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» Well, good evening everyone. Um, thank

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you all. Everyone just really got very

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quiet all on Q. Thank you for that. That

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made it very easy. Didn't even need

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this. Um, thank you for joining us this

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evening in council chambers or if you're

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joining us on Bevcam, our thanks as

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always to Kim and the Bevcam booth for

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keeping our meetings accessible. Thank

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you so much. Um, it's a pleasure to have

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folks here with us in the council

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chamber. I imagine there may be other

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folks who are planning on coming. We

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have some uh public hearings that are

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posted starting at 7:30 today, but I'll

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mention now and you'll hear me mention

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again as we get closer. If you are here

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and interested in speaking in any one of

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those public hearings, there are signup

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sheets on the table under the window uh

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over to my right. You can get up and add

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your name to the one for the hearing or

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hearings that you're interested in

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speaking in. And we will take public

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speakers in the order that they're

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signed up when we come to that portion

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of the meeting. Um as is our usual

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practice, I'll just run through briefly

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what's on our agenda before officially

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calling the meeting to order so that we

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can all know what's in front of us this

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evening. We do have a very full agenda

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this evening. We have a lot going on. Um

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at the top of the agenda, we have two

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presentations. Um one that I'll be

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making and one that Mayor Cahill will be

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making with an update on city projects.

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the times they're posted. Depending on

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how they're running into each other, we

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may need to open and recess one of them,

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but you'll you'll see us open those at

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their posted times. We do have two folks

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who have signed up as um comments from

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residents and so we will take those as

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we can in the order um with those public

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hearings making allowance for the public

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hearings and thank you to those two

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folks who have signed up and thank you

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also for your flexibility with the

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schedule. Um and then we've got some

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routine business that we need to take

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care of. We'll take a break for some

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subcommittee work and we'll come back to

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finish it all up. So with that, I'll

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officially call to order this regular

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meeting of the Beverly City Council,

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Tuesday, January 20th, 2026, 7 o'clock

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p.m. Miss Kent, will you please call the

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role? Crowley

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>> Feldman

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>> Houseman

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>> And Flowers

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>> here. Thank you, Miss Kent. Councelor

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Ratundo, will you lead us in the pledge

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of allegiance, please?

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I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you very much, Councelor Retundo.

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I just wanted to mention that uh his

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honor the mayor is here with us this

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evening as well. Thank you very much,

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Mr. Mayor. I know we'll be hearing a

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presentation from you shortly. Um we

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have me many members of our city staff

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are here. Thank you all as well for

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joining us this evening. Uh so the very

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first presentation this evening is one

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that I intended to give at the

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inauguration and was not there due to

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illness. Um my thanks to councilors

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Carly and Vice President St. Helair for

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your work in leading that meeting in my

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absence. Thank you very much to both of

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you. Um particularly finding out that

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morning that you were going to be doing

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it. So thank you. And thank you also to

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our city clerk of course, Miss Kent, for leading in that as well. Um, so I'm

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going to go to the podium and share some

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of the remarks that I would have shared

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that evening that morning.

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be offering these remarks at a city

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council meeting, a regular meeting like

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this one rather than at the

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inauguration.

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all those here in attendance, as well as

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to Bev Cam for affording me this time to

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share these remarks that I had prepared

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for that occasion but was unable to

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share and offer due to illness. I share

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them now, however, with the hope that

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they might still help us to open this

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our new term of office together and this

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new year as we enter into this first

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regular meeting of this city council

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term. And so, fellow city councilors,

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Mr. Mr. Mayor, school committee members

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who may be watching this at another

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time, city staff, and members of the

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Beverly community. As we enter into this

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new year and this new term, I begin by

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sharing words of poetry, written by

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Amanda Gorman from her book, Call Us

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What We Carry. I invite you to hear

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these words, slightly excerpted for

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time, from the poem with nearly the same

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name as the book, her poem entitled What

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We Carry.

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As kids, we sat in grass, fished our

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hands into the dirt. We felt that damp

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brown universe writhe, alert and alive.

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Earth cuped in the boat of our palms.

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Our eyes waxed wide with wonder.

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Children understand. Even grime is a

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gift. Even what is mired is miraculous.

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What is marred is still marvelous.

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We continue speaking, writing, hoping,

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living, loving, fighting. That is to

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say, we believe beyond disaster.

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Even endings end at the lip of land.

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Time arcs into itself. It is not a

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repeat, but a reckoning. Days can't help

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but walk two by two. The past and

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present, paired and paralleled. It is

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the future we save from ourselves, for

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ourselves.

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Words matter for language is an ark.

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Yes, language is an art, an articulate

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artifact. Language is a life craft. Yes,

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language is a life raft. We have

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recalled how to touch each other and how

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to trust all that is good and all right.

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We have learned our true names, not what

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we are called, but what we are called to

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carry forth from here.

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What do we carry? If not, what and who

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we care most for? The truth is one globe

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wonder flawed here to the preservation

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of a light so terrific

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in discarding. The truth is there is joy

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in discarding almost everything. Our

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rage, our wreckage, our hubris, our

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hate, our ghosts, our greed, our wrath,

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our wars on the beating shore. We

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haven't any haven for them here.

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Rejoice for what we have left behind

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will not free us, but what we have left

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is all we need. We are enough. Armed

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only with our hands, open but unied,

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just like a blooming thing. We walk into

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tomorrow, carrying nothing but the

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world.

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Now, it might seem at first glance like

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poetry and municipal governance have

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very little to do with one another. like

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these words of Gorman's the first young

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poet ever to be named America's national

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youth poet laurate back in 2017 paving

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the way for those who followed her

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including our current national youth

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poet laurate Evan Wang the first East

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Asian male poet to hold the title feel

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out of place in these council chambers a

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place where we come to engage in the

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serious business of the city

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but I would suggest however that poetry

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and municipal governance have everything

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to do with one another that these words

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of Gorman's call us with a seriousness

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of purpose that belongs in this space

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and in this place.

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Poets understand that the space between

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the words is as important as the words

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on the page. That deep meaning comes not

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just from what is said, but what is left

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unsaid.

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That building connections and bridges in

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creative, unusual, or unlikely ways

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matters deeply.

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leadership here in this city, the city

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that we love and care for, and we who

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live in and care about this city, we are

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called to understand the same. The

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business of local government is the

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space between. Working to seek out and

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strengthen relationships with our

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residents and with one another. Working

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to solve problems that have gone without

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solutions.

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working to meet needs and fill gaps in

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funding, in service provision, in food

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access, in housing access. Working to

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bridge the space between where our

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community is now and where together we

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believe it can be. Taking this charge

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seriously means that we understand the

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power of what we say or the deafening

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silence that can be left by what we lack

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the courage to say. It means we

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understand the importance of recognizing

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what we carry and what others carry, of

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honoring the stories that our residents

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bring to us, and of working creatively

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to create connections and to find

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solutions.

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that it's the campaigning that's done in

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poetry and then the governing has to be

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done in pros. A way of suggesting

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perhaps that campaigns are about

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creativity and aspiration. But then the

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real everyday work requires

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steadfastness, seriousness of purpose,

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justified margins, and serious

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And the work of local leadership and

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governance does indeed require our

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steadfastness, our seriousness of

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purpose, and a thoughtful attention to

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detail. But as we set out on the work of

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this new term together, I offer us this

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reminder to let this work also be filled

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with creativity and aspiration,

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flexibility and playfulness, unexpected

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connections, and enough joy, dedication,

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passion, and compassion for the people

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and for this city to help fill the

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spaces between us.

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We will need all those tools in our

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toolbox to tackle the very real

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challenges we know are ahead of us this

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term. A more difficult financial

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environment than we have seen in recent

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years. A known projected shortfall for

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fiscal year 27 that demands our hard

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work, creative problem solving, and

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diligent attention.

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Infrastructure needs on both the

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municipal and school sides of our

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budget. our desire to continue to invest

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in our public schools, in our

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outstanding educators, and our

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incredible young people. Rising

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sanitation costs and a new sanitation

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contract to be negotiated.

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Continuing our steadfast dedication to

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addressing the affordability crisis in

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our region and the need for more

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workforce housing, senior housing,

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family housing, and deeply affordable

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housing with dignity for all people of

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all ages.

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meeting the needs of our most vulnerable

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neighbors. From those who are currently

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unhoused to those who are food and

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housing insecure to our immigrant

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neighbors living in fear in the current

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national climate. To our LGBTQIA plus

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neighbors and especially our trans

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community whose very right to safety and

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existence is under attack on the

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national level.

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All of these things carried by our

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neighbors in this community must matter

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deeply to us because they matter deeply

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to those who have entrusted us with

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these leadership roles in this

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community. In the words of the opening

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poem, what do we carry if not what and

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who we care most for?

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We are called to carry them with

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seriousness and care and then to dig in

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and to do the work of continued

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community building together.

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And there is another reason for my

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choice of Amanda Gorman's poem, What We

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Carry, to share with you at the outset

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of this new term.

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Because we know that as a community, we

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come to this new term and this new year

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having come through challenging moments

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together over the last one. And we carry

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each one of us the experiences, the

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hurts and the joys, the challenges and

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the worries, the upset and the

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disappointment, the achievements and the

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connections, the wonder and the learning

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of that year and those moments and those

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experiences become part of our stories.

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Recognizing what it is that we are

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carrying and what it is that we are

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ready to heal or put down. And then

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recognizing and honoring the same in

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others is an important part of how we

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now work to move forward as a community

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together.

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This is how I believe together we create

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the future we dream.

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In closing, I invite you to hear once

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more those closing words from Amanda

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Gorman's poem.

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Here's to the preservation of a light so

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terrific. The truth is there is joy in

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discarding almost everything. Our rage,

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our wreckage, our hubris, our hate, our

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ghosts, our greed, our wrath, our wars

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on the beating shore. We haven't any

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haven for them here. Rejoice for what we

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have left behind will not free us. But

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what we have left is all we need. We are

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enough. Armed only with our hands open

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but unimpied just like a blooming thing,

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we walk into tomorrow carrying nothing

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but the world.

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Fellow counselors,

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Mr. Mayor, fellow elected officials,

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city staff, and residents of Beverly,

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what a privilege, honor, and gift it is

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to carry one another's stories, hopes,

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aspirations, and dreams for this city

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that we love. What a privilege, honor,

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and gift it is to be able to work to

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create connections in the space between

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and to work for creative solutions

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together. So may we take seriously now

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the work that lies before us. Thank you.

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[applause]

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Thank you very much everyone for the

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opportunity to share those remarks that

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would have been inauguration remarks

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that are now regular meeting remarks. So

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thank you.

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The second presentation on our agenda

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this evening comes from Mayor Cahill and

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that will be an update on city projects.

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And so Mr. Mayor, we'll turn the podium

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over to you and thank you for being here

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with us.

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>> Thanks, Madam President. Good to see

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everybody. Um, so I'm going to walk us

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through a number of slides that are just

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um updates on where different projects

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are at. I want to share with you that

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[clears throat]

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um some months when I when we come to do

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this I'll make sure to bring uh given

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department heads who are running point

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on specific projects tonight in part

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because it's January and in part because

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the agenda is so full and in part

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because after talking with some of you

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recently um it seems that you all as a

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body would like more frequent updates.

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Uh now that's really up to you uh in the

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sense that your agendas get full and I

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don't want to try to put these in front

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of you too often but if you want to

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rather than quarterly do these every

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other month for the time being uh you

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know we can we can try that. Um I know

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that one of our biggest

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just having kicked off projects is the

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water meter replacements. There's a

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slide in here on that probably worth a

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deeper dive at an upcoming meeting for

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example. Um, but at any rate, let me uh

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let me just jump right in with you here.

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Uh, the youth center project, as you

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know, it's well under construction. It

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should be open. It's not quite open yet,

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but the good news is, um,

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there's a there's a typo in the

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construction timeline. Um the plan right

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now is that we hope to have the youth

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center, the you know the young folks and

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the staff moving in there by mid-Marchch

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with an early April dedication ceremony

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that we're we're going to try to time up

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right so that people can um participate

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and enjoy. Uh but again the goal right

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now is that they'll be in by mid-March.

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And I think yeah the rest of the words

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there yep that's all just supportive of

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that. Next,

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Central Fire Station. The construction

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completed this past summer of the

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building envelope work including new

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roof, new windows, new doors,

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insulation, and repointing. Uh on the

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HVAC side of the project, heat pumps

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have been installed. There's a long lead

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time on electrical equipment that we

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ordered last year um due in March. And

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so the plan is hopefully that's all

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installed late winter suggests late

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March. So that's really the key month

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right now for finishing the HVAC work at

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Central Fire Station.

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The public library main branch work uh

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conigly construction. Those of you who

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were on last term you remember meeting

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them during the conversations about the

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project. Uh they mobilized on site

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beginning today. completion of work by

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early June. The scope of the work we

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have about well we have $2.2 million of

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budget on that project and the scope of

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work includes insulating the building,

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refurbishment of the rooftop air

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handling units. There are two air

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handling units or numerous components to

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make up each one. Uh they're all being

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replaced. Um the insulation involved is

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the the focus there is the fact that the

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where the addition from the early to the

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mid 90s meets the original building

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there is a leakage there is air that

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gets in and there the air that gets out

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every day. Um so that's been one of the

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key priorities on top of replacing the

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air handling unit components so that

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they'll work better going forward for a

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number of years. The other big piece of

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this is doing as much insulation as we

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can afford to do. We have a couple of um

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uh alternate pieces of scope that both

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have to do with additional insulation.

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And as we work through the project over

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the next few months, we will uh include

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additional insulation in a couple key

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points if the uh if the budget allows

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between now and and completion.

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Water meter replacement. You've heard a

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lot about this. 250 meters have been

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installed to date. Uh the full ramp up

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should begin in February. Right now,

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there's one installer working with the

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city. Starting in February, there'll be

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four installers working daily. Customers

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receiving estimated bills should

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continue to provide readings and the

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city will prioritize these replacements

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when possible. I'll say more about that

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in a minute. Um customers will receive

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instructions to make an official

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replacement appointment. Some of you may

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have already had that happen. The early

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install work has gone on around Prospect

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Hill and Monserat. Um target substantial

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completion date is a year from this

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summer.

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So everything's on track. Uh, one of the

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things that I asked our team was I

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thought more meters would have been

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installed by now. But what I got back

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was the mindset of really um

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starting right so as not to trip over

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our own feet. Um, the concept of

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measuring twice to cut once. The whole

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idea of getting it getting everything

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teed up and kicked off the right way.

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And that's why they've had one installer

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to date and are getting ready to ramp it

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up. Um there are, as I think we all

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know, we all get our water sewer bills

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quarterly in the city. A third of our uh

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third of our residents get those bills

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on the 1 of say January, the other third

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February, the other third March. So it

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rolls and the work similar similarly is

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going to roll in sections of the city.

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We're going to be meeting uh the week

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after next with the team to see how much

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more we can uh prioritize those whose

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meters are currently not working. Um it

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would it would not work to just

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chase those broken meters around the

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community. There's efficiencies lost on

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how many that a given installer can get

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done in a day. But what we're going to

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try to do is by by different

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parts of the city try to prioritize

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those whose meters aren't working now

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within a given part. Um we'll we'll

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learn more about that because that's a

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question we've posed to the install

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team. Uh it's one we've been carrying as

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a as a talking point with them all along

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and we'll we'll try to um

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really kind of parse through that with

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them and see how much more uh specific

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they can be in sharing with you at an

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upcoming update. For any of you whose

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constituents reach out who are

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frustrated with bills, make sure you

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continue to, you know, um pass them over

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to to my office and to um where's Glenn?

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Glennice is in engineering. engineering

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that we're so you know between our two

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offices we try to run them down and and

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help people with those. Uh, next, Bridge

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Street. The Bridge Street project

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mileide, which is, you know, it's what

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you call a tip project, right? It's one

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of those road construction projects

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that's too expensive for city or town to

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handle on its own. We did the design

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work on it years ago, got in line on the

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state list for uh federal and state

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funding several years ago, about eight

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years um ago, eight, nine years ago. the

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project was started counselor started

545
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520
two years ago and and it's it's pretty

546
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,000
much it's complete but for the fact that

547
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,480
the temporary bridge construction over

548
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,600
the Bass River has meant that you know

549
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,280
the limits of that project couldn't be

550
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,000
finished but from the Damvers line down

551
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,720
to Fulier A so close down to the to the

552
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,440
Bass River it was all completed this

553
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720
past year um

554
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,080
lots of hard work by councelor Ratundo

555
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,880
um folks in my office to to try to stay

556
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,520
up with um neighbors concerns during the

557
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,159
construction. Uh and I think I think all

558
00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:30,720
in all it's been a fantastic I mean that road is now solid for

559
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,679
what should we say 50 60 years and it

560
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:38,789
and it's it's a great great improvement.

561
00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,280
these the rapid flashing beacons. Some

562
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760
of you have one in your ward uh or more

563
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,880
than one. We were made aware a little

564
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960
over a year ago of a grant program that

565
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520
Massd was offering and it was a quick

566
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,400
turnaround. We had to meet um warrants

567
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,679
or requirements for the uh for the sites

568
00:23:57,679 --> 00:23:59,919
that we would look to and we were able

569
00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:03,440
to get a grant to install and and this

570
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,120
was the full cost was covered by the

571
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,520
state. um these rapid flashing beacons,

572
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,039
we already had a few of them in town, so

573
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:12,480
we've added five at some high um high

574
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,880
pedestrian traffic uh places in town.

575
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,640
You can see Sawyer Road right at the

576
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,400
bottom of the hill, right by the high

577
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,039
school entrance. Brimble at Palmer Road

578
00:24:21,039 --> 00:24:23,600
where a lot of people walk um to and

579
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,159
from Hannah School and and the train as

580
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:27,919
well as other for other reasons. Dodge

581
00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:30,240
Street at Putnham is particularly a

582
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,159
place where a lot of students, a lot of

583
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:34,640
children go back and forth to uh North

584
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,640
Beverly School. Essex Street at Gro

585
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960
Street is right by Centerville Market.

586
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,520
Uh if you lived in Centerville long

587
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,840
enough ago, Paul Mills store, but uh

588
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520
it's it's the Richdale right there. And

589
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,200
so that's a very heavily pedestrian

590
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,120
trafficked area. And then McKay near

591
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,080
Sturdivan is by Shoe Pond. Uh it's it's

592
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,640
a way for neighbors in the Shingleville

593
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,799
neighborhood to cross the street safely.

594
00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,080
So, I think it I think it's fantastic

595
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,559
that we got them. Uh, let's keep track

596
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,320
on where else in the community these

597
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,279
might make sense. Um, and uh, you know,

598
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,039
always looking for opportunity. They're

599
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,520
not prohibitively expensive.

600
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,600
Of course, if we can get the state to

601
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,559
fund them, all the better.

602
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,679
Brimble Avenue project um, projects,

603
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:21,279
both the Dunham roundabout and phase

604
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:24,960
two. So, the Dunham Road at Brimble A

605
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,679
roundabout, as you know, we got state

606
00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:30,320
grant money a few years ago to design a

607
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,559
roundabout there. Then we got state

608
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,640
grant money two years in a row to build

609
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,440
it. Um, so it's it's a total of $7.4

610
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,440
million in construction money, all

611
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,520
provided by the state. And we were able

612
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,279
to make a very strong case with the

613
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,200
state because most of the property is

614
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,039
owned by the Mass Department of

615
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,520
Transportation. Uh it's not most of it's

616
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000
not city property. [snorts] Um and then

617
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,240
we have pending a quarter of a million

618
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,480
dollar earmark that Senator Lovely and

619
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,080
Representative Bowen were able to help

620
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,120
us or secure for us and that should come

621
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,679
forward to help and that bumps up the

622
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:07,679
cushion on the project budget which is

623
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:11,039
you know that's helpful. So that project

624
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:14,000
is just about ready for final approval

625
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,880
by the state and the ex expectation is

626
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,039
we'll be kicking off construction early

627
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,880
summer this year about a year and a half

628
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,279
construction process. We will spend a

629
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:27,440
lot of time with the uh with PHP, the

630
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159
architectural design firm, and whoever

631
00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,799
we bring on board to build it. We'll

632
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,360
spend a lot of time with just how

633
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,200
they're going to construct and keep

634
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,039
traffic moving and, you know, meet

635
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:40,559
people's daily needs during the

636
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,360
construction. Um phase two is the other

637
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,799
big piece of the long-term effort around

638
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,679
the Brimble A neighborhood. Um, Dunham

639
00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:52,080
Roundabout is separate. When you think

640
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240
of phase two, phase one for the Brimble

641
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,880
Avenue project was the double roundabout

642
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,279
project where you get off at Sawyer Road

643
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,600
northbound and you come up to Brimlab by

644
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,400
the old Victoria Rocky. Um, so that pro

645
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,840
that project was built

646
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,279
2015 16. Um and and phase two is

647
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,679
it's long been challenging to figure out

648
00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:17,279
whether phase two could be a full

649
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:20,400
highway interchange across the highway

650
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,760
to the music theater or uh an overpass.

651
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
And we've landed back on an overpass

652
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,799
because it was ultimately made clear uh

653
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,080
by the federal highway folks that they

654
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,760
weren't going to approve a full

655
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,880
interchange so proximate so close to the

656
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Centerville and the Brimble

657
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,440
interchanges. So, we are and and some of

658
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520
you remember any of you who were on the

659
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,440
council when you approved this, you

660
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,720
approved uh money to take us to 10%

661
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,320
design on a an overpass

662
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,559
from Brimble A. So, what what you can

663
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:58,320
what you think of is that you know that

664
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,600
um Otis Road Otis Road right by Cycles

665
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,640
128 that is a private road that the

666
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,039
state is going to have to purchase uh as

667
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,679
a part of this project. So, Otis Road

668
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:12,799
over to an overpass connecting to the um

669
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,520
music theater and the uh Cummings Park

670
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,159
over there, Dunham Ridge.

671
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,799
Um so the next step with that and the

672
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,674
goal and the goal of getting the um

673
00:28:23,674 --> 00:28:26,159
[music] design to 10% is to get on the

674
00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:28,240
state's transportation improvement plan

675
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,559
and we are teeing up with with the uh

676
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,559
engineering firm we're working with to

677
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,520
try to get that approved at the at the m

678
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840
um metropolitan planning organization

679
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,559
level in the next couple of months. The

680
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,720
goal is they they annually update the

681
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,640
tip and our goal and that's been our

682
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320
goal going back a couple years is to get

683
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,080
on the tip this this round. So fingers

684
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,000
crossed we're working on it and we'll be making our best case to the MO

685
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,720
in the next couple months.

686
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,799
By the way that getting on the tip means

687
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,840
that you can start um pushing to get

688
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,159
funded and it's as I said with the with

689
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:06,559
the Bridge Street project um Bridge

690
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,240
Street was about a $16 million

691
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,360
construction project. this would be um

692
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,080
maybe double or more that uh it takes

693
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,840
several years once you're on the list to

694
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,159
move through the line. You got to take

695
00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:22,799
care of all of your own design work. And

696
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,120
they evaluate readiness for funding on

697
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
an annual basis and, you know, try to

698
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,679
move up that that list without too many

699
00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:34,559
years getting in the way of of um and getting to where when we're ready

700
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:35,919
when we've done the full design and

701
00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:38,159
we're ready for the state to fund that

702
00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:42,240
they're ready to to program us in and identify the funds and make them

703
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,200
available. Uh the three bridges project

704
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Also in Riyle side, as we all well know,

705
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,000
uh the state closed forever the Hall

706
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,039
Whitaker Bridge in June of 2022.

707
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:59,360
Um we now are in the process of I say we

708
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,760
but you know working with the state and

709
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,360
they they finally got through the

710
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,679
permitting and the temporary bridge is

711
00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:08,320
now under construction. You can see that

712
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,399
pier zero, I don't know why it's called

713
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,480
zero has been completed and piles for

714
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,559
peers one and two are being installed.

715
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,360
That work is all in that circle. It's

716
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,720
the top left within the circle. It's the

717
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,960
platform area from which they're going

718
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360
to be able to stage the rest of the work

719
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240
because the bridge is coming in prefab

720
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,039
pre-fabricated 10-in segments. And so

721
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,960
they're going to be they're staging to

722
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,559
be able to then kind of install and move the bridge right across

723
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,120
from the rile side or west side of the

724
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120
river over towards where the old bowl

725
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,320
was. The expectation is that that bridge

726
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,799
will be open to traffic by summer of a

727
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,760
year from now, summer of 2027. However,

728
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,399
in working with the construction team,

729
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,559
we've made a priority with them to find

730
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,799
ways to accelerate the process and

731
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,360
they're working with us and with Masdot

732
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,679
to figure out whether they can start to

733
00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:07,440
drive piles on both sides of the river.

734
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Um, and if they're able to do that, that

735
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,760
will be a way to accelerate the job by

736
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,520
some period of months. So that's an

737
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,399
inprocess effort to get the uh to

738
00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:19,520
identify with the state um more staging

739
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,279
area than they currently have. So some

740
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:23,360
off-site staging area and a couple of

741
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,200
other uh issues they're working through

742
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
and hopefully that's successful and and

743
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,440
then we can we can see a much more

744
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,159
accelerated um effort on construction

745
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:34,320
there.

746
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,070
Ober Park.

747
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,760
I'd say the big difference from the last

748
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,200
time I spoke with you about this in

749
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,120
October is that we we thought we were

750
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,000
ready to move through the rest of

751
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240
permitting towards construction until

752
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640
the Mass Historic Commission decided

753
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,399
that there was historical significance

754
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:57,440
and there is some record of of uh

755
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,519
historical artifacts having been found

756
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,519
there. So they came out and did some

757
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,159
review and they actually found some

758
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,960
extremely old ceramics. Um and at the

759
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
same time u at the same time the

760
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,399
consultant who did the review under Mass

761
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:16,159
Historic guidelines um was able to come

762
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:18,080
to recommendations that there was not

763
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200
any further uh not any further delay

764
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120
needed or any further involvement from

765
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,559
Mass Historic. Um, so we're waiting for

766
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,279
Mass Historic to make their final uh

767
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,440
statement on that and in the meantime

768
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,159
and and and the goal is to get our MEPA

769
00:32:34,159 --> 00:32:37,679
packet submitted. Um,

770
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:43,440
environmental review has to happen with any project that is going to impact

771
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,640
the the coastal wetlands. Um, so we're

772
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,320
we were really kind of stopped in our

773
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,559
tracks by the mass historic work and we

774
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:53,840
think we're just about ready to move

775
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480
forward again.

776
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,919
>> Mr. Mayor, I'm so sorry to interrupt

777
00:32:57,919 --> 00:32:58,640
you. I just need to

778
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,399
>> Oh, no. 7:30. Sorry.

779
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,000
>> Just pause so we can open it and then

780
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760
we'll recess it so we can hear the rest

781
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,760
of your presentation. Um, so I'm sorry

782
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,080
about that. So, as I mentioned, if you

783
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,600
were with us at the beginning, we do

784
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
have public hearings posted at certain

785
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,960
times. They need to legally we need to

786
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,039
open them at those times. So, I'm going

787
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:17,279
to open the posted public hearing for

788
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,240
7:30. This is on order 9ine. Um, this is

789
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,159
the community preservation committee out

790
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:25,519
of cycle CPA funding request. Uh, Miss

791
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,240
Kent. Order number nine, city of Beverly

792
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,440
ordered that the city council of the

793
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,039
city of Beverly hold a public hearing on

794
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:34,320
Tuesday, January 20th at 2025 at 7:30

795
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,960
p.m. 191 Cab Street, third floor.

796
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,799
Council chambers relative to the

797
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,399
community preservation committee out of

798
00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,960
cycle CPA funding recommendations.

799
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,799
requests for CPA funding for

800
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,480
Independence Park renovations and this

801
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,480
was in the newspaper on January 9th.

802
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,159
>> Thank you, Miss Kent. Councilors, I

803
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:51,760
would entertain a motion to recess this

804
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,760
hearing to 7:40.

805
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,440
>> All those in favor?

806
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,360
>> That carries 90. So, we'll pick that

807
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,159
back up at 7:40. And if there are folks

808
00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:01,760
here who wish to speak in this public

809
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,679
hearing or the two to follow, those

810
00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:05,760
signup sheets are on the table uh by the

811
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,679
window over to my right, and you can get

812
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,119
up at any point and add your name to

813
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,200
those for public comment. Um, thank you,

814
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,879
Mr. Mayor. I apologize. Thank you, Madam

815
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:15,200
President. So, like Ober Park, Lynch

816
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,760
Park is is kind of in the same space on

817
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480
permitting. Uh, as as those of you who

818
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,919
have been kind of working this with us

819
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:24,800
know, um, these are two two of our

820
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,520
coastal parks, two of our gems that have

821
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,079
erosion in the case of Ober and flooding

822
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,119
in the case of Lynch Park concerns. Um

823
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,240
we in each case we got initial grants

824
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,480
from the state to assess the

825
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,720
vulnerability and the feasibility of

826
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:45,520
certain treatments or certain solutions.

827
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,679
We have gone after additional grant

828
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,560
funding for each a couple of times and

829
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,440
we have not secured funding on either of

830
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,679
those rounds. And what has hurt us in

831
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,160
each instance is that while these well

832
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640
while they're valuable to us and they're

833
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,280
valuable to a lot of people, neither of

834
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000
these parks has an adjacent residential

835
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,839
neighborhood that has been recently

836
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:10,079
flooded in an awful storm like a lot of

837
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,400
other places both coastal and inland in

838
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,400
the state. So that you know the the

839
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,839
money that's been available has gone to

840
00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:17,839
other applicants who need it as well.

841
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:19,920
Um, but we've been working with state

842
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000
officials and we're hoping this next

843
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,320
goround on grant funds uh we'll have

844
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440
some some better luck. You folks have

845
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,680
supported and CPA has supported some

846
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,520
combination of of CPA funds and um um

847
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,680
free cash at various points to keep

848
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,000
these projects going. Uh and as you can

849
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,880
see we're we're also with Lynch Park

850
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,520
right at the point of uh of MEPA filing.

851
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,680
We had our pre-filing meeting with uh

852
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,440
with the MEEPA team last about a week

853
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,599
and a half ago. Uh and moving forward

854
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,160
with that and I that's that was the last

855
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,480
one anyway. So sorry that it's taken

856
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,920
this long.

857
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,440
>> Happy to try to answer a question or

858
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,079
two.

859
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,160
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. Uh so

860
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,440
counselors, we do have about five

861
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,280
minutes for some questions. Obviously,

862
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,119
these updates from the mayor do not

863
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,119
constitute the end of the conversations

864
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,160
on these projects. And so, uh, if we

865
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000
don't get to all of our questions today,

866
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,280
there can be further conversation. Um,

867
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680
so before our hearing at 7:40, are there

868
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,760
comments or questions in the time that

869
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,670
we have?

870
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,560
» All right. Well, I guess not. Thank you

871
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400
very much, Mr. Mayor, for that update.

872
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,920
And as you mentioned, we'll look forward

873
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,520
to having you and your team back

874
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,599
regularly for those updates. Uh, they

875
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,480
are both helpful and appreciated. So, we

876
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,160
do have five minutes before we pick up

877
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,640
that hearing. So, uh, Miss Kent, let's

878
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:49,109
go into our agenda and, um,

879
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,200
actually

880
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,760
have at least one of our two speakers.

881
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Um, I know that there are two speakers

882
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,400
waiting. Uh, each speaker, this is the,

883
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,079
um, comments from residents. You can

884
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,760
sign up at a regular meeting to be able

885
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,839
to speak. There are up to five spots

886
00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:06,320
available for three minutes each. And so

887
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,079
we could I think get at least our first

888
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:12,079
speaker in um Mitchell Serovvic. And if

889
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:13,599
I'm saying your name wrong, I do. I

890
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,599
really apologize. Um I'll invite you to

891
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,440
come to the podium if you would begin

892
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,880
with your name and address for the

893
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920
record. And

894
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,320
council vice vice president St. Hillary,

895
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,720
do you have the timer now?

896
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,960
>> All right. Um so if you hear the timer

897
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,480
go off, that will be the signal that the

898
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,480
three minutes is is coming to an end. So

899
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,680
if you could just draw your remarks to a

900
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,240
close at that point. Thank you so much.

901
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,800
>> Thank you. My name is Mitchell Serovvic.

902
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,720
I live at 42 Pratt Avenue.

903
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,760
U Madame President, counselors, um I

904
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,280
guess the mayor has left. Uh good

905
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,440
evening. Uh before I start, I do want to

906
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,200
apologize if this subject has already

907
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,960
been addressed in a previous meeting. I

908
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680
wasn't able to find uh in the past

909
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,160
meeting minutes that this was or when it

910
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,079
had been uh addressed. So, just let me

911
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,320
start by saying that

912
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,280
uh recently I noticed a flock

913
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,320
surveillance camera on Brimble Avenue

914
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
that apparently has been there for

915
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,040
several months. Uh subsequently I

916
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,079
learned per uh an online surveillance

917
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,800
application dlock.me

918
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,839
that there are now at least two more at

919
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,000
least two more of these cameras. one on

920
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000
Elliot Street at the intersection of

921
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,040
McKay Street and the other on Ran Tulle

922
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,480
just before the Cabbat Street

923
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,000
intersection um before the Salem Bridge.

924
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Uh for those in attendance who are not

925
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,119
familiar uh with uh the company that

926
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,520
controls these cameras, Flock [snorts]

927
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,280
Safety is its name. It's one of the

928
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,680
largest so-called automated license

929
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,599
plate reader or LPR vendors uh in the

930
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,960
United States. LPRs are AI powered

931
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,440
cameras that capture and analyze images

932
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,720
of all passing vehicles, uh, people, or

933
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,720
whatever the camera is programmed to

934
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,680
recognize. For cars, the camera creates

935
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400
a digital fingerprint of the vehicle,

936
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,720
including license plate, make, model,

937
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:11,359
color, identifi identifying features

938
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,920
such as dents, bumper stickers, roof

939
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880
racks, uh, and of course, photos of the

940
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,480
passengers.

941
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,359
Uh vehicle features are then sent to

942
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,599
Flock and stored in a searchable

943
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,440
database.

944
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,119
Um essentially creating a digital uh

945
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:33,440
dossier of the car and its owner

946
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,920
which is updated constantly as the the

947
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,640
system receives updates. All these data

948
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,040
are collected on millions of people

949
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,480
every day across the country regardless

950
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,040
of whether the driver is suspected of a

951
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,440
crime.

952
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,760
There are many reported examples of

953
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,880
these cameras being hacked, people being

954
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
accused of crimes they didn't commit

955
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,280
because of flock data, and of police

956
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,880
extensively

957
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
misusing the data to just spy on people

958
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,280
that they don't like or to track the

959
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,680
goings of their ex-spouses, for example.

960
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Um, these examples of abuse are beside

961
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,320
the point.

962
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,160
which is that these surveillance cameras

963
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,440
are manifest violations of our

964
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,680
constitutional fourth amendment

965
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,480
protection against unreasonable search.

966
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,160
Every single photo taken by a flock

967
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,520
camera amounts to an illegal

968
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400
warrantless search by the police. Got

969
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,200
it. Thank you. Uh, these cameras have no

970
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,440
place in our community and should be

971
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,079
removed immediately. Thank you very

972
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:54,303
much.

973
00:40:54,313 --> 00:40:56,160
[applause]

974
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,400
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Servic. And I

975
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,520
should have mentioned at the beginning,

976
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520
too, that for those who are not as

977
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,720
familiar with this portion of our

978
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,960
meeting, um, it is not a part of the

979
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,560
meeting where we're having conversation

980
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,160
or asking questions back and forth with

981
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160
our speakers. But as I always like to

982
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,880
say, um it's it's always extremely

983
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,560
important still to hear from folks

984
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,319
during this time and even if we're not

985
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:17,920
able to have back and forth or ask

986
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,240
questions, what we hear is something

987
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,839
that we we consider, we take in and

988
00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:23,680
often informs future conversation of the

989
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,839
council. So, um I appreciate our

990
00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:27,359
speakers today and other speakers who

991
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,000
have come before and will come after.

992
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,760
Um, if you are interested in speaking at

993
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,680
a regular meeting in one of these spots,

994
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,599
you can sign up for these spots by

995
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,280
contacting the city clerk no later than

996
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,520
9:30 the morning of the meeting and they

997
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,920
are first come, first serve. Um, we do

998
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,920
have another speaker and I know uh she's

999
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,839
waiting very patiently. We need to open

1000
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:47,359
our public hearing now and so we'll come

1001
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:49,200
around to our second speaker as soon as

1002
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,280
we have another moment in our agenda.

1003
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,079
Um, it is 7:40 so I will reopen our

1004
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,480
public hearing on order number nine.

1005
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,880
Miss Kenda's already read the order and

1006
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,280
we do have uh Gene Delios and Derek

1007
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,680
Beckwith here from the CPC. And Mr.

1008
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Beckwith, I see you're at the podium

1009
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,599
ready to go. So, I'll turn that uh floor

1010
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:08,960
over to you. Thank you.

1011
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,880
>> Thank Thank you very much, Madame

1012
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,359
President and counselors, including our

1013
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:16,640
newest counselors. Um the uh hopefully

1014
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,000
over time um you'll uh get to know a lot

1015
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,160
of what the CPC is all about and what

1016
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880
we're doing. And tonight um I'm very

1017
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,760
proud to represent the committee um with

1018
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,440
an outofcycle um application um that we

1019
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,079
received. We reviewed it very carefully

1020
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,720
over two different meetings um explored

1021
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,079
the budget um the uh all the different

1022
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,480
particulars and logistics and

1023
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,800
unanimously approved it at our December

1024
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,599
meeting um for your review. In a

1025
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,079
nutshell, the [clears throat] uh the

1026
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:53,040
project is for the independent park

1027
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,440
renovations. Um the applicant being the

1028
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,240
city of Beverly itself.

1029
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,520
um provides overall the project costs

1030
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,760
$346,000

1031
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,240
and we voted for 200 to recommend

1032
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:07,760
$200,000

1033
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,280
in CPC um budget for the purpose of

1034
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,599
recre under the category of recreation

1035
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:17,280
for rehabilitation and restoration of

1036
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,240
Independence Park. Um the project

1037
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,760
includes

1038
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,040
uh I'm going to just quickly go through

1039
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,960
uh the uh um the pieces here. Um we'll

1040
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,599
add adjacent to the sidewalk walk on

1041
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,079
Lother Street an overlook terrace

1042
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:37,280
approximately 48 ft long and 8 1/2 ft

1043
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,640
wide. um leading to a new stairway with

1044
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,119
wider stairs and railings and added uh

1045
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:46,880
landscaping um that will lead to um the

1046
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,880
place uh right now where the cannons,

1047
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,960
the existing stone and monument um

1048
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:57,200
remain. Um the uh an ADA accessible path

1049
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520
um which is new for this u this park

1050
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,640
will be added uh to connect the regraded

1051
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,000
half of the walkway um from

1052
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,359
uh Wilson Avenue um to uh to provide uh

1053
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:14,480
ADA access to uh the monument itself.

1054
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,400
Additionally, um 14 new benches uh with

1055
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,280
new pads and um that will include that

1056
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,280
are ADA accessible will allow um every

1057
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,839
um person who would like to visit and

1058
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:29,839
spend time at the park the opportunity

1059
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:31,839
to be there and overlook this historic

1060
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:36,400
site. Um so um the uh the vote was

1061
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,839
unanimous. Um the other uh sources of

1062
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:41,520
funding for the project include a

1063
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,359
Massachusetts Office of Travel and

1064
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:47,119
Tourism grant of $60,000 which has a

1065
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:51,520
deadline um for use of the money um in

1066
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,400
uh I think it's by June 30th which is

1067
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,880
the reason for this being an outofcycle

1068
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,760
grant so that the project could be built

1069
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,280
using these funds the the M funds um we

1070
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,240
need to accelerate the regular timing of

1071
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:09,200
our funding ing cycle um to enable this

1072
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,680
to happen. Additionally, the Rotary um

1073
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Club of Beverly um is uh donating

1074
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,359
$20,000 to the cause and the Beverly 400

1075
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:23,200
um uh organization has put in another

1076
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,599
$5,000. So, funding comes from multiple

1077
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:29,040
sources. CPA funds um only make up

1078
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
57.72%

1079
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,079
um which is a really good ratio um for

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00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,839
use. Uh, so we strongly recommend the

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00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:40,000
project. We hope you approve it and if

1082
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,839
you have any questions here to try to

1083
00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:42,640
answer.

1084
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,119
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Beckwith. Uh,

1085
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,200
councilors, are there any questions for

1086
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:55,030
Mr. Beckwith at this time?

1087
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,319
Council Husman, you looked thoughtful,

1088
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:58,079
so I didn't know if you were conjuring

1089
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,400
up a question. You're you are not. Okay.

1090
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,720
Uh there are no members of the public

1091
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,560
signed up on the on the sheet to speak

1092
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,839
in this public hearing, but are there

1093
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:07,280
members of the public here who wish to

1094
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920
speak in the public hearing on the um

1095
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,359
community preservation committee's out

1096
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:13,680
of cycle CPA funding recommendation

1097
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,280
which you just heard Mr. Beckwith speak

1098
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,079
about.

1099
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,400
Okay. Thank you. Uh thank you Mr.

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00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Beckwith. Seeing no other comments, I'm

1101
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,960
going to close that public hearing and

1102
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,480
we'll refer that back to the committee

1103
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,079
on finance and property for further

1104
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:32,079
action this evening. Um, we do have time

1105
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,800
before our next hearing posted at 7:50.

1106
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,319
So, let's have our next resident

1107
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:38,800
speaker. Um, and for both of our

1108
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,000
resident speakers, of course, you're

1109
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,359
welcome to remain with us for the

1110
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:42,960
entirety of the meeting, but this way

1111
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,599
also you have flexibility to leave and

1112
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,280
not be with us all evening if you don't

1113
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,480
wish to. Um if you also begin name and

1114
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,800
address for the record and then if you

1115
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,640
hear Vice President St. Hillary's timer

1116
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,000
go off if you would drag your remarks to

1117
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,560
a close at that time. Thank you. Good

1118
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,000
evening counselors and happy new term.

1119
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,079
Um my name is Aisha Sadiki. I live in

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00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:07,359
Ward 3. My address is on file. Tonight I

1121
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:10,000
have two requests in my three minutes.

1122
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Request number one. This is a continuing

1123
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,240
petition from 2025. I asked the council

1124
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,160
to adopt reading a land acknowledgement

1125
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,319
at the start of council meetings and

1126
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,480
until that happens I and other members

1127
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,400
of the Beverly Social Justice Book Club

1128
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,599
will be happy to do so.

1129
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,079
This meeting takes place on unseated

1130
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:33,200
ancestral lands of the of the nomagg and

1131
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,960
potucket bands of the Massachusetts

1132
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,800
tribe from whom the Commonwealth of

1133
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Massachusetts took its name. With deep

1134
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
respect and gratitude, we acknowledge

1135
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,520
the indigenous caretakers of these lands

1136
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,599
and waters who have lived here for

1137
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:52,880
thousands of years and who live here in diverse indigenous communities today.

1138
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,280
Fun fact, that statement is what the

1139
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,800
city's human rights committee reads at

1140
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,800
their meetings, and it's also what our

1141
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,480
book club read at the city's Martin

1142
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,400
Luther King Jr. breakfast yesterday

1143
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,480
morning.

1144
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,119
Request number two,

1145
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,760
I ask the city council to take local

1146
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,400
initiative while our state legislators

1147
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,119
consider the safe safe communities act,

1148
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:18,640
which is House Bill H.2580

1149
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,640
and Senate Bill S.1681.

1150
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,800
The council could formally state its

1151
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,119
opposition to any potential agreements

1152
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,200
between the Beverly Police Department

1153
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,040
and ICE.

1154
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Beverly could follow in the footsteps of

1155
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,200
the Worcester City Council, who on

1156
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,160
September 30th of 2025 voted on

1157
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,200
resolution 13B, which reads

1158
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,960
that the city council of the city of

1159
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,040
Worcester does hereby oppose the

1160
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,400
pursuit, exploration, or or entering

1161
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,520
into a 287G task force model agreement

1162
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,520
with US Immigration and Customs

1163
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,240
Enforcement or any other agreement or

1164
00:48:58,240 --> 00:48:59,839
arrangement that gives federal

1165
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:01,520
immigration powers to Worcester

1166
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,480
officials.

1167
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,359
Tonight, I ask the council to stand with

1168
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,280
immigrants,

1169
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,599
with people of color,

1170
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,359
with everyone being targeted and

1171
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:16,480
profiled, and make it known that Beverly

1172
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,359
is a welcoming and inclusive city where

1173
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:22,599
all me

1174
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:23,254
[panting and gasps]

1175
00:49:23,254 --> 00:49:24,400
[snorts]

1176
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,200
where all members of our community feel

1177
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:34,710
safe.

1178
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,720
You should all have an email from me

1179
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,000
that hit your inboxes just moments ago.

1180
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,480
It includes resource links for you to

1181
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,160
learn more about the ICE 287G program,

1182
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,319
the states the state's legisl state

1183
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:51,119
legislators safe communities act and the

1184
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,760
Worcester city council's resolution.

1185
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,599
Thank you for your service, your

1186
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:05,030
commitment and good evening.

1187
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,880
Thank you very much and thank you also

1188
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,960
for your patience and your flexibility.

1189
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,119
I know for speakers when you sign up it can always be a variable when you'll

1190
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,599
get to speak and um thank you to both of

1191
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,319
you for being here with us and for your

1192
00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:21,920
words as well.

1193
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,720
Um we are at 7:50 so we will open our

1194
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:29,920
next public hearing. Uh this is a public

1195
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,800
hearing posted for order number 10 a

1196
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,800
loan authorization that we'll be

1197
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,640
considering. U Miss Kent if you would

1198
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,359
read the order.

1199
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:39,119
>> Order number 10. City of Beverly ordered

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00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,480
that the city council of the city of

1201
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Beverly hold a public hearing on

1202
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,440
Tuesday, January 20th, 2026 at 7:50 p.m.

1203
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,680
at 191 Cabin Street, 3rd floor, council

1204
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,599
chambers relative to the city

1205
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:54,150
appropriates the sum of $25,895,000

1206
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,160
to pay costs of renovating the city hall

1207
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,760
and former police station annex,

1208
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,000
including the cost of tempor temporary

1209
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
relocation of city hall during

1210
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,760
construction and all the costs

1211
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,839
incidental and related there too. and

1212
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:07,440
that to meet this appropriation, the

1213
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,960
treasurer with the approval of the mayor

1214
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,119
is authorized to borrow set amount and

1215
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:13,839
pursuant to general law chapter 44

1216
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:16,640
section 71 or any other enabling

1217
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,559
authority and to issue bonds or notes of

1218
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,480
the city. Therefore, the mayor is

1219
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,160
authorized to take any other action

1220
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,240
necessary to carry out this project,

1221
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:25,920
including but not limited to applying

1222
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,920
for, accepting, and expending any and

1223
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,680
all grants that may be available for the

1224
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,760
project. And this is published in the

1225
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,079
newspaper on January 9th.

1226
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,760
Thank you very much, Miss Kent. Um,

1227
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,040
Mr. Mayor, I know that you're at the

1228
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,119
podium ready to go. I will just mention

1229
00:51:41,119 --> 00:51:43,200
that for those who may have uh been

1230
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,599
joining us or are perhaps watching on

1231
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,440
Bevcam but are interested in this public

1232
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000
hearing and are um heading down here,

1233
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,680
there is a signup sheet for those

1234
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,960
members of the public who wish to speak

1235
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,800
in this public hearing. It can be found

1236
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,599
on the table um over to my right by the

1237
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,680
window by the the other door of the

1238
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,359
council chamber. you are welcome to get

1239
00:52:01,359 --> 00:52:03,359
up at any point and go over and add your

1240
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:05,520
name to that. You don't have to wait for

1241
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,280
a certain time if you are member of the

1242
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,960
public here waiting to speak. And we

1243
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,119
will take public comment um in [snorts]

1244
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,480
the order that folks are signed up when

1245
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,640
we come to that part of this public

1246
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,559
hearing. I did want to mention at the

1247
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:17,680
beginning of the meeting, I was uh

1248
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680
remissed in not mentioning that our

1249
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,280
state representative Hannah Bowen is

1250
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,559
also here with us this evening. Thank

1251
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,000
you very much, Representative Bowen.

1252
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,880
It's nice to see you. Um and Mr. Mayor,

1253
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,400
we'll turn things over to you. Thank

1254
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,880
you. Thanks, Madam President. Thank you,

1255
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,640
members of the council. Tonight's public

1256
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960
hearing is on my administration's

1257
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,359
request for project budget approval for

1258
00:52:37,359 --> 00:52:39,760
the Beverly City Hall renovation and

1259
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,640
addition project. This is a project on

1260
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,160
which we have presented to the city

1261
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,559
council several times over the past

1262
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,200
nearly four years. This is a project for

1263
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,240
which the city council appropriated $1.5

1264
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:55,599
million in March of 2022

1265
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,680
so that we could hire a an owner's

1266
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,599
project management firm and

1267
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,839
architectural design firm and work

1268
00:53:01,839 --> 00:53:04,240
through a feasibility study, needs

1269
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,880
assessment, and schematic design phases

1270
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
of this project.

1271
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,359
We have successfully stretched this

1272
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:13,440
initial appropriation greatly and

1273
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,920
achieved significantly more work hiring

1274
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,079
on the construction management firm and

1275
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:19,920
working through both the earlier project

1276
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,559
phase phases as well as through the

1277
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,359
design development phase. This project

1278
00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:28,160
will represent city hall's first major

1279
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,280
renovations since 1935

1280
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,800
almost 100 years. The existing city hall

1281
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,200
building will undergo si significant

1282
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,599
renovations. The former police station

1283
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,920
annex will be demolished and a new

1284
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,079
two-story building constructed on the

1285
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,040
existing foundation. A second Americans

1286
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,040
with Disabilities Act compliant building

1287
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,119
entrance will be added from the parking

1288
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:53,920
lot. A second elevator will be installed

1289
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,079
and the whole building will be made ADA

1290
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,880
compliant. Three city departments will

1291
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,119
be brought back to city hall. Two of

1292
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,280
these public health and inspectional

1293
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,440
services will be brought back for the

1294
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,079
first time in many years. Bringing these

1295
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:09,839
departments back to city hall will help

1296
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,319
in many ways, including giving back

1297
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:14,240
greatly needed space at the senior

1298
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,800
center to our council on aging for the

1299
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,359
benefit of Beverly's fast growing senior

1300
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:21,040
population.

1301
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,200
This city hall project will bring vast

1302
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,200
improvements to the working conditions

1303
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,720
for our city staff. Today in city hall,

1304
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:30,640
we have two meeting rooms. When the

1305
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,359
project is complete, we will have seven.

1306
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:35,920
Today, we have seven toilets in four

1307
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,240
bathrooms. When the project is complete,

1308
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,200
we will have 14 bathrooms. All handicap

1309
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,839
accessible, all single use, meaning one

1310
00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:47,200
toilet, one sink, and a lockable door.

1311
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,119
Today, we have no mother's room

1312
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,119
available at city hall. When this

1313
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:52,720
project is complete, we will have a

1314
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,520
dedicated mother's room. Today, we have

1315
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,680
no small individual private rooms for

1316
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,000
staff needs. When this project is

1317
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,240
complete, we will have four small phone

1318
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:04,800
or Zoom meeting rooms available to our

1319
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,520
staff when their office suite workspaces

1320
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,040
cannot provide the quiet and

1321
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,760
confidentiality a phone conversation or

1322
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,720
remote meeting requires. This project

1323
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,200
will replace very substandard HVAC

1324
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,200
systems throughout the existing city

1325
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,440
hall building with highquality air

1326
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,440
source electric heating and cooling

1327
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,839
systems in both the existing city hall

1328
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:27,920
and the new annex.

1329
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,000
This project will create climate

1330
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,240
controlled storage space in the basement

1331
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:35,280
of the former police station annex. We

1332
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,359
have spoken many times about the

1333
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:39,760
importance of dedicating a percentage of

1334
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,680
our annual operating budget to debt

1335
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,000
service. A healthy, well-managed

1336
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,280
community needs to maintain, improve,

1337
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,480
and replace its assets on a schedule. It

1338
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,799
needs to issue debt, make regular

1339
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:54,720
payments to service and eventually

1340
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,960
retire that debt, and then issue new

1341
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,920
debt for the next capital project. The

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00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,720
city of Beverly owns eight schools, 16

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00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:05,839
municipal buildings, two water tanks, a

1344
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:08,160
whole inventory of storm water, drinking

1345
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,400
water, and sewage pump stations and

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,920
pipes, over 150 miles of roads, many

1347
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,319
signalized intersections, and over two

1348
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:19,680
dozen parks and beaches. We maintain and

1349
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,799
update a draft capital plan annually. We

1350
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,960
plan carefully and we need to make the

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,359
investments our city's assets require.

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00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:31,200
Tonight's city hall project budget

1353
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,839
proposal asks the city council to

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00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:36,240
approve a project budget that will

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00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:38,880
require 5% of our city's operating

1356
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040
budget be spent to service debt

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,559
prospectively.

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00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,480
And while best practices would likely

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00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,400
have us spend a higher percentage on

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,559
debt service, and in the past we have

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00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:50,559
spent a higher percentage, as many of

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00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:52,720
you well know, we are very mindful

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00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,480
tonight of budget challenges that both

1364
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,839
the city and our taxpayers are facing.

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00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,680
To those who are concerned with our

1366
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
reported operating budget challenges,

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00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,920
let me share with you an excerpt from my

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00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,280
inaugural address this past January 5th.

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,760
These are challenging times. We the

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00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,760
elected officials in this great city

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00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
have been chosen to lead during these

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00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,079
challenging times. Our job is

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00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:18,880
straightforward and that is to deliver

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,200
highquality city services and

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,119
outstanding publication, public

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00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:26,640
education for our residents to maintain,

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,520
protect and improve our infrastructure,

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,480
our buildings, vehicles, water, storm

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,280
water, sewer, roads and sidewalks. And

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00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,119
while our job is straightforward, it is

1381
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,160
not easy. Yet, this is the job and we

1382
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,960
will succeed at it. The city's recent

1383
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,280
annual financial forecasting process

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,599
highlighted some financial challenges as

1385
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,079
we move forward. When we look ahead to

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00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,760
next fiscal year's city operating

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,160
budget, which will start six months from

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00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,119
now on July 1st, our projected revenues

1389
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,720
fall well short of our projected

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00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,400
expenditures. I will note that this is

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,359
what happens every year, every year that

1392
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:07,119
I've been around when the financial

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00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,760
forecasting process is undertaken and

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,079
it's undertaken early so that we all

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00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:15,520
have the the time and the wherewithal to

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00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,280
really dig into our budget efforts and

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00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,040
make sure that we balance our budget

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,359
which is our obligation under under the

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00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:22,960
charter and the state constitution and

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00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,990
one that we meet every year.

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,000
So, it is our responsibility to build

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00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,400
and pass a balanced budget, and we will.

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,400
Every year together, we balance the many

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,119
needs and challenges our city faces, and

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00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:38,960
we pass a budget that delivers

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,839
outstanding, highquality services, that

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00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:44,000
invests in our infrastructure needs, and

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,760
that sets aside money for our future

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,160
needs. Together, again this year, we

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00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,160
will pass a balanced budget, and we will

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,400
move our community forward by delivering

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,799
outstanding highquality education and

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00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:56,559
city services.

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00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,559
Since nothing we do is likely to cost

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00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,280
less next year, this will require us to

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00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,040
find and implement additional

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,960
efficiencies and how we deliver

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,960
services, something that we work at

1419
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,520
every day. This will also require more

1420
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,599
money. Money we will secure through

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00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:14,319
grants, through more state aid, through

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00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:16,400
economic investment and growth, and

1423
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,280
through local taxes. We will continue to

1424
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,359
deliver on our responsibilities to our

1425
00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:24,160
residents and taxpayers through strong

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00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
and thoughtful management. And we will

1427
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,880
continue to be measured in the burden we

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,040
ask all of us as homeowners and business

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00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,839
owners to carry to ensure delivery of

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00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:36,240
these critical local services and

1431
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,119
protection of our city's assets. In the

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00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:40,960
next half hour, you will hear from the

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,280
incredibly strong project team for this

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,760
city hall project. Collier's project

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00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,559
leaders, fineold Alexander Architects,

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00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,680
and WTri Company construction manager at

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,400
risk. [snorts] This talented team has

1438
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,640
worked incredibly hard together with our

1439
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,119
own internal city team to keep costs

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00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:02,079
down and to ensure a project that we can

1441
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:04,799
afford. This is what is being presented

1442
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:08,079
this evening. Eight years ago, the city

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01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:09,760
council approved a new police station

1444
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,799
project budget for about $29 million.

1445
01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:14,559
Now, eight years after our new police

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01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,799
station, we are asking for the same

1447
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:19,440
amount of money for this project. The

1448
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440
police station in city hall would be

1449
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,680
comparablesiz buildings. The police

1450
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,319
station was all new construction built

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01:00:26,319 --> 01:00:29,040
at precoid costs. And while it required

1452
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,440
no budget for temporary office space, it

1453
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,200
invested more money up front for

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,599
geothermal infrastructure.

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01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:37,920
City Hall proposes a combination of

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,720
renovation and new construction. It will

1457
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,960
be built at postcoid 2026 and 27 costs

1458
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,960
and it does require temporary office

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01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,960
space. And while there are differences,

1460
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,359
I think this is a relevant data point to

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01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:55,040
consider. We can preserve and vastly

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,680
improve Beverly City Hall as our home of

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01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,760
local government for both our community

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01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,559
and our city staff for the next century

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01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,480
for the same price that we built our new

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,640
police station eight years and a

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,599
pandemic ago. We know this proposed city

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01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,680
hall renovation addition is greatly

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01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,400
needed and we know it is both responsive

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,240
and responsible

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01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,799
and responsive to our community's needs.

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01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:20,400
Thank you for listening. Now I'll turn

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,559
over to Joe Riley with our owners

1474
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:34,150
project manager collers.

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Good evening. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,000
Thank you for the introduction as well

1477
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,559
as the opportunity to be here with all

1478
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,440
of you here this evening. My name is Joe

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01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,880
Riley. I am with Kier's project leaders.

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01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,400
We are an owners project management

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01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,440
firm. I'm a senior director for the

1482
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,160
organization. I have here with me today

1483
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,760
my colleague Maria Anna Hateliatus, our

1484
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,440
project manager sitting in the front

1485
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,000
row. We are also going to introduce you

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,319
to uh Fineold Alexander Architects as

1487
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:10,640
well as uh our construction manager at

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01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,400
risk WT Rich. This team as the mayor had

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01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,440
indicated is a great team. We have been

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01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,760
working diligently for the last several

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01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,760
years with the introduction of the

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,480
construction manager over the last six

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01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,240
to eight months.

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01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,119
We have a relationship with all of our

1495
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:31,200
team members have worked on other

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,359
projects together. We are currently

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01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:35,359
supporting the city, the mayor and the

1498
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:38,079
mayor's team on the McFersonen Youth

1499
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:41,040
Center project. So with that, I'm going

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,079
to ask the architect to move forward

1501
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:51,349
with the design presentation.

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01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:52,960
» Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,079
And thank you, members of the city

1504
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:57,200
council. My name is David Lightiteman.

1505
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,480
I'm an

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,400
architect with Fineold Alexander. Um

1507
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,079
we've had the privilege of uh presenting

1508
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:03,920
to you numerous times um in the past

1509
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,559
several years. And so I'm happy to um

1510
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:08,079
give you an update of where the project

1511
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:10,640
currently stands. Um and but first I

1512
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,880
want to talk about really why this

1513
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,280
project is happening. Um the mayor made

1514
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,039
a couple of points about this, but but

1515
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:19,839
I'll I'll I'll um reiterate some some of

1516
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,240
these. First of all, the building hasn't

1517
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,039
u been renovated in over 90 years. Um

1518
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,039
with that, there are failing systems and

1519
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:29,359
infrastructure. Um first, there is um

1520
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,280
inefficient heating and there is no

1521
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,119
cooling through the building. Um there

1522
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,720
is some structural beams that are

1523
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,280
rotting from previous insect infestation

1524
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,880
throughout the building. We see life

1525
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,960
safety and code comp um compliance

1526
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,039
issues such as no proper fire

1527
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:45,119
suppression system and the building is

1528
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:46,559
not fully accessible for those who need

1529
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,200
it. Um, furthermore, there's numerous

1530
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,559
inefficiencies of of use of the space um

1531
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:54,880
that doesn't meet the needs of of a 21st

1532
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,039
century city hall. And one um benefit of

1533
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:01,200
being being that we have the abandoned

1534
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,280
police station next door is that we can

1535
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,160
utilize that space to um accommodate the

1536
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,960
needs of city hall.

1537
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,880
And when we think about the annex, one

1538
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,839
major um issue currently is that where

1539
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:16,240
the two buildings meet, the floor levels

1540
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,359
do not align. Um and with that, we think

1541
01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,200
that by reconstructing the building, we

1542
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,920
can ensure that there's equal levels at

1543
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,359
each floor. Uh furthermore, we want to

1544
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,920
retain the existing foundation and that

1545
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,480
does three things for us. One is it

1546
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,559
minimizes parking loss, which we know is

1547
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,960
really important to the city. Second is

1548
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,880
it limits disturbances to the historic

1549
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,760
cemetery just north of of the property.

1550
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,079
And third, it saves on value of the work

1551
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:46,814
of the new foundation.

1552
01:04:46,814 --> 01:04:48,160
[clears throat] Now, I'm going to um go

1553
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,760
over some of the project benefits. Some

1554
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,079
of these again um the mayor has

1555
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:54,480
highlighted. Um there are numerous

1556
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,920
departments that are not within city

1557
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,079
hall. Three of which are the retirement

1558
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:00,640
inspectional services and the health uh

1559
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,359
health department. Um, by expanding city

1560
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:05,119
hall and renovating, we can accommodate

1561
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,200
them within this roof. Um, and that

1562
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,520
would bring about a 25% more staff

1563
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,760
seats. Furthermore, the building is not

1564
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,319
fully accessible. The historic entrance

1565
01:05:14,319 --> 01:05:16,799
along Cabbat Street is, but the rear

1566
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:19,760
entrance is not. So, in this um

1567
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,680
proposal, the rear entrance would be

1568
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,559
fully accessible. Currently, none of the

1569
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:26,960
um service counters where the public can

1570
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,799
engage with departments are fully

1571
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:30,319
accessible. In this case, every

1572
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:32,000
department that has a service counter

1573
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,480
would be. Furthermore, uh there's only

1574
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,720
seven um toilets throughout the the

1575
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,039
building of which there are none no

1576
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,359
public restrooms on the third floor. Um

1577
01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:43,760
our proposal provides 14. So there's

1578
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,240
restrooms on every single floor of which

1579
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,200
50% of those would be fully accessible.

1580
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,119
Furthermore, there's only two meeting

1581
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:53,599
spaces. We're in one of them. Um and

1582
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:55,200
this proposal, there'll be seven. Again,

1583
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,440
there'll be one on every floor. There's

1584
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,440
numerous other u benefits but one thing

1585
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,960
I do want to highlight is that the

1586
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,359
mechanical systems as stated the

1587
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:05,280
mechanical systems currently are are

1588
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,839
ineffective inefficient um and there'll

1589
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:09,599
be new systems for heating and cooling

1590
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,400
throughout the project um and all of

1591
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,400
those systems would be electric and

1592
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,240
working with our engineers uh we

1593
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,640
anticipate a energy use intensity

1594
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,960
reduction of about 40% per square foot

1595
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,760
of energy use.

1596
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,240
Uh taking a step back looking at the um

1597
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,720
proposed site plan. Um one element is

1598
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,880
that we are preserving the park space on

1599
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,520
the corner of Thorn Dyke and Cabat. Um

1600
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,520
and then as I mentioned, we're doing our

1601
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,319
best to minimize um parking um

1602
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:40,799
reductions. Um we will be reducing by

1603
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:44,319
three spaces to 30 parking spaces. Um,

1604
01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:45,839
and I do want to highlight that in the

1605
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:48,640
reconstructed annex, we are um directly

1606
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,960
matching the existing footprint except

1607
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:57,109
for a small sliver, if I may,

1608
01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:59,440
along the south side facing the parking

1609
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,960
lot. And that um is spec specifically

1610
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,799
intentional in terms of that that we'll

1611
01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:06,640
be able to create a strong connection

1612
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,960
between the historic city hall and the

1613
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,680
annex. And without that um the building

1614
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,160
wouldn't be able to operate as a unified

1615
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,960
um cohesive space.

1616
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,720
Here on um as I go through the floor

1617
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,720
plans I want to identify that um the

1618
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,119
walls shown in gray are existing to

1619
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,760
remain while those shown in black are

1620
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,440
new so you have a sense of where the

1621
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,680
interventions are. Um one things a

1622
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,839
couple things I want to highlight is the

1623
01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:35,039
new elevator and stair in the annex that

1624
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:37,119
will traverse all four levels including

1625
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:39,680
the basement. Um furthermore on this

1626
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,160
floor we'll have three meeting spaces um

1627
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,319
of which currently there are none on

1628
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:46,559
that level. Um additionally all the

1629
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,200
restrooms are individual lockable

1630
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,440
genderneutral restrooms on levels one

1631
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,119
and two. They'll be there'll be four

1632
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:54,640
respectively.

1633
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:56,400
And then um finally I want to call out

1634
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,760
the staff um call rooms. Again, these

1635
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,480
are individual rooms for staff to have

1636
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,400
private phone calls or virtual meetings

1637
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,880
when um the noise levels of their open

1638
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,640
office environment doesn't um allow them

1639
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,559
to do so.

1640
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,160
Moving up to the second floor, many

1641
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,079
elements of this floor are very similar

1642
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:15,920
to below. Um one thing I want to

1643
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,759
highlight is the staff break room.

1644
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:20,159
Currently, the staff have to go down to

1645
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:25,040
the basement to utilize the amenities of the break room. um by incorporating

1646
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,719
the staff break room on a floor where

1647
01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:29,759
the staff are mostly present um will

1648
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:32,080
enable them to utilize these spaces more

1649
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,159
efficiently. And just off this break

1650
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:37,359
room, we will have the mother's room.

1651
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,279
And moving up to level three, I want to

1652
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,920
note that the annex here um is really

1653
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,920
just where the stair and elevator tower

1654
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,799
come up to meet this level. Um the space

1655
01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:48,480
that we're in, the council chambers will

1656
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:50,960
very much remain in its footprint with

1657
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:55,600
um minor um finish improvements. Um also

1658
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,679
the same would apply to the mayor suite.

1659
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:00,000
On this level, we'll be providing six

1660
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,000
individual gender neutral neutral

1661
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,080
restrooms to accommodate the assembly

1662
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,359
needs of this space.

1663
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:08,960
Jumping down to the basement, I want to

1664
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,719
highlight the department storage space.

1665
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,880
This is a purpose-built department

1666
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,799
departmental storage for all the

1667
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:16,640
departments to house their documents,

1668
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,560
artifacts, important documents that need

1669
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,679
to be retained by state law etc. Um and

1670
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:23,600
this space will be properly conditioned

1671
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,560
as their current um storage space is not

1672
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,319
that means temperature and humidity

1673
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:30,000
control to ensure that the documents are

1674
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,920
properly preserved. Um, in the middle of

1675
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,560
the space there will be a um archival

1676
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,480
vault and that is specifically for

1677
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,199
sensitive public record storage as well

1678
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:41,279
as um some archival documents that the

1679
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,839
city has.

1680
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:45,839
Uh, taking another step back, the next

1681
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:47,600
few slides will be various images of the

1682
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,520
exterior of the building. Um, I want to

1683
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,520
highlight that in the annex there will

1684
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,520
be a three-story portion of where the

1685
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,679
elevator and stairs are to connect to

1686
01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:59,120
the historic city hall. um the height of

1687
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,920
that um three-story portion will align

1688
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,600
with the historic city hall. So it will

1689
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,840
not be any taller than the existing

1690
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:07,520
building and then the remainder of the

1691
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,719
annex will be uh two floors. Um in this

1692
01:10:10,719 --> 01:10:13,360
view I also want to um call attention to

1693
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,880
the ramp um adjacent to the parking lot.

1694
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,040
Again we will enable that the rear

1695
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,800
entrance is fully accessible for those

1696
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,760
who need it. And here's a view from the

1697
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,080
north from the cemetery side. Again,

1698
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,000
that footprint that footprint of the

1699
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,480
annex will not change to be respectful

1700
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:34,080
to the conditions of of the cemetery.

1701
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,760
Uh, and here's a view from the parking

1702
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,040
lot from Thorndikeke Street. Um, this is

1703
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,679
really an um a view of the materiality

1704
01:10:41,679 --> 01:10:43,199
of the building. We'll be cladding the

1705
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,520
south facade in brick to harmonize it

1706
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,480
with the existing city hall. Um, this

1707
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,040
building will function and um operate as

1708
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,199
one building and so utilizing a similar

1709
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:55,760
material will enable that.

1710
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400
However, on the south facade, uh I'm

1711
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,920
sorry, on the north facade facing the

1712
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:01,920
cemetery, um this will be clad in a

1713
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,400
fiber cement sighting, um this does two

1714
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,239
things. One is it connects its

1715
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:08,000
architectural materials with the

1716
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,080
neighboring uh residential community

1717
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,560
beyond. And then second, it's really for

1718
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,239
cost savings. Um by utilizing uh if we

1719
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,159
had gone with by utilizing fiberment

1720
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,400
sighting, we saved the project over

1721
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,960
$280,000.

1722
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,560
And then I want to leave you here with

1723
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,040
some views of the elevations showing the

1724
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,760
massing scale and proportions and how

1725
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,199
we're trying to harmonize the window

1726
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:34,239
pattern with the existing building.

1727
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:36,800
And here on the um the rear of the

1728
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,800
building where we fiberment sighting.

1729
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,640
Thank you. I'm now going to pass it over

1730
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,360
to uh the um the construction managers

1731
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,679
at the WTri team.

1732
01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:46,880
>> Thank you. And this is a good

1733
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,640
opportunity as you're passing the baton.

1734
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,040
We just need to pause to open the 810

1735
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,640
hearing and then we'll recess that so we

1736
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,640
can continue here. Uh so we do have an

1737
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,360
810 public hearing posted on order. Uh

1738
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,760
this is order 10A. It's connected to

1739
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,480
this public hearing. Um Miss Kent, if

1740
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:03,600
you read the order.

1741
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,600
>> Order 10A. City of Beverly ordered that

1742
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,199
the city council of the city of Beverly

1743
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:08,480
hold a public hearing on Tuesday,

1744
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,840
January 20th at 2026 at 8:10 p.m. 191

1745
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,920
Cabin Street, third floor council

1746
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,840
chambers relative to the city transfer

1747
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,840
the sum of $2 million from the city's

1748
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,480
depth stabilization fund to pay cost of

1749
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:22,000
renovating the city hall and former

1750
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,640
police station annex, including the cost

1751
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,800
of temporary relocation of city hall

1752
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,560
during construction and all other costs

1753
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,719
incidental and related there too. And

1754
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,719
this is in the newspaper on January 9th.

1755
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:34,320
Thank you very much, Miss Kent. Of

1756
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,280
course, order 10A is a another piece of

1757
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,600
the proposed funding mechanism for this

1758
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,280
project that we're hearing about. Uh,

1759
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,120
counselors, I would entertain a motion

1760
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,960
to recess the public hearing on order

1761
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,360
number 10A to 8:30.

1762
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,560
>> All those in favor? That carries 90. So,

1763
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,719
we'll pick that one back up at 8:30.

1764
01:12:52,719 --> 01:12:54,800
Thank you very much. And we will resume

1765
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,719
the hearing that we were in the midst of

1766
01:12:56,719 --> 01:12:58,480
on order number 10. This is the loan

1767
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,560
authorization. Thank you very much.

1768
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:08,550
>> Thank you.

1769
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,719
Good evening everyone. Uh, thank you for

1770
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:12,080
the opportunity to be here. Thank you,

1771
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,080
Mr. Mayor. And, uh, thank you the

1772
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,239
council. Uh, my name is John Rich. I'm

1773
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,800
the CEO of WT Rich Company. We're a

1774
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:20,320
construction manager. We've been in

1775
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,480
business since 1968.

1776
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,640
Uh, as you can Oh, I should click and go

1777
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,520
to the next slide. Um,

1778
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,719
I just wanted to tell you a little bit

1779
01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:32,000
about WTri Company. Um, we're one of the

1780
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,600
leading construction managers in

1781
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,920
Massachusetts. We're 100% dedicated to

1782
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,520
public building construction in

1783
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,000
Massachusetts. Um, we have extensive

1784
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,679
experience with public safety buildings,

1785
01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:44,080
town halls, municipal buildings. Uh,

1786
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,199
very deep experience uh with historic

1787
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,199
restorations and historic renovations

1788
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,520
similar to this project. Uh, and we

1789
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,960
really have great working relationships

1790
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,840
with uh with the project team here um

1791
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,520
with Fine Gold Alexander. We've done

1792
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,880
several projects and we're working with

1793
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,800
Collers on this and another project as

1794
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,520
well. Um, want to say just quickly about

1795
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,080
the team. We we uh most of our work is

1796
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,000
in eastern Massachusetts, east of

1797
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,600
Worcester. We have a very strong

1798
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,560
Northshore presence. Uh, we have a very

1799
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,520
strong team here including uh Dvita

1800
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,360
Flynn who's the project executive that

1801
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,199
you're going to hear from in a moment.

1802
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:21,440
Uh we also have as our lead project

1803
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:23,840
manager uh John McGonagal who's with us

1804
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,320
here tonight. Uh he's a Danvers

1805
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,920
resident. We won't hold that against him

1806
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,400
because his wife uh works in the uh

1807
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,600
Beverly Middle School as a counselor. Uh

1808
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,360
and we also our lead super who's not

1809
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,040
here

1810
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,199
uh lives a short walking distance from

1811
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:40,960
city hall here. So we really have a good

1812
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,679
strong uh nearby presence. I did want to

1813
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:46,480
also mention that um WT Rich was

1814
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,239
fortunate enough to be the construction

1815
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:50,640
manager on the Beverly police station

1816
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,199
project which the mayor spoke about. uh

1817
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:54,960
we really had a great developed a great

1818
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,960
working relationship with all aspects of

1819
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,400
the city, not only the city but also the police personnel as well. Um broke

1820
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,440
ground in in in February 2020 right at

1821
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,679
the beginning of COVID. Uh we navigated

1822
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:09,199
that project. We didn't have any bo

1823
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:10,880
budget overruns. We finished on

1824
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,280
schedule. Uh it was really a project

1825
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,320
that was uh deemed very successful. Very

1826
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,640
proud of that. And you know, we have the

1827
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,760
confidence in working with this team

1828
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,120
that we're going to deliver a great

1829
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,800
project for you. And I'm going to let

1830
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,880
Devita talk about project logistics,

1831
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,760
site logistics, and she was the um

1832
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,360
senior project manager, project

1833
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,520
executive on the Beverly Police Station

1834
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:32,239
project.

1835
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,080
>> Thank you, J.

1836
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,239
Keep that. I won't take too long with

1837
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:37,520
this because it's not really very fun,

1838
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,880
but I wanted to kind of walk everyone

1839
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,320
through it. So, as we really thought

1840
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,600
through the site logistics for this

1841
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,920
project, we wanted to prioritize safety

1842
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,080
and consistency. Uh so the site

1843
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,760
configuration that you see here today we

1844
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,440
will actually have from start to finish

1845
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:50,960
for the project really allowing

1846
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,560
residents, the local neighbors, the

1847
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,560
visitors to have consistency in how they

1848
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,040
operate around the site. Uh the sidewalk

1849
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,719
on Cabbat Street will remain open

1850
01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:00,480
throughout construction. Again, to keep

1851
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,600
that open and usable space to them. Uh

1852
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,679
the public park will also remain open to

1853
01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:06,960
the public throughout the entire

1854
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,040
duration of construction. Uh again,

1855
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,320
making sure you guys have the spaces

1856
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,960
that you're used to utilizing. Um, we

1857
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:14,320
will be protecting the historical

1858
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,560
cemetery. The what you see there right

1859
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,480
now will be the larger protection area

1860
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,560
in place during demolition of the annex

1861
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,000
building and construction at least of

1862
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,320
the exterior facade of the new building.

1863
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,840
Uh, but then we'll probably reduce that

1864
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,440
so that we don't impact too much the

1865
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:30,239
growth of the lawn and plantings around

1866
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,520
the the cemetery. Um, we will of course

1867
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,000
keep access to the IT server rooms um

1868
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,679
for the city so they can still access

1869
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:39,760
their equipment and their their needs.

1870
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,520
Um, and that is that is pretty much it.

1871
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,360
is very straightforward. Parking will

1872
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,520
be offsite. Uh, we do have specific

1873
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,120
trucking routes to minimize traffic

1874
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,880
through the neighborhoods. All things

1875
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,159
that we're happy to present in more

1876
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:51,520
detail if you guys have any questions,

1877
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,520
but just really trying to minimize the

1878
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,120
impact to the neighborhood and the

1879
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,120
surrounding community.

1880
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,679
>> Thank you.

1881
01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:01,360
>> Mayor asked me to point out one thing, a

1882
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,679
point of confusion. Construction

1883
01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:05,120
managers, we think in terms of

1884
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,719
construction cost. So that's why that

1885
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:09,679
says 21 million for the police station.

1886
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:12,719
Uh total project cost uh was 29 million

1887
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:16,560
on that includes architect OPM soft

1888
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,000
cost. There's a lot of other costs

1889
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,120
associated with it. Uh coincidentally

1890
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,199
our construction budget for the city

1891
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,520
hall project is also uh I believe right

1892
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:31,110
at uh 21 million as well.

1893
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,239
» Next up is back to Joe with Collier.

1894
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:38,870
>> Thank you. Thank you, John.

1895
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,480
» Thank you again, city council. Mr.

1896
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:43,440
Mayor, uh with respect to uh project

1897
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,000
timeline, as owners project managers,

1898
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,560
we're one of the early consultants uh

1899
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,679
that are engaged on city projects. We've

1900
01:17:51,679 --> 01:17:54,000
been on the city hall project team for

1901
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,159
the last several years, working very

1902
01:17:56,159 --> 01:17:58,000
closely with the mayor, with the mayor's

1903
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,480
team and staff. We have also been

1904
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:02,560
working very closely with our design

1905
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,239
professionals fineold Alexander through

1906
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:08,239
uh 2024

1907
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,239
wrapping up approximately in September

1908
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:13,760
of 2024. We concluded with the concept

1909
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,159
design package. That concept design

1910
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,800
package allowed us to establish uh a

1911
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
target budget. We have been working

1912
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,600
diligently since that point in time

1913
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,400
working towards a an acceptable project

1914
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,520
budget to the city uh of Beverly. To the

1915
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,679
left of the red line represents all the

1916
01:18:31,679 --> 01:18:34,239
other design milestones as well as the

1917
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:36,960
milestone of engaging the construction

1918
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,600
manager WT Rich on the project in

1919
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,400
September of 2025.

1920
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,719
We have completed design development. We

1921
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:47,440
have completed uh value management. We

1922
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:50,400
have completed a number of of cost

1923
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,320
savings measure measures and

1924
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,960
introduction into the project budget

1925
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,360
since that point in time. To the right

1926
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,520
of the project line, you'll see that we

1927
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,000
are moving forward in time with what's

1928
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,719
called construction documents. From this

1929
01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:06,960
point going forward,

1930
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,040
hopefully with the approval of of city

1931
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,800
council this evening, we'll be looking

1932
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,719
towards wrapping up construction

1933
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:16,480
documents in July of 2026. At that point

1934
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,880
in time, the construction manager will

1935
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,800
be accepting the construction documents

1936
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,199
and putting them out to bid. That will

1937
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:25,679
result in the development of a GMP,

1938
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:28,480
guaranteed maximum price.

1939
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:31,199
The anticipated construction schedule is

1940
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:34,880
September of 2026, leading us through

1941
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,360
construction into February of 2028 with

1942
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,960
an occupancy in March of 2028.

1943
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,600
Substantial completion will follow as

1944
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,000
well as the project close out for the

1945
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,149
overall project.

1946
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:54,159
Establishing the construction budget as

1947
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,719
the mayor has indicated uh John Rich has

1948
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:58,560
indicated the design team has indicated

1949
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,199
we've all been working closely

1950
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:03,440
towards establishing an acceptable total

1951
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:06,080
project budget. The costconscious

1952
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,400
mentality for the project team started

1953
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,199
with day one that is watching out for

1954
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:13,840
the taxpayers's uh interests as well as

1955
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,320
driving towards an acceptable design and

1956
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,040
an acceptable total project budget for

1957
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,000
the city hall renovation project. As we

1958
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,880
indicate uh as I indicated we've worked

1959
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,960
through several of the design phases

1960
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,520
where we are currently looking towards

1961
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,000
um completing construction documents.

1962
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,320
That costconscious mentality doesn't

1963
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,600
stop now because of an approval. It

1964
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,320
leads all the way through design and

1965
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,480
construction. We will always be looking

1966
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:45,120
at how to improve one the design, the

1967
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,360
facility as well as meeting the program

1968
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,840
and driving costs down as well as

1969
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,360
maintaining project schedule.

1970
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,400
The CM at risk WT Rich uh has been party

1971
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,880
to uh the project team since last

1972
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,800
September. They've developed a very

1973
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,280
detailed design development estimate.

1974
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:04,960
They have worked with the project team

1975
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,199
in developing a series of value

1976
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:10,560
management ideas, suggestions. We've

1977
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,960
brainstormed with the city hall staff,

1978
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,040
with the mayor, with the design

1979
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,440
professionals. We've had over 50 cost

1980
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,520
savings uh ideas that have been

1981
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,239
developed and evaluated and introduced

1982
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:24,159
into the project budget. Over a million

1983
01:21:24,159 --> 01:21:26,480
dollars in cost savings. again that

1984
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:28,080
costconscious

1985
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,400
uh driving total project budget driving

1986
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,280
cost driving schedule will always be

1987
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,960
with the project team as uh Mr. Rich uh

1988
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,920
indicated the construction cost for uh

1989
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,000
the police station the total project

1990
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,840
budget right now the cost per square

1991
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,840
foot is at a very very aggressive $553

1992
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,719
per square foot complimentary of a

1993
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:53,120
renovation project as well as a new

1994
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,360
building program.

1995
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,159
The essential uh indications that uh the

1996
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,320
design team has indicated with regard to

1997
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,080
preserving a program for city hall is u

1998
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,760
presented in the documents that we've

1999
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,960
had uh in front of us this evening and

2000
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,400
um we uh if uh all goes well be looking

2001
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,400
for city hall approval, city council

2002
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,750
approval this evening. Thank you.

2003
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,679
Now, with respect to the overall total

2004
01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:24,080
project budget,

2005
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,880
um the total project budget of $28.4

2006
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,120
million, that $28.4 million includes a

2007
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,280
number of different aspects that

2008
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,520
includes soft costs. Those are all the

2009
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,679
design professional services, the OPM

2010
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:41,280
services along with a series of uh other

2011
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,120
uh costs such as furniture, fixtures,

2012
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,760
and equipment technology. Uh there are

2013
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,840
hard costs that are incorporated into

2014
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,159
the total project budget. That's the WTR

2015
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:51,760
rich team, the construction

2016
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,000
professionals to put the bricks and

2017
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,600
sticks and the mortar in place, if you

2018
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,679
will, with an overall total project

2019
01:22:57,679 --> 01:23:01,440
budget of $29.4 million. The budget

2020
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:04,239
allocation is uh with us uh on the

2021
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:06,159
screen. That budget allocation is

2022
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:10,560
roughly 72% is towards construction.

2023
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:13,520
There's roughly 16% uh is towards what

2024
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,800
we call soft costs and then 12% is

2025
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,360
towards owners project and construction

2026
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:24,950
contingencies.

2027
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:32,550
Thank you, Brian.

2028
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,600
Uh thank you, Joe. Um

2029
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,880
for those of you that don't know me at

2030
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,400
home, I'm Brian Als. I'm the finance

2031
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,480
director here with the city. Um, so it

2032
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,480
begs the question, uh, what is before

2033
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:44,080
you in terms of authorization that we're

2034
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,600
seeking tonight and how are we going to

2035
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,800
pay for it? Um, so as Joe mentioned, the

2036
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,800
overall project cost as illustrated on

2037
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,120
this slide. Um, in terms of

2038
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,040
construction, which is we call them hard

2039
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,639
costs and then soft costs associated

2040
01:23:56,639 --> 01:23:59,199
with that, you've got your 28.395

2041
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:01,920
million. We are also carrying a budget

2042
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,560
allocation of $1 million for temporary

2043
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,560
space um, costs. So, when we vacate this

2044
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,040
building to do the rehabilitation,

2045
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,600
um, which the timeline shows about an

2046
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,760
18-month period, uh, we know we're going

2047
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,120
to have to go somewhere. We're going to

2048
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,880
have to continue to operate as an

2049
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,480
organization, do all the things we do

2050
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:21,600
here. We're just going to have to do it

2051
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,360
at a different place. So, we've set

2052
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,120
aside a million dollars in this request

2053
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,880
to cover the costs associated with that,

2054
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,000
primarily the lease costs. Um, this

2055
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,719
number was uh, developed using a rough

2056
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:35,040
estimate of two-year um, time frame.

2057
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,880
However, the construction, as pointed

2058
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,199
out earlier, uh is closer to an 18-month

2059
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:42,239
period right now. Um, of that total

2060
01:24:42,239 --> 01:24:44,880
amount needed, uh, 1.5 million has

2061
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,120
previously been appropriated in March of

2062
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,400
2022, as the mayor noted earlier. Uh,

2063
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,239
and so the resulting appropriation that

2064
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:53,679
we're seeking this evening is

2065
01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:56,870
27,895,000.

2066
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,639
And that's broken down into two separate

2067
01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:00,400
authorizations that are before you this

2068
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,000
evening. Order number 10 and order

2069
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,400
number 10 A. Is it, Mrs. Kent? Yeah, 10

2070
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,840
and 10 A. Um, so order number 10A is a

2071
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,159
transfer of $2 million from the debt

2072
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:12,400
stabilization fund. Uh, as you may

2073
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:13,760
recall for those of you that have been

2074
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,360
here, uh, or for those of you at home

2075
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,440
that watched, uh, earlier, uh, last

2076
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:19,440
year, um, we transferred some money into

2077
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:21,360
the debt stabilization fund. And we do

2078
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,280
that in anticipation of these types of

2079
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,280
large, uh, large capital, um, needs so

2080
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,480
that we can avoid, um, any spikes in in

2081
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,159
borrowing, um, schedules and things of

2082
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:33,840
that nature. So, we would look to

2083
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,920
transfer $2 million from that debt

2084
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,400
stabilization fund uh into the project

2085
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,719
and that results in the remaining bond

2086
01:25:40,719 --> 01:25:44,639
authorization of 25,895

2087
01:25:44,639 --> 01:25:46,639
uh,000 which is the other order before

2088
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:49,280
you this evening. I do want to note at

2089
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,400
the bottom of this um that even though

2090
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,320
the loan authorization is for 25,895

2091
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,679
um if approved um we would then seek to

2092
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:02,800
transfer an existing $525,000

2093
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,040
which is sitting in the FY26 budget

2094
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,199
right now and we would transfer that

2095
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,600
into the project and buy down the bond

2096
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,639
authorization. So the net maximum bond

2097
01:26:12,639 --> 01:26:16,400
amount if approved would be 25,370,000.

2098
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,320
So, that's the amount that is the

2099
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,000
ceiling of what we could potentially

2100
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,159
borrow for if approved, and that's what

2101
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:23,440
we're building our debt schedules

2102
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,360
around. Um, the other thing I want to

2103
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,880
point out in terms of the potential

2104
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,920
lease costs um that I mentioned earlier

2105
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,560
is that we currently have an RFP that is

2106
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,960
uh open uh and soliciting responses uh

2107
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,120
from landlords throughout the city. Uh,

2108
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,320
and we just recently uh extended that uh

2109
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,320
through I believe it's the next uh it's

2110
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,480
due in two and a half weeks. uh and

2111
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,920
that'll close at three weeks. Um anyway,

2112
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,440
uh so that's it for this slide. The

2113
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:53,679
next slide I want to show you is uh more

2114
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:56,239
of an illustration. So in order to

2115
01:26:56,239 --> 01:26:57,920
understand how we afford this, you've

2116
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,679
got to get an understanding of how we

2117
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:01,280
manage our debt service here in the

2118
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,760
city. And what we typically do for these

2119
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,840
larger projects is we borrow for them

2120
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,120
just like you would when you buy a house

2121
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,360
and you get a mortgage. We pay back the

2122
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,159
costs of these projects over time.

2123
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:14,639
Unlike a mortgage, we structure the debt

2124
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:16,480
differently. We structure it in a way

2125
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:20,480
where we we pay equal principal payments

2126
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:22,239
throughout the life of the borrowing.

2127
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:24,239
And what that does is it creates higher

2128
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:25,440
payments at the beginning of the

2129
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,440
borrowing and lower payments towards the

2130
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:29,040
end of the borrowing. This does a few

2131
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,760
things. First, it minimizes the interest

2132
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,440
you pay because you're paying equal

2133
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:34,560
principal payments. So, you're paying

2134
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,639
more of the principal upfront. The

2135
01:27:36,639 --> 01:27:38,239
second thing it does in terms of a

2136
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:41,120
management ability is as the costs of

2137
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,960
the projects and the debt payments

2138
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,080
decline over time, you're able to layer

2139
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,440
in additional debt and new projects

2140
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:52,480
without spiking in terms of the the debt

2141
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:54,639
costs. So, we're able to maintain a

2142
01:27:54,639 --> 01:27:57,360
consistent budget within our operating

2143
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,760
budget to service debt while still

2144
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
continuing to take on new projects and

2145
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,520
retire old projects like the mayor

2146
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,360
mentioned earlier. So this process

2147
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,320
allows us to um be predictable in how

2148
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,400
we're planning. So we don't take these

2149
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,480
projects lightly. We plan for them well

2150
01:28:14,480 --> 01:28:16,800
in advance. We've been if you look back

2151
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,199
on historical capital expenditure plans,

2152
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:21,199
you'll see this project there with a

2153
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:24,159
with an earmark in our debt um schedules

2154
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:27,520
um back well four years ago was when we

2155
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,199
got the first initial appropriation, but

2156
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:30,800
it was on there even before that because

2157
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,159
we were beginning to plan. that's how

2158
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:34,320
long it takes to to plan these projects

2159
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,320
and make sure you're timing the debt

2160
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,239
authorizations at the appropriate time

2161
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:40,320
to not create unnecessary pressure in

2162
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,159
the budget. So, it provides

2163
01:28:42,159 --> 01:28:44,239
predictability. Um, the other thing it

2164
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,080
does that's very important is because

2165
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,080
you maintain a certain level of debt

2166
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,360
capacity and the mayor mentioned this

2167
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,000
early earlier. It allows you the

2168
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,080
capacity in the future to deal with

2169
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,040
large capital projects if you time them

2170
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,520
up properly while the debt is expiring

2171
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,520
without having a major impact in your

2172
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:07,040
operating budget. So you layer it in as time goes by. Uh and it obviously I

2173
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,199
mentioned it avoids spikes in the annual

2174
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:11,040
budget. So that's kind of the

2175
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,400
illustration of kind of how we manage

2176
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,880
the debt here. And that method of

2177
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:16,719
managing our debt service has allowed us

2178
01:29:16,719 --> 01:29:18,800
to do a number of things over the years.

2179
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,880
Um, and so we've been able to uh the

2180
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,560
mayor mentioned all our buildings in in

2181
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,080
the uh in the city. Uh we've provided

2182
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,840
renovations and additions to all of our

2183
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,000
elementary schools, capped landfills.

2184
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,920
We've done a number of drainage pro uh

2185
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,440
projects over the years to avoid

2186
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:35,440
flooding in neighborhoods uh and

2187
01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:38,159
maintain proper runoff. Um we've done

2188
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:39,679
work, extensive work at the Beverly

2189
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:42,159
Farms Library. We built the high school.

2190
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:44,320
Uh we've acquired numerous parcels of

2191
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,840
land to preserve open space for

2192
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,159
recreation. We've purchased fire trucks.

2193
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:49,920
We've purchased large uh pieces of

2194
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,920
equipment, renovated the interior of the

2195
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,800
carriage house. Um three uh public

2196
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,560
parking lots in the downtown area had

2197
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,280
full renovations. Repairs to this

2198
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,360
building, the facade and the roof, as

2199
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,360
well as the main library was completed

2200
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,320
with this debt service um budget. We we

2201
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:08,400
built a uh a middle school. We built a

2202
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,040
new police station. Uh and we um

2203
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,280
acquired the uh the downtown parking

2204
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,520
behind the dollar dollar dollar store uh

2205
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,840
lot with this uh with this budget line.

2206
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,600
Uh in addition to that, as the mayor

2207
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,600
said in his earlier presentation, we've

2208
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,199
got ongoing work at the central fire

2209
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:25,280
station that was funded through this uh

2210
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,159
as well. So this method is allowing us

2211
01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:31,520
to continue to improve uh and and repair

2212
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,760
and replenish our infrastructure and

2213
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,000
protect our assets.

2214
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,679
Uh I wanted to show uh everybody what

2215
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:42,159
our debt service looks like historically

2216
01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:44,480
as a percentage of our operating budget.

2217
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,880
We historically have hovered around 7%

2218
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:48,639
of our operating budget. And you can see

2219
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:51,600
going back 15 years to 2010, that's

2220
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,360
right about where we are. So this is the

2221
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,760
amount of money we're paying in our debt

2222
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,159
payments every year compared to the

2223
01:30:58,159 --> 01:31:00,320
overall operating budget for the city.

2224
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,040
And you can see uh in about 2019 there

2225
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:04,560
was a bit of a spike that has to do with

2226
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,320
the middle school and bringing on some

2227
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,719
debt aggressively initially to smooth

2228
01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:10,880
out the payments in the later years. And

2229
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,480
then a couple years later you see

2230
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:14,080
another little jump and that has to do

2231
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,159
with the same strategy that we employed

2232
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:18,000
for the police station to smooth out the

2233
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,480
future year debt payments. But since uh

2234
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:23,360
2022, you can see that the the debt

2235
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,440
payments in terms of a percentage of our

2236
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:27,920
budget has begun to decline to a level

2237
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,360
of in this uh in this budget year 2026,

2238
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,760
we're at 5% of our operating budget goes

2239
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,840
to debt and debt service. Um

2240
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,600
we want to make sure we maintain that

2241
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,159
level. um just as a matter of be best

2242
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,080
practice because as I said earlier it's

2243
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,000
important to maintain this so that you

2244
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,480
can layer in future projects without

2245
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,239
having to spike the budget and push the

2246
01:31:50,239 --> 01:31:52,000
budget way out of control and have to

2247
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,159
cut cut other types of critical services

2248
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,280
and things of that nature. So um how

2249
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,840
does it look with the city hall project?

2250
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,679
So many of you have seen this schedule

2251
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:04,719
before. This is uh an excerpt uh revised

2252
01:32:04,719 --> 01:32:06,960
from our capital expenditure plan. The

2253
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,360
top portion, the top half of this uh

2254
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,920
slide shows our existing debt service

2255
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,840
for all of our projects that we've

2256
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,840
already done and we're just basically

2257
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,560
paying the bonds uh on those projects.

2258
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,120
And you can see that in 2026 that number

2259
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,920
is about 6.9, but it begins to decline

2260
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,760
every year. It drops and drops and drops. And that's our opportunity to

2261
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,080
begin layering in these other projects

2262
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,159
which are represented in the second half

2263
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:34,719
of the of the sheet here down below.

2264
01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:38,239
About 1 2 3 four lines down on the lower

2265
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:41,360
half you see the city hall um the city

2266
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,880
hall project and you see it in two

2267
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,320
tanches. You see a 15.37 million trunch

2268
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,560
and a $10 million trunch. those are

2269
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,000
treated differently because the timing

2270
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,080
of those bonds will be different because

2271
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,880
we we try to manage our cash flow uh at

2272
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,320
different points in time so that we're

2273
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,239
not sitting on money unnecessarily and

2274
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,400
paying interest. So we layer that out

2275
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,719
through the course of the project. But

2276
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:04,719
you can see and the critical part to

2277
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:06,639
this slide and this is my ending point

2278
01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:08,960
is down below in the very bottom that's

2279
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,040
highlighted in yellow. The debt service

2280
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,040
is a percent of our estimated general

2281
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,679
fund budget right now this year is at

2282
01:33:15,679 --> 01:33:18,880
5.06. We can layer in this city hall

2283
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,440
refurbishment assuming and these are

2284
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:24,480
conservative assumptions a 25-year note.

2285
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:26,080
We can push that out further if we need

2286
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,920
to. And at 4.5% for the first offering,

2287
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,440
four and a quarter% for the second

2288
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,120
offering. Those are a bit higher than

2289
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,199
the current market right now. So these

2290
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:38,159
are probably a worst case scenario I

2291
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:40,000
would say in terms of our estimates

2292
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,280
here. but you still maintain um debt

2293
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,440
service at a percentage of 5% of the

2294
01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:47,360
annual operating budget without spiking

2295
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,120
it and eating into other areas of the

2296
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:50,960
budget. And that's how we manage debt

2297
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,320
responsibly. Uh and I I believe you all

2298
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,320
got a chance to read uh Mr. Perry's

2299
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,800
memo. I won't steal his thunder, but um

2300
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,600
you know, it is considered responsible

2301
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,920
practice to do it this way. Um so I'll end there and uh I'll be here for

2302
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,560
any questions if you if you have any.

2303
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,560
>> Thank you, Mr. Als. I'm just going to

2304
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,520
pause again. I just need to reopen the

2305
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,840
order the public hearing on order 10A.

2306
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,600
Of course, as I mentioned and you heard

2307
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,239
Mr. Als allude to these are these are

2308
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:22,480
related to each other. Um councilors, I

2309
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:24,080
would entertain a motion to recess this

2310
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,320
one to 9:00.

2311
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,560
>> All those in favor?

2312
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,360
>> We'll pick up 10A at 9:00 and that will

2313
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,120
give us time then to come back around on

2314
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:39,120
our public hearing on order number 10.

2315
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,840
Um did you have further presentation or

2316
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:42,560
were you just

2317
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,800
>> so just wanted to say again thank you on

2318
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,960
behalf of the project team colleagues

2319
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:50,400
project leaders fine gold Alexander WT

2320
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,320
Rich and the support of the the mayor

2321
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,320
and the mayor's team at this point in

2322
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,800
time if there's any questions with uh

2323
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:58,880
here to uh answer whatever we can at

2324
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,080
this point. Thank you.

2325
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,440
>> Thank you very much. Thank you to

2326
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,840
everybody who uh presented. Thank you to

2327
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,159
the team for being here. I think um

2328
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:08,560
before we move into questions u Mr.

2329
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,480
Perry I'll invite you to come to the

2330
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:12,960
podium as well um if there's anything

2331
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,239
that you'd like to offer as we'll have

2332
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:17,679
sort of everything on the table as we

2333
01:35:17,679 --> 01:35:18,960
begin to consider.

2334
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,560
>> Thank you Madam President. Good evening

2335
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,000
everybody. Uh for those who don't know

2336
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,320
me on TV, I'm Jerry Perry. I'm the

2337
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,080
budget analyst for the Beverly City

2338
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,600
Council. I wrote to [clears throat] you

2339
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,120
last week uh my memo um regarding this

2340
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,360
project and a lot of the comments I'm

2341
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:34,560
just going to reiterate that you heard

2342
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,320
from Mr. Als and a few others but I just

2343
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,159
want to go over briefly then give you my

2344
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:40,639
recommendation. Uh as as indicated

2345
01:35:40,639 --> 01:35:42,880
earlier uh it's important for

2346
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,719
municipalities. It's it's not even best

2347
01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:46,719
practice. It's really just standard

2348
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:49,840
practice to ensure that you have enough

2349
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:51,760
uh of your budget set aside for capital

2350
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,679
infrastructure needs as well as for

2351
01:35:53,679 --> 01:35:56,719
operating costs. uh if you start to

2352
01:35:56,719 --> 01:35:59,520
shrink the capital infrastructure side

2353
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:00,639
of the budget, you're starting to

2354
01:36:00,639 --> 01:36:01,920
jeopardize the infrastructure of the

2355
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,800
community. I go back to uh even prior to

2356
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,120
me coming here, as you know, many of you

2357
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:09,679
uh it took a long time, 30 plus years or

2358
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:12,639
so, to figure out how to build a police

2359
01:36:12,639 --> 01:36:14,719
station financially and we were able to

2360
01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:16,719
fix that properly with good debt

2361
01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:18,639
management. I commend the finance

2362
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:20,639
director, Mr. Als, uh who did a great

2363
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,800
job way back then. As many of you know,

2364
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,280
we did financial policies that helped uh

2365
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,239
us incorporate this stuff. To do these

2366
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:30,400
types of projects takes a long time.

2367
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,320
I've spent four years working on this

2368
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,719
personally with the administration. And

2369
01:36:34,719 --> 01:36:37,040
it's important as city councilors and as

2370
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,440
policy makers that having a certain

2371
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:42,320
amount of the the budget set aside for

2372
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,760
capital cost is vital uh to the

2373
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,600
well-being of the community. It's been

2374
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,280
my professional opinion. I've been doing

2375
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,960
this an awful long time. As you know,

2376
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,920
I'm an advocate for 7%. You saw Mr.

2377
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,960
Als's uh uh data up there. We're down

2378
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,119
around 5%. I would argue we're not

2379
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:01,440
spending enough on capital costs. But

2380
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:03,280
then that's a policy decision between

2381
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,119
the mayor and the city council. You've

2382
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:07,600
chosen to go down to 5%. And if that's

2383
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:08,639
the direction you want to go, that's

2384
01:37:08,639 --> 01:37:10,320
your policy decision. But I would

2385
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,480
caution you going even below that,

2386
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:14,239
you're going to jeopardize uh future

2387
01:37:14,239 --> 01:37:16,400
projects. as an example, and you all

2388
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,000
have seen over the years the capital

2389
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,520
expenditure report presented by the

2390
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,440
administration, and I don't want to

2391
01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:22,960
speak for the mayor, but I know we've

2392
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,960
had several conversations about future

2393
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,920
projects, specifically the school roofs,

2394
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,119
the HVAC systems at the schools, heating

2395
01:37:31,119 --> 01:37:32,880
systems, etc. If you look carefully at

2396
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,400
your capital expenditure report, it's

2397
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,560
actually on the debt schedule that uh

2398
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,480
has been provided to you. We're looking

2399
01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:40,880
over like I think four phases for those

2400
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,360
uh pieces of work to the tune of in the

2401
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,080
vicinity of $40 million to fix the

2402
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,159
schools. We've got to do that. But if

2403
01:37:48,159 --> 01:37:50,400
you start shrinking

2404
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,320
your capital project uh your debt

2405
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,239
position here, you are going to

2406
01:37:54,239 --> 01:37:56,480
jeopardize future projects and I

2407
01:37:56,480 --> 01:37:58,400
specifically bring attention the school

2408
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,040
roofs, the HVCA systems and things of

2409
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,639
that nature. So it is of concern to me

2410
01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:04,560
as your budget analyst. It's important

2411
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,119
to me at least and as I advise you to

2412
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:09,440
try to maintain a certain level of the

2413
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:11,600
debt as Mr. Als indicated so you don't

2414
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,600
spike things.

2415
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,199
It's been in the works as I said for

2416
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:16,880
four four plus years. We've been working

2417
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,119
on this hardly as you know and has been

2418
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:22,159
indicated already on March 7th 2022 the

2419
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:25,440
then city council voted to transfer 1.5

2420
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:27,440
million to begin the process to have all

2421
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:29,360
these folks here to do the work here and

2422
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,440
to bring things to our attention. I

2423
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,679
wrote to you at that time. I said the

2424
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:35,280
following. I recommend approval of this

2425
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,080
1.5 million request with one caveat.

2426
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,679
Should the city council approve this

2427
01:38:39,679 --> 01:38:41,520
transfer, it is with the understanding

2428
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,679
that future appropriations or transfers

2429
01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:45,920
will be necessary over the next three to

2430
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,400
four years to successfully finance the

2431
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,560
overall project.

2432
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,520
If is the wish of uh the city council

2433
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,239
not to go forward with this, we will

2434
01:38:56,239 --> 01:38:58,800
have wasted $ 1.5 million of hardearned

2435
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,040
taxpayer money. It's something I ask you

2436
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,440
to please consider.

2437
01:39:03,440 --> 01:39:05,360
I think three of the counselors were not

2438
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,440
here at that time. So, I guess they get

2439
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:09,760
a pass on that. And certainly councilors

2440
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:11,520
have a right to change their opinion

2441
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,400
from what they voted for in 2022. But we

2442
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,639
put a down payment on this thing and it

2443
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:18,320
would be in my view as budget analyst.

2444
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,040
I'd be hardressed to justify losing that

2445
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,440
$ 1.5 million here if we don't go

2446
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,159
forward with this project. Um, it's been

2447
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:27,760
asked of me and I do want to talk

2448
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,560
briefly about uh, let's wait a year. We

2449
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,800
have budget problems going forward. It's

2450
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,639
not a secret. We all know that. And what

2451
01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:35,920
would happen if we waited a year? Well,

2452
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,440
a couple of things as I wrote to you

2453
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:39,119
would be of concern to me. And I'm not

2454
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,800
the the folks here in the front seats

2455
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,960
could answer it better than I, but it's

2456
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,400
my understanding that we're looking at

2457
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,480
approximately an inflationary factor of

2458
01:39:46,480 --> 01:39:48,960
6% if we waited one more year. That

2459
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,440
would mean another $1.7 million we'd

2460
01:39:51,440 --> 01:39:53,520
have to add to this project if we waited

2461
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,760
one year and try to uh try to save, you

2462
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,719
know, see if we can get through FY27.

2463
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:00,960
That would jeopardize the finances of

2464
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,400
this project yet. We'd have to come up

2465
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,119
with another 1.7 million if that uh

2466
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:06,719
figure is accurate. I don't know where

2467
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:09,119
that money would come from. Um and I

2468
01:40:09,119 --> 01:40:11,360
just urge you to consider that in your

2469
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,560
final deliberations.

2470
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,520
Finally, uh Mr. is correct when he

2471
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,360
showed a lot of the debt stuff. This is

2472
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,560
an important thing that's not really

2473
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,560
been mentioned yet here. The

2474
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,320
administration working in concert with

2475
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,239
the nine of you have put together a

2476
01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:29,280
financial package that does not require

2477
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,560
a debt exclusion override. That's very

2478
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,719
unusual for a project of this size in a

2479
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:36,159
city like this. Most of the other

2480
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:37,600
communities that I've worked with over

2481
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,520
the years almost invariably have to go

2482
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,139
for that debt exclusion. It

2483
01:40:41,139 --> 01:40:42,320
[clears throat] shows that the

2484
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:43,840
administration working with the city

2485
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,600
council has done a great job in my

2486
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,159
opinion as your budget analyst planning

2487
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:49,600
for the future and planning for the

2488
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:51,440
present to make sure that the finances

2489
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:54,239
all work here and it's really uh I think

2490
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:56,320
uh commending to all of you people the

2491
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,000
fact that we did not need a debt

2492
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,320
exclusion to get this done. It's it's

2493
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,639
suggested to do it inside the levy limit

2494
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:07,280
and that's really important I think to suggest or at least to uh comment

2495
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,760
about. So finally, given the conditions

2496
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,560
of this building,

2497
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,199
our debt capacity, the city's long-range

2498
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:17,520
financial planning process, prior

2499
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,280
financial commitments to this city hall

2500
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,119
project made by this city coun or prior

2501
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:23,679
city council, and other factors. It is

2502
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:25,600
my recommendation to you as your budget

2503
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,520
analyst to approve the loan

2504
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,760
authorization for the city hall project.

2505
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,360
And further, it's also my recommendation

2506
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,040
when we get to it in the second one

2507
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,600
there uh to transfer the $2 million of

2508
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,760
the debt stabilization to do the

2509
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,159
project. Madame President, uh members of

2510
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:41,840
the council, I stand ready to answer

2511
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:43,920
questions now or anytime you wish. Thank

2512
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:44,560
you.

2513
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,040
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Perry. Uh I

2514
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,360
know that we do have uh many folks who

2515
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:50,800
are here ready to answer questions. I'm

2516
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,960
sure counselors do have questions. We do

2517
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,159
have two members of the public who

2518
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:54,719
signed up to [clears throat and snorts]

2519
01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:56,080
speak in this hearing. And I am mindful

2520
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,760
that members of the public have been

2521
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:58,960
listening, sitting and listening

2522
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,280
attentively for quite a stretch now. So,

2523
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,560
I'd like to actually go to members of

2524
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,000
the public before I open it up for

2525
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,000
counselors. Um, so we can make sure we

2526
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,320
can hear from folks and then of course

2527
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,520
members of the public are welcome to

2528
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,440
stay, but I do recognize it's it's

2529
01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:13,199
getting later and if you need to go, you

2530
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:15,040
also would be able to make your comment

2531
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,800
before doing so. So, um, the first, uh,

2532
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,000
member of the public who signed up to

2533
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,000
speak in this public hearing is UPLO

2534
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,880
Rick Marciano. Um, Mr. Marciano, if you

2535
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,880
would go to the podium, uh, begin with

2536
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,400
your name and address for the record,

2537
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,119
although I just gave away your name. Um,

2538
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:33,440
and again, Vice President St. Helier, if

2539
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:35,440
you would not mind keeping time for us.

2540
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:38,400
Um, similarly, u, Mr. Marciano, you have

2541
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,920
up to three minutes if you hear the

2542
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,239
timer go off, if you would just draw

2543
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:44,000
your remarks to a close. We do that just

2544
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,679
to make sure that all all public comment

2545
01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:47,280
is equitable and we get to hear from

2546
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:48,960
everyone with the same amount of time.

2547
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,239
>> Yes. Thank you Rick Marciano 141 Mccay

2548
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:54,480
Street. Uh thank you. The finance

2549
01:42:54,480 --> 01:42:56,560
forecast committee did a great job. A

2550
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,960
lot of detail. Uh the project group that

2551
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,400
was just here the presentation that was

2552
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,000
great. Um Mr. Perry smartest individual

2553
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,679
you can you can probably have. Um but in

2554
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:09,520
reference to this I I would not approve

2555
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,119
it this year. Maybe not next year. Um,

2556
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:17,520
we were just looking at laying off 82.5

2557
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,880
employees for the city of Beverly and

2558
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,239
they were talking about the finance

2559
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:26,800
committee trash fee could go up to $320.

2560
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,800
So things and there's other areas

2561
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,080
they're trying to raise taxes. If

2562
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:31,679
they're trying to do that, we're not

2563
01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:33,600
going in the right direction. Uh what

2564
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,639
took place was they took the line item

2565
01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:38,960
roads and sidewalks off of the general

2566
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,080
fund budget that went over to the free

2567
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:47,520
cash which may be up to 10 $5 million

2568
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,520
which can come up this it's going to be

2569
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,440
probably approved maybe around July 1st

2570
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:55,760
or after and pulled $2.7 million out of

2571
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,320
that. So that brought us down to after

2572
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,239
the overall amount is to lay off 50

2573
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:02,480
employees. I don't want to see no

2574
01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:06,080
employees laid off. And Mr. Perry talked

2575
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:07,360
about not pulling out of those funds,

2576
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,119
which he's he's the expert. He's he's

2577
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:10,639
saved a lot of cities in the state with

2578
01:44:10,639 --> 01:44:13,119
this job that he did. And the one thing

2579
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:16,000
I'm suggesting is that we do not do this

2580
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,080
project at all right now. We're going to

2581
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,239
have to wait till till we can prove

2582
01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:21,600
we're not going to take any more taxes

2583
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:23,280
from the citizens because they're coming

2584
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,840
from everywhere. But I would just

2585
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,679
suggest that the two mil the

2586
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:31,199
$2 million you want to pull out of the

2587
01:44:31,199 --> 01:44:33,440
stabilization fund or the rainy day

2588
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:38,159
fund, pull three

2589
01:44:38,159 --> 01:44:40,320
approximately 3,000 out of that to make

2590
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,960
up for the $4,000 debt that you're

2591
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:44,719
looking to make up right now because

2592
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:45,760
something's going to happen with that.

2593
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,840
If we're 4 million in debt to be talking

2594
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,760
about this, it's very, very tough to me

2595
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:51,840
and a lot of other citizens. And then if

2596
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,679
that was three there, then we could pull

2597
01:44:53,679 --> 01:44:55,840
an additional

2598
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,520
1 million out of the the free cash fund,

2599
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,600
which is the extra money as we learned

2600
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,000
about and you can you can look at I'm

2601
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:05,119
not going to read the whole thing off,

2602
01:45:05,119 --> 01:45:08,000
but that's the that's again $10.5

2603
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,719
million. So we'll go down to 7.5. we

2604
01:45:10,719 --> 01:45:13,440
pull the um or a little bit more than

2605
01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:15,520
that, but if we pull the 2.7 out of

2606
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,920
there, then 1 million more to go to

2607
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,920
cover the deficit, that should cover

2608
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,360
everything for this year. And let's just

2609
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,440
get this year over and done with and

2610
01:45:25,440 --> 01:45:27,040
then next year you're going to have to

2611
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,920
figure out that hopefully we're not

2612
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:31,119
behind again, but it's looked like we're

2613
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:33,199
going to be behind. So that's one of the

2614
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:35,440
main reasons not to approve this

2615
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:37,280
project. Thank you very much.

2616
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,840
>> Thank you very much, Mr. Marciano.

2617
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:41,440
The other member of the public signed up

2618
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:44,480
here to speak is Paul Herrick.

2619
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:46,080
And Mr. Herrick, if you as well would

2620
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:47,440
begin with your name and address for the

2621
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:49,040
record. And if you do hear uh Vice

2622
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,639
President St. Heler's timer, if you

2623
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:51,920
would just draw your remarks to a close

2624
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,960
at that time.

2625
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,040
>> Hello, council. Um, thank you. I don't

2626
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,560
come to a lot of these public meetings.

2627
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,719
And as some of the councilors know, I

2628
01:45:58,719 --> 01:46:00,719
have pretty strong opinions. In general,

2629
01:46:00,719 --> 01:46:03,679
I came here actually thinking this was

2630
01:46:03,679 --> 01:46:06,080
not a great idea. The presentation was

2631
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,320
excellent. understanding the financing

2632
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,719
was excellent. Knowing the size of the

2633
01:46:10,719 --> 01:46:12,960
building kind of shocked me. It's about

2634
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,760
50,000 feet roughly. Uh so I didn't

2635
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,119
realize how big the building was when I

2636
01:46:17,119 --> 01:46:18,800
heard all the numbers of what it would

2637
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,360
cost. So actually I completely changed

2638
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,119
my mind on the thought. I think it's a

2639
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:25,600
great idea. The city needs a good place

2640
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,840
for meetings. Needs employees to have a

2641
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,600
good place to be. Obviously needs

2642
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:30,719
bathrooms because you guys have to

2643
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:32,000
travel through the whole building to use

2644
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,560
them. So obviously it needs to be done.

2645
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,119
I would offer as an aside the family

2646
01:46:37,119 --> 01:46:39,040
dollar building across the street that's

2647
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:40,400
going to be sold at some point. There's

2648
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,800
going to be some kind of discussion.

2649
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:44,880
I have two general thoughts on that.

2650
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,840
Before you put an RFP out, get a zoning

2651
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,000
board of appeal to raise the height

2652
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,000
limit for someone to build there.

2653
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,719
Secondly, get a waiver to demol demolish

2654
01:46:54,719 --> 01:46:56,880
the building. This will do two things.

2655
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,040
It'll get you more money. You could put

2656
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,960
in the RFP that they have to give a nod

2657
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,360
to that design so it looks historically

2658
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,600
significant and by allowing the building

2659
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,679
to go up, you'll get more money for it

2660
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:09,440
and you'll have more parking for the

2661
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:10,239
city.

2662
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:11,440
>> On that, I thought it was a great

2663
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:13,840
presentation by everybody. Thank you,

2664
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:15,360
>> Mr. Heric. Would you mind just stating

2665
01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,119
your u your address for the record?

2666
01:47:17,119 --> 01:47:18,880
>> Uh 18 Bayiew Beverly.

2667
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,719
>> Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr.

2668
01:47:20,719 --> 01:47:23,119
Heric. Uh those were the only two

2669
01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:24,400
members of the public signed up to speak

2670
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:25,840
in this public hearing. Were there other

2671
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,360
members of the public who hoped to speak

2672
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,350
in this public hearing?

2673
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,000
Okay. Uh counselors, I'd like to open it

2674
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,800
up. Oh, I'm sorry.

2675
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,040
>> Oh, yes. Sorry. Thank you, Miss Ken. Uh

2676
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,480
counselors, I'd like to open it up now

2677
01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:42,639
for questions from the council.

2678
01:47:42,639 --> 01:47:44,880
Questions um could be for any of the

2679
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,080
folks that we heard from. We of course

2680
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,239
heard presentation from the the team. We

2681
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:50,560
also heard from Mr. Als and from Mr.

2682
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,800
Perry. Um councelor Houseman, I saw your

2683
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,470
hand.

2684
01:47:56,480 --> 01:47:57,280
Thank you, [clears throat] Madam

2685
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:02,239
President. Um, yeah, I have uh when the

2686
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:04,400
time comes to for the vote and consider

2687
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,239
and debate amongst the council, I have I

2688
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:08,159
have something to say, but I will uh

2689
01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:10,080
limit myself at the moment to just two

2690
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,400
questions uh related to the

2691
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,000
architectural uh design matters. Uh, one

2692
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:20,639
is we've seen concept drawings and um

2693
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:23,280
there's been a nod to historic

2694
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,520
architecture, the value of historic

2695
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:29,920
architecture. Um, I believe this new

2696
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,560
design or this renovated design will uh

2697
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:35,920
use uh airsource heat pumps. And if I'm

2698
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,040
correct, the concept uh drawings don't

2699
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:45,119
really um uh depict where and how those

2700
01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:48,000
would provide uh their uh their

2701
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,800
ventilation uh heating and cooling. And

2702
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,800
I know at least speaking as a lay

2703
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:54,480
person, you know, you see a lot of

2704
01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:56,800
houses that have things going up the

2705
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,600
side of the building. I assume that this

2706
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:03,520
design, this renovation design would uh

2707
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,440
not would not include those kinds of

2708
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:11,440
exterior uh features but would provide

2709
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:13,920
uh you know their function uh in a

2710
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,760
different design. So if you could uh

2711
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,119
speak to that and then I have one other

2712
01:49:17,119 --> 01:49:19,840
question about it.

2713
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:21,760
>> Thank you David.

2714
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,040
>> Yeah, I could take that. Just one

2715
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:30,370
second.

2716
01:49:30,380 --> 01:49:33,750
» [clears throat]

2717
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:35,679
» So the um airsource heat pump that we'll

2718
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:37,520
be utilizing is not a typical as to like

2719
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,440
a residential unit. It's much larger to

2720
01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:41,679
accommodate a uh a commercial building

2721
01:49:41,679 --> 01:49:44,480
of this size. And there are two um you

2722
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,159
see two boxes on the top of the roof of

2723
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:48,400
the reconstructed annex. One of those is

2724
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,239
the airsource heat pump and the other is

2725
01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:53,280
the dedicated outside air source. And so

2726
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:56,080
um there'll be mechanical systems um

2727
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,239
duct work that will go down from the

2728
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:01,280
roof and permeate through the building

2729
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,320
>> including the the the existing building

2730
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,800
here not the police station for both

2731
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:07,040
buildings.

2732
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:08,800
>> Yes. Yes. They they will operate for for

2733
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,159
the entire it it is going to be

2734
01:50:10,159 --> 01:50:12,480
functioning mechanically as one building

2735
01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:14,159
not not as two separate buildings.

2736
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:16,320
>> Okay. I rather assume that but again I

2737
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,080
wasn't going to assume. So thank you.

2738
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:18,400
Yep.

2739
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,239
>> Uh my second question has to do with a

2740
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:23,119
comment that was made about uh the IT

2741
01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:25,440
department servers remaining in the

2742
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:30,560
basement and um I I I know I'll have a

2743
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,600
question uh later about uh the RFP and

2744
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,119
relocation, but just specific to uh this

2745
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:40,159
team um

2746
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:41,760
and I'm not sure exactly who's the best

2747
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,159
person to answer this question, but it

2748
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:45,920
was my understanding that the IT

2749
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,679
department itself would move off site

2750
01:50:49,679 --> 01:50:52,960
and um but if the IT server is going to

2751
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,880
be down here to sort of uh harmonize how

2752
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:04,310
those two things would happen together.

2753
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,600
» I could take a stab at that one second.

2754
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:12,470
Let me change.

2755
01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,360
So yes, the the IT um server room which

2756
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,840
is in it's the the in the purple space.

2757
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,320
It's the room farthest to the left. Um

2758
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,159
that has to remain operational through

2759
01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:23,600
construction. Um our understanding is

2760
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,520
about 50% of the fiber optics of the

2761
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,840
city and the 911 call service kind of go

2762
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:32,320
through that. Staff won't be um there um

2763
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,080
permanently during the construction.

2764
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,880
they will be be able to access the space

2765
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,199
from time to time when they need to um

2766
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:42,719
accommodate the the IT server space. Um

2767
01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:44,560
and we're working with WTri to ensure

2768
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,199
that during construction there would be

2769
01:51:47,199 --> 01:51:50,080
um uh temporary power at times when

2770
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,199
electricity would need to be shut off

2771
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:52,800
from the building. So to ensure that

2772
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,360
there's no disruptions to that service.

2773
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:57,280
>> Okay. Thank you. Um those are my only

2774
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:58,719
two questions about the sort of the

2775
01:51:58,719 --> 01:52:01,119
architectural construction

2776
01:52:01,119 --> 01:52:02,960
features and components. Thank you.

2777
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,400
very much, Councelor Hostman.

2778
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:05,520
Councelor St. Heler.

2779
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,159
>> Thank you, Madam President. Um, so I

2780
01:52:08,159 --> 01:52:10,400
guess I I have some questions about fun

2781
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,040
uh the budget, the FY27 budget. Uh, Mr.

2782
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,320
Mayor, you seem to suggest tonight that

2783
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:17,920
the challenges that we face are just

2784
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,440
like we face every year that we'll get

2785
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:21,840
through this. Um, that seems to be

2786
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,199
different than the message that we heard

2787
01:52:23,199 --> 01:52:24,639
from the financial forecasting

2788
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:26,719
committee, which is made up of our

2789
01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:28,480
finance director. It's made up of Mr.

2790
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:30,880
Perry. Um he was on those conversations

2791
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,119
of several of our colleagues and they

2792
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:35,760
were talking about the need for up to 54

2793
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,280
layoffs. They were talking about

2794
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,080
increases to the trash fee. Um they were

2795
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:41,280
talking about the need to go to the

2796
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,080
voters for a property tax override. And

2797
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:45,520
they suggested that this year was

2798
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,280
different than than years past. That we've already uh tapped the excess

2799
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:51,119
levy capacity that we had to zero out

2800
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:53,520
the budget on on roads and sidewalks

2801
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,119
that we don't have those same levers

2802
01:52:55,119 --> 01:52:57,520
that we've had in the past. So, I guess,

2803
01:52:57,520 --> 01:52:59,040
you know, before, you know, we all are

2804
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,440
asked to vote on on this, this will be

2805
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:04,000
$2 million of operating dollars from our

2806
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,639
operating budget for FY27.

2807
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:09,360
You know, could you speak to the

2808
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,040
strategies that that we have for the

2809
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,599
FY27 budget? Are we looking at layoffs?

2810
01:53:13,599 --> 01:53:15,280
Are we looking to take a property tax

2811
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,520
override to the voters? You know, how do

2812
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,320
you square that the messaging there?

2813
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,840
So, like past years, [clears throat]

2814
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:25,520
and this is what I was getting at, like

2815
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,920
past years, the financial forecasting

2816
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:29,760
process has shown that our revenues

2817
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,679
would not meet our expenditures when you look at, you know, projected

2818
01:53:33,679 --> 01:53:37,599
need. Um, and like past years, we will

2819
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:40,080
pass a balanced budget. We have to,

2820
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,119
right? Um, you just ticked off several

2821
01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:46,000
things that were discussed in and found

2822
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,840
a place in the report. I think probably

2823
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:51,360
most to all of them of the process.

2824
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:55,040
We would not do all of the above, right?

2825
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,880
The the the several things you mentioned

2826
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,599
are all possible ways to meet our

2827
01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:02,480
budgetary obligations. So, and when you

2828
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:04,080
asked me this question when we when we

2829
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,320
sat and talked a few weeks ago, I told

2830
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,400
you that on January 20th, I almost

2831
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,320
certainly would not have a budget

2832
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,960
proposal for you, and I don't. Uh but I

2833
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,800
you know everything that is being

2834
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,840
everything that was suggested

2835
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,000
is on the table. Things that probably

2836
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,880
didn't come up during during um

2837
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,800
financial forecasting may end up on the

2838
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,520
table as well.

2839
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,199
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mhm. Do

2840
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:29,760
>> you mind if I

2841
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,400
>> Sure. Of course. Of course.

2842
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,199
>> One one point of reference um councelor

2843
01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:36,880
and and for those that are familiar with

2844
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,679
the financial forecast work we did. Um

2845
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:42,719
this proposal as we laid it out here for

2846
01:54:42,719 --> 01:54:44,639
the bond

2847
01:54:44,639 --> 01:54:46,880
uh costs, let me get to that. [sighs]

2848
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:50,800
It's like the end here. Yeah. So you

2849
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,440
will note that the FY27

2850
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:56,159
total current plus proposed debt even

2851
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:59,119
with all of this authorization is about

2852
01:54:59,119 --> 01:55:02,239
a quarter million less than what was

2853
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:05,040
contained in the financial forecast. And

2854
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,000
these assumptions of a 25-y year and a 4

2855
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,280
and a half four and a half% offering are

2856
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:14,400
somewhat conservative. So, it's likely

2857
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,880
that we'll come in even under what's

2858
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,280
presented here, which is a quarter

2859
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,440
million under what was presented in the

2860
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,080
financial forecast. So, case in point,

2861
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,080
as we get closer to the budget timeline,

2862
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,480
which the mayor was alluding to, some of

2863
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,400
these assumptions that are contained in

2864
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,800
the forecast will start materializing uh

2865
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,400
more. So, I just wanted to point that

2866
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:36,960
out.

2867
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,440
>> Council Ser, did you have a followup?

2868
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:40,880
Well, I you know, I would just say that

2869
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,119
some of those strategies would have a

2870
01:55:43,119 --> 01:55:44,560
significant impact on a whole lot of

2871
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,159
people in this city. So, I you know, for

2872
01:55:46,159 --> 01:55:47,440
me, I would want to know that at least

2873
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,360
some of those things were off the table

2874
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,280
uh before I was willing to commit $30

2875
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,560
million of taxpayer money. Um so, I you

2876
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,320
know, I don't know what the sense of

2877
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,960
urgency, you know, we approved the 1.5

2878
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,520
that Mr. Perry referenced four years

2879
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,280
ago. So, you know, a lot's changed since

2880
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,760
then and um you know, I don't know what

2881
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,920
waiting uh through this budget season

2882
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,599
might look like or even a little bit

2883
01:56:09,599 --> 01:56:11,119
longer.

2884
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:14,159
So, that's all just that thought.

2885
01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:16,080
>> Thank you, councelor uh councelor

2886
01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,360
Feldman and then councelor Hosman.

2887
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:23,119
>> Yes. Um thank you and I I was I served

2888
01:56:23,119 --> 01:56:24,239
as the chair of the financial

2889
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:26,560
forecasting committee. So I I can say

2890
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:30,320
that I I was a part of that report and

2891
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,480
that process and it did you know to some

2892
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,199
extent feel um looking at the future a

2893
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:39,520
lot more challenging long term without

2894
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:41,119
coming up with some of those solutions

2895
01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:42,960
that we talked about in the meeting to

2896
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,760
try and make this work. But that being

2897
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,360
said and we can't say this enough

2898
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,440
operating costs are not the same as

2899
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,320
capital costs. We can't use things from

2900
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,159
the debt stabilization fund to bridge

2901
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:58,880
the gap this year or free cash to bridge

2902
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:00,480
the gap this year because it has a

2903
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,159
compounding effect. The price of

2904
01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:04,560
everything goes up and so we have to

2905
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,000
stay consistent with money in money out

2906
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,440
on an annual basis every single year. So

2907
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,840
it's really I understand the optics of

2908
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,480
this is incredibly hard and it's taken

2909
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,040
me many years to even understand the

2910
01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,000
concept fully myself. But

2911
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:25,360
there is a big difference between us

2912
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:29,199
saying there is a deficit on the

2913
01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:32,159
operating side of the city budget and us

2914
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:34,560
also saying there are capital

2915
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:36,480
expenditures that we need to make that

2916
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:39,199
have been planned for that play a part

2917
01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:41,679
to an extent in that budget but really

2918
01:57:41,679 --> 01:57:45,199
are its own separate entity in itself.

2919
01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:49,440
And I 100% understand how this is a very

2920
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:50,719
challenging unless you've been paying

2921
01:57:50,719 --> 01:57:52,719
attention to all of the discussions.

2922
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:55,360
It's it's hard to like pick up on all of

2923
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:58,800
this and it's a lot of spreadsheets. Um

2924
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,719
and I think both things can be true that

2925
01:58:02,719 --> 01:58:04,560
it doesn't sound great to say there's a

2926
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:06,960
deficit projected right now, which we

2927
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:10,080
will fix. But um this project is also

2928
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,000
really needed. Both things can be true

2929
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,440
at the same time. Um and if we didn't

2930
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,440
looking at this debt schedule in terms

2931
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,080
of best practices and we did discuss

2932
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,000
this at the financial forecasting

2933
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,119
committee of keeping at least a 5% debt

2934
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:27,520
service as part of a responsible best

2935
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,560
practices operating budget. If we did

2936
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,920
not borrow that 2 million in this first

2937
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:37,360
year that would drop us to 3.8

2938
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,800
1% of the borrowing and and that would

2939
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,400
have a compounding effect just like

2940
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:44,080
that. the percentage would not be able

2941
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,800
to grow to what we're looking at to keep

2942
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,679
our projects on schedule. Those schools

2943
01:58:49,679 --> 01:58:51,440
need roofs and this is part of that

2944
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,040
plan. I know it's hard to believe, but

2945
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,760
like that plan is up there to make sure

2946
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:58,320
we can responsibly fund with those

2947
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:00,080
capital projects that we know are coming

2948
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:03,679
down the pike. So, to that end, I do

2949
01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:06,132
have a question. I promise. I swear

2950
01:59:06,132 --> 01:59:06,719
[laughter]

2951
01:59:06,719 --> 01:59:08,000
once you get me talking about the

2952
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:09,920
financial forecast, I just can't stop.

2953
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:13,199
Um, but one of the things I was hoping

2954
01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:15,199
that maybe we had some numbers on, and I

2955
01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:17,199
think I've asked about this before, but

2956
01:59:17,199 --> 01:59:19,599
I'm not sure if we've ever gotten like

2957
01:59:19,599 --> 01:59:22,239
some examples or tangible like numbers.

2958
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:24,719
Um, I was wondering what are some of the

2959
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:26,480
efficiencies that we think we'll be able

2960
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,960
to create by bringing like the staff all

2961
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,560
back together because I know we're all

2962
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:33,760
over the city. And I'm wondering too if

2963
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,159
anyone's looked at some of the current

2964
01:59:36,159 --> 01:59:38,960
operating costs that it's taking to

2965
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,040
patch and mend and work with this

2966
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:43,520
building because those costs are already

2967
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:47,360
part of the operating budget in terms of

2968
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:50,400
inefficiencies that exist due to our

2969
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,679
spacing constraints. And and I know it's

2970
01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:56,239
more expensive to like heat a building

2971
01:59:56,239 --> 01:59:58,320
that is inefficient and it's more

2972
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:00,639
expensive to keep an old building vacant

2973
02:00:00,639 --> 02:00:03,520
safe for the public. And so I'm

2974
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:05,440
wondering if we have any numbers of the

2975
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:07,599
cost savings long term that this will

2976
02:00:07,599 --> 02:00:09,840
create in the operating budget to kind

2977
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:13,840
of help people understand how this plays

2978
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,760
a part.

2979
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:17,280
If you don't have one, I can we can

2980
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,280
follow up on that later.

2981
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,000
Um well, let's follow up. But but you

2982
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,760
know, just to give you some kind of an

2983
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:27,589
answer, um

2984
02:00:27,599 --> 02:00:29,440
if if you folks approve this project and

2985
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:33,679
it gets built, we will have a

2986
02:00:33,679 --> 02:00:35,679
far more energyefficient building when

2987
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:37,440
we're done. So that, you know, the cost

2988
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:40,159
of our um the cost of our heating and

2989
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:43,760
our cooling will be, you know, will be

2990
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:45,199
less than they would be if the project

2991
02:00:45,199 --> 02:00:46,960
didn't happen, right?

2992
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:52,400
So that's one. Um I I I do want to

2993
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:53,920
you asked about efficiencies with

2994
02:00:53,920 --> 02:00:56,960
departments. So as I mentioned in my

2995
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:59,040
remarks, one key thing is that the

2996
02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:00,719
health department really needs to be out

2997
02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:03,199
of the senior center, right? Baby

2998
02:01:03,199 --> 02:01:06,880
boomers keep getting older, which is

2999
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:10,800
better than the alternative, right? So we're going to have our largest

3000
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:13,599
senior generation

3001
02:01:13,599 --> 02:01:19,040
um that any of us have experienced. and so the the need for space for

3002
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,520
program for you know for people to be

3003
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,760
and to and to enjoy what the senior

3004
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,639
center offers is already there. Um the

3005
02:01:26,639 --> 02:01:28,239
health department is occupying more

3006
02:01:28,239 --> 02:01:30,639
space than they used to even in in the

3007
02:01:30,639 --> 02:01:32,800
senior center. So there's a real need

3008
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,520
for them to be here not there.

3009
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:38,159
uh inspectional services is in the GI

3010
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:40,159
building which the GR building was

3011
02:01:40,159 --> 02:01:42,080
available to the community for meetings

3012
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,719
and and you know and use for

3013
02:01:44,719 --> 02:01:47,199
neighborhood needs etc. not been

3014
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:49,199
possible since inspectional services is

3015
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:51,119
there that would be we'd be able to

3016
02:01:51,119 --> 02:01:53,199
resume holding that building out there

3017
02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:57,520
as available. Um, having having these

3018
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:01,920
departments that have permitting,

3019
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:05,440
inspectional obligations all in one

3020
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,040
space

3021
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,119
makes it easier for members of the

3022
02:02:09,119 --> 02:02:10,639
community

3023
02:02:10,639 --> 02:02:13,280
who who, you know, currently now they

3024
02:02:13,280 --> 02:02:14,719
may do what they're doing online, but if

3025
02:02:14,719 --> 02:02:15,920
they do what they're doing in person,

3026
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,560
and you know, some of it needs to be um

3027
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,040
the ability to for the public to have

3028
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:23,679
access to multiple departments in one

3029
02:02:23,679 --> 02:02:25,599
visit. it as opposed to driving to three

3030
02:02:25,599 --> 02:02:28,080
different places in that instance. U and

3031
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:29,760
certainly we do a lot of cross

3032
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:32,080
department work and while we do you know

3033
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,320
while we do hybrid and remote meetings

3034
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:36,719
we also do a lot of inerson work and and

3035
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:38,560
oftentimes you need that to really get

3036
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:41,840
decisions um made quickly and well so

3037
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:44,560
just a number of you know I'm just you

3038
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:47,199
know kind of trying to speak to the way

3039
02:02:47,199 --> 02:02:48,960
you asked the question. The one thing I

3040
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:51,599
do want to also do is echo what you said

3041
02:02:51,599 --> 02:02:55,599
before. You know, we we we the city was

3042
02:02:55,599 --> 02:02:57,760
before we were in our seats, but the

3043
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,080
city did renovation additions on five

3044
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:01,440
elementary schools and built a new

3045
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:05,920
elementary school between 1997 and 2003.

3046
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:07,840
All of those

3047
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:10,960
systems and and all of those roofs are

3048
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,760
coming up on end of life. So yes, we

3049
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,920
will need to be replacing roofs and HVAC

3050
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,320
systems for six school buildings in the

3051
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:21,199
coming years, which is planned for uh

3052
02:03:21,199 --> 02:03:25,840
and and you know, I I understand

3053
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,560
and and and appreciate

3054
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,400
the challenging thinking we're all

3055
02:03:30,400 --> 02:03:32,960
undergoing and will continue to, right?

3056
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:36,480
Um, but if anybody has got a thought

3057
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:39,119
that some of that debt service capacity

3058
02:03:39,119 --> 02:03:41,520
that's in our operating budget might

3059
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,320
instead of going to this project go to

3060
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,440
meet operating needs, those recurring

3061
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:51,199
operating needs elsewhere, they're either going to continue on and

3062
02:03:51,199 --> 02:03:53,280
then this debt service capability

3063
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:55,360
disappears or they're going to head over

3064
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:57,280
there and have to be pulled right back.

3065
02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:59,679
And and so, you know, and and I think

3066
02:03:59,679 --> 02:04:00,719
we, you know, we've heard the

3067
02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:02,719
expression, and I think in in public

3068
02:04:02,719 --> 02:04:06,000
budgeting, it's long been deemed

3069
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:09,280
it's it's incredibly hard to pull back

3070
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:11,360
something that is supporting a recurring

3071
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:14,960
cost on the service side of an operating

3072
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:18,000
budget when when it's a capital need.

3073
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,480
And so, you know, we've had the ability

3074
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:26,880
in Beverly to do incredibly needed and really high quality and wonderful

3075
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:29,840
projects. Um, and you know, Mr. Als went

3076
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:31,679
through a kind of a laundry list of the

3077
02:04:31,679 --> 02:04:33,520
last 30 years of some of those projects.

3078
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,840
And that's really a big part of the, you

3079
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,480
know, the importance of not thinking of

3080
02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:40,080
this

3081
02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:43,040
5% of our overall operating budget as

3082
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,520
being really flexible to move out of

3083
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:48,239
this area. Thanks.

3084
02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:48,800
Thank you.

3085
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:50,480
>> Thank you, Councilman. Before you jump

3086
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:52,400
in with your question, you are next, but

3087
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:54,639
um it is nine o'clock just after. So, I

3088
02:04:54,639 --> 02:04:56,400
realize these two hearings really do go

3089
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,880
together, but to be proper and not lose

3090
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:01,040
track, um let's reopen that public

3091
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:02,880
hearing on order 10A, which we had

3092
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,040
recessed to 9:00. I'd entertain a motion

3093
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,400
to recess this to 9:20.

3094
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,880
>> Second. All those in favor?

3095
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,119
>> Thank you. So, we'll pick that one back

3096
02:05:13,119 --> 02:05:15,199
up at 9:20, which means that we'll

3097
02:05:15,199 --> 02:05:17,040
circle back. Councelor Husseman, we were

3098
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:18,080
at your question.

3099
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,800
>> Thank you. Um, I guess my question is

3100
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,560
probably for the mayor, might be for Mr.

3101
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,119
Als, and then I have given that we

3102
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:26,639
jumped into the budget side, which I

3103
02:05:26,639 --> 02:05:29,440
thought might wait a little bit on, I I

3104
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:31,840
want to address that a little bit. Um,

3105
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:36,719
my question has to do with um

3106
02:05:36,719 --> 02:05:38,239
communication between the administration

3107
02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:41,757
and the and the council. um uh

3108
02:05:41,757 --> 02:05:43,599
[clears throat] we don't want to go back

3109
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:45,920
to previous experiences where that

3110
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:50,560
communication really wasn't optimal. Um

3111
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:52,639
and so it's important to me that the

3112
02:05:52,639 --> 02:05:57,920
mayor this evening made a commitment to meet with us uh at least some of us

3113
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,719
if those those of us who are interested

3114
02:06:00,719 --> 02:06:02,080
uh every other month rather than

3115
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:05,520
quarterly. Uh and for me that that means

3116
02:06:05,520 --> 02:06:09,440
not just this project uh in particular

3117
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:12,480
um but also the budget as we as that

3118
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:13,679
budget is developed by the

3119
02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:16,480
administration. Um

3120
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,679
my question relates to the RFPs.

3121
02:06:19,679 --> 02:06:22,239
uh uh I believe you said that the

3122
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:24,320
they've been kicked off that the RFP

3123
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:25,920
reply deadline has been kicked off a

3124
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:28,400
couple of weeks and I wonder what you

3125
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:32,400
can share with us regarding um I don't

3126
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:36,639
want to get in the RFP you know mixed up

3127
02:06:36,639 --> 02:06:38,400
going where we shouldn't go at this

3128
02:06:38,400 --> 02:06:40,480
point but what you can share with us in

3129
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:44,159
terms of responses and at least whether

3130
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:46,560
the budget that you've uh presented for

3131
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:50,639
that um looks consistent with what kind

3132
02:06:50,639 --> 02:06:51,920
of replies you're getting if you've

3133
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:55,350
gotten some.

3134
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,880
» So, um,

3135
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,599
so when when councelor Hman refers to

3136
02:07:01,599 --> 02:07:03,679
the RFP and and wanting to stay on the

3137
02:07:03,679 --> 02:07:04,960
right side of things, he's talking about

3138
02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:07,280
state procurement law, right? So, the

3139
02:07:07,280 --> 02:07:10,480
RFP is open. It didn't close. So, we

3140
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,599
haven't haven't received anything. Or

3141
02:07:13,599 --> 02:07:15,679
should I say until it closes, we don't

3142
02:07:15,679 --> 02:07:17,199
open anything that might have been

3143
02:07:17,199 --> 02:07:17,760
received.

3144
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:18,079
>> Okay.

3145
02:07:18,079 --> 02:07:20,719
>> Right. So I know that the purchasing

3146
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:23,520
agent is fielding questions and under

3147
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:25,119
the law if somebody asks him a question

3148
02:07:25,119 --> 02:07:27,280
he can answer for that potential

3149
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:28,800
respondent and then he posts the answer

3150
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,400
on the on the website so that it's

3151
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,800
available to anybody. Um we know there

3152
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:34,960
has been been interest both downtown and

3153
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,199
away from the downtown and one of our

3154
02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:39,679
values is to try to stay downtown. We

3155
02:07:39,679 --> 02:07:42,079
also uh you know months ago we might

3156
02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:44,159
have been thinking we could find all the

3157
02:07:44,159 --> 02:07:46,639
space we needed in one respondent and I

3158
02:07:46,639 --> 02:07:49,440
think it's it's become clear in really

3159
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:50,880
looking around to see what might be

3160
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:54,560
available and um that we need to be

3161
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,040
willing to go into multiple buildings to

3162
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,239
meet our space needs. Um and so that you

3163
02:08:00,239 --> 02:08:02,400
know we we we may have somebody blow us

3164
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,159
away with an offer on all the all the

3165
02:08:04,159 --> 02:08:07,760
space we need or we may find that it's a

3166
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:09,199
you know it's two or three even

3167
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:11,360
different respondents that we might be

3168
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:14,719
able to um

3169
02:08:14,719 --> 02:08:16,400
sign leases with and go in and spend

3170
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,719
time. Um

3171
02:08:18,719 --> 02:08:21,520
certainly our hope is we under the law

3172
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:25,280
we could not um sign a lease with

3173
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:26,960
anybody until we have project budget

3174
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:28,639
approval but we put the RFP out in the

3175
02:08:28,639 --> 02:08:31,040
meantime to try to you know prepare in

3176
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:33,920
case um and in hopes. So that's where we

3177
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:36,719
are. Um I don't know the exact date. Um

3178
02:08:36,719 --> 02:08:39,199
Mr. Gelano extended it out recently and

3179
02:08:39,199 --> 02:08:40,400
I think you said about two and a half

3180
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,480
weeks. Mr. Als

3181
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,159
>> three weeks. Okay.

3182
02:08:44,159 --> 02:08:44,960
>> February.

3183
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,360
>> Oh there you are.

3184
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:50,480
February 6th is the new date and and and

3185
02:08:50,480 --> 02:08:52,320
so we hope we hope that we you know we

3186
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:54,480
have those kind of answers and that kind

3187
02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:56,320
of information in the next few weeks.

3188
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:57,920
>> Okay. Thank you. I mean that kind of

3189
02:08:57,920 --> 02:09:00,800
communication and updates uh at least

3190
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,199
for this counselor are are important for

3191
02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:05,360
the council and having sort of an

3192
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:09,440
oversight role of what's going on with these capital projects. Uh so with

3193
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:14,800
that I just uh uh I want to follow up on

3194
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,199
my the comments of my colleagues to my

3195
02:09:17,199 --> 02:09:21,599
right. Um uh like councelor Feldman um I

3196
02:09:21,599 --> 02:09:23,520
was also on the financial forecasting

3197
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:25,280
committee and a past chair of the

3198
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,440
financial forecasting committee. And for

3199
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:30,480
those of you who are fascinated by uh

3200
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:34,079
municipal finance um uh I would

3201
02:09:34,079 --> 02:09:35,520
encourage you I don't know why you

3202
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:38,719
wouldn't be but uh I'd encourage you to

3203
02:09:38,719 --> 02:09:40,880
uh uh go under the city's website. The

3204
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,440
financial forecast uh is this document.

3205
02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:45,360
you can find it online and you can learn

3206
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:47,520
an awful lot about the background of the

3207
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:49,440
kind of conversation we are having right

3208
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:54,400
now. Um so um with that I I think you

3209
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,440
know uh citizens who hear that we have a

3210
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,000
structural deficit

3211
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,480
and then hear that we want to spend $25

3212
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,920
million on uh a city hall renovation

3213
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:09,199
project uh might fairly say what is

3214
02:10:09,199 --> 02:10:12,400
going on uh like Mr. Marciano mentioned

3215
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:15,599
uh earlier. Um you know I I think that's

3216
02:10:15,599 --> 02:10:17,119
a very fair question. How do you

3217
02:10:17,119 --> 02:10:20,719
reconcile those two things? So the

3218
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:22,719
question before the council and on these

3219
02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:25,840
votes uh is whether the cost of regular

3220
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:27,199
maintenance should be considered a

3221
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:30,000
fundamental uh part of a sustainable

3222
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,639
budget. Uh like not changing the oil in

3223
02:10:32,639 --> 02:10:34,239
your car. You can get away with not

3224
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:36,239
doing regular maintenance for a while,

3225
02:10:36,239 --> 02:10:38,159
but in the long run it'll have bad

3226
02:10:38,159 --> 02:10:40,480
consequences. It'll catch up with you.

3227
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:42,880
Uh if the cost of regular maintenance is

3228
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,199
not included in your household budget,

3229
02:10:45,199 --> 02:10:46,960
eventually you'll be faced with large

3230
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:49,840
bills uh like buying a new car if you

3231
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,079
didn't change the oil. Uh that you might

3232
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:56,159
find uh difficult to to manage. Uh the

3233
02:10:56,159 --> 02:10:58,560
same is essentially true for the city.

3234
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,159
It's important to keep the cost of

3235
02:11:00,159 --> 02:11:01,520
regular maintenance of our

3236
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,079
infrastructure uh in our budget

3237
02:11:04,079 --> 02:11:05,599
annually.

3238
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:08,639
Um the question is has been posed by

3239
02:11:08,639 --> 02:11:11,520
some letters to the council uh and this

3240
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:14,960
evening uh by some of our speakers about

3241
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:16,400
why not take the money that we would

3242
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,239
spend on capital expenditure project

3243
02:11:18,239 --> 02:11:21,360
like the city hall uh renovation and use

3244
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:23,840
it to close well the suggestion is use

3245
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,760
it to close the structural deficit in

3246
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,560
other words help close the gap that we

3247
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,719
are talking about. So why not why would

3248
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:33,920
we not do that? Um

3249
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:35,840
uh so in other words, the idea we would

3250
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:38,400
spend that those saved funds, funds we

3251
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:40,159
don't use for a capital expenditure, uh

3252
02:11:40,159 --> 02:11:42,480
debt payment, uh and instead use them

3253
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,679
for ongoing operating expenses comprised

3254
02:11:45,679 --> 02:11:47,599
for the city's budget mostly of labor

3255
02:11:47,599 --> 02:11:49,920
costs for teachers, DPW workers, police,

3256
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:53,840
firefighters, etc. Um, and as councelor

3257
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:55,599
Feldman said, there's there's sort of an

3258
02:11:55,599 --> 02:11:58,560
apples and an oranges aspect to this uh

3259
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:01,119
that is really specific to perhaps

3260
02:12:01,119 --> 02:12:04,079
municipal finance that the lay person or

3261
02:12:04,079 --> 02:12:05,599
someone who hasn't served on the council

3262
02:12:05,599 --> 02:12:08,960
for a while uh might not really truly um

3263
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:14,239
understand. Um so um

3264
02:12:14,239 --> 02:12:16,960
first the amount of debt. So the

3265
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:19,760
question the question is um what is the

3266
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:23,679
cause of our structural uh deficit? Uh

3267
02:12:23,679 --> 02:12:25,679
is it the amount of debt that the city

3268
02:12:25,679 --> 02:12:28,400
pays for its capital projects? Uh do we

3269
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:30,320
have too much debt? And the answer is

3270
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:32,000
no, we don't. In fact, we've seen in

3271
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,639
tonight's presentation uh and on the you

3272
02:12:34,639 --> 02:12:36,000
know the charts that were in the

3273
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:38,480
PowerPoint uh that the percent of the

3274
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:40,320
city's debt burden carried in our

3275
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,880
operating budget in fact has gone down,

3276
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:45,199
not gone up in recent years. And Mr.

3277
02:12:45,199 --> 02:12:46,960
Perry has suggested that that even is

3278
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:48,639
problematic for us and perhaps it would

3279
02:12:48,639 --> 02:12:50,239
be healthier for the city to have a

3280
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:52,960
larger amount. But be that as it may.

3281
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:56,320
The second question we should ask is

3282
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:58,079
what is the cause of our structural

3283
02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:01,679
deficit? Is it the debt that the city

3284
02:13:01,679 --> 02:13:06,000
pays? And the answer is essentially it's

3285
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:09,119
inflation. It's the long tale uh in part

3286
02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:12,079
the long tale of a fiscal response to to

3287
02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:14,639
co 19. We all know, we have all the

3288
02:13:14,639 --> 02:13:17,040
experienced that costs have been rising

3289
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:19,920
pretty much on everything since 2020,

3290
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,880
since the since co and they've been

3291
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:25,119
rising at a rate greater than 2 and a

3292
02:13:25,119 --> 02:13:28,000
half% which is the annual limit on the

3293
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,320
amount of tax revenue that the city can

3294
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:32,560
raise to pay its expenses. So

3295
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:35,040
specifically, and this is taken uh these

3296
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:36,960
next three items are taken from the

3297
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,440
financial forecast which I encourage you

3298
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:43,199
to take a look at. Um so uh what is the

3299
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:45,679
cause of our structural deficit? Well,

3300
02:13:45,679 --> 02:13:48,400
the city's budget can increase by 2 and

3301
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:52,719
a half% per year. Uh simplistically put

3302
02:13:52,719 --> 02:13:56,560
uh but the municipal budget um

3303
02:13:56,560 --> 02:14:02,400
anticipates this is what's coming up in this uh in this nest fiscal year. The

3304
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,840
municipal budget uh anticipates a 4.3%

3305
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,480
increase from the prior year.

3306
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,719
Um some of these re some of these

3307
02:14:10,719 --> 02:14:12,079
reasons for this increase are

3308
02:14:12,079 --> 02:14:14,000
attributable to legally binding fixed

3309
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:16,719
costs like pensions, collective

3310
02:14:16,719 --> 02:14:19,520
bargaining unit agreements, health care.

3311
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:22,800
80% in our case for the city, 80% of

3312
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:25,360
municipal employees uh health costs are

3313
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,760
paid by the city. That's a generous

3314
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,320
amount compared to the private sector.

3315
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:33,440
Another item is Beverly Public School uh

3316
02:14:33,440 --> 02:14:37,520
district anticipates a 5.27 27 increase

3317
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:40,000
from the prior year. The main reason for

3318
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:43,040
this increase is attributable to um our

3319
02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:45,360
recently um approved collective

3320
02:14:45,360 --> 02:14:48,400
bargaining agreements. And the third is

3321
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,800
our vocational school assessment

3322
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,760
anticipates a [clears throat] 13.6

3323
02:14:53,760 --> 02:14:57,119
uh% increase from the prior fiscal year

3324
02:14:57,119 --> 02:14:59,840
due to enrollment increases, meaning we

3325
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:02,480
are sending more uh students to the

3326
02:15:02,480 --> 02:15:05,520
voke, which is a terrific thing. But if

3327
02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:08,239
you compare the 2 and a.5% revenue

3328
02:15:08,239 --> 02:15:11,199
increase the city is limited to to the

3329
02:15:11,199 --> 02:15:14,880
4.3% on the municipal budget, the 5.27

3330
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:18,000
on the school budget, uh the 13.66

3331
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,079
increase for v vocational school

3332
02:15:20,079 --> 02:15:22,719
enrollment, you can see that there's a

3333
02:15:22,719 --> 02:15:25,520
problem and that is where our structural

3334
02:15:25,520 --> 02:15:28,079
deficit is coming from. And without

3335
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:30,880
addressing those costs, the structural

3336
02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:33,119
deficit will remain.

3337
02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:37,440
um it will be a hard, challenging and

3338
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,239
probably painful exercise for us to do

3339
02:15:40,239 --> 02:15:43,199
in this year's budget. But to avoid that

3340
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:48,960
task, those those components um uh uh

3341
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:51,760
but to avoid that task by objecting to a

3342
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:53,599
capital expenditure cost for the city

3343
02:15:53,599 --> 02:15:57,440
renovation project is to miscast both

3344
02:15:57,440 --> 02:16:00,159
the problem and its solution. The

3345
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:03,280
problem does not lie with a a debt pro,

3346
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:04,880
you know, taking on debt like uh the

3347
02:16:04,880 --> 02:16:07,040
city hall renovation project is

3348
02:16:07,040 --> 02:16:12,320
proposed. Um and um objecting to the

3349
02:16:12,320 --> 02:16:15,440
using um uh using the capital

3350
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:17,760
expenditure problem uh excuse me, I

3351
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:21,119
misspoke. Uh objecting to that task um

3352
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:23,199
by objecting to the capital cost of the

3353
02:16:23,199 --> 02:16:25,040
renovation project is to miscast both

3354
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:27,520
the problem and its solution. The

3355
02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:29,520
solution is tackling those items that I

3356
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,559
just mentioned. Uh and not only that, if

3357
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:34,479
you remove the cost of the debt

3358
02:16:34,479 --> 02:16:37,200
expenditure capital cost of the capital

3359
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,920
expenditure debt from our budget, it

3360
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:42,240
will create an additional problem. Our

3361
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:44,160
debt capacity is a measure of our

3362
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:46,639
municipal financial health. And if we do

3363
02:16:46,639 --> 02:16:48,960
not include a sufficient level of debt

3364
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:51,359
payments in our annual budgets, our

3365
02:16:51,359 --> 02:16:53,120
capacity to undertake ongoing

3366
02:16:53,120 --> 02:16:54,960
infrastructure projects like we're

3367
02:16:54,960 --> 02:16:56,880
listed that long list of things that

3368
02:16:56,880 --> 02:16:58,399
we've been able to accomplish over the

3369
02:16:58,399 --> 02:17:02,000
years um that ability including for

3370
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:05,040
example school roofs coming up uh that

3371
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:07,280
uh capacity will be will be deeply

3372
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:11,120
compromised. So for for the reason I say

3373
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:13,760
here, I encourage my colleagues to vote

3374
02:17:13,760 --> 02:17:17,359
in favor of both of these projects um

3375
02:17:17,359 --> 02:17:19,519
with the understanding that we'll have

3376
02:17:19,519 --> 02:17:20,880
good communication from the

3377
02:17:20,880 --> 02:17:23,040
administration on how they uh how they

3378
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:24,559
proceed.

3379
02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:25,359
>> Thank you.

3380
02:17:25,359 --> 02:17:27,599
councelor. Um I think what

3381
02:17:27,599 --> 02:17:28,639
I'd like to do, I know councelor

3382
02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:30,880
Sinclair, you're waiting. Um, it seems

3383
02:17:30,880 --> 02:17:32,960
like if if we'll have time you as a

3384
02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:34,399
council when this comes back for the

3385
02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:36,080
final vote, if councilors have

3386
02:17:36,080 --> 02:17:38,000
reflections or or reasons that you're

3387
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:38,960
voting the way you are that you want to

3388
02:17:38,960 --> 02:17:41,519
offer, I think we'll go to those. I

3389
02:17:41,519 --> 02:17:43,599
think if there's any further questions

3390
02:17:43,599 --> 02:17:45,120
for the team in the context of the

3391
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:47,760
public hearing, let's do those now. Um,

3392
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:49,599
because it seems like we may be ready to

3393
02:17:49,599 --> 02:17:52,160
move from the public hearing portion

3394
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:54,000
forward. So, um, councelor St. Hillary,

3395
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:56,479
you were waiting, so we'll go to you.

3396
02:17:56,479 --> 02:17:58,080
>> So, I just want to follow up on a couple

3397
02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:00,000
points. One is the capital versus

3398
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:02,399
operating budget discussion. Um, in the

3399
02:18:02,399 --> 02:18:04,535
point from councelor Feldman, I

3400
02:18:04,535 --> 02:18:06,000
[clears throat] just wanted to be clear,

3401
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:09,519
uh, Mr. Als, this is general fund money,

3402
02:18:09,519 --> 02:18:11,599
$2 million in our general fund operating

3403
02:18:11,599 --> 02:18:13,439
budget that we dedicate for for debt

3404
02:18:13,439 --> 02:18:15,439
service. That's a policy choice. Those

3405
02:18:15,439 --> 02:18:16,800
dollars could be used for something

3406
02:18:16,800 --> 02:18:18,639
else. Correct.

3407
02:18:18,639 --> 02:18:20,559
>> Is general fun.

3408
02:18:20,559 --> 02:18:22,319
>> Okay. So, we could use this for anything

3409
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:26,709
then.

3410
02:18:26,719 --> 02:18:29,120
» Correct.

3411
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,280
the debt service, correct? Comes out of

3412
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:33,599
the operating budget.

3413
02:18:33,599 --> 02:18:35,359
>> Thank you. Uh to answer your question,

3414
02:18:35,359 --> 02:18:39,519
councelor, legally, if you decide not to

3415
02:18:39,519 --> 02:18:42,800
approve this project, you can use that

3416
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:45,200
$2 million in whatever manner that the

3417
02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:47,040
mayor would present to you and then

3418
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:48,800
obviously you would have to vote upon.

3419
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:49,439
>> Of course,

3420
02:18:49,439 --> 02:18:51,760
>> you have restrictions

3421
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,639
on the debt stabilization transfer

3422
02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:56,399
though. That's a little bit different.

3423
02:18:56,399 --> 02:18:58,240
But but if you were to decide not to do

3424
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,399
this, yes, you are correct. You have

3425
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:04,080
that legal authority to do uh what you

3426
02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:07,040
want subject to the mayor giving you uh

3427
02:19:07,040 --> 02:19:08,160
his budget.

3428
02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:10,240
>> Okay. So, you know, I I guess what I'm

3429
02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:11,840
struggling with is, you know, I all

3430
02:19:11,840 --> 02:19:14,080
agree with best practice. You know, I'd

3431
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:17,920
love to be at 7%, too. Um but, you know,

3432
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:19,439
last year we zeroed out road and

3433
02:19:19,439 --> 02:19:21,439
sidewalks in the budget. No money for

3434
02:19:21,439 --> 02:19:23,599
road and sidewalks. So, next year we're

3435
02:19:23,599 --> 02:19:25,359
going to have $2 million dedicated to

3436
02:19:25,359 --> 02:19:27,120
the new city hall and no money for road

3437
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:30,080
and sidewalks. It seems like, you know,

3438
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:31,920
we're not in the in the right place

3439
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:35,120
there. And, you know, for me, again,

3440
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:37,120
some of these some of these financial

3441
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:39,519
challenges we're facing. I'm not sure,

3442
02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:41,760
mayor, if they're if they're as easily

3443
02:19:41,760 --> 02:19:43,200
uh, you know, handled as as you're

3444
02:19:43,200 --> 02:19:45,200
suggesting or if the financial

3445
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:46,800
forecasting committee was on to to

3446
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:49,280
bigger challenges, but I'm going to have

3447
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:50,960
a hard time voting to approve this

3448
02:19:50,960 --> 02:19:52,720
without understanding that further. That

3449
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:55,200
that's just where I'm at.

3450
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,120
>> Thank you, councelor.

3451
02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:58,880
Are there any other questions from

3452
02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:01,040
counselors at this point on this public

3453
02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:04,469
hearing?

3454
02:20:04,479 --> 02:20:06,319
Okay. Thank you. Thank you counselors

3455
02:20:06,319 --> 02:20:08,080
for the questions and discussion. We'll

3456
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:09,680
close the public hearing on order number

3457
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:11,120
10 and refer that back to the committee

3458
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:13,600
on finance and property. And that does

3459
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:16,000
bring us just right on time to where we

3460
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:18,000
had suggested we would pick up the

3461
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,560
public hearing on order 10A. And as

3462
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:22,000
we've said several times, of course,

3463
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:23,760
these are these are tied together.

3464
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,000
They're two different uh pieces of the

3465
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,200
funding proposed funding for the city

3466
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:30,640
hall project which we heard the team

3467
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:34,399
present about. Um Mr. Als or Mr. May I

3468
02:20:34,399 --> 02:20:35,840
don't know if either of you had anything

3469
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:37,600
you want to say just by way of opening

3470
02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:41,040
up 10A itself.

3471
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:43,280
>> Mr. Als, you should come up. I I just if

3472
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:45,520
I could, Madame President, I just want

3473
02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:47,600
to be fair to Council St. Heler and fair

3474
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:50,720
to myself. Um I didn't mean to give you

3475
02:20:50,720 --> 02:20:52,000
the impression that I thought it would

3476
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:54,560
be easy to pass our budget this coming

3477
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:56,960
June and balance it. I was just trying

3478
02:20:56,960 --> 02:21:00,479
to say that's our job and so we will and

3479
02:21:00,479 --> 02:21:02,160
it's going to be much of the work of the

3480
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,240
next several months. So I I didn't mean

3481
02:21:04,240 --> 02:21:05,600
to give you the impression that I'm not

3482
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,920
mindful of the challenge that challenges

3483
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,240
that are coming with it this goound.

3484
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:14,230
Thanks.

3485
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:18,000
Uh so just to clarify this portion uh or

3486
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:20,560
this public hearing has to do with the

3487
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:22,960
$2 million uh debt stabilization

3488
02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:26,880
transfer. Uh so right now we have not we

3489
02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:28,880
have two stabilization funds. So don't

3490
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:30,160
confuse the two. We've got a general

3491
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:32,399
stabilization fund which receives money

3492
02:21:32,399 --> 02:21:34,640
every uh year through the free cash

3493
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:36,640
certification process and requests from

3494
02:21:36,640 --> 02:21:38,960
the mayor. We also have a debt

3495
02:21:38,960 --> 02:21:40,640
stabilization transfer. It has $2

3496
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:43,040
million in it and it's designed to

3497
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:46,319
service future debt in lie of borrowing.

3498
02:21:46,319 --> 02:21:48,000
And so that's why the request is to

3499
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:49,920
transfer that money into this project

3500
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:52,240
and reduce the amount we ultimately will

3501
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:53,680
borrow.

3502
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:55,359
>> Thank you. Mr. Als

3503
02:21:55,359 --> 02:21:57,280
>> Mr. Perry, anything that you'd like to

3504
02:21:57,280 --> 02:22:00,000
add as we're getting into um specific

3505
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:01,439
conversation on

3506
02:22:01,439 --> 02:22:03,680
>> I'll try to be extremely brief. Uh as I

3507
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:06,399
wrote into my uh memo, uh I do recommend

3508
02:22:06,399 --> 02:22:08,399
that you do this to refresh your memory.

3509
02:22:08,399 --> 02:22:09,840
We made these transfers several years

3510
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:11,200
ago. I'm glad to see the state

3511
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:12,880
representative with us here. We had some

3512
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:14,880
debate with her on this issue. This is

3513
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:16,720
part of the long range planning. We set

3514
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:19,120
this money aside for this purpose.

3515
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:20,800
That's what we did two or three years

3516
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:22,960
ago, I think it was. Uh so there is $2

3517
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:25,359
million. you can do it. [clears throat]

3518
02:22:25,359 --> 02:22:28,880
Uh under new uh new legislation in two

3519
02:22:28,880 --> 02:22:32,960
2023, the council uh on special uh

3520
02:22:32,960 --> 02:22:34,800
stabilization funds, you're only

3521
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:36,880
required to do a majority vote, not a

3522
02:22:36,880 --> 02:22:39,359
two-thirds vote. Uh the loan order does

3523
02:22:39,359 --> 02:22:41,040
require two/3s, but this one is only a

3524
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,359
majority vote uh on special uh

3525
02:22:43,359 --> 02:22:45,040
stabilization funds. And madam

3526
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:50,000
president, I know we spoke about this um in terms of the timing of which ones

3527
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:51,920
you bring up first. I'd recommend to the

3528
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:54,560
council that uh when you come back after

3529
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:56,640
your committee work or what have you, I

3530
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:59,280
would suggest that we do the loan order

3531
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:02,399
first. See if the council decides they

3532
02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:04,479
want to uh approve that. That's

3533
02:23:04,479 --> 02:23:06,960
certainly up to the nine of you. If you

3534
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:08,960
decide to do it, then it makes sense to

3535
02:23:08,960 --> 02:23:10,960
as part of the package to look at the

3536
02:23:10,960 --> 02:23:13,439
debt stabilization as your second vote.

3537
02:23:13,439 --> 02:23:16,160
However, if the loan order does not meet

3538
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,800
the twothirds vote, it would be to me a

3539
02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:20,399
moot. I would recommend not to transfer

3540
02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:22,399
the funds at that time because it'd be

3541
02:23:22,399 --> 02:23:24,240
kind of crazy to do that first and then

3542
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:26,399
not get the loan order. So, uh bottom

3543
02:23:26,399 --> 02:23:28,560
line, madame uh president, members of

3544
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:30,240
council, there's sufficient funds there.

3545
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:32,160
I recommend that you transfer the funds.

3546
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:32,880
Thank you.

3547
02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:36,080
>> Thank you, Mr. Perry. Uh again, I am

3548
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:37,280
aware that members of the public, you've

3549
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:38,479
been with us, you've been listening for

3550
02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:40,319
a while. Uh no one had signed up to

3551
02:23:40,319 --> 02:23:41,600
speak in this public hearing

3552
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:43,280
specifically. Were there any members of

3553
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:45,439
the public who hoped to speak in the

3554
02:23:45,439 --> 02:23:47,280
public hearing on the debt stabilization

3555
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,720
transfer request?

3556
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:54,000
Okay, thank you. Thank you, Miss Kent.

3557
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:56,319
Councilors, are there any questions uh

3558
02:23:56,319 --> 02:23:59,520
pertaining to 10A, which is, as we just

3559
02:23:59,520 --> 02:24:01,520
heard, the request for a transfer from

3560
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:07,270
the debt stabilization fund?

3561
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:10,560
Okay. Um, thank you. I will close this

3562
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,240
public hearing as well. refer that back

3563
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:13,760
to the committee on finance and property

3564
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:15,760
for further action this evening. Thank

3565
02:24:15,760 --> 02:24:17,920
you again to uh the team that came here

3566
02:24:17,920 --> 02:24:19,680
and presented this evening. Thank you

3567
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:21,600
members of the public uh both those who

3568
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:23,200
spoke and also those who have been with

3569
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:25,520
us listening and engaging and thank you

3570
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:27,120
members of the council for the questions

3571
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:30,319
and conversation. I know we do have um

3572
02:24:30,319 --> 02:24:33,359
our our regular business to get to um

3573
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:35,040
but I also am aware that everyone's been

3574
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:36,240
sitting for quite a while. So, I don't

3575
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:38,720
just need a motion just for a two-minute

3576
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:40,319
recess if people need to get up and move

3577
02:24:40,319 --> 02:24:41,280
for a second.

3578
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:41,680
>> Second.

3579
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:43,120
>> All those in favor?

3580
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:45,120
>> Thank you. Take a quick recess and be

3581
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:46,800
back if you need a stretch or a bathroom

3582
02:24:46,800 --> 02:25:33,270
break.

3583
02:25:33,280 --> 02:28:38,630
Heat. Heat.

3584
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:40,880
So, we'll call the full council back to

3585
02:28:40,880 --> 02:28:43,990
order.

3586
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:47,359
Thank you everyone

3587
02:28:47,359 --> 02:28:50,319
and thank you for uh counselors for

3588
02:28:50,319 --> 02:28:51,840
approving that little recess. It seemed

3589
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:53,280
like perhaps we all needed a chance to

3590
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:56,560
stretch our legs or um get some water.

3591
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:59,680
So, Miss Kent, we'll jump into the rest

3592
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:02,000
of our regular business on our agenda

3593
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:04,080
and move through that. Let's begin with

3594
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:05,600
acceptance of minutes of previous

3595
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:08,080
meetings. We have three sets of meeting

3596
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:09,280
minutes that we can approve this

3597
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:11,600
evening. The first is from our regular

3598
02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:14,880
city council meeting December 1st, 2025.

3599
02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:16,399
Then a set of minutes from our regular

3600
02:29:16,399 --> 02:29:19,680
city council meeting December 15, 2025.

3601
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:21,680
And the third our regular city council

3602
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:25,200
meeting January 5th, 2026.

3603
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,800
Is there a motion to approve these three

3604
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:28,399
sets of minutes?

3605
02:29:28,399 --> 02:29:30,399
>> All those in favor?

3606
02:29:30,399 --> 02:29:32,720
>> Thank you. That carries 90 and those are

3607
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:34,319
approved.

3608
02:29:34,319 --> 02:29:35,840
Let's go to communications from his

3609
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:37,680
honor the mayor. Please, Miss Kent.

3610
02:29:37,680 --> 02:29:40,080
>> Order number 18, a donation of $3,000

3611
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:42,000
from the Beverly Female Charitable

3612
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,399
Society to support the Council on Aging.

3613
02:29:44,399 --> 02:29:45,680
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3614
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:46,800
Finance and Property.

3615
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,280
>> Order number 19, a donation of $10,000

3616
02:29:49,280 --> 02:29:52,160
anonymous for anonymously for the

3617
02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:53,359
Council on Aging.

3618
02:29:53,359 --> 02:29:54,560
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3619
02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:55,600
Finance and Property.

3620
02:29:55,600 --> 02:30:00,800
>> Order number 20, a 100 1,6und,00

3621
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:02,800
63,964

3622
02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:06,080
911 EOPSS OGR support and incentive

3623
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:06,560
grant.

3624
02:30:06,560 --> 02:30:07,680
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3625
02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:08,720
finance and property.

3626
02:30:08,720 --> 02:30:11,760
>> Order number 21 of 69,632

3627
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:17,120
and28 911 EOPSS OGR 911 training grant.

3628
02:30:17,120 --> 02:30:18,319
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3629
02:30:18,319 --> 02:30:19,200
finance and property.

3630
02:30:19,200 --> 02:30:22,000
>> Order number 22, a mass D technical

3631
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:23,040
assistant grant.

3632
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:24,240
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3633
02:30:24,240 --> 02:30:26,240
finance and property as well. Board

3634
02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:29,680
number 23, a $2,500 Mass Executive

3635
02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:32,080
Office, Office of Labor and Workforce

3636
02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:33,760
Development, Workplace Safety and

3637
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:34,720
Education Grant.

3638
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:36,000
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3639
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:37,040
Finance and Property.

3640
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:39,040
>> Order number 24, a Mass Tech

3641
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:41,680
collaborative mass broadband institute

3642
02:30:41,680 --> 02:30:45,280
connected and online grant. Please refer

3643
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:46,479
that to the Committee on Finance and

3644
02:30:46,479 --> 02:30:47,120
Property.

3645
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:50,880
>> Order number 25, a $15,000 Mass Cultural

3646
02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:52,720
Council Cultural District Investment

3647
02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:54,960
Grant. Please refer that as well to the

3648
02:30:54,960 --> 02:30:56,319
committee on finance and property.

3649
02:30:56,319 --> 02:30:58,880
>> Order number 26, a donation of $100 from

3650
02:30:58,880 --> 02:31:01,920
David Mandanka to be used to purchase

3651
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:03,760
Shaw's gift cards for veterans.

3652
02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:04,880
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3653
02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:05,920
finance and property.

3654
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:10,560
>> Order number 27, a $550,000 grant, SEO

3655
02:31:10,560 --> 02:31:12,479
economic council grant for commercial

3656
02:31:12,479 --> 02:31:15,280
hoist pier reconstruction.

3657
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:16,560
>> Just to change things up, we'll send

3658
02:31:16,560 --> 02:31:20,950
that to finance and property. [laughter]

3659
02:31:20,960 --> 02:31:22,880
Order number 28, a reappointment for

3660
02:31:22,880 --> 02:31:25,120
Corey Finanella, 30 Bow Street to serve

3661
02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:26,800
on the zoning board of appeals.

3662
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:27,920
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3663
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:28,640
legal affairs.

3664
02:31:28,640 --> 02:31:30,160
>> Order number 29, a reappointment for

3665
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:32,319
Chad Pendell, 59 Lup Street to serve on

3666
02:31:32,319 --> 02:31:34,000
the Beverly Golf and Tennis Commission.

3667
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:35,280
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3668
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:36,479
public services.

3669
02:31:36,479 --> 02:31:38,319
>> Order number 30, a reappointment for Kev

3670
02:31:38,319 --> 02:31:41,439
Kevin as Lilo for Sherwood Lane to serve

3671
02:31:41,439 --> 02:31:42,800
on the Beverly Golf and Tennis

3672
02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:43,439
Commission.

3673
02:31:43,439 --> 02:31:44,720
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3674
02:31:44,720 --> 02:31:46,640
Public Services. Order number 31, a

3675
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:49,040
reappointment for Arthur Athenius, 77

3676
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:50,399
Hail Street to serve on the Beverly Golf

3677
02:31:50,399 --> 02:31:51,439
and Tennis Commission.

3678
02:31:51,439 --> 02:31:52,640
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3679
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:53,920
public services as well.

3680
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:56,800
>> Order number 32, a $50 donation from

3681
02:31:56,800 --> 02:31:59,680
John Lindal in memory of Daniel Beecher,

3682
02:31:59,680 --> 02:32:02,000
the owner of Northshore Carpet to ser

3683
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,600
support the Beverly Police Department.

3684
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:04,800
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3685
02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:06,960
finance and property. Let's go to

3686
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:08,720
communications from other city officers

3687
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:10,160
and boards. Please, Miss Kent.

3688
02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:12,560
>> Order number 33 from the city clerk. A

3689
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:14,160
renewal application for taxi delivery

3690
02:32:14,160 --> 02:32:16,800
license for Tri City Services 55 Rare

3691
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:18,319
Walnut Street PVD.

3692
02:32:18,319 --> 02:32:19,520
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3693
02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:20,479
legal affairs.

3694
02:32:20,479 --> 02:32:22,319
>> Order number 34 from the city clerk. A

3695
02:32:22,319 --> 02:32:24,080
renewal application for a class 2 motor

3696
02:32:24,080 --> 02:32:25,920
vehicle license for AJ's mobile

3697
02:32:25,920 --> 02:32:28,399
detailing at 453 rearr.

3698
02:32:28,399 --> 02:32:29,680
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3699
02:32:29,680 --> 02:32:31,200
legal affairs as well.

3700
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:32,960
>> Order number 35 from the city clerk. A

3701
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:34,720
renewal application for class 2 motor

3702
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:36,399
vehicle deal license for American

3703
02:32:36,399 --> 02:32:38,880
petroleum at 586 Cat Street.

3704
02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:40,080
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3705
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,160
legal affairs. Order number 36 from the

3706
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:44,160
city clerk. A renewal renewal

3707
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:45,920
application for class 2 motor vehicle

3708
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:49,120
deal license for bridto corp dva auto

3709
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:52,560
dine at 810 rare rav. Please refer that

3710
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:53,381
to the committee on legal

3711
02:32:53,381 --> 02:32:54,240
[clears throat] affairs.

3712
02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:56,479
>> Order number 37 from councelor retundo

3713
02:32:56,479 --> 02:32:58,800
and spang the 2025 Beverly Harbor

3714
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,760
Management Authority annual report.

3715
02:33:01,760 --> 02:33:03,520
>> Councilors Rattendo and Spang, thank you

3716
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:06,000
for filing this for us and updating us.

3717
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:07,280
Anything that you wanted to say about

3718
02:33:07,280 --> 02:33:10,640
this report at this time? Uh counselors,

3719
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:12,080
I would entertain a motion to receive

3720
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:14,479
that report and place it on file.

3721
02:33:14,479 --> 02:33:16,399
>> All those in favor?

3722
02:33:16,399 --> 02:33:18,319
>> That carries 90. And so we'll place that

3723
02:33:18,319 --> 02:33:20,319
on file. And thank you again counselors

3724
02:33:20,319 --> 02:33:23,120
Ratundo and Spang for your order number

3725
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:25,040
38 from the city clerk. A request for

3726
02:33:25,040 --> 02:33:26,960
police officers at the polling locations

3727
02:33:26,960 --> 02:33:30,160
for the 2026 elections. Councilors, I

3728
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:32,560
would entertain a motion to approve this

3729
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:35,120
on the floor.

3730
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:36,720
>> Is there any further discussion or

3731
02:33:36,720 --> 02:33:40,319
questions? All those in favor

3732
02:33:40,319 --> 02:33:42,720
carries 90 and that one is approved.

3733
02:33:42,720 --> 02:33:43,280
Thank you.

3734
02:33:43,280 --> 02:33:45,200
>> Order number 39 from the city clerk. A

3735
02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:46,560
renewal application for a Hawkins and

3736
02:33:46,560 --> 02:33:48,640
Pedals license for George Samson 22

3737
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:49,520
Fendle Street.

3738
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:50,720
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3739
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:51,520
legal affairs.

3740
02:33:51,520 --> 02:33:53,600
>> Order number 40 from councelor Spang,

3741
02:33:53,600 --> 02:33:56,479
public services committee priorities.

3742
02:33:56,479 --> 02:33:57,760
>> Councelor Spang, anything you want to

3743
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:00,160
say about order number 40?

3744
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:01,680
>> Thank you. Please refer that to the

3745
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:03,280
committee on public services.

3746
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:05,200
>> Order 41 from the city clerk. a new

3747
02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:06,800
application for a taxi delivery license

3748
02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:09,280
for Bass River Day Activity Program,

3749
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:12,319
Inc. DBA, Bass River, Inc. 437 Essex

3750
02:34:12,319 --> 02:34:12,960
Street.

3751
02:34:12,960 --> 02:34:14,160
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3752
02:34:14,160 --> 02:34:16,560
legal affairs. Order number 42 from

3753
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:18,640
President Flowers and Council St. Helier

3754
02:34:18,640 --> 02:34:21,520
and Mady, a proposal to create a COVID

3755
02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:23,280
memorial subcommittee.

3756
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:25,040
>> Councelor Mady or Councelor St. Helier,

3757
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:26,240
anything that you wanted to say about

3758
02:34:26,240 --> 02:34:30,389
this one at this point?

3759
02:34:30,399 --> 02:34:33,280
» Okay. Uh, thank you. Thank you both. So

3760
02:34:33,280 --> 02:34:34,800
we'll refer that to the committee on

3761
02:34:34,800 --> 02:34:36,880
legal affairs and thank you for your

3762
02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:38,319
work on that one.

3763
02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:40,399
>> Order number 43 from council Feldman and

3764
02:34:40,399 --> 02:34:42,240
Mady, a proposal to create a temporary

3765
02:34:42,240 --> 02:34:44,080
special committee to explore options for

3766
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:46,560
addressing the looming 2027 forecasted

3767
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:48,080
budget deficit.

3768
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:50,000
>> Councelor Feldman. Councelor Mady, same

3769
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:51,359
question for you. Anything you'd like to

3770
02:34:51,359 --> 02:34:53,680
say at this point about this one?

3771
02:34:53,680 --> 02:34:56,240
>> Um,

3772
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:59,120
but excited we got

3773
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:01,760
>> agenda. Uh, thank you councelor Felman.

3774
02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:03,359
I'm only sorry that your microphone was

3775
02:35:03,359 --> 02:35:05,120
on mute [laughter]

3776
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:06,319
so that people couldn't hear you

3777
02:35:06,319 --> 02:35:08,000
celebrate the use of the word looming.

3778
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:09,920
Yes. Uh so we'll refer that to the

3779
02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:11,439
committee on finance and property,

3780
02:35:11,439 --> 02:35:13,840
please. Board number 44, the director of

3781
02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:15,200
planning, Darlene Winn, approve a

3782
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:16,960
conservation restriction to the Essex

3783
02:35:16,960 --> 02:35:18,800
County Green Belt Association on land

3784
02:35:18,800 --> 02:35:21,200
owned by the city of Beverly, 14 and 34

3785
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:22,800
Simon Street.

3786
02:35:22,800 --> 02:35:24,080
>> Thank you. And counselors, I just want

3787
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:26,160
to draw your attention to our uh

3788
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:28,240
planning director submitted a slightly

3789
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:30,720
changed version of order 44. Uh the

3790
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:32,000
change really was just to replace the

3791
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:33,680
signature lines to ensure that they were

3792
02:35:33,680 --> 02:35:35,200
written as the registry of deeds would

3793
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:37,359
need them. Um and we'll refer that to

3794
02:35:37,359 --> 02:35:39,359
the committee on legal affairs. Order

3795
02:35:39,359 --> 02:35:41,280
number 45, the assistant city solicitor

3796
02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:42,880
Jesse Dole proposed amendments to

3797
02:35:42,880 --> 02:35:46,240
chapter 117-6 for dog kennel licensing.

3798
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:47,520
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3799
02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:50,000
legal affairs. Order number 46 for

3800
02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:51,680
president Flowers temporary appointment

3801
02:35:51,680 --> 02:35:54,160
of clerk of committees. Councilors, I

3802
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,319
would entertain a motion also to approve

3803
02:35:56,319 --> 02:35:58,080
this on the floor.

3804
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:00,399
>> Second. Uh, is there any further

3805
02:36:00,399 --> 02:36:03,040
discussion or conversation?

3806
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:05,280
>> I would just like to say uh a word of

3807
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:07,120
congratulations to our current assistant

3808
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:09,200
city clerk, Miss Dupont. Um, the reason

3809
02:36:09,200 --> 02:36:11,120
for this temporary appointment of Miss

3810
02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:12,880
Kent to be the acting clerk of

3811
02:36:12,880 --> 02:36:14,640
committees is because Miss Dupont is

3812
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:16,479
moving on to become a town clerk

3813
02:36:16,479 --> 02:36:19,200
herself. And so, um, thank you, Miss

3814
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:20,399
Dupont, for the work that you've done

3815
02:36:20,399 --> 02:36:23,200
here. And you'll be missed. And also,

3816
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:25,520
um, we are very confident that you are

3817
02:36:25,520 --> 02:36:26,800
going to go on to continue doing great

3818
02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:29,680
work. So, thank you.

3819
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:31,760
Uh so we have a motion and a second. All

3820
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:35,520
those in favor of approving order 46.

3821
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:38,399
>> Uh that carries 90.

3822
02:36:38,399 --> 02:36:40,800
Thank you very much. Let's go to

3823
02:36:40,800 --> 02:36:42,640
communications applications and

3824
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:43,680
petitions please.

3825
02:36:43,680 --> 02:36:45,840
>> Order number 47 from National Grid

3826
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:48,560
petition 3123447

3827
02:36:48,560 --> 02:36:50,479
to install underground facilities on Bow

3828
02:36:50,479 --> 02:36:52,000
Street, Wall Street, Cabinet Street, and

3829
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:53,439
Abbott Street.

3830
02:36:53,439 --> 02:36:54,720
>> Please refer that to the committee on

3831
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,560
public services to set a public hearing.

3832
02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:58,479
Order number 48 from National Grid, a

3833
02:36:58,479 --> 02:37:00,880
petition 31247668

3834
02:37:00,880 --> 02:37:02,880
to install underground facilities on Cab

3835
02:37:02,880 --> 02:37:03,520
Street.

3836
02:37:03,520 --> 02:37:04,720
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3837
02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:06,240
Public Services to set that public

3838
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:07,120
hearing as well.

3839
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:10,000
>> Order number 49 from Gonet Speed, a

3840
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:11,600
petition to install and maintain

3841
02:37:11,600 --> 02:37:13,760
underground facilities on Ashton Street.

3842
02:37:13,760 --> 02:37:14,960
>> Please refer that to the Committee on

3843
02:37:14,960 --> 02:37:16,960
Public Services to set a public hearing.

3844
02:37:16,960 --> 02:37:18,880
>> Order number 50 from Go Net Speed, a

3845
02:37:18,880 --> 02:37:20,720
petition to install maintain underground

3846
02:37:20,720 --> 02:37:22,560
facilities on Friend Street. Please

3847
02:37:22,560 --> 02:37:23,920
refer that to the committee on public

3848
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:25,600
services for setting a public hearing as

3849
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:26,080
well.

3850
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:28,080
>> Order number 51 from go net speed, a

3851
02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:29,280
petition to install and maintain

3852
02:37:29,280 --> 02:37:31,280
underground facilities on East Street.

3853
02:37:31,280 --> 02:37:32,560
Please refer that to the committee on

3854
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:34,560
public services to set a public hearing.

3855
02:37:34,560 --> 02:37:36,240
>> Order number 52, a notice of

3856
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:40,000
availability of from 150 Sawyer Road.

3857
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:41,520
>> I would entertain a motion to receive

3858
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:44,000
this and place it on file.

3859
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:45,600
>> All those in favor?

3860
02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:47,479
>> That carries 90. And so we'll place

3861
02:37:47,479 --> 02:37:48,800
[clears throat] that report on file.

3862
02:37:48,800 --> 02:37:50,800
Thank you.

3863
02:37:50,800 --> 02:37:53,359
Uh I would entertain a motion to take a

3864
02:37:53,359 --> 02:37:55,680
break for some subcommittee work at this

3865
02:37:55,680 --> 02:37:57,040
point.

3866
02:37:57,040 --> 02:38:00,880
>> All those in favor? That carries 90. So

3867
02:38:00,880 --> 02:38:02,880
uh we will have our subcommittees meet.

3868
02:38:02,880 --> 02:38:04,960
Most of the subcommittees do have quite

3869
02:38:04,960 --> 02:38:08,160
uh lengthy agendas and so subcommittee

3870
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:10,560
chairs just a reminder if there are more

3871
02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:12,479
substantive matters before you that

3872
02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:14,560
can't easily be taken care of in this

3873
02:38:14,560 --> 02:38:16,640
briefer break. Um, you could schedule a

3874
02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:18,265
meeting of your subcommittee for

3875
02:38:18,265 --> 02:38:18,800
[snorts]

3876
02:38:18,800 --> 02:38:21,840
next week or for the fourth week. Second

3877
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:23,200
and fourth weeks are subcommittee weeks

3878
02:38:23,200 --> 02:38:25,120
if you need them. Um, we will have

3879
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:26,399
finance and property stay here in

3880
02:38:26,399 --> 02:38:28,240
council chambers, legal affairs in the

3881
02:38:28,240 --> 02:38:30,000
committee room, public services in the

3882
02:38:30,000 --> 02:39:49,990
hall. Thank you very much.

3883
02:39:50,000 --> 02:39:52,720
You can go whatever you want.

3884
02:39:52,720 --> 02:39:54,319
>> Okay. I'm just going to go in order on

3885
02:39:54,319 --> 02:39:56,960
here. Yeah. All right. Um I'd like to

3886
02:39:56,960 --> 02:39:59,840
call to order the Committee on Finance

3887
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:03,120
and Property and

3888
02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,960
um and it is What time is it? 9:39. All

3889
02:40:06,960 --> 02:40:09,200
right. So, we've got a number of things

3890
02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:10,800
we can vote on tonight. So, I'm going to

3891
02:40:10,800 --> 02:40:13,680
kind of go through these

3892
02:40:13,680 --> 02:40:15,280
as

3893
02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:17,600
expediently as we can. Did you put me in

3894
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:18,960
charge of this committee because I can

3895
02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:20,319
speak like the micro machines, ma'am?

3896
02:40:20,319 --> 02:40:22,240
>> Yeah. So, [laughter]

3897
02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:24,000
okay. So, we're going to start with um

3898
02:40:24,000 --> 02:40:26,399
order number 11. Um and this is an

3899
02:40:26,399 --> 02:40:28,640
appointment for Donna Metazaro, 47

3900
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:30,960
Elmrest Road, North Andover to serve as

3901
02:40:30,960 --> 02:40:33,600
the city accountant. She will be

3902
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:38,000
replacing um Carol Department, Carol.

3903
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:40,479
So, um do we have any discussion on

3904
02:40:40,479 --> 02:40:42,000
this? Do we have any questions from

3905
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:45,910
either of the committee members?

3906
02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:48,800
Oh yes. Thanks.

3907
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:50,240
>> Thank you, Madam Chair. Very quickly,

3908
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:52,240
I've had the privilege of meeting Ms.

3909
02:40:52,240 --> 02:40:54,960
Maz Materazzo. She comes from Saras. Uh

3910
02:40:54,960 --> 02:40:56,640
we've had several meetings actually

3911
02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:58,479
already. She's in the back here. Just if

3912
02:40:58,479 --> 02:41:00,399
you don't know who she is. Uh I can

3913
02:41:00,399 --> 02:41:02,560
share with you uh she is very well

3914
02:41:02,560 --> 02:41:04,479
verssed in municipal finance. I think

3915
02:41:04,479 --> 02:41:06,000
it's a great appointment and I would

3916
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:08,160
recommend you uh appoint her as your

3917
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:09,200
budget analyst.

3918
02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:12,399
>> Thank you, Mr. P. Has anyone else had

3919
02:41:12,399 --> 02:41:14,960
any questions?

3920
02:41:14,960 --> 02:41:15,439
All right.

3921
02:41:15,439 --> 02:41:17,439
>> I would make a motion to approve order

3922
02:41:17,439 --> 02:41:18,399
number 11.

3923
02:41:18,399 --> 02:41:20,880
>> All right. Second. Okay. All those in

3924
02:41:20,880 --> 02:41:21,840
favor?

3925
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:22,399
>> I.

3926
02:41:22,399 --> 02:41:25,920
>> All right. Motion passes. Three to zero.

3927
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:28,479
All right. Moving on. Order number 16.

3928
02:41:28,479 --> 02:41:32,640
And welcome. Welcome to Thank you. Um,

3929
02:41:32,640 --> 02:41:35,280
order number 16. This is a reappoint for

3930
02:41:35,280 --> 02:41:37,040
Brian Als to serve as the director of

3931
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:39,680
municipal finance here. So again, do we

3932
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:41,520
have any questions? Subcommittee members

3933
02:41:41,520 --> 02:41:42,080
have any questions?

3934
02:41:42,080 --> 02:41:44,479
>> Is Mr. else here this evening.

3935
02:41:44,479 --> 02:41:45,920
>> I don't know. I haven't heard from him

3936
02:41:45,920 --> 02:41:47,439
yet.

3937
02:41:47,439 --> 02:41:51,590
>> He's not around much. [laughter]

3938
02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:54,880
» Does he want to?

3939
02:41:54,880 --> 02:41:56,479
>> Madam Chair, I I've had a lot of

3940
02:41:56,479 --> 02:41:59,920
experience uh with Mr. Als kind of a

3941
02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:01,622
questionable appointment in my opinion.

3942
02:42:01,622 --> 02:42:02,399
[laughter]

3943
02:42:02,399 --> 02:42:05,359
Uh but no, it's my full fullthroated

3944
02:42:05,359 --> 02:42:07,359
endorsement as an excellent choice.

3945
02:42:07,359 --> 02:42:08,960
>> Great. All right.

3946
02:42:08,960 --> 02:42:11,040
>> So, I'd make a motion to approve order

3947
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:11,600
16.

3948
02:42:11,600 --> 02:42:12,240
>> All right. All right. Do I have a

3949
02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:12,560
second?

3950
02:42:12,560 --> 02:42:13,040
>> Second.

3951
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:14,319
>> Okay. All those in favor?

3952
02:42:14,319 --> 02:42:14,800
>> I.

3953
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:17,200
>> All right. Motion passes three to zero.

3954
02:42:17,200 --> 02:42:20,479
>> All right. In order number 17, um this

3955
02:42:20,479 --> 02:42:23,600
is to accept an $850,000

3956
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:25,760
grant from the Massachusetts Executive

3957
02:42:25,760 --> 02:42:27,439
Office of Housing and Livable

3958
02:42:27,439 --> 02:42:29,439
Communities to be used to support

3959
02:42:29,439 --> 02:42:31,520
housing rehabilitation projects in the

3960
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:33,840
city of Beverly for low to moderate

3961
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:37,200
income residents that qualify.

3962
02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:38,640
Do we have any questions or do we have

3963
02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:40,399
anyone from the city that wants to speak

3964
02:42:40,399 --> 02:42:47,030
on this? Miss uh Miss Win.

3965
02:42:47,040 --> 02:42:50,319
» Uh yes, Darlene W, planning director. Um

3966
02:42:50,319 --> 02:42:52,000
we actually well we've talked about this

3967
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:53,280
in a couple different things, but this

3968
02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:58,720
is um the CDBG grant is um a program

3969
02:42:58,720 --> 02:43:00,319
that the city participated in and

3970
02:43:00,319 --> 02:43:04,399
received for about um 20 years, but the

3971
02:43:04,399 --> 02:43:07,040
last time in 2006. Um we had tried a

3972
02:43:07,040 --> 02:43:08,319
couple of times to apply into the

3973
02:43:08,319 --> 02:43:10,160
program in the last decade. um

3974
02:43:10,160 --> 02:43:13,520
unsuccessfully. Um but we were um able

3975
02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:15,680
to secure a grant in the last round for

3976
02:43:15,680 --> 02:43:17,920
a number of reasons, both thanks to all

3977
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:22,240
of our teamwork. Um uh and um because

3978
02:43:22,240 --> 02:43:24,399
our our socioeconomic conditions have

3979
02:43:24,399 --> 02:43:26,880
changed just enough to allow us to

3980
02:43:26,880 --> 02:43:31,120
qualify. Um and so we will um be using

3981
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:33,120
this money to establish or reestablish a

3982
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:37,680
housing rehabilitation program um in the

3983
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:39,600
next 18 months. and we will be

3984
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:41,840
contracting with Habitat for Humanity to

3985
02:43:41,840 --> 02:43:45,439
uh run that program for us with us.

3986
02:43:45,439 --> 02:43:47,359
>> Great.

3987
02:43:47,359 --> 02:43:48,880
Any questions?

3988
02:43:48,880 --> 02:43:50,800
>> My only comment is this is terrific.

3989
02:43:50,800 --> 02:43:52,399
>> Yeah, I agree.

3990
02:43:52,399 --> 02:43:54,000
>> Thank you for your work on this and this

3991
02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:55,520
is good for the city.

3992
02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:57,279
>> I make a motion to approve order number

3993
02:43:57,279 --> 02:43:57,840
17.

3994
02:43:57,840 --> 02:43:59,600
>> All right. Second. All right. All those

3995
02:43:59,600 --> 02:44:00,399
in favor?

3996
02:44:00,399 --> 02:44:01,439
>> I.

3997
02:44:01,439 --> 02:44:04,240
>> Motion passes three to zero.

3998
02:44:04,240 --> 02:44:06,720
Okay. Now we have um order number nine

3999
02:44:06,720 --> 02:44:09,279
which is the public hearing one of the

4000
02:44:09,279 --> 02:44:11,040
public hearings that we had tonight. Um

4001
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:13,359
the community community preservation

4002
02:44:13,359 --> 02:44:15,439
committee out of cycle CPA funding

4003
02:44:15,439 --> 02:44:18,240
recommendations request for CPA CPA

4004
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:19,760
funding for independence park

4005
02:44:19,760 --> 02:44:21,520
renovations.

4006
02:44:21,520 --> 02:44:23,680
Um, I know we didn't have any public

4007
02:44:23,680 --> 02:44:25,920
speakers or any questions on that on the

4008
02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:27,920
floor, but are there any further

4009
02:44:27,920 --> 02:44:30,000
discussions or questions that

4010
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:31,840
>> I I I would just comment that I think

4011
02:44:31,840 --> 02:44:36,240
that uh out of cycle um applications are

4012
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:41,680
uh uh appropriate in both this case and in general to provide flexibility

4013
02:44:41,680 --> 02:44:45,439
for the CPC to to you know conduct its

4014
02:44:45,439 --> 02:44:47,120
mission. So

4015
02:44:47,120 --> 02:44:49,439
>> I would agree.

4016
02:44:49,439 --> 02:44:51,120
This is just a brief comment just to say

4017
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:52,560
that I think one of the reasons that

4018
02:44:52,560 --> 02:44:54,800
there were a few questions I I always

4019
02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:58,319
appreciate I think our our CPC

4020
02:44:58,319 --> 02:45:00,319
group comes very prepared. Mr. Beckwith

4021
02:45:00,319 --> 02:45:03,040
I know is still with us um I feel like

4022
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:04,399
addresses a lot of the questions up

4023
02:45:04,399 --> 02:45:05,920
front and so Mr. Beckwith I just want to

4024
02:45:05,920 --> 02:45:08,720
say thank you to you and the committee

4025
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:10,640
um for the thorough the thorough vetting

4026
02:45:10,640 --> 02:45:12,399
that you do of the grant applications

4027
02:45:12,399 --> 02:45:13,680
that come to you and then the way that

4028
02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:16,080
you help to um bring the information to

4029
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:17,840
the council. I I find it very helpful. I

4030
02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:21,200
think that comes through too in in a an

4031
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:22,560
opportunity like this where there were

4032
02:45:22,560 --> 02:45:24,399
not a lot of questions. I think in part

4033
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:26,319
because the materials that we received

4034
02:45:26,319 --> 02:45:28,160
were were very thoroughly prepared. So

4035
02:45:28,160 --> 02:45:31,040
thank you.

4036
02:45:31,040 --> 02:45:33,520
>> Agreed. Very much appreciated.

4037
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:35,200
>> I would make a motion to approve over

4038
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:35,840
number nine.

4039
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:36,800
>> All right. Second.

4040
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:37,920
>> All right. All those in favor?

4041
02:45:37,920 --> 02:45:40,399
>> I. All right. Motion passes 300. All

4042
02:45:40,399 --> 02:45:43,760
right. Number 10.

4043
02:45:43,760 --> 02:45:46,720
I will take 10 and 10. So, the next two

4044
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:48,319
are going to be about the the other two

4045
02:45:48,319 --> 02:45:50,800
public hearings that we had today. And

4046
02:45:50,800 --> 02:45:52,800
because this is these are both going to

4047
02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:54,560
be going back out to the full committee.

4048
02:45:54,560 --> 02:45:57,200
And I think it's appropriate to have any

4049
02:45:57,200 --> 02:45:58,560
more discussion that we have there with

4050
02:45:58,560 --> 02:46:03,680
the full council. Um I'm going to um

4051
02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:07,279
entertain a motion to refer the orders

4052
02:46:07,279 --> 02:46:09,200
unless there's additional questions that

4053
02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:11,200
you wanted to ask in subcommittee.

4054
02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:13,279
>> Both you and I have already commented on

4055
02:46:13,279 --> 02:46:15,439
it. Um, so unless council president

4056
02:46:15,439 --> 02:46:16,720
wants to weigh.

4057
02:46:16,720 --> 02:46:18,640
>> Yes, we actually if you'd like an

4058
02:46:18,640 --> 02:46:19,920
opportunity to

4059
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:20,560
>> Thank you.

4060
02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:22,640
>> this committee to make any comments.

4061
02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:25,200
>> Thank you. Um, thank you. I appreciate

4062
02:46:25,200 --> 02:46:27,040
that. I I will be very brief. Um,

4063
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:28,720
because I think we did have really good

4064
02:46:28,720 --> 02:46:30,080
conversation about it and we will, as

4065
02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:31,359
you pointed out, have the chance for

4066
02:46:31,359 --> 02:46:33,439
more. But I do appreciate the

4067
02:46:33,439 --> 02:46:36,080
opportunity to just share a little tiny

4068
02:46:36,080 --> 02:46:38,479
perspective because of course in the

4069
02:46:38,479 --> 02:46:40,399
full council it's not as easy for the

4070
02:46:40,399 --> 02:46:43,359
president to do so. Um I I too really

4071
02:46:43,359 --> 02:46:45,680
appreciated both the presentation. I

4072
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:48,399
also appreciated the points that the two

4073
02:46:48,399 --> 02:46:50,880
of you helped to draw out. I think it is

4074
02:46:50,880 --> 02:46:54,240
I I think it is hard um to look from the

4075
02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:56,080
outside in and sometimes to make sense

4076
02:46:56,080 --> 02:46:59,120
of for folks how it can be that we can

4077
02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:00,960
be talking about a challenge to our

4078
02:47:00,960 --> 02:47:04,160
operating budget and the need for a

4079
02:47:04,160 --> 02:47:05,520
project that looks like we're going to

4080
02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:08,880
be we we are deciding to take on debt.

4081
02:47:08,880 --> 02:47:11,279
Um and I thought the comments that you

4082
02:47:11,279 --> 02:47:12,720
both offered along with other counselors

4083
02:47:12,720 --> 02:47:15,520
in the presentation helped to to make

4084
02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:18,319
clearer the point that as you said

4085
02:47:18,319 --> 02:47:20,640
counselor um two things can be true at

4086
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:22,000
once. We can understand that we have a

4087
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:23,760
challenge in our operating budget. We

4088
02:47:23,760 --> 02:47:25,680
can also understand this is a needed

4089
02:47:25,680 --> 02:47:27,200
project and the importance of

4090
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:29,439
maintaining our our debt service as

4091
02:47:29,439 --> 02:47:32,720
well. So um I'm I am in favor of the

4092
02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:34,800
project. I appreciate the team's

4093
02:47:34,800 --> 02:47:37,359
presentation tonight. I do feel that was

4094
02:47:37,359 --> 02:47:39,600
really helpful not only for the council

4095
02:47:39,600 --> 02:47:41,359
but for anybody following along as well

4096
02:47:41,359 --> 02:47:43,600
just to be able to understand

4097
02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:45,120
better what the scope of the project is

4098
02:47:45,120 --> 02:47:47,040
and and how we intend to get there. So

4099
02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:47,920
thank you.

4100
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:52,319
>> Great. I agree. So do I have a motion?

4101
02:47:52,319 --> 02:47:54,160
>> Um I would make a Yeah. So I'd make a

4102
02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:54,960
motion. I think we

4103
02:47:54,960 --> 02:47:56,960
>> we could just take 10 and then 10. Yeah.

4104
02:47:56,960 --> 02:48:01,120
>> Yeah. make a motion to um approve for

4105
02:48:01,120 --> 02:48:03,600
discussion by the full council's orders

4106
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:05,359
uh 10 and 10.

4107
02:48:05,359 --> 02:48:06,640
>> All right. Do I have a second?

4108
02:48:06,640 --> 02:48:07,200
>> Second and second.

4109
02:48:07,200 --> 02:48:08,800
Okay. All those in

4110
02:48:08,800 --> 02:48:12,399
favor in favor. One [laughter] I

4111
02:48:12,399 --> 02:48:15,439
>> All right. Good teamwork.

4112
02:48:15,439 --> 02:48:19,200
>> Um okay. Now we're moving on to

4113
02:48:19,200 --> 02:48:23,359
Okay. Got a bunch of donations and

4114
02:48:23,359 --> 02:48:26,000
grants which is great. So, I'm going to

4115
02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:29,680
take these in order. 18 is order number

4116
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:32,319
18 is a donation for $3,000 from the

4117
02:48:32,319 --> 02:48:34,640
Beverly Female Charitable Society to

4118
02:48:34,640 --> 02:48:37,359
support the Council on Aging.

4119
02:48:37,359 --> 02:48:39,680
>> Do I have any discussion? I

4120
02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:41,600
>> I didn't know there was a Beverly Female

4121
02:48:41,600 --> 02:48:43,200
Charitable Society, but I'm glad there

4122
02:48:43,200 --> 02:48:45,359
is. And um my mother-in-law I think it's

4123
02:48:45,359 --> 02:48:47,520
a terrific donation. I've uh unless

4124
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:49,359
there's discussion,

4125
02:48:49,359 --> 02:48:52,080
>> make a motion to approve order 18.

4126
02:48:52,080 --> 02:48:54,319
>> I will second that motion. uh with

4127
02:48:54,319 --> 02:48:57,040
appreciation for the society. I did

4128
02:48:57,040 --> 02:48:59,120
happen to know about it and they they do

4129
02:48:59,120 --> 02:49:01,120
a lot of really amazing generous work.

4130
02:49:01,120 --> 02:49:03,040
So we are fortunate to have them at work

4131
02:49:03,040 --> 02:49:04,880
in our community and fortunate to have

4132
02:49:04,880 --> 02:49:06,640
this donation and my mother-in-law is on

4133
02:49:06,640 --> 02:49:09,040
it. [laughter]

4134
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:10,880
>> Okay. [snorts] Order number 19, a

4135
02:49:10,880 --> 02:49:13,680
donation for $10,000 from an anonymous

4136
02:49:13,680 --> 02:49:16,080
donation for the Council on Aging.

4137
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:17,760
>> I would make a motion to approve order

4138
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:18,479
19.

4139
02:49:18,479 --> 02:49:20,399
>> Second. All those in favor?

4140
02:49:20,399 --> 02:49:24,160
>> I motion pass 30. Order number 20, a

4141
02:49:24,160 --> 02:49:27,120
grant for $163,000

4142
02:49:27,120 --> 02:49:31,349
or $163,964

4143
02:49:31,359 --> 02:49:36,640
for 911 EO PSS OGR support and incentive

4144
02:49:36,640 --> 02:49:38,560
grant.

4145
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:39,920
>> Do I have any questions?

4146
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:41,760
>> Um, no. I think it's great. I don't know

4147
02:49:41,760 --> 02:49:44,399
if if the mayor or anyone wants to

4148
02:49:44,399 --> 02:49:47,520
comment on this, but um

4149
02:49:47,520 --> 02:49:49,040
you know, we've been moving towards

4150
02:49:49,040 --> 02:49:51,520
dispatch services for a while and

4151
02:49:51,520 --> 02:49:54,319
>> if or Miss Barrett, that would be

4152
02:49:54,319 --> 02:49:56,080
>> Thank you. Katherine Barrett, director

4153
02:49:56,080 --> 02:49:58,160
of grants. These are the two annual 911

4154
02:49:58,160 --> 02:49:58,720
grants.

4155
02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:00,479
>> I'd just like to call to order the

4156
02:50:00,479 --> 02:50:04,160
committee on the whole at uh 9:49. Thank

4157
02:50:04,160 --> 02:50:06,240
you. Sorry about that.

4158
02:50:06,240 --> 02:50:08,160
>> Yeah, these are the two annual 911

4159
02:50:08,160 --> 02:50:09,359
grants that the Beverly Police

4160
02:50:09,359 --> 02:50:10,960
Department receives. One of them is the

4161
02:50:10,960 --> 02:50:13,680
support and incentive grant uh which is

4162
02:50:13,680 --> 02:50:16,720
for um our enhanced 911 services and the

4163
02:50:16,720 --> 02:50:18,319
other one is the training grant which

4164
02:50:18,319 --> 02:50:23,429
provides funds to train uh officers.

4165
02:50:23,439 --> 02:50:25,760
» What?

4166
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:28,640
>> EOPS executive office for public safety

4167
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:31,840
and service.

4168
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:34,800
>> She knows her stuff. [laughter]

4169
02:50:34,800 --> 02:50:38,080
>> All right. Um that's great. Um and I do

4170
02:50:38,080 --> 02:50:39,840
remember these coming up. I'd make a a

4171
02:50:39,840 --> 02:50:41,439
motion to approve order number 20.

4172
02:50:41,439 --> 02:50:42,399
>> All right. Do I have a second?

4173
02:50:42,399 --> 02:50:44,080
>> Second. All right. All those in favor?

4174
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:44,800
>> I.

4175
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:46,640
>> Motion passes. Three to zero. All right.

4176
02:50:46,640 --> 02:50:50,160
And 21 is similar. It's grant for

4177
02:50:50,160 --> 02:50:53,190
$69,6328

4178
02:50:53,200 --> 02:50:57,840
for the 911 EOP EOPS OGR 911 training

4179
02:50:57,840 --> 02:50:58,880
grant.

4180
02:50:58,880 --> 02:51:00,240
>> Likewise, I would make a motion to

4181
02:51:00,240 --> 02:51:01,760
approve order number 21.

4182
02:51:01,760 --> 02:51:03,600
>> Second. All those in favor?

4183
02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:04,000
>> I.

4184
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:06,080
>> All right. Motion passes 30. That's on

4185
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:09,200
order number 21. Order number 22 grant

4186
02:51:09,200 --> 02:51:15,040
for a mass D technical assistant grant

4187
02:51:15,040 --> 02:51:18,469
the amount.

4188
02:51:18,479 --> 02:51:21,920
» All right. Hello again. Um, so this

4189
02:51:21,920 --> 02:51:24,000
grant actually is a requirement for the

4190
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:27,600
city to be eligible for the SMRP PAWYT

4191
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:30,479
grant, which will um hopefully allow

4192
02:51:30,479 --> 02:51:33,359
funds for us when we switch to automated

4193
02:51:33,359 --> 02:51:35,840
refu and recycling and potentially

4194
02:51:35,840 --> 02:51:38,479
composting pickup to receive between 10

4195
02:51:38,479 --> 02:51:40,880
or $30 towards the purchase of those

4196
02:51:40,880 --> 02:51:45,040
receptacles up to $300,000. So that will

4197
02:51:45,040 --> 02:51:47,520
be uh an important grant uh that we'll

4198
02:51:47,520 --> 02:51:49,520
be eligible to apply for after doing the

4199
02:51:49,520 --> 02:51:51,120
technical assistance.

4200
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:53,279
>> Okay. So is there a financial amount

4201
02:51:53,279 --> 02:51:55,040
associated with this or this is just

4202
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:56,640
>> not with this grant? No.

4203
02:51:56,640 --> 02:51:58,000
>> The next one? Yes.

4204
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:00,160
>> Got it. Okay.

4205
02:52:00,160 --> 02:52:02,399
>> Do anyone have any questions?

4206
02:52:02,399 --> 02:52:05,120
>> Um no. Although I think it's it's it's

4207
02:52:05,120 --> 02:52:06,479
terrific that we're moving in this

4208
02:52:06,479 --> 02:52:08,399
direction. So I would make an motion to

4209
02:52:08,399 --> 02:52:09,840
approve order number 22.

4210
02:52:09,840 --> 02:52:11,680
>> I second. All right. All those in favor?

4211
02:52:11,680 --> 02:52:14,240
I

4212
02:52:14,240 --> 02:52:17,680
>> All right. Order number 23, a $2,500

4213
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:19,600
Mass Executive Office of Labor and

4214
02:52:19,600 --> 02:52:22,640
Workforce Development Workplace Safety

4215
02:52:22,640 --> 02:52:25,520
and Education Grant.

4216
02:52:25,520 --> 02:52:27,840
Any questions? Is there you have

4217
02:52:27,840 --> 02:52:29,840
anything to say? If it's if it's

4218
02:52:29,840 --> 02:52:30,800
standard, it's okay.

4219
02:52:30,800 --> 02:52:32,960
>> Straight forward. Y um thanks to our

4220
02:52:32,960 --> 02:52:35,359
health department director, Laura

4221
02:52:35,359 --> 02:52:38,399
Reichi, her new um married name, uh for

4222
02:52:38,399 --> 02:52:39,760
applying for this grant. And there's no

4223
02:52:39,760 --> 02:52:41,600
match funding required either.

4224
02:52:41,600 --> 02:52:43,359
>> Great. All right.

4225
02:52:43,359 --> 02:52:44,800
>> I would make a motion to approve order

4226
02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:45,600
number 23.

4227
02:52:45,600 --> 02:52:46,000
>> Second.

4228
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:47,600
>> All right. All those in favor?

4229
02:52:47,600 --> 02:52:49,040
>> I.

4230
02:52:49,040 --> 02:52:50,800
>> We're getting there, guys. Almost there.

4231
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:54,399
All right. Order number 24, a grass tech

4232
02:52:54,399 --> 02:52:56,720
collaborative mass broadband institute

4233
02:52:56,720 --> 02:53:01,429
connected and online grant.

4234
02:53:01,439 --> 02:53:03,040
Thanks. I just wanted to say a few words

4235
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:06,000
about this grant. Um this grant is

4236
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:07,760
through again Massastec collaborative

4237
02:53:07,760 --> 02:53:10,479
Mass Broadbian Institute and devices are

4238
02:53:10,479 --> 02:53:12,720
being provided to towns and cities

4239
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:15,359
across the Commonwealth at no cost. And

4240
02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:17,840
so you can see there's 220 devices that

4241
02:53:17,840 --> 02:53:20,080
the city will be receiving and we're

4242
02:53:20,080 --> 02:53:21,680
distributing to the partners that are

4243
02:53:21,680 --> 02:53:24,080
highlighted in the letter. Um and the

4244
02:53:24,080 --> 02:53:26,319
software is preloaded. So it really is

4245
02:53:26,319 --> 02:53:28,240
no cost to the city um for those

4246
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:29,359
devices.

4247
02:53:29,359 --> 02:53:31,120
>> That's great.

4248
02:53:31,120 --> 02:53:32,960
>> Yeah. So I have a question about this.

4249
02:53:32,960 --> 02:53:35,520
Um, first of all, I think it's terrific.

4250
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:38,399
Um, and and very interesting. My

4251
02:53:38,399 --> 02:53:40,720
question has to do with uh, so the

4252
02:53:40,720 --> 02:53:43,200
letter says it'll be uh, deployed to

4253
02:53:43,200 --> 02:53:46,720
depart city departments. Um, are these

4254
02:53:46,720 --> 02:53:50,640
basically a lending library of of these

4255
02:53:50,640 --> 02:53:52,640
devices that get distributed to the

4256
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:55,120
departments? So each department, if I'm

4257
02:53:55,120 --> 02:53:57,520
if that's correct, would be responsible

4258
02:53:57,520 --> 02:53:59,760
sort of keeping track of these and

4259
02:53:59,760 --> 02:54:02,080
having their own

4260
02:54:02,080 --> 02:54:06,720
lending system to help uh you know help keep track of them, I guess.

4261
02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:09,120
>> Yes. Um, so some of the departments,

4262
02:54:09,120 --> 02:54:10,560
there's two departments that will be

4263
02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:12,160
receiving them, the Council on Aging and

4264
02:54:12,160 --> 02:54:14,640
the Beverly Public Library. Some devices

4265
02:54:14,640 --> 02:54:16,720
will be lent out and there is a tracking

4266
02:54:16,720 --> 02:54:19,279
process for that and we actually have to

4267
02:54:19,279 --> 02:54:22,240
uh report quarterly for a period of five

4268
02:54:22,240 --> 02:54:24,479
years on this grant because it's federal

4269
02:54:24,479 --> 02:54:27,439
trickle down funds. So we have to keep

4270
02:54:27,439 --> 02:54:29,279
track of those devices for a five-year

4271
02:54:29,279 --> 02:54:32,720
period. Um, some of them will be loaners

4272
02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:35,120
and then some will be uh like used in

4273
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:37,200
house at the library.

4274
02:54:37,200 --> 02:54:39,760
Okay. Uh, Monzerat through you, Madam

4275
02:54:39,760 --> 02:54:42,800
Chair. Um, uh, Monzerat College, Beverly

4276
02:54:42,800 --> 02:54:45,359
Children's Learning Center webcam.

4277
02:54:45,359 --> 02:54:49,200
>> Um, they I guess the letter indicates

4278
02:54:49,200 --> 02:54:51,359
that they will also get some of these

4279
02:54:51,359 --> 02:54:53,359
for and then they will use them

4280
02:54:53,359 --> 02:54:56,319
themselves or they will lend them out.

4281
02:54:56,319 --> 02:54:58,560
>> They will lend them out. Um some of them

4282
02:54:58,560 --> 02:55:00,800
will be used on location, some will be

4283
02:55:00,800 --> 02:55:03,359
lent out and again they are responsible

4284
02:55:03,359 --> 02:55:05,600
for keeping track of those devices for

4285
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:07,040
the quarterly reporting

4286
02:55:07,040 --> 02:55:08,720
>> and and that basically they kind of

4287
02:55:08,720 --> 02:55:10,319
report back to you then as the

4288
02:55:10,319 --> 02:55:12,000
>> they do. Yes. Quarterly we're

4289
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:14,720
responsible for doing reporting back to

4290
02:55:14,720 --> 02:55:16,560
the funer uh each quarter.

4291
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:20,479
>> Okay. Thank you. I have more questions.

4292
02:55:20,479 --> 02:55:21,920
>> I would make a motion to approve order

4293
02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:22,720
number 24.

4294
02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:24,560
>> All right. Second. All right. All those

4295
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:25,600
in favor? I

4296
02:55:25,600 --> 02:55:28,319
>> I motion passes 30.

4297
02:55:28,319 --> 02:55:30,960
All right. Order number 25, a grant for

4298
02:55:30,960 --> 02:55:32,640
$15,000

4299
02:55:32,640 --> 02:55:36,080
Mass Cultural Coun Mass Cultural Council

4300
02:55:36,080 --> 02:55:39,200
Cultural District Investment Grant.

4301
02:55:39,200 --> 02:55:40,240
>> See,

4302
02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:43,200
>> I know this is a lot of credit. It's a

4303
02:55:43,200 --> 02:55:46,000
lot of words in a row. Um

4304
02:55:46,000 --> 02:55:47,760
>> yeah.

4305
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:50,560
Um this is has become an annual grant

4306
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:51,920
that we've received from the Mass

4307
02:55:51,920 --> 02:55:54,319
Cultural Council to support uh

4308
02:55:54,319 --> 02:55:56,640
initiatives in the cultural district um

4309
02:55:56,640 --> 02:56:01,279
which is on Cabbat Street. Um and

4310
02:56:01,279 --> 02:56:03,359
this year we're planning on using it for

4311
02:56:03,359 --> 02:56:05,520
support to kind of get off the ground

4312
02:56:05,520 --> 02:56:08,080
the Bower that Monzerat um and Beverly

4313
02:56:08,080 --> 02:56:10,080
Main Streets and the Cabat have recently

4314
02:56:10,080 --> 02:56:13,520
established at 248 Cabbat Street. Um and

4315
02:56:13,520 --> 02:56:15,359
Monstrat and Beverly Main Streets and

4316
02:56:15,359 --> 02:56:17,279
the city of Beverly are the three key

4317
02:56:17,279 --> 02:56:19,680
main partners of the cultural district.

4318
02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:23,920
Um and so um we're going to help kind of

4319
02:56:23,920 --> 02:56:25,600
get some events and programming and kind

4320
02:56:25,600 --> 02:56:28,080
of upkeep and locks and security in

4321
02:56:28,080 --> 02:56:29,840
place there so that can be used now as

4322
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:32,319
the hub of our cultural district.

4323
02:56:32,319 --> 02:56:33,840
>> Great.

4324
02:56:33,840 --> 02:56:36,080
>> Uh I think this is terrific. I'd make a

4325
02:56:36,080 --> 02:56:37,760
motion to approve order number 25.

4326
02:56:37,760 --> 02:56:40,000
>> Second. Great. All those in favor? I.

4327
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:42,880
>> All right. Motion passes 30. Order

4328
02:56:42,880 --> 02:56:45,359
number 26, a donation, a $100 donation

4329
02:56:45,359 --> 02:56:48,640
from David Men Mandanka

4330
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:51,359
to be used to purchase Shaw's gift cards

4331
02:56:51,359 --> 02:56:53,520
for veterans. That's nice.

4332
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:55,040
>> I would make a motion approve order

4333
02:56:55,040 --> 02:56:56,000
number 26.

4334
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:58,000
>> Second. All right. All those in favor?

4335
02:56:58,000 --> 02:56:59,040
>> I.

4336
02:56:59,040 --> 02:57:01,680
>> Motion passes 30. Order number 27, a

4337
02:57:01,680 --> 02:57:04,319
grant for 550,000

4338
02:57:04,319 --> 02:57:08,080
Seport Economic Council grant for

4339
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:11,760
commercial hoist pure reconstruction.

4340
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:14,240
Thank you. So, this is the second grant

4341
02:57:14,240 --> 02:57:16,720
we've received in the last um three

4342
02:57:16,720 --> 02:57:18,560
years for the commercial hoist pier. The

4343
02:57:18,560 --> 02:57:22,000
first one was for $656,000

4344
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:24,560
and um the cost of that project has gone

4345
02:57:24,560 --> 02:57:26,160
up over the last three years. So, we

4346
02:57:26,160 --> 02:57:28,479
have a second grant to supplement. This

4347
02:57:28,479 --> 02:57:31,040
grant actually has two matches. The

4348
02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:33,200
first half 68,750

4349
02:57:33,200 --> 02:57:34,800
is coming from the harbor management

4350
02:57:34,800 --> 02:57:38,720
authority fund and the other 68,750 is

4351
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:40,880
from the waterways improvement fund. So

4352
02:57:40,880 --> 02:57:42,800
this um does necessitate a public

4353
02:57:42,800 --> 02:57:44,800
hearing.

4354
02:57:44,800 --> 02:57:46,160
>> So you won't be able to vote on that

4355
02:57:46,160 --> 02:57:46,640
tonight?

4356
02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:49,680
>> Got it. So

4357
02:57:49,680 --> 02:57:51,520
we

4358
02:57:51,520 --> 02:57:54,960
do we have a public hearing that we were

4359
02:57:54,960 --> 02:57:56,319
considering timing wise.

4360
02:57:56,319 --> 02:57:58,399
>> Could I ask Miss Barrett a question? Um,

4361
02:57:58,399 --> 02:58:00,000
Miss Barrett, could I just ask you? I'm

4362
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:01,040
just looking at the other public

4363
02:58:01,040 --> 02:58:02,319
hearings that I anticipate public

4364
02:58:02,319 --> 02:58:03,760
services was setting for the 2nd of

4365
02:58:03,760 --> 02:58:06,160
February, and there's quite a few. Is

4366
02:58:06,160 --> 02:58:08,720
there a a an urgency attached to this?

4367
02:58:08,720 --> 02:58:10,080
>> There is. Yeah, the project's supposed

4368
02:58:10,080 --> 02:58:11,840
to start February 2nd. So, there

4369
02:58:11,840 --> 02:58:14,240
definitely is. It's time sensitive.

4370
02:58:14,240 --> 02:58:15,920
>> So, may I ask a followup?

4371
02:58:15,920 --> 02:58:16,319
>> Yes.

4372
02:58:16,319 --> 02:58:18,000
>> The next regular meeting of the council

4373
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:20,160
is February 2nd. What? That sounds like

4374
02:58:20,160 --> 02:58:20,800
that would be

4375
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:21,920
>> dubtales perfectly.

4376
02:58:21,920 --> 02:58:24,800
>> That would work. Okay. Um, Madam Chair,

4377
02:58:24,800 --> 02:58:26,720
could I make a suggestion then that we

4378
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:29,600
set that public hearing for February 2nd

4379
02:58:29,600 --> 02:58:31,680
at 8

4380
02:58:31,680 --> 02:58:36,080
>> 45? 8:45. Okay. I

4381
02:58:36,080 --> 02:58:39,200
would entertain a motion to set this

4382
02:58:39,200 --> 02:58:41,520
public hearing for 8:45 on February 2nd.

4383
02:58:41,520 --> 02:58:42,080
>> So moved.

4384
02:58:42,080 --> 02:58:43,760
>> Second. All those in favor?

4385
02:58:43,760 --> 02:58:45,920
>> I.

4386
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:48,880
Great. All right.

4387
02:58:48,880 --> 02:58:52,000
We have one more and then a note. Order

4388
02:58:52,000 --> 02:58:55,680
number 32, a donation of $50, a donation

4389
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:58,640
from John Lindel in memory of Daniel

4390
02:58:58,640 --> 02:59:00,640
Beecher, the owner of Northshore Carpet

4391
02:59:00,640 --> 02:59:01,920
to support the Beverly Police

4392
02:59:01,920 --> 02:59:03,359
Department.

4393
02:59:03,359 --> 02:59:06,080
>> Um, I I would like to thank Mr. Lindol

4394
02:59:06,080 --> 02:59:08,640
for this donation and make a motion to

4395
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:10,240
approve order 32.

4396
02:59:10,240 --> 02:59:10,800
>> Second.

4397
02:59:10,800 --> 02:59:12,240
>> All right. All those in favor?

4398
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:15,840
>> I motion passes three to zero. And there

4399
02:59:15,840 --> 02:59:19,040
was one other item that

4400
02:59:19,040 --> 02:59:20,880
on the record was sent to this

4401
02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:22,000
committee, but

4402
02:59:22,000 --> 02:59:23,200
>> order 43.

4403
02:59:23,200 --> 02:59:26,399
>> Yes. I would entertain a motion to send

4404
02:59:26,399 --> 02:59:30,160
this order number 43 to create this

4405
02:59:30,160 --> 02:59:32,240
temporary special committee to explore

4406
02:59:32,240 --> 02:59:35,279
options for addressing the looming 2027

4407
02:59:35,279 --> 02:59:37,680
forecasted budget deficit. I got to say

4408
02:59:37,680 --> 02:59:42,080
it again. Um to legal affairs.

4409
02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:44,960
>> Uh I would make a motion. I I make a

4410
02:59:44,960 --> 02:59:48,479
motion to uh send order number 43 uh

4411
02:59:48,479 --> 02:59:50,080
through

4412
02:59:50,080 --> 02:59:54,160
uh to legal affairs and if necessary by

4413
02:59:54,160 --> 02:59:57,200
way of full counsel or if not then

4414
02:59:57,200 --> 02:59:57,840
directly.

4415
02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:01,120
>> I think it can go directly if we vote it that way. So I would second I

4416
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:02,399
would second that.

4417
03:00:02,399 --> 03:00:03,279
>> All right.

4418
03:00:03,279 --> 03:00:04,720
>> So to legal affairs.

4419
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:05,200
>> Okay.

4420
03:00:05,200 --> 03:00:09,589
>> My motion. All those in favor to legal.

4421
03:00:09,589 --> 03:00:12,800
[laughter] Yes.

4422
03:00:12,800 --> 03:00:15,680
Motion passes three.

4423
03:00:15,680 --> 03:00:17,760
All right. That is all we had on our

4424
03:00:17,760 --> 03:00:19,840
agenda for tonight. So I would entertain

4425
03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:23,279
a motion to conclude um to committee of

4426
03:00:23,279 --> 03:00:27,040
the whole first um to

4427
03:00:27,040 --> 03:00:30,080
recess the committee of the whole.

4428
03:00:30,080 --> 03:00:33,269
>> So moved.

4429
03:00:33,279 --> 03:00:35,439
» Do I have a second?

4430
03:00:35,439 --> 03:00:36,560
I second.

4431
03:00:36,560 --> 03:00:38,640
>> All right. All those in favor?

4432
03:00:38,640 --> 03:00:39,120
>> I.

4433
03:00:39,120 --> 03:00:41,680
>> And then I would entertain a motion to

4434
03:00:41,680 --> 03:00:43,920
recess the uh committee on finance and

4435
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:44,399
property.

4436
03:00:44,399 --> 03:00:44,880
>> So moved.

4437
03:00:44,880 --> 03:00:45,760
>> Oh, you can adjourn.

4438
03:00:45,760 --> 03:00:47,520
>> Ajourn. Sorry. Ajourn. Yes.

4439
03:00:47,520 --> 03:00:48,160
>> Second.

4440
03:00:48,160 --> 03:00:49,760
>> All [snorts] those in favor?

4441
03:00:49,760 --> 03:00:51,200
>> Motion passes 300.

4442
03:00:51,200 --> 03:00:52,160
>> Couldn't think of the

4443
03:00:52,160 --> 03:00:53,040
>> All right. Thank you.

4444
03:00:53,040 --> 03:02:13,750
>> Thank you.

4445
03:02:13,760 --> 03:02:15,279
very much everyone. We'll call

4446
03:02:15,279 --> 03:02:17,520
the full council back to order. Uh thank

4447
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:19,439
you to our subcommittees and thank you

4448
03:02:19,439 --> 03:02:21,520
to our subcommittee chairs. Of course,

4449
03:02:21,520 --> 03:02:23,439
we are in our new term and so our

4450
03:02:23,439 --> 03:02:26,240
subcommittees are uh all new newly

4451
03:02:26,240 --> 03:02:28,000
reappointed and our subcommittee chairs

4452
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:29,600
are also newly reappointed. So thank you

4453
03:02:29,600 --> 03:02:31,600
to everyone for your work. And Miss

4454
03:02:31,600 --> 03:02:33,279
Kent, let's go to reports from

4455
03:02:33,279 --> 03:02:35,279
committees. Order number nine, the

4456
03:02:35,279 --> 03:02:36,560
committee on finance and property to

4457
03:02:36,560 --> 03:02:37,840
whom refer the matter regarding a

4458
03:02:37,840 --> 03:02:39,680
community preservation committee out of

4459
03:02:39,680 --> 03:02:42,560
cycle CPA funding recommendation have

4460
03:02:42,560 --> 03:02:44,080
considered said matter and beg the to

4461
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:45,439
follow. Recommend the council approve

4462
03:02:45,439 --> 03:02:48,469
this request.

4463
03:02:48,479 --> 03:02:51,920
Yes, thank you. Uh, councelor Retundo is

4464
03:02:51,920 --> 03:02:53,680
going to recuse himself from this one

4465
03:02:53,680 --> 03:02:56,080
because of his work with the Beverly 400

4466
03:02:56,080 --> 03:03:00,080
plus committee. Um, so are there

4467
03:03:00,080 --> 03:03:04,560
questions or comments on this one?

4468
03:03:04,560 --> 03:03:06,160
Question comes on the acceptance of the

4469
03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:08,080
proposal and adoption of the order. All

4470
03:03:08,080 --> 03:03:10,399
those in favor I.

4471
03:03:10,399 --> 03:03:13,200
>> That carries 80 and that is approved.

4472
03:03:13,200 --> 03:03:15,680
Thank you very much, counselor.

4473
03:03:15,680 --> 03:03:17,279
Order number 10, the committee on

4474
03:03:17,279 --> 03:03:19,359
finance and property to whom referred,

4475
03:03:19,359 --> 03:03:20,319
excuse [clears throat] me, would refer

4476
03:03:20,319 --> 03:03:21,359
the matter regarding a loan

4477
03:03:21,359 --> 03:03:24,479
authorization for 25,895,000

4478
03:03:24,479 --> 03:03:26,240
for the project funding request for

4479
03:03:26,240 --> 03:03:27,760
rehabilitation of city hall of

4480
03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:29,359
considenc.

4481
03:03:29,359 --> 03:03:31,120
Recommend the council approve this

4482
03:03:31,120 --> 03:03:33,840
request. Are there questions or comments

4483
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:37,429
on this one?

4484
03:03:37,439 --> 03:03:41,349
Councelor Sincler.

4485
03:03:41,359 --> 03:03:42,880
» Thank you, Madam President. I just

4486
03:03:42,880 --> 03:03:46,080
wanted to point out we just referred a

4487
03:03:46,080 --> 03:03:49,920
um a a order to finance and property

4488
03:03:49,920 --> 03:03:52,960
regarding the looming financial forecast

4489
03:03:52,960 --> 03:03:54,800
and I think that was sort of the crux of

4490
03:03:54,800 --> 03:03:56,880
what we just talked about. So we're

4491
03:03:56,880 --> 03:03:59,200
going to approve a project without

4492
03:03:59,200 --> 03:04:00,640
knowing how we're going to deal with the

4493
03:04:00,640 --> 03:04:03,359
budget that is before us. We're going to

4494
03:04:03,359 --> 03:04:05,200
be talking about that soon, but here we

4495
03:04:05,200 --> 03:04:08,800
are voting on it now. So just thought

4496
03:04:08,800 --> 03:04:10,800
I'd point that out. I'm I'm voting no on

4497
03:04:10,800 --> 03:04:11,920
this.

4498
03:04:11,920 --> 03:04:14,800
Thank you, councelor St. Heler.

4499
03:04:14,800 --> 03:04:16,080
Is there other discussion from

4500
03:04:16,080 --> 03:04:21,910
councilors on this order?

4501
03:04:21,920 --> 03:04:24,399
Councelor Sp. Thank you, Madam

4502
03:04:24,399 --> 03:04:27,439
President. Um, as the W 2 city councelor

4503
03:04:27,439 --> 03:04:30,560
and where city hall services and helps

4504
03:04:30,560 --> 03:04:32,640
out all members of the community, but it

4505
03:04:32,640 --> 03:04:36,000
does sit in W 2, I'd be remiss not to

4506
03:04:36,000 --> 03:04:37,840
point out I think everybody agrees that

4507
03:04:37,840 --> 03:04:40,640
the building needs work. So, I don't

4508
03:04:40,640 --> 03:04:42,319
think there's any disagreement on that

4509
03:04:42,319 --> 03:04:45,520
or the merits of the project. I'm voting

4510
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:49,680
in favor of it. Uh, mostly because I

4511
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:52,800
understand the concerns that if of how

4512
03:04:52,800 --> 03:04:55,920
much more it would cost if we delayed

4513
03:04:55,920 --> 03:04:59,439
the vote for a year or two years. Um,

4514
03:04:59,439 --> 03:05:01,279
and that the fact that the city has

4515
03:05:01,279 --> 03:05:04,000
already put 1.5 million towards this

4516
03:05:04,000 --> 03:05:08,399
project and worked on it for years. Um,

4517
03:05:08,399 --> 03:05:10,319
and so that's where my thinking is

4518
03:05:10,319 --> 03:05:11,920
coming from for this.

4519
03:05:11,920 --> 03:05:14,479
>> Thank you, councelor Spang. Is there any

4520
03:05:14,479 --> 03:05:15,920
other discussion or comments from

4521
03:05:15,920 --> 03:05:21,670
counselors on this order?

4522
03:05:21,680 --> 03:05:23,279
Okay. The question comes on the

4523
03:05:23,279 --> 03:05:24,960
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4524
03:05:24,960 --> 03:05:26,880
of the order. And before I ask you for

4525
03:05:26,880 --> 03:05:29,200
your vote, I will remind us this is a

4526
03:05:29,200 --> 03:05:31,279
loan authorization vote. This requires a

4527
03:05:31,279 --> 03:05:33,760
twothirds majority rather than a simple

4528
03:05:33,760 --> 03:05:36,640
majority. Uh so acceptance the proposal

4529
03:05:36,640 --> 03:05:38,720
and adoption of the order. All those in

4530
03:05:38,720 --> 03:05:43,990
favor I

4531
03:05:44,000 --> 03:05:46,640
all those opposed

4532
03:05:46,640 --> 03:05:49,359
that carries 7 to two which does

4533
03:05:49,359 --> 03:05:52,080
constitute a twothirds majority. Uh so

4534
03:05:52,080 --> 03:05:56,080
that order does pass. Thank you.

4535
03:05:56,080 --> 03:05:57,279
Um this

4536
03:05:57,279 --> 03:05:59,279
>> order number 10A the committee on

4537
03:05:59,279 --> 03:06:00,720
finance and property to whom referred

4538
03:06:00,720 --> 03:06:03,279
the matter for a depth stabilization

4539
03:06:03,279 --> 03:06:05,520
transfer request for two million dollars

4540
03:06:05,520 --> 03:06:07,760
for the project funding request for

4541
03:06:07,760 --> 03:06:09,600
rehabilitation at city hall have

4542
03:06:09,600 --> 03:06:11,439
considen matter and beg leave default

4543
03:06:11,439 --> 03:06:12,960
recommend the council approve this

4544
03:06:12,960 --> 03:06:14,640
request. Are there questions or comments

4545
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:17,600
on this one?

4546
03:06:17,600 --> 03:06:19,120
The question comes on the acceptance of

4547
03:06:19,120 --> 03:06:20,960
the proposal and adoption of the order.

4548
03:06:20,960 --> 03:06:24,479
All those in favor I.

4549
03:06:24,479 --> 03:06:27,680
and all those opposed.

4550
03:06:27,680 --> 03:06:32,800
The order carries 72. Thank you.

4551
03:06:32,800 --> 03:06:34,399
>> Order number 11. The committee on

4552
03:06:34,399 --> 03:06:35,760
finance and property to whom referred

4553
03:06:35,760 --> 03:06:37,040
the matter regarding an appointment for

4554
03:06:37,040 --> 03:06:39,359
Donna Matarazzo to serve as city

4555
03:06:39,359 --> 03:06:40,800
accountant have considered a matter and

4556
03:06:40,800 --> 03:06:41,920
beg leave to follow. Recommend the

4557
03:06:41,920 --> 03:06:43,760
council approve this appointment. Other

4558
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:46,240
questions or comments on this one?

4559
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:47,840
Question comes on the acceptance of the

4560
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:49,439
proposal and adoption of the order. All

4561
03:06:49,439 --> 03:06:51,840
those in favor? I.

4562
03:06:51,840 --> 03:06:54,399
That carries 90.

4563
03:06:54,399 --> 03:06:56,240
Order number 16. The committee on

4564
03:06:56,240 --> 03:06:57,600
finance and property to whom further the

4565
03:06:57,600 --> 03:06:59,120
matter regarding a reappointment for

4566
03:06:59,120 --> 03:07:00,800
Brian Als to serve as director of

4567
03:07:00,800 --> 03:07:02,399
municipal finance have considered a

4568
03:07:02,399 --> 03:07:03,840
matter and begley to follow. Recommend

4569
03:07:03,840 --> 03:07:05,680
the council approve this reappoint.

4570
03:07:05,680 --> 03:07:08,319
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4571
03:07:08,319 --> 03:07:09,760
the acceptance of the proposal and

4572
03:07:09,760 --> 03:07:11,439
adoption of the order. All those in

4573
03:07:11,439 --> 03:07:13,520
favor I.

4574
03:07:13,520 --> 03:07:16,240
That car. Oh. Uh, any opposed?

4575
03:07:16,240 --> 03:07:18,720
>> Oh, sorry. Okay. So,

4576
03:07:18,720 --> 03:07:20,800
>> wait. You oppose, Bryant? No, [laughter]

4577
03:07:20,800 --> 03:07:23,600
I don't think so. I was gonna say I I

4578
03:07:23,600 --> 03:07:25,680
was just gonna say yeah.

4579
03:07:25,680 --> 03:07:27,840
>> No, luckily he left.

4580
03:07:27,840 --> 03:07:29,920
>> I'm sorry. I figured it out. We were all

4581
03:07:29,920 --> 03:07:32,399
raising our hand for the beginning. Um

4582
03:07:32,399 --> 03:07:34,720
just for my own clarity and for for

4583
03:07:34,720 --> 03:07:36,479
everybody watching, all those in favor

4584
03:07:36,479 --> 03:07:37,680
I.

4585
03:07:37,680 --> 03:07:40,479
>> That carries 9 Z. Thank you. Order

4586
03:07:40,479 --> 03:07:42,080
number 17, the committee on finance and

4587
03:07:42,080 --> 03:07:43,279
property to whom referred the matter

4588
03:07:43,279 --> 03:07:45,680
regarding an $850,000 grant from the

4589
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:47,520
Mass Executive Office of Housing and

4590
03:07:47,520 --> 03:07:50,319
Livable Communities have considered said

4591
03:07:50,319 --> 03:07:51,359
matter and beg leave to follow.

4592
03:07:51,359 --> 03:07:52,560
Recommend the council approve this

4593
03:07:52,560 --> 03:07:54,399
request. Questions or comments on this

4594
03:07:54,399 --> 03:07:56,960
one? Question comes on the acceptance of

4595
03:07:56,960 --> 03:07:58,720
the proposal and adoption of the order.

4596
03:07:58,720 --> 03:08:05,510
All those in favor? I. That carries 90.

4597
03:08:05,520 --> 03:08:07,760
Order number 18, the committee on

4598
03:08:07,760 --> 03:08:09,040
finance and property to whom referred

4599
03:08:09,040 --> 03:08:10,800
the matter regarding a $3,000 donation

4600
03:08:10,800 --> 03:08:12,399
from the Beverly Female Charitable

4601
03:08:12,399 --> 03:08:14,160
Society to support the council on aging

4602
03:08:14,160 --> 03:08:15,760
have considered the matter and beg me to

4603
03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:17,040
follow. Recommend the council approve

4604
03:08:17,040 --> 03:08:19,920
this request. Questions or comments?

4605
03:08:19,920 --> 03:08:21,439
The question comes on the acceptance of

4606
03:08:21,439 --> 03:08:23,040
the proposal and the adoption of the

4607
03:08:23,040 --> 03:08:25,600
order. All those in favor I. That

4608
03:08:25,600 --> 03:08:27,520
carries 90. And our thanks to the

4609
03:08:27,520 --> 03:08:29,279
Beverly Female Charitable Society for

4610
03:08:29,279 --> 03:08:31,680
that donation for our council on aging.

4611
03:08:31,680 --> 03:08:33,040
Order number 19, the committee on

4612
03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:34,800
finance and property to whom referred

4613
03:08:34,800 --> 03:08:37,120
the matter regarding a $10,000 anonymous

4614
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:39,200
donation for the council on aging have

4615
03:08:39,200 --> 03:08:40,640
considered the matter and beg me to

4616
03:08:40,640 --> 03:08:41,920
follow. Recommend the council approve

4617
03:08:41,920 --> 03:08:44,720
this request. Questions or comments?

4618
03:08:44,720 --> 03:08:46,319
Question comes on the acceptance of the

4619
03:08:46,319 --> 03:08:48,000
proposal and adoption of the order. All

4620
03:08:48,000 --> 03:08:51,760
those in favor I. That carries 90 and

4621
03:08:51,760 --> 03:08:53,680
thanks to that donor if they are

4622
03:08:53,680 --> 03:08:55,680
following along for that generous gift.

4623
03:08:55,680 --> 03:08:56,960
Order number 20, the committee on

4624
03:08:56,960 --> 03:08:58,560
finance and property to whom for the

4625
03:08:58,560 --> 03:09:02,950
matter regarding a $163,964

4626
03:09:02,960 --> 03:09:05,279
911 EOPSS

4627
03:09:05,279 --> 03:09:07,439
OGR support and incentive grant have

4628
03:09:07,439 --> 03:09:09,279
cons considered said matter and beg

4629
03:09:09,279 --> 03:09:10,640
leave to follow. Recommend the council

4630
03:09:10,640 --> 03:09:11,680
approve this request.

4631
03:09:11,680 --> 03:09:14,319
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4632
03:09:14,319 --> 03:09:15,760
the acceptance of the proposal and

4633
03:09:15,760 --> 03:09:17,279
adoption of the order. All those in

4634
03:09:17,279 --> 03:09:20,800
favor I. That carries 90. Order number

4635
03:09:20,800 --> 03:09:22,160
21 of the committee on finance and

4636
03:09:22,160 --> 03:09:23,359
property to whom referred the matter

4637
03:09:23,359 --> 03:09:28,309
regarding a $69,6328

4638
03:09:28,319 --> 03:09:31,840
911 EOPSS ogr 911 training grant have

4639
03:09:31,840 --> 03:09:33,279
considered said matter and beg to

4640
03:09:33,279 --> 03:09:34,560
follow. Recommend the council approve

4641
03:09:34,560 --> 03:09:35,359
this request.

4642
03:09:35,359 --> 03:09:37,760
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4643
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:39,120
the acceptance of the proposal and

4644
03:09:39,120 --> 03:09:40,640
adoption of the order. All those in

4645
03:09:40,640 --> 03:09:43,920
favor I that carries 90. Order number

4646
03:09:43,920 --> 03:09:45,359
22. The committee on finance and

4647
03:09:45,359 --> 03:09:46,560
property to whom refer the matter

4648
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:48,800
regarding a mass D technical assistant

4649
03:09:48,800 --> 03:09:50,399
grant have considered the matter and beg

4650
03:09:50,399 --> 03:09:51,760
leave to follow. Recommend the council

4651
03:09:51,760 --> 03:09:53,600
approved this request. Questions or

4652
03:09:53,600 --> 03:09:55,680
comments? Question comes on the

4653
03:09:55,680 --> 03:09:57,439
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4654
03:09:57,439 --> 03:10:00,080
of the order. All those in favor I. That

4655
03:10:00,080 --> 03:10:02,240
carries 90. Order number 23. The

4656
03:10:02,240 --> 03:10:03,520
committee on finance and property to

4657
03:10:03,520 --> 03:10:05,200
whom referred the matter regarding a

4658
03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:08,479
2500 mass executive office of labor and

4659
03:10:08,479 --> 03:10:10,886
workforce development and education

4660
03:10:10,886 --> 03:10:12,080
[clears throat] grant have considered

4661
03:10:12,080 --> 03:10:14,080
the matter. recommend the council

4662
03:10:14,080 --> 03:10:15,200
approve the request.

4663
03:10:15,200 --> 03:10:17,760
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4664
03:10:17,760 --> 03:10:19,120
the acceptance of the proposal and

4665
03:10:19,120 --> 03:10:20,479
adoption of the order. All those in

4666
03:10:20,479 --> 03:10:23,680
favor? I. That carries 90. Order number

4667
03:10:23,680 --> 03:10:25,040
24. The committee on finance and

4668
03:10:25,040 --> 03:10:26,479
property to whom refer the matter

4669
03:10:26,479 --> 03:10:28,399
regarding a mass tech collaborative mass

4670
03:10:28,399 --> 03:10:30,720
broadband institute connected and online

4671
03:10:30,720 --> 03:10:33,040
grant have considered matter and beg

4672
03:10:33,040 --> 03:10:34,560
thee to follow. Recommend the council

4673
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:36,319
approve this request. Questions or

4674
03:10:36,319 --> 03:10:38,479
comments? Question comes on the

4675
03:10:38,479 --> 03:10:40,160
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4676
03:10:40,160 --> 03:10:42,560
of the order. All those in favor? I.

4677
03:10:42,560 --> 03:10:43,840
That carries 90.

4678
03:10:43,840 --> 03:10:45,279
>> Order number 25. The committee on

4679
03:10:45,279 --> 03:10:46,720
finance and property to whom refer the

4680
03:10:46,720 --> 03:10:49,840
matter regarding a $15,000 mass cultural

4681
03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:52,080
council district investment grant have

4682
03:10:52,080 --> 03:10:53,600
considered a matter and beg leave to

4683
03:10:53,600 --> 03:10:55,040
follow. Recommend the council approve

4684
03:10:55,040 --> 03:10:57,439
this request. Questions or comments?

4685
03:10:57,439 --> 03:10:58,960
Question comes on the acceptance of the

4686
03:10:58,960 --> 03:11:00,640
proposal and adoption of the order. All

4687
03:11:00,640 --> 03:11:03,920
those in favor? I. That carries 90.

4688
03:11:03,920 --> 03:11:05,840
>> Order number 26. The committee on

4689
03:11:05,840 --> 03:11:07,200
finance and property to whom referred

4690
03:11:07,200 --> 03:11:10,000
the matter regarding a $100 donation

4691
03:11:10,000 --> 03:11:11,920
from David Madona to be used to purchase

4692
03:11:11,920 --> 03:11:14,160
Shaw's gift cards for veterans have

4693
03:11:14,160 --> 03:11:15,520
considered the matter and beg leave to

4694
03:11:15,520 --> 03:11:16,800
follow. Recommend the council approve

4695
03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:19,200
this request. Questions or comments?

4696
03:11:19,200 --> 03:11:20,800
Question comes on the acceptance of the

4697
03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:22,319
proposal and adoption of the order. All

4698
03:11:22,319 --> 03:11:25,279
those in favor I. That carries 90 and

4699
03:11:25,279 --> 03:11:26,720
thank you to Mr. Mandanka for that

4700
03:11:26,720 --> 03:11:29,520
donation for our veterans. Order number

4701
03:11:29,520 --> 03:11:30,800
27, the committee on finance and

4702
03:11:30,800 --> 03:11:32,160
property to whom referred the matter

4703
03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:35,120
regarding a $550,000 SE port economic

4704
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:38,080
council grant for commercial hoist pier

4705
03:11:38,080 --> 03:11:39,760
reconstruction have considered matter

4706
03:11:39,760 --> 03:11:42,640
and beg to follow. Set a public hearing

4707
03:11:42,640 --> 03:11:46,399
for February 2nd at 8:45 p.m. I would

4708
03:11:46,399 --> 03:11:48,000
entertain a motion to set that public

4709
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:49,600
hearing as recommended by the

4710
03:11:49,600 --> 03:11:54,240
subcommittee for February 2nd 8:45 p.m.

4711
03:11:54,240 --> 03:11:56,560
>> All those in favor?

4712
03:11:56,560 --> 03:11:57,920
>> Thank you. So, we'll set that public

4713
03:11:57,920 --> 03:11:59,600
hearing that carries 9:0. We'll set that

4714
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:01,120
for our February 2nd meeting and it'll

4715
03:12:01,120 --> 03:12:03,600
be at 8:45 p.m. Order number 32, the

4716
03:12:03,600 --> 03:12:04,960
committee on finance property to whom

4717
03:12:04,960 --> 03:12:06,479
refer the matter regarding a $50

4718
03:12:06,479 --> 03:12:08,880
donation from John Lindal in memory of

4719
03:12:08,880 --> 03:12:10,479
Daniel Beecher, the owner of Northshore

4720
03:12:10,479 --> 03:12:12,960
carpet to support the Beverly Police

4721
03:12:12,960 --> 03:12:14,160
Department have considered said matter

4722
03:12:14,160 --> 03:12:15,600
and begley to follow. Recommend the

4723
03:12:15,600 --> 03:12:17,359
council approve this request. Questions

4724
03:12:17,359 --> 03:12:19,760
or comments? Question comes on the

4725
03:12:19,760 --> 03:12:21,359
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4726
03:12:21,359 --> 03:12:23,920
of the order. All those in favor? I.

4727
03:12:23,920 --> 03:12:25,760
That carries 90 and thank you to Mr.

4728
03:12:25,760 --> 03:12:28,080
Landalf for that donation as well.

4729
03:12:28,080 --> 03:12:30,000
>> Order number 43, the committee on

4730
03:12:30,000 --> 03:12:32,240
finance and property to whom refer the

4731
03:12:32,240 --> 03:12:34,479
matter regarding a proposed proposal to

4732
03:12:34,479 --> 03:12:36,000
create a temporary special committee to

4733
03:12:36,000 --> 03:12:37,760
explore options for addressing the

4734
03:12:37,760 --> 03:12:40,479
looming 2027 forecasted budget deficit.

4735
03:12:40,479 --> 03:12:42,319
Have considered matter and beg leave to

4736
03:12:42,319 --> 03:12:46,800
follow. Send it to legal affairs.

4737
03:12:46,800 --> 03:12:50,240
Thank you very much. Uh so we this is

4738
03:12:50,240 --> 03:12:51,520
basically just moving from one

4739
03:12:51,520 --> 03:12:52,960
subcommittee to the next. So legal

4740
03:12:52,960 --> 03:12:55,948
affairs um you will have over 43

4741
03:12:55,948 --> 03:12:57,359
[clears throat] to be able to take up at

4742
03:12:57,359 --> 03:13:01,590
the next meeting.

4743
03:13:01,600 --> 03:13:03,359
No,

4744
03:13:03,359 --> 03:13:06,080
>> I think I can just refer it there. Yeah.

4745
03:13:06,080 --> 03:13:09,279
Um order 33. The committee on legal fees

4746
03:13:09,279 --> 03:13:10,720
to refer the matter regarding a renewal

4747
03:13:10,720 --> 03:13:12,160
application for taxi delivery license

4748
03:13:12,160 --> 03:13:14,720
for Tri CD services have considered

4749
03:13:14,720 --> 03:13:16,479
matter and beg to follow recommend the

4750
03:13:16,479 --> 03:13:19,359
license be granted. Uh there questions

4751
03:13:19,359 --> 03:13:21,840
or comments on this one? Question comes

4752
03:13:21,840 --> 03:13:23,359
on the acceptance of the proposal and

4753
03:13:23,359 --> 03:13:24,800
adoption of the order. All those in

4754
03:13:24,800 --> 03:13:28,479
favor I. That carries 90. Order number

4755
03:13:28,479 --> 03:13:30,319
34. The committee on legal affairs to

4756
03:13:30,319 --> 03:13:31,520
whom referred the matter regarding a

4757
03:13:31,520 --> 03:13:33,200
renewal application for a class 2 motor

4758
03:13:33,200 --> 03:13:35,120
vehicle dealer license for AJ's mobile

4759
03:13:35,120 --> 03:13:37,520
detailing at 453 rele street have

4760
03:13:37,520 --> 03:13:40,160
considered said matter and beg leave to

4761
03:13:40,160 --> 03:13:41,439
follow. Recommend that license be

4762
03:13:41,439 --> 03:13:44,000
granted. Questions or comments? Question

4763
03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:45,520
comes on the acceptance of the proposal

4764
03:13:45,520 --> 03:13:47,120
and adoption of the order. All those in

4765
03:13:47,120 --> 03:13:50,319
favor? I. That carries 90. Order number

4766
03:13:50,319 --> 03:13:52,080
35. The committee on legal fees to whom

4767
03:13:52,080 --> 03:13:53,520
referred the matter regarding a renewal

4768
03:13:53,520 --> 03:13:55,120
application for a class 2 motor vehicle

4769
03:13:55,120 --> 03:13:57,200
deal license for American Petroleum at

4770
03:13:57,200 --> 03:14:00,239
586 Cabat Street have considered matter

4771
03:14:00,239 --> 03:14:02,160
and begley to follow. We recommend the

4772
03:14:02,160 --> 03:14:03,600
council approve this license.

4773
03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:06,239
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4774
03:14:06,239 --> 03:14:07,520
the acceptance of the proposal and

4775
03:14:07,520 --> 03:14:09,040
adoption of the order. All those in

4776
03:14:09,040 --> 03:14:12,080
favor I. That carries 90. Order number

4777
03:14:12,080 --> 03:14:13,760
36. The committee on legal affairs to

4778
03:14:13,760 --> 03:14:14,880
whom referred the matter regarding a

4779
03:14:14,880 --> 03:14:16,560
renewal application for a class 2 motor

4780
03:14:16,560 --> 03:14:18,640
vehicle deal license for a bridto corp

4781
03:14:18,640 --> 03:14:22,160
dba autodine at 810 ran to uh rare road

4782
03:14:22,160 --> 03:14:24,800
ab have considered matter and begley to

4783
03:14:24,800 --> 03:14:26,720
follow recommend the license be granted.

4784
03:14:26,720 --> 03:14:29,040
Questions or comments? Question comes on

4785
03:14:29,040 --> 03:14:30,319
the acceptance of the proposal and

4786
03:14:30,319 --> 03:14:31,760
adoption of the order. All those in

4787
03:14:31,760 --> 03:14:35,279
favor I that carries 90. Order number

4788
03:14:35,279 --> 03:14:36,800
39, the committee on legal affairs to

4789
03:14:36,800 --> 03:14:38,560
whom referred the matter regarding a

4790
03:14:38,560 --> 03:14:40,160
renewal application for Hawkins and

4791
03:14:40,160 --> 03:14:42,399
pedals license for George Samson at 22

4792
03:14:42,399 --> 03:14:43,920
Federal Street have considers matter and

4793
03:14:43,920 --> 03:14:45,600
begley to follow. Recommend the license

4794
03:14:45,600 --> 03:14:46,560
be granted.

4795
03:14:46,560 --> 03:14:48,960
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4796
03:14:48,960 --> 03:14:50,399
the acceptance of the proposal and

4797
03:14:50,399 --> 03:14:51,885
adoption of the order. All those in

4798
03:14:51,885 --> 03:14:55,359
[snorts] favor I. That carries 90. Order

4799
03:14:55,359 --> 03:14:56,960
41. The committee of legal affairs to

4800
03:14:56,960 --> 03:14:58,479
whom referred the matter regarding a new

4801
03:14:58,479 --> 03:15:00,000
application for a taxi delivery license

4802
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,439
for Bass River day activity program 437

4803
03:15:03,439 --> 03:15:06,319
Essex Street have considency to follow.

4804
03:15:06,319 --> 03:15:07,920
Recommend the license be granted.

4805
03:15:07,920 --> 03:15:10,319
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4806
03:15:10,319 --> 03:15:11,680
the acceptance of the proposal and

4807
03:15:11,680 --> 03:15:13,200
adoption of the order. All those in

4808
03:15:13,200 --> 03:15:16,800
favor I. That carries 90. Order number

4809
03:15:16,800 --> 03:15:18,479
42. The committee on legal fees to whom

4810
03:15:18,479 --> 03:15:20,479
referred the matter regarding a proposed

4811
03:15:20,479 --> 03:15:22,160
proposal to create a coin memorial

4812
03:15:22,160 --> 03:15:23,920
subcommittee citizen matter and beg

4813
03:15:23,920 --> 03:15:25,040
leave to follow. I recommend the council

4814
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:27,120
approve this request.

4815
03:15:27,120 --> 03:15:28,720
Are there questions or comments on this

4816
03:15:28,720 --> 03:15:31,279
one?

4817
03:15:31,279 --> 03:15:34,160
This is a proposed ordinance change. So,

4818
03:15:34,160 --> 03:15:36,319
this is available for a first vote this

4819
03:15:36,319 --> 03:15:41,110
evening

4820
03:15:41,120 --> 03:15:44,319
» or solicitor has something to say about

4821
03:15:44,319 --> 03:15:45,120
it.

4822
03:15:45,120 --> 03:15:48,000
>> Um, I believe this is intended to be a

4823
03:15:48,000 --> 03:15:51,120
proposed order, not an ordinance change.

4824
03:15:51,120 --> 03:15:52,960
um based on discussion in the

4825
03:15:52,960 --> 03:15:54,960
subcommittee of Mr. Mady

4826
03:15:54,960 --> 03:15:57,279
>> if I'm wrong I'm happy to

4827
03:15:57,279 --> 03:16:00,000
>> go through the procedure for that but

4828
03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:00,880
>> no you're right

4829
03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:02,399
>> okay [laughter] I say if that was the

4830
03:16:02,399 --> 03:16:03,920
discussion in the subcommittee and and

4831
03:16:03,920 --> 03:16:06,479
that then that is works for me thank you

4832
03:16:06,479 --> 03:16:08,640
very much in that case other questions

4833
03:16:08,640 --> 03:16:10,399
or comments

4834
03:16:10,399 --> 03:16:11,520
>> then the question comes on the

4835
03:16:11,520 --> 03:16:12,960
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4836
03:16:12,960 --> 03:16:15,680
of the order all those in favor I

4837
03:16:15,680 --> 03:16:18,399
>> that carries 90 order number 44 the

4838
03:16:18,399 --> 03:16:21,600
committee on legal affairs to whom

4839
03:16:21,600 --> 03:16:23,439
for the matter regarding approve a

4840
03:16:23,439 --> 03:16:25,040
conservation restriction to the Essex

4841
03:16:25,040 --> 03:16:26,800
County Green Belt Association on land

4842
03:16:26,800 --> 03:16:28,800
owned by the city of Beverly 14 and 34

4843
03:16:28,800 --> 03:16:30,640
Simon have considered said matter and

4844
03:16:30,640 --> 03:16:31,920
beg leave to follow. Recommend the

4845
03:16:31,920 --> 03:16:33,680
council approve this request. Questions

4846
03:16:33,680 --> 03:16:36,160
or comments? Question comes on the

4847
03:16:36,160 --> 03:16:37,680
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4848
03:16:37,680 --> 03:16:40,800
of the order. All those in favor I. That

4849
03:16:40,800 --> 03:16:43,439
carries 90.

4850
03:16:43,439 --> 03:16:45,279
Order number 12. The committee on public

4851
03:16:45,279 --> 03:16:47,040
services to whom referred the matter

4852
03:16:47,040 --> 03:16:48,080
regarding an appointment for John

4853
03:16:48,080 --> 03:16:49,439
Reynolds to serve on the veterans

4854
03:16:49,439 --> 03:16:51,359
advisory committee have considered the

4855
03:16:51,359 --> 03:16:53,439
matter and begley to follow. The council

4856
03:16:53,439 --> 03:16:55,600
approves this appointment. Questions or

4857
03:16:55,600 --> 03:16:57,680
comments? Question comes on the

4858
03:16:57,680 --> 03:16:59,200
acceptance of the proposal and adoption

4859
03:16:59,200 --> 03:17:02,000
of the order. All those in favor I that

4860
03:17:02,000 --> 03:17:03,680
carries 90.

4861
03:17:03,680 --> 03:17:05,120
>> Number 13, the committee on public

4862
03:17:05,120 --> 03:17:08,000
services to whom referred the matter

4863
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:10,479
regarding a reappointment for Joanne Pen

4864
03:17:10,479 --> 03:17:13,200
Penazu to serve on the trustees of the

4865
03:17:13,200 --> 03:17:16,000
board of public library have considered

4866
03:17:16,000 --> 03:17:17,200
such a matter and beg leave to follow.

4867
03:17:17,200 --> 03:17:18,319
Recommend the council approve this

4868
03:17:18,319 --> 03:17:19,200
reappoint.

4869
03:17:19,200 --> 03:17:21,680
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4870
03:17:21,680 --> 03:17:23,040
the acceptance of the proposal and

4871
03:17:23,040 --> 03:17:24,399
adoption of the order. All those in

4872
03:17:24,399 --> 03:17:27,680
favor? I. That carries 90. Order number

4873
03:17:27,680 --> 03:17:30,080
14, the committee on public services to

4874
03:17:30,080 --> 03:17:31,520
whom refer the matter regarding a

4875
03:17:31,520 --> 03:17:32,960
reappointment for Colleen Michaels to

4876
03:17:32,960 --> 03:17:34,160
serve on the trustees of the public

4877
03:17:34,160 --> 03:17:35,600
library have considered said matter and

4878
03:17:35,600 --> 03:17:36,800
beg leave to follow. Recommend the

4879
03:17:36,800 --> 03:17:38,399
council approve this reappoint.

4880
03:17:38,399 --> 03:17:40,479
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4881
03:17:40,479 --> 03:17:41,840
the acceptance of the proposal and

4882
03:17:41,840 --> 03:17:43,279
adoption of the order. All those in

4883
03:17:43,279 --> 03:17:46,960
favor I that carries 90. Order number

4884
03:17:46,960 --> 03:17:48,800
15. The committee on public services to

4885
03:17:48,800 --> 03:17:50,080
whom refer the matter regarding a

4886
03:17:50,080 --> 03:17:52,720
reappointment from Mary Burl to serve on

4887
03:17:52,720 --> 03:17:54,720
the trustees of public library have

4888
03:17:54,720 --> 03:17:56,160
considered to send matter and beg to

4889
03:17:56,160 --> 03:17:57,279
follow recommend the council approve

4890
03:17:57,279 --> 03:17:58,000
this appointment.

4891
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:00,319
>> Questions or comments? Question comes on

4892
03:18:00,319 --> 03:18:01,680
the acceptance of the proposal and

4893
03:18:01,680 --> 03:18:03,120
adoption of the order. All those in

4894
03:18:03,120 --> 03:18:06,319
favor I that carries 90. Order number

4895
03:18:06,319 --> 03:18:08,720
47. The committee on public services to

4896
03:18:08,720 --> 03:18:10,000
whom referred the matter regarding a

4897
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:12,319
petition 31234447

4898
03:18:12,319 --> 03:18:14,479
to install underground facilities on Bo

4899
03:18:14,479 --> 03:18:16,560
Wallace Cabin and Abbott Street have

4900
03:18:16,560 --> 03:18:18,479
considered matter and begley to follow.

4901
03:18:18,479 --> 03:18:21,200
Set a public hearing on February 2nd at

4902
03:18:21,200 --> 03:18:23,680
7:30 p.m. I would entertain a motion to

4903
03:18:23,680 --> 03:18:25,359
set that public hearing as recommended

4904
03:18:25,359 --> 03:18:27,840
by the subcommittee February 2nd 7:30

4905
03:18:27,840 --> 03:18:29,520
p.m.

4906
03:18:29,520 --> 03:18:31,359
All those in favor?

4907
03:18:31,359 --> 03:18:33,120
>> Thank you. So that's 90 and we'll set

4908
03:18:33,120 --> 03:18:35,359
that public hearing for our February 2nd

4909
03:18:35,359 --> 03:18:37,200
meeting 7:30 p.m.

4910
03:18:37,200 --> 03:18:38,880
>> Order number 48, Committee on Public

4911
03:18:38,880 --> 03:18:40,239
Services to whom refer the matter

4912
03:18:40,239 --> 03:18:42,960
regarding a petition 31247668

4913
03:18:42,960 --> 03:18:44,560
to install underground facilities on

4914
03:18:44,560 --> 03:18:46,960
Cabbat Street. Have considered matter

4915
03:18:46,960 --> 03:18:48,640
and beg to follow. Set a public hearing

4916
03:18:48,640 --> 03:18:51,120
on February 2nd at 7:40 p.m. I would

4917
03:18:51,120 --> 03:18:52,560
entertain a motion to set that public

4918
03:18:52,560 --> 03:18:53,760
hearing as recommended by the

4919
03:18:53,760 --> 03:18:57,600
subcommittee February 2nd 7:40 p.m.

4920
03:18:57,600 --> 03:19:00,640
>> All those in favor? That carries 90.

4921
03:19:00,640 --> 03:19:02,319
Order number 49, the committee on public

4922
03:19:02,319 --> 03:19:03,520
services to whom referred the matter

4923
03:19:03,520 --> 03:19:04,960
regarding a petition to install and

4924
03:19:04,960 --> 03:19:06,399
maintain underground facilities on

4925
03:19:06,399 --> 03:19:07,840
Ashton Street have considered said

4926
03:19:07,840 --> 03:19:09,520
matter and begley to fall set a public

4927
03:19:09,520 --> 03:19:12,880
hearing on February 2nd at 7:50 p.m. I

4928
03:19:12,880 --> 03:19:14,399
would entertain a motion to set that

4929
03:19:14,399 --> 03:19:15,840
public hearing as recommended by the

4930
03:19:15,840 --> 03:19:19,439
subcommittee February 2nd 7:50 p.m.

4931
03:19:19,439 --> 03:19:21,120
>> All those in favor?

4932
03:19:21,120 --> 03:19:24,160
>> Carries 90. Order number 50, the

4933
03:19:24,160 --> 03:19:25,760
committee on public services to whom

4934
03:19:25,760 --> 03:19:27,279
further matter regarding a petition to

4935
03:19:27,279 --> 03:19:28,640
install and maintain underground

4936
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:30,479
facilities on Friend Street have

4937
03:19:30,479 --> 03:19:32,160
considered said matter and beg leave to

4938
03:19:32,160 --> 03:19:35,200
follow. Set a public hearing on February

4939
03:19:35,200 --> 03:19:37,600
2nd at 8:10 p.m. I would entertain a

4940
03:19:37,600 --> 03:19:39,600
motion to set that public hearing as

4941
03:19:39,600 --> 03:19:41,279
recommended by the subcommittee February

4942
03:19:41,279 --> 03:19:43,600
2nd 8:10 p.m.

4943
03:19:43,600 --> 03:19:46,399
>> All those in favor that carries 90.

4944
03:19:46,399 --> 03:19:48,000
Order number 51, the committee on public

4945
03:19:48,000 --> 03:19:49,279
services to whom refer the matter

4946
03:19:49,279 --> 03:19:51,040
regarding a pet petition to install and

4947
03:19:51,040 --> 03:19:52,560
maintain underground facilities on East

4948
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:55,359
Street have considers matter matter beg

4949
03:19:55,359 --> 03:19:57,200
to follow. Set public hearing February

4950
03:19:57,200 --> 03:20:00,080
2nd at 8:30 p.m. I would entertain a

4951
03:20:00,080 --> 03:20:01,439
motion to set that public hearing as

4952
03:20:01,439 --> 03:20:03,120
recommended by the subcommittee February

4953
03:20:03,120 --> 03:20:05,840
2nd 8:30 p.m.

4954
03:20:05,840 --> 03:20:09,760
>> All those in favor? That carries 90. Uh

4955
03:20:09,760 --> 03:20:12,800
thank you very much, Miss Kent. And so

4956
03:20:12,800 --> 03:20:15,439
that brings us to the end of our agenda

4957
03:20:15,439 --> 03:20:18,720
for this evening. Um that was a very

4958
03:20:18,720 --> 03:20:20,640
full agenda to start off the term. Thank

4959
03:20:20,640 --> 03:20:22,720
you to everybody who joined us here in

4960
03:20:22,720 --> 03:20:25,279
council chambers. Thank you to uh city

4961
03:20:25,279 --> 03:20:26,479
staff. Thank you to members of the

4962
03:20:26,479 --> 03:20:28,960
public who came and spoke, listened and

4963
03:20:28,960 --> 03:20:32,000
engaged. Thank you to Mr. Beckwith and

4964
03:20:32,000 --> 03:20:34,000
uh members of the CPC. Although Mr.

4965
03:20:34,000 --> 03:20:37,120
Beckwith, I see that you are the last CPC member standing. You've

4966
03:20:37,120 --> 03:20:40,399
made it till the very end. Um, thank you

4967
03:20:40,399 --> 03:20:42,399
for the discussion and conversation

4968
03:20:42,399 --> 03:20:45,600
among counselors. Um, councelor Sonia,

4969
03:20:45,600 --> 03:20:47,040
welcome. We had a chance to welcome

4970
03:20:47,040 --> 03:20:48,720
councelor Mady at the end of the last

4971
03:20:48,720 --> 03:20:50,800
term. Um, we did not have a chance to

4972
03:20:50,800 --> 03:20:52,640
welcome you officially. Of course, you

4973
03:20:52,640 --> 03:20:54,560
at the inauguration you were, but it's a

4974
03:20:54,560 --> 03:20:56,479
pleasure to have you joining us up here.

4975
03:20:56,479 --> 03:20:59,344
Um, not every meeting is this long.

4976
03:20:59,344 --> 03:21:00,000
[laughter]

4977
03:21:00,000 --> 03:21:06,790
>> This is fun.

4978
03:21:06,800 --> 03:21:08,880
» Uh, thank you. of course to Kim in the

4979
03:21:08,880 --> 03:21:10,560
Bev Cam booth for keeping our meeting

4980
03:21:10,560 --> 03:21:13,279
accessible and available to everyone

4981
03:21:13,279 --> 03:21:14,720
whether they were able to be here with

4982
03:21:14,720 --> 03:21:16,800
us or not. Counselors, are there any

4983
03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:18,239
announcements or reminders from the

4984
03:21:18,239 --> 03:21:19,840
council? Councelor Retundo and then

4985
03:21:19,840 --> 03:21:20,640
councelor Malady.

4986
03:21:20,640 --> 03:21:22,720
>> I just want to make one statement from

4987
03:21:22,720 --> 03:21:24,560
last weekend with the uh start of the

4988
03:21:24,560 --> 03:21:26,399
Beverly 400 plus. I wanted to thank

4989
03:21:26,399 --> 03:21:28,399
everyone involved. Great to see so many

4990
03:21:28,399 --> 03:21:30,479
families down at Lynch Park as well as

4991
03:21:30,479 --> 03:21:32,479
the community conversation. Get a full

4992
03:21:32,479 --> 03:21:34,800
year of a lot of events. So, I just want

4993
03:21:34,800 --> 03:21:36,479
to just kind of put my shout out to the

4994
03:21:36,479 --> 03:21:38,000
committee who put that together last

4995
03:21:38,000 --> 03:21:39,600
week. Thank you.

4996
03:21:39,600 --> 03:21:41,120
>> Thank you. And thank you to you as well,

4997
03:21:41,120 --> 03:21:43,200
councelor Ratundo for your work.

4998
03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:46,399
>> Councelor Mady.

4999
03:21:46,399 --> 03:21:48,399
>> Thank you very much. Uh on November

5000
03:21:48,399 --> 03:21:51,040
28th, the uh Beverly youth lacrosse

5001
03:21:51,040 --> 03:21:53,840
program and Beverly youth football um

5002
03:21:53,840 --> 03:21:55,920
lost a supporter and a parent named Russ

5003
03:21:55,920 --> 03:21:59,439
Gordon. And this um upcoming Saturday uh

5004
03:21:59,439 --> 03:22:02,479
the 24th at 4 o'clock at Inner Cycle um

5005
03:22:02,479 --> 03:22:04,880
they're doing a fundraiser for uh Russ's

5006
03:22:04,880 --> 03:22:07,600
son uh Bradley and his mom Christina. Uh

5007
03:22:07,600 --> 03:22:10,479
if anybody is interested or available in

5008
03:22:10,479 --> 03:22:13,040
um giving a financial donation uh to

5009
03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:14,399
them, it would be greatly appreciated.

5010
03:22:14,399 --> 03:22:15,359
Thank you.

5011
03:22:15,359 --> 03:22:17,520
>> Thank you very much, counselor. Are

5012
03:22:17,520 --> 03:22:19,120
there other announcements or reminders

5013
03:22:19,120 --> 03:22:22,710
from the council?

5014
03:22:22,720 --> 03:22:25,359
All right. Well, as we heard, our next

5015
03:22:25,359 --> 03:22:28,000
regular meeting is February 2nd. We did

5016
03:22:28,000 --> 03:22:30,000
just set a number of public hearings. We

5017
03:22:30,000 --> 03:22:31,920
also do have a presentation scheduled

5018
03:22:31,920 --> 03:22:33,520
from the Beverly Human Rights Committee.

5019
03:22:33,520 --> 03:22:34,960
So, we'll get to hear from them about

5020
03:22:34,960 --> 03:22:36,880
their work and have a chance to ask some

5021
03:22:36,880 --> 03:22:38,880
questions if you have them. And with

5022
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that, I would entertain a motion to

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adjurnn.

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>> All those in favor? Thank you very much.

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We're journed. Good night, everyone.

5026
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Thank you.

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Hello.