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and welcome to

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the regular

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planning commission meeting of the

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city of beverly

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hills, december 11, 2025 and I do

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call

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this meeting to order.

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1st of all I would like to remind

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everybody,

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including my fellow commissioners

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to silence your cell phones. Members

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of

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the public may listen to

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the meeting by calling 310-

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288-2288 and selecting option 2 ,

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the meeting is

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airing live on channel 10 streaming

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live on the city website at beverly hills

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on the city website@beverlyhills.org.

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written public comment can be submitted

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by sending an email to comment

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pc at beverly hills

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and oral public comment

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can be heard by calling 310, 228, 2288

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selecting option 1

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or by video at beverly hills/

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bev public

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passcode of 90210.

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at this point I would like to invite

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our

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newly named and almost all official

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city planner

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cindy gordon, congratulations, by

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the way to lead us

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in the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the united

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states of america and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under god

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, indivisible with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> thank you, cindy.

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karen would you please call the roll.

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commissioner kaplan here commissioner

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ross here,

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commissioner demeter is absent, vice

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chair milkowski here , chair

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wolfe here.

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>> at this time whether any

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communications from

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the audience for items not on the

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agenda ? Seeing none in the room

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are there any email, video or written comments

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for

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items not on the agenda?

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>> no non-agenda comments.

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>> therefore please read the legislative

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applicant registration.

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>> thank you, the city has ordinance

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requiring registration of

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lobbyists or advocates prepaid

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or expect to be paid $50 or more to

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represent a

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project or influence city officials, professionals

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such as attorneys architects

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permit expediters, design professionals

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those engaged with public relations

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or research should register online

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by visiting the

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city website.

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additional information is available

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on the same webpage.

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>> thank you, karen

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next is the approval of the

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agenda. Any questions or comments

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or suggested changes to today's agenda?

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seeing none by order of the chair

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the agenda is approved

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as presented. We want to

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move on to the consent calendar which

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we will do

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in 2 sections because of various absences.

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the 1st section will be consideration

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of minutes

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of our special meeting on october

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21, 2025 as well as

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the regular meeting of october 23

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as well as the regular meeting of

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23, 2025. Are there any questions

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or comments on

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those minutes?

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I do not believe

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I see any. May I have a motion

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to adopt?

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>> so moved. >> 2nd.

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>> separately or altogether?

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>> the 2 together.

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can do a voice vote for that, all

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all opposed? It passes.

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the next item

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is the consideration of minutes of

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the regular meeting

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again, any questions or comments on

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not any revisions, may we have a motion

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rollcall vote?

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>> I believe you were absent.

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november 13.

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>> thank you, vice chair milkowski.

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yes chair

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no reports from any party agencies

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move us to the 1st item of continued

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410 dabney ln. This is one permit

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may 22, 2025 planning commission meeting

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and afterward

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was drawn by the applicant on

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december 2 of 2025.

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due to its withdrawal

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by the applicant, there is no action needed

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by the commission

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at this time. Any other action we

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need to take on this?

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>> chair I want to note we did receive

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members of the public not aware the

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item had been withdrawn.

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make sure they are aware, the commission

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is not hearing the item today and

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will remain for the record.

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you, that completes

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any discussion on item number 4 on

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which will move us to

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new business item number 5. 499,

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n. Canon dr. Request for conditional

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permit to allow vehicle sales used occupy

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this time I will open up the public

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hearing and ask

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the item is a request for conditional use

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permit at 499 north permit at

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499 north canon dr. Permit at 499

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project site is shown outlined in

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specific tenant space shown in yellow.

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product is developed with 4 story

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monica blvd. And beverly gardens park.

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again the proposed project includes

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request for conditional

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use permit to allow the establishment

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, project rendering shown here

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far as project operations. Electrical

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as well. No vehicle servicing would occur.

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project site includes a total of 65

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would have dedicated parking, 3 for

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employees and 2 protester vehicles,

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site with no customer deliveries to

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traffic control plan was submitted

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century city and then back

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proposed project was assessed and according

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the cities public notice requirements

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staff would like to point out we did discover

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a few typographical errors in the resolution.

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the date of adopted resolution

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number 2022, that should be a very

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building street frontage description.

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so with that, staff recommends

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the planning commission conduct a

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public hearing,

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adopt resolution with conditions approving

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use permit and find the project exempt

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the review thank you.

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would like to invite the applicant

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to make a presentation.

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you have 15 minutes and

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your relationship to the project.

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I would like to congratulate cindy

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gordon, on the record for

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her promotion

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and I was one of the 1st people

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see michael forbes here. I have not

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seen him recently that it's great

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start. Honorable chair, members of

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the commission my name is, I am here

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this

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afternoon representing sony honda

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sony honda is a joint

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venture between 2 international entities

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that

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have come together to manufacture

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and sell

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a new luxury electric vehicle

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, the entity has chosen beverly hills for

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the purposes of opening up a show room

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and dealership where they

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will be selling and taking orders

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for this particular vehicle.

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currently I have a pop-up showroom

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in century city

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and his vehicle has received good

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responses however it is our desire

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and goal

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to make 499 in

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beverly hills our flagship studio.

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at this location we

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will only be taking orders and displaying vehicles

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and it should be noted there will

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be no delivery

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of vehicles in beverly hills.

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all vehicles will be delivered either

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in

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torrance or fremont, california. Furthermore

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there will be

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no vehicle repairs for service at

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this everly hills location.

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as far as test drives, we follow the

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approved test route

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program that the city has and a copy

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of that and judy has been kind enough

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to show you our test drive route

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and we don't go through any residential areas,

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we

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follow only the business streets.

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both from entering and exiting. We

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will not

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have any impact on pedestrian safety

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or traffic as vehicles will

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be parked within the parking garage

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adjacent to

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the show room.

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as far as loading or removal of the

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vehicles from the showroom they

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will use the same procedures we have

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previously approved and you have

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approved for car dealerships

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at 9777 wilshire ,

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those procedures will require not

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only traffic control and signage

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but if I request a public works

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to move the vehicles in and out of

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the showroom. Our

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hours of operation are consistent

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with retail

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merchants within the triangle area.

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we will be located on the ground level

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of the building

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and will not interfere with any other

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businesses within the building.

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the parking garage has its own private

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entrance off of

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canon and as indicated , the building has

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a valley operator

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which will handle our customer parking

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, today I have

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with me

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who can answer any

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operational questions you may want

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to ask about

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this location for the vehicle. We

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hope that after you hear all of

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our presentation , that you will approve

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our cup , so we can start

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to operate out of this location.

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we

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have a deck we would like to present.

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and have an opportunity to go through

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the deck

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so you can understand a little more

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about the vehicle itself and what

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we

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are doing.

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stop the clock.

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pulling it up.

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okay?

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there

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we go.

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>> perfect, thank you

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very much. And the senior director

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of marketing at sony honda mobility

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of america. The presentation we have

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is to give a little bit

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of background on the company and what we're planning

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on doing and the product we

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are providing. On the next page

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sony honda mobility has mentioned

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it is a

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joint venture between parent companies

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sony and honda

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where our own entity,

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sony honda mobility and

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the 1st brand to bring to market is

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afeela. Trenton is meant to

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bring together 2 brands with backgrounds

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in intelligence and mobility but also adding

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entertainment as we would expect from

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the

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sony side of things. Excited

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to be opening up this location in

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beverly hills. Considering

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the flagship and we understand the

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fortunes of being a good

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citizen and also to make sure our experience

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meets that

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it what you expect for a location

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in the beverly hills location. On

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the

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following slide you will see again

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a quick rendering of

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the location. The following page

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want to quickly talk over what exactly

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is

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afeela. Afeela is the brand and

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our 1st product is called the

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afeela 1. It is

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a sedan as seen in the picture. The

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goal is to bring

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people closer to the things they love

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which includes things

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such as movies and sports and video

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games

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and music. All things we feel are

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quite important in the beverly

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hills landscape. Our retail experience

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is meant to be able

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to be just as vibrant and as exciting as

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the city is going to be in. Some of

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the most called out

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features of the car really feature

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around innovation

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such as self driving and a lot of customizable

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interfaces we will be providing

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them expenses from honda and sony.

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we are also really big on

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self-expression as you can tell from

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the artwork outside of the mural

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and the car itself allowing customers

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to be able to express themselves

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through moods and themes

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and things such as the media bar in

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front of the car and

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on the exterior side.

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on the next side as much in california

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is going to be

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our home. We currently have one retail

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studio in westfield

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valleyfair in san jose and another

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we are hoping to be able to move forward

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with of course is for

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99 north on canon

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and we have a few pop-ups, one of

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which in

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century city down the street and another

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in

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san diego currently. As mentioned

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our

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delivery hubs are where all the customer actual

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final delivery will occur .

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those are located at larger hubs

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where service and other things will

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be occurring in torrance

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and fremont. On the next slide here,

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a quick showcase

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, we did have an event.

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thank you for everyone's assistance

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getting this through.

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we do not want to miss out on the

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los angeles auto

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show that happened so we were able

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to bring the press

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that were here for the time to come

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to a soft

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opening of our studio. We were excited

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to

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be able to welcome 80 plus members

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of the

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press as well as some executives to

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be able to meet with

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the press so it was

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our way of at least indicating to them we

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are very serious and

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excited to be here in the beverly

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hills area and be able to bring

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some of the press over here. On the

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last slide here just wanted

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to show some of

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the activities we have done in other

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locations I previously mentioned .

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a

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lot of what you can see are reservation

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holders. Members of

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our community that have placed a

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deposit and are ready to start taking orders.

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when we are ready for that time we

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help many customers

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will convert and become an actual

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owner of

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the car. Of course that is something

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we're hoping to continue to build

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and nurture a relationship with them

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at the retail locations such as the

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one in

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beverly hills. Thank you very much.

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>> that concludes the presentation,

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other than answering

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any questions. Or

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anything else.

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>> thank you.

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return to your seats for now

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and, very possible we might be inviting

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you back up any minute.

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at this time we will open

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public comment. Each speaker

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will be provided 3 minutes, public

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comment will be closed

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before the commission begins deliberations. Those

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wishing

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to provide comment should do so now,

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the applicant may provide rebuttal,

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the public will

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have an opportunity to provide rebuttal

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to the applicant's 1st rebuttal so

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the order speaking will be as follows

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for public comment. Commissioner questions,

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applicant additional comments and rebuttal,

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public rebuttal to the applicant and

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applicant

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final rebuttal and comment.

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at this point

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I will call for comment from those

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in the room.

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I currently have one speaker card

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and that is the speaker so will you

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please

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come up?

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welcome.

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>>

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chair and honorable commissioners,

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thank you for allowing me to speak.

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the problem I have with this application

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is only on

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process, nothing else. I reviewed

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the last 10 applications

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for dealerships . The way it went,

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it

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can be for you and then before

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the commission.

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the reason, in addition if tenant

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improvements had

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been done prior to the approval they

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received

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a letter enforcement such as

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and 9737 wilshire , the tbf

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tf w exotic car dealership.

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as well as wires and they

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did unpermitted tenant

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permits. What happened here

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is they wanted to have an event. And

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the city manager

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approved and what was shown

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an architectural commission agenda report

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it states last, lastly the established

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auto dealership requires

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issuance of conditional use permit

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by the planning commission. Property

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owner submitted cup under review by

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the city

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but is not approved as of the writing

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of the report.

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condition of approval has been included

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in the draft

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resolution indicating no permits for

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the business

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identification side issued until

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the applicant has submitted a building

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permit application and paid all

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application fees for the improvement project

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consistent with

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city policy.

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is not consistent with city policy

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based on the previous dealerships.

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in addition it was not only

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for business sign identification

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which itself is not a big deal, the

594
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,500
big deal is there is a

595
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:14,700
mural there and it is supposed to

596
00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:15,800
be or should be also reviewed the

597
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800
architectural commission

598
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,110
because effectively this is a form

599
00:21:18,110 --> 00:21:20,110
of art which

600
00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:23,140
is presented

601
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,170
on property and there should be additional

602
00:21:24,170 --> 00:21:26,170
review. Originally

603
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,420
the logo was incorporated

604
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:31,992
in the upper portion

605
00:21:31,992 --> 00:21:32,993
of the mural functioning as both an

606
00:21:32,993 --> 00:21:34,993
artistic composition and

607
00:21:35,996 --> 00:21:37,996
business identification sign

608
00:21:37,998 --> 00:21:42,200
as again was in the architectural commission

609
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,200
. So the question

610
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:48,800
is again, I was shocked when I

611
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,110
saw the mural and I was shocked

612
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:54,140
when I saw the dealership. This is

613
00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:55,150
an on my dealership, all the applications

614
00:21:55,150 --> 00:21:57,150
for order

615
00:21:57,170 --> 00:22:00,200
to buy has to be online . The

616
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,210
question is what does the city receive

617
00:22:01,210 --> 00:22:02,990
out

618
00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:04,992
of this? There is a sculpture

619
00:22:04,992 --> 00:22:08,592
in front, in the railway portion.

620
00:22:11,999 --> 00:22:13,000
half $1 million was spent on that sculpture

621
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,100
and

622
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,200
will this mural detract from that?

623
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200
that

624
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,500
was not covered within the architectural

625
00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:20,500
commission. I understand

626
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,110
the need for why they wanted to go forward

627
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:27,140
, but again there is a process. Thank

628
00:22:27,140 --> 00:22:28,150
you.

629
00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:29,160
>> thank you very much for your comment.

630
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,170
I don't see any other comments in

631
00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:32,170
the room.

632
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,988
karen

633
00:22:34,988 --> 00:22:35,989
do we have additional comments on this

634
00:22:35,989 --> 00:22:36,990
item from phone video or email?

635
00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:38,990
>>

636
00:22:38,992 --> 00:22:39,993
no additional public comment.

637
00:22:39,993 --> 00:22:40,994
>> thank

638
00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:41,995
you, at

639
00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:44,998
this time we will move on

640
00:22:44,998 --> 00:22:45,999
to commissioner questions. Anyone

641
00:22:45,999 --> 00:22:47,999
volunteer to

642
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,100
go 1st? Commissioner ross start

643
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,500
us off.

644
00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,500
>>

645
00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,100
thank you very much and thank you staff

646
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,410
for the presentation. And

647
00:23:01,140 --> 00:23:02,150
the applicant

648
00:23:02,150 --> 00:23:04,170
in yours as well. Why don't we have

649
00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:05,180
the applicant come

650
00:23:05,180 --> 00:23:07,200
up? I did not catch her last name

651
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,990
so I will call you jay until

652
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:10,991
and unless I get it.

653
00:23:10,991 --> 00:23:12,993
and your colleague pulled a chair

654
00:23:12,993 --> 00:23:15,393
up if you want.

655
00:23:17,998 --> 00:23:21,100
what is your last name again? What

656
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,200
is your role? Are you with sony or

657
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,200
are

658
00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,500
you with

659
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,900
honda ?

660
00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:30,100
>>

661
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:33,130
it is one comedy, sony honda mobility

662
00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:34,140
is one company.

663
00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:35,150
>> what is your role

664
00:23:35,150 --> 00:23:36,160
at

665
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,170
the company?

666
00:23:37,170 --> 00:23:39,417
>> senior director of marketing.

667
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,989
>> who was the collie?

668
00:23:41,989 --> 00:23:44,992
>> I work for the creative agency

669
00:23:44,992 --> 00:23:45,993
that designed the studio and we are

670
00:23:45,993 --> 00:23:47,993
partners

671
00:23:48,996 --> 00:23:49,997
of sony honda in

672
00:23:49,997 --> 00:23:51,999
bringing their retail expense to life.

673
00:23:51,999 --> 00:23:53,999
>> very good.

674
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,500
in terms of the public comment

675
00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,700
we heard I was not there and I don't

676
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:01,800
know how it happened. I think in my mind

677
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800
there

678
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:07,140
is a distinction between what happened here

679
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:08,150
and with wires only where the

680
00:24:08,150 --> 00:24:10,170
city manager approved it and that

681
00:24:10,170 --> 00:24:11,180
makes it

682
00:24:11,180 --> 00:24:13,200
maybe unusual but at least there was

683
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,200
a process.

684
00:24:15,989 --> 00:24:17,989
>> 100% correct.

685
00:24:20,994 --> 00:24:22,996
we went to the city manager 1st, we

686
00:24:22,996 --> 00:24:23,997
asked the city manager because the

687
00:24:23,997 --> 00:24:24,998
la automotive show was coming here

688
00:24:24,998 --> 00:24:25,999
and we needed to

689
00:24:25,999 --> 00:24:28,100
be able to invite all the press to

690
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,200
come see it.'s we went to

691
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,400
the city manager, city manager approved

692
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,400
the fact

693
00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:37,100
we could have the special event at

694
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,110
the location, he put us in touch with

695
00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:40,130
patty betancourt from special events department

696
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:42,130
in beverly hills

697
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,180
and we walked through every part of

698
00:24:45,180 --> 00:24:46,190
her application in order to fill it out.

699
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:48,190
it was

700
00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:48,989
approved, we were allowed to have

701
00:24:48,989 --> 00:24:49,990
for 30

702
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:51,992
days a special event at the location

703
00:24:51,992 --> 00:24:53,992
which we did.

704
00:24:54,995 --> 00:24:57,395
just for edification, the

705
00:24:57,998 --> 00:24:59,998
interior site

706
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,100
is not finished, we do not have all

707
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,200
of

708
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,400
our improvements. Went to go back

709
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,500
to the building and safety department

710
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:06,600
in

711
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,700
order to do that but we have paid

712
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,700
all along,

713
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:12,120
every fee requested of us. We

714
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,130
have paid all of those fees and work

715
00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:15,130
closely

716
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,160
with not only planning, but

717
00:25:21,210 --> 00:25:21,989
we have worked closely with building

718
00:25:21,989 --> 00:25:22,990
and safety with respect to

719
00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:23,991
what we have done.

720
00:25:23,991 --> 00:25:24,992
>> significantly,

721
00:25:24,992 --> 00:25:27,992
you understand that if this

722
00:25:27,995 --> 00:25:28,996
is approved by this body to

723
00:25:28,996 --> 00:25:30,998
go to the architectural review committee

724
00:25:30,998 --> 00:25:32,998
for their approval.

725
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:35,200
>> we have already been to

726
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,400
the architectural review committee.

727
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,400
we have already gotten approval

728
00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:42,407
from the architectural committee

729
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:44,110
. As to the mural, to the signs come

730
00:25:44,110 --> 00:25:45,120
to

731
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,130
the locations of the signs and we

732
00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:47,140
went to that because we could not

733
00:25:47,140 --> 00:25:48,150
have put

734
00:25:48,150 --> 00:25:50,170
up any of the stuff without their approval.

735
00:25:50,170 --> 00:25:52,190
so we have done everything they asked

736
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:54,988
us to do with respect to what we

737
00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:55,989
needed to do.

738
00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:56,990
>> better yet

739
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:57,991
I thought I saw a condition in here

740
00:25:57,991 --> 00:25:59,991
that said

741
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:01,995
this is subject to the approval of

742
00:26:01,995 --> 00:26:03,997
the architectural review commission.

743
00:26:03,997 --> 00:26:06,997
am I making that up?

744
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,600
I could be, I thought I read that condition.

745
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,600
issuance

746
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,900
of building permits.

747
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,140
the project shall be

748
00:26:21,140 --> 00:26:22,150
subject to city architectural review.

749
00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:24,150
>> that is a

750
00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:27,180
standard condition on 99

751
00:26:28,210 --> 00:26:30,991
if not 100% of all resolutions

752
00:26:30,991 --> 00:26:31,992
considered by the

753
00:26:31,992 --> 00:26:33,994
commission. Arguably if the resolution

754
00:26:33,994 --> 00:26:36,997
is adopted that condition has been satisfied.

755
00:26:36,997 --> 00:26:37,998
>> okay thank you, I

756
00:26:37,998 --> 00:26:40,000
wanted to understand the interplay

757
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
between that condition.

758
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:46,300
okay very good. Can I

759
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
ask the applicants

760
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,900
some questions that

761
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,120
are related to the product?

762
00:26:55,150 --> 00:26:57,150
and this

763
00:26:57,170 --> 00:26:58,180
will be your 1st model year I assume

764
00:26:58,180 --> 00:26:59,190
with no vehicles on the

765
00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:00,200
road yet.

766
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,210
>> that is correct. We have

767
00:27:01,210 --> 00:27:03,210
prototypes on display

768
00:27:06,994 --> 00:27:07,995
but none have been sold.

769
00:27:07,995 --> 00:27:08,996
>>

770
00:27:08,996 --> 00:27:09,997
1st model you will be 2027 or 2026?

771
00:27:09,997 --> 00:27:12,997
>> 2026. That will be the sedan. >>

772
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,300
hopefully coming out with a sub type

773
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:17,400
model?

774
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,500
>> we have not disclosed. >>

775
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:19,600
okay

776
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,900
that's confidential. What if I sign a

777
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,120
nda. What is the price point of the

778
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,130
sedan?

779
00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:27,140
>>

780
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:28,150
the pastry was 89,900 and the higher

781
00:27:28,150 --> 00:27:30,150
signature trim

782
00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:32,190
is 102,900.

783
00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:34,190
>> luxury vehicles to

784
00:27:34,210 --> 00:27:36,210
compete with like

785
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:37,991
lucid.

786
00:27:37,991 --> 00:27:39,991
>>

787
00:27:39,993 --> 00:27:42,993
lucid, tesla model x, the

788
00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:43,997
higher end.

789
00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:45,999
>> a much as a

790
00:27:45,999 --> 00:27:47,000
deposit?

791
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,200
>> 200. It is a reservation

792
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,402
so customers are 100% refunded

793
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:53,600
if they don't.

794
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
>> deposit is $200?

795
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800
and refundable. Okay.

796
00:28:01,140 --> 00:28:03,140
>>

797
00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:07,170
the application seems to suggest

798
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,990
there will be full-time valley

799
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:11,990
during hours of

800
00:28:12,993 --> 00:28:14,993
operation. Correct?

801
00:28:14,995 --> 00:28:15,996
>> that's correct. >> provided by

802
00:28:15,996 --> 00:28:17,998
the landlord if I

803
00:28:17,998 --> 00:28:18,999
understood correctly.

804
00:28:18,999 --> 00:28:20,000
>> the parking

805
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000
structure is

806
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,300
leased out to another company, the

807
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:25,500
company is operating at

808
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,800
the same hours as the hours we indicated.

809
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,900
>> what happened of the landlord defaults

810
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:31,900
or fails

811
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:34,611
to provide the ballet? That's a

812
00:28:35,150 --> 00:28:36,160
question for our staff.

813
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,170
>> we

814
00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:39,190
have no knowledge of that all we know

815
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:41,210
is the operator of that particular

816
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:43,991
location has an agreement with

817
00:28:43,991 --> 00:28:44,992
the landlord and as far as we

818
00:28:44,992 --> 00:28:46,994
are concerned, that has been there,

819
00:28:46,994 --> 00:28:48,994
for years.

820
00:28:49,997 --> 00:28:52,397
you may know because

821
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
he represented before. And

822
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:58,403
they have been there

823
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,600
and if he terminates it,

824
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:03,100
we will work with him to find another

825
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,110
valley operator.

826
00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:05,120
>> okay, thank you.

827
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,120
if

828
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:08,150
I'm not mistaken the space is currently

829
00:29:08,150 --> 00:29:10,150
empty correct?

830
00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:11,180
occupied by you guys?

831
00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:13,180
>> empty other

832
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,989
than the fact that we have a car in

833
00:29:15,989 --> 00:29:16,990
the location and we have done some

834
00:29:16,990 --> 00:29:18,990
construction but

835
00:29:18,992 --> 00:29:19,993
we have not finished.

836
00:29:19,993 --> 00:29:20,994
>> okay very

837
00:29:20,994 --> 00:29:22,994
good, no

838
00:29:22,996 --> 00:29:23,997
other questions.

839
00:29:23,997 --> 00:29:24,998
>> thank you

840
00:29:24,998 --> 00:29:25,999
commissioner ross. Commissioner kaplan.

841
00:29:25,999 --> 00:29:27,999
>>

842
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,300
hi. Thank

843
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:32,500
you for now giving me contextual understanding

844
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,500
of the mural which is

845
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
hard to miss.

846
00:29:38,110 --> 00:29:40,130
this sounds like an

847
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:41,140
exciting product. I just have a couple

848
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:43,140
of

849
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,170
questions about how the space will

850
00:29:44,170 --> 00:29:46,170
be utilized.

851
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,990
maybe we can pull up

852
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:52,390
sheet a 2.1 , the floorplan

853
00:29:52,993 --> 00:29:54,993
of this space.

854
00:29:55,996 --> 00:29:57,996
:

855
00:30:25,993 --> 00:30:27,993
>>

856
00:30:28,996 --> 00:30:30,996
give me one

857
00:30:31,999 --> 00:30:33,999
moment here.

858
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,140
>> it is in the staff .

859
00:31:05,999 --> 00:31:08,100
>> we are working on bringing up the

860
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,100
floor plans

861
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:11,400
and we can proceed with questions.

862
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
>>

863
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:15,800
2 questions. One

864
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,100
has to do with the upper right-hand

865
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,120
corner of the space. Which

866
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,160
on one of the sheets is labeled as an

867
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,160
exit.

868
00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:28,989
and it exits toward santa monica

869
00:31:28,989 --> 00:31:31,989
. I think that is a

870
00:31:31,992 --> 00:31:33,994
pedestrian exit. Just asking.

871
00:31:33,994 --> 00:31:34,995
that's why the plans are helpful.

872
00:31:34,995 --> 00:31:36,995
the 2nd question

873
00:31:37,998 --> 00:31:40,000
I have has to

874
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,800
do with I believe I read that initially

875
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:47,700
and long-term, you anticipate having

876
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,407
3 cars in the showroom.

877
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,410
I can see where 2

878
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:55,150
of them would be positioned.

879
00:31:55,150 --> 00:31:56,160
I think I know where the 3rd one would

880
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,160
be

881
00:31:58,180 --> 00:31:59,190
positioned, but I don't want to assume

882
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:01,190
so

883
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:02,990
I would like you to help me understand that.

884
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:04,992
and I would like a little explanation

885
00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:07,995
of the notes that are on

886
00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:10,395
this sheet on a 2.1.

887
00:32:10,998 --> 00:32:13,998
it says additional automobile to

888
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,400
be shown in 2026 . One car to

889
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,500
be displayed

890
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,700
for the year 2025 which is almost

891
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,700
over already.

892
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:23,100
and you said there is one car now

893
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,100
in

894
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,130
the space. And then calendar year 2026

895
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:28,130
, you

896
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,160
anticipate displaying 2 cars

897
00:32:32,190 --> 00:32:33,200
thereafter, at some point maximum

898
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
3 cars.

899
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,220
>> correct.

900
00:32:37,991 --> 00:32:40,391
>> we are getting there.

901
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
>> and

902
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:51,400
what page?

903
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400
>> a

904
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,700
2.1.

905
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,700
>>

906
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,900
thank you.

907
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400
>> that is a survey.

908
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:25,300
>> I'm

909
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,600
getting that.

910
00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:38,180
that is it I think. Yeah,

911
00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:41,210
so the exit that I have a question about

912
00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:43,991
is in the very upper

913
00:33:43,991 --> 00:33:46,991
right, parallel to santa monica

914
00:33:46,994 --> 00:33:49,394
. On one of the

915
00:33:49,997 --> 00:33:50,998
prior sheets labeled as a exit.

916
00:33:50,998 --> 00:33:51,999
>>

917
00:33:51,999 --> 00:33:53,000
correct, both

918
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,200
of those are existing doors,

919
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,300
we do not plan on using them for customers

920
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,403
but rear labeling for

921
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,700
fire reasons that they are doors people

922
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:02,700
can

923
00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:03,100
use to exit.

924
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,120
>> they would be strictly

925
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,130
emergency exits.

926
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:08,130
>> that's correct.

927
00:34:11,180 --> 00:34:13,180
>>

928
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:16,990
could you tell me where the 3rd car

929
00:34:16,990 --> 00:34:17,991
will be? It seems to me it would be

930
00:34:17,991 --> 00:34:19,991
at the

931
00:34:19,993 --> 00:34:20,994
upper portion. Next to the outdoor patio.

932
00:34:20,994 --> 00:34:22,994
>> that

933
00:34:23,997 --> 00:34:24,998
is correct.

934
00:34:24,998 --> 00:34:25,999
>>

935
00:34:25,999 --> 00:34:27,000
okay for now that's all the questions

936
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,100
I have. Thank you.

937
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,200
>>

938
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,300
thank you, commissioner kaplan, vice

939
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,300
chair

940
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,700
milkowski.

941
00:34:34,700 --> 00:34:36,700
>>

942
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,900
thank you.

943
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,120
could

944
00:34:42,150 --> 00:34:43,160
you please

945
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,180
explain how customers will access

946
00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:47,180
the cars? For

947
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:48,989
test drive?

948
00:34:48,989 --> 00:34:50,989
>> yes, so we

949
00:34:50,991 --> 00:34:51,992
are planning on using the lobby

950
00:34:51,992 --> 00:34:53,994
exit and entrance at the bottom of

951
00:34:53,994 --> 00:34:55,996
the plan that you can

952
00:34:55,996 --> 00:34:57,998
see here. That takes you to the outside

953
00:34:57,998 --> 00:35:01,598
location where the vehicles will have

954
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:04,400
spots reserved.

955
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400
>> reserved

956
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600
spots in the parking garage.

957
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:10,100
in our parking plan we have the

958
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,120
car inside which will not be used

959
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,120
for test drive

960
00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:17,170
and 2 spots in the parking garage

961
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:18,180
that there will be 2 vehicles on site

962
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:20,180
that

963
00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:23,991
they can use for test drives.

964
00:35:23,991 --> 00:35:25,991
as said , those

965
00:35:26,994 --> 00:35:29,997
cars will be pulled out and

966
00:35:29,997 --> 00:35:32,397
they will follow the

967
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
test route.

968
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,300
so, nothing from the dealership will

969
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,500
be pulled out for

970
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:41,800
test drives. Only from the parking garage.

971
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,900
>> understood, thank you. You have

972
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:44,900
a contract

973
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,150
for 2 fixed spaces or its varying?

974
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:51,150
>> with a contract for 2 spaces

975
00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:52,190
and 3

976
00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:54,210
spaces for employees. Customer parking

977
00:35:54,210 --> 00:35:58,221
will be handled by the valet people.

978
00:35:58,992 --> 00:35:59,993
you will driving, the valley will

979
00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:02,996
take it and park the car.

980
00:36:02,996 --> 00:36:04,996
>> thank you. Question .

981
00:36:05,999 --> 00:36:07,999
how

982
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,200
is sales tax impacted or allocated?

983
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,300
>>

984
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,300
sales

985
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,700
tax is under the

986
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:15,800
city's licensing bureau. It will be

987
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
paid in

988
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:20,130
accordance with , I think you

989
00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:21,140
pay the estimated amount or whatever

990
00:36:21,140 --> 00:36:22,150
and it goes into the

991
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:22,649
finance department because the cars

992
00:36:22,649 --> 00:36:23,717
are sold here

993
00:36:23,717 --> 00:36:25,719
the orders are taken in

994
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,720
the city of beverly hills. It has the

995
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,720
nexus of allowing

996
00:36:29,723 --> 00:36:30,724
that.

997
00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:31,725
>> okay. That is good to

998
00:36:31,725 --> 00:36:32,726
know that we'll get our bite of the

999
00:36:32,726 --> 00:36:33,727
sales tax.

1000
00:36:33,727 --> 00:36:35,727
>> a big bite.

1001
00:36:44,738 --> 00:36:46,707
those are my questions. Thank

1002
00:36:46,707 --> 00:36:47,708
you.

1003
00:36:47,708 --> 00:36:48,709
>> thanks. I'm going to follow

1004
00:36:48,709 --> 00:36:49,710
up on

1005
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:50,711
that question. I think the question you

1006
00:36:50,711 --> 00:36:52,711
were answering

1007
00:36:53,714 --> 00:36:56,717
had to do with the beverly hills business tax.

1008
00:36:56,717 --> 00:36:58,719
>> also the sales tax. We pay a business

1009
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,723
license tax based upon the gross revenue.

1010
00:37:02,723 --> 00:37:04,725
and then sales tax, which

1011
00:37:04,725 --> 00:37:05,726
is a state amount of money that is

1012
00:37:05,726 --> 00:37:07,726
collected.

1013
00:37:07,728 --> 00:37:08,729
because the orders are taken in the city

1014
00:37:08,729 --> 00:37:10,729
of beverly

1015
00:37:11,732 --> 00:37:12,733
hills, the state rehits to the city

1016
00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:13,734
of

1017
00:37:13,734 --> 00:37:14,735
beverly hills. Don't hold me. I don't

1018
00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:16,737
know the exact number.

1019
00:37:16,737 --> 00:37:19,706
but I think it is 1% of the sale.

1020
00:37:19,706 --> 00:37:20,707
>> right. But the more significant

1021
00:37:20,707 --> 00:37:22,707
portion of

1022
00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:24,711
revenue, if I'm not mistaken,

1023
00:37:24,711 --> 00:37:26,713
that come to the city is in the form

1024
00:37:26,713 --> 00:37:28,715
of business tax paid directly to

1025
00:37:28,715 --> 00:37:29,716
the city as opposed to the allocation of

1026
00:37:29,716 --> 00:37:31,716
the sales

1027
00:37:31,718 --> 00:37:32,719
tax.

1028
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,720
>> that's my understanding. >>

1029
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,720
okay.

1030
00:37:35,722 --> 00:37:38,725
let focus on the business tax. The

1031
00:37:38,725 --> 00:37:40,727
sales, if they're taking place online,

1032
00:37:40,727 --> 00:37:44,731
and they're not taking place in the

1033
00:37:44,731 --> 00:37:47,731
showroom, and the delivery is

1034
00:37:47,734 --> 00:37:49,734
being done

1035
00:37:49,736 --> 00:37:50,737
in torrance, what determines where

1036
00:37:50,737 --> 00:37:53,137
the business tax --

1037
00:37:53,707 --> 00:37:56,710
when you fill out that estimate

1038
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:57,711
on the beverly hills tax form, what

1039
00:37:57,711 --> 00:37:58,712
revenue are

1040
00:37:58,712 --> 00:37:59,713
you including. In if the sale is online and

1041
00:37:59,713 --> 00:38:01,713
the

1042
00:38:01,715 --> 00:38:02,716
delivery is taken outside of the city of beverly

1043
00:38:02,716 --> 00:38:04,716
hills.

1044
00:38:04,718 --> 00:38:05,719
>> we had this question come up once

1045
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,719
before from

1046
00:38:08,722 --> 00:38:10,722
another auto

1047
00:38:11,725 --> 00:38:14,728
dealership. And now mr. Muir, who is

1048
00:38:14,728 --> 00:38:17,728
the city's treasurer? Finance director.

1049
00:38:17,731 --> 00:38:20,731
okay. Has determined that any

1050
00:38:20,734 --> 00:38:23,737
order that is written in beverly

1051
00:38:23,737 --> 00:38:25,706
hills, all right?

1052
00:38:25,706 --> 00:38:26,707
my understanding is that any order

1053
00:38:26,707 --> 00:38:28,707
written

1054
00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:32,713
in beverly hills incurs taxes. Okay?

1055
00:38:32,713 --> 00:38:33,714
>> but if it's placed online -->> it

1056
00:38:33,714 --> 00:38:34,715
doesn't

1057
00:38:34,715 --> 00:38:35,716
matter if it is placed online or not.

1058
00:38:35,716 --> 00:38:37,716
it is

1059
00:38:37,718 --> 00:38:39,720
where it is written and where it is written

1060
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,722
the street city of beverly hills.

1061
00:38:41,722 --> 00:38:44,122
>> anyone who places an

1062
00:38:44,725 --> 00:38:46,725
order online with

1063
00:38:47,728 --> 00:38:48,729
sony mobility of america, even if

1064
00:38:48,729 --> 00:38:50,729
they

1065
00:38:50,731 --> 00:38:51,732
live in san francisco or las vegas

1066
00:38:51,732 --> 00:38:53,732
or

1067
00:38:53,734 --> 00:38:54,735
phoenix --

1068
00:38:54,735 --> 00:38:56,737
>> if the order is written

1069
00:38:56,737 --> 00:38:57,738
in beverly hills --

1070
00:38:57,738 --> 00:38:58,705
>>

1071
00:38:58,705 --> 00:38:59,706
so what will determine if it was written

1072
00:38:59,706 --> 00:39:02,709
in beverly hills if the order is

1073
00:39:02,709 --> 00:39:05,712
placed online? You have a couple

1074
00:39:05,712 --> 00:39:06,713
locations, right?

1075
00:39:06,713 --> 00:39:07,714
>> we have a couple

1076
00:39:07,714 --> 00:39:08,715
locations.

1077
00:39:08,715 --> 00:39:11,718
our intention is to do all the

1078
00:39:11,718 --> 00:39:13,720
paperwork online. So I think it

1079
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:14,721
is something we have to discuss further.

1080
00:39:14,721 --> 00:39:16,721
I'm not

1081
00:39:16,723 --> 00:39:17,724
aware of us saying specifically it would

1082
00:39:17,724 --> 00:39:20,727
be to beverly hills or not.

1083
00:39:20,727 --> 00:39:21,728
it is meant to be all done online.

1084
00:39:21,728 --> 00:39:23,728
>>

1085
00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:26,730
all done online. But again,

1086
00:39:26,733 --> 00:39:27,734
under whose city's jurisdiction?

1087
00:39:27,734 --> 00:39:29,734
>> if you're

1088
00:39:29,736 --> 00:39:31,705
going to order the car in san diego, that

1089
00:39:31,705 --> 00:39:32,706
is not going to be considered beverly

1090
00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:34,706
hills.

1091
00:39:35,709 --> 00:39:37,711
if it is ordered through the showroom in

1092
00:39:37,711 --> 00:39:38,712
the city of beverly hills, according

1093
00:39:38,712 --> 00:39:40,712
to what has

1094
00:39:41,715 --> 00:39:42,716
happened in the past, that is considered to

1095
00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:43,717
be

1096
00:39:43,717 --> 00:39:44,718
a taxable event in beverly hills.

1097
00:39:44,718 --> 00:39:46,718
>> and again, I

1098
00:39:47,721 --> 00:39:48,722
don't mean to be repeating myself.

1099
00:39:48,722 --> 00:39:49,723
what determines whether or

1100
00:39:49,723 --> 00:39:50,724
not it is ordered through the showroom

1101
00:39:50,724 --> 00:39:53,727
in beverly hills if someone is doing

1102
00:39:53,727 --> 00:39:54,728
it at their home online and

1103
00:39:54,728 --> 00:39:56,730
they do not live in beverly hills.

1104
00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:58,732
>> we reach out to our

1105
00:39:58,732 --> 00:39:59,733
finance department as well and I'll

1106
00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:02,736
turn it over to miss gutierrez

1107
00:40:02,736 --> 00:40:05,706
to provide some, hopefully some clarification.

1108
00:40:05,706 --> 00:40:08,106
>> great. Looking for clarification.

1109
00:40:08,709 --> 00:40:09,710
>> it really depends on the way that

1110
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:10,711
afeela

1111
00:40:10,711 --> 00:40:11,712
has basically structured their business.

1112
00:40:11,712 --> 00:40:13,712
in

1113
00:40:14,715 --> 00:40:16,717
this case, it sounds like he's saying they have

1114
00:40:16,717 --> 00:40:17,718
set up their business in a way that

1115
00:40:17,718 --> 00:40:19,718
they have determined

1116
00:40:20,721 --> 00:40:21,722
their cell's desk to be the city of

1117
00:40:21,722 --> 00:40:23,722
beverly hills.

1118
00:40:23,724 --> 00:40:25,726
>> that's not what jay just

1119
00:40:25,726 --> 00:40:26,727
that.

1120
00:40:26,727 --> 00:40:27,728
>> I cannot confirm that is

1121
00:40:27,728 --> 00:40:29,728
how our

1122
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:30,731
business model is.

1123
00:40:30,731 --> 00:40:31,732
>> so I think it

1124
00:40:31,732 --> 00:40:32,733
depends on

1125
00:40:32,733 --> 00:40:33,734
where that ultimate sales desk is

1126
00:40:33,734 --> 00:40:35,734
located.

1127
00:40:35,736 --> 00:40:36,737
if that sales desk is located in the

1128
00:40:36,737 --> 00:40:38,705
city

1129
00:40:38,705 --> 00:40:41,105
of beverly hills, then

1130
00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:44,708
this theory, the city receives

1131
00:40:45,712 --> 00:40:46,713
the portion of the sales tax.

1132
00:40:46,713 --> 00:40:47,714
>>

1133
00:40:47,714 --> 00:40:48,715
if the sales desk is located in another

1134
00:40:48,715 --> 00:40:50,715
location,

1135
00:40:50,717 --> 00:40:51,718
perhaps as part of a corporate office in

1136
00:40:51,718 --> 00:40:53,718
a

1137
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:54,721
different city, the sales tax would

1138
00:40:54,721 --> 00:40:55,722
be allocated to

1139
00:40:55,722 --> 00:40:56,723
that location.

1140
00:40:56,723 --> 00:40:57,724
>> the sales tax and

1141
00:40:57,724 --> 00:40:58,725
will the business

1142
00:40:58,725 --> 00:40:59,726
tax.

1143
00:40:59,726 --> 00:41:00,727
>> I think the information that

1144
00:41:00,727 --> 00:41:02,727
I have

1145
00:41:02,729 --> 00:41:03,730
is specific to sales tax.

1146
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:04,731
>> I think

1147
00:41:04,731 --> 00:41:06,731
since

1148
00:41:06,733 --> 00:41:07,734
the business tax is based on the

1149
00:41:07,734 --> 00:41:09,736
grocery seats if the sales are not

1150
00:41:09,736 --> 00:41:10,737
being booked

1151
00:41:10,737 --> 00:41:12,706
here, presumably there would be some in-person

1152
00:41:12,706 --> 00:41:14,708
sales. So there would be --

1153
00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:15,709
>> it sounds like there are no in-person

1154
00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:17,709
sales.

1155
00:41:17,711 --> 00:41:18,712
>> that's not correct. >> so any online

1156
00:41:18,712 --> 00:41:19,713
sales,

1157
00:41:19,713 --> 00:41:21,715
if they're being booked outside of

1158
00:41:21,715 --> 00:41:23,717
the city, the sales

1159
00:41:23,717 --> 00:41:24,718
tax would not count toward the gross

1160
00:41:24,718 --> 00:41:26,718
revenue --

1161
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:27,721
>> I'll give you an opportunity to you answer in

1162
00:41:27,721 --> 00:41:28,722
a

1163
00:41:28,722 --> 00:41:30,724
second. I want to tell you what I'm

1164
00:41:30,724 --> 00:41:32,726
hearing. I'm hearing that there

1165
00:41:32,726 --> 00:41:34,728
is no commitment yet as to where the

1166
00:41:34,728 --> 00:41:36,730
sales will be booked. They may be

1167
00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:38,732
in beverly hills. They may

1168
00:41:38,732 --> 00:41:39,733
not be in beverly hills. It's entirely

1169
00:41:39,733 --> 00:41:41,733
possible

1170
00:41:41,735 --> 00:41:42,736
that 100% of the sales online for

1171
00:41:42,736 --> 00:41:44,736
the

1172
00:41:44,738 --> 00:41:45,706
afeela cars will be booked in a location

1173
00:41:45,706 --> 00:41:47,706
outside beverly

1174
00:41:47,708 --> 00:41:48,709
hills. In which case, if what I'm

1175
00:41:48,709 --> 00:41:51,109
hearing is correct, the

1176
00:41:51,712 --> 00:41:53,712
city will not

1177
00:41:53,714 --> 00:41:54,715
get anyany benefit out of the revenue

1178
00:41:54,715 --> 00:41:56,715
associated

1179
00:41:57,718 --> 00:41:59,718
with this location.

1180
00:42:00,721 --> 00:42:02,723
now I'll let you

1181
00:42:02,723 --> 00:42:03,724
comment.

1182
00:42:03,724 --> 00:42:04,725
>> let me comment first of

1183
00:42:04,725 --> 00:42:06,725
all.

1184
00:42:06,727 --> 00:42:08,727
there will be

1185
00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:11,732
onsite people coming in to buy.

1186
00:42:11,732 --> 00:42:12,733
once you come in, you will use, you

1187
00:42:12,733 --> 00:42:14,733
might

1188
00:42:14,735 --> 00:42:15,736
want to correct me if I say something wrong.

1189
00:42:15,736 --> 00:42:17,736
there will

1190
00:42:18,705 --> 00:42:20,705
be a

1191
00:42:20,707 --> 00:42:21,708
computer. You will order off the computer

1192
00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,708
but that

1193
00:42:24,711 --> 00:42:27,714
computer is related to beverly hills.

1194
00:42:27,714 --> 00:42:29,716
those are definite whether

1195
00:42:29,716 --> 00:42:30,717
you walk in or you order through the

1196
00:42:30,717 --> 00:42:32,717
beverly hills location.

1197
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,720
if you live in let's say san fernando

1198
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:34,721
valley, and you

1199
00:42:34,721 --> 00:42:36,723
order, that order come through beverly

1200
00:42:36,723 --> 00:42:38,723
hills. There

1201
00:42:38,725 --> 00:42:39,726
is no location at that particular, in

1202
00:42:39,726 --> 00:42:41,726
the

1203
00:42:42,729 --> 00:42:43,730
valley. It come to the beverly hills

1204
00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:45,732
hills online. In addition to that, we

1205
00:42:45,732 --> 00:42:48,735
have a finance person in the

1206
00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:51,738
city of beverly hills. So unless you're

1207
00:42:51,738 --> 00:42:53,707
paying all cash, I would say, is that

1208
00:42:53,707 --> 00:42:54,708
correct? The people come into the

1209
00:42:54,708 --> 00:42:56,708
finance department.

1210
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:57,711
the finance people will write write

1211
00:42:57,711 --> 00:42:59,711
their particular

1212
00:42:59,713 --> 00:43:02,716
part of it. It will be determined to

1213
00:43:02,716 --> 00:43:05,719
be a beverly hills sale on that basis.

1214
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,720
if you're in san diego, all right?

1215
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,720
then you wouldn't

1216
00:43:08,722 --> 00:43:09,723
be there. You would be going down

1217
00:43:09,723 --> 00:43:12,123
to there. If you're

1218
00:43:12,726 --> 00:43:14,728
in san jose, the san jose store

1219
00:43:14,728 --> 00:43:15,729
is already open. Then that would go

1220
00:43:15,729 --> 00:43:17,729
out of san

1221
00:43:18,732 --> 00:43:20,734
jose. But the intent is to bring

1222
00:43:20,734 --> 00:43:21,735
people into the showroom so that they

1223
00:43:21,735 --> 00:43:23,735
can see

1224
00:43:24,738 --> 00:43:27,708
the car. They can order on our computer.

1225
00:43:27,708 --> 00:43:28,709
and at the computer, then what would

1226
00:43:28,709 --> 00:43:30,711
happen is that would be booked as

1227
00:43:30,711 --> 00:43:31,712
a beverly hills sale.

1228
00:43:31,712 --> 00:43:33,712
>> I'm

1229
00:43:33,714 --> 00:43:35,716
going to ask the same question of

1230
00:43:35,716 --> 00:43:36,717
you. You were the one who just said

1231
00:43:36,717 --> 00:43:38,719
you had no commitment

1232
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,720
yet that online sales would be booked

1233
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,722
out of beverly hills. Can

1234
00:43:41,722 --> 00:43:42,723
you comment on what mr. Fisher just

1235
00:43:42,723 --> 00:43:44,723
said about the

1236
00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:46,727
process?

1237
00:43:46,727 --> 00:43:47,728
>> yes, yes. What I can say

1238
00:43:47,728 --> 00:43:48,729
is at

1239
00:43:48,729 --> 00:43:49,730
this moment, we are currently taking

1240
00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:50,731
reservations, throws are

1241
00:43:50,731 --> 00:43:51,732
booked on ipads or personal computers

1242
00:43:51,732 --> 00:43:53,732
at home.

1243
00:43:53,734 --> 00:43:54,735
the actual ordering process itself

1244
00:43:54,735 --> 00:43:56,737
is still yet to

1245
00:43:56,737 --> 00:43:58,705
be determined. We are not at the phase

1246
00:43:58,705 --> 00:44:00,707
of finalizing all that information.

1247
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:02,709
but that is something

1248
00:44:02,709 --> 00:44:03,710
that we can discuss. I have to discuss

1249
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:04,711
with our lawyers

1250
00:44:04,711 --> 00:44:06,713
back in the office as well. Right

1251
00:44:06,713 --> 00:44:09,716
now, what we are hoping to

1252
00:44:09,716 --> 00:44:12,719
do, at left a for the year of 2025, we

1253
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,119
are primarily taking reservations

1254
00:44:15,722 --> 00:44:16,723
at those locations.

1255
00:44:16,723 --> 00:44:18,723
>> so you may

1256
00:44:18,725 --> 00:44:19,726
or may not have people ordering on

1257
00:44:19,726 --> 00:44:21,726
computers in

1258
00:44:21,728 --> 00:44:22,729
the store.

1259
00:44:22,729 --> 00:44:24,729
>> that's

1260
00:44:24,731 --> 00:44:25,732
correct.

1261
00:44:25,732 --> 00:44:27,732
>> that's different --

1262
00:44:27,734 --> 00:44:29,736
>> it would be dependent on inventory

1263
00:44:29,736 --> 00:44:30,737
and how we are, how reservations are

1264
00:44:30,737 --> 00:44:32,706
going.

1265
00:44:32,706 --> 00:44:34,708
as of right now, our plan is to be able to have

1266
00:44:34,708 --> 00:44:36,710
a reservation attached with every

1267
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:39,110
vehicle that we sell.

1268
00:44:39,713 --> 00:44:42,716
which would be an advance. But we

1269
00:44:42,716 --> 00:44:43,717
don't plan on having as mentioned,

1270
00:44:43,717 --> 00:44:44,718
inventory in

1271
00:44:44,718 --> 00:44:45,719
the store for customers to be able

1272
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,721
to purchase. So that

1273
00:44:47,721 --> 00:44:48,722
is something we would have to discuss in terms of

1274
00:44:48,722 --> 00:44:50,722
ordering

1275
00:44:50,724 --> 00:44:51,725
itself.

1276
00:44:51,725 --> 00:44:52,726
>> I'm not questioning the

1277
00:44:52,726 --> 00:44:54,728
model. It it is

1278
00:44:54,728 --> 00:44:56,730
a perfectly fine model. But if

1279
00:44:56,730 --> 00:44:57,731
I'm one of your car buyers, I think

1280
00:44:57,731 --> 00:44:59,731
what I'm likely

1281
00:45:00,734 --> 00:45:01,735
to do is come into the showroom. Do

1282
00:45:01,735 --> 00:45:02,736
the

1283
00:45:02,736 --> 00:45:03,737
test drive. Do all the research that

1284
00:45:03,737 --> 00:45:06,137
I want. Say, all

1285
00:45:06,707 --> 00:45:07,708
right. Terrific. And then go home and

1286
00:45:07,708 --> 00:45:08,709
then in

1287
00:45:08,709 --> 00:45:09,710
the next day or two decide at home

1288
00:45:09,710 --> 00:45:11,710
what I'm

1289
00:45:12,713 --> 00:45:15,716
going to buy. You may have people

1290
00:45:15,716 --> 00:45:16,717
who are willing to sit at a computer in

1291
00:45:16,717 --> 00:45:17,718
the

1292
00:45:17,718 --> 00:45:18,719
showroom and buy it at that moment.

1293
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,719
may

1294
00:45:21,722 --> 00:45:22,723
guess, and I'm only doing it

1295
00:45:22,723 --> 00:45:24,725
based on what I would like to do, the

1296
00:45:24,725 --> 00:45:27,725
majority of people probably wouldn't

1297
00:45:27,728 --> 00:45:29,730
be actually doing the ordering in

1298
00:45:29,730 --> 00:45:30,731
the store. Assuming you even provide

1299
00:45:30,731 --> 00:45:32,731
that capability.

1300
00:45:33,734 --> 00:45:35,736
>> but there will be salespeople in

1301
00:45:35,736 --> 00:45:36,737
there. The salespeople in the store to

1302
00:45:36,737 --> 00:45:38,737
entice the

1303
00:45:39,706 --> 00:45:42,709
people to buy in the store.

1304
00:45:42,709 --> 00:45:45,709
>> I'm just reiterating what it

1305
00:45:45,712 --> 00:45:47,712
I'm hearing.

1306
00:45:47,714 --> 00:45:48,715
>> in the other studios that we have

1307
00:45:48,715 --> 00:45:50,715
in san

1308
00:45:50,717 --> 00:45:51,718
jose, we do have salespeople with

1309
00:45:51,718 --> 00:45:53,718
ipads had a

1310
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:54,721
take reservations and a lot of people

1311
00:45:54,721 --> 00:45:56,721
are comfortable

1312
00:45:57,724 --> 00:45:59,724
making reservations.

1313
00:45:59,726 --> 00:46:00,727
>> look. I love the idea of the car

1314
00:46:00,727 --> 00:46:02,727
and all that.

1315
00:46:02,729 --> 00:46:03,730
I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm

1316
00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:06,130
trying to get to

1317
00:46:06,733 --> 00:46:09,736
the facts. And at this point,

1318
00:46:09,736 --> 00:46:10,737
from what I'm hearing, there is, let's

1319
00:46:10,737 --> 00:46:11,738
say,

1320
00:46:11,738 --> 00:46:12,706
no guarantee, maybe some probability

1321
00:46:12,706 --> 00:46:14,706
but no

1322
00:46:15,709 --> 00:46:18,712
guarantee that any of the sales are

1323
00:46:18,712 --> 00:46:21,715
going to be generated in a

1324
00:46:21,715 --> 00:46:23,715
manner to

1325
00:46:24,718 --> 00:46:27,118
provide to the city

1326
00:46:27,721 --> 00:46:28,722
of beverly hills.

1327
00:46:28,722 --> 00:46:29,723
>> I understand.

1328
00:46:29,723 --> 00:46:30,724
>> the

1329
00:46:30,724 --> 00:46:32,726
next, the only other question I had,

1330
00:46:32,726 --> 00:46:33,727
it some of the other commissioners

1331
00:46:33,727 --> 00:46:35,727
asked the questions.

1332
00:46:36,730 --> 00:46:39,733
maybe this is more for staff

1333
00:46:39,733 --> 00:46:41,733
than for you.

1334
00:46:42,736 --> 00:46:43,737
so this went to the architectural

1335
00:46:43,737 --> 00:46:45,706
design commission

1336
00:46:45,706 --> 00:46:48,709
first in support of the city

1337
00:46:48,709 --> 00:46:51,709
manager's approval for this event.

1338
00:46:51,712 --> 00:46:55,716
>> that's correct. >> I think, I may not

1339
00:46:55,716 --> 00:46:57,718
be --if I'm wrong, I'll ask mr.

1340
00:46:57,718 --> 00:46:58,719
mayor to come up, I think that may

1341
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,719
be

1342
00:47:00,721 --> 00:47:01,722
one of the process elements that would seem

1343
00:47:01,722 --> 00:47:03,724
unusual in this case.

1344
00:47:03,724 --> 00:47:04,725
typically we see thing come before

1345
00:47:04,725 --> 00:47:06,725
the planning

1346
00:47:07,728 --> 00:47:08,729
commission first and then the

1347
00:47:08,729 --> 00:47:10,731
architectural design commission. In

1348
00:47:10,731 --> 00:47:12,733
this case, it sound

1349
00:47:12,733 --> 00:47:15,736
like it went to the architectural

1350
00:47:15,736 --> 00:47:16,737
design commission first and then the

1351
00:47:16,737 --> 00:47:18,739
planning commission. I don't have

1352
00:47:18,739 --> 00:47:22,709
a stake in which goes first but I

1353
00:47:22,709 --> 00:47:25,712
wonder if you would comment on how

1354
00:47:25,712 --> 00:47:27,714
unusual that is, and why

1355
00:47:27,714 --> 00:47:28,715
that might be aa more common brass

1356
00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:30,715
than we

1357
00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:31,718
think.

1358
00:47:31,718 --> 00:47:32,719
>> our typical process is an

1359
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,720
applicant would

1360
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:34,721
first receive their land use entitlement,

1361
00:47:34,721 --> 00:47:36,721
either by

1362
00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,726
the director, depending on the scale,

1363
00:47:39,726 --> 00:47:40,727
or the planning commission. Then they

1364
00:47:40,727 --> 00:47:42,727
move

1365
00:47:42,729 --> 00:47:43,730
forward through the architectural

1366
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:45,730
review process.

1367
00:47:46,733 --> 00:47:49,133
that's a standard procedure

1368
00:47:49,736 --> 00:47:51,736
that's followed.

1369
00:47:52,706 --> 00:47:54,708
there are times on a variety of

1370
00:47:54,708 --> 00:47:55,709
factors, on a case by case basis,

1371
00:47:55,709 --> 00:47:58,109
we make a decision

1372
00:47:58,712 --> 00:48:00,714
to take it to the

1373
00:48:00,714 --> 00:48:01,715
architectural commission first. When

1374
00:48:01,715 --> 00:48:03,715
that happens,

1375
00:48:03,717 --> 00:48:06,720
we always have a condition that they get

1376
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:08,722
their approval from the planning commission.

1377
00:48:08,722 --> 00:48:10,724
if there are certain elements of that

1378
00:48:10,724 --> 00:48:12,724
approval that

1379
00:48:12,726 --> 00:48:14,728
are contingent upon planning commissioner

1380
00:48:14,728 --> 00:48:16,730
approval, that they obtain those.

1381
00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:19,730
so it is something that

1382
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:22,133
we see on occasion.

1383
00:48:22,736 --> 00:48:25,706
it is not common but not

1384
00:48:25,706 --> 00:48:27,708
unheard of for that to happen.

1385
00:48:27,708 --> 00:48:28,709
I don't think anything was out of the

1386
00:48:28,709 --> 00:48:30,709
ordinary in this

1387
00:48:31,712 --> 00:48:32,713
case.

1388
00:48:32,713 --> 00:48:33,714
>> so it was a not

1389
00:48:33,714 --> 00:48:34,715
common process but certainly was not

1390
00:48:34,715 --> 00:48:36,715
completely out of

1391
00:48:36,717 --> 00:48:39,720
the ordinary for it to go through

1392
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:40,721
the architectural review process first.

1393
00:48:40,721 --> 00:48:42,723
it did go will you

1394
00:48:42,723 --> 00:48:43,724
the process, they did review the signs and

1395
00:48:43,724 --> 00:48:45,724
the mural and

1396
00:48:45,726 --> 00:48:46,727
did approve all that'll in conjunction

1397
00:48:46,727 --> 00:48:48,727
with the

1398
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:50,731
event.

1399
00:48:50,731 --> 00:48:52,731
>> that's correct. >> and

1400
00:48:52,733 --> 00:48:55,736
then you mentioned this event for

1401
00:48:55,736 --> 00:48:58,736
30 days. What 30 days were those?

1402
00:48:58,739 --> 00:49:00,739
>> november 19th

1403
00:49:01,708 --> 00:49:02,709
to december --november the 19th?

1404
00:49:02,709 --> 00:49:03,710
>>

1405
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:04,711
right. That was in conjunction with

1406
00:49:04,711 --> 00:49:06,711
the auto

1407
00:49:06,713 --> 00:49:07,714
show that started then. The only reason I

1408
00:49:07,714 --> 00:49:09,714
ask that, I

1409
00:49:10,717 --> 00:49:13,717
did drive by the location

1410
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,721
the other day and I mean, if

1411
00:49:14,721 --> 00:49:15,722
I didn't know better, I would think

1412
00:49:15,722 --> 00:49:16,723
that this business was operating.

1413
00:49:16,723 --> 00:49:18,723
there were people

1414
00:49:18,725 --> 00:49:19,726
in. There desks, cars. There was a

1415
00:49:19,726 --> 00:49:21,726
car in the

1416
00:49:21,728 --> 00:49:25,732
showroom. There was a desk set up.

1417
00:49:25,732 --> 00:49:27,734
a reception desk set up.

1418
00:49:27,734 --> 00:49:30,737
there were people milling around inside

1419
00:49:30,737 --> 00:49:31,738
the showroom, and look, I don't know what they

1420
00:49:31,738 --> 00:49:32,706
were

1421
00:49:32,706 --> 00:49:34,708
doing. Maybe you can explain to me what

1422
00:49:34,708 --> 00:49:36,710
they were doing. If

1423
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:37,711
I were just a random person walking

1424
00:49:37,711 --> 00:49:38,712
by,

1425
00:49:38,712 --> 00:49:40,714
I would have looked and said, there

1426
00:49:40,714 --> 00:49:41,715
is a new

1427
00:49:41,715 --> 00:49:43,717
dealership opened and operating. Maybe you

1428
00:49:43,717 --> 00:49:46,717
can comment on what I

1429
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:47,721
saw people doing in the showroom just this

1430
00:49:47,721 --> 00:49:48,722
week.

1431
00:49:48,722 --> 00:49:49,723
>> yeah. Myself included, I have been

1432
00:49:49,723 --> 00:49:51,723
there for

1433
00:49:52,726 --> 00:49:54,728
the past few days.

1434
00:49:54,728 --> 00:49:55,729
we have had planning sessions inside

1435
00:49:55,729 --> 00:49:57,729
the showroom. We've

1436
00:49:58,732 --> 00:49:59,733
had people, we had finished --not

1437
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:00,734
finished.

1438
00:50:00,734 --> 00:50:01,735
we had done some additional finishing

1439
00:50:01,735 --> 00:50:03,735
touches

1440
00:50:03,737 --> 00:50:04,738
and construction on the outside that

1441
00:50:04,738 --> 00:50:05,706
were not complete due to the

1442
00:50:05,706 --> 00:50:07,708
rain that occurred right during that

1443
00:50:07,708 --> 00:50:09,708
time.

1444
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:10,711
we also identified the press at that

1445
00:50:10,711 --> 00:50:11,712
time for

1446
00:50:11,712 --> 00:50:13,714
those not willing to attend during

1447
00:50:13,714 --> 00:50:14,715
that time that they can

1448
00:50:14,715 --> 00:50:16,717
schedule other times with us and stop

1449
00:50:16,717 --> 00:50:18,719
by and visit and hence,

1450
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,720
the request for the 30 days just to

1451
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,720
allow time

1452
00:50:22,723 --> 00:50:24,725
for other members to be there as

1453
00:50:24,725 --> 00:50:25,726
well. So it was to make sure that we

1454
00:50:25,726 --> 00:50:27,726
were

1455
00:50:28,729 --> 00:50:29,730
open for press members and then for

1456
00:50:29,730 --> 00:50:31,732
our planning purposes to be operational in

1457
00:50:31,732 --> 00:50:32,733
the future.

1458
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:34,733
>> so then

1459
00:50:34,735 --> 00:50:36,737
I'll go back to

1460
00:50:36,737 --> 00:50:37,738
cindy again. So with whatever approval was

1461
00:50:37,738 --> 00:50:40,138
granted by the city

1462
00:50:40,707 --> 00:50:42,707
manager, everything that

1463
00:50:42,709 --> 00:50:43,710
he just described is consistent with

1464
00:50:43,710 --> 00:50:45,710
that

1465
00:50:45,712 --> 00:50:48,712
approval provided that they weren't

1466
00:50:48,715 --> 00:50:49,716
actually processing anyany of cars.

1467
00:50:49,716 --> 00:50:51,716
it is the

1468
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,722
sale of the car that requires the

1469
00:50:55,722 --> 00:50:57,724
condition of use permit. But all the

1470
00:50:57,724 --> 00:50:58,725
other activity that's were just described

1471
00:50:58,725 --> 00:51:00,727
were covered under the

1472
00:51:00,727 --> 00:51:04,327
30-day window of the city manager.

1473
00:51:04,731 --> 00:51:06,731
>> that's

1474
00:51:07,734 --> 00:51:09,734
correct.

1475
00:51:13,707 --> 00:51:16,107
>> those are may questions.

1476
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:19,110
>> are the tax issues

1477
00:51:19,713 --> 00:51:22,113
we've been discussing relevant

1478
00:51:22,716 --> 00:51:24,716
or

1479
00:51:24,718 --> 00:51:25,719
germane to the decision we are being

1480
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:26,720
asked to make?

1481
00:51:26,720 --> 00:51:27,721
>> I think the

1482
00:51:27,721 --> 00:51:28,722
finding for a conditional use permit

1483
00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:30,722
are generally

1484
00:51:30,724 --> 00:51:31,725
related to, is it compatible to the

1485
00:51:31,725 --> 00:51:33,725
area and

1486
00:51:34,728 --> 00:51:36,728
will there befully

1487
00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:37,731
unintended impacts, particularly with

1488
00:51:37,731 --> 00:51:39,731
traffic,

1489
00:51:40,734 --> 00:51:42,736
vehicle conflicts. I think the focus.

1490
00:51:42,736 --> 00:51:43,737
conversation and if there are any

1491
00:51:43,737 --> 00:51:45,739
conditions imposed should be

1492
00:51:45,739 --> 00:51:46,707
based on those and less having to do

1493
00:51:46,707 --> 00:51:47,708
with the tax issue.

1494
00:51:47,708 --> 00:51:48,709
>>

1495
00:51:48,709 --> 00:51:49,710
the tax issue is somebody else's problem.

1496
00:51:49,710 --> 00:51:51,710
a big problem.

1497
00:51:51,712 --> 00:51:52,713
>> I think it is an informational

1498
00:51:52,713 --> 00:51:54,713
peace for the

1499
00:51:54,715 --> 00:51:55,716
commission.

1500
00:51:55,716 --> 00:51:56,717
>> thank you. >> I brought

1501
00:51:56,717 --> 00:51:58,717
it up,

1502
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,719
one, because I

1503
00:52:01,722 --> 00:52:02,723
wanted to know. It was also listed

1504
00:52:02,723 --> 00:52:04,723
as

1505
00:52:04,725 --> 00:52:07,728
one of the land use elements. It

1506
00:52:07,728 --> 00:52:09,730
was in the packet as one of the elements.

1507
00:52:09,730 --> 00:52:10,731
economic stability is part of the

1508
00:52:10,731 --> 00:52:12,731
analysis

1509
00:52:12,733 --> 00:52:15,733
for approvalapproval of project. But

1510
00:52:16,737 --> 00:52:18,739
anyway, any other questions at the

1511
00:52:18,739 --> 00:52:19,706
moment from commissioners?

1512
00:52:19,706 --> 00:52:20,707
>> the

1513
00:52:20,707 --> 00:52:21,708
cars will be delivered

1514
00:52:21,708 --> 00:52:25,308
in torrance. Am I understanding that

1515
00:52:27,714 --> 00:52:28,715
correctly?

1516
00:52:28,715 --> 00:52:29,716
>> or fraemt.emont. >>

1517
00:52:29,716 --> 00:52:30,717
what if somebody

1518
00:52:30,717 --> 00:52:31,718
wants it delivered to their home?

1519
00:52:31,718 --> 00:52:33,718
>> we are

1520
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:34,721
looking at options for home delivery.

1521
00:52:34,721 --> 00:52:37,121
right now we are

1522
00:52:37,724 --> 00:52:40,727
only looking at those two options.

1523
00:52:40,727 --> 00:52:43,727
>> thank you. Great. Thank you.

1524
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:45,732
so at this time before we move on,

1525
00:52:45,732 --> 00:52:46,733
the applicant has an opportunity,

1526
00:52:46,733 --> 00:52:48,733
if

1527
00:52:48,735 --> 00:52:49,736
you choose to avail yourself ofof

1528
00:52:49,736 --> 00:52:51,736
that, to provide

1529
00:52:52,706 --> 00:52:53,707
any additional comments or rebuttal

1530
00:52:53,707 --> 00:52:54,708
to the

1531
00:52:54,708 --> 00:52:55,709
comments and questions that you've heard at

1532
00:52:55,709 --> 00:52:57,709
this time.

1533
00:52:58,712 --> 00:53:00,712
>> the only comment

1534
00:53:00,714 --> 00:53:01,715
we would make is the fact that we

1535
00:53:01,715 --> 00:53:04,115
look forward to making

1536
00:53:04,718 --> 00:53:07,718
this as our flagship location.

1537
00:53:07,721 --> 00:53:08,722
we believe that by providing this

1538
00:53:08,722 --> 00:53:09,723
car, there will be

1539
00:53:09,723 --> 00:53:10,724
a lot of interest in this car. It

1540
00:53:10,724 --> 00:53:12,724
will drive

1541
00:53:12,726 --> 00:53:16,926
people to the city of beverly hills.

1542
00:53:19,733 --> 00:53:20,734
people will order in the city of beverly

1543
00:53:20,734 --> 00:53:22,734
hills.

1544
00:53:22,736 --> 00:53:24,738
even though jay is not 100% sure.

1545
00:53:24,738 --> 00:53:25,739
in talking to the legal department, the

1546
00:53:25,739 --> 00:53:28,139
legal department has indicate

1547
00:53:28,709 --> 00:53:31,709
to me that the purpose,

1548
00:53:31,712 --> 00:53:34,715
they wouldn't be signing a ease

1549
00:53:34,715 --> 00:53:35,716
and having us here if they didn't

1550
00:53:35,716 --> 00:53:36,717
expect

1551
00:53:36,717 --> 00:53:38,719
to get orders here. The population

1552
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,720
here, the surrounding areas, I

1553
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:41,722
can tell you in century city, we've

1554
00:53:41,722 --> 00:53:43,722
had a tremendous

1555
00:53:44,725 --> 00:53:45,726
amount of people. They ask

1556
00:53:45,726 --> 00:53:47,728
where, is this where your location will

1557
00:53:47,728 --> 00:53:49,728
be? We

1558
00:53:50,731 --> 00:53:52,733
tell them no. The flagship is

1559
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:53,734
in beverly hills. We'll take your

1560
00:53:53,734 --> 00:53:55,734
reservation but

1561
00:53:55,736 --> 00:53:56,737
we're doing business in beverly hills.

1562
00:53:56,737 --> 00:53:57,738
that's

1563
00:53:57,738 --> 00:53:59,706
come directly from the corporate attorneys

1564
00:53:59,706 --> 00:54:00,707
that I've been dealing

1565
00:54:00,707 --> 00:54:02,709
with and that's what our goal is.

1566
00:54:02,709 --> 00:54:03,710
>>

1567
00:54:03,710 --> 00:54:05,712
okay. Thank you. I will invite you

1568
00:54:05,712 --> 00:54:07,712
then to return

1569
00:54:08,715 --> 00:54:10,715
to your seats.

1570
00:54:10,717 --> 00:54:11,718
and is there anyone from the public had a

1571
00:54:11,718 --> 00:54:13,718
would like

1572
00:54:14,721 --> 00:54:17,721
to provide rebuttal to the

1573
00:54:17,724 --> 00:54:20,724
applicants' comments? I see mr.

1574
00:54:20,727 --> 00:54:22,729
mayor, thank you for coming up.

1575
00:54:22,729 --> 00:54:26,733
you will also as the normal guidelines,

1576
00:54:26,733 --> 00:54:28,733
have three minutes.

1577
00:54:29,736 --> 00:54:30,737
>> in previous dealerships

1578
00:54:30,737 --> 00:54:32,706
before you, you've, what you've been

1579
00:54:32,706 --> 00:54:33,707
told here about sales

1580
00:54:33,707 --> 00:54:35,709
tax, business tax and everything else

1581
00:54:35,709 --> 00:54:36,710
is not the same as

1582
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:38,712
what you've been presented before.

1583
00:54:38,712 --> 00:54:40,712
before, a dealer

1584
00:54:41,715 --> 00:54:43,717
was actually saying, well, the sales

1585
00:54:43,717 --> 00:54:44,718
tax is dependent upon where the delivery is.

1586
00:54:44,718 --> 00:54:46,718
that's

1587
00:54:47,721 --> 00:54:49,721
a very important

1588
00:54:49,723 --> 00:54:50,724
component. In the world of financing,

1589
00:54:50,724 --> 00:54:51,725
it depends on

1590
00:54:51,725 --> 00:54:53,727
where the finance headquarters or

1591
00:54:53,727 --> 00:54:56,127
offices are. So for

1592
00:54:56,730 --> 00:54:58,732
example, if you buy

1593
00:54:58,732 --> 00:54:59,733
a lexus in beverly hills, but you

1594
00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:01,733
finance it

1595
00:55:02,736 --> 00:55:04,738
through bmw finance, which is

1596
00:55:04,738 --> 00:55:07,738
located on wilshirewilshire mid city,

1597
00:55:08,709 --> 00:55:10,709
you don't get

1598
00:55:11,712 --> 00:55:14,712
that benefit. Relative to the

1599
00:55:14,715 --> 00:55:16,715
city manager, you

1600
00:55:17,718 --> 00:55:19,720
a prove a special permit. Did he really

1601
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:20,721
say it was okay toto issue building

1602
00:55:20,721 --> 00:55:21,722
permits for

1603
00:55:21,722 --> 00:55:25,322
the interiors? Those were done on

1604
00:55:26,727 --> 00:55:29,730
november 3rd. As to whether this

1605
00:55:29,730 --> 00:55:32,733
is out of sync, try maybe 1

1606
00:55:32,733 --> 00:55:34,735
out of 100. It's not a normal

1607
00:55:34,735 --> 00:55:35,736
course. And then finally, do you like

1608
00:55:35,736 --> 00:55:37,736
that

1609
00:55:37,738 --> 00:55:38,739
mural? If you don't like it, send

1610
00:55:38,739 --> 00:55:39,706
it back to

1611
00:55:39,706 --> 00:55:41,708
the planning commission. Thank you.

1612
00:55:41,708 --> 00:55:43,710
>> thank you very much. >>>

1613
00:55:43,710 --> 00:55:44,711
because by the way, they were very

1614
00:55:44,711 --> 00:55:46,711
conflicted when

1615
00:55:47,714 --> 00:55:49,714
you actually review

1616
00:55:49,716 --> 00:55:50,717
both the transcript as well as the

1617
00:55:50,717 --> 00:55:52,717
tape. Thank you.

1618
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,720
>> thank you for your comments. Well

1619
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:55,720
that,

1620
00:55:55,722 --> 00:55:56,723
the applicant will have one final

1621
00:55:56,723 --> 00:55:58,725
opportunity for rebuttal if

1622
00:55:58,725 --> 00:55:59,726
you would lake the take advantage

1623
00:55:59,726 --> 00:56:01,726
of that. I

1624
00:56:02,729 --> 00:56:05,729
satisfy them shaking their head

1625
00:56:05,732 --> 00:56:08,735
no. So before we close the public

1626
00:56:08,735 --> 00:56:09,736
hearing, I will ask the commissioners if you

1627
00:56:09,736 --> 00:56:10,737
have

1628
00:56:10,737 --> 00:56:11,738
any further questions of the applicant

1629
00:56:11,738 --> 00:56:12,706
as opposed

1630
00:56:12,706 --> 00:56:14,708
to of state of california seeing none, I

1631
00:56:14,708 --> 00:56:17,708
will move to close the

1632
00:56:17,711 --> 00:56:20,714
public hearing now. And move on

1633
00:56:20,714 --> 00:56:23,714
to commissioner deliberations and/or

1634
00:56:23,717 --> 00:56:26,717
questions of staff. Mr. Kaplan?

1635
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,723
would you like to start us off?

1636
00:56:29,723 --> 00:56:32,723
>> I can make the findings

1637
00:56:32,726 --> 00:56:34,726
on this.

1638
00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:38,732
and I think that whether I like the mural or

1639
00:56:38,732 --> 00:56:40,732
not

1640
00:56:41,735 --> 00:56:43,737
is sort of irrelevant to me in terms

1641
00:56:43,737 --> 00:56:44,738
of the decision I make today. It is

1642
00:56:44,738 --> 00:56:47,708
hard to miss the mural.

1643
00:56:47,708 --> 00:56:49,710
so from a marketing

1644
00:56:49,710 --> 00:56:52,710
standpoint, it's probably pretty brilliant.

1645
00:56:53,714 --> 00:56:55,714
you're getting attention

1646
00:56:55,716 --> 00:56:56,717
in advance of the time that you'll

1647
00:56:56,717 --> 00:56:59,720
actually be open open business at

1648
00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:02,720
this location. So I would

1649
00:57:02,723 --> 00:57:04,725
make the findings andand vote

1650
00:57:04,725 --> 00:57:05,726
in support.

1651
00:57:05,726 --> 00:57:06,727
>> commissioner ross?

1652
00:57:06,727 --> 00:57:07,728
>> yeah.

1653
00:57:07,728 --> 00:57:08,729
I can also make the findings and will vote in

1654
00:57:08,729 --> 00:57:09,730
favor of this

1655
00:57:09,730 --> 00:57:11,732
project. I really do appreciate mr.

1656
00:57:11,732 --> 00:57:13,732
mayor,

1657
00:57:13,734 --> 00:57:14,735
when you come to us. We're always

1658
00:57:14,735 --> 00:57:17,735
smarter and better off for

1659
00:57:17,738 --> 00:57:19,706
the input that you provide. The

1660
00:57:19,706 --> 00:57:20,707
tax issues are important but I think

1661
00:57:20,707 --> 00:57:22,707
that's for another

1662
00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:26,710
body and another group to

1663
00:57:26,713 --> 00:57:28,713
evaluate.

1664
00:57:29,716 --> 00:57:32,719
the mural is also in the eye of the

1665
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:34,721
beholder. For the architectural

1666
00:57:34,721 --> 00:57:35,722
commission, they still have jurisdiction

1667
00:57:35,722 --> 00:57:37,722
over

1668
00:57:38,725 --> 00:57:40,725
that, I believe.

1669
00:57:41,728 --> 00:57:44,731
but for me, in terms of land

1670
00:57:44,731 --> 00:57:47,734
use, in terms of economic viability, this

1671
00:57:47,734 --> 00:57:50,134
is a de sishl

1672
00:57:50,737 --> 00:57:52,739
tenant with a desirable

1673
00:57:52,739 --> 00:57:53,707
product at a desirable location. For that

1674
00:57:53,707 --> 00:57:55,707
reason, I

1675
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:58,710
vote in

1676
00:57:58,712 --> 00:57:59,713
favor.

1677
00:57:59,713 --> 00:58:00,714
>> commissioner milkowski?

1678
00:58:00,714 --> 00:58:02,714
>>

1679
00:58:02,716 --> 00:58:05,719
I look forward to seeing the new models

1680
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:08,722
coming out. I think it is beneficial

1681
00:58:08,722 --> 00:58:10,724
to our state. To our

1682
00:58:10,724 --> 00:58:11,725
country, to our environment. I can

1683
00:58:11,725 --> 00:58:13,725
make

1684
00:58:14,728 --> 00:58:15,729
the findings.

1685
00:58:15,729 --> 00:58:17,729
>> thank you. I

1686
00:58:17,731 --> 00:58:18,732
agree with pretty much everything that's

1687
00:58:18,732 --> 00:58:20,732
said.

1688
00:58:20,734 --> 00:58:23,737
I want to reiterate and thank

1689
00:58:23,737 --> 00:58:26,137
mr. Mayor for coming

1690
00:58:26,707 --> 00:58:28,707
in and his

1691
00:58:28,709 --> 00:58:29,710
comments point an light on thing that

1692
00:58:29,710 --> 00:58:32,713
need to be resolved. In terms of

1693
00:58:32,713 --> 00:58:33,714
the issues raised, I'm at left a confident

1694
00:58:33,714 --> 00:58:34,715
with the

1695
00:58:34,715 --> 00:58:35,716
answers I got from staff. While the

1696
00:58:35,716 --> 00:58:38,716
process may have been unusual,

1697
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:39,720
for me my concern was whether it was

1698
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,720
legal.

1699
00:58:41,722 --> 00:58:44,722
whether it was approved. Whether

1700
00:58:44,725 --> 00:58:46,727
someone within the city

1701
00:58:46,727 --> 00:58:47,728
approved what was taking place and whether or

1702
00:58:47,728 --> 00:58:49,728
not the applicant

1703
00:58:50,731 --> 00:58:52,733
was doing something withoutwithout

1704
00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:53,734
appropriate approval independent of whether or

1705
00:58:53,734 --> 00:58:55,734
not it was

1706
00:58:55,736 --> 00:58:56,737
unusual. I thank you for bringing that

1707
00:58:56,737 --> 00:58:58,737
up. We always

1708
00:58:58,739 --> 00:58:59,706
appreciate your comments. With almost to

1709
00:58:59,706 --> 00:59:01,706
the financial

1710
00:59:02,709 --> 00:59:04,709
piece, I just

1711
00:59:05,712 --> 00:59:08,112
wanted clarity. I'm perfectly

1712
00:59:08,715 --> 00:59:11,115
comfortable is that righting

1713
00:59:11,718 --> 00:59:13,718
this project

1714
00:59:14,721 --> 00:59:15,722
as designed independent or whether

1715
00:59:15,722 --> 00:59:17,722
or

1716
00:59:17,724 --> 00:59:18,725
not the city gets revenue. On these

1717
00:59:18,725 --> 00:59:19,726
situations,

1718
00:59:19,726 --> 00:59:20,727
I just like to know what the answer

1719
00:59:20,727 --> 00:59:23,727
is. With that, I would

1720
00:59:23,730 --> 00:59:26,733
also be able to make the findings

1721
00:59:26,733 --> 00:59:29,733
and support this. So with

1722
00:59:29,736 --> 00:59:30,737
that --

1723
00:59:30,737 --> 00:59:31,738
>> chair? >> could I say one

1724
00:59:31,738 --> 00:59:32,739
more thing?

1725
00:59:32,739 --> 00:59:33,707
>> absolutely. >> I would like to

1726
00:59:33,707 --> 00:59:35,707
acknowledge

1727
00:59:35,709 --> 00:59:38,712
the applicant and thank you for playing

1728
00:59:38,712 --> 00:59:41,715
by the rules. Coming to the

1729
00:59:41,715 --> 00:59:44,115
city for a special

1730
00:59:44,718 --> 00:59:46,720
event permit as on opposed

1731
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,721
to just showing up and doing what

1732
00:59:47,721 --> 00:59:50,724
you want to do. Thank you.

1733
00:59:50,724 --> 00:59:53,727
I hope you set an example for others.

1734
00:59:53,727 --> 00:59:54,728
>> thank you, commissioner kaplan.

1735
00:59:54,728 --> 00:59:56,728
I agree with

1736
00:59:56,730 --> 00:59:59,733
that. That was what I was mostly concerned

1737
00:59:59,733 --> 01:00:00,734
about

1738
01:00:00,734 --> 01:00:02,736
and I was happy to hear that everything

1739
01:00:02,736 --> 01:00:06,707
was done by the book. With that, I

1740
01:00:06,707 --> 01:00:07,708
will entertain a

1741
01:00:07,708 --> 01:00:08,709
motion.

1742
01:00:08,709 --> 01:00:09,710
>> I would like to make a

1743
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:11,710
motion

1744
01:00:11,712 --> 01:00:12,713
to approve a resolution of the planning

1745
01:00:12,713 --> 01:00:14,713
commission of the

1746
01:00:14,715 --> 01:00:15,716
city of beverly hills, conditionally

1747
01:00:15,716 --> 01:00:16,717
approving a

1748
01:00:16,717 --> 01:00:18,719
conditional use permit to allow a

1749
01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:20,719
vehicle sale use

1750
01:00:21,722 --> 01:00:23,724
to occupy a ground floor tenant

1751
01:00:23,724 --> 01:00:24,725
space within an existing multiten

1752
01:00:24,725 --> 01:00:26,725
an

1753
01:00:27,728 --> 01:00:30,728
building on the property located

1754
01:00:30,731 --> 01:00:32,731
at

1755
01:00:32,733 --> 01:00:33,734
499 north canon drive. As amended.

1756
01:00:33,734 --> 01:00:35,734
>> second.

1757
01:00:36,737 --> 01:00:39,137
>> will you call the

1758
01:00:39,706 --> 01:00:40,707
roll?

1759
01:00:40,707 --> 01:00:41,708
>> commissioner kaplan?

1760
01:00:41,708 --> 01:00:44,108
>> commissioner ross? Chair wolfe?

1761
01:00:45,712 --> 01:00:47,714
>> yes. >>> I believe there is

1762
01:00:47,714 --> 01:00:48,715
a --

1763
01:00:48,715 --> 01:00:49,716
>> one second. I believe there

1764
01:00:49,716 --> 01:00:50,717
is a city

1765
01:00:50,717 --> 01:00:51,718
attorney statement? We don't want

1766
01:00:51,718 --> 01:00:54,118
to preempt the city

1767
01:00:54,721 --> 01:00:55,722
attorney.

1768
01:00:55,722 --> 01:00:57,724
>> thank you, chair wolfe.

1769
01:00:57,724 --> 01:00:59,724
this is a

1770
01:00:59,726 --> 01:01:02,729
final. The city clerk office has the

1771
01:01:02,729 --> 01:01:03,730
appeals form and an appeals fee will be required.

1772
01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:05,730
>> thank you.

1773
01:01:09,736 --> 01:01:11,736
>> okay.

1774
01:01:15,709 --> 01:01:18,109
so before we get

1775
01:01:18,712 --> 01:01:20,714
into the next item, some of

1776
01:01:20,714 --> 01:01:21,715
the commissioners have some statements

1777
01:01:21,715 --> 01:01:23,715
to make

1778
01:01:24,718 --> 01:01:27,721
and we will begin with commissioner

1779
01:01:27,721 --> 01:01:28,722
kaplan.

1780
01:01:28,722 --> 01:01:30,722
>> I have

1781
01:01:30,724 --> 01:01:33,724
an interest in real property

1782
01:01:33,727 --> 01:01:34,728
located at knee 50 wilshire

1783
01:01:34,728 --> 01:01:36,730
boulevard, suite 402, which is less

1784
01:01:36,730 --> 01:01:39,130
than one quarter mile

1785
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:42,736
from the metro d line rail

1786
01:01:42,736 --> 01:01:44,736
station at

1787
01:01:44,738 --> 01:01:45,739
wilshire boulevard. And directly impacted

1788
01:01:45,739 --> 01:01:47,739
by sb 79.

1789
01:01:48,709 --> 01:01:51,712
this matter has the potential to impact

1790
01:01:51,712 --> 01:01:53,714
the rental value of the property and to

1791
01:01:53,714 --> 01:01:54,715
change the actual or legally allowed

1792
01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:56,715
uses

1793
01:01:56,717 --> 01:01:57,718
of the property. In addition, I also

1794
01:01:57,718 --> 01:01:59,718
have

1795
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:00,721
a financial interest in real property

1796
01:02:00,721 --> 01:02:02,721
located

1797
01:02:03,724 --> 01:02:05,726
at 136 el camino drive which is less

1798
01:02:05,726 --> 01:02:06,727
than one quarter mile from the metro

1799
01:02:06,727 --> 01:02:08,727
d

1800
01:02:09,730 --> 01:02:11,732
line rail station at wilshire

1801
01:02:11,732 --> 01:02:15,736
boulevard. And is also directly impacted by

1802
01:02:15,736 --> 01:02:17,736
sb 79.

1803
01:02:17,738 --> 01:02:18,739
due to these direct impacts, I will

1804
01:02:18,739 --> 01:02:20,707
need

1805
01:02:20,707 --> 01:02:21,708
to recuse from the discussion on this

1806
01:02:21,708 --> 01:02:23,708
matter.

1807
01:02:23,710 --> 01:02:24,711
>> thank you, commissioner kaplan.

1808
01:02:24,711 --> 01:02:25,712
>> I

1809
01:02:25,712 --> 01:02:27,714
have a statement that I would like

1810
01:02:27,714 --> 01:02:28,715
to read. I have a financial interest

1811
01:02:28,715 --> 01:02:30,715
in

1812
01:02:30,717 --> 01:02:32,719
real property located 234 south tower

1813
01:02:32,719 --> 01:02:33,720
drive, unit number 10, which is less

1814
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,120
than one quarter mile

1815
01:02:36,723 --> 01:02:37,724
from the metro d line railrail at

1816
01:02:37,724 --> 01:02:39,724
wilshire

1817
01:02:39,726 --> 01:02:40,727
and la cienega boulevard. And is directly

1818
01:02:40,727 --> 01:02:42,727
magtd

1819
01:02:42,729 --> 01:02:44,731
by sb 79. In addition, my primary

1820
01:02:44,731 --> 01:02:45,732
residence is located less than one

1821
01:02:45,732 --> 01:02:47,732
quarter mile from

1822
01:02:48,735 --> 01:02:51,738
the metro d line rail station.

1823
01:02:51,738 --> 01:02:52,739
and is also directly impacted by sb

1824
01:02:52,739 --> 01:02:54,708
79.

1825
01:02:54,708 --> 01:02:57,108
due to these direct

1826
01:02:57,711 --> 01:02:59,711
impacts,

1827
01:03:03,717 --> 01:03:06,720
I will need to recuse on discussions in

1828
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,720
this matter. Thank

1829
01:03:09,723 --> 01:03:11,723
you. In commissioner

1830
01:03:12,726 --> 01:03:13,727
demeter's absent, I will discuss her

1831
01:03:13,727 --> 01:03:14,728
conflicts.

1832
01:03:14,728 --> 01:03:15,729
her primary residence is located more

1833
01:03:15,729 --> 01:03:17,729
than 500 but

1834
01:03:18,732 --> 01:03:20,734
less than 1,000 feet from

1835
01:03:20,734 --> 01:03:21,735
properties directly impacts by sb

1836
01:03:21,735 --> 01:03:23,735
79.

1837
01:03:24,738 --> 01:03:27,708
these markts impacted properties are

1838
01:03:27,708 --> 01:03:30,108
within one quarter mile

1839
01:03:33,714 --> 01:03:36,114
at wish wilshire boulevard.

1840
01:03:36,717 --> 01:03:38,717
it could market

1841
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,120
her real properties' development

1842
01:03:42,723 --> 01:03:44,723
potential, highest andand

1843
01:03:45,726 --> 01:03:46,727
use, altering traffic level, intense

1844
01:03:46,727 --> 01:03:48,727
at this of

1845
01:03:48,729 --> 01:03:50,731
use, privacy, noise level or air

1846
01:03:50,731 --> 01:03:51,732
quality or market value. Commissioner demeter

1847
01:03:51,732 --> 01:03:53,732
has

1848
01:03:53,734 --> 01:03:54,735
determined that any of the proposed

1849
01:03:54,735 --> 01:03:56,735
sb

1850
01:03:56,737 --> 01:03:57,738
79 alternative plans do have the potential

1851
01:03:57,738 --> 01:03:59,738
to

1852
01:04:00,707 --> 01:04:02,707
impact the

1853
01:04:05,712 --> 01:04:06,713
income-producing income. It could

1854
01:04:06,713 --> 01:04:08,713
crease the

1855
01:04:08,715 --> 01:04:09,716
intensity of use and increase for

1856
01:04:09,716 --> 01:04:11,718
marking in the area.

1857
01:04:11,718 --> 01:04:12,719
she believes any of the alternative

1858
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:14,721
plans could impact the market

1859
01:04:14,721 --> 01:04:17,724
value of her property. Due to these

1860
01:04:17,724 --> 01:04:19,726
stated factors, commissioner demeter

1861
01:04:19,726 --> 01:04:21,728
will also recuse from the discussion of

1862
01:04:21,728 --> 01:04:23,728
this matter.

1863
01:04:27,734 --> 01:04:30,737
>> at this time, the city attorney, mr.

1864
01:04:30,737 --> 01:04:31,738
snow, will sort of describe the process

1865
01:04:31,738 --> 01:04:33,707
that we're going to have to go through at

1866
01:04:33,707 --> 01:04:34,708
this time.

1867
01:04:34,708 --> 01:04:35,709
>> for those

1868
01:04:35,709 --> 01:04:36,710
keeping track of the math, we do not

1869
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:38,710
have a

1870
01:04:39,713 --> 01:04:40,714
quorum for this matter in light of

1871
01:04:40,714 --> 01:04:42,714
the

1872
01:04:42,716 --> 01:04:44,718
conflicts. The fair political

1873
01:04:44,718 --> 01:04:45,719
practicespractices has articulated some

1874
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:47,719
rules on what

1875
01:04:48,722 --> 01:04:50,724
can happen in this circumstance. It is

1876
01:04:50,724 --> 01:04:51,725
called legally required participation.

1877
01:04:51,725 --> 01:04:53,725
and that is

1878
01:04:54,728 --> 01:04:57,731
when there is no other alternative

1879
01:04:57,731 --> 01:05:00,734
wayway a decision can be made without

1880
01:05:00,734 --> 01:05:02,736
the involvement of an

1881
01:05:02,736 --> 01:05:03,737
otherwise conflicted official. In

1882
01:05:03,737 --> 01:05:05,737
this

1883
01:05:06,707 --> 01:05:09,107
case, we've met that

1884
01:05:09,710 --> 01:05:11,712
criteria as it goes with the planning commission.

1885
01:05:11,712 --> 01:05:12,713
making recommendations to the city council

1886
01:05:12,713 --> 01:05:15,113
as to general plan

1887
01:05:15,716 --> 01:05:18,716
amendments and zoning map and

1888
01:05:18,719 --> 01:05:21,719
text amendments. There is no

1889
01:05:21,722 --> 01:05:22,723
other agency who is able to fulfill

1890
01:05:22,723 --> 01:05:24,723
that

1891
01:05:24,725 --> 01:05:25,726
function. Since there is no other

1892
01:05:25,726 --> 01:05:27,726
way

1893
01:05:27,728 --> 01:05:29,728
to

1894
01:05:30,731 --> 01:05:31,732
accomplish that, in this circumstance, with

1895
01:05:31,732 --> 01:05:33,732
a we

1896
01:05:33,734 --> 01:05:36,737
will do is have a random

1897
01:05:36,737 --> 01:05:38,739
selection process. One of the three

1898
01:05:38,739 --> 01:05:39,740
commissioners will be selected to

1899
01:05:39,740 --> 01:05:42,140
participate in the proceedings.

1900
01:05:42,709 --> 01:05:45,712
obviously, if it is either chair

1901
01:05:45,712 --> 01:05:48,715
wolfe or commissioner kaplan, we would proceed

1902
01:05:48,715 --> 01:05:50,717
today. If it is commissioner demeter,

1903
01:05:50,717 --> 01:05:51,718
the meeting would be continued to

1904
01:05:51,718 --> 01:05:54,118
allow her participation on

1905
01:05:54,721 --> 01:05:55,722
the matter. At this point, it looks

1906
01:05:55,722 --> 01:05:57,722
like that would

1907
01:05:58,725 --> 01:06:01,725
be 9:00 on monday morning. So

1908
01:06:01,728 --> 01:06:02,729
with that, I'll turn it

1909
01:06:02,729 --> 01:06:04,731
over to miss minor who will describe

1910
01:06:04,731 --> 01:06:06,731
the

1911
01:06:07,734 --> 01:06:08,735
random selection process

1912
01:06:08,735 --> 01:06:09,736
and conduct those proceedings.

1913
01:06:09,736 --> 01:06:10,737
>> thank

1914
01:06:10,737 --> 01:06:12,737
you. We have

1915
01:06:12,739 --> 01:06:13,707
three straws that look identical except for

1916
01:06:13,707 --> 01:06:15,707
the length.

1917
01:06:15,709 --> 01:06:16,710
so what will happen is I will take

1918
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:18,710
these

1919
01:06:19,713 --> 01:06:20,714
straws to the dais. Chair

1920
01:06:20,714 --> 01:06:24,718
wolfe, and commissioner kaplan will each draw

1921
01:06:24,718 --> 01:06:28,722
a straw. The length will be concealed.

1922
01:06:28,722 --> 01:06:31,122
the remaining straw will

1923
01:06:31,725 --> 01:06:32,726
be considered commissioner

1924
01:06:32,726 --> 01:06:34,728
demeter's straw. We will lay them out so we can

1925
01:06:34,728 --> 01:06:35,729
see who picked the longest

1926
01:06:35,729 --> 01:06:37,731
straw. That is the person who will

1927
01:06:37,731 --> 01:06:40,131
participate in the discussion.

1928
01:07:31,718 --> 01:07:34,721
I'm not sure if you can see on the camera.

1929
01:07:34,721 --> 01:07:36,723
this is chair wolfe's.

1930
01:07:36,723 --> 01:07:37,724
commissioner wolfe will be the one to

1931
01:07:37,724 --> 01:07:39,724
participate in thethe

1932
01:07:40,727 --> 01:07:41,728
discussion. Oh. There were

1933
01:07:41,728 --> 01:07:42,729
three different lengths. Whichever is the

1934
01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:43,730
longest is the one who participates.

1935
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:45,730
so that's you.

1936
01:07:49,703 --> 01:07:52,103
>> all right then. Lovely.

1937
01:08:58,739 --> 01:09:01,708
all right. I'll give us

1938
01:09:01,708 --> 01:09:03,710
a minute or two for

1939
01:09:03,710 --> 01:09:07,310
our recused commissioner to say goodbye.

1940
01:09:07,714 --> 01:09:11,314
and the others to come back.

1941
01:09:30,737 --> 01:09:31,738
okay then. Moving on to our next item.

1942
01:09:31,738 --> 01:09:33,738
a general

1943
01:09:34,708 --> 01:09:35,709
plan amendment and zone change to amen the

1944
01:09:35,709 --> 01:09:36,710
land

1945
01:09:36,710 --> 01:09:37,711
use map and zoning map and a draft

1946
01:09:37,711 --> 01:09:40,714
ordinance of the city of beverly hills

1947
01:09:40,714 --> 01:09:42,714
amenning various

1948
01:09:42,716 --> 01:09:43,717
sections of the beverly hills municipal

1949
01:09:43,717 --> 01:09:45,717
code to

1950
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:47,721
document an alternative plan pursuant

1951
01:09:47,721 --> 01:09:49,721
to

1952
01:09:49,723 --> 01:09:51,723
senate bill 79. Government

1953
01:09:52,726 --> 01:09:54,726
code section

1954
01:09:55,729 --> 01:09:57,729
65192. 161 a. I

1955
01:09:58,732 --> 01:10:01,735
will first ask my remaining fellow

1956
01:10:01,735 --> 01:10:03,737
commissioners if anyone has any ex

1957
01:10:03,737 --> 01:10:04,738
parte communication.

1958
01:10:04,738 --> 01:10:05,739
>> nor have I.

1959
01:10:05,739 --> 01:10:06,740
may we have

1960
01:10:06,740 --> 01:10:07,708
a staff report?

1961
01:10:07,708 --> 01:10:08,709
>> yes. Thank you.

1962
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:09,710
and good

1963
01:10:09,710 --> 01:10:10,711
afternoon, commissioners. This item is

1964
01:10:10,711 --> 01:10:12,711
a

1965
01:10:13,714 --> 01:10:14,715
review of aa transit oriented development

1966
01:10:14,715 --> 01:10:17,115
alternative plan per sb 79.

1967
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,722
sb 79 is a state law that

1968
01:10:21,722 --> 01:10:24,725
was recently adopted in october of

1969
01:10:24,725 --> 01:10:25,726
this year and becomes effective in

1970
01:10:25,726 --> 01:10:27,726
july of next

1971
01:10:28,729 --> 01:10:30,731
year. And it mandates

1972
01:10:30,731 --> 01:10:31,732
increased density, floor area, and

1973
01:10:31,732 --> 01:10:33,732
height

1974
01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:36,735
on

1975
01:10:40,707 --> 01:10:41,708
cels. The bill does not apply to parcels

1976
01:10:41,708 --> 01:10:43,708
with

1977
01:10:43,710 --> 01:10:45,712
rent stabilized units. And there are

1978
01:10:45,712 --> 01:10:46,713
different zoning regulations set for

1979
01:10:46,713 --> 01:10:48,713
various distances from

1980
01:10:49,716 --> 01:10:50,717
transit and by the time of transit

1981
01:10:50,717 --> 01:10:52,717
stop known

1982
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:55,722
as tiers. The tier 1 standards for

1983
01:10:55,722 --> 01:10:58,725
the quarter mile apply to the

1984
01:10:58,725 --> 01:11:00,727
radius, the quarter-mile radius

1985
01:11:00,727 --> 01:11:03,727
from following metro stations which

1986
01:11:03,730 --> 01:11:07,330
are coughed as tier 11 metro stops.

1987
01:11:07,734 --> 01:11:10,737
they are at la cienega and

1988
01:11:10,737 --> 01:11:13,707
wilshire boulevard, reaves drive and wilshire

1989
01:11:13,707 --> 01:11:15,707
boulevard, and constellation

1990
01:11:15,709 --> 01:11:16,710
boulevard and avenue of the stars.

1991
01:11:16,710 --> 01:11:19,110
the last one is

1992
01:11:19,713 --> 01:11:21,715
in century city in

1993
01:11:21,715 --> 01:11:22,716
the city of los angeles. There are also

1994
01:11:22,716 --> 01:11:24,716
tier 1 standards

1995
01:11:24,718 --> 01:11:25,719
for the quarter to half mile radius.

1996
01:11:25,719 --> 01:11:28,119
however, these only apply

1997
01:11:28,722 --> 01:11:29,723
to cities with populations of 35,000

1998
01:11:29,723 --> 01:11:31,723
or

1999
01:11:31,725 --> 01:11:32,726
more and so they do not apply to the

2000
01:11:32,726 --> 01:11:33,727
city

2001
01:11:33,727 --> 01:11:34,728
of beverly hills. However, the half

2002
01:11:34,728 --> 01:11:36,728
mail radius is

2003
01:11:37,731 --> 01:11:39,733
considered the transit oriented development

2004
01:11:39,733 --> 01:11:40,734
zone and therefore, it is eligible

2005
01:11:40,734 --> 01:11:43,734
for use within the alternative

2006
01:11:43,737 --> 01:11:45,739
plan as confirmed. And then there

2007
01:11:45,739 --> 01:11:46,740
are tier 2 standards also in the state

2008
01:11:46,740 --> 01:11:48,709
law

2009
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:49,710
that do not apply to beverly hills as

2010
01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:51,710
we do not

2011
01:11:52,713 --> 01:11:55,716
have any tier 2 stops within the city.

2012
01:11:55,716 --> 01:11:57,718
and staff has repaired a map

2013
01:11:57,718 --> 01:11:58,719
showing the quarter mile radius from

2014
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:00,719
the

2015
01:12:00,721 --> 01:12:01,722
transit stops and it is measured in

2016
01:12:01,722 --> 01:12:04,122
a straight line distance

2017
01:12:04,725 --> 01:12:05,726
from the pedestrian access point on

2018
01:12:05,726 --> 01:12:07,726
those stops

2019
01:12:07,728 --> 01:12:08,729
per state law. However, the state

2020
01:12:08,729 --> 01:12:10,729
law

2021
01:12:11,732 --> 01:12:12,733
also says that scag,

2022
01:12:12,733 --> 01:12:14,735
the metropolitan planning organization,

2023
01:12:14,735 --> 01:12:16,735
that includes

2024
01:12:16,737 --> 01:12:19,740
the city of beverly hills, is required

2025
01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:20,707
to produce the official map and we've been

2026
01:12:20,707 --> 01:12:22,707
following

2027
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:23,710
up to ensure our map is consistent

2028
01:12:23,710 --> 01:12:28,510
with the map that they will eventually produce.

2029
01:12:29,716 --> 01:12:31,716
shown here in

2030
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:34,721
this table are the new zoning

2031
01:12:34,721 --> 01:12:38,321
regulations that would apply to the

2032
01:12:38,725 --> 01:12:40,725
quarter mile radii.

2033
01:12:41,728 --> 01:12:42,729
it super seedsseeds

2034
01:12:42,729 --> 01:12:44,731
zoning regulations. It sets a knew

2035
01:12:44,731 --> 01:12:46,731
minimum density

2036
01:12:46,733 --> 01:12:47,734
of 30 dwelling units per acre. We must

2037
01:12:47,734 --> 01:12:49,734
also allow

2038
01:12:49,736 --> 01:12:53,336
at least 120 dwelling units per acre.

2039
01:12:53,707 --> 01:12:56,710
a new florida area ratio of 3.5.

2040
01:12:56,710 --> 01:12:58,710
at least 75 feet

2041
01:12:59,713 --> 01:13:00,714
of height. And there must be a maximum

2042
01:13:00,714 --> 01:13:05,719
average unit size in the projects of 1750 square feet.

2043
01:13:05,719 --> 01:13:07,719
and then

2044
01:13:08,722 --> 01:13:10,724
the state lawlaw allows sites within

2045
01:13:10,724 --> 01:13:13,727
200 feet of the transit stops to get

2046
01:13:13,727 --> 01:13:14,728
an additional 20 feet in height for

2047
01:13:14,728 --> 01:13:16,728
a total

2048
01:13:16,730 --> 01:13:17,731
of 95 feet, an additional 40 dwelling

2049
01:13:17,731 --> 01:13:19,731
units

2050
01:13:20,734 --> 01:13:23,737
per acre for a total of 160

2051
01:13:23,737 --> 01:13:26,737
dwelling units per acre density.

2052
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:28,740
and an additional

2053
01:13:29,710 --> 01:13:32,713
increase of 1 far. It would be a total

2054
01:13:32,713 --> 01:13:34,715
of 4. 5 far. And shown

2055
01:13:34,715 --> 01:13:38,719
here are all three radii from sb 79.

2056
01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:41,719
there is the 200 foot radius

2057
01:13:41,722 --> 01:13:43,722
with the increase

2058
01:13:43,724 --> 01:13:44,725
density. And then the quarter mile

2059
01:13:44,725 --> 01:13:46,725
radius showing

2060
01:13:46,727 --> 01:13:47,728
with the green dash line, and then

2061
01:13:47,728 --> 01:13:49,728
the

2062
01:13:49,730 --> 01:13:50,731
larger outer circle which is the entire

2063
01:13:50,731 --> 01:13:52,731
half

2064
01:13:52,733 --> 01:13:53,734
mile radius. Just as a note, there

2065
01:13:53,734 --> 01:13:55,734
are

2066
01:13:55,736 --> 01:13:56,737
no parcels in the quarter mile from

2067
01:13:56,737 --> 01:13:58,737
the

2068
01:13:59,740 --> 01:14:02,709
century city station that are

2069
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:04,709
upzoned for

2070
01:14:05,712 --> 01:14:08,712
sb 79. In order for a

2071
01:14:08,715 --> 01:14:11,115
project to utilize sb 79

2072
01:14:11,718 --> 01:14:13,720
regulations, it must neat following

2073
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:14,721
criteria. It must have at least five

2074
01:14:14,721 --> 01:14:16,721
dwelling

2075
01:14:17,724 --> 01:14:19,726
units, ago minimum 30 dwelling units

2076
01:14:19,726 --> 01:14:20,727
per acre. And it must be residential

2077
01:14:20,727 --> 01:14:22,727
only.

2078
01:14:23,730 --> 01:14:26,130
two-thirds residential, or half

2079
01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:29,733
residential and a minimum of 500

2080
01:14:29,736 --> 01:14:32,739
net new units, or it can be

2081
01:14:32,739 --> 01:14:35,709
farm worker or transitional or

2082
01:14:35,709 --> 01:14:37,709
support housing. It

2083
01:14:38,712 --> 01:14:41,112
may not include hotels,

2084
01:14:41,715 --> 01:14:44,715
motels, bed and breakfast or

2085
01:14:44,718 --> 01:14:46,718
transient lodging. The

2086
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:47,721
project must provide affordable units

2087
01:14:47,721 --> 01:14:49,721
at one of

2088
01:14:49,723 --> 01:14:50,724
the following percentages. Either

2089
01:14:50,724 --> 01:14:52,724
7%, extremely

2090
01:14:53,727 --> 01:14:55,729
low, 10% very low, or 13% low

2091
01:14:55,729 --> 01:14:56,730
income. And then if the project is

2092
01:14:56,730 --> 01:14:58,730
greater than

2093
01:14:59,733 --> 01:15:02,733
85 feet in height, it must

2094
01:15:02,736 --> 01:15:05,736
also meet labor standards set

2095
01:15:05,739 --> 01:15:07,739
in state law.

2096
01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:10,711
in addition, an sb 79

2097
01:15:10,711 --> 01:15:11,712
project may utilize the bonus if it

2098
01:15:11,712 --> 01:15:13,712
qualifies.

2099
01:15:14,715 --> 01:15:17,718
if it has more than ten units,

2100
01:15:17,718 --> 01:15:20,118
it is automatically eligible

2101
01:15:20,721 --> 01:15:22,721
based on

2102
01:15:23,724 --> 01:15:24,725
the affordability

2103
01:15:24,725 --> 01:15:26,727
requirement. It would be considered the new

2104
01:15:26,727 --> 01:15:29,727
base density for purposes of

2105
01:15:29,730 --> 01:15:30,731
the density bonus calculation. However, the city is

2106
01:15:30,731 --> 01:15:32,731
not

2107
01:15:32,733 --> 01:15:34,735
required to approve a waiver

2108
01:15:34,735 --> 01:15:35,736
for additional height above what is

2109
01:15:35,736 --> 01:15:37,736
already granted

2110
01:15:38,739 --> 01:15:40,707
by sb 79. And projects with at least

2111
01:15:40,707 --> 01:15:41,708
90 dwelling units per acre are also

2112
01:15:41,708 --> 01:15:43,708
eligible

2113
01:15:44,711 --> 01:15:47,711
for additional concessions based on

2114
01:15:47,714 --> 01:15:48,715
the time of low income housing they

2115
01:15:48,715 --> 01:15:50,715
provide.

2116
01:15:50,717 --> 01:15:52,717
as

2117
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,723
shown in the chart. So sb 79 does

2118
01:15:56,723 --> 01:15:58,723
not require that

2119
01:15:58,725 --> 01:15:59,726
the project's proposed under the state

2120
01:15:59,726 --> 01:16:01,726
law

2121
01:16:02,729 --> 01:16:04,729
are ministerial. They

2122
01:16:04,731 --> 01:16:05,732
will still require that it is approved

2123
01:16:05,732 --> 01:16:07,732
and

2124
01:16:07,734 --> 01:16:08,735
reviewed. Most likely this would be

2125
01:16:08,735 --> 01:16:10,735
a planning review

2126
01:16:11,738 --> 01:16:13,738
and a density

2127
01:16:14,708 --> 01:16:17,108
bonus request. If state

2128
01:16:17,711 --> 01:16:19,711
law ministerial

2129
01:16:19,713 --> 01:16:20,714
streamlining applies, it may require that

2130
01:16:20,714 --> 01:16:22,714
processing.

2131
01:16:23,717 --> 01:16:24,718
the state law states that denial of

2132
01:16:24,718 --> 01:16:25,719
the project would be considered a

2133
01:16:25,719 --> 01:16:29,319
violation of the housing accountability act.

2134
01:16:32,726 --> 01:16:35,726
sb 79 also allows cities to

2135
01:16:35,729 --> 01:16:36,730
adopt what is called a

2136
01:16:36,730 --> 01:16:38,730
transit-oriented development alternative

2137
01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:41,132
plan, or alternative plan.

2138
01:16:41,735 --> 01:16:44,735
and will this allows the

2139
01:16:44,738 --> 01:16:46,738
cities

2140
01:16:47,708 --> 01:16:49,710
to applyapply plan. The

2141
01:16:49,710 --> 01:16:50,711
plan allows cities to reallocate up

2142
01:16:50,711 --> 01:16:52,711
to 50% of the

2143
01:16:53,714 --> 01:16:54,715
density of a satan within the applicable

2144
01:16:54,715 --> 01:16:55,716
quarter

2145
01:16:55,716 --> 01:16:56,717
mail radius to other sites within

2146
01:16:56,717 --> 01:16:58,717
the entire

2147
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,723
half mile radius, as long as it

2148
01:17:02,723 --> 01:17:05,723
meets these conditions, it must

2149
01:17:05,726 --> 01:17:06,727
maintain the same net zoned capacity for

2150
01:17:06,727 --> 01:17:08,727
total

2151
01:17:08,729 --> 01:17:11,129
units and floor area

2152
01:17:11,732 --> 01:17:13,734
across the zones. It may not

2153
01:17:13,734 --> 01:17:14,735
reduce density on any site by more than

2154
01:17:14,735 --> 01:17:16,735
50%. And there

2155
01:17:17,738 --> 01:17:20,707
is a maximum calculation of

2156
01:17:20,707 --> 01:17:22,707
200 density for

2157
01:17:23,710 --> 01:17:26,710
any individual site. And staff

2158
01:17:26,713 --> 01:17:28,713
has repaired three

2159
01:17:29,716 --> 01:17:31,718
different alternative plan scenarios.

2160
01:17:31,718 --> 01:17:32,719
from single family sites within the quarter

2161
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:34,719
mail radius,

2162
01:17:35,722 --> 01:17:38,725
known as our export sites. It

2163
01:17:38,725 --> 01:17:40,725
reallocates

2164
01:17:41,728 --> 01:17:44,731
that to mixed use sites within the

2165
01:17:44,731 --> 01:17:46,733
quarter mile or half mile radius.

2166
01:17:46,733 --> 01:17:47,734
each scenario distributes it in different ways

2167
01:17:47,734 --> 01:17:49,734
but no

2168
01:17:49,736 --> 01:17:50,737
scenario distributes any density to

2169
01:17:50,737 --> 01:17:52,737
the century

2170
01:17:53,740 --> 01:17:56,140
city station radius. And

2171
01:17:56,710 --> 01:17:57,711
this is because mixed use sites have

2172
01:17:57,711 --> 01:17:58,712
already been

2173
01:17:58,712 --> 01:17:59,713
identified as areas for additional

2174
01:17:59,713 --> 01:18:01,713
density and housing.

2175
01:18:02,716 --> 01:18:05,719
so in compliance with state law,

2176
01:18:05,719 --> 01:18:08,719
the scenarios maintain the zoning

2177
01:18:08,722 --> 01:18:10,724
capacity of 17,548 units, depending

2178
01:18:10,724 --> 01:18:11,725
on the scenario, either the quarter or

2179
01:18:11,725 --> 01:18:13,725
the half

2180
01:18:13,727 --> 01:18:17,731
mile. It maintains the net floor area.

2181
01:18:17,731 --> 01:18:20,131
so even though the

2182
01:18:20,734 --> 01:18:23,737
far on single family sites has been

2183
01:18:23,737 --> 01:18:25,737
reduced, all others

2184
01:18:26,740 --> 01:18:27,708
are a positive increase. And they

2185
01:18:27,708 --> 01:18:29,708
all

2186
01:18:29,710 --> 01:18:32,713
allow at least 75 feet of height

2187
01:18:32,713 --> 01:18:35,716
on the import sites, onner 95 feet

2188
01:18:35,716 --> 01:18:37,716
for

2189
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:40,719
the adjacent

2190
01:18:41,722 --> 01:18:43,724
intensifier. And staff has created

2191
01:18:43,724 --> 01:18:44,725
these scenarios within an overlay

2192
01:18:44,725 --> 01:18:47,725
zone. And in addition to

2193
01:18:47,728 --> 01:18:48,729
that, it will add other

2194
01:18:48,729 --> 01:18:52,329
provisions and modifications to the code.

2195
01:18:53,734 --> 01:18:55,736
so in each alternative

2196
01:18:55,736 --> 01:18:57,738
plan, there are three different sub

2197
01:18:57,738 --> 01:18:58,739
areas. And the

2198
01:18:58,739 --> 01:19:00,741
density for those sub areas are shown

2199
01:19:00,741 --> 01:19:02,709
here. They

2200
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:05,709
remain constant across the different

2201
01:19:06,713 --> 01:19:09,713
scenarios. Area a is the

2202
01:19:09,716 --> 01:19:11,716
area that is

2203
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:13,720
upzoned in the quarter

2204
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,722
mile radius and is not involved in

2205
01:19:15,722 --> 01:19:17,722
the

2206
01:19:18,725 --> 01:19:20,725
import/export activity.

2207
01:19:21,728 --> 01:19:24,128
area b is single

2208
01:19:24,731 --> 01:19:26,733
family export sites. It has

2209
01:19:26,733 --> 01:19:30,333
been reduced to 50% density. And area

2210
01:19:30,737 --> 01:19:33,737
c are within the 200 foot

2211
01:19:33,740 --> 01:19:34,708
radius and only upzoned. They're

2212
01:19:34,708 --> 01:19:38,908
not involved in the import/export activity.

2213
01:19:39,713 --> 01:19:41,713
and

2214
01:19:41,715 --> 01:19:42,716
then our first scenario is the pancake

2215
01:19:42,716 --> 01:19:43,717
scenario. And we're

2216
01:19:43,717 --> 01:19:45,719
calling it the pancake scenario because

2217
01:19:45,719 --> 01:19:46,720
it

2218
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,722
distributes the units evenly across

2219
01:19:48,722 --> 01:19:50,722
the

2220
01:19:50,724 --> 01:19:51,725
entire half mile radius from both

2221
01:19:51,725 --> 01:19:53,725
stations. So

2222
01:19:54,728 --> 01:19:57,731
it creates three new sub areas

2223
01:19:57,731 --> 01:19:59,733
where there are import sites in the

2224
01:19:59,733 --> 01:20:00,734
mixed use overlay zone. Area d are

2225
01:20:00,734 --> 01:20:02,734
within

2226
01:20:03,737 --> 01:20:05,739
the 200-foot radius. Not

2227
01:20:05,739 --> 01:20:06,740
adjacent to single family. Area e

2228
01:20:06,740 --> 01:20:08,709
are

2229
01:20:08,709 --> 01:20:09,710
from the 200 to the quarter mile radius.

2230
01:20:09,710 --> 01:20:10,711
also

2231
01:20:10,711 --> 01:20:12,713
not adjacent to the single family.

2232
01:20:12,713 --> 01:20:14,713
and

2233
01:20:14,715 --> 01:20:15,716
area f, from the quarter to the half

2234
01:20:15,716 --> 01:20:17,716
mile,

2235
01:20:17,718 --> 01:20:18,719
not adjacent to single family. And

2236
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:20,719
the new

2237
01:20:20,721 --> 01:20:21,722
dense business that would accommodate

2238
01:20:21,722 --> 01:20:22,723
the

2239
01:20:22,723 --> 01:20:28,123
distributed units are shown in the blue chart here.

2240
01:20:30,731 --> 01:20:33,131
and these maps show

2241
01:20:33,734 --> 01:20:34,735
an overview

2242
01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:36,737
of the distribution in a simplified

2243
01:20:36,737 --> 01:20:39,737
way. The light green are

2244
01:20:39,740 --> 01:20:42,709
the base sb 79 sites that are upzoenld

2245
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:44,711
but they are not importing or

2246
01:20:44,711 --> 01:20:45,712
exporting density. The teal sites

2247
01:20:45,712 --> 01:20:47,712
are the

2248
01:20:48,715 --> 01:20:51,115
single family export sites

2249
01:20:51,718 --> 01:20:53,718
where we are

2250
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:54,721
removing density. And the pink are in

2251
01:20:54,721 --> 01:20:56,721
the mixed

2252
01:20:56,723 --> 01:20:57,724
use overlay zone which are receiving

2253
01:20:57,724 --> 01:20:59,724
density. And

2254
01:20:59,726 --> 01:21:02,729
as you can see here, this scenario

2255
01:21:02,729 --> 01:21:03,730
has the pink sites extend into the

2256
01:21:03,730 --> 01:21:06,130
quarter mile. Which is

2257
01:21:06,733 --> 01:21:09,736
the only scenario that has that condition.

2258
01:21:09,736 --> 01:21:12,736
and the density on the

2259
01:21:12,739 --> 01:21:15,139
pink import sites ranges

2260
01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:18,109
from 121 to 202 dwelling units

2261
01:21:18,712 --> 01:21:20,714
per acre. And then this map

2262
01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:21,715
shows a little more detail with each of

2263
01:21:21,715 --> 01:21:23,715
the

2264
01:21:24,718 --> 01:21:26,720
new areas created. D, e, and f. And

2265
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:27,721
they're shown in the light, medium,

2266
01:21:27,721 --> 01:21:29,721
and

2267
01:21:30,724 --> 01:21:33,124
dark blue around the

2268
01:21:33,727 --> 01:21:35,727
stations.

2269
01:21:36,730 --> 01:21:38,730
the second

2270
01:21:39,733 --> 01:21:40,734
scenario is the tent pole scenario.

2271
01:21:40,734 --> 01:21:42,736
this maximizes distribution in the 200 foot

2272
01:21:42,736 --> 01:21:45,736
and the quarter mile radius

2273
01:21:45,739 --> 01:21:47,739
from both stations.

2274
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:50,709
there are

2275
01:21:50,711 --> 01:21:51,712
there is a sharper density. There are

2276
01:21:51,712 --> 01:21:53,712
two areas

2277
01:21:53,714 --> 01:21:57,314
created with this scenario. Area d,

2278
01:21:57,718 --> 01:21:59,718
within the 200 foot

2279
01:22:00,721 --> 01:22:03,724
radius, not ajason ento single family.

2280
01:22:03,724 --> 01:22:06,727
and area e, 200 foot to quarter

2281
01:22:06,727 --> 01:22:09,127
mile, not adjacent to

2282
01:22:09,730 --> 01:22:12,733
single family. And as you can

2283
01:22:12,733 --> 01:22:13,734
see here, the import sites

2284
01:22:13,734 --> 01:22:15,736
are concentrated around the stations.

2285
01:22:15,736 --> 01:22:17,736
it

2286
01:22:18,739 --> 01:22:21,708
does not extend into the outer ring.

2287
01:22:21,708 --> 01:22:24,711
the quarter mail to thethe mile radius.

2288
01:22:24,711 --> 01:22:27,714
the density ranges from the import sites

2289
01:22:27,714 --> 01:22:30,114
from 165 to 320 dwelling units

2290
01:22:30,717 --> 01:22:33,717
per acre in this scenario.

2291
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,720
and

2292
01:22:36,723 --> 01:22:37,724
then this map shows more detail with

2293
01:22:37,724 --> 01:22:39,724
the specific

2294
01:22:39,726 --> 01:22:42,729
areas, d and e, shown around the

2295
01:22:42,729 --> 01:22:44,729
stations.

2296
01:22:45,732 --> 01:22:47,732
and finally, our

2297
01:22:48,735 --> 01:22:49,736
scenario 3 is the la cienega focused

2298
01:22:49,736 --> 01:22:50,737
scenario

2299
01:22:50,737 --> 01:22:51,738
which maximizes the distribution of units in

2300
01:22:51,738 --> 01:22:53,738
the

2301
01:22:54,708 --> 01:22:57,708
200 andand mile radius around only

2302
01:22:57,711 --> 01:23:00,714
the la cienega subway station. That's

2303
01:23:00,714 --> 01:23:02,716
because the majority of single family

2304
01:23:02,716 --> 01:23:05,716
sites from whichwhich there units

2305
01:23:05,719 --> 01:23:06,720
being exported are located around

2306
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,720
the la

2307
01:23:09,723 --> 01:23:10,724
cienega station. So this

2308
01:23:10,724 --> 01:23:12,726
concentrates the units in that area.

2309
01:23:12,726 --> 01:23:15,729
and it creates two additional sub

2310
01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:18,732
areas. Area d are the mix use sites

2311
01:23:18,732 --> 01:23:20,732
within the 200 foot,

2312
01:23:21,735 --> 01:23:22,736
not adjacent to single family, and

2313
01:23:22,736 --> 01:23:24,736
area

2314
01:23:24,738 --> 01:23:27,708
e, from the 200 to quarter mail area

2315
01:23:27,708 --> 01:23:29,708
from the la

2316
01:23:30,711 --> 01:23:31,712
cienega station, not adjacent to single

2317
01:23:31,712 --> 01:23:33,714
family. The they are shown in the

2318
01:23:33,714 --> 01:23:35,716
blue chart. And in the

2319
01:23:35,716 --> 01:23:36,717
overview, you can see that there are

2320
01:23:36,717 --> 01:23:38,717
only

2321
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:39,720
pink import sites around the la cienega

2322
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,720
station.

2323
01:23:42,723 --> 01:23:45,726
and the densities here range from

2324
01:23:45,726 --> 01:23:47,726
230 to 320 dwellingdwelling

2325
01:23:48,729 --> 01:23:50,729
per acre. And

2326
01:23:51,732 --> 01:23:52,733
again, the more specific map, and you

2327
01:23:52,733 --> 01:23:54,733
can see

2328
01:23:54,735 --> 01:23:55,736
that only the area d and e shown in

2329
01:23:55,736 --> 01:23:57,704
light

2330
01:23:57,704 --> 01:24:03,104
and dark blue are around the la cienega station.

2331
01:25:07,741 --> 01:25:09,710
see that complies.

2332
01:25:09,710 --> 01:25:10,711
this was noticed in compliance with

2333
01:25:10,711 --> 01:25:12,711
all

2334
01:25:12,713 --> 01:25:13,714
requirements and an email to all interested

2335
01:25:13,714 --> 01:25:15,714
parties was

2336
01:25:15,716 --> 01:25:16,717
sent. And there were several comments

2337
01:25:16,717 --> 01:25:17,718
received that have

2338
01:25:17,718 --> 01:25:19,720
been circulated to the commission.

2339
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:20,721
and with that, staff

2340
01:25:20,721 --> 01:25:22,723
recommends that the commission adopt

2341
01:25:22,723 --> 01:25:24,723
a resolution

2342
01:25:25,726 --> 01:25:27,726
recommending the

2343
01:25:27,728 --> 01:25:28,729
general plan amendment to create the

2344
01:25:28,729 --> 01:25:30,729
alternative

2345
01:25:31,732 --> 01:25:33,732
plan and find

2346
01:25:34,735 --> 01:25:36,735
it exempt from

2347
01:25:37,738 --> 01:25:39,738
ceqa.

2348
01:25:40,741 --> 01:25:42,741
specifically to prepare

2349
01:25:43,710 --> 01:25:45,712
updated land use maps and

2350
01:25:45,712 --> 01:25:46,713
zoning maps based on scenario 1, 2,

2351
01:25:46,713 --> 01:25:48,713
and 3.

2352
01:25:49,716 --> 01:25:50,717
>> thank you for that

2353
01:25:50,717 --> 01:25:52,719
staff report. I'll now open the public

2354
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:54,719
hearing.

2355
01:25:55,722 --> 01:25:58,725
each member of the public will

2356
01:25:58,725 --> 01:26:01,125
have three minutes to

2357
01:26:01,728 --> 01:26:03,730
speak. And public comment will

2358
01:26:03,730 --> 01:26:04,731
be closed before the commission begins

2359
01:26:04,731 --> 01:26:06,731
deliberations.

2360
01:26:06,733 --> 01:26:07,734
those wishing to provide comment should

2361
01:26:07,734 --> 01:26:08,735
do so

2362
01:26:08,735 --> 01:26:10,737
now. I'm looking around. I don't have

2363
01:26:10,737 --> 01:26:12,739
any cards. Is there

2364
01:26:12,739 --> 01:26:13,740
anyone in the room who wishes to provide

2365
01:26:13,740 --> 01:26:15,709
public

2366
01:26:15,709 --> 01:26:19,713
comment on this item? Seeing none, I

2367
01:26:19,713 --> 01:26:22,713
will move to ask karen

2368
01:26:22,716 --> 01:26:25,719
if we have any public comment via

2369
01:26:25,719 --> 01:26:27,721
phone, video or email?

2370
01:26:27,721 --> 01:26:28,722
>> yes. We will start with phone comment.

2371
01:26:28,722 --> 01:26:30,722
we have a

2372
01:26:30,724 --> 01:26:34,324
call from kenneth. Please go ahead.

2373
01:26:40,734 --> 01:26:42,734
>> can you

2374
01:26:42,736 --> 01:26:43,737
hear me?

2375
01:26:43,737 --> 01:26:44,738
>> yes. Please go ahead.

2376
01:26:44,738 --> 01:26:46,738
>> can you hear

2377
01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:49,710
me now? My name is ken.

2378
01:26:49,710 --> 01:26:52,110
I live at 731 shoe

2379
01:26:52,713 --> 01:26:54,713
maker drive which

2380
01:26:54,715 --> 01:26:55,716
is part of, I'm literally over the fence from

2381
01:26:55,716 --> 01:26:57,716
the

2382
01:26:57,718 --> 01:27:00,721
east side of tower drive. And I'm

2383
01:27:00,721 --> 01:27:01,722
calling in as just an individual neighbor, of

2384
01:27:01,722 --> 01:27:03,722
course. There is

2385
01:27:04,725 --> 01:27:05,726
a lot to consume here

2386
01:27:05,726 --> 01:27:07,728
and understand with all the rules

2387
01:27:07,728 --> 01:27:09,730
and regulations. Profoundly what

2388
01:27:09,730 --> 01:27:12,733
I'm asking is two things. Number one, that

2389
01:27:12,733 --> 01:27:13,734
you don't grant an exemption under

2390
01:27:13,734 --> 01:27:15,734
ceqa.

2391
01:27:15,736 --> 01:27:16,737
we are, and most of you probably know

2392
01:27:16,737 --> 01:27:18,737
the

2393
01:27:19,740 --> 01:27:21,708
story and history.

2394
01:27:21,708 --> 01:27:25,712
we're on the national registry, et cetera.

2395
01:27:25,712 --> 01:27:27,714
the other thing is I noticed just now as

2396
01:27:27,714 --> 01:27:28,715
I'm getting educated with this, that

2397
01:27:28,715 --> 01:27:30,715
each.

2398
01:27:31,718 --> 01:27:33,720
these plans include an

2399
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:34,721
exemption that, the three scenarios,

2400
01:27:34,721 --> 01:27:36,721
they're

2401
01:27:36,723 --> 01:27:37,724
not adjacent to single families. The

2402
01:27:37,724 --> 01:27:40,724
east side of tower drive

2403
01:27:40,727 --> 01:27:42,729
is immediately adjacent. It is

2404
01:27:42,729 --> 01:27:43,730
over the fence. I've lived here since

2405
01:27:43,730 --> 01:27:45,730
1976. I have

2406
01:27:45,732 --> 01:27:46,733
a number of new neighbors that have

2407
01:27:46,733 --> 01:27:48,733
children, et

2408
01:27:48,735 --> 01:27:49,736
cetera. And the impacts will be more

2409
01:27:49,736 --> 01:27:51,736
than substantial.

2410
01:27:52,739 --> 01:27:55,709
as I'm reading right now about ceqa

2411
01:27:55,709 --> 01:27:57,709
in particular,

2412
01:27:58,712 --> 01:28:01,712
notably, that indirect impacts on

2413
01:28:01,715 --> 01:28:03,717
adjacent properties are profoundly

2414
01:28:03,717 --> 01:28:05,719
protected under ceqa considerations.

2415
01:28:05,719 --> 01:28:07,721
even if you choose to exempt ceqa

2416
01:28:07,721 --> 01:28:08,722
from this,

2417
01:28:08,722 --> 01:28:10,724
which I think would be inappropriate, I

2418
01:28:10,724 --> 01:28:12,724
think that

2419
01:28:12,726 --> 01:28:13,727
the very fact that you've chosen to

2420
01:28:13,727 --> 01:28:15,727
exclude in every

2421
01:28:16,730 --> 01:28:18,730
one of your

2422
01:28:18,732 --> 01:28:19,733
scenarios, single-family dwelgs, should

2423
01:28:19,733 --> 01:28:21,733
give the

2424
01:28:21,735 --> 01:28:24,735
people that same consideration on

2425
01:28:25,739 --> 01:28:26,740
schumaker drive. What I would

2426
01:28:26,740 --> 01:28:28,709
request is thatthat looking at plan, that

2427
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:31,712
you exclude the east side of

2428
01:28:31,712 --> 01:28:34,715
tower drive which is immediately, it

2429
01:28:34,715 --> 01:28:37,718
is in our back yards. It is

2430
01:28:37,718 --> 01:28:40,718
literally in our back yards.

2431
01:28:40,721 --> 01:28:42,721
if ceqa is

2432
01:28:43,724 --> 01:28:45,724
inapplicable,

2433
01:28:46,727 --> 01:28:49,727
it basically says that examples

2434
01:28:49,730 --> 01:28:51,732
of indirect impacts include visual,

2435
01:28:51,732 --> 01:28:52,733
auditory, atmospheric changes to immediate

2436
01:28:52,733 --> 01:28:54,733
surroundings of

2437
01:28:55,736 --> 01:28:58,136
an historical resource from

2438
01:28:58,739 --> 01:29:00,741
construction. This the resource impact

2439
01:29:00,741 --> 01:29:01,708
analysis may overlap with the aesthetic

2440
01:29:01,708 --> 01:29:03,708
and

2441
01:29:04,711 --> 01:29:07,111
noise vibration analysis. I

2442
01:29:07,714 --> 01:29:09,716
plead with you to think of us

2443
01:29:09,716 --> 01:29:10,717
asalize. Spend years working through

2444
01:29:10,717 --> 01:29:12,717
with

2445
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,722
the beverly hills soccer and

2446
01:29:15,722 --> 01:29:16,723
baseball, la cienega park. We have

2447
01:29:16,723 --> 01:29:18,723
already incursions

2448
01:29:19,726 --> 01:29:20,727
from traffic

2449
01:29:20,727 --> 01:29:22,729
and from people people for parking.

2450
01:29:22,729 --> 01:29:24,729
and parking in

2451
01:29:24,731 --> 01:29:27,734
our neighborhood, so the more immediate

2452
01:29:27,734 --> 01:29:28,735
thing, of course, is over the fence

2453
01:29:28,735 --> 01:29:31,135
looking up at a

2454
01:29:31,738 --> 01:29:34,708
75-foot or so building. All the

2455
01:29:34,708 --> 01:29:37,711
impacts of the noise and he

2456
01:29:37,711 --> 01:29:38,712
esthetics are horrifying. Thank you for

2457
01:29:38,712 --> 01:29:40,712
your

2458
01:29:40,714 --> 01:29:41,715
consideration.

2459
01:29:41,715 --> 01:29:42,716
>> thank you for your comments.

2460
01:29:42,716 --> 01:29:43,717
>> okay. We have no additional phone

2461
01:29:43,717 --> 01:29:45,717
comments.

2462
01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:46,720
no video comments. But we have a few

2463
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,720
written comments. I will go

2464
01:29:49,723 --> 01:29:50,724
ahead and read those. I will apologize

2465
01:29:50,724 --> 01:29:51,725
in

2466
01:29:51,725 --> 01:29:52,726
advance if I mispronounce any names.

2467
01:29:52,726 --> 01:29:54,726
and

2468
01:29:55,729 --> 01:29:56,730
if any letters go beyond the three minutes, I

2469
01:29:56,730 --> 01:29:58,730
will

2470
01:29:58,732 --> 01:30:00,734
just read as far as I can. But the

2471
01:30:00,734 --> 01:30:01,735
entirety of the letters will remain part of

2472
01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:03,735
the record.

2473
01:30:04,738 --> 01:30:06,738
the first letter

2474
01:30:07,741 --> 01:30:09,741
comes from --

2475
01:30:10,711 --> 01:30:13,714
hi. I live on north maple drive.

2476
01:30:13,714 --> 01:30:15,716
I strongly urge you to consider scenario three

2477
01:30:15,716 --> 01:30:16,717
and appreciate your consideration.

2478
01:30:16,717 --> 01:30:18,717
earn

2479
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:20,721
thety plan scenario three reallocation

2480
01:30:20,721 --> 01:30:21,722
of

2481
01:30:21,722 --> 01:30:22,723
decreased residential density within one

2482
01:30:22,723 --> 01:30:24,723
quarter mail

2483
01:30:25,726 --> 01:30:28,729
of metro stations to mixed use

2484
01:30:28,729 --> 01:30:31,729
properties be adjacent, within one

2485
01:30:31,732 --> 01:30:34,132
quarter mile of the

2486
01:30:34,735 --> 01:30:37,135
la cienega wilshire stop.

2487
01:30:38,739 --> 01:30:40,739
within 200 feet.

2488
01:30:41,708 --> 01:30:44,708
thanks. The next letter come

2489
01:30:44,711 --> 01:30:47,714
from derian. Many thanks to the

2490
01:30:47,714 --> 01:30:48,715
planning department people

2491
01:30:48,715 --> 01:30:50,717
for their prompt and time-consuming work

2492
01:30:50,717 --> 01:30:52,717
on this project.

2493
01:30:52,719 --> 01:30:53,720
I think it is important to place increased

2494
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,120
density in as small

2495
01:30:56,723 --> 01:30:58,725
an area as possible. Therefore I

2496
01:30:58,725 --> 01:30:59,726
favor alternative plans 3 and 2. I think 3 is

2497
01:30:59,726 --> 01:31:01,726
a

2498
01:31:02,729 --> 01:31:04,731
better idea for several reasons.

2499
01:31:04,731 --> 01:31:08,735
one, most of the area near the metro

2500
01:31:08,735 --> 01:31:11,735
stop is in los angeles.

2501
01:31:11,738 --> 01:31:14,741
two, it seems it would fit better

2502
01:31:14,741 --> 01:31:16,710
at wilshire and la cienega.

2503
01:31:16,710 --> 01:31:17,711
three, residents of new projects will have access

2504
01:31:17,711 --> 01:31:19,711
to la cienega

2505
01:31:19,713 --> 01:31:20,714
park. Four, residents of new projects

2506
01:31:20,714 --> 01:31:21,715
will

2507
01:31:21,715 --> 01:31:25,315
have better access to the freeway.

2508
01:31:25,719 --> 01:31:26,720
however, I am concerned about residential having a

2509
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:28,720
hate

2510
01:31:28,722 --> 01:31:31,725
limit of 75 feet with increased density

2511
01:31:31,725 --> 01:31:33,727
limited to 50%. Then shouldn't the

2512
01:31:33,727 --> 01:31:35,729
height limit be decreased to half

2513
01:31:35,729 --> 01:31:37,729
of 75 feet or

2514
01:31:38,732 --> 01:31:41,732
38 feet or maybe 45 feet or

2515
01:31:41,735 --> 01:31:42,736
three stories? I think this would

2516
01:31:42,736 --> 01:31:44,738
especially important for such residential

2517
01:31:44,738 --> 01:31:46,738
properties which

2518
01:31:47,741 --> 01:31:49,741
are adjacent to

2519
01:31:50,711 --> 01:31:51,712
other one or two-story

2520
01:31:51,712 --> 01:31:53,714
single family residences which are

2521
01:31:53,714 --> 01:31:55,716
not being upzoned. Thanks to

2522
01:31:55,716 --> 01:31:56,717
everyone for their time. Before I read the

2523
01:31:56,717 --> 01:31:58,717
next letter,

2524
01:31:58,719 --> 01:31:59,720
I'm going to ask the zoom managers

2525
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:00,721
to

2526
01:32:00,721 --> 01:32:04,725
please make sure everyone is muted so we

2527
01:32:04,725 --> 01:32:05,726
can hear the public comments. The

2528
01:32:05,726 --> 01:32:07,726
next

2529
01:32:08,729 --> 01:32:10,729
is from lee

2530
01:32:11,732 --> 01:32:14,132
pasterknack to the commissioners.

2531
01:32:14,735 --> 01:32:17,735
>> I already spoke. >> did you? >>

2532
01:32:17,738 --> 01:32:20,741
the zoom is not muted. The next

2533
01:32:20,741 --> 01:32:23,141
letter come from lee

2534
01:32:23,710 --> 01:32:25,712
pasterknack to the planning commissioners.

2535
01:32:25,712 --> 01:32:26,713
my preference would be the third plan because

2536
01:32:26,713 --> 01:32:28,713
the wilshire

2537
01:32:28,715 --> 01:32:29,716
and la cienega area is closer to los

2538
01:32:29,716 --> 01:32:32,716
angeles and the quarter mile

2539
01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:34,721
around the metro stop.

2540
01:32:34,721 --> 01:32:35,722
there is largely in los angeles. Also, there

2541
01:32:35,722 --> 01:32:37,722
is better approximate

2542
01:32:38,725 --> 01:32:39,726
it to the freeway as well as san vincente

2543
01:32:39,726 --> 01:32:40,727
and

2544
01:32:40,727 --> 01:32:41,728
there will be less gridlock to get

2545
01:32:41,728 --> 01:32:43,728
to those

2546
01:32:43,730 --> 01:32:44,731
places. Residents of the new projects

2547
01:32:44,731 --> 01:32:46,731
would have

2548
01:32:47,734 --> 01:32:48,735
better access to la

2549
01:32:48,735 --> 01:32:50,737
cienega park. The area around wilshire

2550
01:32:50,737 --> 01:32:53,740
and la cienega seems denser and

2551
01:32:53,740 --> 01:32:54,741
more compatible. The my

2552
01:32:54,741 --> 01:32:56,710
second choice would be alternative

2553
01:32:56,710 --> 01:32:58,710
two. Both 3 and 2

2554
01:32:58,712 --> 01:32:59,713
restrict density to smaller areas in

2555
01:32:59,713 --> 01:33:01,713
the city.

2556
01:33:02,716 --> 01:33:04,716
regards, lee pasterknack.

2557
01:33:04,718 --> 01:33:05,719
the next letter comes from sarah wilin.

2558
01:33:05,719 --> 01:33:07,719
in the

2559
01:33:08,722 --> 01:33:09,723
unlikely event that beverly

2560
01:33:09,723 --> 01:33:11,725
hills might remain a loverly place to

2561
01:33:11,725 --> 01:33:13,727
live as compared to say

2562
01:33:13,727 --> 01:33:14,728
shop, I urge the commission to document plan b

2563
01:33:14,728 --> 01:33:16,728
or

2564
01:33:16,730 --> 01:33:17,731
better yet, an alternative plan calling

2565
01:33:17,731 --> 01:33:19,731
for the

2566
01:33:20,734 --> 01:33:23,134
reallocation of decreased residential

2567
01:33:23,737 --> 01:33:24,738
density within one quarter mile of

2568
01:33:24,738 --> 01:33:25,739
metrometro

2569
01:33:25,739 --> 01:33:28,709
stations to mixed use properties.

2570
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:29,710
not adjacent to mixed use residents

2571
01:33:29,710 --> 01:33:31,710
within one quarter

2572
01:33:32,713 --> 01:33:35,716
mail of the metro stop and

2573
01:33:35,716 --> 01:33:38,716
within 200 feet. Between the state

2574
01:33:38,719 --> 01:33:40,719
and the city

2575
01:33:41,722 --> 01:33:44,725
council, 32,000 beverly hills are being ronald of

2576
01:33:44,725 --> 01:33:45,726
a residential community which favors

2577
01:33:45,726 --> 01:33:47,726
their interest.

2578
01:33:47,728 --> 01:33:49,730
but here's for trying. Thanks.

2579
01:33:49,730 --> 01:33:50,731
the next letter comes from arnold

2580
01:33:50,731 --> 01:33:52,731
rosenstein.

2581
01:33:53,734 --> 01:33:55,734
this was

2582
01:33:56,737 --> 01:33:58,737
sent. We own

2583
01:33:58,739 --> 01:33:59,740
the proper at niemi 99 wilshire directly

2584
01:33:59,740 --> 01:34:01,740
across

2585
01:34:02,709 --> 01:34:04,711
the street from wilshire and reaves.

2586
01:34:04,711 --> 01:34:05,712
as we measure our property, we are

2587
01:34:05,712 --> 01:34:07,712
about 240 feet from

2588
01:34:07,714 --> 01:34:08,715
the metro site. Slightly more than

2589
01:34:08,715 --> 01:34:10,715
200

2590
01:34:10,717 --> 01:34:11,718
feet specified in sb 79. In addition,

2591
01:34:11,718 --> 01:34:14,118
our property is not

2592
01:34:14,721 --> 01:34:17,724
in the mixed use overlay don't previously documented

2593
01:34:17,724 --> 01:34:20,727
by the city. Nevertheless, we are, since we

2594
01:34:20,727 --> 01:34:22,729
are so close to the new metro

2595
01:34:22,729 --> 01:34:25,732
station, we think it makes sense for our property to

2596
01:34:25,732 --> 01:34:26,733
qualify for additional density. We

2597
01:34:26,733 --> 01:34:27,734
would appreciate it

2598
01:34:27,734 --> 01:34:29,736
if could you raise this question for

2599
01:34:29,736 --> 01:34:31,736
consideration. Thank you.

2600
01:34:32,739 --> 01:34:34,739
the

2601
01:34:35,709 --> 01:34:37,709
next letter

2602
01:34:38,712 --> 01:34:39,713
comes from we will shire skyline.

2603
01:34:39,713 --> 01:34:41,713
we

2604
01:34:41,715 --> 01:34:43,717
urge the city to reconsider

2605
01:34:43,717 --> 01:34:44,718
its current development alternative

2606
01:34:44,718 --> 01:34:47,118
plan as drafted it

2607
01:34:47,721 --> 01:34:48,722
is very unlikely to be approved by

2608
01:34:48,722 --> 01:34:50,722
hcd

2609
01:34:50,724 --> 01:34:51,725
and risks repeating the same mistakes

2610
01:34:51,725 --> 01:34:53,725
the city

2611
01:34:53,727 --> 01:34:56,730
made with a mixed use. Mistakes

2612
01:34:56,730 --> 01:34:58,730
that previously

2613
01:34:59,733 --> 01:35:02,133
caused hcd. It allows

2614
01:35:03,737 --> 01:35:06,740
an earn thety plan only if

2615
01:35:06,740 --> 01:35:08,709
it creates the same realistic

2616
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:12,309
increase in zone capacity that sb 79

2617
01:35:12,713 --> 01:35:14,713
itself would proceed.

2618
01:35:14,715 --> 01:35:15,716
but the city moving it out and on

2619
01:35:15,716 --> 01:35:17,716
to

2620
01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:20,719
already difficult-

2621
01:35:20,721 --> 01:35:21,722
out parcels that have little chance

2622
01:35:21,722 --> 01:35:23,722
of

2623
01:35:24,725 --> 01:35:27,125
redevelopment. They will not

2624
01:35:27,728 --> 01:35:29,728
count it as

2625
01:35:30,731 --> 01:35:33,734
real. The draft plan does almost

2626
01:35:33,734 --> 01:35:35,734
nothing to

2627
01:35:36,737 --> 01:35:37,738
upzone multifamily areas.

2628
01:35:37,738 --> 01:35:39,740
exactly where state law expects meaningful

2629
01:35:39,740 --> 01:35:41,740
change. We have

2630
01:35:42,709 --> 01:35:44,711
seen this before when the city revised

2631
01:35:44,711 --> 01:35:45,712
the mixed use overlay density rules,

2632
01:35:45,712 --> 01:35:46,713
it looked

2633
01:35:46,713 --> 01:35:48,715
acceptable on paper but produced no

2634
01:35:48,715 --> 01:35:50,717
real housing capacity and

2635
01:35:50,717 --> 01:35:54,317
chd rejected it. The current plan

2636
01:35:54,721 --> 01:35:55,722
repeats that pattern,

2637
01:35:55,722 --> 01:35:57,724
relying on spread sheets while avoiding

2638
01:35:57,724 --> 01:35:59,726
the area where it must

2639
01:35:59,726 --> 01:36:00,727
be created. If the city wants an alternative

2640
01:36:00,727 --> 01:36:02,727
plan that will

2641
01:36:02,729 --> 01:36:06,733
be certain fade, it must shift real

2642
01:36:06,733 --> 01:36:09,133
feasible density. Some from

2643
01:36:09,736 --> 01:36:12,136
single-family zones. Not rely

2644
01:36:12,739 --> 01:36:14,739
on theoretical

2645
01:36:15,709 --> 01:36:17,709
capacity and built

2646
01:36:18,712 --> 01:36:20,714
out corridors. We attach a

2647
01:36:20,714 --> 01:36:21,715
memo seeking to help the city achieve

2648
01:36:21,715 --> 01:36:22,716
these goals.

2649
01:36:22,716 --> 01:36:24,718
we remain available at your disposal

2650
01:36:24,718 --> 01:36:26,718
to assist the

2651
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:27,721
city and realize it planning goals.

2652
01:36:27,721 --> 01:36:30,121
thank you for your

2653
01:36:30,724 --> 01:36:32,726
consideration. The attachment, it's

2654
01:36:32,726 --> 01:36:33,727
addressed to the commission, come from

2655
01:36:33,727 --> 01:36:35,727
the beverly

2656
01:36:36,730 --> 01:36:39,130
hills initiative for research

2657
01:36:39,733 --> 01:36:42,133
and development. This is

2658
01:36:42,736 --> 01:36:43,737
part of the same

2659
01:36:43,737 --> 01:36:44,738
comment. We should only have about a

2660
01:36:44,738 --> 01:36:45,739
minute on the clock. This urges the

2661
01:36:45,739 --> 01:36:48,139
city to reconsider its

2662
01:36:48,709 --> 01:36:51,709
current approach to the sb

2663
01:36:51,712 --> 01:36:53,714
79 transit plan as presently

2664
01:36:53,714 --> 01:36:54,715
framed in the staff report and materials,

2665
01:36:54,715 --> 01:36:56,715
the

2666
01:36:56,717 --> 01:36:57,718
alternative plan appears unlikely to be

2667
01:36:57,718 --> 01:36:59,718
approved by the

2668
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:00,721
california department of housing and

2669
01:37:00,721 --> 01:37:02,721
community development.

2670
01:37:03,724 --> 01:37:06,727
hcd. And risks repeating the same

2671
01:37:06,727 --> 01:37:09,730
problem that led hcd to question

2672
01:37:09,730 --> 01:37:12,130
the credibility. Mixed use

2673
01:37:12,733 --> 01:37:15,133
overlay zone in the

2674
01:37:15,736 --> 01:37:17,736
last cycle. To

2675
01:37:18,739 --> 01:37:21,742
avoid litigation risk and remedy exposure,

2676
01:37:21,742 --> 01:37:24,711
the city should pivot to

2677
01:37:24,711 --> 01:37:26,711
a more realistic

2678
01:37:27,714 --> 01:37:29,714
strategy,

2679
01:37:30,717 --> 01:37:33,720
mag into multi-family. That just relabeling

2680
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:34,721
already

2681
01:37:34,721 --> 01:37:36,723
builtout commercial corridors. Legal

2682
01:37:36,723 --> 01:37:38,723
framework

2683
01:37:38,725 --> 01:37:39,726
establishes powerful default for transit

2684
01:37:39,726 --> 01:37:41,726
oriented

2685
01:37:41,728 --> 01:37:42,729
housing including minimum heights,

2686
01:37:42,729 --> 01:37:44,729
densities

2687
01:37:44,731 --> 01:37:48,331
and tier 1 and tier 2 transit stops.

2688
01:37:48,735 --> 01:37:50,737
a city may deviate only if it

2689
01:37:50,737 --> 01:37:52,739
documents a local transit oriented

2690
01:37:52,739 --> 01:37:54,741
development alternative plan that

2691
01:37:54,741 --> 01:37:57,141
one, is approved by

2692
01:37:57,711 --> 01:37:59,713
hcd before july 1st, 2026, and

2693
01:37:59,713 --> 01:38:00,714
two, maintains at least the same total

2694
01:38:00,714 --> 01:38:02,714
increase

2695
01:38:02,716 --> 01:38:03,717
in zoned capacity in terms of both

2696
01:38:03,717 --> 01:38:05,717
total units

2697
01:38:05,719 --> 01:38:06,720
and residential floor area, as provided

2698
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,720
by

2699
01:38:09,723 --> 01:38:11,723
sb 79 crass all

2700
01:38:15,729 --> 01:38:17,729
signs.

2701
01:38:17,731 --> 01:38:20,734
it will remain part of the written record.

2702
01:38:20,734 --> 01:38:21,735
I'll do one last check to make sure we

2703
01:38:21,735 --> 01:38:23,735
don't have

2704
01:38:24,738 --> 01:38:26,738
any other

2705
01:38:27,741 --> 01:38:29,741
comments.

2706
01:38:36,717 --> 01:38:38,719
it looks like that concludes the

2707
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:39,720
public comments.

2708
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:40,721
>> thank you. At

2709
01:38:40,721 --> 01:38:41,722
this

2710
01:38:41,722 --> 01:38:45,726
point we will move to commissioner questions of staff.

2711
01:38:45,726 --> 01:38:48,126
commissioner ross, would you

2712
01:38:48,729 --> 01:38:49,730
like to start? Let me

2713
01:38:49,730 --> 01:38:51,732
rephrase that. Commissioner ross,

2714
01:38:51,732 --> 01:38:54,132
kick us off, please.

2715
01:38:54,735 --> 01:38:56,735
>>

2716
01:38:57,738 --> 01:38:58,739
yeah. I've honestly spent the last

2717
01:38:58,739 --> 01:38:59,740
week or so

2718
01:38:59,740 --> 01:39:00,741
trying to understand this and you

2719
01:39:00,741 --> 01:39:03,710
did a great job presenting it to us.

2720
01:39:03,710 --> 01:39:06,110
within various scenarios, and

2721
01:39:06,713 --> 01:39:08,715
alternatives and tiers, it is

2722
01:39:08,715 --> 01:39:09,716
really complicated. And I'm not sure

2723
01:39:09,716 --> 01:39:11,716
I'm in a

2724
01:39:12,719 --> 01:39:13,720
position to really make an

2725
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,722
intelligent decision yet. So I have a number of

2726
01:39:15,722 --> 01:39:18,122
questions and I hope

2727
01:39:18,725 --> 01:39:21,725
I get therethere in meeting.

2728
01:39:21,728 --> 01:39:23,728
just as a

2729
01:39:24,731 --> 01:39:27,731
preliminary matter, I'm looking at

2730
01:39:27,734 --> 01:39:30,737
the very first map we have. The

2731
01:39:30,737 --> 01:39:32,737
draft sb

2732
01:39:33,740 --> 01:39:35,740
79 base zone map.

2733
01:39:36,710 --> 01:39:39,710
as a preliminary matter, you

2734
01:39:39,713 --> 01:39:41,713
have, excluding

2735
01:39:42,716 --> 01:39:44,716
century

2736
01:39:45,719 --> 01:39:46,720
city, I think up something about, there

2737
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,720
is

2738
01:39:48,722 --> 01:39:50,722
been a finding

2739
01:39:51,725 --> 01:39:52,726
relative to the century city that

2740
01:39:52,726 --> 01:39:54,726
it does

2741
01:39:54,728 --> 01:39:55,729
not impact any properties in

2742
01:39:55,729 --> 01:39:57,731
beverly hills? Something up about

2743
01:39:57,731 --> 01:39:58,732
that. Can you repeat that?

2744
01:39:58,732 --> 01:40:00,732
>> sure.

2745
01:40:00,734 --> 01:40:03,737
you can see with the map

2746
01:40:03,737 --> 01:40:04,738
shown on the screen, the century city

2747
01:40:04,738 --> 01:40:05,739
station

2748
01:40:05,739 --> 01:40:06,740
is at the bottom left. The quarter

2749
01:40:06,740 --> 01:40:08,740
mile

2750
01:40:09,710 --> 01:40:12,110
radius, actually, the only

2751
01:40:12,713 --> 01:40:15,716
radius which the upzoning occurs per

2752
01:40:15,716 --> 01:40:18,719
state law. It only touches that

2753
01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:19,720
one prt which I believe is

2754
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,723
the beverly hills high school property.

2755
01:40:22,723 --> 01:40:24,723
>> okay.

2756
01:40:25,726 --> 01:40:28,729
>> so because that parcel is not

2757
01:40:28,729 --> 01:40:29,730
zoned for

2758
01:40:29,730 --> 01:40:31,732
commercial, residential, or mixed

2759
01:40:31,732 --> 01:40:33,734
uses, it does not apply.

2760
01:40:33,734 --> 01:40:34,735
>> from the green to the red, that

2761
01:40:34,735 --> 01:40:36,735
is the half

2762
01:40:36,737 --> 01:40:37,738
mile radius. Correct?

2763
01:40:37,738 --> 01:40:38,739
>> correct.

2764
01:40:38,739 --> 01:40:40,739
>> what occurs

2765
01:40:40,741 --> 01:40:41,742
within the half

2766
01:40:41,742 --> 01:40:43,710
>> that

2767
01:40:43,710 --> 01:40:45,710
is considered

2768
01:40:46,713 --> 01:40:49,113
the transit zone under

2769
01:40:49,716 --> 01:40:52,716
the law. So although sb

2770
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:54,719
79 only applies for

2771
01:40:54,721 --> 01:40:55,722
a quarter mile radius, we are able to

2772
01:40:55,722 --> 01:40:57,722
distribute

2773
01:40:57,724 --> 01:40:58,725
units within the half mail area which

2774
01:40:58,725 --> 01:40:59,726
is what scenario

2775
01:40:59,726 --> 01:41:01,728
one does in the alternative plan.

2776
01:41:01,728 --> 01:41:02,729
and that's

2777
01:41:02,729 --> 01:41:04,731
the only scenario that use that's

2778
01:41:04,731 --> 01:41:06,731
outer

2779
01:41:07,734 --> 01:41:08,735
ring.

2780
01:41:08,735 --> 01:41:10,735
>> scenario

2781
01:41:10,737 --> 01:41:12,737
1.

2782
01:41:16,710 --> 01:41:19,110
and that's on pagepage

2783
01:41:19,713 --> 01:41:20,714
6.1.

2784
01:41:20,714 --> 01:41:21,715
>> yes. >>

2785
01:41:21,715 --> 01:41:22,716
scenario 1 is the only one that extends

2786
01:41:22,716 --> 01:41:23,717
beyond the quarter mile.

2787
01:41:23,717 --> 01:41:25,717
>> correct.

2788
01:41:28,722 --> 01:41:30,722
I'll pull

2789
01:41:31,725 --> 01:41:33,725
up thethe 1 on

2790
01:41:34,728 --> 01:41:36,728
the screen here.

2791
01:41:37,731 --> 01:41:39,731
>> and

2792
01:41:40,734 --> 01:41:42,734
then

2793
01:41:43,737 --> 01:41:45,737
scenario 2,

2794
01:41:46,740 --> 01:41:48,742
tentpole, how do you distinguish

2795
01:41:48,742 --> 01:41:49,710
that from pancake?

2796
01:41:49,710 --> 01:41:50,711
>>> so the pancake, I would

2797
01:41:50,711 --> 01:41:52,711
say, is a

2798
01:41:52,713 --> 01:41:54,715
more gradual increase in density

2799
01:41:54,715 --> 01:41:55,716
across the entire half mile radius.

2800
01:41:55,716 --> 01:41:57,716
>> I'm sorry

2801
01:41:58,719 --> 01:41:59,720
to interrupt. I thought

2802
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,722
pancake was limited to the one quarter

2803
01:42:01,722 --> 01:42:02,723
radius.

2804
01:42:02,723 --> 01:42:04,723
>> no. It uses

2805
01:42:04,725 --> 01:42:07,125
the entire half mile.

2806
01:42:07,728 --> 01:42:10,731
you will see here on the

2807
01:42:10,731 --> 01:42:12,731
map, the

2808
01:42:12,733 --> 01:42:13,734
areas in blue extend all the way to the

2809
01:42:13,734 --> 01:42:15,734
half

2810
01:42:16,737 --> 01:42:18,737
mile radius.

2811
01:42:18,739 --> 01:42:19,740
>> did you change maps on me? >> sorry,

2812
01:42:19,740 --> 01:42:21,740
I

2813
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:24,711
did. This is scenario 1. The pancake

2814
01:42:24,711 --> 01:42:25,712
scenario. It is a more even distribution

2815
01:42:25,712 --> 01:42:28,112
because it uses all

2816
01:42:28,715 --> 01:42:31,718
the sites within the half mile

2817
01:42:31,718 --> 01:42:34,718
that are mixed-use import sites.

2818
01:42:34,721 --> 01:42:37,121
>> so scenario 1 goes -->>

2819
01:42:37,724 --> 01:42:40,124
out to the half

2820
01:42:40,727 --> 01:42:42,727
mile.

2821
01:42:42,729 --> 01:42:46,329
and then I'm changing to scenario 2.

2822
01:42:46,733 --> 01:42:48,733
so the

2823
01:42:49,736 --> 01:42:51,736
scenario 2, the tentpole

2824
01:42:51,738 --> 01:42:52,739
scenario, it maximizes the distribution

2825
01:42:52,739 --> 01:42:54,739
around

2826
01:42:55,709 --> 01:42:57,709
the station. 200-foot

2827
01:42:58,712 --> 01:42:59,713
radius and the quarter meanwhile-mile

2828
01:42:59,713 --> 01:43:01,713
radius.

2829
01:43:01,715 --> 01:43:03,715
so the

2830
01:43:04,718 --> 01:43:06,720
density is more. It accommodated all the

2831
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:07,721
units west didn't need to utilize

2832
01:43:07,721 --> 01:43:09,721
the outer quarter

2833
01:43:10,724 --> 01:43:13,727
to half mile ring for any of those

2834
01:43:13,727 --> 01:43:14,728
distributions.

2835
01:43:14,728 --> 01:43:15,729
>> so tentpole

2836
01:43:15,729 --> 01:43:18,732
limits to it one quarter mile radius from the

2837
01:43:18,732 --> 01:43:19,733
transit station.

2838
01:43:19,733 --> 01:43:21,733
>> from both are

2839
01:43:22,736 --> 01:43:23,737
transit stations.

2840
01:43:23,737 --> 01:43:25,737
>> both

2841
01:43:25,739 --> 01:43:27,739
meaning la

2842
01:43:28,742 --> 01:43:29,710
cienega and reaves?

2843
01:43:29,710 --> 01:43:30,711
>> yes. >> hold on

2844
01:43:30,711 --> 01:43:31,712
one

2845
01:43:31,712 --> 01:43:32,713
second.

2846
01:43:32,713 --> 01:43:33,714
>> can you actually pull up

2847
01:43:33,714 --> 01:43:34,715
the

2848
01:43:34,715 --> 01:43:36,715
other color maps?

2849
01:43:36,717 --> 01:43:40,721
I think it is easier to see how it is being distributed.

2850
01:43:40,721 --> 01:43:43,721
the teal and pink ones.

2851
01:43:46,727 --> 01:43:48,727
>>

2852
01:43:49,730 --> 01:43:51,732
also, the half mile radius, we

2853
01:43:51,732 --> 01:43:52,733
could under sb 79 have redistributed

2854
01:43:52,733 --> 01:43:54,733
units

2855
01:43:55,736 --> 01:43:58,736
there, none of the scenarios

2856
01:43:58,739 --> 01:44:00,739
redistribute

2857
01:44:01,742 --> 01:44:03,710
there. We have only

2858
01:44:03,710 --> 01:44:04,711
redistributed to the half mile radius to

2859
01:44:04,711 --> 01:44:06,711
the

2860
01:44:07,714 --> 01:44:09,714
two stations

2861
01:44:10,717 --> 01:44:12,717
around beverly hills.

2862
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,720
and we

2863
01:44:15,722 --> 01:44:16,723
did that to move it into an area where it

2864
01:44:16,723 --> 01:44:18,723
is not otherwise

2865
01:44:19,726 --> 01:44:21,726
increasing

2866
01:44:22,729 --> 01:44:24,729
density.

2867
01:44:25,732 --> 01:44:27,732
>>

2868
01:44:28,735 --> 01:44:30,737
if we want to back up a little

2869
01:44:30,737 --> 01:44:35,537
bit, I can go through these maps instead.

2870
01:44:40,714 --> 01:44:43,114
>> your presentation was great

2871
01:44:43,717 --> 01:44:46,720
but a lot of it was

2872
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:48,722
like, hard to digest. It promise me to

2873
01:44:48,722 --> 01:44:49,723
ask these questions. Bear with me if

2874
01:44:49,723 --> 01:44:51,723
you

2875
01:44:52,726 --> 01:44:54,726
don't mind.

2876
01:44:55,729 --> 01:44:57,729
scenario 2,

2877
01:44:57,731 --> 01:45:00,731
tentpole, confines all the increased

2878
01:45:01,735 --> 01:45:04,735
density to 1 quarter mile from

2879
01:45:04,738 --> 01:45:06,738
the la

2880
01:45:07,741 --> 01:45:10,141
cienega and reaves stations.

2881
01:45:10,711 --> 01:45:13,714
and it goes half a mail, goes

2882
01:45:13,714 --> 01:45:14,715
a quarter mile --

2883
01:45:14,715 --> 01:45:16,715
>> but --

2884
01:45:16,717 --> 01:45:18,719
>> let me say it my way.

2885
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:21,722
you're being very courteous. I appreciate

2886
01:45:21,722 --> 01:45:22,723
it. Limits the upzoning to a quarter

2887
01:45:22,723 --> 01:45:24,723
mile from

2888
01:45:25,726 --> 01:45:28,126
the la cienega station.

2889
01:45:28,729 --> 01:45:29,730
>> one point of clarification. It

2890
01:45:29,730 --> 01:45:31,732
only limits the redistribution to

2891
01:45:31,732 --> 01:45:34,732
the area around the la

2892
01:45:34,735 --> 01:45:36,737
cienega station. There's still upzoning

2893
01:45:36,737 --> 01:45:37,738
during per sb 79 at the other station.

2894
01:45:37,738 --> 01:45:39,738
it's just

2895
01:45:39,740 --> 01:45:40,741
that we're not adding additional density

2896
01:45:40,741 --> 01:45:42,741
per the alternative

2897
01:45:43,710 --> 01:45:45,712
plan around the reuse

2898
01:45:45,712 --> 01:45:46,713
wilshire station in this scenario.

2899
01:45:46,713 --> 01:45:48,713
>> okay.

2900
01:45:49,716 --> 01:45:52,716
>> would you say that again? >>

2901
01:45:52,719 --> 01:45:53,720
sb 79 is doing it. It is just, we're

2902
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,720
not

2903
01:45:55,722 --> 01:45:57,722
adding additional in

2904
01:45:58,725 --> 01:46:01,728
that area. There's going to be increased

2905
01:46:01,728 --> 01:46:04,128
density. In area because

2906
01:46:04,731 --> 01:46:07,734
sb 79 will have it. Will make

2907
01:46:07,734 --> 01:46:09,736
it happen. But the city isn't then

2908
01:46:09,736 --> 01:46:10,737
redistributing extra density in that

2909
01:46:10,737 --> 01:46:12,737
area under

2910
01:46:13,740 --> 01:46:14,741
that scenario.

2911
01:46:14,741 --> 01:46:15,709
>> it's making up for

2912
01:46:15,709 --> 01:46:16,710
it how?

2913
01:46:16,710 --> 01:46:18,710
>> putting more

2914
01:46:18,712 --> 01:46:19,713
density than would otherwise be in

2915
01:46:19,713 --> 01:46:21,713
the other

2916
01:46:21,715 --> 01:46:22,716
scenarios.

2917
01:46:22,716 --> 01:46:23,717
>> that's correct. If you look at the

2918
01:46:23,717 --> 01:46:24,718
map, you can

2919
01:46:24,718 --> 01:46:25,719
see the pink sites are only limited

2920
01:46:25,719 --> 01:46:27,719
around

2921
01:46:27,721 --> 01:46:28,722
the la cienega station in scenario

2922
01:46:28,722 --> 01:46:31,122
three. So those are

2923
01:46:31,725 --> 01:46:34,725
the only sites that are

2924
01:46:35,729 --> 01:46:36,730
being added more than what

2925
01:46:36,730 --> 01:46:37,731
sb 79 already allows.

2926
01:46:37,731 --> 01:46:38,732
>> what's the

2927
01:46:38,732 --> 01:46:40,732
purpose

2928
01:46:41,735 --> 01:46:42,736
of that?

2929
01:46:42,736 --> 01:46:44,736
>> it allows -->>

2930
01:46:44,738 --> 01:46:45,739
it enables us to show the

2931
01:46:45,739 --> 01:46:46,740
state something.

2932
01:46:46,740 --> 01:46:47,741
>> it allows to us

2933
01:46:47,741 --> 01:46:50,711
remove up to 50% of the density

2934
01:46:50,711 --> 01:46:52,711
from single-family sites

2935
01:46:52,713 --> 01:46:53,714
that were upzoned by sb 79. We're taking

2936
01:46:53,714 --> 01:46:55,714
that

2937
01:46:56,717 --> 01:46:58,719
50% density and moving it

2938
01:46:58,719 --> 01:47:01,722
to mixed-use sites, the pink sites

2939
01:47:01,722 --> 01:47:02,723
here, those are already designated

2940
01:47:02,723 --> 01:47:04,723
for

2941
01:47:04,725 --> 01:47:05,726
additional housing and development.

2942
01:47:05,726 --> 01:47:07,726
>> okay. Those

2943
01:47:08,729 --> 01:47:09,730
are duplexes or

2944
01:47:09,730 --> 01:47:10,731
fourplexes.

2945
01:47:10,731 --> 01:47:11,732
>> they're commercially-

2946
01:47:11,732 --> 01:47:13,732
owned

2947
01:47:13,734 --> 01:47:16,734
partsels along the corridors that

2948
01:47:17,738 --> 01:47:19,738
allow the mixed-use.

2949
01:47:20,741 --> 01:47:22,709
>> okay. >> I can go back.

2950
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:23,710
this is scenario three. You can look at

2951
01:47:23,710 --> 01:47:25,710
the pink around

2952
01:47:25,712 --> 01:47:26,713
the la cienega station. And then scenario

2953
01:47:26,713 --> 01:47:28,713
2, you

2954
01:47:28,715 --> 01:47:29,716
see the pifrg around both stations.

2955
01:47:29,716 --> 01:47:31,716
it

2956
01:47:31,718 --> 01:47:32,719
is only in the quarter mile. And then

2957
01:47:32,719 --> 01:47:34,719
scenario 1,

2958
01:47:34,721 --> 01:47:38,725
you see how it extends the pink out to

2959
01:47:38,725 --> 01:47:39,726
the half mile.

2960
01:47:39,726 --> 01:47:40,727
around both.

2961
01:47:40,727 --> 01:47:41,728
>> and it is limited

2962
01:47:41,728 --> 01:47:42,729
to those specific properties.

2963
01:47:42,729 --> 01:47:43,730
>>

2964
01:47:43,730 --> 01:47:46,733
the additional increase in density that the

2965
01:47:46,733 --> 01:47:50,333
alternative plan would allow are limited.

2966
01:47:50,737 --> 01:47:53,740
the quarter mail radius is also

2967
01:47:53,740 --> 01:47:56,710
upzoned the base density is

2968
01:47:56,710 --> 01:47:58,710
upzoned per sb

2969
01:47:59,713 --> 01:48:00,714
79.

2970
01:48:00,714 --> 01:48:01,715
>> okay.

2971
01:48:01,715 --> 01:48:05,719
>> how do we have the, within the dictates of

2972
01:48:05,719 --> 01:48:07,719
sb 79, we have

2973
01:48:08,722 --> 01:48:09,723
to demonstrate to the state,

2974
01:48:09,723 --> 01:48:11,725
much like we had to with respect to

2975
01:48:11,725 --> 01:48:14,725
our housing element, that we

2976
01:48:14,728 --> 01:48:17,728
have the ability to have

2977
01:48:17,731 --> 01:48:18,732
this much density.

2978
01:48:18,732 --> 01:48:20,734
and is it, am I correct that staff

2979
01:48:20,734 --> 01:48:22,734
came up with

2980
01:48:23,737 --> 01:48:26,737
these three scenarios as ways

2981
01:48:26,740 --> 01:48:29,710
to show the state that through one

2982
01:48:29,710 --> 01:48:32,110
of these mechanisms, we

2983
01:48:32,713 --> 01:48:35,113
are complying with sb 79.

2984
01:48:35,716 --> 01:48:37,718
>> correct. >> okay. And the

2985
01:48:37,718 --> 01:48:38,719
adoption of the alternative plan allows to

2986
01:48:38,719 --> 01:48:40,719
us

2987
01:48:40,721 --> 01:48:43,721
utilize these flew densities rather

2988
01:48:43,724 --> 01:48:44,725
than what just state law says.

2989
01:48:44,725 --> 01:48:45,726
>>

2990
01:48:45,726 --> 01:48:47,726
which is?

2991
01:48:47,728 --> 01:48:49,730
>> the upzoning in the quarter

2992
01:48:49,730 --> 01:48:53,330
mile radius and which would apply

2993
01:48:53,734 --> 01:48:55,734
the 100%

2994
01:48:55,736 --> 01:48:56,737
density. This allows us to reduce

2995
01:48:56,737 --> 01:48:59,137
the density on single-

2996
01:48:59,740 --> 01:49:01,740
family sites.

2997
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:05,109
>> these plans aren't acquired.

2998
01:49:05,712 --> 01:49:06,713
>> that's helpful. >> not that

2999
01:49:06,713 --> 01:49:08,715
they're required but our planners

3000
01:49:08,715 --> 01:49:10,717
and our staff are

3001
01:49:10,717 --> 01:49:11,718
proposing these as a way to simultaneously

3002
01:49:11,718 --> 01:49:13,718
comply

3003
01:49:14,721 --> 01:49:16,721
with sb

3004
01:49:17,724 --> 01:49:19,724
79 and distribute the

3005
01:49:19,726 --> 01:49:20,727
increased density and upzoning in

3006
01:49:20,727 --> 01:49:22,727
ways

3007
01:49:23,730 --> 01:49:26,730
reserve some aspects of our

3008
01:49:26,733 --> 01:49:28,735
city. Within the dictates of sb

3009
01:49:28,735 --> 01:49:29,736
79. And this will not happen. What

3010
01:49:29,736 --> 01:49:31,736
if we

3011
01:49:31,738 --> 01:49:32,739
don't get an approval. If we don't

3012
01:49:32,739 --> 01:49:34,739
do this in

3013
01:49:35,742 --> 01:49:37,742
a timely manner,

3014
01:49:38,712 --> 01:49:41,712
and/or the state drags

3015
01:49:41,715 --> 01:49:43,717
its feet, like some people think we did

3016
01:49:43,717 --> 01:49:47,721
with respect to the housing element --

3017
01:49:47,721 --> 01:49:49,721
sorry? Then what

3018
01:49:50,724 --> 01:49:52,726
happens? It was dictated, as the chair

3019
01:49:52,726 --> 01:49:53,727
just that. What does that mean?

3020
01:49:53,727 --> 01:49:54,728
>> so

3021
01:49:54,728 --> 01:49:56,730
one of the reasons

3022
01:49:56,730 --> 01:49:57,731
we're presenting this in a very

3023
01:49:57,731 --> 01:49:59,733
compressed time line, we want to allow for

3024
01:49:59,733 --> 01:50:01,733
that 120-day

3025
01:50:02,736 --> 01:50:04,738
review period by hcd. If we

3026
01:50:04,738 --> 01:50:07,741
adopt, if the city council documents

3027
01:50:07,741 --> 01:50:08,742
this plan in january, that 120-day period

3028
01:50:08,742 --> 01:50:10,711
would run through the end

3029
01:50:10,711 --> 01:50:11,712
of may which gives us an opportunity

3030
01:50:11,712 --> 01:50:13,712
to address

3031
01:50:13,714 --> 01:50:14,715
any of the comments and make changes

3032
01:50:14,715 --> 01:50:16,715
so we can

3033
01:50:17,718 --> 01:50:19,720
bring the plan into compliance.

3034
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:20,721
staff has been working with and is

3035
01:50:20,721 --> 01:50:22,721
in

3036
01:50:23,724 --> 01:50:24,725
direct contact with members of with

3037
01:50:24,725 --> 01:50:26,725
hcd.

3038
01:50:26,727 --> 01:50:27,728
we're addressing how to

3039
01:50:27,728 --> 01:50:28,729
comply with the regulations.

3040
01:50:28,729 --> 01:50:29,730
>> are

3041
01:50:29,730 --> 01:50:31,730
we being

3042
01:50:31,732 --> 01:50:32,733
asked today to pick scenario 1, 2,

3043
01:50:32,733 --> 01:50:33,734
or 3?

3044
01:50:33,734 --> 01:50:35,734
>>

3045
01:50:35,736 --> 01:50:36,737
yes.

3046
01:50:36,737 --> 01:50:38,739
>> then it will go to

3047
01:50:38,739 --> 01:50:39,740
council.

3048
01:50:39,740 --> 01:50:41,740
>>

3049
01:50:41,742 --> 01:50:43,742
light duty.

3050
01:50:47,714 --> 01:50:50,714
and if we select 1, 2, or

3051
01:50:50,717 --> 01:50:52,717
3, not

3052
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:53,720
we, council picks, documents 1, 2,

3053
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,720
or

3054
01:50:56,723 --> 01:50:58,725
3, that the state will find

3055
01:50:58,725 --> 01:51:01,125
that sufficient and satisfactory?

3056
01:51:02,729 --> 01:51:05,129
>> yes. Staff believes all

3057
01:51:05,732 --> 01:51:07,732
three scenarios comply

3058
01:51:08,735 --> 01:51:09,736
with all the requirements of sb 79.

3059
01:51:09,736 --> 01:51:10,737
>> thank you. Now I want

3060
01:51:10,737 --> 01:51:11,738
to back up again one more moment.

3061
01:51:11,738 --> 01:51:13,738
and

3062
01:51:14,741 --> 01:51:17,711
I want to try to simplify this

3063
01:51:17,711 --> 01:51:20,714
if at all possible. If I'm not mistaken.

3064
01:51:20,714 --> 01:51:23,114
scenario 1 extends the upzoning

3065
01:51:23,717 --> 01:51:25,717
beyond the half

3066
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,720
mile intointo

3067
01:51:28,722 --> 01:51:29,723
the, beyond the quarter mail into

3068
01:51:29,723 --> 01:51:31,723
the half

3069
01:51:32,726 --> 01:51:33,727
mile radius.

3070
01:51:33,727 --> 01:51:35,727
>> number 3 --

3071
01:51:35,729 --> 01:51:36,730
number 2, limits the upzoning to a

3072
01:51:36,730 --> 01:51:38,730
quarter

3073
01:51:38,732 --> 01:51:40,734
mile from la cienega and reaves.

3074
01:51:40,734 --> 01:51:41,735
>> correct. >> can you tell me about

3075
01:51:41,735 --> 01:51:43,735
number

3076
01:51:44,738 --> 01:51:45,739
3?

3077
01:51:45,739 --> 01:51:46,740
>> it limits it to only the quarter

3078
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:47,741
mile

3079
01:51:47,741 --> 01:51:49,741
from la

3080
01:51:50,711 --> 01:51:51,712
cienega.

3081
01:51:51,712 --> 01:51:53,714
>> and there were a number

3082
01:51:53,714 --> 01:51:55,716
of speakers that talked

3083
01:51:55,716 --> 01:51:56,717
about access to the freeways and activating

3084
01:51:56,717 --> 01:51:58,717
that part of

3085
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,723
the city. And those were people

3086
01:52:02,723 --> 01:52:03,724
that were proponents of scenario 3,

3087
01:52:03,724 --> 01:52:05,724
if I

3088
01:52:05,726 --> 01:52:06,727
heard correctly.

3089
01:52:06,727 --> 01:52:08,727
>> correct.

3090
01:52:08,729 --> 01:52:10,729
>> mr.

3091
01:52:11,732 --> 01:52:12,733
pastrnak.

3092
01:52:12,733 --> 01:52:13,734
>> I

3093
01:52:13,734 --> 01:52:14,735
probably have some other questions.

3094
01:52:14,735 --> 01:52:17,135
that's at least a

3095
01:52:17,738 --> 01:52:19,738
good baseline. I

3096
01:52:20,741 --> 01:52:23,710
didn't have the benefit of

3097
01:52:23,710 --> 01:52:26,110
this. Read aing this

3098
01:52:26,713 --> 01:52:28,713
was very thick.

3099
01:52:28,715 --> 01:52:29,716
I'm going to defer for now if I have

3100
01:52:29,716 --> 01:52:31,716
more questions.

3101
01:52:31,718 --> 01:52:32,719
may I? Okay. Thank you very much.

3102
01:52:32,719 --> 01:52:34,719
thank you.

3103
01:52:35,722 --> 01:52:37,722
>>

3104
01:52:38,725 --> 01:52:39,726
vice chairchair milkowski?

3105
01:52:39,726 --> 01:52:41,726
>> my

3106
01:52:41,728 --> 01:52:43,728
head

3107
01:52:44,731 --> 01:52:45,732
is already going around and around.

3108
01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:46,733
chloe, thank you for

3109
01:52:46,733 --> 01:52:49,733
the explanation yesterday and what

3110
01:52:51,738 --> 01:52:53,738
you've explained today.

3111
01:52:53,740 --> 01:52:56,710
if I understand this correctly, in

3112
01:52:56,710 --> 01:53:00,714
our proposal to hcd, whichever scenario we

3113
01:53:00,714 --> 01:53:02,714
go with, these

3114
01:53:03,717 --> 01:53:05,717
are

3115
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:07,721
theoretical units that can be --

3116
01:53:07,721 --> 01:53:09,721
>>

3117
01:53:09,723 --> 01:53:10,724
correct.

3118
01:53:10,724 --> 01:53:11,725
>>

3119
01:53:11,725 --> 01:53:12,726
built.

3120
01:53:12,726 --> 01:53:15,726
>> I was not parcelparcel to

3121
01:53:15,729 --> 01:53:18,129
original hcd application that

3122
01:53:18,732 --> 01:53:21,735
seemed to have gone on forever.

3123
01:53:21,735 --> 01:53:23,735
does our state

3124
01:53:24,738 --> 01:53:26,738
housing department,

3125
01:53:27,741 --> 01:53:29,710
how do they analyze the

3126
01:53:29,710 --> 01:53:32,110
realistic, applying the theoretical

3127
01:53:33,714 --> 01:53:34,715
to reality?

3128
01:53:34,715 --> 01:53:36,717
>> the letters, it is a reference to

3129
01:53:36,717 --> 01:53:38,717
a

3130
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,722
standard that the housing

3131
01:53:41,722 --> 01:53:42,723
element exercise is held to. When

3132
01:53:42,723 --> 01:53:44,723
we did the

3133
01:53:44,725 --> 01:53:45,726
last housing element update, we had to

3134
01:53:45,726 --> 01:53:47,726
show that

3135
01:53:48,729 --> 01:53:49,730
the city could accommodate the

3136
01:53:49,730 --> 01:53:51,732
application, the number of units,

3137
01:53:51,732 --> 01:53:53,734
number one, and number two,

3138
01:53:53,734 --> 01:53:55,736
that there was realistic capacity

3139
01:53:55,736 --> 01:53:57,738
meaning they are realistic within

3140
01:53:57,738 --> 01:54:00,738
the next planning period cycle.

3141
01:54:03,710 --> 01:54:05,712
they are still working

3142
01:54:05,712 --> 01:54:06,713
on developing guidance. We expect

3143
01:54:06,713 --> 01:54:08,713
to receive that

3144
01:54:08,715 --> 01:54:09,716
guidance from them. I don't know if

3145
01:54:09,716 --> 01:54:11,716
michael has

3146
01:54:11,718 --> 01:54:12,719
got additional.

3147
01:54:12,719 --> 01:54:13,720
>> just to expand

3148
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:14,721
on it,

3149
01:54:14,721 --> 01:54:15,722
there is nothing in the legislation

3150
01:54:15,722 --> 01:54:17,722
that suggests

3151
01:54:18,725 --> 01:54:21,728
that this will be held to the same

3152
01:54:21,728 --> 01:54:23,730
standard, and our assumption

3153
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:27,734
is that it won't. The order of magnitude of this

3154
01:54:27,734 --> 01:54:30,737
is so far beyond what we had to do with

3155
01:54:30,737 --> 01:54:33,740
the arena. Our arena number is

3156
01:54:33,740 --> 01:54:35,742
a little over 3,000. As we mentioned

3157
01:54:35,742 --> 01:54:36,710
in the staff report, the net increase

3158
01:54:36,710 --> 01:54:38,710
in units under

3159
01:54:39,713 --> 01:54:41,713
sb79

3160
01:54:42,716 --> 01:54:43,717
theoretically is a little over 17,000

3161
01:54:43,717 --> 01:54:45,717
units.

3162
01:54:45,719 --> 01:54:46,720
so it is just a completely different

3163
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:48,720
order

3164
01:54:48,722 --> 01:54:49,723
of magnitude, and the difference in

3165
01:54:49,723 --> 01:54:50,724
the

3166
01:54:50,724 --> 01:54:51,725
two approaches is that under the general

3167
01:54:51,725 --> 01:54:53,725
plan housing element

3168
01:54:54,728 --> 01:54:55,729
we have to identify the site. It is

3169
01:54:55,729 --> 01:54:57,729
up

3170
01:54:57,731 --> 01:54:59,733
to the city to pick

3171
01:54:59,733 --> 01:55:00,734
the geographic area the sites will

3172
01:55:00,734 --> 01:55:02,734
be located

3173
01:55:02,736 --> 01:55:03,737
and in this situation the legislation

3174
01:55:03,737 --> 01:55:06,137
is dictating to us

3175
01:55:06,740 --> 01:55:07,741
where we must put the unit. It wouldn't

3176
01:55:07,741 --> 01:55:09,710
be fair

3177
01:55:09,710 --> 01:55:10,711
to hold it to the same standard because

3178
01:55:10,711 --> 01:55:12,711
this is

3179
01:55:12,713 --> 01:55:13,714
significantly limiting where we can

3180
01:55:13,714 --> 01:55:15,714
put the

3181
01:55:15,716 --> 01:55:17,718
units. To say the sites are not viable

3182
01:55:17,718 --> 01:55:18,719
when legislation says that you have

3183
01:55:18,719 --> 01:55:20,721
to put it there, our hope

3184
01:55:20,721 --> 01:55:21,722
and assumption is that it will not

3185
01:55:21,722 --> 01:55:23,724
be held to the same

3186
01:55:23,724 --> 01:55:24,725
standard, and there is nothing in the

3187
01:55:24,725 --> 01:55:27,725
legislation suggesting it would be.

3188
01:55:27,728 --> 01:55:30,728
>> thank you both for your

3189
01:55:30,731 --> 01:55:32,731
clarification. I

3190
01:55:33,734 --> 01:55:36,734
know t you addressedaddressed earlier,

3191
01:55:36,737 --> 01:55:37,738
michael. Why aren't we expanding in

3192
01:55:37,738 --> 01:55:39,738
the

3193
01:55:39,740 --> 01:55:42,743
scenario, the pancake by the high

3194
01:55:42,743 --> 01:55:43,710
school to the half mile?

3195
01:55:43,710 --> 01:55:44,711
>> because

3196
01:55:44,711 --> 01:55:45,712
in that

3197
01:55:45,712 --> 01:55:46,713
area there is no up zoning applicable

3198
01:55:46,713 --> 01:55:48,713
under

3199
01:55:49,716 --> 01:55:52,719
sb79. Because we are only applying in

3200
01:55:52,719 --> 01:55:53,720
the quarter mile, the only

3201
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,722
property falling within that is the high

3202
01:55:55,722 --> 01:55:56,723
school, and under legislation it

3203
01:55:56,723 --> 01:55:58,725
does not apply to the high school.

3204
01:55:58,725 --> 01:56:00,725
so within the

3205
01:56:00,727 --> 01:56:04,731
half mile there is no increase in

3206
01:56:04,731 --> 01:56:07,131
density there under sb79.

3207
01:56:07,734 --> 01:56:08,735
we have the option to

3208
01:56:08,735 --> 01:56:10,737
import units which would increase

3209
01:56:10,737 --> 01:56:13,737
the density in that part

3210
01:56:13,740 --> 01:56:16,710
of the city. We opted

3211
01:56:16,710 --> 01:56:18,712
as a policy matter not to move the

3212
01:56:18,712 --> 01:56:19,713
density into that area and to keep

3213
01:56:19,713 --> 01:56:21,713
it

3214
01:56:21,715 --> 01:56:22,716
focused on our two metro stations

3215
01:56:22,716 --> 01:56:24,716
in the

3216
01:56:25,719 --> 01:56:26,720
city.

3217
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,720
>> okay. Thank you.

3218
01:56:43,737 --> 01:56:46,740
am I correct in assuming that each that the

3219
01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:48,740
three

3220
01:56:48,742 --> 01:56:49,710
scenarios reached the 17,000 unit

3221
01:56:49,710 --> 01:56:51,710
capacity?

3222
01:56:51,712 --> 01:56:52,713
>> correct. We are maintaining the

3223
01:56:52,713 --> 01:56:55,716
same net zone capacity in each scenario.

3224
01:56:55,716 --> 01:56:57,716
>>

3225
01:56:58,719 --> 01:57:01,722
so, our choice, if I --our

3226
01:57:01,722 --> 01:57:04,722
decision making if I understand

3227
01:57:04,725 --> 01:57:06,725
it

3228
01:57:07,728 --> 01:57:09,728
correctly

3229
01:57:10,731 --> 01:57:12,731
is

3230
01:57:13,734 --> 01:57:15,734
adopting a plan,

3231
01:57:16,737 --> 01:57:19,740
regardless of which we adopt we

3232
01:57:19,740 --> 01:57:21,742
are assuming hcd will go along

3233
01:57:21,742 --> 01:57:22,743
with it.

3234
01:57:22,743 --> 01:57:23,710
>> correct. The request is

3235
01:57:23,710 --> 01:57:24,711
for you to

3236
01:57:24,711 --> 01:57:25,712
recommend which scenario that you would

3237
01:57:25,712 --> 01:57:27,712
like to have

3238
01:57:27,714 --> 01:57:31,314
the city council consider for adoption,

3239
01:57:31,718 --> 01:57:33,720
and then staff does believe that

3240
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,724
each scenario complies with all of the

3241
01:57:37,724 --> 01:57:38,725
requirements.

3242
01:57:38,725 --> 01:57:39,726
>> so with the

3243
01:57:39,726 --> 01:57:40,727
council looking over our shoulder,

3244
01:57:40,727 --> 01:57:42,727
if

3245
01:57:43,730 --> 01:57:45,732
we were to recommend a

3246
01:57:45,732 --> 01:57:46,733
certain scenario they still could

3247
01:57:46,733 --> 01:57:48,733
reject

3248
01:57:49,736 --> 01:57:52,739
the recommendation and go with another

3249
01:57:52,739 --> 01:57:53,740
scenario?

3250
01:57:53,740 --> 01:57:55,740
>> correct.

3251
01:57:55,742 --> 01:57:58,142
>> so it is more

3252
01:57:58,712 --> 01:58:00,712
basically our preference

3253
01:58:01,715 --> 01:58:03,717
of how we want

3254
01:58:03,717 --> 01:58:04,718
to recommend the allocation?

3255
01:58:04,718 --> 01:58:05,719
>> yes.

3256
01:58:05,719 --> 01:58:06,720
>> I guess

3257
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:07,721
that I understand it as well as I am going to.

3258
01:58:07,721 --> 01:58:09,721
>> thank you.

3259
01:58:16,730 --> 01:58:18,730
>> one of the

3260
01:58:18,732 --> 01:58:19,733
public commenters raised the first

3261
01:58:19,733 --> 01:58:22,133
question on my list.

3262
01:58:22,736 --> 01:58:25,739
why did we only consider multiuse

3263
01:58:25,739 --> 01:58:27,741
overlay zones for the export

3264
01:58:27,741 --> 01:58:28,742
use and not multi family?

3265
01:58:28,742 --> 01:58:29,743
>> you can

3266
01:58:29,743 --> 01:58:30,711
see it on

3267
01:58:30,711 --> 01:58:31,712
the maps. There are a large number

3268
01:58:31,712 --> 01:58:33,712
of

3269
01:58:34,715 --> 01:58:36,717
parcels in the quarter mile

3270
01:58:36,717 --> 01:58:37,718
radius around bus stations that are not any

3271
01:58:37,718 --> 01:58:40,118
color. They are the

3272
01:58:40,721 --> 01:58:42,723
white parcels. Those are existing multi

3273
01:58:42,723 --> 01:58:43,724
family unit parcels that are subject

3274
01:58:43,724 --> 01:58:45,724
to the

3275
01:58:45,726 --> 01:58:48,126
city's rent stabilization ordinance.

3276
01:58:49,730 --> 01:58:51,730
sb79

3277
01:58:52,733 --> 01:58:54,733
specifically exempts

3278
01:58:55,736 --> 01:58:58,136
those from any up

3279
01:58:58,739 --> 01:59:00,739
zoning.

3280
01:59:01,742 --> 01:59:03,710
>> it

3281
01:59:03,710 --> 01:59:04,711
wasn't just they are exempted from

3282
01:59:04,711 --> 01:59:06,711
the effects

3283
01:59:07,714 --> 01:59:09,716
of sb79. They are exempted

3284
01:59:09,716 --> 01:59:10,717
from our ability to export and up

3285
01:59:10,717 --> 01:59:13,717
zone as a result of

3286
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:14,721
the alternative plan?

3287
01:59:14,721 --> 01:59:16,721
>> both.

3288
01:59:16,723 --> 01:59:19,123
>> okay. >> however, there are

3289
01:59:19,726 --> 01:59:22,726
some --here. Only ones would

3290
01:59:22,729 --> 01:59:24,729
be the condos.

3291
01:59:25,732 --> 01:59:28,735
>> yes. The only multi family shown

3292
01:59:28,735 --> 01:59:31,135
on the base map

3293
01:59:31,738 --> 01:59:32,739
in orange are the condos.

3294
01:59:32,739 --> 01:59:33,740
>> that

3295
01:59:33,740 --> 01:59:34,741
answers

3296
01:59:34,741 --> 01:59:37,711
the questions. I understood sb79 did

3297
01:59:37,711 --> 01:59:39,713
not apply but I did not know

3298
01:59:39,713 --> 01:59:40,714
it they were exempted to use them

3299
01:59:40,714 --> 01:59:42,714
as

3300
01:59:43,717 --> 01:59:46,720
the receivers of some of the

3301
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:48,720
density.

3302
01:59:48,722 --> 01:59:49,723
I was at the study question when it

3303
01:59:49,723 --> 01:59:51,723
was

3304
01:59:52,726 --> 01:59:55,729
discussed. I heard the city council's

3305
01:59:55,729 --> 01:59:58,732
recommendation. I am still going to

3306
01:59:58,732 --> 02:00:01,132
ask the question what

3307
02:00:01,735 --> 02:00:04,135
is the goal of

3308
02:00:04,738 --> 02:00:07,138
providing an alternative plan?

3309
02:00:07,741 --> 02:00:10,141
>> the alternative plan allows

3310
02:00:10,711 --> 02:00:12,711
the city to

3311
02:00:13,714 --> 02:00:14,715
exert a small level of control over

3312
02:00:14,715 --> 02:00:16,715
where

3313
02:00:16,717 --> 02:00:19,717
the density is going. Mr.

3314
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:22,720
forbes mentioned it, the state

3315
02:00:22,723 --> 02:00:23,724
already determined the areas around

3316
02:00:23,724 --> 02:00:25,724
the

3317
02:00:25,726 --> 02:00:26,727
transit station will be up zoned allowing

3318
02:00:26,727 --> 02:00:27,728
us

3319
02:00:27,728 --> 02:00:28,729
toto redistribute some portion of

3320
02:00:28,729 --> 02:00:31,732
the units to sites that we would

3321
02:00:31,732 --> 02:00:34,132
like to allocate. There

3322
02:00:34,735 --> 02:00:36,737
are those limitations in

3323
02:00:36,737 --> 02:00:37,738
the statute about how much to reduce

3324
02:00:37,738 --> 02:00:39,738
the density. As

3325
02:00:40,741 --> 02:00:41,742
the city council agreed upon, staff's

3326
02:00:41,742 --> 02:00:43,710
recommendation

3327
02:00:43,710 --> 02:00:44,711
is to reduce the density of single

3328
02:00:44,711 --> 02:00:46,711
family

3329
02:00:46,713 --> 02:00:48,715
sites affected by sb79 to help preserve

3330
02:00:48,715 --> 02:00:49,716
the character of the single family

3331
02:00:49,716 --> 02:00:50,717
neighborhoods.

3332
02:00:50,717 --> 02:00:51,718
>> that is

3333
02:00:51,718 --> 02:00:52,719
the sentence I want to focus on for

3334
02:00:52,719 --> 02:00:54,719
a moment. To

3335
02:00:55,722 --> 02:00:58,722
preserve the character of the

3336
02:00:58,725 --> 02:01:00,725
neighborhoods.

3337
02:01:01,728 --> 02:01:03,728
those neighborhoods, a

3338
02:01:04,731 --> 02:01:06,731
typical residential

3339
02:01:07,734 --> 02:01:09,734
lot, depending on

3340
02:01:10,737 --> 02:01:13,737
the size could now have

3341
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:16,140
75-foot building and let's

3342
02:01:16,710 --> 02:01:19,710
just pick a random say 20

3343
02:01:19,713 --> 02:01:22,716
units, you know. If it is

3344
02:01:22,716 --> 02:01:26,720
7,000-foot lot. Just say that it is

3345
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:27,721
20 units. Someone living in

3346
02:01:27,721 --> 02:01:29,723
a single family zone could have right

3347
02:01:29,723 --> 02:01:30,724
next to them a

3348
02:01:30,724 --> 02:01:35,729
75-foot building with a bar on the first floor.

3349
02:01:35,729 --> 02:01:37,729
with 20 units.

3350
02:01:38,732 --> 02:01:40,732
the net effect

3351
02:01:41,735 --> 02:01:42,736
of the alternative is that the

3352
02:01:42,736 --> 02:01:44,738
same house would have next to them

3353
02:01:44,738 --> 02:01:46,738
a

3354
02:01:47,741 --> 02:01:50,141
75-foot building with a

3355
02:01:50,711 --> 02:01:53,714
bar on the first floor with nine

3356
02:01:53,714 --> 02:01:54,715
units. That is

3357
02:01:54,715 --> 02:01:56,717
the benefit we are talking about.

3358
02:01:56,717 --> 02:01:58,719
>> yes. It is reducing

3359
02:01:58,719 --> 02:01:59,720
the density as much as possible.

3360
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:00,721
>>

3361
02:02:00,721 --> 02:02:02,723
the height will be

3362
02:02:02,723 --> 02:02:04,723
75, 73. The height

3363
02:02:04,725 --> 02:02:05,726
will be 70 something feet. The density

3364
02:02:05,726 --> 02:02:07,726
still will

3365
02:02:08,729 --> 02:02:11,129
be 60 units per acre.

3366
02:02:11,732 --> 02:02:14,735
on a lot say around 7,000-foot

3367
02:02:14,735 --> 02:02:16,737
lot would be about ten units.

3368
02:02:16,737 --> 02:02:21,537
there could be commercial on the first floor.

3369
02:02:23,710 --> 02:02:25,710
I

3370
02:02:26,713 --> 02:02:28,713
guess

3371
02:02:29,716 --> 02:02:30,717
that I am surprised there

3372
02:02:30,717 --> 02:02:32,719
are not more residents that did not

3373
02:02:32,719 --> 02:02:34,721
speak. I am curious

3374
02:02:34,721 --> 02:02:35,722
what had the typical resident would

3375
02:02:35,722 --> 02:02:36,723
feel the value is

3376
02:02:36,723 --> 02:02:38,725
if they are already going to have

3377
02:02:38,725 --> 02:02:40,725
a

3378
02:02:41,728 --> 02:02:43,728
70-foot building

3379
02:02:44,731 --> 02:02:46,731
next to them.

3380
02:02:47,734 --> 02:02:49,734
how much

3381
02:02:49,736 --> 02:02:53,740
value is it that the vehicle has 10

3382
02:02:53,740 --> 02:02:56,140
units instead of 20 units.

3383
02:02:56,710 --> 02:02:57,711
that is the crux of the

3384
02:02:57,711 --> 02:02:59,713
alternative plans. The assumption

3385
02:02:59,713 --> 02:03:01,713
that it creates

3386
02:03:01,715 --> 02:03:02,716
enough value in terms of the character

3387
02:03:02,716 --> 02:03:03,717
of the

3388
02:03:03,717 --> 02:03:05,719
residential neighborhood that will

3389
02:03:05,719 --> 02:03:07,719
still have 75-

3390
02:03:08,722 --> 02:03:10,722
foot buildings.

3391
02:03:10,724 --> 02:03:11,725
still could have commercial and retail

3392
02:03:11,725 --> 02:03:13,725
on the

3393
02:03:14,728 --> 02:03:15,729
first floor in the middle

3394
02:03:15,729 --> 02:03:19,929
of rodeo drive or anything like that.

3395
02:03:20,734 --> 02:03:23,134
the only difference is

3396
02:03:23,737 --> 02:03:26,137
that instead of the

3397
02:03:26,740 --> 02:03:29,140
same physical building having

3398
02:03:29,743 --> 02:03:32,713
20 units it might have ten. You

3399
02:03:32,713 --> 02:03:34,713
know. I am

3400
02:03:35,716 --> 02:03:37,716
having a little

3401
02:03:38,719 --> 02:03:40,719
trouble ascribing a

3402
02:03:40,721 --> 02:03:41,722
lot of value to how that is really

3403
02:03:41,722 --> 02:03:42,723
going to

3404
02:03:42,723 --> 02:03:44,725
improve the character of the neighborhood

3405
02:03:44,725 --> 02:03:46,727
when all of the

3406
02:03:46,727 --> 02:03:47,728
buildings are built to seven stories

3407
02:03:47,728 --> 02:03:49,728
and have

3408
02:03:50,731 --> 02:03:52,731
less density.

3409
02:03:56,737 --> 02:03:59,137
I know that is

3410
02:03:59,740 --> 02:04:01,740
not a question.

3411
02:04:02,743 --> 02:04:05,712
but I guess thethe is

3412
02:04:05,712 --> 02:04:08,715
that is really what we are talking

3413
02:04:08,715 --> 02:04:09,716
about. The only change we are allowed

3414
02:04:09,716 --> 02:04:11,716
to

3415
02:04:11,718 --> 02:04:13,718
make is reducing

3416
02:04:14,721 --> 02:04:16,721
the density

3417
02:04:17,724 --> 02:04:19,724
from 120 units perper

3418
02:04:19,726 --> 02:04:22,729
to 60 and no other provisions, height,

3419
02:04:22,729 --> 02:04:23,730
use, anything like that changed. Correct?

3420
02:04:23,730 --> 02:04:25,730
there

3421
02:04:25,732 --> 02:04:26,733
are no other changes happening in

3422
02:04:26,733 --> 02:04:28,733
the export

3423
02:04:29,736 --> 02:04:30,737
areas?

3424
02:04:30,737 --> 02:04:32,737
>> one change. >> 3. 5

3425
02:04:32,739 --> 02:04:33,740
to 2.5.

3426
02:04:33,740 --> 02:04:34,741
>> a slight

3427
02:04:34,741 --> 02:04:35,742
reduction, yes.

3428
02:04:35,742 --> 02:04:36,743
>> but the height

3429
02:04:36,743 --> 02:04:38,712
can still

3430
02:04:38,712 --> 02:04:41,715
be --with the density and the

3431
02:04:41,715 --> 02:04:44,718
f.a.r. , there might be fewer bigger

3432
02:04:44,718 --> 02:04:47,118
units but the same

3433
02:04:47,721 --> 02:04:49,721
physical massing

3434
02:04:49,723 --> 02:04:50,724
and same potential for retail on the

3435
02:04:50,724 --> 02:04:52,724
first floor?

3436
02:04:58,732 --> 02:04:59,733
if we ever go over 35,000 in population

3437
02:04:59,733 --> 02:05:02,733
will there be an opportunity

3438
02:05:02,736 --> 02:05:03,737
to provide a new alternative plan

3439
02:05:03,737 --> 02:05:05,737
since

3440
02:05:05,739 --> 02:05:06,740
it now affects a half mile instead

3441
02:05:06,740 --> 02:05:07,741
of a

3442
02:05:07,741 --> 02:05:08,742
quarter mile?

3443
02:05:08,742 --> 02:05:09,743
>> I would defer the

3444
02:05:09,743 --> 02:05:11,712
question

3445
02:05:11,712 --> 02:05:13,712
to the city

3446
02:05:14,715 --> 02:05:16,715
attorney.

3447
02:05:23,724 --> 02:05:25,724
I don't

3448
02:05:26,727 --> 02:05:28,727
know. I

3449
02:05:29,730 --> 02:05:31,730
know there is

3450
02:05:31,732 --> 02:05:32,733
expectation there will be clean up

3451
02:05:32,733 --> 02:05:34,733
legislation on this.

3452
02:05:34,735 --> 02:05:35,736
at this point right now it does not

3453
02:05:35,736 --> 02:05:37,736
apply to the

3454
02:05:38,739 --> 02:05:39,740
city of beverley

3455
02:05:39,740 --> 02:05:40,741
hills beyond a quarter mile.

3456
02:05:40,741 --> 02:05:41,742
>> we

3457
02:05:41,742 --> 02:05:43,742
are currently at 33,000?

3458
02:05:44,711 --> 02:05:46,711
>> 32,000. >> 32,000.

3459
02:05:46,713 --> 02:05:47,714
we are potentially providing an alternative

3460
02:05:47,714 --> 02:05:49,714
plan that

3461
02:05:50,717 --> 02:05:53,720
will be in place for a long time,

3462
02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:54,721
based on an assumption that all of

3463
02:05:54,721 --> 02:05:56,721
the

3464
02:05:56,723 --> 02:05:57,724
export sites are focused on a quarter

3465
02:05:57,724 --> 02:05:59,724
mile

3466
02:05:59,726 --> 02:06:02,729
radius, and all of the impacts of

3467
02:06:02,729 --> 02:06:05,732
sb79 are in a quarter mile radius.

3468
02:06:05,732 --> 02:06:08,132
five years from now

3469
02:06:08,735 --> 02:06:10,737
we go over 35,000 all of a

3470
02:06:10,737 --> 02:06:11,738
sudden a whole bunch, like on this

3471
02:06:11,738 --> 02:06:13,738
map, all

3472
02:06:13,740 --> 02:06:14,741
of those things in yellow now are --

3473
02:06:14,741 --> 02:06:16,741
excuse me,

3474
02:06:17,711 --> 02:06:20,714
yes. In yellow. The yellow dots.

3475
02:06:20,714 --> 02:06:21,715
they are now suddenly up zoned to

3476
02:06:21,715 --> 02:06:22,716
120

3477
02:06:22,716 --> 02:06:28,116
units per acre because we crossed the threshold to 35,000.

3478
02:06:29,723 --> 02:06:31,723
no opportunity to

3479
02:06:32,726 --> 02:06:35,729
now revisit that and now we will have a

3480
02:06:35,729 --> 02:06:38,729
situation where we have 60 units

3481
02:06:38,732 --> 02:06:39,733
per acre in a quarter mile radius

3482
02:06:39,733 --> 02:06:41,733
and

3483
02:06:41,735 --> 02:06:42,736
back to 120 and no opportunity then

3484
02:06:42,736 --> 02:06:44,736
potentially

3485
02:06:44,738 --> 02:06:47,138
to sort of re

3486
02:06:47,741 --> 02:06:49,741
configure?

3487
02:06:50,711 --> 02:06:53,711
>> potentially. The quarter to the

3488
02:06:53,714 --> 02:06:55,714
half mile

3489
02:06:56,717 --> 02:06:58,717
radius I

3490
02:06:59,720 --> 02:07:02,120
think it is a 100

3491
02:07:02,723 --> 02:07:04,723
per dwelling acre

3492
02:07:05,726 --> 02:07:07,726
density.

3493
02:07:11,732 --> 02:07:13,732
that would be

3494
02:07:14,735 --> 02:07:16,735
in the quarter

3495
02:07:17,738 --> 02:07:19,738
mile radius.

3496
02:07:20,741 --> 02:07:22,741
that creates an

3497
02:07:23,710 --> 02:07:26,110
odd situation, as all

3498
02:07:26,713 --> 02:07:28,713
of this does.

3499
02:07:41,728 --> 02:07:43,728
>> can I

3500
02:07:44,731 --> 02:07:45,732
ask a question?

3501
02:07:45,732 --> 02:07:47,732
>> please.

3502
02:07:47,734 --> 02:07:50,737
I think I am done with my

3503
02:07:50,737 --> 02:07:52,737
questions.

3504
02:07:53,740 --> 02:07:56,743
I have a question that I want to

3505
02:07:56,743 --> 02:07:59,713
incorporate the word export and

3506
02:07:59,713 --> 02:08:01,713
default.

3507
02:08:09,723 --> 02:08:11,723
what is the

3508
02:08:11,725 --> 02:08:15,729
sb79 default as it relates to the

3509
02:08:15,729 --> 02:08:16,730
quarter mile? Does it means the

3510
02:08:16,730 --> 02:08:18,732
up zoning will be limited to within

3511
02:08:18,732 --> 02:08:20,734
a quarter mile of

3512
02:08:20,734 --> 02:08:21,735
the transit stops?

3513
02:08:21,735 --> 02:08:22,736
>> yes. >> that

3514
02:08:22,736 --> 02:08:24,736
is the default?

3515
02:08:24,738 --> 02:08:26,740
>> yes. >> how is that different

3516
02:08:26,740 --> 02:08:27,741
from scenario 2?

3517
02:08:27,741 --> 02:08:28,742
>> it is really just

3518
02:08:28,742 --> 02:08:30,711
the densities that change. In this

3519
02:08:30,711 --> 02:08:32,711
map it shows

3520
02:08:33,714 --> 02:08:35,716
the base default sb79

3521
02:08:35,716 --> 02:08:36,717
density. In that smallest radius,

3522
02:08:36,717 --> 02:08:38,717
the

3523
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:41,720
200-foot radius

3524
02:08:42,723 --> 02:08:44,725
it is a 160 dwelling unit

3525
02:08:44,725 --> 02:08:48,729
per acre density. In the quarter mile

3526
02:08:48,729 --> 02:08:50,729
it is 120.

3527
02:08:51,732 --> 02:08:54,732
>> sb79? >> yes. That is the

3528
02:08:54,735 --> 02:08:55,736
baseline.

3529
02:08:55,736 --> 02:08:56,737
>> that is default? >>

3530
02:08:56,737 --> 02:08:57,738
the biggest difference between the

3531
02:08:57,738 --> 02:08:59,738
base and

3532
02:09:00,741 --> 02:09:03,741
the alternatives is the reducing

3533
02:09:03,744 --> 02:09:05,744
of density in

3534
02:09:06,713 --> 02:09:08,713
the residential

3535
02:09:09,716 --> 02:09:11,716
area in

3536
02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:15,719
t he quarter miles. You

3537
02:09:15,722 --> 02:09:17,724
are taking from one.

3538
02:09:17,724 --> 02:09:18,725
you are taking density from here and

3539
02:09:18,725 --> 02:09:20,725
putting

3540
02:09:20,727 --> 02:09:21,728
it there. Overall density is the same.

3541
02:09:21,728 --> 02:09:23,728
you

3542
02:09:24,731 --> 02:09:27,131
are reconfiguring where you

3543
02:09:27,734 --> 02:09:29,734
are putting the

3544
02:09:30,737 --> 02:09:32,739
density. It is the reduction of density

3545
02:09:32,739 --> 02:09:36,339
in the single family neighborhoods within

3546
02:09:36,743 --> 02:09:38,743
a quarter

3547
02:09:39,713 --> 02:09:41,713
mile.

3548
02:09:48,722 --> 02:09:50,722
>> I think that

3549
02:09:51,725 --> 02:09:53,725
is the question.

3550
02:09:53,727 --> 02:09:57,327
what is the difference between the

3551
02:09:57,731 --> 02:09:59,731
sb79 default and

3552
02:10:00,734 --> 02:10:02,734
scenario 2.

3553
02:10:05,739 --> 02:10:06,740
limiting density to a quarter mile

3554
02:10:06,740 --> 02:10:08,740
from the transitd.

3555
02:10:09,743 --> 02:10:11,743
>>

3556
02:10:12,713 --> 02:10:14,713
yes. You

3557
02:10:15,716 --> 02:10:18,719
are going to see area b are

3558
02:10:18,719 --> 02:10:21,119
the single family export

3559
02:10:21,722 --> 02:10:23,722
sites.

3560
02:10:42,743 --> 02:10:44,743
you

3561
02:10:45,712 --> 02:10:47,712
can the

3562
02:10:47,714 --> 02:10:48,715
teal sites are the single family export

3563
02:10:48,715 --> 02:10:50,715
sites.

3564
02:10:51,718 --> 02:10:54,118
they have been reduced 120

3565
02:10:54,721 --> 02:10:57,721
dwelling units per acre to

3566
02:10:57,724 --> 02:11:00,727
60. That density, we have moved to

3567
02:11:00,727 --> 02:11:03,730
the pink sites, which are the

3568
02:11:03,730 --> 02:11:06,130
mixed use sites. Those

3569
02:11:06,733 --> 02:11:09,133
densities now range from

3570
02:11:09,736 --> 02:11:11,736
165 to 320 dwelling units

3571
02:11:12,739 --> 02:11:14,739
per acre.

3572
02:11:15,742 --> 02:11:17,742
>> okay.

3573
02:11:24,718 --> 02:11:25,719
green is non-residential.

3574
02:11:25,719 --> 02:11:27,719
>>

3575
02:11:27,721 --> 02:11:30,721
sb79 does apply to commercial

3576
02:11:30,724 --> 02:11:32,724
as well.

3577
02:11:36,730 --> 02:11:39,733
if I am talking to someone

3578
02:11:39,733 --> 02:11:41,733
tonight about

3579
02:11:42,736 --> 02:11:44,736
export. Give us

3580
02:11:45,739 --> 02:11:48,139
a lesson in the

3581
02:11:48,742 --> 02:11:50,742
role of export.

3582
02:11:51,712 --> 02:11:53,712
those are all

3583
02:11:53,714 --> 02:11:57,718
of the sites that would have been

3584
02:11:57,718 --> 02:11:59,718
up zoned.

3585
02:12:00,721 --> 02:12:02,721
we

3586
02:12:03,724 --> 02:12:05,724
are removing up

3587
02:12:06,727 --> 02:12:08,727
to 50% from those

3588
02:12:09,730 --> 02:12:11,730
export sites.

3589
02:12:21,742 --> 02:12:23,742
increasing the

3590
02:12:24,711 --> 02:12:26,711
density relieving

3591
02:12:27,714 --> 02:12:29,714
the density

3592
02:12:30,717 --> 02:12:32,717
from some

3593
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,720
residential and export

3594
02:12:36,723 --> 02:12:38,723
to areas

3595
02:12:39,726 --> 02:12:42,726
where the density will be

3596
02:12:45,732 --> 02:12:47,732
increased.

3597
02:12:51,738 --> 02:12:52,739
I was just trying to

3598
02:12:52,739 --> 02:12:54,741
understand your back and forth with

3599
02:12:54,741 --> 02:12:57,711
her a little bit. I think that

3600
02:12:57,711 --> 02:12:58,712
helps me a lot.

3601
02:12:58,712 --> 02:13:00,712
>> basically, my

3602
02:13:00,714 --> 02:13:03,114
house, currently zoned for

3603
02:13:03,717 --> 02:13:06,117
single family residential under

3604
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:08,720
default

3605
02:13:09,723 --> 02:13:11,723
79

3606
02:13:12,726 --> 02:13:15,726
would be up zoned to 120

3607
02:13:15,729 --> 02:13:18,129
units per acre. Under

3608
02:13:18,732 --> 02:13:19,733
these they would be 60. But the density

3609
02:13:19,733 --> 02:13:21,733
will

3610
02:13:21,735 --> 02:13:24,738
be placed on the mixed use

3611
02:13:24,738 --> 02:13:25,739
overlay zones in those areas. My back

3612
02:13:25,739 --> 02:13:27,739
and

3613
02:13:27,741 --> 02:13:30,711
forth had to do with wondering what

3614
02:13:30,711 --> 02:13:33,714
the true value was of the difference between

3615
02:13:33,714 --> 02:13:36,114
60 units per acre and

3616
02:13:36,717 --> 02:13:38,717
120 units per

3617
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:41,720
acre.

3618
02:13:51,732 --> 02:13:53,732
>> I

3619
02:13:54,735 --> 02:13:57,135
think it is around 5,000

3620
02:13:57,738 --> 02:13:59,738
to 7,000.

3621
02:14:03,744 --> 02:14:06,713
>> what does that mean in

3622
02:14:06,713 --> 02:14:08,713
terms of acreage?

3623
02:14:18,725 --> 02:14:20,725
tenth of an

3624
02:14:21,728 --> 02:14:23,728
acre.

3625
02:14:27,734 --> 02:14:29,734
a little more

3626
02:14:30,737 --> 02:14:31,738
than 10%.

3627
02:14:31,738 --> 02:14:33,738
>> I

3628
02:14:33,740 --> 02:14:36,140
will give you an

3629
02:14:36,743 --> 02:14:39,713
example. My lot is 6 thundershower

3630
02:14:39,713 --> 02:14:41,713
500 square feet.

3631
02:14:42,716 --> 02:14:44,716
that is.

3632
02:14:45,719 --> 02:14:47,719
15 acres.

3633
02:14:48,722 --> 02:14:50,722
under 20

3634
02:14:51,725 --> 02:14:53,725
more than 20.

3635
02:14:58,732 --> 02:14:59,733
when

3636
02:14:59,733 --> 02:15:01,735
they talk about how many units per

3637
02:15:01,735 --> 02:15:02,736
acre?

3638
02:15:02,736 --> 02:15:04,736
>>

3639
02:15:04,738 --> 02:15:06,738
it ranges.

3640
02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:22,120
so, on a parcel

3641
02:15:22,723 --> 02:15:24,723
like we are

3642
02:15:24,725 --> 02:15:25,726
discussing you can have 12 units.

3643
02:15:25,726 --> 02:15:27,726
>> yes.

3644
02:15:28,729 --> 02:15:30,729
I think

3645
02:15:31,732 --> 02:15:33,732
so.

3646
02:15:40,741 --> 02:15:42,741
that is .

3647
02:15:43,744 --> 02:15:45,744
15 acres. Where is

3648
02:15:46,713 --> 02:15:48,713
it. Okay.

3649
02:15:48,715 --> 02:15:49,716
the alternative plan is nine. The

3650
02:15:49,716 --> 02:15:51,716
other

3651
02:15:52,719 --> 02:15:53,720
would be 18.

3652
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:54,721
>> yeah. I think

3653
02:15:54,721 --> 02:15:55,722
most single family properties that

3654
02:15:55,722 --> 02:15:57,724
would be affected it

3655
02:15:57,724 --> 02:16:00,727
would be 20 dwelling units under the

3656
02:16:00,727 --> 02:16:01,728
default density. Under the alternative

3657
02:16:01,728 --> 02:16:03,728
plans it would

3658
02:16:04,731 --> 02:16:06,731
be reduced proportionally.

3659
02:16:10,737 --> 02:16:12,737
>> again, under

3660
02:16:13,740 --> 02:16:16,743
sb79 the default is limited to a

3661
02:16:16,743 --> 02:16:19,713
quarter mile from the transit

3662
02:16:19,713 --> 02:16:20,714
stop.

3663
02:16:20,714 --> 02:16:22,714
>> yes. What ramifications

3664
02:16:22,716 --> 02:16:25,719
are there for a quarter mile

3665
02:16:25,719 --> 02:16:28,722
to a half mile under sb79?

3666
02:16:28,722 --> 02:16:30,722
>> the default densities

3667
02:16:31,725 --> 02:16:33,727
do not apply from the quarter to

3668
02:16:33,727 --> 02:16:34,728
the half mile. We confirmed we would

3669
02:16:34,728 --> 02:16:36,728
be able

3670
02:16:36,730 --> 02:16:39,733
to utilize the half mile radius for

3671
02:16:39,733 --> 02:16:42,133
the alternative plan redistribution.

3672
02:16:43,737 --> 02:16:45,739
the only scenario contemplates

3673
02:16:45,739 --> 02:16:48,742
moving into that area is scenario

3674
02:16:48,742 --> 02:16:49,743
one. We concentrated that along the

3675
02:16:49,743 --> 02:16:51,743
mixed use

3676
02:16:52,713 --> 02:16:55,716
sites. You are going to see

3677
02:16:55,716 --> 02:16:57,716
some along

3678
02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:01,719
wilshire, the station and some

3679
02:17:01,722 --> 02:17:03,722
units along

3680
02:17:04,725 --> 02:17:06,725
robot son.

3681
02:17:10,731 --> 02:17:13,731
>> is that what I am

3682
02:17:13,734 --> 02:17:15,734
looking at?

3683
02:17:16,737 --> 02:17:18,737
>> yes.

3684
02:17:24,711 --> 02:17:25,712
I am ready to take a break.

3685
02:17:25,712 --> 02:17:26,713
>> any

3686
02:17:26,713 --> 02:17:28,713
questions?

3687
02:17:28,715 --> 02:17:30,715
>> I have

3688
02:17:31,718 --> 02:17:33,718
just two.

3689
02:17:34,721 --> 02:17:36,721
>> under the

3690
02:17:37,724 --> 02:17:39,724
--we have been

3691
02:17:40,727 --> 02:17:42,727
addressing the 120 dwelling

3692
02:17:43,730 --> 02:17:45,730
units vs.

3693
02:17:46,733 --> 02:17:48,733
60 it says

3694
02:17:49,736 --> 02:17:52,736
they can go up to 160

3695
02:17:52,739 --> 02:17:54,739
dwelling units.

3696
02:17:55,742 --> 02:17:57,742
that increases

3697
02:17:58,712 --> 02:18:00,712
the

3698
02:18:01,715 --> 02:18:03,715
allocation.

3699
02:18:04,718 --> 02:18:07,118
95 feet instead of the

3700
02:18:07,721 --> 02:18:09,721
75 feet.

3701
02:18:16,730 --> 02:18:18,730
it says

3702
02:18:19,733 --> 02:18:21,733
we can delay

3703
02:18:22,736 --> 02:18:24,736
the implementation.

3704
02:18:25,739 --> 02:18:27,739
can you explain

3705
02:18:28,742 --> 02:18:30,742
how

3706
02:18:31,712 --> 02:18:33,712
that impacts us.

3707
02:18:37,718 --> 02:18:39,718
the state

3708
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:40,721
law says for the zone we would have

3709
02:18:40,721 --> 02:18:42,721
to show

3710
02:18:43,724 --> 02:18:45,724
that 33% of the

3711
02:18:46,727 --> 02:18:49,730
parcels have at least 50% of the

3712
02:18:49,730 --> 02:18:52,130
density allowed under sb79.

3713
02:18:52,733 --> 02:18:54,733
the density

3714
02:18:55,736 --> 02:18:58,136
is 120 dwelling units per

3715
02:18:58,739 --> 02:18:59,740
acre. The mixed use sites meet the

3716
02:18:59,740 --> 02:19:01,740
threshold.

3717
02:19:01,742 --> 02:19:04,711
they have a density of 79.

3718
02:19:04,711 --> 02:19:06,713
2 dwelling units per acre. However,

3719
02:19:06,713 --> 02:19:07,714
it does not meet the threshold of

3720
02:19:07,714 --> 02:19:09,714
33%

3721
02:19:10,717 --> 02:19:13,720
of the parcels. You are going to see

3722
02:19:13,720 --> 02:19:15,720
the

3723
02:19:16,723 --> 02:19:18,723
calculations here.

3724
02:19:19,726 --> 02:19:21,726
it does

3725
02:19:22,729 --> 02:19:24,729
not qualify.

3726
02:19:25,732 --> 02:19:27,732
there are 299

3727
02:19:28,735 --> 02:19:30,735
parcels total.

3728
02:19:34,741 --> 02:19:37,711
we would have to show

3729
02:19:37,711 --> 02:19:39,711
the densities

3730
02:19:40,714 --> 02:19:43,114
of all sites are

3731
02:19:43,717 --> 02:19:45,717
allowing that. We

3732
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,120
do not believe it

3733
02:19:49,723 --> 02:19:51,723
could meet. The

3734
02:19:51,725 --> 02:19:52,726
law allows us to delay for individual

3735
02:19:52,726 --> 02:19:54,726
sites

3736
02:19:55,729 --> 02:19:58,129
that are affected by

3737
02:19:58,732 --> 02:20:01,132
sb79 if they meet

3738
02:20:01,735 --> 02:20:03,735
50% of the

3739
02:20:03,737 --> 02:20:04,738
density. Those would be the mixed

3740
02:20:04,738 --> 02:20:06,738
use

3741
02:20:07,741 --> 02:20:09,741
sites.

3742
02:20:10,744 --> 02:20:12,744
the alternative plans

3743
02:20:13,714 --> 02:20:15,714
wants more

3744
02:20:16,717 --> 02:20:18,717
density.

3745
02:20:22,723 --> 02:20:24,723
>> thank you

3746
02:20:25,726 --> 02:20:27,726
for clarifying

3747
02:20:28,729 --> 02:20:30,729
I'm done.

3748
02:20:31,732 --> 02:20:34,132
>> thank you. Any other

3749
02:20:34,735 --> 02:20:36,735
questions?

3750
02:20:37,738 --> 02:20:39,738
okay.

3751
02:20:43,744 --> 02:20:46,713
okay. With that I will close the

3752
02:20:46,713 --> 02:20:49,716
public hearing and move on to deliberates.

3753
02:20:49,716 --> 02:20:51,716
commissioner ross. Would

3754
02:20:52,719 --> 02:20:53,720
you like to share your thoughts and

3755
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:55,720
deliberations?

3756
02:20:55,722 --> 02:20:57,722
>>

3757
02:20:58,725 --> 02:21:00,725
gladly.

3758
02:21:01,728 --> 02:21:03,730
I would be in favor of the

3759
02:21:03,730 --> 02:21:04,731
default provision or scenario three

3760
02:21:04,731 --> 02:21:07,131
and the third would

3761
02:21:07,734 --> 02:21:09,734
be scenario two.

3762
02:21:10,737 --> 02:21:12,737
probably scenario

3763
02:21:13,740 --> 02:21:15,740
three. In order

3764
02:21:15,742 --> 02:21:16,743
to activate the portion of the city

3765
02:21:16,743 --> 02:21:18,743
which is in

3766
02:21:19,713 --> 02:21:21,715
need of activation. I think that it

3767
02:21:21,715 --> 02:21:22,716
is consistent with the neighborhood.

3768
02:21:22,716 --> 02:21:24,716
you

3769
02:21:25,719 --> 02:21:28,719
know, it is a complement

3770
02:21:28,722 --> 02:21:30,722
of residential

3771
02:21:31,725 --> 02:21:33,725
and

3772
02:21:34,728 --> 02:21:36,728
commercial there.

3773
02:21:37,731 --> 02:21:38,732
it can handle it more than what I am

3774
02:21:38,732 --> 02:21:40,732
going to talk

3775
02:21:40,734 --> 02:21:42,734
about next in

3776
02:21:43,737 --> 02:21:45,737
terms of

3777
02:21:46,740 --> 02:21:48,742
access to the freeways.

3778
02:21:48,742 --> 02:21:50,744
I think the western part of the city

3779
02:21:50,744 --> 02:21:52,713
with all of

3780
02:21:52,713 --> 02:21:53,714
the projects we approved and that

3781
02:21:53,714 --> 02:21:55,714
I voted

3782
02:21:56,717 --> 02:21:58,717
in favor of.

3783
02:22:02,723 --> 02:22:04,723
the friars club

3784
02:22:05,726 --> 02:22:08,729
project. I think if we are going

3785
02:22:08,729 --> 02:22:10,729
to increase the

3786
02:22:14,735 --> 02:22:16,735
density I

3787
02:22:17,738 --> 02:22:20,138
would then vote for

3788
02:22:20,741 --> 02:22:22,741
scenario 3.

3789
02:22:29,716 --> 02:22:31,716
mindful trying

3790
02:22:32,719 --> 02:22:35,119
to minimize the impact

3791
02:22:35,722 --> 02:22:38,122
on single family residential.

3792
02:22:41,728 --> 02:22:42,729
I believe scenario

3793
02:22:42,729 --> 02:22:44,731
3 is the most appropriate and that

3794
02:22:44,731 --> 02:22:46,731
is what I

3795
02:22:47,734 --> 02:22:49,734
would vote for.

3796
02:22:56,743 --> 02:22:58,743
so, I am

3797
02:22:59,713 --> 02:23:01,713
really challenged here.

3798
02:23:02,716 --> 02:23:05,116
I will be completely

3799
02:23:05,719 --> 02:23:07,719
transparent. My

3800
02:23:08,722 --> 02:23:10,722
personal interests

3801
02:23:11,725 --> 02:23:14,725
are completely opposed to what

3802
02:23:14,728 --> 02:23:17,128
the council direction would

3803
02:23:17,731 --> 02:23:19,731
be.

3804
02:23:20,734 --> 02:23:21,735
it isis difficult.

3805
02:23:21,735 --> 02:23:22,736
>>

3806
02:23:22,736 --> 02:23:23,737
I wasn't --

3807
02:23:23,737 --> 02:23:24,738
>> to go ahead with one of

3808
02:23:24,738 --> 02:23:26,738
the

3809
02:23:26,740 --> 02:23:28,740
alternative plans.

3810
02:23:28,742 --> 02:23:29,743
>> they didn't indicate which they

3811
02:23:29,743 --> 02:23:31,712
would

3812
02:23:31,712 --> 02:23:32,713
prefer.

3813
02:23:32,713 --> 02:23:35,716
>> I am just saying the idea

3814
02:23:35,716 --> 02:23:38,716
of doing the export and

3815
02:23:38,719 --> 02:23:40,719
alternative plan.

3816
02:23:40,721 --> 02:23:41,722
it is not consistent with what is

3817
02:23:41,722 --> 02:23:43,722
best for

3818
02:23:44,725 --> 02:23:46,725
me personally.

3819
02:23:47,728 --> 02:23:50,731
but, since my role is as a commissioner, I

3820
02:23:50,731 --> 02:23:52,733
am going to try to put it

3821
02:23:52,733 --> 02:23:53,734
aside and take the council's direction

3822
02:23:53,734 --> 02:23:55,734
to

3823
02:23:55,736 --> 02:23:56,737
heart. I am going to assume that,

3824
02:23:56,737 --> 02:23:58,737
okay,

3825
02:23:58,739 --> 02:24:03,539
we are going to go forward with one

3826
02:24:05,712 --> 02:24:07,712
I

3827
02:24:08,715 --> 02:24:11,715
would support the tent pole

3828
02:24:11,718 --> 02:24:13,718
one, number two.

3829
02:24:17,724 --> 02:24:19,724
my reasons

3830
02:24:29,736 --> 02:24:31,736
as someone

3831
02:24:31,738 --> 02:24:32,739
that has lived in the southeast, when we

3832
02:24:32,739 --> 02:24:34,741
talk about activating the southeast a lot

3833
02:24:34,741 --> 02:24:37,741
is talkingtalking about south robinson

3834
02:24:38,712 --> 02:24:40,712
olympic

3835
02:24:41,715 --> 02:24:44,715
boulevard. This is really not

3836
02:24:44,718 --> 02:24:47,721
going to do anything to activate

3837
02:24:47,721 --> 02:24:49,721
the areas.

3838
02:24:53,727 --> 02:24:55,727
we are trying

3839
02:24:56,730 --> 02:24:59,730
to get more restaurants and

3840
02:24:59,733 --> 02:25:01,733
shops.

3841
02:25:05,739 --> 02:25:08,139
looking more like south

3842
02:25:08,742 --> 02:25:10,742
beverley drive.

3843
02:25:14,715 --> 02:25:17,115
the shopping is there

3844
02:25:17,718 --> 02:25:20,718
was taken over by a

3845
02:25:20,721 --> 02:25:22,721
personal injury lawyer.

3846
02:25:23,724 --> 02:25:25,724
I don't believe

3847
02:25:26,727 --> 02:25:28,727
putting all f

3848
02:25:29,730 --> 02:25:31,730
of

3849
02:25:32,733 --> 02:25:35,133
the density there is

3850
02:25:35,736 --> 02:25:38,739
going to do anything to benefit

3851
02:25:38,739 --> 02:25:40,739
the area.

3852
02:25:44,745 --> 02:25:47,145
I don't think it

3853
02:25:47,714 --> 02:25:49,714
will

3854
02:25:50,717 --> 02:25:53,720
satisfy those issues. When you look

3855
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:55,720
at just planning

3856
02:25:56,723 --> 02:25:59,123
in general, step back.

3857
02:25:59,726 --> 02:26:02,726
one of the things that

3858
02:26:02,729 --> 02:26:04,731
you try to do, you are not going

3859
02:26:04,731 --> 02:26:05,732
to eliminate traffic. We are never

3860
02:26:05,732 --> 02:26:07,732
going to eliminate

3861
02:26:08,735 --> 02:26:09,736
traffic. The way that you help it

3862
02:26:09,736 --> 02:26:10,737
or

3863
02:26:10,737 --> 02:26:11,738
reduce the increase in traffic that

3864
02:26:11,738 --> 02:26:14,738
would come from all of

3865
02:26:14,741 --> 02:26:15,742
the development is that you try to

3866
02:26:15,742 --> 02:26:17,742
limit

3867
02:26:17,744 --> 02:26:20,144
the number of trips.

3868
02:26:20,714 --> 02:26:23,717
some someone does eight trips a week.

3869
02:26:23,717 --> 02:26:24,718
that helps. You try to put density

3870
02:26:24,718 --> 02:26:25,719
where

3871
02:26:25,719 --> 02:26:26,720
people live next to where people shop

3872
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,120
and eat and try

3873
02:26:29,723 --> 02:26:30,724
to reduce the number of trips. We

3874
02:26:30,724 --> 02:26:32,724
already

3875
02:26:32,726 --> 02:26:33,727
have in the area around the rodeo stop

3876
02:26:33,727 --> 02:26:35,727
a

3877
02:26:35,729 --> 02:26:37,729
lot of

3878
02:26:38,732 --> 02:26:40,732
restaurants, retail

3879
02:26:44,738 --> 02:26:46,740
markets. If I said I

3880
02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:47,741
would have to drop density in the

3881
02:26:47,741 --> 02:26:50,741
city, what would be the

3882
02:26:50,744 --> 02:26:52,744
best thing to

3883
02:26:53,714 --> 02:26:55,714
do.

3884
02:26:56,717 --> 02:26:59,717
let's put some of it

3885
02:26:59,720 --> 02:27:01,720
over here.

3886
02:27:02,723 --> 02:27:04,723
you have

3887
02:27:05,726 --> 02:27:07,726
shops,

3888
02:27:08,729 --> 02:27:10,729
markets,

3889
02:27:17,738 --> 02:27:20,138
you will also have

3890
02:27:20,741 --> 02:27:23,741
that opportunity. I would treat

3891
02:27:23,744 --> 02:27:25,744
them evenly.

3892
02:27:29,716 --> 02:27:32,116
in order to maximize

3893
02:27:32,719 --> 02:27:34,719
the units

3894
02:27:35,722 --> 02:27:38,722
next to commercial, retail and

3895
02:27:38,725 --> 02:27:40,725
those.

3896
02:27:41,728 --> 02:27:44,728
I know I am in

3897
02:27:44,731 --> 02:27:46,731
the minority but

3898
02:27:47,734 --> 02:27:50,134
before asking for a

3899
02:27:50,737 --> 02:27:52,737
motion, I

3900
02:27:53,740 --> 02:27:55,740
will

3901
02:27:59,713 --> 02:28:01,713
see if I

3902
02:28:02,716 --> 02:28:03,717
had any effect.

3903
02:28:03,717 --> 02:28:04,718
>> I think the

3904
02:28:04,718 --> 02:28:05,719
area is already so impacted with what

3905
02:28:05,719 --> 02:28:07,719
you described.

3906
02:28:08,722 --> 02:28:11,725
I think it will activate the

3907
02:28:11,725 --> 02:28:13,725
southeast part.

3908
02:28:17,731 --> 02:28:19,731
if you build

3909
02:28:20,734 --> 02:28:21,735
it, increased concentration in that

3910
02:28:21,735 --> 02:28:23,735
area

3911
02:28:23,737 --> 02:28:25,737
the restaurants

3912
02:28:26,740 --> 02:28:29,740
and the bakeries and the

3913
02:28:29,743 --> 02:28:30,744
shopping will follow.

3914
02:28:30,744 --> 02:28:32,713
>> mr.

3915
02:28:32,713 --> 02:28:35,713
chair, I always appreciate your

3916
02:28:35,716 --> 02:28:37,716
comments,

3917
02:28:38,719 --> 02:28:41,722
insights. I have learned so much

3918
02:28:41,722 --> 02:28:43,722
from you.

3919
02:28:44,725 --> 02:28:46,727
however you have not changed my opinion

3920
02:28:46,727 --> 02:28:47,728
on that matter.

3921
02:28:47,728 --> 02:28:48,729
>> with that I will

3922
02:28:48,729 --> 02:28:50,729
accept a

3923
02:28:50,731 --> 02:28:51,732
motion.

3924
02:28:51,732 --> 02:28:54,732
>> chair wolfe, if I might,

3925
02:28:54,735 --> 02:28:55,736
inform the commission of a

3926
02:28:55,736 --> 02:28:57,738
further wrinkle. That is under the

3927
02:28:57,738 --> 02:28:59,740
government code with respect

3928
02:28:59,740 --> 02:29:00,741
to planning and zoning and general

3929
02:29:00,741 --> 02:29:02,741
plan

3930
02:29:02,743 --> 02:29:04,745
amendments, the planning commission

3931
02:29:04,745 --> 02:29:08,345
in order to forward a recommendation

3932
02:29:09,716 --> 02:29:11,716
to the

3933
02:29:12,719 --> 02:29:14,719
council

3934
02:29:15,722 --> 02:29:18,122
requires a majority of

3935
02:29:18,725 --> 02:29:21,125
the full body. Two

3936
02:29:21,728 --> 02:29:23,728
votes for any

3937
02:29:24,731 --> 02:29:26,731
particular

3938
02:29:27,734 --> 02:29:29,734
amendment would not

3939
02:29:30,737 --> 02:29:32,737
be sufficient.

3940
02:29:33,740 --> 02:29:35,742
to the extent that

3941
02:29:35,742 --> 02:29:36,743
there are only two votes for one of

3942
02:29:36,743 --> 02:29:38,743
the

3943
02:29:39,713 --> 02:29:41,713
alternatives.

3944
02:29:42,716 --> 02:29:45,116
another option is that

3945
02:29:45,719 --> 02:29:48,119
the commission discuss the

3946
02:29:48,722 --> 02:29:50,722
various

3947
02:29:51,725 --> 02:29:53,725
alternatives.

3948
02:29:54,728 --> 02:29:56,728
does support the

3949
02:29:57,731 --> 02:29:59,731
council proceeding to

3950
02:30:00,734 --> 02:30:02,734
adopt an

3951
02:30:03,737 --> 02:30:05,737
alternative plan.

3952
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:21,722
that would be allowed to move forward.

3953
02:30:21,722 --> 02:30:23,722
>> okay. What

3954
02:30:24,725 --> 02:30:26,725
does that require?

3955
02:30:27,728 --> 02:30:29,728
>> if there

3956
02:30:29,730 --> 02:30:30,731
is interest in that maybe we can take

3957
02:30:30,731 --> 02:30:32,731
a

3958
02:30:32,733 --> 02:30:33,734
couple of minutes to quickly work

3959
02:30:33,734 --> 02:30:34,735
on

3960
02:30:34,735 --> 02:30:36,737
modifications to the resolution and

3961
02:30:36,737 --> 02:30:37,738
come back to you.

3962
02:30:37,738 --> 02:30:39,738
>> we

3963
02:30:39,740 --> 02:30:41,742
need to take a brief recess in order

3964
02:30:41,742 --> 02:30:42,743
to work on that?

3965
02:30:42,743 --> 02:30:43,744
>> if there is interest

3966
02:30:43,744 --> 02:30:44,745
in

3967
02:30:44,745 --> 02:30:45,712
the commission.

3968
02:30:45,712 --> 02:30:46,713
>> certainly sounds

3969
02:30:46,713 --> 02:30:48,713
that way.

3970
02:30:48,715 --> 02:30:50,715
>> sounds like

3971
02:30:51,718 --> 02:30:54,118
our only option. Would

3972
02:30:54,721 --> 02:30:56,723
it reflect that 2 of the

3973
02:30:56,723 --> 02:30:57,724
3 commissioners had a preference and

3974
02:30:57,724 --> 02:30:58,725
one had

3975
02:30:58,725 --> 02:30:59,726
another preference?

3976
02:30:59,726 --> 02:31:00,727
>> certainly could

3977
02:31:00,727 --> 02:31:01,728
do that.

3978
02:31:01,728 --> 02:31:03,728
>> okay.

3979
02:31:03,730 --> 02:31:05,730
>> thank you. >> like

3980
02:31:06,733 --> 02:31:08,733
an advisory.

3981
02:31:09,736 --> 02:31:12,136
in any way it

3982
02:31:12,739 --> 02:31:14,739
is a recommendation.

3983
02:31:14,741 --> 02:31:15,742
because we couldn't get to three it

3984
02:31:15,742 --> 02:31:17,742
is

3985
02:31:18,712 --> 02:31:20,712
two to one.

3986
02:31:33,727 --> 02:31:35,727
the council would

3987
02:31:36,730 --> 02:31:38,730
be informed.

3988
02:31:39,733 --> 02:31:42,133
you know, we can

3989
02:31:42,736 --> 02:31:43,737
memorialize that. But ultimately the

3990
02:31:43,737 --> 02:31:45,737
recommendation is

3991
02:31:45,739 --> 02:31:48,139
not for any of

3992
02:31:48,742 --> 02:31:50,742
particulars.

3993
02:31:51,745 --> 02:31:53,745
>> they would benefit

3994
02:31:54,715 --> 02:31:56,715
from knowing that.

3995
02:31:57,718 --> 02:31:59,718
I

3996
02:32:00,721 --> 02:32:03,721
would hope they would be

3997
02:32:03,724 --> 02:32:04,725
informed about that.

3998
02:32:04,725 --> 02:32:06,725
>> I

3999
02:32:06,727 --> 02:32:09,730
think that we can write it into the

4000
02:32:09,730 --> 02:32:11,730
resolution.

4001
02:32:12,733 --> 02:32:14,733
>> yes.

4002
02:32:21,742 --> 02:32:23,742
because of the

4003
02:32:24,745 --> 02:32:27,145
numbers we can make

4004
02:32:27,714 --> 02:32:28,715
no recommendations.

4005
02:32:28,715 --> 02:32:30,715
>> we need

4006
02:32:30,717 --> 02:32:32,719
to take a brief recess for you

4007
02:32:32,719 --> 02:32:33,720
to work on that?

4008
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:34,721
>> yes. >> okay.

4009
02:32:34,721 --> 02:32:37,121
we are in recess.

4010
02:32:49,536 --> 02:32:51,536
>>> the meeting and

4011
02:32:52,539 --> 02:32:53,540
the discussion of the zone change,

4012
02:32:53,540 --> 02:32:55,542
recommendation. We have been supplied

4013
02:32:55,542 --> 02:32:57,542
an updated

4014
02:32:57,544 --> 02:32:58,545
resolution reflecting the discussion

4015
02:32:58,545 --> 02:33:00,545
we had before

4016
02:33:01,548 --> 02:33:03,548
taking the break.

4017
02:33:04,551 --> 02:33:06,553
at this time we

4018
02:33:06,553 --> 02:33:09,556
will take a few minutes and allow

4019
02:33:09,556 --> 02:33:10,557
the commissioners to briefly read

4020
02:33:10,557 --> 02:33:12,557
the resolution or

4021
02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:14,561
do you want to walk us through

4022
02:33:14,561 --> 02:33:16,563
the major changes here in the red

4023
02:33:16,563 --> 02:33:17,531
lines?

4024
02:33:17,531 --> 02:33:19,533
>> might be best for

4025
02:33:19,533 --> 02:33:21,535
staff to run through the revisions,

4026
02:33:21,535 --> 02:33:22,536
take a look and go from there.

4027
02:33:22,536 --> 02:33:23,537
>>

4028
02:33:23,537 --> 02:33:25,537
the

4029
02:33:25,539 --> 02:33:28,542
first changes that were made are

4030
02:33:28,542 --> 02:33:31,545
to section one, page two of

4031
02:33:31,545 --> 02:33:33,545
the resolution.

4032
02:33:34,548 --> 02:33:37,551
we moved up one of the sentences from

4033
02:33:37,551 --> 02:33:39,551
the bottom to

4034
02:33:40,554 --> 02:33:42,554
the top.

4035
02:33:46,560 --> 02:33:48,560
we

4036
02:33:49,563 --> 02:33:51,563
have added a. 2

4037
02:33:52,533 --> 02:33:55,536
and. 3, the three different maps for

4038
02:33:55,536 --> 02:33:57,536
the different

4039
02:33:58,539 --> 02:34:00,539
scenarios.

4040
02:34:01,542 --> 02:34:03,542
it is scenario

4041
02:34:04,545 --> 02:34:06,545
one, two,

4042
02:34:07,548 --> 02:34:09,948
three in those exhibits.

4043
02:34:10,551 --> 02:34:12,551
the following page,

4044
02:34:13,554 --> 02:34:15,554
page four,

4045
02:34:16,557 --> 02:34:18,557
the

4046
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:21,562
changes memorialized only only

4047
02:34:21,562 --> 02:34:22,563
commissioner supported 3 and one supported 2.

4048
02:34:22,563 --> 02:34:23,564
the planning

4049
02:34:23,564 --> 02:34:25,532
commission's recommendation is not

4050
02:34:25,532 --> 02:34:26,533
for a specific

4051
02:34:26,533 --> 02:34:29,533
scenario, but they are recommending

4052
02:34:31,538 --> 02:34:32,539
the

4053
02:34:32,539 --> 02:34:34,541
adoption of an alternative plan and

4054
02:34:34,541 --> 02:34:37,541
associated amendments to the planned

4055
02:34:37,544 --> 02:34:39,544
land use

4056
02:34:40,547 --> 02:34:42,547
map and

4057
02:34:49,556 --> 02:34:51,556
recommending the council

4058
02:34:52,559 --> 02:34:54,559
adopt an

4059
02:34:55,562 --> 02:34:57,562
ordinance to reflect

4060
02:34:58,532 --> 02:35:00,532
the alternative plan

4061
02:35:01,535 --> 02:35:03,535
scenario.

4062
02:35:07,541 --> 02:35:09,941
one more change to

4063
02:35:10,544 --> 02:35:12,544
section 5.

4064
02:35:12,546 --> 02:35:13,547
updated to the different exhibits

4065
02:35:13,547 --> 02:35:15,547
that

4066
02:35:15,549 --> 02:35:19,149
are attached and the different amendments

4067
02:35:19,553 --> 02:35:21,553
being recommended.

4068
02:35:28,562 --> 02:35:30,564
>> is that because the

4069
02:35:30,564 --> 02:35:31,532
maps were not available?

4070
02:35:31,532 --> 02:35:32,533
>> we were

4071
02:35:32,533 --> 02:35:33,534
originally

4072
02:35:33,534 --> 02:35:36,534
anticipating if the commission selected

4073
02:35:37,538 --> 02:35:40,538
one scenario we would have

4074
02:35:40,541 --> 02:35:42,541
used that one.

4075
02:35:43,544 --> 02:35:45,944
>> you are already anticipating

4076
02:35:46,513 --> 02:35:48,513
updating one.

4077
02:36:49,543 --> 02:36:51,543
any questions from

4078
02:36:52,546 --> 02:36:53,547
the commissioners on the updated resolution?

4079
02:36:53,547 --> 02:36:55,547
have

4080
02:36:55,549 --> 02:36:56,550
you all had a chance to look at it?

4081
02:36:56,550 --> 02:36:57,551
are you

4082
02:36:57,551 --> 02:36:58,552
comfortable with the way that it is

4083
02:36:58,552 --> 02:36:59,553
currently written?

4084
02:36:59,553 --> 02:37:01,553
>>

4085
02:37:01,555 --> 02:37:03,555
yes, I am

4086
02:37:10,564 --> 02:37:11,532
.

4087
02:37:11,532 --> 02:37:13,534
>> I am as well.

4088
02:37:13,534 --> 02:37:15,534
>> with that

4089
02:37:16,537 --> 02:37:18,537
we move it

4090
02:37:18,539 --> 02:37:19,540
to a motion. Okay. I will accept a

4091
02:37:19,540 --> 02:37:21,540
motion.

4092
02:37:22,543 --> 02:37:24,543
>> a motion

4093
02:37:24,545 --> 02:37:25,546
for a resolution of the planning commission

4094
02:37:25,546 --> 02:37:27,546
of the

4095
02:37:28,549 --> 02:37:29,550
city of beverley hills recommending

4096
02:37:29,550 --> 02:37:31,550
the

4097
02:37:31,552 --> 02:37:32,553
city adopt a general plan amendment

4098
02:37:32,553 --> 02:37:34,553
and zone

4099
02:37:34,555 --> 02:37:36,557
change to amend the land use map and

4100
02:37:36,557 --> 02:37:37,558
zoning map and a draft ordinance of

4101
02:37:37,558 --> 02:37:39,558
the city

4102
02:37:40,561 --> 02:37:41,562
of beverley hills amending several

4103
02:37:41,562 --> 02:37:43,562
sections of

4104
02:37:43,564 --> 02:37:45,564
the beverley hills

4105
02:37:46,533 --> 02:37:48,533
municipal code

4106
02:37:49,536 --> 02:37:51,936
for anan alternative plan,

4107
02:37:52,539 --> 02:37:54,539
65912. 61 and

4108
02:37:54,541 --> 02:37:55,542
making a determination of exemption

4109
02:37:55,542 --> 02:37:57,542
under the

4110
02:37:58,545 --> 02:38:00,545
california environmental

4111
02:38:01,548 --> 02:38:04,548
quality act. Amended or as

4112
02:38:04,551 --> 02:38:06,551
set forth in

4113
02:38:07,521 --> 02:38:09,521
the document?

4114
02:38:26,540 --> 02:38:28,540
>>

4115
02:38:28,542 --> 02:38:29,543
one more change that we caught.

4116
02:38:29,543 --> 02:38:30,544
>> it

4117
02:38:30,544 --> 02:38:31,545
would be a

4118
02:38:31,545 --> 02:38:32,546
general plan amendment and zone change

4119
02:38:32,546 --> 02:38:34,946
to amend the land

4120
02:38:35,549 --> 02:38:37,549
use and

4121
02:38:38,552 --> 02:38:41,552
zoning map, and general plan

4122
02:38:41,555 --> 02:38:43,955
amendment to update or

4123
02:38:44,558 --> 02:38:46,558
amend the land

4124
02:38:47,561 --> 02:38:48,562
use.

4125
02:38:48,562 --> 02:38:50,562
>> we would say

4126
02:38:50,564 --> 02:38:51,532
it currently

4127
02:38:51,532 --> 02:38:53,534
says resolution recommending the city

4128
02:38:53,534 --> 02:38:55,534
adopt a

4129
02:38:55,536 --> 02:38:59,540
plan amendment to amend the land use

4130
02:38:59,540 --> 02:39:01,540
map and land

4131
02:39:02,543 --> 02:39:04,543
use element. And

4132
02:39:05,546 --> 02:39:07,546
zoning map.

4133
02:39:17,558 --> 02:39:19,558
>> another

4134
02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:21,562
motion or does he say with the laemt that

4135
02:39:21,562 --> 02:39:22,563
you provided.

4136
02:39:22,563 --> 02:39:23,564
>> that's fine. >> as

4137
02:39:23,564 --> 02:39:24,531
amended.

4138
02:39:24,531 --> 02:39:26,533
>> I will second the motion.

4139
02:39:26,533 --> 02:39:28,533
>> in that

4140
02:39:28,535 --> 02:39:29,536
case, I think karen, it would be appropriate for you

4141
02:39:29,536 --> 02:39:32,536
to call for a vote.

4142
02:39:32,539 --> 02:39:34,539
>> commissioner ross.

4143
02:39:35,542 --> 02:39:37,542
>> yes. >> vice chairman

4144
02:39:37,544 --> 02:39:38,545
milkowski.

4145
02:39:38,545 --> 02:39:39,546
>> yes. >> chair wolfe.

4146
02:39:39,546 --> 02:39:41,546
>> yes.

4147
02:39:44,551 --> 02:39:45,552
no city attorney

4148
02:39:45,552 --> 02:39:46,553
statement on this one.

4149
02:39:46,553 --> 02:39:47,554
>> legislative

4150
02:39:47,554 --> 02:39:49,556
and it will go to

4151
02:39:49,556 --> 02:39:50,557
the city council.

4152
02:39:50,557 --> 02:39:51,558
>> I would invite

4153
02:39:51,558 --> 02:39:52,559
the

4154
02:39:52,559 --> 02:39:53,560
recused commissioner back in the room

4155
02:39:53,560 --> 02:39:55,560
but I have

4156
02:39:55,562 --> 02:39:56,563
a feeling they are not in the vicinity.

4157
02:39:56,563 --> 02:39:58,563
I will

4158
02:39:59,533 --> 02:40:01,533
not do that.

4159
02:40:02,536 --> 02:40:04,536
we move on

4160
02:40:04,538 --> 02:40:05,539
to communications from the commission.

4161
02:40:05,539 --> 02:40:06,540
any communications

4162
02:40:06,540 --> 02:40:07,541
from the commission?

4163
02:40:07,541 --> 02:40:08,542
>> none from

4164
02:40:08,542 --> 02:40:09,543
me.

4165
02:40:09,543 --> 02:40:11,543
>> yes, I

4166
02:40:11,545 --> 02:40:13,545
would just like

4167
02:40:14,548 --> 02:40:15,549
to wish everybody a happy

4168
02:40:15,549 --> 02:40:17,551
holiday, whatever they may celebrate.

4169
02:40:17,551 --> 02:40:19,553
I want to thank

4170
02:40:19,553 --> 02:40:20,554
my fellow commissioners for making

4171
02:40:20,554 --> 02:40:21,555
me a

4172
02:40:21,555 --> 02:40:23,557
better commissioner and send love

4173
02:40:23,557 --> 02:40:25,559
to my wife gloria.

4174
02:40:25,559 --> 02:40:26,560
>> thank you. >> let me add to that

4175
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:27,561
also in

4176
02:40:27,561 --> 02:40:29,563
the spirit of the holidays. Thank

4177
02:40:29,563 --> 02:40:32,533
you to the staff for

4178
02:40:32,533 --> 02:40:34,535
the lovely and delicious and

4179
02:40:34,535 --> 02:40:35,536
thoughtful gift, appreciate it very

4180
02:40:35,536 --> 02:40:37,536
much. I guarantee

4181
02:40:38,539 --> 02:40:39,540
you they will be enjoyed.

4182
02:40:39,540 --> 02:40:40,541
>> I would

4183
02:40:40,541 --> 02:40:41,542
like

4184
02:40:41,542 --> 02:40:43,542
to echo my

4185
02:40:44,545 --> 02:40:46,545
fellow commissioners comment

4186
02:40:46,547 --> 02:40:47,548
s thanking my fellow commissioners

4187
02:40:47,548 --> 02:40:49,548
and staff for

4188
02:40:49,550 --> 02:40:50,551
the work we did this year. It was

4189
02:40:50,551 --> 02:40:52,551
a challenging one.

4190
02:40:53,554 --> 02:40:56,557
we got through it. We were

4191
02:40:56,557 --> 02:40:58,557
able to support

4192
02:40:59,560 --> 02:41:01,960
us extremely well, particularly

4193
02:41:02,563 --> 02:41:04,563
on the item

4194
02:41:05,532 --> 02:41:07,932
today which is very

4195
02:41:08,535 --> 02:41:10,535
complicated.

4196
02:41:11,538 --> 02:41:13,538
the

4197
02:41:13,540 --> 02:41:14,541
beverley hills wellness network. Information can

4198
02:41:14,541 --> 02:41:16,941
be found on the

4199
02:41:17,544 --> 02:41:20,544
website, but in a nutshell

4200
02:41:20,547 --> 02:41:21,548
the beverley hills

4201
02:41:21,548 --> 02:41:23,550
wellness network allows residents

4202
02:41:23,550 --> 02:41:25,550
to pay an

4203
02:41:25,552 --> 02:41:26,553
annual $90 fee in order to cover any

4204
02:41:26,553 --> 02:41:28,553
costs that are

4205
02:41:28,555 --> 02:41:29,556
not covered by the medical insurance

4206
02:41:29,556 --> 02:41:31,556
in

4207
02:41:31,558 --> 02:41:32,559
conjunction with any medical services

4208
02:41:32,559 --> 02:41:33,560
provided

4209
02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:35,562
by calling 9-1-1 emergency services.

4210
02:41:35,562 --> 02:41:37,562
if you

4211
02:41:37,564 --> 02:41:38,532
call 9-1-1 and an ambulance, fire

4212
02:41:38,532 --> 02:41:40,532
department

4213
02:41:40,534 --> 02:41:41,535
comes out, any medical services that

4214
02:41:41,535 --> 02:41:43,535
are provided

4215
02:41:43,537 --> 02:41:44,538
including transport to the hospital

4216
02:41:44,538 --> 02:41:46,538
and what

4217
02:41:46,540 --> 02:41:47,541
not. Anything that is not covered

4218
02:41:47,541 --> 02:41:48,542
by

4219
02:41:48,542 --> 02:41:50,544
your insurance will be covered by

4220
02:41:50,544 --> 02:41:52,544
the city

4221
02:41:53,547 --> 02:41:54,548
if you join

4222
02:41:54,548 --> 02:41:56,550
this program and the cost again is

4223
02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:58,550
$90 a year.

4224
02:41:59,553 --> 02:42:02,553
I was also asked to

4225
02:42:02,556 --> 02:42:04,556
highlight

4226
02:42:05,559 --> 02:42:08,562
the water tracker that is also available

4227
02:42:08,562 --> 02:42:10,562
to all

4228
02:42:11,532 --> 02:42:13,532
residents in

4229
02:42:13,534 --> 02:42:14,535
order to have more information available to

4230
02:42:14,535 --> 02:42:16,535
the

4231
02:42:17,538 --> 02:42:20,538
water use in your home.

4232
02:42:20,541 --> 02:42:22,941
you can find the

4233
02:42:23,544 --> 02:42:26,547
information on the website as well.

4234
02:42:26,547 --> 02:42:28,947
any other commissioner questions?

4235
02:42:29,550 --> 02:42:30,551
>> how do people sign up for the health

4236
02:42:30,551 --> 02:42:31,552
program?

4237
02:42:31,552 --> 02:42:32,553
>> there is a link on the website.

4238
02:42:32,553 --> 02:42:34,553
if you go

4239
02:42:35,556 --> 02:42:38,559
to beverleyhills. Org, on the front

4240
02:42:38,559 --> 02:42:41,559
page of the beverleyhills. Org

4241
02:42:41,562 --> 02:42:43,562
website, and

4242
02:42:44,565 --> 02:42:47,534
if you scroll down --I thought it

4243
02:42:47,534 --> 02:42:48,535
was there.

4244
02:42:48,535 --> 02:42:50,537
>> it is there. >> there

4245
02:42:50,537 --> 02:42:53,540
it is. Under latest news there

4246
02:42:53,540 --> 02:42:55,940
is an icon for

4247
02:42:56,543 --> 02:42:58,543
beverley

4248
02:42:58,545 --> 02:42:59,546
hill welness network.

4249
02:42:59,546 --> 02:43:00,547
>> thank you

4250
02:43:00,547 --> 02:43:02,547
for pointing that

4251
02:43:02,549 --> 02:43:05,552
out. I probably was supposed to say

4252
02:43:05,552 --> 02:43:07,554
that. With that we will move on to anyany

4253
02:43:07,554 --> 02:43:08,555
city planner updates? Do we have a

4254
02:43:08,555 --> 02:43:10,555
city planner?

4255
02:43:11,558 --> 02:43:13,558
>> this will be

4256
02:43:14,561 --> 02:43:16,561
my last official

4257
02:43:17,564 --> 02:43:18,532
comments as the acting planner. I

4258
02:43:18,532 --> 02:43:19,533
am happy to

4259
02:43:19,533 --> 02:43:20,534
announce that cindy gordon has been

4260
02:43:20,534 --> 02:43:22,534
appointed

4261
02:43:23,537 --> 02:43:25,937
as the next assistant

4262
02:43:26,540 --> 02:43:28,540
director of community

4263
02:43:28,542 --> 02:43:29,543
development/city planner and assumes

4264
02:43:29,543 --> 02:43:31,943
her new duties on

4265
02:43:32,546 --> 02:43:33,547
monday and will be taking over city

4266
02:43:33,547 --> 02:43:35,547
planner

4267
02:43:35,549 --> 02:43:37,949
comments from now on.

4268
02:43:38,552 --> 02:43:40,552
>> congratulations.

4269
02:43:41,555 --> 02:43:44,555
>> I wanted to introduce or

4270
02:43:44,558 --> 02:43:46,958
reintroduce. I think andres

4271
02:43:47,561 --> 02:43:49,961
was introduced to the

4272
02:43:50,564 --> 02:43:51,532
commission but this is his first item

4273
02:43:51,532 --> 02:43:52,533
under

4274
02:43:52,533 --> 02:43:53,534
the commission. I wanted to point

4275
02:43:53,534 --> 02:43:55,934
out that he is

4276
02:43:56,537 --> 02:43:59,540
the brains behind all of the

4277
02:43:59,540 --> 02:44:01,540
sb79.

4278
02:44:08,549 --> 02:44:09,550
he was leading the charge on that.

4279
02:44:09,550 --> 02:44:10,551
he

4280
02:44:10,551 --> 02:44:11,552
did excellent work on the project.

4281
02:44:11,552 --> 02:44:14,552
I am sure you will

4282
02:44:14,555 --> 02:44:17,558
be seeing much more of him

4283
02:44:17,558 --> 02:44:19,558
going forward.

4284
02:44:20,561 --> 02:44:22,561
this will

4285
02:44:22,563 --> 02:44:23,564
be the commission's final meeting

4286
02:44:23,564 --> 02:44:25,564
of 2025. I

4287
02:44:26,533 --> 02:44:27,534
wanted to echo what the chair said.

4288
02:44:27,534 --> 02:44:29,534
it was

4289
02:44:29,536 --> 02:44:30,537
a very difficult year for the commission with

4290
02:44:30,537 --> 02:44:32,537
the

4291
02:44:32,539 --> 02:44:33,540
builders remedy projects and sb79.

4292
02:44:33,540 --> 02:44:35,540
I

4293
02:44:35,542 --> 02:44:36,543
think that we had six meetings in

4294
02:44:36,543 --> 02:44:38,543
the month

4295
02:44:38,545 --> 02:44:41,548
of october. I wasn't at all of them,

4296
02:44:41,548 --> 02:44:43,548
but you did.

4297
02:44:45,552 --> 02:44:46,553
I wanted

4298
02:44:46,553 --> 02:44:48,555
to thank the commission for the work

4299
02:44:48,555 --> 02:44:49,556
you did andand

4300
02:44:49,556 --> 02:44:50,557
understanding and patience with staff

4301
02:44:50,557 --> 02:44:51,558
as we worked through the process with

4302
02:44:51,558 --> 02:44:53,558
you.

4303
02:44:53,560 --> 02:44:54,561
thank you very much for all of your

4304
02:44:54,561 --> 02:44:56,561
efforts this year.

4305
02:44:56,563 --> 02:44:59,533
hopefully we will try to make 2026

4306
02:44:59,533 --> 02:45:00,534
easier on you. I wanted to wish you

4307
02:45:00,534 --> 02:45:01,535
all

4308
02:45:01,535 --> 02:45:03,537
happy holidays, new year and see you

4309
02:45:03,537 --> 02:45:05,937
in the new year.

4310
02:45:06,540 --> 02:45:08,540
>> thank you.

4311
02:45:09,543 --> 02:45:12,543
any questions on the current

4312
02:45:12,546 --> 02:45:14,546
development projects list?

4313
02:45:14,548 --> 02:45:18,148
seeing none. Any questions or comments

4314
02:45:18,552 --> 02:45:20,552
on the

4315
02:45:21,555 --> 02:45:23,555
2026 meeting schedule?

4316
02:45:24,558 --> 02:45:26,558
any other business?

4317
02:45:27,528 --> 02:45:29,928
we are officially adjourned.