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Good afternoon. Before we get started

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tonight, uh could I have your attention,

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please,

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in the room? Thank you. Before we get

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started tonight, I've got a little

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certificate of recognition I want to

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present to a young lady that um stepped

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up and done a lot of things for our city

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uh over the past couple of years that

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I've been involved. So, I asked Victoria

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to come forward.

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I put together a certificate of

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recognition

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uh presented to Victoria Wilkinson on

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behalf of the city of Beaver Creek. The

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mayor proudly recognizes Victoria

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Wilkinson, a seventh grade student and

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life scout, serving as a senior patrol

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leader of troop 269 for her exemplary

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leadership, service, and dedication to

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her school, her troop, and her

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community. Within troop 269, Victoria

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proudly serves as a bugler, historian,

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and librarian. She is president of the

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hearts of and hands 4 club and a girl

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scout ambassador and she has maintained

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a place on the academic honor role for

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four consecutive years. She also

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volunteers her time in support of the

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Beaver Creek wetlands. As Troop 269's

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bugler, Victoria has generously shared

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her talent with our community, sounding

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taps and calls of remembrance at the

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city of Beaver Creek September 11th

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memorial ceremony, the Green County Flag

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Retirement Celebration, and the

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community's Veterans Day and Memorial

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Day observances. And in recognition of

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her outstanding service, leadership, and

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talent, and spirit of giving back, I

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present you with this certificate.

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» [applause]

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» We'll call this meeting to order. Can I

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have a roll call, please?

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>> Council member Bales

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>> here.

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>> Council member Bills

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>> here.

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>> Council member Kern

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>> here.

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>> Council member Derer

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>> here.

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>> Council member Lit

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>> here.

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>> Vice Mayor Upton

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>> here.

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>> Mayor Adams

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>> here. And I'll turn it over to Council

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Member Der.

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>> Please join me in standing for the

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pledge.

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Victoria, Victoria, would you like to

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lead us, please?

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To the flag of the United States of

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America, and to the republic for which

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it stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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» It's hard to imagine because it's still

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some time away. Uh but this is our last

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uh regular council meeting uh before the

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25th anniversary of 911. Uh a fateful

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day in our nation's history

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uh and the deaths of 2,977

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Americans and others uh working across

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New York and Washington DC and on United

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Flight 93.

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Uh it was a day of dastardly terrorism

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that cut to the heart of civilization.

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Uh I promised that day that I would

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never forget and 25 years later uh it is

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still in my remembrance.

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I also want to think about and to pray

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for um the first responders

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uh several thousand of whom have died

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from cancer and other uh related uh

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ailments and injuries uh due to their

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heroic actions on that day.

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Please take a moment of silent prayer

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with me.

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» Thank you. We have an agenda before us.

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Any changes, corrections?

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>> Move we approve the agenda for tonight,

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your honor.

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>> Second.

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>> I have a motion and a second to approve

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the agenda. All those in favor signify

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by saying I.

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>> I. I.

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>> Opposed.

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>> We have a set of minutes before us as

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well. August 10th, 2026 regular meeting.

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Any changes, corrections, updates?

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» Move to approve.

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>> Second.

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>> I have a motion and a second to approve

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the August 10th meeting minutes. All

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those in favor signify by saying I.

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>> Opposed.

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First thing up, PUD 8004

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PD08-4.

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Amendment, an application filed by Haye

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Howard and Elizabeth Han, 2084 Prudence

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Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio 45434. The

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applicant requests approval to amend

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PUD08-4.

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The applicant requests approval to to

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place

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to add a place of religious assembly as

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permitted use within the PUD. The

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property is located at 3044 Dayton Xenu

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Road, further described as book five,

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page six, partial five and six and book

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five, page 8, partial 90 on the Green

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County Property Tax Atlas.

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Ordinance

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An ordinance amending Ordinance 08-46

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comfort keepers to add places of

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religious assembly as a permitted use.

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>> Do we have an applicant or nope?

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» Good evening, Mayor. The um applicant

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actually reached out to us late this

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afternoon. Um there's a illness in the

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family so they weren't able to make the

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meeting and their their representative

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had a conflict. Um so I was going to do

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the presentation for staff. This is an

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ordinance. So there's the second reading

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for this. So if there's questions that come up from tonight, um the

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applicant will make sure that there's

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someone at the next hearing if this

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moves on to the second reading to answer

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any specific questions. But I I'll do my

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best to answer some of the questions um

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related to the business. Um, again, this

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is PUD08-4,

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um, an amendment from July of this year.

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Uh, again, as the clerk stated, they're

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looking to amend the PED to add, uh,

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places of religious assembly as one of

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the permitted uses within the PED.

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Uh, the property is located uh, just off

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of Dayton Xia Road about 250 ft west of

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the intersection of Dayton and Hannes.

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very long elongated parcel. Um it's

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about 1.9 acres. Um it has 120 ft of

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frontage on Dayton Xiai Road. Um but it

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sits back the the the principal

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structure which is the former house of

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the property uh sits back about 300 380

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ft or 370 ft from the uh Dayton Xenior

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Road. Um, the property currently has a

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2,000 square foot. It was a former

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house, but now it's an office because

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this was reszoned in 2008 from

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residential to CPU so that a

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professional office could be run out of

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the existing house. Um, so it has the

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2,000 foot house. It has a a 2100 square

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foot detached uh barn uh on the property

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that sits about 530 ft back from Dayton

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Xia Road and about 13 feet off of the

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eastern property line.

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structures, the existing structure. The

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one on the bottom left is the existing

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office building former house. Uh the top

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left is exterior of the barn and then

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the the photo on the right is the

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interior of the barn. Um the intent

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would be to uh renovate the the barn so

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that they could have uh religious

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assembly events in the barn as well as

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in the uh the existing office building.

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pink is the the PUD as a whole. Um to

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the west is an RO1 residential office

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and that's a professional office

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building. To the north is a vacant R1A

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lot owned by the same owners um as the current owners of the of the PED

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property. And the intent is to sell that

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from my understanding is to sell that

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along with the the PUD property all to

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the uh the applicants. Uh to the east is

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uh a series of R1A properties. Um many

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of the houses are set several hundred

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feet back. These the ones along Hannes

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elongated, narrow, but very deep

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properties and the houses are pushed

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closer to Hannes Road. I believe in the

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staff report I have a diagram in there

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showing that distances back from many of

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the houses.

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the the the recently approved land use

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plan um has the property um within the

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Dayton Zenia uh Dayton Zenia Center uh

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corridor planning area and that's really

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a redevelopment plan so that uh uh in

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this specific area it would be for

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neighborhood um mixed uses um which a

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place of religious assembly is very uh

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especially one of this proposed size is

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very is compatible with the land use

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plan. Uh the the slide here is just the

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site as it exists today. Uh just to show

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where the parking lot is. And on this

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particular slide, north is to the right.

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Um you see the parking lot is south of

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the uh former house existing office

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building. There's asphalt in front of

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the uh the barn area and the intent is

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to convert that also to parking. um so

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that they could uh basically what

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they're they they're looking to do is

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have about 30 seats in the barn area and

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um they needed to take that to planning

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commission and and did that as a minor

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mod at the meeting two weeks ago and uh

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planning commission approved that but

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it's also contingent on this uh zoning

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amendment case being put forward. So if

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the if the zoning amendment does not

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pass, then that minor modification is

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considered null and void.

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Okay. Um in terms of proposed

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conditions, one is uh everything in uh

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ordinance input 08-4 remain except as

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modified. Uh one of the conditions is

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adding the place of religious assembly.

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One is that it is uh just stating that

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the their proposed use is compatible

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with the land use plan. And then in

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ordinance 0846 condition number eight

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stated that the only structure that can

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have a principal use is the existing

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main structure. So it it um precluded

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them from doing any principal uses in

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the existing barn. Um and so in order

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for them to be able to convert that barn

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into a place of religious assembly,

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um condition number eight of that

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original ordinance needs to be repealed.

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So that's why it's proposed as condition

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four in the uh ordinance before you. Um

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planning commission uh recommended

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approval of the affle request. Staff has

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recommended approval of the applicants

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request. And I'll be happy to answer any

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questions following the public hearing.

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Thank you very much. This is a

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ordinance, so there is public input. If

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anyone would like to speak to this,

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please come forward. State your name and

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address, and you'll have three minutes.

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My name is Janice Jacobs. I live at 3040

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Dayton Xenior Road, right next door. I

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have several questions and

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unfortunately, they're not here to

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answer.

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I am wondering why they wanted to move

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there where there are so many churches

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and other places of religious bases that

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are standing empty everywhere.

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Why did they want there?

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And that's not a barn, by the way.

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That's a garage.

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When Taylor Plumbing was operating out

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of there and Ma and her husband were

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still alive, they built that barn to or

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that garage, excuse me, to house their

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heavy equipment. So, it is not a barn.

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It is a garage.

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Getting back to the religious assembly

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part of that,

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I I I

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am I'm still baffled by why the why. Who

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are they? Why do they want to move

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there? What do they want to do there?

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Now, religious assembly is such a broad

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bunch of words.

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What is their intent there?

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Are they going to re

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on the religious part of it? Anyone

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coming in?

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I don't see your Muslims coming in

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there. I don't see Islamic coming in

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there. Um maybe you're Baptist, maybe

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you're Methodist, maybe not necessarily

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you're Jewish. I don't see a broad use

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for this.

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Sounds like what they're wanting to do

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is turn this into a church.

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It's just a fancy way of saying a

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church.

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» That's all I have to say.

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>> Thank you very much.

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Anyone else?

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>> [clears throat]

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» Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. I like the

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idea of a religious facility, but I do

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have concerns

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with the types of uh worship that might

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go on and also note the close proximity

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to

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school here in Beaver Creek. Uh so that

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would just be an issue that we need to

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at least be aware of so we can make sure

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that we

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choose wisely and do things like that.

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So that's all I have to say. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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Did we have any? Uh,

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» oh, sure.

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Denny Crouch,

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36 to9 Ranchfield Drive, Beaver Creek,

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Ohio.

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Uh, just a comment. I had not planned to

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say anything, but I kind of listened to

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what was being said here about

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who are these folks that want to

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establish a church?

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What kind of church is that going to be?

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We have a lot of things going on in our

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country right now.

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many attempts

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to employ Sharia law as part of the

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Muslim faith.

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It has been turned down in the state of

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Texas. Thank God for the the governor

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stepping forward there about 400 acres.

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This is quite a bit different than that.

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But it's something I think that we need

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to start being considering

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because I don't think we want that kind

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of law established within Beaver Creek,

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Ohio, Ohio or our country. And I just

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think it's necessary that perhaps we

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need to understand a little bit more

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about it before we say, "Yay, verily,

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let's have a church at this address."

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It doesn't seem to be very uh evident to

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me that that we understand where they

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are trying to head. I'm very amazed that

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they're not here today to to talk to it.

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That's quite unusual, I think. So, I

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think I just want

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you and the board to consider

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the possibility of what kind of church

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we're going to be allowing if we approve

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PUD 0804. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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Loren Kip, 3075 Ranchfield Drive next to

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Denny. Um, my questions have to do with

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that additional piece of property that

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they're looking to buy. You know, the

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Lshape there that's currently zone R1A.

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Not quite sure what allowed there. But

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if they're going to buy that, are they

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going to put like a parking lot in there

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like other buildings for their church?

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That was our, you know, in our

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neighborhood. That's all vacant right

382
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now. There is a lot of standing water

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back there. It hasn't been at Queen

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Motor. There's a lot of, you know,

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fallen trees down there, but I was just

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curious what the applicants their

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intentions are with the other piece of

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property once they buy that.

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>> Thank you.

390
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Andrea Oscaly, 3077 Kemp Road. I would

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like to kind of piggyback on that and

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just say as an example as to what can

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happen with a very small little church

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as University Baptist started as they

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were just a little corner church and now

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they're expanding into this. Now they're

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double the size and their parking lots

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have grown. They're going to put another

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building on that property supposedly

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sometime in the future. So it doesn't

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just stop with the little building guys.

402
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As soon as you start opening the

403
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floodgates, they just keep on doing

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whatever they want to do then. So that's

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all I have to say on this matter.

406
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>> Thank you.

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Anyone

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else?

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Did we have any written input? Debbie,

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we did get a letter from the physician's

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office next door that does not want

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their parking lot used in any way,

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shape, or form by these people.

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That was their worry and concern.

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» Nothing further from the citizens. I

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will close the uh public input and

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council.

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I have a couple of questions for Randy.

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Uh, one, maybe you can just clarify one

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of the comments we just heard about

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buying another parcel or selling

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another. I thought I heard you say they

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were going to sell another.

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>> Uh, well, the the current owners that

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own the the the narrow strip also own a

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couple acre property to the north and

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the intent was just to sell both of

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those to the uh this current applicant.

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>> I see.

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>> That uh that property is zone R1A. it's

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not being reszoned or it's not part of

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this PUD. If they wanted to do any kind

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of religious assembly growth there, they

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would have to at a minimum go through

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the conditional use process through

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planning commission where it would be a

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public hearing and site plan,

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>> including a parking lot,

439
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>> anything like that. Anything other than

440
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putting a single family residential

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house back there would

442
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>> Can you point that out on the map?

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>> Um, see if I have it on the map. Uh, I

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zoomed in way too close to get the full

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property. Um, and that's way too far

446
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away. Um,

447
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it's basically just north of the end of

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the the PED, the north side of the PED.

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It's

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basically a rectangular uh parcel closer

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to this one.

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» I'm sorry. You can see it in your in

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your

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>> uh it it probably close to an acre and a

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half. Yeah.

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» Okay. Yeah. I didn't

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» or on Yeah. On the first page of the

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staff report, you can see the R1A lot

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just north of the

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>> Sorry.

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>> Oh, yeah. That's that's a good

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Okay. Sorry.

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So, um I know this is kind of a zoning

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amendment related to that, but

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how do they do you know how they plan to

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address parking?

467
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>> Right now, their intent is to only have

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30 spaces or 30 30 uh seats in the main

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auditorium. And that uh the way the

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parking calculation works out is that

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they only have to have 10 parking spaces

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for that. It's like one for every three

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seats. So they could utilize their

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existing parking. Um if they want to

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expand, they're going to expand into the

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existing asphalt, just stripe in some

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new parking spaces. There's no intent

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right now to um change the layout of the

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site. If they did, it would need to go

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through the PED modification process,

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either minor mod, incidental mod, or

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major mod depending on the scope. Um, so

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right now there's no no plans to expand

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the pavement or the building other than

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re renovate the the U garage barn.

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And did they provide you any details on

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their um church?

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Um, in the in the letter of intent

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there's they address that they're wanting to run a place of

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religious assembly, but we have in our

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zoning code,

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place of religious assembly is a

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catchall for any

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similar I mean any of the the

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denominations, any of the the religions

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out there. We don't make a distinction

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between any of those from a zoning code

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standpoint.

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>> Okay, that's all there.

500
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Hi, Mr. K.

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>> Yeah, this is I guess I'm following up

502
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on council members. What's the maximum

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number of parking spaces right now? What are they allowed right now?

504
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>> Um that I mean they have 10 parking

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spaces.

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>> 10. I saw that.

507
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>> And so that would that would allow up to

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30 uh seats in the main

509
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>> I see

510
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>> auditorium. Um or a combination thereof

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if there's several small ones in the

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house. Um, if they want to do any more

513
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than 30 as a conglomerate, then they'd

514
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have to expand parking, create more

515
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parking, one for every three seats.

516
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>> What What kind of is he angled in

517
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parking? What kind of parking?

518
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>> Right now, they're they're 90 degree

519
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parking right off. They're uh you pull

520
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straight in. I mean, there's no it's not

521
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angled because there's no loop for them

522
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to turn around.

523
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>> So, there's there's no ingress and

524
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egress lanes. Just one lane.

525
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>> It's one lane. Yeah.

526
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Thank you.

527
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>> I think Councilman Bales has a follow-up

528
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question.

529
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>> Yeah, excuse me. Um,

530
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at what point, if any, would the city,

531
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if if this were to be approved, would

532
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the city see the building plan and

533
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,880
modification plan, or does that go to

534
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,279
Green County building?

535
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>> In order for them to actually move their

536
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business in, they'll have to do a

537
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certificate of use compliance. Um,

538
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they'd have to do one for the main

539
00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:33,120
structure right now. And if they wanted

540
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to convert the exist the barn the garage

541
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into a new new primary structure, they'd

542
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have to do a separate certificate of use

543
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compliance for that. And we would

544
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require with that to have a minimal

545
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,720
construction drawings, but really the

546
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construction drawings are approved by

547
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the county and the building department.

548
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>> But we'll still require it um just to

549
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make sure that you know that they're

550
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,039
following the uh requirements for added

551
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:03,520
insulation to help dampen sound.

552
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Yeah. And then the number of seats I

553
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,120
mean it

554
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:08,400
>> yeah that that'd be part of the

555
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,919
certificate of use compliance is how

556
00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:12,400
many what use how many if it's a

557
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,039
particular like place of religious how

558
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,039
many seats so we can make sure that they

559
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,400
have enough parking to make sure that

560
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,919
they they're compliant. Thank you.

561
00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:23,120
>> I have a couple questions.

562
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:23,840
>> Sure.

563
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720
>> Um it's unfortunate the applicant's not

564
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,279
here. I do have a question regarding the

565
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,159
letter of intent that they had sent in

566
00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:37,679
regards to that they they make this the assertation that they have no

567
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,320
intention to change existing buildings

568
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,400
on site um layouts positional other uh I

569
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,799
do have concern

570
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,360
specifically with utilation the

571
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,279
utilization of the garage or barn or

572
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,039
whatever we want to call it back there.

573
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,520
I don't I don't think that it's

574
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480
adequate. I don't think that it makes

575
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,073
sense. Um I would be

576
00:27:05,073 --> 00:27:06,240
[snorts]

577
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,919
for

578
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:12,880
striking uh in section one uh condition

579
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,039
four

580
00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:18,559
of the uh that says to strike requesting

581
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,360
to strike section eight from the

582
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,520
ordinance. to where that structure back

583
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,159
there can't be used. Um

584
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:31,120
the the issue of whether or not the

585
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,200
property is large enough to hold an

586
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
entire church services. I mean I

587
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,760
understand if it's a small congregation,

588
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,039
they're talking 30 people. I but I am

589
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:42,400
concerned and I wish the applicant was

590
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,240
here to kind of walk us through what

591
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080
they mean by not changing anything and

592
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,919
but they want uh approval. Um, and I

593
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:53,919
want to walk people through what I was

594
00:27:53,919 --> 00:27:59,919
saying in uh, section one of the

595
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:01,520
ordinance.

596
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,440
Under bullet four, it says condition

597
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,159
eight of section two of the ordinance

598
00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:11,440
shall hereby be re

599
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,320
repealed. I do not want to repeal that.

600
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960
I don't believe that the and if you go

601
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,240
down to eight, it says that eight is the

602
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,990
it is the uh that would be on page

603
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,720
I guess it's page 30 of our or 29. It

604
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,559
says the principal principal structure

605
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,799
currently on the site in its current

606
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,960
location shall be the only main

607
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440
structure allowed. The accessory

608
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,480
buildings on the proposed uh property

609
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,559
shall be for accessory use to the main

610
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,720
business and shall not be converted to

611
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,600
allow for another use on the property. I

612
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,000
want that to stay in. I don't think we

613
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,310
should repeal that.

614
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720
And again, if the applicant was here to

615
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,159
kind of walk us through what their

616
00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:08,159
intent was, but because of the way that

617
00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:10,240
their letter reads, it states that they

618
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,480
have no plans to really do anything to

619
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,240
that property.

620
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,159
Um, I don't think that the garage should

621
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:18,880
be used for the church services or it's

622
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200
close to the back of the people's

623
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,000
backyards. Um, and we don't know what

624
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,320
kind of services they're going to hold

625
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,279
in the in the property.

626
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,840
So, I'll let everybody else speak before

627
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,720
I make a motion, but that's my two

628
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,120
cents. Thanks, Mayor.

629
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,039
>> Councilwoman Bills.

630
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,440
>> Uh, Randy, I have a question. Um, what's

631
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,840
the intent behind only allowing one

632
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,440
primary structure and I understand we

633
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,640
have some exceptions throughout the

634
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,000
city. So, if you could just kind of give

635
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,520
me an overview.

636
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,200
>> Um, well, then when this was done in

637
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,399
2008, I think that there was concern it

638
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:58,000
was reszoned so that uh they I think it

639
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240
was a

640
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,559
elderly care or dementia care facility

641
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,799
or or it was senior solutions is what

642
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:06,159
they resent it for. And there was

643
00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:08,960
concern that there'd be additional

644
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000
activities in the in the the detached

645
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480
garage. And so when we took it through

646
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,760
in 2008, it was that was added so that

647
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,520
only the house could be used and and the

648
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,880
applicants at the time had no problem

649
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,799
with that. So it wasn't really

650
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,520
questioned. Um it wasn't it wasn't an

651
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,799
issue.

652
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,120
>> Okay. And so

653
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440
I think that solved a problem or a

654
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240
question mark back in 2008.

655
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Um, and it's still a question mark now.

656
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,919
>> So is this something that's allowed

657
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:41,520
widely throughout the city or is this

658
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,720
would this be an exception?

659
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,279
>> Well, there is I mean there's

660
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:47,279
innumerable number of commercial

661
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:48,640
properties in the city that have more

662
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,159
than one business on them. Anywhere in

663
00:30:50,159 --> 00:30:51,760
the mall, anywhere any of the strip

664
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,480
centers. Um, I know this is a different

665
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,350
>> something comparable to this. Um,

666
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,760
well, any I'm trying to think of a

667
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,149
specific

668
00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,399
I'm drawing a blank right now, but

669
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:10,240
>> sorry to put you on the

670
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,039
>> I mean like um

671
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,440
there are a few properties down on date

672
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,799
Xia West. I'm trying to think

673
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,679
>> and Patterson that have church

674
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:24,640
>> that have Yeah. more than one business

675
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,120
operating or or multiple buildings for a

676
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,760
church um

677
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,679
that operate, you know, out of more than

678
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:34,480
one facility. And I also saw in the um

679
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440
planning commission meeting um that

680
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,600
there were there was a discussion around

681
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,080
kind of ingress and egress and that kind

682
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,039
of situ does you said I think that you

683
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,519
had to run that by fire marshall or

684
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,200
>> when the fire marshall is going to be

685
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200
more uh when they go through the

686
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,360
building if if they're renovating this

687
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,200
building this detached garage into a now

688
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,640
building that's going to have people in

689
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,440
it mass several people they're going to

690
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,519
have to go through the fire uh get

691
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,200
approval from the fire marshal as part

692
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,279
of their building permit approval.

693
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,360
>> And also um but was there any concern

694
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080
about like emergency vehicles in and out

695
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,559
since it is kind of like a narrow not

696
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,760
two lanes limited space to

697
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,960
>> it's something we can certainly forward

698
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,799
on to the uh fire department to see what

699
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,120
their concerns are. there's not really a

700
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,519
major change to the site um in terms of

701
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,200
the way the ingress egress is being

702
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,159
proposed. I mean there it's staying as

703
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:36,159
is. So it's one of those things where

704
00:32:36,159 --> 00:32:37,440
fire department didn't say anything

705
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,640
about it

706
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
>> over the last several years. It's it's a

707
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,480
more intense use though. So I I get

708
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:42,720
that.

709
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,840
>> Well, yeah. Yeah. If they're going to

710
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,760
have assemblies of people there, it's

711
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,679
different than customers coming I feel

712
00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:50,559
like in and out individually. Um,

713
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,440
another question was about um ADA

714
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,600
compliance because if they're going to

715
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,919
be holding services in the church and I

716
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:01,600
know there's I mean are they prepared to

717
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,120
comply

718
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,799
>> the the existing office house it was

719
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,559
when it was converted in 2008 they had

720
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:09,840
to go through a whole bunch of ADA stuff

721
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760
to make the restrooms and indoor

722
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000
facilities ADA compliant. And there's an

723
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
ADA um parking space out there by the uh

724
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840
existing house. they'll have to do as

725
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,760
part of that building permit, they'll

726
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,159
have to make sure anything that's in

727
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:28,559
that garage would be ADA compliant. Um,

728
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,519
they'll be obligated to follow that.

729
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,440
That's more of a function of the county

730
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,960
than the city. We we tell how many

731
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120
parking spaces you might need, but

732
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,919
>> bathroom sizes, handles, heights, and

733
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:41,279
everything like that is really more of a

734
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:42,880
building department function.

735
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240
>> Yeah. Um I also uh on a side note would

736
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,799
like to I had some questions I also

737
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,159
wanted to ask um from the applicants and

738
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:54,640
so kind of disappointed that we can't do

739
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,480
that. Um I was even considering possibly

740
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,240
not moving this forward maybe

741
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,159
tableabling it. Is that possible? So

742
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:06,480
that we can allow them to come in and

743
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,760
maybe have some of our questions

744
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,639
answered.

745
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,760
>> I've been listening to this and that was going to be my statement. I'm

746
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000
not comfortable moving forward right now

747
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,280
without an applicant here because

748
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,839
there's too many unanswered questions

749
00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:21,599
and um I would uh I would entertain a

750
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,599
motion to table it until we can get the

751
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:27,349
applicant here.

752
00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:32,790
» Yeah, perfectly logical.

753
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,919
» You're asking whether you can do that.

754
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:37,750
The answer is yes.

755
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,280
So, should I

756
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,520
>> should I make a motion to table?

757
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,800
>> Um,

758
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,159
>> I guess it's been done.

759
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:44,639
>> Okay.

760
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,240
>> I have a motion and a second to table

761
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,000
this until we can have an applicant

762
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,560
present. All those in favor signify by

763
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,760
saying I

764
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,800
>> opposed.

765
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:59,190
>> I

766
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,280
» Okay, Randy, if you could contact them

767
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
and work work out a time that they can

768
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,480
be here. Uh, I understand family issues

769
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
and things like that, but you know, they

770
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,760
should have someone else to be able to

771
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,430
step up.

772
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,599
Ordinances, resolutions, and PUDs.

773
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:20,640
Ordinance 26-9.

774
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,520
an ordinance to levy

775
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,040
assessments for the improvement of

776
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,119
certain streets in the city of Beaver

777
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,599
Creek by maintaining currently erected

778
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,839
poles and providing electricity for

779
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:33,920
lighting same certain streets and

780
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,760
declaring an emergency upon second

781
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,440
reading.

782
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,119
>> This is a second reading. Anything else

783
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:47,670
from staff

784
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:55,510
council?

785
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,000
» Oh, your honor. I'd uh make the motion

786
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000
to approve ordinance uh 2619 as an

787
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,240
emergency roll call vote.

788
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,240
>> Second.

789
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,640
I have a motion and a second to approve

790
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,119
uh ordinance 26-9

791
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,079
as an emergency. Uh I have a roll call,

792
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:14,880
please.

793
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,000
>> Council member Kern,

794
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,720
>> yes.

795
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:17,920
>> Council member Lit,

796
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,320
>> yes.

797
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,599
>> Council member Veos,

798
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:20,160
>> yes.

799
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,280
>> Vice Mayor Upton,

800
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,000
>> yes.

801
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,280
>> Council member Bills,

802
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,079
>> yes.

803
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:25,200
>> Council member Derer,

804
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,440
>> yes.

805
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,560
>> And Mayor Adams,

806
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,440
>> yes.

807
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,640
>> Resolution 26-38.

808
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480
authorizing the police department to

809
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,720
accept the Ohio Attorney General's drug

810
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,280
use prevention DARE grants program

811
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,720
funding.

812
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:45,359
>> Chief,

813
00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:46,880
>> good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of

814
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,119
council. So, [clears throat] the

815
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,640
department applied for the annual drug

816
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440
use prevention grant to be used towards

817
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,320
the DARE officer salary for conducting

818
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,480
the drug abuse resistance education

819
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,520
program in the schools. The Ohio

820
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Attorney General's office reported there

821
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560
was 1.8 million available for all the

822
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680
drug use prevention applicants and

823
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,880
requests totaled 2.93 million for the

824
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,119
year. On August 4th, we received

825
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,280
notification that we were awarded

826
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,510
$23,76.73

827
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,760
for the 2627 academic school year.

828
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680
staff recommends council approval for

829
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,240
the police department to accept the drug

830
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:35,589
use prevention grant.

831
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:37,920
» I'd just like to say I appreciate you

832
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,720
presenting this chief. Uh back when I

833
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,839
used to teach DARE, my chief and sheriff

834
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:46,326
made me go over and do it myself

835
00:37:46,326 --> 00:37:47,119
[laughter]

836
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:47,280
and

837
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,079
>> I hate I hated it.

838
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,400
>> But I I I really appreciate I know this

839
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,119
grant does a lot of good and

840
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,560
I'm 100% behind it.

841
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
>> Chief, my son recently went through the

842
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920
program. Uh, hats off to Officer Pley

843
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,560
for an outstanding job and I'm very

844
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,720
grateful for this this grant and

845
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:09,920
opportunity. Thank you.

846
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,510
>> Thank you.

847
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,240
Yeah, I know we've uh had DARE program

848
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,599
for a long time and I know there's

849
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,280
several adults out there right now that

850
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,640
had Sergeant Hmel

851
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,720
>> and they still remember that his DARE

852
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,470
officer

853
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,000
» there's no further comment. I would move

854
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
for approval of resolution 2638.

855
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,359
>> Second.

856
00:38:35,359 --> 00:38:36,960
>> I have a motion and a second to approve

857
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,599
resolution 26-38. All those in favor

858
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:44,000
signify by saying I. I. I. opposed.

859
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,400
Nice to be able to get that.

860
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,390
Resolution 26-40.

861
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,040
» Resolution 26-40. A resolution

862
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440
authorizing the city manager to enter

863
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,040
into an agreement with the Ohio

864
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,599
Emergency Management Agency for state

865
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,079
funding assistance due to the impacts of

866
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,160
the disaster declaration from the

867
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,760
January 2026 winter storm event.

868
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,440
>> Yes. Uh good evening, mayor, members of

869
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,359
city council. As you might remember, the

870
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,440
Dayton region experienced a record

871
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,800
setting snowfall event in late January

872
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,520
2026. Uh according to the National

873
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,240
Weather Service, the uh January 24th

874
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,200
through 26 storm, uh the city received

875
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,200
uh over 14 inches of snowfall during

876
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,160
that that snow event. Uh following the

877
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,240
event, the uh governor authorized the uh

878
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,720
state disaster relief program to accept

879
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,400
applications for reimbursement from

880
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
local jurisdictions. Uh when that became

881
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960
available, the uh city we gathered all

882
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,240
of our costs from the snow event

883
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,480
together and submitted those. Uh they

884
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,480
have since approved our uh our cost

885
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,630
submitt of $149,473.

886
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Uh of that amount, a total of 75% is

887
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,880
reimburseable back to the city, which

888
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,589
equates to $112,15.17.

889
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,520
Uh the approval of this resolution will

890
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,200
allow for us to formally submit the

891
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,040
application and submit and start the uh

892
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,599
reimbursement process to the city.

893
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:08,960
With that, be happy to answer any

894
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,760
questions.

895
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,359
>> Any questions?

896
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:15,520
>> I just want to say nice job keeping all

897
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,720
of the data so that we were able to

898
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,920
submit the reimbursement grant and uh

899
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,839
that'll buy a little bit of salt.

900
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:25,839
>> Absolutely.

901
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:27,440
>> Well, not as much as it would last year.

902
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,990
>> That's true.

903
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560
and thank you for uh your team being

904
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,560
able to keep up with that large

905
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,040
snowfall. I think we had a really good

906
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,800
success here in Beaver Creek but with

907
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,440
that. So,

908
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,960
>> right, it was a tremendous team effort.

909
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,839
The guys in the garage [clears throat]

910
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:46,240
are awesome at these kind of events.

911
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,720
>> Yeah, thank you.

912
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,599
>> I'll move to approve resolution 26-40.

913
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:52,400
Second.

914
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,480
>> I have a motion and a second to approve

915
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,119
resolution 26-40. All those in favor

916
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:58,480
signify by saying I.

917
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,599
>> I. opposed

918
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:03,839
liquor license.

919
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:05,599
Chief, you're back.

920
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,680
>> Thank you. All right. The Ohio

921
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,280
Department of Commerce, Division of

922
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,359
Liquor Control, sent notification of a

923
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,920
request for a new liquor permit for Ohio

924
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:20,319
CVS stores LLC, CVS Pharmacy, store 3458

925
00:41:20,319 --> 00:41:23,599
at 1331 North Fairfield Road.

926
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,520
There were no required record checks on

927
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,440
this request and staff does not have any

928
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,400
objections or concerns with this permit.

929
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,160
Staff is recommending this application

930
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,990
request move forward without comment.

931
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,520
» Motion motion to motion to accept

932
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,680
without comment.

933
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,240
>> Second.

934
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,000
>> I have a motion and a second to accept

935
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,440
without comment. All those in favor

936
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,640
signify by saying I.

937
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,359
>> I.

938
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:51,119
>> Opposed.

939
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,599
And that brings us to citizen comments.

940
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:54,720
If you'd like to come and address

941
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,520
council on any issue, please come to the

942
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,359
podium, state your name and address, and

943
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:00,960
you'll have three minutes. It can be

944
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,640
donated up to six more minutes from

945
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:22,790
other people in the audience.

946
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,640
Hello, I'm Summer Shaw. I'd like to

947
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,800
donate my time to Kelly Campbell,

948
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,160
please.

949
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,280
>> What's your address?

950
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,240
>> 4229 Ridgcliffe Drive, Beaver Creek,

951
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,270
Ohio, 45 440.

952
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200
» Hi, my name is Laura Keller. I live at

953
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,240
3140 Shaker Town Road and I would like

954
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,400
to donate my three minutes to Kelly Camp

955
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:50,790
Falls.

956
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160
Hi, I'm Kelly Campbell, 4229 Ridge Cliff

957
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,520
Drive. I'm the one that they're speaking

958
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,680
about. Um, good evening. I'll be honest,

959
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,640
I am a little exhausted standing up here

960
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,880
tonight. Um, and I think a lot of the

961
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,079
people who have been coming to these

962
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,319
meetings are exhausted, too. You guys

963
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:11,200
also might be. We've spent months trying

964
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,359
to explain why we oppose this project

965
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,040
and I'm not sure that the city

966
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,599
understands what we're actually saying.

967
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,599
After the last meeting, the message I

968
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,440
took away was at this point our efforts

969
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,599
are essentially feudal. And I think

970
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:25,520
that's a pretty remarkable message to

971
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,119
hear from the people that we are coming

972
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:30,079
to speak to. If the public process is

973
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:31,359
supposed to give residents an

974
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:33,920
opportunity to influence decisions,

975
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,280
telling them that their efforts are

976
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000
futile is a pretty discouraging way to

977
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
conduct the process.

978
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,760
I've also been thinking a lot about a

979
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,839
conversation I had with C council member

980
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:45,599
Bills at a recent meeting we were both

981
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,119
at. She pulled me aside and said

982
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,119
somewhat sternly, "Kelly, come here. I

983
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:50,960
want to talk to you." And I asked her,

984
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,200
maybe not that harshly, um I asked her,

985
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
"Hey, why are you giving me the stink

986
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
eye? Is what's that for?" She admitted

987
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,280
she was, but then she asked me

988
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,680
essentially, "What do these people even

989
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,200
want?"

990
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,880
And I thought about I thought the answer

991
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,720
was pretty simple. In fact, I was a

992
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,000
little surprised that it even still

993
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,839
needs to be asked. They've been very

994
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:12,240
clear what they want. They want the city

995
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,200
to stop the project. In short of that, I

996
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,480
think the biggest problem is that the

997
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,240
city and the residents are talking past

998
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,560
each other. The city says, "We've

999
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,160
reduced the width of the shared use

1000
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,079
paths. We've scaled back parts of the

1001
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:26,400
project. We talked to property owners

1002
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,240
and we've offered to replace or

1003
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,079
compensate even for for some of the

1004
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:32,640
trees." And I understand that those are

1005
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
changes, but the residents aren't

1006
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,319
saying, "Hey, we really like the

1007
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:37,920
project, but could you make the path a

1008
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,720
few feet narrower?" They're saying, "We

1009
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,640
don't believe this project at this scale

1010
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,119
is necessary." And those are two very

1011
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,119
different conversations.

1012
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:48,720
I don't want to minimize the changes

1013
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,520
that the city's made. The city has

1014
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680
reduced impacts. They've narrowed paths.

1015
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,359
They've tried to work with individual

1016
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:56,800
property owners, and those things

1017
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,280
matter. I understand why the city would

1018
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,960
view those as meaningful efforts to

1019
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,359
respond to public concerns, but those

1020
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,119
concessions don't answer the central

1021
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,520
question. They assume that the project

1022
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,599
is going forward and they ask uh

1023
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:10,880
residents how to make it less

1024
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,200
objectionable. The residents are asking

1025
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,440
a different question. Why are we doing

1026
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,119
this project at all? And why does this

1027
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:19,839
need to be done so large? When residents

1028
00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:22,000
get three minutes to speak and then they

1029
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,839
have to wait two weeks to come back and

1030
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:27,280
speak again, that really isn't dialogue.

1031
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,680
They make their case, council listens,

1032
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,280
maybe there's a brief response and then

1033
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,800
everybody goes home and then we rinse

1034
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640
and repeat.

1035
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,400
So when the response becomes, what more

1036
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,920
do these people want? I think the answer

1037
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,119
is they want to know that their

1038
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,520
fundamental objection is actually being

1039
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,160
considered. And I still haven't heard a

1040
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,599
compelling explanation for why

1041
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:47,440
Shakertown needs to become a three-lane

1042
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,599
roadway. We keep hearing about grant

1043
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,040
funding, but I haven't heard enough

1044
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,760
about the underlying need. What current

1045
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000
traffic problem are we solving? What

1046
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,480
projected demand requires three lanes

1047
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,240
and what's changed since the original

1048
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,880
studies that supported the funding? Have

1049
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,319
we looked at whether the assumptions

1050
00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:06,319
behind those studies still reflect the

1051
00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:08,880
re reality of Beaver Creek today? I

1052
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,880
understand that grant money is available

1053
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
but or or been already made available,

1054
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,200
but we can get someone else to pay for

1055
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,040
it isn't the same thing as we need to

1056
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,760
build it. A grant explains why the city

1057
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,359
can build the project. It doesn't

1058
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:23,839
explain why the city needs to build it.

1059
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:25,599
And I think we should be asking a bigger

1060
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:27,920
fiscal question. What does the road cost

1061
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Beaver Creek over its entire useful

1062
00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:32,560
life? If we build substantially more

1063
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,240
pavement and infrastructure than we

1064
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:35,839
actually need today, we're not

1065
00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:38,640
eliminating that cost. We're creating a

1066
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,400
larger maintenance obligation for the

1067
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,720
future. 30 years from now, someone is

1068
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,720
going to have to repave this road. And

1069
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,720
at that point, it won't matter whether

1070
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:48,400
the original construction was heavily

1071
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,880
subsidized by ODOT. Beaver Creek

1072
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,720
taxpayers will be responsible for

1073
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,800
maintaining what we build. And a grant

1074
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,200
that that can make the upfront cost look

1075
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,599
inexpensive now

1076
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,359
won't make the infrastructure

1077
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,440
inexpensive uh inexpensive over its

1078
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,119
lifetime. If we're building

1079
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,200
substantially more roadway than we need,

1080
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,040
we're potentially trading a short-term

1081
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,800
financial benefit for a long-term

1082
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,119
maintenance obligation. So, I would ask

1083
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:14,560
council to step back from the question

1084
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,480
of how much money can we save by using

1085
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,400
this grant and ask the more important

1086
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,079
question. Does this project at this

1087
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,079
scale represent the infrastructure that

1088
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:23,920
Beaver Creek and that Shaker Town

1089
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,240
actually needs?

1090
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,920
There's another cost that doesn't show

1091
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,000
up neatly on the project spreadsheet.

1092
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,560
The cost to the people who live along

1093
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,720
this road. And I'm sorry if I'm boring

1094
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,150
you.

1095
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,640
The the project the property is

1096
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,960
affected. Their trees are affected.

1097
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Their daily lives are affected. Their

1098
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,240
peace and quiet is affected. those

1099
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,000
aren't abstract costs to the people who

1100
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,680
have been coming here and speaking about

1101
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,000
them. And I also have to say something

1102
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,599
about the tone of this process because

1103
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:58,000
at this point some of us are feeling not

1104
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,720
simply unheard but treated with disdain.

1105
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:02,400
I don't say that lightly and I don't

1106
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,839
mean that every council member has

1107
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:05,599
treated residents this way. But when

1108
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,520
residents are repeatedly interrupted,

1109
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,720
when they're told their efforts are

1110
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,520
feutal, when the response of months of

1111
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,280
public opposition is essentially, what

1112
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,280
do more do these people want? It's

1113
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,119
difficult not to come away feeling that

1114
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,880
our participation is being viewed as

1115
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,640
annoyance rather than as a legitimate

1116
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,960
part of the public process. And that's

1117
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,800
particularly frustrating because the

1118
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,400
people standing at this microphone

1119
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,640
aren't asking for special treatment.

1120
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,240
They're asking to be taken seriously

1121
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,920
when they raise questions about a major

1122
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,240
expenditure of public resources and a

1123
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:35,760
project that will permanently change

1124
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,440
their neighborhood. Finally, I would ask

1125
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,599
the city to recognize something that

1126
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,599
residents opposing this project aren't

1127
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,000
confused about what the city has

1128
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,440
changed. They understand the

1129
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,359
concessions. They just don't believe

1130
00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:51,119
that those concessions solve the

1131
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,520
fundamental problem. They don't want a

1132
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,520
slightly smaller version of a product

1133
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,800
project that they don't believe is

1134
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
necessary. And I don't think that a

1135
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,200
appropriate response to that is what

1136
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,040
more do you want? I think the

1137
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,960
appropriate response is what are they

1138
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,599
telling us that we haven't adequately

1139
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,760
answered because I don't think that

1140
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,520
residents are failing to understand the

1141
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000
city's position. I think the city may be

1142
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,520
failing to understand the resident's

1143
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,440
position. There's a difference between

1144
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,119
saying, "We heard you. We made some

1145
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,200
changes and being able to explain in

1146
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,800
concrete terms why this particular

1147
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,359
project is necessary beyond just the

1148
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:28,000
fact that funding is available for it.

1149
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,760
If the road needs to be repaid, let's

1150
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,599
talk about the condition of the road. If

1151
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,040
there's safety problems, let's talk

1152
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,119
about safety problems. If the current

1153
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,359
traffic volumes require three lanes,

1154
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:38,960
let's talk about current traffic data

1155
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,720
that demonstrates that need. And if

1156
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:41,839
there's future demands that we're

1157
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:43,680
playing uh planning for, let's talk

1158
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,079
about those projections.

1159
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:47,680
We have a grant that will pay for this

1160
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,920
project is a funding explanation. It's

1161
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,720
not a needs assessment. And honestly, I

1162
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:53,760
think we need a different kind of

1163
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,760
conversation at this point. These

1164
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,359
council meetings don't seem to be

1165
00:49:57,359 --> 00:49:59,760
serving anybody particularly well.

1166
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,520
Residents come here and get a few

1167
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,200
minutes to speak. Council responds

1168
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,440
briefly if at all. And then we all come

1169
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,200
back two weeks later to do it again. And

1170
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,200
I don't think anybody walks away feeling

1171
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,680
particularly satisfied. Probably not you

1172
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,240
guys either. So I'd like to make a

1173
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:15,760
simple request. Let's sit down and

1174
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,319
actually talk to each other. An actual

1175
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:20,160
conversation where residents can explain

1176
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,319
their concern and council can explain

1177
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:24,160
the city's reasoning and we can ask

1178
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,920
questions and response respond to the

1179
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,160
answers in real time. not asking for a

1180
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,359
guarantee that we'll get the outcome

1181
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:30,880
that we want, but I'm asking for an

1182
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440
opportunity to understand each other and

1183
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,040
to have the kind of dialogue that should

1184
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,960
have happened in the first place. If

1185
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,559
there's questions that the residents are

1186
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:40,079
raising that haven't been adequately

1187
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,680
answered, maybe we can address those,

1188
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,200
too. Because ultimately, I think that's

1189
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,720
what the public process is supposed to

1190
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,960
be about, not just giving people a

1191
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,559
microphone, but actually listening what

1192
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,200
they have to say. Thank you.

1193
00:50:51,200 --> 00:51:03,750
>> Thank you very much.

1194
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Hi, my name is Kimberly Jackson. I live

1195
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,119
at 427 Green Mount in Oakwood.

1196
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:10,559
I come at it from a little different

1197
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:12,559
point of view because I'm not a

1198
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,720
resident, but I was always taught that

1199
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,800
elected officials should as best they

1200
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,200
can and within reason govern their area

1201
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,880
while respecting the wishes of the

1202
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,520
constituents who elected them. I do not

1203
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,359
live in Beaver Creek, so I didn't elect

1204
00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:27,440
to. But I'm sitting amongst people who

1205
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,760
did elect to, and they are hurting. They

1206
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,520
live in a beautiful area of Beaver Creek

1207
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,000
lined with mature trees and green grass.

1208
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,839
I drive this stretch of road nearly

1209
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:37,599
every day, and it's one of my favorite

1210
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,400
parts. It's very tranquil. It's easy to

1211
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,880
navigate. Once a week, I walk a dog that

1212
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,720
lives on this stretch of Shaker Town.

1213
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,559
So, although I didn't elect you, I'm

1214
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,520
very invested in the area. As long as

1215
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,440
I've followed this saga, I've yet to

1216
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,680
hear any citizens speak in favor of the

1217
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,760
road widening a or the sidewalk

1218
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,160
installation project. What I have heard

1219
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,800
is lots of people opposed to it. They've

1220
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,960
gathered facts, respectfully come to

1221
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,559
meeting after meeting to state their

1222
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,720
case, and they continue to be met with

1223
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:08,720
opposition from council to reconsider

1224
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:11,040
the project. At the last meeting, one

1225
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,880
member somewhat sarcastically said

1226
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,640
something like, "I think we all know the

1227
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,760
process by now." I found that comment

1228
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,520
incredibly disrespectful to those who

1229
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,960
are doing their best to help you

1230
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,680
understand their concerns. Why do you

1231
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,359
insist on spending money on a project

1232
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:27,920
that doesn't fix an identified problem?

1233
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,839
Yeah, it's great when the state pays for

1234
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:31,839
a portion of a project, but you're still

1235
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:33,359
spending a million dollars of your own

1236
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:35,040
money to solve a problem that doesn't

1237
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,599
even exist. I encourage you to spend

1238
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,440
some time on this stretch of road. Park

1239
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,119
on one of the side streets. Watch the

1240
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,040
traffic patterns. Look at how much

1241
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,800
you're taking from citizens who trusted

1242
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040
you to keep their best interest in mind.

1243
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,200
Once you see the effects of a pro of a

1244
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,839
proposed project that no one wants, I

1245
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:53,359
pray you change your collective minds

1246
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:55,920
and cancel this project. Thank you.

1247
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,396
>> Thank you.

1248
00:52:59,406 --> 00:53:08,309
[applause]

1249
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:12,400
» Bill Keller, 3140 Shaker Town Road.

1250
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,240
I'm asking you to look at Shaker Town

1251
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:15,920
Road based on the traffic and safety

1252
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,160
problems that actually exist today, not

1253
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,839
an assumption about what might happen

1254
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:22,079
years from now. Before the city takes

1255
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,160
people's property and spends millions of

1256
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
dollars, I believe residents deserve

1257
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,319
clear evidence that this project is

1258
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:29,920
necessary.

1259
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,839
Where is the documented traffic problem

1260
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,599
on the particular section of Shakertown

1261
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:35,520
Road that requires widening it from two

1262
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,920
lanes to three? Where is the congestion

1263
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,319
that requires a sitter turn line? or is

1264
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:42,160
the crash history demonstrating that

1265
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,720
this turn lane even is necessary? I'm

1266
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,640
not asking the city to ignore legitimate

1267
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,119
safety or maintenance problems. If there

1268
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:51,040
are specific drainage problems, fix the

1269
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,400
drainage. If there are specific

1270
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,160
dangerous locations, fix those

1271
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,480
locations. If the pavement needs repair, the pavement. But that is very

1272
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,000
different from reconstructioning the

1273
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,000
entire corridor with curbs, gutters,

1274
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,079
storm sewers, and a center turn lane

1275
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:06,000
when the existing traffic does not

1276
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,720
justify that scale of project. And I

1277
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,160
want to be very clear about the center

1278
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,160
turning. I don't believe residents

1279
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,920
should lose property and have their

1280
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,359
neighborhood changed for a lane that

1281
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:18,319
hasn't been demonstrated to be

1282
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:22,240
necessarily demonstrated to be

1283
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,240
necessary by current traffic conditions.

1284
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:26,240
If the justification is future

1285
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,680
development, then show us the

1286
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,680
development. Show us the traffic

1287
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,559
projection. Show us the assumptions and

1288
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,480
show us why residents today should bear

1289
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,880
the permanent impacts.

1290
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,480
The same applies to curbs and gutters.

1291
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,000
If there's an actual drains problem,

1292
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,599
demonstrate it and address it. But

1293
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:43,040
please don't tell residents that an

1294
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,440
expensive urban style reconstruction is

1295
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,440
necessary simply because it's part of

1296
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,319
preferred design. We are asking for

1297
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:52,640
smaller, more appropriate solutions.

1298
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,800
Maintain the existing roadway. Address

1299
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,040
documented drainage or safety issues

1300
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,680
where they actually occur. Do not add a

1301
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,160
center lane unless the traffic and crash

1302
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,400
data demonstrate that it's needed. and

1303
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,079
do not install curbs and gutters simply

1304
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:07,520
because they included in the current

1305
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,760
design. Please don't build a road for

1306
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,280
traffic we don't have. Spend the

1307
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,800
taxpayers money on problems that

1308
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,119
actually exist. And before this project

1309
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,040
moves forward, I respectfully ask

1310
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,200
councelor to require the city to

1311
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,119
publicly provide the traffic counts,

1312
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,200
crash data, traffic projections, cost

1313
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,920
benefit analysis and analyses and

1314
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,319
alternative analysis supporting every

1315
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:31,200
major component of this project. If the

1316
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,839
city removes the sitter turnling, curbs,

1317
00:55:33,839 --> 00:55:35,599
gutters, and unnecessary widening, what

1318
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,000
documented existing problem would remain

1319
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,640
unsolved? And what evidence proves that

1320
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,079
problem requires a larger project?

1321
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:45,520
>> That's all I have.

1322
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:57,829
>> Thank you.

1323
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:00,880
Thank God for God.

1324
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,160
Mr. Mayor, Council Member Clary Hill,

1325
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,119
658 Waverly Drive,

1326
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:09,760
I'm against this project. I guess you're

1327
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,440
getting tired of looking at me, but I'll

1328
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,839
be here long till we decided on

1329
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:17,520
something.

1330
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,079
But I think we should cancel this.

1331
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,640
All we're doing is going to make it more

1332
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,359
dangerous. I've got to go across another

1333
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:33,349
lane to go one way or the other.

1334
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:36,400
And I think Beaver Creek's beautiful

1335
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,309
right now.

1336
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:44,240
And it seemed to me like it buckers want

1337
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,839
to steal Beaver Creek and you want to

1338
00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:50,400
steal my land

1339
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,079
and I'm against it.

1340
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:57,920
You looking good tonight, hun.

1341
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,280
But I would you take in consideration to

1342
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,079
disregard this

1343
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:08,880
strip of Checker Town Road.

1344
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,000
I think you're taking my life

1345
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:19,750
and putting it in danger.

1346
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,240
You just don't say nothing to me. It's

1347
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,839
your comment time.

1348
00:57:23,839 --> 00:57:24,240
>> Huh?

1349
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,839
>> This is your time to comment. It's not

1350
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:26,960
our time to go back and forth.

1351
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520
>> I'd like to hear a little comment. Shut

1352
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,720
my mouth and sit down or something.

1353
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,559
>> I'm not asking you to do that. Ask you

1354
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:35,599
to.

1355
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,680
>> But I would I would appreciate the

1356
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,799
council member, the new mayor that you

1357
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:43,920
table this job. We don't need it. All

1358
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,760
we're doing is creating and going to

1359
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,359
make

1360
00:57:47,359 --> 00:57:49,680
they'll change the name if they put that

1361
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,839
through from Bieber Creek to concrete

1362
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,240
because they want to put two sidewalks,

1363
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,599
one on each side of the road

1364
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:02,799
and we don't need them. I've lived there

1365
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:06,000
58 years and I see one person maybe once

1366
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,760
every month or two walk up Checker Town

1367
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,670
Road. [clears throat]

1368
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,240
But I wish you would take consideration

1369
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,040
and cancel this project.

1370
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:35,510
I think it's a waste of money.

1371
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,280
Bob Trout, 2187 Basset Court. And I've

1372
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,880
been up here many times to talk about

1373
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,359
this thing, but I'm going to point out a

1374
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:45,680
couple of different things. Very

1375
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,799
disappointed with the way you're

1376
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:50,000
handling the city residents money.

1377
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,119
There's a lack of accountability.

1378
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,040
And I'm going to talk to some of the

1379
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,480
residents that we have here and I'm

1380
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,319
going to recommend that we change the charter to where all levies will go

1381
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:05,200
back to a finite period of time defined

1382
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,680
rather than a open-end perpetual levy.

1383
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,040
That way we're going to take control

1384
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,559
back from that. I'm also going to urge

1385
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,720
and I know I've talked to a lot of folks

1386
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,079
and a lot of folks have talked to me

1387
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:20,960
that they are not in favor of the s the

1388
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,680
income tax primarily because of what you

1389
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,920
folks are doing think why are we going

1390
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,599
to give them more money to do more stuff

1391
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,000
that we don't want so you need to take

1392
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,319
heed of that and the other thing I'm

1393
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:33,520
going to be talking with some of these

1394
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,280
folks over here there's a 1-800 number

1395
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,760
that is available and we can notify the

1396
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,240
federal government because they can come

1397
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,119
and do an investigation on the state

1398
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,760
which gets the federal money and the

1399
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,359
state will come back and look at you

1400
00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:52,960
folks and make sure that you are uh

1401
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,880
looking at everything and listening to

1402
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,760
the residents. You folks have gone

1403
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,760
beyond acceptable to this city and I'm

1404
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,000
calling you on it as is everybody else

1405
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,839
that's here and there's a lot of other

1406
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:08,000
folks that are not here that that are

1407
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,079
not happy with you. There's a lot of

1408
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,160
folks that see this video that goes up

1409
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,200
there and they they said, "We saw you

1410
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,640
talking. We saw everybody up there

1411
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,200
talking. It's getting people's attention

1412
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,040
and it's not getting yours. So, what is

1413
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,079
wrong with you folks?" Mr. Mayor, you're

1414
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:26,640
sitting in the big chair over there. You

1415
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,760
need to let the folks that go out there

1416
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,280
and look at the projects and everything

1417
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,200
else like that or expect projects to go

1418
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,480
in there and make darn sure that they

1419
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880
cover everything honestly and accurately

1420
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,280
and go back and talk to the residents in

1421
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,079
there. So, I've said my piece with you

1422
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,520
folks, but I thinking that it's going to

1423
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,760
get a little bit ugly. And oh, by the

1424
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:50,960
way, this is the first time all of you

1425
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,319
have been looking at me because usually

1426
01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:55,680
you're looking down and not. So that's a

1427
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,079
big improvement. Thank you very much.

1428
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:09,510
THANK YOU

1429
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,559
after after hearing Oh, wait. First, my

1430
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,000
name is Kathy Bower. 3497 Shaker Town

1431
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,160
Road. um on the the other side of

1432
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,440
Fairfield that's being affected.

1433
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,480
After hearing everybody, I start feeling

1434
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,319
a little bit silly about the things that

1435
01:01:28,319 --> 01:01:32,079
I wrote because I wrote more from a

1436
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:35,359
let's try to all get along

1437
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:36,799
kind of thing and I'm going to go ahead

1438
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:41,599
and read it. Um, but I do agree that if

1439
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:45,599
the project is not truly needed, which I

1440
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:49,280
don't feel it is, it shouldn't it should

1441
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,520
be able to be tabled. Um,

1442
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,559
I'm kind of a rule follower

1443
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,040
and as soon as I heard, well, we've

1444
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,359
already invested money, we've already

1445
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:04,319
got the, you know, everything in

1446
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:08,079
process, we can't go back. Then I just

1447
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,079
kind of accepted that uh maybe too

1448
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,040
easily. But I'm going to go ahead and

1449
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,839
read my speech.

1450
01:02:17,839 --> 01:02:20,480
It feels like everyone in this room is

1451
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,599
tired of stating their concerns

1452
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:25,680
and you all must be tired of hearing

1453
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,760
them.

1454
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,559
I hope you have really heard our

1455
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:33,119
complaints and are working on ways to

1456
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,720
compromise.

1457
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,799
In fact, I believe that you have to some

1458
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:40,000
degree. I'll be interested to hear your

1459
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,920
suggestions.

1460
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,839
All of us have bought our homes with

1461
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:47,599
high hopes of creating our homesteads

1462
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:50,000
and possibly raising our kids on this

1463
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,160
quiet street.

1464
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,640
And for many years, that's just what it

1465
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,799
has been.

1466
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:58,799
We all signed those papers when we

1467
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:01,599
bought our properties accepting the fact

1468
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:05,359
that there's easements and city can come

1469
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:09,280
in and take a certain amount

1470
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,920
uh of your property. Sometimes it's only

1471
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,039
temporary. We're going to dig here,

1472
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:24,630
cover it back up, and then go away. Um

1473
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,039
we understood

1474
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:32,000
Oh, I went off topic. Um, we understood

1475
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,440
that there may be a need for

1476
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,160
right-of-way easements, some of which

1477
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:41,039
would be just a temporary disruption.

1478
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,760
But this this feels like the city is

1479
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,440
overstepping.

1480
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Some of these houses have are already

1481
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,119
very very close to the road and now

1482
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:52,960
they're facing the fact that the road

1483
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,240
will be that much closer to their front

1484
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,760
doors.

1485
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,839
It's certainly understandable that this

1486
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:02,960
situation would offend the sensibilities

1487
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,520
of these families.

1488
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,440
My husband and I have lived on Shaker

1489
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,319
Town Road since 1982.

1490
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:13,359
We raised our daughters here and always

1491
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:16,319
reminded them of the dangers of the

1492
01:04:16,319 --> 01:04:19,440
road. More than once, we've had cars

1493
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,480
lose control and end up in our front

1494
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,119
yard.

1495
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,359
Now, imagine how we feel about having

1496
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:30,559
the road that much closer to our front

1497
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,240
steps.

1498
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,400
Not to mention the road sounds from the

1499
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,520
traffic that much closer,

1500
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,960
that much louder. Of course there will

1501
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,240
be push back.

1502
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,000
>> Do you have much more? I'm I don't want

1503
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,839
to interrupt but

1504
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:46,640
>> don't donate.

1505
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,440
>> Okay. Come to the

1506
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,359
>> Sorry.

1507
01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:54,640
97 Shaker Town Road. I donate my time.

1508
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,559
>> Thank you.

1509
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,359
>> Um

1510
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:05,589
>> Okay.

1511
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,280
My husband and I have lived on Shaker

1512
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,680
Town since 1982. We raised our daughters

1513
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,440
here and always reminded them of the

1514
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,920
dangers of the road. More than once,

1515
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,880
we've had cars lose control and end up

1516
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,000
in our front yard. Now, imagine how we

1517
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,760
feel about having the road that much

1518
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,160
closer to our front steps. Not to

1519
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,960
mention the road sounds from the traffic

1520
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,799
that much closer, that much louder. Of

1521
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:33,520
course there'll there will be push back

1522
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,200
but we signed those papers

1523
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,270
that we

1524
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,920
not that we had a choice.

1525
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,319
We are just requesting that you limit

1526
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:48,640
the amount. We understand that

1527
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,760
occasionally we may need to accept these

1528
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,240
changes, but I don't think that this

1529
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,720
plan took into consideration

1530
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,920
just how many beautiful mature trees

1531
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,200
would be destroyed, changing the face of

1532
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,520
our properties.

1533
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,839
Some of us have planted trees and hedges

1534
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:09,839
in order to better protect our children

1535
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:12,480
and ourselves.

1536
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,400
I know that you have already invested

1537
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,960
time and money in this program and that

1538
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,839
you can't just back out. I get that.

1539
01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:23,920
All I'm asking is that you adjust your

1540
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,599
plans back a bit. I would like I would

1541
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:30,400
also like before and after drawings of

1542
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,119
what this would look like. I would love

1543
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,280
to see you allowing

1544
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,319
roundt talks where we can sit and chat

1545
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:43,599
and brainstorm together.

1546
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:47,280
Giving people a more intimate setting,

1547
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,079
not like the meetings here where

1548
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,480
you all sit up there and listen and we

1549
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,160
all take our turn standing at the

1550
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,559
microphone. It creates an us and them

1551
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,000
atmosphere.

1552
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,440
You are not our enemy. In the long run,

1553
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,400
change will happen. It's inevitable.

1554
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,200
Some people will be pleased. Some people

1555
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,280
will be appeased.

1556
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,240
And some people will be unhappy.

1557
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,880
But at least people will know that they

1558
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,880
feel or feel that they are truly heard.

1559
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,680
They'll know that they tried. It would

1560
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,480
bring them some sense of control.

1561
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,119
This would go a long way to settling the

1562
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:34,480
minds and hearts of those affected.

1563
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,079
Thank you.

1564
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:46,470
>> Thank you.

1565
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,400
» I promise not to take more than three

1566
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:49,920
minutes.

1567
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,480
My name is Barbara Massie and I live at

1568
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,640
743 Timberwood Drive in Beaver Creek.

1569
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,400
um

1570
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,720
to leave my home. I take Greer to

1571
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,400
Fairfield.

1572
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,839
More than likely, I take Shaker I take

1573
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:11,280
Timberwood to Shaker Town and turn left

1574
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,440
or right there because there's less

1575
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,839
traffic.

1576
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:19,279
Fairfield. And I realize a lot of it is

1577
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,759
because of congestion and backup from

1578
01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:25,839
the ever ongoing construction on

1579
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:30,159
Fairfield, but there is more traffic on

1580
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:32,560
Fairfield. I never have a problem

1581
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,159
getting out on Shaker Town. To say we

1582
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:38,719
need to increase

1583
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:43,839
the size of Shaker Town, I don't see it.

1584
01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:48,309
to say we need sidewalks.

1585
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,560
I dare you to go out there and count the

1586
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,359
people walking on Shaker Town. You're

1587
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:54,960
going to be sitting there all day not

1588
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,279
seeing anyone.

1589
01:08:57,279 --> 01:08:59,359
They don't need sidewalks. They don't

1590
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,520
need sidewalks on both sides of the

1591
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,679
street for people who aren't going to

1592
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:07,120
walk. There's no businesses.

1593
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,679
Yeah, there's a church there

1594
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:12,480
operating on Sunday mornings, but there

1595
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:15,040
are not people walking.

1596
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,960
They don't need all of this extra stuff

1597
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,080
going on.

1598
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,960
Consider if you lived on Shaker Town or

1599
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,000
just off Shaker Town. How would you feel

1600
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,239
about all of this land being taken to

1601
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,319
increase the side of a road that

1602
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,319
doesn't have the traffic to support it

1603
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,640
and sidewalks with nobody to walk on

1604
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,319
them?

1605
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:48,480
They're losing their property

1606
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:51,679
because of something that I myself

1607
01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:54,719
cannot see

1608
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:58,080
being needed. Um

1609
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,960
I worked under a government agent for

1610
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,080
many years here. I understand the

1611
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,600
protocol

1612
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,800
and the

1613
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:14,080
right of dominant domain and stuff but

1614
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,719
you have to consider the lives that are

1615
01:10:16,719 --> 01:10:20,159
being affected at the same time and is

1616
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:23,840
it worth it? I personally do not feel it

1617
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,880
is and I'm hoping I'll be able to

1618
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,400
continue to go to Shaker Town and get

1619
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
out of my development. Thank you.

1620
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:42,229
>> Thank you.

1621
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:45,040
» Please come to the microphone if you

1622
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,790
don't mind.

1623
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Joe Volani, 710 Carlsbrook Drive, and

1624
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,600
I'm going to donate my time to Heather.

1625
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,830
Thank you.

1626
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:03,510
I'll let you

1627
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,239
» Heather Harvey, 3180, Shaker Town. It's

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01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:07,920
ironic that I opened up my last comments

1629
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,360
to you all with a line about your

1630
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,600
complete lack of respect for us. Because

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,760
as I'm sure you all remember, just the

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,600
before I spoke, the mayor asked me if I

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,280
received your letter and then proceeded

1634
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,520
to basically tell me, my neighbors, this

1635
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,360
city, and the media that none of this

1636
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,120
mattered. The message was loud and

1637
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,440
clear. Let me let me remind you that we

1638
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,199
are just as tired of coming here as you

1639
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,520
are of listening to us. We all have

1640
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,600
families, too. I could list a thousand

1641
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,280
things I'd rather be doing than standing

1642
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,280
here. But someone has to stick up for

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,960
what it's right. It's a shame it's none

1644
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,920
of you. Aren't several of you at risk of

1645
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,840
losing your seat next year? I heard

1646
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,840
there's an election coming up. Is that

1647
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,199
why none of you are brave enough to

1648
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,440
speak up? Trust me, doing the right

1649
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:48,880
thing will prove to this city that their

1650
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,880
vote should be for you and not somebody

1651
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,360
new. I would be ashamed to have my name

1652
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,120
associated with approving projects based

1653
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,000
on lies, outdated facts, and just going

1654
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,080
with the flow so as to not rock the

1655
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,400
boat. The only problem is that this boat

1656
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,640
is sinking. Word gets around and people

1657
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,719
are starting to ask more questions. When

1658
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:09,199
this room continues to fill up week

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01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:12,480
after week. Don't say I told you so.

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01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:13,840
What would you do if you were in our

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,840
shoes? I'll tell you something that's

1662
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,520
really bothered me. Since I stood right

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,520
there in this room in the PI meeting in

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01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,239
August of 2025, I stood in a room

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01:12:22,239 --> 01:12:25,040
surrounded by tons of i8 people. All but

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,520
one person was in opposition. Anybody

1667
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,000
want to take a stab who that person was?

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01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,840
She just so happens to be sitting up

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,000
there with you. You can imagine my

1670
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,760
surprise when a few weeks later I found

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,000
out she was elected to council. It's no

1672
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,360
wonder she was cheerleading this

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,000
project. Huh. Something else that didn't

1674
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,360
sit well with me was that there was a

1675
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,360
man from ODOT there who just argued with

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,440
us. He told us that our facts were

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01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:50,000
opinions. I guess quoting traffic counts

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,760
from ODOT's very own website and crash

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01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,840
data obtained from our chief of police.

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01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,320
Him right there. Those are just matters

1681
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,440
of opinions and not straight facts. Nah,

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01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,280
it's the cold, hard truth, and it's time

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01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,679
you guys admit it. Stop perpetuating

1684
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:07,679
these lies. This is only getting worse

1685
01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:09,199
as time goes on. You're making

1686
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:11,040
yourselves look even more ridiculous by

1687
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,120
sending us letters with more lies. We

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,800
all know this project won't be done in

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,800
12 months. So, for every day over a

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,280
year, are we allowed to bill you? Or how

1691
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,040
about the BS statement regarding needing

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01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,520
to quote support the growing city? Who

1693
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,360
proofread that letter? You do realize

1694
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,040
how stupid it sounds to claim this

1695
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,800
project is needed, right? Because

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,400
despite the fact that this population

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,719
has increased, traffic data doesn't

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01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:34,320
support that. Shaker Town has

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01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,960
maintained. Sounds like you all are the

1700
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,960
ones with the opinions. This project

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01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,440
isn't built on facts. It's driven by

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01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:43,840
opinions. This is a classic version of a

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01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,640
want and not a need. I'd like to

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,320
publicly acknowledge that one of you

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01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,840
made a point uh excuse me, to confront

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01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,440
one of us in a very uncomfortable

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01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,520
manner. Not only did you abuse your

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,600
quote position of power by humiliating

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,239
my friend, but you dropped my name and

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01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:02,640
called me a liar. Let's be real clear

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,560
here. Everything I've said here has been

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01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,320
factual. It's hilarious that you said

1713
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,760
you were offended we've been calling you

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,600
liars when you literally stood there and

1715
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,840
called me one. Are we in kindergarten?

1716
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,679
How about you come say those words to my

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01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:15,600
face and let's have a real conversation.

1718
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,880
How about all of you get your acts

1719
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,320
together and start behaving yourselves

1720
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,400
in public gatherings? Approaching

1721
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,040
someone in public doing what you did is

1722
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,880
not very becoming of a publicly

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,880
appointed official. This city deserves

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,199
better. Shame on you and shame on all of

1725
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,360
you. This is playing out exactly like

1726
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,679
you see on TV. The crooked politicians

1727
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:35,600
go around town paying people off,

1728
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,679
bullying them to give up and join their

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01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:40,159
side. I'm here to tell you, we are not

1730
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:42,480
giving up or giving in. You can continue

1731
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,640
going around insulting my character and

1732
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,960
my integrity all you want, but if you

1733
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,480
expect I won't be here on Monday nights

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01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,960
to give it right back, you're mistaken.

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,480
What's clear is you aren't listening.

1736
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,480
And your public humiliation event, you

1737
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:56,560
had the nerve to ask, quote, "What do

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,960
they want?" As a concerned nurse, I mean

1739
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,719
this with all due respect, are any of

1740
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,040
you deaf? Did you black out during these

1741
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,520
meetings? Have we not been perfectly

1742
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,880
clear? Facts are not lies or opinions.

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,440
This stupid project was created to fix

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01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:13,120
two problems that we have time and time

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,360
again proven do not exist. So call it

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01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,400
what you want. A lie, an oversight, a

1747
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,840
mistake, fraud, irresponsible. It isn't

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01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,760
too late to stop this project. Quit

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01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,679
gaslighting us with the penalty you will

1750
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:27,760
face and accept responsibility for what

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,000
you've done. Start pursuing projects

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,480
that this city actually needs instead of

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01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:36,000
what you want. Everyone at home need

1754
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,760
listening needs to hear this. These

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01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,840
people sitting up here do not care what

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,640
we want. They take credit for one minor

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01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,120
change in a project that I personally

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,679
spent hours fighting for. I made all the

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01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:50,480
calls. I did all the research. I sent

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01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:52,640
all the emails. If this bothers you as

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,120
much as it does me, please contact me.

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,800
Show up here next meeting and join us in

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,080
our fight for what's right because

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,560
Beaver Creek deserves better. Oh, and

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01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,960
PS. Nice try claiming the reduction in

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01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,960
the shared use path was driven by your

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01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,040
efforts. You didn't have the money to

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01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280
pay m Mr. Whiteiser for the depreciation

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,440
of his property. So you had to tuck your

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01:16:11,440 --> 01:16:14,320
tails and find another solution. Backing

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,080
off his land meant you didn't owe him.

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,239
And thus the 8oot path was born. Yeah, I

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01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:20,560
get you bet you didn't know that. Bet

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,440
they didn't tell you that. That's what

1775
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,120
happened. You were supposed to pay him

1776
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,719
and you didn't have the money to do it.

1777
01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:28,239
So that's why you had to back off his

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01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:29,840
land and that's where you got to the

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,080
eight foot path. Funny you forgot to

1780
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,000
mention that in your letter of lies. I

1781
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,760
guess telling the truth is too hard. I

1782
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,120
guess sitting in those seats give you

1783
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,120
some kind of immunity. And I guess

1784
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,880
Beaver Creek isn't the city I thought it

1785
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,199
was. Yesterday I saw a poster that I

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01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:45,280
thought was applies to the situation.

1787
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,960
You can't change the cards you're dealt

1788
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,040
just the way you play the hands. In

1789
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,440
closing, you asked me if I got your

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01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:53,679
letter last time. Well, I got a second

1791
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:55,440
letter from you guys, and I

1792
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:56,960
wholeheartedly appreciate your efforts

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:15,350
to silent me. Game on.

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,120
Uh my name is Ian Crow. I live on 2121

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01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,159
Prudence Drive, Bever Creek, Ohio.

1796
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:26,000
Uh my um complaint is that these new

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,400
ebikes that are riding around that kids

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01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,719
love and stuff and I understand because

1799
01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:33,840
I'm a kid at heart, but technically it's

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,800
kind of causing a nuisance. For one, I'm

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01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,280
afraid that I'm going to get run over by these and get seriously hurt. And

1802
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,760
I've read reports that some of these

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,440
bikes malfunction and blow up and stuff.

1804
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:50,320
But the re reason why I say this, like

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,320
shouldn't, seeing how these bikes have

1806
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,080
motors, shouldn't you have a license for

1807
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,520
this? Because a moped has a motor, you

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01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,000
have to ride it on the street with a

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,040
license, but the kids are riding on the

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,000
walk path, which I understand,

1811
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,040
but basically saying is like I see these

1812
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,840
I see kids riding their bike on the

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,719
special needs park that I uh practice

1814
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,960
softball on and there are marks on the

1815
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,640
turf and I'm g and and I'm trying to

1816
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,840
save the taxpayers money by saying, "Why

1817
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,679
are you destroying And these and these

1818
01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:28,960
bikes are kind of made like dirt bikes.

1819
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,120
I mean, you see kids wearing dirt bike

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,880
helmets because then you know that these

1821
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,880
bikes go 20 miles to 28 miles per hour.

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01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,640
Someone can get seriously hurt.

1823
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,679
And I understand Councilman Upton said

1824
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:45,840
to me that they they are looking into

1825
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,800
it, but I for one am worried about my

1826
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,960
safety. I mean, I understand I can't

1827
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,320
drive myself because of my um learning

1828
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,040
challenges, but there has to be

1829
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,800
responsibility. I understand kids want

1830
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,320
to have fun. It's like riding a

1831
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,719
motorcycle and stuff, but with great

1832
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:05,360
power comes great responsibility.

1833
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,280
And like I said, if kids want to ride

1834
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,239
it, then get a license. If the

1835
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,560
insurance, if you need insurance, well,

1836
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,600
that's up to the parents. And that's Oh,

1837
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,360
and one other thing that um When I walk

1838
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,640
on the walk path to my job at Lowe's or

1839
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,320
when I'm walking from there, there are a

1840
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,199
lot of cracks like sideway cracks all

1841
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:29,760
the way up close to Speedway and I can

1842
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,239
put my whole foot in there. And I would

1843
01:19:32,239 --> 01:19:35,040
ask that uh money would be used to fill

1844
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,199
up those cracks because if I ride my

1845
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:38,960
regular bike, I'm afraid that I'm going

1846
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,280
to get hurt and seriously hurt and I

1847
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,840
don't want to cause the taxpayers money

1848
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,320
and stuff. I'm looking out for myself

1849
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:57,910
and others. Thank you. Thank you.

1850
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,640
» Hello, Lori Volani, 710 Carlbrook.

1851
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,360
Um, of course, about Shaker Town. We've

1852
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,520
come before you now repeatedly to ask

1853
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,600
for this project to be cancelled because

1854
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,480
you all are elected, our elected

1855
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:14,800
representatives. You were elected to

1856
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,679
represent us, not people who might be

1857
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:19,600
driving on Shaker Town 10 years from

1858
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,840
now, but to represent those who live

1859
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,159
along there now, not drivers in the

1860
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:26,320
future, um, but us, the current

1861
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,239
residents who have chosen to live on

1862
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:30,239
Shaker Town or just off the road and

1863
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:33,120
drive it every day. Um, we see the

1864
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,199
number of vehicles that drive on this

1865
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:37,040
road. We know that we have little

1866
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,719
difficulty getting on and off of

1867
01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:41,199
Carl'sbrook, on and off of Merrick. We

1868
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:42,719
see there's a nominal amount of

1869
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:45,120
driveways and roads which require a left

1870
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,360
turn to enter. On the south side of

1871
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,280
Shaker Town, there's three roads and I

1872
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,440
believe approximately eight driveways.

1873
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,440
Um on the north side of Shaker Town

1874
01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:56,000
where we are, there's only two roads and

1875
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,320
seven driveways.

1876
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,560
In your letter that you sent to us, you

1877
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,239
stated about the growth of Beaver Creek.

1878
01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:04,239
I know Beaver Creek has grown. The

1879
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:06,239
subdivision on the north side of Shaker

1880
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,640
Town, uh where we live, has has room for

1881
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,880
no more houses. It's built out. The

1882
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,120
housing area on the south side of Shaker

1883
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,120
Town also can't have any more building

1884
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,560
unless there's something that you all

1885
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,800
aren't telling us. So along this route,

1886
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:20,560
the number of left turns, there really

1887
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,480
can't be any more left turns than there

1888
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:25,440
already are. Um, we turn left frequently

1889
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,360
off of Shaker Town and it is a rare

1890
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,520
occurrence that there is a car behind us

1891
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,000
that is being delayed because we had to

1892
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,159
slow down to make our turn. So just

1893
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:36,239
because Beaver Creek is growing and and

1894
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:38,400
I I grew up in Beaver Creek, it is

1895
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,159
growing, but that doesn't mean it's

1896
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:42,400
growing around by us because it has not

1897
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,760
been not anymore. Um my understanding is

1898
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,920
that you apply for this grant with uh

1899
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,120
numbers that were based on the

1900
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,560
pre-reconfiguration of Shakertown um and

1901
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,960
35. If this is not the case, please show

1902
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,120
us that my mother has lived on Shaker

1903
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,000
Town for 55 years. We've lived just off

1904
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,159
Shaker Town for six and we just do not

1905
01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:03,920
see the traffic volume whether we're

1906
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,040
driving or just sitting in our backyard.

1907
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,880
Also, in your letter, you noted that you

1908
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,960
had spent almost a million dollars. But

1909
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,800
if you would have come to us first

1910
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,199
before you spent anything and had a

1911
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,960
meeting with the affected citizens and

1912
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,440
listen to what our concerns were as our

1913
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,280
elected representatives, you could have

1914
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,440
saved that money. Um, I can personally

1915
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,520
tell you that if my husband and I felt

1916
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,520
this project was necessary, we would

1917
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,679
support it. So, I just wonder, I mean,

1918
01:22:29,679 --> 01:22:31,120
do you not hold a meeting because you

1919
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,600
knew we would be against it, and so you

1920
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,280
might not have gotten what you all

1921
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,800
wanted, which was a nice wider road. Um,

1922
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,239
if that's the case, then you're just

1923
01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:43,440
pushing your desires on us.

1924
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,760
The last time the city income tax was on

1925
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,679
the ballot, I voted for it, even though

1926
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:49,920
it would have negatively affected me

1927
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,760
because at that time, I worked in the

1928
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,360
city. And of course, I live in the city,

1929
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,960
but I'm not going to vote for it this

1930
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,440
time because you're using our money

1931
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,679
against us on pushing this road project

1932
01:22:59,679 --> 01:23:02,960
onto us that we do not want. So my hope

1933
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,159
is um if you go through one little two

1934
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:08,080
lines, my hope is that if you go through

1935
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,920
with this project, those of you on

1936
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,159
council will drive this project in this

1937
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:14,639
road a lot because you can then enjoy

1938
01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:17,280
the sterile sterile roadway, the

1939
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,520
wonderful three lanes, curbs, and no

1940
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,360
trees because those of us who live there

1941
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,679
will not be enjoying it. Thank you.

1942
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:35,590
>> Thank you.

1943
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,199
Hi there. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and

1944
01:23:37,199 --> 01:23:39,920
Council members. Lisa Nybert, 2970

1945
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,199
Shakertown Road. Hi. I'm here again in

1946
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:47,120
opposition to the road winding project.

1947
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,960
Our city has a responsibility to

1948
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,360
maintain our streets. This area of

1949
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,280
Shaker Town, this 68 miles

1950
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,280
has been neglected for about nine years

1951
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,000
or more. I would like to know why

1952
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,800
officially from documentation.

1953
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,440
I would like to know why when it had

1954
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:08,960
previously been scheduled for

1955
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,120
reservicing, what the budget was and why

1956
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,239
it was not completed.

1957
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:16,800
We the residents have provided you

1958
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,360
factual data that you guys cannot

1959
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,080
refute. yet you repudate the data and

1960
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,440
have stated that you are proceeding with

1961
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,080
the project. I think that was

1962
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,880
blatantly clear in our letter we got a

1963
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:33,830
few weeks ago that it is going forward

1964
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:38,080
tonight where we are at actually

1965
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,840
this area of Shakertown does need

1966
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,719
maintenance resurfacing and storm sewer

1967
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:44,239
improvements.

1968
01:24:44,239 --> 01:24:46,400
I believe these things are all covered

1969
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,480
slashfunded by our current street

1970
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:50,719
levies.

1971
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:52,960
Project 119964

1972
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:57,120
is not past the point of no build.

1973
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,880
Beaver Creek has not received the funds,

1974
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,800
the federal funds, so you don't have to

1975
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,120
give it back.

1976
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,120
Your current expenditures are already

1977
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,000
over budget.

1978
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,080
That won't be a total loss as you can

1979
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:14,000
still use much of the engineering design

1980
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,080
drawings that have been spent that $1

1981
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,840
million on so far towards the necessary

1982
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,920
storm drainage and resurfacing and

1983
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,800
overall traffic needs. Just not this

1984
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,520
particular project.

1985
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,320
The federal funds applied for sadly were

1986
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,679
the wrong funds.

1987
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:38,480
In my opinion, as a citizen and as a

1988
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:39,760
business owner who's done government

1989
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,360
contracting for my entire life, what you

1990
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,400
are faced with right now is you need to

1991
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:52,550
withdraw your application.

1992
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,320
With all the newer information, you can

1993
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,440
apply for a correct grant that will do

1994
01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:59,760
what we need done and ease the burden of

1995
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,480
the taxpayers.

1996
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:04,400
When I do my job wrong, if I make

1997
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,320
choices for my business and my

1998
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,159
business's future without doing my due

1999
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:10,880
diligence, I have to accept and manage

2000
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,199
my way through the consequences. And

2001
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:15,440
that is what I'm expecting Beaver Creek.

2002
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:19,440
I say Beaver Creek, all parties, you is

2003
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:22,400
the whole of it. I'm expecting you guys

2004
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,920
to do that. It's not devastating. It

2005
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,239
won't be pleasant experience, but it's

2006
01:26:28,239 --> 01:26:30,480
still good business. Be responsible and

2007
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:52,149
do what's best for our city. Thank you.

2008
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:55,120
Rex Turner, 1456 New Way Drive. I know

2009
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,639
you my time to

2010
01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:00,320
>> Thank you.

2011
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,159
>> Um,

2012
01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:04,000
good evening, Mr. Mayor and city council

2013
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,159
members. Uh, my name is Gary Dunl. I

2014
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:08,239
live at 340 Shakertown Road, and I stand

2015
01:27:08,239 --> 01:27:10,719
before you in 100% opposition to the

2016
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:13,199
Shakertown Road improvements project ID

2017
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:15,360
number 119964.

2018
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,840
Uh our group opposes this waste of local

2019
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,960
taxpayer funds and federal funds. Uh and

2020
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,880
we've consistently brought to your all's

2021
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:26,080
attention multiple times facts that that

2022
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,199
don't support the project and and you've

2023
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:31,520
heard more of them tonight. So, uh,

2024
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,120
additionally, I'm going to give each of

2025
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:38,870
you some some hard copy of some stuff

2026
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,390
and

2027
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:45,040
give you some some something to look at

2028
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:49,520
and and and so it's just these facts are

2029
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,880
just overwhelmingly um I I don't know

2030
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,840
how you guys as a group can sit here and

2031
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,600
look at these facts and listen to the

2032
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,120
facts that your engineering department

2033
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:04,800
has given you and have any any clue of why you would even approve this

2034
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,560
thing. It's just absurd. Um so, uh

2035
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,920
number one, uh the MVRP funding

2036
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,000
application, first page of what I gave

2037
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,320
you all, um states on there that that

2038
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,280
the urban major collector, the the third

2039
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,560
highlighted area there is 5,300 vehicles

2040
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,360
per day. And that is not even correct.

2041
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,960
If you'll look on the data that I've

2042
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,440
supplied attached to that, there's no

2043
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:35,280
5,300 vehicle per day count on there.

2044
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,120
So, your engineering department is just

2045
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:38,800
making up numbers and throwing them on

2046
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,679
there. Number one. Number two, that

2047
01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:46,639
whole that whole thing was based on based on

2048
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:51,679
pre Shaker Town Road 35 access. Um, if

2049
01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:54,719
you look at the counts today, um, our

2050
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:57,120
counts have gone from like our traffic

2051
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,520
counts have gone from like, you know,

2052
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,520
6,300 cars a day. Um, back in back in

2053
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,760
2016 to 2019, 2020, they dropped to

2054
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,520
like, you know, 3,300 uh, per day. So,

2055
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,920
why are we spending $5 million to put in

2056
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,560
a new twothirds of a mile roadway? I

2057
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,040
mean, what sense does that make? Can any

2058
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,960
of you tell me that? I don't think it

2059
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,400
can. Um the facts speak for themselves,

2060
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:28,480
you know. I mean, and it goes on. Um in

2061
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,480
the data that I have given you all, it

2062
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,440
gives you specific year by year by year

2063
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:38,922
from 25 all the way back to um

2064
01:29:38,922 --> 01:29:41,600
[clears throat] all the way back to

2065
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,280
2016.

2066
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,239
Um, this is ODOT information that gives

2067
01:29:46,239 --> 01:29:48,320
you the daily traffic counts of

2068
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,960
Shakertown Road and it's measured right

2069
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:59,510
there at um um

2070
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,040
» Carthage. Yeah, right there at Carthage.

2071
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,400
That's where the That's where the counts

2072
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,600
are taken. And And it's just I just

2073
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,199
don't

2074
01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:10,080
again half of what it was like six years

2075
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,159
ago. and you all want to spend $5

2076
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:15,520
million on a road expansion. I mean,

2077
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,800
what sense does that make?

2078
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,800
Can I mean, I'd love to hear an answer

2079
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,520
from you somehow someway. It makes no

2080
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,360
sense whatsoever.

2081
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,400
Um, number two, um, the same application

2082
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,280
is indicated has identified the fund

2083
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,679
source that this project is to be funded

2084
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:37,679
under is number one. It says again going

2085
01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:39,679
back to the first page that I gave you,

2086
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:41,520
please identify the fund source you

2087
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,199
anticipate this project to be funded

2088
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:45,760
under. You're they're saying suggested

2089
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,360
congestion mitigation and air quality.

2090
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,520
What congestion do we have on Shakertown

2091
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,480
Road? And what air quality problems do

2092
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:56,719
we have on Shaker Town Road? Now, now

2093
01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:58,639
you guys want to take 125 trees out of

2094
01:30:58,639 --> 01:30:59,840
Shakertown Road. Yeah, we're going to

2095
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,080
have some air quality issues, but how

2096
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,159
can you how can you how can you as a

2097
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,239
city council and how can you as a mayor

2098
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:08,320
allow your engineering department to

2099
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,199
send this kind of crap in? It's false

2100
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:13,040
information.

2101
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,560
It's absolutely false information.

2102
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,920
I just I it just baffles me that that

2103
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,719
you as a you as a council that are

2104
01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:24,880
responsible for the employees of this

2105
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,520
city can allow this kind of information

2106
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,440
to pass.

2107
01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:33,600
It makes no sense whatsoever. Um

2108
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,480
number three um

2109
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:39,199
additionally the you know the MBRPC

2110
01:31:39,199 --> 01:31:42,480
application states please or provide a

2111
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:46,639
short description um of the needs and

2112
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:49,040
benefits of the project uh and that's

2113
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,679
attached to you go back to like the

2114
01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:55,440
after after the traffic uh reports um I

2115
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,600
think it's like the fifth six page back

2116
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,840
in the space prep below provide a short

2117
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,239
description of the need and benefits of

2118
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:04,480
this project. So they're saying, your

2119
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:05,760
engineering department is saying the

2120
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,679
project is needed to provide safe

2121
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:10,159
passage to the traveling public through

2122
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:12,080
the corridor of Shakertown Road by

2123
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,400
reducing accidents. We've already been

2124
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,480
through that 10 times. There are no

2125
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:18,880
accidents on Shakertown Road. There are

2126
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,639
deer strikes, but we don't have

2127
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:22,639
accidents on Shaker Town Road. But

2128
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,960
they're using that as a basis for $5

2129
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,760
million of expenditure. And what sense

2130
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,880
does that make? Um

2131
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,880
Additionally reading on by reducing

2132
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,280
accidents, reducing congestion. What

2133
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,320
congestion do we have on Shakertown Road

2134
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,239
and improving safety to the general

2135
01:32:40,239 --> 01:32:42,960
public? There's no safety issues. So,

2136
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,960
this is just all being created by your

2137
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,440
engineering department for no reason

2138
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,920
whatsoever other than to spend taxpayers

2139
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,600
money. To spend a million and a half

2140
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,679
dollars of Beaver Creek taxpayer money

2141
01:32:53,679 --> 01:32:56,639
and and $3 million of federal money.

2142
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:58,880
It's just crazy. How can you guys

2143
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,920
approve this stuff? There's no logic to

2144
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,199
it. There's no facts to it. Uh accidents

2145
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:06,719
will be reduced. We don't have

2146
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:09,760
accidents. And safety improved through a

2147
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,159
two two-way turn lane. We don't have

2148
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:14,239
those issues.

2149
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,560
Um

2150
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,360
number four, um it goes on the next

2151
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,600
page. If you look at project or project

2152
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,520
benefits and complete streets

2153
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,400
discussion, number one project benefits,

2154
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,480
improved traffic flow along Shakertown

2155
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:30,320
Road. We don't have problems with

2156
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,800
traffic flow. Number two, improved

2157
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,639
safety along Shaker Town Road. We don't

2158
01:33:34,639 --> 01:33:36,960
have safety issues. Improved pedestrian

2159
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,719
access. We don't have pedestrians on

2160
01:33:38,719 --> 01:33:41,600
Chakertown Road. Improved bicycle

2161
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,520
access. We don't have bicycles on Shaker

2162
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,000
Town Road. They are creating all this

2163
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,400
stuff and you guys approve it. How can

2164
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,520
you do that? It's all created. It It's

2165
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,199
just there's no facts to any of this

2166
01:33:53,199 --> 01:33:57,760
stuff. No facts whatsoever. So, um so

2167
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,719
here we are in closing. Uh the facts are

2168
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:03,120
uh I presented you all again uh to

2169
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:04,880
reinforce the fact that your engineering

2170
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,199
department has been very very inaccurate

2171
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:10,320
in the facts that they have used um in

2172
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,280
this application process. And your

2173
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,760
choices are three. You Mr. mayor and you

2174
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,239
city council members do what is

2175
01:34:18,239 --> 01:34:20,480
professionally and ethically correct and

2176
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:23,520
bring this project to a stop. It's all

2177
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,560
wrong. Number two, if not, you are

2178
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,960
failing in your roles as representatives

2179
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,440
of the citizens of Beaver Creek. We're

2180
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,719
travels fast and I and I suspect that

2181
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:37,120
many many more citizens of Beaver Creek

2182
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,159
are going to know about your handling of

2183
01:34:40,159 --> 01:34:43,040
this project um if it's not stopped.

2184
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,600
Now, number three,

2185
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,639
you all are are moving us closer to seek

2186
01:34:48,639 --> 01:34:50,880
out alternative means of bringing this

2187
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,520
awful project to anatomy.

2188
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,639
Uh, and I don't want to go there. So,

2189
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:58,159
uh, I thank you, Mr. Mayor and city

2190
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:00,800
council members for your time. U, please

2191
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,280
counsel this or cancel this member

2192
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,320
project immediately. It benefits nobody.

2193
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:06,880
Thank you.

2194
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:19,110
>> Thank you.

2195
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:33,830
She's already

2196
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:49,510
Anyone else?

2197
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,639
again. I am Janice Jacobs, 3040 Dayton

2198
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:55,760
Xenior Road.

2199
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,480
We've I have just lived through what

2200
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:01,280
these poor people you're going to make

2201
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,629
live through.

2202
01:36:04,639 --> 01:36:07,440
I've lived through it since the 5th of

2203
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:11,040
July, 2025

2204
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,360
with the widening

2205
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:17,360
and the removal and replacement of the

2206
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:21,110
sidewalks.

2207
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:25,280
When it started, I believe that

2208
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,960
well, this nightmare is a wonderful

2209
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,360
thing to start going through every

2210
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:34,310
single day.

2211
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,600
I was paid for five feet of my frontage

2212
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,719
of my yard.

2213
01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:43,679
Next thing I know,

2214
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:45,840
not only did they take five feet of that

2215
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,360
frontage, they turned around and came up

2216
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,520
my driveway 5T behind what they had paid

2217
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,000
and took out a retaining wall in the

2218
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,830
process.

2219
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:03,520
I now have water standing in places it

2220
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,400
never has stood before because that dog

2221
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,480
on sidewalk is above grade.

2222
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,440
Every yard just about through that area

2223
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:15,040
from

2224
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,159
where they started it from the log cabin

2225
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:22,320
dentistry down to main school all slopes

2226
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,360
down towards the south.

2227
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:30,639
They built that sidewalk above grade.

2228
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:34,320
We could at one time before this pull

2229
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,159
directly out onto Dayton Zena

2230
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:40,719
straight out every house through there

2231
01:37:40,719 --> 01:37:43,440
except for the dentist or not dentist

2232
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:46,000
but the veterinarian on the hill next to

2233
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:48,159
me.

2234
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:52,960
Now we have to go up and over a hump to

2235
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,520
get out on Dayton Zena

2236
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:59,440
that is acting as a dam.

2237
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:02,320
On the right side, as I'm facing south,

2238
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:05,199
on the right side of my driveway, I had

2239
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:07,840
this lovely

2240
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,310
uh drainage culvert.

2241
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,199
It's now above where the water is

2242
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:17,920
supposed to be draining.

2243
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,320
Because of this lovely project that you

2244
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,400
guys just finished,

2245
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:26,800
I now have ponding water in the opposite

2246
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,280
side of the tree that's in my front

2247
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,119
yard,

2248
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:33,040
big enough that I can put fish in and go

2249
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,960
fishing.

2250
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,199
When it gets overflowing,

2251
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:40,159
it now runs down and it is cutting a

2252
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:43,840
gully in my front yard across all of

2253
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,400
that beautiful new black top you put on

2254
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,880
my driveway.

2255
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,199
So, yes, everyone,

2256
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:54,080
this is what you're going to be looking

2257
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:58,800
forward to if they pass this and go

2258
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,040
forward with this.

2259
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,360
I hope you don't

2260
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,840
because you've actually ruined Dayton

2261
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,719
Zena through there because of all the

2262
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:11,679
trees that you've cut down for this

2263
01:39:11,679 --> 01:39:14,639
because of all the construction and the

2264
01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:18,320
destruction of that construction.

2265
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,400
Don't do this. Don't do this to the

2266
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,719
Shaker Town neighborhoods.

2267
01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,560
Don't do this to Shaker Town.

2268
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:37,830
>> Thank you.

2269
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:47,270
Anyone

2270
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:55,430
else?

2271
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,360
All right, seeing none, I will close the

2272
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:01,199
uh citiz comments. Uh council time.

2273
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:03,119
Councilman LL.

2274
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:05,760
>> Thank you, mayor.

2275
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,600
Again, thanks for everybody for coming

2276
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,119
out.

2277
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:12,560
There was uh

2278
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,600
a lot of comments, some new things we

2279
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,199
haven't heard before, but a lot of

2280
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:20,480
things we've that's been repeated. And I

2281
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:23,760
understand the desire to have a back and

2282
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:28,080
forth with us up here.

2283
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,280
This project here was a long-term

2284
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,480
planning goal with the city before I was

2285
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:37,199
even elected. these

2286
01:40:37,199 --> 01:40:40,159
major throughfair areas.

2287
01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:45,600
Um, we can pretend today that we feel

2288
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,760
the traffic isn't high in that area and

2289
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,199
like it'll never increase in the next

2290
01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:55,280
year or two.

2291
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:58,080
The city does

2292
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:02,229
make

2293
01:41:02,239 --> 01:41:06,480
choices and attempts to see into the

2294
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:10,800
future. We've tried to

2295
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,760
stop projects like the gas station that

2296
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,920
went in because we knew that the

2297
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,080
overpass down there, everybody wants it.

2298
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,679
If a project like that does happen, you

2299
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:26,159
will see increases in traffic on Shaker

2300
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:28,880
Town. Absolutely.

2301
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:30,480
All the projects that are currently

2302
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:33,440
happening in the township, Beaver Creek

2303
01:41:33,440 --> 01:41:35,760
Township, when those are all completed

2304
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,400
and filled, you will see traffic

2305
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,480
increasing on Shakertown Road.

2306
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:47,280
The Shakertown Road project isn't

2307
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,800
this section of roadway that we're

2308
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,199
discussing isn't the only section of

2309
01:41:51,199 --> 01:41:53,119
Shakertown Road that has been expanded

2310
01:41:53,119 --> 01:41:56,000
over the years. This is a continuation

2311
01:41:56,000 --> 01:42:04,310
of a project that's been moving forward.

2312
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,639
This roadway

2313
01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:10,560
is in front of your homes and I get that

2314
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,119
and I understand how it directly impacts

2315
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:15,199
you because you're the residents that

2316
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,639
live there. However, you are not the

2317
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:21,760
only people that use that road.

2318
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,000
There are people all over the city and

2319
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,560
outside the city that use that road and

2320
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,600
that will continue using that roadway.

2321
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,639
The roadway is being developed by the

2322
01:42:32,639 --> 01:42:35,600
city as a whole. Everybody's paying for

2323
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,800
it, not just the individuals that live

2324
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,480
in that in that area. The property take

2325
01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:45,920
that people have made comments about is

2326
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:49,600
this project is an anomaly in the fact

2327
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,440
that it does not take

2328
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:56,239
a lot of people's private property. Most

2329
01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:57,920
of this project is happening in the

2330
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:02,790
right of way.

2331
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:14,149
The

2332
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:17,920
comments that were made regarding

2333
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,679
not being a little 204, I don't know

2334
01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:21,679
where those things came from. I will

2335
01:43:21,679 --> 01:43:24,480
tell you that me personally, I went to

2336
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:28,639
MBRPC had discussions with with the uh

2337
01:43:28,639 --> 01:43:30,719
grant writers, the approval pro the

2338
01:43:30,719 --> 01:43:33,600
approval and the head of MBRPC in

2339
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,840
regards to this project.

2340
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,280
um calls were made to ODOT to see about

2341
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,760
reducing this sidewalk because that was

2342
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,920
what we were hearing and wanted to do

2343
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,400
something to

2344
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:49,600
say we understand that a 10-ft sidewalk

2345
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,600
didn't make sense to you. Um they agreed

2346
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,239
didn't have anything to do with payments

2347
01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:58,239
not being able to be afforded. So I

2348
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:00,639
don't know where that comes from.

2349
01:44:00,639 --> 01:44:04,719
Um, we all hear things and and sometimes

2350
01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:10,870
we hear things that we want to hear. I

2351
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,280
like

2352
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,199
this project

2353
01:44:15,199 --> 01:44:18,400
in the sense that I was on Shakertown

2354
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:23,199
Road today. I was west of Fairfield

2355
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:25,040
Road, though. I wasn't all the way down

2356
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,480
where you were today. Um, and cars were

2357
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:30,719
directly in front of me. Two of them

2358
01:44:30,719 --> 01:44:32,960
moved over to the center lane to turn

2359
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,159
left into driveways, which allowed me to

2360
01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:39,040
continue on in the roadway while they

2361
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,719
stayed in the middle lane and cars

2362
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:45,040
coming west while they waited. It does

2363
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:49,199
allow for safer traffic.

2364
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:52,880
Um, this is an improvement to storm

2365
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:54,320
water.

2366
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,080
I I hope the the lady from Dayton Zena

2367
01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,679
has contacted the engineering

2368
01:44:59,679 --> 01:45:01,600
department. I know you that's the first

2369
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,600
anybody up here has heard anything like

2370
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,159
that. I can promise you and I hope

2371
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:07,760
you've made contact with the engineering

2372
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:09,440
department to get something out there to

2373
01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:12,480
get a a resolution to that immediately

2374
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:14,639
before it goes any further. I do know

2375
01:45:14,639 --> 01:45:17,920
that we've had record rainfall in the in

2376
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:22,320
the month of August, which is crazy. Um,

2377
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:28,400
but I hope I hope that you do that the idea

2378
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,360
that this this develop this developing

2379
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,719
this roadway decreases decreases

2380
01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:38,080
property value is unprecedented.

2381
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,119
If if you if if you ladies and gentlemen

2382
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:44,560
if you increase we

2383
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,360
>> if there was no property taken from an

2384
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,239
individual

2385
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:52,719
It can't decrease the property value for

2386
01:45:52,719 --> 01:45:55,440
that individual.

2387
01:45:55,440 --> 01:46:02,149
The

2388
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:04,400
I'm out came out of the line. I do want

2389
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,760
to to to um address Miss Harvey

2390
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,109
specifically.

2391
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:14,000
» Sir, you've had your time with council

2392
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,239
time. Miss Harvey, you stated when you were making your statements, I I

2393
01:46:18,239 --> 01:46:20,719
thought you were looking at me. I'm I'm

2394
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:23,040
not sure if you've heard somebody state

2395
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,199
that I said something about you to

2396
01:46:25,199 --> 01:46:29,430
somebody.

2397
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:31,119
» Okay. I just wanted to make sure you

2398
01:46:31,119 --> 01:46:33,920
knew you knew that I had never

2399
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,400
>> So, I wanted to I wanted to I'm just

2400
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,320
trying to address the things that I

2401
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,800
heard because people say and this is how

2402
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,280
much people wanted to hear the back and

2403
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,360
forth by everybody walking out of the

2404
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:46,960
room.

2405
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,400
I'm just making statements, ma'am.

2406
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,719
the

2407
01:46:52,719 --> 01:46:55,360
I've heard tonight that there's been no

2408
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:56,880
accidents and then I heard another

2409
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:58,719
individual say they've had cars in their

2410
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:00,400
front yard.

2411
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:09,990
>> Okay.

2412
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,520
I've heard I've heard

2413
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,840
>> that. That's fine. I I'm okay. I'm not

2414
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,920
mad about I'm not mad at anybody. I'm

2415
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,520
just I'm just making statements no

2416
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:20,639
different than what you were doing when

2417
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:28,239
you were standing here. Okay. The comment about

2418
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:30,400
wanting to go do away with all levies

2419
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,159
and make them in because you don't like

2420
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:35,520
roads being fixed. That right there

2421
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,440
makes no sense to me. I don't know why

2422
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:40,000
anybody would make comments like that.

2423
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,920
I I I don't I don't know why anybody

2424
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,119
would say something like that.

2425
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:48,239
Um and I do want to end by saying that

2426
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:49,840
and I wish I'd have said this last week

2427
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,760
and I should have said more. Um the

2428
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,000
letter that was sent to everybody was

2429
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,159
signed by the mayor and I did see this

2430
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:01,360
letter before it went out. I do endorse

2431
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:03,520
what Mayor Adams had to say in that

2432
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:07,280
letter. This project is moving forward

2433
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,400
in from my opinion because it is a

2434
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,280
project that we approved last year as

2435
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,639
part of the long-term plan for the city

2436
01:48:16,639 --> 01:48:19,440
of Beaver Creek. Not only for traffic

2437
01:48:19,440 --> 01:48:21,600
that day, but future traffic problems

2438
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,920
that are going to come in the future.

2439
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:26,000
And I know I've upset some people. It's

2440
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,600
not the first time I've upset people.

2441
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:29,920
I'm I'm retired law enforcement. I've

2442
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:36,639
made people mad every day. So, and and I apologize if I hurt feelings. I know

2443
01:48:36,639 --> 01:48:39,040
people stormed out of the room, but

2444
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,880
that's that's just where I stand. And I thank you for my time. I yield my

2445
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,480
time. That's all I have to say.

2446
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,119
>> Thank you, Councilman Der.

2447
01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:51,040
>> Appreciate it, Mayor. And I want to

2448
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,520
thank everyone uh in attendance today. I

2449
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,360
know it's exhausting to come out

2450
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:59,920
multiple times. Uh we do listen.

2451
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:04,239
It takes a while to think it through.

2452
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:07,679
And I want to make a statement to all of

2453
01:49:07,679 --> 01:49:10,880
you today. Um, I don't anticipate that

2454
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,880
I'll change any minds and I don't

2455
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,159
anticipate that I'll assuage anyone. I

2456
01:49:16,159 --> 01:49:18,239
know that there's significant cynicism

2457
01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:20,639
of government and I understand that. Um,

2458
01:49:20,639 --> 01:49:23,360
but I'm a neighbor. I'm a human being.

2459
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,000
Um, and I mean you no harm. I really

2460
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:27,679
don't. I'm trying to do what's best for

2461
01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:31,840
the city as a whole. Um I'm one of seven

2462
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,080
members of council

2463
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,960
and I haven't discussed my statements

2464
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,840
with anyone. Um

2465
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,840
if we start on a macro level when the

2466
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,560
city started in 1980

2467
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,440
world population was 4.4 billion. Today

2468
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:51,840
it's 8.1.

2469
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:56,000
Nationally it was 230 sorry 226 million

2470
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,719
today it is 342

2471
01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:02,239
in the city it was 31,000 it is now

2472
01:50:02,239 --> 01:50:04,400
47,000

2473
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,119
throughout the entire world we have seen

2474
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:08,639
growth

2475
01:50:08,639 --> 01:50:12,080
uh the expansion of areas the need for

2476
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,119
upgrades things of that nature and so

2477
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:17,440
today I really just want to explain some

2478
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:20,000
of the tradeoffs in my thinking whether

2479
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:22,080
you agree or disagree here's Here's some

2480
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,920
of the backdrop.

2481
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:28,719
If we start with a really basic point on

2482
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:31,440
simply the need to repave, I know

2483
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:34,320
there's real concern over the amount of

2484
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,080
repaving that we've seen in Beaver

2485
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,800
Creek. Uh, and I've driven the

2486
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,040
congestion myself,

2487
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,600
but what I would like to note to you is

2488
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,600
that imagine the alternative. Imagine

2489
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,520
that your roads didn't get paved.

2490
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,000
Think about cities

2491
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,000
that don't take care or don't plan

2492
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,159
ahead.

2493
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:02,239
It is something where a city will

2494
01:51:02,239 --> 01:51:03,840
degrade

2495
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,840
and fall in the minds of people quite

2496
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,639
quickly. And so our goal here is to

2497
01:51:10,639 --> 01:51:14,239
upkeep the city.

2498
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:17,910
Should

2499
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,440
it be paved under the current

2500
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:20,960
configuration?

2501
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,440
Our tradeoff is that we have a

2502
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:27,600
thoroughare plan going back to 2019.

2503
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:30,159
There are similar examples on North

2504
01:51:30,159 --> 01:51:33,360
Fairfield, on Kemp, on Graange Hall, on

2505
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,199
Indian Ripple. And I know that they

2506
01:51:35,199 --> 01:51:37,520
cause upheaval to the residents that

2507
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,679
live there. I've gone through similar

2508
01:51:39,679 --> 01:51:42,080
things in my own life. It's it's not fun

2509
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,280
for a season. Uh but at the same time,

2510
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,080
if we were to look at Shaker Town to its

2511
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:51,360
east and to its west, we have seen those

2512
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:53,440
infrastructure improvements. Imagine

2513
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:55,760
driving through seeing the improvements

2514
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:00,000
in one area, not in the 6 milesi and

2515
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,229
then seeing it again.

2516
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:06,800
We and a number of people have correctly

2517
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,920
pointed this out that the thorough play

2518
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,520
thoroughare plan should have been

2519
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,719
updated in 5 years that's 2024.

2520
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:17,520
Uh we initiated a land use plan and to

2521
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,159
update zoning and so this is something

2522
01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:24,639
that is on our radar and as I noted in a

2523
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:27,360
previous council meeting our funding is

2524
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,280
peacemeal. We have to do it piece by

2525
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:33,040
piece. The equivalent is imagine having

2526
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:36,400
to pay your mortgage all in one payment.

2527
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,880
It's why it has to be this quote unquote

2528
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,760
Frankenstein road and why we have to

2529
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:46,709
plan it and do it appropriately.

2530
01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:48,719
A great question was raised at a

2531
01:52:48,719 --> 01:52:50,400
previous meeting that is do

2532
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,880
infrastructure changes lead to property

2533
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,040
value decreases?

2534
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,679
Um, I think it's a great question to ask

2535
01:52:57,679 --> 01:53:00,000
and I've spent significant time trying

2536
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,520
to research it. It's one of the reasons

2537
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,599
we don't have a back and forth because

2538
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:05,679
we all need just time to go research and

2539
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:07,840
to understand.

2540
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,800
I'm an academic. The best I found in

2541
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,760
general is the answer is no.

2542
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:15,760
Real estate is almost always a good

2543
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:20,719
investment, but there are circumstances.

2544
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:24,800
the great recession of 2008, um subprime

2545
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,800
mortgage issues,

2546
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,480
um

2547
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:31,440
inflationary issues, uh localized

2548
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:35,119
concerns. And so what I ask you is this.

2549
01:53:35,119 --> 01:53:37,760
If if there's something that we don't

2550
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,080
know as a council,

2551
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,560
please send me a peer-reviewed paper

2552
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:44,719
that has studied this. I will read it

2553
01:53:44,719 --> 01:53:48,320
back and forth. uh please

2554
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,880
I I've been through many of these and I

2555
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:55,750
found

2556
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:59,760
can we do an econ economist a realtor is

2557
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,000
specialized in a certain way but an

2558
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:05,599
economist studies wider trends

2559
01:54:05,599 --> 01:54:08,790
so

2560
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,280
» no no it it can be global it you just

2561
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,080
find something so I found two I found

2562
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:17,360
two I looked at multiple articles.

2563
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,760
There's one from the the Netherlands in

2564
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:24,229
2016.

2565
01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:25,760
But if you're looking at the way that

2566
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:28,239
infrastructure has changed, it's low its

2567
01:54:28,239 --> 01:54:31,440
impact on local a local economy, that's

2568
01:54:31,440 --> 01:54:33,920
what's giving us examples. It happens

2569
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:38,159
when there's infrastructure around major

2570
01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:40,560
um you know there's a train station as

2571
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,560
one example where the infrastructure was

2572
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,440
upgraded the property values decreased.

2573
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,119
It's things like that that I I'm

2574
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:49,040
interested in studying and learning

2575
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:55,350
more.

2576
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:58,320
What about the traffic counts?

2577
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:02,960
There's a clear difference of position.

2578
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,719
Uh and let's for a moment take the the

2579
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:09,599
numbers that were given here. Uh I drive

2580
01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:12,560
Shaker Town very regularly. My wife

2581
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,119
works on Shaker Town.

2582
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:17,040
You know, I I observed some of the same

2583
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,440
things that you observe. Here's what's

2584
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,840
on the other side of the ledger. And

2585
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,760
some here have rightly said, you know,

2586
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,560
what's happening here and now,

2587
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,840
but we do have to think through

2588
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,880
projections that we've been given.

2589
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,719
And I don't know the answer to these

2590
01:55:34,719 --> 01:55:38,480
things because they're projections.

2591
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,400
One is that there is a proposed

2592
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:43,679
development of 1600 houses

2593
01:55:43,679 --> 01:55:46,159
in the township. Can I guarantee you

2594
01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:48,719
that there'll be 1,600 houses? I have no

2595
01:55:48,719 --> 01:55:51,199
idea.

2596
01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:54,239
What about a new high school? I have no

2597
01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:57,119
idea.

2598
01:55:57,119 --> 01:55:59,280
But we do need to at least think through

2599
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,719
the tradeoff of an additional several

2600
01:56:02,719 --> 01:56:06,080
thousand cars potentially per day.

2601
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:07,840
Again, I don't know, but it's what goes

2602
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,639
through my mind in terms of thinking and

2603
01:56:10,639 --> 01:56:14,960
in terms of making a decision.

2604
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:19,280
The argument was made on sunk costs.

2605
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,480
I thought that was a very good argument.

2606
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,960
It really appealed to me.

2607
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,360
Um, I thought it was very very

2608
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:30,550
thoughtful.

2609
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:32,159
The other side of the sunk costs

2610
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:34,320
argument is that the road still isn't

2611
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,800
paved.

2612
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,920
But on the other side of sunk cost is

2613
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,639
also opportunity cost.

2614
01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:46,480
I don't know what happens

2615
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:52,470
if we turn this money back.

2616
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:57,440
How do MVRPCO O do look at us when we

2617
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,109
apply again?

2618
01:57:01,119 --> 01:57:03,920
We don't know is the answer. That's the

2619
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,080
challenge to it because again we're at

2620
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,159
large members. We represent all of

2621
01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:13,199
Beaver Creek. If we say no to this,

2622
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:15,679
what happens down the line? And we don't

2623
01:57:15,679 --> 01:57:17,199
know. That's I'm explaining the

2624
01:57:17,199 --> 01:57:23,270
tradeoffs that we have to think through.

2625
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,440
I'll leave it there, ma'am. Thank you.

2626
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,199
>> Thank you,

2627
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:32,470
Counciloman Bills.

2628
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,040
» So, I think out of all of us, I'm the

2629
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:36,880
only one that actually lives back in

2630
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:40,709
that neighborhood.

2631
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:43,119
I've sent my kids

2632
01:57:43,119 --> 01:57:44,880
to go to our church, which is one of the

2633
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,880
churches on Shaker Town, and they have

2634
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,920
to cross from Koi over to the church

2635
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,800
across the street. There's a whole host

2636
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,880
of families back there that go to that

2637
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:58,320
church. And I can tell you in the almost

2638
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:00,480
20 years of living back there that I've

2639
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,119
seen multiple young children almost get

2640
01:58:03,119 --> 01:58:06,400
hit by people in Chakertown.

2641
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,280
And I and that was your first response

2642
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,320
to me when I said that the first time we

2643
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,400
talked about this. I was immediately

2644
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,800
shut down.

2645
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,599
But it's the truth. You want us to

2646
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:22,480
accept your truth and your feelings

2647
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,960
about things.

2648
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,520
But when there's other truths and other

2649
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,080
experiences, those somehow are not as

2650
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,000
valid.

2651
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,719
I understand Heather how I understand

2652
01:58:34,719 --> 01:58:36,560
your frustration. And I am not trying to

2653
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,040
change your mind. I don't I'm not trying

2654
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,080
to make you like

2655
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,679
the church is fine with the sidewalk.

2656
01:58:45,679 --> 01:58:48,880
Um but I don't have control over that.

2657
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,560
I'm not in that position. But my point

2658
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,520
is Heather is and and for for everybody

2659
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,760
for anybody who lives in a project, Pete

2660
01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,320
lives in a project that he doesn't

2661
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,880
particularly enjoy all the time. I mean,

2662
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:05,920
it it happens to all of us at a point. I

2663
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,080
thought it sucked when the culvert had

2664
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,239
to be replaced. That was a nightmare.

2665
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:11,599
You know, we all lived with that for

2666
01:59:11,599 --> 01:59:14,000
ages. It seemed like it was unending,

2667
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,800
but it was necessary.

2668
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,040
There are no pedestrians on Shaker Town.

2669
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,520
You are absolutely right because it's

2670
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,040
dangerous.

2671
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,199
I wouldn't walk on Shaker Town as an

2672
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:28,800
adult and I would never send kids out on

2673
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,199
Shaker Town. I mean, I have pulled my

2674
01:59:31,199 --> 01:59:34,000
car over and like put it in the road so

2675
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,800
kids waiting there can cross. It's

2676
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:40,639
scary. So, we ab I mean, I have to say I

2677
01:59:40,639 --> 01:59:43,119
am in support of it will make this

2678
01:59:43,119 --> 01:59:45,280
street safer.

2679
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,520
It scares me to even try to go around

2680
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,840
bicyclists. There are just ditches.

2681
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:58,070
There's not even a shoulder to the road.

2682
01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:59,840
Yeah, there'll be there's two and

2683
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,159
there's one further down on the other.

2684
02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:07,360
Yeah, which is better. But and I I do

2685
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:10,080
understand. I mean, when the tree oak

2686
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,199
tree issue came up, I was concerned. We

2687
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:15,360
reached out. We have all had so many

2688
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:19,040
discussions about your concerns and

2689
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,080
trying to find ways to make things

2690
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,880
better. We have tried to compromise and

2691
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,920
we have achieved some compromises.

2692
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:31,440
There have been efforts

2693
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,520
and I do look at some of the houses on

2694
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,360
Shaker Town and recognize that you guys

2695
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,760
are I would not be happy either. Your

2696
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:40,800
houses are closer than I'm sure you wish

2697
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,440
they were. Um

2698
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:47,360
I get it. But once again,

2699
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,760
we're and I don't want to say that, you

2700
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,679
know, 20 people or even 30 people or

2701
02:00:51,679 --> 02:00:54,800
even 40 people, but compared to almost

2702
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,960
48,000 people to a city, we have to look

2703
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:02,000
at the larger picture. We have to think

2704
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:04,400
about the future.

2705
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:07,520
And this potential development

2706
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,639
is an issue. There are going to be

2707
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:12,480
things changing. We are going to see

2708
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:19,270
more traffic.

2709
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,119
You're you're right. They don't. And

2710
02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:26,390
unfortunately, we have to make

2711
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:29,280
» we Well, I didn't yell over you when you

2712
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,400
spoke. And I also don't need you to make

2713
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,159
comments about my appearance when you

2714
02:01:34,159 --> 02:01:36,719
come up front either.

2715
02:01:36,719 --> 02:01:40,070
Okay.

2716
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:41,920
When he came up and said, "Oh, you're

2717
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:45,510
looking fine today, honey.

2718
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:49,440
Yeah. Okay.

2719
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,920
Well, now that we've gotten past that,

2720
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:53,440
anyway,

2721
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,400
truly, no one is trying to hurt any of

2722
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,560
you. I do understand your frustration. I

2723
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:01,679
don't expect you to love this project. I

2724
02:02:01,679 --> 02:02:04,320
don't expect you to love the experience

2725
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,719
of these repairs. I don't think any of

2726
02:02:06,719 --> 02:02:08,800
us have enjoyed living through the

2727
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:10,480
things that have happened, you know, in

2728
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,480
our neighborhoods either. I just had a

2729
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:14,639
tree come through my creek and my yard

2730
02:02:14,639 --> 02:02:16,960
got flooded and my basement's flooded

2731
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:20,800
and you know, I mean, but it's a moment.

2732
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,080
Things will get fixed. I can wait, you

2733
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,159
know, for the the crews to come to take

2734
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:29,199
care of my tree. Um, by the way, thank

2735
02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:30,800
you. They came and took care of the

2736
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:34,880
tree. Um,

2737
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:37,199
I'm happy to sit down with any of you,

2738
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:40,000
but I do approve of this project. I also

2739
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,400
read the mayor's letter,

2740
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:46,239
and while you may not have liked what he

2741
02:02:46,239 --> 02:02:48,800
had to say or perhaps the way it was

2742
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:50,320
worded,

2743
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:54,560
our mayor's intentions are endlessly

2744
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,880
kind and endlessly responsible and

2745
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,760
thoughtful.

2746
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:03,840
He thinks about everybody all the time.

2747
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,679
And I can say that about everybody up

2748
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:07,280
here.

2749
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:11,520
These are wonderful people. Our

2750
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:14,400
employees are wonderful people. No one

2751
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,920
is trying to pull the wool over your

2752
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:20,239
eyes. No one is lying to you. I'm not

2753
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:21,920
saying that there may not have been a

2754
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:24,960
mistake like a a road count that only

2755
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:26,639
counted one way and didn't count the

2756
02:03:26,639 --> 02:03:31,040
other way or, you know,

2757
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,679
a stake that's a a foot away from where

2758
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:35,679
it should be or something like that.

2759
02:03:35,679 --> 02:03:37,760
We're all human.

2760
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,159
Everyone is human. You guys are also

2761
02:03:40,159 --> 02:03:41,760
human.

2762
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:45,199
And all representations from perhaps

2763
02:03:45,199 --> 02:03:49,520
there have been errors on both sides. I

2764
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,440
mean, or maybe we're talking past each

2765
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,480
other, but no one's trying to hurt you.

2766
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,040
Everyone is doing their best. And I

2767
02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:58,239
understand that you don't like the

2768
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:00,080
project. I'm not going to try to

2769
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,920
convince you to love the project. And

2770
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:03,360
I'm not going to convince you to stay

2771
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,199
home. You can come and complain about it

2772
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:07,440
every single meeting until the thing is

2773
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,679
over. And then you can keep coming after

2774
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:11,440
that. I'm never going to tell you that

2775
02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:12,960
your voice isn't important and that you

2776
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,840
shouldn't come and be heard.

2777
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,800
So, thank you for coming out. I'm sorry

2778
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:20,719
that you're unhappy.

2779
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:22,239
And

2780
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:26,000
I'm happy to talk to any of you. Thanks.

2781
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:29,280
Oh, and on a happier note, I would like

2782
02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,280
to welcome

2783
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:35,760
um Officer Hunsburgger to the city. Um

2784
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,239
it was great to go to his swearing in

2785
02:04:38,239 --> 02:04:40,400
and I'm looking forward to his time with

2786
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:44,790
our city. Thank you.

2787
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:50,070
» Thank you very much, Councilman Bales.

2788
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:52,159
» Thank you.

2789
02:04:52,159 --> 02:04:54,960
Uh, I too appreciate everyone coming out

2790
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,520
sharing your thoughts. I also appreciate

2791
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:59,679
listening to council's thoughts on on

2792
02:04:59,679 --> 02:05:03,119
the issue. Um, and I don't think I'm

2793
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:05,760
going to expound any more than what

2794
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,520
we've already heard and and talked about

2795
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,639
on it. Um, because we've all shared a

2796
02:05:10,639 --> 02:05:13,119
lot tonight and I took a lot of notes

2797
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:16,080
and and again, I appreciate that. But on

2798
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:19,040
a uh a happier note as well, like to

2799
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:22,080
congratulate the uh Beaver Creek Beaver

2800
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,480
football team for their big win over

2801
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,320
>> Zenia.

2802
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:29,280
Uh and I want

2803
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,599
>> I want to wish everybody a happy Labor

2804
02:05:31,599 --> 02:05:34,880
Day and um look forward to seeing

2805
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:37,040
everyone at the popcorn festival. I

2806
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:39,840
yield.

2807
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:41,599
>> Councelor Kern.

2808
02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:43,520
>> Thank you, your honor. Again, I'd like

2809
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:46,320
to uh thank the individuals who have

2810
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,119
come up week after week each meeting

2811
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:52,320
that we've had given your opinion.

2812
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,199
But on the other side, I support the

2813
02:05:55,199 --> 02:05:57,199
wisdom that's been presented by council

2814
02:05:57,199 --> 02:06:00,159
tonight. uh it takes a lot of guts many

2815
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:04,320
times for people to think long range and

2816
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:07,440
I think the uh evidence that's presented

2817
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:13,280
by uh the members of council tonight uh

2818
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:17,520
was very very very well presented and uh

2819
02:06:17,520 --> 02:06:20,400
I certainly support moving ahead with

2820
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,360
the project realizing that people are

2821
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:27,119
not going to be totally happy uh as we

2822
02:06:27,119 --> 02:06:28,960
move forward. forward.

2823
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,320
>> Thank you, your honor.

2824
02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,360
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor Upton.

2825
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,320
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Adams. Um, there's

2826
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:39,280
certainly been a lot of uh emotion and

2827
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,840
passion uh spoken about here tonight and

2828
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,239
I won't get into rehashing similar to

2829
02:06:44,239 --> 02:06:46,639
Council Member Bales. Um, you know, a

2830
02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:48,400
lot has been said and I think all of us

2831
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:50,880
took a lot of notes. You know, I heard

2832
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:52,880
tonight obviously a lot of discussion on

2833
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:55,360
Shakertown Road. Uh we talked a little

2834
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:56,800
bit about the religious facility that

2835
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:58,000
was presented tonight and ultimately

2836
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,560
tabled. Uh we heard from about ebikes

2837
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:02,239
and uh something I learned again tonight

2838
02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:04,000
was about the uh drainage issue there in

2839
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,560
Dayton Zena. So I mean when you all come

2840
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,800
forward and speak about these things

2841
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:11,360
that does help us form our opinion. Um

2842
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,560
it helps us do our research. Um so you

2843
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,480
know with all sincerity thank you for

2844
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:22,079
coming out tonight. Um, and you know, I do look forward to hearing more

2845
02:07:22,079 --> 02:07:23,520
because it does bring different points

2846
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:26,800
up. Um, you know, it was said new things

2847
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:28,480
were brought up tonight and some things

2848
02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:30,400
were repeated. So, we will go to the

2849
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:31,920
drawing board and look at some of those

2850
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,400
new things. We will, uh, potentially

2851
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:35,599
talk about some of those things that

2852
02:07:35,599 --> 02:07:38,239
have been repeated. Uh, but again, you

2853
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:40,960
know, having the citizen input is part

2854
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:42,880
of the process, right? None of us would

2855
02:07:42,880 --> 02:07:45,840
be here if we didn't care. None of you

2856
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,040
out there would be here if you didn't

2857
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,199
care. None of us up here would be would

2858
02:07:49,199 --> 02:07:50,880
be here if we didn't care. And that's

2859
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,560
just it. We all care for Beaver Creek in

2860
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:55,520
our community. Much more than just a a

2861
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:56,880
symbol of a beaver that we all

2862
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,360
celebrated at our last meeting. Uh so

2863
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:00,719
with that, I do look forward to more

2864
02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:04,560
dialogue um with everybody um on on any

2865
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,440
of the topics. Um I was going to talk a

2866
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:08,800
little about the popcorn festival, but I

2867
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,560
see it's in the city manager report, so

2868
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,920
I will uh defer to him on that one. Um,

2869
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:15,440
I do want to express a quick thank you

2870
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,679
to the school district. Uh, with school

2871
02:08:17,679 --> 02:08:20,079
coming back in session, uh, school buses

2872
02:08:20,079 --> 02:08:22,400
have been running on time. Uh, my kids

2873
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:24,960
were not excited to go back to school.

2874
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,840
Uh, but, uh, it seems to be, uh,

2875
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,159
everything flowing smoothly with the

2876
02:08:30,159 --> 02:08:31,920
schools and traffic, uh, throughout the

2877
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:34,239
city. So, I'm appreciative of that. Uh,

2878
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:36,239
and I appreciate the police department,

2879
02:08:36,239 --> 02:08:37,360
um, everything they're doing to help

2880
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:39,520
keep everybody safe out there. That's

2881
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:40,560
all.

2882
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:42,719
>> Thank you very much. I too would like to

2883
02:08:42,719 --> 02:08:45,760
thank everybody for coming. Um

2884
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,560
first of all and the young man left but

2885
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:50,639
uh the ebikes and the e-otos there's

2886
02:08:50,639 --> 02:08:52,079
some work being done on ordinances

2887
02:08:52,079 --> 02:08:53,679
throughout where several cities around

2888
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:55,920
the area are working on that because

2889
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:58,079
they are becoming very dangerous. Uh

2890
02:08:58,079 --> 02:09:01,040
I've run into that same situation myself

2891
02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,040
and uh you know we will do something

2892
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:04,719
about that and don't know what that'll

2893
02:09:04,719 --> 02:09:06,880
be at this point. But uh something else

2894
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,760
that was brought up by Councilman Litel,

2895
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:14,000
I spoke with the U Township and there

2896
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:16,639
are projected 1,600 homes being built

2897
02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:20,400
there at the uh Trabine overpass and

2898
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,480
they will be connected probably through

2899
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:24,639
Valley Springs Road to Yellow Brick

2900
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:27,599
Road. And where does that go?

2901
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:30,079
Right on Shaker Town. So I assume we

2902
02:09:30,079 --> 02:09:34,239
these when we look at things,

2903
02:09:34,239 --> 02:09:36,880
you know, I've been here 60 years. I I

2904
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:38,560
look back a lot of good things happened

2905
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,679
in the past, really good things. But a

2906
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:43,360
lot of things have changed in those 60

2907
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:44,960
years.

2908
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:47,360
In the next 60 years, we're going to see

2909
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,079
a lot more. Uh we're going to be build

2910
02:09:50,079 --> 02:09:51,679
out in Beaver Creek one day down the

2911
02:09:51,679 --> 02:09:53,920
road, but the township is still growing.

2912
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:55,199
There's a lot of things happening out

2913
02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:57,360
here. So those are the things that we

2914
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,040
have to look at. We can't say, "Well,

2915
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,520
everything's fine right now." Because if

2916
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,400
we were to stop this project, turn all

2917
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,800
the money back, five years from now when

2918
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:08,480
all this stuff builds out, we have to do

2919
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,199
it again. It'll cost five times as much.

2920
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:13,440
Nothing stays the same. It's it's just

2921
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:16,000
the way it is. Uh and those are some of

2922
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,520
the things that we have to look at. Uh

2923
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:22,719
so with that, I do want to say thank you

2924
02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:26,000
to uh Councilman Bales for bringing up

2925
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:29,599
the high school football team. Uh I was

2926
02:10:29,599 --> 02:10:31,040
there Friday night and I was there

2927
02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:33,199
Saturday and gladly accepted the trophy

2928
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:34,960
back from the mayor of Zenia so I could

2929
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,040
present it to the coach. That's the

2930
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:38,639
first time in five years that we've been

2931
02:10:38,639 --> 02:10:41,040
able to do that. So that was a that was

2932
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,520
a really fun time. Uh, and I know that

2933
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:46,880
uh uh Mayor Reynolds was not happy about

2934
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:49,679
it. In fact, he and I had a little bit

2935
02:10:49,679 --> 02:10:53,599
of a uh a bet going on that I will

2936
02:10:53,599 --> 02:10:55,119
gladly

2937
02:10:55,119 --> 02:10:58,639
accept when he gives me. So,

2938
02:10:58,639 --> 02:11:00,079
with that, I'll turn over to city

2939
02:11:00,079 --> 02:11:02,480
manager.

2940
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:04,400
>> Hey, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Quickly, the

2941
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:07,119
manager's report uh summer entertainment

2942
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:10,880
series will continue free event at a

2943
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:14,320
party on the patio with DJ

2944
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:16,719
August 29th. So that's next Saturday

2945
02:11:16,719 --> 02:11:19,679
6:00 to 9:00 p.m. at the golf club. Next

2946
02:11:19,679 --> 02:11:21,760
one after that, uh party on the golf

2947
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,320
range with Jukebox Apocalypse is

2948
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:27,040
Wednesday, September 23rd, 5 to 8:00

2949
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:28,960
p.m. Come and join these free concerts

2950
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:30,719
and have a good time.

2951
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:32,639
uh town halls. We have two of them

2952
02:11:32,639 --> 02:11:34,639
coming up. Uh first will be September

2953
02:11:34,639 --> 02:11:37,040
15th at the Beaver Creek Senior Center.

2954
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:38,960
These are on finance. This is our third

2955
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,599
year uh doing these. So they've been

2956
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:44,320
informative. September 15th 6 to8 at the

2957
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:46,639
senior center and the second town hall

2958
02:11:46,639 --> 02:11:49,599
will be a month later October 15th 6 to

2959
02:11:49,599 --> 02:11:53,119
8 at the uh golf club.

2960
02:11:53,119 --> 02:11:55,599
Uh our mentioned earlier our offices

2961
02:11:55,599 --> 02:11:58,079
will be closed on Labor Day of course

2962
02:11:58,079 --> 02:12:01,599
and for emergencies uh not emergencies

2963
02:12:01,599 --> 02:12:04,159
contact 911 but for non-emergencies

2964
02:12:04,159 --> 02:12:05,920
something in the road or something of

2965
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,719
that nature uh contact the non-emergency

2966
02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:10,719
number of Beaver Creek Police Dispatch

2967
02:12:10,719 --> 02:12:12,639
937-4261

2968
02:12:12,639 --> 02:12:14,320
1225.

2969
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,560
And yes, Beaver Creek Popcorn Festival

2970
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:18,719
is coming. The city has a tent right

2971
02:12:18,719 --> 02:12:21,119
beside the police tent as well. Uh,

2972
02:12:21,119 --> 02:12:23,280
Saturday, September 12th, 10:00 a.m. to

2973
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:25,280
8:00 p.m. and Sunday, September 13th,

2974
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:28,639
11:00 a.m. to 6 pm. Uh, usually staff

2975
02:12:28,639 --> 02:12:32,000
and and various council members uh staff

2976
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,000
it. This is something that though the

2977
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,840
entire popcorn festival, if you haven't

2978
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,440
ever been there, you're missing a real

2979
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:40,079
treat. Uh, there's a 5K run, art, arts

2980
02:12:40,079 --> 02:12:42,320
and crafts, whole bunch of things. So,

2981
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:44,239
please have a look at that. Uh, Dayton

2982
02:12:44,239 --> 02:12:46,159
Xia Road, I do want to mention, will

2983
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:48,880
close at 4:00 a.m. September 12th and

2984
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:52,239
will reopen at midnight on Monday,

2985
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:56,800
September 14th. So, make be prepared for

2986
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:59,360
that. Uh, festival is not organized by

2987
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:01,440
the city. However, the city and police

2988
02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:04,560
will have booths. So, please stop by.

2989
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:07,119
Shout Park uh fundraiser. Uh, again,

2990
02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:09,199
just want to state this is a continuing

2991
02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:12,560
ongoing so far. for 203 uh donors and

2992
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,400
$19,67

2993
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:17,280
in funds that have raised up to August

2994
02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,400
24th. So, please uh stop by. Uh you can

2995
02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,079
ask about it at the popcorn festival if

2996
02:13:22,079 --> 02:13:25,199
you'd like or online beaver creek.gov

2997
02:13:25,199 --> 02:13:28,000
shout park slide. And that's all I have

2998
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:29,520
tonight.

2999
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,960
>> Thank you very much, Councilman Curran.

3000
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:35,760
Move to adjourn, your honor.

3001
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:36,239
>> Second.

3002
02:13:36,239 --> 02:13:37,840
>> I have a motion and a second to adjurnn.

3003
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:39,599
And all those in favor signify by saying

3004
02:13:39,599 --> 02:13:39,920
I.

3005
02:13:39,920 --> 02:13:40,800
>> I.

3006
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:44,199
>> We are adjourned.