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Our first order of business tonight is
uh swearing in of a new commissioner by
our planning manager, Mr. Mike Morosula.
Um, Alex Ramner. If you want to um
join Mr. Morosula over by
[clears throat] the end.
» Thank you, chair.
So, here's the oath. Um, you're going to
repeat after me.
» Um, [clears throat]
and then we'll sign it afterward. So,
» I, Alex Raminer,
» I, Alex Ramner,
» S do solemnly swear
» Do solemnly swear
» That I will support the Constitution of
the United States
» That I will support the Constitution of
the United States
» And the state of Minnesota
» And the state of Minnesota. I and
faithfully and will discharge the duties
as a member of the Burnsville comm
planning commission and the city of
Burnsville.
» And faithfully will discharge the duties
as a member of the Burnsville planning
commission and the city of Burnsville.
» In the county of Dakota and the state of
Minnesota
» In the county of Dakota and the state of
Minnesota.
» To the best of my judgment and ability.
» So help me God.
» Thank you. Congratulations.
» Thank you. Just sign right there. Sure.
Awesome.
Beautiful. Thank you.
» Welcome.
» Thanks.
» Beautiful. Welcome.
» I find a lot of joy in serving and I
hope you do, too.
» All right. Our next order of business
tonight is the election of chair and
vice chair of the planning commission.
Um, I'll first accept nominations for
the chair of the planning commission.
Um, so at this time I can
um
open up the floor for nominations.
» Brad.
» All right, we have one nomination.
» I second that.
» All in favor?
» I
All right. I really appreciate the
opportunity to continue to serve. It's
been a lot of fun for me. So we'll look
forward to the next year.
All right, with that we will move on to
nominations for the vice chair of the
planning commission. Again, I will open
up the floor for nominations.
» Any nominations?
» I'll nominate Mr. Anderson as vice
chair.
» Beautiful. Any other nominations?
» I don't think we can with an alternate.
I apologize.
Yeah.
» So, I would say we can't, but I do like
the strategy, but unfortunately, we
cannot appoint the alternate at this
time to a position.
» Well,
» I nominate John Ham.
» There we go.
» Thank you.
» There we go.
» Any other nominations?
» I'll second that, though.
» All in favor say I.
» I. Oppos say nay.
» All right. Dang John for not being here,
but congratulations to him. Yeah,
» We'll have to let him know when he comes
back.
» Always show up.
» All right,
our third topic tonight is the adoption
of the agenda. Uh, have we had an
opportunity to review the agenda?
And can I get a motion
to accept the agenda?
» Move the adopt agenda.
» Second that.
» All those in favor say I. I.
» Opposed. Motion carries.
Uh, commissioners, have you had an
opportunity to uh review the minutes
from our June 8th meeting? Um, and can I
get a motion to approve those minutes?
» Make a motion to approve the minutes
from June 8th, 2026.
» Can I get a second?
» Second.
» All in favor say I.
» I.
» All right. Rock and rolling.
Our um fifth topic on the agenda tonight
is a public hearing for the application
of Boer Boer
» Sasser
» Sasser. Thank you.
» Basser Automotive requesting a zoning
ordinance amendment, planned unit
development and conditional use permit
to allow a minor automotive repair
business and associated outdoor storage
and chain link fence with slats at 14801
County Road 5. being presented by Kira
Chapman, our associate planner.
» Thank you, chair, for that introduction.
Um, yes, today we are going to talk
about the application for Besser
Automotive requesting a zoning ordinance
amendment PUD CUP to allow a minor
automotive repair business and
associated outdoor storage and chain
link fence with slats at 14 801 County
Road 5.
Uh the lefth hand image is an aerial
screenshot of the subject property and
the right hand is a zoning map. Uh the
right hand image highlights the subject
property in red. Um and that subject
property is in a pink purple color
representing the B2 neighborhood
business district
which is guided as a B US uh business
retail office in the 2040 comprehensive
plan. And to the south in a darker
yellow color is the R2 two family
residential district. Um and the lighter
yellow color to the north and the east
are the one family residential district.
Uh both the R1 and the R2 are LDR which
is low density residential in the 2040
comp plan. And directly across across
county road five in the gray color is
the R4 highdensity residential district
um and is guided as HDR uh highdensity
residential and that is South Cross
Village a multifamily uh residential um
complex and in the green is uh North
View Park um directly south of that.
The applicant is requesting uh three
requests. One is for a zoning ordinance
amendment to allow a minor automotive
repair business in the B2 district as a
conditional use. Second is a conditional
use permit for minor automotive repair
and for a chain link fence with slats.
And the third is for PUD flexibilities
for specific site constraints.
Uh the existing property is located on
1.06 acres and the site currently
operates as a Shell gas station, bait
shop and offers U-Haul rentals. Uh the
applicant intends to redevelop the site
into an 8,700 square foot automotive
repair business
um that would have a customer service
space, office areas, and shop bay.
Typical services would include uh engine
diagnostics and repair electrical
computer repairs, uh fuel injection
systems, service, brake and suspension
work, and fluid changes. The applicant
has signed a purchase agreement with the
property owner and that purchase
agreement is um for the removal of all
underground storage tanks. So that would
include lift, hoists, waste oil, diesel
and gasoline tanks. The purchase
agreement also mentions the demolition
of the existing building on site as well
as the concrete gas pumps and gas pump
plumbing.
The site is currently located on two
lots, lot 11 and lot 12, which were
platted in 1959 as Burnsville Hills,
which is a subdivision, a 52 lot
subdivision. Um, in 1960, the gas
station was constructed for a 1,200 ft²
space. Um, all of this occurred prior to
the city of Burnsville being
incorporated as a city in 1964, and no
development applications or requests
have been submitted for their this
property since. Uh the applicant did
send out neighbor notifications for this
request back um earlier this year. They
sent out 55 notifications
um for the February 12th, 2026 meeting.
There was uh no one in attendance for
that meeting and there was one uh
response, written response that was
supportive of the project. Following the
neighborhood meeting was the city
council meeting and the city council was
supportive or city council work session
meeting, excuse me, uh was supportive of
the request because the building was
very versatile and could be easily
flexible for future reuse. Um and they
were also supportive as that it would be
a huge improvement to the site and was
overall supportive of the zoning
ordinance amendment.
Uh here's a quick site plan that the
applicant submitted that shows um the
proposal that would be building uh the
proposed footprint of the building. Um
it would include office spaces um the
shop bays uh mezzanine uh customer
service area and um it would include
significant parking on site. Most of
that will be on the outdoor storage area
um which is indicated in this um this
dash and X mark through the perimeter on
the east side and the south highlighted
here.
And um customers would park up front um
and then those would then later be taken
um for waiting vehicle repairs and
customer or employees would also be
parking in the outdoor storage area.
With this uh request, there's a the
applicant is requesting a zoning
ordinance amendment. Currently, the B2
district does not allow minor automotive
repair. The applicant is requesting to
allow this use. Um the B2 district, the
intent of the B2 district is to provide
commercial centers offering convenience
goods services to surrounding
residential areas. Uh minor auto minor
automotive repair may be comparable to
the district's intent um subject to
operational standards. Uh the B2
district is typically abuing or adjacent
to residential properties. So staff
thinks it's appropriate to have this as
a conditional use as opposed to
permitted. Staff would also like to uh
mention that Nitro Automotive Repair is
allowed and permitted and several
districts within the city is uh it is a
permitted use in the B3, B4, and I1
district. And within all those
districts, outdoor storage is a
conditional use. Uh the B2 district does
not permit outdoor storage. um and does
not allow it as a conditional use.
[clears throat] Um as s as such, staff
is recommending the language that is
shown in the italics of this slide. Um
staff is recommending that uh minor
automotive repair business business uh
conducted entirely within a building
with associated outdoor storage
permitted in accordance with section
1098 and screed in accordance with
section 10921 of this title. Um, I would
like to note that this zoning ordinance
amendment would not only impact the
subject property but other B2
properties. Uh, Burnsville has
approximately 32 B2 uh, properties.
Um, and staff would like to um, have
this be a conditional use to ensure any
spite site specific concerns are
mitigated such as noise, odor, um,
traffic um, by case-byase basis.
The applicant is requesting uh three um
or requesting multiple PUDs in order to
make this site feasible. Um these
include the reduction um from the side
setback from 30 ft to 13. A decrease the
required parking setback from 30 ft to
21. Modify the required plant diversity
standards from three of four to two of
four. Permit a flat roof on the
principal structure. Lower the internal
landscaping parking lot standard from 8%
to 5% and permit a minimum of 45% m
native species in lie of the 50% to
satisfy the alternative landscaping
feature.
Um, in terms of the parking lot setback,
um, within the B2 district, uh, there
are typical parking lot setback
standards, but that setback standard
increases to 30 ft anytime you're abuing
a residential property. So, in this
case, the parking setback is 30 ft on
the east and south side of the property.
Um, this can be um can hinder the site's
parking capacity needs and operational
needs. Um and the parking lot will be
significantly screened already with
landscaping and the 8 foot tall fence.
Um so in order to make the site
efficient staff is supportive of this
setback flexibility.
Um in terms of the flat roof um the city
code states that all buildings are
required to be pitched, manered or other
roof type that reflect the architectural
uh character of the adjacent residential
areas. Um, I looked in the neighboring
properties and most are pitched just
because they are residential um, homes.
Um, however, that's not very conducive
of a automotive repair business. They
need a lot more clearance for taking in
these vehicles to repair them and also
it's much easier to install rooftop
utility units um, such as HVACs um, onto
the roof of the structure if you have a
flat roof.
Um in terms of plant diversity, the city
code requires three of four plant types.
Um the four plant types include uh
evergreen trees, deciduous trees,
ornamental trees, and shrubs. And the
required number of those plantings is
based on the square footage of open
space. The applicant provided the
landscaping plans and it was shown that
they are meeting the overstory and
evergreen tree requirements, but they
are not providing any ornamental and
they are short ornamental or excuse me,
short shrubbery. Um staff is overall
supportive of this request because it
still meets uh the 25% plant diversity
requirement and there's significant
landscaping on site.
Um in terms of alternative landscaping
features, the code requires a minimum of
two of six uh alternative landscaping
options and those include uh zurcaping,
lake scaping, native species, rain
gardens and green rooftops. Uh the
applicant did meet the Zurcaping
standard which is providing species that
are drought tolerant species um such as
Carl Forester, Kentucky coffee tree and
Norway pine. Um and the applicant did
attempt to provide or attempt to fulfill
the native planting requirement. Um the
applicant provided uh 45% of native
plantings as opposed to the required
50%. staff is supportive of this because
it meets the ecological intent of the
city code. And uh lastly, in terms of
interior parking lot landscaping, the B2
district requires a minimum 8% internal
landscaping in the parking lot. Um the
applicant is proposing 5%. Um having the
limit or less landscaping inside will
better allow the applicant to utilize
their property um for parking and for
operational purposes. and the inside the
outdoor storage area, there's already
significant landscaping um with the
parking islands and much of that is
already not visible because of that 8ft
tall fence that is um surrounding that
property as well.
Uh concurrently with the zoning
ordinance amendment is a conditional use
permit to allow automotive uh repair
business as well as allowing an uh a
fence with chain link flat chain link
fence with slats. Um
the applicant is proposing to do all
interior work inside of the building and
there will be no auto body repair work.
Um common services that will be offered
will be oil changes, brake work,
suspension, alignment, drivetrain work,
engine repairs. Um and this will uh and
no outdoor work will be uh proposed at
this location. Um and just to
illustrate, I'm just going to move to
the next slide which is the floor plan.
The applicant um for the first floor um
is proposing to have some office spaces,
a customer service area, and they will
have this uh approximately 5,650
square ft um service bay area which will
hold house up to nine vehicles at a
time. And then this right-hand image is
the second floor, which you'll see
there's some office spaces, a storage
mezzanine, which will overlook um the
shop bay below.
Um and the site will also have um as
mentioned previously the outdoor storage
fence um which will be on located on the
south and east portion of the property
which will enclose about 19,000 square
ft and that is to store vehicles
awaiting repairs and for employee
parking.
Um last time I spoke with the applicant
and when the plans were submitted um the
plan was to have this project begin
construction in uh late summer, early
fall. so that it could open in spring of
2027. Um the proposed plan is to have
about six employees on site and their
hours of operation would be um
approximately 7:30 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
Monday through Friday and 8:00 a.m. to
2:00 p.m. on Saturdays.
Uh the applicant provided uh building
material uh exteriors and architecture
plans uh for the site. Um when staff
look through it, it is meeting all the
building design requirements except the
rooftop or except for the roof um which
is requested through the PUD
flexibility. Um the building is
specifically was designed for future
reuse in mind and that was by um
constructing uh high ceilings and clear
span structural systems to create a
flexible interior layout that can be
converted easily to other commercial
uses um such as like a retail space or a
a grocery store. Um, common exterior or
the building exterior materials that
will be included include a pre-cast
concrete panels, metal accent bands,
metal awning, horizontal and vertical
panel reveal, and glass windows.
Um, and here are some two renderings
that the applicant provided. The lefth
hand image is a rendering looking from
County Road 5, uh, looking north. And
the right hand image is a view from
about the sidewalk on County Road 5
looking south. Um, I'd also like to
mention that the blue boxes on the
building and over here represent where
the signage will be located.
Um, and I'd also like to point out that
these renderings that they do not
include the fencing in here, but this is
just to illustrate the overall um, look
of where the building will be located
and um, the vegetation.
Uh we calculate park the minimum number
of parking require or minimum number of
parking stalls based off the use of the
space and staff calculated this in a
minimum of 24 stalls are required for
the project. The applicant was proposing
to have 40 surface stalls and then an
additional nine stalls within the shop
bay for a total of 49 parking stalls.
Um, I'd like to mention that the up
front in front of the building, there
are 10 stalls for customer parking in
the outdoor storage area will have 30
parking stalls. Um, the applicant will
be removing uh access off of County Road
5 based on the county regulations and
they will be moving the two accesses
that are currently on Crystal Lake Road
West further east away from the
intersection.
Um, and I am just to illustrate um the
circulation on site, I'm just going to
go back to the site plan.
So, when customers enter the site, they
will be accessing the the driveway off
of Crystal Lake Road West and they will
be parking in the front of uh in front
of the building in one of these 10
parking stalls. They will then go into
the building and check in their vehicle.
From there, employees will then take the
vehicle either by going through the
sliding gate chain link fence here or if
it is needing repairs at that time, it
will be taken going through the inbound
overhead door into the shop bay where it
will get repaired. And then after that,
it will exit through the outbound
overhead door into the outdoor storage
area. Employees will enter through the
site by entering the Crystal Lake Road
west as well and then entering through
the sliding gate doors here. Employees
will be parking on the east side of that
outdoor storage area located over here.
It's approximately believe it was 8 to
10 parking stalls over here is where
they will be dedicated for employees.
The remainder of the site will be for
vehicles awaiting repairs.
Um, I'd also like to note um that
whenever there are deliveries or um
haulers coming to the site, they will be
entering similarly. They will just be
entering through that sliding gate um to
pick up the trash that's in the
enclosure here. And we'll be dropping
off deliveries as well. Um snow storage
is shown in dash lines located um near
the front parking lot on the northwest
portion of the property right here and
the northeast over in this area as well.
And there are two outdoor uh snow
storage areas as well in the outdoor
storage area located at the end of this
um southwest uh parking lot here and to
the south and over here as well.
Uh according to our ordinance the B2
district um trees may be removed up to
50% of the tree removal threshold. This
threshold is based on the valuation of
trees as opposed to the number of trees
on site. Um the applicant did provide a
breakdown of that um information and
that can be found specifically in the
civil plans on sheet C9. Um they stated
that they will be removing to exceed
that 50% threshold. And the city code
states when that happens that trees must
be um replanted at uh 1.5 times uh the
value of the trees removed. Although
they are doing significant replanting on
site um it is still um results in a
deficit. As such u the applicant is
required to provide a cash in l of
$8,43.99.
Um, as part of this, they are also
required to submit a tree removal permit
and a finalized woodland evaluation
worksheet. Um, prior to any tree
clearance on site,
the applicant is providing significant
screening. Uh, despite this the small
size of the site, um, much of the
evergreen trees will be located on the
east side of the property within the
outdoor storage area located
in this area. So, it'll be located on
the east and part of the south as well.
There's a few evergreen trees that are
located outside the outdoor storage
area, located in the northeast portion
of the property. And these are to
provide extra screening along that
fencing from the residential properties
as the deciduous trees will be planted
to the north portion of the property and
also partially to the west. There also a
few uh within the parking islands and at
the end of the parking lot as well um to
provide some internal landscaping.
And there's also quite a few perimeter
landscaping of shrubs, perennials, and
grasses around the perimeter of the
building and also within the parking
islands and at the ends of the parking
lots. There's also some around the
monument sign as well.
And I'd also like to mention that the
applicant and as a benefit to this PUD,
um they are the applicant is going to be
pro providing inground irrigation
systems in all mulched areas. And this
will have a water sensing device to
prevent any overwatering. And we'll be
will also have a timing device to
irrigate as well.
The applicant will be installing an 8ft
tall chain link fence with slats. Um and
this will be used to provide security
and also screen the vehicles from view
from the residential properties um
adjacent to it. Um and uh the plans
indicated that the fence will be
approximately one foot from the side
property line and about two feet from
the rear. Um the fence can go up to the
property line. Um however, the applicant
is responsible for maintaining any area
that's between the fence and the
property line. Uh the trash and
transformer will be located within the
fenced in area um where it will be
visually screened from view. Um all
trash um will be located within the
outdoor storage um area
and that will be hauled once a week and
common trash will include uh packaging
material, cardboard boxes and
unrecyclable parts. Uh the applicant did
not have specific details on the rooftop
utility units at this time. However,
they had general dimensions and
locations of where those units will be
located. Um and they believe that the
parit walls will provide sufficient
screening. The code states that RTU's
rooftop utility units must be screened
from ground view and that's that is
defined as um the view of the building
from the furthest width of the right of
way um from the property lines that abut
street. So, the furthest point of the
rightway of County Road 5 and Crystal
Lake Road West. And based on the
cross-sectional drawing that they
provided, um the RTUs are screened. But
to safeguard this, staff has added a
condition to safeguard um the screening
of these rooftop utility units.
The applicant also provide um general
locations and sizes of the signage on
site. Uh there will be uh two wall lit
signage that will be located on the
north and west side of the building
facade and there will be one monument
sign located on the west side of the
property which will be a changeable copy
sign. Um, this code states that it
cannot change more frequently than every
8 seconds or that the image itself
cannot change more than once every 8
seconds and cannot have a flashing or
scrolling movement and the brightness
can exceed one and a half candles abuing
residential properties. Staff would also
like to mention that within the B2
district, all illuminated signage um may
only be illuminate illuminated during
business hours or until 11:00 p.m.
whichever is later. and all lit signage
are required to have a light sensing
device to adjust brightness of display
as as natural ambient light changes. I'd
also like to note that all um the
signage plans shown meet our maximum
size requirements.
Um speaking of lighting, the applicant
also provided a phototric plan of where
all um lighting will be located, such as
wall packs and light poles. Um there
will be seven light packs and those will
be located on the north, south, and east
side of the building exterior. And there
will be three light poles. Um, one will
be in the north parking lot and two will
be in that um, Fston outdoor storage
area. Um, and staff reviewed those and
it meets our phototric um, city code
standards um,
to prevent and staff also made a
condition as part of this um, to
safeguard any lighting and glare
concerns to the residential adjacent
properties. A condition has been added
requiring light shields on the back of
all light poles to prevent lighting
spill over to adjacent residential
properties.
As a whole, staff reviewed the whole
proposal and believed that it meets the
2040 comprehensive plan by reinvesting
into the neighborhood and diversifying
the local economy and employment
opportunities. It also replaces replaces
an aging facility with a modernized
high-quality building um and maintains
the city's goal as an an economically
viable community to live and work. U it
is also an enhanced transition between
commercial and residential properties by
having significant landscaping and
permanent underground irrigation and
several conditions have been added to
mitigate any adverse impacts to nearby
residential properties.
As such, staff recommends that the
planning commission recommend to the
city council the approval of a zoning
ordinance amendment PUD and CUP to allow
a minor automotive repair business and
associated outdoor storage and chain
link fence with slats [clears throat] at
14801 County Road 5 subject to the 25
conditions of approval. With that, I
will turn it over to the planning
commission for any questions.
» Thank you, Miss Chapman. All right,
commissioners. Do you have any questions
for staff? Commissioner Anderson,
» Has was there any consideration made to
putting the trees that are screening the
residential area outside of the fence?
» Yeah, that was that's something staff
discussed. Um, we thought about having
them placed outside. The city code
doesn't specify it. There's a specific
code section that talks about buffer
requirements and it didn't specify
whether landscaping had to be outside or
inside the fence. Um, however, staff did
look at the potential for having it
outside, but when we looked at the
aerial view, the neighbors um directly
behind the subject property, so directly
to the east, already have fencing on
their property. And then also the
neighbors directly south um also
residential property also has fencing.
So, we thought that having vegetation
between the two fences would not
necessarily be necessary in this case
since there's already fencing that goes
up to that property line.
» Commissioner,
» I have a question that
you can educate me on. Um, and I know
that there's been ground testing and
other things because there's a gas
station. if when they tear down the
building they find additional ground
pollution for instance the lifts or
whatever have been leaking for years
who's responsible for that cleanup so
the applicant has a purchase agreement
with the property owner right now and as
part of that purchase agreement there
was a condition that stated that the
property owner is responsible for that
cleanup and I know that the MPCA has to
go out there and do testing and soil
borings for that um I'm not sure where
they are in that process at this
Thank you,
» Commissioner Anderson.
» In the storage area, can they store
anything besides automobiles?
» We put a condition in there that I I
don't remember the number, but it said
that all storage of materials, the
storage of exterior materials are not
allowed. So, it is strictly only for the
employee vehicles and vehicles being
repaired.
Right.
Commissioners, any other questions?
All right. At this time, I will invite
the applicant to um make any statements
and then commissioners can ask questions
prior to opening the public hearing.
» Can you state your name and address for
the record?
» Uh Darby Regan with Development, 21476
Granada Avenue, Lakeville. Um just on
behalf of Tom, you know, we are very
thankful for the work that staff, Mike
and Kira, you guys have put in on this
um staff report and throughout our
application process has been incredibly
helpful uh and you know to planning
commission as well. Thank you for
hearing our application. We're very
excited at this opportunity um and
incredibly thankful for the opportunity
to bring Thomas business to town. So,
thank you um for hearing your
application and we look forward to
continuing on.
» Beautiful. Thank you.
» Commissioners, did you have any
questions for the applicant? Sorry.
» Will they be moving their business to
Burnsville or will the location they
have now stay open?
» Would you like to speak more on that?
Tom Besser, owner of Besser Transmission
and Auto, uh 4221 Highway 13 West in
Savage. Um the answer to your question
is we're not 100% sure at this point
because of unbelievable is issues with
the uh SBA.
uh the SBA we're we're trying to do a a
um a 1031 reverse
uh process here which uh is building a
new facility then selling the existing
facility and putting the proceeds
towards that for tax purposes. That's
the ideal part of it. Um the SBA is is
kind of fighting that a little bit
because the time frame what we have in
front of us unfortunately is
construction on Highway 13. Uh, Highway
13 will be tore up next spring for two
years. And sitting in many meetings with
my broker, uh, I've been advised that
the property will not sell during that
time. So, it's best to hang on to that
property and either lease it as an
automotive repair facility or keep my
keep my operations going. Uh, but a lot
of that depends on if I can find
management staff to help out. Uh,
ideally, I want to get rid of the
property to do the 1031 exchange. That
is the goal. Uh however that may be
delayed by a couple of years because of
the SBA. Um the other question to to
answer about uh uh
Mr. Anderson, you had mentioned
something about uh uh the property and I
I forgot what it was. Um
the idea is to is to uh have all repairs
done inside so that you're concerned
about parking in the back. Um we don't
do body work. There's not we don't
dismantle cars to a point that we have
to push them outside that they're
unrecognizable.
Um there will be times rare times uh
that we have to put a car outside. It'll
be intact enough that you won't know
that it's not drivable. Okay. Uh the
generally speaking, this size
improvement of this building for me uh
will give each technician at least two
bays to work with. That way when one
does get tied up for while we're waiting
for parts or something of that nature,
we do not have to remove them from a
lift that they're on. That's my goal. It
has all to do with productivity. That
way it can continue to keep everything
inside the building without it. It
consumes time and money if we have to
push things outside. So it's not uh
something that is desirable in the
operations. Uh the other thing I wanted
to note was that the Saturday operations
um that is that will be as needed basis.
I have never been open on a Saturday in
in in 34 years of business and I
personally don't want to be. Um I like
to keep a family balance with my
technicians and so they can have the
weekends off and travel. So um a lot of
the Saturday the idea came behind that
is if you know can we afford the
property taxes on this place? It's going
to be huge and and one of the things
that might have to happen is we have to
be open for a few hours on Saturday to
help that funding. Uh but preferably uh
that will not be the case.
» Beautiful. Uh Commissioner Long,
» A question. You talked a little bit
about um flexibility of the building for
future use. Is there is there ideas of
something planned in the future or is it
just forward thinking? No, I I when I
came up with the design, I first sat
down with Mike, uh that was the first
thing I I proposed is to get rid of this
building that's there and to put up
something that, you know, cuz you know,
this building's going to far outlive me,
you know, and um I I thought that it
would be useful to make it to be used
for something different if uh it there's
a need because there who knows how long
this business will survive. And I I
think it honestly I I think it's a in a
fabulous location to enhance the the uh
the neighborhood given options instead
of going to those dealer row as I call
it um and to go to a private business
that can have their car repairs done.
But uh um
yeah, I guess that's it.
» Okay. Okay.
» Commissioner Long,
» I think I know the answer to this, but
I'm going to ask anyway just because
it's the neighborhood. You say the work
is going to be done inside, and I
understand you're not doing major
automotive repair to help keep the noise
down and so forth,
but even when you walk into one of these
dealerships with oil changes, it's loud
on the inside. Do you keep the doors
closed when you're performing the
repairs?
» We discussed that at length uh with with
the planning department. And the idea
there is to uh there will be days that
we want to keep the doors open. Uh the
idea is is just to keep some fresh air
into the place. Generally speaking, I am
what I'm offering on this construction
of this building as well is the quality
roof, quality sides to be heat efficient
and air condition efficient. We are
offering an air conditioned repair
facility because technicians like that
and we can draw in a much higher quality
technician if we have an air conditioned
area. But yeah, ideally there would be
times and what Mike was discussing uh
was if there's an issue with noise, we
can shut the doors. Okay.
» I'd also like to note staff did add a
condition um that stated that if there's
like three complaints within a six-month
period um there should be some
mitigation that the staff will help you
know support them through. But there is
still that condition to try and
safeguard any noise that is produced on
site.
» Thank you.
» Ideally, it would be great if the
neighbors came and talked to me about
it. I would not have a problem doing
something about it. I I mean I'm trying
to be there for the neighborhood area
and I certainly want to cooperate with
any concerns.
» All right. Any other questions for the
applicants? All right. Beautiful. Thank
you. With that, I will open the public
hearing at 7:08 p.m. Anyone who is in
the chamber and would like to wish wish
to speak to this can approach the
[laughter]
podium. Do we have anyone on Zoom?
» Nope.
» All right.
I will close the public hearing at
7:08 p.m.
All right, commissioners. Any
discussion?
» Make a motion.
» Yeah, make a motion. I'd like to make a
motion um to the city council to approve
the zoning ordinance amendment PUB and
CUP to allow minor automotive report
repair business and associate outdoor
storage and chain link fence with slats
at 14801 County Road 5 subject to the 25
conditions of approval noted.
» We have a motion second.
» All those in favor say I.
» I say nay. All right, the motion
carries. Congratulations.
» Thank you all. All
right. Next item on the agenda is
updates.
Any updates from commissioners?
» Updates from staff.
» Yes, we got a couple. Um so with
tonight's special meeting, next week's
plan commission meeting will be
cancelled. Um again, I want to thank you
everyone that's here for being flexible
and joining tonight. Um last week um due
to the election we had to move our
meeting to this week uh as there was a
special city council meeting on the
10th. So thank you again for everyone
being here tonight. Um another update
here on tomorrow night's um city council
consent agenda is the approval of a
contract with Stantech to be our
selected consultant for the 2050
comprehensive plan update. So, um, if
that's approved tomorrow night, we'll be
taking that off in October. So, we'll
start that. This commission here, as we
discussed, will be the, um, the lead on
that on that project. So, um, that's
exciting. And then
a little bit of bad news. Like to thank
our time with Commissioner Low. Um, he
is going to be stepping down here. This
will be his last meeting. I want to
thank you for your time and service on
the plan commission and your thoughtful
input and commitment to the community.
You've been it's been greatly
appreciated. I thank you. So, it's been
great. So, I wish you best uh best in
your future and uh thank you again for
serving your community.
» Thank you. It's been a pleasure being
here and I certainly have enjoyed it and
I've learned a lot. So, I appreciate it.
Thank you.
» Thank you. We you've been uh your short
time here has been a probably a little
over a year, right?
» It's [clears throat] been great. So
appreciate it. Good luck. And that's the
only that's all I got.
» That's all we got. All right. With that
then I will entertain a motion for
adjournment.
» So moved.
» Can I get a second?
» Second. All those in favor say I. I.
[clears throat] I.
» All right. Motion carries. That's a
wrap.