1 00:00:00,660 --> 00:00:09,340 Number five, and I'll now call the order of this regular meeting of the City of Campbell City Council on Tuesday, September 16th, 2025. 2 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:20,920 Debris, clerk, could we have the roll call for this? Councilmember Bibi? Councilmember Heinz? Councilmember Scusola? Vice mayor Fertado? Mayor Lopez? 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,060 Yes. 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,420 Here. 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:22,820 Thanks so much. 6 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:25,140 I'll now have the pleasure to lead it. 7 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:35,030 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and America and to the Republic for which 8 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:39,510 it stands for one nation, undergarga, and the visible liberty and the justice. 9 00:00:43,580 --> 00:00:44,040 Thank you. 10 00:00:44,100 --> 00:00:48,360 And today we have no special presentations and proclamations and no communications or 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,860 petitions. 12 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:53,660 For oral requests, do we have any members of the public that like to speak on item not on 13 00:00:53,660 --> 00:00:54,240 tonight's agenda? 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,720 And do we have anyone online? 15 00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:06,300 most of the comment and go to Mayor's and Outfits. 16 00:01:07,140 --> 00:01:10,880 First, as part of the Campbell Multi-Model Transportation Plan, 17 00:01:11,420 --> 00:01:13,560 the state will be hosting a community walk and roll audit 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,320 this Friday, September 19th, 19 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,380 and a community bike audit on Friday, October 3rd. 20 00:01:18,820 --> 00:01:21,100 These events are intended to allow the public to walk 21 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:23,900 by Campbell Street's bikeways and sidewalks 22 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:24,820 to provide their feedback. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,760 To register for these events and learn more about the plan, 24 00:01:28,060 --> 00:01:29,660 please visit camelcaid.gov. 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Excuse me, CampbellC8.gov slash Multimodal. 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,540 Next, Campbell on sale. 27 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:38,480 Join the fund for the City of Campbell's annual Citywide 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Grub Sale on Saturday, October 4th, from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. 29 00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:45,860 The annual Grub Sale encourages the sale of reusable items 30 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:47,500 rather than discarding them into the land. 31 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:50,400 This event promotes public awareness of solid waste 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,460 and the importance of recycling. 33 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,800 Please visit the sales website at CampbellC8.gov to find out more. 34 00:01:55,740 --> 00:01:58,840 Next, sign up now for the 18th annual October Fest 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,960 fund run on Saturday, October 18th. Whether you walk your run, come join the fund. Register early 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,900 and secure your spot. For additional information, please visit CampbellCa.gov-slash.com with us. 37 00:02:09,740 --> 00:02:14,760 Next, the city of Campbell, cordially invites you to ribbon-cutting ceremony to celebrate the newly 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:21,760 re-bottled Campbell Library on Friday, October 17th at 10am at 77 Harrison Avenue. Join us for a 39 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,620 morning community spirit celebration as we mark this exciting milestone. Please note that this event 40 00:02:26,620 --> 00:02:31,080 is a ribbon-cutting ceremony only, public access to the building will occur during the 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,380 grand opening, which will be hosted by the Santa Clara County Library District on Saturday, 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,560 November 22, 2025. Additional details of the grand opening will be shared at the later day. 43 00:02:41,180 --> 00:02:45,500 Finally, in preparation for the relocation to the newly renovated Campbell Library, 44 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:52,380 Campbell Express Library located at the Community Center will officially close on Sunday, 45 00:02:52,380 --> 00:03:00,360 October 26th. We appreciate the can we support during this transition and look forward to welcoming you to the new PMO library doing the grand opening celebration. 46 00:03:04,860 --> 00:03:09,740 Next we have consent calendar items considered to be routine and considered under one motion. 47 00:03:10,340 --> 00:03:15,480 Are there any council members, staff or members of the public felt like to pull an item from the consent calendar? 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,320 And if not, could I have a motion in a second? 49 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:24,620 I'll have a motion to approve the items one, two, and three. 50 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Okay. We have motion in second. Could we call the roll? 51 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:38,040 Council Member Baidi, Council Member Heine, Council Member Sizzila, Vice Mayor Furtado, Mayor Lopez. 52 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,700 It's not in here, but do we need a lot of public comment? 53 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,160 No, okay. Thank you. 54 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,900 Next is item four, public hearings and introduction of ordinances. 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,540 First, we'll be, I don't know for public hearing, consider adoption of an interim ordinance 56 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:07,460 extending ordinance number 2, 3, 3, 4 to continue urging measures, implementing SB 1123 and 57 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:08,140 AB 130. 58 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,020 And we'll hear from, from, from Community Development Director Robby Spoon. 59 00:04:14,140 --> 00:04:14,900 Good evening. 60 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,100 Nero Lopez, council members, the act for you today is simply to extend the interim ordinance 61 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:26,880 that you previously adopted, intended to put standards in place to enact recent state laws regarding starter homes. 62 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,640 This is $2 billion, $1.3 billion, and SB 684. 63 00:04:32,340 --> 00:04:39,960 Happened to poor, based on this legislative cycle, where any new laws will cause us to change these orientations in place again. 64 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:41,020 That's always good to know. 65 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,840 So, these should be in place for sometimes staff is currently working on a permanent ordinance. 66 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,420 It's not the best ordinance. 67 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,320 This intend to address a number of new state laws 68 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,460 and fixes to our ordinance. 69 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,140 Likely will come to you in the next three to four months. 70 00:04:54,780 --> 00:04:57,300 At this time, this currently just simply extends 71 00:04:57,300 --> 00:04:57,860 the inner mortgage. 72 00:05:01,650 --> 00:05:07,230 Thanks much. Do we have questions from council? Do we have public comment? 73 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,100 Okay. Any comments from council? And if not, we'll get out of motion. I'll 74 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:37,440 propose a motion to accept the public hearing. Consider the adoption of an interim ordinance extending ordinance number 2-3-3-4 to continue urgency measures implementing Senate Bill 1123-2024 and assembly bill 130-2025. 75 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,680 I forgot regarding a ministerial approval of starter home projects. 76 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,960 Oh second. 77 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,520 Thank you. 78 00:05:44,580 --> 00:05:45,060 Could we have the role? 79 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:47,620 Council Member Baibi. 80 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Aye. 81 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:49,120 Council Member Hines. 82 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:49,400 Aye. 83 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Council Member Sizzola. 84 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:50,940 Aye. 85 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,020 Vice Mayor Fertado. 86 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:52,420 Aye. 87 00:05:52,660 --> 00:05:53,140 Mayor Lopez. 88 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:53,580 Aye. 89 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:55,160 Thanks so much. 90 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 And City Attorney, do you need to read the title? 91 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Yes, you need. 92 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,880 You would need to move the way for the meeting to decide. 93 00:06:05,460 --> 00:06:05,680 Okay. 94 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,260 Okay. Deputy City Clerk, could you read the title? 95 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,840 We need to move to the motion. 96 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:13,300 We need to move to the motion. 97 00:06:13,380 --> 00:06:14,080 Also move. 98 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:14,760 Thank you. 99 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,300 Thank you. 100 00:06:15,340 --> 00:06:15,780 I'll second. 101 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,800 Can we have the roll? 102 00:06:18,860 --> 00:06:19,980 Council member Baibi. 103 00:06:20,180 --> 00:06:20,320 Aye. 104 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,600 Council member Heinz. 105 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:21,780 Aye. 106 00:06:22,020 --> 00:06:23,020 Council member Scazola. 107 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Aye. 108 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,420 Vice Mayor Fertado. 109 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Aye. 110 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:25,580 Mayor Lopez. 111 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:26,020 Aye. 112 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:29,210 Thank you. 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,980 But do we need to actually read the title or... 114 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:38,080 But Kristen, now you need to read the title. 115 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,220 That's what I was referring to when I said the other time. 116 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:45,500 Public hearing to consider adoption at the minute. 117 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:46,100 I'm sorry. 118 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:51,890 We read it for you. 119 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:54,710 If I on behalf of Steve Clark, being an interim ordinance 120 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:56,190 of the state council or the city council, 121 00:06:56,330 --> 00:06:58,830 extending ordinance number two, three, three, four 122 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:02,950 to continue agency measures implemented Senate bill 1123 123 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:07,350 from 2024, and assembly bill 130 from 2025, 124 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:10,710 regarding ministerial approval of starter home projects. 125 00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:15,730 Thank you so much, and we've already made the motion to wait for the reading. 126 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:16,170 Thank you. 127 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:21,750 So that brings us item five, which is approval of the amendment to fiscal year 2026. 128 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:26,050 Schedule fees and charges, and we will hear from Finance Director Wolff on this. 129 00:08:05,310 --> 00:08:05,570 All right. 130 00:08:06,490 --> 00:08:08,370 How do you think council? 131 00:08:09,630 --> 00:08:14,010 I will keep this a brief. 132 00:08:14,010 --> 00:08:29,030 the council approved all of the pays, all of our, all of the, these April, that for 133 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:41,250 almost all of these in this year, they did include a seat, a seat P.I. adjustment. 134 00:08:41,250 --> 00:08:48,690 and there were a few of housing committees. 135 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:57,650 And that's the idea of, forgot to include them in the adjustments. 136 00:09:01,070 --> 00:09:08,130 We were opposing a tonight. 137 00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:22,450 And that, we also do include laying a CPI adjustment upon those housing committees 138 00:09:22,450 --> 00:09:26,870 and has done our error, 139 00:09:28,950 --> 00:09:44,150 if the proof, because they are a development of these, 140 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:53,590 they want to go into, they want to go into that for a few months. 141 00:09:54,950 --> 00:09:59,630 and they are more than a go into effort. 142 00:10:00,460 --> 00:10:14,080 I'm in fact in, in, in, in, in, in. In fact, on the. On the, uh, uh, uh, it's, uh, 143 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:27,720 small, but then we have a CPI adjustment that is considered and assisted to the adjustment 144 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,960 that occurred for all of them to be used in a draft. 145 00:10:36,060 --> 00:10:36,860 So with that. 146 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:41,700 Thanks so much. 147 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,300 First, do we have any questions from Council? 148 00:10:47,060 --> 00:10:53,920 I'm sorry, one real minor question on the, on the fee list, is that per development or per unit? 149 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,440 I would direct it, but I can feel 150 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:16,620 it. 151 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:17,280 Okay, one more time. 152 00:11:17,420 --> 00:11:18,340 Council member, I'm sorry. 153 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:24,440 Patrick, the question was the fees, but yeah, is the fee is that a per unit or a per development fee? 154 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:34,660 It is, I'm going to have to, I, I oftentimes see that, these fees and it'd be helpful to know 155 00:11:34,660 --> 00:11:43,020 So if it's just a per unit or total project, so maybe just add that to the diagram on the 156 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:43,900 future ones. 157 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:47,620 I've seen this a couple of times, so if you could just thank you. 158 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,420 I'm sorry, I'm always the answer right here. 159 00:11:53,620 --> 00:11:54,600 Any other questions? 160 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:55,660 Thank you. 161 00:11:58,350 --> 00:12:04,570 If not, let's go to the, let's open the public hearing and then see if there's any other public 162 00:12:04,570 --> 00:12:05,570 wishing to speak. 163 00:12:09,740 --> 00:12:09,780 Okay. 164 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:14,500 What close the public hearing? Is there any discussion from Council? If not, we can have a motion. 165 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,520 No 166 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,340 discussion, okay. I'll make a motion that we adopt a resolution 167 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:26,520 amending housing development project permits, fee rates, 168 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,580 reminder projects to be incorporated into the city's existing fiscal year, 169 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,320 2026 schedule fees and charges effective November 15th, 2025. 170 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:39,500 I'll second. Thank you to the other roll, please. 171 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:41,380 Thank you. 172 00:12:41,380 --> 00:12:42,200 Council Member Baibi. 173 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Aye. 174 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:43,740 Council Member Hines. 175 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Aye. 176 00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:45,280 Council Member Scizzola. 177 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:45,580 Aye. 178 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:46,760 Vice Mayor Frittado. 179 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,120 Aye. 180 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:47,840 Mayor Lopez. 181 00:12:48,380 --> 00:12:48,460 Aye. 182 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:49,880 Thank you. 183 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,920 And first off, does the deputy state clerk need to read the title for this window? 184 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:57,440 Not for the. 185 00:12:57,900 --> 00:12:58,340 Okay. 186 00:12:58,680 --> 00:12:59,440 Thank you so much. 187 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,320 Great. 188 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,640 So I'm going to move this on to new business, which is item six. 189 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:14,240 and this is approval of the fiscal year 25-26 city of Campbell investment policy update and will be introduced to our speaker by finance director Wolfland. 190 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:14,380 And 191 00:13:32,270 --> 00:13:36,150 I'm here tonight, 192 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:50,840 two on a topic, a day of the half a year, two or five, 193 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:56,030 asment, 194 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:56,930 a policy. 195 00:13:56,930 --> 00:14:08,810 We, um it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a thing of a perv, a, perv, a CGC, and also our own 196 00:14:08,810 --> 00:14:25,450 coast that we update and and and go over each year to a to a to a to confirm that we do it that we 197 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:37,270 We do adhere to the law, and also affect on the fact that we've done the best of practice. 198 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:52,410 And also to ensure that we are targeting our goals each year. 199 00:14:52,410 --> 00:14:59,810 year, um, what a young, a, a, a, a young, we're a little, we're a little, we're a little 200 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:09,040 We did a roll call. Adios, a patient, a poor, and poor, those changes, a roll, a down, ours, 201 00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:20,680 some, a committee, on the state teams. There, there, there were a few questions, effective, 202 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:35,180 address and I also on the detail of the questions into the gender work report. 203 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:48,300 There, if the proposal changes for the expert here, they only include a rule, they only 204 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:58,780 include a long-term small change and it's um it's it's it's it's it's also it's 205 00:15:58,780 --> 00:16:07,440 also an IT field and we want to get a package um our 206 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,300 team and also our ex- ex- ex- ex- ex- ex- 207 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:17,980 and Star primeira, Pakistani and Eastern electronics. 208 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:27,780 We are rumor, we are also over you of our, 209 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,160 of our proo, of our close best grip, 210 00:16:32,980 --> 00:16:34,800 opinion objectives for the, 211 00:16:37,290 --> 00:16:38,530 and also, the, and, 212 00:16:38,850 --> 00:16:41,310 of the economy, 213 00:16:45,610 --> 00:16:47,690 our, our, our, our, 214 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:48,130 For 215 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:51,240 sure, our 216 00:16:55,910 --> 00:17:02,650 June was about just about 30 217 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,700 or 30, and almost so, 218 00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:37,820 hey, we do see them. 219 00:17:44,290 --> 00:17:58,300 And it's in between the 8th cap and also a channel. 220 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:07,080 we're able to work with them. 221 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,860 As I remember, we're now for Alba, 222 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,680 Alba, and the aether, 223 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:16,800 and they've been helpful in, 224 00:18:17,980 --> 00:18:18,420 in, in, 225 00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:19,880 in us, usburing, 226 00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:23,260 and we're able to, 227 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:40,200 we're able to, 228 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,080 period of time, 229 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:44,740 and they're, 230 00:18:44,740 --> 00:18:48,740 they've been helpful to, 231 00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:06,080 in fact, both of them 232 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:16,360 are expected to increase over a time to 233 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:19,180 about all of you on to, 234 00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:35,990 and also at the same time, a gentleman, they've continued to 235 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:38,470 over the 236 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:55,490 target chosen. So I understand the piece for me is to hear. I've also over 237 00:19:55,490 --> 00:19:59,850 room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room. 238 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:15,060 Pat January, Erin, from the out, the um,uh, kilowatt bill a update of our, part of, 239 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:24,080 or Portfolio Underer and he'll also give a few like update on the 240 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:32,940 economy and the overall impacts to account 241 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:40,180 Aaron when I'm sharing this with you 242 00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:52,710 or all right thank you well so yes my name is Aaron I work with Chandler Asset Management and we work 243 00:20:53,670 --> 00:21:02,330 managing the portfolio for the city. I am the portfolio manager. So just a quick portfolio update where our main objectives really remain the same. 244 00:21:02,490 --> 00:21:07,930 We have our safety. We aim to provide liquidity and lastly we try to earn a competitive return. 245 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:13,170 The portfolio is fully compliant with the investment policy as well as California government code. 246 00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:20,070 We follow a one to five year strategy. We aim to lock in attractive rates for up to about five years in total. 247 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:25,570 So, the current portfolio as on the presentation that we'll had, we have a purchase yield of 248 00:21:25,570 --> 00:21:31,430 over 4%, it's currently at 4.10%, then that is generating meaningful income to the city. 249 00:21:32,210 --> 00:21:37,090 The way we measure ourselves is against a benchmark as well, and since inception we had outperformed 250 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:41,430 the benchmark by about 28 basis points, so that's additional money coming back to the city 251 00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:42,090 that we're proud of. 252 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:47,370 For a brief economic update, I'm just going to talk about inflation, the later market, 253 00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:52,370 the consumer and then the Federal Reserve. For inflation, it's been really sticky. It's kind of 254 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:57,130 been a little bit more elevated than where the Fed wants it at a 2% level. It's currently fluctuated 255 00:21:57,130 --> 00:22:03,070 between 2.6 and 2.9%. A lot of that has to deal with the two main reasons. One is tariffs, 256 00:22:03,210 --> 00:22:07,470 which I'm sure we've all heard about in the news. The other is our shelter costs, which is our 257 00:22:07,930 --> 00:22:14,190 home prices, our rents. Those have remained elevated, which has created a drag on bringing down 258 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:19,070 inflation, along with tariffs and the uncertainty of what's going to happen with prices, inflation 259 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:22,290 is just kind of remained above that 2% target that the Fed wants. 260 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:28,130 In other news, the labor market that has been in the headlines recently, the labor market 261 00:22:28,130 --> 00:22:33,030 has started to slow. In the month of August, the economy only added 22,000 jobs, which is 262 00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:39,030 very low. And over the past three months, the average has been 29,000. I'm sure some people 263 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:45,350 didn't see the BLS revisions for the entire year. It was around 900,000 total jobs that were 264 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:49,810 revised downwards. So we're starting to see a little bit more strain on the labor market, 265 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:54,030 which is going to have an effect on the consumer. When we think about the consumer, it's been very 266 00:22:54,030 --> 00:22:58,090 resilient because it's been propped up by a strong labor market. Now that we're starting to see a 267 00:22:58,090 --> 00:23:02,050 little bit of deterioration, we can't expect the consumer to start to pull back a little bit more, 268 00:23:02,330 --> 00:23:05,530 and they're going to probably continue to up their savings. This is savings rate. It's been 269 00:23:05,530 --> 00:23:10,930 increasing. The highlight of the week that we're going to see on our side is the Federal Reserve, 270 00:23:11,050 --> 00:23:16,510 they meet tomorrow. We are expecting them to cut interest rates by 25 basis points. There is 271 00:23:16,510 --> 00:23:23,030 going to be a lot of eyes on how many dissents they're going to be because some people on the board 272 00:23:23,030 --> 00:23:28,310 are going to call for 50 basis points. However, we do think that it's going to be 25 at this meeting 273 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:33,250 and there's two more meetings after the one tomorrow and we expect another 25 basis point 274 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:39,570 interest rate cut towards the end of the year, so a total of 50 basis points of interest rate cuts by the end of 2025. 275 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:44,570 And that will give us around to a target of around 4% of the Fed funds rate. 276 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:49,350 So that's why another reason why we're locking in some of these longer term rates now before interest rates start to come down. 277 00:23:50,270 --> 00:23:51,470 Then I'll turn it back over to Will. 278 00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:52,390 with 279 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:54,680 Chandler, and feel that they're a very solid custodian to be able to manage too. 280 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,180 So I think it saw all of excellent and the finance committee we had approved it as well. 281 00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:18,440 We did, and I don't really have comments out about the substance, which I think makes sense, mostly minor updates here, but I also want to express my appreciation, how great it's been working with Chandler on this since they came on. So with that, do we have motion, second? 282 00:25:21,630 --> 00:25:33,110 I move the city council adopted resolution, approving the annual update to the city's investment policy for fiscal year 2526. Yeah, I'll second just to change it up. Yeah. Go ahead. 283 00:25:44,010 --> 00:25:48,050 Thank you for the presentation for being on mine, Erin. 284 00:25:48,570 --> 00:25:48,930 Yeah, of course. 285 00:25:49,090 --> 00:25:49,250 Thank you. 286 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:53,630 And that brings us to item seven, which is the Parks and Recreation Master Plan. 287 00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:58,210 And we will hear from Recreation Community Services Director Nintosh Prasil. 288 00:25:58,210 --> 00:26:05,070 Good evening, Honorable Mayor, members of Council, I'm very excited tonight to have 289 00:26:05,070 --> 00:26:08,450 before you the final draft of Parks and Recreation Master Plan. 290 00:26:09,010 --> 00:26:15,730 This was a fiscal 25 work plan item that we are wrapping up now and we've had a long 291 00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:21,570 lengthy engagement process and we had the draft plan up for several weeks for the public and 292 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:22,530 for yourselves to comment. 293 00:26:23,550 --> 00:26:26,970 So tonight before you is a final draft, however, there's something that comes out of the 294 00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:29,990 discussion this evening that needs to be changed, that it can still be modified. 295 00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:35,510 And online tonight I have Lauren Ivy Thomas from MIG who will be doing the presentation 296 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:36,230 for you. 297 00:26:36,410 --> 00:26:40,610 So she is here and I'm going to pass it off to her to kind of take you through the process 298 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:44,730 of our master plan and ending with how we got to our final document. 299 00:26:45,630 --> 00:26:46,470 Thank you, Dewey Lauren. 300 00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:50,080 Excellent. 301 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,680 Thank you. 302 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,580 Can you all hear me well? 303 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,040 I'm calling in from Edith Morley Park. 304 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,540 All right. 305 00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:02,340 Let's make sure we can share our screen. 306 00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:30,410 All right. Can you see this PowerPoint page, okay? 307 00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:33,200 Yes, we can. 308 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:35,380 Excellent. All right. 309 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,360 Thank you, Natasha, for that excellent introduction. 310 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,280 It's been amazing working with you and your team. 311 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:46,440 And retired Todd on the City of Campbell's first Parks and Recreation Master Plan. 312 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,680 I'm Lauren Ivy-Thomas and the project manager for this from MIG. 313 00:27:54,340 --> 00:28:00,980 So our purposes here this evening is to talk about this master plan, overall what that 314 00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:06,880 purpose was, highlight everything that's in the master plan document itself, and then 315 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:13,000 importantly note the edits that were made that resulted in the final draft that Natasha 316 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,700 has mentioned. 317 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:21,140 So the purpose of this master plan is to establish the city's first ever long-range plan for Campbell's Parks and Recreation System. 318 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,040 It identified both system-wide and site-specific recommendations. 319 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,300 It looked at the conditions of the parks, the physical conditions, as well as access to them. 320 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:41,340 It outlined goals, policies for the community that are grounded in the Campbell's community values for parks and recreation. 321 00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:50,080 and they highlight actions to address priority initiatives, and it's going to serve as a guide for future decision-making investment 322 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240 park and rec projects and programs in the future. 323 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,180 At a glance, the plan has six chapters and five accompanying appendices which will go through. 324 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:12,980 The planning process began in spring 2024, and it has taken us to fall 2025. 325 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,040 It's been a four-step process with our kickoff data collection and data analysis. 326 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:23,900 This is where we started to look at the physical system itself reviewing existing plans 327 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,240 and policy efforts related to parks and recreation. 328 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,480 Then we did an extensive needs and engagement process assessment. 329 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,920 This included that technical analysis of your system, community outreach, 330 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,860 and identifying what those key needs are in order for us to provide the recommendations 331 00:29:39,860 --> 00:29:41,520 for the parks and recreation system. 332 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,620 And phase three, we developed those recommendations. 333 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:48,760 They're specific to both sites, as well as system-wide recommendations. 334 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,120 And phase four is where we are now planned development and adoption. 335 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:59,660 And throughout this, I will say that the community engagement has played a role in every step. 336 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:29,880 We've had a variety of city interviews. We've had over 1000 individuals respond to our community-wide online questionnaire, which was a questionnaire that anyone could opt into. A company that was a statistically valid survey, which took a statistically valid sampling of your community with 400 responses. We worked with the city's youth focus group. The Natasha and her staff were able to go to a variety of pop-up events with 337 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:38,410 materials to talk about the plan and we held two in-person community workshops all right so the plan 338 00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:44,450 chapters chapter one is an introduction to the to the plan itself it talks about the planning 339 00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:50,630 process it identifies related and influential planning efforts that we want this plan to build on 340 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:55,390 and support in the future and it recognizes the city's existing vision and direction for parks 341 00:30:55,390 --> 00:31:00,110 recreation planning as well as highlighting values and benefits of parks in general for all communities 342 00:31:01,670 --> 00:31:06,770 Chapter two is our thorough review of the existing system itself. 343 00:31:07,070 --> 00:31:12,530 It describes Campbell in the context of its larger recreation system within the county 344 00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:13,590 and adjacent cities. 345 00:31:13,890 --> 00:31:19,270 It looks at the part classification system that identifies a part classification system 346 00:31:19,270 --> 00:31:24,110 so that we can understand the appropriate level of development for park sites in the future. 347 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:28,390 It identifies key amenities, facilities, programs, and services. 348 00:31:29,170 --> 00:31:35,490 Looking at this, we looked at 15 of your park sites, city has 15, which is 77 total park 349 00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:39,810 acres and a total of 228 physical assets that we looked at. 350 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:47,410 In the existing system chapter, we also look at not only the physical system itself, but 351 00:31:47,410 --> 00:31:51,730 also the programs and operations that the city runs to support parks and recreation. 352 00:31:52,670 --> 00:31:59,650 So looking at existing recreation program provided, who they're provided for, as well as understanding 353 00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:04,490 the maintenance and operations services in your parks and recreation service area. 354 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,780 In chapter three, this is where we really delve into the needs of what we've identified. 355 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:17,180 We talk about the community's profile, the priorities that we've understood through community 356 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:21,160 engagement, as well as the needs that we've identified through our technical analysis. 357 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,140 In this chapter, we talk about the city's demographics. We identified trends nationwide and 358 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:31,720 regional for parking recreation planning. We mapped physical access to parks and 359 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,480 Campbell, which you can see here in this image on the right, which is our access analysis 360 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:42,460 with a 10-minute walk to the city's existing parks. And importantly for this project we included 361 00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:49,500 a health equity mapping analysis so that we could understand where existing conditions and disparities 362 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:54,800 were, where there might be a prevalence of health conditions so that we can further understand 363 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,300 and prioritizing those areas for recreation support. 364 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:00,880 We identify needs for recreation facilities, 365 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760 specifically things like playgrounds, sport courts, 366 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,240 needs for programming, which are the programming 367 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:08,940 that Natasha's department offers. 368 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:11,840 We look at needs for your maintenance and operations, 369 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,220 understanding the staffing that's needed, 370 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,980 the work that goes into these assets. 371 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,080 And then also we looked at specific site needs 372 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,600 for some of your major parks, 373 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:28,700 including the Campbell Community Center Complex, John D. Morgan Park, and I believe the Creek Trail. 374 00:33:30,830 --> 00:33:36,850 In chapter four, we provide system-wide recommendations, and these are in five main categories. 375 00:33:37,390 --> 00:33:44,170 These are system-wide recommendations for all parks and facilities, for resilience and sustainability, 376 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:50,030 for maintenance, deferred maintenance and operations, for the administration and management of the 377 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:54,450 Park System and Recreation Programs activities and events. 378 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,180 In chapter five, we delven to the site-specific recommendations for all 15 parks, as well 379 00:34:03,180 --> 00:34:07,540 as two park expansion and development projects that we've identified. 380 00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:13,780 Granted, the number of recommendations that this master plan provides, they're organized 381 00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:15,040 into these three categories. 382 00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:19,540 The majority of our recommendations are in the category of renovation and renewal. 383 00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:25,280 These are recommendations for the repair, updated replacement of existing facilities and amenities. 384 00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:29,880 After that, we have 39 facility additions or enhancements. 385 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,880 These are projects that would add a new amenity or facility to an existing park. 386 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,840 And then finally, we have two park expansion and development projects. 387 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:45,420 These projects include acquisition, development, and partnerships to provide parks and trails at five locations in the city. 388 00:34:45,420 --> 00:34:51,500 And that's in direct response to the access analysis that we performed for the park access. 389 00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:59,720 Chapter 6 is our action and implementation on concluding chapter where we identify approximately 51.5. 390 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:29,980 A million in capital funding needs to implement the 91 capital project recommendations that are included in this master plan. We understand that the cost of these far exceeds the funding available. And this, this chapter looks at how to provide that implementation. And just to break down, we want to clarify that planning level costs are planning specific. There's capital costs that represent a one-time 391 00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:35,040 cost for acquisition, building development, renovation or replacing part features is also 392 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,880 maintenance costs and that refers to the annual and recurring costs for maintenance of the system. 393 00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:48,500 So for this action implementation as I noted, we have identified far more projects than are 394 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:55,000 feasible to complete in the very near future. And so we've divided them into short-term, mid-term, 395 00:35:55,180 --> 00:36:00,260 and long-term projects. The short-term projects are those that we've prioritized based off of 396 00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:06,040 community engagement and our technical analysis for needs following that and those are those that 397 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,120 should be implemented within the first five years of the master plan adoption. Our midterm projects 398 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,880 are also a priority. Those should be within six to ten implemented within six to ten years of the 399 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:24,040 park and recreation master plan adoption and then the long term projects which we see implemented 400 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,060 more than 11 years after as funds become available. But it is important to note that as the 401 00:36:30,060 --> 00:36:38,560 city moves forward with these recommendations and their implementation, you know, funds arise and trends occur. 402 00:36:39,460 --> 00:36:46,800 So this master plan serves as a document of all recommendations and as funds become available, this city will be able to choose how to move forward with these. 403 00:36:50,210 --> 00:37:01,210 And so, to understand our prioritization tool of how we put these into the categories, we created a tool that step one was to align the recommendation with community values. 404 00:37:01,210 --> 00:37:10,730 and the community values were identified through our community engagement process which included the workshops, the online survey, the statistically valid survey, and the pop-up events. 405 00:37:11,570 --> 00:37:20,210 Step two was to align recommendations with the desired recreation of visitor experience that we saw that folks were wanting for the city of Campbell and how they wanted to experience parts. 406 00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:30,190 And then finally step three was the alignment of that recommendation with its fiscal feasibility and the impact that we will have on the whole system. 407 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:34,630 In this chapter, we also identify potential funding tools. 408 00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:43,490 I'll briefly go through the five appendices that are included as part of this Parks and Recreation Master Plan. 409 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:49,490 The first is the full inventory of the Parks and Recreation Physical Assets. 410 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:56,010 So this is a detail and this graphic probably looks crazy on the screen right now. 411 00:37:56,010 --> 00:38:01,910 But this lists out all of your park sites, all of the physical assets they have inside 412 00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:05,590 of them, their acreage, as well as the park type that they are. 413 00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:10,400 We also provide our park condition assessment. 414 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:17,200 So in 2024, I mean, and a wonderful colleague, Tucker McFall, 415 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,840 we actually went out into the field on a very hot summer in Campbell, 416 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,060 and we inventoryed the 220 assets looking at their physical condition 417 00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:29,120 and to understand how physical assets are performing in the city 418 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,100 and this condition assessment documents those conditions 419 00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:33,380 at every single park site. 420 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,700 We have the full health and equity assessment 421 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:38,900 that I mentioned here. 422 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,240 While we definitely include findings in chapter 3, 423 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,660 you can look at the full health equity assessment 424 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:46,400 including the appendix C. 425 00:38:47,540 --> 00:38:50,740 This talks about the prevalence of mental health challenges, 426 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,500 chronic disease challenges, physical and activity 427 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,780 and disability prevalence. 428 00:38:54,780 --> 00:39:00,520 and this helped us to understand what are the priority geographic areas that we might want to serve better. 429 00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:06,020 And then in Appendix D, we have our Capital Improvement Project list. 430 00:39:06,420 --> 00:39:09,680 So this is the full list of all 91 recommendations, 431 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:14,360 capital recommendations for this project with their total planning level cost, 432 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,140 as well as additional details about what that project entails, 433 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,180 and its location where that project is located. 434 00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,600 And then Appendix E is our action plan. 435 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,880 So this identifies those 91 recommendations, 436 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,520 but it organizes them based off of the timeframe 437 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,840 that are previously discussed with the short term, medium term, 438 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,440 and long term projects based on their priority. 439 00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:43,240 It's important to note that this master plan has been available 440 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,720 to the public for a decent amount of time. 441 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:56,720 And the next couple of slides I'm going to review what we've heard and as well as what changes have been made for this final draft for this final master plan. 442 00:39:57,980 --> 00:39:59,960 So the draft plan was available on. 443 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980 On for review, for three weeks, we had an online comment card that anyone could complete. It was a detailed comment card where folks were invited to provide a comment and to specifically say where in that document that comment is so that we can understand where exactly it was and then any reasoning or description on that comment. We received 47 individual comments through this online comment card process. After that, the draft plan, Natasha presented it to the Parks and Recreation Committee. 444 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:36,600 meeting on September 3rd of this month, where we receive some additional comments, and I'll go through those. 445 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:45,020 So regarding public comments, we have made changes to the master plan that now address making sure 446 00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:53,960 full graphic pages are graphically clean and dynamically clear on what it's showing. 447 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,740 We've also added national register of historic places to both Ainsley House, Campbell Museum 448 00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:01,860 and Heritage Theater, sorry, all three of those. 449 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,880 Updating a couple of iris that we found in Table 2.2, we have some very keen-eyed community 450 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,320 members. 451 00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:15,160 We reverted maintenance operational bullets, referring to turf conversion to implementing 452 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,700 capital projects related to parks and open space. 453 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:25,380 When we provided the health equity analysis, we originally used the term burden, and in 454 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:31,080 our update, we've replaced that term with prevalence to, we don't want to imply that 455 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,240 it's a burden on the community, but more the prevalence of these health conditions. 456 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:41,760 We updated the Ainsley-Garden patio recommendation to indicate that it's going to be grass turf, 457 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,340 that the grass turf is going to be changed to accessible patio space for year-round events. 458 00:41:46,340 --> 00:41:56,620 And we added language in the document to provide additional planting to improve the air quality and support biodiversity in the city. 459 00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:09,610 After this plan is presented to the commission, we provided additional edits to the document that the commissioners provided, which were excellent comments to be incorporated. 460 00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:18,550 So, we provided three new, more system-wide recommendations that were to ensure that parks 461 00:42:18,550 --> 00:42:23,290 as their plans and developed and improved include connected and circular walking paths, 462 00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:28,590 so that folks can get really used out of this, out of pedestrian mobility in their parks. 463 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:33,750 We added a system-wide recommendation to add an additional sport court where it is feasible 464 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:38,590 in the future, and we added a system-wide recommendation to provide additional interpretive 465 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:43,430 signage and parks for things like native habitat areas. 466 00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:48,750 We also provided language to explore land development requirements and park deficient 467 00:42:48,750 --> 00:42:57,650 areas so that the city has some language to pursue to pursue park additional acquisition 468 00:42:57,650 --> 00:43:01,790 of park lands in those areas that we've identified as park land deficient. 469 00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:07,190 We added the open space authorities local funding program as an existing funding option. 470 00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:14,530 And we removed, we deleted the recommendation to remove the rose blush at the rose blushes 471 00:43:14,530 --> 00:43:21,370 at Hyde Park and changed that language to enforce low water sustainable plantings. 472 00:43:24,430 --> 00:43:30,810 So these are notes that we just want to clarify that these site-specific projects, for changes 473 00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:37,290 to our site-specific projects, our recommendations, we recommend they be included and we have included 474 00:43:37,290 --> 00:43:43,990 them but it will be dependent on city's council decision. We saw in a variety of our comments, 475 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:50,270 particularly those online, that there were comments that this master plan should address climate 476 00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:55,570 related issues. However, that's not in the scope of this project. So, just wanted to clarify that. 477 00:43:56,390 --> 00:44:03,990 And similarly, safe access for bikes and pedestrians and around parks. That also is not quite the 478 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:10,790 scope of this and we want to clarify that this plan is intended to work in tandem with 479 00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:15,510 the city's climate action plan as well as multi-modal transportation plan. 480 00:44:16,890 --> 00:44:23,690 One, a couple other additional items to note, as we received comments as there was some confusion 481 00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:29,830 regarding the term turf, in this document, turf means natural grass turf and we did provide 482 00:44:29,830 --> 00:44:35,970 clarifying language throughout the document, and we are not proposing athletic artificial 483 00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:36,450 turf. 484 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:44,650 And then regarding budget, you know, Natasha added this excellent note that this master 485 00:44:44,650 --> 00:44:50,490 plan is providing a roadmap for future planning projects, and in many ways it's a framework 486 00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:51,290 for improvements. 487 00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:58,250 So we've identified, MIG has identified the three categories of recommendations, and when 488 00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:59,690 and we see that they could be implemented. 489 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,520 But of course, as things change and evolve in your community, we would recommend that you pursue these recommendations as funds become available. 490 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,020 And that is my presentation. 491 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:20,590 Thank you, Lauren. So that concludes our presentation tonight. I'm happy to answer any questions that Council might have. 492 00:45:24,170 --> 00:45:26,910 Thanks so much for your questions from Council. Thanks, 493 00:45:29,230 --> 00:45:29,710 Natasha. 494 00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:36,690 At one point, I've seen a capital improvement of 21 million, and then I saw on a note 495 00:45:36,690 --> 00:45:38,890 it was 17 million, over five years. 496 00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:41,350 I didn't see it in the presentation. 497 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:42,770 Am I interpreting that right? 498 00:45:43,870 --> 00:45:46,990 The capital improvement for all the projects in this plan? 499 00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:49,310 Yeah, over the next five years. 500 00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:50,970 The prioritized list. 501 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:55,990 I would have to go into the appendices real quick and confirm. 502 00:45:55,990 --> 00:46:01,910 So, there's a short term list that says pick and choose from this 0 to 5. 503 00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:02,810 Yeah, okay. 504 00:46:03,390 --> 00:46:04,470 Alright, there it is. 505 00:46:04,650 --> 00:46:06,550 Yeah, there it is right there. 506 00:46:06,670 --> 00:46:11,090 Okay, so it's in the, it's in the pen, it's okay, thank you. 507 00:46:11,090 --> 00:46:11,250 Yes. 508 00:46:11,530 --> 00:46:14,390 Alright, and good to, good to see it. 509 00:46:15,010 --> 00:46:19,370 You know, we'll see what we can do in five years as far as that. 510 00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:22,170 And then just to clarify a question on your fees. 511 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:35,590 My understanding that fees for parking rights currently include the operational expense and costs, but don't really include a depreciation or repair costs for services, right? 512 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:46,270 That is correct. So in recreation community services budget, it includes all staff time and operational expenditures and randomly utilities for the whole campus. 513 00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:53,750 if it does not include maintenance and parks are part of public works, so two separate things. 514 00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:58,590 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Boehme. 515 00:46:59,550 --> 00:47:02,890 Natasha, I didn't see any or I probably missed it. 516 00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:09,590 Comments about the community garden and it is morally park. Is that, was that looked at at all? 517 00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:15,930 It is part of the inventory for sure, so it was acknowledged and addressed. It was not something 518 00:47:15,930 --> 00:47:23,410 that came up very aggressively in community input as far as expansion or those types of things 519 00:47:23,410 --> 00:47:23,710 either. 520 00:47:24,070 --> 00:47:27,490 And do we still have a demand for space there? 521 00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:32,810 I know at one point there was like a waiting list for people to spend years ago. 522 00:47:33,070 --> 00:47:38,950 They did a revamp of the policies for that that went through the Parks and Recreation Commission 523 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:42,070 and since that time, they have not had that same issue. 524 00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:46,890 There is a really good availability short-waving list kind of thing. 525 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:48,990 So they're really on top of Becca. 526 00:47:49,570 --> 00:47:51,670 They are a does a great job of managing that. 527 00:47:51,870 --> 00:47:53,850 And it's not like it used to be. 528 00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:54,030 No. 529 00:47:54,270 --> 00:47:54,550 Okay. 530 00:47:54,810 --> 00:47:55,150 Thank you. 531 00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:57,630 Thank you. 532 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:58,530 Gail Schmerz-Kazel. 533 00:47:59,250 --> 00:47:59,510 Thank you. 534 00:48:00,250 --> 00:48:01,590 I was very curious. 535 00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:03,950 Maybe I don't know if you haven't answered for this. 536 00:48:04,030 --> 00:48:08,290 But how often are the bleachers at the track utilized by large crowds? 537 00:48:08,730 --> 00:48:11,390 You know, were there filled up to a certain degree? 538 00:48:12,210 --> 00:48:15,030 not as frequently as you would imagine. 539 00:48:15,350 --> 00:48:18,510 So, I think when the Community Center Master Plan 540 00:48:18,510 --> 00:48:21,870 and the connectivity was done in 0506, 541 00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:25,790 during that time, we had Campbell Popp corner. 542 00:48:26,130 --> 00:48:28,810 It was the group, which was a big football group. 543 00:48:30,110 --> 00:48:34,790 And they, I think in like 18, 19 stopped their program. 544 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:36,750 Sorry, I'm looking more suspicious, they expert on that one. 545 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:39,070 So, since they haven't been here, 546 00:48:39,070 --> 00:48:42,710 it has not been as heavily used as prior years. 547 00:48:42,910 --> 00:48:45,450 It does get used during soccer season, 548 00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:48,450 but not, I mean, football was really what brought it out. 549 00:48:48,590 --> 00:48:49,870 And it used to be too sighted. 550 00:48:49,870 --> 00:48:52,270 So when we did the reband for those 506, 551 00:48:52,270 --> 00:48:53,530 we just did a single side. 552 00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:55,110 We took out half of it completely. 553 00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:59,690 Okay, yeah, just to follow up on more of this line of questioning, 554 00:49:00,030 --> 00:49:02,970 so about whether there was maybe the most popular, 555 00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:04,590 if it was the popcorn or a football, 556 00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:06,830 was it really, really filled out? 557 00:49:06,990 --> 00:49:07,850 Or was there always, 558 00:49:07,850 --> 00:49:11,710 like the biggest event that we had, whatever that may be, 559 00:49:12,330 --> 00:49:18,630 because I'm asking this question because I did see that there was a possible recommendation to actually remove some 560 00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:21,350 and then put in possibly some more exercise equipment. 561 00:49:21,850 --> 00:49:25,690 I thought that was an interesting option, so I'm just wondering if that happens, 562 00:49:25,690 --> 00:49:28,430 like how much would be wise to take away from? 563 00:49:29,350 --> 00:49:33,930 Yeah, I mean that would be, if that project would move forward, 564 00:49:34,050 --> 00:49:35,570 that would go through a public process. 565 00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:41,770 That is a challenging space because it butts up to neighbors, so being respectful and mindful 566 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:45,630 of the neighbors who live on the other side of that fence, the bleachers do provide 567 00:49:45,630 --> 00:49:48,530 privacy and soundbreak barrier as well. 568 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:54,870 We also host the Highland Games on our campus as well, and that was heavily used during that 569 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:55,390 time. 570 00:49:55,390 --> 00:49:59,810 really for life it gets used so it depends on the special event 571 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:28,780 That draws the crowd that comes out, but yeah, the traditional football we don't have on our campus right now. Okay, and so, so it sounds like there's always potential for a large event where we might actually need to utilize all of those. Okay. And then so my next question would be, are there either sites, potential sites for more exercise equipment at the community center, if we don't go with that one possible recommendation of removing some of the bleachers? Additional outdoor? Yes. 572 00:50:28,780 --> 00:50:36,700 is at the community center. There's always potential, so that would be, you know, a different 573 00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:41,080 project for you to be looking at. So, yeah, when the time comes for, like, a community center 574 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,360 master plan, it could be a discussion point for you. Great. Okay, thank you. Uh-huh. Let's see 575 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:52,160 if I have another one. Actually, I have a question for Brian. Can you please remind me that 576 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,620 estimate yearly revenues this city should receive so long as Measure K gets the green light 577 00:50:56,620 --> 00:51:01,960 officially because I saw the 51 million big number needed to cover like the 578 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,920 grand span of things. So I just want to kind of get a feel of you know the 579 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,100 bear in mind to the 51 million includes 11 million of acquisition you know if 580 00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:16,340 we had the opportunity to purchase land in parked efficient areas this would be 581 00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:20,420 projects that we would go after right. So in more than 40 cents it's more about 582 00:51:20,420 --> 00:51:29,900 about $39.40 million, but I think across the board, I think every city in this county probably has the same amount of money and 583 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:32,240 appreciating assets in their government facilities. 584 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,400 So, yeah, I don't know the answer to the measure pay, though. 585 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,420 Yeah, can you repeat the specific question? 586 00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:48,460 Oh, just like the bulk part figure when the estimate was originally in the information that this is approximately what we predict the early, it would generate. 587 00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:51,220 Thank you. 588 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:51,440 Thank you. 589 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:51,780 Thank you. 590 00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:54,980 Thank you. 591 00:51:55,140 --> 00:51:55,320 Thank you. 592 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,760 Thank you. 593 00:51:56,900 --> 00:51:57,200 Thank you. 594 00:51:57,620 --> 00:52:02,980 First of all, I wanted to indicate I appreciate the community outreach that you as well as the 595 00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:06,100 Parks and Recreation Commission did to solicit public opinion. 596 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:14,280 I know it's impossible to summarize everything, but I just wondered if you had any comments on ideas 597 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:20,100 or thoughts or any consistencies at all on public comments, do they feel we were generally 598 00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:25,320 successful should we do more or less of this and that? I just I don't know if you can summarize 599 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,860 those kind of things but I'd be curious if you had any comments. The online comment card with 600 00:52:29,860 --> 00:52:37,640 a 47 comments was probably 15 unique people so just keep that context in mind because the way we set 601 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:43,000 up the comment card was for them to be very specific at a specific location within the plan 602 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,280 And so those 47 comments, you know, you can dwindle down. 603 00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:53,080 There was half dozen, it doesn't, that were all in the air that we made on table 2.2, 604 00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:53,440 you know. 605 00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:55,700 And so kind of figuring those ones out. 606 00:52:55,700 --> 00:53:01,540 There were a few kind of one-off things about climate or things like that where it wasn't 607 00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:05,840 necessarily the scope of this master plan and it's also addressed for the city's climate 608 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,580 action plan. 609 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,700 And the other note that I had them add in about access, safe bicycle and pedestrian access 610 00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:18,180 coming into parks and again not necessarily the scope of this plan but also being addressed in a 611 00:53:18,180 --> 00:53:24,100 different format from the city of the multimodal transportation plan. We had some things about how 612 00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:29,700 we communicate out seemed to be a theme. We did a fairly decent job of generalizing what they 613 00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:34,800 were and those were the items that we kind of addressed in the changes and I tried to be thoughtful 614 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,860 in the things that we weren't going to change that we at least publicly kind of stated why we weren't 615 00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:40,120 right. 616 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:46,280 If they were very specific to a project, we generally stayed away from that because our 617 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,880 consultants had already done the labor of capital costing, and that creates a domino effect 618 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,240 if you're changing the scope of a very site specific recommendation, then they're going 619 00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:01,560 through the labor of re-costing all of that project, where every project will come through a public 620 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,020 process. 621 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:08,940 And we didn't determine that the singular comment was worthy of going down that path, right? 622 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:15,040 Yeah, good. That was a nice summary, actually. Thank you very much for that. Thank you. 623 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:22,060 Yeah, thank you all. All those are outflansers. I don't have additional ones. So if let's see if 624 00:54:22,060 --> 00:54:23,860 we have any public comment on this. 625 00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:30,990 Great. We'll close with a comment and bring it back for any 626 00:54:30,990 --> 00:54:31,990 discussion from council. 627 00:54:36,260 --> 00:54:37,580 Let's start on the side of the councilors. 628 00:54:38,180 --> 00:54:46,760 Thank you. So I understand we're very much about water conservation. We do have that 629 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,260 giant log, and I saw that it was noted on the southern end of the communing center, 630 00:54:50,980 --> 00:54:57,740 converting it to much more friendly conservation, water conservation, whatever that may be. 631 00:54:58,260 --> 00:54:59,960 But I don't know how... 632 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:26,590 I'm not an expert by any means in regards to trees, but I remember a certain person recommending maybe we could have an orchard somewhere in the orchard city. And so I just put out the comment that maybe that would be really fine, even if it's a very small heart, you know, but just actually planting some fruit trees and having a little mini orchard right there at the commissar for orchard city. So that's all. Thanks so much. Any other comments? 633 00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:32,020 Yeah, Councilmember Mike. Natasha and your team. 634 00:55:32,020 --> 00:55:39,560 And just very impressed with the thoroughness and extent of the report that you put together 635 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,600 and it gives direction that we can review. 636 00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:49,140 So just a standing work on that and then great to have it done from Edith Morley. 637 00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:51,140 I'd love to be able to bike to Edith Morley. 638 00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:57,880 So that's just a perfect, perfect, I've already made my comments on that. 639 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:26,080 I'm concerned about the 17 million, I just want us to look at that carefully and set the expectations, I totally understand the reasoning for that, I just want us to be able to manage that carefully, I don't agree with my council member that measure K is going to solve that, I think we need to be able to look at that carefully and come up with how we're going to approach it. 640 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:33,540 And I know that you've heard this before from some of my predecessors with the fees that 641 00:56:33,540 --> 00:56:34,600 we're looking at. 642 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:41,580 They cover the operational costs, but I think that they need to include some capital depreciation 643 00:56:41,580 --> 00:56:46,800 costs in those fees as well, but just an outstanding work in putting it all together. 644 00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:49,300 Thank you. 645 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,940 I also just want to add my comments. 646 00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:58,720 This is one of the best documents I've seen in terms of the process and the community input 647 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:04,020 and the final product. I really appreciate the transparency going through the comments that you released. 648 00:57:04,340 --> 00:57:08,800 And then I agree that the answer to the vice-president's question was extremely helpful 649 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:16,140 in terms of providing even more insight. And so why did it or did it make some of those changes 650 00:57:16,140 --> 00:57:32,720 and help me also to re-contextualize where we are as a council in that and so with my feedback it's not so much to take apart specific projects or say we should or we should and I think it's helpful to start broad. 651 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:41,700 Do the costing out of those capital costs and understand that for any of these we will have a public process and a full vetting. 652 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:47,880 So, with that understanding the scope of this specific document, I think it's an excellent 653 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:55,480 place and will be really helpful, and actually I appreciate comments that you made just 654 00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:01,040 now because they align with something that I was thinking about how much all this intersects 655 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:07,680 with things like land use and things like public works, other issues that we talk, absolutely 656 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:13,700 the multi mobility work that we're doing and so what I really appreciate is that now we have 657 00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:20,060 something that can integrate into those decisions and really have I'm really feeling that although 658 00:58:20,060 --> 00:58:24,720 these are separate documents we have an overarching strategy as a city I think this was the major 659 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:31,080 missing piece we have a lot of great work that's been done in other areas but I think this is going 660 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:37,900 put us in a really exciting place. So thank you for your work and the consultants for, you know, 661 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,440 in some ways a long process, but I'm also pleasantly surprised by just the turnaround in which all 662 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:50,920 so much work was done and really made significant progress. So thank you all for your work. And with that, 663 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:58,400 I will accept a motion in a second to adopt a resolution of proving the Parks and Recreation 664 00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,860 Mr. Plan. 665 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,300 So move. 666 00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:01,580 Second. 667 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:02,680 Thank you. 668 00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:05,360 Say clerk, could we have the roll, please? 669 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,420 Council Member Baibi. 670 00:59:07,540 --> 00:59:07,660 Aye. 671 00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:09,100 Council Member Heinz. 672 00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:09,300 Aye. 673 00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:11,280 Council Member Scazola. 674 00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:11,660 Aye. 675 00:59:11,980 --> 00:59:12,860 Vice Mayor Furtado. 676 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:13,260 Aye. 677 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,100 Mayor Lopez. 678 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:14,940 Aye. 679 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:15,760 Thank you so much. 680 00:59:16,180 --> 00:59:19,220 That passes and thank you again, staff, or your work. 681 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,720 Today we have no unfinished business, and so we're on to our last item, Council Committee 682 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,220 reports. 683 00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:30,000 and he wants to start his off if you'd like to report it. 684 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,900 I don't have anything to report. 685 00:59:34,060 --> 00:59:35,660 Other than I want to thank Councilmember Hines 686 00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:38,000 for attending the City's Association meetings 687 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,640 for me at the last minute. 688 00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:42,380 Thank you. 689 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,840 Go ahead, Councillor Hanks. 690 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,480 Okay, thank you very much. 691 00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:48,500 I just want to emphasize the DCBA 692 00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:52,520 as a wine walk coming up on September 18th, 693 00:59:52,580 --> 00:59:54,100 just a couple of days. 694 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,680 So they've really done an excellent amount of work 695 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,960 and putting that together. 696 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,620 And can't do that without showing the October fest. Let's come it up in there as well. I did attend the CASSE on 9-11 where there were a fair amount of good discussion around the final bills that are being done. And then I just wanted to do a shout out to the chamber and the economic development work that's being done in Campbell. One of the cities was celebrating finally having the ribbon cutting. Seriously, they're celebrating it. 697 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:35,620 With the chamber, we have one a week, so it means that there's a new business that's 698 01:00:35,620 --> 01:00:44,520 opening up once every week, so just to excellent work on that, I had a me and 150 other people 699 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:52,700 enjoy the Hope Services Fund Racing event yesterday, just put on by Kyoto Palace and just 700 01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:53,640 a great work on that. 701 01:00:53,640 --> 01:01:00,820 I wanted to do a shout-out to my favorite arborist, Abel, for a quick response to a constituent 702 01:01:00,820 --> 01:01:07,140 that was having an issue with the Canford Trees in our area, so I just want to really 703 01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:11,900 able to do a great job of being able to respond to that quickly. I went to the 100-year 704 01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:19,400 anniversary of the birthdays and the chamber at Merrill Gardens and Ainsley House. I'll 705 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,160 celebrate it under a year, so just for great. Final shout out to Lacan de Sorrento, great 706 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:30,920 Italian restaurant. Really, I encourage you to try, you know, right Campbell, I encourage 707 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:37,200 you to try the Ravioli, the arugusta. Sorry, you don't have to get Italian to pronounce 708 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,660 it right. And they're tiramisu. Thank you. Thanks so much. Councillor Esquizola, do you 709 01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:47,540 want to continue and maybe give us some pointers on Italian? I'd never do that. 710 01:01:47,540 --> 01:02:03,980 All right. So first off, Silicon Valley Clean Energy. So, if you're SVCE customer, get ready, you're going to get a bill credit, and it was $33 million until it's a pretty big, big removal for our customers this year. 711 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:14,400 I also attended the VTA Policy Advisory Committee, and I also attended the Centennial Chamber of Commerce event, which was quite lovely. 712 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,100 That's it. 713 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,160 Thank you. 714 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:18,000 Vice Mayor Fritano. 715 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:18,760 I don't have a report. 716 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:19,900 Okay. 717 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:29,120 I also want to share that I attended the Chambers 100th anniversary event, what a fun 718 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,520 event. 719 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:34,620 It was my first time being in that particular space within Merrill Gardens. 720 01:02:34,660 --> 01:02:38,360 I thought what a great asset here. 721 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,360 You walk around. 722 01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:43,140 There's all the vibrancy with the shops and you go inside and there's this great beautiful 723 01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:49,540 community space that is new and maintained. So it was great that the residents could be there. 724 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:56,240 We had some special guests and then so many people from the community. Really a unique event. 725 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,140 Congratulations. 726 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:08,160 Mainly for me, a few different VTA events and committee meetings. The main one 727 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:32,880 And then I'll share is that at our September 4th VDA Board meeting, we essentially, as a board and as a county reaffirmed or re-opted in on our commitment to SB 63, which is the five county regional measure and the opportunity for that to be put on the ballot as this is an initiative. 728 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:39,860 there were some changes in legislation which actually strengthened it in terms of protecting 729 01:03:39,860 --> 01:03:44,820 the funding that's going to come back to Santa Clara County and that 730 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:51,760 bargaining result in greatly reduced volatility. So if there's upturns or downturns, 731 01:03:51,820 --> 01:03:55,680 our revenue is protected and we'll come back to our county. That was the result of 732 01:03:55,680 --> 01:04:01,560 intense negotiations and so it did mean that the out of technicality, the previous motion, 733 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:09,700 the board had made, which I recorded on a month ago, had to be re-upped, but for a good reason. 734 01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:16,200 In this case, and that bill did pass out of both houses of the legislature and is now waiting 735 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,480 to governors. So, you're sure, and I'm always happy to chat more. People have questions. It would 736 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:28,460 be if it qualifies it'd be on the November 2026 ballot. And those are my reports.