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>>> all right, good evening everyone.

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I would

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like to call the buda city council

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to

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order at 6:31. We have

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an invocation from cole phillips

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from the connection church. If you

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would

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please rise for the invocation and

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remain standing for the pledges.

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I

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just want to mention jeremiah

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29/7 tells us to seek the

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peace and prosperity of the city. Pray

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to

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the lord for it. If it prospers, you, too, will

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prosper, so we want to pray for our

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peace and

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prosperity tonight. Let's do that. Dear

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heavenly father, thank you that we

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can

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come

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before you today recognizing you,

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who you are,

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that you bless the meeting and guide

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our leaders with

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wisdom as they make decisions that

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will impact

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so

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many lives in our community. We ask

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that you

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give them understanding to seek the

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good with

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integrity and fairness. Help them

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to work together in unity for the

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betterment of our city. I pray for

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their families as well. As they are

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given their time tonight

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to serve in this way. And each day

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that they give,

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help their decision to be

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marked with understanding, with empathy,

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with

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a true desire to serve our community and

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we lift up our city to you

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and all of our residents. We ask

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for your

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protection over our city. That you

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provide

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with prosperity. Bless

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us with peace and

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we ask

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that buda is well known for its compassion

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and love. We ask

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all

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this in jesus' name. Amen.

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>> all

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right, please be seated. Ms. Ramirez,

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can

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we have a roll

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call? The mayor

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here, ture, smith, davidson, horne-williams.

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we are

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all present and a quorum. This brings

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to items

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of community interest. School is back

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in

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session and still hot. But things

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are happening.

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>> city hall

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will be closed on

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labor day,

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monday, september 1st. There are the

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upcoming

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public meetings, remainder

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of august and

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going into september. Of note, our

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city council meeting will be september

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2nd and september

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16th and september 17th we will host

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a joint

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meeting between the parks and recreation

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commission

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and buda bond oversight committee. Bboc.

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here are some remaining programs for

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the month of

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august hosted by our

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awesome buda public library. As you

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heard earlier, the buda edc is hosting

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in partnership

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with a number

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of agencies in the area. The future

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career

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expo is this thursday, august

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city

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hall. We are looking for

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opinions. Help us to identify how

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we will move

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forward with our historic guidelines. And then, on

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friday,

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august 22nd, we are a, a sun

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radio southbound series

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will take place at meridian. On september

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this saturday, we are going to be

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participating in the preparedness

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fair. I

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believe this is

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going to be hosted in kyle. Wendy

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smith will

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be at that hosting

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that. And

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planning for our presence. September

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10th we will be, the buda chamber

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of commerce

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will be eaching our honorable mayor

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who will be

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state of the community. This will

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be at the ctx center. You are

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large and in charge there

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sir. We have a couple

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of remaining

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summer concert series. September

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the buda amphitheater. The buda

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arts festival october. Coming up a

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couple of months. And

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get ready for buda

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halloween,

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the vendor

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applications are open. We

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car revival coming back.

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questions for con sill? Thank

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this

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is emergency preparedness month. Wendy smith.

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as the mayor mentioned

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this

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is recognizing august as capcog.

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where

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it is a political subdivision

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of the state

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of texas serving caldwell,

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fayette. Hays, lee, travis, williamson

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counties. The state of

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texas historically leads

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the nation

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federally

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declared disasters. Where local agency. School. Dedicate

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countless hours to preparedness. Response,

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mitigation, to protect the

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lives, businesses, property, and the

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environment in

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their communities. And whereas the

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efforts of

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the region's emergency managers

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have assisted communities to repair,

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recover, rebuild, and become more

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resilient in the face of continuing

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threats,

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emergencies and

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disasters. The region's local agency,

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school, university, previous

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managers are greatly appreciated by

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counties they deserve. We declare

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of august,

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2025 as capcog emergency appreciation

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month. Commitment, dedication, of

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local agency school,

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university, private sector manager

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managers in the capcog region.

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an observation, we

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august. Leading

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up to hurricane month. A lot of

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things. I'm very proud

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of our

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county. How we can

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come together. But, it is impressive

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how different

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organizations

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do work together, come together. For the

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I have a cool little badge.

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we pause in

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august to look back.

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am I ready

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for.

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>> our focus

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in texas.

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all of our

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we feel like it

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of, we look ahead

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, there,

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that will be held.

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brings us to our public

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comment and public testimony portion. So,

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members of the public who

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wish to participate during public

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comment must

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complete a forum and turn that forum

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into city clerk before this

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time is called

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and members of the public who wish

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participate must complete a form. And

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turn that in before that agenda

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item is called this evening. I

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have one public comment form. Only

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one. So

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if I could have brandon clark

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come to the podium? If you would state

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your name and address. You have your

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minutes, sir.

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name

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is brandon clark. I have been a buda

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resident since

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august 23rd, 2019 at 2230 intrepid

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drive

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in the meadow

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park subdivision. Good evening

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councilmembers, mayor. Brandon clark,

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I'm proud buda

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resident and we have been here since

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I

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was just before I turned 30. Purchased our

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home,

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august 23rd, two days before

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my 30th birthday which is a proud

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moment for myself, I was

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able to move out and

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own my own home without being 30 living

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with my parents

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which was pretty great for me. It

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is a great quiet neighborhood and

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we have great neighbors. It is nice

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to have a place to

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call my own. But that time was

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pretty short

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lived. August 23rd, 2023,

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at the address 750 f.m. 2001 which

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is right behind

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my backyard. We had

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progress coffee open. And, progress

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coffee was initially

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offered as a cafe and coffee shop

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which was short lived. About

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a month after they opened, they had

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switched

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to a bar. And, within that first

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day of opening, they celebrated their

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opening which is great

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with a five

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piece band. And, that band was about

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as loud as you would

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imagine it

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being at buck's backyard. So with

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that band

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playing very loud, it was something,

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where

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doing what we could. Tried calling

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the business. Got

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no response from the business. They

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we ended up

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calling the deputies for

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assistance with sound complaints. We

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initially thought we reached out to

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the

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buda police but the deputies

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which we quickly learned

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that the buda sound ordinance we had

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followed up

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with did not

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apply to progress. Apparently

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to the address, they

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fall in county. The surrounding neighbors

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all are within the city limits. Not

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sure if the council

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is aware, but for county, there is

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no sound ordinance. Buda sound ordinance,

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the ordinance for

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residential is 63 during

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the day. There is nighttime and

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die time stipulated

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for the county. There is an 85-decibel

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limit any time, any day, no matter

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what. So with no sound ordinance in

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place, there is no nighttime, no daytime

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established. For progress, they are

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able to

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come through and play music as loud

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as they

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want. It started out on

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a friday, saturday, sunday. That quickly

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turned into live music and d.j.s

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so I'm not

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sure what bars really have ded.j.s

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that play outside of a

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six street

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bar. But that's what we experienced. I

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guess

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we are looking for assistance with

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annexation to

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be

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able to bring their little bubble

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into buda city

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limit to

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abide by

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the taxes. Thank you.

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>> thank

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you. All right, the next section is

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consent agenda. They are considered routine

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by the city council

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and will be enacted by

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one motion unless

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separate discussion is required. We

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have two items on

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consent agenda. The approval of august

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5, 2025 special and

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regular city council

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meeting minutes and h2, the

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approval of the final fiscal year,

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the

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budget for the economic development

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corporation. We had a prior meeting

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about h2

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before this meeting in the public. Anyone

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on council want

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to pull one of these

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items or approve them

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as slate?

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>> mayor, can we pull h2

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real quick? But I will

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make a motion

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we approve h1.

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>> second. >> all right,

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a motion

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and a second for h1. All

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in favor say aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries on

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h1. That brings h2

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as the fiscal year budget

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for the buda edc. Ms. Storm.

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>>

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this will be very quick.

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>> okay. >>

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just want the

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rest of our community to hear

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the amazing work our edc has done

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in my experience the last

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six years

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alone under the leadership of jennifer

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storm. Many of her board members are

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incredible. And the

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things that they have brought to the

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community and continue

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to bring are absolutely

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astounding. And it will change

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buda forever. We are

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still a small town. But we do sit

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next to austin

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on the 35 corridor. So this group

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is charged with

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ringing right development here in

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terms of industry, business, so I just

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want to go on

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the record saying I appreciate y'all. And

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thank you for everything you have

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done for buda.

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>> thank you very

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much. But five of you sitting up there

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have served on

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the edc and without that guidance and

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relationship these last few years we would not

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be

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where we are today. So thank all of you

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for your support and our

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staff. And board and everything

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they do every day. So thank you

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with the recognition.

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>> with that

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I will make the motion to approve.

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>>

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we have a motion and

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a second. All in favor,

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aye. Any opposed? Page two carries. That

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brings us to our first

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and only workshop this evening so

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I

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i1 is west

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oak public improvement district. Workshop. This

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is from

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our city engineer

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and development service

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director.

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>> good evening mayor and

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council. I

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want to introduce the

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west oak development proposed off

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fm1626. They

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are here to present a public

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improvement district concept for the

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west coke development. And I will

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pass off

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the presentation

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to the development team to bruise

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themselves and

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give the workshop.

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>> good

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evening. Mr. Mayor, council members. For

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the record, my

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name is steven simsick with

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the west oak development. Our

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team is here as ms. Kennedy stated

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to give a pit workshop, but

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also to give you an update on

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where the project stands. Since we

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saw you last in december, we have

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been

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working on a lot

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of details on the project and we think

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we solved a lot of key

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elements of the project and we want

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your feedback on

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that today. And

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the public improvement district is

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a key element of

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that. We have our full

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team here. And particularly patrick

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bourn to wac you through

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what we

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are looking at

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there. So to introduce our team,

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we are the developers. , derook couldn't

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be here this evening but

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he passes on his regards. We added

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a

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few members. Corresponding with the

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pid and some other

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features of

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the project. Jeff howard, of mcclain

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and howard is

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our development counsel. I mentioned

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patrick

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bourn of sun dance analytics. He

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is our pid

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financial consultant. Elliot jones

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is on the

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residential portion of our

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project. And bryan grace remains our

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engineer but he is not available tonight.

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before

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we get to the pid, just a few update

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slides to

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let you know where

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the project stands today. West oak

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was always intended to

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be a

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key development, a walkable missioned

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use development to

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meet the comprehensive plan. 250 for

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sale town hole units

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which will increase the median

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density housing options in the area. Along

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with that, 40,000 square foot

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of retail amenities. We are protecting

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a large grove of trees,

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70 plus trees in

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the protected signature heritage categories. That

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is kind of

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embedded in a two acre park with

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5,000 feet of trails weaving through

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the project. And $19

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million of infrastructure investment

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are part of the project. We

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have other details we will

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show you, but those

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are the the key elements. I also wanted

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to state tonight, we

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listen to

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the community. To

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go back

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about 16 months march march 26 of

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2024. We

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kind

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of

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took the feedback and

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listens to the reasons

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why it wasn't

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approved. We drop it down to 2019. Folks

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said it

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was too tall, the four stories would block

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view

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of the hill country. We

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heard that for sale

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was preferable to rental. Folks also

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said

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it was too dense at 20.7 units an

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acre so we dropped that down to

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nine units

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an acre. We heard the impervious

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cover was too high. We heard that four

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drive

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throughs was too many. So we dropped

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that down to two. And plus the possibility

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of a drive through

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attach today the inline building. We

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did all of

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this by maintaining the

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amenities. Open space drops because

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open

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space is con figured

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per the

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number of residential units. We have

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a lot of enhanced landscaping along

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the

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right

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of way,

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coal springs road. Retail did drop

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from 97,000 square

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feet down to 40. And I have another

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slide I will cover

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the reasons for that. So maybe

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I'll hold on that topic for

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now. But we

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did

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that maintaining the curb. Keeping

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a

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signature restaurant building in

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the plan. As well as the inline for

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smaller shops

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and

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restaurants that

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served the community. So the details on

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the

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retail program, 40,000 square foot. 9,500

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square

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foot family concept. That's the picture

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on the

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top. 7,500

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square foot signature restaurant. That

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is the picture on the

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lower left. And we also have

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16,000 square foot inline shops. And

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two

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3,500

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square foot individual buildings.

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so one of

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the things asked of us was to look

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at some of the

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other successful projects in buda. So

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we did that and did a bit of

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a comparison to show where we stack

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up. And I think

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when you look at

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it, we

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have a really contextual project. We

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looked at the

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bend, the corner on main, and compared

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that with west oak. So if

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you look at land

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00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,240
area for example devoted to commercial. We

601
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,240
are at

602
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,240
13 acres in the middle of the pack

603
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,240
with others

604
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,240
ranging from nine

605
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,240
to 14

606
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,240
acres. In terms of building area for

607
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,240
commercial, we

608
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,240
are at 40,000 feet. Right at the middle

609
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240
of the sed, the others

610
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,240
are at 50,000,

611
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,240
48,000 or 15,000 square feet. We have

612
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,240
a nice anchor. A family concept,

613
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,240
the moon water saloon, tap

614
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,240
in golf. Same thing with tenants. Food

615
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,240
and

616
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,240
beverage related. Service for the

617
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,240
local

618
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,240
community. And then, amenities, some

619
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240
folks have a little bit

620
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,240
of amenities. The bend has a nice

621
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,240
set. We have a nice

622
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,640
set. With parks, trails,

623
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
outdoor

624
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,240
uses like pickle ball. And

625
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,240
rural heritage. We will have the 40-foot landscape

626
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,640
buffer in the front

627
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240
of our project which helps

628
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,240
a lot with curb appeal. And we have

629
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,240
a

630
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,240
lot of infrastructure we have to bring. A

631
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,240
new traffic

632
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,840
light. New collector road. Which other

633
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,240
projects don't have to do. So those

634
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240
are the metrics, curb appeal is something that

635
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,240
we

636
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240
are, that is very important. It is

637
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,240
to

638
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,240
us, the city, to tenants. This image

639
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,240
shows what you

640
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,240
can

641
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,240
do with landscaping, signage. The

642
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,240
highway. This image shows the outdoor

643
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,240
family concept. Kind

644
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,640
of embedded in the

645
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,240
trees and

646
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,240
the park to create a sense of place. This

647
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240
shows

648
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,240
the restaurant building with outdoor

649
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,640
space around it to

650
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,240
kind

651
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240
of activate the area. Along coal

652
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,240
springs road with a multiuse pass

653
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240
to create

654
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,240
a nice boulevard effect. This shows

655
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,240
how the

656
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,240
whole plan comes together

657
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,240
with the two signature buildings framing

658
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240
the

659
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840
pond and coal springs road in

660
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,240
a park like setting. So in terms

661
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240
of the

662
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,240
residential, the program is

663
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,240
215 town home units for sale. This

664
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240
help it is retail to

665
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240
have this residential

666
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,240
behind it. We dropped it down to two

667
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,240
stories. Adds to the development

668
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,640
of housing options in

669
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240
west buda. And

670
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240
more importantly, it is compatible

671
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,240
with commercial. The corridor studied

672
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,240
to

673
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,240
have commercial along the frontage. And

674
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,240
some kind

675
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,240
of

676
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,240
medium density use behind it. And

677
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,240
we

678
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,240
are

679
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640
basing the town homes

680
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240
off of harvest meadows but

681
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,240
we have

682
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,240
made some improvements. One of them

683
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,240
being

684
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,240
sure we have a 50-foot. A lot of times

685
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,240
you don't

686
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,240
have the right space for streetscape. And

687
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,240
the other thing we are

688
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,240
doing is increaseing the setback of the

689
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240
buildings of

690
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,240
25 feet from 20. To ensure that cars

691
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240
and

692
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240
trucks when they park in the

693
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,240
driveway

694
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,240
don't

695
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640
encroach on the sidewalk.

696
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,240
the traffic is

697
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240
reduced by 45%. We are able to

698
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640
maintain all of the

699
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,240
traffic improvements that

700
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
total $6 million. One of each entrance

701
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,240
of safety. The new extension of coal

702
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,240
springs

703
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,240
road. These are public roads we build

704
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,640
and dedicate to the

705
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,240
city. These

706
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,240
all kind of go along, we

707
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,240
are

708
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,240
building a portion of

709
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,240
that. Parks trails and open space,

710
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,240
5,000 feet,

711
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,240
trails through the projects. Two acres of

712
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,640
open space will be

713
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
accessible to the public. And

714
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240
a

715
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240
one acre

716
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240
private amenity. So now to infrastructure. This

717
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
slide shows how west okay kind

718
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,240
of fulfills the puzzle. The colony

719
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,240
and the reserve

720
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,240
are

721
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,240
bringing roads, traffic, infrastructure,

722
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,240
as well

723
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240
as water and waste water utilities

724
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,240
all

725
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,240
the way to

726
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,240
the f.m. 1626 corridor and west oak

727
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,240
completes

728
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,440
that. The last piece of the puzzle.

729
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640
so there is a

730
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,240
lot of detail on

731
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,240
this slide that got cut off. And I

732
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240
didn't intend to

733
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,240
go through every number on this page anyway. But,

734
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,240
the idea was

735
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240
to show you all the categories of

736
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,240
infrastructure that we are bringing. Right? So,

737
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240
we

738
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
are bringing

739
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,240
what utility lines east of f.m. 1626. That is the blue and

740
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240
orange on the page. We are also up

741
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,240
sizing utilities through west oak. And

742
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,240
that's going

743
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240
west, south, and north. So above and

744
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240
beyond what we are bringing

745
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,240
to serve our project. We are up

746
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240
sizing to kind of connect to future

747
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,240
development around

748
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,240
us. We are also creating a water loop. So

749
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,240
that again, other developments can

750
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,240
tie

751
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,240
in fairly easily. Then we have road

752
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,240
and traffic

753
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,240
infrastructure

754
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,240
we have talked about already. Then

755
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,240
there are some categories of

756
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,240
other including, you know, the water

757
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,240
quality pond and

758
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,240
water treatment. And then, a number

759
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,240
of items are

760
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,240
going to the residential infrastructure. Some

761
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640
of which is public.

762
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240
those become public infrastructure. It's

763
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,240
a little unfortunate this slide didn't come through and we

764
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,640
had some of this

765
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,240
information

766
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
we provided to staff.

767
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240
some of

768
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,240
these categories we are proposing

769
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,840
impact fee credits for. These items

770
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,240
are for the cip. These

771
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240
projects

772
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240
you would have built otherwise. We

773
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,240
have a number that is applied for

774
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,240
the pid

775
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,240
that patrick is going

776
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240
to explain. And I thought I could

777
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
read that off the

778
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
screen

779
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,240
but

780
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,240
social security not there.

781
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,240
>> and

782
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,240
steven, I see what you see on the

783
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,240
screen. But the link on

784
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,240
the website, it shows the full picture.

785
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,240
>> so you guys are able to see

786
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,240
it.

787
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,240
>> I'm looking at both all

788
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240
the time. But, we do see that is

789
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,240
$19

790
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,240
million. 2.6

791
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,240
is impact fees. Funded

792
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,240
by pid, 7.8 million. It is on the

793
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
bottom of

794
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,240
the screen you can't see, what the developer

795
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,640
pays. If you really

796
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
want to, we can

797
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,240
kind of switch it and go and make

798
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240
it. I think this is

799
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,240
an important page

800
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,240
is what I'm getting to.

801
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,240
>> if you are

802
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,240
able to

803
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,240
do

804
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,240
that,

805
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,240
that would be great.

806
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,240
>> but

807
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,240
as we work on that, you can keep moving

808
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640
forward. We will find

809
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,240
it on the city's website. It is on

810
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,240
the presentation for us. So

811
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,240
we have it.

812
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240
>> I

813
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,240
think it

814
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,240
is a different slide actually.

815
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,240
>>

816
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,240
is

817
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,240
there a different file we can call

818
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
up

819
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240
up? , is that what you

820
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,240
are saying?

821
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240
>> she actually went back to the

822
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,240
power point

823
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,240
slide.

824
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,240
>>

825
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,240
these don't line

826
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,240
up.

827
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,240
>> okay. >> there you

828
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,240
go, that's the full picture. We entered

829
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240
comments

830
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,240
like the developers

831
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,240
posted to

832
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,240
build this infrastructure. We also heard

833
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240
comments like be

834
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640
careful about asking for

835
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,240
incentives. So this was our plan to drag

836
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,240
it ourselves. The

837
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,240
city doesn't have the contract to

838
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,240
do it. They don't have to manage the

839
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,240
construction

840
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,240
of any of these items. And again,

841
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,240
we are doing this

842
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:10,240
without asking y'all to write any

843
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,240
kind

844
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,240
of checks for these things. The way

845
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:15,240
we do

846
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,240
that again,

847
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,640
to cover that 19.3, there's 2.6

848
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,240
that

849
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:27,640
come from impact fees. 7.8

850
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,240
come from the pid. Patrick and jeff

851
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,240
and

852
00:34:31,240 --> 00:34:33,240
else yont can

853
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:34,240
explain this better than I. That is

854
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,240
like a lower

855
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,240
cost of debt for us. That is paid

856
00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,240
for by the

857
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,240
project or paid for by residence. We

858
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,240
are actually going

859
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:45,240
to

860
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,240
attach that

861
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:52,240
to the retail. Administrative cost,

862
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,240
all of that is

863
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,240
paid for out of the pid funding and we pay

864
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:57,240
the rest out

865
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:58,240
of our project finance. This is our

866
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,240
way to

867
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,640
bring all of this

868
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,240
infrastructure. And all the benefits. Basically

869
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,240
having

870
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,240
us drag it

871
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,640
and run the project.

872
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,240
we can come

873
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,240
back to this. But the other thing

874
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,240
that we could

875
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:22,240
ask is you know, why should buda do

876
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,240
this. We thought it would be

877
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,240
good to lay out all of the benefits

878
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:27,240
of

879
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,240
west oak on one page. And, go through

880
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,240
that before we

881
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:34,240
get into the pid. So, the benefits

882
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,640
of west oak again,

883
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:39,240
the $19 million of

884
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,640
infrastructure question just mentioned. 8.6

885
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,240
of these

886
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,240
are public utilities. Traffic improvements. 3.3 of these

887
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,240
are already on

888
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,240
the

889
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,240
cip or the

890
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,240
transportation master plan which

891
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:01,240
would lower your cost. They generate

892
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,240
fiscal and economic benefits. $88million

893
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:05,240
investment in the corridor. This generates

894
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,240
$10

895
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,240
million of positive fiscal impacts

896
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,240
over 20 years to buda. This is

897
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:11,240
to the city of buda. There's also

898
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:12,240
benefit to the

899
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,240
county and the school district. This

900
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,240
is 10 million

901
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,240
directly to buda. It will

902
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,240
generate 40 plus permanent

903
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,240
jobs. And the zoning benefits. We

904
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,640
designed this to be

905
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,640
the realization of the

906
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,240
corridor as we mentioned. And we are

907
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,240
bringing 40,000 square foot

908
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,240
of retail. And

909
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:38,240
diversifying the housing stock. And

910
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,240
I think

911
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,240
in some,

912
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:44,240
we are trying to just ask for as little

913
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,240
as

914
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,240
possible and deliver as much as possible

915
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:50,240
so we really trimmed down our ask. We

916
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,240
worked with staff to

917
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,240
eliminate as many zoning modifications

918
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,640
as possible. The old

919
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:59,240
plan had a request of

920
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,640
$5 million of incentives with

921
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,240
edc. We

922
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:05,240
have taken that out. So we have tried today lower

923
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:06,240
the ask and keep

924
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,240
all the benefits and we are asking

925
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,240
y'all

926
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,240
to

927
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,240
look at this comprehensively. Hopefully, you look

928
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:20,240
at it like we do as a good deal for all.

929
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,240
so I think I will turn

930
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,240
it over to patrick to go over the

931
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,240
pid. Unless you

932
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,240
want to

933
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,240
stop to talk about the infrastructure

934
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,240
now.

935
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,240
>>

936
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,240
let's go ahead and do the

937
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,240
pid. We have

938
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:39,240
a couple now. So we do understand

939
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,240
the terminology manufacture than we

940
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:41,240
did. Let's put the whole package together

941
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,240
and

942
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,240
we will

943
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:48,240
circle

944
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,240
back with questions.

945
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:50,240
>> mayor, member

946
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,240
of council, I appreciate your

947
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240
time. This evening to allow us to

948
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,240
go through this

949
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,240
presentation

950
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,240
with you. My name

951
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,240
is patrick horne. I want to reintroduce

952
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,240
myself to you and thank

953
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,240
you for your time. I know that you

954
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:06,240
have been through the pid process

955
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,240
before so I don't want to go through

956
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:09,240
this in a

957
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,240
super amount of details. But I did

958
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,240
think it would be beneficial to at

959
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,240
least

960
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,240
touch iten from an

961
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,240
overall view as to the way public

962
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:22,240
improvement districts

963
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,240
work. As

964
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,240
we

965
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,240
look at

966
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,240
the public improvement district, the

967
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,240
way it works putting it in a nutshell

968
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:35,240
is that the developer requests the city

969
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,240
to

970
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,240
place a lien on their property. That

971
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:44,240
lien is then repaid over a period

972
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,240
of time, typically

973
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,240
30 years. The city using those repayment

974
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,240
that's are coming

975
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,240
over, coming back over that 30 year

976
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,240
period is able

977
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,240
to issue tax exempt bonds. Which

978
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,240
provide a lower interest rate, a lower

979
00:38:58,240 --> 00:38:59,240
cost of financing, those bonds are

980
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,240
then

981
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,240
repaid by the property owners, repaid

982
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,240
by those

983
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,240
30 years of payments. Those payments

984
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,240
are only made by

985
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,240
property owners within the district of

986
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,240
this pid which would be coterminous

987
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,240
with the boundaries

988
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,240
of the project itself. No payments

989
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:16,640
would be placed on

990
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:19,240
any property outside

991
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,240
the boundaries of this project to

992
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,240
repay

993
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,240
the tax exempt bonds being issued

994
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,240
by the city. As we

995
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,240
look at this, just one of the things

996
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,240
I like

997
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:31,240
to remind councils and members

998
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,240
of the public is that this lien, these

999
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,240
pids have no impact

1000
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,240
on property outside the boundaries

1001
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,240
of the pid

1002
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,240
itself at the project. That lower

1003
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,240
interest rate, that

1004
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:41,240
lower cost of financing is what provides

1005
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:43,240
the ability to

1006
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:44,240
put in the amount of infrastructure

1007
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,240
that was

1008
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,240
being

1009
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,240
discussed through this presentation.

1010
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,240
that infrastructure is the

1011
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,240
lardest hurdle to get any development moving

1012
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,240
forward particularly when you are

1013
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,240
looking

1014
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:59,240
at a smaller development with large

1015
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,240
amounts of off

1016
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:03,240
side

1017
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,240
infrastructure. Bringing in regional

1018
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:05,240
infrastructure. It is critical to

1019
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,240
maintain

1020
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,240
the lowest cost financing

1021
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,240
as possible. The pid proceeds can't

1022
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:13,240
be used for

1023
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,240
private improvements. They can't be

1024
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,240
used for vertical. They can only be

1025
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,240
used

1026
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:20,240
for public infrastructure dedicated,

1027
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,240
conveyed or leased

1028
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:25,640
for the benefit of

1029
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,240
the city. We talked about the

1030
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,240
type of bonds, not rated. These bonds

1031
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,240
are in no way

1032
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,240
on able grace by the city. They

1033
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,240
are only secured by the property that

1034
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,240
is within

1035
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,240
the boundaries of the pid. Though

1036
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,240
the ponds are issued

1037
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,240
by tax exempt bonds by the city, the

1038
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,240
city

1039
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,240
and its

1040
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:47,240
residents have no responsibility whatsoever. It was

1041
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,240
only secured by

1042
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,240
the property within

1043
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,240
the boundaries of the pid.

1044
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:02,240
we insist the city create a you said

1045
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,240
p lick improvement district to help

1046
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,240
fund the cost for a

1047
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,240
portion

1048
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,640
of that public infrastructure.

1049
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,240
did that move forward? The way we

1050
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:23,240
are looking to propose this public

1051
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:25,240
improvement district, is that

1052
00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:26,240
first of all, all costs associated

1053
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,240
by the pid will be

1054
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,240
paid by the pid. The city would not

1055
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,240
come out of pocket for

1056
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,240
any

1057
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,240
of the creation costs, or out of pocket

1058
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:37,240
for any

1059
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:38,240
of the bond issuance cost. It would

1060
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,240
be paid for by the pid and

1061
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,640
not be paid by

1062
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:47,240
any residents of the city. I know

1063
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,240
you had experience

1064
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,240
with other pids in the past. We anticipate

1065
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,240
that this

1066
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,240
would be

1067
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,240
a

1068
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,640
single pid bond issue.

1069
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,240
to help

1070
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,640
assist with the construction

1071
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:13,240
financing for

1072
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,240
the public improvements only. We are

1073
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,640
currently looking at a

1074
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,240
tax rate of 299 per $100 of

1075
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,240
assessed

1076
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:29,640
values on the project.

1077
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,240
one of

1078
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,240
the things we are looking

1079
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,240
at, this pid would be a level structure. It

1080
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,240
would remain

1081
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,240
approximately level the entire term

1082
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:42,240
of that third year period. No escalation. Though

1083
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,240
home

1084
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:46,240
values and values make increase over

1085
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,240
time, the payments would remain essentially

1086
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,240
level and not

1087
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:53,240
inflate or escalate with the

1088
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,240
value of the homes. One of the other

1089
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,240
things

1090
00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,240
we

1091
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,240
wanted

1092
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,640
to point out here,

1093
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,240
annexing in the city

1094
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,240
boundaries. They are voluntarily taking

1095
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,240
on the

1096
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:21,840
city tax break. In an effort

1097
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,640
to keep them competitive.

1098
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,240
we are

1099
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,240
not requesting this. As mentioned

1100
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,240
by steven, we are not requesting

1101
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,240
the benefits

1102
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,240
from the city. The pid installments

1103
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,240
would

1104
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,240
be paid

1105
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,240
by the

1106
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:45,240
property owners. As we move through

1107
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,240
process, the

1108
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,240
request would be to work, continue

1109
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,240
working

1110
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,240
with

1111
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,240
the

1112
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,640
city and their staff.

1113
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:02,240
as

1114
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,240
we go through each one of those steps,

1115
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,240
approve will

1116
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,240
be required by city council. As

1117
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,240
we provide a pid petition. As we

1118
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,240
go forward with hopefully the creation

1119
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:14,240
of the pid. And ultimately,

1120
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,240
the issuance of the bonds. All of

1121
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,240
those are different steps where

1122
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:21,240
we would be working with

1123
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,240
staff. The whole time. And continually

1124
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,240
providing feedback and receiving approval

1125
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,240
from the

1126
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:27,240
city council prior to moving forward

1127
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,240
with

1128
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,240
any

1129
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,240
of those those steps. That

1130
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,240
kind

1131
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,240
of

1132
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,640
wraps up the overview.

1133
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,240
>> thank you. Thank you patrick. We

1134
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:57,240
will,

1135
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,240
questions

1136
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:01,240
from council? We have a few.

1137
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:02,240
>> thank

1138
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,240
you

1139
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,240
very much for the presentation. I

1140
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:05,240
have a couple of

1141
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:06,240
questions about the infrastructure. So,

1142
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:07,240
if we could go back to the slide where

1143
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,240
I think you

1144
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,240
outlined

1145
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,640
some of the items.

1146
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:21,240
so we are talking about

1147
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,240
a pid to cover the

1148
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,240
utility

1149
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,240
lines. The regional water loop. Roads. What

1150
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,240
else is in here? Residential infrastructure. So,

1151
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:36,240
on a typical bill, those are things

1152
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,240
that

1153
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:41,240
you would

1154
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,240
normally cover half.

1155
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:44,240
>> it is

1156
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,240
common for residential projects when

1157
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,240
you have this much infrastructure,

1158
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,240
that you do something with a pid or

1159
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,240
a mud. We were trying

1160
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,240
to

1161
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:55,240
keep this presentation a little we

1162
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:57,240
didn't

1163
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:58,240
want to pound you with a lot of detail

1164
00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:59,240
but we

1165
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:00,240
have something we can provide where

1166
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,240
we

1167
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,240
looked at west oak versus the other

1168
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,640
pids and muds that

1169
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:09,240
had been done in buda. So

1170
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,240
like although

1171
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,240
we

1172
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,240
are a little smaller. That is

1173
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,240
similar

1174
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,240
to projects like

1175
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,240
persimmon

1176
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,240
that had done something similar. If

1177
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,240
there is a

1178
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:30,240
lower amount of investment, you might

1179
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,240
not need

1180
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:36,240
a pid or a mud. We were

1181
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:38,640
able to spread the

1182
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:42,240
infrastructure across the project. But when

1183
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,240
question drop the

1184
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:48,240
number of units, the project

1185
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,240
doesn't work without a pid or

1186
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:50,240
a mud structure.

1187
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:51,240
>> okay. So then,

1188
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:54,240
my follow-up question would be

1189
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,240
is if you weren't

1190
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:57,240
granted a pid, how would you finance

1191
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:58,240
this?

1192
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,240
>> I don't

1193
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,240
think we can. I don't know

1194
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,240
how we would do it. Maybe a further answer to

1195
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,640
your question is there

1196
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,240
are some

1197
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,240
project that's

1198
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,240
don't have to build the extension

1199
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:14,240
of

1200
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:15,240
a public road. Maybe they have water

1201
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:18,240
and sewer to their property

1202
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,240
and don't have

1203
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:22,240
as many off site. It is really on

1204
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,240
a site by

1205
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,240
site basis, whether you have

1206
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,240
all of those

1207
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:31,240
infrastructure items. And how much

1208
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,240
you spend

1209
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,240
over your total project. Did I get

1210
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:38,240
that right as

1211
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,240
to why the residential projects need

1212
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,240
the

1213
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,240
pids and the

1214
00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:50,240
muds?

1215
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,240
>> good

1216
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:55,240
evening council. Elliot jones. I heard his

1217
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:58,240
answer. I guess if I were to

1218
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,240
add anything,

1219
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,240
how would

1220
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:04,240
you finance it? The reason behind

1221
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,240
the

1222
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,240
request is really what he

1223
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:10,240
had described that it provides low

1224
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,240
cost financing alternative that allows

1225
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:15,240
you

1226
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:18,640
to put more infrastructure

1227
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:20,240
in because of the access to

1228
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:21,240
the tax exempt debt. Basically it

1229
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:22,240
is lower interest rate. The effect

1230
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,240
of

1231
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,840
the pid, it is money that

1232
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:31,240
has to be paid back. It is borne by

1233
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:33,240
taxpayers to the extent

1234
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:34,240
that someone will buy and pay a town

1235
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,240
home. What they can

1236
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:37,240
pay for it, it has to be offset by selling

1237
00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,240
the town

1238
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,240
home for less for example. To

1239
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:43,240
make the same payment. So, but since it

1240
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,240
is a cost of debt

1241
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:49,240
that is lower than what

1242
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,240
you get, just raising debt

1243
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:52,240
or, traditional debt financing through

1244
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:53,240
a

1245
00:48:53,240 --> 00:48:55,240
bank. And equity, it improves the

1246
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,640
project economics to the

1247
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,240
extent to allow you to fit more infrastructure

1248
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,240
in. So

1249
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:05,240
sorry

1250
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,240
for that explanation. But, that's

1251
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:08,240
all I got.

1252
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:09,240
>> no worries. I have a

1253
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:10,240
couple more real quick questions. So,

1254
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,240
what's

1255
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,240
the average square foot you

1256
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:19,240
are looking as for these 219

1257
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:20,240
town homes?

1258
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:22,240
>> they

1259
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,240
are

1260
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,240
about 2,000 square feet.

1261
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,240
>> what

1262
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240
what is

1263
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240
your average price?

1264
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:32,240
>> right around 400,000.

1265
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:40,240
>> do you think that is viable in the

1266
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,240
market right

1267
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:44,240
now?

1268
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,240
>> we do. This is

1269
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,240
an

1270
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:49,240
attractive sub market. There's been

1271
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:50,240
successful town home project ins the

1272
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:51,240
area

1273
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,240
and they have resold well. When they

1274
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,240
go back on

1275
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,240
the market,

1276
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,240
they are selling very well and there

1277
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,240
is not a lot of that product here so

1278
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,840
I think it will be attractive.

1279
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:10,240
>> okay. I'm going to trust that

1280
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,240
you are good with that. Because I'm thinking

1281
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:12,240
at 2,000

1282
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,240
square feet, we have homes right now

1283
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:15,240
in neighborhoods

1284
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:17,240
that are pretty well established that

1285
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:18,240
are 2600

1286
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,240
square feet and they are not selling

1287
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,240
for

1288
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,240
400,000. I get these are new. I get

1289
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:25,240
that you will sell it

1290
00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:27,240
as a

1291
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:29,240
new

1292
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,240
development. But just keeping in mind

1293
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:32,240
once we have this workshop, we

1294
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,240
have having these conversations, coming

1295
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:37,240
back to us will be a whole other

1296
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:39,240
conversation if we have

1297
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,240
to revisit this because that will

1298
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,240
be your gap. Can you sell

1299
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,240
it for the price you are selling it

1300
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,240
for. If we approve a pid,

1301
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:46,240
how high can you go on the amount

1302
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,240
you can charge

1303
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,240
on that

1304
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,240
in order to recoop something. And

1305
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,240
whether or not financially it will

1306
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,240
work

1307
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:57,240
for you guys to build

1308
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:58,240
this. So I am going to trust that

1309
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,240
you are good with

1310
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:01,240
that.

1311
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:02,240
>> we are good with it. And

1312
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,240
the

1313
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,240
project moves

1314
00:51:07,240 --> 00:51:09,240
forward

1315
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,240
along with the pid the

1316
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,240
other financing decisions are made at

1317
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:15,240
the same

1318
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:17,240
time we initiate the

1319
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,240
pid funding. We wouldn't go forward

1320
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:20,240
with the pid if we weren't going to

1321
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,240
sell

1322
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,240
the units. It wasn't as

1323
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,240
easy

1324
00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:28,240
as it was in 2020. In 2021. It is

1325
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,240
a little harder

1326
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,240
in the housing market. But

1327
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,240
that is why we need

1328
00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,240
this. We have engineered this as

1329
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,240
far

1330
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,640
as we could go.

1331
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:54,240
>> affordability is an

1332
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,240
issue. They are looking for communities

1333
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:57,240
south of

1334
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:58,240
boston and affordability. If we build 219

1335
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,240
town

1336
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,240
homes

1337
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:05,240
at 200 square foot each. Maybe two

1338
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:07,240
or three

1339
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:08,240
or four could squeeze in there and

1340
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,240
$400,000 is

1341
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,240
a lot of

1342
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,240
money for 2,000 square feet. I don't

1343
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:15,240
want

1344
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:16,240
this to be performative. I want to

1345
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,240
make

1346
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,240
sure you guys have buttenned your

1347
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,240
belts and are coming at

1348
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,240
us

1349
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,240
with

1350
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,240
what's going to be. No bait and switch.

1351
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:30,240
>>

1352
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,240
no, we

1353
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,640
are not bait and

1354
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,240
switching. We believe

1355
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,240
this project works.

1356
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,240
>> questions? Comments? Mr.

1357
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:39,240
smith?

1358
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:40,240
>> probably more comments

1359
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,240
than questions. Thank you for being

1360
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,240
here tonight. And

1361
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:44,240
all the presents for providing an

1362
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,240
update. This project

1363
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,240
has

1364
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:50,240
been going around and around. Trust

1365
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:51,240
has

1366
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,840
been mentioned. Trust will verify. When

1367
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,840
I hear words like project doesn't

1368
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,240
work, we have a developer

1369
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,240
in front of us. I can

1370
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:05,240
respect that. I absolutely can. We all

1371
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:07,240
work to make money to

1372
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:08,240
support our families. I totally get

1373
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,240
that. We

1374
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,240
have no idea. We are working blindly

1375
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,240
here on what

1376
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,240
that number truly is. We start talking

1377
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:18,240
about public financing, like pids,

1378
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,240
to change what's out

1379
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:26,240
there now, into a medium density residential

1380
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,240
development, and we are

1381
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:29,240
in a year right now where tax rates

1382
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,240
are going

1383
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:35,240
up. Home values are going down. Revenues

1384
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:38,240
are tight on the city

1385
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,240
side. And we look at a $400,000

1386
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,240
town

1387
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,240
home and a

1388
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:47,240
potential 353500 annual additional

1389
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,240
cost. If this trend

1390
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:50,240
continues that will squeeze the homeowners

1391
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,240
in the future. It will squeeze them,

1392
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:53,240
it will squeeze us as far as what

1393
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:55,640
we can expect a

1394
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,240
homeowner to pay in the form

1395
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,240
of all kinds of taxes. Whether it

1396
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,840
is school bonds, city boppeds, property

1397
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:07,240
taxes. It just

1398
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,240
need to

1399
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:13,240
be perfect. And the 17

1400
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:14,240
months I believe you referenced earlier. A

1401
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:15,240
bait

1402
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,240
and switch was mentioned. That is

1403
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:18,240
what we are treading here

1404
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,240
on this development. We saw something

1405
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:21,240
when times were, looked

1406
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,240
like it was workable and every time

1407
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:25,240
it came back, it was

1408
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:26,240
a little bit different. And this one,

1409
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,240
the

1410
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,240
financial piece of it is already a

1411
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,240
challenge. It

1412
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,240
is a

1413
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,240
challenge for you guys

1414
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:38,240
to make the project work. We see the challenge

1415
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,240
it will be on the homeowners.

1416
00:54:41,240 --> 00:54:44,240
that is something we will

1417
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,240
collectively

1418
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:50,240
have to work out. I would like to

1419
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:52,240
make

1420
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,840
a recommendation side by side. This

1421
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:57,240
speak to

1422
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,240
that trust factor. At the beginning

1423
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:02,240
of the presentation it was

1424
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,240
a side by side comparison

1425
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,240
that favored

1426
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,240
okay let's do this. But then, when

1427
00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:10,240
councilmember williams was asking

1428
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,240
about infrastructure, it gets tough

1429
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,240
to compare

1430
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,240
side by side

1431
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:23,240
right? So setting a precedent comparing

1432
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,240
the sites,

1433
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:31,400
just not a good look. So back to

1434
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,240
the

1435
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:39,440
slide I mentioned. The bend. No residential

1436
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,240
component whatsoever. The shops at

1437
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:43,640
garlic creek. Quarter and

1438
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,240
main. You

1439
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,240
have this mixed model

1440
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,240
okay? My interpretation of you can't

1441
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,240
compare side by side. Those

1442
00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:56,240
are not good comparisons. They

1443
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:00,240
are sales tax generating

1444
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,240
commercial retail development. If

1445
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,240
we are going to compare, I want to

1446
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,240
compare

1447
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:08,240
something apples to apples which you

1448
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,640
guys are willing to

1449
00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:13,240
do it. Buda

1450
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,240
is in a position where

1451
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:17,240
every project is unique. Every project should

1452
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:18,240
bring something to the

1453
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:19,240
community especially when we are going to

1454
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,240
roll out a pid program when we know

1455
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:21,240
the resident ins

1456
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:23,240
the future will be wedged between

1457
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,640
paying what they are

1458
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,240
required to pay and watching

1459
00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:30,240
their

1460
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,240
other tax rates fluctuate. That will

1461
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,240
be a challenge

1462
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,240
so we have to nail this. It will be

1463
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,240
amazing. We said this

1464
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,240
in our previous pids. They are not

1465
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:42,240
just

1466
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,240
there for regular infrastructure. They

1467
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,240
are there for amazing

1468
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,240
blow us away. Which we saw from the

1469
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:48,240
very first

1470
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,240
presentation. I was sitting right

1471
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:52,240
here. The drone

1472
00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:55,240
flying over,

1473
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:56,240
the whole thing. It was amazing. On

1474
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,240
board. Then

1475
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:00,240
things changed and we were not on

1476
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,240
board. I

1477
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:04,640
love the workshop environment

1478
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:07,240
because it allow

1479
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,240
this feedback. I'm nowhere near making

1480
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,240
a commitment

1481
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:11,240
on anything. Is there is nowhere you

1482
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:13,240
cannot squeeze the homeowners,

1483
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:14,240
take on responsibility for the development

1484
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,240
itself and I'm not

1485
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,240
talking about the oversized public

1486
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,240
infrastructure, I understand the impact

1487
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,240
for

1488
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,240
your credit. Not talking about that. We

1489
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,240
are asking you

1490
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,240
guys to oversize. Where you wouldn't

1491
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,240
need

1492
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,240
to. Not even worried about that. That's

1493
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,240
on

1494
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,240
us. But if you guys can lessen the

1495
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,240
future burden

1496
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,240
on these future home buyers, our future

1497
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240
citizens that

1498
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,240
will come here, you can

1499
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,240
increase your sales tax generators.

1500
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,240
you can very much further down on

1501
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,240
the list behind

1502
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,640
those two. But, make

1503
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,240
it unique. I

1504
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,240
love the buildings further to

1505
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,640
the south, southeast, the

1506
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,240
buildings on the south. When you creep

1507
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,240
back toward the

1508
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,240
north. I didn't see any elevation

1509
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
on those so I don't know what

1510
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,240
it looks like from

1511
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,240
the road. It was all aerial on those

1512
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,240
but we got

1513
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,240
nice elevation on those other buildings

1514
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,240
and they look

1515
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,240
amazing. If we

1516
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,240
can match the north side

1517
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,240
I think we are getting closer to a wow factor,

1518
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,240
I will leave

1519
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,240
that up to you guys. But

1520
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,240
feel

1521
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,240
free. It is a workshop. There wasn't

1522
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,240
really a question in there. These

1523
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,240
were

1524
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,240
more observations and comments.

1525
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,240
>> councilmember

1526
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
smith,

1527
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,240
I appreciate the

1528
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,240
feedback. That

1529
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
is what this is for. There is a lot

1530
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,240
in what you

1531
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,240
said. So I want to

1532
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,240
respond. Maybe first on

1533
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,240
the trust thing. We just can't do

1534
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,640
what we showed you

1535
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,240
back then. We have been trying

1536
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,240
to put this

1537
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,240
together. It ends up being,

1538
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,240
I'll call it a contextual

1539
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,240
project. Something that is similar

1540
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:09,240
to the other retail projects and I

1541
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,240
will

1542
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,240
get to the side by side

1543
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,240
thing in a minute. I asked

1544
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,240
the staff some questions on this. Like

1545
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,240
what

1546
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,240
should this look like. We went back

1547
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,240
on

1548
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,840
forth on rural heritage. And they

1549
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,240
talked about some examples, circle

1550
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,240
c onslaughter lane was one. That

1551
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,240
is mentioned in the comprehensive plan. So

1552
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,240
I took

1553
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,240
a look at that. You have setbacks

1554
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,240
for trees

1555
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,240
which

1556
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,240
I have. We said okay. We were resisting a

1557
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240
bit

1558
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,240
on rural

1559
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,240
tore damage. It is very

1560
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,240
specific. It is

1561
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,240
very specific about design criteria. We

1562
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,240
have

1563
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,240
a few tweaks for rural heritage. But

1564
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,240
we said okay, is it

1565
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,240
okay if

1566
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,240
we do

1567
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,240
that? Kind of yeah. So, I get it

1568
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,240
on the wow factor. It is just that

1569
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,240
is

1570
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,240
not something that we can do so

1571
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,240
we are trying to

1572
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,840
do something that is contextual. And

1573
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,240
when you drive around, you see

1574
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,240
a

1575
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,240
lot

1576
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,240
of stone. You see that

1577
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,240
rule character. And we have, we are

1578
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,240
trying to manage how much detail we

1579
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,240
gave you all. But we have

1580
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
elevations of the other buildings. They

1581
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,640
match up with the

1582
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,240
udc. They match up

1583
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,240
with rural heritage. So, we are happy

1584
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,240
to do

1585
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,240
that. And, we wanted a mix. An inline

1586
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,240
building

1587
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,240
looks like an inline building but

1588
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,240
if you

1589
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,240
look at circle c, they are like inline

1590
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,240
buildings. They are inline buildings

1591
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,240
with stone. With a lot

1592
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,240
of landscaping around them. So

1593
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,240
we can do that. And when you mentioned

1594
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240
the side by

1595
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,240
side,

1596
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,840
the infrastructure thing is kind of

1597
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,240
a tricky thing to look

1598
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,240
at. Someone said how much infrastructure

1599
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,240
went into those? And

1600
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,240
we just didn't know. We put the presentation

1601
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,240
together and we have to do it

1602
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,240
like a week out to give it to

1603
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,240
you all. So we can look at that and

1604
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,240
see how much did they

1605
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,240
have to put in for that? Did they

1606
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,240
do

1607
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,240
a traffic

1608
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,240
light or new roads? So, it is kind

1609
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,240
of case by case. You

1610
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,240
know. We have another analysis

1611
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,240
and looked at projects and

1612
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,240
why they needed pid. So we can go

1613
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,240
through that with staff and you all. But

1614
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,640
we are trying to

1615
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,240
get over that hurdle of where we

1616
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240
were. I have to do some

1617
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,240
math. Two

1618
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,240
years

1619
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,240
ago, something like that. We are trying

1620
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,240
to

1621
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:09,240
put the pieces together. Responding

1622
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,240
to staff

1623
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,240
comment. And to the zoning and then,

1624
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,240
putting together

1625
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,240
the financing of it. Right? So, we

1626
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,240
are happy

1627
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,240
to kind of walk staff through that

1628
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,240
a little bit more if that's

1629
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,640
the best way to

1630
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,240
do it. So, we hear you. I think we

1631
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,240
have

1632
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,240
addressed it. It is just sometimes,

1633
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,240
we haven't had a chance to talk about

1634
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,240
it. And you know, we have gone through

1635
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,640
a lot of detail

1636
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,240
in the past nine months with this. And

1637
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,240
it

1638
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,240
is hard to get it all in here. Maybe

1639
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,240
after

1640
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,240
this session, we'll talk with staff

1641
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,640
about what's the best

1642
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,240
way to get you folks that information to

1643
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,240
get the

1644
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,240
answers to those questions.

1645
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,240
>> more questions? >> one more question

1646
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,240
on the

1647
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,240
financial side. And

1648
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,240
I appreciate

1649
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,240
that most of what I was going

1650
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,240
to ask was by smith and horne-williams.

1651
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,240
>>

1652
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,240
: would

1653
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:12,240
they be charged the same $3,500 that

1654
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,240
would be attach

1655
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,240
today the retail units or

1656
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,240
is that split

1657
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,240
up differently? Would that make it

1658
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,240
lower for

1659
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,240
homeowners?

1660
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,240
>> the way we take a look

1661
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,240
at that. By law, payments have to

1662
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,240
be allocated in equitable

1663
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,240
fashion based on the benefit they

1664
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,840
receive from the public infrastructure. When

1665
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,240
we were looking at the $3,500 on average we

1666
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,240
thought just so you guys

1667
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,240
could get an idea. When we

1668
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,240
say

1669
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,240
88 cents per assessed value, so the way

1670
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,240
you look at

1671
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,240
it from the retail, the retailers

1672
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,240
would be paying

1673
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,240
their fair share based on

1674
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,640
their estimated value as

1675
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,640
well. Of 88 cents per

1676
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,240
assessed value. That way it

1677
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,240
is being equitable. Consistent with

1678
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,240
the legal requirements that we have

1679
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,240
to

1680
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,240
pursue when

1681
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,240
creating a public improvement district.

1682
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,240
>> okay. >>

1683
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,240
we just don't have that

1684
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,240
on a per unit basis.

1685
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,240
>> just a couple of

1686
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,440
other comments and stuff. I was remembering

1687
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,240
back

1688
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,240
to the last workshop. This is, you have the

1689
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,240
last piece

1690
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240
of the puzzle

1691
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,240
for this whole corridor. To

1692
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,240
me this is really setting

1693
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,240
a

1694
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,240
precedent for that corridor. I want

1695
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,640
this to have that

1696
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,640
wow factor, we want

1697
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,240
to get it right. I know there is that

1698
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,240
presentation to the community at the

1699
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,240
garlic creek

1700
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,240
center tomorrow. I

1701
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,240
was hoping that would happen before

1702
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,240
this workshop. I was interested in

1703
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,240
the

1704
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,240
feedback from the community. I will

1705
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,240
be

1706
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,240
following up on that. And things that I

1707
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,240
think

1708
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,240
this was very

1709
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,240
financially based, this workshop. But

1710
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,240
concerns I had from the

1711
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,240
last one, you know, turning out or

1712
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,240
not having a way to get

1713
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,240
to that light from the brewery,

1714
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,240
I still see

1715
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,240
that as

1716
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,240
a problem for me. And

1717
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,240
then, I saw

1718
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,240
you did an extra five feet of setback

1719
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,240
on the

1720
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,240
driveway to accommodate large

1721
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,240
trucks for parking in the front. I

1722
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,240
know parking in the street, parking

1723
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,240
in stuff is a problem

1724
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,240
in

1725
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,240
a lot

1726
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,240
of communities. 2,000 square

1727
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,240
foot. Family of four. I see

1728
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,240
two vehicles in the driveway

1729
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,240
and that quickly becomes more. I saw a thing

1730
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,240
there there was

1731
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,240
parking in the back to keep the parking

1732
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,640
in the streets better

1733
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,240
and a cleaner look up front. That

1734
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,240
is something that I know has been

1735
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,240
talked

1736
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,240
about. But something that I would

1737
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,240
look

1738
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,240
at.

1739
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,240
>> so, we have

1740
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,840
extra parking kind of dispersed through

1741
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,240
the

1742
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,240
project

1743
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:31,240
about 30 spaces. Throughout the project

1744
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,240
each unit will

1745
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,240
have a garage. Even if folks put

1746
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,240
things in the garage,

1747
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,240
they'll have two. Space for two car

1748
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,640
ins the driveway. And

1749
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240
some spaces kind

1750
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,240
of integrated into the project.

1751
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,240
>>

1752
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,240
okay, thank

1753
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,240
you.

1754
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,240
>> and, let's talk also about the, you

1755
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,640
said getting in and

1756
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,240
out

1757
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,640
of the brewery location?

1758
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,240
do you mean turning left into

1759
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,240
the project?

1760
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,240
>> it is a busy road

1761
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,240
and it is getting

1762
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
busier and busier. So whereas

1763
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,240
all the other commercial, they can

1764
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,240
go up. I don't know what the

1765
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,240
name of that street will be. But they

1766
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,240
can come out and go

1767
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,240
to the light. If they are turning

1768
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,240
left

1769
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,240
going northbound, they are protected. But,

1770
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,240
coming out of there, there is no

1771
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,240
way to get to that

1772
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,240
main road. So, folks that are going

1773
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,240
north,

1774
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,240
they will cut across a pretty

1775
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,240
busy intersection

1776
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,240
there.

1777
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,240
>> yeah. You know, we don't

1778
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,240
have our

1779
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,240
traffic here today. We went through

1780
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,240
all

1781
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,240
of this with tex

1782
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,240
dot and hayes county. Let me get a

1783
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,240
little more

1784
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,240
detail

1785
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,240
on how

1786
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,240
that works.

1787
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,640
>> mr. Ture, go ahead. >>

1788
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,240
thank y'all for the presentation. Some

1789
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,240
things have

1790
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,240
already been said, including your

1791
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,640
question just there, I

1792
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,240
was

1793
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,240
going to check on that split so thank

1794
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,240
you for

1795
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,240
that walk through. Is it 30-year is

1796
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,240
expected on the installments? Like,

1797
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,240
basically, the pid would be

1798
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,240
paid down in 30

1799
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,240
years?

1800
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,240
>> yes. >> based

1801
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,240
on this current

1802
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,240
preliminary but 3500? Per unit? Estimated?

1803
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,240
>>

1804
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,240
that is correct. And that

1805
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,240
is consistent with most of the pids that

1806
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,640
you see throughout the

1807
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,240
state

1808
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,240
of texas. That 30 year term.

1809
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,240
>> that question

1810
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,240
and that question

1811
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,240
for my key to finalizing my understanding

1812
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,240
of the pid. You

1813
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,240
have gotten a lot of feedback already. I

1814
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,240
will sum mine up by saying

1815
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,840
some agreement and just caution. But

1816
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,240
broadly, I

1817
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,240
think what really is key is what y'all came

1818
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,240
back with based on the feedback you

1819
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,240
got. So, you know, you had

1820
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,240
it on I think the

1821
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,240
second

1822
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,240
slide. Reduction in units. Reduction

1823
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,640
in height. Going to

1824
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,240
for sale

1825
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,240
from rental. The

1826
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,240
density. Impervious

1827
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,240
cover. Drive throughs, open space. While

1828
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,240
keeping some of the signature buildings. It

1829
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,240
is so obviously

1830
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,240
key or we made it key is keeping some

1831
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,240
of

1832
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:33,240
these signature trees in

1833
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,240
the environment? Terms of just the

1834
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,240
heritage aspect of

1835
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,240
that project. And what's around that

1836
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:41,240
house that is there today. The point

1837
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,240
is that

1838
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,240
grove, if you will. Just a lot of

1839
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,240
things I think y'all came

1840
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,240
back with. Which is good. I want to

1841
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,240
see the retail number

1842
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:53,240
go up. I understand the pressures. But

1843
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,240
if it is workshop and

1844
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,240
you are looking

1845
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,240
for that feedback, that is one that

1846
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,240
is I think you have made

1847
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,240
a lot of good moves. That

1848
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,640
retail portion is important

1849
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,240
to us. To see it go down

1850
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,240
that much is tough. But I understand

1851
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,240
where you are at. The pid, I

1852
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,240
can generally see and get

1853
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,240
behind. It is

1854
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,240
super tight

1855
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,640
on that three cents.

1856
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,240
just being at 299 is right

1857
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,240
up against and y'all are aware of

1858
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,640
that. I'm not telling

1859
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,240
you anything you don't know. It is

1860
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,240
tight. And our pid policy is

1861
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,240
a

1862
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,240
pretty bright line there. So, I think

1863
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,240
some

1864
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,240
of the cautioner you heard. That makes

1865
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,240
it sound like motions are happening

1866
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,240
when

1867
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,240
I second

1868
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,240
it. I will

1869
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,240
echo. Some of the caution. We are

1870
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,240
not interested in

1871
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,240
moving that policy number. Just know

1872
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,240
that is where we

1873
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,240
are at. And so, y'all are up against

1874
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,240
it but came back with

1875
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,240
a lot of the changes that

1876
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,240
you heard feedback on. So, as far

1877
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,240
as workshop, I think that those are

1878
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,240
some of

1879
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,240
my notes. I would appreciate a bunch

1880
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,640
of those moves working

1881
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,240
to make something

1882
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,240
that still matches our tmnp. And,

1883
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,240
our master plan. And a

1884
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:30,240
lot of the responses you got in

1885
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,240
the original design. While coming

1886
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,240
back

1887
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,240
with something. So yeah. Thanks.

1888
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,240
>>

1889
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,240
all right. I appreciate that. And

1890
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,240
to that,

1891
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,240
we wanted to keep a close eye on that

1892
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,240
line. And I think as you

1893
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,240
mentioned, the pid rate overall as

1894
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,240
a line,

1895
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,240
we are looking at that $3,500 as well

1896
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,240
as the pid rate and looking at communities

1897
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,240
in and around buda as well to make

1898
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,240
sure

1899
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,240
that we are not boxing ourselves

1900
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,240
out from a competitive standpoint. We

1901
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:02,240
wanted to make sure we were competitive

1902
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,240
with other

1903
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,240
project ins the area. The other thing

1904
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,240
we wanted to look at as we

1905
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,240
are doing this and coming back. I

1906
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,240
would like

1907
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,240
to just kind of reiterate item is

1908
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,240
we are voluntarily

1909
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,240
annexing the property

1910
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,240
into the

1911
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,240
city to bring property tax revenues

1912
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:23,240
into the city of buda. We wanted to

1913
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,640
keep that rate where

1914
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,240
it is without having to request

1915
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,240
any tax increment reinvestment zones. We

1916
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,240
didn't want the city to have to

1917
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,240
participate to

1918
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,240
buy that down further. So we were

1919
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,640
trying to hit a

1920
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,240
spot

1921
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,640
we thought was competitive

1922
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,640
in the mark without

1923
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,240
requesting any city assistance. We

1924
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,240
are trying to juggle all of those

1925
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,240
while having

1926
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,240
a project we can produce. It doesn't

1927
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,240
do to set a rate where we can't

1928
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,240
sell the units so we are being very

1929
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,240
careful with

1930
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,240
that as well. So thank you for bringing

1931
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,240
that up and

1932
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,240
I appreciate your comments. Thank

1933
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:05,240
you.

1934
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,240
>> certainly. And got notes.

1935
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,240
there is not just our cap

1936
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,240
but

1937
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,240
the markets.

1938
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,240
>> exactly. >> acceptability. Good notes. Very helpful. Thanks.

1939
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,240
>>

1940
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,240
looking left and

1941
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,240
right. Anyone else? Ms.

1942
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:26,240
davis?

1943
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,240
>> I will just add being on

1944
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,240
here when

1945
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,240
we saw the original plans, very much

1946
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,240
what everyone has said. It is

1947
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,240
a very

1948
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,240
different look

1949
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,240
from original. Pictures we saw while

1950
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,240
I

1951
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,240
appreciate the

1952
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,240
reduction and density. Not excited

1953
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,240
about the

1954
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,240
retail space. And while the market

1955
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,240
will do

1956
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,240
what

1957
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,240
it

1958
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,240
is going to do, we didn't quite understand

1959
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,240
what

1960
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,240
they bought into. They got approved. And,

1961
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,240
they

1962
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,240
started

1963
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,240
seeing

1964
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,240
the bills come in. Similar

1965
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,240
to what the councilwoman stated, being

1966
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,240
careful about the

1967
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,240
product

1968
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,240
we put out there. From a pit

1969
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,240
standpoint, it has already been said. I

1970
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,640
don't know what the

1971
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,240
wow factor is for us to go

1972
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,240
down this path. The infrastructure

1973
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,240
is

1974
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,240
fantastic. That

1975
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,240
would come anyway eventually. I'm

1976
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,240
just real

1977
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:48,240
neutral on this right now. I just

1978
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,240
wanted to get that feedback

1979
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,240
to you. Thank you.

1980
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,240
>> well, this is

1981
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,240
a workshop so there will be no action

1982
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,640
taken this evening but

1983
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,240
we bounced around a bunch of

1984
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,640
feedback and concepts back

1985
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,240
with you. This item is heavy

1986
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,240
on the pid piece of it. Most of

1987
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,240
my questions are on the planned development

1988
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,240
side

1989
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:13,240
as well as the details of what are

1990
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,240
you

1991
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,240
asking for as far as

1992
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,240
mitigation on other things?

1993
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:24,240
that comes with more vetting out the

1994
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,240
process. As far as

1995
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,240
the pid, we talked about that one

1996
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,640
quite a bit. We

1997
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,240
have

1998
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,240
been through a few now. But we did

1999
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:36,240
voice our concerns about the viability. And

2000
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,240
that is

2001
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,240
the developers, that's your problem

2002
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,240
to sell them. But we are just doing

2003
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,240
the math and trying to

2004
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,240
figure out it is going to

2005
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:49,240
be a big murder

2006
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,240
on that individual homeowner. And

2007
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:52,240
fast forward

2008
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,240
a couple of years, they come and find

2009
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,240
us and ask why their

2010
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,240
taxes are so high. Because you bought

2011
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,240
into a

2012
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,240
pid. What's a pid? We have those conversations. And

2013
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,640
those are real conversations

2014
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,240
I

2015
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,240
am expecting to happen. I do appreciate

2016
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,240
the

2017
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,240
changes

2018
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,240
that have been made. There has been

2019
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,240
some

2020
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,240
significant movement

2021
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,240
toward what you listened. We listened

2022
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,240
to the complaints and the input from

2023
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,240
us

2024
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,240
and the public. And you put yourself

2025
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,240
out

2026
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,240
there. I'm looking to see

2027
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,240
how

2028
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,240
the neighborhood meetings go. Because

2029
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:43,240
I will get feedback from those as

2030
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,240
well. I appreciate you guys putting

2031
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,240
yourself out there and getting

2032
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:53,840
in front of the tomatoes in some cases and taking it.

2033
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,240
more of

2034
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,240
my

2035
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:00,240
questions are that financial page. If

2036
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,240
you would flip back to the

2037
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:04,240
one we are trying to expand. I hate

2038
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,240
to use

2039
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,240
the

2040
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,240
word color of money. But, in this

2041
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,240
role together,

2042
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,240
so I can see that the wet utility

2043
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,240
line, you are pulling the water

2044
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,240
and the sewer from where elliot had stopped

2045
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,240
on

2046
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,240
the west

2047
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,240
side. Pulling

2048
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,240
it under the freeway. That is absolutely something

2049
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,240
that we should help you

2050
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,240
with. I

2051
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,640
get that is infrastructure.

2052
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,640
it is the bottom

2053
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,240
section of that that gets fuzzy. What

2054
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,240
is funded by the pid and what is funded

2055
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,640
by you as a

2056
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,240
developer. And so when we

2057
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,240
have this conversation, going forward,

2058
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,240
it

2059
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,240
would be beneficial to look at where

2060
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,240
that is being funded at

2061
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:01,240
least in your mind for conversations. I

2062
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,240
understand

2063
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,240
that it is all dollars and accounts

2064
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240
and all

2065
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,240
of those things. But I don't

2066
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,240
think

2067
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,240
that

2068
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,240
pid should pay

2069
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:20,240
for

2070
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,240
excavation and grating. There are

2071
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,240
details in that bottom section I would

2072
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,240
like to see

2073
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,240
what part of our seven is going into

2074
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,240
that

2075
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:28,240
and what part of your eight goes into

2076
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,240
that. That is not clear the

2077
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,240
way that is presented right now.

2078
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,240
>>

2079
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,240
mr.

2080
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,240
mayor, we have that. And, weed ad

2081
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,240
that to the presentation

2082
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,240
after we submitted the slides. It

2083
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,240
just

2084
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,240
didn't make it

2085
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,240
into tonight. I have it right here.

2086
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,240
>>

2087
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,240
this was a workshop. I

2088
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,240
am

2089
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,240
glad

2090
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,240
you have that answer. I

2091
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,240
said this from

2092
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,240
the very beginning. Through the projects

2093
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,240
we have on coal springs. The

2094
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,240
bridge on coal springs. All

2095
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,240
of those

2096
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,240
things are creating the avenue

2097
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,240
to pull it

2098
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,240
across 1626 which

2099
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,240
would rejuvenate, accelerate this whole

2100
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,240
area. And the

2101
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,240
water loop

2102
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,240
doing the same thing. What you are

2103
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,240
offering I don't take lightly, I appreciate the

2104
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,240
infrastructure you are bringing to

2105
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,240
the area. It is not four stories,

2106
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,240
600 units

2107
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,240
that

2108
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,240
we were looking at. The

2109
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,240
first time

2110
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,240
around. It seemed heavy. I would like

2111
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,240
to understand

2112
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,240
it a little more. As to what goes

2113
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,640
in the pid and

2114
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,240
you

2115
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,240
guys. In

2116
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,640
your mind at least.

2117
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,240
what is impact fee items that could

2118
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,240
be

2119
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,240
and should be used. You came

2120
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,240
to this

2121
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,240
meeting with a list of list

2122
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,240
of wishes and goals. Do you

2123
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,240
need something

2124
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,240
else from us?

2125
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,240
>> I think there is

2126
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,240
just rolling your sleeves up

2127
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,240
to work on it. And we had a

2128
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,240
call with y'all, you have a pid consultant. We

2129
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,240
had patrick. A call last week to start

2130
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,240
that

2131
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,640
dialogue. There is probably

2132
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,240
a little more

2133
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,240
financial

2134
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,240
engineering to get that

2135
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,240
right. There will be a little more

2136
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,240
work for you all to tease that

2137
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,240
out to optimize that and

2138
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,240
get it

2139
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:07,240
where it should be. So one request,

2140
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,240
we will get

2141
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,240
the pid right. The other one will

2142
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:13,240
be, we understand the comments about

2143
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,240
what we had showed y'all

2144
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,240
a few years ago right? And I think

2145
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:19,240
we have had this cross to bear since

2146
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,640
then. And we are

2147
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,240
trying to do good work

2148
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,240
to bring

2149
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,240
back a good

2150
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,640
project. Nobody can tell

2151
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,240
us

2152
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,640
what it will be.

2153
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,240
nobody is elsing us if you do it

2154
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,240
in this buildings, it will work. Even

2155
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,240
if we are following the

2156
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,240
corridor study and the comprehensive

2157
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,240
plan. So

2158
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,240
it would

2159
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,240
be good to get, and I'm not asking

2160
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,240
y'all to do that here. I would

2161
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,240
be good to get a little more guidance

2162
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,240
on okay, we

2163
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,640
like this. If you

2164
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,240
guys can change

2165
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,240
that. It will work. We do have some

2166
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,240
modifications but we

2167
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,240
have cut the modifications. We had over

2168
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:18,240
30

2169
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,240
modifications in the other project. Because

2170
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,240
it was

2171
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:24,240
apartments

2172
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,240
and more complicated project. If question

2173
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,240
can look at it and live

2174
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,640
with it, we cut

2175
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,240
it

2176
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,240
out as a

2177
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,240
modification. What you want the buildings to

2178
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,240
look

2179
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,240
like and what works.

2180
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:46,240
>> that's

2181
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:47,240
what I was talking about. This is

2182
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,240
more of

2183
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,240
a financial discussion. But that is

2184
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,240
a

2185
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:53,240
question that I have is exactly that. If

2186
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,240
it

2187
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,640
is a planned development,

2188
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,240
it has a list of the wants and tweaks. If

2189
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,240
you walked in and said I will build

2190
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,240
everything according

2191
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,240
to your zoning book and

2192
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,240
everything is fine, I think the road

2193
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,240
sizes and

2194
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,240
the density and the driveway sizes

2195
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,240
and some of

2196
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,240
that other stuff plays into a little

2197
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,240
bit. But that is further

2198
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,640
in this conversation than

2199
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,240
this

2200
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:24,240
evening is planned for.

2201
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,240
>> we have

2202
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,240
a couple of tweak to

2203
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,640
the town home roads.

2204
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,240
it

2205
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:44,240
is 100% stone. And you will see this

2206
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,240
building for example. As

2207
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,240
stone, but also some wood. And some

2208
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,240
metal

2209
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,240
panels. So we ask for some flexibility

2210
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,240
in design

2211
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,240
on that. But it is really

2212
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,240
not a dramatic modification we were

2213
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:57,240
looking for before.

2214
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,240
>>

2215
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,240
that is good to know. This is all

2216
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,640
a workshop. I'm looking

2217
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,240
left

2218
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,240
and

2219
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,240
right. See if anyone else.

2220
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:12,240
>> the

2221
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,240
applicant will be going

2222
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:15,240
back and forth through zoning commission

2223
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,240
for their pid. That would be coming

2224
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,240
back at some point in

2225
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,240
the next few months. They have

2226
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,240
not officially applied for a pid yet. So

2227
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,240
we have had a

2228
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,240
few conversations with them with our

2229
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,240
pid consultant who has not been

2230
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,240
engaged to start a pid review with

2231
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,240
them. I believe that is

2232
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,240
happening very soon. They want him

2233
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,240
to get the pulse and temperature

2234
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,240
from

2235
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,240
city council before doing that. If

2236
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,240
city council is open to the idea of

2237
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,240
exploring pid more, it will be

2238
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,240
to

2239
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,840
make the pid application. We partner

2240
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,240
or contract with

2241
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,240
p3 works. P3 works will come in along

2242
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,240
with our financial

2243
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:59,240
advisers and that entire team. And

2244
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,240
they will do

2245
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,240
a

2246
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,240
really deep analysis of this pid and make

2247
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,240
sure

2248
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,240
it

2249
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,240
will pay for itself. And, that built

2250
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,240
in look

2251
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,240
at the bonds themselves, and start

2252
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,240
setting that

2253
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,240
up for success. So that

2254
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,240
if council if and when the

2255
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,240
pid comes to city council,

2256
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:29,240
you'll have all that information

2257
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,240
to make an informed decision. The concepts

2258
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,240
of the public

2259
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,240
cost and infrastructure presented

2260
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,240
and get the temperature check on whether

2261
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,240
a pid would be supported. That

2262
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,240
would

2263
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,640
be the next steps.

2264
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,640
it was june of

2265
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,240
last year, when count till previous

2266
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:56,240
took action on this project. And the

2267
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,240
developer

2268
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,240
is hoping and anticipateing to

2269
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,240
have direction to

2270
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,640
move forward with the

2271
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,240
development.

2272
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,240
>> thank you for

2273
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:17,240
the clarification. More questions, comments? Workshop? Anything

2274
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,240
else? Steven, thank

2275
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,240
you.

2276
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,640
>> thanks everybody. Appreciate it.

2277
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,240
>> that

2278
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,240
was

2279
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,240
our workshop. One

2280
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,240
presentation. J1. Presentation on

2281
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,240
state

2282
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,240
highway 45 gap study findings. Ms.

2283
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:36,240
kennedy again.

2284
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,240
>> this item

2285
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,240
is an update on the findings

2286
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,240
of the 45

2287
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:46,240
gap study. That the city

2288
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,240
supported. With bond dollars. I am

2289
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,640
here to introduce aaron

2290
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,240
gonzalez

2291
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,240
to give the

2292
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:57,240
presentation.

2293
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,240
>> thank you very much. Good

2294
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,240
evening. My name is erin gonzalez,

2295
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,640
I'm with bge. I

2296
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,240
serve as the gec

2297
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,240
project manager representing both

2298
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,240
hayes county and the city

2299
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,240
of buda.

2300
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,240
>> : overseeing the works

2301
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,240
being done by the design team. We

2302
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,240
were here

2303
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,240
to give you an update to

2304
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,240
the

2305
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,240
work we were doing. We

2306
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,240
have try today come back, at this

2307
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,240
time, I will hand it over to paul who

2308
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:28,240
will give you

2309
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,240
an update on those items. Ly come

2310
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,240
back and we will talk through

2311
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,440
next steps at the end. And open

2312
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:40,240
it up for questions.

2313
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,240
>>

2314
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,640
thank you erin. I

2315
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,240
was part

2316
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,240
of the study team. We

2317
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,240
did

2318
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,240
want the

2319
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,240
presentation last january. The purpose of

2320
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,240
the

2321
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,240
study

2322
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,240
began

2323
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,240
in

2324
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,240
fall of 2022. Local partners,

2325
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,240
we are working in collaboration to

2326
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,240
develop a solution that

2327
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:18,240
works well for the area and considers

2328
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,240
the

2329
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,640
interesting concerns of all

2330
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,240
involved. The goals of the

2331
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,240
study, do things in a productive and

2332
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,240
clear way. We

2333
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,240
collected input from wide range

2334
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,240
of stake holders that identify conceptual

2335
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,240
route

2336
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:36,240
options and work to minimize impacts

2337
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,240
on current and

2338
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:39,240
future development. We also wanted

2339
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,240
to identify strategies to

2340
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:42,240
protect the environment and follow

2341
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,240
best practices for doing so.

2342
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,240
consistent with that, the study we

2343
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,240
met with staff from several cities

2344
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,240
and surrounding agencies,

2345
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,240
we

2346
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,240
had

2347
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,240
three meetings with staff. We had

2348
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,240
met with various property owners. Had

2349
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,240
a total

2350
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,240
of 26 of those meetings. We

2351
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,240
conducted three open houses, june

2352
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,240
and december of

2353
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,240
2023. And

2354
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,240
then in

2355
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:19,240
august of 2024. What we

2356
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,240
learned from that, this was about

2357
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,240
a year on this

2358
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,240
map. It is not 100% up to date. What

2359
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,240
we learned during

2360
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,240
that process from the landowners

2361
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:30,240
is that the yellow hatched areas are

2362
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,240
areas

2363
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,240
that are planned

2364
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:37,240
to be developed. That included nearly

2365
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:38,240
900

2366
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,240
acres. 27% of the study area was planned

2367
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,240
for development

2368
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,240
as of that

2369
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:44,240
time. So, that underscores the need

2370
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:45,240
to develop what the infrastuckture

2371
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:47,240
needs

2372
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,240
will be for this

2373
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:51,240
area as that development continues. The

2374
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,240
first open

2375
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,240
house is conducted june of 2023 at

2376
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,240
sunfield station. We had both an in-person

2377
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,240
open

2378
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:01,240
house and a virtual online one. We

2379
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,240
had

2380
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,240
more than 60

2381
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,240
people

2382
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,240
in the in-person one. We had 615

2383
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,240
unique views

2384
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:15,240
on the website. We responded to all

2385
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,240
the

2386
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,240
comments received and summarized that

2387
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,240
in a pronounced summary report that

2388
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:22,240
included a matrix of all those comment

2389
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,240
responses. That

2390
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,240
was posted on

2391
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:28,240
the website. In addition to that,

2392
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,240
we have

2393
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,240
large maps we put input on

2394
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,240
the public. I

2395
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,240
will

2396
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,240
show

2397
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,240
you those here. The in-person open

2398
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,240
house. They

2399
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,240
are kind of magenta shading. What

2400
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,240
we

2401
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,240
got from the

2402
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,240
in-person. We took all the comments,

2403
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,240
we put

2404
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:58,240
them together. Created one, all inclusive

2405
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,240
map

2406
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,240
of all the

2407
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:06,240
suggestions. What you see, aggregated

2408
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,240
those. Almost all of

2409
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,240
them reflected similar concept. You

2410
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,240
see in the light blue. One exception

2411
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,240
was in the red. We got one

2412
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:16,240
suggestion for a more northerly route. All

2413
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,240
other

2414
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,640
suggestions were kind of

2415
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,240
had a similar concept there toward

2416
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,240
the southern

2417
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,240
or central part of the study

2418
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,240
area. After that, we worked to apply

2419
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,240
engineering standards to these suggestions

2420
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,240
and develop

2421
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,640
actual routes that we

2422
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,240
could apply our analysis

2423
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:40,240
to. So what you see here is those

2424
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,240
route

2425
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,240
suggestions with

2426
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,640
the engineering criteria applied.

2427
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,240
would

2428
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,240
have had three residential displacements. Also

2429
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,240
the

2430
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,240
engineering technical side of that

2431
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,240
was less desirable mainly

2432
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,240
because it crossed, as you can see

2433
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:06,240
there,

2434
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,240
toward the

2435
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,240
middle of the large bend. And

2436
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,240
crossed large floodplain areas in

2437
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,240
onion and garlic creeks. As

2438
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:17,240
an effort to minimize the

2439
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,240
impacts, we modified that red alignment to

2440
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,240
what

2441
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,240
you see in the yellow. That

2442
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,240
removed

2443
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,240
the crossing of the

2444
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:31,240
bend. The crossing of the floodplains

2445
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,240
for

2446
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,240
the eastern side there. The blue route

2447
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,240
represented all the other suggestions. That

2448
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:40,240
route had no displacements as of

2449
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,240
the

2450
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,640
time of the study.

2451
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,240
avoided that

2452
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,240
bend in little bear creek.

2453
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,240
from that

2454
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:00,240
analysis, we recommended

2455
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,240
for

2456
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,240
further study, in the blue. That was presented

2457
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,240
at the second open house

2458
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,240
in december. As of that time, had

2459
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:14,240
no displacements. Had

2460
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,240
that more desirable engineering perspective

2461
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,240
and less

2462
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,240
of that floodplain impact. And then

2463
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,240
for those reasons

2464
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,240
we eliminated from further consideration

2465
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,240
in

2466
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:33,240
black those northern routes.

2467
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:34,240
the preliminary recommendation, it was

2468
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,240
not

2469
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:38,240
finalized at this time. And

2470
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,240
subject to further retirement assumeing

2471
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,240
the project

2472
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,240
would continue into future phases. Along that

2473
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,240
line, you see

2474
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,240
we looked at a couple of

2475
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,640
different options, what that

2476
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,240
configuration

2477
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,240
would look like. Consistent with

2478
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,240
what it looks like. We assume the

2479
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,240
gap project

2480
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,240
would be controlled access. Which

2481
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,240
means no

2482
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,640
direct driveways or cross

2483
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:09,240
streets

2484
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:11,240
crossing the lanes. And we looked

2485
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:12,240
at

2486
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:13,240
two options. One with and one without

2487
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,240
frontage roads and

2488
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,240
the

2489
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:19,240
final concept could include some frontage

2490
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,240
roads

2491
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,240
or not. Also

2492
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,240
note,

2493
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,240
the shared use path

2494
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,240
which would accommodate the users

2495
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,240
along the route. So, with these

2496
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,240
concept, we created two right away

2497
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:37,240
footprints. One would be about 250

2498
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:38,240
feet ride. At the

2499
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,240
top there. Without frontage roads. And

2500
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,240
if you had the frontage

2501
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,240
roads that

2502
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,240
was about a 400-foot wide. So,

2503
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:49,240
we took those footprints. Applied

2504
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,240
some

2505
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,840
criteria to those. And then looked

2506
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,240
at what the evaluation of those would

2507
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,240
be. The table here shows impacts

2508
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,240
from the two scenarios. Would

2509
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,640
result again in no

2510
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,240
residential or commercial

2511
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:10,240
displacements. Also, no impacts were

2512
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,240
being anticipated

2513
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:13,240
to facilities like schools, hospitals,

2514
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,240
emergency services,

2515
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,640
dedicated parkland cemeteries, short

2516
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,640
properties, oil gas wells

2517
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,240
or other

2518
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,640
hazardous material site sites.

2519
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:34,240
we had an in-person component there. We

2520
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,240
had the

2521
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,240
online option as well. We

2522
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,240
had a few

2523
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,240
more

2524
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,240
attendees to that one. 797 unique

2525
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,240
views on the website. It is as with

2526
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,640
the first open house,

2527
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,240
we

2528
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,240
got all

2529
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,240
those

2530
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,240
comments responded no those. Coming

2531
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,240
out of

2532
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:08,240
that second open house,

2533
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,240
we provided refinements. What you

2534
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,240
see in

2535
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,240
blue there

2536
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,240
is the preliminary route. We refine

2537
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,240
that to the

2538
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,240
pink shading. One was to avoid utilities

2539
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:25,240
out there. The transmission line more

2540
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,640
toward the western side

2541
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,240
of the study area. And then, we also

2542
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,240
aligned the route with the right of

2543
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,240
way that was being used for the

2544
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,240
per year

2545
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,240
road extension

2546
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,240
on the

2547
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,240
east end. With no anticipated

2548
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,240
displacementss

2549
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,240
a

2550
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,240
of that time. We took

2551
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,240
that corridor. Applied more engineering

2552
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:58,240
to that. Created an access assessment

2553
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,640
to look at how

2554
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,240
would users access that facility. First,

2555
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,240
we

2556
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:05,240
started with the changes at each end of

2557
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,240
the route

2558
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,240
one on the

2559
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,240
west you see there. Sh45

2560
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,240
southwest ends at f.m. 1626. That would

2561
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,240
be an interchange

2562
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,240
and access to the new route. And

2563
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,640
then on the east

2564
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,240
side would align with where sh45

2565
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,240
comes in at I-35. Between those, we

2566
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,240
assessed

2567
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:30,240
and saw that you could

2568
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,240
have two additional inner changes

2569
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,240
in the middle of the route

2570
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,240
essentially dividing up

2571
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,640
the corridor into one-third.

2572
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,240
full access to

2573
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:50,240
and from the route. We looked at where

2574
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:52,240
frontage

2575
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:54,240
roads could

2576
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,840
be located. Basically, the main lanes

2577
01:37:58,240 --> 01:37:59,240
would connect to existing sh45 on

2578
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,240
the west. And

2579
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,240
sh45

2580
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,240
southeast on

2581
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,240
the east side. At each

2582
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,240
one

2583
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,240
of those intermediate interchanges. Proposed

2584
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,240
development, would be

2585
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:17,240
needed for the eastern third from

2586
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,240
the interchange just

2587
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,240
east of

2588
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,240
the railroad there. Over to I-35. And

2589
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:24,240
again,

2590
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,240
that note, these are preliminary subject

2591
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,240
to

2592
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:30,240
change

2593
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,240
based on future development. As well. Once

2594
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,240
we have

2595
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,640
had that access assessment,

2596
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,240
we

2597
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,240
conducted a traffic study. In

2598
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:46,840
an origin destination study. We share

2599
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,240
the

2600
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,640
traffic study, they reviewed

2601
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,240
that. The destination

2602
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,240
study what you

2603
01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:59,240
see here, we took data from origin

2604
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,240
and destination

2605
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,240
of trips along

2606
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,240
the sh45 existing corridor. We

2607
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,240
looked at both directions. Where trips

2608
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,240
would begin and end. The origin of

2609
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,640
each trip is shown

2610
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,640
there in blue. And,

2611
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:18,240
the

2612
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,240
destination is shown in orange. It

2613
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,240
represents a

2614
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:23,240
higher number of trips. Looked at

2615
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,240
a.m. And p.m. Peaks

2616
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,240
as well as both directions

2617
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,240
along sh45. And, what you may expect,

2618
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,640
the main take away

2619
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,240
there is that there is

2620
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,240
heavy movement in

2621
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,240
the a.m. Period from northern hayes

2622
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,240
county

2623
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,240
and the southern

2624
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,240
mopak area. From south austin

2625
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,240
back into northern hays county. Second

2626
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,240
part of the

2627
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,240
traffic study was conducted. Looked

2628
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:59,240
at the travel demand model. And evaluated

2629
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,240
that with the

2630
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,240
access

2631
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,240
points

2632
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,640
that you saw before.

2633
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,240
the traffic would

2634
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:14,240
increase regardless. Improvements

2635
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,240
we

2636
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:17,240
saw along the road network that would

2637
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,240
result

2638
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,240
in

2639
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,240
building the gap network. In the study

2640
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:26,240
network. We see reduction in traffic

2641
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,240
volumes

2642
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,240
and increase in speeds on

2643
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,240
most

2644
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,640
of the arterial streets.

2645
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,240
would

2646
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,240
be increased by up to five miles per

2647
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,240
hour by f.m. 967 and robert s

2648
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:47,240
light boulevard and we see a reduction

2649
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,240
of traffic

2650
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:53,240
volumes depending on the time

2651
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,240
of day. About a 20 to

2652
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,240
30% in volumes on robert. Then,

2653
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,240
if you go to f.m. 1626, we

2654
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,240
would see reduction volumes there. Depending

2655
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,240
on time

2656
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:05,240
of day. 10 and 15% reduction and you

2657
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,240
can see speed

2658
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,240
increases up to 10 miles per hour

2659
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:10,640
on average during those

2660
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:13,640
peaks. And then, finally

2661
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,240
on I-35, we saw an increase from the

2662
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,240
model results of travel speeds up to

2663
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,240
about four miles per

2664
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:20,240
hour. Once you got 45 where you saw

2665
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,240
that traffic

2666
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,240
coming off. 35 and going over

2667
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,240
to what

2668
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:30,240
would be sh45. So those are the improvements

2669
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:31,240
we

2670
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,240
saw. A couple of the impacts. Sh45

2671
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,240
the existing route

2672
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,240
to the west would stay at or near

2673
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,240
capacity

2674
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,240
for most

2675
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,240
of the day. And start to

2676
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,240
exceed

2677
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:50,240
capacity in the p.m. Peak. We see that

2678
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,240
begin to

2679
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,240
use

2680
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,240
all of its compass capacity. Once

2681
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:02,240
you got north of slaughter we saw

2682
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,240
the effects of the gap

2683
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,240
project go away and not have much notable

2684
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:09,240
effect of the travel

2685
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,240
speeds. And then, mopac as expected

2686
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,640
already would remain at

2687
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,240
or

2688
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,240
near its design capacity. And

2689
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:20,240
the other effect we saw, it would

2690
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,240
still have

2691
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,240
some sections

2692
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,240
that are over

2693
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,240
capacity even with

2694
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,240
the project. Between 45 southwest. With

2695
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:36,240
all that information, we presented

2696
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,240
that at the

2697
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:39,240
open house about a year ago. Like

2698
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,240
the

2699
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,240
first two we had both the

2700
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,240
in-person meeting and a virtual online,

2701
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,640
we had 70 attendees at

2702
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:51,240
that in-person open house. 95 comments. And

2703
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,240
655

2704
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,240
unique

2705
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,240
views on the website. And

2706
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,240
then,

2707
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,240
responded to

2708
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,240
all the comments. The overall findings

2709
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,240
we

2710
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:09,240
had from the study, a few of those

2711
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,240
included

2712
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,240
the

2713
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,240
project assuming

2714
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,240
that full 400-foot wide right of way foot

2715
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,240
present would require 190

2716
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,240
acres. It would be generally

2717
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:26,240
supported by the affected property owners. Based

2718
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,240
on our discussions

2719
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:30,240
with them. And the project would not

2720
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,240
displace

2721
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:36,440
any existing homes or bids or impact

2722
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,640
parks, recreation areas. And

2723
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,240
incorporate environmental

2724
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:45,240
best practices and controls. Now I

2725
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,240
will,

2726
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,240
bear with me, I will go back

2727
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,240
to

2728
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,240
one of the maps. I will

2729
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,240
read through

2730
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:01,240
the bullet

2731
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:03,240
point. We created a preliminary scheme

2732
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,240
attic design. We are not display tag quite yet. But

2733
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,240
I will show

2734
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,240
you

2735
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,240
on the map here. So you get a visual. But

2736
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:17,240
a few

2737
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,240
of the things

2738
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:21,240
included, the connection to the main

2739
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,240
lanes. Great

2740
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,240
separations at that

2741
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,240
intersection

2742
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,240
as well

2743
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,240
as

2744
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:37,240
across over f.m. 1626. The two

2745
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,240
intermediate interchanges with the

2746
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,240
buda city

2747
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,840
of transportation plan. We had future

2748
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,240
arterial locations again in

2749
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:48,240
line with master plan. One of those

2750
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,240
arterials would

2751
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,240
remain west

2752
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:55,240
of the union

2753
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,240
pacific railroad. And one of those would connect

2754
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,240
to

2755
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,240
the

2756
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,240
east of the railroad. Between cullen

2757
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:06,240
boulevard and hailey's way. The other

2758
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,240
future

2759
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,240
arterial

2760
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,240
that was

2761
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,240
east of the

2762
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,240
railroad the

2763
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,240
connection was for

2764
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,240
that western arterial near cabella's drive. The

2765
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,240
frontage roads

2766
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,640
as I mentioned would

2767
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,240
extend from that

2768
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:35,240
eastern interchange

2769
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,640
to I-35 to address

2770
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:41,240
access

2771
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,240
needs for

2772
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:45,240
the existing development. Then we

2773
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,240
would have the

2774
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:50,240
sh45 southeast

2775
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,240
connect to the

2776
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,240
main lanes. Finally, we would

2777
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,640
have flyover ramps from

2778
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,240
I-35. We

2779
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,240
developed

2780
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,240
consensual designs allowing

2781
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,240
them in all

2782
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:12,240
directions between that footprint. With

2783
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,640
that, I will let

2784
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,240
erin

2785
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:22,240
go through next steps.

2786
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,240
>> so

2787
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,640
currently, what paul mentioned,

2788
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,240
the study

2789
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,240
is complete. The

2790
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,640
reports are complete and

2791
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,240
schematic is final review ready

2792
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,240
to be published. The process

2793
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,240
doesn't stop. We continue to provide

2794
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,240
them information on our lay-outs and

2795
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,240
trying

2796
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:52,240
to work with them

2797
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:57,400
on their developments. We are looking to identify

2798
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,240
the

2799
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,240
right of

2800
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:03,240
way needed. And create documents moving forward but

2801
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,240
that's

2802
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,240
where the scope of our work on this contract ends

2803
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,240
so we

2804
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:09,240
will be looking for hays county and

2805
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,240
the city overby

2806
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,240
da for any next steps

2807
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,240
on how to

2808
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,640
move forward. But our

2809
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,240
project

2810
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:24,240
concludes here with the feasibility I

2811
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,240
will open it up for

2812
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:28,240
questions.

2813
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:29,240
>>

2814
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:30,240
you want to go first?

2815
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:31,240
>> sure. Thank

2816
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,240
you

2817
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,240
very

2818
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,240
much for

2819
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,240
the study. Help me understand if you

2820
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,240
would go

2821
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,240
back to that preliminary access map

2822
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,240
that

2823
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,240
was just up. Okay. So, we are

2824
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,240
at 1327 and 35. And, it looks

2825
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,240
like the roadway is being

2826
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:56,840
proposed to extend out past 1327. So

2827
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,640
I'm thinking about all

2828
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,240
of the new apartments and homes being built off of

2829
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,240
old san antonio road. There will

2830
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,240
be

2831
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,240
additional

2832
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,240
stuff put back there. That whole makeup

2833
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,240
of the way it looks now in five

2834
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,240
years will

2835
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:25,240
not be there.

2836
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,240
>> yeah.

2837
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,240
subject to

2838
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,240
change but as the preliminary design, there

2839
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,240
would be no direct

2840
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:36,240
access to that. So, does it necessarily

2841
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,640
take its consideration. Some

2842
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,240
of the development. But I guess it

2843
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:44,640
doesn't preclude it or

2844
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,240
doesn't

2845
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:51,240
do anything negative toward difficult.

2846
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:52,240
>>

2847
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,240
is

2848
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,640
plan is to go

2849
01:48:57,240 --> 01:48:58,240
up correct?

2850
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,240
>> we had a couple of

2851
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:01,240
concepts going up above or below without

2852
01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:03,240
showing it to

2853
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,240
you. Probably not going to make

2854
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,240
a lot of sense. It would not cross

2855
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,240
directly

2856
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,240
with old san antonio. The sh45

2857
01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:14,240
lanes would

2858
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,640
be either above or

2859
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,240
below.

2860
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:26,240
>>

2861
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:27,240
okay. That would affect the slide

2862
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,240
that you had

2863
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,240
that talked

2864
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,240
about having access roads. You

2865
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:36,240
are going to stick to the concept

2866
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,240
of it

2867
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,240
being maybe elevated roadway that

2868
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,240
goes above that

2869
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,240
area,

2870
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,240
I could probably get there. If

2871
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,240
you

2872
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,240
are talking in access roads. There's

2873
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:55,240
a lot in that space. It is super dense

2874
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,240
back

2875
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:00,240
there right now and it is

2876
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:02,240
just continuing

2877
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:03,240
to be built. These feasibility studies

2878
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,240
are

2879
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:07,240
done

2880
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:09,240
with current conditions. Hopefully,

2881
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,240
there has been some thought in what

2882
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,240
the

2883
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:13,240
city of austin is doing. Because,

2884
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,240
they

2885
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:16,240
are building on every piece of property that

2886
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,240
is back there

2887
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:19,240
this they can get their hands on. And

2888
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,240
then

2889
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:25,240
of course, the city of

2890
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:28,240
buda, we have our school

2891
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,240
down there with buda

2892
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,240
elementary. And you will have potentially heb or some

2893
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,240
other business built off that road. So I

2894
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:37,240
think when we start thinking about

2895
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,240
going up,

2896
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:41,240
up

2897
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,240
would be a better choice. Then trying

2898
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,240
to put everybody

2899
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,240
in that same compacted space.

2900
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,240
what we will create

2901
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:52,240
is another 162-6967.

2902
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,240
>> I'll also

2903
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,240
just

2904
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,240
mention on, we talked about what the

2905
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,240
city

2906
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,640
is doing. The per

2907
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:06,240
year

2908
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:10,240
road right of way. This

2909
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:14,240
fits within that width

2910
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,240
. That will fit in the space that

2911
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:17,240
is already reserved.

2912
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,240
>> I get

2913
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:21,240
that it

2914
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,240
will fit. But if you

2915
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,240
drive it, it doesn't fit. They have

2916
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,240
done some improvements. They put a

2917
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:29,240
bunch of apartments back

2918
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,240
there. They created a light signal

2919
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:32,240
there but

2920
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,240
again, we are talking about a windy

2921
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,240
two lane road that people

2922
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,240
are used to

2923
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:42,240
not having large volumes of traffic. And

2924
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:43,240
anything that happens on 35 pushes everybody

2925
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,240
off

2926
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,240
of old

2927
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:50,240
san antonio road.

2928
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,240
>> we coordinated

2929
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,240
with some

2930
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,240
of the regional partners. Travis county,

2931
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,240
if

2932
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,240
the

2933
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,640
project were to continue,

2934
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:05,240
there

2935
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,240
would be additional coordination. What

2936
01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,240
is

2937
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:11,240
the

2938
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,240
impact from traffic being added and

2939
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,240
just working with them

2940
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:16,240
on how to best facilitate.

2941
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,240
>> great

2942
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:18,240
idea. We need to make sure

2943
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:19,240
they are on board with this. Because

2944
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,240
if

2945
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:25,240
they have a lot of impact

2946
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,240
on what

2947
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:31,240
moves forward because of what

2948
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,240
they are already doing to

2949
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,240
date. I appreciate it.

2950
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,240
>> ms.

2951
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:38,240
davidson.

2952
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:39,240
>> a lot

2953
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:40,240
of information. I know you guys have

2954
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:43,240
spent a lot of time on

2955
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:45,640
this. Could you go

2956
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:49,240
to the a.m. P.m. Flow? I

2957
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,640
want to make sure

2958
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:53,240
I'm understanding.

2959
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,240
>> the

2960
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,240
origin destination study?

2961
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,240
>> yes. Thank

2962
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,240
you. So explain this to me please. Specifically

2963
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:03,240
I want

2964
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:07,240
to know how this affects buda. Our

2965
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:08,240
traffic coming

2966
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,240
through the downtown.

2967
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:10,240
>> it is not

2968
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,240
so much showing what the effect of

2969
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:16,240
the project will be. But

2970
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,240
what the current trips, how

2971
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,240
they are organized

2972
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,240
I should say. The

2973
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,240
darker shades in blue are where trips are coming

2974
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,240
from. You can see

2975
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:28,240
in the a.m. Peak. You can see a lot

2976
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,240
of trips coming

2977
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,240
from areas just north of buda. You

2978
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,240
can

2979
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:34,240
see the dark blue there. And then

2980
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,240
those trips, a

2981
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:38,240
lot of them end up in south austin

2982
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,240
there along

2983
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,240
mopac and oak hill area. That is

2984
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,240
really

2985
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,240
what this

2986
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,240
is

2987
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,240
showing is how people are currently

2988
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,240
moving about the area. Eastbound,

2989
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,240
you don't see quite as many of the

2990
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:57,240
heavy shades because there

2991
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,240
are not quite as many trips going

2992
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,240
on. You flip it on

2993
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,240
the p.m., you see more

2994
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,240
of that heavy trips originating from

2995
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:08,240
that

2996
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,240
oak hill area. South austin. Coming

2997
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,240
back in

2998
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,240
orange

2999
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,240
on the

3000
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,240
right there. The

3001
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,240
orange darker shades

3002
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,240
is where they

3003
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:28,240
are getting into buda. You see light

3004
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,240
central shadeing

3005
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:31,240
in buda in the p.m. It is less in

3006
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:33,640
other areas. So what

3007
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,240
we are seeing is maybe not quite

3008
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:39,240
as

3009
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,240
many

3010
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:45,240
people in the sh45,

3011
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:46,240
it is central to the study area. It

3012
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:48,240
is a

3013
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,240
road that as

3014
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:53,240
proposed, the

3015
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,240
gap would connect to we thought it was

3016
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:58,240
a good way to look at

3017
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,240
who may use this facility and

3018
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:02,240
how it could

3019
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:03,240
benefit the community.

3020
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:04,240
>> just to

3021
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:05,240
add to that, origin destination is

3022
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:06,240
important to understand

3023
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:07,240
where people are coming from and going. All

3024
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,240
of

3025
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,640
you probably have a

3026
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,640
pretty good idea because

3027
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,240
they

3028
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:19,240
are your constituents. But when a road doesn't

3029
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:22,240
exist like this one today

3030
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:23,240
it is harder to model the

3031
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,240
traffic without completely understanding

3032
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:26,240
where everyone is comeing from and

3033
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,240
going to. The origin destination helps

3034
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,240
us to understand

3035
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:33,640
that and the next

3036
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,240
steps

3037
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:37,240
are the traffic results. Which you

3038
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,640
might be asking how

3039
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,240
will this impact. Why don't

3040
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:45,240
we

3041
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,240
go to that results?

3042
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:49,240
>> we

3043
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,240
have

3044
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,240
the

3045
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:55,240
bullets here. The traffic report. The

3046
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:57,240
full tables

3047
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,240
and maps and everything. It

3048
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,240
may be hard to fathom it more

3049
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:04,240
without seeing some visuals. But I

3050
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:06,240
guess, you

3051
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:07,240
have a question specifically on it?

3052
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:08,240
>>

3053
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,240
I guess to summarize here, we

3054
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:12,240
are seeing a lot of the

3055
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,240
traffic reduction in the arterial

3056
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,240
roads

3057
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:19,240
and the smaller neighborhood roads

3058
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:22,240
by making this connection. We'll see

3059
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,640
more folks that are

3060
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,240
making the

3061
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:30,240
trip in the

3062
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:32,240
morning or the

3063
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,240
evening. Using smaller roads, arterials

3064
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:35,240
and local roads.

3065
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,240
>> I guess that is kind

3066
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,240
of where I'm getting at

3067
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,240
understanding

3068
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:43,240
the east west traveling. The way it

3069
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:45,240
looks, we talk

3070
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,240
about okay, the

3071
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:51,240
south

3072
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:54,240
traffic

3073
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,240
is pushing through. It is east buda. And

3074
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,240
sun field

3075
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,240
area pushing through our downtown

3076
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:00,240
and get to

3077
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:01,240
pilpac in the mornings. Same thing

3078
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:02,240
coming home. There is no other alternative

3079
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:04,240
unless

3080
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:05,240
you are going to try to come down

3081
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:06,240
35,

3082
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:10,440
cut through any of those things. Whatever

3083
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,240
you

3084
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,240
want

3085
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:18,240
to do with

3086
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,240
that. This study reflects that east

3087
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,240
west

3088
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,240
main street traffic

3089
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:28,240
being

3090
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,240
moved faster. Not just the 1626

3091
01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,240
to robert

3092
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,240
s. Light. While still a

3093
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:38,240
big problem.

3094
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,240
>> maybe. >> is east

3095
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,240
buda the problem

3096
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,240
also? Moving

3097
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:48,240
west? And west back to east?

3098
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:49,240
>>

3099
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:53,240
make sure I understand the question. Talking

3100
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,240
about buda east of

3101
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:56,240
35. Is that an issue and is this addressing that

3102
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:57,240
issue?

3103
01:57:57,240 --> 01:57:59,240
>>

3104
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:00,240
could it?

3105
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:01,240
>>

3106
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:02,240
could it address that issue?

3107
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:03,240
>> a

3108
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,240
lot of reasons

3109
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,240
we look at that destination. Are

3110
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:08,240
there currently people using sh-45

3111
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,240
southwest

3112
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:13,240
from the areas? You can see

3113
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:14,240
some light shading there. East of

3114
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,240
buda. Not

3115
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,240
as much as west. Sorry, east of

3116
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:23,240
35. Not as much west of 35. You can

3117
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,240
see

3118
01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,240
a

3119
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:29,240
little bit more there. In those peak.

3120
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,240
>>

3121
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,240
if you look

3122
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:37,240
at

3123
01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:40,640
the left top figure.

3124
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,240
there are a number of vehicles that

3125
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:47,240
are traveling from that area over

3126
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:48,240
to the orange

3127
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:50,240
area. That is where they are headed. And

3128
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:52,240
that's

3129
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,240
the traffic that you are seeing

3130
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,240
through downtown and other connections

3131
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,240
to get them

3132
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,240
to that orange area. And so, by making

3133
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,240
this connection with state highway

3134
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,240
45

3135
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,240
at the gap, it aleves that

3136
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:09,240
traffic. Some of that traffic. It

3137
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:12,240
reduces the capacity on those existing

3138
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:13,240
roads and increases the speeds on

3139
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:14,240
those existing roads.

3140
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:15,240
>> the first

3141
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:16,240
part

3142
01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:17,240
is there a need. I think the second

3143
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:19,240
part

3144
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:21,240
is

3145
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:24,840
could this project help that? The

3146
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,240
key to that

3147
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,240
is the 35 interchange. People

3148
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:32,240
coming on 35 could take directly to

3149
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,640
the gap project without

3150
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:36,240
having to get on the local access

3151
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:37,240
roads.

3152
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:38,240
>>

3153
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:39,240
right. And if they are willing to pay

3154
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:40,240
a toll fee.

3155
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:41,240
>> thank you

3156
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:43,240
very

3157
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:49,240
much. That was very helpful.

3158
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,240
>> more questions? Mr. Bowles? >>

3159
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,240
similar question. I drive that corridor. I

3160
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,240
drive very frequently and it

3161
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:56,240
currently backs up on the 45 now at

3162
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,240
peak

3163
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,240
times

3164
02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:07,640
in the mornings specifically.

3165
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:12,240
where is that in bullet two

3166
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,240
on the bottom paragraph there where

3167
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:16,240
you will see a slight increase

3168
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:17,240
in traffic where there need to be

3169
02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:19,640
south of slaughter? Is

3170
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:22,640
that what that is

3171
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,240
saying? By

3172
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,640
having the new gap?

3173
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:37,240
>>

3174
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:41,240
the new bridges where the

3175
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,240
new mopac lanes go. The lanes that

3176
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,240
are two lanes each direction.

3177
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,240
giving up, mostly to

3178
02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:53,240
slaughter. That is where they are

3179
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:55,240
destined for

3180
02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:59,240
some of those areas. You see

3181
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,240
folks traveling on

3182
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:04,240
there. Taking exits

3183
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:06,240
to slaughter and to win

3184
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:08,240
cannon. People are getting to, folks

3185
02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:10,240
that

3186
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:11,240
have beened added to the network are

3187
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:13,240
starting to exit and

3188
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:14,240
get where they are going to go.

3189
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:15,240
>>

3190
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,240
I guess,

3191
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:17,240
by tying in the 35, I imagine there

3192
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:20,240
is some amount of traffic

3193
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:22,240
that is

3194
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:25,240
not currently coming through from

3195
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:29,240
sun field or other places. I believe we

3196
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:31,240
would get some

3197
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:32,240
18 wheelers which would make mopac

3198
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,240
more fun but I imagine that

3199
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:38,240
would back up. If it is already backing

3200
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,240
up where

3201
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:44,240
the valor school is. The

3202
02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:45,240
45 turning into the mopac section. By

3203
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:47,240
adding more

3204
02:01:47,240 --> 02:01:48,240
capacity off of 35 and everything,

3205
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:50,240
I imagine that section there would

3206
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,240
back up as well. I guess

3207
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,240
I

3208
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:56,240
didn't see that specifically here. Maybe

3209
02:01:56,240 --> 02:01:58,240
I'm missing

3210
02:01:58,240 --> 02:01:59,240
it.

3211
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:00,240
>> getting a little more to the

3212
02:02:00,240 --> 02:02:02,240
nuance

3213
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,240
on the travel demand model, that

3214
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:05,240
is what is the basis for these results. One

3215
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:07,240
thing we

3216
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,240
didn't note is that does

3217
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,640
assume certain other projects

3218
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:15,240
will happen by the study year which

3219
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:16,240
was

3220
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:19,840
2045. Study year we were working under

3221
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,240
when

3222
02:02:23,240 --> 02:02:24,240
this study was done. So that does assume

3223
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,240
the

3224
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:28,240
additional lanes would be

3225
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:29,240
added by that time. That handle traffic,

3226
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:30,240
that will

3227
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:32,240
increase regardless of whether the

3228
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:34,640
45 gap were built or

3229
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:37,240
not. But

3230
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:39,240
also increases the capacity to

3231
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,240
accommodate some additional demand

3232
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:42,240
there.

3233
02:02:42,240 --> 02:02:43,240
>> thanks. >> mr.

3234
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:44,240
ture.

3235
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:45,240
>> thank y'all throughout. I

3236
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:47,240
will try to be quick with my questions

3237
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:49,240
and feel free to be quick

3238
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:50,240
with your answers. And I can have

3239
02:02:50,240 --> 02:02:52,240
some more questions

3240
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:55,240
to follow

3241
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,240
up. Just

3242
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:00,240
real quick, stv?

3243
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:01,240
>> the

3244
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:02,240
company name. The consultant working

3245
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:04,240
for

3246
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:06,240
hays county.

3247
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:08,240
>>

3248
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:09,240
sub to bge?

3249
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:10,240
>> it

3250
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:13,840
is a separate contract. They have

3251
02:03:14,240 --> 02:03:16,240
individual

3252
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:18,240
contacts with hays county. Overseeing

3253
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,240
the design

3254
02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,640
work being performed by

3255
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:24,240
stv.

3256
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:26,240
>>

3257
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:28,240
got you. Great. This

3258
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:31,240
is helpful throughout. The adjustment

3259
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,240
on the transmission lines. And,

3260
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:37,240
I think, there

3261
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,240
is

3262
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:41,240
adjustment per your lift station. To

3263
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,240
fly a little further south on the

3264
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:44,240
east end of the project. Am I tracking

3265
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,240
what some of the feedback

3266
02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,240
you got in the coordination

3267
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:53,240
study?

3268
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:54,240
>> some of it was feedback. Some of

3269
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:55,240
it looking at

3270
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,240
the quarter a little closer. What

3271
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,240
we saw kind

3272
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,240
of

3273
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:06,240
in that intermediate period was that plat

3274
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,240
was

3275
02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,240
approved

3276
02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:17,640
for the road extension.

3277
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,240
that footprint

3278
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,240
was

3279
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,640
reserved for a roadway.

3280
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:41,240
it

3281
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:44,240
doesn't

3282
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,240
go past the

3283
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:48,240
creek there. What we were planning

3284
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:49,240
for was compatible for

3285
02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:51,240
that. And when we shifted there. What

3286
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:52,240
you see

3287
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:53,240
on that curve, that curve that is

3288
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:54,240
going further south is more just to

3289
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:56,240
meet the

3290
02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:58,240
design speed of the

3291
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:00,240
facility. Can't make quite as sharp

3292
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:01,240
of a curve if we have already

3293
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,240
kind of turned to the south. So it

3294
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:05,240
was kind of

3295
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:07,240
a domino

3296
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:09,240
effect there. And then, the transmission

3297
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,640
towers was looking at

3298
02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:13,240
where those existing

3299
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:15,240
facilities are at. And just trying

3300
02:05:15,240 --> 02:05:17,240
to impact

3301
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:20,240
those as little

3302
02:05:21,240 --> 02:05:22,240
as possible.

3303
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:23,240
>>

3304
02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:24,240
it's helpful. It's good. The tie ins are

3305
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,240
key so

3306
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:28,240
thank you for those. Good

3307
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,240
comments previously from the councilmembers

3308
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:33,240
on the east portion of the

3309
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,640
project and just awareness

3310
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,240
there. So

3311
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:41,240
I appreciate those

3312
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:45,240
notes. Is the per similar

3313
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,240
monoproject aware and planning

3314
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:51,240
simmon project working on the purple

3315
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,240
or the

3316
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:54,240
blue? There is a road being built

3317
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:56,240
there

3318
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:59,240
that presumably becomes the frontage

3319
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:01,240
road of 45.

3320
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,240
>> correct. We

3321
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,240
have

3322
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:06,240
been working on persimmon. Facilitating

3323
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:07,240
that. So we are

3324
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,240
aware of their latest plan and have

3325
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,640
shared the latest line

3326
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,240
with them so

3327
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:15,240
they can preserve the correct footprint

3328
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:17,240
assuming

3329
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:18,240
the project were to move forward.

3330
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:19,240
>>

3331
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:21,240
is that just footprint

3332
02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:23,240
or am

3333
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:24,240
I correct that east west road they

3334
02:06:24,240 --> 02:06:26,240
are putting

3335
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:28,240
in their project.

3336
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:29,240
>>

3337
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:32,840
it would be compatible now. Still

3338
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:34,240
based on the

3339
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,240
final details. It would generally

3340
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:39,240
be compatible with a future

3341
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,240
45

3342
02:06:42,240 --> 02:06:43,240
gap.

3343
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:44,240
>> that is

3344
02:06:44,240 --> 02:06:45,240
helpful. Did the traffic study, I

3345
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:46,240
appreciate councilmember davidson's

3346
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:48,240
questions and notes

3347
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:49,240
on the traffic study. Did you

3348
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,240
kind of isolate the north south traffic

3349
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,240
and it

3350
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:56,240
is

3351
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,240
primarily

3352
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:00,240
looking alternative east west?

3353
02:07:00,240 --> 02:07:01,240
>>

3354
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:02,240
it

3355
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:03,240
is very much a network based. It is

3356
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:05,240
a

3357
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:09,240
demand model. It is not

3358
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:10,240
really looking at

3359
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:12,240
say, individual vehicles. Like a micro

3360
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:14,640
simulation more. It is

3361
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:17,240
more of a

3362
02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:20,240
macro simulation. It is

3363
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:24,240
a macro level assessment of what the network

3364
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,240
looks like. What

3365
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:29,240
could

3366
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:32,240
be

3367
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:33,240
added to it. Kind of running where

3368
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,240
vehicles shift

3369
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:36,240
around to based on purely looking at

3370
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,240
what the demand would be.

3371
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:39,240
>> one

3372
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:40,240
thing just to add to that, we look

3373
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,240
at

3374
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:43,240
a study area for that. Not necessarily

3375
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,240
isolating

3376
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:46,240
east west or north south. Connections. Or,

3377
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:47,240
movement. It

3378
02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:48,240
is really the study area. And the

3379
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,240
movement

3380
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:53,240
that happens

3381
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:55,240
within that study. Area.

3382
02:07:55,240 --> 02:07:56,240
>>

3383
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:57,240
helpful notes throughout. Yeah. Okay. That helps

3384
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:58,240
me to understand

3385
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:00,240
and interpret it. Is new apartments

3386
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:02,240
on the

3387
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:03,240
west side of the project. Talk to

3388
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,240
me about that interchange

3389
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:08,240
on the west side with those apartments

3390
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:09,240
where they are being built.

3391
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:10,240
>> what

3392
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,240
you see there,

3393
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:13,240
mentioned there would be the 45 main

3394
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,240
lanes, the

3395
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:16,240
controlled access would go over the top

3396
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:18,240
of six and

3397
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,240
26

3398
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:23,240
and connect into

3399
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:24,240
the existing 45 facility. And then,

3400
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:26,240
we would

3401
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:29,240
have some ramps

3402
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:30,240
that would also go. The name of that

3403
02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:32,240
area is big

3404
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:36,240
valley. It is for a reason. It

3405
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:39,240
sits pretty low. So, even with

3406
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:41,240
ramps would

3407
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:44,240
kind

3408
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:46,240
of fly over that quote unquote valley

3409
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:48,240
and be

3410
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:49,240
at a level above that terrain. As

3411
02:08:49,240 --> 02:08:51,240
far as

3412
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,240
the apartments, that is an

3413
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,640
active thing going on

3414
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:58,240
now. Again, yeah.

3415
02:08:58,240 --> 02:09:00,240
>> I can

3416
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:03,240
touch on that. So, the need for preserving

3417
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:06,240
the right of way, this is one

3418
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:09,240
example of that. And so,

3419
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:11,240
in this case,

3420
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:13,240
that

3421
02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:15,240
development did not exist. We could

3422
02:09:15,240 --> 02:09:17,240
not stop them from continuing their

3423
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:18,240
development. We have had multiple

3424
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:19,240
coordination meetings with them. Ensuring

3425
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:21,240
that we

3426
02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:24,240
are able to maintain access

3427
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:28,240
for them. In the final footprint of

3428
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:30,240
the project. While you won't see

3429
02:09:30,240 --> 02:09:31,240
that on the schematic because we don't identify

3430
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:33,240
connections

3431
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:34,240
for thing that's don't exist at the

3432
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,240
time. We have

3433
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:39,240
worked through the

3434
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:40,240
design effort to ensure that they

3435
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:42,240
can access their

3436
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:45,240
property from

3437
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:48,240
this

3438
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:49,240
roadway in the future. There is a portion

3439
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:50,240
of their

3440
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,240
property that has been displaced. Because

3441
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:54,640
we are not ready

3442
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:57,240
to purchase at the time of their

3443
02:09:57,240 --> 02:09:58,240
development. We were not able to avoid

3444
02:09:58,240 --> 02:09:59,240
that. And so,

3445
02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:01,240
the purpose of the preservation of

3446
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:03,240
right of

3447
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:06,240
way as you all know. But, so

3448
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:07,240
at the end of the schematic phase,

3449
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:10,240
there were no displacements. That

3450
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,240
is in fact a displacement that

3451
02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:13,240
will occur in the future if right, it

3452
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:15,640
will occur in the

3453
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:19,240
future if and when the

3454
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,240
project moves

3455
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:23,240
forward.

3456
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:24,240
>>

3457
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:25,240
helpful throughout I guess. How bad? How

3458
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:26,240
much is

3459
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,240
the displacement or unclear? Unclear is

3460
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:30,240
okay if

3461
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:32,240
you don't have an answer.

3462
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:33,240
>> it is, I don't

3463
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:34,240
have a clear number. It is a portion

3464
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,240
of

3465
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:39,240
a building and

3466
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:41,240
some of the parking lot. We have

3467
02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:43,240
identified where their water quality

3468
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:44,240
is. It would

3469
02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:47,840
not put them into non-compliance when

3470
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:52,240
and if that would happen. So it

3471
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:55,240
is a portion of the property and a

3472
02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,640
structure and some of

3473
02:10:58,240 --> 02:10:59,240
the parking

3474
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:01,240
lot. But I don't have a number or

3475
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:02,240
a value for that.

3476
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:04,240
>>

3477
02:11:04,240 --> 02:11:05,240
even

3478
02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:07,240
that is helpful. Thank you. Yeah. Well

3479
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:10,240
let's talk about the project not

3480
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:13,240
if but when. No more use of the

3481
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:15,640
word if. When on

3482
02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:19,240
this project. Even if it is

3483
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:22,240
2045 or when ever. Ultimately, what

3484
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:24,240
it shows for the traffic

3485
02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:25,240
counts and from the traffic study

3486
02:11:25,240 --> 02:11:27,240
is

3487
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:30,240
what is so

3488
02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:32,240
key. That

3489
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,240
massive reduction on 1626 through

3490
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:36,240
downtown, reducing it to

3491
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:40,240
those that want to go downtown. Key

3492
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:42,240
aspects of this project. Thank

3493
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:43,240
you for your work. I guess, just one

3494
02:11:43,240 --> 02:11:45,240
last high level

3495
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:49,240
question. If there is one thing that

3496
02:11:49,240 --> 02:11:51,240
would change that

3497
02:11:52,240 --> 02:11:55,240
would make travis county look

3498
02:11:55,240 --> 02:11:57,240
more

3499
02:11:57,240 --> 02:11:58,240
favorably on this project. Any takes

3500
02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:00,240
more

3501
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:01,240
from a technical study standpoint? Are there

3502
02:12:01,240 --> 02:12:03,240
any particular

3503
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:04,240
things that travis county brings directly

3504
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:06,240
to the

3505
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:08,240
table from a technical and study standpoint that

3506
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:10,240
is

3507
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:12,240
the

3508
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:15,240
number one

3509
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:16,240
thing to change?

3510
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:17,240
>> the biggest thing

3511
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:19,240
is having additional open communication

3512
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,240
with them so we can

3513
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:27,640
explain to them the

3514
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:33,240
edwards

3515
02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:36,640
edwards aquifur zone. This

3516
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,240
portion of the project is in the

3517
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:42,240
transition zone. It is in the

3518
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:43,240
least environmentally sensitive and

3519
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:45,240
very

3520
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:48,240
much less

3521
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:49,240
environmentally sensitive than the

3522
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:51,240
prior

3523
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:52,240
state highway 45 project. Conversations

3524
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:54,240
like that are important

3525
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:55,240
to help them understand we are doing

3526
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:57,240
everything to make

3527
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:01,240
this a sensitive project to

3528
02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,240
the environment. And,

3529
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:06,240
to any edwards aquifer

3530
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:07,240
regulated areas or non-regulated areas. It

3531
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:10,240
is really just that communication. Beyond that,

3532
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:13,240
I don't have an answer for

3533
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:14,240
you.

3534
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:16,240
>> that was a

3535
02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:18,240
great answer. Do

3536
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,240
you want my mic? Thank

3537
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:30,240
you.

3538
02:13:30,240 --> 02:13:31,240
>> any

3539
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:32,240
questions? Comments? Most of my questions asked. I'm

3540
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,240
trying to

3541
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:36,240
stay with the study

3542
02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:38,240
scenario going on. I have 190 acres

3543
02:13:38,240 --> 02:13:40,240
of land required

3544
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:42,240
for the new right of way. You

3545
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:44,240
have one of your meetings. I think

3546
02:13:44,240 --> 02:13:46,240
I went to

3547
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:50,240
two of the three. And,

3548
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:51,240
the

3549
02:13:51,240 --> 02:13:53,240
build no build scenarios. What it

3550
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,240
does to main

3551
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:58,240
street and 967 and

3552
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,240
robert

3553
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:05,240
s. Light. By the numbers, that

3554
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,240
is how

3555
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:11,240
it works. If you live in

3556
02:14:11,240 --> 02:14:13,240
kyle. If

3557
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:16,240
you are south of 1626, check

3558
02:14:16,240 --> 02:14:17,240
near the google apps and try to figure out,

3559
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:19,240
do

3560
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:20,240
I go 35 and work my way over to south

3561
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:22,240
austin

3562
02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:24,240
or up 1626 and work

3563
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:26,240
my way to south austin? And that is

3564
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:29,240
I, don't know how you

3565
02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:30,240
guys did it. I don't know. It's challenging

3566
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,240
to

3567
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:34,240
know those people

3568
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:35,240
that make that decision. There are multiple

3569
02:14:35,240 --> 02:14:37,240
different

3570
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:40,240
ways and we

3571
02:14:41,240 --> 02:14:42,240
are

3572
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:44,240
creating another meandering third

3573
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:47,240
way. If you can say east kyle,

3574
02:14:47,240 --> 02:14:48,240
they make

3575
02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:50,240
that choice every day. They take 1626

3576
02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:51,240
or where this thing is

3577
02:14:51,240 --> 02:14:53,240
built. They will take 35 further. And

3578
02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:56,240
then cut across to the west

3579
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:58,240
to

3580
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:01,240
get

3581
02:15:05,240 --> 02:15:07,240
to the same place. The

3582
02:15:07,240 --> 02:15:08,240
political side of the conversation, it may

3583
02:15:08,240 --> 02:15:10,240
be in

3584
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:11,240
the bond and may not be in the bond

3585
02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:13,240
for the

3586
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:16,240
county side and

3587
02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:19,240
I'm

3588
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:22,240
trying to

3589
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:23,240
understand why. That's not the study. It

3590
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:25,240
is

3591
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:28,240
all fascinating at

3592
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:31,240
this point. Funding,

3593
02:15:32,240 --> 02:15:33,240
is there any funding

3594
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,240
available conceptual? Is there any

3595
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:37,240
funding identified through your

3596
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:38,240
conversations that would push this

3597
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,240
thing

3598
02:15:41,240 --> 02:15:43,240
into a

3599
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:44,240
construction? Into next steps?

3600
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:45,240
>>

3601
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:46,240
there is currently no

3602
02:15:46,240 --> 02:15:47,240
construction funding for this project. We

3603
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:49,240
have identified that

3604
02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:50,240
a project of this nature would likely

3605
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:52,240
need a

3606
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:55,240
larger partnership with

3607
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:56,240
regional partners. The funding that

3608
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,240
was

3609
02:15:58,240 --> 02:15:59,240
identified in the hays county bond

3610
02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:01,240
was

3611
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:05,240
for design and right of way

3612
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:07,640
preservation. And that as

3613
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:10,240
you are aware has

3614
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:11,240
been removed. How they are moving

3615
02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:13,240
forward with

3616
02:16:14,240 --> 02:16:16,240
their

3617
02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:18,240
bond. From the co process. The information

3618
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:20,240
we

3619
02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:21,240
are receiving from hays county, specifically from

3620
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:22,240
commissioner smith

3621
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:23,240
who was here and apologizes for having

3622
02:16:23,240 --> 02:16:25,240
to leave is that this

3623
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:26,240
is still a priority for him and they

3624
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:28,240
are looking for

3625
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:31,240
ways

3626
02:16:32,240 --> 02:16:34,240
to continue

3627
02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:35,240
to advance. The right of way preservation. It is

3628
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:37,240
so important to

3629
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:39,240
preserve this right of way. It becomes

3630
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:41,240
more challenging to purchase that

3631
02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:43,240
right of

3632
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:46,240
way with

3633
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:47,240
the funding identified.

3634
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:48,240
>> nothing

3635
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,240
is getting cheaper. It is

3636
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:53,240
all going up in reality now. And

3637
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:56,240
being one of the items,

3638
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:58,240
it is

3639
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:04,240
not getting cheaper. Further questions?

3640
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:06,240
it is certainly fascinating and I

3641
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:08,240
hope there

3642
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:10,240
is some way to

3643
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:11,240
make this a reality. Because I think

3644
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,240
it helps a

3645
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:15,240
lot of our roads

3646
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:18,240
within buda and the transportation

3647
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:20,240
hurdles we are dealing with now. I

3648
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:23,240
want to see how the

3649
02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:25,240
conversation keeps going

3650
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,240
from this point. Seeing no more comments or questions

3651
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:29,640
I will say thank

3652
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:33,240
you. I appreciate your time and

3653
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:35,240
the

3654
02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:41,640
work in the study.

3655
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:44,240
>>

3656
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:48,240
all right that moves us into

3657
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:50,240
our regular agenda items. K1 is

3658
02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:53,240
deliberation and possible action to

3659
02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:56,240
approve the austin

3660
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,240
street reconstruction 30% schematic

3661
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:03,240
design.

3662
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,240
>> yes, sir, howdy mayor,

3663
02:18:05,240 --> 02:18:08,240
goodnight council. We are very excited

3664
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:09,240
as the bond team to come forward with

3665
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,240
the update. It has

3666
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:14,240
been quite a while since we brought

3667
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:18,240
it back toward council. Over the past

3668
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:19,240
year, staff has been meeting

3669
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:21,240
and improving the design. Meeting

3670
02:18:21,240 --> 02:18:23,240
with property

3671
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,240
and

3672
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,240
business owners along the street. Encountering

3673
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,240
changes and more details. And they

3674
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:32,240
have gotten it

3675
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:35,640
to what we consider

3676
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:38,640
a good 30% schematic design

3677
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:41,240
and

3678
02:18:42,240 --> 02:18:43,240
reach that

3679
02:18:43,240 --> 02:18:45,240
milestone. There's still a lot more

3680
02:18:45,240 --> 02:18:47,240
coordination needing to be

3681
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:48,240
done. However, staff believes that

3682
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,240
a higher

3683
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:51,240
level of detail in the plan sets moving

3684
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:53,240
forward with

3685
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:54,240
the design would help us better answer

3686
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:56,240
those unknowns and

3687
02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:59,240
it is with

3688
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:00,240
that, that staff is recommending approval

3689
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,240
the

3690
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:03,240
design has presented and allowing

3691
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,240
the associates

3692
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:07,240
to proceed with

3693
02:19:07,240 --> 02:19:09,240
the next design phase. This recommendation was

3694
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,240
taken to

3695
02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:12,240
the bond oversight committee on the

3696
02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:14,240
july 31st meeting

3697
02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:17,240
and they

3698
02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:21,240
concurred with that recommendation.

3699
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:23,240
rj

3700
02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:24,240
will walk through the more technical

3701
02:19:24,240 --> 02:19:26,240
bits. Walk

3702
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:27,240
through with what we encountered,

3703
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:29,240
public

3704
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:32,240
comments, what

3705
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:33,240
has been incorporated. Parts of the design

3706
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:35,240
aspects. I will give it

3707
02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:36,240
over to rj.

3708
02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:37,240
>> thank you. I want to

3709
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:38,240
appreciate it. Thank

3710
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:39,240
you mayor council. So yeah. A lot

3711
02:19:39,240 --> 02:19:41,240
has happened since

3712
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:43,240
june was the last time of last year

3713
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:45,240
we presented and the effort since

3714
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:46,240
then has been a lot

3715
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:48,240
of public outreach. A lot of intentional

3716
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:50,240
engagement with the property owners

3717
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:51,240
as you all are aware. It is pretty

3718
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:53,240
difficult to convert back

3719
02:19:53,240 --> 02:19:54,240
of house to front of house. There's

3720
02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:56,240
a lot of challenging areas

3721
02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:59,240
so we have progressed what we have

3722
02:19:59,240 --> 02:20:00,240
been able to progress. And so, the

3723
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:01,240
next three

3724
02:20:01,240 --> 02:20:03,240
slides will summarize what that looks

3725
02:20:03,240 --> 02:20:05,240
like with blue being comments we

3726
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:06,240
have received from the engagement

3727
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:07,240
process that

3728
02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:09,240
still unresolved gray that our items

3729
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:11,240
we have already

3730
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:14,240
been able to resolve. We have incorporated

3731
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:15,240
it into the design. And the red is

3732
02:20:15,240 --> 02:20:16,240
items we have

3733
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:18,240
identified through owners meetings

3734
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:20,240
that are going

3735
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:23,240
to

3736
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,240
follow

3737
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:30,240
up with design changes. So

3738
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:31,240
we can kind of work 27, 72, to

3739
02:20:31,240 --> 02:20:33,240
san antonio street here moving south

3740
02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:35,240
to north. Where

3741
02:20:35,240 --> 02:20:36,240
you can see some of the dumpsters

3742
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:37,240
we had intentionally thought were

3743
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:38,240
going

3744
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:39,240
to be outside of the right of way

3745
02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:41,240
will have to remain in the

3746
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:42,240
right of way. And in other areas. We

3747
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:44,240
will

3748
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:46,240
have to

3749
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:50,440
rework and relocate some poles within it.

3750
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:57,240
similar space, the design hasn't changed

3751
02:20:57,240 --> 02:20:59,240
a whole bunch but it starts to identify

3752
02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:00,240
and solidify what is happening between

3753
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:02,240
peach and

3754
02:21:03,240 --> 02:21:05,240
live oak there

3755
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:09,240
with some of the relocations there

3756
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:11,240
with the modify the design. Moving

3757
02:21:11,240 --> 02:21:12,240
to some shared dumpsters at a couple

3758
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:14,240
of those places. Some of these

3759
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:15,240
properties are working through the

3760
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:17,640
redevelopment ha has been

3761
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:20,240
a piece that is an ongoing discussion,

3762
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:24,240
moving a property on the west side

3763
02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:26,240
to the alley

3764
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:27,240
way and crossing live oak street. And

3765
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:29,240
at the end

3766
02:21:29,240 --> 02:21:30,240
here on the last slide here, similar

3767
02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:32,240
is just really showing and

3768
02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:35,240
highlighting some of the areas that

3769
02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:36,240
are slightly different. If you guys

3770
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:38,240
do

3771
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:40,240
recall in the schematic phase, what

3772
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:42,240
was

3773
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,240
presented, other

3774
02:21:47,240 --> 02:21:48,240
areas that were combined dumpsters,

3775
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:50,240
they have gone into slight

3776
02:21:50,240 --> 02:21:51,240
different lay outs or slight different

3777
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:53,240
designs. So that is where we

3778
02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:54,240
are at in the process. And are able

3779
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,240
to be

3780
02:21:57,240 --> 02:21:59,240
able to get

3781
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:00,240
to at this point. Looking back you

3782
02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:01,240
know at

3783
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:03,240
the overall the design from where

3784
02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:04,240
we are going to where we are trying

3785
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:06,240
to get and understand what is driving

3786
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:09,240
a lot of the decisions and the

3787
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:10,240
issues to get to the final

3788
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:12,240
design is this dumpster decision and

3789
02:22:12,240 --> 02:22:15,240
how we work through with

3790
02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:17,240
each

3791
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:19,240
of the property owners is the litmus

3792
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:21,240
for

3793
02:22:21,240 --> 02:22:23,240
making

3794
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:29,240
sure it

3795
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:30,240
works effectively. We have a better

3796
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:32,240
handle on

3797
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:36,240
what is to be expected. And move through

3798
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,640
that relatively quickly. It

3799
02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:41,240
is right back to

3800
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:42,240
you.

3801
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:43,240
>> thank you rj. To expand a

3802
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:45,240
bit, what rj was

3803
02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:47,240
talking about with the pec bit, we

3804
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:48,240
have this very wordy slide here, there

3805
02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:50,240
is

3806
02:22:50,240 --> 02:22:51,240
a lot of information. And the staff

3807
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:53,240
is met

3808
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:56,640
with pec multiple times

3809
02:22:57,240 --> 02:22:59,240
to discuss what

3810
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,240
options are

3811
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:05,240
possible

3812
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:08,240
with following

3813
02:23:09,240 --> 02:23:11,240
our city

3814
02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:12,240
code. Our waste water treatment plant

3815
02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:13,240
needing that constant power and the

3816
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:15,240
texas childrens we

3817
02:23:15,240 --> 02:23:17,240
are all aware of

3818
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:18,240
needing that dedicated double stack

3819
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:20,240
three-phase line. It

3820
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:24,240
limits where we can go underground. We

3821
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:27,240
have a most likely result that will

3822
02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:29,240
happen is

3823
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:33,240
pec will install an upgrade, the overhead on

3824
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:35,640
market street which will

3825
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:38,640
allow them to install

3826
02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:40,240
underground electric between peach

3827
02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:42,640
and san antonio. Pec

3828
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:44,240
would reconnect all the

3829
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:46,240
services. We wouldn't leave anybody

3830
02:23:46,240 --> 02:23:48,240
hanging and

3831
02:23:49,240 --> 02:23:50,240
pec would remove

3832
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:51,240
the old overhead electric between

3833
02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:53,240
peach and san antonio. To do this,

3834
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:55,240
we need an agreement with pec. Most of

3835
02:23:55,240 --> 02:23:58,240
the funding would come from the

3836
02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:00,240
bond program or

3837
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:01,240
this project. And we need additional

3838
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:03,240
easements for the

3839
02:24:04,240 --> 02:24:07,240
new transformer pads that will

3840
02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:09,240
be servicing

3841
02:24:10,240 --> 02:24:12,240
the underground services. So,

3842
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:13,240
where we are going, there is still

3843
02:24:13,240 --> 02:24:15,240
a

3844
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:18,240
lot to do. We believe a

3845
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:19,240
higher level of design will allow

3846
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:20,240
us to see

3847
02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:22,240
these constraints more quickly. So that

3848
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:24,240
is chi we

3849
02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:27,640
are asking we do

3850
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:30,240
proceed with the next design phase. When

3851
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:31,240
we get the 60% we will get a cost

3852
02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:32,240
estimate

3853
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,240
of potential phasing of the project

3854
02:24:34,240 --> 02:24:36,240
and look at

3855
02:24:37,240 --> 02:24:39,640
additional funding sources for

3856
02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:43,240
it. It will give a better detail

3857
02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:45,240
for the reservation

3858
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:48,240
of

3859
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:53,240
improvements, along the alleys. We

3860
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:57,240
will

3861
02:24:57,240 --> 02:24:58,240
keep the public engagement going. Working

3862
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:00,240
with the

3863
02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:03,240
edc

3864
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:06,240
on the dumpster

3865
02:25:06,240 --> 02:25:07,240
relocations. Once again, recommendation

3866
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:09,240
is to improve

3867
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:10,240
the design as presented. That conclude

3868
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:12,240
it

3869
02:25:13,240 --> 02:25:16,240
is staff report. We are here to

3870
02:25:16,240 --> 02:25:18,240
answer

3871
02:25:19,240 --> 02:25:21,240
few questions y'all might

3872
02:25:21,240 --> 02:25:22,240
have.

3873
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:23,240
>> questions from council? >>

3874
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:24,240
any chance I get

3875
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:25,240
talking to the business owners on

3876
02:25:25,240 --> 02:25:27,240
austin street, I'm

3877
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:30,240
trying

3878
02:25:31,240 --> 02:25:33,240
to

3879
02:25:37,240 --> 02:25:40,240
talk them into this. In order

3880
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:42,240
to make the back an

3881
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:43,240
entrance to. And the back of house

3882
02:25:43,240 --> 02:25:45,240
operations they

3883
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:46,240
have been doing for years. And not

3884
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:48,240
wanting to shake

3885
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:49,240
up their apple cart very much. Trying

3886
02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:51,240
to

3887
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:55,240
encourage more people to access

3888
02:25:55,240 --> 02:25:57,240
their businesses. It

3889
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:00,240
is

3890
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:02,240
a dual

3891
02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:03,240
edged approach. I have been interested

3892
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:04,240
in austin street for another main street

3893
02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:06,240
for as

3894
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:07,240
long as I have been sitting up here. This

3895
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:08,240
is a

3896
02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:10,240
fascinating and great thing. I'm happy

3897
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:12,640
to see we are

3898
02:26:13,240 --> 02:26:15,240
moving forward

3899
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:16,240
on the design side. We will discuss funding

3900
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:17,240
at some point in the future

3901
02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:19,240
because we don't have the funding

3902
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:21,240
for

3903
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:22,240
the construction piece at this point. But

3904
02:26:22,240 --> 02:26:24,240
we will,

3905
02:26:25,240 --> 02:26:27,640
I will be encouraging

3906
02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:31,240
folks to try to get that option

3907
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:32,240
on

3908
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,240
the table. Questions from council? Anyone? Everyone?

3909
02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:36,240
everybody

3910
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:37,240
loves it?

3911
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:38,240
>> I don't really have any

3912
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:39,240
questions

3913
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:40,240
at this time. I just have a, the real

3914
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:42,240
question is keep

3915
02:26:43,240 --> 02:26:44,240
the

3916
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:46,240
high level of engagement. Echoing

3917
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:49,240
some of what you said. It

3918
02:26:49,240 --> 02:26:50,240
is only going to help the experience

3919
02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:51,240
for

3920
02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:52,240
everyone for us to keep our ears open

3921
02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:54,240
and incorporate

3922
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:55,240
as much or mitigate as much of their

3923
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:57,640
concern as we possibly

3924
02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:00,240
can of the existing folks. I

3925
02:27:00,240 --> 02:27:01,240
am hesitant to phrase it this way. But

3926
02:27:01,240 --> 02:27:03,240
short term

3927
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:04,240
pain, long term gain. Short term,

3928
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:06,640
it will be some

3929
02:27:07,240 --> 02:27:09,240
painful months when we

3930
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:10,240
do kick it off. It is major overhaul. When

3931
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:13,240
we look back on it,

3932
02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:15,240
it will be

3933
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:18,240
a

3934
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:21,240
years long process of pain. But

3935
02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:25,240
in the large scheme of things when

3936
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:26,240
we look at

3937
02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:28,240
the improvement that's will happen

3938
02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:29,240
when we look at what is happening

3939
02:27:29,240 --> 02:27:31,240
across the street between main street

3940
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:33,240
and the railroad tracks and the long

3941
02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:34,240
term view there and you add in this

3942
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:36,640
element of austin street

3943
02:27:37,240 --> 02:27:40,240
and what city park is

3944
02:27:40,240 --> 02:27:42,640
continuing to bring. In

3945
02:27:43,240 --> 02:27:46,240
that whole area long term. I believe

3946
02:27:46,240 --> 02:27:48,240
in the project 100%. I

3947
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:49,240
just wanted, if nothing else, give

3948
02:27:49,240 --> 02:27:51,240
you guys

3949
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:52,240
a little bit of motivation. Know you

3950
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:54,240
still have the support to

3951
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:55,240
continue to work. To the mayor's point,

3952
02:27:55,240 --> 02:27:57,240
we are still

3953
02:27:58,240 --> 02:28:01,240
away from funding and turning dirt

3954
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:03,240
out there. But,

3955
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:04,240
this is where we go. To me it is obvious

3956
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:06,240
this

3957
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:08,240
is the way to shape downtown into

3958
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:09,240
keeping

3959
02:28:09,240 --> 02:28:10,240
the charm that we currently have. Which

3960
02:28:10,240 --> 02:28:12,640
is creating a little

3961
02:28:13,240 --> 02:28:15,640
bit more of it

3962
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:18,240
for everyone

3963
02:28:18,240 --> 02:28:19,240
to enjoy. So, but I absolutely understand

3964
02:28:19,240 --> 02:28:22,240
that the short term pain is real

3965
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:23,240
and it will be channeling. So just

3966
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:25,240
stay engaged and

3967
02:28:25,240 --> 02:28:27,240
keep trying to mitigate

3968
02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:28,240
where you can. Thank you guys.

3969
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:29,240
>>

3970
02:28:29,240 --> 02:28:31,240
what's the

3971
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:33,240
plan for texas

3972
02:28:33,240 --> 02:28:34,240
children's hospital at this point?

3973
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:35,240
>>

3974
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:37,240
micah might

3975
02:28:37,240 --> 02:28:39,240
know more than me. But,

3976
02:28:39,240 --> 02:28:40,240
the plan is currently delayed. They

3977
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:41,240
have not broken ground up there. I don't

3978
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:42,240
know

3979
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:43,240
if there is a given time line on when

3980
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:45,240
they will

3981
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:46,240
actually start initiating the improvement.

3982
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:47,240
>>

3983
02:28:47,240 --> 02:28:48,240
do you have an

3984
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:49,240
idea about roughly where that would

3985
02:28:49,240 --> 02:28:50,240
be?

3986
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:52,240
>> the

3987
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,240
hospital itself? Yes, ma'am. It

3988
02:28:54,240 --> 02:28:55,240
is located near per year and old san

3989
02:28:55,240 --> 02:28:56,240
antonio.

3990
02:28:56,240 --> 02:28:58,240
>> okay. I just need

3991
02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:01,240
to make sure I told somebody

3992
02:29:01,240 --> 02:29:03,240
else

3993
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:05,240
that correct information already. Thank

3994
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:06,240
you.

3995
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:07,240
>> do

3996
02:29:07,240 --> 02:29:08,240
you mind flipping back to the pec

3997
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:10,240
slide again? Thank

3998
02:29:10,240 --> 02:29:12,240
you. And

3999
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,240
I caught most of it. I mess maybe

4000
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:16,240
a simple question. High level is just

4001
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:19,240
how much does this factor into the

4002
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:21,240
potential

4003
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:23,240
cost of the project?

4004
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:24,240
>> could be a

4005
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:25,240
good deal of it. Yes, sir.

4006
02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:26,240
>> that

4007
02:29:26,240 --> 02:29:28,240
is

4008
02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:36,240
>> I'll say,

4009
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:39,240
most well-oriented downtown you could

4010
02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:40,240
make it for the long-term future ,

4011
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:41,240
right? It's valuable. I appreciate

4012
02:29:41,240 --> 02:29:43,240
these conversations as well as all

4013
02:29:43,240 --> 02:29:45,240
the businesses.

4014
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:49,240
just like you have outlined,

4015
02:29:50,240 --> 02:29:52,240
this is helpful. Thanks for watching

4016
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,240
these through.

4017
02:29:58,240 --> 02:29:59,240
budget once we

4018
02:29:59,240 --> 02:30:01,240
get a cost estimate we will get a

4019
02:30:01,240 --> 02:30:02,240
better eye on what these

4020
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:04,240
improvements would likely mean. One

4021
02:30:04,240 --> 02:30:07,240
thing I did not quite emphasize

4022
02:30:07,240 --> 02:30:08,240
on here,

4023
02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:10,240
we would use the texas children's

4024
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:12,240
aspect as much as we could to positively

4025
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:13,240
position some polls, that would be beneficial

4026
02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:15,240
for

4027
02:30:16,240 --> 02:30:18,240
the project

4028
02:30:18,240 --> 02:30:19,240
with these other aspects.

4029
02:30:19,240 --> 02:30:21,240
>> good notes.

4030
02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:27,640
>> that's a good point.

4031
02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:30,240
since

4032
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:32,240
the new

4033
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:34,240
transmission line is in the works

4034
02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:39,400
to do this, we are not going to

4035
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:43,240
be excited about them coming into

4036
02:30:43,240 --> 02:30:44,240
main street. So,

4037
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:46,240
if we can push -- I want to say this

4038
02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:49,240
is a negotiating tool for

4039
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:50,240
us, but, stopping short

4040
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:52,240
of saying we don't want anything on

4041
02:30:52,240 --> 02:30:53,240
main street. We spent a lot of money

4042
02:30:53,240 --> 02:30:54,240
to

4043
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:55,240
clean up main street. It was kind

4044
02:30:55,240 --> 02:30:57,640
of a sucker punch

4045
02:31:00,240 --> 02:31:01,240
when they come in and say, let's put

4046
02:31:01,240 --> 02:31:02,240
a big transmission

4047
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:03,240
line where you just spent millions

4048
02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:04,240
of dollars to put it underground.

4049
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:06,240
all of that

4050
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:07,240
being said, if we can combine the effort

4051
02:31:07,240 --> 02:31:09,240
,

4052
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:13,840
and I would say a win-win,

4053
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:19,240
they could find a way to work the

4054
02:31:19,240 --> 02:31:21,240
two projects together, and benefit

4055
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:26,400
both sides. I think that is an opportunity

4056
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:30,240
.

4057
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:34,240
>> any other questions or comments?

4058
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:36,240
public testimony on this item? Well,

4059
02:31:36,240 --> 02:31:40,240
I will make the motion that we approve

4060
02:31:40,240 --> 02:31:41,240
the reconstruction 30%

4061
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:43,240
schematic design for austin street,

4062
02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:44,240
as presented. Emotion and a second?

4063
02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:46,240
all

4064
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:48,640
in favor? Any opposed?

4065
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:51,640
motion carries. Thank you.

4066
02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:54,240
all right, k 2.

4067
02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:57,240
possible deliberation to avoid

4068
02:31:57,240 --> 02:31:58,240
a master service agreement for general

4069
02:31:58,240 --> 02:32:00,240
engineering services

4070
02:32:01,240 --> 02:32:03,240
not to exceed

4071
02:32:04,240 --> 02:32:06,240
$562,003.76 .

4072
02:32:07,240 --> 02:32:09,240
to

4073
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:12,240
hdr engineering,

4074
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:14,240
executing

4075
02:32:14,240 --> 02:32:16,240
task order number one for fm 2770

4076
02:32:16,240 --> 02:32:18,240
wastewater improvements

4077
02:32:19,240 --> 02:32:22,240
, not to exceed amount of $562,003.76,

4078
02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:24,240
in conjunction with the

4079
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:27,840
interlocal agreement between the city of

4080
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:29,240
buda and buda

4081
02:32:29,240 --> 02:32:30,240
economic development corporation to

4082
02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:31,240
design and construct utilities along

4083
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:33,240
fm 2770.

4084
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:35,240
>> thank you, mayor. Didn't make it

4085
02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,240
short

4086
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:40,240
on you. This is both

4087
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:42,640
a recommendation to award

4088
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,240
an msa, with

4089
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,240
hdr engineering

4090
02:32:49,240 --> 02:32:50,240
, or master services agreement

4091
02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:52,240
for general engineering services,

4092
02:32:52,240 --> 02:32:55,240
and then, to also secure

4093
02:32:55,240 --> 02:32:57,240
task order number one, which would

4094
02:32:57,240 --> 02:32:58,240
be those fm 2770 wastewater improvements.

4095
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:00,240
y'all may recall

4096
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:03,840
that back in april, 2025, you executed

4097
02:33:04,240 --> 02:33:07,240
and il-8 with the edc,

4098
02:33:13,240 --> 02:33:15,240
and interlocal agreement

4099
02:33:15,240 --> 02:33:16,240
and allowing the city and edc to enter

4100
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:17,240
into a cooperative purchasing program,

4101
02:33:17,240 --> 02:33:18,240
to

4102
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:19,240
fund engineering design services related

4103
02:33:19,240 --> 02:33:20,240
to construction of water and wastewater

4104
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:22,240
lines to save properties along

4105
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:24,640
fm 2770. This project, itself,

4106
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:28,240
the cip is focusing solely on the

4107
02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:30,240
wastewater aspect

4108
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:33,240
. Blake and I

4109
02:33:33,240 --> 02:33:34,240
are currently working on the water side

4110
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:37,240
and we will bring that to you, soon,

4111
02:33:37,240 --> 02:33:39,640
as well. Hdr was

4112
02:33:40,240 --> 02:33:42,640
selected using our prequalified

4113
02:33:43,240 --> 02:33:47,440
consultants list, it is the same resolution

4114
02:33:48,240 --> 02:33:49,240
, and it should be noted that the

4115
02:33:49,240 --> 02:33:50,240
msa is a general

4116
02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:52,240
engineering services contract. It

4117
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:55,240
includes all of the services that hdr

4118
02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:57,240
offers within

4119
02:33:58,240 --> 02:34:01,240
what they submitted for that rfq .

4120
02:34:01,240 --> 02:34:03,240
and then

4121
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:07,240
this task order itself is

4122
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:09,240
the one focusing solely on the wastewater.

4123
02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:10,240
the scope that they presented to us

4124
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:12,240
involves designing about

4125
02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:15,240
8200 linear feet

4126
02:34:16,240 --> 02:34:18,640
of hopefully gravity wastewater

4127
02:34:19,240 --> 02:34:21,240
maine, adjacent to

4128
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,240
2770 and neighboring roads. The scope

4129
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:28,240
has been broken down into seven main tasks,

4130
02:34:28,240 --> 02:34:29,240
with the main goal

4131
02:34:29,240 --> 02:34:31,240
ending with a construction plan set

4132
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:32,240
at the end of it which is ready to

4133
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:33,240
go

4134
02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:34,240
to bed, and hdr providing construction

4135
02:34:34,240 --> 02:34:36,640
phase services with that,

4136
02:34:37,240 --> 02:34:39,240
as well.

4137
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:44,440
total cost for the msa is $562 --

4138
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:49,240
$562,003.76,

4139
02:34:49,240 --> 02:34:53,240
to match the amount proposed in task

4140
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,240
order 1.

4141
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:56,240
this is a time and materials contract

4142
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:57,240
with

4143
02:34:57,240 --> 02:34:59,240
a not to exceed amount. No funding

4144
02:34:59,240 --> 02:35:01,240
is requested right

4145
02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:04,240
now, and

4146
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:06,240
any

4147
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:07,240
future additions to this msa will

4148
02:35:07,240 --> 02:35:08,240
come as amendments to council. So,

4149
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:09,240
if

4150
02:35:09,240 --> 02:35:10,240
we do want to engage another project

4151
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:14,240
with hdr to expand that msa, it would

4152
02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:16,640
come as an amendment

4153
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:19,240
, because right now, we are asking

4154
02:35:19,240 --> 02:35:21,240
that it just be included to the scope

4155
02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:23,240
of task order 1. That is why those

4156
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:24,240
are the same amount. The buda adc

4157
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:26,240
has pledged 540,000 for this design

4158
02:35:26,240 --> 02:35:29,240
project under the ila, and

4159
02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:36,240
the pros and cons with this project,

4160
02:35:36,240 --> 02:35:37,240
the city will continue its partnership

4161
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:38,240
with the edc, increasing the develop

4162
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:40,240
ability along

4163
02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:43,240
the 2770 corridor.

4164
02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:47,240
following along with the future conference

4165
02:35:47,240 --> 02:35:48,240
of plan and land

4166
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:50,240
use map , so that the identified parcels

4167
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:52,240
along this roadway,

4168
02:35:55,240 --> 02:35:56,240
most of which are light industrial

4169
02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:57,240
in our land use map,

4170
02:35:57,240 --> 02:36:00,240
but several large properties along

4171
02:36:04,240 --> 02:36:05,240
fm 2770 and 1626 are identified as

4172
02:36:05,240 --> 02:36:06,240
a corridor commercial,

4173
02:36:06,240 --> 02:36:07,240
which could bring several different

4174
02:36:07,240 --> 02:36:08,240
types of businesses to buda that we

4175
02:36:08,240 --> 02:36:10,240
would potentially be

4176
02:36:11,240 --> 02:36:13,640
able to offer city

4177
02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:16,240
services, too.

4178
02:36:17,240 --> 02:36:19,640
the cons being that

4179
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,240
$552,003.76 is

4180
02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:23,240
more than the 540 we initially scoped

4181
02:36:23,240 --> 02:36:25,240
for the

4182
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:28,240
cip. However,

4183
02:36:28,240 --> 02:36:29,240
public works director blake nevin

4184
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:30,240
both and I thought it would

4185
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:32,240
be prudent to ask hdr to throw in

4186
02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:33,240
a feasibility report for

4187
02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:35,240
this project. There is potentially

4188
02:36:35,240 --> 02:36:37,240
a few

4189
02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:41,440
alignments we could take with this project,

4190
02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:44,240
and some are constrained on capacity.

4191
02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:45,240
they are different sizes,

4192
02:36:45,240 --> 02:36:47,240
and if we are wanting to design this

4193
02:36:47,240 --> 02:36:49,240
for the

4194
02:36:49,240 --> 02:36:53,440
long term master planning of this area

4195
02:36:59,240 --> 02:37:00,240
, to ensure that we do not have to

4196
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:02,240
go in and redesign it when it does

4197
02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:03,240
get fully developed, we want that

4198
02:37:03,240 --> 02:37:04,240
for

4199
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:05,240
the feasibility report to show us

4200
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:06,240
the ideal alignment which will benefit

4201
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:07,240
us in the

4202
02:37:07,240 --> 02:37:08,240
future and the constructibility and

4203
02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:10,240
mary those two.

4204
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:11,240
alternatives, if council would like,

4205
02:37:11,240 --> 02:37:13,240
we can go

4206
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:16,640
back and renegotiate with

4207
02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:20,240
the scope if it does not match counsel's desire.

4208
02:37:20,240 --> 02:37:23,240
I will note that we

4209
02:37:23,240 --> 02:37:25,240
have gotten this

4210
02:37:25,240 --> 02:37:26,240
about three turns with the scope,

4211
02:37:26,240 --> 02:37:28,240
blake and I,

4212
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:29,240
with hdr , there is a real good collaboration

4213
02:37:29,240 --> 02:37:30,240
on

4214
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:34,240
talking through some of the parts that

4215
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:37,840
we thought may not be unnecessary,

4216
02:37:41,240 --> 02:37:42,240
streamlining the scope and we

4217
02:37:42,240 --> 02:37:43,240
believe we got it to a point that

4218
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:44,240
it meets all of our expectations and

4219
02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:46,240
can deliver

4220
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:47,240
quality product. With that, staff

4221
02:37:47,240 --> 02:37:48,240
recommends the approval of the msa

4222
02:37:48,240 --> 02:37:51,840
which with hdr engineering inc. For

4223
02:37:53,240 --> 02:37:56,240
services in an amount not to exceed

4224
02:37:56,240 --> 02:37:58,240
562,000

4225
02:37:59,240 --> 02:38:01,240
dollars,

4226
02:38:02,240 --> 02:38:04,240
approving task order 1

4227
02:38:05,240 --> 02:38:06,240
for that same amount for 2770 wastewater

4228
02:38:06,240 --> 02:38:07,240
improvements.

4229
02:38:07,240 --> 02:38:10,240
>> thank you. Questions on this one?

4230
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:11,240
>> just one, thank you. The question

4231
02:38:11,240 --> 02:38:13,240
is just,

4232
02:38:17,240 --> 02:38:18,240
I guess

4233
02:38:18,240 --> 02:38:19,240
they think it was around the whole presentation

4234
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:20,240
with the work here, but specifically

4235
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:22,240
including the

4236
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:23,240
feasibility, because there is a lot

4237
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:25,240
of

4238
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:28,240
different potential

4239
02:38:29,240 --> 02:38:30,240
around that corner,

4240
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:32,240
and the end of this line, or along

4241
02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:33,240
the line, I should say. The whole

4242
02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:35,240
thing.

4243
02:38:35,240 --> 02:38:37,240
what will that tell us

4244
02:38:37,240 --> 02:38:38,240
that the original study would not?

4245
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:39,240
I think in the

4246
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:41,240
original study, there is some degree

4247
02:38:41,240 --> 02:38:44,240
of incorporating some buildout, I think.

4248
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:46,240
the feasibility

4249
02:38:47,240 --> 02:38:48,240
is just telling you about even

4250
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:50,240
more potentials on the buildout. What

4251
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:51,240
is the difference between that

4252
02:38:51,240 --> 02:38:52,240
and the baseline?

4253
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:53,240
>> so, the buildout

4254
02:38:53,240 --> 02:38:55,640
has, to my knowledge

4255
02:38:58,240 --> 02:38:59,240
, stayed roughly the same it is just

4256
02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:00,240
that we have

4257
02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:01,240
more areas we could connect to, and

4258
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:02,240
they all offer varying degrees of

4259
02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:04,240
capacity.

4260
02:39:05,240 --> 02:39:07,240
some above

4261
02:39:08,240 --> 02:39:09,240
railroad

4262
02:39:09,240 --> 02:39:10,240
crossings, some involve potentially

4263
02:39:10,240 --> 02:39:11,240
the need for another lift station.

4264
02:39:11,240 --> 02:39:13,640
we would like to

4265
02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:16,240
look through

4266
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:17,240
the feasibility, and see what makes sense

4267
02:39:17,240 --> 02:39:18,240
now, and what can serve

4268
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:19,240
the city long-term.

4269
02:39:19,240 --> 02:39:20,240
>> okay. And,

4270
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:23,240
is that with different degrees of

4271
02:39:23,240 --> 02:39:25,240
potential lue

4272
02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:28,240
at the

4273
02:39:28,240 --> 02:39:29,240
south end of that line?

4274
02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:30,240
>> we have

4275
02:39:30,240 --> 02:39:32,240
asked hdr

4276
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,240
to do

4277
02:39:35,240 --> 02:39:37,240
, is to take the future land

4278
02:39:37,240 --> 02:39:38,240
use map and assume the most aggressive

4279
02:39:38,240 --> 02:39:40,240
form of lue,

4280
02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:43,240
that is

4281
02:39:44,240 --> 02:39:45,240
where we would have the line itself

4282
02:39:45,240 --> 02:39:46,240
to

4283
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:47,240
want to design to, and in the feasibility study

4284
02:39:47,240 --> 02:39:48,240
it

4285
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:49,240
would execute which alignment would

4286
02:39:49,240 --> 02:39:50,240
serve that purpose.

4287
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:52,240
>> cool, thanks.

4288
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:55,240
>> questions, comments?

4289
02:39:56,240 --> 02:39:58,240
does

4290
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:01,240
anyone want to make a motion for this one?

4291
02:40:01,240 --> 02:40:02,240
>> mayor, I will make a motion that we

4292
02:40:02,240 --> 02:40:04,240
award the msa

4293
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:07,240
as presented.

4294
02:40:07,240 --> 02:40:08,240
>> we have a mission and a second.

4295
02:40:08,240 --> 02:40:10,240
all those in favor? No

4296
02:40:10,240 --> 02:40:11,240
public testimony? A missionary second,

4297
02:40:11,240 --> 02:40:13,640
all those in favor?

4298
02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:16,640
any opposed? All right.

4299
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:19,240
motion carries.

4300
02:40:19,240 --> 02:40:20,240
>> do we need to execute the task

4301
02:40:20,240 --> 02:40:22,240
order, too?

4302
02:40:23,240 --> 02:40:25,240
no? All right.

4303
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:27,240
>> it was as presented. >> awesome.

4304
02:40:27,240 --> 02:40:29,240
thank you.

4305
02:40:29,240 --> 02:40:32,240
>> good question, thank you. All right.

4306
02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:34,240
k3.

4307
02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:38,240
adopt resolution establishing a policy

4308
02:40:38,240 --> 02:40:41,240
related to artificial intelligence systems

4309
02:40:47,240 --> 02:40:49,240
used by or on behalf of the city

4310
02:40:49,240 --> 02:40:50,240
of buda to guide the ethical and responsible

4311
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:51,240
use of artificial intelligence technologies,

4312
02:40:51,240 --> 02:40:52,240
and providing

4313
02:40:52,240 --> 02:40:53,240
for an effective date. Mr. Cameron?

4314
02:40:53,240 --> 02:40:55,240
>> good evening, mayor

4315
02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:57,240
and council. Recent state bills that

4316
02:40:57,240 --> 02:40:59,240
were passed

4317
02:40:59,240 --> 02:41:01,240
, house bill 150, 3512,

4318
02:41:02,240 --> 02:41:04,240
149,

4319
02:41:05,240 --> 02:41:08,240
and the senate bill 1964, set

4320
02:41:08,240 --> 02:41:11,240
the groundwork for a regulatory structure for

4321
02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:13,240
local governments

4322
02:41:14,240 --> 02:41:16,240
.

4323
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:22,240
sorry.

4324
02:41:23,240 --> 02:41:26,240
groundwork for local governments in

4325
02:41:26,240 --> 02:41:29,240
the regulation of a.I. Systems.

4326
02:41:29,240 --> 02:41:31,640
outlined to the dir.

4327
02:41:35,240 --> 02:41:37,640
the policy that we

4328
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:41,240
have created for you, is based

4329
02:41:41,240 --> 02:41:43,640
on the template from

4330
02:41:44,240 --> 02:41:46,240
geo vai

4331
02:41:46,240 --> 02:41:49,240
, a coalition of city governments,

4332
02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:53,240
some other cities within texas that

4333
02:41:53,240 --> 02:41:55,640
have used them, this

4334
02:41:56,240 --> 02:41:58,640
template specifically san antonio,

4335
02:41:59,240 --> 02:42:01,240
austin, round rock

4336
02:42:01,240 --> 02:42:02,240
and waco. With relevance to a.I.,

4337
02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:05,840
it is important to get ahead

4338
02:42:06,240 --> 02:42:08,240
of it.

4339
02:42:08,240 --> 02:42:09,240
it is a rapidly changing and emerging

4340
02:42:09,240 --> 02:42:10,240
technology, it is

4341
02:42:10,240 --> 02:42:12,240
important to have some form of policy

4342
02:42:12,240 --> 02:42:15,240
in place for how we treat it.

4343
02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:18,240
the policy ensures social good

4344
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:20,240
, ethical,

4345
02:42:21,240 --> 02:42:23,240
non-discriminant

4346
02:42:24,240 --> 02:42:26,240
agent, and

4347
02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:27,240
use in government services. The policy in

4348
02:42:27,240 --> 02:42:29,240
front

4349
02:42:30,240 --> 02:42:32,240
of you,

4350
02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:34,240
a couple wave

4351
02:42:34,240 --> 02:42:35,240
tops on it, it has some definitions

4352
02:42:35,240 --> 02:42:39,440
to include what we consider artificial intelligence

4353
02:42:41,240 --> 02:42:42,240
, the scope of who it applies to,

4354
02:42:42,240 --> 02:42:43,240
staff, interns,

4355
02:42:43,240 --> 02:42:44,240
consultants, contractors, basically

4356
02:42:44,240 --> 02:42:45,240
anyone performing work on behalf of

4357
02:42:45,240 --> 02:42:47,240
the city of

4358
02:42:47,240 --> 02:42:48,240
buda. Outline responsibility of the

4359
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:49,240
users,

4360
02:42:49,240 --> 02:42:51,240
and addresses what is considered pii

4361
02:42:51,240 --> 02:42:53,240
, specifically on how not

4362
02:42:53,240 --> 02:42:58,400
to use it within the a.I. Systems.

4363
02:43:00,240 --> 02:43:01,240
identifies prevented and preapproved

4364
02:43:01,240 --> 02:43:03,240
a.I. Platforms and creates a process

4365
02:43:03,240 --> 02:43:05,240
for requesting new ones, and

4366
02:43:05,240 --> 02:43:08,840
this will be incorporated into the

4367
02:43:09,240 --> 02:43:11,240
employee handbook .

4368
02:43:12,240 --> 02:43:14,240
any questions ?

4369
02:43:15,240 --> 02:43:17,640
>> first of all, thank

4370
02:43:18,240 --> 02:43:19,240
you for looking out for

4371
02:43:19,240 --> 02:43:21,240
us, and making our changes as we need

4372
02:43:21,240 --> 02:43:24,240
to, as the world changes

4373
02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:27,240
around us. Weston from counsel?

4374
02:43:27,240 --> 02:43:29,240
ms. Williams?

4375
02:43:33,240 --> 02:43:34,240
>> good evening, cameron, thank you

4376
02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:35,240
very

4377
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:36,240
much for sharing this information.

4378
02:43:36,240 --> 02:43:38,240
I have a couple of really quick questions.

4379
02:43:38,240 --> 02:43:39,240
in the analysis, you're saying that

4380
02:43:39,240 --> 02:43:40,240
the policy is

4381
02:43:40,240 --> 02:43:42,240
going to outline what constitutes

4382
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,240
an incident?

4383
02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:45,240
and, in response to an incident that

4384
02:43:45,240 --> 02:43:47,640
results from improper use?

4385
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:50,240
how do you control that

4386
02:43:50,240 --> 02:43:51,240
with a consultant and contractor?

4387
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:54,240
>> that is something that we

4388
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:56,240
will have to work with

4389
02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:57,240
purchasing on working into our contract

4390
02:43:57,240 --> 02:43:59,240
language. It would

4391
02:43:59,240 --> 02:44:02,840
be relatively the same process , isolating

4392
02:44:03,240 --> 02:44:04,240
the offending device, whether

4393
02:44:04,240 --> 02:44:07,840
that is a laptop, desktop server,

4394
02:44:09,240 --> 02:44:13,440
isolating it and addressing it from there,

4395
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:15,240
seeing what has been affected, and

4396
02:44:15,240 --> 02:44:17,240
how

4397
02:44:17,240 --> 02:44:18,240
we need to rollback to get to a functional

4398
02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:19,240
state.

4399
02:44:19,240 --> 02:44:20,240
>> can you give me

4400
02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:21,240
an example of what a negative incident

4401
02:44:21,240 --> 02:44:23,240
would be?

4402
02:44:27,240 --> 02:44:30,240
>> say that a contractor comes in

4403
02:44:30,240 --> 02:44:32,240
with a

4404
02:44:32,240 --> 02:44:33,240
platform that have developed to use

4405
02:44:33,240 --> 02:44:36,240
for the city, and it

4406
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:38,240
goes out and

4407
02:44:43,240 --> 02:44:44,240
gets access to our shared drives.

4408
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:45,240
we would want to isolate that, obviously,

4409
02:44:45,240 --> 02:44:46,240
pull

4410
02:44:46,240 --> 02:44:48,240
it off the network, see what it has

4411
02:44:48,240 --> 02:44:49,240
gotten access to, see whether the

4412
02:44:49,240 --> 02:44:50,240
data

4413
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:51,240
is stored or shared, make sure nothing

4414
02:44:51,240 --> 02:44:53,640
has been deleted or

4415
02:44:54,240 --> 02:44:56,240
copied down.

4416
02:44:56,240 --> 02:44:57,240
and address it in that capacity.

4417
02:44:57,240 --> 02:44:58,240
>>

4418
02:44:58,240 --> 02:44:59,240
we are more concerned about

4419
02:44:59,240 --> 02:45:00,240
whether or not they gain access to

4420
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:01,240
secured information that should not

4421
02:45:01,240 --> 02:45:03,240
have

4422
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:05,240
access to?

4423
02:45:05,240 --> 02:45:06,240
>> yes, ma'am, that is just one sample.

4424
02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:08,240
>> okay. Thank you.

4425
02:45:09,240 --> 02:45:11,240
>> questions, comments?

4426
02:45:15,240 --> 02:45:17,640
>> I got the button

4427
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:20,640
to work. Thank you

4428
02:45:21,240 --> 02:45:24,240
. Overall, I think it is a very responsible

4429
02:45:24,240 --> 02:45:27,240
comprehensive policy. As we start

4430
02:45:27,240 --> 02:45:30,240
to explore and mess around a

4431
02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:33,240
little bit with a.I.

4432
02:45:33,240 --> 02:45:35,240
,

4433
02:45:36,240 --> 02:45:37,240
when I first went through

4434
02:45:37,240 --> 02:45:39,240
and read this I thought it was a bit

4435
02:45:39,240 --> 02:45:41,240
too restrictive,

4436
02:45:42,240 --> 02:45:43,240
I know there are a lot of capabilities we could

4437
02:45:43,240 --> 02:45:45,240
potentially

4438
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:46,240
use for automation, but pii and automation

4439
02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:47,240
has a

4440
02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:48,240
bit of conflict there, so, I think

4441
02:45:48,240 --> 02:45:50,640
I am good with

4442
02:45:53,240 --> 02:45:54,240
it as written, but I think that when

4443
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:56,240
you start to get

4444
02:45:56,240 --> 02:45:57,240
those exceptions and requests like

4445
02:45:57,240 --> 02:45:59,240
a, we want to

4446
02:45:59,240 --> 02:46:00,240
do this and it meets all these criteria,

4447
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:01,240
and state policies and everything

4448
02:46:01,240 --> 02:46:03,240
else, we

4449
02:46:03,240 --> 02:46:06,240
are protecting pii, which is

4450
02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:12,240
super important, that is maybe when

4451
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:14,240
we come back and look to amend it

4452
02:46:14,240 --> 02:46:15,240
and loosen it up a bit, we will have more

4453
02:46:15,240 --> 02:46:16,240
experience with it as well. Other

4454
02:46:16,240 --> 02:46:18,240
than that, just general comments,

4455
02:46:18,240 --> 02:46:19,240
I think you are already doing this,

4456
02:46:19,240 --> 02:46:20,240
but,

4457
02:46:20,240 --> 02:46:21,240
make it easy for people to do the

4458
02:46:21,240 --> 02:46:23,240
right thing ,

4459
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:26,240
sedlock devices,

4460
02:46:26,240 --> 02:46:27,240
lock the network and do whatever you

4461
02:46:27,240 --> 02:46:29,240
can to prevent people from doing the

4462
02:46:29,240 --> 02:46:30,240
wrong thing on accident. And then

4463
02:46:30,240 --> 02:46:33,240
training is critical. So, both

4464
02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:36,240
from what not to do, but also from

4465
02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:37,240
a, hey, here's how to prompt the best

4466
02:46:37,240 --> 02:46:39,240
way, here

4467
02:46:39,240 --> 02:46:42,240
is how to use these things.

4468
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:45,240
I think you can do a

4469
02:46:45,240 --> 02:46:46,240
lot of good. And see where things

4470
02:46:46,240 --> 02:46:48,240
evolve.

4471
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:49,240
thank you.

4472
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:50,240
>>

4473
02:46:50,240 --> 02:46:53,840
any public testimony on this one?

4474
02:46:54,240 --> 02:46:56,640
anyone want to make

4475
02:46:57,240 --> 02:46:59,240
the motion?

4476
02:47:06,240 --> 02:47:08,640
>> moved to approve k3

4477
02:47:09,240 --> 02:47:11,240
as presented.

4478
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:13,240
>> we have a motion

4479
02:47:13,240 --> 02:47:15,240
and a second. All those in favor?

4480
02:47:15,240 --> 02:47:17,240
any opposed? Motion

4481
02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:20,240
carries. Thank you.

4482
02:47:21,240 --> 02:47:23,240
k for .

4483
02:47:24,240 --> 02:47:25,240
deliberation and possible action to

4484
02:47:25,240 --> 02:47:27,240
award

4485
02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:29,240
rf p 25-255

4486
02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:31,240
buda sportsplex softball and soccer

4487
02:47:31,240 --> 02:47:33,240
field

4488
02:47:33,240 --> 02:47:36,240
complex to g hyatt construction

4489
02:47:36,240 --> 02:47:37,240
inc., and to authorize the city manager

4490
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:38,240
to

4491
02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:41,840
negotiate and execute a contract. Tony?

4492
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:44,240
>> good

4493
02:47:44,240 --> 02:47:47,240
evening, counsel. How y'all doing?

4494
02:47:48,240 --> 02:47:51,240
I'll try to keep this as short as

4495
02:47:51,240 --> 02:47:54,240
I can. For the project,

4496
02:47:54,240 --> 02:47:57,240
obviously we went out to bid once

4497
02:47:57,240 --> 02:48:00,240
, there was an issue, we had to do

4498
02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:02,240
some things, the

4499
02:48:02,240 --> 02:48:03,240
last few weeks we have been working

4500
02:48:03,240 --> 02:48:05,240
on trying to get a contract

4501
02:48:05,240 --> 02:48:06,240
done, thankfully with the help of dcs

4502
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:08,640
and staff, we got

4503
02:48:09,240 --> 02:48:11,240
it done. These are

4504
02:48:11,240 --> 02:48:13,240
some of the cost savings on the project

4505
02:48:13,240 --> 02:48:15,240
that we negotiated

4506
02:48:15,240 --> 02:48:16,240
with the contractor. Utility contractor

4507
02:48:16,240 --> 02:48:18,240
is based

4508
02:48:19,240 --> 02:48:20,240
in buda

4509
02:48:20,240 --> 02:48:22,240
waves the mobilization fee which is

4510
02:48:22,240 --> 02:48:23,240
nice. Have used them on

4511
02:48:23,240 --> 02:48:25,240
several of our projects, so they gave

4512
02:48:25,240 --> 02:48:28,240
us a big contract discount.

4513
02:48:28,240 --> 02:48:30,240
we reduced

4514
02:48:31,240 --> 02:48:33,240
--I reduced the contract,

4515
02:48:33,240 --> 02:48:36,840
I allowed 50 more days because they

4516
02:48:37,240 --> 02:48:38,240
had already liquidated built

4517
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:40,240
into the contract so extended that

4518
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:41,240
50 days to get rid of the

4519
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:43,240
$100,000 they would bill us for, which

4520
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:45,240
does not cost me anything,

4521
02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:47,240
it still gets me what I need to get

4522
02:48:47,240 --> 02:48:49,240
completed, so I think that was a win

4523
02:48:49,240 --> 02:48:51,640
for both of us.

4524
02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:54,240
electrical's implications,

4525
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:00,240
clarification issued after bid, there

4526
02:49:00,240 --> 02:49:01,240
were some things we were negotiating,

4527
02:49:01,240 --> 02:49:02,240
and then on tuesday

4528
02:49:02,240 --> 02:49:05,840
was the deadline, and then afterwards,

4529
02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:07,240
he called to say hey, I got extra

4530
02:49:07,240 --> 02:49:08,240
money from my

4531
02:49:08,240 --> 02:49:09,240
electric engineer, my electrical companies,

4532
02:49:09,240 --> 02:49:13,240
so he gave us a bit of a discount.

4533
02:49:13,240 --> 02:49:15,240
we also sympathize the

4534
02:49:15,240 --> 02:49:17,240
traffic control. It is not nearly as rigorous

4535
02:49:17,240 --> 02:49:19,240
as what we had put, but it is definitely

4536
02:49:19,240 --> 02:49:21,640
stupefied. We have eliminated

4537
02:49:22,240 --> 02:49:23,240
masonry

4538
02:49:23,240 --> 02:49:25,240
walls for the dugouts and replaced

4539
02:49:25,240 --> 02:49:27,240
chain-link posts and fences .

4540
02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:28,240
physically I got an interior that

4541
02:49:28,240 --> 02:49:30,240
is brick

4542
02:49:31,240 --> 02:49:33,240
and they concrete

4543
02:49:35,240 --> 02:49:37,240
exterior, for the dugouts I went to

4544
02:49:37,240 --> 02:49:38,240
one of his offense instead of a

4545
02:49:38,240 --> 02:49:40,240
cmu wall which delivered a lot of

4546
02:49:40,240 --> 02:49:43,240
cost savings on that aspect

4547
02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:46,240
of it. I can get

4548
02:49:46,240 --> 02:49:47,240
the markup through

4549
02:49:47,240 --> 02:49:49,240
my board and contractors, we are taking

4550
02:49:49,240 --> 02:49:51,240
that on.

4551
02:49:53,240 --> 02:49:55,240
eliminated in its entirety which we

4552
02:49:55,240 --> 02:49:58,240
did not need per our

4553
02:49:58,240 --> 02:50:00,240
engineering staff.

4554
02:50:00,240 --> 02:50:01,240
for the city of buda . We eliminated

4555
02:50:01,240 --> 02:50:03,240
the

4556
02:50:04,240 --> 02:50:06,240
masonry walls ,

4557
02:50:06,240 --> 02:50:07,240
replaced with metal studs. We eliminated

4558
02:50:07,240 --> 02:50:09,240
the stainless steel

4559
02:50:10,240 --> 02:50:13,240
wall panels , replaced by frp,

4560
02:50:13,240 --> 02:50:16,240
which is a huge savings, there.

4561
02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:17,240
obviously, there working

4562
02:50:17,240 --> 02:50:21,240
for the city so they will not pay

4563
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:22,240
any permanent fees, that's a nice

4564
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:24,240
little savings there

4565
02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:27,240
as well put city of buda purchases

4566
02:50:27,240 --> 02:50:31,240
the field tarps, hoses, dugout benches, helmets,

4567
02:50:31,240 --> 02:50:33,240
racks and bats

4568
02:50:33,240 --> 02:50:34,240
and fun stuff, we can buy that through

4569
02:50:34,240 --> 02:50:36,240
our own

4570
02:50:37,240 --> 02:50:40,240
catalog and that it's cheaper.

4571
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:45,240
rs three, reduced the root zone to

4572
02:50:45,240 --> 02:50:49,240
medium depth, we cut it to 4 inches.

4573
02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:51,240
hyatt cost savings received after the

4574
02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:52,240
bid, so after we had some talks on

4575
02:50:52,240 --> 02:50:54,240
the final

4576
02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:56,240
day, tuesday, I needed to

4577
02:50:56,240 --> 02:50:58,240
get this to micah so he could make

4578
02:50:58,240 --> 02:50:59,240
a decision about what we are doing.

4579
02:50:59,240 --> 02:51:01,240
he passed on more cost savings. I

4580
02:51:01,240 --> 02:51:04,240
will tell you, and I have a

4581
02:51:04,240 --> 02:51:06,240
couple of more,

4582
02:51:07,240 --> 02:51:08,240
pre-engineered

4583
02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:10,240
metal sightings and batting cages

4584
02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:12,240
to match the roof,

4585
02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:13,240
that's a small savings, and delete

4586
02:51:13,240 --> 02:51:15,240
wet

4587
02:51:16,240 --> 02:51:17,240
fire sprinkler

4588
02:51:17,240 --> 02:51:19,240
through the concession stands, we

4589
02:51:19,240 --> 02:51:22,240
just did it for the

4590
02:51:22,240 --> 02:51:23,240
canceled system only. With

4591
02:51:23,240 --> 02:51:25,240
all those savings there, that was

4592
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:28,240
quite a bit of savings, for us. The

4593
02:51:28,240 --> 02:51:31,240
biggest ones, just to give

4594
02:51:31,240 --> 02:51:33,240
you an example,

4595
02:51:40,240 --> 02:51:41,240
is the --I

4596
02:51:41,240 --> 02:51:43,240
don't know where I put it. Cost savings

4597
02:51:43,240 --> 02:51:45,240
received after bid

4598
02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:49,240
, that was $1 million. The electrical

4599
02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:52,240
was 1 million. So, hyatt did a great

4600
02:51:52,240 --> 02:51:54,240
job, they were

4601
02:51:54,240 --> 02:51:58,240
very upfront, I don't feel like they

4602
02:51:58,240 --> 02:51:59,240
were ripping us off

4603
02:51:59,240 --> 02:52:01,240
or taking advantage of us or however

4604
02:52:01,240 --> 02:52:04,240
you want to say it, I

4605
02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:05,240
think they --justin has a lot of

4606
02:52:05,240 --> 02:52:06,240
integrity, he talked to us straight

4607
02:52:06,240 --> 02:52:07,240
up, we were straightforward with each

4608
02:52:07,240 --> 02:52:09,240
other on what

4609
02:52:10,240 --> 02:52:11,240
we needed to do, and it was a

4610
02:52:11,240 --> 02:52:13,240
pleasure doing business with them

4611
02:52:13,240 --> 02:52:16,840
and having conversations. There was probably

4612
02:52:19,240 --> 02:52:20,240
some conversation on his part

4613
02:52:20,240 --> 02:52:22,240
and our part because there is a number

4614
02:52:22,240 --> 02:52:23,240
we need to get to, and we

4615
02:52:23,240 --> 02:52:24,240
were having some difficult conversations,

4616
02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:25,240
but, with darren's help and his team,

4617
02:52:25,240 --> 02:52:26,240
who did a fantastic

4618
02:52:26,240 --> 02:52:28,240
job, we started on thursday, having

4619
02:52:28,240 --> 02:52:31,240
discussions if we were talk on friday,

4620
02:52:31,240 --> 02:52:33,240
and

4621
02:52:33,240 --> 02:52:34,240
we did not stop until tuesday, so

4622
02:52:34,240 --> 02:52:35,240
that a saturday, sunday, all

4623
02:52:35,240 --> 02:52:37,240
his team doing the electrical, doing

4624
02:52:37,240 --> 02:52:39,240
the structural,

4625
02:52:41,240 --> 02:52:43,240
doing whatever we needed on any of

4626
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:45,240
these things, to make sure we weren't giving up

4627
02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:46,240
quality and we were getting what we

4628
02:52:46,240 --> 02:52:49,240
were supposed to get that we wanted.

4629
02:52:49,240 --> 02:52:51,240
and so,

4630
02:52:51,240 --> 02:52:52,240
I think we have done that. I think

4631
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:54,240
we have done

4632
02:52:54,240 --> 02:52:55,240
a heck of a job to keep the integrity

4633
02:52:55,240 --> 02:52:57,240
of what our original vision is

4634
02:52:57,240 --> 02:52:58,240
with some adjustments. And then, here

4635
02:52:58,240 --> 02:53:01,240
is the proposal, the base bid

4636
02:53:01,240 --> 02:53:03,240
and the being

4637
02:53:04,240 --> 02:53:06,240
12 million,

4638
02:53:07,240 --> 02:53:08,240
and

4639
02:53:08,240 --> 02:53:10,240
I missed the alternative earlier today,

4640
02:53:10,240 --> 02:53:12,240
so I apologize for that.

4641
02:53:12,240 --> 02:53:15,240
we did the maintenance building , 600,000,

4642
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:18,240
bleachers at 56,

4643
02:53:21,240 --> 02:53:22,240
the additional parking lot is 751

4644
02:53:22,240 --> 02:53:23,240
and the batting cages are

4645
02:53:23,240 --> 02:53:25,240
879, so that gave us a total proposal

4646
02:53:25,240 --> 02:53:27,240
of 14,982,000

4647
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,240
997.25.

4648
02:53:31,240 --> 02:53:32,240
getting that

4649
02:53:32,240 --> 02:53:34,240
charge taken care of, that's 572,000,

4650
02:53:34,240 --> 02:53:37,240
and the total with lighting

4651
02:53:37,240 --> 02:53:39,240
would be a

4652
02:53:40,240 --> 02:53:42,240
15,558,000.

4653
02:53:43,240 --> 02:53:46,240
here is our funding sources.

4654
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:48,640
we have 2024 co bond,

4655
02:53:49,240 --> 02:53:51,240
which is 5.15, the

4656
02:53:52,240 --> 02:53:54,240
buda

4657
02:53:54,240 --> 02:53:58,240
edc is 1.5, once you send this, opposed

4658
02:53:58,240 --> 02:54:00,240
2026 co bond is

4659
02:54:09,240 --> 02:54:10,240
11,250,000. And that can change if

4660
02:54:10,240 --> 02:54:12,240
you choose to, the annual debt

4661
02:54:12,240 --> 02:54:13,240
estimated is 814,000 per year for

4662
02:54:13,240 --> 02:54:15,240
25 years.

4663
02:54:19,240 --> 02:54:20,240
for a total of 17.9 million. With

4664
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:21,240
all the work

4665
02:54:21,240 --> 02:54:22,240
that we have had to do since the bid

4666
02:54:22,240 --> 02:54:25,240
has ended, it is probably around

4667
02:54:25,240 --> 02:54:28,240
1.6, and we have 16.3 available for construction.

4668
02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:30,240
>> thank you. Questions?

4669
02:54:31,240 --> 02:54:33,240
accolades?

4670
02:54:37,240 --> 02:54:38,240
>> just want to reiterate, this does

4671
02:54:38,240 --> 02:54:40,240
not

4672
02:54:40,240 --> 02:54:42,240
happen without

4673
02:54:43,240 --> 02:54:44,240
darren's staff and his team, because

4674
02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:46,240
we all put in

4675
02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:48,640
long nights to make

4676
02:54:49,240 --> 02:54:51,240
this

4677
02:54:51,240 --> 02:54:52,240
happen. Answering emails and phone calls,

4678
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:53,240
that's all taken care of, I just want

4679
02:54:53,240 --> 02:54:54,240
to

4680
02:54:54,240 --> 02:54:55,240
make sure that it is us as a team

4681
02:54:55,240 --> 02:54:57,240
getting this done. It was

4682
02:54:57,240 --> 02:54:58,240
no individual, definitely a team effort

4683
02:54:58,240 --> 02:55:00,640
to make this happen.

4684
02:55:02,240 --> 02:55:04,640
>> mr. Smith? >> appreciate it.

4685
02:55:08,240 --> 02:55:10,240
it feels good, it will feel even

4686
02:55:10,240 --> 02:55:11,240
better when we see it. Right? See

4687
02:55:11,240 --> 02:55:13,240
them out there

4688
02:55:13,240 --> 02:55:16,840
playing ball. So, scaling back and

4689
02:55:17,240 --> 02:55:20,240
going to --going from this

4690
02:55:20,240 --> 02:55:22,240
concrete blocks

4691
02:55:23,240 --> 02:55:25,640
into a plastic polymer

4692
02:55:26,240 --> 02:55:28,640
finish, you mentioned quality ,

4693
02:55:29,240 --> 02:55:31,240
I am thinking longevity.

4694
02:55:31,240 --> 02:55:32,240
what is the lifespan on the material

4695
02:55:32,240 --> 02:55:34,240
versus

4696
02:55:35,240 --> 02:55:36,240
single block?

4697
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:38,240
>> center block

4698
02:55:40,240 --> 02:55:41,240
is obviously 20 or 30 up to 50 years

4699
02:55:41,240 --> 02:55:43,240
depending

4700
02:55:43,240 --> 02:55:44,240
on how you take care of it. The way

4701
02:55:44,240 --> 02:55:46,640
that we move, probably

4702
02:55:47,240 --> 02:55:49,240
25 years , if we take care

4703
02:55:49,240 --> 02:55:51,240
of it, we don't beat the crap out

4704
02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:53,240
of it, we take care of it and clean

4705
02:55:53,240 --> 02:55:55,240
it, it is

4706
02:55:55,240 --> 02:55:59,240
all about taking care of what you

4707
02:55:59,240 --> 02:56:01,240
got, right?

4708
02:56:03,240 --> 02:56:04,240
we are truly blessed in being able

4709
02:56:04,240 --> 02:56:06,240
to do this. So, we will take care

4710
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:08,240
of it like it is supposed to be taken

4711
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:09,240
care of and like it is supposed

4712
02:56:09,240 --> 02:56:10,240
to stay.

4713
02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:11,240
>> appreciate that. What

4714
02:56:11,240 --> 02:56:12,240
I was looking for is, the

4715
02:56:12,240 --> 02:56:14,240
25 year mark or beyond, if we take

4716
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:15,240
care of it is what

4717
02:56:15,240 --> 02:56:17,240
I was looking for. Because we will

4718
02:56:17,240 --> 02:56:18,240
have to do some things over

4719
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:20,240
time, right? But we can at least get

4720
02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:22,240
paid off or

4721
02:56:23,240 --> 02:56:25,240
improve later .

4722
02:56:29,240 --> 02:56:31,240
I want it to last out there,

4723
02:56:31,240 --> 02:56:32,240
because it is a huge investment we

4724
02:56:32,240 --> 02:56:33,240
are putting in, we

4725
02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:35,240
don't want to put in another 10,000,005

4726
02:56:35,240 --> 02:56:38,240
years from now because it's

4727
02:56:38,240 --> 02:56:39,240
falling apart.

4728
02:56:39,240 --> 02:56:41,240
>>

4729
02:56:41,240 --> 02:56:42,240
it's just us making

4730
02:56:42,240 --> 02:56:44,240
sure we have a schedule and we are

4731
02:56:44,240 --> 02:56:45,240
taking care of it. It is on

4732
02:56:45,240 --> 02:56:47,240
me to make sure that we have maintenance

4733
02:56:47,240 --> 02:56:48,240
schedules taken care of, we are replacing

4734
02:56:48,240 --> 02:56:50,240
things when they're supposed to be

4735
02:56:50,240 --> 02:56:52,240
replaced, retaining them the way they

4736
02:56:52,240 --> 02:56:53,240
are supposed to be maintained. Checklists

4737
02:56:53,240 --> 02:56:54,240
and

4738
02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:56,240
recipes, those kinds of things will

4739
02:56:56,240 --> 02:56:58,240
be reiterated

4740
02:57:02,240 --> 02:57:03,240
, the stuff that

4741
02:57:03,240 --> 02:57:05,240
micah and lindsay have been on the

4742
02:57:05,240 --> 02:57:06,240
about, so we will have to work harder

4743
02:57:06,240 --> 02:57:08,240
at getting them all done, right? But,

4744
02:57:08,240 --> 02:57:09,240
it is treating it like it is

4745
02:57:09,240 --> 02:57:11,240
supposed to be treated. We hope that

4746
02:57:11,240 --> 02:57:13,240
it lasts for

4747
02:57:14,240 --> 02:57:15,240
100 years, but

4748
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:17,240
obviously we will have to take care

4749
02:57:17,240 --> 02:57:18,240
of it at some point.

4750
02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:19,240
>> perfect,

4751
02:57:19,240 --> 02:57:20,240
thank you. Just to continue thinking

4752
02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:22,240
about quality,

4753
02:57:23,240 --> 02:57:25,640
with every aspect, two

4754
02:57:26,240 --> 02:57:29,840
areas quick, the root zone depth

4755
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:32,240
? Obviously they wouldn't do it if

4756
02:57:32,240 --> 02:57:34,240
they were not comfortable. What do

4757
02:57:34,240 --> 02:57:35,240
we do on the soccer field?

4758
02:57:35,240 --> 02:57:36,240
>> the

4759
02:57:36,240 --> 02:57:37,240
same. 6 inches

4760
02:57:37,240 --> 02:57:38,240
on the soccer field.

4761
02:57:38,240 --> 02:57:39,240
>> so we are

4762
02:57:39,240 --> 02:57:41,240
pressing our

4763
02:57:41,240 --> 02:57:42,240
luck?

4764
02:57:42,240 --> 02:57:44,240
>>

4765
02:57:46,240 --> 02:57:47,240
we went thick. We went 8 inches, and

4766
02:57:47,240 --> 02:57:48,240
I wanted 8 inches

4767
02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:49,240
just because I wanted more stability.

4768
02:57:49,240 --> 02:57:50,240
it is not that afforded inches is

4769
02:57:50,240 --> 02:57:51,240
bad, it

4770
02:57:51,240 --> 02:57:53,240
is normal for what they do on normal

4771
02:57:53,240 --> 02:57:54,240
fields, high school fields, but

4772
02:57:54,240 --> 02:57:56,240
I was trying to go for that little

4773
02:57:56,240 --> 02:57:58,240
extra, so

4774
02:57:58,240 --> 02:57:59,240
a little more security and a better

4775
02:57:59,240 --> 02:58:01,240
foundation for us.

4776
02:58:05,240 --> 02:58:09,440
we hire it out as far as

4777
02:58:10,240 --> 02:58:11,240
over seeding and fertilization, so

4778
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:13,240
it will

4779
02:58:13,240 --> 02:58:14,240
be taken care of, we will have a good

4780
02:58:14,240 --> 02:58:16,240
system to keep

4781
02:58:17,240 --> 02:58:19,240
it watered.

4782
02:58:19,240 --> 02:58:20,240
I am not worried about the 4 inches,

4783
02:58:20,240 --> 02:58:22,240
I was hoping for more

4784
02:58:22,240 --> 02:58:23,240
is all.

4785
02:58:23,240 --> 02:58:26,240
>> okay. I imagine the high-traffic areas

4786
02:58:26,240 --> 02:58:28,240
on the soccer field

4787
02:58:28,240 --> 02:58:29,240
are different than high-traffic areas out

4788
02:58:29,240 --> 02:58:30,240
here, and most highest traffic will

4789
02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:32,240
be on

4790
02:58:32,240 --> 02:58:34,240
the dirt ,

4791
02:58:34,240 --> 02:58:35,240
the infield.

4792
02:58:35,240 --> 02:58:37,640
>> I'm trying to get

4793
02:58:40,240 --> 02:58:41,240
on the leads but the mention of the

4794
02:58:41,240 --> 02:58:43,240
board, we're talking about the backstop?

4795
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:44,240
so, those will stay. It will be a

4796
02:58:44,240 --> 02:58:45,240
pony wall backstop, it will just stop

4797
02:58:45,240 --> 02:58:47,240
the dugouts and then chain-link will

4798
02:58:47,240 --> 02:58:49,240
take over

4799
02:58:49,240 --> 02:58:50,240
around? I don't find out as much because

4800
02:58:50,240 --> 02:58:52,240
you start bridging

4801
02:58:52,240 --> 02:58:55,240
those dugouts , it gets really steamy

4802
02:58:55,240 --> 02:58:58,240
in their. You keep it open with chain-link

4803
02:58:58,240 --> 02:58:59,240
and the air flows through and I think

4804
02:58:59,240 --> 02:59:02,240
they are equally as safe.

4805
02:59:02,240 --> 02:59:04,240
>> absolutely.

4806
02:59:07,240 --> 02:59:08,240
cmu as a better foundation makes it

4807
02:59:08,240 --> 02:59:10,240
look a little better but

4808
02:59:10,240 --> 02:59:13,840
it is more aesthetics than functionality.

4809
02:59:16,240 --> 02:59:17,240
chain-link fence, they do it everywhere. There's

4810
02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:18,240
a bunch of colleges that have

4811
02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:20,240
it. I was okay with changing that.

4812
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:21,240
>> very good. Appreciate all the work,

4813
02:59:21,240 --> 02:59:23,240
team

4814
02:59:23,240 --> 02:59:26,240
wide, and I'm excited to see it, now.

4815
02:59:26,240 --> 02:59:28,240
thank you.

4816
02:59:32,240 --> 02:59:33,240
>> any public testimony on this one?

4817
02:59:33,240 --> 02:59:34,240
go ahead.

4818
02:59:34,240 --> 02:59:35,240
>>

4819
02:59:35,240 --> 02:59:38,240
thank you. Very much respecting that

4820
02:59:38,240 --> 02:59:41,240
quick work, to get to --

4821
02:59:41,240 --> 02:59:43,240
did you say

4822
02:59:46,240 --> 02:59:47,240
win-win? I guess I will say it. Trying

4823
02:59:47,240 --> 02:59:49,240
to find that spot.

4824
02:59:49,240 --> 02:59:50,240
can you go back through the lists,

4825
02:59:50,240 --> 02:59:52,240
and

4826
02:59:53,240 --> 02:59:55,240
flip slowly? Of

4827
02:59:55,240 --> 02:59:59,240
changes? I am trying to catch something,

4828
02:59:59,240 --> 03:00:01,240
I think I happen to

4829
03:00:01,240 --> 03:00:02,240
know here, is that the first one or is there

4830
03:00:02,240 --> 03:00:04,240
one before

4831
03:00:05,240 --> 03:00:08,240
it? There we go. And the

4832
03:00:08,240 --> 03:00:11,240
next one? Okay. Thank you.

4833
03:00:13,240 --> 03:00:14,240
it makes a lot of sense, and I appreciate

4834
03:00:14,240 --> 03:00:17,240
you walking through it the

4835
03:00:17,240 --> 03:00:19,240
irrigation pump is

4836
03:00:20,240 --> 03:00:22,240
primarily for show

4837
03:00:23,240 --> 03:00:25,240
and disturbing the

4838
03:00:25,240 --> 03:00:26,240
water, so it is not so still of water

4839
03:00:26,240 --> 03:00:27,240
or didn't have a bigger function?

4840
03:00:27,240 --> 03:00:29,240
in other words, removing that, what

4841
03:00:29,240 --> 03:00:30,240
will it change?

4842
03:00:30,240 --> 03:00:32,240
>>

4843
03:00:32,240 --> 03:00:35,240
so, what we did is

4844
03:00:35,240 --> 03:00:37,240
the existing

4845
03:00:43,240 --> 03:00:44,240
water quality pond, and proposed water quality pond, we

4846
03:00:44,240 --> 03:00:46,240
wanted to make them wet bottom ponds

4847
03:00:46,240 --> 03:00:47,240
for anesthetic feature but at the

4848
03:00:47,240 --> 03:00:49,240
end of it

4849
03:00:49,240 --> 03:00:50,240
, it was $1 million just on the pond.

4850
03:00:50,240 --> 03:00:52,240
the irrigation system and so, reevaluating,

4851
03:00:52,240 --> 03:00:53,240
we changed the method of treatment

4852
03:00:53,240 --> 03:00:54,240
to meet water quality parameters for

4853
03:00:54,240 --> 03:00:55,240
batch

4854
03:00:55,240 --> 03:00:57,240
treatment, so we had fountains in

4855
03:00:57,240 --> 03:00:59,240
their, future fountains,

4856
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:02,240
with the irrigation pumping station

4857
03:01:02,240 --> 03:01:03,240
and that drove the cost. So, still

4858
03:01:03,240 --> 03:01:05,240
gets

4859
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:07,240
water quality, but

4860
03:01:07,240 --> 03:01:08,240
it is much lower cost.

4861
03:01:08,240 --> 03:01:10,240
>> sounds good.

4862
03:01:14,240 --> 03:01:15,240
tell me a bit more about batch treatment.

4863
03:01:15,240 --> 03:01:16,240
I know

4864
03:01:16,240 --> 03:01:18,240
what we do with some other ones, but

4865
03:01:18,240 --> 03:01:20,240
I guess

4866
03:01:21,240 --> 03:01:22,240
--yeah, talk a

4867
03:01:22,240 --> 03:01:23,240
bit about that.'s budget is a must

4868
03:01:23,240 --> 03:01:24,240
the same thing. So, if the original

4869
03:01:24,240 --> 03:01:26,240
approach

4870
03:01:27,240 --> 03:01:30,240
was a wet bottom pond,

4871
03:01:31,240 --> 03:01:33,240
we would have four or five feet with fountains

4872
03:01:33,240 --> 03:01:34,240
in it for more of anesthetic

4873
03:01:34,240 --> 03:01:36,240
feature, what we did instead is take

4874
03:01:36,240 --> 03:01:38,240
out the wet bottom, we raised

4875
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:39,240
the bottom by four or five feet, so we

4876
03:01:39,240 --> 03:01:41,240
did not excavate

4877
03:01:41,240 --> 03:01:42,240
quite as much, and then replant native

4878
03:01:42,240 --> 03:01:45,240
grasses in there so we

4879
03:01:45,240 --> 03:01:47,240
have to mow

4880
03:01:48,240 --> 03:01:49,240
once per year, low maintenance.

4881
03:01:49,240 --> 03:01:50,240
on batch treatment, what happens is

4882
03:01:50,240 --> 03:01:51,240
that when the storm water comes through,

4883
03:01:51,240 --> 03:01:53,240
it holds,

4884
03:01:54,240 --> 03:01:56,640
in our case, about

4885
03:01:58,240 --> 03:01:59,240
four feet to six feet of water. The

4886
03:01:59,240 --> 03:02:00,240
irrigation system would have to commit

4887
03:02:00,240 --> 03:02:02,240
water and

4888
03:02:02,240 --> 03:02:05,240
spangled out on the grass. The batch treatment,

4889
03:02:05,240 --> 03:02:06,240
a valve opens from the bottom of the

4890
03:02:06,240 --> 03:02:07,240
pond after

4891
03:02:07,240 --> 03:02:09,240
a set period of time and lets the

4892
03:02:09,240 --> 03:02:10,240
water flow out into the creek.

4893
03:02:10,240 --> 03:02:12,240
so, that is where we don't have to

4894
03:02:12,240 --> 03:02:14,640
pump it. The same

4895
03:02:15,240 --> 03:02:18,240
goal and time period with

4896
03:02:19,240 --> 03:02:20,240
water running off the property before

4897
03:02:20,240 --> 03:02:21,240
it goes to the creek.

4898
03:02:21,240 --> 03:02:22,240
>> awesome,

4899
03:02:22,240 --> 03:02:24,240
thank you.

4900
03:02:24,240 --> 03:02:25,240
then, the electrical, tell me a

4901
03:02:25,240 --> 03:02:30,400
bit more about how much of a downsized.

4902
03:02:31,240 --> 03:02:33,240
is that the one transformer for the

4903
03:02:33,240 --> 03:02:34,240
park?

4904
03:02:34,240 --> 03:02:35,240
>>

4905
03:02:35,240 --> 03:02:36,240
is a great question, I'm glad you

4906
03:02:36,240 --> 03:02:37,240
asked.

4907
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:39,240
they had about 2.5 million on electrical

4908
03:02:39,240 --> 03:02:41,240
, in

4909
03:02:42,240 --> 03:02:44,640
totality, and that excluded

4910
03:02:45,240 --> 03:02:46,240
the 1 million for the

4911
03:02:46,240 --> 03:02:48,240
irrigation pump station. What we ended

4912
03:02:48,240 --> 03:02:51,240
up doing is, when we took

4913
03:02:51,240 --> 03:02:52,240
out the irrigation pumping

4914
03:02:52,240 --> 03:02:54,240
station, that took out how we were routing

4915
03:02:54,240 --> 03:02:57,240
the conduit around the site and running

4916
03:02:57,240 --> 03:02:58,240
the wires , and that changed how we

4917
03:02:58,240 --> 03:02:59,240
were

4918
03:02:59,240 --> 03:03:00,240
setting up our transformers, because

4919
03:03:00,240 --> 03:03:03,240
we had 14,000 volt power coming into

4920
03:03:03,240 --> 03:03:04,240
the site ,

4921
03:03:04,240 --> 03:03:06,240
and we were stepping it up and stepping

4922
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:08,240
down on voltage. So, that reduced

4923
03:03:08,240 --> 03:03:09,240
transformers, which, they are generally

4924
03:03:09,240 --> 03:03:11,240
100 grand per pop,

4925
03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:14,240
so that reduced how we are using power

4926
03:03:14,240 --> 03:03:15,240
and we were able to simplify things.

4927
03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:18,240
the phasing of the project

4928
03:03:18,240 --> 03:03:22,240
that we broke it up into one, two, three,

4929
03:03:22,240 --> 03:03:24,240
if you all saw our plans, there were

4930
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:27,240
hundreds, if not thousands of exes

4931
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:29,640
we were crossing out.

4932
03:03:32,240 --> 03:03:33,240
in the interim period we went back

4933
03:03:33,240 --> 03:03:35,240
and cleaned up all the

4934
03:03:35,240 --> 03:03:36,240
plans, we took out all the letter exes,

4935
03:03:36,240 --> 03:03:37,240
we took all

4936
03:03:37,240 --> 03:03:39,240
the text under that out, and we basically

4937
03:03:39,240 --> 03:03:41,240
clarified, tremendously,

4938
03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:44,240
because the

4939
03:03:45,240 --> 03:03:46,240
letter exes

4940
03:03:46,240 --> 03:03:48,240
really confused the contractors. Once

4941
03:03:48,240 --> 03:03:50,240
we clarified that,

4942
03:03:51,240 --> 03:03:52,240
we

4943
03:03:52,240 --> 03:03:54,240
could see the script much more clearly, and

4944
03:03:54,240 --> 03:03:57,240
that allowed them to say, this is what

4945
03:03:57,240 --> 03:03:58,240
you want, and then as tony mentioned,

4946
03:03:58,240 --> 03:03:59,240
we started

4947
03:03:59,240 --> 03:04:00,240
redesigning the electrical system

4948
03:04:00,240 --> 03:04:03,240
at about noon on friday, and we finished

4949
03:04:03,240 --> 03:04:05,640
around 2:00 on sunday, and

4950
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:07,240
send

4951
03:04:07,240 --> 03:04:09,240
that to the contractor, you got it,

4952
03:04:09,240 --> 03:04:10,240
they started praising it, and

4953
03:04:10,240 --> 03:04:12,240
by monday, around 10:00 a.m., we had

4954
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:14,240
a price

4955
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:21,240
.

4956
03:04:21,240 --> 03:04:22,240
>> and that was a reduction of how

4957
03:04:22,240 --> 03:04:23,240
much?

4958
03:04:23,240 --> 03:04:24,240
>> about 1.3

4959
03:04:24,240 --> 03:04:25,240
million.

4960
03:04:25,240 --> 03:04:26,240
>> those were the two big

4961
03:04:26,240 --> 03:04:27,240
ones. Just looking at the list quickly,

4962
03:04:27,240 --> 03:04:28,240
it seems

4963
03:04:28,240 --> 03:04:29,240
like those are the two.

4964
03:04:29,240 --> 03:04:30,240
>> yeah. One

4965
03:04:30,240 --> 03:04:31,240
thing the contractor did pass on

4966
03:04:31,240 --> 03:04:32,240
is, when they were getting their fresh

4967
03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:33,240
quotes from contractors, tony and

4968
03:04:33,240 --> 03:04:35,240
I both

4969
03:04:35,240 --> 03:04:36,240
said hey, we got to have this by 11:00

4970
03:04:36,240 --> 03:04:38,240
a.m. 11:00 I am,

4971
03:04:38,240 --> 03:04:39,240
you hear me? And so, he was getting

4972
03:04:39,240 --> 03:04:40,240
quotes in and he sent his first

4973
03:04:40,240 --> 03:04:42,240
quote from the illogical setups, on

4974
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:44,240
the west coast

4975
03:04:45,240 --> 03:04:46,240
--pardon

4976
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:48,240
me, they were on the east coast and

4977
03:04:48,240 --> 03:04:49,240
west coast hadn't woken up yet because

4978
03:04:49,240 --> 03:04:50,240
they

4979
03:04:50,240 --> 03:04:51,240
were two hours behind, so the first

4980
03:04:51,240 --> 03:04:53,240
quote was like 700,000,

4981
03:04:54,240 --> 03:04:57,240
but after two hours, he was saying,

4982
03:04:57,240 --> 03:04:59,240
they had been talking to each

4983
03:04:59,240 --> 03:05:00,240
other and saying they were bidding

4984
03:05:00,240 --> 03:05:02,240
and that came

4985
03:05:03,240 --> 03:05:05,640
down to 400. Nothing changed,

4986
03:05:08,240 --> 03:05:09,240
they were just using tariffs and just

4987
03:05:09,240 --> 03:05:10,240
doing business, trying

4988
03:05:10,240 --> 03:05:12,240
to push the numbers as high as they

4989
03:05:12,240 --> 03:05:13,240
can, but as soon as they find out

4990
03:05:13,240 --> 03:05:15,240
that they have competition, that drives

4991
03:05:15,240 --> 03:05:16,240
the price down. So, there was a lot

4992
03:05:16,240 --> 03:05:17,240
of

4993
03:05:17,240 --> 03:05:18,240
that going on. It is common for the

4994
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:20,240
speed of the project,

4995
03:05:20,240 --> 03:05:21,240
and the fact we were able to work

4996
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:23,240
in an open

4997
03:05:24,240 --> 03:05:27,240
dialogue with contractor, and we were

4998
03:05:27,240 --> 03:05:29,240
able to

4999
03:05:31,240 --> 03:05:33,240
project based on our personality we would

5000
03:05:33,240 --> 03:05:34,240
be firm, but fair, we want quality

5001
03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:35,240
and

5002
03:05:35,240 --> 03:05:36,240
we will not compromise that. But,

5003
03:05:36,240 --> 03:05:37,240
we need an open dialogue to have a

5004
03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:38,240
successful

5005
03:05:38,240 --> 03:05:39,240
project. So, there is a lot of nonverbal's

5006
03:05:39,240 --> 03:05:41,240
with good teamwork

5007
03:05:41,240 --> 03:05:42,240
and I believe we have a really good

5008
03:05:42,240 --> 03:05:44,240
team

5009
03:05:45,240 --> 03:05:47,240
and contractor.

5010
03:05:48,240 --> 03:05:50,240
>> vilsack

5011
03:05:51,240 --> 03:05:53,240
thank you.

5012
03:05:53,240 --> 03:05:54,240
>> you all did an amazing amount of

5013
03:05:54,240 --> 03:05:56,640
work. So, hats off,

5014
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:01,240
I know where

5015
03:06:01,240 --> 03:06:03,240
that bid started and what you were

5016
03:06:03,240 --> 03:06:04,240
able to get to, working for the weekend,

5017
03:06:04,240 --> 03:06:06,240
that's awesome. I am struggling with

5018
03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:09,240
the cost, just in general.

5019
03:06:09,240 --> 03:06:11,240
so, we're looking

5020
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:14,640
at 800,000 in debt servicing.

5021
03:06:15,240 --> 03:06:18,240
do you have some general projections on

5022
03:06:18,240 --> 03:06:19,240
revenue from field

5023
03:06:19,240 --> 03:06:21,240
rentals, from tournaments, from any

5024
03:06:21,240 --> 03:06:23,240
of that,

5025
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:26,240
for phase

5026
03:06:27,240 --> 03:06:28,240
one?

5027
03:06:28,240 --> 03:06:30,240
>> phase one, I have

5028
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:32,240
done some preliminary,

5029
03:06:33,240 --> 03:06:35,640
with a total of 24

5030
03:06:38,240 --> 03:06:39,240
tenants per year. What I did from

5031
03:06:39,240 --> 03:06:42,240
that is, you know, we

5032
03:06:42,240 --> 03:06:44,240
have concessions

5033
03:06:44,240 --> 03:06:45,240
, somebody is running I have us running

5034
03:06:45,240 --> 03:06:47,240
concessions 100%. And then

5035
03:06:48,240 --> 03:06:50,240
we get

5036
03:06:51,240 --> 03:06:52,240
late fees at 20%, we get a parking,

5037
03:06:52,240 --> 03:06:53,240
20%.

5038
03:06:53,240 --> 03:06:54,240
concession stands , if somebody else

5039
03:06:54,240 --> 03:06:56,240
runs it, at

5040
03:06:56,240 --> 03:06:59,840
20%. I have run multiple numbers, and

5041
03:07:00,240 --> 03:07:01,240
I appreciate the question, because

5042
03:07:01,240 --> 03:07:02,240
I finally get to

5043
03:07:02,240 --> 03:07:03,240
actually talk about these numbers. So,

5044
03:07:03,240 --> 03:07:05,240
just on

5045
03:07:08,240 --> 03:07:09,240
the eight fields for softball on a

5046
03:07:09,240 --> 03:07:11,640
revenue basis, we have

5047
03:07:12,240 --> 03:07:14,240
eight fields, per our fee

5048
03:07:14,240 --> 03:07:15,240
schedules, $500 per day to rent, there's

5049
03:07:15,240 --> 03:07:18,240
eight of them, times two

5050
03:07:18,240 --> 03:07:20,240
days, that's

5051
03:07:21,240 --> 03:07:23,240
a

5052
03:07:23,240 --> 03:07:24,240
grand. We line the seals for two days

5053
03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:26,240
is $480.

5054
03:07:30,240 --> 03:07:31,240
this is where it gets kind of confusing

5055
03:07:31,240 --> 03:07:32,240
in some

5056
03:07:32,240 --> 03:07:33,240
aspects, because you have to understand

5057
03:07:33,240 --> 03:07:35,240
where the numbers come from. So

5058
03:07:35,240 --> 03:07:36,240
on the eight fields for softball you

5059
03:07:36,240 --> 03:07:38,640
can run 56 teams in

5060
03:07:39,240 --> 03:07:40,240
the weekend. So, saturday sunday tournament

5061
03:07:40,240 --> 03:07:42,240
you could run 56

5062
03:07:42,240 --> 03:07:43,240
teams. Well, there's different ways

5063
03:07:43,240 --> 03:07:44,240
of doing it,

5064
03:07:44,240 --> 03:07:45,240
so, the numbers I am using for this

5065
03:07:45,240 --> 03:07:47,240
comes straight from

5066
03:07:50,240 --> 03:07:52,240
the sports field management association.

5067
03:07:52,240 --> 03:07:54,640
I did not want

5068
03:07:55,240 --> 03:07:57,240
to use

5069
03:07:58,240 --> 03:07:59,240
--obviously I'm not

5070
03:07:59,240 --> 03:08:00,240
just pulling numbers out of my hat,

5071
03:08:00,240 --> 03:08:02,240
I use the book that everybody uses

5072
03:08:02,240 --> 03:08:03,240
two project where we are going. It's

5073
03:08:03,240 --> 03:08:04,240
the sports field management association.

5074
03:08:04,240 --> 03:08:06,240
they do it

5075
03:08:06,240 --> 03:08:07,240
as this, the city shares the gate,

5076
03:08:07,240 --> 03:08:09,240
so 56 teams

5077
03:08:10,240 --> 03:08:12,240
on average with

5078
03:08:13,240 --> 03:08:15,240
15 spectators per team,

5079
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:17,240
so they times that out,

5080
03:08:17,240 --> 03:08:19,240
15 spectators and then the gate fee is

5081
03:08:19,240 --> 03:08:21,240
$10, and then you have two days

5082
03:08:21,240 --> 03:08:26,400
and we get 20% of that, so that is

5083
03:08:28,240 --> 03:08:30,240
3360 docs.

5084
03:08:32,240 --> 03:08:34,240
3360, and then the same thing with

5085
03:08:34,240 --> 03:08:36,240
the parking lot.

5086
03:08:37,240 --> 03:08:38,240
they say on average it is

5087
03:08:38,240 --> 03:08:40,240
$10 per team for 56?10, times five

5088
03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:42,240
dollars for cars

5089
03:08:43,240 --> 03:08:45,240
to park, two days, we get 20%

5090
03:08:45,240 --> 03:08:46,240
of that, that is 1120. And then we

5091
03:08:46,240 --> 03:08:48,240
share

5092
03:08:48,240 --> 03:08:49,240
the concession stand. Now, you take

5093
03:08:49,240 --> 03:08:51,240
the same

5094
03:08:52,240 --> 03:08:55,240
amount of spectators, 56?15, and then

5095
03:08:55,240 --> 03:08:57,240
multiply that by five,

5096
03:08:57,240 --> 03:09:00,240
because the average spent per person is

5097
03:09:00,240 --> 03:09:04,240
five dollars, that is what they are using,

5098
03:09:04,240 --> 03:09:07,240
over two days, times 20%, we

5099
03:09:07,240 --> 03:09:09,240
will get $1680,

5100
03:09:10,240 --> 03:09:11,240
if

5101
03:09:11,240 --> 03:09:12,240
we split the concession stand. The

5102
03:09:12,240 --> 03:09:13,240
total intake for attornment on a two

5103
03:09:13,240 --> 03:09:15,240
day tournament

5104
03:09:16,240 --> 03:09:18,240
is $16,240.

5105
03:09:20,240 --> 03:09:22,240
that is somebody else running concession

5106
03:09:22,240 --> 03:09:23,240
stands, doing the gate

5107
03:09:23,240 --> 03:09:24,240
fees and all of that. And running

5108
03:09:24,240 --> 03:09:25,240
the retirement. For the soccer fields,

5109
03:09:25,240 --> 03:09:27,240
four rentals,

5110
03:09:28,240 --> 03:09:30,240
500 bucks,

5111
03:09:30,240 --> 03:09:31,240
per field, times two, that's 4000.

5112
03:09:31,240 --> 03:09:33,240
lights

5113
03:09:34,240 --> 03:09:36,240
are 400.

5114
03:09:37,240 --> 03:09:38,240
lining the field is 240. The

5115
03:09:38,240 --> 03:09:40,240
same aspect, not changing from 56 teams,

5116
03:09:40,240 --> 03:09:42,240
to when you have

5117
03:09:42,240 --> 03:09:43,240
four fields, you can do 28 teams because

5118
03:09:43,240 --> 03:09:45,240
of the hours

5119
03:09:46,240 --> 03:09:47,240
of the day. 28

5120
03:09:47,240 --> 03:09:48,240
teams you can handle with four fields, times

5121
03:09:48,240 --> 03:09:49,240
the same 15 spectators, times 10,

5122
03:09:49,240 --> 03:09:51,240
that

5123
03:09:52,240 --> 03:09:54,240
is 1620

5124
03:09:54,240 --> 03:09:55,240
, and then the same for the parking,

5125
03:09:55,240 --> 03:09:57,240
it

5126
03:09:58,240 --> 03:10:00,240
is $560.

5127
03:10:02,240 --> 03:10:04,240
if we did the concession stand it's

5128
03:10:04,240 --> 03:10:07,240
only 840. So, on the soccer side,

5129
03:10:07,240 --> 03:10:10,240
we make $7660. So, if you take

5130
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:13,240
those and you do the

5131
03:10:13,240 --> 03:10:15,240
16,240?12,

5132
03:10:18,240 --> 03:10:20,240
and sacraments, that's 194,008 80

5133
03:10:22,240 --> 03:10:25,240
. And if you did the soccer,

5134
03:10:25,240 --> 03:10:27,240
it is 91,920. A

5135
03:10:28,240 --> 03:10:30,240
total of

5136
03:10:31,240 --> 03:10:33,240
286,800,

5137
03:10:33,240 --> 03:10:36,240
running per year splitting concession

5138
03:10:37,240 --> 03:10:40,240
stands with everyone else. That is not

5139
03:10:40,240 --> 03:10:41,240
us running 100%.

5140
03:10:41,240 --> 03:10:42,240
>>

5141
03:10:42,240 --> 03:10:43,240
and that is just for tournaments?

5142
03:10:43,240 --> 03:10:45,240
>>

5143
03:10:46,240 --> 03:10:49,240
that is 12 weekends in a

5144
03:10:49,240 --> 03:10:50,240
52-week year.

5145
03:10:50,240 --> 03:10:52,240
just 12 weekends. I was being conservative

5146
03:10:52,240 --> 03:10:55,240
but I hope to run

5147
03:10:55,240 --> 03:10:56,240
more.

5148
03:10:56,240 --> 03:10:57,240
>>

5149
03:10:57,240 --> 03:10:58,240
normal field rental, what is that

5150
03:10:58,240 --> 03:10:59,240
for the softball

5151
03:10:59,240 --> 03:11:00,240
field specifically?

5152
03:11:00,240 --> 03:11:02,240
>> well, anything over

5153
03:11:04,240 --> 03:11:05,240
six hours is a full day, so that's

5154
03:11:05,240 --> 03:11:06,240
$500

5155
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:07,240
but if not it's $75 per hour. On average

5156
03:11:07,240 --> 03:11:09,240
we get

5157
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:12,240
right now,

5158
03:11:16,240 --> 03:11:18,240
it's almost all day

5159
03:11:18,240 --> 03:11:19,240
on a saturday or sunday. It's almost the

5160
03:11:19,240 --> 03:11:21,240
exact same amount of money that

5161
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:22,240
we are doing right now. The only difference

5162
03:11:22,240 --> 03:11:24,240
is that we give a

5163
03:11:24,240 --> 03:11:25,240
cost break for hyd essay to use it,

5164
03:11:25,240 --> 03:11:27,640
and then capital city

5165
03:11:28,240 --> 03:11:30,240
uses it

5166
03:11:31,240 --> 03:11:32,240
.

5167
03:11:32,240 --> 03:11:33,240
>>

5168
03:11:33,240 --> 03:11:34,240
okay. I know we don't have it tonight,

5169
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:35,240
but not just for phase one, but

5170
03:11:35,240 --> 03:11:37,240
phase two and three, because of the

5171
03:11:37,240 --> 03:11:39,240
master plan,

5172
03:11:39,240 --> 03:11:42,240
is fantastic, but understanding the

5173
03:11:43,240 --> 03:11:46,240
revenue and expenses all the way

5174
03:11:46,240 --> 03:11:48,240
down to the batting cages that

5175
03:11:48,240 --> 03:11:49,240
we can rent, we have knuckleball courses

5176
03:11:49,240 --> 03:11:51,240
we

5177
03:11:52,240 --> 03:11:54,240
can rent.

5178
03:11:54,240 --> 03:11:55,240
with what the revenue and expenses

5179
03:11:55,240 --> 03:11:57,240
are,

5180
03:11:58,240 --> 03:12:00,240
to put

5181
03:12:01,240 --> 03:12:03,640
together a big picture,

5182
03:12:07,240 --> 03:12:09,240
but I think I heard

5183
03:12:09,240 --> 03:12:13,240
all in, we are looking at 286 dollars

5184
03:12:13,240 --> 03:12:15,240
.

5185
03:12:15,240 --> 03:12:16,240
>> if we split it. If we take 100%

5186
03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:17,240
changes the numbers. So, if we don't

5187
03:12:17,240 --> 03:12:19,240
split any concession stand, we don't

5188
03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:20,240
split the gate with parking, it changes

5189
03:12:20,240 --> 03:12:22,240
it.

5190
03:12:22,240 --> 03:12:24,240
>> okay.

5191
03:12:28,240 --> 03:12:29,240
we are still not

5192
03:12:29,240 --> 03:12:31,240
half of what the overall debt service

5193
03:12:31,240 --> 03:12:32,240
is projected to be?

5194
03:12:32,240 --> 03:12:33,240
>> correct. >>

5195
03:12:33,240 --> 03:12:34,240
okay.

5196
03:12:34,240 --> 03:12:37,240
I am still struggling there. I

5197
03:12:37,240 --> 03:12:40,240
am hoping , I would like

5198
03:12:40,240 --> 03:12:43,240
to get the big picture,

5199
03:12:43,240 --> 03:12:45,240
especially as we look towards

5200
03:12:45,240 --> 03:12:46,240
future budgets and future phases,

5201
03:12:46,240 --> 03:12:47,240
that kind of stuff. But

5202
03:12:47,240 --> 03:12:49,240
I do appreciate all the hard work that

5203
03:12:49,240 --> 03:12:50,240
you and the team have done to get

5204
03:12:50,240 --> 03:12:52,240
us

5205
03:12:52,240 --> 03:12:54,240
to a better place, but,

5206
03:12:54,240 --> 03:12:55,240
I think that for me, it is still quite

5207
03:12:55,240 --> 03:12:57,240
a bit

5208
03:12:58,240 --> 03:13:00,240
more than

5209
03:13:00,240 --> 03:13:01,240
what we were originally going into.

5210
03:13:01,240 --> 03:13:02,240
thank you.

5211
03:13:02,240 --> 03:13:04,240
>> you bet.

5212
03:13:04,240 --> 03:13:06,240
>>

5213
03:13:07,240 --> 03:13:11,440
, just ask a quick question. That is

5214
03:13:13,240 --> 03:13:15,240
16,000 on a

5215
03:13:15,240 --> 03:13:16,240
two day, on the baseball side, with

5216
03:13:16,240 --> 03:13:17,240
eight fields?

5217
03:13:17,240 --> 03:13:18,240
>> yes,

5218
03:13:18,240 --> 03:13:19,240
sir.

5219
03:13:19,240 --> 03:13:20,240
>> thanks. And then a question

5220
03:13:20,240 --> 03:13:22,240
to mike,

5221
03:13:22,240 --> 03:13:24,240
I think, the

5222
03:13:25,240 --> 03:13:27,640
item tonight , is it

5223
03:13:28,240 --> 03:13:30,240
impacted

5224
03:13:36,240 --> 03:13:37,240
--the funding sources in the presentation

5225
03:13:37,240 --> 03:13:38,240
is the plan, but the item tonight

5226
03:13:38,240 --> 03:13:39,240
is

5227
03:13:39,240 --> 03:13:40,240
related to contract. So if we change

5228
03:13:40,240 --> 03:13:42,640
funding sources or the

5229
03:13:43,240 --> 03:13:45,240
amount --

5230
03:13:46,240 --> 03:13:47,240
if we change funding sources that

5231
03:13:47,240 --> 03:13:48,240
would not be

5232
03:13:48,240 --> 03:13:49,240
impacted by our decision tonight,

5233
03:13:49,240 --> 03:13:50,240
right?

5234
03:13:50,240 --> 03:13:52,240
>> that is correct.

5235
03:13:52,240 --> 03:13:55,240
tony, can you go to that

5236
03:13:55,240 --> 03:13:56,240
slide?

5237
03:13:56,240 --> 03:13:58,240
>> yes, sir. >> this is

5238
03:13:58,240 --> 03:14:01,240
how we have put together the funding

5239
03:14:01,240 --> 03:14:03,240
based on

5240
03:14:04,240 --> 03:14:05,240
what we already had available for

5241
03:14:05,240 --> 03:14:07,240
the project, and

5242
03:14:07,240 --> 03:14:10,240
knowing what that gap was.

5243
03:14:10,240 --> 03:14:13,240
counsel in july past a

5244
03:14:13,240 --> 03:14:15,240
reimbursement resolution,

5245
03:14:18,240 --> 03:14:19,240
so you have taken a step already to

5246
03:14:19,240 --> 03:14:21,240
say that any expenses we incur are

5247
03:14:21,240 --> 03:14:22,240
going to be reimbursed from this proposed

5248
03:14:22,240 --> 03:14:25,240
seo, but you have not taken any

5249
03:14:25,240 --> 03:14:28,840
actions to issue a proposed seo.

5250
03:14:31,240 --> 03:14:32,240
it has been

5251
03:14:32,240 --> 03:14:34,240
talked about with the budget process,

5252
03:14:34,240 --> 03:14:35,240
you might remember it was originally

5253
03:14:35,240 --> 03:14:37,240
2025 seo and

5254
03:14:37,240 --> 03:14:38,240
then a 2026 seo . Based on the timing

5255
03:14:38,240 --> 03:14:39,240
of

5256
03:14:39,240 --> 03:14:40,240
how this will work out we are just

5257
03:14:40,240 --> 03:14:42,240
proposing to do one 2026 seo

5258
03:14:42,240 --> 03:14:43,240
in the spring, and the number we have

5259
03:14:43,240 --> 03:14:44,240
been telling you since the april presentation

5260
03:14:44,240 --> 03:14:46,240
on

5261
03:14:46,240 --> 03:14:49,240
the sports complex was about

5262
03:14:51,240 --> 03:14:52,240
8.25 million. That is the number we

5263
03:14:52,240 --> 03:14:54,240
have been carrying. Does that answer

5264
03:14:54,240 --> 03:14:55,240
your question?

5265
03:14:55,240 --> 03:14:56,240
>> I just want to make

5266
03:14:56,240 --> 03:14:58,240
sure that we understand,

5267
03:14:58,240 --> 03:15:01,240
this number that I gave you, the 286 is

5268
03:15:01,240 --> 03:15:02,240
just running tenants. This does not

5269
03:15:02,240 --> 03:15:04,240
include

5270
03:15:05,240 --> 03:15:06,240
weekly rentals ,

5271
03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:08,240
for field rentals monday through friday.

5272
03:15:08,240 --> 03:15:10,240
which I will

5273
03:15:11,240 --> 03:15:13,240
have next.

5274
03:15:14,240 --> 03:15:15,240
>>

5275
03:15:15,240 --> 03:15:17,240
good point, and I am glad we had that

5276
03:15:17,240 --> 03:15:18,240
conversation to break it down

5277
03:15:18,240 --> 03:15:20,240
that way, but it also doesn't include

5278
03:15:20,240 --> 03:15:22,240
hotel stays, restaurants,

5279
03:15:23,240 --> 03:15:26,240
all the other things , the

5280
03:15:26,240 --> 03:15:28,240
intangibles that ,

5281
03:15:28,240 --> 03:15:31,240
there are ways to try to figure it

5282
03:15:31,240 --> 03:15:36,400
out, but it is hard, even with the

5283
03:15:36,240 --> 03:15:38,240
netting and self and tabulation to find

5284
03:15:38,240 --> 03:15:39,240
out where people go and ask

5285
03:15:39,240 --> 03:15:40,240
for hotels, who is staying where,

5286
03:15:40,240 --> 03:15:41,240
it brings people to buda, and it is

5287
03:15:41,240 --> 03:15:43,240
going

5288
03:15:44,240 --> 03:15:47,240
to bring people to buda ,

5289
03:15:47,240 --> 03:15:48,240
which has carry-on

5290
03:15:48,240 --> 03:15:50,240
effects of retail sales tax across

5291
03:15:50,240 --> 03:15:51,240
the board

5292
03:15:51,240 --> 03:15:53,240
. Do we have any public testimony

5293
03:15:53,240 --> 03:15:55,240
on this item?

5294
03:16:03,240 --> 03:16:05,240
thank you. Working over the weekend

5295
03:16:05,240 --> 03:16:06,240
doing your thing, I know you're

5296
03:16:06,240 --> 03:16:07,240
passionate about this, and this is

5297
03:16:07,240 --> 03:16:08,240
your project, but we appreciate the

5298
03:16:08,240 --> 03:16:09,240
energy

5299
03:16:09,240 --> 03:16:11,240
and the work that went into getting

5300
03:16:11,240 --> 03:16:13,240
us here.

5301
03:16:14,240 --> 03:16:16,240
because, we

5302
03:16:16,240 --> 03:16:17,240
were a little defeated not too long ago

5303
03:16:17,240 --> 03:16:19,240
, and now we

5304
03:16:19,240 --> 03:16:20,240
have options in front of us. So I

5305
03:16:20,240 --> 03:16:22,240
appreciate

5306
03:16:22,240 --> 03:16:23,240
that energy and that effort. Does

5307
03:16:23,240 --> 03:16:25,240
anyone

5308
03:16:25,240 --> 03:16:26,240
want to make this motion?

5309
03:16:26,240 --> 03:16:27,240
>> mayor,

5310
03:16:27,240 --> 03:16:29,240
if

5311
03:16:29,240 --> 03:16:32,240
I could, can you go to the slide that

5312
03:16:32,240 --> 03:16:34,240
shows the costs.

5313
03:16:35,240 --> 03:16:37,240
just as a reminder, there is

5314
03:16:37,240 --> 03:16:38,240
a basement with alternatives, so you

5315
03:16:38,240 --> 03:16:40,240
can award

5316
03:16:40,240 --> 03:16:41,240
base bid with certain alternatives

5317
03:16:41,240 --> 03:16:43,240
for all

5318
03:16:44,240 --> 03:16:46,240
of them.

5319
03:16:47,240 --> 03:16:48,240
we have a contingency built into

5320
03:16:48,240 --> 03:16:50,240
this, so that is something counsel

5321
03:16:50,240 --> 03:16:53,240
wants to authorize as well, a contingency of

5322
03:16:53,240 --> 03:16:54,240
3% or 5% or if you want

5323
03:16:54,240 --> 03:16:56,240
to come back to city council, that

5324
03:16:56,240 --> 03:16:59,240
is at your discretion, is 20 mentioned that

5325
03:16:59,240 --> 03:17:02,240
this 14.98 million does not have a

5326
03:17:02,240 --> 03:17:04,640
contingency built into it.

5327
03:17:05,240 --> 03:17:07,240
>> there are

5328
03:17:08,240 --> 03:17:11,240
two parts to the contingency,

5329
03:17:11,240 --> 03:17:13,240
you are saying the funding is

5330
03:17:13,240 --> 03:17:14,240
not there but you still have the authorization

5331
03:17:14,240 --> 03:17:16,240
as manager to approve a number above

5332
03:17:16,240 --> 03:17:17,240
the contract, but you are saying there

5333
03:17:17,240 --> 03:17:19,240
is no

5334
03:17:19,240 --> 03:17:20,240
funding available?

5335
03:17:20,240 --> 03:17:21,240
>> there is proposed

5336
03:17:21,240 --> 03:17:23,240
funding, based

5337
03:17:23,240 --> 03:17:25,240
on the

5338
03:17:25,240 --> 03:17:26,240
proposed issuance of 11.25 million,

5339
03:17:26,240 --> 03:17:28,240
we

5340
03:17:28,240 --> 03:17:31,840
have treated projects where counsel has

5341
03:17:32,240 --> 03:17:33,240
issued a not to exceed amount, so

5342
03:17:33,240 --> 03:17:34,240
unless

5343
03:17:34,240 --> 03:17:37,840
counsel authorizes the city manager to

5344
03:17:38,240 --> 03:17:40,640
approve some change orders,

5345
03:17:43,240 --> 03:17:44,240
every change order would come back

5346
03:17:44,240 --> 03:17:45,240
to council put a

5347
03:17:45,240 --> 03:17:47,240
lot of our construction contract have

5348
03:17:47,240 --> 03:17:50,240
a contingency of, depending on

5349
03:17:50,240 --> 03:17:53,240
the amount, 3% or 5%, I can review

5350
03:17:53,240 --> 03:17:56,240
those review those with staff

5351
03:17:58,240 --> 03:17:59,240
, but if you just approve the base

5352
03:17:59,240 --> 03:18:01,240
bid without any contingency, any change

5353
03:18:01,240 --> 03:18:02,240
order would come back to counsel.

5354
03:18:02,240 --> 03:18:04,240
>> good clarification.

5355
03:18:08,240 --> 03:18:09,240
mr. Smith, were you ready

5356
03:18:09,240 --> 03:18:10,240
for something?

5357
03:18:10,240 --> 03:18:11,240
>> I was preparing

5358
03:18:11,240 --> 03:18:12,240
a motion until that last comment.

5359
03:18:12,240 --> 03:18:14,240
I understand the

5360
03:18:14,240 --> 03:18:17,240
flux ability that allows, but given

5361
03:18:17,240 --> 03:18:20,240
how far we have come and where we

5362
03:18:20,240 --> 03:18:23,240
are today, I wouldn't mind authorizing

5363
03:18:23,240 --> 03:18:26,240
what we have in front of us

5364
03:18:26,240 --> 03:18:29,240
and fit with no change orders.

5365
03:18:29,240 --> 03:18:32,240
maybe what we have to do is a

5366
03:18:32,240 --> 03:18:35,840
number of them at a time.

5367
03:18:41,240 --> 03:18:43,240
I think this is being engineered as

5368
03:18:43,240 --> 03:18:44,240
far as it possibly can and be planned

5369
03:18:44,240 --> 03:18:45,240
out as far as it possibly can.

5370
03:18:45,240 --> 03:18:47,240
I know there will always be changes,

5371
03:18:47,240 --> 03:18:48,240
there will be unknowns, there needs

5372
03:18:48,240 --> 03:18:49,240
to

5373
03:18:49,240 --> 03:18:50,240
be a contingency there, but I think

5374
03:18:50,240 --> 03:18:52,240
that we

5375
03:18:52,240 --> 03:18:53,240
address that as it comes in our primary

5376
03:18:53,240 --> 03:18:55,240
goal is to

5377
03:18:55,240 --> 03:18:59,240
get this straight on. So with that,

5378
03:18:59,240 --> 03:19:02,240
I will motion to approve

5379
03:19:05,240 --> 03:19:08,240
, to award rf p number

5380
03:19:11,240 --> 03:19:12,240
25-255 sportsplex as presented, up

5381
03:19:12,240 --> 03:19:14,240
to the

5382
03:19:14,240 --> 03:19:17,240
dollar amount in the item, which

5383
03:19:17,240 --> 03:19:19,640
is the total proposal

5384
03:19:23,240 --> 03:19:24,240
.

5385
03:19:24,240 --> 03:19:25,240
>> I have

5386
03:19:25,240 --> 03:19:26,240
a question.

5387
03:19:26,240 --> 03:19:28,240
>> for the discussion.

5388
03:19:29,240 --> 03:19:30,240
miss williams?

5389
03:19:30,240 --> 03:19:31,240
>>

5390
03:19:31,240 --> 03:19:32,240
on other things to keep in mind is

5391
03:19:32,240 --> 03:19:34,240
the timeline

5392
03:19:35,240 --> 03:19:37,240
. We only have so many

5393
03:19:37,240 --> 03:19:38,240
days to get this done, and bring this

5394
03:19:38,240 --> 03:19:40,240
back to counsel

5395
03:19:43,240 --> 03:19:44,240
on the change order is not going to

5396
03:19:44,240 --> 03:19:46,240
be efficient, that we will end up

5397
03:19:46,240 --> 03:19:47,240
being behind schedule. So one of the

5398
03:19:47,240 --> 03:19:48,240
things to think about is to

5399
03:19:48,240 --> 03:19:49,240
authorize the city manager to hit

5400
03:19:49,240 --> 03:19:50,240
change orders that do not exceed the

5401
03:19:50,240 --> 03:19:52,640
state required a maximum

5402
03:19:53,240 --> 03:19:54,240
of 25%. Then when we are done and they

5403
03:19:54,240 --> 03:19:55,240
can move

5404
03:19:55,240 --> 03:19:56,240
this project through as quickly as

5405
03:19:56,240 --> 03:19:59,240
possible. Because time is money in

5406
03:19:59,240 --> 03:20:00,240
this instance.

5407
03:20:00,240 --> 03:20:02,240
>> I have a

5408
03:20:02,240 --> 03:20:04,240
question, as well.

5409
03:20:05,240 --> 03:20:08,240
do we need to include

5410
03:20:08,240 --> 03:20:12,440
the lighting, so it needs to be 15

5411
03:20:14,240 --> 03:20:15,240
--now?

5412
03:20:15,240 --> 03:20:16,240
>> there will be a separate

5413
03:20:16,240 --> 03:20:17,240
action, to counsel for the lighting

5414
03:20:17,240 --> 03:20:19,640
in a future meeting.

5415
03:20:20,240 --> 03:20:22,240
>> valid point.

5416
03:20:29,240 --> 03:20:31,240
>> I am up

5417
03:20:32,240 --> 03:20:34,240
for an amendment,

5418
03:20:35,240 --> 03:20:36,240
on this one, I feel like if we are

5419
03:20:36,240 --> 03:20:37,240
going to stand firm

5420
03:20:37,240 --> 03:20:38,240
on any project, this is one. They

5421
03:20:38,240 --> 03:20:40,640
give us a timeline,

5422
03:20:44,240 --> 03:20:45,240
down to the dollar, and if they have

5423
03:20:45,240 --> 03:20:46,240
to come

5424
03:20:46,240 --> 03:20:50,440
back for a change they are making,

5425
03:20:51,240 --> 03:20:52,240
--

5426
03:20:52,240 --> 03:20:53,240
>>

5427
03:20:53,240 --> 03:20:54,240
that is not the change order. Change

5428
03:20:54,240 --> 03:20:56,240
order is a change that we are making,

5429
03:20:56,240 --> 03:20:57,240
unless there is an unknown. If there

5430
03:20:57,240 --> 03:20:58,240
is no contingency

5431
03:20:58,240 --> 03:21:00,240
and they get out there and they start

5432
03:21:00,240 --> 03:21:02,640
working and something happens

5433
03:21:06,240 --> 03:21:07,240
, or there is something in the

5434
03:21:07,240 --> 03:21:08,240
ground that they didn't know was there,

5435
03:21:08,240 --> 03:21:10,240
then that means they have to stop

5436
03:21:10,240 --> 03:21:11,240
work, wait to get on the agenda for

5437
03:21:11,240 --> 03:21:12,240
counsel, comebacks, and he has already

5438
03:21:12,240 --> 03:21:13,240
given away

5439
03:21:13,240 --> 03:21:15,240
all of our ld days, 50 days, and how

5440
03:21:15,240 --> 03:21:17,240
much per day

5441
03:21:18,240 --> 03:21:19,240
was that?

5442
03:21:19,240 --> 03:21:21,240
>> 2000. >> yeah. So,

5443
03:21:21,240 --> 03:21:22,240
we don't want to

5444
03:21:22,240 --> 03:21:24,240
give away more days, because they

5445
03:21:24,240 --> 03:21:25,240
have to wait to come back to us,

5446
03:21:25,240 --> 03:21:27,240
when the city manager can easily resolve

5447
03:21:27,240 --> 03:21:29,240
the matter.

5448
03:21:36,240 --> 03:21:37,240
now, if you want to set

5449
03:21:37,240 --> 03:21:39,240
it and say, only 10%, I am cool with

5450
03:21:39,240 --> 03:21:40,240
that, right? But we

5451
03:21:40,240 --> 03:21:42,240
want to make sure that we are not paying

5452
03:21:42,240 --> 03:21:43,240
for the inefficiency of waiting for it

5453
03:21:43,240 --> 03:21:44,240
to come back for counsel, for us to

5454
03:21:44,240 --> 03:21:46,240
have to make that decision on the

5455
03:21:46,240 --> 03:21:47,240
change order.

5456
03:21:47,240 --> 03:21:48,240
>> okay. I hear you.

5457
03:21:48,240 --> 03:21:49,240
I didn't mention this earlier, but

5458
03:21:49,240 --> 03:21:51,240
there is

5459
03:21:51,240 --> 03:21:53,240
the design factor. 15%, we

5460
03:21:53,240 --> 03:21:54,240
went to 16 and all of a sudden it

5461
03:21:54,240 --> 03:21:56,240
21.6. I am

5462
03:21:57,240 --> 03:21:58,240
hoping the 1.6 is worth

5463
03:21:58,240 --> 03:22:00,240
it and there aren't any unknowns.

5464
03:22:00,240 --> 03:22:02,240
with other

5465
03:22:03,240 --> 03:22:04,240
projects when there are

5466
03:22:04,240 --> 03:22:06,240
lives at stake and buildings and that

5467
03:22:06,240 --> 03:22:08,240
kind of stuff, I get it.

5468
03:22:08,240 --> 03:22:12,240
this is pretty plain jane out there.

5469
03:22:12,240 --> 03:22:15,240
1.6 to design a field and

5470
03:22:15,240 --> 03:22:17,240
softball field, you

5471
03:22:18,240 --> 03:22:21,240
know, my patience for that

5472
03:22:21,240 --> 03:22:22,240
--but I hear you, as far as not wanting

5473
03:22:22,240 --> 03:22:24,240
to

5474
03:22:24,240 --> 03:22:27,240
delay the project, as well. So,

5475
03:22:27,240 --> 03:22:30,240
let me ask the city

5476
03:22:30,240 --> 03:22:32,240
manager down there,

5477
03:22:32,240 --> 03:22:33,240
how tight can we make that, to where

5478
03:22:33,240 --> 03:22:35,640
you will not lose

5479
03:22:36,240 --> 03:22:38,240
sleep over it

5480
03:22:39,240 --> 03:22:40,240
? 10%?

5481
03:22:40,240 --> 03:22:41,240
>> if you make it

5482
03:22:41,240 --> 03:22:42,240
14.9, then it will be 14.9 , and we

5483
03:22:42,240 --> 03:22:44,240
will work within

5484
03:22:45,240 --> 03:22:46,240
the confines of that , and something

5485
03:22:46,240 --> 03:22:47,240
comes

5486
03:22:47,240 --> 03:22:48,240
up we will bring it to you and there

5487
03:22:48,240 --> 03:22:51,240
will be some delays. If you

5488
03:22:51,240 --> 03:22:54,240
do a 3%, I think that is about

5489
03:22:54,240 --> 03:22:56,240
$500,000, that is a good amount to get

5490
03:22:56,240 --> 03:22:59,240
started on. I would recommend 10%

5491
03:23:00,240 --> 03:23:02,240
,

5492
03:23:03,240 --> 03:23:06,240
if we don't have the budget

5493
03:23:06,240 --> 03:23:09,240
>> okay, so building and 3.5? Okay.

5494
03:23:09,240 --> 03:23:10,240
I hear you completely and I

5495
03:23:10,240 --> 03:23:12,240
don't want to slow down unnecessarily, but

5496
03:23:12,240 --> 03:23:15,240
at some point in time, we have to

5497
03:23:15,240 --> 03:23:17,640
hold these plans, and

5498
03:23:21,240 --> 03:23:22,240
one of these days, we will

5499
03:23:22,240 --> 03:23:24,240
hit what we plan on the money. That

5500
03:23:24,240 --> 03:23:25,240
is why we spend the money to

5501
03:23:25,240 --> 03:23:27,240
planet upfront, right? If we can do

5502
03:23:27,240 --> 03:23:29,240
it I feel like this is the project

5503
03:23:29,240 --> 03:23:30,240
to do it on. With that, I will amend

5504
03:23:30,240 --> 03:23:31,240
the motion to include the 3%

5505
03:23:31,240 --> 03:23:33,240
contingency. As well. And to confirm,

5506
03:23:33,240 --> 03:23:35,240
it is the 14.98 and change. Thank

5507
03:23:35,240 --> 03:23:36,240
you.

5508
03:23:36,240 --> 03:23:37,240
>> all right, we have a motion

5509
03:23:37,240 --> 03:23:39,240
and a second.

5510
03:23:39,240 --> 03:23:41,240
are we good?

5511
03:23:42,240 --> 03:23:44,640
all those in favor?

5512
03:23:45,240 --> 03:23:47,640
any opposed? Motion carries.

5513
03:23:51,240 --> 03:23:53,240
congratulations.

5514
03:23:56,240 --> 03:23:57,240
>> thank you all very much. >> k5

5515
03:23:57,240 --> 03:23:58,240
is deliberation of possible action

5516
03:23:58,240 --> 03:24:00,240
to accept the resignation and appointed

5517
03:24:00,240 --> 03:24:03,240
the 2025 members on the city's boards,

5518
03:24:03,240 --> 03:24:05,240
commissions, and committees

5519
03:24:06,240 --> 03:24:07,240
, arts commission, main street advisory

5520
03:24:07,240 --> 03:24:09,240
board,

5521
03:24:09,240 --> 03:24:11,640
and planning and zoning

5522
03:24:12,240 --> 03:24:14,240
commission.

5523
03:24:14,240 --> 03:24:15,240
miss ramirez?

5524
03:24:15,240 --> 03:24:16,240
>> yes, mayor. The nominations committee

5525
03:24:16,240 --> 03:24:17,240
met last week, and we have

5526
03:24:17,240 --> 03:24:18,240
filled all the vacancies to date.

5527
03:24:18,240 --> 03:24:21,240
we did have an additional

5528
03:24:21,240 --> 03:24:23,240
one on the arts commission

5529
03:24:23,240 --> 03:24:24,240
which opened up another vacancy. So,

5530
03:24:24,240 --> 03:24:27,240
the nominations are as follows.

5531
03:24:27,240 --> 03:24:29,240
for arts commission, yvette

5532
03:24:29,240 --> 03:24:30,240
hurst. For main street advisory board,

5533
03:24:30,240 --> 03:24:32,240
ellen cates and

5534
03:24:33,240 --> 03:24:35,240
erika wasik goes.

5535
03:24:36,240 --> 03:24:38,240
and for planning and zoning, valerie moya

5536
03:24:38,240 --> 03:24:41,840
>> thank you. Anything from our committee

5537
03:24:42,240 --> 03:24:43,240
? Questions or comments?

5538
03:24:43,240 --> 03:24:45,240
>> what was that last appointment?

5539
03:24:45,240 --> 03:24:47,240
>> lori moya

5540
03:24:48,240 --> 03:24:49,240
to planning and zoning.

5541
03:24:49,240 --> 03:24:51,240
>> thank you.

5542
03:24:51,240 --> 03:24:53,240
>> questions or comments?

5543
03:24:54,240 --> 03:24:56,640
>> real quick, who rolled

5544
03:24:57,240 --> 03:25:00,240
off arts , do you know? Whose term

5545
03:25:00,240 --> 03:25:01,240
ended?

5546
03:25:01,240 --> 03:25:03,240
>> it didn't end, he resigned.

5547
03:25:03,240 --> 03:25:04,240
steve mccord.

5548
03:25:04,240 --> 03:25:06,240
>> okay.

5549
03:25:06,240 --> 03:25:08,240
thank you.

5550
03:25:09,240 --> 03:25:11,240
>>

5551
03:25:12,240 --> 03:25:15,240
just as a really quick note,

5552
03:25:15,240 --> 03:25:18,240
the applications that we reviewed

5553
03:25:21,240 --> 03:25:23,240
, the nominations

5554
03:25:23,240 --> 03:25:24,240
committee had a lot of people that

5555
03:25:24,240 --> 03:25:26,240
were interested in a lot of the same

5556
03:25:26,240 --> 03:25:27,240
boards and commissions , and being

5557
03:25:27,240 --> 03:25:29,240
able to balance

5558
03:25:30,240 --> 03:25:32,640
out folks who live

5559
03:25:33,240 --> 03:25:35,240
in the

5560
03:25:36,240 --> 03:25:38,240
number that

5561
03:25:38,240 --> 03:25:39,240
can be added to the board or commission

5562
03:25:39,240 --> 03:25:41,240
was quite the process to get

5563
03:25:41,240 --> 03:25:42,240
through, so, the final result that

5564
03:25:42,240 --> 03:25:45,240
was presented tonight has really

5565
03:25:45,240 --> 03:25:47,240
been thoughtfully selected

5566
03:25:48,240 --> 03:25:51,240
. We did interviews last time, just

5567
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:53,240
to make sure that we had good fits

5568
03:25:53,240 --> 03:25:54,240
, so we have done due diligence, and

5569
03:25:54,240 --> 03:25:57,240
hope that you guys would

5570
03:25:57,240 --> 03:25:58,240
be accepting of the candidates that

5571
03:25:58,240 --> 03:25:59,240
we put forward.

5572
03:25:59,240 --> 03:26:00,240
>>

5573
03:26:00,240 --> 03:26:02,240
thank you.

5574
03:26:03,240 --> 03:26:05,240
>> exactly

5575
03:26:05,240 --> 03:26:06,240
what I was asking for. Comments from

5576
03:26:06,240 --> 03:26:09,240
the committee. I appreciate the time

5577
03:26:09,240 --> 03:26:11,240
--I know you

5578
03:26:11,240 --> 03:26:12,240
did interviews, we are taking steps

5579
03:26:12,240 --> 03:26:13,240
further than we did in the past, but,

5580
03:26:13,240 --> 03:26:15,240
that

5581
03:26:15,240 --> 03:26:18,240
is good. It is a good thing

5582
03:26:18,240 --> 03:26:20,240
you do.

5583
03:26:21,240 --> 03:26:23,240
public testimony on this item? I

5584
03:26:23,240 --> 03:26:24,240
will make a motion that we accept the

5585
03:26:24,240 --> 03:26:26,240
resignations and the appointments

5586
03:26:26,240 --> 03:26:27,240
as presented in k5.

5587
03:26:27,240 --> 03:26:28,240
>> second. >>

5588
03:26:28,240 --> 03:26:30,240
motion and a second. All

5589
03:26:30,240 --> 03:26:33,240
those in favor? Any opposed?

5590
03:26:33,240 --> 03:26:35,640
motion carries. That brings

5591
03:26:36,240 --> 03:26:39,840
us into l1. Council will recess

5592
03:26:40,240 --> 03:26:43,240
regular session and convene into

5593
03:26:43,240 --> 03:26:44,240
executive session

5594
03:26:44,240 --> 03:26:45,240
to deliberate on agenda items pursuant

5595
03:26:45,240 --> 03:26:48,240
to texas government code chapter 551,

5596
03:26:49,240 --> 03:26:50,240
section 551.071, consultation

5597
03:26:50,240 --> 03:26:53,240
with city attorney regarding her a,

5598
03:26:53,240 --> 03:26:55,240
hayes commons proposed development,

5599
03:26:55,240 --> 03:26:57,240
and b,

5600
03:27:01,240 --> 03:27:02,240
section 551.087,

5601
03:27:02,240 --> 03:27:03,240
deliberation regarding economic development

5602
03:27:03,240 --> 03:27:04,240
negotiations regarding performance

5603
03:27:04,240 --> 03:27:06,240
agreement negotiations, performance

5604
03:27:10,240 --> 03:27:11,240
agreement

5605
03:27:11,240 --> 03:27:12,240
obligations for project feathered

5606
03:27:12,240 --> 03:27:13,240
flames, project san antonio, and project

5607
03:27:13,240 --> 03:27:15,240
leather boots. With that, we

5608
03:27:15,240 --> 03:27:18,840
will get into executive session at 9:57.