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>> all right.

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Let's do this.

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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

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>> and if you please stand for the prayer in the pledge now your heads please father god, we come to you and we just are so thankful for this day.

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First of all, we are thankful for the beautiful weather that you've given us in this glorious sunshine that we will all live under today.

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Father, we just ask that you put your hands upon each and every one of us and continue to bless us and you continue to bless this county.

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Father, we ask that you instill your will in each one of us that sit up here so that we make decisions that are in the benefit of all citizens of marion county.

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And father, we just thank you that we live in marion county where we are able to come together and we're able to do the work for the citizens of this county in your name and that you continue to bless each and every one of us.

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Please watch over our first responders as they go about their daily business and watch over our service men and women here and abroad in the lord jesus name we pray.

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>> amen.

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And as we just do the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all

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>> good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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Madam clerk, if you'll call the roll.

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Yes, sir.

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Chairman zalak, your vice chairman mcclain here.

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Commissioner curry?

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chairman zalak, your vice chairman mcclain here. Commissioner curry?-

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chairman zalak, your vice chairman mcclain here. Yeah.ssioner curry?- commissioner bryant here.

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Commissioner stone.

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>> you're all right.

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So we can have our meeting.

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Everyone, just a reminder if you would please take out your cell phone and any other devices that ring or do anything funky and please put them on silence.

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If you have to take a phone call, please go outside to take that.

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If not please come to the podium so we can all participate.

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Today we have our regular scheduled board of county commissioners meeting.

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At 150 we have our c.r.a.

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Community redevelopment agency meeting.

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At 2:00 today we'll have our regularly scheduled third tuesday of every month planning and zoning meeting and hen tomorrow at 130 we ill have our ext regularly scheduled wednesday planning and zoning meeting with that commissioners.

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We have a couple of proclamations and to go so moved I have a motion by commissioner bryant second by commissioner curry.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passes unanimously.

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You throw me around front.

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>> commissioner mcclain will present engineering we all the engineers come on up.

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Look at all these people beautiful.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for being in.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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>> good morning.

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Morning.

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Marcus is here in the morning.

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>> and he wins attorneys week.

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>> yeah, whatever that is.

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You know there should be man, I wish I could be your public comment.

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You come up and.

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Good morning.

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Hey, how are you?

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Good morning.

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How are you?

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Yeah.

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Good morning.

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Hey, good morning.

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How are you?

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These are great until the engineers are on journeys.

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>> yeah.

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That's awesome.

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Pretty darn good.

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You guys need a lot more.

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Need to bring her in.

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I'm going to go.

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>> very good.

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Here you all get on in there for you.

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>> all right.

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Well, good morning, everyone.

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Thank you for being here with us.

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I keep forgetting mike mccain's an engineer.

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That's the you know, university of florida engineer got here.

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All right.

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Well, thank you all for joining us today.

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Let me present this proclamation from the board of county commissioners.

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Says whereas national engineers week founded in 1951 by the national society of professional engineers is always celebrated at the time of george washington's birthday in february because he was our first president and military engineer.

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And.

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Whereas, professional engineers make significant contributions to improve and support our quality of life in marion county through innovative and creative solutions to technical problems.

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And.

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Wereas, professional engineers hold considerable responsibilities for the benefit and protection of marion county citizens and the areas of public safety, health, welfare, the environment, transportation, water power and communications as well

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as mechanical electrical and electronic devices important to everyday life.

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And.

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Whereas, engineers are encouraging our young math and science students to realize the practical power of their knowledge.

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Whereas, the purpose of national engineers week is to increase public awareness and appreciation of the engineering profession.

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Whereas, the 2026 national engineers week theme transform your future is a powerful reminder that engineering shapes our opportunities, our communities and the futures we can imagine for ourselves and for our children.

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Now therefore the board of county commissioners of marion county, florida by virtue of the authority vested in us do hereby proclaim february 22nd through february 28th 2026 be known as the engineers week duly proclaimed the 17th day of february

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2026, signed by all five county commissioners and attested to by greg harrell, our clerk of the court.

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So I want to first want to thank all of you for all that you do in the community, all that you do for our county.

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We have so many talented people in all areas with our stakeholders in the county.

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Our folks here even in our administration we have a number of engineers.

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You uys help.

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You guys are the problem solvers for this community and we depend on you for a lot.

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So thank you very much for all that you do.

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>> yes.

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Well thank you so much.

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We appreciate t.

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We are here on behalf of florida engineering society and we are here to, you know, promote the advancement for and advocate for the engineering profession we have a couple of stem outreach programs coming up shortly that I just want to do a

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quick shout out for which is mouth the counts which is february 21st and that is for middle school students.

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And then we also have engineering day march 7th.

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>> so we really hope to see more young professionals out there and bring them into the community and e appreciate that.

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>> thank you.

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Wonderful.

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Thank you very an engineering thing.

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At the discovery center.

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>> so you had a you had a question.

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You're ready for the discovery center?

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>> at the discovery center is engineering day and it's a really cool activity for students of all ages to come and we do egg drops rom dfferent heights and they have to protect that egg and then water filtration systems and it's a cool engaging

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activity for you know, children to to learn a little bit of engineering that's great.

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>> let's give all of our engineering professionals another round of applause please.

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>> thank you.

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I was there there I know you have you all are proud of you I guess problem solvers.

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Yeah, I know I didn't yeah yeah right yeah I know I let's bring the curry difference in had me so sidebar sidebar turn that tile.

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All right we have next we have public comment mr.

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Walker is signed up for five minutes to talk about item nine one update on various road projects.

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Mr.

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Walker, I'm not here and you signed up.

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>> okay.

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Hurry up.

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Move on.

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Oh, all right.

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>> anybody else in the public like to speak on one of the agenda items are seeing none.

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Fantastic.

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We'll bring it back to the board.

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>> we have five sets of minutes, commissioners so moved have a motion ith the minutes by commissioner bryant second by commissioner stone.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passed unanimously have no constitutional officers mr.

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Clerk good morning, sir.

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>> good morning, mr.

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Chair.

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Good morning.

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Board have for the board's consideration and adoption budget amendment resolution items 511 through 516 would point out that item 513 relates to consent agenda item 764.

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>> kay commissioners, would you like to pull anything?

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All right.

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I'm in motion for the consent here.

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>> sure.

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Does anybody want to pull 764?

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No, no.

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All right, I'll move up.

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Seven, six four as well as 511351 six a motion by commissioner bryant second by commissioner curry.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed I passed unanimously as for making it easy for me today thank you.

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>> thank you, mr.

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Chair.

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Item 521 is a project adjustment request related to the infrastructure surtax capital project fund.

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>> all right, excellent update the sales tax so moved on second motion by commissioner bryant second by commissioner mcclain.

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All those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passes unanimously s well.

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>> all right.

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Finally, mr.

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Chair item 31 which is a request for disposition of miscellaneous property by commissioners any questions on the property to approve?

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I have a motion approved by commissioner curry second by commissioner stone.

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All those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passes unanimously.

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All right.

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Questions we're going to move on consent.

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Commissioner stone I have nothing all my questions got answered as late s even this morning.

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>> so thank you.

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Perfect.

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Commissioner bryant, I have nothing.

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>> I just will make one note.

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I'm really glad to see and we already passed it ut 764.

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Finally.

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Okay, good.

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No, that's been a long time coming.

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>> all right.

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Any other questions or comments?

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Commissioner curry good.

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>> no question.

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Mclane we do have a couple of revisions on 732751 eight one a a walk on and eight two is a walk on by the county attorney so commissioners in regards to the revisions any questions or issues mounir just let's go over those revisions real quick

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>> 732 commissioners that's the county state housing initiative partnership but the revision on page eight section h one in page ten section eight one to include priority will be given to families who wish to reside in an unincorporated arion

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county.

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>> okay, excellent.

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That's the addition we added to the plan.

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Thank you for fixing that.

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>> sure appreciate you and seven five one it's the letter of engagement with the trust for public land.

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We are adding that regional parks would be the focus of that study to we clarify in parks and recreation to be at the regional level.

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>> yeah ommissioners I know that we had that conversation already and I just wanted even our letter to be on notice that we're focused on regional parks.

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If we're talking about parks at all in that egard.

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>> so any other questions or comments on those?

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All right.

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Or good to its core, can we move them ll in the consent agenda with the revisions?

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All right.

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Commissioners will take a motion if you guys are prepared.

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>> so I moved have a motion to move the consent agenda with the revisions by commissioner stone or seconded by commissioner curry.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passed unanimously.

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All right, r.

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Attorney, we've got a couple of walk ons from you, sir.

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Cmmissioners, I need a motion to accept both these walk ons I moved second motion to consider by commissioner mcclain, second by commissioner bryant.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed passes unanimously.

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>> all right, mr.

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Minter.

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Good morning, mr.

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Chair.

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>> item 8.1 relates o a board decision back in december of last year denying a small scale plan amendment that had a concurrent result owning for a period attached to t for a property off of southwest 80th street and southwest 72nd court.

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So he board denied that application and for the small scale amendment and then the property owner withdrew the rezoning because they needed the complaint amendment for the rezoning.

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Subsequent to that in january of this year the applicant ms.

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Campos only through her attorney mr.

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Roper in orlando filed a request for a mediation and I flew her hearing.

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We're becoming more familiar with those things lately and among other things that would call for a mediation process that could take a day of board a board member and staff time to go through that in lieu of that and discussions with attorney

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roper, we've subject to the board's approval of course agreed that we would I would recommend to the board that the board allow this as a way to be able to bring her application potentially with modifications back before the normal 12 month

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period that you usually have to wait and then that would come before the board.

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This this agreement makes no commitment whatsoever that the board would approve any new application for ms.

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Campos okay.

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But this is in lieu of the the florida proceeding.

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One of the outcome potential outcomes of the polluter proceeding is that it might end up coming back before the board anyway.

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So it's the thought of mr.

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Roper and myself that this might save all the parties concerned some time and attorney fees.

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>> so my recommendation is the board allow this if the board agrees with this then at the next board meeting I would bring a very brief agreement signed by both parties back to the board itemizing these items.

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>> mr.

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Mitchell the reason you're considering this is because there's some technicality otherwise we wouldn't bring these back in before 12 months, correct?

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>> normally, right.

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There was an issue with he notice in the application last time, you know otherwise we wouldn't consider it within a year.

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Commissioners, if you remember this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that intersection especially but was

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that intersection especially but was-

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that there ection especially but was-

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that there mr. On especially but was-

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that there mr. Chairman ally but was-

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that there mr. Chairman mr. But was-

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this this is the one that we denied on 80th because of that there mr. Chairman mr. Mr.t was- minter was there a reason that we had to do this on a walk on and it couldn't have just come to us in our agenda in march?

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>> well again I think here's a thought that we're trying to do this as expeditiously as possible to give her an opportunity to go ahead and bring this back within six months.

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So that was the rather just the timing issue our commissioners any other questions anyone in the public want to comment about bringing this hearing back?

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>> yes, mr.

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Little please.

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>> yes, bernie little 4899 northwest 90th avenue, ocala.

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It's a walk on item and so I don't I wasn't aware of it.

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It's not on the current agenda for the county right.

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Will these documents be posted to where someone like me can look at them publicly?

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>> we're talking about the walk on item or are we talking about the walk on this particular walk on item?

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I just checked again, it's not on the current agenda for this morning so if I assume they're public record and if they are a copy of there you go right here.

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Well thank you so much.

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>> I'm happy to give it to simone or this this does get updated.

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When does it get updated and how does it work?

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We will we will post them with the after agenda material and then they will be this item will be on the next agenda.

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>> was all the information you're discussing today and and there will be an additional agreement from mr.

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Minter bringing it to you for approval.

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>> okay.

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Hopefully that makes sense.

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Mr.

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Little any other questions or comments?

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>> all right.

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So you know, we'll bring it back to the board commissioners.

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So mr.

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Chair, before we make a motion but I would just like to say this on something like this I think it's important when it comes to the public and it's a decision that we've already made that it could possibly be coming back to us and the decision

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could be changed that these don't come to us in a walk on unless it's absolutely necessary.

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You know, in light of mr.

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Little's comments, the ublic has no idea that this is going on.

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So they've had no opportunity to come out and give any input on this and I understand that it's all being done on a technicality.

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But unless this was super time sensitive, I really believe that these items should be on a published agenda.

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>> I don't disagree.

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I mean we aren't going to republish it though and have an entire public hearing on it.

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So I mean yeah I, I, I understand your sentiments though and I understand mr.

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Little sentiment so we will publish them and make them part of the agenda.

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>> so thank you commissioner bryant as always.

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So any other concerns or are you okay to move this forward?

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>> I'll make a motion to approve the agreement waiving the 12 month limitation for refiling of this application.

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>> thank you commissioner stone have a motion to approve second by commissioner mcclain.

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All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passed unanimously.

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So please make sure that these get on the updated agenda.

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Thank you, sir.

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>> yes, sir.

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All right.

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We also have the second item, mr.

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Minter yes.

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>> the board will recall that back in november of 25 mr.

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Jason roberts, the ceo of upper communities made a presentation to the board regarding his firm's proposal a very unique proposal to provide affordable housing for essential workforce for government agencies including potentially marion county

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employee city of ocala employees, marion county public school and marion county sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique project that among other things

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique project that among other things-

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique would t that among other things-

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique would provide mong other things-

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique would provide for other things-

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique would provide for marion things-

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sheriff's office employees and this would be a a unique would provide for marion county- to own the tract of land and then there would be a master lease agreement between marion county and the developer.

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The developer would develop several hundred a single family homes, single family and or potentially multifamily homes that would have the benefit of lower than normal arket rates for rentals for qualifying public employees the idea being that

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this would address the dual needs of public agencies both for attracting new employees because of the need for affordable housing and also retaining employees that we already have for the same reason.

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So it's a very interesting proposal.

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The same company currently has a project that they're working through the details on up in franklin county a little bit different than us but at this point all I'm asking for from the board is consensus is for us to continue our due diligence

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review of this.

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That was a request of upward communities they have a council with gray robinson in orlando and also their bond counsel up in tallahassee, brian miller and have and we're going to be having a subsequent meeting when I say we chris traver, our

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bond counsel and myself and representatives from the clerk's office this coming friday to continue to evaluate the aspects of the financing.

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Of course our objective in this is to look at it from every possible angle and determine that this would be safe for the board of county commissioners to enter into such a deal.

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It would be kind of somewhat similar to a conduit financing that we enter into with industrial revenue bonds.

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So generally speaking the board would not have direct liability on any of the bonds that would be used to finance it.

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But we want to make sure that the board wouldn't be exposed to any indirect negative impacts on our financial statement as a result of the project.

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So again we've been working aong in discussions both in person with representative from upwork communities and munir's office and online zoom calls with their representatives and we're just asking for their benefit.

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They want to know that the board is really has an interest in this and that's so I'm asking for today commissioners any questions comments yeah I mean yeah I'm still very interested to to see the process through and to see what the possibility

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of doing that is.

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I think there's a significant benefit that that could that could be for for the county and for our staff and employees and I think it's a great idea.

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>> so I'd like to see it continue doesn't mean we have to do it but I'd like to see the process through.

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>> right.

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I feel the same way.

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I mean good opportunity but as I we had a conversation previously mr.

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Minter I want to make sure that the county and the taxpayers are very protected.

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You know, just like when we kind of did the landfill deal, I want to make sure at the end of it that worst case scenario and we know exactly what that is and taxpayers don't lose.

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Right?

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I mean I think the court will make sure that that happens between all of us.

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I think we're we're in good shape so long as we can all come to some kind of agreement.

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>> mr.

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Kirk, I just wanted to see if the clerk had any if you had any involvement of this since the last.

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Yes and certainly the finance team under.

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Ms.

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Cole and myself we've had conversations with mr.

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Minter, mr.

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Traver, you know mr.

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Minter and it's typical way very well.

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And so ust wanting to continue those discussions more than anything I think the concern is how what the actual documents would look like and say and how that would translate to what would be on the county's books as far s potential liability

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and long term debt obligations .

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>> yeah.

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Would it affect our bonding in the future those kind of questions right.

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They're all great questions that we need to know at least if we yeah and just as an aside commissioner curry, I would say to you know I think you know as the discussion goes forward if the sort of methodology nd approach looks sound you know

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I think it's worth having an honest conversation for you all amongst yourselves and with each other at meetings.

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>> you know there is sort of the national narrative of a need for public housing.

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I will say at least in my own experience part of the growth we're experiencing here in marion county is still relative to other places even in the state, much less he country.

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We're actually in pretty good shape.

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I mean I keep getting new employees from south florida because they're moving up here because it's more affordable to buy housing here.

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So I think, you know, before you get too far down the road of does the financial package make sense, it's like is that something you really want to commit to or not?

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>> your question thank you, mr.

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Craig well, you know the only originally I think the big concern from the commission was that it was looking like we were going to encumber upwards of $200 million of bonding but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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>> yeah, I think you know all that remains to be seen.

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We certainly we've heard representations from their principal that it wouldn't be the case but it's still a fairly novel concept that's still being worked out in its first iterations elsewhere.

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So it's not in my opinion sort of a tried and true proven approach yet it's not to say can't work or you can't get there but there's definitely some lingering concern about you know, somebody is going to be on the hook and it's most likely the

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county that kind of money in that scope project isn't done without somebody ultimately being on the hook for it.

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>> great questions.

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Commissioner curry anyone else real good with your staff?

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>> well, I mean I think we've all said about the same thing and I don't think our position has changed.

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W're very interested but again we are not willing to encumber our our borrowing abilities and bonding abilities in the future .

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>> yeah, I mean I think listen until until there's a documentation I don't think anyone's changed their mind right until we can evaluate the actual deal there's no deal in front of us at this point.

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We need to figure that part out and then once once the deal comes to us and we get a draft paper document then we can actually make it we can actually start to make some decisions until then we're interested.

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So I'm not guidance that's good .

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All right.

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Any anyone of the public you heard our discussion anyone in the public would like to comment.

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This is a walk on item thing.

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None.

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We'll bring it back to the board is all you needed was consensus.

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>> yeah.

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All right.

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>> excellent.

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Anything else, mr.

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Attorney?

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No, thank you.

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No story?

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>> no.

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All right.

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We'll move on to the stories of our county administrator.

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>> good morning.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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>> and the story for you today is an update on our road projects.

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Excellent.

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>> favorite story ur favorite story.

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Good morning.

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Stephen kane, county engineer.

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I'm here to present the february 2026 update.

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Just a reminder for the public to this is just a snapshot of what we've got going on in the county.

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If you o to the agenda you can download the map of some of our highest priority projects as well as more information on numerous projects throughout the county.

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With that I'll go right into the presentation.

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I wanted to highlight the southwest 40th the 49th avenue phase one project as well lots o work going on right now southwest 60 street 66th street intersection improvement phase one detour is an acted.

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We're also improving upon that detour.

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So we did get some citizen concerns.

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The phase two detour is expected to have portable changeable message boards on 200 with some of the confusion we heard from the community we're going to go ahead move forward with that in our phase one so our teams are out there putting some

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of those message boards out today on 200 coordinating with dot as well as the contractor to try to get some additional information out to the community.

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Aso finding ways to improve coordination, other ways we were meeting with numerous entities throughout the county giving presentations last night my deputy county engineer was giving a presentation to a group as well.

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>> this detour is expected to be complete without signage on 200 and what is that?

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It's 80th right?

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Tat is that right steven I'm sorry on 80th itself I don't believe there's any signage on .

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We need signage there.

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Right.

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So at least put it there.

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So when people hit 80th they know the detour for the bridge.

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We need something they're saying hey, this is the way you should go instead of making people go like we talked about all the way down to 66 right or 60th going all the way down all the way back around back to 80th and then down like that's so

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annoying.

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>> it is and I get it if you already hit it but if you haven't hit it yet and you're coming from there we need to be warning people like we talked about all the way down 200 hey the bridge has a detour right?

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Fastest way there or whatever you want to say.

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Yep.

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Need to be turning on trying to divert as much traffic on 80th as we can.

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>> I'll bring that back to the team this morning for the phase one and see what we can do in coordination with d.o.t.

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As well to get all that taken care of.

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The city did approve the left turn lane extension at 42nd or 43rd street and 40th avenue and then the design is underway for the dual lefts at 27 as well as the extension for the westbound left turn lane southwest 80th avenue segment one.

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So with today's approval of these various agreements we'll be able to move forward with the construction activities.

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We're reviewing the schedule right now, the cpm schedule.

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There's a lot of back and forth with the contractor identifying what is the critical path.

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We all agree to that.

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Then we move forward with the pre con and ultimately construction we're looking at around a february 15th date to give that notice to proceed to the contractor and let them loose or 16th I'm sorry also talking about that coordination we've been

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meeting with numerous entities and we've got an indigo east meeting that's going to be coming up to try to get more word out as construction activities ramp up.

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Just last week we met with the school board and the new principal at the south marion high school and have some more school presentations that will be giving the later part of this month southwest 80th and 70th avenue segment three.

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>> so this is going to e the next major project that lets loose out f the office of the county engineer.

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We're finishing up some of our last few negotiations.

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The good news for us work is the largest roperty owner as it relates to outstanding teaching properties.

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They have agreed verbally to let us have a right of entry agreement.

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What that does is open up that project for us as we're negotiating and settling the last few remaining parcels that'll open up the entire north half of this project potentially they have a lot of holdings on the east side down here as well that

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gives us a comfort level to move forward.

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We talked a little bit about the cpm schedule.

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We can work with the contractor saying you can work in these areas, you cannot work in these areas.

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Concurrent activities start to open up and we can start to see some progress out here on this particular project you have that agreement.

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>> I don't have it yet verbally they've agreed to I'm working with their attorney as well as our legal team getting all of that squared away will execute.

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That gives us the comfort level to move forward with an advertisement as well as some additional parcels that are going to stipulate or of taking hearing in april once we see how all of this plays out which I don't have any hesitation but that

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allows us to advertise this project and start construction out here.

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>> so it's it's coming it's coming quick hold on one second mr.

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West are we getting close on that agreement so we can start work or no, I haven't seen the agreement yet.

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I can't tell you but I think it would be a pretty straightforward agreement.

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>> okay.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you.

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We're we're expecting atp to the contractor june july of this year and then right behind that's going to be the 49th street project as well while we also are gearing up for the 38th and 40th 38th 40th avenue project as well.

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So we talked a little bit about bonding at the strategic plan update.

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I believe the 80th 70th avenue segment three we will have enough funds to move that one forward without a bond consideration.

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It starts to become a real conversation where the 40 not street 38 40th avenue as well the marion oaks flyover all of those are going to start the discussion for the bonding and in a nutshell I know I jumped around a little bit those are those

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are the highlights that I've got before you today and will absolutely be working to get some improved signage out there for that reason and any other questions or comments?

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>> mr.

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Curry yes, sir.

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Is it fair to say from your best guesstimate that he four lining of ideas the entire 11 miles while seeing 27 going up to the new interchange and including bucky's that all of this will be completed by 28?

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I think we're going to be extremely close with the exception of the segment two so when you go south of 40 and you tie in to where our phase 1/80 avenue project is that segment two it's a little over a mile and a half remnant that will still

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be in design and gearing up for construction.

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So thinking about the top that's the one that's kind of tucked in between one and three and that'll come after that construction is wrapping up on 1 in 3 as well.

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>> well that's one of the questions I'm sure everybody's getting and I know I get it up .

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Paramount number one when's bucky's coming?

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Keep telling them 2028.

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That's what I've been told.

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And then when those ideas are going to be completed then it all kind of fits together because once you close 27 you got to cut that new road into the new interchange.

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But you know it is oh go ahead.

426
00:45:55,123 --> 00:45:59,728
>> I think bucky's also is contingent upon that interchange being done.

427
00:45:59,728 --> 00:46:02,897
They can't start until that interchange gets done.

428
00:46:02,897 --> 00:46:03,980
>> so be simultaneous.

429
00:46:03,631 --> 00:46:03,865
Yeah.

430
00:46:03,865 --> 00:46:22,817
We don't have and that's out of our I would I would start telling people 29 that way if it's earlier they think you're a hero I think we're going to be at the tail end 35 of 20 we did coordinate closely with dot as well I understand that they're

431
00:46:22,817 --> 00:46:26,955
going to start breaking ground within the next week or two at that interchange.

432
00:46:26,955 --> 00:46:34,295
So the interchange work is actually going to be one of the early out components of that project.

433
00:46:34,295 --> 00:46:49,611
They identified that in their schedule as needing to be completed at the onset for the new florida and the interchange is funded they to have that interchange funded and the 49th street extension that's he bond discussion that we're going to

434
00:46:49,611 --> 00:46:56,317
have to have to make that all fall into place.

435
00:46:56,317 --> 00:46:56,785
>> excellent.

436
00:46:56,785 --> 00:47:11,633
Sir, I did speak with secretary tyler told me in mid-march that turn lane on 44 will be done and hopefully he's going to help me not to let the contractor linger too long after that to get the rest of it cleaned up.

437
00:47:11,633 --> 00:47:14,235
So that's our we're working on that as well.

438
00:47:14,235 --> 00:47:18,600
>> so everybody knows anything else stephen.

439
00:47:18,172 --> 00:47:22,100
All right, commissioners, any other questions for stephen?

440
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:22,710
Thank you so much.

441
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:25,880
Christopher stephen as always, like everybody.

442
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,881
>> are we have committee items.

443
00:47:26,881 --> 00:47:28,750
Mr.

444
00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:29,517
Clerk thank ou, mr.

445
00:47:29,517 --> 00:47:29,751
Chair.

446
00:47:29,751 --> 00:47:31,886
>> yes, we have a handful of them today.

447
00:47:31,886 --> 00:47:45,566
First is item 10.1 which was a request to appoint one member to serve on the code enforcement board for the remainder of a full unexpired term ending august 26th or a new alternate term ending february 29th.

448
00:47:45,566 --> 00:47:45,667
Mr.

449
00:47:45,667 --> 00:47:54,242
David francis received the appropriate votes to serve for the full term expiring august 26th so moved.

450
00:47:54,242 --> 00:48:00,148
>> I have a motion by commissioner bryant second by commissioner curry all those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passes unanimously.

451
00:48:00,148 --> 00:48:12,560
>> item 10.2 is a request to reappoint one full member to the hills of ocala to you for recreation advisory council for a new term ending february 2030 and mr.

452
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:23,370
Victor m for rare jr received the appropriate votes so moved our motion by commissioner bryant second by cmmissioner mcclain all those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passes unanimously.

453
00:48:23,204 --> 00:48:37,752
>> item ten point three is a request for ratification of commissioner ron livesey or livesey as the city of belleview representative on the tourist development council so moved by motion y commissioner ryan, second by commissioner mcclain all

454
00:48:37,752 --> 00:48:40,880
those in favor signify by saying any opposed that passes unanimously.

455
00:48:40,722 --> 00:48:52,700
>> item 10.4 is a request for ratification of councilmember barry mansfield as the city of ocala representative on the tdc so moved back I'm most american mr.

456
00:48:52,203 --> 00:48:55,730
Bryant second by commissioner curry.

457
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:56,740
I think we should mess with him and send him a letter.

458
00:48:56,441 --> 00:48:59,440
All those in favor signify by saying I.

459
00:48:59,344 --> 00:49:01,980
>> I opposed that passes unanimously.

460
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:09,888
Item 10.5 is a equest to appoint two collector members to the tourist development council for individual new terms ending february 2030.

461
00:49:09,888 --> 00:49:17,762
Douglas cone and rich larkin received the appropriate votes so moved I have a motion mr.

462
00:49:17,762 --> 00:49:24,502
Stone the second commissioner mcclain all those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passed unanimously.

463
00:49:24,502 --> 00:49:32,510
Finally, item 10.6 is a request to appoint two non ollector members to the tdc for individual new terms ending february 2030 mr.

464
00:49:32,510 --> 00:49:33,144
Robert walker and mr.

465
00:49:33,144 --> 00:49:39,840
Christopher fernandez as received the appropriate votes so moved by commissioner o'brien second by mr.

466
00:49:39,784 --> 00:49:40,180
Mcclain.

467
00:49:40,180 --> 00:49:46,570
All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passed unanimously.

468
00:49:46,391 --> 00:49:46,858
>> all right.

469
00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:47,125
Thank you mr.

470
00:49:47,125 --> 00:49:47,492
Clerk.

471
00:49:47,492 --> 00:49:49,327
Appreciate it.

472
00:49:49,327 --> 00:50:01,206
Notation for action commissioners we are scheduling a workshop with the trust for public land regarding the actually in regarding the thing we did today in regards to the support letter that will be march 3rd at 2 p.m.

473
00:50:01,206 --> 00:50:01,439
Any.

474
00:50:01,439 --> 00:50:08,546
>> good so moved all right o move by commissioner bryant second by commissioner stone all those in favor signify by saying I.

475
00:50:08,546 --> 00:50:12,817
I opposed that passes unanimously we're going to move on to general public comments.

476
00:50:12,817 --> 00:50:20,910
I don't have anyone signed up so would anyone like to speak on any item?

477
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:20,910
Oh no.

478
00:50:20,525 --> 00:50:24,950
Imean I'm calling so anybody know?

479
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:24,950
All right.

480
00:50:24,496 --> 00:50:25,597
We'll bring it back to the board.

481
00:50:25,597 --> 00:50:27,565
Commissioner curry?

482
00:50:27,565 --> 00:50:27,932
>> no.

483
00:50:27,932 --> 00:50:28,233
Good.

484
00:50:28,233 --> 00:50:28,466
Good.

485
00:50:28,466 --> 00:50:28,566
Mr.

486
00:50:28,566 --> 00:50:31,503
Stone if.

487
00:50:31,503 --> 00:50:32,170
>> any banners?

488
00:50:32,170 --> 00:50:32,437
Yeah.

489
00:50:32,437 --> 00:50:36,741
I'll just remind everyone that we have the rent for the springs coming up in the end of february 28th.

490
00:50:36,741 --> 00:50:40,780
That'll take place a beautiful silver spring state park.

491
00:50:40,445 --> 00:50:44,149
But many old come out and join us that day.

492
00:50:44,149 --> 00:50:47,180
>> thank you, mr.

493
00:50:47,180 --> 00:50:47,850
Bryant.

494
00:50:47,252 --> 00:50:47,619
I'm good.

495
00:50:47,619 --> 00:50:48,530
Oh, all right.

496
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:50,822
Let me go quick.

497
00:50:50,822 --> 00:50:50,989
Mr.

498
00:50:50,989 --> 00:50:51,560
Mcclain.

499
00:50:51,289 --> 00:50:51,656
Ribbons today.

500
00:50:51,656 --> 00:50:53,758
No ribbons and I'm great.

501
00:50:53,758 --> 00:50:55,930
What a great day in marion county.

502
00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:55,894
942 that's pretty darn good.

503
00:50:55,894 --> 00:50:59,640
I will be in recess till this afternoon.

504
00:50:59,297 --> 00:50:59,664
>> thank you, mr.

505
00:50:59,664 --> 00:50:59,898
Chair.

506
00:50:59,898 --> 00:51:02,670
Are we doing sierra at 154?

507
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:03,100
>> are we?

508
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:48,860
Well, we're this meeting is in recess right.

509
00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:49,540
All right, ladies and gentlemen, have a seat.

510
00:51:49,287 --> 00:51:52,624
Get comfortable.

511
00:51:52,624 --> 00:51:53,910
I was going to go to the bathroom.

512
00:51:53,691 --> 00:51:54,959
Do you want.

513
00:51:54,959 --> 00:51:55,827
Yeah, I did.

514
00:51:55,827 --> 00:52:06,400
>> and you know, welcome to our continuation of our board of county commissioners meeting into our zoning portion of your please again, I know you guys are already practiced up but please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

515
00:52:06,171 --> 00:52:10,175
>> make it sound good.

516
00:52:10,175 --> 00:52:19,217
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands.

517
00:52:19,217 --> 00:52:26,124
Why wasting your time and liberty and justice for a man that don't get you excited?

518
00:52:26,124 --> 00:52:30,280
I don't know what will madam clerk call the roll chairman zalak vice chairman mcclain.

519
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,831
Commissioner curry.

520
00:52:32,831 --> 00:52:35,734
>> commissioner bryant commissioner so I'm here.

521
00:52:35,734 --> 00:52:36,334
All right.

522
00:52:36,334 --> 00:52:36,768
>> thank you.

523
00:52:36,768 --> 00:52:46,665
And proof of publication I have proof of publication entitled notice of public hearing by marion county board of county commissioners to consider adoption of an ordinance published on the publicly accessible website marion f l.org/legal notices

524
00:52:46,665 --> 00:52:47,990
on february 2nd, 2026.

525
00:52:47,432 --> 00:52:51,203
>> thank you so much.

526
00:52:51,203 --> 00:52:52,700
All right ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our zoning.

527
00:52:52,537 --> 00:52:59,378
This does work a little bit differently than our our normal legislative meetings so we're going to get it kicked off with our waiver requests.

528
00:52:59,378 --> 00:53:02,881
These are waivers for the land development code.

529
00:53:02,881 --> 00:53:05,751
After that we're going to go into our consent agenda and then.

530
00:53:05,751 --> 00:53:13,425
As I'm sure most of you are here, we've got a couple items for individual consideration I'm going to pass it over to our county attorney.

531
00:53:13,425 --> 00:53:17,329
He's going to talk to you and give you a super bowl analogy.

532
00:53:17,329 --> 00:53:20,599
Riveting information.

533
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:28,540
Also make sure that you take your phone and your ipad and any other thing that beeps vibrate or whatever and make sure it's on silent.

534
00:53:28,540 --> 00:53:35,547
If you don't have it on silent, you're going to come up here because the price will be right and you're going to share your conversation with the rest of us.

535
00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:36,147
Otherwise.

536
00:53:36,147 --> 00:53:40,618
Put them on silent and if you have a call please take it out into the corridor, wait for the door to close.

537
00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:44,189
Otherwise we hear all of your conversations as these meetings go on.

538
00:53:44,189 --> 00:53:51,529
We're going to have a great vibrant discourse together.

539
00:53:51,529 --> 00:53:56,401
Everybody's opinion actually matters and we're here to listen to all of those opinions as your commissioners.

540
00:53:56,401 --> 00:54:13,585
What we will not do is allow if you come up to the podium to turn around and point at someone, accuse someone you are more than welcome to come give your opinion to the county commissioners you are not welcome to attack people in the audience.

541
00:54:13,585 --> 00:54:18,220
Okay so we're going to have a great discourse but we're going to have a civil discourse if you don't.

542
00:54:18,220 --> 00:54:22,193
These fine officers in the back will escort you out.

543
00:54:22,193 --> 00:54:22,627
Okay with that, mr.

544
00:54:22,627 --> 00:54:29,734
Attorney, if you will please give everybody the information they need and swear everybody that will be speaking in.

545
00:54:29,734 --> 00:54:30,101
>> okay.

546
00:54:30,101 --> 00:54:30,402
Thank you, mr.

547
00:54:30,402 --> 00:54:30,769
Chair.

548
00:54:30,769 --> 00:54:37,409
So as the chair said, the first three items will be the development review committee request.

549
00:54:37,409 --> 00:54:41,513
I don't speak any of you except the property owners are here for those items.

550
00:54:41,513 --> 00:54:44,849
They usually go pretty quickly .

551
00:54:44,849 --> 00:54:52,924
We have two items on consent the consent agenda is tems as to which before today we have not received any letters of objection.

552
00:54:52,924 --> 00:54:56,828
In a moment.

553
00:54:56,828 --> 00:54:57,962
When I'm finished with my little talk here.

554
00:54:57,962 --> 00:55:12,844
The grow services irector will read off the two items on consent if you're here today and do have an objection and you haven't previously had an opportunity to voice that when he reads the items off.

555
00:55:12,844 --> 00:55:23,588
Raise your hand and we will move those items either one of them on to the next category which is the category of items for individual consideration.

556
00:55:23,588 --> 00:55:33,865
If nobody has any objection or question about the two items on consent, the board will make a single motion at and approve both of those at one time.

557
00:55:33,865 --> 00:55:39,480
>> even if you just have a question about something on consent, if you just have a question raise your hand.

558
00:55:39,248 --> 00:55:45,287
We'll try to address that question right away and see if that resolves your issue.

559
00:55:45,287 --> 00:56:00,269
Then we get into the item 15.3 which is the items that almost all of you are here for and these are the items for individual consideration and for the land use law.

560
00:56:00,269 --> 00:56:04,940
We have two main categories of activities that the board of county commissioners deals with.

561
00:56:04,940 --> 00:56:23,158
The most important category is comprehensive land use planning state of florida and florida courts have called the comprehensive plan the land use constitution for the state of florida when the board is dealing with comprehensive plan issues

562
00:56:23,158 --> 00:56:32,670
they are acting in a legislative policymaking function and they have broad discretion in the decisions they can make about that.

563
00:56:32,301 --> 00:56:47,549
The chairman indicated that we're where you have a forum where you can express a your opinions and actually the opinions are more relevant when we're dealing with policymaking functions.

564
00:56:47,549 --> 00:56:51,190
In contrast to that.

565
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:51,286
we're dealing with policymaking functions. In contrast to that.-

566
00:56:51,286 --> 00:56:51,453
we're dealing with policymaking functions. As contrast to that.-

567
00:56:51,453 --> 00:56:51,553
we're dealing with policymaking functions. As it trast to that.-

568
00:56:51,553 --> 00:56:51,653
we're dealing with policymaking functions. As it turns to that.-

569
00:56:51,653 --> 00:56:51,754
we're dealing with policymaking functions. As it turns out hat.-

570
00:56:51,754 --> 00:56:58,360
we're dealing with policymaking functions. As it turns out today on this particular agenda, none of the items here today are comprehensive plan amendments.

571
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:17,179
All of the items are what we call quasi judicial proceedings and that means they're either rezonings or special use permits and the rezoning include applications for a planned unit development which is a specific type of rezoning .

572
00:57:17,179 --> 00:57:28,157
The issue for special use permits and planning developments is there are three three criteria that are most important.

573
00:57:28,157 --> 00:57:39,401
Number one, all of these applications have to be consistent with the future land use map in our comprehensive plan.

574
00:57:39,401 --> 00:57:54,349
For instance, if someone was coming in for some kind of intense commercial development in a rezoning but he comprehensive plan for that property said it was for agricultural or rural property it would be inconsistent and would not be allowed.

575
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:58,153
I don't think we have that situation here today.

576
00:57:58,153 --> 00:58:02,570
So the first item is is the application consistent with the cob plan?

577
00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:20,750
Second item is is the item in the public interest and now this is an area where the board really engages in quite a bit of balancing of different interests between the interests of the public at large.

578
00:58:20,609 --> 00:58:31,220
Obviously the board is elected by the electors f marion county so the board has to consider the interests of the public at large.

579
00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:47,803
But at the same time the board also has to balance the interest and concerns of the public at large with the property rights of the property owner and or developer who is making the application and property rights have constitutional protections

580
00:58:47,803 --> 00:58:52,410
in in america and in the state of oregon.

581
00:58:52,410 --> 00:59:02,818
And so the board is always concerned about both of those factors when balancing considerations of whether something is or is not in the public interest.

582
00:59:02,818 --> 00:59:10,759
And then finally we have the issue of whether or not the application is compatible with the surrounding property.

583
00:59:10,759 --> 00:59:30,345
>> the unique thing about special use permits and planning developments as opposed to a regular rezoning is that both the special use permit and the planning unit developments allow the board to impose certain specific conditions on that particular

584
00:59:30,345 --> 00:59:30,779
project.

585
00:59:30,779 --> 00:59:49,665
One of the most important goals of those conditions is to provide for enhancing the compatibility of the application with the surrounding property and when the application comes up the applicant or our staff will read out the conditions that

586
00:59:49,665 --> 00:59:53,369
are recommended if the board is going to approve that item.

587
00:59:53,369 --> 01:00:02,344
If you are here not upporting the item but if you're opposed to it listen carefully to the conditions that are being recommended.

588
01:00:02,344 --> 01:00:20,863
If there's some reason that you believe some additional condition or more stringent conditions should be imposed imposed as part of your statement to the board, you're free to recommend omething in addition to what staff has already listed in

589
01:00:20,863 --> 01:00:39,348
the application materials and the board has the discretion to evaluate that when it comes to their deliberation the order of presentation is that generally speaking the staff will introduce the item then we will invite the applicant up to provide

590
01:00:39,348 --> 01:00:46,822
more specific information about why they're asking for what they're asking for, what the project will entail and so forth.

591
01:00:46,822 --> 01:01:05,708
After we finish the staff presents ation and the individual applicant's presentation then we open the hearing up to comments from the public and we have two podiums and particularly with an enthusiastic crowd like we have today we encourage

592
01:01:05,708 --> 01:01:13,816
people that want to speak to utilize both of these podiums and so what does that mean?

593
01:01:13,816 --> 01:01:28,642
We recommend that a couple of people kind of line up on the wall not candy but a couple of people and kind of wait your turn behind the podium so that as soon as someone speaks at this podium we usually go to that one but then you'll be moving

594
01:01:28,642 --> 01:01:36,160
up to this podium so that you can be ready to speak so that we can keep the proceedings moving along steadily.

595
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:52,990
>> the chair indicated that I would make some reference to the super bowl and many of you have heard that before about four or the people speaking either in favor or against the application.

596
01:01:52,332 --> 01:01:55,135
You have a two minute time limit.

597
01:01:55,135 --> 01:02:03,100
Some people may think well that's that doesn't sound fair because we do allow the applicant to pend more time.

598
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:03,711
>> of course the applicant.

599
01:02:03,711 --> 01:02:04,111
All right.

600
01:02:04,111 --> 01:02:04,545
Come on down.

601
01:02:04,545 --> 01:02:05,145
Spend a lot more money.

602
01:02:05,145 --> 01:02:10,417
We're bringing to apply for the application.

603
01:02:10,417 --> 01:02:10,984
No, no takers.

604
01:02:10,984 --> 01:02:28,635
The super bowl silence the super bowl analogy is that I think in the most recent super bowl the advertisements or a 32nd ad were going like $7 million for a 32nd ad and somehow they get their point across in 30s.

605
01:02:28,635 --> 01:02:35,309
So I'm sure if you work your real hard you can get your point across in two minutes.

606
01:02:35,309 --> 01:02:53,260
The main point all kidding aside is make sure you you get your most important point out first whatever it is and it should be factual information not not opinion in the sense of well we have 50 people here and we're all against this that kind

607
01:02:53,260 --> 01:03:00,901
of opinion legally is not something the board can rely on.

608
01:03:00,901 --> 01:03:05,390
The board has o make its decision based on what the courts call competent substantial evidence.

609
01:03:05,339 --> 01:03:08,800
That's fact based evidence.

610
01:03:08,342 --> 01:03:24,580
If you have specific concerns about traffic or you know, environmental issues or whatever it might be but it shouldn't just be that I don't like it if you're here in opposition to one of these applications and also on that point just like if

611
01:03:24,580 --> 01:03:32,566
we were in a court of law downtown generally speaking the courts don't allow what they call repetitive evidence.

612
01:03:32,566 --> 01:03:38,839
They don't allow ten people to say the same testimony over and over again.

613
01:03:38,839 --> 01:03:49,917
So if you're here and someone in front of you has already spoken the same concerns you have, there is no reason to get up and say the same thing again .

614
01:03:49,917 --> 01:03:57,758
I'm not trying to discourage anyone who wants to speak from saying that but but again try to bring new information to the board.

615
01:03:57,758 --> 01:04:09,370
If somebody as already said something you have in mind getting back to the final item I indicated that the board's decision has to be based on competence substantial evidence.

616
01:04:09,370 --> 01:04:14,410
And so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and everyone who even thinks you

617
01:04:14,410 --> 01:04:14,410
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and everyone who even thinks you-

618
01:04:14,143 --> 01:04:14,243
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may yone who even thinks you-

619
01:04:14,243 --> 01:04:16,712
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may speak ho even thinks you-

620
01:04:16,712 --> 01:04:16,912
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may speak today n thinks you-

621
01:04:16,912 --> 01:04:17,146
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may speak today stand ks you-

622
01:04:17,146 --> 01:04:17,346
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may speak today stand up you-

623
01:04:17,346 --> 01:04:24,353
and so with that in mind, I'm going to ask anyone and may speak today stand up and- I'm going to in mass place you all under oath so that we can get the oath out of the way at one time.

624
01:04:24,353 --> 01:04:46,740
>> and if you will raise your right hand and repeat after me I solemnly swear or affirm the testimony I will give today will be the truth and nothing but the truth under penalty of all.

625
01:04:46,441 --> 01:04:46,875
>> thank you.

626
01:04:46,875 --> 01:04:47,800
Be seated.

627
01:04:47,242 --> 01:04:47,376
Mr.

628
01:04:47,376 --> 01:04:49,444
Chair.

629
01:04:49,444 --> 01:04:50,112
Thank you, sir.

630
01:04:50,112 --> 01:04:50,579
>> all right.

631
01:04:50,579 --> 01:04:53,615
First up, we have a couple of waivers.

632
01:04:53,615 --> 01:04:54,383
>> want to tackle those first?

633
01:04:54,383 --> 01:04:56,170
So if I have one 1 in 5.

634
01:04:56,170 --> 01:04:56,518
>> one two.

635
01:04:56,518 --> 01:04:56,785
Sir.

636
01:04:56,785 --> 01:04:59,988
Good afternoon, commissioners.

637
01:04:59,988 --> 01:05:01,890
Cuck varian, director of group services.

638
01:05:01,890 --> 01:05:04,590
I'm going to get us started today with item 15.1.

639
01:05:04,590 --> 01:05:22,411
Point one as noted that was a that is a buffer waiver request and if we could pull up the screens this was a buffer waiver request that was denied by the drc january 5th, 2026 and they're appealing the drc decision just to get us oriented a

640
01:05:22,411 --> 01:05:25,781
ittle bit.

641
01:05:25,781 --> 01:05:29,551
This kind of pinkish box is the location.

642
01:05:29,551 --> 01:05:57,212
This is like we're high school so it's a little south of there of southeast mary camp and right next door to the silver springs shores vfw it is does have a commercial land use and it does have a two zoning sorry it's not one to here we go all

643
01:05:57,212 --> 01:05:57,512
right.

644
01:05:57,512 --> 01:06:04,453
Looking at the zoning and the buffer requirements, it does this is sorry this is the subject property aerial view.

645
01:06:04,453 --> 01:06:22,371
So it is commercial zone to eg to the east which requires a type d buffer by the code that's 15ft wide and with a six foot wall to the south is residential zoning.

646
01:06:22,371 --> 01:06:29,440
So commercial to residential requires a b-type buffer which is a 20 foot wide landscaping and a six foot wall.

647
01:06:29,411 --> 01:06:39,855
They are requesting to waive the wall requirement completely so not been an offense or anything but nstead provide an enhanced buffer.

648
01:06:39,855 --> 01:06:51,133
There is some visuals of that drc just to be brief knowing the agenda we did recommend to do a precast masonry wall we did not see any visuals at that time.

649
01:06:51,133 --> 01:07:02,377
One of the concerns from staff and this is their site plan they are doing a retail store I believe it's going to be a dollar general store.

650
01:07:02,377 --> 01:07:06,148
One of the concerns from staff is with enhanced buffers.

651
01:07:06,148 --> 01:07:18,600
They'll look good initially but a lot of times especially with some of these dollar generals we've had a number of code cases where for whatever reason if they turn off the water the vegetation dies off.

652
01:07:18,339 --> 01:07:25,647
So from a staff perspective our concern would be the long term maintenance of the enhanced buffer was good.

653
01:07:25,647 --> 01:07:34,289
This is their landscape plan and that's a picture of their enhanced buffer applicant here no yes.

654
01:07:34,289 --> 01:07:34,923
Okay.

655
01:07:34,923 --> 01:07:49,170
>> yes I'm on a first in the back

656
01:07:49,170 --> 01:07:49,571
.

657
01:07:49,571 --> 01:07:50,872
>> I need our name and address for the record.

658
01:07:50,872 --> 01:07:57,912
My name is lindsey klein.

659
01:07:57,912 --> 01:07:59,848
Address james 4656 ellis park avenue charleston, south carolina.

660
01:07:59,848 --> 01:08:02,984
>> okay.

661
01:08:02,984 --> 01:08:08,556
And your six, five six also.

662
01:08:08,556 --> 01:08:09,570
Okay.

663
01:08:09,570 --> 01:08:10,580
Okay with that madam clerk okay.

664
01:08:10,580 --> 01:08:19,934
Thank you, bn I mean we kind of just wanted to be able to dive into this a little bit more.

665
01:08:19,934 --> 01:08:30,945
The drc comments that we got all recommended approval we didn't receive any comments from them besides presenting a rendering for you all here.

666
01:08:30,945 --> 01:08:46,940
>> so that's kind of what we're here to do and I believe drc denied your request correct and then they pushed it to here but we didn't receive any comments besides drc or recommended approval so that's where we were unsure they didn't recommend

667
01:08:46,795 --> 01:09:04,579
approval so it was so drc with these kinds of requests for the board's direction with these walls we deny it and then will this I think what she's referring to is staff like maybe susan hand I'm guessing in her review recommended approval from

668
01:09:04,579 --> 01:09:09,500
a a landscape architect perspective.

669
01:09:09,217 --> 01:09:12,353
>> okay.

670
01:09:12,353 --> 01:09:16,958
Anyway, just so you're clear your request got denied and sent us to make the decision.

671
01:09:16,958 --> 01:09:17,580
>> okay.

672
01:09:17,358 --> 01:09:17,559
Okay.

673
01:09:17,559 --> 01:09:27,369
I was just we didn't receive like specific comments is all I'm saying about what we could have changed to get this to be approved.

674
01:09:27,369 --> 01:09:44,452
But basically the point is to keep the esthetic of this area the same and ot include a six foot wall on both sides where we feel hat the landscape and agricultural feel of this area is more prevalent than a six foot wall.

675
01:09:44,452 --> 01:09:45,520
But what are you going to do with that?

676
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,423
So just for curiosity, what are you going to do with the store to make it fit into this community?

677
01:09:48,423 --> 01:09:55,163
>> I mean I feel like the store itself fits in the community with the way that it is built.

678
01:09:55,163 --> 01:09:59,503
I mean it's really it's it serves the community in the neighborhood.

679
01:09:59,503 --> 01:10:00,404
That's the whole intention of it.

680
01:10:00,404 --> 01:10:09,813
But I think that the landscaping here would look reduces the amount of concrete in the area at least I understand.

681
01:10:09,813 --> 01:10:13,484
Anything else?

682
01:10:13,484 --> 01:10:13,851
>> okay.

683
01:10:13,851 --> 01:10:17,621
We'll bring it back to the board commissioners.

684
01:10:17,621 --> 01:10:18,122
>> any questions?

685
01:10:18,122 --> 01:10:18,255
Mr.

686
01:10:18,255 --> 01:10:21,910
Chair, I'm going to make a motion for denial.

687
01:10:21,759 --> 01:10:25,696
We have we have standards in place for a reason.

688
01:10:25,696 --> 01:10:26,960
You've got residential to the south.

689
01:10:26,697 --> 01:10:29,433
You've got agricultural to the east.

690
01:10:29,433 --> 01:10:33,300
We put those standards in place to protect hose neighbors.

691
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:41,879
When you come in your what you're oing to do the business you're going to put there is going to be a disruption to that residential neighbor to the south of you.

692
01:10:41,879 --> 01:10:45,349
And so we have these standards in place for that reason.

693
01:10:45,349 --> 01:10:51,288
So with that I recommend and I'll have a motion by commissioner bryant okay.

694
01:10:51,288 --> 01:10:54,240
>> second by commissioner curry all those in favor of kind of comment?

695
01:10:54,240 --> 01:11:06,700
Sure commissioners, I don't I appreciate what walls do as far as buffers and protecting neighbors and things like that but I hate putting up concrete in the middle of nowhere especially six foot high concrete all over the place.

696
01:11:06,537 --> 01:11:17,848
I felt like there was another way we could have gotten here with a with a maybe a fence or something else that was that's better than just throwing up concrete in the middle of summer springs when there's nothing else on that.

697
01:11:17,848 --> 01:11:21,285
>> it's not silver springs shores yeah.

698
01:11:21,285 --> 01:11:29,930
On that silver spring shores when there's nothing else on mary camp that has these walls if it's if it is a dollar general there's another dollar general right down the road that doesn't have that that doesn't have this either.

699
01:11:29,326 --> 01:11:33,970
>> so I'm against throwing up concrete all over the place right now but it's there with all due respect, I understand no worries.

700
01:11:33,731 --> 01:11:36,166
But it's their job to give us an alternative plan.

701
01:11:36,166 --> 01:11:39,303
They provided none except more trees, right?

702
01:11:39,303 --> 01:11:42,306
I mean o we've done this all the time.

703
01:11:42,306 --> 01:11:54,818
The commissioner where we asked the person to do something else so well but that's the problem is we're not holding people to the standards that we've set and in 20 years as that area develops and it will because there's going to be more development

704
01:11:54,818 --> 01:12:05,696
in there, you're going to see more waivers and then you're going to end up with people who have these businesses abutting their residential properties and they have no protection from the business activity that's going on in those properties

705
01:12:05,696 --> 01:12:10,100
and that wall is there for sound abatement for vehicles coming in and out.

706
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:17,775
I mean if you look at the way that this residential property abuts that commercial property you're going to have headlights coming right into it.

707
01:12:17,775 --> 01:12:25,820
And so I think as a protection to the person that's already there, we owe them that to stick to the standards we put in place.

708
01:12:25,682 --> 01:12:33,900
>> and I and I've been against those standards as I know because you don't like that because I think there's a better way we can do this with vegetation or an opaque fence or something else that's not okay.

709
01:12:33,624 --> 01:12:40,831
>> fences are terrible and they look terrible after so long and they fall down in vegetation unless it's well taken care of.

710
01:12:40,831 --> 01:12:51,560
It does not provide the protection for the residents fom the business going in there and that's one of the things we need to work on in our code is to have a little bit of flexibility but then also have long term maintenance of landscaping because

711
01:12:51,523 --> 01:12:52,570
that's what happens, right?

712
01:12:52,290 --> 01:13:03,168
Is that they put it in and they plant it and then they don't irrigate it or they get in there and then they shut off the irrigation and the fertilizer and they don't take care of it for the first five years and then all of a sudden I mean no

713
01:13:03,168 --> 01:13:12,677
disrespect but there's $3 general on my way home and they all put them all in and almost all of the vegetation is is is destroyed.

714
01:13:12,677 --> 01:13:17,480
The one closest to my house the opaque fence is laying on its side.

715
01:13:17,282 --> 01:13:32,263
So yeah, I'm not in favor of anyway so e have a motion by commissioner bryant denial and seconded by commissioner curry all those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passes unanimous I'm sorry that passes 4 to 1 with commissioner

716
01:13:32,263 --> 01:13:34,699
mcclain dissenting yes or sorry about that.

717
01:13:34,699 --> 01:13:35,133
>> all right.

718
01:13:35,133 --> 01:13:35,700
415 one two.

719
01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:38,236
Thank you mr.

720
01:13:38,236 --> 01:13:38,636
Chair.

721
01:13:38,636 --> 01:13:46,578
>> could I just verify a precast wall though is also available for just making sure that they understood that?

722
01:13:46,578 --> 01:13:46,811
Yep.

723
01:13:46,811 --> 01:13:50,480
Our staff can give you those indications as well.

724
01:13:50,248 --> 01:13:55,860
All right, tony, I want to put in one two.

725
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:55,860
>> sorry.

726
01:13:55,487 --> 01:13:55,854
Good afternoon, mr.

727
01:13:55,854 --> 01:13:56,287
Chair.

728
01:13:56,287 --> 01:13:58,323
Commissioners, my name is tony cunningham.

729
01:13:58,323 --> 01:14:01,593
I serve in the role as a utility director here in marion county.

730
01:14:01,593 --> 01:14:05,530
We had a project that came before the development review committee on december 15th.

731
01:14:05,530 --> 01:14:26,985
That project was denied or the waiver request for that project was denied and so they appealed that and we're here today to have a further discussion on that project 15.12 and 15.13 are both are ones water and one sewer.

732
01:14:26,985 --> 01:14:28,530
>> so I'm going to kind of talk about them together.

733
01:14:28,486 --> 01:14:28,887
Okay, good.

734
01:14:28,887 --> 01:14:30,755
We're going to take them up to you.

735
01:14:30,755 --> 01:14:31,220
>> all right.

736
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:42,167
How do you want to go so this project is located in I'll zoom out in my in my head in words so you can see it not not on the map itself.

737
01:14:42,167 --> 01:14:50,750
So this project is located north of ocala south of 20 six about midway between and the midway between I-75 and 441.

738
01:14:50,442 --> 01:15:01,586
It's in the urban growth boundary but it's in an area where we don't have our utilities water and sewer utilities located city of ocala has utilities that are further south.

739
01:15:01,586 --> 01:15:02,870
>> they're not near it as well.

740
01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:12,664
So typically I come before you and there's usually a request because of connection distance this is not about connection distance so there they are outside of connection distance.

741
01:15:12,664 --> 01:15:25,430
What our code says is if you have a project that's like a multi family project or a commercial project that's outside of connection distance then they're required to construct a decentralized water system, a ecentralized wastewater system package

742
01:15:25,343 --> 01:15:28,179
plants package plants.

743
01:15:28,179 --> 01:15:39,791
The waiver is a request to a waiver from that so the applicant in lieu of that and the applicants here or the representative is here help come up in a second because we've met several times since the since the drc meeting on december 17th.

744
01:15:39,791 --> 01:15:42,627
So they're looking for a waiver from that.

745
01:15:42,627 --> 01:15:45,133
It's a it's a rather small site.

746
01:15:45,133 --> 01:15:49,710
They're trying to put six buildings which consist of 12 duplexes on that site.

747
01:15:49,710 --> 01:16:02,751
And so I think what his what he'll talk about I won't put words in his model let him do his thing but we'll be that there's not enough room and there's a quite an expense to putting those package plants tony from from our notes here it says

748
01:16:02,751 --> 01:16:19,434
12 duplex units is that like 12 buildings or 12 unix buildings with 12 you okay thank you and so so again his waiver request is from that from our perspective what we have to think about is several things.

749
01:16:19,434 --> 01:16:25,140
So one is the desire in the future if utilities are in this area for them to connect to the central are centralized utilities.

750
01:16:25,140 --> 01:16:28,760
We don't have any plans right now.

751
01:16:28,343 --> 01:16:35,830
There aren't any developments that are about to extend the bunch of water and sewer in the area so we don't know the timing of that in the future.

752
01:16:35,717 --> 01:16:46,895
And the other thing we have to think about is just our our natural resources of water and the impacts of putting in non decentralized or centralized water or sewer in the area.

753
01:16:46,895 --> 01:16:58,740
And so from both of those reasons my recommendation would be to continue to enforce our code and have what's in the code in there and I'm here to go into more detail and answer questions as mr.

754
01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:03,450
Ratcliffe I think will represent the applicant and provide some perspective as well.

755
01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:09,751
>> let me just verify because you know we deal with this somewhat but not all he time as more of the connection issue.

756
01:17:09,751 --> 01:17:22,164
So if they were to put in a water we'd have one central connection at least going into the project that in the future some utility connect to same thing on the sewer side right you have one connection that you could take a package plant offline.

757
01:17:22,164 --> 01:17:24,660
Yes.

758
01:17:24,660 --> 01:17:28,103
Otherwise you get six different units if you do it the other way possibly.

759
01:17:28,103 --> 01:17:32,740
What else is the benefit of the package plant that we need to be aware of?

760
01:17:32,740 --> 01:17:43,752
>> the other benefits would be just more requirements are monitoring requirements they're meeting more as opposed to just a well or a septic tank or meeting certain monitoring requirements and the quality because you're providing you're not

761
01:17:43,752 --> 01:17:48,490
just doing a single family home with a well, you're providing it to a development units and different owners.

762
01:17:48,490 --> 01:18:06,700
So I think it's those those monitoring requirements on a wastewater side they'd have to treat to a higher level to meet I think it's ten I think it'll be ten parts per million would be the package plant for the treat the 90% you could roughly

763
01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:13,982
say around 90% yeah but you have to treat to limit that then you are then sampling and making sure you're below going into the future.

764
01:18:13,982 --> 01:18:14,490
>> all right.

765
01:18:14,416 --> 01:18:17,452
Any other questions for staff commissioners?

766
01:18:17,452 --> 01:18:17,853
All right, mr.

767
01:18:17,853 --> 01:18:20,255
Ratcliffe.

768
01:18:20,255 --> 01:18:20,856
Good afternoon.

769
01:18:20,856 --> 01:18:28,797
>> afternoon commissioners mike radcliffe radcliffe engineering 2611 outh east lake weir avenue ocala.

770
01:18:28,797 --> 01:18:35,850
>> I would actually echo what tony has said so far as far as being correct in actual factual.

771
01:18:35,719 --> 01:18:46,960
We have met several times trying to figure out how to a solution to this project because it just seems to fall into all the cracks regulatory and size.

772
01:18:46,730 --> 01:18:49,633
It is a very small low flow project.

773
01:18:49,633 --> 01:19:06,116
The six duplexes total of 12 units I did submit and I intended or assumed that it would be part of the submittal package but it as not in the packet.

774
01:19:06,116 --> 01:19:10,788
Thank you.

775
01:19:10,788 --> 01:19:15,590
>> so in showing how the site the site lays out it is a it is a small site.

776
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:29,206
So one of the difficulties of a decentralized system is that dep regulates that they usually regulated it and you put this on hold on one second mr.

777
01:19:29,206 --> 01:19:32,760
Ratcliffe we just need to make sure that everybody gets to see the same thing.

778
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:32,760
Sure.

779
01:19:32,676 --> 01:19:34,278
>> tony can you make sure this gets on the screen?

780
01:19:34,278 --> 01:19:47,755
Give us one moment, sir

781
01:19:52,396 --> 01:19:52,796
.

782
01:19:52,796 --> 01:19:53,197
>> perfect.

783
01:19:53,197 --> 01:19:53,530
Go ahead.

784
01:19:53,530 --> 01:19:56,700
A very fine.

785
01:19:56,700 --> 01:20:07,144
So the connection distance where is required 30 840ft where 7000 you may see 10,000 as one number on my particular plan.

786
01:20:07,144 --> 01:20:17,521
But this was created before the latest site distance was uploaded by him in marion county utilities which was around 7000 both for water and sewer.

787
01:20:17,521 --> 01:20:27,831
>> but those numbers are exorbitant half $1 million for water and 700,000 for sewer for 12 duplex units is quite

788
01:20:27,831 --> 01:20:28,165
exorbitant half $1 million for water and 700,000 for sewer for 12 duplex units is quite-

789
01:20:28,165 --> 01:20:39,243
exorbitant half $1 million for water and 700,000 for sewer for unreasonable.ts is quite- so back to the decentralized system typically that is the package plant which I wouldn't say they're necessarily out of style but they're not the greatest

790
01:20:39,243 --> 01:20:39,676
thing going.

791
01:20:39,676 --> 01:20:50,220
They're regulated by dep usually they're starting gallons per day for that is 5000 gallons per day.

792
01:20:50,220 --> 01:21:07,400
The setbacks on those basically wipe out the entire site, the setbacks and the disposal system to meet the actual wwt of package plant standards are extreme for this site so we're proposing other types another type of decentralized system and

793
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:17,180
in the simplest form separate tanks our decentralized system according to department of health but we're not we're not proposing that we go with a standard septic tank.

794
01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:25,555
There's there's two and I'm glad tony linked them together for the water and the sewer if we re regulated by the fda.

795
01:21:25,555 --> 01:21:28,764
>> yep.

796
01:21:28,764 --> 01:21:48,830
>> well it has a 200 foot radius for our 2400 gallons per day so under the way the package plant limit for dep we for the well it has a 200 foot radius which wipes out most of the development.

797
01:21:48,550 --> 01:22:07,736
So what we're proposing for the well are to limited use department of department of health wells they are constructed to the same standard with grouting as a dep well but it's just not regulated by dep.

798
01:22:07,736 --> 01:22:23,520
I ave talked to evan searcy with the department of health and it could be permitted permitted with two wells and they would have 100 foot radiuses which would allow the the the sewer systems to operate it.

799
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:23,520
Mr.

800
01:22:23,252 --> 01:22:31,600
Ratcliffe is one well going to is going to service all ix units it would be two but they would be next to each other.

801
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:46,141
They would service all six units okay and they will be connected they would they would provide ndividual services to each unit as would be a future marion county requirement so it could be metered and it would be right next to the highway.

802
01:22:46,141 --> 01:22:49,144
>> so connection could be easily made in the future.

803
01:22:49,144 --> 01:23:09,310
>> we have said that e would connect at such time as as water becomes available and sewer and sewer yes we on our on our site plan we've shown where the piping would go for the sewer future sewer connection it would go we would go ahead and

804
01:23:09,310 --> 01:23:15,771
build it all the way out to the road and cap it and just wait until sewer became available.

805
01:23:15,771 --> 01:23:16,138
>> mr.

806
01:23:16,138 --> 01:23:16,305
Ratcliffe, mr.

807
01:23:16,305 --> 01:23:17,500
Stone has a question for you.

808
01:23:17,206 --> 01:23:19,241
Yes, ma'am.

809
01:23:19,241 --> 01:23:22,644
Thank you for the map that you've provided, mr.

810
01:23:22,644 --> 01:23:24,179
Ratcliffe can you tell me about the project itself?

811
01:23:24,179 --> 01:23:27,816
Is this going to be affordable?

812
01:23:27,816 --> 01:23:28,217
>> okay.

813
01:23:28,217 --> 01:23:28,484
Okay.

814
01:23:28,484 --> 01:23:31,620
Well tony, it is such a good job of introducing it.

815
01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:35,230
I'd kind of jump right into the details but I did have some information about that.

816
01:23:35,190 --> 01:23:53,742
It is supposed to be or proposed to be affordable housing there duplexes the market is very tight in in marion county s you know for reasonable housing and there's not too many residential areas sorry residents for projects going into this area

817
01:23:53,742 --> 01:24:11,930
and it is in kendrick essentially it's in the so when you say affordable housing, can you give me a dollar value of what those rents are going to okay okay the rents would be 1400 or $1500 which is based on the cost of development.

818
01:24:11,727 --> 01:24:22,788
I would as an aside or just further information let you know that all the other landscaping requirements buffer requirements, fencing and those sort of things have been met.

819
01:24:22,788 --> 01:24:27,692
Drainage on the site and fire fire requirements how big are these units going to be?

820
01:24:27,692 --> 01:24:31,129
>> pardon how big are these units going to be?

821
01:24:31,129 --> 01:24:33,980
>> I believe they're about 900ft2.

822
01:24:33,265 --> 01:24:33,665
>> okay.

823
01:24:33,665 --> 01:24:38,336
So with all due respect that is not affordable.

824
01:24:38,336 --> 01:24:52,840
So not that much standing right housing or more for that square footage and you're bringing in $18,000 a month at $1,500 per unit with 12 units.

825
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:52,851
>> you can't afford to do it.

826
01:24:52,851 --> 01:24:56,880
You need to rent and I understand it's not and but it is not subsidized housing.

827
01:24:56,288 --> 01:24:59,658
Some of that is much more is more affordable.

828
01:24:59,658 --> 01:25:03,528
>> this is not subsidized housing so yes, so curry mr.

829
01:25:03,528 --> 01:25:10,435
Griffin, what is what's the cost of a package plan for this location?

830
01:25:10,435 --> 01:25:10,569
griffin, what is what's the cost of a package plan for this location?-

831
01:25:10,569 --> 01:25:13,505
griffin, what is what's the cost of a package plan for this >> ation?-

832
01:25:13,505 --> 01:25:13,905
griffin, what is what's the cost of a package plan for this >> uh, n?-

833
01:25:13,905 --> 01:25:18,210
griffin, what is what's the cost of a package plan for this >> uh, it's in the hundreds of thousands.

834
01:25:18,210 --> 01:25:27,850
I used to design them 20 years ago but I probably haven't designed 1 in 20 years and for this size it was two $300,000.

835
01:25:27,252 --> 01:25:42,868
>> then the disposal puzzle takes up quite a bit of area whether you can't you could get it approved for a spray feel which takes up a lot more area than percolation ponds but you know that just doesn't have enough room to fit.

836
01:25:42,868 --> 01:25:46,972
I do have some information on what we're proposing if I could go ahead and continue.

837
01:25:46,972 --> 01:25:49,740
>> yes, sir.

838
01:25:49,408 --> 01:25:50,442
>> that the answer your question.

839
01:25:50,442 --> 01:25:53,211
Yeah, I'll follow.

840
01:25:53,211 --> 01:25:53,445
Okay.

841
01:25:53,445 --> 01:26:18,670
So what we're proposing is a and you know I in rb which is in ground nitrogen reducing bio filter and I do realize it's and which is a septic tank with enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin management action plan and

842
01:26:18,670 --> 01:26:18,837
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin management action plan and-

843
01:26:18,837 --> 01:26:18,937
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin another nt action plan and-

844
01:26:18,937 --> 01:26:19,370
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin another crack ion plan and-

845
01:26:19,370 --> 01:26:19,710
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin another crack that lan and-

846
01:26:19,710 --> 01:26:19,710
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin another crack that it and-

847
01:26:19,171 --> 01:26:33,151
enhanced drain field treatment it is in the b map area basin another crack that it kind of falls in is the under the beam out regulations beginning june 1st 2023 lots less than one acre requires 65% nitrogen reduction or over an acre.

848
01:26:33,151 --> 01:26:55,373
It doesn't qualify for that but beginning june 1st, 20, 34 years from now all our lots would require 65% nitrogen reduction and for a comparison, conventional septic systems only remove about 25 to 30% nitrogen and ground nitrogen reducing by

849
01:26:55,373 --> 01:26:58,900
filter does remove 65% nitrogen.

850
01:26:58,676 --> 01:27:03,715
>> so we would be meeting the requirement that's going to come into effect in 20.

851
01:27:03,715 --> 01:27:03,882
>> mr.

852
01:27:03,882 --> 01:27:04,820
Chair all right.

853
01:27:04,349 --> 01:27:06,840
Those are all current.

854
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,860
>> I mean that's basically almost current code we're doing that, correct?

855
01:27:08,860 --> 01:27:09,387
Correct.

856
01:27:09,387 --> 01:27:09,988
Right.

857
01:27:09,988 --> 01:27:10,880
>> that's what I'm doing.

858
01:27:10,688 --> 01:27:11,423
That's yeah, that was my point.

859
01:27:11,423 --> 01:27:14,320
So the code or the code is coming.

860
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:37,422
We will be meeting the 65% nitrogen at that that would be about $4,500 a unit $54,000 there there also advanced treatment units are appropriate treatment units or just distributed wastewater treatment systems which offer up to 80% 80% reduction.

861
01:27:37,422 --> 01:27:44,950
Those are almost double in cost little over double only $350 per unit for that.

862
01:27:44,295 --> 01:27:55,273
Those also have more mechanical parts and pumps, that sort of thing that that could fail in about a $6,000 per year operating cost.

863
01:27:55,273 --> 01:27:59,277
So that's those are the the the difference in costs.

864
01:27:59,277 --> 01:28:18,960
>> so we are requesting in lieu of a wastewater treatment plant to use the I in rb and also the two limited use wells otherwise the radiuses and the setbacks pretty much wipe out the project I think we understand that right brian had a question

865
01:28:18,730 --> 01:28:32,844
for you how big are the I mean we know how big they are square footage how many bedrooms are these units going to be two bedroom or two bedrooms for staff or I'm just thinking about this morning when we had our l have a plan that we approved

866
01:28:32,844 --> 01:28:45,560
this morning and I made specific notes that we have rental new construction and acquisition and rehabilitation at the 250,000 per unit available through community services.

867
01:28:45,289 --> 01:28:48,590
We desperately need some true affordable housing.

868
01:28:48,493 --> 01:29:08,279
We've approved a lot of market rate housing, multifamily, single family and I really think this may be before its time because it doesn't have the the lines that you need to develop this that you would have to do the well in the septic right

869
01:29:08,279 --> 01:29:13,840
and they right and they would be temporary we're going to put in the piping so that we can connect as well.

870
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:20,391
>> if you told me you doing affordable housing I'd lean more into making that exception .

871
01:29:20,391 --> 01:29:31,502
But I hear what your plan is or what your applicant's plan is for that though I think I'm going to pause on this one today and I'm sorry I didn't catch the program that you were talking about.

872
01:29:31,502 --> 01:29:35,907
>> we have assistance through our community development excuse me community services.

873
01:29:35,907 --> 01:29:39,430
>> okay.

874
01:29:39,210 --> 01:29:46,784
>> and there are dollars available to help developers truly do true affordable housing.

875
01:29:46,784 --> 01:29:48,219
That means it's going to be based on a sliding scale.

876
01:29:48,219 --> 01:30:06,540
However much that applet or the the person renting that property makes and it's a sliding scale based on that household income that's the type of housing we need and that's the type of housing I'd be more inclined to want to make exceptions

877
01:30:06,288 --> 01:30:14,329
for especially for multifamily housing at this juncture in the urban growth boundary.

878
01:30:14,329 --> 01:30:14,529
Mr.

879
01:30:14,529 --> 01:30:17,165
Stone mr.

880
01:30:17,165 --> 01:30:21,236
Curry tony, yes.

881
01:30:21,236 --> 01:30:22,537
How temporary is this going to be?

882
01:30:22,537 --> 01:30:26,740
>> yeah, I think we just we just don't know.

883
01:30:26,241 --> 01:30:40,722
So we don't have utility has no plans to extend facilities into this so it would be driven by other growth that would be extending years of you know things in here this is in the urban growth boundary but we aren't seeing significant amount

884
01:30:40,722 --> 01:30:56,400
of activity here that we're seeing in other places and from the cost standpoint, the the package plan would be just for storage.

885
01:30:56,338 --> 01:30:57,572
>> yes, the water would be in addition.

886
01:30:57,572 --> 01:31:00,750
Yes, sir.

887
01:31:00,750 --> 01:31:06,114
>> so just so so that would be $25,000 a year unit 300,000.

888
01:31:06,114 --> 01:31:10,852
So the enhanced septic is what ?

889
01:31:10,852 --> 01:31:13,550
>> well, 15,000 per unit is 40 55.

890
01:31:13,422 --> 01:31:13,722
Right.

891
01:31:13,722 --> 01:31:14,220
Right.

892
01:31:14,220 --> 01:31:25,500
Per unit that's the enhanced septic with it because they're not it's not a 80 years not anaerobic treatment unit and mr.

893
01:31:25,500 --> 01:31:26,668
Radcliffe it's not one for each unit, right?

894
01:31:26,668 --> 01:31:29,538
>> correct.

895
01:31:29,538 --> 01:31:29,971
>> right.

896
01:31:29,971 --> 01:31:30,380
That's it.

897
01:31:30,338 --> 01:31:30,572
Right.

898
01:31:30,572 --> 01:31:32,400
It would be one for two units.

899
01:31:32,274 --> 01:31:32,708
>> all right.

900
01:31:32,708 --> 01:31:39,581
Let me tell you my concern that I understand the cracks through your hand.

901
01:31:39,581 --> 01:31:39,815
Right.

902
01:31:39,815 --> 01:32:05,173
But you know, we've just spent over $40 million of arpa money and other money to try to put water and septic and silver spring shores and we keep going out and and making these accommodations to put more holes in the ground when we're trying

903
01:32:05,173 --> 01:32:08,377
to cover them up.

904
01:32:08,377 --> 01:32:29,998
>> and the thing that's always bothered me about the well aspect is that nobody is keeping up with that usage with that water t just seems like we keep working against that's correct.

905
01:32:29,998 --> 01:32:30,650
Right?

906
01:32:30,331 --> 01:32:30,565
Correct.

907
01:32:30,565 --> 01:32:49,840
But there they're going to be using about 200 gallons per day so they know about how much water they're going to be using, whether it's regulated by that limited use ell or the the p well or if it's connected to the central water system and

908
01:32:49,350 --> 01:33:04,874
which will eventually get better get there and we certainly would would like to have that there it's much easier to connect and just pay the pay the connection fees so and we we pay in the connection fees at a future point whenever it does connect

909
01:33:04,874 --> 01:33:16,753
so about the 45 hundred dollars debt yes and that's for one duplex or two unit is for $4,500 per unit not thousand per duplex.

910
01:33:16,753 --> 01:33:17,530
Okay.

911
01:33:17,530 --> 01:33:17,530
Right.

912
01:33:17,286 --> 01:33:31,434
And then the upper the higher level of treatment which was but certainly I guess in today's regulation and some of the regulations are still being developed for a decentralized system would be he itu.

913
01:33:31,434 --> 01:33:36,720
>> yeah and the distributed waste now that would fit also double the cost but probably wouldn't kill the project.

914
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,674
>> thank you mr.

915
01:33:38,674 --> 01:33:39,142
Radcliffe.

916
01:33:39,142 --> 01:33:39,308
Mr.

917
01:33:39,308 --> 01:33:40,543
Echo, I'm going o bring this back to the board.

918
01:33:40,543 --> 01:33:41,770
We need to we need to move on.

919
01:33:41,310 --> 01:33:41,611
Okay.

920
01:33:41,611 --> 01:33:42,450
Sorry, ma'am.

921
01:33:42,378 --> 01:33:43,460
Thank you for your time, sir.

922
01:33:43,212 --> 01:33:53,923
So commissioners, I think here's the simple thing they're going to sign two agreements to say hey, if you run the utilities, whether it's water and sewer that they're going to automatically connect.

923
01:33:53,923 --> 01:34:06,402
So that is a plus if we want to give a waiver of sorts to the septic tank systems, I think what we should do is like what we've done in the past and put our performance based standard on it.

924
01:34:06,402 --> 01:34:13,760
So we would say hey mike, if you want to make this work some other way you still need to make meet the 90% criteria in mr.

925
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:25,540
Chair before you keep going, let me just jump on out there and say I make a motion to uphold the trustees action to deny the waiver request and I'm going to second that.

926
01:34:25,221 --> 01:34:28,891
>> I think that that's too intense of a use on that property right there.

927
01:34:28,891 --> 01:34:46,800
I understand that it has our three zoning but they are trying to cram 12 duplexes on an acre and a half six no it's 12 units six duplexes 12 units that's 40 eight people on an acre and a half on septic tanks when we have been working hard to

928
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,900
make sure that that doesn't happen.

929
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:58,821
And if you look at the surrounding area, it's certainly I know it has the zoning but it doesn't match the homes that are around it that are single family residential homes on acre lots.

930
01:34:58,821 --> 01:35:05,610
So for me I'm going to be in no at this time so that a second that's a second might be a third.

931
01:35:05,528 --> 01:35:14,537
>> all right have a motion by commissioners no motion by commissioner stone second by commissioner bryant a question of discussion.

932
01:35:14,537 --> 01:35:15,400
I see none.

933
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,700
All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed sorry mr.

934
01:35:18,700 --> 01:35:18,908
Radcliffe that that's denied.

935
01:35:18,908 --> 01:35:22,545
>> thank ou for both of them.

936
01:35:22,545 --> 01:35:23,346
15 one two and 15 one three.

937
01:35:23,346 --> 01:35:35,725
All right, let's get into our consent agenda

938
01:35:35,725 --> 01:35:36,125
.

939
01:35:36,125 --> 01:35:37,930
>> good afternoon, commissioners.

940
01:35:37,930 --> 01:35:46,469
Chuck very and again charter growth services if we could bring up the map or sorry the screen so the community can see the map.

941
01:35:46,469 --> 01:35:54,280
So I'm going to go through the two consent items and we'll hopefully the community can follow along and see where these are at.

942
01:35:54,195 --> 01:35:57,650
So the first one is item 15.2.

943
01:35:57,332 --> 01:35:57,699
Point one.

944
01:35:57,699 --> 01:36:17,652
This is case number 26 0201 issue for seeing okay nine a llc as well as christina sanders and charles kent wall they're requesting a special use permit to allow three things outdoor torage and sales of propane to up to five 53 foot trailers

945
01:36:17,652 --> 01:36:24,125
to store hay and three a saturday farmer's market from 9 a.m.

946
01:36:24,125 --> 01:36:24,392
To 2 p.m.

947
01:36:24,392 --> 01:36:48,149
In a community business be to zone it's an 8.58 acre parcel parcel account number is 18 01-000a-001 site address is 4860 as well as 4880 and 4900 us highway 41 in dunellen this is this was a result of a court case.

948
01:36:48,149 --> 01:36:58,260
It was self generated case so there's no opposition to this at the moment storage in trailers so pull it all to be heard individually okay.

949
01:36:58,260 --> 01:37:00,610
The next one is 15.2.

950
01:37:00,495 --> 01:37:17,812
Point two case number 26 0206 zc mike kirby in amber kirby and roberta peyton is a zoning change from general culture a-1 to single family dwelling are one zone for all permitted uses.

951
01:37:17,812 --> 01:37:21,783
It's a little over four acre portion of a 6.23 acre parcel.

952
01:37:21,783 --> 01:37:35,960
The parcel account number is 30 9279-010-00 so that address is 80 107 and 8111 east highway 25 belleview, florida 34420.

953
01:37:35,330 --> 01:37:49,277
They're requesting a to rezone the whole property to r one so they can put two single family dwellings on it and they did sign an affidavit saying that they would remove the mobile home that's currently on the site within 60 days if those owners

954
01:37:49,277 --> 01:37:49,911
approved.

955
01:37:49,911 --> 01:38:01,890
Those are for your consideration commissioners 15 to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any issues with any of these I

956
01:38:01,322 --> 01:38:01,456
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any issues with any of these I-

957
01:38:01,456 --> 01:38:01,556
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think with any of these I-

958
01:38:01,556 --> 01:38:01,656
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think then any of these I-

959
01:38:01,656 --> 01:38:01,756
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think then we'll f these I-

960
01:38:01,756 --> 01:38:01,789
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think then we'll bring e I-

961
01:38:01,789 --> 01:38:01,889
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think then we'll bring it -

962
01:38:01,889 --> 01:38:12,166
to 2 or good with anyone in the public have any items or any think then we'll bring it back to the board of approval if you guys want move approval 15 to 2 I moved section move 15 to 2 by commissioner mcclain second by commissioner bryant.

963
01:38:12,166 --> 01:38:18,272
>> all those in favor signify by saying I any opposed that passes unanimously.

964
01:38:18,272 --> 01:38:19,607
>> hey can't let's just take a look at 15 to 1.

965
01:38:19,607 --> 01:38:21,750
Can we just I don't mind.

966
01:38:21,709 --> 01:38:22,760
>> I love the farmer's market.

967
01:38:22,577 --> 01:38:36,657
I love all the other stuff but I hate these these tractor broken down tractor trailer sitting out there or 20 years and I understand that is actually one of the the items that we are excuse me kenneth gregg services item number 260201 issue

968
01:38:36,657 --> 01:38:50,547
that is one of the things that we had a discussion with the applicants about there are unsightly one of the things there's two alternatives one in the temporary staff requested to install a custom head on the north or excuse me the south side

969
01:38:50,547 --> 01:38:55,351
of the property where there's a direct visual buffer between the residences that do have a line of sight with them.

970
01:38:55,351 --> 01:39:11,201
The intent of the applicant is actually to install a drive through metal building to dispense of those at some point in the future although that time has not been illustrated or delineated and it was not a recommendation by staff, it is not

971
01:39:11,201 --> 01:39:13,690
an intent to have this term.

972
01:39:13,636 --> 01:39:20,577
Is there a long term other than delivery instead to be replaced by storage f that metal building at some point in time?

973
01:39:20,577 --> 01:39:24,881
So that could be something that the board could recommend to use.

974
01:39:24,881 --> 01:39:36,920
>> let's just get rid of that and put the I mean if if we can get three votes but rather than do some kind of metal building or a lean to or something else like that meets the standard, those trailers are just we did not mr.

975
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,697
Chairman we never we never discussed any kind of timeline .

976
01:39:40,697 --> 01:39:43,990
Would you mind if I actually brought the applicant ups or we yes, we have to remember they are excellent.

977
01:39:43,266 --> 01:39:49,572
>> come on down.

978
01:39:49,572 --> 01:39:52,976
>> they can probably give us some remedy quicker.

979
01:39:52,976 --> 01:40:02,152
Hello my name's can't all 6650 southeast u.s.

980
01:40:02,152 --> 01:40:22,172
Highway 41 morrison florida north for we are the owners of the feed store it is a feed store and trailers are part of the feed store that's where we store a so in you have had no complaints have you been out there and seen them?

981
01:40:22,172 --> 01:40:22,972
Yeah I've seen them all.

982
01:40:22,972 --> 01:40:23,673
They're all over marion county.

983
01:40:23,673 --> 01:40:26,420
Okay but have you seen our property where it's at.

984
01:40:26,276 --> 01:40:26,509
Yeah.

985
01:40:26,509 --> 01:40:32,549
Yes okay well that's what I was we could do anything but that's that's part of our business.

986
01:40:32,549 --> 01:40:37,220
That's part of our business for this community is people who need their hay.

987
01:40:37,220 --> 01:40:37,787
They need their feed.

988
01:40:37,787 --> 01:40:38,880
Yes, they're all over.

989
01:40:38,321 --> 01:40:44,961
But we are essential to our area and that's part of it and nobody's complained about it.

990
01:40:44,961 --> 01:40:48,640
Nobody said anything or is ruining the looks of anything.

991
01:40:48,498 --> 01:40:49,990
>> that was just your opinion?

992
01:40:49,299 --> 01:40:49,632
Yes, sir.

993
01:40:49,632 --> 01:41:03,813
It is my yeah and but if you would like I mean if you want me to paint them but there's no I don't I don't see the big problem with it in there we have discussed I probably even need more but we have discussed with him about wo the five there

994
01:41:03,813 --> 01:41:16,259
and then in the future we are wanting to try to build a bigger building so it all can go in there but we got to understand that these trailers people will come in and drop the hay off and then when we sell it then they come back and pick it

995
01:41:16,259 --> 01:41:22,565
up and replace it with another trailer to just not just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field.

996
01:41:22,565 --> 01:41:25,869
>> I am christina sanders 6650

997
01:41:25,869 --> 01:41:26,690
just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field. >> I am christina sanders 6650-

998
01:41:26,690 --> 01:41:27,937
just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field. Southeast ristina sanders 6650-

999
01:41:27,937 --> 01:41:28,138
just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field. Southeast missouri anders 6650-

1000
01:41:28,138 --> 01:41:28,371
just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field. Southeast missouri 41 ers 6650-

1001
01:41:28,371 --> 01:41:39,535
just junkies trailers sitting out in the middle of the field. Southeast missouri 41 marston0- florida we have just discussed with them visually about putting something different there and these railers can be moved and we can get something more

1002
01:41:39,535 --> 01:41:47,910
of a better eye appeal to replace the hay that's in them or or whatever you suggest for us to do.

1003
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:50,780
>> so we don't have a problem with helping you.

1004
01:41:50,780 --> 01:41:51,514
I like what you guys are doing.

1005
01:41:51,514 --> 01:41:51,881
I love it.

1006
01:41:51,881 --> 01:41:59,880
I just these trailers in the practice that they use or yeah it's just terrible.

1007
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:06,462
>> so if we can figure out a different way to do it but they don't have the they don't have the current right to have those trailers, they're not on the beach, you know.

1008
01:42:06,462 --> 01:42:06,829
>> right.

1009
01:42:06,829 --> 01:42:09,980
So you don't have the right my opinion.

1010
01:42:09,699 --> 01:42:17,673
Yes, absolutely because you don't have the right to have them there so I think you need to make it as unsightly as possible.

1011
01:42:17,673 --> 01:42:19,750
>> you know, understand that that's what we're trying to make mr.

1012
01:42:19,208 --> 01:42:20,610
And mr.

1013
01:42:20,610 --> 01:42:32,210
Chair, I just want to verify so people load that hay up, bring it to you, leave the trailer taken they went out that that's the business model that it's operating with.

1014
01:42:32,210 --> 01:42:44,834
>> but the bottom line is is that there's always a set of trailers but hat's what the special use I mean for them yeah I live out you get it an area where I see that often I mean that that's them on so hold on a second this happens to be in

1015
01:42:44,834 --> 01:42:55,111
my district I have never not one time gotten an email or a phone call from a constituent complaining about this business.

1016
01:42:55,111 --> 01:42:56,450
>> they've come in, they've self-reported.

1017
01:42:56,279 --> 01:42:58,981
They're trying to make it right .

1018
01:42:58,981 --> 01:43:00,490
>> I don't think that we need to make it harder on them.

1019
01:43:00,383 --> 01:43:01,951
We can just plant the heads though, right?

1020
01:43:01,951 --> 01:43:07,857
Like our staff is there and like I do, I'm willing to do whatever you want us to do to increase the line of sight.

1021
01:43:07,857 --> 01:43:22,905
>> that's what I'm sure you're willing to do that you willing to do whatever whatever you'd like us to do, make sure it's as was mentioned before this was a self generated case of of course we're not agents are officer maureen bennett actually

1022
01:43:22,905 --> 01:43:23,740
located this area.

1023
01:43:23,740 --> 01:43:34,650
There were a few other things that we noticed in the area upon site visits they've immediately corrected these these issues if we have a screen up please.

1024
01:43:34,650 --> 01:43:38,254
This was a temporary fix as far as staff was concerned.

1025
01:43:38,254 --> 01:43:42,910
The the trailers are located in a revetment on the southern portion of the property.

1026
01:43:42,558 --> 01:43:45,628
This location the residences are located around this corner.

1027
01:43:45,628 --> 01:43:46,280
This is heavily wooded.

1028
01:43:46,228 --> 01:44:00,900
The temporary fix that we were suggesting was all a customer by burnham hedge that would come up on the north side of this small parcel which is a lip station and then across the southern face of their parcel until uch time as they were able

1029
01:44:00,376 --> 01:44:04,780
to have a permanent building installed and that's in the permit.

1030
01:44:04,780 --> 01:44:05,810
It is, yes, sir.

1031
01:44:05,347 --> 01:44:07,950
We're going to go hold on.

1032
01:44:07,950 --> 01:44:22,932
Can you bring me up a picture of the view along that side there that you're talking about having them a lie by burnham hedge and we've got some others located right here down in the lower left corner.

1033
01:44:22,932 --> 01:44:23,566
Okay.

1034
01:44:23,566 --> 01:44:33,185
>> and you're seeing that from that is the first home that's the driveway of the first time we're right out in front of it at that location you're out in front of the driveway of the first home.

1035
01:44:33,185 --> 01:44:35,487
The driveway is just down to the bottom.

1036
01:44:35,487 --> 01:44:37,890
You can see it right there right in front of the hedge.

1037
01:44:37,890 --> 01:44:44,863
But I'm in front of the home when I was taking that photo there's a series of homes that are extending from north to south that go up the street.

1038
01:44:44,863 --> 01:44:45,640
Yes, ma'am.

1039
01:44:45,297 --> 01:44:47,533
They're not working up to it.

1040
01:44:47,533 --> 01:44:48,670
>> that's correct.

1041
01:44:48,670 --> 01:45:03,982
Away from the property and so is it as their view is their view that or only when they're coming out of the driveway is going down the driveway the first two homes probably the first permit I actually walked up on to the sidewalk near one of

1042
01:45:03,982 --> 01:45:04,650
the homes.

1043
01:45:04,650 --> 01:45:06,151
The first two homes have a visual line of sight to this.

1044
01:45:06,151 --> 01:45:19,980
The rest of the homes do not appear in their yard and as I mentioned before, staff recommended we feel like custom edge and started that location would completely stop ny kind of line of sight to those trailers from that location.

1045
01:45:19,932 --> 01:45:22,835
>> okay.

1046
01:45:22,835 --> 01:45:23,369
All right then.

1047
01:45:23,369 --> 01:45:23,736
Yes, sir.

1048
01:45:23,736 --> 01:45:29,475
This note to two of the people who live on that road or my drivers that leave their truck or at their place.

1049
01:45:29,475 --> 01:45:33,212
So it ain't like they're not used to seeing trailers.

1050
01:45:33,212 --> 01:45:37,282
How long have you been there?

1051
01:45:37,282 --> 01:45:39,184
Yeah,we have motion for a year and we're planning second by commission.

1052
01:45:39,184 --> 01:45:41,887
So all those in favor signify by saying I opposed that passed unanimously.

1053
01:45:41,887 --> 01:45:43,422
Thank you for taking care of that.

1054
01:45:43,422 --> 01:45:44,256
Thank you.

1055
01:45:44,256 --> 01:45:44,857
>> thank you.

1056
01:45:44,857 --> 01:45:47,726
All right.

1057
01:45:47,726 --> 01:45:48,600
>> wow.

1058
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:48,600
You need to relax.

1059
01:45:48,594 --> 01:45:52,970
You had too much caffeine on lunch.

1060
01:45:52,970 --> 01:45:52,970
>> well, he gave it to me.

1061
01:45:52,765 --> 01:46:01,740
He gave it and it's been going on for a while, huh?

1062
01:46:01,740 --> 01:46:02,141
All right.

1063
01:46:02,141 --> 01:46:05,944
And lord, lord have mercy.

1064
01:46:05,944 --> 01:46:06,678
>> good afternoon.

1065
01:46:06,678 --> 01:46:10,820
Kathleen bagnoli growth services this is 25 050 to asu.

1066
01:46:10,349 --> 01:46:13,819
This is fish hawk distillery.

1067
01:46:13,819 --> 01:46:16,488
This is coming back before you as the six month update.

1068
01:46:16,488 --> 01:46:27,166
>> so I'm just kind of as a refresher this was a special use permit to allow for an artisanal micro distillery and an a-1 zoning classification.

1069
01:46:27,166 --> 01:46:36,750
The properties there's two parcels they are located in a rural land land use and general agriculture a-1 zone.

1070
01:46:36,408 --> 01:46:40,790
They're currently listed as I production with the marion county property appraisers.

1071
01:46:40,245 --> 01:46:47,860
As far as the two parcels that I just mentioned they are outside the urban growth boundary.

1072
01:46:47,319 --> 01:46:48,554
They're inside the primary springs protection zone.

1073
01:46:48,554 --> 01:46:56,128
They're part of westwood acas north subdivision initially the first as up for this was granted in 2012.

1074
01:46:56,128 --> 01:47:15,614
This is the concept plan provided over to the left is the western property currently vacant except for a storage a storage unit there that they're using for the business or for the distillery and then of course the parcel to the east is the

1075
01:47:15,614 --> 01:47:20,600
gift shop, the distillery itself and a couple of outbuildings just some site photos of the property.

1076
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:33,653
>> so we initially posted t and this is our most recent posting for this meeting some of the buildings on site, the distillery this was the tasting room and then a couple more shots of the distillery itself .

1077
01:47:33,653 --> 01:47:47,800
>> so as far as the history again 2012 was initially the micro distillery at that time it was just the 280 square foot accessory building is essentially like a hobby.

1078
01:47:47,800 --> 01:48:00,613
There were no commercial sales on sites, no commercial traffic on site in 2015 they came back in for their renewal the same conditions.

1079
01:48:00,613 --> 01:48:05,218
So between 2015 and 2021 there were a number of buildings that were constructed.

1080
01:48:05,218 --> 01:48:13,920
Those were done without permitting and then sales started taking place on site.

1081
01:48:13,459 --> 01:48:17,296
They have that tasting room so commercial traffic was coming on site.

1082
01:48:17,296 --> 01:48:24,370
So at that time and 2021 they were giving an itemized list of things that they needed to do to bring that back into compliance.

1083
01:48:24,370 --> 01:48:34,800
That permit expired as of may 2025 and then that's kind of bringing us up to date here 2025 they came in or their renewal.

1084
01:48:34,714 --> 01:48:35,481
It was to be heard in may.

1085
01:48:35,481 --> 01:48:38,951
We gave them a little bit more time to try to get things finalized.

1086
01:48:38,951 --> 01:48:50,960
Came before you in august and then at that time they were granted the six month period in which to have one of two things happen which we'll get into in a moment.

1087
01:48:50,496 --> 01:49:00,773
Of course we had those list of concerns at the time staff recommended denial planning and zoning recommended denial and that brought us to the six months.

1088
01:49:00,773 --> 01:49:08,800
>> so as of today as of this meeting we did each out and we spoke to mr.

1089
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:08,800
Pheno.

1090
01:49:08,314 --> 01:49:19,910
We had a phone call with him and I believe it was the ceo for fish hawk was also on the call just asking them what the two conditions that were provided were.

1091
01:49:19,859 --> 01:49:27,990
Option number one, bring the site into compliance, get that site plan approval, get those building permits, get everything up to code.

1092
01:49:27,933 --> 01:49:35,808
The other option that was provided back in august by the board was to find an alternative location that perhaps worked better for the distillery to move to.

1093
01:49:35,808 --> 01:49:51,190
So during the food conference we did discuss those two options and what had happened with both of them as of today there's no site plan review in process and there's none approved.

1094
01:49:51,190 --> 01:49:54,593
There are also no building permits that have been pulled.

1095
01:49:54,593 --> 01:49:58,164
So we did ask why that was.

1096
01:49:58,164 --> 01:50:09,720
We were told that the process itself was cost prohibitive just for needing to do things like reach out to have an engineer provide a site plan the cost of building permits.

1097
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:24,670
So they said that the that option was cost prohibitive and then option two they said that they did look for some alternative locations but they did not find anything that would match the needs of the distillery for present or future.

1098
01:50:24,234 --> 01:50:31,410
So currently either of those things have happened and that's where we are today.

1099
01:50:31,408 --> 01:50:32,142
Applicant here come on down.

1100
01:50:32,142 --> 01:50:40,880
Question for you yeah commissioner have we ever received any complaints about this location?

1101
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:44,454
Yes at our last hearing I oh I'm sorry.

1102
01:50:44,454 --> 01:50:53,960
So in speaking yes people came up to speak but I don't think that we've had I don't recall any written opposition that we have received no formal complaints from neighbors or anything like that.

1103
01:50:53,864 --> 01:50:57,100
>> I don't believe so.

1104
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:57,434
>> no.

1105
01:50:57,434 --> 01:50:57,701
No.

1106
01:50:57,701 --> 01:51:01,538
Only the gunman like some of the gunshots stuff and then the building permit?

1107
01:51:01,538 --> 01:51:04,700
No, the building permit is not issued.

1108
01:51:04,341 --> 01:51:04,708
>> right.

1109
01:51:04,708 --> 01:51:05,475
But not complaints from there.

1110
01:51:05,475 --> 01:51:05,709
Yeah.

1111
01:51:05,709 --> 01:51:11,915
The neighbors were here at our last hearing and they had come they had complaints and there were concerns.

1112
01:51:11,915 --> 01:51:14,820
>> okay.

1113
01:51:14,818 --> 01:51:15,520
All right.

1114
01:51:15,452 --> 01:51:15,819
Hey, guys.

1115
01:51:15,819 --> 01:51:16,860
Hey, how you doing?

1116
01:51:16,319 --> 01:51:18,880
Why did you have it done?

1117
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:36,306
Joe for, you know, 19375 northwest highway 335 williston, florida three two again 19375 five northwest highway 335 williston 32696.

1118
01:51:36,306 --> 01:51:36,907
>> I am dr.

1119
01:51:36,907 --> 01:51:39,276
Molineaux.

1120
01:51:39,276 --> 01:51:43,146
I'm the ceo of fish hawk spirits 1102 mary water drive tampa, florida.

1121
01:51:43,146 --> 01:51:44,448
>> do either of you live on the property?

1122
01:51:44,448 --> 01:51:46,583
No, ma'am.

1123
01:51:46,583 --> 01:51:47,217
More.

1124
01:51:47,217 --> 01:51:53,490
Master distiller matthew bag damage does that was part of the original recipe.

1125
01:51:53,490 --> 01:51:57,728
I just want to give you a quick update so I'm trying to get close to the microphone.

1126
01:51:57,728 --> 01:51:58,729
First of all, thank you for your time.

1127
01:51:58,729 --> 01:52:03,734
I'm going to be extremely brief .

1128
01:52:03,734 --> 01:52:11,410
Thank you very much for the board and the previous boards that allowed us to operate for over 13 years here in marion county.

1129
01:52:11,410 --> 01:52:23,653
>> we're very appreciative that we've invested over $4.5 million into this business now in people equipment inventory and also into our brand itself .

1130
01:52:23,653 --> 01:52:24,540
>> we've been given six months.

1131
01:52:24,421 --> 01:52:35,732
We have exhausted all our opportunities to try to stir up some more capital to be able to renovate the site to meet the requirements that marion county has placed on us.

1132
01:52:35,732 --> 01:52:46,209
And you know, there there is nothing that we can do to bring it up to code right now with you know, the amount of money that it's going to require.

1133
01:52:46,209 --> 01:52:59,990
We've taken the suggestions of the board from last meeting to seek alternative locations and we're actually in negotiations right now with a couple of different distilleries and this is the plan that we are pursuing.

1134
01:52:59,990 --> 01:53:08,990
So it's going to take about 60 days for us to completely remove ourself from the premises, turn it back over to the landlord.

1135
01:53:08,990 --> 01:53:11,802
We already started ramping up production at the end of last year.

1136
01:53:11,802 --> 01:53:23,347
We've already laid off one of our staff members early this year we have another one that's put in his two week notice because he's pursuing other opportunities.

1137
01:53:23,347 --> 01:53:24,415
We have transfers and bonds n place.

1138
01:53:24,415 --> 01:53:38,796
That's part of that state and federal requirement for us to be able to transfer liquor off the site in a legal manner because it's got to be in a bonded area and bonded and transfer and I'm going to turn it over to dr.

1139
01:53:38,796 --> 01:53:39,630
Molineaux.

1140
01:53:39,630 --> 01:53:42,566
I'll answer any questions you guys have after he gets a chance to speak.

1141
01:53:42,566 --> 01:53:43,000
>> thank you.

1142
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:44,100
And just reiterate what joe said.

1143
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:49,707
Thank you very much for the opportunity and the years we've been here.

1144
01:53:49,707 --> 01:53:50,708
We have exhausted all possibilities.

1145
01:53:50,708 --> 01:53:57,248
The site itself doesn't lend itself to the type of business that we currently have.

1146
01:53:57,248 --> 01:54:06,624
We could modify the business and maybe continue to operate there but then we have other problems with buildings we built septic system e were told we got to pave from southwest 27th avenue.

1147
01:54:06,624 --> 01:54:10,610
It's almost a mile so it's $1 million a mile to pay for road.

1148
01:54:10,428 --> 01:54:13,970
These are just unreasonable requirements.

1149
01:54:13,330 --> 01:54:13,898
We can't do it again.

1150
01:54:13,898 --> 01:54:16,734
The building that we have will not be compliant.

1151
01:54:16,734 --> 01:54:21,720
Even if we brought in engineers we would have to tear it down and then rebuild the building.

1152
01:54:21,372 --> 01:54:21,639
Okay.

1153
01:54:21,639 --> 01:54:25,420
Very apologetic that we did not follow procedures and protocols.

1154
01:54:25,209 --> 01:54:30,181
We were working in an agricultural zone and we were a little craft company just trying to get and get our get ourselves going.

1155
01:54:30,181 --> 01:54:33,417
>> and as joe indicated, we've spent over $4 million on this business.

1156
01:54:33,417 --> 01:54:47,197
We've only had a few hundred thousand dollars in actual revenue when you look at it all said and done and there's just no possible way we can do anything there to meet the current building requirements that are placed on us.

1157
01:54:47,197 --> 01:54:55,272
So with that said, we've gone and tried to find other buildings in marion county, other locations that we could maybe move into make modifications.

1158
01:54:55,272 --> 01:55:06,950
We found nothing that's suitable in marion county so we are going to have to move the business out of marion county and he distilleries that we're working with right now to get this transfer and bond that joe was talking about will be outside

1159
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:07,510
of marion county.

1160
01:55:07,451 --> 01:55:21,865
We are the last distillery left in marion county and I know you guys watch the news and the whiskey business is terrible right now the whole alcohol industry is just dying out and we're suffering from that and we don't have any choice but to

1161
01:55:21,865 --> 01:55:29,390
try to find some other location and work with another place to continue to have our 27 brands propagate throughout the united states.

1162
01:55:29,373 --> 01:55:30,700
S thank you very much.

1163
01:55:30,700 --> 01:55:30,700
We appreciate everything.

1164
01:55:30,641 --> 01:55:36,780
You have any questions for me or any comments from the audience?

1165
01:55:36,780 --> 01:55:36,980
>> mr.

1166
01:55:36,980 --> 01:55:37,470
Chair?

1167
01:55:37,214 --> 01:55:37,614
Any questions?

1168
01:55:37,614 --> 01:55:38,115
I have a question.

1169
01:55:38,115 --> 01:55:44,888
I mean I hate that it's come to this I mean you're a small craft business.

1170
01:55:44,888 --> 01:55:54,143
You grew out of an area and it's just unfortunate that you can't bring yourself into compliance and I hate that and especially that you have to take it outside of marion county.

1171
01:55:54,143 --> 01:55:56,979
How long is it going to take you to exit the property?

1172
01:55:56,979 --> 01:56:07,356
>> it's going to take us 60 days probably to get the alcohol and the equipment out and then probably another 30 days or so to move the other ancillary equipment.

1173
01:56:07,356 --> 01:56:09,191
We do have two lots there.

1174
01:56:09,191 --> 01:56:10,359
One of them is a leased lot.

1175
01:56:10,359 --> 01:56:18,701
>> the other one where our distiller lives and our facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the court on that we actually use

1176
01:56:18,701 --> 01:56:18,801
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the court on that we actually use-

1177
01:56:18,801 --> 01:56:18,868
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in rt on that we actually use-

1178
01:56:18,868 --> 01:56:19,100
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the n that we actually use-

1179
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:19,350
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the whiskey e actually use-

1180
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:19,350
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the whiskey we ctually use-

1181
01:56:19,135 --> 01:56:19,168
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the whiskey we make ly use-

1182
01:56:19,168 --> 01:56:19,301
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the whiskey we make so use-

1183
01:56:19,301 --> 01:56:26,750
facility is the one next to it is the lot that we grow the in the whiskey we make so we'll continue to own that lot and be able to do agricultural things like grow corn but clearly we can't make liquor on that site.

1184
01:56:26,750 --> 01:56:29,245
We can't pave a mile highway.

1185
01:56:29,245 --> 01:56:29,979
>> it's just inconceivable.

1186
01:56:29,979 --> 01:56:34,717
Yeah, I don't by the way I don't know that anyone is actually to pave a mile road.

1187
01:56:34,717 --> 01:56:47,630
>> I yeah actually it's it's in the documents that we were to pay from southwest 27th all the way up to the driveway five handicapped parking parking spots handicapped parking spots regular parking spots it just it's you don't do that in the

1188
01:56:47,596 --> 01:56:58,700
middle of a farm field so and there's lots of farms out here that on't have that understand but well, you're operating a commercial business in a residential area.

1189
01:56:58,700 --> 01:56:59,800
>> I mean I mean that's the problem.

1190
01:56:59,208 --> 01:57:05,981
Well, kathleen, it's impossible that you could pull up that one document that has the drc requirements that we were put under in order to be compliant.

1191
01:57:05,981 --> 01:57:08,840
>> it does it doesn't matter.

1192
01:57:08,417 --> 01:57:08,751
>> okay.

1193
01:57:08,751 --> 01:57:16,592
We just want to make sure that you can you know, at the end of the day we've we've tried to give you we've actually we've given you years to come into compliance with the building permits.

1194
01:57:16,592 --> 01:57:16,926
Yes, sir.

1195
01:57:16,926 --> 01:57:19,862
You have we have done everything we can.

1196
01:57:19,862 --> 01:57:23,833
You knew for years this process was coming.

1197
01:57:23,833 --> 01:57:24,660
Yes, sir.

1198
01:57:24,300 --> 01:57:25,101
And we don't want you to leave.

1199
01:57:25,101 --> 01:57:25,868
We don't want you to go.

1200
01:57:25,868 --> 01:57:28,370
But you have to come in compliance at some level.

1201
01:57:28,270 --> 01:57:41,550
So I understand you have to make a business decision whether to put money into the current property and bring it up to code or to go try to do something else and I respect the business but I just want to say I mean we have for years tried to

1202
01:57:41,550 --> 01:57:42,885
work with you because we love what you do.

1203
01:57:42,885 --> 01:57:45,154
Thank you.

1204
01:57:45,154 --> 01:57:46,555
You know and appreciate what you do.

1205
01:57:46,555 --> 01:57:57,833
And so but unfortunately we can't waive the building code for for any longer and that's kind of what got us to this point.

1206
01:57:57,833 --> 01:58:16,318
We try to give you time and time and time and time and unfortunately we've we've seen no progress and so we you know but we'll try to give you the 90 days after that you'll force our hand into code enforcement to actually start filing if that's

1207
01:58:16,318 --> 01:58:17,920
if that's up to the board to take public comment.

1208
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,623
>> yeah.

1209
01:58:20,623 --> 01:58:21,570
Well no, I don't think so.

1210
01:58:21,390 --> 01:58:23,659
No.

1211
01:58:23,659 --> 01:58:24,930
Okay.

1212
01:58:24,930 --> 01:58:24,930
>> sorry.

1213
01:58:24,493 --> 01:58:25,610
Any anything else on your side?

1214
01:58:25,194 --> 01:58:39,809
I noticed we didn't the time to be able to make this move and make everything happen correctly because we have a lot of state and federal requirements besides the ones that exist in marion county with respect to alcohol production and distribution,

1215
01:58:39,809 --> 01:58:39,842
etc.

1216
01:58:39,842 --> 01:58:44,880
I mean I know we can grow corn but you know, I don't know what I'm going to do with it.

1217
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,840
> okay.

1218
01:58:47,418 --> 01:58:48,152
Questions or comments?

1219
01:58:48,152 --> 01:58:48,386
Questions.

1220
01:58:48,386 --> 01:58:48,819
All right.

1221
01:58:48,819 --> 01:58:50,688
Anyone in the public want to speak?

1222
01:58:50,688 --> 01:58:51,880
Aren't seeing none.

1223
01:58:51,322 --> 01:58:58,162
>> we'll bring it back to the board for denial and give them 90 days to vacate and to shut the business down on enforcement.

1224
01:58:58,162 --> 01:58:58,529
>> yep.

1225
01:58:58,529 --> 01:58:58,763
Yep.

1226
01:58:58,763 --> 01:59:05,970
So madam commissioner, I mean would you be willing to add an additional 60 days?

1227
01:59:05,970 --> 01:59:08,773
I think 90 days is plenty.

1228
01:59:08,773 --> 01:59:12,843
>> he said he needs 60 days to get his alcohol and all the equipment off of there and then an additional 30 days.

1229
01:59:12,843 --> 01:59:13,811
>> so I think 90 days is plenty.

1230
01:59:13,811 --> 01:59:16,470
They knew this was coming.

1231
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:27,725
I just would have been operating in a residential area for however many years and quite frankly I I'm not really appreciative of the fact that you made this sound like a marion county problem because it's not a marion county problem.

1232
01:59:27,725 --> 01:59:28,590
It's a you problem.

1233
01:59:28,225 --> 01:59:31,950
You set up a business in a residential area.

1234
01:59:31,462 --> 01:59:41,972
You operated this business where you shouldn't have been operating it and we told you time and time again look for alternative locations come into compliance and you didn't do it.

1235
01:59:41,972 --> 01:59:49,280
So you are here where you are at because of the decisions that were made by you, your management team, whomever.

1236
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:50,140
>> so no, I'm good.

1237
01:59:50,140 --> 01:59:52,483
May I comment on hat?

1238
01:59:52,483 --> 01:59:53,117
Nope.

1239
01:59:53,117 --> 01:59:53,384
Okay.

1240
01:59:53,384 --> 01:59:53,818
Thank you, sir.

1241
01:59:53,818 --> 01:59:54,185
All right.

1242
01:59:54,185 --> 01:59:58,220
All those in favor signify by saying I got a second.

1243
01:59:58,220 --> 01:59:59,690
We had a motion by commissioner o'brien.

1244
01:59:59,690 --> 02:00:04,428
I thought you know, I ask if we could mr.

1245
02:00:04,428 --> 02:00:06,664
Curry a second have a motion by commissioner o'brien second by commissioner curry.

1246
02:00:06,664 --> 02:00:11,402
All those in favor signify by saying I I any opposed that passed unanimously.

1247
02:00:11,402 --> 02:00:12,200
Thank you.

1248
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:12,636
>> thank you very much.

1249
02:00:12,636 --> 02:00:14,905
All right.

1250
02:00:14,905 --> 02:00:28,150
Next we have 1532 blue sky towers

1251
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:29,953
.

1252
02:00:29,953 --> 02:00:36,760
>> we're getting closer and closer to food trucks and margaritaville and it's getting closer and closer to 5:00.

1253
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:44,100
>> I guess that's about perfect, isn't it?

1254
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:47,710
You know, I can work with grow services.

1255
02:00:47,404 --> 02:01:06,230
This is item number 15 .3.2 I think it is you know this is case number 260202 issued a special use permit request for a 225 foot tall telecommunication tower in a one general agriculture the location is est highway 40.

1256
02:01:06,223 --> 02:01:10,940
We'll get to it and property s ten acas.

1257
02:01:10,940 --> 02:01:21,805
We have sent out 35 letters and we received one letter of opposition which is why it's not on consent here you can see the location a little bit better.

1258
02:01:21,805 --> 02:01:35,386
It's west of 140th on the south side of the road over by rainbow park over just south of animal park.

1259
02:01:35,386 --> 02:01:36,860
Here's the land use.

1260
02:01:36,253 --> 02:01:41,905
You can see it's rural land which allows for one dwelling unit per ten acas and general agriculture zoning.

1261
02:01:41,905 --> 02:01:56,319
You look at the existing uses to the south there's mostly large lots that are agricultural production into te north is rural park which is a mixture of developed an undeveloped residential lots.

1262
02:01:56,319 --> 02:02:18,800
This is the proposed conceptual plan so they would have access coming off of highway 40 and then this second conceptual plan shows the fall radius within their leased area for the most part or think it goes outside a little bit right there but

1263
02:02:18,442 --> 02:02:32,589
on the fall radius would be within the developed within the parcel and at 225ft it would be required to have a light on top for faa purposes.

1264
02:02:32,589 --> 02:02:37,227
And the next map over here showing this will be read at night right?

1265
02:02:37,227 --> 02:02:37,694
>> yes, sir.

1266
02:02:37,694 --> 02:02:40,970
It would have to flash and we show that it right.

1267
02:02:40,530 --> 02:02:42,799
>> we do have a condition for shielding from the ground.

1268
02:02:42,799 --> 02:02:46,870
>> okay.

1269
02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:53,900
This is showing the distance to existing at&t towers.

1270
02:02:53,900 --> 02:03:00,830
There's a five miles 4.7 miles, 3.5 and 3.3 miles and we would have the current coverage for at&t.

1271
02:03:00,650 --> 02:03:05,550
As you can see right here the applicant is showing that there's a gap in service.

1272
02:03:05,550 --> 02:03:11,940
This is showing how that service would be covered.

1273
02:03:11,428 --> 02:03:15,532
Currently the site is wooded and undeveloped.

1274
02:03:15,532 --> 02:03:18,769
>> this is for two hundred 25 foot tower and a1 general agriculture.

1275
02:03:18,769 --> 02:03:32,549
>> it is allowed to be requested for special use permit at least space would be 30 600 square foot but an eight foot security fence around it and would be lit and staff is recommending approval.

1276
02:03:32,549 --> 02:03:37,540
What conditions we can go through the conditions if you would like but I believe the applicant is here for sure.

1277
02:03:37,220 --> 02:03:48,899
>> you have any questions of the commission's or the conditions applicant here from on now and an address for the record please.

1278
02:03:48,899 --> 02:03:56,730
>> good afternoon mary soul at 121 south orange avenue suite 1500 orlando, lorida I am the applicant and I'm legal counsel for blue sky towers.

1279
02:03:56,339 --> 02:04:03,647
Let's say to ramos with blue sky is with me here today we are in agreement with all of the conditions of approval.

1280
02:04:03,647 --> 02:04:04,815
We meet all of your code requirements.

1281
02:04:04,815 --> 02:04:07,951
Do you have any questions for me?

1282
02:04:07,951 --> 02:04:08,510
We don't need water.

1283
02:04:08,485 --> 02:04:10,821
We don't need sewer.

1284
02:04:10,821 --> 02:04:11,880
We don't have any trailers.

1285
02:04:11,455 --> 02:04:15,920
I think we're I think we have followed the letter of the law.

1286
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:17,894
>> thank you, ma'am.

1287
02:04:17,894 --> 02:04:19,329
>> I'm glad that many attorneys have a sense of humor.

1288
02:04:19,329 --> 02:04:21,965
I do.

1289
02:04:21,965 --> 02:04:22,799
>> you have to have one.

1290
02:04:22,799 --> 02:04:23,433
So we appreciate that.

1291
02:04:23,433 --> 02:04:23,834
That's great.

1292
02:04:23,834 --> 02:04:30,176
Hey, by the way, we need one at&t tower just east of silver springs.

1293
02:04:30,176 --> 02:04:30,810
>> all right.

1294
02:04:30,810 --> 02:04:31,440
Okay.

1295
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:38,418
Was it is on it it goes that every time we the people drive through there and our citizens complain if you can get it up and going, w'd appreciate it.

1296
02:04:38,418 --> 02:04:38,751
>> okay.

1297
02:04:38,751 --> 02:04:39,118
All right.

1298
02:04:39,118 --> 02:04:52,932
Any questions for I'd love a chance to respond to any citizens who yeah think we'll do that anyone in the public want to speak I this the only other question we had and just to make sure lighting right at night yeah consistent with faa yes thank

1299
02:04:52,932 --> 02:04:56,350
you any other questions or comments?

1300
02:04:56,269 --> 02:04:57,360
>> commissioners will take a motion.

1301
02:04:57,336 --> 02:05:01,400
Motion to approve a motion to approve by commissioner bryant second seconded by commissioner curry.

1302
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:08,810
>> all in favor signify by saying I opposed think that passes unanimously.

1303
02:05:08,810 --> 02:05:11,170
>> thank you for doing everything you're supposed to do.

1304
02:05:11,170 --> 02:05:12,510
Can we all right before we go into this one.

1305
02:05:12,385 --> 02:05:12,819
>> all right.

1306
02:05:12,819 --> 02:05:15,955
Hey guys, we're going to we're going to be food trucks next man.

1307
02:05:15,955 --> 02:05:19,726
>> so we're going to take five minutes.

1308
02:05:19,726 --> 02:05:24,864
>> we're going to the restroom so we can buckle in for this exciting moment.

1309
02:05:24,864 --> 02:05:25,980
>> buckle in.

1310
02:05:25,431 --> 02:05:38,963
You like .

1311
02:05:38,963 --> 02:05:40,970
We're not playing again though, right?

1312
02:05:40,970 --> 02:05:40,970
We're just going.

1313
02:05:40,631 --> 02:05:40,865
Yeah.

1314
02:05:40,865 --> 02:05:42,500
All right.

1315
02:05:42,500 --> 02:05:44,800
>> gracious.

1316
02:05:50,410 --> 02:05:50,641
Obviously.

1317
02:05:50,641 --> 02:06:10,795
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to to bed we women to 1533 kick it off all right and we walk across services this is item 15 .3.3 is case number 260204 issued is a special use permit request for a permanent food truck park and b one

1318
02:06:10,795 --> 02:06:13,464
zoning on 2.02 acas.

1319
02:06:13,464 --> 02:06:21,500
The applicants are carla garcia and walter pimentel.

1320
02:06:21,500 --> 02:06:28,790
We have notified 47 folks that says here's opposition in the zero but that's not true.

1321
02:06:28,312 --> 02:06:38,738
We have a a petition with over 100 signatures on it from residents within the neighborhood to the north tropicana villas village.

1322
02:06:38,738 --> 02:06:48,147
>> these villas well see the village so the location here is on highway 44 just east of southeast 47th avenue.

1323
02:06:48,147 --> 02:06:58,570
There's a dollar general on the northeast quadrant and this is adjacent to the dollar general .

1324
02:06:58,570 --> 02:07:14,807
It s inside of the urban growth boundary just barely and the intended use is for a permanent food truck park with up to 24 food trucks.

1325
02:07:14,807 --> 02:07:19,112
But but here we can see the surrounding area.

1326
02:07:19,112 --> 02:07:37,530
There is commercial here to the west which is the dollar general and then to the south there's also a little bit of commercial to the north is the tropicana village residential community and into the west and south you have other residential

1327
02:07:37,530 --> 02:07:55,782
communities and to the far east over here and the belleview area is an industrial commercial park coming in future land use is commercial and the zoning is b one hich allows for restaurants but no drive thrus and everything must be completely

1328
02:07:55,782 --> 02:08:02,880
indoors and as it is intended to serve neighborhoods, here's some site photos.

1329
02:08:02,689 --> 02:08:19,205
This is the location the actual property here and this site this part this one right here is looking through north into the vacant parcel.

1330
02:08:19,205 --> 02:08:26,112
>> basically you can see the the dollar general here and then the gas station across the street.

1331
02:08:26,112 --> 02:08:34,520
Here's the proposed site plan originally the request was for 24 food trucks is the applicant did back it down to 21.

1332
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:53,573
One key note here is anything above 15 food trucks would require a full traffic study a 15 food trucks and below is a traffic assessment and they are proposing 120 seats within the facility with a dining hall and permanent restrooms with parking

1333
02:08:53,573 --> 02:09:12,525
of 60 spaces and on the site plan here they're showing two two buffers the first one being 25 foot with a six foot vinyl fence and the second being another 25ft with a nother six foot vinyl fence.

1334
02:09:12,525 --> 02:09:29,714
One thing to note here is this site plan does not account for stormwater if approved they would need a place to put heir stormwater and it's likely that it would be pointers not working today very well likely would be in the buffer rea so that

1335
02:09:29,714 --> 02:09:52,904
needs to be taken into account if this is approved when it comes to access the applicant would like access here where there's an existing apron curb cut for on highway 44 however stuff does not like that access code they would need to come in

1336
02:09:52,904 --> 02:10:01,546
through on southeast fourth avenue come through the dollar general and through parallel access and enter the site that way.

1337
02:10:01,546 --> 02:10:19,797
One issue here this does not this this access does not meet the distance between access points for measurement and also you have the merge lane coming in from from belleview that is like right here at the end of the property and that would be

1338
02:10:19,797 --> 02:10:26,104
potentially a very dangerous access point.

1339
02:10:26,104 --> 02:10:45,560
Here's he site with the site plan on it showing the growing the access through dollar general when we compare this to other restaurants we're looking at a high turnover sit down restaurant.

1340
02:10:45,323 --> 02:11:07,545
They might get what 142 seats they get 55 peak hour trips in the evening fast food with a drive through with 103 seats but get 99.9 peak hour trips and then you can see here when we calculate the different food trucks at nine food trucks 5,

1341
02:11:07,545 --> 02:11:31,502
1592 and then at 0 food trucks you get 123 123 premium peak hour trips that's comparable to more of a fast food restaurant when you come nto the the pm peak hour trips when parking looking at the required parking staff broke it down to something

1342
02:11:31,502 --> 02:11:46,500
comparable to a food truck park like in osceola county which is right here they have for food for for parking spaces for the first vehicle and then two spaces for each additional vehicle beyond that .

1343
02:11:46,284 --> 02:12:02,600
And here a proposed 120 seats and of 20 food trucks they would need t least 42 parking spaces and they're offering 60 .

1344
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:19,634
>> it is one when we look at utilities, the water sewer is about 1000ft away and they are within connection distance to the city of belleview central water and central waste sewer water, sewer lines.

1345
02:12:19,634 --> 02:12:38,860
The applicant I believe just not want to connect to centralized water sewer looking at planning principles within the rugby his would allow for a mix of land ses to create compact commercial areas and employment hubs that would strengthen and

1346
02:12:38,853 --> 02:12:45,994
direct development towards existing communities and foster distinct and communities.

1347
02:12:45,994 --> 02:12:49,130
That's what staff's analysis found.

1348
02:12:49,130 --> 02:12:56,504
So with that said we have found that it on its face it would not affect would not adversely affect a public interest.

1349
02:12:56,504 --> 02:13:01,609
It is consistent with a comprehensive plan and may e or would be compatible with the surrounding area.

1350
02:13:01,609 --> 02:13:11,850
We're recommending approval would conditions pnc had no recommendation they had a33 tie .

1351
02:13:11,653 --> 02:13:25,990
One of the limitations staff has is that the food trucks would be late we're sorry limited to 15 instead of the full 2020 or 24 and that we have hours of operation.

1352
02:13:25,667 --> 02:13:29,103
We have other conditions if you'd like to go through that.

1353
02:13:29,103 --> 02:13:39,800
>> the applicant is here if you'd like to talk to him and then of course any questions for staff if not the applicant here, come on down.

1354
02:13:39,514 --> 02:13:54,225
>> name and address for the record tell us your plan

1355
02:14:04,772 --> 02:14:05,173
.

1356
02:14:05,173 --> 02:14:08,176
Well, first of all, good afternoon, your honor.

1357
02:14:08,176 --> 02:14:13,314
Their honorary commission and everyone I showed up today.

1358
02:14:13,314 --> 02:14:17,652
>> believe it or not I am very thankful for everyone showing another name for the oh yeah, of course.

1359
02:14:17,652 --> 02:14:18,190
I'm orry.

1360
02:14:18,190 --> 02:14:19,620
I'm going ahead of myself here.

1361
02:14:19,620 --> 02:14:20,621
Walter five four, six, six.

1362
02:14:20,621 --> 02:14:24,325
>> blue azura drive.

1363
02:14:24,325 --> 02:14:24,726
Why mama?

1364
02:14:24,726 --> 02:14:25,126
Florida 33598.

1365
02:14:25,126 --> 02:14:25,593
Thank you, sir.

1366
02:14:25,593 --> 02:14:27,862
Yeah, of course.

1367
02:14:27,862 --> 02:14:28,960
>> give us last name.

1368
02:14:28,663 --> 02:14:31,990
Last name pimental p I am ncl perfect.

1369
02:14:31,933 --> 02:14:32,400
>> thank you.

1370
02:14:32,400 --> 02:14:32,867
Yes, of course.

1371
02:14:32,867 --> 02:14:35,136
Yes, sir.

1372
02:14:35,136 --> 02:14:42,110
>> so what I do like about this proposal it is very open ended .

1373
02:14:42,110 --> 02:15:00,795
I'm open to anything really and I really do want to make a holistically comprehensive plan and development one that works for the surrounding communities, one that works for the greater region f course and of course one that follows health in

1374
02:15:00,795 --> 02:15:04,699
development code and all the governing bodies in our region.

1375
02:15:04,699 --> 02:15:24,910
Originally we had a proposal to have a playground for all the kids in the area and all of our visitors our ommunity behind us voiced their concern about noise after certain hour that playground was going to have a fence around it nd it was going

1376
02:15:24,158 --> 02:15:24,591
to be closed.

1377
02:15:24,591 --> 02:15:38,720
The fence and the playground itself 20 minutes before closing but in light and in lieu of what everyone has voiced like said, it is a very open ended project and I'm very open minded to everything and the concerns of our community.

1378
02:15:38,706 --> 02:15:57,958
We've gotten rid of the playground itself on top of that we've gone ahead and we've done two buffers to 25 foot buffers which I don't want to speak for everyone but that's that's a pretty big buffer and it's a total of 50 50 foot buffer approximately

1379
02:15:57,958 --> 02:16:08,735
14,000ft2 of buffer area and I'm proposing two different fences one at the 25 foot mark and one at a 50 foot mark as well.

1380
02:16:08,735 --> 02:16:18,450
We have brought down the the amount of proposed food trucks to 2024 could add traffic to the area.

1381
02:16:18,278 --> 02:16:34,940
So obviously we're very cautious like I said, we are down to 20 and ithin our market study and our business study 20 is what we need to operate within business sense and business bounds.

1382
02:16:34,294 --> 02:16:41,535
Like said we are a full operational we plan on being there for for a while for decades to come.

1383
02:16:41,535 --> 02:17:02,723
This is a heavy investment obviously not $24 million like the previous gentleman I'm just a kid that grew up in a low income family and worked his way up in the world and intend to keep it so it's about 600,000 as far as development costs go

1384
02:17:02,723 --> 02:17:06,893
and I mean for someone like me or someone like us that's pretty half the amount we are.

1385
02:17:06,893 --> 02:17:14,601
We know we understand that all of the conditions are public that would deter most developers and most entrepreneurs.

1386
02:17:14,601 --> 02:17:15,202
That's one we welcome.

1387
02:17:15,202 --> 02:17:18,338
Actually there probably can.

1388
02:17:18,338 --> 02:17:27,347
The reason we didn't run away from it is because we had good intention and we need to do well and we plan on being there for or decades to come like I said.

1389
02:17:27,347 --> 02:17:35,455
>> and of course the investment itself that's not monopoly money for us that's a real investment and down could drag us into the hole if we're not successful.

1390
02:17:35,455 --> 02:17:49,636
So having said that, we do have nothing but great intentions on being there for while and complying not just with the conditions but also with ongoing and rolling concerns for the community we intend on having an office which will be open to

1391
02:17:49,636 --> 02:17:57,711
the public and very accessible a lot of the members of our community behind us they have my phone number, they have my email.

1392
02:17:57,711 --> 02:17:58,780
I'm very accessible.

1393
02:17:58,296 --> 02:18:00,332
I'll be there all the time.

1394
02:18:00,332 --> 02:18:15,313
They can come and talk to me whenever any concern that I can take care of in the future I will do so in a comprehensive way the way I've been doing it so far it is of no that this project has a predecessor.

1395
02:18:15,313 --> 02:18:26,958
I don't talk negatively of anyone as a predecessor and we intend on picking that up and doing it the right way not taking a single shortcut.

1396
02:18:26,958 --> 02:18:27,792
We have not taken a shortcut.

1397
02:18:27,792 --> 02:18:41,873
This has been a very arduous, very tough and challenging process where we you know, it's a business but we have to meet all of the development and health codes and then of course we all have to meet in the middle and we've been doing this for

1398
02:18:41,873 --> 02:18:42,407
quite some time now.

1399
02:18:42,407 --> 02:18:46,745
Like I said, we're very formal and want to be there for quite a long time.

1400
02:18:46,745 --> 02:18:57,288
>> we will be employing about 7 or 8 employees that would be property management employees, maintenance crew and janitorial crew.

1401
02:18:57,288 --> 02:19:09,000
We intend on keeping the property clean all the time and really whenever we're open before we're open, after we're done with the day's operation, we intend to be in cleveland all at once.

1402
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:19,744
We will we will have a management company taking care of the place, making sure we're always up to par with all the conditions that have been placed upon us.

1403
02:19:19,744 --> 02:19:32,900
>> with that being said, I do want to make a note that the hours of operation the proposed hours of operation are monday through thursday from 10 to 9 p.m., 10 a.m.

1404
02:19:32,900 --> 02:19:32,900
To 9 p.m.

1405
02:19:32,457 --> 02:19:44,970
And I did that because I know there's a retirement community behind us and they're retired and that is our sleep and in lieu of that I brought up the 10 a.m.

1406
02:19:44,970 --> 02:19:46,738
Opening hours monday through thursday 10 a.m.

1407
02:19:46,738 --> 02:19:47,500
At 9 p.m.

1408
02:19:47,238 --> 02:19:50,800
Friday and saturday 10 a.m.

1409
02:19:50,275 --> 02:19:50,675
To 9:30 p.m.

1410
02:19:50,675 --> 02:19:52,777
And then sunday 10 a.m.

1411
02:19:52,777 --> 02:19:53,780
To 8:30 p.m..

1412
02:19:53,211 --> 02:20:07,192
I think those are pretty comprehensive hours again as part of a holistic strategy of making sure that we take care of our community not just the whole region because I know the whole region is going to want to be there but our community as a

1413
02:20:07,192 --> 02:20:15,567
whole as well our surrounding community we will have ada compliant bathrooms two of them one for a gentleman, one for ladies.

1414
02:20:15,567 --> 02:20:26,778
We will have four handicapped parking spots with an aisle so that our community with special needs may enjoy our place as well.

1415
02:20:26,778 --> 02:20:41,960
Obviously we're going to have ramps around the dining hall, the bathrooms so that the whole place is accessible to everyone and we care very much about the flow and interface between our patrons and the place itself and I think we've done a

1416
02:20:41,960 --> 02:20:44,663
pretty good job of creating one that does that.

1417
02:20:44,663 --> 02:20:59,850
Having said that, our food vendors are to be inspected periodic periodically and actually I'm the one to impose this periodically by the health and fire department as mandated by applicable restaurant industry standards.

1418
02:20:59,519 --> 02:21:18,271
We will have a victorian era style they saw it victorian era style sidewalk lamp placed in front of every food vendor along the sidewalks an ornamental tree planted near each corner of the dining hall all of the different variety we want this

1419
02:21:18,271 --> 02:21:22,475
place to be different everywhere you look and unique in every angle 20 varied food

1420
02:21:22,475 --> 02:21:22,642
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique in every angle 20 varied food-

1421
02:21:22,642 --> 02:21:22,709
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors angle 20 varied food-

1422
02:21:22,709 --> 02:21:22,775
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and le 20 varied food-

1423
02:21:22,775 --> 02:21:22,809
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it 20 varied food-

1424
02:21:22,809 --> 02:21:22,875
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it is varied food-

1425
02:21:22,875 --> 02:21:23,900
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it is of ied food-

1426
02:21:23,900 --> 02:21:23,900
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it is of no food-

1427
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:23,760
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it is of no that -

1428
02:21:23,209 --> 02:21:29,482
want this place to be different everywhere you look and unique vendors and it is of no that we will be searching for american cuisine before we go abroad.

1429
02:21:29,482 --> 02:21:47,330
I'm one of the biggest patrons will ever be america first at all times and it's nothing personal but we will be looking for a new england coastal cuisine texas barbecue creative hamburger waste cuisine louisiana cajun cuisine pizzeria pennsylvania

1430
02:21:47,330 --> 02:21:48,100
dutch cuisine pastry and coffee shop.

1431
02:21:48,100 --> 02:22:00,980
>> and then of course we will start going abroad asian cuisine, mexican cuisine, caribbean cuisine, central and south american cuisine and european vendors among many others.

1432
02:22:00,980 --> 02:22:18,964
One of our main one of my main one of our main goals here is to be very varied have a lot of variety, make sure there's no too many of one thing because we want to place everyone in our region and we do have a special a few special considerations

1433
02:22:18,964 --> 02:22:23,502
in mind given the fact that I'm just here every day american I'm not a corporation.

1434
02:22:23,502 --> 02:22:24,360
I do not come from money.

1435
02:22:24,236 --> 02:22:31,978
I have worked my way up from a mobile home where ten of us live and that's where I come from.

1436
02:22:31,978 --> 02:22:44,657
So in lieu of that I would like to have the following special considerations we asked that we may have an initial in period of five years instead of three.

1437
02:22:44,657 --> 02:23:02,375
This is due to the time period it will take to permit, construct and finally open to our community and also due to the formal and sizable investment that we will make upon for development we asset in consideration of the 50 foot buffer and its

1438
02:23:02,375 --> 02:23:11,984
two line of fences one at the 25 foot mark and one at the 50 foot mark that we may be given a waiver for the mason wall.

1439
02:23:11,984 --> 02:23:28,534
It is of note that we are also proposing a chain link fence at the very front and sides of the whole compound for safekeeping and to be able to close the entry gate to public access 20 minutes before closing so that way we ensure that we are

1440
02:23:28,534 --> 02:23:32,104
following what we propose at all times.

1441
02:23:32,104 --> 02:23:37,910
It ill be like clockwork 20 minutes before closing time no one else will be allowed in, will be allowed in.

1442
02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:54,790
This is a one way driveway so the entry get will be closed 20 minutes before closing time and again those are pretty comprehensive and very limited hours but alas something that I'm willing to work with we ask that we are able to get the here's

1443
02:23:54,146 --> 02:23:56,480
the bill the boogeyman that always keeps coming back.

1444
02:23:56,448 --> 02:24:08,660
We asked that we are able to connect to a water well with a filtration system and a septic tank for the first five years we asked that we are able to connect to our local water and sewer systems between year five and six.

1445
02:24:08,660 --> 02:24:28,313
This is obviously as part of a five year business plan as right now the closest per the city of belleview, the closest connection point for both water and sewer sewage are at 1006 hundred and 30ft.

1446
02:24:28,313 --> 02:24:29,147
>> that's 1630ft.

1447
02:24:29,147 --> 02:24:33,850
That's I mean that's pretty cost prohibitive for any corporation.

1448
02:24:33,285 --> 02:24:47,733
Never mind someone like ourselves at this point in water sewer connection of this magnitude is understandably cost prohibitive worth it is cost prohibitive for us and that is of note that I myself proposed and insisted on providing clean water

1449
02:24:47,733 --> 02:24:51,360
for the greater safety of our community.

1450
02:24:51,360 --> 02:25:08,860
For this project's very inception we will be providing water to all of the food vendors and we will also be clean water of course and we will also be providing electrical hookups 30 amp 50 amp hookups that way there is virtually zero noise coming

1451
02:25:08,353 --> 02:25:16,940
out of our compound that is 50ft of buffer space two separate fences that is no not a single generator site.

1452
02:25:16,928 --> 02:25:34,713
Everything will be underground electric joint underground infrastructure that is very expensive as revenue up our cost but I'll be this is something we're okay with because again we re here to do right by the community and if you want to you

1453
02:25:34,713 --> 02:25:48,994
know if people talk about traffic okay is now the number two most moved to region in the whole country I can't stop it no of course not that developers are developing left and right.

1454
02:25:48,994 --> 02:25:49,940
We can't stop that at all.

1455
02:25:49,728 --> 02:25:52,970
So as far as traffic goes, I do apologize.

1456
02:25:52,731 --> 02:25:55,467
There's not much any of us in the area could do about that.

1457
02:25:55,467 --> 02:26:10,549
What I can do is mitigate noise which I completely have mitigate buffering which not many actually implement more buffering which I completely have done and we're going to be providing clean water electricity with no noise where we providing

1458
02:26:10,549 --> 02:26:26,980
park service that is a centralized company, a centralized subcontractor company by ourselves by the management company company that guarantees that all the trucks are pumped out at the right time and it's done in a professional manner.

1459
02:26:26,431 --> 02:26:35,830
We're not going to let anyone just do what they want to do the dining hall itself was and actually I did the scientist myself I did take a little bit credit for that.

1460
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:35,830
I'm not an architect.

1461
02:26:35,650 --> 02:26:40,888
I'm not a civil engineer so the scientist myself and I designed a second one myself as well.

1462
02:26:40,888 --> 02:26:52,500
The what we're looking at now and the goal of the dining hall is to control the flow and the movement of the whole place and to make sure that it is always clean and sanitize from the center out.

1463
02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:55,690
And this also does make it easier on us.

1464
02:26:55,403 --> 02:26:58,873
>> we're looking to build eight bathrooms.

1465
02:26:58,873 --> 02:27:03,770
That's what was recommended by the county and that's what we will be doing.

1466
02:27:03,770 --> 02:27:19,600
And let's see ere we have all the easements necessary 20 foot by front of 50ft buffer on the north side towards tropicana village and we would like a special consideration for the entrance at 484.

1467
02:27:19,493 --> 02:27:26,300
I'm not going to go further into detail whether it's just a developer or another one.

1468
02:27:26,300 --> 02:27:44,850
I think a special consideration should be given the fact that the lep at dollar general it's not the biggest as everyone here knows it is pretty congested as it is a lot of delivery trucks have trouble coming in and out and the last thing I

1469
02:27:44,719 --> 02:28:03,237
would want is a kid an emergency vehicle got her better as an emergency to not be able to get through because because of the bottleneck effect that this cross access will create and besides that just five years where the water well with a filtration

1470
02:28:03,237 --> 02:28:18,190
system a proper septic tank I was hearing about the specific requirements you guys were talking about with their previous gentlemen we're okay with that between year five and six we will go ahead and take o 2630ft endeavor.

1471
02:28:18,190 --> 02:28:21,220
We're not against that at all.

1472
02:28:21,220 --> 02:28:24,492
We just need the financing capacity to do it.

1473
02:28:24,492 --> 02:28:29,630
We're not looking to avoid, evade and take any shortcuts we have not done that at all.

1474
02:28:29,630 --> 02:28:39,240
We have done this n a proper manner by gathering everyone here today and the last during the last meeting I wasn't as we payers today I didn't know what the concerns were going to be.

1475
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:54,422
I think I've taken a pretty holistic approach at making sure that we meet the county's demands of our local communities demands and I mean I'm sure as heck this is going to meet all of our regional demands.

1476
02:28:54,422 --> 02:29:02,630
A lot of people have messaged me, a lot of people have called me and support unfortunately fortunately because of the 2:00 time a lot of them are at work.

1477
02:29:02,330 --> 02:29:04,565
They can't be here today.

1478
02:29:04,565 --> 02:29:17,780
Having said that, I appreciate the county for having given me this opportunity to be here and I appreciate everyone who has shown up and has been very civil and that's the way I intended to be at all times.

1479
02:29:17,244 --> 02:29:17,845
>> thank you so much.

1480
02:29:17,845 --> 02:29:19,513
Thank you.

1481
02:29:19,513 --> 02:29:20,147
Yeah.

1482
02:29:20,147 --> 02:29:23,918
All right, commissioners, any questions?

1483
02:29:23,918 --> 02:29:24,952
>> we'll take public comment first.

1484
02:29:24,952 --> 02:29:25,190
Yes.

1485
02:29:25,186 --> 02:29:28,900
Do you own the property or is it subject to I'm sorry, sir.

1486
02:29:28,900 --> 02:29:30,845
Do you own the property now?

1487
02:29:30,845 --> 02:29:31,713
>> my auntie and I own it.

1488
02:29:31,713 --> 02:29:33,448
Yes, sir.

1489
02:29:33,448 --> 02:29:34,490
Yeah.

1490
02:29:34,490 --> 02:29:34,549
>> all right.

1491
02:29:34,549 --> 02:29:34,783
Yeah.

1492
02:29:34,783 --> 02:29:35,216
All right.

1493
02:29:35,216 --> 02:29:46,961
Ladies and gentlemen, I do have a list of if you would just sit here if you come up if you'll take notes or try to answer the questions of the people the best you can when you come back.

1494
02:29:46,961 --> 02:29:47,280
Okay?

1495
02:29:47,228 --> 02:29:47,562
Yes, sir.

1496
02:29:47,562 --> 02:29:49,497
All right.

1497
02:29:49,497 --> 02:29:56,237
We're going to take public comments so the way this is going to work as we get into these bigger, you know, hearings where we have multiple people signed up.

1498
02:29:56,237 --> 02:29:57,500
I'm going to call your ames out.

1499
02:29:57,439 --> 02:29:58,673
I'm going to call them out 2 or 3 at a time.

1500
02:29:58,673 --> 02:29:59,507
Okay.

1501
02:29:59,507 --> 02:30:00,508
So we have two podiums.

1502
02:30:00,508 --> 02:30:01,142
You come to both podiums.

1503
02:30:01,142 --> 02:30:05,460
I'm also call the next person on deck so you know you're on deck.

1504
02:30:05,347 --> 02:30:05,580
Okay.

1505
02:30:05,580 --> 02:30:08,383
And we're going to rotate through this as fast as we can.

1506
02:30:08,383 --> 02:30:12,187
We don't take comments from the from the audience.

1507
02:30:12,187 --> 02:30:12,620
All right.

1508
02:30:12,620 --> 02:30:15,924
Pamela newell yes.

1509
02:30:15,924 --> 02:30:16,910
Come on down.

1510
02:30:16,458 --> 02:30:23,640
Randy steward, margaret cardenas, you'll be on deck.

1511
02:30:23,640 --> 02:30:23,640
All right.

1512
02:30:23,431 --> 02:30:27,836
If you come down to the podium name, address, record remember this is a quasi judicial hearing.

1513
02:30:27,836 --> 02:30:30,839
We need to hear three things.

1514
02:30:30,839 --> 02:30:32,730
Is it compatible with the comp plan?

1515
02:30:32,730 --> 02:30:35,210
Is it in the public interest and is it compatible with the surrounding areas?

1516
02:30:35,210 --> 02:30:39,147
This is the decision and the legal decision that the county commission can make.

1517
02:30:39,147 --> 02:30:42,517
>> yes, ma'am.

1518
02:30:42,517 --> 02:30:43,218
Cme to this podium, don.

1519
02:30:43,218 --> 02:30:43,585
Yes, ma'am.

1520
02:30:43,585 --> 02:30:43,985
Go ahead.

1521
02:30:43,985 --> 02:30:46,540
Name and address.

1522
02:30:46,540 --> 02:30:46,588
>> good afternoon.

1523
02:30:46,588 --> 02:30:50,910
Thank you, commissioners, for letting me speak.

1524
02:30:50,910 --> 02:30:51,590
My name is pamela noel and I live in tropicana village.

1525
02:30:51,459 --> 02:30:54,950
I'd like to summarize the traffic impact analysis for this project.

1526
02:30:54,496 --> 02:30:57,198
>> address darlin.

1527
02:30:57,198 --> 02:30:57,999
Name address please.

1528
02:30:57,999 --> 02:31:04,139
>> address 13350 southeast 49th court belleview, florida 34420.

1529
02:31:04,139 --> 02:31:04,572
>> perfect.

1530
02:31:04,572 --> 02:31:07,542
Thank you so much.

1531
02:31:07,542 --> 02:31:10,879
>> I'd like o summarize the traffic impact analysis for this project.

1532
02:31:10,879 --> 02:31:11,790
What's missing?

1533
02:31:11,346 --> 02:31:16,451
There is no published f d o t marion county safety audit specifically for this intersection.

1534
02:31:16,451 --> 02:31:25,894
>> that means no official crash rate calculations, no signal warrant analysis and no engineering determinations for this site.

1535
02:31:25,894 --> 02:31:37,472
Study shows this site is expected to germinate generate 160 plus trips during peak hours which means we must carefully manage how traffic uses the exits and property.

1536
02:31:37,472 --> 02:31:44,412
Where were the key intersections on county road or 84 and 47th avenue?

1537
02:31:44,412 --> 02:31:48,490
Well they seemed to handle the additional volume mitigation on these roads are required.

1538
02:31:48,483 --> 02:31:55,957
>> this includes turn and lane improvements and signal timing adjustments to maintain safe and efficient flow.

1539
02:31:55,957 --> 02:32:03,832
>> also reviewed is access management making sure driveway spacing and site distance meet county standards.

1540
02:32:03,832 --> 02:32:08,690
Proper spacing is essential to reduce conflict points and keep traffic moving safely inside the site.

1541
02:32:08,303 --> 02:32:26,898
The layout must prevent stacking meaning vehicles cannot be allowed to back p on county road for a 47 avenue adequate road up clear site length and internal irculation design will ensure traffic stays within the site and does not spill on to

1542
02:32:26,898 --> 02:32:29,468
the roadway.

1543
02:32:29,468 --> 02:32:31,690
I oppose the food truck park in this location.

1544
02:32:31,690 --> 02:32:34,720
Thank you again for this time.

1545
02:32:34,239 --> 02:32:40,378
>> so just so you know and for the rest of the audience I know you're asking about some of the traffic concerns they would have to do a complete traffic study.

1546
02:32:40,378 --> 02:32:42,470
They would have to if it got approved.

1547
02:32:42,347 --> 02:32:42,614
Right.

1548
02:32:42,614 --> 02:32:46,985
They would have to make those accommodations as our staff has already recommend.

1549
02:32:46,985 --> 02:32:54,459
I'm assuming the county engineer his office that that a entrance off directly off a 44 at that curve would be dangerous.

1550
02:32:54,459 --> 02:33:08,606
So I think that our staff would recommend probably against that and that's why they're saying hey you probably need to go through the cross access easement through dollar general but what all of those things would get handled in a traffic study

1551
02:33:08,606 --> 02:33:09,874
just if it did get approved.

1552
02:33:09,874 --> 02:33:10,976
>> and that would be for anybody's case.

1553
02:33:10,976 --> 02:33:16,810
Yeah, whenever we do a development they have to meet those land development code regulations.

1554
02:33:16,715 --> 02:33:17,480
>> thank you again.

1555
02:33:17,282 --> 02:33:17,649
All right.

1556
02:33:17,649 --> 02:33:21,152
The next person on deck would be mark barton.

1557
02:33:21,152 --> 02:33:21,753
>> yes, ma'am.

1558
02:33:21,753 --> 02:33:31,963
My name is margaret guardian at 4812 southeast 100th place belleview in tropicana village.

1559
02:33:31,963 --> 02:33:36,670
>> I want to focus on one core issue the pedestrian safety and legal compliance.

1560
02:33:36,534 --> 02:33:44,142
The intersection of southeast highway 44 and southeast 47th avenue is a high speed multi-lane highway.

1561
02:33:44,142 --> 02:33:58,990
>> it has no pedestrian crosswalks, no pedestrian signals, imited sidewalks, poor lighting, no refuge lanes and a documented history of pedestrian fatalities.

1562
02:33:58,990 --> 02:34:11,336
Under florida department of transportation rules, pedestrians are expected on all state roadways unless it is a limited access highway one pedestrian infrastructure is not provided.

1563
02:34:11,336 --> 02:34:15,607
Fda requires formal design variation and there are only three allowable reasons.

1564
02:34:15,607 --> 02:34:23,915
>> none of those apply here especially when pedestrian oriented business like a food truck park is being introduced.

1565
02:34:23,915 --> 02:34:27,886
>> this project would increase pedestrian traffic, not reduce it.

1566
02:34:27,886 --> 02:34:35,600
>> there is also the americans with disabilities act to consider ada is a civil rights law.

1567
02:34:35,226 --> 02:34:46,471
If pedestrians are expected and they will be then accessible routes curb rants continuous sidewalks lighting safe crossing with signals are legally required.

1568
02:34:46,471 --> 02:34:50,750
This intersection is not ada compliant.

1569
02:34:50,408 --> 02:34:58,450
This location is especially dangerous at night during peak dining hours and when families and children are present.

1570
02:34:58,450 --> 02:35:03,121
High speeds multi lanes and turning traffic create a serious risk of injury or death.

1571
02:35:03,121 --> 02:35:13,399
>> in closing, think of this as a car and truck dominated highway where you're about to inject a lot of pedestrian foot.

1572
02:35:13,399 --> 02:35:14,467
>> thank you for your time.

1573
02:35:14,467 --> 02:35:17,136
>> thank you, ma'am.

1574
02:35:17,136 --> 02:35:21,140
Gojo you'll be up next.

1575
02:35:21,140 --> 02:35:21,774
Yes, sir.

1576
02:35:21,774 --> 02:35:22,800
>> go ahead.

1577
02:35:22,208 --> 02:35:22,742
Name and address.

1578
02:35:22,742 --> 02:35:23,900
Okay.

1579
02:35:23,900 --> 02:35:25,311
Name randy stewart.

1580
02:35:25,311 --> 02:35:30,160
Address 13350 southeast 49th court belleview, florida.

1581
02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:34,720
My name is randy stewart and I want to thank you commissioners, for letting me speak.

1582
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:35,540
I served in the u.s.

1583
02:35:35,121 --> 02:35:38,724
Army under a secret clearance stationed at fort bragg, north carolina.

1584
02:35:38,724 --> 02:35:45,965
After leaving the army, I became a commercial diver performing duties for large corporations throughout the u.s..

1585
02:35:45,965 --> 02:35:48,567
I've owned my own construction company for 40 years.

1586
02:35:48,567 --> 02:35:56,142
The reason I'm getting into this I learned that details are the most important part of business and leadership positions.

1587
02:35:56,142 --> 02:35:56,609
Details ept me alive.

1588
02:35:56,609 --> 02:36:00,112
A stop lawsuits.

1589
02:36:00,112 --> 02:36:04,450
They protected employees and they helped design long lasting projects.

1590
02:36:04,450 --> 02:36:15,661
My concern for this food truck park our roads merging lanes, fire and ambulance access crosswalks at the lights truck and trailer parking congestion crime and accidents.

1591
02:36:15,661 --> 02:36:23,690
We in tropicana village are not against the business we're just against the food truck park.

1592
02:36:23,690 --> 02:36:36,349
>> we hope that all the details are considered to achieve the findings for the proper decisions not for revenue alone but for the safety of communities vehicle and road safety, public safety and safety in general.

1593
02:36:36,349 --> 02:36:50,290
>> being mindful as well of the marion county growth, we asked the good commissioners what are our assurances that all of the rules, regulations and statutes will be followed?

1594
02:36:50,290 --> 02:36:50,960
At the I-75 food truck park.

1595
02:36:50,863 --> 02:36:55,670
It's now closed down because they didn't follow these rules logs and regulations.

1596
02:36:55,301 --> 02:37:06,646
>> here is the paperwork containing the findings that we all from tropicana came up with and I'd like to give these to the carmel county commissioners.

1597
02:37:06,646 --> 02:37:16,880
>> you can hand them to our county minister asthma and so anyway, I would just like to finish my time with this.

1598
02:37:16,489 --> 02:37:21,270
>> honestly, any business is we're not against the business.

1599
02:37:21,227 --> 02:37:24,797
It's just this business, this particular type.

1600
02:37:24,797 --> 02:37:24,897
we're not against the business. It's just this business, this particular type.-

1601
02:37:24,897 --> 02:37:24,930
we're not against the business. It's just this business, this >> ticular type.-

1602
02:37:24,930 --> 02:37:25,310
we're not against the business. It's just this business, this >> it ular type.-

1603
02:37:25,310 --> 02:37:25,310
we're not against the business. It's just this business, this >> it just type.-

1604
02:37:25,197 --> 02:37:29,168
we're not against the business. It's just this business, this >> it just addresses way too little and creates a lot of crime and different things.

1605
02:37:29,168 --> 02:37:33,390
So that's all I have to say.

1606
02:37:33,390 --> 02:37:36,275
>> thank you for.

1607
02:37:36,275 --> 02:37:36,676
All right.

1608
02:37:36,676 --> 02:37:37,430
Thank you.

1609
02:37:37,430 --> 02:37:37,430
Yes, sir.

1610
02:37:37,376 --> 02:37:39,545
You are up next.

1611
02:37:39,545 --> 02:37:40,790
>> name and address for the record.

1612
02:37:40,579 --> 02:37:43,182
And by the way, everybody everybody gets two minutes.

1613
02:37:43,182 --> 02:37:47,860
You'll see that the green light turns the yellow, right?

1614
02:37:47,286 --> 02:37:47,987
That means red is coming.

1615
02:37:47,987 --> 02:37:48,870
Red means stop.

1616
02:37:48,521 --> 02:37:48,754
Okay.

1617
02:37:48,754 --> 02:37:52,124
So that gives you your two minutes helps to guide you through this process.

1618
02:37:52,124 --> 02:37:53,793
>> yes, sir.

1619
02:37:53,793 --> 02:37:54,600
Okay.

1620
02:37:54,226 --> 02:38:03,336
>> my name is mark ryden and it's 13117 south east 49th court and belleview.

1621
02:38:03,336 --> 02:38:04,181
>> perfect.

1622
02:38:04,181 --> 02:38:04,515
>> okay.

1623
02:38:04,515 --> 02:38:08,819
I'd like to thank the commissioners for every seen everybody today.

1624
02:38:08,819 --> 02:38:11,488
I really appreciate that.

1625
02:38:11,488 --> 02:38:12,122
Okay.

1626
02:38:12,122 --> 02:38:22,499
The guidance for used oil grease from this charter 62710 are facilities with and p.

1627
02:38:22,499 --> 02:38:22,833
D.

1628
02:38:22,833 --> 02:38:47,524
S permits no person may discharge used oil on the ground septics in the sewers, septic tanks or any type of drainage oc must have a license to be a hauler to haul all this grease okay and self cleaners.

1629
02:38:47,524 --> 02:39:07,978
Section 4030741 regional it's the removal and transport its own grease as long as it's less than 55 gallons if they do it themselves haulers must have a license documentation for removal and disposal of the grease.

1630
02:39:07,978 --> 02:39:08,450
Okay.

1631
02:39:08,278 --> 02:39:23,930
A disposal facility must be permitted and certified to collect the grease must have a manifest of where the grease was picked up and where it's going.

1632
02:39:23,930 --> 02:39:24,280
>> okay, that's that's my say right there.

1633
02:39:24,194 --> 02:39:26,430
Ys, sir.

1634
02:39:26,430 --> 02:39:30,968
So so just so you know, I mean obviously we're not you know we're not in the food truck.

1635
02:39:30,968 --> 02:39:34,710
The county commission itself we're not in the food truck regulation business.

1636
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:39,900
They are licensed through the state of florida and those requirements will be held by the I believe the department of health.

1637
02:39:39,576 --> 02:39:42,460
Is that correct, tracy?

1638
02:39:42,279 --> 02:39:46,283
So so the department of health does the inspections on trucks.

1639
02:39:46,283 --> 02:39:50,688
They're the ones that make sure the manifest is correct that make sure all those things happen.

1640
02:39:50,688 --> 02:39:59,330
>> so if if any food truck parked anywhere ever got permitted the department of health would be the one just like the restaurant business, right?

1641
02:39:59,330 --> 02:40:07,504
They'd be the one regulating and making sure that they kept up with the grease and all the other health inspection items for food trucks and or restaurants.

1642
02:40:07,504 --> 02:40:07,838
>> okay.

1643
02:40:07,838 --> 02:40:08,872
For your information, thank you, sir.

1644
02:40:08,872 --> 02:40:12,420
I'm glad you explained that to everybody and I appreciate that.

1645
02:40:12,420 --> 02:40:13,430
>> I know there's lots of questions out there.

1646
02:40:13,277 --> 02:40:14,478
Okay.

1647
02:40:14,478 --> 02:40:15,312
Thank you.

1648
02:40:15,312 --> 02:40:15,512
>> mr.

1649
02:40:15,512 --> 02:40:17,881
Weston is up next.

1650
02:40:17,881 --> 02:40:18,515
Sanley.

1651
02:40:18,515 --> 02:40:22,586
Yes, sir.

1652
02:40:22,586 --> 02:40:23,870
>> good afternoon.

1653
02:40:23,870 --> 02:40:23,870
My name is scott jewell.

1654
02:40:23,654 --> 02:40:28,659
I live at 13031 southeast 49th court.

1655
02:40:28,659 --> 02:40:40,104
I recently retired from the federal government as an environmental safety and compliance administrator for the past 20 years with the department f justice.

1656
02:40:40,104 --> 02:40:43,730
>> we are an adult community that has been in existence since 1986.

1657
02:40:43,407 --> 02:40:56,589
We are governed by five member board elected by our residents and have 111 homes which is consisting of 174 voting constituents.

1658
02:40:56,589 --> 02:41:04,960
We alue and expect a specific quality of life and wish to protect and maintain the same.

1659
02:41:04,960 --> 02:41:08,768
>> the food truck proposal which will be adjacent to our park has become a serious concern.

1660
02:41:08,768 --> 02:41:23,616
A committee has been formed and formed information research thoroughly and compiled into a report that we will present to you today for review several committee members will be making presentations today.

1661
02:41:23,616 --> 02:41:31,490
Communication has been presented to a targeted audience consisting of only three senior residents.

1662
02:41:31,490 --> 02:41:47,139
The developer has come or the developer has come to our private clubhouse with written proposals or changes to the site plan at the front entrance of our park is signage that clearly states that solicitation is not allowed.

1663
02:41:47,139 --> 02:41:51,744
His intimidation tactic to this targeted audience has raised safety concerns.

1664
02:41:51,744 --> 02:42:02,655
Perception is everything I know workshops or eetings have been established by two county commissioners and developer with our community.

1665
02:42:02,655 --> 02:42:20,940
Funding for this endeavor has not been transparent and the taxpayers of marion county all complaints will be irected to the stakeholders for example the state of florida, the board of health, the fire marshal osha and the department of environmental

1666
02:42:20,940 --> 02:42:26,178
protection in order to be transparent to the taxpayers a public vote by the commissioners should be held.

1667
02:42:26,178 --> 02:42:29,615
>> thank you for your time.

1668
02:42:29,615 --> 02:42:30,820
That's what we're doing here today, sir.

1669
02:42:30,716 --> 02:42:33,152
Having a public vote.

1670
02:42:33,152 --> 02:42:33,352
>> mr.

1671
02:42:33,352 --> 02:42:36,656
Watson, you're up next.

1672
02:42:36,656 --> 02:42:40,826
>> theresa bush you'll be on deck.

1673
02:42:40,826 --> 02:42:42,610
>> well, to the next podium, please.

1674
02:42:42,610 --> 02:42:42,610
Okay.

1675
02:42:42,294 --> 02:42:44,196
My name is stanley weston.

1676
02:42:44,196 --> 02:42:50,636
My wife and I reside at 1305 8000 east 49th court in

1677
02:42:50,636 --> 02:42:50,836
my name is stanley weston. My wife and I reside at 1305 8000 east 49th court in-

1678
02:42:50,836 --> 02:42:53,406
my name is stanley weston. My wife and I reside at 1305 tropicana 49th court in-

1679
02:42:53,406 --> 02:42:57,810
my name is stanley weston. My wife and I reside at 1305 tropicana village. T in- >> we are both taxpaying residents of marion county.

1680
02:42:57,810 --> 02:43:18,898
I am speaking about the b1 zoning designation for the 2.02 acre site under review within the guidelines within the guidelines established previously by the planning commissions in this county be one designation is for neighborhood businesses

1681
02:43:18,898 --> 02:43:31,277
small scale local commercial businesses operating within the confines of their interior spaces nothing in outside spaces.

1682
02:43:31,277 --> 02:43:42,221
Your examples stated in b1 zoning are a bank barber salon bakery, medical and business offices and etc.

1683
02:43:42,221 --> 02:43:46,925
A b1 special use variance deviates from these guidelines.

1684
02:43:46,925 --> 02:44:07,959
The property is surrounded by residential areas needing services that are brick and mortar established businesses food and truck truck trailers do not comply with the commission's designate designation 4b1 zoning and are not needed near our

1685
02:44:07,959 --> 02:44:08,260
community.

1686
02:44:08,193 --> 02:44:12,640
All we ask is that you that this commission follow their own previous designation.

1687
02:44:12,531 --> 02:44:15,867
>> thank you.

1688
02:44:15,867 --> 02:44:19,171
>> thank you sir harrell caraway will be up next.

1689
02:44:19,171 --> 02:44:19,504
>> yes.

1690
02:44:19,504 --> 02:44:20,439
Yes ma'am.

1691
02:44:20,439 --> 02:44:21,390
Afternoon.

1692
02:44:21,390 --> 02:44:28,460
My name is 206 southeast 47th terrace and belleview 34420.

1693
02:44:28,347 --> 02:44:32,884
>> ma'am, could you pull the microphone a little bit closer?

1694
02:44:32,884 --> 02:44:33,452
Okay.

1695
02:44:33,452 --> 02:44:38,156
Thank you.

1696
02:44:38,156 --> 02:44:43,462
I am a resident of tropicana tropicana village of 55 and over community.

1697
02:44:43,462 --> 02:44:54,106
You could tell we're very passionate about this are safety concerns or tropicana village residents have expressed concern that permanent food trucks in florida are facing crime.

1698
02:44:54,106 --> 02:45:05,684
Rising crime crime in florida food truck ones include serious violations incidents, theft of equipment allegations of such areas function as common nuisances due to chronic criminal activity.

1699
02:45:05,684 --> 02:45:06,652
>> that's the second time I just I just want to

1700
02:45:06,652 --> 02:45:17,663
chronic criminal activity. >> that's the second time I just I just want to make sure that you guys now this is a quasi judicial hearing so we have to have actual evidence if you can provide evidence of increased crime no problem.

1701
02:45:17,663 --> 02:45:25,637
But this is a zoning hearing and we do need to stick with facts hearsay with all due respect, as the attorney illustrated earlier is not a fact.

1702
02:45:25,637 --> 02:45:25,871
Okay.

1703
02:45:25,871 --> 02:45:35,480
So if you don't have proof with number of crime stats and fdle information reports, then it really I mean I don't want to waste your time but it's not admissible.

1704
02:45:35,480 --> 02:45:36,581
We can't use it as fact.

1705
02:45:36,581 --> 02:45:39,584
Does that make sense?

1706
02:45:39,584 --> 02:45:47,359
I just want you to know I mean I don't want to be a but at the end of the day we have to we can only make these decisions based on a set of criteria and facts.

1707
02:45:47,359 --> 02:45:47,759
>> okay.

1708
02:45:47,759 --> 02:45:54,666
So some of the stuff that's being mentioned right now is hearsay and we can't use it.

1709
02:45:54,666 --> 02:45:54,933
Okay.

1710
02:45:54,933 --> 02:45:58,704
Well I will skip my next paragraph.

1711
02:45:58,704 --> 02:45:59,370
Okay.

1712
02:45:59,370 --> 02:46:15,487
Belleview has an acted stricter ordinances banning food trucks not owned by the vendor to curb theft and complaints and april 2025 a deadly shooting occurred at a food truck gathering and made miami dade resulting in two deaths.

1713
02:46:15,487 --> 02:46:24,629
These mobile home businesses are particularly vulnerable during off hours especially when parked in unattended poorly lit areas on outskirts of commercial or in residential areas.

1714
02:46:24,629 --> 02:46:42,830
Security measures should increase include increased security with enhanced lighting, fencing and cameras, low security storage trucks parked in open and monitored lots easy access points order vehicles often lack advanced built in security making

1715
02:46:42,483 --> 02:46:54,620
them easy for breaking low visible values which include cash tip jars equipment left in plain sight as a resident of tropicana village I am against a food truck behind our 5 and over community.

1716
02:46:54,495 --> 02:46:54,962
>> thank you.

1717
02:46:54,962 --> 02:46:57,565
Thank you for your time.

1718
02:46:57,565 --> 02:47:01,202
>> all right.

1719
02:47:01,202 --> 02:47:02,700
>> tom hill will be the following.

1720
02:47:02,337 --> 02:47:04,839
Yes, ma'am.

1721
02:47:04,839 --> 02:47:11,879
> kyra crawley I live at 13097 some of these following night court and basically I'm doing the crime thing too.

1722
02:47:11,879 --> 02:47:22,757
But what you said we're like repeating ourselves so yes, ma'am, I'm just I guess maybe I'm just waving denial that you don't like it.

1723
02:47:22,757 --> 02:47:22,991
Yes.

1724
02:47:22,991 --> 02:47:23,570
No, and I.

1725
02:47:23,358 --> 02:47:23,992
I come home.

1726
02:47:23,992 --> 02:47:41,643
Do I work a day, night hours and I come home nine 10:00 at night sometimes and there's I can tell you at least once or twice a week those police cars and the dollar general parking lot that back area I took pictures the other day.

1727
02:47:41,643 --> 02:47:42,777
It shows laura with all kinds of stuff.

1728
02:47:42,777 --> 02:47:46,147
There is just not a good place for that part to come in.

1729
02:47:46,147 --> 02:47:49,717
>> thank you.

1730
02:47:49,717 --> 02:47:56,758
Yes, please if you have if you if you're going to make criminal allegations, you need to bring criminal support.

1731
02:47:56,758 --> 02:48:00,228
I's me, sir.

1732
02:48:00,228 --> 02:48:00,728
>> all right.

1733
02:48:00,728 --> 02:48:01,950
Marlene turin.

1734
02:48:01,950 --> 02:48:04,165
Is that right?

1735
02:48:04,165 --> 02:48:04,966
>> if I said that right?

1736
02:48:04,966 --> 02:48:05,660
Yes, sir.

1737
02:48:05,366 --> 02:48:05,600
Okay.

1738
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:07,735
My name is tom hills.

1739
02:48:07,735 --> 02:48:14,242
I live at 13179 southeast 49th court belleview.

1740
02:48:14,242 --> 02:48:18,513
>> I have my two minute speech here but it's been touched on quite a bit.

1741
02:48:18,513 --> 02:48:28,220
>> but I want to reiterate it just because the developer wants to get like special permission from you about that entry way off before 84.

1742
02:48:28,189 --> 02:48:31,920
>> that's correct.

1743
02:48:31,920 --> 02:48:49,510
>> and plus I want to get rid of this stupid thing but yes, I'll just reiterate merging traffic coming in here, the entrances here you can't, you know, even start to merge to go into the other lane till you get 356ft away from the entrance and

1744
02:48:49,510 --> 02:49:01,255
then also anybody coming from this way going westbound who would want to go into that would be utting right straight across the traffic there.

1745
02:49:01,255 --> 02:49:02,560
>> so I'll get rid of this too.

1746
02:49:02,290 --> 02:49:04,792
Thank you sir.

1747
02:49:04,792 --> 02:49:05,930
Appreciate it.

1748
02:49:05,930 --> 02:49:05,930
Be a bit of work.

1749
02:49:05,860 --> 02:49:06,940
Steven.

1750
02:49:06,940 --> 02:49:08,620
Did you receive a traffic?

1751
02:49:08,296 --> 02:49:09,300
Can you just address the curve?

1752
02:49:09,300 --> 02:49:11,733
Let me let me help us out here.

1753
02:49:11,733 --> 02:49:18,839
>> let me fast forward this little bit and let me have my county engineer just come up quickly and give us a testimony in regards to the traffic at that at that curve.

1754
02:49:18,839 --> 02:49:19,400
>> yes, sir.

1755
02:49:19,307 --> 02:49:19,840
Good afternoon.

1756
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:34,690
Sticking here in county engineer so the county engineer does not support that driveway that's proposed there that driveway you see today actually predates the arrival of the dollar general so that was the legal access that had to be a part of

1757
02:49:34,536 --> 02:49:37,472
our project that happened back in 2008.

1758
02:49:37,472 --> 02:49:38,400
Not long after that the d.g.

1759
02:49:38,307 --> 02:49:55,857
Came through cross access was required that would be the new legal access 440ft is what the code requires from driveway spacings for this criteria of why 45 miles an hour just to the west of this is a 55 mile an hour stretch so speeds are probably

1760
02:49:55,857 --> 02:49:57,159
higher than 45 miles an hour at times.

1761
02:49:57,159 --> 02:50:12,400
Also looking t the merge and that tapered distance there is indeed a merge conflict that would be present at this location further supporting our recommendation not to allow driveway at this location.

1762
02:50:12,400 --> 02:50:22,840
>> so I think what you're hearing ladies and gentlemen especially for you that live there pretty much no matter what business ever comes here in the future our county engineer would not approve an entrance off a 44 right.

1763
02:50:22,517 --> 02:50:26,880
So if that helps to alleviate some of your concerns I think you've addressed that.

1764
02:50:26,855 --> 02:50:27,322
Thank you, stephen.

1765
02:50:27,322 --> 02:50:29,124
I appreciate it.

1766
02:50:29,124 --> 02:50:43,739
>> by the way, if if if your friends and neighbors have already, you know, said everything you were going to say when I call your name you can just raise your hand and say I'm just opposed or for okay, we can help expedite this process if you'd

1767
02:50:43,739 --> 02:50:44,600
like.

1768
02:50:44,373 --> 02:50:48,760
I think it's loud tall toro as well.

1769
02:50:48,477 --> 02:50:49,144
>> it's up to me.

1770
02:50:49,144 --> 02:50:51,790
You're up.

1771
02:50:51,790 --> 02:50:51,790
Okay.

1772
02:50:51,680 --> 02:50:58,720
>> my name my name is maryland third rail I live at 13339 southeast 49th court in tropicana village belleview.

1773
02:50:58,720 --> 02:51:17,472
My husband and I do not want this project behind our home because we fear it will draw drug dealers, squatters and homeless people it will provide please try to keep well we know what we see and what we experience in our I can disrespect but

1774
02:51:17,472 --> 02:51:22,577
the project isn't there so you can't say that's going to draw drug dealers you don't know.

1775
02:51:22,577 --> 02:51:25,547
So it's just hearsay and I appreciate my fear.

1776
02:51:25,547 --> 02:51:28,450
>> that's why it's my fear, right?

1777
02:51:28,450 --> 02:51:29,951
I'm not saying I read it somewhere.

1778
02:51:29,951 --> 02:51:30,252
Okay.

1779
02:51:30,252 --> 02:51:32,870
Okay.

1780
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:32,870
Okay.

1781
02:51:32,721 --> 02:51:34,890
I fear it will draw drug dealers, squatters and homeless people.

1782
02:51:34,589 --> 02:51:41,830
It will provide them with handicap bathrooms, running water, shelter and places to eat, congregate, relax, hide and sleep.

1783
02:51:41,830 --> 02:51:55,877
It could become their home in tropicana village could become a ew target for crime and themes will experience heavy traffic in tropicana village because as their customers order food and eat and check out the park they will notice for the first

1784
02:51:55,877 --> 02:52:03,850
time probably this home development behind here which is tropicana village and they'll probably come check us out as they are checking out the park.

1785
02:52:03,618 --> 02:52:11,930
We believe our property value will plummet with food trucks in our backyard because it will destroy our privacy and safety .

1786
02:52:11,930 --> 02:52:15,230
The back of a home actually butts the back of the proposed site.

1787
02:52:15,230 --> 02:52:19,368
Their customers will be able to see me wash my dishes, eat and play games.

1788
02:52:19,368 --> 02:52:27,179
They can also climb the trees in my back yard on the other side of the fence and hide in my backyard behind my sheds.

1789
02:52:27,179 --> 02:52:34,720
Tropicana residents have had golf carts stolen and vandalized and items missing so more traffic could easily lead to more crime.

1790
02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:39,580
We're also had outsiders use our water, our swimming pool and facilities without our permission.

1791
02:52:39,580 --> 02:52:45,970
We are concerned about the all day activities basically from 9 a.m.

1792
02:52:45,970 --> 02:52:45,970
To 10 p.m.

1793
02:52:45,397 --> 02:53:00,245
All these activities that cause issues like loud noises from traffic and crowds and generators if they're used for temporarily vehicles and speakers even our own dogs will be barking all the time because they're seeing and hearing strangers.

1794
02:53:00,245 --> 02:53:16,610
They'll be strong odors all day long from different foods being cooked burnt to even cigaret smoke issues like trash litter and garbage will draw cockroaches, flies and rats if it's not removed every single day by the way, the two 25 foot buffer

1795
02:53:16,428 --> 02:53:33,979
between the fences won't stop noise but it could provide areas for storing supplies, cardboard boxes, rubbish and a nice place for places like homeless or run less homeless runaways to to sleep and hide long I have enjoyed living at tropicana

1796
02:53:33,979 --> 02:53:34,880
village for nine years.

1797
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:35,914
>> it's safe, peaceful and tranquil.

1798
02:53:35,914 --> 02:53:38,830
Thank you so much for your testimony.

1799
02:53:38,350 --> 02:53:38,684
Thank you.

1800
02:53:38,684 --> 02:53:39,180
Yes sir.

1801
02:53:39,180 --> 02:53:42,421
The next is michelle jungle for me.

1802
02:53:42,421 --> 02:53:45,290
Is that right?

1803
02:53:45,290 --> 02:53:46,580
I was supposed to go before her.

1804
02:53:46,225 --> 02:53:50,620
You would have been better off ,huh?

1805
02:53:50,620 --> 02:53:50,620
>> yes, sir.

1806
02:53:50,462 --> 02:53:50,896
I understand.

1807
02:53:50,896 --> 02:53:57,303
I mean she said she she she basically spoke for you.

1808
02:53:57,303 --> 02:54:04,743
She said me and my husband that's how my wife starts off because I'm already in agreement.

1809
02:54:04,743 --> 02:54:05,110
>> okay?

1810
02:54:05,110 --> 02:54:05,444
Yes, sir.

1811
02:54:05,444 --> 02:54:05,844
Go ahead.

1812
02:54:05,844 --> 02:54:08,814
Name and address for the record.

1813
02:54:08,814 --> 02:54:10,449
>> yes.

1814
02:54:10,449 --> 02:54:29,969
Lyle thrill 13 339 southeast 49th court in belleview and that is directly about abuts the main part of the of the where the business is going.

1815
02:54:29,969 --> 02:54:36,809
>> yes so go ahead and I'm concerned about lighting requirements.

1816
02:54:36,809 --> 02:54:40,312
I have a picture of a food truck lighting acility.

1817
02:54:40,312 --> 02:54:40,913
>> yes, sir.

1818
02:54:40,913 --> 02:54:51,456
And if you notice this, those are not regulation lights for being outside a residential area.

1819
02:54:51,456 --> 02:54:55,227
>> yes, sir.

1820
02:54:55,227 --> 02:55:16,930
And there is such a thing as light pollution, outdoor lighting or parking areas, signage and truck service lights can create lights spill over into nearby homes, bright lights at night can be blinding and diminish sleep quality for all ages

1821
02:55:16,327 --> 02:55:32,900
glare controlled lighting design and operational hours are commonly a part of the special use permit conditions to minimize impacts on neighbors especially sensitive communities like 55 plus neighborhoods.

1822
02:55:32,476 --> 02:55:45,890
I am a disabled american veteran vietnam veteran thank you for your service.

1823
02:55:45,890 --> 02:55:48,225
I don't want or need a food truck in my backyard.

1824
02:55:48,225 --> 02:56:27,765
I don't think it's it's not not a part of the tranquil life that we have been used to and also I was concerned about security but there's not hasn't been any designated security part the security that they said they were having is consists of

1825
02:56:27,765 --> 02:56:34,104
three janitors and I don't think that's adequate security.

1826
02:56:34,104 --> 02:56:44,480
How and at the time thank you very much for your testimony, sir and thank you for your service.

1827
02:56:44,281 --> 02:56:47,510
>> I didn't say that to the other gentleman also there's a couple other folks that served.

1828
02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:47,685
Thank you for your service.

1829
02:56:47,685 --> 02:56:53,757
We appreciate you especially in light of america 250 we're here and we have this opportunity today because of you.

1830
02:56:53,757 --> 02:56:56,827
>> we appreciate it.

1831
02:56:56,827 --> 02:56:57,270
All right.

1832
02:56:57,227 --> 02:56:57,661
Yes, ma'am.

1833
02:56:57,661 --> 02:57:04,435
Richard and then richard, you learn let your wife go first to well, he was supposed to go before me.

1834
02:57:04,435 --> 02:57:07,972
>> oh, where's richard at?

1835
02:57:07,972 --> 02:57:08,720
All ight.

1836
02:57:08,339 --> 02:57:08,806
Come on down, sir.

1837
02:57:08,806 --> 02:57:11,909
And that's young erman.

1838
02:57:11,909 --> 02:57:12,409
Young for okay.

1839
02:57:12,409 --> 02:57:12,676
Okay.

1840
02:57:12,676 --> 02:57:12,977
Thank you.

1841
02:57:12,977 --> 02:57:15,145
I appreciate that.

1842
02:57:15,145 --> 02:57:15,946
I did.

1843
02:57:15,946 --> 02:57:16,513
>> I messed that up.

1844
02:57:16,513 --> 02:57:17,470
I apologize.

1845
02:57:17,470 --> 02:57:17,470
Everybody does.

1846
02:57:17,448 --> 02:57:19,490
Don't worry about it.

1847
02:57:19,383 --> 02:57:26,357
Douglas mcgee, you'll be on deck 13134 southeast 48th terrace belleview tropicana village.

1848
02:57:26,357 --> 02:57:48,779
My concern is with fires, fuel and power sources from the nfpa codes one and 6 from various chapters and also national electric code 70 the common causes of fires and food trucks are malfunctioning electrical systems grease build up and improper

1849
02:57:48,779 --> 02:57:52,490
use of cooking equipment in food trucks.

1850
02:57:52,383 --> 02:57:59,356
The use of liquefied petroleum gas or propane to fuel cooking operations presents additional hazards.

1851
02:57:59,356 --> 02:58:07,166
Many accidents involving gas cylinders used by food trucks have occurred over the years from leaking propane tanks.

1852
02:58:07,166 --> 02:58:11,770
>> any engine driven source of power must be checked on a regular basis.

1853
02:58:11,770 --> 02:58:27,219
Generators must be separated from the public by barriers such as physical guards, fencing or enclosures any engine driven source of power must be shut own prior to refueling from a portable container.

1854
02:58:27,219 --> 02:58:42,134
Also the exhaust from the engine driven source of power complies with the following it must be at least 12 foot in all directions from openings air intakes and have an unobstructed path from any point to a public way.

1855
02:58:42,134 --> 02:58:50,420
The designed for safe evacuation of the area it must be directed away from all buildings.

1856
02:58:50,209 --> 02:58:56,615
It must be directed away from any mobile or temporary cooking operations.

1857
02:58:56,615 --> 02:59:12,531
Also and electrical appliances, fixtures, equipment and wiring must comply with the national electric code and then we get into the propane tank integrity main shut off valve for liquid and vapors pressure on piping systems piping and flexible

1858
02:59:12,531 --> 02:59:15,934
connectors, leak detection systems.

1859
02:59:15,934 --> 02:59:20,773
Each food truck is an independent business.

1860
02:59:20,773 --> 02:59:24,276
Not all businesses are created equally.

1861
02:59:24,276 --> 02:59:32,840
My hope is that if this is passed the fire marshal can inspect them on a regular basis before an accident occurs at our back doors.

1862
02:59:32,251 --> 02:59:32,818
>> yes, ma'am.

1863
02:59:32,818 --> 02:59:47,660
Thank you again, the department of health is in charge of these particular inspections and they would make sure but before any business whether it's this one or anything else ever gets approved for a marshal inspects all the connections how

1864
02:59:47,333 --> 02:59:47,833
it works.

1865
02:59:47,833 --> 02:59:55,400
I know I called the fire department and and and the building department would make sure that the correct electrical pedestals are in place.

1866
02:59:55,274 --> 03:00:01,880
>> he said once a year or every three months depending.

1867
03:00:01,880 --> 03:00:02,470
>> yeah.

1868
03:00:02,181 --> 03:00:16,950
I mean if we had an incident or something happened you know I don't I don't recall any fire trucks catching on fire but we could always oh I checked out in our in our area yeah I checked over the over the national average and they explode so

1869
03:00:16,729 --> 03:00:21,990
that was just too enforcement too much information to bring with me.

1870
03:00:21,433 --> 03:00:23,935
>> well thank you, darlin.

1871
03:00:23,935 --> 03:00:24,403
>> thank you.

1872
03:00:24,403 --> 03:00:28,674
Take your time and our brenda hampton will be n deck.

1873
03:00:28,674 --> 03:00:29,107
>> yes, sir.

1874
03:00:29,107 --> 03:00:31,777
We gave you the microphone perfect.

1875
03:00:31,777 --> 03:00:38,517
Hello, rick young from in 13134 our company that's working years it isn't.

1876
03:00:38,517 --> 03:00:39,184
>> it is on perfect.

1877
03:00:39,184 --> 03:00:41,887
All right, we'll get you taken care of.

1878
03:00:41,887 --> 03:00:42,154
Okay.

1879
03:00:42,154 --> 03:00:42,621
There we go.

1880
03:00:42,621 --> 03:00:48,600
Oh, rick young four men 13134 southeast 48 terrace and belleview.

1881
03:00:48,393 --> 03:01:04,560
I wanted to talk about general safety checklist from the national fire prevention association and you need to make sure or ensure that all trucks are properly licensed and that we verify that the proper fire department vehicular access is provided

1882
03:01:04,222 --> 03:01:08,360
for the fire lanes and access roads.

1883
03:01:08,360 --> 03:01:26,311
The fire trucks might have to go through that donald general parking lot just to gain access to this property should an accident occur, ensure clearance of the fire department access to the fire hydrants and fire department connections, ensure

1884
03:01:26,311 --> 03:01:34,987
all the appliances are checked to that produced grease laden vapors and that might be the source of grease in the hood.

1885
03:01:34,987 --> 03:01:41,927
Also grease removal devices or ducts are protected by fire extinguisher equipment.

1886
03:01:41,927 --> 03:01:52,938
Portable fire extinguishers have been selected and installed in all kitchen cooking areas whether it's type a, b, c, d or k depending on the type f the truck.

1887
03:01:52,938 --> 03:02:11,923
>> also ensuring that all the workers are trained in the following areas proper use of portable fire extinguishers proper method of shutting off fuel sources, proper procedures to notify the local fire department and how to perform a simple

1888
03:02:11,923 --> 03:02:22,768
leak test on lp gas connections according to the nfpa codes you can congesting a lot of different sources all in one congested area.

1889
03:02:22,768 --> 03:02:30,420
That's where fire becomes my concern if one truck goes there's a real possibility many more can go further.

1890
03:02:30,242 --> 03:02:41,386
I've looked up many food truck court locations in florida as many as I can find and I can't find any that are adjacent to a residential area .

1891
03:02:41,386 --> 03:02:42,187
>> thank you for your time.

1892
03:02:42,187 --> 03:02:56,735
Thank you for your comments or all right, brenda hampton one 3100 southeast 47th court belleview, florida tropicana villages I oppose the food truck park.

1893
03:02:56,735 --> 03:03:03,909
>> I back every one from tropicana that said anything most everything that I wanted to say is already been said.

1894
03:03:03,909 --> 03:03:04,977
>> so thank you for your time.

1895
03:03:04,977 --> 03:03:07,790
Appreciate that.

1896
03:03:07,412 --> 03:03:07,779
Thank you.

1897
03:03:07,779 --> 03:03:11,490
Mary ellen bennett and jason terry, you next couple up.

1898
03:03:11,490 --> 03:03:11,490
>> yes, sir.

1899
03:03:11,483 --> 03:03:18,423
My name's douglas mcgee live at 13162 southeast 7th court here in belleview.

1900
03:03:18,423 --> 03:03:37,900
I too am against the food court but my biggest concern is my background and my employment was a traffic accident reconstructionist with the pennsylvania state police and I there is nothing more sobering than anyone whether it's first responder

1901
03:03:37,376 --> 03:03:40,579
ems, police officer, whatever.

1902
03:03:40,579 --> 03:03:55,963
Go to ind a a body that is that is dead and obviously it could have been prevented just you know, this past february 8th a individual was trying to cross 44 to go to dollar general.

1903
03:03:55,963 --> 03:04:17,785
I don't know whether he was crossing illegally with a red light or the car was going through a red light but nonetheless a human body was, you know, glittering the same thing whether or not in ocala or any large city there is crosswalk lights

1904
03:04:17,785 --> 03:04:21,723
and pedestrians are still run over.

1905
03:04:21,723 --> 03:04:22,390
There is no crosswalk there.

1906
03:04:22,390 --> 03:04:41,900
Maybe that'll be covered with a traffic and engineering study I don't know but at this point it is a dangerous situation to think that young people are going to be crossing a highly busy traffic roadway there wether or not their traffic crossing

1907
03:04:41,676 --> 03:04:51,886
with a green light or not they could still have a lot of a lot of individuals hurt and killed.

1908
03:04:51,886 --> 03:05:04,932
And last thing I want to do is to see many more crosses flowers, wreaths, teddy bears, laudatory charts because these children in schools out there are going to be crossing I'm sure to get go to the food trucks.

1909
03:05:04,932 --> 03:05:05,400
>> thank you.

1910
03:05:05,400 --> 03:05:10,101
Thank you, sir.

1911
03:05:11,720 --> 03:05:11,720
Right.

1912
03:05:11,706 --> 03:05:12,640
Oh, jason terry already I think.

1913
03:05:12,640 --> 03:05:15,430
And carrie mcgee will be following.

1914
03:05:15,209 --> 03:05:15,677
>> yes, ma'am.

1915
03:05:15,677 --> 03:05:21,382
Mary ellen bennett 13159 south east 49th court belleview.

1916
03:05:21,382 --> 03:05:38,320
My main concern is the safety issues created by the use of the dollar general parking lot as egress to and from 47th avenue kids jump out of cars in ad in their excitement make a beeline to the store not waiting for the adult or thought of checking

1917
03:05:38,132 --> 03:05:45,600
left or right for through traffic like the traffic they're used to is parking.

1918
03:05:45,373 --> 03:06:01,589
They're not used to people traveling through the lot can get very congested when there is a delivery truck let alone two of them in a parking lot at the same time and it is quite possible and highly probable that people will use the parking

1919
03:06:01,589 --> 03:06:21,776
lot of the church located directly across on the north side of 44 thereby crossing four lanes of traffic with no designated pedestrian crossing or lights only a ditch as a safety zone separating the lanes.

1920
03:06:21,776 --> 03:06:29,917
I do not see the priority in this for pedestrian safety in this plan to the degree that it warrants.

1921
03:06:29,917 --> 03:06:37,825
This is a recipe for disaster and it's ot a question of if but when.

1922
03:06:37,825 --> 03:06:38,426
Thank you, ma'am.

1923
03:06:38,426 --> 03:06:41,529
You all right?

1924
03:06:41,529 --> 03:06:44,813
>> and then charlene lagasse.

1925
03:06:44,813 --> 03:06:48,830
Yes, jason terry 13451 south east 46th court belleview.

1926
03:06:48,583 --> 03:06:51,786
I live across the street from the dollar general.

1927
03:06:51,786 --> 03:06:59,940
Unfortunately for us in growth ,whether it's a business or a food truck or whatever, it's going to be traffic is going to be inevitable.

1928
03:06:59,561 --> 03:07:00,528
We're going to have to deal with it.

1929
03:07:00,528 --> 03:07:15,430
Our concern on that end is it really doesn't benefit the community and surrounding area like it doesn't enefit jobs like a fast food restaurant or a jiffy store or things like that.

1930
03:07:15,377 --> 03:07:20,682
Also it's the noise that's outside the area will be confined inside if it was a regular business as it's oned.

1931
03:07:20,682 --> 03:07:23,451
Is that correct?

1932
03:07:23,451 --> 03:07:24,152
He would be one?

1933
03:07:24,152 --> 03:07:24,486
Yes, sir.

1934
03:07:24,486 --> 03:07:31,459
So I think our concerns is we would rather see it stay that way than to have this permit be approved.

1935
03:07:31,459 --> 03:07:32,600
>> so thank you.

1936
03:07:32,600 --> 03:07:34,562
Appreciate your comments.

1937
03:07:34,562 --> 03:07:35,196
>> yes, sir.

1938
03:07:35,196 --> 03:07:39,768
Leaving a humble chairman I will just district members please.

1939
03:07:39,768 --> 03:07:42,504
My name's coby mcgee.

1940
03:07:42,504 --> 03:07:49,477
I live at 13200 southeast fourth seventh court belleview, florida.

1941
03:07:49,477 --> 03:08:04,590
I am a member of the hoa for tropicana village and I think my fellow tropicana village members have done their best to explain their displeasure with this this concern going on and also they did my research and I mean I hope you guys realize

1942
03:08:04,292 --> 03:08:05,600
how much this means to this community.

1943
03:08:05,560 --> 03:08:13,501
I being a councilman for ten years I know what you guys go through and I know your job is also to bring it been this business into the town but it is not a good idea.

1944
03:08:13,501 --> 03:08:16,671
We have we didn't we don't want this place to go up in here.

1945
03:08:16,671 --> 03:08:30,819
It's not going to be good for our community again, you've heard it you've heard it all and I don't want to reiterate what everybody has said but these people are your constituents.

1946
03:08:30,819 --> 03:08:32,420
These are the people who vote for you into office.

1947
03:08:32,420 --> 03:08:35,560
Just please take that into consideration.

1948
03:08:35,423 --> 03:08:36,570
>> thank you, sir.

1949
03:08:36,570 --> 03:08:42,564
All right, charlene charlene lagasse 4413 southeast 134th street, belleview, florida.

1950
03:08:42,564 --> 03:08:46,434
We do not live in tropicana estates.

1951
03:08:46,434 --> 03:08:50,171
>> we live are you sure?

1952
03:08:50,171 --> 03:08:50,405
Yeah.

1953
03:08:50,405 --> 03:08:53,740
So look, I just double checking because we live in belleview heights estates.

1954
03:08:53,475 --> 03:08:56,878
>> all right?

1955
03:08:56,878 --> 03:09:05,153
From what I understand with the access and from 484 not being allowed you want to send them through the door?

1956
03:09:05,153 --> 03:09:05,387
Correct.

1957
03:09:05,387 --> 03:09:26,708
In sending the traffic through dollar general we lready experience traffic that goes through belleview heights estates trying to avoid the traffic light at 484 going westbound by sending people to that traffic light to go through dollar general

1958
03:09:26,708 --> 03:09:40,459
we're going to have more people cutting out that light going up 40 fourth court my house is right on the corner of 100 and 34th street and 44th court.

1959
03:09:40,459 --> 03:10:01,980
>> all of the traffic that comes through there avoiding the traffic light then turns right on 4130 fourth street and it would turn into dollar general after dark every one of those cars shines lights in my windows so I can you please fix that,

1960
03:10:01,980 --> 03:10:02,581
sir?

1961
03:10:02,581 --> 03:10:12,824
>> he has a question about or concern of the traffic signal the traffic signal you give your name and address for the record jean lee ac 4413 southeast 1/34 street.

1962
03:10:12,824 --> 03:10:16,328
>> thank you sir.

1963
03:10:16,328 --> 03:10:27,539
Right now the traffic light is a fixed traffic light because of the 55 mile per hour 44th court is the last median exit onto our street.

1964
03:10:27,539 --> 03:10:58,203
>> so we get a lot of traffic cutting the light because of its time duration as a result we get a back up of traffic at rush hour traffic as it is this would only lend more to that and at the end of 44th street 44th court and 1/34 street people

1965
03:10:58,203 --> 03:11:06,578
going to the store already have to take a very short right turn and a left turn right at the traffic light.

1966
03:11:06,578 --> 03:11:16,221
>> so it incurs a ot of lock up traffic coming down 47th and it's only going to get worse.

1967
03:11:16,221 --> 03:11:18,824
Thank you, sir.

1968
03:11:18,824 --> 03:11:19,658
That's it ery much.

1969
03:11:19,658 --> 03:11:20,920
>> thank you.

1970
03:11:20,920 --> 03:11:22,692
All right.

1971
03:11:22,861 --> 03:11:34,439
So that's everybody that signed up for the entertainment of the evening if if you have listen, I'm going to invite some other folks to come speak but you got to say something different.

1972
03:11:34,439 --> 03:11:35,400
Okay?

1973
03:11:35,400 --> 03:11:35,473
All right.

1974
03:11:35,473 --> 03:11:36,740
Anyone else want to speak?

1975
03:11:36,740 --> 03:11:38,376
Come on.

1976
03:11:38,376 --> 03:11:40,145
Anybody else after that I'm going to close public comment.

1977
03:11:40,145 --> 03:11:40,612
>> all right?

1978
03:11:40,612 --> 03:11:47,886
It's like you'll be the last one to speak.

1979
03:11:47,886 --> 03:11:48,860
I I'm short.

1980
03:11:48,687 --> 03:11:55,493
>> nicole grant 13279 southeast 49th court belleview, florida tropicana village.

1981
03:11:55,493 --> 03:11:56,940
I'll be really brief.

1982
03:11:56,940 --> 03:11:59,264
So the gentleman the mr.

1983
03:11:59,264 --> 03:12:13,211
Pimentel mentioned that a dining hall so I don't think it's a dining hall because to you maybe a dining hall is a closed building but it's a pavilion so people are going to come in, they're going to be at the pavilion and they're going to talk

1984
03:12:13,211 --> 03:12:14,479
till 930, 9:00 whenever they're going to close.

1985
03:12:14,479 --> 03:12:22,530
>> so there's more noise and the other thing the fence in the back so there's going to be a fence between tropicana and then two fences.

1986
03:12:22,487 --> 03:12:25,123
>> but what about the sides?

1987
03:12:25,123 --> 03:12:34,581
>> the sides it's going to be chain link so it's like the noise is going to come from that pavilion might be blocked in the back for some of these people.

1988
03:12:34,581 --> 03:12:35,810
I live two doors down from that.

1989
03:12:35,782 --> 03:12:43,490
I live in the retention pond right behind the retention pond and the retention pond.

1990
03:12:43,490 --> 03:12:46,159
>> no, but I'm glad it's there .

1991
03:12:46,159 --> 03:12:47,930
I'm only two doors down from all this noise so I'm going to hear it.

1992
03:12:47,894 --> 03:12:51,640
I'm not hearing it in the back but I'm going to hear it on the sides.

1993
03:12:51,531 --> 03:12:54,134
And let's talk about the lights in our backyard.

1994
03:12:54,134 --> 03:12:58,138
So just want you to consider that do you want to pavilion in your backyard?

1995
03:12:58,138 --> 03:13:01,474
>> unless I'm mistaken, it's a civilian.

1996
03:13:01,474 --> 03:13:01,941
>> so.

1997
03:13:01,941 --> 03:13:02,750
All right.

1998
03:13:02,342 --> 03:13:02,709
Thank you.

1999
03:13:02,709 --> 03:13:05,780
All right.

2000
03:13:05,412 --> 03:13:13,520
The applicants come back and you can address some of these comments.

2001
03:13:13,520 --> 03:13:26,700
>> well, thank you so much for coming up and voicing your concerns and thank you for the opportunity to speak as a follow up to their comments before I do so I do want to say thank you for your service to all the veterans who stepped up.

2002
03:13:26,700 --> 03:13:28,501
It means a lot to us.

2003
03:13:28,501 --> 03:13:32,439
It is our 250 50th anniversary and we have 250 more.

2004
03:13:32,439 --> 03:13:35,750
I really do mean it.

2005
03:13:35,442 --> 03:13:42,816
Before I do address everyone's concerns I will say the following I did talk to mr.

2006
03:13:42,816 --> 03:13:43,650
Todd ms..

2007
03:13:43,650 --> 03:13:59,990
Lisa at veterans health and veterans usa and one of the proposals I made and I actually made a pledge and it's written down so there's no going back and doesn't matter because I fully made it is to set up a donation box, a safe a donation safe

2008
03:13:59,165 --> 03:14:09,142
box on our own dime where veterans helping veterans usa will have a key to it where they can pick up the nation's every week.

2009
03:14:09,142 --> 03:14:25,358
They will also have the right in our blessing to set up a van is called a vet van close to our pavilion so they can bring awareness to the costs which is our shared costs and also accept more donations whether it be funds financial donations,

2010
03:14:25,358 --> 03:14:29,620
clothes, shoes and all that good stuff.

2011
03:14:29,620 --> 03:14:30,300
So that is something to keep in mind.

2012
03:14:30,163 --> 03:14:32,966
I do want to be a part of the community and contribute and you can ask mr.

2013
03:14:32,966 --> 03:14:33,433
Lisa and mr.

2014
03:14:33,433 --> 03:14:40,540
Todd I walk through their facilities and I think that you're doing a lovely job and are actually thoughtful over here.

2015
03:14:40,540 --> 03:14:56,890
>> yeah, they really are and in tandem with that I've also gone to the vet center by the paddock mall and that one's actually a so veterans help and veterans usa it's a nonprofit organization to stick to this yes I really do appreciate it.

2016
03:14:56,556 --> 03:14:56,990
Yeah for ure.

2017
03:14:56,990 --> 03:15:00,600
Yeah but there's a lot of people ere and I still have another hearing after you.

2018
03:15:00,493 --> 03:15:01,161
>> yeah, of course I do.

2019
03:15:01,161 --> 03:15:01,428
Yeah.

2020
03:15:01,428 --> 03:15:07,133
Yeah, I saw veterans coming up and address their yeah, their concerns and then what the county commission make a vote.

2021
03:15:07,133 --> 03:15:07,667
We'd appreciate it.

2022
03:15:07,667 --> 03:15:08,134
Yes, of course.

2023
03:15:08,134 --> 03:15:08,601
Yeah, definitely.

2024
03:15:08,601 --> 03:15:10,370
And I do thank everyone for coming up here.

2025
03:15:10,370 --> 03:15:13,974
It does make us a lot better and and being better every day is what are we strive for.

2026
03:15:13,974 --> 03:15:18,645
So I'm going to try to address everyone's concerns to the best of my ability.

2027
03:15:18,645 --> 03:15:30,361
So s far as lighting goes there will be a photometric plan obviously has to pass code that's we're not going to throw up lights that we could never do it.

2028
03:15:30,361 --> 03:15:37,502
What goes into putting up lights a lot of underground digging a lot of tube wiring through tubes it's all expensive.

2029
03:15:37,502 --> 03:15:38,536
It all has to be done the right way.

2030
03:15:38,536 --> 03:15:52,160
So obviously there will be a photometric plan and also a photometric plan for a soft light nightlight and so that obviously because we're going to have a 24 hour surveillance system at all times as far as security goes, we're going to have a

2031
03:15:52,116 --> 03:15:54,652
going to be one fence at the front the chain link fence.

2032
03:15:54,652 --> 03:16:07,699
There's going to be a second fence at the 50 foot mark, a third fence at a 25 foot mark and then a fourth fence at the at your own on your own perimeter on your own property's perimeter.

2033
03:16:07,699 --> 03:16:08,132
That's four fences.

2034
03:16:08,132 --> 03:16:12,360
I mean it's it can't be any more safety net as far as the sides go.

2035
03:16:12,360 --> 03:16:17,909
>> we were proposed to have vinyl on the sides within the well.

2036
03:16:17,909 --> 03:16:22,814
They can't see it but within the first 25 foot buffer and a second buffer I would propose to put vinyl on the side.

2037
03:16:22,814 --> 03:16:34,920
>> obviously that would walk out noise and anyone from seeing into their properties which they already do but obviously we're here to provide even more security with through four fences.

2038
03:16:34,459 --> 03:16:44,469
So let's see here we have a okay for adventure when the homeless again we will have a 24 hour surveillance so we will have a fence.

2039
03:16:44,469 --> 03:16:53,770
This will not be open door and there will be soft light and expose and anyone coming in and out and at some point we're thinking about hiring a security guard.

2040
03:16:53,770 --> 03:16:56,800
I'm not sure if that's allowed for someone to stay overnight.

2041
03:16:56,247 --> 03:16:59,317
Is that is that okay or is that not permissible?

2042
03:16:59,317 --> 03:16:59,851
>> I don't know.

2043
03:16:59,851 --> 03:17:00,618
You can figure that out later.

2044
03:17:00,618 --> 03:17:01,952
Okay.

2045
03:17:01,952 --> 03:17:02,553
Yeah.

2046
03:17:02,553 --> 03:17:03,754
And that is within our plans as well.

2047
03:17:03,754 --> 03:17:10,361
Like I said, we are trying to do a real permanent a permanent infrastructure, a permanent development let's see here.

2048
03:17:10,361 --> 03:17:18,690
So oak oil and pick up again that's not something we plan on doing ourselves.

2049
03:17:18,269 --> 03:17:30,147
This will be under contract every vendor will be under contract to have their oil pumped out by a company hat we choose based on uality and experience of service.

2050
03:17:30,147 --> 03:17:35,186
This is not so free nelly thing where everyone just does what they want.

2051
03:17:35,186 --> 03:17:46,664
There have been things on the floor today that that we would be closed down in a heartbeat and respectfully so of course I mean that the environmental protection agency will be on our backs and I want to be to actually I would never allow that

2052
03:17:46,664 --> 03:18:03,347
in in a hundred years and again by contract they will be forced and obligated to be pumped out by our pre-selected company and that is a part of their package as far as their rent package goes that is a part of their package there will be again

2053
03:18:03,347 --> 03:18:10,540
I'm not sure if everyone heard that there will be no generators 3050 amp connections all very expensive.

2054
03:18:10,540 --> 03:18:17,745
They all add a whole much a whole lot of more expensive to us but we're willing to do it because e want to do it the right way.

2055
03:18:17,745 --> 03:18:18,512
>> let's see here real quick.

2056
03:18:18,512 --> 03:18:18,879
Oh okay.

2057
03:18:18,879 --> 03:18:21,148
Again the last thing is traffic.

2058
03:18:21,148 --> 03:18:21,515
Traffic okay.

2059
03:18:21,515 --> 03:18:24,149
And traffic.

2060
03:18:24,618 --> 03:18:25,520
Oh yeah.

2061
03:18:25,520 --> 03:18:27,870
As far as traffic goes we have gone down from 24 to 20.

2062
03:18:27,454 --> 03:18:44,400
Whether it's this development or all the fall on a permissible with everyone hospitals that operate 24 seven urgent care centers with sirens and emergency vehicles running all the time they could be restaurants that run into late hours, 24 hour

2063
03:18:44,400 --> 03:18:44,905
drapes and laundromats as well.

2064
03:18:44,905 --> 03:18:47,508
There could be a big plaza there as well.

2065
03:18:47,508 --> 03:18:51,845
So as far as traffic goes, I mean that's pretty trivial and I don't mean to downplay that.

2066
03:18:51,845 --> 03:19:01,522
I can't help all the people moving into the area and whether it's me or someone else there's going to be traffic and that's so much something I can do.

2067
03:19:01,522 --> 03:19:02,990
I, I can't do much about that myself.

2068
03:19:02,990 --> 03:19:17,370
>> and as far as all the trucks being inspected there will be inspected by the health departments and the fire departments and actually one of the public conditions is that the county will have a list of everyone hat is operating.

2069
03:19:17,204 --> 03:19:21,800
So that is I mean that's everything right there.

2070
03:19:21,800 --> 03:19:29,490
There will have a list of everyone operating if anyone ever goes away and someone new comes in as a new vendor they have to be notified by public condition.

2071
03:19:29,350 --> 03:19:38,959
Again, I want to reiterate this is a 600,000 plus $600,000 plus investment on our part.

2072
03:19:38,959 --> 03:19:40,600
We're not playing around with that kind of money.

2073
03:19:40,394 --> 03:19:43,630
I mean it might be monopoly money for others, definitely not for me.

2074
03:19:43,497 --> 03:19:52,566
We are looking to be a permanent staple