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I would like to call this meeting of the
Camrio City Council and Camaro Sanitary

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District of April 8th, 2026 to order.
Would our city clerk please call the

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role?
>> Council member Santangelo

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» here.
>> Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo

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» here.
>> Council member Kildy

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» here. Council member Trembley
>> here.

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» Mayor Tennyson
>> here. We have a close session item and

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if the city attorney would read the
item,

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» I would be appreciative.
>> Uh, thank you, mayor and council. We

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have one item on close session, the OPV
Coalition versus Fox Canyon Groundwater

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Management, pursuant to Government Code
section 54956.9D1.

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And if there's any reportable action,
I'll make that report.

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» Thank you. And with that, we will we we
will recess to close session and be back

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at 5:00 him.

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We will reconvene the Camrio City
Council meeting, Camrio Sanitary

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District meeting of April 8th, 2026.
And I would like the record to reflect

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that all council members are still
present. None of them ran away.

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Um, I'm going to ask Mr. Trembley to
lead us in the pledge.

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» Would you please join me in the
>> Pledge of Allegiance to the flag?

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» I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Thank you, Mr. Mr. Trembley,
are there any changes to this evening's

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agenda?
Seeing none, we will move on. We have a

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presentation tonight from the CEO of the
Museum of Ventura County, Elena Brokaw.

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But before she steps up and talks, I'd
also like to recognize board members

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from the Museum of Ventura County, Mr.
Jim Scanland. Welcome. Uh, Mr. David

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Fukatomi, a member of a longtime
Fukatomi family here in Camrio and his

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eminence, the president ameritus of
California State University, Channel

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Islands, Dr. Richard Rush. So, welcome
Elena. Please come forward. The time is

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yours.

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» Thank you so much, Mayor, Vice Mayor,

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» uh,
>> No, there it is. Mayor, Vice Mayor, all

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council members, city manager, city
staff, everybody at home. Thank you so

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much for allowing us to come here to
present tonight. As the mayor said, my

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name is Elena Broka. I'm the Barbara
Barnard Smith CEO of the Museum of

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Ventura County, and I'm here to share a
little bit of uh what we do with you.

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So, for those of you who don't know, we
are an art, history, and culture museum.

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We were founded over a hundred years
ago. We have uh four sites, two in

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downtown Ventura, one in Santa Paula,
and newly an office suite here in Camaro

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about a mile, mile and a half from here.
We are guided by the wisdom of our

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incredible board of directors. Thank
you, mayor, for introducing the three

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Camaro Rio residents who are here
tonight. Uh Dr. Rush, uh David Fukatomi,

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and Jim Scanlin. We also have over a
hundred voluntary adviserss. These

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people are from all over the county and
they are the ones who guide the museum

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and all that it does. So that's who we
are. Here's what we do. We collect our

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artifacts
and archives in order to guard the

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unique identity of our region, the
region of Ventura County.

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Um for uh our goal here is to make
everything as available as possible. I

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just want to point out this. This is a
site on our library and archives where

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you can go and look up digitized files.
Seven years ago, we had zero things

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digitized. Now we have over 8,000. We
use those collections to create exhibits

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in our six galleries that we have across
the county. We have rotating exhibits

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there. Um we our goal is to bring as
many people as possible and to that end

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we have made the museum entirely free.
We're able to do that through

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sponsorships, which is almost quadrupled
our attendance at all of our sites. And

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this is who comes to the museum. We have
about twothirds of our attendance from

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Ventura County and then about 25% from
other places in the state and 8% from

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outside of the state, including
international visitors. We're an

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educational institution. Education is
very important to what we do. We provide

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school tours free for all Title One
schools for second and third graders. We

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have bus subsidies. We've realized that
that is one of the biggest barriers to

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getting kids to our site. So, with a
recent grant, we are now able to provide

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free busing for every Title One school
who wants to come. Um, we're very, very

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thankful to a grant that we got a few
years ago, which created a paid

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internship program starting with
students here from Cal State University,

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Channel Islands. Many thanks to the
president, Emmeritus, for helping us

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with that. All of those interns are paid
a living wage, which right now is $204

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an hour. Our goal is to get students who
have to work in to do something that's

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going to be a career pathway for them.
And this is where we are doing our

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education and engagement. This
represents where we have tours, where we

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have interns coming from, where we have
scholarships, and as you can see, it's

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all over the county. So these
collections uh exhibits programs and

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education all serve the museum's
foundational principles which are these.

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Our mission is to engage participants in
meaningful experiences and our vision is

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to build community and connection.
And one of the ways that we build that

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connection is to highlight our shared
history. And to that end, tonight I

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would like to use our collections to
help all of us understand the city of

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Camaro, how who it was, and why it came
to be the way that it is today. So

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before we begin with my little history
lesson, I'd like to say that everything

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that I'm sharing with you comes from the
museum's archives, the library, and the

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publications. All the photos are from
our collection. So I'm going to start

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with a little short history. This will
be really quick. Um, we all learned this

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like in fourth grade, but I don't know
about you, that was a while ago for me,

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so I think we need a refresher. Since
pre-recorded history, this has been the

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home to indigenous uh people. Here it's
the Chumash. There were at least three

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Chumash villages here in what is now
Camaro. In 1542, a sailor named Cababrio

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came here, visited the coastline,
coastline. Yeah. coastline and took this

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whole region including Mexico and all of
California up into Oregon and further

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east as a part a new colony of Spain. In
1769

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the missions began to be erected here in
California and Spain began to colonize

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this area. In 1824,
the Mexican people revolted against

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Spain and miraculously they won just
like the revolution over on the other

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side of the country. It was incredible.
So from 1824 until 1848 where we are

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standing right now, we were in the
country of Mexico. In 1848 there was

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another war with the United States. The
United States won that time. We became

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part of the United States which we
remain today. And in 1850, we became a

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state. Okay, no test on that, but that's
a little bit of history to kind of There

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you go. Mayor's got it. To kind of
establish where we are in time.

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So when Mexico had governance of this
area, they were very e eager to populate

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the region because they didn't want it
to be taken from them. There were

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English, there were French, there were
Russians, all who wanted this territory.

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And one of the ways that they did that,
they lured people to come here is they

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provided ranchos, these large land
grants. So the Mexican governor,

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California governor rather, who was uh
appointed by the president of Mexico,

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would award land grants to people. They
could be soldiers who'd done something

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great. They could be, you know, somebody
who had married their nephew, whatever,

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or niece rather it. Yeah. Because there
were no women who were rancheros. Sorry,

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there was one. Uh so 19 ranchos were
established in Ventura County and they

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roughly correspond to the cities that we
have today. Can you all see that on your

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screens? You can probably see it a
little bit better, but you can see it

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there. And most of the Here's the
ranchos, the 19 ranchos. They're huge.

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Most of the cities are much smaller than
the original ranchos were. And part of

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the reason for that is that in the
1860s7s and 80s almost all of the

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ranchos were sold and almost all of the
new owners subdivided them and sold them

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off into small lots. So you had one
ranchera who owned let's say 50,000

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acres that was all turned into little
100 acre lots and then you had first

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tens and then scores and then hundreds
and then thousands of owners in a spot

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that had been owned by one person. But
that is not the case in one rancho and

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that rancho is Rancho Kayagus and we're
standing right now on what was Rancho

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Kayagus. In 1837 the California governor
granted 10,000 acres to Jose Pedro Ruiz

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and that was Rancho Cayas and now mo
most of that rancho is the city of

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Camaro as you can see. So what happened
here? Why is Camaro actually larger?

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It's 50% larger than it was when it was
Rancho Cayas as opposed to all the other

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cities. There are a lot of things that
led to that, but one critical factor is

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who bought Rancho Cayas from Jose Pedro
Ruiz. And that person was a Mexican

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immigrant named Juan Camaro. So Juan
Camaro had come up from Mexico City in

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1834. He was on a specific expedition
filled with teachers to educate the new

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kids that were being born in this newly
populated area. When he came up here, he

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became very wealthy because he did not
become a teacher. Spoiler alert. Uh he

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became a merchant. He had stores in
Santa Barbara and in Ventura. And by

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1875, he was ready to expand his
holdings. And he purchased Rancho Gyas

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from the family of Don of Jose Pedro
Ruiz. That family had used the rancho to

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raise livestock as almost all the
ranchos did. But extreme weather events

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in the 1860s ended the livestock
industry in Ventura County and the

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rancheros had to sell their property. So
in 1875, the Ruiz family sold 10,000

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acres to Juan Ramirez for $3,000, which
by the way is worth about $81,000

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now. And that was pretty much the going
rate that they were going for. Juan Crio

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did not have long to appreciate his new
purchase. He bought it in 1875. He died

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in 1880, leaving the management to his
16-year-old son, Adulo Camaro.

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Adulo co-owned, managed, and lived on
the rancho from 1880 until his death in

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1958, which is almost 80 years. He used
it to grow dry crops. He grew wheat,

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barley, limema beans. Here he is in the
middle finding a new artisian well on

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his property. Uh by 1909, the LA Times
wrote that Rancho Kayagus was the

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largest bean ranch in the world. It was
very successful. In 1892, he was able to

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build what came what has come to be
known as the Camrio Ranch House for his

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growing family. By all accounts, Adulo
and his brother Juan were extremely

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generous and benevolent employers, land
owners, etc. They donated hundreds of

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acres of property, for roads, for
schools, for churches, uh for the

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railroad, and for much more.
And their solo ownership of this huge

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piece of property, 10,000 piece acre
piece of property, meant that they

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controlled who moved there. So people
were moving into the land right around

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it. Like Springville was not part of
Rancho Cayas and so homesteaders were

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moving in there and there were some
people around the edges but nobody was

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moving on to the rancho unless they were
employers or family members of Adulo

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Juan and his family. And you can see
they managed all the growth and they

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liked it like that. So you can see that
from this postcard that we have. This is

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a postcard from Camaro spelled karmo. I
just noticed that in 1927.

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This is downtown Camaro. Now, let's
compare this to this photo downtown in

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1905.
Over 20 years earlier, anybody want to

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guess what city this is? This teeming
metropolis.

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» Sopa.
>> Santa.

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» Santa Paula.
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» Santa Paula. There you go.
Uh so it was not until Adulo Camaro died

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in 1958 that the community really grew.
Two years after his death, the chamber

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of commerce formed an incorporation
committee and in 19 Well, you know, it's

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all over, right? In 1964,
Camaro was incorporated and then it

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starts taking off. So I'm going to skip
through. I hope to talk a little bit

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more, but I'm not going to be able to
talk about this. This is a population

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chart starts in 1910 before we have any
census data for Camaro, but it shows how

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the cities grow. And I want you to sort
of watch Camaro, which is right here now

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cuz we're talking to you. See how it
goes up and down. And you'll start you

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see the numbers start to get there in
about the mid60s.

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So Ventura's largest, Oxnard, and then
whoop, Santa Paula overtakes Oxnard,

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which always blows everybody's mind.
Oxnard goes up there to the top and

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stays there. Here we go. Camaro starts
growing.

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Now it goes really fast. I'm going to
share this power. You already have the

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PowerPoint so you can actually watch it
on your own. But if you go back and look

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at it between 1970 and 1980, Camaro
grows by 350% that decade. And uh

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relatively Oxnard less than doubles. So
that 1970 1980 just been incorporated.

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It had not grown at all. That is when
everything happens and that is what

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creates the type of city that you have
today. So I want to be very clear that

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this is only one piece of the puzzle
that went into creating this city that

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you call Camaro. There are other people
that established Camaro. I talked about

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the homesteaders around the country that
around the borders of the Rancho

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Kayagas. There are other events that
happen. You're very lucky here in this

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town. You have other historical
associations. They have also collected

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history. the Pleasant Valley Historical
Society, the Camrio Ranch House

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Foundation, they also have source
materials that can tell even more of

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this story and tell other aspects of
this story. Um, I do want to say that we

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share their goal to protect and preserve
these records, these artifacts, um,

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these uh, archives, and our hope is to
complement what they have with what we

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have. I'm really happy and proud to be
able to share that the Camrio Ranch

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House Foundation and the Museum of
Ventura County are in conversations to

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accession some of their archives in
order to protect them and get them into

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climate controlled environment in order
to make sure that they are here in the

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future. So, in closing, I want to thank
you for letting me tell this story, talk

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about who the museum is, and I do want
to say I have an ask.

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So, I've talked about, you know, the
history over a past 175 years. One thing

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I hope we take away is that it wasn't
always this way, and it won't always be

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this way. It's going to look very
different. You were incorporated 60

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years ago. And our goal is to collect
our history now so that 60 years from

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now, none of us is going to be here. But
somebody will be wondering what happened

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to create the community that we know
then. And our goal is to gather that and

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protect it. So I have a few requests
that I would like to make of you which

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is to help us identify oral history
participants to help us identify

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partners who can both share their
history with us and help us expand the

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storytelling that we are able to do. So
this is our ask to you to help us

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connect the past, present and future. We
would love to partner with you formally,

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informally, whatever it might be to help
share the story of our of this city and

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of our entire region. And that's it.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you, Elena. Before I open it up to

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council, I just want to congratulate you
on being named woman of the year by

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Senator Monnique Leone. Congratulations.
Welld deserved. Now, any council

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members?

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Vice Mayor,
>> I actually have a question and a

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comment. The first question is, oh,
actually, I'll start with a comment. Uh,

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thank you so much for you said community
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That is you as the leader, but also your
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doing such amazing work. I'm personally
so proud of that. And the mayor kind of

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took the words out of my mouth, too. But
I, you know, I'm so proud that you were

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also uh selected as one of the five
women of the year by Senator Prom

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Monique Leone. And I mentioned that at
last at our last council meeting, but

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I'm glad to share that with you in
person as well. Yes. Um the question

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that I have is have you formed any
partnerships with Kitstream Emerging

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Children's Museum and also with the
Pleasant Valley Historical Society? We I

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meet with Michael fairly reg Michael
Shanklin uh the ED of the of Kids

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Stream. So we are we've taken tours.
He's taken tours of ours. We are very

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» we're very much like whenever you're
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partnership. So and he knows that our
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whatever way and vice versa. So we don't
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Pleasant Valley Historical Society. I
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before of the museum before they closed
it and I've been in touch with Joy Todd

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recently just to say let's get together
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So nothing specific yet but
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» Okay. Well, thank you so much and thank
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appreciate it.
>> Go ahead Mr. Kildy. Speaking of history

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» quickly, Mr. K.
>> Oh, thank you. Thanks for being here.

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look forward to working with you really
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it was a major funders you had last year
and I had a really good time and I was

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able to tour the museum and you've done
some pretty incredible work there and

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you have a great board of directors and
a lot of support. So, uh, any way we can

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help you, you know, achieve your goals,
of course, we're we're always here to to

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help in any way, shape, or form. So, and
congratulations on your award. Happy for

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you.
>> Thank you.

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Susan,
>> thank you so much for being here

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tonight. Um, you know, you shared that
um you shared your mission with with us

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and what stood out to me was that um you
want to engage in meaningful experiences

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and so I wanted to thank you for
bringing your mission here tonight. um

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because that was pretty meaningful for
me to have a a short little history

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lesson to go back in time and relive my
fourth grade um memories about the

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missions and and um you know the land
that we live in today. So, thank you for

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the work you do and congratulations on
your award.

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» Thank you,
>> Mr. Trembley.

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» Oh, boy. We have a kind of a tradition
on the council that if if uh our

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colleagues have already said what we
were going to say, we don't extend our

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remarks. we just simply say ditto. Um I
that would be uncharacteristic

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uncharacteristically succinct for me
though. I'm going to say one or two

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things and then say ditto. First of all,
I'm really delighted that the museum has

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offices now in Camaro. Um I am thankful
to the museum and to the board of

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directors for the foresight uh and the
work and the efforts uh that you've made

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in preserving our our local history. Um
I think we all know what the importance

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of the museum is. So whatever we can do
I see let's see 1 2 3 4 five six seven I

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think there are eight bullets here so we
should we should talk about all those

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asks and
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» thank you
>> and just to bring it back to Camrio you

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have office space what do you envision
for that just office space or do you

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guys as a organization and a board have
a greater vision for your presence in

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Camaro
>> we have lot this board has lots of

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vision as you can imagine
>> realistic big dreams. Um, our goal, so

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we are out of space to collect, which is
one of the reasons we're focusing on

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oral histories because they are digital,
right? They don't need physical space.

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They need cloud space. Um, and we have
to expand our collections. So, right

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now, we are exploring expanding our
entire collections here into Camaro and

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moving what we would call our research
center. So, all of our collections, our

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reading room, our archives, everything
is centrally located. We're really close

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to two institution, three if you can
Oxard College institutions of higher

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learning. Um we feel like we can really
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here. So that's our big dream.
>> And what's the size of your footprint

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right now in Camrio?
>> Right now we're in 45 4,000 square feet

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of office space and we are looking at
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» Great.
>> Or space, excuse me, space.

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» Space. Yeah. Well, thank you very much,
Elena, and thank you to your board

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members that took out of their busy
schedule instead of going to Ralph

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shopping. Uh, Dr. Rush is here. Um, I
appreciate that. Have a wonderful

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evening.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you, Elena.

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» You're allowed to leave now, Dr. Rush,
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» Thank you, Mr.

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Madame clerk, do we have any speakers on
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» Yes, there are six requests to speak
under general comments. If you'd like to

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speak but haven't submitted your name,
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general public comment for an initial
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up during the initial 20 minute public
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that time will be given an opportunity
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action on all other agenda items. Your
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the displays. When your time is up, the
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move on to the next speaker. When I call
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The first speaker is Spencer Richie
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Welcome, Spencer.
>> Hello.

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All right. Fine. Hi, I am Spencer
Richie. Um good evening to you all. Um

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few few different things. Um one tiny
little correction to the the

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presentation. Um as lovely as it was.
Um, so in reality,

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um, Ranchic Kayagus' western border
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basically just west of what of an of
what is now um, Lewis.

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Um,
what we are standing in now is actually

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um, it's called the Gore. it it's often
called the gore after like a cut of

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fabric, but basically where Springville
and was and where most of Camrio is now,

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including us, that was in the um
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Cayas's west that ended up the the
reason that was open to homesteaders was

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because that ended up not making it into
um any of the land grants that were

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registered by first the Mexican
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Um anyway, so on to the the meat and
potatoes of

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but again, thank you for the Ventura
County Museum and I could not be happier

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that it plans to one day move its
research center to Cam Rio because

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getting to downtown Ventures is hard for
me as someone who can't drive especially

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because our public transit is lacking.
All right, now to my main concern. So,

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as of 9:20 a.m. on April 6th, so 2 days
ago, Monday, um, ICE has so far, again,

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as of 9:20 a.m. on Monday, April 6th, 2
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from the 805 area code
1,824

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people. ICE has kidnapped 889 people
from Ventura County so far. And from

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Camaro alone, it has kidnapped 471
people. Um, again, these are neighbors,

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these are students, these are workers
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you know, since you know, you like
people paying taxes and stuff. Um, so

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again, you know, not even scolding VCSO
for picking up people who have just been

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released from our jails, like no,
letting ICE do that. And also, like not

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even tolerating people just observing
ICE, that's not great. Please do better.

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Thank you. Have a nice day.
>> Thank you, Spencer.

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» Welcome.
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» Welcome, Diana.
>> Thank you. Which one do I use? This one.

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» Either one.
>> Okay. Hello. Oh, good. Um, hi. Um, I

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attended your council meeting
uh two weeks ago, March 25th, hoping to

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see the Camaro mobile home rent
stabilization ordinance passed. That did

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not happen. Council members Santangelo
and Martinez Bravo are the committee

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members pursuing this ordinance to help
us mobile home mobile home owners who

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are subject to unfair land lease raises
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Their committee has done extensive
research over the last year. They

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provided verified statistics that IPG is
gouging their tenants.

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The land rent chart that was displayed
by the committee. Really all you need to

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know about the park owner IPG. They
raise their land rents without a care

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about their senior tenants, which I am
one, and their lower income and family

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tenants. I personally know of two senior
tenants in the past three years who had

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to just walk away from their homes. One
is now living in his car.

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Uh the two female council members voted
in favor and all three of the male

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members opposed, noting that they wanted
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primarily, it's my understanding, to the
vacancy control, which is the ability

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for park owners to raise land leases
substantially to potential buyers.

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Ventura County Parks limit vacancy
increases to 15%

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once every four years and Ventura city
parks do not allow increases to a new

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tenant.
The mobile homeowners want to protect

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their home equity. This ordinance can
protect the equity of 500 homeowners

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that have built in Camaro's mobile home
parks. The loss of our home equity, I

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think, is directly tied to the vacancy
control. We're asking you to pass this

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ordinance, protect our equity by
limiting park owners raising land rents

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exorbitantly to potential buyers during
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Controlling vacancy increases is a
priority for mobile home owners.

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Homeowners need monthly rent
stabilization as well to protect our

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seniors living on fixed income.
We mobile homeowners and tenants

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respectfully ask the city council to
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Thank you.
>> Thank you,

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» Jordan Blake followed by Shirley
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Welcome, Jordan.
>> Oh, thank you. Hello. Thank you very

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much for taking the time to listen to
the issue regarding the rent control and

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vacancy rate. Um, I guess I'll read a
little and speak a little. Um, Camaro

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prides itself on taking care of the
senior community. However,

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unfortunately, without ordinances, the
rent control and vacancy rates uh has

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directly affected the senior community
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fixed income communities. They are
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should be a lowerc cost path to home
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seniors. So, the lack of ordinance in
the city's law has allowed landlords to

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take advantage of the v vulnerable
lowincome and senior communities because

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there's no rent control or vacancy
measures in place. The rents have

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skyrocketed as you know.
And uh if the city adopts uh like a 6 or

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10% uh vacancy rate like you were
talking about at the last meeting, the

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new new rents, the landlords will most
certainly increase to the maximum. Um

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because the rents are already higher
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areas, adding six or 10% to the vacancy
rate would be ultimately a much higher

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rent than the other 55 and older senior
parks. and also just other mobile home

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parks in general of all ages. Um, so I
propose that we do some type of sliding

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scale where maybe the first or second
year is at 0% and then you go years two

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and three to 2% and then 4% ultimately
ending up around 7%. And I think that

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this graduated increase, you know, would
no longer allow the rents to be

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increased 20 to 50% when a home sells,
which is what's happening now. You know,

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you you're paying a,000 and then the
rent is 260 to the new prospective buyer

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plus three times, you know, income for a
senior. Uh, and I think that's it. What

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I want to say to what the prior um
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vacancy rate is directly affecting the
sales. um the comparables if you pull

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for the last five years in like Camaro
Mobile Estates versus Casadel Norte

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which is far less and also uh Rancho
Adulo which has 11 landown uh I mean our

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park-owned spaces that they rent and
their rent there is only $15.95 in

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Rancho Adulo including the homeowners
and all of those sell for much higher uh

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the average for Camaro Mobile estates I
think was like 97,000 000. Kasa del

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Norte was like 137,000. Lamp lighter was
like 237. But I think that's because

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it's, you know, all ages and uh, you
know, they have two incomes versus

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Camaro Mobile Home Estates, which is
for, you know, seniors and elderly.

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Thank you so much.
>> Thank you, Jordan.

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» Shirley Edwards, followed by Sid Hearth
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Welcome, ma'am.
>> Hello. I'm Shirley Edwards. I live in

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the Mobile Home Park here in Camaro. And
I rise in support of the rent ordinance,

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stabilization ordinance, including
vacancy control. And I urge all council

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members to vote positive on this when it
comes up for the next uh voting process.

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I say ditto to the last two speakers
because I agree with everything they

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said.
um an an owner in a mobile home park

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like me for instance on a fixed income.
If I wanted to sell my home, I uh may

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have to devalue it in order to be able
to sell because new owners are very

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turned off by the high land rent. My
place will probably go very much higher

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:59,280
a month than it is now. My lease expires
at the end of the month and I'm at the

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end of this year, I'm sorry. And I'm
very concerned about what the price is

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going to be. Am I going to be able to
pay it? What are my options going to be?

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Sell hopefully or walk away. Those are
the options. So, I strongly request that

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you vote for the rent stabilization
ordinance with vacancy control to help

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protect those of us who live in the city
and devote a lot of volunteer time to

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the city of Camaro. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

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Sidarth Medroa followed by DVO Brown.

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» Welcome,

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» council. Fellow citizens,
I believe the speakers before me have

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spoken most wisely of all. I add my
voice to theirs to all their remarks and

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I add this also. Council, we are coming
to you for protection.

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Protection from being turned out of
house and home in some cases.

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Protection from being attacked,
abducted, bullied, beaten, carried away

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:21,680
to a face it worse than death in the
other. Protection in a third case from

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01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:27,760
pollution and the excessive heat. it is
imposing on this city as well.

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These things
these things are the largest troubles

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:39,440
our nation faces and our city as well.
We come to you asking for your aid in

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putting an end to them.
Above all, perhaps most urgently, all

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three of these must be done. But most
urgently,

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01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:53,119
ICE, Immigration and Customs
Enforcement, as they call themselves,

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:57,200
the occupying force invading and
threatening us.

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01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:01,119
The invading force imprisoning people
merely for looking at them, as Spencer

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:06,799
pointed out,
why they must stop and they must go.

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They must stop all they are doing and
they must go from this city, from this

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county, from this state never to return.

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That is the bare minimum.
The bare minimum any city must offer its

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01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:26,400
people
the safety

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01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:32,400
and the confidence of a place to call
home. If these threats of high rent

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occupying armies and and pollution
continue, we shall have none of these.

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01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:42,640
We shall not even have a city,
the the borders of this land have been,

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:46,799
as our executive of the museum pointed
out, been drawn and redrawn many times

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01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:50,480
over the years,
and they may be redrawn again. But

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01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:54,159
there's no cause to mistreat our own
people on those grounds. whether those

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01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:57,159
borders are drawn by nations or
landlords.

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01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:03,480
When I have said that, I have said
everything.

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:10,880
Pollution
and and high rent and and customs

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enforcement as they call it must stop
and must go. That is all.

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:19,799
» Thank you,
>> DVO Brown.

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01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:32,000
Welcome, sir.
>> Thank you, sir, very much. Uh, Mr.

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01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:37,520
Mayor, I appreciate it. Vice Mayor,
council members,

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Mr. Ramirez, city manager, and all the
amazing city staff. Um, I don't say

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01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:46,319
those terms lightly. It's not uh just a
gentle colloquialism. It's a truly an

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01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:50,560
expression of my opinion of everyone on
this das. I appreciate it. Um, I'm of

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:54,320
course talking to you what I always talk
to you about. So far the last several

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01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:59,280
times we've spoken. Um, but I have a
couple of new thoughts. I'm not going to

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:02,640
beat you with uh
figures and and those sorts of things.

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It's just Well, I'm going to give you a
couple just a couple. Um, the main

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01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:11,080
figure that I was thinking of is um

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:20,320
well, it really has to do with
with vacancy control. And I think that's

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what we were discussing. The three non
uh ad hoc members of the council were

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really really drilling down on last time
at the last meeting.

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The thing that I didn't hear any of you
mention, I heard all of you mention

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01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:39,840
return on investment for the park owner
many times and I noticed in the uh

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01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:43,600
agenda report it's mentioned 17 times
return on investment. I also understand

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that it's a state law that it has to be
there and I find that your due diligence

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01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:51,360
is refreshing because that tells me your
due diligence on things that we don't

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01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:54,640
discuss is probably just as high and I
appreciate that. So when I say thank you

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01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:58,640
for your service, I'm thanking you for
that attention to detail as well. The

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01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:02,880
one detail that wasn't attended to that
I haven't heard yet, it's not in the

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01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:07,600
it's not in the the ordinance itself,
which by the way does mention return on

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investment for the park owner 12 times
was return on investment for the

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homeowners.
In this particular place, in this

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:20,000
particular situation, there are two
owners for every every parcel, if you

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:24,960
will. There's the land owner and then
there's the homeowner. Now, a standard

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01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:30,640
stick and mortar home, it's one owner.
the one owner owns both the home and the

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:33,920
land. In this instance, there's two.
Now, I don't know if you know this or

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01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:38,239
not, but I I like to I don't know if you
know any American Sign Language, but

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:42,000
there's a symbol for fair because fair
return is the the term that's used quite

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01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:46,719
a bit. The term fair in American Sign
Language is this.

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01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:52,400
Okay, it's um sign language is kind of a
visual anamapia, anamanopia, but um what

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01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:59,440
that means is there's two entities and
they meet at a level ground. And so far

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:04,080
what I've noticed is the uh the
particular inside of this that has the

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:08,080
most money gets the most fair. They get
the most mention of the term fair. And

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:13,199
the ones that have the least amount of
money, the individual homeowners aren't

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:17,840
getting the term fair toward our return
at all. It hasn't been mentioned. I'm

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:22,640
hoping it's being considered after I
speak to you today. That's the least I

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01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:27,199
can tell you. Um, that's really all I
wanted to mention is that I feel like

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:32,080
we're being left out. Um, collectively
the homeowners in the city.

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I'm out of time. Thanks for letting me
share.

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01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,360
» Thank you very much.

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:44,239
» There are no more speakers.
>> Thank you very much. We will move on to

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01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:49,040
council staff and intergovernmental
reports.

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And I would like to write um welcome Mr.
Gerardo Gonzalez

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01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:58,719
with
Interface 211. Welcome.

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01:12:56,719 --> 01:13:04,080
» Uh, good evening, mayor, vice mayor,
council members, and city manager. Thank

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:09,360
you for excuse me, having me here today.
I'm Hero Gonzalez, community information

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:14,239
associate director with interface 211.
And I'm here to share how uh 211 has

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01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:19,600
been supporting Camrio residents
throughout this past year.

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01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:24,640
For those who may be unfamiliar with our
services, uh 211 Ventura County operates

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:30,080
under interface children and family
services based out of uh Camaro. Uh we

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01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:35,280
serve as a countywide information and
referral hub linking residents to more

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:41,280
than 2,000 health and human service
resources uh throughout the region. Uh

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01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:46,880
last year in 2025, we received over
18,000 calls and texts, and our website

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01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:50,800
welcomed more than 25,000 visitors. Uh
each of these interactions represents

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:55,600
someone funding their way to the
services and the help that they need. Uh

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:14:00,159
in 2026, we celebrate over 20 years of
providing uh 21 services to the

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01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:05,040
community.
Uh 211 represents just one part of

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:10,560
Interface's broader mission. Interface
runs 30 distinct programs across six

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:14,960
core departments. Uh domestic violence
and child abuse prevention, human

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01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:19,440
trafficking prevention and intervention,
uh justice services, mental health and

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:23,640
trauma treatment, and youth crisis and
homeless uh services.

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01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:33,120
This broader network allows us to be
able to direct refer to our interface

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:37,239
programs for uh individuals who uh can
benefit from our services.

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01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:45,840
Uh 211 stands as the county's most
extensive and comprehensive information

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01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:51,520
and referral resource for residents
seeking help. Our team assists callers

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:56,000
in locating and accessing uh the service
that the services that they require from

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:15:02,239
housing to food programs, mental health
support to legal aid. We're available

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:07,480
247 every day of the year, understanding
that urgent needs don't wait for

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,480
convenient hours.

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:14,880
Accessibility is central to our mission.
Residents can connect with us in three

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01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:20,000
simple methods, and that's by dialing
211, texting. their zip code 2898211

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,400
or visiting our website at
211ventura.org.

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01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:29,760
Regardless of how someone uh connects
with us, they'll be connected to a

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01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:34,480
trained community information navigator.
Uh now I'd like to share some specific

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:41,440
data about how we served uh Camrio
residents in 2025. So we took 1,59

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:46,159
calls uh from Camrio residents
throughout the year. Uh let me give you

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some context around this figure. uh a
significant number of our Camaro callers

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01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:56,640
reach out to us more than once. So the
actual count of unique individuals is

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01:15:53,440 --> 01:16:01,520
lower than the 1,59.
Uh what this shows us is that residents

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01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:06,719
trust 211 enough to come back when they
need additional uh support. Someone

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:10,800
might contact us initially about finding
housing and then give us a call back a

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:15,440
few weeks later when they need mental
health services or perhaps give us a

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01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:21,280
call a third time when they need uh food
assistance. Uh we collect demographic

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01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:25,360
information from every caller to help us
understand community needs and trends

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01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:31,159
which is why you're seeing the total
call volume rather than a count of

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,159
unique individuals.

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:43,920
Uh looking at the demographics of those
that we served, uh 457 were first-time

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01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:48,320
callers to 211. 105 were families with
children under 5 years old. 22 callers

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01:16:46,719 --> 01:16:52,719
indicated the person in need was
pregnant. 100 calls pertained to someone

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01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:58,159
who reported they were at risk of
becoming homeless. And 142 calls pertain

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01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:02,080
to someone who reported that they were
currently homeless. Uh you know these

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:07,760
numbers give us a snapshot of some of
the challenges facing some of our Camaro

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01:17:04,719 --> 01:17:12,159
neighbors within the context of 211 um
particularly around housing stability

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:16,320
and the need for comprehensive family
support.

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:20,880
Behind each of these calls is a real
person uh navigating a difficult

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01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:25,840
situation. Uh let me share an example
with you. A few months ago, we received

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:31,040
a call from a Camaro resident, uh, let's
call her Sarah, uh, facing a crisis that

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:35,199
was affecting her entire family. Her
15-year-old son had been refusing to go

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01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:39,440
to to go to school, uh, becoming
verbally abusive at home and showing

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01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:44,320
signs of serious uh, mental health
struggles. Sarah had contacted the

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01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:48,719
school and they referred her to a mental
health provider. but she was overwhelmed

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01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:53,600
trying to navigate the mental health
system while also managing her own

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01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:59,520
stress and anxiety about her son's
well-being.

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01:17:56,480 --> 01:18:04,640
Uh when Sarah called 211, our navigator
recognized that this wasn't just about

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:09,520
finding a mental health provider. It was
also about supporting an entire family

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:14,320
in need. Uh we connected her to mental
health services that accept medical uh

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01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:19,040
for her son, linked her to family
therapy resources so the whole family

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01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:23,360
could work through this together and
provided information about support

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:28,800
groups for uh parents dealing with
similar challenges. Uh when one family

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:34,800
member struggles with mental health, uh
the entire family often needs support as

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01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:39,120
well, not just the individual in crisis.
211 is here to help uh families access

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:45,120
the comprehensive services they need to
be able to heal together.

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01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:50,400
Uh when we look at the top categories of
needs expressed by Camrio callers in

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01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:54,800
2025, housing ranked number one uh no
surprise there. Second was individual

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01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:59,360
family and community support
encompassing services like the area

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01:18:56,719 --> 01:19:04,560
agency on aging case management and
programs like holiday gifts and toys. Uh

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01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:09,600
third was mental health and substance
use services. Uh ref reflecting the

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01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:15,120
significant need for uh behavioral
health support.

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01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:20,400
Uh this slide here shows how Camrio
compares to other cities in the county.

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01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:24,960
As you can see, housing is the top need
across every community. This is a

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01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:29,920
countywide challenge, not unique uh to
Camaro. What we see in Camaro is that

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:33,920
mental health and substance use services
rank as the third highest need. Uh this

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01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:38,560
reflects a pattern we're seeing in
several communities across the county

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01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:45,920
where uh behavioral health support is
becoming an increasingly prominent need

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01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:50,719
alongside housing and family services.
And lastly uh to wrap up, in addition to

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:55,440
uh linking residents to existing
resources, we operate uh several

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:59,840
specialized programs delivering direct
services over the phone uh to residents

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:04,640
through VITA, our volunteer income tax
assistance program. Uh we offer

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01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:09,280
appointments for no cost tax preparation
uh to qualifying community members,

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:14,640
helping them claim maximum refunds and
access tax credits that they're entitled

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01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:19,440
to. Our PSPS initiative supports the
access and functional needs population

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01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:25,360
in advance of public safety power shut
offs via case management and delivers

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01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:30,480
real time help during actual uh shut
offs uh covering things like lodging,

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01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:35,679
meals, transportation, portable backup
batteries, all at no cost to residents

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01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:39,520
for the duration of the PSPS events. And
this is made possible through our

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:44,480
partnership with Southern California
Edison. Ventura versus Hate uh assists

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01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:50,159
those who've experienced hate incidents
in filing reports and accessing

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01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:54,640
appropriate uh support services through
ECM, our enhanced care management

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01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:59,440
program. Our team delivers comprehensive
case management to eligible Gold Coast

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01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:04,400
Health Plan members, helping them
address both their health needs and

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01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:09,120
basic needs through coordinated care. Uh
these initiatives allow us to offer

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01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:14,400
hands-on assistance to some of our most
vulnerable residents in our communities.

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01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:19,120
I appreciate your time this evening and
thank you uh so much for your continued

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:23,920
support of the work that we do here in
21 I'm sorry in Camaro through 211. Uh

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01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:28,080
if you or anyone you know ever needs
assistance, please remember that we're

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01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:31,760
here uh 247. Again, you can reach us by
calling 211, texting your zip code

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01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:35,520
2898211,
or visiting our website at 21venter.org.

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01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:40,400
Thank you so much.
>> Thank you, Herardo. Herardo,

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01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:45,040
I said it right this time. You said it
right. Yes. Any comments or questions? I

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:50,000
know the vice mayor will have something.
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor uh, Herardo. Thank

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01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:55,760
you so much for your presentation and
more than anything, thank you to 211 for

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01:21:52,880 --> 01:22:01,600
the critical work that is being offered
to our community members. Um, I know you

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:08,400
mentioned that housing is the top need
and mental health is, I believe, number

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01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:12,880
three. Um, and I would probably assume
that when people are asking for mental

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01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:16,480
health support is when they're already
acknowledging that they need that

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01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:20,880
support. But unfortunately, if people
are facing housing insecurity, they're

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:27,120
probably already in need of some mental
health services. Um, when people are

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01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:30,960
seeking housing services, are you able
to make that connection to any mental

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01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:36,400
health support as well?
>> Yeah. Yeah, we are. So, um, our approach

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01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:41,600
is to be as comprehens comprehensive as
possible. So, when someone calls, um, we

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:46,080
make sure to assess their situation.
What we want to do is of course

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01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:52,000
acknowledge the stated need but also
look out for unstated needs, right? So

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:58,000
often times we're able to provide
additional resources to try to uh again

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01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,679
uh
kind of make sure that they're they're

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01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:06,639
taken care of in every aspect. And
depending um you know depending if

615
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:11,120
they're able to take all of that
information at the time uh we're able to

616
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:15,280
share uh the resources that they that
they need and if not then we'll follow

617
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,880
up with them or they'll know that we're
here 24/7 so they can they can connect

618
01:23:17,679 --> 01:23:23,679
with us again.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. And other than

619
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:27,440
that, my comment is just that I'm very
proud that the city of Camaro is a

620
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:33,040
partner and supporter, financial
supporter of 211 because it is through

621
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:37,679
that work that we're able to offer these
services to our community members who

622
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,080
need it right then and there. So, thank
you.

623
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:45,040
» Thank you.
>> Any other comments, Susan?

624
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:49,679
» Oh, you're leaving.
>> Herardo, we're not done.

625
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:52,800
» Apologize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
>> Thank you for being No, that you're

626
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:58,320
fine. I'm just teasing you. I'm really
happy you're here tonight. Um, you know,

627
01:23:55,280 --> 01:24:05,040
my day job is a psychiatric nurse and so
I have patients that um use 211 and in

628
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:10,239
the same sense that I refer them to. So,
I'm really happy that we have that

629
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:15,440
resource and I am um not happy but it's
really um rewarding that I get to see it

630
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:19,840
in use daily. So, thank you.
>> Thank you,

631
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:25,840
» gentlemen. Mr. KD Jardo just kind of uh
quickly if you would um housing are most

632
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:30,480
of the calls with the housing related
are they in a financial

633
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:36,080
rent assistance what what's the number
one would you say with the housing call

634
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:41,360
» so the composition of that top need is
about 50% uh affordable subsidized

635
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:46,159
housing so individuals that are looking
for low-income subsidized housing and

636
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:49,840
about 20% of that is individuals who are
seeking emergency housing because

637
01:24:47,679 --> 01:24:55,520
they're either homeless or uh they're at
risk. And then the remainder of that is

638
01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:58,320
individuals who yes are uh going through
some type of financial hardship and

639
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:02,880
they're looking for rent payment
assistance or help with their with their

640
01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:08,719
bills. So oftent times what we what we
want to do is uh assess their situation

641
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:11,360
and um make sure you know are they
taking advantage of any entitlement

642
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:15,679
benefits. You know are you enrolled in
Calresh, Cal Works? Um if they're

643
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:20,800
disabled, you know, do you have social
security income? So, we try to explore

644
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:24,880
those avenues uh combined with the
actual resources for rent payment

645
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:29,520
assistance or low-income subsidized
housing. Uh right now, uh there's a

646
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:33,760
variety of weight lists that are
available uh through many mansions and

647
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:38,639
other low-income housing providers. So,
we're excited that on daily we're able

648
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:42,480
to connect individuals to those uh
housing weight lists. And there's even a

649
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,840
couple lists that are actually open
right now where they're accepting

650
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:49,920
applications for consideration of
housing. So that's kind of a relief

651
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:53,440
there that over these last few months
there's actually some good viable

652
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:56,639
options for for people to consider.
Oftent time people are frustrated

653
01:25:54,960 --> 01:26:00,719
because they need they need a they need
housing in a month or two but you know

654
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,960
time will pass. We still encourage them
to get on the wait list because the time

655
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:09,040
will come eventually. Um so that's kind
of like a

656
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:12,320
like you know kind of what that looks
like.

657
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:15,199
» Thank you. That's helpful.
>> Mr. Trembley.

658
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:19,520
» Thanks Mr. Mayor Hera. Thank you for
being here. um the the depth and the

659
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:23,280
breadth of 211's expertise in all these
different areas is is instrumental for

660
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,960
our community. So, I really appreciate
you being here. Ditto to what my uh

661
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:34,560
colleagues have already said and I want
to especially note and compliment um you

662
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:38,320
on the power uh shut off safety services
uh and that partnership I guess

663
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:42,880
partnership with with Edison because I
know it's of value uh during those

664
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:46,560
times. So, thanks for being here.
>> Thank you.

665
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,600
Thank you very much, Ditto, what my
colleagues have said and now you are

666
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,600
free to leave.
>> Thank you so much for your time. I

667
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,719
appreciate it.
>> Have a good evening.

668
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,719
» Good evening.

669
01:26:57,199 --> 01:27:05,920
» Next up, we will have a presentation
from Commander Tennyson on the uniform

670
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:10,000
crime statistics for the city of Camaro.
>> Good evening, mayor, council, and staff.

671
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:14,800
Thank you so much for giving me the
opportunity to talk about crime in

672
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:19,199
Camaro last year. I can tell you as a
resident who lives here and as someone

673
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:25,440
who is very familiar with the crimes
that happen, Camaro remains a very safe

674
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:29,040
place to live and to work and to raise
families. Uh the first couple of slides

675
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,480
are going to be things that you've all
heard before, but it's worth reminding

676
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:36,960
for those who are watching or listening
for the first time. The sheriff's office

677
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:41,679
fully transitioned away from uniform
crime reporting uh in 2024 and we went

678
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:46,880
over to the new national incidentbased
reporting system. So we now have two

679
01:27:44,719 --> 01:27:52,320
years worth of data so we can look and
compare apples to apples from 24 and 25

680
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:56,400
to get an idea of how we're doing from
crime. There's a lot of different things

681
01:27:53,840 --> 01:28:00,639
that came through neighbors but the
bottom line is we have a lot more data

682
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:05,280
that we now are required to collect and
report to the FBI. But that extra data

683
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:10,480
also gives us more data points to
analyze and to help us develop good

684
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:15,199
strategies in fighting crime.
Our categories within NYERS are crimes

685
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:19,360
against persons, crimes against
property, and crimes against society.

686
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:24,480
And I'll talk a little bit about each of
those and what they look like

687
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:29,040
year-over-year from 24 to 25.
Before I talk about that though, I do

688
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:34,239
want to remind uh everybody watching and
remind council here that crime rates are

689
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:37,679
affected by many many things and we have
a tendency to want to look at our city

690
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:41,920
and compare them to our neighboring
cities, but there are so many factors

691
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:46,480
that make Camaro different from our
neighboring cities that we have to be

692
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:52,080
really careful when we do that. Uh we do
report on a per 1,000 resident basis,

693
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:56,560
but what we also understand is that our
daytime population isn't just based on

694
01:28:54,480 --> 01:29:00,960
our 70,700
residents. We have a lot of businesses

695
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,560
here that employ people that bring them
in. We have the outlets that bring in a

696
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:07,920
lot of people. So, our population is
very different during the day than it is

697
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:14,320
at night. And there are many, many
factors that influence crime. We did see

698
01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:18,320
a few uh positive and negative crime
trends this year. Uh this last year,

699
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:22,159
they include increases in assaults, and
I'll talk about those a little bit

700
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:26,480
later. We saw a significant decrease in
motor vehicle thefts, and as you might

701
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:31,679
imagine, we see continued organized
retail theft activities, primarily along

702
01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:35,760
the theft corridor of Ventura Boulevard.
One of the first things I want to talk

703
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:41,679
about is looking at a six-year snapshot
of our calls for service. We did have an

704
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:45,600
uptick last year from 14,000 up to
14,500,

705
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:50,400
but we still remain lower than we have
in the last six years. These calls for

706
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:55,040
service are not just when somebody calls
for a deputy. It also includes um

707
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:59,120
traffic collisions. What it doesn't
include though is self-initiated,

708
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:03,840
proactive policing and self-initiated
activity. And our deputies do a lot of

709
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:08,800
that because that proactive policing is
really what goes a long way to making us

710
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:14,480
safe. So these here are just the calls
for service where somebody calls needing

711
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:18,800
a police officer to respond.
Now the first category I want to look at

712
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:22,320
is crimes against persons. And a couple
of things stand out to me is that are,

713
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:28,239
you know, we had the same amount of
homicides we had last year. I'm grateful

714
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:34,960
that we only had one, but one is one too
many. um in in Camaro in 2025 on New

715
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:38,719
Year's uh I think it was the day after
New Year's was a murder suicide between

716
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:43,920
an elderly couple where there had been a
terminal illness diagnosis

717
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:48,639
uh and it was tragic and we work to
ensure that we don't have any in Camaro

718
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:52,960
but sometimes we can't control all of
those things that happen behind closed

719
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:58,159
doors. We did have 20 consensual sex
offenses down from 35 the year before.

720
01:30:56,239 --> 01:31:03,280
Nine of those consensual sex offenses
were rapes. I reviewed each one of those

721
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:06,000
rapes. Uh they were all uh not that it
makes it any better, but just some of

722
01:31:04,639 --> 01:31:10,400
the demographics on it was known
offenders uh to victims. So we didn't

723
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:14,159
have stranger rapes. Those are something
that would uh really cause us a lot of

724
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:18,000
concern if we had something like that.
Uh we did not have that and we didn't

725
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:23,440
discover any trends with the ones that
we did have or with any of the sex

726
01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:30,239
offenses that we did have. The assaults
are where we saw a significant increase.

727
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:36,239
We went from 452 assaults in 2024 up to
496 assaults last year. They were driven

728
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:41,600
primarily in assaults related to
domestic violence cases, but we also saw

729
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:45,840
assaults related to child abuse go up.
Those are not primary arrests. What we

730
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:49,280
saw is secondary arrests. So, for
example, if our deputies are out

731
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:53,679
conducting proactive policing and we
arrest a drunk driver, if they have a

732
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:58,080
child in the car, we are moving
aggressively to add an arrest charge to

733
01:31:56,480 --> 01:32:02,800
whoever is driving the car if there's a
child in the car. And we did see those

734
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:06,560
numbers go up quite a bit last year. Uh
we also saw an increase in resisting,

735
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:10,239
obstructing, and delaying peace
officers. And pretty much those three

736
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:15,280
categories, the domestic violence, the
child abuse, and resisting police

737
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:19,040
officers, uh, made up the majority of
the increases that we see in crimes

738
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:23,440
against persons.
I want to highlight for you really quick

739
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:27,760
a case involving crimes against persons.
Uh, this investigation happened at the

740
01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:31,760
beginning of last year and our
detectives started investigating a an

741
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:35,600
assault with a deadly weapon. This was
between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Uh

742
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:40,320
when they learned of that domestic
violence case, they came to understand

743
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:46,400
that the girlfriend pointed what the
victim believed to be an AR-15 rifle at

744
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:50,159
the victim. Our special enforcement unit
team, which is our plane closed unit,

745
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:53,920
got involved and they were able to
author a search warrant and get that

746
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:58,000
search warrant approved by a local
judge. They ended up serving that search

747
01:32:56,080 --> 01:33:03,679
warrant at a residence and they followed
up at a storage facility. They located

748
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:08,400
42 firearms, including a 50 caliber
rifle and thousands of rounds of

749
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:11,440
ammunition. Uh, the girlfriend was
arrested, but it turns out that the

750
01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:14,960
boyfriend, who was initially the victim
of the assault with a deadly weapon, was

751
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:19,920
a convicted felon, and he was not
allowed to be in possession of or around

752
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:25,600
ammunition or weapons, and he was
knowingly, so he got arrested as well.

753
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:30,000
But this picture shows those 42 uh
firearms and thousands of rounds of

754
01:33:27,679 --> 01:33:34,400
ammunition. and it was a great case um
by our detectives and by our special

755
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:38,400
enforcement unit.
The next category we look at is crimes

756
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:44,239
against property. And you can see we're
pretty static across the board in all of

757
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:48,159
our crimes against property. Um this is
an area crimes against property where

758
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:52,320
proactive policing really can have a
positive impact and I'll talk about that

759
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:57,679
in a moment. The most the most notable
improvement was in the area of thefts of

760
01:33:54,800 --> 01:34:04,320
motor vehicles. You can see we had 72
vehicles stolen in 2024 and 45 stolen in

761
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:09,520
2025. And much of that decline we
attribute to identifying the right

762
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:14,480
crooks who we know have backgrounds in
stealing vehicles and targeting them

763
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:17,760
aggressively for probation searches and
targeting them for stays in custody

764
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:22,000
because when they are in jail, they're
not able to be out on the streets

765
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:26,400
stealing cars and victimizing residents.
You can also notice on here that one

766
01:34:23,679 --> 01:34:29,600
area um you know when we have 800 crimes
or 700 crimes that we're measuring, it

767
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:34,880
looks like just a little blip on the
radar, but it is one worth talking

768
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:40,159
about. Arson, we had four arson in 2025.
We had none in 2024. Uh in three of

769
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:45,040
those arsonants, we discovered that
transients were using fires either to

770
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:48,960
cook or to keep warm. And they were
inser observed by passerbys who reported

771
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:53,040
it to us. And we were able to go out and
make contact. And we did make some

772
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:58,000
arrests. One of the arson was a person
who was suffering from a serious mental

773
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:01,679
breakdown and who burned uh started a
fire in the home where she was living.

774
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:07,280
Arrests were made in all four cases of
the arson that happened.

775
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:10,639
Organized retail theft. This is one that
we always talk about in Camaro because

776
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:16,000
we have the Camrio Premium Outlets. We
have the Camrio Town Center with um

777
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:21,600
Target and with Home Depot. um they are
still and likely always will be the most

778
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:26,080
prominent crime in Camaro and a lot of
that does revolve around organized

779
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:31,360
retail theft. It's not just shoplifts.
In 2025, we did have 370 shoplifts

780
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:35,440
between just between the Cameo Premium
Outlets and the Cameo Town Center, which

781
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:40,480
is Target and Home Depot.
177 of those shoplifts were organized

782
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:44,560
retail theft in nature. What does that
mean to you? When we talk about ORT,

783
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:48,960
we're talking about groups working in
concert to commit the thefts. They move

784
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:52,800
from store to store. They even move from
city to city or region to region. We've

785
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:57,360
had people from Northern California who
make their way down the coast committing

786
01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:01,520
organized retail theft. Some of these
groups create distractions in order to

787
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:06,320
commit their thefts, while others are
less strategic uh about their thefts and

788
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:11,440
more bold. They just go in and they uh
take armfuls of property. Um, some of

789
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:15,280
them take advantage of their knowledge
that a lot of loss prevention uh

790
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:19,840
employees from some of these
corporations, they have to call their

791
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:23,040
headquarters before they can report it
to police. And so, a lot of the crooks

792
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:28,159
know that and they take advantage of
that. It also gives us a disadvantage at

793
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:32,800
times when we're trying to identify and
take people into custody. Our community

794
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:37,199
resource unit works uh handinhand though
with the outlet mall security and are

795
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:40,719
constantly building good relationships
with the loss prevention to try and

796
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:44,320
minimize that time delay between the
crime occurring and the crime being

797
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:49,440
reported to us. And we've seen a lot of
success in that area. Uh most often in

798
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:53,760
organized retail theft, the crooks are
looking for specific merchandise like

799
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:57,679
laundry detergent or beauty supplies.
Other items they look for are cell

800
01:36:55,360 --> 01:37:02,719
phones, clothing, purses, and even
high-end alcohol.

801
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:07,760
We still do have the organized retail
theft task force that's operating on a

802
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:12,719
grant run by the sheriff's office and we
do see them operating in Camaro

803
01:37:09,679 --> 01:37:16,880
proactively at our outlets. Um when I
talked about proactive policing having

804
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:21,119
an impact on property crimes, this is
that one area that I'm talking about.

805
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:25,520
Uh, our two-person directed enforcement
unit also works proactively at the

806
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:30,080
outlets and within the community to
build relationships and with outlet

807
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:34,719
security and individual stores loss
prevention again to help reduce that

808
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:39,520
time delay between crimes occurring and
us coming unseen. Uh, the organized

809
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:43,920
retail theft task force, they're
instrumental in helping us fight crime.

810
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:48,480
Um, we also are looking to build a
reputation at the outlets. We want it to

811
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:50,960
be known throughout this region that the
Camrio Police Department doesn't mess

812
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:55,040
around and that the Ventura County
Sheriff's Office doesn't mess around.

813
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:58,639
That word gets out when crews come up
from Los Angeles. And when they think

814
01:37:57,119 --> 01:38:04,560
they're going to get off with a ticket
because they've kept their theft under

815
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:08,159
felony levels, but we use other crimes
like conspiracy when people work in

816
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:10,800
concert together to say, "No, that's a
felony in Ventura County and you're all

817
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,679
going to jail over that. You're not
going to get the ticket that you get

818
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,639
elsewhere." So, our organized retail
theft, our directed enforcement unit

819
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:20,400
really help us to develop that
reputation and I do know that that

820
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:24,480
reputation makes its way out into the
public. Um, from the OT task force last

821
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:28,960
year, they conducted a number of
proactive blitz operations uh at the

822
01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:33,119
outlets working with our team and outlet
security. They've done proactive patrol

823
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:36,159
on a random basis and they conduct
investigations into some of the crews

824
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:42,320
that come into our area. And their
efforts last year resulted in 54 uh

825
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:46,800
separate arrests out at the outlets.
I also want to highlight a cargo theft

826
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:53,679
investigation that our detectives did.
We had a spree of stolen vehicles last

827
01:38:49,360 --> 01:39:00,239
year. Happened around the end of uh 2024
and up to New Year's Eve where several

828
01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:04,960
vehicles were stolen um from various
locations in Camaro, but also even in

829
01:39:02,719 --> 01:39:08,639
neighboring cities. Uh they broke into
businesses at some locations with box

830
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:13,440
trucks and stole some of the
merchandise. In one instance, they stole

831
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:17,920
a big rig here in Camaro, and they drove
over to one of our large uh warehouse

832
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:22,000
stores, hooked up to one of their
trailers, their tractor trailers full of

833
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:26,480
merchandise, and made off with that
tractor trailer full of merchandise. In

834
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:31,520
those few days, the total losses that we
saw here was over $500,000 in

835
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:34,800
merchandise. Our detectives started
investigating and through the use of

836
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:39,520
quite a few investigative techniques,
including license plate readers, we

837
01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:43,119
identified where the suspects were
dropping the merchandise off. We did

838
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:46,880
some other search warrants and they
identified several suspects who were

839
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:51,119
involved uh and we were able to track
them from the various locations that

840
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:54,400
they operated in in Southern California.
We worked with our organized retail

841
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:59,119
theft task force, the California Highway
Patrol, and the Drug Enforcement

842
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:02,000
Administration uh agency, and we exited
executed search warrants at several

843
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:07,840
locations throughout Southern
California. Uh we made arrests and we

844
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:12,480
seized approximately $1.5 million in
stolen property. So, not just the

845
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:15,760
property from our thefts up here, but we
discovered that there were stolen

846
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:20,880
property from other nationwide
organizations like Amazon, Samsung, TJ

847
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:26,080
Maxx, Converse, and others. and we
intercepted these goods as they were

848
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:30,080
being sent uh to Tijana for resale. The
picture you see here is one of our

849
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:34,800
trucks, our stake bed truck, and all of
those boxes are Samsung TVs that were

850
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:38,480
stolen off of a trailer, not here in
Camaro, but but other uh other

851
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:42,400
locations. And this case is just a
testament to the tenacity and skill

852
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:46,800
level of our detectives and to the great
relationships that they build with our

853
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:51,600
local, state, and federal partners uh
that allow us to bring these crooks to

854
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,600
justice.

855
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:57,840
Crimes against society is an interesting
category. In all of our other crime

856
01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:03,360
rate, our crime uh categories, we look
for crime rates to be going down. Um

857
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:07,199
that's a sign of a safe community.
Crimes against society actually is

858
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:10,800
different because this is really a
measure of proactive policing. This is a

859
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:15,199
new category that we never did before
underi uh uniform crime reporting. And

860
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:19,440
so this is drug and narcotics violations
that our deputies makes, equipment

861
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:23,840
violations and weapon law violations.
And so again, this is a measure of

862
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:27,440
proactive policing. And as I mentioned
at the beginning of this presentation,

863
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:30,639
we've got some areas where we're we've
identified some really good trends and

864
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:36,239
some areas where we've identified some
negative trends. And this is an area

865
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:41,600
where for me um because of one thing
I've learned in 27 years of of policing

866
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:46,159
tells me about the impact that drugs and
drug use has on crime in our

867
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:50,880
communities. Our biggest crime category
is lararseny theft and over the years I

868
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:56,320
have personally experienced that drug
users commit a disproportionate amount

869
01:41:53,119 --> 01:42:00,719
of theft related crime in our community.
So for me this is a category where I

870
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:05,199
want to see the numbers go up not down.
I want our deputies out making proactive

871
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:12,000
uh traffic enforcement stops, looking
for those drug users who would be intent

872
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:16,080
on stealing from our community members
and for folks who have went out and

873
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:20,480
earned their property on their own. So,
this is an area we're going to focus on

874
01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:23,760
this year. Uh I'm I'm already seeing an
increase so far in the first three

875
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:28,000
months of this year. We're up about 8%
in arrests and I want to see that trend

876
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:33,360
continue as we move forward. So, what
does a crime against uh society look

877
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:39,600
like? This photograph right here in this
description is what it looks like. We

878
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:43,360
received a tip uh from a uh an anonymous
person, Cam Rio, that there was an uh an

879
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:47,600
Oxnard resident who was selling drugs in
our city. We did enough investigative

880
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:52,639
words work to obtain a search warrant, a
residential search warrant u signed by a

881
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:56,400
superior court judge. Our Camrio police
uh detectives, our sheriff's office

882
01:42:54,800 --> 01:43:01,679
narcotics unit conducted a search
warrant at uh the residence. They loaded

883
01:42:58,480 --> 01:43:06,960
located 236 grams of cocaine, 35 grams
of methamphetamine, psilocybin

884
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:11,520
mushrooms, and nearly $75,000 in cash
proceeds from the narcotic sales. So,

885
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:15,360
this is the kind of thing that proactive
policing gets you. It prevents drugs

886
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:19,040
from getting on the street and getting
in the hands of people who shouldn't

887
01:43:16,719 --> 01:43:23,520
have it. uh and it sends a message to
people that we won't tolerate this in

888
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:28,320
Camaro.
One of the other important things for me

889
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:35,360
to share with this council was our
response times. You can see that late uh

890
01:43:32,719 --> 01:43:40,639
2018 1920 we were looking really good
and then we saw a very noticeable

891
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:44,800
increase in response times. Well, last
year we saw a very significant decrease.

892
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:49,920
And the reason why I wanted to share
this and and point it out to this

893
01:43:46,239 --> 01:43:55,760
council was because 2025 in in fall of
2024, you all approved the addition of a

894
01:43:53,199 --> 01:44:00,000
cover sergeant car and of a cover car
for our patrol deputies, particularly to

895
01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:04,719
provide coverage out on the east end of
town. And you did that because um the

896
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:09,360
data showed us that our deputies
workload was not balanced. And we

897
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:13,920
believe that if we had additional
resources, we could bring down the

898
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:18,719
response times. So 2025 was the first
year that we had both of those cars

899
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:23,840
fully staffed for the entire year. And
you see the results. It's a significant

900
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:28,320
decline. Now, these 20 seconds to some
people might not seem to a lot. might

901
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:32,639
not seem to be a lot, but when you're
that person and you're on the phone with

902
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:36,480
911 and you need a police officer at
your house immediately because something

903
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:42,000
is happening, that 22nd makes a big
difference. And so I I thank council for

904
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:47,280
listening to us and for supporting us in
this because it is having an impact on

905
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:51,360
safety in our community.
Uh, one of the uh getting near the end,

906
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,480
one of the topics I want to talk to you
about, again, an area where we need to

907
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:58,880
see improvement is in traffic
collisions. You can see we've got four

908
01:44:56,159 --> 01:45:05,199
years in a row of increases in traffic
collisions. Uh significantly actually

909
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:08,480
over the four years we're up to 754
traffic collisions. So what we've done

910
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:11,760
is we know that our traffic collisions
primarily happen at our intersections.

911
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:15,520
And so we looked at our top five
intersections. We assigned a traffic

912
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:19,760
investigator to look at each one of
those intersections. They go out

913
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:23,600
personally, make observations to see
what kind of violations they're seeing

914
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,880
out there, to look at the engineering
around it, to look at the environment,

915
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:31,360
to see if there's anything we can do.
They look at the data. Each traffic

916
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:34,960
collision that we investigate in Camaro,
we determine what the primary collision

917
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:40,400
factor is. So, we look at that primary
collision factor from the perspective of

918
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:44,480
that intersection. Um, we make calls to
our traffic engineers, our partners over

919
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:47,840
here in Cam Rio at the city, and if we
have suggestions, maybe we need to

920
01:45:46,159 --> 01:45:51,600
lengthen the time that a light stays
yellow because we're seeing some issues

921
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:54,639
with that. Um, maybe we need to have
signage there because we have a lot of

922
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:57,920
pedestrians walking and we need to
highlight that we have crosswalks. We're

923
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:01,600
working on all five of those
intersections and we've come up with

924
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:05,440
some suggestions. We've come up with
some enforcement uh changes that we're

925
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:09,360
making to address those to bring those
traffic collisions down. One of those

926
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:13,679
things is quite frankly we need to write
more tickets. We have our third year in

927
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:17,679
a row where our ticket writing for
hazardous violations is down

928
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:21,440
significantly. I don't think it's an
accident that our traffic collisions are

929
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:25,840
up significantly. Study after study
after study shows the direct correlation

930
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:30,000
between those two. So, we are looking to
write more traffic citations. Um it

931
01:46:28,480 --> 01:46:34,480
doesn't necessarily make our residents
happy, but safety is something that's of

932
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:38,080
paramount important. Roadway safety is
of paramount importance. So, we're going

933
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:42,880
to be looking to do that. Uh, we will be
looking to transition two of our four

934
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:46,480
traffic cars. They drive around in
patrol Taho

935
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:51,440
motorcycles. We already have two
motorcycle units in Cam Rio. We're

936
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:56,320
looking to add two more. Um, we've we've
made the purchase of those bikes

937
01:46:53,040 --> 01:47:00,800
already. And we know that being on
motorcycles allows them to be more

938
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:04,880
nimble. It allows them to catch up to
violators much quicker than those patrol

939
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:08,639
Taho. It allows them to sit in places
where they're not quite as noticeable.

940
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:13,360
Um, you've heard of the saying black and
white fever. A lot of times when people

941
01:47:10,719 --> 01:47:17,040
see a police car, those Taho are giant.
They're marked. People are on their best

942
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:21,199
behavior. We like that, but we can't be
in every place all the time. And so, we

943
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:26,800
will be transitioning two of our patrol
Taho into patrol motorcycles to help us

944
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:32,480
uh write additional hazardous violation
citation and help bring these collision

945
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:38,560
numbers down once and for all.
Uh just a snapshot, we did issue 3,700

946
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:42,320
total uh citations last year for speed,
distracted driving, and other hazardous

947
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:47,440
be behavior. We did three grant-f funed
DUI checkpoints. I'm happy to say that

948
01:47:44,719 --> 01:47:52,880
we only made three arrests for DUI and
15 citations. We would love for our

949
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:57,280
community to stop driving drunk so that
we saw zero arrests at those DUI

950
01:47:54,880 --> 01:48:01,679
checkpoints. Uh I'm not unhappy when I
see no arrests after uh you know a

951
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:06,639
Friday night with five or six hours. I'm
really happy because we screen thousands

952
01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:09,840
of call cars coming through those and if
we can get those cars coming through

953
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:14,239
there and people are not driving drunk
that's a win for us. That's a positive.

954
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:19,920
Uh we did focus on DUI collisions and
arrests last year and we made 206 DUI

955
01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:23,520
arrests. One area you um may have
already heard that we're focusing on and

956
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:29,119
that you will see us continue to focus
on is ebike safety. We did presentations

957
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:34,080
to over 1500 students. We have started a
very aggressive enforcement campaign the

958
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:37,920
last three weeks uh four weeks uh where
we are targeting certain schools, the

959
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:41,600
high schools in particular and the
middle schools where we're seeing the

960
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:46,719
most egregious activity and we are
taking a zero tolerance approach to any

961
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:49,760
violations with kids on bicycles. Um,
the information has been put out to

962
01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:52,719
parents over and over and over through
press releases through our school

963
01:48:51,199 --> 01:48:56,239
district, both Pleasant Valley and
Oxnard Union. They've been great

964
01:48:54,080 --> 01:49:00,159
partners in getting information out and
we still haven't seen a correction in

965
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:05,280
behavior. And so over the last few
weeks, we have towed some unlawful

966
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:08,960
ebikes. We will continue to do that. We
will continue to issue citations uh

967
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:13,679
because we need to change the behavior
to make this uh our kids ride those

968
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:17,520
bicycles much more safely throughout our
community.

969
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:23,199
I'll give you some time to read this
while I talk. Uh, but this is one area

970
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:28,480
where I am most proud of the work that
our deputy sheriffs do. Uh, community

971
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:33,119
engagement is critical for us to
continue to maintain trust in our

972
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:36,960
community, to continue to maintain the
positive relationships that we have, and

973
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:41,040
to continue to build upon those
relationships. This list is not

974
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:45,119
comprehensive, but it's a snapshot of
just some of the things that we could

975
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:50,239
do. And it's all I could honestly fit in
two columns on one slide. Um, but I

976
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:54,400
could add a whole another slide with two
more columns of things that we do. Uh,

977
01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:58,000
it doesn't matter who you are in this
community community, what your status

978
01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:01,520
is, whether you live here, whether you
go to school here, whether you work

979
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,000
here, or whether you're just visiting.
Our deputies are everywhere in this

980
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:10,080
community engaging people in a positive
way. And I'm telling you because I've

981
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:14,800
personally been out doing it. I've been
at schools. I've been at churches. I

982
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:18,639
coach youth sports. And I've I've been
able to do that in uniform. And I think

983
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:24,320
it's a great way to build relationships
between parents and kids. Uh the

984
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:28,560
positive relationships that we build uh
and the diversity of our outreach is

985
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:32,560
second to none. I don't think anybody
does it the way Camrio Police Department

986
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:36,320
does. And I think it pays off every
single day when we continue to be

987
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,960
deliberate about building positive
relationships and providing

988
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:43,040
opportunities for people to come and
meet us and for us to be meeting people

989
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:47,520
as well.
And this is just a little picture of

990
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:53,440
some of the things we've done. Uh we
really focus heavily on engaging with

991
01:50:50,639 --> 01:51:00,239
kids. We adults sometimes have our minds
made up and it's hard to change our

992
01:50:55,920 --> 01:51:04,800
minds, but kids uh kids are they're
open-minded and we have a great time

993
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:08,719
reading to kids, going to coffee with
the cops at their schools, letting them

994
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:13,679
jump on our motorcycles, play with our
canines, and just overall building great

995
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:16,960
relationships with the kids.
So, moving forward, what are some of the

996
01:51:15,199 --> 01:51:21,679
challenges for law enforcement?
Obviously, recruitment, retention, and

997
01:51:18,719 --> 01:51:27,280
wellness is is going to be a a problem
for us. It's going to be a challenge for

998
01:51:23,199 --> 01:51:30,400
us all the time. Um, we do work hard to
recruit only the best at the Ventura

999
01:51:29,119 --> 01:51:35,119
County Sheriff's Office. We've got a
great track record of that. The process

1000
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:39,199
is rigorous. It's incredibly difficult
to become a deputy sheriff. Only one out

1001
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:44,880
of every hundred applicant ever becomes
a deputy sheriff, and those numbers are

1002
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:49,760
pretty incredible. Um, wellness is a new
focus for our agency. Uh let's be

1003
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:53,760
honest, this is a difficult job. There's
a tremendous amount of stress that goes

1004
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:57,760
along with it. It's not just stress on
the deputy sheriff's, it's stress on our

1005
01:51:55,440 --> 01:52:01,280
professional staff members and perhaps
more importantly, it's stress on our

1006
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:06,320
family members at home. And so we've
made a big push focusing on wellness,

1007
01:52:03,679 --> 01:52:09,760
offering up opportunities to hear other
people who have made mistakes and hear

1008
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:12,719
how they've dug out from under those
mistakes that they've made. we make

1009
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:16,880
those opportunities available for family
members as well and I think we've done a

1010
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:21,119
great job on that and we will continue
to focus on that moving forward. Uh

1011
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:25,040
technology AI and their ethical and
transparent use are critical to

1012
01:52:22,719 --> 01:52:28,719
providing enhanced public safety here.
We've talked about LPRs in the last few

1013
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:34,239
months and we continue to see uh
incredible benefit they provide. I'm I I

1014
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:39,920
think I would be remiss in not reporting
to this council that last week we had a

1015
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:44,480
homicide uh in Oldtown Camaro.
And within a very short time, our

1016
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:49,599
license plate reader is what identified
the suspect in that homicide. That guy

1017
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:53,119
was in custody before we all woke up and
went to work the next morning. They're

1018
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:57,280
an incredible tool. They're a valuable
tool when used ethically and when used

1019
01:52:55,440 --> 01:53:03,040
transparently. And we do that at the
Ventura County Sheriff's Office.

1020
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:06,800
Um all of uh all of the things we talked
about here today go towards public trust

1021
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:12,239
and transparency. Uh the police
throughout our country operate in highly

1022
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:16,560
polarized environments and us ensuring
transparency is critical for us to

1023
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:21,040
maintain and build trust. We communicate
to the c to the public in as close to

1024
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:25,920
real time as possible to ensure they
have up-to-date information on critical

1025
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:29,920
incidents as they happen in Camaro. We
are voluntarily cooperative and

1026
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:34,000
transparent when things don't go right,
as evidenced by our previous discussion

1027
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:37,840
on license plate reader data. The work
we do is available for all to see

1028
01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:42,719
through our public transparency
dashboards on the sheriff's website,

1029
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:47,360
capturing data on arrests, contacts, use
of force incidents, and much much more.

1030
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:52,239
Uh we have cameras that capture every
single one of our interactions with the

1031
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:57,119
public, both worn on our deputies chest
and in our patrol cars. Nearly every

1032
01:53:54,639 --> 01:54:01,440
single move our deputy sheriffs make is
recorded on camera. We open our doors to

1033
01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:06,080
members of the public through two two
citizenmies every year. I think we

1034
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:10,159
graduated about 50 plus people in our
citizens academy last year. And we have

1035
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:14,159
we open up to ride alongs. We have
dozens of ride alongs by members of the

1036
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:19,119
public as long as you can pass the small
background check that we do. Uh all of

1037
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:24,239
this pays off with a community that's
incredibly supportive of the work our

1038
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:27,280
women and men do. and we will not take
that support for granted. We will

1039
01:54:25,599 --> 01:54:31,440
continue to be present for the public in
very meaningful ways that continues to

1040
01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:36,080
build trust and legitimacy in our
community. Uh with that, I want to

1041
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:40,159
reiterate that we have some of the most
compassionate, hardworking, and

1042
01:54:38,239 --> 01:54:43,599
professional women and men working at
the Camrial Police Department. From our

1043
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:47,520
professional staff working behind the
scenes to keep the PD running to our

1044
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,960
uniform deputies on the streets
operating as the face of law

1045
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:54,560
enforcement, our team is committed to
the high level of service that our

1046
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:57,679
community has come to expect from us. I
thank the council. I thank the city

1047
01:54:56,239 --> 01:55:02,239
manager and assistant city manager and
the rest of the staff at city hall uh

1048
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,440
for the support they've shown the
sheriff's office and the Camero Police

1049
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:08,960
Department over the years. And I'd be
very happy to answer any questions you

1050
01:55:07,119 --> 01:55:13,760
all might have.
>> Thank you. I'm going to call on Mr.

1051
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:16,760
killed D first because I saw him writing
nonstop.

1052
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:26,000
» Um, just briefly, um, Eric, I have to
say that, well, first of all, laundry

1053
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:30,880
detergent, that was kind of interesting.
I I would have never guessed that.

1054
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:36,400
That's kind of kind of interesting. Um,
I was here when we approved the funding

1055
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:42,960
for the cover car. I'm pleased to see
that um, it's effective. I thought it

1056
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:47,599
would be and I was uh uh you know very
pleased that uh we look at this an

1057
01:55:45,199 --> 01:55:56,400
investment in public safety and I think
that's uh that's worked out as as such.

1058
01:55:51,520 --> 01:56:02,480
Um I also um our way of giving back to
our uh police department here. We try to

1059
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:06,719
give way give back in many separate ways
but not the least of it and one of the

1060
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:13,440
things that I'm so so happy that we've
been able to do is the L day dinner and

1061
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:21,440
I believe we're one if not the only city
that still uh provides this and it's uh

1062
01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:26,320
um a thankfulness and a thank thanking
our

1063
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:30,560
officers and all of the folks that work
at the police department sworn sworn or

1064
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:36,320
nonsworn
uh to let them know that they matter,

1065
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:42,960
that they care. We care for them. We
look at them as family even though it's

1066
01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:48,239
a contract from the Ventura County. We
look at them as our own born and bred

1067
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:54,000
public servants of Camaro. And I'm
really happy that uh this council and

1068
01:56:51,119 --> 01:56:58,560
previous councils are able to afford
that that honor and privilege to those

1069
01:56:56,320 --> 01:57:04,480
folks that are able to uh to attend
that. So um always look forward to this.

1070
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:10,639
Thank you for your stellar performance
here and your eloquence. Uh you make a

1071
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:14,880
very complicated subject for me
relatively easy and I commend you that.

1072
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:19,520
And if you would commend all your staff
there at the uh Cambria Police

1073
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:24,400
Department that uh they matter, they
care and we're going to do our best to

1074
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:30,080
support them to the best of our ability.
>> Thank you, Council Member Kildy. And I I

1075
01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:34,480
would like to add that um one of our uh
most expectant days is the law law night

1076
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:38,159
dinner. Our people look forward to it
all year long. We've been planning it

1077
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:41,440
now for the last month and a half. We're
uh very excited about it. I also like to

1078
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:46,400
add that a lot of the deputy sheriffs
who work out of Camrio uh police

1079
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,440
department live here in Cam Rio and when
they leave for promotion or other

1080
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:54,960
assignments, they all want to come back
here. Um they feel the support that we

1081
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:58,800
have from city hall and they feel the
support that we have

1082
01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:03,280
» uh from our residents in this city. It's
I've worked in every contract city. It's

1083
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:05,040
unlike uh what we have here and we
appreciate that.

1084
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:11,199
» Thank you,
>> Council Member Santangelo.

1085
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:16,480
» Thank you. Just a couple comments. Um I
was really happy to see the decrease in

1086
01:58:13,119 --> 01:58:21,840
the response times because I know um we
had quite a few presentations on it from

1087
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:26,880
you if I remember correctly. Um and I
think it was a really important addition

1088
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:31,360
to the police force in our city and it
made sense and I'm um really glad to see

1089
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:37,199
that it panned out the way we thought it
would and that it's really um brought

1090
01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:40,880
down those response times. Um, I also
just found it really interesting that

1091
01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:45,119
the more tickets you give, the less
collisions. So, that's just just found

1092
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:48,159
that really interesting. Um, and my
question to you is, is there anything

1093
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:51,920
that the city can do to better support
you and your efforts?

1094
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:55,760
» Um, like I've said, Council Member
Santangelo, we do feel very well

1095
01:58:53,599 --> 01:59:00,080
supported. Um, but we are coming up on
budget season, so um, be careful what

1096
01:58:58,159 --> 01:59:03,760
you wish for because, you know, I may
have I may have a request for you all

1097
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:08,320
coming up.
Thanks for that.

1098
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:13,920
» Just so you know, Mr. City Manager,
that's your job to vet the requests. Mr.

1099
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:18,719
Trembley.
Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Eric, wonderful

1100
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:23,440
presentation. Um the three most
important things that hit home to me is

1101
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:29,360
number one on the response times and
being able to take uh a 7.13

1102
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:37,440
uh minute response time and bring it
down to 6.76 and have it equate to what

1103
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:42,560
was occurring even precoid is a success.
um echo what Susan and Kevin said in

1104
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:45,920
their eloquent comments about the
importance of the response times. And

1105
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:51,760
you can actually see it in the
statistics because if I wrote this down

1106
01:59:47,760 --> 02:00:00,800
correctly, 370 shoplifts at the outlets
and the and the um target center um 177

1107
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:06,239
OT related, the top 26 suspects arrested
responsible for 251 shoplifts. So what

1108
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:10,800
happens when that occurs? deputies are
all going over to that area town and I'm

1109
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:15,199
privileged to be elected from the area
town where there wasn't the east side

1110
02:00:12,639 --> 02:00:19,280
where there wasn't as good coverage. Uh
and I think that has been uh that has

1111
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:25,199
been rectified and from a contextual
standpoint it also shows I think the

1112
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:31,440
public the importance this city spends
in excess of $20 million per year in

1113
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:36,719
public safety. It is the most it is it
is the the highest level of spending uh

1114
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:41,599
in our general fund revenue on on any
matter. I think it uh makes a real

1115
02:00:39,679 --> 02:00:45,440
statement as to this council's and if
it's okay I'm going to be collective

1116
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:50,000
collective commitment to public safety
because I know all of my colleagues are

1117
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:54,800
really focused on our on our public
safety standings. So and that's about

1118
02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:59,599
onethird of our general fund revenues
each year. So that over that that that

1119
02:00:57,679 --> 02:01:03,920
states the importance uh on traffic
collisions. I like the fact that you're

1120
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:08,159
transitioning two Taho
officers. And I do want to note I think

1121
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:11,840
in 2024
um I know you had at least one

1122
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:17,119
motorcycle officer who was out for an
extended period of time uh and you had

1123
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:21,280
issues trying to fill that. So hopefully
2025 it just got a little bit better in

1124
02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:26,000
terms of coverage and and going from
there. And then finally on community

1125
02:01:23,599 --> 02:01:30,159
engagement,
um, you know, we had one PowerPoint

1126
02:01:27,679 --> 02:01:33,679
slide and I think Eric kind of cut it
short. I mean, he had both columns

1127
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:38,000
filled.
I'm not aware of any other law

1128
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:44,480
enforcement agency
and I know quite a few that has the

1129
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:49,760
extent of outreach that VCSO has and
Camaro Police Department. So, I really

1130
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:53,920
want to compliment you. Uh compliment uh
commend your deputies, all of your

1131
02:01:51,679 --> 02:01:59,360
staff, everybody uh at the sheriff's
office, everybody at Camaro PD. Uh thank

1132
02:01:56,400 --> 02:02:03,520
you because this council I know puts, if
it's okay to say it, collect know that I

1133
02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:08,639
know that this council puts a real
premium on public safety. It's like our

1134
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:13,199
number one issue. So, thanks for a a
very interesting uh educational report.

1135
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:16,400
Keep making progress.
>> Thank you, Council Member Treble. And if

1136
02:02:14,719 --> 02:02:21,199
I can add one thing, I did not talk
about it uh in the presentation, but I

1137
02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:26,960
know it is in there. Those 26 arrestes
who committed over who created over 250

1138
02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:32,960
victims uh at our outlets in Camrio Town
Center, all were from outside the city

1139
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:36,480
of Camrio. Every one of them,
>> Madame Vice Mayor,

1140
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:43,760
» uh thank you. Thank you, Chief Jennison,
for your very thorough presentation and

1141
02:02:39,599 --> 02:02:48,639
also for the very noble service that you
and your team provide to our

1142
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:55,119
constituents here in the city of Camaro.
Um, I will share a personal story. When

1143
02:02:51,520 --> 02:03:04,000
I was a little girl, I would often spend
my summers out in Wilmington, San Pedro,

1144
02:02:59,679 --> 02:03:09,760
that area. And uh
it it was quite often sadly that we can

1145
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:14,639
hear gunshots
um or that we could hear neighbors being

1146
02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:19,119
very violent.
And I remember experiencing some of that

1147
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:23,440
and and as a little girl being like
seven or eight years old thinking, "Oh

1148
02:03:21,119 --> 02:03:28,719
my gosh, we need to call the police."
and family members,

1149
02:03:26,719 --> 02:03:32,639
grandparents and my theos who I lived
with, they would almost say like, "Well,

1150
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:37,760
the police are not really going to come.
We can try calling, but they're not

1151
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:42,639
going to come." And many times and and
actually now I do have um some family

1152
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:48,880
members who went into policing um who
lived in in those areas. Um, and many

1153
02:03:45,679 --> 02:03:55,599
times I know that I will be criticized
for being quote too pro police. And my

1154
02:03:52,639 --> 02:04:01,679
answer is, what is the alternative?
Because I've seen the alternative

1155
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:06,400
and I think Sheriff Fryhoff put it best
when I recently saw him and he said,

1156
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:12,960
"Public safety is for everyone." And so
I think that is uh the continued goal. I

1157
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:16,960
am very proud of the work that you're
doing um that your team is doing. Of

1158
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:20,159
course, I think with everything there's
always room for for improvement and I'm

1159
02:04:18,719 --> 02:04:25,119
glad that you've always been open to
that.

1160
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:29,040
A question that I do have is regard and
I think you answered a little bit of

1161
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:34,000
that uh but in terms of the different
crimes.

1162
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:39,599
Do we have any data on
who is from Camrio and who folks are not

1163
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:43,760
regarding the crimes against property
people and society or are we able to

1164
02:04:42,639 --> 02:04:48,960
search for that data?
>> We can search for that data. I can tell

1165
02:04:45,599 --> 02:04:53,199
you um from the outlets and the theft
related perspective uh the the

1166
02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:58,639
overwhelming majority are coming from
outside the city. Uh even many from

1167
02:04:55,840 --> 02:05:02,000
outside the county. Los Angeles imports
a lot of crime here. I've said it

1168
02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:07,199
before, our outlets are a great
destination for shopping

1169
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:12,239
» for good guys and bad guys. And so we do
import a lot of crime because of the

1170
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:16,159
outlets. Um, but they've shown a a real
willingness to partner with us to try

1171
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:21,520
and make it the best and safest
experience for people to come there uh

1172
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:25,679
and shop. Um, I can tell you, you know,
I talked about the increase in domestic

1173
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:30,320
violence related crimes and arrests. The
domestic violence are generally local.

1174
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:34,800
There are people who are already living
here. Um, a lot of the DUI arrests are

1175
02:05:33,199 --> 02:05:38,239
people who are driving from a local
establishment home. So, it's kind of

1176
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:41,679
crime dependent.
>> Okay. So some of those crimes we do see

1177
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:45,440
a lot of people who are residents here
who live here who are the suspects in

1178
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:49,040
those crimes and who are arrested and in
other crime categories we see people who

1179
02:05:47,199 --> 02:05:52,880
are from outside the city who are
arrested for those crimes. So we do we

1180
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:55,599
do know and it kind of depends upon
crime.

1181
02:05:53,599 --> 02:06:01,119
» Okay. Thank you so much. And my other
question is I think I'm I'm trying to

1182
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:08,320
understand this. So, at the Camaro
outlets, you said that if there is

1183
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:11,679
um if if they're stealing um something,
they need to call the loss prevention

1184
02:06:10,159 --> 02:06:14,159
before calling the police. That sounds
really odd to me.

1185
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:17,440
» Yeah, it is really odd. Sounds odd to
us, too. And we work with them all the

1186
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:21,599
time uh on figuring out ways we can do
that better. But, you know, each one of

1187
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:25,040
those stores is owned by the individual
corporation, and they all have their own

1188
02:06:23,119 --> 02:06:29,599
corporate policies. Uh some of the
corporations, they're really aggressive.

1189
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:34,719
I will tell you, Target has incredible
loss prevention officers and they are

1190
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:38,560
very quick to call us and that's why our
number one arrest location is Target.

1191
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:42,480
Other ones have to call a corporation
wherever that might be, explain what the

1192
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:45,840
problem is and then get permission
before they call us. We're working with

1193
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:51,119
them with them on that to try and find
solutions and workarounds to that. But,

1194
02:06:48,079 --> 02:06:54,159
you know, it is uh at times a hindrance.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. That's all that

1195
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:57,920
I have. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh, quick question,

1196
02:06:56,320 --> 02:07:01,920
Commander.
You're going to add two motor officers,

1197
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:04,239
but it's not going to cost the city any
more money, right?

1198
02:07:03,119 --> 02:07:10,239
» That's correct. It's actually going to
save us money in the long run. Uh, a

1199
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:15,360
patrol Tahoe is a more expensive vehicle
to purchase and to upfit. We get about

1200
02:07:12,719 --> 02:07:19,679
100,000 miles out of a patrol Tahoe. Our
motorcycles, we don't get as many miles

1201
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:23,920
out of them, but it takes longer to to
mile them out, and they cost about half

1202
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:29,119
the price of a patrol Tahoe. So, we'll
probably get four to six years driving a

1203
02:07:26,639 --> 02:07:32,400
motorcycle at about half the cost of a
of a Tahoe.

1204
02:07:30,639 --> 02:07:36,400
» And we're not adding any staffing.
You're just moving two traffic

1205
02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:38,560
enforcement officers out of the Tahoe
onto motorcycles.

1206
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:40,960
» That's correct.
>> Hopefully, they get good training.

1207
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:46,800
» They will.
>> Um, I appreciate the community outreach.

1208
02:07:43,599 --> 02:07:52,880
Um, I'm aware of it because I have a
daughter involved in the education field

1209
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:56,880
in Camaro and I know the frequency of
your school resource officers and other

1210
02:07:55,199 --> 02:08:01,360
activities, the coffee with the cops
that you do at all the schools and it

1211
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:07,199
mirrors something that I thought a long
long time ago is we can influence our

1212
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:12,079
young people and create the
relationships instead of like if you see

1213
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:16,719
that police officer over there and you
do that again, I'm going to tell him.

1214
02:08:14,239 --> 02:08:21,760
And I'm glad that's no longer a common
theme amongst most parents. It was a

1215
02:08:19,119 --> 02:08:29,280
common theme with my mother at one time,
but um you may have experienced that. Um

1216
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:32,880
I also think that what my other council
members said, I don't think there's

1217
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:38,719
another police department in this county
or probably just about anywhere that has

1218
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:43,679
the community outreach efforts that the
Camrio Police Department does for this

1219
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:48,400
city. And I know that it's a common
theme that we're a third of the cost of

1220
02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:54,719
the city's general fund, but if you went
to a fullervice city, it'd be 50% of

1221
02:08:51,679 --> 02:08:58,719
your cost of your general fund. So, I
think we're getting good bang for the

1222
02:08:56,079 --> 02:09:06,560
buck. And I do have to thank you
publicly for not sharing crime stats

1223
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:11,040
from 1999 to 2004 to compare them to
today. And this is the first time you

1224
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:15,599
haven't done that. And I appreciate it.
All of my council members I've had the

1225
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:20,000
opportunity to serve with on the public
safety and emergency preparedness

1226
02:09:17,599 --> 02:09:24,079
committee and I am proud to say from
firsthand experience, there has been

1227
02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:28,079
nothing but whole who wholesale support
from this entire council when you've

1228
02:09:26,400 --> 02:09:32,480
brought requests to the council. There
has been no there's been a lot of

1229
02:09:29,679 --> 02:09:37,199
questions um and it dealt with educating
about what a 24-hour car was or an

1230
02:09:35,119 --> 02:09:41,199
overlap car, but there has never been
any hesitation on the part of any of my

1231
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:47,199
colleagues up here in the last three
years to listen, to make the decision,

1232
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:53,440
and to do what we could to support the
police department to provide a safe

1233
02:09:50,239 --> 02:09:57,040
community for the residents of Camaro.
And thank you for that.

1234
02:09:55,440 --> 02:10:02,000
» Thank you.
Next, we will move to the consent

1235
02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:04,960
calendar items E through G. Madame
clerk, are there any public comments on

1236
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:12,800
consent?
>> There's one uh speaker Spencer Richie,

1237
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:15,520
» I just noted the council comments. Did
we do those?

1238
02:10:13,599 --> 02:10:20,239
» Oh, I'm sorry.
>> You can get her, but she's got about 10

1239
02:10:17,360 --> 02:10:26,000
minutes. Um, council comments. I did I
checked it off. Maybe it was

1240
02:10:23,199 --> 02:10:30,400
wishful thinking. Um, Mr. Trembley, how
about you go first?

1241
02:10:28,159 --> 02:10:35,760
» Sure. Uh, meetings attended since March
25, uh, the March 26, uh, meeting of the

1242
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:42,480
policy committee with council member
Santangelo on an April 3 VCTC. And

1243
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:50,159
that's it for me, Mr. Kild.
>> Yes. Um, meetings attended April 2nd, we

1244
02:10:46,719 --> 02:10:55,360
had a VRSD uh, meeting. I'd like to
thank Eric Zets uh, for last council

1245
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:59,760
meeting uh, being here. And if any
council members uh would like to take a

1246
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:03,280
tour of our landfill, let me know. We
can certainly set it up. And that's all

1247
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:09,440
I have.
>> Council member Santangelo.

1248
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:14,400
» Thank you. On March 26th with Council
Member Trembley, I went to the policy

1249
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:19,679
committee on April 2nd, I had Clean
Power Alliance board of directors. And

1250
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:24,639
earlier today, April 8th, was the mobile
home rent stabilization ordinance ad hoc

1251
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:27,360
committee with Dr. Martinez Bravo. And
that's all I have.

1252
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:31,520
» Vice Mayor,
>> thank you. April 1st, I met with mobile

1253
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:38,320
home constituents to hear their
concerns. And then April 8th, I today

1254
02:11:35,599 --> 02:11:42,159
was the mobile home ad hoc uh committee
or meeting with council member

1255
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:46,320
Santangelo. And I just wanted to thank
all of the home residents who have

1256
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:51,440
voiced their concerns either via email
or who were here earlier. Um, just

1257
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:55,520
wanted to say that I hear you and please
know that I remain committed to uh

1258
02:11:53,760 --> 02:12:01,119
supporting our community and working in
the best interest of of our Camrio

1259
02:11:58,159 --> 02:12:07,280
residents. Um, and actually I would also
like to take this opportunity to proudly

1260
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:12,400
congratulate Camrio's very own Gabriella
Hakis and the entire UCLA uh women's

1261
02:12:10,159 --> 02:12:16,480
basketball team on their incredible
championship victory. Super proud of

1262
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:23,119
them. Thank you.
Thank you. On April 2nd, I had an RDP

1263
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:27,520
meeting. I've had several meetings,
nonreportable. I do want to talk about a

1264
02:12:25,679 --> 02:12:32,880
business visit. One of the things that's
enjoyable this year is going out with

1265
02:12:30,079 --> 02:12:38,480
our manager of economic development, um
the city manager, and Bradley, our

1266
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:44,159
director of community development, and
visiting some of the high- techch

1267
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:48,960
companies that I wasn't always aware of.
I've lived here since 1979 and have

1268
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:53,599
driven by a number of these buildings a
100 million times and never realized

1269
02:12:51,599 --> 02:12:59,760
what was there. And this past week along
with uh Mr. Ramirez and George Winkler

1270
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:06,159
and Bradley, we visited a local company,
Lucix Corporation, which was founded by

1271
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:10,639
a husband and wife in Camaro on their
dining room table or their kitchen

1272
02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:16,400
countertop. And it's a high-tech
communication industry that has their

1273
02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:22,960
devices on satellites, etc. And they
employ 105 people in Camaro. And they

1274
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:29,040
expect to have fairly significant growth
over the next five years. And the people

1275
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:33,360
they're employing are engineers. They're
highpaying

1276
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:39,040
um jobs and they're trying to recruit
people. In fact, we met some young

1277
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:43,920
people from was it Georgia Tech?
um which made our director of community

1278
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:50,320
development happy. It's his alma mater.
But um another company we visited

1279
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:54,800
recently has 300 employees and there are
again many engineers and high-paying

1280
02:13:52,480 --> 02:14:00,960
jobs. So we have a lot of opportunity in
Camaro and I look forward to opportunity

1281
02:13:58,159 --> 02:14:06,639
moving forward. Um I just have a
question for the city manager. Um, when

1282
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:12,800
does the emergency ordinance on the rent
stabilization expire and when can we

1283
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:17,679
expect to see this matter on the agenda
so we can address it?

1284
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:21,520
Uh, we we are working on it diligently.
I think we're going to put the places on

1285
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:25,679
the next next uh council meetings
agenda. As far as expiration, I'd have

1286
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:30,239
to defer to the city clerk city attorney
on that.

1287
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:38,000
» I believe it's April 20th or 21st. So,
right before the next meeting. Yeah,

1288
02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:44,400
» thank you.
And did Spencer come back? She did not.

1289
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:49,040
So, we will
move on to item H. But before we take up

1290
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:54,239
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's go back to the
consent calendar.

1291
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:57,280
» Madame Clerk, other than Spencer, any
speakers on the consent calendar?

1292
02:14:56,079 --> 02:15:01,360
» No other speakers.
>> Hearing none. Any questions from

1293
02:14:59,199 --> 02:15:04,239
council? Move.
>> I'll second.

1294
02:15:02,239 --> 02:15:07,199
» We have a motion in a second. Roll call,
please.

1295
02:15:05,440 --> 02:15:09,280
» Council member Santangelo,
>> yes.

1296
02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:11,119
» Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo,
>> yes.

1297
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:13,040
» Council member Kildy,
>> yes.

1298
02:15:11,599 --> 02:15:14,639
» Council member Trembley,
>> yes.

1299
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:17,440
» Mayor Tennyson,
>> yes.

1300
02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:19,599
» And with that, we will take Thank you.
I'm sorry. Go ahead.

1301
02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:24,719
» That passes unanimously.
>> I I got a note that asked for a break.

1302
02:15:21,760 --> 02:15:30,599
So, with that, we will take a 10-minute
recess before we go on to item H on the

1303
02:15:27,599 --> 02:15:30,599
agenda.

1304
02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:35,719
6:45 and 30 seconds.

1305
02:24:01,359 --> 02:24:08,399
I see all of my fellow council members
are back. So, we will reconvene the

1306
02:24:06,479 --> 02:24:15,040
meeting of the Camrio City Council and
the Camrio Sanitary District one minute

1307
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:20,000
early. Next is item H, the Camrio
Sanitary District Water Reclamation

1308
02:24:17,359 --> 02:24:24,560
Plant Upgrades Program and Manager
Services. And I believe Mr. Clutzel,

1309
02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:30,080
this is yours.
>> Yes. Thank you. Thank you, mayor and

1310
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:34,640
city council. Also acting as the Camrio
Sanitary District Board of Directors.

1311
02:24:32,560 --> 02:24:38,640
This item is to consider awarding an
agreement for professional owners

1312
02:24:36,479 --> 02:24:44,720
advisor services for the water
reclamation plant upgrades project.

1313
02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:49,040
First, we'll cover some brief background
information. The water reclamation plant

1314
02:24:47,120 --> 02:24:54,399
or WRP
treatment capacity is rated at 7.25

1315
02:24:52,080 --> 02:25:01,200
million gallons a day and the current
flow and treatment is at about 3.5

1316
02:24:58,160 --> 02:25:05,840
million gallons a day uh which is
treated to tertiary standards with the

1317
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:10,800
effluent reused for agriculture and
landscape irrigation. Original

1318
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:16,240
construction is nearly 70 years old with
various expansions and upgrades over the

1319
02:25:13,359 --> 02:25:22,160
years. The plant's been wellmaintained,
but now needs significant upgrades.

1320
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:26,640
A wastewater master plan completed by
WSC in 2022 provided planning level

1321
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:31,680
analysis and initial condition
assessment of the plant to focus more

1322
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:36,240
specifically on what upgrades upgrades
are needed and develop alternatives to

1323
02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:40,000
accomplish those upgrades.
Hazen and Sawyer was then hired and

1324
02:25:38,319 --> 02:25:44,240
built further on the master plan
analysis, meeting on site with plan

1325
02:25:42,240 --> 02:25:48,640
operations staff and preparing numerous
detailed technical reports to develop

1326
02:25:46,720 --> 02:25:54,319
off-site and on-site alternatives for
the upgrades, including initial design

1327
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:58,800
and budgetary considerations.
Additionally, Fuelman Rolap and

1328
02:25:56,240 --> 02:26:02,880
Associates has been hired to develop a
long range financial plan to determine

1329
02:26:00,880 --> 02:26:09,560
the district's funding capacity for the
project and to lay out a financial

1330
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:09,560
roadmap to fund the needed upgrades.

1331
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:18,800
As for the location, the WRP is at the
end of Howard Road on an approximately

1332
02:26:14,560 --> 02:26:23,680
20 acres along Kaneo Creek and there's
room on those 20 acres to accommodate

1333
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:28,560
upgrades on site by rehabilitating
existing facilities and/or constructing

1334
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:33,120
replacement facilities.
The district also owns 50 acres

1335
02:26:31,359 --> 02:26:38,160
immediately to the west, which allows
the opportunity to fully explore all

1336
02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:43,800
options for upgrading a plant, including
possible use of a portion of the 50 acre

1337
02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:43,800
site.

1338
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:50,399
The WRP upgrades project is a
generational investment into critical

1339
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:54,720
infrastructure, the largest capital
project in the city and district's

1340
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:58,720
history. The sheer size and complexity
of the project along with significant

1341
02:26:56,720 --> 02:27:03,600
funding requirements call for an
independent owner's adviser to represent

1342
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:08,479
the city's interest throughout the
entire project.

1343
02:27:06,479 --> 02:27:13,600
The key characteristics that an owner
adviser brings to the project include

1344
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:19,359
technical expertise and overall project
management.

1345
02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:24,720
The owner advisor is an independent
element uh which is independent from uh

1346
02:27:22,720 --> 02:27:30,319
contractors and vendors involved in the
project

1347
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:35,760
and it provides a bridging of the gap
between complex technical requirements

1348
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:41,439
and decision milestones.
The owner's adviser also uh is acting in

1349
02:27:39,040 --> 02:27:47,920
the interest to of the city to protect
those interests many varied interests

1350
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:54,240
and ensures the project success.
More specifically, an owner's adviser is

1351
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:58,399
needed for this WRP upgrades project to
provide technical expert assistance to

1352
02:27:56,399 --> 02:28:04,240
navigate the very large complex
multi-year project through completion

1353
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:08,640
and also to explore feasibility of
opportunities to maximize the WRP

1354
02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:12,720
effluent reuse
and also achieve affordability and

1355
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:16,880
regulatory compliance throughout the
entire project.

1356
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:22,319
The owner's adviserss needed to identify
and coordinate the preferred procurement

1357
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:26,080
method for the upgrades
and then we'll provide continued

1358
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:33,680
collaboration of all stakeholders
involved including WRP operations staff

1359
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:38,960
to take the steps forward toward hiring
an owner's adviser. staff formed a

1360
02:28:36,240 --> 02:28:42,560
project governance team or gov team made
up of staff from multiple departments

1361
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:47,280
including city manager's office,
finance, facilities, fleet and

1362
02:28:44,560 --> 02:28:52,000
technology, public communications,
public works, capital projects and

1363
02:28:49,439 --> 02:28:56,080
sanitary district operations.
The gov team has collaborated very

1364
02:28:54,000 --> 02:29:01,359
closely every step of the way thus far
and will continue to guide the project

1365
02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:05,439
through to completion.
The process to select and hire an

1366
02:29:03,359 --> 02:29:10,240
owner's adviser included the gov team
developing and advertising a request for

1367
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:14,479
proposals to provide a specific scope of
services.

1368
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:23,200
Five five proposals were received from
Jacobs, Corollo, Parsons, MKN, and M&S.

1369
02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:28,080
An ad hoc committee made up of the mayor
and council member Trembley and three

1370
02:29:25,439 --> 02:29:33,760
gov team members thoroughly reviewed all
five proposals, conducted interviews,

1371
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:37,920
and selected Jacobs based on their
approach to the project, their

1372
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:43,960
qualifications, and direct experience
providing the same services for similar

1373
02:29:40,960 --> 02:29:43,960
projects.

1374
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:51,439
Staff worked very closely with Jacobs to
refine the scope of work, which provides

1375
02:29:48,640 --> 02:29:57,280
a holistic evaluation of the WRP
upgrades program sequenced in phases to

1376
02:29:54,880 --> 02:30:03,600
reduce risk and maintain rateayer
affordability.

1377
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:09,840
Phase 1A is a onewater affordability and
technical analysis producing a

1378
02:30:06,319 --> 02:30:14,640
recommended WRP upgrades and procurement
method.

1379
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:19,439
Then phase 1B will provide detailed
design and procurement documents for the

1380
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:23,359
WRP upgrades
followed by phase 2 which will provide

1381
02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:28,120
technical support and construction
management of WRP upgrades.

1382
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:36,800
Staff is recommending award of the phase
one scope of work to Jacobs which will

1383
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:42,399
be will be performed over the next 20
months or so. The scope of work for

1384
02:30:39,359 --> 02:30:48,960
phases 1B and phase 2 will be finalized
as phase 1A is completed with award of

1385
02:30:45,280 --> 02:30:54,800
those phases at that later time.
Task one covers program management

1386
02:30:52,080 --> 02:31:00,960
including many things uh along in
including uh regular project meetings.

1387
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:05,120
Task two is technical studies and
program definition.

1388
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:10,560
Task three covers environmental and
regulatory compliance.

1389
02:31:07,439 --> 02:31:15,760
Task four is for financial and economic
support.

1390
02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:20,640
Task five is identifying and moving
towards a selection of the project

1391
02:31:17,359 --> 02:31:26,560
delivery method. And task six includes
targeted technical studies. Uh there's

1392
02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:30,160
very many details and and that make up
each of these tasks that are further

1393
02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:35,760
defined in the scope of work that's
attached to the uh proposed agreement.

1394
02:31:33,040 --> 02:31:40,960
Uh this task six includes numerous
in-depth technical studies targeted at

1395
02:31:38,240 --> 02:31:44,800
specific items including optimization of
plant operations, alternatives for

1396
02:31:42,960 --> 02:31:50,720
preliminary treatment, disinfection and
odor control, automation of process

1397
02:31:47,439 --> 02:31:54,880
controls, flooding impacts, energy use,
and exploring all potential

1398
02:31:52,479 --> 02:32:00,720
opportunities for cost-effective reuse
of the treated effluent.

1399
02:31:58,000 --> 02:32:05,359
Taken in total, the phase 1A scope of
work is structured to complete a

1400
02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:10,479
onewaterbased affordability and
technical analysis resulting in a

1401
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:14,479
recommended WRP upgrade program and
procurement method for CSD board

1402
02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:19,200
consideration.
The one water approach is focused on

1403
02:32:16,560 --> 02:32:24,560
maximizing the use of all local water
supplies in the most cost-effective way

1404
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:29,760
to secure a reliable portfolio of water
for the city well into the future while

1405
02:32:27,359 --> 02:32:35,760
minimizing impacts to water and
wastewater rate payers.

1406
02:32:32,880 --> 02:32:41,600
The initial next steps would be a
project kickoff workshop workshop with

1407
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:46,720
the CSD board along with governance and
chartering efforts to get things moving

1408
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:51,280
uh amongst the various tasks that are
listed here.

1409
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:56,800
Another important element of this
project going forward is uh continuous

1410
02:32:54,240 --> 02:33:01,680
effort related to the funding for the
program. This effort will be coordinated

1411
02:32:59,359 --> 02:33:07,120
between Jacobs providing the technical
and cost estimated information um in

1412
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:11,920
lockep with Felman looking at the
financing options and then our rate

1413
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:21,840
consultant Rafelis
um uh folding in their rateayer impacts

1414
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:25,439
to that uh funding u process.
So with that brings us to the

1415
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:29,520
recommendation before you to authorize
the execution of a professional services

1416
02:33:27,520 --> 02:33:34,880
agreement with Jacob's project
management company for owners advisor

1417
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:39,600
and program manager services for the WRP
upgrades project. That concludes my

1418
02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:44,399
report and be happy to answer questions.
>> Thank you Mr. Clatzel. I'm going to open

1419
02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:47,120
up with Council Member Trembley because
of his No,

1420
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:51,920
» I have comments. I don't have questions.
>> Oh, no questions. Oh wow. Okay, Mr. Kild

1421
02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:58,240
questions.
>> Yeah. Um

1422
02:33:54,319 --> 02:34:06,160
David, um I I' I've been here a while
and I can remember when

1423
02:34:02,319 --> 02:34:14,080
we had um attempted to do an upgrade
there and the results were less than

1424
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:23,359
favorable to what we had hoped
uh for. So my question here is

1425
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:29,120
what if we don't do this? In other
words, if we don't do this, does it hold

1426
02:34:26,880 --> 02:34:33,520
us more
um in a situation where what we're

1427
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:40,720
trying to do here, and keep in mind it's
the most expensive project the city's

1428
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:44,479
ever attempted. And if we don't do this,
our

1429
02:34:42,399 --> 02:34:50,319
predictability of being successful in
what we're trying to do, does it go down

1430
02:34:46,960 --> 02:34:56,560
exponentially? And if it does,
um, how would that affect us and how

1431
02:34:54,080 --> 02:35:01,520
we're trying to do not only in a
quality,

1432
02:34:58,319 --> 02:35:07,920
uh, situation, but a coste effective,
uh, situation and providing, as we all

1433
02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:13,280
know, this necessary service to, um, our
rateayers,

1434
02:35:09,120 --> 02:35:18,240
» right? Um yeah, the the approach that is
is being proposed here with this

1435
02:35:15,520 --> 02:35:24,960
extensive scope is to do exactly that is
to is to reduce minimize if not remove

1436
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:32,160
the risk that we end up with a similar
situation as the past. Um what this is

1437
02:35:27,760 --> 02:35:39,920
structured to do is uh very holistic
uh analysis of all elements that need to

1438
02:35:36,479 --> 02:35:45,760
be considered uh with the extensive uh
need for upgrading uh pretty well the

1439
02:35:42,960 --> 02:35:52,080
entire operations of our of our
reclamation plant. So, um that's where

1440
02:35:49,600 --> 02:35:58,080
uh the gov team and along with um
working through this scope to refine it

1441
02:35:54,080 --> 02:36:04,479
with Jacobs to um identify what really
does need to be done to reduce that risk

1442
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:09,359
and and put us on a path towards success
for the for the best cost-effective

1443
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:12,720
um solution for the upgrades that are
needed.

1444
02:36:11,200 --> 02:36:18,080
» Thank you. That's all I have, your
honor. Vice Mayor.

1445
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:23,840
» Uh, Mr. Clottel, thank you very much for
the presentation. I have a a quick

1446
02:36:20,960 --> 02:36:30,720
question. Owner's advisor, is that the
same thing as an owner's representative?

1447
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:38,240
» Uh, similar, right? Um, in in that we
use advisor in that um the technical

1448
02:36:34,399 --> 02:36:43,680
expertise element that is is needed um
is more than just a representative. Um

1449
02:36:40,880 --> 02:36:51,520
it it's uh it it's an adviser that
represents the city uh represents uh the

1450
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:56,640
city's interests um in in all aspects of
of the uh project of the analysis that

1451
02:36:54,080 --> 02:37:01,439
we'll be looking at. So, um I guess
that's the best way to describe it is

1452
02:36:58,319 --> 02:37:09,439
it's uh and and Jacobs is a firm that
brings an incredible uh breadth and span

1453
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:15,359
of technical expertise in uh all areas
uh that that will be needed here. Uh so

1454
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:20,000
it's that it's that technical advisor uh
element to be that representative uh for

1455
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:23,040
the for the city for the district moving
forward.

1456
02:37:21,200 --> 02:37:30,319
» Okay. Thank you. I was doing some
research on my own trying to figure that

1457
02:37:24,960 --> 02:37:35,840
out. Um, and also for clarification, the
recommendation from today's actions,

1458
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:40,240
that would be just to uh focus on the
phase one, that first part.

1459
02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:41,840
» That's correct. The phase 1 A, correct?
>> 1 A. Okay.

1460
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:44,479
» Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you so much. I have no

1461
02:37:43,359 --> 02:37:49,600
further questions.
>> Council member Santangelo? None. Um, I

1462
02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:54,399
want to follow up on Mr. Kild's question
and and the way I understood it is in

1463
02:37:52,399 --> 02:37:59,200
the past we didn't have the results we
wanted when there were upgrades to the

1464
02:37:56,000 --> 02:38:03,840
WRP but I think part of it was a risk
side of things if we do nothing it's my

1465
02:38:02,399 --> 02:38:09,280
understanding that a lot of our
facilities and equipment are at or near

1466
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:13,680
the end of their life cycle. So if we
did nothing

1467
02:38:11,439 --> 02:38:19,200
from this moment forward what would the
risks be to the city?

1468
02:38:15,359 --> 02:38:24,160
» Right. Uh the risk would be um
several items but um having failure of

1469
02:38:22,319 --> 02:38:30,960
our infrastructure out there then that
would not um treat our wastewater as it

1470
02:38:28,479 --> 02:38:36,479
needs to be treated on a continuous
basis 247 uh putting us in jeopardy of

1471
02:38:34,880 --> 02:38:42,960
um complying with the regulatory
requirements that we are under.

1472
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:47,120
You also um said when you made the
recommendation of Jacobs in your

1473
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:54,479
presentation that they had done similar
projects of this scope and scale for

1474
02:38:51,040 --> 02:38:57,920
other um entities. Do you have an idea
what some of those other entities are?

1475
02:38:56,640 --> 02:39:04,240
» That's correct.
>> Yes. Um and and specifically this owner

1476
02:39:00,720 --> 02:39:09,200
advisors uh um element of providing
those services. Uh most recently one

1477
02:39:06,960 --> 02:39:14,479
very very closely similar project is for
Los Virgin's water district and in their

1478
02:39:12,479 --> 02:39:21,760
um uh I'm not sure if I'm using the
exact right term one water um uh uh

1479
02:39:18,240 --> 02:39:27,520
project very extensive water treatment
um uh process that they're going through

1480
02:39:25,359 --> 02:39:32,880
multi-million dollar project and and
Jacobs has successfully led them through

1481
02:39:29,359 --> 02:39:38,800
that owners advisors uh process.
Thank you,

1482
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:43,040
madame clerk. Any public comments?
>> Yes, I have two people that want to

1483
02:39:40,319 --> 02:39:46,520
speak. First, Doug Boyce, followed by
Spencer Richie.

1484
02:39:49,920 --> 02:39:53,720
» Welcome, Mr. Boyce.

1485
02:39:54,960 --> 02:40:04,160
» Good evening,
Mayor Tennyson and rest of the council

1486
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:09,840
and staff. Um I real quickly uh before I
get started on this um you mentioned in

1487
02:40:07,600 --> 02:40:15,359
your report please Chief Eric that it
was a 20 second improvement in response

1488
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:23,120
time. It's actually 36 seconds. That's
huge as several of the council members

1489
02:40:18,479 --> 02:40:27,920
also pointed out. So and uh as Dr.
Martinez Bravo mentioned, I think we

1490
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:33,280
have a lot to celebrate with uh one of
our lady uh basketball players leading

1491
02:40:30,720 --> 02:40:38,000
the Bruins to their first national
championship. She was the top scorer in

1492
02:40:35,439 --> 02:40:42,960
that game. That's huge. I I'm not I'm
come here tonight not as a a a hater or

1493
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:49,200
a complainer, but as somebody that wants
full transparency in this this is a

1494
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:54,399
massive U project. And so my first
question that I jotted down was very

1495
02:40:51,359 --> 02:41:01,600
similar to Dr. Martinez Bravo. Is this
$4 million contract just for phase 1A?

1496
02:40:58,319 --> 02:41:05,439
And if that's true, then then I suspect
that there's going to be a lot more for

1497
02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:10,560
the rest of the phases. But I think that
is that true? Anyway, that's my question

1498
02:41:08,319 --> 02:41:15,680
um confirmation. And then the second
that I had real briefly is at this stage

1499
02:41:13,760 --> 02:41:20,560
I would think that there's already some
sort of an engineer's estimate for the

1500
02:41:17,359 --> 02:41:26,640
total cost of the project. Uh for full
transparency I would like the public to

1501
02:41:23,439 --> 02:41:29,880
be aware of that. Thank you.
>> Thank you

1502
02:41:31,120 --> 02:41:34,520
» Spencer Richie.

1503
02:41:43,920 --> 02:41:54,560
All right. Hello.
Um, first off, my apologies for um not

1504
02:41:53,040 --> 02:42:02,319
showing up the public comment earlier
when I was called. Um,

1505
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:07,840
I had to use the restroom. Um two,
um

1506
02:42:05,120 --> 02:42:14,720
I you know whatever the the you know the
city goes with for

1507
02:42:10,399 --> 02:42:24,160
um for upgrading and
keeping in repair our um our reclamation

1508
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:31,040
plant on Howard. Um
that is something that you don't want to

1509
02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:37,760
skimp on. Um definitely like make sure
you are getting just a good job of it in

1510
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:42,560
general because that is that's literally
life-saving infrastructure. like, you

1511
02:42:39,680 --> 02:42:49,280
know, between
the fact that again, as climate chaos

1512
02:42:46,479 --> 02:42:54,240
ramps up, obviously
um

1513
02:42:51,120 --> 02:43:01,040
um we're going like because that's going
to cause our water income to be to grow

1514
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:08,080
more and more inconsistent. And then
also especially in light of the whole

1515
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:13,280
like Iran um started horm limiting you
know how much fertilizer can get out to

1516
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:17,760
the world um that and like you know the
poop ponds at Caly Channel Islands those

1517
02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:22,479
will be more and more important sources
of local fertilizer as well. So in

1518
02:43:20,960 --> 02:43:30,000
general
yes we should absolutely you know like

1519
02:43:27,520 --> 02:43:35,120
make sure we are getting the best of the
best for our um

1520
02:43:33,359 --> 02:43:42,560
you know our facilities like our water
reclamromation plants and stuff. Um, I

1521
02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:48,479
think that is a very good use of our
taxpayer funds and what our taxpayer

1522
02:43:45,439 --> 02:43:53,040
funds should absolutely be spent on.
What and you know if there's any

1523
02:43:50,960 --> 02:43:56,560
questions about oh my gosh where are we
going to get the money for that because

1524
02:43:54,399 --> 02:44:02,880
you know like there often is you know
with this city because again fiscal

1525
02:43:59,680 --> 02:44:09,200
responsibility is like it's pretty much
always been a huge you know city

1526
02:44:04,800 --> 02:44:13,359
government value. Um
I don't

1527
02:44:11,279 --> 02:44:21,600
a you know a way you could probably free
up more money is by getting rid of the

1528
02:44:17,200 --> 02:44:28,479
contract with flock. Um again that is
that's blowing us a lot of city money.

1529
02:44:24,479 --> 02:44:35,120
Um, we never asked for it and again that
is just we know that ICE and outofstate

1530
02:44:32,880 --> 02:44:42,560
law enforcement has access to that
material. We again that is serving

1531
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:48,880
Camearans to ICE on a silver platter. So
yeah that thank you. Have a nice day.

1532
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:54,479
» Thank you Spencer.
Now we will

1533
02:44:51,920 --> 02:44:57,800
» Now we will go to council comments and
Mr. Trembley.

1534
02:44:58,319 --> 02:45:06,160
» Thanks uh Mr. Mayor. Um I I have several
comments but but in light of Mr. Boyce's

1535
02:45:04,880 --> 02:45:10,560
question, let me just pose it to Mr.
Clottel and then I've got a number of

1536
02:45:07,680 --> 02:45:16,319
comments. Dave, we've been looking at
estimates um for this project uh for the

1537
02:45:14,640 --> 02:45:20,960
last several years. How would you
describe where we are at at this point?

1538
02:45:18,399 --> 02:45:26,800
just in terms of general estimates,
>> right? The the work performance so far

1539
02:45:22,880 --> 02:45:33,359
has uh produced some uh a range uh
bookends if you will of of um options of

1540
02:45:30,479 --> 02:45:40,240
alternatives for upgrades and um
budgetary estimates for those. Um so uh

1541
02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:46,080
we don't have anything more certain than
that and that's this next step of

1542
02:45:43,200 --> 02:45:52,640
further refining and and identifying a
recommended um upgrade alternative uh

1543
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:56,240
would would produce a more refined cost
estimate number.

1544
02:45:54,000 --> 02:46:00,800
» Well, when we were looking when we're
looking on the prior studies that have

1545
02:45:58,080 --> 02:46:05,200
been done, we were estimating somewhere
in the $200 million range overall.

1546
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:08,000
Correct.
>> Correct. Yes. Um,

1547
02:46:06,479 --> 02:46:12,319
» and that was three years ago,
>> right?

1548
02:46:09,120 --> 02:46:18,319
» So, from a contextual standpoint, that's
where we are. I I think it's fair to

1549
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:21,840
say, although it's very difficult to pin
that down, especially if we end up

1550
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:25,279
incrementally approaching this project.
>> Correct.

1551
02:46:22,399 --> 02:46:31,279
» Okay. All right. Um,
my comments are as follows. Um, the the

1552
02:46:28,399 --> 02:46:35,840
ad hoc committee, uh, as Mr. Clausel
reported, uh, has been an integral part

1553
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:43,200
of this process. The mayor and I have
spent many many hours uh in the drafting

1554
02:46:40,479 --> 02:46:47,920
of the requests for proposals, sitting
through the interviews, discussing the

1555
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:55,680
proposals in depth to understand the
opportunities uh for us. Um the studies

1556
02:46:52,160 --> 02:47:02,160
that need to be done now in order to
assess our water resiliency.

1557
02:46:58,479 --> 02:47:05,279
um and the one water concept. Um there
has been a lot of back and forth

1558
02:47:03,680 --> 02:47:11,439
internally as well as with the
consultant. Um uh we're trying to put

1559
02:47:08,960 --> 02:47:15,520
ourselves in the best position possible
regarding the scope of work and the

1560
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:20,800
cost.
Um

1561
02:47:17,680 --> 02:47:27,359
I have not I've I've practiced law and
represented wa public wastewater

1562
02:47:23,279 --> 02:47:34,800
agencies uh for many decades. And you
have we received proposals from very

1563
02:47:32,080 --> 02:47:37,520
high quality firms. Jacobs is one of
them. In fact, I haven't had the

1564
02:47:35,920 --> 02:47:43,520
privilege of working with Jacobs in the
past. Um but I will tell you that they

1565
02:47:41,279 --> 02:47:47,600
are a very high quality firm
reputationally and the proposals that we

1566
02:47:46,240 --> 02:47:53,439
received and the interviews that we
conducted uh showed a lot of forethought

1567
02:47:50,560 --> 02:47:59,279
in terms of of what consultants wanted
to provide to us. The reason that this

1568
02:47:56,240 --> 02:48:03,520
is the right approach and Martito
whether you characterize as owner's

1569
02:48:01,439 --> 02:48:06,800
advisor or owner's representative
owner's representative at least

1570
02:48:04,800 --> 02:48:11,120
traditionally has been more on the
construction project management side

1571
02:48:09,120 --> 02:48:18,160
when there's already been for example a
more traditional design bid build

1572
02:48:13,760 --> 02:48:22,240
process here by contrast as an owner's
advisor that we're bringing them in

1573
02:48:20,240 --> 02:48:27,200
right upfront
because ultimately we may end up doing

1574
02:48:24,640 --> 02:48:32,319
this project based on the decisions we
make as a board. We may end up doing

1575
02:48:29,600 --> 02:48:36,880
this project incrementally both from an
efficiency as well as a cost standpoint.

1576
02:48:34,399 --> 02:48:41,760
And we've we've got all kinds of work
ahead of us, the five of us, to make

1577
02:48:39,760 --> 02:48:47,920
some really difficult decisions about
what we do. Um, but some of that may be

1578
02:48:45,600 --> 02:48:51,200
from a procurement standpoint. We may be
going to very different procurement

1579
02:48:49,680 --> 02:48:55,120
methods. We may be going to a
progressive design build. We may be

1580
02:48:53,680 --> 02:49:01,760
doing in other words, we're doing
something here that is very different

1581
02:48:58,880 --> 02:49:09,439
than what entities did 20 years ago or
even 10 years ago. What we're doing here

1582
02:49:04,880 --> 02:49:16,080
with an owner's advisor is absolutely
the right way to go in these current

1583
02:49:14,080 --> 02:49:22,000
times, current circumstances with with
with now having the ability as a public

1584
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:25,200
entity to do uh have different options
on the procurement side other than all

1585
02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:28,880
right, we're going to go out and and
hire a design engineering firm for a

1586
02:49:27,200 --> 02:49:32,000
couple million bucks. They're going to
design it. Then we're going to put it

1587
02:49:30,399 --> 02:49:38,640
out to bid. then we're going to hire a
construction project manager, etc. Those

1588
02:49:34,240 --> 02:49:44,000
all build up too, but we are able to at
this point bring in a firm that owes its

1589
02:49:41,840 --> 02:49:49,120
duty to us
and us alone.

1590
02:49:46,479 --> 02:49:55,279
It owes Jacobs will owe a duty to the
city, not to anybody else. And so that's

1591
02:49:53,359 --> 02:50:06,479
key.
There's a lot of money involved in phase

1592
02:49:57,920 --> 02:50:11,760
1A. Um, and um, uh, I it it's it's a lot
of money, but at the same time, it

1593
02:50:09,359 --> 02:50:16,319
stands us in goodstead as we're looking
at the options ahead of us. I think Dave

1594
02:50:14,240 --> 02:50:23,359
mentioned a workshop. I think there are
going to be multiple workshops and

1595
02:50:18,319 --> 02:50:30,000
multiple hours spent at this. Um,
uh, I think the the this is the right

1596
02:50:27,359 --> 02:50:34,880
way to do it. I'm very mindful that this
is a lot of money. The way I think of

1597
02:50:32,240 --> 02:50:39,439
this is it's a long, you know, 3.9
million on a phase 1A of a project that

1598
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:44,880
I suspect is going to cost somewhere
well north of $200 million

1599
02:50:42,640 --> 02:50:50,560
to receive the kind of upfront services
that we're going to get

1600
02:50:47,359 --> 02:50:54,000
uh now is going to be worth it. And
people can make a different value

1601
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:58,240
judgment on that, but I think the
approach that staff is recommending that

1602
02:50:56,399 --> 02:51:03,920
we take and the approach that we're
doing is the right way to do this. So,

1603
02:51:01,359 --> 02:51:09,439
it's a lot of money, but I think it's
money. I don't like spending

1604
02:51:08,080 --> 02:51:13,439
I don't like spending any money, but
anyway, I I don't like spending a lot of

1605
02:51:11,520 --> 02:51:17,200
money, but this is money that's well
spent, particularly when you consider

1606
02:51:14,960 --> 02:51:22,319
how important uh this project is. The
last speaker talked about the importance

1607
02:51:19,520 --> 02:51:25,680
of of uh the importance of a water
reclamation plan. We have to do this

1608
02:51:24,080 --> 02:51:28,800
right. We have to do it right from an
environmental standpoint. We have to

1609
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:33,760
make sure that we comply with our
regulatory mandates and provide the best

1610
02:51:31,040 --> 02:51:37,600
services possible for folks. So, I'm in
support of the recommendation and happy

1611
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:42,080
to make a motion when the appropriate
time comes. Thank you,

1612
02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:47,520
» Council Member Santangelo.
>> Thank you. I won't be too long. Um, I

1613
02:51:44,960 --> 02:51:53,520
really appreciate your comments and your
work on the committee. Um,

1614
02:51:51,040 --> 02:51:58,240
this is a big, expensive, important
project and so far I'm pleased with how

1615
02:51:56,080 --> 02:52:02,880
we're moving. I think that the owner's
advisor model is the right one. I think

1616
02:52:00,640 --> 02:52:08,399
it helps us reduce risk and it will help
analyze all elements of the project. Um,

1617
02:52:06,319 --> 02:52:14,240
like I said, I really appreciate the
work of staff and of the ad hoc

1618
02:52:10,800 --> 02:52:19,920
committee. I know it takes a lot of work
to

1619
02:52:15,760 --> 02:52:24,160
um have evaluated all of these um
different

1620
02:52:21,439 --> 02:52:28,319
um bidters.
Um

1621
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:33,439
um and I agree with you, Tony. I think
there's a lot more work to come, but um

1622
02:52:30,800 --> 02:52:38,160
I think this this board is up for the
task. Um and I think that we've got um

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02:52:36,240 --> 02:52:42,479
strong staff behind us to lead us in in
the way. And I think that this is a good

1624
02:52:40,319 --> 02:52:48,080
I trust in the committee's choice to
choose Jacobs.

1625
02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:53,760
» Vice Mayor
>> uh ditto to uh what has been said thus

1626
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:58,960
far. Uh thank you so much to the
committee to both the mayor and to

1627
02:52:56,399 --> 02:53:03,840
council member Trembley. I know there's
a lot of work that went on not only at

1628
02:53:01,680 --> 02:53:07,040
the committee but behind the scenes. I
think David you probably did some work

1629
02:53:05,600 --> 02:53:12,640
during the holidays. I remember that was
like your fun holiday reading. So to to

1630
02:53:10,240 --> 02:53:19,600
both of you and staff truly appreciate
all of that work. Uh there is a saying

1631
02:53:16,319 --> 02:53:25,040
in Spanish which is persona prepar
like a prepared person counts for two

1632
02:53:22,399 --> 02:53:31,760
and so I do think it is especially
important to get this right to have

1633
02:53:27,840 --> 02:53:36,479
planning in advance as that is critical.
Um,

1634
02:53:33,920 --> 02:53:41,279
we have said over and over how this is
going to probably be the most expensive

1635
02:53:38,640 --> 02:53:45,279
capital improvement project. And I will
add that it's probably going to be one

1636
02:53:43,120 --> 02:53:50,720
of the most important uh projects
because it is so critical that we are

1637
02:53:47,920 --> 02:53:57,520
all able to flush our toilets and and
have access to uh this water as well.

1638
02:53:54,800 --> 02:54:03,120
And so with that, um I know the mayor
and I, we've also done a lot of work in

1639
02:54:01,120 --> 02:54:09,520
going to Sacramento and going to
Washington DC and making sure that our

1640
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:15,520
uh legislators are aware as to where we
are in this process and trying to get uh

1641
02:54:12,080 --> 02:54:20,399
funding um through that process as well.
And so there's a lot of moving parts, a

1642
02:54:17,680 --> 02:54:26,720
lot of work, but I think going through
uh an owner's advisor is the right

1643
02:54:23,200 --> 02:54:31,680
pathway. And I think uh we will get
there and I'm glad that we're taking

1644
02:54:29,040 --> 02:54:37,200
action now. I know it is expensive, but
at the same time it is important to

1645
02:54:33,680 --> 02:54:43,359
invest in our community in this way.
>> Thank you, Mr. Kild.

1646
02:54:39,840 --> 02:54:49,040
Yeah, I want to ditto uh what's been
said and I especially want to thank my

1647
02:54:45,840 --> 02:54:54,640
colleagues up here for all the hard
work, all of us, but particularly

1648
02:54:52,640 --> 02:55:02,240
Mayor Tennenness and and Council Member
Trembley. Um, I've been up here a while

1649
02:54:58,399 --> 02:55:07,279
like I said and uh I was here when we
were somewhat less successful with one

1650
02:55:04,720 --> 02:55:14,399
of our upgrades here
and as was said very eloquently that uh

1651
02:55:10,640 --> 02:55:19,840
this is a new time and a new era and the
owner's advisor is is the way to go

1652
02:55:16,800 --> 02:55:24,880
about this. Uh, it's also said that we
do not know exactly how much this is

1653
02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:28,800
going to cost, but we do know that it's
probably going to be in the hundreds of

1654
02:55:26,399 --> 02:55:33,200
millions of dollars. Um, I'm hoping
it'll be in the lesser hundreds of

1655
02:55:31,439 --> 02:55:41,040
millions of dollars, but until we go out
to bid, we don't know. So, we're talking

1656
02:55:36,960 --> 02:55:47,520
about $3.9 million here to try to get as
accurate information in a very, very

1657
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:51,920
complex project.
When you do a project of this magnitude,

1658
02:55:50,160 --> 02:55:58,640
you're going to have some highs and lows
here. And you want to make sure as best

1659
02:55:54,720 --> 02:56:03,200
you can that what you approve works. I'm
one of these kind of different people. I

1660
02:56:01,359 --> 02:56:08,319
like to go up to landfills and I like to
go to sand plants and I'm really

1661
02:56:05,200 --> 02:56:11,840
enamored on on how they work. And I
think it's important for all of us to

1662
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:17,760
remember too that this has been
operational since about 1957,

1663
02:56:15,200 --> 02:56:24,800
a long time ago. And if we can get
anywhere close to that on this new

1664
02:56:19,600 --> 02:56:30,240
upgrade, this um build um you know
situation, the owner's advisory, I think

1665
02:56:27,040 --> 02:56:34,960
will be money well spent. I look as it
as it is kind of too wordy here, a

1666
02:56:32,479 --> 02:56:39,200
three-legged stool here. You've got
Jacobs, you've got Feldman for the

1667
02:56:36,960 --> 02:56:44,640
financing, and you've got Rafelis to be
able to uh help, you know, our rateayers

1668
02:56:42,479 --> 02:56:51,120
on all that. So the three-legged stool
is really really important in this. So

1669
02:56:47,840 --> 02:56:56,319
um I can support this. This is the first
leg of a race that's going to be many

1670
02:56:53,600 --> 02:57:00,080
many it's going to be a long race here.
But uh we want to do it right and I

1671
02:56:58,560 --> 02:57:06,160
think this is a real step in the
direction. So I will support this.

1672
02:57:03,040 --> 02:57:12,240
Thank you. Uh I just want to commend
staff. Um, Council Member Trembley and I

1673
02:57:09,040 --> 02:57:15,760
were treated at Christmas time with
Christmas wrapped gifts and I thought,

1674
02:57:14,080 --> 02:57:21,600
"Oh, great. Staff's getting us
presents." And then when I opened it up

1675
02:57:18,479 --> 02:57:27,200
and saw five proposals about how high,
Mr. Trembley, yeah, five proposals and

1676
02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:31,120
one of the city manager staffers said,
"You know, you have maybe 10 days to

1677
02:57:29,200 --> 02:57:35,600
read this." And then he called back
later and said, "Hey, can we do it two

1678
02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:39,920
days early?" So my Christmas was spent
reading all these proposals. Very

1679
02:57:37,359 --> 02:57:46,560
informative. Uh staff did tremendous
work in putting together the RFP. Um we

1680
02:57:44,000 --> 02:57:53,279
met the ad hoc committee with the gov
team and winnowed it down from five

1681
02:57:49,840 --> 02:57:59,840
proposals to three and we did interviews
with those three proposers proposers and

1682
02:57:56,960 --> 02:58:04,560
uh I feel very confident that the gov
team and Mr. Trembley and I made the

1683
02:58:01,760 --> 02:58:10,319
correct decision in selecting Jacobs.
Um, as

1684
02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:17,279
Mr. Mr. Kild said, we do have a
three-legged stool with our rate study,

1685
02:58:14,000 --> 02:58:23,120
with Jacobs, and with our fieldman to
help us with the financing on this. As

1686
02:58:19,840 --> 02:58:27,520
Vice Mayor Bravo, Martinez Bravo said,
we've planted the seed in Sacramento.

1687
02:58:25,760 --> 02:58:33,439
We've planted the seed with our federal
legislators in Washington DC and also

1688
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:37,359
with a couple of federal agencies in
Washington DC on the importance of this,

1689
02:58:35,600 --> 02:58:42,880
not just from the standpoint of being
able to have an effective and efficient

1690
02:58:40,000 --> 02:58:48,960
water reclamation plant, but focusing on
the environment and our potential reuse

1691
02:58:46,319 --> 02:58:55,359
of this water to give us a longer term,
more sustainable water source for the

1692
02:58:51,520 --> 02:59:00,240
residents of Camaro. Um, the thing to
keep in mind, this is phase 1A and it's

1693
02:58:58,000 --> 02:59:04,560
going to be 20 months. Uh, Mr. Clatzel
said we'll have a workshop. I'm sure we

1694
02:59:02,000 --> 02:59:10,880
will have multiple and typically when we
do workshops, they are publicly noticed

1695
02:59:07,840 --> 02:59:15,920
and the public will be invited to these
and you'll be able to see what we see

1696
02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:19,840
when we see it. Um, and as more and more
information comes out, then I'm sure we

1697
02:59:18,160 --> 02:59:26,080
will share that information on the
public portals for the city. We really

1698
02:59:22,399 --> 02:59:31,840
won't know the cost until Jacobs comes
back at the end of this initial phase 1A

1699
02:59:29,760 --> 02:59:36,399
on what they're recommended and what
this board is comfortable with. I see

1700
02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:39,600
this as a long-term phased approach. I
don't think we're I personally don't

1701
02:59:38,080 --> 02:59:45,279
think we're going to take one big bite
out of this and be done. Um I see it as

1702
02:59:42,479 --> 02:59:50,000
a phased approach. Um and that's what
I'm hoping to see going forward. But

1703
02:59:47,840 --> 02:59:53,840
stay tuned and obviously I will support
this and Mr. Trembly, I believe you had

1704
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:58,080
something to say.
>> No, I'll happy to make the uh recommend

1705
02:59:57,279 --> 03:00:01,520
a motion.
>> I'm happy to second it.

1706
02:59:59,680 --> 03:00:05,279
» We have a motion in a second. Madame
clerk, roll call, please.

1707
03:00:03,520 --> 03:00:07,359
» Council member Santangelo,
>> yes.

1708
03:00:05,680 --> 03:00:09,359
» Vice Mayor Martinez Bravo,
>> yes.

1709
03:00:07,840 --> 03:00:11,120
» Council member Kildy,
>> yes.

1710
03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:12,640
» Council member Trembley,
>> yes.

1711
03:00:11,520 --> 03:00:15,840
» Mayor Tennyson,
>> yes.

1712
03:00:13,200 --> 03:00:20,720
» That passes unanimously.
And now I will ask our esteemable city

1713
03:00:18,800 --> 03:00:24,399
attorney if there's any report on our
closed session.

1714
03:00:22,240 --> 03:00:27,439
» Uh no, there was one item and there was
no reportable action.

1715
03:00:26,080 --> 03:00:31,640
» Thank you very much. Have a good
evening. We are adjourned.