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That's a good question though.

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We can bring it up

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I would like to call this

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meeting to order at 7 p.m.

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Welcome to the August 24th

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City of Burlingame Planning

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Commission meeting.

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For all in attendance today,

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please note that this

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Planning Commission meeting is

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being held in person and using

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the Zoom webinar format.

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accepting remote public comment

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during commission meetings.

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Agenda item two, roll call.

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Commission should note that all

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members of the commission are

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present this evening.

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Agenda item three, report

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of remote participation.

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Staff, are there any other

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changes to the agenda?

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Are there any recusals?

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Agenda item five, public

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comments non-agenda.

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Members of the public may speak

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to suggest an item

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for a future Planning

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during this public comment

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period.

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The Ralph Brown Act, the state

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local agency open meeting law,

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prohibits the Planning

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on any matter that is not

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Do we have any members

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in person who wish to speak

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on any item that is not

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consent calendar.

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unless separate discussion and

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or action is required

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by the applicant, a member

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of the public,

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or a commissioner prior

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to the time the commission

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votes on the motion

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to adopt.

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This evening, we have one item

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August 10th Planning

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Any member of the public or

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Planning Commission like

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to pull this item

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to approve the minutes from

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August 10th, 2026.

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Did we get a second?

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I have a motion by

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Commissioner Pfaff, seconded

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Will you please have a roll

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call vote?

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Commissioner Horan?

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Commissioner Lowenthal?

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Commissioner Pfaff?

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Vice Chair Schmid?

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Motion passes 5-0-0-0.

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Agenda item 7, action items.

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Conditional Use Permit at 890

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Cowan Road.

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If you are the applicant and

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Zoom, please raise your hand so

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that we may be prepared

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for you to speak

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at the appropriate time.

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we ask that you also turn

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on your video at that time.

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Are any commissioners not able

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to visit the project site?

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note any ex parte

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communications regarding this

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project?

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I would just like to say,

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being completely honest,

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I drove by on the freeway.

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because I do some work

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out there, so drive by.

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Let the record note that all

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commissioners have more or less

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Can we hear the staff report,

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please?

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Good evening, commissioners.

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This subject property is zoned

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as I.I. and is designated as

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I.I. under the general plan.

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Gilbreth and Cowan Road and is

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on a 2.108 acre site.

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multi-tenant commercial

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building with suites A

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through J and 105 surface

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parking spaces are provided.

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hotel to the north, Highway

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to the east and south, and

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within the existing commercial

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building, there is a variety

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of office and warehouse uses.

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on this project.

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permit was approved

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for the existing dance studio

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on site.

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categorized as small scale

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commercial recreation.

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of this year, as you know,

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the zoning code was updated.

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recreation were redefined based

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of the dance studio totaling

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large scale commercial

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recreation, which requires a

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conditional use permit in the

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I.I. zoning district.

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requesting a conditional use

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permit to expand

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from the existing dance studio,

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which occupies suite B

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to the adjacent suite A.

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to do some demolition of walls

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inside the studio and create

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some new partition walls to

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separate new dance studios

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are from 4 to 9 p.m. Monday

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p.m. on Saturdays.

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requirements based on the

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existing uses and finds that

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there isn't actually an excess

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of parking spaces provided of

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the off-street parking

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of the expansion

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of the dance studio,

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you can see the CUP findings

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that this use is compatible and

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meets these findings

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for the following reasons.

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under the general plan,

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complementary commercial

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businesses, including indoor

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recreation facilities such as

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this dance studio,

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are permitted.

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commercial uses that exist

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in the area, and there are uses

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that serve youth such as an

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existing Chinese school and a

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math tutoring center.

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studio are also provided

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primarily outside of hours

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of adjacent businesses,

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so they will not conflict.

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industrial uses that are

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harmful, and as mentioned

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before,

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adequate parking is provided.

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exempt from CEQA per Section

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15301 and Section 15303.

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approval of this CUP

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with the following conditions

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of approval.

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That dance classes are held

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indoors only,

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that the hours are limited

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to what was stated before,

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that the number of students,

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employees,

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and parents and guardians are

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and that the noise requirements

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in the Burlingame Municipal

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Code are complied with.

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Commission adopt a resolution

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approving the CUP

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for the expansion

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of the dance studio.

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Staff is open to questions

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at this time. Thank you.

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Thank you. Any questions

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for staff?

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hearing.

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Will the applicant please come

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forward and state your name and

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anything else you'd like

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guys hear me and see me?

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I'm joining via Zoom. My name

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is Michael Holmes.

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We can see you.

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No, I think that was a

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a well stated

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in terms of a good summary

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of our proposed project. So

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we've been operating

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in this location since 2024.

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for our business. And I kind of

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just foresee our proposal kind

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of aligning with the, you know,

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existing uses in the area. So I

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for the applicant?

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Do we have any members of the

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public attending

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in person who wish to speak

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on this item?

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Please note speakers are

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limited to three

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minutes each. Seeing none. I

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will close the public hearing.

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Any comments?

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I'll go. The use is similar.

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No real changes,

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just an expansion. And I don't

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see any ask that is

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above normal. So I think we

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should forward. I'll make a

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motion that we approve this

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project per the conditions of

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the resolution.

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I'll second that.

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Okay. I have a motion by

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Commissioner Schmid, seconded

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by Commissioner Lowenthal. Any

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discussion on the motion?

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Okay. Maybe please have a roll

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call vote. Commissioner Horan?

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Aye. Commissioner Lowenthal?

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Aye. Commissioner Pfaff?

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Aye. Vice Chair Schmid?

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Aye. Chair Shores?

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Aye. Motion passes 5-0-0-0.

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An action by the Planning

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Commission is appealable

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to the City Council within 10

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days of the Planning

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Commission's action.

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If the Planning Commission's

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action has not been appealed or

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called up for review by the

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City Council by 5 p.m.

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on the 10th day,

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the action becomes final.

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In order to be effective,

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appeals must be in writing and

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must be accompanied

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by an appeal fee as provided

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in the Master Fee Schedule.

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Next item is an Agenda Item

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8, Study Session. Item 8A,

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Major Design Review at 8

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Channing Road.

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This item is being brought

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to the Commission as a study

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item for feedback and comments

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from the Commission.

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After comments, the applicant

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would bring the project back

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when they're ready,

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and thus no motions are

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required at the conclusion

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of the item.

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Were any Commissioners not able

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to visit the project site,

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or do any Commissioners wish to

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note any ex parte communication

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regarding this project?

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Okay. Let the record note that

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all Commissioners present have

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visited the project site.

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Can we hear the staff report,

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please?

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Good evening. Good evening,

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Commissioners.

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This application is for major

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design review and special

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permit for plate height for a

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first floor addition and new

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second story with a detached

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one-car garage.

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The existing property is a

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one-story, 1600 single unit

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dwelling on a 4,899-square-foot

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lot zoned R1.

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The applicant proposes

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to demolish a portion

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of the first floor and add 630

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square feet and a new second

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floor that totals 652 square

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feet. A total of 2,606 square

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feet is proposed, where 2,750

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square feet is the maximum

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allowed.

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The project also proposes

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to increase the plate height

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to 9 feet, where 8 feet 6

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inches is the maximum allowed

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for the second floor. Two

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parking spaces are required.

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One covered parking space is

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provided in the garage and one

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uncovered parking space is

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provided in the driveway.

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The project is subject to seven

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major design review findings

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and four special permit

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findings.

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Items for the Commission

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to consider include consistency

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with the design guidelines,

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compatibility

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with architectural style

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of the existing character,

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respect for the parking garage

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patterns, architectural style

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and consistency

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for the mass and bulk interface

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of adjacent properties,

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landscaping, and compatibility

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with the architectural style

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and character.

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Special permit findings include

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that the project addressed the

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mass and scale that are

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consistent

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with the existing structure,

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roof line, elevations,

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and consistent to the

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residential design guidelines.

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The residential design

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guidebook has nine components.

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Component number five addresses

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mass, bulk, and scale. The

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project should demonstrate mass

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and bulk to harmonize with the

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existing architecture and

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respect to the primary and

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secondary elements.

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While staff finds the proposed

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addition is compatible

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with the zoning regulations,

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staff has concerns

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with the integration

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of the house in regards

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to the mass, bulk, and scale.

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Staff would request the

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Planning Commission provide the

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applicant input regarding the

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project as it relates

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to the applicable criteria for

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design review and special

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permit application.

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I'm available for questions

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from staff. Thank you.

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Questions for staff? Sorry.

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Chair, I'd just also like

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to point out

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we did receive one piece

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of public correspondence from

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the neighbor and that was

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distributed to the Planning

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Commission before the meeting.

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Thank you. Question

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for staff? It's okay. I didn't

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see it, but that's okay.

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I'll just wing it.

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Yeah. So you should have

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received it via email. I

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probably did. I just didn't

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remember to look.

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If the neighbor does not speak

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under public comment,

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I could go through the points

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in the letter so the applicant

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is aware of them and the

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applicant as well. Thank you.

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Any other questions

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for staff? Okay.

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I'll open the public hearing.

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Will the applicant please come

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forward and state your name and

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anything else you'd like

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to add about your project?

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Hi, dear commissioners. I am

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the owner of 8 Channing. I just want

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to say a few words

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about my house.

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The house was built in 1917.

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It was over 110 years old and

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we did remodeling

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on the main house but not

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on the cottage and the garage.

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They are really

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in poor condition. My daughter

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lived in the cottage. The

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cottage is cold

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in wintertime and hot

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in summertime because

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of the insulation.

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There's no electricity cord and

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we had to use electricity cord

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from the main house

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to get electricity. So it's a

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fire hazard problem to us.

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That's the main reason we want

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to rebuild the cottage and the

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garage. Thank you

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for your consideration.

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Thank you.

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Can we have the architect,

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Ken? Yes, I'm here. Hi. Good

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evening, everyone.

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Just regarding the mass

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structure that the reviewer

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comment on the channing site,

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I propose to put a dormer

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to reduce the mass

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of it and also raise the pitch

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of the roof

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to match the existing pitch

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of the roof. So I believe that

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will reduce the mass of the

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elevation facing the channing

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road. Can you hear me? Yes, we

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can hear you.

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Okay. Very good. I'm not sure I

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can share my screen. I have a

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sketch of it.

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Okay. Let me see.

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Okay.

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Ken, you should be able

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to share. Okay. I'm loading my

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screen.

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Are you able to find the share

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button on your screen?

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Uh, I think so. Oh, yeah,

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the share button is not able

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to share.

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Let's see.

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You are a co-host, Ken.

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You should be able to share.

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Perhaps you can just verbally

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describe

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since you are unable to.

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Can I send an email

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to the planner later on?

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For some reason, the button

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that shows screen is unable

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at my screen. Yeah. Well, why

549
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don't you go ahead and describe

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what you... Basically, I will

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put a dormer, it's

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like a gable roof, gable

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dormer, facing channing row

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on top of the entry, not entry,

555
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I mean the doorway.

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If you sharing that...

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Let me see.

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Can I share the picture? I have

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my phone. Oh, yeah, yeah,

560
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yeah. Yeah, Kevin has a picture

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on his phone. I'm sorry. He can

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share it at the screen.

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Sorry about that. Thank you.

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Sorry about that.

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Is there anything else you'd

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like to add about the project

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while we're examining the photo

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on the phone?

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Another thing we would like to

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add is the neighbors talking

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about... There's a two Juliet

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balcony facing the window.

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First of all, you know that

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Juliet balcony is like 20 feet

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away from... More than 20 feet

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away because their setback is

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about 5 feet.

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And the window they mentioned

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about it is a staircase. So we

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are okay to take away,

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remove one of the Juliet

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balcony, but we would like

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to keep another Juliet balcony

584
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at the third bedroom.

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And the other comments

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from neighbor is

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about the tree.

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It's called the... I measured

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it. It's 30 feet away

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from the neighbor's fence.

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So I don't understand why it's

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going to block the sunlight

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to the neighbor.

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That's the second comment

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from the neighbor. Thank you.

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It's 36 feet away

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from the fence. Just share your

598
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,400
phone one more time.

599
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000
I'm sorry? Okay.

600
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Okay. At this time,

601
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000
do we have any questions for

602
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000
the applicant?

603
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000
I have several questions.

604
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Maybe you can help me

605
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000
understand the use of the new

606
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,000
addition because it has a

607
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,000
second front door. So now the

608
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000
house has two front doors,

609
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000
which is usually confusing.

610
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
And it's only bedrooms,

611
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000
so it's not like an ADU.

612
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,400
I understand. The current

613
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,000
existing door is

614
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,000
on the right side. And we have

615
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,000
a front yard.

616
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000
That's the reason why we want

617
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000
to keep that door to access

618
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000
to the front yard,

619
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000
to the side yard on Peninsula

620
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
Street. If you like,

621
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000
we can close it,

622
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,000
but it's more convenient going

623
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000
to access the front yard

624
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000
through that door instead

625
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000
of going around the house.

626
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000
So the new door will be the

627
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000
main front door?

628
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Right. The door in the middle

629
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000
of the house will be the main

630
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000
entrance.

631
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000
And it's bigger than

632
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
from the other door. The main

633
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
reason we want to keep the

634
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000
existing door is because we

635
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
want to get access

636
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000
to the side yard. And we have a

637
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000
pretty decent side yard on

638
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000
Peninsula Street. We just don't

639
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
want to go around the house

640
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000
to go to the side yard.

641
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Yeah, thank you. The bedrooms

642
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000
are rather narrow, 10 and nine

643
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000
and a half feet,

644
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,000
and you're asking

645
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
for a nine-foot plate height,

646
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
which is already would be a

647
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000
variant. So explain why you're

648
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000
asking for a nine-foot ceiling

649
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
height or plate height.

650
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Yeah, I understand it's six

651
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
inches higher than the normal

652
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000
height. My daughter has asthma,

653
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000
so we thought the highest plate

654
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
height would make the airflow

655
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000
better for her.

656
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000
That's the reason why we want

657
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
to increase the height plate

658
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,400
to nine feet high.

659
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000
Ventilation purpose.

660
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,000
They work great. But

661
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000
on the second floor, just as a,

662
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000
you know, you could use

663
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000
coffered ceilings and take

664
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000
advantage of the gable space

665
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000
to make a higher ceiling

666
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
without a higher plate height.

667
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Because of the massing

668
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
challenge with this,

669
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
it would probably be better.

670
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
This is a question,

671
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000
so I won't go on. What's the

672
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,000
use of the long porch

673
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000
on the side of the house?

674
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Because it's too narrow to be a

675
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,000
deck and the stairs are rather

676
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
steep. So I don't understand

677
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
the use for a full width porch.

678
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,000
That's only four feet wide.

679
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,000
It's not that narrow. I think

680
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
it's five feet wide.

681
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000
At this point, five feet wide,

682
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000
we can put our shoes there and

683
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
some kind of storage spaces

684
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
for us to go

685
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000
to the garage and side

686
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,000
of the yard.

687
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000
And then the windows.

688
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000
There are a lot of windows

689
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,000
for bedrooms and full kind

690
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,000
of sliding doors,

691
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
which is unusual

692
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
for a bedroom. So is there a

693
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000
rationale for having the

694
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
original design?

695
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
Now the sketch is different,

696
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,000
but the original design has a

697
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000
full sliding door, Juliet

698
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000
balcony facing Channing.

699
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,400
We like natural light.

700
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,000
That's the reason we have so

701
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
many windows.

702
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,600
Yeah, we have a sliding door

703
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000
in the bedroom as well as

704
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,600
in the stand. We thought it

705
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
would be better

706
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000
to have natural light

707
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000
in those two rooms.

708
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,600
Okay. And the current use is

709
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000
just one small bedroom and now

710
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000
you're installing three

711
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000
bedrooms.

712
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
So is it going to be the same

713
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000
use or a different use?

714
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Right now we have three

715
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
bedrooms, two

716
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000
in the main house and one

717
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000
in the cottage. So we are

718
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,000
tearing down the cottage. We

719
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000
want two more bedrooms because

720
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,000
we want our parents to move in.

721
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,000
My parents, they live in

722
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Chinatown

723
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,000
in a small tiny room. They took

724
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000
care of me and my children when

725
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000
they were young and we wanted

726
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,600
them to live with us. Great.

727
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Yeah, that's the reason why we

728
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000
want to have two more bedrooms

729
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000
in this residence. Thank you.

730
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000
Thank you. Any other questions

731
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,000
for the applicant?

732
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000
Yeah, I have a couple

733
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
of questions. On the elevations

734
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,000
you show all new vinyl windows,

735
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,000
but on the window schedule it

736
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
says aluminum.

737
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000
They are all vinyl. I thought

738
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
we changed them. Right now we

739
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000
have vinyl windows. I thought

740
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000
we changed from aluminum

741
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000
to vinyl. I just want

742
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
to clarify because it had both

743
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000
on there. So you're saying

744
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000
they're all going

745
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,000
to be vinyl?

746
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
Yes, it will be. Yeah, even the

747
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000
addition, the new addition,

748
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
they all will be vinyl windows.

749
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000
Are you changing

750
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000
out all the windows

751
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
of the house?

752
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000
The current house has vinyl

753
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000
windows. But you're going

754
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000
to keep them?

755
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,000
Yes. Okay. And then it says

756
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000
you're going to have new cement

757
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000
fiber siding.

758
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,000
Are you sure the existing

759
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000
siding is fiber cement? A

760
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,600
portion is wood and a portion

761
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,400
is cement right now.

762
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Now, the side toward the

763
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000
peninsula is cement because

764
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
when we bought the house,

765
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
we made improvement

766
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
on that side. We replaced all

767
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
the siding. Those are cement

768
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
siding.

769
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
And on the channing side, a

770
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,000
portion is cement and a portion

771
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000
is wood.

772
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,600
For the new addition, we are

773
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,400
proposing using cement siding.

774
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000
So would any of the existing

775
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000
wood siding remain or would it

776
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
all be?

777
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000
We're not making any changes

778
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,000
to the existing main house.

779
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,000
So you could have some cement

780
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,000
siding and wood siding?

781
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Yeah. Okay.

782
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000
And then on the northeast

783
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,000
elevation, you have the stucco

784
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000
on the lower section

785
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,000
intersecting

786
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
with the existing, I guess,

787
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000
is that the cement siding?

788
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Cement siding will be

789
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000
on the second floor.

790
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,000
On the first floor.

791
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
So I'm thinking

792
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000
of the first floor right now.

793
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,000
You have the existing home,

794
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000
which has, I guess, cement

795
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,000
siding, or I don't know if

796
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000
that's the cement or the wood.

797
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000
A cement siding.

798
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000
And then you have the new

799
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000
addition

800
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000
with the stucco hitting that.

801
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000
What is that transition going

802
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
to be?

803
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000
It's between the kitchen and

804
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000
the new addition.

805
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Yeah, I understand the

806
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000
location. How are you going to

807
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,000
transition the two materials

808
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000
together?

809
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Uh, Ken, can you answer that

810
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000
question? I'm not a technical

811
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,000
person. Sorry.

812
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000
It currently doesn't count.

813
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Yeah.

814
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Yeah, go ahead.

815
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000
We can do a three-inch reveal

816
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000
to transition the stucco. This

817
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
is a request by the owner.

818
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
For some reason, I don't know

819
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
if he wants the stucco to be

820
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
on that side particularly.

821
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Do you have a particular

822
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
reason, Kevin?

823
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,000
Yeah, I look at my neighbor's

824
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
house next door. They have

825
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
stucco on the bottom floor,

826
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400
and then cement board

827
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
on the second floor. I want

828
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,000
to match to their house.

829
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Kevin, just

830
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
like the neighbor's house.

831
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Yeah, I understand. And I'm not

832
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,000
trying to comment here yet,

833
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
but the question is,

834
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
of course, how do you

835
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
transition those so it doesn't

836
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000
look like you just attached an

837
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
addition onto a 100-year-old

838
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
home? So I'll address that

839
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000
again in comments,

840
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
but thank you.

841
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
And then my last comment or

842
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000
question is,

843
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
on that same lower roof

844
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000
of the stucco addition,

845
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
how does that intersecting

846
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
with the existing roof line?

847
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,000
It looks like they're

848
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
at the same plane, but they're

849
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
slightly different dimensions.

850
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
How do those, how does that-

851
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Can you clarify that part,

852
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,000
please?

853
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,000
I'm sorry?

854
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,000
You're talking

855
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,000
about the roof line?

856
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Yeah, the lower roof line

857
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000
that's over the, that's

858
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000
below the new addition on the

859
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000
northeast elevation and then

860
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000
where that intersects

861
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000
with the existing roof line.

862
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
It seems

863
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
to be either very slightly

864
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
close to that roof line or just

865
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
slightly off. I'm just curious

866
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000
of how you're going to resolve

867
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
that transition. I'm sorry.

868
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Are you talking

869
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
about that area? Because

870
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
there's a rear side setback

871
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,000
limitation for that. So that's

872
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,000
why we have to reset that part

873
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
and then we create a roof

874
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,000
on top of it. Am I answering

875
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
your question?

876
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
I believe so. Okay. All right.

877
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,400
That's it. Thank you.

878
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Any other questions?

879
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Questions.

880
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Right.

881
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
So on that same face,

882
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,000
the one that's along

883
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Channing, I was wondering

884
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000
about the, I mean,

885
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
what we're commenting

886
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000
on is what's in front of us,

887
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
not what was on the phone,

888
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000
but the gable that is

889
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
over the,

890
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000
that second entrance. Is it

891
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000
right now, it's just kind

892
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
of coming out and held up

893
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000
by corbels or something. So

894
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000
it's just by itself kind

895
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000
of hanging there, right?

896
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Actually, if you look

897
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
at the sketch that Kevin just

898
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
shared with you, that gable

899
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,400
at the entrance looked

900
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
like the overhang. We removed

901
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
that. We pushed that gable up

902
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
to the roof line

903
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
to create more

904
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
of the dormer feature of it.

905
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Right. But then, yeah,

906
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000
I get that. But then it's a

907
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
pretty long stretch there down

908
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
to the bottom. I think that has

909
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000
to really be drawn

910
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
out properly for us to. We'll

911
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
take that away already. That

912
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
gable is no longer there.

913
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Okay. And I also had the

914
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
question about the transition,

915
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
the transition between the old

916
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
house and the newer section.

917
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Because I guess you like the,

918
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
your client, you

919
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000
like the stucco

920
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
on the bottom. You mentioned

921
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
that. But your, the old house,

922
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,600
had that, have you done any

923
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,600
new, is your siding new there

924
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000
as well? It's all new? The

925
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
siding, some

926
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
of those siding are new. We

927
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,000
paste them. But what about the

928
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
piece that abuts the stucco?

929
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Is that also new?

930
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
The very end of the,

931
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000
on that same face that's

932
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,000
running along Channing? So you

933
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,600
got that right where the house

934
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,000
is. Is it possible

935
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
to pull up the renderings for

936
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000
the new real quick so we can

937
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,000
both just make sure we're

938
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
looking at the same thing?

939
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Thank you. Yeah. So if I'm

940
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
looking at that, I'm looking

941
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,000
at the gable on the, over the

942
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000
door that I was just talking

943
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000
about, directly to the right,

944
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
there's the old house. I'm

945
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000
going to call it old house.

946
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,000
And it is,

947
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
has wood or siding that is,

948
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,000
is that new? Did you put new

949
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,000
siding on? Or is it the old

950
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
siding? The top one,

951
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000
they are wood siding.

952
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,000
They are old.

953
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000
The bottom one, above,

954
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000
underneath the window,

955
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000
those are new cement for

956
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
siding.

957
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
I don't think I understand.

958
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Are you saying, sorry,

959
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
oh look. They were replaced.

960
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Yeah, they were replaced.

961
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Partially replaced. Yes.

962
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Okay. And then I guess I wanted

963
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
to ask about the cantilever. I

964
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
also had a question

965
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,000
about the need

966
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,000
for the height,

967
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
that more heights than what we

968
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
allow, but you answered that.

969
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
The cantilever

970
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000
on the second floor, what is,

971
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,600
why do you need the cantilever?

972
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,000
It's just to have more space.

973
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
The cantilever

974
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000
on your second,

975
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000
the second floor hangs over the

976
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600
stucco section quite a bit. So

977
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
do you- Just break the mass.

978
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Is it a good answer?

979
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,000
I'm sorry,

980
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,000
I didn't understand. Just break

981
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,000
the mass of the channel, you

982
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
know, of the street.

983
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,000
So we can have almost

984
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000
like overhang, like almost

985
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,000
like a very local thing,

986
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000
we catch some shadow.

987
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000
So it won't look

988
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
at the wall as one piece

989
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
of wall. It look

990
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000
like two pieces.

991
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Let's break the mass.

992
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Break the mass. Am I answering

993
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
your questions? Yeah, I guess

994
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,000
so. It just looks, makes it

995
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
look even bigger than it is.

996
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
And then,

997
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
and then I have a question

998
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000
about the decision

999
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,000
about the window. Well, not

1000
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,000
really window sizes,

1001
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,000
but kind of. You have a,

1002
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,000
so you have the balcony there

1003
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
with the sliding door. I'm

1004
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
looking at the Channing side

1005
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,600
still. So I missed what you

1006
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000
said.

1007
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Did you, were you saying you

1008
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
wanted to keep

1009
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,000
that balcony and get

1010
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
rid of the other or vice versa?

1011
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000
In fact, that Kevin has my new

1012
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,200
sketch on his phone. We put a

1013
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,000
two smaller window to the,

1014
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600
toward the left side of that,

1015
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
of the new section.

1016
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000
And we actually create a,

1017
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
put the balcony side

1018
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,000
to the right, to the middle,

1019
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000
right on top

1020
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000
of the entrance.

1021
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Commissioner Pfaff, if I may

1022
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000
very briefly. And the applicant

1023
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
has a new sketch. I also know

1024
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000
that that has not been

1025
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
presented to the commission.

1026
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,000
So you may speak

1027
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,000
to it if you have something

1028
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000
to say about it,

1029
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,000
but that is not really part of

1030
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,000
the record or what the

1031
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
commission is open,

1032
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
I thought.

1033
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Right. Then I'm going

1034
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,000
to jump right

1035
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
to the last question. Was there

1036
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
a reason, I noticed

1037
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,000
on the front of the house,

1038
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,000
you seem to have, I don't know

1039
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
if it's their original or they

1040
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
were copied

1041
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,000
from the original. You do have

1042
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
some divided lights

1043
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
in the front, in the, in the

1044
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
side that faces peninsula. So

1045
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,600
it looks kind of more right.

1046
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
Yeah. So have you considered

1047
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
on this side, so it kind

1048
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,000
of all comes together better,

1049
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000
some divided lights? I guess

1050
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000
that's the way I would say.

1051
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000
On your, you have lots of,

1052
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
we do have a light over there.

1053
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Sorry? We do have a light

1054
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
over there.

1055
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
What's a better way

1056
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
to say that? Just partitioned

1057
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
grids, grids, grids, grids

1058
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,000
on the window. Yeah, gritted

1059
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000
windows, because, you know,

1060
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
you have this 1917 house,

1061
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000
which is quite darling.

1062
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
And then you have this other

1063
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000
one. And the idea is that they

1064
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
look as, I think the idea is

1065
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,000
that they look at one,

1066
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
that they were, right,

1067
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
one thing. And so did you

1068
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
consider putting the grids that

1069
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000
you have on the front

1070
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000
of the house, bringing them

1071
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
around the side, so it kind

1072
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,000
of pulls all together? Have you

1073
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,000
considered that rather than all

1074
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,600
these much more modern, I think,

1075
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
more modern looking than the

1076
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
age of the house? Sorry, we

1077
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
never thought about it. We work

1078
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
with that in consideration.

1079
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Thank you

1080
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000
for your suggestion. It's just,

1081
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
it was just a question.

1082
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
We can only ask questions. All

1083
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000
right. Thank you. Yeah. Any

1084
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
other questions?

1085
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,000
I had one more clarifying

1086
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000
question. It looked

1087
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
like when I drove by,

1088
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000
there's an existing chimney

1089
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
in the roof, but

1090
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000
on all these plans, there's no

1091
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,000
chimney, but I noticed the

1092
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,000
fireplace is still

1093
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000
on the plan. We do have a

1094
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000
fireplace. And a chimney?

1095
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Yes. Okay. And the plan is

1096
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
to keep the chimney?

1097
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Yes. Okay. It is

1098
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
in the main house. Yes.

1099
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Correct. Okay. Yeah. Sorry,

1100
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
it's not showing up

1101
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000
on the picture. Yeah, just

1102
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000
clarifying. Thank you. Yeah.

1103
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
So we're not touching the main

1104
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
house at all.

1105
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000
We are just tearing down the

1106
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000
cottage and rebuild a two-story

1107
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
building.

1108
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Right. Any sounds

1109
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
like we're no more questions

1110
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
for the applicant? Okay. If

1111
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000
that's the case, I will go

1112
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000
ahead and close the public

1113
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
hearing. Thank you

1114
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,000
for being available

1115
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000
to answer your questions.

1116
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Thank you. Commissioners,

1117
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000
comments? Don't you have

1118
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,000
to ask for public comment?

1119
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Oh, no one's here, but. That's

1120
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
right. Okay. Anyone attending

1121
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,000
in person who would like

1122
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,600
to speak on this item? Okay.

1123
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Just in case. In that case, now

1124
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I will close the public

1125
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
hearing. Okay. Thank you.

1126
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Commissioners, comments? Can I

1127
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000
go? Yes. Okay. This design looks

1128
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
like two totally separate

1129
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
houses with two front doors and

1130
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
three different sets

1131
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
of windows, two different sets

1132
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000
of siding.

1133
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
This is not a cohesive

1134
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000
project. And so I think that

1135
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,000
you need to look at it in 3D

1136
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,400
because the elevations don't,

1137
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
are not helping the design

1138
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000
at all. I would, I liked, you

1139
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
know, what I did see

1140
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,000
of the sketch, it's moving

1141
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
in the right direction.

1142
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Cause I was going to

1143
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,000
propose that you actually

1144
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
switch the roof 90 degrees and

1145
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
have the gable end facing

1146
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Channing, and then maybe do a

1147
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
smaller, dormer or pop out

1148
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,400
gable facing the other

1149
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
direction so that your pop

1150
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
out looks like a pop out and

1151
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
not just a much bigger mass

1152
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,000
on top. I, I don't think that

1153
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
the stucco is a good idea at

1154
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,000
all. I understand what you're

1155
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
saying cause I did see your

1156
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000
neighbor's home,

1157
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
but I think given that,

1158
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
given the look of this house,

1159
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000
there is no stucco there now.

1160
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
So introducing stucco on the

1161
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
addition just makes it look

1162
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
more like a second house. I

1163
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,400
would highly suggest keeping

1164
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000
the two existing doors you have

1165
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
into the old house and not

1166
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
trying to do a new door into

1167
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000
the new house because it looks

1168
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000
like a new house.

1169
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
And I would actually then

1170
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000
suggest doing a belly band, at,

1171
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
at 10 feet or so, lining

1172
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000
with the gutters so that you

1173
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
then could get, your wall

1174
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,400
surface wouldn't be so

1175
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,000
vertical. The belly band would

1176
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000
break up the materials, help

1177
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
give you two distinct floors

1178
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
of scale. And then wrapping it

1179
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,600
around the back side would then

1180
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
give you something to,

1181
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
some additional trim

1182
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
to make the pop out work and

1183
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
your overhang there.

1184
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
I think that the Juliette

1185
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,600
doors are too big. We don't

1186
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
really see those very often.

1187
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,000
And I would, I would,

1188
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
there's other ways

1189
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,000
to bring light in,

1190
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
without them being big doors.

1191
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
And you, and I think

1192
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
that the question

1193
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
of the windows is a good one

1194
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,000
and it's hard because I know

1195
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000
you're trying to not tear

1196
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
down the existing house,

1197
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
but unfortunately in order

1198
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
to start to make this look

1199
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000
like one house, you might have

1200
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,000
to make some investments. So it

1201
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
may be that the siding,

1202
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
you just need

1203
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
to bite the bullet. And if you

1204
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
want to go with the cement

1205
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
siding all the way around,

1206
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000
fine, you can make that work.

1207
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
But I think keeping the

1208
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
combination

1209
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
of the cement siding

1210
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
on one side and the wood

1211
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
on the other, and then trying

1212
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
to come into stucco is going

1213
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,400
to be a mess.

1214
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
I don't think it's going

1215
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
to work. The other thing is as

1216
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,000
I think keeping the front door

1217
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
or the second door on that,

1218
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
Channing elevation will mean

1219
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,400
less infill and less

1220
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
siding that you can't match.

1221
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Let's see where else was I. I

1222
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
think that the garage is better

1223
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000
off with the siding. I don't

1224
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
think that, I just don't think

1225
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
stucco adds value to you here

1226
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
from a design perspective.

1227
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,000
The, yes, and I really

1228
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000
would encourage your 3d, we'll

1229
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000
help you guys see and design a

1230
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
little bit further on how well

1231
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,000
to bring the two together.

1232
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,000
When I first saw the

1233
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,000
elevation, it was,

1234
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000
it killed me. And so I actually

1235
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,000
modeled it in 3d for myself so

1236
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
that I could understand how the

1237
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000
shapes were coming together

1238
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
because I didn't want

1239
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,000
to come here and just say,

1240
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,000
I don't like it. I wanted

1241
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,000
to come here with feedback

1242
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000
from what I would want

1243
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
to do if it were my project.

1244
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000
And so I'm hoping that some of

1245
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
these suggestions will help so

1246
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
that then the next time you

1247
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,000
guys come forward, we're able

1248
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,000
to actually make a decision on

1249
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,000
the action and not then just

1250
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
start over

1251
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
with a whole new set

1252
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
of comments. So I'm hoping that

1253
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
I was helpful. Thank you.

1254
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Other comments? Yeah. Thank you

1255
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
for saving this old house. I

1256
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
think it's, it's great

1257
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,000
to see that you're trying

1258
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
to renovate it,

1259
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
but we do want the new house

1260
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
to look cohesive and not

1261
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000
like this was an add on that

1262
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
doesn't fit the existing. It

1263
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,000
currently looks kind of

1264
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
like a caboose, you know,

1265
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,000
caboose at the end

1266
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,000
of a train. so I agree with,

1267
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
everything my fellow

1268
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,000
commissioner said. I think he

1269
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000
has a clever idea on, maybe not

1270
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
building a second front

1271
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
entrance, because it strikes me

1272
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,000
that you also have an entrance

1273
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
that's facing the garage,

1274
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
going into that new den,

1275
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
with that double slider. So you

1276
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,000
have a lot of doors in and out

1277
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
of a very small space, but it

1278
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
might help pull that elevation

1279
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,000
together if you don't have two

1280
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000
main entrances. this house is

1281
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
one where I think not only

1282
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,000
don't you need a nine foot

1283
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,000
plate height, but you might

1284
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
consider an eight foot plate

1285
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
height and then use a coffered

1286
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,000
ceiling to take advantage

1287
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,000
of the gable space.

1288
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,000
So interior, it'll be a higher

1289
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,000
ceiling, but the exterior will

1290
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
read lower and it won't be as

1291
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
much of a vertical. I

1292
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
like the idea of, rotating the

1293
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,000
roof or the sketch looks

1294
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
like it's going

1295
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,000
in the right direction as well,

1296
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
but I would lower that roof

1297
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,000
line even more. For me, the

1298
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,400
window, there's too many

1299
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
windows, bedrooms, you know,

1300
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
there's a privacy issue.

1301
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
In addition to light,

1302
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,000
you could consider clerestory,

1303
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
which a lot of clients or

1304
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
folks are using,

1305
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
which gives light at the top,

1306
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
but gives plenty of wall space

1307
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
for flexibility on where you

1308
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
put furniture. I don't, love

1309
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
the side porch. I think it

1310
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
should either be a porch

1311
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
that's, you know,

1312
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,000
six or eight feet wide,

1313
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
but not the full width

1314
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
of the, the house. It, it seems

1315
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,000
like you'll need, railings

1316
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
in the middle for that from a

1317
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,400
safety perspective. And yeah,

1318
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,000
the overhang on that left side

1319
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,000
of the house is also doesn't

1320
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
work for me. It's, I'd almost

1321
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,000
rather that the house,

1322
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
that the column goes all the

1323
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
way to the edge of the house,

1324
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
and not have that kind

1325
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
of pergola detail. It just,

1326
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,000
it's, it feels disjointed

1327
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
to me. I agree with,

1328
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,400
wrapping the whole house

1329
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
in a, in a cohesive,

1330
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
clapboard. And if you want

1331
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000
to use the, the cement board,

1332
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000
that's fine. But to have all of

1333
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400
these different surfaces is

1334
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
going to make the,

1335
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000
the project look

1336
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400
like a mishmash. Some

1337
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
of the materials are,

1338
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,000
are cheap and I think in

1339
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Burlingame, you really want

1340
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,000
to invest

1341
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
in higher quality materials.

1342
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,000
So I understand your existing

1343
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
house has vinyl windows. We

1344
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000
typically don't like vinyl

1345
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000
windows unless they're a high

1346
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
end, product. So, work

1347
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000
with your architect

1348
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,000
on that. I noticed the railings

1349
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,000
on the, on the porches are

1350
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000
aluminum railings. Those tend

1351
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,200
to look not very nice. So just

1352
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000
pay attention to those details

1353
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,000
and you'll have a much nicer,

1354
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
more, valuable house. The

1355
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
chimney is going

1356
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
to be a problem,

1357
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,000
because you didn't show it,

1358
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000
but now you have a,

1359
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
now you have an,

1360
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,000
an addition that's

1361
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
above the chimney.

1362
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000
So likely you'll have

1363
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,000
to extend the chimney above the

1364
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,000
addition and now you're going

1365
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,000
to have a pretty tall,

1366
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000
chimney just stand, you know,

1367
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000
in the middle of space. So

1368
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,000
you'll want to look

1369
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,000
at that closely, I think.

1370
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000
If it's, if it's gas,

1371
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,000
then it's a different story.

1372
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,000
But if it's a wood fireplace,

1373
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,000
that I don't think that will

1374
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
work from a code perspective.

1375
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Yeah, I think that's it.

1376
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Any other comments?

1377
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Yeah, I, I agree. I think it's,

1378
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Commissioner Schmid has a very

1379
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,000
interesting idea and, would be,

1380
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000
I, I can also picture,

1381
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000
definitely picture something

1382
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000
like that. I agree that the

1383
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
other sketch was a start. I

1384
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,000
think, though, in order to,

1385
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
for it to be looking like a,

1386
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
a cohesive building that came,

1387
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
you know, ideally it was built

1388
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,000
at the same time as the wall. I

1389
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000
think, I think it would really

1390
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000
be helpful to put that, to face

1391
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
it the other direction towards

1392
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
the gable towards

1393
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Channing and all the other

1394
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
comments.

1395
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,000
I agree completely. So, so it's

1396
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
probably overwhelming

1397
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,000
to hear all this, but that's

1398
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
why this was pulled up in,

1399
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000
in the past. This would have

1400
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000
gone probably

1401
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
to a design reviewer,

1402
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,000
off site. So we're trying the

1403
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,000
best we can to help you. And

1404
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000
fortunately, we have a lot of

1405
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,000
knowledgeable people here who

1406
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
can help you. So we hope,

1407
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,400
that's it. Thank you.

1408
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Any comments?

1409
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Yeah, not too much because,

1410
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,000
everything that my fellow

1411
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,000
commissioner said was, spot

1412
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,000
on and I agree,

1413
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
agree wholeheartedly.

1414
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Cohesion is the word

1415
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,000
of the night. I think,

1416
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000
that's really what you have

1417
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
to try to go

1418
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,000
for is how do we make, as

1419
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Commissioner Pfaff said, look

1420
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,000
like this was the original

1421
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,000
intent of the construction

1422
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
from a hundred years ago.

1423
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Cause I do appreciate the fact

1424
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000
that you're trying

1425
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000
to save the house. That is

1426
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000
really nice to do as opposed

1427
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
to tearing it down, which a lot

1428
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000
of people will do. So we really

1429
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
appreciate that, but we need it

1430
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,000
to be cohesive. We want it to

1431
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000
look nice. and as commissioner

1432
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Horan said, we do live in

1433
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000
Burlingame and people do

1434
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
invest in nice materials,

1435
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,000
whether it be in the windows or

1436
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
the siding or the roofs or

1437
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,000
whatever the details,

1438
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
it doesn't mean you have

1439
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
to overspend, but it just,

1440
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,000
it has to look like it's

1441
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,000
supposed to be there.

1442
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
And that can sometimes cost

1443
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
a little bit more money than

1444
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
you may want to spend. The only

1445
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
other thing I would tell you

1446
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,000
is, forgo going to a structural

1447
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,000
engineer. I noticed these plans

1448
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,000
had a full set of structural

1449
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,000
engineering plans, which I, I,

1450
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
I feel bad because

1451
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
unfortunately that a lot

1452
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
of that's going to have

1453
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,000
to be changed. So I would

1454
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,000
highly recommend you go

1455
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,000
through this process with the

1456
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,000
planning commission first,

1457
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,000
get an approved plan,

1458
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000
and then send it off

1459
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,000
to your engineers

1460
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,000
before spending the money

1461
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
with them. Because again, we

1462
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
can't approve it the way it is

1463
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,000
today.

1464
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,000
So there are going to be some

1465
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000
fundamental changes that will

1466
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,000
change the structure. So it's

1467
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
just a word of advice. I did

1468
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,400
forget one comment, related

1469
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
to the, letter that we

1470
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
received.

1471
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,000
I don't have a problem,

1472
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,000
because the house is so far

1473
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,000
away from the, the lot line.

1474
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,000
We have houses that are four

1475
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
feet away and eight feet away

1476
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,000
with a driveway. This is 20

1477
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000
plus feet. So I don't,

1478
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000
I don't have a problem with

1479
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,000
that other than my statement

1480
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
that the windows are too big

1481
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,000
in general.

1482
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
But in terms of sight lines

1483
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,000
to the neighbor,

1484
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,000
that's not concerned

1485
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
with mine.

1486
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,000
But it might be fair to say

1487
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
to the neighbor that this,

1488
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,000
this is not a view area

1489
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
with any protected views. So

1490
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,000
the request for story poles or

1491
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,000
solar is not really what would

1492
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
happen in a location

1493
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
like this. And, and as was said

1494
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
earlier, the tree locations are

1495
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
actually significantly further

1496
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,000
away.

1497
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,000
And it were any other

1498
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
configuration

1499
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,000
without the garage being there,

1500
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,000
I would actually say plant more

1501
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
trees. Yeah. But, that's the

1502
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
way it is right now.

1503
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
I just want

1504
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,000
to say one quick comment

1505
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000
about cohesiveness. So if we

1506
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,000
just took the old house away

1507
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
and we're just looking

1508
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,000
at the new part, we would

1509
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,000
still, I think,

1510
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,000
be saying the same thing.

1511
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,000
The new is not

1512
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,000
in itself is not cohesive. So

1513
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,000
take the, the old section away,

1514
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
just what is drawn,

1515
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,000
that probably wouldn't have

1516
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,000
gone through here very easily

1517
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,000
either. So, anyway, it just,

1518
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,600
just to rework, redo. Right. I

1519
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,600
would just like to add two,

1520
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,000
well, add one and a half quick

1521
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
things. I'd like to iterate,

1522
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,000
reiterate a previous comment

1523
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
about, windows with grids.

1524
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000
I don't think we mentioned it

1525
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,000
in our specific comment,

1526
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,000
comment portion, but perhaps,

1527
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
taking a window that's already

1528
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
there and replacing it

1529
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
with one that are,

1530
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,000
have grids that kind of relate

1531
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,000
to the one on the primary

1532
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,000
facade or the one facing

1533
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
peninsula, that might add a lot

1534
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,000
of cohesiveness

1535
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,000
to the structure

1536
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,000
without having to do a lot

1537
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
of other reconfigurations.

1538
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Just wanted

1539
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,000
to make sure that was mentioned

1540
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,000
in the comment portion. Thank

1541
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,000
you. And the other thing I did

1542
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,000
want to mention is, I noticed

1543
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
on the site plan, it looks

1544
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000
like the current configuration

1545
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
of the fences does not change

1546
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,000
with the addition

1547
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
of the new primary, entrance.

1548
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,000
It might make it easier to

1549
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,000
understand the primary entrance

1550
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
as we're walking around.

1551
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,000
If the opening

1552
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000
for the current primary

1553
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,000
entrance down by peninsula was

1554
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
relocated and that kind of,

1555
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,000
so that you're kind of led

1556
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
into it as you're walking by,

1557
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
I'm, that might've come

1558
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,000
out later in the process,

1559
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,000
but I didn't see

1560
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,000
on the site plan.

1561
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,000
So I just wanted

1562
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,000
to mention that pretty simple.

1563
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,000
But I think everything else has

1564
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,000
already been covered that I

1565
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000
would have mentioned. Any

1566
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
other comments?

1567
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Okay. As I, as I said,

1568
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
we are not making a motion

1569
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
on this. So, all right. Thank

1570
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000
you very much

1571
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
for coming tonight. Thank you.

1572
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
all right. So moving on

1573
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,400
to agenda item nine,

1574
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
staff and commission reports.

1575
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Are there any commissioner

1576
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,000
reports?

1577
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Okay. Staff, do we have

1578
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
anything to share? Yes.

1579
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Thank you chair or as a member

1580
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,000
of the planning commission,

1581
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,000
just would like to let you know

1582
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,000
that we did receive an appeal

1583
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
of the planning commission's

1584
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,400
approval of the project

1585
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
at 410 Airport Boulevard.

1586
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,000
That appeal was filed

1587
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,400
by a council member.

1588
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,000
So that'll be scheduled

1589
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
for a council hearing and

1590
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,000
at some point in the

1591
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,000
near future at a date

1592
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,000
to be determined. And then

1593
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,400
for our next meeting,

1594
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,000
which is scheduled for

1595
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,600
September 14th, if we have a

1596
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
meeting, on that date,

1597
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,000
it'll be to consider a,

1598
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000
application for a new building

1599
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
on Channing, road where,

1600
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
excuse me, not Channing, Chapin

1601
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
where the Chase Bank is.

1602
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,400
So we are meeting

1603
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400
with the applicant tomorrow

1604
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,000
to get out some final details,

1605
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,000
to address fire district,

1606
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,000
concerns, fire department

1607
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
concerns, and if we're able

1608
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,000
to work through those,

1609
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000
we'll have it

1610
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,000
on the next agenda. Otherwise

1611
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,000
it'll likely go

1612
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000
to the second meeting in

1613
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,000
September. So there's a good

1614
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,000
chance we will not have a

1615
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,000
meeting September 14th.

1616
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
And I'd just like

1617
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,000
to add that if you do,

1618
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,000
I won't be there. Okay. Thanks

1619
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,000
for the heads up. What did you

1620
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,000
say that you will? If we had

1621
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
one on the 14th. Oh, okay. Got

1622
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
it. Got it. Okay. If

1623
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
there's nothing else to share

1624
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000
on the commissioner's side or

1625
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,000
the staff side, then I can say

1626
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000
the meeting is adjourned

1627
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,400
at 7:55 PM. Thank you.

1628
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Thank you.