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In accordance with chapter 5, to one of the government code, the city council will now convene in a closed executive session, pursuant to the following provisions of the Texas open meeting.

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Section 5 to 1.071, Section 1 and 2, 5 to 2.072, 5 to 1.074, 5 to 1.087, in accordance with agenda items B1, A through B, B2, A through E, B3, A, B4, A through B and B5, A.

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The council will briefly recess before recommitting an executive session.

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We will reconvene and move into the open meeting portion, and we will begin with the indication.

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The council member, boarder.

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The captain, Roger Wilson, who will be the implication this evening.

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So please all stand.

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Shall we pray? Our most gracious Heavenly Father, we humbly bow our heads and honor and gratitude for your mercy.

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Your unfailing love toward us and your personal blessings upon everyone here this evening.

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Everyone here was born in original, far from being average and ordinary.

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God, we are your highest creation, fearfully and wonderfully made.

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Your workmanship is marvelous. You knew all the days of our lives before we began to breathe.

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How precious are your thoughts about us.

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Father, you earned a transform us into amazing human beings who can love each other with genuine affection and take delight in honoring each other.

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Lord, we live in such a chaotic world. Many times our hearts are so troubled and weary.

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Give us forgiving hearts because you have forgiven us.

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Only you can help us to choose to be patient and kind in challenging situations.

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And to do our best to live in harmony and peace with each other.

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Help us to choose to reach out to those around us who seem to be struggling along the pathway of life.

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And this great wonderful, amazing world in which we live with our families.

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We ask Father that you give our mayor, city manager, city council members, your wisdom.

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Please help them use their God-given gifts and talents for your glory.

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Give them courage and integrity.

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Help them lead us honor and bless them as they serve to the best of their ability.

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Help us not to worry about anything instead pray about everything.

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Let everyone see that we are in considerate in all we do.

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Help each of us to fix our thoughts and what is true, honourable, right, pure, lovely and admirable.

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Father, please watch over and protect all of our first responders and their families.

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Fire, police, emergency medical services.

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And those serving a military around the world as we speak.

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May the God of peace be with each of us.

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And may He bless this great nation.

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We ask all of this in the marvelous, powerful, life-transforming name of our Heavenly Father, amen.

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Do you want us for the pledges?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And to the Republic for which stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Honor of the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state under God, one indivisible.

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I pledge allegiance to the Texas flag, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God.

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Thank you for taking care of us.

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There's a lot of microphones on there.

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We'll pick a heck of a meeting to do this.

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So welcome.

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So the key to the city is the highest honor that the city council can

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can be so on someone and it's generally made for service to the city

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that is really above and beyond.

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I first, of course, became acquainted with Rick McLaughlin

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in his white market.

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Many years ago when Cedar Park Center was a now H&D Center

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at Cedar Park City, to get an idea to make that production.

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When Cedar Park Center was an idea and Rick was the

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designate on the star side to really figure out a way

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to make the building work.

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Fast forward to many years later that building is really a great

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success of one of the great crangles of the city.

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And Rick recently retired.

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It's not only the president of the hockey team.

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It is the general manager of the facility.

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And the seat of the facility today.

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And it's very fine.

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A position is very much due to the efforts of Rick.

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Under suit from the beginning that this was going to, that this was a public asset.

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But he brought the expertise from the private side and

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really making everything go.

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Rick has had a very distinguished career prior to the joining of Cedar

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and Cedar Park.

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Your name is all in the Stanley Cup twice, I believe.

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It was a Pittsburgh and it was with Dallas.

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And it had a really remarkable career.

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And I think that we're all very fortunate here in Cedar Park

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that this venture that we began many years ago with the building had

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someone with the leadership and the foresight of Rick and Longland.

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Rick, you took a project.

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It's not just really competitive.

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And you really made it go from your insight during the construction on what sort of

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pandemics and how we were going to track those events.

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So later on the partnership with the city.

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Because it really is a partnership.

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And you're always a dream to work with.

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And you took a very large public asset and it's very, very successful

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for Cedar Park residents for it.

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So for these reasons and more.

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You know, on the help celebrate your retirement.

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We certainly mentioned that we celebrate all the years that we had.

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We are very, very honored to present you with the pieces of Cedar Park.

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Thank you.

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Cedar, thank you.

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This is the time on the meeting for residents to visit with the council about items that are not posted

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for for public comment.

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We asked you to keep your comments to three minutes.

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We have several cards.

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Which I will begin making my way through.

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Just as a reminder, I know that a lot of folks are here for a highly charged emotional issue.

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And just as a reminder for how we generally like to do things around here.

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Let's keep all of our comments.

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Respectful and in keeping with the the idea of sharing information.

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So with that said, the first card I have is Anne Coil.

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Can you follow up by Jesse Mayhand.

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Thank you.

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Is there a clock that I can.

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Yeah, there will be up there.

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Thank you.

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My name is Anne Coil.

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I've had been here for about five years and had various interactions with the Cedar Park Police

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Department in response to helping clients of mine and various aspects.

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I have to say here when I first heard about the meeting earlier this morning.

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I got online.

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I looked at the agenda.

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And I saw that there was nothing on the agenda for open comment about the police to for police force.

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I did notice that there was something in a close meeting that was going to be discussed.

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So you can imagine my surprise when a hundred seat auditorium is filled with a hundred or so police officers.

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That's quite disturbing.

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And I think that if the combined intelligence of the city council doesn't recognize that for what it is,

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that I think the citizens of Cedar Park may have some rethinking to do when they go to vote during the next selection.

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And this is let me tell you what I see here.

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What I see here and this is not what I plan to say.

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What I see here is something that obviously was a close meeting,

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meaning the public does not have a right to know what was discussed,

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concerning whatever it was about the Cedar Park Police Department.

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But obviously it's very clear that the Cedar Park law enforcement community does have the right to know.

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And they are here.

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And so I think the citizens of Cedar Park should process that.

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And a city council should process that as well.

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That's disturbing.

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The other part that's disturbing is that I'm imagining that since there's communication devices on most of these uniforms that most of them are on the clock,

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which means the citizens of Cedar Park are paying for them to be here,

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which is a message that they are sending in their solidarity.

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They're sending a message to the citizens of Cedar Park that they would rather take their money to be here to show an armed source of force of solidarity.

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OK, rather than take the citizens money to be out interfacing with the community and serving and protecting the community.

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Now, I have had interaction with many of the police officers at Cedar Park,

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and I'm not trying to disparage those individuals.

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What I'm talking about is this specific act here, because that gets us into the next thing,

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which I did want to talk about, which is it takes a certain confidence as relative.

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Competence in a cashier is one thing, takes a different level of skill to be a competent police officer,

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and it takes a completely different level, higher level of confidence to be a leader of a police force,

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because that police force is made of humans who are inherently fallible.

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They will make flaws, their emotions may get the better of them sometimes,

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but that leader has to be more than just a nice guy.

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And a nice guy doesn't cut it because what you end up with when you have a nice guy who is leading them,

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you end up with people who are in jail, people who are let free, who are criminals,

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and they victimize other people.

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That's a very important issue.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you for your time.

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This may hand, followed by Michael Apalia.

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And by the way, I apologize in advance if I brutalize anyone's names.

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It's not intentional.

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Good evening.

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First off, when I think everybody for allowing us to speak,

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I also want to thank the police force for showing up.

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I can only assume reading the core values and the mission statement,

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which outline accountability and how they'll hold each one of their own to be accountable

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that they're here to hold their officers accountable,

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and not to defend incompetence.

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I'm going to read just a small passage that was in print here the last few days.

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Speaking of Texas Ranger Cody Mitchell, who asked to witness to last week,

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he spoke on the stand concerning the behavior and conduct of Sergeant Daley,

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who is the head of all investigations in the city of Cedar Park.

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Mr. Mitchell said,

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It is actually frightened him if he were to be accused of a crime in the city of Cedar Park.

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I would be scared to think that I could be in the same position.

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Basic elements of investigation such as visiting the crime scene, taking pictures,

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interviewing possible witnesses, looking for corroborative evidence, were missed.

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Knowing some way to be could be charged, tried and imprisoned based on such minimal evidence as disturbing he said.

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Cedar Park, please chief, has repeatedly said he supports the detectives work.

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So once again, I would like to request the termination of chief manics and Sergeant Daley,

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based on their behavior.

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I believe there's enough information out in the public domain at this point to grade them on.

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I have emailed the council. I did receive one reply from Mr. Arsdale and I appreciate that Mr. Arsdale.

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And it seemed as though the council was going to be in a holding pattern or awaiting some type of process.

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I would like to know exactly what that process is and what you guys are looking for.

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What levels of incompetence.

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And that's what we'd like to know as citizens. And once again, I would like to thank all the police officers for coming out and hope that they're planning on holding their own accountable as it says in the mission statement and core values which I'll have associate reading here in a moment based on time. Thank you.

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Thank you very much. And anyone is allowed to speak, but if you wouldn't mind just everyone just kind of sharing, you know, at least what city you live in.

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Mayor, if I can jump in here, I'd like to clarify the city's policy in this council's authority with respect to personnel matters.

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They're generally administrative in nature and those are within the purview of the city manager miss Evans, not the city council, you guys don't have authority over personnel matters.

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So basically we don't have the authority to turn anyone beyond really the two of you.

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You have authority over miss Evans and myself as employees of the city, but no other personnel.

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Thank you. And Ms. Quail, you're a resident of the Anders, that's right.

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Okay. And Mr. Mayan, George Champs.

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Yes, sir. Again, anyone's welcome to speak at our meeting.

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No. No, I do business in Cedar Park. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Mr. Bolipalia.

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Followed by Ms. Brimberry.

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Well, sir. Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak Mayor and city council members.

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I grew up in this city. I'm the now a resident of Austin, Texas in the Standard Ranch area. I grew up here for 20 years, went to Leander High School.

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I want to start by saying this is not I am not here in any way shape or form as an attack on the Cedar Park police.

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My grandfather was a police officer for 40 years.

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I have family members who are who have served in protecting and do it well and do the job well.

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I know the responsibility and the burden that the job carries and I do very much appreciate what you guys do.

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That being said, what we saw testified to last week.

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What we saw Williamson County District Attorney Shondick say publicly that he called the Cedar Park Police investigation

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in the criminal justice system in this case as a whole, a catastrophic failure.

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I would have to 100% agree with that. And I would hope that you guys would agree with that.

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Mrs. Evans, I hope that you will take your chair and take this opportunity for accountability.

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Like Jesse said, what level of incompetence merits determination?

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We have a leader of the Cedar Park Police who called Sergeant Daily's work.

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Some of the best police work he's ever seen. He called our group a cult.

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He attacked. He did personal attacks. He took part on Twitter on Jesse personally on personal attacks on Twitter.

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You're chief of police. You have Sergeant Daily. He was promoted since this case to the head of investigations.

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He is now in charge of all investigations. If I understand correctly for Cedar Park.

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And he didn't even show up to the crime scene.

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He took any pictures from what I understand. He made two phone calls, made an assumption on a young man facing 25 years to life.

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And it was on the prosecution team. It was a member of the prosecution team for Williamson County that said that asked him to point blank while he was on the stand.

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Sir, do you know the golden rule? I don't think he knew.

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And then he said, found in Matthew 7, you know, do unto others as you would want done unto you.

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That was not done. And we as the citizens and as the people, we appreciate this opportunity.

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We appreciate the responsibility. We appreciate the responsibility that you all have.

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But this is an opportunity for accountability and get things right.

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And I really sincerely hope that we take it. Thank you.

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Hello and good evening. My name is Pam Brimberry. I was a resident of Cedar Park for 20 years.

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And was at the time of Greg Kelly's conviction and incarceration.

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I'm currently a resident in logo visit Texas.

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I'm a small business owner and started that business in Cedar Park and still have clients in this area.

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I would like to read the mission and core values of the Cedar Park Police Department to enhance the quality of life in the city through a proactive and professional level of police service to maintain a strong commitment to excellence

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to ensure safety through integrity, trust and accountability to treat all persons with respect, dignity and equality

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and to build partnerships with the community to meet current and future challenges while staying true to our core values, life, law, integrity, accountability, service, community partnerships and excellence.

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Core values, life, we hold the preservation of life as our sacred duty.

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Law, we recognize our fundamental responsibility to obey and enforce the law with fairness, equality and without bias.

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Integrity, we accept nothing less than truth, honesty, integrity and consistent, high standards of moral and ethical conduct, accountability.

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We believe our actions and decisions are accountable to each other in the community we serve.

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Service, we are dedicated to courteous, compassionate, and effective service to our community.

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Community partnerships, we rely on essential community partnerships to exchange ideas and anticipate problems from out prevention and create awareness in an effort to reduce crime.

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Excellence, we strive for excellence through a continuous improvement for suit of knowledge, attention to detail and vision for the future.

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And I would just like to say that based on witnessing Greg's trial and witnessing the hearing that was held last week that these core values in this mission statement was were not appealed by officer, then detective daily and now sergeant daily.

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It was upsetting to hear him admit over and over again that he violated department procedures.

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It was upsetting that he failed department procedures by interrogating the child walking into the interview with his gun and questioning him deleting emails from the police department and from the CPS agent and that those were both deleted and unavailable from the server was concerning.

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Also, he went ask what the ultimate goal of an investigation is.

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He immediately said successful prosecution.

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He was an interested in the truth and it was obvious from the result of his investigation.

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I thank you for your time. I thank the Cedar Park Police Department.

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I hope you all will hold officer daily accountable and I hope that you will also hold the leadership of the Cedar Park Police Department accountable for endorsing and commending this behavior.

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Thank you very much.

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Ms. Kelly, followed by Mr. Smith.

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Good evening to everybody. My name is Rosa Kelly.

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I am the mother of Greg Kelly. I'm just here tonight present to share with you my pain and my concerns.

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Probably most of us, we are parents. Young people probably parents of small children.

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I've been in this community for 25 years, over 25 years.

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I live between Cedar Park and Leanne for the years.

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I try not to see the scene of Lago Bista.

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But my concern to work community is in is why I'm present here to make sure to let you know how painful it is.

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For a young man with so many dreams to achieve, a young man that was in high school,

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is trying to be the best in academics, academics, the best student and most of all a good friend and a good leader in our community.

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My son Greg was sentenced to 25 years of impression for a crime he didn't commit.

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And all this is start because it was none investigation.

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I wasn't shocked the last three days we spent in court to hear.

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How that happened to hear that the investigators supposed to do his job and he did not perform nothing.

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I always wonder and long time when this happened when he's going to come to my house.

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He is for the curiosity to know me, to the curiosity where Greg or Ikelli grew up, who we are as a citizens never.

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He never came to my house and not the door. He never called to our phones. He never interviewed my son.

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What type of what he really, he has is a title.

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Investigate it now he's a sergeant because he's been promoted because he's good work.

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I just want to ask you.

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I have the ability if there's no objection from the council to extend time for one minute.

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I apologize to other speakers because I probably will keep this moving but unless there's any objection.

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I'd like to give Ms. Kelly one additional minute.

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I appreciate. Thank you very much.

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At this time, I want to ask for the termination of chief manics in the termination of Chris Daley.

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Because I see the silver-part police force here.

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And to tell you that truth when I had my small business in the past, I have costumers.

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Can we police officers, sergeants?

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And it's great. I remember my costumers how kind, how fine, how good men they were.

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What I'm looking for is for the dirty for the ones that are corrupt.

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And the police forces to yes step out because you are valuable.

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And you have to shine when you do your work right.

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And we as a community appreciate you but the ones are bringing mud to the police force.

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Are the ones are making problems.

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As a community, I invite everybody to stand up and let's go fight this.

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Not just for my son for all kids.

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And I thank you for your time and I just really looking for the moment that I have my son back.

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Thank you so much.

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Mr. Smith followed by Mr. Young.

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Good evening, Mayor and council members and see you, Mayor.

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My name is Scott Smith. I'm a president of Cedar Park.

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I'm a branch of Russian Creek.

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One thing on the, that was brought up at the three four B meeting.

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It's very dear to my heart as getting Palmer Lane expanded.

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As I sat on Monday night for 45 minutes to drive 2.2 miles.

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It's not too pleasant.

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Our neighbors to the south have granted $17 million.

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So hopefully we can pony up the money with the state and use our political.

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Mustard to get that done instead of 2021, which is projected to start.

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I would hate to know what the fall of 2021 will look like with construction with all the houses built north of us.

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On to the Kelly situation, Greg Kelly.

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I do not know Greg Kelly. I'm not part of this.

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I wasn't even living in Sierra Park. I follow the case.

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I look back on my life. I'm almost 45.

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And I kind of look back and say that I had a, a,

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to kill a mockingbar, bird kind of life.

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My father was a former prosecutor in my home county. He grew up there.

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Practice law. His good friends were detectives and sheriff's and police officers.

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I worked for his law firm. I was in the courthouse every day. I knew the judges.

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I knew the, the police department, the law firm.

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I did criminal work. Later in life, when I was a boy scout, my father arranged me to go to police station and actually see what the jail looked like.

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I was in LA in 92 and that riots erupted. I was at Universal Studios. I saw this structure.

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I was taking a class in college in the summer of 1994 and social problems. You remember that was the summer of OJ Simpson.

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And I had a very eccentric professor. We had a maximum security prison that he taught at and he had the opportunity to give us an opportunity if we want to spend three hours over class time that summer in itself locked.

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That'll change a little bit. Later in my career, I worked in justice. I don't have a justice background. One of my clients is out Los Angeles Police Department.

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And one of the modules I built for their teams too, which is a system that was basically brought in after the justice degree, track lawsuits.

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And my main concern is we have two attorneys as we have a liability. And I really don't want my tax dollars to be settling lawsuits.

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There's better uses like Palmer Lane. Thank you for your time.

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Mr. Young followed by Mr. Anderson.

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Mayor City Council City Manager. I'd like to make a short statement. My name is Dean Young. I'm the president of the Cedar Park Business Police Academy Alumni Association.

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Our organization provides volunteers and works very closely with the Cedar Park Police Department.

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All of its staff, its command staff, its police chief and its officers.

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We have received about 110% support on all the programs that we've run from our chief of police.

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Our command staff, our police officers, our police department, the City of Cedar Park and the community.

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And I want to thank you for allowing me the opportunity to say that. Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Mr. Young. Mr. Anderson followed by Mr. Reagan.

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First of all, I'd like to thank you for allowing me to give up and speak. I didn't realize I'm speaking tonight, but it's important.

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Coach and Todd here at Leander High School for 30 years worked with many of these guys and different people have come through the program.

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And it's at the high school my wife did the dance team for 28 years. Our daughter, her boyfriend's Greg Kelly.

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And I'm going to tell you something just what I've witnessed and what I've been a part of.

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My heart's been broken.

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The Kelly's family's been broken. It started with a perfect storm. The perfect storm was a poured DA and so many other things that were going on where they were just willing to prosecute.

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We heard earlier that when Sergeant Daley was asked, what's that great investigation come to look like?

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It's a successful prosecution.

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One thing I've learned in just teaching people and just working with people is it's so important to understand and also seek truth.

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There's nothing better than a person every human being wants this. They want to feel significance.

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It's so important if you love.

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If you don't take time to get to know who each other are, how can we do that? That didn't happen in this case.

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It became the perfect storm. Great story. These cameras. They took light to it.

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You know, football player, captain of football team. All of a sudden with a poor investigation, it gets out there. The charges made.

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After the charges made, then all of a sudden it just became this wild, circus.

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Greg Kelly, basically, was taken down. It was named Pedophile.

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I'll tell you right now, Greg has a hard of goal. He doesn't have anger and there are some people sitting in here that actually prosecuted him.

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I actually saw a video that said, pray for G.K., and they were laughing and smiling as they pointed toward the camera and pointed and laughing about it.

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To me, that's not professionalism.

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Shamanics. There were many comments that were made about Greg before it ever even had his chance in court saying that at a four year old,

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don't make this stuff up. He didn't ever went to, and never was in the court at that time.

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And he goes on and on and on. And it also, one of your own people here took the report said,

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it's a lie 12th that happened. It happened on July 12th. And then while on the stand, the next person was your sergeant,

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they asked him, when did it happen? What happened between June, December, and June? Why?

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Because they found out that Greg Kelly wasn't in the house on July 12th. He moved out early June.

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If they had taken the time to look into the case, they'd have found that there was a lot more stuff that you could find.

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In fact, we knew a lot of stuff, but I had no credibility that the police at that time, I hadn't had any faith.

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We had information, but there's no way I was going to share that with him because I didn't think it would even even look at it properly.

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So anyway, I really truly asked, please look at these guys.

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You're your chief, and also your sergeant.

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And it's nothing gives me assuming things we all make mistakes, but I'm going to tell you what happened. We have to be accountable.

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When you have too much power, and you have too much strength, it becomes control.

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So accountability is important. Thank you for your time.

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Thank you, Mr. Anderson.

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Mr. Regan, followed by Ms. Whitley.

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Good evening. Thank you for your time.

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I'm here as a concerned citizen of Cedar Park to request the termination of Sean Manix and Chris Daily.

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I believe that there's been a void of leadership that is causing the Cedar Park Police Department to spin out of control a little bit.

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Aside from the obvious deficiencies that happened at the Greg Kelly case, I have personally had an experience with the police department that makes me question their leadership.

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My daughter was pulled over for a registration violation six weeks ago.

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And during that time, she was asked if they could search her car. She declined.

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They pulled her out of her car, made her sit on the car for 20 minutes while the drug dog team showed up.

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The drug team searched her car and they said that the dog indicated, although no drugs were found in her car.

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No part of paraphernalia whatsoever.

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During that search, though, they did find an ID that did not belong to her.

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The police officers lied to her and told her that was a felony and that she could be arrested for that and that they would come to her work and arrest her.

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If she did not cooperate with them and work as a drug informant with the police department.

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So on top of lying to her, they also blackmailed her, I believe.

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At that time, we invoked our right to counsel and a couple of days later after we invoked our right to counsel.

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The officer in question contacted my daughter, which I'm not lawyer, but I believe that is a violation of her civil rights.

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So, like I said, aside from the Greg Kelly situation, which is obviously a huge deficiency in leadership, I believe it's causing more and more problems as time goes on.

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Very unhappy with the way she was treated in the way Greg was treated as well.

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There's a lot of good police officers, I know that, but I know accountability starts at the top and we need a change in leadership in the police department.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you Mr. Regent.

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Ms. Whitley, followed by Ms. Martin.

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Good evening members of City Council, our City Manager, and our community.

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I'm Christy Whitley, the President of the Cedar Park Police Association.

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The minimum women of the Cedar Park Police Association stand before you tonight, voluntarily and off duty.

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In support of our community and our members, our department and our chief, Sean Manix.

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As the police officers for this great city, we strive to make Cedar Park the safest city for both our citizens and those visiting.

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While accomplishing this, we're often tasked with investigating the unimaginable and in the process of handling these delicate situations, it is necessary.

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And reassuring to know that we have the support of our leaders.

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Chief Manix is a true example of someone who works tirelessly to lead and support the men and women of our department.

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His dedication and endless commitment goes above and beyond many others in the state.

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Law enforcement is quite often scrutinized in a number of situations that are publicized in a way that attracts the attention to particular side or cause.

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The professional with wisdom of a police officer and their department are often attacked.

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When these circumstances cannot be immediately addressed or discussed due to the sensitivity of the investigation or the rules of law.

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As members of our police department, we do not allow controversy or criticism to interfere with the professionalism and integrity necessary to carry out our duties for those we serve.

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The men and women of the Cedar Park police association ask the council and city manager.

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And the community to continue and support us in the same unbiased and transparent manner in which we protect you.

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Thank you for your time tonight and God bless.

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Thank you very much.

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Ms. Martin.

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Okay, sorry guys, I'm not here to talk about the police.

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I appreciate you.

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Love y'all.

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I'm here to talk about your trash department.

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I'm assuming that I'm assuming that when one of some media attention on it here.

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No.

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There you go.

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I'm assuming that we changed contracts with a new trash company because we're offered a contract at a lower bid to provide the same level of services as our old company.

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Well, that's not what we're getting.

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Our old company had one guy on a truck.

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No matter what was on that curb, that guy would pick it up.

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Take it off.

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I've even seen him back up halfway down the street because someone was late getting their garbage out.

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Help the man with his trash.

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Our new guys.

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They are not giving the same standard of services at all.

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In fact, maybe six weeks ago, published in our local paper.

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I live in Cedar Park here.

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Yeah, we're going to have a bumpier container and pick up any two items.

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Let me repeat that any two extra items.

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That's a reduction in service.

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Okay, I can do that.

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This week I got no service.

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Yes, I had some additional bags on the street.

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But the guys can buy.

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Look at my can.

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Throw off and lift everything.

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Then any bump the can.

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Much less pick up to additional bags of trash.

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I call them up and say, hey, what's it deal?

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Her customer service rep says, oh, you had construction materials.

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Yeah, I had a couple of boards.

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I'll toss them a trash can from having a garage.

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That that qualifies is getting no service.

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So I'll call you guys.

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You can meet the number for manager at the company.

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So I'm guy named Ben.

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Ben don't answer his phone.

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Ben don't call you back.

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Where's Ben?

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I'm asking you guys to review this contract and check for all the other complaints

428
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
against these guys.

429
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Because that's breach contract.

430
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
I pay a monthly fee.

431
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000
That's breach contract.

432
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000
That wasn't excessive.

433
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
My garbage can't enter on the side of the road.

434
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,000
One must supposed to do a detract.

435
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000
So we've been out there for the records.

436
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,000
Put it in a garage for the rats coming in.

437
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,000
The sink is the sink right.

438
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
And I appreciate you guys.

439
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Please look it over.

440
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Whoever's in charge of those contracts.

441
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,000
You know, first of all, so you get the same set under the service.

442
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
That's what we should get.

443
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
I shouldn't have to be here.

444
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Y'all shouldn't have to listen to this.

445
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Somebody call this guy.

446
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Time to call me.

447
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
Don't come pick up the garbage.

448
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000
We'll find Ben.

449
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,000
Thank you.

450
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
By the way.

451
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
Thank you.

452
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Ms. Martin just to clarify.

453
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
We've actually had the same trash provider for some time.

454
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,000
The last time that they came in front of us for the contract.

455
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000
It was only because they were lowering their rate.

456
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
But because of fuel stuff or whatever.

457
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
But I'm going to have a staff member getting contracts with you.

458
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
They actually have quite a bit of tracking stuff.

459
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
And let's see if we can do a little deeper dive on this.

460
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Yeah.

461
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,000
We went from one guy on a truck.

462
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Did a great job.

463
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Three guys on a truck.

464
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Don't do no job.

465
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
We'll see if we can dig into it for you.

466
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,000
Thank you.

467
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
All right.

468
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
With my thanks for for a very civil discussion.

469
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,000
That concludes citizens communications.

470
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000
And thank you to everyone.

471
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000
I am actually going to be recalling the executive session.

472
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
But after the comment was made,

473
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
I want to make clear.

474
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Again, first, as was stated,

475
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000
we don't make those sort of personal decisions.

476
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,000
But first, second, when discussions,

477
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,000
it's very limited what we talk about in executive session.

478
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
It's not like the secret meeting or anything.

479
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000
I remember when I first got on the city council,

480
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
I was very disappointed when I went into my first executive session.

481
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,000
Because I thought that's where the action would happen.

482
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,000
And it turned out I was a lot of contracts and stuff.

483
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000
But because the conversation,

484
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
what we do is our meetings starts.

485
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
We try to knock it out before we start time.

486
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
And if all of you know when to be here.

487
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
And then if we, if we need to continue,

488
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
we do it after the meeting.

489
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,000
But had a couple of requests from the council that we were kind of stopped

490
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,000
mid-conversation so that we could come out and begin the meeting.

491
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
So with some apologies for those who are planning on

492
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
sicking around for the whole meeting.

493
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
We are going to briefly recall executive session.

494
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,500
On one item, and then we'll come back and continue the meeting as posted on the agenda. So, if you would please call that, please.

495
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:22,500
In, of course, the chapter 5 is to one of the government code, the city council will now convene in the closed executive session, pursuant to the following provisions of the Texas vote with meetings act. Section 5 is to 1.071, subsection 2, and accordance with the agenda item is B to D.

496
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:28,500
The council will briefly recess before re-convening in an exact set.

497
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:46,500
We will re-convene and call up item B to D.

498
00:45:46,500 --> 00:46:02,500
Local issues concerning the state of Texas vs. Gray Kelly, and meeting in the court of criminal pills in the 26th, judicial court of Williamson County, and the training policies, procedures in general orders of the State Department Police Department.

499
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:08,500
All right. The city council has received numerous messages regarding the Kelly case.

500
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,500
We're certainly watching the case closely, and of course, we'll continue to do so.

501
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:19,500
At this time, obviously, the council is not able to comment on going legal proceedings.

502
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:24,500
Let's not forget that a reprehensible crime has been committed against a child.

503
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:32,500
So, our set-fast hope and belief that the legal system will continue to run its course to ensure swift and accurate justice.

504
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:40,500
We trust the men and women of the Police Department and know that they stand ready to work with the DA's office on this in future cases.

505
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:57,500
That being said, I will move to direct the city manager and city attorney for a recommendation as to how the city can move forward with an independent review of the Police Department's policies and procedures pursuant to governing law and civil service rules.

506
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:01,500
Motion in a few seconds. Any discussion council?

507
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:05,500
Hearing none, those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

508
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:11,500
Opposed no. Motion carries, and you can bring us a report back on that when you're ready.

509
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:13,500
All right. Thank you very much.

510
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:17,500
We will get back in order here.

511
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:22,500
Item C5.

512
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:24,500
Any comments?

513
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,500
Not very far along.

514
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:28,500
No.

515
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,500
All right.

516
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:31,500
C6, please.

517
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:36,500
A city manager report in relation to an update on the advanced metering infrastructure project.

518
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:48,500
Council, Madame Bufquick, so if you have any questions, just stop and stop me as we go.

519
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:49,500
A little update.

520
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:56,500
The AMI project is a 20 FY 2016 project that won't stop 20 2000 hasn't stopped 20 2000.

521
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:58,500
Advanced water meters also called smart meters.

522
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,500
That project at this time, the meters have been installed.

523
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,500
The fixed base communication system is up.

524
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:05,500
The billing system integrations complete.

525
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:06,500
Analytics is ready.

526
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:09,500
The residential installations work complete on June 6.

527
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:11,500
The portal configuration and testing is ready.

528
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,500
What the next steps are is a public deployment.

529
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:18,500
And then that's going to give you a little brief overview of what that looks like.

530
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:20,500
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

531
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:21,500
Hello.

532
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:24,500
Many of you have seen this before.

533
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,500
Just a brief reminder of what the customer portal will look like.

534
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,500
This is a picture of the customer dashboard.

535
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:32,500
It is a web-based program.

536
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:34,500
There is no app that is needed.

537
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,500
It can be accessed from any smart device.

538
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:39,500
Probably not a flip phone.

539
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:44,500
It offers a usage comparison of current billing cycle versus your last billing cycle.

540
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:47,500
It allows for you to set alerts.

541
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:49,500
We can push out notifications to residents.

542
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:51,500
There is a little bit of a blank space there.

543
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:53,500
That is for future development.

544
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:55,500
We will have a customized watering schedule.

545
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,500
And then also some information regarding billing tiers.

546
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,500
This is an image from a smart phone.

547
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:06,500
It depicts usage details.

548
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:11,500
It displays hourly, daily, monthly or annual usage views of your choosing.

549
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:17,500
It does overlay corresponding rainfall, temperature data by GPS locations.

550
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:22,500
So the weather reporting station that's closest to you is where that information will come from.

551
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:28,500
As far as usage alerts, currently we have a billing cycle alert that is setable by the customer.

552
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:34,500
They can input the value that they choose to alert me when I reach X number of gallons this billing cycle.

553
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:40,500
Same with a daily usage alert alert me when I use X number of gallons this on any particular day.

554
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:46,500
And then also a vacation alert that you can set if you're not expecting any water to be used when you're expected to be away from home.

555
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,500
It will alert you on that as well.

556
00:49:50,500 --> 00:50:02,500
As far as customer outreach, even though this will be an ongoing media campaign to our residents, we will have a fairly large media push starting on Monday.

557
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:06,500
And it will run through October, like I said it will be ongoing after that.

558
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:17,500
Our plan for outreach is social media, Facebook, Twitter posts, press releases, community impact mailers, which will be the direct mail piece.

559
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:22,500
Resident newsletter, billing inserts and YouTube videos and advertising.

560
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:26,500
And with that, if you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.

561
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:28,500
Any questions, council?

562
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,500
This is just everything that you guys said it would be a more.

563
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,500
So thank you very much.

564
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:36,500
I'm looking forward to seeing you.

565
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:38,500
Thank you so much.

566
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:40,500
C7.

567
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:44,500
A city manager report for an update on the Cedar Park Police Fleet Vehicles.

568
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,500
Mr. Austria.

569
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,500
You bet.

570
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:50,500
My department is a fleet maintenance department.

571
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:52,500
I thought it was appropriate time to give you a little update.

572
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,500
It's been quite a bit of media about calling on oxide leaking in the forward explorers,

573
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,500
like Ford Interceptors, platforms.

574
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:04,500
Specifically, we're talking about the model year 20, 2011 to the current.

575
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,500
Currently, the city has 39 of these police cars.

576
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,500
12 are civilian and marked cars.

577
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:12,500
27 are the police interceptors style.

578
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:16,500
The action taken by Cedar Park so far is we have opened up investigation

579
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:24,500
and discussion with Ford and the National Highway Safety Transportation Administration.

580
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:28,500
They are the folks that would issue any type of recall.

581
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:31,500
We also asked our fleet manager to continue with it.

582
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:36,500
We're calling it enhanced routine inspection of the vehicles by certified EVT and ASC staff.

583
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:40,500
You do have a very qualified and competent city shop.

584
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:45,500
We also installed chemical detectors in February of 2017.

585
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,500
Picture of what those look like right there.

586
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:52,500
We've also distributed some electronic gas detectors in 2017.

587
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:57,500
We're continuing discussions with Ford's Texas representative and their engineering staff as well.

588
00:51:57,500 --> 00:52:01,500
The investigation in HTSA has not issued a recall.

589
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:06,500
Ford and HTSA right now are saying that the issues with carbon monoxide penetration

590
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:13,500
and the cabin has come from after market lights and sirens that have been put on to the cruiser.

591
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:23,500
We went and checked with the city's up fitter and our up fitter has not had any issues with either us or any of the other clients

592
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,500
and there are no known issues to exist in our fleet.

593
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:31,500
So our up fitter is different than the up fitter for the city boss and where they've had a lot of these problems.

594
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,500
Correct.

595
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:38,500
You're of the Ford explorers, the police interceptors are safe to operate.

596
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:40,500
We have not grounded in units.

597
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:46,500
There have been no reports and no detection of carbon dioxide in any of our units.

598
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:54,500
The like and like I said, the up fitters is certified for it has reviewed their methods and their competent with that.

599
00:52:54,500 --> 00:53:03,500
The fleet manager is going to continue some enhanced inspections of those just to kind of monitor them and keep them as the developed

600
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:08,500
developments may happen in other areas.

601
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:12,500
But with that we'll answer any questions about the fleet that you may have.

602
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:13,500
Well thank you very much.

603
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:16,500
I had actually asked for an update on this when it was ready.

604
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:22,500
There have been obviously numerous headlines about Austin's explorers and knowing that we had quite a few explorers.

605
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:31,500
I had asked obviously wanted to keep our officers and anyone they have had to be transporting in their safe.

606
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:41,500
So thank you very much for that and obviously keep us in the loop if you hear anything about recalls or anything.

607
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,500
Thanks for the report.

608
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:44,500
Thank you.

609
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:45,500
Call consent.

610
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:47,500
We're so into Councilor roll 2.3.

611
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:52,500
The city council can sit agenda consist of agenda items DE and F.

612
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,500
I just did a little information on it.

613
00:53:55,500 --> 00:54:03,500
And make a motion to prove D1 through F4 as presented.

614
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,500
And F6 and F6 and F6 and so.

615
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:07,500
Yes.

616
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:08,500
I'm going to go off the road.

617
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:09,500
Eric.

618
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:10,500
Nice to meet you.

619
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:11,500
Nice to meet you.

620
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:12,500
Hi second.

621
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:13,500
Okay.

622
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:17,500
Motion in a second to approve the consent agenda less item F5.

623
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:18,500
Those in favor say aye.

624
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:21,500
I think I pose no motion carries F5 please.

625
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:23,500
Resolution authorizing.

626
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:32,500
Change over number one for the FY 16 advanced metering infrastructure system project.

627
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:36,500
I thought it was just a double hitter tonight.

628
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:42,500
I think my project that we just mentioned earlier is is is under budget is an FY 16 as I mentioned capital for a project.

629
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:44,500
We talked about the deployment already.

630
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:47,500
Project budget was 5.5 million dollars.

631
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:50,500
Contractors local corporation, which is DBA commetric.

632
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:56,500
The contract of work was 5.192 this this this item will authorize change order number one.

633
00:54:56,500 --> 00:55:00,500
Which will provide an adjustment to the quantities that were actually delivered in the field.

634
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:07,500
The change order requested is 86,079 that is to take advantage of some of the cost savings.

635
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:14,500
And to do non-residential units to inches and larger.

636
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:17,500
We have a question of proof of F5.

637
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:18,500
Second.

638
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:19,500
Second.

639
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:20,500
Who approve F5.

640
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:22,500
Those in favor say aye.

641
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:23,500
I pose no motion carries.

642
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,500
Thank you very much.

643
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,500
We will proceed with public hearings.

644
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:29,500
Item g1 please.

645
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:31,500
First reading of public hearing of an ordinance and many.

646
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:36,500
Missier part could of ordinances in relation to address network notes.

647
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:40,500
Good evening mayor and council.

648
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,500
Jill Hoffman assistant city attorney.

649
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:50,500
This legislative session the governor signed into law senate bill 1,04 related to the installation of network

650
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:52,500
nodes in municipal rights away.

651
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:56,500
The law goes into effect September 1st and so I'm going to.

652
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:58,500
Explain what network nodes are.

653
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:02,500
Discuss what the legislation does and then talk about.

654
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:07,500
What authority we have to retain some of the some of the controls in our rights away.

655
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:12,500
So first what is a network node.

656
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:16,500
It's the equipment that connects your cell phone to communications network.

657
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:22,500
We're used to distribute it in tennis systems which are on the big towers and.

658
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:24,500
Those normally provide.

659
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:29,500
I'm sorry service multiple providers and provide larger ranges.

660
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:31,500
By contrast the.

661
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:39,500
That work now is usually operate in serve only one provider and so provide a shorter range and are generally more abundant.

662
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:46,500
And are placed strategically to add capacity and improve reception.

663
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:52,500
Here's an example of what they can look like.

664
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:53,500
So what is the legislation do?

665
00:56:53,500 --> 00:57:00,500
Senate bill 1,04 creates local government code chapter 284 which severely restricts a city's authority.

666
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:09,500
Overage rights of way it mandates near unlimited access to our rights of way for the installation of network nodes for a nominal fee.

667
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:18,500
It also includes a maximum height of 55 feet for the node support poles on which the network nodes are placed.

668
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:27,500
And to give you some perspective that our street light poles are 25 feet so it's more than double the height of that.

669
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,500
Chapter 284 I'm sorry.

670
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:30,500
Yeah.

671
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:35,500
Chapter 284 also mandates access to city poles to our city poles with a license agreement.

672
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:39,500
So 284 defines service poles.

673
00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:46,500
To be our traffic signal city traffic signals street signs and then non decorative street lights.

674
00:57:46,500 --> 00:57:54,500
So these network nodes can be placed on our facilities.

675
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:56,500
So what can the city do?

676
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:59,500
We can require a permit and assess statutory fees.

677
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:07,500
We can provide general installation requirements through a design manual and prohibit interference with city infrastructure.

678
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:11,500
We can limit the number of network nodes per pole.

679
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:18,500
And what's proposed in the documents before you tonight is a limit of one network node per pole.

680
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:24,500
We can also require a undergrounding of a utility line serving the network nodes.

681
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:30,500
And to comply with our undergrounding requirements for other all utility lines.

682
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:38,500
And then we can also design design districts to require concealment of network nodes on the poles on street lights.

683
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:41,500
And I'm going to get into that more in a minute.

684
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:47,500
And then also we can implement minimum spacing restrictions between the node support poles throughout the city.

685
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:50,500
So the design districts.

686
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:58,500
We can require camouflaging of the network nodes on decorative poles and design districts.

687
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:07,500
So in the proposed amendments before you tonight we have defined decorative poles to be all light poles and design districts.

688
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:16,500
And then we have designated the design districts to be all the zoning districts in the city, including the adjacent right away.

689
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:32,500
So that means is that any node place on our street lights has to be camouflaged to look something like this.

690
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:39,500
Spacing between node support poles that's another way to have some control of location of these.

691
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:54,500
We have implied authority to include minimum spacing between the node support poles and staff has proposed for different options to give you some perspective of what different spacing requirements do to the number of node support poles in the city.

692
00:59:54,500 --> 01:00:00,500
So if we were to place a 300 foot spacing restriction between node support.

693
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:16,000
About 1100 polls in the city. If we did 900 feet, it yield about 236, 1500 feet, 183 polls, and then 3,000 feet would yield 42 polls in the city.

694
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:23,000
To give you some more perspective, we've created some maps to show you the effect of each of those facing requirements.

695
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:35,000
So the first is the 300 feet intervals. And this is measuring radius, not straight line, along the string.

696
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:44,000
So this is 300 feet that shows about 1100 in the city. 900 feet, 1500 feet.

697
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:57,000
And then finally, the 3000 feet that yields about 42 notes of port poles in the city. And this is what is proposed in the ordinance amendments tonight.

698
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:12,000
So for consideration tonight, there are six items. The first is the amendment to right-of-weight ordinance, article 6003, and the fee schedule to require the permits to install network nodes,

699
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,000
assess application fee and rental fees into require compliance with the design manual.

700
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:27,000
Second, there's an amendment to the end-of-grounding requirements to strengthen our existing ordinance that requires under-grounding for all utilities.

701
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:34,000
And what that does is strengthen and clarify who and under what circumstances utilities must be under-grounded.

702
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:53,000
Third, there's an amendment to the lighting ordinance, which is an article 1408 of our code, and that defines decorative poles in requires all the decorative poles in all design districts, and specifies which zoning districts are the design districts.

703
01:01:53,000 --> 01:02:04,000
And as I mentioned earlier, currently proposed that the design districts includes all zoning districts, and they adjacent right away.

704
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:17,000
Fourth, there's a minor amendment to the wireless telecommunications facility ordinance to clarify that these network nodes are governed by article 1603 and not chapter 14.

705
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:33,000
And then fifth, there's the adoption of the design manual that includes insulation requirements, and includes the 33,000-foot spacing requirement, and then also limits a number of network nodes to one purple, and then finally authorization.

706
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:41,000
The city manager to execute license agreements for use of our service poles, I realize that was a lot, and so I'm here to answer questions.

707
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:46,000
That's one of those things like who knew six changes for this.

708
01:02:47,000 --> 01:03:01,000
These are communications, I guess these are like repeaters or something or take care of areas where there's not, where there signals are weak or something, is that the reason why they would be doing this.

709
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:15,000
I think that's one reason, I think it's to close in areas where there may be gaps existing gaps, but I think there's also not the extra on this, but I think there's new technology coming out where these small cell network nodes,

710
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:25,000
are necessary for the new technology, or at least extremely helpful in using promoting the new technology.

711
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:35,000
Would it be a one company, first one, it hits hits, gets the nodes, and then everybody else is, you know, a lot for.

712
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:43,000
I think it would be first come first serve, and I do want to remind you that this is just within our city rights of way.

713
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:50,000
All of these companies still have access to any private property that is willing to lease property to them.

714
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:58,000
So yes, I think it would be a first come first as far as limitation on our spacing requirements.

715
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:07,000
They would limit the number of network nodes in our city, it would be at a first come first serve basis.

716
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Are you anticipating any sort of challenge to the 3000 foot spacing?

717
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:23,000
This legislation goes into effect September 1st, I think all cities don't really know what to expect.

718
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:30,000
And so I can't say that we would be expecting anything at this point.

719
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:36,000
If we're not the first city in the state to actually implement this ordinance, we're among the first.

720
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,000
Okay.

721
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:42,000
This was just handed to us by the 80th legislature, and as Jill mentioned, it goes effective symptoms.

722
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,000
Okay.

723
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,000
Thank you.

724
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,000
This is a public hearing.

725
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,000
Would anyone like to address the council on item G1?

726
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,000
See, then we'll close the public hearing and call item G2.

727
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:09,000
A first reading public hearing of an ordinance calling an ordering a special call of election to be held on November 7th, 2017, for the purpose of amending the city title.

728
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,000
Mayor Council if I could speak to that item.

729
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:21,000
And your packet as directed, I've provided for you 22 propositions regarding proposed charter amendments within ordinance calling the selection for November this year.

730
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:27,000
That list contains the priority one items as directed by the council with a few revisions.

731
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,000
First off, the revision to disqualify vacancy appointees from the next election.

732
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:42,000
Also the addition of the gender neutrality proposition and removal of the requirement to retain the voter registration list in the city secretary's offices.

733
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,000
That's a requirement of the county per state law.

734
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,000
That was moved from a priority one down to a priority two.

735
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:52,000
There are two alternatives with respect in the November election date for the council to consider.

736
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,000
And I would also ask you to consider the resigned of run provision.

737
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:05,000
As proposed, it would require a resignation by a council member for any office other than the city council, including the mayor's position.

738
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:11,000
I do have concerns, I understand that the policy behind where the committee landed.

739
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,000
However, if you allow a sitting council member to run for the mayor's seat.

740
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,000
If it's the same election cycle, you could create what might be construed as an unlevel playing field.

741
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,000
And you could have a sitting council member holding onto their seat while also running for the mayor's seat.

742
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,000
And I don't know that the council, I don't know that the city would like to have that policy in place.

743
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,000
So that being said, I'll leave these items for your consideration.

744
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,000
There's any questions that we had to speak to.

745
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,000
I had to resign the run.

746
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,000
Go ahead and open the public hearing.

747
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,000
I have one card, Mr. Walls.

748
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
Thank you, Mayor and council.

749
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:06,000
I believe that it is alternate one regarding November elections.

750
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:13,000
I just like to say that I believe that the may elections give the citizens the ability to carefully evaluate the city council races.

751
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:19,000
November election would have state elections, federal elections at the same time.

752
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,000
I don't believe we'd get a citizenship that is looking at the city elections as closely as they do in May.

753
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,000
I also think that setting, they're what I find it stand correctly.

754
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:38,000
This would allow if this were to be on a ballot and pass, it would extend by several months.

755
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:45,000
Citizens voted you guys to be out of office in May or to be up for election in May, not next November.

756
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,000
So I believe that's a pretty clear conflict.

757
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:54,000
I'd like to continue supporting the may elections, although there are good arguments that could change.

758
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Thank you.

759
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,000
Thank you.

760
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Thank you.

761
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,000
That's the only card that I have here.

762
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:07,000
So we'll go ahead and close the public hearing and throw it open to any discussion.

763
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,000
And again, this is first reading.

764
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,000
I think we're, I know I'm still personally gathering some information on some things.

765
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,000
I do have one question for J.P.

766
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:25,000
Are we going to be voting on each of these propositions independently to go on the ballot?

767
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,000
And then the ballot is a whole, or how is that going to work?

768
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,000
We can do it however you want, actually.

769
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,000
But that that is up to the council's description.

770
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:43,000
The council, each of the council members would be entitled to make a motion to adopt all or none or all anywhere

771
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,000
between the two on the spectrum.

772
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,000
Yeah, I don't think anyone would make an all or none proposition.

773
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
But you could, but I might fail.

774
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,000
So we're at my pass.

775
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,000
But that'll be, that'll be up to our discussion.

776
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,000
All right.

777
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:03,000
One thing I did see today I saw a newspaper story in Brian, I guess, is whether they're doing a toy election.

778
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:08,000
And I guess the way the propositions were awarded, it's caused a big star.

779
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:14,000
So the residents are confused as to what they would do.

780
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:19,000
And so they're, I guess I'll start to park some of them or not clear as to what they do.

781
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,000
And I will admit a couple of these, I feel like I was, I can't even find out exactly what they did.

782
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,000
What are those?

783
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,000
But just, I saw that argument there.

784
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,000
This is how skilled Mr. Van Arsdale is.

785
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,000
He actually has piped in applause when he sees.

786
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,000
Press it.

787
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,000
That's a, that's a level I have.

788
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,000
I think it was for Heather.

789
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:43,000
It was just like, I'll remind everyone to please sign on cell phones.

790
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
Although I don't think that was a cell phone.

791
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,000
Any other comments?

792
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,000
All right.

793
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,000
Let's move on to item G3.

794
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
A first reading public hearing of an ordinance,

795
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Collion ordering a second special call to election to be held in November.

796
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:04,000
For the purpose of re-depracting one eighth of one cent from either the type A or the type B cell's tax fund.

797
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,000
To the city of Ciro Park.

798
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Municipal general fund for short-mired drainage and street facility improvements.

799
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,000
Operations and meetings.

800
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,000
Good evening, Mayor.

801
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,000
Council.

802
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,000
This item is a public hearing on a possible election that would re-allocate a portion of the cell's tax

803
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,000
to move the type A or type B co-operation fund, drainage and street improvements.

804
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:31,000
Before we get into this, the financial details, which the finance department is going to present.

805
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,000
I'd like to give you a little background on how we got here.

806
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:40,000
In spring of 2016, we hired a consultant to do a comprehensive study.

807
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:49,000
The issues and needs and funding options for drainage and street improvements in Cedar Park.

808
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,000
We also, I'm sorry, I'm back up.

809
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,000
The drainage use are divided into four categories.

810
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:00,000
Infrastructure maintenance, regulatory compliance, and program management.

811
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:05,000
We also looked at five funding categories of funding options.

812
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:12,000
A drainage utility fee, special districts, municipal funding like general fund, CIOs, GIOs, etc.

813
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:17,000
We looked at a sales tax relocation, which is what's being proposed tonight.

814
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,000
And we also looked at grants.

815
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:27,000
This table shows breakdown of the issues and needs that we studied over the last 18 months.

816
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:33,000
The cost of the cost and services that could be provided with this sales tax relocation,

817
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:39,000
and some of the services already being provided by payment out of our general fund.

818
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:44,000
The infrastructure projects, the first column on your left.

819
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Those are the larger projects designed to reduce or eliminate flooding, major flooding around the city.

820
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:57,000
Those types of projects include major channel improvements, neighborhood drainage projects,

821
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,000
and the street repairs that go along with those.

822
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Street, various street rehabilitation and easemack position.

823
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,000
Let's see where I'm right here.

824
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Oh, I know.

825
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,000
Sorry, I've lost my notes.

826
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:26,000
So during the study on the infrastructure infrastructure, we identified 19 projects in seven areas around town.

827
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,000
And we did cost estimates on those.

828
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,000
And those cost estimates total about $38 million.

829
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:40,000
One thing I would point out is that of that $38 million, about 40% of that is street repairs associated with the drainage projects.

830
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,000
Because whenever you build a drainage project next to the street, it damages the street.

831
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,000
And that's why we are calling this item drainage in street.

832
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:59,000
I will also add, because the intent is, if this passes, if y'all call an election and the voters pass it, and the money gets allocated,

833
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:05,000
someday as we start working through our drainage projects, we could use some of the money for miscellaneous street repairs.

834
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Because I don't want people to think we're going to use the money for street construction.

835
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,000
It's initially for repairing the street with the drainage.

836
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,000
However, someday it could be used for street purposes, street maintenance purposes.

837
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,000
Next, maintenance.

838
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,000
Maintenance is one of the most important things we do.

839
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:34,000
It keeps the pipes and the creeks and the channels free from debris and trees and everything that clogs them up so they can carry the water.

840
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,000
Without it, you got a lot of problems.

841
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:51,000
The good news is, over the last two budget cycles the city council has approved about $400,000 annually to pay for five full-time employees in equipment to start a maintenance department.

842
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Now, while I won't say that that's all we'll need in the future, it's a great start or already catching up.

843
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:05,000
There's a list of all this stuff we do there, but basically they keep all the pipes and the creeks free of debris.

844
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Plus, street sweeping up, I think everybody sees the street sweepers we have.

845
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,000
The next one is the regulatory compliance.

846
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:22,000
This is really the state and federal permits that are promulgated or issued by the TCEQ.

847
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:29,000
We have what's called a stormwater permit and it's very restrictive.

848
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:38,000
It's got a lot of requirements on us and thankfully council approved money this summer for what we call a stormwater coordinator.

849
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:43,000
So that program is being funded and we're making really good progress.

850
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Lastly is program management.

851
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Program management is really the glue that holds all these activities together.

852
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,000
Most cities have a dedicated drains department.

853
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,000
See the park is not, never has, and our proposal under this.

854
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,820
This program is, if this goes through, is to, is to create this department and have a fully dedicated

855
01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:12,020
drainage department. It would start off with one program manager and a project engineer. The program

856
01:15:12,020 --> 01:15:18,300
manager or department had would manage all the maintenance people, it managed the, the engineer,

857
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:23,300
and it managed the stormwater coordinator. And that person will be pretty much in charge of all the

858
01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:28,300
drainage stuff. The engineer will administer all the infrastructure projects. Higher the

859
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:33,300
engineers do the best, do the plans, do the construction. Also, they would do grant projects.

860
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:38,300
We're going to get, you know, get even more aggressive with grants. So anyway, that's,

861
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:43,300
that's kind of an overview of the programs that could be provided with this, with this money.

862
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:51,300
And lastly, I'll touch on the funding analysis. So in the beginning, we pursued what,

863
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:57,300
what's called a drainage utility fee. And this is probably the most commonly used funding mechanism in the state.

864
01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:04,300
Many, many cities use it, but it's not, but it does, it does have its detractors.

865
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:12,300
And we spent about six months with a heavy outreach on that to, to very large open houses.

866
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:18,300
We had a, we had a web survey that was up for two months and a pretty nice,

867
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:26,300
micro site. Anyway, the overall consensus was that the citizens of the city park will do not want that.

868
01:16:26,300 --> 01:16:32,300
So we kept looking. Special districts, we looked at those special districts, what they do is they allocate the money,

869
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:40,300
they allocate the costs to neighborhoods. And what it was, what it was, the neighborhoods that are getting the drainage improvements.

870
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:47,300
And what happens there, it can be a real financial burden on the homeowners because they end up paying for more of the costs.

871
01:16:47,300 --> 01:16:52,300
So we didn't look too too much further with that. General fund, we're using that.

872
01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:56,300
That's what we're using to pay for the maintenance in the regulatory compliance.

873
01:16:56,300 --> 01:17:00,300
FEMA grants, we've already started using those, we've got one, this last Christmas.

874
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:02,300
And that's already been employed.

875
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:10,300
Lastly is the, the sales tax reallocation from 4A or 4B that that's being before you tonight.

876
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:12,300
So.

877
01:17:12,300 --> 01:17:15,300
Oops, I don't want to go into finance and stuff.

878
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:21,300
And with that, I think I'm going to turn it over to finance because I think they're going to provide a little more information about that.

879
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:23,300
And let's, unless you'll have any questions.

880
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:27,300
I do have a couple questions for you before you go sit down.

881
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:33,300
So where are we in the prioritizing process at this point for the different neighborhoods?

882
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:36,300
We're pretty far along. We still got some work to do.

883
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:39,300
You know, FEMA's released some new proposed maps.

884
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:45,300
And so we've had to go back and reanalyze quite a few of the projects because it's changed those.

885
01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:50,300
And also, we've, we're still working on is the short answer.

886
01:17:50,300 --> 01:17:54,300
What's, what's your current timeline, do you think?

887
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:55,300
To complete it?

888
01:17:55,300 --> 01:17:59,300
Well, to, like, yeah, I, to get started on the project.

889
01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:09,300
Do you, do you have any sense of like, how long it's going to be before you complete your prioritization when you can start doing the work?

890
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:13,300
Or do you have to get through engineering first after prioritization?

891
01:18:13,300 --> 01:18:16,300
Well, you know, the projects, I mean, to do a project, you have to,

892
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:20,300
to hire, do RFQs, consultants, design.

893
01:18:20,300 --> 01:18:25,300
I mean, it, it takes six to eight to nine months to get a project ready to go to bed.

894
01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:26,300
Okay.

895
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:30,300
I mean, we still have, we still have some more work to do on the prioritization.

896
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:35,300
And, and so yeah, we still got a little more work to do.

897
01:18:35,300 --> 01:18:36,300
Okay.

898
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:40,300
So a couple more months before we do the, getting ready to go.

899
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:45,300
Yeah, we could probably have the prioritization to Council of, I would say, for a draft in a couple months.

900
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:48,300
Okay.

901
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:49,300
All right.

902
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:54,300
And that's, yeah, that's all I got for you.

903
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:55,300
All right.

904
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:58,300
Well, good evening, Mayor and Council on Chad Tustison, assistant finance director.

905
01:18:58,300 --> 01:19:02,300
I'm going to briefly walk through the mechanism of the one eighth cent.

906
01:19:02,300 --> 01:19:09,300
Currently, the city collects two cents of sales tax that are split between one cent to the general fund.

907
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:14,300
A half cent to the type A and half cent to type B.

908
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:26,300
With this change, one eighth cent would come off in this scenario redirecting from the for a fund, one eighth cent would come off that portion.

909
01:19:26,300 --> 01:19:34,300
And three, eight would remain with the for a fund to continue to fund economic development projects.

910
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:43,300
If approved, the sales tax collections would begin for that drainage portion on April 1st, 2018.

911
01:19:43,300 --> 01:19:52,300
There's a lot of numbers here, but just to summarize, this is what the for a fund would look like with the re-direction of the one eighth cent.

912
01:19:52,300 --> 01:19:56,300
Since it begins in April 1, that would be six months through the fiscal year.

913
01:19:56,300 --> 01:20:04,300
So you can see in the FY 2018 proposed budget, it would redirect about half of what we would anticipate, 845,000.

914
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:09,300
Looking at the impact in 20, beginning in fiscal year 2019.

915
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:16,300
Once the minimum reserve policy or the reserve level is set in column C, row 11.

916
01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:28,300
It leaves the fund balance in that fund of $4 million and allows the gives the fund about $6.6 million and available balance for new projects.

917
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:38,300
If the corporation were to the fund were to spend that amount, it would have about 1.5 million in 2020 and 1.8 million.

918
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:43,300
In fiscal year 2021.

919
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:48,300
The other option is for you is redirecting the for a B portion of the sales tax.

920
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:56,300
This would work in a similar manner to for a and that one eighth cent would come off and leave three eighths of the cent for community development projects.

921
01:20:56,300 --> 01:21:03,300
If approved, the sales tax collections again would begin April 1st next year.

922
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:12,300
This is also, this is shows the fund for the for the for the for B fund if the redirection were to occur.

923
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:18,300
So looking in fiscal year 2019, we have a full year of sales tax redirected.

924
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:25,300
Once that minimum reserve policy is set in row 13 column C.

925
01:21:25,300 --> 01:21:34,300
That would leave for the fund in 2019 a projected $930,000 in available balance for new projects.

926
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:49,300
If the entirety of that amount was spent there would be $4.6 million in 2020 and 5.8 million in fiscal year 2021.

927
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:53,300
And I'm available for any questions and this is a public hearing.

928
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:56,300
I have a couple of questions.

929
01:21:56,300 --> 01:22:08,300
Do we already have money in the the budget planned for any of this for the drainage or is this all going to have to come out of this either eighth cent or a bond election or both.

930
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:10,300
So currently the way the proposed budget is done.

931
01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:13,300
It does not assume that.

932
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:19,300
And you have these numbers currently in the proposed budget now if.

933
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:28,300
If the item was approved if voters approved it, then we would come back and potentially do a budget amendment, but as you can see even.

934
01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:38,300
For example, with for B, there's funding available even if this were passed in in November, it would go into effect April.

935
01:22:38,300 --> 01:22:54,300
The redirect $845,000 from the sales tax and after meeting the minimum reserve there'd be about $3 million in in excuse me.

936
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:57,300
A balance of $2.2 million in the fund.

937
01:22:57,300 --> 01:23:03,300
This is not sure which of you is going to be able to answer this one better.

938
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:19,300
Any sense and when we have to have this bond election in order to be able to get started on the drainage projects without too much delay or stalling on our part.

939
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:25,300
I guess that depends on what your goal is.

940
01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:35,300
We still have some money remaining in our consulting contracts, so if you all decided to hold off we could do some projects between now and some other time.

941
01:23:35,300 --> 01:23:40,300
If you waited a year or so, yeah, that would probably be pretty big delay.

942
01:23:40,300 --> 01:23:47,300
But if you waited till May we've got some money we could work on planning and engineering stuff.

943
01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:53,300
But you know, other than that, I mean the sooner the better for the infrastructure project.

944
01:23:53,300 --> 01:24:04,300
We're not talking about a bond here, this meeting is about the reallocation of 8th of a penny, either coming out or 4A or 4B towards collecting.

945
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:08,300
Yeah, it creates potential bonding capacity, but we're not talking about it.

946
01:24:08,300 --> 01:24:15,300
This is, this item is purely about the idea of ordering the special election to redirect.

947
01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:22,300
Correct, but my question is, I mean we're reallocating the money with the intent of then calling a bond election.

948
01:24:22,300 --> 01:24:27,300
I'm wondering how soon we need to have that bond money for them to not be stalled.

949
01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:33,300
I don't know that that's actually been totally decided because there were some members of the council that were more interested in a pay-go method.

950
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:42,300
I think that once this passes then, if this passes, if this passes us and then it passes the residents, then the council will meet

951
01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:49,300
After the November election to determine the policy on how the funds will be allocated and distributed.

952
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:56,300
I just want to make sure that they're going to have enough money to move forward on stuff, at least initially until we can get.

953
01:24:56,300 --> 01:25:02,300
I'll put it this way if this passes the November then I would anticipate we'll have a meeting about this in very early December.

954
01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:10,300
And if not, we'll be having a meeting about looking for alternative opportunities in this.

955
01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:16,300
But there is still engineering money available. That's what I was hoping to do.

956
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:24,300
Yes, I thought I saw the earlier day where the end or the school districts thinking about having a half billion dollar bond election.

957
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:30,300
I think this November, do we know whether they're doing that or not doing that?

958
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:38,300
I don't believe they would call that yet.

959
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:41,300
So, they're on the same time table.

960
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:49,300
Yeah, I'll just 21st being the final day to call.

961
01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:54,300
Has four A or four B, are they like?

962
01:25:54,300 --> 01:26:02,300
And they, I don't know, adopted resolutions, supporting this or are they entertained it, looked at it and how it affected me.

963
01:26:02,300 --> 01:26:07,300
Yeah, we presented this to them on Tuesday at their budget consideration meeting.

964
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:09,300
For four B, excuse me here.

965
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:12,300
What was the feedbacker?

966
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:17,300
There were some outstanding questions that they wanted to ask.

967
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:38,300
We weren't any questions to ask, but some additional questions that some of the board members wanted to have answered and wanted to answer those questions when we have those questions available answered.

968
01:26:38,300 --> 01:26:42,300
Right, this is a public hearing.

969
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:50,300
Ms. Ryan Wood has registered no position just available as a resource witness if needed.

970
01:26:50,300 --> 01:27:01,300
Mr. Smith.

971
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:08,300
I could even counsel and mayor. I'm a Scott Smith. I love it. 3,780 lane.

972
01:27:08,300 --> 01:27:17,300
Shortly after I bought my house and moved to Ranch of Brushy Creek in the world if floods of 2015, I had a lake in my backyard.

973
01:27:17,300 --> 01:27:29,300
And I was planning my wife and I were planning to put a pool in, so I know the drainage issues that people suffer and I have a very small issue and mitigate that very quickly.

974
01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:39,300
Frankly, I think that I'm frankly appalled that we would go down this with the four B board as an even at time to really look at this.

975
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:49,300
I was at the four B board meeting on Tuesday and they seemed totally surprised that essentially one eighth asset was going to go on.

976
01:27:49,300 --> 01:28:01,300
The community that board has provided a lot of benefit to take away from economic development is kind of shooting off my pen.

977
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:08,300
And I'm really going to put, I think, the residents against each other.

978
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:13,300
There are seven retention ponds that my HOA owns.

979
01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:22,300
We spend over $25,000 a year maintaining those retention ponds. We have future liabilities to clean out those rich admissions ponds.

980
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:34,300
For the, you know, the developer did now the goodness this heart did that drainage work and so the areas that did not have it as a city, you know, did not have the regulations.

981
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:39,300
I don't know why we don't go look at the district or look at a bond election.

982
01:28:39,300 --> 01:28:45,300
You know, what is the future going to be when this $40 million is paid off or we always going to have this one eighth going there.

983
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:56,300
I think it needs to go back and really think about where we are as a city and where, you know, I was very opposed to the utility field.

984
01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:58,300
The fee.

985
01:28:58,300 --> 01:29:00,300
I think we can do better.

986
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:02,300
Thank you.

987
01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:11,300
Mr. Hutchins has registered for the item does not wish to speak using sales tax for drainage and street improvements.

988
01:29:11,300 --> 01:29:16,300
We'll lessen the burden on property owners, but not raising property taxes or implementing utility fees.

989
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:19,300
Thank you Mr. Hutchins.

990
01:29:19,300 --> 01:29:25,300
All right. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing and call up items before.

991
01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:37,300
I first heard you public hearing of an ordinance calling an ordering a another special call election for November of 2017, but it was for redirecting one eighth of one cent from either type A or Type B.

992
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:40,300
And also I'm a tiniestly coal item each one as well.

993
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:41,300
Okay.

994
01:29:41,300 --> 01:29:48,300
To to be used to reduce property taxes in addition to the discussion of a level from state exemption.

995
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:55,300
This is simply somewhat similar to the prior item in that is redirecting one eighth cent.

996
01:29:55,300 --> 01:30:00,300
This is for property tax rate of reduction.

997
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,000
Again, the total local sales tax rate cannot exceed two cents, and you can see the split, the current split between the two cents.

998
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:19,000
And in this looking at two different scenarios, redirecting an eighth cent from 4A sales tax, from leave 3-8s for economic development projects.

999
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:25,000
So, if past sales tax collections, in this case, would begin October 1, 2018.

1000
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:36,000
Looking at the 4A fund beginning in fiscal year 2019, that's when this would, the sales tax rate or redirection would happen.

1001
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:40,000
This leaves once in the minimum reserve policy as set.

1002
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:45,000
This leaves in 2019 about $7.4 million in available balance for new projects.

1003
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:54,000
If that amount is spent, then there'd be another $1.5 million in fiscal year 2020, and $1.76 in 2021.

1004
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,000
We've done our assumptions.

1005
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:06,000
Looking at the 4B scenario in redirecting one-eight cent for property tax rate reduction.

1006
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:12,000
In a similar fashion to 4A, this would leave 3-8 cents available for community development type projects.

1007
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:17,000
And again, if past, this would take effect, October 1, next year.

1008
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:23,000
The 4B fund can see the impact to the fund.

1009
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:36,000
Once the minimum reserve policy is met in fiscal year 2019, of $1.36 million, this would leave available to the fund about $1.8 million in fiscal year 2019.

1010
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:47,000
If that entire amount was spent, $4.6 million in fiscal year 2020, and $5.88 million in fiscal year 2021.

1011
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:58,000
There's also some discussion at the retreat to look at home state exemptions, as well as the impact of the sales tax.

1012
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:08,000
Redirection to property tax rate reduction on residential versus non-residential.

1013
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,000
Any American Council on Kent Merit, the Finance Director?

1014
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,000
I like Chad said there were a couple of questions.

1015
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:25,000
You asked us to come back and talk with you about the home state exemption opportunity, as well as the impact on residents versus non-residents of the sales tax reduction.

1016
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,000
Okay, looking at the first time I talked to you about the home state exemption.

1017
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:35,000
Now, the home state exemption would be a local option that would be available to the Cedar Park residents.

1018
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:42,000
The tax code section 11, 13 allows for a local optional home state exemption.

1019
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:49,000
The minimum exemption would be $5,000 to a maximum of 20% of the assess value.

1020
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:54,000
The exemption removes a part of the home's value from taxation.

1021
01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:07,000
An example would be a $100,000 home with a $5,000 exemption that assess value would be reduced from $100,000 to $95,000 for tax purposes.

1022
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,000
Now, only the home owners principle resident would qualify.

1023
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:22,000
A resident, according to the code, is defined as a separate structure, condominium, a manufactured home, and up to 20 acres of property.

1024
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:26,000
Now, Cedar Park currently has a couple of local options.

1025
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:35,000
One is the over 65, $30,000 exemption, as well as a $20,000 disability exemption.

1026
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:42,000
There are other exemptions that are on a Cedar Park residents tax bill.

1027
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:47,000
Those include school districts, each school district and Cedar Park has a $25,000 exemption.

1028
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:51,000
Austin Community College has a $5,000 exemption.

1029
01:33:51,000 --> 01:34:04,000
Upper Brushy Creek has a $10,000 exemption, and there are a number of other county, age, and disability related, as well as veterans related exemptions available to Cedar Park residents.

1030
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,000
So that's everything I have to discuss with you about the home set exemptions.

1031
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:15,000
If you want us to go back and look at this some more, come back with some additional details for you.

1032
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,000
We would be very happy to do so.

1033
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:27,000
Now, the second issue that she asked us to come and talk to you about tonight was the impact of a tax rate.

1034
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:35,000
What would be the impacts of the sales tax redirection to residents versus non-resident Cedar Park?

1035
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:47,000
Now, the important aspect of the sales tax redirection is that it would be used to lower the tax rate, which means that it's not specific to any type of property.

1036
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:51,000
It doesn't matter about the residency of the property owner.

1037
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:58,000
It's strictly, the savings would strictly be based on the value of the property.

1038
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,000
I'm going to walk through two different examples for you.

1039
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:07,000
One is a residential property, and the other one I'm going to talk to you about is a commercial industrial type property.

1040
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:12,000
And I'm going to show you how the differences are really not relevant.

1041
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:25,000
The first I want to talk to you about the residential property, the first two rows in this chart simply gets us to the third row, which is the average taxable value of a home in Cedar Park.

1042
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:32,000
Now, the current working rate that we're using the budget is 0.6.46 per $100 valuation.

1043
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:47,000
Now, the sales tax offset would reduce that 0.46 down to 0.4409, or a reduction of slightly over our slightly under two pennies, which is the 0.019.

1044
01:35:47,000 --> 01:36:01,000
So that's a reduction of just under two pennies that would reduce the taxes on this particular property from 1,411 down to 1,352, which is an annual savings of $58.54.

1045
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:18,000
Now, if we reduce that $36,637 piece of property down to a $100,000 property, the sales tax savings are the property tax savings in this case would be $19.10.

1046
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:23,000
Which is $19.10 per $100,000 valuation.

1047
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,000
So that's how a residential property would be computed.

1048
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:42,000
Now, looking at the same analysis for a commercial or industrial property, it's the same result with 830 commercial counts in the city of Cedar Park with a commercial taxable value of slightly just right at 1.4 billion.

1049
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:48,000
The average taxable value of a commercial piece of property is about 1.8 million.

1050
01:36:49,000 --> 01:37:07,000
So looking at the same analysis using the same methodology, dropping the tax rate from 0.46 cents down to 0.4409 per $100 valuation would result in about a $336.42 annual savings for this particular property.

1051
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:19,000
Which, taking that $1.8 million value down to a 100,000, the same thing that we did with the residential property, it comes out to $19 in 10 cents per $100,000.

1052
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:25,000
So it's the same exact result, whether it's commercial property or residential property.

1053
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:30,000
And it doesn't matter about the residency status of the individual owner.

1054
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,000
So that's everything I have for these two items.

1055
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:40,000
If you want us to come back with additional information or more analyses on this, I would be more unhappy to do that.

1056
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,000
This is a public hearing if you have any questions for me.

1057
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:52,000
I would, I'd just like to see how some of that translates into the city budget.

1058
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,000
You know, if we were, it seems like one of the fundamental questions comes down to you.

1059
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:04,000
You want to provide property tax rate relief to, you know, principal residences or to everybody across the board.

1060
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:17,000
And then second just to, you know, I think what I hear you saying is that there's not a ton of difference between the two options, but I don't know that you really got into that.

1061
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:25,000
Like I, I don't, I need better understanding about what the, what the, I'm asking this really badly.

1062
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,000
I'm sorry, the home situation is a new thing.

1063
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,000
All right, here we go.

1064
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:35,000
Based on the different levels of homes that exemption that the council might offer, what would be the financial impact of those.

1065
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,000
Certainly what the options would be.

1066
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,000
That's sorry guys, I had to find, find my way to my question there.

1067
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:46,000
We know, we know very specifically what it would be with the, with the eighth of a cent.

1068
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:53,000
What would it be, you know, in terms of savings, how much less would be collected with various options with that exemption?

1069
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,000
Sure.

1070
01:38:54,000 --> 01:39:00,000
If you wanted to offer 5,000 or 10,000 or 5% or if you could just show us what some of those might look like.

1071
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,000
What?

1072
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:15,000
Because like I remember that at the budget meeting last week, it was, the number was something in the nature of around 1.7 million right now that that would be 1.7 million per year to switch the eighth cent.

1073
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,000
Well, it was Chad had those charts up for you second to go.

1074
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:23,000
Yes, it's about 1,700,000 dollars per year that would come over to the general fund.

1075
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:30,000
It'd be interesting to see if you took that number and just, it did nothing but home set exemption.

1076
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:34,000
What kind of exemption that would be?

1077
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,000
Same same.

1078
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:36,000
Yes.

1079
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,000
I'd be cars the same cost.

1080
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,000
Yeah, I'd be curious to see that as well.

1081
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:47,000
Well, we have to be careful though, because the home set exemption reduces the revenue to the city, whereas the sales tax, the return of a cousin.

1082
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:48,000
Right.

1083
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:57,000
What we'd have to see is how much savings to the average homeowner there is at these different levels, 5, 10, 15, 20, whatever.

1084
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,000
And then how much is lost to the general fund?

1085
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,000
Right.

1086
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,000
And then the question becomes, what do we do to recoup that in the general fund?

1087
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,000
We can come back with some analyses, similar to that.

1088
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,000
Yes.

1089
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,000
I mean, this is basically two ways to come at potential property tax relief.

1090
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:15,000
One of them attacks the rate side and the other one attacks the valuation side, exactly.

1091
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:26,000
You know, I think that, you know, one, we've got to look at, do we want to fund property tax savings to property owners that live in California?

1092
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Or buying speculative property in our city?

1093
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:35,000
Or do you want to have direct impact on citizens' property, the, you know, their homes?

1094
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,000
And one can be treated by ordinance.

1095
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:41,000
And another can be treated, you know, has to go through a charter.

1096
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:42,000
Right.

1097
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:48,000
And so I would also point out, I'm really, I'm very undecided on this.

1098
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:53,000
So I'm not arguing it, but yes, there are some speculative Californians here.

1099
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,000
Maybe even some Canadians that have some property here.

1100
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:05,000
But there's also a lot of business owners that live locally that probably, you know, they've taken a chance on opening a business and see your park.

1101
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:10,000
And the idea of giving them some rate relief as well as not terribly offensive to me.

1102
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:17,000
But again, it's which side of the, which side of the equation do we want to attack and how we want to direct it?

1103
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:24,000
I think it will be a really good discussion, but additional numbers would I think help us have it a little more intentionally.

1104
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:29,000
A really big problem with taking an eighth of a sense out of the four B money.

1105
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:34,000
We're taking sales tax money away from everybody who's paid into that sales tax fund.

1106
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:40,000
And that four B fund goes to benefit every single person in the city, including renters.

1107
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:47,000
But we're only giving the relief back to home owners and it looks like largely businesses now.

1108
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,000
No, it would go to everybody.

1109
01:41:49,000 --> 01:42:00,000
But we're talking 58 dollars a year to home owners and hundreds of dollars a year to commercial.

1110
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,000
And other properties worth more.

1111
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,000
They've made a larger investment in the city.

1112
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:11,000
Obviously, but we're talking about trying to give property tax relief 58 dollars isn't it.

1113
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,000
It's just not it.

1114
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,000
Oh, I think it's just one piece of the puzzle.

1115
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:19,000
It's it's it's a step and it doesn't cost the budget anything is the reason why it's worth.

1116
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:23,000
It doesn't cost our city budget anything, but it costs four B's budget.

1117
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,000
Four B's still will have a wonderful fund balance.

1118
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:29,000
And they will have because I thought you wanted a tennis center.

1119
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,000
Where's that money coming?

1120
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,000
That's not the budget.

1121
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,000
We wanted to do economic development.

1122
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,000
We want to redevelop the quarry.

1123
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:41,000
We've already taken out $18 million of our four B fund for the Bell Boulevard redevelopment project.

1124
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:46,000
And it's going to be years and years before that return on investment or repayment.

1125
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:51,000
So you're talking about continuing to rob a fund that's supposed to be for community development.

1126
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,000
This is supposed to be for community projects.

1127
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:58,000
And you're going to give it just specifically to retail and commercial landowners.

1128
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,000
No, give it to every property owner in the city.

1129
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,000
It's not even a majority of them.

1130
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:08,000
How many homeowners really are going to care about $58 a month?

1131
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,000
I don't know.

1132
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:11,000
About $58 a year.

1133
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,000
We could put it on the we could put it on the ballot and ask them.

1134
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,000
I guess that's the idea of putting it on the ballot is they'll tell us whether they care or not.

1135
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:18,000
Yeah.

1136
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,000
I mean, that's that we're not deciding to do this.

1137
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,000
We're deciding if we want to ask the residents to do it.

1138
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,000
That's a fundamental difference.

1139
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,000
And the legislature's monkey with property taxes as we speak.

1140
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:32,000
You know, they're taking the bill on Saturday.

1141
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,000
And we're going to regulate the local governments.

1142
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:35,000
Good.

1143
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,000
Good.

1144
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,000
Good.

1145
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,000
On our rates and everything else.

1146
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,000
But every form of taxation we have if it's $58 here if it's $17.

1147
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:51,000
If it's $500 over here all of it is all of it is what the government is, you know,

1148
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:57,000
converting, you know, or it to use your parlance robbing to from people sitting.

1149
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:01,000
Well, you said, you said we would be robbing the for beef fund.

1150
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:07,000
Whereas it would be what it would be doing is returning some portion of the for beef fund into.

1151
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,000
Some people in our community, but not everyone who owns property.

1152
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,000
That's who it would be returning it to.

1153
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:18,000
There are more people in this community that pay into the sales tax and expect money back from that for beef fund.

1154
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,000
There's also a quality of life.

1155
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,000
There's also a lot of people who don't live in our city who pays sales taxes.

1156
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:28,000
So it's actually a way to redistribute some of their money to the property owners in the city.

1157
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:34,000
Yeah, actually, you know, the the citizens of this city when it comes to when it comes to all of the retail development.

1158
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:42,000
The citizens of this city have borne a lot of burden as infrastructure was built to support, you know, these retail now grant it.

1159
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,000
They've been asking for these projects, but.

1160
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:51,000
They've borne the burden to bring all of this here and to create a city where true other people are coming in from outside of our city to shop.

1161
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:57,000
Because they have borne the the sole the sole burden of getting it done.

1162
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,000
I do think that, you know, property owners.

1163
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,360
The city should have the sole benefit of a potential return. Again, there are different ways to get

1164
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:14,720
at this, but I'm reasonably certain if the average barren seat or park, if you said, do you really

1165
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:20,800
who do you think can spend $58 better, or your government? A good number of them are going to say

1166
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:27,920
that they can. It becomes a question through the whole picture of how much do we need. I think we

1167
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:34,560
may need a little less, because we can talk about it during the budget as well, but we've had tremendous

1168
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:41,120
financial success, our local economies extraordinarily healthy, and at some point, at some point,

1169
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:45,680
you can say, you know, and you know what, if there's a little bit of a short fall, then it comes

1170
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:51,120
down to a budgeting situation just like it does in every one of our homes. There's some things I'd like

1171
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,880
to buy that I can't afford today, and I'm going to save up form, and the city could do the same thing.

1172
01:45:54,960 --> 01:46:00,640
So what would be before being for me to think of the two boards today? The same answers, the drainage

1173
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:11,760
answer, about whether they've formally supported this proposal. The four be meeting on Tuesday,

1174
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:18,560
I'm not going to presume to speak for them, but it's definitely definite about when we're in other

1175
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:26,640
on. What about for A when it's for A? Remember, um, we from Monday, we had a joint meeting scheduled for

1176
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:36,000
the 17th actually, um, or their normal meeting is the 21st, but the 21st is the last data call.

1177
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:42,480
And also, I guess, the chamber on our Tony shares is the chamber taking a position on these or

1178
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:51,440
look at this. Yeah, okay. You guys intend to? I don't want to either, both.

1179
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:06,640
I mean, again, a lot of this may come down to philosophy on, you know, how much is this level of government

1180
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:13,600
need to, to take? And that'll be an ongoing discussion. Well, I do understand that as a homeowner,

1181
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:22,400
I would prefer $1.7 million to stay in the fund for a community project, then $58 per year in my pocket.

1182
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:28,480
And that, and so your vote would be no on a ballot done. Yes, it will. Well, in some of this is also,

1183
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:39,360
there's a lot of effects it seems to do in all these things. And I'm just not sure we know all of them yet.

1184
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:46,000
And so that's kind of, you know, all the commitments and projects and bond covenants and

1185
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:52,080
bond rating, you know, it's just just a lot of things to consider, because as once we go forward with this,

1186
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:57,360
it's kind of out of our, you know, it's sort of we're now impacting a lot of stuff. And I'm just

1187
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:04,720
personally not sure if we know all of that yet, but maybe we'll, maybe I'll feel more that way.

1188
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:11,360
I mean, one of the issues to look at is over the 17 or 18 years we've had four B, you know,

1189
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:17,680
two years ago, they had over a $12 million fund balance. I don't know that removing

1190
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:24,800
the $18 million on, which was handy and good. And useful. And if you look at a number, they'll be

1191
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:31,360
plenty of money over time. Because the fund replenishes itself. You have this replenished slower.

1192
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:37,760
A lot, you know, there's, I'm still trying to grasp this, there's a lot of moving parts here.

1193
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:43,280
No question. One of the things that I, a little bit of a concern, will be gone when I'm, you know,

1194
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:53,200
dollaring old man, maybe a year or two away with any way. The fact is, this money were pulling out

1195
01:48:53,200 --> 01:49:00,080
of 4A and 4B and any one of these things. It goes into the general fund. I mean, there is no way

1196
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:07,520
that we're able to actually say, and we can vote and make sure, you know, contract with the, you know,

1197
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,760
the citizens, they elected everything. But bottom line, it goes into the general fund. And it may well,

1198
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:18,800
long time down the road, be totally forgotten. Whereas, you know, I'm kind of a pierced, the homestead,

1199
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:25,040
is, while it can be changed by ordinance, it's, you know, it's fixed and it's known costs,

1200
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:30,960
you know, the impact of the city. And so, personally, I mean, at this moment,

1201
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:37,760
preserving the right to change my mind, maybe even minutes from now. I'd like to see us do

1202
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:45,200
one of the options, and having, having the math on the other option. I think we've got, again, I think we've

1203
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:51,040
got an opportunity with the dollars that we're pulling in to give some sort of, of, of, of relief to,

1204
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:57,760
some group of properties. And, you know, I'm open to suggestion what that might look like, and ultimately

1205
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:02,560
we'll, end of the well of the council. But, um, we also do that by setting a rate, setting a

1206
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,160
part of the tax rate. That's, that's, that way we do it. Now we're going to, we're going to work on that, too.

1207
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:11,840
There's no, I guess the question I have is, is the finance department have a recommendation of whether it's

1208
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:17,440
for a, for, for being money, I mean, given all the other moving parts that you're aware of, is there a

1209
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:25,360
preference, is there a recommendation? Yeah, I think we've considered this a policy decision for the council,

1210
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:32,880
as we were trying to present you the fiscal, and, and that part of it, but, uh, ultimately, where that

1211
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:41,440
goes, and by also looking at whatever obligations, uh, are assumed by those corporations. And so,

1212
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:47,280
I'm not sure that we have a recommendation, but we want to present those pieces of information for council

1213
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:53,840
consideration. But, I mean, we've, we've, we've got two very similar possibilities here. You know,

1214
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:59,200
one puts it in, one comes from either four A or four B, and goes toward funding, you know,

1215
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:06,560
swarm water, drainageants, and street facility improvements. Um, the other one takes from the other fund,

1216
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:12,880
and just keeps it in the pocket of property owners. So, uh, but it goes into the general fund. It doesn't

1217
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:16,960
necessarily. Well, but it lowers your rates, so we're collecting less from you. That's, that's the idea.

1218
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,960
I mean, round rocks have been doing it for years, and then Georgetown, Georgetown, it also does it

1219
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:25,920
at, I believe, to reach lower than ours. That's significantly lower than ours. I don't know, we can,

1220
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:31,680
we can talk about that tonight. Yeah. Anyway, um, again, lots of moving parts, um, any other

1221
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:39,360
comment, we still haven't held the public hearing. We've held our own little hearing. All right, I'll, uh,

1222
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:49,200
open the public hearing, um, uh, Mr. Smith, you have cards in on both items. So, I'll let you

1223
01:51:50,000 --> 01:52:03,040
discuss on both. Um, one of the challenges I think that I struggle with in Texas, being here over 11 years

1224
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,360
and coming from states that didn't have as, as, as, a dependent on property tax,

1225
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,920
is I think the one of the things that the legislature, when I talk to my legislators, our legislators,

1226
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:19,520
is that we never look at the value of what's the average home year to year. And that's the really

1227
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:24,560
struggle is that, and that's where I think the legislature gives us the ability to do the opposite

1228
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:32,080
exemption. And I think that sadly, a lot of taxing municipalities, um, entities do not use that.

1229
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:38,720
And I feel tonight to speak up on the ones who can't speak to themselves or the disabled

1230
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:47,120
and the elderly, you know, on a fixed income that basically bought their house into your park when it was

1231
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:53,280
reasonable to live here, and they're going to be priced out of their home. And that's, I may be priced

1232
01:52:53,280 --> 01:53:00,880
out of my home. I mean, I may decide as, as an economics, I'm a very person of the free market system,

1233
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:05,680
if someone wants to pay $500,000 for my house, and I bought it for $300,000 through years ago,

1234
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:11,760
it might be a good investment to walk away. But, you know, I also have to look at, you know, what's

1235
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:16,560
the upcut, keeping the cost. And one of the things I struggle is that, you know, and I,

1236
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:23,520
why is the growth not paying for everything? As I jokingly say, they're not building $150,000 homes like

1237
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:31,840
the word in 2004. You know, a higher neighborhood, nothing's under $4 and $50,000 brand new on 65 foot

1238
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:38,240
lots. So, I think we really need to look at the home set exemption and also look at the budget.

1239
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:44,000
Makes and tough choices. I don't think you steal from sales tax.

1240
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:53,200
What's your here? What if the uses of those sales taxes, for instance, with 4A, or so restricted,

1241
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:58,400
that it's difficult to use that money? And the money is just going to accumulate,

1242
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:04,000
which has happened, which is happening. I mean, there are somewhere around $6 or $7 million in

1243
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,720
fun balance right now. I think that's sort of the challenge of where the city wants to be. Do we want to be just

1244
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:14,880
a better in community? Are we going to bring in some companies that can bring in jobs? And so someone like

1245
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:20,480
myself doesn't have to commute, doesn't have to get on a plane. Absolutely. And so we have a lot of,

1246
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:25,600
and we have a lot of tools to do economic development. I mean, 4A is not the sum total of our toolbox.

1247
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:30,400
We have 380 agreements. We've got tax statements agreements. We've got, you know, fees and that we can

1248
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:36,320
reduce. But I think there's lots of things. And so if they still have a revenue stream of several million

1249
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:44,720
dollars a year that's usable and it's difficult to use because of the way that the legislature has defined primary

1250
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:53,200
employment, you know, it's a good conversation I have, I think. I don't view it as stealing from them.

1251
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:58,480
It's not there a money to begin with. This is Susan's money. And it's just, I'm sorry, I'll take

1252
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:03,680
you in your time. I'm not familiar with you anymore. That's awesome. But I just questions are not on his time.

1253
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:12,800
You know, where the opportunities we have to try to balance all of this are few. And this is one of them.

1254
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:16,320
So, you know, would you oppose just putting it on the ballot and letting the voters decide?

1255
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:25,360
I think that that's, you know, I think. I think that's a very difficult question to see what your voters are going to do.

1256
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:33,280
Yeah. Well, you never know. Yeah, never know. And I think that that's really depends on the education that we get out.

1257
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:39,440
Yep. Poe, pro, pro, and events. Yeah. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you.

1258
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:44,080
All right. We will close the public hearing.

1259
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:52,560
Oh, I received it. Consider a raise of a resolution at the rising a change order with CC Coral Test,

1260
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:57,120
the Andersonville Road Phase One Reconstruction Project. And back in the Monday, green.

1261
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:03,760
Get into Mayor Nelson Allen Green, senior engineering associate. This out was related to a change order on the

1262
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Andersonville Road Phase One Reconstruction Project. When design of the project began the scope of the project

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consisted of the Reconstruction Andersonville Road as a mixture of two lanes of four lanes. There's

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there's also some acceleration that these acceleration lanes being constructed at the major

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driveways to the Coral and Coral slab. And the reason for this design was due to the available budget at

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the time when design was taking place. The four lanes sections are being constructed at the north

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end of the project near 1431 and the south end of the project at the gas bar being intersection.

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And the current four lane design at the gas bar being intersection is providing

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dedicated left and right turn lanes from Andersonville Road to gas bar being. But although that we're

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able to provide those term lanes at this time with phase one, additional improvements would be

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needed in this intersection during phase two of the project. After the construction bids,

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after we open construction bids they came in way under budgets. So we have some available funds.

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And since then we have requested the engineer extend the four lane section from where it currently ends

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just north of gas bar being to the south and that extension is about 600 feet. And that allows

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us to get the four lane section through the curve what we call the south curve on a project and increase

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mobility and safety on through that region. One thing that this allows us to do is also eliminate any

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future construction in the actual gas bar being Andersonville Road intersection with phase two.

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The contractor C.C. Carlton has provided the city change order to complete these improvements in the

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amount of $333,133,116 in 16 cents. And we recommend moving forward with the execution this change order.

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I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

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We're emotions.

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I'm like a motion to prove H2 as presented.

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Second motion, a second discussion. Those in favor say aye. Opposite. Motion carries.

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I think we're going to say for road. Thank you. H3 and H4 please.

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It's going to be your 2018 proposed budget and also to consider setting a maximum proposed

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tax rate for the tax year 2017 in fiscal year 18 and scheduling two total hearings on the tax rate.

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Finally, we have a theme. It's very and it's very tomorrow land. I like it.

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Good evening Mayor. I'm council and chat to send assistant finance director. So it's my opportunity to

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present the fiscal year 2018 proposed budget. So our primary goal about set is a balanced budget,

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which you will see today. But just as important, we feel the proposed budget reflects guided growth,

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relying on city council's to cheese it goals to address service levels in our departments,

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the meat, the expectations of our city residents. This includes maintaining a healthy sense of

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community, safety and security, planning for continued growth, all while maintaining strong fiscal health.

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In the budget, you'll see a reduction in the current property tax rate, largely due to growth and

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values. You'll see continued investment in public safety for fire station five and anticipated to

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come on later next year to more police officers in public safety support. We're also recommending

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additional support and core services, library, streets and neighborhoods, as well as areas that support

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those services. The budget also includes, excuse me, increases for our public safety personnel,

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health care costs.

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As well as pay for performance for our non-public safety employees. The budget also invest in additional

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transportation projects, continued commitment to bond projects, including major streets and parks improvements,

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a bill bowl of art, as well as a lay-clank park. It includes additional economic development

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agreements to attract businesses and jobs. And finally, the budget puts us in a flexible position

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to address our current and future debt service. So looking at the budget overview, our total operating

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budget is $140, proposed operating budget is $140 million. The general fund is the largest fund

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at $50.9 million, and provides for the day-to-day operations of the city. The utility fund is the

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second largest fund and accounts for water and sewer services provided to residents of the

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seat of park and surrounding areas. We have 12 restricted funds, which means those revenues that

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go into those funds can only be used for purposes such as 4A and 4B, a debt service fund,

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solid waste, and some others that are listed there. Our primary goal at outset is a balance budget.

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As chart overlays, the 2018 general fund resources over general fund expenditures, the outside circles,

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the revenue, and resources. Property tax, and includes property tax, sales tax, franchise fees,

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administrative, and contract services. And then we have a section for other that includes some

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development fees, park fees, municipal court fines, as well as a use of fund balance for one-time

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expenditures. Our expenditure categories include general government, support services,

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culture, and recreation, public works, and development, as well as public safety.

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Our largest revenue comes into the general fund as ad valorm, property tax revenue.

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So, there are two variables that determine the revenue, the city collects. The first one is property

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values, which is determined by the county ofraisers. The city property values grew as a whole from 7.4 billion

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in 2017 to 7.97 are an increase of 7.5%. Currently, the city foregoes 749,000 dollars

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through an agreement with an existing tax increment reinvestment zone, and 636,000 through a state

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exemption for seniors over 65. Finally, the city of Cedar Park has two local exemptions that

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can't talk about that have been adopted through ordinance, a 30,000 exemption for seniors,

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and a $20,000 exemption for disabled persons, and that equates to foregoing a little over $400,000

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annually. The second variable in the calculation of the AV revenue is the property tax rate,

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which is set by city council. I'm going to quickly walk through how we get to the rate in the proposed

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budget. So, our current rate is 47 cents. That's made up of maintenance and operations, which pays for the

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day-to-day services of the city, an interest in sinking or INS, and those are for payments for

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servicing the city's general debt. As part of the truth in taxation requirements and we're

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working closely with the tax assessors office, we calculate an effective M&O rate, which is the rate

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at which we would collect the same amount of revenue that we did in the prior year, based on increased

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values. We also, as part of the truth in taxation calculation, calculate a rollback rate. This is

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8% above the effective rate, which, if adopted, could trigger a vote by residents on the tax rate

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increase. The M&O working rate is 5.25% over the effective rate and just lower than our current

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M&O rate. The working INS rate is a decrease of 910% from the current rate, which gives council flexibility

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to address different debt management strategies. So, these two rates combined give us an overall

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1 cent decrease in today's total tax rate. Our working rate is 46 cents in the proposed budget,

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as I mentioned, a drop in 1 cent. This would be the 5th year in a row, largely as a result of strong

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growth in our values. Now, these charts show the split between the two components of the tax rate.

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You can see the small change between the two fiscal years. So, what does this assess value and

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02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:31,280
proposed rate mean to the average homeowner? So, the weighted average home value for Cedar Park, which combines

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Travis County properties in Wales, Williamson County, is $30637. This is an increase of 7.5%

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over the prior year. I'm applying this new average value to the rate of $46 per $100 average monthly

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levy would increase by 5.3%. This shows our history of AV revenue collections back to 2010.

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The proposed budget of $19.29 million includes $430,000 set aside for existing economic development

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agreements. This chart here gives us an idea of where Cedar Park stands in comparison to some

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benchmark cities. It's around this time that most cities are presenting their proposed tax rates.

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So, we hope anticipate having an updated chart for the first public hearing on August 24 to reflect

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the proposed rates. Looking at sales tax and other revenue, this shows our history of sales tax

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collections, the proposed budget of $13.8 million includes $1.85 million set aside in that

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02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:46,800
economic development department for existing economic development agreements. The 2017 estimate is 10%

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over 2016 and 2018 is another 5% over that fiscal year 2017 estimate. Apart from AV revenue and sales

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02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:05,600
tax, the city collects franchise fees from local utilities. We have revenue source from administrative

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fees for general fund support of the water utility and other funds like 4A and 4B. Development

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related fees remaining flat going into 2018. We have fees for service that includes things like fire

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protection to non-city entities, park program fees, library fees, fines are fees paid for through

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the municipal court system and we also have some miscellaneous revenue which includes delinquent property

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taxes, beverage tax as well as interest income and royalty payments from the quarry. Going into general

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fund expenses, this table is a lot here but it summarizes the changes that we make to the

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budget to go from the current 2017 budget to the proposed budget today. So the process begins by

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developing a baseline budget shown in column B. We take a snapshot of our personnel, we layer in

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known benefit costs, cost increases such as health care, retirement, we include step increases for

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our public safety personnel. We also strip out any one-time non-recurrent expenses such as vehicles like

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the Quint Fire Truck Fire Station 5. Once we have a baseline budget set we add in contract

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obligations and column D such as known increases, tech and non-development agreements and additional

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benefits to our uniform employees approved in the latest meet confer contract. We also have some IT,

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maintenance, contract increases and then once we get through adding those adjustments to base and

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column D that we know we need to have in the budget to maintain current service. We then layer

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in department needs and requests, which I'll touch on in the next few slides. Once we do that we arrive

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at the budget that's being presented today. So moving on to the service request, mostly we went over

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at the budget workshop so I won't go into detail but the proposed budget includes a total of 17 and a

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half full time equivalent employees, over half of which support public safety services and you can see

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that includes a police officers, a call-taker training sergeant, as well as IT staff to support

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the police department and some other items there. As far as non-public safety it supports neighborhoods,

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the IT department. We've added in there since the workshop a buyer which is partial offset by

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some savings that we hope to realize in next year's budget as well as a transfer from the utility fund

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to support that function. So that total cost is listed there, listed there is 63,000,

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the net that increased to the budget was about 26,000. It also includes funding for, as I mentioned,

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streets, library, as well as our legal team and civilian compensation. We have other

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other service requests, non-personality requests in the budget and I got an edge and you've seen

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most of these before at the budget workshop last week but it includes mostly one-time cost $1.3 million

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and an ongoing cost of $125,000. It includes the items that you see there today to support

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our fire department, the library, some a study for development of the quarry as well as our

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police department and public works function. So in the past the city is contracted with organizations

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including the 2017 budget. Organizations in the community to provide specialized services to our residents,

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the proposed budget increases the funding after meeting at the last week's budget workshop.

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It is increased the funding from $42,000 to $72,000 or an addition of $30,000. So this reflects

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approximately $1 and funding per city resident. Now we have two options for city council to consider

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if each is to maintain this increase. One option funds each organization at 92% of their

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requested amount, that's the first option. The second option would fund those with whom we've had

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past success and dealings at 7% at 95% and fund the new program at 72% unlike a trial with that

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organization in 2018. These two charts compare the increase, the one and a half million dollar

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increase from 2017 to 18. Of course we're a service organization that's reflected by salaries and

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benefits taking up the largest share followed by contract services which a third of that is the vehicle

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equipment replacement fund that departments pay into for the replacement of large purchases

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to normalize the purchase of large purchases over the years. We also have software contracts in

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contract services, a phrasal fees, and of course payment for the regional animal health, the

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second payment of the regional animal shelter which I'll talk about a little bit later on in this presentation.

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So in summary with those included, with those items included in the proposed budget that's

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general fund is structurally balanced. Now what this means is that our recurring revenue is covering

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our recurring expense. So we're projecting to collect $1.2 million less than our projected

1402
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expenses. However we can strategically utilize available fund balance for one-time expenses. So the

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net of some one-time revenue that we have coming in and one-time expenditures is $1.3.36 million. So this

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leaves us with the structural balance of a little over $100,000. Our ending balance is 18.9 million dollars

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which is 37%. And that falls right in the middle of our reserve policy of 25 to 50% of operating

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expenditures. So if you recall at the budget workshop we provided some information regarding increasing

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the city's annuity cost, annuity cost of living adjustment from our current 30% of CPI to 50%.

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So this is currently not included in the proposed budget but we did receive some direction from

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Council to go back and develop some options to fund this benefit. So we have three options for you

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today. Option A would increase the proposed rate from 5.25% to 6.61% over the effective rate. So this

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is just funding that benefit with property with an increased revenue rate. We would maintain a proposed

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rate of 46 cents overall and we decreased the INS rate another three tens of a cent. So instead of

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nine tens of a cent it would be about 1.2 cent 1.2 cents decreased to INS rate. Option B would delay the

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funding for the buyer position. One police officer is the assistant city attorney position that we're

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proposing as well as some reduced proposed funding in library materials, street striping and street

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lights. So pair back those items that are included in the proposed budget. I would give us a total

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reduction of about 253,000 dollars and we'd be able to fund that benefit and I don't have it listed on

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here and I should have mentioned at the very beginning but this benefit would be a recurring cost of

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about $350,000 a year. It's on the previous slide I'll just go back really quickly. We have a structural

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balance of 100,000 and so we would be looking for an additional 250,000 to have a total of $350,000

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available to fund this benefit going forward. That said the option C would delay two police officers

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in the proposed budget as well as the assistant city attorney position and that would come to a total

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reduction of $261,000.

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Just before you go, I thought at the budget workshop last week the structural balance was about

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$155 and change. It went into $50,000. That distributed to the community services or.

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The community services we also added the buyer position. Are you adding the buyer position? Right. So that was

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added. What we did is. That's right. You've got an accounting. Yeah, we used them off said. We

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All right, so moving on to the other half of the AV rate, interest and sinking for debt service payments.

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Now, this chart here shows a relationship between the scheduled annual debt service payments in the green blue and yellow bars.

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The INS rate is represented by the blue line and the revenue coming from that rate is represented by the shaded gray area.

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So based on our overall proposed rate of 46 cents with an INS at 22.95 cents, this gives council flexibility or capacity of $3.8 million to the fees or call debt in fiscal year 2018.

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Now, this is what is currently in the proposed budget.

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Now, at the budget workshop, there's also some discussion to look at various levels of INS rate and its impact on debt service capacity.

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So I have two additional scenarios for you to look at.

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The second scenario lowers the proposed INS rate, another cent from 22.95 cents to 21.95 cents, leaving capacity of 2.97 million, of course, to the fees or call at standing debt.

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The third scenario increases INS rate by nine tenths of a cent from our proposed rate and is the current INS rate used in the FY 2017 budget or 23.75, 23.875 cents.

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This leads capacity in 2018 of about $4.5 million.

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So the proposed budget includes $47 and a half million dollars in capital projects.

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These are funded by voter approved general obligation bonds, the 4B community development board and the utility fund.

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So there's three major categories you can see here.

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Transportation is the majority of those projects includes additional arterial overlay on our streets and roads.

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Improvements to new hope, Ronald Reagan to Sam Bass, also Anderson Mill, road phase two, and includes additional funding for Bell Boulevard redevelopment as well as traffic signals and turn lanes.

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For parks, adding that $3.74 million dollars in the majority of that is for Lake Lane Park.

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It also includes trails and bike facilities funded by 4B as well as the town center trail and pedestrian bridge.

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In the utility fund there's various water and wastewater projects that's funded by the utility fund as well as community impact fees that are paid for by developers for new development.

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Another item from the workshop that we talked about was funding for the build out and recapturing of the space in building three.

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So we've identified funding in the utility fund.

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We're anticipating this project for building three to about $2.6 million dollars.

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We've identified funding in the utility fund of $1.3 million.

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We have savings from the fire department, fire station five.

1451
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:21,000
Projects that's shown there is general fund transfer because that's because the general fund paid for a portion of that fire station five.

1452
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:27,000
We would be able to realize some of the savings in that project and move it to fund this project.

1453
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:36,000
And then we've also identified potentially using short term notes in the amount of $950,000 again for building three.

1454
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:44,000
We also modeled out financing the second of two payments for the city's contribution in the regional animal shelter.

1455
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:52,000
This year we plan on making a setting aside $500,000 to make a payment for the first payment for that construction.

1456
02:18:52,000 --> 02:18:57,000
We have in the budget today that I've gone over as a one time expense.

1457
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,000
$500,000 in the general fund.

1458
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:05,000
This what this option does is it would free up $500,000 in the general fund.

1459
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:17,000
We could short term finance that using these short term notes paired with with the building three short term short term notes of $950,000 for total of $1.45 million.

1460
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:30,000
With that we'd be able to fund the microwave backhaul connection projects that we talked about for the remaining fire stations in the budget that are currently not included.

1461
02:19:30,000 --> 02:19:50,000
We have one project in the one fire station in the budget funded by fiber for that for that connection and one I believe it's fire station two for for the microwave connection.

1462
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:57,000
Moving on to other funds our second largest fund is the utility fund and it's largely supported by utility bills for water and sewer.

1463
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:01,000
There's other revenue in there for interest income, late fees, reconnect fees.

1464
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:05,000
The proposed revenue is $34.3 million.

1465
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:16,000
On the expenditure side, the majority of the expenses in our transfers category that includes debt service for BCR UA, BCR WWS and revenue bonds.

1466
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:24,000
There's also pay-go water and wastewater projects as well as a transfer to the general fund for cost allocation.

1467
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:41,000
So for the contractual services is the second largest category those repayments to BCR UA and BCR WWS for debt service and maintenance of this facility and program as well as a franchise fee payment to the general fund.

1468
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:46,000
So in the utility fund there's two requests that are included in the proposed budget.

1469
02:20:46,000 --> 02:21:02,000
The first one is for a network administrator that's to really help manage the supervisory control and data acquisition or skates system and then an industrial pre-treatment position to assist the current personnel working on that.

1470
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:13,000
Moving to our economic development corporation or for a fund, revenues projected at $6.81 million with expenses totaling 5.6 million.

1471
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:17,000
The majority of that goes to make payments on the HB Center that service.

1472
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:21,000
We also have economic development agreements and support services.

1473
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:27,000
This is here some of the projected economic development agreements.

1474
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:39,000
That's why 2018 budget, again we're projecting a 5% growth similar to 4A, 5% growth over the 2017 year-end estimate.

1475
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:49,000
For expenses the budget is $7.9 million that's broken out in those areas on the right and I'll go through each of those categories.

1476
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:56,000
And briefly here. This chart depicts the four categories or buckets that the board approved on Tuesday.

1477
02:21:56,000 --> 02:22:03,000
In economic development includes fallbrook, Dana, Serenov and VV analytics for community enhancements.

1478
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:06,000
I've mentioned the town center trail in pedestrian bridge.

1479
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:16,000
A couple of feasibility studies, right turn lanes of improvements that little out in fire lane, corridor enhancements and a transit service plan.

1480
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:21,000
There's also a pull-mounted street signs and light pull banners for in the community identification area.

1481
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:29,000
As well as in destination city, $4 million set aside for bill boulevard redevelopment.

1482
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:33,000
We have some other smaller funds that we manage and budget for.

1483
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:42,000
And as you can see the projected fund balances are healthy for those funds going into the next fiscal year.

1484
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:49,000
So as we developed the budget this year, again we'd like to take a look at some of our financial policies.

1485
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:55,000
Currently there's no policy for reserve levels for 4A, 4B and tourism.

1486
02:22:55,000 --> 02:23:05,000
And what we're doing is we're recommending setting a minimum reserve level for 4A and 4B at two months of budgeted sales tax and one year of debt service.

1487
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:10,000
The tourism fund at two months of budgeted hot collections and one year of debt service.

1488
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:20,000
tourism fund doesn't have any debt service but in the event that they were to pledge some revenue for that purpose then we'd want to have that in place.

1489
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:34,000
We also as part of the reserve would recommend that using the minimum reserve could be used but we'd have to have a plan or that would be a company with a plan to replenish that within two fiscal years.

1490
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:48,000
So looking at even past next fiscal year, we're looking at a final build out looks for all our departments, specifically public safety and some of our other departments.

1491
02:23:48,000 --> 02:24:01,000
We have some expenses that we'll have to take over in fiscal year 2021 that includes signal maintenance for textile that the textile is currently paying for that so that's something that is on our radar.

1492
02:24:01,000 --> 02:24:09,000
We'll be looking at ONM costs for major bond projects including Lake Lime Park, the new library that will come on in the next few years.

1493
02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:18,000
We also have some major renovations taking place at building three at our place department building as well as fire station five coming online.

1494
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:30,000
And then of course managing our drainage issues and finally we have some redevelopment projects come up including bubble of art and then of course future query development.

1495
02:24:31,000 --> 02:24:43,000
As far as next steps, this is really the first step in the last stage of budget development after this item, you'll be asked to consider maximum tax rate.

1496
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:56,000
On August 24th we will we'll come back with updates and input from this meeting and have our first public hearing of a second public hearing on September 7 which is a special call meeting.

1497
02:24:56,000 --> 02:25:05,000
And then finally city council scheduled to approve a budget on September 14th.

1498
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:13,000
So Mayor, that is the presentation of the proposed budget. I'm available as well as city staff to answer any questions you may have.

1499
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:21,000
Thank you Mr. Tesis and that was an excellent thorough report and you make the complex understandable I appreciate it.

1500
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:24,000
We'll throw it open for discussion at this point.

1501
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:40,000
Okay, I like the idea of funding the cola. I had maybe a little bit of both I guess or maybe a jumble of all options.

1502
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:47,000
One of the things that was on the list for option two was delaying one of the police officers to fiscal year 19.

1503
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:53,000
I really do think that that's a good idea at this point. They still have currently two positions open.

1504
02:25:53,000 --> 02:26:01,000
They've been unfilled for a while. They've just hired on seven and just like with the fire department it's.

1505
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:14,000
We've been doing it in waves and having that open position locks up that money whether they fill it or not and I don't know if they can fill four positions in the next year.

1506
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:19,000
Because it took them how long to fill seven.

1507
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:21,000
I don't know the answer. It was a couple years.

1508
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:26,000
It was a question for the department. I mean, they have to go through a testing center and things like that.

1509
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:29,000
Yeah. I don't know what that looks like.

1510
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:39,000
We've actually made some changes this year to that hiring process that allows for a six month hiring list instead of a year long hiring list.

1511
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:47,000
And one of the reasons we did that was looking at some of the length of time that it was taking to be able to fill positions.

1512
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:49,000
But I'll turn it over to.

1513
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:51,000
Yeah. Good evening, Mayor Council.

1514
02:26:51,000 --> 02:26:54,000
Assistant Chief of my carbon sheet of park police department.

1515
02:26:54,000 --> 02:27:00,000
Currently, we did change our hiring process to shorten the list to a six month list.

1516
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:05,000
Previously, we had it to where it was 12 months or a year long list.

1517
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:10,000
Well, we couldn't really do anything until we exhausted that list or let it expire after a year.

1518
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:15,000
That was creating some issues with burning people on faster.

1519
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:21,000
So we should order it to a six month list, which helps speeds up the process a little bit.

1520
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:23,000
Okay.

1521
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:29,000
I guess I'm I'm I'm I worry a little bit about delaying positions that they've requested because they're.

1522
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:37,000
They're forced structure is based on an analysis by a consultant that says this is how many officers they need to patrol our city.

1523
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:39,000
It's not a formula of any sort.

1524
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:41,000
So.

1525
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:49,000
I take that to mean the consultant to said we need these positions and I don't know that I know enough about what the consultant said to.

1526
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:52,000
Maybe we could put off one of them three year.

1527
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:58,000
I think I can sort of agree that the coal needs to be increased.

1528
02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:04,000
However, in terms of three options, I think the first one is probably the most viable.

1529
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:12,000
If there are to be any cutbacks, I would not want it to be from the police or fire, but more from any administrative positions that.

1530
02:28:12,000 --> 02:28:16,000
Are critical to the services of the city.

1531
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:22,000
I think police and fire are critical and so we we were to shave back on anything perhaps.

1532
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:26,000
You know on outside contractors or.

1533
02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:30,000
You know delaying a project fry in extra year or so.

1534
02:28:30,000 --> 02:28:32,000
Well, I'm not talking about not hiring any police.

1535
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:38,000
I mean we already have two positions open so we're talking about hiring three instead of four.

1536
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:42,000
That's not I mean that's not a significant difference.

1537
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:46,000
We're talking about hiring three instead of four.

1538
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:50,000
And then saving that 84,000 and allowing them to hire that fourth one.

1539
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:52,000
Next year next fiscal year.

1540
02:28:52,000 --> 02:28:56,000
Um, well, option A just from a.

1541
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:58,000
T.

1542
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:00,000
Planning.

1543
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:02,000
Mo with the dynamics of the legislature stuff.

1544
02:29:02,000 --> 02:29:06,000
Actually is a logical move and kind of protect interest to the city.

1545
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:08,000
I agree.

1546
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:12,000
No part part of what I wanted to talk about was.

1547
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:16,000
Um, using that option A is the majority of it.

1548
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:22,000
However, I don't want to necessarily drop that INS rating down quite slow.

1549
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:24,000
I'm concerned that we wouldn't be able to then use.

1550
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,000
Um.

1551
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:30,000
It's flashing really fast on this.

1552
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:32,000
Sorry.

1553
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:38,000
Um, so if you would say is to use that 84,000 convert that into the INS rate.

1554
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:40,000
Uh,

1555
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:42,000
Potentially that.

1556
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,000
Um, some other options would be.

1557
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:48,000
Uh, the query study potentially delay that to fiscal year 19.

1558
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,000
I'm not sure how all of you feel about that.

1559
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,000
I would.

1560
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:54,000
Um, we've got to head on that one.

1561
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:55,000
Yeah.

1562
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:56,000
We also have.

1563
02:29:56,000 --> 02:30:00,000
75,000 dollars for an November election.

1564
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,560
And also that I have fairly seen the benefit in that. And I think if we can cut out some of these

1565
02:30:10,560 --> 02:30:21,520
other things, potentially increase that tax rate to 0.465, that brings our M&O to that 0.23345 that you

1566
02:30:21,520 --> 02:30:32,920
were looking at, but that also increases the INS sort of halfway in between to 0.23155 for INS rate.

1567
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:40,080
So then we have a little bit more debt capacity. We can do a look at a defacement plan. That means we can also do the

1568
02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:47,080
COLA, and we can also potentially bring in that 14-day pay cycle. And it will all cancel.

1569
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:53,080
What's the, I guess I have a significant question. What is our defacement opportunities this year?

1570
02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:57,080
I thought Dan or somebody was supposed to give us a report or a year to go.

1571
02:30:57,080 --> 02:31:07,080
Dan's in Colorado, so he's available on the 17th and the 24th. And so what, he ran a couple of scenarios.

1572
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:15,080
You have the ability to def ease just looking at the option and it really depends on how far out it's

1573
02:31:15,080 --> 02:31:22,080
possible. He ran a scenario looking at a 2.5 million in defesence and what that savings

1574
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:35,080
would look like and it was around 630,000 I believe. And so we haven't run all all scenarios of defesence.

1575
02:31:35,080 --> 02:31:38,080
So it's about 3,000 over how long?

1576
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:45,080
Over, well, over that when they restructural that and you defies that, so they remodel it.

1577
02:31:45,080 --> 02:31:48,080
And so it's an instant real money savings.

1578
02:31:48,080 --> 02:31:51,080
It's not out of one year, but it's up for that.

1579
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:56,080
It's about 30,000 years. It's about 30,000 years.

1580
02:31:56,080 --> 02:32:02,080
That you got to pay 2.5 million for maybe maybe not. I want to see it.

1581
02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:10,080
Okay. And I was also wondering if we, because we were talking about the shifting things to the one-time payments and

1582
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:17,080
potentially using that slide one away.

1583
02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:25,080
There it went. The short term financing for it for finishing up. Oh, that was in there.

1584
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:29,080
I'm finishing up. I'm finishing up the microwave.

1585
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:32,080
Backhaul on the fiber storage.

1586
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:36,080
But is it possible to move the PD storage into that one as well?

1587
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:38,080
I think the PD storage is in that one.

1588
02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:40,080
Oh, it is.

1589
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:45,080
And just for a point of clarification, the election piece.

1590
02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:48,080
And even to one other project.

1591
02:32:48,080 --> 02:32:52,080
Of course, both of those are considered one-time funding as well.

1592
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:59,080
So they're actually, they're not in the recurring cost of the budget.

1593
02:32:59,080 --> 02:33:05,080
They are in as considerations for use of the one-time funds.

1594
02:33:05,080 --> 02:33:08,080
So, yeah.

1595
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:12,080
So normally we wouldn't swap those for cost that are recurring.

1596
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:16,080
So that wouldn't be able to get us to the $9,000 needed for the project.

1597
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:18,080
Probably not through those things.

1598
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:21,080
Okay.

1599
02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:23,080
We'll have to go back and look again.

1600
02:33:23,080 --> 02:33:26,080
So is there a way, because we're hearing about this for the first time?

1601
02:33:26,080 --> 02:33:27,080
We don't have to decide this tonight.

1602
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:30,080
So is there a way for us to get this from?

1603
02:33:30,080 --> 02:33:35,080
Heather, like, as you give it to y'all, like an email or something,

1604
02:33:35,080 --> 02:33:38,080
or do we wait for the next meeting for the past set on a piece of paper?

1605
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:40,080
Or like, how do we open meetings this thing?

1606
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:42,080
So we can actually see it on paper.

1607
02:33:42,080 --> 02:33:45,080
Well, we need to set a maximum tax rate tonight, right?

1608
02:33:45,080 --> 02:33:46,080
Yes.

1609
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:47,080
So we kind of have to do that.

1610
02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:49,080
Yeah, but the stuff she's talking about.

1611
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:50,080
Yeah.

1612
02:33:50,080 --> 02:33:51,080
I mean, by the way, I agree.

1613
02:33:51,080 --> 02:33:54,080
I think it's time to go to the 50% cola.

1614
02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:56,080
And I'm open to the funding method.

1615
02:33:56,080 --> 02:33:59,080
There are ways that I like more than others.

1616
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:02,080
But again, part of budgeting is prioritizing.

1617
02:34:02,080 --> 02:34:05,080
So, I'm open to discussion.

1618
02:34:05,080 --> 02:34:10,080
I would lean against the public safety personnel in the quarry study,

1619
02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:13,080
although that's more of a one-time thing.

1620
02:34:14,080 --> 02:34:21,080
Anyway, we've got another three bites at this apple, so we've got time.

1621
02:34:21,080 --> 02:34:25,080
But that's on my list of things I'd like to see included.

1622
02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:30,080
I think I'd like to, I mean, actually, I think we can come in significantly under 46,

1623
02:34:30,080 --> 02:34:35,080
but I would not be willing to go above 46 for our maximum rate for the coming year.

1624
02:34:35,080 --> 02:34:40,080
And then doing that, we can get the MNO rate at 23, 393,

1625
02:34:40,080 --> 02:34:44,080
which is enough to fund the cola, which I fully sport.

1626
02:34:44,080 --> 02:34:47,080
It still leaves 22, 607 on the I&S side,

1627
02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:52,080
which is sort of between options 1 and 2, I guess,

1628
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:55,080
the way Chad presented them tonight.

1629
02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:57,080
There's a lot of bonding capacity in that.

1630
02:34:57,080 --> 02:35:01,080
Yeah, it'll give us some worth of $3 million for this coming year,

1631
02:35:01,080 --> 02:35:04,080
and it'll still leave, you know, more than 2 million

1632
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:06,080
most years going forward.

1633
02:35:06,080 --> 02:35:08,080
So there's a...

1634
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:10,080
Let me just put it this way.

1635
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:16,080
We could reduce the I&S rate this year to 18.3% or 18.3 cents,

1636
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:19,080
and still make our debt payments this year.

1637
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:22,080
So that's how much extra capacity is in there.

1638
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:27,080
We could make our debt payments, but then we wouldn't be able to call a bond for drainage.

1639
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:28,080
Nope.

1640
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:30,080
Not until somebody was finished.

1641
02:35:30,080 --> 02:35:32,080
We can always call an election.

1642
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:34,080
But we wouldn't be able to pay it.

1643
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:35,080
That would.

1644
02:35:35,080 --> 02:35:37,080
The I&S rate can go up.

1645
02:35:37,080 --> 02:35:38,080
The I&S rate is...

1646
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:40,080
I thought talking about not wanting to raise the tax rate.

1647
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:41,080
I don't want to.

1648
02:35:41,080 --> 02:35:42,080
But then...

1649
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,080
That's why we reduce it now if we're...

1650
02:35:44,080 --> 02:35:45,080
I'm not saying...

1651
02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:46,080
I'm not saying...

1652
02:35:46,080 --> 02:35:47,080
I'm not saying...

1653
02:35:47,080 --> 02:35:49,080
I'm not proposing that we do in 18.3 cents.

1654
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:50,080
I&S rate.

1655
02:35:50,080 --> 02:35:54,080
I'm just saying that is the number that we legally have to fund.

1656
02:35:54,080 --> 02:35:56,080
The rest of it, that's the floor.

1657
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:58,080
Is up to us to decide how high to go,

1658
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:00,080
and what we want to do with that.

1659
02:36:00,080 --> 02:36:02,080
And that's the conversation we'll have in future budgets.

1660
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:04,080
A future budget meetings.

1661
02:36:04,080 --> 02:36:05,080
But...

1662
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:10,080
You know, the I&S rate has a lot of excess capacity within it.

1663
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:14,080
Sort of intentionally to try to cut down on the amount of volatility in it.

1664
02:36:14,080 --> 02:36:17,080
But I don't know that it was anticipated when that decision was made

1665
02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:20,080
that we'd end up with $3 and $4 million surplus is every year.

1666
02:36:20,080 --> 02:36:22,080
Which you're going to be hard...

1667
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:24,080
Which you're going to be hard to pay down.

1668
02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:27,080
Because we don't have $3 or $4 million worth of...

1669
02:36:27,080 --> 02:36:30,080
Defeasence is we can call this year.

1670
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:31,080
So...

1671
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:32,080
So...

1672
02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:33,080
And $2.5 million.

1673
02:36:33,080 --> 02:36:34,080
And so with one...

1674
02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:35,080
And so with one...

1675
02:36:35,080 --> 02:36:37,080
We're going to have to use to call the drainage bond.

1676
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:38,080
I don't understand what you're saying.

1677
02:36:38,080 --> 02:36:40,080
What do you mean we have to call the drainage bond?

1678
02:36:40,080 --> 02:36:45,080
Well, we need to get that on the ballot at some point within the next nine months before next.

1679
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:46,080
Right.

1680
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:48,080
And I'm trying to put something on the...

1681
02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:49,080
But we need...

1682
02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:52,080
It's a prior agenda item, but I'm trying to have something on the agenda in November,

1683
02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:55,080
and then again in May to take care of that.

1684
02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:56,080
I mean...

1685
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:59,080
We have to have the funds available to be able to cover our debts.

1686
02:36:59,080 --> 02:37:02,080
We don't need to leave the next council to figure it out.

1687
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:04,080
No, and that's not what I'm saying.

1688
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:05,080
We don't...

1689
02:37:05,080 --> 02:37:07,080
So tonight we're setting the max tax rate.

1690
02:37:07,080 --> 02:37:08,080
We're not actually setting...

1691
02:37:08,080 --> 02:37:10,080
No, that's all we have tax rate.

1692
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:14,080
The legislative session ends on 16th, 17th.

1693
02:37:14,080 --> 02:37:17,080
Then we'll know what the legislature's doing to us.

1694
02:37:17,080 --> 02:37:19,080
And ready to turn your park taxes.

1695
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:21,080
Looking like six.

1696
02:37:21,080 --> 02:37:24,080
I mean, whatever they do this year isn't going to affect this year's budget.

1697
02:37:24,080 --> 02:37:25,080
Unless they've changed...

1698
02:37:25,080 --> 02:37:26,080
Well, it'll affect the future year.

1699
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:28,080
Well, recently we'll affect future years.

1700
02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:29,080
And so we...

1701
02:37:29,080 --> 02:37:31,080
We'll decide this right tonight.

1702
02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:34,080
We'll decide the maximum rate.

1703
02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:35,080
And then...

1704
02:37:35,080 --> 02:37:37,080
I'll just go ahead and make a motion then.

1705
02:37:37,080 --> 02:37:41,080
Set the maximum rate at 46 cents per hundred dollar valuation.

1706
02:37:41,080 --> 02:37:44,080
With an operating and maintenance rate of...

1707
02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:48,080
23.345 cents per hundred.

1708
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:53,080
In interest in sinking rate of 22.677 per hundred.

1709
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:55,080
Dollar valuation.

1710
02:37:55,080 --> 02:37:58,080
Schedule public hearings on the tax rate for August 24th and September 7th.

1711
02:37:58,080 --> 02:38:03,080
And schedule a vote to adopt tax rate on September 14th, 2017.

1712
02:38:03,080 --> 02:38:04,080
The max doesn't add up on that.

1713
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:07,080
What is that restricted on the coal options or not?

1714
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:08,080
Yeah.

1715
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:09,080
Yeah.

1716
02:38:09,080 --> 02:38:10,080
Oh, you're right.

1717
02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:11,080
Hold on.

1718
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:12,080
I got the numbers off.

1719
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:14,080
It's 22.655 on the INS side.

1720
02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:16,080
It's actually higher than what I just said.

1721
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:17,080
So it's...

1722
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:18,080
The oxygenate.

1723
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:19,080
Okay.

1724
02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:20,080
There we go.

1725
02:38:20,080 --> 02:38:21,080
So your...

1726
02:38:21,080 --> 02:38:22,080
Your...

1727
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:23,080
You're right.

1728
02:38:23,080 --> 02:38:24,080
The exact option I own here.

1729
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:26,080
It's 46 cents per hundred dollars.

1730
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:30,080
Point two, three, three, four, five on M&O and point two, two, six, five, five on INS.

1731
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:31,080
Yeah.

1732
02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:32,080
Okay.

1733
02:38:32,080 --> 02:38:33,080
That's your motion.

1734
02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:34,080
Yeah.

1735
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:35,080
Second that.

1736
02:38:35,080 --> 02:38:36,080
But I had the numbers run.

1737
02:38:36,080 --> 02:38:37,080
Motion in the second.

1738
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:38,080
Any further discussion?

1739
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:42,080
I would like to amend that to point four, six, five so that it gives us some room.

1740
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:47,080
The legislature really does decide that they're going to...

1741
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:49,080
Handstring us in the future.

1742
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:55,080
But you can't put the half-sent into the M&O that would put us over the rollback rate this year.

1743
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:59,080
It can be divided between the two or it can go into INS.

1744
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:03,080
Well, I don't know that I want to take the M&O rate to the rollback rate this year.

1745
02:39:03,080 --> 02:39:08,080
But if it goes into the INS, the INS then becomes 0.23155.

1746
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:14,080
Anticipate. Anticipate. Anticipating a 6% I don't think there's any reason to inflate our tax rate in

1747
02:39:14,080 --> 02:39:18,080
years or what the legislature is going to do. We can budget later or raise taxes later.

1748
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:24,080
No, it's 0.46. That's it. That's a 5.5 and a quarter percent increase.

1749
02:39:24,080 --> 02:39:28,080
That's actually 6.61 percent. The M&O.

1750
02:39:28,080 --> 02:39:32,080
But the total rate. The total rate is a decrease of a penny.

1751
02:39:32,080 --> 02:39:36,080
No, let me say. I'm assuming. How much more are we taxing people?

1752
02:39:36,080 --> 02:39:38,080
How much more are we taxing people?

1753
02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:42,080
Like we were talking about. That's the question with the maximum rate.

1754
02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:48,080
At 46.46. It was 5.75 percent increase, right?

1755
02:39:48,080 --> 02:39:52,080
What would yes? The total rollback?

1756
02:39:52,080 --> 02:39:56,080
Yes. At 0.465 it becomes right at that 6%.

1757
02:39:56,080 --> 02:40:02,080
Yeah, let me I think it's one of these later slides.

1758
02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:07,080
So the rollback is 23.65 cents.

1759
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:10,080
At was one of the little bubbles that you put on that one?

1760
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:14,080
Right, so the most you could put into M&O would be 0.

1761
02:40:14,080 --> 02:40:18,080
Leaving the M&O at that 0.23345.

1762
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:22,080
I don't understand why we want to increase the I&S rate that high.

1763
02:40:22,080 --> 02:40:27,080
I'm just setting the max based on what the legislature might do.

1764
02:40:27,080 --> 02:40:30,080
And I think that we can always go down from there.

1765
02:40:30,080 --> 02:40:33,080
I like to start at a lower number and work down personally.

1766
02:40:33,080 --> 02:40:35,080
Then start at a higher number and work down.

1767
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:37,080
It's still going to be a half a cent decrease.

1768
02:40:37,080 --> 02:40:39,080
I know I'd like it to be more.

1769
02:40:39,080 --> 02:40:40,080
I know you would.

1770
02:40:40,080 --> 02:40:42,080
But I'd like to set the max rate.

1771
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:45,080
You've made a motion to amend.

1772
02:40:45,080 --> 02:40:46,080
Okay.

1773
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:48,080
Consider the amendment friendly?

1774
02:40:48,080 --> 02:40:49,080
No.

1775
02:40:49,080 --> 02:40:50,080
Okay.

1776
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:55,080
Is there a second to the amendment?

1777
02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:59,080
All right, hearing none, we're back to the original motion of 46 cents.

1778
02:40:59,080 --> 02:41:02,080
Is there any further discussion?

1779
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:04,080
Hearing none, those of the favour say aye.

1780
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:05,080
Aye.

1781
02:41:05,080 --> 02:41:06,080
Aye.

1782
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,080
Opposed no?

1783
02:41:07,080 --> 02:41:08,080
No.

1784
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:09,080
Motion carries.

1785
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:10,080
Okay.

1786
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:13,080
We will we will bring this back.

1787
02:41:16,080 --> 02:41:20,080
Discussion review of 15 regulations.

1788
02:41:24,080 --> 02:41:26,080
Good evening, Mayor and council.

1789
02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:30,080
Your brief presentation about our fence regulations.

1790
02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:34,080
No laughing from the side.

1791
02:41:34,080 --> 02:41:41,080
We've had some questions about fence maintenance and about different types of fence regulations.

1792
02:41:41,080 --> 02:41:43,080
So just wanted to provide some brief information.

1793
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:45,080
First about fence maintenance.

1794
02:41:45,080 --> 02:41:49,080
We do have sections in our code specifically within chapter 14.

1795
02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:55,080
Our site development regulations as well as the adopted international property maintenance code that require that.

1796
02:41:55,080 --> 02:42:01,080
The residential well all fences be maintained but we're really focusing on residential fences here.

1797
02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:05,080
Typically like the picture you see on the screen.

1798
02:42:05,080 --> 02:42:13,080
We find that most of the fence violations or maintenance issues that we see are in neighborhoods where you don't have a homeowner's association.

1799
02:42:13,080 --> 02:42:18,080
So when we find issues like this we go into.

1800
02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:23,080
We notify the property owner and go through the compliance process and I will note.

1801
02:42:23,080 --> 02:42:30,080
When we notify the property owner if they so choose to they don't have to keep their fence up they could take it down.

1802
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:33,080
But if they do want to maintain their fence.

1803
02:42:33,080 --> 02:42:39,080
We would initially provide either a verbal or written warning saying we've identified the violation.

1804
02:42:39,080 --> 02:42:43,080
We've given them typically seven to ten days to comply with that violation.

1805
02:42:43,080 --> 02:42:51,080
If after reinspection after that seven to ten days we notice that they still have not maintained their fence we issue a notice of violation.

1806
02:42:51,080 --> 02:42:57,080
Give them a formal notice that then allows them an additional seven to ten days to come into compliance.

1807
02:42:57,080 --> 02:43:08,080
If after that time frame they still aren't in compliance we would issue a citation and that citation within go through our municipal court process which typically.

1808
02:43:08,080 --> 02:43:14,080
It's about 30 days from the time that citation is issued to the time of their first appearance in court.

1809
02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:22,080
So there's quite a bit of time in there that we try to allow the property owner to come into compliance before we get to that citation process.

1810
02:43:22,080 --> 02:43:27,080
We really are goalless compliance and not to issue citations.

1811
02:43:27,080 --> 02:43:33,080
So that's one side of the fence regulations and other part of the fence regulations is dealing with height.

1812
02:43:33,080 --> 02:43:39,080
A lot of the issues that we see are fences that are over the allowable height within the city.

1813
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:42,080
Right now our maximum is six feet.

1814
02:43:42,080 --> 02:43:49,080
And that would be on the sides and rear of your property and in the front yard we're allowing up to three feet and height.

1815
02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:54,080
As you can see at the picture on the right there's an eight foot fence there.

1816
02:43:54,080 --> 02:44:08,080
And there's a lot of interest in having eight foot fences there are quite a few of those around town and so one of the reasons why we're bringing this forward is to kind of get some direction on if you would like to look at amending our fence regulations.

1817
02:44:08,080 --> 02:44:19,080
We did look at our benchmark cities and quite a few of them a majority of them allow for an eight foot fence and they do allow for a little bit taller fence in the front yard.

1818
02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:29,080
And we're also thinking maybe there could be an allowance for an even six foot fence within the front front yard.

1819
02:44:29,080 --> 02:44:37,080
If it was like rot iron it was not opaque so it could be seen through.

1820
02:44:37,080 --> 02:44:41,080
And maybe that would only apply to larger acreage lots.

1821
02:44:41,080 --> 02:44:50,080
We have quite a few homestead lots in the city that are larger acreage that like to have a front yard fence that's more substantial in three feet.

1822
02:44:50,080 --> 02:45:00,080
So with that we're just looking for some guidance from you on if you'd like to see us come back with some modifications to the fence regulations.

1823
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,000
And I will note right now we don't require a fence permit. So if people are unaware of our fence regulations, they're putting up fences that may not comply with our code.

1824
02:45:12,000 --> 02:45:20,000
I've had several neighbors ask about a foot fences and a couple of them have actually begun installing their foot fences.

1825
02:45:20,000 --> 02:45:27,000
And then when someone said, hey, you can't do that, they came and asked me and I said, I think it's 60, but I don't really know why it's 60.

1826
02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:30,000
I think that's kind of been a policy, you know.

1827
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:31,000
It's been around for you.

1828
02:45:31,000 --> 02:45:34,000
You get taller and taller kind of creates that walled in feeling.

1829
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:40,000
Is that an industry standard from the development community? Is that the standard size?

1830
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:42,000
That's kind of been the typical size.

1831
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:43,000
How is it?

1832
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:44,000
How is it?

1833
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:51,000
When a lot of HOA's have a mandate for six offenses, well, I believe mine does, but I'm not positive.

1834
02:45:51,000 --> 02:45:56,000
And I, and I conversely, I think there are some HOA's that would allow up to an 8-5.

1835
02:45:56,000 --> 02:46:00,000
But because of our, I'm just saying there are other things that will come into effect.

1836
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:07,000
I don't have any, I think we should go ahead and go to maximum 8 personally, but I'm just 8 person.

1837
02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:08,000
I don't have a problem with it either.

1838
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:20,000
I do have a question on the front yard, you know, if it's, you know, if it's a, because if we're a block, you know, roadways, if it's extended out where you couldn't see, you know,

1839
02:46:20,000 --> 02:46:21,000
and that would be a.

1840
02:46:21,000 --> 02:46:22,000
Right.

1841
02:46:22,000 --> 02:46:26,000
Our current regulations do prohibit you from obstructing that sight line.

1842
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:35,000
So, even if we would were to consider something different, it still can obstruct that sight distance.

1843
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:36,000
That sight line.

1844
02:46:36,000 --> 02:46:37,000
That sight line in process.

1845
02:46:37,000 --> 02:46:40,000
So you only find about, find out about it afterwards.

1846
02:46:40,000 --> 02:46:41,000
That is true.

1847
02:46:41,000 --> 02:46:42,000
Yeah.

1848
02:46:42,000 --> 02:46:43,000
That is true.

1849
02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:45,000
Yes.

1850
02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:46,000
Think about the private code enforcement.

1851
02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:50,000
I, and not they have a really large property with a, a state, and they, you know, they, they have setbacks,

1852
02:46:50,000 --> 02:47:00,000
they would put the ornamental fences on, I'm good with a taller ornamental fence, but yeah, that's I think.

1853
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:02,000
Three, for your standard law, you know.

1854
02:47:02,000 --> 02:47:03,000
Yeah.

1855
02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:04,000
Okay.

1856
02:47:07,000 --> 02:47:08,000
Really that's on, I was looking for this evening.

1857
02:47:08,000 --> 02:47:10,000
It was a direction and it was like that.

1858
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:11,000
That's a green forward amendment.

1859
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:12,000
We can ponder it further.

1860
02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:13,000
Okay.

1861
02:47:13,000 --> 02:47:14,000
Thank you.

1862
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:15,000
All right.

1863
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:16,000
Each six.

1864
02:47:16,000 --> 02:47:19,000
Just especially at the 180-3A French Road completion.

1865
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:24,000
Do we have a staff presentation on this?

1866
02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:31,000
I just, you know, I just wanted to update the council, you know, for several years now,

1867
02:47:31,000 --> 02:47:40,000
we've been talking about urging the completion of the front-age road system through Cedar Park.

1868
02:47:41,000 --> 02:47:44,000
I've had some decent progress on that.

1869
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:49,000
It's all really preliminary, so I really don't have anything to report.

1870
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:53,000
Brendan Sam and I met with my colleague in Stine.

1871
02:47:53,000 --> 02:47:55,000
Last week, I guess.

1872
02:47:55,000 --> 02:48:01,000
Obviously, Representative Dale's legislation has kind of gone toward this a little bit.

1873
02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:08,000
But, you know, I wanted to put it on the agenda in case anyone had any questions.

1874
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:10,000
I've got another meeting tomorrow on it.

1875
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:15,000
Just to kind of hear what we're looking at potential funding methods, you know, what

1876
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:24,000
what pots of money are out there, and it seems to be an idea that's really starting

1877
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:27,000
to come around.

1878
02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:29,000
Any questions on it?

1879
02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:31,000
I just wanted to see, I didn't think you'd have any of that.

1880
02:48:31,000 --> 02:48:32,000
There were some questions.

1881
02:48:32,000 --> 02:48:37,000
I guess Representative Dale posted something on Facebook about this, and some people sort of

1882
02:48:37,000 --> 02:48:40,000
questions about, you know, where would they put them?

1883
02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:45,000
And they have to, you know, take out more roads, fronting neighborhoods?

1884
02:48:45,000 --> 02:48:47,000
No, actually with neighborhoods.

1885
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:52,000
I think it'd be good to get some kind of discussion about what it would look like and get that

1886
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:54,000
data out there on the city's website and stuff.

1887
02:48:54,000 --> 02:49:00,000
I think there's, I think there's discussion first of all that they would be one-lane or two-lane.

1888
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:03,000
There is existing right away.

1889
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:07,000
You know, the question becomes, you know, what sort of bridges would be needed.

1890
02:49:07,000 --> 02:49:12,000
But because the road was built reasonably wide and, you know, you've got areas like where

1891
02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:17,000
it goes through four stoics, where it was built with a big toll island in the middle that's

1892
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:22,000
no longer in use, and therefore the paving probably already exists.

1893
02:49:22,000 --> 02:49:26,000
It's just a question of putting up barriers in that sort of thing.

1894
02:49:27,000 --> 02:49:35,000
The idea of an untold, another untold northsouth, you know, obviously, I mean, we've had many discussions about this,

1895
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:38,000
but, you know, there's a lot of good opportunity there.

1896
02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:40,000
It could definitely play favorably into the bill.

1897
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:45,000
Both of our discussion because it would be automatic traffic coming there.

1898
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:52,000
I have yet to figure out a downside to the city for this, but yeah, that's a good,

1899
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:59,000
I think after we have discussions with a few other groups, which are mostly happening on the staff level,

1900
02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:04,000
I think we could take a look at that because that's all right.

1901
02:50:04,000 --> 02:50:07,000
I think it would be helpful.

1902
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:11,000
I'm just, I'm glad there's finally some movement on it.

1903
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:17,000
Like for instance, they wouldn't be trying to incorporate the portion of front of drove that currently exist,

1904
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:21,000
going towards 1431 because that's super high speed exit there.

1905
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:24,000
Yeah, and that's hard to say something different.

1906
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:25,000
They'd have to go through a design.

1907
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:26,000
It's also up in there.

1908
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:28,000
I mean, when they will tell you, there's two hundred feet of right away.

1909
02:50:28,000 --> 02:50:29,000
Yeah.

1910
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:32,000
So the chances of having to have any additional right away are very, very slammed.

1911
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:36,000
Right, but if they move the road closer to the neighborhood, even within the existing right away,

1912
02:50:36,000 --> 02:50:39,000
I think that's going to perturb some folks.

1913
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:41,000
You know, again, they're already traffic linked.

1914
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:43,000
And the traffic is on the outside today.

1915
02:50:43,000 --> 02:50:44,000
It's not on the inside.

1916
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:47,000
It would be pushing more traffic potentially to the inside.

1917
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:48,000
Oh, man.

1918
02:50:48,000 --> 02:50:54,000
So actually, some of the traffic would be getting further between the neighborhoods than closer to.

1919
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:55,000
Okay.

1920
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:56,000
So I didn't understand there.

1921
02:50:56,000 --> 02:51:02,000
I mean, one thing I would say, here to four, for years and years and years, we have lobbied them.

1922
02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:04,000
And then there's been no.

1923
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:06,000
And now there's some movement on it.

1924
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:13,000
And in conversation and discussions and ideas and what, so if we can get a little more momentum on this,

1925
02:51:13,000 --> 02:51:17,000
then I think we can start doing the additional research to get those answers.

1926
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:22,000
And, you know, beyond that, I would say turn of foot is a lot.

1927
02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:24,000
That's a lot of land.

1928
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:25,000
Yeah.

1929
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:31,000
And the notion that we would never put roads in any front-end roads, I mean, it makes sense.

1930
02:51:31,000 --> 02:51:33,000
It's a good space for it.

1931
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:34,000
Yeah.

1932
02:51:34,000 --> 02:51:41,000
I'm just trying to be sensitive to particularly, you know, the four stoics and whatever we call the area on the other side of the toll road there.

1933
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:43,000
Part police want or whatever.

1934
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:44,000
Good point.

1935
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,000
They already have a toll road in their backyard.

1936
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:54,000
So there's going to be a little sensitive about us expanding the roadway outward.

1937
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:56,000
If we can expand it inward or just try.

1938
02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:57,000
Yeah.

1939
02:51:57,000 --> 02:51:59,000
If you do that section next to four stoics, maybe so.

1940
02:51:59,000 --> 02:52:01,000
There's a lot of extra payment already there.

1941
02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:02,000
Yeah.

1942
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:06,000
And I think that's the kind of stuff I'm looking to see kind of thoughts we're getting.

1943
02:52:06,000 --> 02:52:11,000
Hopefully we'll get to the point where we can get into that detail and bring y'all that information.

1944
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:17,000
I'd also like to recognize Mark and our audience who's actually one of our CT or a board member.

1945
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:18,000
Oh, that's right.

1946
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:19,000
Thank you for your service.

1947
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:25,000
And we, we, we, we may have some things to discuss here at some point.

1948
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:27,000
We're about about your new dissolved status.

1949
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:28,000
Thank you.

1950
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,000
All right.

1951
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:34,000
Each seven.

1952
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:36,000
Consideration of it.

1953
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:38,000
Application for Bores and Commissions.

1954
02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:43,000
Are we to the point that we can approve anything at this point?

1955
02:52:43,000 --> 02:52:45,000
There was really nothing in the packet.

1956
02:52:45,000 --> 02:52:47,000
So I'm not sure where we're at.

1957
02:52:47,000 --> 02:52:50,000
I know you talked about some things at one meeting.

1958
02:52:50,000 --> 02:52:54,000
We were like three or four meetings ago and I just kind of keep waiting for a final version to come back.

1959
02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:55,000
We can go.

1960
02:52:55,000 --> 02:52:56,000
Oh.

1961
02:52:56,000 --> 02:52:57,000
Good.

1962
02:52:57,000 --> 02:52:59,000
Well, I apologize for that.

1963
02:52:59,000 --> 02:53:02,000
I think we sent you some information that just looked at.

1964
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:05,000
The follow up on what?

1965
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:06,000
Yeah.

1966
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:07,000
Yeah.

1967
02:53:07,000 --> 02:53:08,000
I'm that he's had done.

1968
02:53:08,000 --> 02:53:13,000
And so really I think we were just waiting for some the final feedback piece on.

1969
02:53:13,000 --> 02:53:16,000
Here's the data that that was requested.

1970
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:22,000
I think the only discussion that I had looked at, you know, was a.

1971
02:53:22,000 --> 02:53:27,000
Mr. R. R. Still had a suggestion about.

1972
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:30,000
You know.

1973
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:32,000
Boating frequency.

1974
02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:39,000
Yeah, but I'm I think it was a pretty obvious discussion on council with that was unpopular.

1975
02:53:39,000 --> 02:53:44,000
It's a sort of individual decision, but I did reach out to several.

1976
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:48,000
People that either on boards or just citizens and ask them.

1977
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:53,000
There are opinions on these three sub these three topics of the first one being the professional membership

1978
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:56,000
of the second one being the volunteer.

1979
02:53:56,000 --> 02:53:57,000
Act serious suspicion.

1980
02:53:57,000 --> 02:54:01,000
And the third one being they're, you know, getting all their social media.

1981
02:54:01,000 --> 02:54:05,000
Platforms, handles, handles, and blah, blah, blah.

1982
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:07,000
And, uh, to use the same term.

1983
02:54:07,000 --> 02:54:09,000
And, um, I think it's.

1984
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:11,000
I mean, what do you talk to you about?

1985
02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:12,000
Detailed engine.

1986
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:13,000
You would say you'll never live it down.

1987
02:54:13,000 --> 02:54:14,000
It'll be a few years.

1988
02:54:14,000 --> 02:54:15,000
Yeah.

1989
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:17,000
And I will say I was a little surprised.

1990
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:19,000
Most of the people, I'd say two thirds of the people.

1991
02:54:19,000 --> 02:54:22,000
Roughly that liked the.

1992
02:54:22,000 --> 02:54:25,000
The professional memberships and volunteer parts.

1993
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:31,000
But they kind of just thought, why don't you just ask people to attach a resume or.

1994
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:37,000
They felt like that's our most people would already do that if they had it.

1995
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:42,000
Um, the other third on those that weren't in like that were kind of more like, you know,

1996
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:47,000
these are volunteer boards and it's hard enough as it is to get people so don't make it any harder.

1997
02:54:47,000 --> 02:54:50,000
We already do background checks and blah, blah, blah.

1998
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:54,000
Um, on the last one, the social media, it was just pretty much everybody was, you know,

1999
02:54:54,000 --> 02:54:55,000
they didn't like it.

2000
02:54:55,000 --> 02:54:59,000
I don't see how the opposite reaction when I've done my own informal survey.

2001
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:00,000
You haven't caught mine if you want.

2002
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:01,000
And that's fine.

2003
02:55:01,000 --> 02:55:02,000
I don't need it.

2004
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:03,000
Yeah.

2005
02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:07,000
I see it as a best practice that's being used elsewhere and I.

2006
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:09,000
It's actually not being used anywhere else.

2007
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:12,000
That was one of the reports that we got back from.

2008
02:55:12,000 --> 02:55:13,000
From Penny.

2009
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:14,000
Okay.

2010
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:15,000
Well, I like it anywhere.

2011
02:55:15,000 --> 02:55:17,000
I like it anyway.

2012
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:19,000
I, you know, I.

2013
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:23,000
We do ask a lot of information, you know, but.

2014
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:25,000
Our.

2015
02:55:25,000 --> 02:55:27,000
Our boards are.

2016
02:55:27,000 --> 02:55:31,000
And commissions are truly, truly voluntary.

2017
02:55:31,000 --> 02:55:32,000
There's no.

2018
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:34,000
Great prestige.

2019
02:55:34,000 --> 02:55:38,000
And, you know, as in the state where, you know, being.

2020
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,000
Being on it.

2021
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:44,000
So it's, you know, I ask in any more.

2022
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:48,000
I'm from our citizens to, you know, I have to put everything down.

2023
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:49,000
I don't know.

2024
02:55:49,000 --> 02:55:50,000
You know, I'm.

2025
02:55:53,000 --> 02:55:54,000
I think we.

2026
02:55:54,000 --> 02:55:57,000
I don't know if we need to change anything.

2027
02:55:57,000 --> 02:55:58,000
This kind of.

2028
02:55:58,000 --> 02:55:59,000
My thoughts.

2029
02:55:59,000 --> 02:56:00,000
One part.

2030
02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:03,000
One person on the social media part said it's actually kind of interesting.

2031
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:05,000
Take anything about this.

2032
02:56:05,000 --> 02:56:09,000
But if you do require it, they will go scrub it.

2033
02:56:10,000 --> 02:56:12,000
Make a scrub it for the appointment.

2034
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:15,000
If you don't ask for it, you can go look it out.

2035
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:18,000
Interesting.

2036
02:56:18,000 --> 02:56:20,000
Okay. Well, I'm.

2037
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:22,000
I think we can leave her be for now.

2038
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:23,000
I.

2039
02:56:23,000 --> 02:56:27,000
I think there was better momentum on it, but I think we left it so long that it kind of died out.

2040
02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:30,000
So unless there's any motions on it, we'll.

2041
02:56:30,000 --> 02:56:32,000
Maybe bring it back another time.

2042
02:56:32,000 --> 02:56:34,000
Okay.

2043
02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:35,000
Okay.

2044
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:43,000
I don't think we have anything else at this point.

2045
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:46,000
We see.

2046
02:56:46,000 --> 02:56:47,000
All right.

2047
02:56:47,000 --> 02:56:50,000
For the third time tonight, please recall.

2048
02:56:50,000 --> 02:56:51,000
The executive session.

2049
02:56:51,000 --> 02:56:53,000
And that's entirety, please.

2050
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:54,000
I think we're.

2051
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:56,000
We're not going to do closing comments first.

2052
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:57,000
Well, no, we have.

2053
02:56:57,000 --> 02:56:59,000
We're going to have to come back out.

2054
02:56:59,000 --> 02:57:00,000
So.

2055
02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:03,000
If you have a closing comment, now that's fine, but we have more meetings.

2056
02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:04,000
Okay.

2057
02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:08,000
After five weeks, we're in agreement because the city council will now be in a closing

2058
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:09,000
executive session.

2059
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:10,000
For so much of the following visions of the text.

2060
02:57:10,000 --> 02:57:11,000
We'll meet yet.

2061
02:57:11,000 --> 02:57:12,000
Section five.

2062
02:57:12,000 --> 02:57:13,000
To one point.

2063
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:14,000
Oh, seven.

2064
02:57:14,000 --> 02:57:16,000
One.

2065
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:17,000
One.

2066
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:18,000
One.

2067
02:57:18,000 --> 02:57:19,000
Four.

2068
02:57:19,000 --> 02:57:20,000
Five.

2069
02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:21,000
One.

2070
02:57:21,000 --> 02:57:22,000
Four.

2071
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:23,000
Four.

2072
02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:24,000
Four.

2073
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:25,000
Four.

2074
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:26,000
Four.

2075
02:57:26,000 --> 02:57:27,000
Four.

2076
02:57:27,000 --> 02:57:28,000
Four.

2077
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:29,000
Four.

2078
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:30,000
Four.

2079
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:31,000
Four.

2080
02:57:31,000 --> 02:57:32,000
Four.

2081
02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:36,000
Eight.

2082
02:57:36,000 --> 02:57:37,000
But.

2083
02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:38,000
Three.

2084
02:57:38,000 --> 02:57:39,000
Read.

2085
02:57:39,000 --> 02:57:40,000
Read.

2086
02:57:40,000 --> 02:57:41,380
Press Center as if anything on items discussion

2087
02:57:41,380 --> 02:57:43,500
inviting you, session.

2088
02:57:43,500 --> 02:57:44,000
Two.

2089
02:57:44,000 --> 02:57:46,000
See has re-called executive session.

2090
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:49,500
Is that mine, OK?

2091
02:57:49,500 --> 02:57:53,000
I'd like to make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute the memor rather

2092
02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:58,000
window of understanding with text dot concerning transfer of us 1803.

2093
02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:02,000
Right of way associated with the bill by the violent project.

2094
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:10,000
Second. Motion in a second, any discussion? Hearing none, those in favor say aye. Aye.

2095
02:58:10,000 --> 02:58:15,000
Opposed? No? Motion carries. Anything else? Nothing, furthermore. Thank you very much.

2096
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:24,000
I don't have, sorry. Excuse me up to date on the screen. Please call. Sorry?

2097
02:58:24,000 --> 02:58:31,000
I usually cheat off the screen each time. Mary, how's the closing comments?

2098
02:58:31,000 --> 02:58:41,000
Did you have closing comments? I did. I've been anticipated. I'd like to have an agenda item for the next one to nominate Ramonocar as my 4B appointee.

2099
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:43,000
Okay.

2100
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:51,000
So, late one, let's get job everyone.

2101
02:58:51,000 --> 02:58:53,000
Okay.

2102
02:58:53,000 --> 02:58:54,000
Okay.