for this grant application and extend, extend, coverage,

929
01:19:45,660 --> 01:19:54,060
past California Avenue, past Brunnage Avenue, past 58, past Bill Terrace, to truly amplify and

930
01:19:54,060 --> 01:20:00,880
beautify the Chester to South Chester corridor with trees, greenery, and green pedestrian

931
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:01,580
corridors.

932
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:03,660
Thank you for your time.

933
01:20:03,660 --> 01:20:05,720
Thank you, Mr. Jelphoyol.

934
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,400
I'm a clerk.

935
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:07,640
Next week of please.

936
01:20:10,060 --> 01:20:11,020
Lawrence, Salcito.

937
01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:18,720
Welcome.

938
01:20:18,860 --> 01:20:19,740
Please introduce yourself.

939
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:20,240
Hi.

940
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:21,020
Hello.

941
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,860
My name is Lawrence Salcito.

942
01:20:22,020 --> 01:20:22,320
Junior.

943
01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:24,760
I am a proud member of the Chalone Indian Nation.

944
01:20:24,860 --> 01:20:27,060
And I'm also here representing with tobacco free current.

945
01:20:27,540 --> 01:20:29,460
And my place of

946
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:30,160
alcancey,

947
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:30,880
Beckerson Americany,

948
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:31,400
health project.

949
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,520
We are here in support of the

950
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,480
Smoke Free Parks and the

951
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:37,480
ordinance that's going out.

952
01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:44,400
We do, I'm very thankful for customer artists for hearing this at the 16 healthy neighborhoods

953
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:52,660
committee, especially as a Native American tobacco is a very spiritual and traditional medicine

954
01:20:52,660 --> 01:20:53,300
for us.

955
01:20:53,580 --> 01:20:57,860
So we do want to make the distinction between traditional tobacco and commercial tobacco,

956
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:03,460
commercialized tobacco, which is the heavily processed industrialized version of it versus

957
01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:10,040
the traditional spiritual tobacco, which we use in medicine, which we use as gifts in which

958
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:10,920
we use in prayer.

959
01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:15,640
So, please make that consideration when moving forward with these more free parks.

960
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:16,380
Thank you.

961
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:17,580
Thank you, Mr. Salcito.

962
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,440
I'm going to click next speaker, please.

963
01:21:24,450 --> 01:21:25,490
Josie, Sarulo?

964
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,760
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

965
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,240
Cancel members, here, our cry.

966
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,460
My name is Josie Sarulo.

967
01:21:44,460 --> 01:21:54,580
My family owns a strip mall at 600 Union Avenue and Laticia has run a successful business there for over seven years.

968
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,820
She pays taxes, employers locals, and wants to stay.

969
01:22:00,260 --> 01:22:09,460
But the constant business interruption from the chronic offenders is forcing her at other tenants to close their doors.

970
01:22:09,460 --> 01:22:16,980
The plans for this project offers an onsite fence, but a fence does nothing for the neighborhood

971
01:22:16,980 --> 01:22:19,480
businesses within a four-block radius.

972
01:22:20,820 --> 01:22:23,620
Our area is already hurting from high crime.

973
01:22:23,620 --> 01:22:29,640
Open drug use, vandalism, fights, threats to store workers, open sex.

974
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:58,880
Threats the customers, loitering, constant storefront trouble. The list goes on and on. The city cannot just fix housing for one group of people while causing financial burden for the local businesses that pay taxes and provide local jobs or they will leave. And this will cause more empty buildings in the area where half of the stores are already shut down.

975
01:23:00,020 --> 01:23:08,630
true compassion requires balance. If you move a high risk group here, you must protect us.

976
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:17,260
We demand that the conditional use permit legally forced the developer to do eight things

977
01:23:17,260 --> 01:23:25,330
for the life of this project. First, pay for 24-7 security guard, looping our streets and

978
01:23:25,330 --> 01:23:33,170
with an affordable block radius. Second, install high definition cameras that link right to the

979
01:23:33,170 --> 01:23:40,270
police. Third, give security and police immediate power to remove trouble bankers. Fourth,

980
01:23:40,730 --> 01:23:45,910
give businesses owners fast-trust pass for them to get you time is up. Please bring your

981
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:52,910
comments to a close. Do one more sentence. Do not approve this project without securing our

982
01:23:52,910 --> 01:23:56,090
this is first. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Correl.

983
01:23:56,930 --> 01:23:58,110
Next speaker, please, Madam Clerk.

984
01:24:01,090 --> 01:24:01,890
Guadalupe, Sylva.

985
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,000
Miss Sylva? Guadalupe?

986
01:24:19,490 --> 01:24:20,650
Doesn't look like she's here.

987
01:24:20,830 --> 01:24:22,450
Would you just go on to the next person, please?

988
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:24,010
Magnus, light bar.

989
01:24:31,740 --> 01:24:32,900
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

990
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:33,400
Thank you.

991
01:24:33,460 --> 01:24:34,540
Good evening, I'm Mayor Go.

992
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:35,560
City Council members.

993
01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:37,500
My name is Magnus, light bar.

994
01:24:37,660 --> 01:24:39,140
Representing Ripple, Fibre, California.

995
01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:42,020
I'm here with our chief legal officer, Joshua Ornion.

996
01:24:42,580 --> 01:24:45,000
I just wanted to let you guys know we look forward to working with you.

997
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,200
to bring this high speed fiber optic in a net service to the underserved areas of the city.

998
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,960
And we'd like to do it in the most innovative manner as most non-invasive manner as possible.

999
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,660
And I look forward to working with you guys and thank you for your cooperation.

1000
01:25:00,180 --> 01:25:01,040
Thank you Mr. Leiper.

1001
01:25:02,340 --> 01:25:03,620
Madam Clerk, next speaker please.

1002
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:28,280
Mayors and next four speakers are in person regarding item 11A.

1003
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,680
The first speaker is Abby Power.

1004
01:25:40,090 --> 01:25:42,990
So, this is on the Clean Cities Special Project Facts.

1005
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:44,010
It was possible.

1006
01:25:44,330 --> 01:25:47,430
So sorry, I would like to give my time to the residents who are here to speak on this.

1007
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:48,250
I was just supporting.

1008
01:25:48,710 --> 01:25:51,450
So I'd like to go to the residents first.

1009
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:54,250
Well, Claire, can you call the next speaker, please?

1010
01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:55,650
Thank you.

1011
01:25:56,130 --> 01:25:57,090
Nures Torres.

1012
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:17,930
Well, thank you.

1013
01:26:18,170 --> 01:26:18,470
Well, thank you.

1014
01:26:20,110 --> 01:26:22,850
Well, thank you.

1015
01:26:22,850 --> 01:26:30,830
escuchar nuestras inquietudes y tomar en cuenta las necesidades de nuestra comunidad valoramos

1016
01:26:30,830 --> 01:26:37,650
su atención y esperamos seguir trabajando juntos para mejorar nuestra ciudad. También

1017
01:26:37,650 --> 01:26:45,570
queremos solicitar su apoyo para que los ayuden a realizar una investigación sobre unas

1018
01:26:45,570 --> 01:26:54,150
people who are inquitando nuestro vecindario hay un hombre que vive en elote que está abandonado

1019
01:26:54,150 --> 01:27:01,090
por el vecindario con una arma me gustaría programar una cita para discutir los detalles.

1020
01:27:01,270 --> 01:27:02,490
Muchas gracias.

1021
01:27:18,330 --> 01:27:21,050
an issue that we have been having in the community.

1022
01:27:21,890 --> 01:27:24,710
We've greatly value your attention in our efforts

1023
01:27:24,710 --> 01:27:26,990
to be what a better community.

1024
01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:30,190
We also want to ask for your support

1025
01:27:30,190 --> 01:27:34,490
to be able to do an investigation regarding some people

1026
01:27:34,490 --> 01:27:36,010
who are concerning our communities.

1027
01:27:36,570 --> 01:27:39,890
There is a man who lives in a lot that has been abandoned

1028
01:27:39,890 --> 01:27:41,970
by the community who has a weapon.

1029
01:27:42,530 --> 01:27:44,810
And I would like to establish a meeting

1030
01:27:44,810 --> 01:27:47,830
so that we can go over the details.

1031
01:27:48,270 --> 01:27:49,090
Thank you.

1032
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:52,530
Thank you, Ms. Torres, and Councilmember Arias.

1033
01:27:53,210 --> 01:27:53,610
Thank you, Mayor.

1034
01:27:54,290 --> 01:27:55,690
I just want to say thank you to Ms. Torres.

1035
01:27:55,790 --> 01:27:58,070
Thank you, Nudis, for everything that you do,

1036
01:27:58,290 --> 01:27:59,010
for your community.

1037
01:27:59,650 --> 01:28:02,430
I was a pleasure just a little more than a week ago

1038
01:28:02,430 --> 01:28:04,970
being out there in your neck of the woods,

1039
01:28:05,450 --> 01:28:07,650
getting to walk the community and see

1040
01:28:07,650 --> 01:28:09,590
all of the many challenges that you all are navigating.

1041
01:28:09,930 --> 01:28:13,270
And so my heart goes out to and I just want you to know

1042
01:28:13,270 --> 01:28:18,990
that we certainly hear you and we want to do right by the community, but we couldn't do that

1043
01:28:18,990 --> 01:28:19,410
without you.

1044
01:28:19,490 --> 01:28:25,890
So thank you for your advocacy and I want to like to ask, actually, our city attorney, if

1045
01:28:25,890 --> 01:28:33,650
I could get your help to reconvene our, I'll call it a task force addressing some of the

1046
01:28:33,650 --> 01:28:38,090
neighborhood level challenges and so at these Bakersfield that we get a bigger police

1047
01:28:38,090 --> 01:28:41,690
Department in the city of attorney's office together to meet with

1048
01:28:41,690 --> 01:28:45,910
no worries to talk about some of the safety challenges there.

1049
01:28:46,150 --> 01:28:47,130
Thank you.

1050
01:28:47,130 --> 01:28:48,070
Thank you, Councillor Babor.

1051
01:28:48,070 --> 01:28:48,770
Are yes.

1052
01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:50,430
Then I'll clear next speaker, please.

1053
01:28:51,610 --> 01:28:52,910
Johnny, a log is.

1054
01:29:01,550 --> 01:29:02,830
Welcome, please introduce yourself.

1055
01:29:04,170 --> 01:29:05,970
Hello, my name is Johnny Ologas.

1056
01:29:06,850 --> 01:29:07,390
Take the timer.

1057
01:29:08,670 --> 01:29:11,070
I was here for something else.

1058
01:29:11,230 --> 01:29:13,270
I actually flock and 11A.

1059
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:20,570
One of the issues with the dump site that was out in, I believe it's word one if I'm correct,

1060
01:29:22,090 --> 01:29:29,290
is I heard that they were trying to put cameras out there to find these individuals that were dumping the trash.

1061
01:29:30,670 --> 01:29:39,790
I am now trying to be solution-based, and one of my proposals is instead of finding these individuals that dump the trash.

1062
01:29:39,790 --> 01:29:43,870
How about we open the wood site for accepting trash?

1063
01:29:44,590 --> 01:29:51,770
So the wood site, I believe it's Tuesday through Saturday from 8 a.m. to 3.30.

1064
01:29:52,850 --> 01:29:56,650
My brother actually called me on Monday. He was going to take some wood from his house,

1065
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:59,970
some tree trimmings or whatever, and he couldn't get to the wood.

1066
01:30:00,420 --> 01:30:07,200
He's like on Monday. He says, is the wood side open? I said, no, it's not. And so he's like, I don't want to go to

1067
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:15,480
Bina, the line fill, right? Which you guys, I don't know if you know where Bina is. And so what ended up happening was my brother turned around when back home, right?

1068
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:28,660
And he wasted his gas. And as we know, gas is really expensive right now. So my account, you know, I'm going to ask Zach, if you can please look into this because we have a lot of trees in our area, a ton of trees.

1069
01:30:28,660 --> 01:30:33,500
We're about to go into that season where I will probably take two trailers full of trees

1070
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:36,160
of just my art is just a ton.

1071
01:30:36,580 --> 01:30:39,160
So I will ask Zach to look into that.

1072
01:30:40,060 --> 01:30:46,240
But I will ask, you know, I will tell Eric, you know, as far as the camera suggests, I think

1073
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,440
that's just a terrible idea.

1074
01:30:47,780 --> 01:30:52,480
I think we should provide solutions and look at why people can't take the trash or their

1075
01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:53,360
tree trimmings.

1076
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:58,640
Let's be more proactive about it and ask the community members, I work in the trash industry

1077
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:05,620
So that's how, you know, so anyway, the other thing is sanctuary city, let's do it. You guys suck.

1078
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,300
Thank you so much. Next speaker please.

1079
01:31:13,050 --> 01:31:14,590
Go, that was our final speaker.

1080
01:31:15,130 --> 01:31:15,610
Thank you.

1081
01:31:16,830 --> 01:31:17,850
Next item, please.

1082
01:31:19,790 --> 01:31:19,890
Yeah.

1083
01:31:22,250 --> 01:31:24,810
We need a break at this point, I think.

1084
01:31:25,090 --> 01:31:28,470
So let's take a break for 10 minutes.

1085
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:33,090
And we'll be back for more city business.

1086
01:40:09,410 --> 01:40:14,430
Let's start gathering together, and if we could have staff in the back, just help to close the doors, please.

1087
01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:16,230
It's close and up to 10 minutes.

1088
01:40:26,860 --> 01:40:28,900
Townsend Member Coleman, we're ready to start.

1089
01:40:43,180 --> 01:40:47,000
Let's all sit down, please, so we can continue the meeting at 647.

1090
01:40:48,180 --> 01:40:50,340
Madam Clerk, would you please read the next item?

1091
01:40:53,870 --> 01:40:54,550
Concert calendar.

1092
01:40:55,610 --> 01:41:03,210
A staff member and a member was provided transmitting corrected minutes for item 6A1, item 6F3, transmitting correspondence.

1093
01:41:03,210 --> 01:41:12,430
item 6f15 correcting the item title and also please note that item 6E1 contains a staff recommendation

1094
01:41:12,430 --> 01:41:17,190
to adopt resolutions approving salaries and benefits for specified units.

1095
01:41:18,510 --> 01:41:18,690
Thank you.

1096
01:41:18,890 --> 01:41:28,030
And we've had a request by council member Smith to pull 6C4 and is that just number 2 council member?

1097
01:41:28,190 --> 01:41:28,770
That is correct.

1098
01:41:29,130 --> 01:41:29,170
Okay.

1099
01:41:29,330 --> 01:41:30,130
Thank you.

1100
01:41:30,130 --> 01:41:35,450
And I don't see any other requests for items to be pulled Council member for themselves.

1101
01:41:36,110 --> 01:41:41,910
Motion to approve consent calendar with the exception of 6C4.

1102
01:41:42,890 --> 01:41:44,970
The motion please catch your votes.

1103
01:42:10,020 --> 01:42:15,020
The item is approved with the Council member we are voting no and Vice Mayor CORE absent.

1104
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:16,960
Thank you and Council member Smith.

1105
01:42:17,260 --> 01:42:18,640
Now 6C4.

1106
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:27,760
Thank you, Mayor. This is the item that addresses the smoking in public parks, and I think

1107
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:33,320
that's a good thing to move away from smoking in public parks, but reading the original

1108
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:40,120
ordinance, I also noticed that it also prohibits bicycles and unicycles, and I think that

1109
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:46,160
all of our children have ridden bicycles in parks, and that we should, since we are kind of

1110
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:50,580
this ordinance up that we can go ahead and allow bicycles and

1111
01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:56,180
motorcycles in parks. So I would make that change to this cleanup

1112
01:42:56,180 --> 01:43:00,900
ordinance. Thank you. Thank you, you have a motion please touch it. Oh,

1113
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,860
Council member, are yes. Thanks, Mayor. Really quickly. I just wanted to thank the

1114
01:43:04,860 --> 01:43:07,960
advocates for their work on this item. They brought it back to safe and healthy

1115
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:12,740
neighborhoods. Not too long ago, it made a wonderful presentation. And I just

1116
01:43:12,740 --> 01:43:18,020
this signifies the continued work to make sure that we're creating these community spaces that are

1117
01:43:18,020 --> 01:43:22,640
smoke free for our children. So thank you so much for the work on this. I also want to take

1118
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:29,180
their recommendation that we explicitly call out that our parks are also smoke free zones.

1119
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:34,820
I have not had a chance to look through the entire document itself, but I would like to make

1120
01:43:34,820 --> 01:43:37,960
ask that we make that explicit. Thank you.

1121
01:43:38,140 --> 01:43:43,020
It's so you have a motion to approve six C4.

1122
01:43:43,060 --> 01:43:44,740
You have a motion to discuss your votes.

1123
01:44:05,530 --> 01:44:07,410
The motion is approved with Council Member Weere,

1124
01:44:07,510 --> 01:44:09,530
voting no and Vice Mayor Corps absent.

1125
01:44:10,350 --> 01:44:11,290
Thank you. Next item, please.

1126
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:24,130
Consent calendar public hearings.

1127
01:44:24,630 --> 01:44:28,950
Item 7A. Public hearing to consider the planning commission's approval of general

1128
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:37,690
amendment and zone change number 23 dash 0, 5, 6, 0, and it's proposed mitigated negative declaration.

1129
01:44:39,230 --> 01:44:52,490
Item 7B, public hearing to consider planning commissions approval of general plan amendment, zone change number 25 dash 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, and it's proposed mitigated negative declaration.

1130
01:44:53,550 --> 01:44:59,970
Thank you. It's time for the consent calendar public hearings as the clerk said. The purpose of this section is to

1131
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:20,380
Out on all the items listed under consent calendar hearings in one motion without further comment. If anyone would like to speak on any of the hearing items listed, the item must be removed from the portion of this agenda. If an item is removed, it will be placed at the end of the regular public hearing portion of the agenda.

1132
01:45:20,380 --> 01:45:29,440
So, at this time, I will open consent calendar public hearing item seven A, B. Is there any one of the

1133
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:33,620
audience who would like to request that a hearing item be removed from the consent calendar?

1134
01:45:33,900 --> 01:45:40,180
If so, please come forward. This isn't the time to take testimony. Only remove the matter from the consent calendar hearing.

1135
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:49,700
Mayor Go, we did receive a request to remove item 7A from the consent calendar public hearings.

1136
01:45:50,820 --> 01:45:55,600
Thank you, and then does any council member wish to remove any other item?

1137
01:46:03,310 --> 01:46:16,620
Right, so at this time consent calendar public hearing item 7B is now closed and do we have a motion on that?

1138
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:24,080
Mayor, I'll make a motion to adopt consent calendar public hearing items 7B.

1139
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,380
You have a motion? Please, test your votes.

1140
01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:45,270
The item is approved with Council Member Core absent.

1141
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:47,150
Thank you, next item, please.

1142
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:59,380
Hereings item 8A, public hearing, public appeal hearing of planning commissions approval,

1143
01:46:59,380 --> 01:47:03,720
of vesting tentative track map number 7451 phased.

1144
01:47:04,020 --> 01:47:07,260
Macintosh and Associates representing Diamond Farming Company

1145
01:47:07,260 --> 01:47:11,360
is proposing to submit sub-divided 40.77 acres

1146
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:15,180
into 313 single-family residential lots.

1147
01:47:15,580 --> 01:47:18,340
One multi-use trail lot and one parking lot

1148
01:47:18,340 --> 01:47:21,660
in the R2 small lot single unit dwelling zone

1149
01:47:21,660 --> 01:47:25,620
located generally southeast of all of Drive and Santa Fe Way.

1150
01:47:26,140 --> 01:47:28,540
Sierra Club appealed the planning commission decision,

1151
01:47:28,540 --> 01:47:35,160
developer Tom D from RFG properties ink requested the public appeal hearing be opened and

1152
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:41,080
continue to September 16th, 2026 since they are negotiating a settlement with the appellate

1153
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:41,940
Sierra Club.

1154
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,760
I'm sorry, did we skip seven A?

1155
01:47:46,220 --> 01:47:48,780
We'll come back to that at the end of the hearings.

1156
01:47:51,850 --> 01:47:55,610
So for the public hearings each side will be allowed 20 minutes.

1157
01:47:55,610 --> 01:48:01,610
It's 20 minutes for all speakers per side, 10 minutes for in-person speakers, 10 minutes for speakers by phone.

1158
01:48:01,930 --> 01:48:06,530
It's important that you identify yourself, make your statements, simply so others may speak.

1159
01:48:07,010 --> 01:48:11,110
If there's testimony on both sides, each side will be allowed a 10 minute rebuttal.

1160
01:48:11,330 --> 01:48:16,990
There's clock on the TV screens behind me, which indicates 20 minutes when you're called on, please identify yourself.

1161
01:48:17,150 --> 01:48:22,630
You may ask questions during your statement, but they won't be addressed until the public hearing is closed.

1162
01:48:22,630 --> 01:48:30,930
If you're written comments that are longer than your verbal statement, give them to the clerk and she'll provide copies to the council, please be courteous to others who wish to speak.

1163
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:49,090
So at this time, public hearing item eight A is open. Before we begin, I'd like to acknowledge that staff recommends that we open and continue this public hearing to the September 16th, 2026 City Council meeting pending negotiations of the settlement.

1164
01:48:49,090 --> 01:48:56,570
While the public can still make public comments today, we encourage you to wait until the item is heard on September 16th.

1165
01:48:56,650 --> 01:49:02,730
Madam Clerk, do we have any speakers in opposition or in favor of this item?

1166
01:49:03,550 --> 01:49:04,010
Mayor, go.

1167
01:49:04,150 --> 01:49:11,730
We have not received any requests to speak in opposition or in favor of this item either by phone or in person.

1168
01:49:12,610 --> 01:49:12,990
Thank you.

1169
01:49:13,470 --> 01:49:14,370
Next item, please.

1170
01:49:18,140 --> 01:49:20,840
Yes, we do need a motion to continue.

1171
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:22,060
I would like to make that move.

1172
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:25,660
Councilmember Smith made a motion to continue this item.

1173
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:27,940
You have a motion, please cast your votes.

1174
01:49:37,390 --> 01:49:40,130
The item is approved with Vice Mayor Cor.

1175
01:49:40,590 --> 01:49:41,150
Absent.

1176
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:42,210
Thank you.

1177
01:49:42,370 --> 01:49:44,290
Panel Clerk next item, please.

1178
01:49:52,540 --> 01:49:53,700
Item 7A.

1179
01:49:54,580 --> 01:49:56,760
Public hearing to consider the planning commissions.

1180
01:49:57,980 --> 01:50:00,760
Approval of general plan amendment and zone change number.

1181
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:07,100
of 23-056-0, and as proposed, mitigated negative declaration.

1182
01:50:09,730 --> 01:50:11,870
And click what about A-B.

1183
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:17,480
Somebody made mistakes.

1184
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:19,260
All right, there is no A-B.

1185
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:24,580
All right, we're on to 7-A Council Member Smith.

1186
01:50:25,480 --> 01:50:26,980
Are you the one who pulled it initially?

1187
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:28,340
No, somebody else did.

1188
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:29,760
City manager, click.

1189
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:32,820
Mayor and Council are a developer.

1190
01:50:32,820 --> 01:50:39,040
Mr. Director Phil Burns can just give a quick summary of this pending any questions and your

1191
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:42,940
response to those that wanted to have this item discussed separately.

1192
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:46,460
Welcome to members.

1193
01:50:47,480 --> 01:50:53,340
What we have in front of us is General Pline Amendment 230560, a property owner, ATG, investment

1194
01:50:53,340 --> 01:51:00,980
LLC, Projectscription, and General Pline Amendment Zone change for 24.8, 8.6 acres, the project

1195
01:51:00,980 --> 01:51:06,180
It continues to develop 6.36 acres commercial land on a northern person in the property, and a project

1196
01:51:06,180 --> 01:51:10,880
continues to develop 18.5 acres as a multi-family residential and a southern person in the

1197
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:11,360
parcel.

1198
01:51:11,860 --> 01:51:15,720
Conceptual development plans have been submitted for a commercial person, but no development plans

1199
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,600
have been submitted for the residential portion at this time.

1200
01:51:18,900 --> 01:51:23,020
So, located in the southwest corner of Tafht Highway, Ash Road, in Ward 7.

1201
01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:25,580
and the CECO document is in M&D.

1202
01:51:26,260 --> 01:51:28,380
Plan and Commission are approved of this project

1203
01:51:28,380 --> 01:51:31,580
onto like 16th, no speakers in favor or opposition

1204
01:51:31,580 --> 01:51:32,680
at that hearing.

1205
01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:35,120
Stack recommends the project is been found

1206
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,440
consistent with general plan policies and city zoning

1207
01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:39,120
ordinances requirements for these

1208
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,520
reasons city staff recommends approval

1209
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,120
for the general plan amendment and zoning change

1210
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,020
for project 23, 0, 560.

1211
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,100
Thank you.

1212
01:52:00,870 --> 01:52:00,990
Copy.

1213
01:52:34,250 --> 01:52:38,870
So, at this time, public item 7A is open.

1214
01:52:43,700 --> 01:52:47,180
Then, clerk, do we have any requests to speak on this item?

1215
01:52:48,460 --> 01:52:52,620
Mayor, go. We've received one request to speak in opposition to staff's recommendation.

1216
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:58,440
And go ahead and call that speaker. Use a draw, ask me.

1217
01:53:03,340 --> 01:53:07,340
Is that person in person or was that specific on the phone?

1218
01:53:07,980 --> 01:53:14,460
there go the request was for in person. Thank you. And I don't see that she is present here.

1219
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:22,300
My assumption, Mary, if I may, is that it may have been another item besides this item that was

1220
01:53:22,300 --> 01:53:26,520
made perhaps mislabeled. Okay. Thank you.

1221
01:53:27,480 --> 01:53:32,280
And so, does anybody want to make a motion on this item? Council members?

1222
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:35,040
I'll make the motion to approve.

1223
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,800
You have a motion on seven A, please,

1224
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:39,620
catch your votes.

1225
01:53:42,250 --> 01:53:43,690
Out, the hearing is closed.

1226
01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:44,910
Now, you have a motion.

1227
01:53:56,890 --> 01:53:59,250
There's some interesting music coming from somewhere,

1228
01:53:59,590 --> 01:54:01,050
a staff, so if you want to attend to that.

1229
01:54:01,070 --> 01:54:01,490
That was

1230
01:54:06,290 --> 01:54:06,690
good.

1231
01:54:09,770 --> 01:54:11,310
Yes, did you already vote?

1232
01:54:19,820 --> 01:54:22,040
The item is approved with Vice Mayor Cor.

1233
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:22,580
Absent.

1234
01:54:24,850 --> 01:54:25,790
Thank you.

1235
01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:30,730
Next item, please.

1236
01:54:41,970 --> 01:54:43,130
Item 10 A.

1237
01:54:43,130 --> 01:54:51,070
Interfund loan to complete the acquisition of 1430 and 1440 trucks in Avenue, pursuant to Council approved purchase agreement.

1238
01:54:52,270 --> 01:54:53,550
Thank you.

1239
01:54:53,550 --> 01:54:54,290
Sorry, Margot.

1240
01:54:54,410 --> 01:54:57,270
There was a blue memo prepared for this item.

1241
01:54:58,790 --> 01:55:00,390
Transmitting an updated resolution.

1242
01:55:02,780 --> 01:55:04,500
Thank you, Madam City Clerk, Mr. Cleg.

1243
01:55:05,140 --> 01:55:05,920
Thank you, Marin Council.

1244
01:55:06,660 --> 01:55:13,700
As we jump into this item, I would remind your council that this was before you in March of this year earlier.

1245
01:55:13,700 --> 01:55:20,500
Your city council approved a purchase and a lease and a purchase and sale agreement

1246
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:26,690
Contentioned on a due diligence period for this site

1247
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:32,800
We'll walk through the background again on this because it is a large decision in large item

1248
01:55:33,380 --> 01:55:35,120
But in quick summary

1249
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:39,890
This project really was initiated out of an effort to

1250
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,300
Save our operating dollars to gain efficiencies

1251
01:55:43,700 --> 01:55:55,640
And to focus on a long-term solution to a need that we had that was costing us more dollars than made cents for our operations.

1252
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,580
Be clerk and have an hard time making this advance.

1253
01:56:13,620 --> 01:56:14,900
Thank you, Mr. Marcus.

1254
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:18,280
So again, this goes all the way back to 2021.

1255
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:24,360
We did, we were in a mode where we were in the process of hiring 100 police officers,

1256
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,320
as well as some support staff in the police department.

1257
01:56:27,740 --> 01:56:29,820
We had significant space challenges.

1258
01:56:30,980 --> 01:56:32,960
We did a space planning study,

1259
01:56:33,580 --> 01:56:35,960
had identified future space needs,

1260
01:56:36,340 --> 01:56:40,380
but also we did not have the capacity at the time

1261
01:56:40,380 --> 01:56:43,840
to address those with the expense of new build projects.

1262
01:56:44,620 --> 01:56:47,780
And so we were in a position where we needed

1263
01:56:47,780 --> 01:56:51,840
to lease office space to house our growing police department.

1264
01:56:51,840 --> 01:57:15,360
And we also did citywide office space assessments in 23 and 24, but we have been leasing space in a building that is outside of our downtown core since 2021 and those lease payments have been escalating up towards last year, it was $900,000 and next year we anticipated to be over a million dollars for those lease payments.

1265
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:21,460
At the time, there was limited suitable office space in the downtown core, but the council

1266
01:57:21,460 --> 01:57:27,320
a lot of the time approved that move out of the urgency that we had, but gave direction

1267
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:32,540
to try and look for a long-term space back in the downtown core at some point in the future.

1268
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:44,780
So, there were multiple properties that were assessed in 2024 and 2025 to think about those

1269
01:57:44,780 --> 01:57:52,080
And Tower became a realistic option in 2025 and started the process of doing the analysis and

1270
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:53,600
approaching the property owners.

1271
01:57:54,900 --> 01:58:00,180
And again, there's a unique opportunity that this move will offer a significant savings,

1272
01:58:01,060 --> 01:58:04,080
while addressing that long-term space needs into the future.

1273
01:58:05,140 --> 01:58:11,500
Just in summary, there is an immediate savings of $350,000 a year of our operating dollars.

1274
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:24,880
And after the payment for our internal fund loan that would represent a savings of more than a million dollars a year after the 12-year term of that loan.

1275
01:58:26,460 --> 01:58:30,340
This is just an orient, again, a council and community to where the location is.

1276
01:58:30,340 --> 01:58:38,160
is the taller tower portion as well as that orange color, they're labeled 11 and the parking

1277
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:43,720
garage behind it, significant parking space to the advantage of the tenants of the building,

1278
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:50,040
the city, and ultimately our parking enterprise that will make that parking available in the evenings

1279
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:56,640
to customers downtown and to expand our enterprise beyond our current parking garage.

1280
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:23,460
This is mostly for the public record to just reflect the space and where we're going to initially occupy space for the police department, so we're moving the police department into three floors of office space and one floor, the ground floor for some training space, and that is already subject to the lease agreement as approved by Council, but as we move forward with purchase.

1281
01:59:23,460 --> 01:59:35,800
Then we would still occupy that space, but it is 122,000 square foot building that allows us to have many other tenants that help to pay for the net operating cost of that building.

1282
01:59:37,700 --> 01:59:49,440
And that gets us to the rationale. Again, it gives us an opportunity to manage our timing and our costs and our space needs while getting a long-term solution.

1283
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:59,960
we don't need to occupy the entire space. We can slowly over time as our community grows and we have additional needs to serve our country.

1284
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,740
Community to potentially occupy additional space, but we don't have to. And having those lease revenues

1285
02:00:07,740 --> 02:00:14,880
come in to help, again, with our operating costs as a huge advantage. And in particular, it was

1286
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:22,840
the very expensive least payments that we're able to eliminate and consolidate staff, and it also

1287
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:28,880
improve our operational efficiencies. Again, note the number of parking spaces is significant

1288
02:00:29,380 --> 02:00:35,620
and it is in the heart of downtown and positioned very close to City Hall that allows us to

1289
02:00:36,140 --> 02:00:43,460
continue to move forward and work in closely together as City Team. And we just note

1290
02:00:43,460 --> 02:01:02,600
Lastly, we were able to have a favorable purchase price given some of our market timing and that the value, which we're purchasing, this is significantly below the appraised value, and again has multiple long-term tenants.

1291
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:07,300
We completed our due diligence period at the end of July.

1292
02:01:08,060 --> 02:01:10,000
We saw no red flags.

1293
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:16,660
There are not any facility issues that aren't beyond what we would consider regular maintenance.

1294
02:01:17,180 --> 02:01:21,340
We did through the process identify some of those maintenance needs that are going to come

1295
02:01:21,340 --> 02:01:23,880
up in the next five to ten years and that's important and valuable.

1296
02:01:24,880 --> 02:01:31,220
There are a couple of smaller issues that were agreed to be addressed before a close on

1297
02:01:31,220 --> 02:01:38,760
property as well as some consideration for our maintenance costs in the first year because we do anticipate

1298
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:47,280
needing to do some maintenance in year one. We already had a $425,000 deposit on this property that

1299
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:56,300
would go towards the purchase price and we are underway in the planning process to move the police

1300
02:01:56,300 --> 02:02:01,680
department in as we had, you know, made the choice that we would either lease or purchase

1301
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:05,640
moving forward just to get out of the other lease costs that we're facing at the other

1302
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:06,160
location.

1303
02:02:07,740 --> 02:02:13,620
So again, in short, summary after our due diligence staff is recommending that we move forward

1304
02:02:13,620 --> 02:02:18,440
because there are new issues that suggest that we shouldn't acquire the building.

1305
02:02:21,380 --> 02:02:28,080
A few more, I think just valuable reflections on why we feel this is such a move for the

1306
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:32,960
the existing tenants have a very stable rental income stream.

1307
02:02:33,780 --> 02:02:35,660
You see that there on the screen.

1308
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:40,800
There are a variety of different tenants and varying lease agreements,

1309
02:02:41,260 --> 02:02:43,340
but several of those are also long-term tenants.

1310
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:48,700
We do have about 21% vacancy, the average vacancy for office space

1311
02:02:48,700 --> 02:02:51,960
and downtown is closer to 6% citywide.

1312
02:02:51,980 --> 02:02:53,920
It's closer to 8%.

1313
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:59,020
And so we think there's work we can go do to acquire additional tenants that would help

1314
02:02:59,020 --> 02:03:03,820
us continue to offset our operating costs, the performance that's before your council

1315
02:03:03,820 --> 02:03:08,600
does not include assumptions of additional revenues from those leases.

1316
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:15,540
We took a conservative approach and it's based on current plus one that's based on a notable

1317
02:03:15,540 --> 02:03:21,460
letter of interest that has been issued to occupy that space.

1318
02:03:21,460 --> 02:03:27,940
And so any additional space that gets least only helps improve our net operating, which already

1319
02:03:27,940 --> 02:03:31,720
again achieves that $350,000 savings per year.

1320
02:03:32,540 --> 02:03:39,160
But also very importantly, the preserve is a very important building in the core corridor

1321
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:44,920
for trucks and preserves our economic activity downtown.

1322
02:03:45,820 --> 02:03:48,980
And again that phased city expansion as needed.

1323
02:03:50,380 --> 02:03:54,360
These are numbers that were provided in the administrative report, and these are the numbers

1324
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:59,380
where I'm giving you, again, our lease payments, we're going to be over a million dollars a year

1325
02:03:59,380 --> 02:04:11,280
in this coming year, our total payments for debt service against this interfund loan would be $636,000,

1326
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:19,360
which is why I'm saying that the million minus the $366, that's your $350,000 down, $350,000

1327
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:28,040
in savings every year and those payments that we're making from our capital improvement program

1328
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:34,260
each year, free up the operating dollars on the police side and they go towards the acquisition

1329
02:04:34,260 --> 02:04:40,060
of this long-term asset. So instead of growing money away to a lease that didn't result in any

1330
02:04:40,060 --> 02:04:48,560
long-term asset, this now does put us in a position to have acquired this long-term asset.

1331
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:57,260
Lastly, I noted earlier that we had space that we could continue to lease,

1332
02:04:57,260 --> 02:05:04,560
these are just some square foot estimates, and some conservative estimated lease revenues

1333
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:09,500
that could come from those additional spaces, and as you'll note, that would significantly,

1334
02:05:09,500 --> 02:05:17,200
again, increase that revenue and notably decrease the amount of capital dollars that would need to go

1335
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:26,120
towards net service each year, and we feel that several years into this payback of our

1336
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:30,620
inner fund loan, or likely to be in a position where the full debt service is being paid

1337
02:05:30,620 --> 02:05:34,860
by the net operating revenues from the building.

1338
02:05:37,720 --> 02:05:40,660
There are actually still two options in front of us.

1339
02:05:40,980 --> 02:05:47,940
There is the option to move with purpose and to close by the end of this month, and that

1340
02:05:47,940 --> 02:05:52,200
would represent a significant savings, $100,000, and I don't see any reason not to move

1341
02:05:52,200 --> 02:06:00,940
now, if we chose to exercise our purchase option at a later date, the price would change

1342
02:06:00,940 --> 02:06:09,340
notably, and our deposit, again, has already, where past our due diligence period, the deposit

1343
02:06:09,340 --> 02:06:15,280
has gone hard, and we would not get that deposit back if we don't move forward, and, again,

1344
02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:21,980
significant savings with the early exercise option that we're recommending in front of you.

1345
02:06:22,860 --> 02:06:27,480
This is a lot of numbers, but we wanted to be transparent and demonstrate what our

1346
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:36,080
debt service payments look like. Again, this is a 2.5% interest loan over 12 years. At the

1347
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:41,600
same time, we're using some of our capital facility reserve, about $2.5 million in total,

1348
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:46,900
And we're going to pay that back over the next five years to make sure that that is restored.

1349
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:52,580
And I probably should have done this at the outset, I apologize it did not.

1350
02:06:52,920 --> 02:07:03,040
As a recommendation to use an Interfund loan, what this means what we're doing is we have reserves in our equipment fund that we're going to borrow against or borrowing against our own reserve dollars.

1351
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:29,980
But it's at a 2.5% interest rate because we don't want to lose a value that our reserves would have gained had they been invested in the market and so we always invest our reserves and this represents a five year average of what our reserve interest income has been and that 2.5% is a fair way to make sure that we're not losing much.

1352
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:40,000
In our reserves by making this enter fund loan. Some might question why do we choose this particular way of financing?

1353
02:07:40,940 --> 02:07:50,760
It's far more cost-effective than going out and trying to loan or bond in the private markets, because you have to pay higher interest rates.

1354
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:58,160
you also have to pay transactional costs, and it's in the scope at $12 million.

1355
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:02,940
It's in the scope that our Interfund reserves can handle.

1356
02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:09,140
We can't do larger projects that might be tens of millions or $100 million, but we have

1357
02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:16,060
a reserve that is over $100 million in our equipment fund, and we have a $54 million

1358
02:08:16,060 --> 02:08:18,440
are unrestricted reserve in the equipment fund.

1359
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:21,200
And so this is about the right size for us

1360
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:23,360
to do a very meaningful project that's

1361
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:27,100
going to save us a lot of money and a short time frame

1362
02:08:27,100 --> 02:08:31,100
still make that equipment fund whole again.

1363
02:08:32,980 --> 02:08:35,200
So that is our recommendation from you, the City Council,

1364
02:08:35,420 --> 02:08:38,720
a $12.1 million fund loan that we

1365
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,500
would appropriate those to our capital outlifund and appropriate

1366
02:08:41,500 --> 02:08:44,260
the remaining two million from the capital facility reserve

1367
02:08:44,260 --> 02:08:48,600
to our capital outlay fund, it's a total of 2.5

1368
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,740
towards this project from the capital outlay fund.

1369
02:08:51,020 --> 02:08:54,640
The other 425 is the deposit that we already made.

1370
02:08:55,020 --> 02:08:56,440
And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions.

1371
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:58,620
Thank you, Mr. Klig.

1372
02:08:58,900 --> 02:08:59,900
Council member Gonzalez.

1373
02:09:00,260 --> 02:09:00,560
Thank you, Mayor.

1374
02:09:00,860 --> 02:09:02,140
Thank you, Mr. Klig for the presentation.

1375
02:09:02,620 --> 02:09:04,020
We've got a lot of conversation about this.

1376
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:05,880
I just want to, for the sake of,

1377
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:09,360
over the benefit of the public, ask a few questions.

1378
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:11,560
And then I wanted to ask a couple of questions

1379
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:18,860
for my benefit. Number one is, you know, we talk a lot about inner funds, but that may be

1380
02:09:18,860 --> 02:09:25,900
jargon for, you know, my constituents and people in the community. What I think what we're doing

1381
02:09:25,900 --> 02:09:31,460
is correct me from wrong, but we're borrowing from ourselves in the sense that, you know, we have a

1382
02:09:31,460 --> 02:09:38,420
general fund which most people refer to as the city budget and most folks when they come to

1383
02:09:38,420 --> 02:09:42,080
Council, and they talk about their priorities for the city.

1384
02:09:42,740 --> 02:09:45,700
We'll be typically referencing the general fund.

1385
02:09:46,080 --> 02:09:51,380
This is where most of our sales tax property tax revenue goes into, is where we earn,

1386
02:09:51,820 --> 02:09:53,160
how we spend money.

1387
02:09:53,740 --> 02:09:58,640
But we also have additional funds, additional separate funds that are not co-mingled,

1388
02:10:00,740 --> 02:10:00,740
that

1389
02:10:00,740 --> 02:10:02,520
are, in fact, separate.

1390
02:10:03,860 --> 02:10:09,440
And these funds include the City Equipment Internal Service Fund, the Capital Outlay Fund.

1391
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:16,760
And what we're doing is we're borrowing from those particular funds that can only be used for certain purposes.

1392
02:10:16,940 --> 02:10:17,760
Am I right so far?

1393
02:10:18,220 --> 02:10:19,020
Yeah, that's correct.

1394
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:22,000
Councilmember, and I would just reflect really quickly.

1395
02:10:22,820 --> 02:10:23,700
You are correct.

1396
02:10:23,780 --> 02:10:25,140
We're borrowing from ourselves.

1397
02:10:25,740 --> 02:10:30,320
The Equipment Fund is a dedicated fund that is separate from the general fund,

1398
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:36,680
correct and the dollars that go into that equipment fund actually come from the general fund

1399
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:40,660
and several of our other funds, but they have to be protected only for the use of purchase

1400
02:10:40,660 --> 02:10:46,880
of equipment, but again, as a healthy reserve sits over there, it's an opportunity to bar

1401
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:53,000
against that from ourselves, but because it is dedicated to a purpose, it does have to be paid

1402
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:53,880
back with interest.

1403
02:10:54,680 --> 02:11:00,300
So when we say that we're saving money, we are saving money because today, we're

1404
02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:05,940
We are spending money on a current lease agreement for space that we need for big, so police

1405
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:06,380
department.

1406
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:08,260
And we pay a million dollars annually.

1407
02:11:09,340 --> 02:11:10,920
And where do those funds come from?

1408
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:15,100
I think you guys might remember that is coming out of the general fund, the savings that we're

1409
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,280
achieving is going to be to the general fund.

1410
02:11:17,960 --> 02:11:24,360
So we will, because we have to pay ourselves back in these additional, these other funds,

1411
02:11:24,360 --> 02:11:31,560
We will be saving $350,000 a year and then in the 13th year then we will be saving

1412
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:38,360
a million dollars at least because these lease agreements, they don't get cheaper over time,

1413
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:40,780
you know, just like my rent.

1414
02:11:41,340 --> 02:11:42,480
It's only got more expensive.

1415
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:48,320
The lease agreement will likely be even more expensive in the future.

1416
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:48,880
Is that right?

1417
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:49,760
That is correct.

1418
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:56,020
It's a conservative savings of a million dollars a year, it will only increase over the life of this loan payback.

1419
02:11:56,260 --> 02:12:03,820
So over the next 12 years, we'll be paying $12 million if we choose not to pursue this.

1420
02:12:03,820 --> 02:12:04,540
That is correct.

1421
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:15,840
The other thing is, the thing I really like about this project is that it occupies a building that currently has a 21% vacancy rate.

1422
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:22,220
You mentioned there's a current 21% begger's rate is that including the anticipated use from

1423
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:24,680
Bagel Police Department in city

1424
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:25,920
Yes, we

1425
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:33,800
When police occupies it will there will still be 21% vacancy got it, but we all already

1426
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:40,880
Having conversations with potential tenants in anticipation of the city's purchases. Is that right?

1427
02:12:40,900 --> 02:12:45,380
Absolutely and and it has been actively marketed. I think it's fair to know that

1428
02:12:45,380 --> 02:12:49,560
but also we feel that as the city enters,

1429
02:12:49,860 --> 02:12:52,980
the building, as the owner, and as an attendant,

1430
02:12:53,600 --> 02:12:57,200
there may be some tenants who look at that

1431
02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:58,040
and make some considerations,

1432
02:12:58,280 --> 02:12:59,800
but we also think some potential tenants

1433
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:03,560
would see that as an attractive relationship.

1434
02:13:03,860 --> 02:13:05,500
We'll leverage all of our relationships

1435
02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:07,420
that we have as well to make sure

1436
02:13:07,420 --> 02:13:09,840
that we can fill that space as much as possible.

1437
02:13:10,700 --> 02:13:11,040
Great.

1438
02:13:11,420 --> 02:13:14,660
Six to the last point, parking is a huge benefit

1439
02:13:14,660 --> 02:13:21,020
because parking is limited in downtown. And it is one of the most controversial issues in

1440
02:13:21,020 --> 02:13:27,600
downtown Biggs. Given its scarcity, how much does it cost to build a parking structure?

1441
02:13:28,720 --> 02:13:32,440
I think you can count to remember American Council to build a parking structure depends a little bit

1442
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:40,820
on the size of course. But a parking structure that would be 300 plus stalls is a 323 stall parking

1443
02:13:40,820 --> 02:13:43,680
could be easily $50 million dollars.

1444
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:44,100
It built.

1445
02:13:44,740 --> 02:13:46,680
$50 million dollars to build a new structure.

1446
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:49,240
Yeah, that's not going to happen any time soon.

1447
02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:50,700
At least with the city of Vegas,

1448
02:13:50,860 --> 02:13:52,220
we'll give an R current condition.

1449
02:13:52,400 --> 02:13:55,080
So I think this is a good move even for that.

1450
02:13:55,160 --> 02:13:57,100
And then my last point is,

1451
02:13:58,500 --> 02:14:02,000
tonight we're also considering an item related to a vacant property

1452
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:06,500
that has seen many code violations.

1453
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:09,060
And we know all too well in this city.

1454
02:14:09,060 --> 02:14:13,440
what happens when buildings remain underutilized or even vacant.

1455
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:20,420
And it becomes a huge liability to the city because we have to expend resources by

1456
02:14:20,420 --> 02:14:27,740
way of code enforcement, police department, fire department, and else becomes just a nuisance

1457
02:14:27,740 --> 02:14:29,520
to the surrounding community.

1458
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:34,780
There are a lot of negative externalities related to some of these buildings that unfortunately

1459
02:14:34,780 --> 02:14:37,440
are in the urban court, there's just a higher concentration.

1460
02:14:38,540 --> 02:14:48,740
And the thing that I've always worried about is to see this building fall into disrepair

1461
02:14:48,740 --> 02:14:52,080
and to see many of the tenants leave as a result.

1462
02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:59,260
And then the whoever the future owner is seeing them not really caring for this property.

1463
02:15:00,020 --> 02:15:22,200
And it becoming the major liability for all of us in this community. And so I think this is a really big win for not only the city of Bakersville, from a business perspective, but also for downtown and for the future of downtown Bakersville. So I'm going to make a motion tonight that we approve this. Thanks.

1464
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:23,080
Thank you.

1465
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:24,460
Councilmember Bessier-Tosh.

1466
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:35,080
I don't.

1467
02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,360
We have to borrow.

1468
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:40,700
We have to be interested in money that we borrow from money count, Randy.

1469
02:15:42,020 --> 02:15:43,880
That's like a, that's a mandatory thing.

1470
02:15:49,850 --> 02:15:50,310
Good evening.

1471
02:15:51,070 --> 02:15:51,530
Councilmember.

1472
02:15:52,170 --> 02:15:53,450
That is really a best practice.

1473
02:15:53,610 --> 02:15:58,510
So what we did is we built this interfund loan policy based on other comparable cities.

1474
02:15:58,510 --> 02:16:02,630
And it really is, because it's an enterprise fund,

1475
02:16:03,250 --> 02:16:05,410
it really is the property approach.

1476
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:08,630
Those funds are really belonging to the Equipment Fund.

1477
02:16:09,150 --> 02:16:11,730
And so we want to really return those dollars

1478
02:16:12,490 --> 02:16:14,110
with what they would have earned

1479
02:16:14,110 --> 02:16:16,290
if they would have had to remain in an investment fund.

1480
02:16:16,470 --> 02:16:17,750
So that's really best practice.

1481
02:16:18,430 --> 02:16:18,850
Thank you.

1482
02:16:19,590 --> 02:16:20,530
That's, I promise you, right now,

1483
02:16:20,630 --> 02:16:21,550
I want to ask you any more question.

1484
02:16:21,570 --> 02:16:22,410
That was the only one.

1485
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:33,440
So the freezing and vocabulary behind the conversation that I just listened to was a little

1486
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:38,780
bit bothersome to me because it's not our money, it's taxpayer money. We're going to pay

1487
02:16:38,780 --> 02:16:47,160
interest on tax. We're going to pay interest with taxpayer money on tax payer money for

1488
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:53,540
something. I just, I mean, that makes me sick to my stomach. We're going to pay interest

1489
02:16:53,540 --> 02:16:59,120
on taxpayer money because we're not making money by investing it, that just sounds so

1490
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:04,460
backwards to me. We're going to take more money from the people to pay for the money we already

1491
02:17:04,460 --> 02:17:11,280
took from the people. I don't know, that doesn't make sense to me. This is going to be so much

1492
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:16,680
more costly. It's in 1974 building every year that goes by in my life and I'm not even a building.

1493
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:21,420
I break down and cost more. I can only imagine what the floor space to this, that parking

1494
02:17:21,420 --> 02:17:25,680
structure looks like. I think it would be very cheap to have parking if we

1495
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:28,860
tore it all down and had a gravel lot with the strike lines. Like, you know,

1496
02:17:28,900 --> 02:17:32,840
the current county fair, it would cost maybe half a million dollars, but this is

1497
02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:39,140
going to cost so much money. And in a time when we're listening to people that have

1498
02:17:39,140 --> 02:17:43,340
businesses on union that are getting shot up and we can't do anything to help with

1499
02:17:43,340 --> 02:17:48,960
that or trying to create gel bed space, but we're moving real slow. I don't

1500
02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:53,180
understand how we can allocate money to anything outside of fixing the problem that is

1501
02:17:53,180 --> 02:17:57,300
plugging business owners that are coming here on a Wednesday night to speak and begging

1502
02:17:57,300 --> 02:18:04,340
for help. I don't support this. I think it's going to cost so much more money. I don't understand

1503
02:18:04,340 --> 02:18:08,120
how we're going to pay interest on tax payer money by taking more money from the taxpayers,

1504
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:12,320
but that's those are my comments.

1505
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:13,260
Council

1506
02:18:15,980 --> 02:18:16,860
Member Coleman.

1507
02:18:20,410 --> 02:18:20,890
Thank you, Mayor.

1508
02:18:23,790 --> 02:18:27,450
So I wanted to address two things.

1509
02:18:28,050 --> 02:18:31,890
I wanted to first address this inner fund transfer.

1510
02:18:32,770 --> 02:18:39,550
Because there's people out there talking about how it's some kind of accounting trick

1511
02:18:39,550 --> 02:18:42,290
or we're doing something shady.

1512
02:18:45,010 --> 02:18:51,490
The inner fund, first of all, that inner fund that we're going to borrow the money for,

1513
02:18:51,630 --> 02:18:52,890
that's the equipment fund.

1514
02:18:55,110 --> 02:19:00,510
Can you please tell me where that money in the equipment fund comes from?

1515
02:19:01,090 --> 02:19:02,190
Yeah, I think it comes around the moment.

1516
02:19:03,430 --> 02:19:09,050
The equipment fund, by the way, is principally vehicles, although there are a few other large

1517
02:19:09,050 --> 02:19:13,710
value pieces of equipment that we include in the equipment fund, but we're not talking about equipment

1518
02:19:13,710 --> 02:19:22,910
like shovels and rakes. This is high dollar value equipment. And so that equipment fund is funded

1519
02:19:22,910 --> 02:19:29,190
by almost all of our funds. So some of it comes from the general fund. Some of it comes from

1520
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:39,030
our other enterprise funds. But because they're coming from other enterprise funds, let's say

1521
02:19:39,030 --> 02:19:45,910
dollars. And so that's why we feel it is appropriate to pay back the interest on that loan

1522
02:19:45,910 --> 02:19:52,170
because it is a best accounting practice to account for each of these funds distinctly and openly.

1523
02:19:52,310 --> 02:19:56,050
And I think I'll read a little bit into your question as well. Council Member Komenai,

1524
02:19:56,150 --> 02:20:09,010
which I think is a good question. In our annual financial reporting documents, we report on each of

1525
02:20:09,010 --> 02:20:15,170
And those dollars are collected from each of the other funds to buy all the equipment we need across all of the funds.

1526
02:20:16,250 --> 02:20:24,150
But again, that is one of our funds that, of course, it represents the value of all of that equipment.

1527
02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:33,030
And so if we had multiple large pieces of equipment that went out and we had to replace those, that's where our reserves come in.

1528
02:20:33,030 --> 02:20:38,950
but we have a fairly healthy reserve by comparison there and so it is available for the

1529
02:20:38,950 --> 02:20:44,790
Interfund loan but it needs to all be documented and accounted for very clearly these

1530
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:46,290
your separate dollars.

1531
02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:56,200
Okay so first of all this is not new to the city of Baker's field.

1532
02:20:56,580 --> 02:21:00,880
That is. All right we've done it before. That is correct we have.

1533
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:11,200
Because I remember in the redevelopment days, we did that from time to time to make some

1534
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:14,960
of the mill Creek projects and that kind of thing work.

1535
02:21:16,180 --> 02:21:18,440
As all that may have been repaid, you know?

1536
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:25,720
It has, I think, as it relates to the redevelopment fund, of course, there's, you know, when

1537
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:31,460
state shut that down, there were lots of complications, but of the city's

1538
02:21:31,460 --> 02:21:34,100
interfund loans, yes, all that has been repaid back.

1539
02:21:35,380 --> 02:21:40,880
So this is something that's a recognized, and I

1540
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:42,460
deal a little bit of my own research on this.

1541
02:21:42,840 --> 02:21:47,900
I just kind of wanted to make a comment about this, because there

1542
02:21:47,900 --> 02:21:51,420
have been people out there saying that this is a county

1543
02:21:51,420 --> 02:21:58,100
districts and this is recognized by the California state controllers office and they have

1544
02:21:58,600 --> 02:22:02,460
a very strict rules on on this.

1545
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:10,780
It's is common for municipalities to use in her fund borrowing.

1546
02:22:11,100 --> 02:22:16,220
That is correct. It is very common and also the government finance officers association has a set of

1547
02:22:16,220 --> 02:22:19,280
guidelines that govern this as well as the state of California.

1548
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:24,160
Okay, and can you tell me what the balance is in the equipment fund right now?

1549
02:22:24,820 --> 02:22:26,880
The equipment fund balance, let me pull that up.

1550
02:22:26,880 --> 02:22:29,760
I mean plus or minus, it's...

1551
02:22:30,270 --> 02:22:37,570
It's about $120 million, and unrestricted is about $54 million.

1552
02:22:37,930 --> 02:22:41,270
So we're going to be taking you out of the unrestricted amount, correct?

1553
02:22:41,830 --> 02:22:45,390
As well as the balance be after we borrow the money.

1554
02:22:45,970 --> 02:22:46,630
Sorry, council member.

1555
02:22:46,910 --> 02:22:54,250
Sorry, if Mr. McKee can you have it off the top of your head, you're so free. I do have it.

1556
02:22:54,710 --> 02:22:57,290
Well, it's 50, you say it's 54 million, we're going to bar 12.

1557
02:22:57,290 --> 02:22:59,190
It's a 40 point.

1558
02:22:59,550 --> 02:23:00,090
It's a simple matter.

1559
02:23:00,410 --> 02:23:01,690
I can't even look at my notes.

1560
02:23:05,090 --> 02:23:12,530
I guess my question then becomes we're still going to have $40 million in a count.

1561
02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:18,630
Are we going to need this $12 million that we're borrowing any time soon?

1562
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:20,050
We do not believe we do.

1563
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:26,310
In fact, we did some analysis and we have a very high level of confidence that we'll be able

1564
02:23:26,310 --> 02:23:33,090
back any equipment purchases that we need to over the full 12 years of this loan repayment

1565
02:23:33,090 --> 02:23:36,070
with the unrestricted balance that remains.

1566
02:23:38,730 --> 02:23:46,830
I think I made my point about the Interfund loan, Interfund borrowing, it's been done.

1567
02:23:47,050 --> 02:23:53,290
We've just cities that the Pickersfield has done frequently in the past, other communities

1568
02:23:53,290 --> 02:24:02,930
use California and outside of California use this practice to finance deals. It's a good way

1569
02:24:02,930 --> 02:24:08,270
to do it because you don't have to go out in the market and you mentioned that you would

1570
02:24:08,270 --> 02:24:13,470
have to pay broker fees for somebody to put a bond out in that kind of thing and then you

1571
02:24:13,470 --> 02:24:20,590
would probably have a higher interest rate. So I like the Interfund borrowing as a tool. I like

1572
02:24:20,590 --> 02:24:26,390
fact that we're not talking to putting it out there for 30 years we're going to pay it back in

1573
02:24:26,810 --> 02:24:34,010
12 years and frankly if you're going to have some operating gains then you might be able to

1574
02:24:34,010 --> 02:24:42,310
pay that down sooner. But I didn't want to talk about the deal itself because in my history of

1575
02:24:42,310 --> 02:24:48,650
things I've done, I've done these kind of real estate analysis for for investment groups and we

1576
02:24:48,650 --> 02:24:55,090
on assessed the property to make a buyer's buy or no buy recommendation.

1577
02:24:56,510 --> 02:25:02,230
And so to me, this is not a spectacular real-state deal.

1578
02:25:03,810 --> 02:25:18,630
You know, yeah, we'd like to be buying it for less, but it's a solid deal, and it's a

1579
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:25,750
any assumptions about being able to knock that 21% basically factor down to 6% that's just

1580
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:27,810
going to be money in the bank.

1581
02:25:28,370 --> 02:25:33,790
We have an appraisal that supports a value above the purchase price correct?

1582
02:25:34,180 --> 02:25:35,210
That is correct.

1583
02:25:38,560 --> 02:25:44,230
There was some concern about the high cost of utilities, but there's been some progress

1584
02:25:44,230 --> 02:25:45,090
on that correct.

1585
02:25:45,090 --> 02:25:49,450
Yeah, I think you can't remember this good question that is also correct that there have been

1586
02:25:49,450 --> 02:25:54,810
some energy efficiency measures to switch to LED lights throughout the building,

1587
02:25:55,350 --> 02:25:59,990
but there are a couple additional energy efficiency projects that we think we could invest

1588
02:25:59,990 --> 02:26:02,570
into further lower the energy costs.

1589
02:26:06,070 --> 02:26:07,950
I guess I want to make a point.

1590
02:26:08,110 --> 02:26:11,890
We're not buying a vacant building for us to use all the space.

1591
02:26:11,890 --> 02:26:17,430
So, it has some pre-set income coming in from these rentals, correct?

1592
02:26:17,850 --> 02:26:18,270
That's correct.

1593
02:26:18,550 --> 02:26:18,850
One point.

1594
02:26:19,070 --> 02:26:19,890
And I rent all the leasing.

1595
02:26:20,050 --> 02:26:25,650
Yeah, $1.4 million in annual lease income, that's significant.

1596
02:26:26,330 --> 02:26:31,430
Which is not, is that included the money worse than for the lease or not?

1597
02:26:31,430 --> 02:26:32,130
It does not.

1598
02:26:32,490 --> 02:26:32,630
All right.

1599
02:26:33,490 --> 02:26:40,210
So, this repayment can be largely paid out of either the our lease savings or the money

1600
02:26:40,210 --> 02:26:41,830
we earned from the building.

1601
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:45,210
It can count some member for just for sake of clarity and transparency.

1602
02:26:45,870 --> 02:26:52,290
There's other building operating expenses that you noted, the utilities and some of the maintenance and the management.

1603
02:26:53,830 --> 02:27:09,850
But the total net operating costs plus the savings from our lease elimination at the other building is that $350,000 net savings that does come to the city and

1604
02:27:09,850 --> 02:27:14,270
And that net operating savings helps to pay down our debt service.

1605
02:27:14,750 --> 02:27:14,770
All right.

1606
02:27:14,930 --> 02:27:16,350
Thank you.

1607
02:27:18,380 --> 02:27:25,180
The other point I wanted to make about is that a lot is made about the cost of the building,

1608
02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:35,180
but municipalities typically hold these things for 50 years or more.

1609
02:27:35,420 --> 02:27:40,400
And when you start to do time value of money calculations, it's for a brand you probably

1610
02:27:40,400 --> 02:27:40,980
figure out.

1611
02:27:40,980 --> 02:27:47,440
be on me, but it makes that those investments a lot more reasonable.

1612
02:27:49,720 --> 02:27:51,060
But then we get down to,

1613
02:27:51,540 --> 02:27:59,840
so for me, when I analyze it, I analyze first does it make financial sense. And to me,

1614
02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:07,020
the purchase price, the money money we're going to save from least payments that we're currently

1615
02:28:07,020 --> 02:28:14,840
paying other people, the money that we're going to potentially earn from rents and parking

1616
02:28:15,540 --> 02:28:26,370
and whatever else is there to take advantage of makes that a good deal for me.

1617
02:28:26,430 --> 02:28:29,310
It's a fancy advanceals, it's a good financial deal.

1618
02:28:29,850 --> 02:28:34,070
Then the question becomes why should you buy it, and then there's some other strategic

1619
02:28:35,610 --> 02:28:51,810
And intrinsic issues that I think are real important, and that is the location of this property being in the, I mean, that's, the key one there, it's on a very critical corner in our downtown.

1620
02:28:51,810 --> 02:28:56,170
across from the Superior Court. It's a county corner from the City Hall.

1621
02:28:58,630 --> 02:29:04,150
It's in a strategic excellent location. It gives the city control

1622
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:10,370
down to that corner, but it also gives us control 300 and some parking spaces,

1623
02:29:10,770 --> 02:29:12,470
which we desperately need them downtown.

1624
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:19,860
It gives us a little bit of flexibility

1625
02:29:20,580 --> 02:29:32,960
for the city, I don't think it's our intention to take it all for us but it gives us the ability to scale up and down as we have other needs.

1626
02:29:33,220 --> 02:29:37,980
This building we're in right now is getting pretty close to the end of this useful life.

1627
02:29:38,300 --> 02:29:46,880
At some point it's going to need to be remodeled or rebuilt or something and it would give us an opportunity to relocate

1628
02:29:47,900 --> 02:29:59,260
function that we do here during that period of time, something for future city councils to worry about, but it'll be a resource that they can use at that time.

1629
02:30:00,110 --> 02:30:09,690
And the other thing I was encouraged by was that in my research, I learned that other governmental and public entities

1630
02:30:09,690 --> 02:30:15,290
that have been purchasing property downtown, and these downtown buildings, rather than leasing them.

1631
02:30:15,550 --> 02:30:24,610
And that's a critical distinction. Is that businesses just being in the downtown is great, but are they leasing or are they owning these buildings?

1632
02:30:24,610 --> 02:30:31,590
and these government agencies, the current County Superintendent of Schools, has 1675,

1633
02:30:32,150 --> 02:30:37,450
Chester Avenue, 1200 trucks to the avenue, which is the old church, and the county of

1634
02:30:37,450 --> 02:30:45,110
current in Cape K have 1318th Street. So that's encouraging to me when these agencies

1635
02:30:45,110 --> 02:30:53,290
are buying property downtown, it signals a faith in those neighborhoods.

1636
02:30:53,290 --> 02:30:56,010
So, anyway,

1637
02:30:58,260 --> 02:31:06,600
I'll get back to my point because I think it's a fair financial deal and it's a good overall purchase for the city.

1638
02:31:07,340 --> 02:31:07,780
Thank you.

1639
02:31:07,940 --> 02:31:08,260
Thank you.

1640
02:31:08,340 --> 02:31:08,640
Thank you, Councillor Mayer.

1641
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:21,460
I'm a little confused here.

1642
02:31:21,880 --> 02:31:30,760
On page nine that you have here, it shows that

1643
02:31:34,960 --> 02:31:37,580
on page nine, can you explain to me?

1644
02:31:37,580 --> 02:31:45,440
What in the world leave savings from California Avenue's base a million dollars?

1645
02:31:45,940 --> 02:31:49,380
That's a savings that we're achieving by not

1646
02:31:49,620 --> 02:31:55,020
leasing the other space where the police department has had office based on California Avenue.

1647
02:31:57,600 --> 02:31:58,680
Okay, so that

1648
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:08,420
You're seeing we're getting more money. Yeah, we're we're not having that million dollar expense any longer

1649
02:32:08,420 --> 02:32:10,520
But those folks have to go somewhere.

1650
02:32:14,940 --> 02:32:16,280
We're going to have an expense.

1651
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:18,340
I mean, that building's going to cost money.

1652
02:32:19,580 --> 02:32:21,600
If I may count somewhere, we're just to clarify.

1653
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:24,440
That is not the training academy.

1654
02:32:25,380 --> 02:32:28,780
I'm not, I'm not a training academy.

1655
02:32:28,780 --> 02:32:37,280
I'm just trying to figure out if a million dollars in here is money, a one-time deal.

1656
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:44,240
We're not going to get that every, every 12 months, we're not going to get savings from

1657
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:52,320
California Avenue space. So, Councillor Mayerware, the police department is leasing

1658
02:32:52,860 --> 02:32:58,220
on an annual basis, numerous office spaces, and an office building on California Avenue.

1659
02:32:58,620 --> 02:33:03,460
So, that is an annual expense that we're going to get that savings every year going forward.

1660
02:33:04,760 --> 02:33:07,460
But I thought you were stopping that.

1661
02:33:07,740 --> 02:33:08,020
Correct.

1662
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:15,520
By stopping that lease and moving them instead into this building, we've moved that million

1663
02:33:15,520 --> 02:33:24,600
dollars to those lease payments that are just gone each year and into the value of acquiring

1664
02:33:25,450 --> 02:33:31,880
this building, the Bank of America building, because those same dollars were paying into

1665
02:33:31,880 --> 02:33:36,340
the repayment of that loan, essentially, to acquire that building.

1666
02:33:37,180 --> 02:33:41,740
Okay, but the way this reads is, you know, it's projected,

1667
02:33:42,020 --> 02:33:46,800
net offering income is, is the minus 206,000.

1668
02:33:47,340 --> 02:33:48,080
Right? Correct.

1669
02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:53,320
Then there's the savings of, so we don't have to pay,

1670
02:33:53,900 --> 02:33:57,920
then lease anymore, so it's made dollars there.

1671
02:33:58,040 --> 02:34:00,200
Correct. Okay, and then it comes down.

1672
02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:04,580
And then the next year, we're not gonna have savings from that.

1673
02:34:04,940 --> 02:34:05,500
We will.

1674
02:34:09,130 --> 02:34:10,390
How will we?

1675
02:34:10,610 --> 02:34:15,070
Because it's an annual payment to the other building.

1676
02:34:15,490 --> 02:34:17,590
We'll have to pay a million every year, every year,

1677
02:34:17,710 --> 02:34:20,350
it's another million dollars to the other building.

1678
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:31,540
We'll make, okay, maybe I'm confused.

1679
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:36,020
We're buying a building and we already have a building.

1680
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:38,460
We don't, we don't own the other building.

1681
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:39,740
We're just, Lisa.

1682
02:34:39,900 --> 02:34:41,640
I know, and that's what's confusing me.

1683
02:34:42,520 --> 02:34:49,520
We're releasing it, boom, the lease is over, now we're on our own.

1684
02:34:49,840 --> 02:34:51,280
It's a million dollars.

1685
02:34:52,700 --> 02:34:52,820
Okay.

1686
02:34:53,640 --> 02:34:58,140
So we have that savings, but that doesn't continue on.

1687
02:34:58,260 --> 02:35:02,860
We don't get a million dollars for 12 years

1688
02:35:02,860 --> 02:35:05,540
while this tries to pay itself out.

1689
02:35:05,780 --> 02:35:07,880
I suppose if I could put it a different way, councilmember,

1690
02:35:08,060 --> 02:35:10,400
where if we stayed at the other building,

1691
02:35:11,200 --> 02:35:13,120
We would pay a million dollars a year.

1692
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:23,940
One of them trying to say is, for one, the first year you're going to get a million dollars

1693
02:35:23,940 --> 02:35:27,060
because you're not paying that. You're not paying that.

1694
02:35:27,560 --> 02:35:28,000
Correct.

1695
02:35:28,680 --> 02:35:32,340
The next year, you're going to say that you're going to pay that.

1696
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:34,780
You're not going to pay it again or you're going to pay it again.

1697
02:35:34,780 --> 02:35:36,200
We're not going to pay it.

1698
02:35:36,340 --> 02:35:43,280
Okay, so we're not going to have, we have a million dollars in here's income.

1699
02:35:43,280 --> 02:35:46,240
We're not going to have that the next year.

1700
02:35:49,990 --> 02:35:56,530
I'm doing my best counts remember, but I would just reiterate that is an ongoing savings

1701
02:35:56,530 --> 02:35:57,490
every year.

1702
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:08,860
It's ongoing savings.

1703
02:36:13,860 --> 02:36:16,540
That doesn't make any sense.

1704
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:18,220
Does it make any sense whatsoever?

1705
02:36:18,740 --> 02:36:21,060
We're going to pay this off and pay a million bucks.

1706
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:26,020
We're not going to get that money on million dollars every year.

1707
02:36:28,220 --> 02:36:37,860
So, and then we're going to take that money and we're going to do whatever we want to, but it's not going to be a savings of a million dollars every year.

1708
02:36:38,220 --> 02:36:40,440
It's a one-shot deal, one-year deal.

1709
02:36:49,400 --> 02:36:52,080
Again, I feel like I've answered this question best I can.

1710
02:36:52,380 --> 02:36:54,080
It isn't annual savings.

1711
02:36:55,940 --> 02:37:02,080
Okay. Well, maybe in years, but in the real world, you get one million dollars.

1712
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:11,200
the next year you don't get a million dollars. You have to pay it. And the whole thing is just ridiculous.

1713
02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:17,680
That's an over-spit.

1714
02:37:20,300 --> 02:37:20,840
Thank you, Mayor.

1715
02:37:25,480 --> 02:37:29,720
I think the City of Vegas field has been fiscally responsible.

1716
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:58,180
Bull over the years with various city councils. And I think that this purchase is very similar to what past city councils have done, are existing planning building department, are in a building that we purchased, that was already built city hall north, is a building that we purchased, that was already built.

1717
02:37:58,180 --> 02:38:01,240
And it's been 20 some years since we bought that building.

1718
02:38:01,880 --> 02:38:05,180
I know you weren't here, but do you know any details on that?

1719
02:38:06,480 --> 02:38:08,660
Mr. Helen has done some of that homework.

1720
02:38:08,840 --> 02:38:12,000
Believe it was purchased in 1993 for $13 million.

1721
02:38:12,700 --> 02:38:14,340
I thought it was early $2,000.

1722
02:38:14,500 --> 02:38:14,960
Or is it $1,000?

1723
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:15,760
Okay.

1724
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:17,520
How that compares?

1725
02:38:18,180 --> 02:38:18,380
I did.

1726
02:38:18,380 --> 02:38:18,980
I did some research.

1727
02:38:19,480 --> 02:38:23,880
So in 2005, it was purchased for $13 million.

1728
02:38:24,360 --> 02:38:25,440
So 21 years ago.

1729
02:38:25,680 --> 02:38:27,500
21 years ago, it's half the size.

1730
02:38:27,500 --> 02:38:37,820
And we paid 13 million, and so we're getting 21 years later, we're getting twice the building for the same amount of money.

1731
02:38:38,500 --> 02:38:38,900
Correct.

1732
02:38:39,040 --> 02:38:41,300
Seems like a good deal to me.

1733
02:38:43,620 --> 02:38:46,900
Ownership to me is always better than leasing.

1734
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:54,140
I mean, leasing as state goes on forever in 12 years from now,

1735
02:38:54,140 --> 02:39:00,640
We would continue to pay that million, probably million, two million, three by then.

1736
02:39:01,180 --> 02:39:08,640
And instead of paying that out as lease payments, we now own the building, and that

1737
02:39:08,640 --> 02:39:12,780
million, two million, three can go to higher and more police.

1738
02:39:14,860 --> 02:39:21,480
So I think it's a great deal, and I appreciate staff working on it, and I'm in favor of it.

1739
02:39:21,580 --> 02:39:22,220
Thank you.

1740
02:39:22,720 --> 02:39:23,600
Thank you.

1741
02:39:24,040 --> 02:39:29,860
Yes. Thank you Mayor. Thank you to staff for all the work that they've done on this item.

1742
02:39:29,860 --> 02:39:35,240
I think it's a great opportunity. I just have a couple of comments, but I would like to ask

1743
02:39:35,240 --> 02:39:40,540
who whoever was a part of the team who kind of did the walkthroughs and did the due diligence

1744
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:48,260
work, taking the tours, taking a look at all of the deferred maintenance. If I could ask you to

1745
02:39:48,260 --> 02:39:52,520
come to the mic, would love to learn more about what that deferred

1746
02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:57,220
mean is investigation looked like, what were the findings?

1747
02:39:59,560 --> 02:40:01,060
It's just me.

1748
02:40:02,620 --> 02:40:10,380
So we actually received direction and closed session to have external vendors

1749
02:40:10,380 --> 02:40:14,020
come in and look at all of the everything.

1750
02:40:14,020 --> 02:40:40,500
And we did, we used several vendors to look at elevators, roof, windows, all of our systems plumbing, electrical, I believe we had 11 different vendors come through and look through the building between end of March all the way up until July.

1751
02:40:41,960 --> 02:40:49,520
There were some concerns that we saw coming through the building because as was stated, it's a 50-year-old building, right?

1752
02:40:50,200 --> 02:40:59,680
So there's going to be some things that do need to be fixed, but nothing that wasn't that was a red flag as City Manager clerks had.

1753
02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:07,900
Nothing that couldn't be fixed over the next five years, ten years, that we could schedule in regular CIPs over time.

1754
02:41:07,900 --> 02:41:13,020
So some of the things that we said,

1755
02:41:13,260 --> 02:41:15,560
hey, these are really big fixes.

1756
02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:20,240
We did go back to the seller during that period of time

1757
02:41:21,200 --> 02:41:24,120
between July and coming back to Council.

1758
02:41:24,880 --> 02:41:28,200
And we had some more negotiations to say,

1759
02:41:28,220 --> 02:41:29,980
hey, these are some very large items.

1760
02:41:30,360 --> 02:41:32,020
We would like you to come down on price

1761
02:41:32,020 --> 02:41:35,720
because those are going to be heavy costs for us

1762
02:41:35,720 --> 02:41:41,840
that we need to consider over the next five years, 10 years, and so we did get a deduct and we

1763
02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:50,400
showed that in the presentation today. So, partly we feel that those ongoing maintenance things

1764
02:41:50,400 --> 02:41:57,880
we can solve over the next five years. We have an excellent property manager, so the property manager

1765
02:41:57,880 --> 02:42:02,180
is Mel Atkinson's MD Atkinson's group.

1766
02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:04,880
They had been property manager there for,

1767
02:42:05,640 --> 02:42:07,660
I don't know as long as anyone can remember,

1768
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:10,580
they know that building really well.

1769
02:42:10,800 --> 02:42:13,560
And we've already started to work with them

1770
02:42:13,560 --> 02:42:16,060
to try to address some of the immediate things

1771
02:42:16,060 --> 02:42:18,680
that we can get done before we move in.

1772
02:42:19,980 --> 02:42:21,460
So I'm going to add a quick answer to your question.

1773
02:42:21,780 --> 02:42:25,720
I was just at two quick items as Mr. Allen pointed out,

1774
02:42:25,720 --> 02:42:28,020
but it's been professionally managed over the years,

1775
02:42:28,140 --> 02:42:30,100
and so they've had a robust maintenance schedule.

1776
02:42:30,280 --> 02:42:32,920
They've kept up on the regular maintenance,

1777
02:42:33,460 --> 02:42:37,320
about a half a million dollars a year in just maintenance costs

1778
02:42:38,520 --> 02:42:42,220
that's typically expended, keep it up on things.

1779
02:42:43,260 --> 02:42:46,680
And when we talk about things that repairs we know

1780
02:42:46,680 --> 02:42:48,360
will need to happen in the next five to 10 years,

1781
02:42:48,860 --> 02:42:51,240
they aren't deferred things that have fallen behind.

1782
02:42:51,740 --> 02:42:53,640
They're just the useful life of the elevators.

1783
02:42:53,640 --> 02:42:59,460
we know is going to be up at a certain point, but that's the price of owning a building

1784
02:42:59,460 --> 02:43:02,160
as you're going to have to, every once in a while, replace it roof, every once

1785
02:43:02,160 --> 02:43:07,620
in a more, replace it in elevator, and nothing is beyond its regular life cycle.

1786
02:43:07,640 --> 02:43:10,740
We just know in the next five to ten we're going to have some of those replacements to make.

1787
02:43:12,160 --> 02:43:18,260
I'll just point out that it was just last summer that we had to replace several elevators

1788
02:43:18,260 --> 02:43:23,360
in city all north as a standard practice for owning any asset or building.

1789
02:43:24,420 --> 02:43:28,000
So I appreciate that, I know that there was some out in the community that had questions

1790
02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:33,560
about due diligence and the deferred maintenance, so I appreciate you stepping in, Gary,

1791
02:43:33,760 --> 02:43:35,480
to share that with us.

1792
02:43:36,820 --> 02:43:43,840
I would just like to make a comment that we have a responsibility to a certain degree to

1793
02:43:43,840 --> 02:43:54,060
make sure that we are ensuring that these properties, especially these larger buildings, do not

1794
02:43:54,060 --> 02:43:55,760
lay vacant for very long.

1795
02:43:57,260 --> 02:44:05,960
In 2009, I'm reminded that it was a previous council that stepped up when the Padre Hotel

1796
02:44:06,520 --> 02:44:13,140
fell short by almost $2 million during their construction and renovation project, a multimillion

1797
02:44:13,140 --> 02:44:21,260
dollar project. They tapped out all other financing mechanisms and they had nobody to look

1798
02:44:21,260 --> 02:44:26,240
to other than the city of Bakerstil and the city of Bakerstil in the council at that time

1799
02:44:26,240 --> 02:44:32,780
stepped up and borrowed money from the federal government to actually make good on that short

1800
02:44:32,780 --> 02:44:39,260
fall for the property owner. And so I shared that because this is not something new to this council

1801
02:44:39,260 --> 02:44:42,840
So this is not something new to this administration for the city of Bakersfield.

1802
02:44:42,880 --> 02:44:50,540
This is something that, you know, previous Councils have done to get creative, to innovate and to continue to fight for downtown Bakersfield.

1803
02:44:51,240 --> 02:44:55,440
So, with that, I'm happy to join my colleagues in supporting this item tonight.

1804
02:44:56,560 --> 02:44:57,640
Thank you, Council Mayor Oarius.

1805
02:44:57,900 --> 02:44:59,960
I don't see any additional requests to speak.

1806
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,100
So you have a motion by Council Member Gonzalez to support staff's recommendation. Please catch your votes.

1807
02:45:14,660 --> 02:45:19,920
The motion is approved with Council Members Weir and Bashir Tashvoting No and Vice-Mercor absent.

1808
02:45:20,740 --> 02:45:22,700
Thank you. Next item, please.

1809
02:45:24,460 --> 02:45:36,760
New Business Item 11A, contingency funds for clean city special project, $500,000 for clean up of a major illegal dumping site, consisting of 50 acres located in the southeast,

1810
02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:42,580
South of Brook Street, East of Hale Street, and adjacent to East Plans Avenue.

1811
02:45:43,440 --> 02:45:43,820
Mr. Clark.

1812
02:45:44,260 --> 02:45:44,580
Thank you, Mayor.

1813
02:45:44,660 --> 02:45:44,960
Council.

1814
02:45:45,020 --> 02:45:47,200
Mr. Gary Howell and we'll present this item.

1815
02:45:49,450 --> 02:45:49,690
All right.

1816
02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:55,050
So Council members all talk briefly about this.

1817
02:45:55,730 --> 02:46:00,310
There are several very large chronic nuisance properties in the city.

1818
02:46:00,790 --> 02:46:06,810
We have a clean city's team that focuses on many of those chronic nuisance properties.

1819
02:46:06,810 --> 02:46:13,810
basically sees not only focuses on properties that are of major issue, but also, you know, in

1820
02:46:13,810 --> 02:46:21,110
our right way and in other areas, but this has been one that they are codenforcement or rapid

1821
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:30,070
response. All of the teams have been focusing on over the last several years. In fact, today,

1822
02:46:30,730 --> 02:46:36,570
I don't know the exact number, but I know we've had multiple rounds of cleanup from our codenforcement

1823
02:46:36,570 --> 02:46:43,630
team of this site. And as you will see through the presentation, it's just band-dades over a

1824
02:46:43,630 --> 02:46:50,710
bullhole. They're making small dents and trying to do some cleanup here, but the scale and the

1825
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:55,870
condition of the site is getting to a point where it's becoming a real help and safety risk.

1826
02:46:56,070 --> 02:47:05,150
So that's what we're before you tonight. The other thing I want to add is their images you're

1827
02:47:05,150 --> 02:47:08,470
are because of our excellent drones.

1828
02:47:09,030 --> 02:47:11,830
There's been some talk about cameras and drones.

1829
02:47:12,210 --> 02:47:13,510
I mean, I'm a believer in technology,

1830
02:47:14,050 --> 02:47:16,250
so I believe let's use it if we have it.

1831
02:47:16,250 --> 02:47:18,810
Our water department has some incredible drones

1832
02:47:18,810 --> 02:47:23,250
because they need them to monitor and manage our water facilities.

1833
02:47:23,510 --> 02:47:26,430
So they've helped us out taking some still shots

1834
02:47:26,430 --> 02:47:29,770
of some of the most difficult areas.

1835
02:47:30,370 --> 02:47:33,770
I will say the majority of this debris

1836
02:47:33,770 --> 02:47:40,670
is probably construction debris is what I would call it, whether it's I don't

1837
02:47:40,670 --> 02:47:45,890
think we'd have we have too much wood debris there was a comment about there's

1838
02:47:45,890 --> 02:47:50,750
a lot of wood debris out there there there's some wood debris out there but mostly

1839
02:47:50,750 --> 02:47:57,510
construction you'll see chunks massive chunks of asphalt, massive chunks of

1840
02:47:57,510 --> 02:48:05,630
So instead of going to the dump, they use the site, you'll see pallets, you'll see drywall,

1841
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:11,230
you'll see a boat, you'll see abandoned cars, you'll see abandoned trailers.

1842
02:48:12,310 --> 02:48:17,230
So it's, again, one of our, one of our largest efforts.

1843
02:48:17,530 --> 02:48:22,550
And it's been difficult for the private property to defend it.

1844
02:48:22,550 --> 02:48:29,290
and we'll talk a little bit more about our work with the private property owner, and he's here tonight.

1845
02:48:29,830 --> 02:48:38,070
If you represent his or here tonight as well, I think another major issue on this site is there are a large number of people living there.

1846
02:48:38,450 --> 02:48:47,670
This is where they call home. Some of these drone images, you'll see where they've created these tents and shanties and

1847
02:48:47,670 --> 02:48:57,810
and villages, which that's a very unsafe place to to call your place of home there. So

1848
02:48:57,810 --> 02:49:04,370
part of this cleanup is a coordinated effort with making sure that homeless resources are

1849
02:49:04,370 --> 02:49:08,970
brought out there so these people can can be moved off on the appropriate way.

1850
02:49:14,720 --> 02:49:19,760
Just a little bit on clean cities. There's probably seven departments that are

1851
02:49:19,760 --> 02:49:27,260
and zone in this effort. So I think it's probably the largest multi-department effort that

1852
02:49:27,260 --> 02:49:33,020
we've got in the city. I'm proud of those teams. I know we did a larger presentation to

1853
02:49:33,020 --> 02:49:41,700
Council previously on what's going on there. But that image to the right is really probably

1854
02:49:41,700 --> 02:49:49,680
the most inhabited part of that area. And it's right in the heart of some of the parcels and

1855
02:49:49,680 --> 02:49:54,480
We'll zoom out to some of the maps, but these teams work very well together.

1856
02:49:54,640 --> 02:50:01,440
I will say the coordination is excellent, impact team or BPD team is working well with rapid

1857
02:50:01,440 --> 02:50:02,060
response.

1858
02:50:02,220 --> 02:50:07,660
They have co-response teams that work hand in hand and solid waste is right there with them.

1859
02:50:07,860 --> 02:50:15,900
Again, we've got a river, water department that helps us park rangers or helping and then we've

1860
02:50:15,900 --> 02:50:22,780
outside partners with other vendors that come and help on private jobs and then obviously

1861
02:50:22,780 --> 02:50:32,340
of property owners. So this is the effort that we're asking to undertake with some

1862
02:50:32,340 --> 02:50:37,080
of these funds that we're asking to come out of contingencies. Obviously we need to remove

1863
02:50:37,080 --> 02:50:44,760
the debris and help remove the homeless. We need to make sure that we're continuing to take

1864
02:50:44,760 --> 02:50:50,400
appropriate steps and appropriate measures. Obviously, this is going to happen over time,

1865
02:50:50,540 --> 02:50:55,600
this is not going to happen tomorrow. We're not going to run out there and do this if approved,

1866
02:50:56,220 --> 02:51:03,760
but it'll take some time to tease some of this stuff up. And then lastly, the biggest problem

1867
02:51:03,760 --> 02:51:09,860
is people can just drive in here and we'll I'll show you some of the sections of the maps where

1868
02:51:09,860 --> 02:51:14,340
this is why construction debris is on this side, it's because people just drive their trucks in

1869
02:51:14,340 --> 02:51:19,940
and unload here. And so we've got to pinch those off and put barriers there in some

1870
02:51:19,940 --> 02:51:28,680
of these locations and we've got kind of a plan and a map that outlines. So this is that

1871
02:51:28,680 --> 02:51:34,860
some of those maps, so to share a little bit of where this is. So this is we're calling it

1872
02:51:34,860 --> 02:51:40,420
our East Plan site because it's basically as far east as you can go on plans before you get to

1873
02:51:40,420 --> 02:51:50,240
treatment plant too. It's right next to Hale, Hale Street, and Brook Street. It's just east of

1874
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:59,120
Cottonwood or South MLK. And some of these barriers that we've been able to track down is actually through

1875
02:51:59,120 --> 02:52:06,140
our code through our public worship apartment, has that a killer job of finding about 100 sticks of

1876
02:52:06,140 --> 02:52:12,400
which is about 2000 feet. We would need to procure that with some of this money that we're

1877
02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:19,040
asking to be set aside. We've worked with the property owner and they have agreed to put in

1878
02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:25,020
some gates at some of these difficult points. There's already some berms there so if you're saying

1879
02:52:25,020 --> 02:52:29,360
we just put in the whole thing, you know, with electrified Fencing K-Rail.

1880
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:34,040
We just don't have that much money, but some of the berms provide a barrier.

1881
02:52:36,980 --> 02:52:42,040
The other site that's just south of this isn't really not saying this is an area that needs

1882
02:52:42,040 --> 02:52:48,820
to be cleaned up, but it's an access, almost like a highway to get to this dumping site.

1883
02:52:48,960 --> 02:52:56,040
And so this is a little further south. It's south of Brook, white lane. You can see it goes dead ends

1884
02:52:56,040 --> 02:52:57,840
right into the middle of this site.

1885
02:52:58,140 --> 02:53:01,860
But we've identified K-ray on barriers and gates.

1886
02:53:02,400 --> 02:53:06,120
Part of having gates there, you may be asking that question.

1887
02:53:06,580 --> 02:53:10,480
Because fire does need to get into this site.

1888
02:53:10,660 --> 02:53:12,760
And so they'll have noxboxes on it.

1889
02:53:13,340 --> 02:53:16,320
So fires only one can access it if they need to put out fires

1890
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:17,980
or in the middle of this site.

1891
02:53:18,160 --> 02:53:20,500
They'll be able to access it.

1892
02:53:20,500 --> 02:53:24,500
Again, fire was a part of this team to help us identify

1893
02:53:24,500 --> 02:53:33,840
appropriate locations. So this is the funding and the plan. We're asking for $500,000 of

1894
02:53:34,960 --> 02:53:43,540
CAP contingency funds to make a really big dent in this health and safety area. This is a

1895
02:53:43,540 --> 02:53:50,920
referral from council number RAS to set aside some money and contingency funds and really to partner

1896
02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:58,620
with the property owner. The key point as part of this is whatever resources we're spending,

1897
02:53:59,140 --> 02:54:04,920
we are going to lean the property owner. We've told property owner this, this is part of what we do,

1898
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:11,340
is ultimately if there's a transaction in a cell, those lanes are paid off. And so we do

1899
02:54:11,340 --> 02:54:19,280
recoup our money when there's a transaction that's a part of this. So there's one piece of property

1900
02:54:19,280 --> 02:54:21,240
that's an outside area owner.

1901
02:54:21,900 --> 02:54:25,840
And then the rest of the property is owned by Mr. Serra.

1902
02:54:26,900 --> 02:54:29,460
So some of these lanes, you know,

1903
02:54:29,500 --> 02:54:34,000
have transacted on could be repaid, which is a good thing

1904
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:36,480
for us to recoup some of this investment.

1905
02:54:37,500 --> 02:54:41,180
Obviously, there needs to be ongoing enforcement after this.

1906
02:54:41,340 --> 02:54:47,500
And so that again is a part of the plan for this major site.

1907
02:54:49,820 --> 02:54:52,880
Thank you, Mr. Helen. Mr. Clerk, do you have any further comments?

1908
02:54:53,340 --> 02:54:54,640
Thank you, Mayor. I do not.

1909
02:54:54,980 --> 02:55:00,520
Thank you and Madam City Clerk for the record. Council member, where has left.

1910
02:55:00,520 --> 02:55:02,380
He's up to eight. PM.

1911
02:55:03,160 --> 02:55:04,040
Council member, Areas.

1912
02:55:05,420 --> 02:55:05,880
Thank you, Mayor.

1913
02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:09,200
Thank you, Gary, for the presentation and thanks.

1914
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:14,540
We call Gary our quarterback or our head coach for all of the major master planning

1915
02:55:14,540 --> 02:55:16,920
and development that's happening out in MLK Boulevard,

1916
02:55:16,940 --> 02:55:21,100
and he's just been amazing with every punch

1917
02:55:21,100 --> 02:55:24,720
that has thrown our way, Gary's, Gary's ready for it.

1918
02:55:25,640 --> 02:55:28,300
So definitely appreciate you, Gary.

1919
02:55:29,380 --> 02:55:32,200
Last Tuesday, I was out at this property,

1920
02:55:33,940 --> 02:55:39,060
went there around 730, Nuri's, who was here earlier today,

1921
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:41,800
made comment about some other issues that were having in the neighborhood,

1922
02:55:41,800 --> 02:55:47,920
Walked it with me and actually organized a good group of about 12 different residents.

1923
02:55:49,060 --> 02:55:54,420
And imagine this, you walk behind your property into what should be your backyard.

1924
02:55:55,700 --> 02:56:00,760
And you've got mountains of debris, concrete, just spread everywhere.

1925
02:56:01,420 --> 02:56:03,900
You've got homeless encampments all around.

1926
02:56:05,060 --> 02:56:10,700
In fact, there was about six or so dogs that were trying to chase this off the property.

1927
02:56:10,700 --> 02:56:27,920
And as we walked deeper into this essentially dump site, we were actually getting yelled at by some of the individuals who were homeless and requesting that we get off of their property.

1928
02:56:29,240 --> 02:56:37,120
Can you imagine that as a property owner, if your house is just a rocks throw away from where

1929
02:56:37,120 --> 02:56:37,960
you're at?

1930
02:56:38,620 --> 02:56:44,840
That was the reality for so many of these individuals later that evening there was actually

1931
02:56:44,840 --> 02:56:52,120
a vehicle that drove up right beside us, they waved right past us and they thought that

1932
02:56:52,120 --> 02:56:56,760
they were going to pull into their backyard instead they pulled into one of the homeless

1933
02:56:56,760 --> 02:57:02,800
So there are vehicles in use, there are vehicles that are out of use that have been dumped

1934
02:57:02,800 --> 02:57:04,240
on the site.

1935
02:57:04,680 --> 02:57:05,460
It's out of control.

1936
02:57:06,400 --> 02:57:12,040
And there are certainly other hotspots in Ward 1 and in Southeast Bakersfield.

1937
02:57:12,940 --> 02:57:14,760
Nothing quite like this.

1938
02:57:15,560 --> 02:57:23,640
And so I would just ask that this Council will take this into serious consideration that this is not just an

1939
02:57:23,640 --> 02:57:25,500
investment on this particular property.

1940
02:57:25,800 --> 02:57:27,900
But actually, I see this as an opportunity for us

1941
02:57:29,020 --> 02:57:31,580
to procure some of the materials and equipment

1942
02:57:31,580 --> 02:57:35,800
that we're going to be able to need to prevent future dumping.

1943
02:57:35,880 --> 02:57:38,120
Because we know that as soon as we block off,

1944
02:57:38,500 --> 02:57:42,660
this particular 40 acres, folks are going to go somewhere else.

1945
02:57:43,140 --> 02:57:45,260
And so I hope that we have our team

1946
02:57:45,260 --> 02:57:47,200
who's ready as soon as we bait this,

1947
02:57:47,280 --> 02:57:51,000
we're going to have to prepare for where folks

1948
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:53,400
are going to go next in order to dump.

1949
02:57:53,700 --> 02:57:57,980
I might also add that also towards the end of last Tuesday,

1950
02:57:58,740 --> 02:58:01,920
as we were getting ready to finish the conversation,

1951
02:58:02,340 --> 02:58:05,780
there was a clearly a company vehicle

1952
02:58:05,780 --> 02:58:10,200
who had just gotten done dumping just a few moments

1953
02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:14,220
before we were able to actually see them do get caught in the act.

1954
02:58:14,920 --> 02:58:16,940
So it's an ongoing problem.

1955
02:58:18,060 --> 02:58:19,980
I think that there are certainly some things

1956
02:58:19,980 --> 02:58:24,860
that we could do better on the enforcement side of the problem.

1957
02:58:25,600 --> 02:58:30,900
I'm grateful to Chief Stratton, who we had a great conversation about some of the ways

1958
02:58:30,900 --> 02:58:37,660
that we can tackle from an enforcement standpoint, but certainly in order to move projects

1959
02:58:38,420 --> 02:58:44,700
forward and to see growth in Southeast Bakersfield, that this is going to be one of the

1960
02:58:44,700 --> 02:58:47,180
essential steps in order to make that happen.

1961
02:58:47,180 --> 02:58:51,060
So with that, I would like to move approval of this item.

1962
02:58:51,660 --> 02:58:54,080
And look forward to any questions or comments for my colleague.

1963
02:58:54,760 --> 02:58:54,820
Thank you.

1964
02:58:54,820 --> 02:58:55,040
Thank you.

1965
02:58:55,060 --> 02:58:57,120
Thank you, Commissioner Ares, Council Member Beeschier, Cash.

1966
02:59:02,970 --> 02:59:08,210
Is this city property or is this owned by a private person, slash company?

1967
02:59:09,870 --> 02:59:10,870
It is private property.

1968
02:59:11,330 --> 02:59:11,750
It is private property.

1969
02:59:11,750 --> 02:59:16,590
Why is city spending the rest of the taxpayer money to help one person in his property?

1970
02:59:17,630 --> 02:59:18,070
he doesn't remember.

1971
02:59:18,470 --> 02:59:19,870
I think that's a good question.

1972
02:59:20,430 --> 02:59:26,790
Typically, when we have large abatements like this that pose a public health and safety risk,

1973
02:59:27,470 --> 02:59:34,570
we'll do code enforcement action, abate the property, and then assess the costs to that property

1974
02:59:34,570 --> 02:59:36,790
that were taxpayer costs to later be recovered.

1975
02:59:37,910 --> 02:59:41,690
So I have 10 acres down by Cal State LA, just vacant land.

1976
02:59:41,890 --> 02:59:45,750
As soon as the grass gets over like a certain height, I get a letter in the mail threatening

1977
02:59:45,750 --> 02:59:49,210
thousands of dollars that they're going to cut to lean on my property and take my property

1978
02:59:49,210 --> 02:59:54,170
Anyway, if I don't, I just think of all the mom-and-bops that are closing doors, just

1979
02:59:54,170 --> 02:59:57,470
got notice of a grocery store closing in my ward because of this, I don't understand

1980
02:59:57,470 --> 02:59:59,970
why we're spending, we're going to spend a half a million dollars of clean.

1981
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,900
Now, with all the respect, I mean, if you buy a piece of property, you should take care of it. I would hate to call the city if someone's dog group to my friend yard and made the city come pick it up. Am I missing something? Was this, was this, what are we doing? Why are we on the hook for this? I don't understand. Again, council member, three different thoughts. One, this is at the council discretion, whether or not to allocate additional dollars to go and.

1982
03:00:30,580 --> 03:00:32,020
to pursue this abatement.

1983
03:00:32,200 --> 03:00:39,020
We don't have the money in our budget to do an abatement of this size proactively to then assess it against the property.

1984
03:00:40,880 --> 03:00:44,960
And so this would front load that, but that's going to subject to the purview of the council.

1985
03:00:45,700 --> 03:00:50,400
Number two, we have a two to some of your points.

1986
03:00:51,080 --> 03:00:54,900
We've done much of the same things you mentioned.

1987
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:55,660
We've sent letters.

1988
03:00:55,660 --> 03:01:02,200
we've done code enforcement, you know, actions on this property, but there, at a certain point,

1989
03:01:02,760 --> 03:01:08,660
there is a public good need to do some of these large statements to ensure that, you know,

1990
03:01:08,680 --> 03:01:12,940
these type of conditions don't continue. But, and I've sort of already mentioned it, but

1991
03:01:12,940 --> 03:01:19,340
lastly, ultimately, it is the property owner's responsibility. We're stepping in for the public

1992
03:01:19,340 --> 03:01:24,800
good to make that happen more quickly. And again, try to recover those costs later.

1993
03:01:25,400 --> 03:01:30,700
So, this is 100% the owners responsibility to do, that is correct.

1994
03:01:30,880 --> 03:01:36,940
Might I just add I think there is an enforcement aspect that I think that is appropriate

1995
03:01:36,940 --> 03:01:42,220
for us to aid in and assist in, but it is the property under responsibility.

1996
03:01:43,240 --> 03:01:43,400
Yeah.

1997
03:01:43,880 --> 03:01:48,280
I mean, I definitely feel because, you know, we deal with, I mean, they go out and if they arrest

1998
03:01:48,280 --> 03:01:51,340
every homeless person there, they're going to be in and out of Lerado the same day and

1999
03:01:51,340 --> 03:01:54,480
we're going to be dealing with the same problem, but that's the spikes, that's the size

2000
03:01:54,480 --> 03:01:58,240
a point because every other business owner that gets terrorized by these people that we seem

2001
03:01:58,240 --> 03:02:01,980
to not be able to deal with because we don't have the money to deal with them.

2002
03:02:02,380 --> 03:02:03,880
They have to pay to fix their businesses.

2003
03:02:04,160 --> 03:02:07,540
That lady who got her business window shot out probably had to pay for her window to be

2004
03:02:07,540 --> 03:02:07,900
repaired.

2005
03:02:09,680 --> 03:02:15,580
This sets such a dangerous precedent as a council for the rest of the city.

2006
03:02:15,740 --> 03:02:17,920
I mean, that's this scares me.

2007
03:02:18,060 --> 03:02:21,420
I mean, I could only imagine what would come down the tube when any other business.

2008
03:02:21,420 --> 03:02:29,420
I mean, I spend $360,000 a year on private security to deal with this kind of stuff, it would...

2009
03:02:33,680 --> 03:02:37,120
I have nothing else to say, I mean, I'm just, I'm kind of shocked.

2010
03:02:46,270 --> 03:02:46,990
Councilmember Smith.

2011
03:02:49,300 --> 03:02:49,740
Thank you, Mayor.

2012
03:02:51,360 --> 03:02:54,220
So, I want to explore the lane idea a little bit.

2013
03:02:55,520 --> 03:02:59,040
So, you said there will be a lane on the property.

2014
03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:04,440
This burns can probably speak to it.

2015
03:03:04,560 --> 03:03:08,800
Code enforcement on a regular basis brings their

2016
03:03:09,400 --> 03:03:12,480
leans to council and I think month after I was going to say

2017
03:03:12,480 --> 03:03:14,640
on my every time we've got them 40.

2018
03:03:14,760 --> 03:03:15,060
That's right.

2019
03:03:15,740 --> 03:03:16,220
That's right.

2020
03:03:16,780 --> 03:03:17,140
That's right.

2021
03:03:17,420 --> 03:03:18,340
This would be counseling.

2022
03:03:18,600 --> 03:03:20,840
So it's very similar situation.

2023
03:03:21,240 --> 03:03:22,160
We do it all the time.

2024
03:03:22,400 --> 03:03:25,460
We go out and we clean up property and we put a lean on.

2025
03:03:25,680 --> 03:03:26,440
That's correct.

2026
03:03:27,420 --> 03:03:30,760
But I mean, this obviously is much more substantial.

2027
03:03:31,580 --> 03:03:57,760
So, this is future development property, yes, and so, if they come in with a final map, I mean, I'm trying to visualize how this lean is paid back is it as you sell a house as you record maps, is it all one shot, but how do we really visualize how it's getting paid off?

2028
03:04:04,330 --> 03:04:11,930
Councilman Smith, it the leans get placed on the tax roll, how it would roll to some

2029
03:04:11,930 --> 03:04:14,770
subdivision. I'm not sure how that would play out.

2030
03:04:18,060 --> 03:04:19,600
This is kind of a typical process

2031
03:04:19,600 --> 03:04:25,160
of a good enforcement case. If you think about like our demo on just traveling, same thing,

2032
03:04:25,340 --> 03:04:34,880
very, very sizable, way exceeds our budget funds to do an action. So I guess I see this

2033
03:04:35,960 --> 03:04:44,200
similar to to others, large cleanups that we have, not exactly sure how a track map would

2034
03:04:44,200 --> 03:04:52,520
impact funding or if that would, it had to have a title person how that would work out.

2035
03:04:52,560 --> 03:04:58,840
Well I mean, the question is, do I expect it to be payback all a once or as it's parceled

2036
03:05:01,080 --> 03:05:08,320
We typically, our leans are not paid back all at once and often they're part of a payback

2037
03:05:08,320 --> 03:05:13,480
pool that just gets, you know, that comes in in smaller increments over time.

2038
03:05:13,720 --> 03:05:18,660
Well, I mean typically it's, yeah, random lots here, they're everywhere, but if this is

2039
03:05:18,660 --> 03:05:26,780
one, so then, and we food thought as it gets subdivided, how are we going to work through

2040
03:05:26,780 --> 03:05:31,460
But the point is, is it will get paid back

2041
03:05:33,510 --> 03:05:37,690
if it's developed and it's got a lot better

2042
03:05:37,690 --> 03:05:40,990
chance of being developed if it's cleaned up.

2043
03:05:42,030 --> 03:05:47,690
The access you mentioned there's berms, I mean it looks like from the picture, yeah, I could

2044
03:05:47,690 --> 03:05:55,270
just drive my dump truck on plans road, but there is, I didn't see a picture, yeah, we didn't

2045
03:05:55,270 --> 03:05:56,250
show pictures.

2046
03:05:56,250 --> 03:06:00,110
So there are berms all along those other access.

2047
03:06:01,170 --> 03:06:08,010
Yes, so you, I think there's significant berms on the very east side.

2048
03:06:08,150 --> 03:06:09,790
You can see that there's that road.

2049
03:06:10,270 --> 03:06:16,470
So adjacent, if we zoomed out a little bit, you'll see that we have our farm, one of our

2050
03:06:16,470 --> 03:06:16,590
farm.

2051
03:06:16,630 --> 03:06:17,510
Right to the east.

2052
03:06:18,650 --> 03:06:23,810
So you see that that road, there's a berm there that's on that side, and then on

2053
03:06:23,810 --> 03:06:24,930
plans there's also a berm.

2054
03:06:24,930 --> 03:06:35,500
Okay, so the K-Rail is so that all-long plans is difficult to access because of the burn.

2055
03:06:35,960 --> 03:06:39,500
Yeah, just the roads that go through that we need to.

2056
03:06:39,920 --> 03:06:45,820
The section that's in that northwest corner is where people are entering now.

2057
03:06:46,020 --> 03:06:51,640
You can drive along the very western edge down and then loop down

2058
03:06:51,640 --> 03:06:57,220
or you can just get in immediately and then head over on the east side.

2059
03:06:59,100 --> 03:07:02,560
So, is there existing signage?

2060
03:07:02,680 --> 03:07:09,820
I mean, that is part of, because what's going to be added in it is part of its education.

2061
03:07:10,540 --> 03:07:14,360
If it looks like a dump, it must be a dump, and I go take my stuff there,

2062
03:07:16,380 --> 03:07:17,540
if there's no

2063
03:07:17,540 --> 03:07:21,840
signing saying, you know, the real dump is at this other location.

2064
03:07:23,260 --> 03:07:27,640
We can certainly add that to the project that's easy to post signs.

2065
03:07:28,140 --> 03:07:29,960
We did just a few weeks.

2066
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:38,720
Weeks ago got the no trespassing and so we'll be installing those no trespassing signs with this project as well.

2067
03:07:38,900 --> 03:07:57,920
Great. Well I think it's a good investment. We're going to get paid back and we clean up the neighborhood and move it forward. Just like we do. All the other property statements that we see is just a different scale. Good work. Thank you.

2068
03:07:57,920 --> 03:08:05,320
Thank you, Council Member Smith, and City Clerk, Council Member, where has returned and he retorted 809.

2069
03:08:06,120 --> 03:08:06,960
Council Member Gonzalez.

2070
03:08:08,180 --> 03:08:08,500
Thank you, Mayor.

2071
03:08:09,860 --> 03:08:11,660
Okay, so I appreciate in the presentation.

2072
03:08:11,940 --> 03:08:17,320
You said the cleanup alone will not solve the problem because that had been on my mind for a few days now.

2073
03:08:18,180 --> 03:08:26,660
The last thing I want us to do is try to bait the property only to see this problem continue and have us, you know, back here again trying to resolve this issue.

2074
03:08:26,660 --> 03:08:33,360
I'm just going to clarify, I thought I heard there's two properties that are problematic

2075
03:08:33,360 --> 03:08:43,430
or between this map and so there's actually five parcels that are between these two

2076
03:08:43,430 --> 03:08:50,630
maps. So there's two parcels on this map. There's the northern parcel that is adjacent

2077
03:08:50,630 --> 03:08:58,270
he's plans, and then if Brook kept going, you'd see that there's the parcel that's just above

2078
03:08:58,270 --> 03:09:05,930
Brook, and then as we go to this, so this is just south of that Brook Street, so between

2079
03:09:05,930 --> 03:09:13,070
Brook and White and between White and the end of that map, those are there are three more

2080
03:09:13,070 --> 03:09:19,550
parcels in that section there. Okay, so with all those five parcels, how many unique,

2081
03:09:19,550 --> 03:09:26,150
different property owners are there. I believe there's two owners. Yeah, two unique owners. Okay and

2082
03:09:26,150 --> 03:09:31,570
and one owner has been responsible or have they both been responsible? So one owner is here tonight

2083
03:09:31,570 --> 03:09:41,970
at this meeting and one owner has been very difficult to engage with. And so this 500,000 is to

2084
03:09:41,970 --> 03:09:51,410
address all parcels, all five parcels. It's to address all five parcels related to being able

2085
03:09:51,410 --> 03:09:57,510
to get into the site, to more to make it impenetrable. And then the majority of the cleanup

2086
03:09:57,510 --> 03:10:04,690
is here on these two parcels. That's where the majority of, where the homeless living were

2087
03:10:04,690 --> 03:10:06,310
most of the dumping has occurred.

2088
03:10:06,650 --> 03:10:10,830
There is some dumping on these two parcels,

2089
03:10:11,730 --> 03:10:15,330
but the lion's share of what the team has assessed

2090
03:10:15,330 --> 03:10:19,490
and some of the bids that we're starting not bids,

2091
03:10:20,050 --> 03:10:22,710
but evaluation that we've gotten from some of the teams,

2092
03:10:24,230 --> 03:10:26,310
it's in these two parcels,

2093
03:10:26,610 --> 03:10:28,130
which is where it most of the dumping's been occurring.

2094
03:10:28,250 --> 03:10:29,170
Okay, got it.

2095
03:10:29,450 --> 03:10:32,350
Okay, because typically when we have chronic nuisance properties,

2096
03:10:32,350 --> 03:10:40,070
The reason why their chronic nuisance properties is because the property owner has been

2097
03:10:40,070 --> 03:10:43,650
unresponsive for extended period of time.

2098
03:10:43,970 --> 03:10:48,670
Code enforcement has done a great job trying to address the issue, trying to cite the

2099
03:10:48,670 --> 03:10:54,910
property owner much to Mr. Tash's point with his experience in properties in NLA.

2100
03:10:56,150 --> 03:11:01,030
Code enforcement does that, but still, the property owner remains unresponsive, does not

2101
03:11:01,030 --> 03:11:07,570
do anything with the property and so it leaves the city with no other choice but to take some sort

2102
03:11:07,570 --> 03:11:14,930
of action. Because without that action, there's such a negative impact to the surrounding

2103
03:11:14,930 --> 03:11:22,350
neighborhood, to the poor residents like Mr. Arya's constituent and they end up having to pay

2104
03:11:22,350 --> 03:11:29,490
that negative externality by being impacted by all of these things that happen on this property.

2105
03:11:29,490 --> 03:11:33,210
So ultimately, the city has to respond through code enforcement.

2106
03:11:34,270 --> 03:11:43,590
The issue here is that the cost to mitigate to address this problem, far exceeds the

2107
03:11:43,590 --> 03:11:47,590
code enforcement's budget to address these issues.

2108
03:11:47,650 --> 03:11:49,890
And that's why this item is coming today.

2109
03:11:50,130 --> 03:11:52,530
This is not unique to the city.

2110
03:11:52,650 --> 03:11:57,950
I mean, the city does this stuff all the time, but what is unique is the dollar amount for

2111
03:11:57,950 --> 03:12:02,910
particular property. And I think that's the challenge that I'm trying to

2112
03:12:02,910 --> 03:12:05,390
wrap around in my head because I'm not sure,

2113
03:12:08,390 --> 03:12:10,610
just as a policy matter,

2114
03:12:16,880 --> 03:12:17,380
I'm not

2115
03:12:17,380 --> 03:12:21,380
quite sure as a policy matter, given the fact that we have a responsive

2116
03:12:21,380 --> 03:12:28,940
property owner, how we should best proceed. You know, one of the ideas

2117
03:12:28,940 --> 03:12:34,540
that we've initiated a few years ago that I think

2118
03:12:34,540 --> 03:12:37,120
was one of the best ideas for the city of Bakerfield

2119
03:12:37,120 --> 03:12:43,000
is this receivership program is allowing for us to bring in the courts to help us

2120
03:12:43,000 --> 03:12:47,320
take and make some action on these properties. And we've done some good work in my

2121
03:12:47,320 --> 03:12:51,720
award and actually throughout the city now because of that tool to address some of these

2122
03:12:51,720 --> 03:12:57,820
chronic nuisance properties. But here that's not the case. Let me ask you a couple more

2123
03:12:57,820 --> 03:13:00,040
questions before I throw out some ideas.

2124
03:13:00,660 --> 03:13:05,600
One is, have we spent some time observing the rate

2125
03:13:05,600 --> 03:13:10,160
at which the construction debris has accumulated the property?

2126
03:13:13,940 --> 03:13:19,440
I think code monitors this property,

2127
03:13:20,700 --> 03:13:25,560
and they would be the best person to answer that.

2128
03:13:25,560 --> 03:13:33,900
I know in the last four years that we've been talking about this property, it has evident flow of

2129
03:13:33,900 --> 03:13:41,040
because of code has taken certain actions to reduce some of that construction debris, and then it just comes right back.

2130
03:13:41,140 --> 03:13:51,780
And I don't know how fast it comes back and the frequency and when are the peaks and valleys of that, I'm not sure, but we can research that.

2131
03:13:51,780 --> 03:13:55,720
It would be helpful to know because, I mean, the pretty nasty photos, it's awful looking.

2132
03:13:57,080 --> 03:14:03,620
But, you know, is that after a year, is that after a week, is that after a month, it would

2133
03:14:03,620 --> 03:14:09,320
be helpful to know really the severity of the issue, because, you know, there are some other

2134
03:14:09,320 --> 03:14:12,020
steps that have weren't listed here that I think we ought to take.

2135
03:14:12,100 --> 03:14:15,000
Number one is, you know, we invested significantly.

2136
03:14:15,000 --> 03:14:23,060
this council has invested in bulky waste clean-ups and doing mobile clean-ups and mobile pick

2137
03:14:23,060 --> 03:14:29,080
are what do we call it mobile pick up mobile location drop off drop off thank you thank you

2138
03:14:29,080 --> 03:14:36,240
but you know again part of our clean city initiative we have more services now available to

2139
03:14:36,240 --> 03:14:43,640
as an instance, I think, ever, we need to, I like, you know, Mr.

2140
03:14:43,720 --> 03:14:51,900
Lagi's comment, we need to be more proactive in our effort to do outreach to these construction

2141
03:14:51,900 --> 03:14:52,340
companies.

2142
03:14:52,580 --> 03:14:59,860
And also, I would like us to, in-profits has already been done, but I would like us to

2143
03:14:59,860 --> 03:14:59,980
spin.

2144
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:12,580
And some more time on-site, either through private security, existing private security contract, or by-staff, to monitor

2145
03:15:12,580 --> 03:15:22,380
those bad actors, and to, in real time, provide them some education of what the appropriate process is.

2146
03:15:22,380 --> 03:15:28,300
That this, in fact, is not dumping site to Mr. Smith's comment earlier.

2147
03:15:31,000 --> 03:15:37,860
But the last thing I think is that this really is about economic development.

2148
03:15:38,120 --> 03:15:41,980
This is really ultimately what we want to do here is not just clean up the site.

2149
03:15:42,520 --> 03:15:48,360
If we zoom out from a city council perspective, but we really want to see, and we really

2150
03:15:48,360 --> 03:15:55,000
want to see with all of these chronic news properties is a better and higher use of that property.

2151
03:15:55,540 --> 03:16:02,740
What we want to see on this particular property, all these parcels, are new construction,

2152
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:07,980
you know, new homes, housing development, we want to see, you know, families living on

2153
03:16:07,980 --> 03:16:08,520
these properties.

2154
03:16:08,760 --> 03:16:10,840
Ultimately, that is the solution.

2155
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:14,200
So the question now, my mind is, how do we get there?

2156
03:16:14,660 --> 03:16:16,980
How do we get to that development?

2157
03:16:16,980 --> 03:16:29,790
Obviously, this particular problem is a real burden barrier to to see that property developed.

2158
03:16:30,130 --> 03:16:37,490
And so from my lens, I don't see this as a response to a nuisance in the way of code enforcement.

2159
03:16:37,490 --> 03:16:40,210
I really see this as an economic development tool.

2160
03:16:41,030 --> 03:16:45,150
So similar to what we do with tax increment financing, for example,

2161
03:16:45,150 --> 03:17:12,930
Where, again, there is a president set where we may offer a certain incentive to a developer because we know that over the course of the project that the revenue generated by a better use through property tax increases will allow the city to actually recoup those funds in the future.

2162
03:17:14,130 --> 03:17:16,770
That's the way I kind of take a look at this project.

2163
03:17:17,170 --> 03:17:21,170
And so I understand there may not be, you know,

2164
03:17:21,370 --> 03:17:25,950
I know that there may not be a TIFF mechanism for this particular

2165
03:17:25,950 --> 03:17:27,890
development, this particular use.

2166
03:17:28,130 --> 03:17:30,730
I know that the, what is it?

2167
03:17:30,830 --> 03:17:35,810
The EIFDs typically are related to public infrastructure

2168
03:17:35,810 --> 03:17:39,230
investments and specifically for affordable housing.

2169
03:17:39,230 --> 03:17:55,830
So, I'm not sure there's a good mechanism yet that the state has provided for cities, but I think that through that lens I can see us pursuing this strategy, you know, again for the purposes of economic development.

2170
03:18:00,300 --> 03:18:02,640
So, yeah, I'll support it. Thanks.

2171
03:18:03,940 --> 03:18:05,940
Thank you, consumer with Gonzales, consumer with Coleman.

2172
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:11,620
Thank you, Mayor.

2173
03:18:12,780 --> 03:18:18,620
So, I have similar policy matter concerns about this.

2174
03:18:22,190 --> 03:18:31,330
First of all, this is the same property that the more partners were here about last meeting

2175
03:18:31,330 --> 03:18:37,810
where they had spent money and then you know what I'm talking about?

2176
03:18:38,110 --> 03:18:39,990
Yeah, let me go there.

2177
03:18:40,890 --> 03:18:42,370
That's the property of the.

2178
03:18:42,370 --> 03:18:50,630
Okay, so they already spent money cleaning this up, and then the offenders went and dumped more stuff on there.

2179
03:18:51,570 --> 03:18:54,850
All right, so is there a breakdown?

2180
03:18:55,550 --> 03:18:58,110
I don't, maybe you showed it to me, maybe I missed it.

2181
03:18:58,210 --> 03:19:04,630
Is there a breakdown of how this $500,000 is going to be spent?

2182
03:19:05,490 --> 03:19:06,410
Did I see that in there?

2183
03:19:06,610 --> 03:19:07,390
Did I miss that?

2184
03:19:07,610 --> 03:19:07,990
No.

2185
03:19:09,730 --> 03:19:14,970
I think there's a kind of multi-pronged approach.

2186
03:19:15,690 --> 03:19:19,330
We don't have a line item budget in this presentation,

2187
03:19:20,050 --> 03:19:21,790
but based on the teams recommendation,

2188
03:19:22,870 --> 03:19:26,510
obviously barriers will be of a cost.

2189
03:19:27,850 --> 03:19:30,670
We have an access of 200 trucks,

2190
03:19:32,090 --> 03:19:35,050
truckloads of how many trucks have to go to the dump

2191
03:19:35,050 --> 03:19:37,290
to put this where it belonged.

2192
03:19:37,290 --> 03:19:56,310
So, that's really the majority of the cost, I mean, the barriers or some cost getting the heavy machinery out there to move, you know, the massive piles around, but it's equipment, trucks, and manpower to get stuff done.

2193
03:19:56,310 --> 03:20:04,030
So one of the things I struggle with here is that, and I appreciate the more partners

2194
03:20:04,030 --> 03:20:11,210
in their diligence on this parcel and the things they're doing on the East Side Town,

2195
03:20:13,190 --> 03:20:20,090
but at the time when I get beat up every time I see Richard Chapman from economic development

2196
03:20:20,090 --> 03:20:26,370
corporation because he's on me about the call-cut buildings that it burnt over there

2197
03:20:26,370 --> 03:20:32,610
and just piles of rubble and we can't seem to get those cleaned up. We don't have

2198
03:20:32,610 --> 03:20:38,670
money in our budget for us to do it and so you know but now we're looking for half

2199
03:20:38,670 --> 03:20:44,490
a million dollars to clean up you know some other place and so that's where I get into

2200
03:20:45,110 --> 03:20:52,710
that policy question. If we do it once, we have to do it everywhere. Where do we draw

2201
03:20:52,710 --> 03:21:04,270
a lot? How do we make that case? So I'm struggling a little bit with this one. Any

2202
03:21:04,270 --> 03:21:11,550
you can talk about prevention, be size these barriers like you're going to start having

2203
03:21:11,550 --> 03:21:17,830
Please helicopter fly over it, you know, whenever they're around or whatever, I don't know.

2204
03:21:18,430 --> 03:21:20,210
To start trying to do some affordable.

2205
03:21:21,210 --> 03:21:26,790
So in our secure column there, we talk about bringing in some,

2206
03:21:27,170 --> 03:21:32,590
but before this develops bringing in some temp lighting, obviously,

2207
03:21:33,510 --> 03:21:38,490
we'll just talk about it was maybe some on-site surveillance, having some extra security out there.

2208
03:21:38,490 --> 03:21:41,810
We would not be using any of our dollars to do this.

2209
03:21:41,810 --> 03:21:48,730
This would be private property owner would need to do some of these things.

2210
03:21:48,950 --> 03:22:03,190
We would just want to make sure there's, it's impenetrable from a barrier standpoint and then they would need to do some investment of lighting on site private surveillance.

2211
03:22:03,190 --> 03:22:09,930
I think the one thing I would add to what Gary had shared was that we have discussed

2212
03:22:09,930 --> 03:22:18,090
the, you know, as the concept of changing a little bit how we do legal dumping enforcement

2213
03:22:18,090 --> 03:22:24,770
has come up, can we put some cameras up, can we do some additional illegal dumping enforcement

2214
03:22:25,430 --> 03:22:29,970
that has been contemplated for this site and just, you know, I-

2215
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:35,300
I know you're saying a tongue-in-cheat council member, but I have to clarify for the public record. We do not have a police helicopter.

2216
03:22:41,750 --> 03:23:00,790
So, yeah, so, you know, I see the need, but I'm hesitant to support this. Not that I don't want us to do this, but I'd like to have a more comprehensive understanding of what our policy is going to be about.

2217
03:23:00,790 --> 03:23:07,670
And I know it's not just the call cut, there's other ones around too, and we can dump

2218
03:23:07,670 --> 03:23:10,670
a couple million bucks in these things pretty quickly.

2219
03:23:11,710 --> 03:23:18,290
And so two things, one is things like K-Rail and those kind of things we ought to have.

2220
03:23:18,630 --> 03:23:25,410
If we need to have it, is there some other means by which we can buy those and have them

2221
03:23:25,410 --> 03:23:36,010
where we use them a different project, but I'd like to have, I think that maybe a more robust

2222
03:23:36,010 --> 03:23:41,270
conversation about what we're going to do by all these sites around, and there's several

2223
03:23:41,270 --> 03:23:42,190
of them.

2224
03:23:42,590 --> 03:23:47,570
You know, we can all think of two or three off top of our head, and I know what the city's

2225
03:23:47,570 --> 03:23:52,390
approach is going to be to those, because I don't want to dump a $500,000 lean on it.

2226
03:23:52,390 --> 03:24:00,090
guys property that we may, you know, we may see it, but you know, if you have a dollar

2227
03:24:00,090 --> 03:24:06,230
town investor that owns the land that, you know, he is father bought it before him. I don't know

2228
03:24:06,230 --> 03:24:15,630
the case exactly, but, you know, he might not care. So we might be, you know, 10, 20 years before that

2229
03:24:15,630 --> 03:24:21,330
problems that were developed. So, I don't know. I just, I just, I'm stumbling over this right now.

2230
03:24:21,770 --> 03:24:30,870
If I may, Councilmember, just as we developed our economic development strategic plan,

2231
03:24:31,330 --> 03:24:37,890
this Council asks us to also develop a rubric set of criteria for making decisions about economic development

2232
03:24:37,890 --> 03:24:45,530
incentives. There could be an opportunity to also we have a chronic nuisance program that the staff

2233
03:24:45,530 --> 03:24:51,970
actually spends a lot of time ranking properties at our chronic nuisance is under a certain

2234
03:24:51,970 --> 03:24:58,630
set of criteria. Another, you know, potential, you know, thought from the Council going forward

2235
03:24:58,630 --> 03:25:06,450
is to first have to develop a set of criteria that could be used as a framework for making decisions

2236
03:25:06,450 --> 03:25:10,290
about these very unique large chronic nuisance properties.

2237
03:25:10,590 --> 03:25:12,510
It would be, in my mind, it would actually be fairly similar

2238
03:25:12,510 --> 03:25:15,590
to the economic development incentive criteria.

2239
03:25:16,490 --> 03:25:18,490
And we have a few different tools in the tool belt.

2240
03:25:18,750 --> 03:25:20,130
We do have the abatement process.

2241
03:25:20,130 --> 03:25:23,290
We're working on a lean forgiveness policy

2242
03:25:25,250 --> 03:25:29,650
that would be available in instances where it's creating.

2243
03:25:30,210 --> 03:25:34,490
You've got a new ownership and you're going to generate

2244
03:25:34,490 --> 03:25:41,130
new economic activity, do you look at those leans and so just food for a thought for the

2245
03:25:41,130 --> 03:25:45,650
council that could be a future action for staff as to develop a certain criteria that council

2246
03:25:45,650 --> 03:25:53,130
could use in making these kind of decisions because there are rare number of times where we

2247
03:25:53,130 --> 03:26:04,470
would suggest, hey let's use additional dollars to address a significant issue but to some of

2248
03:26:04,470 --> 03:26:18,950
create opportunities and address problems that come to the good of the community ultimately and there are ways that we could measure that in a reasonable framework.

2249
03:26:20,250 --> 03:26:29,530
One other idea just to add to see Manager CLEG is also in kind of the economic development

2250
03:26:30,710 --> 03:26:35,630
mindset, having the property owner have some sort of commitment.

2251
03:26:36,470 --> 03:26:42,070
And what I'm hearing you say is maybe we want to see this developed in five to 10 years.

2252
03:26:42,210 --> 03:26:47,090
Maybe they have some sort of what if we invest 500,000 that there needs

2253
03:26:47,090 --> 03:26:54,750
be some sort of additional commitment out of them that we see this property develop, you know,

2254
03:26:54,990 --> 03:27:01,090
and some sort of criteria that aligns to what CMander was talking about with the economic

2255
03:27:01,090 --> 03:27:01,830
government framework.

2256
03:27:03,710 --> 03:27:06,110
Yeah, I don't know if I know the answers to those questions.

2257
03:27:06,310 --> 03:27:12,190
I think I'm imposing the question right more than answering them so for my money I'd like

2258
03:27:12,190 --> 03:27:16,670
see us have a further discussion about that.

2259
03:27:17,750 --> 03:27:25,210
In support of it, I will make one comment that the council took a very, very conservative

2260
03:27:25,210 --> 03:27:28,750
approach to preparing this year's budget.

2261
03:27:28,750 --> 03:27:45,030
And we purposely didn't act on some CIP, we decided to pull that and wait till mid-year to

2262
03:27:45,030 --> 03:27:48,970
see how our numbers are going to work out before we committed any of that.

2263
03:27:49,550 --> 03:27:52,730
So we had made some reservations,

2264
03:27:55,270 --> 03:27:58,690
some contingency money, set aside for these kind of project

2265
03:27:58,690 --> 03:28:03,790
I just like to know, I have a better understanding of what our policy is.

2266
03:28:03,950 --> 03:28:08,870
So we don't have to have these conversations when these things come up that we know what

2267
03:28:08,870 --> 03:28:12,550
we're going to do, we know what we're capable of doing, what we're not going to do.

2268
03:28:15,140 --> 03:28:20,560
So I guess I'm going to have to think about if I would make a motion or anything.

2269
03:28:20,780 --> 03:28:21,420
I don't know.

2270
03:28:21,900 --> 03:28:22,920
That's all the questions I have.

2271
03:28:22,960 --> 03:28:23,380
Thank you.

2272
03:28:23,600 --> 03:28:23,660
Thank you.

2273
03:28:23,660 --> 03:28:26,080
Thank you, Mayor.

2274
03:28:26,080 --> 03:28:33,680
I just want to share that I appreciate the honest, you know, thinking and scrutiny of this

2275
03:28:33,680 --> 03:28:34,100
allocation.

2276
03:28:34,580 --> 03:28:40,880
I, too, share some of those concerns because I agree, you know, particularly in Council

2277
03:28:40,880 --> 03:28:47,820
Member Gonzalez's district in mind, we have numerous of these properties and so I know that

2278
03:28:47,820 --> 03:28:53,220
I can't come back for a second time when there's another, you know, 40-acre lot with

2279
03:28:53,220 --> 03:28:59,940
similar problem, and so I think this is a unique opportunity, but I also want to make sure

2280
03:29:01,080 --> 03:29:07,460
that we're also not losing sight of the fact that this is a compounding problem, not just

2281
03:29:07,460 --> 03:29:15,100
for future economic development, but it's an immediate public safety issue, that the trash

2282
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:20,320
it's not on the screen anymore, but the debris stretches all the way back to our spreading

2283
03:29:20,320 --> 03:29:27,660
fields and connects and abuts immediately, you know, an entire section of our one residential

2284
03:29:27,660 --> 03:29:28,200
homes.

2285
03:29:28,840 --> 03:29:34,580
So there are many community members, newaries, along with her neighbors, who are very concerned

2286
03:29:35,380 --> 03:29:42,240
that when, not if, but when another fire breaks out, that fire may actually pose an immediate

2287
03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:44,560
threat in harm to their property.

2288
03:29:44,560 --> 03:29:51,480
And so, as Kaspar McGunzallas mentioned, we just don't have the funds in the budget today to

2289
03:29:51,480 --> 03:29:52,600
debate this project.

2290
03:29:53,420 --> 03:29:59,400
And so we need an additional allocation, like the one tonight in order to be able to debate.

2291
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:09,640
I'll share that just a couple of weeks ago from my count, it was the fourth fire in the span of

2292
03:30:09,640 --> 03:30:29,980
about three months that fourth fire was the largest that I've seen on the property, but it actually

2293
03:30:29,980 --> 03:30:37,360
The larger part of it in chunk was on the property of the property owner who we cannot get in contact with.

2294
03:30:37,700 --> 03:30:48,000
And so even if we were to ask the investor to bait their side, they're still more than 50% that we could not get under control.

2295
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:59,360
So just wanted to share that and share that I appreciate that the concern and actually would like to ask what the appropriate committee would be for us to make a referral

2296
03:30:59,360 --> 03:31:06,440
that committee take a look at, you know, what is that threshold for council to consider

2297
03:31:06,440 --> 03:31:11,760
a level of investment and attention, frankly, like this?

2298
03:31:12,580 --> 03:31:13,660
Councillor Morarius,

2299
03:31:16,520 --> 03:31:21,540
at first blush, but we could also always come back and revisit that,

2300
03:31:21,540 --> 03:31:26,060
but I actually think probably safe and healthy neighborhoods makes the most sense.

2301
03:31:26,060 --> 03:31:29,480
Okay, then with that, I'll make that referral tonight.

2302
03:31:30,420 --> 03:31:31,240
Thank you.

2303
03:31:32,900 --> 03:31:33,680
Councilmember Smith.

2304
03:31:37,100 --> 03:31:37,500
Thank you, Mayor.

2305
03:31:38,720 --> 03:31:42,960
The referral does not apply to this.

2306
03:31:42,960 --> 03:31:46,080
That's a separate referral that I'm hearing.

2307
03:31:49,600 --> 03:31:56,220
I'm just thinking that I am correct in the developer.

2308
03:31:56,820 --> 03:31:59,080
The one of the landowners is here.

2309
03:31:59,080 --> 03:32:07,600
is that correct? And that we've talked about how I guess payback or if I guess payback over time or

2310
03:32:07,600 --> 03:32:20,030
how we work through that and perhaps it would be a good idea to continue and have conversations

2311
03:32:21,010 --> 03:32:30,750
with a developer and come back in another meeting. So I'm not going to make that motion because

2312
03:32:30,750 --> 03:32:38,970
just in more than one, and so I'll let him think about that, but that would be something

2313
03:32:38,970 --> 03:32:45,150
that I think perhaps we could address some of the concerns that other council members

2314
03:32:45,150 --> 03:32:51,070
are having and find solutions.

2315
03:32:51,610 --> 03:32:58,450
If I may, council members Smith, in the spirit of trying to help address some of the questions

2316
03:32:58,450 --> 03:33:05,790
concerns as well. I think if if we were to take just a little bit more time we could potentially

2317
03:33:06,630 --> 03:33:13,170
refine numbers for what are the costs of the securing versus the abatement and what is

2318
03:33:13,170 --> 03:33:18,130
and the signage versus the abatement and also what would be the costs for the abatement of

2319
03:33:18,130 --> 03:33:23,290
the northern portion. So just for just for some additional clarity what you see on the page

2320
03:33:23,290 --> 03:33:29,190
on screen right now. There's a northern portion that is the separate property owner and the southern

2321
03:33:29,190 --> 03:33:38,410
portion that has, you know, is I maybe slightly off on this, either in the process of acquisition

2322
03:33:38,410 --> 03:33:45,450
or has been acquired by other property owners. They have it. Okay, has been acquired by other

2323
03:33:46,510 --> 03:33:53,490
We could potentially try and also separate out what the costs may be for a

2324
03:33:53,490 --> 03:33:58,310
abatement of the non-responsive versus the responsive that might help look at

2325
03:33:58,310 --> 03:33:59,930
those dollars more specifically.

2326
03:34:00,890 --> 03:34:04,010
And then I think it's also worth noting I'll just take a moment to clarify this

2327
03:34:04,010 --> 03:34:09,670
that the ownership of the larger section to the south, that's fairly recent

2328
03:34:09,670 --> 03:34:10,250
ownership.

2329
03:34:10,630 --> 03:34:15,050
They've come into that ownership in more recent years and cleaned it up.

2330
03:34:15,050 --> 03:34:19,010
And then the ownership, but if you go back together, one, Gary, thank you.

2331
03:34:19,610 --> 03:34:25,730
The southern portion of this property, very recently acquired, and so, you know, I think

2332
03:34:25,730 --> 03:34:31,950
it's worth noting that we're not talking about the same actors over multiple years.

2333
03:34:32,030 --> 03:34:39,750
This is a new owner who's trying to be responsible and in a spirit of the long-term solution,

2334
03:34:39,750 --> 03:34:45,430
And we're looking at ways to help secure the site and force the site, but then also address

2335
03:34:45,430 --> 03:34:48,630
the abatement costs to the cost of the property if that helps.

2336
03:34:48,930 --> 03:34:57,290
But there may be ways for us to, again, in summary, refine the numbers that would help give

2337
03:34:57,290 --> 03:35:02,770
clarity and potentially options for how to spend those dollars and maybe work on some

2338
03:35:02,770 --> 03:35:06,230
of the other questions that have been raised at the same time.

2339
03:35:06,470 --> 03:35:07,350
Thank you.

2340
03:35:09,830 --> 03:35:14,230
Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to make a referral that we pursue the

2341
03:35:14,230 --> 03:35:18,770
receivership process for those parcels under the ownership of the

2342
03:35:18,770 --> 03:35:26,810
unresponsive owner, because even if we do see development on these sites,

2343
03:35:27,810 --> 03:35:34,410
those existing parcels remain a nuisance and a problem for the community

2344
03:35:34,410 --> 03:35:42,230
moving forward. So if it, if it makes sense, I would like us to at least consider or explore

2345
03:35:42,230 --> 03:35:47,410
that option for that property. Thank you, Council member. We can sell this, Council member.

2346
03:35:47,530 --> 03:35:55,130
Are yes. Thank you, Mayor. Given the feedback from some of my colleagues and also given that we

2347
03:35:55,130 --> 03:36:03,810
are approaching 9pm, I would like to withdraw my motion. I mean, introduce a new motion to bring this

2348
03:36:03,810 --> 03:36:13,510
item back at the next council meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Any other request to speak? Seeing none. You have a motion. Please catch your votes.

2349
03:36:26,280 --> 03:36:30,900
The motion is approved with Council Member Bashir Tashvori no and vice mayor core absent.

2350
03:36:31,920 --> 03:36:37,680
Thank you and now. Next item please. Council and mayor statements.

2351
03:36:42,140 --> 03:36:45,980
Here's the screen so I can see with our any council member Bashir Tash.

2352
03:36:47,420 --> 03:36:52,940
Can we get a presentation on municipal code and the standards that we are supposed to?

2353
03:36:53,100 --> 03:36:56,140
I heard Councilman Gonzalez talking about some of the things that we can do.

2354
03:36:56,980 --> 03:37:02,220
I'd like a presentation and then some thoughts on how we can put more teeth in it to

2355
03:37:02,500 --> 03:37:05,860
hold people accountable and taking properties that are just kind of destroying.

2356
03:37:06,600 --> 03:37:07,800
And not just commercial residential.

2357
03:37:08,160 --> 03:37:10,840
I mean we need to just something.

2358
03:37:11,300 --> 03:37:15,440
I want to know what our policy is and some ideas on how we can actually hold people accountable

2359
03:37:15,440 --> 03:37:22,020
So that we're not wasting taxpayer money for clarity counts of merit, nuisance product chronic nuisance properties.

2360
03:37:23,560 --> 03:37:25,400
I would even chronic nuisance properties.

2361
03:37:25,680 --> 03:37:27,900
I don't know what our standards are for even front yards.

2362
03:37:28,160 --> 03:37:29,960
If there's grass levels and cars park.

2363
03:37:30,000 --> 03:37:57,280
I'm sure there's just, I get, we need something that's got teeth, real teeth. That's that, that's that, for first or for all. Second, can we begin to look at the adoption of the best practices, best practices toolkit for homelessness and addiction for treatment. First policy that just came out was published. I think I received the copy of it, Carlos, the director of the mission, it's just, it's fantastic.

2364
03:37:57,280 --> 03:38:07,220
It's what all sides used to work on to actually get in front of this issue that we've gone away from the last two decades that is really created this this almost this problem.

2365
03:38:07,940 --> 03:38:11,400
And so I think that that would be incredible to get done.

2366
03:38:11,880 --> 03:38:18,380
We need to figure out how we can start rolling out the adoption of that instead of continuing to waste millions of dollars on what's not working.

2367
03:38:19,620 --> 03:38:20,500
That's it.

2368
03:38:22,290 --> 03:38:23,870
Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez.

2369
03:38:23,870 --> 03:38:33,330
I think, you know, after the recent events over the weekend and the tragedy, there has

2370
03:38:33,330 --> 03:38:38,630
been a lot of questions about youth violence and gain related shootings and homicides.

2371
03:38:38,870 --> 03:38:45,730
And I think it would be worthwhile for this council to within a council meeting to have

2372
03:38:45,730 --> 03:38:51,790
a workshop related to some of our violence intervention work, so that the community can have

2373
03:38:51,790 --> 03:38:56,850
a fuller understanding of some of the work that we're already engaged in because there's a lot

2374
03:38:56,850 --> 03:39:03,390
of ideas out there, a lot of great conversations, but I think it would be helpful for us to

2375
03:39:03,390 --> 03:39:08,350
at least establish a baseline of what's already taking place within the city of Bakersfield

2376
03:39:08,350 --> 03:39:10,510
along with many other community partners.

2377
03:39:13,670 --> 03:39:15,270
Thank you, Council Member Gonzalez. Council Member

2378
03:39:15,930 --> 03:39:44,990
Thank you, Mayor. I'll just share that that's a wonderful idea given all of the interest in this topic, but also just the communities outpouring of support and and concern rather about safety in our community. I also just would love to add on some of the investments this council has made into the partnerships between BPD and our school resource officers.

2379
03:39:45,270 --> 03:39:49,290
and placing those at particular sites of interest.

2380
03:39:50,490 --> 03:40:04,230
There's so many different things that we have done to make our community safer, but also in partnership with some of our key partners, like our school districts, and so we'd love to make sure that we're taking full stock of all of that.

2381
03:40:04,230 --> 03:40:04,950
All of that worked.

2382
03:40:05,590 --> 03:40:07,430
Mr. Clay, did you have anything?

2383
03:40:07,690 --> 03:40:08,550
Thank you, Mayor.

2384
03:40:08,550 --> 03:40:14,950
I just would appreciate the opportunity to reflect very briefly a couple of overarching thoughts

2385
03:40:14,950 --> 03:40:23,010
on this topic because it is a large conversation that's going on in the community right now.

2386
03:40:23,890 --> 03:40:33,490
I would first say that any act of violence, any tragedy, loss of life is so unfortunate.

2387
03:40:33,490 --> 03:40:38,790
And we are very saddened by the incident that occurred last week.

2388
03:40:39,290 --> 03:40:43,890
I think it's also important to reflect that Bakersfield,

2389
03:40:44,570 --> 03:40:48,630
from a gun violence perspective, has not been as safe as it has been

2390
03:40:48,630 --> 03:40:51,070
the last two years in more than a decade.

2391
03:40:52,170 --> 03:40:55,530
The efforts that have been underway have made incredible progress

2392
03:40:55,530 --> 03:41:01,290
every incident matters and we want to make sure that we stop every incident we can

2393
03:41:01,290 --> 03:41:09,050
And that we respond to every incident, but because of the efforts of the Bakersville Police Department,

2394
03:41:09,390 --> 03:41:13,190
our Office of Violence and Prevention and Prevention, our community-based organizations,

2395
03:41:14,030 --> 03:41:19,770
we saw more than a 70% reduction in homicides and shootings from 2021 through 2024.

2396
03:41:20,470 --> 03:41:24,270
We saw a very slight plateauing in uptake of last year.

2397
03:41:24,270 --> 03:41:31,270
If you reflect in 2021, we had 60 homicides, 17 of those were gang violence related.

2398
03:41:33,350 --> 03:41:39,890
And in 2025, we had 33 homicides, 3 of those were gang violence related.

2399
03:41:40,490 --> 03:41:47,330
In 2026, we had only 10 homicides, 1, the one last week was gang violence related.

2400
03:41:47,670 --> 03:41:51,090
It is remarkable the reduction in gang violence.

2401
03:41:51,090 --> 03:41:57,330
I would argue that our community would make gun violence standpoint as become very safe.

2402
03:41:58,230 --> 03:42:05,710
And again, every incident that concerns our community that is different than that is important

2403
03:42:05,710 --> 03:42:06,690
to us.

2404
03:42:07,410 --> 03:42:11,910
But the gains have been significant and we're going to continue to make those gains and work

2405
03:42:11,910 --> 03:42:14,530
hard on this topic, but there's lots of work that's been happening.

2406
03:42:14,530 --> 03:42:25,790
and I will express just some concern that as we were rallying partners in 2021 to do this work

2407
03:42:25,790 --> 03:42:33,810
for many of the young people in our disadvantaged neighborhoods who are experiencing these incidents

2408
03:42:33,810 --> 03:42:41,030
at a too high of a rate, we didn't have the same community impetus at the time. We will welcome

2409
03:42:41,030 --> 03:42:46,770
any energy that is created from these type of incidents, but we've rolled up our sleeves and been

2410
03:42:46,770 --> 03:42:51,870
doing this work for a long time, and we've seen really big results, and we'll take the opportunity

2411
03:42:51,870 --> 03:42:58,530
to make that even bigger. I would note our overall crime also significantly down, but we're very

2412
03:42:58,530 --> 03:43:03,330
frustrated about the chronic low-level quality of life crimes that can be taken into play or community.

2413
03:43:04,170 --> 03:43:09,890
That is issue number one for your counsel. You've made that issue number one for staff to address,

2414
03:43:09,890 --> 03:43:16,370
But our gun violence issues have been dramatically different and it's fortunate that these are isolated instances today

2415
03:43:17,910 --> 03:43:19,450
Thank you, Mr. Cleg

2416
03:43:20,050 --> 03:43:21,530
Council member Coleman

2417
03:43:22,490 --> 03:43:23,930
Thank you, Mayor

2418
03:43:23,930 --> 03:43:32,870
I wanted to reach out to Angela Frazier has been sitting here. Dr. Angela Frazier has been sitting here all night

2419
03:43:33,770 --> 03:43:34,450
and

2420
03:43:34,450 --> 03:43:36,930
I appreciate that

2421
03:43:38,810 --> 03:43:47,730
Unfortunately, Johnny of Logge made some remarks as the exited, which were, you know, for those

2422
03:43:47,730 --> 03:43:53,210
people that don't know Mr. Logge, that can be offensive of some of his comments.

2423
03:43:54,230 --> 03:44:01,590
So I apologize that we didn't react. I know you wanted to be able to respond to him and

2424
03:44:01,590 --> 03:44:06,650
we didn't give him an opportunity to do that. And so I apologize for not understanding what

2425
03:44:06,650 --> 03:44:11,090
to tell me at that time. So thank you for sitting through this whole thing. I hope you learned

2426
03:44:11,090 --> 03:44:17,050
something and that's all I have to say about that. So thank you.

2427
03:44:18,430 --> 03:44:21,970
I don't see any other requests, so we stand adjourned at 8.51.