Good afternoon. Before we get started
tonight, uh could I have your attention,
please,
in the room? Thank you. Before we get
started tonight, I've got a little
certificate of recognition I want to
present to a young lady that um stepped
up and done a lot of things for our city
uh over the past couple of years that
I've been involved. So, I asked Victoria
to come forward.
I put together a certificate of
recognition
uh presented to Victoria Wilkinson on
behalf of the city of Beaver Creek. The
mayor proudly recognizes Victoria
Wilkinson, a seventh grade student and
life scout, serving as a senior patrol
leader of troop 269 for her exemplary
leadership, service, and dedication to
her school, her troop, and her
community. Within troop 269, Victoria
proudly serves as a bugler, historian,
and librarian. She is president of the
hearts of and hands 4 club and a girl
scout ambassador and she has maintained
a place on the academic honor role for
four consecutive years. She also
volunteers her time in support of the
Beaver Creek wetlands. As Troop 269's
bugler, Victoria has generously shared
her talent with our community, sounding
taps and calls of remembrance at the
city of Beaver Creek September 11th
memorial ceremony, the Green County Flag
Retirement Celebration, and the
community's Veterans Day and Memorial
Day observances. And in recognition of
her outstanding service, leadership, and
talent, and spirit of giving back, I
present you with this certificate.
» [applause]
» We'll call this meeting to order. Can I
have a roll call, please?
>> Council member Bales
>> here.
>> Council member Bills
>> here.
>> Council member Kern
>> here.
>> Council member Derer
>> here.
>> Council member Lit
>> here.
>> Vice Mayor Upton
>> here.
>> Mayor Adams
>> here. And I'll turn it over to Council
Member Der.
>> Please join me in standing for the
pledge.
Victoria, Victoria, would you like to
lead us, please?
To the flag of the United States of
America, and to the republic for which
it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
» It's hard to imagine because it's still
some time away. Uh but this is our last
uh regular council meeting uh before the
25th anniversary of 911. Uh a fateful
day in our nation's history
uh and the deaths of 2,977
Americans and others uh working across
New York and Washington DC and on United
Flight 93.
Uh it was a day of dastardly terrorism
that cut to the heart of civilization.
Uh I promised that day that I would
never forget and 25 years later uh it is
still in my remembrance.
I also want to think about and to pray
for um the first responders
uh several thousand of whom have died
from cancer and other uh related uh
ailments and injuries uh due to their
heroic actions on that day.
Please take a moment of silent prayer
with me.
Thank you.
» Thank you. We have an agenda before us.
Any changes, corrections?
>> Move we approve the agenda for tonight,
your honor.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to approve
the agenda. All those in favor signify
by saying I.
>> I. I.
>> Opposed.
>> We have a set of minutes before us as
well. August 10th, 2026 regular meeting.
Any changes, corrections, updates?
» Move to approve.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to approve
the August 10th meeting minutes. All
those in favor signify by saying I.
>> I.
>> Opposed.
First thing up, PUD 8004
PD08-4.
Amendment, an application filed by Haye
Howard and Elizabeth Han, 2084 Prudence
Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio 45434. The
applicant requests approval to amend
PUD08-4.
The applicant requests approval to to
place
to add a place of religious assembly as
permitted use within the PUD. The
property is located at 3044 Dayton Xenu
Road, further described as book five,
page six, partial five and six and book
five, page 8, partial 90 on the Green
County Property Tax Atlas.
Ordinance
2620.
An ordinance amending Ordinance 08-46
PU08-4
comfort keepers to add places of
religious assembly as a permitted use.
>> Do we have an applicant or nope?
» Good evening, Mayor. The um applicant
actually reached out to us late this
afternoon. Um there's a illness in the
family so they weren't able to make the
meeting and their their representative
had a conflict. Um so I was going to do
the presentation for staff. This is an
ordinance. So there's the second reading
for this. So if there's questions that come up from tonight, um the
applicant will make sure that there's
someone at the next hearing if this
moves on to the second reading to answer
any specific questions. But I I'll do my
best to answer some of the questions um
related to the business. Um, again, this
is PUD08-4,
um, an amendment from July of this year.
Uh, again, as the clerk stated, they're
looking to amend the PED to add, uh,
places of religious assembly as one of
the permitted uses within the PED.
Uh, the property is located uh, just off
of Dayton Xia Road about 250 ft west of
the intersection of Dayton and Hannes.
Um it's it's a long
very long elongated parcel. Um it's
about 1.9 acres. Um it has 120 ft of
frontage on Dayton Xiai Road. Um but it
sits back the the the principal
structure which is the former house of
the property uh sits back about 300 380
ft or 370 ft from the uh Dayton Xenior
Road. Um, the property currently has a
2,000 square foot. It was a former
house, but now it's an office because
this was reszoned in 2008 from
residential to CPU so that a
professional office could be run out of
the existing house. Um, so it has the
2,000 foot house. It has a a 2100 square
foot detached uh barn uh on the property
that sits about 530 ft back from Dayton
Xia Road and about 13 feet off of the
eastern property line.
Um these are kind of photos of the
structures, the existing structure. The
one on the bottom left is the existing
office building former house. Uh the top
left is exterior of the barn and then
the the photo on the right is the
interior of the barn. Um the intent
would be to uh renovate the the barn so
that they could have uh religious
assembly events in the barn as well as
in the uh the existing office building.
Um again the the area highlighted in
pink is the the PUD as a whole. Um to
the west is an RO1 residential office
and that's a professional office
building. To the north is a vacant R1A
lot owned by the same owners um as the current owners of the of the PED
property. And the intent is to sell that
from my understanding is to sell that
along with the the PUD property all to
the uh the applicants. Uh to the east is
uh a series of R1A properties. Um many
of the houses are set several hundred
feet back. These the ones along Hannes
Road are also equally
elongated, narrow, but very deep
properties and the houses are pushed
closer to Hannes Road. I believe in the
staff report I have a diagram in there
showing that distances back from many of
the houses.
the the the recently approved land use
plan um has the property um within the
Dayton Zenia uh Dayton Zenia Center uh
corridor planning area and that's really
a redevelopment plan so that uh uh in
this specific area it would be for
neighborhood um mixed uses um which a
place of religious assembly is very uh
especially one of this proposed size is
very is compatible with the land use
plan. Uh the the slide here is just the
site as it exists today. Uh just to show
where the parking lot is. And on this
particular slide, north is to the right.
Um you see the parking lot is south of
the uh former house existing office
building. There's asphalt in front of
the uh the barn area and the intent is
to convert that also to parking. um so
that they could uh basically what
they're they they're looking to do is
have about 30 seats in the barn area and
um they needed to take that to planning
commission and and did that as a minor
mod at the meeting two weeks ago and uh
planning commission approved that but
it's also contingent on this uh zoning
amendment case being put forward. So if
the if the zoning amendment does not
pass, then that minor modification is
considered null and void.
That's getting challenging.
>> That's all right.
Okay. Um in terms of proposed
conditions, one is uh everything in uh
ordinance input 08-4 remain except as
modified. Uh one of the conditions is
adding the place of religious assembly.
One is that it is uh just stating that
the their proposed use is compatible
with the land use plan. And then in
ordinance 0846 condition number eight
stated that the only structure that can
have a principal use is the existing
main structure. So it it um precluded
them from doing any principal uses in
the existing barn. Um and so in order
for them to be able to convert that barn
into a place of religious assembly,
um condition number eight of that
original ordinance needs to be repealed.
So that's why it's proposed as condition
four in the uh ordinance before you. Um
planning commission uh recommended
approval of the affle request. Staff has
recommended approval of the applicants
request. And I'll be happy to answer any
questions following the public hearing.
Thank you very much. This is a
ordinance, so there is public input. If
anyone would like to speak to this,
please come forward. State your name and
address, and you'll have three minutes.
My name is Janice Jacobs. I live at 3040
Dayton Xenior Road, right next door. I
have several questions and
unfortunately, they're not here to
answer.
I am wondering why they wanted to move
there where there are so many churches
and other places of religious bases that
are standing empty everywhere.
Why did they want there?
And that's not a barn, by the way.
That's a garage.
When Taylor Plumbing was operating out
of there and Ma and her husband were
still alive, they built that barn to or
that garage, excuse me, to house their
heavy equipment. So, it is not a barn.
It is a garage.
Getting back to the religious assembly
part of that,
I I I
am I'm still baffled by why the why. Who
are they? Why do they want to move
there? What do they want to do there?
Now, religious assembly is such a broad
bunch of words.
What is their intent there?
Are they going to re
on the religious part of it? Anyone
coming in?
I don't see your Muslims coming in
there. I don't see Islamic coming in
there. Um maybe you're Baptist, maybe
you're Methodist, maybe not necessarily
you're Jewish. I don't see a broad use
for this.
Sounds like what they're wanting to do
is turn this into a church.
It's just a fancy way of saying a
church.
» That's all I have to say.
>> Thank you very much.
Anyone else?
>> [clears throat]
» Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. I like the
idea of a religious facility, but I do
have concerns
with the types of uh worship that might
go on and also note the close proximity
to
school here in Beaver Creek. Uh so that
would just be an issue that we need to
at least be aware of so we can make sure
that we
choose wisely and do things like that.
So that's all I have to say. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Anyone else?
Did we have any? Uh,
» oh, sure.
Denny Crouch,
36 to9 Ranchfield Drive, Beaver Creek,
Ohio.
Uh, just a comment. I had not planned to
say anything, but I kind of listened to
what was being said here about
who are these folks that want to
establish a church?
What kind of church is that going to be?
We have a lot of things going on in our
country right now.
many attempts
to employ Sharia law as part of the
Muslim faith.
It has been turned down in the state of
Texas. Thank God for the the governor
stepping forward there about 400 acres.
This is quite a bit different than that.
But it's something I think that we need
to start being considering
because I don't think we want that kind
of law established within Beaver Creek,
Ohio, Ohio or our country. And I just
think it's necessary that perhaps we
need to understand a little bit more
about it before we say, "Yay, verily,
let's have a church at this address."
It doesn't seem to be very uh evident to
me that that we understand where they
are trying to head. I'm very amazed that
they're not here today to to talk to it.
That's quite unusual, I think. So, I
think I just want
you and the board to consider
the possibility of what kind of church
we're going to be allowing if we approve
PUD 0804. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Loren Kip, 3075 Ranchfield Drive next to
Denny. Um, my questions have to do with
that additional piece of property that
they're looking to buy. You know, the
Lshape there that's currently zone R1A.
Not quite sure what allowed there. But
if they're going to buy that, are they
going to put like a parking lot in there
like other buildings for their church?
That was our, you know, in our
neighborhood. That's all vacant right
now. There is a lot of standing water
back there. It hasn't been at Queen
Motor. There's a lot of, you know,
fallen trees down there, but I was just
curious what the applicants their
intentions are with the other piece of
property once they buy that.
>> Thank you.
Andrea Oscaly, 3077 Kemp Road. I would
like to kind of piggyback on that and
just say as an example as to what can
happen with a very small little church
as University Baptist started as they
were just a little corner church and now
they're expanding into this. Now they're
double the size and their parking lots
have grown. They're going to put another
building on that property supposedly
sometime in the future. So it doesn't
just stop with the little building guys.
As soon as you start opening the
floodgates, they just keep on doing
whatever they want to do then. So that's
all I have to say on this matter.
>> Thank you.
Anyone
else?
Did we have any written input? Debbie,
we did get a letter from the physician's
office next door that does not want
their parking lot used in any way,
shape, or form by these people.
That was their worry and concern.
» Nothing further from the citizens. I
will close the uh public input and
council.
I have a couple of questions for Randy.
Uh, one, maybe you can just clarify one
of the comments we just heard about
buying another parcel or selling
another. I thought I heard you say they
were going to sell another.
>> Uh, well, the the current owners that
own the the the narrow strip also own a
couple acre property to the north and
the intent was just to sell both of
those to the uh this current applicant.
>> I see.
>> That uh that property is zone R1A. it's
not being reszoned or it's not part of
this PUD. If they wanted to do any kind
of religious assembly growth there, they
would have to at a minimum go through
the conditional use process through
planning commission where it would be a
public hearing and site plan,
>> including a parking lot,
>> anything like that. Anything other than
putting a single family residential
house back there would
>> Can you point that out on the map?
>> Um, see if I have it on the map. Uh, I
zoomed in way too close to get the full
property. Um, and that's way too far
away. Um,
it's basically just north of the end of
the the PED, the north side of the PED.
It's
basically a rectangular uh parcel closer
to this one.
» I'm sorry. You can see it in your in
your
>> uh it it probably close to an acre and a
half. Yeah.
» Okay. Yeah. I didn't
» or on Yeah. On the first page of the
staff report, you can see the R1A lot
just north of the
>> Sorry.
>> Oh, yeah. That's that's a good
Okay. Sorry.
So, um I know this is kind of a zoning
amendment related to that, but
how do they do you know how they plan to
address parking?
>> Right now, their intent is to only have
30 spaces or 30 30 uh seats in the main
auditorium. And that uh the way the
parking calculation works out is that
they only have to have 10 parking spaces
for that. It's like one for every three
seats. So they could utilize their
existing parking. Um if they want to
expand, they're going to expand into the
existing asphalt, just stripe in some
new parking spaces. There's no intent
right now to um change the layout of the
site. If they did, it would need to go
through the PED modification process,
either minor mod, incidental mod, or
major mod depending on the scope. Um, so
right now there's no no plans to expand
the pavement or the building other than
re renovate the the U garage barn.
And did they provide you any details on
their um church?
Um, in the in the letter of intent
there's they address that they're wanting to run a place of
religious assembly, but we have in our
zoning code,
place of religious assembly is a
catchall for any
similar I mean any of the the
denominations, any of the the religions
out there. We don't make a distinction
between any of those from a zoning code
standpoint.
>> Okay, that's all there.
Hi, Mr. K.
>> Yeah, this is I guess I'm following up
on council members. What's the maximum
number of parking spaces right now? What are they allowed right now?
>> Um that I mean they have 10 parking
spaces.
>> 10. I saw that.
>> And so that would that would allow up to
30 uh seats in the main
>> I see
>> auditorium. Um or a combination thereof
if there's several small ones in the
house. Um, if they want to do any more
than 30 as a conglomerate, then they'd
have to expand parking, create more
parking, one for every three seats.
>> What What kind of is he angled in
parking? What kind of parking?
>> Right now, they're they're 90 degree
parking right off. They're uh you pull
straight in. I mean, there's no it's not
angled because there's no loop for them
to turn around.
>> So, there's there's no ingress and
egress lanes. Just one lane.
>> It's one lane. Yeah.
Thank you.
>> I think Councilman Bales has a follow-up
question.
>> Yeah, excuse me. Um,
at what point, if any, would the city,
if if this were to be approved, would
the city see the building plan and
modification plan, or does that go to
Green County building?
>> In order for them to actually move their
business in, they'll have to do a
certificate of use compliance. Um,
they'd have to do one for the main
structure right now. And if they wanted
to convert the exist the barn the garage
into a new new primary structure, they'd
have to do a separate certificate of use
compliance for that. And we would
require with that to have a minimal
construction drawings, but really the
construction drawings are approved by
the county and the building department.
>> But we'll still require it um just to
make sure that you know that they're
following the uh requirements for added
insulation to help dampen sound.
Yeah. And then the number of seats I
mean it
>> yeah that that'd be part of the
certificate of use compliance is how
many what use how many if it's a
particular like place of religious how
many seats so we can make sure that they
have enough parking to make sure that
they they're compliant. Thank you.
>> I have a couple questions.
>> Sure.
>> Um it's unfortunate the applicant's not
here. I do have a question regarding the
letter of intent that they had sent in
regards to that they they make this the assertation that they have no
intention to change existing buildings
on site um layouts positional other uh I
do have concern
specifically with utilation the
utilization of the garage or barn or
whatever we want to call it back there.
I don't I don't think that it's
adequate. I don't think that it makes
sense. Um I would be
[snorts]
for
striking uh in section one uh condition
four
of the uh that says to strike requesting
to strike section eight from the
ordinance. to where that structure back
there can't be used. Um
the the issue of whether or not the
property is large enough to hold an
entire church services. I mean I
understand if it's a small congregation,
they're talking 30 people. I but I am
concerned and I wish the applicant was
here to kind of walk us through what
they mean by not changing anything and
but they want uh approval. Um, and I
want to walk people through what I was
saying in uh, section one of the
ordinance.
Under bullet four, it says condition
eight of section two of the ordinance
shall hereby be re
repealed. I do not want to repeal that.
I don't believe that the and if you go
down to eight, it says that eight is the
it is the uh that would be on page
I guess it's page 30 of our or 29. It
says the principal principal structure
currently on the site in its current
location shall be the only main
structure allowed. The accessory
buildings on the proposed uh property
shall be for accessory use to the main
business and shall not be converted to
allow for another use on the property. I
want that to stay in. I don't think we
should repeal that.
And again, if the applicant was here to
kind of walk us through what their
intent was, but because of the way that
their letter reads, it states that they
have no plans to really do anything to
that property.
Um, I don't think that the garage should
be used for the church services or it's
close to the back of the people's
backyards. Um, and we don't know what
kind of services they're going to hold
in the in the property.
So, I'll let everybody else speak before
I make a motion, but that's my two
cents. Thanks, Mayor.
>> Councilwoman Bills.
>> Uh, Randy, I have a question. Um, what's
the intent behind only allowing one
primary structure and I understand we
have some exceptions throughout the
city. So, if you could just kind of give
me an overview.
>> Um, well, then when this was done in
2008, I think that there was concern it
was reszoned so that uh they I think it
was a
elderly care or dementia care facility
or or it was senior solutions is what
they resent it for. And there was
concern that there'd be additional
activities in the in the the detached
garage. And so when we took it through
in 2008, it was that was added so that
only the house could be used and and the
applicants at the time had no problem
with that. So it wasn't really
questioned. Um it wasn't it wasn't an
issue.
>> Okay. And so
I think that solved a problem or a
question mark back in 2008.
Um, and it's still a question mark now.
>> So is this something that's allowed
widely throughout the city or is this
would this be an exception?
>> Well, there is I mean there's
innumerable number of commercial
properties in the city that have more
than one business on them. Anywhere in
the mall, anywhere any of the strip
centers. Um, I know this is a different
>> something comparable to this. Um,
well, any I'm trying to think of a
specific
I'm drawing a blank right now, but
>> sorry to put you on the
>> I mean like um
there are a few properties down on date
Xia West. I'm trying to think
>> and Patterson that have church
>> that have Yeah. more than one business
operating or or multiple buildings for a
church um
that operate, you know, out of more than
one facility. And I also saw in the um
planning commission meeting um that
there were there was a discussion around
kind of ingress and egress and that kind
of situ does you said I think that you
had to run that by fire marshall or
>> when the fire marshall is going to be
more uh when they go through the
building if if they're renovating this
building this detached garage into a now
building that's going to have people in
it mass several people they're going to
have to go through the fire uh get
approval from the fire marshal as part
of their building permit approval.
>> And also um but was there any concern
about like emergency vehicles in and out
since it is kind of like a narrow not
two lanes limited space to
>> it's something we can certainly forward
on to the uh fire department to see what
their concerns are. there's not really a
major change to the site um in terms of
the way the ingress egress is being
proposed. I mean there it's staying as
is. So it's one of those things where
fire department didn't say anything
about it
>> over the last several years. It's it's a
more intense use though. So I I get
that.
>> Well, yeah. Yeah. If they're going to
have assemblies of people there, it's
different than customers coming I feel
like in and out individually. Um,
another question was about um ADA
compliance because if they're going to
be holding services in the church and I
know there's I mean are they prepared to
comply
>> the the existing office house it was
when it was converted in 2008 they had
to go through a whole bunch of ADA stuff
to make the restrooms and indoor
facilities ADA compliant. And there's an
ADA um parking space out there by the uh
existing house. they'll have to do as
part of that building permit, they'll
have to make sure anything that's in
that garage would be ADA compliant. Um,
they'll be obligated to follow that.
That's more of a function of the county
than the city. We we tell how many
parking spaces you might need, but
>> bathroom sizes, handles, heights, and
everything like that is really more of a
building department function.
>> Yeah. Um I also uh on a side note would
like to I had some questions I also
wanted to ask um from the applicants and
so kind of disappointed that we can't do
that. Um I was even considering possibly
not moving this forward maybe
tableabling it. Is that possible? So
that we can allow them to come in and
maybe have some of our questions
answered.
>> I've been listening to this and that was going to be my statement. I'm
not comfortable moving forward right now
without an applicant here because
there's too many unanswered questions
and um I would uh I would entertain a
motion to table it until we can get the
applicant here.
» Yeah, perfectly logical.
» You're asking whether you can do that.
The answer is yes.
So, should I
>> should I make a motion to table?
>> Um,
>> I guess it's been done.
>> Okay.
>> I have a motion and a second to table
this until we can have an applicant
present. All those in favor signify by
saying I
>> opposed.
>> I
» Okay, Randy, if you could contact them
and work work out a time that they can
be here. Uh, I understand family issues
and things like that, but you know, they
should have someone else to be able to
step up.
Ordinances, resolutions, and PUDs.
Ordinance 26-9.
an ordinance to levy
assessments for the improvement of
certain streets in the city of Beaver
Creek by maintaining currently erected
poles and providing electricity for
lighting same certain streets and
declaring an emergency upon second
reading.
>> This is a second reading. Anything else
from staff
council?
» Oh, your honor. I'd uh make the motion
to approve ordinance uh 2619 as an
emergency roll call vote.
>> Second.
I have a motion and a second to approve
uh ordinance 26-9
as an emergency. Uh I have a roll call,
please.
>> Council member Kern,
>> yes.
>> Council member Lit,
>> yes.
>> Council member Veos,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Upton,
>> yes.
>> Council member Bills,
>> yes.
>> Council member Derer,
>> yes.
>> And Mayor Adams,
>> yes.
>> Resolution 26-38.
authorizing the police department to
accept the Ohio Attorney General's drug
use prevention DARE grants program
funding.
>> Chief,
>> good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of
council. So, [clears throat] the
department applied for the annual drug
use prevention grant to be used towards
the DARE officer salary for conducting
the drug abuse resistance education
program in the schools. The Ohio
Attorney General's office reported there
was 1.8 million available for all the
drug use prevention applicants and
requests totaled 2.93 million for the
year. On August 4th, we received
notification that we were awarded
$23,76.73
for the 2627 academic school year.
staff recommends council approval for
the police department to accept the drug
use prevention grant.
» I'd just like to say I appreciate you
presenting this chief. Uh back when I
used to teach DARE, my chief and sheriff
made me go over and do it myself
[laughter]
and
>> I hate I hated it.
>> But I I I really appreciate I know this
grant does a lot of good and
I'm 100% behind it.
>> Chief, my son recently went through the
program. Uh, hats off to Officer Pley
for an outstanding job and I'm very
grateful for this this grant and
opportunity. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Yeah, I know we've uh had DARE program
for a long time and I know there's
several adults out there right now that
had Sergeant Hmel
>> and they still remember that his DARE
officer
» there's no further comment. I would move
for approval of resolution 2638.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to approve
resolution 26-38. All those in favor
signify by saying I. I. I. opposed.
Nice to be able to get that.
Resolution 26-40.
» Resolution 26-40. A resolution
authorizing the city manager to enter
into an agreement with the Ohio
Emergency Management Agency for state
funding assistance due to the impacts of
the disaster declaration from the
January 2026 winter storm event.
>> Yes. Uh good evening, mayor, members of
city council. As you might remember, the
Dayton region experienced a record
setting snowfall event in late January
2026. Uh according to the National
Weather Service, the uh January 24th
through 26 storm, uh the city received
uh over 14 inches of snowfall during
that that snow event. Uh following the
event, the uh governor authorized the uh
state disaster relief program to accept
applications for reimbursement from
local jurisdictions. Uh when that became
available, the uh city we gathered all
of our costs from the snow event
together and submitted those. Uh they
have since approved our uh our cost
submitt of $149,473.
Uh of that amount, a total of 75% is
reimburseable back to the city, which
equates to $112,15.17.
Uh the approval of this resolution will
allow for us to formally submit the
application and submit and start the uh
reimbursement process to the city.
With that, be happy to answer any
questions.
>> Any questions?
>> I just want to say nice job keeping all
of the data so that we were able to
submit the reimbursement grant and uh
that'll buy a little bit of salt.
>> Absolutely.
>> Well, not as much as it would last year.
>> That's true.
and thank you for uh your team being
able to keep up with that large
snowfall. I think we had a really good
success here in Beaver Creek but with
that. So,
>> right, it was a tremendous team effort.
The guys in the garage [clears throat]
are awesome at these kind of events.
>> Yeah, thank you.
>> I'll move to approve resolution 26-40.
Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to approve
resolution 26-40. All those in favor
signify by saying I.
>> I. opposed
liquor license.
Chief, you're back.
>> Thank you. All right. The Ohio
Department of Commerce, Division of
Liquor Control, sent notification of a
request for a new liquor permit for Ohio
CVS stores LLC, CVS Pharmacy, store 3458
at 1331 North Fairfield Road.
There were no required record checks on
this request and staff does not have any
objections or concerns with this permit.
Staff is recommending this application
request move forward without comment.
» Motion motion to motion to accept
without comment.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to accept
without comment. All those in favor
signify by saying I.
>> I.
>> Opposed.
And that brings us to citizen comments.
If you'd like to come and address
council on any issue, please come to the
podium, state your name and address, and
you'll have three minutes. It can be
donated up to six more minutes from
other people in the audience.
Hello, I'm Summer Shaw. I'd like to
donate my time to Kelly Campbell,
please.
>> What's your address?
>> 4229 Ridgcliffe Drive, Beaver Creek,
Ohio, 45 440.
» Hi, my name is Laura Keller. I live at
3140 Shaker Town Road and I would like
to donate my three minutes to Kelly Camp
Falls.
Hi, I'm Kelly Campbell, 4229 Ridge Cliff
Drive. I'm the one that they're speaking
about. Um, good evening. I'll be honest,
I am a little exhausted standing up here
tonight. Um, and I think a lot of the
people who have been coming to these
meetings are exhausted, too. You guys
also might be. We've spent months trying
to explain why we oppose this project
and I'm not sure that the city
understands what we're actually saying.
After the last meeting, the message I
took away was at this point our efforts
are essentially feudal. And I think
that's a pretty remarkable message to
hear from the people that we are coming
to speak to. If the public process is
supposed to give residents an
opportunity to influence decisions,
telling them that their efforts are
futile is a pretty discouraging way to
conduct the process.
I've also been thinking a lot about a
conversation I had with C council member
Bills at a recent meeting we were both
at. She pulled me aside and said
somewhat sternly, "Kelly, come here. I
want to talk to you." And I asked her,
maybe not that harshly, um I asked her,
"Hey, why are you giving me the stink
eye? Is what's that for?" She admitted
she was, but then she asked me
essentially, "What do these people even
want?"
And I thought about I thought the answer
was pretty simple. In fact, I was a
little surprised that it even still
needs to be asked. They've been very
clear what they want. They want the city
to stop the project. In short of that, I
think the biggest problem is that the
city and the residents are talking past
each other. The city says, "We've
reduced the width of the shared use
paths. We've scaled back parts of the
project. We talked to property owners
and we've offered to replace or
compensate even for for some of the
trees." And I understand that those are
changes, but the residents aren't
saying, "Hey, we really like the
project, but could you make the path a
few feet narrower?" They're saying, "We
don't believe this project at this scale
is necessary." And those are two very
different conversations.
I don't want to minimize the changes
that the city's made. The city has
reduced impacts. They've narrowed paths.
They've tried to work with individual
property owners, and those things
matter. I understand why the city would
view those as meaningful efforts to
respond to public concerns, but those
concessions don't answer the central
question. They assume that the project
is going forward and they ask uh
residents how to make it less
objectionable. The residents are asking
a different question. Why are we doing
this project at all? And why does this
need to be done so large? When residents
get three minutes to speak and then they
have to wait two weeks to come back and
speak again, that really isn't dialogue.
They make their case, council listens,
maybe there's a brief response and then
everybody goes home and then we rinse
and repeat.
So when the response becomes, what more
do these people want? I think the answer
is they want to know that their
fundamental objection is actually being
considered. And I still haven't heard a
compelling explanation for why
Shakertown needs to become a three-lane
roadway. We keep hearing about grant
funding, but I haven't heard enough
about the underlying need. What current
traffic problem are we solving? What
projected demand requires three lanes
and what's changed since the original
studies that supported the funding? Have
we looked at whether the assumptions
behind those studies still reflect the
re reality of Beaver Creek today? I
understand that grant money is available
but or or been already made available,
but we can get someone else to pay for
it isn't the same thing as we need to
build it. A grant explains why the city
can build the project. It doesn't
explain why the city needs to build it.
And I think we should be asking a bigger
fiscal question. What does the road cost
Beaver Creek over its entire useful
life? If we build substantially more
pavement and infrastructure than we
actually need today, we're not
eliminating that cost. We're creating a
larger maintenance obligation for the
future. 30 years from now, someone is
going to have to repave this road. And
at that point, it won't matter whether
the original construction was heavily
subsidized by ODOT. Beaver Creek
taxpayers will be responsible for
maintaining what we build. And a grant
that that can make the upfront cost look
inexpensive now
won't make the infrastructure
inexpensive uh inexpensive over its
lifetime. If we're building
substantially more roadway than we need,
we're potentially trading a short-term
financial benefit for a long-term
maintenance obligation. So, I would ask
council to step back from the question
of how much money can we save by using
this grant and ask the more important
question. Does this project at this
scale represent the infrastructure that
Beaver Creek and that Shaker Town
actually needs?
There's another cost that doesn't show
up neatly on the project spreadsheet.
The cost to the people who live along
this road. And I'm sorry if I'm boring
you.
The the project the property is
affected. Their trees are affected.
Their daily lives are affected. Their
peace and quiet is affected. those
aren't abstract costs to the people who
have been coming here and speaking about
them. And I also have to say something
about the tone of this process because
at this point some of us are feeling not
simply unheard but treated with disdain.
I don't say that lightly and I don't
mean that every council member has
treated residents this way. But when
residents are repeatedly interrupted,
when they're told their efforts are
feutal, when the response of months of
public opposition is essentially, what
do more do these people want? It's
difficult not to come away feeling that
our participation is being viewed as
annoyance rather than as a legitimate
part of the public process. And that's
particularly frustrating because the
people standing at this microphone
aren't asking for special treatment.
They're asking to be taken seriously
when they raise questions about a major
expenditure of public resources and a
project that will permanently change
their neighborhood. Finally, I would ask
the city to recognize something that
residents opposing this project aren't
confused about what the city has
changed. They understand the
concessions. They just don't believe
that those concessions solve the
fundamental problem. They don't want a
slightly smaller version of a product
project that they don't believe is
necessary. And I don't think that a
appropriate response to that is what
more do you want? I think the
appropriate response is what are they
telling us that we haven't adequately
answered because I don't think that
residents are failing to understand the
city's position. I think the city may be
failing to understand the resident's
position. There's a difference between
saying, "We heard you. We made some
changes and being able to explain in
concrete terms why this particular
project is necessary beyond just the
fact that funding is available for it.
If the road needs to be repaid, let's
talk about the condition of the road. If
there's safety problems, let's talk
about safety problems. If the current
traffic volumes require three lanes,
let's talk about current traffic data
that demonstrates that need. And if
there's future demands that we're
playing uh planning for, let's talk
about those projections.
We have a grant that will pay for this
project is a funding explanation. It's
not a needs assessment. And honestly, I
think we need a different kind of
conversation at this point. These
council meetings don't seem to be
serving anybody particularly well.
Residents come here and get a few
minutes to speak. Council responds
briefly if at all. And then we all come
back two weeks later to do it again. And
I don't think anybody walks away feeling
particularly satisfied. Probably not you
guys either. So I'd like to make a
simple request. Let's sit down and
actually talk to each other. An actual
conversation where residents can explain
their concern and council can explain
the city's reasoning and we can ask
questions and response respond to the
answers in real time. not asking for a
guarantee that we'll get the outcome
that we want, but I'm asking for an
opportunity to understand each other and
to have the kind of dialogue that should
have happened in the first place. If
there's questions that the residents are
raising that haven't been adequately
answered, maybe we can address those,
too. Because ultimately, I think that's
what the public process is supposed to
be about, not just giving people a
microphone, but actually listening what
they have to say. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.
Hi, my name is Kimberly Jackson. I live
at 427 Green Mount in Oakwood.
I come at it from a little different
point of view because I'm not a
resident, but I was always taught that
elected officials should as best they
can and within reason govern their area
while respecting the wishes of the
constituents who elected them. I do not
live in Beaver Creek, so I didn't elect
to. But I'm sitting amongst people who
did elect to, and they are hurting. They
live in a beautiful area of Beaver Creek
lined with mature trees and green grass.
I drive this stretch of road nearly
every day, and it's one of my favorite
parts. It's very tranquil. It's easy to
navigate. Once a week, I walk a dog that
lives on this stretch of Shaker Town.
So, although I didn't elect you, I'm
very invested in the area. As long as
I've followed this saga, I've yet to
hear any citizens speak in favor of the
road widening a or the sidewalk
installation project. What I have heard
is lots of people opposed to it. They've
gathered facts, respectfully come to
meeting after meeting to state their
case, and they continue to be met with
opposition from council to reconsider
the project. At the last meeting, one
member somewhat sarcastically said
something like, "I think we all know the
process by now." I found that comment
incredibly disrespectful to those who
are doing their best to help you
understand their concerns. Why do you
insist on spending money on a project
that doesn't fix an identified problem?
Yeah, it's great when the state pays for
a portion of a project, but you're still
spending a million dollars of your own
money to solve a problem that doesn't
even exist. I encourage you to spend
some time on this stretch of road. Park
on one of the side streets. Watch the
traffic patterns. Look at how much
you're taking from citizens who trusted
you to keep their best interest in mind.
Once you see the effects of a pro of a
proposed project that no one wants, I
pray you change your collective minds
and cancel this project. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[applause]
» Bill Keller, 3140 Shaker Town Road.
I'm asking you to look at Shaker Town
Road based on the traffic and safety
problems that actually exist today, not
an assumption about what might happen
years from now. Before the city takes
people's property and spends millions of
dollars, I believe residents deserve
clear evidence that this project is
necessary.
Where is the documented traffic problem
on the particular section of Shakertown
Road that requires widening it from two
lanes to three? Where is the congestion
that requires a sitter turn line? or is
the crash history demonstrating that
this turn lane even is necessary? I'm
not asking the city to ignore legitimate
safety or maintenance problems. If there
are specific drainage problems, fix the
drainage. If there are specific
dangerous locations, fix those
locations. If the pavement needs repair, the pavement. But that is very
different from reconstructioning the
entire corridor with curbs, gutters,
storm sewers, and a center turn lane
when the existing traffic does not
justify that scale of project. And I
want to be very clear about the center
turning. I don't believe residents
should lose property and have their
neighborhood changed for a lane that
hasn't been demonstrated to be
necessarily demonstrated to be
necessary by current traffic conditions.
If the justification is future
development, then show us the
development. Show us the traffic
projection. Show us the assumptions and
show us why residents today should bear
the permanent impacts.
The same applies to curbs and gutters.
If there's an actual drains problem,
demonstrate it and address it. But
please don't tell residents that an
expensive urban style reconstruction is
necessary simply because it's part of
preferred design. We are asking for
smaller, more appropriate solutions.
Maintain the existing roadway. Address
documented drainage or safety issues
where they actually occur. Do not add a
center lane unless the traffic and crash
data demonstrate that it's needed. and
do not install curbs and gutters simply
because they included in the current
design. Please don't build a road for
traffic we don't have. Spend the
taxpayers money on problems that
actually exist. And before this project
moves forward, I respectfully ask
councelor to require the city to
publicly provide the traffic counts,
crash data, traffic projections, cost
benefit analysis and analyses and
alternative analysis supporting every
major component of this project. If the
city removes the sitter turnling, curbs,
gutters, and unnecessary widening, what
documented existing problem would remain
unsolved? And what evidence proves that
problem requires a larger project?
>> That's all I have.
>> Thank you.
Thank God for God.
Mr. Mayor, Council Member Clary Hill,
658 Waverly Drive,
I'm against this project. I guess you're
getting tired of looking at me, but I'll
be here long till we decided on
something.
But I think we should cancel this.
All we're doing is going to make it more
dangerous. I've got to go across another
lane to go one way or the other.
And I think Beaver Creek's beautiful
right now.
And it seemed to me like it buckers want
to steal Beaver Creek and you want to
steal my land
and I'm against it.
You looking good tonight, hun.
But I would you take in consideration to
disregard this
strip of Checker Town Road.
I think you're taking my life
and putting it in danger.
You just don't say nothing to me. It's
your comment time.
>> Huh?
>> This is your time to comment. It's not
our time to go back and forth.
>> I'd like to hear a little comment. Shut
my mouth and sit down or something.
>> I'm not asking you to do that. Ask you
to.
>> But I would I would appreciate the
council member, the new mayor that you
table this job. We don't need it. All
we're doing is creating and going to
make
they'll change the name if they put that
through from Bieber Creek to concrete
because they want to put two sidewalks,
one on each side of the road
and we don't need them. I've lived there
58 years and I see one person maybe once
every month or two walk up Checker Town
Road. [clears throat]
But I wish you would take consideration
and cancel this project.
I think it's a waste of money.
Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. And I've
been up here many times to talk about
this thing, but I'm going to point out a
couple of different things. Very
disappointed with the way you're
handling the city residents money.
There's a lack of accountability.
And I'm going to talk to some of the
residents that we have here and I'm
going to recommend that we change the charter to where all levies will go
back to a finite period of time defined
rather than a open-end perpetual levy.
That way we're going to take control
back from that. I'm also going to urge
and I know I've talked to a lot of folks
and a lot of folks have talked to me
that they are not in favor of the s the
income tax primarily because of what you
folks are doing think why are we going
to give them more money to do more stuff
that we don't want so you need to take
heed of that and the other thing I'm
going to be talking with some of these
folks over here there's a 1-800 number
that is available and we can notify the
federal government because they can come
and do an investigation on the state
which gets the federal money and the
state will come back and look at you
folks and make sure that you are uh
looking at everything and listening to
the residents. You folks have gone
beyond acceptable to this city and I'm
calling you on it as is everybody else
that's here and there's a lot of other
folks that are not here that that are
not happy with you. There's a lot of
folks that see this video that goes up
there and they they said, "We saw you
talking. We saw everybody up there
talking. It's getting people's attention
and it's not getting yours. So, what is
wrong with you folks?" Mr. Mayor, you're
sitting in the big chair over there. You
need to let the folks that go out there
and look at the projects and everything
else like that or expect projects to go
in there and make darn sure that they
cover everything honestly and accurately
and go back and talk to the residents in
there. So, I've said my piece with you
folks, but I thinking that it's going to
get a little bit ugly. And oh, by the
way, this is the first time all of you
have been looking at me because usually
you're looking down and not. So that's a
big improvement. Thank you very much.
THANK YOU
after after hearing Oh, wait. First, my
name is Kathy Bower. 3497 Shaker Town
Road. um on the the other side of
Fairfield that's being affected.
After hearing everybody, I start feeling
a little bit silly about the things that
I wrote because I wrote more from a
let's try to all get along
kind of thing and I'm going to go ahead
and read it. Um, but I do agree that if
the project is not truly needed, which I
don't feel it is, it shouldn't it should
be able to be tabled. Um,
I'm kind of a rule follower
and as soon as I heard, well, we've
already invested money, we've already
got the, you know, everything in
process, we can't go back. Then I just
kind of accepted that uh maybe too
easily. But I'm going to go ahead and
read my speech.
It feels like everyone in this room is
tired of stating their concerns
and you all must be tired of hearing
them.
I hope you have really heard our
complaints and are working on ways to
compromise.
In fact, I believe that you have to some
degree. I'll be interested to hear your
suggestions.
All of us have bought our homes with
high hopes of creating our homesteads
and possibly raising our kids on this
quiet street.
And for many years, that's just what it
has been.
We all signed those papers when we
bought our properties accepting the fact
that there's easements and city can come
in and take a certain amount
uh of your property. Sometimes it's only
temporary. We're going to dig here,
cover it back up, and then go away. Um
we understood
Oh, I went off topic. Um, we understood
that there may be a need for
right-of-way easements, some of which
would be just a temporary disruption.
But this this feels like the city is
overstepping.
Some of these houses have are already
very very close to the road and now
they're facing the fact that the road
will be that much closer to their front
doors.
It's certainly understandable that this
situation would offend the sensibilities
of these families.
My husband and I have lived on Shaker
Town Road since 1982.
We raised our daughters here and always
reminded them of the dangers of the
road. More than once, we've had cars
lose control and end up in our front
yard.
Now, imagine how we feel about having
the road that much closer to our front
steps.
Not to mention the road sounds from the
traffic that much closer,
that much louder. Of course there will
be push back.
>> Do you have much more? I'm I don't want
to interrupt but
>> don't donate.
>> Okay. Come to the
>> Sorry.
97 Shaker Town Road. I donate my time.
>> Thank you.
>> Um
>> Okay.
My husband and I have lived on Shaker
Town since 1982. We raised our daughters
here and always reminded them of the
dangers of the road. More than once,
we've had cars lose control and end up
in our front yard. Now, imagine how we
feel about having the road that much
closer to our front steps. Not to
mention the road sounds from the traffic
that much closer, that much louder. Of
course there'll there will be push back
but we signed those papers
that we
not that we had a choice.
We are just requesting that you limit
the amount. We understand that
occasionally we may need to accept these
changes, but I don't think that this
plan took into consideration
just how many beautiful mature trees
would be destroyed, changing the face of
our properties.
Some of us have planted trees and hedges
in order to better protect our children
and ourselves.
I know that you have already invested
time and money in this program and that
you can't just back out. I get that.
All I'm asking is that you adjust your
plans back a bit. I would like I would
also like before and after drawings of
what this would look like. I would love
to see you allowing
roundt talks where we can sit and chat
and brainstorm together.
Giving people a more intimate setting,
not like the meetings here where
you all sit up there and listen and we
all take our turn standing at the
microphone. It creates an us and them
atmosphere.
You are not our enemy. In the long run,
change will happen. It's inevitable.
Some people will be pleased. Some people
will be appeased.
And some people will be unhappy.
But at least people will know that they
feel or feel that they are truly heard.
They'll know that they tried. It would
bring them some sense of control.
This would go a long way to settling the
minds and hearts of those affected.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» I promise not to take more than three
minutes.
My name is Barbara Massie and I live at
743 Timberwood Drive in Beaver Creek.
um
to leave my home. I take Greer to
Fairfield.
More than likely, I take Shaker I take
Timberwood to Shaker Town and turn left
or right there because there's less
traffic.
Fairfield. And I realize a lot of it is
because of congestion and backup from
the ever ongoing construction on
Fairfield, but there is more traffic on
Fairfield. I never have a problem
getting out on Shaker Town. To say we
need to increase
the size of Shaker Town, I don't see it.
to say we need sidewalks.
I dare you to go out there and count the
people walking on Shaker Town. You're
going to be sitting there all day not
seeing anyone.
They don't need sidewalks. They don't
need sidewalks on both sides of the
street for people who aren't going to
walk. There's no businesses.
Yeah, there's a church there
operating on Sunday mornings, but there
are not people walking.
They don't need all of this extra stuff
going on.
Consider if you lived on Shaker Town or
just off Shaker Town. How would you feel
about all of this land being taken to
increase the side of a road that
doesn't have the traffic to support it
and sidewalks with nobody to walk on
them?
They're losing their property
because of something that I myself
cannot see
being needed. Um
I worked under a government agent for
many years here. I understand the
protocol
and the
right of dominant domain and stuff but
you have to consider the lives that are
being affected at the same time and is
it worth it? I personally do not feel it
is and I'm hoping I'll be able to
continue to go to Shaker Town and get
out of my development. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
» Please come to the microphone if you
don't mind.
Joe Volani, 710 Carlsbrook Drive, and
I'm going to donate my time to Heather.
Thank you.
I'll let you
» Heather Harvey, 3180, Shaker Town. It's
ironic that I opened up my last comments
to you all with a line about your
complete lack of respect for us. Because
as I'm sure you all remember, just the
before I spoke, the mayor asked me if I
received your letter and then proceeded
to basically tell me, my neighbors, this
city, and the media that none of this
mattered. The message was loud and
clear. Let me let me remind you that we
are just as tired of coming here as you
are of listening to us. We all have
families, too. I could list a thousand
things I'd rather be doing than standing
here. But someone has to stick up for
what it's right. It's a shame it's none
of you. Aren't several of you at risk of
losing your seat next year? I heard
there's an election coming up. Is that
why none of you are brave enough to
speak up? Trust me, doing the right
thing will prove to this city that their
vote should be for you and not somebody
new. I would be ashamed to have my name
associated with approving projects based
on lies, outdated facts, and just going
with the flow so as to not rock the
boat. The only problem is that this boat
is sinking. Word gets around and people
are starting to ask more questions. When
this room continues to fill up week
after week. Don't say I told you so.
What would you do if you were in our
shoes? I'll tell you something that's
really bothered me. Since I stood right
there in this room in the PI meeting in
August of 2025, I stood in a room
surrounded by tons of i8 people. All but
one person was in opposition. Anybody
want to take a stab who that person was?
She just so happens to be sitting up
there with you. You can imagine my
surprise when a few weeks later I found
out she was elected to council. It's no
wonder she was cheerleading this
project. Huh. Something else that didn't
sit well with me was that there was a
man from ODOT there who just argued with
us. He told us that our facts were
opinions. I guess quoting traffic counts
from ODOT's very own website and crash
data obtained from our chief of police.
Him right there. Those are just matters
of opinions and not straight facts. Nah,
it's the cold, hard truth, and it's time
you guys admit it. Stop perpetuating
these lies. This is only getting worse
as time goes on. You're making
yourselves look even more ridiculous by
sending us letters with more lies. We
all know this project won't be done in
12 months. So, for every day over a
year, are we allowed to bill you? Or how
about the BS statement regarding needing
to quote support the growing city? Who
proofread that letter? You do realize
how stupid it sounds to claim this
project is needed, right? Because
despite the fact that this population
has increased, traffic data doesn't
support that. Shaker Town has
maintained. Sounds like you all are the
ones with the opinions. This project
isn't built on facts. It's driven by
opinions. This is a classic version of a
want and not a need. I'd like to
publicly acknowledge that one of you
made a point uh excuse me, to confront
one of us in a very uncomfortable
manner. Not only did you abuse your
quote position of power by humiliating
my friend, but you dropped my name and
called me a liar. Let's be real clear
here. Everything I've said here has been
factual. It's hilarious that you said
you were offended we've been calling you
liars when you literally stood there and
called me one. Are we in kindergarten?
How about you come say those words to my
face and let's have a real conversation.
How about all of you get your acts
together and start behaving yourselves
in public gatherings? Approaching
someone in public doing what you did is
not very becoming of a publicly
appointed official. This city deserves
better. Shame on you and shame on all of
you. This is playing out exactly like
you see on TV. The crooked politicians
go around town paying people off,
bullying them to give up and join their
side. I'm here to tell you, we are not
giving up or giving in. You can continue
going around insulting my character and
my integrity all you want, but if you
expect I won't be here on Monday nights
to give it right back, you're mistaken.
What's clear is you aren't listening.
And your public humiliation event, you
had the nerve to ask, quote, "What do
they want?" As a concerned nurse, I mean
this with all due respect, are any of
you deaf? Did you black out during these
meetings? Have we not been perfectly
clear? Facts are not lies or opinions.
This stupid project was created to fix
two problems that we have time and time
again proven do not exist. So call it
what you want. A lie, an oversight, a
mistake, fraud, irresponsible. It isn't
too late to stop this project. Quit
gaslighting us with the penalty you will
face and accept responsibility for what
you've done. Start pursuing projects
that this city actually needs instead of
what you want. Everyone at home need
listening needs to hear this. These
people sitting up here do not care what
we want. They take credit for one minor
change in a project that I personally
spent hours fighting for. I made all the
calls. I did all the research. I sent
all the emails. If this bothers you as
much as it does me, please contact me.
Show up here next meeting and join us in
our fight for what's right because
Beaver Creek deserves better. Oh, and
PS. Nice try claiming the reduction in
the shared use path was driven by your
efforts. You didn't have the money to
pay m Mr. Whiteiser for the depreciation
of his property. So you had to tuck your
tails and find another solution. Backing
off his land meant you didn't owe him.
And thus the 8oot path was born. Yeah, I
get you bet you didn't know that. Bet
they didn't tell you that. That's what
happened. You were supposed to pay him
and you didn't have the money to do it.
So that's why you had to back off his
land and that's where you got to the
eight foot path. Funny you forgot to
mention that in your letter of lies. I
guess telling the truth is too hard. I
guess sitting in those seats give you
some kind of immunity. And I guess
Beaver Creek isn't the city I thought it
was. Yesterday I saw a poster that I
thought was applies to the situation.
You can't change the cards you're dealt
just the way you play the hands. In
closing, you asked me if I got your
letter last time. Well, I got a second
letter from you guys, and I
wholeheartedly appreciate your efforts
to silent me. Game on.
Uh my name is Ian Crow. I live on 2121
Prudence Drive, Bever Creek, Ohio.
Uh my um complaint is that these new
ebikes that are riding around that kids
love and stuff and I understand because
I'm a kid at heart, but technically it's
kind of causing a nuisance. For one, I'm
afraid that I'm going to get run over by these and get seriously hurt. And
I've read reports that some of these
bikes malfunction and blow up and stuff.
But the re reason why I say this, like
shouldn't, seeing how these bikes have
motors, shouldn't you have a license for
this? Because a moped has a motor, you
have to ride it on the street with a
license, but the kids are riding on the
walk path, which I understand,
but basically saying is like I see these
I see kids riding their bike on the
special needs park that I uh practice
softball on and there are marks on the
turf and I'm g and and I'm trying to
save the taxpayers money by saying, "Why
are you destroying And these and these
bikes are kind of made like dirt bikes.
I mean, you see kids wearing dirt bike
helmets because then you know that these
bikes go 20 miles to 28 miles per hour.
Someone can get seriously hurt.
And I understand Councilman Upton said
to me that they they are looking into
it, but I for one am worried about my
safety. I mean, I understand I can't
drive myself because of my um learning
challenges, but there has to be
responsibility. I understand kids want
to have fun. It's like riding a
motorcycle and stuff, but with great
power comes great responsibility.
And like I said, if kids want to ride
it, then get a license. If the
insurance, if you need insurance, well,
that's up to the parents. And that's Oh,
and one other thing that um When I walk
on the walk path to my job at Lowe's or
when I'm walking from there, there are a
lot of cracks like sideway cracks all
the way up close to Speedway and I can
put my whole foot in there. And I would
ask that uh money would be used to fill
up those cracks because if I ride my
regular bike, I'm afraid that I'm going
to get hurt and seriously hurt and I
don't want to cause the taxpayers money
and stuff. I'm looking out for myself
and others. Thank you. Thank you.
» Hello, Lori Volani, 710 Carlbrook.
Um, of course, about Shaker Town. We've
come before you now repeatedly to ask
for this project to be cancelled because
you all are elected, our elected
representatives. You were elected to
represent us, not people who might be
driving on Shaker Town 10 years from
now, but to represent those who live
along there now, not drivers in the
future, um, but us, the current
residents who have chosen to live on
Shaker Town or just off the road and
drive it every day. Um, we see the
number of vehicles that drive on this
road. We know that we have little
difficulty getting on and off of
Carl'sbrook, on and off of Merrick. We
see there's a nominal amount of
driveways and roads which require a left
turn to enter. On the south side of
Shaker Town, there's three roads and I
believe approximately eight driveways.
Um on the north side of Shaker Town
where we are, there's only two roads and
seven driveways.
In your letter that you sent to us, you
stated about the growth of Beaver Creek.
I know Beaver Creek has grown. The
subdivision on the north side of Shaker
Town, uh where we live, has has room for
no more houses. It's built out. The
housing area on the south side of Shaker
Town also can't have any more building
unless there's something that you all
aren't telling us. So along this route,
the number of left turns, there really
can't be any more left turns than there
already are. Um, we turn left frequently
off of Shaker Town and it is a rare
occurrence that there is a car behind us
that is being delayed because we had to
slow down to make our turn. So just
because Beaver Creek is growing and and
I I grew up in Beaver Creek, it is
growing, but that doesn't mean it's
growing around by us because it has not
been not anymore. Um my understanding is
that you apply for this grant with uh
numbers that were based on the
pre-reconfiguration of Shakertown um and
35. If this is not the case, please show
us that my mother has lived on Shaker
Town for 55 years. We've lived just off
Shaker Town for six and we just do not
see the traffic volume whether we're
driving or just sitting in our backyard.
Also, in your letter, you noted that you
had spent almost a million dollars. But
if you would have come to us first
before you spent anything and had a
meeting with the affected citizens and
listen to what our concerns were as our
elected representatives, you could have
saved that money. Um, I can personally
tell you that if my husband and I felt
this project was necessary, we would
support it. So, I just wonder, I mean,
do you not hold a meeting because you
knew we would be against it, and so you
might not have gotten what you all
wanted, which was a nice wider road. Um,
if that's the case, then you're just
pushing your desires on us.
The last time the city income tax was on
the ballot, I voted for it, even though
it would have negatively affected me
because at that time, I worked in the
city. And of course, I live in the city,
but I'm not going to vote for it this
time because you're using our money
against us on pushing this road project
onto us that we do not want. So my hope
is um if you go through one little two
lines, my hope is that if you go through
with this project, those of you on
council will drive this project in this
road a lot because you can then enjoy
the sterile sterile roadway, the
wonderful three lanes, curbs, and no
trees because those of us who live there
will not be enjoying it. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Hi there. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and
Council members. Lisa Nybert, 2970
Shakertown Road. Hi. I'm here again in
opposition to the road winding project.
Our city has a responsibility to
maintain our streets. This area of
Shaker Town, this 68 miles
has been neglected for about nine years
or more. I would like to know why
officially from documentation.
I would like to know why when it had
previously been scheduled for
reservicing, what the budget was and why
it was not completed.
We the residents have provided you
factual data that you guys cannot
refute. yet you repudate the data and
have stated that you are proceeding with
the project. I think that was
blatantly clear in our letter we got a
few weeks ago that it is going forward
tonight where we are at actually
this area of Shakertown does need
maintenance resurfacing and storm sewer
improvements.
I believe these things are all covered
slashfunded by our current street
levies.
Project 119964
is not past the point of no build.
Beaver Creek has not received the funds,
the federal funds, so you don't have to
give it back.
Your current expenditures are already
over budget.
That won't be a total loss as you can
still use much of the engineering design
drawings that have been spent that $1
million on so far towards the necessary
storm drainage and resurfacing and
overall traffic needs. Just not this
particular project.
The federal funds applied for sadly were
the wrong funds.
In my opinion, as a citizen and as a
business owner who's done government
contracting for my entire life, what you
are faced with right now is you need to
withdraw your application.
With all the newer information, you can
apply for a correct grant that will do
what we need done and ease the burden of
the taxpayers.
When I do my job wrong, if I make
choices for my business and my
business's future without doing my due
diligence, I have to accept and manage
my way through the consequences. And
that is what I'm expecting Beaver Creek.
I say Beaver Creek, all parties, you is
the whole of it. I'm expecting you guys
to do that. It's not devastating. It
won't be pleasant experience, but it's
still good business. Be responsible and
do what's best for our city. Thank you.
Rex Turner, 1456 New Way Drive. I know
you my time to
>> Thank you.
>> Um,
good evening, Mr. Mayor and city council
members. Uh, my name is Gary Dunl. I
live at 340 Shakertown Road, and I stand
before you in 100% opposition to the
Shakertown Road improvements project ID
number 119964.
Uh our group opposes this waste of local
taxpayer funds and federal funds. Uh and
we've consistently brought to your all's
attention multiple times facts that that
don't support the project and and you've
heard more of them tonight. So, uh,
additionally, I'm going to give each of
you some some hard copy of some stuff
and
give you some some something to look at
and and and so it's just these facts are
just overwhelmingly um I I don't know
how you guys as a group can sit here and
look at these facts and listen to the
facts that your engineering department
has given you and have any any clue of why you would even approve this
thing. It's just absurd. Um so, uh
number one, uh the MVRP funding
application, first page of what I gave
you all, um states on there that that
the urban major collector, the the third
highlighted area there is 5,300 vehicles
per day. And that is not even correct.
If you'll look on the data that I've
supplied attached to that, there's no
5,300 vehicle per day count on there.
So, your engineering department is just
making up numbers and throwing them on
there. Number one. Number two, that
whole that whole thing was based on based on
pre Shaker Town Road 35 access. Um, if
you look at the counts today, um, our
counts have gone from like our traffic
counts have gone from like, you know,
6,300 cars a day. Um, back in back in
2016 to 2019, 2020, they dropped to
like, you know, 3,300 uh, per day. So,
why are we spending $5 million to put in
a new twothirds of a mile roadway? I
mean, what sense does that make? Can any
of you tell me that? I don't think it
can. Um the facts speak for themselves,
you know. I mean, and it goes on. Um in
the data that I have given you all, it
gives you specific year by year by year
from 25 all the way back to um
[clears throat] all the way back to
2016.
Um, this is ODOT information that gives
you the daily traffic counts of
Shakertown Road and it's measured right
there at um um
» Carthage. Yeah, right there at Carthage.
That's where the That's where the counts
are taken. And And it's just I just
don't
again half of what it was like six years
ago. and you all want to spend $5
million on a road expansion. I mean,
what sense does that make?
Can I mean, I'd love to hear an answer
from you somehow someway. It makes no
sense whatsoever.
Um, number two, um, the same application
is indicated has identified the fund
source that this project is to be funded
under is number one. It says again going
back to the first page that I gave you,
please identify the fund source you
anticipate this project to be funded
under. You're they're saying suggested
congestion mitigation and air quality.
What congestion do we have on Shakertown
Road? And what air quality problems do
we have on Shaker Town Road? Now, now
you guys want to take 125 trees out of
Shakertown Road. Yeah, we're going to
have some air quality issues, but how
can you how can you how can you as a
city council and how can you as a mayor
allow your engineering department to
send this kind of crap in? It's false
information.
It's absolutely false information.
I just I it just baffles me that that
you as a you as a council that are
responsible for the employees of this
city can allow this kind of information
to pass.
It makes no sense whatsoever. Um
number three um
additionally the you know the MBRPC
application states please or provide a
short description um of the needs and
benefits of the project uh and that's
attached to you go back to like the
after after the traffic uh reports um I
think it's like the fifth six page back
in the space prep below provide a short
description of the need and benefits of
this project. So they're saying, your
engineering department is saying the
project is needed to provide safe
passage to the traveling public through
the corridor of Shakertown Road by
reducing accidents. We've already been
through that 10 times. There are no
accidents on Shakertown Road. There are
deer strikes, but we don't have
accidents on Shaker Town Road. But
they're using that as a basis for $5
million of expenditure. And what sense
does that make? Um
Additionally reading on by reducing
accidents, reducing congestion. What
congestion do we have on Shakertown Road
and improving safety to the general
public? There's no safety issues. So,
this is just all being created by your
engineering department for no reason
whatsoever other than to spend taxpayers
money. To spend a million and a half
dollars of Beaver Creek taxpayer money
and and $3 million of federal money.
It's just crazy. How can you guys
approve this stuff? There's no logic to
it. There's no facts to it. Uh accidents
will be reduced. We don't have
accidents. And safety improved through a
two two-way turn lane. We don't have
those issues.
Um
number four, um it goes on the next
page. If you look at project or project
benefits and complete streets
discussion, number one project benefits,
improved traffic flow along Shakertown
Road. We don't have problems with
traffic flow. Number two, improved
safety along Shaker Town Road. We don't
have safety issues. Improved pedestrian
access. We don't have pedestrians on
Chakertown Road. Improved bicycle
access. We don't have bicycles on Shaker
Town Road. They are creating all this
stuff and you guys approve it. How can
you do that? It's all created. It It's
just there's no facts to any of this
stuff. No facts whatsoever. So, um so
here we are in closing. Uh the facts are
uh I presented you all again uh to
reinforce the fact that your engineering
department has been very very inaccurate
in the facts that they have used um in
this application process. And your
choices are three. You Mr. mayor and you
city council members do what is
professionally and ethically correct and
bring this project to a stop. It's all
wrong. Number two, if not, you are
failing in your roles as representatives
of the citizens of Beaver Creek. We're
travels fast and I and I suspect that
many many more citizens of Beaver Creek
are going to know about your handling of
this project um if it's not stopped.
Now, number three,
you all are are moving us closer to seek
out alternative means of bringing this
awful project to anatomy.
Uh, and I don't want to go there. So,
uh, I thank you, Mr. Mayor and city
council members for your time. U, please
counsel this or cancel this member
project immediately. It benefits nobody.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
She's already
Anyone else?
again. I am Janice Jacobs, 3040 Dayton
Xenior Road.
We've I have just lived through what
these poor people you're going to make
live through.
I've lived through it since the 5th of
July, 2025
with the widening
and the removal and replacement of the
sidewalks.
When it started, I believe that
well, this nightmare is a wonderful
thing to start going through every
single day.
I was paid for five feet of my frontage
of my yard.
Next thing I know,
not only did they take five feet of that
frontage, they turned around and came up
my driveway 5T behind what they had paid
and took out a retaining wall in the
process.
I now have water standing in places it
never has stood before because that dog
on sidewalk is above grade.
Every yard just about through that area
from
where they started it from the log cabin
dentistry down to main school all slopes
down towards the south.
They built that sidewalk above grade.
We could at one time before this pull
directly out onto Dayton Zena
straight out every house through there
except for the dentist or not dentist
but the veterinarian on the hill next to
me.
Now we have to go up and over a hump to
get out on Dayton Zena
that is acting as a dam.
On the right side, as I'm facing south,
on the right side of my driveway, I had
this lovely
uh drainage culvert.
It's now above where the water is
supposed to be draining.
Because of this lovely project that you
guys just finished,
I now have ponding water in the opposite
side of the tree that's in my front
yard,
big enough that I can put fish in and go
fishing.
When it gets overflowing,
it now runs down and it is cutting a
gully in my front yard across all of
that beautiful new black top you put on
my driveway.
So, yes, everyone,
this is what you're going to be looking
forward to if they pass this and go
forward with this.
I hope you don't
because you've actually ruined Dayton
Zena through there because of all the
trees that you've cut down for this
because of all the construction and the
destruction of that construction.
Don't do this. Don't do this to the
Shaker Town neighborhoods.
Don't do this to Shaker Town.
>> Thank you.
Anyone
else?
All right, seeing none, I will close the
uh citiz comments. Uh council time.
Councilman LL.
>> Thank you, mayor.
Again, thanks for everybody for coming
out.
There was uh
a lot of comments, some new things we
haven't heard before, but a lot of
things we've that's been repeated. And I
understand the desire to have a back and
forth with us up here.
This project here was a long-term
planning goal with the city before I was
even elected. these
major throughfair areas.
Um, we can pretend today that we feel
the traffic isn't high in that area and
like it'll never increase in the next
year or two.
The city does
make
choices and attempts to see into the
future. We've tried to
stop projects like the gas station that
went in because we knew that the
overpass down there, everybody wants it.
If a project like that does happen, you
will see increases in traffic on Shaker
Town. Absolutely.
All the projects that are currently
happening in the township, Beaver Creek
Township, when those are all completed
and filled, you will see traffic
increasing on Shakertown Road.
The Shakertown Road project isn't
this section of roadway that we're
discussing isn't the only section of
Shakertown Road that has been expanded
over the years. This is a continuation
of a project that's been moving forward.
This roadway
is in front of your homes and I get that
and I understand how it directly impacts
you because you're the residents that
live there. However, you are not the
only people that use that road.
There are people all over the city and
outside the city that use that road and
that will continue using that roadway.
The roadway is being developed by the
city as a whole. Everybody's paying for
it, not just the individuals that live
in that in that area. The property take
that people have made comments about is
this project is an anomaly in the fact
that it does not take
a lot of people's private property. Most
of this project is happening in the
right of way.
The
comments that were made regarding
not being a little 204, I don't know
where those things came from. I will
tell you that me personally, I went to
MBRPC had discussions with with the uh
grant writers, the approval pro the
approval and the head of MBRPC in
regards to this project.
um calls were made to ODOT to see about
reducing this sidewalk because that was
what we were hearing and wanted to do
something to
say we understand that a 10-ft sidewalk
didn't make sense to you. Um they agreed
didn't have anything to do with payments
not being able to be afforded. So I
don't know where that comes from.
Um, we all hear things and and sometimes
we hear things that we want to hear. I
like
this project
in the sense that I was on Shakertown
Road today. I was west of Fairfield
Road, though. I wasn't all the way down
where you were today. Um, and cars were
directly in front of me. Two of them
moved over to the center lane to turn
left into driveways, which allowed me to
continue on in the roadway while they
stayed in the middle lane and cars
coming west while they waited. It does
allow for safer traffic.
Um, this is an improvement to storm
water.
I I hope the the lady from Dayton Zena
has contacted the engineering
department. I know you that's the first
anybody up here has heard anything like
that. I can promise you and I hope
you've made contact with the engineering
department to get something out there to
get a a resolution to that immediately
before it goes any further. I do know
that we've had record rainfall in the in
the month of August, which is crazy. Um,
but I hope I hope that you do that the idea
that this this develop this developing
this roadway decreases decreases
property value is unprecedented.
If if you if if you ladies and gentlemen
if you increase we
>> if there was no property taken from an
individual
It can't decrease the property value for
that individual.
The
I'm out came out of the line. I do want
to to to um address Miss Harvey
specifically.
» Sir, you've had your time with council
time. Miss Harvey, you stated when you were making your statements, I I
thought you were looking at me. I'm I'm
not sure if you've heard somebody state
that I said something about you to
somebody.
» Okay. I just wanted to make sure you
knew you knew that I had never
>> So, I wanted to I wanted to I'm just
trying to address the things that I
heard because people say and this is how
much people wanted to hear the back and
forth by everybody walking out of the
room.
I'm just making statements, ma'am.
the
I've heard tonight that there's been no
accidents and then I heard another
individual say they've had cars in their
front yard.
>> Okay.
I've heard I've heard
>> that. That's fine. I I'm okay. I'm not
mad about I'm not mad at anybody. I'm
just I'm just making statements no
different than what you were doing when
you were standing here. Okay. The comment about
wanting to go do away with all levies
and make them in because you don't like
roads being fixed. That right there
makes no sense to me. I don't know why
anybody would make comments like that.
I I I don't I don't know why anybody
would say something like that.
Um and I do want to end by saying that
and I wish I'd have said this last week
and I should have said more. Um the
letter that was sent to everybody was
signed by the mayor and I did see this
letter before it went out. I do endorse
what Mayor Adams had to say in that
letter. This project is moving forward
in from my opinion because it is a
project that we approved last year as
part of the long-term plan for the city
of Beaver Creek. Not only for traffic
that day, but future traffic problems
that are going to come in the future.
And I know I've upset some people. It's
not the first time I've upset people.
I'm I'm retired law enforcement. I've
made people mad every day. So, and and I apologize if I hurt feelings. I know
people stormed out of the room, but
that's that's just where I stand. And I thank you for my time. I yield my
time. That's all I have to say.
>> Thank you, Councilman Der.
>> Appreciate it, Mayor. And I want to
thank everyone uh in attendance today. I
know it's exhausting to come out
multiple times. Uh we do listen.
It takes a while to think it through.
And I want to make a statement to all of
you today. Um, I don't anticipate that
I'll change any minds and I don't
anticipate that I'll assuage anyone. I
know that there's significant cynicism
of government and I understand that. Um,
but I'm a neighbor. I'm a human being.
Um, and I mean you no harm. I really
don't. I'm trying to do what's best for
the city as a whole. Um I'm one of seven
members of council
and I haven't discussed my statements
with anyone. Um
if we start on a macro level when the
city started in 1980
world population was 4.4 billion. Today
it's 8.1.
Nationally it was 230 sorry 226 million
today it is 342
in the city it was 31,000 it is now
47,000
throughout the entire world we have seen
growth
uh the expansion of areas the need for
upgrades things of that nature and so
today I really just want to explain some
of the tradeoffs in my thinking whether
you agree or disagree here's Here's some
of the backdrop.
If we start with a really basic point on
simply the need to repave, I know
there's real concern over the amount of
repaving that we've seen in Beaver
Creek. Uh, and I've driven the
congestion myself,
but what I would like to note to you is
that imagine the alternative. Imagine
that your roads didn't get paved.
Think about cities
that don't take care or don't plan
ahead.
It is something where a city will
degrade
and fall in the minds of people quite
quickly. And so our goal here is to
upkeep the city.
Should
it be paved under the current
configuration?
Our tradeoff is that we have a
thoroughare plan going back to 2019.
There are similar examples on North
Fairfield, on Kemp, on Graange Hall, on
Indian Ripple. And I know that they
cause upheaval to the residents that
live there. I've gone through similar
things in my own life. It's it's not fun
for a season. Uh but at the same time,
if we were to look at Shaker Town to its
east and to its west, we have seen those
infrastructure improvements. Imagine
driving through seeing the improvements
in one area, not in the 6 milesi and
then seeing it again.
We and a number of people have correctly
pointed this out that the thorough play
thoroughare plan should have been
updated in 5 years that's 2024.
Uh we initiated a land use plan and to
update zoning and so this is something
that is on our radar and as I noted in a
previous council meeting our funding is
peacemeal. We have to do it piece by
piece. The equivalent is imagine having
to pay your mortgage all in one payment.
It's why it has to be this quote unquote
Frankenstein road and why we have to
plan it and do it appropriately.
A great question was raised at a
previous meeting that is do
infrastructure changes lead to property
value decreases?
Um, I think it's a great question to ask
and I've spent significant time trying
to research it. It's one of the reasons
we don't have a back and forth because
we all need just time to go research and
to understand.
I'm an academic. The best I found in
general is the answer is no.
Real estate is almost always a good
investment, but there are circumstances.
the great recession of 2008, um subprime
mortgage issues,
um
inflationary issues, uh localized
concerns. And so what I ask you is this.
If if there's something that we don't
know as a council,
please send me a peer-reviewed paper
that has studied this. I will read it
back and forth. uh please
I I've been through many of these and I
found
can we do an econ economist a realtor is
specialized in a certain way but an
economist studies wider trends
so
» no no it it can be global it you just
find something so I found two I found
two I looked at multiple articles.
There's one from the the Netherlands in
2016.
But if you're looking at the way that
infrastructure has changed, it's low its
impact on local a local economy, that's
what's giving us examples. It happens
when there's infrastructure around major
um you know there's a train station as
one example where the infrastructure was
upgraded the property values decreased.
It's things like that that I I'm
interested in studying and learning
more.
What about the traffic counts?
There's a clear difference of position.
Uh and let's for a moment take the the
numbers that were given here. Uh I drive
Shaker Town very regularly. My wife
works on Shaker Town.
You know, I I observed some of the same
things that you observe. Here's what's
on the other side of the ledger. And
some here have rightly said, you know,
what's happening here and now,
but we do have to think through
projections that we've been given.
And I don't know the answer to these
things because they're projections.
One is that there is a proposed
development of 1600 houses
in the township. Can I guarantee you
that there'll be 1,600 houses? I have no
idea.
What about a new high school? I have no
idea.
But we do need to at least think through
the tradeoff of an additional several
thousand cars potentially per day.
Again, I don't know, but it's what goes
through my mind in terms of thinking and
in terms of making a decision.
The argument was made on sunk costs.
I thought that was a very good argument.
It really appealed to me.
Um, I thought it was very very
thoughtful.
The other side of the sunk costs
argument is that the road still isn't
paved.
But on the other side of sunk cost is
also opportunity cost.
I don't know what happens
if we turn this money back.
How do MVRPCO O do look at us when we
apply again?
We don't know is the answer. That's the
challenge to it because again we're at
large members. We represent all of
Beaver Creek. If we say no to this,
what happens down the line? And we don't
know. That's I'm explaining the
tradeoffs that we have to think through.
I'll leave it there, ma'am. Thank you.
>> Thank you,
Counciloman Bills.
» So, I think out of all of us, I'm the
only one that actually lives back in
that neighborhood.
I've sent my kids
to go to our church, which is one of the
churches on Shaker Town, and they have
to cross from Koi over to the church
across the street. There's a whole host
of families back there that go to that
church. And I can tell you in the almost
20 years of living back there that I've
seen multiple young children almost get
hit by people in Chakertown.
And I and that was your first response
to me when I said that the first time we
talked about this. I was immediately
shut down.
But it's the truth. You want us to
accept your truth and your feelings
about things.
But when there's other truths and other
experiences, those somehow are not as
valid.
I understand Heather how I understand
your frustration. And I am not trying to
change your mind. I don't I'm not trying
to make you like
the church is fine with the sidewalk.
Um but I don't have control over that.
I'm not in that position. But my point
is Heather is and and for for everybody
for anybody who lives in a project, Pete
lives in a project that he doesn't
particularly enjoy all the time. I mean,
it it happens to all of us at a point. I
thought it sucked when the culvert had
to be replaced. That was a nightmare.
You know, we all lived with that for
ages. It seemed like it was unending,
but it was necessary.
There are no pedestrians on Shaker Town.
You are absolutely right because it's
dangerous.
I wouldn't walk on Shaker Town as an
adult and I would never send kids out on
Shaker Town. I mean, I have pulled my
car over and like put it in the road so
kids waiting there can cross. It's
scary. So, we ab I mean, I have to say I
am in support of it will make this
street safer.
It scares me to even try to go around
bicyclists. There are just ditches.
There's not even a shoulder to the road.
Yeah, there'll be there's two and
there's one further down on the other.
Yeah, which is better. But and I I do
understand. I mean, when the tree oak
tree issue came up, I was concerned. We
reached out. We have all had so many
discussions about your concerns and
trying to find ways to make things
better. We have tried to compromise and
we have achieved some compromises.
There have been efforts
and I do look at some of the houses on
Shaker Town and recognize that you guys
are I would not be happy either. Your
houses are closer than I'm sure you wish
they were. Um
I get it. But once again,
we're and I don't want to say that, you
know, 20 people or even 30 people or
even 40 people, but compared to almost
48,000 people to a city, we have to look
at the larger picture. We have to think
about the future.
And this potential development
is an issue. There are going to be
things changing. We are going to see
more traffic.
You're you're right. They don't. And
unfortunately, we have to make
» we Well, I didn't yell over you when you
spoke. And I also don't need you to make
comments about my appearance when you
come up front either.
Okay.
When he came up and said, "Oh, you're
looking fine today, honey.
Yeah. Okay.
Well, now that we've gotten past that,
anyway,
truly, no one is trying to hurt any of
you. I do understand your frustration. I
don't expect you to love this project. I
don't expect you to love the experience
of these repairs. I don't think any of
us have enjoyed living through the
things that have happened, you know, in
our neighborhoods either. I just had a
tree come through my creek and my yard
got flooded and my basement's flooded
and you know, I mean, but it's a moment.
Things will get fixed. I can wait, you
know, for the the crews to come to take
care of my tree. Um, by the way, thank
you. They came and took care of the
tree. Um,
I'm happy to sit down with any of you,
but I do approve of this project. I also
read the mayor's letter,
and while you may not have liked what he
had to say or perhaps the way it was
worded,
our mayor's intentions are endlessly
kind and endlessly responsible and
thoughtful.
He thinks about everybody all the time.
And I can say that about everybody up
here.
These are wonderful people. Our
employees are wonderful people. No one
is trying to pull the wool over your
eyes. No one is lying to you. I'm not
saying that there may not have been a
mistake like a a road count that only
counted one way and didn't count the
other way or, you know,
a stake that's a a foot away from where
it should be or something like that.
We're all human.
Everyone is human. You guys are also
human.
And all representations from perhaps
there have been errors on both sides. I
mean, or maybe we're talking past each
other, but no one's trying to hurt you.
Everyone is doing their best. And I
understand that you don't like the
project. I'm not going to try to
convince you to love the project. And
I'm not going to convince you to stay
home. You can come and complain about it
every single meeting until the thing is
over. And then you can keep coming after
that. I'm never going to tell you that
your voice isn't important and that you
shouldn't come and be heard.
So, thank you for coming out. I'm sorry
that you're unhappy.
And
I'm happy to talk to any of you. Thanks.
Oh, and on a happier note, I would like
to welcome
um Officer Hunsburgger to the city. Um
it was great to go to his swearing in
and I'm looking forward to his time with
our city. Thank you.
» Thank you very much, Councilman Bales.
» Thank you.
Uh, I too appreciate everyone coming out
sharing your thoughts. I also appreciate
listening to council's thoughts on on
the issue. Um, and I don't think I'm
going to expound any more than what
we've already heard and and talked about
on it. Um, because we've all shared a
lot tonight and I took a lot of notes
and and again, I appreciate that. But on
a uh a happier note as well, like to
congratulate the uh Beaver Creek Beaver
football team for their big win over
>> Zenia.
Uh and I want
>> I want to wish everybody a happy Labor
Day and um look forward to seeing
everyone at the popcorn festival. I
yield.
>> Councelor Kern.
>> Thank you, your honor. Again, I'd like
to uh thank the individuals who have
come up week after week each meeting
that we've had given your opinion.
But on the other side, I support the
wisdom that's been presented by council
tonight. uh it takes a lot of guts many
times for people to think long range and
I think the uh evidence that's presented
by uh the members of council tonight uh
was very very very well presented and uh
I certainly support moving ahead with
the project realizing that people are
not going to be totally happy uh as we
move forward. forward.
>> Thank you, your honor.
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Upton.
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Adams. Um, there's
certainly been a lot of uh emotion and
passion uh spoken about here tonight and
I won't get into rehashing similar to
Council Member Bales. Um, you know, a
lot has been said and I think all of us
took a lot of notes. You know, I heard
tonight obviously a lot of discussion on
Shakertown Road. Uh we talked a little
bit about the religious facility that
was presented tonight and ultimately
tabled. Uh we heard from about ebikes
and uh something I learned again tonight
was about the uh drainage issue there in
Dayton Zena. So I mean when you all come
forward and speak about these things
that does help us form our opinion. Um
it helps us do our research. Um so you
know with all sincerity thank you for
coming out tonight. Um, and you know, I do look forward to hearing more
because it does bring different points
up. Um, you know, it was said new things
were brought up tonight and some things
were repeated. So, we will go to the
drawing board and look at some of those
new things. We will, uh, potentially
talk about some of those things that
have been repeated. Uh, but again, you
know, having the citizen input is part
of the process, right? None of us would
be here if we didn't care. None of you
out there would be here if you didn't
care. None of us up here would be would
be here if we didn't care. And that's
just it. We all care for Beaver Creek in
our community. Much more than just a a
symbol of a beaver that we all
celebrated at our last meeting. Uh so
with that, I do look forward to more
dialogue um with everybody um on on any
of the topics. Um I was going to talk a
little about the popcorn festival, but I
see it's in the city manager report, so
I will uh defer to him on that one. Um,
I do want to express a quick thank you
to the school district. Uh, with school
coming back in session, uh, school buses
have been running on time. Uh, my kids
were not excited to go back to school.
Uh, but, uh, it seems to be, uh,
everything flowing smoothly with the
schools and traffic, uh, throughout the
city. So, I'm appreciative of that. Uh,
and I appreciate the police department,
um, everything they're doing to help
keep everybody safe out there. That's
all.
>> Thank you very much. I too would like to
thank everybody for coming. Um
first of all and the young man left but
uh the ebikes and the e-otos there's
some work being done on ordinances
throughout where several cities around
the area are working on that because
they are becoming very dangerous. Uh
I've run into that same situation myself
and uh you know we will do something
about that and don't know what that'll
be at this point. But uh something else
that was brought up by Councilman Litel,
I spoke with the U Township and there
are projected 1,600 homes being built
there at the uh Trabine overpass and
they will be connected probably through
Valley Springs Road to Yellow Brick
Road. And where does that go?
Right on Shaker Town. So I assume we
these when we look at things,
you know, I've been here 60 years. I I
look back a lot of good things happened
in the past, really good things. But a
lot of things have changed in those 60
years.
In the next 60 years, we're going to see
a lot more. Uh we're going to be build
out in Beaver Creek one day down the
road, but the township is still growing.
There's a lot of things happening out
here. So those are the things that we
have to look at. We can't say, "Well,
everything's fine right now." Because if
we were to stop this project, turn all
the money back, five years from now when
all this stuff builds out, we have to do
it again. It'll cost five times as much.
Nothing stays the same. It's it's just
the way it is. Uh and those are some of
the things that we have to look at. Uh
so with that, I do want to say thank you
to uh Councilman Bales for bringing up
the high school football team. Uh I was
there Friday night and I was there
Saturday and gladly accepted the trophy
back from the mayor of Zenia so I could
present it to the coach. That's the
first time in five years that we've been
able to do that. So that was a that was
a really fun time. Uh, and I know that
uh uh Mayor Reynolds was not happy about
it. In fact, he and I had a little bit
of a uh a bet going on that I will
gladly
accept when he gives me. So,
with that, I'll turn over to city
manager.
>> Hey, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Quickly, the
manager's report uh summer entertainment
series will continue free event at a
party on the patio with DJ
August 29th. So that's next Saturday
6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at the golf club. Next
one after that, uh party on the golf
range with Jukebox Apocalypse is
Wednesday, September 23rd, 5 to 8:00
p.m. Come and join these free concerts
and have a good time.
uh town halls. We have two of them
coming up. Uh first will be September
15th at the Beaver Creek Senior Center.
These are on finance. This is our third
year uh doing these. So they've been
informative. September 15th 6 to8 at the
senior center and the second town hall
will be a month later October 15th 6 to
8 at the uh golf club.
Uh our mentioned earlier our offices
will be closed on Labor Day of course
and for emergencies uh not emergencies
contact 911 but for non-emergencies
something in the road or something of
that nature uh contact the non-emergency
number of Beaver Creek Police Dispatch
937-4261
1225.
And yes, Beaver Creek Popcorn Festival
is coming. The city has a tent right
beside the police tent as well. Uh,
Saturday, September 12th, 10:00 a.m. to
8:00 p.m. and Sunday, September 13th,
11:00 a.m. to 6 pm. Uh, usually staff
and and various council members uh staff
it. This is something that though the
entire popcorn festival, if you haven't
ever been there, you're missing a real
treat. Uh, there's a 5K run, art, arts
and crafts, whole bunch of things. So,
please have a look at that. Uh, Dayton
Xia Road, I do want to mention, will
close at 4:00 a.m. September 12th and
will reopen at midnight on Monday,
September 14th. So, make be prepared for
that. Uh, festival is not organized by
the city. However, the city and police
will have booths. So, please stop by.
Shout Park uh fundraiser. Uh, again,
just want to state this is a continuing
ongoing so far. for 203 uh donors and
$19,67
in funds that have raised up to August
24th. So, please uh stop by. Uh you can
ask about it at the popcorn festival if
you'd like or online beaver creek.gov
shout park slide. And that's all I have
tonight.
>> Thank you very much, Councilman Curran.
Move to adjourn, your honor.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion and a second to adjurnn.
And all those in favor signify by saying
I.
>> I.
>> We are adjourned.