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Good evening. Welcome to today, Bayesian Lewis. April 16th, meeting, starting the meeting with the prayer, and then followed by the pledge.
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Mr. McKinley-Gas, first guest.
Hey everybody, council.
First of all, thanks for having us.
I'm going to take it very much each time.
I know you're going to busy agenda.
As you said, I'm making the gas.
I'm the CCA Executive Director of the State, and we have been lucky enough to be supportive
that's a pretty strong sponsor to offer a free kids fishing radio from Memorial Day to Labor Day.
I think it's the first time that has ever happened and we are super stoked about it.
We don't need anything from the city.
I gave y'all a fire.
What I would like is if your recreation department can tag it.
The whole point of the special year is to get kids and families out to fish.
bit of all third computers and out of the house of the sun. It's going to start this Saturday
of Memorial Day. It's going to end the Monday of Labor Day. It's salt water south of I-10 in
Mississippi Warms. We're going to give about $40,000 in prizes to the winning kids and that's
a place of prize. If you're first second third for each category and each individual, we've got
a for each child angler that catches a one of each species we're going to put in
for special raffle and they will get a big prize and we also have for each child that gets
a video of them catching and release. Since it's a video we're going to give a very big
prize at the end for that so we'll draw it. It's all about like I said family's getting
things back, put kids with fish and folks. These events coincide with our cash and
for conservation and our normal fish and boat giveaway, sports and sclove. We helped them out.
We did a couple of incidents and basically a little slash deer. The idea there is to give each
get a fish and boat to make sure they have the tools to fish. Again, Mississippi waters,
South about 10, ages 3, the 15, no license needed, no reason, and they can catch fish anywhere.
We've talked to the Wayne at the harbor, Mr. Bob, at the Marina here.
Basically those will be our two ways.
We're going to provide the scales, and we're going to provide the publicity for them.
We're going to put a little page on our website so that people will know when they're open their hours to operate.
The biggest question we've had is, what if a big catch is a fish and throw it on ice, put it in the next step.
You know, the big idea is to make this easy.
You look at the back, set of rules are pretty simple.
Easy to understand if we have a tie, first get it, the caught, and then the first get it registered.
Then if you go a little bit step further, if you have a child that wins more than one event,
we're going to call in a week before the event, the banquet, and we're going to tell them, hey,
you can only win one, which one do you want to be the king of? So trying to make sure we give
103 different first but second, third place products. Like I said, 140,000 in prizes,
probably about another 10 grand indoor prizes. We've had some local sponsors that have been well,
we're going to blast all that out. The other thing is the banquet is going to be held September 21,
We're hoping to use the rights for beating golf board.
It's the only place we think is big enough
to hold the amount of children that we're hoping to serve.
We also have the DMR 15 team that I believe
is going to put four percent of that day.
So it's going to really go to a bit.
If it's digital, it's having the churches,
do you want to get this flyer out?
If there's a group of youth groups,
you need many of your talk clues that we make sure,
like I said, the idea is to get as many
efficient polls in hand as we possibly can.
Any
questions?
I'm not sure.
Sounds good.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
You all have this as like a JPEG or we did the app that we can attach and put on our website.
Well, I'll consider it.
It is.
And believe it or not, we actually have somebody that donate money for publicity to be able
to blast it out.
So again, you know, we're hoping between five and eight hundred children.
It's awesome.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you.
any agenda amendments needed.
Anything need to be added?
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, the only thing I sent out earlier in the council
and was able to add it was on to the Mayor's report.
Who's dealing with the AC?
Right.
Okay.
All right.
But it's already on the agenda.
Yes.
Thank you.
All right.
Next thing.
Plan is on application.
Motion.
of lands on that recommendation proved application for five variants of five puts at a front yard
submitted by Carlton and Andrea Maine located 11160 Manhattan Street parcel 135M-0-39-125.00
and 135M-0-39-124.00 is approved five zeros and one of the top favorite of this application
I'm more than fatty, fought 13, done by a court, we've got a 100 foot lot, 100 foot, a 100
foot, and we've got 12 foot setback on the tie-backs on a bulkhead, and the customers build
them a beautiful home, but they maybe want to put a pool in the future, but we're trying to
get them 15 feet from the back of the house to the tie-backs on the bulkhead, so that was
We're trying to, you know, slide five feet just to give us a wiggle room later on to put a pool.
Okay, good.
Anybody in opposition to Southification was approved five zero by plan and zoning.
Make motion.
Motion followed.
PNG's recommendation on approved.
Motion, Mr. Salvo.
Sorry.
Second, Mr. Hoffman.
It's part of the discussion on all the favor vote to motion.
Yeah, a couple discussion points.
Mr. Benfati, is there no way to do this, so you're looking at future use, right?
So, full on the front, that's why you're asking for the five-foot.
Okay, so there's no way to achieve this without looking at that variance on the five-foot.
Because it looks like I know based on the administration recommendation, I think they were looking at it.
There's no hardship presented in that a lot is oversized, so is there an actual need for it?
And then there's your way to achieve it without getting the five-foot bearing.
Not at this point, the plans are already drawn, the customer is set on it, that footprint
at the house.
It's only a hundred foot deep light, which is really, you know, by the time you take out
45 feet, it didn't leave as a whole point to ruin the draw to plan.
So it's already kind of in motion, and it just came up in the last minute, and we're just trying
to leave isn't enough for them.
I mean, it could be settled and want, but if it's not, if you need a variance, if there's
any changes, and if there's no hardship, I mean, I'd agree with the administration on this
recommendation unless that's changed. Mayors that changed recommendation on this. I think that's what they talk about. I don't know. I don't know if they knew about the tiebacks coming coming out, you know, to where that was it, you know,
initially it was said, you know, just a pool to go in and we thought the same thing they still had room or to the side or something.
Go with the tiebacks coming back that far. I don't know how far now.
15 feet, I think we had 12 feet, but it's kind of eaten up a little bit more to your.
It's causing a little bit of a problem.
Okay. Okay. Any more discussion?
Go to motion.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
Motion passes 31.
Thank you.
Next, I have case of motion to deny the application of variants of two foot to the side yard
minutes by Michael Martin, located 339 State Street,
parcel 1, 490, E-10, dash 29, dash 268, that's 0, there's 0.
Anybody who speak on his application?
You might speak against the application.
This man, please come forward and identify yourself at a record.
I'm joined, no, well, I am his next to a neighbor.
And my yard is not a big yard and I have a small dog and we spend a lot of time back there.
My house is elevated three steps. His house is on a slab. And my thing is, I just don't want to face.
Can you imagine what three feet is going to look like with the rods right there? To me it's just,
I just don't want to do it, I just don't want to do it, if, you know, that's just me.
Okay, thank you.
I'm her daughter.
I'm going to claim a little better of what you know.
Then by yourself.
Oh, Chris, be cool on.
What she's trying to say is like, when you are standing in her yard, pulling it closer, it's going
to make it look taller, and when you're standing on, like when she walks outside, you can literally
T over the past the yard at the house, so that's really what her concern is that they're close to get taller than it be.
Okay, thank you. Any more discussion?
Yeah, plan is owning, I actually had owner on the telephone.
They did this really did not follow along with his plan the way he was talking about, why they had to move the shed over.
So I was approaching on his back patio and I think then in the day plan his own and did not feel that there was an encroachment that needed a variance.
Therefore, they did make a motion to deny.
I think that's what the city's recommendation was initially as well.
Okay.
All right.
Good evening.
I'll make a motion to follow planning his own information.
Recommendation and deny the application for variance.
Motion is to follow up on the second.
Okay.
Mr. Lewis, discussion.
I'll make a motion.
motion. All right. All right. Motion passes.
Or zero at the deny. All right.
Motion follows a plan is on recommendation.
Proof application for a amendment to the zoning
map submitted by JPC development.
Located for seven, how we're 90.
For also one, three, seven, eight, zero,
dash, four, five, dash, one, four, zero.
That zero, zero.
It was approved.
Five, zero.
You can do anything.
Anybody talk about anything.
Let's move to condition.
Thank you.
I could寶 2017-25 Old Spanish Trail.
I Plus 47 highway 90.
I don't have anything to add, other than I'm sticking out a map.
Yeah, so the JSON property is highway commercial.
That's the big property behind.
Down左, all the way down.
I'm going to the way back to the most luck to demand support in the complex is
where that commercial goes.
And so this runs, basically parallel, same amount, back that way.
Everyone knows, there's no bite to plans,
oh no, it's a little confused about what it was,
but yeah, what it looked like, sort of maps.
So that's why it's up.
It is, you know, it does, there's no really change in an existing area
that would be a detriment or zoning.
I mean, the only thing I look at when you're going from residential to commercial,
it does create, there's gerace, that's a lot on a lot on,
I guess that'd be the only concern, but I mean,
there's this area is commercial right yeah that's my way to turn it's going to
measure commercial that you can build while in a lot on right yeah pulled up the
maps and kind of try to lay them together and it's a bit of minimal impact
for this change anybody speaks in opposition to this
motion file of PNG's
recommendation in the proof motion to silvo second of the hallmark in more discussion
That's the motion.
All right.
Motion pass.
All right.
First
thing we had, you know, I think it was the last meeting.
We had $250,000 behind that for the shield burrow sub division.
Part of that word, you know, you still had to come back in and pave and everything in there.
Since then they've come back in and have paved everything in there
And they would like to see the fine reduced and we were talking with them and everything
I think came out like a 50,000 dollar fine with the cover and he made your calls in there
But it would also extend I want it in two years three years. We'll get an extra year warranty or anything in there as well
Again, it's something we're trying to put together something for future projects
That would define what the bond needs,
be we have done research.
All up and down the coast, some's 5%, some's 10%, some's so much a lot, different than I think the obvious is 800 a lot, you know, things like that.
So it's less and what we're looking at with this fine and I think they're looking to move forward with the project and everything, you know, going on.
But again, I think you know everybody feel like you know 50,000 would cover any major
Miss happy know whether pipe blows out whatever and marches out the road and everything. I think you know
The main concern I think it last me we discussed was
They're guaranteed on the asphalt the top layer and overwhelming on that. So we have that that it's been slow to find
complete
Great.
Yes.
I came, did two coats on out, whatever, and everything's finished in as far as the roads
got.
Yes.
Did you have any recommendations on this?
What was the coat following your recommendation last?
Yeah.
Like Kyle said, the paving was kind of our main concern to know that that's been addressed.
I think extending it another year gives us some more protection.
So, I would recommend going with the $50,000 bond for the three year period.
All right.
Yeah.
So my number's got, right, it's talked about economics in this.
1% bond, 3 bonds, 1%, 1%, right.
So, depends on when you're buying a capacity,
2,000, 1% is 2,500 dollars, if I go $800,
a lot, it's $33,000 for the same bond.
The developer has a economic, if it only makes 10% for a house, 2,500 dollars, it's making
dollars profit of the developer makes. We have a major blowout in sewer water.
Cities on the hook to fix that, right? So in Facebook, the developer gets his million dollars.
Taxpayers get to fix it. Right. They're responsible still for up to three years.
Yeah. Yeah. We're responsible. We're responsible.
Yeah. We're responsible. We're responsible. We're responsible.
for three years, they're bonded up to $250,000.
I wish the whole of Main Street calls for that, oh, Mia.
Yeah, it's seen it.
And I'm just quite surprised.
Is this the right thing to do for a little bit of money?
This is, there's your warranty and then your bond.
The bond basically just covers it.
They're not going to show back up.
So, I mean, you have to think about this in terms of if this was a development that the city did.
if it was our own infrastructure project.
You don't have, and so the city is monitored,
the city has been involved in, I guess, construction
and approvals all the way through.
So it's the same thing that it goes as our own project.
I mean, if the contractor finishes it,
and we take substantial completion, and we walk away.
I mean, we don't have any state, we don't, yeah, it's ours.
We only have, essentially, the same thing,
a warranty to make sure that they do what they can do.
And also, I know the numbers, but I'm not, I think you might be thinking more about performance bond numbers
and my understanding is the cost of these performance bonds like this that were maintenance bonds are higher than, yes, they're not.
Because we're looking for performance bonds for ourselves to always perform as well as performance bonds.
Yeah, this is a maintenance bonds with a little difference in what we see every day in our...
Yeah, because we have 300 dollars for, right?
We deal with bid bonds in performance bonds.
This is a maintenance.
And this is right about a 10% of the, you know, the host of the whole entire product.
That's what you know what you're, what they're, until the economic out there.
The project was,
to me, I found a project like,
a $5,000 gift thousand, somewhere in the United States.
So, you know, we're right.
Okay.
That's what I was saying to that.
I'll be like, you know, again, one of the good things.
I've got an X, a warranty output out of it.
Do we have a timeline of when, I mean,
to win this,
over the way it will be done and then it win the development of the data.
overlay is done. Okay, so we're looking at the development phase two, I mean there's still a lot to be done on that development, so we know there's a lot of wear and tear.
I want to make sure the timeline that we're within still that three years timeframe because you're going to have some huge truck coming in a lot of where I count that road to where that covers.
Yeah, yeah, it starts from whenever it's a nice time to over in that okay
So once we approve it it starts today. Yes, and then it'll be for three years from there on you know the warranty and I'll own a road and everything in that
Amagia for the
development and sell out and build out with the term and the next thing is
Well, that's not concern thing.
Yes, it took two to two half years to deal with.
And we're not getting all that worked out.
We got no recourse, and you've got all this trucks coming in and it's in, yeah.
Well that's either way if I'm not mistaken.
Heather might have cleared this up, but if we hold off, if we're to held off on the paving,
then it still was a two year warranty from the time we take that.
So I was only good for two years, well that has three years.
So hopefully if we're going to have any trouble in there and all shit occur, what does
it like you saying, you know, with the heavy equipment coming in, drops in this and that now.
All right.
I'm good.
The work of City Engineer and Administration field that does significant
thoughts enough of that word was.
It was a bit of a fish.
It's a bit of a bit of a fish.
That's what it was.
I'm okay with that.
Any more discussion around that?
Motion?
I'm going to make a motion to approve.
There's a salvo.
Second.
Second the fall.
I mean, four scuss.
Other scuss not like is administration.
You said you work in a window, a bond.
Feast.
We out.
Whatever.
So we'll need you to practice.
Yeah.
It's not a little
bit.
My information regulations just cite maintenance bond.
It doesn't say how you calculate it.
So we're trying to look it up and down the coast.
What are this kind of standard.
Yeah.
I'm the coast.
That's what we're doing.
So it's an easy formula before a developer goes and knows it's just how you calculate.
Okay.
This is what I expect.
I don't know their cost.
I don't know their cost, ma'am.
Good deal.
All right.
Look at motion.
All right.
Motion passes.
We'll zero.
Next item was the air condition.
Thank you.
Yeah.
What is it?
You know, we've been having trouble.
Providence day one with air condition at the fire station one.
It's got the underground loop, it's my understanding, even one of the contractors that put
into it was working at the time, talked about how it was compromised, underground piping
was compromised at the time of installation.
So what we're looking at is putting a chiller in, well, not a chiller, a chiller, a chullin
tower in, above ground, you know, over on the back side, on the ground, not on the building,
but on the ground, being all stainless-hewned, everything, tying it just in a lot of
pipes, and everything we got, and keep the same inner system and all throughout.
And, you know, it did come back less than what was expected at low bed, I think it was 293,000,
like it was and and all and again the lead time on this is what so far out we're talking about
still even if we get it approved and get everything out we're still talking about an August time line
frame somewhere as in there and you know last year was pretty bad I think just about all the
conditions in the bunk rooms and all upstairs, none of them at work.
It was pretty miserable in there for them guys.
And so this year, we're also looking at getting some
prices in the bringing a portable unit that will set up
and tie in to existing lines to use that system and all.
And still waiting on prices for that.
One of the things, again, is being able to move as quickly as we can
to try to get everything order because of the lead time for the unit itself.
So, I know it was late and everything getting, they've also, you know, they came back
with, you know, an alternative of some new units, three-minute units, something they used
out and Texas at the school that just started using them that would hook up to our system instead
of one big compressor and everything, you know, but this is pretty much a bullet proof, not
a lot on a pump, a motor and that's it, it's not like all the electronics and everything
get back where we as at, you know, these other three units and also looked at taking, you
know, doing a way with the system we haven't gone with, you know, central units throughout
the place but to pull everything out to get into the duct works and all that we're probably
looking at more money for that than what we're all, you know, for this, you know, fixed
right here.
I don't know if this came up last time we discussed this.
There's no one.
I'm finding that means going to pretend to be an HVAC expert.
But there's no way to just convert this simplicity.
I mean, because I don't think there's any other building
pulling the city that has this kind of system.
So there's no way to just get some.
I tonnished units and convert this.
And I mean, it would be.
We talked about that.
But go in and take all of this out.
And then come back in and rewire everything.
Drain, because each one of these rooms has its own thermostat and its own little mini unit
up in the ceiling.
Which is like P-Tax, I mean, but in a elaborate version, that cost very highly to fix some
stuff.
But again,
this has worked in recommended and even when people came in looking at the system
And they're talking with their recommendation was to fix what you have, but this is the
way to go with the cool and power and get rid of the underground, that's more cost efficient
and everything getting it done and going in and replacing everything with the other way.
Now, this will get us whole, if it won't be, if we need 10 other problems, individual room
unit for place, once we get this system in for another 50,000 or nothing, we hope not,
We just, you know, we spent party and got everything working, yeah, and it was hoping that might solve the problem.
But there's no guarantee on that anywhere.
That's my fear. If we put 300,000 out of another hundred to six, ten room, maybe we should, like,
house just, we're still simple. Yeah, we love the house. We love the house. We love the house.
We love the house. But not, but not, we didn't find one, one of the engineers, with any of the other ones that put
it's in for this to even want to touch that because of the work and everything that has to be done.
So this is from what's just going to give me the shield, the water it needs to be.
The cool thing to know everything else is still independent of this outside of this.
Three hundred thousand.
What do you thought?
Well one thing I think if you look at our utility bills over here, we're spending a lot of money.
That's drain in to try to just use the kit to kill down a little bit, you know, that's gonna go away back to more of a normal bill and cycle and everything and as well, you know.
Where are we getting the phone on?
Well, we agreed we took it out the rest of the bond on the bond, some of the bond, money on the bond, money on the bond.
I know, do they advertise that that's where you are?
Yeah, that's where you are.
I'll get about a 15-ton temperate, you know, about $2,100 a month from a Greco
America, you need to contact on that.
I'll have to run them every summer, so.
Yeah. Well, I think that's what they're looking at.
How much you said? $2,100 for 15-ton.
Yeah.
I think you should have thought about temperate.
Yeah.
We're talking.
Yeah, I think they're looking at it.
Engineers are going to bring us recommendations for that.
They can tie in.
I think you're talking about a couple of dollars on wheels.
We're going to bring that back whenever we get all that information.
Really not that bad for me.
Three months.
But the last year was anywhere in the mid 90s on up and out.
Come late.
It was.
Can't expect it.
I know that.
That's right.
All right.
Any discussion?
Any more discussion on that?
It's a little bit of recommend about engineering companies.
the NP and corporate 2193.100 dollars.
I've added a new pool of dollar for fire station number one.
I'll make a motion.
Motion to approve.
I can solve a second.
Second.
Second is the Hoffman.
Any further discussion?
All the favor.
Aye.
Motion passes.
40.
Thank you.
And thank you too.
Yes.
We'll get that done.
All the best in this.
Motion approved.
of a post-parallel plan and design
to write a new zone in orders for city base
and a lowest amount of $100,500.
It's a good detail scope of work on it,
and it also ties in with the new comprehensive plan.
Correct.
So you number six on all those.
So number six is kind of tie back into the zoning.
Ordnance redo, rewrite, read through the proposals.
A lot of gibberish, quite honestly.
Is there a reason why they, I'd love to hear from a rhyme.
they come and speak to, what they found in the conference of playing that wouldn't assess
the table.
We all know there's some work to do, but I mean, I love the hear from them, I mean,
is there reason why they didn't want to...
I mean, in or coming...
No, I asked, purposely, now that we've got the conference of playing in draft form, it's being
prepared for P&Z.
So instead of delaying another basically three months while this process finishes up, we've had
multiple public hearings, we've been feedback, positive comments, on the various ideas
that concept would come through that comprehensive plan.
So this, to me, is what I've asked, I said,
can we, you know, are we in a position
that we can start working?
Because it's a law of a year-long process.
And we know our comprehensive plan that was done.
I'm sorry, the zoning that was done, I think 2010,
has some flaws that's got to come to the people at times.
So to me, let's start and let's get working.
This firm is obviously going to round for a year with us,
has met with y'all met with P&Z, met with our residents at advisory board, they know us,
and now it starts to say, and how do we incorporate all that into our comforts playing
into our zoning.
Making changes. Again, this is a year-long process, so this isn't going to be more coming back.
Yeah, it's not like them going in just wrong what they want. They're going to be a lot of feedback from council, you know, the input from the citizens and everything.
Well, you know.
What doesn't necessarily mean that zones will change.
So zoning, ordinance, the document itself, should be a living breathing document.
It's my knowledge. We don't even have a word version of the thing so part of this too is taking what's happened over the last 10 years and making sure all of that isn't cooperated
You're definitions in your zoning ordinances a lot of times do not match up
There's some words that are defined that's never going to use in the document
So so call this this goes way past what
Your current zones may look like I mean the geographical
are three may not change, but it's your whole ordinance overhaul as a whole that they would be looking at.
Yeah, that's the biggest chunk of money and that's why it's 101,000.
That's why I like to get specifics like that to where they're coming and say,
we've identified this. This is what I recommend.
Yes, they've given us a draft.
I mean, one of the things is one of the stakeholders.
I mean, two of the stakeholders is real state professionals and developers,
not real state developers.
Yeah, real state developers, what do they want to do?
develop and make it easier for them. So, we know that there's been from the citizens,
push, preserving quality of life first, making it easier for developers to come in.
So, that's where it would have been nice to understand and hear what are some tangible
and specifics. I mean, we've got this, again, we've got the draft that is really going to
detail. We'll get them to go to the next meeting. We're not hurt.
Again, I'm the one who made the request a week off.
We budgeted 100,000 FFI-24.
Yeah, let's begin planning for that.
So we did this is a budget amount.
Correct.
We did budget.
Let's get them back in and let's just kind of walk through with their tail plan.
And all of them, and that's fine.
But I'm going to just tell you before they make a job down here, they're not necessarily
going to have a plan yet, because what's included in that is going through every line of
your current ordinance and making recommendations for changes and doing a complete overall.
So they know that feedback that's come from your comprehensive plan, but just remember that these are two separate documents.
So all of that time, all of that effort, all of those recommendations,
I don't really see them making those until they're engaged to do it because that's a huge part of what you're hiring them to do.
Well, I want to be good to hear. Again, we've spent a good bit of money for the conference of plan.
It's another, it's a lot of money that we're about to spend on the journey.
So it would be good to hear from them.
And we had the initial meeting with them.
They've done a lot via Zoom.
I don't know how much, you know, the first, the first couple of meetings was in person,
but a lot's been Zoom.
So I mean, I think getting back and really getting back to the council,
I don't know, from the last time when we had somebody that was actually here speaking.
And I mean, I would just like to hear overall concepts,
what they've done in other areas, to piggyback, they didn't nominate.
I mean, there's a lot through the zoning.
The final draft of their zoning right now, and I'm actually reading it just because out of my own theory
I also didn't see what the year was going to kind of look like and what they have found in other minutes how complete
180 degree
change
Is this the language and it's a lot simpler to read and digest
So and I was the man that I love me others I'm just trying to kind of we have any benchmarks marks on other calls from other
firms, I mean, if these people doing dime hits, so I'm sure the cost is pretty much the same,
they're short, short, short, and dime hits pretty much the same.
I think that was a little bit less, but the 90% of dime hits didn't have to be read.
If you look at dime hits, it was a plan, community.
So, all the residential is still R1, R2, R3, basically.
Whereas here, you've got, it's a complete different animal.
So, not have been 25% less. I'm going up in my head from one, I asked for a cook for years,
I've got to have an idea and I've got to understand that it's not going to be the same as Diamond Hades.
It's going to be more extensive and like to hear some of that.
Come on.
Let's go over the broad overview of it.
But I mean, they will be here.
Again, public hearing for the comprehensive plan that was getting advertised for me.
You know, but I'll ask them if they're making a trip down for anything else.
That would die in with that as well.
So I'm living the trip and just tie in to that same guy in the deal.
All right.
Just gotta get on the count.
Put that in.
Take it off.
Rebus that again.
I also business with the department.
All right.
Mr. Sabba.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Yeah.
May I work?
So I know Jason and then Ronnie have also worked on a study.
I think in more force, I think Doug and your award is well.
In terms of the culverts.
We had a obviously a big down for last week. So where are we staying and I think there was some you know we they went out about a year or so go dug out with a good
Especially you know in seven street blackstone area, a guystone
It's a little bit higher than seven street so there's some issues there
But they there's identified there's some clats called versus so we a little bit closer where do we stay and we're trying to identify and and look at replacing they're looking at some there
Highland esponet area
Some out what six and I'll trying to put that together and trying to find somebody we talk
talking with Jason, see if I'm going out and get a price from someone to come in and help
us with this.
So we look at the citywide?
I wouldn't say complete citywide, but I didn't know that was.
You know, yeah, we have a target air, we know the 7th Street on down through the offer, you
know that area down there.
We know we got some culprits over there on Holland, Esplanade, Ranch through the air, and
all that needs, some repairs, you know, some may have to be pulled or whatever, and we know
got some out there road crossing road and everything outboard sets and in some of those areas
that's been you know you have to drive throughout the year and everything. So we're looking
at just trying to get some pricing for spons a couple of people give us some pricing where
we can go in and say okay we might take three or four streets you know here this month, three
or four you know whatever all that area and do them separate but we're just trying to get some
pricing on that and seeing exactly what ours needed.
And that can be forth I mean that's what very good is there for some of what you look
correct yeah we we have some funds available we you know for that so I
know today Jason's talking about Tiana Lane we got to bid them for that you
know we'll have something on that next meeting so do we have a NTA when we can
get that wrapped up and trying to get some quotes out there God I wish you would
yes they know but I find out from Ronnie because we something we try to get like a
unit price one from college where we're trying to get there's going to be no
you know, one of the big things is replacing the drives and everything because a lot of those
over there on seven, you know, we have open ditches and everything, but we got the culverts,
that metal culverts on the front of the house and everything. And then even on the other end,
when you get towards Turner Street down there, off I think it's Bismarck down there where I think
a lot of the problems, you have, I think it's three foot culverts on that and then you can come
down the street and a long turn as well and those may need up upside and then also maybe
another crossover going there to get it out to the drainage. I mean a lot of us just
deal with development and the photography changing of where I've got to go. I'm going to
make some 5, 2, 3 feet over and then it all flow down to 7. So if we don't have the
perfect size covers then it's just yeah. I mean it's just and one of the things we're also looking
know they're putting together. One of the problems over there is, well, you know,
close through and all come through, we checked the drainage through the ditches and all,
you know, in the twin-turning bismuth through there and all, and water was flowing good through that,
water was up and everything, but we do believe we're on a low side of push-load,
covered time, yeah, push-load. You know, to get the water out of there as well, and then when you,
get over to the long fell over there where it all runs out and crosses over the peniture
of length.
We could be on the low side of that as well to allow, because over there, what it does
it runs down the street over there and eventually crosses over down that way.
So we're also looking at maybe trying to upside some of the street culverts that affects that
area as well, but I assume, yeah, I'll get him to see where he's at on it.
I think Christine's working on that, Jason.
So, once you hear the south wind right before that migraine too, that kept them by yourself.
Yeah, we're on high tide and everything else.
It seems like when we do get something, it's not just a rain, but when we had to, you know,
the 12 inches or whatever, that night we're on a six foot tide, you know, and, you know,
and of course, I promise, every drainage we have leads to the water, you know, so it doesn't
help at all.
And that's, I don't know what we do, but just increasing the size and if we could find a proper
to have some hold and pod and all that is a huge help as well, you know.
So, have we looked in this main nightmare made out for one of the zoning ordinance, but
maybe something to discuss in there in the future though, obviously with a lot of the new builds
transpiring. I mean, we know that there's, you know, any time you take an area, that's natural
photography and then you build on it, you're probably looking at 45% to 10% increase runoff.
And then we've seen some, I mean, we've been in dialogue mayor on a couple of that new builds
that they never had issues with flooding now, they're building up. And yeah, it may only
the 18 inches and that's legal, but you know, you're taking an area that probably, and
it gets into more of a neighbor to neighbor issue, but that was draining naturally, and
you raised something up 18 inches, and then it's going under that neighbor.
And so I know the only way we have is to make sure that we get you from it.
We find what we find a lot of times is the last one to build is the drainage pond in neighborhoods.
And anytime that happens, you know, they're not, you know, some of them just bringing
it up, you know, pretty much around level. But again, they're all draining on their property
yeah, and it goes back to me. I think everybody should have a foot or two on their property
line that goes from their backyard to the street with all street to the back. If that's where
the ditch drainage is and you should blow your own water. Is there a way to do that before it gets
Because right now, we can, you know, when it gets to the, we certificate occupancy, you know, we, we have a little bit of, you know, measure there, but before that, I mean, there's really not much we can do, but I mean, there's a way to incorporate that on the early stages of building that you've got a tie in and ensure that you don't have that negative, well, thank you.
I think that, I think that homeowner is responsible for his own water, but is that homeowner? We don't have any things saying that that homeowner is responsible for the neighbors water.
Yeah, but it's there are some of their water that's shedding and then if the I mean if that yeah, if they're they're shedding
And to the neighbors property and yes, they're responsible for that water. Yeah, 1%
That's part of the school water ordinance. We do cover that. Yes, but there's there's always been this public works is in charge of that and a building apartments in charge of that
But it's in part of our ordinance that you're supposed to have a swell between your properties.
to me I think we don't we don't that's where we can get that on the front end when you're
prepared and then that would alleviate a lot of the concerns we're seeing. I mean it was
hit us in the street yeah it's hit us we got the same arm over there you know as that's an
example there by was draining on his property yeah yeah yeah but you know you know they were
holding ponds for the neighborhood and then when they come build you know which is there right
build and also bring in, you know, some fill. So everybody's not running on them as well,
you know. But I think if you look, I don't want to mention those kinies in here, but if you go out
there and look at Adam or Lyle, the subdivision they're doing out there, you know, one thing about it,
theirs, they have gone in there and created swirls on every property line. And to me, when you live on
the water, you, that's way, it should be, you shouldn't have ditched when you live on the water. As long
you put the swales in on your property line from street to the back you know so water can get out
you know and leave it natural or whatever is the perfect way to go and then out that
where you get away with all your ditches now appreciate it doing that and having the foresight to try to
mitigate that and that's one of the nightmares you know with the water you know after Katrina
of course everybody came in and you know it's the neighbor built up to you know the guy built up
it built up three, put four, five, six, six, six, six, six, six.
You know, and it was hookin' with who had the biggest mountain, the buildings on out there.
Mm-hmm.
And it's just, we've got about drainage in those areas.
But yeah, they're trying to come up with something on that.
Kyle is part of, you know, neighbors and I don't think they're there to say anything.
Yeah, they're doing it on each home, on a take care of their own.
Yeah.
It's 442, our stormwater regulation, stormwater level of development sites, so it should be addressed there in construction, a lot of building apartments.
I think Ricky has been going out checking.
Yeah.
I mean, of course, always, for years, it's been a them, they're supposed to do it.
Anything else?
Just a little bit.
All right.
Look for project, look at project sheet.
This because I might ask you earlier last week or two about having a workshop on our projects
Looking at that look at the funding of kind of run some numbers got my own spreadsheet
We have a tremendous amount of city match funds that we have to come up with right and what I think we're getting to the point of
We had some money to do nice cities now. We're getting back to the point of we got so many
projects we have to do so we got to do in the necessities now
Now, we need to have a workshop to go through that list and figure out what actually required
to do and what's not required to do and figure out what will find those projects.
Like a great job, put in a spreadsheet together, change it today, put in other couple things
and they're trying to do some calculations, but right now, we've got a tremendous amount
of capital out there from the city standpoint that we're looking at.
I mean, if I come up with an idea, you want to do it, a council meeting, a council meeting,
and we want to do a separate workshop to do it.
workshop at one night. Yeah but he got a preference on Tuesday workshop
Tuesday week, but that's a 20. Third, he's doing 23rd, anybody got a thing going on?
The room we heard this month?
23rd yes.
The room available, Cate, and D&M. Thank you.
All right, Jason, you good? It's open. Okay, we set it up, Project Meaning on Tuesday, 23rd, April at 5.30.
And just kind of go through there, I think, research and I got a great spreadsheet.
Look at it, try to figure out the projects. We've got not finding mechanisms for some of them.
Again, we've had a lot of niceties, but you know, these drainage projects, these sewer projects,
I'm really, I'm just necessity now, so some of the nice things are going to have to wait
again until we can get squared back up with our money.
About 32 to 23rd.
And with that, I know it has been working on, you know, anti-spatial, anti-spatial, anti-spatial,
as I wanted everything and I'll, you know, maybe we'll have some more information on that.
Probably not by Tuesday because I'm actually waiting on something from NEMA, who's waiting
on FEMA.
So, I doubt very seriously, we get that budget thing, but we can hope.
Michael's happened.
I think I would recommend that if somebody said it, we wanted to do one for each project,
instead of having a bucket of money to two major projects.
Two major projects.
One needs to wreck directly, a affiliated with that project.
So, that's the only project each fund can be used for.
When FEMA turns, you know, returns the money to us reimbursements, we would take that money and pay that note all that we get reimbursed.
So the way this works is you just have to think about your project worksheet or your grant agreement depending on what situation we are in.
You have to think about that is being your collateral. So typically the way we do these things are each one or tied to that specific grant number or FEMA project worksheet.
The other benefit, every now and then we can kind of be creative and see if we can
want projects that are usually from the same funding source together, but that's when
we rely on the financial advisor, because you may shoot yourself in the foot there, because
it might take a lot of banks out of basically you'll raise it to a point that you limit yourself
to the banks that are interested in bidding on that for you.
So, if you do a smaller bucket, you might have 10 banks, that's a myth, 10's a little large, let's say maybe five or six.
And if you up it, you might only have one, maybe two banks, particularly.
The only thing, I know we discussed it last week is only that concerns me is we're sitting there each month paying interest in that liberty of being able to pay us back, which we know can take a couple years, if not beyond.
So, I mean we're sitting there not paying anything on that note paying interest, no.
We're told and documentation from DCMC and DCMC
MC
But the interest on a theme of project like that can be reimbursed.
And he sent documentation on it.
I think that's cool.
Yeah.
That was one of our big questions for the same reasons.
But I'll also tell you I don't want you to make decisions.
Banking on that because we all know how theme works too.
So everybody thinks that it is possible.
when we think that it can be done, but also don't want you to make a decision, and think
it's 100% guaranteed.
Thank you.
It's on the table, the 5% match on our end, so we're looking at total $7 million worth of
projects for $3,000, $5,000 roughly would be our cost for the $7,000, and I know we talked
about where we're getting funds from and our, that's one thing we've looked at as well.
You know, I don't know, but I think we can use road bridge on flat if it came back to it.
If we need it that all.
And again, this is two good projects each theme of fun, you know.
Right.
So where do we determine that timeline?
So again, it's going to be, is it based on a cut-off or is it based on a perpetual,
each month will be paying that interest correct amount of the loan.
So how do we determine it's going to be this amount?
So it depends on what we ultimately go with.
If you go with a short term net, which we probably would not do, if you go with a grain
into the patient node, that typically works as a lot of credit, so you're only drawing
down what you are, so it's very specific to your mechanism.
I would also tell you something that I've probably went and said five years ago, but I'll
say now, if we would have taken some opportunities a few years ago when the market was much
more in our favor for both interest rates and contracting, we could have had all of these
project done, paid interest and you probably still would have been a million dollars ahead
of which you are. So construction prices and commodities keep going up, up, up, up, up, up.
And we're sitting here waiting because we're afraid to pay some interest. Well, ultimately,
our 5% is going up, up, up, up because all we've seen are construction prices increase
three, several last five years, Jason, three really bad.
Yeah, three really bad.
So, I mean, you know, I say that, just because, unfortunately, I've been sitting
in this chair a while and I've seen us make decisions based off of interest, and I think
some of those decisions have really shot us in the plate in a long run.
And what makes us, so, with Mr. Reset mentioned about that being reimbredent by the
interesting reimbursable, what makes it, I mean, is that it's not on cloud, obviously
It's in the law and D.C.
It's provided.
It is.
So why would that change?
Or why would that not be the case?
It's FEMA.
Because it's FEMA is not going to.
I mean, they can hold us.
We've done a proper call.
If her them say, yes, these are reimbursable items.
Well, they, you know, so we're definitely going to get reimbursed.
These are reimbursable items.
We put that in writing.
These are reimbursable items we're telling you now.
So, quite frankly, Kyle, some of this, I'm covering my behind in their
behind, because we're being told that it's reversible, we're being
retold by our consultant, that is reimbursable, but until FEMA does it, and that's the same
one, you know, every aspect of a FEMA project.
I just want to be cautious of making a decision based on that, it could be reimbursable
and then we're on the hook where I'm sorry, it is reimbursable and I should pay it and
we're on the hook for that.
Yeah, unfortunately, reimbursable doesn't mean they're going to actually reimbursable.
Well, I get that. That's what I'm saying. We can't make a decision saying that. Yeah, it's you're going to get that money back.
I don't know. You know, I think want to say, you know, on these two projects, especially, you know,
when you
possibility of three on I don't know what interest could be on a million dollar loan for two years, you know,
say if it's takes two years, if it takes one year, I don't know what that number is off top. My ex, I don't know what the interest rates are.
But I think we're still looking at pretty good deal to move forward on these two projects.
these projects got to be closed down before we get reimbursed and we'll be reimbursed. Well, as we go a lot. I think no. I close up at close out. So definitely got to be right. I thought me man
Just pay that close up. So we don't know.
Depends who. Depends who.
That's another thing. Well, we know now. It's Mima gives money to Mima and then it sits with Mima.
So out of all of us in the past been Mima partial registration, but Mima does not so I mean
So do you give those dates?
It's been done and both you can probably should move pretty quickly the road drive like 90 days
Yeah, that's a time frame is praying right now and it needs to get worse every day
Yeah, but also just chasing I had this conversation either yesterday today
for maybe last week. We've been holding these bids and the contractors have been saying they
would honor these bids for a long time now. So I just want to make sure we know at some
point they might say, hey, you know what, we got to rebuild this thing. I just want to
you know, you know, in prepare that we're talking about like six months now, you know.
The great game again is 7 million dollars. So we're talking about 7 million dollars for
T-project, two-proper, and then the four six. So what is the exact breakdown again on that
1.3.5, 1.3.6, like that Jason?
Right around 3.3.
3.4.
The reality, in casualize, we don't have the capacity to front 3.5 or 7, and still run our normal operations
of just trying to use that cash on hand.
It'll be up half of your checkbook.
And then you're way too to say, guys, if you don't want to do the structure of thing, then give
direction to say, tell Pima, we're not doing the projects.
And if you had that much cash on hand, you would be criticized
high and low for taxing too high.
But so it's not, you know, people always when you start talking about borrowing money
or, you know, doing these grants as a patient, for some reason, there's a few, I would say
citizens that look at this as a negative thing, that's, that's not a negative thing.
You, you know, you can't prepare yourself for, we never know what a storm is going to
how bad it's going to be or what it's going to knock around. So you can't sit on a 20 million
dollar fund just waiting on a hurricane without getting criticized pretty hard for
a high taxis. Good discussion. I meet in September next year.
It's the April 23rd. Yeah. It's 30 p.m. But the thing is the comprehensive plan on the website.
Okay. I don't know why I'm trying to get you to email it to him. I just thought about that.
I just wanted to make it.
Yeah, there's a link that goes to PSL 2045 or something like that.
I just want to go off the box and I like that.
I don't get that drop box.
If I need to put it on, I don't want it to jump for I for you.
All right.
Covert more to our MSIS.
That's telling the fact, or how we're getting people to put culverts in their ditches in front of
the house.
I got a request for one and I told my ex, I don't remember what to help with.
What did you do for the company?
I think we didn't really put into the whole ditch, right, but it's, so we just got out of the engineer
copper, engineer plant for, I know Ronnie and him goes out and I have to talk with Jason
him, so did you need to contact public works to get a permit and you get the ball rolling?
Is it one copper or is it?
I don't think so.
I remember us discussing it with having the engineer stand planes, but then that could be a very
costly venture for the homeowner, and we talked about Jason looking at the review for
it.
Just want to call it like that and everything.
You're running, you'll go out and look at that.
And size.
I don't mean to throw you out of Jason.
I just remember.
I'm not doing that.
If you've gotten wet, we need to heal.
He'll get a hole with Jason.
Okay.
So they don't necessarily have to get, go out and get a structure on his knee and get these planes.
They can just get through the process and make insurance.
to apply it with Brian and Jason.
Okay.
The last thing, it was a blue slingshot park
in front of Pearl Hotel over the weekend,
a few days for rent.
That three-wheel thing?
Yeah.
As we'll say, I know Jeremy was dealing with that last week.
I don't know what to say.
But I know that's been.
Thank you.
Hold the bike for everything.
Yeah, whatever it is.
Go on.
Thank you.
I'd like to be in the crowd of the kill.
That's it.
Yep.
Yeah, I mean, I understand it's not a little rules.
All right.
Public forums, the Bobby Heinrich.
Thank you, left.
Yeah, I think Bobby here for Shills.
The Michael Reeves.
I believe it's 134 close any street.
I have an interesting little tidbit of information.
You might be interested in just reviewing the consent agenda.
So there was the platform for the Faragat loss in the air that was relates to condominium
development in it, but it was the plot of the site was drawn from something in the past.
And it sparked a conversation I had with Jimmy Ladner a year or more to a group of concerning
I asked him if he knew how many handicapped vehicles were being registered in the state as a percentage
to the total number and at the time he didn't know but he went and talked with the state
person and found out that the percentage of handicapped vehicles cars being registered
It's in the range of 20 to 30 percent and just looking at that plot, it basically had no handicap
parking indicated on an understand that plot, which for another purpose,
but where they had
indicated handicapped parking on that spot. It wouldn't be big enough for the requirements
of handicapped parking anyway, so they could either potentially lose a parking spot in there,
in order to make two real handicaps spots in there. So there's an issue with that, and I just
thought it was interesting to the community, to be aware that, you know, 20 to 30 percent
of the car have handicapped licenses and have picked the handicapped people and we are usually
minimizing that in our review with projects and things like that.
We do have guidance on those as far as handicapped spots to record, have to.
There are 10, there are those spots or 10 by 20 spots.
So that we have big enough.
Handicapped spots and needs to be 13 foot wide.
So three of the sort of spots makes you three spots of the 26 feet.
Which will provide for two handicapped spots, which was denoted on the site plan.
Yes, and it's not in.
Talk to City of Bot that will be part of the temporary CO to make sure those are identified.
So that is could be cleared up.
Yeah, well, that was just pure.
Yeah, we didn't do anything, because it's the Lord, but it's extremely high among more handicap, there are some
other issues with handicap accessibility and that that building the parking on that.
on that. Thank you. I will come in on the, on the, on the, on the, on the project,
with the courthouse thing. I mean, the court street of renovation.
would just press the interest in seeing how that was resting along to satisfy my curiosity,
how it's done.
Because as an architect, I find it very unusual to request a 50 percent, you know, see and not seeing anything.
We've got a report on that. It's what I ask for a pitch of percent payment.
Yeah, they're going out about a thousand. I think next week.
Okay, so there's a lot of love.
I've got all those notes meeting to be coming to y'all for five.
Motion advertised.
So design is on this design.
That's definitely something.
Some alternate get as well to see where I fall the money I go.
Okay.
We'll have that.
That's stupid.
Yeah.
It was just strange to me that they weren't giving an estimate of bid until I had everything
printed.
It's not like a park that firms the panel with anybody, hoping to see what they did.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
The administration with Ronnie met with a much out of paternal last week in our office finalizing that kind of stuff and also checking off a few things that our public works department was able to start initiating and doing their own specific several things inside the building such as painting it, the floors, the floors coming those types of things, but the advertisement our intention is to bring that to y'all at next meeting.
All right.
Mr. Henry Scott.
Joe Ann Noel.
Thank you, spoke from State Street.
Miss Williams.
Five-hunter Second Most Street.
Garvin.
Five-hunter.
Five-cherry Hill Diamond here.
I think that's Galavin.
They're all nice.
Yes, fair.
Yes.
You're good.
Just hang out back there.
We're good.
All right.
Any is public form?
Sit.
Thank you.
Get up here. Engineers report, Jason.
All right, thank you. We have four items tonight that we were asking for your approval.
So the first one is for the fire drive sidewalk project.
We want to accept our recommendation to award the contract to bottom the top there with a little better.
And authorize Mayor Dex, view all the contract document.
Now, this did say, it's pending the funding, Mike Rees, so I don't know if you've got
the information from the Gulf Regional.
Now, they sent out, we requested the additional funds.
They have to do a public notice period.
Today, they actually sent the board, including myself, the mayor, all the other kind of people
around the coast that are on that board, electronic vote has going to be approved.
Basically, a reallocation of moving whatever the excess funds were from our old Spanish Trail Project into the Biostreet Project so we can keep moving on that and then in the future when old Spanish Trail comes up again talking about project
We can request additional funds at that time for that project. That's the old Spanish Trail lighting lighting lighting. Yeah.
Hi, and you might make a motion to accept City Energy Reclamation Award to buy a drive.
So I walk a improvement project to lowest and best bidder bottom to top LLC and all
throws to merit.
Exactly.
Actual construction, related documents, contingent upon additional funds being obligated
by M.G.R.P.C. Motion.
Motion.
Subbo.
Second.
Mr. Hoffman.
Any further discussion?
I would like to further discussion.
Say we started this project in 2016.
thing. And it's $495,000 just to put sidewalks and buy a drive. I've talked to been
long in a nap. Is that crazy? And it's ridiculous. Thank y'all for getting to push forward.
There's a lot of drainage work. There's a lot of drainage work. There's a lot, a lot of
coal. There's just a lot of cobras. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Any further questions, vote
motion. All right. Motion passes for zero. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Next item is for
This is a side walk project that we connect from all Spanish Trail to St. Francis.
This project actually came in under the estimate.
So we're recommending a war to bottom the top and to all of the United States.
I've got to say, y'all want to wait for you.
That's hoping he'd be here tonight.
I know, right.
I think he'd like to be here tonight.
No, that's just a way.
He'll be here tonight.
Let's go away now.
This is another 2016 project we've approved for.
Yeah.
I need motion except the engineer's recommendation of Ward Washington Street.
So I walk a proven project that lowers the best bidder part of the top LSC and
authorized Meridex U.L. construction related documents.
Our American motion.
Motion.
Mr. Hoffman.
Check.
I can.
Motion passes.
40.
Thank you.
Third item is the pickleball court.
Motion authorized.
Mr. Mayor, the contract with Moran Holing, that didn't include those contracts in our report.
Did you have a share of that clause that Tom is at the essence in there?
Because that's great.
But it's easy.
I could get more questions on football than any other probably.
I think we got 100 days.
I agree, but we got this as incomplete.
But I mean, I guess it's fine, right?
Yeah, I think it'll just need to be filled out.
I didn't have the city's name up on the top part of it.
When she was four.
Where are we funding this, Ron?
I don't remember.
I was coming to Bonthon, Bonthon.
OK.
I was looking for a apartment in that.
It's going to be pretty close.
You got about half million Bonthon.
I was looking for that and I couldn't find it.
We got four.
150,000, 600, 10.
I'll let it, thank you, man.
OK.
I.
We just spent it tonight.
Yeah, no, right.
I'm most approved of a...
That's the apartment of Health, this is our old one.
Most of the health, Rye's, Mayor Decksky,
contracts with more in-hallent for the construction of the pickable courts. Motion. Motion. Motion.
Taltment. Jack. McSavo. Any further discussion about motion? Aye. Aye. Motion passes for 0.
All right, thank you for that. The final action item. This is for the resolution for the low-interest
loom. So this is a a submitter that we turned in with the ranking form that's been turned in
do Department of Health for two projects for an elevated tank that were low on our
store capacity and then also for water line improvements throughout the city that we
want to change out any line that's foreign to their smaller that we have adequate
pressure, adequate flow, things like that. This is one of those projects where it's a potential
for a hundred percent forgiveness just like the water will but we have to submit the information
see how we stack up against other water project throughout the state and then they'll give us a ranking
going probably around September. And then let us know if we're going to be, you know, in that
100, we've got to get it not. So this is just the resolution authorizing us to submit
that doctorate start to process for the right new tank.
Okay, so that comes second to the
cell. Yeah. Discussion. What was it? What was the cost of that? It was a total estimate.
So the tank, I believe we had two and a half million for the tank, which is should be enough.
we just bid a project report be in bill and that 500,000 gallon of tank came in just under
two million.
And if the water improved, it was around 5 million throughout the city.
But this is one we won't know about this until September or November of this year.
Yeah.
We did the same process with the water well last year.
We submitted it this time of year.
And then we find out around September.
Again, the council at that time can say, it's not forgivable.
Well, for example, you're going to say stop the project and if it still is, then what
is the timeline actually getting that and getting that hit and getting the work done?
I mean, we're looking at pretty lengthy process, I don't know.
Yeah, it is.
It's a lot of work to get the design for the water improvements, particularly to the city
wide.
So even, I would say probably at least a year or more once you find out if you're on the
100% forgiveness list, at least a year before you'd even be under construction.
Yeah, we probably was probably two years out, 25, 25, 25, 26, maybe.
Yeah, we'll get these projects going.
Yeah, if it becomes very good.
So just, yeah, let's not guarantee any more discussion.
Vote to motion.
Aye.
Motion passes.
40.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Thank you.
Just enough they don't stand a lane as I think Mr. Reese mentioned earlier.
We took Bids Day, we had six Bids, three of them were within $3,000 of each other, and so we're
a very waitin' was Bid right now, the second person, second better were about $900 a
part.
So we're lookin' at those, be sure that all the numbers look good, and it will make a recommendation
at the next group.
And Jason's speaking to the water sport, my question on this, and I would discuss the
I want the show to go, but the federal push to make sure our lines that are built before
84, 87, they let the lead.
Where do we stand on that?
I think I ought to put that in here, but let me see if...
Thank you.
Yeah, so we're working with Ronnie and the utilities department to get a list of all your water customers,
and then we can start filtering those out as far as when, like, subdivisions were brought online.
The inventory is due, which is the first phase that inventory is due October this year.
And so we're working towards that.
There won't be any field work per se done before that time frame.
This is just a documentation gathering process.
We've tried to eliminate the ones that we know were built after 1988,
or were prepared after the springtime.
And then at that point, that could turn over through the Department of Health,
and then they will go through and see what the cost are going to be.
We'll go through the same process or those that will be alone, that there will also be
potential for 100% forgiveness, so I'd go through the sole process again with them,
that's because once we know about how many surf block get to 70 and look at it,
they'll be a forgivable loan for this city.
That's what they're telling us now, but if they're very short on information,
the deadlines keep it pushed.
So that's what you know as up today.
Thanks, sir.
Thank you.
I'm Theresa.
A is most of the approved based handle of stock in the claims 24-O21 dated April 16, 2024 and the amount of 2,618,515.90.
Big one compared to some of our previous ones.
Read that.
A lot of it is moving.
In a fun transfer.
I had them three so do me some ABCs and some of that.
A lot of money moving around.
If you get to act wisely.
No, I didn't get that for.
Dilling grandma's school and all that.
You look great.
Eight from D on that one.
Yeah, four items.
I've got a much question Mr. Rizzo got him all answered.
Anybody else had any questions on the docket?
Emotion to approve.
Motion to respond.
Second. Second.
Salvo.
discussion.
Motion.
All right.
I motion best.
40.
B is motion to approve.
Based on those docket claims.
24 deaths zero to two special day to April 16,
twenty twenty four in the amount of three hundred sixty six thousand four eighty eight
twenty five. Not just for a freshman on what's the the change of the new
spoilers are the order of the thousand. That's the freshman on that.
The answer
with you. I don't know off top ahead on that one today. That was done
today. I don't want to give you. I don't know off top ahead. I don't want to speak to
through one of those who were referred to the
order to the last year, man might as well
had
transfer money
how we used to take it from here and just pay the bills and come back that
that now we had to go from
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So we're there for me from a new sort of reserve but that but it's got to go, where's it going, where's it going, where's it going, it's going from a new reserve, I don't have a transfer from the reserve to three account three, oh five, a fun real five,
technical projects,
projects, projects, yeah, going back to capital projects from the reserve.
So basically with the auditors, we were using our Minnesota Reserve Fund to pay bills to, like,
The engineers and contractors, and that was one thing they told us, we shouldn't be using, that's really a capital project fund.
So get that kind of expenditure out of you municipal reserve and put it in a capital project fund, that came out of last year's audit.
Otherwise, are we going to write this up?
That was more of a warning.
So we're taking it. So it's going to be staying in three of five, which capital project.
What's
it originally there?
No, it's moving too. No, but where is it right? I mean push moving back. Right moving back moving back moving back to that
You move it from it was originally it was originally there and taking out but it was a transfer. It's transferred not a long time
So I was putting a pack of those bills
All
right in more discussion
locomotion
We have the motion
We make a motion
We're going to move a little more from that one.
We'll be back up when we read him reading the head here.
I'll give you a motion to Dr. Claims 24 to add zero to two special data April 16th,
2024 amount of 36,000, 480,000, 25 cents in motion.
Motion. Motion itself.
Dr. Claims.
The Hoffman.
Any discussion?
Motion.
Hi.
Motion passes over zero.
Thank you.
It's in agenda.
I like to remove item H, but item H is just the boardwalk project, we'll talk about that separately.
I think this will be part of our project discussions.
Anything else on here?
If I got any questions on, the emotion to prove the consent agenda.
A through W.
It's the Hoffman minus Iron Age.
Check it. Second, Mr. Salvo.
You need further discussion, spoke to motion.
Aye. Aye. Aye.
Motion passed 40.
Item H asks to remove that, Mr. Mayor.
I think we need to have that discussion for our project workshop.
What we're going to do with this project.
Forest funding.
And keep
that out.
And talk about that as far as projectless.
That's why I got problems with that.
Let's just see.
I'll put that one.
Do you want to table it for your next meeting?
And what I'm going to question is do you want to table it for the first meeting
in May?
That'd be good.
Then I'm not going to get to do want to have a recess meeting for your next,
but that's what they call it, a workshop.
Yeah.
I can't vote on anything.
All right.
Minutes approval.
I will second.
I hope I can add any changes.
to update with you guys on that other than we are working on a response or what that
may look like.
So unless.
Okay.
I don't have anything.
Okay.
That's what I was on.
That's what their response is.
What y'all got?
What y'all going?
Oh, sign.
Yes.
Yeah.
We have some here.
We can sign on.
I don't know if I can sign on as soon as the meeting is over.
And actually.
I'm sorry.
Pick them up tomorrow because we've got three of them.
And I think Jeremy also have to sign all of them.
So yeah.
We'll get them all signed tomorrow.
I put my job out down here and got caught up before we leave.
Assignments of announcement will 24th blood donation at City Hall.
Another net motion to you adjourn.
Motion.
Motion by Mr. Hoffman.
Seconded.
Mr. Salvo.
All the favor.
All right.
I'm most best for zero.
Is that a habit?
Yeah.
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