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Good

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evening. I am Mayor Harlow Brown. I call to the order the regular meeting of Beaverton City Council.

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City recorder, please call to the roll. Mayor Brown.

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Here. Mayor Beatty. Here. Councillor Dugger. I'm here.

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Councillor Hart-Mayor Pregn here. Councillor Hussain.

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Councillor Kimmy. Councillor Teter. Councillor Tipton.

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Here, all present. Madame Mayor, thank you for joining us for our

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inaugural Mayor for the day event. Thank you for choosing to come to Beaverton City Council

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and calling tonight's meeting to order. I understand you also wrote a proclamation for

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us this evening. Can you tell us what the proclamation was about?

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Well,

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maybe one of my assistant city councillors could read the proclamation.

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The proclamation.

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Just one moment.

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Do you remember what you wrote about?

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Perfect.

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Okay.

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Do you want to read it?

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I do.

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Okay.

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Can you read it?

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Yeah.

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I can read it.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Brown.

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This is a resolution from the office of the mayor of the city of Beaverton, where as

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the city of Beaverton values the voices of its youth and recognizes the importance of

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engaging young residents in civic life, inspiring leadership and fostering community involvement,

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and whereas Harlow Brown has identified inclusivity and community connections as priorities, reflecting

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a desire to ensure all voices are heard and valued in Beaverton, and whereas listening sessions

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positions provide an effective way to gather ideas, address concerns and foster a sense

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of belonging among community members. And whereas the Mayor Brown's platform includes

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the goal that every community member feel included. Now therefore, I have you read this

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part.

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I, Harla Brown, Mayor of the City of Beaverton, do hereby resolve as follows.

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Section 1, planning. The city shall define the goals of the sessions

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to prioritize gathering feedback and ensuring inclusivity.

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Accessible locations and times shall be selected

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to maximize participation by all residents.

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Broad promotion shall be conducted through multi-lingual

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and multi-channel outreach to ensure all voices

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are invited to the table.

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Section two, execution.

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The city shall facilitate welcoming and inclusive sessions

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by providing interpreters, childcare, and ADA

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compliant spaces.

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Feedback shall be documented accurately

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through approved methods such as note-taking or recordings with consent.

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Dialogue shall be encouraged in a manner that fosters inclusion, trust, and respect for all participants.

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This resolution is effective upon passage and will remain in effect indefinitely.

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Awesome.

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Way to go, Mayor Brown.

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Why don't you take a picture with your city council and me with your certificate and we invite your chief of staff to join us as well.

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Thank you.

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more one two three all right thank you all right

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we are now on to the

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visitor comment portion of our evening as a reminder public comment is an

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essential part of local government and how we operate however in order to

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comply with organs open meeting laws this is not a time for dialogue rather a time

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for us to hear from you if follow up is needed we'll have the city manager and the

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recorder do that. We have one in person testimony, so we'll let them come up to the

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mic first Nicole when you come up to the mic. You'll have three minutes to address the

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city council.

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All right. Hi everyone. I'm here on behalf of SEIU represented employees, which is the

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majority of employees here at the city of Beaverton. We need to urge you to reject agenda

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bill 24142 titled update to management non-rep salary schedules and benefits or at least to delay

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a vote until you can gather more pertinent information.

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For context, this bill is asking the City Council to approve a second raise for management and director level employees who already received a 4% raise on July 1st.

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It appears that the justification for this request is that last week Council ratified the SEIU contract providing a 6% cost of living adjustment for union represented employees.

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Thank you, by the way, we couldn't have gotten there without your support.

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I need to point out a mathematical error in the city's justification for this second raise.

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First, a 6% increase on the average SEIU represented worker salary, which is about $69,000 a year, is a much smaller number than a 6% increase on the average manager salary, which is about $123,000 a year.

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We have difficulty in understanding where the equity lies in that and the good government and fiscal responsibility.

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want to be clear, managers, directors, and classified level staff are our co-workers

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and our colleagues.

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This is nothing personal.

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We absolutely want them to get the money that they deserve.

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However, managers were offered a 4% pay increase during the budget preparation season last spring

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when beavertonians were able to make comment on the budget draft.

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That raise was implemented on day one of the current fiscal year.

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Meanwhile, represented workers began negotiations for a successor contract in January, while managers

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were automatically given this 4% pay increase we were offered a 3% cola.

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Through a no-fall of our own, the negotiation process has taken over 9.5 months, only being

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ratified last week.

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If managers and directors need higher wages, which may be the case, they have the opportunity

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to negotiate that during the budgeting process not by piggybacking off of our hard work.

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work. In fact, they have another opportunity to negotiate a higher raise if needed in the

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upcoming fiscal year session. Meanwhile, represented employees don't have that opportunity. We're

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locked into a three-year contract. We have no ability to change the coal as it will be getting

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in the next three fiscal years. We know the cities in a budget deficit, and I want to be clear

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that that is in no way the fall of the workers. Yet we are the ones threatened with layoff and

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blamed because we are too expensive. The reality is that this second raise for managers

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and directors amounts to $6,639,000.

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That amount would pay the annual salary

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for over nine represented employees.

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Is this a good use of taxpayer money?

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Is this good government?

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Those are questions for you to answer,

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but we believe that this is an example

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of inefficiency and poor fiscal responsibility.

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Please reject or postpone a vote on agenda bill 24142.

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Thank you.

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Our next visitor comment is a remote

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hearing from Maggie Myers for the Climate Action Plan. Is she prepped and ready to go?

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No Madam Mayor, she is not online.

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Okay. With that we are going to move and we just for

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the council we do have five written public comments that came to us as well. Okay we are

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going to move on to the next order of business which is our proclamations. We had our

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There's a couple of recommendations.

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Can you wait this one?

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Councillor Hartmayer-Preg is going to take the first one.

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Okay.

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Proclamation on behalf of the office of the mayor of the city of Beaverton, whereas the

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city of Beaverton is committed to diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging as a fundamental

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aspect of a healthy thriving community, and whereas the heritage and contributions of Native

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Americans help make Oregon economically, culturally, spiritually, and ecologically stronger.

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And whereas the city recognizes that the area currently known as Beaverton rests on native lands and was originally home to the Opphalotti tribe, a band of the Kalapuya who, at present, are part of the confederated tribes of Grand Ron since time immemorial and who call the area Chikapi or place of the beaver.

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And whereas the legacy of colonization, genocide, disease, forced relocation, and a

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ratio has had lasting impacts on the Native American community, and whereas the

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current Native population of Washington County is composed of people belonging to a

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multitude of indigenous nations, and is estimated to be at least 10,437 people, a

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significant figure, but much lower than what it would be had it not been for the

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aforementioned defenses.

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And whereas the city and other institutions have much work to do to repair the history of

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oppression and disenfranchisement of native peoples, and to develop active partnerships

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with tribal nations, government to government, to strengthen Oregon and help build a future

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of hope and promise for all.

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And whereas public institutions in Beaverton should work together to increase the visibility

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of Native Americans and their contributions offering every opportunity to embrace culturally

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significant customs and regalia in public spaces, as well as incorporating Native American

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heritage within public place naming, and whereas the month of November is a time to celebrate

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the rich and diverse cultures to raise awareness about our shared history and to acknowledge

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the important and continued contributions of the Native American community today.

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Okay, now, therefore, on behalf of Lacey Beatty, the mayor of the city of Beaverton, does

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hereby proclaim November 2024 as Native American Heritage Month in the city of Beaverton

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and encourage all residents to observe this month.

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Thank you.

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Okay, our next order of business is the Diversity Advisory Board Certificate and Recognition.

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Do we have the, we're working on it?

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Okay. All right. We need just a minute for that.

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I don't know if we've ever held the room this silent.

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okay. We're going to go old school,

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had to pull up an email. Sorry about that.

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I thought it was printed up here for me tonight.

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Welcome everyone. It is an honor to be here as we celebrate

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what has become Beaverton's most treasured traditions,

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the Beaverton Night Market.

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This evening brings our entire community together,

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showcasing the vibrant diversity that makes Beaverton so awesome and so special.

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Diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging are values that strengthen our city and

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drive our work together.

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For the past 10 years, yep, 10 years, the Beaverton Night Market has embodied these values,

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growing into a celebration of our multicultural heritage and drawing neighbors from all backgrounds.

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sounds.

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To experience a wonderful mix of cultures. Through food, art, music, and connection, the

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night market is where we come together to learn, share, and build lasting bonds. We are deeply

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grateful to the past and present members of the Diversity Advisory Board whose passion

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and dedication have helped shape the night market into the vibrant event it is today. On

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behalf of the city council and the entire Beaverton community, thank you for your contributions

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and making this cherished part of Beaverton life,

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bringing our community spirit to life year after year.

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And we're here tonight because we didn't get to do this

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at the night market this year.

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I mean, it worked out for me because I was on vacation,

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but I heard it was a horrible way to end the evening

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because of the rain and pack it up.

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So we wanted to make sure that we took some time tonight

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to just recognize the deep value that you guys brought to us.

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We do have one of the founding board members

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made us wait a city council, so be careful.

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It's a gateway to public service, as you know.

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but tonight we want to take a photo with you.

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We have some stalls for you tonight.

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I'm an ask the city council to join Jen.

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She's gonna hand you some stuff to hand out.

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We're gonna take some photos and after that,

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we created an opportunity for you guys to fellowship

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in the hallway and get some snacks

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and get your certificates

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and just wanted you to hear from us.

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How incredibly thankful we are

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that you bring your talent and work to the city.

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And while next year is year 11 and not cool as year 10,

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we'll just we'll all join you in a great celebration.

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So thank you.

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about 4 to 500 guests but then 4,000 people showed up I don't know if you remember that time

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and you have been successful events since then.

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It was like the biggest event for the city of Beaverton.

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So I want to congratulate all of you

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and hopefully we can do bigger and better next year.

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Thank you so much.

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And like total bonus points,

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if one of you brings back Dr. Kimmy a tree

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because in fairness, he's quite earned it.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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If we can have the slides up,

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I have five announcements and we'll be brief.

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I move to the next slide.

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So it's that time of the year

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and we have emergency preparedness tips for residents available online so that

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they can be able to be informed about landscaping, to travel, to

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overall safety as winter comes upon us. So we encourage you to go to BeavertonOrgan.gov,

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Backslash Emergency Preparedness, and check out those winter weather tips.

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The next slide, we want to remind folks that we have our leap disposal events that are coming up,

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We're actually ongoing right now.

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As Saturdays through November 30th from 8 to 4,

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you can drop off your leaves at Highland Park Middle School,

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and then also Sunday through December 8th, 8 a.m.

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to 4 p.m. at the Public Works Operations Facility

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that's located on Allen.

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And again, you can get more information

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at beavertonorgan.gov, a lead disposal.

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One of our favorites, it's that time of the year,

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one book when Beaverton.

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So save the date Saturday, February 15th.

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You can spend an evening with the author Diane Wilson at the research and get your complimentary tickets at www.theresearch.org.

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And then we have a really great exhibit at the research again called the Curio.

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This is November 1st through December 30th and you can find more information again here on our website beavertonorgan.gov

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of batch slash beaver 10 arts market.

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And then finally, you may have participated

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in the opening of the new park playground.

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And so the pirate ship of flag is up.

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And special thanks to our public works crews

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who made this happen, we really appreciate that.

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And so the kids have something to play on.

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And then finally, we've got our tree lighting event

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that is Friday, December 6th at 6 p.m.

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So we have to see there.

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All right, thank you.

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We are on to consent.

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And we are pulling agenda two.

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Councilor Dagger pulled 2-4-1-4-2 and 2-4-1-4-3.

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With those as a set aside, I'll take the consent agenda, Councilor President.

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I want to move to approve the consent agenda, excluding those two items.

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Second.

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All right.

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You guys are a little rusty, so that took a little longer than normal.

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It's been moved and seconded in any discussion on tonight's motion.

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Seeing none, will the recorder call the roll?

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Councilor Dagger.

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Yes.

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Yes. Councilor Hart, Mayor Prigg. Yes. Councilor Hassan. Yes. Councilor Kimmy. Yes.

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Councilor Teeter. Yes. Councilor Tidman. Yes. Mayor Beatty. Yes.

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7-0. Okay. With that, we are going to have a discussion on two consent agendas and I do

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have an opening statement for that. Okay. I want to start by expressing my gratitude to our city

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stock, especially our management team. Your leadership and dedication are what keep

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Beaverton moving forward.

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And I deeply value your contributions.

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I also want to acknowledge and appreciate

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the city's manager's work over the last two budget cycles

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to address and close the budget deficit.

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These efforts have not been easy.

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And I know the council and city manager

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have made tough decisions together

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to keep us on track for our long-term fiscal health.

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That said, tonight we are discussing

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the proposed 2% cost of living adjustment

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for management employees.

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While it has been the standard practice to align management COLA increases with union

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COLA increases, I believe we need to carefully consider the context and the long-term implications

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before following this precedent this time.

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Every decision we make must reflect our current fiscal realities, staffing challenges, and

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the overall sustainability of our city operations.

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This year, we are facing a projected $10 million deficit, which the City Manager informed

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the Council of in a memo yesterday.

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This deficit is expected to continue each year until we make structural changes.

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Approving this additional coal at now, while well-intended, could inadvertently undermine our

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ability to address these broader fiscal challenges.

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moreover, we are about to enter negotiations with our police union, approving this

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COLA for management but not the rank and file officers could only create

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disparities but also weaken our position in those negotiations. It is also

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important to note that during union negotiations we were not operating under the

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assumption that we would later be asked to approve an additional COLA for

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management. Over the summer while SEIU negotiations were ongoing, Council was

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asked to approve a 4% COLA for management. Had I known at the time that we'd also be asked for

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another increase, I would have requested a full financial understanding of the broader budgetary

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impacts in that context. We are now facing $639,000 of additional costs this year,

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an amount that will only grow in future years. While the city manager has assured us that this

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increase can be absorbed in this year's budget through vacancy savings and

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understanding. I am deeply concerned about how this cost will impact future budget

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years. Considering of those vacancies to be filled, considering those vacancies

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that we're using to underwrite this will be filled next year. $639,000 is

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equivalent to four to six full-time positions and I'm left wondering how will the

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city manager protect those jobs in the next budget cycle. I want to reiterate

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that while we recognize the hard work and contributions of our management team,

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we must be cautious about the long-term consequences of this decision.

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Management compensation should not be tied just to internal equity,

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but to a fiscal sustainability plan.

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If we improve this increase without fully understanding its implications,

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we risk making decisions today that are going to force painful cuts tomorrow.

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cuts that could affect both the management and union employees alike.

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This is not a precedent I wish for us to set.

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Finally, more of our managers have expressed feeling overworked and underappreciated.

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While I know that compensation plays a part,

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I'm not convinced that COLA alone will address those deeper concerns.

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How can we better support our managers making sure they feel valued

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and have the resources they need to succeed and thrive?

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My goal is to ensure fairness, sustainability, and respect for our employees.

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We need to carefully evaluate this proposal and light of both our current financial challenges

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and our long-term priorities.

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I look forward to hearing from my colleagues and the city manager on how we will continue

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this important conversation.

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In closing, before we move on, I want to summarize the key questions and concerns that I hope

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we discuss tonight.

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long-term fiscal impacts. While the city manager has assured us that this

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year's COLA increase can be absorbed, how do we account for growing costs in

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future budget years, especially giving our ongoing $10 million deficit? Staffing

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implications, the $639,000 increase is four to six full-time employees. How will the

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city manager's plan to protect those jobs in the next budget cycle? A

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negotiation with the police union, how will approving the COLA for management affect our

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position in upcoming police negotiation, especially since police management will now receive

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an increase that far outpaces the rank and file. And how are we going to support managers

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feeling underworked and overappreciated beyond COLA increases, what are additional steps we

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can take to ensure that they feel valued and have the resources they need. These questions

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are critical as we balance fairness and sustainability. I'm confident that working together we can have a

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path forward that addresses these concerns thoughtfully.

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Councillor Dugger.

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Thank you Mayor.

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Once again I am reminded of how uncomfortable it is to talk about compensation. Whether we're talking

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about compensation of Councillors or some of our trusted colleagues. But it's a big but.

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But my job, in fact, job number one of each of us up here, is to represent the voice

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of B-R-10 residents, the only primary thing that we have to do, that is our most essential

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role here.

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So here's some of the facts that I'm thinking about for this discussion.

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As the mayor said, we have a $10 million general fund deficit.

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It will likely be even larger for other funds.

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I'm looking at 638,000 in additional costs this year.

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If we approve this, the floor for wages goes up even higher next year for every subsequent

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COLA after that.

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I'm looking at 16% increases in PERS, double-digit healthcare increases.

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I think about our bonding rate, right, like that's a really important thing, very nerdy

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and for us it's but it's incredibly important it's good right now Beaverton has good

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credit but we have to be good stewards of the money in order for us to keep that

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credit and these are some of the things that are driving my thoughts so those were

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the facts these are the thoughts what are we going to cut to get us get us out

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of this ten million dollar deficit what are we going to cut there's no way we

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contacts are way out of this. We have, we need those reserves, right, that we

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currently have in order to maintain our ability to bond in the future. If we

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have any future plans, we have to have good credit, and in order to have good

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credit, we have to have reserves. Simple as that. Also, how can we just pay for

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this at its most basic answer? If the answer is an operating levy that we're

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going to have to go to the visitors, sorry, the voters, the climate for an

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operating levy will need to show voters that this body that we can be responsible with

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their money, right? This is the, this feels like the opposite of that. Giving people

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an additional raise on top of the 4% coal that they got plus their step increase does

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not feel particularly responsible in this fiscal situation. I spoke with 20 of my neighbors

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actually more than that. Just 20 shared with me and I've been asking people what

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did you get this year? What was your race? About 20 of them shared with me, not a single

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person that I spoke with, not a single person, got more than 3% this year. I don't know

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what each of you are getting. We all have full-time jobs. I'll volunteer mine. I'm getting

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2.5%, not 2.5% plus a cola, not 2.5% raised plus something else that is in.

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Every single person I talk to, the most they were getting in this community, is 3%.

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Social security, just an ounce of 2.5% increase for this coming year, not 4%, not 6%, 2.5%

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So these are the people that are going to have to pay this bill. You have to be really, really careful with this.

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That's bigger than any of our residents that I know of for getting. I think of the incentive structure here. If management automatically gets the raises that the union staff gets, and we empower them to negotiate on our behalf, what incentive do they have to take that fiscal standard?

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right? If I'm negotiating and I know I'm going to automatically get that I'm going to approve

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whatever the highest number I could possibly get because it affects me personally. This is setting

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up the wrong incentive structure and let's be honest here with staff and residents. There's no way

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to close this budget gap, especially in the general fund which is inherently a people fund that doesn't

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involved significant layoffs. I don't want to have that conversation in April. I know

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what it did last year when we had to make difficult decisions on the library that gutted

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me as a human being. I do not want to make that decision this year, and if we keep digging

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this whole deeper, we are going to, like we're already going to have to have a version of

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that conversation and I'm asking you please don't make it worse than we already have. We cannot

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dig that hole deeper. And I understand there's issues with compression. Let me tell you in the

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private sector, this isn't that big of an issue because very few times in my professional career

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have I ever been in a situation where that wasn't a thing. It's very common, right? The reality is

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people management is a specific skill just like any other skill that we pay for. If someone has been

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in their job for a long time and say if people managers knew maybe the team manager should be paid

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glass. We need to look at these on an individual basis, not as a blanket, blanket solution.

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Honestly, that's punting. That's punting and it only gets us one more year because we're

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going to have to have this conversation next year too. And we need to fix these things

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structurally. Finally, to our management employees, I am sympathetic. I wish there was more money

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for this. You all deserve, you know, to be well compensated to have stability in your finances.

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But the real choice for us, and again, I wish it were different.

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We don't get a vote on the things we want to vote, is do we dig this whole deeper, and

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do we pay for it with higher layoffs in April?

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And my answer is uncomfortable as all this is, is no.

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And that's why I'm going to vote no, and I encourage you all to do the same.

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Thank you.

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Councillor Hutt, Mayor Preg.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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I'm just with all the information that we have, and curious when would be the right time

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to have city manager like to share anything additional?

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I'll facilitate that if there's no more opening comments.

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Well, I have a question mostly just about like the legal implications of it, and like if we

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have pay equity issues, or what are, you know, what are the, where are we opening ourselves

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up to liability if we were to not move forward?

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Megan and I had this conversation earlier this week and if you want to let the council know what you told me that's great too.

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Sure. Mayor council, so with regards to legal issues related to this COLA. In the M3 category, you do have a pay equity issue that would be a legal issue if the M3 category of employees were not to receive the same COLA as the SEIU employees.

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And the reason this occurs is because there's some similar job duties that occur in that particular classification

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that would, again, result in pay equity issues.

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You don't have the same problem with pay equity with regards to your M2 classification.

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However, as it has been noted, there are the business issues of compression, retention,

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and just general business management that occur in that category, but pay equity that legal

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issue is limited to the entry category.

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Does anyone have any other legal understanding

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of the legal advice from the attorney? Okay. Any other comments from the council before I ask

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the city manager to address the concerns? Go ahead, city manager. Oh, sorry. Yeah, Councillor

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The class and comp study has that been done as it relates to this conversation.

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Classification is wrapping up but the compensation is not complete.

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So that is another layer and it has fiscal implications that will come before you.

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At some point but we will need to brief the council before that happens.

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Okay, so this is reflective of not having completed the class.

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That is correct work. That is why you continue to have compression.

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Okay. And that we're not at market rate.

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And if we were to guess how many roles are, like, are we looking at all roles for

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Class Cuff right now? It's City Wood.

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Okay.

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Projected amount that we're likely going to have to put into the kicker to address this.

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I have an amount that doesn't include a per's and a health care roundification, which could

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be around in the order magnitude of 1.5, but when you roll that all up, it could be as

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high as 3 billion.

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But again, we're still doing that work.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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So I appreciate the comments and I wanted to clarify that this is being brought before

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you, not as a raise, but to address some of the legal pay equity issues that come with it.

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So that's the one priority.

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The reminder that I think it's important to counsel is that you are advised in executive

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session that this would have ramifications on the organization and this is one of the ramifications

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which is why it's being brought for you for discussion. The attorney mentioned about the pay

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equity issues on M3 so that's really clear that we've got a legal issue there. With respect to

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compression I just want to define for you what that is so that we can go in with the context.

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It's also referred to as wage compression or salary compression. A really great example is when you

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have a long tenured employee that makes less than a new employee when they're doing the

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same work. Pay compression also occurs when salaries between employees do vastly different

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work, but they're extremely close in pay, or that the pay between managers and the employees

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they supervise are incredibly narrow. So when I say narrow, I think 1%, 2% delta between

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the two. So that's how we're defining compression. And then of course at the attorney said there

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There are good business sense and morale issues that go along with this, and I recognize

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that the budget is a consideration.

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And the council also did ask for information with respect to where managers are on top

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step.

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In our executive, we're at about 80% at top step.

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Our middle management is around 62 top step, and then our M3s, which are supervisory level,

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they're around 54%.

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And again, that is the group that has the legal implications.

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You made a lot of comments, I will find out comments about the deficit and about our general

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fund deficit.

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And you are correct.

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It's $10 million.

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And I want to be mindful in this conversation with you that we cannot start talking about

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the budget, outside of the budget development process.

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But I will share some assumptions with you in that $10 million.

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So it does assume that 6% increase for SCIU.

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So, it does make assumptions for BPA because the expectation will be very similar.

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It does make considerations for the 4% that you authorize for management, less the 2%.

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If we wanted to get down to brass tax, your deficit minus 2% before you would be 9.7 just

456
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,920
in the general fund, so just kind of give that context to you.

457
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:09,940
It is important that the numbers, your correct, that the cost is $638,000 across all funds.

458
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:16,100
That number includes the impact of PERS, that number includes the impact of healthcare

459
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,740
increases and other rollups.

460
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,040
Those expenses are not specific to management.

461
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,280
PERS does have implications with salary, right?

462
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,620
So if your salary goes up, so does PERS, so that's important to understand.

463
00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:31,380
but these numbers will run across all employee groups.

464
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,800
So when we do the calculation,

465
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,420
your bargaining groups will also have the same significant hit

466
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:39,600
and these are large massive numbers.

467
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,960
When you look at a 16% increase in COLA across the board

468
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,860
like Councillor Dugger noted,

469
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,040
I do think it's also important to note

470
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,300
that your total hit on the general fund for this COLA

471
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:52,820
is about $379,000.

472
00:38:53,340 --> 00:38:55,480
That's it, we can't absorb that.

473
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,560
I understand the implications of moving forward in subsequent budgets, but again, that

474
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,440
638 is split among funds.

475
00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:09,100
And I had a presentation, but obviously I'm not able to give it to you and it outlined

476
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,440
but it is in front of you.

477
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:16,660
It does outline how the funds are appropriated and you'll see that 60% of the general fund

478
00:39:16,660 --> 00:39:23,620
will receive that 379 and the delta is spread between over 13 different funds.

479
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:29,180
And so, the order of magnitude on those funds is very nominal compared to the general fund.

480
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,620
So again, your eyes on the right prize without the general fund is the most important thing

481
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:34,920
and probably the priority here.

482
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,500
I don't want to dismiss that these are high numbers.

483
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:43,160
But I do want you to understand that these are spread upon a number of different funds.

484
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,160
And so, the impact to those funds, like street fund for instance, or utility funds, is them

485
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,500
on a much smaller scale.

486
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,240
And that's just for information purposes only.

487
00:39:52,240 --> 00:40:08,300
I will say that when we look at making recommendations for budget reductions, without this 2% that you will still be looking at service level reductions, you will still have to consider workforce reductions regardless.

488
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,860
I'm not dismissing that, but that is the case unfortunately.

489
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:18,260
So we can take this on this off the table if that is Council's desire, but we will still

490
00:40:18,260 --> 00:40:23,380
be facing these uncertainties despite whether you decide to approve this or not.

491
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:30,420
I did want to say that we are actively developing, as we did last year, three, five and seven

492
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:36,440
percent scenarios of how we would address different types of reductions across the organization

493
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,880
and preparation for the budget.

494
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,740
Many of these things are going to include a lot of strategies that should be familiar to you.

495
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,820
With or without this COLA, it would involve vacancy eliminations.

496
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:49,080
We would do strategic hiring delays.

497
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,540
We'd also make reductions in professional services.

498
00:40:54,020 --> 00:40:55,200
So those are consultant costs.

499
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,920
We would probably look at travel and training, although we're making every effort to preserve that.

500
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,140
Efficiency measures. A great example would be converting all of your paper distribution to electronic.

501
00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:10,620
riskoping projects and of course better managing your departmental overtime.

502
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:15,000
So the last point I will make and then I would like to provide you a couple of

503
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,260
options as you deliberate before you is with respect to your bond rating. Your

504
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:25,060
deficit is not going to affect your bond rating actually going into the current

505
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:28,800
year and to next year your bond rating will be relatively unaffected and the

506
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,820
reason that is is because bond ratings really are influenced by three things.

507
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:38,320
there are influence by your ability to maintain your reserves by policy, your ability to pay

508
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,560
your debt service, that's the priority, and that supersedes actually all services when

509
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,980
you issue debt. And then the other is to make sure that you balance your budget each year,

510
00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:52,160
and by law you're required to balance your budget. I've confirmed with both the finance department

511
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:59,660
and our rating folks that we are stable, we have a rating of AA1, and we have a rating of AA plus

512
00:41:59,660 --> 00:42:11,540
on our water rates so those something to be proud of and we'll continue into the next fiscal year with those same ratings and then just wrapping up I would like to put a couple of things before you for consideration.

513
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:20,240
I do think you have a couple of options here obviously you can approve the agenda bills you can disapprove the agenda bills those are two.

514
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:27,080
But one consideration too is that you can also look at this if you wanted to explore options of no retro pay.

515
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:34,040
There's about $150,000 across all funds savings and there's about another 91,000 in general fund.

516
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:40,060
You could approve the COLA for just M2s and M3s only and exclude M1s.

517
00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:48,080
That would be a smaller savings but that's about 67,000 across all funds and 48,000 for the general fund.

518
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:54,940
And I would highly urge you to prove at anything at a minimum M3s because there are significant

519
00:42:54,940 --> 00:43:00,160
legal implications associated with that, but I would also urge you to give great consideration

520
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:06,940
to the M2s because compression while maybe common, it is a huge issue in this organization.

521
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,940
And I think that it would potentially result in more turnover, more dissatisfaction, and

522
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:19,120
And we currently have 28 vacancies in the management team across all funds.

523
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,660
I would not want to add to that and that would be my fear because when you rehire, it

524
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:25,460
is far more expensive to do that.

525
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:29,760
And actually I would argue that it is more expensive than this amount that's before you this evening.

526
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,200
I will speak for the executive team that we are more than happy to not take this if that

527
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,780
is what you ask of us just symbolically.

528
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:46,360
I will close in one statement that both myself and probably about a quarter of the team are already voluntarily not taking this raise.

529
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:51,820
This is not the first time that I have not taken a cola, so I just want to say that for the record.

530
00:43:52,160 --> 00:44:00,820
I'm fully aware of the implications of this budget on this community and we'll stand with you and not accept that cola because I understand how important this is.

531
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,360
Thank you.

532
00:44:02,060 --> 00:44:06,920
Can you address the concerns with giving police management cola in your

533
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,440
equity argument with us? You're saying that we should give management across the

534
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,720
Union cola because of equity. How are you reconciling that with the police

535
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:20,880
department? So the police department is a part their command is a part of that M2

536
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:26,260
band if you will so to carve them out outside of that when they're not even

537
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:31,340
related to the BPA negotiations. I don't think that that makes sense. I probably

538
00:44:31,340 --> 00:44:35,640
We would want to hear more from the council on what the concern is of that.

539
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:45,620
I also want to be very mindful our HR directors here to not get into conversations about a potential negotiation that's going to happen, probably in about two weeks or so.

540
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:49,360
So we do need to kind of be careful about that and I see a head nod over there.

541
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:59,280
But you just said we shouldn't consider removing the police union or the police management because they have nothing to do with the negotiation.

542
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:29,900
That is true. So why should we consider giving management the exact COLA that the union got with that same argument and reverse? You're asking me to adopt us to adopt a COLA predicated on what the union got and when I just asked you if we should pull out the police department to wait till the police negotiated, you don't think it's fair for them to wait. I don't think it makes sense, but if that's council's direction, that's fine. This asked before you.

543
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:34,120
So it's not saying that you need to give this same exact call.

544
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:45,080
This is because that 2% that is not being given is raising issues of pay equity, legal issues, and existing compression issues.

545
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:50,640
I cannot make those decisions behind a closed door because I don't have the authority to do it.

546
00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:56,360
But they are ethical issues that I think need to get addressed and this body can do that for us.

547
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,840
So, again, it's whatever council's pleasure.

548
00:46:00,140 --> 00:46:05,120
I don't see the logic in pulling out a specific group that is already in the M2 ban,

549
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,380
but council has discretion to do that this evening if they feel that it would be more

550
00:46:09,380 --> 00:46:10,160
fair to do that.

551
00:46:14,770 --> 00:46:15,990
Any comments from the council?

552
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Councillor Dagger.

553
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:30,740
I guess that just feels not the right solution, because if they're paying equity issues at

554
00:46:30,740 --> 00:46:36,940
low end for individuals, you don't give everyone a raise or an additional

555
00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:42,280
coal. You fix it for those people. And as Councillor Hussain said, you know, we

556
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,760
need those COMP studies and we need all of that in order to fix those issues. If

557
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,840
we just do 2%, we are going to be exactly back here next year having the same

558
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,880
compression issues. And do we do it again? Like we have to fix these things structurally

559
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,840
or we are going to continue spiraling and spinning

560
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,560
and not doing the people's work.

561
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,720
And I understand like this is,

562
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:05,520
again, incredibly uncomfortable.

563
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:07,660
Like I feel like I'm being set up

564
00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:09,900
to be an enemy of management staff.

565
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,880
And I don't like that because I'm not at all.

566
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,780
I very much appreciate my colleagues.

567
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,840
But we need solutions that are real.

568
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:22,860
Not just blanket, give the management the same 2%

569
00:47:22,860 --> 00:47:23,760
that everyone else got.

570
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:31,300
that I need to know amongst that, the M3s, that's the category, like if there's specific

571
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:37,240
is that like two people, is that all of them, because from when I looked at the documentation

572
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:46,180
that was provided to us, the 22 people in M3, the cost of the raise was the same as the

573
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:52,760
11 people in M1, so that tells me there's inequity right there, like it makes perfect sense,

574
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,380
right like people that make more going to make 2% of a bigger number is going to be more

575
00:47:57,380 --> 00:48:04,040
but that doesn't feel equal to me because the conversation is around pay equity and

576
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:10,960
compression. We need to solve that actual problem and not just blow up the whole thing by

577
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,200
giving everyone the same cola to be back here again with the same conversation.

578
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:20,400
Thank you.

579
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:27,400
I keep coming back to the class of compensation study and I know we asked recently on the

580
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,500
mayor asked or Councillor Hassanath when that was going to be completed and or that

581
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:34,380
is it completed.

582
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:35,740
It's like no, it's still in the works.

583
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,400
What's the timeline for that to be completed and is it in the next calendar year?

584
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:44,680
I'm hearing July 1.

585
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,260
July 1.

586
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:56,060
Okay. So 25. 25. Okay. And is that is the what's been the cause of it taking as long as it has?

587
00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:03,160
It's not well, I can ask the HR director to speak on it, but it's not an easy process. It takes a lot

588
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,620
to wield that. The fact that we've gotten through the classification is pretty a Herculine effort.

589
00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:14,200
The compensation is nuanced. We also have to build in all of the coalists that we just made

590
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,500
adjustment and I will tell you that we can add this 2% in and we still have disparity

591
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,460
between groups because we're not at market.

592
00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:25,960
I don't know, Patricia, if you want to clarify a little bit, that's in both of the compensation

593
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,860
piece for them and the timeline.

594
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,780
And I'll have a follow-up.

595
00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:35,640
Thank you very, very quick.

596
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,580
So the classification study takes a long time.

597
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,980
We touch every single classification and we touch every single job description.

598
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:48,300
We compare with our markets, and therefore that requires some detail.

599
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,880
Then we move on to the compensation study, which is a moving target.

600
00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:58,460
Every time the cost of labor goes up, not the cost of living, so we really can't tie

601
00:49:58,460 --> 00:50:01,000
our compensation study to a cola.

602
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,300
We tie it to the cost of labor.

603
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,000
Our cost of labor is driven by what's happening in the city of Vancouver, the city of Portland,

604
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:15,000
City of Eugene banned the sale of the entire I-5 corridor and so it's a moving target.

605
00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:23,140
We did a preliminary review and we found that our jobs range from anywhere from 7% to

606
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:25,820
27% behind market.

607
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,920
So we are currently experiencing a really rough time in talent acquisition.

608
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,860
We're having people tell us that they will not take our jobs.

609
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:38,680
We're having people just ignore our office.

610
00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:41,340
We're having a problem retaining employees

611
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:43,600
because they can get a better author elsewhere

612
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,220
because the cost of labor continues to rise.

613
00:50:48,220 --> 00:50:51,940
As of July 1, the cost of labor as well went up.

614
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,080
We were looking at a January cost of labor number

615
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,940
in July 1, on July 1, we had to adjust.

616
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,800
We recently met yesterday, Monday,

617
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:10,880
We met with the consultant troop HR and we're also grappling with the cost of labor moving.

618
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,700
Our market has always been tight and we've always been behind.

619
00:51:17,180 --> 00:51:23,980
I just want to let you know that we have tried to stay 7% behind the 75th percent out of the market.

620
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,820
So the city of Beaverton has never been ahead of the market in terms of our wages.

621
00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:35,860
what we're really dealing with now is of the inability to offer any kind of

622
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:40,220
salary to persons who are looking to come all the way even at the top step.

623
00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:40,640
The

624
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,260
reason why I asked it is because I think there's a macro issue going on in

625
00:51:50,260 --> 00:51:55,200
this room right now. The first thing is if we didn't have a deficit, if this was

626
00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:01,460
pre-2020 and the economic outlook, the financial outlook was different for the

627
00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:07,620
city, I don't think that there would be as much friction and tension around the compensation

628
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:13,180
conversations that we've had, but it is, it's, talk about compression. That's the theme

629
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:20,420
across the entire organization in every way, shape or form. And so, understandably, emotions

630
00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:27,460
are really high around this. Inflation has kicked a lot of us in the teeth, and smaller

631
00:52:27,460 --> 00:52:35,200
other colas are still something that means something and so I understand all the emotion

632
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,380
around this but the part that I keep coming back to is we have a bigger problem that you

633
00:52:39,380 --> 00:52:45,880
just pointed out that we cannot attract talent. I mean, of course we can and we have incredibly

634
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:52,180
talented people applying for our positions but the net is constrained by the fact that we

635
00:52:52,180 --> 00:52:57,000
We have neighboring municipalities that are offering different compensation and all of

636
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:57,160
that.

637
00:52:57,820 --> 00:53:02,720
And I'm also getting a sense that maybe this class and comp study is, it's lingering

638
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:07,980
out there like hoping conditions will change a little bit before we stamp things down in

639
00:53:07,980 --> 00:53:12,240
place on what we need to be offering because whatever it is, we're not going to be able

640
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:18,300
to afford is what I'm reading between the lines on this, that there's just the only comfort

641
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:20,440
in this is that we're not the only city going through this.

642
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:26,940
I hear routinely about cities all over Oregon, especially up and down that I have corridor

643
00:53:27,340 --> 00:53:32,760
that are having massive deficit conversations a year over year, just like we have, but

644
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:41,700
I think where my head is today is how much of this is symbolic versus addressing the systemic

645
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:48,960
issue that we have with our pay at all levels of the organization and across categories.

646
00:53:48,960 --> 00:54:06,660
And then how much of this is coming down to, no, we had to fight for this and you didn't and just the friction again that can develop when money is so scarce and everyone's hurting.

647
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:16,460
And I'm not saying that I have my opinions fully formulated on this right now, but I'm very curious what the rest of the Councillors have to say about this.

648
00:54:16,460 --> 00:54:21,880
the fact that no matter what we do today, we've got angry residents, we have water rates

649
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,580
to talk about soon, we've got things that are no one is going to be happy about including

650
00:54:27,580 --> 00:54:37,720
us who live here and are paying these costs as well. But is this, what are we trying to

651
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:43,600
accomplish today versus in the long term and what is the real feasibility and likelihood

652
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:50,600
than what we do today is really going to move the needle and move it in a

653
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,960
substantial way that doesn't end up, like you said, coming back to be Groundhog's

654
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,080
Day next year. Councillor Teeter.

655
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,480
Patricia, can you respond before I jump in?

656
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:12,300
I have several responses but I just really wanted to reiterate the point that when

657
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:19,600
When you have compression and we have that with police management as well, you may have

658
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,940
one position that is an 11, another that is a 10, or let's say both of them are 11,

659
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:32,700
but let me take 11 and 10, there are 5% between ranges, ranges, when you get 6%, you just

660
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:38,560
now have given 1% lower to a position that is very similar in work.

661
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:45,920
So, whereas we may have a thin line for legal pay equity, we have an internal pay equity.

662
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:47,520
In fact, we have compression.

663
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:54,980
So we have also some M2s that are doing work that are comparable to SEIU.

664
00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:59,160
The M2s by nature are not over time eligible, not one.

665
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,740
So when you see your events people and your program people working there Saturday, Sunday,

666
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:11,320
nights, they're getting not one dollar more. But if they're working alongside an SEIU employee,

667
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:18,140
that employee is over time eligible. That's one of the points that I wanted to make sure you understood.

668
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:25,680
And that's when we talk about the compression. It's not just compression that is unfortunate.

669
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:32,820
It is dangerous because then what are we going to tell over people? There's a moral issue,

670
00:56:32,820 --> 00:56:38,980
there's a retention issue, the cost of hire is going to be approximately three months of any salary

671
00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:45,040
that you pay, the cost of hire, and then we talk about the loss of productivity. So we do have a

672
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,440
morale on a retention issue in this city, and we also have a reputation issue. We're getting cheap.

673
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:59,140
So I just wanted you to hear that. The city manager has explained how we would recover from what

674
00:56:59,140 --> 00:57:06,020
this offered. I am very aware of the impacts. I did tell you twice that this would have

675
00:57:06,020 --> 00:57:13,780
impacts. We really wanted to hold tight on that 4%. And we didn't. And so there are

676
00:57:13,780 --> 00:57:19,220
impacts that are in front of us, and I can't deny them. I see them. I see that the sheets,

677
00:57:19,420 --> 00:57:25,160
I see the ranges, I see that the classifications, and most of all, I see the employees who are

678
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,840
impacted. And as the city manager says this is not about the department heads. We're here on behalf

679
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:36,600
of the people who have to do this work alongside others who earn more than them or close to them

680
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:43,160
and they're not all the time eligible. I appreciate your statement but I do want to push back that

681
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:49,640
telling us twice versus giving us the solution very different. Telling us that this could be a problem

682
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,900
versus presenting a solution that would have prevented a strike would have been helpful in that moment.

683
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,500
So I want you to just tread carefully on where you're shifting the blame right now because

684
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:04,160
it's coming across like you told us to make a decision and that was not true.

685
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:08,300
You informed us that causing this union could cause inequities.

686
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,280
We did not talk in that room about giving it unilaterally to every person in this organization.

687
00:58:13,780 --> 00:58:18,320
We're constantly asked to make decisions with partial information and this is one of those

688
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:18,740
moments.

689
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:21,480
The council is trying to reconcile that right now.

690
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,100
and if we are a chief organization, we have repeatedly asked you for a class in comp study.

691
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,280
Nowhere in the private sector would it create an entire year to do that?

692
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,780
We want to fix the problem, but you're not giving us a solution.

693
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,720
You're telling us where the problem again, Councillor Teeter.

694
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,440
Okay, we keep talking about structural fixes and how important that is for this part of the process.

695
00:58:47,740 --> 00:58:49,360
My answer will be grounded in that.

696
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,020
So, a year and a half ago, we were in budget committee and I made an attempt to

697
00:58:54,020 --> 00:58:58,040
an amendment that would have reduced management salaries from 5 percent to 3 percent.

698
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,100
It failed for a variety of reasons.

699
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,820
One of those being the rest of budget committee felt that it was not a structural fix because

700
00:59:06,820 --> 00:59:09,320
we would have to increase those salaries again in the future.

701
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:14,440
And I feel like we're having that same conversation right now where we're proposing not giving

702
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:21,160
a cola to, or not giving cola to a certain amount because it's not a structural fix.

703
00:59:21,380 --> 00:59:25,800
But we'll just have to face this again down in the road anyways, we'll have people who

704
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,240
don't want to come work for us, people who leave to go work elsewhere.

705
00:59:29,820 --> 00:59:34,860
And that replacement cost of recruiting and hiring and onboarding is very, very expensive.

706
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,060
And I don't want to have to go through that for department heads over and over again or

707
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:40,140
different levels of management.

708
00:59:41,140 --> 00:59:43,720
And so I know this is a really difficult decision for us.

709
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:54,540
This is why it came before us to make this decision because we ran for office to be in this position to make the hard decisions and to give approval or not for this sort of conversation.

710
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,480
So staff can't make this on there and this should fall on us and it is.

711
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:31,360
But I do mean in support of it because of these reasons and the structural fixes. And I'm going to stop there. I this is really this really difficult conversation, but I think we need to have it. Councillor Kimmy. So I considered all the positions and people's you guys thinking and the process that but for me personally, I like to keep the people we have. Instead.

712
01:00:32,380 --> 01:00:37,840
and they didn't leave us during the COVID or this financial hardship, I think all the staff

713
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:46,300
and everybody knows how much deficit we have and they're willing to work with us and so far

714
01:00:46,300 --> 01:00:51,620
through the COVID, through all this time to dedicate their time. All the people that I meet usually

715
01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:58,920
at the events and outside are managerial positions and there's SEI staff obviously and I do like to

716
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,400
compensate them. We cannot offer to pay the market rate, but then at least the minimum

717
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,540
that we could do, I think that goes far as a messaging wise. Even though I understand

718
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:16,600
the deficit that we have, but I would love, I like the option too on this, that would

719
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:17,860
get the ball moving.

720
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,260
It's not minimal impact, but it's less impact than any other.

721
01:01:28,340 --> 01:01:28,900
If that's

722
01:01:29,940 --> 01:01:34,740
And then let motivated the people to take their time to work here.

723
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:40,780
I like to propose that I'm leading to number two on the proposal.

724
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:48,760
But what that is, yeah, consider option to maybe two, four, one for two and a man,

725
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,360
maybe two, four, one for three.

726
01:01:51,260 --> 01:01:58,420
So it does no retro pay effective in November 19, 2024, salary savings of 105,000 across

727
01:01:58,420 --> 01:02:08,340
all funds, salary savings of 46,000 in general fund, benefit saving of 152,000 and 91,000

728
01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:14,400
in general fund, and approved 2% quota for M2 and M3 only, not M1, so that's going

729
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:21,220
to salary saving of 47,000 and 33,000 for a general fund. So all combined benefits and

730
01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:26,360
saving salary 67,000 across all funds and 48,000 per general fund.

731
01:02:27,260 --> 01:02:34,260
So this is much less than full approval of everyone getting full adjustment, but at

732
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:42,300
least we can end this conversation and get us moving until we address the structure issue

733
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:45,080
that's what I'm thinking right now.

734
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:46,860
Councillor Hartmeyer, Greg.

735
01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:49,660
Thank you.

736
01:02:49,660 --> 01:02:56,500
So I guess I read A and B as separate, you're asking us to do both.

737
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,020
I guess I read it as two separate options.

738
01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:04,170
You could do the both though.

739
01:03:04,590 --> 01:03:05,210
But we could do the both.

740
01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:07,410
But is that what you're looking to do both?

741
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:08,290
Okay.

742
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:08,990
Thank you.

743
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:10,070
I just want to clarify that.

744
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:18,890
I just want to say that I hope that all of us in the room, and I know that all of us in the room,

745
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:21,170
are here because we are a part of Team B for 10.

746
01:03:21,170 --> 01:03:25,250
and I hate how adversarial this feels right now

747
01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:27,450
because I don't think that that's the intention

748
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:30,130
of anyone and I think that when I think

749
01:03:30,130 --> 01:03:32,150
about our fiscal and fiduciary responsibility

750
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:36,670
to the city while there's like this like $600,000

751
01:03:36,670 --> 01:03:37,850
right in front of us right now,

752
01:03:37,850 --> 01:03:41,930
there is like that larger impact of losing talent,

753
01:03:42,330 --> 01:03:44,670
losing talent in this room potentially

754
01:03:44,670 --> 01:03:49,090
that I take to be part of my financial responsibility

755
01:03:49,090 --> 01:03:55,450
to the city. And this is really hard and I do think that I understood that we would have

756
01:03:55,450 --> 01:04:00,150
consequences because it's all interplays and it's fascinating to hear that the cost

757
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:04,570
of labor is less moving target. Like this is not part of my professional life so I don't,

758
01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:11,450
you know, I feel like I've learned a lot just in today's conversation and also, you know,

759
01:04:12,110 --> 01:04:18,730
we have been like this council is, we're young and we're all post-COVID or in COVID and so

760
01:04:18,730 --> 01:04:23,730
dealing with a lot of hard things. And I think Beaverton has typically had more abundance, right?

761
01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:31,610
And because of that, weathered COVID well, right? Really invested in keeping and retaining folks

762
01:04:31,610 --> 01:04:37,830
through and not having to go to layoffs and investing in our community to like lead to this thriving

763
01:04:37,830 --> 01:04:42,850
local economy, or maybe it's not quite thriving right now, I know things are tough, but just that

764
01:04:42,850 --> 01:04:45,250
like we have this vibrant community as part of it.

765
01:04:45,370 --> 01:04:50,790
And so for me, I could get on board,

766
01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:52,330
comes for me with your recommendation.

767
01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:55,730
It is important to me that we retain staff

768
01:04:55,730 --> 01:04:59,890
that we avoid illegal equity issue with our M3 folks.

769
01:05:00,450 --> 01:05:04,510
The people know that while pay is not the only thing,

770
01:05:04,650 --> 01:05:05,690
I think it's a very fair mayor

771
01:05:05,690 --> 01:05:07,390
that is, pay is not the only thing

772
01:05:07,390 --> 01:05:08,650
that tells someone they're appreciated.

773
01:05:08,650 --> 01:05:16,630
It also is extremely helpful when costs are going up to have a little bit more to help with your bills.

774
01:05:17,090 --> 01:05:23,250
So Councillor Kimi, I would be in support of option 2 as well and doing both AMB.

775
01:05:24,210 --> 01:05:30,690
I appreciate that and I'll say I am not in support of M1 salary and no retro for 2 and 3.

776
01:05:30,930 --> 01:05:38,470
I'm 100% on board for 3 but I think we need to reject the notion and stop normalizing that when we ask for something it should take a year.

777
01:05:38,830 --> 01:05:46,030
It's not normal for a class in comp study to take this long, zero chance the private sector would take this long because it has to do with hiring.

778
01:05:46,570 --> 01:05:54,750
And if you're telling me it's a morale issue and you're telling me it's a way to fix it, I need you to put your time where you just set a cross from me and said it was.

779
01:05:55,010 --> 01:06:00,050
And if you, I will not, I don't want to support anything besides M3 until I get a class in comp study.

780
01:06:00,050 --> 01:06:07,170
I'd rather take this $697,000 and address the actual problem, knowing that we're going

781
01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:11,150
to have two to three million dollars more, because I also think it's unfair to suggest

782
01:06:11,150 --> 01:06:15,350
that every position in this organization is not at market.

783
01:06:15,710 --> 01:06:16,790
That's absolutely not true.

784
01:06:17,570 --> 01:06:21,150
And so it's hard for me to make a decision, absent of information.

785
01:06:21,290 --> 01:06:25,190
If you're telling me everyone's under market, and if I go back and ask, you're going to produce

786
01:06:25,190 --> 01:06:26,650
a document that suggests otherwise.

787
01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:32,590
We're asking, you're asking us, again, to make an incredibly tough conversation or

788
01:06:32,590 --> 01:06:34,730
decision without the full information.

789
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:40,670
I think the very least we should recess this conversation to have more information brought

790
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:47,270
to us, because I don't think a 2% COLA is going to impact morale if we don't fix the overtime

791
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:48,490
problem you're suggesting.

792
01:06:48,970 --> 01:06:53,630
If we have so much overtime of our management that they can't function, it's creating compression,

793
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:58,930
What's our plan to mitigate and manage over time in the police and all these other union jobs?

794
01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:05,250
You're not giving me a solution. You're giving me another problem to solve and you're asking the council to solve a problem

795
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:06,390
We're not skilled to solve

796
01:07:07,110 --> 01:07:07,950
Councillor Hassan.

797
01:07:12,380 --> 01:07:16,600
I have a question and then I can share some of my comments and thoughts

798
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,360
and I know you were sharing that a lot of our roles are behind

799
01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:25,760
I do believe that some of our roles are not behind like would like

800
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,980
I'm getting the impression that we're not competitive at all

801
01:07:29,980 --> 01:07:32,580
and I just don't believe that across all of our roles

802
01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:33,900
unless you say so.

803
01:07:34,460 --> 01:07:35,680
So I guess if you could elaborate,

804
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:37,940
like do you think every single one of our roles

805
01:07:38,420 --> 01:07:39,820
is truly behind in market?

806
01:07:41,220 --> 01:07:42,940
Not every single one.

807
01:07:43,340 --> 01:07:46,640
We have actually come to you throughout the course

808
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,600
of the last couple of years for reclassifications

809
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,740
and those would typically be at market now.

810
01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:59,600
And that's why we would have asked for reclassifications because they were horrendously behind.

811
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:06,020
I also want to address that the question was asked of me, and I may have misunderstood it.

812
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,320
And I take responsibility for that if I did.

813
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,460
But the Class Comps Study, we aim to have that effective in July 1.

814
01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:16,260
That Class Comps Study is being wrapped up right now.

815
01:08:16,900 --> 01:08:19,820
So it's not taken us a year to do the Class Comps Study.

816
01:08:19,820 --> 01:08:25,100
I was proposing to the city manager that we do not enact anything on the classical study

817
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:27,760
onto July 1, and that it goes through the budget process.

818
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,380
So I answered the question from this side about when will that be effective, and I said

819
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:33,940
July 1.

820
01:08:34,900 --> 01:08:37,320
So I just want to make that very, very clear.

821
01:08:37,620 --> 01:08:39,080
We are wrapping up that study.

822
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:47,720
We actually had to take a turn about a month ago because of the cost of labor shifted dramatically.

823
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:54,340
and they consulted and advised us to update our numbers and to wait until the

824
01:08:54,340 --> 01:08:59,260
colas were applied because we were really behind the market because the

825
01:08:59,260 --> 01:09:05,160
cost of labor had shifted away from us. Okay Jenny you had read some

826
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:10,720
percentages around like M1, M2, M3. Can you restate those numbers and just tell me

827
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:11,900
the data point behind them?

828
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,960
Yes, this was information that Councillor

829
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:24,260
requested. So there are approximately 11 staff and M1 and they're at 80% top

830
01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:35,340
step, M2, 142 at 62% top step, and M3 there are 22 and 54% top step. And top

831
01:09:35,340 --> 01:09:39,740
step is the top of. Meaning that they're at the top of their range and so any

832
01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:44,540
other increase would come as a result of a COLA and we don't have bonuses or

833
01:09:44,540 --> 01:09:46,600
things like that. So they're locked in.

834
01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:51,570
I'll just share some thoughts.

835
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,900
Well, let me ask one more question because I'm thinking of the testimony that was shared,

836
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:04,480
and I should know this and I apologize. It is a common that we do the percent that

837
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:07,460
the union gets to management. Is that normal?

838
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:15,740
That is been the practice here, but as the mayor said, the council authorized the 4% and

839
01:10:15,740 --> 01:10:21,140
And at that same time, that 4% was authorized, up to 4% was authorized for SCIU.

840
01:10:21,580 --> 01:10:25,320
It wasn't only subsequent to that conversation that it went up to 6.

841
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,580
And then we are like, hey, we might have some issues and here we are.

842
01:10:29,300 --> 01:10:29,420
Okay.

843
01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:32,080
So I'm just going to say it.

844
01:10:32,180 --> 01:10:36,660
This is really uncomfortable because we're talking about people's money and we're sitting

845
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:40,920
in front of the people who do the good work for our city and that makes it really hard.

846
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,500
I am thankful that Councillor Teeter brought up that moment because I remember that moment

847
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:51,660
of us seeing if there was a way to do a different raise to try to start addressing some

848
01:10:51,660 --> 01:10:58,260
of these issues. And so, you know, here we are needing to address these issues. While I

849
01:10:58,260 --> 01:11:03,140
am continuously gravely concerned around our budget and constantly talking with anyone

850
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:12,580
than everyone who will listen, I don't feel that our management staff should have to take

851
01:11:12,580 --> 01:11:18,080
the brunt of that right now. I want to take a moment and acknowledge it sounds like

852
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:25,140
a lot of M1 staff are offering to potentially forego and or not take it. I want to just

853
01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:31,540
say that I see them and I value that and I appreciate it. That's a big ask. I am concerned

854
01:11:31,540 --> 01:11:35,420
for that M2 and M3 staff in terms of making sure that folks are in the right place.

855
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,280
But I also want to be thoughtful of the comments that SEAU has made today.

856
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:47,940
I am comfortable supporting option two, which Councillor Kimi suggested. My concern or ask would be

857
01:11:48,460 --> 01:11:57,040
that we continue to have more open conversations like this. And I know we can't talk about budget,

858
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:02,660
but like things that are going to be related to budget because there are policy decisions that

859
01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:09,800
in my four years the budget has made without us always being able to weigh in in this form of

860
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,360
government and that's what I've really struggled with is that there is so much that we've just

861
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:19,120
sort of let continue to exist because it's been excellent and great but we have never really

862
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:25,480
assessed it to some of our priorities and values and I say that struggling because I really see

863
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:32,340
all the sides, but I just today, in this moment, I don't know that it is the right choice

864
01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:38,520
to just do this, but that I ask that we continue to have these conversations and that Jenny

865
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:44,480
continues to feel like she can bring them here so that we are not stocked with decisions.

866
01:12:48,140 --> 01:12:48,680
Councillor Dugger.

867
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:54,100
I want to make one more comment because I've heard a couple times people talk about retention.

868
01:12:54,100 --> 01:13:02,420
There's actually one option here where we 100% know we will lose staff, and that is supporting this cola.

869
01:13:03,580 --> 01:13:11,640
Okay, this is going to cause six or seven of your colleagues to lose their job in April of next year.

870
01:13:11,740 --> 01:13:13,760
All things being equal. This is the truth.

871
01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:20,400
So, like we're talking about theoretical versus real. One of these is real.

872
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:27,380
100% sure we are whatever positions however many it ends up being and none of us know what that is

873
01:13:27,980 --> 01:13:29,420
Whatever that ends up being

874
01:13:29,980 --> 01:13:34,220
Six of them could have been saved because of this vote. So I just want you to think about that

875
01:13:34,220 --> 01:13:42,920
There's one way 100% of this eliminates talent at this city. There's one that the other option is we think about it from a theory

876
01:13:44,260 --> 01:13:45,720
also one thing we

877
01:13:46,220 --> 01:13:46,700
like

878
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:50,240
Like, as those of us in the private sector too, I have my full-time job.

879
01:13:50,620 --> 01:13:57,000
The benefit structure is incredibly different with purrs versus a 401k versus a 403b.

880
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:02,920
So we have to look at compensation as a total and in this institution pays 100%.

881
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,100
We don't ask our employees.

882
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:04,820
Is that correct?

883
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:05,720
Can you remind me?

884
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:10,120
We do not ask our employees to pay any, and that is an incredibly rich benefit.

885
01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:12,140
I'm very proud that we can offer that.

886
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:14,540
We have to look at the total compensation.

887
01:14:14,540 --> 01:14:16,200
So I think it's a little more complicated.

888
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:21,580
I think the further some willing to go, because again, we are going to have these conversations

889
01:14:21,580 --> 01:14:28,880
in April, is I would be willing to accept the caller for this 6%, so the 2% additional

890
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,080
for the M3, with the promise that we get this study right away.

891
01:14:33,780 --> 01:14:40,500
Like we needed in our hands to make, and I could commit to future conversations on M2 with

892
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:45,540
that study that that's as far as I'm willing to go because I'm gonna we all are

893
01:14:45,540 --> 01:14:49,800
gonna have to take this back to the voters into our residents and justify why

894
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:55,120
there's why their social security is going up 2% but staff you know we're

895
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,680
giving them an additional 2% on top of the 4% on top of the step increase so just

896
01:14:59,680 --> 01:14:59,980
I just want you to...

897
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,620
I want to think really long and hard about this. Councilor Tidalan, before we wrap up and I summarize, I think where we are, I need to hear where you are.

898
01:15:11,410 --> 01:15:29,650
I think this goes down as being the hardest decision. I've had so far on council. I'm not in favor of, well, okay, well, I'd say at an absolute minimum, it has to be M3. For all the reasons that our interim city attorney mentioned.

899
01:15:29,650 --> 01:15:38,270
But I am not in favor of only M2 and only M3 and extracting out M1 because the cost savings

900
01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:43,050
there seems negligible and the symbolism of it is so powerful and I don't like that.

901
01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:50,070
I also am extremely eager to get the class in comp study.

902
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:56,310
I need more information I think that's been said a couple times is we're up here making

903
01:15:58,230 --> 01:16:04,250
slaptash decisions feels like with not a lot of runway to come up with something that

904
01:16:04,250 --> 01:16:14,110
feels really good and sound structurally sound. So I would love to hear more about what

905
01:16:14,110 --> 01:16:22,190
it looks like to approve M3 and revisit this. Is that even possible to do that?

906
01:16:22,190 --> 01:16:23,730
it is possible to do that.

907
01:16:26,050 --> 01:16:28,930
I'm trying to think of, you want a motion?

908
01:16:31,130 --> 01:16:32,590
I'm trying to, I don't want

909
01:16:32,590 --> 01:16:35,950
somebody to just jump in and get what they want here. I want us to try to have a compromise because

910
01:16:35,950 --> 01:16:42,630
this is challenging. So there's a few of us that want to just do M3 to summarize.

911
01:16:51,770 --> 01:16:52,170
You want to give

912
01:16:52,170 --> 01:16:59,030
The agenda bill as written I'd be willing to this councillor Kimmy was mentioning and I was in concertive none

913
01:16:59,850 --> 01:17:02,230
Going with no retro pay and potentially

914
01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:10,670
Just raises for M2 and M3 so that'd be my compromise there. So you want to get Cola to M2 M3 and no retro

915
01:17:15,930 --> 01:17:20,550
You want to give Cola to M2 M3 no retro. I am very open to

916
01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:25,850
The discussion around M3 only and getting more information to

917
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:33,570
Like where can we get the systemic piece of this? I thought that was really poignant the way you said that

918
01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:41,250
So I'm open to the M3 only conversation because I don't want to put like a legal risk there

919
01:17:42,150 --> 01:17:48,350
The class and comp critical to get it soon. So like for me getting more information will be helpful

920
01:17:48,350 --> 01:17:53,390
Mm-hmm, and to Councillor Hussain's point like there's there's so much more than just like this

921
01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:58,670
this piece of the compensation conversation that I think, you know, like that it's hard to not think about that.

922
01:17:58,670 --> 01:18:00,290
It's hard to make a decision in a vacuum.

923
01:18:00,670 --> 01:18:14,430
So, you want to have a conversation about M3 only, and you want to give cola to everyone, because you don't want to pull out, ask M1 to make it to give their, up their cola, you want to prove it for everyone, that's what I'm hearing.

924
01:18:14,770 --> 01:18:23,290
Okay, well there's four of us for the M3 discussion, so we're going to move forward with that, but I want to have a thoughtful conversation about what information

925
01:18:23,290 --> 01:18:27,150
information do we need to include into in a future round of discussion?

926
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:29,890
We're trying to meet the legal risk that the city attorney told us.

927
01:18:30,450 --> 01:18:34,050
And we're trying to mitigate and make good decisions for mid-level management.

928
01:18:34,370 --> 01:18:36,130
And I hope that is what is coming across.

929
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:39,950
But often city councils are saying, well, it's your choice.

930
01:18:40,230 --> 01:18:41,550
None of us are pay experts.

931
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:45,910
We're trying to make the best decisions we can with the information, but there is holes in this information.

932
01:18:46,510 --> 01:18:49,990
We can't pass a cola without understanding what the class and

933
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:55,530
comp is to everyone else. We on this council want to fix the class and comp of our management.

934
01:18:55,710 --> 01:19:00,250
If we are going forward to have to do a levy, we need the full information and we're

935
01:19:00,250 --> 01:19:08,490
piecemilling it together. So I think where we're at is a to approve tonight the M3 pay

936
01:19:08,490 --> 01:19:14,430
cola and for us to have a future conversation about the class and comp. And I think it's

937
01:19:14,430 --> 01:19:19,090
vital for us to have that ahead of the budget. That to me is the most important thing we do

938
01:19:19,090 --> 01:19:22,670
So, because if you guys are talking about the budget right now, absent of this class

939
01:19:22,670 --> 01:19:28,810
and comp information that is potentially two to three million dollars, we can't make

940
01:19:28,810 --> 01:19:30,190
a budget decision like that.

941
01:19:30,430 --> 01:19:35,190
So whatever it takes for you to get this done, we need a class and comp study that we can

942
01:19:35,190 --> 01:19:40,290
react to, that we can implement or approve so it can be wrapped into this year's budget.

943
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:45,470
And the speed of which you do it will help us support you in the mid-level staff.

944
01:19:46,190 --> 01:19:47,770
Does that seem like a fair compromise?

945
01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:48,610
Yeah,

946
01:19:51,610 --> 01:20:16,030
but I just wanted to yeah, yeah, yeah, total compensation and so how fast you can give us that information is how fast we can make a decision about M2s and potentially M1s before the budget, but absence of that information, you're asking us to make an isolated decision that puts us at risk and it's going to be hard for the budget decision and we're allowed to talk about the budget.

947
01:20:16,030 --> 01:20:27,550
We just can't deliberate about how we're going to fix the problem and we need solutions to us and when you bring information to council that puts it out our feet without information, you can expect us to make a decision like this.

948
01:20:28,210 --> 01:20:30,390
So I think if there was a motion to be had.

949
01:20:32,690 --> 01:20:41,250
In terms of attorney, can I have a little process help like would it be helpful to recess and put together an articulate motion here because I could try but I just don't know if I would mess it up.

950
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:41,930
Is that okay with you?

951
01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:43,910
So, that's fine.

952
01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:47,650
All right, let's take a five minute recess and if you could help, heard.

953
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:09,880
So, Interim to City Attorney, please correct me if I misspeak, but I think we've got this.

954
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:18,680
So, I move that we amend agenda bell 24142 to include a 2% cost of living adjustment for

955
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,320
management category 3 that includes the additional benefits and

956
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:32,960
allowances for the M3 category and we amend a agenda bill 2, 4, 1, 4, 3 to reflect in the

957
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,740
salary schedule the M3 category only changes.

958
01:23:37,860 --> 01:23:38,440
I'll second that.

959
01:23:45,610 --> 01:23:50,810
Yes, I know that this is an effort for compromise but the previous option that Councillor Kimi

960
01:23:50,810 --> 01:23:57,150
has shared was the compromise for me I would like to include M2 so I'm not going to vote

961
01:23:57,150 --> 01:23:57,770
yes on this.

962
01:23:57,770 --> 01:23:58,650
I

963
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:12,560
just want to reiterate the council's position, is that we're open to a discussion on adjustment,

964
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:19,080
given information about class and comp, and so we want to set this piece to come back

965
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,160
to us, but we need that information to do it.

966
01:24:21,420 --> 01:24:27,700
So the faster that's wrapped up, the faster we can consider that, I do want to say it is

967
01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:34,660
our expectation that we have this information ahead of the budget, and it's very clear from

968
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:37,240
us that we want this information ahead of the budget.

969
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:44,040
We want to fix the structural issues with our managers, we want to make sure that we are a competitive city and we need that information.

970
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:49,280
So whatever you need to do to accomplish what we're asking you, that is the direction we're giving from the Dias tonight.

971
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,400
With that, will the recorder call the roll?

972
01:24:56,310 --> 01:24:57,130
Councillor Dugger?

973
01:24:57,390 --> 01:24:57,570
Yes.

974
01:24:58,510 --> 01:24:59,850
Councillor Hartmeyer Prick?

975
01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:00,250
Yes.

976
01:25:00,650 --> 01:25:01,330
Councillor Visson?

977
01:25:01,890 --> 01:25:02,050
Yes.

978
01:25:02,910 --> 01:25:03,730
Councillor Kimmy?

979
01:25:04,030 --> 01:25:04,210
Yes.

980
01:25:05,210 --> 01:25:06,090
Councillor Teeter?

981
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:06,610
No.

982
01:25:07,530 --> 01:25:08,550
Councillor Tivmone?

983
01:25:09,010 --> 01:25:09,290
Yes.

984
01:25:10,410 --> 01:25:10,930
Mayor Beatty?

985
01:25:11,130 --> 01:25:11,330
Yes.

986
01:25:11,690 --> 01:25:12,730
6-0-1.

987
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:14,010
All right.

988
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,240
One of clarification, 6-1-0.

989
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:22,200
Sorry.

990
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:22,680
Okay.

991
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:24,900
6-1-0.

992
01:25:27,700 --> 01:25:28,320
Thank you.

993
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:29,400
All right.

994
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:31,380
So now we're on to our first presentation.

995
01:25:31,380 --> 01:25:34,500
We have our first reading and three work session.

996
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,260
Our first presentation and I is agenda bell 2-4-1-4-6.

997
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:40,500
A Beaverton Street mural program.

998
01:26:01,150 --> 01:26:01,390
Okay.

999
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:02,490
Good evening.

1000
01:26:02,910 --> 01:26:03,570
Council and Mayor.

1001
01:26:03,570 --> 01:26:11,310
My name is Kara Hall and I'm the Assistant City Transportation Engineer and I'm here this evening to share with you the Beaverton Street Mirile Program.

1002
01:26:11,870 --> 01:26:19,410
So this is a program that we've heard a lot of interest to have in place both internally and from our community members.

1003
01:26:19,710 --> 01:26:26,470
So we're really excited to be in front of you this evening as we target roll out of this program in early 2025.

1004
01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:35,020
So, I'll start with a quick background on why we're bringing street murals forward

1005
01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:38,860
in the form of this program, talk a little bit about the guidelines and requirements,

1006
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:47,100
and then wrap up with any questions or clarifications that you all need, and also asking for thoughts

1007
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:50,860
from you as we think about opportunities as we look to roll this out early next year.

1008
01:26:53,530 --> 01:26:54,550
Why street murals?

1009
01:26:54,610 --> 01:26:56,690
And before I get into the why, I'll start with what?

1010
01:26:56,690 --> 01:27:01,410
But by street murals we literally mean a mural that's painted in our public streets.

1011
01:27:02,430 --> 01:27:06,670
And the reason that we're bringing this forward is because the city already supports the

1012
01:27:06,670 --> 01:27:12,670
use of murals in our public spaces to tell stories and beautify those spaces.

1013
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:17,170
And this is an opportunity to expand that to our transportation system.

1014
01:27:17,890 --> 01:27:22,250
This will provide our community members with an opportunity to contribute to developing

1015
01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:27,590
a sense of pride in identity and their neighborhood, and it's being brought forward this evening

1016
01:27:27,590 --> 01:27:31,290
by Transportation Engineering with collaboration from ARTS.

1017
01:27:34,090 --> 01:27:38,850
So the program guidelines, so as I mentioned, it's really designed to empower community members

1018
01:27:38,850 --> 01:27:44,930
to build that sense of identity within their neighborhoods. Staff will support that process through

1019
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:51,010
technical review, but the applicant will drive the rest of the process. So that means talking with

1020
01:27:51,010 --> 01:27:55,850
their neighbors about a neighborhood's interest in having a mural, coming up with the design,

1021
01:27:56,430 --> 01:28:00,890
moving through the application process and all the way through installation.

1022
01:28:01,210 --> 01:28:06,410
So those components of the program will be on the applicant themselves, but city staff

1023
01:28:06,410 --> 01:28:09,090
will be there to support them through the entire process.

1024
01:28:10,010 --> 01:28:15,350
This program will require approval by transportation engineering, and I'll speak to some of the engineering

1025
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:20,230
components of this in just a minute, as well as by the Public Art Selection Committee.

1026
01:28:20,230 --> 01:28:24,750
and that is related to the city code around murals and approval of public

1027
01:28:24,750 --> 01:28:29,770
murals needing to go through that committee. We are also going to require

1028
01:28:29,770 --> 01:28:34,750
approval from the neighbors within 200 feet of the mural. Again, it's really

1029
01:28:34,750 --> 01:28:38,050
about building that sense of neighborhood identity, so we're hoping this can be

1030
01:28:38,050 --> 01:28:41,810
a partnership and that everybody that will be within that distance of the

1031
01:28:41,810 --> 01:28:48,250
mural is aware and excited to contribute to that installation. So for the

1032
01:28:48,250 --> 01:28:53,330
location requirements. These murals will be allowed within our streets and our

1033
01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:58,310
intersections. This will not include crosswalks. And the reason for that is

1034
01:28:58,310 --> 01:29:02,530
from the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, which is a manual used

1035
01:29:02,530 --> 01:29:07,570
nationally and within Oregon to ensure the consistent use of regulatory signs.

1036
01:29:08,290 --> 01:29:13,750
So the MUTCD does allow the use of asphalt, including patterns within our

1037
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:19,450
crosswalks. These are typically more subdued treatments. So an example of this would be the red brick

1038
01:29:19,450 --> 01:29:25,150
treatments that you see in the crosswalk area on Hall and Watson in downtown Beaverton.

1039
01:29:25,850 --> 01:29:32,790
But it does state that any of the colors within the crosswalks should not take away from the contrast

1040
01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:39,950
and how much those white transverse lines stand out. The Federal Highway Administration has also

1041
01:29:39,950 --> 01:29:45,690
issued a ruling on this section in the MUTCD and their interpretation is that crosswalk

1042
01:29:45,690 --> 01:29:49,250
art so a mural within the crosswalk itself is not permitted.

1043
01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:55,110
Now I do want to note there is an updated version of the MUTCD that's making its way

1044
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:59,270
through the adoption process in Oregon. They're targeting adoption in 2026.

1045
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
This section has been expanded in that manual. At this point, we do not know if the Federal Highway Administration intends to change their ruling and interpretation of this, but this is something that we do intend to monitor and should that change we would come back and consider revisions to the program at that time. So a few more specifics on where the murals would be allowed. So the first component is that they need to be a local street owned and maintained by Beaverton. As we all know, there are many streets that go through Beaverton,

1046
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:34,840
that we do not own and maintain, and we therefore cannot approve changes to those streets.

1047
01:30:36,020 --> 01:30:40,300
The focus on local streets is really getting to the amount of volume that's on the street,

1048
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,020
as well as, again, that sense of neighborhood identity.

1049
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,400
These are the streets that tend to be more residential in nature and have that threshold of volume

1050
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,420
less than 2,500 vehicles per day.

1051
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:53,940
Another component of that is just the maintenance.

1052
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,500
We see this with the striping that we put down on all of our streets.

1053
01:30:57,500 --> 01:31:00,360
the more cars drive on that striping, the more they wear out.

1054
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:06,020
So we want to put these mirrors where we think they will last and where we can really

1055
01:31:06,020 --> 01:31:07,140
continue to enjoy them.

1056
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,280
And then the last piece is that they must not interfere with any regulatory markings.

1057
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:17,860
So anywhere where we have the center line striping, markings near the intersections, bike lanes,

1058
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,760
we will have buffers that need to be maintained from that existing striping.

1059
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,520
And that's really to make sure that the striping that is there for regulatory purposes continues

1060
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:33,920
to stand out and people that are traveling can easily differentiate between the mural

1061
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,380
and the regulatory striping.

1062
01:31:37,530 --> 01:31:43,030
So getting into the artwork requirements, the guidelines for the murals will follow all

1063
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:45,830
of the existing requirements for murals in public spaces.

1064
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:49,990
So this is things like no text, no logos, no advertising.

1065
01:31:50,670 --> 01:31:55,390
I already mentioned that we do need to maintain a buffer around all of the traffic control

1066
01:31:55,390 --> 01:31:59,710
devices, and this will also require approval by the Public Art Selection Committee.

1067
01:32:00,290 --> 01:32:05,590
As part of this program, we're not going to require artists that are designing these

1068
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:09,850
murals to present to that committee, but we will encourage them to do so.

1069
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:18,160
So getting into the materials and installation component, so this is something that will be

1070
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,540
be reviewed and approved by transportation, engineering, and public works.

1071
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:27,020
As I mentioned earlier, we will be asking the applicants to obtain the paint that they

1072
01:32:27,020 --> 01:32:27,600
will be using.

1073
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,740
The type of paint will need to be reviewed and approved, and that paint must include an

1074
01:32:32,740 --> 01:32:34,020
additive for slip resistance.

1075
01:32:34,540 --> 01:32:38,940
So this is to ensure that as vehicles are driving over it, bicyclists are riding over the murals,

1076
01:32:39,140 --> 01:32:40,200
they're not too slick.

1077
01:32:41,180 --> 01:32:45,580
We need to make sure that throughout this process, the installation process specifically

1078
01:32:45,580 --> 01:32:50,700
we're maintaining access with ADA requirements and making sure that we're not blocking any

1079
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:55,640
curb ramps or anything like that. And that will be done through our temporary traffic control

1080
01:32:55,640 --> 01:33:02,480
plan. This is also something that we will be asking the applicants to help develop. And City

1081
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:07,500
Staff will work closely with them through the process. So we're working to develop a form that

1082
01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:11,480
they could fill out, draw where that will be painting the mural and where they think they need

1083
01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:12,400
to close the street.

1084
01:33:13,020 --> 01:33:18,820
City staff will review that, make any necessary changes to that, and then provide them with

1085
01:33:18,820 --> 01:33:20,540
the final plan that they need to implement.

1086
01:33:21,060 --> 01:33:26,440
This is very typical for how we work with community members that are coming in to do things

1087
01:33:26,440 --> 01:33:30,480
like repair sidewalk panels, street trees, and also special events.

1088
01:33:31,180 --> 01:33:36,260
And should community members need things like barricades or cones to actually facilitate closure

1089
01:33:36,260 --> 01:33:36,940
of the roadway?

1090
01:33:36,940 --> 01:33:43,800
They would be able to reach out to our public works team and our operation staff will help make sure that material gets to them.

1091
01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:49,570
So this is an overview of the application process.

1092
01:33:50,230 --> 01:33:52,250
This program will include seven steps.

1093
01:33:52,770 --> 01:34:01,310
Starting from talking with your neighbors, developing your design, getting that temporary traffic control together, and then submitting your application.

1094
01:34:02,010 --> 01:34:07,410
So our hope is that when community members come in to submit this application, they have the mural.

1095
01:34:08,050 --> 01:34:12,770
design, they know where they would like to put it, they have some ideas about what temporary

1096
01:34:12,770 --> 01:34:16,750
traffic control needs to look like, and the materials they're proposing to use.

1097
01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:21,590
In that next step, the application review and decisions, that's when staff will collaborate

1098
01:34:21,590 --> 01:34:27,890
with them on things like RL of the colors consistent in the mural with all of the guidelines.

1099
01:34:28,430 --> 01:34:32,970
Do we need to make changes to that temporary traffic control plan, is the location appropriate.

1100
01:34:33,770 --> 01:34:36,810
And lastly, we'll move to permit issuance and inspection.

1101
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:41,410
At that point, community members will have their permit and they'll be able to install

1102
01:34:41,930 --> 01:34:42,430
the mural.

1103
01:34:43,070 --> 01:34:47,950
One point I do want to highlight here is that that initial permit will only cover the installation.

1104
01:34:48,450 --> 01:34:53,130
So should an applicant decide at some point down the line that they want to come back to make

1105
01:34:53,130 --> 01:34:58,410
changes or to maintain the mural, we will ask them to apply for another permit that will

1106
01:34:58,410 --> 01:35:10,730
It will be a streamlined process and that's really just to make sure that the changes to the mural are consistent with all of the regulatory aspects and make sure that they have that temporary traffic control in place.

1107
01:35:11,950 --> 01:35:19,030
We expect that this application process from time of submittal to getting that permit issued will be about eight weeks.

1108
01:35:19,430 --> 01:35:27,330
That will allow staff time to review, collaborate with the applicant as well as move that mural approval through the Public Arts selection committee.

1109
01:35:27,330 --> 01:35:28,330
So

1110
01:35:30,700 --> 01:35:32,120
next steps for this program.

1111
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,700
So I mentioned we're targeting, we're a lot of this early next year.

1112
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,500
One component of that is setting up an online permit and resources web page.

1113
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,980
So we're partnering with community development.

1114
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:47,440
They already have a permitting system that community members use when they come in for things

1115
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:49,420
like sidewalk repair, street-to-ree removal.

1116
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:53,520
We can use that program to facilitate this process as well.

1117
01:35:53,980 --> 01:35:58,480
We're also developing a number of resources that will be available to community members

1118
01:35:58,480 --> 01:36:03,780
on the website. That will include information on the types of paint that you need to use,

1119
01:36:03,940 --> 01:36:08,860
the slip-resistant additive where you might be able to get in touch with local artists

1120
01:36:08,860 --> 01:36:13,800
if you don't have someone in your neighborhood that wants to design these murals and some

1121
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:19,100
more information on our expectations for that traffic control plan as part of the process.

1122
01:36:20,540 --> 01:36:24,840
We are also looking to coordinate with the neighborhood programs to share this information

1123
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,260
with the NAX and use that as a way to make community members aware of this program

1124
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:35,040
and get people interested in installing a mural in their neighborhood.

1125
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:41,240
And I already mentioned that we anticipate beginning accepting applications in early 2025.

1126
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:45,040
That concludes my presentation, so I'm happy to answer any questions.

1127
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:52,040
Awesome. I know you presented a traffic commission. Is this the first time you presented to us?

1128
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:59,160
yes. Great first presentation. Way to get on the board. I know it's probably not an easy

1129
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:03,480
day with the conversation we have to sit through and come present to us but that was great.

1130
01:37:03,740 --> 01:37:08,620
I think the way that you presented the information to us, you're giving us the ways to interpret

1131
01:37:08,620 --> 01:37:14,360
this and most importantly, this is something the city council has been asking for. So thank

1132
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:18,140
you for your thoughtful approach and where you're at. I just have a couple questions for

1133
01:37:18,140 --> 01:37:23,220
for you. I know we can have modifications to an established crosswalk because of the

1134
01:37:23,220 --> 01:37:29,040
design standards. I hope they fix that. Could with this, if we approve this tonight,

1135
01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:33,840
would this preclude us from doing something say at Watson and first where there's not

1136
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:39,580
an established crosswalk, but it's an area that we desperately need some kind of like traffic

1137
01:37:39,580 --> 01:37:41,880
calming, would this code allow that?

1138
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:53,160
Yes, so that's a good distinction. So just because it's not a March crosswalk does not mean that it's not a legal crossing and an area where there could be a March crosswalk in the future.

1139
01:37:53,920 --> 01:38:01,140
So at this point that would maintain consistency with whether there's March crosswalk there or not.

1140
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:08,040
But under that work and what a crosswalk is, is not literally every corner, so where

1141
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:14,280
would like looking at your map, like it would have to be in between crosswalks, so instead

1142
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:18,820
of doing it right at first and Watson, could we do it between Watson, first and second in

1143
01:38:18,820 --> 01:38:19,680
the middle of the road?

1144
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:20,080
You could.

1145
01:38:20,340 --> 01:38:20,440
Yep.

1146
01:38:20,580 --> 01:38:25,240
Or even in the intersection, we'll just need to maintain the 10-foot buffer from the area

1147
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:29,340
that, as you correctly noted, is identified as the legal crossing.

1148
01:38:29,340 --> 01:38:31,080
So what about Crescent Street?

1149
01:38:31,420 --> 01:38:33,100
How would that fit into this plan?

1150
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:33,940
Yes.

1151
01:38:34,180 --> 01:38:35,400
It's not crossing.

1152
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,120
It's a continuous curb.

1153
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:37,820
Yes.

1154
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,400
So I think for Crescent, I mean,

1155
01:38:39,820 --> 01:38:43,120
the one caveat to all of these locations is we need to look at the volume.

1156
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:43,720
Sure.

1157
01:38:44,020 --> 01:38:45,980
And the number of vehicles from them per day.

1158
01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:49,400
And those locations, so are those local streets?

1159
01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:50,040
Okay.

1160
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,500
But any of those local streets,

1161
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:54,860
and I realize it's a very small map and hard to see,

1162
01:38:54,980 --> 01:38:57,880
but any of those streets that were shown back up there.

1163
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:04,000
on that map, they're in orange, so those are the ones that we expect to be eligible under

1164
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:11,100
this and be able to meet the requirements both from the classification perspective

1165
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:13,240
and the number of volume.

1166
01:39:13,580 --> 01:39:18,320
Okay. Last question, fees. Did I miss that in your presentation?

1167
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:23,020
There would not be any fees associated with the permitting process for this program.

1168
01:39:23,020 --> 01:39:23,780
Thank you.

1169
01:39:28,050 --> 01:39:28,450
Sorry.

1170
01:39:28,690 --> 01:39:29,410
Who's first here?

1171
01:39:29,650 --> 01:39:30,290
Councillor Teeter.

1172
01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:32,210
Okay.

1173
01:39:32,330 --> 01:39:32,530
Thanks.

1174
01:39:32,670 --> 01:39:33,050
Thanks, Cara.

1175
01:39:33,670 --> 01:39:36,450
We've got several of us put in our name and say something.

1176
01:39:36,650 --> 01:39:37,210
So thank you.

1177
01:39:37,710 --> 01:39:38,790
This is very exciting.

1178
01:39:38,890 --> 01:39:42,130
I know the mayor said something council has been asking for.

1179
01:39:42,570 --> 01:39:44,810
It's something the Beaverton Downtown Association in downtown.

1180
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:46,550
Beaverton has been wanting for a long time.

1181
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:47,630
Arts commission.

1182
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:48,450
I've heard about it.

1183
01:39:49,070 --> 01:39:51,830
I've heard about an interest in passion for this for a long time.

1184
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:54,510
So thank you for your flexibility as engineers working with artists.

1185
01:39:55,190 --> 01:39:56,630
I think this will be really exciting.

1186
01:39:57,190 --> 01:40:01,430
I have one question regarding the process, the application process.

1187
01:40:02,010 --> 01:40:07,170
For people who are interested in this, are they able to have a pre-application call with

1188
01:40:07,170 --> 01:40:11,530
engineering team before they go through the whole process and find out if they're not able

1189
01:40:11,530 --> 01:40:14,290
to do that design or that intersection or whatever they're trying to do?

1190
01:40:14,810 --> 01:40:14,950
Yes.

1191
01:40:15,550 --> 01:40:20,550
So as we build out the information online, we will be including a number of links for folks.

1192
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:32,990
So the information, like what your street classification is, that's on our city website, we'll be making sure folks can get pointed directly to that so they can go online, look at their street and determine if they're one of those local streets.

1193
01:40:33,570 --> 01:40:38,710
We also collect traffic volume around the city and have that information published online as well.

1194
01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:44,550
That is not for every street, so that's a situation where should a community member have a question.

1195
01:40:44,550 --> 01:40:48,490
That will be a conversation that transportation engineering will be happy to have with them

1196
01:40:48,490 --> 01:40:53,550
prior to them going through that application process so we can find the right intersection

1197
01:40:53,550 --> 01:40:57,290
or block in their neighborhood for them to be able to install the mural.

1198
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:02,720
But, Councillor Teter?

1199
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:03,560
Great.

1200
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:04,980
She just stunned you to silence.

1201
01:41:06,260 --> 01:41:07,140
Councillor Hussain.

1202
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,840
Thank you so much for this presentation.

1203
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,620
I have a couple quick questions.

1204
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:13,280
This is silly.

1205
01:41:13,480 --> 01:41:16,600
It's a little bit in the weeds, but I'm just curious to prepare the staff.

1206
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,020
How are you like confirming property owner support?

1207
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:24,680
Like is that just through the permit and you, like, I just don't want you guys to get stuck with that.

1208
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:30,480
Yes. So when they log in and kind of start that permitting process, there will be a number of forms.

1209
01:41:30,940 --> 01:41:33,180
But they'll be asked to fill out throughout.

1210
01:41:33,660 --> 01:41:36,340
That includes some forms related to the murals.

1211
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:40,880
Again, all consistent with how we approach public murals now.

1212
01:41:41,220 --> 01:41:43,720
And the neighborhood support form will also be there.

1213
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:52,520
And that will just be a form that says, these are the neighbors within 200 feet of this location and we talk to them and confirm that everyone is on board.

1214
01:41:52,820 --> 01:41:55,360
So we will provide the form for them to be able to do that.

1215
01:41:56,140 --> 01:41:59,620
And then ask them to go out and get the confirmation.

1216
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:00,940
Okay.

1217
01:42:03,140 --> 01:42:11,520
In terms of like next steps aside from this presentation, is the next step that you guys just start or do you need to do any formal codifying of things?

1218
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:16,920
No, at this point, our direction has been that we can bring this forward as a program.

1219
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:27,340
The staff is initiating and we will be working to build out the infrastructure online and get the word out to community members, but no other actions needed.

1220
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:34,860
Okay, so just like two general comments, the ways in which projects are prioritized, I'm assuming it'll be like as they come in.

1221
01:42:34,860 --> 01:42:38,760
but I just want to be thoughtful that like all of Central Beaverton doesn't get up and just

1222
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:43,020
if not that we don't love Central Beaverton, but just making sure that we're diversifying what that looks like.

1223
01:42:43,620 --> 01:42:48,080
I don't know what the language is around the public art displays, but

1224
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:54,220
I am nervous about the possibility of like someone proposing something that could be

1225
01:42:54,220 --> 01:42:56,680
potentially hateful and not necessarily known.

1226
01:42:56,900 --> 01:43:01,360
So are there any policies in the public art that's written that sort of help address that?

1227
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:08,960
There are. There are through the existing mural program and there will be kind of a twofold review with the mural itself.

1228
01:43:09,220 --> 01:43:14,320
One transportation engineering will do a review to confirm that it's not impacting any of the regulatory markings.

1229
01:43:14,900 --> 01:43:18,280
That there's nothing that mimics a traffic control device in the mural.

1230
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,120
At that point it will then be passed to art staff.

1231
01:43:21,500 --> 01:43:28,060
They will confirm that it meets the requirements of our public mural program and it will then go to the public art selection committee.

1232
01:43:28,060 --> 01:43:31,120
So there will be a number of review points

1233
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:32,520
that can be built into the process.

1234
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:37,000
Okay, so here for it, you know, just imagining

1235
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,500
what 2025 looks like and somebody wants to do a mural

1236
01:43:40,500 --> 01:43:44,380
honoring, you know, the current future.

1237
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:46,220
Just something to think about.

1238
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:47,580
I don't know what that looks like in language.

1239
01:43:47,660 --> 01:43:50,300
I'm just putting it out there for you all because it's not hard

1240
01:43:50,300 --> 01:43:51,940
to get a bunch of neighbors to do something like that.

1241
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:53,860
So I trust you all to do it.

1242
01:43:53,860 --> 01:43:55,740
I'm just putting it out there because it's on my mind.

1243
01:43:55,740 --> 01:43:57,140
So thanks for listening.

1244
01:44:02,990 --> 01:44:08,130
I don't want to eclipse over that because we went through this with the sign code.

1245
01:44:08,830 --> 01:44:10,530
This is not a new conversation for us.

1246
01:44:11,310 --> 01:44:11,570
I know.

1247
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:16,350
I'm just saying like I think let's sit here for a second because you bring up a very valid

1248
01:44:16,350 --> 01:44:21,170
point and we haven't the mural code was predates all of you.

1249
01:44:21,970 --> 01:44:24,950
You were probably on the arts commission when it passed but not on the city council.

1250
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:28,410
So it'd be nice if the staff could rescind us that language.

1251
01:44:28,410 --> 01:44:31,950
I don't think we need a future work session but like let's get it in front of us to make

1252
01:44:31,950 --> 01:44:37,110
sure that if there if we deem that there might be future language adjustments to it.

1253
01:44:39,570 --> 01:44:46,410
And we have recently wrick any money should not be allowed to be we just recently talked

1254
01:44:46,410 --> 01:44:49,350
about this with the arts commission as well there needs to be a check in balance from

1255
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:55,830
the council on public money and so just thinking about when we get there we don't want to hold

1256
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:59,830
up the process, but Councillor Hassan has a really good point. I think you understand

1257
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,940
And that's enough of where this council is to know, come back with a solution for us. This is staff generated. So I don't think it needs to be council directed. Just give us some checks and balances that we could get behind. Councilor Dagger. Yeah, I was just going to really quick. The 200 foot requirement. Is that 100% of neighbors in the area. So what if there's like an apartment complex, right? With an intersection nearby, like, I don't know that 100% should

1258
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:34,160
be the standard right because if I'm an apartment complex and I just want to

1259
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:39,340
annoy people around me no right then all of a sudden you know I'm saying like

1260
01:45:39,340 --> 01:45:43,060
I don't know just something to think about yeah that is an area that we've

1261
01:45:43,060 --> 01:45:46,220
identified that we're going to have to kind of navigate on a case-by-case

1262
01:45:46,220 --> 01:45:51,320
basis because this is local streets are primarily residential they're

1263
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:58,360
primarily single family homes due to plex triplex and not as many with

1264
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:04,960
multiple families, but that will be something that we'll have to navigate case by case and determine

1265
01:46:06,780 --> 01:46:11,380
who the appropriate kind of approver in that is. And I think one way we've handled this

1266
01:46:11,380 --> 01:46:16,480
when this has come up before in other areas is to look to the property owner for their approval

1267
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:23,280
and not necessarily that we're asking every person in the apartment complex for their approval.

1268
01:46:26,450 --> 01:46:32,910
Yeah, I think it goes along with your point of like the language and everything. I think we've got to be really careful here

1269
01:46:32,910 --> 01:46:36,130
But I also like don't want to make it too hard to get this done and no

1270
01:46:36,130 --> 01:46:37,890
I think what you're hearing from us

1271
01:46:37,890 --> 01:46:42,090
And this is how I coach college ball like I'm gonna give you we're gonna give you some boundaries

1272
01:46:42,090 --> 01:46:47,670
You go out there and make it work and if you're meeting resistant come back to the city manager and I as the next step

1273
01:46:47,670 --> 01:46:54,130
Like if we get into this process where something's gonna be denied give her and I had the professional courtesy of like working through the issue together

1274
01:46:54,590 --> 01:46:56,490
and then if we have to revisit it with council,

1275
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:57,170
we can do that.

1276
01:46:57,550 --> 01:46:58,170
Councilor Tipnall.

1277
01:46:59,250 --> 01:47:01,570
Staying on that theme around the 200-foot

1278
01:47:02,590 --> 01:47:05,370
feet of installation or of the installation.

1279
01:47:06,010 --> 01:47:06,850
I have two questions around that.

1280
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:09,130
One is I'm not seeing anything in here

1281
01:47:09,130 --> 01:47:11,690
that says that the individual who's applying

1282
01:47:11,690 --> 01:47:15,250
for the permit has to actually live within 200 feet of that.

1283
01:47:15,470 --> 01:47:17,970
So they could, but they have to be a beaverton resident.

1284
01:47:18,910 --> 01:47:20,650
Is that correct or no?

1285
01:47:21,530 --> 01:47:23,150
I know the artist, doesn't it?

1286
01:47:23,150 --> 01:47:23,290
Okay.

1287
01:47:23,290 --> 01:47:40,950
All right. That's just point of clarification. I'm just curious about that. Um, but to that 200 feet, um, I could see a lot of people getting really excited about this, which I hope they do. I would love to see a lot of these pop up around the city and just the lighting people throughout the day.

1288
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:48,790
Probably not while it's being installed, but I can also see a barrier to people being

1289
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:53,730
just intimidated by the thought of going door to door and making an ask like this.

1290
01:47:54,110 --> 01:47:59,530
So just something to consider would be maybe some prompt language that could be added to

1291
01:47:59,530 --> 01:48:04,930
the form, that could help them figure out how to formulate the ask because it isn't asked

1292
01:48:04,930 --> 01:48:09,110
and some people are probably wary of anyone coming up to their door asking for anything.

1293
01:48:09,110 --> 01:48:13,510
so just to help reduce the barriers to get to a place where they can have that

1294
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:18,230
conversation and get all of the yeses that they need since they need a hundred

1295
01:48:18,230 --> 01:48:22,810
percent. That's pretty high bar and I just see that as being a potential barrier

1296
01:48:22,810 --> 01:48:26,230
to us actually seen a lot of these popping up all over the place just simply

1297
01:48:26,230 --> 01:48:29,570
because of communication breakdowns or because people are too intimidated even

1298
01:48:29,570 --> 01:48:35,690
taking on. So just one thing that I can share is that we reviewed how a lot of

1299
01:48:35,690 --> 01:48:42,010
have approached this program and coming up with this, we intend to get this program started

1300
01:48:42,010 --> 01:48:47,850
and get it moving and then monitor how implementation goes. There's a couple different areas where

1301
01:48:47,850 --> 01:48:53,250
if we were to identify barriers with getting members on board, the traffic control plan,

1302
01:48:53,770 --> 01:48:57,650
there are opportunities to revise that and approach that differently. So,

1303
01:48:57,870 --> 01:49:02,930
staff doesn't tend to monitor how implementation of this is going over the first year

1304
01:49:02,930 --> 01:49:07,750
and then come back with any updates if we need to address some of those challenges

1305
01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:09,110
or barriers for the community.

1306
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:14,410
And it sounds like to me, though, to Councillor Assange's point, it's all going to be in Central

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01:49:14,410 --> 01:49:18,890
Beaverton unless you can get five oaks triple creak to like start going door to door because

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01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:21,350
I'm guessing Central Beaverton's going to take it.

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Tutorial.

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01:49:22,350 --> 01:49:25,630
Tutorial for some of our neighbors and other parts of the city.

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01:49:27,310 --> 01:49:34,750
I have a question about, like, we're dealing with, you know, like, our roads are, like,

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01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:37,790
we're dealing with the percentage of, like, what?

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01:49:38,330 --> 01:49:41,610
Thank you, deteriorating roads and, like, road quality and things like that.

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01:49:42,250 --> 01:49:45,390
And it's also, like, something on my mind that's, like, I don't want to slow this down.

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I think it's really, really cool.

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01:49:47,690 --> 01:49:52,670
But I'm just kind of curious, like, what will that interplay maybe look like when it's time for a road to be redone?

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01:49:52,670 --> 01:50:01,130
And, you know, I think that the way it's laid out, it's pretty clear, like, you know, they're not permanent in the sense because they're going to get driven over that they may fade away.

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But I'm just kind of curious, like, the consideration around, like, our road.

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01:50:06,430 --> 01:50:10,530
What is the scoring that I can't think of? PCI?

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01:50:10,830 --> 01:50:13,610
Thank you. The payment condition index.

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01:50:14,410 --> 01:50:17,910
And thank you, colleagues, nerdier colleagues than I.

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01:50:18,930 --> 01:50:22,490
just I'm just curious right because like also if you've got if you're on a road

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01:50:22,490 --> 01:50:27,550
that doesn't have a smooth surface you probably or maybe you're gonna use those

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01:50:27,550 --> 01:50:32,590
as you know mixed medium in your mural if you got a pothole are you getting to a

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01:50:32,590 --> 01:50:36,770
point no I'm not getting to a point I'm mostly just curious like right how does

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01:50:36,770 --> 01:50:40,070
that get considered in this right and like just knowing that like it's kind it's

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01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:44,370
a situation we're dealing with across the city it's probably the heavier traffic

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01:50:44,370 --> 01:50:47,630
the ones that wouldn't qualify for the mural program anyways but that was

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01:50:47,630 --> 01:50:49,390
something that came up for me as I was reading back.

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01:50:49,590 --> 01:50:50,410
That's an excellent question.

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01:50:50,770 --> 01:50:53,430
And where we would kind of bring that in

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01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:57,270
is when an applicant were to come in to,

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01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:59,750
and say, I want to put this mural in this location.

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01:51:00,310 --> 01:51:02,190
One of the things we'll be looking at

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01:51:02,190 --> 01:51:05,550
is any planned and upcoming work on that street.

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01:51:06,050 --> 01:51:08,710
So if an applicant were to come in in May,

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01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:10,750
and say, hey, it's getting nice out,

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01:51:10,750 --> 01:51:12,730
I'd like to put this mural in my street this summer.

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01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:16,610
If we know that we're going to be doing water projects there

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01:51:16,610 --> 01:51:17,990
and need to tear that street up.

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01:51:18,330 --> 01:51:19,570
We're going to encourage them to wait

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01:51:20,090 --> 01:51:21,750
until after that project is complete.

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01:51:22,230 --> 01:51:25,170
The same would go for any known resurfacing

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01:51:25,730 --> 01:51:28,030
or containment repair that was coming.

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01:51:28,590 --> 01:51:30,870
We would make the applicant aware of that

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01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:35,390
and ask them to wait so that we don't have to destroy

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01:51:35,390 --> 01:51:37,550
that mural shortly after it was put in.

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01:51:38,670 --> 01:51:40,310
I think the adage you're looking for

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01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:41,790
is don't put, live sick on a pig.

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01:51:43,070 --> 01:51:44,190
I'm never paid for it.

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01:51:47,010 --> 01:51:54,810
I just a comment that I know traffic engineers really busy, so if this gets on, I hope

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01:51:55,150 --> 01:52:01,090
you can prioritize obviously that you're not overwhelmed with the work that other needs

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01:52:01,090 --> 01:52:01,810
more attention.

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01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:10,170
And then maybe add a pink to all the murals, the shout out to Ashley, you can ignore that

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01:52:10,170 --> 01:52:10,470
comment.

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01:52:10,470 --> 01:52:14,330
But they'll be fun, so you're on board.

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01:52:15,110 --> 01:52:19,830
Thank you. This was like a refreshingly different presentation from traffic engineering

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01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:24,590
and kind of the work that you're doing this on top of your job. Excellent first point on the board.

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Thanks for joining us tonight.

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01:52:28,290 --> 01:52:34,090
Okay, the next agenda on the, or the next item on the agenda is the first reading of an ordinance.

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01:52:34,330 --> 01:52:38,450
On December 3rd, 2024, during the Regulatory Scheduled City Council meeting,

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01:52:38,450 --> 01:52:40,850
and a public hearing will be held regarding ordinance

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01:52:40,850 --> 01:52:44,130
amending the comprehensive plan, volume 1, chapter 1,

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01:52:44,330 --> 01:52:45,990
3, 5, 6, 7, and 8.

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01:52:46,550 --> 01:52:49,910
Volume 3, volume 6, chapter 2, and 4

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01:52:49,910 --> 01:52:51,610
in the Appendencies O and P.

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01:52:51,990 --> 01:52:55,890
And volume P, the zoning map, the ordinance number 2050,

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01:52:56,530 --> 01:52:59,990
the Beaverton Development Code, chapter 10, 20, 40, 50,

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01:53:00,170 --> 01:53:01,390
60, 70, and 90.

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01:53:01,390 --> 01:53:21,790
LU-42024-00682, CPMA-42024-00679, ZMA-42024-00681, TA-42024-00680, Cooper Mountain

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01:53:21,790 --> 01:53:26,370
Community Plan Project, and if you understood what that meant, you were in the great company.

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01:53:27,170 --> 01:53:32,910
Our first work section of the evening 24148 water rates structure analysis.

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01:53:43,630 --> 01:53:55,650
Good evening. May our city council. My name is Susan Cole. I'm the assistant director for the finance department and I am joined this evening by the FCS group, John Galaducci and Gabbard.

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There are consultants that have helped us work on the water rates.

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01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:06,290
And as in your packet this evening, you will note that this is the first of two work

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01:54:06,290 --> 01:54:08,410
sessions to tackle this issue.

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So tonight is just designed to give you some background information on the analysis that

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01:54:13,770 --> 01:54:19,670
our consultants did, and then to outline a handful of options for a future rate structure.

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01:54:19,670 --> 01:54:26,690
So, we're not asking for any sort of consensus or decisions, just your feedback, that's why

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01:54:26,690 --> 01:54:27,330
we're here tonight.

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01:54:27,630 --> 01:54:31,790
It's a fairly meaty topic, and so that's why we thought it would be good to have two

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01:54:31,790 --> 01:54:36,830
separate work sessions that we can all wrap our minds around our water rights structure.

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01:54:39,190 --> 01:54:40,790
So, I think that, yes.

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Okay.

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01:54:41,630 --> 01:54:46,510
So, our agenda this evening is, as I mentioned, it will give you a background on utility

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01:54:46,510 --> 01:54:51,930
rate studies and revenue requirements for a water utility. They will dive into some

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01:54:51,930 --> 01:54:57,610
cost-of-service analysis work that they did, including our purple pipe system on South

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01:54:57,610 --> 01:55:02,470
Cooper Mountain, our different pressure zones in the city, potential tiered rates based

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01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:07,970
on usage, and then also what we call cost-of-service rates, and our consultants will go into defining

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01:55:07,970 --> 01:55:09,730
what all of that information means.

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So first of all, I wanted to just remind the city council

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01:55:16,370 --> 01:55:21,430
about the context that we're in for our rates and also to talk a little bit about the

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01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:26,850
capital investments that the water utility is made. And then just to point out that

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01:55:26,850 --> 01:55:32,410
this council did ask city staff to review tiered rates at this time last year when we came

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01:55:32,410 --> 01:55:37,810
before you to do our annual review of the rates. The city council did want tiered rates

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01:55:37,810 --> 01:55:42,270
explored and so that's why we're here this evening. And then of course with the consultant.

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01:55:42,970 --> 01:55:46,230
So, first of all, this slide may look familiar.

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If you go back in time to last year, we have prepared this rate path for the City Council

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just to disclose the path that we are on with our water rates.

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And it's based on a multi-year rate path because of the capital investments that our utility

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is making.

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Currently right now, we're at $5.90 per unit of water.

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01:56:07,330 --> 01:56:12,230
and what this graphic shows you is we are on a rate path to increase our rates

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01:56:12,230 --> 01:56:19,110
over time to afford those investments. This next graphic here is a demonstration

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01:56:19,110 --> 01:56:23,190
of the capital investments we've made with the water utility. There's a couple

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01:56:23,190 --> 01:56:28,090
acronyms here. The first one, WIFIA, is the water, I always have to Google this,

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01:56:28,210 --> 01:56:32,630
the Water Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act, which is a loan program

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01:56:32,630 --> 01:56:37,310
through the Federal Environmental Protection Agency. We received a loan of 81.1

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01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:43,950
1 million dollars from the EPA to finance 49% of $165 million late at projects.

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01:56:44,530 --> 01:56:47,330
So that is one important piece that feeds into our water rates.

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01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:50,510
Another important piece is the Willamette Water Supply System.

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01:56:50,770 --> 01:56:52,850
That is bringing drinking water from the Willamette River.

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01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:56,770
That is also a major investment that the water utility has made.

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01:56:57,470 --> 01:57:00,110
And so that is feeding into our rates scenarios.

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And just a little comment there on the graphic, you'll note that we have invested or

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plan to invest over $327 million in the water infrastructure between the fiscal year 20 and

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fiscal year 27.

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This slide demonstrates the debt service that the water fund is entering into and has already

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01:57:20,860 --> 01:57:21,580
entered into.

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And so you can see this particular slide takes us out to the fiscal year 2062.

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And that is because some of our debt is up to 30 years.

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01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,160
And you can see here how our debt service stacks on each other.

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where we have a series of loans from the state,

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:36,980
the WIFIA program that I mentioned,

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and then a series of water revenue bonds,

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01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,540
and those are basically bonds that we sell

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to investors on the municipal bond market.

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So this just demonstrates all the different types of debt

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01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,400
that the city has entered into,

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and also plans to enter into into the future.

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And this is just showing you what our rate horizon

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01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,100
looks like with the little asterisk there in the star

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01:57:56,550 --> 01:57:58,620
and what we anticipate into the future.

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So, as I mentioned, council has asked for tiered rates and we are here with the consultants.

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And, whoops, before they get into stuff, I just wanted to point out our public outreach

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01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:11,540
plan for the city council.

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You'll note here the bullet points of our plans to engage the community over the next two

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months before we come back to you on January 28th at our next work session.

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So we have a series of outreach meetings planned where I will, myself and staff members and

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01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:31,360
And I'm not sure if our public outreach, I don't think so, Jessica, will be joining us.

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:35,560
There'll basically just be staff that will be answering questions of our community and

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01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:41,100
making a very brief presentation just to let them know that we are considering water rate structure changes and

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01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:41,860
water rate increases.

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01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,340
So you can see there what our outreach plan is.

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Okay, and with that, I'm ready to turn it over to the consultants.

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01:58:58,220 --> 01:58:59,060
Thank you, Susan.

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01:58:59,340 --> 01:59:00,580
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

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01:59:00,580 --> 01:59:06,460
So I'll provide some background information and then Doug will take us through the initial results.

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We'll start with your existing rates. One of the nice things about them is they're very straightforward or rather simple structure.

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01:59:15,020 --> 01:59:18,340
Fix charges that go up with the size of the meter.

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And then a volume charge you see that the 590 that Susan just mentioned is the standard uniform rate.

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01:59:25,060 --> 01:59:32,380
So every 100 cubic feet of water that's used by a customer in Beaverton pays 590 per CCF.

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01:59:36,890 --> 01:59:42,370
So why are rate studies important? Well in the big picture they help you align

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01:59:42,990 --> 01:59:51,070
Where your costs are coming from with where the revenues going to come from from rates the amount of revenue and then who should be paying

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01:59:51,070 --> 01:59:52,790
in those rates? So

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01:59:53,510 --> 01:59:55,030
revenues need to recover

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01:59:55,710 --> 01:59:57,510
the costs of doing business

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01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:59,510
in each utility.

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They have to be dedicated to that specific purpose so water revenues can only be, water rate revenues can only be used on water costs. They help quantify the different policy choices that you make as a city, priorities, and initiatives, conservation can be one of those. And those decisions and policies are embodied ultimately in the rates. They tell the true cost of providing the service. And then they communicate to your customer.

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in the way of the bill and the invoice, what they're buying and there are public meetings associated with this process that help the service and the rate process be accountable.

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So these are the major steps in a rate study starting from the top, but we're calling a financial policy evaluation.

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that's really just making sure that we have target fund balances and smart

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02:00:59,730 --> 02:01:03,850
policies that will allow the utilities to be healthy in this case the water

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02:01:03,850 --> 02:01:09,830
utility by an ongoing basis and protect the utility against risk. The

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02:01:09,830 --> 02:01:15,750
revenue requirement forecast is the first major landmark that that is the

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determination of how much money is needed from rates to recover all the

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financial meet all the financial obligations of the utility. So that's how big is the

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pie? How much money do we need from rates? The cost of service analysis is where we

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start to look at how we slice the pie among your different customer types. So we look

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at the different functions that the water utility meets like providing fire protection, providing

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02:01:44,210 --> 02:01:50,230
customer service, peak demands in the summer, and then how do your different customer types

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02:01:50,230 --> 02:01:55,610
demand those functions differently and that will lead to different rates for

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different customer types usually. In the case of Beaverton we have an initial

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rate structure that is one size fits all. The rate design, once we know how much

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money we need to be recovering from each customer type, we can get creative

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about what the rate design looks like. That's where we can look at tiered rates that

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to get more expensive beyond thresholds of usage

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to try and have a conservation incentive.

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Communication plan, how do we reach out to the customers

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and solicit their input, let them know what's coming.

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A little bit more on the revenue requirement,

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the main components are those fiscal policies projected

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operating costs, so that's where we look at salaries,

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02:02:44,180 --> 02:02:46,500
costs of maintenance and operations,

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02:02:46,500 --> 02:02:54,080
professional services. Those are predictable costs. The ones that are really more difficult

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02:02:54,080 --> 02:03:00,660
to manage are capital costs. If you picture large expenditures every few years, we manage

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those often through debt and you saw the accumulation of debt. What that does also is smooths the

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02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:13,560
rates over time rather than spending 10 million in one year and then going back down with

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the rates you spread them out by planning and through that.

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So one of the primary objectives of a rate study in that Revenue Requirement Study is

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02:03:25,620 --> 02:03:32,040
the mix of cash funding for capital projects versus debt funding and do you continue

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02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:36,120
to accumulate debt or can we spend some cash on capital.

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What we're trying to do is find the optimal mix of debt and cash and build that into the

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02:03:42,740 --> 02:03:43,500
financial plan.

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02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:51,520
Final slide on the revenue requirement, the main components,

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fiscal policies, those are target fund balances, forecasted ONM, debt service,

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which is a big component of the revenue requirement as you saw, and then rate

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fund to capital.

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So again, that's the size of the pie, the cost of service

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analysis gets into slicing it. In this example, we've taken two steps to get to

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that sliced pie at the bottom of the slide.

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The first step was allocating the different revenue

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02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,060
requirement elements by function.

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So that would be customer service, fire protection,

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meeting peak demands, for example.

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And then we look at how the different customer types

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that you see in the pie there demand those functions.

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In this case, single family pays the bulk

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of the cost burden through their rates as a result of that cost of service analysis.

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So that gets at who should be paying?

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Rate design.

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Oh, this is an example of the cost of service allocation.

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Just focusing on that customer function, let's say it's a million dollars.

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02:05:07,620 --> 02:05:12,960
Customer service functions, like billing, don't really vary by the size of the customer

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02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,640
or the amount of water that they use.

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02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:25,440
So if you've got 60% of your customer accounts, single family, they'll pay 600,000 of that million dollars likewise for multi-family and commercial.

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Those proportions differ depending on the function.

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02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:40,690
Finally, rate design, this is where again we can get a little bit creative and this final slide in the background section.

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And if you focus on those two boxes in that middle column,

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02:05:45,690 --> 02:05:49,530
what the city has right now, we would call a uniform volume

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02:05:49,530 --> 02:05:49,930
rate.

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And that incline just shows that the more you use,

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the more you're going to pay in a straight line over time.

1524
02:06:00,290 --> 02:06:04,150
An inclining or tiered rate, as you see right below that one,

1525
02:06:04,650 --> 02:06:08,410
we have a price for the initial block of water use.

1526
02:06:08,410 --> 02:06:18,070
And then a higher price for the second block of use, and a higher price for, in this case the third block of use, there can be any number of blocks.

1527
02:06:18,910 --> 02:06:27,470
What that does is price higher volumes of use in a way that incentivizes conservation.

1528
02:06:27,870 --> 02:06:33,690
It also provides a, what can be considered a lifeline rate for very low levels of usage.

1529
02:06:33,690 --> 02:06:39,730
those come in at the cheapest at the cheapest rate so we'll show you an

1530
02:06:39,730 --> 02:06:41,550
example of a tiered rate.

1531
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,800
All right so now we begin to put numbers to

1532
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:54,500
everything that John was just explaining to you. We begin with financial

1533
02:06:54,500 --> 02:07:00,080
policies. The assumptions on the right and the right column are the assumptions

1534
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:05,100
that were baked into this rate spreadsheet. They are all kind of industry

1535
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:08,200
standard and appropriate for a city like Beaverton.

1536
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:15,080
And those are, they constrain our modeling and we make sure that they are met.

1537
02:07:17,340 --> 02:07:20,860
A salient feature of Beaverton's situation is your capital program.

1538
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:27,020
And ordinarily, if I showed a chart like this, when talking about rate setting,

1539
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:31,840
you'd normally expect that a big rate increases were hitting your way immediately.

1540
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:36,060
I mean, $73 million in the current fiscal year is a lot of money.

1541
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:41,220
But this is offset partially by all that WIFIA financing that you're getting.

1542
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:47,140
So it's not an immediate issue, but we still have to help you be able to afford all that

1543
02:07:47,140 --> 02:07:48,980
debt service that's coming your way.

1544
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:51,620
And so that's what this is all about.

1545
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:58,580
So what you have in this graphic is the whole revenue requirement analysis in the nutshell,

1546
02:07:58,580 --> 02:08:02,780
and I'm going to walk you through this because this pays to linger a little bit.

1547
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:09,520
The bottom layer of each column, the dark green, are your operating costs.

1548
02:08:10,180 --> 02:08:20,100
And as you can see from the green line that represents your current, your revenue at current rates,

1549
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:26,000
you have more than enough now and even into the future to handle your operating expenses.

1550
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:38,000
But the layers, the couple of layers above that of debt service is where you begin to see very quickly that current rates are not going to be adequate.

1551
02:08:38,620 --> 02:08:51,380
And so that's where we get the dotted line that shows the annual increases that are required to make sure that the total needs operating capital financial policies, all those needs are met.

1552
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:58,660
And so you have 7.5% increases for a few years and then backing off to a more inflationary

1553
02:08:58,660 --> 02:08:59,500
number after that.

1554
02:08:59,700 --> 02:09:02,040
And that makes sure all the needs get met.

1555
02:09:02,540 --> 02:09:06,860
Now we're still in the revenue requirements so we haven't looked at individual classes

1556
02:09:06,860 --> 02:09:10,500
and we haven't designed the rates differently for different kinds of users so don't get

1557
02:09:10,500 --> 02:09:11,880
too married to these numbers yet.

1558
02:09:12,340 --> 02:09:16,940
But if we were just looking at what the across the board rate increases would need to be,

1559
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:18,080
those are right here.

1560
02:09:20,690 --> 02:09:28,550
Putting those on a full rate schedule, I don't want to spend too much time on this because we're going to change all these numbers in a minute.

1561
02:09:29,150 --> 02:09:35,430
I do want to point out, notice the implementation dates and that second light tan band.

1562
02:09:35,970 --> 02:09:46,390
You have your first 7.5 scheduled for March 1st and then after that on October after that each year after that.

1563
02:09:46,390 --> 02:09:52,150
And so, your first two rate increases will be scheduled to come together pretty close

1564
02:09:52,150 --> 02:09:52,810
to one another.

1565
02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:58,670
And that's an important part of this modeling, if that assumption turns out to be wrong

1566
02:09:58,670 --> 02:10:02,090
or you want to go in a different direction, we would need to know that so that we could

1567
02:10:02,090 --> 02:10:03,310
model that appropriately for you.

1568
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:10,360
Sticking with the across the board increases, this is where it would put you in the list

1569
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:16,640
of comparators, and the bottom line is your relative position would remain unchanged, even

1570
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:17,940
even though you'd be going up a little bit.

1571
02:10:18,900 --> 02:10:21,760
And this represents kind of the first year change

1572
02:10:22,320 --> 02:10:24,980
versus everybody else's rates now

1573
02:10:25,780 --> 02:10:29,540
for a single family residence consuming HCCF a month.

1574
02:10:32,020 --> 02:10:33,780
So let's get into the cost of service analysis.

1575
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:35,820
So the way we do a cost of service analysis

1576
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:40,980
is we assign all of the dollar costs,

1577
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,720
all of the revenue requirement, to a function.

1578
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:47,900
And you see those functions in front of you

1579
02:10:47,900 --> 02:10:54,080
in the left-hand column, and then we take those allocations each function, and we allocate

1580
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:59,200
each function to customer classes. And so there's a lot of cross multiplication going on

1581
02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:04,880
here, but what you end up with at that second allocation is still the total revenue requirement,

1582
02:11:05,500 --> 02:11:10,920
but now that it's been filtered through functions and now into customer groups, we now know

1583
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:15,400
what you need from each individual customer class.

1584
02:11:16,420 --> 02:11:19,560
And when we did that, we found that

1585
02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:21,900
you're actually doing pretty good right now.

1586
02:11:22,620 --> 02:11:25,380
There is, as this graph will show you,

1587
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:28,580
it looks like there is a little bit of subsidy

1588
02:11:28,580 --> 02:11:32,460
that multifamily is providing to single family,

1589
02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:34,100
but as you can see, it's not a lot.

1590
02:11:35,060 --> 02:11:38,240
And so right now your current rate structure

1591
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:46,880
pretty much matches the cost of service. In other words, the classes of customer

1592
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:54,920
that place more of a burden on the utility are in general paying more. And so you

1593
02:11:54,920 --> 02:12:01,320
have a very equitable recovery. But the rate designs that we are about to show

1594
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:05,620
you, which is the really interesting part of all this, we are not going to

1595
02:12:05,620 --> 02:12:09,460
about these differences and we're going to bring multifamily and single family, we're

1596
02:12:09,460 --> 02:12:14,660
going to bring all of these into this target range that you see here on this graph.

1597
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:23,100
So it's a little hard to pick out the portion of the rate change that is attributable to

1598
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:26,200
a lining cost of service, but it's in there.

1599
02:12:26,780 --> 02:12:27,980
So we just want to make that clear.

1600
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:31,720
Because now we go on to rate design and we've got a whole bunch of things moving at once.

1601
02:12:34,990 --> 02:12:41,550
So the rate design options, a couple things we're going to look at briefly are purple pipe rates.

1602
02:12:41,570 --> 02:12:47,730
That's for the non-potable water. The pressure zone rates, so assigning those who require pumping,

1603
02:12:48,410 --> 02:12:55,990
having a surcharge that allows them to pay for that pumping, and then we'll move on to the tiered water usage rates

1604
02:12:55,990 --> 02:13:00,910
that fall into option one and option two, and I'll explain what those options are.

1605
02:13:00,910 --> 02:13:07,630
are. I should emphasize they are not the only options available. They represent a couple

1606
02:13:07,630 --> 02:13:14,830
of different approaches which can inspire you to come up with other scenarios I'm sure.

1607
02:13:16,730 --> 02:13:23,410
So purple pipe rates are the rates that would collect the cost of delivering non-potable

1608
02:13:23,410 --> 02:13:31,170
water through the purple pipe system. And when we allocate the cost of providing that

1609
02:13:31,170 --> 02:13:37,230
program to the customers in place who would be using that program, the rates are super

1610
02:13:37,230 --> 02:13:43,530
high and not feasible. It's like, it's like potable water with, with flex of gold in it.

1611
02:13:43,550 --> 02:13:51,230
I mean, it's, it's really infeasibly high. And so the recommendation is to delay implementation

1612
02:13:51,230 --> 02:13:59,770
of the purple pipe rates until the customer base expands and that would leave you I think

1613
02:13:59,770 --> 02:14:01,710
with a more feasible result.

1614
02:14:04,650 --> 02:14:12,310
Now tiered rates by pressure zone, that's another cost-based idea where we would collect

1615
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:16,510
and recover the costs of providing pumping to the higher pressure zones.

1616
02:14:17,550 --> 02:14:23,070
And we can have, because there's more than one tier, we can have multiple tiers of those

1617
02:14:23,070 --> 02:14:29,190
rates that surcharge that would recover those costs, depending on how you quantify those

1618
02:14:29,190 --> 02:14:33,830
costs, the recovery could be higher low.

1619
02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:39,310
I'm going to show you some examples of what we came up with, but just I begin with a

1620
02:14:39,310 --> 02:14:47,490
reminder that this is another one that staff recommends delaying the pressure zone rates until

1621
02:14:47,490 --> 02:14:49,010
more build out has occurred.

1622
02:14:49,010 --> 02:14:54,990
and so we're addressing purple pipe and pressure zone rates here but when we

1623
02:14:54,990 --> 02:14:59,830
get into the rate design scenarios those are not

1624
02:15:04,660 --> 02:15:13,440
So we'll talk about it here and then we'll move on from it. So this is an example of what pressure zone rates could look like.

1625
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:29,980
We have three tiers in the upper right hand corner. You have a tier zero, which is non-pumped. Tier one, which is a tier zero.

1626
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:36,320
the first level and Tier 2, which is a higher level where it's pegged at one and a half times

1627
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:47,460
the cost of the first tier. And in the table on the left, you see the monthly rates at each

1628
02:15:47,460 --> 02:15:55,000
meter size for each tier. So a single family residence, which typically has a three quarter

1629
02:15:55,000 --> 02:16:02,580
inch meter in tier one they would pay an extra $13.20 per month or that

1630
02:16:02,580 --> 02:16:07,660
pumping and then if you were up in tier two they would pay $19.80 per month.

1631
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:12,860
Now that I've described those to you you can instantly forget about them because

1632
02:16:12,860 --> 02:16:16,420
they are not part of the rate design scenarios that we're about to see.

1633
02:16:18,650 --> 02:16:18,850
So now

1634
02:16:18,850 --> 02:16:23,250
we talk about tiered water usage and John has already gone over over what

1635
02:16:23,250 --> 02:16:32,230
these are but we're now beginning to move away from your uniform volume charge. Now we have

1636
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:37,170
different rates for different levels of consumption and now we'll show you what that looks like.

1637
02:16:37,730 --> 02:16:42,730
So we got some eye candy here for those of you who like to visualize distributions but I wanted

1638
02:16:42,730 --> 02:16:52,250
to draw attention mainly to the table that shows you the tear thresholds in CCF. So you have

1639
02:16:52,250 --> 02:17:07,710
a tier two threshold of six, which basically represents the break point for what most people would use in off-season in non-peak usage, non-watering, I guess you would say.

1640
02:17:07,710 --> 02:17:18,310
Okay, tier three threshold at 11 CCF is kind of at the higher end of what someone would

1641
02:17:18,310 --> 02:17:26,430
use during the watering season and then they pay $11 after you're above 11 CCF after

1642
02:17:26,430 --> 02:17:26,630
that.

1643
02:17:27,610 --> 02:17:34,290
So this is kind of a, this is a rationale of why we picked these tier thresholds.

1644
02:17:34,290 --> 02:17:36,590
These tier thresholds will remain constant now

1645
02:17:36,590 --> 02:17:40,310
through the two scenarios that we're about to show you.

1646
02:17:41,350 --> 02:17:43,850
And this slide explains how we arrived at that.

1647
02:17:44,730 --> 02:17:45,970
Okay, option one.

1648
02:17:46,530 --> 02:17:52,470
Option one is the gentle cost of service tiered rates.

1649
02:17:53,050 --> 02:17:56,190
They really make use of your existing right structure

1650
02:17:56,930 --> 02:17:58,850
and don't add too much more complexity

1651
02:17:58,850 --> 02:18:01,690
to it other than the three different blocks.

1652
02:18:01,690 --> 02:18:12,050
blocks. And so you see that the meter size charge would go up a little bit and pardon

1653
02:18:12,050 --> 02:18:24,090
me. And on the volume charge you would have a charge go down for the first block so good

1654
02:18:24,090 --> 02:18:27,330
for low users and then go higher from there.

1655
02:18:30,230 --> 02:18:32,550
This is part of the ad one, please.

1656
02:18:32,810 --> 02:18:34,550
Well, you have a chance too, guys.

1657
02:18:37,350 --> 02:18:38,190
Unseasier throat.

1658
02:18:38,770 --> 02:18:44,130
The one that that top bullet on this slide is kind of important because one of the things

1659
02:18:44,130 --> 02:18:50,310
that we notice is that split between fixed and variable revenue is heavily weighted

1660
02:18:50,310 --> 02:18:53,110
toward revenue from the volume rates.

1661
02:18:53,110 --> 02:19:00,210
So what that does is it puts the city in the position of in a in a let's say

1662
02:19:01,190 --> 02:19:06,230
Summer of low demand lower than expected demand. You're going to see big

1663
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:09,870
Effects on your revenue. That's it. That's a volatile revenue

1664
02:19:11,450 --> 02:19:19,030
Set up there. So when we look at the next option, we're going to try to show you one that where there's more revenue coming from the fixed charges

1665
02:19:19,030 --> 02:19:21,450
But there's still a conservation incentive

1666
02:19:22,110 --> 02:19:25,430
built-in and less reliance on the volume rates.

1667
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:36,240
In some ways. So now, this is the full rate schedule for option one.

1668
02:19:36,980 --> 02:19:43,400
Just so you have it all complete, I could read it to you but then you'd fall asleep and that would not be good.

1669
02:19:44,180 --> 02:19:50,120
So let's talk about option two. Option two is the non-genital option.

1670
02:19:50,120 --> 02:19:59,020
This is what we would suggest to you if we were left to our own devices and say, hey, man, let's do cost of service rates all the way.

1671
02:19:59,740 --> 02:20:02,480
We are introducing little extra complexity here.

1672
02:20:02,900 --> 02:20:07,360
So once again, we have a fixed charge, but the fixed charge now has two layers.

1673
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:13,700
There is an account-based charge, which is what you see in the upper left table.

1674
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:19,620
And then there is a meter-based layer of the fixed charge, which is what you see on the right side.

1675
02:20:19,620 --> 02:20:34,960
So, for example, a single family residence with a 3-quarter inch meter would have in 2025 a combined fixed charge per month of $37.50.

1676
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:43,380
Because you're combining the single family account charge with the lowest meter size meter charge.

1677
02:20:43,800 --> 02:20:46,700
So the fixed charge now has two different layers to it.

1678
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:59,380
On the volume charge, you'll see that the volume charges are lower because that's the

1679
02:20:59,380 --> 02:21:02,700
only place you can go when the fixed charges are higher and they certainly are higher here

1680
02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:05,240
to recover more revenue in the fixed charge.

1681
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:14,860
So to make sense of how we compare this, we will go right by this wonderful slide which

1682
02:21:14,860 --> 02:21:20,020
is the full rate schedule for option two that you can look at at your leisure. This is the one

1683
02:21:20,020 --> 02:21:28,960
you'd probably be interested in. So what we have here are five different categories of user.

1684
02:21:29,940 --> 02:21:35,520
And we're not talking about different classes. This is all single family because

1685
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:44,280
that's all the tiered rates would apply to a single family. The green column on the left of each

1686
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:49,340
cluster is the current rates and so they're not really comparable.

1687
02:21:50,440 --> 02:21:56,620
The final three columns in each cluster are comparable and you want to compare them.

1688
02:21:57,320 --> 02:22:01,780
The first one, the orange one is the 2025 across the board rates.

1689
02:22:01,980 --> 02:22:08,460
If we just stopped at the revenue requirement and did the 7.5% increases for everybody and

1690
02:22:08,460 --> 02:22:11,720
kept the rate structure the same, that's what's in the orange.

1691
02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:21,520
In the yellow column, you have the option one rates, and in the final blue column, you have the option two rates.

1692
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:26,400
And this is where you see kind of the proverbial winners and losers of each scenario.

1693
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:33,260
So if you are a low user, you really like that option one.

1694
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:39,200
Because the fixed charge is lower, and that fixed charge really matters if you're not using a lot of water.

1695
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:49,960
If you are a high user, then you probably do better under the tiered rates of option two.

1696
02:22:52,430 --> 02:22:56,170
So that's just how different kinds of users come out.

1697
02:22:57,050 --> 02:23:07,070
But this is a helpful way to compare the options of the two the tiered rate options versus the across the board option.

1698
02:23:07,070 --> 02:23:12,490
And in some cases, like at 12 CCF, there's really not much difference between them.

1699
02:23:16,300 --> 02:23:23,480
So to summarize, the three choices you just saw, the existing rate structure with across

1700
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:26,740
the board increases, and then two tiered options.

1701
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:33,720
Tiered option one makes use of your current rate structure without adding a lot of complexity

1702
02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:37,140
to it while phasing in the cost of service results.

1703
02:23:37,140 --> 02:23:44,480
And it maintains, as John said, the current revenue split between fixed and variable.

1704
02:23:45,520 --> 02:23:53,560
And there is because of that, there is a greater conservation incentive.

1705
02:23:55,810 --> 02:24:01,470
Option two replaces the current rate structure with a more pure cost of service rate structure

1706
02:24:01,470 --> 02:24:07,650
where you have that base charge that has its two layers for both the customer class and the meter size.

1707
02:24:07,650 --> 02:24:17,450
It shifts more revenue collection to that fixed rate, and so for that reason, it has greater revenue stability, which is helpful for the utility.

1708
02:24:20,170 --> 02:24:31,630
You are always trading off what's good for the utility versus what's good for the customer, and that's the trade-off between conservation incentive versus revenue stability.

1709
02:24:31,630 --> 02:24:32,570
So,

1710
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:43,020
just to articulate the specific questions that we are seeking feedback from Council about,

1711
02:24:43,880 --> 02:24:47,880
how should Beverton's structure, its water rates, to recover costs?

1712
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:54,420
Specifically, should Beverton move to a tiered rate structure or keep the existing structure?

1713
02:24:54,860 --> 02:25:01,840
And secondly, if a tiered structure is preferred, should the rate structure phase in cost of

1714
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:08,200
service rates as in option one or entirely replace the current structure as in option two.

1715
02:25:11,900 --> 02:25:18,020
The next steps that we see here are a Council work session toward the end of January where

1716
02:25:18,020 --> 02:25:25,540
we will bring back a summary of the public outreach and we'll have Council direction on

1717
02:25:25,540 --> 02:25:26,680
the rate structure.

1718
02:25:27,820 --> 02:25:34,020
Public hearing is currently scheduled for February 18th with rates to be effective March

1719
02:25:34,020 --> 02:25:39,480
first, which brings us back to that March 1 implementation date that you saw on the

1720
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:40,100
rate schedules.

1721
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:52,210
Awesome.

1722
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:54,550
And we'd be happy to entertain any questions you have.

1723
02:25:54,750 --> 02:25:55,050
Thank you.

1724
02:25:57,030 --> 02:26:01,930
I think for me to make decisions going forward, there's a couple things that I feel like

1725
02:26:01,930 --> 02:26:07,210
are missing for me to fully grasp this, like how many people in these categories, like it's

1726
02:26:07,210 --> 02:26:14,450
really great and you've found very knowledgeable in what 8CF versus 5 is, what I would like

1727
02:26:14,450 --> 02:26:20,350
to know is like how many houses is that? And is there like a geographical map that can put

1728
02:26:20,350 --> 02:26:25,010
up to say like this particular neighborhood uses more like could we get a feeling of how

1729
02:26:25,010 --> 02:26:31,090
that's going to impact different neighborhoods? I'm glad that you're skipping over the pump

1730
02:26:31,090 --> 02:26:35,450
fee piece. All of our public feedback today was like please don't do that. I live on a hill,

1731
02:26:36,050 --> 02:26:41,630
which is understandable for them. But I need to know a little bit more and I think also from the

1732
02:26:41,630 --> 02:26:45,530
Council's perspective, like we're still waiting to figure out what happened with our utility

1733
02:26:45,530 --> 02:26:46,870
billing the last few months.

1734
02:26:47,050 --> 02:26:49,970
From our understanding, we're under billing a lot of bills right now.

1735
02:26:50,630 --> 02:26:57,770
And so if we go in and add this tiered rate structure and somebody's anticipate bill goes

1736
02:26:57,770 --> 02:27:01,050
up exponentially, like I need that information to make a decision.

1737
02:27:01,590 --> 02:27:07,030
So I can't make a decision or get really credible feedback without knowing some of those

1738
02:27:07,030 --> 02:27:07,670
other variables.

1739
02:27:08,430 --> 02:27:09,170
Councillor Tiffnan.

1740
02:27:09,170 --> 02:27:16,490
Thank you. Just a couple of questions. The first one was on the slide where it showed

1741
02:27:16,490 --> 02:27:21,550
the different graphs of different types of structures. There was a seasonal one on

1742
02:27:21,550 --> 02:27:27,270
there. That one caught my eye and it wasn't included in this, though you did have a notion

1743
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:33,090
about conservation at conservation incentive and I'm assuming that the seasonally-based one

1744
02:27:33,090 --> 02:27:41,910
And like in a community saying Nevada or Arizona is kind of a no-brainer to help incentivize

1745
02:27:41,910 --> 02:27:44,490
people to use less water during the peak seasons.

1746
02:27:45,530 --> 02:27:52,490
And I'm curious if that's a consideration or concern that applies to a community or region

1747
02:27:52,490 --> 02:28:00,930
like ours to the, I wouldn't say the same extent, but in terms of just the cost of it, of

1748
02:28:00,930 --> 02:28:10,130
If the energy costs of everything that goes into delivering that water, if they're going

1749
02:28:10,130 --> 02:28:14,790
with the tiered options that you present, especially option one, with that conservation incentive

1750
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:21,550
built into it, is that kind of an apples to apples with going with that seasonal approach?

1751
02:28:21,550 --> 02:28:25,870
Is there any upside to potentially considering the seasonal rate structure?

1752
02:28:25,870 --> 02:28:39,170
So seasonal rates used to be a lot more common than they are now and all it was was you have you have one volume rate in the winter and a different volume rate in the summer period of peak use.

1753
02:28:39,670 --> 02:28:53,810
The reason that I think the industry has moved more toward the tier rates, tiered rates is because one, we've got billing systems that can bill them back then. That was a hard thing to do and it's not anymore.

1754
02:28:53,810 --> 02:29:05,170
But the other thing about the seasonal rates is they even folks who conserved water and don't use water in the summer are subject to the higher rate.

1755
02:29:05,530 --> 02:29:15,050
And that's why the move toward the tiered rates has happened because it has those incentives and that reward for folks who conserved year round.

1756
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:20,190
So that's generally why the industry has moved that direction.

1757
02:29:20,190 --> 02:29:22,870
Okay. Thank you. That's very insightful.

1758
02:29:23,370 --> 02:29:27,430
I had one other, you were asking about the number of customers and bills.

1759
02:29:27,530 --> 02:29:31,510
Yeah. You could go to slide 37.

1760
02:29:34,280 --> 02:29:39,660
Yeah. So this shows, and I know this doesn't fully answer your question,

1761
02:29:39,660 --> 02:29:44,820
but just to give you a little bit of background on that, on the Y-axis,

1762
02:29:45,580 --> 02:29:51,220
there are the number of individual bills. So those bars are the number of bills

1763
02:29:51,220 --> 02:29:59,200
and you see the median there at a little over four it will all on the x axis is the

1764
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
CC, the volume bill. So over 30,000 bills at 4, 3, or 4 CCF. So that's a lot of bills at low usage. And you can see how that distribution, as you move out to more and more higher and higher volumes of usage, the number of bills goes way down. And one of the things I wish we had showed you is at some really egregious levels of usage, like 40 or 50.

1765
02:30:29,980 --> 02:30:35,020
DCCF and you have customers who use that in the summer, you would see the bills on

1766
02:30:35,020 --> 02:30:41,160
those tiered rate options much, much higher than your current uniform rate, which I think

1767
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:47,360
is what you want in general. But anyway, that gives you a little more information and we'll

1768
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:47,820
get you more.

1769
02:30:47,960 --> 02:30:53,120
Well, and I'm guessing probably some of those large water companies or other government

1770
02:30:53,120 --> 02:30:58,060
users like schools and parks. And so it would be helpful to have a little bit more complete

1771
02:30:58,060 --> 02:31:01,660
understanding. So I hear what you're saying and Portland puts out their lists of the top 10

1772
02:31:01,660 --> 02:31:07,380
you know water abusers and I don't want to publicly shame people but it'd be interested to kind

1773
02:31:07,380 --> 02:31:12,840
of see and I also think if you could work with GIS to do a map overlay with neighborhood so when

1774
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:17,440
we're thinking about it from a zoning perspective like have we intentionally created neighborhoods

1775
02:31:17,440 --> 02:31:22,960
that are using intent a lot more water because of the lot size that's just helpful information for us

1776
02:31:22,960 --> 02:31:27,820
as we're struggling with building codes and all of that other stuff and so I don't expect you to answer

1777
02:31:27,820 --> 02:31:31,620
today but as you come back this would be information that is helpful for me

1778
02:31:31,620 --> 02:31:34,160
because we're planning North Cooper Mountain we're planning a brand new

1779
02:31:34,160 --> 02:31:38,660
neighborhood are we setting up the incentive there to be big lots and high

1780
02:31:38,660 --> 02:31:43,460
water users and so that's kind of information as I'm leaning towards kind of

1781
02:31:43,460 --> 02:31:47,480
how we're making this disease these are all single-family residences so the

1782
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:52,580
tiered-rate structure would not apply to any other customer type only single-family

1783
02:31:52,580 --> 02:31:58,560
residents is because they're the ones that have the most discretionary usage and they're

1784
02:31:58,560 --> 02:32:03,780
the ones that peak the most, so sorry if that wasn't clear, we've got, yeah, I'd like

1785
02:32:03,780 --> 02:32:09,520
to see the map of the person using 60 CCF, so please tell me what lots are there.

1786
02:32:10,020 --> 02:32:12,960
But yeah, we'll see what we can do about getting you that heat map.

1787
02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:20,420
That was the second question I had to help inform which option was to give some examples

1788
02:32:20,420 --> 02:32:27,580
of who would fall into that highest-use category of 20 CCF and just to have a better idea

1789
02:32:27,580 --> 02:32:32,740
because there is a difference at that level and understanding if it's a school or if it's

1790
02:32:32,740 --> 02:32:42,100
a single-family residence. So we're talking like estates at that level or just large-scale

1791
02:32:42,660 --> 02:32:48,080
single-family footprints. These are all single-family residences on this chart. So

1792
02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:59,160
So, but yeah, you will find some large footprints with huge yards, folks that just have like green

1793
02:32:59,660 --> 02:33:00,140
lawns.

1794
02:33:00,180 --> 02:33:05,560
And so we can do some of that research because we have the individual count data.

1795
02:33:06,460 --> 02:33:07,140
Councillor Dagger.

1796
02:33:09,730 --> 02:33:09,970
Thanks.

1797
02:33:09,970 --> 02:33:10,670
I have a few questions.

1798
02:33:10,870 --> 02:33:14,050
First, I appreciate you guys bringing us up tiered options.

1799
02:33:14,370 --> 02:33:17,150
Like we have been asking a number of us for this for some time.

1800
02:33:17,390 --> 02:33:19,410
So, kicking off this is good.

1801
02:33:19,410 --> 02:33:21,830
that I'm going to echo the mayor's call for more information.

1802
02:33:22,330 --> 02:33:24,050
We want to make the right decision.

1803
02:33:24,250 --> 02:33:28,190
We want to make a decision we can also sell to our residents.

1804
02:33:30,010 --> 02:33:33,290
So with that, I have, I think, four questions.

1805
02:33:33,850 --> 02:33:36,790
Have you ever seen, instead of a base water rate increase,

1806
02:33:37,630 --> 02:33:41,170
a separate line, I'm calling it in my brain

1807
02:33:41,170 --> 02:33:43,030
a surcharge for capital projects?

1808
02:33:43,350 --> 02:33:45,030
Yes, here's why I asked that, right?

1809
02:33:45,170 --> 02:33:48,470
Like, if we raise the base rate once those projects are paid off,

1810
02:33:48,470 --> 02:33:55,490
That race not coming down, right? But if it's a surcharge, then we can actually communicate that very clearly on the bill

1811
02:33:55,490 --> 02:33:58,850
So have you guys ever seen that is that multiple times?

1812
02:33:59,250 --> 02:34:01,030
I haven't seen one go away

1813
02:34:01,490 --> 02:34:09,290
You know, which is fair like you're gonna have more continuous capital, but at least people see the direct investment. They're making in their water system

1814
02:34:11,090 --> 02:34:14,250
Question of clarification around delaying the purple pipe

1815
02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:20,050
rates? Are we, is that water flowing and free right now? How is that working?

1816
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:26,030
It's part of our current rate structure, so they pay the monthly fixed charge plus

1817
02:34:26,030 --> 02:34:27,750
the $5.90 per unit.

1818
02:34:28,130 --> 02:34:31,970
Okay, that's what I want to clarify. So it's not, it's not free water. It's just charge

1819
02:34:31,970 --> 02:34:38,430
of, okay, now I'm totally in support of that. The, the, the models that you have on the revenue,

1820
02:34:38,430 --> 02:34:44,590
Is that assuming any behavior change with the tiering of the rates?

1821
02:34:45,550 --> 02:34:49,230
No, there is no price elasticity built in.

1822
02:34:51,030 --> 02:34:53,630
So these are probably accurate, not precise.

1823
02:34:54,310 --> 02:34:56,070
I think is a way to look at it.

1824
02:34:56,090 --> 02:35:03,250
There might be some, if we incentivize water conservation, we might see some lower usage,

1825
02:35:03,550 --> 02:35:05,730
which is probably a good thing for our construction, too.

1826
02:35:05,730 --> 02:35:15,450
There are a few things that we've seen over decades of these tiered rate structures.

1827
02:35:16,250 --> 02:35:22,770
There is occasionally a response to the structure in the first year, maybe the first two

1828
02:35:22,770 --> 02:35:28,250
years, and then in general behavior goes back to where you saw it before you're just recovering

1829
02:35:28,250 --> 02:35:32,050
it in a more equitable way, I guess you could say.

1830
02:35:32,050 --> 02:35:50,290
We've also seen water use per unit going down since the mid 90s in a kind of an amazing way, and that's because of low flow fixtures, all kinds of different changes to the way homes and commercial structures are designed.

1831
02:35:50,730 --> 02:35:57,670
So there's been this conservation over time in part due to pricing, but a lot of other factors as well.

1832
02:35:57,670 --> 02:35:58,610
No, that's helpful.

1833
02:35:59,490 --> 02:36:03,770
Last easy question, assuming the tiered option 1,

1834
02:36:04,450 --> 02:36:07,450
where it was like 0 to 6, and then 7 to whatever.

1835
02:36:08,050 --> 02:36:10,930
So if I'm a water user who uses 8 cubic feet,

1836
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:13,830
I'm assuming my first 6 are going to be built at the low rate,

1837
02:36:13,990 --> 02:36:17,610
and then if I do 8, the next 1 or 2

1838
02:36:17,610 --> 02:36:18,690
are going to be built at the highest rate.

1839
02:36:18,690 --> 02:36:19,430
That's exactly right.

1840
02:36:20,370 --> 02:36:23,570
And then the last one, maybe a little more complicated

1841
02:36:23,570 --> 02:36:24,670
if you don't have the answer, that's OK.

1842
02:36:25,430 --> 02:36:28,870
Because when I think about conservation, I also think about where in the Western United

1843
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:31,750
States water rights are a really big important conversation.

1844
02:36:32,530 --> 02:36:36,870
Do we anticipate any future that's having to purchase water rights?

1845
02:36:37,050 --> 02:36:40,690
Do we have sufficient capacity to support the growth anticipated?

1846
02:36:41,110 --> 02:36:44,510
Is there anything we should bake into the rates for purchasing water rights?

1847
02:36:47,450 --> 02:36:49,370
Yeah, I guess I'll answer that.

1848
02:36:50,790 --> 02:36:54,550
The City of Beaverton has water rights through the Joint Water Commission on the

1849
02:36:54,550 --> 02:36:58,370
12th and River, and we did also work to get water rights on the Willamette River.

1850
02:36:58,730 --> 02:37:03,430
Currently, our water rights are in excess of what we can actually deliver here to the City of Beaverton.

1851
02:37:03,570 --> 02:37:08,330
Once we invest in the Willamette Water Supply Program, so we do have excess water rights.

1852
02:37:08,830 --> 02:37:14,830
And over the course of time, like the next 20 or 30 years, the City will work on developing those.

1853
02:37:14,970 --> 02:37:18,550
But that is part of the reason why we decided to invest in the Willamette Water Supply.

1854
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:21,790
is to get that drinking water supply up here.

1855
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:23,550
That's super helpful, I appreciate that.

1856
02:37:23,570 --> 02:37:25,130
Yeah, our water master plan does show

1857
02:37:25,130 --> 02:37:27,770
that our future growth demand will be met

1858
02:37:27,770 --> 02:37:29,310
with our current water resources.

1859
02:37:29,590 --> 02:37:29,810
Okay.

1860
02:37:30,010 --> 02:37:31,090
It's a 30-year supply.

1861
02:37:31,350 --> 02:37:32,830
So when we took the hard vote

1862
02:37:32,830 --> 02:37:34,490
of getting into the wool lamb at water,

1863
02:37:34,770 --> 02:37:36,110
it was with a 30-year lock.

1864
02:37:36,390 --> 02:37:37,150
I see, okay.

1865
02:37:37,490 --> 02:37:38,490
Not further questions.

1866
02:37:38,510 --> 02:37:38,890
Thank you.

1867
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:39,910
It was super helpful.

1868
02:37:41,350 --> 02:37:41,930
Councillor Teter.

1869
02:37:43,410 --> 02:37:44,870
Okay, there's a lot of detail here.

1870
02:37:45,010 --> 02:37:45,250
Thank you.

1871
02:37:45,250 --> 02:37:45,330
You know,

1872
02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:51,510
the water rights question is touching on a theme I was going to touch on also just

1873
02:37:51,510 --> 02:37:53,430
regarding the environment that we're working in.

1874
02:37:53,890 --> 02:38:00,270
We have a lot of water that we could access and though reservoir and in the will limit

1875
02:38:00,810 --> 02:38:01,690
eventually soon.

1876
02:38:03,530 --> 02:38:06,430
We've got expensive infrastructure improvements that we're building out.

1877
02:38:06,510 --> 02:38:10,210
We're seeing with our debt service, we're having rate increases to cover those.

1878
02:38:10,210 --> 02:38:14,730
So I share that because I'm thinking of conserving water.

1879
02:38:15,370 --> 02:38:20,230
And conserving water itself is not the highest priority for me because we have so much of it.

1880
02:38:21,070 --> 02:38:25,770
But I do like charging based off of usage and having a tiered rate for that.

1881
02:38:26,170 --> 02:38:29,430
And the reason for that is more based off of the infrastructure that we're building out.

1882
02:38:29,570 --> 02:38:34,430
And if people, if we're needing to build more infrastructure to bring more water in or to pump

1883
02:38:34,430 --> 02:38:40,730
more water up hills. I'm okay with pricing usage according to that. And also it

1884
02:38:40,730 --> 02:38:44,230
gives people an incentive to use less water. If they want a lower water bill we

1885
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:47,650
can easily say, oh you don't want to pay that much. That's great. Have a

1886
02:38:48,130 --> 02:38:53,490
lower bill. Have a lower bill. So I'm in support of some tiered rate options. I

1887
02:38:53,490 --> 02:38:57,130
think I lean option one, but I think I want some more information too.

1888
02:39:04,010 --> 02:39:04,410
I like the

1889
02:39:04,410 --> 02:39:10,010
The map that was coming to my mind was if we could get some neighborhood income maps and

1890
02:39:10,010 --> 02:39:11,610
overlay that with pressure zones.

1891
02:39:12,430 --> 02:39:15,130
I know we're not likely not going pressure zones immediately.

1892
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:22,630
But I think what we'll likely see is that we've got higher income areas that are in higher pressure

1893
02:39:22,630 --> 02:39:25,030
zones and need more infrastructure to serve those areas.

1894
02:39:25,510 --> 02:39:28,350
But I would actually like to see that data and see if that's an accurate assumption.

1895
02:39:28,350 --> 02:39:28,430
question.

1896
02:39:30,870 --> 02:39:32,430
I've got two more points.

1897
02:39:35,690 --> 02:39:39,450
Actually, no, I don't. I am done. Thank you. Oh, wait

1898
02:39:39,450 --> 02:39:46,670
one more point. Sure. Okay. Go ahead. The chart that showed the target of charging

1899
02:39:46,670 --> 02:39:52,490
based off of cost of service for a single family multi-family commercial is back towards

1900
02:39:52,490 --> 02:40:01,990
the beginning. Yeah, that one. I had the bar running across it. One that's very quickly.

1901
02:40:03,010 --> 02:40:07,130
It had the orange highlight right across the middle. This is slide 30. So this is not being

1902
02:40:07,130 --> 02:40:15,930
controlled from me. Oh, that one. Yeah, I like that. Okay, thank you. I like this slide a lot.

1903
02:40:17,290 --> 02:40:22,750
One of the higher level priorities for me would be balancing this out more. I think we've likely

1904
02:40:22,750 --> 02:40:27,890
We've got more renters and multifamily housing and I would like to pull the, the burden,

1905
02:40:28,190 --> 02:40:32,610
the cost burden that they're carrying down to be more in line with the rest and balance

1906
02:40:32,610 --> 02:40:33,270
that out a little bit.

1907
02:40:33,350 --> 02:40:34,270
So I really like this slide.

1908
02:40:34,330 --> 02:40:34,850
So thank you.

1909
02:40:35,350 --> 02:40:41,570
And just to assure you that that is accomplished through the rate design, it's not, it's not

1910
02:40:41,570 --> 02:40:46,050
called out specifically, but, but it is, it is set with that in mind.

1911
02:40:46,370 --> 02:40:46,550
Okay.

1912
02:40:46,690 --> 02:40:46,830
Great.

1913
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:47,190
Thank you.

1914
02:40:48,250 --> 02:40:57,450
Not to complicate your ask, but I think the other thing is right when we're talking about property tax revenue, we collect less property tax from multi-family housing.

1915
02:40:57,830 --> 02:41:07,050
So in our wanting to drive down the costs for them, the burden is already overly shared by single-family dwelling because of the system that we operate in.

1916
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:14,490
And so like that is something else to keep in mind when we're servicing debt that everyone is paying for, not to overly complicate your ask.

1917
02:41:15,270 --> 02:41:16,070
Councilor Hassan.

1918
02:41:20,140 --> 02:41:25,540
I am supportive of option one and I just say that because when I look

1919
02:41:25,540 --> 02:41:29,740
at the dollar amount of that versus option two, that's a really big jump. And I just

1920
02:41:29,740 --> 02:41:35,580
ask that whatever we decide, we commit to that because that is a shift to thinking that

1921
02:41:35,580 --> 02:41:40,400
we're going to be doing with water. I was going to ask for the average, a lot of my questions

1922
02:41:40,400 --> 02:41:46,660
were addressed, so I feel really good. I am curious if you jump to slide nine and you

1923
02:41:46,660 --> 02:41:49,520
I don't have to, but I will tell you it is the public outreach plan.

1924
02:41:50,400 --> 02:41:56,540
Can you share what are you doing with, are you giving them the same presentation, side nine?

1925
02:41:57,180 --> 02:41:57,980
No, we are not.

1926
02:41:58,160 --> 02:42:01,820
We have a very shortened presentation for our outreach plan.

1927
02:42:04,440 --> 02:42:10,020
Our discernment with the help of our sub-consultants is, I mean, they wouldn't ask me, right, I would give them a spreadsheet.

1928
02:42:10,020 --> 02:42:17,160
But our consultants recommended that we do a very abbreviated presentation where we bring

1929
02:42:17,160 --> 02:42:23,560
the two tiered rate options to these groups and just explain to them what tiered rates

1930
02:42:23,560 --> 02:42:29,060
mean, the two options of the gentle cost of service versus the more pure cost of service

1931
02:42:29,060 --> 02:42:33,080
that that's what the city council is considering and go from there.

1932
02:42:33,420 --> 02:42:34,440
See what the questions are.

1933
02:42:34,440 --> 02:42:43,800
So I'd like to hear from others. I think that's going to go over their heads. So I'm not trying to

1934
02:42:43,800 --> 02:42:51,600
like. No, they wrote they wrote fact sheets. We're going to have a website. Okay. Their presentation is

1935
02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:58,640
I'm not doing it justice. It's I wish Diane abolished was here. I mean she they did a very nice job. Yeah,

1936
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:03,580
It's very bullet-pointed, summarized, yeah.

1937
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:15,920
Okay. I mean, I'm a love our boards and I love our commissions and I love the people and I want to be thoughtful of how we're engaging with them, and what decisions they're going to get to make versus decisions that we have to make.

1938
02:43:16,500 --> 02:43:23,560
Yeah, it's more of an educational presentation versus soliciting specific desires.

1939
02:43:23,560 --> 02:43:27,980
You know what I think, so we talk about this a lot on the City Council.

1940
02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:34,560
Like we go out for public comment and feedback, but without a lot of understanding around

1941
02:43:34,560 --> 02:43:37,300
the concept of the idea, it's hard to get feedback.

1942
02:43:37,520 --> 02:43:40,300
We're struggling with it and we're people that are deep in this.

1943
02:43:40,740 --> 02:43:44,240
What I think would be interesting is water usage is public record.

1944
02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:47,520
You should pull the water usage of everyone in the room.

1945
02:43:47,580 --> 02:43:51,500
You don't have to tie it to who it is, but saying there are three people in this room that

1946
02:43:51,500 --> 02:43:52,180
use 20C.

1947
02:43:52,180 --> 02:43:53,780
Yeah, there's three people in the room that do this.

1948
02:43:54,220 --> 02:43:54,760
So they could have a,

1949
02:43:54,940 --> 02:43:57,160
because you're asking someone to make a decision

1950
02:43:57,160 --> 02:43:59,520
when they don't have any concept of what that means.

1951
02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:02,320
And that feedback is not going to help this board

1952
02:44:02,320 --> 02:44:03,400
make any decisions.

1953
02:44:04,720 --> 02:44:07,440
And I think what I would just say is like,

1954
02:44:09,560 --> 02:44:11,860
like the Willamette Water is one of, right,

1955
02:44:11,960 --> 02:44:13,380
like, and I sit on our water boards,

1956
02:44:13,540 --> 02:44:16,960
and I am very, you know, seasoned,

1957
02:44:17,220 --> 02:44:19,300
and I am still learning about the water.

1958
02:44:19,300 --> 02:44:25,080
And so if we can focus on the public outreach plan being more educational, which I think is what you're saying.

1959
02:44:25,220 --> 02:44:45,140
So that's a great, but even like taking a step back of like, well, I'm at water supply like Barney, like clean what I, that is not a aside from five, maybe three, maybe two, people that maybe sit on BCCI, they, they will not know the depth of what you're, what you're talking about respectfully.

1960
02:44:45,140 --> 02:44:52,040
So, I just, I like what my fellow councillor said, I like the map idea of the overlay.

1961
02:44:52,580 --> 02:44:56,080
I think I lean towards option one, it seems to make sense.

1962
02:44:56,460 --> 02:44:59,560
I want us to feel comfortable to pull up the bandaid.

1963
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,360
And I just, I want to move in that direction. I am very nervous if you are going to these folks and saying,

1964
02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:14,420
tear one, tear two, what do you think? It makes me anxious because we don't know what we think.

1965
02:45:15,160 --> 02:45:21,000
And we're asking folks to weigh in. And I have complete respect for these volunteers. I think this is just

1966
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:48,700
It's very technical, so if we can just think through how deep they're getting into this, it would really help, because if it's a tier one, if it's like a poll versus like tier one or two, which one do you, I mean, it's just, I am nervous as to how much and how this gets presented to those boards and commissions and what weight they truly have an influencing a decision that we will make in this room.

1967
02:45:49,500 --> 02:45:53,920
Sure, I appreciate those comments, and I probably did not do it justice.

1968
02:45:54,720 --> 02:46:01,080
So the firm that FCS is sub-consulted with Jessica Stanton and global communications have

1969
02:46:01,080 --> 02:46:06,500
scripted information for me to present to these groups, and I did not do it justice.

1970
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:12,240
It's more along the line of education and disclosure, you know, summing up that bevertness

1971
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:17,800
This is charges money for its water and this is why we charge the money and then we're

1972
02:46:17,800 --> 02:46:23,260
considering doing a restructuring that they might see changes in their bills and it's

1973
02:46:23,260 --> 02:46:28,180
part of the larger fiscal sustainability that the city is undergone, that where we want

1974
02:46:28,180 --> 02:46:33,200
to delve into the tiered rates, the City Council brought up, so that those lifeline users of

1975
02:46:33,200 --> 02:46:38,640
water that use a lower rate would be more affordable for them.

1976
02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:44,980
So the nature of the outreach is really more of a summation of what we've done here tonight and

1977
02:46:45,800 --> 02:46:48,480
disclosure that we are looking at restructuring our rates.

1978
02:46:49,100 --> 02:46:55,740
Okay, and I would add as we move to that, which we will thank you, just continuous education

1979
02:46:55,740 --> 02:47:00,100
for the residents, right? We're moving towards a tiered rate for these rate, right? And so I know that

1980
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:06,000
that doesn't need to happen tomorrow, but I think when this comes back to us like having an understanding

1981
02:47:06,000 --> 02:47:35,880
of what that educational plan will be as we make that decision will also be really critical so that folks understand in our community because to the mayor's point like we got some emails like I live on a hill like I shouldn't have to pay more and I'm like what are you even I mean so just the spin that happened from whatever was sent out to the community I'm not you know saying anyone's to blame for that but it was really funny to read some of the emails that we got people feeling some feels when when that is not what I've heard in this conversation for the most part so thank you very much I appreciate

1982
02:47:35,880 --> 02:47:42,280
the presentation. Councilor Edward, came in. It's getting late, guys. We still have two more

1983
02:47:42,280 --> 02:47:50,380
presentations. Okay, so major difference between Salem and here is about double, right? The rates

1984
02:47:50,380 --> 02:48:01,360
that we charge, that's because of what reason. CD of Salem, Eugene, everybody's costs of providing water

1985
02:48:01,360 --> 02:48:04,440
are different depending on, and I don't know why.

1986
02:48:04,740 --> 02:48:06,720
Right, so we don't-

1987
02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:07,520
Slide 26.

1988
02:48:08,500 --> 02:48:12,000
I just want to know why there's a major difference between the cities.

1989
02:48:13,040 --> 02:48:14,120
Couldn't begin to tell you.

1990
02:48:14,340 --> 02:48:14,660
I don't know.

1991
02:48:15,340 --> 02:48:16,940
Oh, okay.

1992
02:48:17,920 --> 02:48:21,520
Yeah, factors that would influence, it would be their customer base.

1993
02:48:21,660 --> 02:48:24,800
For example, Beaverton's customer base is very residential.

1994
02:48:24,940 --> 02:48:27,740
We don't have a lot of commercial industrial, unlike other communities.

1995
02:48:28,160 --> 02:48:29,760
It would be the cost of the infrastructure.

1996
02:48:30,700 --> 02:48:35,160
I'm not familiar with, yeah, I'm not familiar with Salem's infrastructure or source of water.

1997
02:48:35,640 --> 02:48:38,420
There's a number of different variables that influence their water rates.

1998
02:48:39,900 --> 02:48:41,600
So I'm going to jump in really quick.

1999
02:48:42,920 --> 02:48:49,320
I'm not familiar with most but 12 value water district as an example is that the most expensive site of this of this chart.

2000
02:48:49,800 --> 02:48:53,380
And they've bought into the highest percentage of the will and water supply system.

2001
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:55,820
So they're paying a much larger fee for that.

2002
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:56,620
That's my understanding.

2003
02:48:56,620 --> 02:49:26,600
Yes, and the City Council eight years ago, when we started pulling out, so this graph is why the City Council of the past made the decision under the banner of Beaverton residents get Beaverton Water because TVWD was making massive infrastructure investments that our residents, we saw this happening and if you lived in Waterhouse, you weren't going to really see anything change for you because what they were servicing was North of Bethany and building it out and asking their rate payers

2004
02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:27,760
to absorb the cost over it.

2005
02:49:27,860 --> 02:49:31,040
So that bar is what drove the city council

2006
02:49:31,040 --> 02:49:34,820
to have two or three years of water fights and a nutshell.

2007
02:49:35,380 --> 02:49:37,360
And other cities, it's all about the infrastructure

2008
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:38,700
and how they offset it.

2009
02:49:38,860 --> 02:49:41,060
So it's really, like we always put this up

2010
02:49:41,060 --> 02:49:42,260
as just a barometer,

2011
02:49:42,480 --> 02:49:44,440
but it is really not apples to apples in any way.

2012
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:45,820
Right, so I just wanted to ask that

2013
02:49:45,820 --> 02:49:47,740
because I think public will probably wonder

2014
02:49:48,580 --> 02:49:50,860
why are we paying so much compared to other city.

2015
02:49:51,440 --> 02:49:53,980
I mean, I could, because of infrastructure investments

2016
02:49:53,980 --> 02:49:54,720
that we are making,

2017
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:57,960
that's why we're investing toward the future.

2018
02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:00,700
So one thing I wanted to ask the future investments,

2019
02:50:01,300 --> 02:50:03,620
the infrastructure investments that we have made,

2020
02:50:03,780 --> 02:50:05,400
how long does it last, usually?

2021
02:50:06,900 --> 02:50:11,420
Water pipes generally last 100 years as our assumption

2022
02:50:11,420 --> 02:50:14,000
for the depreciation and I'm not sure

2023
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:18,460
about water treatment plants, but 50 years?

2024
02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:22,220
Yeah, so another reason why I'm asking this question

2025
02:50:22,220 --> 02:50:23,780
is they want to know what they're paying for.

2026
02:50:24,340 --> 02:50:27,080
and that we are paying toward the future of our water rights.

2027
02:50:27,740 --> 02:50:28,960
The hundred years down the road.

2028
02:50:29,960 --> 02:50:31,700
Another one more question is,

2029
02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:37,590
yes, we want to incentivize people with the tier rate.

2030
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:41,130
People who use less water, we pay less, more water and more.

2031
02:50:41,850 --> 02:50:44,490
But you came back and said about two years after

2032
02:50:45,330 --> 02:50:46,630
they use about the same.

2033
02:50:47,750 --> 02:50:51,730
But then what is the benefit of having tiered rates versus what we have right now

2034
02:50:51,730 --> 02:50:52,770
with higher rate?

2035
02:50:53,530 --> 02:51:01,590
It's more about the communicating with your price signal that reward for customers who

2036
02:51:01,590 --> 02:51:02,410
use less water.

2037
02:51:02,530 --> 02:51:04,610
The incentive is still there.

2038
02:51:05,270 --> 02:51:11,070
It's alignment of the rates with what you're trying to achieve in conservation.

2039
02:51:11,950 --> 02:51:18,790
And unfortunately, it doesn't necessarily change behavior over the long term what we've

2040
02:51:18,790 --> 02:51:22,030
seen, but there's still that reward and

2041
02:51:22,590 --> 02:51:23,110
disincentive.

2042
02:51:23,590 --> 02:51:25,730
So the folks who are using more are paying more,

2043
02:51:25,890 --> 02:51:27,710
and that's considered more affordable.

2044
02:51:28,270 --> 02:51:30,690
One last thing I want to just make a comment is that,

2045
02:51:30,910 --> 02:51:32,570
when we are building a Cooper Mountain,

2046
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:35,870
we're required to have irrigation system to water the

2047
02:51:35,870 --> 02:51:38,930
front lawn, which requires a lot of water already.

2048
02:51:39,650 --> 02:51:41,250
So maybe we should rethink that,

2049
02:51:41,690 --> 02:51:45,050
where I don't know we can dictate how they develop their land,

2050
02:51:45,050 --> 02:52:01,530
but we can incentivize that why don't we plant, try front lawns so you don't have to irrigate and make it green, because that's a lot of water and I'm surprised that purple pipe, I thought you pay less rate, but then you end up paying more.

2051
02:52:01,530 --> 02:52:11,090
You should pay less, which is, the reason we're recommending delaying implementation because it is a lower, it is a lower value commodity.

2052
02:52:11,350 --> 02:52:21,450
And so it will take some build out of the system for the cost structure to meet that condition, there's enough people to amortize it over.

2053
02:52:22,170 --> 02:52:23,290
Thank you, that's all I have.

2054
02:52:28,130 --> 02:52:33,770
I think some questions that I would have for maybe the next conversation that would help

2055
02:52:33,770 --> 02:52:41,870
me also make a decision or things about how do we see this actually impacting the potential

2056
02:52:41,870 --> 02:52:42,450
revenue, right?

2057
02:52:42,570 --> 02:52:47,110
I know a lot of what we're trying to, we have to cover our costs and understand how that

2058
02:52:47,110 --> 02:52:47,790
all comes together.

2059
02:52:48,130 --> 02:52:54,730
But I think when we see an example when we had the budget conversation, we're talking

2060
02:52:54,730 --> 02:52:59,710
like where does the dollar go to right and use the different breakdowns like kind of simply like

2061
02:52:59,710 --> 02:53:06,610
you need this amount of every dollar coming in to cover your operations you know like

2062
02:53:06,610 --> 02:53:10,730
there's a little bit of like a simplification of the story because I also said I want

2063
02:53:10,730 --> 02:53:15,930
of our water things I've I feel like I've read this I've seen this a lot and I'm honestly kind of

2064
02:53:15,930 --> 02:53:21,210
confused and I can't tell the benefit of option one or two whether that's to the city or to the

2065
02:53:21,210 --> 02:53:26,250
rate payer, you know, I'm a little bit confused on just the benefit there.

2066
02:53:26,650 --> 02:53:30,690
Other thing I really needed to clarify, and maybe this is something we can answer tonight, is

2067
02:53:32,230 --> 02:53:39,550
we have non-residential water users today, but the example of the tiered rates,

2068
02:53:39,790 --> 02:53:44,930
we talked about only applies to single-family, and you said because that's the primary consumer?

2069
02:53:50,320 --> 02:53:57,780
So commercial, non-residential and multi-family water use is less discretionary, basically.

2070
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:02,940
They're using what they need to use to do whatever their business does in general.

2071
02:54:03,360 --> 02:54:08,840
They're already sensitive to the price of water, that uniform price of water.

2072
02:54:08,840 --> 02:54:20,760
So historically, a tiered rate structure has not been effective when applied to non-residential water rates and same with multifamily.

2073
02:54:21,580 --> 02:54:31,060
It's single-family residences that peak dramatically in the summer because they start outdoor watering, washing cars, whatever they're doing.

2074
02:54:31,060 --> 02:54:37,420
And so tiered rates are generally applied only to the single family residential class.

2075
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:44,420
So the options we showed you include a uniform volume rate for multifamily,

2076
02:54:44,680 --> 02:54:49,680
for non-residential, the tiered rates would only apply to the single family residential rates.

2077
02:54:50,040 --> 02:54:55,340
So instead of a single rate structure like you have now, you would have different rates

2078
02:54:55,340 --> 02:55:02,440
for different classes, which I know sounds complicated, very common, billing systems routinely

2079
02:55:02,440 --> 02:55:03,380
deal with this.

2080
02:55:03,600 --> 02:55:09,100
In fact, what we see in Beaverton's rate structure is more of an anomaly now than different

2081
02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:11,720
rates for different classes because of the different demands.

2082
02:55:12,240 --> 02:55:14,220
So I hope that, I hope that you said that.

2083
02:55:14,220 --> 02:55:21,440
I think though, I mean, maybe this is just like in my head as a non-water expert and a non-water,

2084
02:55:21,640 --> 02:55:23,900
you know, like someone who doesn't study consumption and rates.

2085
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:29,100
that a multi-family facility or a non-residential facility,

2086
02:55:29,560 --> 02:55:33,320
like if it's any sort of commercial area,

2087
02:55:33,660 --> 02:55:35,260
like they also have irrigation.

2088
02:55:35,880 --> 02:55:39,020
There's also, there is non-discretionary water use

2089
02:55:39,020 --> 02:55:41,620
and so I don't know why other,

2090
02:55:41,820 --> 02:55:44,000
like we wouldn't have in like that, you know,

2091
02:55:44,120 --> 02:55:45,520
and maybe it's too hard to say,

2092
02:55:45,620 --> 02:55:47,860
but I know like we use like a calculation around

2093
02:55:48,520 --> 02:55:50,820
like how we determine our sewer rates, right?

2094
02:55:50,820 --> 02:55:54,120
is like you compare your kind of year-round consumption

2095
02:55:54,120 --> 02:55:58,060
and then you, I don't remember, it's average,

2096
02:55:58,260 --> 02:55:59,700
or you take the winter rate or something, right?

2097
02:56:00,220 --> 02:56:01,340
Yeah, because like in the summertime,

2098
02:56:01,340 --> 02:56:02,580
if you're using for irrigation,

2099
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:07,780
that water's not going through the processing

2100
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:09,340
of the sewage, right?

2101
02:56:10,040 --> 02:56:14,200
So, like logic tells me that all these other classes

2102
02:56:14,200 --> 02:56:17,680
of folks also have non-discretionary water use

2103
02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:25,260
and that, you know, we also do want to incentivize their like that balancing of we've got to pay for

2104
02:56:25,260 --> 02:56:30,680
this investment we've made into our water infrastructure and covering operational costs and

2105
02:56:30,680 --> 02:56:36,480
incentivizing that while it's probably been like 10 inches like in the last day, right? I mean,

2106
02:56:36,640 --> 02:56:41,300
while I understand it feels like we live in a place of abundance like there have been many droughts

2107
02:56:41,300 --> 02:56:45,980
in my lifetime in Oregon. So it's not like I don't want us to take it for granted and that's I think

2108
02:56:45,980 --> 02:56:52,340
for me, a motivator in putting in a tiered structure was to say, like, yeah, if you're

2109
02:56:52,340 --> 02:56:58,700
this chart, that one chart, it looks like somebody's got 100 CCFs, that's wild, as a single

2110
02:56:58,700 --> 02:57:05,020
family resident. So that person should be paying a heck of a lot more money than someone

2111
02:57:05,020 --> 02:57:11,120
who's like bathing and drinking water, right? So that, to me, is like also the balance

2112
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:14,920
and like recognizing that the majority of the information we have is single family, I would

2113
02:57:14,920 --> 02:57:24,050
be curious to see like is there a revenue impact in the other areas because for me just

2114
02:57:24,050 --> 02:57:29,190
logic says there has to be more out there to help cover our costs by these other types

2115
02:57:29,190 --> 02:57:36,450
of users. So these rate structure options are all designed to recover exactly the same

2116
02:57:36,450 --> 02:57:43,070
amount of revenue. So even if you went to a tiered rate structure for non-residential,

2117
02:57:43,070 --> 02:57:48,810
the way that we are developing the rates based on the revenue requirement first and the cost of service.

2118
02:57:49,590 --> 02:57:55,850
It would still recover the same amount of revenue as the options we're showing you now.

2119
02:57:56,010 --> 02:57:57,350
It's calculated to do that.

2120
02:57:59,670 --> 02:58:05,950
We would be happy to put together a commercial tiered option.

2121
02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:10,050
There are lots of other reasons not to do that.

2122
02:58:10,050 --> 02:58:15,990
That in my opinion, one of them is if you think of different types of commercial customers

2123
02:58:16,690 --> 02:58:21,450
unlike single family residences where yeah, you have lots of different types of single

2124
02:58:21,450 --> 02:58:26,950
family residences large and small, but they're generally they don't vary that much.

2125
02:58:27,230 --> 02:58:34,050
When you think of just the size of different apartment complexes and multifamily complexes,

2126
02:58:34,090 --> 02:58:39,970
how much they differ within that class, non-residential same thing, you could have a laundry

2127
02:58:39,970 --> 02:58:52,290
and a grocery store, and they might have the same meter size, but they're running a whole different volume of water through there just because of the type of business.

2128
02:58:53,150 --> 02:59:01,530
And that water is not discretionary. They need that for their business. They're running the same amount through their year round.

2129
02:59:01,530 --> 02:59:10,310
And that's one of the reasons that a tiered structure just isn't as well applied to non-residential

2130
02:59:10,690 --> 02:59:11,710
or multi-family.

2131
02:59:12,130 --> 02:59:18,510
They often do have irrigation, but they also have separate irrigation meters at times.

2132
02:59:18,510 --> 02:59:23,670
I don't know how common those are in the city, but the separate irrigation meter is what

2133
02:59:23,670 --> 02:59:25,550
they will use to do their out or watering.

2134
02:59:25,550 --> 02:59:33,830
Again, their year round usage of, you know, through the domestic meter is pretty uniform.

2135
02:59:34,290 --> 02:59:40,510
It goes up a little bit in the summer, but single family goes up dramatically in the summer.

2136
02:59:40,750 --> 02:59:43,970
And that's where, and they're 90% of your customers.

2137
02:59:44,190 --> 02:59:47,270
So that's where the biggest bang for the buck is.

2138
02:59:47,630 --> 02:59:48,010
Thank you.

2139
02:59:48,210 --> 02:59:51,010
That was very helpful for me to just have a better understanding.

2140
02:59:51,010 --> 02:59:59,510
I think there's kind of maybe that like outlier surcharge that I would be interested in as like a supplemental thing right where it's like if you are

2141
03:00:03,200 --> 03:00:29,680
We're going to charge you for it. You can't be that kind of water user, right? So, I think that would maybe be something that would help me feel a little bit better about catching the outlier, understanding that there's different ways. And I think it's also helpful to think about it from that kind of the water classes, right? These class of users and changing the system to kind of account for that would actually help us get to the end goal as well.

2142
03:00:30,700 --> 03:00:35,700
Well, and I think, too, one of the things we didn't really talk about is like, why?

2143
03:00:35,940 --> 03:00:39,980
But to Councillor Teeter's point, we're not running out of water.

2144
03:00:40,200 --> 03:00:43,140
I mean, from an environmental standpoint, we're making that argument, but growing up in

2145
03:00:43,140 --> 03:00:45,500
Southern California, where they literally would run out of water.

2146
03:00:45,720 --> 03:00:50,500
So you couldn't water and irrigate, so we want to make sure that we're solving the right

2147
03:00:50,500 --> 03:00:51,160
problem here.

2148
03:00:51,300 --> 03:00:54,540
The reason we started this wasn't to try to reduce water consumption.

2149
03:00:54,540 --> 03:00:59,040
and it was to make sure that people that were using a lot of it were paying their fair share.

2150
03:00:59,800 --> 03:01:05,380
And the majority of this conversation is bound conservation when that's not really the problem we're trying to solve.

2151
03:01:05,720 --> 03:01:08,640
But I agree with you and I think in most cities your assumption is correct.

2152
03:01:09,060 --> 03:01:16,100
We have an overpopulation of multifamily housing here that all have gigantic lawns that they irrigate that I do not think have a separate irrigation meter.

2153
03:01:16,700 --> 03:01:19,800
And so that is just some information that would be helpful for us to know.

2154
03:01:20,940 --> 03:01:27,660
While you've heard a lot of opinions tonight, thank you for staying with us till 9 p.m. to share them with us and we look forward to future conversations.

2155
03:01:28,220 --> 03:01:28,780
Thank you so much.

2156
03:01:28,980 --> 03:01:29,080
Yeah.

2157
03:01:29,560 --> 03:01:34,760
And let's take a little bit of a five minute break for our next two presentation and realize what time it is.

2158
03:01:34,880 --> 03:01:36,620
So let's think about how we're.

2159
03:07:25,660 --> 03:07:29,640
Hello, the Gavils already get back in your seat.

2160
03:07:29,800 --> 03:07:30,620
You had your option.

2161
03:07:32,500 --> 03:07:33,260
All right.

2162
03:07:33,260 --> 03:07:37,920
Right, I do think, is this your first presentation to us about the agenda?

2163
03:07:38,680 --> 03:07:38,920
Yes.

2164
03:07:39,300 --> 03:07:45,680
Okay, so we have two first timers tonight, and hopefully we can give you that third timer jacket in the near future.

2165
03:07:45,880 --> 03:07:49,180
But here we are for your first presentation to us.

2166
03:07:49,280 --> 03:07:52,520
If you caught that joke, you're probably my friend with that.

2167
03:07:52,960 --> 03:07:53,660
The floor is yours.

2168
03:07:54,480 --> 03:07:54,980
Thank you.

2169
03:07:56,060 --> 03:08:02,360
The work at Johnson Blake, government relations manager, I'm here to talk today about our draft state legislative framework.

2170
03:08:02,360 --> 03:08:08,320
I am joined online by Joel Rubin, our federal lobbyist from CFM Advocates.

2171
03:08:08,580 --> 03:08:15,970
So I would like to point out that it is midnight his time and just thank him publicly

2172
03:08:15,970 --> 03:08:19,030
for staying online and being with us today.

2173
03:08:19,670 --> 03:08:24,730
And I'll let him introduce himself when we get to his part of the presentation.

2174
03:08:26,110 --> 03:08:29,690
So I'm just going to start us off by orienting us where we are today.

2175
03:08:30,030 --> 03:08:31,790
We're coming into a long session.

2176
03:08:31,790 --> 03:08:34,610
and today's work session is prepping us

2177
03:08:34,610 --> 03:08:37,810
for potential adoption of the legislative framework

2178
03:08:37,810 --> 03:08:39,330
on December 10th.

2179
03:08:39,330 --> 03:08:41,310
That will give staff adequate time

2180
03:08:41,310 --> 03:08:44,210
before a January 21st start date.

2181
03:08:44,810 --> 03:08:49,010
And then the session adjourns on June 28th,

2182
03:08:49,010 --> 03:08:51,430
which is Sinie Di, the constitutional mandate.

2183
03:08:51,670 --> 03:08:51,990
It's fine.

2184
03:08:55,410 --> 03:08:57,900
So I'll have this at the end to very straightforward.

2185
03:08:58,260 --> 03:08:59,860
I have one question for you today.

2186
03:09:00,220 --> 03:09:02,060
Are there changes that you would like to see

2187
03:09:02,060 --> 03:09:05,400
to this framework before adoption on December 10th,

2188
03:09:06,060 --> 03:09:08,380
and I'll have this at the end, too, for our consideration.

2189
03:09:10,240 --> 03:09:13,320
So the framework you have before you actually has four

2190
03:09:13,320 --> 03:09:16,160
different columns, but for the presentation today,

2191
03:09:16,380 --> 03:09:18,800
I put them into two just to kind of streamline

2192
03:09:18,800 --> 03:09:20,400
what we're going to be talking about.

2193
03:09:21,140 --> 03:09:24,540
And I want to make a note here at the top that today,

2194
03:09:24,540 --> 03:09:26,920
I'm really going to go over high priority bills

2195
03:09:26,920 --> 03:09:29,220
that we're seeing coming down the pipeline

2196
03:09:29,220 --> 03:09:35,880
and what a lot of the air in the room, if you will, at the state legislature is going to be spent on.

2197
03:09:36,580 --> 03:09:43,460
However, we do anticipate 2,500 bills, so just because we're not talking about them today does not

2198
03:09:43,460 --> 03:09:51,240
mean that we won't be monitoring them for impacts to Beaverton. And while we'll adopt the framework

2199
03:09:51,240 --> 03:09:58,820
in December, if anything changes or anything unanticipated comes between now and the end of session,

2200
03:09:58,820 --> 03:10:09,720
We will be touching base with you, and when I say we, CFM advocates, are lobbyists in the building, both state and federally, so you will see them around as well.

2201
03:10:10,700 --> 03:10:18,900
So the two priorities that I have for us today, land use, sustainability, and housing, and then infrastructure and economic development.

2202
03:10:18,900 --> 03:10:24,080
As you can see, these are very broad and they are going to cover quite a few things, so

2203
03:10:24,080 --> 03:10:29,060
I'm going to go over some specific bills, but I'm also happy to answer questions about

2204
03:10:29,060 --> 03:10:31,700
any policy items that we don't touch on today.

2205
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:39,800
So jumping right into land use sustainability and housing, we are anticipating a housing

2206
03:10:39,800 --> 03:10:40,320
package.

2207
03:10:40,620 --> 03:10:45,500
It is still the governor's priority around housing and especially middle housing.

2208
03:10:45,840 --> 03:10:50,560
We've already been seeing some language coming out and engaging with the governor's

2209
03:10:50,560 --> 03:10:56,440
office on this. However, we do have a couple priorities within that housing bubble.

2210
03:10:56,980 --> 03:11:04,180
So our first priority is while we support the, and according to the framework, continuing

2211
03:11:04,180 --> 03:11:09,280
to talk about housing, we're also conscious that a lot has been done over the last few

2212
03:11:09,280 --> 03:11:16,880
sessions. And we're asking for a small pause in any major changes to housing policy to

2213
03:11:16,880 --> 03:11:25,160
allow staff time to adopt code changes and bring them before you, as well as allowing

2214
03:11:25,160 --> 03:11:29,760
it to play out on the ground so we can continue to come back to the session and engage with

2215
03:11:29,760 --> 03:11:34,960
them on what we're seeing and further policy using examples from the field.

2216
03:11:36,620 --> 03:11:43,220
The other priority that we have and I have it up here is the dash four. This is something

2217
03:11:43,220 --> 03:11:47,980
that staff worked on with the governor's office last session, but unfortunately didn't make

2218
03:11:47,980 --> 03:11:52,500
it into Senate Bill 1537, we're really hopeful to bring this back again.

2219
03:11:53,160 --> 03:11:57,320
And this is a focus on infrastructure as it relates to housing production.

2220
03:11:57,920 --> 03:12:04,140
So specific to Beaverton, we're talking about infrastructure that is system wide, that

2221
03:12:04,140 --> 03:12:06,940
helps move housing production along.

2222
03:12:07,460 --> 03:12:12,520
So in that context last session, we talked about the camera booster pump station, which we were

2223
03:12:12,520 --> 03:12:18,920
very successful in securing $3 million dollars. But we're also talking about larger loan and grant

2224
03:12:18,920 --> 03:12:25,260
programs that other cities could also access. And we've modeled this kind of off of the WIFIA

2225
03:12:25,260 --> 03:12:30,820
program but something a little bit smaller and more accessible to cities who don't maybe have

2226
03:12:30,820 --> 03:12:36,860
the capital for something quite that large but would also be a resource for Beaverton in the

2227
03:12:36,860 --> 03:12:43,600
future throughout Cooper Mountain. I also rolled into this House Bill 3115. This does

2228
03:12:43,600 --> 03:12:50,920
span a lot of different categories, but as it relates to housing, we are anticipating

2229
03:12:50,920 --> 03:12:56,840
to see that come back this session. There's been a variety, and as you know, cities are

2230
03:12:56,840 --> 03:13:04,200
across the board on this issue, so it will be a very diverse conversation. However, part

2231
03:13:04,200 --> 03:13:10,380
Part of that conversation has been about repealing House Bill 3115 as it relates to the most

2232
03:13:10,380 --> 03:13:12,040
recent Supreme Court ruling.

2233
03:13:12,660 --> 03:13:18,880
So we are prepared to engage in those conversations to around Beaverton's most recent code updates.

2234
03:13:22,500 --> 03:13:28,140
So moving to infrastructure and economic development, it is going to be a transportation session.

2235
03:13:28,540 --> 03:13:34,720
So this is going to be a big focus for most of the legislators and staff in the building.

2236
03:13:35,340 --> 03:13:50,980
This is going to be a little different transportation session than we saw previously, so as you'll remember our last transportation session was House Bill 2017, where a lot of very large projects came out and we're seeing it on 217 currently.

2237
03:13:51,880 --> 03:13:59,020
This is more going to be focused on maintenance and operation and what the backlog looks like for the state and local governments.

2238
03:13:59,020 --> 03:14:06,840
So our approach is really tailored here that you'll see about what it looks like to backfill

2239
03:14:06,840 --> 03:14:14,280
for us and also what it looks like to bring our transportation system into the future and not

2240
03:14:14,280 --> 03:14:20,260
be so reliant on fuel's tax that is becoming decreasing commodity every day with electric vehicles.

2241
03:14:20,860 --> 03:14:27,180
So there's already been robust conversations around the road usage charge program and how we start

2242
03:14:27,180 --> 03:14:35,160
that transition. And a very big focus on active transportation options and what that looks

2243
03:14:35,160 --> 03:14:40,780
like for both the state and local streets and the diversion that happens between the two.

2244
03:14:41,920 --> 03:14:48,620
Up here, one of the founding principles that we're looking to go off of is opposition to any deviation

2245
03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:57,600
away from the 50, 30, 20 funding model, which is how our state highway fund is divvied up and is a bulk of

2246
03:14:57,600 --> 03:14:59,880
Beaverton's revenue when it comes to straight funds.

2247
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,760
I added a lodging tax reform in this, and the connection here is there will be a bill that would open up options for how we use TLT funds, and it would allow for expanded uses of when we think about impacts of tourism. So that could look like infrastructure. It could look like roads sewer water to accommodate increased tourism in cities.

2248
03:15:29,760 --> 03:15:37,660
And the last I'm here with infrastructure is franchise fees and permit authority over

2249
03:15:37,660 --> 03:15:38,320
the right of way.

2250
03:15:38,600 --> 03:15:46,160
We do anticipate a robust conversation around the new model cities are using, Beaverton

2251
03:15:46,160 --> 03:15:53,660
changed over from franchise agreements to right of way ordinance in 2016 and this is going

2252
03:15:53,660 --> 03:16:00,020
to be a topic of conversation of how our utility providers are transitioning with us

2253
03:16:00,500 --> 03:16:04,340
and there's also going to be potential talk around shop clocks and permitting.

2254
03:16:04,660 --> 03:16:06,540
So we're anticipating both of those things.

2255
03:16:10,820 --> 03:16:14,260
So I won't go into too extensive detail.

2256
03:16:14,440 --> 03:16:17,400
I know it's a little wonky of a map, but I will bring up.

2257
03:16:17,400 --> 03:16:22,440
We do have one capital construction asked currently that we've been workshopping.

2258
03:16:22,440 --> 03:16:28,680
it's a sewer line everybody's favorite conversation on the corner of Murray

2259
03:16:28,680 --> 03:16:35,660
in Scholes Ferry. It is an older sewer line that runs under a beautiful pond in

2260
03:16:35,660 --> 03:16:42,260
front of a restaurant that has what I like to call a projectile fountain. So this

2261
03:16:42,260 --> 03:16:49,660
older sewer line runs under an unlined pond and there is risk for future leakage

2262
03:16:49,660 --> 03:16:57,000
if you will, but we also found the opportunity that if we up size that line, it has the

2263
03:16:57,000 --> 03:17:04,340
ability to serve an additional conservative 800 units on the top of Cooper, and I want

2264
03:17:04,340 --> 03:17:08,920
to add that this kind of builds on the camera booster pump station conversation that we had

2265
03:17:08,920 --> 03:17:15,100
last year that we're trying to figure out what are all of our options for spurring development

2266
03:17:15,100 --> 03:17:20,900
across all of Cooper and not having to wait for the bottom to develop up but

2267
03:17:20,900 --> 03:17:28,320
giving them connection points that already exist if we can. And a little caveat

2268
03:17:28,320 --> 03:17:32,540
to that we're also talking with our partners in the area because this seems to be

2269
03:17:32,540 --> 03:17:37,180
a very good regional project so we've seen some interest there as well. And we're

2270
03:17:37,180 --> 03:17:43,100
using a different technology to do that. We are and we can talk about slip

2271
03:17:43,100 --> 03:17:50,060
lining and I know Tim's in here and he'll like nudge me if I get something wrong but it's very

2272
03:17:50,060 --> 03:17:56,460
creative especially since it's under a pond. We don't really want to dig up a pond if we don't

2273
03:17:56,460 --> 03:18:03,040
have to. So we have the ability to kind of if you think of an angioplasty on a heart we thread it

2274
03:18:03,040 --> 03:18:10,300
through and we burst the pipe and it bursts out and we thread the new pipe through. It's a lot more

2275
03:18:10,300 --> 03:18:14,860
environmentally sensitive because we're taking up a much smaller footprint than having

2276
03:18:14,860 --> 03:18:19,700
to trench through and it would maintain the integrity of the pond at the same time.

2277
03:18:20,460 --> 03:18:25,820
And we're able to actually thread a larger pipe than what was there before.

2278
03:18:26,260 --> 03:18:30,800
So it's really neat and we've already had requests from legislators to come watch it happen.

2279
03:18:31,180 --> 03:18:36,800
So we might have to have a pre ribbon cutting on the pipe first thing if we move forward.

2280
03:18:36,800 --> 03:18:42,940
So, with that, and before we transition to the federal piece, I'll have this question

2281
03:18:42,940 --> 03:18:47,620
up and I'm happy to answer any questions about the state framework before I turn it over

2282
03:18:47,620 --> 03:18:47,980
to Joel.

2283
03:18:48,860 --> 03:18:55,780
Thank you for the framework, Jocelyn, and doing something cool and unique in water has

2284
03:18:55,780 --> 03:19:01,220
been kind of our bread and butter, and we pre-shopped this idea around and people are pretty excited

2285
03:19:01,220 --> 03:19:01,820
about it.

2286
03:19:02,060 --> 03:19:06,660
I also think it has other applications in the city, so it's like an investment in our

2287
03:19:06,660 --> 03:19:08,240
future way to do this work.

2288
03:19:10,320 --> 03:19:14,900
The mayor's outside of our framework meet and talk a lot about the legislature, and

2289
03:19:14,900 --> 03:19:16,560
it's going to be a tough year for cities.

2290
03:19:17,180 --> 03:19:19,360
We've already been meeting in earnest with the governor.

2291
03:19:19,560 --> 03:19:21,540
We've been meeting with the mayor's collectively.

2292
03:19:22,000 --> 03:19:25,000
The threat of losing federal funding is very real.

2293
03:19:25,620 --> 03:19:30,020
And the type of federal funding we've been very successful at getting around infrastructure

2294
03:19:30,580 --> 03:19:34,300
is going to do the same work that the governor's asking us to do.

2295
03:19:34,300 --> 03:19:36,180
build house, build roads, do this.

2296
03:19:36,720 --> 03:19:41,400
And so I think we're going to spend the majority of the session in defense mode about

2297
03:19:41,400 --> 03:19:47,020
protecting city resources and making sure that the legislature doesn't put more unfunded

2298
03:19:47,020 --> 03:19:50,740
mandates on top of us or expect us to do the same amount of work.

2299
03:19:50,880 --> 03:19:54,840
I mean, we just had a very lengthy conversation about our budget constraints as they are.

2300
03:19:55,180 --> 03:19:58,160
They will get exponentially worse with the loss of federal revenue.

2301
03:19:58,160 --> 03:20:13,080
and so why we do have one capital construction asked, the majority of what I think we're going to be doing is defending that and defending the city's position on revenue the 40 30 20 because right now it's at great risk of losing it

2302
03:20:13,080 --> 03:20:24,120
and if we lose that piece our ability to do anything so as much as I like to be in Salem doing sexy things we might get one shot at Schitt's Creek and nothing else so just keep that in mind.

2303
03:20:24,980 --> 03:20:25,740
Councillor Hassan.

2304
03:20:25,740 --> 03:20:26,500
Yes,

2305
03:20:28,900 --> 03:20:31,700
thank you. We're talking about state and then we're going to move to federal.

2306
03:20:32,120 --> 03:20:41,280
Okay, so I have an ask. It isn't super sexy, but given what's happening nationally,

2307
03:20:41,820 --> 03:20:45,580
we've had a lot of groups that are starting to convene to talking, like, talking about protecting

2308
03:20:45,580 --> 03:20:50,160
civil rights. I don't think that there's like an ask, ask. It's more like adding language

2309
03:20:50,700 --> 03:20:54,780
around in our legislative agenda where we are looking to protect the civil agenda and reproductive

2310
03:20:54,780 --> 03:20:59,120
of our immigrant refugee, LGBTQ plus and other historically excluded communities.

2311
03:20:59,900 --> 03:21:04,100
What I'm hearing from legislators is that is something they are already working on.

2312
03:21:05,260 --> 03:21:08,680
I think people are still in shock, well I know people are still in shock over what happened.

2313
03:21:08,900 --> 03:21:14,620
So this is already happening at the state level, but I think it would go a big way if we just had that language.

2314
03:21:15,020 --> 03:21:18,720
I don't know that there's any specific asks yet, but

2315
03:21:18,720 --> 03:21:24,280
I do think that it's important that we have that language because it is possible

2316
03:21:24,280 --> 03:21:25,800
that those civil rights will be at risk.

2317
03:21:25,960 --> 03:21:28,520
I do think the state will take it probably,

2318
03:21:28,920 --> 03:21:30,640
but I think it's helpful to have that language

2319
03:21:30,640 --> 03:21:32,780
to show our community that we're thinking about it.

2320
03:21:37,520 --> 03:21:38,360
Councillor Kimmy,

2321
03:21:45,080 --> 03:21:45,960
you don't want to talk?

2322
03:21:47,180 --> 03:21:47,980
That was from earlier.

2323
03:21:48,460 --> 03:21:49,840
Oh, okay, sorry, go ahead.

2324
03:21:49,860 --> 03:21:51,380
That's okay, it just jumped.

2325
03:21:51,860 --> 03:21:54,120
Yeah, so Councillor Hussain just to clarify

2326
03:21:54,120 --> 03:21:57,440
that where our state engages in protections

2327
03:21:57,440 --> 03:21:59,080
making sure that we reach in support.

2328
03:22:00,320 --> 03:22:01,460
I'm comfortable with that.

2329
03:22:03,580 --> 03:22:04,760
Yeah, I think we need to do it

2330
03:22:04,760 --> 03:22:08,000
in a defensive mode versus like an offensive mode,

2331
03:22:08,160 --> 03:22:12,920
because we have no jurisdiction over those,

2332
03:22:13,160 --> 03:22:15,260
and so there's no way for us to like do it,

2333
03:22:15,300 --> 03:22:17,760
but if it was supporting partners in what they were doing,

2334
03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:20,380
I think we have a real exit central threat

2335
03:22:20,380 --> 03:22:22,400
to a lot of our democracy right now.

2336
03:22:22,600 --> 03:22:24,200
So I think we have to be careful,

2337
03:22:24,620 --> 03:22:26,560
and we can put it in the framework,

2338
03:22:26,580 --> 03:22:28,220
and Jocelyn, I can be watching bills,

2339
03:22:28,220 --> 03:22:29,640
and I think it's important for you guys

2340
03:22:29,640 --> 03:22:32,480
all belong to different groups than we do,

2341
03:22:32,480 --> 03:22:37,080
so as things are bubbly not letting us know where they're at so we can put our energy there.

2342
03:22:38,180 --> 03:22:42,180
I mean I'll just add like I know that people are working on some of this so I will be advocating

2343
03:22:42,180 --> 03:22:46,480
and I'm happy to share with the council but this is really critical given all the communities that

2344
03:22:46,480 --> 03:22:53,780
will likely be impacted. Councillor Teeter. Thanks, Jocelyn. You might not get too many comments

2345
03:22:53,780 --> 03:22:58,120
from us tonight looks like but I would say that's because you've done a really good job with this

2346
03:22:58,120 --> 03:23:02,080
And I feel like it's in line with a lot of things that I would like to see in it.

2347
03:23:02,420 --> 03:23:06,260
It is disappointing that it will be in defense mode, but that's not anything we can control.

2348
03:23:06,480 --> 03:23:11,660
So we can control it, we can control it, and I think that's just protecting our effectiveness

2349
03:23:11,660 --> 03:23:18,060
as a city and respectability and responsibility for our community.

2350
03:23:18,780 --> 03:23:22,600
And I would support Councillor Hussain this idea that she's shared just now.

2351
03:23:23,440 --> 03:23:24,260
Councillor Tiffon.

2352
03:23:27,020 --> 03:23:30,620
This is the reason I like the council one-on-ones

2353
03:23:30,620 --> 03:23:34,960
that we get in between the meetings is to have time to think about these things.

2354
03:23:35,440 --> 03:23:40,640
You did a great presentation then, and I didn't think of anything between then and

2355
03:23:40,640 --> 03:23:45,960
now that I think needs to be shifted. I'd just like to say, like coming to the close

2356
03:23:45,960 --> 03:23:52,400
of my fourth year, which is weird to think it's been that long, I finally have fully grasped

2357
03:23:52,400 --> 03:24:01,660
and understand and appreciate exactly how a city wags the dog on a state level and I think that

2358
03:24:01,660 --> 03:24:08,640
the lenses that have been chosen and the strategy behind these and how they tie to what we're working

2359
03:24:08,640 --> 03:24:14,520
on is the right mix and especially knowing when to go offensive, when to go defensive and

2360
03:24:15,160 --> 03:24:18,400
just making sure that all the pieces on the chessboard are where they should be

2361
03:24:18,400 --> 03:24:20,560
to the best advantage we have.

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03:24:21,240 --> 03:24:23,140
So I feel pretty confident about this.

2363
03:24:23,340 --> 03:24:24,180
No changes from me.

2364
03:24:24,380 --> 03:24:24,720
Thank you.

2365
03:24:25,480 --> 03:24:27,940
High compliments, Jocelyn, on the framework

2366
03:24:27,940 --> 03:24:29,660
from you're hearing from the council.

2367
03:24:29,980 --> 03:24:31,300
And I know that you worked really hard

2368
03:24:31,300 --> 03:24:33,100
in the one-on-ones and bringing us together.

2369
03:24:33,380 --> 03:24:35,640
And she is an endless meetings with the LOC,

2370
03:24:35,960 --> 03:24:37,980
with other groups, keeping her eye on the ground,

2371
03:24:38,220 --> 03:24:39,340
lots of transportation meetings.

2372
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:43,460
So I know it's not fun and sexy to be in the mode we're in,

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03:24:43,620 --> 03:24:47,160
but we are at our peak influence right now as a city

2374
03:24:47,160 --> 03:24:50,280
and people deeply care about where Beaverton is on issues.

2375
03:24:50,440 --> 03:24:51,980
And a lot of that is your work, Jocelyn.

2376
03:24:52,480 --> 03:24:54,860
So we're ready to move to the federal framework.

2377
03:24:58,880 --> 03:24:59,800
And there's you.

2378
03:25:00,560 --> 03:25:01,780
You can take it away, Joel.

2379
03:25:03,400 --> 03:25:04,940
All right, thanks so much, Jocelyn.

2380
03:25:05,800 --> 03:25:07,960
And I think I can share my screen, though.

2381
03:25:08,020 --> 03:25:09,200
I'll do that in a second before.

2382
03:25:09,480 --> 03:25:13,200
I just want to thank Jocelyn for all her help

2383
03:25:13,200 --> 03:25:16,280
and support in getting the federal agenda

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03:25:16,280 --> 03:25:21,940
where it is today. I want to thank the mayor for all her hard work in advocating for the

2385
03:25:21,940 --> 03:25:28,600
city's priorities. Back in Washington DC, she's been amazing back here and you'll see a lot

2386
03:25:28,600 --> 03:25:35,320
of the successes that we've had this year are in large measure due to her advocacy and thank the

2387
03:25:35,320 --> 03:25:42,180
council and the staff for everything that you all do to put together. Comprehensive agendas that

2388
03:25:42,180 --> 03:25:47,160
have projects and policy items that really fit with the priorities of your

2389
03:25:47,160 --> 03:25:52,360
congressional delegation but also the federal government's program. So just

2390
03:25:52,360 --> 03:25:56,560
thank you at the beginning and then I'll share my screen here and

2391
03:26:04,210 --> 03:26:04,530
I'm going to

2392
03:26:04,530 --> 03:26:08,270
turn this into slideshow.

2393
03:26:11,700 --> 03:26:12,860
Hopefully you all can see that.

2394
03:26:15,060 --> 03:26:16,120
Just so that I can only see

2395
03:26:16,120 --> 03:26:21,920
you. So give me a thumbs up if that's okay we're good. All right so what I'm

2396
03:26:21,920 --> 03:26:27,580
going to be talking about tonight is the recent successes that we've had together at

2397
03:26:27,580 --> 03:26:33,840
the federal level. Discuss your federal draft agenda. This is the initial draft that we've

2398
03:26:33,840 --> 03:26:44,820
been working on with your team. The election outcome and then preview of 2025 after the

2399
03:26:44,820 --> 03:26:51,300
election and what that means for us. The word defensive is definitely going to be a parent

2400
03:26:51,300 --> 03:26:55,560
in my presentations at the federal level with the outcome of the election.

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03:26:56,800 --> 03:27:02,460
The City of Beaverton has done an amazing job at the federal level of being successful

2402
03:27:02,800 --> 03:27:07,220
and advocating for your project and policy items.

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03:27:08,500 --> 03:27:20,400
In doing research on some of the city's statewide, it's clear the City of Beaverton is batting

2404
03:27:20,400 --> 03:27:29,180
above its its weight in terms of successes. What you'll see here is in 2024. If you have one

2405
03:27:29,180 --> 03:27:39,080
successful earmark project that's considered success. You all have four pending successful projects

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03:27:40,080 --> 03:27:50,300
in front of Congress to date totaling $15.5 million. Congresswoman Bonamichi was able to

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03:27:50,300 --> 03:27:57,380
care $3 million for the Senior Housing and Community Space Project, which is a really

2408
03:27:57,380 --> 03:28:03,800
exciting project in your downtown to make sure that there's affordable housing and

2409
03:28:03,800 --> 03:28:10,340
space for childcare in your downtown, which is sorely needed across the Pacific Northwest.

2410
03:28:11,240 --> 03:28:17,160
So she was able to provide $3 million in the House Appropriations Bill for the Senior Housing

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03:28:17,160 --> 03:28:17,700
project.

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03:28:19,900 --> 03:28:27,460
Congresswoman Salinas, I'm going to skip the NTLI, was able to secure $500,000

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03:28:27,460 --> 03:28:34,160
for the Behavioral Health Court in the House Appropriations Bill. This is one of the more

2414
03:28:34,160 --> 03:28:40,600
important behavioral health diversion programs that help the most vulnerable in the city.

2415
03:28:40,600 --> 03:28:46,660
And so really appreciate the help from Congresswoman Salinas.

2416
03:28:47,380 --> 03:28:54,100
The NTLI North Transmission Line Intertie, Senator Markley and Senator Wyden were able to

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03:28:54,100 --> 03:28:58,860
secure a $2 million earmark or CDS project in the Senate bill.

2418
03:28:59,320 --> 03:29:07,640
For that project that's one of the more important sustainability and seismic resiliency projects

2419
03:29:07,640 --> 03:29:08,440
for the city.

2420
03:29:08,440 --> 03:29:15,720
In addition to that, Congresswoman Bonamichi and Salinas teamed up on securing a word

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03:29:15,720 --> 03:29:21,260
authorization for the NTLI project for $10 million.

2422
03:29:22,320 --> 03:29:28,480
That is something that they provided this authorization for.

2423
03:29:28,600 --> 03:29:34,000
It's a multi-step process, but ultimately to $10 million in investments for that water

2424
03:29:34,000 --> 03:29:35,020
infrastructure project.

2425
03:29:35,020 --> 03:29:50,220
So, super excited to have both of their support for that, ultimately $15.5 million coming from the federal government to the city of Beaverton through the earmark and word of process.

2426
03:29:51,020 --> 03:29:59,960
The reason why it's in yellow, these bills have not been finalized yet, the hope is that they'll be finalized.

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03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,400
All in December, next month, December 20th. If not, then early in 2025. So we're actively working to maintain those funds in the final appropriations bills. And I'll talk about that a little bit later. Just in terms of context of some of the other successes. You all have secured over $8 million for the loop projects through grants and CDS.

2428
03:30:29,400 --> 03:30:34,980
mark projects. You just broke ground on the Beaverton shelter that you got $3 million

2429
03:30:34,980 --> 03:30:42,380
for it. It was discussed earlier. The WIFIA program provided over $80 million for the

2430
03:30:42,380 --> 03:30:49,360
city, which means $31 million in actual finance and savings to the city. So a lot of good

2431
03:30:49,360 --> 03:30:53,640
successes that we've had working together over the last couple of years.

2432
03:30:57,180 --> 03:30:58,580
So the main purpose

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03:30:58,580 --> 03:31:08,660
of today is to talk a little bit about your federal agenda for 2025. Today we're, you know,

2434
03:31:08,740 --> 03:31:14,680
you're aware of these projects. They've been on your list before. And over the next month,

2435
03:31:14,680 --> 03:31:21,240
before the December 10th council meeting, when you're going to be finalizing your federal agenda,

2436
03:31:22,980 --> 03:31:28,420
feel free to ask questions about these projects. This is a draft agenda. We can add

2437
03:31:30,040 --> 03:31:39,840
but this is the project less that we've been working on with your staff to put forward to your congressional delegation next year.

2438
03:31:40,740 --> 03:31:54,240
The loop has been a high priority for the city for the last few years, and we're going to be bringing it back with a significant raise grant request to the Department of Transportation for $25 million.

2439
03:31:54,240 --> 03:31:59,660
dollars. Like I said, we've already secured over close to $8 million in federal funds already,

2440
03:32:00,040 --> 03:32:05,080
but we want to get this project complete. So we're looking for additional construction funds

2441
03:32:05,080 --> 03:32:10,860
through the RAGE program and then additional $4 million through the Airmark Earth Congressional

2442
03:32:10,860 --> 03:32:16,180
Direct Expending process as well. So continue to work with your congressional delegation on that.

2443
03:32:17,040 --> 03:32:22,260
The Laurelwood Avenue Neighborhood Access Project is basically a safe routes to school project.

2444
03:32:22,260 --> 03:32:29,520
this is the last $1.8 million you all need to complete that project. It's a safety. It's a

2445
03:32:29,520 --> 03:32:35,680
neighborhood. It's a transit project that we think will be popular with your congressional

2446
03:32:35,680 --> 03:32:42,280
delegation. The North Transmission Line Intertie, like I mentioned, we received a $10 million

2447
03:32:42,280 --> 03:32:48,140
authorization earmark. We're looking to land some additional money through that process and build

2448
03:32:48,140 --> 03:32:53,320
on the $2 million earmark that Senators Mark Lee and Widen already secure for this project.

2449
03:32:53,320 --> 03:32:58,760
It's feasible. And we'll be working with them to see if they can provide more resources

2450
03:32:59,220 --> 03:33:06,080
for that infrastructure project. The nonprofit business incubator, we actually received $500,000,

2451
03:33:06,340 --> 03:33:13,320
a couple of rounds ago from the Congressional delegation. And as that program was initiated in 2023,

2452
03:33:13,320 --> 03:33:29,300
We're looking to build that out and get some additional funds for tenant improvements and equipment to make sure that nonprofits non-profit incubator has the resources it needs to make sure that your local nonprofits are successful aquifer storage.

2453
03:33:31,320 --> 03:33:37,460
That's a grant request that we're looking, it's a sustainability project, it's a resiliency

2454
03:33:37,460 --> 03:33:43,020
project that provides additional water resources in the Cooper Mountain region throughout the

2455
03:33:43,020 --> 03:33:49,900
whole city as the city looks to grow, expand in a sustainable way, so we'll be submitting

2456
03:33:49,900 --> 03:33:55,280
that grant request again that we've tried before, the brick program through FEMA is a difficult

2457
03:33:55,280 --> 03:34:01,280
one to go after and we've been unsuccessful in the past but we're going to go again this next round

2458
03:34:01,280 --> 03:34:09,000
for that. And then a brown field assessment grant basically looks to redevelop properties within

2459
03:34:09,000 --> 03:34:15,500
the city for economic development use and we the city just submitted a $500,000 brown field assessment

2460
03:34:15,500 --> 03:34:24,800
grant last week. So we'll be advocating for that as well. On the policy side of things I would just

2461
03:34:24,800 --> 03:34:30,900
note before I get into anything specific. As is mentioned with a new administration, the

2462
03:34:30,900 --> 03:34:35,740
Trump administration, we may be planning a bit more defense that we had in the past under

2463
03:34:35,740 --> 03:34:42,460
the Biden administration with some of these domestic funding programs. But this is a work

2464
03:34:42,460 --> 03:34:49,720
in progress. Not everything is going to be included on here. As we see things pop up, we'll

2465
03:34:49,720 --> 03:34:57,120
We'll be working with the conference of mayors, we'll be working with the national league of cities on issues that are important to the city of Beaverton.

2466
03:34:57,640 --> 03:35:09,440
And we'll be able to add those items to your agenda if that's something of interest to the city, but these are some of the items that come front of mind with the new administration coming in.

2467
03:35:09,440 --> 03:35:29,200
Obviously affordable housing and the homelessness assistance programs at the federal level are very important to the city of Beaverton and cities throughout the state of Oregon protecting the home program, the CDBG program, homeless assistance, housing vouchers, low income housing tax credit are all important to the city of Beaverton.

2468
03:35:29,200 --> 03:35:34,280
We'll be looking to protect those in fiscal year 2026,

2469
03:35:36,880 --> 03:35:38,280
excuse me.

2470
03:35:38,740 --> 03:35:42,000
Sustainability programs, the Biden Administration and

2471
03:35:42,000 --> 03:35:46,880
PASS the Inflation Reduction Act, and the bipartisan infrastructure package.

2472
03:35:47,680 --> 03:35:54,480
And both of those bills are going to be under a threat under the Trump administration.

2473
03:35:54,480 --> 03:36:02,800
So we want to, the city wants to, has a climate action plan that you're working towards,

2474
03:36:02,800 --> 03:36:08,980
that would be helped and assisted by those federal programs included within the Inflation

2475
03:36:08,980 --> 03:36:11,180
Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill.

2476
03:36:11,600 --> 03:36:18,920
And we want to try to protect those programs as Congress looks to roll those back and the

2477
03:36:18,920 --> 03:36:20,560
Trump administration looks to roll those back.

2478
03:36:20,560 --> 03:36:25,280
So, those are items that we're going to be discussing with your congressional delegation

2479
03:36:25,280 --> 03:36:29,600
and other committees and agency members as well.

2480
03:36:30,940 --> 03:36:36,560
The regulatory concerns, this is something I believe is next on your agenda, the FEMA.

2481
03:36:38,680 --> 03:36:44,420
There's a floodplain biological opinion that's pending and being enacted by FEMA.

2482
03:36:44,420 --> 03:36:52,140
As we speak, it's been rushed to be honest, FEMA is going outside of their mission in

2483
03:36:52,140 --> 03:37:01,200
terms of providing mitigation guidance on endangered species, which is not within their mission.

2484
03:37:01,980 --> 03:37:09,480
And cities throughout Oregon are being negatively impacted in terms of redeveloping and developing

2485
03:37:09,480 --> 03:37:15,260
within your flood plain is going to have significant impact on your flood insurance program,

2486
03:37:15,620 --> 03:37:22,280
and if these measures move forward, which they are administratively, it could have significant

2487
03:37:22,280 --> 03:37:27,560
impacts in terms of your growth, in terms of housing, economic development, transit facilities,

2488
03:37:28,240 --> 03:37:32,880
within your downtown core, that are all within your flood plain. And like I said, there's going to be

2489
03:37:32,880 --> 03:37:39,080
a broader discussion on this after my presentation here, but we're going to continue to raise these

2490
03:37:39,080 --> 03:37:44,560
concerns with your congressional delegation. See if there's a legislative or administrative

2491
03:37:45,640 --> 03:37:51,180
delay. Obviously, we all are supportive of the Endangered Species Act and protecting

2492
03:37:51,180 --> 03:37:58,600
Endangered Species. But at the end of the day, all of these initiatives by FEMA are being

2493
03:37:58,600 --> 03:38:06,380
put forward before NEPA, the National Environmental Protection Agency, decisions have been made.

2494
03:38:06,380 --> 03:38:11,720
And so, yes, we want to protect endangered species, but typically that happens after the

2495
03:38:11,720 --> 03:38:15,280
NEPA ruling has come out, and NEPA has not actually happened yet.

2496
03:38:15,700 --> 03:38:20,840
So we want to emphasize that, this is going to be a huge burden on cities like Beaverton

2497
03:38:20,840 --> 03:38:24,820
throughout the state of Oregon, and want to make sure that the Congressional delegation

2498
03:38:24,820 --> 03:38:30,880
is aware of that, and at the least delay some of the implementation moving forward.

2499
03:38:32,200 --> 03:38:41,680
Two more items, tax reform, obviously in 2017, the Trump administration passed a huge tax cut tax reform bill.

2500
03:38:42,380 --> 03:38:48,400
Within that, they capped state and local tax deduction at $10,000 per household.

2501
03:38:49,080 --> 03:38:56,700
That has a negative impact on housing, which is an important issue for the city of Beaverton and other cities in the Pacific Northwest,

2502
03:38:56,700 --> 03:39:00,580
that it makes housing less affordable to purchase.

2503
03:39:01,220 --> 03:39:04,580
So looking to restore that state and local tax deduction,

2504
03:39:04,760 --> 03:39:08,160
especially for some high income tax states like Oregon.

2505
03:39:09,100 --> 03:39:12,780
In addition to that, advanced refunding was eliminated

2506
03:39:12,780 --> 03:39:15,160
in the 2017 tax bill.

2507
03:39:15,740 --> 03:39:18,840
Basically what that means is if a city went out for bonding

2508
03:39:19,140 --> 03:39:23,220
and you got a 5% interest rate and interest rates went down

2509
03:39:23,220 --> 03:39:30,120
to 2%. You could not refinance your bond to that lower rate. It's just a way for them to save

2510
03:39:30,120 --> 03:39:36,440
money in that tax cut bill. It's scored beneficially for them so they could cut taxes elsewhere.

2511
03:39:36,840 --> 03:39:42,100
We want to restore that. We think that's unfair for cities. You should be able to refinance your bonds

2512
03:39:42,100 --> 03:39:49,580
at a lower level. There was no practical reason for that other than to find other offsets to cut

2513
03:39:49,580 --> 03:39:55,340
taxes elsewhere in that tax reform bill. So that's something that National League of Cities,

2514
03:39:55,360 --> 03:39:59,880
the Confederates, along with the state and local tax reduction, are going to be advocating for.

2515
03:40:00,080 --> 03:40:03,700
So we've included that in your policy items and working with your staff.

2516
03:40:04,520 --> 03:40:14,120
Lastly, supportive housing for disabled veterans. Disabled veterans get benefits that they've earned

2517
03:40:14,120 --> 03:40:20,020
being disabled and serving their country and sometimes those benefits count against

2518
03:40:20,020 --> 03:40:27,860
them in their housing benefit plans, like the housing vouchers, that income that they

2519
03:40:27,860 --> 03:40:34,060
receive from being a disabled veteran is counted against the income levels that the housing

2520
03:40:34,060 --> 03:40:40,700
programs consider when they're providing those vouchers or other housing benefits to veterans.

2521
03:40:40,700 --> 03:40:42,540
And we think that's unfair.

2522
03:40:42,720 --> 03:40:44,660
The Compton Mayors thinks that's unfair.

2523
03:40:45,040 --> 03:40:46,800
The mayor has led on this issue.

2524
03:40:46,960 --> 03:40:49,600
It's actually the Biden administration has passed

2525
03:40:49,600 --> 03:40:52,120
some regulatory reform to address this.

2526
03:40:52,460 --> 03:40:55,580
But we really want to see this put into law to make it permanent

2527
03:40:55,580 --> 03:41:00,180
so that veterans get the benefits that they deserve in our house

2528
03:41:01,600 --> 03:41:04,900
and address some of those issues that they're seeing.

2529
03:41:07,500 --> 03:41:09,040
Real quick, I got a couple slides here.

2530
03:41:09,060 --> 03:41:09,640
I know it's late.

2531
03:41:09,640 --> 03:41:16,440
Just everybody knows, the outcome of the presidential election, President Trump picked

2532
03:41:16,440 --> 03:41:25,560
up all of the swing states in the 20-44 election, and there was a bit of a red wave that

2533
03:41:25,560 --> 03:41:31,600
happened nationwide that also led to the Republicans taking over the Senate.

2534
03:41:31,960 --> 03:41:39,560
They're going to have a 53 to 47 majority in the Senate, and they were able to keep

2535
03:41:39,560 --> 03:41:45,420
the House of Representatives. They're likely to have a 20 of you need 218 for

2536
03:41:45,420 --> 03:41:50,660
majority. They're likely to have 222 around that majority in the House. So it's

2537
03:41:50,660 --> 03:41:57,840
going to be one party rule back here in Washington DC in 2025 and 2026. And so

2538
03:41:57,840 --> 03:42:01,040
that's the world we're operating under when we're looking at your federal

2539
03:42:01,040 --> 03:42:07,580
agenda and trying to be successful. And so looking forward to 2025, what we

2540
03:42:07,580 --> 03:42:11,440
What the Congress needs to finish is their FY25 budget.

2541
03:42:11,580 --> 03:42:13,760
That's where all of those earmarks that we talked about earlier.

2542
03:42:14,300 --> 03:42:16,520
All of those are included in the FY25 budget.

2543
03:42:17,100 --> 03:42:21,400
Right now, Congress is trying to pass all of those bills by December 20th.

2544
03:42:21,840 --> 03:42:26,600
It's possible, I was actually just talking to Senator Murkley's chief staff tonight as possible.

2545
03:42:26,700 --> 03:42:32,000
They might extend that to January early 2025 to pass those bills.

2546
03:42:32,220 --> 03:42:35,680
But we're hopeful that those earmarks will remain in any final budget bill.

2547
03:42:37,140 --> 03:42:39,600
and that year projects will be fully funded

2548
03:42:40,340 --> 03:42:42,460
before the next Congress comes in.

2549
03:42:43,560 --> 03:42:47,120
The debt limit, we are seeing this negotiation

2550
03:42:47,120 --> 03:42:48,560
every couple of years now.

2551
03:42:49,080 --> 03:42:51,980
The nation has basically a credit card limit

2552
03:42:51,980 --> 03:42:53,520
on how much debt we have today.

2553
03:42:53,520 --> 03:42:56,480
We have a $35 trillion debt,

2554
03:42:56,780 --> 03:42:58,420
which is a lot of money.

2555
03:42:58,960 --> 03:43:01,880
But we need to extend that to $37 trillion

2556
03:43:01,880 --> 03:43:03,920
or what have you over the next couple of years

2557
03:43:03,920 --> 03:43:09,060
because we continue to have $1 trillion plus budget deficits on a yearly basis.

2558
03:43:09,720 --> 03:43:14,420
So Congress needs to address that and with one party rule, it's more likely we'll have less

2559
03:43:14,920 --> 03:43:20,000
of a fight over that and the trouble administration will work with the Republican Congress to increase

2560
03:43:20,000 --> 03:43:25,840
the debt limit early in 2025. We continue to have tight margins in the House and the Senate,

2561
03:43:26,320 --> 03:43:33,520
so it's going to be difficult to pass any major legislation. The exception to that is tax reform

2562
03:43:33,520 --> 03:43:39,540
form and tax cuts, what there's a special budget procedure where you don't need 60 votes

2563
03:43:39,540 --> 03:43:42,120
to pass tax cuts in the Senate.

2564
03:43:42,920 --> 03:43:50,900
So we're going to be looking at a $123 trillion potentially tax cut bill in the Senate that

2565
03:43:52,100 --> 03:43:57,280
passes through the House and the Senate, that's going to be looking to pair back a lot of

2566
03:43:57,280 --> 03:44:03,140
those investments in sustainability and energy projects that the Biden administration passed

2567
03:44:03,140 --> 03:44:09,520
through the same budget reconciliation process, but also passing tax cuts for corporations,

2568
03:44:09,780 --> 03:44:15,940
individuals, and other things that President Trump promised in his campaign. And ultimately,

2569
03:44:16,120 --> 03:44:22,940
we're in Trump 2.0 with 47 President of the United States. We already seen a lot of his controversial

2570
03:44:22,940 --> 03:44:31,440
cabinet nominations. It's going to be a while right back here. I know during the first term, I was

2571
03:44:31,440 --> 03:44:40,040
time. And then in the early in the morning, it's going to be challenging. I think we are all

2572
03:44:41,480 --> 03:44:50,940
curious to see how the Trump administration is going to govern. And I think that we're just

2573
03:44:50,940 --> 03:44:55,340
going to like your federal agenda. It's got to be flexible. I think we just need to see how they

2574
03:44:55,340 --> 03:44:59,940
operate and manoeuvre accordingly with

2575
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:28,660
Your federal agenda and your advocacy as they move forward. So it will be certainly an interesting 2025. And we look forward to continue to working with you all and having a successful federal agenda. But obviously working to protect some of your core fundamental issues at the same time. So with that, I'll just say thank you. I appreciate the time. I'm sorry if I went a little long. And it was a late night.

2576
03:45:28,660 --> 03:45:40,720
But you all, I really appreciate all of the time effort of your staff, the mayor for coming out here to Washington DC advocating for your projects and programs.

2577
03:45:41,560 --> 03:45:46,540
It's really been fun and enjoy all the success working together.

2578
03:45:49,060 --> 03:45:50,820
Thank you, Joel, for the overview.

2579
03:45:50,820 --> 03:45:55,760
I want to start by just thanking you for the work that you do on behalf of the city.

2580
03:45:55,960 --> 03:46:00,260
I know I constantly get asked by mayors, not just in Oregon, but everywhere else.

2581
03:46:00,380 --> 03:46:04,220
How Beaverton is able to punch above our weight class the way that we do.

2582
03:46:04,460 --> 03:46:09,820
And the amount of federal funding we've been able to secure has been a lot of your recommendation

2583
03:46:09,820 --> 03:46:14,780
of analyzing the federal government where delegation is putting projects together, working with

2584
03:46:14,780 --> 03:46:15,280
their staff.

2585
03:46:16,340 --> 03:46:20,320
And we started working together with you as a city during the first Trump administration

2586
03:46:20,320 --> 03:46:25,560
when there wasn't a lot of abundance and so being able to work together during the Biden administration was great

2587
03:46:26,620 --> 03:46:31,240
But I look forward to your kind of recommendations on how we operate since this isn't new

2588
03:46:31,240 --> 03:46:32,680
This is somewhere we've already been

2589
03:46:33,240 --> 03:46:40,620
But it is going to be weird for organ to be operating our state-level agenda with the super majority of Democrats and

2590
03:46:40,620 --> 03:46:45,120
Comparing that with our federal agenda with the super majority of Republicans. So I

2591
03:46:45,800 --> 03:46:50,280
I like the outline, the way that you've given us, it puts us able to play defense.

2592
03:46:50,520 --> 03:46:54,120
And I think some of the areas that we're going after for funding might just survive.

2593
03:46:55,020 --> 03:46:56,940
So thank you for all the work that you've done today.

2594
03:46:56,960 --> 03:46:57,600
I think it's great.

2595
03:46:57,760 --> 03:46:58,580
And I think you're right.

2596
03:46:58,720 --> 03:46:59,640
We're going to have to be nimble.

2597
03:47:00,080 --> 03:47:02,540
We're going to have to adjust to how things are starting to roll.

2598
03:47:02,800 --> 03:47:06,280
We're going to have to rely on partners like the US Conference of Mayor that has a Republican

2599
03:47:06,280 --> 03:47:09,340
leader right now, the National League of Cities that have a Republican leader.

2600
03:47:09,760 --> 03:47:13,760
We're going to have to work with these other organizations to try to keep what makes cities

2601
03:47:13,760 --> 03:47:14,280
run.

2602
03:47:14,280 --> 03:47:19,260
And I think we're going to spend a lot of time telling people about cities over the next four years.

2603
03:47:19,980 --> 03:47:20,640
Councillor Teeter.

2604
03:47:22,460 --> 03:47:23,180
Thanks, Dr. Boyle.

2605
03:47:23,460 --> 03:47:23,900
Two comments.

2606
03:47:24,320 --> 03:47:32,100
Can you go back to the slide with the yellow numbers for projects that we're working on this school year?

2607
03:47:33,200 --> 03:47:33,340
Yeah.

2608
03:47:35,600 --> 03:47:37,440
Projects that are not quite finalized yet.

2609
03:47:39,060 --> 03:47:39,800
Yeah, that one.

2610
03:47:40,020 --> 03:47:40,820
Oh, it's the best.

2611
03:47:41,380 --> 03:47:41,900
Yep, that one.

2612
03:47:41,900 --> 03:47:45,420
and the 2024 projects that are in yellow.

2613
03:47:46,420 --> 03:47:48,700
So those are not officially finalized yet.

2614
03:47:48,920 --> 03:47:51,600
Should we be concerned about timing,

2615
03:47:51,880 --> 03:47:55,120
and that potentially jump administration could cut those

2616
03:47:55,120 --> 03:47:58,680
before we fully implement those or receive those funds?

2617
03:47:59,820 --> 03:48:03,600
Yeah, so it's not funny, but it's interesting.

2618
03:48:03,740 --> 03:48:04,640
I was talking, like I mentioned,

2619
03:48:04,860 --> 03:48:07,220
I saw Senator Merkelee's chief of staff tonight.

2620
03:48:07,500 --> 03:48:10,300
And basically her advice to anybody

2621
03:48:10,300 --> 03:48:15,040
somebody that received a grant in the last couple of years was to get those grants

2622
03:48:15,040 --> 03:48:21,220
agreements signed and in place because they are worried that the Trump administration

2623
03:48:21,220 --> 03:48:22,760
will pull those back.

2624
03:48:23,700 --> 03:48:28,200
The caveat for the list that you're looking at here is that it's different.

2625
03:48:28,680 --> 03:48:34,860
These are earmarks that members of Congress have secured themselves, so it's unlikely, so

2626
03:48:34,860 --> 03:48:39,180
it's a great question, but it's unlikely that the Trump administration would look to pull

2627
03:48:39,180 --> 03:48:46,060
those back because he's going to be upsetting. He wouldn't just pull back congressional projects

2628
03:48:46,600 --> 03:48:53,260
that seems about the pale, but we should be cautious of that. It's more of those grants that

2629
03:48:53,260 --> 03:48:58,880
you received last year, a year before that haven't, don't have those signed grants agreements

2630
03:48:59,320 --> 03:49:04,380
that I am telling all of my clients to be worried about is get those grants agreements signed.

2631
03:49:04,380 --> 03:49:08,980
and the Trump administration will be looking to potentially roll those back.

2632
03:49:09,640 --> 03:49:11,660
Okay, and I think Jocelyn wants to chime in there.

2633
03:49:12,020 --> 03:49:15,140
Yeah, if I may, Joel and I had this conversation earlier today,

2634
03:49:15,220 --> 03:49:20,300
and we do have a couple outstanding agreements, but staff has been working very hard

2635
03:49:20,300 --> 03:49:24,820
to make sure that we can get those in place by early January,

2636
03:49:24,820 --> 03:49:26,600
and we are in track to do that.

2637
03:49:27,300 --> 03:49:27,680
Okay, great.

2638
03:49:28,260 --> 03:49:31,680
Yeah, from my perspective, whatever we can do advances forward,

2639
03:49:31,680 --> 03:49:40,060
It's quickly as possible. I would be happy to support. And then Joel, my last question, if you can go to the next slide for our proposed 2025 projects.

2640
03:49:43,290 --> 03:49:46,230
Sorry. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, this one.

2641
03:49:48,570 --> 03:49:57,190
Some of these are your marks. So I would assume similar comment is what you just made. These have a better chance of actually being received.

2642
03:49:57,190 --> 03:50:01,330
But then the raise grant is different and the aquifer storage in the brown fields.

2643
03:50:02,410 --> 03:50:05,210
Are these likely to continue to or is there any concern there?

2644
03:50:05,590 --> 03:50:08,850
I want to make sure we've got some good probability or at least set our expectations

2645
03:50:08,850 --> 03:50:09,290
appropriately.

2646
03:50:10,310 --> 03:50:10,530
Yeah.

2647
03:50:10,670 --> 03:50:10,770
No.

2648
03:50:10,850 --> 03:50:11,470
Great question.

2649
03:50:12,330 --> 03:50:13,930
I'll start with the brown fields.

2650
03:50:14,170 --> 03:50:22,130
Brown fields has generally been a pretty bipartisan funding program in Democrat and Republican

2651
03:50:22,130 --> 03:50:23,030
administrations.

2652
03:50:23,030 --> 03:50:28,670
It's looking at old sites that are contaminated, cleaning them up, and putting them back into reuse.

2653
03:50:29,470 --> 03:50:32,690
So that's not something I'm too worried about.

2654
03:50:33,090 --> 03:50:37,350
That program is funded adequately. We'll keep an eye on that.

2655
03:50:37,930 --> 03:50:41,430
The RAIS program, I'm not worried about the funding levels.

2656
03:50:41,610 --> 03:50:45,850
At least for the next couple of years, it's funded through 2026.

2657
03:50:46,650 --> 03:50:52,090
But I do feel like the priorities of the Trump administration are going to change the RAIS program.

2658
03:50:52,090 --> 03:50:58,530
The raise program under Biden administration has supported bike-ped projects, transit projects,

2659
03:50:58,790 --> 03:51:05,390
more sustainable livability projects. And the Trump administration generally, they called it the

2660
03:51:05,390 --> 03:51:11,510
build program under the Trump administration. They're likely to go back to more safety,

2661
03:51:11,990 --> 03:51:21,090
freight, highway-centric projects. I think the loop has some of those components. You fit perfectly

2662
03:51:21,090 --> 03:51:26,470
under the Biden-Rays program today, it's going to be a little bit more of a challenge

2663
03:51:26,470 --> 03:51:31,250
to get that funded under a Trump administration's build type program.

2664
03:51:31,810 --> 03:51:37,190
But you're safe, you do have safety, you have a state of good repair, there's elements

2665
03:51:37,190 --> 03:51:43,870
of the loop project that are that could fit okay under the build program under a Trump administration,

2666
03:51:44,490 --> 03:51:45,810
but yeah, it's going to be more challenging.

2667
03:51:45,810 --> 03:51:54,770
So, this last, the Biden administration has the raised program, it's closes on January 30th.

2668
03:51:55,390 --> 03:52:03,230
It has all the parameters of the Biden administration, so all of the sustainability and safety issues are going to be included.

2669
03:52:03,770 --> 03:52:07,950
So, the city is going to be going after it under the Biden parameters.

2670
03:52:07,950 --> 03:52:20,630
The question is, does Trump pull that entire program back on January 21st and rewrite it and open it up again with his own program standards?

2671
03:52:21,150 --> 03:52:27,510
That's a possibility. I think you could still be competitive. It's just you got to change the narrative a little bit around the program.

2672
03:52:27,770 --> 03:52:30,450
So yes, it's going to be a little bit more of a challenge.

2673
03:52:33,690 --> 03:52:39,590
which is why I've been trying to push us that this would be our second bite at the

2674
03:52:39,590 --> 03:52:44,890
apple and we missed that opportunity for a plethora of reasons and so we kind of

2675
03:52:44,890 --> 03:52:48,090
got one shot right now where we would have likely had to.

2676
03:52:48,690 --> 03:52:49,430
Councillor Ossohn?

2677
03:52:50,810 --> 03:52:54,430
Yeah, this, I don't know, I don't know if this is a joll joss thing question.

2678
03:52:55,050 --> 03:52:59,290
Did the equity, like what was the equity office way in on this just from the multicultural

2679
03:52:59,290 --> 03:53:02,230
cultural center perspective so that I can understand where that is.

2680
03:53:04,030 --> 03:53:10,750
Yeah, I'm happy to take that because the equity office did review this proposal and gave feedback on it.

2681
03:53:11,150 --> 03:53:17,370
From a multicultural center, we're still in the process of doing the assessment that the council asked for.

2682
03:53:18,010 --> 03:53:22,730
And that is underway and should be coming before you in the coming year.

2683
03:53:23,630 --> 03:53:29,570
Joel and I did discuss it around a federal agenda, however, where we're typically at

2684
03:53:29,570 --> 03:53:35,690
with grant and CDS requests, they're going to want to see that assessment before we move

2685
03:53:35,690 --> 03:53:37,090
forward with something like that.

2686
03:53:37,810 --> 03:53:43,370
So, our plan around that was to bring that in front of Council and let that inform ongoing

2687
03:53:43,370 --> 03:53:45,930
conversations around what that could look like.

2688
03:53:46,630 --> 03:53:51,550
Okay. Jenny, do we know when we're going to have more information on that if you have

2689
03:53:51,550 --> 03:53:59,830
information. My guess would be sometime in spring. Okay. So this is great. The Federal Policy

2690
03:53:59,830 --> 03:54:02,290
Agenda is fine with me.

2691
03:54:04,750 --> 03:54:08,490
Anyone that I've talked to in the last two weeks is terrified of what's

2692
03:54:08,490 --> 03:54:19,790
coming. And these folks are not going to trust government these communities. And so whatever we look

2693
03:54:19,790 --> 03:54:25,790
to build in the future, whether it's through our partners, it really does matter.

2694
03:54:26,490 --> 03:54:31,550
I'm not saying that we need to do anything here, but I just, I've shared my thoughts in

2695
03:54:31,550 --> 03:54:36,350
the past about the nonprofit business incubator, and it really comes down to this idea that

2696
03:54:36,350 --> 03:54:40,950
there are organizations that do really good work to build organizational structure, but

2697
03:54:40,950 --> 03:54:43,870
they are typically disconnected from the most marginalized communities.

2698
03:54:44,350 --> 03:54:47,510
And so everyone who's calling me, when I'm like, what about a Pano, what about this?

2699
03:54:47,510 --> 03:54:52,410
they're like, oh, I didn't, you know, so I just want to encourage us all to think about

2700
03:54:52,410 --> 03:54:54,230
what support is going to look like.

2701
03:54:55,230 --> 03:54:58,710
I've talked to folks and said I think we need to move in a direction of setting up safe

2702
03:54:58,710 --> 03:55:02,350
houses for people and that I can't know where those are for certain reasons.

2703
03:55:03,630 --> 03:55:06,690
So I'm not saying that I have any additions to this federal agenda.

2704
03:55:09,550 --> 03:55:13,470
I, you know, like I'd love for the equity office to maybe give us some ideas around the nonprofit

2705
03:55:13,470 --> 03:55:16,510
business incubator because I don't think we need to incubate nonprofits.

2706
03:55:16,510 --> 03:55:20,870
profits, I think we need to set up orgs that are already doing work to success here in

2707
03:55:20,870 --> 03:55:27,770
Beaverton. I just like my phone calls for the last two weeks are like, you know, access

2708
03:55:27,770 --> 03:55:32,890
to food, not wanting to walk into the doors of a city building for safety purposes, and

2709
03:55:33,550 --> 03:55:37,970
I just hope that we think about that. Whatever that looks like over the next couple of years,

2710
03:55:37,970 --> 03:55:41,090
I don't think the thing is going to happen the next year. I certainly wouldn't expect

2711
03:55:41,090 --> 03:55:46,130
to get the funding. Let me be clear, I know we're in defense, so I'm not asking for much,

2712
03:55:46,130 --> 03:56:12,850
but what are we doing to build that because I feel in my community I have worked so hard to build trust around systems and government and now I'm just telling those people it's okay if you don't trust them because I don't know that you should so a little bit of a vulnerable thought and maybe not completely related to this but I think it's important that we're thinking about it as we imagine what we are doing for our community for the next couple of years. Thanks.

2713
03:56:12,850 --> 03:56:13,470
Okay.

2714
03:56:20,090 --> 03:56:23,430
Thank you, Jocelyn, for putting this together.

2715
03:56:23,550 --> 03:56:27,050
Thank you, Joel, for being with us at, you know, one in the morning.

2716
03:56:27,330 --> 03:56:28,350
We appreciate you.

2717
03:56:29,290 --> 03:56:32,170
And we look forward to the passage of our agenda in December.

2718
03:56:32,510 --> 03:56:32,870
Thank you both.

2719
03:56:34,190 --> 03:56:34,890
Thank you.

2720
03:56:36,810 --> 03:56:40,370
All right, we have our last order of business, agenda bill 24150,

2721
03:56:40,950 --> 03:56:45,590
new FEMA requirements for review of development and special flood hazard areas.

2722
03:57:07,420 --> 03:57:08,280
Good evening.

2723
03:57:09,420 --> 03:57:15,040
Yeah, it will be morning soon for us, definitely pass my bedtime council. I am Andy Varner, the community development director.

2724
03:57:15,780 --> 03:57:19,120
Honest Latansky, planning division manager in the community development department.

2725
03:57:20,560 --> 03:57:26,520
Very, very aware that you heard something earlier that you liked and asked for, that Cara supplied with street mural program.

2726
03:57:26,800 --> 03:57:35,480
What you're about to hear is something you definitely didn't ask for, but we're going to soldier through this and try to do it very quickly because Joel did a good job kind of laying what the issue is before us.

2727
03:57:35,480 --> 03:57:38,840
We'll try to breeze through this in 10 minutes or so.

2728
03:57:39,540 --> 03:57:41,460
Yes, thank you, Andy.

2729
03:57:42,200 --> 03:57:45,580
So the theme from the previous presentation was playing defense.

2730
03:57:45,800 --> 03:57:48,040
This is something that definitely falls into that category.

2731
03:57:49,520 --> 03:57:56,540
This presentation will include some history and context on these new FEMA rules, a high-level

2732
03:57:56,540 --> 03:58:02,360
explanation of the new requirements, a discussion of implications for Beaverton, and a staff recommendation

2733
03:58:02,360 --> 03:58:03,380
for moving forward.

2734
03:58:03,380 --> 03:58:13,780
I'm not going to read my slides, I'm going to air on the side of going quickly and I told Andy to kick me under the table if I go too slow, but let's get to it.

2735
03:58:14,640 --> 03:58:30,140
So to sum up over the past several years, FEMA has been pulled into habitat protection business through lawsuits that relate to the Endangered Species Act.

2736
03:58:30,140 --> 03:58:36,540
This has been underway since, like, 2009 and it is a slow-moving process.

2737
03:58:37,520 --> 03:58:44,520
It's been contentious and partly as a result of how long it's taking, FEMA has now

2738
03:58:44,520 --> 03:58:51,700
moved to require rules that will be in place temporarily while the full program that FEMA

2739
03:58:51,700 --> 03:58:55,500
has been working on undergoes environmental review through NEPA.

2740
03:58:55,500 --> 03:59:05,140
So, we have this review underway of this implementation of Endangercies Protection within the floodplain.

2741
03:59:05,720 --> 03:59:08,120
That's going to take probably another few years.

2742
03:59:08,560 --> 03:59:10,600
It's kind of unpredictable, it tends to be long.

2743
03:59:11,200 --> 03:59:18,840
But between December 1st and when that process is over, there are some temporary rules that are being put in place.

2744
03:59:18,840 --> 03:59:24,840
jurisdiction in Oregon. We're only notified about these. On July 15th, it was a surprise.

2745
03:59:25,700 --> 03:59:31,480
We've all been kind of, you know, thrown in front. What's going on? What does this mean?

2746
03:59:31,840 --> 03:59:34,960
There have been lots of meetings. We've been working with the League of Cities with

2747
03:59:34,960 --> 03:59:38,800
says, you know, counties, etc. In order to kind of get our heads around it,

2748
03:59:39,040 --> 03:59:43,200
this is a work in progress. So there may be questions that come up for you that I can't answer.

2749
03:59:43,700 --> 03:59:47,620
This is a snapshot in time because the city has to make some decisions about how to move forward

2750
03:59:47,620 --> 03:59:50,220
in order to be in compliance.

2751
03:59:51,320 --> 03:59:58,820
So the rules themselves, it's a mouthful, pre-implementation compliance measures,

2752
03:59:58,820 --> 03:59:59,980
that really...

2753
04:00:01,880 --> 04:00:29,820
I'm going to say that because it's shorter. Essentially what it boils down to is that these are pretty blunt measures that are intended to preserve and protect endangered fish species habitat within the floodplain. It's casually known as the 100 floodplain formally speaking. It's the special flood hazard area. And part of the bluntness of these rules will be in place for the duration of the kind of longer term.

2754
04:00:29,820 --> 04:00:35,220
an environmental review is that they treat all areas in the special flood hazard area the

2755
04:00:35,220 --> 04:00:35,480
same.

2756
04:00:35,600 --> 04:00:42,220
They assume that all of these areas represent valuable habitat for endangered fish species.

2757
04:00:42,840 --> 04:00:45,640
When you look at a parking lot in downtown Beaverton, that's in the flood plain.

2758
04:00:45,820 --> 04:00:52,020
You might not immediately think, oh, precious fish habitat, however, that is the way that

2759
04:00:52,020 --> 04:00:52,940
they're treated in these tools.

2760
04:00:54,600 --> 04:00:58,900
The options for Beaverton to respond are threefold.

2761
04:00:59,140 --> 04:01:01,120
These are options that FEMA has identified.

2762
04:01:01,820 --> 04:01:07,120
I will note that out of approximately 200 jurisdictions in Oregon that this affects,

2763
04:01:07,480 --> 04:01:13,700
I think there's just one that is actually going to be implementing something by December

2764
04:01:14,500 --> 04:01:16,480
1st, at least on a fully adopted basis.

2765
04:01:17,000 --> 04:01:21,520
This is partly because of the time it takes to make code changes in Oregon, but it's also

2766
04:01:21,520 --> 04:01:27,520
partly because the options that FEMA provided in published in August are problematic under

2767
04:01:27,520 --> 04:01:27,980
organ law.

2768
04:01:28,140 --> 04:01:32,180
They didn't, they don't really reflect the organ land use system.

2769
04:01:32,780 --> 04:01:37,580
And so we're, we're kind of in a little bit of a holding pattern waiting for more feedback

2770
04:01:37,580 --> 04:01:40,020
from the Department of Land Conservation and Development.

2771
04:01:40,800 --> 04:01:45,680
FEMA is actually in the process of updating some of these options, particularly the site

2772
04:01:45,680 --> 04:01:46,840
by site habitat assessment.

2773
04:01:46,840 --> 04:01:56,180
So there is kind of more to come, but the bottom line is that in spite of outreach by jurisdictions

2774
04:01:56,180 --> 04:02:02,140
and elected officials in Washington, including from Oregon's governor, these rules will

2775
04:02:02,140 --> 04:02:09,220
still go into effect as initially stated in that July 15th letter December 1st as the date

2776
04:02:09,220 --> 04:02:12,280
when we need to tell FEMA what we are going to do.

2777
04:02:12,280 --> 04:02:17,680
So the implications for beavers and I'm just going to kind of go through these relatively

2778
04:02:17,680 --> 04:02:18,320
quickly.

2779
04:02:18,900 --> 04:02:22,620
I do want to pause for a moment and explain a little bit about the National Flood Insurance

2780
04:02:22,620 --> 04:02:23,200
Program.

2781
04:02:23,620 --> 04:02:29,880
This is basically a program that FEMA runs in order to protect property from losses in

2782
04:02:29,880 --> 04:02:31,180
the case of a flooding event.

2783
04:02:31,720 --> 04:02:38,300
And it is actually required that the jurisdiction where property is located be a participant in

2784
04:02:38,300 --> 04:02:43,220
the National Flood Insurance Program in order for that property owner to buy insurance

2785
04:02:43,220 --> 04:02:46,120
that is essentially protected by FEMA.

2786
04:02:46,760 --> 04:02:50,020
That insurance is a requirement for getting a mortgage.

2787
04:02:50,760 --> 04:02:58,940
So Beaverton has a lot of strong reasons to make sure that we are continuing to be in

2788
04:02:58,940 --> 04:03:01,140
compliance with the National Flood Insurance Program.

2789
04:03:01,500 --> 04:03:06,480
I also think it's really important to understand that jurisdictions that do not participate in

2790
04:03:06,480 --> 04:03:10,140
the National Flood Insurance Program are not eligible for federal disaster assistance.

2791
04:03:10,380 --> 04:03:17,000
So in a time when we're thinking about wildfires, earthquakes, floods, being eligible for

2792
04:03:17,000 --> 04:03:20,260
that type of relief is really, again, really important risk management for the city.

2793
04:03:21,340 --> 04:03:27,420
So the current flood regulations in Beaverton actually do some things to help with habitat.

2794
04:03:27,540 --> 04:03:32,500
We also have local code requirements for things like planted landscape buffers.

2795
04:03:32,500 --> 04:03:36,020
We have clean water services rules for vegetated corridors.

2796
04:03:36,620 --> 04:03:37,660
We have stormwater rules.

2797
04:03:38,200 --> 04:03:40,640
The same rules are not in place in every jurisdiction in Oregon.

2798
04:03:40,920 --> 04:03:46,060
So Beaverton already goes part of the way towards doing what FEMA is asking folks to do.

2799
04:03:46,540 --> 04:03:50,360
And that's important to kind of keep in mind as we move on to the staff recommendation.

2800
04:03:50,660 --> 04:03:54,160
But first I want to say a few more comments about Beaverton implications.

2801
04:03:54,740 --> 04:04:00,680
In Beaverton, there are 945 properties that have at least some area that is in this designated

2802
04:04:00,680 --> 04:04:07,160
floodplain area, 218 of those are in Bureau. These rules are rigid. They don't really contemplate

2803
04:04:07,160 --> 04:04:12,700
redevelopment of sites that don't currently offer habitat. They're not flexible. And in addition

2804
04:04:12,700 --> 04:04:17,520
to downtown, we have a lot of impacts in industrial areas in Beaverton. So this is the context,

2805
04:04:17,520 --> 04:04:22,660
it's pretty serious. But at this point, there's very little flexibility in terms of what Beaver can

2806
04:04:22,660 --> 04:04:28,380
Beaverton can do in order to reflect those local conditions. This is a map showing in light blue

2807
04:04:28,380 --> 04:04:34,460
here, it may not be super visible. The floodplain within the city, the orange

2808
04:04:34,460 --> 04:04:38,500
outline there is BRSA. You kind of get a feeling for a larger area of the

2809
04:04:38,500 --> 04:04:42,860
context. So it's a lot of properties. It's a lot of pretty high profile

2810
04:04:42,860 --> 04:04:50,120
locations within the city. The staff recommendation has a couple of phases. Being

2811
04:04:50,120 --> 04:04:53,760
that we're in a situation where we still don't really have a full

2812
04:04:53,760 --> 04:04:58,040
understanding of what FEMA is exactly asking us to do. We're waiting for

2813
04:04:58,040 --> 04:05:03,520
revisions on a number of these documents. The requirement date is still December 1. However,

2814
04:05:03,820 --> 04:05:09,280
FEMA staff has indicated that they will not be looking for the literal full compliance

2815
04:05:09,280 --> 04:05:13,160
on that date, but they're looking for its jurisdictions to make a good faith effort and

2816
04:05:13,160 --> 04:05:17,640
to communicate with FEMA staff about what progress is being made to come into compliance.

2817
04:05:18,580 --> 04:05:24,740
So the staff recommendation is to begin assessing potential habitat impacts on a case-by-case basis

2818
04:05:24,740 --> 04:05:28,180
beginning on December 1st using existing adopted codes.

2819
04:05:28,800 --> 04:05:31,160
Those are the codes that we have the authority to apply.

2820
04:05:31,920 --> 04:05:36,120
In addition to that, though, what we can do is collect information about the development

2821
04:05:36,120 --> 04:05:42,120
that's proposed on these sites, and we can document the types of mitigation that our code

2822
04:05:42,120 --> 04:05:48,140
currently will require on those sites so that FEMA can be shown that we are not ignoring

2823
04:05:48,140 --> 04:05:51,280
them, and we are doing things that actually do get part of the way.

2824
04:05:51,340 --> 04:05:52,700
It's that kind of good faith effort.

2825
04:05:52,700 --> 04:06:02,260
Meanwhile, staff recommends that we initiate a project to identify how that model code can be adapted to work with Beaverton code.

2826
04:06:02,820 --> 04:06:10,440
We still have very little flexibility in terms of the projects that are subject to this review and the rules themselves.

2827
04:06:10,980 --> 04:06:15,100
However, what we do need to do is figure out how this works with Beaverton's codes.

2828
04:06:15,100 --> 04:06:19,260
But we can't just adopt the model code wholesale in addition to the issues with the organ

2829
04:06:19,260 --> 04:06:22,660
land use law that hopefully will be resolved with DLCD's assistance.

2830
04:06:23,640 --> 04:06:26,860
Our code is not a freestanding floodplain ordinance.

2831
04:06:28,100 --> 04:06:31,860
Those rules are actually integrated into the development code and into the city code.

2832
04:06:32,080 --> 04:06:34,880
So there's no way for us to do it without kind of teasing it apart.

2833
04:06:35,140 --> 04:06:39,920
And because it's a moving target, we really think we need to take a little bit of time to make

2834
04:06:39,920 --> 04:06:45,220
sure that we're doing as much we can to respond to Beaverton's specific situation.

2835
04:06:46,220 --> 04:06:50,680
And then in the long term, once that federal environmental review is completed, there

2836
04:06:50,680 --> 04:06:52,740
will be some additional options.

2837
04:06:53,000 --> 04:06:56,740
I don't want to pretend that they're going to be really wonderful options, but there will

2838
04:06:56,740 --> 04:07:02,200
be more flexibility in that final program than there is currently under these pickups.

2839
04:07:02,200 --> 04:07:11,560
So at that time, staff suggest that the city consider taking some time to tailor a program

2840
04:07:11,940 --> 04:07:16,660
and rules that will actually be able to respond more effectively to the Beaverton context

2841
04:07:17,080 --> 04:07:21,060
and consider things like a fee and loop program so that mitigation can happen in one place

2842
04:07:21,060 --> 04:07:22,940
and meal development happens in others.

2843
04:07:23,200 --> 04:07:26,260
That's not an option that we have under these pickups right now.

2844
04:07:28,540 --> 04:07:30,940
So there are a couple of next steps I want to note.

2845
04:07:30,940 --> 04:07:35,840
One of them is that the city does need to inform FEMA of plans to move forward by December

2846
04:07:35,840 --> 04:07:40,160
1st. It's not formal. They said it can be an email, so it doesn't need official

2847
04:07:40,160 --> 04:07:45,740
counsel action, but we do need to hear from you tonight. We need to provide support for

2848
04:07:45,740 --> 04:07:51,640
applicants and property owners and staff who are working or contemplating development on sites

2849
04:07:51,640 --> 04:07:56,100
that are affected by the floodplain. This may include CIP projects, although nothing has kind of

2850
04:07:56,100 --> 04:08:00,520
popping up that's the CIP project. We need to do some data collection that FEMA is going to tell

2851
04:08:00,520 --> 04:08:05,520
more about that's beginning in January. And then finally, we need to be continuing to coordinate

2852
04:08:05,520 --> 04:08:10,820
with FEMA with our jurisdictional partners at the county level, regional level, and state level

2853
04:08:11,300 --> 04:08:18,740
in addition to our friends in Washington in order to really understand as best as we can what's

2854
04:08:18,740 --> 04:08:25,760
going on and how we can respond. And with that, questions, thoughts, comments from council would be

2855
04:08:25,760 --> 04:08:31,560
presented. Thank you. This isn't Vivertens first having to comply with flood

2856
04:08:31,560 --> 04:08:36,000
plains, the long history of where the police station was going to be, and then

2857
04:08:36,000 --> 04:08:40,680
it being rejected by FEMA. So I'm comfortable supporting your recommendations to

2858
04:08:40,680 --> 04:08:43,740
us right now. It doesn't feel like there's really a choice in this for us. So

2859
04:08:43,740 --> 04:08:49,200
thanks for coming. But I mean, I guess if you have any strong opinions, counts

2860
04:08:49,200 --> 04:08:54,360
or hurt my outbreak. No, I thank you for trying to find a way to comply. I think

2861
04:08:54,360 --> 04:08:55,680
that's the best we can do, right?

2862
04:08:56,180 --> 04:09:01,000
I mean, I think when I hear the correlation

2863
04:09:01,000 --> 04:09:03,700
of the FEMA stuff with the flood insurance, right.

2864
04:09:03,940 --> 04:09:05,180
Like, yeah, there is no choice.

2865
04:09:05,400 --> 04:09:06,060
We have to comply.

2866
04:09:06,220 --> 04:09:07,700
So thank you for coming up with options.

2867
04:09:08,360 --> 04:09:10,480
When I was reading the options, I think the case by case,

2868
04:09:10,840 --> 04:09:14,140
is hopefully the most flexible for staff right now

2869
04:09:14,140 --> 04:09:17,120
while there's still stuff working out about it.

2870
04:09:17,400 --> 04:09:21,020
So in support, making sure you have support on the record

2871
04:09:21,020 --> 04:09:25,140
to show that we were making a good faith effort towards the complaint.

2872
04:09:25,960 --> 04:09:26,640
Councillor Dugger.

2873
04:09:27,140 --> 04:09:29,260
I know this is an incredibly stupid question.

2874
04:09:29,420 --> 04:09:32,160
I'm assuming there's no implementation money from VMA coming.

2875
04:09:32,500 --> 04:09:32,960
Just a dictate.

2876
04:09:33,760 --> 04:09:34,560
It's okay to-

2877
04:09:34,560 --> 04:09:35,960
Yeah, no, there's not.

2878
04:09:38,420 --> 04:09:39,140
That's correct.

2879
04:09:40,720 --> 04:09:42,840
And I'm assuming you don't know what kind of mitigation

2880
04:09:42,840 --> 04:09:45,020
would be required for a piped creek.

2881
04:09:46,040 --> 04:09:51,000
So the mitigation actually depends on what the impact is at this point.

2882
04:09:51,000 --> 04:09:56,140
the development. So they use what's called a no-nut law standard and they use a couple

2883
04:09:56,140 --> 04:10:01,500
of proxies for habitat impacts. And so if you can't achieve a no-nut law under these

2884
04:10:01,500 --> 04:10:05,780
categories, then you need to find a way to mitigate. And they actually do spell out what

2885
04:10:05,780 --> 04:10:13,220
is identified as appropriate mitigation. They're not appealing mitigations. And so it's really

2886
04:10:13,220 --> 04:10:18,860
going to be a pretty strong deterrent for development that affects areas within that floodplain.

2887
04:10:20,780 --> 04:10:26,740
So the only thing I would add, and I know this was kind of a vague statement, but especially

2888
04:10:26,740 --> 04:10:31,660
within the Bureau area, I think we're on the precipice of a lot of development, right?

2889
04:10:31,800 --> 04:10:37,240
Like we've done a lot of infrastructure work a lot, so we can look at those 900 properties

2890
04:10:37,240 --> 04:10:42,840
and probably make some educated guesses on which ones are probably need to get our attention

2891
04:10:42,840 --> 04:10:50,840
first, you know. And as much certainty as we can provide for the land owners and the

2892
04:10:50,840 --> 04:10:55,460
developers, you know, that's one of the things I hear consistently is like, if rules are

2893
04:10:55,460 --> 04:11:00,440
changing, I'm not going to, it's a risk problem, right? I'm not going to invest too much.

2894
04:11:00,640 --> 04:11:07,540
So as much stability as we can provide and guidance to those land owners, I know that's

2895
04:11:07,540 --> 04:11:12,700
going to be intensive resource wise, particularly since we're getting nothing from FEMA, but

2896
04:11:12,700 --> 04:11:17,940
I just think about a lot of people that are a lot of landowners are sitting there waiting

2897
04:11:18,480 --> 04:11:20,120
and this is another wait.

2898
04:11:20,380 --> 04:11:25,500
So if we could provide any sort of guidance to them, that would be my preference.

2899
04:11:26,100 --> 04:11:28,060
I think we're very sensitive to that.

2900
04:11:28,580 --> 04:11:31,160
Unfortunately, this is not a situation where we can offer much clarity.

2901
04:11:32,040 --> 04:11:37,600
We can share what we know, absolutely, everything in terms of those, the model code, the habitat

2902
04:11:38,260 --> 04:11:41,280
site assessment, that's all out there.

2903
04:11:41,280 --> 04:11:48,940
but we also know that those things are changing, so we are going to do our best to identify

2904
04:11:48,940 --> 04:11:54,460
these risks and communicate them, but we also don't want to go out with a message that

2905
04:11:54,460 --> 04:12:01,840
we know is going to change because that might create more frustration.

2906
04:12:03,380 --> 04:12:04,060
Councilor Teeter.

2907
04:12:06,340 --> 04:12:07,240
Thank you, Andy.

2908
04:12:07,880 --> 04:12:09,960
Yeah, I'm comfortable moving forward with you all's recommendation.

2909
04:12:11,740 --> 04:12:13,720
My brain is also in the Bureau of District.

2910
04:12:14,640 --> 04:12:22,200
And I'm curious about the phase of the process, where this would actually affect projects.

2911
04:12:22,500 --> 04:12:27,000
So if a project was received approval, I assume it would be good to go.

2912
04:12:27,140 --> 04:12:30,140
It wouldn't be affected, even if it's not under construction.

2913
04:12:32,780 --> 04:12:37,600
So I think one of the things that's important is that we don't have a 32-ply code that

2914
04:12:37,600 --> 04:12:38,740
aren't actually already adopted.

2915
04:12:40,400 --> 04:12:46,840
And so for projects that have all of their permits, they can build.

2916
04:12:47,060 --> 04:12:50,100
They're good to go as long as they don't have delays and let the permits expire.

2917
04:12:50,980 --> 04:12:53,740
For projects that have maybe one permit but they need another one.

2918
04:12:54,360 --> 04:12:58,160
Again, for now we'll be applying existing codes, but at the point where we're adopting

2919
04:12:59,320 --> 04:13:04,280
the whatever modification of the model code that we are adopting, those new rules are going

2920
04:13:04,280 --> 04:13:10,500
to apply. And there is a risk for projects that are part way through the process that

2921
04:13:10,500 --> 04:13:16,080
they could be caught in that rule change. And so one of the things that we do need to do

2922
04:13:16,080 --> 04:13:21,680
is figure out, again, this goes back to the communication. We need to be informing folks about

2923
04:13:21,680 --> 04:13:27,400
those risks so that they can make rational decisions about how they're approaching the potential

2924
04:13:27,400 --> 04:13:33,180
to develop their property. There is also, you know, these rules apply within the special

2925
04:13:33,180 --> 04:13:38,240
flood hazard area, not on the entire property. So in lots of cases there will be a property

2926
04:13:38,240 --> 04:13:43,460
where a portion of it is in this flood zone and a portion of it is not. If they can choose

2927
04:13:44,280 --> 04:13:50,540
to avoid that flood area, then they're in much better stead, not every property has the

2928
04:13:50,540 --> 04:13:54,580
ability to do that. So it's really going to be tremendously variable on a case-by-case basis

2929
04:13:54,580 --> 04:13:57,140
and so we're going to need to talk to folks individually

2930
04:13:57,140 --> 04:14:02,180
in order to really help them understand what the risks are

2931
04:14:02,180 --> 04:14:03,620
and what could happen.

2932
04:14:04,900 --> 04:14:05,020
Great.

2933
04:14:05,400 --> 04:14:05,520
OK.

2934
04:14:05,740 --> 04:14:06,620
Thank you.

2935
04:14:06,740 --> 04:14:08,120
Goal search, Timnon.

2936
04:14:09,300 --> 04:14:10,500
Very quick question.

2937
04:14:11,080 --> 04:14:13,600
Other than stocked ponds like progress and commonwealth,

2938
04:14:13,840 --> 04:14:16,180
are there fish in these creeks?

2939
04:14:19,220 --> 04:14:21,300
I don't know the answer to that question.

2940
04:14:21,320 --> 04:14:22,500
There's a lot of creeks in Beaverton.

2941
04:14:22,620 --> 04:14:23,580
I'm sure some of them have fish.

2942
04:14:26,040 --> 04:14:35,340
But, like, right, I mean, there are lots of places, you know, you walk around downtown

2943
04:14:35,340 --> 04:14:35,700
again.

2944
04:14:35,920 --> 04:14:41,460
You look at a parking lot that's been paved for decades and decades and decades, does

2945
04:14:41,460 --> 04:14:46,520
not immediately appear to the amateur as being fish habitat.

2946
04:14:48,330 --> 04:14:54,240
It's a complex topic, but the bottom line right now is that even if it is obviously not fish

2947
04:14:56,380 --> 04:14:59,240
these rules don't give us the option of...

2948
04:15:02,590 --> 04:15:31,590
Granting exceptions. All right. Thanks for hanging with us. Good luck tomorrow getting up with your kids for school. So we'll be thinking about you. All right. We do have one last agenda item council and this council new business. I do have something for us tonight. One of the things that is our responsibility of the city council is doing the review of our three employees. We have not done that. We have a new city. We're going to be hiring a new city attorney.

2949
04:15:31,590 --> 04:15:37,090
So I want us to as we're adopting our council rules and the work that we're doing now

2950
04:15:37,090 --> 04:15:42,150
We need to move on to this next step of also our responsibility, which is the review of our employees

2951
04:15:42,150 --> 04:15:49,150
So I'd like to recommend we create a subcommittee to put together a process for the council for the judge the city attorney and

2952
04:15:49,150 --> 04:15:53,310
The city manager and I gave some thought if we're amenable

2953
04:15:53,310 --> 04:15:59,690
To might serve on that subcommittee and I think counselor Hassan based on her HR background and it's something

2954
04:15:59,690 --> 04:16:15,610
she's been very interested in and Councillor Duggar, given that he manages more people than anyone on the council right now and myself and I think three of us could work with Kirsten who does not report to us but reports to one of our employees to help make sure that we're staying within

2955
04:16:16,190 --> 04:16:23,230
the legal compines and then find it necessary to find a consultant based on our outcomes of that so that's my proposal.

2956
04:16:23,230 --> 04:16:31,970
So mayor, so that process is already underway for me. I advise the council that we retain the facilitator is courting with my contract

2957
04:16:32,690 --> 04:16:38,390
To do the review so I'd like to take a look at that because I think you picking your own consultant

2958
04:16:38,390 --> 04:16:42,630
It's not in your contract. So this has been sent to the council a while back

2959
04:16:42,630 --> 04:16:47,970
So I can send you an update on where we're at and with that and then we can figure out where you'd like to go

2960
04:16:47,970 --> 04:16:54,250
Yeah, well, well, I think it will come to the subcommittee if we're minimal to that and the subcommittee will make some decisions.

2961
04:16:54,450 --> 04:16:59,190
Um, to clarify subcommittee to, like, help figure out the process.

2962
04:16:59,350 --> 04:17:00,450
Yeah, yeah, not do the review.

2963
04:17:00,650 --> 04:17:07,990
Yeah, but to put it the process together for us to come back because we can't do it in an open session and we really need a couple people to focus on it.

2964
04:17:09,030 --> 04:17:10,310
Yep. Good.

2965
04:17:12,340 --> 04:17:13,420
Can I chime in real quick?

2966
04:17:13,420 --> 04:17:17,440
Yeah, Jenny, I want to ask you for a little more clarity.

2967
04:17:18,020 --> 04:17:21,060
You're saying your contract says what about the consultant?

2968
04:17:21,120 --> 04:17:25,580
My contract sets up the process that a facilitator will be used.

2969
04:17:25,860 --> 04:17:27,680
I cannot recall though, we'll need to pull it.

2970
04:17:27,980 --> 04:17:30,260
How that facilitator is selected.

2971
04:17:30,420 --> 04:17:32,240
And I think that's what the mayor meant by that.

2972
04:17:32,520 --> 04:17:33,400
Okay, okay, thanks.

2973
04:17:33,800 --> 04:17:35,360
But would you have two other employees?

2974
04:17:35,540 --> 04:17:36,640
She's not our only employee.

2975
04:17:37,020 --> 04:17:40,260
And so she's taking care of her own, but selected that process.

2976
04:17:40,620 --> 04:17:42,080
We need to be doing that work.

2977
04:17:42,080 --> 04:17:50,080
and so I think that three of us on the subcommittee will work with our legal department to make sure that we're in compliance going forward and that

2978
04:17:50,080 --> 04:17:55,140
review hasn't actually started so I think we'll be okay. All right, thanks.

2979
04:17:58,930 --> 04:18:13,290
You're not in the chat. I'm sorry. I was waiting for Councillor Hussain to say something but it came up in conversation before the meeting today that when an item is pulled from consent agenda if we could get a heads up on that

2980
04:18:14,110 --> 04:18:21,210
as early as possible so that everyone just knows to maybe take a closer look at

2981
04:18:21,210 --> 04:18:25,650
the agenda bill doesn't even need to say who the who which council are

2982
04:18:25,650 --> 04:18:31,090
pulled at just to know. Yeah and so I think the process we've done now in is to

2983
04:18:31,090 --> 04:18:34,850
email me and the city manager and then we'll have the city manager inform the rest

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of the council the item has been pulled but don't start emailing each other saying

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that you're pulling at. So we'll work on that piece. Cool.