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Today is wednesday, october 30. This is the

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social services ad hoc committee.

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we are a couple minutes late. We just had a

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fire alarm, luckily a false fire alarm.

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we have our fantastic fire chief here joining us.

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so

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we are ready to start the

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meeting. To be have public comments?

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>> no public comments. >> great. So we will be

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discussing the community assistance grant funding

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current and future needs and

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recommend changes. Me we have a report,

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please?

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>> yes, tbyte. I will kick

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it

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off briefly. We have been working over the last

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year or so

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and looking at our community assistance

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grant

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fund program, as

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well as social services

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in general. Things have really changed

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over the past few years, particularly

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related to social services. The council

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has

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committed millions of dollars to a

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number of social services

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program such as housing, homeless programs

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for those that are disadvantaged,

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and as a result we

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have been working on reconfiguring our community assistance

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grant fund program.

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we made changes for this current fy

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we are here today to talk about further

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possible changes to make in light

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of the programs and resources that

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the council has set

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aside in other parts of our budget.

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with that I will hand it over to

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>> no. For. >> thank you.

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good afternoon

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. We were in front of you in june

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of this year. We were seeking

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authority to approve the 2024-2025

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cagf

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slate of recommended grants. At

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that time we talked about making

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some changes for this year's

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process. Yourself and full council

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approved the changes in late

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june. To just review where that took us,

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and

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you can also follow along with attachments a or b

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in your packet.

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so, at the start of

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this year we were recommending bifurcating the

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cagf

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process into two different

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categories, one being the traditional

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grant

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and the other being a contracted

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critical service provider set up.

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the chart here

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lists all of the 2024-25

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cagf grants.

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there were 23 organizations

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funded in the amount of 1.1 million. We also recommended

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converting five of the grantees into a critical

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service provider agreement in which

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we would contract with them for the

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same

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amount as the previous cagf award,

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but it would be for as needed

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based on services rendered. They would

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invoice after the service was rendered,

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only for what they actually produced

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or

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performed. The amount is 1.292 million.

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if we look at the bottom chart

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here, the total combined traditional

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coupled with the

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critical service agreements for these five organizations

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brings us to a total of

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$2,406,144

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for the current fiscal year.

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recognizing as the city manager said

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that there are

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changes in the community currently and will

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king

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at the future and participating

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additional changes, we would like

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to really make this

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program more reflective of the

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needs of the community.

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is the city manager mentioned we have invested

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a great deal of funding, the council has approved

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over $3 million

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in homeless specific

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funds

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directly. It can be broken down through

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looking at the step

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up on second agreement,

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there is a software system, the apricot

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system,

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we have the

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p.a.t.h. Shelter beds at 138,000,

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providing five beds

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every day of the year. We also have

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partners such as the all saints episcopal

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church, they assist with the home

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again program.

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there is safe parking l.a.,

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and our new partner healthcare in action.

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I do want to note that in terms

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of services to the un-housed,

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a result of looking at all of the

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different service providers, we have

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to find a more cost-effective way of

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dividing the same level of service

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to how it relates to the unhoused

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hotline,

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as well as the ability to transport

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person to a motel in the middle of

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the night, should they request such

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assistance. Working with the

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police departments current

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providers for supplemental services, that company covers

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six, they

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have agreed to take on this

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service at no additional cost. Effective

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this past monday, the 28th, we were there

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and able to end our

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relationship with nass tech

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, they were providing the service

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in a customized package,

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in an amount that the city should

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be able

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to realize in future savings is $930,000.

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and by eliminating that

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$930,000, that does reduce the total

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annual spending on

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unhoused services, to 2.1 million.

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now, also looking forward to the future,

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there were other needs that

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come up that both the community service

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department and human services division have

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identified. Some have been providing

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behavioral

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services to some of the youth

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in the populations that

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we serve in our school programs. Such as

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the afterschool adventure camp.

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that is just one example of how

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some of these funds could be repurposed.

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or they could be

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used for future needs. It is also our understanding

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that we are looking at

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various departments looking for additional

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ways that the

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city can reduce expenses. And one proposal that

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we have is additional changes to

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the grant process. Actually

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placing the grant

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process on hiatus for the 2025-26

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year, which is the fiscal

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year that would start

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july, 2025. And we are looking for the specific 12

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not momentarily, putting these

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organizations on hiatus.

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doing that would provide

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savings of approximately $370,000.

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the last item that you see on

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the bottom of the chart is the westside

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food bank. I indicated that there

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recommended savings of $200,000.

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their current agreement is for $250,000.

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we are recommending

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still awarding $50,000 contract,

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that would help provide,

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as well as just regional food

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pantry support, direct deliveries

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to our housing program for the formally

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unhoused.

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we set that up at the beginning of

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this year and they

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are receiving weekly deliveries.

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um, what we

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are also recommending is

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to create a new category called community service

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providers. Much like the critical

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service

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providers, they would be not to exceed

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a mount with services

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paid for as they are rendered. And

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we took a look

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at 11 of our current

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cagf organizations. We

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identified some of these that could

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be

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important to have for the community,

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but we are not sure if

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it is needed to be

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funded at this full amount or if it

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would be more appropriate to be

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funded based on invoices

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submitted for work performed. Another

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concern that comes up regularly with

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cagf ad hoc of both

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the council members, as well as human

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relations commission and charitable

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solicitations

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commission, is, are we certain that

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beverly hills residents exclusively

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are receiving this financial and if

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it through these grants?

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in some of these organizations that

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we are recommending placing on

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hiatus, it is hard to quantify because

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they do serve the region.

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whereas, some that

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community service providers, we know

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their services are more concentrated

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to beverly hills but not quite at

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the critical service provider, which

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would be this group.

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if we were to

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discontinue funding this group of

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riders, we would

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see detrimental impacts in the community.

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conclusion what we are recommending

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contracting with the 11

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groups at a cost of

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$535,000, continuing to

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contract with the five critical service

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providers at

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$1.2 million, for a total of $1.8 million. By

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leasing the 12 organizations on hiatus,

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that would generate a savings

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of about $578,000. So

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this is the recommendation before

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you. We are here to

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answer questions you may have.

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great, thank you so much. Councilmember?

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please go ahead.

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extreme to put them all on

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hiatus. I think we need to,

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I mean some seem obvious. But I do

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believe others do provide

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services

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for the residents. I am wondering on what

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is the recommendation being made.

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>> this recommendation is being made

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based on us looking at the quarterly

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from the previous fiscal year end

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identifying the services that were

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rendered to beverly

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hills residents in particular. Or

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if the

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contract or agreement was

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effective, generally speaking. The affordable

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living for the aging,

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they enrolled 63 new participants.

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they did 13 home visits, and

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870 email inquiries

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that they fielded.

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but the number of beverly hills residents

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in that group

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was only 10.

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another organization we could look at

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tower cancer.

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let me pull up my data on that one.

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so approximately 10% of program services

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are utilized by the beverly hills

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community. I think in the report.

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>> 10% of overall services? Because

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$50,000

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is not going to fund

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a lot. I

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mean if they are saying 10% of the

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total volume is beverly hills residents

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and

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they have 10,000 people, that is 1000

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people, a significant amount.

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>> they say 10% of the grant amount

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goes directly to ph eight beverly hills

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residents.

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the other percentage would

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--

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>> I guess what

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I would say is I would contact each

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of them and let them

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know that there would be the hiatus,

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allow them to come to

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us and try to explain that

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they understand that this is to serve our residents.

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and why

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either they accept it, or why we should reconsider.

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I would say, you know, because knowing

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that we

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expect that if we are providing x

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amount of dollars and only

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10% of those dollars are being used for our residents,

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that is something that we are not

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going

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to be able to continue to support,

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because

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we have many other needs for our residents.

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>> but how

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would they be able

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to change that? If that is the number

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of residents that are

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coming to the organization.

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>> outreach. Or they just would not contest

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it

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and would say sorry, we are here for everybody. We cannot

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decide who comes to us. We understand. You know, ultimately

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they

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should understand that we are doing this

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, you know,

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there are resources for the county

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and other communities that they can look

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at, but

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we are doing this specifically for

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our residents and there are a lot of

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these. I would just give them the

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chance. I am guessing if

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they cannot back it up or say sorry,

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we don't have a lot of

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beverly hills residents that use our

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services, there is not a great argument

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to

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continue or not put them on hiatus.

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>> part of the reason we are starting

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this process really early, we are

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talking about grants that would take

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place, you know, seven, eight,

355
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nine months from now. It is so that

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we

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get some feedback from the ad hoc and

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we can let the organizations know ahead of time

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before the applications would normally have

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gone out, that we intend to put their grant on

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hiatus.

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we could certainly come up with some

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sort of process where they

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can submit a letter.

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>> or come here

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and

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explain and answer questions. But

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with those savings, shouldn't we

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be looking at reinvesting them in

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services that are

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residents actually take advantage of?

372
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>> yes, I think that is one of

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the things mr. Paulson was talking

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about. We are experiencing,

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maybe director harris can speak to

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some

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of the challenges we are having with

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the afterschool programming. Please.

379
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>> it sounds like, it is not included

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here,

381
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the 900 grand we are saving on nass tech.

382
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that is not included.

383
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>> it is imported

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--important to know

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that that funding was essentially

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one time funding that was taking us through

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december of

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this year. So it is not that it was

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ongoing funding. But it was not

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something that we have to find money

391
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for moving forward.

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>>

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briefly

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speaking to some of the new things

395
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we found, adventure camp program and

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afterschool

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programming, we are servicing about

398
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430 students. Our universal tk program

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has brought in students

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as early as four years old now.

401
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so, really long days. We are

402
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starting to see students who are taking

403
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advantage of our programs until 5:00

404
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p.m. However,

405
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during the school day they have aids

406
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and during the adventure camp

407
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program they do not. Just because

408
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that is not

409
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something that we currently

410
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offer. Ideally we would like to bring

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in

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a partnership and bring somebody on any contractual basis

413
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to be able to provide continuous service to the students

414
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who need support for afterschool care,

415
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so they can successfully

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participate in our programs. That

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is what we were referencing in the

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report on

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some of new needs the community may

420
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have, that

421
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we did not necessarily have previously.

422
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>> to recharge for those fees, to have

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the aides?

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>> currently we

425
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do not have ability to

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provide the aides.

427
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>> but would it be charged for if

428
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we provided

429
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the service?

430
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>> we would have to work

431
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through the risk management and

432
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the a.d.a. Accommodation process.

433
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so there is the possibility of

434
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us to be able to

435
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recoup some cost.

436
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however, based on the a.d.a. Requirements, we would

437
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be able to support them if necessary.

438
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>>

439
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and that was one of my questions, with

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regard to the grant funding. So, this

441
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was

442
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not included in our jpa?

443
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is this part of the agreement we arty

444
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have in place? Or

445
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will this be in addition to that?

446
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>> so, yes and no.

447
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we use the school district

448
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properties for a variety of things

449
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because the jpa, which we pay a

450
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great deal of money for, and then

451
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we use their facilities for our programs,

452
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so

453
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for the afterschool programming for

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example, we use the school sites.

455
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so the children who are on campus

456
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during the day

457
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are currently able to stay, you know,

458
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until their

459
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parents are able to pick them up .

460
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having said

461
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that the programming itself , if you

462
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want to have your child participate in

463
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adventure camp

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after school, the daycare, and

465
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is a service that parents do pay for.

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we are

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in the process of looking at,

468
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making sure the program is at least cost recovery.

469
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and then as far as aides go, afterschool aides,

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I think

471
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that it would depend,

472
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as the director was saying, as to

473
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whether they are needed because

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of an issue, disability issue with the child.

475
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in which case that is something we

476
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are required to provide.

477
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as opposed to having some tk students,

478
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some that are four years old, at the

479
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site for five or six hours

480
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a day and then with us for three additional

481
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hours a day. It is leading

482
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to a new world of some challenges.

483
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those kids are tired.

484
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and they are needing a little bit

485
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more

486
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of staff to student ratio,

487
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lower staff to student ratio.

488
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>> got it, thank you. First of all

489
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I guess starting with controlling

490
00:21:25,252 --> 00:21:26,587
our

491
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cost right now we need to be mindful of our budget.

492
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I think it

493
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is important to go through this exercise

494
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and see where we land with it.

495
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making sure that the services that

496
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are being provided,

497
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that are crucial to our community,

498
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I wholeheartedly support that. I think

499
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it is

500
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important. We don't want to have any

501
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gaps in our service

502
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,

503
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providing our service. And then specifically

504
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caring for beverly hills residents,

505
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I think that

506
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is important. Any of our unhoused

507
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are kind of moving through different

508
00:22:02,256 --> 00:22:07,656
cities and we are providing a very large service

509
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to that.

510
00:22:14,234 --> 00:22:15,235
I guess it depends on how you look

511
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at it. These are taxpayer dollars.

512
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so while I do support giving services

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to as many people as possible, we

514
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do

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need to focus on our own community

516
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as well. So while I'll support our

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unhoused, I also think there are programs in here

518
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that

519
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are wonderful, really great

520
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501(c)(3). But at the end of the day,

521
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or nonprofits, but at the end of the

522
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day we need to also focus on

523
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our own residents and providing the

524
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best level of service for that. I think moving

525
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human

526
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services department to the fire department

527
00:22:45,232 --> 00:22:48,232
has been a wonderful decision

528
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under the chief's leadership. And

529
00:22:51,238 --> 00:22:53,638
christopher getting a promotion,

530
00:22:54,241 --> 00:22:57,244
and we are really excited about

531
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the new level of leadership and everything

532
00:22:58,245 --> 00:23:00,245
you

533
00:23:00,247 --> 00:23:02,647
are doing with that.

534
00:23:06,253 --> 00:23:07,254
and this is part of that. Leadership

535
00:23:07,254 --> 00:23:08,322
is

536
00:23:08,322 --> 00:23:09,289
about making difficult decisions and

537
00:23:09,289 --> 00:23:10,257
moving forward with certain things

538
00:23:10,257 --> 00:23:11,325
that may not always be

539
00:23:11,325 --> 00:23:12,259
easy. I read some info in regard to

540
00:23:12,259 --> 00:23:15,262
p.a.t.h. That was

541
00:23:15,262 --> 00:23:17,262
concerning.

542
00:23:18,232 --> 00:23:21,832
and I want to know if,

543
00:23:24,238 --> 00:23:26,238
what information

544
00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:28,242
we have on that. We are working with

545
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an organization

546
00:23:30,244 --> 00:23:31,245
that --

547
00:23:31,245 --> 00:23:33,245
>> there were a

548
00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:35,249
few articles in the l.a. Times recently about

549
00:23:35,249 --> 00:23:36,250
p.a.t.h. And some of the loan programs

550
00:23:36,250 --> 00:23:38,250
that they have .

551
00:23:39,253 --> 00:23:42,256
as far as I am aware those

552
00:23:42,256 --> 00:23:44,656
issues do not affect

553
00:23:45,259 --> 00:23:46,260
the programs that we have with p.a.t.h...

554
00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:48,260
unless I

555
00:23:48,262 --> 00:23:50,262
am missing something.

556
00:23:50,264 --> 00:23:51,231
oh, I am sorry. It was step up on

557
00:23:51,231 --> 00:23:53,631
second. I apologize. Sorry.

558
00:23:54,234 --> 00:23:58,434
>> yes, that is correct. Nothing, there is

559
00:23:59,239 --> 00:24:00,240
nothing that has impacted beverly

560
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,241
hills or that we have contributed

561
00:24:01,241 --> 00:24:02,309
funds to

562
00:24:02,309 --> 00:24:03,243
that is under scrutiny or in question

563
00:24:03,243 --> 00:24:05,243
as it relates

564
00:24:06,246 --> 00:24:09,249
to our relation with step up on second.

565
00:24:09,249 --> 00:24:11,249
>> great.

566
00:24:11,251 --> 00:24:14,254
that was the first thing I wanted to check on.

567
00:24:14,254 --> 00:24:15,255
and a lot of these programs, just

568
00:24:15,255 --> 00:24:18,255
for clarity, are payouts needed.

569
00:24:18,258 --> 00:24:20,258
--

570
00:24:24,264 --> 00:24:25,232
pay as needed. I know we know the

571
00:24:25,232 --> 00:24:26,233
answer to

572
00:24:26,233 --> 00:24:27,267
this and sometimes we just ask for

573
00:24:27,267 --> 00:24:30,237
clarity. [ laughter ] if we budget

574
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$100,000 for a service,

575
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,243
what is that process? Can you walk

576
00:24:36,243 --> 00:24:38,643
us through it, please.

577
00:24:42,249 --> 00:24:44,251
when they are contracted.

578
00:24:44,251 --> 00:24:45,252
>> yes, so if we use the p.a.t.h.

579
00:24:45,252 --> 00:24:47,652
as a perfect example.

580
00:24:48,255 --> 00:24:50,255
it is $130,

581
00:24:51,258 --> 00:24:53,260
and I believe it is about $10 per night per bed.

582
00:24:53,260 --> 00:24:57,264
and we are allowed to reserve five beds.

583
00:24:57,264 --> 00:24:59,264
my math might

584
00:25:02,236 --> 00:25:03,237
be off. In order to guarantee we have

585
00:25:03,237 --> 00:25:05,239
five beds, we have to pay

586
00:25:05,239 --> 00:25:06,240
for the beds whether they are filled

587
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,640
or not. We are

588
00:25:09,243 --> 00:25:12,243
paying 365?5, that comes to about $90,000,

589
00:25:12,246 --> 00:25:15,246
I believe it is actually 90,500.

590
00:25:16,250 --> 00:25:18,650
and then the additional 95

591
00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:21,253
00 is

592
00:25:22,256 --> 00:25:25,256
additional to fund the grant.

593
00:25:28,262 --> 00:25:29,263
this

594
00:25:29,263 --> 00:25:30,264
year they sent the invoice, the report,

595
00:25:30,264 --> 00:25:31,231
they give the actual names of the

596
00:25:31,231 --> 00:25:32,266
unhoused

597
00:25:32,266 --> 00:25:34,234
person. John doe spent 34 nights in

598
00:25:34,234 --> 00:25:35,502
one of the beds. Then the

599
00:25:35,502 --> 00:25:39,239
bed was empty for 15 nights. Then jane doe spent

600
00:25:39,239 --> 00:25:40,240
16 nights in bed number two and it

601
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,241
was

602
00:25:41,241 --> 00:25:44,841
empty for three nights, for example.

603
00:25:46,246 --> 00:25:47,247
they give us the breakdown. And then

604
00:25:47,247 --> 00:25:49,249
of course in that situation we still

605
00:25:49,249 --> 00:25:50,317
have to pay for the bed, even when

606
00:25:50,317 --> 00:25:51,285
not used. So it is always there. That

607
00:25:51,285 --> 00:25:54,885
is what the invoicing looks like.

608
00:25:55,255 --> 00:25:58,255
if we look at the

609
00:26:01,261 --> 00:26:02,296
jewish family services of los

610
00:26:02,296 --> 00:26:03,397
angeles, for example, that is a large

611
00:26:03,397 --> 00:26:05,797
$500,000 agreement. They provide detail

612
00:26:06,233 --> 00:26:09,236
reporting each quarter of the different clients they

613
00:26:09,236 --> 00:26:11,238
serve and what type of service the client received.

614
00:26:11,238 --> 00:26:14,241
and what the service translated to

615
00:26:14,241 --> 00:26:18,441
in hours spent, like labor hours and

616
00:26:21,248 --> 00:26:22,249
what the cost is. For example, social

617
00:26:22,249 --> 00:26:23,250
worker provided

618
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:24,351
10 hours of in-home supportive care

619
00:26:24,351 --> 00:26:28,255
over the past month. That comes out to

620
00:26:28,255 --> 00:26:30,255
$800, for example.

621
00:26:31,258 --> 00:26:34,258
then times however many clients,

622
00:26:34,261 --> 00:26:36,263
they have about 30 to 40

623
00:26:36,263 --> 00:26:37,264
clients currently. In those 30 to

624
00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:38,432
40

625
00:26:38,432 --> 00:26:39,333
clients are receiving a range of services.

626
00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:42,933
some folks are just getting occasional

627
00:26:43,237 --> 00:26:45,237
food gift cards,

628
00:26:45,239 --> 00:26:49,243
and others are receiving two, three, four

629
00:26:49,243 --> 00:26:52,243
days a week of supportive

630
00:26:52,246 --> 00:26:53,313
care, light cleaning, things

631
00:26:53,313 --> 00:26:58,113
like that. It runs the gamut of what

632
00:26:58,252 --> 00:26:59,253
the needs are. And they provide all

633
00:26:59,253 --> 00:27:00,254
the detail for us.

634
00:27:00,254 --> 00:27:01,255
>> thank you. That

635
00:27:01,255 --> 00:27:03,255
helps. [ laughter

636
00:27:04,258 --> 00:27:05,292
] with regard to westside food bank,

637
00:27:05,292 --> 00:27:07,261
I see we are doing the $50,000 contract

638
00:27:07,261 --> 00:27:09,261
to provide

639
00:27:10,264 --> 00:27:12,664
fresh produce and food

640
00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:16,236
once a week to the residents in the city housing programs.

641
00:27:16,236 --> 00:27:19,236
have we asked our local

642
00:27:19,239 --> 00:27:20,407
grocers, for

643
00:27:20,407 --> 00:27:24,607
example beverly hills market, to make that

644
00:27:25,245 --> 00:27:27,245
,

645
00:27:27,247 --> 00:27:28,248
to provide those services? That way

646
00:27:28,248 --> 00:27:29,349
we are

647
00:27:29,349 --> 00:27:33,549
supporting a local business as well as

648
00:27:37,257 --> 00:27:38,325
--it is closer. And for them

649
00:27:38,325 --> 00:27:40,260
to be able to provide those services

650
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:42,260
to our residents.

651
00:27:42,262 --> 00:27:46,233
>> so I think there is two answers to this

652
00:27:46,233 --> 00:27:47,234
question, I

653
00:27:47,234 --> 00:27:48,235
can answer the second part. We have

654
00:27:48,235 --> 00:27:51,835
not started reaching out to local

655
00:27:52,239 --> 00:27:53,240
agencies yet to see about the support.

656
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,374
and

657
00:27:54,374 --> 00:27:55,242
I also just wanted to clarify. Currently

658
00:27:55,242 --> 00:27:57,242
out

659
00:27:57,244 --> 00:27:58,245
of all of the cagf recipients over

660
00:27:58,245 --> 00:28:00,245
the past years,

661
00:28:01,248 --> 00:28:04,251
what we did is these five listed here

662
00:28:04,251 --> 00:28:06,253
were the first rendition of

663
00:28:06,253 --> 00:28:09,253
service based providing three contract.

664
00:28:11,258 --> 00:28:13,260
so the level of invoicing is now coming

665
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:16,263
in and they are paying for services

666
00:28:16,263 --> 00:28:18,663
rendered. Versus the traditional

667
00:28:19,233 --> 00:28:20,334
cagf program, including

668
00:28:20,334 --> 00:28:22,236
westside food bank. We have just been

669
00:28:22,236 --> 00:28:23,303
issuing the funds on a quarterly basis

670
00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:26,903
based on services they are providing.

671
00:28:28,242 --> 00:28:30,244
the goal would be to take

672
00:28:30,244 --> 00:28:31,245
some of these and turn them into a

673
00:28:31,245 --> 00:28:32,246
similar contract like we did with

674
00:28:32,246 --> 00:28:33,380
the

675
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,248
initial five critical service providers.

676
00:28:34,248 --> 00:28:36,248
because they

677
00:28:37,251 --> 00:28:39,253
are not necessarily critical

678
00:28:39,253 --> 00:28:40,254
in the same fashion that we have called

679
00:28:40,254 --> 00:28:41,321
the others, we have

680
00:28:41,321 --> 00:28:44,921
deemed those to be community services

681
00:28:48,262 --> 00:28:49,263
partners. We would be transitioning,

682
00:28:49,263 --> 00:28:50,297
if this is supported, this next

683
00:28:50,297 --> 00:28:52,232
year into the model that you guys

684
00:28:52,232 --> 00:28:55,235
supported earlier this year for the first five.

685
00:28:55,235 --> 00:28:56,270
>> I understood

686
00:28:56,270 --> 00:28:58,238
that, that was clear in the report,

687
00:28:58,238 --> 00:28:59,239
that made sense. Thank you. But going

688
00:28:59,239 --> 00:29:00,307
back

689
00:29:00,307 --> 00:29:04,244
to my question, I think it would be

690
00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:06,246
interesting and nice to be able

691
00:29:06,246 --> 00:29:07,247
to, we want to be able to work together

692
00:29:07,247 --> 00:29:10,247
as a community. It would

693
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:13,253
be a great way to ask our local grocers.

694
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:16,256
I do not know if we have any

695
00:29:16,256 --> 00:29:18,656
besides beverly hills market,

696
00:29:19,259 --> 00:29:24,659
or whole foods, if they would be interested. Pavilion.

697
00:29:28,235 --> 00:29:30,237
>> -->> [ laughter ] I do

698
00:29:30,237 --> 00:29:31,238
not think that we could afford that.

699
00:29:31,238 --> 00:29:33,238
>> $15

700
00:29:34,241 --> 00:29:35,242
avocados that nobody buys.

701
00:29:35,242 --> 00:29:36,376
>> so,

702
00:29:36,376 --> 00:29:40,247
yeah, that way it is a strong partnership

703
00:29:40,247 --> 00:29:41,281
between

704
00:29:41,281 --> 00:29:43,250
our local businesses and supporting

705
00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:46,253
our neighborhoods and the needs of the residents.

706
00:29:46,253 --> 00:29:49,256
>> we would be happy to reach out

707
00:29:49,256 --> 00:29:52,259
and see if they are interested.

708
00:29:52,259 --> 00:29:55,262
>> thank you. There were four charities

709
00:29:55,262 --> 00:29:57,264
that I noticed that were cultural

710
00:29:57,264 --> 00:30:00,264
on the community service providers.

711
00:30:01,235 --> 00:30:03,237
and a few others that

712
00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:07,241
may be would even fall into that.

713
00:30:07,241 --> 00:30:09,241
>>

714
00:30:10,244 --> 00:30:11,245
[ inaudible ]

715
00:30:11,245 --> 00:30:12,246
>> yeah,

716
00:30:12,246 --> 00:30:16,250
so my question is, these are social

717
00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:19,253
services and those are cultural services,

718
00:30:19,253 --> 00:30:21,255
may be more appropriate for

719
00:30:21,255 --> 00:30:24,258
our arts and culture commission to look at.

720
00:30:24,258 --> 00:30:27,858
or something in the arts section.

721
00:30:28,262 --> 00:30:31,231
why are they lumped into social services?

722
00:30:31,231 --> 00:30:34,234
how does that justify? Can you explain that for me?

723
00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:37,234
>> so maybe five years ago

724
00:30:37,237 --> 00:30:39,239
, four years ago, I am

725
00:30:39,239 --> 00:30:40,240
trying to think now. They were embedded

726
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,240
as part

727
00:30:43,243 --> 00:30:46,243
of the cagf program. At

728
00:30:46,246 --> 00:30:48,248
that time this was living

729
00:30:48,248 --> 00:30:52,252
with the human services division within community

730
00:30:52,252 --> 00:30:53,253
services and they incorporated this

731
00:30:53,253 --> 00:30:55,253
as part of

732
00:30:55,255 --> 00:30:57,257
their program. Happy to look at a

733
00:30:57,257 --> 00:31:01,261
process in which we pulled this apart

734
00:31:01,261 --> 00:31:02,262
and do the same sort of thing, take

735
00:31:02,262 --> 00:31:03,363
funding

736
00:31:03,363 --> 00:31:04,264
that has been allocated to this portion of

737
00:31:04,264 --> 00:31:06,264
the cagf

738
00:31:07,234 --> 00:31:09,234
program and make

739
00:31:10,237 --> 00:31:12,239
there be a new application and

740
00:31:12,239 --> 00:31:13,273
vetting process through the arts and

741
00:31:13,273 --> 00:31:14,241
culture commission, if that is the

742
00:31:14,241 --> 00:31:16,241
directive

743
00:31:16,243 --> 00:31:18,643
of the city council.

744
00:31:19,246 --> 00:31:21,248
>> would you be okay with that? Put

745
00:31:21,248 --> 00:31:22,249
your microphone on.

746
00:31:22,249 --> 00:31:23,250
>> there is not

747
00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:25,252
a separate budget for it. You look

748
00:31:25,252 --> 00:31:26,253
at the amounts, it is very small.

749
00:31:26,253 --> 00:31:28,253
I don't know

750
00:31:29,256 --> 00:31:30,257
that we necessarily want

751
00:31:30,257 --> 00:31:32,259
, you know, we may want to vet the

752
00:31:32,259 --> 00:31:34,261
cultural grants through the

753
00:31:34,261 --> 00:31:35,262
arts and culture commission, but I

754
00:31:35,262 --> 00:31:36,396
would not have

755
00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:41,196
them have a separate grant kind of thing.

756
00:31:41,235 --> 00:31:42,336
>> for example, I think

757
00:31:42,336 --> 00:31:46,240
the wallace already has a contract --

758
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,244
>> they get a lot more money than that

759
00:31:50,244 --> 00:31:51,245
from us,

760
00:31:51,245 --> 00:31:52,246
but they need a lot.

761
00:31:52,246 --> 00:31:53,247
>> right, but

762
00:31:53,247 --> 00:31:54,248
I do not know that it is

763
00:31:54,248 --> 00:31:55,282
necessary for them to be here and

764
00:31:55,282 --> 00:31:58,882
there. It is doubling up services

765
00:32:03,257 --> 00:32:05,259
that are already provided. Nancy,

766
00:32:05,259 --> 00:32:06,260
maybe you could speak to that.

767
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:07,261
>> the only other option would be

768
00:32:07,261 --> 00:32:09,263
to give arts and culture a dedicated

769
00:32:09,263 --> 00:32:10,264
budget each year that they then recommend

770
00:32:10,264 --> 00:32:11,231
for cultural institutions. And if

771
00:32:11,231 --> 00:32:12,232
we

772
00:32:12,232 --> 00:32:14,234
did that, you know, I would not have

773
00:32:14,234 --> 00:32:15,302
a problem with that.

774
00:32:15,302 --> 00:32:17,237
but we need to ensure that they have

775
00:32:17,237 --> 00:32:18,438
some funding each year to be

776
00:32:18,438 --> 00:32:22,638
able to share with the cultural institutions.

777
00:32:23,243 --> 00:32:25,643
>> 40 grand or something, maybe.

778
00:32:26,246 --> 00:32:28,246
but I don't

779
00:32:29,249 --> 00:32:31,649
know, whatever the amount

780
00:32:34,254 --> 00:32:35,255
, we can talk about that when we budget. But

781
00:32:35,255 --> 00:32:36,256
I think this

782
00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:37,391
is the time to have the conversation

783
00:32:37,391 --> 00:32:40,991
to just discussed separating them. John?

784
00:32:41,261 --> 00:32:42,362
>> as

785
00:32:42,362 --> 00:32:44,264
long as they have a budget. You know,

786
00:32:44,264 --> 00:32:47,234
it is 85 now for those four,

787
00:32:47,234 --> 00:32:50,237
I would suggest 100 or more. I think culture,

788
00:32:50,237 --> 00:32:53,237
I think these, theater 40 is

789
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,240
so extremely important.

790
00:32:56,243 --> 00:32:58,643
they are so dependent

791
00:32:59,246 --> 00:33:00,247
cagf

792
00:33:00,247 --> 00:33:01,248
no cultural institution makes back

793
00:33:01,248 --> 00:33:02,249
the money through the box office.

794
00:33:02,249 --> 00:33:03,250
it is just

795
00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:04,251
not possible these days.

796
00:33:04,251 --> 00:33:05,285
>> okay.

797
00:33:05,285 --> 00:33:06,253
but don't you think that would be

798
00:33:06,253 --> 00:33:08,253
more

799
00:33:08,255 --> 00:33:09,256
appropriate to have in the

800
00:33:09,256 --> 00:33:10,257
arts and culture commission?

801
00:33:10,257 --> 00:33:11,258
>> sure,

802
00:33:11,258 --> 00:33:13,260
if we could give them a budget.

803
00:33:13,260 --> 00:33:14,461
yes.

804
00:33:14,461 --> 00:33:17,264
>> we can talk about it at the meeting

805
00:33:17,264 --> 00:33:18,298
with some

806
00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:20,234
kind of funds in the next --because

807
00:33:20,234 --> 00:33:21,235
we are discussing budgeting now for

808
00:33:21,235 --> 00:33:22,269
the

809
00:33:22,269 --> 00:33:23,470
next agenda. So those would be our

810
00:33:23,470 --> 00:33:26,240
recommendation, to remove the cultural component's

811
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,241
from here.

812
00:33:27,241 --> 00:33:29,241
>> but replacing them

813
00:33:29,243 --> 00:33:32,243
at the arts and culture

814
00:33:32,246 --> 00:33:33,247
commission with a dedicated budget. Right?

815
00:33:33,247 --> 00:33:35,247
>> yes.

816
00:33:35,249 --> 00:33:36,383
okay,

817
00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:41,783
let me see if I have any other questions.

818
00:33:44,258 --> 00:33:47,258
now, just out of curiosity

819
00:33:47,261 --> 00:33:49,261
, why are we

820
00:33:50,264 --> 00:33:52,264
not

821
00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:55,233
[ pause ]

822
00:33:59,239 --> 00:34:01,239
--

823
00:34:02,242 --> 00:34:04,642
so because we are

824
00:34:05,245 --> 00:34:07,247
contracting some of these major

825
00:34:07,247 --> 00:34:08,248
asks, would it not make more sense

826
00:34:08,248 --> 00:34:10,248
for

827
00:34:11,251 --> 00:34:13,651
some of the larger

828
00:34:14,254 --> 00:34:16,256
grants that we have here to also use

829
00:34:16,256 --> 00:34:19,259
those as a contract to see how it would

830
00:34:19,259 --> 00:34:22,262
work? Or is this temporary? What was the

831
00:34:22,262 --> 00:34:23,263
process to make the decision that

832
00:34:23,263 --> 00:34:25,663
these five would be

833
00:34:26,233 --> 00:34:29,236
contracted, versus the others getting a straight out

834
00:34:29,236 --> 00:34:31,236
grant?

835
00:34:35,242 --> 00:34:37,642
>> so I think, just

836
00:34:38,245 --> 00:34:40,245
to sort of

837
00:34:41,248 --> 00:34:44,248
, I guess take a step

838
00:34:46,253 --> 00:34:47,254
back, so I think where we will end

839
00:34:47,254 --> 00:34:48,288
up, if I understand correctly

840
00:34:48,288 --> 00:34:50,257
with the report today, groups will

841
00:34:50,257 --> 00:34:53,257
either be put on hiatus,

842
00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:56,263
or they will be put on contract.

843
00:34:56,263 --> 00:34:58,232
>> correct. >> we

844
00:34:58,232 --> 00:34:59,233
would not just be saying we think

845
00:34:59,233 --> 00:35:00,234
you are

846
00:35:00,234 --> 00:35:02,236
a valuable organization and we are

847
00:35:02,236 --> 00:35:05,236
going to give you a

848
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,639
check, regardless of whether

849
00:35:08,242 --> 00:35:10,642
you serve our residents

850
00:35:11,245 --> 00:35:12,246
or any of those things. We would be

851
00:35:12,246 --> 00:35:14,246
moving

852
00:35:14,248 --> 00:35:16,250
everyone into a contract --

853
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:17,251
>> that is not clear here. Here it

854
00:35:17,251 --> 00:35:19,253
says on attachment b

855
00:35:19,253 --> 00:35:22,853
that there is 11 items, community service

856
00:35:23,257 --> 00:35:24,291
providers. So we are

857
00:35:24,291 --> 00:35:26,260
putting all of them on contract as

858
00:35:26,260 --> 00:35:30,460
well? You are saying yes or no?

859
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,235
>> yes, that

860
00:35:37,237 --> 00:35:38,372
is what we would be saying. If you

861
00:35:38,372 --> 00:35:39,239
look at attachment b, community service

862
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,274
providers,

863
00:35:40,274 --> 00:35:41,308
minus the cultural ones at this point,

864
00:35:41,308 --> 00:35:42,242
is the recommendation. The remaining

865
00:35:42,242 --> 00:35:43,610
would move over

866
00:35:43,610 --> 00:35:47,247
to mirror the way we started with the critical service

867
00:35:47,247 --> 00:35:48,248
providers. These would

868
00:35:48,248 --> 00:35:50,250
be contractually based agreements

869
00:35:50,250 --> 00:35:55,500
for services rendered is what is paid for.

870
00:35:56,256 --> 00:35:58,258
>> now I will say we are working through

871
00:35:58,258 --> 00:35:59,259
a little bit of what we mean by services

872
00:35:59,259 --> 00:36:01,261
rendered with some organizations.

873
00:36:01,261 --> 00:36:02,262
so we would have to, like the folks

874
00:36:02,262 --> 00:36:04,662
did with the other

875
00:36:05,232 --> 00:36:06,233
organizations, work out what the reporting

876
00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:08,233
would look like

877
00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:10,237
and the invoicing, so that

878
00:36:10,237 --> 00:36:11,238
we know what we are being charged for.

879
00:36:11,238 --> 00:36:13,238
>>

880
00:36:17,244 --> 00:36:18,245
all of these items are going to be contracted.

881
00:36:18,245 --> 00:36:19,246
>>

882
00:36:19,246 --> 00:36:20,247
the five previous. Yes . And the 11

883
00:36:20,247 --> 00:36:22,247
would be contracted.

884
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:28,255
the others would be put on

885
00:36:28,255 --> 00:36:29,256
hiatus.

886
00:36:29,256 --> 00:36:30,257
>> right, correct. So that

887
00:36:30,257 --> 00:36:32,259
is what I was

888
00:36:32,259 --> 00:36:34,261
saying. The hiatus ones, people

889
00:36:34,261 --> 00:36:38,232
are used to getting the same amount each year,

890
00:36:38,232 --> 00:36:40,234
a little bit more

891
00:36:40,234 --> 00:36:41,301
they ask for. And when they don't

892
00:36:41,301 --> 00:36:42,236
they will probably be upset. I think

893
00:36:42,236 --> 00:36:44,236
that

894
00:36:44,238 --> 00:36:46,240
is why they are bringing it to us

895
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:47,241
now. We will be prepared, if they

896
00:36:47,241 --> 00:36:48,408
want to make an argument as to why

897
00:36:48,408 --> 00:36:50,244
they should continue, again understanding

898
00:36:50,244 --> 00:36:53,247
that they all do great work, we are

899
00:36:53,247 --> 00:36:55,647
insisting that it be

900
00:36:56,250 --> 00:36:57,317
tied

901
00:36:57,317 --> 00:36:59,253
to our residents with services. They

902
00:36:59,253 --> 00:37:01,255
will have to then come and explain either

903
00:37:01,255 --> 00:37:02,256
why they already do serve the residents

904
00:37:02,256 --> 00:37:05,259
in the figures do not reflect

905
00:37:05,259 --> 00:37:07,259
it. Or

906
00:37:07,261 --> 00:37:13,233
what they will do to ensure we are getting that

907
00:37:13,233 --> 00:37:14,468
value for life.

908
00:37:14,468 --> 00:37:16,236
>> and this was under which commission?

909
00:37:16,236 --> 00:37:17,237
>> human relations commission. >>

910
00:37:17,237 --> 00:37:19,637
okay. My other thought

911
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,408
is that we have

912
00:37:21,408 --> 00:37:23,243
a commission for charitable contributions

913
00:37:23,243 --> 00:37:25,243
.

914
00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:29,247
with they

915
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:31,285
be able to, would we be

916
00:37:31,285 --> 00:37:36,685
able to put all of this into that box?

917
00:37:37,257 --> 00:37:39,259
and is it a commission or a foundation?

918
00:37:39,259 --> 00:37:41,259
>>

919
00:37:41,261 --> 00:37:42,262
it is a foundation.

920
00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:45,232
>> so not as it is

921
00:37:45,232 --> 00:37:46,266
currently

922
00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:47,234
configured today is the answer. We

923
00:37:47,234 --> 00:37:48,235
are talking about the beverly hills

924
00:37:48,235 --> 00:37:50,635
community charitable foundation. This

925
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:54,241
is essentially a separate arm of the

926
00:37:54,241 --> 00:37:56,241
city, it

927
00:37:57,244 --> 00:37:58,412
is its own 501 c3 with its own

928
00:37:58,412 --> 00:38:01,248
board that can accept donations from whomever.

929
00:38:01,248 --> 00:38:04,848
to benefit city programs. The current

930
00:38:06,253 --> 00:38:07,421
structure of the community

931
00:38:07,421 --> 00:38:09,256
charitable foundation is to take in money.

932
00:38:09,256 --> 00:38:11,256
accept

933
00:38:12,259 --> 00:38:14,259
it.

934
00:38:15,262 --> 00:38:16,263
and then essentially transfer it to

935
00:38:16,263 --> 00:38:20,234
the city. The city then cuts the check.

936
00:38:20,234 --> 00:38:24,434
or the city does the bidding, procurement.

937
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,241
the community charitable foundation

938
00:38:27,241 --> 00:38:28,242
as

939
00:38:28,242 --> 00:38:30,244
of today does not have the ability

940
00:38:30,244 --> 00:38:31,245
to write checks, does not have a treasurer.

941
00:38:31,245 --> 00:38:33,247
I guess it has a treasurer but does

942
00:38:33,247 --> 00:38:36,247
not have --I am sorry.

943
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:39,850
I apologize. As a board. Yes.

944
00:38:42,256 --> 00:38:43,257
>> I am just trying to figure

945
00:38:43,257 --> 00:38:45,259
out ways we can utilize it. I know

946
00:38:45,259 --> 00:38:47,261
that it may not be structured today.

947
00:38:47,261 --> 00:38:48,262
but I think that is also an area that

948
00:38:48,262 --> 00:38:49,396
I would

949
00:38:49,396 --> 00:38:53,233
recommend revisiting or visiting to begin with.

950
00:38:53,233 --> 00:38:57,237
and then see if that portion of it, because it this

951
00:38:57,237 --> 00:38:59,237
point our

952
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,240
charitable commission, where is that right now?

953
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,240
>>

954
00:39:03,243 --> 00:39:04,244
charitable solicitations commission

955
00:39:04,244 --> 00:39:06,246
is the commission that has been in

956
00:39:06,246 --> 00:39:09,246
existence since the 40s. And

957
00:39:09,249 --> 00:39:11,249
they have

958
00:39:11,251 --> 00:39:15,255
a few things that they are responsible for.

959
00:39:15,255 --> 00:39:16,590
but they

960
00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:18,258
sort of vet organizations that are doing fundraising

961
00:39:18,258 --> 00:39:20,258
membership drives and

962
00:39:21,261 --> 00:39:23,261
something else.

963
00:39:24,264 --> 00:39:27,234
how their funding is spent.

964
00:39:27,234 --> 00:39:29,234
at this time

965
00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:32,239
a lot of the information

966
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,243
that was not available in the 1940s,

967
00:39:36,243 --> 00:39:39,246
postwar fundraising, is now available online.

968
00:39:39,246 --> 00:39:41,246
you can find

969
00:39:41,248 --> 00:39:45,252
form 990 on the irs website and such.

970
00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:48,255
not to say we are not concerned

971
00:39:48,255 --> 00:39:50,655
about ensuring the people

972
00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:52,259
who are raising funds in our community

973
00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:53,393
are legitimate

974
00:39:53,393 --> 00:39:54,261
and using the funds for proper purpose.

975
00:39:54,261 --> 00:39:56,661
so we would still

976
00:39:57,264 --> 00:39:58,232
issue

977
00:39:58,232 --> 00:39:59,233
charitable solicitation permits. But

978
00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:00,234
as far as a commission and all of

979
00:40:00,234 --> 00:40:01,535
the overhead

980
00:40:01,535 --> 00:40:06,335
that goes with the commission, overseeing that process,

981
00:40:11,245 --> 00:40:12,246
we will be sunsetting that commission.

982
00:40:12,246 --> 00:40:14,248
>> and this was under

983
00:40:14,248 --> 00:40:15,249
their approval. That is why I am suggesting

984
00:40:15,249 --> 00:40:18,249
that there be some oversights

985
00:40:18,252 --> 00:40:21,255
to make sure that there is

986
00:40:21,255 --> 00:40:23,255
some balance,

987
00:40:24,258 --> 00:40:27,858
that there is some kind of

988
00:40:29,263 --> 00:40:30,264
--instead of a commission there is

989
00:40:30,264 --> 00:40:32,232
also community members

990
00:40:32,232 --> 00:40:37,320
on that committee. To just kind of assist

991
00:40:42,242 --> 00:40:43,243
the community with

992
00:40:43,243 --> 00:40:44,244
the process.

993
00:40:44,244 --> 00:40:45,279
>> okay. We understand

994
00:40:45,279 --> 00:40:47,247
the concept. We are not set up to

995
00:40:47,247 --> 00:40:48,248
do it today but it is something we

996
00:40:48,248 --> 00:40:49,249
can work towards.

997
00:40:49,249 --> 00:40:50,250
>> no. I just

998
00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:51,251
wanted to put it on your radar. I

999
00:40:51,251 --> 00:40:52,319
think it would be a good balance

1000
00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:53,387
based on the decisions made regarding

1001
00:40:53,387 --> 00:40:55,787
the charitable solicitation commission.

1002
00:40:56,256 --> 00:40:57,257
all right. So those are my questions.

1003
00:40:57,257 --> 00:41:00,257
do you have any others?

1004
00:41:02,262 --> 00:41:03,263
>> no. I think this is a bit of a

1005
00:41:03,263 --> 00:41:05,232
major move where we have

1006
00:41:05,232 --> 00:41:09,236
so many organizations that have been getting

1007
00:41:09,236 --> 00:41:11,238
funding and have been doing good

1008
00:41:11,238 --> 00:41:12,239
work. But I guess it is to focus on

1009
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,639
the residents, they just

1010
00:41:15,242 --> 00:41:17,244
have not been providing that.

1011
00:41:17,244 --> 00:41:18,245
I would absolutely set something up

1012
00:41:18,245 --> 00:41:21,245
to allow them to respond,

1013
00:41:21,248 --> 00:41:23,250
to make their arguments.

1014
00:41:23,250 --> 00:41:24,251
it again, lay it on the line. We love

1015
00:41:24,251 --> 00:41:26,651
the work you do,

1016
00:41:27,254 --> 00:41:29,254
unfortunately your facilities

1017
00:41:30,257 --> 00:41:33,260
are not buying used by our

1018
00:41:33,260 --> 00:41:34,261
residents and therefore that is the

1019
00:41:34,261 --> 00:41:35,362
basis of our

1020
00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:36,263
judgment. We have to allocate resources

1021
00:41:36,263 --> 00:41:37,364
to

1022
00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:40,964
services that our residents are using.

1023
00:41:42,236 --> 00:41:43,270
I think being very straight

1024
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:45,239
about that but having the ability

1025
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,241
for them to come to us and talk

1026
00:41:47,241 --> 00:41:48,242
to us, that is fine. There is time.

1027
00:41:48,242 --> 00:41:50,242
and I

1028
00:41:50,244 --> 00:41:54,248
like the suggestion to give funding to

1029
00:41:54,248 --> 00:41:57,248
the arts and culture commission,

1030
00:41:57,251 --> 00:41:59,651
to allow them to

1031
00:42:00,254 --> 00:42:03,854
separately give grants to cultural institutions.

1032
00:42:06,260 --> 00:42:07,261
>> I don't know if we would do a whole

1033
00:42:07,261 --> 00:42:08,529
process

1034
00:42:08,529 --> 00:42:15,129
that they would come to us. I think that I would

1035
00:42:15,235 --> 00:42:16,236
--

1036
00:42:16,236 --> 00:42:17,237
>> there is public

1037
00:42:17,237 --> 00:42:18,238
comment. And they have come to us

1038
00:42:18,238 --> 00:42:20,240
in the past when we have said sorry,

1039
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:21,241
no. We have to expect that. They are

1040
00:42:21,241 --> 00:42:23,243
allowed to do that. But

1041
00:42:23,243 --> 00:42:24,311
I would actually, to save them time

1042
00:42:24,311 --> 00:42:26,246
and whatever, I would lay it on the

1043
00:42:26,246 --> 00:42:27,247
line. This is what we are looking

1044
00:42:27,247 --> 00:42:30,250
for. And you only have 10% of

1045
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:31,251
the money we are giving you going

1046
00:42:31,251 --> 00:42:33,251
to our residents.

1047
00:42:33,253 --> 00:42:36,853
that is just not an efficient

1048
00:42:41,261 --> 00:42:42,262
allocation of resources.

1049
00:42:42,262 --> 00:42:43,263
>> I want

1050
00:42:43,263 --> 00:42:44,264
to just add that part

1051
00:42:44,264 --> 00:42:45,232
of the, like a six month long cagf

1052
00:42:45,232 --> 00:42:46,233
process, echoes through the early,

1053
00:42:46,233 --> 00:42:48,233
late

1054
00:42:48,235 --> 00:42:51,238
winter, early spring. We do get an ad hoc of

1055
00:42:51,238 --> 00:42:53,238
two commission members

1056
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,241
entered will commission members that join the

1057
00:42:54,241 --> 00:42:56,241
human

1058
00:42:57,244 --> 00:42:58,245
services staff to conduct interviews

1059
00:42:58,245 --> 00:43:00,645
with all new applicants

1060
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:05,252
, as well as any applicant that was

1061
00:43:05,252 --> 00:43:06,353
existing and maybe we have questions

1062
00:43:06,353 --> 00:43:07,254
about or would like to see performance

1063
00:43:07,254 --> 00:43:08,388
change or

1064
00:43:08,388 --> 00:43:12,588
that we had questions about their data.

1065
00:43:15,262 --> 00:43:16,263
we have been thinking about this and

1066
00:43:16,263 --> 00:43:17,264
hearing the commissioners

1067
00:43:17,264 --> 00:43:18,232
over the past two years talk about

1068
00:43:18,232 --> 00:43:19,233
wanting to bring the impact directly

1069
00:43:19,233 --> 00:43:20,234
to

1070
00:43:20,234 --> 00:43:22,236
beverly hills residents. Those were

1071
00:43:22,236 --> 00:43:23,337
some of the

1072
00:43:23,337 --> 00:43:28,137
questions we asked. I hate to pick on

1073
00:43:28,242 --> 00:43:30,244
an organization, but as

1074
00:43:30,244 --> 00:43:31,245
an example safe parking l.a., last

1075
00:43:31,245 --> 00:43:32,246
year they

1076
00:43:32,246 --> 00:43:34,248
were funded for $50,000. This year

1077
00:43:34,248 --> 00:43:36,648
they were funded for $10,000.

1078
00:43:40,254 --> 00:43:41,288
when we met with them in the

1079
00:43:41,288 --> 00:43:42,289
spring, we said look, you have not

1080
00:43:42,289 --> 00:43:43,257
provided us with data that shows x

1081
00:43:43,257 --> 00:43:44,391
amount

1082
00:43:44,391 --> 00:43:46,260
of vehicles that were parked in beverly

1083
00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:48,260
hills with

1084
00:43:49,263 --> 00:43:51,231
someone unhoused living in them

1085
00:43:51,231 --> 00:43:52,232
and then went to one of your parking

1086
00:43:52,232 --> 00:43:53,233
lots.

1087
00:43:53,233 --> 00:43:54,234
>> that is

1088
00:43:54,234 --> 00:43:55,235
because it is pointless. We have ordinances

1089
00:43:55,235 --> 00:43:56,236
in place that there is no overnight

1090
00:43:56,236 --> 00:43:57,237
parking in our city.

1091
00:43:57,237 --> 00:43:59,237
>> absolutely.

1092
00:44:03,243 --> 00:44:04,244
but there are still folks that might

1093
00:44:04,244 --> 00:44:05,245
parked here during

1094
00:44:05,245 --> 00:44:07,247
the day and then park in front of

1095
00:44:07,247 --> 00:44:08,382
a park in a park ranger

1096
00:44:08,382 --> 00:44:10,250
can see that they are back, the backseat

1097
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:13,250
is completely full of personal

1098
00:44:13,253 --> 00:44:15,653
belongings. That would be

1099
00:44:16,256 --> 00:44:17,291
a recommendation. If you

1100
00:44:17,291 --> 00:44:19,259
do not want to dispose of your vehicle

1101
00:44:19,259 --> 00:44:20,260
and come inside to a shelter,

1102
00:44:20,260 --> 00:44:21,395
you could go there. When we pressed

1103
00:44:21,395 --> 00:44:24,264
safe parking, we asked how many vehicles,

1104
00:44:24,264 --> 00:44:25,232
it was exactly the answer that we

1105
00:44:25,232 --> 00:44:26,233
knew it would

1106
00:44:26,233 --> 00:44:31,330
be, which was zero. They say but we

1107
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,241
service hundreds of people from spa

1108
00:44:34,241 --> 00:44:35,275
5, that

1109
00:44:35,275 --> 00:44:37,244
includes l.a., santa monica, culver

1110
00:44:37,244 --> 00:44:40,247
city, and unincorporated areas. None of those from

1111
00:44:40,247 --> 00:44:42,247
beverly hills.

1112
00:44:43,250 --> 00:44:45,252
I say this to say that

1113
00:44:45,252 --> 00:44:46,253
from staff and commission's perspective,

1114
00:44:46,253 --> 00:44:48,253
we

1115
00:44:49,256 --> 00:44:51,258
were driving the organizations

1116
00:44:51,258 --> 00:44:52,259
to provide the data in the spring.

1117
00:44:52,259 --> 00:44:53,260
those that were

1118
00:44:53,260 --> 00:44:55,262
able to provide compelling data are

1119
00:44:55,262 --> 00:44:57,264
on the list that is recommended

1120
00:44:57,264 --> 00:44:58,232
to be contracted for. And those that

1121
00:44:58,232 --> 00:44:59,233
could not provide data

1122
00:44:59,233 --> 00:45:02,833
or could only speak to generalities

1123
00:45:04,238 --> 00:45:05,372
--

1124
00:45:05,372 --> 00:45:07,241
>> that is fine. You will tell them

1125
00:45:07,241 --> 00:45:10,241
that they are on hiatus,

1126
00:45:10,244 --> 00:45:12,644
they will say geez,

1127
00:45:13,247 --> 00:45:14,248
they know that they

1128
00:45:14,248 --> 00:45:15,249
can come to us if they want.

1129
00:45:15,249 --> 00:45:16,250
>> I

1130
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:17,317
support the staff decision. It looks

1131
00:45:17,317 --> 00:45:18,285
like you have done your due diligence

1132
00:45:18,285 --> 00:45:19,253
and have asked those questions. And

1133
00:45:19,253 --> 00:45:20,254
that

1134
00:45:20,254 --> 00:45:21,255
is why these recommendations were

1135
00:45:21,255 --> 00:45:22,256
made in the first place. With regard

1136
00:45:22,256 --> 00:45:24,256
to decreasing it

1137
00:45:25,259 --> 00:45:27,259
from 50, to 10. So

1138
00:45:27,261 --> 00:45:28,262
that was kind of a here, we are letting

1139
00:45:28,262 --> 00:45:29,263
you

1140
00:45:29,263 --> 00:45:34,663
know, we will still give you a little bit

1141
00:45:36,236 --> 00:45:37,237
more. But I support the staff's decision

1142
00:45:37,237 --> 00:45:38,405
on that. The only thing

1143
00:45:38,405 --> 00:45:40,240
that I was going to recommend additionally

1144
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,243
when I was listening, on your application

1145
00:45:43,243 --> 00:45:45,243
,

1146
00:45:46,246 --> 00:45:47,247
formally

1147
00:45:47,247 --> 00:45:49,249
there should be a place that says

1148
00:45:49,249 --> 00:45:52,849
how were the funds used? Was

1149
00:45:54,254 --> 00:45:55,255
it for what you described in the first

1150
00:45:55,255 --> 00:45:56,256
place? What

1151
00:45:56,256 --> 00:45:58,258
percentage of the funds were used?

1152
00:45:58,258 --> 00:46:01,261
a lot of times organizations do not use

1153
00:46:01,261 --> 00:46:03,263
all of the funding.

1154
00:46:03,263 --> 00:46:06,233
that is good for us to know as well.

1155
00:46:06,233 --> 00:46:07,234
and, you know, what percentage of

1156
00:46:07,234 --> 00:46:09,234
it

1157
00:46:09,236 --> 00:46:13,240
was used for the city of beverly hills residents specifically.

1158
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,243
so I am sure that you

1159
00:46:16,243 --> 00:46:19,243
have that but just to

1160
00:46:19,246 --> 00:46:21,248
clarify and make sure. You could also

1161
00:46:21,248 --> 00:46:22,249
look at the form that the beverly

1162
00:46:22,249 --> 00:46:24,251
hills rotary club has.

1163
00:46:24,251 --> 00:46:28,255
a lot of the questions for their grants

1164
00:46:28,255 --> 00:46:30,257
that they offer for repeat

1165
00:46:30,257 --> 00:46:33,260
groups have a lot of those questions on

1166
00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:36,263
it, just to clarify and make sure

1167
00:46:36,263 --> 00:46:37,264
that the money went where it was supposed

1168
00:46:37,264 --> 00:46:38,232
to go in

1169
00:46:38,232 --> 00:46:40,234
spent how they said it was going to

1170
00:46:40,234 --> 00:46:43,234
be spent. In the utilized

1171
00:46:43,237 --> 00:46:46,837
all the money that was spent

1172
00:46:48,242 --> 00:46:49,243
that we provided. What do you do if

1173
00:46:49,243 --> 00:46:52,243
someone says I did not

1174
00:46:52,246 --> 00:46:54,646
use all of the

1175
00:46:55,249 --> 00:46:56,250
, where

1176
00:46:56,250 --> 00:46:57,251
does it go?

1177
00:46:57,251 --> 00:46:58,318
>> the current process

1178
00:46:58,318 --> 00:46:59,319
where it is grant funding, there is

1179
00:46:59,319 --> 00:47:01,255
absolutely nothing we can do if they

1180
00:47:01,255 --> 00:47:02,256
are not using it directly for services.

1181
00:47:02,256 --> 00:47:03,257
>>

1182
00:47:03,257 --> 00:47:04,424
but that is taxpayer dollars that

1183
00:47:04,424 --> 00:47:07,261
were not utilized in the way that we originally

1184
00:47:07,261 --> 00:47:08,262
--

1185
00:47:08,262 --> 00:47:09,329
>> have you

1186
00:47:09,329 --> 00:47:10,297
let them know they will be on hiatus?

1187
00:47:10,297 --> 00:47:12,232
>> not yet. >> okay. Once you

1188
00:47:12,232 --> 00:47:13,233
do some of them, again, these are

1189
00:47:13,233 --> 00:47:14,234
public meetings and anyone can come

1190
00:47:14,234 --> 00:47:15,235
and

1191
00:47:15,235 --> 00:47:16,236
speak and ask, and they can. But if

1192
00:47:16,236 --> 00:47:18,236
they

1193
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,239
want [ pause ]

1194
00:47:22,242 --> 00:47:23,243
if they want

1195
00:47:23,243 --> 00:47:25,245
to be heard or taken seriously or

1196
00:47:25,245 --> 00:47:27,247
have any hope for a change, they are

1197
00:47:27,247 --> 00:47:28,248
going to have to answer those questions

1198
00:47:28,248 --> 00:47:30,648
and have to say

1199
00:47:31,251 --> 00:47:36,256
, either give a plan or say that the figures are

1200
00:47:36,256 --> 00:47:37,257
incorrect, or something. I will agree

1201
00:47:37,257 --> 00:47:39,259
with the vice mayor. I think it

1202
00:47:39,259 --> 00:47:43,263
behooves you to let these people know

1203
00:47:43,263 --> 00:47:44,331
, unless it needs to go to the

1204
00:47:44,331 --> 00:47:46,233
council first. But probably not. That

1205
00:47:46,233 --> 00:47:49,236
they will be put on hiatus.

1206
00:47:49,236 --> 00:47:51,238
now. Soon. So they can,

1207
00:47:51,238 --> 00:47:52,239
if they want to, either respond or

1208
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,639
not. I would get

1209
00:47:57,244 --> 00:47:58,245
that taken care of soon.

1210
00:47:58,245 --> 00:47:59,246
>> we absolutely

1211
00:47:59,246 --> 00:48:01,246
will councilmember. And

1212
00:48:01,248 --> 00:48:04,251
with the timing it will give them the opportunity to

1213
00:48:04,251 --> 00:48:07,254
make their case or reach out.

1214
00:48:07,254 --> 00:48:10,257
may I ask a clarifying question?

1215
00:48:10,257 --> 00:48:13,260
so, what I heard was that

1216
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:14,294
we are interested in

1217
00:48:14,294 --> 00:48:17,894
moving the arts and culture grant

1218
00:48:19,233 --> 00:48:22,236
funding to the arts and culture commission.

1219
00:48:22,236 --> 00:48:24,236
I

1220
00:48:24,238 --> 00:48:25,239
just want to clarify that we still

1221
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,241
intend for that funding to be

1222
00:48:27,241 --> 00:48:31,245
used for the grant program. Is that correct?

1223
00:48:31,245 --> 00:48:34,245
>> oh, oh! Otherwise it was

1224
00:48:34,248 --> 00:48:37,248
going to be a [ pause ]

1225
00:48:37,251 --> 00:48:40,851
I need to think about that.

1226
00:48:43,257 --> 00:48:45,257
>> as

1227
00:48:45,259 --> 00:48:46,260
opposed to what? Yes, it would be

1228
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:47,361
used.

1229
00:48:47,361 --> 00:48:48,362
>> no. We were going to recommend

1230
00:48:48,362 --> 00:48:49,263
for them to be contractual. As opposed

1231
00:48:49,263 --> 00:48:51,663
to grants. Is that

1232
00:48:52,232 --> 00:48:54,234
what you are saying?

1233
00:48:54,234 --> 00:48:55,235
>> it is actually a two-part question.

1234
00:48:55,235 --> 00:48:58,235
yes, we were intending for

1235
00:48:58,238 --> 00:49:00,240
them to become contractual. So what

1236
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,244
I was saying earlier was still working through some

1237
00:49:04,244 --> 00:49:07,247
of what the reporting will look

1238
00:49:07,247 --> 00:49:10,250
like. So, how much do we give

1239
00:49:10,250 --> 00:49:12,250
to theater 40? 50,000?

1240
00:49:15,255 --> 00:49:16,256
>> 50,000. >> I am sure that the seizing

1241
00:49:16,256 --> 00:49:18,258
costs more than 50,000. Right? We

1242
00:49:18,258 --> 00:49:19,259
have to think through what that would

1243
00:49:19,259 --> 00:49:22,259
look like. But the intention

1244
00:49:22,262 --> 00:49:25,232
here was to move those four organizations into a contractual

1245
00:49:25,232 --> 00:49:27,232
basis. So

1246
00:49:29,236 --> 00:49:31,238
that is question one.

1247
00:49:31,238 --> 00:49:34,241
>> I would support a contractual service. Adjust,

1248
00:49:34,241 --> 00:49:35,242
I do not know if it will make more

1249
00:49:35,242 --> 00:49:37,242
work or

1250
00:49:38,245 --> 00:49:40,645
if it would help

1251
00:49:41,248 --> 00:49:43,250
. I just thought if something is

1252
00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:46,850
cultural, arts and culture, it should

1253
00:49:47,254 --> 00:49:49,256
be in that division.

1254
00:49:49,256 --> 00:49:50,257
but if it is too complicated and easier

1255
00:49:50,257 --> 00:49:51,258
to

1256
00:49:51,258 --> 00:49:53,260
have it all in one place, I am fine

1257
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,660
with putting it in

1258
00:49:56,263 --> 00:49:59,233
. I think it is fine to make all

1259
00:49:59,233 --> 00:50:00,467
of these contractual right now.

1260
00:50:00,467 --> 00:50:02,236
>> yes, and that is entirely, you know,

1261
00:50:02,236 --> 00:50:03,470
we will do

1262
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:08,242
whatever it is that the council would like to do.

1263
00:50:08,242 --> 00:50:11,242
so it is a question

1264
00:50:11,245 --> 00:50:12,246
to you. If that is

1265
00:50:12,246 --> 00:50:13,313
the case, if we want to make them

1266
00:50:13,313 --> 00:50:16,913
contractual, then I don't know that

1267
00:50:19,253 --> 00:50:20,254
there would be a role for arts and

1268
00:50:20,254 --> 00:50:21,255
culture.

1269
00:50:21,255 --> 00:50:22,289
>> you

1270
00:50:22,289 --> 00:50:23,257
are right. I didn't -- again, this

1271
00:50:23,257 --> 00:50:24,391
was

1272
00:50:24,391 --> 00:50:27,261
before I realized that all were becoming

1273
00:50:27,261 --> 00:50:29,263
contractual. In that case I would

1274
00:50:29,263 --> 00:50:32,232
keep it where it is.

1275
00:50:32,232 --> 00:50:34,232
and

1276
00:50:34,234 --> 00:50:37,237
let's try it and see how it goes this

1277
00:50:37,237 --> 00:50:38,238
year with that process.

1278
00:50:38,238 --> 00:50:39,239
>> we will

1279
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,340
still move it to

1280
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:42,242
community services, which is where the

1281
00:50:42,242 --> 00:50:45,842
arts and culture funding , the larger

1282
00:50:47,247 --> 00:50:49,249
program for the city

1283
00:50:49,249 --> 00:50:50,250
is located. But they would be contractual

1284
00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:52,250
just under community

1285
00:50:53,253 --> 00:50:55,653
services, then under fire.

1286
00:50:56,256 --> 00:50:58,656
>> well, would you agree

1287
00:50:59,259 --> 00:51:00,260
with that?

1288
00:51:00,260 --> 00:51:01,361
>> yes. Yes. >> I just

1289
00:51:01,361 --> 00:51:02,262
think that we are providing services,

1290
00:51:02,262 --> 00:51:03,263
I mean

1291
00:51:03,263 --> 00:51:05,232
this is a beautiful service to give

1292
00:51:05,232 --> 00:51:07,232
arts and culture

1293
00:51:08,235 --> 00:51:09,336
to the community, but I

1294
00:51:09,336 --> 00:51:12,936
think we have different budgeting issues.

1295
00:51:14,241 --> 00:51:15,342
like set aside for that.

1296
00:51:15,342 --> 00:51:17,244
>> yes. Okay. That is helpful. To

1297
00:51:17,244 --> 00:51:18,245
I.

1298
00:51:18,245 --> 00:51:20,247
>> thank you for clarifying.

1299
00:51:20,247 --> 00:51:21,248
that

1300
00:51:21,248 --> 00:51:22,249
was helpful. Anything else from you,

1301
00:51:22,249 --> 00:51:26,253
sir? Okay. Thank you for being here.

1302
00:51:26,253 --> 00:51:29,253
and the meeting is adjourned.