1 00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:07,780 To order. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:23,220 This is a workshop meeting, Tuesday, January 10, 2017. First item on the agenda is discussion regarding consent agenda items. Do we have a motion? 3 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:36,880 I'm sorry, workshop. You and I just spent 20 minutes talking through all the other stuff. So, discussion regarding consent, agenda items for the second regular meeting of January 2, 2007. 4 00:00:38,380 --> 00:00:40,820 So any discussion or comments, 5 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,600 please look over that then. 6 00:00:47,340 --> 00:00:52,080 We also have a discussion regarding statutory agenda items for the second regular meeting 7 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,300 of January 10th. 8 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:54,480 Any discussion? 9 00:00:55,780 --> 00:01:03,340 Mayor, I have, I'm not sure it's going to be answered in the workshop, but on item G statutory 10 00:01:03,340 --> 00:01:13,920 story items G about the new program to enhance Texas Avenue. I think it's a one 11 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,540 where we do a hundred thousand dollars. I think it's a great program. I think 12 00:01:18,540 --> 00:01:22,320 it's got to be done as the citizens have told us. However, I think we need to add 13 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:27,380 some items that I was hoping with our new mayor with entrepreneurial experience could 14 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:30,680 come up with some ideas that would be faster moving than a hundred thousand 15 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,820 dollars. Meaning that it's going to take more than $100,000 or some fabulous ideas to get 16 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:41,140 that taken care of. And so I don't know how to be appropriate now but I'd like to add 17 00:01:41,140 --> 00:01:46,780 that we get a systems group together that's concerned about Texas Avenue and try to maybe 18 00:01:46,780 --> 00:01:52,560 focus the $100,000 or come up with some different ideas on how to enhance it. 19 00:01:52,940 --> 00:01:56,000 So are you saying you'd like to pull this from the statutory agenda? 20 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,620 and so you could if I have to do that to add a committee to prove it for it with 21 00:02:02,620 --> 00:02:13,020 additional study but I think it's a great idea I don't give you wrong I know 22 00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:17,100 that but we can move to approve it and then point of committee is supplementary 23 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:23,260 right right the subject is just to establish the 24 00:02:23,260 --> 00:02:30,180 We need a quarter of the education grant program, and we can go a lot of directions after we establish it. 25 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:33,860 Right, so that's what I'd like to do, but add the committee so we can get working on that. 26 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:39,790 So could we pull that, because somebody's second informant will pull it and talk about it? 27 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:44,280 Okay, okay, thank you. 28 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:48,800 So we'll pull it and talk about it in the regular session, see where it goes, okay? 29 00:02:48,980 --> 00:02:49,680 Any other discussion? 30 00:02:50,420 --> 00:02:51,520 That's for you, items? 31 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,600 Okay, 32 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,280 next item is a presentation by staff regarding local area traffic management programs. 33 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:03,980 Keen. 34 00:03:04,860 --> 00:03:10,540 Mayor and Council, we have Paul Casper's going to introduce, I believe Gary Schatz, our traffic 35 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,900 consultant on this issue. 36 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,460 Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. 37 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:22,020 We're here to talk today about our local area traffic management program, maybe new to many 38 00:03:22,020 --> 00:03:22,580 of you. 39 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,080 We've really, it's fairly new in itself and the program was just established last year. 40 00:03:28,820 --> 00:03:32,700 And the intent of this presentation day is really to update you on progress of where we 41 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:37,800 are with it, not to rehash or go back through all the fine details of the program. 42 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,240 But we will kind of touch on the high points of that for you all, and then kind of show 43 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,300 where we are to date with this, to turn the presentation over in a couple of slides to 44 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:54,120 Gary to run through the rest of it and he's been very instrumental in putting this program 45 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,600 together. 46 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,620 I'd give a little history prior to having this program when someone asked, you know, 47 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:03,680 what about traffic calming, doing speed humps and bumps and things of that nature? 48 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:08,300 Well, our answer had been, we really don't do those, we don't have a unified program for 49 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:08,520 that. 50 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:16,220 I think to date we have really three installations of a couple of speed humps and one speed 51 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:16,640 table. 52 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 to a Monbaric and one by the high school. 53 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,260 So that's the extent of what we've done 54 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:26,100 and we've got to open up a whole new realm 55 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:29,040 of opportunities and possibilities with this program, 56 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,780 not just thinking along those two lines, 57 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 but also a lot of other tools in our toolbox 58 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,160 that we can use such as roundabouts 59 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,720 and other things that Gary will talk about. 60 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,060 So I think neighborhood traffic calming, 61 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,280 but we're calling the official program LATM. 62 00:04:47,420 --> 00:04:47,680 Well, 63 00:05:10,810 --> 00:05:11,970 presentation agenda today, 64 00:05:11,970 --> 00:05:14,830 Today we're going to talk about the parameters of the program, give you the results of our 65 00:05:14,830 --> 00:05:19,550 first year pilot program which started in 2016, in with some recommendations and hopefully 66 00:05:19,550 --> 00:05:24,830 a little discussion direction from you making sure we're proceeding in the right direction. 67 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:32,630 Talking about the objectives that we have for the program, really the first one I think 68 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:36,950 summarizes a lot of what we're talking about is safety and quality of life for folks who 69 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:40,890 are living along local neighborhood and residential collector streets. 70 00:05:40,890 --> 00:05:45,070 I'm talking about every street in town, we're talking about those in that neighborhood area 71 00:05:45,650 --> 00:05:51,270 and lower speeds, type of things, lower volumes, where folks are likely to be biking, 72 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:58,870 riding bikes, walking, and we want to have safe modes of transportation for them in those areas. 73 00:05:59,490 --> 00:06:03,870 To go along with that overall program, really ought to look at making sure that we don't encourage 74 00:06:03,870 --> 00:06:07,930 cut-through traffic, so it means a lot of times making sure that our arterial streets 75 00:06:07,930 --> 00:06:13,230 or handling traffic and moving them efficiently so we don't have folks wanting to divert through 76 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:18,970 neighborhoods as well so that's a side benefit to the overall program and creating opportunities 77 00:06:18,970 --> 00:06:24,170 for enhancements and focal points as we do these improvements to the neighborhood perhaps around 78 00:06:24,170 --> 00:06:28,610 about some things like that might be opportunities to do some aesthetic enhancements. 79 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:31,540 So the policy was 80 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:38,000 set up. It was under the authority of myself and we developed it with Gary's guidance. Gary came 81 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,040 to us with experience from both City of Austin and City of Houston having done programs 82 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,960 like this previously there. We kind of got the benefit of learning the mistakes all at 83 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,820 once with Gary, so a lot of the things he may have gone through in both of those cities 84 00:06:51,820 --> 00:06:56,660 he brought with solutions starting out with so I think we have a good program from the 85 00:06:56,660 --> 00:07:00,980 get go. Certainly room for improvement and we're always open to those ideas as we move forward. 86 00:07:01,580 --> 00:07:05,900 We also partnered with the fire department and police department very early in developing 87 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:10,960 this process, making sure that they understood their role would have an opportunity for some 88 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,620 veto power and certain points through the process. We also reached out to the community 89 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:20,720 neighborhood associations, got comments back and reviewed the program as well. And then 90 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:26,660 last year in January, we got the authorization from council to move forward with the program 91 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:32,960 and we launched our first call for projects, if you will, from four folks in the community 92 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,260 to give us ideas back in March last year. 93 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:45,100 Funding sources for the ultimate construction of the improvements was kind of identified, 94 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:47,740 you know, typical funding sources for street improvements. 95 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,220 So transportation fund, general fund, could be bond funds. 96 00:07:52,680 --> 00:08:02,080 And really these were the two big primary issues, speeding, being the number one safety issue 97 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,440 that we were looking for and cut through traffic quality of life issues I mentioned before was 98 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:14,520 also one of the areas that we wanted the program to at least talk about but initially right 99 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,560 away I think we aren't staffed up to be able to handle those issues. So I think for most 100 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,240 part our call for projects for the most part has been regarding speed mitigation so far 101 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:31,780 state. And that's been our initial focus for that. We kind of defined a lot of timelines 102 00:08:31,780 --> 00:08:34,360 and milestones and work through that program. 103 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:39,680 I think this is the term that I'm going to turn over to Gary here on this next slide 104 00:08:39,680 --> 00:08:41,720 is least restrictive that best mitigates. 105 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,900 I've heard him say that more than one time 106 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,340 and making sure that we document the problem well and understand 107 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:50,820 we don't want to do something that's going to create a bigger issue in the neighborhood. 108 00:08:51,820 --> 00:08:55,780 And then we define some criteria to make sure that there was a 109 00:08:55,780 --> 00:09:01,140 a vetable process of how does someone have equal standing going through the process. 110 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:05,360 is anyone can apply for it and go through the same steps with us. 111 00:09:06,060 --> 00:09:09,180 The with that I'm going to turn this over to Gary and then I'll come back up at the 112 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:09,840 last and Dennis. 113 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,080 All. 114 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:13,660 Thank you. 115 00:09:14,060 --> 00:09:17,740 Your Honor Council members, good morning and good afternoon and thank you for your time. 116 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,360 So when we talk about speeding mitigation, speeding is a public safety issue and we unfortunately 117 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:29,000 have very good data that says that a pedestrian struck by motor vehicle traveling at a certain 118 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,820 speed has a certain probability of being killed and that's what this draft represents. Unfortunately, 119 00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:43,820 those numbers are higher for children and the elderly. Which button is it for? Okay. We do because it 120 00:09:43,820 --> 00:09:50,160 is a safety issue, we want to try to create an expedited process to address those. And because also, 121 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,440 it is a safety issue, it's something that we cannot delegate our responsibility, either as professional 122 00:09:54,440 --> 00:10:01,800 engineers are stewards of the safety of the public to a community vote so petitioning is a part 123 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:08,250 of the process but it is not a sole determining factor. First thing we talked about is eligibility 124 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,710 and that starts with the traffic study. What are the speed statistics? Do we have reasonable 125 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:19,710 conformance with the speed limit or do we not? Or are there five or more speed related 126 00:10:19,710 --> 00:10:25,170 crashes that have occurred in a 24 month period? The good news and going through this pilot program, 127 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:30,210 And we had maybe on all the streets literally a handful of crashes. 128 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:37,210 They were, I think, all but one property damage only crashes, no street qualified for 129 00:10:37,210 --> 00:10:38,990 the program under the crash criteria. 130 00:10:40,210 --> 00:10:45,010 People say the crashes are happening and we see it with the mailboxes and the skid marks 131 00:10:45,010 --> 00:10:45,950 and things like that. 132 00:10:46,530 --> 00:10:52,430 But unless it's reported to Brian Police Department and a report is generated for the program 133 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:56,450 this did not happen, because we can objectively look and see what's going on with that. 134 00:10:57,470 --> 00:11:02,250 We do want to minimize impact public services, and the fire department does have veto roles. 135 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:08,370 We also don't want to conflict with other projects, or, and they just doesn't go along 136 00:11:08,370 --> 00:11:09,370 multi-lane roadways. 137 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:12,770 Somebody requested Bill of Maria in front of Blaine College. 138 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:17,370 I don't think we want to traffic home, Bill of Maria, not the right thing. 139 00:11:17,370 --> 00:11:34,170 When we look at ranking for funding, we looked at 15 weighted criteria, the higher score equals the higher priority, and just because you're eligible does not mean you're funded that becomes a process of looking at the available city budget and resources and what can we find. 140 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:43,890 That's why we have a ranking for funding process. All things considered equal who goes first, and we want to try to make that as objective and equitable as possible. 141 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:50,190 And then because our traffic studies have a finite shelf life and evidence of support 142 00:11:50,190 --> 00:11:54,970 petitions and neighborhoods have a finite shelf life, currently in the program, if you're 143 00:11:54,970 --> 00:12:00,030 unfunded after two years, your request does expire and you need to go back to the program. 144 00:12:01,230 --> 00:12:02,970 So here are our statistics. 145 00:12:03,250 --> 00:12:06,890 We had a total of 30 accepted requests of the program. 146 00:12:06,890 --> 00:12:11,130 We had more requests come in, we had, I think, 147 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:16,740 wherever got my number. 148 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:24,700 We had 16 duplicate requests, we had several people submit for the same street and the program 149 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:30,780 only recognizes one request or record for a street second and we had some individual 150 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:36,920 couple of requests that just were not ineligible or were not eligible for the program. 151 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:46,540 When we went through the entire process of these 30 of our 11 of them are eligible for funding and we'll see those later in ranked for funding order. 152 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:58,520 We did have two that were eligible but they were incomplete and one of the requirements is the requester of record has to circulate and evidence of support petition return that to us. 153 00:12:59,180 --> 00:13:03,280 Two of the requesters despite our best efforts just did not return that document. 154 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,940 So, they're incomplete and they do not take the funding. 155 00:13:07,580 --> 00:13:15,680 The other 17 were ineligible, nine of them because we couldn't document either an adverse 156 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:17,460 level of speeding or a crash history. 157 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,440 The fire department did have to veto one. 158 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,700 There are a lot of people again, they ask for villa Maria or other streets that we just, 159 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,980 you know, the street heart says we do not have to call those streets. 160 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Then three, we had active repending construction. 161 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,260 I've got to question one, go in there and tear something up, you'll put something in 162 00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:36,520 and tear it out and put it back. 163 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,320 For the fire department, what was the reason for the veto? 164 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,180 It was considered an emergency service travel route. 165 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,460 They used it a lot and they were concerned about traffic calling along their impact and 166 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:49,480 their ability to travel timely. 167 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,900 One thing that we do offer, though, is we had a caveat in the program if we went out there 168 00:13:55,900 --> 00:14:02,200 did the traffic study and the statistics were just incredibly low. Then we have the ability 169 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:08,920 to change the speed limit on that street from the statutory from a facet 30 miles an hour 170 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:15,020 down to 25 miles an hour. And we had four streets that did qualify for that. We want to go out 171 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:21,800 there after council action to approve changes to speed limit and drop those speeds on that street 172 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,320 down to 25. We limit on those streets to 25. 173 00:14:26,890 --> 00:14:29,290 So here's an example. I want to share three 174 00:14:29,290 --> 00:14:34,350 examples of what we were looking at in terms of speeding mitigation strategy. Again, the least 175 00:14:34,350 --> 00:14:42,650 restrictive that best mitigates. By doing that, it's easier to get consensus from a community 176 00:14:42,650 --> 00:14:48,370 because the more egregious the mitigation my experience is, the harder it is to get consensus. 177 00:14:48,370 --> 00:14:52,770 and we want to minimize the potential for shifting traffic to adjacent trees. 178 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:56,110 The risk isn't zero but we do want to minimize it. 179 00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:59,210 So this is trophy drive. This is actually our very first request. 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,800 The program. And they wanted us to take a look at broad more to the briar gate, as you see. Here are the speed statistics. Definitely a problem out there. And interestingly, Eastbound toward Highway 6 is the bigger problem, because everybody's using that to circumvent the signal there at 6th and we angel Brian. And a lot of folks just going too fast out there. Our proposal, two speed hunts along the street seconds. 181 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,140 It's pretty simple, pretty straightforward. 182 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,300 The location of the driveways really preclude any other strategies because we don't want to 183 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,900 put things in front of people's driveways if we can avoid it. 184 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:43,300 So two speed humps found that would fit appropriately. 185 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,840 All of these were approved by BFB prior to us, even circulating condition. 186 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:52,170 Excuse me. 187 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:54,670 This is an example of what speed humps look like. 188 00:15:56,150 --> 00:16:00,070 I've been involved with this sometimes in the past and I remember if it's an ordinance 189 00:16:00,070 --> 00:16:06,930 or a policy that, if we put a speed hump in, the neighbors have to participate in the cost, is that a factor now? 190 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:08,750 This program does not require cost participation. 191 00:16:08,850 --> 00:16:09,490 Okay, good. 192 00:16:09,850 --> 00:16:14,010 This program does recognize opportunities for a partnership. 193 00:16:14,750 --> 00:16:18,070 Let's say we have a request that is eligible but is not funded. 194 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:23,890 If they want to come up with matching funds or if they want to privately fund it, we will entertain that. 195 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:28,250 Here's another street. 196 00:16:28,250 --> 00:16:49,450 This is Esther over by BLAN, running from Carter Creek to East 29, and the challenge on this one, you know, very, very busy street, 4200 vehicles a day, BFD, our BPD is put out their speed monitoring trailer, a number of times over the years on this street, and they're still doing what they do. 197 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:07,070 So when we first took a look at this, we thought the least restrictive that would best mitigate would be four speed hunts. 198 00:17:07,370 --> 00:17:17,930 The scattered was about equal distance along the 2000 feet of street, but when we shared that with the fire department, they said no, we use that street frequently. 199 00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:22,870 So, we're okay if you do traffic calming, but you cannot do any vertical deflection devices. 200 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:25,870 So, no speed humps, no speed tables, no speed fish. 201 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:29,310 All of a sudden, we have a lot of tools taken out of our toolbox. 202 00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:36,310 And then the next most appropriate alternative in talking it over with our engineering staff 203 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:42,050 in the fire department is actually three many roundabouts, one located at each intersection. 204 00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:47,570 So as you drive through the street, you are going to have to do horizontal deflection and 205 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:50,570 we'll see that having the effect of helping the slow traffic down. 206 00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:56,950 Here is some slides that show an example of what roundabouts and many roundabouts look 207 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:57,790 back in neighborhoods. 208 00:17:58,530 --> 00:18:02,550 We don't, I apologize, we don't have anything specific for what Esther might look like, 209 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:08,850 but that is the genesis of where we would be pulling ideas from. 210 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:15,090 Excuse me, Gary, would these be smaller diameter than you have on Nash and Brodmore? 211 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:16,290 Yes, they would. 212 00:18:16,410 --> 00:18:18,710 They would be designed to fit within the existing intersection. 213 00:18:19,170 --> 00:18:22,090 We do not have a desire to move curbs. 214 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:24,610 We do not have a desire to take right away with this program. 215 00:18:24,910 --> 00:18:29,330 We want to try to do everything within the footprint of the street, or at least within the 216 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:29,970 city's right away. 217 00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:35,350 So the fire trucks would still work, do you think, vaccine dimensions? 218 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:41,930 Yes, or what what actually happens in a photo in the upper right those all of those islands are mountable 219 00:18:42,690 --> 00:18:45,490 So larger vehicles have to drive over everything 220 00:18:45,490 --> 00:18:51,650 So there'd be no there'd be no beautiful. Okay, you know, you wouldn't be you know putting a tree there or anything because you 221 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:54,290 It would last apartment got a drive over there 222 00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:55,430 I 223 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:57,330 Think the fire department take it out with the first pass 224 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:05,250 So long as they can get over it, right, but you know, maybe there's an opportunity for an aesthetic treatment with with brick inlay 225 00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:10,710 or something like that. I don't know, but one of the things that we do is we work with the 226 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:16,790 requesters once we identified which request are funded and help them guide us through the 227 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:23,430 design process and some ideas for aesthetic treatment. And that also may be if landscaping is an 228 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:28,090 opportunity, that's where we would look for partnering to say, okay, if we landscape it will 229 00:19:28,090 --> 00:19:35,330 you maintain it. That's where Chief McGregor said just make sure they're red, right? As long as the 230 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:42,370 All right, and Gary, they used, they, I've been in some streets in Austin where that small roundabout thing is used 231 00:19:42,970 --> 00:19:49,650 Did you design those and you know depends on where you were there were some not my favorite examples in Austin, okay 232 00:19:49,650 --> 00:19:54,110 Well, anyway, they seem to work well, so some did work better than others. I will agree 233 00:19:56,790 --> 00:20:01,870 Here's another example. This is broadmore drive from trophy down to 234 00:20:01,870 --> 00:20:10,010 a braver drive, and obviously a very, very busy street because it is a designated minor 235 00:20:10,010 --> 00:20:10,670 collector. 236 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,260 So, I mean, it's carrying the traffic, the challenge is that's really fast with them 237 00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:20,680 we want in that neighborhood. 238 00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:25,320 And the other challenge is because the, I'm sorry, designated major collector because it 239 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,680 is, and this is working with fire, no vertical deflection devices. 240 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,780 So, again, no speed homes, no speed tables, no speed cushions. 241 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:39,260 the proposed solution for Broadmore is a many round about it, Janice Trail, and then two what we 242 00:20:39,260 --> 00:20:47,240 call chokers located about a 400 feet or so down. Basically imagine a park car on this side of 243 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,240 the street, a park car on this side of the street, and somebody puts a bunch of traffic cones in between 244 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,260 and the middle of the street. That really creates the impression I need to slow down to go through 245 00:20:58,260 --> 00:21:03,420 there. Many of some examples of what those might look like. These are landscape. So a 246 00:21:03,420 --> 00:21:09,440 choker is this ball bounce, which is an extension of the curve from from the edge inward and 247 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,760 the splitter island, which is an island in the center. They can be directly across from 248 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,520 each other. Or as you see in these examples, they're they're offsets that they're actually 249 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:24,060 also create kind of a chicane effect. And so that's what you're already having at trophy 250 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:33,680 in Broadmoor? Is it the same kind of setup? Broadmoor, trophy, or ball-outs? Yes, sir, so that's what you recommend. So, you recommend that for the rest of Broadmoor. 251 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:42,900 Yeah, not everywhere, but yes, that is the concept. If we can create the opportunity for landscaping as opposed to simply brick favors, we would like to explore that. 252 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,080 Isn't that a little different, though, because it's got a stop sign there, and these would work without a stop sign? Yes, sir, they would work without a stop sign. 253 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:54,450 There's another example of what litter islands can look like. 254 00:21:54,510 --> 00:21:58,030 Again, landscape, you can add paper treatments around them. 255 00:21:58,130 --> 00:22:01,570 There's a variety of things you can do to enhance their appeal 256 00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:02,470 for the community. 257 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,740 So here is a busy slide, and I will apologize for an end for that. 258 00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:13,100 But this is our ranking for funding of the 11 requests. 259 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,060 So Rosemary Drive from Loop State to Rosemary Drive South. 260 00:22:18,060 --> 00:22:24,380 you know, that rosemary kind of loop over there just off 29 for up for it goes to two lanes. 261 00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:32,540 Our highest scoring request, a lot incredibly high speeds, incredibly high volumes, very 262 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:37,500 good evidence to support best solution there were two speed humps. Cost estimate for that 263 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:43,980 is about 12 grand. And then as you go down the list, each one of those has a cost we show 264 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:48,920 So the proposed mitigation device, our cost estimate, and then the far right column is 265 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:56,740 a cumulative estimate, so that if we say we only have $300,000, we know how far to go 266 00:22:56,740 --> 00:22:58,780 down the list and draw the line. 267 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:04,820 So that's a very effective budget management tool, and again, who goes first and how come 268 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:08,560 we have that objective information for the ranking for funding the fact? 269 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:13,940 Sorry, if you already covered this, but on five of the six, the five of the top six that 270 00:23:13,940 --> 00:23:17,980 you have, I've had people just personally talk to me about the issue and very concerned 271 00:23:17,980 --> 00:23:22,300 about it, but then they also say, but please don't put speed bumps. 272 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:31,380 So how are you getting neighborhood feedback on your own, obviously we can get that feedback 273 00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:32,020 on our own. 274 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,520 How are you getting that feedback to know kind of where people stand? 275 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:48,780 I know you started this by saying it's hard for it to get everyone in the neighborhood to agree I respect that but you know that's a good question. I'm going to see if I can go to a particular slide that is towards the end of the program. 276 00:23:49,240 --> 00:24:02,520 We I do have toward the end of the program. I have a slide that shows our evidence of support petition on one side is a map that shows these various proposed devices and where they go on the other side is. 277 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,860 You know, name, address, phone number, yes, I'm for it. 278 00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:06,620 No, I'm against it. 279 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:07,520 I'll go with the majority. 280 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,680 And the requester of record is, 281 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,180 and we define the petition area on that map as well. 282 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,620 The requester of record is required to contact 283 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,420 every property in the shaded area, 284 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 and either get a signature and a position 285 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,280 or provide us with an explanation 286 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,900 of why they could not get a signature. 287 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,880 I went by three times, three different days. 288 00:24:30,020 --> 00:24:30,760 Nobody was home. 289 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,260 I went in some of my slammed the door in my face. 290 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:35,640 They had a chain link fence with a bunch of dogs running. 291 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,920 They're that kind of thing. 292 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,400 So we're looking for good faith effort from the requester 293 00:24:40,820 --> 00:24:43,940 that they have tried to contact everyone along the street segment 294 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,900 so they're aware of what's going on. 295 00:24:46,420 --> 00:24:49,320 It's not uncommon in your honor to see people say, 296 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:52,640 I'm for it, but not front of my house. 297 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,020 And our response to that is because these are geometric 298 00:24:57,020 --> 00:25:03,680 free features installed at with engineering judgment, you know, from from 299 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,520 engineering perspective, this is our application over engineering judgments, our 300 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,480 abilities under our licensure, and unless somebody can bring us a really good 301 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,620 objective reason why it needs to be moved or it needs to be changed, it stays 302 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:24,280 where it is. A lot of people say, well if you'll just move it in front of their house, 303 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:30,020 I'm okay with it and they say no I don't want in front of my house. Move it back over there. This keeps that from happening 304 00:25:30,940 --> 00:25:36,860 And then the ranking for funding allows us to say we don't care if you we understand you may not like it 305 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:43,300 But public safety is paramount and that is why the evidence for petition while it is one 306 00:25:43,820 --> 00:25:47,140 ranking for funding factor. It is not a sole deterrent factor 307 00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:52,620 We're going to have a street with one yes and a thousand no's but the speeding and crashes 308 00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:55,480 could be so horrendous that we do something anyway. 309 00:25:57,340 --> 00:26:06,360 I'd like comment mayor that people in this community have seen speed bumps not on city 310 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:13,060 streets necessarily but in parking lots and there is a big difference between a speed bump 311 00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:14,160 and a speed hump. 312 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:19,320 I've been in other communities that utilize the speed humps 313 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,380 and you can drive across them possibly 20 miles an hour 314 00:26:23,380 --> 00:26:25,320 and just not even feel them. 315 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280 Whereas you drive across the speed bump at 20 miles an hour, 316 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:30,920 you might break something. 317 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,980 So some of this feedback you have received 318 00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:40,880 may not be valid if they experience the difference 319 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,620 between a speed bump and a speed home. 320 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:48,020 Sure. My point was just, are you already incorporating that in so that when we're evaluating this, 321 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,920 we can see what that neighborhood feedback is as a part of the process. 322 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,220 It sounds like you're saying the petition process should cover that. 323 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Obviously, we can look in and ask more neighbors how they feel about each of these spots, 324 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,660 but you're covering that. 325 00:27:02,020 --> 00:27:02,360 Yes, sir. 326 00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:06,460 Another challenge we have in this community in fairness to those people who say, 327 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:10,200 I don't want speed humps. Is there a way of the speed humps that are down and better far? 328 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:15,520 In college station very very good example of what not to do. 329 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,880 They're just not well. 330 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,580 There's two cities, one community, so I appreciate that example. I'm sure there are examples in every city. 331 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,380 What about the, excuse me, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 332 00:27:25,580 --> 00:27:28,080 What about the ones on Berk Lane that we already have? 333 00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:33,140 They are. Those are here as part of this and we'll see this later in the program. 334 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:40,200 They can be constructed to a better standard, and part of this effort would be to reconstruct them to a current state. 335 00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:43,120 But they aren't as severe as the Humps and the Barnlots. 336 00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:45,120 They're closer to what you'd like to have. 337 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:46,040 There are closer to that. 338 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Did you get a little feel for it? 339 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:49,900 So not quite there, but they're closer. 340 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:57,920 So I think in fairness to the community, we should be equitable in shape and style everywhere, because I need to be able to anticipate, 341 00:27:58,060 --> 00:28:02,780 okay, I can drive across all of them this way versus some I have to stop at. 342 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:04,400 So I can speed over. 343 00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:12,790 Here is a list of all of our ineligible requests and they are alphabetical by requested street. 344 00:28:13,870 --> 00:28:20,590 Many of them were ineligible, again, because the speed criteria wasn't met or there was construction pending. 345 00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:27,850 There were, again, those two niches laying from Autry to State Highway 21. We just didn't get a petition back. 346 00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:32,570 Wayside drive from Avondale to Esther. We just didn't get a petition back. 347 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:40,910 So, if there were someone along that street who sees this or sees media coverage in the 348 00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:46,190 next few days, a couple of weeks, whatever, and they say, I want to step up and take 349 00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:50,510 over as a requester and get this done, we couldn't be more thrilled if that would have. 350 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:56,160 So, if you know somebody, please. 351 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,300 So, here's our recommendations. 352 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,780 We want to continue to the LATM program. 353 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,420 We find that one request round per year is sufficient. 354 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:12,860 We can hear the program up to do two a year, but it does train our existing resources, and we're going to do that. 355 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:22,060 Speaking with the city engineer who's spoken with our public works director, we are recommending funding all 11 eligible requests. 356 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:31,860 Total for that is about $470,000 from the transportation fund. We begin with conduct a kickoff meeting with all of those 357 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:39,520 requesters and begin the preliminary design. Then we're looking to those could be constructed 358 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:45,100 depending on getting an on-call contractor into complexity perhaps by the end of this year. 359 00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:51,240 We think we could move relatively quickly. Speedhumps can happen very quickly. The slower 360 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:58,140 ones would be the many about this. And then we have this time six requests that came in 361 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:59,620 and after the pilot was over. 362 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:06,640 And we would start them in a new restaurant. We begin processing them as well. We also want 363 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,160 it, we mentioned speed humps along Barric Lane. We would reconstruct both of those, and 364 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,860 we would reconstruct the speedtail of that raised crosswalk along Oak Ridge Drive, which 365 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,720 behind the high stage. So all of those would represent current state of the practice. 366 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,920 With that, 367 00:30:26,550 --> 00:30:30,370 let me do go, your honor, because you did ask about it. 368 00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:41,490 This is what our evidence is for petition and speeding mitigation plans look like. 369 00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:48,290 So on the front we provide all of the speed information, there's a variety of tech of 370 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:54,210 disclaimers, techs, et cetera, so that as people look at this, as they go from door to door 371 00:30:54,210 --> 00:30:58,230 or the evidence, the petition is on one side, 372 00:30:58,370 --> 00:31:00,330 you have to flip it over to see the plan 373 00:31:00,890 --> 00:31:01,750 and vice versa. 374 00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:03,910 We will not take one side of documents 375 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:06,210 as we want to, as best we can, 376 00:31:06,410 --> 00:31:08,550 ensure that people have looked at the plan 377 00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:11,270 and are making an informed decision 378 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:14,270 when they sign on the other side. 379 00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:17,700 That's what these look like. 380 00:31:17,860 --> 00:31:19,320 And that's what every request, 381 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,420 I wanna give a shout out. 382 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,340 I don't know, we have some more questions 383 00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:24,940 of record here in the audience. 384 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:27,940 I want to give a shout out to them all together. 385 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,000 They petitioned close to 500 homes, 500 properties in this. 386 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:37,820 One request had, I think, maybe 15 properties. 387 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,660 Another request had over 100. 388 00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:44,060 And they were out in June, July and August getting this done. 389 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:48,980 And there was one lady who heard of a request on another street 390 00:31:48,980 --> 00:31:51,400 that was kind of foundering just really couldn't get help. 391 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,300 She lived several bucks away. 392 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:54,980 She said, I'll come and help, and she did. 393 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,280 So there is a tremendous interest from my perspective 394 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,720 that the community does care about safety, 395 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:03,460 and they're willing to help each other to get it done. 396 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,020 So please folks are awesome. 397 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:07,020 I just want to give them a shout out for that, please. 398 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,100 Pro-10, Donna. 399 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Yes, I got to hear a version of this program a few weeks back 400 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,340 at the MPO meeting. 401 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,860 And I want to thank you for the presentation. 402 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,390 And I think it's one of the different ideas 403 00:32:26,390 --> 00:32:29,510 as you'll have regarding feeding and traffic management. 404 00:32:30,650 --> 00:32:32,130 I've been thinking about that a lot. 405 00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:34,610 It's a route around towns where we need some 406 00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:36,030 of these devices installed. 407 00:32:37,010 --> 00:32:38,230 Thank you again, great presentation. 408 00:32:39,410 --> 00:32:40,010 Thank you, sir. 409 00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:40,770 Thank you. 410 00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:41,870 In the comments? 411 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:42,890 Thank you very much. 412 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:44,010 I appreciate the list. 413 00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:46,510 I'm pointed to give a shout out to one more person. 414 00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:48,270 We sit in the back row and she's going to hate you. 415 00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:52,050 But Linda Lyndon makes her a crazy hand back there in the back. 416 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:54,310 She was really helpful for us and the public 417 00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:12,170 So the funding is there, we don't need to do anything else. 418 00:33:12,970 --> 00:33:17,230 It is going to be shown in the forecast for the transportation fee. 419 00:33:17,230 --> 00:33:22,050 Next budget cycle, see if there we've already looked at that created allocation for it. 420 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,160 Good. 421 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,060 So yeah, there will be, at some point depending on whether we do those, you know, in-house 422 00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:35,040 change orders, various things, bits and pieces of this come, or you may see one contract 423 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:41,300 saying this is going to do all of these for your approval that may come long, or, yes, 424 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:45,390 defend those lines. 425 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,660 But right now you've already got it set aside for these projects, the dollars, wherever 426 00:33:53,660 --> 00:33:54,260 they come from. 427 00:33:54,260 --> 00:33:55,580 That's it. Okay. Thanks. 428 00:33:57,650 --> 00:34:01,630 Okay. Next item on the agenda. Yes. Oh, sorry, Venice. 429 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:07,530 Maybe I missed it while I was writing. So 430 00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:13,650 then what was the process of how did how did we go about choosing the neighborhood streets? 431 00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:21,970 The LHM is a request driven program. Anyone who lives or works along a street segment may submit 432 00:34:21,970 --> 00:34:29,070 I request okay whether you grant our own we're indifferent to that but the requirement is you do 433 00:34:30,130 --> 00:34:35,970 live or work along that street that your your residence your residence may be you know front 434 00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:41,150 facing you're on the street it could be side abutting so it's a street drawn on the corner on the 435 00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:46,830 side street you can be back abutting your house backs up the street you touch that street you can 436 00:34:46,830 --> 00:34:53,670 here in eligible requesters. Okay, so it comes from the neighbors, people who live on the street with 437 00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:55,890 a question. Yes, when we started the program. 438 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:07,610 Okay, thank 439 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,660 you, that's what I need. 440 00:35:25,170 --> 00:35:25,510 Thank you, 441 00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:32,230 Councilman Madison, any other questions? Okay, thank you. Next item on the agenda, 442 00:35:32,430 --> 00:35:38,030 presentation by staff regarding policies and procedures for housing revitalization 443 00:35:38,030 --> 00:35:43,370 and fill program. Mayor and staff Alcy Bond with our community development department will present 444 00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:43,870 this item. 445 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,980 Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. It's really good to see you this afternoon. 446 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:00,760 Today we want to thank you for your support of the housing and fill revitalization program funded 447 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:07,120 by Council last year and this year's budget. We also want to provide information on the program for 448 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,980 new council members provide a history of the expanded housing program and give everyone 449 00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:16,580 an update regarding the housing and bill policies and procedures. 450 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:23,240 We did provide you a handout that is the full draft policies and procedures which should 451 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:29,520 be by your chair, but today we're just going to present a summary of those policies and procedures. 452 00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:35,580 So, first, I want to give a quick view 453 00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:43,540 of the outcome of the General Home Investment 454 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,260 and to the West 18th Street and Sims Project, which was a project done by Community Development 455 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:56,640 a couple of years ago utilizing grant funds for the acquisition of the property and then 456 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:05,340 And we were utilizing general fund as a loan for us to bid out the project, which we 457 00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:06,580 did bid out the project. 458 00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:13,840 R&L builders was the low competitive builder and some of the previous council members remember 459 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200 this project that we brought forward to you all. 460 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:24,360 Four of the homes were built, there were five bids that were presented to us and the low 461 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:34,740 competitive bid was $397,000. Of the forehomes, three of the homeowners received down payment 462 00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:40,840 assistance through our federal program and then one was above the income rate. 463 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:48,860 I think the project was a huge success and it really does make a big difference. If you 464 00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:55,340 go into that area in that neighborhood, there's a lot of neighborhood pride. As I mentioned last 465 00:37:55,340 --> 00:37:59,300 last year when I presented to Council, there was a lot of feedback to us about what was 466 00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:06,020 going on in the neighborhood and some, it does spur development and we've seen that as 467 00:38:06,020 --> 00:38:08,740 a catalyst for future projects in the area. 468 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:27,080 Currently in Bryan, there are 75 unsold new homes, ranging in price from $191,639,000 with 469 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:35,340 which way is way above and beyond the affordable housing market, target market that we're looking at. 470 00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:41,120 Now how many homes you said were available in homes? 471 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:41,840 75. 472 00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:42,300 75. 473 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,900 So this is the acquisition cause through community development, block grant and the general fund investment. 474 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:53,660 The house is sold anywhere from 115,000 up to 120. 475 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,220 There were sales proceeds that went back into our program. 476 00:38:57,220 --> 00:39:04,180 And then we approach council about the housing and fill revitalization program, talking 477 00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:10,080 about the need for affordable housing, primarily in our older neighborhoods for Lauren-Muttered 478 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,060 income individual. 479 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,720 Over the course of the last several years, community development along with the housing and 480 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:26,420 fill committee has met with a lot of developers in our area, contractors looking at why they're 481 00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:29,720 not building in our older neighborhoods and what were some of the issues. 482 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,780 Some of the issues that they presented to us was unclear titles, actually a viable 483 00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:42,420 market for their product, they can get people qualified to buy their homes, there might 484 00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:43,480 be boundary disputes. 485 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,540 Well, this is what we do on a daily basis with the clients that we work with. 486 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,260 So we're looking to be out in front, taking care of those issues in order for us to bid out 487 00:39:54,260 --> 00:40:01,140 the project to make this program work. This is our income limits for our federal program, 488 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:07,980 which is at 80% at or below the median income for our area. So you can see for a family 489 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:16,200 of four, that's around 47,100. Now that's our program, which was the program that the four 490 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:23,340 houses were built. Let me show you a little difference here. The program that we're 491 00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:34,880 proposing today goes up to 125%, so as you can see for a family of four, that would go up to 73,625,000. 492 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,640 This is going to help tremendously if we move forward with this program. 493 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,880 For us, it's been very difficult because you may get a family that's at 81%. 494 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:54,720 As a, we can't provide them down payment assistance or work with them because they're over our income limit. 495 00:40:55,380 --> 00:41:02,860 So, this gives us a little more flexibility working within the new housing development expanded program. 496 00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:09,200 Anywhere from 80% of the median income to 125%. 497 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:15,060 And I'm going to provide you a little more information specifically about the program in just a moment. 498 00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:24,280 But as far as going up over the 125%, that would only be done upon the city manager's approval at 499 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,900 a little ahead of us. 500 00:41:34,810 --> 00:41:45,450 Okay, so we are proposing that our initial program under this policy would be West 28th Street. 501 00:41:45,650 --> 00:41:51,270 We presented this information last year when we did a presentation. 502 00:41:51,270 --> 00:42:12,630 that's a triangle area there that the city owns that property due to a extension on West 28th of the street and we're proposing and are currently working on a bid package for three houses in that particular area where, you know, Wallace is on the bottom there and Graham is on the top. 503 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:19,670 So we want to just start out and the program is designed to build no more than three to 504 00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:21,070 five houses at a time. 505 00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:27,110 We don't want to saturate the market number one and not be able to qualify individuals 506 00:42:27,570 --> 00:42:30,310 for our target market. 507 00:42:30,930 --> 00:42:34,530 It's a very successful program with what we have been doing. 508 00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:40,130 We think it will be even more successful with the increased income limit but it is hard 509 00:42:40,130 --> 00:42:41,150 to qualify our client. 510 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:46,650 It does take us a long time, there's a lot of hand holding, we have to make sure that 511 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:52,010 the people that are going to purchase the homes are able to get a mortgage are able 512 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:59,350 to repay that mortgage and so we follow very stringent income, qualifying guidelines 513 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:07,290 that were set up in our regular programs which is 33% on the front end ratio and 43% on the 514 00:43:07,290 --> 00:43:15,490 that meaning that the principal interest title and insurance along with any consumer debt 515 00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:20,710 it would be no more than 43% of their monthly gross income. 516 00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:23,710 So we've been doing this for a long time. 517 00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:31,990 We think that the success of the program is built upon the success that we've already had 518 00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:39,230 But in the future, it will only continue to grow if we have that opportunity to expand the 519 00:43:39,230 --> 00:43:39,670 income. 520 00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:46,410 So now I want to talk a little bit about the program and the policy and procedures. 521 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:52,830 As I mentioned, you do have a handout that has the full policy and procedure that looks pretty 522 00:43:52,830 --> 00:43:53,330 detailed. 523 00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:59,110 We wanted to cover all of our bases and make sure that we're doing the right thing by having 524 00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:05,570 a public purpose, number one, which is to promote revitalization and create economic development 525 00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:10,770 opportunities in our older neighborhoods, primarily low- and moderate income neighborhoods 526 00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:18,610 through the development of infield housing, affordable housing for owner occupancy. 527 00:44:19,230 --> 00:44:24,750 So the main goals of the program, obviously, we want to continue creating opportunities 528 00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:30,350 communities for people in brine to be home owners, and that's very important to us. 529 00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:36,690 We work with residents who live in brine who are already living in the older neighborhoods 530 00:44:36,690 --> 00:44:42,430 who might want to have that opportunity to purchase a home that's not able to do that 531 00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:42,910 right now. 532 00:44:43,450 --> 00:44:50,490 So we also want to create opportunities for economic development, new construction, and then 533 00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:53,790 and other ways to leverage resources in that area. 534 00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:58,050 As I mentioned earlier, we've seen when we do smaller projects 535 00:44:58,050 --> 00:44:59,610 through community development. 536 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:17,320 That it does create neighborhood pride and brings people to that point of wanting to work more in their neighborhood as well as living there. And so, and also to create an opportunity to bring money back into the program is the proceeds of the sales. 537 00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:32,040 So annually, community development does housing needs assessments anyway. So we're going to look at this on an annual basis and look at those older neighborhoods and 538 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,840 say, you know, what is it do we need? Where's the property available? And as budget allows, 539 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,120 we'll move forward with a bid packet. But part of that, if there's acquisition involved, 540 00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:49,280 we want to hold a public hearing to talk about the use of the real property. That way that gives 541 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:56,080 people in the neighborhood an idea about what's going to come and to provide any public comment 542 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,340 that back and also kind of simulate some interest. 543 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,820 We do that in the past, we have through our public meetings 544 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:05,740 with community development advisory committee. 545 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:09,900 We have generated a lot of interest in what we're doing 546 00:46:10,370 --> 00:46:11,680 in some of our neighborhoods. 547 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,020 And so we think that's important to engage the public. 548 00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:19,280 So we could use available city property, 549 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,580 which we want to do on this first project. 550 00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:29,080 There's a lot of times where there will be infrastructure needs in certain areas. 551 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:35,180 Public works is very good about assisting us with sidewalks or carbon gutter, that sort 552 00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:35,600 of thing. 553 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:47,640 And when the bid packages bid out, it will be subject to any city or state or federal requirements 554 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,540 as applicable, as a competitive bid project. 555 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,200 So for the project, the housing construction, the overall management of the project will 556 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,440 be done by community development staff currently, Eric Gordon, and youth services staff of the 557 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,880 B. These are 558 00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:19,020 some of the marketing efforts that we did with the West 18th Street and SEMS 559 00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:24,000 project and we think that there are available ways to market. 560 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,480 So first we're going to assess the needs in the area, then we're going to look at the 561 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:29,960 bid packet. 562 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:36,800 All along we're going to start that marketing way ahead because as I mentioned earlier, 563 00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:43,320 a lot of times it takes our targeted population a while to get their mortgage and so we want 564 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:50,660 to start even before we send out the big package, public public sizing, what we're doing, 565 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,200 letting the neighborhood know what we're doing, and then when the actual houses get on 566 00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,220 the ground, we're going to have open houses that sort of thing, anything else that we could 567 00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:09,880 do to market that property, but I will tell you that right now, as I mentioned in a prior 568 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:16,200 presentation. We have we have people that are qualified now that could move into 569 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,220 homes if we have a home. That's a move in target. You know, things change when 570 00:48:21,220 --> 00:48:27,380 people go and get their their mortgage when when they go and apply for a 571 00:48:27,380 --> 00:48:31,520 mortgage. So that that we're always working with people to make sure that 572 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,360 they're not doing things that would cause an issue there but we're 573 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:41,700 constantly marketing what we have going on and trying to get people that are living in 574 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:43,940 our neighborhood in Dubien, Oklahoma. 575 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:50,690 So as I mentioned earlier, we're going to try 576 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:56,330 to pre-qualify potential buyers. This is in the policies and procedures. If they are 577 00:48:56,330 --> 00:49:05,810 above the 80% or below the media income, which is our normal income range, if they're up between 578 00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:14,870 between 80% and 125% upon the city manager's approval, and when it's presented to you, there 579 00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:20,650 are some options if they did not qualify for home mortgage. 580 00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:27,810 So one of the options within the policy is a deferred equity loan, which basically 581 00:49:27,810 --> 00:49:35,750 just means a deferred equity loan upon the approval of city council would be given to 582 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:44,410 a family for that gap. Let's say the house was 160, you only qualified for 150. That's 583 00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:50,630 an option only or the general fund could provide down payment assistance. We can't assist 584 00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:56,630 those over 80%, but upon the approval of and the direction of the city manager and your 585 00:49:56,630 --> 00:50:04,970 approval, that is an option. As we stated here, all sales contracts are subject to approval 586 00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:07,790 of City Council and must be signed by the committee. 587 00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:18,860 So what happens if we build the houses and for some unforeseen reason, one of them 588 00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:19,460 doesn't sell? 589 00:50:20,420 --> 00:50:28,140 Or we're going to go up to 180 days and after that particular time it is an option to 590 00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:33,840 offer the sale to other potential purchasers which could include investors. 591 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:41,800 And what we would like to do is put a land-use restriction on the agreement, so if we sail, 592 00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:46,900 they can't sail the home unless they're selling to low and moderate income individuals. 593 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:51,160 It's only an option, as I said earlier, we want to cover all of our bases. 594 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:58,820 We don't want houses in our community, sitting, not sold, that's why we're starting small. 595 00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:05,280 We don't think this is going to happen, but we definitely want to have a plan in place in case something does happen. 596 00:51:11,450 --> 00:51:18,430 I think that hopefully I've given you a good summary of our housing infill policy and procedures. 597 00:51:18,430 --> 00:51:24,470 There's a lot more detail in the handout that I provided to you and upon your direction. 598 00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:29,270 We would like to come back in a future council meeting and present it in action. 599 00:51:30,590 --> 00:51:31,390 Do I have any questions? 600 00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:42,190 Thank you mayor we first offered the houses on 18th Street seemed like it took a little 601 00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:50,170 while and once they started selling they sort of like dominoes they sold but was the 602 00:51:50,170 --> 00:51:57,150 only qualification issue that we had not like qualifying for a loan but the city had was 603 00:51:57,150 --> 00:52:04,970 Was the issue, the income amount, because what was at the main issue is the why people 604 00:52:04,970 --> 00:52:05,550 didn't qualify? 605 00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:13,250 I think the main issue for our federal program is the fact that we're at the 80 percent 606 00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:24,250 or below, which is, it limits us somewhat, and some people it takes them a while to get 607 00:52:24,250 --> 00:52:32,790 their bank approval, because their income is lower, and because they maybe have no credit, 608 00:52:33,390 --> 00:52:38,950 or maybe they have a credit issue, there's a lot of different reasons for that. 609 00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:43,490 I think this program will help us a lot because it will expand it a little bit. 610 00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:52,390 But to me, when people come into our office, and they're at 85 to 90, and we can't help 611 00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:58,410 them. So we did turn away a lot of people that we could not help. Now one of those houses 612 00:52:58,410 --> 00:53:06,770 did sell and the person the family was at 82%, but I will say it does take us a while 613 00:53:06,770 --> 00:53:12,530 to sell. It does. I would be not honest if I didn't take that. 614 00:53:12,530 --> 00:53:18,350 But we were kind of casting a bigger net. Yes, yes, we are. 615 00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:24,350 How long would you say it takes to I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, thank you mayor 616 00:53:25,150 --> 00:53:31,650 I'm just trying to summarize what you just told us and so the demand for these houses is not a problem 617 00:53:31,650 --> 00:53:36,330 You got plenty people and it's not the area where they're built. It's the people want to buy these houses 618 00:53:36,330 --> 00:53:42,350 Yes, so the problem is that they don't qualify in one way or another because of income or 619 00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:47,770 Credit or that kind of thing. That's right. Okay, so and we restricted 620 00:53:48,350 --> 00:53:51,330 to the 82% because it's federal money that's primarily 621 00:53:51,330 --> 00:53:52,110 building the houses. 622 00:53:53,850 --> 00:53:57,410 Our program that we built the 18th Street and Sim Street, 623 00:53:57,630 --> 00:54:00,790 yes, that was restricted to 80 and below because, yes, 624 00:54:00,930 --> 00:54:01,190 we did. 625 00:54:01,490 --> 00:54:04,510 Okay, so you're expanding that so that didn't, 626 00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:05,910 the federal money didn't have anything to do with that. 627 00:54:06,770 --> 00:54:08,710 The federal money doesn't have anything to do with it. 628 00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:13,350 Okay, so then, so if we get to the point where you can't 629 00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:16,010 get anybody qualified with the current restrictions, 630 00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:19,570 what's wrong with just opening it up for sale to anybody? 631 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:22,890 And we can and that's a provision in the policy. 632 00:54:23,230 --> 00:54:27,330 Okay, so you could just open it up like a real estate agent and sell the house to anybody. 633 00:54:27,770 --> 00:54:35,510 So how would that, that wouldn't affect somebody that needs the house or the area, the community, or the subdivision would? 634 00:54:35,570 --> 00:54:45,470 Upon the policy is written to give us the flexibility to do that, but it's on the direction of the city manager and approval of council. 635 00:54:45,470 --> 00:54:54,270 So the sale of the house is really not an impence by anything because when you get the one roadblocking go another way, so you can populate that area, okay? 636 00:54:54,670 --> 00:55:03,930 And I will say also to support one of the areas that you just address, the city also runs the bank on Brazil's Valley program. 637 00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:10,190 And we work with a lot of our families who are banks to establish better credit. 638 00:55:10,190 --> 00:55:16,650 we've been doing that for several years now and we really have put an emphasis on that with our 639 00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:23,250 partnership with United Way to really look at the route at the issue why people are not getting 640 00:55:23,250 --> 00:55:30,610 qualified for homes and to help them establish their credit and to help them just establish good 641 00:55:30,610 --> 00:55:37,390 financial home management so it's kind of a whole ball of whack. So this is more than just a 642 00:55:37,390 --> 00:55:42,470 this is trying to get people's lives back on track financially in many ways. 643 00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:43,330 Thank you. 644 00:55:43,610 --> 00:55:44,290 That's Buffy. 645 00:55:45,010 --> 00:55:45,490 Thank you. 646 00:55:47,390 --> 00:55:48,690 I just had a question. 647 00:55:48,850 --> 00:55:55,110 How long from the time that the house has finished is the average of to sell these homes? 648 00:55:55,550 --> 00:55:56,230 How long has it taken? 649 00:55:56,410 --> 00:55:59,610 The market right now is 75 to 80 days. 650 00:56:00,630 --> 00:56:02,590 Probably to take us a little bit longer. 651 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:08,050 three, four months could be longer. 652 00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:18,510 We do have people who are qualified now, but when the HUMs get built there may not be 653 00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:23,610 at that particular time, but we hope to offset that by pre-marketing. 654 00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:24,410 Right. 655 00:56:24,750 --> 00:56:30,730 We want to put it all out effort, but it is difficult, and we don't want the houses to sit 656 00:56:30,730 --> 00:56:30,910 there. 657 00:56:30,910 --> 00:56:35,590 So, so basically one thing we could do is pre-sell the house before we build it. 658 00:56:35,710 --> 00:56:36,030 Yes, sir. 659 00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:38,910 Councilor Madison. 660 00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,800 The deal is what I'll say now I'm going to dig in and I'll tell you fellas, they do 661 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,460 a great job. 662 00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:56,460 A question is, what you're saying is if we're able to build these homes, we first go out 663 00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:02,060 with the 80 that meet the 80%, if we're not able to meet the 80%, then we increase it 664 00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:03,400 to the 125%? 665 00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:08,160 Well, currently the program is up to 125%. 666 00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:15,960 Most of our clients that come to talk with us 667 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,400 about buying a home are around that 80%. 668 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,460 And it's going to be the uppers 70 to 80% 669 00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:24,460 that are going to qualify. 670 00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:27,280 If you get much lower than that, they're probably 671 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,160 not going to qualify for a mortgage. 672 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:39,460 but this program goes up to 125% our community development program is 80% okay 673 00:57:40,180 --> 00:57:46,920 next question now if we if we do open it up to real estate or to the public 674 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,060 don't we run the risk of it being rental property instead of being a home 675 00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:54,320 monos deal. 676 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:03,860 Hopefully that will not happen. I think there is we have put in place all sorts 677 00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:10,780 of contingencies for that. But when you get to the point of that, if you have not sold 678 00:58:10,780 --> 00:58:15,480 the home and you've exhausted all efforts and you sell to an investor, there'll be a land 679 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:21,340 use restriction agreement upon that property. They cannot sell that property without it being 680 00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:22,660 and a low and moderate income person. 681 00:58:28,070 --> 00:58:29,310 Councilman Marie, pardon me? 682 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:29,790 Questions? 683 00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:35,960 Councilman Marie. 684 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,100 Mike on, there you go. 685 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,500 Quick question, for citizens who have a, 686 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,860 don't we have some type of program 687 00:58:43,860 --> 00:58:46,260 if someone has a substandard home 688 00:58:46,260 --> 00:58:48,900 where we would offer low financing 689 00:58:49,350 --> 00:58:50,500 to build them a new home 690 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,900 and they can use their property as equity for that home? 691 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,880 Do we have a current program in place? 692 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,600 Is that something we could kind of combine 693 00:58:59,540 --> 00:59:08,880 We already have that program just to give you a quick overview of what a community development offers through our federal program. 694 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:28,480 We provide demolition and reconstruction at 0% interest, so there is a program already in place for that along with minor repair, which is a grant program for health and safety issues for people at that 80% 695 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,680 or below. 696 00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:31,360 Okay. 697 00:59:31,740 --> 00:59:32,140 That's what I thought. 698 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,960 I just wanted to double check. 699 00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:33,340 Thank you. 700 00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:41,230 Thank you very much for listening to me. 701 00:59:41,470 --> 00:59:42,650 Yeah, just one other question. 702 00:59:42,910 --> 00:59:48,430 What percentage of the ones that we've done historically are being demolished and rebuilt 703 00:59:48,430 --> 00:59:50,910 new versus on undeveloped property? 704 00:59:52,670 --> 00:59:59,910 We have not demolished any homes in our housing development program for community development. 705 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,720 Development. The program that I was referring to are reconstruct. They're all demolition, reconstruct, and we do annually about four to five of those, three to five of those a year. But that's owner occupied already. And then we rebuild for the home owner. This program, we have only, we've done a subdivision in Kessel Heights. We are seven homes were built. 706 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:35,060 in partnership with Habitat, but it was vacant land. 707 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,500 So we've never demolished any particular structures 708 01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:42,640 on land that we were going to develop, 709 01:00:42,980 --> 01:00:44,960 but this program does offer that option. 710 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,780 Actually, I'm just looking at the numbers thinking, 711 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:49,640 you know, you do about five a year, 712 01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:53,360 over five years if you're demolishing versus not, 713 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,240 you had a hundred houses in the land, 714 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,960 you'd get five percent more, you know, 715 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:04,240 If we're trying to get people with higher income to go into those neighborhoods they can buy the undeveloped land and 716 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:11,260 Build a nicer home and we could get a higher percentage of them done if we were doing more demolish that it's not numbers game, right? 717 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:17,700 So but they have to is it that they have to be vacant for a period of to three or four months before they would qualify? 718 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,800 No, no, it's owner occupied. They're in the home. It's a volunteer program. They relocate 719 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,760 Because it's a volunteer program. They voluntarily relocate 720 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,600 And then we demolish and read. 721 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,760 Yeah, I'm sorry I meant for the housing and fill neighborhood on the infill, you could 722 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,960 still demolish it but it need to be vacant right for three to four months or something 723 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,780 like that. 724 01:01:39,860 --> 01:01:40,220 All right. 725 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,240 I would think it would need to be vacant, that's a legal question. 726 01:01:45,740 --> 01:01:45,840 Okay. 727 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,280 There may not be as many a qualify because it would, it's a different qualification there from 728 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:52,540 the vacant. 729 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:52,940 Okay. 730 01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:53,920 Any questions? 731 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,180 Okay. 732 01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:55,580 Thank you. 733 01:01:55,580 --> 01:02:04,280 Thank you. Thank you very much for your presentation. Next item on the agenda is presentation by staff providing an overview of the City of Brian radio system. 734 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:10,880 Our director of information technology. Wait, no, I'll change your title, didn't I? 735 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:18,780 I've been demoted. See if I've got it wrong again. Bernie Aker is here to give this presentation. 736 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:25,660 Whatever he is, Mayor Council thank you for the time to present this to you. 737 01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:30,420 This is a second year, phase two, second year of a two year project. 738 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,760 We started the project, well let me start here. 739 01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:43,120 This is the city radio timeline, basically your take away from this is our existing technology 740 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,700 that we're using at the city is now approximately 15 years old. 741 01:02:46,700 --> 01:03:02,200 That's not too old from a radio perspective, but it is reaching its end of life in 2018 and we are having an increasingly more difficult time getting components to support this radio system. 742 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:18,280 And if you also look there in 2009, we moved the public safety system off of this radio system and moved it to BVWACs, which we're a member of and Councilman Sutherland is, it's on the board of that entity. 743 01:03:19,340 --> 01:03:22,940 And public safety is operated on the BVWACs system. 744 01:03:22,940 --> 01:03:44,420 and successfully. Our goal in 2018 is to decommission that old 800 megahertz system, which will be a day of celebration for us, and I'm not sure if Jason will be happy about that, but he's loved that system. It's worked very well for them over the years, but that's the plan right now. 745 01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:47,240 Now, that's, this is phase two. 746 01:03:48,020 --> 01:03:50,180 Phase one, we started over at B.T.U. 747 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,880 We have been able to purchase this Moto Turbo system at a significantly lower price as 748 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,460 I presented last year than it would have cost us to incorporate all of our radio system 749 01:04:02,460 --> 01:04:03,800 onto the B.V.W.A.C. system. 750 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,040 A little bit of history here for you. 751 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:17,380 In 1991, Mike here worked for Texas Communications and installed the radio system over at B.T.U. 752 01:04:18,420 --> 01:04:20,820 And now he's a part of the decommissioning of it. 753 01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:23,220 What is that? 25, 26 years later. 754 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,940 So he's pretty old. 755 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,200 The system we're putting into place is no longer analog. 756 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,920 It's a digital based system. 757 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:54,680 There's millions of these systems deployed around the world, and just to give you something to relate to in that last bullet, you know entities such as TNPA, Lake Jackson Public Works, LaPort, Porta, Houston, Galveston, Ferry Landing, a lot of folks that we can relate to are already using this system. 758 01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:03,000 System basically, the main reason we wanted to go to this particular system is the safety aspect. 759 01:05:03,460 --> 01:05:08,440 It has manned down feature, it has the loan worker feature, also it has emergency button operations, 760 01:05:09,260 --> 01:05:12,060 and it improves our radio coverage. 761 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:16,200 Plus it has a GPS location, so we know exactly where someone's at. 762 01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:18,580 Bernie, what's the manned down feature? 763 01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:24,300 There's a, if a person is out on working line, working line, 764 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:33,360 There's an emergency button that just it automatically notifies us if if they don't respond 765 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,440 Give you an idea of where we put our towers little red dots there if you can see them on your screen are 766 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,380 The location of our towers and to give you a better understanding of the coverage 767 01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:55,740 There it is there our weakest area if you want to call it that is out towards called well 768 01:05:56,380 --> 01:06:04,680 In the future, we'd like to get a tower, some place out there along 21, perhaps future sub-station would be ideal. 769 01:06:07,620 --> 01:06:12,260 This is what we plan on purchasing for the City of Bryan Public Works. It's a Public Works project. 770 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,100 There are some other entities outside of Public Works that do use the radio system. 771 01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:23,400 This is how we've broken down the costs thus far, FY16. 772 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,380 The total project was around $700,000. 773 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,740 We came up with a formula of a 75, 25 split 774 01:06:29,740 --> 01:06:31,800 and that's based on radio accounts and usage. 775 01:06:33,020 --> 01:06:36,220 It basically is the lifeline for BTU. 776 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,020 So BTU paid the line share of the project in 16 777 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:45,940 and public works paid $65,000 already towards that. 778 01:06:46,340 --> 01:06:47,740 And then you can see the annual cost 779 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,900 and the next segment there. 780 01:06:50,600 --> 01:07:19,620 Basically what we're asking for here is to purchase radios for the system for public works and you'll see that on item 7e we are purchasing these hope let me say this we are hoping to purchase these radios off of a Texas A&M contract that is already in place with Texas communications so we're hoping that you also prove item 7a tonight or we'll be pulling 7e because the 7a is the ILA with Texas A&M. 781 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:23,800 And I wanted to do that fast. 782 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,020 Any questions? 783 01:07:29,070 --> 01:07:29,830 Councilman Stoller. 784 01:07:30,550 --> 01:07:30,950 Thank you, Mayor. 785 01:07:31,170 --> 01:07:32,950 I just want to say a couple of things. 786 01:07:33,790 --> 01:07:37,210 Number one, Bernie and Mike do a wonderful job force. 787 01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:40,290 What they do is kind of like the Super Bowl 788 01:07:40,290 --> 01:07:42,290 with all those cameras running at one time 789 01:07:42,290 --> 01:07:45,350 and everybody talking on the radios and the sidelines 790 01:07:45,350 --> 01:07:45,850 and all the stuff. 791 01:07:45,950 --> 01:07:50,370 It's a very complicated system that they pursue and monitor 792 01:07:50,370 --> 01:07:52,330 and make sure it works for us all the time. 793 01:07:52,330 --> 01:07:57,510 And the other thing that's kind of thrown in here on top of them is that the BVWACs deal that's our 794 01:07:58,530 --> 01:08:01,910 Safety communication system and that has to be integrated with everything else we do 795 01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:05,510 So I want to thank you all very much. I've been doing with this for about three or four years with you all 796 01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:07,890 And I appreciate it very much. Thank you. Thank you, sir 797 01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:11,820 I appreciate your leadership on there and you're the comment 798 01:08:12,660 --> 01:08:13,020 Okay 799 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:21,120 Thank you next item on the agenda is presentation by staff regarding annexation planning and possible options for annexation and Northwest 800 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,580 West, Brasis County, key. 801 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,440 Mayor and council, this presentation will be by Martin Zimmerman, our planner. 802 01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:30,520 Good afternoon, Mayor and council. 803 01:08:31,580 --> 01:08:36,000 We hear today because during your workshop meeting or your council discussion during the 804 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:42,720 August 16 meeting, you asked staff to kind of look at some options for annexation in the 805 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,100 area around the Reles campus. 806 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,420 At the time during your discussion, you'll find that there may be some benefit derived from 807 01:08:49,420 --> 01:09:05,180 I'm annexing land around the relics campus and you wanted some more information, some more specific information and I'm here today to give you that specific information, some one on annexation, I hope I'm not going to bore you to death with some of the details. 808 01:09:05,460 --> 01:09:07,720 So if I do, please raise your hand and I'll move on. 809 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:15,820 Just in general, why do cities annex these are pretty standard things that you will find. 810 01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:20,900 And there's a lot of information, the Texas Municipal League has a lot of information 811 01:09:20,900 --> 01:09:22,400 and experience on annexation. 812 01:09:23,060 --> 01:09:27,240 But these are really the six top reasons why I see these annex. 813 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,720 And you can kind of see for yourself, you know, enable regulatory controls. 814 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,060 It's one, perhaps, in your discussion that you had back in August, that was probably one 815 01:09:36,060 --> 01:09:38,640 of the things that you were maybe most interested in. 816 01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:44,980 And, you know, you see others on there protect the tax base, provide municipal services to 817 01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:51,260 a developing area in response to an uncertain legislative environment, you know, every time 818 01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:58,160 the legislature meets, there are attempts to curb city's ability to annex more property 819 01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,860 within to their city limits. 820 01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:04,600 So, you know, this may be the time to do an annexation because we don't know what's going 821 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,600 to happen with this next legislative session. 822 01:10:07,340 --> 01:10:13,340 Life safety considerations, you know, as you may or may not know, and outside the city limits, 823 01:10:13,340 --> 01:10:27,240 But there's no requirements for building permits as such, if you want to make sure that there are structures that are built in a safer manner when the city has adopted building codes that would be one of those considerations. 824 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:36,360 And in response to undesirable or unregulated land use, so you also probably know outside our city limits, there are no land use controls. 825 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:42,840 any use that we otherwise would regulate by zoning within the city could locate just 826 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:49,000 outside our city limits. In what we call the ETJ or the extraterritorial jurisdiction, 827 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:55,160 which is in our case a three and a half mile area from our city limits, which is an area 828 01:10:55,160 --> 01:11:02,500 within which the city's ability to regulate anything is very limited. We have the authority 829 01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:08,300 to regulate subdivisions and we have the ability to annex, so we're actually the only one 830 01:11:08,300 --> 01:11:15,460 sick in annex in our ETJ. Our ETJ is currently three and a half miles because we have a population 831 01:11:15,460 --> 01:11:20,940 of 83,000, but that population reached 100,000, that ETJ could grow out in five miles. 832 01:11:22,180 --> 01:11:26,460 Currently, and there was some discussion at Jim meeting in August about an agreement about 833 01:11:26,460 --> 01:11:31,720 our ETJ boundaries. The City of Bryan has a boundary agreement with the City of College 834 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:49,320 station. And I wanted to depict that here just briefly. We're actually talking to their staff right now, looking at updating that agreement that I believe is about 30 years old, essentially on the on the east side, you know, you see the Brian ETJ right there. 835 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:57,100 It's just going past William D. Fitch Parkway, which is in the city of college station is the college stations ETJ extends into Grimes County. 836 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:04,140 on the east side of town, on the west side of town, our ETJ is generally in the 837 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:10,820 north of Highway 60, and then it crosses over the Brazos River into the 838 01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:12,940 adjoining county, which just escaped me. 839 01:12:14,980 --> 01:12:19,460 Types of annexation. One of the, it's been 840 01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:23,100 about eight years, well, it's been eight years since the city of Ryan and last 841 01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:29,360 last unilaterally considered annexation, what we call unilateral or city initiated annexation. 842 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,900 At the time, there were several areas considered, but it was then decided to not proceed. 843 01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:38,600 Actually, the last city initiated annexation dates back to 1999. 844 01:12:40,060 --> 01:12:43,900 So, a lot of things have changed since then with regard to the annexation law. 845 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:49,860 But fundamentally, and again, I'm just trying to give you a brief overview here as to how this works. 846 01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:54,400 But for the most part, when you've seen annexations over the last couple of years, 847 01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:57,640 those were in response to an owner initiated request. 848 01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:03,220 A developer that wanted to do a subdivision that saw to have city services for 849 01:13:03,220 --> 01:13:06,720 that new subdivision would request and petition to city for annexation. 850 01:13:07,180 --> 01:13:09,000 And then we would go through that process. 851 01:13:10,180 --> 01:13:13,860 As far as the city initiated annexation, there's really two types. 852 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:19,700 There's the exempt annexation, which is an annexation that does not require 853 01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:24,180 what we call an annexation plan. What that is, I'm about to explain a little bit more detail, 854 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:29,560 but the key here is that you could, under an exempt annexation, you could annex as many 855 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:35,860 traits as you want it to, as possible, so long as there are no more than 99 dwelling units in 856 01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:42,560 that area that you would define to annex. Any area that has more than 99 dwelling units in it, 857 01:13:42,820 --> 01:13:48,860 under this, under the unilateral annexation, would require an annexation plan, which really 858 01:13:48,860 --> 01:13:54,480 is a three-year process. The city's a Brian current annexation plan which the state law requires 859 01:13:54,480 --> 01:14:00,100 that we have one is basically that we don't have a plan or we don't have a three-year annexation 860 01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:06,920 plan which is posted on our website as required by state law. You adopted that back in 2007. 861 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:17,340 You also back in 2007 adopted some criteria that you would want to use when considering annexations. 862 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:23,720 It kind of goes back to that first slide that I had as to why do cities annex some of 863 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,820 those criteria, but one of the criteria that I do want to point out is when you think 864 01:14:27,820 --> 01:14:32,640 about annexation, what you said back in 2007 is when we're looking at annexations, we 865 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:38,520 don't just want to draw lines through somebody's property, we want to really think about it 866 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,900 or plan it if I may use that term. 867 01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:54,800 And, you know, the annexation area should have logical boundaries, it shouldn't go to, you know, divide neighborhoods, and so I just wanted to just wanted to remind you that that is one of the criteria that you have adopted as a, as a, as a council. 868 01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,620 It's Texas local government code chapter 43. 869 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,320 Is the regulation that includes everything you ever wanted to know about annexation. Again, cities must have an annexation plan, and I don't really want to bore you with all these requirements there. The big thing here is that we as the city of Ryan have not annexed in more than three years, which based on our current size of 45 square miles would allow us to annex up to 30% of our current land area or up to 13.5 square miles. 870 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,480 at this particular point in time. 871 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:39,320 Under the exam process, again, one of these are the requirements of the local government 872 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:39,760 code. 873 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:47,280 The process, basically, that I briefly described with, you know, you would identify an area 874 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,980 that has no more than 99 dwellings in it. 875 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,940 It doesn't need an annexation plan, obviously there will be a notification to property owners. 876 01:15:55,500 --> 01:16:00,140 You go through a public hearing process of planning and zoning commission and the council. 877 01:16:00,860 --> 01:16:04,420 before you then adopt an annexation ordinance. 878 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,420 The time frame for completion of the exempt annexation 879 01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:08,740 is about four to five months. 880 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,620 A three year process is very much prescribed by the state law. 881 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,380 And I included some of the deadlines 882 01:16:18,380 --> 01:16:21,460 or the milestones in here that you have to have. 883 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,100 Basically, in order to have a three year annexation plan, 884 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,860 you have to identify areas that you want to include in that plan. 885 01:16:28,860 --> 01:16:40,780 You want to do that very carefully because once they end the plan, changing them is rather difficult and they cannot be brought back or once they're removed, they cannot be brought back for a certain period of time. 886 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:50,600 So placing areas in an annexation plan is something that should be done very carefully, just like with anything with regard to annexation, it would be notices to property owners. 887 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,660 There's a big cost factor here really, and I'm going to talk about cost in just a little 888 01:16:55,660 --> 01:16:55,860 bit. 889 01:16:57,060 --> 01:17:03,660 There has to be an inventory of services and facilities when you annex streets, existing 890 01:17:03,660 --> 01:17:08,440 streets into your city, you then become responsible for the future maintenance, for example. 891 01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:12,780 You kind of want to know what you're getting into it, so I would describe it more as a due 892 01:17:12,780 --> 01:17:15,560 diligence process as if when you're buying property. 893 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:21,240 So you have to have really an inventory of existing services and 894 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:27,780 perhaps facilities that you might annex, and you have to do that within eight months of establishing a three year annexation plan. 895 01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:45,500 You then have to hold public hearings within 11 months, and if the residents of areas that you may be looking at annexing are protesting the proposed annexation, then you have to start negotiations and perhaps enter into some sort of arbitration. 896 01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:47,920 and with those property owners. 897 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,780 There's the city of Midloatheon has a lot of experience 898 01:17:51,780 --> 01:17:52,300 with this. 899 01:17:52,620 --> 01:17:55,660 I've had the pleasure of listening to their experience 900 01:17:55,660 --> 01:17:58,520 at several seminars that I and I believe Janice 901 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,980 has attended to in Austin several times. 902 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,500 So an annexation plan for that area 903 01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:06,380 has to be finalized within 18 months 904 01:18:06,380 --> 01:18:08,860 and then within three years 905 01:18:08,860 --> 01:18:12,100 or at the between the three year anniversary 906 01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:13,380 of you establishing the plan 907 01:18:13,380 --> 01:18:18,600 and three years and 31 days you have to adopt or you have to make a decision? Yes, sir? 908 01:18:18,940 --> 01:18:25,260 Oh, that's too much. Okay, I'll move on. I'll go through some maps now. So what is 13.5 909 01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:30,180 square miles look like? Essentially here we drew a square around the Brian original town side. 910 01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:38,460 13.5 miles, it's about 3.5 miles, 3.5 miles square. You look at it from Highway 21, probably from 911 01:18:38,460 --> 01:18:40,380 about 2018 to highway six. 912 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,940 So if we're looking at the, 913 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,160 the Reles campus itself is 2000 acres. 914 01:18:46,620 --> 01:18:47,840 There was some discussion. 915 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,840 I believe at your August meeting, 916 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,080 you know, should the Reles campus be included or not? 917 01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:55,660 Well, it's, it's, it does not generate as far as I know. 918 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,920 I may be wrong to look at the finance guys, 919 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,120 but it doesn't generate any tax revenue 920 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,480 because it is owned by a public entity. 921 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,860 So just to kind of give you a, 922 01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:08,600 as some spatial idea of what 8,650 acres look like. 923 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,960 If we look in an area, for example, 924 01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:14,600 coming from the existing city limits, 925 01:19:14,860 --> 01:19:17,820 just north of Villamaria going all the way to highway 21, 926 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,020 this is an area that has about five and a half square miles. 927 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,720 We would have 155 homesteads in here, 928 01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:27,500 which then again means this could not be an area 929 01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:29,520 that could be annexed under the exempt statute. 930 01:19:29,700 --> 01:19:31,500 We're looking at a three year annexation plan 931 01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,560 in order to proceed this way. 932 01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:39,920 I think some of you mentioned at the meeting that you wanted to really protect the area 933 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:46,040 around the campus, the aesthetics, the land uses, and so forth, so perhaps in an area 934 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:52,060 that looks more like this that is kind of surrounds the relic campus, we just kind of drew 935 01:19:52,060 --> 01:19:57,660 a quick and dirty line and said, you know, there's 550 parcels in here, about 13 square miles, 936 01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:04,020 there's about 276 home states in here, again, this would require a three year annexation 937 01:20:04,020 --> 01:20:04,320 plan. 938 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,140 I want to remind you that your comprehensive plan that you just adopted back in October 939 01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:15,200 addressed the issue of annexation and when we talk about annexation and you know the 940 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:20,020 amount of land the city can annex or establishing the annexation plan it might be a good idea 941 01:20:20,020 --> 01:20:25,860 to not just look at one area but perhaps think about you know are there other areas where 942 01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:30,860 the city could benefit from annexation some of these may seem familiar to you. 943 01:20:30,860 --> 01:20:34,340 they were a discussion back in 2008. 944 01:20:35,580 --> 01:20:36,660 There are some new areas. 945 01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:39,020 The comprehensive plan suggests that, you know, 946 01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:42,740 the city should look at really looking at annexations 947 01:20:42,740 --> 01:20:45,540 and do some and really establish a plan 948 01:20:45,540 --> 01:20:48,660 for annexation for future growth in those areas. 949 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,900 So really the policy considerations that you have 950 01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:53,900 is, you know, how does the city's, 951 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,240 how does annexation support the city's vision 952 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,040 and what goal does annexation accomplish 953 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:00,060 and at what cost. 954 01:21:00,820 --> 01:21:05,360 The policy tools that you have in you disposal are the comprehensive plan, your capital improvement 955 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:11,780 plan, where you plan capital expenditures on a yearly basis based on a rating system, 956 01:21:13,020 --> 01:21:18,240 water wastewater extension policies and subdivision regulations, which often play hand-in-hand 957 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:26,860 as properties develop in our ETJ or in the areas that are growing, really a fiscal impact analysis. 958 01:21:26,860 --> 01:21:33,560 You know, you're looking at obviously annexation and opponents of annexation often point out, well, this is just a land grab 959 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:39,360 You just trying to get money property taxes from me. Well, at the same time, I think it's a two-way street 960 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:46,040 You know, I think if a city is committed to orderly growth to have really raised the bar 961 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:53,640 Have attractive corridors and development in those corridors. You know, perhaps there should be some sort of investment in certain types of 962 01:21:53,640 --> 01:22:00,220 infrastructure, that would be up to your discretion, and then going back to the evaluation criteria 963 01:22:00,220 --> 01:22:08,460 that you established back in 2007. Now, as far as cost goes, it's without knowing exactly 964 01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:16,200 which area might be annexed. We just have some very tentative numbers here, but I think the 965 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:22,120 big number in this, one of the big numbers in this list right here, would be a reimbursement 966 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,900 for the emergency services district. 967 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:30,720 Every property in the county right now is part of the emergency services district. 968 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,540 And so it is taxed by that district. 969 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,200 If you annex land out of that district, you have to reimburse that district. 970 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,760 We have contacted, in this particular case, the emergency service district for within which 971 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:49,000 is the area around the railless campus to kind of get a better ballpark idea as to what 972 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:55,160 cost we might be looking at, the number that I listed here at about $21 to Acre was based on 973 01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:00,900 the amount that the district had when we annexed I believe it. Well, when we did the most recent 974 01:23:00,900 --> 01:23:08,300 annexation for the Anderson, I'm sorry, yeah, the Anderson tract on Highway 47 and the Sanderson 975 01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:16,120 Farms property. So that was about what we had to pay that emergency services district at the time. 976 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:22,020 We would have to do a land boundary survey, which the price for that you see right there, 977 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,360 there's obviously certain notification requirements. 978 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:30,580 The big unknown at this time is really the inventory of the services for what services 979 01:23:30,580 --> 01:23:34,580 might be needed, what facilities actually, what conditions are the road, and yes, it gets 980 01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:40,920 that detailed when you establish an annexation plan, you really want to know what you're annexing 981 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,640 because you might, you want to avoid future liabilities or really make informed decisions of the 982 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,820 the areas that you bring into the city. 983 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,500 I mentioned the service plan negotiation, an arbitration. 984 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,280 I have no idea what that might cost at this time. 985 01:23:56,480 --> 01:24:02,500 And then perhaps the additional cost to provide additional city services, you know, police 986 01:24:02,500 --> 01:24:06,240 services, fire services, solid waste services, you might need a new trash truck. 987 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:12,720 If you annex about 30% of your current city, you know, the existing fleet might not be able 988 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:13,220 to cover that. 989 01:24:13,340 --> 01:24:13,940 I don't know that. 990 01:24:13,940 --> 01:24:16,060 but others could tell us. 991 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,160 And then, you know, it would be who 992 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,720 us to really look at hiring an annexation consultant team, 993 01:24:22,980 --> 01:24:24,340 perhaps made up of an attorney. 994 01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:28,140 Somebody that's really good with numbers and an engineer 995 01:24:28,140 --> 01:24:32,520 and others to really help us make an informed decision 996 01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:36,160 and drop an annexation time and put staff time on here, 997 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,660 which, as you know, is priceless. 998 01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:42,760 So possible next steps in this process 999 01:24:43,940 --> 01:24:55,140 But what we would suggest to you is to hire an annexation consultant team and really help us define or define areas for annexation and prepare a fiscal impact analysis. 1000 01:24:55,440 --> 01:25:11,960 I think that would really be the smart way of going about looking at bringing more land into the city to make sure that we're not putting future generations in a bind by annexing a landscape. 1001 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:29,520 So, you know, they'll be developed and might not have the property values in the future that we might desire where we can have this balance of added land area and provision of services in the same, you know, to the same level that we have it in other parts of the 1002 01:25:32,910 --> 01:25:33,890 open to any questions. 1003 01:25:36,670 --> 01:25:37,830 I don't know if I can wait. 1004 01:25:38,890 --> 01:25:40,230 I don't know if I can wait. 1005 01:25:40,230 --> 01:25:41,850 Martin, great presentation. 1006 01:25:43,190 --> 01:25:46,030 Councilman Pinionale, one that asked for this to be done 1007 01:25:46,030 --> 01:25:47,430 back in Augustin. 1008 01:25:47,950 --> 01:25:50,830 Could you show the map with the Rellis campus 1009 01:25:50,830 --> 01:25:53,630 and the blue circle around Rellis? 1010 01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:56,610 I think it's the one before. 1011 01:25:56,770 --> 01:25:57,750 Is that the square one before? 1012 01:25:58,130 --> 01:25:58,850 Yeah, the square one. 1013 01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:00,290 Yeah, that one right there. 1014 01:26:01,190 --> 01:26:03,750 What I was thinking when we were talking about this 1015 01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:06,370 is the Rellis is going to be developed 1016 01:26:06,910 --> 01:26:10,390 by the end of 18 with the $200 million with the stuff. 1017 01:26:12,090 --> 01:26:15,810 Also, there's seven research buildings 1018 01:26:15,810 --> 01:26:17,670 going to be constructed between now and then, 1019 01:26:18,450 --> 01:26:21,530 a 10,000 student building campus, 1020 01:26:21,850 --> 01:26:23,930 plus the blend campus is going to be out there, 1021 01:26:24,270 --> 01:26:25,770 plus everything that they already have out there. 1022 01:26:26,450 --> 01:26:29,130 And this is kind of what I was thinking to Annex 1023 01:26:29,130 --> 01:26:30,770 would look like, this is around the relics 1024 01:26:30,770 --> 01:26:32,430 because A&M wants to be protected, 1025 01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:34,370 they don't want just anything built around them. 1026 01:26:34,370 --> 01:26:37,850 And so to simplify it, I think that's kind of where we ought to go. 1027 01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:45,290 And also, I think Relus needs to be in there because there'll be some commercial operations there that can be taxed. 1028 01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:47,290 That we could benefit from taxing. 1029 01:26:47,850 --> 01:26:55,330 And the infrastructure is there for Relus, so what you'd have to add to that is probably the least expensive way to do the annexation. 1030 01:26:55,330 --> 01:26:58,270 and I think, and that's in that, that river over there, 1031 01:26:58,450 --> 01:26:59,870 the Brasis River, that'd be great 1032 01:26:59,870 --> 01:27:01,730 because we could create a river walk or something 1033 01:27:01,730 --> 01:27:04,210 over there one day like San Antonio does. 1034 01:27:04,610 --> 01:27:06,770 But anyway, that's kind of where I was trying to get to, 1035 01:27:07,130 --> 01:27:10,410 is that keep it simple and there can't be that many houses 1036 01:27:10,410 --> 01:27:12,710 in that area and protect the realist campus. 1037 01:27:13,630 --> 01:27:16,590 Sort of like College Station did with the school, 1038 01:27:16,690 --> 01:27:18,810 with Texas A&M, it'll be the same kind of setup. 1039 01:27:19,190 --> 01:27:21,450 And I think we can really reap some tremendous benefits 1040 01:27:21,450 --> 01:27:21,850 from that. 1041 01:27:23,470 --> 01:27:32,250 Just one point in my conversations with John Barton over the Relis campus he had told 1042 01:27:32,250 --> 01:27:39,290 me that there are no plans to have any actual property taxable entities there. 1043 01:27:39,730 --> 01:27:40,230 That's true. 1044 01:27:40,910 --> 01:27:41,390 That's true. 1045 01:27:41,670 --> 01:27:46,290 However, those people are going to do research there, becoming from mobile, Exxon, they'll 1046 01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:49,490 be coming from Ford and Chevrolet and those guys are taxable. 1047 01:27:49,490 --> 01:27:55,950 So some of their stuff is going to be taxable plus the sales tax that they generate there can be can be given to city, right? 1048 01:27:56,010 --> 01:28:00,910 Well, that's different than what they told me so I'll verify that that can be right. Yeah 1049 01:28:01,810 --> 01:28:10,070 Yeah, they won't own land on Texas and M state property and therefore they write a and that that's how they have done it in the past is a and M 1050 01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:18,510 Owns all of the buildings except for blend that's true. However, but the stuff inside is personal property owned by other than 1051 01:28:18,510 --> 01:28:22,550 Texas and young people so that'll be taxed and they'll have a lot of equipment in there. 1052 01:28:22,670 --> 01:28:32,510 An example of that is over by the Health Science Center, the NCTM, so the NCTM has other 1053 01:28:32,510 --> 01:28:36,170 agencies that are located inside and they're still zero taxable value. 1054 01:28:37,210 --> 01:28:38,330 I'll check and make sure. 1055 01:28:38,390 --> 01:28:41,510 If they're non-profit, right, but these guys aren't going to be non-profit, that's going 1056 01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:42,350 to be a big time deal. 1057 01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:47,510 And plus the area around there, if they can't locate on campus, they won't locate near 1058 01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:50,010 here there, so. Right. Which is the plan? Yeah. Right. 1059 01:28:54,130 --> 01:28:54,830 Other questions? 1060 01:28:55,670 --> 01:29:07,610 Will you go back to the area that has the blue but not the squares. That area. How many 1061 01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:16,090 square miles is that? 13 square miles. 13? Okay. But see there's 276 homes in there. Is 1062 01:29:16,090 --> 01:29:18,190 Is that homesteads or homes 276? 1063 01:29:19,210 --> 01:29:21,150 It's homestead, it's a quick and dirty 1064 01:29:21,150 --> 01:29:23,370 pool from the, it's a good, may not be a home there. 1065 01:29:23,990 --> 01:29:26,650 There may be more dwelling units on the ground, actually. 1066 01:29:26,990 --> 01:29:33,230 But I think it would be an error to reach out 1067 01:29:33,230 --> 01:29:38,310 and annex the relic campus without annexing this large area 1068 01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:42,790 in between Highway 47 and 28, 18. 1069 01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:50,430 And that has enough homes in it that we would have to go through the three-year process. 1070 01:29:51,790 --> 01:29:52,690 That is correct. 1071 01:29:52,750 --> 01:29:53,030 Yes. 1072 01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:55,530 That was the previous slide that I have right here. 1073 01:29:56,110 --> 01:29:59,930 Now, for this area, if you remember part of the Comprehensive Planes... 1074 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,620 The West Area plan, when, when Flynn was still thinking about going on another property. So we, we kind of have a more defined vision for a lot of this area already in place. There, there will be buses and there will be monences in all those areas. And one of the important parts like on this one is covering both sides of highway 21, not just, not just one. That was, yes, that was from interest from Texas A&M also is that 1075 01:30:29,620 --> 01:30:36,240 I think pushing for us to do this to I think the slides showing now would be the most desirable area to annex 1076 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:39,680 Yeah, because I 1077 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:46,060 Don't think we will derive significant benefit from 1078 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:53,320 Taxes on the relus campus, but that's where a consultant comes in but it won't cost anything to annex them 1079 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,960 So if they do put anything out there 1080 01:30:55,960 --> 01:31:02,840 It would exceed or would it if we if we annex area showing now in blue and the 1081 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:08,200 railing campus that would exceed our 13.5 miles. That is correct. That issue is 1082 01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:13,180 you annex a lot of land that has I mean the way we looked at it and talking to 1083 01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:17,780 an M they weren't very interested in being being annexed unless we were going to 1084 01:31:17,780 --> 01:31:20,820 build the roads and all that form and since they don't pay taxes we're not 1085 01:31:20,820 --> 01:31:27,700 not really interested in building the roads for them, but that's why in all of our plans 1086 01:31:27,700 --> 01:31:33,600 up to now we have not included the railless campus because it takes, it's 2,000 acres 1087 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,420 that it takes to annex something that the citizens will get very little benefit from. 1088 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:46,700 And I think we need to be sensitive to what A&M wants with regard to the annexation. 1089 01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:55,660 But at any point in time that A&M wanted us to annex that property and if it was, you 1090 01:31:55,660 --> 01:32:02,080 know, if an agreement was acceptable to us, that could be annexed under a owner request. 1091 01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:02,860 That's correct. 1092 01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:08,360 But we don't, we don't lose that acreage with regard to our ability to initiate it. 1093 01:32:08,580 --> 01:32:09,400 That's exactly right. 1094 01:32:09,580 --> 01:32:10,060 That's a good idea. 1095 01:32:10,060 --> 01:32:10,140 Yeah. 1096 01:32:12,500 --> 01:32:15,520 So, and we've had several references to Texas A&M. 1097 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,220 You know, the, the railless campus is really system driven and not university driven. 1098 01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:21,000 Is it the system? 1099 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:30,860 You mentioned Barton is, is this, if we had a John Barton was in our conversations relaying 1100 01:32:30,860 --> 01:32:37,920 information that I think both President Young and Chancellor Sharp had some concerns moving 1101 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:45,040 that moving forward and had expressed their desire to work with us to get those areas annexed. 1102 01:32:45,140 --> 01:32:51,040 Okay, so they're requesting at least some generic type of consideration of it? 1103 01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:57,780 Yeah, and there's no formal request just in our meetings they expressed their desire to 1104 01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:03,720 have this annex, but I would expect and hope that we do get their support moving forward. 1105 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,940 I agree with Councilman Hartman, however, I think the most important thing now is that 1106 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:20,600 to get this done as they get their buildings on the ground so that when someone cries 1107 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,180 to come in associated with a banana on campus, they're not just allowed to build anything 1108 01:33:25,180 --> 01:33:26,180 around there. 1109 01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:28,040 You know, it's got to be controlled by us. 1110 01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:33,040 I think it'd be a hard advantage to control what's there plus if there's any kind of streets 1111 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:37,700 featuring anything to be built, we'll have to maintain them anyway eventually so we can have some control inside. 1112 01:33:38,440 --> 01:33:39,740 Are you talking with in-rollers campus? 1113 01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:41,480 No, I'm talking out around-rollers campus. 1114 01:33:41,780 --> 01:33:50,940 So what you could do is you could annex around-rollers campus but not too big that slows the system down and then later on if we see there's money there, annex-rollers too. 1115 01:33:51,220 --> 01:34:01,920 So, Martin, this area where it looks like the browsers are ever used to be but no longer is but it's still within Braseless County. 1116 01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,760 You know, that's little hoop that over there on the left bottom left side 1117 01:34:07,860 --> 01:34:15,000 Where I'm just thinking you know down the road do we don't have that's not contiguous to anything is that why that's designed there 1118 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:20,080 So that could be considered at a later date or we got Sutherland's river walk to consider here 1119 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:28,760 Again, this was just a quick and dirty how how you know with 13 what do 13 square miles look like there's there was no 1120 01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:33,240 So there was no intention to leave an area out and, you know, based on the conversations 1121 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,620 that we listened to about, you know, a couple of months ago, this is this kind of what we 1122 01:34:37,620 --> 01:34:38,140 came up with. 1123 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:43,700 Now, I do need a little bit of direction like which direction you want to go if anywhere 1124 01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:50,580 because, you know, we want to see, do you want us to pursue an exempt area annexation to kind 1125 01:34:50,580 --> 01:34:55,960 of see, you know, if we just went around the campus, how many homes this that would be, what 1126 01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:00,940 that that could entail, or do we need to look at an expanded area for an annexation 1127 01:35:00,940 --> 01:35:04,140 plan, and take it a step further what I said on one of my slides. 1128 01:35:04,140 --> 01:35:09,720 Do we want to look at, again, 13.5 square miles, because we have an annexed in three years. 1129 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:15,260 Do we want to do all that over the next three years in just one area, or do we want to look 1130 01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:21,100 at other areas that might have development pressures, or that might also be important? 1131 01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:30,800 So in order to move forward, in order to perhaps engage a consultant, we would kind of want to know which direction the council wants us to go. 1132 01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:32,040 Mayor Pro Tem. 1133 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,840 I would assume that next logical step be to hire the consultant. 1134 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,680 That would be direction I think. 1135 01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:49,340 Yeah, when you said 200,000 on that was that sort of for the whole, I know that it's a probably a guesstimate, right? 1136 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:58,680 So, but was your guesstimate assuming over the three-year process the team would cost this because you referred to the team later in the presentation version? 1137 01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:05,100 I would envision it to be a consultant team that with staff support would, would see this project go through from start. 1138 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,900 And the 200,000 is over three years, not annually. 1139 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:10,840 in the ballpark area. 1140 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,260 Depending on, you know, there's RFP type process. 1141 01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:14,700 Exactly. 1142 01:36:15,140 --> 01:36:16,280 How big a ballpark? 1143 01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:19,500 Is it pretty real? 1144 01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:20,700 How big a riverway this could be? 1145 01:36:21,020 --> 01:36:21,420 Just really. 1146 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,400 A real big ballpark. 1147 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:23,320 It's ballfield. 1148 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,780 Mayor, I think that we need to scope it because I think, 1149 01:36:27,860 --> 01:36:31,200 for me, the most important thing, is controlling around relus. 1150 01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:34,160 So I think instead of giving the whole town to look at, 1151 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,780 we ought to tell them, look at relis, 1152 01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:37,880 and see what the other annex around relus 1153 01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:43,860 listen and secure that area. So that way it may be a little cheaper too. Yeah. Well, 1154 01:36:44,020 --> 01:36:49,020 isn't that what we're doing here? Well, I mean, is it worth saying if there are any areas around town 1155 01:36:49,020 --> 01:36:53,900 that we would also be considering doing as to look at that? And it's beyond beyond this presentation, 1156 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:59,020 right? Again, I'm not just saying this because I like to say it, but your comprehensive plan actually 1157 01:36:59,020 --> 01:37:04,500 recommends that. So I just wanted to throw that out there and remind you. Yeah, but we can do that, 1158 01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:15,280 But not now. Later. I know that's what I think there's a two minutes importance. There's time to get this one right here to get this guy done before we get locked out of something later on anything 1159 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:17,580 else. 1160 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:31,520 All right. Thank you very much Martin. Appreciate it. Okay. Next item is a presentation by Shannon over be regarding additional fiscal year 2017 funding for the convention and visitors bureau relocation. 1161 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,660 May your council thank you so much for your time today and you'll have to excuse me 1162 01:37:38,660 --> 01:37:42,380 I'm getting over a cold so in case I have a little coughing fit. 1163 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,760 Real quickly I wanted to identify a couple of people that are here with me today. 1164 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:54,440 I've got some of my executive board including Jim Ross our chair, Jerome Rectorick, who's 1165 01:37:54,440 --> 01:38:00,920 from the other city council who's on my board Dan Eichler, Dr. Gary Ellis and of course 1166 01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,120 our spend heart am inserves from the city of Brian. 1167 01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,280 And I've brought Cynthia Brown, my director of finance, 1168 01:38:07,820 --> 01:38:11,440 and then James Halliburton is our architect, and 1169 01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:16,080 I'm here to tell you a little bit about something that I'm pushing it the right way. 1170 01:38:16,460 --> 01:38:21,540 First of all, just as a reminder, our current mission statement is that we represent the entire 1171 01:38:21,540 --> 01:38:26,840 Brasis Valley to enhance economic and social growth in Brian College Station and 1172 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:31,880 throughout the Bras's Valley by marketing, promoting, developing, and coordinating tourism 1173 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:36,140 conventions, sports, and hospitality opportunities in our area. 1174 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:42,820 As you know, we have been looking for a new office, so that's what I'm here to talk to you 1175 01:38:42,820 --> 01:38:44,060 about a little bit about today. 1176 01:38:44,220 --> 01:38:47,300 I'm going to tell you the history of where the CVB has been. 1177 01:38:47,820 --> 01:38:52,940 Our search over the past three years, the new location that we hope to move into by July 1178 01:38:52,940 --> 01:39:01,100 First, the funding needs that we are looking for and then also ask for some feedback from 1179 01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:01,640 y'all. 1180 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:02,520 Do we lose? 1181 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:03,900 Sorry. 1182 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:05,520 Okay. 1183 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:07,580 Can y'all still see it on yours? 1184 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:08,160 Okay. 1185 01:39:09,740 --> 01:39:15,560 First of all, history for over 30 years we were located on the corner of tarot and university 1186 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:19,780 drive and approximately 5,000 square feet. 1187 01:39:19,780 --> 01:39:25,220 We lived there rent-free, it was owned by the City of College Station and provided to us rent-free. 1188 01:39:25,780 --> 01:39:30,420 We were responsible for the upkeep of the building and if any of you visited that building, 1189 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:35,640 it was falling down around our ears and my understanding is our upkeep more than paid the rent. 1190 01:39:35,980 --> 01:39:41,940 So the city sold that entire block three years ago and we moved out. 1191 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:49,660 And our purpose at that time was to find a location still on university drive that could serve our needs 1192 01:39:49,660 --> 01:39:54,780 for three years while we looked at the options of where we could go at that after that. 1193 01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:02,220 We currently are on university drive in 3,000 square feet, so we downsized, added to additional 1194 01:40:02,220 --> 01:40:08,220 staff people that smaller space, and our rent is approximately $16 a square foot. 1195 01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:13,120 Is that 16 a month annually? 1196 01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:15,360 Yes, sorry. 1197 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,200 Thank goodness. 1198 01:40:17,660 --> 01:40:19,040 I have a come up. 1199 01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:19,400 No. 1200 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:20,240 Oh, yeah. 1201 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:28,200 And if you're not familiar with where we are now, have any, do you, any of you know where 1202 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,460 we are at this time? 1203 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,640 Mr. Hardman certainly does. 1204 01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:36,580 As we are, we are the old Brazil's real estate company, 1205 01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:37,420 is that what it was called. 1206 01:40:37,980 --> 01:40:41,540 It used to be located between the holiday and express 1207 01:40:41,540 --> 01:40:42,980 and university title. 1208 01:40:43,500 --> 01:40:44,520 We're a little bit hidden. 1209 01:40:45,020 --> 01:40:46,400 We're in a much smaller location. 1210 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,400 As I said, we're sitting in each other's laps. 1211 01:40:48,660 --> 01:40:52,360 We also, in addition, have three outside storage units, 1212 01:40:52,540 --> 01:40:54,640 not on site, but off-site storage units 1213 01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,800 that we have to utilize for all of our equipment and stuff. 1214 01:40:58,900 --> 01:41:01,540 University Drive still is geographically neutral. 1215 01:41:01,540 --> 01:41:07,520 It's basically the border between the City of College Station and City of Brian essentially. 1216 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,660 It's kind of the main thoroughfare and we thought that's where we wanted to be. 1217 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,940 We do serve currently as the visitor center. 1218 01:41:15,220 --> 01:41:19,480 In our old location, we saw the numbers going down on the number of visitors that came into 1219 01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:21,540 our location as the visitor center. 1220 01:41:21,780 --> 01:41:25,760 We've seen them drop even more drastically and I'll address that in a minute. 1221 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,640 But over the past two and a half years, we've looked at a variety of options of where we 1222 01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:36,600 can locate. We looked at some space out by Veterans Park that would actually be part 1223 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:42,560 of the University's land. We looked at joint space with the Arts Council and the Texas 1224 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:47,720 Aggies go to War Exhibit now that it's coming back to the community. And the most recent 1225 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:52,620 place that we looked was at Benjamin Knox's location, which again is on University Drive. 1226 01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:59,280 He purchased some additional land behind his train depot and we evaluated that to the tune 1227 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,240 of approximately $26 a square foot annually on that, but it would be joint space between 1228 01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,660 the Arts Council and the Texas Aggies go to war. 1229 01:42:07,300 --> 01:42:11,880 But due to changes in the market and feedback from our stakeholders, both of our funding 1230 01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:17,260 partners, the City of Bryan and City of College Station, we took a step back from the Benjamin 1231 01:42:17,260 --> 01:42:22,080 Knox location and started looking for something that was lower rent, closer to what we are currently 1232 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:29,460 paying at $16, $16, not necessarily on a high rent university drive frontage. 1233 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:38,000 We were told because of the increase in hotels and the decrease in demand and the decrease 1234 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,580 in occupancy of our hotels, we really needed to focus more on sales and spend our money on 1235 01:42:42,580 --> 01:42:46,140 sales and marketing rather than on having a storefront on high rent. 1236 01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:51,680 And really, we found that there's not a need for a permanent visitor center within our office. 1237 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,820 As I said, we saw numbers going down. 1238 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,520 We purchased a mobile visitor center to take visitor information to the visitor. 1239 01:42:58,780 --> 01:43:01,500 So when Texas Reds is here, or First Fridays is downtown, 1240 01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,340 we bring the mobile visitor center down here to the visitors to provide visitor information. 1241 01:43:07,540 --> 01:43:12,660 And we identified four possible locations all over Bryan and College Station. 1242 01:43:12,660 --> 01:43:17,080 We looked from the north end of Brianne to the south end of college station and evaluated 1243 01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:17,460 them. 1244 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:22,320 The board evaluated all four of those locations and came up with the final decision. 1245 01:43:22,900 --> 01:43:23,480 And this is it. 1246 01:43:24,060 --> 01:43:30,360 614 Holliman Drive East in college stations on the corner of Dartmouth and Holliman Drive. 1247 01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:34,700 That's the loft location at Wolf Penn. 1248 01:43:35,340 --> 01:43:37,920 It is a doomed restaurant location, apparently. 1249 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:43,940 It's the Arbano Restaurant and Red Mango, that whole section on the bottom floor there. 1250 01:43:44,220 --> 01:43:47,820 It's approximately just shy of 7,000 square feet. 1251 01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:54,720 It will house 12 offices, plenty of intern and volunteer workspace and storage space. 1252 01:43:54,860 --> 01:43:58,220 We'll be able to get rid of those three offsite storage unit. 1253 01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:04,460 It also will have a board room, which is significant because currently our board meeting is next 1254 01:44:04,460 --> 01:44:09,540 month and Cynthia and I are scrambling trying to find meeting space in a hotel or somewhere 1255 01:44:09,540 --> 01:44:15,120 to have that meeting which we do every month for our board meetings. But it's also significant 1256 01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:21,220 because it's adequate space for small community meetings to utilize that space as well and it will 1257 01:44:21,220 --> 01:44:26,940 be configured in such a way that it can be locked off from the rest of the office and available for 1258 01:44:26,940 --> 01:44:34,240 other groups to use. We initially were looking for about 5,500 to 6,000 square feet. There's an 1259 01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:41,100 additional 871 square feet that's being offered to us significantly at a significant discount 1260 01:44:41,100 --> 01:44:47,760 on rent in between Redmango and Sauvy Boutique, which is the retail, the one retail establishment 1261 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,400 in this location at the moment. 1262 01:44:50,060 --> 01:44:55,860 And we, the board is looking at some options for how to utilize that space. 1263 01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,760 Some of the things we've talked about is just storage, bringing all our storage 1264 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,420 There's stuff back over there and not have to pay anything for off-site storage, or possibly incubator office space for some of our clients when they're holding meetings or events here or tournaments or conferences. They may not be housed here. They may office in Austin, for example, and they just need kind of a home office here during their conference. Or something maybe we could sublet it to another community organization. But what's important to me is I want this not to be just for three or five years. I want this to be our forever home. 1265 01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:34,480 So it offers that flexibility to expand in the future should the needs of the community chain. 1266 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,560 We're currently under negotiations and working on a lease agreement with our attorney 1267 01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:48,180 and the owner of the property, but they are offering us some abated rent, some free rent 1268 01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:53,900 or half rent for the first year in exchange for not offering build-out allowance. 1269 01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:56,040 And these are some of the terms here. 1270 01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:03,380 So for the first year, the cost would be $3,856 and so on. 1271 01:46:03,580 --> 01:46:05,640 And it is a five-year lease that we're looking at 1272 01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,340 with a five-year renewable option. 1273 01:46:10,230 --> 01:46:12,670 So the funding needs and where we are today. 1274 01:46:13,930 --> 01:46:17,230 And currently, and I noticed I put in a different number, 1275 01:46:17,370 --> 01:46:23,050 but the total buildout and move estimate currently is about 469,000. 1276 01:46:23,050 --> 01:46:26,430 but the numbers below reflect 490. 1277 01:46:26,770 --> 01:46:28,070 And I'll explain what we're doing. 1278 01:46:28,690 --> 01:46:32,530 So we looked at total buildout and move 1279 01:46:32,530 --> 01:46:35,650 and everything it's gonna need for us to move into this space 1280 01:46:36,290 --> 01:46:37,610 and working with our architect 1281 01:46:37,610 --> 01:46:40,250 and actually the bids were due today at two o'clock. 1282 01:46:40,250 --> 01:46:43,230 I left the office right before two to come down here. 1283 01:46:43,850 --> 01:46:46,130 So I haven't had a chance to look at them, 1284 01:46:46,250 --> 01:46:48,250 but those were due today for the construction. 1285 01:46:49,530 --> 01:46:52,350 But what we're looking at doing 1286 01:46:52,350 --> 01:46:56,850 and what the board has voted on is an equitable split of this cost. 1287 01:46:57,730 --> 01:47:02,630 So for we would take total cost, the actual cost, these are just estimates and 1288 01:47:02,630 --> 01:47:07,670 this is the maximum estimate here, but we would take 25% off the top and 1289 01:47:07,670 --> 01:47:10,790 pay for that out of the Convention of Visitor Bureau's reserve fund. 1290 01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:18,590 As you know, we have a policy for a reserve fund of 20% of operating budget. 1291 01:47:18,590 --> 01:47:26,370 And we have slightly more than that, so we'll be able to cover the first 25% of the actual cost. 1292 01:47:26,630 --> 01:47:30,390 With the estimated cost, that would be about $122,500. 1293 01:47:31,010 --> 01:47:35,610 Of the remaining 75%, we would split it equitably between the two cities. 1294 01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:41,690 The city of college station has already committed to 75% of the remaining 75. 1295 01:47:42,130 --> 01:47:45,530 And that would be $275,625. 1296 01:47:45,530 --> 01:47:55,010 And then the remaining 25% that we're asking for consideration from you, from the City of Brian would be 91,0875. 1297 01:47:55,430 --> 01:48:03,370 And I would say that this is all estimate and maximum estimate, we are not asking for any money up front. 1298 01:48:04,090 --> 01:48:12,610 What we've done with the City of College Station is in a separate agreement, said that we will bill after everything's been billed. 1299 01:48:12,610 --> 01:48:15,650 and we've paid everything, we would bill actual amounts. 1300 01:48:16,450 --> 01:48:21,750 So it wouldn't be that amount, it would be less, if that makes sense. 1301 01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:23,350 I got a question. 1302 01:48:23,950 --> 01:48:25,990 Do you have one or two reserve funds? 1303 01:48:26,730 --> 01:48:29,770 We actually have the opportunity to have three. 1304 01:48:29,930 --> 01:48:34,230 We have a strategic reserve fund for any strategic planning that we have. 1305 01:48:34,390 --> 01:48:35,910 There's nothing in that account currently. 1306 01:48:36,450 --> 01:48:41,330 We have an equipment replacement fund, which is set up to replace any equipment 1307 01:48:41,330 --> 01:48:47,910 That has a shelf life of more than 12 months, so to replace vehicles or computer equipment, that sort of thing. 1308 01:48:47,970 --> 01:48:54,710 And we've got enough money in there to think about 58,000 approximately to cover the next two years of equipment replacement. 1309 01:48:55,490 --> 01:49:01,990 And then we have the operating reserve, which, as I said, should be at 20%. 1310 01:49:01,990 --> 01:49:08,650 It's currently because of some other monies and things that's currently approximately 25%. 1311 01:49:08,650 --> 01:49:11,810 So we would take it out of that reserve account. 1312 01:49:13,130 --> 01:49:14,770 Shannon, I have one quick question. 1313 01:49:14,890 --> 01:49:18,870 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but you talk about the buildout calls versus the move. 1314 01:49:19,010 --> 01:49:24,810 Do you have the break out of the buildout is going to be versus whether it's going to cost a move? 1315 01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:25,470 I don't have it. 1316 01:49:25,710 --> 01:49:29,150 With me, we were waiting on all of the bids to come in from the contractors, 1317 01:49:29,150 --> 01:49:32,710 but I can certainly get you that information when we go into that point. 1318 01:49:32,710 --> 01:49:41,870 But the actual moving will be minimal, but it's new fixtures and furniture and things that we will need once we're there. 1319 01:49:42,410 --> 01:49:44,590 So the vast majority of this is built out. 1320 01:49:44,830 --> 01:49:47,970 Absolutely. It's currently a restaurant. 1321 01:49:48,530 --> 01:49:52,870 So it's going to require gutting and building of walls and all of that. 1322 01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:57,450 It's not like just go in and paint and fix up the offices. 1323 01:49:57,450 --> 01:50:02,990 And what was the, just for a point of reference for some of us who are new and don't have the history here? 1324 01:50:03,430 --> 01:50:12,450 What was the original total cost for the one that was on university near the Benjamin Knox gallery that got Nick's? 1325 01:50:12,610 --> 01:50:22,930 It was going to be owned and sublet by Benjamin, so it was approximately $26 a square foot rent. 1326 01:50:22,930 --> 01:50:27,610 So the buildout hadn't even been taken into account, we never got to that point. 1327 01:50:28,290 --> 01:50:30,270 It was the rent, that was a point of contingency. 1328 01:50:30,630 --> 01:50:37,850 The current space, they're giving us the free rent six months and then six months of 1329 01:50:37,850 --> 01:50:38,450 half rent. 1330 01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:41,470 The rent is $14 a square foot. 1331 01:50:42,750 --> 01:50:47,210 And that's based on years they're not giving you sessions, right? 1332 01:50:47,550 --> 01:50:51,390 That is how much it will be when we start paying $14 a square foot annually. 1333 01:50:53,310 --> 01:51:06,130 for the $6,000 square feet that additional space they're giving us at $6.25 a square foot or something like that for that additional incubator or storage space. 1334 01:51:07,010 --> 01:51:10,990 What's up with the incubator for a convention center and visitors bureau? 1335 01:51:11,290 --> 01:51:15,670 It was just an idea, something that could possibly that space could be used for. 1336 01:51:15,770 --> 01:51:19,750 We haven't identified exactly how we're going to use that space or build it out exactly. 1337 01:51:21,690 --> 01:51:23,970 Well, 4-H is a great example. 1338 01:51:24,150 --> 01:51:24,950 How about 7-on-7? 1339 01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:27,830 7-on-7 tournament is a great event in our community. 1340 01:51:28,230 --> 01:51:29,710 They're not actually housed here. 1341 01:51:29,810 --> 01:51:31,790 They're coming in from other areas of the state. 1342 01:51:32,150 --> 01:51:38,330 And if the plan or while he was running that tournament needed a place just to keep his 1343 01:51:38,330 --> 01:51:43,050 stuff and take notes and have a place to go at night and work on a computer, we could set 1344 01:51:43,050 --> 01:51:43,350 it up. 1345 01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:48,950 It has its own entrance that they could come in and utilize that space during their 1346 01:51:48,950 --> 01:51:53,670 event. There was just a service that convention and visitor bureaus don't typically offer it 1347 01:51:53,670 --> 01:51:57,310 might give us a competitive advantage when bidding on tournaments and conferences. 1348 01:51:57,990 --> 01:52:02,350 That's a temporary offer. I want to think of an incubator. I think of like economic development 1349 01:52:02,350 --> 01:52:06,170 and new businesses startups. You're not really talking about doing that. Just to help them to grow 1350 01:52:06,170 --> 01:52:10,670 their events. So if they needed a space to come in and work during their event, it would just be 1351 01:52:10,670 --> 01:52:16,310 temporary space. Yes, sir. Yeah, I think incubator wouldn't the best more is there. 1352 01:52:17,330 --> 01:52:22,610 temporary facilities while their organization is in town which might extend 1353 01:52:22,610 --> 01:52:27,330 earlier than and later than the actual event but only for a short period. 1354 01:52:27,490 --> 01:52:30,510 So temporary event administration space is the intention. 1355 01:52:30,650 --> 01:52:36,850 There you go, yes sir. And here's kind of the draft of how it's going to kind of be 1356 01:52:36,850 --> 01:52:40,210 laid out and you'll see at the bottom on the on the left there is that 1357 01:52:40,210 --> 01:52:46,670 multi-purpose space. So we haven't, the architect hasn't drawn anything in there as far as 1358 01:52:46,670 --> 01:52:50,130 building anything so we haven't identified the board is going to be making a decision 1359 01:52:50,130 --> 01:52:57,430 on that on how that space will be utilized. But you'll see it's going to be very multi-functional 1360 01:52:57,430 --> 01:53:03,390 kind of, and I do want to point out too that there is no visitor center in this. 1361 01:53:06,610 --> 01:53:10,190 This is 1362 01:53:10,190 --> 01:53:13,050 It is not on a main thoroughfare and it is not very easy to find. 1363 01:53:13,530 --> 01:53:14,650 This is office space. 1364 01:53:15,150 --> 01:53:19,310 And again, for those of you who have come into our office where we currently are, if 1365 01:53:19,310 --> 01:53:25,950 you were coming to meet with one of my sales team or my marketing team, you would have to 1366 01:53:25,950 --> 01:53:33,510 probably climb over boxes or meet in the break room or none of the offices have doors. 1367 01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:39,730 So there's not any privacy and it's not real conducive to have a client come in and meet 1368 01:53:39,730 --> 01:53:46,490 with the sales team here in our current space and have them have confidence and yes I want to 1369 01:53:46,490 --> 01:53:53,110 bring my large convention or a large event to your community. This will give us that capability 1370 01:53:53,110 --> 01:53:57,750 because we'll have the board room, we'll have some function space and the office space will be laid 1371 01:53:57,750 --> 01:54:03,570 out in such a way that it'll allow for creativity and for brainstorming and for collaborating with 1372 01:54:03,570 --> 01:54:11,230 the partners and the team at work, but then it also allows for some presentations and some 1373 01:54:12,710 --> 01:54:14,530 wooing of clients, if you will. 1374 01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:20,420 This is a hard one. Do you have a question on that? 1375 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,800 I punched that earlier. I will take the opportunity to speak briefly. 1376 01:54:26,660 --> 01:54:34,180 I've been on the CBB board just a little over a year now. I have learned a lot of the last year. 1377 01:54:34,180 --> 01:54:46,060 When I got on the board, we were discussing the Benjamin Knox option and several comments that would make relative to that one. 1378 01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:50,640 It was a very expensive option, a very expensive option. 1379 01:54:54,760 --> 01:55:04,060 Historically, I think because of our ages, we think of a visitor center as being an office that visitors to the community, 1380 01:55:04,060 --> 01:55:07,260 to stop into to get information about the community. 1381 01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,840 I had to make that transition myself, 1382 01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:12,940 but it didn't take long. 1383 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,860 If you start thinking about the level of usage 1384 01:55:15,860 --> 01:55:17,860 of online information, 1385 01:55:18,670 --> 01:55:20,680 if you're going to a city to visit, 1386 01:55:21,260 --> 01:55:22,720 you don't wait till you get there 1387 01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:26,180 to start learning about what's in that community 1388 01:55:26,180 --> 01:55:27,400 that you might want to visit. 1389 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,020 You go online and learn that. 1390 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,800 And that has made a huge difference 1391 01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:37,340 in the walk-in type visitor to the Convention of Visitors Bureau. 1392 01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:43,860 So I do support this location, it's, you know, it's what? 1393 01:55:44,180 --> 01:55:46,860 Mile in the conversation, but it's an office building. 1394 01:55:47,140 --> 01:55:53,660 It's not a visitor center that out of town visitors would come in to learn about our community. 1395 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:59,480 Discussions have already taken place relative to two or 1396 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:17,460 For three small visitor centers, not on property owned by the CVB, but on property utilized and staffed and supplied with brochures and literature in various places in the community, including at least one in Brian. 1397 01:56:18,180 --> 01:56:25,440 So I think that will meet the current and the limited needs for visitor center in the future. 1398 01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:35,000 So I think this is a good option and hopefully, hopefully enter into the agreement with CBB. 1399 01:56:35,300 --> 01:56:46,640 That is our next step is to identify those visitor center locations and of course the queen is one of my top locations in downtown because we don't want the visitors to have to come find us. 1400 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:53,800 We want to be where the visitors are and that's hard to do just in a location on university drive. 1401 01:56:53,800 --> 01:57:02,300 If it needs to be some place that where people congregate downtown, Texas A&M, somewhere on the university drive where there's a lot of people. 1402 01:57:03,540 --> 01:57:08,120 So we'll work on that in our next step, but this is our first step. 1403 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:09,100 Councilman Simon. 1404 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:10,140 Yes, thank you, Mayor. 1405 01:57:10,460 --> 01:57:12,700 Shannon, I just had one more quick question. 1406 01:57:12,940 --> 01:57:13,240 Yes, sir. 1407 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:18,660 On, you talked about the city of color stations paying the 75, the city of Brian's going to pay the 25. 1408 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:24,540 Those numbers that are being agreed upon, the 275 and the 91,000, is that the maximum? 1409 01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:31,280 I just want to make sure that you said actual invoices, I didn't want it to be, we approved 91 it come in at 150. 1410 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:44,560 Now, I worked really closely with James with our architect and really working through the numbers and that is the maximum amount that we feel very comfortable with saying that it will not exceed that amount. 1411 01:57:45,380 --> 01:57:50,360 So that's why we want to do everything post, and don't give us the money up front, let 1412 01:57:50,360 --> 01:57:54,600 us invoice you after we've already paid everything, and then we'll be able to provide you with 1413 01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:56,300 So you're going to save us some money then? 1414 01:57:58,020 --> 01:57:59,840 My director of finance knows this. 1415 01:58:00,020 --> 01:58:03,980 I'm a chief skater at home and a pinney pinnacle, I do the same thing at work, so. 1416 01:58:04,380 --> 01:58:04,780 Thank you. 1417 01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:10,460 I think you could say that if it comes in over that total amount, CVB pays the dividend. 1418 01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:10,960 Absolutely. 1419 01:58:11,820 --> 01:58:12,640 That's what I like to hear. 1420 01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:22,940 Absolutely. Councilman Savo. Thank you Mayor. A couple of questions you know or three or four anyway. How much square footage of office space do you have? Do you have now? 1421 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:31,000 Right out I think 3100 at 3100 now. Okay, and how much office space have you calculated that you need? 1422 01:58:31,500 --> 01:58:40,500 We estimated for a board room and storage space everything about 55 to 6,000. Okay, and then how much storage how much storage room do you need? 1423 01:58:40,500 --> 01:58:43,460 We currently have three offsite storage units. 1424 01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:44,200 How much square feet? 1425 01:58:46,310 --> 01:58:47,510 Are they ten by ten? 1426 01:58:48,010 --> 01:58:50,070 Two, three hundred. 1427 01:58:51,510 --> 01:58:53,750 Three ten by ten, give or take. 1428 01:58:54,870 --> 01:59:00,110 Okay, and then how much do you plan for fixtures and furniture to go in the building? 1429 01:59:00,110 --> 01:59:03,530 I don't have the breakdown, but that's the total amount with everything you need. 1430 01:59:03,530 --> 01:59:04,570 That's in half a million dollars. 1431 01:59:05,890 --> 01:59:07,710 Three model and fixtures and furniture. 1432 01:59:07,870 --> 01:59:08,430 Everything's included. 1433 01:59:09,190 --> 01:59:09,370 Thank you. 1434 01:59:09,370 --> 01:59:10,450 and architecture fees. 1435 01:59:10,970 --> 01:59:11,030 Okay. 1436 01:59:14,330 --> 01:59:15,210 Any other questions? 1437 01:59:16,130 --> 01:59:18,370 Here's just a few of the drawings I will share, 1438 01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:20,610 this is the reception area, it'll be branded. 1439 01:59:21,330 --> 01:59:23,410 Because one side of the whole thing 1440 01:59:23,410 --> 01:59:26,390 in its long and narrow, if you've been in the restaurant, 1441 01:59:26,630 --> 01:59:27,650 it's just two restaurants. 1442 01:59:27,850 --> 01:59:30,510 This long and narrow glass on one side, windows on one side. 1443 01:59:30,910 --> 01:59:33,030 So the walls will all be made out of glass 1444 01:59:33,650 --> 01:59:35,410 so that the light will come all the way through. 1445 01:59:35,610 --> 01:59:38,150 Just a couple of the drawings that we've already done. 1446 01:59:38,930 --> 01:59:40,670 And I'd appreciate any feedback 1447 01:59:40,670 --> 01:59:42,550 or any other questions that you may have, 1448 01:59:42,670 --> 01:59:44,030 you've got my contact information. 1449 01:59:44,570 --> 01:59:45,690 And again, I've got the architect 1450 01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:47,530 and some of my board members here 1451 01:59:47,530 --> 01:59:49,330 that if you have any questions of them, too. 1452 01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:52,100 Thank you. 1453 01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:54,980 We mentioned the reserve, it should be 20, 1454 01:59:55,100 --> 01:59:57,600 but it was at 25, is that, 1455 01:59:57,740 --> 01:59:58,920 when you say it should be at 20, 1456 01:59:59,140 --> 01:59:59,680 is that just a, 1457 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:27,660 I'm just curious how that works. That's our policy is for us to have an operating reserve at 20% of our total budget. And our total budget is a little less than we have projected for this current year, as well as just in changes. We've just accumulated because of interest or whatever. It's just kind of gone up slightly to about 25%. Yes, that policy was set by our board last year. Okay. 1458 02:00:27,660 --> 02:00:27,720 Okay. 1459 02:00:27,980 --> 02:00:32,060 The policy is continually discussed. 1460 02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:32,840 Yeah. 1461 02:00:34,180 --> 02:00:34,600 Okay. 1462 02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:35,540 Fair enough. 1463 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:36,400 Fair enough. 1464 02:00:36,700 --> 02:00:37,440 Thank you. 1465 02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:39,300 Thank you for your presentation, Shannon. 1466 02:00:40,740 --> 02:00:42,880 So, any council committee reports? 1467 02:00:43,900 --> 02:00:44,800 District one? 1468 02:00:45,620 --> 02:00:45,920 Councilor. 1469 02:00:46,540 --> 02:00:46,900 We're in. 1470 02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:49,060 My car. 1471 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:52,140 We haven't met for the Bryan Business Council. 1472 02:00:52,220 --> 02:00:53,100 We didn't have a meeting yesterday. 1473 02:00:53,560 --> 02:00:53,740 So, no. 1474 02:00:53,740 --> 02:00:59,700 nothing as of yet for Bryan Business Council, the Bryan 1475 02:00:59,700 --> 02:01:03,840 Callestation, I'm sorry, where are we at? 1476 02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:07,860 Councilman Madison and I are on the committee with 1477 02:01:07,860 --> 02:01:11,060 next day in him, student liaison, I believe. 1478 02:01:11,660 --> 02:01:15,120 We haven't met with them either, or the TURRS 21 we meet next week. 1479 02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,740 So, no one's having a Christmas meetings and 1480 02:01:17,740 --> 02:01:18,680 here's meetings with you? 1481 02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,880 No sir, no, okay, all right, for the new year. 1482 02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:22,960 Mr. Chair, just making sure, yes, sir. 1483 02:01:23,780 --> 02:01:26,240 But he else, Councilor Madison? 1484 02:01:26,780 --> 02:01:33,540 I met with a, when sisters, Mr. City's board, very informative. 1485 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,720 I've got to always go, learn some of the things that they do with, 1486 02:01:45,600 --> 02:02:02,760 I'm going to visit Brian College Station there, and they will be performing at the Stafford 1487 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:12,540 house in downtown Bryan and they're looking for a local church to also perform and also I think it 1488 02:02:12,540 --> 02:02:18,680 was a week of first Thursday I met with the Casa Heights neighborhood association and I was 1489 02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:24,840 able to get with staff on some of the information that they needed and I think keen for his quick 1490 02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:33,460 to it and I think in third weekend on the 21st, we'll be having a call for 1491 02:02:33,460 --> 02:02:34,960 Camp David who's associated me. 1492 02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:36,820 I think I would just do it on board. 1493 02:02:37,860 --> 02:02:39,220 That'll be after I make up a few more times. 1494 02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:39,580 Okay. 1495 02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:43,240 And those are all the means I attend. 1496 02:02:43,500 --> 02:02:43,640 Okay. 1497 02:02:43,940 --> 02:02:45,040 Any other committee means? 1498 02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:45,800 Under report. 1499 02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:46,520 American report. 1500 02:02:46,980 --> 02:02:47,480 That's America. 1501 02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:54,700 Most of my time has been on the CVV committee board and I think we heard a good 1502 02:02:54,700 --> 02:02:56,580 presentation from them this afternoon. 1503 02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,480 Yes, I just have one to report on there. 1504 02:03:00,140 --> 02:03:08,240 The BTU had a meeting last night and board meeting we talked about really good news that 1505 02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:14,220 we've had no safety related accidents this far, this fiscal year for the first three months. 1506 02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:22,320 So that just tells you that the safety program that the BTU and Gary and staff and Keynes put in place is working. 1507 02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:24,940 I mean, so safety has got to be a top priority. 1508 02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:30,560 Also, the board approved contracts for the rotten poll replacement on the underground cable. 1509 02:03:32,020 --> 02:03:34,580 One thing, the year-to-date financials are good. 1510 02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:40,860 The weather is cooperated this far and BTU's retail sales are slightly higher than they had budgeted it. 1511 02:03:41,060 --> 02:03:44,600 So, you know, they do a pretty good job of being conservative on their budgeting. 1512 02:03:44,940 --> 02:03:49,480 And then, one thing, techs.contractors are starting to work and 1513 02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,460 And I know a lot of people have probably talked about this, heard about it. 1514 02:03:53,220 --> 02:03:57,280 The lighting project along Booneville Road is underway. 1515 02:03:57,500 --> 02:04:00,800 New LED lighting will be installed along this major corridor. 1516 02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:07,880 And one other note I think we should know, BTU will close its lobby and drive through. 1517 02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:17,540 At 1.30 this Friday, BTU's billing system will undergo a major software upgrade for the long, over this long period. 1518 02:04:17,540 --> 02:04:26,060 All customers payment related activity will have to wait until Tuesday morning so it just gives you a couple more days to pay your bill 1519 02:04:26,900 --> 02:04:28,100 But that's all I have 1520 02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:34,400 Okay, there's nothing else for the good of this workshop, then we are adjourned