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there are more seats up front

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of you.

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to everybody here.

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Pledge of Allegiance and really

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fortunate that we have some

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of our youth here.

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the kids who made it all the

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way from Washington Elementary

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but also our Red Parrots AYSO

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soccer team

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to stand and lead us in the

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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everybody will jump in.

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I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United

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States of America and

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to the republic

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for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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indivisible,

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with liberty and justice

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for all.

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Madam City Clerk, could I have

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a roll call, please?

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Council Member Thayer?

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Here.

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Council Member Colson?

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Mayor Stevenson?

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I see we have no requests

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for AB 2449, remote

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participation.

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to item number five,

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which is a report out

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from the closed session.

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Mr. City Attorney.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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There is no reportable action.

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upcoming events

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at our library and elsewhere,

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our park and rec department.

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the 3D printing lab

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drop into the library's 3D

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printing open lab.

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printers, how

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to start a print job.

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creations with other 3D

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How to use your AI tools

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in your job search.

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of AI as well as specific tools

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analyze and improve your resume

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department, the Royal Ball

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Burlingame is the city

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to celebrate all the trees and

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The Senior St. Patrick's Day

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Irish tea, delicious bread

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from Fiddler's Green and Molly

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pre-registration and payment

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email address is cconefrey

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to reserve a spot, and again,

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there is no fee

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I'll pause for a moment

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to see if my colleagues on

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council have any other upcoming

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events they want

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Yes, Vice Mayor Brownrigg.

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but this Saturday, Nuts for

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Candy is celebrating its 30th

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anniversary here in the city

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of Burlingame, from 2 to 3 p.m.

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Candy and Mr. Cabranian, then

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and a lot less fun than this

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evening, but on March 12th,

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start time.

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to see as many people here for

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that event as there are here

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to get your ballot in

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for the special election, and

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reasons, not necessarily a

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national election.

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upcoming events,

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of the exciting parts of City

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in and want to let us know

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about something, a major

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accomplishment,

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and some exciting news.

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Burlingame Red Parrots could

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stand when I call your name,

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but we're recognizing you

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for the tremendous effort

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of not only doing well locally,

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in the AYSO Western States

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of star athletes at your level

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you coming and sharing that

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story, and I think Coach

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or did I have that right?

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How does that sound?

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But you've got to promise that

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you'll frame it and put it

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on the wall in your house,

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I might have grabbed it

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sure you have the certificate.

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notes or comments or

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I love AYSO.

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Everyone plays, balanced teams,

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was such a great community I

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met parents, so many other

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people, and my kids met people

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that weren't

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in their schools,

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and I really enjoyed it.

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And I also met former Mayor

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Ricardo Ortiz through that,

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because I served on the board

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for 10 years, over 10 years.

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And it's just a wonderful

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organization, and I'm just so

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happy that it's so strong

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in our community.

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And thank you

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to all the volunteers, the

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players, and the parents who

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are here and involved.

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Thank you.

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Council Member Donna Colson.

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Thank you.

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Well, I just want to say

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to all of you young women,

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aspiring young women,

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congratulations.

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And I'm so happy to see that

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your organization stood up for

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you and made sure that you got

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the recognition you deserved

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for what you're doing today.

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It is incredibly special

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to be able

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to go and represent our city

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at this elite level.

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And what I'm particularly proud

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about is the beautiful

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diversity that I see sitting

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in front of me, the way that

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you comport yourselves

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on the field, the graciousness

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with which you win and

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with which you lose, because

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those, my friends, are the

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attributes and the lessons that

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you are going to learn that

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will someday carry you

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into adulthood,

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into womanhood, and into being

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amazing young businesswomen,

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teachers, leaders,

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whatever you decide to do.

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So this journey, while it is

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about soccer for the

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near term, and I'm excited and

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hope you and wish you the best

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in your tournament,

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the appreciation that I have

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for you representing our city

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so beautifully and your amazing

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coaches and the standard that

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they set and the time and

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commitment that they put into

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this are really what I'm most

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proud about.

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So thank you, and I look

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forward to 20 years

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from now seeing some

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of you ladies sitting up here

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in these seats.

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Thank you.

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Councilmember Thayer.

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So I'll just make very brief

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remarks just

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to say congratulations

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to you young ladies.

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You've worked really hard,

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and I hope you represent us

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well, both, as Councilmember

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Colson said, both on the field

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but also off the field.

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And also congratulations to all

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the coaches and parents.

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This is a really unique

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opportunity where,

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as was mentioned by

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Councilmember Pappajohn,

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everyone gets to play

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in AYSO, and it's volunteer

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run, and that really speaks

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to the community that we have

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in Burlingame, where we're very

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diverse and we want to make

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sure that everyone's included

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and everyone has a time

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to play.

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So congratulations and good

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luck.

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Vice Mayor Brownrigg.

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I'll be quick.

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Have fun.

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These kind of things don't

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happen all that often.

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I can tell you, I never got

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to a regional anything,

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so good for you.

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We can confirm that.

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Enjoy every, work hard.

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Your coaches have put a lot

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of time in.

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Your parents have.

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Work hard.

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Have fun.

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And have fun.

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That's really the message I

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wanted to leave

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with you guys.

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But we're all so proud

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of you.

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Thank you.

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So, on behalf of the whole

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Council, we just want

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to wish you good luck.

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Have fun.

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Stay safe.

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Enjoy the time.

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Bring back memories.

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Thank your parents.

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Thank your coaches.

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It's a wonderful thing.

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And so, we'll enjoy it

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from afar,

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but you go and enjoy it

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on the field, okay?

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Excellent.

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You guys can go forward just a

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little bit.

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Tall girls, come back here.

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This is like when you took your

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AYSO picture.

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Come on over.

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Come on over.

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Should we go,

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should we do a cheer

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for the red parrots,

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like let's go parrots,

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or what?

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Sure.

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All right.

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The whole community.

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Let's go parrots.

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Awesome.

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Don't have to take it all

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with you.

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Two more hours.

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All right.

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I'm sure you have a whole crew

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of friends.

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We appreciate it.

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Thanks again.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So moving on to item number

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eight, public comments,

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non-agenda.

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These are for the members

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of the public who may want

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to speak about a topic that is

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not formally on the agenda.

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Just so you know, the mic

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at the podium is yours

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for anybody who wants to speak

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about a topic as long as it's

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not on the agenda.

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And also the council itself

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can't respond to it.

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We just take this as input, but

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if you have a public comment

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open, you know, feel free

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to come

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on up.

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I do have one card from Brian

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Lee.

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Is Brian here today?

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Excellent.

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Come on up, Brian.

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Hello, Mayor, Council.

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My name is Brian Lee, I'm at

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1468 Benito Avenue since

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1951.

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I'm here today to talk about

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speed bumps that I call stop

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bumps on Adeline Alvarado and

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Carmelita.

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I understand there's a need

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for control for speeding on

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Hillside.

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The cars are going very fast up

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and down, especially on the

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straightaway.

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I think that

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with the new gymnasium,

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which I support

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at our activity center at

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Mercy, you're going to have

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more traffic and I've got a

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little bit of a solution.

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Number one, the speed bumps,

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I was told, I think are

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temporary.

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I hope they are.

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I think you should construct

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them very similar to the ones

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on Hillside Drive that are

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near the fire station and

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to the west of that.

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They slow down traffic,

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they don't jar your car,

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and they're safe

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for bicyclists.

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So I don't think there's a need

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on Benito.

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You can check with the people

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who live there,

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there's not a lot of traffic

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there.

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I think there is a need on

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Adeline and on Alvarado

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for sure.

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I have an idea for speed

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controls.

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In Scottsdale, Arizona, they

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just initiated a new program

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with photo radar that are

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portable.

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The key is they're portable.

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They're the size

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of a mailbox,

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maybe a little taller.

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They work real well.

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They're portable,

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so you can move them

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around and so nobody can plan

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on where they are.

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I like to drive smooth, fast

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at times and whatever, but

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these things work.

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I have some photos that I'd

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like to distribute to you

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of what they look

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like and I guess I'll give them

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to you a little later or

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whatever.

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I really think you should

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consider this product and the

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comments that I made about how

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to build a good, accurate speed

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bump that will slow down

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traffic and not hurt the

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suspension on your cars.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Mr. Lee.

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Any other public comments

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for non-agenda items?

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Anything online?

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Okay.

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Seeing none, we'll move on

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to item number nine,

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our consent calendar.

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Let me ask my colleagues if

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there are any items on the

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consent calendar that anybody

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would like to pull.

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Seeing none.

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Anybody from the public that

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would like to pull any item

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on consent?

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Seeing none in the room.

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Anything online?

575
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No.

576
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We don't pull.

577
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Okay.

578
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No longer doing online.

579
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Okay.

580
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Can I have a motion from the

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council to approve the consent

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calendar?

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It's all moved.

584
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Second.

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So we have a motion by Vice

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Mayor Brownrigg and a second

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by Council Member Pappajohn.

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Madam City Clerk, can we have a

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roll call?

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Council Member Thayer?

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Yes.

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Council Member Colson?

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Yes.

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Council Member Pappajohn?

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Yes.

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Vice Mayor Brownrigg?

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Yes.

598
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,000
Mayor Stevenson?

599
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000
Yes.

600
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,000
Okay.

601
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,000
Thank you.

602
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000
I suspect this is going

603
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
to be the longer part

604
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000
of the evening,

605
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
so we're all settled

606
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,000
in and look forward

607
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,000
to getting started.

608
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,400
Item number 10A requires

609
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,400
excusing Vice Mayor Brownrigg

610
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
as Vice Mayor Brownrigg is part

611
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000
and parcel

612
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,400
to the applicant process.

613
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000
Excellent.

614
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000
Okay.

615
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Item number 10 requires some

616
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000
instructions that I'll read and

617
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,600
then I'll ask our Director of

618
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Community Development to come

619
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,000
up and address as the first

620
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000
step.

621
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,000
So at this time, the Council

622
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000
will consider the review of

623
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,000
2750 and 2300 Adeline Drive

624
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000
zoned R1 and their application

625
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000
for commercial design review,

626
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
hillside area construction

627
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000
permit and variance for

628
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000
building height and amendment

629
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000
to conditional use permit for

630
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000
the construction and operation

631
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
of a new athletic center and

632
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000
outdoor swimming pool on the

633
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,400
Mercy High School property.

634
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000
This project was approved

635
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
by the Planning Commission

636
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000
during their October 15th,

637
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
2024 regularly scheduled

638
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000
meeting.

639
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
Following that meeting,

640
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000
Councilmember at that time,

641
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
now Vice Mayor Michael

642
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Brownrigg

643
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000
in his capacity as a

644
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Councilmember filed a timely

645
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,000
call for review of the

646
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000
Planning Commission approval as

647
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
authorized by BMC section

648
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000
2598.030.

649
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000
This meeting was scheduled

650
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,000
in accordance

651
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,000
with the timeline specified

652
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000
in the Burlingame Municipal

653
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Code.

654
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000
Following his timely call

655
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000
for review, Councilmember

656
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,400
Brownrigg requested an opinion

657
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000
from the Fair Political

658
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,000
Practices Commission known as

659
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000
the FPPC as

660
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
to whether he had the conflict

661
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000
of interest

662
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000
on this matter based

663
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
on his home's proximity

664
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,000
to the project site.

665
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,000
The FPPC determined that a

666
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,400
conflict did exist, therefore

667
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000
Councilmember and now Vice

668
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Mayor Brownrigg will be

669
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000
recusing himself from this item

670
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000
and therefore will be

671
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000
presenting any evidence and or

672
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000
testimony solely in his private

673
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,000
capacity as a resident and not

674
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,000
as an official of the City of

675
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Burlingame.

676
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000
This hearing will proceed

677
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000
in the following manner.

678
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000
First we will receive a staff

679
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,400
presentation and the Council

680
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000
will ask any questions

681
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000
of staff at this time.

682
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Following staff's presentation,

683
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000
the individual who called

684
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000
for the item for review,

685
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000
in this case Mr. Michael

686
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Brownrigg, will have 10 minutes

687
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,000
to present his case as

688
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
to why the Planning

689
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Commission's approval should be

690
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000
overturned in whole or

691
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,000
in part.

692
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Following this 10 minute

693
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,000
period,

694
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,000
the applicant will receive 10

695
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000
minutes

696
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,000
to present their case.

697
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000
Following the applicant's time,

698
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000
we will move to public comment

699
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
on the item.

700
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,000
Any member of the public who is

701
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000
not a party to the hearing may

702
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
speak for 3 minutes each.

703
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Following public comment, Mr.

704
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Brownrigg will receive an

705
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000
additional 5 minute period

706
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000
to address the Council and

707
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
present any rebuttal or final

708
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000
testimony, and then finally the

709
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
applicant will receive 5

710
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000
minutes to provide their

711
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,000
rebuttal and or final

712
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,000
testimony.

713
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,000
Councilmembers may ask

714
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,000
questions following the

715
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000
conclusion of any party's

716
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
presentation and responses

717
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000
to questions will not be

718
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000
counted

719
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000
against the allotted time for

720
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000
the respective presentations.

721
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Councilmembers should reserve

722
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
their comments

723
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000
for a deliberation portion

724
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
of the preceding.

725
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
Staff have all the parties been

726
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,000
notified

727
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000
of this hearing pursuant

728
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000
to the requirements of the

729
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Burlingame Municipal Code

730
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000
related to calls for review?

731
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Yes, they have.

732
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Excellent.

733
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Mayor, I will now ask

734
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
for my fellow Councilmembers to

735
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
disclose any ex parte

736
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
communications they may have

737
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000
had related to this item.

738
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000
Have any members of Council had

739
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
any ex parte communications

740
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000
on this item?

741
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Yes.

742
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000
Councilmember Colson?

743
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000
Yes, I have spoken

744
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
to the leadership at Mercy

745
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,000
High School.

746
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Councilmember Pappajohn?

747
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
Yes, I have also spoken

748
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000
to the leadership at Mercy

749
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000
High School.

750
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,000
I also met with former Mayor

751
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Anne Keagren and I had a couple

752
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000
very brief minutes with Vice

753
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Mayor Michael Brownrigg.

754
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000
I spoke with resident Lynn

755
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Israelit and resident Mike

756
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Collins and I'd like to

757
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000
disclose that I did have a

758
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000
child who went to Mercy but

759
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000
later transferred and I can say

760
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000
that I am an unbiased decision

761
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
maker.

762
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
Excellent.

763
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000
No, I have not had any ex parte

764
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,000
communication and I thank the

765
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000
community who did reach

766
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
out and was respectful

767
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000
of my decision

768
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000
to not have any.

769
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,000
Thank you, Councilmember

770
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Thayer.

771
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000
I have had two ex parte

772
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000
conversations,

773
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000
an impromptu meeting with

774
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Vice Mayor Michael Brownrigg

775
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000
and also a meeting

776
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000
with the leadership at Mercy

777
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000
High School.

778
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
So when we get to public

779
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,000
comment, how many

780
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
in the room are planning

781
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
to speak?

782
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Raise your hand.

783
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000
We should reduce the three

784
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
minutes.

785
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Okay, and online too?

786
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
No.

787
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
We don't take.

788
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000
Okay.

789
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
So we're going to start

790
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000
with the two minutes each.

791
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
We want to make sure everybody

792
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
has an opportunity

793
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
to speak and to share their

794
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
input and that way we'll make

795
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000
sure that we're respectful

796
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000
of time and the process.

797
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,400
To get started though,

798
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,000
we're going to first have our

799
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000
staff report led by our

800
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Director of Community

801
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Development, Netta.

802
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Good evening, Mayor, City

803
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,000
Councilmembers, Netta Thayer,

804
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Community Development Director

805
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
with the City of Burlingame.

806
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000
I will not be presenting

807
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
tonight.

808
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
I actually have Senior

809
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Planner Erica Lewitt here

810
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
tonight and she'll be providing

811
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
the presentation.

812
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
She's been the Project Planner

813
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000
through the duration

814
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,000
of this project.

815
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
She and I will be available

816
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000
for questions, but she'll be

817
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000
giving the presentation.

818
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Good evening, Council.

819
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
I'll start

820
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400
with the existing site.

821
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Okay.

822
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Thank you.

823
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000
The existing site is located

824
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
at the corner of Hoover Avenue

825
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
and Adeline Drive.

826
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000
You can see

827
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
on the left side aerial shown

828
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
on the slide.

829
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
It's surrounded by single unit

830
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
dwellings that are both

831
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
in the County of San Mateo and

832
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000
in the City of Burlingame.

833
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,100
The site actually has two lots.

834
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:05,100
The larger is owned by Sisters

835
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,100
of Mercy and has the address

836
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,401
2300 Adeline Drive and the

837
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,100
smaller is owned by Mercy

838
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,100
High School with the address

839
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,100
of 2750 Adeline Drive.

840
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,100
The two lots are treated as a

841
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,100
single site for the purposes

842
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
of zoning administration.

843
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,100
That's because there are a

844
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,100
number of existing unrecorded

845
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,100
cross-access easements

846
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
between the sites,

847
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,100
which keep them

848
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,100
from operating independently.

849
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:32,100
There's also an existing

850
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
conditional use permit that was

851
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,100
approved in 2010 that governs

852
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:36,100
the operations

853
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,100
on the properties, and that

854
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,100
links the properties together

855
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,100
as a single site.

856
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,100
On the right side

857
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:44,100
of the slide,

858
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:45,100
you can see blown up the

859
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:46,100
Sisters of Mercy campus, and

860
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,401
the project location is

861
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,100
outlined in blue.

862
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
Here we see two renderings

863
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,100
of the project shown.

864
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,100
The October 2024 Planning

865
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
Commission action of approval

866
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,401
of the project entitled

867
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,100
Commercial Design Review,

868
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,100
Hillside Area Construction

869
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,100
Permit, a Variance for

870
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,100
Building Height, and Amendment

871
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,100
to the Conditional Use Permit

872
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:20,100
for a New Athletic Center.

873
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,100
The project was submitted in

874
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,100
January 2023 and went

875
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
to two public hearings

876
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,100
before the Planning

877
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,100
Commission.

878
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,100
A study hearing June 2024 and

879
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,100
an action hearing in October

880
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,100
2024.

881
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,100
You can see on the slide the

882
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,100
site plan

883
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,100
for the approved project,

884
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,100
and the details

885
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:42,100
of the project include a Class

886
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,100
14 categorical exemption

887
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,100
for CEQA to demolish the

888
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,100
existing tennis courts and

889
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,100
outdoor pool to build a new

890
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,100
16,319 square foot gymnasium

891
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,100
and a new regulation size

892
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,100
outdoor pool.

893
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,100
The yellow arm that stretches

894
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100
from the buildings out to the

895
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
parking lot is an ADA

896
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,100
accessible pedestrian walkway.

897
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,100
In the upper right hand corner,

898
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,100
you can see there's the

899
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,100
existing Grisilli parking lot,

900
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,100
and it's going

901
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,100
to be re-striped and re-paved

902
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,401
to add 15 parking spaces.

903
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,100
At the lower side, you'll see,

904
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,100
also highlighted in yellow,

905
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,100
a little arm leading

906
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,100
from the building out to

907
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,100
Adeline Drive.

908
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,100
This is an emergency vehicle

909
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,100
access road that's required

910
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,100
by fire regulations.

911
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100
The approved project that went

912
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,100
forward to the Planning

913
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,100
Commission showed the removal

914
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,100
of 20 protected size trees,

915
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,100
and finally a revision to the

916
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,100
Conditional Use Permit so that

917
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
the hours for after school

918
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,100
activities and the gymnasium

919
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,100
match the existing end times

920
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:50,401
for the Cole Mansion.

921
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,100
There was, as the Mayor

922
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,100
mentioned,

923
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:01,100
there was a timely call

924
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,100
for review

925
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:06,100
of the project approval, and

926
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,100
there were five items brought

927
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,100
up in this call for review.

928
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:11,100
The request to protect an

929
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,100
existing walking path

930
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:15,100
on site, that the emergency

931
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:18,100
access road did not be used

932
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,100
for pedestrian access,

933
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,100
that the Commission did not

934
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
adequately discuss a third

935
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,100
party rental

936
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
of the gymnasium, an insurance

937
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:29,100
that guests do not park

938
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,100
in the neighborhood, and

939
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
to ensure that 7% of Mercy

940
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,100
students shuttle

941
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
to the school.

942
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,100
I'll now go over each of these

943
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,100
appeal items individually.

944
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,100
The first item in the call

945
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:47,100
for review was that the

946
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,100
Planning Commission did not

947
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,100
address a neighbor request to

948
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:51,100
maintain a pedestrian parkway

949
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,401
that's on the site.

950
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
The facts regarding the path is

951
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100
that it's

952
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,100
on private property.

953
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:00,100
It was never formally

954
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,100
memorialized at any stage

955
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100
of the site's existence in the

956
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,100
county or the city's

957
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,100
jurisdiction.

958
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100
Public access to any private

959
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,100
property is also not required

960
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,100
by the Burlingame Municipal

961
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:13,100
Code or

962
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,100
to the specific private

963
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:15,100
property by any existing legal

964
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,100
agreements.

965
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,100
For these reasons,

966
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
the path was not included

967
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
on the project plans or as part

968
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100
of the application,

969
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,100
but I've shown here on this

970
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,100
aerial an approximate location.

971
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100
It runs parallel to Adeline

972
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,100
Drive, and it's shown in red

973
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,100
on the slide.

974
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,100
During the hearings,

975
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:37,100
the request to have the public

976
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,100
access guaranteed was brought

977
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,100
forth by a member

978
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,100
of the public.

979
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:44,100
The applicant for the project

980
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,100
noted that the path extends

981
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
across both properties,

982
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,100
and that Mercy High School

983
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
could not legally grant access

984
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,100
to sisters of Mercy private

985
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,100
property.

986
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,100
The applicant stated that the

987
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
owners of the property

988
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,100
like the idea of continuing

989
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,100
to offer this amenity

990
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,100
to the public,

991
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,100
but are prevented

992
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,100
from formalizing access

993
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,100
with an agreement because

994
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,100
of security, safety, and

995
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,100
liability concerns that are

996
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,100
associated

997
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,100
with allowing public access to

998
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:13,100
a school site and private

999
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,100
property.

1000
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:16,100
The commission acknowledged

1001
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,100
these security and liability

1002
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,100
concerns and did not add a

1003
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
condition of approval that

1004
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,100
required public access

1005
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,100
to the site.

1006
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:27,100
The second item brought up

1007
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
in the call for review was that

1008
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
the commission did not address

1009
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,100
a request to prevent parking

1010
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:33,100
and pedestrian access

1011
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,100
from the emergency access road

1012
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,100
off Adeline Drive.

1013
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,100
You can see the approved plans

1014
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,100
here on the slide,

1015
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,100
and the access lane is required

1016
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,100
by the fire division

1017
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,100
to improve emergency access

1018
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,100
to the site.

1019
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,100
The approved plans were

1020
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,100
reviewed by the fire division

1021
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,100
and show that the road will

1022
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,100
have a locked gate that can

1023
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:55,100
only be opened

1024
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,100
by school staff or by emergency

1025
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,100
response personnel.

1026
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,100
That's using something known as

1027
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,100
a knock box.

1028
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,100
The plans also show that the

1029
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,100
road is required to have

1030
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,100
signage indicating that no

1031
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,100
parking is allowed

1032
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:11,100
for non-emergency vehicles.

1033
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,100
Parking or pulling over

1034
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:13,100
to drop off students at the

1035
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,100
emergency access road is

1036
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,100
prohibited by the signage and

1037
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,100
by the locked gate,

1038
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,100
and these are both shown

1039
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:20,401
on the approved plans.

1040
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,100
Therefore, the commission did

1041
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,100
not require further discussion

1042
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,100
of this matter.

1043
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,100
The third point brought forth

1044
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,100
in the appeal is that the

1045
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,100
commission did not adequately

1046
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,100
discuss prohibiting the

1047
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,100
gymnasium from being used for

1048
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,100
third-party rentals or

1049
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:38,100
additional hourly restrictions

1050
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,100
on the use of the gym.

1051
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:42,100
At the hearings, the neighbors

1052
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,100
requested that the activities

1053
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,100
in the gym be limited

1054
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,100
in various ways.

1055
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,100
Therefore, at the action

1056
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,100
hearing,

1057
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
staff included a condition

1058
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,100
of approval for consideration

1059
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,100
by the commission, and that

1060
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,100
condition stated that there

1061
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,100
would be no third-party rentals

1062
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,100
of the gymnasium.

1063
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,100
The condition was considered

1064
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,100
by the commission

1065
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
at the hearing, and

1066
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,100
after discussion, the

1067
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:09,100
commission deemed the condition

1068
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,100
unnecessary

1069
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,100
for the following reasons.

1070
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100
The commission found that the

1071
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,100
school is not unique

1072
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,100
in its location in a

1073
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,100
single-unit dwelling

1074
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:18,100
neighborhood and that the

1075
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:19,100
applicants submitted

1076
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:20,100
information that showed that

1077
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,100
the majority of public and

1078
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,100
private high schools in the

1079
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,100
surrounding cities were not

1080
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,100
restricted from renting

1081
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,100
to third parties.

1082
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,100
The commission noted that the

1083
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,100
gym was intended to serve the

1084
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,100
existing student population,

1085
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:36,100
which is not to be increased,

1086
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:37,100
and that the gym would

1087
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
primarily be used

1088
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,100
for school activities.

1089
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,100
The commission determined that

1090
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,100
the conditional use permit

1091
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,100
that's in place already limited

1092
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,100
the total number of guests

1093
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,100
on the entire site to 300

1094
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,100
persons, and that this guest

1095
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,100
maximum could continue

1096
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:53,100
to be applied to the site

1097
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,100
whether the guests were using

1098
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,100
the gym, full mansion,

1099
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,100
or were divided

1100
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,100
between the two facilities.

1101
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:01,100
The commission then voted

1102
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:02,100
to approve the project

1103
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,100
with the existing condition of

1104
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,100
approval that limits the number

1105
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,401
of guests to 300 persons.

1106
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:13,100
The fourth issue brought

1107
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,100
forward in the appeal was that

1108
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,100
the commission did not require

1109
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
gym guests to park,

1110
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,100
did not prohibit gym guests

1111
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,100
from parking

1112
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,100
in the neighborhood,

1113
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,100
and that overflow parking

1114
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100
for events was not identified.

1115
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,401
There are conditions existing

1116
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,100
in the conditional use permit

1117
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,100
that address the on-site

1118
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:37,100
parking issue.

1119
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,100
In particular,

1120
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,100
existing condition number 28

1121
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,100
states that the use

1122
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,100
of any facility on the site

1123
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,100
shall have all guest parking

1124
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,100
on site.

1125
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,100
That includes student, staff,

1126
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,100
full mansion guests, Sister

1127
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,100
of Mercy guests,

1128
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,401
and any other facilities.

1129
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,100
The overflow parking for

1130
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,100
Mercy High School was discussed

1131
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,100
in the staff report,

1132
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,100
and it's identified on sheet

1133
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,100
2.1 in the plans,

1134
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,100
which is a little difficult

1135
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
to read on the slide, but it

1136
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100
shows that the eucalyptus,

1137
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,100
lake,

1138
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
and forest lots are available

1139
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,100
for overflow parking

1140
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,100
with a total of 181 additional

1141
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,100
parking spaces.

1142
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
Planning Commission discussed

1143
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,100
that the site had been

1144
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,100
operating

1145
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,100
with these conditions for 14

1146
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:21,100
years, and that Mercy High

1147
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,100
School puts forth significant

1148
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,100
efforts to communicate these

1149
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,100
parking restrictions

1150
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100
to all school families and to

1151
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,100
any guests visiting the site.

1152
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:31,100
The commission deemed

1153
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,100
additional conditions requiring

1154
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:34,100
on-site parking to be

1155
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,100
duplicating the conditions that

1156
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,100
are in place.

1157
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,100
The final issue brought forth

1158
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,100
in the call for review was that

1159
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,100
there was an existing condition

1160
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,100
about shuttles that was

1161
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,100
revised, and that the applicant

1162
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,100
did not have time

1163
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,100
to review the revisions.

1164
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:54,100
The condition

1165
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,100
in question is number 4.

1166
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:57,100
You see it here before you

1167
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,100
on the slide.

1168
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,100
The original wording is

1169
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:01,100
in white, and the revision is

1170
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,100
in yellow.

1171
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,100
The original condition is

1172
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,100
from the 2010 approval,

1173
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,100
and it listed the number of

1174
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,100
shuttles and the seats

1175
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,100
required.

1176
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,100
The city had no complaints

1177
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,100
about the violations

1178
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,100
of this condition during the

1179
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,100
14 years of operation, and

1180
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:18,100
during the hearings,

1181
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,100
the applicant noted that

1182
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,100
Mercy High School now contracts

1183
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,100
with other shuttle services

1184
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,100
to arrange rides

1185
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
for students.

1186
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:27,100
So in order to clarify the

1187
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100
wording of the condition and to

1188
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100
allow the high school more

1189
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
flexibility in how they fulfill

1190
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,100
the condition,

1191
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,100
staff revised the wording

1192
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,100
to try to capture the number of

1193
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,100
required shuttle students as a

1194
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,100
percentage

1195
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:42,100
of the total enrollment.

1196
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,100
That works out to 7% of the

1197
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,100
student population if the

1198
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,401
school is fully enrolled.

1199
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,100
The applicant reviewed the

1200
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
conditions of approval when

1201
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,100
they were published

1202
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
in the staff report prior

1203
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,100
to the action hearing.

1204
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,100
It did not raise concerns.

1205
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,100
The council has four action

1206
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,100
alternatives before them.

1207
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,100
To uphold the Planning

1208
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,100
Commission's approval

1209
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100
of the application, which is

1210
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,100
staff's recommendation.

1211
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:12,100
To deny the application.

1212
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:13,100
To adopt additional conditions

1213
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,100
of approval,

1214
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:16,100
and these conditions may or

1215
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:17,100
may not be related

1216
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,100
to the items listed

1217
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,100
in the call for review.

1218
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:23,100
Or finally,

1219
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,100
to remand the application

1220
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100
to the Planning Commission

1221
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,100
for additional consideration.

1222
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
This concludes my presentation,

1223
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,100
but I'm available

1224
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,100
for questions if you have any.

1225
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:34,100
Thank you,

1226
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:35,100
and I'll ask my colleagues

1227
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:38,100
on the dais for questions.

1228
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,100
There is a part where we have

1229
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:41,100
public comment, so this is

1230
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:42,100
for the council

1231
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,100
to ask questions directly

1232
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:46,100
of staff and the report.

1233
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:48,100
Yes, Councilmember Colson.

1234
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,100
Thank you.

1235
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,100
Thank you, Ms. Levitt,

1236
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,100
for your work on this project.

1237
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:55,100
I appreciate you coming here

1238
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,100
tonight.

1239
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,100
The trail, the path that

1240
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,100
extends along Adeline.

1241
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,401
Is it presently open

1242
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,100
to the public, and

1243
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,100
during the day, 24-7,

1244
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,100
is it locked?

1245
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:14,100
What's the status of that?

1246
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,100
I actually can't answer that

1247
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:16,100
question.

1248
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,100
I'll leave that to the head

1249
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:18,100
of school to answer.

1250
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,100
Okay.

1251
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,100
As I mentioned,

1252
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,100
it's not required.

1253
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100
It was never recorded.

1254
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,100
Right.

1255
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,100
So I never asked for that

1256
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100
information as part of the

1257
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
project review.

1258
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,100
I'm just curious if, I mean,

1259
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,100
you know, a lot of,

1260
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:35,100
I don't think there would be,

1261
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,100
I mean, you know, a public

1262
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,100
school that would be able

1263
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:38,100
to allow people to sort of

1264
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,100
randomly walk onto campus or

1265
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,100
onto their enclosed community.

1266
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,100
So I'm just, I was just kind

1267
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,100
of curious, and they can answer

1268
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
that later when they make their

1269
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
presentation.

1270
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,100
You don't have

1271
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:50,100
to respond now.

1272
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,100
Any other questions

1273
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,100
at this time?

1274
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,100
Yes.

1275
00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:59,100
Yes.

1276
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,100
Council Member Pappajohn.

1277
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:01,100
Yes.

1278
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,100
Can you just give me one minute

1279
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:04,100
here?

1280
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:05,100
Mr. Mayor, I might as well

1281
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:06,100
also, I hadn't really thought

1282
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,100
about it, but because I lived

1283
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,100
at 2616 Hale for over 15 years,

1284
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:12,100
I've had a number

1285
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,100
of neighbors reach out

1286
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,100
to me just to, in just normal

1287
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,401
friendship relations and, you

1288
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,100
know, have chit-chats

1289
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,100
about this,

1290
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:22,100
but nothing formal.

1291
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,100
Okay.

1292
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:24,100
Thank you

1293
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:26,100
for acknowledging that.

1294
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:35,100
Thank you, Ms. Leavitt, for

1295
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,100
your presentation.

1296
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,100
I really appreciate you going

1297
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:39,100
through everything.

1298
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
So I think one

1299
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,100
of the questions I have is

1300
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
about third-party rentals,

1301
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,100
and I was curious as

1302
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,601
to whether, I think there was

1303
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:51,100
a, could you please elaborate

1304
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,100
if there was a study done

1305
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,100
on any impacts

1306
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,100
of additional traffic

1307
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
for that,

1308
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,100
or if there would be any impact

1309
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:05,100
to have third-party rentals or

1310
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:06,100
more people coming

1311
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,100
to the site?

1312
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,100
That study was not done.

1313
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:10,100
The traffic and circulation

1314
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,100
analysis that was submitted

1315
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:13,100
by the applicant and reviewed

1316
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,100
by the city only looked

1317
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,100
at the primaries at the gym,

1318
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,100
which would be after-school

1319
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,100
activities

1320
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,100
during the school year.

1321
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
The things that are now

1322
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
occurring off-site,

1323
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,100
that would now be moving

1324
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,100
on-site, things like dances,

1325
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,401
volleyball games, that sort

1326
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,100
of thing.

1327
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,100
And then the result of that was

1328
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,100
no substantial impact,

1329
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,100
negative impact to the

1330
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,100
surrounding neighborhood.

1331
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,100
Okay.

1332
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,100
Thank you.

1333
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,100
I have a couple questions,

1334
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:50,100
particularly because a lot of

1335
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,100
the conversation and feedback

1336
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:53,100
is centered around parking,

1337
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,100
congestion, what's going

1338
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,100
to happen to the local

1339
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,100
neighborhood streets.

1340
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,100
Was there any discussion

1341
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
in the Planning Commission

1342
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,100
process from a standpoint

1343
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,401
of enforcement, knowing that

1344
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,100
all parking is supposed

1345
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,100
to be contained on-site

1346
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,100
in either the main lot or

1347
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:10,100
in overflows?

1348
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:12,100
And the second would be, was

1349
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:13,100
there any consideration or

1350
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,100
request

1351
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:16,100
from a signage standpoint along

1352
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:17,100
those neighborhoods where there

1353
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,100
would be control of parking,

1354
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:22,100
meaning, you know, it's coming

1355
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:25,100
in for a late volleyball game

1356
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:26,100
and just parking

1357
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:27,100
on the street and then running

1358
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,100
into the school

1359
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,100
to go watch it or play?

1360
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,100
Just curious about that part

1361
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,100
of the conversation.

1362
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,100
So the way this conditional use

1363
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,100
permit has always operated

1364
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:39,100
since it was first approved

1365
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,100
in 2007 and amended in 2010 is

1366
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,100
similar to any other

1367
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,100
conditional use permit

1368
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,100
in the city.

1369
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:48,100
It's enforcement upon

1370
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:49,100
complaint.

1371
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,100
So if we are getting frequent

1372
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,401
complaints of traffic issues

1373
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,100
specifically related

1374
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,100
to the school, then the city

1375
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,100
investigates.

1376
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,601
I think one of the conditions

1377
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,401
of approval that's in,

1378
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,100
I forget which number it is,

1379
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,100
number 29 or 30, requires that

1380
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:12,100
the school operate a 24-hour

1381
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:15,100
hotline so that they're the

1382
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:18,100
first stop for any issues.

1383
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:21,100
So they can call at any time if

1384
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,100
they see that somebody who's

1385
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:24,100
clearly belonging

1386
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,100
to the school parks in the

1387
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,100
neighborhood and then walks

1388
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:29,100
on-site.

1389
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,100
And that should be addressed

1390
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:32,100
first by the school.

1391
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:33,100
If an issue continues and it's

1392
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,100
not being resolved,

1393
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,100
then it comes to the city

1394
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,100
to resolve.

1395
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,100
Thank you.

1396
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,100
Another question?

1397
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:43,100
Thank you.

1398
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
Yes.

1399
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
This triggers a question.

1400
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,401
Currently, in the surrounding

1401
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:49,100
neighborhoods, are there any

1402
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:51,100
residential parking permit

1403
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:52,100
programs that have been

1404
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,401
implemented due to strain

1405
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,100
on the system already?

1406
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:00,100
So we've spoken at length

1407
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:01,100
with the city's traffic

1408
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:03,100
engineer about this.

1409
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,100
And I have to say that,

1410
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,100
in large part,

1411
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,100
that any traffic concerns

1412
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:10,100
in this area in the last 10

1413
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,100
years or so have been dealt

1414
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,100
with by the Traffic Safety and

1415
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,100
Parking Commission, the

1416
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,100
Teaspoon Commission, as they

1417
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:18,100
are with any school, public,

1418
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,100
private.

1419
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,401
So they've explored everything

1420
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:26,401
in every possible option

1421
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,100
in the Teaspoon Commission.

1422
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,100
So what I'm asking, though,

1423
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,100
is there's Hale Drive, Poppy

1424
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,100
Drive, Adeline, Hoover,

1425
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,100
Columbus.

1426
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
Do any of those streets have

1427
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:40,100
current residential parking

1428
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,100
permit programs?

1429
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,100
They do not.

1430
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,100
Again, I think that was

1431
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,401
explored in the Teaspoon

1432
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
Commission, and the

1433
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,100
neighborhood did not have an

1434
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,100
appetite for it.

1435
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,100
Okay.

1436
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:56,601
So they did not support it.

1437
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,100
Yes, Councilmember Thayer.

1438
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,100
Just one question regarding

1439
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,100
noise.

1440
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:04,100
So I don't think there's

1441
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,100
anything

1442
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,100
in the conditional use permit,

1443
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:08,100
but regarding the zoning, is

1444
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,100
there a certain level?

1445
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,100
I think I recall maybe 60

1446
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,100
decibels.

1447
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,100
Yes.

1448
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,401
60 decibels at the nearest

1449
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,100
property line.

1450
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:20,100
So that has been measured in,

1451
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:22,100
there was a noise analysis

1452
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,100
submitted by the applicant

1453
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,100
looking specifically

1454
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,100
at the gym, and the closest

1455
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,100
residential property line was

1456
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:31,100
across the street on Adeline,

1457
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:34,100
somewhere near Poppy, and that

1458
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:35,100
noise analysis showed that they

1459
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,100
would come in occasionally at

1460
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:39,100
50 decibels, so

1461
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:41,100
below the maximum.

1462
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,100
Thank you.

1463
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,100
Another question,

1464
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
Councilmember Pappajohn.

1465
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,100
Thank you, Mayor Stevenson.

1466
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,100
Ms. LeWitt, so the school

1467
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,100
currently rents

1468
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,100
out the facility

1469
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,100
for weddings and other events.

1470
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,100
Could you describe how it would

1471
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:03,100
be similar or different if they

1472
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,100
rent out the gym?

1473
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,100
So they currently rent out, I

1474
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:08,100
believe, Cole Mansion is what

1475
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,100
gets rented out.

1476
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:10,100
Thank you.

1477
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
That is on the Sisters of

1478
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,100
Mercy property.

1479
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:14,100
So the conditions

1480
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,100
of approval that are in place

1481
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,401
for 300 persons maximum applies

1482
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:21,100
not only to the Mercy High

1483
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,401
School campus, Cole Mansion,

1484
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,100
the gym, which would be new,

1485
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:27,100
but it applies to all

1486
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,100
of the events that take place

1487
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,100
on the Sisters of Mercy

1488
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,100
property.

1489
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,601
So any building on that site

1490
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,100
that could be rented that would

1491
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:39,401
be hosting a conference,

1492
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
those are all limited to 300

1493
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:43,100
guests and 50 persons.

1494
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:46,100
Currently they operate

1495
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,100
together, Sisters of Mercy and

1496
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,100
Mercy High School,

1497
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:50,100
to coordinate events.

1498
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,100
My understanding from speaking

1499
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,100
with the head

1500
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:55,100
of school is that, first

1501
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,100
of all,

1502
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,100
they don't typically rent out

1503
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,401
Cole Mansion during school

1504
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100
hours and school operations

1505
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:04,100
because it's being used

1506
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,100
for offices.

1507
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,100
You don't want members

1508
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,100
of the public mixing

1509
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
with your school.

1510
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:11,100
So they don't have a lot of

1511
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,100
conflict now.

1512
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:16,100
I anticipate that would also be

1513
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:17,100
the case when the gym is onsite

1514
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:19,100
operational.

1515
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,100
Thank you.

1516
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:23,100
So just to clarify that it's

1517
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:25,100
300 in aggregate, let's say

1518
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:26,100
there's multiple events going

1519
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,100
on both on Cole Mansion side as

1520
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,100
well as in the new gym,

1521
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:31,100
for example, it's 300

1522
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:33,100
in aggregate.

1523
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,100
Yes.

1524
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:36,100
There is a provision in the

1525
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
zoning code that allows any use

1526
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,100
to apply

1527
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,100
for a temporary use permit

1528
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:43,100
to exceed that.

1529
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:44,100
The school has had two such

1530
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:45,100
events

1531
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,100
in the past year and a half, I

1532
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:49,100
believe, where they had up to

1533
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:50,100
500 persons onsite that were

1534
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:53,601
then shuttled in and we didn't

1535
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:56,100
receive any complaints

1536
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:58,100
during those events.

1537
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,100
Okay, thank you.

1538
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,100
Any other questions

1539
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,100
at this time?

1540
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,100
Okay, thank you very much.

1541
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,100
Now is the time for the

1542
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:09,100
appellant presentation.

1543
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,100
So I'd like to invite Mr.

1544
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,100
Brownrigg to step up

1545
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
to the podium, provide the

1546
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:15,100
evidence regarding the project

1547
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,100
and city clerk,

1548
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,100
please set your timer for 10

1549
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:20,100
minutes once he's.

1550
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:30,100
Okay, good evening, members of `

1551
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:32,100
city council and city staff.

1552
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,100
I stand here as a neighbor and

1553
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:35,100
a property owner.

1554
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:37,100
That said, in 14 years,

1555
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,100
I have never had cause

1556
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:39,100
to appeal an action by a city

1557
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:41,100
commission.

1558
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,100
I have consistently supported

1559
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:44,100
our hardworking commissions and

1560
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:46,100
tried not

1561
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,100
to second guess their work,

1562
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:49,100
but I couldn't do that here.

1563
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,100
In my view, this item

1564
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,100
through no fault of the

1565
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,100
applicants was not handled

1566
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,100
fairly

1567
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:55,100
by the planning commission on

1568
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,100
October 15th.

1569
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:58,100
This is most especially true

1570
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:59,100
for the question

1571
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:00,100
of third party rentals,

1572
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:02,100
where as the staff report says,

1573
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,100
the staff recommended there be

1574
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,100
no third party rentals and

1575
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:07,100
mercy was not requesting any.

1576
00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,100
And yet the planning commission

1577
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:11,100
decided at the end

1578
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:12,100
of a long hearing

1579
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
to not just allow some, but

1580
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,100
to allow any amount of third

1581
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,100
party rentals and didn't allow

1582
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:19,100
the public to comment on this

1583
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:20,100
180 degree turn.

1584
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,100
This is in spite of the fact

1585
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,100
that the city had already

1586
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,100
regulated third party rentals

1587
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:26,100
at Cole mansion for precisely

1588
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,100
the same reason that third

1589
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:29,100
party rentals,

1590
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,100
but an extra strain

1591
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:31,100
on the neighborhood,

1592
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
on its streets and

1593
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
on its quality of life.

1594
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:35,100
So the city didn't ban third

1595
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:36,100
party rentals, but it did set

1596
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,100
specific hard caps.

1597
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,100
And yet the planning commission

1598
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:41,100
didn't go down that road.

1599
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,100
Instead, it simply eliminated

1600
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,100
any limits at all

1601
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,100
without a chance for input.

1602
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,100
And so I appeal

1603
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,401
to allow neighbors and

1604
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:51,100
residents of this city

1605
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:53,100
to provide input

1606
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:54,100
on that decision.

1607
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:55,100
I want to emphasize that this

1608
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,100
is not a case of nimbyism

1609
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:58,100
by the neighborhood.

1610
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:00,100
Not a single neighbor in June

1611
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,100
or in October said mercy should

1612
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,100
not have a gym or that it

1613
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,100
should be built somewhere else.

1614
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,100
Everybody understands the

1615
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,100
importance of this

1616
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:09,100
to mercy and supports it.

1617
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,100
Moreover, every single public

1618
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,100
comment by neighbors praised

1619
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,100
mercy high as a neighbor and

1620
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:15,100
wish the school well and

1621
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:17,100
virtually everyone.

1622
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,100
And certainly I also praised

1623
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:20,100
mercy's current head

1624
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,100
of school, Natalie Brosman, who

1625
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:24,100
has consistently listened and

1626
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:25,100
tried her best to respond

1627
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:27,100
to neighbor concerns.

1628
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,100
She has been a breath

1629
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,100
of fresh air in the

1630
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,100
neighborhood and I thank her

1631
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
on behalf of all

1632
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:32,100
of her neighbors.

1633
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,100
That said, traffic issues are

1634
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:35,100
real and third party rentals

1635
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,100
are optional.

1636
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,100
As we've all learned, the only

1637
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,100
time you can get commercial or

1638
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,100
an institutional entity

1639
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:43,100
to agree to oversight is when

1640
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:44,100
it needs something

1641
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:45,100
from the city.

1642
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:46,100
That's what happened with Cole

1643
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:47,100
mansion.

1644
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:48,100
And so it's now or never

1645
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:49,100
in terms of whether we want

1646
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
to put some limits

1647
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
on third party rentals.

1648
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:53,100
With that, I open the door,

1649
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,100
but I want to hand it over to

1650
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:57,100
Lynn Israel, it to speak

1651
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,100
on behalf of a group

1652
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,100
of neighbors

1653
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:00,100
with her concerns and to

1654
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,100
suggest some simple tweaks that

1655
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:02,100
the council might consider

1656
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,100
adopting.

1657
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
Thank you, Michael.

1658
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,100
Thank you.

1659
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:09,100
Commission commissioners,

1660
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,100
council members,

1661
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:12,100
I'm good evening.

1662
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,100
Let me begin

1663
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:15,100
by stating that all

1664
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:16,100
of the neighbors are supportive

1665
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:18,100
of mercy building a new gym

1666
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:19,100
for their girls.

1667
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:20,100
And we're fully supportive of

1668
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,100
all school sponsored activities

1669
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:22,100
that might occur

1670
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,100
in this gym.

1671
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,100
We've been clear about that.

1672
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:27,100
We've been meeting and working

1673
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:28,100
with mercy

1674
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:30,100
from early stages.

1675
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,100
However, the neighbors do

1676
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,100
object to the renting out

1677
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:35,100
of this new facility for

1678
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,100
outside non school related and

1679
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,100
for profit functions.

1680
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,100
Mercy repeatedly assure the

1681
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,100
neighbors at informational

1682
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:44,100
meetings that they would not be

1683
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,100
renting

1684
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,100
out the gym they intended

1685
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:47,100
to build.

1686
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:48,100
They did not request that

1687
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,100
rentals be permitted

1688
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,100
in their proposal

1689
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:52,100
to the city.

1690
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:53,100
And the city staff analysis to

1691
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,100
the planning commission

1692
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,100
recommended that third party

1693
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:57,100
rentals not be permitted.

1694
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,100
However, at the end of the

1695
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,100
planning commission meeting

1696
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,100
in October, the commissioners

1697
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:06,100
themselves made the decision to

1698
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,100
strike the language preventing

1699
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:10,100
non school rental.

1700
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,100
This was a complete flip from

1701
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,100
the previous planning

1702
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:16,100
commission in June, where each

1703
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,100
and every single commissioner

1704
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,100
said concessions

1705
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:20,100
to the neighbors on operating

1706
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:21,100
hours and rentals was

1707
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:23,100
reasonable and fair.

1708
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,100
The staff report you received

1709
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:28,100
this evening in your materials

1710
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:29,100
doesn't include this discussion

1711
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:30,100
for some reason,

1712
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:32,100
but it is clearly documented

1713
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,100
in the June meeting video.

1714
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:36,100
Frankly, the optics

1715
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:37,100
of fairness were not great

1716
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:39,100
at the October planning

1717
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:41,100
commission meeting as each

1718
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:42,100
commissioner

1719
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:43,100
but one prefaced their comments

1720
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:45,401
by mentioning their sympathies

1721
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:47,100
for Catholic schools financial

1722
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,100
needs, connections to Mercy or

1723
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:51,100
their board, or being alumni

1724
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,100
of Catholic schools themselves.

1725
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:55,100
They did not come

1726
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
across as unbiased,

1727
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,100
neutral decision makers

1728
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:00,100
to the public.

1729
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:01,100
Neighbors are really concerned

1730
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:03,100
about any increase in traffic

1731
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:04,100
on these narrow residential

1732
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,100
streets.

1733
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:07,100
This is a tight area.

1734
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:09,100
There's not even room

1735
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:10,100
for two cars

1736
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:11,100
to pass each other on Alvarado

1737
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,100
and Adeline is narrow and

1738
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,100
twisty road.

1739
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:16,100
There's a well documented

1740
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,100
history of traffic issues here

1741
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,100
already that's required city

1742
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,100
intervention.

1743
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:23,100
Neighbors are unable to get

1744
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:25,100
out of their driveways.

1745
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,100
Their cars are clipped and

1746
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,100
sideswiped and there are daily

1747
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,100
near misses when you're trying

1748
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,100
to pull out

1749
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,100
from side streets onto

1750
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,100
Adeline.

1751
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:34,100
Teaspoon measures were

1752
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:36,100
implemented.

1753
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,100
I'm a member of the Teaspoon

1754
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,100
and just to let you know,

1755
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:40,100
and they have helped but they

1756
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:43,100
in no way decreased the amount

1757
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,100
of traffic itself.

1758
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:48,100
And contrary to the statement

1759
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,100
by the planning commission,

1760
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:51,100
Mercy is indeed located

1761
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:53,100
in a unique site compared to

1762
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,100
all other county high schools.

1763
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,100
Not one other school has only

1764
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:00,100
two lane residential roads as

1765
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,100
the only access streets

1766
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,100
to their property.

1767
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
Other schools were built on

1768
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:07,100
El Camino Real, Murchison,

1769
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:09,100
Carol Ann, Alameda de Los

1770
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,100
Puglis, etc.

1771
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:13,100
And Crystal Springs is the only

1772
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:15,401
other exception to this.

1773
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:20,100
We neighbors are willing to

1774
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,100
accommodate the current impacts

1775
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:23,100
we experience

1776
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,100
with coal mansion rentals

1777
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,100
but not an increase

1778
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:28,100
in rental use of the property

1779
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:31,100
and the resulting traffic that

1780
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:33,100
will further impact our lives.

1781
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,100
Interestingly

1782
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:36,100
in their discussion, planning

1783
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,100
commissioners suggested that

1784
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:40,100
it's the neighbors who should

1785
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:41,100
have to give up something and

1786
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,100
sacrifice in order

1787
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,100
to accommodate Mercy's

1788
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:45,100
increased needs.

1789
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,100
One commissioner even suggested

1790
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:48,100
taking away resident street

1791
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
parking on both Adeline and

1792
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:51,401
Alvarado to allow Mercy's

1793
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
expanded use and to solve the

1794
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:55,401
traffic problems we're facing.

1795
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:57,100
Let me just say that would be

1796
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:59,100
an incredibly unfair and

1797
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,100
unpopular solution.

1798
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,100
People want to understand why a

1799
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
private institution seems to be

1800
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,100
getting preferential treatment

1801
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,100
over the neighbors who live

1802
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:12,100
here, pay Burlingame taxes,

1803
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,100
and vote.

1804
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,100
The neighbors only ask for

1805
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:16,100
earlier end times and no third

1806
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:19,601
party rentals in order to fully

1807
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:22,401
support this gym project.

1808
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:25,100
Neither concession was given.

1809
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,100
We currently have a one-sided

1810
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:28,100
compromise

1811
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:29,100
on the neighbors' parts and at

1812
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:31,100
this point they do not have

1813
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:32,100
faith in the process or feel

1814
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:34,401
that their voices matter.

1815
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,100
So in summary,

1816
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,100
we strongly request a return to

1817
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,100
the original staff

1818
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:42,100
recommendation

1819
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:44,100
of no outside party gym rentals

1820
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:46,100
with coal mansion remaining the

1821
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,100
only rental venue

1822
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:49,100
on the high school campus.

1823
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:50,100
That was what was originally

1824
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:52,100
agreed upon

1825
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:53,100
between the neighbors and

1826
00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:55,100
Mercy High School.

1827
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:56,100
We think that's fair to all

1828
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,100
parties and we feel that this

1829
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,100
is the decision council should

1830
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,100
make tonight.

1831
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,100
However, if you decide to allow

1832
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,100
some non-school related gym

1833
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,100
rentals, we believe there

1834
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:10,100
should be limits

1835
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:12,100
in place just as there are

1836
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:13,100
for coal mansion rentals.

1837
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,100
After all, it's one thing

1838
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:16,100
for neighbors to put up

1839
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,100
with traffic

1840
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,100
from students and athletes, but

1841
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,100
it's not right that we should

1842
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,401
also have to deal

1843
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,100
with more traffic

1844
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:25,100
from third party rentals.

1845
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,100
There are many ways such limits

1846
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:28,100
could be designed.

1847
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:29,100
Mercy gym rentals

1848
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,100
to third parties could count

1849
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:32,100
against the coal limits of 125

1850
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,100
events per year

1851
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,100
for outside use.

1852
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:38,100
Mercy rentals to third parties

1853
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:39,100
could be required

1854
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,100
to end earlier, for instance

1855
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:43,100
at 8 p.m. rather than 10 p.m.

1856
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:45,100
to minimize disturbances to the

1857
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:47,100
surrounding neighborhood.

1858
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:49,100
And Mercy rentals could be

1859
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:50,100
limited to the summertime when

1860
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,100
school is not in session.

1861
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,100
These changes could reduce the

1862
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:57,100
negative impact of rentals

1863
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,100
on our neighborhoods

1864
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,100
without impairing Mercy

1865
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:02,100
students' use and enjoyment

1866
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,100
of their new gym, especially

1867
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,100
since Mercy didn't even request

1868
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,100
these rights.

1869
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,100
Overall, we have a great

1870
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:12,100
relationship, as you've heard,

1871
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:13,100
with Mercy, unlike what you see

1872
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:14,100
surrounding Sara Castilleja

1873
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,100
in Palo Alto, for example,

1874
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,200
and we'd like

1875
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,200
to keep it that way.

1876
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,200
We think these simple

1877
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,200
constraints will create a

1878
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,200
reasonable balance

1879
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,200
for everybody.

1880
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,200
And thank you

1881
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,200
for your attention.

1882
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Thank you, Mr. Brownrigg and

1883
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Ms. Israeli.

1884
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,200
If you could remain up,

1885
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,200
now is the time

1886
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,200
for my councilmembers

1887
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,200
to address questions of you,

1888
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,200
so I'll open it up.

1889
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Councilmember Pappajohn?

1890
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,200
I don't have any questions

1891
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,200
right now.

1892
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,200
Okay.

1893
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,200
My thoughts.

1894
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Thank you.

1895
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,200
Any questions?

1896
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,200
Councilmember Thayer?

1897
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,200
Councilmember Colson?

1898
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,200
I do have a question related

1899
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,200
to this, but I'm, I think it's

1900
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,200
probably better addressed

1901
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,200
by the applicant.

1902
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,200
So, but there'll be a chance

1903
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,200
for rebuttal.

1904
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,602
But I, I'm curious, maybe just

1905
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,200
from the,

1906
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,200
from the appellant perspective,

1907
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,200
the 125 limitation on Cole

1908
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,200
Mansion and what has been the

1909
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,200
experience in terms

1910
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,200
of the neighborhood?

1911
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,200
I am happy to speak to that.

1912
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,200
Although 125 rentals is the cap

1913
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200
for Cole Mansion per year,

1914
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,200
in actuality, it's far fewer

1915
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,200
events than that because let's

1916
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,200
face it, Cole Mansion costs

1917
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,200
$15,000 a French.

1918
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,200
And you know, weddings tend

1919
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,200
to occur solely

1920
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,200
on the weekends.

1921
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,200
So I'm sure Mercy could

1922
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,200
probably tell you exactly how

1923
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,200
many times per year it's

1924
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,200
rented.

1925
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,200
But currently we can handle the

1926
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,200
number

1927
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,200
of events that occur there,

1928
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,200
but it's not 125.

1929
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Okay, thank you.

1930
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,200
I think that's it.

1931
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,200
And we'll have the applicant

1932
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,200
come up now and give their

1933
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,200
evidence.

1934
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,402
And we'll then go

1935
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,200
into public comments

1936
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,200
after that.

1937
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,200
Thank you.

1938
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,200
Hello, thank you

1939
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,200
for allowing me

1940
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,200
to be here this evening.

1941
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,200
My name is Natalie Serigliano

1942
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,200
Brosnan and I am the head of

1943
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,200
School of Mercy High School and

1944
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,200
a proud alum and a proud former

1945
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,200
resident of Burlingame.

1946
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,200
I was born and raised in

1947
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,200
Burlingame.

1948
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,200
So I'm very grateful

1949
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,200
for all you do to keep the city

1950
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,200
that raised me what it was.

1951
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,200
Before anything, I don't think

1952
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,200
that we can stress enough as a

1953
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,200
community, our desire

1954
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,200
to partner

1955
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,200
with our neighbors.

1956
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,200
We very much have come to value

1957
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,200
the neighbor relationships and

1958
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,200
I'm grateful that this project

1959
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,200
and this process has given us

1960
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,200
tremendous opportunity

1961
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,200
to know our neighbors like

1962
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,200
those that just talked and a

1963
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,200
number

1964
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:05,200
of other neighbors that we see

1965
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,200
in the crowd.

1966
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,200
And that is something that is

1967
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,200
incredibly, thank you,

1968
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,200
important,

1969
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,200
incredibly important to us and

1970
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,200
to our board

1971
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,200
of directors as we continue

1972
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,200
to plan for Mercy's future and

1973
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,200
the expectations and

1974
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,200
maintaining those relationships

1975
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,200
with our neighbors.

1976
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,200
We are really excited that we

1977
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,200
are at this point to build a

1978
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,200
state-of-the-art facility for

1979
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,200
our young women and we are very

1980
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,200
grateful for the support

1981
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,200
from our neighbors.

1982
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,200
We know that neighbors have

1983
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,200
concerns,

1984
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,200
but we do feel their support in

1985
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,200
building a gym and recognizing

1986
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
that our young women deserve a

1987
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,200
gym and we are incredibly

1988
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,200
grateful for that.

1989
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,200
You know, I just bring this

1990
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,200
picture because I think it's so

1991
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,200
important for us

1992
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,200
to acknowledge that

1993
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,200
in the city's history,

1994
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,200
six years

1995
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,200
after it was incorporated,

1996
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,200
Mercy, the Cole Mansion was

1997
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,200
built and the Cole Mansion has

1998
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
had a significant presence

1999
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200
in the Mercy community

2000
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,200
through the Cole Mansion,

2001
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,200
through Sisters of Mercy,

2002
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,200
through Mercy High School.

2003
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,200
It is this incredible piece

2004
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,200
of our history in Burlingame

2005
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,200
and we are grateful

2006
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,200
to have this opportunity

2007
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,200
to speak

2008
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,200
of how we ensure the future

2009
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,200
of Mercy High School at this

2010
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,200
property.

2011
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,200
I know this was already shown,

2012
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,200
but I just feel it's important

2013
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,200
to acknowledge that we are the

2014
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,200
island in the acreage there,

2015
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,200
the smaller area,

2016
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,200
and I do just want a correction

2017
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,200
to Ms. Leavitt, Cole Mansion is

2018
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,200
on Mercy High School property.

2019
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,200
It is not on Sisters of Mercy

2020
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,200
property and I just want to

2021
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,200
acknowledge that we can only

2022
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,200
speak for what is

2023
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,200
within our property, not

2024
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,200
on the Sisters of Mercy

2025
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,200
property.

2026
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,200
I know that in our commission

2027
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,200
meetings, we were able

2028
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,200
to express the need

2029
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,200
for a gymnasium and I don't

2030
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,200
want to go over all this,

2031
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200
but I just feel the need to

2032
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,200
remind us that we are here

2033
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,402
because a 94-year-old school

2034
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,200
for young women does not have a

2035
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,200
gym and we are the only high

2036
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,200
school in the Archdiocese of

2037
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,200
San Francisco and the Diocese

2038
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,200
of Santa Rosa, Oakland, and

2039
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,200
San Jose without a gym and our

2040
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,200
young women deserve equitable

2041
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,200
facilities and this has been

2042
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,200
decades in the making and it is

2043
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,200
something that is crucial to

2044
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,200
Mercy's future.

2045
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,200
All girls' education is

2046
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,200
absolutely imperative and it is

2047
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,200
something that I believe we

2048
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,200
should be proud that we have

2049
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,200
in the city of Burlingame.

2050
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,200
Very few cities have all girls'

2051
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,200
education offerings.

2052
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,200
The city of San Francisco

2053
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,200
in the 1950s alone had 14 all

2054
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,200
girls' schools and only two

2055
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,200
exist today, two that serve

2056
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,200
very different socioeconomic

2057
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,200
groups which leaves Mercy

2058
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,200
High School as the closest all

2059
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,200
girls' opportunity

2060
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,200
for many young women north of

2061
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,200
us and that is something that

2062
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,200
is incredibly important.

2063
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Again, these are just some

2064
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,200
renderings of what we plan.

2065
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,200
And then I'll jump right

2066
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,200
into the appeal and

2067
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,200
before going into that, I know

2068
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,200
that it was addressed formally

2069
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,200
by Lynn and Michael that there

2070
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,200
is a concern that the

2071
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,200
Planning Commission felt

2072
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,200
like it was biased

2073
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,200
in its decisions

2074
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,200
in acknowledging Catholic

2075
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:02,200
education, talking about our

2076
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,200
local community and I just have

2077
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,200
to say that I do believe that

2078
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,200
the decisions were unbiased and

2079
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,200
it has nothing to do

2080
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,200
with the fact that Mercy High

2081
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,200
School had decisions made that

2082
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,200
were positive for the future

2083
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,200
of the school but truly the

2084
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,200
fact that we brought a number

2085
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,200
of data points and we felt that

2086
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,200
the commission made database

2087
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,200
decisions that we were able

2088
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,200
to show based on the concerns

2089
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,200
that had been brought forward.

2090
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,200
So I know the pedestrian

2091
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,200
walkway path protection is

2092
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,200
something that our neighbors

2093
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,200
truly want.

2094
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,200
We love the beauty

2095
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,200
of our neighborhood.

2096
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,200
Neighbors frequent the pathway

2097
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,200
and we cannot speak

2098
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,200
for this.

2099
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,200
The majority of the pathway is

2100
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,200
on property but

2101
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,200
from a legal standpoint,

2102
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,200
a safety standpoint,

2103
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,200
we always need to be able

2104
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,200
to maintain control of access

2105
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,200
to that pathway but there is

2106
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,200
of course no desire

2107
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,200
to disrupt the beauty

2108
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,200
of our campus.

2109
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,200
That's something we care just

2110
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,200
as much

2111
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,402
about as anybody else.

2112
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,200
The emergency road access has

2113
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,200
already been addressed in the

2114
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,200
Planning Commission documents.

2115
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,200
This will be a locked gate.

2116
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,200
This was required by the Fire

2117
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,200
Department.

2118
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,200
There is no plan

2119
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,200
for any neighbors,

2120
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,200
pedestrians or employees

2121
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,200
to have access

2122
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,200
to this parking.

2123
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,200
It will be a locked gate.

2124
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Third party rentals and I do

2125
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,200
believe that this is

2126
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,200
at the heart of concern from

2127
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,200
our neighbors and so I can't

2128
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,200
stress enough that first and

2129
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,200
foremost, the gym is

2130
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,200
about the high school.

2131
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,200
Our young women need access

2132
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,200
to a gymnasium.

2133
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,200
We need a home of Mercy High

2134
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,200
School in the form

2135
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,200
of a gymnasium.

2136
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,200
We have always historically

2137
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,200
held a deep desire to support

2138
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200
our community and we have never

2139
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,200
had a lack of transparency

2140
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,200
for this.

2141
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:49,200
Over the years, we have

2142
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,200
supported our community

2143
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,200
in a number of ways.

2144
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,200
Burlingame Aquatic Center has

2145
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,200
regularly used our pool when

2146
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,200
the community center was being

2147
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,200
built.

2148
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,200
The rec center asked if they

2149
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:02,200
could have activities held in

2150
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,200
those years so that there

2151
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,200
wouldn't be a loss

2152
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,200
to the programming available

2153
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,200
by the city of Burlingame.

2154
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,200
We supported that.

2155
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,200
There's times when our local

2156
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:12,200
schools, public and Catholic

2157
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,200
reach out to us

2158
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,200
for last minute support.

2159
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,200
We always want the ability

2160
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,200
to offer support to our local

2161
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,200
community and that's the heart

2162
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,200
of where we are.

2163
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,200
I understand that yes,

2164
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,200
we never talked about having

2165
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,200
rentals and there's not this

2166
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,200
huge request to have rentals

2167
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,200
but there is a desire to

2168
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,200
support our local community and

2169
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,200
now that it has been brought

2170
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,200
forward about the ability

2171
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,200
to have rentals,

2172
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,200
to have it taken away,

2173
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,200
it's difficult

2174
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,200
to say it's okay,

2175
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,200
take that away because again,

2176
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,200
as a community

2177
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,200
for young women,

2178
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,200
our young women are watching.

2179
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,200
Our young women are very aware

2180
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,200
of what is going on with our

2181
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,200
project and our plans and to

2182
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,200
stand here and say that we are

2183
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,200
okay not being treated as all

2184
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,200
the other schools would be a

2185
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,200
disservice to our young women

2186
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,200
and the message that they are

2187
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,200
receiving in that.

2188
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,200
So that is why we are moving

2189
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,200
forward with this conversation

2190
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,402
regarding third party rentals.

2191
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,200
We have heard a number of fears

2192
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,200
that the gym could be used

2193
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,200
for a number of activities such

2194
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,402
as regular crash events

2195
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,200
in the crab, crab events

2196
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,402
in the gym, different

2197
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,200
fundraisers,

2198
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,200
major outside events.

2199
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,200
We have navigated rentals

2200
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,200
for decades through Cole

2201
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,200
Mansion and to the best

2202
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,200
of our knowledge, we have not

2203
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,200
had major issues or ongoing

2204
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,200
issues.

2205
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,200
To Ms. Leavitt's point,

2206
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,200
we had two events

2207
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,200
over the last year and a half

2208
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,200
of 500 people and we did not

2209
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,200
receive any concern

2210
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,200
from either of those.

2211
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,200
In looking

2212
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,200
at the third party rentals, I

2213
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,200
think it's really important

2214
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,200
that we pause and acknowledge

2215
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,200
that the Cole Mansion revenue

2216
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,200
is critical to Mercy High

2217
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,402
School's success and survival,

2218
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,200
quite frankly.

2219
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,200
Cole Mansion revenue goes

2220
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,200
directly into the school's

2221
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,200
operating budget.

2222
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200
I know that there is a concern

2223
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,200
that we would use the gym

2224
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,200
for a number of events.

2225
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,200
That is not on the docket

2226
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,200
at all for the school.

2227
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,200
One, we wanna maintain a gym

2228
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,200
that's taken 94 years

2229
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,200
to get.

2230
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,200
All of our fundraisers have

2231
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,200
already been done on campus and

2232
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,200
that won't change anything.

2233
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,602
And to potentially rent out a

2234
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,200
gym space when we could be

2235
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,200
renting out the Cole Mansion

2236
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,200
for tens of thousand dollars

2237
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,200
more would be a horrible

2238
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,200
financial decision for the

2239
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,200
school and really should help

2240
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,200
to appease the neighbors that

2241
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,200
there is no desire or plans

2242
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,200
to significantly rent

2243
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,200
out the gym.

2244
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,200
Our hope and our goal has

2245
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,200
always been about supporting

2246
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,200
our local community as needs

2247
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,200
arise and looking at how we can

2248
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,402
be a community member.

2249
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:48,200
I also feel it's important

2250
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,200
to acknowledge with the Cole

2251
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,200
Mansion rentals,

2252
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,200
and we've stated this a number

2253
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
of times and we continue

2254
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,200
to share, the Cole Mansion

2255
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,200
rentals will never be able

2256
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
to access the gym.

2257
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,200
We don't want them

2258
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,200
in two different facilities.

2259
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,200
The Cole Mansion is for 300

2260
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,402
in the Cole Mansion.

2261
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,200
So as I said earlier,

2262
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,200
it's the hope that Mercy High

2263
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,200
School's gym usage will be

2264
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,200
in line with all the gym usage

2265
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,200
in the Burlingame schools.

2266
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,200
From the best

2267
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:14,200
of our knowledge,

2268
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:15,200
we have seen that a number

2269
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,200
of schools have no restrictions

2270
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,200
on them.

2271
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,200
And we would like to be able to

2272
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,200
know that we are being treated

2273
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,200
the exact same as all other

2274
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,200
schools in our community,

2275
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200
including our private schools

2276
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,402
with our public schools.

2277
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,200
I just wanna acknowledge that

2278
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,200
the shuttle usage has come up.

2279
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,200
We are required, so in the blue

2280
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,602
is the previous writing that we

2281
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,200
had in our CUP up

2282
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,200
until recently, that we offer

2283
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,200
at minimum three shuttle routes

2284
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,200
to the high school and

2285
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,200
after school shuttles to the

2286
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,200
Millbrae Caltrain BART.

2287
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,200
We more than exceed this,

2288
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,200
and we have for many years,

2289
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,200
and that should be a sign

2290
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:54,200
of our commitment to this.

2291
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,200
We offer nine private shuttles

2292
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,200
on top of what we pay into

2293
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,200
with the city,

2294
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,200
and currently 10% of our

2295
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,402
student body use shuttles.

2296
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,200
I just wanna confirm I have 48

2297
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,200
seconds left.

2298
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,200
Is that true?

2299
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,200
Traffic has been an ongoing

2300
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,200
issue.

2301
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,200
I would just like to call

2302
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,200
out that we are one

2303
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,200
of four schools within less

2304
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,200
than one mile range, and

2305
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,200
within five miles proximity

2306
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,200
to 12 schools in Burlingame.

2307
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200
I agree with the neighbors that

2308
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,200
we have a number

2309
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,200
of traffic issues.

2310
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,200
We have wanted

2311
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,200
to support traffic.

2312
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,200
We are part

2313
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,200
of the calming measures

2314
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,200
with the neighbors, with the

2315
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,200
traffic committee that did come

2316
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,200
up that we would potentially

2317
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,200
could have one-way parking or

2318
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,200
permanent parking.

2319
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,200
That was something that was

2320
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,200
brought up to explore,

2321
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:38,200
but the neighbors didn't

2322
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,200
like it, and we wanted to

2323
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,200
support the neighbors.

2324
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,200
I also know that parking spaces

2325
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,200
have been a concern.

2326
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,200
This is new data

2327
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,200
from the month of January.

2328
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,200
These are the amount

2329
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,200
of cars actually

2330
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,200
in our parking spots,

2331
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,200
in our parking lots.

2332
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,402
Thank you very much.

2333
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,200
Thank you.

2334
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,200
So now I'm gonna ask colleagues

2335
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,200
on the dais

2336
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,200
for any questions.

2337
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,402
Yes, Council Member Colson.

2338
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:10,200
Thank you.

2339
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,200
Thank you very much, Ms.

2340
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Brosnan, for coming today.

2341
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,200
So as I understand it,

2342
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,200
generally Catholic schools do

2343
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,200
not have activities on

2344
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,200
Sundays.

2345
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,200
So is that the main day that

2346
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,200
you're thinking if you did

2347
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,200
rentals, they would be to rent

2348
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,200
out on Sunday?

2349
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,200
Yeah, Catholic schools do not

2350
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,200
have any events on Sunday.

2351
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,200
That's something that has

2352
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,200
always been

2353
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,200
in place and will continue

2354
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,200
to be in place.

2355
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,200
Again, I think the main focus

2356
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,200
of potential rentals would have

2357
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,200
to do with is there a community

2358
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,200
need that we can support?

2359
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:47,200
If there is a wedding on a

2360
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,200
Sunday schedule, there's no way

2361
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,602
that we could plan a Sunday

2362
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,200
rental.

2363
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,200
And when I'm talking rental,

2364
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,200
my understanding from talking

2365
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,200
to neighbors is they believe

2366
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,200
that rentals could be hundreds

2367
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,200
of people on our campus,

2368
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,200
not a team of 10 kids from a

2369
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,200
local school that needed a last

2370
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,402
minute gym facility usage.

2371
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,200
But again, for Colemansion

2372
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,200
Revenue, we would not ever be

2373
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,200
looking to rent

2374
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,200
out a gym months in advance

2375
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,200
because a few hundred dollars

2376
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,200
could limit our ability

2377
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,200
to bring in a few thousand, 10

2378
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,200
to 17,000.

2379
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,200
So I guess I would ask then,

2380
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,200
you anticipate that when you

2381
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,200
rent out the gym,

2382
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,200
it would mainly be for

2383
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,200
basketball or volleyball or

2384
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,200
sports related activities.

2385
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,200
We all know in this city,

2386
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,200
there is an immense amount

2387
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,200
of pressure.

2388
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,200
When we were building our

2389
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,200
community center,

2390
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,200
there was one

2391
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,200
of the number one things,

2392
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,200
we need a gym, we need a gym,

2393
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,200
we need a gym.

2394
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,200
I've heard constantly,

2395
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,200
we need a gym

2396
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,200
in this community.

2397
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,200
So for example, with that gym

2398
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,602
on Sundays, if it were rented,

2399
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,200
be available for, one of the

2400
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,402
rental opportunities would be

2401
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,402
local youth basketball teams

2402
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,200
and organizations.

2403
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,200
Yes.

2404
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,200
Okay, and volleyball,

2405
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,200
I take it too?

2406
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,200
And volleyball.

2407
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,200
I'm guessing you can serve

2408
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:13,200
volleyball, basketball,

2409
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,200
maybe indoor futsal or

2410
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,200
something like that.

2411
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,602
So do you anticipate that it

2412
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,200
would be for, say

2413
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,200
for example, parties or things

2414
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,200
like that in there?

2415
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,200
No.

2416
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:24,200
No, so it would really be

2417
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,200
limited to the same exact use

2418
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,200
that it has for the girls?

2419
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:30,200
Yes.

2420
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,200
The only time I could think

2421
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,200
of a party off the top

2422
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,200
of my head, again,

2423
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,200
it's all been

2424
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,200
about the local community.

2425
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,200
If OLA, if BIS, they have a

2426
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,200
facility that floods right

2427
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,200
before graduation and they say,

2428
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,200
can we use your gym in order

2429
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,200
to have a graduation event

2430
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,200
with parents and kids?

2431
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,200
Again, as a community member,

2432
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,200
I always think we lean

2433
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,200
into that and we try

2434
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,200
to build community with one

2435
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,200
another and support each other.

2436
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,200
Thank you.

2437
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,200
And do, are there other sports

2438
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
on campus that are not able

2439
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,200
to be played that have

2440
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:02,200
to be played

2441
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,200
off campus right now?

2442
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,200
Other sports?

2443
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,200
Yes, every sport is played

2444
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,200
off campus at this point.

2445
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,200
Our pool isn't regulation.

2446
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,200
We do practice water polo,

2447
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,200
but we have to play

2448
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:13,200
off campus.

2449
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,200
So the gym would allow

2450
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,200
volleyball, basketball, some

2451
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,200
cheer, dance, and gymnastics

2452
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,200
to stay on campus.

2453
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,200
Thank you.

2454
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:24,200
Yes, Council Member

2455
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Pappajohn.

2456
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Thank you, Mayor.

2457
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,200
Thank you for your

2458
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,200
presentation.

2459
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,200
I just wanted to kind

2460
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,200
of continue

2461
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,200
on the conversation with

2462
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,200
Council Member Colson.

2463
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,200
And so what I am understanding

2464
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,200
is that the gym would really,

2465
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,200
rentals would be for sports,

2466
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,200
unless you wanted to lean in

2467
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,200
to a community that needed it

2468
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,200
for an organization that needed

2469
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,200
it for event.

2470
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,200
So could you just elaborate

2471
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,200
again on then how you would

2472
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,200
incentivize, or how you would

2473
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,200
have the community rent the

2474
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Cole Mansion and then not the

2475
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,200
gym, because obviously it makes

2476
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,200
so much more financial sense

2477
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,200
to do that.

2478
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Could you just repeat that part

2479
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,200
for me, please?

2480
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,200
Yes, so typically we leave the

2481
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,200
Cole Mansion open for rentals

2482
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,200
throughout the year.

2483
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,200
Some people are planning

2484
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,200
weddings 18 months

2485
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,200
in advance.

2486
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:18,200
Some people are calling two

2487
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,200
months in advance or a month

2488
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,200
in advance for a celebration

2489
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,200
of life.

2490
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,200
And so to try to rent

2491
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,200
out the gym months in advance

2492
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:25,200
for a major event would just,

2493
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,200
again, be poor judgment

2494
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,200
on our part.

2495
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,200
And that is something we would

2496
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,200
never do because it limits our

2497
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,200
ability to bring

2498
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,200
in more money.

2499
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,200
If there is, and there's a

2500
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,200
balance, a delicate balance

2501
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,200
to running an event venue,

2502
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,200
especially for weddings,

2503
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,200
when people want the best day

2504
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,200
of their life.

2505
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,200
For example, and we put this

2506
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,200
in our meeting notes

2507
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,200
with the commission,

2508
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,200
let's say we had a wedding plan

2509
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,200
for 200, 300 people and we

2510
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,200
happened to get to the CCS

2511
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,200
semifinals and we got home

2512
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,200
court advantage.

2513
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,200
Weddings don't want kids

2514
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,200
in uniforms walking

2515
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,200
in and out.

2516
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,200
They don't want a bunch

2517
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,200
of high school students.

2518
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:04,200
So even having a gym, we

2519
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:05,200
recognize there might be times

2520
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,200
where we still have to rent

2521
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,200
another facility or we have

2522
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:08,200
to think twice of, do we have

2523
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,200
to shuttle people

2524
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,200
in and out?

2525
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,200
So it's a very delicate rentals

2526
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,200
that we have been doing

2527
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,200
for decades and we continue

2528
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,200
to give that same care to the

2529
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,200
way we would balance any gym

2530
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,200
rental requests.

2531
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,200
Again, the gym rental

2532
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,402
for me allows us

2533
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,402
to support the community.

2534
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:32,200
Thank you.

2535
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,200
Any other questions?

2536
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,200
Yes.

2537
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,200
Yeah, so I did have a question.

2538
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,200
So I think

2539
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,200
in the conditional use permit,

2540
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,200
it does mention summer school

2541
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,200
and sports camp.

2542
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,200
Currently, there's some

2543
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,200
restrictions on that as far as

2544
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,200
how many participants and the

2545
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,200
time of day.

2546
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,200
Do those types of activities

2547
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,200
happen now and would any

2548
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:49,200
of those happen in the gym

2549
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,200
in the future?

2550
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,200
Yes, they do happen now and

2551
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,200
they will continue to happen

2552
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,200
in the future in the gym and

2553
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,200
the gym can only support the

2554
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,200
growth of Mercy High School,

2555
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,200
which is something I believe is

2556
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,200
important

2557
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200
to us as a city as well.

2558
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,200
Because right now,

2559
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,200
for instance, some

2560
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,200
of our programming is

2561
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,200
on campus and then we have

2562
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,200
to rent gyms for volleyball,

2563
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:10,200
basketball,

2564
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,200
camps or conditioning.

2565
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,200
And so we're taking students

2566
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,200
and potential people that wanna

2567
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,200
learn about Mercy off

2568
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,200
of our campus.

2569
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,200
So it wouldn't change anything

2570
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,200
in the numbers in the CUP.

2571
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,200
It would just, again, ensure

2572
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,200
that we have students coming

2573
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,200
onto our campus and have the

2574
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,200
facilities to keep them indoors

2575
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,200
and reduce the noise.

2576
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,200
Yeah, because I did notice the

2577
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:29,200
time limits on those are

2578
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,200
Monday through Friday, 8.15

2579
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,200
to 3.15 p.m.

2580
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,200
So those are very strict

2581
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,200
limits.

2582
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,200
So even if you did do third

2583
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,200
party rentals,

2584
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,200
I think it would probably have

2585
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:39,200
to fall

2586
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:40,200
under these guidelines.

2587
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,200
So those are the guidelines

2588
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,200
for summer camp.

2589
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,200
So those aren't the guidelines,

2590
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,200
like the Cole Mansion, we can

2591
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,200
rent until 11 p.m.

2592
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,200
So I would just, and I think

2593
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,200
that's where this conversation

2594
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,200
originally came from when

2595
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,200
neighbors were hoping that we

2596
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,200
would limit gym usage to 8.30

2597
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,200
p.m.

2598
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,200
We did our research comparing

2599
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,200
to other schools and we

2600
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,200
recognize that that would be

2601
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,200
holding Mercy

2602
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,200
to a very different standard

2603
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:04,200
of all

2604
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:05,200
of their schools being able

2605
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,200
to use their gym.

2606
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:07,200
And that by saying you can

2607
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:08,200
leave the gym at 8.30, you have

2608
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,200
to leave the gym at 8.30,

2609
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,200
but you can go hang out

2610
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,200
in the Cole Mansion until 11

2611
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,200
p.m.

2612
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,200
There was a huge discrepancy

2613
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,200
there.

2614
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,200
So yes, I agree that there's

2615
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,200
the summer camp and that is

2616
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,200
something that we always uphold

2617
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,200
every year.

2618
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,200
And quite frankly,

2619
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,200
in the summer,

2620
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:23,200
we don't wanna be at Mercy

2621
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,200
late.

2622
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,200
We want our time to rest.

2623
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,200
But in terms of

2624
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,200
during the school year,

2625
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,200
that point in the CUP, I don't

2626
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,200
think applies right now.

2627
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,200
And then the other question I

2628
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,200
had is, so the conditional use

2629
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,200
permit also requires you

2630
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,200
to have a public calendar

2631
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,200
of any of the events at Cole

2632
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,200
Mansion or otherwise.

2633
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,200
And I assume that would apply

2634
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,200
to the gymnasium as well.

2635
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,200
Is that something you would

2636
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,200
plan to do for the events?

2637
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,200
Yeah, so our calendar is

2638
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,200
public.

2639
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
So we have our school calendar,

2640
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,200
we have a shared calendar

2641
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,200
with the sisters.

2642
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,200
Our athletic calendar would

2643
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,200
also be available.

2644
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,200
So neighbors would know when

2645
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,200
there's home games and not.

2646
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,200
And if there were any

2647
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:01,200
additional events specific

2648
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,602
to the gym, like for example,

2649
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,200
BIS needed, all

2650
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,200
of their teams went to the

2651
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,200
championship and needed an

2652
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,200
extra two hours of practice.

2653
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,200
We could add that into our

2654
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,200
Cole Mansion calendar somehow,

2655
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,200
the larger link outside

2656
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,200
of the school calendar.

2657
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,200
Thank you.

2658
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,200
This may seem a little weird,

2659
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,200
and I know you're not fully

2660
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,200
into design and production yet,

2661
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,200
but what type of materials has

2662
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,200
the school talked about

2663
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,200
for noise prevention

2664
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,200
in that gym?

2665
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:33,200
You're right,

2666
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,200
that is not my specialty.

2667
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:36,200
But what I do know is we

2668
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,200
specifically design it

2669
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,200
to have a lobby

2670
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:40,200
before you would go

2671
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,200
into the main doors

2672
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,200
of the gym.

2673
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,200
And that lobby from previous

2674
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,200
conversations that I know our

2675
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,200
architects spoke to at the

2676
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,200
commission meeting would

2677
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,200
maintain the noise inside.

2678
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,200
And so actually the gym brings

2679
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,200
noise.

2680
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,200
Like for right now, we have

2681
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:57,200
rallies outdoors.

2682
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,200
And as you can imagine, 400

2683
01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,200
girls yelling can get noisy.

2684
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,200
All that will be brought

2685
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,200
inside.

2686
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,200
So there are different pieces

2687
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,200
where we'll actually decrease

2688
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,200
the noise that our community

2689
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,200
members have been used to.

2690
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,200
Thank you.

2691
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,200
And our architects are here if

2692
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,200
you want more specific details

2693
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,200
about that.

2694
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,200
Any other questions?

2695
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,200
Okay, thank you very much.

2696
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,200
Thank you.

2697
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,200
Stay tuned, we have rebuttal

2698
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,200
section coming.

2699
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,200
So just as a reminder,

2700
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,200
this is the time for public

2701
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,200
comment and I'll go ahead and

2702
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,200
we're gonna limit it to two

2703
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,200
minutes and we'll go ahead and

2704
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,200
open that.

2705
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,200
I do have a special request

2706
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,200
though.

2707
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,200
We have somebody who needs

2708
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,200
to come and go.

2709
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,200
And so we're gonna invite Mr.

2710
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200
Collins up first.

2711
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,200
Is Mr. Collins here?

2712
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,200
And I'm opening public comment.

2713
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,200
Go ahead.

2714
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:56,200
Thank you.

2715
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,200
My name is Michael Collins.

2716
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,200
I live at 2405 Adeline Drive.

2717
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,200
I'm directly across the street

2718
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,602
from where the gym is proposed.

2719
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:06,200
I fully support Mercy High

2720
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,200
School's need

2721
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,200
for a gym.

2722
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,200
I think it's ideal for their

2723
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,200
long-term success that they

2724
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,200
have a gym that's state

2725
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,200
of the art.

2726
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,200
And I do believe they need to

2727
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,200
improve and enhance their pool.

2728
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,200
I'm a big believer

2729
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,200
in the importance

2730
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,200
of high school athletics,

2731
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,200
particularly

2732
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,200
with young women.

2733
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,200
Lynn Israelet, myself, met

2734
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,200
with the principal

2735
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,200
in the spring of 2024 where she

2736
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,402
outlined and articulated the

2737
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,200
needs, the uses, the timing,

2738
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,402
the parking, the traffic

2739
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,200
controls, et cetera,

2740
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,200
all associated

2741
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,200
with this gym.

2742
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,200
It was a thoughtful,

2743
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,200
well-organized presentation.

2744
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,200
Lynn and I both supported the

2745
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,200
need for the gym and we

2746
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,200
supported what they were

2747
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,200
proposing.

2748
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,200
That began a very collaborative

2749
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,402
and transparent process between

2750
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,200
the neighbors and the gym,

2751
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,200
between the neighbors and the

2752
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,200
school.

2753
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,200
There were instances where

2754
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,200
concerns were raised

2755
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,200
by neighbors, we were able

2756
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,200
to work with the school and

2757
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,200
achieve common ground.

2758
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,200
I'm here before you because I

2759
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,200
feel as though the Planning

2760
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,200
Commission is doing a

2761
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,200
disservice.

2762
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,200
This was a collaborative

2763
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,200
effort.

2764
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,200
There's a lot of projects that

2765
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,200
are large

2766
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:27,200
in scale where the committee,

2767
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,402
the council wants cooperation

2768
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,200
between the developer and the

2769
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,200
neighbors.

2770
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,200
We had that, we had an

2771
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,200
agreement,

2772
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,200
and unilaterally the Planning

2773
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,200
Commission changed what was

2774
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,200
agreed upon.

2775
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:42,200
And I think that's just not

2776
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,200
fair and I think that's bad

2777
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,200
business for the city of

2778
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,200
Burlingame.

2779
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,200
And I'd suggest that we rethink

2780
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,200
that process.

2781
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,200
And again, I support the gym, I

2782
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,200
just don't support these last

2783
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,200
minute changes that weren't

2784
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,200
agreed upon.

2785
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:58,200
Thank you for your time.

2786
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,200
Thank you.

2787
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,200
Stephen.

2788
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Oh.

2789
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,200
We generally ask no clapping

2790
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,200
in the audience

2791
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,200
after each public speaker.

2792
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,200
So I appreciate if you could

2793
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,200
adhere to that.

2794
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200
Thanks for the reminder.

2795
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,200
There's a bunch

2796
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,200
of yellow cards.

2797
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,200
If you plan

2798
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:24,200
to speak and you haven't filled

2799
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,200
out a yellow card,

2800
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,200
please do so.

2801
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,200
They're in the back

2802
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:28,200
of the room.

2803
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:29,200
You can hand them

2804
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,200
to our city clerk.

2805
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,200
But I'm gonna go

2806
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,200
in random order.

2807
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,200
And so the first is gonna be

2808
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,200
Sharon Coleman.

2809
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:46,200
Try to keep it to two minutes.

2810
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:47,200
I practiced and got it

2811
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,200
under three.

2812
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,200
The focus and my concern is

2813
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,200
on the third party rentals.

2814
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,200
From the October meeting

2815
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,200
minutes, the head

2816
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,200
of the school confirms, I want

2817
01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,200
to reiterate that there is no

2818
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,200
plan to rent the gymnasium.

2819
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,200
That's page 19.

2820
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:03,200
The fact is the school is not

2821
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,200
advocating for third party

2822
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,200
rentals and the city of

2823
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,200
Burlingame recommended no third

2824
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,200
party rentals.

2825
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,200
What the commission granted is

2826
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:13,200
out of the norm for private

2827
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,200
schools.

2828
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,200
I know we're hearing opposite,

2829
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,200
but my kids went to Crystal,

2830
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,200
Nueva, and Menlo.

2831
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,200
I spoke with the head

2832
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:20,200
of facility operations at

2833
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,402
Nueva, who confirms school

2834
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:24,200
activities can be scheduled

2835
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,200
until 10, but they rarely have

2836
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,200
them past eight or nine.

2837
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,200
There are no third party

2838
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,200
rentals, only partnerships,

2839
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,200
like when the use of a CSM pool

2840
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:33,200
is needed.

2841
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:34,200
I spoke with the director

2842
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,200
of operations at Crystal and

2843
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,200
confirmed their CUP states no

2844
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,200
school on campus activities

2845
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,200
at all.

2846
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:43,200
The commission showed lack

2847
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,200
of knowledge, expertise,

2848
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,200
and energy on how

2849
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,402
to craft the wording

2850
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:50,200
for the parameters

2851
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:51,200
around the use of the gym.

2852
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,200
When the commissioners could

2853
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,200
not figure out how

2854
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,200
to word the existing

2855
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,200
partnership between Mercy and

2856
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,200
the Burlingame Aquatic

2857
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,200
Center's use of the pool,

2858
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,200
one commissioner said, strike

2859
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,200
out this language and not have

2860
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,200
the restriction as part

2861
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,200
of this approval.

2862
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,200
Another said, I would be happy

2863
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,200
to remove that.

2864
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,200
It seems like an extra ball and

2865
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,200
chain.

2866
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,200
Page 38, a commissioner said,

2867
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,200
my concern is restricting

2868
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,200
Mercy from making money.

2869
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,200
Personally, I want

2870
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,200
to strike it out.

2871
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,200
So I ask, is it the planning's

2872
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:20,200
commission responsibility

2873
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,200
to find sources of income

2874
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,200
for private institutions?

2875
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,200
Lack of knowing how

2876
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,200
to word a partnership led to

2877
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:29,200
removing wording that gave full

2878
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,200
rein to renting the space

2879
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,200
for profit.

2880
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,200
So the planning commission

2881
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,200
showed bias towards Mercy in

2882
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,200
this way and discounted the

2883
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,200
neighbors' reasonable requests

2884
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,200
throughout the process.

2885
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,200
So after a very long meeting,

2886
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,200
the commissioners came

2887
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,200
to the swift and frankly,

2888
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,200
fatigued conclusion.

2889
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,200
They were tired, to give Mercy

2890
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,200
carte blanche.

2891
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:51,200
Thank you for recognizing.

2892
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,200
Thank you, Ms. Coleman.

2893
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,200
Holly Daly.

2894
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,200
Thank you.

2895
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,200
I live on Poppy, so I hear the

2896
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,200
rallies and my car has been

2897
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,200
sideswiped and there are times

2898
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,200
that I detour

2899
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,200
around when it's pick up or

2900
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,200
drop off time

2901
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,200
at the high school.

2902
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:16,200
Happy to have the school there,

2903
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:20,200
happy to have a gym, but I feel

2904
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,200
that the material presented

2905
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,200
tonight has been not

2906
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,200
necessarily fact-based.

2907
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,200
I think Sharin brought up a few

2908
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,200
facts to share

2909
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,200
with the group.

2910
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,200
And I feel that

2911
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,200
in the interest

2912
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:34,200
of clarity is kindness,

2913
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,200
there's an opportunity

2914
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,200
to really carve out

2915
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,200
in the wording the usage, the

2916
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:41,200
times, and reach agreement.

2917
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:42,300
I think there's an opportunity

2918
01:27:42,300 --> 01:27:43,300
here for a win-win.

2919
01:27:43,300 --> 01:27:45,300
It seems like there've been

2920
01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:47,300
some proposals put forward

2921
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:48,300
for consideration, and I hope

2922
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:50,300
that we can work something

2923
01:27:50,300 --> 01:27:52,300
out that benefits everybody.

2924
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:54,300
Thanks.

2925
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:56,300
Thank you, Ms. Daly.

2926
01:27:56,300 --> 01:27:58,300
Chris Denton.

2927
01:28:06,300 --> 01:28:07,300
Thank you, council members

2928
01:28:07,300 --> 01:28:08,300
for the opportunity

2929
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:09,300
to speak.

2930
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:11,300
I'm a parent of a 2023 graduate

2931
01:28:11,300 --> 01:28:12,300
of Mercy and also a board

2932
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:14,300
member.

2933
01:28:14,300 --> 01:28:16,300
And I would like to admit that

2934
01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:18,300
I've never been

2935
01:28:18,300 --> 01:28:19,300
to an athletic event at Mercy

2936
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:21,300
High School.

2937
01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:22,300
I've never been to an event

2938
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:24,300
there that had the opportunity

2939
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:25,300
for the whole school

2940
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:26,300
to gather.

2941
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:28,300
So I have been to Sarah,

2942
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:30,300
Burlingame High, Mills

2943
01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:32,300
for similar events,

2944
01:28:32,300 --> 01:28:34,300
which is kind of sad.

2945
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:36,300
So I'm glad that the question

2946
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:37,300
isn't whether or not Mercy

2947
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:39,300
deserves this opportunity.

2948
01:28:40,300 --> 01:28:43,300
So I'm glad that's not

2949
01:28:43,300 --> 01:28:44,300
in question.

2950
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:46,300
So I appreciate that as well.

2951
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:48,300
Having been to many events at

2952
01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:50,300
Mercy with the Cole Mansion

2953
01:28:50,300 --> 01:28:52,300
for other events,

2954
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:54,300
and I've mentioned I've been

2955
01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,300
to the other schools,

2956
01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:58,300
I've always found the

2957
01:28:58,300 --> 01:29:00,300
opportunity, there's always

2958
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:02,300
parking, there's always the

2959
01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:03,300
events.

2960
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:04,300
I'm surprised at the

2961
01:29:04,300 --> 01:29:05,300
spaciousness of Mercy compared

2962
01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:07,300
to, for example, when you go

2963
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:08,300
to Sarah, it's

2964
01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:09,300
on the school streets, it's

2965
01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:11,300
Burlingame, even though it has

2966
01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:13,300
access on El Camino, there are

2967
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:14,300
still limitations.

2968
01:29:14,300 --> 01:29:16,300
And I just feel that Mercy does

2969
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:18,403
have the facilities available

2970
01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:21,300
and you have an example

2971
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:22,300
of a partner

2972
01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,300
for many years that has proven

2973
01:29:24,300 --> 01:29:26,300
to use that wisely and

2974
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:27,300
cooperated

2975
01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:29,300
with the community.

2976
01:29:29,300 --> 01:29:33,300
So I think as to the questions

2977
01:29:33,300 --> 01:29:35,300
of putting additional

2978
01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:37,300
conditions, I think you just

2979
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:38,300
have an opportunity with the

2980
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:40,300
community that has addressed

2981
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:42,300
those.

2982
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:43,300
One other concern as a board

2983
01:29:43,300 --> 01:29:45,300
member too, one particular

2984
01:29:45,300 --> 01:29:46,300
point is the safety

2985
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:48,300
of the community is one

2986
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:50,300
of my major concerns.

2987
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:51,300
And as far as the condition

2988
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:53,300
about a public walkway,

2989
01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:55,300
I do have concerns about that

2990
01:29:55,300 --> 01:29:57,300
because I think our utmost

2991
01:29:57,300 --> 01:29:58,300
responsibility is to be able

2992
01:29:58,300 --> 01:29:59,300
to ensure the safety

2993
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:01,300
of our students and

2994
01:30:01,300 --> 01:30:02,300
to have no restrictions

2995
01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:04,300
on that type of act.

2996
01:30:04,300 --> 01:30:05,300
Thank you.

2997
01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:07,300
Thank you, Mr. Denton.

2998
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:09,300
Ginny Wright.

2999
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:17,300
Good evening.

3000
01:30:17,300 --> 01:30:18,300
Thanks for the opportunity

3001
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:19,300
to speak and thank you for your

3002
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:21,300
community service.

3003
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:22,300
I'm Ginny Wright.

3004
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:23,300
My family and I have lived in

3005
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:25,300
Burlingame since 1983.

3006
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:27,300
We lived in our current house

3007
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:29,300
on Adeline since 1988.

3008
01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:31,300
In addition to my career

3009
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:32,300
in finance, I volunteered as a

3010
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:33,300
board member and treasurer

3011
01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:35,300
for a number

3012
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:36,300
of local nonprofits.

3013
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:38,300
Including Burlingame Community

3014
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:39,300
for Education, Burlingame

3015
01:30:39,300 --> 01:30:40,300
High School Parents Group and

3016
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:42,300
Burlingame Aquatic Club.

3017
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:43,300
We raised our two daughters

3018
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:45,300
in Burlingame and sports were

3019
01:30:45,300 --> 01:30:47,403
important in their lives.

3020
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:49,300
With that experience,

3021
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:50,300
I support Mercy's goal to

3022
01:30:50,300 --> 01:30:51,300
provide quality sports

3023
01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:54,300
facilities on their campus and

3024
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:55,300
I support this gym

3025
01:30:55,300 --> 01:30:57,300
for their students.

3026
01:30:57,300 --> 01:30:59,300
However, the conditional use

3027
01:30:59,300 --> 01:31:02,300
permit as currently drafted is

3028
01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:04,300
very open-ended.

3029
01:31:04,300 --> 01:31:06,300
It would allow activities,

3030
01:31:06,300 --> 01:31:08,403
rentals, till 10 o'clock many

3031
01:31:09,300 --> 01:31:11,300
nights, 11 o'clock other

3032
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:13,403
nights, 365 days a year.

3033
01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:17,300
Administrations

3034
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:19,300
in the school come and go.

3035
01:31:19,300 --> 01:31:22,300
It may not be Natalie's intent

3036
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:24,300
to rent this now for profit or

3037
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:25,300
to rent it very many nights a

3038
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:27,300
week, but there's nothing in

3039
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:29,300
this documentation that would

3040
01:31:29,300 --> 01:31:32,300
prevent the next person coming

3041
01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:33,300
in to really change that

3042
01:31:33,300 --> 01:31:35,300
policy.

3043
01:31:35,300 --> 01:31:36,300
I would like the council to

3044
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:38,300
consider approving the facility

3045
01:31:38,300 --> 01:31:40,300
for use by the school, but not

3046
01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:41,300
for commercial rentals.

3047
01:31:41,300 --> 01:31:42,300
Thank you

3048
01:31:42,300 --> 01:31:44,300
for your consideration.

3049
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:46,300
Thank you, Ms. Ring.

3050
01:31:46,300 --> 01:31:48,403
Tom Wooten or Wooten?

3051
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:52,300
I hope I didn't mess that up.

3052
01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:55,300
What is your last name again?

3053
01:31:55,300 --> 01:31:56,300
My name is Tom Wooten.

3054
01:31:56,300 --> 01:31:57,300
Wooten, okay.

3055
01:31:57,300 --> 01:31:58,300
I'd like to thank the council

3056
01:31:58,300 --> 01:31:59,300
for allowing me

3057
01:31:59,300 --> 01:32:00,300
to speak and I also like

3058
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:01,300
to thank the neighbors

3059
01:32:01,300 --> 01:32:03,300
for their continued support

3060
01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:04,300
of Mercy High School.

3061
01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:05,300
As I said, my name is Tom

3062
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:07,300
Wooten.

3063
01:32:08,300 --> 01:32:10,300
I'm a 20, 24, 25 year teacher

3064
01:32:10,300 --> 01:32:12,300
at Mercy High School and a

3065
01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:14,300
former coach

3066
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:16,300
in particular basketball.

3067
01:32:16,300 --> 01:32:17,300
I'd like to talk a little bit

3068
01:32:17,300 --> 01:32:20,300
about my own experience as a

3069
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:22,300
basketball coach of having

3070
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:23,300
to drive 20 minutes to get

3071
01:32:23,300 --> 01:32:26,300
to a gym from a closed down

3072
01:32:26,300 --> 01:32:29,300
high school so that we could

3073
01:32:29,300 --> 01:32:31,300
practice or our girls would

3074
01:32:31,300 --> 01:32:34,300
have a space to play.

3075
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:36,300
I'd like to talk about some

3076
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:38,300
of our students not being able

3077
01:32:38,300 --> 01:32:40,403
to practice or having

3078
01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:44,603
to do cardio in the cafeteria

3079
01:32:46,300 --> 01:32:47,300
because there is no gym space

3080
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:49,300
for us.

3081
01:32:49,300 --> 01:32:52,300
And I'd like to comment that

3082
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:55,300
since gym space is extremely

3083
01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:58,300
needed for five, six sports,

3084
01:33:00,300 --> 01:33:03,300
they would be very difficult if

3085
01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:06,300
not impossible to give much

3086
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:07,300
of that time

3087
01:33:07,300 --> 01:33:08,300
to any other third party.

3088
01:33:08,300 --> 01:33:09,300
Thank you.

3089
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:11,403
Thank you, Mr. Wooten.

3090
01:33:17,300 --> 01:33:20,300
I'm gonna mess this up.

3091
01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:22,300
Tasella Gawler, Gawler?

3092
01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:26,300
Rebecca, okay, sorry.

3093
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:27,300
It was filled

3094
01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:28,300
out quickly.

3095
01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:30,300
I apologize.

3096
01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:31,300
So thank you so much

3097
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:32,300
for the time,

3098
01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:33,300
everyone.

3099
01:33:33,300 --> 01:33:34,300
I come here with two different

3100
01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:36,300
hats on.

3101
01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:37,300
I am a Burlingame resident and

3102
01:33:37,300 --> 01:33:38,300
I have for the last over 10

3103
01:33:38,300 --> 01:33:41,300
years lived within two blocks

3104
01:33:41,300 --> 01:33:42,300
of Mercy.

3105
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:43,300
And at no point in any of that

3106
01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:44,300
time have I ever experienced

3107
01:33:44,300 --> 01:33:46,300
bad traffic due to the Mercy

3108
01:33:46,300 --> 01:33:47,300
girls.

3109
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:48,300
We have many schools.

3110
01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:49,300
We have Lincoln.

3111
01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:50,300
We have Hoover.

3112
01:33:50,300 --> 01:33:52,300
And I would say to see people

3113
01:33:52,300 --> 01:33:53,300
in the car, it tends

3114
01:33:53,300 --> 01:33:54,300
to be the other folks,

3115
01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:55,300
but I'll just leave that

3116
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:57,300
to our imaginations.

3117
01:33:57,300 --> 01:33:59,300
And I have now a house that

3118
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:00,300
backs up onto Hillside Drive

3119
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:01,300
at the corner of Newton across

3120
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:03,300
from the fire station.

3121
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:04,300
So I know when it's hard

3122
01:34:04,300 --> 01:34:05,300
to get out of my driveway.

3123
01:34:05,300 --> 01:34:07,300
And I will say I'm always

3124
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:08,300
impressed by the young women

3125
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:09,300
that are driving themselves

3126
01:34:09,300 --> 01:34:11,300
to school.

3127
01:34:11,300 --> 01:34:12,300
But also more importantly,

3128
01:34:12,300 --> 01:34:13,300
I think Burlingame needs

3129
01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:14,300
to support all of our schools

3130
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:15,300
to thrive.

3131
01:34:15,300 --> 01:34:17,300
It only improves our community

3132
01:34:17,300 --> 01:34:19,300
for everyone in it.

3133
01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:20,300
And Mercy has been waiting way

3134
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:22,300
too long

3135
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:25,403
for this athletic building.

3136
01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:28,300
My daughter attended Mercy

3137
01:34:28,300 --> 01:34:30,300
Public High Schools as well as

3138
01:34:30,300 --> 01:34:32,300
Mercy, excuse me, Burlingame

3139
01:34:32,300 --> 01:34:33,300
Public High Schools, as well as

3140
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:34,300
Mercy High School.

3141
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:36,300
And so I've seen both parts

3142
01:34:36,300 --> 01:34:37,300
of the wonder of our community

3143
01:34:37,300 --> 01:34:38,300
and the great educations we

3144
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:39,300
provide.

3145
01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:41,300
And Mercy education for my

3146
01:34:41,300 --> 01:34:42,300
daughter was extraordinary.

3147
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:45,300
And I am always impressed with

3148
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:47,300
the care and service they give

3149
01:34:47,300 --> 01:34:48,300
to the surrounding communities

3150
01:34:48,300 --> 01:34:49,300
as well as the girls on their

3151
01:34:49,300 --> 01:34:50,300
campus.

3152
01:34:50,300 --> 01:34:51,300
I think we all know how

3153
01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:53,300
important it is to provide

3154
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:54,300
young women opportunities

3155
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:55,300
for sports.

3156
01:34:55,300 --> 01:34:57,300
I think we see, and Natalie and

3157
01:34:57,300 --> 01:34:59,300
the leadership team, and while

3158
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:00,300
I agree we don't know what's

3159
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:01,300
gonna happen with future

3160
01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:03,300
administrations and leadership

3161
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:05,300
in the school, I think Mercy

3162
01:35:05,300 --> 01:35:06,300
throughout the years has always

3163
01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:08,300
proven to be a very trustworthy

3164
01:35:08,300 --> 01:35:09,300
partner.

3165
01:35:09,300 --> 01:35:11,300
And to Mr. Wooten's point,

3166
01:35:11,300 --> 01:35:13,300
I can't conceive of a time when

3167
01:35:13,300 --> 01:35:14,300
they'd really wanna rent

3168
01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:15,300
out that train after hours.

3169
01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:17,300
They have such vast need

3170
01:35:17,300 --> 01:35:18,300
for it and

3171
01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:19,300
for the student body and the

3172
01:35:19,300 --> 01:35:21,300
Mercy school community.

3173
01:35:21,300 --> 01:35:22,300
I think it's sort

3174
01:35:22,300 --> 01:35:23,300
of a false concern.

3175
01:35:23,300 --> 01:35:26,300
So I guess the other thing is

3176
01:35:26,300 --> 01:35:28,300
that I just think we need

3177
01:35:28,300 --> 01:35:30,300
to think about equity in our

3178
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:31,300
schools and giving everybody a

3179
01:35:31,300 --> 01:35:32,300
chance.

3180
01:35:32,300 --> 01:35:33,300
So I'll just end it there,

3181
01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:34,300
but thank you.

3182
01:35:34,300 --> 01:35:36,300
Thank you, Ms. Coleman.

3183
01:35:36,300 --> 01:35:38,300
Isis Ordaz.

3184
01:35:43,300 --> 01:35:44,300
Good evening, my name is Isis

3185
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:46,300
Ordaz and I'm currently a

3186
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:47,300
senior at Mercy

3187
01:35:47,300 --> 01:35:48,300
on a merit scholarship.

3188
01:35:48,300 --> 01:35:49,300
As a student body president,

3189
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:50,300
I'm here

3190
01:35:50,300 --> 01:35:51,300
to ask the city council

3191
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:52,300
to support the Planning

3192
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:53,300
Commission's decision

3193
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:54,300
to allow us

3194
01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:55,300
to build a gymnasium on our

3195
01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:56,300
campus.

3196
01:35:56,300 --> 01:35:57,300
A gym would absolutely

3197
01:35:57,300 --> 01:35:58,300
transform student activities

3198
01:35:58,300 --> 01:35:59,300
and Athletics at Mercy.

3199
01:35:59,300 --> 01:36:01,300
Not only would we be able

3200
01:36:01,300 --> 01:36:03,300
to host our own home games,

3201
01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:04,300
we could have indoor pep

3202
01:36:04,300 --> 01:36:06,300
rallies with court games and

3203
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:07,300
designated places to start our

3204
01:36:07,300 --> 01:36:08,300
own championship banners,

3205
01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:09,300
trophies, and rings.

3206
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:11,300
A gymnasium would be pivotal

3207
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:13,403
for our athletics program.

3208
01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:16,300
As a varsity volleyball player,

3209
01:36:16,300 --> 01:36:18,300
I personally know the

3210
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:19,300
difficulty that comes

3211
01:36:19,300 --> 01:36:20,300
with having to utilize our

3212
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:21,300
brother school's gym as our

3213
01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:22,300
home court.

3214
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:23,300
When we decorate for Dig Pink

3215
01:36:23,300 --> 01:36:24,300
or Senior Night, there is

3216
01:36:24,300 --> 01:36:25,300
absolutely no indication

3217
01:36:25,300 --> 01:36:28,300
of it being Mercy's home court.

3218
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:29,300
The walls and ceiling are

3219
01:36:29,300 --> 01:36:31,300
crowded with Sarah's classic S

3220
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:32,300
logo in blue and gold

3221
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:34,300
with the names of Sarah's

3222
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:35,300
student athletes

3223
01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:36,300
on banners and plaques.

3224
01:36:36,300 --> 01:36:37,300
This year, Mercy Volleyball

3225
01:36:37,300 --> 01:36:39,300
went undefeated in league,

3226
01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:40,300
finishing as WBAL champions,

3227
01:36:40,300 --> 01:36:41,300
and even made it to CIF

3228
01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:43,403
Division I NorCal playoffs.

3229
01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:45,300
If we were Sarah or a co-ed

3230
01:36:45,300 --> 01:36:47,300
school in the area, our

3231
01:36:47,300 --> 01:36:48,300
achievements would be honored

3232
01:36:48,300 --> 01:36:50,300
with a glass case and blue and

3233
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:52,300
white fabric banners,

3234
01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:53,300
but instead,

3235
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:54,300
our awards are held

3236
01:36:54,300 --> 01:36:55,300
in storage collecting desks.

3237
01:36:55,300 --> 01:36:56,300
Having our own gym would allow

3238
01:36:56,300 --> 01:36:58,300
all athletic programs

3239
01:36:58,300 --> 01:36:59,300
to exhibit school records,

3240
01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:00,300
accomplishments, and awards.

3241
01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:02,300
Our students would be able

3242
01:37:02,300 --> 01:37:03,300
to play

3243
01:37:03,300 --> 01:37:04,300
in an environment indicative

3244
01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:05,300
of their school, showcasing

3245
01:37:05,300 --> 01:37:06,300
their strengths and admirable

3246
01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:07,300
athletic abilities.

3247
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:09,300
With a genuine heart,

3248
01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:10,300
I deeply implore you to

3249
01:37:10,300 --> 01:37:11,300
consider the conditions that

3250
01:37:11,300 --> 01:37:12,300
other schools have in regards

3251
01:37:12,300 --> 01:37:14,300
to their gym usage.

3252
01:37:14,300 --> 01:37:15,300
I am kindly asking

3253
01:37:15,300 --> 01:37:16,300
for equity,

3254
01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:17,300
and if any conditions are

3255
01:37:17,300 --> 01:37:18,300
placed on our gym,

3256
01:37:18,300 --> 01:37:19,300
I'd hope that they remain

3257
01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:20,300
in line with those

3258
01:37:20,300 --> 01:37:21,300
of all boys and co-ed schools

3259
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:23,300
in the area.

3260
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:24,300
I'd also like to assure the

3261
01:37:24,300 --> 01:37:26,300
city council and our neighbors

3262
01:37:26,300 --> 01:37:27,300
that Mercy High School has a

3263
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:28,300
longstanding reputation of

3264
01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:29,300
responsibility and

3265
01:37:29,300 --> 01:37:30,300
respectfulness in terms

3266
01:37:30,300 --> 01:37:32,300
of community events.

3267
01:37:33,300 --> 01:37:34,300
If anything is off limits due

3268
01:37:34,300 --> 01:37:35,300
to Cole Mansion rentals or the

3269
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:36,300
Music at Cole Mansion program,

3270
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:37,300
there's always an announcement

3271
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:39,300
so that events may take place

3272
01:37:39,300 --> 01:37:40,300
without student interruption.

3273
01:37:40,300 --> 01:37:42,300
I recognize the concern of

3274
01:37:42,300 --> 01:37:44,300
maintaining a quiet

3275
01:37:44,300 --> 01:37:45,300
neighborhood.

3276
01:37:45,300 --> 01:37:46,300
Thank you for your time and

3277
01:37:46,300 --> 01:37:48,300
consideration.

3278
01:37:48,300 --> 01:37:50,300
Thank you, Ms. Harden.

3279
01:37:50,300 --> 01:37:52,300
Nels DeLander.

3280
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:01,300
Good evening, Mayor, city

3281
01:38:01,300 --> 01:38:02,300
council members,

3282
01:38:02,300 --> 01:38:03,300
and city staff.

3283
01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:04,300
My name is Nels DeLander, and

3284
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:05,300
I'm a representative of

3285
01:38:05,300 --> 01:38:06,300
Carver's Local 213 that covers

3286
01:38:06,300 --> 01:38:08,300
San Mateo County.

3287
01:38:09,300 --> 01:38:10,300
We're in full support of

3288
01:38:10,300 --> 01:38:12,300
Mercy High School new athletic

3289
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:14,300
center and swimming pool.

3290
01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:15,300
This project will be built by

3291
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:16,300
Carver's signatory union

3292
01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:18,300
contractor that supports a

3293
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:20,403
state credit training program,

3294
01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:23,300
pays area standard wages,

3295
01:38:23,300 --> 01:38:24,300
and has access

3296
01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:25,300
to medical coverage

3297
01:38:25,300 --> 01:38:28,300
for workers and their families.

3298
01:38:28,300 --> 01:38:29,300
By doing so, the workers and

3299
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:30,300
their families do not need

3300
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:31,300
to depend on county medical

3301
01:38:31,300 --> 01:38:32,300
facilities funded

3302
01:38:32,300 --> 01:38:34,300
by taxpaying dollars.

3303
01:38:35,300 --> 01:38:37,300
This project is not only

3304
01:38:37,300 --> 01:38:39,300
to support workers, but gives

3305
01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:40,300
local workers the opportunity

3306
01:38:40,300 --> 01:38:41,300
to work

3307
01:38:41,300 --> 01:38:42,300
in their own community.

3308
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:43,300
By doing so,

3309
01:38:43,300 --> 01:38:44,300
it helps businesses in

3310
01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:45,300
Burlingame

3311
01:38:45,300 --> 01:38:46,300
by knowing that the funds in

3312
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:47,300
this project will be spent

3313
01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:48,300
locally in helping the economy

3314
01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:49,300
of Burlingame.

3315
01:38:49,300 --> 01:38:51,300
This project will not only help

3316
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:52,300
the local economy, the

3317
01:38:52,300 --> 01:38:54,300
workforce, but

3318
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:55,300
by approving this project,

3319
01:38:55,300 --> 01:38:56,300
you're giving students a new

3320
01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:57,300
facility and pool

3321
01:38:57,300 --> 01:38:58,300
to be excited

3322
01:38:58,300 --> 01:39:00,300
about that promotes exercise

3323
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:01,300
for the future of generation

3324
01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:02,300
of Burlingame children.

3325
01:39:02,300 --> 01:39:04,300
Carver's Local 217 is full

3326
01:39:04,300 --> 01:39:06,403
support of the project.

3327
01:39:07,300 --> 01:39:09,300
Thank you for your time.

3328
01:39:09,300 --> 01:39:10,300
Thank you, Mr. DeLander.

3329
01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:12,300
Brian Lee.

3330
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:28,300
I wanna read something

3331
01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:30,300
from my sister.

3332
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:32,300
I was raised on Benito Avenue

3333
01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:33,300
and walked to Mercy every day

3334
01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:35,300
during high school.

3335
01:39:35,300 --> 01:39:36,300
As a land use planner for

3336
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:37,300
over 40 years in both the

3337
01:39:37,300 --> 01:39:39,300
private and public sectors, I

3338
01:39:39,300 --> 01:39:40,300
was shocked when the city

3339
01:39:40,300 --> 01:39:42,300
decided to change the master

3340
01:39:42,300 --> 01:39:43,300
plan requirement

3341
01:39:43,300 --> 01:39:45,300
for the entire 40 acres prior

3342
01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:47,300
to any redevelopment,

3343
01:39:47,300 --> 01:39:48,300
including the gym.

3344
01:39:48,300 --> 01:39:51,300
This was done by determining

3345
01:39:51,300 --> 01:39:52,300
that the project is not a reuse

3346
01:39:52,300 --> 01:39:54,300
repurposing of the site and

3347
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,300
does not require a master plan

3348
01:39:56,300 --> 01:39:59,300
application and how it is not

3349
01:39:59,300 --> 01:40:01,300
as a mystery to me.

3350
01:40:01,300 --> 01:40:03,300
Now the property is being

3351
01:40:03,300 --> 01:40:05,300
developed piecemeal.

3352
01:40:05,300 --> 01:40:07,300
The gym project uses existing

3353
01:40:07,300 --> 01:40:09,300
onsite roads and parking lots

3354
01:40:09,300 --> 01:40:10,300
over the entire 40 acres to

3355
01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:13,300
meet the access and parking

3356
01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:14,300
requirements

3357
01:40:14,300 --> 01:40:15,300
for the gym redevelopment.

3358
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:17,300
How will these same roads and

3359
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:18,300
parking lots be used when the

3360
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:20,300
sisters figure out what

3361
01:40:20,300 --> 01:40:21,300
development they want?

3362
01:40:21,300 --> 01:40:23,300
There are already several uses

3363
01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:25,300
at Mercy, Cole Mansion, the

3364
01:40:25,300 --> 01:40:27,300
high school, the Mercy

3365
01:40:27,300 --> 01:40:28,300
Center, Marion Oaks,

3366
01:40:28,300 --> 01:40:30,403
Montessori, Convent Mass, et

3367
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:32,300
cetera, and now a gym center

3368
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:34,403
that can be rented.

3369
01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:36,300
There's valid concern

3370
01:40:36,300 --> 01:40:38,300
for overflow parking.

3371
01:40:39,300 --> 01:40:41,403
An MOU seems logical

3372
01:40:42,300 --> 01:40:43,300
since the memorandum

3373
01:40:43,300 --> 01:40:44,300
of understanding is an

3374
01:40:44,300 --> 01:40:46,300
agreement between the parties

3375
01:40:46,300 --> 01:40:48,300
that outlines their intentions,

3376
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:49,300
roles, and expectations.

3377
01:40:49,300 --> 01:40:51,300
How will overflow parking work?

3378
01:40:51,300 --> 01:40:52,300
It is difficult now that the

3379
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:53,300
property has been allowed

3380
01:40:53,300 --> 01:40:55,300
to develop piecemeal.

3381
01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:58,300
The MOU must clearly address

3382
01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:00,300
how overflow parking will be

3383
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:01,300
accommodated onsite.

3384
01:41:01,300 --> 01:41:04,300
Also, the new poppy emergency

3385
01:41:04,300 --> 01:41:06,300
only access must be fenced,

3386
01:41:06,300 --> 01:41:08,300
gated,

3387
01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:10,300
and signed so there's no

3388
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:11,300
pedestrian, vehicular,

3389
01:41:11,300 --> 01:41:13,300
or staff access.

3390
01:41:13,300 --> 01:41:14,300
Please do not allow any more

3391
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:16,300
piecemeal development

3392
01:41:16,300 --> 01:41:17,300
of this beautiful property.

3393
01:41:17,300 --> 01:41:19,403
Thank you, Marsha Lee.

3394
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:22,300
Thank you.

3395
01:41:22,300 --> 01:41:24,403
Thank you, Mr. Lee.

3396
01:41:26,300 --> 01:41:28,300
Jeb Gibney.

3397
01:41:34,300 --> 01:41:36,300
I'm Jeb Gibney, I live at 1473

3398
01:41:36,300 --> 01:41:37,300
Alvarado.

3399
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:38,300
Thank the mayor and

3400
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:39,300
councilmembers.

3401
01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:41,300
My main concern is the game

3402
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:43,300
plan seems

3403
01:41:43,300 --> 01:41:44,300
to have been changed

3404
01:41:44,300 --> 01:41:46,300
without further consultation

3405
01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:48,300
with the citizens.

3406
01:41:49,300 --> 01:41:50,300
The primary concern is the

3407
01:41:50,300 --> 01:41:53,603
traffic and the noise and time

3408
01:41:55,300 --> 01:41:57,300
limits.

3409
01:41:57,300 --> 01:41:58,300
I tend to get up

3410
01:41:58,300 --> 01:41:59,300
at six o'clock every morning,

3411
01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:00,300
I always have, I'd like

3412
01:42:00,300 --> 01:42:02,300
to do it

3413
01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:03,300
for quite a few more years,

3414
01:42:03,300 --> 01:42:05,300
and I'd like

3415
01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:08,300
to get a full night's sleep.

3416
01:42:08,300 --> 01:42:09,300
But if the traffic and the

3417
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:10,300
noise continues past 10 o'clock

3418
01:42:10,300 --> 01:42:12,300
at night,

3419
01:42:13,300 --> 01:42:14,300
it's gonna be difficult

3420
01:42:14,300 --> 01:42:17,300
for everybody to do that.

3421
01:42:17,300 --> 01:42:18,300
But I'd like

3422
01:42:18,300 --> 01:42:19,300
to have it reconsidered.

3423
01:42:19,300 --> 01:42:21,300
Thank you for your time.

3424
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:23,300
Thank you, Mr. Gibney.

3425
01:42:23,300 --> 01:42:25,300
Dr. Kevin Baker.

3426
01:42:41,300 --> 01:42:42,300
Good evening.

3427
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:44,300
My name's Kevin Baker.

3428
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:46,300
I'm a concerned resident of

3429
01:42:46,300 --> 01:42:48,300
Alvarado Avenue, which is

3430
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:49,300
immediately adjacent to the

3431
01:42:49,300 --> 01:42:51,300
school property.

3432
01:42:52,300 --> 01:42:53,300
I fully support the use

3433
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:55,300
of the building

3434
01:42:55,300 --> 01:42:56,300
of the gym.

3435
01:42:56,300 --> 01:42:57,300
I'm opposed to the use

3436
01:42:57,300 --> 01:42:59,300
of rental at that same gym,

3437
01:42:59,300 --> 01:43:01,300
especially

3438
01:43:02,300 --> 01:43:04,403
at non-school event spaces.

3439
01:43:05,300 --> 01:43:07,300
The impact on the neighborhood

3440
01:43:07,300 --> 01:43:08,300
will be significant,

3441
01:43:08,300 --> 01:43:09,300
especially if events are

3442
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:12,300
allowed to go on to 10 and 11

3443
01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:14,300
p.m. at night.

3444
01:43:14,300 --> 01:43:15,300
This likely means that the

3445
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:17,300
traffic leaving the venue will

3446
01:43:17,300 --> 01:43:18,300
be happening late

3447
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:19,300
into the night.

3448
01:43:19,300 --> 01:43:21,300
And with the new speed bumps

3449
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:23,300
that have been installed on

3450
01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:26,300
Adeline and Alvarado, one of

3451
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:27,300
which is directly outside my

3452
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:29,300
residence, I'll be hearing the

3453
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:31,403
thump, thump of traffic

3454
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:34,300
at all hours of the night.

3455
01:43:34,300 --> 01:43:36,403
This is not hypothetical.

3456
01:43:38,300 --> 01:43:39,300
We already hear traffic

3457
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:41,300
from the mansion events, or

3458
01:43:41,300 --> 01:43:43,403
happens almost every weekend.

3459
01:43:44,300 --> 01:43:47,603
I'm asking you to consider for

3460
01:43:48,300 --> 01:43:50,300
the property taxpaying

3461
01:43:50,300 --> 01:43:52,300
residents who this will impact,

3462
01:43:52,300 --> 01:43:54,300
that you do not vote,

3463
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:55,300
that you vote

3464
01:43:55,300 --> 01:43:57,300
to deny the application

3465
01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:59,300
for rent.

3466
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:01,300
Thank you.

3467
01:44:01,300 --> 01:44:03,300
Thank you, Dr. Baker.

3468
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:05,300
David Green.

3469
01:44:12,300 --> 01:44:13,300
Hi there.

3470
01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:14,300
Thank you

3471
01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:15,300
for giving me this opportunity

3472
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:16,300
to speak to you tonight.

3473
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:17,300
David Green, I live at 2020

3474
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:18,300
Adeline Drive, which is at

3475
01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:21,300
Vancouver, a few blocks away.

3476
01:44:21,300 --> 01:44:23,300
And like everybody

3477
01:44:23,300 --> 01:44:25,300
in this room, I'm supportive of

3478
01:44:25,300 --> 01:44:26,300
the gym project.

3479
01:44:26,300 --> 01:44:28,300
I'm delighted to see Mercy

3480
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:29,300
continue to success.

3481
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:30,300
It's one

3482
01:44:30,300 --> 01:44:31,300
of the reasons I wanted

3483
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:32,300
to live in this neighborhood

3484
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:33,300
for the last 20 years.

3485
01:44:33,300 --> 01:44:34,300
And I knew there was gonna be

3486
01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:35,300
traffic when I bought the

3487
01:44:35,300 --> 01:44:36,300
house.

3488
01:44:36,300 --> 01:44:37,300
I came out to see what it'd be

3489
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:38,300
like.

3490
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:39,300
And yeah, there's a lot

3491
01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:40,300
of traffic in the morning,

3492
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:41,300
and there's a lot of traffic

3493
01:44:41,300 --> 01:44:42,300
in the afternoon.

3494
01:44:42,300 --> 01:44:43,300
And I bought the house knowing

3495
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:44,300
that.

3496
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:46,300
So my only objection,

3497
01:44:46,300 --> 01:44:48,300
like you've heard, is

3498
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:49,300
on the use of this property

3499
01:44:49,300 --> 01:44:51,300
of the gym to 11 o'clock, seven

3500
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:53,300
days a week.

3501
01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:55,300
I can tell you right now,

3502
01:44:55,300 --> 01:44:56,300
when there's a wedding at

3503
01:44:56,300 --> 01:44:57,300
Mercy, when it's over,

3504
01:44:57,300 --> 01:44:59,300
I can tell you when it's over,

3505
01:44:59,300 --> 01:45:00,300
because the traffic is

3506
01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:01,300
substantial.

3507
01:45:01,300 --> 01:45:03,300
And I can live

3508
01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:04,300
with what we have today,

3509
01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:05,300
but adding to that, I don't

3510
01:45:05,300 --> 01:45:06,300
think it's reasonable.

3511
01:45:06,300 --> 01:45:08,300
I respectfully ask you

3512
01:45:08,300 --> 01:45:09,300
to stick

3513
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:10,300
with the original plan

3514
01:45:10,300 --> 01:45:12,300
before the Planning Commission

3515
01:45:12,300 --> 01:45:13,300
unilaterally overturned that

3516
01:45:13,300 --> 01:45:16,300
recommendation with the uses as

3517
01:45:17,300 --> 01:45:18,300
described before.

3518
01:45:18,300 --> 01:45:20,300
Thanks.

3519
01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:22,403
Thank you, Mr. Green.

3520
01:45:23,300 --> 01:45:25,300
Minjee Lee.

3521
01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:33,300
Hi, thank you for giving me

3522
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:35,300
this opportunity to speak.

3523
01:45:35,300 --> 01:45:36,300
My name is Minjee.

3524
01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:37,300
I currently live on Hoover

3525
01:45:37,300 --> 01:45:38,300
Avenue, like right across

3526
01:45:38,300 --> 01:45:41,300
from the Mercy main entrance.

3527
01:45:41,300 --> 01:45:43,300
So my family and I, we love

3528
01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:45,300
Mercy community.

3529
01:45:46,300 --> 01:45:47,300
We've really come

3530
01:45:47,300 --> 01:45:48,300
across really, we got

3531
01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:49,300
to know a lot

3532
01:45:49,300 --> 01:45:50,300
of really awesome, great folks

3533
01:45:50,300 --> 01:45:51,300
from Mercy.

3534
01:45:51,300 --> 01:45:52,300
So by no means, we are kind

3535
01:45:52,300 --> 01:45:54,300
of opposed to any of the plans

3536
01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:56,300
that was discussed tonight.

3537
01:45:56,300 --> 01:45:57,300
We are very much supportive

3538
01:45:57,300 --> 01:45:58,300
of building the gym

3539
01:45:58,300 --> 01:46:00,300
for the girls and students.

3540
01:46:00,300 --> 01:46:02,300
However, we do have concerns

3541
01:46:02,300 --> 01:46:04,300
about the third-party rental.

3542
01:46:04,300 --> 01:46:07,300
My husband and I moved from

3543
01:46:07,300 --> 01:46:09,300
San Francisco to Burlingame

3544
01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:10,300
like five years ago

3545
01:46:10,300 --> 01:46:12,300
to raise our young children.

3546
01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:13,300
And we actually chose to move

3547
01:46:13,300 --> 01:46:14,300
to Burlingame because we loved

3548
01:46:14,300 --> 01:46:16,300
how family-friendly the entire

3549
01:46:16,300 --> 01:46:17,300
neighborhood seemed like

3550
01:46:17,300 --> 01:46:19,300
at the time.

3551
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:20,300
So we decided to buy a place

3552
01:46:20,300 --> 01:46:21,300
and decided

3553
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:22,300
to raise our children

3554
01:46:22,300 --> 01:46:23,300
in the city of Burlingame,

3555
01:46:23,300 --> 01:46:25,300
right across from the Mercy.

3556
01:46:25,300 --> 01:46:26,300
And one of the main reasons we

3557
01:46:26,300 --> 01:46:28,300
moved away from San Francisco

3558
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:29,300
was that we actually wanted

3559
01:46:29,300 --> 01:46:30,300
to move away

3560
01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:32,300
from late-night traffic,

3561
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:33,300
late-night noise, all the kind

3562
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:35,300
of late-night things the city

3563
01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:36,300
has to offer.

3564
01:46:36,300 --> 01:46:38,300
So that's actually why we moved

3565
01:46:38,300 --> 01:46:39,300
here.

3566
01:46:39,300 --> 01:46:40,300
And hearing the whole

3567
01:46:40,300 --> 01:46:41,300
discussion

3568
01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:42,300
around the third-party rentals,

3569
01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:43,300
potentially running into late

3570
01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:44,300
in the night and all that,

3571
01:46:44,300 --> 01:46:45,300
that's been kind of concerning

3572
01:46:45,300 --> 01:46:47,300
to us.

3573
01:46:47,300 --> 01:46:48,300
And I do understand that other

3574
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:50,300
schools do not have the same

3575
01:46:50,300 --> 01:46:51,300
restrictions as what's

3576
01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:53,300
currently discussed.

3577
01:46:53,300 --> 01:46:55,300
However, I think every school

3578
01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:58,603
needs to be kind of addressed

3579
01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:01,300
in given its own own and unique

3580
01:47:01,300 --> 01:47:03,300
special situations.

3581
01:47:03,300 --> 01:47:04,300
I don't think it's

3582
01:47:04,300 --> 01:47:05,300
like school versus

3583
01:47:05,300 --> 01:47:06,300
like single house

3584
01:47:06,300 --> 01:47:07,300
like dwellings,

3585
01:47:07,300 --> 01:47:08,300
but it's really about the

3586
01:47:08,300 --> 01:47:09,300
community that we are building

3587
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:10,300
together.

3588
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:11,300
So I really hope the city

3589
01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:12,300
council members do consider the

3590
01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:13,300
residents' and neighbors' needs

3591
01:47:13,300 --> 01:47:14,300
and like voices

3592
01:47:14,300 --> 01:47:15,300
in today's hearing.

3593
01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:17,300
Thank you.

3594
01:47:17,300 --> 01:47:19,300
Thank you, Ms. Lee.

3595
01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:21,300
Mike Brunicardi.

3596
01:47:28,300 --> 01:47:30,300
Mr. Mayor, council members,

3597
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:31,300
and guests, my name is Mike

3598
01:47:31,300 --> 01:47:32,300
Brunicardi, and I have the

3599
01:47:32,300 --> 01:47:33,300
pleasure and honor to live at

3600
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:34,300
2200 Adeline, which is at

3601
01:47:34,300 --> 01:47:35,300
Adeline and Columbus, a half

3602
01:47:35,300 --> 01:47:36,300
block down from the Mercy

3603
01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:38,300
Lower Gate.

3604
01:47:38,300 --> 01:47:39,300
Love Mercy.

3605
01:47:39,300 --> 01:47:40,300
Beautiful school, beautiful

3606
01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:42,300
campus, great neighbor.

3607
01:47:42,300 --> 01:47:44,300
I'm fully supportive of them

3608
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:45,300
building a gymnasium.

3609
01:47:45,300 --> 01:47:46,300
I have five grown children.

3610
01:47:46,300 --> 01:47:48,300
They all played athletics.

3611
01:47:48,300 --> 01:47:49,300
Two played all the way

3612
01:47:49,300 --> 01:47:51,300
through college.

3613
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:52,300
And I support that

3614
01:47:52,300 --> 01:47:53,300
wholeheartedly.

3615
01:47:53,300 --> 01:47:55,300
New pool,

3616
01:47:55,300 --> 01:47:56,300
that's great.

3617
01:47:56,300 --> 01:47:57,300
I think in order for this

3618
01:47:57,300 --> 01:47:58,300
to be successful

3619
01:47:58,300 --> 01:47:59,300
in our neighborhood,

3620
01:47:59,300 --> 01:48:00,300
because it is indeed unique,

3621
01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:01,300
it has to have three specific

3622
01:48:01,300 --> 01:48:03,300
conditions.

3623
01:48:03,300 --> 01:48:05,300
One is that the gym

3624
01:48:05,300 --> 01:48:06,300
in that area needs

3625
01:48:06,300 --> 01:48:07,300
to be cleared out by 10.

3626
01:48:07,300 --> 01:48:08,300
Secondly, there needs

3627
01:48:08,300 --> 01:48:09,300
to be a law enforcement officer

3628
01:48:09,300 --> 01:48:10,300
in attendance

3629
01:48:10,300 --> 01:48:12,300
at those night events to make

3630
01:48:12,300 --> 01:48:13,300
sure that all the rules are

3631
01:48:13,300 --> 01:48:15,300
being followed.

3632
01:48:15,300 --> 01:48:17,300
And third, there should be no

3633
01:48:17,300 --> 01:48:19,300
third-party outside rentals.

3634
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:21,300
I can say this

3635
01:48:21,300 --> 01:48:23,300
from experience.

3636
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:24,300
I was in law enforcement for

3637
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:25,300
33 years.

3638
01:48:25,300 --> 01:48:26,300
I retired from San Mateo PD

3639
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:28,300
in 2012.

3640
01:48:29,300 --> 01:48:31,300
I ran operations, and we have

3641
01:48:31,300 --> 01:48:33,300
four large high schools.

3642
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:34,300
I dealt specifically with

3643
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:36,300
Hillsdale High School, who

3644
01:48:36,300 --> 01:48:37,300
revamped their sports and

3645
01:48:37,300 --> 01:48:40,300
athletic areas off of 36th.

3646
01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:41,300
And I can tell you,

3647
01:48:41,300 --> 01:48:42,300
it was not successful.

3648
01:48:42,300 --> 01:48:45,300
And complaints came in heavy,

3649
01:48:45,300 --> 01:48:46,300
and it really divided the

3650
01:48:46,300 --> 01:48:47,300
neighborhood.

3651
01:48:47,300 --> 01:48:48,300
And that's my concern here.

3652
01:48:48,300 --> 01:48:51,300
What the main issues were

3653
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:53,300
during my tenure was traffic

3654
01:48:53,300 --> 01:48:54,300
loitering, garbage.

3655
01:48:54,300 --> 01:48:57,300
Garbage ended up being a big

3656
01:48:57,300 --> 01:48:58,300
concern.

3657
01:48:58,300 --> 01:48:59,300
Parking, and all these things

3658
01:48:59,300 --> 01:49:00,300
are really difficult

3659
01:49:00,300 --> 01:49:01,300
to enforce.

3660
01:49:01,300 --> 01:49:02,300
So you really have to look

3661
01:49:02,300 --> 01:49:04,300
at the conditions and use

3662
01:49:04,300 --> 01:49:05,300
permit in order

3663
01:49:05,300 --> 01:49:06,300
to prohibit these sort

3664
01:49:06,300 --> 01:49:08,300
of things to ruin the ambience

3665
01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:10,300
of the neighborhood.

3666
01:49:10,300 --> 01:49:11,300
Because it really is a great

3667
01:49:11,300 --> 01:49:12,300
partnership right now,

3668
01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:14,300
and I'd hate to see the use

3669
01:49:14,300 --> 01:49:15,300
permit being a divider between

3670
01:49:15,300 --> 01:49:17,403
a really great neighborhood

3671
01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:20,300
to live and have kids in,

3672
01:49:20,300 --> 01:49:22,403
and some minor chaos

3673
01:49:23,300 --> 01:49:25,300
during the evening hours.

3674
01:49:25,300 --> 01:49:26,300
Thank you.

3675
01:49:26,300 --> 01:49:28,300
Thank you, Mr. Pernod-Carty.

3676
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:30,403
Anya McKissack, is that

3677
01:49:31,300 --> 01:49:33,300
correct?

3678
01:49:39,300 --> 01:49:40,300
My name is Anya McKissack, and

3679
01:49:40,300 --> 01:49:41,300
I'm speaking on behalf of

3680
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:43,300
Mercy High School Burlingame to

3681
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:44,300
express our sincere

3682
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:45,300
appreciation

3683
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:47,300
for the consideration given to

3684
01:49:47,300 --> 01:49:48,300
our recent proposal regarding

3685
01:49:48,300 --> 01:49:50,300
gym usage.

3686
01:49:50,300 --> 01:49:51,300
We are grateful for the

3687
01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:52,300
planning commission, whose

3688
01:49:52,300 --> 01:49:53,300
decision reflected a fair

3689
01:49:53,300 --> 01:49:54,300
approach to supporting both our

3690
01:49:54,300 --> 01:49:55,300
school and the surrounding

3691
01:49:55,300 --> 01:49:57,300
community.

3692
01:49:57,300 --> 01:49:59,300
We hope that the city council

3693
01:49:59,300 --> 01:50:00,300
will uphold this well-reasoned

3694
01:50:00,300 --> 01:50:02,300
decision.

3695
01:50:02,300 --> 01:50:03,300
Mercy High School has long

3696
01:50:03,300 --> 01:50:04,300
valued its place within the

3697
01:50:04,300 --> 01:50:06,300
Burlingame community,

3698
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:08,300
and we remain steadfast

3699
01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:10,300
in our commitment

3700
01:50:10,300 --> 01:50:11,300
to being a good neighbor.

3701
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:13,300
Our school understands the

3702
01:50:13,300 --> 01:50:14,300
importance of maintaining the

3703
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:15,300
peaceful character

3704
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:16,300
of our neighborhood,

3705
01:50:16,300 --> 01:50:17,300
and we will continue

3706
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:18,300
to operate in a manner that

3707
01:50:18,300 --> 01:50:19,300
respects our surroundings.

3708
01:50:19,300 --> 01:50:20,300
But please consider our request

3709
01:50:20,300 --> 01:50:22,300
that any conditions placed

3710
01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:24,300
on our gym usage align with the

3711
01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:25,300
standard practices upheld

3712
01:50:25,300 --> 01:50:27,300
for all schools in

3713
01:50:27,300 --> 01:50:28,300
Burlingame.

3714
01:50:28,300 --> 01:50:29,300
Consistency in these policies

3715
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:31,300
ensures fairness and equity,

3716
01:50:31,300 --> 01:50:33,300
and allows us to continue

3717
01:50:33,300 --> 01:50:35,300
providing valuable athletic and

3718
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:37,300
extracurricular opportunities

3719
01:50:37,300 --> 01:50:38,300
for myself and my fellow

3720
01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:40,300
students.

3721
01:50:40,300 --> 01:50:41,300
We appreciate your thoughtful

3722
01:50:41,300 --> 01:50:43,300
deliberation on this matter,

3723
01:50:43,300 --> 01:50:44,300
and your ongoing partnership

3724
01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:46,300
in preserving the integrity of

3725
01:50:46,300 --> 01:50:47,300
our neighborhood while allowing

3726
01:50:47,300 --> 01:50:48,300
Mercy High School to thrive in

3727
01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:50,300
the same matter as our co-ed

3728
01:50:50,300 --> 01:50:52,300
counterparts.

3729
01:50:52,300 --> 01:50:53,300
Thank you for your leadership

3730
01:50:53,300 --> 01:50:54,300
and service to the Burlingame

3731
01:50:54,300 --> 01:50:55,300
community.

3732
01:50:55,300 --> 01:50:57,300
Thank you for the opportunity

3733
01:50:57,300 --> 01:50:58,300
to speak.

3734
01:50:58,300 --> 01:50:59,300
Thank you, Ms. McKesson.

3735
01:50:59,300 --> 01:51:01,403
Valerie Teal or Teal?

3736
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:05,300
Teal, thank you.

3737
01:51:07,300 --> 01:51:09,300
Hi, I'm Valerie Teal.

3738
01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:11,300
We live at 1448 Alvarado.

3739
01:51:11,300 --> 01:51:12,300
And I just wanna first say that

3740
01:51:12,300 --> 01:51:14,300
my mother was Mercy class of

3741
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:17,300
46, and that Brett and I were

3742
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:18,300
married at Cole Mansion.

3743
01:51:18,300 --> 01:51:20,300
In fact, we bought our house

3744
01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:21,300
partly because we could see

3745
01:51:21,300 --> 01:51:22,300
where we got married

3746
01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:24,403
from our kitchen window.

3747
01:51:25,300 --> 01:51:28,300
Our concerns are not about

3748
01:51:29,300 --> 01:51:30,300
anything other than the traffic

3749
01:51:30,300 --> 01:51:32,300
and the noise.

3750
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:35,300
We fully support girls' sports,

3751
01:51:35,300 --> 01:51:37,300
equity, them having the gym,

3752
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:39,300
the whole thing.

3753
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:42,300
But we've had an ongoing issue

3754
01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:43,300
with traffic and noise

3755
01:51:43,300 --> 01:51:44,300
for years,

3756
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:45,300
and we've brought it

3757
01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:46,300
before the city council

3758
01:51:46,300 --> 01:51:47,300
on many occasions.

3759
01:51:47,300 --> 01:51:49,300
I mean, the city in general.

3760
01:51:49,300 --> 01:51:50,300
We have every right

3761
01:51:50,300 --> 01:51:51,300
to be concerned

3762
01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:52,300
about the safety

3763
01:51:52,300 --> 01:51:53,300
of the children that live

3764
01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:54,300
on our block and the safety

3765
01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:55,300
of the joggers, the bike

3766
01:51:55,300 --> 01:51:56,300
riders, and the dog walkers who

3767
01:51:56,300 --> 01:51:57,300
share our streets.

3768
01:51:57,300 --> 01:51:59,403
The Hillside corridor speed

3769
01:52:00,300 --> 01:52:01,300
issue has been addressed and

3770
01:52:01,300 --> 01:52:02,300
remedied, but the traffic on

3771
01:52:02,300 --> 01:52:04,300
Alvarado, a much narrower

3772
01:52:04,300 --> 01:52:05,300
street, and one

3773
01:52:05,300 --> 01:52:07,300
of the contributing factors

3774
01:52:07,300 --> 01:52:08,300
to the dangerous intersection

3775
01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:10,300
at Hillside and Alvarado

3776
01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:12,300
remains a persistent problem,

3777
01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:13,300
largely because of Mercy

3778
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:14,300
traffic.

3779
01:52:14,300 --> 01:52:17,300
We have had five incidents

3780
01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:19,300
of vehicle damage because

3781
01:52:19,300 --> 01:52:21,300
of excessive speed and traffic,

3782
01:52:21,300 --> 01:52:23,300
one being a wedding guest at

3783
01:52:23,300 --> 01:52:24,300
Cole who partied a little too

3784
01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:26,300
much, smashed into our car,

3785
01:52:26,300 --> 01:52:27,300
and pushed it up

3786
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:29,300
on the sidewalk.

3787
01:52:29,300 --> 01:52:30,300
We have to plan

3788
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:31,300
to leave our house around

3789
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:32,300
pick-up and drop-off because we

3790
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:33,300
can't get into and out

3791
01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:34,300
of our driveway.

3792
01:52:34,300 --> 01:52:35,300
We've been honked at, yelled

3793
01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:36,300
at, just for trying to get

3794
01:52:36,300 --> 01:52:37,300
to our house.

3795
01:52:37,300 --> 01:52:38,300
And I want to say,

3796
01:52:38,300 --> 01:52:40,300
it is not the student drivers.

3797
01:52:40,300 --> 01:52:42,300
It's the parents.

3798
01:52:42,300 --> 01:52:43,300
A child has been hit

3799
01:52:43,300 --> 01:52:44,300
in the crosswalk.

3800
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:45,300
There have been several more

3801
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:46,300
near misses.

3802
01:52:46,300 --> 01:52:47,300
Pets have been struck and

3803
01:52:47,300 --> 01:52:49,300
killed.

3804
01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:50,300
You add in the delivery trucks,

3805
01:52:50,300 --> 01:52:51,300
the gardeners, the tree

3806
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:52,300
trimmers, the contractors,

3807
01:52:52,300 --> 01:52:53,300
the garbage trucks, and it's

3808
01:52:53,300 --> 01:52:54,300
like a video game trying

3809
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:55,300
to navigate down the street.

3810
01:52:55,300 --> 01:52:57,300
But every single weekday,

3811
01:52:57,300 --> 01:52:59,300
we have to deal with it.

3812
01:52:59,300 --> 01:53:00,300
We're actually very reasonable

3813
01:53:00,300 --> 01:53:01,300
people who deal

3814
01:53:01,300 --> 01:53:03,300
with all these isolated events,

3815
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:04,300
but when you take it

3816
01:53:04,300 --> 01:53:05,300
in aggregate, the traffic and

3817
01:53:05,300 --> 01:53:07,300
noise absolutely negatively

3818
01:53:07,300 --> 01:53:09,300
impacts the neighborhood,

3819
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:11,300
particularly Alvarado.

3820
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:14,300
Thank you, Ms. Teal.

3821
01:53:14,300 --> 01:53:16,300
Rick Lechleitner.

3822
01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:26,300
Hi, my name's Rick

3823
01:53:26,300 --> 01:53:27,300
Lechleitner.

3824
01:53:27,300 --> 01:53:30,300
I am a Sarah graduate, and I

3825
01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:32,300
like to say I'm a graduate of

3826
01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:34,300
Mercy or alumni of Mercy

3827
01:53:34,300 --> 01:53:35,300
because I did go to tri-school

3828
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:37,300
for my senior year and got an A

3829
01:53:37,300 --> 01:53:38,300
in art class with Sister

3830
01:53:38,300 --> 01:53:40,300
Jean-Marie.

3831
01:53:43,300 --> 01:53:45,300
And I'm here to fully support

3832
01:53:45,300 --> 01:53:47,403
the gym for Mercy.

3833
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:50,300
My wife's an alumni also.

3834
01:53:50,300 --> 01:53:52,300
She's on the board.

3835
01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:53,300
Our little daughter's

3836
01:53:53,300 --> 01:53:54,300
in fourth grade,

3837
01:53:54,300 --> 01:53:55,300
and she's gonna be a Mercy

3838
01:53:55,300 --> 01:53:57,300
Bear someday.

3839
01:53:57,300 --> 01:53:59,300
But we also go to Good

3840
01:53:59,300 --> 01:54:01,300
Shepherd right now.

3841
01:54:02,300 --> 01:54:03,300
So I just wanted

3842
01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:04,300
to share my experience

3843
01:54:04,300 --> 01:54:05,300
with our gym.

3844
01:54:05,300 --> 01:54:06,300
We're also in the Archdiocese

3845
01:54:06,300 --> 01:54:08,300
of San Francisco.

3846
01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:09,300
So we are a little private

3847
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:10,300
school.

3848
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:11,300
We do rentals.

3849
01:54:11,300 --> 01:54:13,300
We have parking.

3850
01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:16,300
We take care of the noise.

3851
01:54:16,300 --> 01:54:19,300
All these are fair concerns,

3852
01:54:19,300 --> 01:54:21,300
but as far as the parking goes,

3853
01:54:21,300 --> 01:54:23,300
we have a smaller school,

3854
01:54:23,300 --> 01:54:25,300
smaller parking lot,

3855
01:54:25,300 --> 01:54:27,300
and we rent out our gym

3856
01:54:27,300 --> 01:54:29,300
to leagues, other leagues

3857
01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:31,300
around, athletic departments,

3858
01:54:32,300 --> 01:54:34,300
sports teams.

3859
01:54:35,300 --> 01:54:36,300
They're all very respectful,

3860
01:54:36,300 --> 01:54:38,403
and there's always enough

3861
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:41,300
parking for these teams.

3862
01:54:41,300 --> 01:54:42,300
They're always doing

3863
01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:43,300
after school.

3864
01:54:43,300 --> 01:54:44,300
They're coming in one

3865
01:54:44,300 --> 01:54:45,300
at a time.

3866
01:54:45,300 --> 01:54:46,300
There's never overflow.

3867
01:54:46,300 --> 01:54:48,300
It always works, and I don't

3868
01:54:48,300 --> 01:54:49,300
see it being any different

3869
01:54:49,300 --> 01:54:50,300
for Mercy.

3870
01:54:50,300 --> 01:54:51,300
It's not like we're gonna have

3871
01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:52,300
500 or 300 extra cars there

3872
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:53,300
at a time.

3873
01:54:53,300 --> 01:54:56,300
So you gotta be realistic

3874
01:54:56,300 --> 01:54:58,300
about the parking and stuff.

3875
01:54:58,300 --> 01:54:59,300
And the rentals,

3876
01:54:59,300 --> 01:55:01,300
they're not renting it out

3877
01:55:01,300 --> 01:55:03,403
to these huge parties.

3878
01:55:04,300 --> 01:55:05,300
That's for the Cole Mansion.

3879
01:55:05,300 --> 01:55:06,300
The gym is for sports,

3880
01:55:06,300 --> 01:55:08,300
volleyball, like you said,

3881
01:55:08,300 --> 01:55:10,300
futsal, basketball,

3882
01:55:10,300 --> 01:55:12,300
and we need something

3883
01:55:12,300 --> 01:55:14,300
like that here in Burlingame

3884
01:55:14,300 --> 01:55:15,300
and for Mercy and for the other

3885
01:55:15,300 --> 01:55:17,300
neighbors and community.

3886
01:55:18,300 --> 01:55:20,300
And then the noise,

3887
01:55:20,300 --> 01:55:22,300
just real quick.

3888
01:55:22,300 --> 01:55:23,300
I mean, the building made

3889
01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:24,300
of brick.

3890
01:55:24,300 --> 01:55:25,300
It's gonna have a lobby.

3891
01:55:25,300 --> 01:55:26,300
The noise is gonna stay inside.

3892
01:55:26,300 --> 01:55:27,300
It's probably gonna be better

3893
01:55:27,300 --> 01:55:28,300
for noise for the community.

3894
01:55:28,300 --> 01:55:29,300
So I say, let's go, gym,

3895
01:55:29,300 --> 01:55:30,300
Mercy.

3896
01:55:30,300 --> 01:55:32,300
Thank you.

3897
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,300
Thank you, Mr. Lechneitner.

3898
01:55:34,300 --> 01:55:36,300
Lynn Israelit.

3899
01:55:38,300 --> 01:55:40,300
She already spoke.

3900
01:55:40,300 --> 01:55:41,300
No, she don't.

3901
01:55:41,300 --> 01:55:42,300
She already spoke.

3902
01:55:42,300 --> 01:55:43,300
Okay, I know, but.

3903
01:55:43,300 --> 01:55:45,300
Yeah, so she spoke as the

3904
01:55:45,300 --> 01:55:48,300
appellant, so she doesn't get

3905
01:55:49,300 --> 01:55:51,300
to speak as a member

3906
01:55:51,300 --> 01:55:52,300
of the public.

3907
01:55:52,300 --> 01:55:53,300
Very good, okay.

3908
01:55:53,300 --> 01:55:55,300
Anne Keegren.

3909
01:56:01,300 --> 01:56:02,300
Good evening, Mayor and council

3910
01:56:02,300 --> 01:56:04,300
members.

3911
01:56:04,300 --> 01:56:05,300
I received this brochure today

3912
01:56:05,300 --> 01:56:07,300
in the mail.

3913
01:56:07,300 --> 01:56:09,300
We'll see.

3914
01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:10,300
It says, I can play

3915
01:56:10,300 --> 01:56:12,300
like the greats.

3916
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:13,300
The only difference is I don't

3917
01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:15,300
have a gym.

3918
01:56:15,300 --> 01:56:17,300
And it's a very sad statement

3919
01:56:17,300 --> 01:56:19,300
considering Mercy was built

3920
01:56:19,300 --> 01:56:21,300
in 1931.

3921
01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:23,300
It provides a unique and

3922
01:56:23,300 --> 01:56:24,300
valuable educational

3923
01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:25,300
experience.

3924
01:56:25,300 --> 01:56:26,300
It's an all-girl Catholic

3925
01:56:26,300 --> 01:56:28,300
school on private property and

3926
01:56:28,300 --> 01:56:29,300
does not rely

3927
01:56:29,300 --> 01:56:30,300
on taxpayer money

3928
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:32,300
to support it.

3929
01:56:32,300 --> 01:56:33,300
Let's not jeopardize this.

3930
01:56:33,300 --> 01:56:36,300
I do think Mercy should have

3931
01:56:36,300 --> 01:56:37,300
the option

3932
01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:38,300
of third-party rentals, just

3933
01:56:38,300 --> 01:56:40,403
like Burlingame High School.

3934
01:56:41,300 --> 01:56:42,300
If you want to compromise

3935
01:56:42,300 --> 01:56:43,300
with the neighbors,

3936
01:56:43,300 --> 01:56:45,300
because they do have concerns,

3937
01:56:45,300 --> 01:56:47,300
maybe do an evaluation after

3938
01:56:47,300 --> 01:56:50,300
12 to 18 months to see how it

3939
01:56:50,300 --> 01:56:52,403
goes and then reevaluate.

3940
01:56:54,300 --> 01:56:55,300
I understand the importance

3941
01:56:55,300 --> 01:56:56,300
of trying to avoid parking in

3942
01:56:56,300 --> 01:56:57,300
the neighborhood and it should

3943
01:56:57,300 --> 01:56:58,300
be strongly encouraged.

3944
01:56:58,300 --> 01:57:00,300
However, let me remind you,

3945
01:57:00,300 --> 01:57:02,300
this is an issue

3946
01:57:02,300 --> 01:57:03,300
with all the schools here in

3947
01:57:03,300 --> 01:57:04,300
Burlingame.

3948
01:57:04,300 --> 01:57:05,300
This is nothing unique.

3949
01:57:05,300 --> 01:57:06,300
Mercy has approximately 390

3950
01:57:06,300 --> 01:57:08,403
parking spaces versus the 217

3951
01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:11,300
that is required.

3952
01:57:11,300 --> 01:57:12,300
Let us not forget that only

3953
01:57:12,300 --> 01:57:14,300
360 students attend Mercy

3954
01:57:15,300 --> 01:57:17,300
versus over 1200 students that

3955
01:57:17,300 --> 01:57:19,300
attend Burlingame High School

3956
01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:20,300
and they only have 217 parking

3957
01:57:20,300 --> 01:57:22,300
spaces.

3958
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:23,300
Many Burlingame neighborhoods

3959
01:57:23,300 --> 01:57:25,300
experience heavy traffic

3960
01:57:25,300 --> 01:57:27,300
around all our schools.

3961
01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:29,300
It may be an inconvenience.

3962
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:30,300
We are here

3963
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:32,300
to promote education, not

3964
01:57:32,300 --> 01:57:33,300
stifle it because we do have

3965
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:35,300
some inconveniences.

3966
01:57:35,300 --> 01:57:37,300
Let's not forget Mercy has been

3967
01:57:37,300 --> 01:57:38,300
an outstanding neighbor

3968
01:57:38,300 --> 01:57:39,300
for many years.

3969
01:57:39,300 --> 01:57:40,300
They have allowed neighbors

3970
01:57:40,300 --> 01:57:41,300
to enter private property,

3971
01:57:41,300 --> 01:57:42,300
to stroll, walk their dogs and

3972
01:57:42,300 --> 01:57:44,300
enjoy tranquil surroundings.

3973
01:57:44,300 --> 01:57:46,300
I appreciate what Mercy has

3974
01:57:46,300 --> 01:57:47,300
done to accommodate our

3975
01:57:47,300 --> 01:57:49,300
community and we should strive

3976
01:57:49,300 --> 01:57:51,300
to support them.

3977
01:57:51,300 --> 01:57:52,300
I do live two blocks away

3978
01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:54,300
from Mercy on Vancouver, grew

3979
01:57:54,300 --> 01:57:55,300
up

3980
01:57:55,300 --> 01:57:56,300
in the community and attended

3981
01:57:56,300 --> 01:57:57,300
Mercy.

3982
01:57:57,300 --> 01:57:59,300
I ran up the hill every morning

3983
01:57:59,300 --> 01:58:00,300
to go to school.

3984
01:58:00,300 --> 01:58:01,300
This school and its beautiful

3985
01:58:01,300 --> 01:58:02,300
surroundings are assets to

3986
01:58:02,300 --> 01:58:03,300
Burlingame.

3987
01:58:03,300 --> 01:58:06,300
Let us preserve this asset and

3988
01:58:06,300 --> 01:58:07,300
embrace the proposed

3989
01:58:07,300 --> 01:58:09,300
improvements

3990
01:58:09,300 --> 01:58:11,300
without onerous conditions.

3991
01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:12,300
Thank you.

3992
01:58:12,300 --> 01:58:13,300
Thank you, Ms. Kuechman.

3993
01:58:13,300 --> 01:58:15,300
Jamie Lechneitner.

3994
01:58:26,300 --> 01:58:28,300
Good evening,

3995
01:58:28,300 --> 01:58:29,300
city council members.

3996
01:58:29,300 --> 01:58:31,300
My name is Jamie Lechneitner.

3997
01:58:31,300 --> 01:58:34,300
I'm a graduate of the class

3998
01:58:34,300 --> 01:58:35,300
of 2002.

3999
01:58:35,300 --> 01:58:37,300
I wore that same uniform you

4000
01:58:37,300 --> 01:58:39,300
just saw that Isis and Anya

4001
01:58:39,300 --> 01:58:41,300
wore and I played basketball

4002
01:58:41,300 --> 01:58:43,300
there 23 years ago.

4003
01:58:43,300 --> 01:58:45,403
And 23 years ago, just

4004
01:58:46,300 --> 01:58:47,300
like today,

4005
01:58:47,300 --> 01:58:49,300
there was no gym.

4006
01:58:49,300 --> 01:58:50,300
My request is pretty simple.

4007
01:58:50,300 --> 01:58:53,300
If you're going to restrict

4008
01:58:53,300 --> 01:58:56,300
Mercy Burlingame, and I'm not

4009
01:58:56,300 --> 01:58:59,300
suggesting that you do that,

4010
01:58:59,300 --> 01:59:01,300
but if you're going to, then I

4011
01:59:01,300 --> 01:59:03,300
suggest that you explore doing

4012
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:05,300
that for all the other schools

4013
01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:07,300
that you would do that to.

4014
01:59:07,300 --> 01:59:09,300
Because why should we be the

4015
01:59:09,300 --> 01:59:11,300
exception?

4016
01:59:11,300 --> 01:59:13,300
I don't suggest it.

4017
01:59:13,300 --> 01:59:14,300
For the record, I do not

4018
01:59:14,300 --> 01:59:15,300
suggest that.

4019
01:59:15,300 --> 01:59:17,300
I think we need more gym space

4020
01:59:17,300 --> 01:59:18,300
and we need more facilities

4021
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:19,300
for our kids.

4022
01:59:19,300 --> 01:59:21,300
And my hope is that the

4023
01:59:21,300 --> 01:59:24,300
neighbors hear us loud and

4024
01:59:24,300 --> 01:59:25,300
clear.

4025
01:59:25,300 --> 01:59:27,300
We are committed to being

4026
01:59:27,300 --> 01:59:29,300
strong partners, empathetic

4027
01:59:29,300 --> 01:59:31,300
partners, compassionate

4028
01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:33,300
partners, and stewards

4029
01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:35,300
of our foundress, Sister

4030
01:59:35,300 --> 01:59:37,300
Catherine McAuley, and that's

4031
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:38,300
in everything we do at every

4032
01:59:38,300 --> 01:59:39,300
level.

4033
01:59:39,300 --> 01:59:41,300
I'm not sure if I mentioned I'm

4034
01:59:41,300 --> 01:59:43,300
now a board member and I take

4035
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:45,300
that very seriously.

4036
01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:46,300
So thank you for your

4037
01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:47,300
consideration.

4038
01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:48,300
I really hope you take it to

4039
01:59:48,300 --> 01:59:50,300
heart and you understand that

4040
01:59:50,300 --> 01:59:52,300
our hope is to, like Natalie

4041
01:59:52,300 --> 01:59:55,300
said, is to be active stewards

4042
01:59:55,300 --> 01:59:57,300
of community.

4043
01:59:57,300 --> 01:59:58,300
And when anyone needs us,

4044
01:59:58,300 --> 01:59:59,300
we're available

4045
01:59:59,300 --> 02:00:00,300
to provide that space.

4046
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:02,300
Thank you.

4047
02:00:02,300 --> 02:00:04,300
you. Thank you Ms.

4048
02:00:04,300 --> 02:00:06,300
Lechneidner. Sandy Comarado.

4049
02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:12,300
Mayor, while Ms. Comarado is

4050
02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:13,300
on her way up, I'd just like

4051
02:00:13,300 --> 02:00:14,300
to acknowledge that by 4 p.m.

4052
02:00:14,300 --> 02:00:16,300
today we did receive a little

4053
02:00:16,300 --> 02:00:18,300
over 60 emails that the council

4054
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:20,300
had time

4055
02:00:20,300 --> 02:00:21,300
to review and that were placed

4056
02:00:21,300 --> 02:00:22,300
in the back of the room also

4057
02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:24,300
on our website.

4058
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:27,300
Thank you for that reminder.

4059
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:29,300
Madam Clerk, yes there were 78

4060
02:00:29,300 --> 02:00:31,300
pages and we went

4061
02:00:31,300 --> 02:00:34,300
through those so thank you.

4062
02:00:34,300 --> 02:00:36,300
Dear Mayor Stianson and City

4063
02:00:36,300 --> 02:00:37,300
Council, I've been a proud

4064
02:00:37,300 --> 02:00:38,300
resident of Burlingame since

4065
02:00:38,300 --> 02:00:40,300
1972. During my time here I've

4066
02:00:40,300 --> 02:00:42,300
attended Our Lady of Angels and

4067
02:00:42,300 --> 02:00:44,300
Notre Dame High School while

4068
02:00:44,300 --> 02:00:46,300
living in this wonderful city.

4069
02:00:46,300 --> 02:00:47,300
I served as a member of the

4070
02:00:47,300 --> 02:00:48,300
Planning Commission for the

4071
02:00:48,300 --> 02:00:50,300
last eight years and my husband

4072
02:00:50,300 --> 02:00:51,300
and I have constantly

4073
02:00:51,300 --> 02:00:53,300
contributed to the community

4074
02:00:53,300 --> 02:00:56,300
in various ways. We deeply

4075
02:00:56,300 --> 02:00:58,300
value Burlingame and its

4076
02:00:58,300 --> 02:00:59,300
neighborhoods having lived

4077
02:00:59,300 --> 02:01:00,300
in different areas

4078
02:01:00,300 --> 02:01:01,300
of the city including

4079
02:01:01,300 --> 02:01:02,300
across the street from Our

4080
02:01:02,300 --> 02:01:04,300
Lady of Angels. We understand

4081
02:01:04,300 --> 02:01:05,300
the impact of traffic

4082
02:01:05,300 --> 02:01:06,300
in the area

4083
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:07,300
but we embraced it as part

4084
02:01:07,300 --> 02:01:08,300
of our community. Our children

4085
02:01:08,300 --> 02:01:10,403
attended OLA, Sarah, Notre

4086
02:01:11,300 --> 02:01:12,300
Dame and we served as booster

4087
02:01:12,300 --> 02:01:14,300
presidents at Notre Dame High

4088
02:01:14,300 --> 02:01:15,300
School supporting the school

4089
02:01:15,300 --> 02:01:17,300
and its students. All our

4090
02:01:17,300 --> 02:01:18,300
children went to play,

4091
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:20,300
all our children went on

4092
02:01:20,300 --> 02:01:22,300
to play college sports, an

4093
02:01:22,300 --> 02:01:23,300
experience that underscores the

4094
02:01:23,300 --> 02:01:24,300
importance of access

4095
02:01:24,300 --> 02:01:26,300
to facilities like a gym for

4096
02:01:26,300 --> 02:01:28,300
student-athletes. A gymnasium

4097
02:01:29,300 --> 02:01:31,300
is more than a school facility,

4098
02:01:31,300 --> 02:01:32,300
it serves as a hub

4099
02:01:32,300 --> 02:01:33,300
for the community.

4100
02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:35,300
Like a piazza,

4101
02:01:35,300 --> 02:01:36,300
it serves people together

4102
02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:37,300
for sports, assemblies,

4103
02:01:37,300 --> 02:01:38,300
performances and public events.

4104
02:01:38,300 --> 02:01:41,603
When I graduated from OLA in

4105
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:43,300
1981, I chose to attend Notre

4106
02:01:43,300 --> 02:01:45,300
Dame High School partly because

4107
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:47,300
Mercy did not have a gym and I

4108
02:01:47,300 --> 02:01:49,300
like playing basketball. The

4109
02:01:49,300 --> 02:01:52,300
gym at OLA hosted many events

4110
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:54,300
I've cherished, dances,

4111
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:56,300
schools, sports, plays,

4112
02:01:56,300 --> 02:01:58,300
community service

4113
02:01:58,300 --> 02:01:59,300
for the elderly. My husband has

4114
02:01:59,300 --> 02:02:01,300
served on the Board of Mercy

4115
02:02:01,300 --> 02:02:02,300
from 2011 to 2013 but stepped

4116
02:02:02,300 --> 02:02:05,300
down when our daughter began

4117
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:08,300
attending Notre Dame High

4118
02:02:08,300 --> 02:02:09,300
School. Recently there's been a

4119
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:10,300
question about whether I should

4120
02:02:10,300 --> 02:02:12,300
have recused myself

4121
02:02:12,300 --> 02:02:13,300
from a discussion

4122
02:02:13,300 --> 02:02:14,300
about this agenda item from

4123
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:16,300
Michael Brownrigg. As a

4124
02:02:16,300 --> 02:02:17,300
Planning Commissioner, my focus

4125
02:02:17,300 --> 02:02:19,300
is on improving the community.

4126
02:02:19,300 --> 02:02:21,300
I carefully evaluate every

4127
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:22,300
single project in front

4128
02:02:22,300 --> 02:02:24,300
of me, supporting some and

4129
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:26,300
opposing others based on their

4130
02:02:26,300 --> 02:02:29,300
merits and the impact. I have

4131
02:02:29,300 --> 02:02:30,300
no vested interest in this

4132
02:02:30,300 --> 02:02:31,300
decision and derive no personal

4133
02:02:31,300 --> 02:02:33,300
benefit from it. I want to

4134
02:02:33,300 --> 02:02:34,300
acknowledge the positive role

4135
02:02:34,300 --> 02:02:36,300
Mercy has played

4136
02:02:36,300 --> 02:02:37,300
in our neighborhood

4137
02:02:37,300 --> 02:02:40,300
over the last years. Thank you,

4138
02:02:40,300 --> 02:02:42,403
Mr. Camarado. Brett Thiel.

4139
02:02:50,300 --> 02:02:52,300
Good evening. I'm Brett Thiel

4140
02:02:52,300 --> 02:02:53,300
and my wife Valerie and I have

4141
02:02:53,300 --> 02:02:54,300
lived on Alvarado for over 20

4142
02:02:54,300 --> 02:02:57,300
years. I'd like to start by

4143
02:02:57,300 --> 02:02:58,300
addressing an issue that was

4144
02:02:58,300 --> 02:03:01,300
raised by the Mercy staff and

4145
02:03:01,300 --> 02:03:03,300
multiple Mercy students

4146
02:03:03,300 --> 02:03:04,300
at the October 15th planning

4147
02:03:04,300 --> 02:03:06,300
meeting we attended. The

4148
02:03:06,300 --> 02:03:07,300
assertion that the neighbors

4149
02:03:07,300 --> 02:03:09,300
are against women's sports

4150
02:03:09,300 --> 02:03:11,300
absolutely untrue. While issues

4151
02:03:11,300 --> 02:03:13,300
surrounding DEI

4152
02:03:13,300 --> 02:03:14,300
in the national stage and in

4153
02:03:14,300 --> 02:03:15,300
Washington of late is

4154
02:03:15,300 --> 02:03:17,300
absolutely a concern, however,

4155
02:03:17,300 --> 02:03:19,300
it has never been something

4156
02:03:19,300 --> 02:03:21,300
discussed amongst the neighbors

4157
02:03:21,300 --> 02:03:23,300
and frankly we were all shocked

4158
02:03:23,300 --> 02:03:25,300
that it was brought up. So let

4159
02:03:25,300 --> 02:03:26,300
me be clear,

4160
02:03:26,300 --> 02:03:27,300
the issues we are here

4161
02:03:27,300 --> 02:03:28,300
to discuss are 100% about

4162
02:03:28,300 --> 02:03:29,300
traffic and noise concerns,

4163
02:03:29,300 --> 02:03:32,603
period, full stop. I think it's

4164
02:03:33,300 --> 02:03:35,300
fantastic that the student

4165
02:03:35,300 --> 02:03:37,300
athletes at Mercy are getting

4166
02:03:37,300 --> 02:03:38,300
their own gym and it's well

4167
02:03:38,300 --> 02:03:40,300
overdue. However, any

4168
02:03:40,300 --> 02:03:41,300
implications that the neighbors

4169
02:03:41,300 --> 02:03:43,300
would be more amenable

4170
02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:44,300
to extended hours

4171
02:03:44,300 --> 02:03:45,300
for the gym's usage simply

4172
02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:46,300
based

4173
02:03:46,300 --> 02:03:48,300
on gender is patently false.

4174
02:03:48,300 --> 02:03:50,300
So let's not spend any more

4175
02:03:50,300 --> 02:03:51,300
time on this point as it's

4176
02:03:51,300 --> 02:03:52,300
misleading and distracting from

4177
02:03:52,300 --> 02:03:54,300
the primary concerns the

4178
02:03:54,300 --> 02:03:55,300
neighbors have which are

4179
02:03:55,300 --> 02:03:56,300
about traffic, parking, noise,

4180
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:58,300
and in particular,

4181
02:03:58,300 --> 02:03:59,300
the not-so-upfront approval

4182
02:03:59,300 --> 02:04:00,300
of the gym being able

4183
02:04:00,300 --> 02:04:01,300
to be rented

4184
02:04:01,300 --> 02:04:03,403
for non-school purposes. I'd

4185
02:04:05,300 --> 02:04:06,300
like to share some thoughts

4186
02:04:06,300 --> 02:04:08,300
on the proposed operating hours

4187
02:04:08,300 --> 02:04:09,300
at the planning meeting. The

4188
02:04:09,300 --> 02:04:10,300
Mercy proponents made the case

4189
02:04:10,300 --> 02:04:11,300
that keeping the gym open

4190
02:04:11,300 --> 02:04:13,300
until 10 p.m. made all the

4191
02:04:13,300 --> 02:04:15,300
difference in whether a girl

4192
02:04:15,300 --> 02:04:17,300
would succeed or fail. The two

4193
02:04:17,300 --> 02:04:18,300
primary concerns raised

4194
02:04:18,300 --> 02:04:19,300
in many letters

4195
02:04:19,300 --> 02:04:20,300
at that meeting focused

4196
02:04:20,300 --> 02:04:21,300
on commuting to off-site

4197
02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:22,300
facilities and shared space,

4198
02:04:22,300 --> 02:04:24,300
both

4199
02:04:24,300 --> 02:04:25,300
of which would be eliminated

4200
02:04:25,300 --> 02:04:26,300
with the on-site gym. Assuming

4201
02:04:26,300 --> 02:04:27,300
the gym is open for six hours

4202
02:04:27,300 --> 02:04:28,300
after school each day and is

4203
02:04:28,300 --> 02:04:30,300
solely dedicated

4204
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:32,403
to each season's activities,

4205
02:04:34,300 --> 02:04:36,300
six hours would seem more than

4206
02:04:36,300 --> 02:04:37,300
the sufficient time for

4207
02:04:37,300 --> 02:04:38,300
practice and league games even

4208
02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:39,300
if we are taking into

4209
02:04:39,300 --> 02:04:41,300
consideration multiple sports,

4210
02:04:41,300 --> 02:04:42,300
varsity, and JV schedules,

4211
02:04:42,300 --> 02:04:45,300
which one Mercy student said

4212
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:47,300
typically practice lasts

4213
02:04:47,300 --> 02:04:49,300
around two hours. So I'm

4214
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:50,300
running out of time, but I

4215
02:04:50,300 --> 02:04:52,300
appreciate this and I hope the

4216
02:04:52,300 --> 02:04:53,300
next Kaitlyn Clark or Angel

4217
02:04:53,300 --> 02:04:56,300
Reese comes out of Mercy.

4218
02:04:56,300 --> 02:04:57,300
Thank you, Mr. Teal.

4219
02:04:57,300 --> 02:04:59,300
John Schmidt.

4220
02:05:13,300 --> 02:05:14,300
Good evening, John Schmidt,

4221
02:05:14,300 --> 02:05:16,300
Planning Commissioner, resident

4222
02:05:16,300 --> 02:05:18,300
245 Chapin. I wanted

4223
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:21,300
to just kind of address the

4224
02:05:21,300 --> 02:05:23,300
main thing that we that we ran

4225
02:05:23,300 --> 02:05:25,300
into in our meeting. The third

4226
02:05:25,300 --> 02:05:26,300
party became an issue when we

4227
02:05:26,300 --> 02:05:29,300
started to talk about the

4228
02:05:29,300 --> 02:05:30,300
Aquatic Center that is already

4229
02:05:30,300 --> 02:05:32,300
a third-party renting space

4230
02:05:32,300 --> 02:05:34,300
from them. And then as we

4231
02:05:34,300 --> 02:05:36,300
started to talk

4232
02:05:36,300 --> 02:05:37,300
about conditions

4233
02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:38,300
on how we wanted

4234
02:05:38,300 --> 02:05:39,300
to manage that,

4235
02:05:39,300 --> 02:05:40,300
there was no talk

4236
02:05:40,300 --> 02:05:42,300
of big parties. It was talks

4237
02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:43,300
about aquatics and sports camps

4238
02:05:43,300 --> 02:05:46,603
and the opportunity to use it

4239
02:05:47,300 --> 02:05:48,300
during off hours

4240
02:05:48,300 --> 02:05:50,300
during the summer. It seemed

4241
02:05:50,300 --> 02:05:52,300
kind of random

4242
02:05:52,300 --> 02:05:53,300
to say we're going to pick 20

4243
02:05:53,300 --> 02:05:55,300
events. That's the maximum you

4244
02:05:55,300 --> 02:05:57,300
could do when the school hasn't

4245
02:05:57,300 --> 02:05:58,300
really worked

4246
02:05:58,300 --> 02:06:00,300
through the programming. We

4247
02:06:00,300 --> 02:06:01,300
felt that the school has

4248
02:06:01,300 --> 02:06:03,300
restrictions that it has

4249
02:06:03,300 --> 02:06:04,300
on the coal and those events,

4250
02:06:04,300 --> 02:06:07,300
and we felt that they were

4251
02:06:07,300 --> 02:06:09,300
already a good neighbor.

4252
02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:10,300
They're going to manage this

4253
02:06:10,300 --> 02:06:12,403
in a smart way,

4254
02:06:13,300 --> 02:06:15,300
and as has been said earlier,

4255
02:06:15,300 --> 02:06:16,300
the coal mansion is a better

4256
02:06:16,300 --> 02:06:18,300
money maker than trying

4257
02:06:18,300 --> 02:06:19,300
to rent out the gym. So it was

4258
02:06:19,300 --> 02:06:22,603
never our our position to say

4259
02:06:23,300 --> 02:06:25,300
let's make it a party room and

4260
02:06:25,300 --> 02:06:28,300
let's have it go all year long.

4261
02:06:28,300 --> 02:06:30,300
So I think that the idea of how

4262
02:06:30,300 --> 02:06:32,300
much use the gym would get has

4263
02:06:32,300 --> 02:06:35,300
been taken a largely out

4264
02:06:35,300 --> 02:06:36,300
of proportion and

4265
02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:37,300
for what it is we looked at.

4266
02:06:37,300 --> 02:06:39,300
We felt that fewer restrictions

4267
02:06:39,300 --> 02:06:42,300
would give the school a greater

4268
02:06:42,300 --> 02:06:43,300
opportunity

4269
02:06:43,300 --> 02:06:44,300
to use the space effectively

4270
02:06:44,300 --> 02:06:45,300
and for the benefit

4271
02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:46,300
of the community. Thank you.

4272
02:06:46,300 --> 02:06:48,300
Thank you Mr. Schmidt. Peter

4273
02:06:48,300 --> 02:06:50,300
Comaroto.

4274
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:03,300
I don't think we can do that.

4275
02:07:03,300 --> 02:07:04,300
Hey, Bert McCarty, I think

4276
02:07:04,300 --> 02:07:05,300
didn't we drag race

4277
02:07:05,300 --> 02:07:07,300
in high school against each

4278
02:07:07,300 --> 02:07:09,300
other maybe? I don't

4279
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:12,300
like bullies. I stand up

4280
02:07:12,300 --> 02:07:15,300
to bullies and they don't like

4281
02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:17,300
you when I do it. I was going

4282
02:07:17,300 --> 02:07:18,300
to have a different discussion

4283
02:07:18,300 --> 02:07:21,300
tonight and I've changed it.

4284
02:07:21,300 --> 02:07:24,300
So I'm going to outline some

4285
02:07:24,300 --> 02:07:26,300
other talking points because I

4286
02:07:26,300 --> 02:07:27,300
think we're all pretty civil

4287
02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:29,300
here. You don't need

4288
02:07:29,300 --> 02:07:30,300
to see my bully

4289
02:07:30,300 --> 02:07:32,403
against bully come out.

4290
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:40,300
When you buy a house,

4291
02:07:40,300 --> 02:07:42,300
by the way my wife has sold

4292
02:07:42,300 --> 02:07:43,300
over a billion dollars

4293
02:07:43,300 --> 02:07:46,603
of real estate. Billion. A lot.

4294
02:07:49,300 --> 02:07:51,300
When you buy a house that's

4295
02:07:51,300 --> 02:07:52,300
near a school,

4296
02:07:52,300 --> 02:07:53,300
there's gonna be noise.

4297
02:07:53,300 --> 02:07:55,300
There's gonna be traffic. I'm

4298
02:07:55,300 --> 02:07:56,300
not upset at you being upset. I

4299
02:07:56,300 --> 02:07:59,300
get that. I get it.

4300
02:07:59,300 --> 02:08:00,300
But you bought a house

4301
02:08:00,300 --> 02:08:03,300
near a school. The school's

4302
02:08:03,300 --> 02:08:05,300
gonna grow. It's gonna create

4303
02:08:05,300 --> 02:08:08,300
some more noise over time.

4304
02:08:08,300 --> 02:08:09,300
Behind every well-organized

4305
02:08:09,300 --> 02:08:11,403
opposition there's a ringleader

4306
02:08:12,300 --> 02:08:14,300
or a group. Michael

4307
02:08:14,300 --> 02:08:15,300
Brownrigg sat

4308
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:16,300
on planning commission

4309
02:08:16,300 --> 02:08:17,300
for eight years. He's also been

4310
02:08:17,300 --> 02:08:19,403
a councilperson for 14 years.

4311
02:08:25,300 --> 02:08:28,300
I'd like the legal counsel

4312
02:08:28,300 --> 02:08:30,300
for the city to look at the

4313
02:08:30,300 --> 02:08:32,300
jurisdictional rules that apply

4314
02:08:32,300 --> 02:08:34,300
to a member of council

4315
02:08:34,300 --> 02:08:35,300
for accusing himself to not

4316
02:08:35,300 --> 02:08:37,300
leaving chambers and then

4317
02:08:37,300 --> 02:08:38,300
speaking as a private citizen

4318
02:08:38,300 --> 02:08:40,300
as the previous speaker said,

4319
02:08:40,300 --> 02:08:43,300
optics are important. Maybe the

4320
02:08:43,300 --> 02:08:44,300
rules allow for it, but there

4321
02:08:44,300 --> 02:08:47,300
are ethical concerns and I'd

4322
02:08:49,300 --> 02:08:50,300
like you to send

4323
02:08:50,300 --> 02:08:51,300
out those rules to me and

4324
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:53,300
to the community please.

4325
02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:55,403
That's an official request.

4326
02:09:03,300 --> 02:09:04,300
I think that's where I'm going

4327
02:09:04,300 --> 02:09:06,300
to stop. Thank you. Thank you

4328
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:08,403
Mr. Camarado. Joe Nesbitt.

4329
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:25,300
Hey Mr. Mayor. Pleasure

4330
02:09:25,300 --> 02:09:26,300
to meet you. The only other

4331
02:09:26,300 --> 02:09:27,300
mayor I ever met at

4332
02:09:27,300 --> 02:09:28,300
Burlingame. She came

4333
02:09:28,300 --> 02:09:29,300
to the house

4334
02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:30,300
for a re-election time so I got

4335
02:09:30,300 --> 02:09:31,300
to meet her

4336
02:09:31,300 --> 02:09:32,300
at the time so it's a pleasure

4337
02:09:32,300 --> 02:09:33,300
to meet you and the council

4338
02:09:33,300 --> 02:09:35,300
members. Real quickly,

4339
02:09:35,300 --> 02:09:38,300
I'm a neighbor. I'm not part of

4340
02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:39,300
this big neighbor group. I

4341
02:09:39,300 --> 02:09:41,300
don't even know if it's a big

4342
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:42,300
neighbor group. I'm just a guy

4343
02:09:42,300 --> 02:09:43,300
that lives on Adeline Drive

4344
02:09:43,300 --> 02:09:44,300
right across from Mercy High

4345
02:09:44,300 --> 02:09:46,300
School and they have been

4346
02:09:46,300 --> 02:09:49,300
incredible neighbors and I have

4347
02:09:49,300 --> 02:09:52,300
this nightmare. I'll wake up

4348
02:09:53,300 --> 02:09:55,300
and I'll see this big billboard

4349
02:09:55,300 --> 02:09:56,300
across from my house and it'll

4350
02:09:56,300 --> 02:09:58,300
say coming soon, Cole Mansion

4351
02:09:58,300 --> 02:10:01,300
condos and apartments and it

4352
02:10:01,300 --> 02:10:03,300
just scares me and then I think

4353
02:10:03,300 --> 02:10:06,300
of Mercy High School and how

4354
02:10:06,300 --> 02:10:08,300
well they're run and how well

4355
02:10:08,300 --> 02:10:09,300
they should stay on forever and

4356
02:10:09,300 --> 02:10:11,300
ever and that's why I'm telling

4357
02:10:11,300 --> 02:10:12,300
you all to try not

4358
02:10:12,300 --> 02:10:13,300
to put any restrictions

4359
02:10:13,300 --> 02:10:14,300
on these guys. They have been

4360
02:10:14,300 --> 02:10:16,300
incredible neighbors.

4361
02:10:16,300 --> 02:10:18,300
The girls are friendly. The

4362
02:10:18,300 --> 02:10:20,300
management is friendly.

4363
02:10:20,300 --> 02:10:22,300
They're always looking out

4364
02:10:22,300 --> 02:10:24,300
for the neighbors. They are not

4365
02:10:24,300 --> 02:10:26,300
going to abuse of privilege.

4366
02:10:26,300 --> 02:10:27,300
They're putting 25, 26, 27

4367
02:10:27,300 --> 02:10:28,300
million dollars

4368
02:10:28,300 --> 02:10:30,300
of their own money to improve

4369
02:10:30,300 --> 02:10:32,300
that property and we're trying

4370
02:10:32,300 --> 02:10:35,300
to tie their hands. They're not

4371
02:10:35,300 --> 02:10:36,300
going to do something silly and

4372
02:10:36,300 --> 02:10:39,300
stupid. I would say let this

4373
02:10:39,300 --> 02:10:40,300
gym be built. Put some

4374
02:10:40,300 --> 02:10:42,300
restrictions 10 p.m.

4375
02:10:43,300 --> 02:10:44,300
but third-party rentals,

4376
02:10:44,300 --> 02:10:45,300
they got to be able

4377
02:10:45,300 --> 02:10:46,300
to do that. I mean a Catholic

4378
02:10:46,300 --> 02:10:47,300
school needs money

4379
02:10:47,300 --> 02:10:49,300
to exist and to continue to

4380
02:10:49,300 --> 02:10:50,300
thrive and that's a moneymaker

4381
02:10:50,300 --> 02:10:52,300
for them just like the Cole

4382
02:10:52,300 --> 02:10:54,300
Mansion is and they're not

4383
02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:55,300
going to abuse it because

4384
02:10:55,300 --> 02:10:56,300
of the Cole Mansion and you've

4385
02:10:56,300 --> 02:10:58,300
got a traffic department that

4386
02:10:58,300 --> 02:10:59,300
is outstanding. They will find

4387
02:10:59,300 --> 02:11:01,300
out solutions. I sympathize

4388
02:11:01,300 --> 02:11:03,300
with the neighbors on El

4389
02:11:03,300 --> 02:11:04,300
Dorado. It's worse than

4390
02:11:04,300 --> 02:11:06,300
Adeline but there's got

4391
02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:08,300
to be solutions for that and

4392
02:11:08,300 --> 02:11:10,300
they'll find those solutions

4393
02:11:10,300 --> 02:11:11,300
and one last thing,

4394
02:11:11,300 --> 02:11:12,300
I think the Planning

4395
02:11:12,300 --> 02:11:13,300
Commission did a great job. I

4396
02:11:13,300 --> 02:11:14,300
was here

4397
02:11:14,300 --> 02:11:15,300
at both meetings that went well

4398
02:11:15,300 --> 02:11:17,300
into the night and they were

4399
02:11:17,300 --> 02:11:19,300
very respectful, asked a lot

4400
02:11:19,300 --> 02:11:20,300
of questions,

4401
02:11:20,300 --> 02:11:21,300
read every email. Those are

4402
02:11:21,300 --> 02:11:24,300
good people. Thank you. Thank

4403
02:11:24,300 --> 02:11:26,300
You, Mr. Nesbitt.

4404
02:11:28,300 --> 02:11:30,300
Penny Alexander.

4405
02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:43,300
Good evening. Thank you

4406
02:11:43,300 --> 02:11:45,300
for your time. Appreciate your

4407
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:47,300
support. I'm Penny Alexander,

4408
02:11:47,300 --> 02:11:50,300
an alumni of the class of 1978

4409
02:11:50,300 --> 02:11:51,300
from Mercy High School and I'm

4410
02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:53,300
the chair of the Board of

4411
02:11:53,300 --> 02:11:55,300
Directors. I had not intended

4412
02:11:55,300 --> 02:11:57,300
to speak tonight. I felt that

4413
02:11:57,300 --> 02:11:58,300
this was going to be important

4414
02:11:58,300 --> 02:11:59,300
for Natalie

4415
02:11:59,300 --> 02:12:00,300
to represent the school,

4416
02:12:00,300 --> 02:12:02,300
to listen to our neighbors who

4417
02:12:02,300 --> 02:12:03,300
we have worked collaboratively

4418
02:12:03,300 --> 02:12:05,300
with over the last year or so

4419
02:12:05,300 --> 02:12:08,300
to listen to their concerns and

4420
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:10,300
come together. When we were

4421
02:12:10,300 --> 02:12:11,300
developing this project and

4422
02:12:11,300 --> 02:12:12,300
I've been involved in this for

4423
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:15,603
over ten years, at that point

4424
02:12:16,300 --> 02:12:17,300
the gymnasium was going to cost

4425
02:12:17,300 --> 02:12:19,300
roughly eight million dollars.

4426
02:12:19,300 --> 02:12:20,300
We are now at a point we are

4427
02:12:20,300 --> 02:12:22,300
over 24 million dollars

4428
02:12:22,300 --> 02:12:26,300
to build this gym. So time is

4429
02:12:26,300 --> 02:12:27,300
of the essence. There's no

4430
02:12:27,300 --> 02:12:28,300
getting around that. When we

4431
02:12:28,300 --> 02:12:30,300
developed this project,

4432
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:31,300
rentals were never part

4433
02:12:31,300 --> 02:12:33,300
of our decision-making

4434
02:12:33,300 --> 02:12:35,300
at that period of time. Simply

4435
02:12:35,300 --> 02:12:37,300
put, we are focused

4436
02:12:37,300 --> 02:12:38,300
on a facility

4437
02:12:38,300 --> 02:12:39,300
for our young girls

4438
02:12:39,300 --> 02:12:40,300
to play sports and to gather

4439
02:12:40,300 --> 02:12:43,603
and have liturgy and the like.

4440
02:12:44,300 --> 02:12:45,300
Having said that,

4441
02:12:45,300 --> 02:12:47,300
we appreciate the Commission's

4442
02:12:47,300 --> 02:12:49,300
recommendations to allow

4443
02:12:49,300 --> 02:12:51,300
for that.

4444
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:52,300
Period. We simply want that

4445
02:12:52,300 --> 02:12:54,403
option. Are we going

4446
02:12:55,300 --> 02:12:56,300
to be irresponsible

4447
02:12:56,300 --> 02:12:57,300
with that?

4448
02:12:57,300 --> 02:12:59,300
Absolutely not. No questions

4449
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:02,300
about that. We do need

4450
02:13:02,300 --> 02:13:03,300
to move forward

4451
02:13:03,300 --> 02:13:05,300
with this gymnasium. We

4452
02:13:05,300 --> 02:13:06,300
appreciate your support. We

4453
02:13:06,300 --> 02:13:08,403
think the Commission did

4454
02:13:09,300 --> 02:13:10,300
tremendous job

4455
02:13:10,300 --> 02:13:11,300
in studying this. Traffic,

4456
02:13:11,300 --> 02:13:14,300
parking, and other studies have

4457
02:13:14,300 --> 02:13:16,300
been going on

4458
02:13:16,300 --> 02:13:17,300
for years now and we don't need

4459
02:13:17,300 --> 02:13:20,300
to relitigate those now. I

4460
02:13:20,300 --> 02:13:22,300
appreciate the concerns that

4461
02:13:22,300 --> 02:13:23,300
the neighbors have. They are

4462
02:13:23,300 --> 02:13:25,300
real. We want to work

4463
02:13:25,300 --> 02:13:27,300
with them going forward. Thank

4464
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:30,300
you so much. Thank you, Ms.

4465
02:13:30,300 --> 02:13:32,403
Alexander. Any other members

4466
02:13:36,300 --> 02:13:37,300
of the public that would like

4467
02:13:37,300 --> 02:13:39,300
to speak and who did not turn

4468
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:42,603
in a yellow card? Okay. Would

4469
02:13:45,300 --> 02:13:48,300
that will close public comment.

4470
02:13:49,300 --> 02:13:50,300
Just personally, I want

4471
02:13:50,300 --> 02:13:51,300
to thank everybody.

4472
02:13:51,300 --> 02:13:54,300
Obviously, this is a process

4473
02:13:54,300 --> 02:13:55,300
that comes up from time

4474
02:13:55,300 --> 02:13:57,300
to time and I want

4475
02:13:57,300 --> 02:13:59,300
to commend the input.

4476
02:13:59,300 --> 02:14:01,300
Regardless of what side

4477
02:14:01,300 --> 02:14:03,300
of the equation you're on,

4478
02:14:03,300 --> 02:14:05,300
this was part

4479
02:14:05,300 --> 02:14:07,300
of the process that helps us

4480
02:14:07,300 --> 02:14:08,300
from a council perspective,

4481
02:14:08,300 --> 02:14:09,300
from a city perspective,

4482
02:14:09,300 --> 02:14:11,300
hear the voices

4483
02:14:11,300 --> 02:14:14,603
of everybody who is, you know,

4484
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:17,300
close to or interested or has a

4485
02:14:17,300 --> 02:14:19,300
perspective on this. So, I just

4486
02:14:19,300 --> 02:14:20,300
want to thank you

4487
02:14:20,300 --> 02:14:21,300
for that and I thank you for

4488
02:14:21,300 --> 02:14:23,403
your cordial and respectful

4489
02:14:24,300 --> 02:14:26,300
input. That's not always the

4490
02:14:26,300 --> 02:14:27,300
case. So, with that,

4491
02:14:27,300 --> 02:14:30,300
we're going to be moved

4492
02:14:30,300 --> 02:14:31,300
to the next part

4493
02:14:31,300 --> 02:14:32,300
of the process,

4494
02:14:32,300 --> 02:14:34,300
which is the appellant

4495
02:14:34,300 --> 02:14:36,300
rebuttal. So, Mr. Brownrigg,

4496
02:14:36,300 --> 02:14:38,300
you now can provide a rebuttal

4497
02:14:38,300 --> 02:14:40,403
statement on final thoughts.

4498
02:14:41,300 --> 02:14:42,300
City Clerk, please set

4499
02:14:42,300 --> 02:14:44,300
for five minutes.

4500
02:14:44,300 --> 02:14:46,300
Thanks very much. I want

4501
02:14:46,300 --> 02:14:47,300
to start with an apology to

4502
02:14:47,300 --> 02:14:48,300
Sandy Camerado, who's a fine

4503
02:14:48,300 --> 02:14:50,300
public servant. Lynn asked me

4504
02:14:50,300 --> 02:14:52,300
to wrap up. You know,

4505
02:14:52,300 --> 02:14:54,300
I think you've heard a lot of

4506
02:14:54,300 --> 02:14:55,300
testimony tonight and it's

4507
02:14:55,300 --> 02:14:56,300
really up to you to make some

4508
02:14:56,300 --> 02:14:58,300
decisions. I would say that if

4509
02:14:58,300 --> 02:14:59,300
one of the conditions

4510
02:14:59,300 --> 02:15:00,300
of approval could be that

4511
02:15:00,300 --> 02:15:02,300
Natalie Brosen was the

4512
02:15:02,300 --> 02:15:03,300
perpetual head of school, I

4513
02:15:03,300 --> 02:15:04,300
think the whole neighborhood

4514
02:15:04,300 --> 02:15:06,300
would feel a lot better. That

4515
02:15:06,300 --> 02:15:09,300
isn't the case, obviously. The

4516
02:15:09,300 --> 02:15:10,300
staff report does a really good

4517
02:15:10,300 --> 02:15:12,300
job of talking about all of the

4518
02:15:12,300 --> 02:15:14,300
issues that are not third-party

4519
02:15:14,300 --> 02:15:16,300
rentals, so I don't, and very

4520
02:15:16,300 --> 02:15:18,300
clearly explains why they are

4521
02:15:18,300 --> 02:15:20,300
either taken care of or

4522
02:15:20,300 --> 02:15:21,300
in the plans, etc.

4523
02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:23,300
So, I don't think that's really

4524
02:15:23,300 --> 02:15:24,300
the issue. I think it's just

4525
02:15:24,300 --> 02:15:26,300
about third-party rentals,

4526
02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:28,300
which was acknowledged was not

4527
02:15:28,300 --> 02:15:31,300
part of the plan that went

4528
02:15:31,300 --> 02:15:34,300
to the October 15th thing.

4529
02:15:34,300 --> 02:15:35,300
So, the remaining request

4530
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:36,300
by neighbors that I've heard,

4531
02:15:36,300 --> 02:15:38,300
and by the way,

4532
02:15:38,300 --> 02:15:39,300
no matter what anyone thinks,

4533
02:15:39,300 --> 02:15:40,300
I'm glad I made this

4534
02:15:40,300 --> 02:15:41,300
opportunity available to the

4535
02:15:41,300 --> 02:15:42,300
neighborhood. I know it's

4536
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:44,300
consumed a few hours

4537
02:15:44,300 --> 02:15:45,300
of our time, but I think it was

4538
02:15:45,300 --> 02:15:46,300
a conversation worth having

4539
02:15:46,300 --> 02:15:48,300
for everybody. Pretty simple

4540
02:15:48,300 --> 02:15:49,300
request,

4541
02:15:49,300 --> 02:15:50,300
which is either adhere

4542
02:15:50,300 --> 02:15:52,300
to the original recommendation

4543
02:15:52,300 --> 02:15:54,300
of staff to not allow

4544
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:55,300
third-party rentals, allow

4545
02:15:55,300 --> 02:15:56,300
Mercy to come back

4546
02:15:56,300 --> 02:15:58,300
in a couple years and say, how

4547
02:15:58,300 --> 02:15:59,300
about it? Let's think about it

4548
02:15:59,300 --> 02:16:01,300
now that we see how much use

4549
02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:02,300
the regular gym gets.

4550
02:16:02,300 --> 02:16:05,300
Or, if you don't want

4551
02:16:05,300 --> 02:16:06,300
to do that, then

4552
02:16:06,300 --> 02:16:07,300
at least put some guardrails

4553
02:16:07,300 --> 02:16:08,300
on third-party rentals. And

4554
02:16:08,300 --> 02:16:10,300
there have been a number

4555
02:16:10,300 --> 02:16:12,300
of different suggestions made.

4556
02:16:12,300 --> 02:16:13,300
You could require that the

4557
02:16:13,300 --> 02:16:14,300
third-party rentals be done

4558
02:16:14,300 --> 02:16:15,300
earlier in the evening, say 8

4559
02:16:15,300 --> 02:16:17,300
p.m.

4560
02:16:17,300 --> 02:16:18,300
You could limit them to the

4561
02:16:18,300 --> 02:16:20,300
summertime. You could limit

4562
02:16:20,300 --> 02:16:21,300
them to sports uses and not

4563
02:16:21,300 --> 02:16:22,300
allow just sort of general use

4564
02:16:22,300 --> 02:16:26,300
of the gym. You might come up

4565
02:16:26,300 --> 02:16:28,300
with other limitations. You

4566
02:16:28,300 --> 02:16:30,300
might have a consultation

4567
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:32,300
provision that was

4568
02:16:32,300 --> 02:16:34,300
in a way recommended by

4569
02:16:34,300 --> 02:16:35,300
Mayor, former Mayor Keegran,

4570
02:16:35,300 --> 02:16:36,300
you know,

4571
02:16:36,300 --> 02:16:37,300
where you have a requirement

4572
02:16:37,300 --> 02:16:40,300
to consult. I think the issue

4573
02:16:40,300 --> 02:16:41,300
with just trusting that it will

4574
02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:42,300
all be okay, the challenge is

4575
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:44,300
this is the one chance the city

4576
02:16:44,300 --> 02:16:45,300
has

4577
02:16:45,300 --> 02:16:48,300
to affect an actual provision

4578
02:16:49,300 --> 02:16:50,300
for either consultation or

4579
02:16:50,300 --> 02:16:52,300
limits. There's no reason

4580
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:54,300
afterwards, and that's why

4581
02:16:54,300 --> 02:16:55,300
Cole Mansion has the limits it

4582
02:16:55,300 --> 02:16:58,300
does, because the Cole needed

4583
02:16:58,300 --> 02:17:01,300
permits back in 2007. So this

4584
02:17:02,300 --> 02:17:04,300
is the chance. If you need to,

4585
02:17:04,300 --> 02:17:05,300
if you decide

4586
02:17:05,300 --> 02:17:06,300
to make an amendment, you have

4587
02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:08,300
to have a finding. It seems

4588
02:17:08,300 --> 02:17:09,300
to me it's pretty simple

4589
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:10,300
to justify a finding based on

4590
02:17:10,300 --> 02:17:11,300
the conditional use permit

4591
02:17:11,300 --> 02:17:12,300
conditions for, you know,

4592
02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:13,300
improving public health,

4593
02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:15,300
safety, general welfare,

4594
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:16,300
or convenience

4595
02:17:16,300 --> 02:17:17,300
for your residents. You've

4596
02:17:17,300 --> 02:17:18,300
heard a lot

4597
02:17:18,300 --> 02:17:19,300
of testimony tonight

4598
02:17:19,300 --> 02:17:21,300
about the convenience of not

4599
02:17:21,300 --> 02:17:23,403
having more traffic. I

4600
02:17:24,300 --> 02:17:25,300
appreciate the city has stepped

4601
02:17:25,300 --> 02:17:27,300
up with respect to Alvarado and

4602
02:17:27,300 --> 02:17:28,300
Adeline to put

4603
02:17:28,300 --> 02:17:30,300
in some speed controls,

4604
02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:31,300
but you've heard from a number

4605
02:17:31,300 --> 02:17:32,300
of Alvarado residents it's

4606
02:17:32,300 --> 02:17:35,300
still a real mess, and every

4607
02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:37,300
incremental car that goes

4608
02:17:37,300 --> 02:17:40,300
on that street is tough,

4609
02:17:40,300 --> 02:17:43,300
really tough. So I appreciate

4610
02:17:43,300 --> 02:17:44,300
you guys taking the time

4611
02:17:44,300 --> 02:17:45,300
tonight to consider this. I

4612
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:46,300
appreciate listening to the

4613
02:17:46,300 --> 02:17:47,300
neighbors. I appreciate all the

4614
02:17:47,300 --> 02:17:48,300
points

4615
02:17:48,300 --> 02:17:50,300
of view expressed tonight,

4616
02:17:50,300 --> 02:17:52,300
plus and minus. The rest is up

4617
02:17:52,300 --> 02:17:55,300
to you. Thank you. Any

4618
02:17:56,300 --> 02:17:58,300
questions regarding the

4619
02:17:58,300 --> 02:18:00,300
rebuttal from Mr. Brownrigg and

4620
02:18:00,300 --> 02:18:02,300
the appellant?

4621
02:18:09,300 --> 02:18:10,300
Seeing none, we'll move on

4622
02:18:10,300 --> 02:18:12,403
to the applicant rebuttal.

4623
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:27,300
Hi, we want to thank all

4624
02:18:27,300 --> 02:18:28,300
of our neighbors

4625
02:18:28,300 --> 02:18:29,300
for supporting the rally that

4626
02:18:29,300 --> 02:18:31,300
Mercy needs a gym. I just want

4627
02:18:31,300 --> 02:18:33,300
to acknowledge that if bringing

4628
02:18:33,300 --> 02:18:35,300
up the issue of equity in the

4629
02:18:35,300 --> 02:18:37,300
previous relationship felt

4630
02:18:37,300 --> 02:18:38,300
wrong to any neighbors,

4631
02:18:38,300 --> 02:18:39,300
please know it had nothing

4632
02:18:39,300 --> 02:18:40,300
to do with you. It's the

4633
02:18:40,300 --> 02:18:41,300
reality of our situation. We

4634
02:18:41,300 --> 02:18:42,300
are firm believers.

4635
02:18:42,300 --> 02:18:43,300
If Mercy had a boys, the gym

4636
02:18:43,300 --> 02:18:44,300
would have been built decades

4637
02:18:44,300 --> 02:18:45,300
ago,

4638
02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:46,300
and if the gym was built

4639
02:18:46,300 --> 02:18:47,300
decades ago,

4640
02:18:47,300 --> 02:18:48,300
this wouldn't be up

4641
02:18:48,300 --> 02:18:49,300
for discussion. So for us,

4642
02:18:49,300 --> 02:18:51,300
it always turns to equity. I

4643
02:18:51,300 --> 02:18:53,300
know there was a comment made

4644
02:18:53,300 --> 02:18:54,300
that we've received

4645
02:18:54,300 --> 02:18:55,300
preferential treatment. ICS is

4646
02:18:55,300 --> 02:18:56,300
receiving the same treatment as

4647
02:18:56,300 --> 02:18:57,300
other schools, which is

4648
02:18:57,300 --> 02:18:59,300
equitable and fair. I know

4649
02:18:59,300 --> 02:19:02,300
there was a point brought up

4650
02:19:02,300 --> 02:19:03,300
that we should have law

4651
02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:04,300
enforcement. We do have

4652
02:19:04,300 --> 02:19:07,300
security on campus. We did have

4653
02:19:07,300 --> 02:19:09,300
games, water polo games and

4654
02:19:09,300 --> 02:19:10,300
tennis matches and swim meets

4655
02:19:10,300 --> 02:19:11,300
for decades at Mercy before

4656
02:19:11,300 --> 02:19:13,300
sport regulations changed.

4657
02:19:14,300 --> 02:19:16,300
Never once to my knowledge did

4658
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:17,300
we have any concerns,

4659
02:19:17,300 --> 02:19:18,300
and I was a coach

4660
02:19:18,300 --> 02:19:19,300
at that time. We also have

4661
02:19:19,300 --> 02:19:21,300
facilities on campus from 5 6

4662
02:19:21,300 --> 02:19:22,300
a.m.

4663
02:19:22,300 --> 02:19:23,300
to 11 p.m. taking care of our

4664
02:19:23,300 --> 02:19:25,300
campus. I want to clarify the

4665
02:19:25,300 --> 02:19:26,300
gym project does not depend

4666
02:19:26,300 --> 02:19:29,300
on Sister Mercy parking. That

4667
02:19:29,300 --> 02:19:30,300
data is present in the

4668
02:19:30,300 --> 02:19:32,300
Commission notes from the

4669
02:19:32,300 --> 02:19:34,300
October meeting. While we do

4670
02:19:34,300 --> 02:19:35,300
use overflow parking,

4671
02:19:35,300 --> 02:19:36,300
it's used

4672
02:19:36,300 --> 02:19:37,300
for back-to- school night,

4673
02:19:37,300 --> 02:19:38,300
Christmas at Cole open house.

4674
02:19:38,300 --> 02:19:39,300
We have plenty of parking,

4675
02:19:39,300 --> 02:19:41,300
and we've had the data

4676
02:19:41,300 --> 02:19:43,300
to prove it. Traffic and noise

4677
02:19:43,300 --> 02:19:45,300
concerns I know continue

4678
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:46,300
to be an issue,

4679
02:19:46,300 --> 02:19:47,300
and it's an issue that we share

4680
02:19:47,300 --> 02:19:48,300
with neighbors and want

4681
02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:49,300
to support. We do everything we

4682
02:19:49,300 --> 02:19:50,300
can from a noise standpoint

4683
02:19:50,300 --> 02:19:52,403
to support our neighbor

4684
02:19:53,300 --> 02:19:54,300
in terms of traffic. Again, I

4685
02:19:54,300 --> 02:19:55,300
know there are multiple schools

4686
02:19:55,300 --> 02:19:56,300
in our area. There have been

4687
02:19:56,300 --> 02:19:57,300
opportunities and

4688
02:19:57,300 --> 02:19:59,300
recommendations that were

4689
02:19:59,300 --> 02:20:00,300
brought up at the calming

4690
02:20:00,300 --> 02:20:01,300
traffic committee, and for the

4691
02:20:01,300 --> 02:20:04,603
neighbors we did not support it

4692
02:20:05,300 --> 02:20:06,300
because we wanted to ensure

4693
02:20:06,300 --> 02:20:08,300
that they had what they wanted,

4694
02:20:08,300 --> 02:20:10,300
but we do know that there are

4695
02:20:10,300 --> 02:20:11,300
other opportunities that have

4696
02:20:11,300 --> 02:20:13,300
yet to be explored that could

4697
02:20:13,300 --> 02:20:14,300
support park traffic concerns

4698
02:20:14,300 --> 02:20:16,403
specifically. I appreciate all

4699
02:20:17,300 --> 02:20:19,300
the kind words said

4700
02:20:19,300 --> 02:20:20,300
about my leadership,

4701
02:20:20,300 --> 02:20:21,300
and I want

4702
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:22,300
to acknowledge that the Board

4703
02:20:22,300 --> 02:20:23,300
of Directors and the Sisters

4704
02:20:23,300 --> 02:20:24,300
of Mercy have very clear

4705
02:20:24,300 --> 02:20:25,300
expectations for the head

4706
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:26,300
of school position, and that

4707
02:20:26,300 --> 02:20:28,300
the board has long-term best

4708
02:20:28,300 --> 02:20:30,300
practices built into bylaws so

4709
02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:32,300
that the neighbor relations are

4710
02:20:32,300 --> 02:20:34,300
important. In fact, it is part

4711
02:20:34,300 --> 02:20:36,300
of my annual review, that's how

4712
02:20:36,300 --> 02:20:37,300
much external stakeholders

4713
02:20:37,300 --> 02:20:39,300
matter to Mercy, and that would

4714
02:20:39,300 --> 02:20:40,300
be the same as any head

4715
02:20:40,300 --> 02:20:41,300
of school moving forward at

4716
02:20:41,300 --> 02:20:43,403
Mercy High School. All

4717
02:20:44,300 --> 02:20:46,300
neighbors do have access

4718
02:20:46,300 --> 02:20:47,300
to a call line for the Mercy

4719
02:20:47,300 --> 02:20:48,300
property, as well have access

4720
02:20:48,300 --> 02:20:50,300
to my personal cell phone

4721
02:20:50,300 --> 02:20:51,300
number, which some have texted

4722
02:20:51,300 --> 02:20:52,300
at times, and then whenever

4723
02:20:52,300 --> 02:20:53,300
there's a concern of noise, we

4724
02:20:53,300 --> 02:20:55,300
immediately call and do a noise

4725
02:20:55,300 --> 02:20:57,300
check, and

4726
02:20:57,300 --> 02:20:58,300
for the most part we all are

4727
02:20:58,300 --> 02:20:59,300
within the noise parameters,

4728
02:20:59,300 --> 02:21:00,300
and if there's any change,

4729
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:03,300
we shift it immediately. One

4730
02:21:03,300 --> 02:21:05,300
thing that has been left out of

4731
02:21:05,300 --> 02:21:06,300
this entire conversation is

4732
02:21:06,300 --> 02:21:07,300
respect

4733
02:21:07,300 --> 02:21:08,300
for professional judgment.

4734
02:21:08,300 --> 02:21:09,300
In every role, we respect the

4735
02:21:09,300 --> 02:21:10,300
professionalism,

4736
02:21:10,300 --> 02:21:12,300
and that's no different

4737
02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:14,300
in education. To the best

4738
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:17,300
of our knowledge and research,

4739
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:18,300
there have been no issues

4740
02:21:18,300 --> 02:21:19,300
in our community of Burlingame

4741
02:21:19,300 --> 02:21:21,300
based on poor decision-making

4742
02:21:21,300 --> 02:21:23,300
from leaders on how

4743
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:25,300
to use the gym, and best

4744
02:21:25,300 --> 02:21:27,300
to our knowledge, every school

4745
02:21:27,300 --> 02:21:29,300
in Burlingame has the ability

4746
02:21:29,300 --> 02:21:30,300
to rent out the gym. Whether

4747
02:21:30,300 --> 02:21:31,300
they choose to or not is up

4748
02:21:31,300 --> 02:21:32,300
to them, but their professional

4749
02:21:32,300 --> 02:21:35,300
judgment is given the respect

4750
02:21:35,300 --> 02:21:38,300
that they will not do anything

4751
02:21:38,300 --> 02:21:39,300
to harm the community. We are

4752
02:21:39,300 --> 02:21:41,300
simply asking for the choice

4753
02:21:41,300 --> 02:21:43,300
to use our gym as needed. As

4754
02:21:43,300 --> 02:21:44,300
stewards of Mercy High

4755
02:21:44,300 --> 02:21:45,300
School, that means we're

4756
02:21:45,300 --> 02:21:46,300
steward

4757
02:21:46,300 --> 02:21:47,300
of the present and stewards

4758
02:21:47,300 --> 02:21:48,300
of the future. We do not know

4759
02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:51,300
what the future holds, and to

4760
02:21:51,300 --> 02:21:52,300
Joe's nightmare

4761
02:21:52,300 --> 02:21:53,300
of having signs up for, you

4762
02:21:53,300 --> 02:21:55,300
know, Cole Mansion condos,

4763
02:21:55,300 --> 02:21:57,300
that would be a nightmare

4764
02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:58,300
for the community. Right now,

4765
02:21:58,300 --> 02:22:00,300
this is a historical moment

4766
02:22:00,300 --> 02:22:01,300
for the city of Burlingame,

4767
02:22:01,300 --> 02:22:02,300
whether you recognize it or

4768
02:22:02,300 --> 02:22:03,300
not. I know that there can be

4769
02:22:03,300 --> 02:22:05,300
many different ways that you

4770
02:22:05,300 --> 02:22:06,300
can vote tonight, and the one

4771
02:22:06,300 --> 02:22:09,300
way that you could vote could

4772
02:22:09,300 --> 02:22:10,300
be to completely overturn the

4773
02:22:10,300 --> 02:22:12,300
Planning Commission, and that

4774
02:22:12,300 --> 02:22:13,300
would significantly put our

4775
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:14,300
project at risk because it

4776
02:22:14,300 --> 02:22:16,300
would postpone the project.

4777
02:22:16,300 --> 02:22:17,300
As Penny shared,

4778
02:22:17,300 --> 02:22:18,300
our amount has increased $20

4779
02:22:18,300 --> 02:22:20,300
million.

4780
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:23,300
To postpone this project six to

4781
02:22:23,300 --> 02:22:26,300
twelve months more means that

4782
02:22:26,300 --> 02:22:27,300
we will price ourselves out

4783
02:22:27,300 --> 02:22:29,300
of ever building a gym. There

4784
02:22:29,300 --> 02:22:30,300
is a tipping point

4785
02:22:30,300 --> 02:22:31,300
in private education

4786
02:22:31,300 --> 02:22:32,300
of how much parents are willing

4787
02:22:32,300 --> 02:22:34,300
to pay tuition for a lack

4788
02:22:34,300 --> 02:22:35,300
of facilities. Well, we are

4789
02:22:35,300 --> 02:22:37,300
fine, and I want it documented

4790
02:22:37,300 --> 02:22:38,300
a million times over, we are

4791
02:22:38,300 --> 02:22:39,300
in strong financial state,

4792
02:22:39,300 --> 02:22:41,300
we are nowhere near closure.

4793
02:22:41,300 --> 02:22:43,300
Without facilities, Mercy

4794
02:22:43,300 --> 02:22:45,300
High School will be at risk,

4795
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:47,300
and so I just hope that the

4796
02:22:47,300 --> 02:22:48,300
Council will take a moment

4797
02:22:48,300 --> 02:22:50,300
to pause to really consider

4798
02:22:50,300 --> 02:22:51,300
that because I know

4799
02:22:51,300 --> 02:22:53,300
at the heart, all of us,

4800
02:22:53,300 --> 02:22:54,300
neighbors, Mercy High School,

4801
02:22:54,300 --> 02:22:56,300
City Council, we want what's

4802
02:22:56,300 --> 02:22:57,300
best for the city, and I know

4803
02:22:57,300 --> 02:22:59,300
that we all share the shared

4804
02:22:59,300 --> 02:23:02,300
mission of making sure that our

4805
02:23:02,300 --> 02:23:03,300
community is respected and

4806
02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:05,300
feels the compassion

4807
02:23:05,300 --> 02:23:06,300
from one another

4808
02:23:06,300 --> 02:23:07,300
in our partnership.

4809
02:23:07,300 --> 02:23:08,300
At the heart of this, the

4810
02:23:08,300 --> 02:23:09,300
neighbors and the high school

4811
02:23:09,300 --> 02:23:11,300
want the same thing. They agree

4812
02:23:11,300 --> 02:23:12,300
a gym is essential to Mercy

4813
02:23:12,300 --> 02:23:14,300
High School. I believe the term

4814
02:23:14,300 --> 02:23:16,403
rental and partnerships is

4815
02:23:17,300 --> 02:23:18,300
being confused when we want

4816
02:23:18,300 --> 02:23:19,300
to be able

4817
02:23:19,300 --> 02:23:21,300
to partner and leave Mercy's

4818
02:23:21,300 --> 02:23:22,300
future open for opportunities

4819
02:23:22,300 --> 02:23:23,300
to ensure we are part

4820
02:23:23,300 --> 02:23:24,300
of the history of Burlingame

4821
02:23:24,300 --> 02:23:27,300
forever. Thank you. Thank you.

4822
02:23:31,300 --> 02:23:33,300
So, are there any questions

4823
02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:36,603
for the applicant on the dais

4824
02:23:38,300 --> 02:23:41,603
that we have not covered yet?

4825
02:23:43,300 --> 02:23:45,300
Okay, with that,

4826
02:23:45,300 --> 02:23:48,300
we'll close the public hearing.

4827
02:23:49,300 --> 02:23:50,300
Now is our point

4828
02:23:50,300 --> 02:23:52,300
for deliberation and decision.

4829
02:23:52,300 --> 02:23:53,300
Council members,

4830
02:23:53,300 --> 02:23:54,300
we are now going to discuss and

4831
02:23:54,300 --> 02:23:55,300
deliberate upon this matter and

4832
02:23:55,300 --> 02:23:56,300
make our decision. Pursuant

4833
02:23:56,300 --> 02:23:59,603
to BMC 25.98.030D, we may take

4834
02:24:02,300 --> 02:24:04,403
the following actions related

4835
02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:06,300
to the Planning Commission

4836
02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:08,300
approval. 1. Affirm. 2. Affirm

4837
02:24:11,300 --> 02:24:14,300
in part. 3. Reverse any action,

4838
02:24:14,300 --> 02:24:16,300
determination, or decision

4839
02:24:16,300 --> 02:24:17,300
of the Planning Commission. Or

4840
02:24:17,300 --> 02:24:19,300
finally, 4. Adopt additional

4841
02:24:20,300 --> 02:24:22,403
conditions of approval which

4842
02:24:23,300 --> 02:24:24,300
may address issues of concern

4843
02:24:24,300 --> 02:24:26,403
or other issues related

4844
02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:29,300
to and or other than the

4845
02:24:29,300 --> 02:24:32,300
subject of the appeal. So, our

4846
02:24:32,300 --> 02:24:34,300
decision must be based

4847
02:24:34,300 --> 02:24:35,300
on the finding of facts

4848
02:24:35,300 --> 02:24:37,300
of this specific application

4849
02:24:37,300 --> 02:24:38,300
and with that,

4850
02:24:38,300 --> 02:24:41,300
I'll request each of us

4851
02:24:41,300 --> 02:24:42,300
to begin the deliberation.

4852
02:24:42,300 --> 02:24:45,603
So, would you like to start?

4853
02:24:46,300 --> 02:24:48,300
Mayor Stevenson, may I ask a

4854
02:24:48,300 --> 02:24:49,300
clarifying question or is that

4855
02:24:49,300 --> 02:24:50,300
passed now for the staff?

4856
02:24:50,300 --> 02:24:53,300
Her staff is okay. Yeah, you

4857
02:24:53,300 --> 02:24:56,300
can. Go ahead, Council Member

4858
02:24:56,300 --> 02:24:57,300
Pappajohn. Thank you, Mayor

4859
02:24:57,300 --> 02:24:59,300
Stevenson. So, I may have asked

4860
02:24:59,300 --> 02:25:01,300
this question but I just need

4861
02:25:01,300 --> 02:25:03,300
to get this correct. May I ask

4862
02:25:03,300 --> 02:25:06,300
Ms. LeWitt a quick question?

4863
02:25:07,300 --> 02:25:08,300
My understanding is the City

4864
02:25:08,300 --> 02:25:09,300
commissioned a traffic study

4865
02:25:09,300 --> 02:25:12,603
even if there were rentals and

4866
02:25:13,300 --> 02:25:14,300
that there was no significant

4867
02:25:14,300 --> 02:25:16,300
impacts. Is that correct? The

4868
02:25:16,300 --> 02:25:18,403
applicant submitted a traffic

4869
02:25:20,300 --> 02:25:22,300
and a circulation study

4870
02:25:22,300 --> 02:25:23,300
prepared by a third-party

4871
02:25:23,300 --> 02:25:25,403
traffic consultant that looked

4872
02:25:26,300 --> 02:25:28,300
at the proposal which was

4873
02:25:28,300 --> 02:25:30,300
primarily using the gym

4874
02:25:30,300 --> 02:25:33,300
for school activities. It did

4875
02:25:33,300 --> 02:25:35,300
not look at the impact

4876
02:25:35,300 --> 02:25:37,300
of third-party rentals. That's

4877
02:25:37,300 --> 02:25:38,300
correct.

4878
02:25:38,300 --> 02:25:40,300
Okay, thank you very much. A

4879
02:25:40,300 --> 02:25:42,300
follow-up question

4880
02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:43,300
for staff is the dimensions

4881
02:25:43,300 --> 02:25:45,300
of the pool

4882
02:25:45,300 --> 02:25:46,300
in the remodel and the addition

4883
02:25:46,300 --> 02:25:48,300
of the gym, will it make it

4884
02:25:48,300 --> 02:25:50,300
legal dimensions and therefore

4885
02:25:50,300 --> 02:25:51,300
be subject to rental

4886
02:25:51,300 --> 02:25:53,300
for swim meets

4887
02:25:53,300 --> 02:25:56,300
during the weekends? Yes, if

4888
02:25:57,300 --> 02:25:58,300
there's, that's already

4889
02:25:58,300 --> 02:26:00,300
actually I believe happening

4890
02:26:00,300 --> 02:26:03,300
on site. For water polo?

4891
02:26:03,300 --> 02:26:05,300
For water polo.

4892
02:26:05,300 --> 02:26:06,300
But that is existing today?

4893
02:26:06,300 --> 02:26:08,300
The athletic center, the

4894
02:26:08,300 --> 02:26:09,300
project is defined as both the

4895
02:26:09,300 --> 02:26:12,603
gym and the pool. Okay, thank

4896
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:17,300
you. So, moving on

4897
02:26:17,300 --> 02:26:19,300
to deliberations, would you

4898
02:26:19,300 --> 02:26:20,300
like to start Councilmember

4899
02:26:20,300 --> 02:26:22,300
Pappajohn? Sure, I will start.

4900
02:26:22,300 --> 02:26:26,300
Thank you. So, first of all, I

4901
02:26:26,300 --> 02:26:28,300
really appreciate everyone's

4902
02:26:28,300 --> 02:26:29,300
input and comments.

4903
02:26:29,300 --> 02:26:32,300
Clearly, this is, you know,

4904
02:26:33,300 --> 02:26:36,300
very important topic and I just

4905
02:26:36,300 --> 02:26:38,300
appreciate everyone's time that

4906
02:26:38,300 --> 02:26:40,300
they've taken

4907
02:26:40,300 --> 02:26:42,403
to express their opinions.

4908
02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:47,300
So, I'd like to start off

4909
02:26:47,300 --> 02:26:48,300
by saying that, you know,

4910
02:26:48,300 --> 02:26:50,300
I've talked to several people

4911
02:26:50,300 --> 02:26:52,300
and what I have heard is that

4912
02:26:52,300 --> 02:26:54,300
Mercy has always been a great

4913
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:57,300
neighbor, that they have been

4914
02:26:57,300 --> 02:26:59,300
respectful,

4915
02:26:59,300 --> 02:27:01,300
they've done outreach

4916
02:27:01,300 --> 02:27:04,300
to the neighbors, they have,

4917
02:27:04,300 --> 02:27:07,300
you know, they're very, a very

4918
02:27:07,300 --> 02:27:08,300
good community member and they

4919
02:27:08,300 --> 02:27:11,300
are trustworthy. So, I also

4920
02:27:14,300 --> 02:27:17,300
feel that it's very important

4921
02:27:17,300 --> 02:27:19,300
to be consistent

4922
02:27:19,300 --> 02:27:20,300
in policies that we have with

4923
02:27:20,300 --> 02:27:21,300
other schools and treat all our

4924
02:27:21,300 --> 02:27:23,403
schools fairly. And so,

4925
02:27:24,300 --> 02:27:26,403
I would really lean

4926
02:27:28,300 --> 02:27:30,300
toward being consistent to,

4927
02:27:30,300 --> 02:27:33,300
you know, giving Mercy the

4928
02:27:33,300 --> 02:27:35,300
opportunity

4929
02:27:35,300 --> 02:27:37,300
to rent their gym just

4930
02:27:37,300 --> 02:27:39,403
like BHS can. I,

4931
02:27:43,300 --> 02:27:46,300
what I feel is that Mercy is

4932
02:27:46,300 --> 02:27:48,300
going to use the gym

4933
02:27:48,300 --> 02:27:49,300
for their own use, for their

4934
02:27:49,300 --> 02:27:51,300
sports and their assemblies. I

4935
02:27:51,300 --> 02:27:54,300
really don't see them wanting

4936
02:27:55,300 --> 02:27:58,300
to rent it out, you know,

4937
02:27:58,300 --> 02:28:00,300
over and above what their uses

4938
02:28:00,300 --> 02:28:03,300
are and they're, and they want

4939
02:28:03,300 --> 02:28:04,300
to have it also as the

4940
02:28:04,300 --> 02:28:06,300
opportunity to help other

4941
02:28:06,300 --> 02:28:08,403
community members. While I

4942
02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:13,300
acknowledge that there may be

4943
02:28:13,300 --> 02:28:15,300
additional traffic, I do feel

4944
02:28:15,300 --> 02:28:18,300
that we can also continue

4945
02:28:18,300 --> 02:28:20,300
to look at this further

4946
02:28:20,300 --> 02:28:21,300
down the road. If there's

4947
02:28:21,300 --> 02:28:23,300
issues and complaints, then I

4948
02:28:23,300 --> 02:28:25,300
believe those could be

4949
02:28:25,300 --> 02:28:27,300
addressed independently. Thank

4950
02:28:30,300 --> 02:28:31,300
you.

4951
02:28:31,300 --> 02:28:33,300
Thank you. Council Member

4952
02:28:33,300 --> 02:28:36,300
Thayer. Yeah, I also want

4953
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:38,300
to thank everyone for coming

4954
02:28:38,300 --> 02:28:39,300
and providing comment, all the

4955
02:28:39,300 --> 02:28:42,300
neighbors and the students and

4956
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:43,300
everyone

4957
02:28:43,300 --> 02:28:44,300
from the community. I do lean

4958
02:28:44,300 --> 02:28:46,403
into the fact that

4959
02:28:47,300 --> 02:28:48,300
for other schools, we don't

4960
02:28:48,300 --> 02:28:49,300
have these restrictions as well

4961
02:28:49,300 --> 02:28:50,300
placed on them. You know,

4962
02:28:50,300 --> 02:28:51,300
I've been to events at BHS,

4963
02:28:51,300 --> 02:28:53,300
I've been to weekend things

4964
02:28:53,300 --> 02:28:54,300
at Sarah where I've done

4965
02:28:54,300 --> 02:28:57,300
training, and so I do look

4966
02:28:57,300 --> 02:29:00,300
at it from an equity lens. I do

4967
02:29:00,300 --> 02:29:02,300
see the concerns

4968
02:29:02,300 --> 02:29:03,300
of the neighbors, though, and,

4969
02:29:03,300 --> 02:29:04,300
you know,

4970
02:29:04,300 --> 02:29:05,300
it is a little bit inconsistent

4971
02:29:05,300 --> 02:29:07,300
to have followed the timing,

4972
02:29:07,300 --> 02:29:09,300
like the allowance of going

4973
02:29:09,300 --> 02:29:11,300
until 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. being

4974
02:29:11,300 --> 02:29:13,300
consistent with Cole Mansion,

4975
02:29:13,300 --> 02:29:16,300
but then not making it

4976
02:29:16,300 --> 02:29:17,300
consistent with the number of

4977
02:29:17,300 --> 02:29:18,300
third party events that could

4978
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:20,300
take place,

4979
02:29:20,300 --> 02:29:21,300
as I could see that both

4980
02:29:21,300 --> 02:29:23,300
of those feed

4981
02:29:23,300 --> 02:29:24,300
into the frequency, right, of

4982
02:29:24,300 --> 02:29:25,300
how often events happen there,

4983
02:29:25,300 --> 02:29:27,300
and that then feeds into the

4984
02:29:27,300 --> 02:29:29,300
traffic and noise concerns

4985
02:29:29,300 --> 02:29:32,300
of the neighbors. And so I am

4986
02:29:32,300 --> 02:29:33,300
kind of thinking

4987
02:29:33,300 --> 02:29:34,300
about that as well,

4988
02:29:34,300 --> 02:29:35,300
as if there does need

4989
02:29:35,300 --> 02:29:36,300
to be additional guardrails,

4990
02:29:36,300 --> 02:29:39,300
do we lump Cole Mansion and the

4991
02:29:39,300 --> 02:29:41,300
gym rentals

4992
02:29:41,300 --> 02:29:44,300
in together as an aggregate,

4993
02:29:44,300 --> 02:29:45,300
much like we're doing an

4994
02:29:45,300 --> 02:29:47,403
aggregate for, you know,

4995
02:29:48,300 --> 02:29:49,300
the number

4996
02:29:49,300 --> 02:29:50,300
of visitors that can be

4997
02:29:50,300 --> 02:29:51,300
on the site, and we're doing an

4998
02:29:51,300 --> 02:29:52,300
aggregate the number of parking

4999
02:29:52,300 --> 02:29:55,300
spaces that are required. So

5000
02:29:55,300 --> 02:29:57,300
that's where my thinking is

5001
02:29:57,300 --> 02:29:59,300
right now,

5002
02:30:00,300 --> 02:30:01,300
and so I'm still kind of

5003
02:30:01,300 --> 02:30:02,300
deciding exactly where my boat

5004
02:30:02,300 --> 02:30:04,300
would lie.

5005
02:30:07,300 --> 02:30:09,403
Vice Mayor, sorry, Council

5006
02:30:11,300 --> 02:30:12,300
Member Colson. Thank you,

5007
02:30:12,300 --> 02:30:13,300
thank you very much. Mr.

5008
02:30:13,300 --> 02:30:15,300
Mayor, I just wanted

5009
02:30:15,300 --> 02:30:16,300
to approach this kind of

5010
02:30:16,300 --> 02:30:19,300
in a methodological way. We

5011
02:30:19,300 --> 02:30:22,300
have, I believe, four, five

5012
02:30:23,300 --> 02:30:26,300
requests, and I think it would

5013
02:30:26,300 --> 02:30:27,300
maybe help the staff if we sort

5014
02:30:27,300 --> 02:30:29,300
of kind of went through these.

5015
02:30:29,300 --> 02:30:31,300
I think basically the audience

5016
02:30:31,300 --> 02:30:32,300
and everyone I heard

5017
02:30:32,300 --> 02:30:33,300
from today is dispensing

5018
02:30:33,300 --> 02:30:35,300
with one, which is a request to

5019
02:30:35,300 --> 02:30:37,300
protect a well-used pedestrian

5020
02:30:37,300 --> 02:30:40,300
walkway. That seems to be,

5021
02:30:40,300 --> 02:30:42,300
for obvious reasons,

5022
02:30:42,300 --> 02:30:44,300
it's very hard to keep, you

5023
02:30:44,300 --> 02:30:46,300
know, to tell a private

5024
02:30:46,300 --> 02:30:47,300
property owner that you have to

5025
02:30:47,300 --> 02:30:49,300
have and allow the public

5026
02:30:49,300 --> 02:30:50,300
access to your property

5027
02:30:50,300 --> 02:30:51,300
at all time. We don't do that

5028
02:30:51,300 --> 02:30:54,300
for any other property in in

5029
02:30:54,300 --> 02:30:56,300
Burlingame, so I think we can

5030
02:30:56,300 --> 02:30:57,300
dispense

5031
02:30:57,300 --> 02:30:59,300
with that. I believe the

5032
02:30:59,300 --> 02:31:01,300
request to ensure a new

5033
02:31:01,300 --> 02:31:02,300
emergency road access is not

5034
02:31:02,300 --> 02:31:04,300
used for pedestrian access. I'm

5035
02:31:04,300 --> 02:31:05,300
satisfied that they have met

5036
02:31:05,300 --> 02:31:07,300
that standard,

5037
02:31:07,300 --> 02:31:09,300
and that is fine. I'm going

5038
02:31:09,300 --> 02:31:11,300
to skip number three, go

5039
02:31:11,300 --> 02:31:13,300
to four, commitment

5040
02:31:13,300 --> 02:31:14,300
to ensure 7% of all students.

5041
02:31:14,300 --> 02:31:16,300
We've heard tonight that 10% of

5042
02:31:16,300 --> 02:31:17,300
the students are taking

5043
02:31:17,300 --> 02:31:19,300
shuttles, and let me tell you,

5044
02:31:19,300 --> 02:31:20,300
as a mom who had

5045
02:31:20,300 --> 02:31:21,300
to drive kids all around, my

5046
02:31:21,300 --> 02:31:22,300
kids would be taking the

5047
02:31:22,300 --> 02:31:24,403
shuttle. No one wants

5048
02:31:25,300 --> 02:31:26,300
to drive their kids everywhere,

5049
02:31:26,300 --> 02:31:28,300
so I am really grateful that

5050
02:31:28,300 --> 02:31:29,300
10%

5051
02:31:29,300 --> 02:31:31,300
of the students are using it,

5052
02:31:31,300 --> 02:31:32,300
and I and I do want

5053
02:31:32,300 --> 02:31:34,300
to point out, again, as I

5054
02:31:34,300 --> 02:31:35,300
mentioned, I lived at 2616

5055
02:31:35,300 --> 02:31:37,300
Hale Drive, and I drove every

5056
02:31:37,300 --> 02:31:38,300
single day for 15 years up

5057
02:31:38,300 --> 02:31:39,300
Adeline

5058
02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:40,300
at exactly the same time Mercy

5059
02:31:40,300 --> 02:31:41,300
was coming down, and

5060
02:31:41,300 --> 02:31:42,300
in general, they were very

5061
02:31:42,300 --> 02:31:43,300
respectful, and I didn't have

5062
02:31:43,300 --> 02:31:44,300
any problems or any problems

5063
02:31:44,300 --> 02:31:46,300
with traffic, nor,

5064
02:31:47,300 --> 02:31:48,300
and the only noise I heard,

5065
02:31:48,300 --> 02:31:50,300
ironically, after 15 years

5066
02:31:50,300 --> 02:31:52,300
of living there was the,

5067
02:31:52,300 --> 02:31:53,300
were the pep rallies

5068
02:31:53,300 --> 02:31:54,300
during the day, so I think it's

5069
02:31:54,300 --> 02:31:56,300
really interesting that that's

5070
02:31:56,300 --> 02:31:57,300
actually going to go away,

5071
02:31:57,300 --> 02:31:58,300
and because it's going

5072
02:31:58,300 --> 02:31:59,300
to be sequestered

5073
02:31:59,300 --> 02:32:01,300
into the gym,

5074
02:32:02,300 --> 02:32:03,300
and then a pledge by Mercy

5075
02:32:03,300 --> 02:32:05,300
High School

5076
02:32:05,300 --> 02:32:06,300
to use its best efforts

5077
02:32:06,300 --> 02:32:07,300
to make sure guests

5078
02:32:07,300 --> 02:32:08,300
for the new gym do not park in

5079
02:32:08,300 --> 02:32:09,300
the neighborhood. I would also

5080
02:32:09,300 --> 02:32:11,300
concur that in my 15 years

5081
02:32:11,300 --> 02:32:13,300
of living literally four houses

5082
02:32:13,300 --> 02:32:15,300
down from the entrance of

5083
02:32:15,300 --> 02:32:18,300
Mercy off of Adeline, never

5084
02:32:18,300 --> 02:32:21,300
once in 15 years did anyone

5085
02:32:21,300 --> 02:32:22,300
ever park in front

5086
02:32:22,300 --> 02:32:24,300
of my house,

5087
02:32:24,300 --> 02:32:25,300
and I have that big island

5088
02:32:25,300 --> 02:32:26,300
in front of me, which made it

5089
02:32:26,300 --> 02:32:27,300
very attractive place

5090
02:32:27,300 --> 02:32:29,300
to park, there's a lot

5091
02:32:29,300 --> 02:32:30,300
of parking around there,

5092
02:32:30,300 --> 02:32:32,300
and we simply just didn't have

5093
02:32:32,300 --> 02:32:33,300
it, and I checked

5094
02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:34,300
with all my neighbors

5095
02:32:34,300 --> 02:32:36,300
around there, including Ms.

5096
02:32:36,300 --> 02:32:37,300
Galler, who lived there

5097
02:32:37,300 --> 02:32:38,300
for years, and none of us,

5098
02:32:38,300 --> 02:32:39,300
none

5099
02:32:39,300 --> 02:32:40,300
of us had problems there,

5100
02:32:40,300 --> 02:32:41,300
so I would probably dispense

5101
02:32:41,300 --> 02:32:43,300
with number five,

5102
02:32:44,300 --> 02:32:45,300
so that takes us back

5103
02:32:45,300 --> 02:32:46,300
to item number three,

5104
02:32:46,300 --> 02:32:47,300
which is the ban on rentals,

5105
02:32:47,300 --> 02:32:49,300
and interestingly,

5106
02:32:50,300 --> 02:32:51,300
having been involved in the

5107
02:32:51,300 --> 02:32:52,300
field rentals and policy work

5108
02:32:52,300 --> 02:32:54,300
here in Burlingame and

5109
02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:57,300
at the school district, you

5110
02:32:57,300 --> 02:32:59,300
know, we as a community rent

5111
02:32:59,300 --> 02:33:01,300
out Osberg, Franklin, Ray,

5112
02:33:01,300 --> 02:33:02,300
Cornevaca, Washington Park, and

5113
02:33:02,300 --> 02:33:04,300
the Community Center

5114
02:33:04,300 --> 02:33:06,300
to almost the exact, you know,

5115
02:33:06,300 --> 02:33:07,300
Washington Park has lights,

5116
02:33:07,300 --> 02:33:09,300
it's almost the exact same

5117
02:33:09,300 --> 02:33:10,300
timing, and in fact,

5118
02:33:10,300 --> 02:33:12,300
we have numerous events, at

5119
02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:14,300
least one that goes all night

5120
02:33:14,300 --> 02:33:16,300
long at Washington Park, which

5121
02:33:16,300 --> 02:33:17,300
is, you know, right

5122
02:33:17,300 --> 02:33:18,300
in the middle

5123
02:33:18,300 --> 02:33:19,300
of a neighborhood as well,

5124
02:33:19,300 --> 02:33:20,300
and it's our family campout,

5125
02:33:20,300 --> 02:33:21,300
which goes all night long,

5126
02:33:21,300 --> 02:33:24,603
so and our Community Center is

5127
02:33:25,300 --> 02:33:26,300
open late, it's open

5128
02:33:26,300 --> 02:33:27,300
for events, it's open

5129
02:33:27,300 --> 02:33:28,300
for rentals,

5130
02:33:28,300 --> 02:33:29,300
and when I was involved

5131
02:33:29,300 --> 02:33:31,300
in field use,

5132
02:33:31,300 --> 02:33:32,300
the school districts are

5133
02:33:32,300 --> 02:33:34,300
allowed to rent out to,

5134
02:33:34,300 --> 02:33:37,300
in fact, like I know I rented

5135
02:33:37,300 --> 02:33:40,300
the gyms when I was opening up

5136
02:33:40,300 --> 02:33:42,300
the Burlingamer, we needed

5137
02:33:42,300 --> 02:33:44,300
rental space until we could

5138
02:33:44,300 --> 02:33:45,300
finalize that project, and so

5139
02:33:45,300 --> 02:33:47,300
that, I was allowed

5140
02:33:47,300 --> 02:33:50,300
to rent from, you know,

5141
02:33:50,300 --> 02:33:51,300
these rentals start at 7 a.m.

5142
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:53,300
in the morning and, you know,

5143
02:33:53,300 --> 02:33:55,300
they go until quite late

5144
02:33:55,300 --> 02:33:57,300
in the evening, that was

5145
02:33:57,300 --> 02:33:59,403
Burlingame High School, so

5146
02:34:01,300 --> 02:34:02,300
given that that's kind of the

5147
02:34:02,300 --> 02:34:04,300
standard and there's a lot

5148
02:34:04,300 --> 02:34:06,300
of neighborhoods that, you

5149
02:34:06,300 --> 02:34:08,403
know, are impacted, another

5150
02:34:09,300 --> 02:34:10,300
school, right,

5151
02:34:10,300 --> 02:34:11,300
I live two blocks away from

5152
02:34:11,300 --> 02:34:14,300
Crocker and, you know, we're

5153
02:34:15,300 --> 02:34:16,300
in the same boat,

5154
02:34:16,300 --> 02:34:17,300
like I can't get in or out

5155
02:34:17,300 --> 02:34:18,300
of my house up to 280,

5156
02:34:18,300 --> 02:34:20,300
at least two times,

5157
02:34:20,300 --> 02:34:22,300
for an hour, two times a day,

5158
02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:23,300
and that's pretty much the only

5159
02:34:23,300 --> 02:34:25,300
way to get up to 80, so I think

5160
02:34:25,300 --> 02:34:28,603
we all just sort of learn

5161
02:34:29,300 --> 02:34:30,300
to deal

5162
02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:32,300
with these accommodations,

5163
02:34:32,300 --> 02:34:33,300
we kind of, you know,

5164
02:34:33,300 --> 02:34:34,300
it's part of living

5165
02:34:34,300 --> 02:34:36,300
in a dense, dense community,

5166
02:34:36,300 --> 02:34:38,300
so my recommendation would be

5167
02:34:38,300 --> 02:34:39,300
to join in with my two

5168
02:34:39,300 --> 02:34:42,300
colleagues and say that I

5169
02:34:42,300 --> 02:34:45,300
would, I would like to allow

5170
02:34:45,300 --> 02:34:47,300
Mercy the opportunity

5171
02:34:47,300 --> 02:34:48,300
to explore rentals,

5172
02:34:48,300 --> 02:34:50,300
and what I would like

5173
02:34:50,300 --> 02:34:51,300
to do is take former Mayor

5174
02:34:51,300 --> 02:34:53,403
Anne Keagran's suggestion that

5175
02:34:56,300 --> 02:34:58,300
we revisit it, maybe

5176
02:34:58,300 --> 02:34:59,300
in a year and a half,

5177
02:34:59,300 --> 02:35:00,300
two years

5178
02:35:00,300 --> 02:35:02,300
after the project is complete,

5179
02:35:02,300 --> 02:35:04,300
and you've been renting, and we

5180
02:35:04,300 --> 02:35:06,300
could revisit and just see if

5181
02:35:06,300 --> 02:35:07,300
there needs

5182
02:35:07,300 --> 02:35:08,300
to be any accommodation,

5183
02:35:08,300 --> 02:35:09,300
any change in hours,

5184
02:35:09,300 --> 02:35:10,300
and I'm looking to Natalie

5185
02:35:10,300 --> 02:35:12,300
to see if something

5186
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:13,300
like that might be amenable

5187
02:35:13,300 --> 02:35:15,300
to them, you know, put it this

5188
02:35:15,300 --> 02:35:16,300
way, we can do that or not

5189
02:35:16,300 --> 02:35:18,300
tonight, but I can assure you

5190
02:35:18,300 --> 02:35:19,300
if it's abused and there's a

5191
02:35:19,300 --> 02:35:20,300
problem, it will be back

5192
02:35:20,300 --> 02:35:22,300
in front of this council

5193
02:35:22,300 --> 02:35:24,300
in two years,

5194
02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:25,300
so it doesn't really even have

5195
02:35:25,300 --> 02:35:26,300
to be a condition,

5196
02:35:26,300 --> 02:35:28,300
it's just sort

5197
02:35:28,300 --> 02:35:30,300
of how things work

5198
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:32,300
around here. If something's not

5199
02:35:32,300 --> 02:35:33,300
working,

5200
02:35:33,300 --> 02:35:34,300
I can assure you everyone will

5201
02:35:34,300 --> 02:35:35,300
complain, and we will have

5202
02:35:35,300 --> 02:35:38,300
to revisit it. So my

5203
02:35:38,300 --> 02:35:40,300
inclination right now would be

5204
02:35:40,300 --> 02:35:43,300
to vote to uphold the

5205
02:35:44,300 --> 02:35:46,300
Planning Commission's, and I

5206
02:35:46,300 --> 02:35:48,300
just want to make a comment

5207
02:35:48,300 --> 02:35:49,300
about our Planning

5208
02:35:49,300 --> 02:35:51,300
Commission, the number, the

5209
02:35:51,300 --> 02:35:53,300
Planning Commission sits up

5210
02:35:53,300 --> 02:35:54,300
here probably longer than the

5211
02:35:54,300 --> 02:35:55,300
City Council does,

5212
02:35:55,300 --> 02:35:56,300
their meetings go

5213
02:35:56,300 --> 02:35:58,300
till midnight, 1, 2 a.m., and

5214
02:35:58,300 --> 02:36:00,300
that organization's commitment

5215
02:36:01,300 --> 02:36:03,300
and help

5216
02:36:03,300 --> 02:36:06,300
in brewing game has been

5217
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:08,300
like nothing I've ever seen,

5218
02:36:08,300 --> 02:36:09,300
so I want to thank every single

5219
02:36:09,300 --> 02:36:10,300
person who is on that

5220
02:36:10,300 --> 02:36:11,300
Planning Commission and their

5221
02:36:11,300 --> 02:36:13,300
thoughtful review of all of

5222
02:36:13,300 --> 02:36:15,300
these applications that we

5223
02:36:15,300 --> 02:36:16,300
receive over and over again,

5224
02:36:16,300 --> 02:36:17,300
most

5225
02:36:17,300 --> 02:36:18,300
of which never ever make it up

5226
02:36:18,300 --> 02:36:21,300
to the City Council. So that

5227
02:36:21,300 --> 02:36:23,300
would be my, I would be

5228
02:36:23,300 --> 02:36:24,300
in consensus and collaboration

5229
02:36:24,300 --> 02:36:26,300
with my colleagues

5230
02:36:26,300 --> 02:36:28,300
on that recommendation,

5231
02:36:28,300 --> 02:36:29,300
and look forward to hearing

5232
02:36:29,300 --> 02:36:31,300
from the Mayor.

5233
02:36:31,300 --> 02:36:32,300
Yeah, and thank you council

5234
02:36:32,300 --> 02:36:34,300
members. Anybody who knows me

5235
02:36:34,300 --> 02:36:35,300
knows I'm a huge supporter

5236
02:36:35,300 --> 02:36:37,403
of the education system

5237
02:36:38,300 --> 02:36:40,300
in our community, whether

5238
02:36:40,300 --> 02:36:43,300
that's private or public. I

5239
02:36:43,300 --> 02:36:45,300
think Burlingame is really a

5240
02:36:45,300 --> 02:36:47,403
community that is principled

5241
02:36:48,300 --> 02:36:50,403
on neighborhood schools. Most

5242
02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:53,300
of the schools we have

5243
02:36:53,300 --> 02:36:54,300
in here have populations around

5244
02:36:54,300 --> 02:36:56,300
them that are walking distance,

5245
02:36:56,300 --> 02:36:57,300
commuting distance, shuttle

5246
02:36:57,300 --> 02:36:59,300
distance, and really I look

5247
02:36:59,300 --> 02:37:01,300
at it from a glass-half-full

5248
02:37:01,300 --> 02:37:03,403
standpoint rather than the

5249
02:37:04,300 --> 02:37:05,300
opposite. What do schools add

5250
02:37:05,300 --> 02:37:08,300
to our community? So that's

5251
02:37:09,300 --> 02:37:11,300
where I'm coming

5252
02:37:11,300 --> 02:37:12,300
from emotionally and in my

5253
02:37:12,300 --> 02:37:14,300
perspective. I think schools

5254
02:37:14,300 --> 02:37:16,300
are one of the three pillars

5255
02:37:16,300 --> 02:37:17,300
of our city that add

5256
02:37:17,300 --> 02:37:19,300
to the value

5257
02:37:19,300 --> 02:37:20,300
of our life here and add

5258
02:37:20,300 --> 02:37:21,300
to the value of all

5259
02:37:21,300 --> 02:37:22,300
of what we do

5260
02:37:22,300 --> 02:37:23,300
in our homes and the valuations

5261
02:37:23,300 --> 02:37:27,300
of those as well. I do think

5262
02:37:27,300 --> 02:37:29,403
the best way though

5263
02:37:30,300 --> 02:37:31,300
for a community school is

5264
02:37:31,300 --> 02:37:33,300
to engage

5265
02:37:33,300 --> 02:37:34,300
with their neighbors. That is

5266
02:37:34,300 --> 02:37:36,300
true for the elementary school

5267
02:37:36,300 --> 02:37:38,300
that I was involved in heavily.

5268
02:37:38,300 --> 02:37:40,300
I'm sure that's fairly true

5269
02:37:40,300 --> 02:37:42,300
historically for Mercy. It

5270
02:37:42,300 --> 02:37:44,300
sounds very much like even

5271
02:37:44,300 --> 02:37:45,300
those who are concerned about

5272
02:37:45,300 --> 02:37:47,300
parking or noise or these types

5273
02:37:47,300 --> 02:37:48,300
of things have consistently

5274
02:37:48,300 --> 02:37:49,300
said Mercy has been a great

5275
02:37:49,300 --> 02:37:52,603
partner in our community and I

5276
02:37:53,300 --> 02:37:55,300
would hope that that wouldn't

5277
02:37:55,300 --> 02:37:58,300
change. I do think the

5278
02:37:58,300 --> 02:38:00,300
methodology was important

5279
02:38:05,300 --> 02:38:07,300
because I do think it comes

5280
02:38:07,300 --> 02:38:08,300
down to this one provision

5281
02:38:08,300 --> 02:38:11,300
about rental use. It's pretty

5282
02:38:11,300 --> 02:38:13,300
clear that the space at Mercy

5283
02:38:13,300 --> 02:38:14,300
is going

5284
02:38:14,300 --> 02:38:15,300
to accommodate this gym. It

5285
02:38:15,300 --> 02:38:16,300
actually may end up lowering

5286
02:38:16,300 --> 02:38:18,300
noise that is existing today

5287
02:38:18,300 --> 02:38:20,300
because of the movement

5288
02:38:20,300 --> 02:38:22,403
of those activities indoors.

5289
02:38:23,300 --> 02:38:24,300
It's certainly going

5290
02:38:24,300 --> 02:38:26,300
to give the girls a sense

5291
02:38:26,300 --> 02:38:27,300
of pride to be able to have

5292
02:38:27,300 --> 02:38:29,300
their own home court and I

5293
02:38:29,300 --> 02:38:30,300
don't think anybody in the room

5294
02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:32,300
has articulated that they were

5295
02:38:32,300 --> 02:38:34,300
against the gym. So I think

5296
02:38:34,300 --> 02:38:36,403
really this comes down

5297
02:38:37,300 --> 02:38:39,300
to the collaboration between

5298
02:38:39,300 --> 02:38:40,300
the neighborhood and the school

5299
02:38:40,300 --> 02:38:42,300
and how it's going to

5300
02:38:42,300 --> 02:38:44,403
administer and stay respectful

5301
02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:47,403
from a third-party use,

5302
02:38:48,300 --> 02:38:50,300
from a traffic perspective,

5303
02:38:50,300 --> 02:38:52,300
from a noise perspective. So I

5304
02:38:52,300 --> 02:38:53,300
do take former Mayor Kegran's

5305
02:38:53,300 --> 02:38:56,300
counsel very seriously that I

5306
02:38:57,300 --> 02:38:58,300
think there's an opportunity

5307
02:38:58,300 --> 02:39:00,300
to continue this dialogue,

5308
02:39:00,300 --> 02:39:01,300
not necessarily

5309
02:39:01,300 --> 02:39:04,300
in this context, but that there

5310
02:39:04,300 --> 02:39:05,300
should be some degree

5311
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:07,300
of evaluation and some degree

5312
02:39:07,300 --> 02:39:09,300
of understanding. How is it

5313
02:39:09,300 --> 02:39:10,300
going? Is there something that

5314
02:39:10,300 --> 02:39:11,300
we've learned

5315
02:39:11,300 --> 02:39:13,300
through that that we want

5316
02:39:13,300 --> 02:39:15,300
to either bring back

5317
02:39:15,300 --> 02:39:16,300
to the council or figure

5318
02:39:16,300 --> 02:39:17,300
out how you work it

5319
02:39:17,300 --> 02:39:19,403
out as a community?

5320
02:39:20,300 --> 02:39:22,300
Countless stories of that

5321
02:39:22,300 --> 02:39:23,300
in where I live in Burlingame

5322
02:39:23,300 --> 02:39:24,300
and I've heard that

5323
02:39:24,300 --> 02:39:25,300
from many,

5324
02:39:25,300 --> 02:39:26,300
many other neighbors

5325
02:39:26,300 --> 02:39:27,300
over the years. And this isn't

5326
02:39:27,300 --> 02:39:29,300
a contentious relationship

5327
02:39:30,300 --> 02:39:31,300
with Mercy over the years,

5328
02:39:31,300 --> 02:39:33,403
right? They've been a

5329
02:39:35,300 --> 02:39:36,300
substantive part of the

5330
02:39:36,300 --> 02:39:37,300
neighborhood and a good

5331
02:39:37,300 --> 02:39:39,300
neighbor and very respectful.

5332
02:39:39,300 --> 02:39:43,300
So I'm inclined to go with the

5333
02:39:43,300 --> 02:39:45,300
affirmation. I'm inclined to

5334
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:47,300
encourage that the dialogue

5335
02:39:47,300 --> 02:39:49,300
continue,

5336
02:39:49,300 --> 02:39:51,300
that there is an evaluation.

5337
02:39:51,300 --> 02:39:52,300
Certainly the onus is on Mercy

5338
02:39:52,300 --> 02:39:54,300
to make sure they're responsive

5339
02:39:54,300 --> 02:39:55,000
to complaints,

5340
02:39:55,000 --> 02:39:57,100
that the public feels

5341
02:39:57,100 --> 02:39:59,100
like they have access and input

5342
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:02,100
into that, because if not,

5343
02:40:03,100 --> 02:40:05,100
it will come back

5344
02:40:05,100 --> 02:40:07,100
to the council.

5345
02:40:07,100 --> 02:40:08,100
But I wouldn't, I would

5346
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:10,100
encourage, I don't know if I

5347
02:40:10,100 --> 02:40:11,100
would put stipulations

5348
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:12,100
on the decision today to

5349
02:40:12,100 --> 02:40:14,100
actually have specific

5350
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:16,100
guardrails articulated,

5351
02:40:16,100 --> 02:40:18,100
but I would like

5352
02:40:18,100 --> 02:40:20,100
to see some encouragement

5353
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:21,100
about maybe in six months the

5354
02:40:21,100 --> 02:40:23,100
community comes back and

5355
02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:25,100
debriefs, not only the

5356
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:26,100
Planning Commission,

5357
02:40:26,100 --> 02:40:28,100
but staff and council.

5358
02:40:28,100 --> 02:40:29,100
Six months

5359
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:30,100
after the operation.

5360
02:40:30,100 --> 02:40:31,100
Correct. And we're talking, I

5361
02:40:31,100 --> 02:40:32,100
don't know what the

5362
02:40:32,100 --> 02:40:34,100
construction cycle time is,

5363
02:40:34,100 --> 02:40:35,100
it's probably

5364
02:40:35,100 --> 02:40:37,100
at least a couple years, 14

5365
02:40:37,100 --> 02:40:39,100
months,

5366
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:40,100
so that that would be good.

5367
02:40:40,100 --> 02:40:42,100
Maybe in a couple years is

5368
02:40:42,100 --> 02:40:43,100
to have that. So a question

5369
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:45,401
from our city council,

5370
02:40:46,100 --> 02:40:47,100
our city attorney.

5371
02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:48,100
Before the council goes further

5372
02:40:48,100 --> 02:40:51,100
along, I think our Community

5373
02:40:51,100 --> 02:40:53,100
Development Director wanted

5374
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:54,100
to chime in about sort

5375
02:40:54,100 --> 02:40:56,100
of that evaluation process.

5376
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:58,100
Okay, please do.

5377
02:40:59,100 --> 02:41:00,100
In collaboration

5378
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:03,100
with the city attorney. So

5379
02:41:05,100 --> 02:41:06,100
conditional use permits run

5380
02:41:06,100 --> 02:41:09,100
with the land when the council

5381
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:10,100
acts on it tonight,

5382
02:41:10,100 --> 02:41:12,100
an entitlement is issued

5383
02:41:12,100 --> 02:41:15,100
to them and that runs with,

5384
02:41:15,100 --> 02:41:17,100
therefore they would be able

5385
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:18,100
to operate under the conditions

5386
02:41:18,100 --> 02:41:20,401
that have been stipulated

5387
02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:24,100
in the permit in perpetuity.

5388
02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:26,100
If they are in violation

5389
02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:27,100
of those conditions,

5390
02:41:27,100 --> 02:41:30,100
if they haven't fulfilled them,

5391
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:32,100
a permit can be brought back

5392
02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:33,100
to the City Council for

5393
02:41:33,100 --> 02:41:35,100
revocation. A evaluation where

5394
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:38,100
in six months time, a year's

5395
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:40,100
time, we come back and discuss

5396
02:41:40,100 --> 02:41:43,100
the conditions of approval and

5397
02:41:43,100 --> 02:41:44,100
they've agreed and fulfilled

5398
02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:47,100
all the requirements and say

5399
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:50,100
the public or there is a desire

5400
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:53,100
not to allow say third-party

5401
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:55,100
rentals, we wouldn't be able

5402
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:56,100
to at that time

5403
02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:58,100
to revoke their ability

5404
02:41:58,100 --> 02:41:59,100
to do it if they have not been

5405
02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:01,100
in any violation

5406
02:42:01,100 --> 02:42:02,100
of their permits. So I want

5407
02:42:02,100 --> 02:42:04,100
to be very clear, we can

5408
02:42:04,100 --> 02:42:06,100
absolutely have a discussion

5409
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:09,100
but that is limited to the

5410
02:42:09,100 --> 02:42:11,100
parameters and conditions.

5411
02:42:11,100 --> 02:42:14,100
Future mitigation, I mean as

5412
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:18,100
in like overuse, violating the

5413
02:42:18,100 --> 02:42:20,100
300 maximum, noise decibel,

5414
02:42:21,100 --> 02:42:23,401
exceeding those. Correct, and

5415
02:42:24,100 --> 02:42:26,100
discussing that. If the council

5416
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:28,100
desires to put parameters

5417
02:42:28,100 --> 02:42:30,100
around third-party rentals,

5418
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:32,100
the time would be now

5419
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:33,100
to stipulate it

5420
02:42:33,100 --> 02:42:34,100
in their conditions

5421
02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:35,100
of approval that they need

5422
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:37,100
to adhere to. We could not

5423
02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:39,100
retroactively come back in the

5424
02:42:39,100 --> 02:42:42,100
future and then start putting

5425
02:42:42,100 --> 02:42:43,100
further stipulations

5426
02:42:43,100 --> 02:42:44,100
on their conditions.

5427
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:45,100
Understood. If there's a desire

5428
02:42:45,100 --> 02:42:46,100
now for guardrails,

5429
02:42:46,100 --> 02:42:50,100
this is the time. I'll go back

5430
02:42:50,100 --> 02:42:51,100
to our council members. So I

5431
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:54,601
have no I have no reason

5432
02:42:55,100 --> 02:42:56,100
to believe that Mercy will not

5433
02:42:56,100 --> 02:42:58,100
be responsible and this is the

5434
02:42:58,100 --> 02:43:00,100
same with every conditional

5435
02:43:00,100 --> 02:43:01,100
permit that we not unique

5436
02:43:01,100 --> 02:43:04,100
to this we issue. So my

5437
02:43:04,100 --> 02:43:07,100
inclination would be to sort

5438
02:43:09,100 --> 02:43:10,100
of fall in line

5439
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:12,100
with what happens with regular

5440
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:13,100
high schools and other schools.

5441
02:43:13,100 --> 02:43:14,100
I also do want to point out,

5442
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:16,100
I don't think any of the three

5443
02:43:16,100 --> 02:43:18,401
of you were involved,

5444
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:20,100
but when we were working on the

5445
02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:21,100
community center and we were

5446
02:43:21,100 --> 02:43:22,100
listening to the charrettes

5447
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:23,100
about what people wanted,

5448
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:25,100
you know one

5449
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:27,100
of the things that is most

5450
02:43:27,100 --> 02:43:30,100
short in this city happens to

5451
02:43:30,100 --> 02:43:31,100
be basketball space and we

5452
02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:35,100
don't have a gym. So I'm kind

5453
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:36,100
of grateful that there may be a

5454
02:43:36,100 --> 02:43:38,100
gym that's available for

5455
02:43:38,100 --> 02:43:40,100
rentals. I know there are adult

5456
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:42,100
leagues that have wanted things

5457
02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:43,100
stuff like that

5458
02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:46,100
on the weekends. So I have just

5459
02:43:46,100 --> 02:43:48,100
heard over and over again from

5460
02:43:48,100 --> 02:43:50,100
the public that there's a

5461
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,100
demand for that. So I guess my

5462
02:43:52,100 --> 02:43:55,100
my inclination would be just

5463
02:43:55,100 --> 02:43:57,100
to carry the full

5464
02:43:57,100 --> 02:43:59,100
recommendation of the

5465
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:01,401
Planning Commission as stands

5466
02:44:05,100 --> 02:44:08,100
then. Thank you Mayor. I agree

5467
02:44:08,100 --> 02:44:11,100
with Council Member Colson. I

5468
02:44:13,100 --> 02:44:14,100
don't think that there's any

5469
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:16,100
big concern that that though

5470
02:44:16,100 --> 02:44:19,100
that there will be misuse

5471
02:44:22,100 --> 02:44:24,100
of the gym and of the rentals

5472
02:44:24,100 --> 02:44:28,801
and I yeah I agree I think if

5473
02:44:29,100 --> 02:44:33,100
we need it for if it's needed

5474
02:44:33,100 --> 02:44:34,100
for other community uses then

5475
02:44:34,100 --> 02:44:36,100
it should be available and

5476
02:44:36,100 --> 02:44:37,100
again I think we should be

5477
02:44:37,100 --> 02:44:39,100
consistent with how we treat

5478
02:44:39,100 --> 02:44:42,100
our other schools as well.

5479
02:44:42,100 --> 02:44:43,100
Council Member Thayer.

5480
02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:44,100
Yeah as well I think I would I

5481
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:46,100
would lean in on you know

5482
02:44:46,100 --> 02:44:49,100
Mercy being a good neighbor

5483
02:44:49,100 --> 02:44:50,100
over the years you know running

5484
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:52,100
their campus appropriately. I

5485
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:54,100
mean hearing how much more they

5486
02:44:54,100 --> 02:44:55,100
make from rental of Cole

5487
02:44:55,100 --> 02:44:57,100
Mansion really does make me

5488
02:44:57,100 --> 02:44:59,100
realize that they're going

5489
02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:00,100
to prioritize that

5490
02:45:00,100 --> 02:45:02,100
over the gym rental. So the

5491
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:03,100
likelihood they're going

5492
02:45:03,100 --> 02:45:05,100
to have anything

5493
02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:06,100
in the gym really late

5494
02:45:06,100 --> 02:45:07,100
at night on the weekends is

5495
02:45:07,100 --> 02:45:09,100
just it's much smaller because

5496
02:45:09,100 --> 02:45:10,100
there's so many weddings and

5497
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:14,100
other things. I do worry if we

5498
02:45:14,100 --> 02:45:15,100
put an extra guardrail

5499
02:45:15,100 --> 02:45:19,100
in place that we don't have for

5500
02:45:19,100 --> 02:45:20,100
our public schools where where

5501
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:21,100
they're allowed to to rent out

5502
02:45:21,100 --> 02:45:22,100
their gym and facilities that

5503
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:23,100
it that it's unfair to this

5504
02:45:23,100 --> 02:45:25,100
this private school that's been

5505
02:45:25,100 --> 02:45:28,601
a good neighbor for us. All

5506
02:45:29,100 --> 02:45:31,100
right can we make a motion?

5507
02:45:31,100 --> 02:45:32,100
Would you like a motion? Well

5508
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:34,100
let me comment and then a

5509
02:45:34,100 --> 02:45:38,201
motion. Yeah I you know I think

5510
02:45:41,100 --> 02:45:43,100
there's it's difficult

5511
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:45,100
to put a condition on this. I

5512
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:47,100
think if there is an issue

5513
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:48,100
it'll surface in one of those

5514
02:45:48,100 --> 02:45:50,100
parameters that's already part

5515
02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:51,100
of this EUP which is either

5516
02:45:51,100 --> 02:45:53,401
noise or other violations

5517
02:45:54,100 --> 02:45:56,100
of the size

5518
02:45:56,100 --> 02:45:57,100
of an event and these type

5519
02:45:57,100 --> 02:45:59,100
of things. I do think Mercy is

5520
02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:01,100
going to prioritize Cole

5521
02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:03,100
Mansion more so than its own

5522
02:46:03,100 --> 02:46:06,100
facility albeit you know as a

5523
02:46:06,100 --> 02:46:08,401
city we're always short

5524
02:46:09,100 --> 02:46:11,100
of facilities to to utilize

5525
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:12,100
for leagues and so forth

5526
02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:13,100
but a lot

5527
02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:16,100
of times they're still within

5528
02:46:16,100 --> 02:46:17,100
the organization's control is I

5529
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:21,201
can set a policy around how one

5530
02:46:22,100 --> 02:46:23,100
you know what I want to rent

5531
02:46:23,100 --> 02:46:26,100
to as well as at what time of

5532
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:27,100
the day and I don't know if it

5533
02:46:27,100 --> 02:46:28,100
necessarily needs

5534
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:31,100
to be legislated at this point

5535
02:46:31,100 --> 02:46:34,601
from an extra guardrail and so

5536
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:38,100
I'm still inclined

5537
02:46:38,100 --> 02:46:39,100
to move forward

5538
02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:40,100
with the original Planning

5539
02:46:40,100 --> 02:46:41,100
Commission's affirmation

5540
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:44,100
of the permit to proceed with

5541
02:46:44,100 --> 02:46:46,100
the project and I'll ask

5542
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:48,100
colleagues for a motion. May I

5543
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:50,100
also just point out Mr. Mayor

5544
02:46:50,100 --> 02:46:53,100
please I'm sorry through the

5545
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:56,100
Mayor I did look through I just

5546
02:46:56,100 --> 02:46:57,100
because we haven't mentioned

5547
02:46:57,100 --> 02:46:59,100
other than they came in but we

5548
02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:00,100
did receive a very large stack

5549
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:02,100
and I would say it was you know

5550
02:47:02,100 --> 02:47:06,100
80% pro leave it as it is and

5551
02:47:06,100 --> 02:47:09,601
20% negative so I just add that

5552
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:11,100
on to what we heard this

5553
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:13,100
evening because the public may

5554
02:47:13,100 --> 02:47:14,100
not have the benefit

5555
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:17,100
of reading all these emails.

5556
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:22,100
Yeah I took stock

5557
02:47:22,100 --> 02:47:25,100
of that as well. A lot of the

5558
02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:27,100
students which I applaud, they

5559
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:30,100
care, they want a place to grow

5560
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:31,100
and experience and leverage and

5561
02:47:31,100 --> 02:47:33,401
so certainly acknowledge that

5562
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:35,100
as part of the pool

5563
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:36,100
of feedback not just

5564
02:47:36,100 --> 02:47:38,100
in the room

5565
02:47:38,100 --> 02:47:39,100
but online as well. So

5566
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:40,100
with that I'm going

5567
02:47:40,100 --> 02:47:41,100
to ask colleagues

5568
02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:44,601
for a motion. Do you like

5569
02:47:45,100 --> 02:47:46,100
to make it? Sure I'll make a

5570
02:47:46,100 --> 02:47:49,100
motion to uphold the Planning

5571
02:47:49,100 --> 02:47:51,100
Commission's decision. Motion

5572
02:47:51,100 --> 02:47:53,100
by Councilmember Pappajohn. Do

5573
02:47:53,100 --> 02:47:56,601
I have a second? I'll second.

5574
02:47:58,100 --> 02:48:00,100
Seconded by Councilmember

5575
02:48:01,100 --> 02:48:02,100
Thayer. Madam City Clerk can we

5576
02:48:02,100 --> 02:48:03,100
have a roll call please?

5577
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:04,100
Councilmember Thayer? Yes.

5578
02:48:04,100 --> 02:48:06,100
Councilmember Colson? Yes.

5579
02:48:06,100 --> 02:48:08,100
Councilmember Pappajohn? Yes.

5580
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:11,100
Mayor Stevenson? Yes. So thank

5581
02:48:14,100 --> 02:48:15,100
you for everybody in this

5582
02:48:15,100 --> 02:48:16,100
process. I know there's going

5583
02:48:16,100 --> 02:48:17,100
to be people that are a little

5584
02:48:17,100 --> 02:48:19,100
bit maybe disappointed about

5585
02:48:19,100 --> 02:48:21,100
the outcome and some people

5586
02:48:21,100 --> 02:48:23,100
that are happy about it. I will

5587
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:25,401
share my perspective that

5588
02:48:27,100 --> 02:48:28,100
continue the discussions,

5589
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:31,100
continue to work together. If

5590
02:48:31,100 --> 02:48:32,100
there are things that the city

5591
02:48:32,100 --> 02:48:34,100
needs to do on other parts of

5592
02:48:34,100 --> 02:48:35,100
making sure that traffic and

5593
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:37,100
other things are there we want

5594
02:48:37,100 --> 02:48:39,100
to make sure you have an avenue

5595
02:48:39,100 --> 02:48:41,100
to do that. I appreciate the

5596
02:48:41,100 --> 02:48:43,100
appellate. I appreciate the

5597
02:48:43,100 --> 02:48:46,100
applicants time and thank you

5598
02:48:46,100 --> 02:48:50,100
for that and and thank you for

5599
02:48:50,100 --> 02:48:52,100
the you know keeping it civil

5600
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:54,100
and keeping it you know

5601
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:55,100
constructive. There was a lot

5602
02:48:55,100 --> 02:48:56,100
of great input

5603
02:48:56,100 --> 02:48:57,100
on everybody and it's not lost

5604
02:48:57,100 --> 02:48:59,100
on the council.

5605
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:01,100
With that I'm going to move on

5606
02:49:01,100 --> 02:49:04,100
to item number 11. Five minute

5607
02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:06,100
break. Okay five minute break.

5608
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:07,100
I was trying to get us out

5609
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:09,100
of here for 11. Okay five

5610
02:49:09,100 --> 02:49:11,100
minute break.

5611
02:49:40,100 --> 02:49:42,100
I'm going to open myself up

5612
02:49:42,100 --> 02:49:43,100
to say no. Not only has he

5613
02:49:43,100 --> 02:49:45,401
already heard about that,

5614
02:49:48,100 --> 02:49:51,100
that's going to add vividly

5615
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:53,100
to the decision he'd like

5616
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:55,100
to make moving forward. That's

5617
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:57,100
going to add vividly. It

5618
02:49:57,100 --> 02:49:59,100
doesn't give away my opinion

5619
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:00,100
to them all of a sudden saying

5620
02:50:00,100 --> 02:50:02,100
oh I forgot what I wanted

5621
02:50:02,100 --> 02:50:04,100
to do.

5622
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:06,100
So much trust.

5623
02:50:16,100 --> 02:50:19,100
There's more laughter than not.

5624
02:50:40,100 --> 02:50:41,100
Well thanks guys. I didn't

5625
02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:42,100
think it would take so long.

5626
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:44,100
That's okay. It was a good it

5627
02:50:44,100 --> 02:50:46,100
was a good process. No I I

5628
02:50:46,100 --> 02:50:48,100
think I was just telling

5629
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:50,100
Desiree that this is going

5630
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:51,100
to pay dividends. There's

5631
02:50:51,100 --> 02:50:53,100
people that are disappointed

5632
02:50:53,100 --> 02:50:54,100
that they're on guardrails or

5633
02:50:54,100 --> 02:50:56,100
on things but I guarantee you

5634
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:58,100
and that's going

5635
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:03,100
to pay dividends in defense

5636
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:04,100
of being open

5637
02:51:04,100 --> 02:51:05,100
to community input, working

5638
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:06,100
with same folks that are

5639
02:51:06,100 --> 02:51:07,100
concerned

5640
02:51:07,100 --> 02:51:08,100
about different things. So

5641
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:09,100
that's well I'm not sure it's

5642
02:51:09,100 --> 02:51:11,100
naive. It's just that you can't

5643
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:13,100
ever go back.

5644
02:51:16,100 --> 02:51:17,100
Once you give it away,

5645
02:51:17,100 --> 02:51:18,100
you can't get it back. No it's

5646
02:51:18,100 --> 02:51:20,100
an entitlement and a mentality.

5647
02:51:20,100 --> 02:51:23,100
But there is the violation

5648
02:51:23,100 --> 02:51:24,100
of the case.

5649
02:51:24,100 --> 02:51:26,100
They have parties later.

5650
02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:28,100
They have decibels holding a

5651
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:31,100
party that's called a police.

5652
02:51:32,100 --> 02:51:34,100
Three months ago.

5653
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:35,100
I'm going to go use the

5654
02:51:35,100 --> 02:51:37,100
bathroom now.

5655
02:51:37,100 --> 02:51:39,100
I'm going to go in.

5656
02:51:39,100 --> 02:51:41,100
If you're talking

5657
02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:47,100
about the high school level,

5658
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:22,100
yeah 100 percent.

5659
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:24,401
Like the elementary school

5660
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:26,100
for Burlington, you know it.

5661
02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:28,100
It's on Howard and people treat

5662
02:52:28,100 --> 02:52:30,100
each other like El Camino. And

5663
02:52:30,100 --> 02:52:32,100
we put the traffic calming in.

5664
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:33,100
I was literally ran out into

5665
02:52:33,100 --> 02:52:35,100
the street when a guy was going

5666
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:36,100
80 in his Mustang

5667
02:52:36,100 --> 02:52:38,100
on the roadway in the middle of

5668
02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:40,100
the day where the kids were

5669
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:42,100
getting out of school. So

5670
02:52:42,100 --> 02:52:44,100
that's not going to stop.

5671
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:46,100
But I don't know. Yeah it

5672
02:52:46,100 --> 02:52:48,100
wasn't.

5673
02:52:48,100 --> 02:52:52,100
I mean you know it's it's it's

5674
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:55,100
really hard and it is

5675
02:52:55,100 --> 02:52:57,100
indisputable if everyone was

5676
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:58,100
okay.

5677
02:52:58,100 --> 02:52:59,100
Like the fact there's a lot

5678
02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:01,100
more traffic. All those kids

5679
02:53:01,100 --> 02:53:03,100
are.

5680
02:53:04,100 --> 02:53:05,100
Yeah they're going to have more

5681
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:06,100
events where they're staying

5682
02:53:06,100 --> 02:53:08,100
rather than parting

5683
02:53:08,100 --> 02:53:09,100
to another field. Yeah I mean

5684
02:53:09,100 --> 02:53:10,100
maybe that's maybe there's a

5685
02:53:10,100 --> 02:53:12,100
net out.

5686
02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:16,100
There's a lot more activity.

5687
02:53:16,100 --> 02:53:17,100
No one's ever said we don't

5688
02:53:17,100 --> 02:53:19,100
want to.

5689
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:22,100
It's more than the question

5690
02:53:22,100 --> 02:53:23,100
about third party and some

5691
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:25,100
of the other side issues.

5692
02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:27,100
Anyway good conversation.

5693
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:29,100
He's not speaking in the

5694
02:53:29,100 --> 02:53:31,100
conference.

5695
02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:35,601
I'm not giving up so easy.

5696
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:58,401
All right let's go.

5697
02:54:19,100 --> 02:54:20,100
I can't believe everyone left

5698
02:54:20,100 --> 02:54:22,401
with this exciting topic.

5699
02:54:25,100 --> 02:54:26,100
Okay we're going

5700
02:54:26,100 --> 02:54:28,100
to reconvene.

5701
02:54:35,100 --> 02:54:38,100
Okay moving on to item 11.

5702
02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:40,100
The Broadway grade separation

5703
02:54:40,100 --> 02:54:42,100
project update and request

5704
02:54:42,100 --> 02:54:45,100
for City Council direction. I

5705
02:54:45,100 --> 02:54:47,401
presume that Director Murtaza

5706
02:54:48,100 --> 02:54:50,100
is going to lead the beginning

5707
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:51,100
of this discussion.

5708
02:54:51,100 --> 02:54:53,100
So take it away. Well thank you

5709
02:54:53,100 --> 02:54:54,100
Mr. Mayor and Council.

5710
02:54:54,100 --> 02:54:56,100
I'll do a brief introduction

5711
02:54:56,100 --> 02:54:58,100
and we have Caltrain team here.

5712
02:54:58,100 --> 02:54:59,100
Rob Bernard, Capital Program

5713
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,401
Director and Navi Dhaliwal.

5714
02:55:03,100 --> 02:55:04,100
She's a Government and

5715
02:55:04,100 --> 02:55:06,100
Community Affairs Manager.

5716
02:55:06,100 --> 02:55:07,100
They will walk through the

5717
02:55:07,100 --> 02:55:09,100
presentation. I just wanted

5718
02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:11,100
to let the City Council

5719
02:55:11,100 --> 02:55:12,100
at large and the members of the

5720
02:55:12,100 --> 02:55:14,100
community know that staff has

5721
02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:16,100
been working really hard

5722
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:17,100
on this project for last

5723
02:55:17,100 --> 02:55:19,100
several months especially

5724
02:55:19,100 --> 02:55:22,100
in the context of that when we

5725
02:55:22,100 --> 02:55:23,100
were told that the cost

5726
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:24,100
of this project Broadway grade

5727
02:55:24,100 --> 02:55:26,100
separation project has

5728
02:55:26,100 --> 02:55:28,100
skyrocketed and so staff has

5729
02:55:28,100 --> 02:55:30,100
been working with Caltrain and

5730
02:55:30,100 --> 02:55:31,100
Transportation Authority

5731
02:55:31,100 --> 02:55:33,100
to look at different options to

5732
02:55:33,100 --> 02:55:35,100
reduce the cost and what you

5733
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:37,100
have tonight is a number

5734
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:39,100
of options that have been

5735
02:55:39,100 --> 02:55:41,100
looked at and what those costs

5736
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:43,100
are and one of those options

5737
02:55:43,100 --> 02:55:46,100
include no train station and

5738
02:55:46,100 --> 02:55:48,401
the City Council Subcommittee

5739
02:55:49,100 --> 02:55:50,100
consisting of Mayor Stevenson

5740
02:55:50,100 --> 02:55:52,100
and Council Member Colson have

5741
02:55:52,100 --> 02:55:53,100
looked at these presentations

5742
02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:55,100
before and staff has been

5743
02:55:55,100 --> 02:55:58,100
closely working with the City

5744
02:55:58,100 --> 02:56:00,100
Council Subcommittee to look at

5745
02:56:00,100 --> 02:56:02,100
different options including the

5746
02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:04,100
meeting on February 3rd earlier

5747
02:56:04,100 --> 02:56:05,100
this year and as well as the

5748
02:56:05,100 --> 02:56:07,100
meeting this afternoon to look

5749
02:56:07,100 --> 02:56:09,100
at funding options. So

5750
02:56:09,100 --> 02:56:10,100
with that I will introduce

5751
02:56:10,100 --> 02:56:12,401
Navi Dhaliwal and Rob

5752
02:56:13,100 --> 02:56:15,100
Bernard.

5753
02:56:22,100 --> 02:56:23,100
Good evening Mayor Stevenson,

5754
02:56:23,100 --> 02:56:25,100
Vice Mayor Brownrigg, esteemed

5755
02:56:25,100 --> 02:56:26,100
Council Members, City staff and

5756
02:56:26,100 --> 02:56:28,100
members of the Burlingame

5757
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:29,100
community. My name is Navi

5758
02:56:29,100 --> 02:56:31,100
Dhaliwal and I'm Caltrain's

5759
02:56:31,100 --> 02:56:32,100
Manager of Government

5760
02:56:32,100 --> 02:56:34,100
Community Affairs. Tonight I am

5761
02:56:34,100 --> 02:56:35,100
joined by my Chief of Design

5762
02:56:35,100 --> 02:56:36,100
and Construction Robert

5763
02:56:36,100 --> 02:56:37,100
Bernard who will be speaking

5764
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:39,100
later in this presentation.

5765
02:56:39,100 --> 02:56:41,100
Thank you for the opportunity

5766
02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:42,100
to provide this update on

5767
02:56:42,100 --> 02:56:43,100
Caltrain's ongoing safety

5768
02:56:43,100 --> 02:56:44,100
enhancements and our efforts

5769
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:45,100
to advance the Broadway

5770
02:56:45,100 --> 02:56:47,100
Burlingame grade project.

5771
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:50,100
We'll be diving

5772
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:52,100
into current safety

5773
02:56:52,100 --> 02:56:53,100
improvements on Caltrain

5774
02:56:53,100 --> 02:56:55,100
focusing on both the immediate

5775
02:56:55,100 --> 02:56:56,100
actions underway and the

5776
02:56:56,100 --> 02:56:57,100
long-term strategies needed

5777
02:56:57,100 --> 02:56:58,100
to upgrade and enhance safety

5778
02:56:58,100 --> 02:57:00,100
across the system. We'll start

5779
02:57:00,100 --> 02:57:01,100
with an overview of the

5780
02:57:01,100 --> 02:57:03,100
background and key

5781
02:57:03,100 --> 02:57:04,100
considerations that have shaped

5782
02:57:04,100 --> 02:57:05,100
our approach.

5783
02:57:05,100 --> 02:57:06,100
From there we'll walk through

5784
02:57:06,100 --> 02:57:07,100
the cost estimates and trends

5785
02:57:07,100 --> 02:57:08,100
highlighting how financial

5786
02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:10,100
projections have evolved and

5787
02:57:10,100 --> 02:57:11,100
what they mean

5788
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:13,100
for decision making.

5789
02:57:13,100 --> 02:57:14,100
Next we'll explore value

5790
02:57:14,100 --> 02:57:15,100
engineering and option analysis

5791
02:57:15,100 --> 02:57:18,100
looking at ways to optimize

5792
02:57:18,100 --> 02:57:19,100
safety investments while

5793
02:57:19,100 --> 02:57:21,100
maintaining effectiveness.

5794
02:57:21,100 --> 02:57:22,100
We'll then discuss the funding

5795
02:57:22,100 --> 02:57:24,100
strategy, outlining potential

5796
02:57:24,100 --> 02:57:25,100
sources and key funding

5797
02:57:25,100 --> 02:57:27,401
challenges. Finally we'll close

5798
02:57:28,100 --> 02:57:30,100
with next steps ensuring

5799
02:57:30,100 --> 02:57:31,100
alignment on priorities and

5800
02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:33,100
upcoming actions.

5801
02:57:33,100 --> 02:57:36,100
With that let's get started.

5802
02:57:36,100 --> 02:57:38,100
So just to touch on the recent

5803
02:57:38,100 --> 02:57:39,100
and ongoing safety

5804
02:57:39,100 --> 02:57:41,100
improvements. This past year

5805
02:57:41,100 --> 02:57:43,100
Rail Sentry which is an AI

5806
02:57:43,100 --> 02:57:45,100
solution was successfully

5807
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:47,100
installed at the crossing and

5808
02:57:47,100 --> 02:57:49,100
this AI utilizes LiDAR and

5809
02:57:49,100 --> 02:57:50,100
cameras

5810
02:57:50,100 --> 02:57:52,100
to detect pedestrians,

5811
02:57:52,100 --> 02:57:54,100
cyclists and cars on our tracks

5812
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:56,100
and alerts railroad operations

5813
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:59,100
to prevent a collision. This

5814
02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:00,100
AI-based software analyzes data

5815
02:58:00,100 --> 02:58:02,401
and alerts Caltrain dispatchers

5816
02:58:03,100 --> 02:58:04,100
and transit police

5817
02:58:04,100 --> 02:58:06,401
of potential risks. Data

5818
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:08,100
collected helps refine traffic

5819
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:09,100
control measures reducing

5820
02:58:09,100 --> 02:58:11,100
congestion and improving

5821
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:13,100
vehicle movements

5822
02:58:13,100 --> 02:58:15,100
near crossings. This is

5823
02:58:15,100 --> 02:58:16,100
especially critical when

5824
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:17,100
talking about the Broadway

5825
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:18,100
Burlingame grade crossing and

5826
02:58:18,100 --> 02:58:20,100
it's why we implemented this

5827
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:22,100
software here first and we're

5828
02:58:22,100 --> 02:58:24,100
looking to implement it just

5829
02:58:24,100 --> 02:58:26,100
down the corridor in Palo Alto

5830
02:58:26,100 --> 02:58:28,100
at the Churchill Avenue grade

5831
02:58:28,100 --> 02:58:30,100
crossing. Additionally we also

5832
02:58:30,100 --> 02:58:32,100
installed new solar-powered

5833
02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:33,100
road markers last month

5834
02:58:33,100 --> 02:58:35,100
at the Burlingame crossing.

5835
02:58:35,100 --> 02:58:37,100
This clearly delineates roadway

5836
02:58:37,100 --> 02:58:38,100
boundaries to prevent vehicles

5837
02:58:38,100 --> 02:58:40,100
from turning too far onto the

5838
02:58:40,100 --> 02:58:42,100
tracks similar to pedestrian

5839
02:58:42,100 --> 02:58:44,100
crossing markers enhancing

5840
02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:46,100
visibility.

5841
02:58:46,100 --> 02:58:47,100
Additionally we upgraded

5842
02:58:47,100 --> 02:58:48,100
crossing surfaces in late 2024

5843
02:58:48,100 --> 02:58:49,100
with railroad tie replacement

5844
02:58:49,100 --> 02:58:50,100
and upgraded concrete panels.

5845
02:58:50,100 --> 02:58:52,401
This provides a smoother

5846
02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:56,100
surface reducing the risk

5847
02:58:56,100 --> 02:58:57,100
of vehicles getting stuck

5848
02:58:57,100 --> 02:59:00,100
on the tracks. Folks are

5849
02:59:00,100 --> 02:59:01,100
definitely excited about it.

5850
02:59:01,100 --> 02:59:02,100
Yeah just to be clear it's

5851
02:59:02,100 --> 02:59:04,100
like when people say

5852
02:59:04,100 --> 02:59:05,100
to me I had no idea this was

5853
02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:06,100
on the agenda. There were 200

5854
02:59:06,100 --> 02:59:08,100
people sitting here tonight

5855
02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:10,100
remembering tonight. So

5856
02:59:12,100 --> 02:59:13,100
additional enhancements coming

5857
02:59:13,100 --> 02:59:14,100
into 2025. We're going

5858
02:59:14,100 --> 02:59:15,100
to update the paint stripings

5859
02:59:15,100 --> 02:59:17,100
to improve lane clarity. We're

5860
02:59:17,100 --> 02:59:19,100
going to add new signage to

5861
02:59:19,100 --> 02:59:20,100
better direct drivers and

5862
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:21,100
pedestrians. We're going to

5863
02:59:21,100 --> 02:59:23,100
install flexible reflective

5864
02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:24,100
delineator posts to help reduce

5865
02:59:24,100 --> 02:59:26,100
speeds and guide drivers safely

5866
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:28,100
and then additionally Caltrain

5867
02:59:28,100 --> 02:59:30,100
has been actively working with

5868
02:59:30,100 --> 02:59:32,100
our GPS navigation systems

5869
02:59:32,100 --> 02:59:33,100
including Google, Apple, and

5870
02:59:33,100 --> 02:59:35,100
Waze to enhance navigation

5871
02:59:35,100 --> 02:59:36,100
instructions preventing drivers

5872
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:38,100
from mistakenly stopping on

5873
02:59:38,100 --> 02:59:40,100
tracks and that happens more

5874
02:59:40,100 --> 02:59:42,100
than folks really like estimate

5875
02:59:42,100 --> 02:59:44,100
and understand and so this has

5876
02:59:44,100 --> 02:59:46,100
been a true win for Caltrain

5877
02:59:46,100 --> 02:59:49,100
and the larger region. These

5878
02:59:49,100 --> 02:59:51,100
ongoing efforts really

5879
02:59:51,100 --> 02:59:52,100
demonstrate our dedication

5880
02:59:52,100 --> 02:59:54,100
to making the crossing safer

5881
02:59:54,100 --> 02:59:55,100
for rail passengers and the

5882
02:59:55,100 --> 02:59:56,100
broader community in the

5883
02:59:56,100 --> 02:59:58,100
near term.

5884
02:59:58,100 --> 02:59:59,100
We deeply appreciate the City

5885
02:59:59,100 --> 03:00:00,100
of Burlingame support in

5886
03:00:00,100 --> 03:00:01,100
advancing these efforts and we

5887
03:00:01,100 --> 03:00:02,000
recognize the the community's

5888
03:00:02,000 --> 03:00:03,100
vested interest in ensuring a

5889
03:00:03,100 --> 03:00:04,100
safe and efficient rail

5890
03:00:04,100 --> 03:00:06,100
corridor.

5891
03:00:07,100 --> 03:00:09,100
To frame today's discussion,

5892
03:00:09,100 --> 03:00:10,100
it is important

5893
03:00:10,100 --> 03:00:11,100
to highlight the partnership

5894
03:00:11,100 --> 03:00:12,100
at play with respect to the

5895
03:00:12,100 --> 03:00:13,100
Broadway-Burlingame grade

5896
03:00:13,100 --> 03:00:15,100
separation project.

5897
03:00:15,100 --> 03:00:16,100
Caltrain is the lead

5898
03:00:16,100 --> 03:00:18,100
implementing agency as the

5899
03:00:18,100 --> 03:00:19,100
project requires modifications

5900
03:00:19,100 --> 03:00:21,100
to safety critical systems

5901
03:00:21,100 --> 03:00:23,100
on our operating railroad.

5902
03:00:23,100 --> 03:00:25,100
San Mateo County

5903
03:00:25,100 --> 03:00:26,100
Transportation Authority is the

5904
03:00:26,100 --> 03:00:28,100
funding partner.

5905
03:00:28,100 --> 03:00:29,100
The City of Burlingame is the

5906
03:00:29,100 --> 03:00:30,100
project sponsor, and from

5907
03:00:30,100 --> 03:00:32,100
Caltrain's perspective, the

5908
03:00:32,100 --> 03:00:33,100
City of Burlingame is the

5909
03:00:33,100 --> 03:00:34,100
client.

5910
03:00:34,100 --> 03:00:35,100
As we move forward, we are

5911
03:00:35,100 --> 03:00:36,100
committed to ongoing

5912
03:00:36,100 --> 03:00:38,100
collaboration not only with

5913
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:39,100
City Council leaders here

5914
03:00:39,100 --> 03:00:41,100
today, staff, and the broader

5915
03:00:41,100 --> 03:00:42,100
Burlingame community

5916
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:44,100
to ensure this project aligns

5917
03:00:44,100 --> 03:00:46,100
with local needs and

5918
03:00:46,100 --> 03:00:48,100
priorities.

5919
03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:52,100
As many of you know, Broadway

5920
03:00:52,100 --> 03:00:53,100
is one

5921
03:00:53,100 --> 03:00:54,100
of the highest ranked crossings

5922
03:00:54,100 --> 03:00:55,100
for grade separation in

5923
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:57,100
California.

5924
03:00:57,100 --> 03:00:58,100
The California Public

5925
03:00:58,100 --> 03:00:59,100
Utilities Commission designated

5926
03:00:59,100 --> 03:01:01,100
it as a high-priority location

5927
03:01:01,100 --> 03:01:03,100
due to safety risks,

5928
03:01:03,100 --> 03:01:04,100
congestion, and train-vehicle

5929
03:01:04,100 --> 03:01:06,100
conflict potential.

5930
03:01:06,100 --> 03:01:08,100
In general, what we know is

5931
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:09,100
grade separations improve

5932
03:01:09,100 --> 03:01:11,100
public safety, traffic flow,

5933
03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:12,100
and train reliability

5934
03:01:12,100 --> 03:01:14,100
in highly urbanized corridors

5935
03:01:14,100 --> 03:01:16,100
like Burlingame.

5936
03:01:16,100 --> 03:01:17,100
I want to begin by sharing just

5937
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:18,100
a few project goals and

5938
03:01:18,100 --> 03:01:20,100
benefits.

5939
03:01:21,100 --> 03:01:22,100
Grade separations aim

5940
03:01:22,100 --> 03:01:23,100
to enhance safety by

5941
03:01:23,100 --> 03:01:24,100
eliminating vehicle and

5942
03:01:24,100 --> 03:01:25,100
pedestrian conflicts

5943
03:01:25,100 --> 03:01:26,100
with trains,

5944
03:01:26,100 --> 03:01:27,100
improve local and regional

5945
03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:28,100
mobility, support Caltrain

5946
03:01:28,100 --> 03:01:30,100
modernization and increase

5947
03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:31,100
service frequencies

5948
03:01:31,100 --> 03:01:32,100
in this region particularly,

5949
03:01:32,100 --> 03:01:34,401
and ensure long sustainability

5950
03:01:35,100 --> 03:01:37,100
for current electrified

5951
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:39,100
Caltrain service and potential

5952
03:01:39,100 --> 03:01:41,100
high-speed rail integration.

5953
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:44,100
To remind the Council and

5954
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:45,100
members

5955
03:01:45,100 --> 03:01:46,100
of the public here today, the

5956
03:01:46,100 --> 03:01:47,100
project features include grade

5957
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:48,100
separation at Broadway

5958
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:50,401
with the City's 65% design,

5959
03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:53,100
elevating Caltrain's tracks,

5960
03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:54,100
allowing vehicles and

5961
03:01:54,100 --> 03:01:55,100
pedestrians

5962
03:01:55,100 --> 03:01:56,100
to pass underneath,

5963
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:57,100
we're envisioning a Broadway

5964
03:01:57,100 --> 03:01:58,100
station

5965
03:01:58,100 --> 03:01:59,100
with center boarding platforms,

5966
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:00,100
improving accessibility and

5967
03:02:00,100 --> 03:02:02,100
transit connections.

5968
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:04,100
We wanted to maintain in this

5969
03:02:04,100 --> 03:02:05,100
concept local access north and

5970
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:06,100
south of Broadway

5971
03:02:06,100 --> 03:02:08,100
for traffic and businesses.

5972
03:02:08,100 --> 03:02:10,100
Additionally, this project

5973
03:02:10,100 --> 03:02:12,100
contemplated temporary

5974
03:02:12,100 --> 03:02:14,100
two-track electrified shoe

5975
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:15,100
flies,

5976
03:02:15,100 --> 03:02:16,100
ensuring continued train

5977
03:02:16,100 --> 03:02:17,100
service during construction.

5978
03:02:17,100 --> 03:02:19,100
We had creek locations at

5979
03:02:19,100 --> 03:02:21,100
Easton and Sanchez Creeks

5980
03:02:21,100 --> 03:02:22,100
necessary to accommodate this

5981
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:24,100
new infrastructure, and

5982
03:02:24,100 --> 03:02:26,100
additionally bike and

5983
03:02:26,100 --> 03:02:28,100
pedestrian connections at

5984
03:02:28,100 --> 03:02:29,100
Cadillac Way and Carmelita

5985
03:02:29,100 --> 03:02:30,100
Avenue.

5986
03:02:30,100 --> 03:02:31,100
I'd like to now turn it over

5987
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:32,100
to Mr. Bernard, Caltrain's

5988
03:02:32,100 --> 03:02:33,100
Chief of Design and

5989
03:02:33,100 --> 03:02:34,100
Construction,

5990
03:02:34,100 --> 03:02:36,100
for further discussion.

5991
03:02:36,100 --> 03:02:38,100
Thank you.

5992
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:47,100
Good evening, Mayor, Vice

5993
03:02:47,100 --> 03:02:49,100
Mayor, Council Members, Rob

5994
03:02:49,100 --> 03:02:50,100
Bernard, Chief of Rail Design

5995
03:02:50,100 --> 03:02:51,100
and Construction.

5996
03:02:51,100 --> 03:02:53,100
I'd like to begin

5997
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:55,100
by sharing information

5998
03:02:55,100 --> 03:02:57,100
on recent project activities.

5999
03:02:57,100 --> 03:02:59,100
For context,

6000
03:02:59,100 --> 03:03:00,100
as the project moved

6001
03:03:00,100 --> 03:03:01,100
from 35% design

6002
03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:03,100
to 65% design,

6003
03:03:04,100 --> 03:03:06,100
three estimates were done by

6004
03:03:06,100 --> 03:03:08,401
three separate design firms.

6005
03:03:09,100 --> 03:03:10,100
The estimated results for all

6006
03:03:10,100 --> 03:03:12,100
of those were very similar,

6007
03:03:12,100 --> 03:03:14,100
but it's important to

6008
03:03:14,100 --> 03:03:16,100
understand what they assumed.

6009
03:03:16,100 --> 03:03:17,100
They assumed that given this

6010
03:03:17,100 --> 03:03:19,100
project was number one on

6011
03:03:19,100 --> 03:03:20,100
California's Public Utility

6012
03:03:20,100 --> 03:03:22,100
Commission's priority list,

6013
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:24,100
that it would be funded and

6014
03:03:24,100 --> 03:03:26,100
would get into construction

6015
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:28,100
in 2024.

6016
03:03:28,100 --> 03:03:30,100
However, some of the grants

6017
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:31,100
that were applied for,

6018
03:03:31,100 --> 03:03:34,100
the money was not received.

6019
03:03:34,100 --> 03:03:36,100
Some prior approved funding was

6020
03:03:36,100 --> 03:03:37,100
delayed.

6021
03:03:37,100 --> 03:03:40,100
This is a complex project.

6022
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:42,100
There are seven bridges and

6023
03:03:42,100 --> 03:03:43,100
structures to build.

6024
03:03:43,100 --> 03:03:45,100
Work is near six creeks.

6025
03:03:45,100 --> 03:03:47,401
Two creeks require relocation,

6026
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:50,100
and it's in an electrified

6027
03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:52,100
operating railroad environment.

6028
03:03:52,100 --> 03:03:54,100
And we are in a post-pandemic

6029
03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:56,100
world where the construction

6030
03:03:56,100 --> 03:03:58,401
market remains highly volatile.

6031
03:04:00,100 --> 03:04:01,100
Given these unique project

6032
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,100
characteristics, risks,

6033
03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:06,100
and the market conditions,

6034
03:04:06,100 --> 03:04:07,100
the project team,

6035
03:04:07,100 --> 03:04:09,100
with the help of the City and

6036
03:04:09,100 --> 03:04:11,100
the TA and Caltrain, did an

6037
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:12,100
analysis to determine an

6038
03:04:12,100 --> 03:04:14,100
optimal delivery method.

6039
03:04:16,100 --> 03:04:18,100
Construction Manager General

6040
03:04:18,100 --> 03:04:20,100
Contractor Delivery Method,

6041
03:04:20,100 --> 03:04:22,100
CMGC, was selected.

6042
03:04:24,100 --> 03:04:26,100
The benefits of this method is

6043
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:28,100
to provide that early

6044
03:04:28,100 --> 03:04:30,100
contractor involvement

6045
03:04:30,100 --> 03:04:31,100
before the drawings are

6046
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:33,100
at 100% design.

6047
03:04:33,100 --> 03:04:34,100
So you don't get the 100%

6048
03:04:34,100 --> 03:04:35,100
design and then get a price

6049
03:04:35,100 --> 03:04:37,100
from a contractor.

6050
03:04:38,100 --> 03:04:39,100
You get your price from the

6051
03:04:39,100 --> 03:04:40,100
contractor while you're still

6052
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:41,100
doing design.

6053
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:43,100
This provides that commercial

6054
03:04:43,100 --> 03:04:44,100
pricing when you're working

6055
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:47,100
on design and also allows you

6056
03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:49,401
to explore contract options

6057
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:52,100
to support decision-making.

6058
03:04:53,100 --> 03:04:56,100
So in October of 2023, the

6059
03:04:56,100 --> 03:04:58,401
SMCTA board allocated funds

6060
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:01,401
for the CMGC contract

6061
03:05:02,100 --> 03:05:04,401
to support this approach.

6062
03:05:05,100 --> 03:05:06,100
As a complement to that, in

6063
03:05:06,100 --> 03:05:08,100
December of 23, Caltrain

6064
03:05:09,100 --> 03:05:11,100
awarded a contract with Kelly

6065
03:05:11,100 --> 03:05:13,100
McNutt Consulting, KMC.

6066
03:05:15,100 --> 03:05:17,100
This provides a

6067
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:18,100
contractor-style estimating

6068
03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:21,100
resource for the project team.

6069
03:05:21,100 --> 03:05:23,100
KMC provides an independent

6070
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:24,100
cost estimator

6071
03:05:24,100 --> 03:05:26,100
to support the evaluation

6072
03:05:26,100 --> 03:05:28,100
of the CMGC's price to make

6073
03:05:28,100 --> 03:05:30,100
sure we're getting a fair price

6074
03:05:30,100 --> 03:05:32,100
from the contractor.

6075
03:05:32,100 --> 03:05:34,100
In February of 2024, the

6076
03:05:34,100 --> 03:05:36,100
contract was awarded with

6077
03:05:36,100 --> 03:05:38,100
Flatiron Herzog, a joint

6078
03:05:38,100 --> 03:05:40,100
venture.

6079
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:42,100
In August of 2024, the initial

6080
03:05:42,100 --> 03:05:44,401
commercial pricing was received

6081
03:05:45,100 --> 03:05:47,100
from both the CMGC, Flatiron

6082
03:05:47,100 --> 03:05:50,100
Herzog, and KMC, the owner's

6083
03:05:51,100 --> 03:05:53,100
independent cost estimator.

6084
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:55,401
These range from $527 million

6085
03:05:56,100 --> 03:05:58,100
to $590 million

6086
03:05:58,100 --> 03:05:59,100
for construction portion

6087
03:05:59,100 --> 03:06:01,100
of it.

6088
03:06:01,100 --> 03:06:03,100
These were significantly higher

6089
03:06:03,100 --> 03:06:05,100
than the prior estimates done

6090
03:06:05,100 --> 03:06:07,100
by the design teams.

6091
03:06:07,100 --> 03:06:08,100
With these results,

6092
03:06:08,100 --> 03:06:09,100
the team focused

6093
03:06:09,100 --> 03:06:10,100
on developing an understanding

6094
03:06:10,100 --> 03:06:13,601
of what were the key cost

6095
03:06:14,100 --> 03:06:16,100
factors that were driving this

6096
03:06:16,100 --> 03:06:17,100
price,

6097
03:06:17,100 --> 03:06:18,100
and what was the difference

6098
03:06:18,100 --> 03:06:20,100
between our original estimate

6099
03:06:20,100 --> 03:06:21,100
and these new estimates,

6100
03:06:21,100 --> 03:06:23,100
and looking

6101
03:06:24,100 --> 03:06:25,100
to develop alternatives

6102
03:06:25,100 --> 03:06:27,100
to lower cost.

6103
03:06:27,100 --> 03:06:28,100
At this time, the team did not

6104
03:06:28,100 --> 03:06:29,100
refresh the cost estimate

6105
03:06:29,100 --> 03:06:32,100
for the total project cost.

6106
03:06:32,100 --> 03:06:33,100
We turned our focus

6107
03:06:33,100 --> 03:06:35,100
on solving the problem.

6108
03:06:35,100 --> 03:06:36,100
But at the time, we did

6109
03:06:36,100 --> 03:06:37,100
indicate that the total project

6110
03:06:37,100 --> 03:06:39,100
cost was going to be well

6111
03:06:39,100 --> 03:06:41,401
in excess of $600 million.

6112
03:06:45,100 --> 03:06:46,100
With this commercial pricing

6113
03:06:46,100 --> 03:06:47,100
for construction being

6114
03:06:47,100 --> 03:06:49,100
significantly higher,

6115
03:06:49,100 --> 03:06:50,100
it was important

6116
03:06:50,100 --> 03:06:51,100
to understand the differences

6117
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:52,100
between those two estimates.

6118
03:06:52,100 --> 03:06:54,100
First of all,

6119
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:56,100
the design had changed.

6120
03:06:56,100 --> 03:06:59,100
The drawings used by the design

6121
03:06:59,100 --> 03:07:01,401
consultants were the early 65%

6122
03:07:02,100 --> 03:07:04,100
set.

6123
03:07:04,100 --> 03:07:05,100
That set was updated

6124
03:07:05,100 --> 03:07:08,100
after the review comments, and

6125
03:07:08,100 --> 03:07:10,100
the CMGC and our independent

6126
03:07:10,100 --> 03:07:12,100
cost estimators used the

6127
03:07:12,100 --> 03:07:14,100
updated sets.

6128
03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,100
The drawings had been changed.

6129
03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:17,100
The sizes of structural and

6130
03:07:17,100 --> 03:07:18,100
members had increased.

6131
03:07:18,100 --> 03:07:20,100
We added new foundation types,

6132
03:07:20,100 --> 03:07:21,100
which increased cost

6133
03:07:21,100 --> 03:07:23,100
significantly.

6134
03:07:23,100 --> 03:07:24,100
Those costs were not included

6135
03:07:24,100 --> 03:07:26,100
in the prior estimate.

6136
03:07:26,100 --> 03:07:28,100
Also, the intended

6137
03:07:28,100 --> 03:07:30,100
groundbreaking was delayed.

6138
03:07:30,100 --> 03:07:33,100
The designers assumed that we'd

6139
03:07:33,100 --> 03:07:34,100
be into construction in May

6140
03:07:34,100 --> 03:07:36,100
of 2024.

6141
03:07:36,100 --> 03:07:37,100
The enabling right-of-way

6142
03:07:37,100 --> 03:07:39,100
activities and funding was not

6143
03:07:39,100 --> 03:07:40,100
secured.

6144
03:07:40,100 --> 03:07:42,100
So the CMGC and our independent

6145
03:07:42,100 --> 03:07:44,100
estimators assumed construction

6146
03:07:45,100 --> 03:07:46,100
would be two years later

6147
03:07:46,100 --> 03:07:48,401
before we started work.

6148
03:07:49,100 --> 03:07:50,100
There were also environmental

6149
03:07:50,100 --> 03:07:52,100
and operational constraints.

6150
03:07:53,100 --> 03:07:55,100
The designers assumed an

6151
03:07:55,100 --> 03:07:56,100
aggressive 40-month

6152
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:58,100
construction schedule.

6153
03:07:58,100 --> 03:08:00,100
The contractor's initial

6154
03:08:00,100 --> 03:08:01,100
constructability review

6155
03:08:01,100 --> 03:08:03,401
forecasted a longer duration,

6156
03:08:04,100 --> 03:08:06,100
from 59 to 70 months.

6157
03:08:07,100 --> 03:08:08,100
This duration was the result

6158
03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:10,100
of a variety of things, one,

6159
03:08:10,100 --> 03:08:12,100
the increased foundations that

6160
03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:14,100
added to the project, the need

6161
03:08:14,100 --> 03:08:16,100
to relocate work in creeks that

6162
03:08:16,100 --> 03:08:18,401
had in-water work restrictions,

6163
03:08:19,100 --> 03:08:21,100
and the available work windows

6164
03:08:21,100 --> 03:08:22,100
in the electrified environment

6165
03:08:22,100 --> 03:08:23,100
with the increased service that

6166
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:24,100
Caltrain's put out

6167
03:08:24,100 --> 03:08:26,100
on the street.

6168
03:08:26,100 --> 03:08:28,100
With these, the midpoint

6169
03:08:28,100 --> 03:08:30,100
of construction moved

6170
03:08:30,100 --> 03:08:31,100
about three years in time,

6171
03:08:31,100 --> 03:08:33,100
adding cost.

6172
03:08:33,100 --> 03:08:34,100
The duration got longer,

6173
03:08:34,100 --> 03:08:35,100
adding cost for overseeing

6174
03:08:35,100 --> 03:08:36,100
of the management

6175
03:08:36,100 --> 03:08:38,100
of the work.

6176
03:08:38,100 --> 03:08:39,100
And also, there was a

6177
03:08:39,100 --> 03:08:41,100
post-pandemic bid climate.

6178
03:08:42,100 --> 03:08:43,100
As we all know,

6179
03:08:43,100 --> 03:08:45,100
construction costs increased,

6180
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:46,100
both labor costs, material

6181
03:08:46,100 --> 03:08:48,100
costs, we have a fragile supply

6182
03:08:48,100 --> 03:08:50,100
chain.

6183
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:51,100
Although escalation was

6184
03:08:51,100 --> 03:08:53,100
estimated

6185
03:08:53,100 --> 03:08:54,100
by the design teams, what

6186
03:08:54,100 --> 03:08:56,401
actually happened far exceeded

6187
03:08:57,100 --> 03:08:59,401
that from their forecast.

6188
03:09:04,100 --> 03:09:05,100
With that, the team focused

6189
03:09:05,100 --> 03:09:07,100
on driving for solutions based

6190
03:09:07,100 --> 03:09:08,100
on those key cost drivers.

6191
03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:10,100
First, the footprint.

6192
03:09:13,100 --> 03:09:14,100
How do we make the improvements

6193
03:09:14,100 --> 03:09:16,100
smaller?

6194
03:09:16,100 --> 03:09:18,100
So the platform configuration

6195
03:09:18,100 --> 03:09:19,100
that had been originally

6196
03:09:19,100 --> 03:09:20,100
designed was a center board

6197
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:21,100
platform, which is what

6198
03:09:21,100 --> 03:09:22,100
Caltrain's standard criteria

6199
03:09:22,100 --> 03:09:24,100
is.

6200
03:09:24,100 --> 03:09:26,100
Looked at changing it to a side

6201
03:09:26,100 --> 03:09:28,100
platform, which narrows the

6202
03:09:28,100 --> 03:09:30,100
overall improvement.

6203
03:09:31,100 --> 03:09:32,100
Caltrain's design standard is

6204
03:09:32,100 --> 03:09:35,100
for a 10-car train platform.

6205
03:09:35,100 --> 03:09:36,100
Looked at changing that

6206
03:09:36,100 --> 03:09:39,601
to a 7-car, make it shorter.

6207
03:09:40,100 --> 03:09:42,100
Over the last year, we've

6208
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:43,100
changed our design criteria

6209
03:09:43,100 --> 03:09:45,100
to allow the rail grade to go

6210
03:09:45,100 --> 03:09:46,100
from 1%

6211
03:09:46,100 --> 03:09:49,100
to 2% and allow the footprint

6212
03:09:49,100 --> 03:09:51,100
to get smaller.

6213
03:09:52,100 --> 03:09:53,100
We also looked at deferring the

6214
03:09:53,100 --> 03:09:55,100
station or eliminating the

6215
03:09:55,100 --> 03:09:57,100
station.

6216
03:09:57,100 --> 03:09:58,100
Then we turned our focus

6217
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:00,100
on those structural changes,

6218
03:10:00,100 --> 03:10:01,100
looking for alternative

6219
03:10:01,100 --> 03:10:03,100
foundation types that still

6220
03:10:03,100 --> 03:10:04,100
accomplish the need but

6221
03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:06,401
at a lower cost.

6222
03:10:07,100 --> 03:10:08,100
We also focused

6223
03:10:08,100 --> 03:10:10,100
on temporary facilities.

6224
03:10:11,100 --> 03:10:12,100
Is there a way

6225
03:10:12,100 --> 03:10:13,100
to eliminate the need to build

6226
03:10:13,100 --> 03:10:15,401
an electrified two-track shoe

6227
03:10:16,100 --> 03:10:18,100
fly

6228
03:10:18,100 --> 03:10:20,401
around all the improvements?

6229
03:10:21,100 --> 03:10:22,100
Is there a way to use existing

6230
03:10:22,100 --> 03:10:24,100
tracks as a shoe fly instead

6231
03:10:24,100 --> 03:10:26,100
of building a temporary one?

6232
03:10:26,100 --> 03:10:28,100
When the footprint got

6233
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:30,100
narrower, it allowed us to

6234
03:10:30,100 --> 03:10:33,100
change the alignment and move

6235
03:10:33,100 --> 03:10:34,100
the improvements over to

6236
03:10:34,100 --> 03:10:36,100
Carolyn as opposed to

6237
03:10:36,100 --> 03:10:38,100
over the existing tracks.

6238
03:10:38,100 --> 03:10:40,100
That allows us to use the

6239
03:10:40,100 --> 03:10:42,100
existing tracks as a shoe fly

6240
03:10:42,100 --> 03:10:44,401
to save that money.

6241
03:10:45,100 --> 03:10:46,100
We wanted

6242
03:10:46,100 --> 03:10:47,100
to go one step farther,

6243
03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:49,401
looking at production rates.

6244
03:10:50,100 --> 03:10:52,100
Code does not allow work

6245
03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:55,100
within 10 feet of the 25 kV

6246
03:10:55,100 --> 03:10:57,100
electrified system.

6247
03:10:58,100 --> 03:11:01,100
Our current revenue service is

6248
03:11:01,100 --> 03:11:03,100
only four hours at night when

6249
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:05,100
the system is powered down.

6250
03:11:05,100 --> 03:11:07,100
On the weekends, it's powered

6251
03:11:07,100 --> 03:11:08,100
down

6252
03:11:08,100 --> 03:11:09,100
for six and a half hours.

6253
03:11:09,100 --> 03:11:10,100
That's not a lot of time

6254
03:11:10,100 --> 03:11:11,100
to get work done.

6255
03:11:11,100 --> 03:11:12,100
So we looked at,

6256
03:11:12,100 --> 03:11:13,100
is there a way

6257
03:11:13,100 --> 03:11:15,100
to isolate the work?

6258
03:11:15,100 --> 03:11:16,100
With a single track shoe fly,

6259
03:11:16,100 --> 03:11:18,100
putting

6260
03:11:18,100 --> 03:11:19,100
in positive protection,

6261
03:11:19,100 --> 03:11:21,100
a fence between where we're

6262
03:11:21,100 --> 03:11:22,100
running trains and where the

6263
03:11:22,100 --> 03:11:24,100
contractor is building the

6264
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:25,100
work, you're on your side

6265
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:27,100
of the fence, go to work

6266
03:11:27,100 --> 03:11:29,100
without those restrictions

6267
03:11:29,100 --> 03:11:31,100
to increase production rates,

6268
03:11:31,100 --> 03:11:33,100
reduce duration,

6269
03:11:33,100 --> 03:11:34,100
reduce cost.

6270
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:35,100
So we looked at turning that

6271
03:11:35,100 --> 03:11:37,100
knob.

6272
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:39,100
The next thing we took a look

6273
03:11:39,100 --> 03:11:41,100
at was schedule compression.

6274
03:11:41,100 --> 03:11:42,100
As you heard

6275
03:11:42,100 --> 03:11:43,100
in the prior testimony

6276
03:11:43,100 --> 03:11:46,100
on projects, time is money.

6277
03:11:48,100 --> 03:11:49,100
So with the use of the CMGC

6278
03:11:49,100 --> 03:11:51,401
delivery method provides that

6279
03:11:52,100 --> 03:11:54,100
opportunity for early work

6280
03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:56,100
to overlap design.

6281
03:11:58,100 --> 03:11:59,100
So the team explored how

6282
03:11:59,100 --> 03:12:00,100
to leverage this opportunity

6283
03:12:00,100 --> 03:12:03,100
to reduce schedule and cost,

6284
03:12:05,100 --> 03:12:06,100
such as the early right-of-way

6285
03:12:06,100 --> 03:12:07,100
activities

6286
03:12:07,100 --> 03:12:08,100
to move the right-of-way off

6287
03:12:08,100 --> 03:12:10,100
of the critical path,

6288
03:12:10,100 --> 03:12:12,100
but also enabling work like

6289
03:12:12,100 --> 03:12:14,100
advanced utility relocation.

6290
03:12:15,100 --> 03:12:17,100
This project also has long lead

6291
03:12:17,100 --> 03:12:18,100
materials

6292
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:20,100
for special track work.

6293
03:12:20,100 --> 03:12:21,100
It takes about 18 months

6294
03:12:21,100 --> 03:12:22,100
to get some of that.

6295
03:12:22,100 --> 03:12:24,100
It also has traction power and

6296
03:12:24,100 --> 03:12:25,100
signals.

6297
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:27,100
Some of those require 18 months

6298
03:12:27,100 --> 03:12:28,100
to two years to acquire.

6299
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:31,100
Can we start that work early

6300
03:12:31,100 --> 03:12:33,100
to compress the schedule?

6301
03:12:33,100 --> 03:12:34,100
So we looked

6302
03:12:34,100 --> 03:12:37,601
at using those tools as well.

6303
03:12:39,100 --> 03:12:40,100
So with that toolkit

6304
03:12:40,100 --> 03:12:42,100
of ideas, conceptual packages

6305
03:12:42,100 --> 03:12:44,401
were developed and estimated.

6306
03:12:46,100 --> 03:12:48,100
Note that all these costs

6307
03:12:48,100 --> 03:12:49,100
assume that funding will be

6308
03:12:49,100 --> 03:12:51,100
available

6309
03:12:51,100 --> 03:12:52,100
to timely progress the work.

6310
03:12:52,100 --> 03:12:54,100
Of course, that's uncertain,

6311
03:12:54,100 --> 03:12:55,100
but we had to price it

6312
03:12:55,100 --> 03:12:56,100
with that assumption

6313
03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:58,100
for today.

6314
03:12:58,100 --> 03:13:01,100
H1, shown here on the screen,

6315
03:13:01,100 --> 03:13:03,100
was the original design.

6316
03:13:03,100 --> 03:13:05,100
It's important to note that

6317
03:13:05,100 --> 03:13:06,100
there were limited

6318
03:13:06,100 --> 03:13:07,100
opportunities

6319
03:13:07,100 --> 03:13:09,100
for additional VE

6320
03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:10,100
on this package.

6321
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:12,401
Between January of 21 and

6322
03:13:13,100 --> 03:13:15,100
January of 22, at the start

6323
03:13:15,100 --> 03:13:16,100
of final design, there was a

6324
03:13:16,100 --> 03:13:18,100
value engineering exercise

6325
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:20,100
for option one in order

6326
03:13:20,100 --> 03:13:22,100
to optimize the design, and

6327
03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:23,100
those levers had already been

6328
03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:25,100
pulled.

6329
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:27,100
In terms of key considerations

6330
03:13:27,100 --> 03:13:28,100
for this project,

6331
03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:29,100
it still required

6332
03:13:29,100 --> 03:13:30,100
for package one the relocation

6333
03:13:30,100 --> 03:13:33,100
of Easton Creek, the temporary

6334
03:13:33,100 --> 03:13:34,100
relocation of Sanchez Creek.

6335
03:13:34,100 --> 03:13:36,401
It required extensive shoring,

6336
03:13:39,100 --> 03:13:41,100
soil removal, backfill,

6337
03:13:41,100 --> 03:13:42,100
increasing the cost,

6338
03:13:42,100 --> 03:13:44,100
and complexity.

6339
03:13:45,100 --> 03:13:46,100
It did include the design

6340
03:13:46,100 --> 03:13:48,100
of the center board platform,

6341
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:49,100
which is Caltrain standard

6342
03:13:49,100 --> 03:13:51,100
for customer experience during

6343
03:13:51,100 --> 03:13:53,100
single track operations and

6344
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:55,100
also provides a wider platform

6345
03:13:55,100 --> 03:13:57,100
for queuing and for comfort

6346
03:13:57,100 --> 03:14:00,100
during high speed train passes.

6347
03:14:00,100 --> 03:14:02,100
The results of that work,

6348
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:04,100
as noted earlier, both the

6349
03:14:04,100 --> 03:14:06,100
contractor and our independent

6350
03:14:06,100 --> 03:14:08,100
cost estimator, initial

6351
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:09,100
constructability review showed

6352
03:14:09,100 --> 03:14:11,100
a longer duration of 59 to 70

6353
03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:13,100
months versus the designer's

6354
03:14:13,100 --> 03:14:15,100
40.

6355
03:14:15,100 --> 03:14:17,100
The two construction estimates

6356
03:14:17,100 --> 03:14:18,100
were 527 to 590

6357
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:20,100
for construction portion

6358
03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:22,100
of it.

6359
03:14:22,100 --> 03:14:23,100
These were reconciled

6360
03:14:23,100 --> 03:14:25,401
between the two at 577.

6361
03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:28,100
With that, the team updated the

6362
03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:29,100
other project costs besides

6363
03:14:29,100 --> 03:14:31,100
construction, leading

6364
03:14:31,100 --> 03:14:32,100
to a total project cost

6365
03:14:32,100 --> 03:14:34,401
for package one of 889.

6366
03:14:41,100 --> 03:14:42,100
So you heard me talk

6367
03:14:42,100 --> 03:14:43,100
about a lot of things we tried

6368
03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:44,100
to do to lower cost,

6369
03:14:44,100 --> 03:14:46,100
so now I'm going to talk

6370
03:14:46,100 --> 03:14:47,100
about the results

6371
03:14:47,100 --> 03:14:48,100
of that effort.

6372
03:14:48,100 --> 03:14:49,100
First is package two,

6373
03:14:49,100 --> 03:14:51,100
which is that side platform.

6374
03:14:51,100 --> 03:14:53,100
That makes a narrower overall

6375
03:14:53,100 --> 03:14:54,100
footprint, less work, less

6376
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:56,100
time, lower cost.

6377
03:14:59,100 --> 03:15:01,100
So with this alternative,

6378
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:03,100
it avoids the relocation of

6379
03:15:03,100 --> 03:15:04,100
Easton Creek.

6380
03:15:04,100 --> 03:15:05,100
It avoids the relocation

6381
03:15:05,100 --> 03:15:06,100
of some of the electrified

6382
03:15:06,100 --> 03:15:08,100
infrastructure.

6383
03:15:08,100 --> 03:15:10,100
It enables flipping the

6384
03:15:10,100 --> 03:15:11,100
alignment and moving this

6385
03:15:11,100 --> 03:15:13,100
station over towards Carolin

6386
03:15:13,100 --> 03:15:15,100
and using the existing track as

6387
03:15:15,100 --> 03:15:17,100
a shoe fly.

6388
03:15:17,100 --> 03:15:20,100
It allows using just a single

6389
03:15:20,100 --> 03:15:21,100
track shoe fly.

6390
03:15:21,100 --> 03:15:22,100
It allows for the contractor

6391
03:15:22,100 --> 03:15:23,100
to be on his side

6392
03:15:23,100 --> 03:15:24,100
of the fence, just go

6393
03:15:24,100 --> 03:15:25,100
to work.

6394
03:15:25,100 --> 03:15:26,100
It also allows the parking

6395
03:15:26,100 --> 03:15:28,100
to move over

6396
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:30,100
to the west side towards

6397
03:15:30,100 --> 03:15:32,100
California Drive, closer

6398
03:15:32,100 --> 03:15:34,100
to downtown.

6399
03:15:34,100 --> 03:15:35,100
It reduces environmental

6400
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:37,100
impacts, it reduces utility

6401
03:15:37,100 --> 03:15:39,100
relocations,

6402
03:15:39,100 --> 03:15:42,100
and has a smaller footprint.

6403
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:43,100
Now it does have some

6404
03:15:43,100 --> 03:15:44,100
challenges.

6405
03:15:44,100 --> 03:15:45,100
One, it's a side platform that

6406
03:15:45,100 --> 03:15:47,401
impacts the rider experience.

6407
03:15:48,100 --> 03:15:49,100
It will require redesign.

6408
03:15:49,100 --> 03:15:52,601
It will require cost and money

6409
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:54,100
for that redesign and,

6410
03:15:54,100 --> 03:15:55,100
of course, public outreach,

6411
03:15:55,100 --> 03:15:57,401
which we always do.

6412
03:15:58,100 --> 03:16:00,100
The bottom line results.

6413
03:16:00,100 --> 03:16:02,100
It saved a year in time,

6414
03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:04,100
which saved $147 million

6415
03:16:04,100 --> 03:16:07,100
in cost compared to Package

6416
03:16:08,100 --> 03:16:09,100
1, bringing the total project

6417
03:16:09,100 --> 03:16:11,100
to $679 million.

6418
03:16:18,100 --> 03:16:19,100
So the next package we did was

6419
03:16:19,100 --> 03:16:20,100
take a look

6420
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:22,100
at deferring the station.

6421
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:23,100
This is the same as Package

6422
03:16:23,100 --> 03:16:25,401
2, but deferring building the

6423
03:16:26,100 --> 03:16:28,100
station itself.

6424
03:16:28,100 --> 03:16:29,100
This, of course,

6425
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:32,100
further reduced cost and time.

6426
03:16:32,100 --> 03:16:33,100
However, in terms

6427
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:34,100
of a challenge, the project

6428
03:16:34,100 --> 03:16:36,100
already is environmentally

6429
03:16:36,100 --> 03:16:38,100
cleared, and we will need to

6430
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:40,401
update that environmental work.

6431
03:16:41,100 --> 03:16:43,100
This is under review from legal

6432
03:16:43,100 --> 03:16:45,100
and environmental teams, but

6433
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:47,100
the early indications are

6434
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:49,100
positive that this item can be

6435
03:16:49,100 --> 03:16:50,100
addressed without the

6436
03:16:50,100 --> 03:16:51,100
additional time shown

6437
03:16:51,100 --> 03:16:52,100
on the slide.

6438
03:16:52,100 --> 03:16:53,100
We still have a little bit

6439
03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:54,100
of homework to do there.

6440
03:16:54,100 --> 03:16:55,100
We haven't got the final read

6441
03:16:55,100 --> 03:16:57,100
from our attorneys.

6442
03:16:58,100 --> 03:16:59,100
At the end of the day,

6443
03:16:59,100 --> 03:17:00,100
the results

6444
03:17:00,100 --> 03:17:01,100
of this also reduced duration

6445
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:03,100
by the year,

6446
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:05,100
saved an additional $34 million

6447
03:17:05,100 --> 03:17:08,100
from Package 2 for a cost of

6448
03:17:08,100 --> 03:17:10,100
$638 million.

6449
03:17:13,100 --> 03:17:16,100
The team went one step farther.

6450
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:18,100
What if we do no station?

6451
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:21,100
What if we just instead

6452
03:17:21,100 --> 03:17:23,100
of defer the station,

6453
03:17:23,100 --> 03:17:24,100
let's just not build it?

6454
03:17:24,100 --> 03:17:25,100
Let's not build the

6455
03:17:25,100 --> 03:17:26,100
infrastructure necessary

6456
03:17:26,100 --> 03:17:27,100
to support that.

6457
03:17:27,100 --> 03:17:29,100
Just go up at 2%, cross over

6458
03:17:29,100 --> 03:17:30,100
Broadway, come back down

6459
03:17:30,100 --> 03:17:32,100
at 2%,

6460
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:33,100
make it as narrow as you can,

6461
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:35,100
get up as fast as you can, get

6462
03:17:35,100 --> 03:17:36,100
across the road, come back

6463
03:17:36,100 --> 03:17:38,100
down,

6464
03:17:38,100 --> 03:17:40,100
build it as fast as you can.

6465
03:17:40,100 --> 03:17:41,100
Of course, the key benefits

6466
03:17:41,100 --> 03:17:43,100
to that is improved Caltrain

6467
03:17:43,100 --> 03:17:45,100
travel times.

6468
03:17:45,100 --> 03:17:46,100
Again, it reduces scope,

6469
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:47,100
reduces duration,

6470
03:17:47,100 --> 03:17:49,100
and reduces cost.

6471
03:17:51,100 --> 03:17:52,100
It has the same challenges as

6472
03:17:52,100 --> 03:17:54,100
Package 3 with doing the

6473
03:17:54,100 --> 03:17:55,100
environmental review that we

6474
03:17:55,100 --> 03:17:56,100
still need to do the rest

6475
03:17:56,100 --> 03:17:58,100
of that homework on.

6476
03:17:58,100 --> 03:18:01,100
It does save that year

6477
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:02,100
of construction, and it saves

6478
03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:03,100
$50 million from the Package 2

6479
03:18:03,100 --> 03:18:04,100
version for a total cost of

6480
03:18:04,100 --> 03:18:06,100
$615 million.

6481
03:18:09,100 --> 03:18:11,100
This is a summary of the VE and

6482
03:18:11,100 --> 03:18:13,100
the construction cost savings.

6483
03:18:13,100 --> 03:18:16,100
We started out at $577 million.

6484
03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:19,100
We did a lot of work and got

6485
03:18:19,100 --> 03:18:21,100
down to $430 million,

6486
03:18:21,100 --> 03:18:23,100
which is Package 2.

6487
03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:24,100
Then we got down to Package

6488
03:18:24,100 --> 03:18:26,100
3, which is $396 million,

6489
03:18:27,100 --> 03:18:29,401
and then to $380 million.

6490
03:18:30,100 --> 03:18:31,100
These prices, of course,

6491
03:18:31,100 --> 03:18:32,100
are again based

6492
03:18:32,100 --> 03:18:34,100
on having the necessary funding

6493
03:18:34,100 --> 03:18:35,100
to begin work

6494
03:18:35,100 --> 03:18:37,401
in a timely manner.

6495
03:18:38,100 --> 03:18:39,100
So in summary,

6496
03:18:39,100 --> 03:18:41,100
the team created options.

6497
03:18:41,100 --> 03:18:42,100
How do we solve this problem?

6498
03:18:42,100 --> 03:18:43,100
These prices were not what we

6499
03:18:43,100 --> 03:18:45,100
expected.

6500
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:47,100
So we found ways to reduce the

6501
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,100
duration by reducing scope.

6502
03:18:49,100 --> 03:18:50,100
We have more work

6503
03:18:50,100 --> 03:18:52,100
to do there.

6504
03:18:52,100 --> 03:18:53,100
We reduced the cost

6505
03:18:53,100 --> 03:18:54,100
in construction.

6506
03:18:54,100 --> 03:18:55,100
Package 2 saved about 25%,

6507
03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:57,100
$147 million.

6508
03:18:57,100 --> 03:18:59,100
Package 3 saved about 31%,

6509
03:18:59,100 --> 03:19:01,100
and Package 4 saved

6510
03:19:05,100 --> 03:19:06,100
about 34%.

6511
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:08,100
We did a line-by-line review

6512
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:09,100
of all of the cost,

6513
03:19:09,100 --> 03:19:10,100
and we welcome the City and

6514
03:19:10,100 --> 03:19:12,100
TA's help with that, to walk

6515
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:14,100
through all

6516
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:15,100
of the costs line-by-line

6517
03:19:15,100 --> 03:19:16,100
to make sure we're driving

6518
03:19:16,100 --> 03:19:17,100
value

6519
03:19:17,100 --> 03:19:19,401
for the public's money.

6520
03:19:20,100 --> 03:19:21,100
We also did a line-by-line

6521
03:19:21,100 --> 03:19:22,100
review

6522
03:19:22,100 --> 03:19:23,100
of all the contingencies.

6523
03:19:23,100 --> 03:19:24,100
For every work activity,

6524
03:19:24,100 --> 03:19:25,100
what's the appropriate level

6525
03:19:25,100 --> 03:19:26,100
of contingency

6526
03:19:26,100 --> 03:19:27,100
for that risk?

6527
03:19:27,100 --> 03:19:29,100
And welcome the City's and the

6528
03:19:29,100 --> 03:19:32,601
TA's review of that as well.

6529
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:35,100
How do we make sure that we've

6530
03:19:35,100 --> 03:19:37,100
got the right contingencies

6531
03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:38,100
for the construction risks,

6532
03:19:38,100 --> 03:19:39,100
project risk, and other risk

6533
03:19:39,100 --> 03:19:41,100
of the project?

6534
03:19:41,100 --> 03:19:43,100
With that, we generated the

6535
03:19:43,100 --> 03:19:44,100
go-for pricing.

6536
03:19:44,100 --> 03:19:45,100
How much money do we need going

6537
03:19:45,100 --> 03:19:46,100
forward, plus what we spent

6538
03:19:46,100 --> 03:19:48,100
to date,

6539
03:19:48,100 --> 03:19:50,100
to get the total project cost?

6540
03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:51,100
So you're going

6541
03:19:51,100 --> 03:19:52,100
to see that total project cost

6542
03:19:52,100 --> 03:19:53,100
in the next slide,

6543
03:19:53,100 --> 03:19:54,100
and there are a lot of numbers

6544
03:19:54,100 --> 03:19:56,100
on this page.

6545
03:19:57,100 --> 03:20:01,100
So the top line is that CMGC's

6546
03:20:01,100 --> 03:20:03,100
rough order of magnitude

6547
03:20:03,100 --> 03:20:05,100
construction cost.

6548
03:20:05,100 --> 03:20:07,100
I want to be mindful here.

6549
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:09,401
Package 2, 3, and 4 are based

6550
03:20:10,100 --> 03:20:12,100
on conceptual designs.

6551
03:20:12,100 --> 03:20:14,100
We have a very talented

6552
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:16,100
contract team, a very talented

6553
03:20:16,100 --> 03:20:17,100
designer,

6554
03:20:17,100 --> 03:20:18,100
and they developed kind of

6555
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
conceptual plans that were

6556
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:20,100
priced.

6557
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:23,100
Package 1 was a 65% plan set.

6558
03:20:24,100 --> 03:20:26,100
Package 2, 3, and 4 were based

6559
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:28,100
on conceptuals,

6560
03:20:28,100 --> 03:20:29,100
so the rough order

6561
03:20:29,100 --> 03:20:30,100
of magnitude.

6562
03:20:30,100 --> 03:20:31,100
So there's more work

6563
03:20:31,100 --> 03:20:32,100
to do here.

6564
03:20:32,100 --> 03:20:33,100
And the costs vary from $577

6565
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:35,401
to $380, and these vary

6566
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:38,100
by the scope, the level

6567
03:20:38,100 --> 03:20:40,100
of improvements we do,

6568
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:41,100
and the duration

6569
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:43,100
of the work.

6570
03:20:43,100 --> 03:20:44,100
How fast can the work be done,

6571
03:20:44,100 --> 03:20:46,100
and what's the smallest

6572
03:20:46,100 --> 03:20:47,100
footprint can be done

6573
03:20:47,100 --> 03:20:49,100
to get the project done?

6574
03:20:49,100 --> 03:20:51,100
The next group of lines are

6575
03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:52,100
other project costs.

6576
03:20:52,100 --> 03:20:54,100
The design side to get

6577
03:20:54,100 --> 03:20:56,100
to 100% design, Caltrain's cost

6578
03:20:56,100 --> 03:20:58,100
for management of the work,

6579
03:20:58,100 --> 03:20:59,100
the construction management

6580
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:01,100
support, the right-of-way,

6581
03:21:01,100 --> 03:21:03,100
and those vary

6582
03:21:03,100 --> 03:21:04,100
by duration and scope from

6583
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:05,100
about $111 to $92 million.

6584
03:21:05,100 --> 03:21:08,100
The next lines are for

6585
03:21:09,100 --> 03:21:10,100
contingencies and project

6586
03:21:10,100 --> 03:21:12,100
risks.

6587
03:21:12,100 --> 03:21:14,100
The CMGC included in their

6588
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:17,100
pricing to us risk money.

6589
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:19,100
They included a range of $57

6590
03:21:19,100 --> 03:21:21,100
to $35 million

6591
03:21:21,100 --> 03:21:23,100
for the geotechnical risk.

6592
03:21:23,100 --> 03:21:25,100
You heard me talk

6593
03:21:25,100 --> 03:21:26,100
about the excavation, the

6594
03:21:26,100 --> 03:21:28,100
shoring, the backfill.

6595
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:30,100
If we do more geotechnical,

6596
03:21:30,100 --> 03:21:31,100
we might be able

6597
03:21:31,100 --> 03:21:32,100
to avoid all the cost,

6598
03:21:32,100 --> 03:21:33,100
but we didn't know yet, so they

6599
03:21:33,100 --> 03:21:34,100
included that money as a risk

6600
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:36,100
element.

6601
03:21:36,100 --> 03:21:38,100
We also included monies

6602
03:21:38,100 --> 03:21:39,100
for escalation.

6603
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:41,401
We only included 3.5% because

6604
03:21:42,100 --> 03:21:43,100
this project will have several

6605
03:21:43,100 --> 03:21:45,100
years of a lifespan,

6606
03:21:45,100 --> 03:21:46,100
and escalation tends

6607
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:48,100
to go up and down over time.

6608
03:21:48,100 --> 03:21:49,100
So with that, we developed the

6609
03:21:49,100 --> 03:21:51,100
go-forward pricing and expanded

6610
03:21:51,100 --> 03:21:53,100
to date, and the bottom line

6611
03:21:53,100 --> 03:21:54,100
there is the total project

6612
03:21:54,100 --> 03:21:55,100
cost.

6613
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:57,100
We started at $889 million.

6614
03:21:57,100 --> 03:22:00,100
We got down to $615 million.

6615
03:22:04,100 --> 03:22:05,100
Next, I want

6616
03:22:05,100 --> 03:22:06,100
to talk a little bit

6617
03:22:06,100 --> 03:22:08,100
about escalation.

6618
03:22:09,100 --> 03:22:11,100
In the next several months,

6619
03:22:11,100 --> 03:22:14,100
a decision will be necessary.

6620
03:22:14,100 --> 03:22:16,100
The current funding we have

6621
03:22:16,100 --> 03:22:18,100
will be exhausted.

6622
03:22:18,100 --> 03:22:20,100
Time is a key cost driver

6623
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:22,100
on large projects.

6624
03:22:23,100 --> 03:22:25,100
We selected the CMGC

6625
03:22:25,100 --> 03:22:26,100
construction method delivery

6626
03:22:26,100 --> 03:22:28,100
method.

6627
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:29,100
This early contract involvement

6628
03:22:29,100 --> 03:22:31,100
provides commercial pricing

6629
03:22:32,100 --> 03:22:34,100
before the drawings are done.

6630
03:22:34,100 --> 03:22:36,100
It also provides the

6631
03:22:36,100 --> 03:22:37,100
opportunity

6632
03:22:37,100 --> 03:22:39,100
to do that enabling work

6633
03:22:39,100 --> 03:22:41,100
before the design is complete.

6634
03:22:41,100 --> 03:22:43,401
With this known opportunity,

6635
03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:45,100
the costs shown are based

6636
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:47,401
on using that tool.

6637
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:52,100
It shows funding the redesign

6638
03:22:52,100 --> 03:22:54,100
of the work to get

6639
03:22:54,100 --> 03:22:56,100
to 65% drawings.

6640
03:22:57,100 --> 03:22:59,100
It assumes funding production

6641
03:22:59,100 --> 03:23:01,100
of 100% drawings

6642
03:23:01,100 --> 03:23:03,100
for that enabling work, the

6643
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:05,100
utilities, the track work,

6644
03:23:05,100 --> 03:23:06,100
get those drawings to 100% so

6645
03:23:06,100 --> 03:23:08,100
we can get them priced and get

6646
03:23:08,100 --> 03:23:10,100
into construction.

6647
03:23:10,100 --> 03:23:11,100
It shows funding the enabling

6648
03:23:11,100 --> 03:23:13,100
right-of-way work

6649
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:14,100
to remove that from the

6650
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:15,100
critical path so those

6651
03:23:15,100 --> 03:23:17,100
properties are cleared because

6652
03:23:17,100 --> 03:23:18,100
that's where the contractor is

6653
03:23:18,100 --> 03:23:20,100
going to go to work.

6654
03:23:20,100 --> 03:23:22,100
It also shows seeking

6655
03:23:22,100 --> 03:23:23,100
authorization to proceed

6656
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:25,100
with construction coming back

6657
03:23:25,100 --> 03:23:27,100
in the spring of next year,

6658
03:23:27,100 --> 03:23:29,100
asking for money to begin

6659
03:23:29,100 --> 03:23:31,401
construction so you can

6660
03:23:32,100 --> 03:23:33,100
mobilize and begin construction

6661
03:23:33,100 --> 03:23:35,100
in the fall of 26.

6662
03:23:35,100 --> 03:23:37,100
It also would include and ask

6663
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:39,100
next spring

6664
03:23:39,100 --> 03:23:41,401
to complete the 100% drawings.

6665
03:23:43,100 --> 03:23:44,100
This slide is to show even

6666
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:46,100
with moderate escalation

6667
03:23:46,100 --> 03:23:48,100
at 3.5%, the bottom line there

6668
03:23:48,100 --> 03:23:51,100
is the cheapest option at $615

6669
03:23:51,100 --> 03:23:53,100
million.

6670
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:54,100
One year of delay is $22

6671
03:23:54,100 --> 03:23:56,100
million.

6672
03:23:56,100 --> 03:23:58,100
That's why the team said let's

6673
03:23:58,100 --> 03:23:59,100
assume for these pricing that

6674
03:23:59,100 --> 03:24:01,100
we're going to find a way

6675
03:24:01,100 --> 03:24:03,100
to get the ability to go to

6676
03:24:03,100 --> 03:24:04,100
work and find a funding

6677
03:24:04,100 --> 03:24:06,100
strategy that would support

6678
03:24:06,100 --> 03:24:07,100
that given this is number one

6679
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:09,100
in the state

6680
03:24:09,100 --> 03:24:11,401
on the priority list.

6681
03:24:19,100 --> 03:24:21,100
In terms

6682
03:24:21,100 --> 03:24:22,100
of funding and expenditure,

6683
03:24:22,100 --> 03:24:23,100
the project has received

6684
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:25,100
about $28.9 million

6685
03:24:26,100 --> 03:24:28,100
from the and the city

6686
03:24:28,100 --> 03:24:29,100
since this project began in

6687
03:24:29,100 --> 03:24:31,100
2017.

6688
03:24:32,100 --> 03:24:33,100
The majority of these funds

6689
03:24:33,100 --> 03:24:34,100
have been expended to get

6690
03:24:34,100 --> 03:24:36,100
to this point.

6691
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:37,100
At the end of the calendar

6692
03:24:37,100 --> 03:24:38,100
year, there was about $2.4

6693
03:24:38,100 --> 03:24:40,100
million left.

6694
03:24:42,100 --> 03:24:43,100
So we're going to be running

6695
03:24:43,100 --> 03:24:45,100
out of capacity to continue

6696
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:46,100
work and a decision is needed

6697
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:48,100
in the coming months in order

6698
03:24:48,100 --> 03:24:51,100
to continue on this project.

6699
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:58,601
So in terms of next steps,

6700
03:24:59,100 --> 03:25:01,100
tomorrow and Thursday, we will

6701
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:03,100
go to the SMCTA Citizens

6702
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:04,100
Advisory Committee and their

6703
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:05,100
board, Caltrain staff, will

6704
03:25:05,100 --> 03:25:07,100
provide a project update

6705
03:25:07,100 --> 03:25:09,000
similar to what we're doing

6706
03:25:09,000 --> 03:25:12,100
here today and the TA staff

6707
03:25:12,100 --> 03:25:13,100
will seek feedback from their

6708
03:25:13,100 --> 03:25:15,100
CAC and their board.

6709
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:17,100
If the region elects to

6710
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:19,100
continue moving this project

6711
03:25:19,100 --> 03:25:20,100
forward, the team's

6712
03:25:20,100 --> 03:25:22,100
recommendation would be

6713
03:25:22,100 --> 03:25:24,100
to drive schedule

6714
03:25:24,100 --> 03:25:26,100
to reduce cost.

6715
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:27,100
We've got a final design team,

6716
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:29,100
Mark Thomas, that's ready

6717
03:25:29,100 --> 03:25:30,100
to go to work, knows the

6718
03:25:30,100 --> 03:25:33,100
project well and is poised to

6719
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:35,100
advance that work and reuse a

6720
03:25:35,100 --> 03:25:36,100
lot of the things that they've

6721
03:25:36,100 --> 03:25:37,100
already done.

6722
03:25:37,100 --> 03:25:38,100
They've already designed the

6723
03:25:38,100 --> 03:25:39,100
intersection at Broadway.

6724
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:40,100
There's a lot of work there

6725
03:25:40,100 --> 03:25:42,100
that can be reused.

6726
03:25:42,100 --> 03:25:44,100
We've got a seasoned CMGC

6727
03:25:44,100 --> 03:25:45,100
contractor, Flatiron Herzog,

6728
03:25:45,100 --> 03:25:47,100
ready to go

6729
03:25:47,100 --> 03:25:48,100
to work.

6730
03:25:48,100 --> 03:25:49,100
I'm meeting with their vice

6731
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:51,100
presidents tomorrow

6732
03:25:51,100 --> 03:25:52,100
before the CAC meeting

6733
03:25:52,100 --> 03:25:54,100
in my office to talk

6734
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:56,100
about work on this project.

6735
03:25:56,100 --> 03:25:58,100
Put forward a request

6736
03:25:58,100 --> 03:26:00,100
for funding to move the design

6737
03:26:00,100 --> 03:26:02,100
to 65% and 100% design

6738
03:26:03,100 --> 03:26:05,401
for that enabling work.

6739
03:26:06,100 --> 03:26:08,100
Find a way to do the enabling

6740
03:26:08,100 --> 03:26:09,100
right-of-way work, update the

6741
03:26:09,100 --> 03:26:11,401
environmental and come forward

6742
03:26:12,100 --> 03:26:13,100
with a funding request

6743
03:26:13,100 --> 03:26:15,100
in the spring of 26

6744
03:26:15,100 --> 03:26:17,100
to start support construction

6745
03:26:17,100 --> 03:26:19,100
of that enabling work

6746
03:26:19,100 --> 03:26:21,100
in the fall of 26 and fund the

6747
03:26:21,100 --> 03:26:23,100
100% design.

6748
03:26:26,100 --> 03:26:27,100
Of course, Caltrain will

6749
03:26:27,100 --> 03:26:29,100
continue to evaluate all

6750
03:26:29,100 --> 03:26:30,100
supplemental safety measures as

6751
03:26:30,100 --> 03:26:31,100
part

6752
03:26:31,100 --> 03:26:32,100
of our rail crossing program

6753
03:26:32,100 --> 03:26:33,100
like we do up and

6754
03:26:33,100 --> 03:26:35,100
down the alignment.

6755
03:26:41,100 --> 03:26:42,100
So what amount

6756
03:26:42,100 --> 03:26:44,100
of funds are necessary

6757
03:26:44,100 --> 03:26:46,100
to do this next step?

6758
03:26:46,100 --> 03:26:48,100
I want to be very clear.

6759
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:50,100
This is just essentially a

6760
03:26:50,100 --> 03:26:52,100
placeholder.

6761
03:26:52,100 --> 03:26:54,100
We asked the contractor, the

6762
03:26:54,100 --> 03:26:55,100
designer,

6763
03:26:55,100 --> 03:26:57,100
about how much it would be

6764
03:26:57,100 --> 03:26:58,100
to advance

6765
03:26:58,100 --> 03:26:59,100
to this next level.

6766
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:00,100
Of course, they didn't know

6767
03:27:00,100 --> 03:27:01,100
which package would be

6768
03:27:01,100 --> 03:27:02,100
selected,

6769
03:27:02,100 --> 03:27:04,100
so there's still work

6770
03:27:04,100 --> 03:27:06,100
to be done based

6771
03:27:06,100 --> 03:27:07,100
on what package is selected,

6772
03:27:07,100 --> 03:27:08,100
asking for a proposal, and then

6773
03:27:08,100 --> 03:27:09,100
doing a line-by-line review

6774
03:27:09,100 --> 03:27:12,100
with Caltrain, the city staff,

6775
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:13,100
and the TA staff,

6776
03:27:13,100 --> 03:27:14,100
making sure we drive value

6777
03:27:14,100 --> 03:27:15,100
to money to drive that cost

6778
03:27:15,100 --> 03:27:17,100
down for both the contractor's

6779
03:27:17,100 --> 03:27:19,100
proposal

6780
03:27:20,100 --> 03:27:22,100
for the designer's proposal and

6781
03:27:22,100 --> 03:27:24,100
Caltrain's cost.

6782
03:27:24,100 --> 03:27:26,100
This money would support

6783
03:27:26,100 --> 03:27:28,401
getting the updated cost

6784
03:27:29,100 --> 03:27:31,100
from the CMGC for the 65% set

6785
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:33,401
and the enabling work.

6786
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:35,100
Because we'd be looking

6787
03:27:35,100 --> 03:27:36,100
to issue a contract amendment

6788
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:37,100
to go to work,

6789
03:27:37,100 --> 03:27:38,100
we'd be negotiating a price

6790
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:40,100
for that work.

6791
03:27:40,100 --> 03:27:42,100
The designer's work I've talked

6792
03:27:42,100 --> 03:27:43,100
about and then enabling

6793
03:27:43,100 --> 03:27:44,100
right-of-way work.

6794
03:27:44,100 --> 03:27:46,100
That's authorizing relocation

6795
03:27:46,100 --> 03:27:48,100
benefit eligibility

6796
03:27:48,100 --> 03:27:50,100
for the lease tenants on the

6797
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:51,100
San Mateo County Transit

6798
03:27:51,100 --> 03:27:52,100
Authority

6799
03:27:52,100 --> 03:27:54,100
for two parcels and,

6800
03:27:54,100 --> 03:27:55,100
of course, the other elements

6801
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:57,100
that are shown.

6802
03:27:58,100 --> 03:27:59,100
And then we'd come back

6803
03:27:59,100 --> 03:28:01,100
for a future funding request

6804
03:28:01,100 --> 03:28:03,100
for 100% design and the

6805
03:28:03,100 --> 03:28:05,100
long-lead material procurement.

6806
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:13,100
With that being said, package

6807
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:15,401
1, 2, and 3 are estimated at

6808
03:28:16,100 --> 03:28:18,100
$679 to $615 million.

6809
03:28:21,100 --> 03:28:23,401
With the current $28.9 million,

6810
03:28:24,100 --> 03:28:27,100
that leaves a gap of $650 to

6811
03:28:27,100 --> 03:28:29,100
$586 million.

6812
03:28:31,100 --> 03:28:34,100
We did work with SMCTA staff

6813
03:28:34,100 --> 03:28:36,100
and your staff to identify

6814
03:28:36,100 --> 03:28:38,100
known sources and amounts

6815
03:28:38,100 --> 03:28:40,100
of funding.

6816
03:28:40,100 --> 03:28:42,100
All in, an additional $438

6817
03:28:42,100 --> 03:28:44,401
million might be available.

6818
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:49,100
This still leaves a significant

6819
03:28:49,100 --> 03:28:51,401
gap of $211 to $147 million.

6820
03:28:55,100 --> 03:28:57,100
We know that this location is

6821
03:28:57,100 --> 03:28:58,100
the highest-ranked crossing

6822
03:28:58,100 --> 03:28:59,100
in California CPUC's list.

6823
03:28:59,100 --> 03:29:01,100
We know that.

6824
03:29:01,100 --> 03:29:02,100
We want to drive this project

6825
03:29:02,100 --> 03:29:04,100
forward.

6826
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:05,100
Caltrain is firmly committed

6827
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:06,100
in order

6828
03:29:06,100 --> 03:29:09,100
to get this project done.

6829
03:29:09,100 --> 03:29:10,100
But with all the VEA options

6830
03:29:10,100 --> 03:29:12,100
implemented,

6831
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:14,100
it's still a heavy lift

6832
03:29:14,100 --> 03:29:15,100
to fund.

6833
03:29:15,100 --> 03:29:17,100
And we know that the state and

6834
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:19,100
federal landscape remains

6835
03:29:19,100 --> 03:29:21,100
uncertain.

6836
03:29:22,100 --> 03:29:23,100
And we know that construction

6837
03:29:23,100 --> 03:29:25,100
market remains volatile.

6838
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:30,100
We would like

6839
03:29:30,100 --> 03:29:31,100
to thank the mayor, the vice

6840
03:29:31,100 --> 03:29:34,100
mayor, and the council members

6841
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:35,100
for the opportunity

6842
03:29:35,100 --> 03:29:37,100
to provide this update.

6843
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:38,100
The project evaluated that

6844
03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:40,100
contract delivery model.

6845
03:29:40,100 --> 03:29:42,100
We selected CMGC to get that

6846
03:29:42,100 --> 03:29:44,100
commercial pricing now

6847
03:29:44,100 --> 03:29:45,100
before we were done

6848
03:29:45,100 --> 03:29:47,100
with the drawings.

6849
03:29:47,100 --> 03:29:48,100
We knew this was a unique

6850
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:50,100
project with lots of risk.

6851
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:51,100
It had seven structures, six

6852
03:29:51,100 --> 03:29:52,100
creeks, relocating creeks,

6853
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:54,100
new pedestrian

6854
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:57,100
under crossings,

6855
03:29:57,100 --> 03:29:58,100
an electrified operating

6856
03:29:58,100 --> 03:29:59,100
railroad, and a volatile

6857
03:29:59,100 --> 03:30:00,100
post-pandemic bid market.

6858
03:30:00,100 --> 03:30:01,100
We wanted

6859
03:30:01,100 --> 03:30:03,100
to get contractor pricing now.

6860
03:30:03,100 --> 03:30:05,100
We obtained that pricing

6861
03:30:05,100 --> 03:30:07,100
before we were done

6862
03:30:07,100 --> 03:30:08,100
with designing.

6863
03:30:08,100 --> 03:30:09,100
And similar to many public

6864
03:30:09,100 --> 03:30:11,100
infrastructure projects

6865
03:30:11,100 --> 03:30:14,100
across the United States, this

6866
03:30:14,100 --> 03:30:15,100
pricing was not what we

6867
03:30:15,100 --> 03:30:17,100
expected.

6868
03:30:18,100 --> 03:30:19,100
However, now we have more

6869
03:30:19,100 --> 03:30:21,100
information

6870
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:23,100
to support decision-making

6871
03:30:23,100 --> 03:30:24,100
on what to do next.

6872
03:30:24,100 --> 03:30:26,100
I'd like to turn it back to

6873
03:30:26,100 --> 03:30:28,401
Saiyed for that conversation.

6874
03:30:47,100 --> 03:30:49,100
Before I go

6875
03:30:50,100 --> 03:30:51,100
to the next steps, I would

6876
03:30:51,100 --> 03:30:53,100
like

6877
03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:55,100
to have the council follow up

6878
03:30:55,100 --> 03:30:56,100
with any questions for Rob or

6879
03:30:56,100 --> 03:30:58,100
Navi.

6880
03:30:59,100 --> 03:31:01,401
Council members, who's got

6881
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:05,100
questions for Robert or Navi

6882
03:31:05,100 --> 03:31:07,401
regarding what was presented?

6883
03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:10,100
May I do the mayor,

6884
03:31:10,100 --> 03:31:12,100
please?

6885
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:15,100
I might just say that

6886
03:31:15,100 --> 03:31:17,100
Councilman, or Mayor Stevenson

6887
03:31:17,100 --> 03:31:19,100
and I have had the opportunity,

6888
03:31:19,100 --> 03:31:21,100
this is now the third time

6889
03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:22,100
we've seen this,

6890
03:31:22,100 --> 03:31:24,100
and we have spent

6891
03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:25,100
over four hours asking hundreds

6892
03:31:25,100 --> 03:31:27,100
of questions.

6893
03:31:27,100 --> 03:31:29,100
So I would like to defer

6894
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:32,100
to my three colleagues to make

6895
03:31:32,100 --> 03:31:33,100
sure you have the opportunity

6896
03:31:33,100 --> 03:31:34,100
to answer, ask some

6897
03:31:34,100 --> 03:31:36,100
of the same questions,

6898
03:31:36,100 --> 03:31:38,100
and maybe hopefully even hit

6899
03:31:38,100 --> 03:31:39,100
on something that we've missed.

6900
03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:41,100
But I do want you to know,

6901
03:31:41,100 --> 03:31:43,100
on your behalf, we have been

6902
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:45,100
asking hours and hours

6903
03:31:45,100 --> 03:31:47,100
of questions.

6904
03:31:47,100 --> 03:31:49,401
We are obviously disappointed.

6905
03:31:50,100 --> 03:31:53,100
We are upset about this.

6906
03:31:54,100 --> 03:31:56,100
This is a shock to everyone.

6907
03:31:56,100 --> 03:31:57,100
Has ramifications and

6908
03:31:57,100 --> 03:32:00,100
implications, and this is the

6909
03:32:00,100 --> 03:32:02,100
first time that I've had the

6910
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:03,100
opportunity to see the slide

6911
03:32:03,100 --> 03:32:05,100
that shows the casting out

6912
03:32:05,100 --> 03:32:07,401
of costs up to 2031.

6913
03:32:09,100 --> 03:32:12,100
A billion dollars sat on that

6914
03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:14,100
chart.

6915
03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:19,601
I haven't seen that before, but

6916
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:23,601
you can see the conundrum that

6917
03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:28,100
we are in, in terms

6918
03:32:28,100 --> 03:32:30,100
of advancing this project.

6919
03:32:30,100 --> 03:32:32,100
So please, colleagues.

6920
03:32:35,100 --> 03:32:36,100
Any initial questions?

6921
03:32:36,100 --> 03:32:38,100
Yes, Vice Mayor.

6922
03:32:38,100 --> 03:32:39,100
I do, but I don't feel a need

6923
03:32:39,100 --> 03:32:41,100
to go first.

6924
03:32:41,100 --> 03:32:42,100
Okay.

6925
03:32:42,100 --> 03:32:44,100
Well, I mean, so one,

6926
03:32:44,100 --> 03:32:45,100
I guess I have a question

6927
03:32:45,100 --> 03:32:47,100
for the Mayor and

6928
03:32:47,100 --> 03:32:48,100
Councilwoman Colson.

6929
03:32:48,100 --> 03:32:49,100
So the questions that you've

6930
03:32:49,100 --> 03:32:51,100
asked, were they addressed

6931
03:32:51,100 --> 03:32:52,100
in this presentation?

6932
03:32:52,100 --> 03:32:53,100
In other words,

6933
03:32:53,100 --> 03:32:54,100
are the answers that you got

6934
03:32:54,100 --> 03:32:56,401
in this presentation, or?

6935
03:32:57,100 --> 03:32:58,100
Mr. Mayor, would you like to

6936
03:32:58,100 --> 03:33:00,100
address that?

6937
03:33:00,100 --> 03:33:02,100
I think there are still some

6938
03:33:02,100 --> 03:33:03,100
unknown questions,

6939
03:33:03,100 --> 03:33:05,401
and we gave guidance

6940
03:33:06,100 --> 03:33:07,100
around some of the current

6941
03:33:07,100 --> 03:33:09,100
estimates that you see,

6942
03:33:09,100 --> 03:33:11,100
in terms of, especially in the

6943
03:33:11,100 --> 03:33:12,100
near term, in terms

6944
03:33:12,100 --> 03:33:14,100
of the next wave of funding

6945
03:33:14,100 --> 03:33:16,100
to get to 65% with the redesign

6946
03:33:16,100 --> 03:33:18,100
and what options that impacts.

6947
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:20,100
Because I don't think the

6948
03:33:20,100 --> 03:33:23,100
scenario was with Caltrain, and

6949
03:33:23,100 --> 03:33:25,100
correct me if I'm wrong, that

6950
03:33:25,100 --> 03:33:27,100
they asked other than just a

6951
03:33:27,100 --> 03:33:29,100
high level, what is your sense

6952
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:30,100
of what this is going

6953
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:32,100
to cost?

6954
03:33:32,100 --> 03:33:33,100
So there's costs that are

6955
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:34,100
projected in that $28 million

6956
03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:36,100
that we had questions about,

6957
03:33:36,100 --> 03:33:38,100
and I don't know what the final

6958
03:33:38,100 --> 03:33:39,100
answer will be on that,

6959
03:33:39,100 --> 03:33:40,100
because there's more work

6960
03:33:40,100 --> 03:33:42,100
to be done.

6961
03:33:42,100 --> 03:33:45,100
In general, I think some

6962
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:46,100
of the questions about the

6963
03:33:46,100 --> 03:33:47,100
value engineering certainly

6964
03:33:47,100 --> 03:33:50,100
clarified a picture for us,

6965
03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:53,100
in terms of what options.

6966
03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:55,100
But there's also questions

6967
03:33:55,100 --> 03:33:57,100
about governance,

6968
03:33:57,100 --> 03:33:58,100
there's questions

6969
03:33:58,100 --> 03:33:59,100
about how we drive this,

6970
03:33:59,100 --> 03:34:00,100
how we work together

6971
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:01,100
to make this the exception

6972
03:34:01,100 --> 03:34:03,100
of the surprise,

6973
03:34:03,100 --> 03:34:05,100
rather than the rule,

6974
03:34:05,100 --> 03:34:07,100
going forward.

6975
03:34:08,100 --> 03:34:09,100
For other grade separations.

6976
03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:10,100
Yeah, and I think, just

6977
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:11,100
to frame it, it seems

6978
03:34:11,100 --> 03:34:13,100
to me that this evening,

6979
03:34:13,100 --> 03:34:14,100
the decisions that we need

6980
03:34:14,100 --> 03:34:16,100
to make are looking at, you

6981
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:18,100
know, options one through four.

6982
03:34:18,100 --> 03:34:20,100
I think the mayor and I have a

6983
03:34:20,100 --> 03:34:22,401
suggestion, along with staff,

6984
03:34:23,100 --> 03:34:24,100
of where we're going to have

6985
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:26,100
to go on this,

6986
03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:28,100
pretty obvious.

6987
03:34:28,100 --> 03:34:31,100
It's complex, because of the

6988
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:34,100
transit-oriented development

6989
03:34:34,100 --> 03:34:36,100
situation, whether that train

6990
03:34:36,100 --> 03:34:38,100
station is there or not.

6991
03:34:38,100 --> 03:34:39,100
We heard very loud and clear

6992
03:34:39,100 --> 03:34:41,100
from our scoping meetings

6993
03:34:41,100 --> 03:34:43,100
with the TOD

6994
03:34:43,100 --> 03:34:44,100
for a specific plan for

6995
03:34:44,100 --> 03:34:47,100
Broadway, that change is not,

6996
03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:49,100
people are not interested

6997
03:34:49,100 --> 03:34:50,100
in change,

6998
03:34:50,100 --> 03:34:51,100
they don't want more dense

6999
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:52,100
housing, they don't want all

7000
03:34:52,100 --> 03:34:54,100
that, and those two things

7001
03:34:54,100 --> 03:34:55,100
interrelate, right?

7002
03:34:55,100 --> 03:34:57,100
If we have a train station,

7003
03:34:57,100 --> 03:34:58,100
by law,

7004
03:34:58,100 --> 03:35:00,100
then we must zone very dense

7005
03:35:00,100 --> 03:35:02,100
around it, without parking.

7006
03:35:02,100 --> 03:35:04,100
So there's complexity

7007
03:35:04,100 --> 03:35:05,100
around that, and we sorted

7008
03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:06,100
through some

7009
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:07,100
of those questions.

7010
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:09,100
And then, I think,

7011
03:35:09,100 --> 03:35:11,100
so that sort

7012
03:35:11,100 --> 03:35:12,100
of is the first framing.

7013
03:35:12,100 --> 03:35:13,100
There was a lot of,

7014
03:35:13,100 --> 03:35:15,100
I guess what I would say is,

7015
03:35:15,100 --> 03:35:16,100
there was a lot

7016
03:35:16,100 --> 03:35:17,100
of conversation and sort

7017
03:35:17,100 --> 03:35:19,100
of rehashing around, how in the

7018
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:21,100
world did we actually get here?

7019
03:35:21,100 --> 03:35:22,100
So I think you can be pretty

7020
03:35:22,100 --> 03:35:24,100
confident that we have made it

7021
03:35:24,100 --> 03:35:26,100
very clear, the mistakes,

7022
03:35:26,100 --> 03:35:29,601
and we've stood by our staff,

7023
03:35:30,100 --> 03:35:31,100
who has been discussing for 10

7024
03:35:31,100 --> 03:35:33,100
years, if not arguing

7025
03:35:33,100 --> 03:35:35,100
vehemently, of why 10 years

7026
03:35:35,100 --> 03:35:37,100
ago, before electrification,

7027
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:39,100
et cetera, we needed

7028
03:35:39,100 --> 03:35:40,100
to have begun this project.

7029
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:42,100
And we were always at the top

7030
03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:43,100
of the list, and projects below

7031
03:35:43,100 --> 03:35:45,100
us got picked up and put on,

7032
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:47,100
you know, the Mateo, and every

7033
03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:48,100
one of these projects has gone

7034
03:35:48,100 --> 03:35:49,100
over and over and

7035
03:35:49,100 --> 03:35:51,100
over and running.

7036
03:35:51,100 --> 03:35:52,100
And then, there was extensive

7037
03:35:52,100 --> 03:35:54,100
debate, even around,

7038
03:35:54,100 --> 03:35:55,100
so that was number one, like,

7039
03:35:55,100 --> 03:35:56,100
what are we going to build?

7040
03:35:56,100 --> 03:35:57,100
Then number two, how come the

7041
03:35:57,100 --> 03:35:58,100
process is so screwed up, and

7042
03:35:58,100 --> 03:36:00,100
how do we make sure that going

7043
03:36:00,100 --> 03:36:01,100
forward it doesn't get this

7044
03:36:01,100 --> 03:36:03,100
out of control?

7045
03:36:05,100 --> 03:36:06,100
And then number three is really

7046
03:36:06,100 --> 03:36:07,100
the funding plan,

7047
03:36:07,100 --> 03:36:08,100
and how do we put a funding

7048
03:36:08,100 --> 03:36:10,100
plan together, even, you know,

7049
03:36:10,100 --> 03:36:11,100
if the TA gave us every dollar

7050
03:36:11,100 --> 03:36:14,100
that they had, we're still

7051
03:36:14,100 --> 03:36:17,100
$147 million short on the, you

7052
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:19,100
know, in an environment

7053
03:36:19,100 --> 03:36:21,100
of 25% tariffs, an environment

7054
03:36:21,100 --> 03:36:23,100
of the Fed pulling back tons

7055
03:36:23,100 --> 03:36:25,100
and tons of funding, it's just

7056
03:36:25,100 --> 03:36:27,401
all getting very complicated.

7057
03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:29,100
So to pick up on that,

7058
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:30,100
I'll just turn to a couple

7059
03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:32,100
of questions.

7060
03:36:32,100 --> 03:36:33,100
What is the funding plan?

7061
03:36:33,100 --> 03:36:34,100
So you have to find $100, we

7062
03:36:34,100 --> 03:36:36,100
have to find $150, $200

7063
03:36:36,100 --> 03:36:37,100
million, where does it come

7064
03:36:37,100 --> 03:36:39,100
from in your view?

7065
03:36:39,100 --> 03:36:42,100
So the discussion we had

7066
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:43,100
earlier this afternoon was

7067
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:44,100
establishing an ad hoc

7068
03:36:44,100 --> 03:36:46,100
committee

7069
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:47,100
with the finance folks

7070
03:36:47,100 --> 03:36:48,100
for both Caltrain, the TA,

7071
03:36:48,100 --> 03:36:49,100
and the city to meet

7072
03:36:49,100 --> 03:36:50,100
on a regular cadence

7073
03:36:50,100 --> 03:36:52,100
over the next year

7074
03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:53,100
to develop that funding plan.

7075
03:36:53,100 --> 03:36:55,100
You could imagine a future

7076
03:36:55,100 --> 03:36:56,100
where there's a decision made,

7077
03:36:56,100 --> 03:36:58,100
we'll pick a package,

7078
03:36:58,100 --> 03:36:59,100
we're going

7079
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:00,100
to advance the design

7080
03:37:00,100 --> 03:37:01,100
to get ready with the CMGC

7081
03:37:01,100 --> 03:37:02,100
to go to work.

7082
03:37:02,100 --> 03:37:03,100
Excuse me?

7083
03:37:03,100 --> 03:37:04,100
We won't be able to go to work

7084
03:37:04,100 --> 03:37:06,100
without that funding plan.

7085
03:37:06,100 --> 03:37:08,100
So we don't have that plan,

7086
03:37:08,100 --> 03:37:09,100
but we've talked

7087
03:37:09,100 --> 03:37:11,100
about a structured process

7088
03:37:11,100 --> 03:37:12,100
in order to try

7089
03:37:12,100 --> 03:37:13,100
to drive the development

7090
03:37:13,100 --> 03:37:14,100
of that plan.

7091
03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:15,100
As far as I know,

7092
03:37:15,100 --> 03:37:16,100
there's no additional sources

7093
03:37:16,100 --> 03:37:18,100
of capital for this kind of

7094
03:37:18,100 --> 03:37:19,100
project that wasn't available a

7095
03:37:19,100 --> 03:37:20,100
year ago, two years ago,

7096
03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:22,100
three years ago.

7097
03:37:22,100 --> 03:37:25,100
There's no, I mean, certainly

7098
03:37:25,100 --> 03:37:27,100
not the federal government

7099
03:37:27,100 --> 03:37:29,100
hasn't created a vast new

7100
03:37:29,100 --> 03:37:30,100
spending program, far

7101
03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:31,100
from it.

7102
03:37:31,100 --> 03:37:32,100
State is not in a better fiscal

7103
03:37:32,100 --> 03:37:33,100
position than it was.

7104
03:37:33,100 --> 03:37:34,100
So if we couldn't do it last

7105
03:37:34,100 --> 03:37:36,100
year with a $300 million

7106
03:37:36,100 --> 03:37:38,401
estimate where we needed 50

7107
03:37:39,100 --> 03:37:41,100
to 60, I don't understand where

7108
03:37:41,100 --> 03:37:42,100
you think 150 to 200 is coming

7109
03:37:42,100 --> 03:37:44,100
from.

7110
03:37:45,100 --> 03:37:47,100
The team doesn't have an answer

7111
03:37:47,100 --> 03:37:49,100
for where that funding- I don't

7112
03:37:49,100 --> 03:37:51,100
think you can get an answer.

7113
03:37:51,100 --> 03:37:55,100
I mean, I invest for a living.

7114
03:37:55,100 --> 03:37:57,100
I would fire you guys,

7115
03:37:57,100 --> 03:37:59,100
honestly.

7116
03:37:59,100 --> 03:38:02,100
This isn't, you weren't off

7117
03:38:02,100 --> 03:38:03,100
by a little bit, you were off

7118
03:38:03,100 --> 03:38:04,100
by a lot.

7119
03:38:04,100 --> 03:38:05,100
And now you want this

7120
03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:07,401
community, which I express

7121
03:38:08,100 --> 03:38:09,100
broadly, the city of

7122
03:38:09,100 --> 03:38:10,100
Burlingame and a lot

7123
03:38:10,100 --> 03:38:11,100
of other people,

7124
03:38:11,100 --> 03:38:13,401
to throw another $25 million

7125
03:38:15,100 --> 03:38:17,100
onto the fire.

7126
03:38:17,100 --> 03:38:18,100
I mean, I don't see what value

7127
03:38:18,100 --> 03:38:19,100
we've got for the $25 million

7128
03:38:19,100 --> 03:38:21,100
you've spent.

7129
03:38:22,100 --> 03:38:23,100
If this were a startup,

7130
03:38:23,100 --> 03:38:24,100
I wouldn't keep funding you.

7131
03:38:24,100 --> 03:38:26,100
If this were a good idea, I'd

7132
03:38:26,100 --> 03:38:28,100
go somewhere else.

7133
03:38:28,100 --> 03:38:29,100
I don't see you guys

7134
03:38:29,100 --> 03:38:31,100
delivering.

7135
03:38:31,100 --> 03:38:32,100
I mean, I'm sorry,

7136
03:38:32,100 --> 03:38:34,100
I'm not usually this blunt, but

7137
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:36,100
this upsets me.

7138
03:38:36,100 --> 03:38:39,100
I admire the mayor and

7139
03:38:40,100 --> 03:38:41,100
Councilwoman Colson

7140
03:38:41,100 --> 03:38:42,100
for keeping their cool.

7141
03:38:42,100 --> 03:38:43,100
Maybe they blew their stack in

7142
03:38:43,100 --> 03:38:44,100
private.

7143
03:38:44,100 --> 03:38:45,100
I think this is outrageous.

7144
03:38:45,100 --> 03:38:47,100
And to ask the city and the

7145
03:38:47,100 --> 03:38:48,100
community and the county and

7146
03:38:48,100 --> 03:38:49,100
the state

7147
03:38:49,100 --> 03:38:50,100
to keep backing your agency

7148
03:38:50,100 --> 03:38:52,100
with this record of missing

7149
03:38:52,100 --> 03:38:55,601
over and over again, I don't

7150
03:38:57,100 --> 03:38:58,100
see how you stand there and

7151
03:38:58,100 --> 03:39:00,401
say, just trust me.

7152
03:39:01,100 --> 03:39:02,100
Give me another 10, 15, 20

7153
03:39:02,100 --> 03:39:05,100
million, I'll figure it out.

7154
03:39:07,100 --> 03:39:08,100
Sorry, it wasn't really a

7155
03:39:08,100 --> 03:39:10,100
question, but you can go ahead

7156
03:39:10,100 --> 03:39:13,100
and answer it, please do.

7157
03:39:15,100 --> 03:39:18,601
I hear you loud and clear.

7158
03:39:20,100 --> 03:39:22,100
When I joined Caltrain, we were

7159
03:39:22,100 --> 03:39:25,100
doing work with low bid.

7160
03:39:26,100 --> 03:39:28,100
These are complex projects,

7161
03:39:28,100 --> 03:39:31,100
and I've built complex projects

7162
03:39:31,100 --> 03:39:32,100
at over a billion dollars.

7163
03:39:32,100 --> 03:39:34,100
And the way we do those is

7164
03:39:34,100 --> 03:39:36,100
bring a contractor in

7165
03:39:36,100 --> 03:39:38,100
to get contractor pricing

7166
03:39:38,100 --> 03:39:40,100
to drive decision making.

7167
03:39:40,100 --> 03:39:41,100
And that's not what was being

7168
03:39:41,100 --> 03:39:42,100
done.

7169
03:39:42,100 --> 03:39:44,100
So I said, let's change the way

7170
03:39:44,100 --> 03:39:46,100
we deliver work.

7171
03:39:47,100 --> 03:39:50,100
We brought on a CMGC out at

7172
03:39:50,100 --> 03:39:51,100
Mountain View.

7173
03:39:51,100 --> 03:39:53,100
We did it at Rangsdorf.

7174
03:39:53,100 --> 03:39:55,100
We did it at Broadway.

7175
03:39:55,100 --> 03:39:56,100
We're going to bring one

7176
03:39:56,100 --> 03:39:58,100
to our council in April for

7177
03:39:58,100 --> 03:40:00,100
Middle Avenue

7178
03:40:00,100 --> 03:40:01,100
to bring the contractor

7179
03:40:01,100 --> 03:40:02,100
in early

7180
03:40:02,100 --> 03:40:03,100
to get their pricing.

7181
03:40:03,100 --> 03:40:05,100
The pricing that we've been

7182
03:40:05,100 --> 03:40:06,100
getting from the design

7183
03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:07,100
professionals doesn't align

7184
03:40:07,100 --> 03:40:09,401
with the current realities

7185
03:40:10,100 --> 03:40:12,100
of this construction market.

7186
03:40:12,100 --> 03:40:13,100
So coming in and changing the

7187
03:40:13,100 --> 03:40:15,100
way we do business to get

7188
03:40:15,100 --> 03:40:17,100
better pricing earlier than

7189
03:40:17,100 --> 03:40:19,401
what was done before.

7190
03:40:20,100 --> 03:40:22,100
So I hear you,

7191
03:40:22,100 --> 03:40:23,100
and what are we doing

7192
03:40:23,100 --> 03:40:24,100
about it?

7193
03:40:24,100 --> 03:40:26,100
And that was changing the way

7194
03:40:26,100 --> 03:40:27,100
we get our pricing.

7195
03:40:27,100 --> 03:40:29,100
Now there are other projects

7196
03:40:29,100 --> 03:40:30,100
that are earlier

7197
03:40:30,100 --> 03:40:31,100
in their design process, in

7198
03:40:31,100 --> 03:40:33,100
Palo Alto.

7199
03:40:33,100 --> 03:40:35,100
We went out to the market, and

7200
03:40:35,100 --> 03:40:36,100
we got this specialized

7201
03:40:36,100 --> 03:40:39,100
expertise that is a contractor

7202
03:40:40,100 --> 03:40:42,100
style estimating from Kelly

7203
03:40:42,100 --> 03:40:44,100
McNutt, and there are other

7204
03:40:44,100 --> 03:40:46,100
firms that do that as well,

7205
03:40:46,100 --> 03:40:48,100
to provide that resource to

7206
03:40:48,100 --> 03:40:49,100
Caltrain for other projects.

7207
03:40:49,100 --> 03:40:52,100
Because you can't hire a CMGC

7208
03:40:52,100 --> 03:40:53,100
contractor on a project

7209
03:40:53,100 --> 03:40:55,100
in 15% design.

7210
03:40:55,100 --> 03:40:57,100
There's no construction money

7211
03:40:57,100 --> 03:40:58,100
yet.

7212
03:40:58,100 --> 03:40:59,100
They're in the business

7213
03:40:59,100 --> 03:41:00,100
of construction.

7214
03:41:00,100 --> 03:41:01,100
So we're bringing them on and

7215
03:41:01,100 --> 03:41:03,100
getting that commercial pricing

7216
03:41:03,100 --> 03:41:04,100
at 15%

7217
03:41:04,100 --> 03:41:05,100
from the contractor industry

7218
03:41:05,100 --> 03:41:08,100
on these earlier projects to

7219
03:41:08,100 --> 03:41:10,100
change the way we do business.

7220
03:41:10,100 --> 03:41:12,100
But on projects that were

7221
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,100
in flight, let's bring them in

7222
03:41:13,100 --> 03:41:15,100
to get commercial pricing,

7223
03:41:15,100 --> 03:41:16,100
because the pricing we were

7224
03:41:16,100 --> 03:41:17,100
getting from the design

7225
03:41:17,100 --> 03:41:18,100
communities didn't match the

7226
03:41:18,100 --> 03:41:20,100
realities we're getting

7227
03:41:20,100 --> 03:41:21,100
from the construction community

7228
03:41:21,100 --> 03:41:23,100
for pricing.

7229
03:41:24,100 --> 03:41:26,100
So it came in and changed the

7230
03:41:26,100 --> 03:41:27,100
way we do business.

7231
03:41:27,100 --> 03:41:29,100
So I hear you on that,

7232
03:41:29,100 --> 03:41:30,100
and what are we doing

7233
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:32,100
about it?

7234
03:41:33,100 --> 03:41:34,100
Well, if, and sorry, but the-

7235
03:41:34,100 --> 03:41:35,100
No, no, no, keep going,

7236
03:41:35,100 --> 03:41:37,100
but I just want to elaborate

7237
03:41:37,100 --> 03:41:38,100
on something you pointed out,

7238
03:41:38,100 --> 03:41:39,100
Michael, or Councilman

7239
03:41:39,100 --> 03:41:41,100
Brownrigg, Vice Mayor.

7240
03:41:41,100 --> 03:41:42,100
If you don't think you can find

7241
03:41:42,100 --> 03:41:43,100
the 200 million, and that's,

7242
03:41:43,100 --> 03:41:44,100
if you don't think you can,

7243
03:41:44,100 --> 03:41:47,100
if one doesn't think one can,

7244
03:41:47,100 --> 03:41:49,100
it's like asking you to buy,

7245
03:41:49,100 --> 03:41:50,100
to pay for an architect

7246
03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:52,100
to design the Taj Mahal, and

7247
03:41:52,100 --> 03:41:54,100
you know damn well you don't

7248
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:55,100
have the money to build the

7249
03:41:55,100 --> 03:41:56,100
Taj Mahal.

7250
03:41:56,100 --> 03:41:57,100
So why am I paying the

7251
03:41:57,100 --> 03:41:58,100
architect?

7252
03:41:58,100 --> 03:41:59,100
Who am I kidding?

7253
03:41:59,100 --> 03:42:00,100
That's the question

7254
03:42:00,100 --> 03:42:02,401
before the region today.

7255
03:42:04,100 --> 03:42:06,100
With what we know now

7256
03:42:06,100 --> 03:42:07,100
about what this project cost,

7257
03:42:07,100 --> 03:42:09,100
we brought in a contractor,

7258
03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:11,100
we turned over every rock,

7259
03:42:11,100 --> 03:42:12,100
how cheap can you make it

7260
03:42:12,100 --> 03:42:15,100
in today's ball to market?

7261
03:42:17,100 --> 03:42:18,100
Does the region want

7262
03:42:18,100 --> 03:42:19,100
to move forward

7263
03:42:19,100 --> 03:42:20,100
with this project or not?

7264
03:42:20,100 --> 03:42:21,100
That's the question.

7265
03:42:21,100 --> 03:42:23,100
And then if they want

7266
03:42:23,100 --> 03:42:25,100
to move forward, which one?

7267
03:42:25,100 --> 03:42:27,100
And if that's the choice,

7268
03:42:27,100 --> 03:42:30,100
we have a steep hill to climb

7269
03:42:30,100 --> 03:42:31,100
in a, where the state and

7270
03:42:31,100 --> 03:42:33,100
federal funding is uncertain,

7271
03:42:33,100 --> 03:42:35,100
and the construction market is

7272
03:42:35,100 --> 03:42:37,100
volatile.

7273
03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:38,100
Do we want to take that next

7274
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:40,100
step or not?

7275
03:42:40,100 --> 03:42:42,100
That's the question.

7276
03:42:46,100 --> 03:42:49,100
Sorry, I do not want to, if

7277
03:42:49,100 --> 03:42:52,100
Desiree or Andrea, so I just

7278
03:42:52,100 --> 03:42:54,100
want to point out, and we have

7279
03:42:54,100 --> 03:42:56,100
three new council people here,

7280
03:42:56,100 --> 03:42:58,100
but Councilman Brownrigg and I,

7281
03:42:58,100 --> 03:43:01,100
you know, I expressed great

7282
03:43:01,100 --> 03:43:02,100
concern that this is not the

7283
03:43:02,100 --> 03:43:04,100
first time that we've had this

7284
03:43:04,100 --> 03:43:06,100
kind of a problem.

7285
03:43:06,100 --> 03:43:07,100
The first time we had this

7286
03:43:07,100 --> 03:43:08,100
problem was

7287
03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:09,100
over the parallel station,

7288
03:43:09,100 --> 03:43:10,100
which was going

7289
03:43:10,100 --> 03:43:11,100
to be built right adjacent

7290
03:43:11,100 --> 03:43:12,100
to where we're talking

7291
03:43:12,100 --> 03:43:14,100
about grade separation.

7292
03:43:14,100 --> 03:43:15,100
And when I asked,

7293
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:17,100
and we had an outpour

7294
03:43:17,100 --> 03:43:19,100
of community dissent about

7295
03:43:19,100 --> 03:43:21,100
building this monstrosity right

7296
03:43:21,100 --> 03:43:22,100
in front

7297
03:43:22,100 --> 03:43:23,100
of all these homeowners.

7298
03:43:23,100 --> 03:43:25,100
So they all came

7299
03:43:25,100 --> 03:43:26,100
out and we were given 24 hours

7300
03:43:26,100 --> 03:43:28,401
to solve this problem.

7301
03:43:30,100 --> 03:43:32,401
The most disconcerting thing

7302
03:43:34,100 --> 03:43:35,100
that happened was we asked, so

7303
03:43:35,100 --> 03:43:36,100
wait, you're going to build a

7304
03:43:36,100 --> 03:43:38,100
$17 million parallel station

7305
03:43:38,100 --> 03:43:40,100
on a location that's going

7306
03:43:40,100 --> 03:43:41,100
to need a grade separation?

7307
03:43:41,100 --> 03:43:43,100
And we were told

7308
03:43:43,100 --> 03:43:44,100
in that meeting, oh, yeah,

7309
03:43:44,100 --> 03:43:46,100
we'll just tear it

7310
03:43:46,100 --> 03:43:48,100
down and we'll rebuild it

7311
03:43:48,100 --> 03:43:49,100
into the new station, $17

7312
03:43:49,100 --> 03:43:50,100
million

7313
03:43:50,100 --> 03:43:53,100
of wasted taxpayer money, which

7314
03:43:53,100 --> 03:43:54,100
either says you never planned

7315
03:43:54,100 --> 03:43:57,100
to build this station ever,

7316
03:43:58,100 --> 03:44:01,100
or you were foolish enough to

7317
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:03,100
think that you could build and

7318
03:44:03,100 --> 03:44:04,100
then tear it

7319
03:44:04,100 --> 03:44:05,100
down and waste that much money

7320
03:44:05,100 --> 03:44:07,100
of taxpayers' money.

7321
03:44:07,100 --> 03:44:08,100
We solved that problem, thank

7322
03:44:08,100 --> 03:44:09,100
goodness, from our amazing

7323
03:44:09,100 --> 03:44:11,100
staff and our lawyers and our

7324
03:44:11,100 --> 03:44:12,100
city manager, Michael.

7325
03:44:12,100 --> 03:44:14,100
We sat down with a map.

7326
03:44:14,100 --> 03:44:15,100
By two feet, we put it

7327
03:44:15,100 --> 03:44:16,100
on our own property.

7328
03:44:16,100 --> 03:44:17,100
We signed the papers,

7329
03:44:17,100 --> 03:44:18,100
got an MOU together in 24

7330
03:44:18,100 --> 03:44:19,100
hours.

7331
03:44:19,100 --> 03:44:21,100
And when did that project

7332
03:44:21,100 --> 03:44:23,100
start?

7333
03:44:23,100 --> 03:44:25,100
Two years later.

7334
03:44:25,100 --> 03:44:26,100
Two years later.

7335
03:44:26,100 --> 03:44:28,100
So these are the things that

7336
03:44:28,100 --> 03:44:29,100
have given pause to those

7337
03:44:29,100 --> 03:44:30,100
of us who've been working

7338
03:44:30,100 --> 03:44:33,100
on this for a decade.

7339
03:44:33,100 --> 03:44:35,100
And one of the reasons we don't

7340
03:44:35,100 --> 03:44:37,100
have a lot of confidence

7341
03:44:37,100 --> 03:44:40,100
in this, and I point out one

7342
03:44:40,100 --> 03:44:42,100
other thing that the mayor and

7343
03:44:42,100 --> 03:44:43,100
I discussed today with staff,

7344
03:44:43,100 --> 03:44:45,100
and that is, for example,

7345
03:44:45,100 --> 03:44:46,100
on the funding need,

7346
03:44:46,100 --> 03:44:47,100
the advanced updated

7347
03:44:47,100 --> 03:44:49,100
alternative to 65%.

7348
03:44:49,100 --> 03:44:50,100
So thankfully, we had a former

7349
03:44:50,100 --> 03:44:52,100
mayor, Gina Pappin,

7350
03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:57,100
representative

7351
03:44:57,100 --> 03:44:58,100
of MTC was there,

7352
03:44:58,100 --> 03:44:59,100
and I think she got right

7353
03:44:59,100 --> 03:45:00,100
to the heart of this,

7354
03:45:00,100 --> 03:45:02,100
which was we've already spent

7355
03:45:02,100 --> 03:45:04,100
$20 million on design.

7356
03:45:04,100 --> 03:45:06,100
We don't throw it

7357
03:45:06,100 --> 03:45:08,100
out and start again.

7358
03:45:08,100 --> 03:45:10,100
You just start rebuilding.

7359
03:45:10,100 --> 03:45:12,100
And you know, when we look

7360
03:45:12,100 --> 03:45:14,100
here, designer,

7361
03:45:14,100 --> 03:45:17,100
for nine months of design work

7362
03:45:17,100 --> 03:45:19,100
by a new designer to do this,

7363
03:45:19,100 --> 03:45:21,100
$9.3 million

7364
03:45:22,100 --> 03:45:24,100
to design an overpass, that's a

7365
03:45:24,100 --> 03:45:26,401
million dollars a month.

7366
03:45:27,100 --> 03:45:29,100
The mayor calculated it, it's

7367
03:45:29,100 --> 03:45:30,100
like 25 people full-time

7368
03:45:30,100 --> 03:45:32,100
for nine months.

7369
03:45:32,100 --> 03:45:33,100
Is that really what it takes

7370
03:45:33,100 --> 03:45:35,100
to redesign this?

7371
03:45:35,100 --> 03:45:36,100
It just cannot.

7372
03:45:36,100 --> 03:45:39,100
So it's these numbers that just

7373
03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:41,100
give me so much pause and

7374
03:45:41,100 --> 03:45:42,100
concern,

7375
03:45:42,100 --> 03:45:44,100
and are where we really dove

7376
03:45:44,100 --> 03:45:45,100
down on a lot

7377
03:45:45,100 --> 03:45:47,100
of these meetings.

7378
03:45:47,100 --> 03:45:48,100
Plausibility and just,

7379
03:45:48,100 --> 03:45:50,401
and I wholeheartedly agree

7380
03:45:51,100 --> 03:45:53,100
with Councilman Brownrigg,

7381
03:45:53,100 --> 03:45:55,100
it's, you know, the adage

7382
03:45:55,100 --> 03:45:57,100
of throwing good money

7383
03:45:57,100 --> 03:45:58,100
after bad, you know,

7384
03:45:58,100 --> 03:46:00,401
where do you stop?

7385
03:46:01,100 --> 03:46:03,100
So I mean, this was the level

7386
03:46:03,100 --> 03:46:04,100
of frustration we were dealing

7387
03:46:04,100 --> 03:46:05,100
with.

7388
03:46:05,100 --> 03:46:07,100
At the end of the day, dealing

7389
03:46:07,100 --> 03:46:09,100
with all this frustration,

7390
03:46:09,100 --> 03:46:12,100
I think we have to, you know, I

7391
03:46:12,100 --> 03:46:15,100
think you can be assured that

7392
03:46:15,100 --> 03:46:17,100
your sort of sentiments today

7393
03:46:17,100 --> 03:46:19,100
have been echoed profusely

7394
03:46:19,100 --> 03:46:21,100
in many meetings, and I am

7395
03:46:21,100 --> 03:46:23,100
grateful that you also feel the

7396
03:46:23,100 --> 03:46:26,100
same way that we feel.

7397
03:46:27,100 --> 03:46:28,100
Trying to get through the

7398
03:46:28,100 --> 03:46:29,100
decision-making process today

7399
03:46:29,100 --> 03:46:30,100
of, you know, is it one, two,

7400
03:46:30,100 --> 03:46:33,100
three, or four, and then how

7401
03:46:33,100 --> 03:46:34,100
do, you know, do we proceed,

7402
03:46:34,100 --> 03:46:36,100
and, you know, there's a

7403
03:46:36,100 --> 03:46:38,100
decision five that's not

7404
03:46:38,100 --> 03:46:41,100
on here, which is do nothing,

7405
03:46:41,100 --> 03:46:44,100
or just do the safety features,

7406
03:46:44,100 --> 03:46:47,100
and then the question becomes,

7407
03:46:47,100 --> 03:46:48,100
you know, do we keep the train

7408
03:46:48,100 --> 03:46:51,100
station open and force them

7409
03:46:51,100 --> 03:46:52,100
to make good

7410
03:46:52,100 --> 03:46:53,100
on their agreement and have

7411
03:46:53,100 --> 03:46:54,100
to stop at that train station

7412
03:46:54,100 --> 03:46:55,100
and do the work that they had

7413
03:46:55,100 --> 03:46:56,100
to do?

7414
03:46:56,100 --> 03:46:57,100
Then we do have to do TOD

7415
03:46:57,100 --> 03:46:58,100
development in that area, which

7416
03:46:58,100 --> 03:47:00,100
I think the community should

7417
03:47:00,100 --> 03:47:02,100
have a say in.

7418
03:47:02,100 --> 03:47:03,100
Do they want to be able to

7419
03:47:03,100 --> 03:47:06,100
build housing there that would

7420
03:47:06,100 --> 03:47:07,100
have no parking because

7421
03:47:07,100 --> 03:47:08,100
of the proximity

7422
03:47:08,100 --> 03:47:10,100
to an operating train station?

7423
03:47:10,100 --> 03:47:11,100
And by the way, we found out

7424
03:47:11,100 --> 03:47:12,100
even if the train stops once a

7425
03:47:12,100 --> 03:47:15,100
week, it's considered a train

7426
03:47:16,100 --> 03:47:18,100
station, and it has

7427
03:47:18,100 --> 03:47:19,100
to be TOD.

7428
03:47:19,100 --> 03:47:20,100
Yep.

7429
03:47:20,100 --> 03:47:22,100
So it's not a maybe, a sort of,

7430
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:24,100
a this or that,

7431
03:47:24,100 --> 03:47:25,100
it's either it's open and it's

7432
03:47:25,100 --> 03:47:27,100
TOD,

7433
03:47:27,100 --> 03:47:29,100
and now the zoning standards

7434
03:47:29,100 --> 03:47:31,100
set by the state apply,

7435
03:47:31,100 --> 03:47:32,100
and no parking requirements,

7436
03:47:32,100 --> 03:47:34,401
greater density, all these

7437
03:47:35,100 --> 03:47:36,100
things that the neighborhood

7438
03:47:36,100 --> 03:47:39,100
has made very clear in this

7439
03:47:39,100 --> 03:47:41,100
planning session that we've

7440
03:47:41,100 --> 03:47:42,100
been working on, this specific

7441
03:47:42,100 --> 03:47:44,100
plan, that they don't want.

7442
03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:45,100
So you can't have both,

7443
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:46,100
you can't have a train station,

7444
03:47:46,100 --> 03:47:47,100
and if you have a train

7445
03:47:47,100 --> 03:47:49,100
station, you have

7446
03:47:49,100 --> 03:47:51,100
to have TOD.

7447
03:47:51,100 --> 03:47:53,100
So that conversation needs

7448
03:47:53,100 --> 03:47:55,100
to go back to the community,

7449
03:47:55,100 --> 03:47:57,100
but, you know, option number

7450
03:47:57,100 --> 03:47:59,100
five is you keep it as it is,

7451
03:47:59,100 --> 03:48:00,100
they have to upgrade it

7452
03:48:00,100 --> 03:48:02,100
to the standards required,

7453
03:48:02,100 --> 03:48:03,100
and it stays non-grade

7454
03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:05,100
separated, and you have a

7455
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:07,100
station or you don't.

7456
03:48:07,100 --> 03:48:10,100
So, you know, these are big,

7457
03:48:10,100 --> 03:48:12,100
important questions, and a lot

7458
03:48:12,100 --> 03:48:13,100
of it depends

7459
03:48:13,100 --> 03:48:14,100
on our TA meetings this week,

7460
03:48:14,100 --> 03:48:15,100
because if the TA says we're

7461
03:48:15,100 --> 03:48:17,100
not going to fund to give you

7462
03:48:17,100 --> 03:48:20,100
every dollar that we have,

7463
03:48:20,100 --> 03:48:22,100
and we don't have that, I just

7464
03:48:22,100 --> 03:48:23,100
don't understand where we're

7465
03:48:23,100 --> 03:48:25,100
going

7466
03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:28,100
to have a basis or a footing.

7467
03:48:28,100 --> 03:48:30,100
Council Member Pappajohn, did

7468
03:48:30,100 --> 03:48:32,100
you have a question?

7469
03:48:32,100 --> 03:48:33,100
Thank you, Mayor.

7470
03:48:33,100 --> 03:48:36,100
So do we, I heard you say we

7471
03:48:36,100 --> 03:48:37,100
have this placeholder where we

7472
03:48:37,100 --> 03:48:39,100
have to spend, is it $20

7473
03:48:39,100 --> 03:48:41,100
million or $18 million just

7474
03:48:41,100 --> 03:48:44,100
for a placeholder, I mean.

7475
03:48:45,100 --> 03:48:46,100
It was asking the designers,

7476
03:48:46,100 --> 03:48:48,100
we don't know which package,

7477
03:48:48,100 --> 03:48:49,100
but

7478
03:48:49,100 --> 03:48:50,100
about how much would it be,

7479
03:48:50,100 --> 03:48:51,100
realizing we will still need

7480
03:48:51,100 --> 03:48:53,100
to figure out what scope, the

7481
03:48:53,100 --> 03:48:54,100
duration,

7482
03:48:54,100 --> 03:48:56,100
and get a proposal and do a lot

7483
03:48:56,100 --> 03:48:57,100
of negotiations.

7484
03:48:57,100 --> 03:48:58,100
So we put a number there

7485
03:48:58,100 --> 03:49:00,100
to say, we're going to ask

7486
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:01,100
for money, it's

7487
03:49:01,100 --> 03:49:03,100
about this much, we expect it

7488
03:49:03,100 --> 03:49:05,100
to be less, but we needed

7489
03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:07,100
at least what's the range

7490
03:49:07,100 --> 03:49:08,100
of cost,

7491
03:49:08,100 --> 03:49:09,100
because there would be work

7492
03:49:09,100 --> 03:49:10,100
to redo the 65% design,

7493
03:49:10,100 --> 03:49:12,100
but we have a lot more homework

7494
03:49:12,100 --> 03:49:14,100
to do on that.

7495
03:49:14,100 --> 03:49:16,100
Thank you, I mean, can we wait

7496
03:49:16,100 --> 03:49:17,100
until we hear

7497
03:49:17,100 --> 03:49:18,000
from the TA and other agencies,

7498
03:49:18,000 --> 03:49:20,100
I guess it's mainly the TA,

7499
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:21,100
about funding before we even

7500
03:49:21,100 --> 03:49:23,100
move forward with.

7501
03:49:24,100 --> 03:49:25,100
I think they need

7502
03:49:25,100 --> 03:49:26,100
to know what the funding, that

7503
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:28,100
tonight's meeting will help

7504
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:29,100
them make a decision,

7505
03:49:29,100 --> 03:49:32,100
because if we say we're going

7506
03:49:32,100 --> 03:49:33,100
to go to one or the other, you

7507
03:49:33,100 --> 03:49:34,100
know, whatever our feedback is,

7508
03:49:34,100 --> 03:49:35,100
they're going to,

7509
03:49:35,100 --> 03:49:36,100
they'll take that into

7510
03:49:36,100 --> 03:49:38,100
consideration.

7511
03:49:39,100 --> 03:49:41,100
I think it would be,

7512
03:49:41,100 --> 03:49:42,100
did you want

7513
03:49:42,100 --> 03:49:43,100
to address that?

7514
03:49:43,100 --> 03:49:45,100
Yeah, I wanted to prioritize

7515
03:49:45,100 --> 03:49:46,100
the decision making for

7516
03:49:46,100 --> 03:49:48,100
Council, is that the first

7517
03:49:48,100 --> 03:49:50,100
question is, for Council, is do

7518
03:49:50,100 --> 03:49:52,100
we have a project?

7519
03:49:52,100 --> 03:49:53,100
Do we have a viable project?

7520
03:49:53,100 --> 03:49:54,100
That's the first question.

7521
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:56,100
And if we do,

7522
03:49:56,100 --> 03:49:57,100
which option do we want?

7523
03:49:57,100 --> 03:49:58,100
And if we address those two

7524
03:49:58,100 --> 03:50:00,100
questions,

7525
03:50:00,100 --> 03:50:01,100
then the third question about

7526
03:50:01,100 --> 03:50:03,100
the near-term funding need,

7527
03:50:03,100 --> 03:50:04,100
the $20 million,

7528
03:50:04,100 --> 03:50:05,100
we will come back

7529
03:50:05,100 --> 03:50:06,100
to you later,

7530
03:50:06,100 --> 03:50:07,100
because they have

7531
03:50:07,100 --> 03:50:08,100
to do some homework

7532
03:50:08,100 --> 03:50:09,100
about bringing that cost

7533
03:50:09,100 --> 03:50:10,100
down further,

7534
03:50:10,100 --> 03:50:11,100
so we'll come back to you.

7535
03:50:11,100 --> 03:50:12,100
The first two questions are

7536
03:50:12,100 --> 03:50:13,100
whether we have a project,

7537
03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:15,100
and what option do we want,

7538
03:50:15,100 --> 03:50:18,100
those are two big questions.

7539
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:24,100
I will say then, I think it

7540
03:50:24,100 --> 03:50:26,100
would be irresponsible not

7541
03:50:26,100 --> 03:50:28,100
to move forward

7542
03:50:28,100 --> 03:50:29,100
with the project, because of

7543
03:50:29,100 --> 03:50:31,100
the liabilities and health and

7544
03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:33,100
safety of the public.

7545
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:35,100
And yeah,

7546
03:50:37,100 --> 03:50:39,100
that's where I am open to, you

7547
03:50:39,100 --> 03:50:40,100
know,

7548
03:50:40,100 --> 03:50:42,100
hearing what my colleagues have

7549
03:50:42,100 --> 03:50:44,100
to say.

7550
03:50:44,100 --> 03:50:45,100
Do you, may I ask, Mr. Mayor,

7551
03:50:45,100 --> 03:50:47,100
sorry, may I ask,

7552
03:50:47,100 --> 03:50:48,100
do you have a preference

7553
03:50:48,100 --> 03:50:50,100
of one, two, three, or four?

7554
03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:52,100
Yeah, I'll, well,

7555
03:50:54,100 --> 03:50:55,100
I saw the recommendation

7556
03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:57,100
from the subcommittee,

7557
03:50:57,100 --> 03:50:58,100
a recommendation

7558
03:50:58,100 --> 03:51:00,100
on package four.

7559
03:51:00,100 --> 03:51:01,100
And so, you know, I would,

7560
03:51:01,100 --> 03:51:03,100
I know you have spent a lot

7561
03:51:03,100 --> 03:51:06,100
of time on it, as well as the

7562
03:51:06,100 --> 03:51:08,100
mayor, and, you know,

7563
03:51:08,100 --> 03:51:09,100
I really appreciate that,

7564
03:51:09,100 --> 03:51:12,100
and I would just defer

7565
03:51:12,100 --> 03:51:13,100
to your recommendation.

7566
03:51:13,100 --> 03:51:15,100
And I think just, you know, we

7567
03:51:15,100 --> 03:51:17,100
can, it's simpler,

7568
03:51:19,100 --> 03:51:20,100
we're just going

7569
03:51:20,100 --> 03:51:21,100
to solve the problem

7570
03:51:21,100 --> 03:51:22,100
of the grade separation, and

7571
03:51:22,100 --> 03:51:23,100
just forego the station.

7572
03:51:23,100 --> 03:51:24,100
I think that's the problem,

7573
03:51:24,100 --> 03:51:26,100
the grade separation.

7574
03:51:26,100 --> 03:51:28,100
So, I agree.

7575
03:51:29,100 --> 03:51:31,100
Just a suggestion on process,

7576
03:51:31,100 --> 03:51:33,100
Mr. Mayor, so I'd like,

7577
03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:34,100
I know we all want to hear

7578
03:51:34,100 --> 03:51:35,100
from Council Member Thayer,

7579
03:51:35,100 --> 03:51:36,100
but before we start voting,

7580
03:51:36,100 --> 03:51:38,100
we might have public.

7581
03:51:38,100 --> 03:51:40,100
Yeah, that would be helpful,

7582
03:51:40,100 --> 03:51:41,100
yeah.

7583
03:51:41,100 --> 03:51:42,100
Thank you.

7584
03:51:42,100 --> 03:51:43,100
Yeah.

7585
03:51:43,100 --> 03:51:45,100
Yeah, I mean, I guess

7586
03:51:45,100 --> 03:51:47,100
in my mind, it's a little hard

7587
03:51:47,100 --> 03:51:48,100
for me to know, do we actually

7588
03:51:48,100 --> 03:51:50,100
have a viable project here?

7589
03:51:50,100 --> 03:51:51,100
I mean, just because the

7590
03:51:51,100 --> 03:51:52,100
funding situation for all

7591
03:51:52,100 --> 03:51:54,100
of them, it seems

7592
03:51:54,100 --> 03:51:56,100
like it's going

7593
03:51:56,100 --> 03:51:57,100
to be difficult.

7594
03:51:57,100 --> 03:51:58,100
There's more than $200 million

7595
03:51:58,100 --> 03:52:01,100
gap for all of them.

7596
03:52:02,100 --> 03:52:03,100
I guess I'm thinking between,

7597
03:52:03,100 --> 03:52:04,100
if I had to choose

7598
03:52:04,100 --> 03:52:07,100
between options three and four,

7599
03:52:07,100 --> 03:52:09,100
there was less of a gap,

7600
03:52:09,100 --> 03:52:10,100
at least

7601
03:52:10,100 --> 03:52:11,100
at the current numbers,

7602
03:52:11,100 --> 03:52:13,100
it was something like $23

7603
03:52:13,100 --> 03:52:14,100
million difference

7604
03:52:14,100 --> 03:52:15,100
between the two,

7605
03:52:15,100 --> 03:52:17,100
and having that option to still

7606
03:52:17,100 --> 03:52:19,100
have the station deferred,

7607
03:52:19,100 --> 03:52:21,100
maybe it's wishful thinking.

7608
03:52:21,100 --> 03:52:24,100
But I do think having that

7609
03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:26,100
station,

7610
03:52:26,100 --> 03:52:28,100
that neighborhood where I live,

7611
03:52:28,100 --> 03:52:30,100
we really could get a lot more

7612
03:52:30,100 --> 03:52:32,100
people on transit, and the

7613
03:52:32,100 --> 03:52:33,100
reason why it's not well

7614
03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:35,100
utilized now is because it is a

7615
03:52:35,100 --> 03:52:37,100
weekend only stop.

7616
03:52:39,100 --> 03:52:41,100
But first and foremost

7617
03:52:41,100 --> 03:52:42,100
for me is safety.

7618
03:52:42,100 --> 03:52:44,100
So if we have to get rid of the

7619
03:52:44,100 --> 03:52:45,100
station because the only thing

7620
03:52:45,100 --> 03:52:47,100
we afford is grade separating

7621
03:52:47,100 --> 03:52:48,100
without a station,

7622
03:52:48,100 --> 03:52:49,100
then that's why I'm kind

7623
03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:50,100
of thinking between options

7624
03:52:50,100 --> 03:52:51,100
three and four.

7625
03:52:51,100 --> 03:52:53,100
Thank you.

7626
03:52:53,100 --> 03:52:57,100
I think a lot of what I would

7627
03:52:57,100 --> 03:52:58,100
say has been said.

7628
03:52:58,100 --> 03:53:00,100
I think we have a challenge

7629
03:53:00,100 --> 03:53:01,100
structurally in the way we

7630
03:53:01,100 --> 03:53:03,100
approach capital projects on

7631
03:53:03,100 --> 03:53:05,100
the grade separation concept

7632
03:53:05,100 --> 03:53:06,100
and topic.

7633
03:53:06,100 --> 03:53:08,100
The reality is plenty

7634
03:53:08,100 --> 03:53:09,100
of other communities on the

7635
03:53:09,100 --> 03:53:10,100
corridor have already done

7636
03:53:10,100 --> 03:53:11,100
their project.

7637
03:53:11,100 --> 03:53:12,100
Where was learning

7638
03:53:12,100 --> 03:53:15,100
from those about, you know,

7639
03:53:16,100 --> 03:53:17,100
whether you're talking about

7640
03:53:17,100 --> 03:53:19,100
San Bruno or South City or

7641
03:53:19,100 --> 03:53:20,100
Belmont or, let's face it,

7642
03:53:20,100 --> 03:53:22,100
there's no institutional

7643
03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:25,100
knowledge being leveraged

7644
03:53:25,100 --> 03:53:27,100
because Caltrain looks

7645
03:53:27,100 --> 03:53:30,100
at this as a city level project

7646
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:32,100
in coordination rather than a

7647
03:53:32,100 --> 03:53:34,401
responsibility of the Caltrain

7648
03:53:35,100 --> 03:53:37,100
organization.

7649
03:53:37,100 --> 03:53:38,100
And so the right resources

7650
03:53:38,100 --> 03:53:39,100
aren't brought

7651
03:53:39,100 --> 03:53:41,100
in necessarily.

7652
03:53:41,100 --> 03:53:42,100
We don't have institutional

7653
03:53:42,100 --> 03:53:43,100
learning.

7654
03:53:43,100 --> 03:53:44,100
We don't leverage the fact that

7655
03:53:44,100 --> 03:53:45,100
a contractor might bid

7656
03:53:45,100 --> 03:53:46,100
on both projects

7657
03:53:46,100 --> 03:53:48,100
for different communities.

7658
03:53:48,100 --> 03:53:50,100
We go after funding

7659
03:53:50,100 --> 03:53:51,100
at an individual city level.

7660
03:53:51,100 --> 03:53:52,100
There's very little

7661
03:53:52,100 --> 03:53:53,100
coordination at the Caltrain

7662
03:53:53,100 --> 03:53:54,100
level.

7663
03:53:54,100 --> 03:53:55,100
And it's just a disaster

7664
03:53:55,100 --> 03:53:57,100
recipe.

7665
03:53:58,100 --> 03:54:01,100
And so I do think there's the

7666
03:54:01,100 --> 03:54:03,100
first question is the viability

7667
03:54:03,100 --> 03:54:05,100
of is there a project?

7668
03:54:05,100 --> 03:54:07,100
I think the answer is if that's

7669
03:54:07,100 --> 03:54:08,100
yes, then the only option we

7670
03:54:08,100 --> 03:54:10,100
have is four.

7671
03:54:10,100 --> 03:54:12,100
Because we haven't even been

7672
03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:13,100
able to in the previous design

7673
03:54:13,100 --> 03:54:15,100
close the gap on full funding

7674
03:54:15,100 --> 03:54:16,100
in the way things have been,

7675
03:54:16,100 --> 03:54:20,201
you know, and then you put the

7676
03:54:21,100 --> 03:54:22,100
macro climate around it, it

7677
03:54:22,100 --> 03:54:24,100
makes it even more difficult.

7678
03:54:24,100 --> 03:54:27,601
So I do think the idea

7679
03:54:30,100 --> 03:54:32,100
of a station,

7680
03:54:33,100 --> 03:54:34,100
while conceptually may look

7681
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:35,100
interesting,

7682
03:54:35,100 --> 03:54:36,100
the reality is the numbers even

7683
03:54:36,100 --> 03:54:37,100
before COVID never justified

7684
03:54:37,100 --> 03:54:39,100
it.

7685
03:54:39,100 --> 03:54:40,100
You know, ridership was always

7686
03:54:40,100 --> 03:54:41,100
very low.

7687
03:54:41,100 --> 03:54:42,100
It wasn't highly utilized.

7688
03:54:42,100 --> 03:54:43,100
So that makes the decision

7689
03:54:43,100 --> 03:54:45,100
about which option

7690
03:54:45,100 --> 03:54:46,100
for me is four.

7691
03:54:46,100 --> 03:54:48,401
Because that's the only

7692
03:54:49,100 --> 03:54:50,100
financially realistic shot we

7693
03:54:50,100 --> 03:54:51,100
have.

7694
03:54:51,100 --> 03:54:52,100
But we still need to get

7695
03:54:52,100 --> 03:54:54,401
answers on, frankly, some

7696
03:54:56,100 --> 03:54:58,401
of the initial costs

7697
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:01,100
in the next several weeks

7698
03:55:01,100 --> 03:55:02,100
to make that, you know,

7699
03:55:02,100 --> 03:55:04,100
palatable.

7700
03:55:04,100 --> 03:55:05,100
But go ahead.

7701
03:55:05,100 --> 03:55:07,100
Well, just before I opine

7702
03:55:07,100 --> 03:55:08,100
on one, two, three, or four,

7703
03:55:08,100 --> 03:55:09,100
again,

7704
03:55:09,100 --> 03:55:10,100
I think it would be helpful to

7705
03:55:10,100 --> 03:55:11,100
at least see if there's anyone

7706
03:55:11,100 --> 03:55:12,100
in the public who wants

7707
03:55:12,100 --> 03:55:14,100
to comment.

7708
03:55:15,100 --> 03:55:16,100
But is there an option besides

7709
03:55:16,100 --> 03:55:18,100
Caltrain to do design work?

7710
03:55:18,100 --> 03:55:19,100
Because this doesn't seem

7711
03:55:19,100 --> 03:55:20,100
to be working.

7712
03:55:20,100 --> 03:55:22,100
So that's a serious,

7713
03:55:22,100 --> 03:55:23,100
that's not meant

7714
03:55:23,100 --> 03:55:24,100
to be a slight,

7715
03:55:24,100 --> 03:55:25,100
that's a serious question.

7716
03:55:25,100 --> 03:55:28,100
Is there a way to get different

7717
03:55:28,100 --> 03:55:30,100
engineers involved?

7718
03:55:34,100 --> 03:55:36,100
So, this project was done

7719
03:55:36,100 --> 03:55:39,100
in phases, and the preliminary

7720
03:55:39,100 --> 03:55:42,100
engineering team didn't get the

7721
03:55:42,100 --> 03:55:44,100
award for final design.

7722
03:55:44,100 --> 03:55:46,100
Caltrain, the city,

7723
03:55:46,100 --> 03:55:49,100
and the TA put out our RFP

7724
03:55:49,100 --> 03:55:51,100
to design community.

7725
03:55:52,100 --> 03:55:54,100
They jointly selected Mark

7726
03:55:54,100 --> 03:55:55,100
Thomas

7727
03:55:55,100 --> 03:55:57,100
to advance final design.

7728
03:55:57,100 --> 03:55:59,100
We worked with Mark Thomas

7729
03:55:59,100 --> 03:56:01,100
to generate the drawings, to

7730
03:56:01,100 --> 03:56:02,100
implement the vision as we

7731
03:56:02,100 --> 03:56:04,100
understood it.

7732
03:56:05,100 --> 03:56:06,100
That was already in flight when

7733
03:56:06,100 --> 03:56:08,100
I joined the team.

7734
03:56:08,100 --> 03:56:10,100
Taking a look at this,

7735
03:56:10,100 --> 03:56:11,100
we now have electrified

7736
03:56:11,100 --> 03:56:12,100
service, and we increased our

7737
03:56:12,100 --> 03:56:14,100
frequency.

7738
03:56:14,100 --> 03:56:16,100
The construction market is

7739
03:56:16,100 --> 03:56:18,100
highly volatile.

7740
03:56:18,100 --> 03:56:19,100
We better go get ourselves a

7741
03:56:19,100 --> 03:56:20,100
contractor

7742
03:56:20,100 --> 03:56:21,100
to estimate this price,

7743
03:56:21,100 --> 03:56:23,401
this project for us.

7744
03:56:24,100 --> 03:56:25,100
And we got that price.

7745
03:56:25,100 --> 03:56:26,100
It wasn't what any

7746
03:56:26,100 --> 03:56:27,100
of us expected

7747
03:56:27,100 --> 03:56:28,100
from what we heard from three

7748
03:56:28,100 --> 03:56:29,100
different design firms.

7749
03:56:29,100 --> 03:56:31,100
Those prices weren't

7750
03:56:31,100 --> 03:56:32,100
from the one we have.

7751
03:56:32,100 --> 03:56:35,100
They were from the prior group

7752
03:56:35,100 --> 03:56:36,100
for that estimating.

7753
03:56:36,100 --> 03:56:37,100
We brought on Mark Thomas

7754
03:56:37,100 --> 03:56:39,100
to do the design for us,

7755
03:56:39,100 --> 03:56:40,100
and then we brought

7756
03:56:40,100 --> 03:56:41,100
on a contractor

7757
03:56:41,100 --> 03:56:43,100
to give us a price,

7758
03:56:43,100 --> 03:56:45,100
and it's not what we expected.

7759
03:56:45,100 --> 03:56:46,100
So I don't think it's the

7760
03:56:46,100 --> 03:56:47,100
design team here.

7761
03:56:47,100 --> 03:56:49,100
It's now we've got, if we get,

7762
03:56:49,100 --> 03:56:51,100
if the decision is made, as a

7763
03:56:51,100 --> 03:56:52,100
region,

7764
03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:53,100
let's advance this project.

7765
03:56:53,100 --> 03:56:54,100
We don't know how we're going

7766
03:56:54,100 --> 03:56:56,100
to fund it in totality,

7767
03:56:56,100 --> 03:56:57,100
but we want

7768
03:56:57,100 --> 03:57:00,100
to take that next step, get

7769
03:57:00,100 --> 03:57:02,100
to 65% design, continue

7770
03:57:03,100 --> 03:57:04,100
over this next year to try

7771
03:57:04,100 --> 03:57:06,401
to drive costs down,

7772
03:57:07,100 --> 03:57:08,100
and how fast can we build it,

7773
03:57:08,100 --> 03:57:11,100
and come back, and try

7774
03:57:11,100 --> 03:57:12,100
to find a way to want

7775
03:57:12,100 --> 03:57:14,100
to lower the cost

7776
03:57:14,100 --> 03:57:16,100
to lower that gap, because

7777
03:57:16,100 --> 03:57:17,100
state and federal funding is

7778
03:57:17,100 --> 03:57:19,100
uncertain,

7779
03:57:20,100 --> 03:57:23,100
or let's not do the work.

7780
03:57:23,100 --> 03:57:24,100
So I don't think it's the

7781
03:57:24,100 --> 03:57:26,100
design team.

7782
03:57:29,100 --> 03:57:31,100
To Vice Mayor Brownrigg's

7783
03:57:31,100 --> 03:57:33,401
request, is there folks

7784
03:57:34,100 --> 03:57:36,100
in the audience who are part

7785
03:57:36,100 --> 03:57:38,100
of the public that would like

7786
03:57:38,100 --> 03:57:39,100
to comment or share

7787
03:57:39,100 --> 03:57:40,100
perspective?

7788
03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:42,100
Okay.

7789
03:57:46,100 --> 03:57:48,100
Yeah, I've got some comments.

7790
03:57:48,100 --> 03:57:49,100
May I, before,

7791
03:57:49,100 --> 03:57:51,100
since we only have one member

7792
03:57:51,100 --> 03:57:52,100
of the public commenting, I

7793
03:57:52,100 --> 03:57:53,100
would really appreciate the

7794
03:57:53,100 --> 03:57:55,100
opportunity to hear more than

7795
03:57:55,100 --> 03:57:56,100
three minutes, just under this

7796
03:57:56,100 --> 03:57:58,100
particular circumstance.

7797
03:57:58,100 --> 03:58:00,100
If he exceeds, would it be the

7798
03:58:00,100 --> 03:58:01,100
mayor's pleasure?

7799
03:58:01,100 --> 03:58:03,100
With colleagues,

7800
03:58:03,100 --> 03:58:04,100
there's not a lot of, yeah,

7801
03:58:04,100 --> 03:58:05,100
so go for it.

7802
03:58:05,100 --> 03:58:06,100
No time.

7803
03:58:06,100 --> 03:58:07,100
Well, I've shrunk

7804
03:58:07,100 --> 03:58:09,100
down my one minute and 47

7805
03:58:09,100 --> 03:58:11,401
second presentation, because I,

7806
03:58:14,100 --> 03:58:16,100
at this point, kind of feel

7807
03:58:16,100 --> 03:58:17,100
like I'm rearranging deck

7808
03:58:17,100 --> 03:58:18,100
chairs on the Titanic,

7809
03:58:18,100 --> 03:58:21,100
to use a hackneyed phrase,

7810
03:58:21,100 --> 03:58:22,100
which I've always loved.

7811
03:58:22,100 --> 03:58:25,100
In any event, over 100 years

7812
03:58:29,100 --> 03:58:31,100
ago, Broadway was created as a

7813
03:58:31,100 --> 03:58:33,100
transit village.

7814
03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:38,100
By 1990, we had the highest

7815
03:58:40,100 --> 03:58:42,100
ridership of any station

7816
03:58:42,100 --> 03:58:44,100
on the line

7817
03:58:44,100 --> 03:58:47,100
for people who did not arrive

7818
03:58:47,100 --> 03:58:49,100
by car.

7819
03:58:49,100 --> 03:58:50,100
The highest ridership

7820
03:58:50,100 --> 03:58:51,100
from people walking

7821
03:58:51,100 --> 03:58:52,100
from their homes in

7822
03:58:52,100 --> 03:58:53,100
Hillsborough and Burlingame and

7823
03:58:53,100 --> 03:58:55,100
their apartments off

7824
03:58:55,100 --> 03:58:58,100
Broadway, we had the highest

7825
03:58:58,100 --> 03:58:59,100
ridership.

7826
03:58:59,100 --> 03:59:02,100
We had the highest ridership.

7827
03:59:02,100 --> 03:59:03,100
Now, of course, as Caltrain cut

7828
03:59:03,100 --> 03:59:04,100
back the service,

7829
03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:05,100
ridership went down, and then

7830
03:59:05,100 --> 03:59:07,100
Caltrain said, gee,

7831
03:59:08,100 --> 03:59:09,100
we're just going

7832
03:59:09,100 --> 03:59:11,100
to make it weekend service,

7833
03:59:11,100 --> 03:59:12,100
because nobody rides the train

7834
03:59:12,100 --> 03:59:13,100
anymore on Broadway.

7835
03:59:13,100 --> 03:59:14,100
Well, they strangled

7836
03:59:14,100 --> 03:59:17,100
Broadway, and we're still a

7837
03:59:19,100 --> 03:59:21,100
transit village.

7838
03:59:22,100 --> 03:59:24,100
I mean, we are a bullseye built

7839
03:59:24,100 --> 03:59:27,100
around our train station back

7840
03:59:27,100 --> 03:59:28,100
before the age of automobile,

7841
03:59:28,100 --> 03:59:30,100
and we are heading towards a

7842
03:59:30,100 --> 03:59:32,100
future where we want to have

7843
03:59:32,100 --> 03:59:34,401
automobiles be an option,

7844
03:59:35,100 --> 03:59:37,100
not a necessity.

7845
03:59:37,100 --> 03:59:39,100
And in order to do that,

7846
03:59:39,100 --> 03:59:40,100
we have to be able to walk

7847
03:59:40,100 --> 03:59:41,100
to our station.

7848
03:59:41,100 --> 03:59:42,100
Now, people have said

7849
03:59:42,100 --> 03:59:44,100
in the past, gee, you know,

7850
03:59:44,100 --> 03:59:46,100
we don't need Broadway, because

7851
03:59:46,100 --> 03:59:48,100
you've got the Millbrae

7852
03:59:48,100 --> 03:59:50,100
Internodal Station

7853
03:59:51,100 --> 03:59:52,100
to the north, and you've got

7854
03:59:52,100 --> 03:59:54,100
Burlingame Avenue

7855
03:59:54,100 --> 03:59:55,100
to the south.

7856
03:59:55,100 --> 03:59:57,100
Well, you know what?

7857
03:59:57,100 --> 04:00:00,100
On a rainy March morning,

7858
04:00:00,100 --> 04:00:01,100
you don't want to go to

7859
04:00:01,100 --> 04:00:04,100
a hike to work seven blocks one

7860
04:00:04,100 --> 04:00:05,100
way or another when you can

7861
04:00:05,100 --> 04:00:08,100
just go to Broadway and hop a

7862
04:00:08,100 --> 04:00:11,100
train as most of my father's

7863
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:14,100
friends did throughout the 30s,

7864
04:00:17,100 --> 04:00:20,100
40s, 50s, 60s, up until pretty

7865
04:00:20,100 --> 04:00:22,100
much the train was cut back

7866
04:00:22,100 --> 04:00:24,100
in the 90s.

7867
04:00:24,100 --> 04:00:26,100
So even though people don't

7868
04:00:26,100 --> 04:00:29,100
like the idea of having a

7869
04:00:29,100 --> 04:00:31,100
Prancet protocol shoved

7870
04:00:31,100 --> 04:00:33,100
down their throat

7871
04:00:33,100 --> 04:00:36,100
with minimal parking and all,

7872
04:00:37,100 --> 04:00:40,100
everybody I've spoken to on

7873
04:00:40,100 --> 04:00:42,100
Broadway, the merchants,

7874
04:00:42,100 --> 04:00:43,100
the business community and the

7875
04:00:43,100 --> 04:00:46,100
Chamber of Commerce, my tenants

7876
04:00:47,100 --> 04:00:48,100
that walk

7877
04:00:48,100 --> 04:00:50,100
in the door and sign a lease

7878
04:00:50,100 --> 04:00:52,100
in Burlingame want

7879
04:00:52,100 --> 04:00:54,100
to have that station.

7880
04:00:54,100 --> 04:00:57,100
And I think a grade separation

7881
04:00:57,100 --> 04:00:58,100
at some point is inevitable,

7882
04:00:58,100 --> 04:01:01,100
but if we don't have a

7883
04:01:01,100 --> 04:01:03,401
functioning station there now

7884
04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:06,100
and most especially

7885
04:01:06,100 --> 04:01:08,100
at the time of construction,

7886
04:01:08,100 --> 04:01:09,100
it's not going to happen.

7887
04:01:09,100 --> 04:01:12,100
So I'm going to recommend that

7888
04:01:12,100 --> 04:01:14,100
we keep our station open and

7889
04:01:14,100 --> 04:01:17,100
that we expand the service.

7890
04:01:18,100 --> 04:01:20,401
If that creates problems,

7891
04:01:22,100 --> 04:01:24,100
I think that they're easier to

7892
04:01:24,100 --> 04:01:26,100
surmount than the financial

7893
04:01:26,100 --> 04:01:28,100
problems we're discussing right

7894
04:01:28,100 --> 04:01:30,100
now.

7895
04:01:30,100 --> 04:01:32,100
And we can have people walk

7896
04:01:32,100 --> 04:01:34,100
to their train.

7897
04:01:35,100 --> 04:01:36,100
The cool thing about the

7898
04:01:36,100 --> 04:01:38,100
electric trains is they

7899
04:01:38,100 --> 04:01:40,100
accelerate and decelerate much

7900
04:01:40,100 --> 04:01:42,100
faster than the diesel electric

7901
04:01:42,100 --> 04:01:44,100
ones,

7902
04:01:44,100 --> 04:01:45,100
which means we can make up some

7903
04:01:45,100 --> 04:01:46,100
of that time.

7904
04:01:46,100 --> 04:01:48,100
So yes, even though having a

7905
04:01:48,100 --> 04:01:50,401
functional flat station on

7906
04:01:51,100 --> 04:01:53,401
Broadway will delay things,

7907
04:01:54,100 --> 04:01:56,401
we'll make it up

7908
04:01:58,100 --> 04:01:59,100
in the acceleration

7909
04:01:59,100 --> 04:02:00,100
over the long run

7910
04:02:00,100 --> 04:02:02,100
of the design.

7911
04:02:04,100 --> 04:02:07,601
And this is a great opportunity

7912
04:02:09,100 --> 04:02:11,100
to really utilize our mass

7913
04:02:11,100 --> 04:02:13,100
transit, whether it's on a

7914
04:02:13,100 --> 04:02:15,100
single level that we can afford

7915
04:02:15,100 --> 04:02:17,100
now or ultimately, hopefully,

7916
04:02:17,100 --> 04:02:19,401
on a raised level.

7917
04:02:20,100 --> 04:02:22,100
But either way, I think all

7918
04:02:22,100 --> 04:02:24,100
of the communities,

7919
04:02:24,100 --> 04:02:25,100
and most especially us on

7920
04:02:25,100 --> 04:02:27,401
Broadway, should enforce and

7921
04:02:28,100 --> 04:02:30,401
foster having a transit

7922
04:02:32,100 --> 04:02:33,100
village.

7923
04:02:33,100 --> 04:02:35,100
That is the wave of the future.

7924
04:02:35,100 --> 04:02:37,100
I mean, we've all traveled to

7925
04:02:37,100 --> 04:02:38,100
Europe and we all know it

7926
04:02:38,100 --> 04:02:39,100
works.

7927
04:02:39,100 --> 04:02:41,100
And it can work for us.

7928
04:02:41,100 --> 04:02:42,100
And it can even work for us

7929
04:02:42,100 --> 04:02:44,100
without a grade separation

7930
04:02:44,100 --> 04:02:47,100
for now, especially with that

7931
04:02:47,100 --> 04:02:48,100
new fangled safety arrangement

7932
04:02:48,100 --> 04:02:49,100
you've got there.

7933
04:02:49,100 --> 04:02:51,100
So I say,

7934
04:02:53,100 --> 04:02:55,100
let's open the station.

7935
04:02:55,100 --> 04:02:57,100
Let's use the advanced safety

7936
04:02:57,100 --> 04:02:59,100
techniques.

7937
04:02:59,100 --> 04:03:00,100
And let's build a grade

7938
04:03:00,100 --> 04:03:01,100
separation when we can afford

7939
04:03:01,100 --> 04:03:03,100
it.

7940
04:03:03,100 --> 04:03:06,100
And in the meantime, it'll all

7941
04:03:06,100 --> 04:03:08,100
work out.

7942
04:03:10,100 --> 04:03:11,100
Thank you for your

7943
04:03:11,100 --> 04:03:13,100
consideration.

7944
04:03:13,100 --> 04:03:15,100
Thank you, Ross.

7945
04:03:16,100 --> 04:03:18,100
Good thought.

7946
04:03:19,100 --> 04:03:21,100
So we do need to give

7947
04:03:21,100 --> 04:03:23,100
direction.

7948
04:03:25,100 --> 04:03:26,100
I think we maybe need to

7949
04:03:26,100 --> 04:03:28,100
revisit where everybody is just

7950
04:03:28,100 --> 04:03:30,100
to opine on direction

7951
04:03:30,100 --> 04:03:33,601
for staff and for next steps.

7952
04:03:35,100 --> 04:03:37,100
I think the question is,

7953
04:03:37,100 --> 04:03:39,100
do we have a project?

7954
04:03:39,100 --> 04:03:41,100
Which option, if therefore?

7955
04:03:41,100 --> 04:03:43,100
And additional steps

7956
04:03:43,100 --> 04:03:45,401
on near-term funding scrutiny.

7957
04:03:48,100 --> 04:03:49,100
Question?

7958
04:03:49,100 --> 04:03:50,100
Go ahead.

7959
04:03:50,100 --> 04:03:51,100
This is a question for

7960
04:03:51,100 --> 04:03:52,100
Netta.

7961
04:03:52,100 --> 04:03:54,401
Netta, do you mind?

7962
04:04:03,100 --> 04:04:05,100
So you've been conducting some

7963
04:04:05,100 --> 04:04:07,100
public meetings around a

7964
04:04:07,100 --> 04:04:09,100
transit-oriented development

7965
04:04:09,100 --> 04:04:10,100
through the Broadway-specific

7966
04:04:10,100 --> 04:04:12,100
plan.

7967
04:04:12,100 --> 04:04:13,100
Can you tell me a little bit

7968
04:04:13,100 --> 04:04:16,100
about the feedback on those?

7969
04:04:16,100 --> 04:04:18,100
Yeah, through the workshops and

7970
04:04:18,100 --> 04:04:19,100
the pop-ups,

7971
04:04:19,100 --> 04:04:20,100
we've been conducting

7972
04:04:20,100 --> 04:04:22,100
about the Broadway-specific

7973
04:04:23,100 --> 04:04:25,100
plan, which encompasses

7974
04:04:25,100 --> 04:04:27,100
intensifying development based

7975
04:04:27,100 --> 04:04:28,100
on the TOC policies

7976
04:04:28,100 --> 04:04:30,100
to streetscape, to murals,

7977
04:04:30,100 --> 04:04:32,100
to activating.

7978
04:04:33,100 --> 04:04:35,100
The general consensus is that

7979
04:04:35,100 --> 04:04:37,100
the residents and even the

7980
04:04:37,100 --> 04:04:39,100
businesses around Broadway

7981
04:04:39,100 --> 04:04:40,100
within the specific plan area

7982
04:04:40,100 --> 04:04:42,100
would like things

7983
04:04:42,100 --> 04:04:43,100
to remain the same.

7984
04:04:43,100 --> 04:04:45,100
So they don't want parking

7985
04:04:45,100 --> 04:04:46,100
changes,

7986
04:04:46,100 --> 04:04:48,100
they don't want development

7987
04:04:48,100 --> 04:04:50,100
to occur, they don't want wider

7988
04:04:50,100 --> 04:04:51,100
sidewalks.

7989
04:04:51,100 --> 04:04:53,100
They're generally happy

7990
04:04:53,100 --> 04:04:54,100
with the way that they are.

7991
04:04:54,100 --> 04:04:56,100
If we continue to have a

7992
04:04:56,100 --> 04:04:58,100
station operating there,

7993
04:04:59,100 --> 04:05:02,100
how does that work together?

7994
04:05:04,100 --> 04:05:06,100
Generally, the state laws and

7995
04:05:06,100 --> 04:05:09,100
MTC's TOC policies that they

7996
04:05:09,100 --> 04:05:12,100
are asking cities to adopt

7997
04:05:12,100 --> 04:05:14,401
would require the existing

7998
04:05:16,100 --> 04:05:18,100
zoning that's in place to be

7999
04:05:18,100 --> 04:05:20,100
intensified and the FAR that

8000
04:05:20,100 --> 04:05:22,100
manages the commercial

8001
04:05:23,100 --> 04:05:25,100
densities

8002
04:05:25,100 --> 04:05:26,100
to also be intensified, and

8003
04:05:26,100 --> 04:05:28,100
then they have parameters

8004
04:05:28,100 --> 04:05:29,100
related to parking where they

8005
04:05:29,100 --> 04:05:31,100
are requiring not only parking

8006
04:05:31,100 --> 04:05:33,401
minimums but parking maximums

8007
04:05:34,100 --> 04:05:36,100
around their stations.

8008
04:05:37,100 --> 04:05:40,601
So if the station stays open,

8009
04:05:41,100 --> 04:05:44,100
it is virtually impossible due

8010
04:05:44,100 --> 04:05:46,100
to state zoning for it to,

8011
04:05:46,100 --> 04:05:49,100
I mean we would have

8012
04:05:49,100 --> 04:05:52,100
to finish the TOD plan.

8013
04:05:52,100 --> 04:05:55,100
How do those, can you, let's

8014
04:05:55,100 --> 04:05:56,100
just say the station stays as

8015
04:05:56,100 --> 04:05:58,100
it is, you know, frankly I

8016
04:05:58,100 --> 04:05:59,100
don't think we're ever going

8017
04:05:59,100 --> 04:06:00,100
to be able

8018
04:06:00,100 --> 04:06:01,100
to raise a billion dollars to

8019
04:06:01,100 --> 04:06:03,100
build an overpass and a station

8020
04:06:03,100 --> 04:06:04,100
and whatever.

8021
04:06:04,100 --> 04:06:07,100
And I would welcome anyone who

8022
04:06:07,100 --> 04:06:08,100
would be willing to take

8023
04:06:08,100 --> 04:06:10,100
on the $2,500 per parcel parcel

8024
04:06:10,100 --> 04:06:13,100
tax that that's going to

8025
04:06:13,100 --> 04:06:14,100
require because that would be

8026
04:06:14,100 --> 04:06:17,100
what it would cost everyone.

8027
04:06:18,100 --> 04:06:21,100
So if the station stayed open

8028
04:06:21,100 --> 04:06:23,100
as it is right now, you know,

8029
04:06:23,100 --> 04:06:25,100
and we requested it to be open

8030
04:06:25,100 --> 04:06:27,100
five days a week so people

8031
04:06:27,100 --> 04:06:29,401
could use the train,

8032
04:06:30,100 --> 04:06:32,100
by law are we then mandated

8033
04:06:32,100 --> 04:06:34,100
to proceed

8034
04:06:34,100 --> 04:06:36,100
with the state requirements for

8035
04:06:36,100 --> 04:06:38,100
densification and parking

8036
04:06:39,100 --> 04:06:40,100
changes, et cetera,

8037
04:06:40,100 --> 04:06:41,100
et cetera?

8038
04:06:41,100 --> 04:06:44,100
So MTC's TOC policies are

8039
04:06:45,100 --> 04:06:46,100
voluntary for cities.

8040
04:06:46,100 --> 04:06:47,100
They don't have

8041
04:06:47,100 --> 04:06:48,100
to adopt them.

8042
04:06:48,100 --> 04:06:51,100
However, MTC has tied it

8043
04:06:51,100 --> 04:06:53,100
to their OBAG funding.

8044
04:06:53,100 --> 04:06:55,100
So whether we view that as a

8045
04:06:55,100 --> 04:06:56,100
characteristic,

8046
04:06:56,100 --> 04:06:58,100
they're saying you don't have

8047
04:06:58,100 --> 04:07:00,100
to do these cities,

8048
04:07:00,100 --> 04:07:01,100
you can voluntarily comply,

8049
04:07:01,100 --> 04:07:04,100
however, the scale in which we

8050
04:07:04,100 --> 04:07:06,100
are allocating our funding

8051
04:07:06,100 --> 04:07:08,100
under OBAG is tied

8052
04:07:08,100 --> 04:07:10,100
to cities that are complying.

8053
04:07:10,100 --> 04:07:12,100
So you don't have to do it,

8054
04:07:12,100 --> 04:07:14,100
but then a city would be

8055
04:07:14,100 --> 04:07:16,100
subject to not potentially

8056
04:07:16,100 --> 04:07:18,100
being competitive to receive

8057
04:07:18,100 --> 04:07:21,100
funding that we receive, that

8058
04:07:21,100 --> 04:07:22,100
Syed and his team use for

8059
04:07:22,100 --> 04:07:24,100
transportation improvements.

8060
04:07:28,100 --> 04:07:30,100
I have a question related

8061
04:07:30,100 --> 04:07:31,100
to that actually.

8062
04:07:31,100 --> 04:07:32,100
So that would be something that

8063
04:07:32,100 --> 04:07:34,100
we would have to comply with,

8064
04:07:34,100 --> 04:07:36,100
but I mean,

8065
04:07:36,100 --> 04:07:37,100
those property owners would

8066
04:07:37,100 --> 04:07:38,100
still, like those properties

8067
04:07:38,100 --> 04:07:39,100
would still have

8068
04:07:39,100 --> 04:07:41,401
to be developed privately.

8069
04:07:42,100 --> 04:07:43,100
So it's not as if we could come

8070
04:07:43,100 --> 04:07:46,100
in and mandate that the housing

8071
04:07:46,100 --> 04:07:48,100
be built there.

8072
04:07:48,100 --> 04:07:49,100
It would still be just an

8073
04:07:49,100 --> 04:07:50,100
option,

8074
04:07:50,100 --> 04:07:51,100
now a more dense option.

8075
04:07:51,100 --> 04:07:52,100
Correct.

8076
04:07:52,100 --> 04:07:54,100
The developer wanted to come

8077
04:07:54,100 --> 04:07:55,100
in and do so.

8078
04:07:55,100 --> 04:07:56,100
Yeah.

8079
04:07:56,100 --> 04:07:57,100
The policies are just in terms

8080
04:07:57,100 --> 04:07:59,100
of the city changing its

8081
04:07:59,100 --> 04:08:01,100
regulatory framework.

8082
04:08:01,100 --> 04:08:03,100
We then don't have, besides our

8083
04:08:03,100 --> 04:08:05,100
city-owned properties that we

8084
04:08:05,100 --> 04:08:06,100
do have there, there are

8085
04:08:06,100 --> 04:08:08,100
several parking lots.

8086
04:08:09,100 --> 04:08:10,100
It would be incumbent

8087
04:08:10,100 --> 04:08:12,100
on private property owners

8088
04:08:12,100 --> 04:08:13,100
to want

8089
04:08:13,100 --> 04:08:14,100
to then redevelop those sites,

8090
04:08:14,100 --> 04:08:15,100
which the city does not have

8091
04:08:15,100 --> 04:08:17,100
control over.

8092
04:08:20,100 --> 04:08:22,100
Sorry, go ahead, Andrew.

8093
04:08:22,100 --> 04:08:23,100
Yes, Council Member Pappajohn.

8094
04:08:23,100 --> 04:08:25,401
Yes, thank you, Mayor.

8095
04:08:26,100 --> 04:08:29,100
I actually have a question,

8096
04:08:29,100 --> 04:08:31,100
or maybe I should ask Vice

8097
04:08:31,100 --> 04:08:33,100
Mayor if he had a question

8098
04:08:33,100 --> 04:08:35,401
for the city development,

8099
04:08:36,100 --> 04:08:37,100
because I have a question for

8100
04:08:37,100 --> 04:08:38,100
Caltrain.

8101
04:08:38,100 --> 04:08:39,100
No, I'm, no, thank you.

8102
04:08:39,100 --> 04:08:41,100
Okay, thank you.

8103
04:08:41,100 --> 04:08:42,100
Thank you.

8104
04:08:42,100 --> 04:08:44,100
Yes, please.

8105
04:08:44,100 --> 04:08:46,100
I'd like to request that

8106
04:08:46,100 --> 04:08:47,100
Caltrain put a dedicated

8107
04:08:47,100 --> 04:08:48,100
shuttle at the station.

8108
04:08:48,100 --> 04:08:51,100
At least then there would be

8109
04:08:51,100 --> 04:08:53,100
transportation

8110
04:08:54,100 --> 04:08:56,100
to the other train stations.

8111
04:08:56,100 --> 04:08:58,100
Would that be something

8112
04:08:58,100 --> 04:09:00,100
possible?

8113
04:09:01,100 --> 04:09:02,100
I would have to talk

8114
04:09:02,100 --> 04:09:03,100
to the operations side

8115
04:09:03,100 --> 04:09:05,100
of the house on that,

8116
04:09:05,100 --> 04:09:06,100
but happy

8117
04:09:06,100 --> 04:09:07,100
to take that request back to

8118
04:09:07,100 --> 04:09:09,100
Caltrain.

8119
04:09:09,100 --> 04:09:10,100
I know there's a shuttle that

8120
04:09:10,100 --> 04:09:12,100
works there today, I believe,

8121
04:09:12,100 --> 04:09:13,100
during the weekdays,

8122
04:09:13,100 --> 04:09:15,100
makes that shuttle.

8123
04:09:15,100 --> 04:09:16,100
Right, but I mean, at least

8124
04:09:16,100 --> 04:09:17,100
then there's public

8125
04:09:17,100 --> 04:09:19,100
transportation for that on

8126
04:09:19,100 --> 04:09:21,100
Broadway, and they could get,

8127
04:09:21,100 --> 04:09:23,100
you know.

8128
04:09:23,100 --> 04:09:24,100
I think there is a shuttle,

8129
04:09:24,100 --> 04:09:25,100
right?

8130
04:09:25,100 --> 04:09:26,100
Yeah, there is a shuttle.

8131
04:09:26,100 --> 04:09:28,100
There's an existing shuttle.

8132
04:09:28,100 --> 04:09:29,100
There's a shuttle currently.

8133
04:09:29,100 --> 04:09:30,100
Yeah.

8134
04:09:30,100 --> 04:09:31,100
There's seven days a week.

8135
04:09:31,100 --> 04:09:32,100
There's a shuttle.

8136
04:09:32,100 --> 04:09:33,100
Okay.

8137
04:09:33,100 --> 04:09:34,100
So, I would ask that then

8138
04:09:34,100 --> 04:09:35,100
Caltrain could help pay

8139
04:09:35,100 --> 04:09:36,100
for that.

8140
04:09:36,100 --> 04:09:37,100
Yeah, I was going to address a

8141
04:09:37,100 --> 04:09:38,100
number of questions earlier,

8142
04:09:38,100 --> 04:09:39,100
but yes, there is a shuttle

8143
04:09:39,100 --> 04:09:40,100
currently operates

8144
04:09:40,100 --> 04:09:42,100
during the weekdays,

8145
04:09:42,100 --> 04:09:43,100
morning and evening commute

8146
04:09:43,100 --> 04:09:45,401
hours, takes the folks

8147
04:09:47,100 --> 04:09:49,100
from the Broadway's train

8148
04:09:49,100 --> 04:09:51,100
station parking lot to the

8149
04:09:51,100 --> 04:09:53,100
Millbury train station,

8150
04:09:53,100 --> 04:09:54,100
and makes several trips

8151
04:09:54,100 --> 04:09:55,100
in the morning and

8152
04:09:55,100 --> 04:09:57,100
in the evening as well.

8153
04:09:57,100 --> 04:09:58,100
That can be requested of

8154
04:09:58,100 --> 04:10:00,100
Caltrain to maintain that in

8155
04:10:00,100 --> 04:10:02,100
the event the station does not

8156
04:10:02,100 --> 04:10:04,401
exist in the future.

8157
04:10:05,100 --> 04:10:06,100
I wanted to clarify a couple

8158
04:10:06,100 --> 04:10:09,100
of things that we are speaking

8159
04:10:09,100 --> 04:10:10,100
of the options,

8160
04:10:10,100 --> 04:10:11,100
the four options

8161
04:10:11,100 --> 04:10:13,100
in the context of the grade

8162
04:10:13,100 --> 04:10:14,100
separation project,

8163
04:10:14,100 --> 04:10:15,100
not outside of the station as

8164
04:10:15,100 --> 04:10:17,100
it currently sits.

8165
04:10:19,100 --> 04:10:20,100
It's only,

8166
04:10:20,100 --> 04:10:22,100
it's the service can be there

8167
04:10:22,100 --> 04:10:24,100
until as long as it needs to be

8168
04:10:24,100 --> 04:10:26,100
there or as the council

8169
04:10:26,100 --> 04:10:28,100
decides.

8170
04:10:28,100 --> 04:10:29,100
So, currently, the weekday

8171
04:10:29,100 --> 04:10:30,100
service is suspended only and

8172
04:10:30,100 --> 04:10:32,100
the shuttle operates and the

8173
04:10:32,100 --> 04:10:33,100
weekend service continues.

8174
04:10:33,100 --> 04:10:36,100
Now, one of the challenges,

8175
04:10:37,100 --> 04:10:39,100
suppose if the grade separation

8176
04:10:39,100 --> 04:10:42,100
project does not happen and we

8177
04:10:42,100 --> 04:10:44,100
ask Caltrain

8178
04:10:44,100 --> 04:10:46,100
to have the train stop in the

8179
04:10:46,100 --> 04:10:48,100
morning and evening hours

8180
04:10:48,100 --> 04:10:50,100
regularly as it used

8181
04:10:50,100 --> 04:10:51,100
to happen before.

8182
04:10:51,100 --> 04:10:53,100
The challenge is that the

8183
04:10:53,100 --> 04:10:54,100
current, the platform where it

8184
04:10:54,100 --> 04:10:56,100
is located is right next

8185
04:10:56,100 --> 04:10:58,401
to the Broadway crossing.

8186
04:10:59,100 --> 04:11:00,100
So the train will stop

8187
04:11:00,100 --> 04:11:02,100
in the middle of the crossing

8188
04:11:02,100 --> 04:11:04,100
and so the traffic will come

8189
04:11:04,100 --> 04:11:06,100
to fill.

8190
04:11:06,100 --> 04:11:08,100
Grinding halt.

8191
04:11:08,100 --> 04:11:09,100
Yeah, exactly.

8192
04:11:09,100 --> 04:11:10,100
Grinding halt and more so than

8193
04:11:10,100 --> 04:11:12,100
it currently happens, which

8194
04:11:12,100 --> 04:11:13,100
will further exacerbate the

8195
04:11:13,100 --> 04:11:15,100
traffic conditions.

8196
04:11:15,100 --> 04:11:17,100
So, unless the station is moved

8197
04:11:17,100 --> 04:11:20,100
away from that location further

8198
04:11:20,100 --> 04:11:21,100
south, further north.

8199
04:11:21,100 --> 04:11:23,100
So those are some

8200
04:11:23,100 --> 04:11:24,100
of the intricacies that we need

8201
04:11:24,100 --> 04:11:26,100
to be aware of.

8202
04:11:26,100 --> 04:11:28,100
Yeah, can I ask, sorry, just

8203
04:11:28,100 --> 04:11:30,401
before again we decide 1, 2,

8204
04:11:31,100 --> 04:11:35,100
3, 4, so first of all I have to

8205
04:11:35,100 --> 04:11:38,100
say I have a very strong sense

8206
04:11:38,100 --> 04:11:39,100
of fool me once, shame

8207
04:11:39,100 --> 04:11:40,100
on you, fool me twice, shame

8208
04:11:40,100 --> 04:11:42,100
on me.

8209
04:11:42,100 --> 04:11:43,100
So I'm just dealing

8210
04:11:43,100 --> 04:11:45,100
with that.

8211
04:11:45,100 --> 04:11:47,100
But if we, whatever we select

8212
04:11:47,100 --> 04:11:50,100
as a potential option, are we

8213
04:11:50,100 --> 04:11:52,100
making any financial commitment

8214
04:11:52,100 --> 04:11:54,100
in so doing?

8215
04:11:54,100 --> 04:11:57,100
Yes, that's a question that

8216
04:11:57,100 --> 04:11:59,100
we'll need

8217
04:11:59,100 --> 04:12:01,100
to answer that question.

8218
04:12:01,100 --> 04:12:03,100
So for example, typically $20

8219
04:12:03,100 --> 04:12:05,100
million is what is being

8220
04:12:05,100 --> 04:12:06,100
requested or what is being

8221
04:12:06,100 --> 04:12:08,100
projected this time.

8222
04:12:08,100 --> 04:12:10,100
And based

8223
04:12:10,100 --> 04:12:12,100
on earlier discussion today

8224
04:12:12,100 --> 04:12:13,100
with the City Council

8225
04:12:13,100 --> 04:12:15,100
subcommittee, CalTrain was

8226
04:12:15,100 --> 04:12:16,100
directed

8227
04:12:16,100 --> 04:12:17,100
to lower that number,

8228
04:12:17,100 --> 04:12:18,100
go back and lower that number.

8229
04:12:18,100 --> 04:12:20,100
And when they come back

8230
04:12:20,100 --> 04:12:21,100
with that lowered number,

8231
04:12:21,100 --> 04:12:24,100
which we hope, then we

8232
04:12:24,100 --> 04:12:26,100
typically, then we need

8233
04:12:26,100 --> 04:12:28,100
to go ask for funding at the

8234
04:12:28,100 --> 04:12:30,100
Transportation Authority.

8235
04:12:30,100 --> 04:12:32,100
And they're just as much

8236
04:12:32,100 --> 04:12:33,100
concerned as we are concerned

8237
04:12:33,100 --> 04:12:34,100
about the cost.

8238
04:12:34,100 --> 04:12:36,100
They've spent $26 million on

8239
04:12:36,100 --> 04:12:37,100
this project and there's

8240
04:12:37,100 --> 04:12:38,100
nothing to show for it.

8241
04:12:38,100 --> 04:12:40,100
So they're concerned

8242
04:12:40,100 --> 04:12:41,100
about spending more money.

8243
04:12:41,100 --> 04:12:44,100
And typically the formula is

8244
04:12:45,100 --> 04:12:46,100
that City pays 10% and

8245
04:12:46,100 --> 04:12:48,100
Transportation Authority pays

8246
04:12:49,100 --> 04:12:50,100
90%.

8247
04:12:50,100 --> 04:12:53,100
So that's the share of funding

8248
04:12:53,100 --> 04:12:54,100
so far.

8249
04:12:54,100 --> 04:12:56,100
And they can, by their policy,

8250
04:12:56,100 --> 04:12:59,100
they can fund up to 50%

8251
04:12:59,100 --> 04:13:01,100
of the overall project cost.

8252
04:13:01,100 --> 04:13:02,100
But

8253
04:13:02,100 --> 04:13:03,100
in this particular project, if

8254
04:13:03,100 --> 04:13:06,100
they spend every penny they

8255
04:13:07,100 --> 04:13:08,100
have in this bucket,

8256
04:13:08,100 --> 04:13:11,100
it's still short of over $200

8257
04:13:11,100 --> 04:13:13,100
million.

8258
04:13:14,100 --> 04:13:16,100
So what is the financial

8259
04:13:16,100 --> 04:13:17,100
commitment we're making if we

8260
04:13:17,100 --> 04:13:19,100
say we want to pursue option

8261
04:13:19,100 --> 04:13:21,100
three or four or whatever?

8262
04:13:21,100 --> 04:13:23,100
We don't know the answer.

8263
04:13:23,100 --> 04:13:24,100
We're committing ourselves

8264
04:13:24,100 --> 04:13:26,100
though to a meaningful number

8265
04:13:26,100 --> 04:13:28,100
and the TA would be putting in

8266
04:13:28,100 --> 04:13:30,100
an even more meaningful number.

8267
04:13:30,100 --> 04:13:32,401
Based on today's discussion,

8268
04:13:34,100 --> 04:13:35,100
we could be looking at $2

8269
04:13:35,100 --> 04:13:37,100
million based on the numbers

8270
04:13:37,100 --> 04:13:39,100
that are presented today.

8271
04:13:39,100 --> 04:13:40,100
That would be 10% of $20

8272
04:13:40,100 --> 04:13:42,100
million.

8273
04:13:42,100 --> 04:13:44,100
Again, we haven't gone to the

8274
04:13:44,100 --> 04:13:46,100
Transportation Authority, we

8275
04:13:46,100 --> 04:13:47,100
haven't asked them.

8276
04:13:47,100 --> 04:13:49,100
So they may not agree

8277
04:13:49,100 --> 04:13:51,401
to that and all

8278
04:13:52,100 --> 04:13:54,100
of that will...

8279
04:13:54,100 --> 04:13:55,100
So then this would have

8280
04:13:55,100 --> 04:13:57,100
to come back to Council either

8281
04:13:57,100 --> 04:13:59,100
later in March or in early

8282
04:13:59,100 --> 04:14:01,100
April with more refined numbers

8283
04:14:01,100 --> 04:14:02,100
and then a vote

8284
04:14:02,100 --> 04:14:03,100
for commitment.

8285
04:14:03,100 --> 04:14:04,100
Definitely.

8286
04:14:04,100 --> 04:14:05,100
So tonight the Council is not

8287
04:14:05,100 --> 04:14:08,100
making a commitment on the cost

8288
04:14:08,100 --> 04:14:10,100
yet and tonight is which

8289
04:14:10,100 --> 04:14:12,100
option.

8290
04:14:12,100 --> 04:14:14,100
And then based on that,

8291
04:14:14,100 --> 04:14:15,100
this will be presented to the

8292
04:14:15,100 --> 04:14:16,100
Transportation Authority and

8293
04:14:16,100 --> 04:14:18,100
then there will be a cost

8294
04:14:18,100 --> 04:14:20,401
revision on the engineering,

8295
04:14:21,100 --> 04:14:22,100
65% engineering,

8296
04:14:22,100 --> 04:14:24,100
then we'll come to Council and

8297
04:14:24,100 --> 04:14:26,100
then ask Council direction on

8298
04:14:26,100 --> 04:14:28,100
that and then we'll then take

8299
04:14:28,100 --> 04:14:29,100
next steps with the

8300
04:14:29,100 --> 04:14:31,100
Transportation Authority.

8301
04:14:32,100 --> 04:14:34,100
So with that in mind,

8302
04:14:34,100 --> 04:14:36,100
I'll just move to the direction

8303
04:14:36,100 --> 04:14:37,100
I think you want to take us,

8304
04:14:37,100 --> 04:14:38,100
Mr.

8305
04:14:38,100 --> 04:14:40,100
Mayor, which is from my point

8306
04:14:40,100 --> 04:14:42,100
of view, given that we're not

8307
04:14:42,100 --> 04:14:44,100
making a financial commitment,

8308
04:14:44,100 --> 04:14:46,100
I feel that option three, which

8309
04:14:46,100 --> 04:14:47,100
is the one where you don't

8310
04:14:47,100 --> 04:14:48,100
build the station

8311
04:14:48,100 --> 04:14:50,100
but you have the option

8312
04:14:50,100 --> 04:14:51,100
in the future

8313
04:14:51,100 --> 04:14:53,100
to build a station, right,

8314
04:14:53,100 --> 04:14:56,601
would be the path I would

8315
04:14:58,100 --> 04:15:00,100
suggest following.

8316
04:15:00,100 --> 04:15:01,100
I remain...

8317
04:15:01,100 --> 04:15:02,100
I mean, when this comes back

8318
04:15:02,100 --> 04:15:04,401
in terms of funding,

8319
04:15:05,100 --> 04:15:06,100
I think you have

8320
04:15:06,100 --> 04:15:07,100
to believe there's a way to

8321
04:15:07,100 --> 04:15:08,100
find the gap and if you don't,

8322
04:15:08,100 --> 04:15:09,100
then it's to me irresponsible

8323
04:15:09,100 --> 04:15:11,100
to keep spending money.

8324
04:15:11,100 --> 04:15:14,100
But if you ask me which one

8325
04:15:14,100 --> 04:15:15,100
would I prefer to build, I

8326
04:15:15,100 --> 04:15:16,100
agree that obviously the

8327
04:15:16,100 --> 04:15:18,100
cheapest is the best,

8328
04:15:18,100 --> 04:15:20,100
but I kind of feel

8329
04:15:20,100 --> 04:15:21,100
like we're made to negotiate

8330
04:15:21,100 --> 04:15:23,100
against ourselves, you know?

8331
04:15:23,100 --> 04:15:24,100
How much more will you give?

8332
04:15:24,100 --> 04:15:25,100
How much more will you give?

8333
04:15:25,100 --> 04:15:28,100
And you know, anyway, so I

8334
04:15:28,100 --> 04:15:29,100
think maintaining the

8335
04:15:29,100 --> 04:15:30,100
optionality

8336
04:15:30,100 --> 04:15:32,100
of having a station

8337
04:15:32,100 --> 04:15:35,100
at this point feels worth it to

8338
04:15:35,100 --> 04:15:36,100
me.

8339
04:15:36,100 --> 04:15:38,100
I have a...

8340
04:15:38,100 --> 04:15:39,100
I appreciate that perspective.

8341
04:15:39,100 --> 04:15:40,100
I have a question,

8342
04:15:40,100 --> 04:15:41,100
I think maybe for Robert,

8343
04:15:41,100 --> 04:15:43,100
but also for Sayed.

8344
04:15:43,100 --> 04:15:45,100
The material difference

8345
04:15:45,100 --> 04:15:48,100
between option three and four,

8346
04:15:48,100 --> 04:15:51,100
it's not so simple as three

8347
04:15:51,100 --> 04:15:53,100
gives us, you know,

8348
04:15:53,100 --> 04:15:54,100
gives us an option

8349
04:15:54,100 --> 04:15:55,100
to add a station.

8350
04:15:55,100 --> 04:15:57,100
There's material work that has

8351
04:15:57,100 --> 04:15:58,100
to be in scope even in the

8352
04:15:58,100 --> 04:16:00,100
initial phase and you could

8353
04:16:00,100 --> 04:16:01,100
decide 10 years from now

8354
04:16:01,100 --> 04:16:02,100
to add the...

8355
04:16:02,100 --> 04:16:04,100
What is that?

8356
04:16:06,100 --> 04:16:08,100
What makes up that component

8357
04:16:08,100 --> 04:16:10,100
that's roughly, what, $23

8358
04:16:10,100 --> 04:16:12,100
million difference

8359
04:16:12,100 --> 04:16:14,100
between three and four,

8360
04:16:14,100 --> 04:16:15,100
somewhere in there?

8361
04:16:15,100 --> 04:16:17,100
So it is...

8362
04:16:17,100 --> 04:16:19,100
Like you said, a wider station,

8363
04:16:19,100 --> 04:16:21,100
does it preclude, you know,

8364
04:16:21,100 --> 04:16:22,100
having a 2% ramp and a shorter

8365
04:16:22,100 --> 04:16:24,100
car base

8366
04:16:25,100 --> 04:16:26,100
to have that station?

8367
04:16:26,100 --> 04:16:28,100
So you could imagine

8368
04:16:28,100 --> 04:16:30,100
with option four, you go up,

8369
04:16:30,100 --> 04:16:32,100
cross over the street and go

8370
04:16:32,100 --> 04:16:34,100
back down.

8371
04:16:34,100 --> 04:16:35,100
The other alternative has the

8372
04:16:35,100 --> 04:16:37,100
space

8373
04:16:37,100 --> 04:16:38,100
for the seven-car platforms.

8374
04:16:38,100 --> 04:16:40,100
So you're building that

8375
04:16:40,100 --> 04:16:42,401
seven-car platform flat and

8376
04:16:44,100 --> 04:16:45,100
you're also accommodating a

8377
04:16:45,100 --> 04:16:47,100
future

8378
04:16:47,100 --> 04:16:48,100
on each side and reserving

8379
04:16:48,100 --> 04:16:49,100
space

8380
04:16:49,100 --> 04:16:51,100
for a future parking lot.

8381
04:16:51,100 --> 04:16:53,100
With no station, you can go up

8382
04:16:53,100 --> 04:16:54,100
and go back down.

8383
04:16:54,100 --> 04:16:55,100
You don't have that implication

8384
04:16:55,100 --> 04:16:57,100
of the future parking lot and

8385
04:16:57,100 --> 04:16:59,100
it makes the whole footprint

8386
04:16:59,100 --> 04:17:01,100
materially different.

8387
04:17:01,100 --> 04:17:03,401
So there are choices.

8388
04:17:04,100 --> 04:17:05,100
Okay.

8389
04:17:05,100 --> 04:17:06,100
Yeah.

8390
04:17:06,100 --> 04:17:07,100
Question?

8391
04:17:07,100 --> 04:17:08,100
Councilmember?

8392
04:17:08,100 --> 04:17:09,100
So the problem,

8393
04:17:09,100 --> 04:17:11,100
the concern I have with, I

8394
04:17:11,100 --> 04:17:12,100
mean, I think it's going

8395
04:17:12,100 --> 04:17:14,100
to be hard enough to fill $147

8396
04:17:14,100 --> 04:17:15,100
million gap.

8397
04:17:15,100 --> 04:17:16,100
I don't think we can fill 250

8398
04:17:16,100 --> 04:17:17,100
or whatever it's going

8399
04:17:17,100 --> 04:17:19,100
to be because,

8400
04:17:19,100 --> 04:17:21,100
and you saw the escalation.

8401
04:17:21,100 --> 04:17:22,100
So, you know, we're talking

8402
04:17:22,100 --> 04:17:24,100
about you build a grade

8403
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:25,100
separation,

8404
04:17:25,100 --> 04:17:26,100
you potentially build a station

8405
04:17:26,100 --> 04:17:27,100
in the future,

8406
04:17:27,100 --> 04:17:28,100
that station's going

8407
04:17:28,100 --> 04:17:29,100
to be an additional, you know,

8408
04:17:29,100 --> 04:17:30,100
$800 million

8409
04:17:30,100 --> 04:17:31,100
to add on.

8410
04:17:31,100 --> 04:17:32,100
I mean, so then the problem,

8411
04:17:32,100 --> 04:17:34,100
you know, sort of the issue you

8412
04:17:34,100 --> 04:17:36,100
have here is if we direct them

8413
04:17:36,100 --> 04:17:38,401
to build, you know,

8414
04:17:39,100 --> 04:17:41,100
this is a one-time direction.

8415
04:17:41,100 --> 04:17:44,100
We can't say build it, you

8416
04:17:44,100 --> 04:17:45,100
know, with the option

8417
04:17:45,100 --> 04:17:46,100
to put the station in down the

8418
04:17:46,100 --> 04:17:49,601
road and then they design that

8419
04:17:52,100 --> 04:17:53,100
now, that's what we have

8420
04:17:53,100 --> 04:17:55,100
to build.

8421
04:17:56,100 --> 04:17:58,100
Because we can't spend another

8422
04:17:58,100 --> 04:17:59,100
$20 million on another design

8423
04:17:59,100 --> 04:18:00,100
in six months or a year.

8424
04:18:00,100 --> 04:18:01,000
So this is it.

8425
04:18:01,000 --> 04:18:02,100
And while I love, you know,

8426
04:18:02,100 --> 04:18:03,100
keeping the optionality

8427
04:18:03,100 --> 04:18:04,100
of it,

8428
04:18:04,100 --> 04:18:05,100
there is no other city that

8429
04:18:05,100 --> 04:18:07,100
has, I mean, there is a station

8430
04:18:07,100 --> 04:18:09,100
a quarter mile away, you know,

8431
04:18:09,100 --> 04:18:10,100
down in Broadway and there is a

8432
04:18:10,100 --> 04:18:12,100
shuttle that can run.

8433
04:18:12,100 --> 04:18:13,100
I do think we can solve the

8434
04:18:13,100 --> 04:18:15,100
circulation problems.

8435
04:18:15,100 --> 04:18:16,100
People can go to Broadway, they

8436
04:18:16,100 --> 04:18:17,100
can pick up the shuttle,

8437
04:18:17,100 --> 04:18:19,100
they can go to Millbrae or they

8438
04:18:19,100 --> 04:18:20,100
can take a shuttle over

8439
04:18:20,100 --> 04:18:21,100
to the Burlingame, you know,

8440
04:18:21,100 --> 04:18:23,100
Avenue.

8441
04:18:25,100 --> 04:18:26,100
And from the talking

8442
04:18:26,100 --> 04:18:28,100
to people that I have talked

8443
04:18:28,100 --> 04:18:29,100
to in the neighborhood

8444
04:18:29,100 --> 04:18:31,100
at these events and just

8445
04:18:31,100 --> 04:18:32,100
friends of mine that live

8446
04:18:32,100 --> 04:18:33,100
over there,

8447
04:18:33,100 --> 04:18:35,100
the number one thing I've heard

8448
04:18:35,100 --> 04:18:36,100
from them is the traffic is

8449
04:18:36,100 --> 04:18:38,401
unbearable, it's dangerous and

8450
04:18:39,100 --> 04:18:40,100
we need a great separation.

8451
04:18:40,100 --> 04:18:42,100
And for the most part,

8452
04:18:42,100 --> 04:18:44,100
they're willing to give up on

8453
04:18:44,100 --> 04:18:47,100
the station because they know

8454
04:18:47,100 --> 04:18:50,100
they can walk pretty close and

8455
04:18:50,100 --> 04:18:52,401
pretty proximate to get

8456
04:18:53,100 --> 04:18:55,100
to another station.

8457
04:18:55,100 --> 04:18:58,601
And you know, I calculated it,

8458
04:18:59,100 --> 04:19:00,100
right?

8459
04:19:00,100 --> 04:19:01,100
So I looked and said, all

8460
04:19:01,100 --> 04:19:03,100
right, let's just say we have

8461
04:19:03,100 --> 04:19:05,100
a, you know, $150 million

8462
04:19:05,100 --> 04:19:06,100
funding gap and they say

8463
04:19:06,100 --> 04:19:08,100
to us, because this was

8464
04:19:08,100 --> 04:19:09,100
on the table today, well,

8465
04:19:09,100 --> 04:19:10,100
Burlingame, you are going

8466
04:19:10,100 --> 04:19:11,100
to have to figure out where

8467
04:19:11,100 --> 04:19:13,100
to get the $147 million.

8468
04:19:13,100 --> 04:19:14,100
So that would be a parcel tax.

8469
04:19:14,100 --> 04:19:17,100
Our school parcel taxes are

8470
04:19:17,100 --> 04:19:18,100
$250 when interest rates were

8471
04:19:18,100 --> 04:19:21,100
at 3% and 4% and they were

8472
04:19:26,100 --> 04:19:28,100
$250 a parcel.

8473
04:19:28,100 --> 04:19:29,100
So to get to $147 million,

8474
04:19:29,100 --> 04:19:31,100
$150 million, $200 million,

8475
04:19:31,100 --> 04:19:32,100
if you want to be safe,

8476
04:19:32,100 --> 04:19:34,401
we're talking about $1,000 to

8477
04:19:35,100 --> 04:19:36,100
$1,500 per parcel,

8478
04:19:36,100 --> 04:19:38,100
per parcel tax.

8479
04:19:38,100 --> 04:19:39,100
And if the city council puts

8480
04:19:39,100 --> 04:19:41,100
that on the ballot,

8481
04:19:41,100 --> 04:19:42,100
that's a 67% threshold.

8482
04:19:42,100 --> 04:19:45,100
Yeah, and also the implication

8483
04:19:46,100 --> 04:19:47,100
on the schools and competition

8484
04:19:47,100 --> 04:19:49,100
for money.

8485
04:19:49,100 --> 04:19:51,100
And I appreciate the math.

8486
04:19:51,100 --> 04:19:53,100
I guess I think the whole thing

8487
04:19:53,100 --> 04:19:55,100
is so unlikely.

8488
04:19:57,100 --> 04:19:58,100
I mean, you know,

8489
04:19:58,100 --> 04:20:00,100
the difference between $147

8490
04:20:00,100 --> 04:20:02,100
million and $175 million,

8491
04:20:02,100 --> 04:20:04,100
it's all.

8492
04:20:04,100 --> 04:20:06,100
It's $50 million in today's

8493
04:20:06,100 --> 04:20:09,100
dollars and extrapolates into a

8494
04:20:09,100 --> 04:20:11,100
grander number because we're

8495
04:20:11,100 --> 04:20:12,100
not building it today.

8496
04:20:12,100 --> 04:20:13,100
So the Delta is $50 million

8497
04:20:13,100 --> 04:20:15,100
today.

8498
04:20:17,100 --> 04:20:19,100
It's $50 million today,

8499
04:20:19,100 --> 04:20:20,100
let's call it, or even $40

8500
04:20:20,100 --> 04:20:22,100
million, even $30 million.

8501
04:20:23,100 --> 04:20:24,100
If we defer for 10 years,

8502
04:20:24,100 --> 04:20:26,100
that number becomes $500

8503
04:20:26,100 --> 04:20:27,100
million.

8504
04:20:27,100 --> 04:20:28,100
I mean, you can just see

8505
04:20:28,100 --> 04:20:29,100
by the exponential.

8506
04:20:29,100 --> 04:20:30,100
So then the question becomes

8507
04:20:30,100 --> 04:20:32,100
the reality of are we ever as a

8508
04:20:32,100 --> 04:20:33,100
community going to be able

8509
04:20:33,100 --> 04:20:35,100
to catch up with that?

8510
04:20:35,100 --> 04:20:37,100
And I'm right now pragmatically

8511
04:20:37,100 --> 04:20:38,100
looking at it like if the

8512
04:20:38,100 --> 04:20:41,100
number one priority is safety

8513
04:20:41,100 --> 04:20:43,100
and it's grade separation and

8514
04:20:43,100 --> 04:20:46,100
it's safety and we can solve

8515
04:20:46,100 --> 04:20:48,100
the transit problem through

8516
04:20:48,100 --> 04:20:50,100
shuttle or we can solve it

8517
04:20:50,100 --> 04:20:51,100
through, you know, the bike,

8518
04:20:51,100 --> 04:20:53,100
you know, the one mile bike,

8519
04:20:53,100 --> 04:20:54,100
you can get on your bike there

8520
04:20:54,100 --> 04:20:56,100
and you can go to Broadway or

8521
04:20:56,100 --> 04:20:58,100
you can go to wherever.

8522
04:20:58,100 --> 04:21:01,100
And you know, then to me, I'm

8523
04:21:01,100 --> 04:21:03,100
like, got

8524
04:21:03,100 --> 04:21:06,100
to pick the lowest hanging

8525
04:21:06,100 --> 04:21:07,100
fruit to be a responsible

8526
04:21:07,100 --> 04:21:09,401
council person and prioritize

8527
04:21:10,100 --> 04:21:11,100
the safety first and foremost.

8528
04:21:11,100 --> 04:21:14,601
So, you know, I'm, you know,

8529
04:21:17,100 --> 04:21:19,100
we can all, I think it's

8530
04:21:19,100 --> 04:21:21,100
like you say, this sort

8531
04:21:21,100 --> 04:21:22,100
of arguing against ourselves,

8532
04:21:22,100 --> 04:21:23,100
you know,

8533
04:21:23,100 --> 04:21:24,100
and it feels really crummy

8534
04:21:24,100 --> 04:21:25,100
to have to do that.

8535
04:21:25,100 --> 04:21:26,100
And it feels crummy to have

8536
04:21:26,100 --> 04:21:27,100
to say to people, you know,

8537
04:21:27,100 --> 04:21:28,100
you've been promised a train

8538
04:21:28,100 --> 04:21:29,100
station for the last 20 years

8539
04:21:29,100 --> 04:21:31,100
and say, oh my gosh,

8540
04:21:31,100 --> 04:21:32,100
now we're not.

8541
04:21:32,100 --> 04:21:34,100
But it also feels really crummy

8542
04:21:34,100 --> 04:21:35,100
for a lot of people who have

8543
04:21:35,100 --> 04:21:36,100
recently moved in here

8544
04:21:36,100 --> 04:21:37,100
in the last 15 years, they've

8545
04:21:37,100 --> 04:21:38,100
never had train service there

8546
04:21:38,100 --> 04:21:39,100
and they've managed

8547
04:21:39,100 --> 04:21:40,100
to figure it all out.

8548
04:21:40,100 --> 04:21:42,100
Could we revitalize it?

8549
04:21:42,100 --> 04:21:44,100
Yeah, but for, you know, $50

8550
04:21:44,100 --> 04:21:46,100
million, I can run a lot

8551
04:21:46,100 --> 04:21:48,100
of shuttles.

8552
04:21:50,100 --> 04:21:51,100
Yep.

8553
04:21:51,100 --> 04:21:52,100
Councilman.

8554
04:21:52,100 --> 04:21:53,100
Thank you.

8555
04:21:53,100 --> 04:21:54,100
Thank you, Mayor.

8556
04:21:54,100 --> 04:21:57,100
Robert, may I ask a question?

8557
04:21:57,100 --> 04:22:00,100
So if we don't, if we go

8558
04:22:00,100 --> 04:22:02,100
without package

8559
04:22:02,100 --> 04:22:04,100
without the train station

8560
04:22:04,100 --> 04:22:06,100
for four,

8561
04:22:06,100 --> 04:22:08,100
and then so that would

8562
04:22:08,100 --> 04:22:10,401
basically save, you know,

8563
04:22:12,100 --> 04:22:14,100
Caltrain from having

8564
04:22:15,100 --> 04:22:17,401
to maintain the station.

8565
04:22:19,100 --> 04:22:20,100
And I mean, it would save what

8566
04:22:20,100 --> 04:22:22,100
30, 40 million, would that,

8567
04:22:22,100 --> 04:22:24,401
would you be able

8568
04:22:25,100 --> 04:22:27,100
to put that money into, you

8569
04:22:27,100 --> 04:22:28,100
know, help us and put that

8570
04:22:28,100 --> 04:22:30,100
money that you're saving

8571
04:22:30,100 --> 04:22:32,100
into the project?

8572
04:22:34,100 --> 04:22:36,100
It's important

8573
04:22:36,100 --> 04:22:39,100
to understand that Caltrain, as

8574
04:22:39,100 --> 04:22:41,100
the Mayor said,

8575
04:22:41,100 --> 04:22:43,100
this is a local project.

8576
04:22:43,100 --> 04:22:44,100
That the money that Caltrain

8577
04:22:44,100 --> 04:22:46,401
gets is for service.

8578
04:22:47,100 --> 04:22:49,100
Now these improvements that get

8579
04:22:49,100 --> 04:22:51,100
built,

8580
04:22:51,100 --> 04:22:52,100
build a bridge that needs

8581
04:22:52,100 --> 04:22:54,100
to be inspected every year,

8582
04:22:54,100 --> 04:22:55,100
that needs to be maintained

8583
04:22:55,100 --> 04:22:57,100
in perpetuity,

8584
04:22:57,100 --> 04:22:58,100
the retaining walls need to be

8585
04:22:58,100 --> 04:22:59,100
inspected every year and

8586
04:22:59,100 --> 04:23:01,100
maintained in perpetuity.

8587
04:23:01,100 --> 04:23:02,100
Although we don't pay

8588
04:23:02,100 --> 04:23:04,100
for the capital side

8589
04:23:04,100 --> 04:23:05,100
of the house,

8590
04:23:05,100 --> 04:23:07,100
there's dedicated funding

8591
04:23:07,100 --> 04:23:08,100
with the measures

8592
04:23:08,100 --> 04:23:09,100
for grade separations

8593
04:23:09,100 --> 04:23:10,100
for that.

8594
04:23:10,100 --> 04:23:12,100
Caltrain operations cost does

8595
04:23:12,100 --> 04:23:14,100
increase in perpetuity when

8596
04:23:14,100 --> 04:23:16,100
these structures get built

8597
04:23:16,100 --> 04:23:17,100
because they become an asset we

8598
04:23:17,100 --> 04:23:19,100
have to maintain.

8599
04:23:19,100 --> 04:23:20,100
And so there is,

8600
04:23:20,100 --> 04:23:21,100
we're not paying today

8601
04:23:21,100 --> 04:23:23,100
to build it,

8602
04:23:23,100 --> 04:23:25,100
but we do get that obligation

8603
04:23:25,100 --> 04:23:26,100
to continue to maintain it.

8604
04:23:26,100 --> 04:23:27,100
That increases Caltrain's

8605
04:23:27,100 --> 04:23:29,100
overall operating cost forever.

8606
04:23:29,100 --> 04:23:32,601
I don't know if that helps.

8607
04:23:33,100 --> 04:23:35,100
And Vice Mayor Brownrigg,

8608
04:23:35,100 --> 04:23:36,100
you're right, it's $20, $23

8609
04:23:36,100 --> 04:23:39,100
million is what they're saying

8610
04:23:41,100 --> 04:23:43,401
the delta is today.

8611
04:23:47,100 --> 04:23:51,201
A question, I get the idea of

8612
04:23:52,100 --> 04:23:54,100
building a flatter platform

8613
04:23:54,100 --> 04:23:56,100
when you have a station because

8614
04:23:56,100 --> 04:23:57,100
you've got seven car minimum

8615
04:23:57,100 --> 04:23:58,100
and you get people in and out

8616
04:23:58,100 --> 04:24:00,100
of the train.

8617
04:24:01,100 --> 04:24:02,100
Is there evidence across the

8618
04:24:02,100 --> 04:24:04,100
U.S. where,

8619
04:24:04,100 --> 04:24:06,100
let's say we build option four,

8620
04:24:06,100 --> 04:24:07,100
but ten years from now we want

8621
04:24:07,100 --> 04:24:09,100
to put a station in.

8622
04:24:09,100 --> 04:24:11,100
Why do we have to have the

8623
04:24:11,100 --> 04:24:13,100
train open all seven cars?

8624
04:24:13,100 --> 04:24:14,100
Why can't it open only three

8625
04:24:14,100 --> 04:24:16,100
cars?

8626
04:24:16,100 --> 04:24:18,100
In the middle of the station,

8627
04:24:18,100 --> 04:24:20,100
the pop-up, so to speak,

8628
04:24:20,100 --> 04:24:21,100
or the adjunct,

8629
04:24:21,100 --> 04:24:22,100
and you just allow riders

8630
04:24:22,100 --> 04:24:23,100
in and out

8631
04:24:23,100 --> 04:24:25,100
over those three cars.

8632
04:24:25,100 --> 04:24:26,100
There's movement up and

8633
04:24:26,100 --> 04:24:27,100
down the train

8634
04:24:27,100 --> 04:24:29,100
inside the cars.

8635
04:24:30,100 --> 04:24:31,100
It's really a question

8636
04:24:31,100 --> 04:24:33,100
of safety and volume.

8637
04:24:33,100 --> 04:24:34,100
And the volume never will be

8638
04:24:34,100 --> 04:24:36,100
that great, except maybe

8639
04:24:36,100 --> 04:24:37,100
on a giant scheme.

8640
04:24:37,100 --> 04:24:39,100
But is that ever an option

8641
04:24:39,100 --> 04:24:40,100
down the road?

8642
04:24:40,100 --> 04:24:42,100
What would the provisions be

8643
04:24:42,100 --> 04:24:43,100
to be able to say,

8644
04:24:43,100 --> 04:24:44,100
I'm just going to put a very

8645
04:24:44,100 --> 04:24:46,100
minimal station that's only

8646
04:24:46,100 --> 04:24:48,100
open to three or four cars

8647
04:24:48,100 --> 04:24:49,100
because it's flat for that

8648
04:24:49,100 --> 04:24:50,100
level when it goes up and over

8649
04:24:50,100 --> 04:24:52,100
on option four?

8650
04:24:52,100 --> 04:24:53,100
We haven't looked

8651
04:24:53,100 --> 04:24:55,100
at that option, but happy

8652
04:24:55,100 --> 04:24:57,100
to do so.

8653
04:24:57,100 --> 04:24:59,100
Because then that option three

8654
04:24:59,100 --> 04:25:00,100
and four are no longer mutually

8655
04:25:00,100 --> 04:25:01,100
separate.

8656
04:25:01,100 --> 04:25:02,100
And I do get the aspect that

8657
04:25:02,100 --> 04:25:03,100
from a design standpoint,

8658
04:25:03,100 --> 04:25:05,100
we have to give you direction

8659
04:25:05,100 --> 04:25:07,100
because you're going

8660
04:25:07,100 --> 04:25:09,100
to go back and ask CGMG, CMGC,

8661
04:25:09,100 --> 04:25:10,100
and all the others to say,

8662
04:25:10,100 --> 04:25:12,100
well, you're going to be

8663
04:25:12,100 --> 04:25:13,100
designing a seven-car station

8664
04:25:13,100 --> 04:25:15,100
side thing, or you're going to

8665
04:25:15,100 --> 04:25:17,100
be designing nothing other than

8666
04:25:17,100 --> 04:25:19,100
the grade separation.

8667
04:25:20,100 --> 04:25:21,100
And so sometimes we get mired

8668
04:25:21,100 --> 04:25:23,100
in our own thinking

8669
04:25:23,100 --> 04:25:25,100
about what's possible.

8670
04:25:25,100 --> 04:25:28,100
Why isn't that something other

8671
04:25:28,100 --> 04:25:29,100
than maybe an R or something

8672
04:25:29,100 --> 04:25:30,100
like that?

8673
04:25:30,100 --> 04:25:32,100
But the reality is you only

8674
04:25:32,100 --> 04:25:33,100
have 25 people getting

8675
04:25:33,100 --> 04:25:34,100
on the train or 50 people

8676
04:25:34,100 --> 04:25:36,100
getting on the train.

8677
04:25:36,100 --> 04:25:39,100
They don't need seven options.

8678
04:25:40,100 --> 04:25:42,100
But you would be deferring the

8679
04:25:42,100 --> 04:25:44,100
station, but building it that

8680
04:25:44,100 --> 04:25:47,100
it could accommodate a special

8681
04:25:47,100 --> 04:25:50,100
event or a special train that

8682
04:25:50,100 --> 04:25:52,100
allows shorter operation with

8683
04:25:52,100 --> 04:25:53,100
fewer doors is what you're

8684
04:25:53,100 --> 04:25:54,100
suggesting.

8685
04:25:54,100 --> 04:25:56,100
It's still up 10 cars.

8686
04:25:56,100 --> 04:25:57,100
No, but what I want

8687
04:25:57,100 --> 04:26:00,100
to make sure I understand is

8688
04:26:00,100 --> 04:26:03,100
in the design, you'd go up and

8689
04:26:03,100 --> 04:26:05,100
have a shorter flat section

8690
04:26:05,100 --> 04:26:07,100
that in the future you could

8691
04:26:07,100 --> 04:26:09,100
build a station, not today.

8692
04:26:09,100 --> 04:26:11,100
But that way you wouldn't have

8693
04:26:11,100 --> 04:26:12,100
to rebuild that infrastructure

8694
04:26:12,100 --> 04:26:13,100
that would accommodate that.

8695
04:26:13,100 --> 04:26:14,100
Right.

8696
04:26:14,100 --> 04:26:16,100
Is that the question?

8697
04:26:16,100 --> 04:26:17,100
Let me take a look at that.

8698
04:26:17,100 --> 04:26:20,100
Because that would narrow that

8699
04:26:20,100 --> 04:26:21,100
$23 million gap, theoretically,

8700
04:26:21,100 --> 04:26:23,100
because you're going up and

8701
04:26:23,100 --> 04:26:24,100
over faster.

8702
04:26:24,100 --> 04:26:25,100
You have a shorter window

8703
04:26:25,100 --> 04:26:27,100
of flat.

8704
04:26:27,100 --> 04:26:29,100
It'd be an interesting.

8705
04:26:29,100 --> 04:26:31,100
We haven't asked our operation

8706
04:26:31,100 --> 04:26:33,100
folks the implications of that.

8707
04:26:33,100 --> 04:26:35,100
I'm a builder.

8708
04:26:35,100 --> 04:26:36,100
I don't play train operations.

8709
04:26:36,100 --> 04:26:38,100
That's not my wheelhouse.

8710
04:26:38,100 --> 04:26:39,100
So you'd have

8711
04:26:39,100 --> 04:26:42,100
to ask the experts on that.

8712
04:26:42,100 --> 04:26:44,401
About that information, it's

8713
04:26:46,100 --> 04:26:49,100
like the station idea puts us

8714
04:26:49,100 --> 04:26:51,100
further away.

8715
04:26:51,100 --> 04:26:54,100
It isn't maybe as much as we

8716
04:26:54,100 --> 04:26:55,100
think, but I don't want

8717
04:26:55,100 --> 04:26:57,100
to come back and say a month

8718
04:26:57,100 --> 04:27:00,100
from now after saying, you

8719
04:27:00,100 --> 04:27:01,100
know, let's do four, and then

8720
04:27:01,100 --> 04:27:04,100
we later decide when we really

8721
04:27:04,100 --> 04:27:06,100
have to vote on something

8722
04:27:06,100 --> 04:27:08,100
to say, well, let's go

8723
04:27:08,100 --> 04:27:09,100
with three, because now we just

8724
04:27:09,100 --> 04:27:11,100
wasted the design effort

8725
04:27:11,100 --> 04:27:13,100
of rethinking the design

8726
04:27:13,100 --> 04:27:15,100
for an option four.

8727
04:27:15,100 --> 04:27:16,100
So we have this mutual

8728
04:27:16,100 --> 04:27:17,100
exclusivity right

8729
04:27:17,100 --> 04:27:18,100
in this window

8730
04:27:18,100 --> 04:27:19,100
for coming back,

8731
04:27:19,100 --> 04:27:20,100
what we would financially

8732
04:27:20,100 --> 04:27:23,100
commit to in the near term,

8733
04:27:23,100 --> 04:27:25,100
but we haven't done all

8734
04:27:25,100 --> 04:27:26,100
of the options, really,

8735
04:27:26,100 --> 04:27:28,100
when you think

8736
04:27:28,100 --> 04:27:30,100
about station or no station.

8737
04:27:30,100 --> 04:27:31,100
That's my view.

8738
04:27:31,100 --> 04:27:33,100
Right now, I would push for.

8739
04:27:33,100 --> 04:27:34,100
Can I elaborate?

8740
04:27:34,100 --> 04:27:36,100
Yes.

8741
04:27:36,100 --> 04:27:38,100
Go ahead.

8742
04:27:38,100 --> 04:27:40,100
Kind of related to that, I

8743
04:27:40,100 --> 04:27:41,100
don't know if it's been

8744
04:27:41,100 --> 04:27:42,100
considered

8745
04:27:42,100 --> 04:27:44,100
to essentially do option four,

8746
04:27:44,100 --> 04:27:46,100
where you could quickly go up

8747
04:27:46,100 --> 04:27:48,100
and over Broadway,

8748
04:27:48,100 --> 04:27:49,100
but move the station

8749
04:27:49,100 --> 04:27:51,100
like a quarter of a mile, say,

8750
04:27:51,100 --> 04:27:52,100
I don't know how far, north or

8751
04:27:52,100 --> 04:27:53,100
south, where it could be

8752
04:27:53,100 --> 04:27:55,100
at grade.

8753
04:27:55,100 --> 04:27:57,401
So separate the grade

8754
04:27:58,100 --> 04:27:59,100
separation from the station.

8755
04:27:59,100 --> 04:28:01,100
Now, it wouldn't be right at

8756
04:28:01,100 --> 04:28:02,100
Broadway, but, you know,

8757
04:28:02,100 --> 04:28:03,100
it might be able to be over

8758
04:28:03,100 --> 04:28:04,100
by Lincoln or Armalita or

8759
04:28:04,100 --> 04:28:06,100
something.

8760
04:28:06,100 --> 04:28:07,100
Yes, there are creeks and other

8761
04:28:07,100 --> 04:28:09,100
things, but I'm just wondering

8762
04:28:09,100 --> 04:28:10,100
if that was considered.

8763
04:28:10,100 --> 04:28:12,100
The initial project study

8764
04:28:12,100 --> 04:28:14,100
report was done in 2017, and

8765
04:28:14,100 --> 04:28:16,100
I'm not sure what were the full

8766
04:28:16,100 --> 04:28:17,100
range of options they took

8767
04:28:17,100 --> 04:28:19,100
for it, realizing there was a

8768
04:28:19,100 --> 04:28:21,100
full project study report,

8769
04:28:21,100 --> 04:28:22,100
I imagine lots

8770
04:28:22,100 --> 04:28:24,100
of public outreach,

8771
04:28:24,100 --> 04:28:26,100
exploring a lot of options, and

8772
04:28:26,100 --> 04:28:29,100
I don't know whether that was

8773
04:28:29,100 --> 04:28:30,100
one of them or not.

8774
04:28:30,100 --> 04:28:31,100
Ron?

8775
04:28:31,100 --> 04:28:32,100
I was just going

8776
04:28:32,100 --> 04:28:33,100
to say it's getting late, and,

8777
04:28:33,100 --> 04:28:35,100
you know, Councilwoman Colson

8778
04:28:35,100 --> 04:28:36,100
makes a compelling argument

8779
04:28:36,100 --> 04:28:38,100
that the responsible vote

8780
04:28:38,100 --> 04:28:40,100
tonight would be

8781
04:28:40,100 --> 04:28:41,100
for the least expensive option,

8782
04:28:41,100 --> 04:28:44,100
because it is the most likely

8783
04:28:44,100 --> 04:28:46,100
to be funded, and I will

8784
04:28:46,100 --> 04:28:48,100
reluctantly join that

8785
04:28:48,100 --> 04:28:49,100
consensus.

8786
04:28:49,100 --> 04:28:51,100
What I really believe is that

8787
04:28:51,100 --> 04:28:52,100
tonight is not the hard

8788
04:28:52,100 --> 04:28:53,100
decision.

8789
04:28:53,100 --> 04:28:54,100
The hard decision is when this

8790
04:28:54,100 --> 04:28:55,100
comes back

8791
04:28:55,100 --> 04:28:56,100
in six or eight or ten weeks,

8792
04:28:56,100 --> 04:28:58,100
and we have to decide whether

8793
04:28:58,100 --> 04:29:00,100
to spend real money,

8794
04:29:00,100 --> 04:29:02,100
and I'll just say right now, I

8795
04:29:02,100 --> 04:29:04,100
don't,

8796
04:29:04,100 --> 04:29:05,100
I have real problems thinking

8797
04:29:05,100 --> 04:29:07,100
about betting again

8798
04:29:08,100 --> 04:29:10,100
on this enterprise,

8799
04:29:10,100 --> 04:29:11,100
but we don't have

8800
04:29:11,100 --> 04:29:13,100
to decide that tonight.

8801
04:29:13,100 --> 04:29:14,100
And then we'll have more

8802
04:29:14,100 --> 04:29:15,100
information from the TA,

8803
04:29:15,100 --> 04:29:17,100
and we'll have an understanding

8804
04:29:17,100 --> 04:29:20,100
of their aptitude, you know,

8805
04:29:20,100 --> 04:29:23,100
sort of their interest in,

8806
04:29:24,100 --> 04:29:26,401
yeah, in funding $283 million.

8807
04:29:27,100 --> 04:29:29,100
I do appreciate, Councilwoman

8808
04:29:29,100 --> 04:29:31,100
Thayer's sort of, you know,

8809
04:29:31,100 --> 04:29:32,100
could we move the station?

8810
04:29:32,100 --> 04:29:34,100
The problem

8811
04:29:34,100 --> 04:29:35,100
with that becomes you have to,

8812
04:29:35,100 --> 04:29:37,100
you're going to have to tear

8813
04:29:37,100 --> 04:29:39,100
out houses on California Drive

8814
04:29:39,100 --> 04:29:40,100
to build, you know, you'd have

8815
04:29:40,100 --> 04:29:41,100
to have a parking lot,

8816
04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:42,100
and you'd have to build a lot

8817
04:29:42,100 --> 04:29:43,100
of infrastructure

8818
04:29:43,100 --> 04:29:45,100
around the station.

8819
04:29:45,100 --> 04:29:46,100
I'd love to say it could be,

8820
04:29:46,100 --> 04:29:47,100
unless it's just a walking

8821
04:29:47,100 --> 04:29:48,100
station, you'd say you have

8822
04:29:48,100 --> 04:29:49,100
to walk to it, possibly,

8823
04:29:49,100 --> 04:29:52,100
but I don't believe that was

8824
04:29:52,100 --> 04:29:55,100
in the design purview, so we've

8825
04:29:55,100 --> 04:29:56,100
never considered that.

8826
04:29:56,100 --> 04:29:59,100
Another issue on that happened

8827
04:29:59,100 --> 04:30:02,100
to be because of the proximity

8828
04:30:02,100 --> 04:30:04,100
to two other stations,

8829
04:30:04,100 --> 04:30:05,100
like if you look up and

8830
04:30:05,100 --> 04:30:06,100
down the train corridor,

8831
04:30:06,100 --> 04:30:08,100
most cities have one station,

8832
04:30:08,100 --> 04:30:10,100
you know, of our size,

8833
04:30:10,100 --> 04:30:12,401
only have one station.

8834
04:30:13,100 --> 04:30:16,100
The allowance for Broadway, I

8835
04:30:16,100 --> 04:30:18,100
think, as I'm understanding it,

8836
04:30:18,100 --> 04:30:20,100
was an exception, granted

8837
04:30:20,100 --> 04:30:22,401
like 15 years ago, sort

8838
04:30:23,100 --> 04:30:26,100
of as a, you know,

8839
04:30:26,100 --> 04:30:29,100
I don't know how it happened,

8840
04:30:29,100 --> 04:30:30,100
I wasn't here, but it's

8841
04:30:30,100 --> 04:30:32,100
essentially an unstandard

8842
04:30:32,100 --> 04:30:35,100
situation for a station, and I

8843
04:30:35,100 --> 04:30:37,401
mean, I would love

8844
04:30:39,100 --> 04:30:41,100
to build a station.

8845
04:30:41,100 --> 04:30:42,100
I mean,

8846
04:30:42,100 --> 04:30:43,100
I'm playing the lottery every

8847
04:30:43,100 --> 04:30:44,100
day, hoping

8848
04:30:44,100 --> 04:30:45,100
to win the big ticket,

8849
04:30:45,100 --> 04:30:46,100
and we can all do it and build

8850
04:30:46,100 --> 04:30:47,100
it, and we just do it.

8851
04:30:47,100 --> 04:30:49,100
I just know, I'm also kind

8852
04:30:49,100 --> 04:30:53,100
of trying to deal with what the

8853
04:30:53,100 --> 04:30:54,100
next four years are going

8854
04:30:54,100 --> 04:30:55,100
to look like.

8855
04:30:55,100 --> 04:30:56,100
I'm trying to be pragmatic

8856
04:30:56,100 --> 04:30:58,100
about our chances

8857
04:30:58,100 --> 04:30:59,100
of getting money out

8858
04:30:59,100 --> 04:31:01,401
of the federal government,

8859
04:31:02,100 --> 04:31:04,100
the defunding that's going

8860
04:31:04,100 --> 04:31:05,100
to occur in the state of

8861
04:31:05,100 --> 04:31:07,100
California, and the move away

8862
04:31:07,100 --> 04:31:09,100
from transit money in order

8863
04:31:09,100 --> 04:31:11,401
to probably fund Medicaid,

8864
04:31:12,100 --> 04:31:14,100
Medicare, social services that

8865
04:31:14,100 --> 04:31:16,100
are going to be cut

8866
04:31:16,100 --> 04:31:18,100
by this administration,

8867
04:31:18,100 --> 04:31:19,100
how that's going to look.

8868
04:31:19,100 --> 04:31:20,100
These are just the,

8869
04:31:20,100 --> 04:31:21,100
and then today we are going

8870
04:31:21,100 --> 04:31:22,100
to have 25% tariffs go in,

8871
04:31:22,100 --> 04:31:24,100
so I'm just trying to think

8872
04:31:24,100 --> 04:31:25,100
about it

8873
04:31:25,100 --> 04:31:26,100
from the standpoint of, you

8874
04:31:26,100 --> 04:31:28,100
know, maximizing safety,

8875
04:31:28,100 --> 04:31:30,100
minimizing cost.

8876
04:31:30,100 --> 04:31:32,100
Those are the two variables

8877
04:31:32,100 --> 04:31:33,100
that I'm considering the

8878
04:31:33,100 --> 04:31:36,100
highest, and the station is,

8879
04:31:36,100 --> 04:31:37,100
I would have, should have,

8880
04:31:37,100 --> 04:31:39,100
loved to have had it 10 years

8881
04:31:39,100 --> 04:31:41,100
ago, but at this point,

8882
04:31:41,100 --> 04:31:42,100
even adding 20 or 30 or $40

8883
04:31:42,100 --> 04:31:44,401
million just seems incredibly

8884
04:31:46,100 --> 04:31:49,100
out of reach, but I agree,

8885
04:31:49,100 --> 04:31:50,100
Councilman, we, or Vice

8886
04:31:50,100 --> 04:31:53,100
Mayor, we may, I mean,

8887
04:31:53,100 --> 04:31:56,100
there just may be, right,

8888
04:31:56,100 --> 04:31:57,100
just a bridge, it just, you

8889
04:31:57,100 --> 04:31:59,100
know, this was,

8890
04:32:00,100 --> 04:32:01,100
should have happened 10 years

8891
04:32:01,100 --> 04:32:03,100
ago, and I don't want to,

8892
04:32:03,100 --> 04:32:04,100
I really don't want

8893
04:32:04,100 --> 04:32:06,100
to abandon it.

8894
04:32:06,100 --> 04:32:07,100
The reason I

8895
04:32:07,100 --> 04:32:08,100
like option number four, too,

8896
04:32:08,100 --> 04:32:09,100
is because I feel

8897
04:32:09,100 --> 04:32:10,100
like we can shove it

8898
04:32:10,100 --> 04:32:12,100
in the queue, and we can, you

8899
04:32:12,100 --> 04:32:13,100
know, sort

8900
04:32:13,100 --> 04:32:15,100
of make a decision of,

8901
04:32:15,100 --> 04:32:17,100
like you say, do we want

8902
04:32:17,100 --> 04:32:19,401
to do another $2 million,

8903
04:32:20,100 --> 04:32:21,100
and get a sense of the TA,

8904
04:32:21,100 --> 04:32:22,100
and then put it in the queue,

8905
04:32:22,100 --> 04:32:23,100
and then my sort of thinking

8906
04:32:23,100 --> 04:32:25,100
on this is,

8907
04:32:25,100 --> 04:32:26,100
how do we fund it?

8908
04:32:26,100 --> 04:32:29,100
It's, you know, the federal

8909
04:32:29,100 --> 04:32:30,100
administration,

8910
04:32:30,100 --> 04:32:32,100
the feds have just pulled back

8911
04:32:32,100 --> 04:32:34,100
$4 billion in funding

8912
04:32:34,100 --> 04:32:35,100
for the high-speed rail, so

8913
04:32:35,100 --> 04:32:36,100
maybe the high-speed rail isn't

8914
04:32:36,100 --> 04:32:37,100
really as viable as a project,

8915
04:32:37,100 --> 04:32:38,100
so maybe we go

8916
04:32:38,100 --> 04:32:40,100
to the state and we lobby,

8917
04:32:40,100 --> 04:32:41,100
I was talking to a couple

8918
04:32:41,100 --> 04:32:42,100
of assembly people today

8919
04:32:42,100 --> 04:32:44,100
about this, could we go back

8920
04:32:44,100 --> 04:32:46,100
and lobby the state and say,

8921
04:32:46,100 --> 04:32:47,100
all right, you know,

8922
04:32:47,100 --> 04:32:49,100
the bullet train,

8923
04:32:49,100 --> 04:32:50,100
the high-speed rail is just

8924
04:32:50,100 --> 04:32:51,100
floundering,

8925
04:32:51,100 --> 04:32:52,100
that's really not going

8926
04:32:52,100 --> 04:32:53,100
to happen, let's take that,

8927
04:32:53,100 --> 04:32:54,100
those billions that were

8928
04:32:54,100 --> 04:32:55,100
allocated to that

8929
04:32:55,100 --> 04:32:56,100
at the state level, and bring

8930
04:32:56,100 --> 04:32:57,100
them back and solve this

8931
04:32:57,100 --> 04:32:59,100
corridor problem all up and

8932
04:32:59,100 --> 04:33:01,100
down, and a coalition

8933
04:33:01,100 --> 04:33:03,100
of elected from Morgan Hill

8934
04:33:03,100 --> 04:33:06,100
to San Francisco could work

8935
04:33:08,100 --> 04:33:10,100
together to help the state

8936
04:33:10,100 --> 04:33:11,100
craft a new funding philosophy,

8937
04:33:11,100 --> 04:33:13,100
you know, possibly,

8938
04:33:15,100 --> 04:33:17,100
and prioritize dealing with the

8939
04:33:17,100 --> 04:33:19,401
corridor transit right now,

8940
04:33:21,100 --> 04:33:23,100
and then go back and for more

8941
04:33:23,100 --> 04:33:24,100
years when there's maybe a

8942
04:33:24,100 --> 04:33:25,100
different administration and

8943
04:33:25,100 --> 04:33:27,100
different feeling on funding

8944
04:33:27,100 --> 04:33:28,100
the high-speed rail.

8945
04:33:28,100 --> 04:33:29,100
I don't know if that's

8946
04:33:29,100 --> 04:33:31,100
practical or not,

8947
04:33:31,100 --> 04:33:33,100
I'm just trying to use my, you

8948
04:33:33,100 --> 04:33:34,100
know, every where

8949
04:33:34,100 --> 04:33:35,100
with all I have to think

8950
04:33:35,100 --> 04:33:36,100
about how to do this,

8951
04:33:36,100 --> 04:33:37,100
and that's kind

8952
04:33:37,100 --> 04:33:39,100
of where I'm ending up.

8953
04:33:39,100 --> 04:33:40,100
And that's a heavy lift

8954
04:33:40,100 --> 04:33:42,100
for us,

8955
04:33:42,100 --> 04:33:43,100
because that means we're going

8956
04:33:43,100 --> 04:33:44,100
to have to hire lobbyists,

8957
04:33:44,100 --> 04:33:45,100
and we're going to have

8958
04:33:45,100 --> 04:33:46,100
to work on all this stuff,

8959
04:33:46,100 --> 04:33:49,601
and it's a big, big, heavy

8960
04:33:51,100 --> 04:33:52,100
lift. I think we've gotten

8961
04:33:52,100 --> 04:33:55,100
input from across the dais,

8962
04:33:55,100 --> 04:33:58,100
I think to summarize the

8963
04:33:59,100 --> 04:34:01,401
direction is option four,

8964
04:34:02,100 --> 04:34:05,601
we need to know the scrutiny

8965
04:34:06,100 --> 04:34:08,100
of the 20 million,

8966
04:34:08,100 --> 04:34:11,100
and what is that real number.

8967
04:34:11,100 --> 04:34:13,100
To Vice Mayor's point, I think

8968
04:34:13,100 --> 04:34:14,100
the real hard decision is

8969
04:34:14,100 --> 04:34:16,100
coming, it's not right now, and

8970
04:34:16,100 --> 04:34:17,100
obviously there's broader

8971
04:34:17,100 --> 04:34:19,401
concerns just in terms

8972
04:34:20,100 --> 04:34:22,401
of the feasibility, but

8973
04:34:24,100 --> 04:34:26,100
to be focused first

8974
04:34:26,100 --> 04:34:28,100
on safety,

8975
04:34:28,100 --> 04:34:30,100
which I think is uniform

8976
04:34:30,100 --> 04:34:32,100
across the dais, is number one,

8977
04:34:32,100 --> 04:34:34,100
I think focus on cost is

8978
04:34:34,100 --> 04:34:36,100
obviously a close second,

8979
04:34:36,100 --> 04:34:39,100
and the option of a station,

8980
04:34:39,100 --> 04:34:41,401
while interesting, you know,

8981
04:34:44,100 --> 04:34:45,100
it would be maybe nice

8982
04:34:45,100 --> 04:34:47,100
in some respect,

8983
04:34:48,100 --> 04:34:49,100
we can't just decide

8984
04:34:49,100 --> 04:34:51,100
on that right now. We have

8985
04:34:51,100 --> 04:34:52,100
to think

8986
04:34:52,100 --> 04:34:53,100
about what we can get done

8987
04:34:53,100 --> 04:34:55,100
for safety. High-speed rail

8988
04:34:55,100 --> 04:34:56,100
doesn't have people dying

8989
04:34:56,100 --> 04:34:58,100
on their tracks. They don't

8990
04:34:58,100 --> 04:35:00,100
have accidents in their

8991
04:35:00,100 --> 04:35:02,100
corridors or their crossings.

8992
04:35:02,100 --> 04:35:03,100
We do,

8993
04:35:03,100 --> 04:35:05,100
and so I think there's a lot

8994
04:35:05,100 --> 04:35:07,100
of work that has to be done,

8995
04:35:07,100 --> 04:35:08,100
and I did like some

8996
04:35:08,100 --> 04:35:09,100
of the input earlier today

8997
04:35:09,100 --> 04:35:10,100
about that joint lobbying

8998
04:35:10,100 --> 04:35:11,100
effort,

8999
04:35:11,100 --> 04:35:12,100
because I think it's been

9000
04:35:12,100 --> 04:35:14,100
talked about historically,

9001
04:35:15,100 --> 04:35:17,100
particularly at the LPMG,

9002
04:35:17,100 --> 04:35:20,100
but never really executed on,

9003
04:35:20,100 --> 04:35:21,100
and yet we're at a situation

9004
04:35:21,100 --> 04:35:23,100
now where this isn't the only

9005
04:35:23,100 --> 04:35:24,100
problem on the corridor,

9006
04:35:24,100 --> 04:35:25,100
it's the most important, but

9007
04:35:25,100 --> 04:35:27,100
there's other great crossings,

9008
04:35:27,100 --> 04:35:28,100
and we need some different

9009
04:35:28,100 --> 04:35:30,100
approach to get the confidence

9010
04:35:30,100 --> 04:35:31,100
back that we can actually

9011
04:35:31,100 --> 04:35:33,100
execute this, so,

9012
04:35:34,100 --> 04:35:37,100
fair enough? Okay. Thank you.

9013
04:35:37,100 --> 04:35:39,401
Thank you. With that,

9014
04:35:40,100 --> 04:35:42,100
I'm just going to ask Council

9015
04:35:42,100 --> 04:35:44,401
for future agenda items,

9016
04:35:45,100 --> 04:35:49,201
if any. Yes. Yeah. I have one.

9017
04:35:51,100 --> 04:35:54,100
Member Colson. So, having been

9018
04:35:55,100 --> 04:35:57,100
in the neighborhood where the,

9019
04:35:57,100 --> 04:35:58,100
when we had the active shooter

9020
04:35:58,100 --> 04:35:59,100
situation at the Hillsborough

9021
04:35:59,100 --> 04:36:02,100
Police Station, the SMC alert

9022
04:36:03,100 --> 04:36:05,401
system was very inconsistent.

9023
04:36:06,100 --> 04:36:07,100
Some people received alerts,

9024
04:36:07,100 --> 04:36:08,100
some people didn't receive

9025
04:36:08,100 --> 04:36:09,100
alerts,

9026
04:36:09,100 --> 04:36:11,100
some people got notifications.

9027
04:36:11,100 --> 04:36:14,100
Just sometime in the next,

9028
04:36:14,100 --> 04:36:16,100
no high priority,

9029
04:36:16,100 --> 04:36:17,100
but I would really love

9030
04:36:17,100 --> 04:36:19,100
to understand a little more

9031
04:36:19,100 --> 04:36:22,100
about that alert system and

9032
04:36:22,100 --> 04:36:23,100
how, what the process is

9033
04:36:23,100 --> 04:36:25,100
for dissemination, just

9034
04:36:25,100 --> 04:36:27,100
to make sure that

9035
04:36:27,100 --> 04:36:29,100
in the future, when there is a

9036
04:36:29,100 --> 04:36:30,100
lockdown, everybody who needs

9037
04:36:30,100 --> 04:36:33,100
to be informed is informed. If

9038
04:36:33,100 --> 04:36:34,100
there's a fire, if there's an

9039
04:36:34,100 --> 04:36:36,100
emergency and that system's

9040
04:36:36,100 --> 04:36:38,100
working, it didn't work

9041
04:36:38,100 --> 04:36:40,100
on this particular incident,

9042
04:36:40,100 --> 04:36:43,100
so I just, I want

9043
04:36:43,100 --> 04:36:44,100
to make sure we figure

9044
04:36:44,100 --> 04:36:47,100
out why and we fix it

9045
04:36:47,100 --> 04:36:50,100
for the future. Thank you.

9046
04:36:50,100 --> 04:36:51,100
Yeah, I think, having been

9047
04:36:51,100 --> 04:36:52,100
overseas and starting

9048
04:36:52,100 --> 04:36:53,100
to get text messages

9049
04:36:53,100 --> 04:36:54,100
from people that lived on

9050
04:36:54,100 --> 04:36:56,401
Walnut elsewhere, they're like,

9051
04:36:57,100 --> 04:36:58,100
where was the SMC alert? And

9052
04:36:58,100 --> 04:36:59,100
other people were saying,

9053
04:36:59,100 --> 04:37:01,100
I got it, and so I definitely

9054
04:37:01,100 --> 04:37:04,100
think an update from the police

9055
04:37:04,100 --> 04:37:06,100
department and emergency

9056
04:37:06,100 --> 04:37:08,100
services would be valuable

9057
04:37:08,100 --> 04:37:10,100
education, not only

9058
04:37:10,100 --> 04:37:11,100
for the council, but maybe

9059
04:37:11,100 --> 04:37:12,100
identify changes that we can do

9060
04:37:12,100 --> 04:37:14,100
going forward. So, for that,

9061
04:37:14,100 --> 04:37:15,100
we'll need

9062
04:37:15,100 --> 04:37:16,100
to bring the county in,

9063
04:37:16,100 --> 04:37:18,100
because it's actually the

9064
04:37:18,100 --> 04:37:20,100
county system, not a study

9065
04:37:20,100 --> 04:37:22,401
session, or? Anybody else

9066
04:37:23,100 --> 04:37:25,100
with advice? So not a new item,

9067
04:37:25,100 --> 04:37:26,100
but just, sorry, a PS to the

9068
04:37:26,100 --> 04:37:28,100
last item. I think it would be

9069
04:37:28,100 --> 04:37:31,100
very helpful when this comes

9070
04:37:31,100 --> 04:37:33,401
back for our consideration,

9071
04:37:34,100 --> 04:37:35,100
if we asked,

9072
04:37:35,100 --> 04:37:36,100
which I think is the very,

9073
04:37:36,100 --> 04:37:38,100
very least we could ask,

9074
04:37:38,100 --> 04:37:39,100
but we ask the Washington,

9075
04:37:39,100 --> 04:37:41,100
D.C. lobbyists we currently

9076
04:37:41,100 --> 04:37:42,100
have for their assessment

9077
04:37:42,100 --> 04:37:44,100
of money

9078
04:37:44,100 --> 04:37:46,100
from the federal government

9079
04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:48,100
over the next four years. I

9080
04:37:48,100 --> 04:37:50,100
just think there's a lot

9081
04:37:50,100 --> 04:37:51,100
of guessing going on, and there

9082
04:37:51,100 --> 04:37:52,100
are people who know more than

9083
04:37:52,100 --> 04:37:55,100
we do. Maybe, and another PS on

9084
04:37:55,100 --> 04:37:58,100
that. I think when this item

9085
04:37:58,100 --> 04:37:59,100
comes back, we really need

9086
04:37:59,100 --> 04:38:01,100
to do a little more outreach

9087
04:38:01,100 --> 04:38:03,100
to make sure people know it's

9088
04:38:03,100 --> 04:38:04,100
on the agenda, so letting the

9089
04:38:04,100 --> 04:38:06,100
Broadway bid know,

9090
04:38:06,100 --> 04:38:07,100
letting the neighbors

9091
04:38:07,100 --> 04:38:09,100
in that area know, putting it

9092
04:38:09,100 --> 04:38:10,100
in the e-newsletter,

9093
04:38:10,100 --> 04:38:13,601
this is just a huge decision,

9094
04:38:14,100 --> 04:38:15,100
and I want to make sure we're

9095
04:38:15,100 --> 04:38:17,100
getting a lot of,

9096
04:38:17,100 --> 04:38:18,100
we're hearing

9097
04:38:18,100 --> 04:38:19,100
from people. I mean,

9098
04:38:19,100 --> 04:38:21,100
I'm talking to people,

9099
04:38:21,100 --> 04:38:22,100
but I just think we need

9100
04:38:22,100 --> 04:38:24,100
to make sure we put it

9101
04:38:24,100 --> 04:38:27,601
out there. And give them, well,

9102
04:38:28,100 --> 04:38:32,100
we don't have a lot of time.

9103
04:38:32,100 --> 04:38:35,100
Yeah. Any agenda items? Okay.

9104
04:38:36,100 --> 04:38:37,100
And we've got both

9105
04:38:37,100 --> 04:38:39,100
of those noted. Appreciate

9106
04:38:39,100 --> 04:38:40,100
that. Anybody want

9107
04:38:40,100 --> 04:38:42,100
to end the meeting

9108
04:38:42,100 --> 04:38:44,401
with an acknowledgment? Okay.