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We will call this meeting to order. Let's start off with roll call.

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Chair Kevin.

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Present.

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Commissioner Waco. Present.

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Commissioner Bor.

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Commissioner Corroso.

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Commissioner Fréder.

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Present.

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Commissioner Araja.

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Commissioner Udoma.

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Present.

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Commissioner Gepaay.

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Present.

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Commissioner Turner.

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President.

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Council Member McGarvey.

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Chair, do you have a card?

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Awesome. All right, let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Pledge

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of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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All right, we'll jump to 1.2 here.

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Please be advised, the public hearings are recorded and televised live

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on cable television and web stream over the internet at brooklynpark.org. The

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audio system will not pick up comments from the seating area. If you want to be

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heard and made part of the public record, please go to the podium. If

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participating remotely, turn on your camera, speak into the microphone stating

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your full name and address. Please sign the public hearing log book on the

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table near the entrance to the council chambers if you are attending in

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person to ensure accuracy of name and address in the public record.

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Please note that the agenda for tonight's meeting indicates that the Commission Chair

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has the prerogative to invoke a time limit for speakers during any public hearing in

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the interest of maintaining focus and the effective use of time.

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Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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The Planning Commission consists of 11 resident volunteer members, two of which are young

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adult members appointed by the City Council to advise the City Council on planning and

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land use issues. The Commission discusses and evaluates development proposals based on zoning

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regulations and comprehensive plan policies. The Planning Commission vote is a recommendation

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that is forwarded to the City Council for official and final action.

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All right, we'll move to item three on the agenda, the approval of the agenda.

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Are there any additions or changes to the agenda?

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Not.

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May I have a motion to approve the agenda as presented?

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So moved.

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All right, the motion has been made.

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It has been seconded.

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Any further discussion?

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All in favor?

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say aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, motion carries. The next agenda item is the approval

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of the consent agenda which includes the minutes from the previous meetings.

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Are there any changes

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to the meeting minutes for consent agenda?

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Can I get a motion? All

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right, motion has

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been made. Can I get a second? All right. Second. It has been second. All in favor say

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aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right. Motion carries. The next item is 5.1.

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Planning case Q2 edition.

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QT.

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Good evening Chair Kavan and members of the Planning Commission for the record

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Cara Donovan, senior planner, and I am presenting a preliminary

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plac case this evening to 4121 for QT edition. The applicant

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proposes expanding the applicant's property at 6909

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Winnet Avenue North to accommodate their expanding

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business.

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So the properties are located in the southwest

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portion of the city on Winnet Avenue North just north of

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694.

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The subject properties are 3.4 acres and they

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business and industrial properties,

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sorry.

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The applicant is requesting approval of a preliminary

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plot, which will move the Western property line

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to the West slightly.

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So if you see that little curvature, essentially,

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the property line will be moved over to the West,

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which you'll see in the preliminary plot.

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The property is Zoned Business Park District

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and is surrounded by Business Park District and Industrial.

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So the preliminary plot is on the screen

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and you can see lot one on the East.

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It will be a little clearer on the next screen.

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And lot two on the west.

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Lot one is owned by the applicant,

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which we have a representative online tonight

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if we have any questions for them.

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It's a little bit easier to see on this screen,

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but lot one is on the east side.

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That will be 2.5 acres.

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And on the west side, the lot two will become 0.8 acres.

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Staff recommends approval of this preliminary plot

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with conditions listed in the draft resolution.

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and this concludes staff presentation.

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Okay.

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Does the applicant have anything to add at this time?

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We can come back to you.

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We'll come back.

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We'll open it up to the public.

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Anyone from the public would like to speak to this fine item?

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Not saying any.

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All right, we'll close the public portion

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and bring it back to the commissioners.

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Commissioners, any questions?

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I have one.

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And so does the applicant own both parcels right now,

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and they're just dividing the lot or?

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No, the applicant owns the eastern property that

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will be expanded, not the western property.

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And currently that lot is empty?

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The western lot has a parking lot,

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and the eastern lot has an existing building on site

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and a parking lot, as you can sort of see in this image.

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any plans for a lot to they want to do with that lot to is not owned by the

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applicant I'm not aware of any interested in development in the future

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commissioner

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welcome yet just follow up to chairs question in terms of so is there

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a change of ownership for lot two or who's requesting this change thank you

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the owner of lot one or the owner of lot one on the eastern side is the

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applicants and they are looking to expand their property to the West with they've

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been in discussions with the owner of the lot to to do this work so there is no

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change of title yet right I mean it's not acquired and I guess in terms of the

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right to request any use of it the entitlement to the parcel is not

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created yet, right? The title will, I'm not sure, one moment.

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Thank you Chair Kavan,

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members of the Planning Commission. A title commitment has been drawn up by the

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the applicant for the proposal of purchasing this lot until the lot has

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been legally subdivided. They can't purchase a portion of a legal lot so they

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once the application is completed and approved and then the plat has been

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filed then they can close on the property. So there is an agreement in place for the transfer

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of the property.

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Oh, okay. There is agreement between the owner of LAT 1 and LAT 2.

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That's correct. We do have consent from both parties.

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Okay, that makes sense. Is the owner of LAT 2 here present today to say anything on

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this?

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Yeah, I guess the kind of, you know, where I'm going with this is in the absence of entitlement

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to the parcel or seeing agreement, it will be hard for owner of LAT 1 to request any

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changes on LAT 2 that has not yet established ownership of the space yet.

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So maybe the owner of LAT 2 should request for the purpose of, you know, this change.

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I don't know.

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Chair Kavanagh and council members or planning commission members, in order to process an

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application we don't permit an application to be made on behalf of someone else.

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For this application we did require legal documentation showing that this application

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is approved by both parties.

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So we didn't just allow this property owner to make a request to move the lot line onto

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the neighboring parcel.

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They have a legal agreement, there is a title commitment in place that our legal

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team is required to review before applications such as this are brought to city council. So

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we do have permission from both property owners. QT, the property owner of lot one was the legal

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applicant in this case. So they are the contact for staff to work with on this request.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. You did say that there's an agreement in place.

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But this agreement has not been consummated yet, so it can still fall apart.

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Is that my understanding?

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Thank you, Karen Chauvin.

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Members of the Planning Commission, that is correct.

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At this point, the sale is contingent on the approval of the Platt.

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Yes, and then that also brings me back to the Commissioner's point.

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Shouldn't the owner of Lot 2 be the one requesting this instead of Lot 1?

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on because it seems like they're jumping the gun

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when this thing can still fall apart.

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Because if we go ahead and do this,

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you know, and I agree to this in my humble opinion,

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then we're also jumping the gun

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because if it falls apart,

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then wouldn't it still be binding

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that we have subdivided somebody else's plot,

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you know, when they haven't purchased it yet?

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The county won't allow for the filing of the plat

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without the signatures of both.

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They the county requires on the plat so I know we're only looking at the preliminary plat

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But in cases we have brought for the final plat for you to look at the planning commission doesn't need to

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Approve the final plat that only goes straight to city council, but there's a signature block that has I believe it's 15 different

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Signatures it starts with the county has to sign off on it the surveyor has to sign off on it the city manager

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manager, the mayor also has to sign off on it, but also a party from each property if

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it is under different ownership is required legally by the county and by statute to sign

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the plat.

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So the county will not file it without notarized signatures from both parties so they can't

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legally be filed without that approval from both parties.

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Okay, why don't they wait till all these things are done before they bring it

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over?

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And why rush it down when everything is not signed?

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I'm just curious.

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You want to?

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Yes, Chair Kaven and members of the Planning Commission.

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This is legally the first step.

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So that piece of the property line can't be moved

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without the permission of both parties.

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And the current owners of the QT parcel

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can't purchase that additional land until it's split.

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So legally this is what needs to happen first both parties will sign the final plat

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And then the financial then they can close on the lot

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I also wanted to go back to a previous question and just say that

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You're not reviewing any

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entitlements for use of that new area yet that would happen later once the

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The new lot is created and the closing happens and then any new use would come back to you. So legally

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this is the first step. That lot has to be, the lot line needs to be moved before anything

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else can happen.

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Yeah, I'm not arguing with that, but thank you. My, you know, my point of discussion is

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that what if this falls apart, you know, then what happens? And, you know, I know that,

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you know, everybody signed off, but it's not done. You know, it can still fall apart.

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what happens then if that happens.

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That's all I wanted to know.

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Chair Kavan, members of the Planning Commission, thank you.

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So I will go back to this aerial photo.

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So this case was very unique in that the actions stemmed

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from our enforcement, our neighborhood health team

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had concerns about code violations on this site

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that stemmed from outdoor storage.

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However, as you can see from this aerial,

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there was some encroachment on the neighboring land by vehicles that were

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parked outside of the ordinance not on paved surface. So when the city approached

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them it was determined that the parking lot in order for them to remain parked

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there they would have to expand the parking lot but in order to do that they

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would have to purchase a portion of the lot.

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Owned by the adjacent property owner. So in the event that this plat does not get approved or that falls apart, the property owner would have to cease parking on that lot, which they already have to because there's no parking lot there, but they would not be able to expand that.

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And so in the event that this falls through, they would need to reestablish any vegetation that was disturbed.

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So this is a step towards coming into compliance.

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The property owner is interested in expanding their business and working with the city to come into compliance.

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So this is the first step.

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Once this is approved, then they will be able to work with their team on determining where that new parking lot is going to go and pave it.

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And so then they'll come into compliance.

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So if it falls through, then they just won't be able to do anything.

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They'll have to reestablish that vegetation.

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Thank you so much.

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Appreciate it.

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any other comments okay

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yeah

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thank you for the presentation first of all the

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people that want to add land to their portion they have what business are they

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doing in a one-day already occupied they're

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a roofing business so

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now with

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this coming to us yet what what what what is required because all of the

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question my co-worker, even the destination she gave, I understand that. But what is expected

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of us here? Now, why is it before us when the green mass going nowhere to secure that

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place?

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Yeah, you can go to the microphone so they can pick it up. Sorry.

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To move a lot line in the city of Brooklyn Park, and it's pretty consistent throughout

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about all the cities, a planning process has to happen.

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You can't just buy some property from your neighbor

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and describe it, buy it and then do it.

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The city wants to get involved so that doesn't happen

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where they end up with unconforming lots

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and stuff like that.

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So the planning process is just the two people

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get together, have a bigger lot.

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They want to split it in a different way than it is now.

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They have to go through this process first to get the split then they can

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Sell them that little piece of property that they

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And back in the day you just bought that little piece property, but the cities don't

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Request you to plat stuff now

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So you got to go through this process to move the lot line once the lot lines moved

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Then they can move forward on developing their little piece of property

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in, and that would all come back at you guys before they would have to show you what they're

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trying to do.

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So if I get you right, we are just here to show whether that portion can be split off

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the other side.

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Correct.

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That's all we're going to do.

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You guys are okay with that.

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Okay.

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Sorry about that.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for your permission.

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Yeah.

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For me?

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for that. Can you turn your mic on?

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My question is, okay, they want this little piece of land.

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What happens if they decide down the road that they want to expand it more than what

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they're asking for? What do we do then? You'd have to come before you guys. Then again.

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Another planning process, correct.

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From my little understanding of this here,

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it makes more sense to make up your mind on exactly how much

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space you want and how much space the other

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landowner is willing to give up

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if you're going to grow a business. You don't take a small lot.

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A small lot will get

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filled up and then now you you have no space to do anything so I mean my thing

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is I have no issues signing off on it but in the long run they're still gonna

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come back and do it again that's that is my only my only worry chair cave in

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and Council, or members of the Planning Commission.

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Thank you.

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I do understand what you, where your concern is.

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Staff's review did indicate that.

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So the lot two that's currently there,

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that was, that will be staying that way

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because the property owner would still be able

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to develop that.

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So there's the parking area.

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There's also room for them to build another structure.

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So at this time, that was the maximum

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that that property owner was willing to sell so lot to that that's what that's

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going to be in the future if they change their mind the property owners could

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come to an agreement separate from the city so right now it's only to move the

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request is to move the line from right here to right here the only request that

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they want to know is if you guys are okay with moving that line to the

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new location it's so there's no development proposed at this time they

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They're not expanding anything right now.

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They just want to move the line from one spot to another.

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Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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I have one question.

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Maybe just a clarification.

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And I'm not of attorney background.

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So, but this is, you know,

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in the absence of not hearing from owners of lab one and two.

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Is this really the process to really draw a line or even planning commission to say okay

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to draw a line when we haven't heard from, you know, the owners and what kind of precedent

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that would be and I just curious about the process and maybe I, you know, I want to

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learn more about the process itself and we're letting here move a line where the rightful

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owners are not here expressing.

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Yes.

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Do you want to take that or?

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I can try.

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Go ahead.

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Thank you, Chair Gaven and members of the Planning Commission.

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The applicants are not required to be at the Planning Commission meetings.

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We do invite them.

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I believe that there's somebody online right now, but they're not required to be here

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What they are required to do is to go through the application process with staff part of that is requiring a title commitment, which our

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City attorney does review and that requires both applicants or sorry both law owners to be party to that

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also Hennepin County reviews the plat

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proposal and

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That is part of the process and so even though the applicants may not be here tonight

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staff has worked with them and Hennepin County has worked with them along with our city attorneys.

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I don't have anything to add. Okay. Thanks. Just feel comfortable.

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Another thing I wanted to understand and I kind of overshadowed the two the two the two

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last we are talking about for two different people and if I got you right the person that

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that once the adjustment is the one that the product request.

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Yes, so the applicant is the owner of lot one

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on the east side that will be expanding.

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The other property owner of lot two

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is not necessarily the applicant,

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but they are involved in the process.

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Okay, what I'm looking at as a concern is this,

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we are two different people with on land,

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here on land, here on land.

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One person comes to request.

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is this city aware that the other person is involved or the person that is making a request

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came and said, oh, I made agreement with that person because in that way,

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I'm not a judge

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or I'm not a lawyer in any way, but I see something that is for me is fishy. One person

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wants it, he comes and says, okay, I talked to the other person so that they can give

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in a portion of land. How sure are we that the other person that the person he's requesting

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to land from actually agreed that he wants our land to be moved?

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Yes. It's a good question. The second law owner would be required to provide their signatures,

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therefore signing off on the process. So they provided those signatures?

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They will once this application goes through City Council and then we have the final

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and they will sign on that signature block that Erin McDermott explained earlier.

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So they will be required.

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Are we putting the cart before the house?

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No.

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Because I think the other person should have some agreement

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who can even say, okay, we agree that the land can be moved.

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I would be very happy to send you our applicant summary

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for all of our land use policies.

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We have a PDF that walks applicants through step-by-step

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on what the application is required.

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We do require as part of ordinance for the subdivision consent from both parties

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It is a part of the application before they can even get to the city

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They have to obtain

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Signatures from both property owners to make sure that they have the legal authority to do this before we even consider it

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They have to provide us proof that they can't I would be very happy to walk through all of our application processes

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So you guys can see what happens before these items get to you

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But this request is a specific request, and so I think that maybe at the next meeting that

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we have, kind of educate, so that you guys know what happens before you get to and have

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all of the information in front of you, I would be very happy to put together a presentation

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for you.

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It's just a little bit of a concern I'm having here because, I mean, I'm looking ahead from

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a layman, I see people, I'm from a place where people can fight over land easily.

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Right.

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And then I do understand it.

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Or somebody sells a parcel and the person's going, oh, you sold my parcel of land.

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That's why I would like to be able to provide you with the assurances that staff is doing

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what we need to do to protect both parties as well as the city.

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So I think that having that educational portion to go through what is required for each of the applications would be beneficial moving forward

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Okay, I'm gonna say thank you

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commissioner war

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So in summary what I'm understanding is that you have a process

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We are a check-in balance as a commission within that process that you brought forward to show us

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what's happening and rest assured that you will gather all the proper signatures in the

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legality of it all. We simply are here to say, yep, we get it, it makes sense, but

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we are not responsible to assure that you follow your work. I mean, I'm taking it as

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you know your job and you do that. I'm not going to worry that you haven't got the

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signatures because you wouldn't be here if you didn't.

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That's correct. We also, all of these procedures are written out in statute. So

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If you are interested, it's in the code and I can direct you there as well if you're interested.

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So thank you.

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So yeah, and just to add on to that, the city attorney will, you know, obviously guide this before it gets approved by city council and the county will not approve any plat until all the signatures are final.

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There are still more checks as we go along.

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Pressure off.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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It's the way it is.

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Can I get a motion?

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I will motion.

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To recommend approval of a preliminary plot for QT edition at 6909 Wanaka Avenue North for the creation of two lots.

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All right. Can I get a second?

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I'll second the motion.

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All right. Motion has been made. It has been seconded.

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Any further discussion?

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Thank you.

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Let's vote all in favor.

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Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Yes. Thank you. All right. Motion carries with eight, four, one against.

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All right, we're moving on to the next

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agenda item.

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Is it...

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Well, any other business?

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Yeah,

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I remember those.

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All right, we'll move to number three.

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We have a

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discussion item tonight.

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Yeah.

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So when is it going to council?

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Oh, that item will be going to the November 25th city council meeting.

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November 25th.

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Thank you.

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No.

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It's Monday before things.

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Oh, that's Monday.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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an applicant is still on the phone so I think they they heard that as well so

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all right let's go to item seven Northwest Metro Transit Park and ride

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discussion. Good evening Chair Kevan members of the Planning Commission I'm

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here to discuss the Northwest Area Parking Ramp. This item is coming before

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for you.

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As a discussion due to the city moving forward with the blue line, the next part of this process

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that is involved is Met Council and Metro Transit are planning to replat the property near Target

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Corporate Canvas along Oak Grove Parkway. There are a number of smaller properties that

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are all under similar ownership and there is a plan realignment of Oak Grove Parkway

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for the blue line extension with this being the first stop on the blue line. So this is

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an aerial photo of all the undeveloped land in that area. As part of the stationary plan

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as adopted in 2018, this intersection shown is the future site of the park and ride

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which will be built by Metro Transit.

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So this discussion is coming before you tonight

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because due to the time that has gone by

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since the adoption in 2018,

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the code has changed some of the,

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and the council and the commissions have changed.

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And so we wanted to come to verify

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that you are still interested in the park and ride site the way that it was

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proposed and adopted in the station area plan. There was a request to consider

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the possibility of moving the park and ride to the corner. This is the park and

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ride as it exists in the station area plan so as you can see the white box is

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the Park and Ride, with the green structures surrounding the Park and Ride for future development.

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The way that it was designed initially is to be pedestrian friendly. There is access

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to the Oak Grove Parkway Station, which is the yellow box throughout the site. So

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So this image is turned. The south would be on the left. So to the east of the park and

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ride as well as from the entire perimeter. So there was a request to see if there was

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any interest in moving the park and ride site to what is the top left of this image

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to move it onto the corner. I

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like it. I'm okay with as proposed. Although I thought

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But we talked about the setback lines and we're getting things closer to the, I forget if

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this is zone TOD, right, okay, so that wasn't part of, yeah, I don't think that was part

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of bringing everything to the, closer to the street, is that correct?

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Well, so within the zoning district everything is required to be between 1 and 12 feet from

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the property line so that is either the commercial or mixed use opportunities

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where the green buildings are or the park and ride so if if the small the

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station area plan were to be amended the park and ride would be required to be

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one to 12 feet from that corner okay so right up on the sidewalk or there

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would we can have it wrapped by commercial or housing opportunities on

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on all four sides with access to the sidewalk.

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The green space to the east,

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the bottom of the picture?

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Is that your reference?

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I'm sorry, to the north.

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That is, I thought that was a potential development.

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That's correct.

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The way that the station area is set up

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is for intended development to wrap around the parking

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ramp so that it is not visible from the street the way it's currently presented yep okay yeah

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I like that it's just still hidden or yeah above ground yeah it is it's a I forget four

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stories or three the parking the structure 900

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parking stalls I believe that it is it

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was four levels.

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There's also at this point in the discussion Metro Transit is

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considering putting two levels underground for public use or use for the

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developments around but that's still in negotiations. The reason we're bringing

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this forward today is in the very near future this body will be considering the

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subdivision which is the same process that we just went through for the

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realignment of the street. And so with that we also need to know where the

488
00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:21,490
property line for the park and ride will be being will be placed.

489
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Sounds great.

490
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:30,240
And then the who's responsible for maintenance of the trees everything

491
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:35,360
else on Broadway. So at at this point so the the maintenance of the streets

492
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,080
gaping is is city owned the the streets gaping on the property line

493
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,780
depending on who has the ownership.

494
00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:47,860
So right now the intent would be

495
00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:50,020
that Met Transit would own the parking ramp.

496
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:53,720
And because of the setback requirements,

497
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,420
they would own that property,

498
00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:59,400
and then the property owners of the developments around it

499
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,640
would be under different ownership.

500
00:36:01,060 --> 00:36:03,320
So that could look a few different ways

501
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,300
there could be a joint agreement for maintenance

502
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120
depending on what that ownership looks like.

503
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:19,240
Got it. And then when I look at this, this appears at this oak grove is the final station.

504
00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:26,400
I thought in the past it was a small maintenance garage that continues.

505
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:34,800
Is that not the case? So there will be the maintenance facility to the north here.

506
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:39,680
So if you are looking at this site, the maintenance facility will be up on this site.

507
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,860
This will be the first station of the blue line for public access.

508
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,860
This is where everyone can get onto the blue line and ride.

509
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,580
Okay.

510
00:36:50,620 --> 00:36:51,960
Can you go back to that other plan?

511
00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:53,640
Definitely. This one?

512
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:54,900
One more back.

513
00:36:56,500 --> 00:37:00,500
All right. So it continues and then turn to the right, I mean to the left.

514
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:07,440
So the blue, yeah, the blue line on there is the blue line.

515
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,600
All right,

516
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:16,220
I'll shut up. Let others speak. I

517
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:29,970
like the design. I like, you know, 922 spaces

518
00:37:29,970 --> 00:37:33,430
really very good to accommodate a lot of needs.

519
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,860
I think maybe one question is the bus ride

520
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:46,760
on the noble and that will continue, right, with the blue line coming and parking.

521
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,140
That's correct. Metro Transit will continue to maintain that ramp at Noble. This is just

522
00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:56,620
to accommodate different people getting on at different portions.

523
00:37:57,420 --> 00:37:59,560
Okay. Yeah, good. Thank you.

524
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:08,850
I think my question is more related to the parking ride that's literally less than a

525
00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:14,510
mile away. How would that impact the activity there? Have we thought about the flow and,

526
00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:21,070
You know because of course right across the street is is still empty and what are the what are the plans there?

527
00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:26,150
I know we had some previous discussions around that, but just wonder, you know, how would that impact?

528
00:38:27,290 --> 00:38:30,510
You don't want things to not be utilized, right?

529
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:34,870
So part of the blue line is to the proposal to obtain

530
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:41,310
Federal funding and other funding for this site requires a very thorough level of detail

531
00:38:41,310 --> 00:38:58,030
We have a very wonderful group of engineers who've done all of those traffic analyses to make sure that the addition of this parking ramp isn't going to, you know, make a different parking ramp obsolete that we definitely don't want to see that we don't want vacant ramps just sitting there in the city.

532
00:38:58,890 --> 00:39:08,390
So they've done those analyses and this is intended to serve the need for this area, especially with the anticipated development.

533
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:13,230
I know that you guys are very excited to hear about the Northwest Area Plan and we will be

534
00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:17,110
Getting to those discussions fairly quickly actually

535
00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:19,630
That project is well under the way

536
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:26,530
So this project is really like the epicenter of three very cool projects that are going on in the city

537
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:32,330
That you guys will all be hearing about fairly quickly here the Northwest Area Plan the biotech innovation district

538
00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:37,390
and then with this being the first stop for the blue line in the city, I think this is a very

539
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:45,330
important property because this is like really where a lot of people are going to have that point of contact with Brooklyn Park

540
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:51,530
So this is intended to also serve what hasn't yet been developed when

541
00:39:57,740 --> 00:39:58,880
this first came out, but

542
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,940
Do those stoplights there is that a walkway or do they all is that a

543
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:09,300
crossing traffic

544
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:18,390
I don't know if I'm tracking where it's my understanding that there is a pedestrian target. How do they get across under?

545
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:25,790
Yeah, there's a pedestrian walkway. They're under the street to ensure like so the part of this plan was to ensure the pedestrian safety

546
00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:30,590
Nate they wanted to make sure like so there's not you minimize the conflict

547
00:40:30,590 --> 00:40:38,110
Okay, there's no overpass bridge walkway. They I believe it goes under which is very similar to a lot of others

548
00:40:38,110 --> 00:40:41,150
So like the underpass under Noble here,

549
00:40:41,410 --> 00:40:42,590
if you were to walk from the city

550
00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:44,270
past the water treatment plant,

551
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:46,130
it goes underneath the street.

552
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:48,810
We've been utilizing that a lot.

553
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:52,130
There's similar walkway by North Park

554
00:40:52,610 --> 00:40:55,370
to get under the streets that have limited visibility

555
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:57,450
and actually there's a new one going in

556
00:40:58,030 --> 00:41:00,730
in very close proximity to this project,

557
00:41:01,630 --> 00:41:04,570
just to north of where this map is.

558
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:06,410
Okay, and then my other question is

559
00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:09,550
You referred to another parking ramp, not far away.

560
00:41:09,870 --> 00:41:11,050
Is that the one at Noble?

561
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:13,170
Or is that near here?

562
00:41:13,870 --> 00:41:15,510
The one at Noble.

563
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:19,070
That's often empty and race cars are in there quite often.

564
00:41:19,330 --> 00:41:24,310
So I do worry about, I do worry about that much space

565
00:41:24,310 --> 00:41:26,290
because I can hear the race cars in my house.

566
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:31,110
That's very, so I worry too about us over building

567
00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:33,130
for no apparent reason.

568
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:34,970
And then we have other things that happen.

569
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:45,700
I think that that ramp was built with the anticipation for the light rail and then due to, I mean, a lot of different circumstances it was put on hold.

570
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:54,080
I think that once the light rail comes through that we'll see decrease in activities like that just due to the need for public parking.

571
00:41:56,810 --> 00:42:01,410
It would be nice to have some security and payment process so people are going to go in there and race.

572
00:42:01,570 --> 00:42:02,750
They at least have to pay to get in.

573
00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:09,110
I just wanted to make a clarification point that the parking garage or the parking lot

574
00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:14,090
at Noble and 610, that's for the bus rapid transit service, whereas this one would be

575
00:42:14,090 --> 00:42:14,790
for the light rail.

576
00:42:15,150 --> 00:42:19,030
And there's another one at 63rd in the southern part of the city that will also be a parking

577
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:20,950
ramp for the light rail.

578
00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:25,750
And then the crossing here would be at grade is what's proposed right now for pedestrians.

579
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:27,030
Thank you.

580
00:42:35,230 --> 00:42:36,010
Got everything you need.

581
00:42:37,090 --> 00:42:37,690
I do.

582
00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:38,230
Thank you.

583
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:43,850
Is there any additional feedback that you guys want me to bring back to the light real team on this this

584
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:46,090
Parking ramp

585
00:42:46,970 --> 00:42:48,270
What does the purple mean?

586
00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:49,910
so the

587
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:54,370
part of the Northwest area plan is to come up with a utility plan and

588
00:42:55,010 --> 00:43:03,250
Street plan so those are it's just showing potential for across streets as we do the development in the area

589
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:04,150
That's

590
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
great. Thank you very much for your time. All

591
00:43:15,810 --> 00:43:16,070
right

592
00:43:16,670 --> 00:43:26,170
moving on to Council Member Garvey isn't here so we'll move on to number nine

593
00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:28,910
any Planning Commission comments not

594
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:39,060
see any move on to number oh come I

595
00:43:41,330 --> 00:43:41,970
have a

596
00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:49,190
comment says that the Council representative is not here I'd like to

597
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:54,230
you know, what's going on with the mall that has, you know,

598
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:58,810
called for and target that the whole area is, yeah, it seems

599
00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:04,290
like, you know, businesses are kind of living that mall. Is

600
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:09,890
there a reason do we have a plan in place to do something

601
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:13,290
with it when, you know, I heard through the Grave and

602
00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:15,870
that maybe, you know, target or call for one of them

603
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:25,930
So what does the city plan to do, if anything, because they seem to be more on the 16 corridor

604
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:27,750
than this other side?

605
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:37,930
That's where Council Member McGarvey is right now at the community discussion for the closing

606
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:38,430
of COV.

607
00:44:39,350 --> 00:44:42,770
That's why he could be here, but Tim just walked in.

608
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:46,430
and I'm sure he has a vision on what that area.

609
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:50,530
So we're just having a great time talking about that cup

610
00:44:50,530 --> 00:44:52,670
and the target over there in that corner.

611
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:56,550
So our new economic development leader here.

612
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:58,410
I would like to take this opportunity

613
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:59,970
to introduce you to our new...

614
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,020
Community Development Director Tim Gladhill, who can speak on what you're asking about.

615
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Thank you for having me. Talked about good timing. I just got back from that workshop at this small business center that I was talking about Cub Foods Target Area.

616
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,960
First, a little bit about me. Tim Gladhill, Community Development Director, EDA Executive Director as well.

617
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Happy to be here. You'd love to hear that I'm a planner by trade. That's how it will actually get my start in public works.

618
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,940
I went into planning and that's been my career trajectory so I spent many hours at these

619
00:45:30,940 --> 00:45:35,380
meetings with planning commissions over the years, you do all amazing work.

620
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,560
So just walk in, I've been meaning to come and get to know you all and just say hi, timing

621
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,360
just hasn't worked out.

622
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,060
It just so happened, wrapped up a workshop at the Small Business Center about Brooklyn

623
00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:49,060
Boulevard and West Broadway and the increased vacancies there.

624
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,400
We are really in a fact-finding mode, what is the community needs, what do they

625
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,200
They want to see strategies, everything from do nothing, what the private market do, what

626
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,620
the private market does, to aggressive redevelopment and maybe some things in between.

627
00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:09,520
So with a good community dialogue, we acknowledge that vacancies are increasing from an economic

628
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,080
development perspective that can be scary, but I think Brooklyn Park and of all communities

629
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,400
has risen to this occasion time and time again and fill that with really great local

630
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,500
businesses as well.

631
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:26,380
So, our focus right now is how do we support the employees that get displaced from these

632
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:32,080
closures and then how do we use our tools, whether it's adjusting zoning rules, intent,

633
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,800
or the financial tools that can really access capital so we can get local entrepreneurs

634
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,640
into these spaces.

635
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:42,700
If you've been in that area, you look around and there are some really unique spaces

636
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:46,360
that have filled those vacancies of past and I think we can do that again.

637
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,420
And we spent a lot of time, conversations with property owners, businesses, community

638
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:54,780
development and police all working together to come up with solutions.

639
00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:57,920
So I wish I had the magic answer for you today.

640
00:46:58,060 --> 00:47:01,580
We're still working on it, but I think what we're really committed to right now is community

641
00:47:01,580 --> 00:47:04,100
conversations to develop the strategy together.

642
00:47:08,430 --> 00:47:09,630
So thank you for that.

643
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:14,770
I'm sure you know this, but as you start thinking about redevelopment, I think it's

644
00:47:14,770 --> 00:47:20,910
important to think about alignment with the light rail coming through there and

645
00:47:20,910 --> 00:47:26,890
what that whole area can be. You imagine, right? I think there's a lot of

646
00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:30,590
opportunities there and I think we need to think about the light rail

647
00:47:30,590 --> 00:47:35,910
alignment. And Mr. Chair, Commissioner, you know each station has a station area

648
00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:40,550
plan. Those were created many years ago. This is an opportunity to look at

649
00:47:40,550 --> 00:47:43,710
this. You know this note is a little bit more of a retrofit. Keep the

650
00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:47,610
buildings while creating community spaces and better pedestrian connections.

651
00:47:48,190 --> 00:47:50,890
And then this is an example where we're leading by example.

652
00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:56,550
We bought the entire Northlands Plaza, not only just to site our small business center,

653
00:47:56,950 --> 00:48:00,030
but we have a lot of great other tenants in that space as well.

654
00:48:00,270 --> 00:48:04,250
So this is an area where we're trying to lead by example, and it's not always easy

655
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:05,790
to make those decisions in the public.

656
00:48:06,010 --> 00:48:08,970
We invest a lot to make that happen, but it's the right decision.

657
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:27,620
Awesome. Commissioner Turner asked a question. I don't know if it's about this, but can you give us an update on where you are with the old Park and Ride and the second development proposal?

658
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:29,520
I forget when that's due.

659
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:37,840
Yeah, so that is due, I think the due date for that request for qualifications with developers is November 18th.

660
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,800
Earlier last week, we did a webinar

661
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,720
kind of with those interested parties

662
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,440
to better explain, all right,

663
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,420
we've got this RFP in written word.

664
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:49,280
Let's have a interactive dialogue

665
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,880
about what we're really looking for.

666
00:48:51,620 --> 00:48:54,100
So there were a handful of developers

667
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:55,040
that were on that call.

668
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:56,680
We know that there's more interest.

669
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,760
We did get one proposal for the Oxbow site,

670
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,860
which is the one further to the west

671
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:03,640
and up from the Park and Ride site.

672
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,620
And we expect a couple more.

673
00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:10,760
If we need to extend this, you know, we want to make the right decision. Not just who's here now

674
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,900
It's got to fit our vision. There's always a chance we extend to get the right user, but we're seeing some interest

675
00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:20,380
We'll probably start opening those December January with their EDA

676
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:27,160
So they are EDA on sites, but anytime that happens you have a key role in reviewing those proposals as well

677
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,640
Awesome. Thank you.

678
00:49:33,550 --> 00:49:35,950
Thank you. All right. Thanks to thank

679
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,020
you

680
00:49:45,720 --> 00:50:01,820
Yeah, just a couple of things. You will not have a November work session because that would be Thanksgiving. And so far you do not have any applications for your December meeting so that meeting will be cancelled as well.

681
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:10,700
I know. And by the time you come back, your planning director, Mr. Mogesh, should be back

682
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,700
in the saddle. So I just wanted to say it's been nice working with you over these months.

683
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,380
And I'm sure at some point I'll see you again.

684
00:50:17,740 --> 00:50:19,240
Absolutely. Awesome.

685
00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:20,020
Thank you.

686
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:22,820
That's right. Yeah, I could just come and hang out, right?

687
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,160
Sounds great. Awesome.

688
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,440
All right. Anything else?

689
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,160
It is, I don't know what time it is, 7.51.

690
00:50:38,660 --> 00:50:40,620
We'll adjourn the meeting. Thank you.