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[0:00] In accordance with chapter 5, to one of the government code, the city council will now convene in a closed executive session, pursuant to the following provisions of the Texas open meeting.
[0:28] Section 5 to 1.071, Section 1 and 2, 5 to 2.072, 5 to 1.074, 5 to 1.087, in accordance with agenda items B1, A through B, B2, A through E, B3, A, B4, A through B and B5, A.
[0:46] The council will briefly recess before recommitting an executive session.
[0:58] We will reconvene and move into the open meeting portion, and we will begin with the indication.
[1:23] The council member, boarder.
[1:25] The captain, Roger Wilson, who will be the implication this evening.
[1:30] So please all stand.
[1:38] Shall we pray? Our most gracious Heavenly Father, we humbly bow our heads and honor and gratitude for your mercy.
[1:47] Your unfailing love toward us and your personal blessings upon everyone here this evening.
[1:53] Everyone here was born in original, far from being average and ordinary.
[1:59] God, we are your highest creation, fearfully and wonderfully made.
[2:04] Your workmanship is marvelous. You knew all the days of our lives before we began to breathe.
[2:11] How precious are your thoughts about us.
[2:15] Father, you earned a transform us into amazing human beings who can love each other with genuine affection and take delight in honoring each other.
[2:24] Lord, we live in such a chaotic world. Many times our hearts are so troubled and weary.
[2:31] Give us forgiving hearts because you have forgiven us.
[2:35] Only you can help us to choose to be patient and kind in challenging situations.
[2:42] And to do our best to live in harmony and peace with each other.
[2:46] Help us to choose to reach out to those around us who seem to be struggling along the pathway of life.
[2:52] And this great wonderful, amazing world in which we live with our families.
[2:57] We ask Father that you give our mayor, city manager, city council members, your wisdom.
[3:04] Please help them use their God-given gifts and talents for your glory.
[3:09] Give them courage and integrity.
[3:12] Help them lead us honor and bless them as they serve to the best of their ability.
[3:18] Help us not to worry about anything instead pray about everything.
[3:23] Let everyone see that we are in considerate in all we do.
[3:27] Help each of us to fix our thoughts and what is true, honourable, right, pure, lovely and admirable.
[3:36] Father, please watch over and protect all of our first responders and their families.
[3:41] Fire, police, emergency medical services.
[3:45] And those serving a military around the world as we speak.
[3:48] May the God of peace be with each of us.
[3:51] And may He bless this great nation.
[3:54] We ask all of this in the marvelous, powerful, life-transforming name of our Heavenly Father, amen.
[4:06] Do you want us for the pledges?
[4:08] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
[4:13] And to the Republic for which stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[4:22] Honor of the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas, one state under God, one indivisible.
[4:32] I pledge allegiance to the Texas flag, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God, one state under God.
[4:43] Thank you for taking care of us.
[5:03] There's a lot of microphones on there.
[5:08] We'll pick a heck of a meeting to do this.
[5:13] So welcome.
[5:15] So the key to the city is the highest honor that the city council can
[5:22] can be so on someone and it's generally made for service to the city
[5:28] that is really above and beyond.
[5:31] I first, of course, became acquainted with Rick McLaughlin
[5:36] in his white market.
[5:39] Many years ago when Cedar Park Center was a now H&D Center
[5:43] at Cedar Park City, to get an idea to make that production.
[5:47] When Cedar Park Center was an idea and Rick was the
[5:51] designate on the star side to really figure out a way
[5:55] to make the building work.
[5:58] Fast forward to many years later that building is really a great
[6:03] success of one of the great crangles of the city.
[6:06] And Rick recently retired.
[6:09] It's not only the president of the hockey team.
[6:12] It is the general manager of the facility.
[6:15] And the seat of the facility today.
[6:19] And it's very fine.
[6:21] A position is very much due to the efforts of Rick.
[6:27] Under suit from the beginning that this was going to, that this was a public asset.
[6:31] But he brought the expertise from the private side and
[6:35] really making everything go.
[6:37] Rick has had a very distinguished career prior to the joining of Cedar
[6:41] and Cedar Park.
[6:42] Your name is all in the Stanley Cup twice, I believe.
[6:45] It was a Pittsburgh and it was with Dallas.
[6:48] And it had a really remarkable career.
[6:51] And I think that we're all very fortunate here in Cedar Park
[6:55] that this venture that we began many years ago with the building had
[7:03] someone with the leadership and the foresight of Rick and Longland.
[7:08] Rick, you took a project.
[7:10] It's not just really competitive.
[7:12] And you really made it go from your insight during the construction on what sort of
[7:17] pandemics and how we were going to track those events.
[7:21] So later on the partnership with the city.
[7:24] Because it really is a partnership.
[7:26] And you're always a dream to work with.
[7:28] And you took a very large public asset and it's very, very successful
[7:33] for Cedar Park residents for it.
[7:35] So for these reasons and more.
[7:37] You know, on the help celebrate your retirement.
[7:40] We certainly mentioned that we celebrate all the years that we had.
[7:44] We are very, very honored to present you with the pieces of Cedar Park.
[7:49] Thank you.
[7:50] Thank you.
[8:21] Thank you.
[8:26] Cedar, thank you.
[8:28] This is the time on the meeting for residents to visit with the council about items that are not posted
[8:33] for for public comment.
[8:36] We asked you to keep your comments to three minutes.
[8:39] We have several cards.
[8:42] Which I will begin making my way through.
[8:46] Just as a reminder, I know that a lot of folks are here for a highly charged emotional issue.
[8:53] And just as a reminder for how we generally like to do things around here.
[8:57] Let's keep all of our comments.
[8:59] Respectful and in keeping with the the idea of sharing information.
[9:06] So with that said, the first card I have is Anne Coil.
[9:11] Can you follow up by Jesse Mayhand.
[9:20] Thank you.
[9:21] Is there a clock that I can.
[9:23] Yeah, there will be up there.
[9:26] Thank you.
[9:27] Okay, great.
[9:28] Thank you.
[9:29] My name is Anne Coil.
[9:31] I've had been here for about five years and had various interactions with the Cedar Park Police
[9:34] Department in response to helping clients of mine and various aspects.
[9:40] I have to say here when I first heard about the meeting earlier this morning.
[9:44] I got online.
[9:45] I looked at the agenda.
[9:46] And I saw that there was nothing on the agenda for open comment about the police to for police force.
[9:52] I did notice that there was something in a close meeting that was going to be discussed.
[9:56] So you can imagine my surprise when a hundred seat auditorium is filled with a hundred or so police officers.
[10:03] That's quite disturbing.
[10:05] And I think that if the combined intelligence of the city council doesn't recognize that for what it is,
[10:12] that I think the citizens of Cedar Park may have some rethinking to do when they go to vote during the next selection.
[10:21] And this is let me tell you what I see here.
[10:24] What I see here and this is not what I plan to say.
[10:27] What I see here is something that obviously was a close meeting,
[10:32] meaning the public does not have a right to know what was discussed,
[10:36] concerning whatever it was about the Cedar Park Police Department.
[10:40] But obviously it's very clear that the Cedar Park law enforcement community does have the right to know.
[10:47] And they are here.
[10:48] And so I think the citizens of Cedar Park should process that.
[10:52] And a city council should process that as well.
[10:55] That's disturbing.
[10:57] The other part that's disturbing is that I'm imagining that since there's communication devices on most of these uniforms that most of them are on the clock,
[11:07] which means the citizens of Cedar Park are paying for them to be here,
[11:11] which is a message that they are sending in their solidarity.
[11:15] They're sending a message to the citizens of Cedar Park that they would rather take their money to be here to show an armed source of force of solidarity.
[11:26] OK, rather than take the citizens money to be out interfacing with the community and serving and protecting the community.
[11:34] Now, I have had interaction with many of the police officers at Cedar Park,
[11:39] and I'm not trying to disparage those individuals.
[11:42] What I'm talking about is this specific act here, because that gets us into the next thing,
[11:48] which I did want to talk about, which is it takes a certain confidence as relative.
[11:55] Competence in a cashier is one thing, takes a different level of skill to be a competent police officer,
[12:01] and it takes a completely different level, higher level of confidence to be a leader of a police force,
[12:07] because that police force is made of humans who are inherently fallible.
[12:11] They will make flaws, their emotions may get the better of them sometimes,
[12:15] but that leader has to be more than just a nice guy.
[12:19] And a nice guy doesn't cut it because what you end up with when you have a nice guy who is leading them,
[12:27] you end up with people who are in jail, people who are let free, who are criminals,
[12:32] and they victimize other people.
[12:34] That's a very important issue.
[12:36] Thank you very much.
[12:37] Thank you for your time.
[12:39] This may hand, followed by Michael Apalia.
[12:42] And by the way, I apologize in advance if I brutalize anyone's names.
[12:46] It's not intentional.
[12:48] Good evening.
[12:49] First off, when I think everybody for allowing us to speak,
[12:52] I also want to thank the police force for showing up.
[12:56] I can only assume reading the core values and the mission statement,
[13:02] which outline accountability and how they'll hold each one of their own to be accountable
[13:07] that they're here to hold their officers accountable,
[13:11] and not to defend incompetence.
[13:14] I'm going to read just a small passage that was in print here the last few days.
[13:21] Speaking of Texas Ranger Cody Mitchell, who asked to witness to last week,
[13:27] he spoke on the stand concerning the behavior and conduct of Sergeant Daley,
[13:33] who is the head of all investigations in the city of Cedar Park.
[13:38] Mr. Mitchell said,
[13:41] It is actually frightened him if he were to be accused of a crime in the city of Cedar Park.
[13:47] I would be scared to think that I could be in the same position.
[13:51] Basic elements of investigation such as visiting the crime scene, taking pictures,
[13:56] interviewing possible witnesses, looking for corroborative evidence, were missed.
[14:02] Knowing some way to be could be charged, tried and imprisoned based on such minimal evidence as disturbing he said.
[14:10] Cedar Park, please chief, has repeatedly said he supports the detectives work.
[14:17] So once again, I would like to request the termination of chief manics and Sergeant Daley,
[14:25] based on their behavior.
[14:27] I believe there's enough information out in the public domain at this point to grade them on.
[14:34] I have emailed the council. I did receive one reply from Mr. Arsdale and I appreciate that Mr. Arsdale.
[14:42] And it seemed as though the council was going to be in a holding pattern or awaiting some type of process.
[14:50] I would like to know exactly what that process is and what you guys are looking for.
[14:55] What levels of incompetence.
[15:00] And that's what we'd like to know as citizens. And once again, I would like to thank all the police officers for coming out and hope that they're planning on holding their own accountable as it says in the mission statement and core values which I'll have associate reading here in a moment based on time. Thank you.
[15:26] Thank you very much. And anyone is allowed to speak, but if you wouldn't mind just everyone just kind of sharing, you know, at least what city you live in.
[15:34] Mayor, if I can jump in here, I'd like to clarify the city's policy in this council's authority with respect to personnel matters.
[15:42] They're generally administrative in nature and those are within the purview of the city manager miss Evans, not the city council, you guys don't have authority over personnel matters.
[15:50] So basically we don't have the authority to turn anyone beyond really the two of you.
[15:58] You have authority over miss Evans and myself as employees of the city, but no other personnel.
[16:02] Thank you. And Ms. Quail, you're a resident of the Anders, that's right.
[16:08] Okay. And Mr. Mayan, George Champs.
[16:14] Yes, sir. Again, anyone's welcome to speak at our meeting.
[16:17] No. No, I do business in Cedar Park. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Mr. Bolipalia.
[16:23] Followed by Ms. Brimberry.
[16:28] Well, sir. Good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak Mayor and city council members.
[16:35] I grew up in this city. I'm the now a resident of Austin, Texas in the Standard Ranch area. I grew up here for 20 years, went to Leander High School.
[16:45] I want to start by saying this is not I am not here in any way shape or form as an attack on the Cedar Park police.
[16:55] My grandfather was a police officer for 40 years.
[16:59] I have family members who are who have served in protecting and do it well and do the job well.
[17:04] I know the responsibility and the burden that the job carries and I do very much appreciate what you guys do.
[17:12] That being said, what we saw testified to last week.
[17:17] What we saw Williamson County District Attorney Shondick say publicly that he called the Cedar Park Police investigation
[17:27] in the criminal justice system in this case as a whole, a catastrophic failure.
[17:31] I would have to 100% agree with that. And I would hope that you guys would agree with that.
[17:37] Mrs. Evans, I hope that you will take your chair and take this opportunity for accountability.
[17:45] Like Jesse said, what level of incompetence merits determination?
[17:50] We have a leader of the Cedar Park Police who called Sergeant Daily's work.
[17:56] Some of the best police work he's ever seen. He called our group a cult.
[18:02] He attacked. He did personal attacks. He took part on Twitter on Jesse personally on personal attacks on Twitter.
[18:09] You're chief of police. You have Sergeant Daily. He was promoted since this case to the head of investigations.
[18:19] He is now in charge of all investigations. If I understand correctly for Cedar Park.
[18:23] And he didn't even show up to the crime scene.
[18:26] He took any pictures from what I understand. He made two phone calls, made an assumption on a young man facing 25 years to life.
[18:36] And it was on the prosecution team. It was a member of the prosecution team for Williamson County that said that asked him to point blank while he was on the stand.
[18:45] Sir, do you know the golden rule? I don't think he knew.
[18:49] And then he said, found in Matthew 7, you know, do unto others as you would want done unto you.
[18:56] That was not done. And we as the citizens and as the people, we appreciate this opportunity.
[19:04] We appreciate the responsibility. We appreciate the responsibility that you all have.
[19:09] But this is an opportunity for accountability and get things right.
[19:13] And I really sincerely hope that we take it. Thank you.
[19:19] Ms. Brimberry followed by Ms. Kelly.
[19:27] Hello and good evening. My name is Pam Brimberry. I was a resident of Cedar Park for 20 years.
[19:33] And was at the time of Greg Kelly's conviction and incarceration.
[19:39] I'm currently a resident in logo visit Texas.
[19:42] I'm a small business owner and started that business in Cedar Park and still have clients in this area.
[19:48] I would like to read the mission and core values of the Cedar Park Police Department to enhance the quality of life in the city through a proactive and professional level of police service to maintain a strong commitment to excellence
[20:01] to ensure safety through integrity, trust and accountability to treat all persons with respect, dignity and equality
[20:09] and to build partnerships with the community to meet current and future challenges while staying true to our core values, life, law, integrity, accountability, service, community partnerships and excellence.
[20:23] Core values, life, we hold the preservation of life as our sacred duty.
[20:30] Law, we recognize our fundamental responsibility to obey and enforce the law with fairness, equality and without bias.
[20:37] Integrity, we accept nothing less than truth, honesty, integrity and consistent, high standards of moral and ethical conduct, accountability.
[20:46] We believe our actions and decisions are accountable to each other in the community we serve.
[20:51] Service, we are dedicated to courteous, compassionate, and effective service to our community.
[20:57] Community partnerships, we rely on essential community partnerships to exchange ideas and anticipate problems from out prevention and create awareness in an effort to reduce crime.
[21:07] Excellence, we strive for excellence through a continuous improvement for suit of knowledge, attention to detail and vision for the future.
[21:13] And I would just like to say that based on witnessing Greg's trial and witnessing the hearing that was held last week that these core values in this mission statement was were not appealed by officer, then detective daily and now sergeant daily.
[21:29] It was upsetting to hear him admit over and over again that he violated department procedures.
[21:36] It was upsetting that he failed department procedures by interrogating the child walking into the interview with his gun and questioning him deleting emails from the police department and from the CPS agent and that those were both deleted and unavailable from the server was concerning.
[21:58] Also, he went ask what the ultimate goal of an investigation is.
[22:06] He immediately said successful prosecution.
[22:10] He was an interested in the truth and it was obvious from the result of his investigation.
[22:16] I thank you for your time. I thank the Cedar Park Police Department.
[22:19] I hope you all will hold officer daily accountable and I hope that you will also hold the leadership of the Cedar Park Police Department accountable for endorsing and commending this behavior.
[22:31] Thank you very much.
[22:33] Ms. Kelly, followed by Mr. Smith.
[22:50] Good evening to everybody. My name is Rosa Kelly.
[22:56] I am the mother of Greg Kelly. I'm just here tonight present to share with you my pain and my concerns.
[23:08] Probably most of us, we are parents. Young people probably parents of small children.
[23:18] I've been in this community for 25 years, over 25 years.
[23:24] I live between Cedar Park and Leanne for the years.
[23:29] I try not to see the scene of Lago Bista.
[23:32] But my concern to work community is in is why I'm present here to make sure to let you know how painful it is.
[23:46] For a young man with so many dreams to achieve, a young man that was in high school,
[24:04] is trying to be the best in academics, academics, the best student and most of all a good friend and a good leader in our community.
[24:23] My son Greg was sentenced to 25 years of impression for a crime he didn't commit.
[24:32] And all this is start because it was none investigation.
[24:40] I wasn't shocked the last three days we spent in court to hear.
[24:52] How that happened to hear that the investigators supposed to do his job and he did not perform nothing.
[25:05] I always wonder and long time when this happened when he's going to come to my house.
[25:14] He is for the curiosity to know me, to the curiosity where Greg or Ikelli grew up, who we are as a citizens never.
[25:28] He never came to my house and not the door. He never called to our phones. He never interviewed my son.
[25:37] What type of what he really, he has is a title.
[25:48] Investigate it now he's a sergeant because he's been promoted because he's good work.
[25:54] I just want to ask you.
[25:57] I have the ability if there's no objection from the council to extend time for one minute.
[26:02] I apologize to other speakers because I probably will keep this moving but unless there's any objection.
[26:08] I'd like to give Ms. Kelly one additional minute.
[26:10] I appreciate. Thank you very much.
[26:12] At this time, I want to ask for the termination of chief manics in the termination of Chris Daley.
[26:30] Because I see the silver-part police force here.
[26:38] And to tell you that truth when I had my small business in the past, I have costumers.
[26:49] Can we police officers, sergeants?
[26:54] And it's great. I remember my costumers how kind, how fine, how good men they were.
[27:08] What I'm looking for is for the dirty for the ones that are corrupt.
[27:17] And the police forces to yes step out because you are valuable.
[27:26] And you have to shine when you do your work right.
[27:32] And we as a community appreciate you but the ones are bringing mud to the police force.
[27:44] Are the ones are making problems.
[27:47] As a community, I invite everybody to stand up and let's go fight this.
[27:54] Not just for my son for all kids.
[27:58] And I thank you for your time and I just really looking for the moment that I have my son back.
[28:10] Thank you so much.
[28:12] Mr. Smith followed by Mr. Young.
[28:27] Good evening, Mayor and council members and see you, Mayor.
[28:30] My name is Scott Smith. I'm a president of Cedar Park.
[28:33] I'm a branch of Russian Creek.
[28:36] One thing on the, that was brought up at the three four B meeting.
[28:41] It's very dear to my heart as getting Palmer Lane expanded.
[28:46] As I sat on Monday night for 45 minutes to drive 2.2 miles.
[28:51] It's not too pleasant.
[28:54] Our neighbors to the south have granted $17 million.
[28:59] So hopefully we can pony up the money with the state and use our political.
[29:06] Mustard to get that done instead of 2021, which is projected to start.
[29:11] I would hate to know what the fall of 2021 will look like with construction with all the houses built north of us.
[29:18] On to the Kelly situation, Greg Kelly.
[29:21] I do not know Greg Kelly. I'm not part of this.
[29:25] I wasn't even living in Sierra Park. I follow the case.
[29:29] I look back on my life. I'm almost 45.
[29:33] And I kind of look back and say that I had a, a,
[29:37] to kill a mockingbar, bird kind of life.
[29:40] My father was a former prosecutor in my home county. He grew up there.
[29:45] Practice law. His good friends were detectives and sheriff's and police officers.
[29:51] I worked for his law firm. I was in the courthouse every day. I knew the judges.
[29:55] I knew the, the police department, the law firm.
[30:00] I did criminal work. Later in life, when I was a boy scout, my father arranged me to go to police station and actually see what the jail looked like.
[30:11] I was in LA in 92 and that riots erupted. I was at Universal Studios. I saw this structure.
[30:21] I was taking a class in college in the summer of 1994 and social problems. You remember that was the summer of OJ Simpson.
[30:30] And I had a very eccentric professor. We had a maximum security prison that he taught at and he had the opportunity to give us an opportunity if we want to spend three hours over class time that summer in itself locked.
[30:46] That'll change a little bit. Later in my career, I worked in justice. I don't have a justice background. One of my clients is out Los Angeles Police Department.
[30:58] And one of the modules I built for their teams too, which is a system that was basically brought in after the justice degree, track lawsuits.
[31:09] And my main concern is we have two attorneys as we have a liability. And I really don't want my tax dollars to be settling lawsuits.
[31:18] There's better uses like Palmer Lane. Thank you for your time.
[31:24] Mr. Young followed by Mr. Anderson.
[31:35] Mayor City Council City Manager. I'd like to make a short statement. My name is Dean Young. I'm the president of the Cedar Park Business Police Academy Alumni Association.
[31:45] Our organization provides volunteers and works very closely with the Cedar Park Police Department.
[31:51] All of its staff, its command staff, its police chief and its officers.
[31:56] We have received about 110% support on all the programs that we've run from our chief of police.
[32:04] Our command staff, our police officers, our police department, the City of Cedar Park and the community.
[32:11] And I want to thank you for allowing me the opportunity to say that. Thank you very much.
[32:16] Thank you, Mr. Young. Mr. Anderson followed by Mr. Reagan.
[32:27] First of all, I'd like to thank you for allowing me to give up and speak. I didn't realize I'm speaking tonight, but it's important.
[32:35] Coach and Todd here at Leander High School for 30 years worked with many of these guys and different people have come through the program.
[32:41] And it's at the high school my wife did the dance team for 28 years. Our daughter, her boyfriend's Greg Kelly.
[32:50] And I'm going to tell you something just what I've witnessed and what I've been a part of.
[32:56] My heart's been broken.
[32:59] The Kelly's family's been broken. It started with a perfect storm. The perfect storm was a poured DA and so many other things that were going on where they were just willing to prosecute.
[33:11] We heard earlier that when Sergeant Daley was asked, what's that great investigation come to look like?
[33:19] It's a successful prosecution.
[33:23] One thing I've learned in just teaching people and just working with people is it's so important to understand and also seek truth.
[33:31] There's nothing better than a person every human being wants this. They want to feel significance.
[33:36] It's so important if you love.
[33:38] If you don't take time to get to know who each other are, how can we do that? That didn't happen in this case.
[33:44] It became the perfect storm. Great story. These cameras. They took light to it.
[33:50] You know, football player, captain of football team. All of a sudden with a poor investigation, it gets out there. The charges made.
[33:59] After the charges made, then all of a sudden it just became this wild, circus.
[34:07] Greg Kelly, basically, was taken down. It was named Pedophile.
[34:11] I'll tell you right now, Greg has a hard of goal. He doesn't have anger and there are some people sitting in here that actually prosecuted him.
[34:20] I actually saw a video that said, pray for G.K., and they were laughing and smiling as they pointed toward the camera and pointed and laughing about it.
[34:29] To me, that's not professionalism.
[34:32] Shamanics. There were many comments that were made about Greg before it ever even had his chance in court saying that at a four year old,
[34:41] don't make this stuff up. He didn't ever went to, and never was in the court at that time.
[34:47] And he goes on and on and on. And it also, one of your own people here took the report said,
[34:53] it's a lie 12th that happened. It happened on July 12th. And then while on the stand, the next person was your sergeant,
[35:02] they asked him, when did it happen? What happened between June, December, and June? Why?
[35:09] Because they found out that Greg Kelly wasn't in the house on July 12th. He moved out early June.
[35:15] If they had taken the time to look into the case, they'd have found that there was a lot more stuff that you could find.
[35:20] In fact, we knew a lot of stuff, but I had no credibility that the police at that time, I hadn't had any faith.
[35:26] We had information, but there's no way I was going to share that with him because I didn't think it would even even look at it properly.
[35:33] So anyway, I really truly asked, please look at these guys.
[35:38] You're your chief, and also your sergeant.
[35:44] And it's nothing gives me assuming things we all make mistakes, but I'm going to tell you what happened. We have to be accountable.
[35:49] When you have too much power, and you have too much strength, it becomes control.
[35:54] So accountability is important. Thank you for your time.
[35:57] Thank you, Mr. Anderson.
[35:58] Mr. Regan, followed by Ms. Whitley.
[36:04] Good evening. Thank you for your time.
[36:07] I'm here as a concerned citizen of Cedar Park to request the termination of Sean Manix and Chris Daily.
[36:14] I believe that there's been a void of leadership that is causing the Cedar Park Police Department to spin out of control a little bit.
[36:22] Aside from the obvious deficiencies that happened at the Greg Kelly case, I have personally had an experience with the police department that makes me question their leadership.
[36:32] My daughter was pulled over for a registration violation six weeks ago.
[36:37] And during that time, she was asked if they could search her car. She declined.
[36:42] They pulled her out of her car, made her sit on the car for 20 minutes while the drug dog team showed up.
[36:48] The drug team searched her car and they said that the dog indicated, although no drugs were found in her car.
[36:56] No part of paraphernalia whatsoever.
[36:58] During that search, though, they did find an ID that did not belong to her.
[37:03] The police officers lied to her and told her that was a felony and that she could be arrested for that and that they would come to her work and arrest her.
[37:13] If she did not cooperate with them and work as a drug informant with the police department.
[37:21] So on top of lying to her, they also blackmailed her, I believe.
[37:26] At that time, we invoked our right to counsel and a couple of days later after we invoked our right to counsel.
[37:33] The officer in question contacted my daughter, which I'm not lawyer, but I believe that is a violation of her civil rights.
[37:42] So, like I said, aside from the Greg Kelly situation, which is obviously a huge deficiency in leadership, I believe it's causing more and more problems as time goes on.
[37:56] Very unhappy with the way she was treated in the way Greg was treated as well.
[38:00] There's a lot of good police officers, I know that, but I know accountability starts at the top and we need a change in leadership in the police department.
[38:09] Thank you very much.
[38:10] Thank you Mr. Regent.
[38:12] Ms. Whitley, followed by Ms. Martin.
[38:25] Good evening members of City Council, our City Manager, and our community.
[38:30] I'm Christy Whitley, the President of the Cedar Park Police Association.
[38:34] The minimum women of the Cedar Park Police Association stand before you tonight, voluntarily and off duty.
[38:40] In support of our community and our members, our department and our chief, Sean Manix.
[38:46] As the police officers for this great city, we strive to make Cedar Park the safest city for both our citizens and those visiting.
[38:53] While accomplishing this, we're often tasked with investigating the unimaginable and in the process of handling these delicate situations, it is necessary.
[39:03] And reassuring to know that we have the support of our leaders.
[39:07] Chief Manix is a true example of someone who works tirelessly to lead and support the men and women of our department.
[39:13] His dedication and endless commitment goes above and beyond many others in the state.
[39:19] Law enforcement is quite often scrutinized in a number of situations that are publicized in a way that attracts the attention to particular side or cause.
[39:29] The professional with wisdom of a police officer and their department are often attacked.
[39:34] When these circumstances cannot be immediately addressed or discussed due to the sensitivity of the investigation or the rules of law.
[39:42] As members of our police department, we do not allow controversy or criticism to interfere with the professionalism and integrity necessary to carry out our duties for those we serve.
[39:55] The men and women of the Cedar Park police association ask the council and city manager.
[40:00] And the community to continue and support us in the same unbiased and transparent manner in which we protect you.
[40:08] Thank you for your time tonight and God bless.
[40:10] Thank you very much.
[40:11] Ms. Martin.
[40:12] Okay, sorry guys, I'm not here to talk about the police.
[40:24] I appreciate you.
[40:26] Love y'all.
[40:27] I'm here to talk about your trash department.
[40:29] I'm assuming that I'm assuming that when one of some media attention on it here.
[40:36] No.
[40:37] There you go.
[40:38] I'm assuming that we changed contracts with a new trash company because we're offered a contract at a lower bid to provide the same level of services as our old company.
[40:51] Well, that's not what we're getting.
[40:53] Our old company had one guy on a truck.
[40:56] No matter what was on that curb, that guy would pick it up.
[40:59] Take it off.
[41:00] I've even seen him back up halfway down the street because someone was late getting their garbage out.
[41:04] Help the man with his trash.
[41:06] Our new guys.
[41:08] They are not giving the same standard of services at all.
[41:11] In fact, maybe six weeks ago, published in our local paper.
[41:16] I live in Cedar Park here.
[41:18] Yeah, we're going to have a bumpier container and pick up any two items.
[41:23] Let me repeat that any two extra items.
[41:27] That's a reduction in service.
[41:28] Okay, I can do that.
[41:30] This week I got no service.
[41:33] Yes, I had some additional bags on the street.
[41:37] But the guys can buy.
[41:40] Look at my can.
[41:42] Throw off and lift everything.
[41:44] Then any bump the can.
[41:45] Much less pick up to additional bags of trash.
[41:48] I call them up and say, hey, what's it deal?
[41:51] Her customer service rep says, oh, you had construction materials.
[41:55] Yeah, I had a couple of boards.
[41:57] I'll toss them a trash can from having a garage.
[42:00] That that qualifies is getting no service.
[42:04] So I'll call you guys.
[42:06] You can meet the number for manager at the company.
[42:09] So I'm guy named Ben.
[42:11] Ben don't answer his phone.
[42:13] Ben don't call you back.
[42:16] Where's Ben?
[42:18] I'm asking you guys to review this contract and check for all the other complaints
[42:24] against these guys.
[42:27] Because that's breach contract.
[42:30] I pay a monthly fee.
[42:32] That's breach contract.
[42:35] That wasn't excessive.
[42:36] My garbage can't enter on the side of the road.
[42:38] One must supposed to do a detract.
[42:40] So we've been out there for the records.
[42:42] Put it in a garage for the rats coming in.
[42:45] The sink is the sink right.
[42:48] And I appreciate you guys.
[42:50] Please look it over.
[42:51] Whoever's in charge of those contracts.
[42:54] You know, first of all, so you get the same set under the service.
[42:58] That's what we should get.
[43:00] I shouldn't have to be here.
[43:02] Y'all shouldn't have to listen to this.
[43:04] Somebody call this guy.
[43:05] Time to call me.
[43:07] Don't come pick up the garbage.
[43:09] We'll find Ben.
[43:10] Thank you.
[43:11] By the way.
[43:13] Thank you.
[43:14] Ms. Martin just to clarify.
[43:16] We've actually had the same trash provider for some time.
[43:18] The last time that they came in front of us for the contract.
[43:22] It was only because they were lowering their rate.
[43:24] But because of fuel stuff or whatever.
[43:27] But I'm going to have a staff member getting contracts with you.
[43:30] They actually have quite a bit of tracking stuff.
[43:32] And let's see if we can do a little deeper dive on this.
[43:34] Yeah.
[43:35] We went from one guy on a truck.
[43:36] Did a great job.
[43:37] Three guys on a truck.
[43:38] Don't do no job.
[43:39] We'll see if we can dig into it for you.
[43:41] Thank you.
[43:42] All right.
[43:45] With my thanks for for a very civil discussion.
[43:49] That concludes citizens communications.
[43:52] And thank you to everyone.
[43:55] I am actually going to be recalling the executive session.
[44:00] But after the comment was made,
[44:03] I want to make clear.
[44:05] Again, first, as was stated,
[44:07] we don't make those sort of personal decisions.
[44:10] But first, second, when discussions,
[44:14] it's very limited what we talk about in executive session.
[44:17] It's not like the secret meeting or anything.
[44:19] I remember when I first got on the city council,
[44:21] I was very disappointed when I went into my first executive session.
[44:24] Because I thought that's where the action would happen.
[44:26] And it turned out I was a lot of contracts and stuff.
[44:28] But because the conversation,
[44:32] what we do is our meetings starts.
[44:34] We try to knock it out before we start time.
[44:37] And if all of you know when to be here.
[44:39] And then if we, if we need to continue,
[44:41] we do it after the meeting.
[44:43] But had a couple of requests from the council that we were kind of stopped
[44:48] mid-conversation so that we could come out and begin the meeting.
[44:52] So with some apologies for those who are planning on
[44:55] sicking around for the whole meeting.
[44:57] We are going to briefly recall executive session.
[45:00] On one item, and then we'll come back and continue the meeting as posted on the agenda. So, if you would please call that, please.
[45:08] In, of course, the chapter 5 is to one of the government code, the city council will now convene in the closed executive session, pursuant to the following provisions of the Texas vote with meetings act. Section 5 is to 1.071, subsection 2, and accordance with the agenda item is B to D.
[45:22] The council will briefly recess before re-convening in an exact set.
[45:42] We will re-convene and call up item B to D.
[45:46] Local issues concerning the state of Texas vs. Gray Kelly, and meeting in the court of criminal pills in the 26th, judicial court of Williamson County, and the training policies, procedures in general orders of the State Department Police Department.
[46:02] All right. The city council has received numerous messages regarding the Kelly case.
[46:09] We're certainly watching the case closely, and of course, we'll continue to do so.
[46:13] At this time, obviously, the council is not able to comment on going legal proceedings.
[46:19] Let's not forget that a reprehensible crime has been committed against a child.
[46:24] So, our set-fast hope and belief that the legal system will continue to run its course to ensure swift and accurate justice.
[46:32] We trust the men and women of the Police Department and know that they stand ready to work with the DA's office on this in future cases.
[46:40] That being said, I will move to direct the city manager and city attorney for a recommendation as to how the city can move forward with an independent review of the Police Department's policies and procedures pursuant to governing law and civil service rules.
[46:58] Motion in a few seconds. Any discussion council?
[47:02] Hearing none, those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
[47:05] Opposed no. Motion carries, and you can bring us a report back on that when you're ready.
[47:11] All right. Thank you very much.
[47:13] We will get back in order here.
[47:20] Item C5.
[47:22] Any comments?
[47:24] Not very far along.
[47:26] No.
[47:28] All right.
[47:30] C6, please.
[47:31] A city manager report in relation to an update on the advanced metering infrastructure project.
[47:43] Council, Madame Bufquick, so if you have any questions, just stop and stop me as we go.
[47:48] A little update.
[47:49] The AMI project is a 20 FY 2016 project that won't stop 20 2000 hasn't stopped 20 2000.
[47:56] Advanced water meters also called smart meters.
[47:58] That project at this time, the meters have been installed.
[48:01] The fixed base communication system is up.
[48:03] The billing system integrations complete.
[48:05] Analytics is ready.
[48:06] The residential installations work complete on June 6.
[48:09] The portal configuration and testing is ready.
[48:11] What the next steps are is a public deployment.
[48:14] And then that's going to give you a little brief overview of what that looks like.
[48:18] Good evening, Mayor and Council.
[48:20] Hello.
[48:21] Many of you have seen this before.
[48:24] Just a brief reminder of what the customer portal will look like.
[48:27] This is a picture of the customer dashboard.
[48:30] It is a web-based program.
[48:32] There is no app that is needed.
[48:34] It can be accessed from any smart device.
[48:37] Probably not a flip phone.
[48:39] It offers a usage comparison of current billing cycle versus your last billing cycle.
[48:44] It allows for you to set alerts.
[48:47] We can push out notifications to residents.
[48:49] There is a little bit of a blank space there.
[48:51] That is for future development.
[48:53] We will have a customized watering schedule.
[48:55] And then also some information regarding billing tiers.
[48:59] This is an image from a smart phone.
[49:03] It depicts usage details.
[49:06] It displays hourly, daily, monthly or annual usage views of your choosing.
[49:11] It does overlay corresponding rainfall, temperature data by GPS locations.
[49:17] So the weather reporting station that's closest to you is where that information will come from.
[49:22] As far as usage alerts, currently we have a billing cycle alert that is setable by the customer.
[49:28] They can input the value that they choose to alert me when I reach X number of gallons this billing cycle.
[49:34] Same with a daily usage alert alert me when I use X number of gallons this on any particular day.
[49:40] And then also a vacation alert that you can set if you're not expecting any water to be used when you're expected to be away from home.
[49:46] It will alert you on that as well.
[49:50] As far as customer outreach, even though this will be an ongoing media campaign to our residents, we will have a fairly large media push starting on Monday.
[50:02] And it will run through October, like I said it will be ongoing after that.
[50:06] Our plan for outreach is social media, Facebook, Twitter posts, press releases, community impact mailers, which will be the direct mail piece.
[50:17] Resident newsletter, billing inserts and YouTube videos and advertising.
[50:22] And with that, if you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.
[50:26] Any questions, council?
[50:28] This is just everything that you guys said it would be a more.
[50:32] So thank you very much.
[50:34] I'm looking forward to seeing you.
[50:36] Thank you so much.
[50:38] C7.
[50:40] A city manager report for an update on the Cedar Park Police Fleet Vehicles.
[50:44] Mr. Austria.
[50:46] You bet.
[50:48] My department is a fleet maintenance department.
[50:50] I thought it was appropriate time to give you a little update.
[50:52] It's been quite a bit of media about calling on oxide leaking in the forward explorers,
[50:56] like Ford Interceptors, platforms.
[51:00] Specifically, we're talking about the model year 20, 2011 to the current.
[51:04] Currently, the city has 39 of these police cars.
[51:07] 12 are civilian and marked cars.
[51:09] 27 are the police interceptors style.
[51:12] The action taken by Cedar Park so far is we have opened up investigation
[51:16] and discussion with Ford and the National Highway Safety Transportation Administration.
[51:24] They are the folks that would issue any type of recall.
[51:28] We also asked our fleet manager to continue with it.
[51:31] We're calling it enhanced routine inspection of the vehicles by certified EVT and ASC staff.
[51:36] You do have a very qualified and competent city shop.
[51:40] We also installed chemical detectors in February of 2017.
[51:45] Picture of what those look like right there.
[51:47] We've also distributed some electronic gas detectors in 2017.
[51:52] We're continuing discussions with Ford's Texas representative and their engineering staff as well.
[51:57] The investigation in HTSA has not issued a recall.
[52:01] Ford and HTSA right now are saying that the issues with carbon monoxide penetration
[52:06] and the cabin has come from after market lights and sirens that have been put on to the cruiser.
[52:13] We went and checked with the city's up fitter and our up fitter has not had any issues with either us or any of the other clients
[52:23] and there are no known issues to exist in our fleet.
[52:26] So our up fitter is different than the up fitter for the city boss and where they've had a lot of these problems.
[52:31] Correct.
[52:34] You're of the Ford explorers, the police interceptors are safe to operate.
[52:38] We have not grounded in units.
[52:40] There have been no reports and no detection of carbon dioxide in any of our units.
[52:46] The like and like I said, the up fitters is certified for it has reviewed their methods and their competent with that.
[52:54] The fleet manager is going to continue some enhanced inspections of those just to kind of monitor them and keep them as the developed
[53:03] developments may happen in other areas.
[53:08] But with that we'll answer any questions about the fleet that you may have.
[53:12] Well thank you very much.
[53:13] I had actually asked for an update on this when it was ready.
[53:16] There have been obviously numerous headlines about Austin's explorers and knowing that we had quite a few explorers.
[53:22] I had asked obviously wanted to keep our officers and anyone they have had to be transporting in their safe.
[53:31] So thank you very much for that and obviously keep us in the loop if you hear anything about recalls or anything.
[53:41] Thanks for the report.
[53:43] Thank you.
[53:44] Call consent.
[53:45] We're so into Councilor roll 2.3.
[53:47] The city council can sit agenda consist of agenda items DE and F.
[53:52] I just did a little information on it.
[53:55] And make a motion to prove D1 through F4 as presented.
[54:03] And F6 and F6 and F6 and so.
[54:06] Yes.
[54:07] I'm going to go off the road.
[54:08] Eric.
[54:09] Nice to meet you.
[54:10] Nice to meet you.
[54:11] Hi second.
[54:12] Okay.
[54:13] Motion in a second to approve the consent agenda less item F5.
[54:17] Those in favor say aye.
[54:18] I think I pose no motion carries F5 please.
[54:21] Resolution authorizing.
[54:23] Change over number one for the FY 16 advanced metering infrastructure system project.
[54:32] I thought it was just a double hitter tonight.
[54:36] I think my project that we just mentioned earlier is is is under budget is an FY 16 as I mentioned capital for a project.
[54:42] We talked about the deployment already.
[54:44] Project budget was 5.5 million dollars.
[54:47] Contractors local corporation, which is DBA commetric.
[54:50] The contract of work was 5.192 this this this item will authorize change order number one.
[54:56] Which will provide an adjustment to the quantities that were actually delivered in the field.
[55:00] The change order requested is 86,079 that is to take advantage of some of the cost savings.
[55:07] And to do non-residential units to inches and larger.
[55:14] We have a question of proof of F5.
[55:17] Second.
[55:18] Second.
[55:19] Who approve F5.
[55:20] Those in favor say aye.
[55:22] I pose no motion carries.
[55:23] Thank you very much.
[55:25] We will proceed with public hearings.
[55:27] Item g1 please.
[55:29] First reading of public hearing of an ordinance and many.
[55:31] Missier part could of ordinances in relation to address network notes.
[55:36] Good evening mayor and council.
[55:40] Jill Hoffman assistant city attorney.
[55:44] This legislative session the governor signed into law senate bill 1,04 related to the installation of network
[55:50] nodes in municipal rights away.
[55:52] The law goes into effect September 1st and so I'm going to.
[55:56] Explain what network nodes are.
[55:58] Discuss what the legislation does and then talk about.
[56:02] What authority we have to retain some of the some of the controls in our rights away.
[56:07] So first what is a network node.
[56:12] It's the equipment that connects your cell phone to communications network.
[56:16] We're used to distribute it in tennis systems which are on the big towers and.
[56:22] Those normally provide.
[56:24] I'm sorry service multiple providers and provide larger ranges.
[56:29] By contrast the.
[56:32] That work now is usually operate in serve only one provider and so provide a shorter range and are generally more abundant.
[56:39] And are placed strategically to add capacity and improve reception.
[56:46] Here's an example of what they can look like.
[56:52] So what is the legislation do?
[56:53] Senate bill 1,04 creates local government code chapter 284 which severely restricts a city's authority.
[57:00] Overage rights of way it mandates near unlimited access to our rights of way for the installation of network nodes for a nominal fee.
[57:09] It also includes a maximum height of 55 feet for the node support poles on which the network nodes are placed.
[57:18] And to give you some perspective that our street light poles are 25 feet so it's more than double the height of that.
[57:27] Chapter 284 I'm sorry.
[57:29] Yeah.
[57:30] Chapter 284 also mandates access to city poles to our city poles with a license agreement.
[57:35] So 284 defines service poles.
[57:39] To be our traffic signal city traffic signals street signs and then non decorative street lights.
[57:46] So these network nodes can be placed on our facilities.
[57:54] So what can the city do?
[57:56] We can require a permit and assess statutory fees.
[57:59] We can provide general installation requirements through a design manual and prohibit interference with city infrastructure.
[58:07] We can limit the number of network nodes per pole.
[58:11] And what's proposed in the documents before you tonight is a limit of one network node per pole.
[58:18] We can also require a undergrounding of a utility line serving the network nodes.
[58:24] And to comply with our undergrounding requirements for other all utility lines.
[58:30] And then we can also design design districts to require concealment of network nodes on the poles on street lights.
[58:38] And I'm going to get into that more in a minute.
[58:41] And then also we can implement minimum spacing restrictions between the node support poles throughout the city.
[58:48] So the design districts.
[58:50] We can require camouflaging of the network nodes on decorative poles and design districts.
[58:58] So in the proposed amendments before you tonight we have defined decorative poles to be all light poles and design districts.
[59:07] And then we have designated the design districts to be all the zoning districts in the city, including the adjacent right away.
[59:16] So that means is that any node place on our street lights has to be camouflaged to look something like this.
[59:32] Spacing between node support poles that's another way to have some control of location of these.
[59:39] We have implied authority to include minimum spacing between the node support poles and staff has proposed for different options to give you some perspective of what different spacing requirements do to the number of node support poles in the city.
[59:54] So if we were to place a 300 foot spacing restriction between node support.
[1:00:00] About 1100 polls in the city. If we did 900 feet, it yield about 236, 1500 feet, 183 polls, and then 3,000 feet would yield 42 polls in the city.
[1:00:16] To give you some more perspective, we've created some maps to show you the effect of each of those facing requirements.
[1:00:23] So the first is the 300 feet intervals. And this is measuring radius, not straight line, along the string.
[1:00:35] So this is 300 feet that shows about 1100 in the city. 900 feet, 1500 feet.
[1:00:44] And then finally, the 3000 feet that yields about 42 notes of port poles in the city. And this is what is proposed in the ordinance amendments tonight.
[1:00:57] So for consideration tonight, there are six items. The first is the amendment to right-of-weight ordinance, article 6003, and the fee schedule to require the permits to install network nodes,
[1:01:12] assess application fee and rental fees into require compliance with the design manual.
[1:01:17] Second, there's an amendment to the end-of-grounding requirements to strengthen our existing ordinance that requires under-grounding for all utilities.
[1:01:27] And what that does is strengthen and clarify who and under what circumstances utilities must be under-grounded.
[1:01:34] Third, there's an amendment to the lighting ordinance, which is an article 1408 of our code, and that defines decorative poles in requires all the decorative poles in all design districts, and specifies which zoning districts are the design districts.
[1:01:53] And as I mentioned earlier, currently proposed that the design districts includes all zoning districts, and they adjacent right away.
[1:02:04] Fourth, there's a minor amendment to the wireless telecommunications facility ordinance to clarify that these network nodes are governed by article 1603 and not chapter 14.
[1:02:17] And then fifth, there's the adoption of the design manual that includes insulation requirements, and includes the 33,000-foot spacing requirement, and then also limits a number of network nodes to one purple, and then finally authorization.
[1:02:33] The city manager to execute license agreements for use of our service poles, I realize that was a lot, and so I'm here to answer questions.
[1:02:41] That's one of those things like who knew six changes for this.
[1:02:47] These are communications, I guess these are like repeaters or something or take care of areas where there's not, where there signals are weak or something, is that the reason why they would be doing this.
[1:03:01] I think that's one reason, I think it's to close in areas where there may be gaps existing gaps, but I think there's also not the extra on this, but I think there's new technology coming out where these small cell network nodes,
[1:03:15] are necessary for the new technology, or at least extremely helpful in using promoting the new technology.
[1:03:25] Would it be a one company, first one, it hits hits, gets the nodes, and then everybody else is, you know, a lot for.
[1:03:35] I think it would be first come first serve, and I do want to remind you that this is just within our city rights of way.
[1:03:43] All of these companies still have access to any private property that is willing to lease property to them.
[1:03:50] So yes, I think it would be a first come first as far as limitation on our spacing requirements.
[1:03:58] They would limit the number of network nodes in our city, it would be at a first come first serve basis.
[1:04:07] Are you anticipating any sort of challenge to the 3000 foot spacing?
[1:04:14] This legislation goes into effect September 1st, I think all cities don't really know what to expect.
[1:04:23] And so I can't say that we would be expecting anything at this point.
[1:04:30] If we're not the first city in the state to actually implement this ordinance, we're among the first.
[1:04:36] Okay.
[1:04:37] This was just handed to us by the 80th legislature, and as Jill mentioned, it goes effective symptoms.
[1:04:42] Okay.
[1:04:43] Thank you.
[1:04:48] This is a public hearing.
[1:04:49] Would anyone like to address the council on item G1?
[1:04:55] See, then we'll close the public hearing and call item G2.
[1:04:58] A first reading public hearing of an ordinance calling an ordering a special call of election to be held on November 7th, 2017, for the purpose of amending the city title.
[1:05:09] Mayor Council if I could speak to that item.
[1:05:12] And your packet as directed, I've provided for you 22 propositions regarding proposed charter amendments within ordinance calling the selection for November this year.
[1:05:21] That list contains the priority one items as directed by the council with a few revisions.
[1:05:27] First off, the revision to disqualify vacancy appointees from the next election.
[1:05:32] Also the addition of the gender neutrality proposition and removal of the requirement to retain the voter registration list in the city secretary's offices.
[1:05:42] That's a requirement of the county per state law.
[1:05:44] That was moved from a priority one down to a priority two.
[1:05:47] There are two alternatives with respect in the November election date for the council to consider.
[1:05:52] And I would also ask you to consider the resigned of run provision.
[1:05:56] As proposed, it would require a resignation by a council member for any office other than the city council, including the mayor's position.
[1:06:05] I do have concerns, I understand that the policy behind where the committee landed.
[1:06:11] However, if you allow a sitting council member to run for the mayor's seat.
[1:06:15] If it's the same election cycle, you could create what might be construed as an unlevel playing field.
[1:06:20] And you could have a sitting council member holding onto their seat while also running for the mayor's seat.
[1:06:25] And I don't know that the council, I don't know that the city would like to have that policy in place.
[1:06:30] So that being said, I'll leave these items for your consideration.
[1:06:33] There's any questions that we had to speak to.
[1:06:35] I had to resign the run.
[1:06:45] Go ahead and open the public hearing.
[1:06:49] I have one card, Mr. Walls.
[1:06:56] Thank you, Mayor and council.
[1:06:59] I believe that it is alternate one regarding November elections.
[1:07:06] I just like to say that I believe that the may elections give the citizens the ability to carefully evaluate the city council races.
[1:07:13] November election would have state elections, federal elections at the same time.
[1:07:19] I don't believe we'd get a citizenship that is looking at the city elections as closely as they do in May.
[1:07:24] I also think that setting, they're what I find it stand correctly.
[1:07:29] This would allow if this were to be on a ballot and pass, it would extend by several months.
[1:07:38] Citizens voted you guys to be out of office in May or to be up for election in May, not next November.
[1:07:45] So I believe that's a pretty clear conflict.
[1:07:49] I'd like to continue supporting the may elections, although there are good arguments that could change.
[1:07:54] Thank you.
[1:07:55] Thank you.
[1:07:56] Thank you.
[1:07:57] That's the only card that I have here.
[1:07:59] So we'll go ahead and close the public hearing and throw it open to any discussion.
[1:08:07] And again, this is first reading.
[1:08:09] I think we're, I know I'm still personally gathering some information on some things.
[1:08:14] I do have one question for J.P.
[1:08:19] Are we going to be voting on each of these propositions independently to go on the ballot?
[1:08:25] And then the ballot is a whole, or how is that going to work?
[1:08:29] We can do it however you want, actually.
[1:08:32] But that that is up to the council's description.
[1:08:37] The council, each of the council members would be entitled to make a motion to adopt all or none or all anywhere
[1:08:43] between the two on the spectrum.
[1:08:47] Yeah, I don't think anyone would make an all or none proposition.
[1:08:50] But you could, but I might fail.
[1:08:52] So we're at my pass.
[1:08:54] But that'll be, that'll be up to our discussion.
[1:08:57] All right.
[1:08:58] One thing I did see today I saw a newspaper story in Brian, I guess, is whether they're doing a toy election.
[1:09:03] And I guess the way the propositions were awarded, it's caused a big star.
[1:09:08] So the residents are confused as to what they would do.
[1:09:14] And so they're, I guess I'll start to park some of them or not clear as to what they do.
[1:09:19] And I will admit a couple of these, I feel like I was, I can't even find out exactly what they did.
[1:09:23] What are those?
[1:09:24] But just, I saw that argument there.
[1:09:27] This is how skilled Mr. Van Arsdale is.
[1:09:30] He actually has piped in applause when he sees.
[1:09:34] Press it.
[1:09:36] That's a, that's a level I have.
[1:09:37] I think it was for Heather.
[1:09:38] It was just like, I'll remind everyone to please sign on cell phones.
[1:09:43] Although I don't think that was a cell phone.
[1:09:45] Any other comments?
[1:09:47] All right.
[1:09:48] Let's move on to item G3.
[1:09:51] A first reading public hearing of an ordinance,
[1:09:53] Collion ordering a second special call to election to be held in November.
[1:09:58] For the purpose of re-depracting one eighth of one cent from either the type A or the type B cell's tax fund.
[1:10:04] To the city of Ciro Park.
[1:10:06] Municipal general fund for short-mired drainage and street facility improvements.
[1:10:11] Operations and meetings.
[1:10:13] Good evening, Mayor.
[1:10:15] Council.
[1:10:16] This item is a public hearing on a possible election that would re-allocate a portion of the cell's tax
[1:10:20] to move the type A or type B co-operation fund, drainage and street improvements.
[1:10:25] Before we get into this, the financial details, which the finance department is going to present.
[1:10:31] I'd like to give you a little background on how we got here.
[1:10:34] In spring of 2016, we hired a consultant to do a comprehensive study.
[1:10:40] The issues and needs and funding options for drainage and street improvements in Cedar Park.
[1:10:49] We also, I'm sorry, I'm back up.
[1:10:52] The drainage use are divided into four categories.
[1:10:55] Infrastructure maintenance, regulatory compliance, and program management.
[1:11:00] We also looked at five funding categories of funding options.
[1:11:05] A drainage utility fee, special districts, municipal funding like general fund, CIOs, GIOs, etc.
[1:11:12] We looked at a sales tax relocation, which is what's being proposed tonight.
[1:11:17] And we also looked at grants.
[1:11:21] This table shows breakdown of the issues and needs that we studied over the last 18 months.
[1:11:27] The cost of the cost and services that could be provided with this sales tax relocation,
[1:11:33] and some of the services already being provided by payment out of our general fund.
[1:11:39] The infrastructure projects, the first column on your left.
[1:11:44] Those are the larger projects designed to reduce or eliminate flooding, major flooding around the city.
[1:11:51] Those types of projects include major channel improvements, neighborhood drainage projects,
[1:11:57] and the street repairs that go along with those.
[1:12:00] Street, various street rehabilitation and easemack position.
[1:12:08] Let's see where I'm right here.
[1:12:13] Oh, I know.
[1:12:15] Sorry, I've lost my notes.
[1:12:18] So during the study on the infrastructure infrastructure, we identified 19 projects in seven areas around town.
[1:12:26] And we did cost estimates on those.
[1:12:29] And those cost estimates total about $38 million.
[1:12:32] One thing I would point out is that of that $38 million, about 40% of that is street repairs associated with the drainage projects.
[1:12:40] Because whenever you build a drainage project next to the street, it damages the street.
[1:12:45] And that's why we are calling this item drainage in street.
[1:12:48] I will also add, because the intent is, if this passes, if y'all call an election and the voters pass it, and the money gets allocated,
[1:12:59] someday as we start working through our drainage projects, we could use some of the money for miscellaneous street repairs.
[1:13:05] Because I don't want people to think we're going to use the money for street construction.
[1:13:09] It's initially for repairing the street with the drainage.
[1:13:13] However, someday it could be used for street purposes, street maintenance purposes.
[1:13:18] Next, maintenance.
[1:13:23] Maintenance is one of the most important things we do.
[1:13:26] It keeps the pipes and the creeks and the channels free from debris and trees and everything that clogs them up so they can carry the water.
[1:13:34] Without it, you got a lot of problems.
[1:13:37] The good news is, over the last two budget cycles the city council has approved about $400,000 annually to pay for five full-time employees in equipment to start a maintenance department.
[1:13:51] Now, while I won't say that that's all we'll need in the future, it's a great start or already catching up.
[1:13:57] There's a list of all this stuff we do there, but basically they keep all the pipes and the creeks free of debris.
[1:14:05] Plus, street sweeping up, I think everybody sees the street sweepers we have.
[1:14:10] The next one is the regulatory compliance.
[1:14:14] This is really the state and federal permits that are promulgated or issued by the TCEQ.
[1:14:22] We have what's called a stormwater permit and it's very restrictive.
[1:14:29] It's got a lot of requirements on us and thankfully council approved money this summer for what we call a stormwater coordinator.
[1:14:38] So that program is being funded and we're making really good progress.
[1:14:44] Lastly is program management.
[1:14:46] Program management is really the glue that holds all these activities together.
[1:14:51] Most cities have a dedicated drains department.
[1:14:55] See the park is not, never has, and our proposal under this.
[1:15:00] This program is, if this goes through, is to, is to create this department and have a fully dedicated
[1:15:05] drainage department. It would start off with one program manager and a project engineer. The program
[1:15:12] manager or department had would manage all the maintenance people, it managed the, the engineer,
[1:15:18] and it managed the stormwater coordinator. And that person will be pretty much in charge of all the
[1:15:23] drainage stuff. The engineer will administer all the infrastructure projects. Higher the
[1:15:28] engineers do the best, do the plans, do the construction. Also, they would do grant projects.
[1:15:33] We're going to get, you know, get even more aggressive with grants. So anyway, that's,
[1:15:38] that's kind of an overview of the programs that could be provided with this, with this money.
[1:15:43] And lastly, I'll touch on the funding analysis. So in the beginning, we pursued what,
[1:15:52] what's called a drainage utility fee. And this is probably the most commonly used funding mechanism in the state.
[1:15:57] Many, many cities use it, but it's not, but it does, it does have its detractors.
[1:16:04] And we spent about six months with a heavy outreach on that to, to very large open houses.
[1:16:13] We had a, we had a web survey that was up for two months and a pretty nice,
[1:16:18] micro site. Anyway, the overall consensus was that the citizens of the city park will do not want that.
[1:16:26] So we kept looking. Special districts, we looked at those special districts, what they do is they allocate the money,
[1:16:33] they allocate the costs to neighborhoods. And what it was, what it was, the neighborhoods that are getting the drainage improvements.
[1:16:40] And what happens there, it can be a real financial burden on the homeowners because they end up paying for more of the costs.
[1:16:47] So we didn't look too too much further with that. General fund, we're using that.
[1:16:52] That's what we're using to pay for the maintenance in the regulatory compliance.
[1:16:56] FEMA grants, we've already started using those, we've got one, this last Christmas.
[1:17:00] And that's already been employed.
[1:17:02] Lastly is the, the sales tax reallocation from 4A or 4B that that's being before you tonight.
[1:17:10] So.
[1:17:12] Oops, I don't want to go into finance and stuff.
[1:17:15] And with that, I think I'm going to turn it over to finance because I think they're going to provide a little more information about that.
[1:17:21] And let's, unless you'll have any questions.
[1:17:23] I do have a couple questions for you before you go sit down.
[1:17:27] So where are we in the prioritizing process at this point for the different neighborhoods?
[1:17:33] We're pretty far along. We still got some work to do.
[1:17:36] You know, FEMA's released some new proposed maps.
[1:17:39] And so we've had to go back and reanalyze quite a few of the projects because it's changed those.
[1:17:45] And also, we've, we're still working on is the short answer.
[1:17:50] What's, what's your current timeline, do you think?
[1:17:54] To complete it?
[1:17:55] Well, to, like, yeah, I, to get started on the project.
[1:17:59] Do you, do you have any sense of like, how long it's going to be before you complete your prioritization when you can start doing the work?
[1:18:09] Or do you have to get through engineering first after prioritization?
[1:18:13] Well, you know, the projects, I mean, to do a project, you have to,
[1:18:16] to hire, do RFQs, consultants, design.
[1:18:20] I mean, it, it takes six to eight to nine months to get a project ready to go to bed.
[1:18:25] Okay.
[1:18:26] I mean, we still have, we still have some more work to do on the prioritization.
[1:18:30] And, and so yeah, we still got a little more work to do.
[1:18:35] Okay.
[1:18:36] So a couple more months before we do the, getting ready to go.
[1:18:40] Yeah, we could probably have the prioritization to Council of, I would say, for a draft in a couple months.
[1:18:45] Okay.
[1:18:48] All right.
[1:18:49] And that's, yeah, that's all I got for you.
[1:18:54] All right.
[1:18:55] Well, good evening, Mayor and Council on Chad Tustison, assistant finance director.
[1:18:58] I'm going to briefly walk through the mechanism of the one eighth cent.
[1:19:02] Currently, the city collects two cents of sales tax that are split between one cent to the general fund.
[1:19:09] A half cent to the type A and half cent to type B.
[1:19:14] With this change, one eighth cent would come off in this scenario redirecting from the for a fund, one eighth cent would come off that portion.
[1:19:26] And three, eight would remain with the for a fund to continue to fund economic development projects.
[1:19:34] If approved, the sales tax collections would begin for that drainage portion on April 1st, 2018.
[1:19:43] There's a lot of numbers here, but just to summarize, this is what the for a fund would look like with the re-direction of the one eighth cent.
[1:19:52] Since it begins in April 1, that would be six months through the fiscal year.
[1:19:56] So you can see in the FY 2018 proposed budget, it would redirect about half of what we would anticipate, 845,000.
[1:20:04] Looking at the impact in 20, beginning in fiscal year 2019.
[1:20:09] Once the minimum reserve policy or the reserve level is set in column C, row 11.
[1:20:16] It leaves the fund balance in that fund of $4 million and allows the gives the fund about $6.6 million and available balance for new projects.
[1:20:28] If the corporation were to the fund were to spend that amount, it would have about 1.5 million in 2020 and 1.8 million.
[1:20:38] In fiscal year 2021.
[1:20:43] The other option is for you is redirecting the for a B portion of the sales tax.
[1:20:48] This would work in a similar manner to for a and that one eighth cent would come off and leave three eighths of the cent for community development projects.
[1:20:56] If approved, the sales tax collections again would begin April 1st next year.
[1:21:03] This is also, this is shows the fund for the for the for the for B fund if the redirection were to occur.
[1:21:12] So looking in fiscal year 2019, we have a full year of sales tax redirected.
[1:21:18] Once that minimum reserve policy is set in row 13 column C.
[1:21:25] That would leave for the fund in 2019 a projected $930,000 in available balance for new projects.
[1:21:34] If the entirety of that amount was spent there would be $4.6 million in 2020 and 5.8 million in fiscal year 2021.
[1:21:49] And I'm available for any questions and this is a public hearing.
[1:21:54] I have a couple of questions.
[1:21:56] Do we already have money in the the budget planned for any of this for the drainage or is this all going to have to come out of this either eighth cent or a bond election or both.
[1:22:08] So currently the way the proposed budget is done.
[1:22:10] It does not assume that.
[1:22:13] And you have these numbers currently in the proposed budget now if.
[1:22:19] If the item was approved if voters approved it, then we would come back and potentially do a budget amendment, but as you can see even.
[1:22:28] For example, with for B, there's funding available even if this were passed in in November, it would go into effect April.
[1:22:38] The redirect $845,000 from the sales tax and after meeting the minimum reserve there'd be about $3 million in in excuse me.
[1:22:54] A balance of $2.2 million in the fund.
[1:22:57] This is not sure which of you is going to be able to answer this one better.
[1:23:03] Any sense and when we have to have this bond election in order to be able to get started on the drainage projects without too much delay or stalling on our part.
[1:23:20] I guess that depends on what your goal is.
[1:23:25] We still have some money remaining in our consulting contracts, so if you all decided to hold off we could do some projects between now and some other time.
[1:23:35] If you waited a year or so, yeah, that would probably be pretty big delay.
[1:23:40] But if you waited till May we've got some money we could work on planning and engineering stuff.
[1:23:47] But you know, other than that, I mean the sooner the better for the infrastructure project.
[1:23:53] We're not talking about a bond here, this meeting is about the reallocation of 8th of a penny, either coming out or 4A or 4B towards collecting.
[1:24:04] Yeah, it creates potential bonding capacity, but we're not talking about it.
[1:24:08] This is, this item is purely about the idea of ordering the special election to redirect.
[1:24:15] Correct, but my question is, I mean we're reallocating the money with the intent of then calling a bond election.
[1:24:22] I'm wondering how soon we need to have that bond money for them to not be stalled.
[1:24:27] I don't know that that's actually been totally decided because there were some members of the council that were more interested in a pay-go method.
[1:24:33] I think that once this passes then, if this passes, if this passes us and then it passes the residents, then the council will meet
[1:24:42] After the November election to determine the policy on how the funds will be allocated and distributed.
[1:24:49] I just want to make sure that they're going to have enough money to move forward on stuff, at least initially until we can get.
[1:24:56] I'll put it this way if this passes the November then I would anticipate we'll have a meeting about this in very early December.
[1:25:02] And if not, we'll be having a meeting about looking for alternative opportunities in this.
[1:25:10] But there is still engineering money available. That's what I was hoping to do.
[1:25:16] Yes, I thought I saw the earlier day where the end or the school districts thinking about having a half billion dollar bond election.
[1:25:24] I think this November, do we know whether they're doing that or not doing that?
[1:25:30] I don't believe they would call that yet.
[1:25:38] So, they're on the same time table.
[1:25:41] Yeah, I'll just 21st being the final day to call.
[1:25:49] Has four A or four B, are they like?
[1:25:54] And they, I don't know, adopted resolutions, supporting this or are they entertained it, looked at it and how it affected me.
[1:26:02] Yeah, we presented this to them on Tuesday at their budget consideration meeting.
[1:26:07] For four B, excuse me here.
[1:26:09] What was the feedbacker?
[1:26:12] There were some outstanding questions that they wanted to ask.
[1:26:17] We weren't any questions to ask, but some additional questions that some of the board members wanted to have answered and wanted to answer those questions when we have those questions available answered.
[1:26:38] Right, this is a public hearing.
[1:26:42] Ms. Ryan Wood has registered no position just available as a resource witness if needed.
[1:26:50] Mr. Smith.
[1:27:01] I could even counsel and mayor. I'm a Scott Smith. I love it. 3,780 lane.
[1:27:08] Shortly after I bought my house and moved to Ranch of Brushy Creek in the world if floods of 2015, I had a lake in my backyard.
[1:27:17] And I was planning my wife and I were planning to put a pool in, so I know the drainage issues that people suffer and I have a very small issue and mitigate that very quickly.
[1:27:29] Frankly, I think that I'm frankly appalled that we would go down this with the four B board as an even at time to really look at this.
[1:27:39] I was at the four B board meeting on Tuesday and they seemed totally surprised that essentially one eighth asset was going to go on.
[1:27:49] The community that board has provided a lot of benefit to take away from economic development is kind of shooting off my pen.
[1:28:01] And I'm really going to put, I think, the residents against each other.
[1:28:08] There are seven retention ponds that my HOA owns.
[1:28:13] We spend over $25,000 a year maintaining those retention ponds. We have future liabilities to clean out those rich admissions ponds.
[1:28:22] For the, you know, the developer did now the goodness this heart did that drainage work and so the areas that did not have it as a city, you know, did not have the regulations.
[1:28:34] I don't know why we don't go look at the district or look at a bond election.
[1:28:39] You know, what is the future going to be when this $40 million is paid off or we always going to have this one eighth going there.
[1:28:45] I think it needs to go back and really think about where we are as a city and where, you know, I was very opposed to the utility field.
[1:28:56] The fee.
[1:28:58] I think we can do better.
[1:29:00] Thank you.
[1:29:02] Mr. Hutchins has registered for the item does not wish to speak using sales tax for drainage and street improvements.
[1:29:11] We'll lessen the burden on property owners, but not raising property taxes or implementing utility fees.
[1:29:16] Thank you Mr. Hutchins.
[1:29:19] All right. We'll go ahead and close the public hearing and call up items before.
[1:29:25] I first heard you public hearing of an ordinance calling an ordering a another special call election for November of 2017, but it was for redirecting one eighth of one cent from either type A or Type B.
[1:29:37] And also I'm a tiniestly coal item each one as well.
[1:29:40] Okay.
[1:29:41] To to be used to reduce property taxes in addition to the discussion of a level from state exemption.
[1:29:49] This is simply somewhat similar to the prior item in that is redirecting one eighth cent.
[1:29:55] This is for property tax rate of reduction.
[1:30:00] Again, the total local sales tax rate cannot exceed two cents, and you can see the split, the current split between the two cents.
[1:30:07] And in this looking at two different scenarios, redirecting an eighth cent from 4A sales tax, from leave 3-8s for economic development projects.
[1:30:19] So, if past sales tax collections, in this case, would begin October 1, 2018.
[1:30:25] Looking at the 4A fund beginning in fiscal year 2019, that's when this would, the sales tax rate or redirection would happen.
[1:30:36] This leaves once in the minimum reserve policy as set.
[1:30:40] This leaves in 2019 about $7.4 million in available balance for new projects.
[1:30:45] If that amount is spent, then there'd be another $1.5 million in fiscal year 2020, and $1.76 in 2021.
[1:30:54] We've done our assumptions.
[1:30:57] Looking at the 4B scenario in redirecting one-eight cent for property tax rate reduction.
[1:31:06] In a similar fashion to 4A, this would leave 3-8 cents available for community development type projects.
[1:31:12] And again, if past, this would take effect, October 1, next year.
[1:31:17] The 4B fund can see the impact to the fund.
[1:31:23] Once the minimum reserve policy is met in fiscal year 2019, of $1.36 million, this would leave available to the fund about $1.8 million in fiscal year 2019.
[1:31:36] If that entire amount was spent, $4.6 million in fiscal year 2020, and $5.88 million in fiscal year 2021.
[1:31:47] There's also some discussion at the retreat to look at home state exemptions, as well as the impact of the sales tax.
[1:31:58] Redirection to property tax rate reduction on residential versus non-residential.
[1:32:08] Any American Council on Kent Merit, the Finance Director?
[1:32:11] I like Chad said there were a couple of questions.
[1:32:14] You asked us to come back and talk with you about the home state exemption opportunity, as well as the impact on residents versus non-residents of the sales tax reduction.
[1:32:26] Okay, looking at the first time I talked to you about the home state exemption.
[1:32:30] Now, the home state exemption would be a local option that would be available to the Cedar Park residents.
[1:32:35] The tax code section 11, 13 allows for a local optional home state exemption.
[1:32:42] The minimum exemption would be $5,000 to a maximum of 20% of the assess value.
[1:32:49] The exemption removes a part of the home's value from taxation.
[1:32:54] An example would be a $100,000 home with a $5,000 exemption that assess value would be reduced from $100,000 to $95,000 for tax purposes.
[1:33:07] Now, only the home owners principle resident would qualify.
[1:33:11] A resident, according to the code, is defined as a separate structure, condominium, a manufactured home, and up to 20 acres of property.
[1:33:22] Now, Cedar Park currently has a couple of local options.
[1:33:26] One is the over 65, $30,000 exemption, as well as a $20,000 disability exemption.
[1:33:36] There are other exemptions that are on a Cedar Park residents tax bill.
[1:33:42] Those include school districts, each school district and Cedar Park has a $25,000 exemption.
[1:33:47] Austin Community College has a $5,000 exemption.
[1:33:51] Upper Brushy Creek has a $10,000 exemption, and there are a number of other county, age, and disability related, as well as veterans related exemptions available to Cedar Park residents.
[1:34:04] So that's everything I have to discuss with you about the home set exemptions.
[1:34:09] If you want us to go back and look at this some more, come back with some additional details for you.
[1:34:15] We would be very happy to do so.
[1:34:18] Now, the second issue that she asked us to come and talk to you about tonight was the impact of a tax rate.
[1:34:27] What would be the impacts of the sales tax redirection to residents versus non-resident Cedar Park?
[1:34:35] Now, the important aspect of the sales tax redirection is that it would be used to lower the tax rate, which means that it's not specific to any type of property.
[1:34:47] It doesn't matter about the residency of the property owner.
[1:34:51] It's strictly, the savings would strictly be based on the value of the property.
[1:34:58] I'm going to walk through two different examples for you.
[1:35:01] One is a residential property, and the other one I'm going to talk to you about is a commercial industrial type property.
[1:35:07] And I'm going to show you how the differences are really not relevant.
[1:35:12] The first I want to talk to you about the residential property, the first two rows in this chart simply gets us to the third row, which is the average taxable value of a home in Cedar Park.
[1:35:25] Now, the current working rate that we're using the budget is 0.6.46 per $100 valuation.
[1:35:32] Now, the sales tax offset would reduce that 0.46 down to 0.4409, or a reduction of slightly over our slightly under two pennies, which is the 0.019.
[1:35:47] So that's a reduction of just under two pennies that would reduce the taxes on this particular property from 1,411 down to 1,352, which is an annual savings of $58.54.
[1:36:01] Now, if we reduce that $36,637 piece of property down to a $100,000 property, the sales tax savings are the property tax savings in this case would be $19.10.
[1:36:18] Which is $19.10 per $100,000 valuation.
[1:36:23] So that's how a residential property would be computed.
[1:36:26] Now, looking at the same analysis for a commercial or industrial property, it's the same result with 830 commercial counts in the city of Cedar Park with a commercial taxable value of slightly just right at 1.4 billion.
[1:36:42] The average taxable value of a commercial piece of property is about 1.8 million.
[1:36:49] So looking at the same analysis using the same methodology, dropping the tax rate from 0.46 cents down to 0.4409 per $100 valuation would result in about a $336.42 annual savings for this particular property.
[1:37:07] Which, taking that $1.8 million value down to a 100,000, the same thing that we did with the residential property, it comes out to $19 in 10 cents per $100,000.
[1:37:19] So it's the same exact result, whether it's commercial property or residential property.
[1:37:25] And it doesn't matter about the residency status of the individual owner.
[1:37:31] So that's everything I have for these two items.
[1:37:34] If you want us to come back with additional information or more analyses on this, I would be more unhappy to do that.
[1:37:40] This is a public hearing if you have any questions for me.
[1:37:43] I would, I'd just like to see how some of that translates into the city budget.
[1:37:52] You know, if we were, it seems like one of the fundamental questions comes down to you.
[1:37:56] You want to provide property tax rate relief to, you know, principal residences or to everybody across the board.
[1:38:04] And then second just to, you know, I think what I hear you saying is that there's not a ton of difference between the two options, but I don't know that you really got into that.
[1:38:17] Like I, I don't, I need better understanding about what the, what the, I'm asking this really badly.
[1:38:25] I'm sorry, the home situation is a new thing.
[1:38:27] All right, here we go.
[1:38:29] Based on the different levels of homes that exemption that the council might offer, what would be the financial impact of those.
[1:38:35] Certainly what the options would be.
[1:38:37] That's sorry guys, I had to find, find my way to my question there.
[1:38:41] We know, we know very specifically what it would be with the, with the eighth of a cent.
[1:38:46] What would it be, you know, in terms of savings, how much less would be collected with various options with that exemption?
[1:38:53] Sure.
[1:38:54] If you wanted to offer 5,000 or 10,000 or 5% or if you could just show us what some of those might look like.
[1:39:00] What?
[1:39:01] Because like I remember that at the budget meeting last week, it was, the number was something in the nature of around 1.7 million right now that that would be 1.7 million per year to switch the eighth cent.
[1:39:15] Well, it was Chad had those charts up for you second to go.
[1:39:18] Yes, it's about 1,700,000 dollars per year that would come over to the general fund.
[1:39:23] It'd be interesting to see if you took that number and just, it did nothing but home set exemption.
[1:39:30] What kind of exemption that would be?
[1:39:34] Same same.
[1:39:35] Yes.
[1:39:36] I'd be cars the same cost.
[1:39:38] Yeah, I'd be curious to see that as well.
[1:39:39] Well, we have to be careful though, because the home set exemption reduces the revenue to the city, whereas the sales tax, the return of a cousin.
[1:39:47] Right.
[1:39:48] What we'd have to see is how much savings to the average homeowner there is at these different levels, 5, 10, 15, 20, whatever.
[1:39:57] And then how much is lost to the general fund?
[1:40:00] Right.
[1:40:01] And then the question becomes, what do we do to recoup that in the general fund?
[1:40:03] We can come back with some analyses, similar to that.
[1:40:06] Yes.
[1:40:07] I mean, this is basically two ways to come at potential property tax relief.
[1:40:10] One of them attacks the rate side and the other one attacks the valuation side, exactly.
[1:40:15] You know, I think that, you know, one, we've got to look at, do we want to fund property tax savings to property owners that live in California?
[1:40:26] Or buying speculative property in our city?
[1:40:29] Or do you want to have direct impact on citizens' property, the, you know, their homes?
[1:40:35] And one can be treated by ordinance.
[1:40:38] And another can be treated, you know, has to go through a charter.
[1:40:41] Right.
[1:40:42] And so I would also point out, I'm really, I'm very undecided on this.
[1:40:48] So I'm not arguing it, but yes, there are some speculative Californians here.
[1:40:53] Maybe even some Canadians that have some property here.
[1:40:56] But there's also a lot of business owners that live locally that probably, you know, they've taken a chance on opening a business and see your park.
[1:41:05] And the idea of giving them some rate relief as well as not terribly offensive to me.
[1:41:10] But again, it's which side of the, which side of the equation do we want to attack and how we want to direct it?
[1:41:17] I think it will be a really good discussion, but additional numbers would I think help us have it a little more intentionally.
[1:41:24] A really big problem with taking an eighth of a sense out of the four B money.
[1:41:29] We're taking sales tax money away from everybody who's paid into that sales tax fund.
[1:41:34] And that four B fund goes to benefit every single person in the city, including renters.
[1:41:40] But we're only giving the relief back to home owners and it looks like largely businesses now.
[1:41:47] No, it would go to everybody.
[1:41:49] But we're talking 58 dollars a year to home owners and hundreds of dollars a year to commercial.
[1:42:00] And other properties worth more.
[1:42:03] They've made a larger investment in the city.
[1:42:05] Obviously, but we're talking about trying to give property tax relief 58 dollars isn't it.
[1:42:11] It's just not it.
[1:42:12] Oh, I think it's just one piece of the puzzle.
[1:42:14] It's it's it's a step and it doesn't cost the budget anything is the reason why it's worth.
[1:42:19] It doesn't cost our city budget anything, but it costs four B's budget.
[1:42:23] Four B's still will have a wonderful fund balance.
[1:42:26] And they will have because I thought you wanted a tennis center.
[1:42:29] Where's that money coming?
[1:42:30] That's not the budget.
[1:42:31] We wanted to do economic development.
[1:42:33] We want to redevelop the quarry.
[1:42:35] We've already taken out $18 million of our four B fund for the Bell Boulevard redevelopment project.
[1:42:41] And it's going to be years and years before that return on investment or repayment.
[1:42:46] So you're talking about continuing to rob a fund that's supposed to be for community development.
[1:42:51] This is supposed to be for community projects.
[1:42:53] And you're going to give it just specifically to retail and commercial landowners.
[1:42:58] No, give it to every property owner in the city.
[1:43:02] It's not even a majority of them.
[1:43:04] How many homeowners really are going to care about $58 a month?
[1:43:08] I don't know.
[1:43:09] About $58 a year.
[1:43:11] We could put it on the we could put it on the ballot and ask them.
[1:43:14] I guess that's the idea of putting it on the ballot is they'll tell us whether they care or not.
[1:43:17] Yeah.
[1:43:18] I mean, that's that we're not deciding to do this.
[1:43:21] We're deciding if we want to ask the residents to do it.
[1:43:24] That's a fundamental difference.
[1:43:26] And the legislature's monkey with property taxes as we speak.
[1:43:30] You know, they're taking the bill on Saturday.
[1:43:32] And we're going to regulate the local governments.
[1:43:34] Good.
[1:43:35] Good.
[1:43:36] Good.
[1:43:37] On our rates and everything else.
[1:43:41] But every form of taxation we have if it's $58 here if it's $17.
[1:43:45] If it's $500 over here all of it is all of it is what the government is, you know,
[1:43:51] converting, you know, or it to use your parlance robbing to from people sitting.
[1:43:57] Well, you said, you said we would be robbing the for beef fund.
[1:44:01] Whereas it would be what it would be doing is returning some portion of the for beef fund into.
[1:44:07] Some people in our community, but not everyone who owns property.
[1:44:10] That's who it would be returning it to.
[1:44:11] There are more people in this community that pay into the sales tax and expect money back from that for beef fund.
[1:44:18] There's also a quality of life.
[1:44:20] There's also a lot of people who don't live in our city who pays sales taxes.
[1:44:23] So it's actually a way to redistribute some of their money to the property owners in the city.
[1:44:28] Yeah, actually, you know, the the citizens of this city when it comes to when it comes to all of the retail development.
[1:44:34] The citizens of this city have borne a lot of burden as infrastructure was built to support, you know, these retail now grant it.
[1:44:42] They've been asking for these projects, but.
[1:44:45] They've borne the burden to bring all of this here and to create a city where true other people are coming in from outside of our city to shop.
[1:44:51] Because they have borne the the sole the sole burden of getting it done.
[1:44:57] I do think that, you know, property owners.
[1:45:00] The city should have the sole benefit of a potential return. Again, there are different ways to get
[1:45:07] at this, but I'm reasonably certain if the average barren seat or park, if you said, do you really
[1:45:14] who do you think can spend $58 better, or your government? A good number of them are going to say
[1:45:20] that they can. It becomes a question through the whole picture of how much do we need. I think we
[1:45:27] may need a little less, because we can talk about it during the budget as well, but we've had tremendous
[1:45:34] financial success, our local economies extraordinarily healthy, and at some point, at some point,
[1:45:41] you can say, you know, and you know what, if there's a little bit of a short fall, then it comes
[1:45:45] down to a budgeting situation just like it does in every one of our homes. There's some things I'd like
[1:45:51] to buy that I can't afford today, and I'm going to save up form, and the city could do the same thing.
[1:45:54] So what would be before being for me to think of the two boards today? The same answers, the drainage
[1:46:00] answer, about whether they've formally supported this proposal. The four be meeting on Tuesday,
[1:46:11] I'm not going to presume to speak for them, but it's definitely definite about when we're in other
[1:46:18] on. What about for A when it's for A? Remember, um, we from Monday, we had a joint meeting scheduled for
[1:46:26] the 17th actually, um, or their normal meeting is the 21st, but the 21st is the last data call.
[1:46:36] And also, I guess, the chamber on our Tony shares is the chamber taking a position on these or
[1:46:42] look at this. Yeah, okay. You guys intend to? I don't want to either, both.
[1:46:59] I mean, again, a lot of this may come down to philosophy on, you know, how much is this level of government
[1:47:06] need to, to take? And that'll be an ongoing discussion. Well, I do understand that as a homeowner,
[1:47:13] I would prefer $1.7 million to stay in the fund for a community project, then $58 per year in my pocket.
[1:47:22] And that, and so your vote would be no on a ballot done. Yes, it will. Well, in some of this is also,
[1:47:29] there's a lot of effects it seems to do in all these things. And I'm just not sure we know all of them yet.
[1:47:39] And so that's kind of, you know, all the commitments and projects and bond covenants and
[1:47:46] bond rating, you know, it's just just a lot of things to consider, because as once we go forward with this,
[1:47:52] it's kind of out of our, you know, it's sort of we're now impacting a lot of stuff. And I'm just
[1:47:58] personally not sure if we know all of that yet, but maybe we'll, maybe I'll feel more that way.
[1:48:04] I mean, one of the issues to look at is over the 17 or 18 years we've had four B, you know,
[1:48:11] two years ago, they had over a $12 million fund balance. I don't know that removing
[1:48:17] the $18 million on, which was handy and good. And useful. And if you look at a number, they'll be
[1:48:24] plenty of money over time. Because the fund replenishes itself. You have this replenished slower.
[1:48:32] A lot, you know, there's, I'm still trying to grasp this, there's a lot of moving parts here.
[1:48:37] No question. One of the things that I, a little bit of a concern, will be gone when I'm, you know,
[1:48:43] dollaring old man, maybe a year or two away with any way. The fact is, this money were pulling out
[1:48:53] of 4A and 4B and any one of these things. It goes into the general fund. I mean, there is no way
[1:49:00] that we're able to actually say, and we can vote and make sure, you know, contract with the, you know,
[1:49:07] the citizens, they elected everything. But bottom line, it goes into the general fund. And it may well,
[1:49:13] long time down the road, be totally forgotten. Whereas, you know, I'm kind of a pierced, the homestead,
[1:49:18] is, while it can be changed by ordinance, it's, you know, it's fixed and it's known costs,
[1:49:25] you know, the impact of the city. And so, personally, I mean, at this moment,
[1:49:31] preserving the right to change my mind, maybe even minutes from now. I'd like to see us do
[1:49:37] one of the options, and having, having the math on the other option. I think we've got, again, I think we've
[1:49:45] got an opportunity with the dollars that we're pulling in to give some sort of, of, of, of relief to,
[1:49:51] some group of properties. And, you know, I'm open to suggestion what that might look like, and ultimately
[1:49:57] we'll, end of the well of the council. But, um, we also do that by setting a rate, setting a
[1:50:02] part of the tax rate. That's, that's, that way we do it. Now we're going to, we're going to work on that, too.
[1:50:06] There's no, I guess the question I have is, is the finance department have a recommendation of whether it's
[1:50:11] for a, for, for being money, I mean, given all the other moving parts that you're aware of, is there a
[1:50:17] preference, is there a recommendation? Yeah, I think we've considered this a policy decision for the council,
[1:50:25] as we were trying to present you the fiscal, and, and that part of it, but, uh, ultimately, where that
[1:50:32] goes, and by also looking at whatever obligations, uh, are assumed by those corporations. And so,
[1:50:42] I'm not sure that we have a recommendation, but we want to present those pieces of information for council
[1:50:47] consideration. But, I mean, we've, we've, we've got two very similar possibilities here. You know,
[1:50:53] one puts it in, one comes from either four A or four B, and goes toward funding, you know,
[1:50:59] swarm water, drainageants, and street facility improvements. Um, the other one takes from the other fund,
[1:51:06] and just keeps it in the pocket of property owners. So, uh, but it goes into the general fund. It doesn't
[1:51:12] necessarily. Well, but it lowers your rates, so we're collecting less from you. That's, that's the idea.
[1:51:16] I mean, round rocks have been doing it for years, and then Georgetown, Georgetown, it also does it
[1:51:20] at, I believe, to reach lower than ours. That's significantly lower than ours. I don't know, we can,
[1:51:25] we can talk about that tonight. Yeah. Anyway, um, again, lots of moving parts, um, any other
[1:51:31] comment, we still haven't held the public hearing. We've held our own little hearing. All right, I'll, uh,
[1:51:39] open the public hearing, um, uh, Mr. Smith, you have cards in on both items. So, I'll let you
[1:51:50] discuss on both. Um, one of the challenges I think that I struggle with in Texas, being here over 11 years
[1:52:03] and coming from states that didn't have as, as, as, a dependent on property tax,
[1:52:08] is I think the one of the things that the legislature, when I talk to my legislators, our legislators,
[1:52:12] is that we never look at the value of what's the average home year to year. And that's the really
[1:52:19] struggle is that, and that's where I think the legislature gives us the ability to do the opposite
[1:52:24] exemption. And I think that sadly, a lot of taxing municipalities, um, entities do not use that.
[1:52:32] And I feel tonight to speak up on the ones who can't speak to themselves or the disabled
[1:52:39] and the elderly, you know, on a fixed income that basically bought their house into your park when it was
[1:52:47] reasonable to live here, and they're going to be priced out of their home. And that's, I may be priced
[1:52:53] out of my home. I mean, I may decide as, as an economics, I'm a very person of the free market system,
[1:53:00] if someone wants to pay $500,000 for my house, and I bought it for $300,000 through years ago,
[1:53:05] it might be a good investment to walk away. But, you know, I also have to look at, you know, what's
[1:53:11] the upcut, keeping the cost. And one of the things I struggle is that, you know, and I,
[1:53:17] why is the growth not paying for everything? As I jokingly say, they're not building $150,000 homes like
[1:53:23] the word in 2004. You know, a higher neighborhood, nothing's under $4 and $50,000 brand new on 65 foot
[1:53:31] lots. So, I think we really need to look at the home set exemption and also look at the budget.
[1:53:39] Makes and tough choices. I don't think you steal from sales tax.
[1:53:45] What's your here? What if the uses of those sales taxes, for instance, with 4A, or so restricted,
[1:53:53] that it's difficult to use that money? And the money is just going to accumulate,
[1:53:58] which has happened, which is happening. I mean, there are somewhere around $6 or $7 million in
[1:54:04] fun balance right now. I think that's sort of the challenge of where the city wants to be. Do we want to be just
[1:54:08] a better in community? Are we going to bring in some companies that can bring in jobs? And so someone like
[1:54:14] myself doesn't have to commute, doesn't have to get on a plane. Absolutely. And so we have a lot of,
[1:54:20] and we have a lot of tools to do economic development. I mean, 4A is not the sum total of our toolbox.
[1:54:25] We have 380 agreements. We've got tax statements agreements. We've got, you know, fees and that we can
[1:54:30] reduce. But I think there's lots of things. And so if they still have a revenue stream of several million
[1:54:36] dollars a year that's usable and it's difficult to use because of the way that the legislature has defined primary
[1:54:44] employment, you know, it's a good conversation I have, I think. I don't view it as stealing from them.
[1:54:53] It's not there a money to begin with. This is Susan's money. And it's just, I'm sorry, I'll take
[1:54:58] you in your time. I'm not familiar with you anymore. That's awesome. But I just questions are not on his time.
[1:55:04] You know, where the opportunities we have to try to balance all of this are few. And this is one of them.
[1:55:12] So, you know, would you oppose just putting it on the ballot and letting the voters decide?
[1:55:18] I think that that's, you know, I think. I think that's a very difficult question to see what your voters are going to do.
[1:55:25] Yeah. Well, you never know. Yeah, never know. And I think that that's really depends on the education that we get out.
[1:55:33] Yep. Poe, pro, pro, and events. Yeah. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:55:39] All right. We will close the public hearing.
[1:55:46] Oh, I received it. Consider a raise of a resolution at the rising a change order with CC Coral Test,
[1:55:52] the Andersonville Road Phase One Reconstruction Project. And back in the Monday, green.
[1:55:58] Get into Mayor Nelson Allen Green, senior engineering associate. This out was related to a change order on the
[1:56:03] Andersonville Road Phase One Reconstruction Project. When design of the project began the scope of the project
[1:56:10] consisted of the Reconstruction Andersonville Road as a mixture of two lanes of four lanes. There's
[1:56:18] there's also some acceleration that these acceleration lanes being constructed at the major
[1:56:22] driveways to the Coral and Coral slab. And the reason for this design was due to the available budget at
[1:56:28] the time when design was taking place. The four lanes sections are being constructed at the north
[1:56:35] end of the project near 1431 and the south end of the project at the gas bar being intersection.
[1:56:41] And the current four lane design at the gas bar being intersection is providing
[1:56:52] dedicated left and right turn lanes from Andersonville Road to gas bar being. But although that we're
[1:56:57] able to provide those term lanes at this time with phase one, additional improvements would be
[1:57:01] needed in this intersection during phase two of the project. After the construction bids,
[1:57:10] after we open construction bids they came in way under budgets. So we have some available funds.
[1:57:17] And since then we have requested the engineer extend the four lane section from where it currently ends
[1:57:23] just north of gas bar being to the south and that extension is about 600 feet. And that allows
[1:57:30] us to get the four lane section through the curve what we call the south curve on a project and increase
[1:57:37] mobility and safety on through that region. One thing that this allows us to do is also eliminate any
[1:57:45] future construction in the actual gas bar being Andersonville Road intersection with phase two.
[1:57:52] The contractor C.C. Carlton has provided the city change order to complete these improvements in the
[1:57:59] amount of $333,133,116 in 16 cents. And we recommend moving forward with the execution this change order.
[1:58:08] I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.
[1:58:11] We're emotions.
[1:58:19] I'm like a motion to prove H2 as presented.
[1:58:23] Second motion, a second discussion. Those in favor say aye. Opposite. Motion carries.
[1:58:30] I think we're going to say for road. Thank you. H3 and H4 please.
[1:58:35] It's going to be your 2018 proposed budget and also to consider setting a maximum proposed
[1:58:43] tax rate for the tax year 2017 in fiscal year 18 and scheduling two total hearings on the tax rate.
[1:58:49] Finally, we have a theme. It's very and it's very tomorrow land. I like it.
[1:58:55] Good evening Mayor. I'm council and chat to send assistant finance director. So it's my opportunity to
[1:59:00] present the fiscal year 2018 proposed budget. So our primary goal about set is a balanced budget,
[1:59:06] which you will see today. But just as important, we feel the proposed budget reflects guided growth,
[1:59:12] relying on city council's to cheese it goals to address service levels in our departments,
[1:59:17] the meat, the expectations of our city residents. This includes maintaining a healthy sense of
[1:59:22] community, safety and security, planning for continued growth, all while maintaining strong fiscal health.
[1:59:29] In the budget, you'll see a reduction in the current property tax rate, largely due to growth and
[1:59:35] values. You'll see continued investment in public safety for fire station five and anticipated to
[1:59:41] come on later next year to more police officers in public safety support. We're also recommending
[1:59:46] additional support and core services, library, streets and neighborhoods, as well as areas that support
[1:59:52] those services. The budget also includes, excuse me, increases for our public safety personnel,
[1:59:59] health care costs.
[2:00:00] As well as pay for performance for our non-public safety employees. The budget also invest in additional
[2:00:06] transportation projects, continued commitment to bond projects, including major streets and parks improvements,
[2:00:12] a bill bowl of art, as well as a lay-clank park. It includes additional economic development
[2:00:18] agreements to attract businesses and jobs. And finally, the budget puts us in a flexible position
[2:00:25] to address our current and future debt service. So looking at the budget overview, our total operating
[2:00:32] budget is $140, proposed operating budget is $140 million. The general fund is the largest fund
[2:00:38] at $50.9 million, and provides for the day-to-day operations of the city. The utility fund is the
[2:00:44] second largest fund and accounts for water and sewer services provided to residents of the
[2:00:48] seat of park and surrounding areas. We have 12 restricted funds, which means those revenues that
[2:00:54] go into those funds can only be used for purposes such as 4A and 4B, a debt service fund,
[2:01:01] solid waste, and some others that are listed there. Our primary goal at outset is a balance budget.
[2:01:06] As chart overlays, the 2018 general fund resources over general fund expenditures, the outside circles,
[2:01:13] the revenue, and resources. Property tax, and includes property tax, sales tax, franchise fees,
[2:01:20] administrative, and contract services. And then we have a section for other that includes some
[2:01:24] development fees, park fees, municipal court fines, as well as a use of fund balance for one-time
[2:01:29] expenditures. Our expenditure categories include general government, support services,
[2:01:37] culture, and recreation, public works, and development, as well as public safety.
[2:01:45] Our largest revenue comes into the general fund as ad valorm, property tax revenue.
[2:01:51] So, there are two variables that determine the revenue, the city collects. The first one is property
[2:01:56] values, which is determined by the county ofraisers. The city property values grew as a whole from 7.4 billion
[2:02:04] in 2017 to 7.97 are an increase of 7.5%. Currently, the city foregoes 749,000 dollars
[2:02:13] through an agreement with an existing tax increment reinvestment zone, and 636,000 through a state
[2:02:19] exemption for seniors over 65. Finally, the city of Cedar Park has two local exemptions that
[2:02:25] can't talk about that have been adopted through ordinance, a 30,000 exemption for seniors,
[2:02:30] and a $20,000 exemption for disabled persons, and that equates to foregoing a little over $400,000
[2:02:36] annually. The second variable in the calculation of the AV revenue is the property tax rate,
[2:02:42] which is set by city council. I'm going to quickly walk through how we get to the rate in the proposed
[2:02:47] budget. So, our current rate is 47 cents. That's made up of maintenance and operations, which pays for the
[2:02:53] day-to-day services of the city, an interest in sinking or INS, and those are for payments for
[2:02:59] servicing the city's general debt. As part of the truth in taxation requirements and we're
[2:03:04] working closely with the tax assessors office, we calculate an effective M&O rate, which is the rate
[2:03:11] at which we would collect the same amount of revenue that we did in the prior year, based on increased
[2:03:17] values. We also, as part of the truth in taxation calculation, calculate a rollback rate. This is
[2:03:27] 8% above the effective rate, which, if adopted, could trigger a vote by residents on the tax rate
[2:03:33] increase. The M&O working rate is 5.25% over the effective rate and just lower than our current
[2:03:41] M&O rate. The working INS rate is a decrease of 910% from the current rate, which gives council flexibility
[2:03:48] to address different debt management strategies. So, these two rates combined give us an overall
[2:03:53] 1 cent decrease in today's total tax rate. Our working rate is 46 cents in the proposed budget,
[2:04:04] as I mentioned, a drop in 1 cent. This would be the 5th year in a row, largely as a result of strong
[2:04:10] growth in our values. Now, these charts show the split between the two components of the tax rate.
[2:04:17] You can see the small change between the two fiscal years. So, what does this assess value and
[2:04:25] proposed rate mean to the average homeowner? So, the weighted average home value for Cedar Park, which combines
[2:04:31] Travis County properties in Wales, Williamson County, is $30637. This is an increase of 7.5%
[2:04:40] over the prior year. I'm applying this new average value to the rate of $46 per $100 average monthly
[2:04:48] levy would increase by 5.3%. This shows our history of AV revenue collections back to 2010.
[2:04:58] The proposed budget of $19.29 million includes $430,000 set aside for existing economic development
[2:05:05] agreements. This chart here gives us an idea of where Cedar Park stands in comparison to some
[2:05:13] benchmark cities. It's around this time that most cities are presenting their proposed tax rates.
[2:05:19] So, we hope anticipate having an updated chart for the first public hearing on August 24 to reflect
[2:05:25] the proposed rates. Looking at sales tax and other revenue, this shows our history of sales tax
[2:05:33] collections, the proposed budget of $13.8 million includes $1.85 million set aside in that
[2:05:40] economic development department for existing economic development agreements. The 2017 estimate is 10%
[2:05:46] over 2016 and 2018 is another 5% over that fiscal year 2017 estimate. Apart from AV revenue and sales
[2:05:58] tax, the city collects franchise fees from local utilities. We have revenue source from administrative
[2:06:05] fees for general fund support of the water utility and other funds like 4A and 4B. Development
[2:06:13] related fees remaining flat going into 2018. We have fees for service that includes things like fire
[2:06:21] protection to non-city entities, park program fees, library fees, fines are fees paid for through
[2:06:30] the municipal court system and we also have some miscellaneous revenue which includes delinquent property
[2:06:36] taxes, beverage tax as well as interest income and royalty payments from the quarry. Going into general
[2:06:45] fund expenses, this table is a lot here but it summarizes the changes that we make to the
[2:06:51] budget to go from the current 2017 budget to the proposed budget today. So the process begins by
[2:06:58] developing a baseline budget shown in column B. We take a snapshot of our personnel, we layer in
[2:07:03] known benefit costs, cost increases such as health care, retirement, we include step increases for
[2:07:09] our public safety personnel. We also strip out any one-time non-recurrent expenses such as vehicles like
[2:07:17] the Quint Fire Truck Fire Station 5. Once we have a baseline budget set we add in contract
[2:07:23] obligations and column D such as known increases, tech and non-development agreements and additional
[2:07:28] benefits to our uniform employees approved in the latest meet confer contract. We also have some IT,
[2:07:33] maintenance, contract increases and then once we get through adding those adjustments to base and
[2:07:40] column D that we know we need to have in the budget to maintain current service. We then layer
[2:07:46] in department needs and requests, which I'll touch on in the next few slides. Once we do that we arrive
[2:07:53] at the budget that's being presented today. So moving on to the service request, mostly we went over
[2:08:02] at the budget workshop so I won't go into detail but the proposed budget includes a total of 17 and a
[2:08:07] half full time equivalent employees, over half of which support public safety services and you can see
[2:08:13] that includes a police officers, a call-taker training sergeant, as well as IT staff to support
[2:08:19] the police department and some other items there. As far as non-public safety it supports neighborhoods,
[2:08:26] the IT department. We've added in there since the workshop a buyer which is partial offset by
[2:08:34] some savings that we hope to realize in next year's budget as well as a transfer from the utility fund
[2:08:39] to support that function. So that total cost is listed there, listed there is 63,000,
[2:08:46] the net that increased to the budget was about 26,000. It also includes funding for, as I mentioned,
[2:08:56] streets, library, as well as our legal team and civilian compensation. We have other
[2:09:03] other service requests, non-personality requests in the budget and I got an edge and you've seen
[2:09:10] most of these before at the budget workshop last week but it includes mostly one-time cost $1.3 million
[2:09:18] and an ongoing cost of $125,000. It includes the items that you see there today to support
[2:09:26] our fire department, the library, some a study for development of the quarry as well as our
[2:09:34] police department and public works function. So in the past the city is contracted with organizations
[2:09:43] including the 2017 budget. Organizations in the community to provide specialized services to our residents,
[2:09:51] the proposed budget increases the funding after meeting at the last week's budget workshop.
[2:09:56] It is increased the funding from $42,000 to $72,000 or an addition of $30,000. So this reflects
[2:10:03] approximately $1 and funding per city resident. Now we have two options for city council to consider
[2:10:10] if each is to maintain this increase. One option funds each organization at 92% of their
[2:10:19] requested amount, that's the first option. The second option would fund those with whom we've had
[2:10:24] past success and dealings at 7% at 95% and fund the new program at 72% unlike a trial with that
[2:10:34] organization in 2018. These two charts compare the increase, the one and a half million dollar
[2:10:44] increase from 2017 to 18. Of course we're a service organization that's reflected by salaries and
[2:10:50] benefits taking up the largest share followed by contract services which a third of that is the vehicle
[2:10:56] equipment replacement fund that departments pay into for the replacement of large purchases
[2:11:04] to normalize the purchase of large purchases over the years. We also have software contracts in
[2:11:11] contract services, a phrasal fees, and of course payment for the regional animal health, the
[2:11:16] second payment of the regional animal shelter which I'll talk about a little bit later on in this presentation.
[2:11:23] So in summary with those included, with those items included in the proposed budget that's
[2:11:28] general fund is structurally balanced. Now what this means is that our recurring revenue is covering
[2:11:35] our recurring expense. So we're projecting to collect $1.2 million less than our projected
[2:11:41] expenses. However we can strategically utilize available fund balance for one-time expenses. So the
[2:11:48] net of some one-time revenue that we have coming in and one-time expenditures is $1.3.36 million. So this
[2:11:56] leaves us with the structural balance of a little over $100,000. Our ending balance is 18.9 million dollars
[2:12:04] which is 37%. And that falls right in the middle of our reserve policy of 25 to 50% of operating
[2:12:11] expenditures. So if you recall at the budget workshop we provided some information regarding increasing
[2:12:19] the city's annuity cost, annuity cost of living adjustment from our current 30% of CPI to 50%.
[2:12:27] So this is currently not included in the proposed budget but we did receive some direction from
[2:12:32] Council to go back and develop some options to fund this benefit. So we have three options for you
[2:12:38] today. Option A would increase the proposed rate from 5.25% to 6.61% over the effective rate. So this
[2:12:48] is just funding that benefit with property with an increased revenue rate. We would maintain a proposed
[2:12:59] rate of 46 cents overall and we decreased the INS rate another three tens of a cent. So instead of
[2:13:08] nine tens of a cent it would be about 1.2 cent 1.2 cents decreased to INS rate. Option B would delay the
[2:13:17] funding for the buyer position. One police officer is the assistant city attorney position that we're
[2:13:23] proposing as well as some reduced proposed funding in library materials, street striping and street
[2:13:30] lights. So pair back those items that are included in the proposed budget. I would give us a total
[2:13:37] reduction of about 253,000 dollars and we'd be able to fund that benefit and I don't have it listed on
[2:13:48] here and I should have mentioned at the very beginning but this benefit would be a recurring cost of
[2:13:54] about $350,000 a year. It's on the previous slide I'll just go back really quickly. We have a structural
[2:14:01] balance of 100,000 and so we would be looking for an additional 250,000 to have a total of $350,000
[2:14:10] available to fund this benefit going forward. That said the option C would delay two police officers
[2:14:21] in the proposed budget as well as the assistant city attorney position and that would come to a total
[2:14:27] reduction of $261,000.
[2:14:33] Just before you go, I thought at the budget workshop last week the structural balance was about
[2:14:40] $155 and change. It went into $50,000. That distributed to the community services or.
[2:14:48] The community services we also added the buyer position. Are you adding the buyer position? Right. So that was
[2:14:53] added. What we did is. That's right. You've got an accounting. Yeah, we used them off said. We
[2:15:00] All right, so moving on to the other half of the AV rate, interest and sinking for debt service payments.
[2:15:11] Now, this chart here shows a relationship between the scheduled annual debt service payments in the green blue and yellow bars.
[2:15:18] The INS rate is represented by the blue line and the revenue coming from that rate is represented by the shaded gray area.
[2:15:27] So based on our overall proposed rate of 46 cents with an INS at 22.95 cents, this gives council flexibility or capacity of $3.8 million to the fees or call debt in fiscal year 2018.
[2:15:42] Now, this is what is currently in the proposed budget.
[2:15:46] Now, at the budget workshop, there's also some discussion to look at various levels of INS rate and its impact on debt service capacity.
[2:15:55] So I have two additional scenarios for you to look at.
[2:15:59] The second scenario lowers the proposed INS rate, another cent from 22.95 cents to 21.95 cents, leaving capacity of 2.97 million, of course, to the fees or call at standing debt.
[2:16:17] The third scenario increases INS rate by nine tenths of a cent from our proposed rate and is the current INS rate used in the FY 2017 budget or 23.75, 23.875 cents.
[2:16:35] This leads capacity in 2018 of about $4.5 million.
[2:16:43] So the proposed budget includes $47 and a half million dollars in capital projects.
[2:16:48] These are funded by voter approved general obligation bonds, the 4B community development board and the utility fund.
[2:16:55] So there's three major categories you can see here.
[2:16:58] Transportation is the majority of those projects includes additional arterial overlay on our streets and roads.
[2:17:09] Improvements to new hope, Ronald Reagan to Sam Bass, also Anderson Mill, road phase two, and includes additional funding for Bell Boulevard redevelopment as well as traffic signals and turn lanes.
[2:17:22] For parks, adding that $3.74 million dollars in the majority of that is for Lake Lane Park.
[2:17:28] It also includes trails and bike facilities funded by 4B as well as the town center trail and pedestrian bridge.
[2:17:35] In the utility fund there's various water and wastewater projects that's funded by the utility fund as well as community impact fees that are paid for by developers for new development.
[2:17:50] Another item from the workshop that we talked about was funding for the build out and recapturing of the space in building three.
[2:17:57] So we've identified funding in the utility fund.
[2:18:00] We're anticipating this project for building three to about $2.6 million dollars.
[2:18:05] We've identified funding in the utility fund of $1.3 million.
[2:18:09] We have savings from the fire department, fire station five.
[2:18:13] Projects that's shown there is general fund transfer because that's because the general fund paid for a portion of that fire station five.
[2:18:21] We would be able to realize some of the savings in that project and move it to fund this project.
[2:18:27] And then we've also identified potentially using short term notes in the amount of $950,000 again for building three.
[2:18:36] We also modeled out financing the second of two payments for the city's contribution in the regional animal shelter.
[2:18:44] This year we plan on making a setting aside $500,000 to make a payment for the first payment for that construction.
[2:18:52] We have in the budget today that I've gone over as a one time expense.
[2:18:57] $500,000 in the general fund.
[2:18:59] This what this option does is it would free up $500,000 in the general fund.
[2:19:05] We could short term finance that using these short term notes paired with with the building three short term short term notes of $950,000 for total of $1.45 million.
[2:19:17] With that we'd be able to fund the microwave backhaul connection projects that we talked about for the remaining fire stations in the budget that are currently not included.
[2:19:30] We have one project in the one fire station in the budget funded by fiber for that for that connection and one I believe it's fire station two for for the microwave connection.
[2:19:50] Moving on to other funds our second largest fund is the utility fund and it's largely supported by utility bills for water and sewer.
[2:19:57] There's other revenue in there for interest income, late fees, reconnect fees.
[2:20:01] The proposed revenue is $34.3 million.
[2:20:05] On the expenditure side, the majority of the expenses in our transfers category that includes debt service for BCR UA, BCR WWS and revenue bonds.
[2:20:16] There's also pay-go water and wastewater projects as well as a transfer to the general fund for cost allocation.
[2:20:24] So for the contractual services is the second largest category those repayments to BCR UA and BCR WWS for debt service and maintenance of this facility and program as well as a franchise fee payment to the general fund.
[2:20:41] So in the utility fund there's two requests that are included in the proposed budget.
[2:20:46] The first one is for a network administrator that's to really help manage the supervisory control and data acquisition or skates system and then an industrial pre-treatment position to assist the current personnel working on that.
[2:21:02] Moving to our economic development corporation or for a fund, revenues projected at $6.81 million with expenses totaling 5.6 million.
[2:21:13] The majority of that goes to make payments on the HB Center that service.
[2:21:17] We also have economic development agreements and support services.
[2:21:21] This is here some of the projected economic development agreements.
[2:21:28] That's why 2018 budget, again we're projecting a 5% growth similar to 4A, 5% growth over the 2017 year-end estimate.
[2:21:39] For expenses the budget is $7.9 million that's broken out in those areas on the right and I'll go through each of those categories.
[2:21:49] And briefly here. This chart depicts the four categories or buckets that the board approved on Tuesday.
[2:21:56] In economic development includes fallbrook, Dana, Serenov and VV analytics for community enhancements.
[2:22:03] I've mentioned the town center trail in pedestrian bridge.
[2:22:06] A couple of feasibility studies, right turn lanes of improvements that little out in fire lane, corridor enhancements and a transit service plan.
[2:22:16] There's also a pull-mounted street signs and light pull banners for in the community identification area.
[2:22:21] As well as in destination city, $4 million set aside for bill boulevard redevelopment.
[2:22:29] We have some other smaller funds that we manage and budget for.
[2:22:33] And as you can see the projected fund balances are healthy for those funds going into the next fiscal year.
[2:22:43] So as we developed the budget this year, again we'd like to take a look at some of our financial policies.
[2:22:49] Currently there's no policy for reserve levels for 4A, 4B and tourism.
[2:22:55] And what we're doing is we're recommending setting a minimum reserve level for 4A and 4B at two months of budgeted sales tax and one year of debt service.
[2:23:05] The tourism fund at two months of budgeted hot collections and one year of debt service.
[2:23:10] tourism fund doesn't have any debt service but in the event that they were to pledge some revenue for that purpose then we'd want to have that in place.
[2:23:20] We also as part of the reserve would recommend that using the minimum reserve could be used but we'd have to have a plan or that would be a company with a plan to replenish that within two fiscal years.
[2:23:35] So looking at even past next fiscal year, we're looking at a final build out looks for all our departments, specifically public safety and some of our other departments.
[2:23:48] We have some expenses that we'll have to take over in fiscal year 2021 that includes signal maintenance for textile that the textile is currently paying for that so that's something that is on our radar.
[2:24:01] We'll be looking at ONM costs for major bond projects including Lake Lime Park, the new library that will come on in the next few years.
[2:24:09] We also have some major renovations taking place at building three at our place department building as well as fire station five coming online.
[2:24:18] And then of course managing our drainage issues and finally we have some redevelopment projects come up including bubble of art and then of course future query development.
[2:24:31] As far as next steps, this is really the first step in the last stage of budget development after this item, you'll be asked to consider maximum tax rate.
[2:24:43] On August 24th we will we'll come back with updates and input from this meeting and have our first public hearing of a second public hearing on September 7 which is a special call meeting.
[2:24:56] And then finally city council scheduled to approve a budget on September 14th.
[2:25:05] So Mayor, that is the presentation of the proposed budget. I'm available as well as city staff to answer any questions you may have.
[2:25:13] Thank you Mr. Tesis and that was an excellent thorough report and you make the complex understandable I appreciate it.
[2:25:21] We'll throw it open for discussion at this point.
[2:25:25] Okay, I like the idea of funding the cola. I had maybe a little bit of both I guess or maybe a jumble of all options.
[2:25:40] One of the things that was on the list for option two was delaying one of the police officers to fiscal year 19.
[2:25:47] I really do think that that's a good idea at this point. They still have currently two positions open.
[2:25:53] They've been unfilled for a while. They've just hired on seven and just like with the fire department it's.
[2:26:01] We've been doing it in waves and having that open position locks up that money whether they fill it or not and I don't know if they can fill four positions in the next year.
[2:26:14] Because it took them how long to fill seven.
[2:26:19] I don't know the answer. It was a couple years.
[2:26:21] It was a question for the department. I mean, they have to go through a testing center and things like that.
[2:26:26] Yeah. I don't know what that looks like.
[2:26:29] We've actually made some changes this year to that hiring process that allows for a six month hiring list instead of a year long hiring list.
[2:26:39] And one of the reasons we did that was looking at some of the length of time that it was taking to be able to fill positions.
[2:26:47] But I'll turn it over to.
[2:26:49] Yeah. Good evening, Mayor Council.
[2:26:51] Assistant Chief of my carbon sheet of park police department.
[2:26:54] Currently, we did change our hiring process to shorten the list to a six month list.
[2:27:00] Previously, we had it to where it was 12 months or a year long list.
[2:27:05] Well, we couldn't really do anything until we exhausted that list or let it expire after a year.
[2:27:10] That was creating some issues with burning people on faster.
[2:27:15] So we should order it to a six month list, which helps speeds up the process a little bit.
[2:27:21] Okay.
[2:27:23] I guess I'm I'm I'm I worry a little bit about delaying positions that they've requested because they're.
[2:27:29] They're forced structure is based on an analysis by a consultant that says this is how many officers they need to patrol our city.
[2:27:37] It's not a formula of any sort.
[2:27:39] So.
[2:27:41] I take that to mean the consultant to said we need these positions and I don't know that I know enough about what the consultant said to.
[2:27:49] Maybe we could put off one of them three year.
[2:27:52] I think I can sort of agree that the coal needs to be increased.
[2:27:58] However, in terms of three options, I think the first one is probably the most viable.
[2:28:04] If there are to be any cutbacks, I would not want it to be from the police or fire, but more from any administrative positions that.
[2:28:12] Are critical to the services of the city.
[2:28:16] I think police and fire are critical and so we we were to shave back on anything perhaps.
[2:28:22] You know on outside contractors or.
[2:28:26] You know delaying a project fry in extra year or so.
[2:28:30] Well, I'm not talking about not hiring any police.
[2:28:32] I mean we already have two positions open so we're talking about hiring three instead of four.
[2:28:38] That's not I mean that's not a significant difference.
[2:28:42] We're talking about hiring three instead of four.
[2:28:46] And then saving that 84,000 and allowing them to hire that fourth one.
[2:28:50] Next year next fiscal year.
[2:28:52] Um, well, option A just from a.
[2:28:56] T.
[2:28:58] Planning.
[2:29:00] Mo with the dynamics of the legislature stuff.
[2:29:02] Actually is a logical move and kind of protect interest to the city.
[2:29:06] I agree.
[2:29:08] No part part of what I wanted to talk about was.
[2:29:12] Um, using that option A is the majority of it.
[2:29:16] However, I don't want to necessarily drop that INS rating down quite slow.
[2:29:22] I'm concerned that we wouldn't be able to then use.
[2:29:24] Um.
[2:29:26] It's flashing really fast on this.
[2:29:30] Sorry.
[2:29:32] Um, so if you would say is to use that 84,000 convert that into the INS rate.
[2:29:38] Uh,
[2:29:40] Potentially that.
[2:29:42] Um, some other options would be.
[2:29:44] Uh, the query study potentially delay that to fiscal year 19.
[2:29:48] I'm not sure how all of you feel about that.
[2:29:50] I would.
[2:29:52] Um, we've got to head on that one.
[2:29:54] Yeah.
[2:29:55] We also have.
[2:29:56] 75,000 dollars for an November election.
[2:30:00] And also that I have fairly seen the benefit in that. And I think if we can cut out some of these
[2:30:10] other things, potentially increase that tax rate to 0.465, that brings our M&O to that 0.23345 that you
[2:30:21] were looking at, but that also increases the INS sort of halfway in between to 0.23155 for INS rate.
[2:30:32] So then we have a little bit more debt capacity. We can do a look at a defacement plan. That means we can also do the
[2:30:40] COLA, and we can also potentially bring in that 14-day pay cycle. And it will all cancel.
[2:30:47] What's the, I guess I have a significant question. What is our defacement opportunities this year?
[2:30:53] I thought Dan or somebody was supposed to give us a report or a year to go.
[2:30:57] Dan's in Colorado, so he's available on the 17th and the 24th. And so what, he ran a couple of scenarios.
[2:31:07] You have the ability to def ease just looking at the option and it really depends on how far out it's
[2:31:15] possible. He ran a scenario looking at a 2.5 million in defesence and what that savings
[2:31:22] would look like and it was around 630,000 I believe. And so we haven't run all all scenarios of defesence.
[2:31:35] So it's about 3,000 over how long?
[2:31:38] Over, well, over that when they restructural that and you defies that, so they remodel it.
[2:31:45] And so it's an instant real money savings.
[2:31:48] It's not out of one year, but it's up for that.
[2:31:51] It's about 30,000 years. It's about 30,000 years.
[2:31:56] That you got to pay 2.5 million for maybe maybe not. I want to see it.
[2:32:02] Okay. And I was also wondering if we, because we were talking about the shifting things to the one-time payments and
[2:32:10] potentially using that slide one away.
[2:32:17] There it went. The short term financing for it for finishing up. Oh, that was in there.
[2:32:25] I'm finishing up. I'm finishing up the microwave.
[2:32:29] Backhaul on the fiber storage.
[2:32:32] But is it possible to move the PD storage into that one as well?
[2:32:36] I think the PD storage is in that one.
[2:32:38] Oh, it is.
[2:32:40] And just for a point of clarification, the election piece.
[2:32:45] And even to one other project.
[2:32:48] Of course, both of those are considered one-time funding as well.
[2:32:52] So they're actually, they're not in the recurring cost of the budget.
[2:32:59] They are in as considerations for use of the one-time funds.
[2:33:05] So, yeah.
[2:33:08] So normally we wouldn't swap those for cost that are recurring.
[2:33:12] So that wouldn't be able to get us to the $9,000 needed for the project.
[2:33:16] Probably not through those things.
[2:33:18] Okay.
[2:33:21] We'll have to go back and look again.
[2:33:23] So is there a way, because we're hearing about this for the first time?
[2:33:26] We don't have to decide this tonight.
[2:33:27] So is there a way for us to get this from?
[2:33:30] Heather, like, as you give it to y'all, like an email or something,
[2:33:35] or do we wait for the next meeting for the past set on a piece of paper?
[2:33:38] Or like, how do we open meetings this thing?
[2:33:40] So we can actually see it on paper.
[2:33:42] Well, we need to set a maximum tax rate tonight, right?
[2:33:45] Yes.
[2:33:46] So we kind of have to do that.
[2:33:47] Yeah, but the stuff she's talking about.
[2:33:49] Yeah.
[2:33:50] I mean, by the way, I agree.
[2:33:51] I think it's time to go to the 50% cola.
[2:33:54] And I'm open to the funding method.
[2:33:56] There are ways that I like more than others.
[2:33:59] But again, part of budgeting is prioritizing.
[2:34:02] So, I'm open to discussion.
[2:34:05] I would lean against the public safety personnel in the quarry study,
[2:34:10] although that's more of a one-time thing.
[2:34:14] Anyway, we've got another three bites at this apple, so we've got time.
[2:34:21] But that's on my list of things I'd like to see included.
[2:34:25] I think I'd like to, I mean, actually, I think we can come in significantly under 46,
[2:34:30] but I would not be willing to go above 46 for our maximum rate for the coming year.
[2:34:35] And then doing that, we can get the MNO rate at 23, 393,
[2:34:40] which is enough to fund the cola, which I fully sport.
[2:34:44] It still leaves 22, 607 on the I&S side,
[2:34:47] which is sort of between options 1 and 2, I guess,
[2:34:52] the way Chad presented them tonight.
[2:34:55] There's a lot of bonding capacity in that.
[2:34:57] Yeah, it'll give us some worth of $3 million for this coming year,
[2:35:01] and it'll still leave, you know, more than 2 million
[2:35:04] most years going forward.
[2:35:06] So there's a...
[2:35:08] Let me just put it this way.
[2:35:10] We could reduce the I&S rate this year to 18.3% or 18.3 cents,
[2:35:16] and still make our debt payments this year.
[2:35:19] So that's how much extra capacity is in there.
[2:35:22] We could make our debt payments, but then we wouldn't be able to call a bond for drainage.
[2:35:27] Nope.
[2:35:28] Not until somebody was finished.
[2:35:30] We can always call an election.
[2:35:32] But we wouldn't be able to pay it.
[2:35:34] That would.
[2:35:35] The I&S rate can go up.
[2:35:37] The I&S rate is...
[2:35:38] I thought talking about not wanting to raise the tax rate.
[2:35:40] I don't want to.
[2:35:41] But then...
[2:35:42] That's why we reduce it now if we're...
[2:35:44] I'm not saying...
[2:35:45] I'm not saying...
[2:35:46] I'm not saying...
[2:35:47] I'm not proposing that we do in 18.3 cents.
[2:35:49] I&S rate.
[2:35:50] I'm just saying that is the number that we legally have to fund.
[2:35:54] The rest of it, that's the floor.
[2:35:56] Is up to us to decide how high to go,
[2:35:58] and what we want to do with that.
[2:36:00] And that's the conversation we'll have in future budgets.
[2:36:02] A future budget meetings.
[2:36:04] But...
[2:36:05] You know, the I&S rate has a lot of excess capacity within it.
[2:36:10] Sort of intentionally to try to cut down on the amount of volatility in it.
[2:36:14] But I don't know that it was anticipated when that decision was made
[2:36:17] that we'd end up with $3 and $4 million surplus is every year.
[2:36:20] Which you're going to be hard...
[2:36:22] Which you're going to be hard to pay down.
[2:36:24] Because we don't have $3 or $4 million worth of...
[2:36:27] Defeasence is we can call this year.
[2:36:30] So...
[2:36:31] So...
[2:36:32] And $2.5 million.
[2:36:33] And so with one...
[2:36:34] And so with one...
[2:36:35] We're going to have to use to call the drainage bond.
[2:36:37] I don't understand what you're saying.
[2:36:38] What do you mean we have to call the drainage bond?
[2:36:40] Well, we need to get that on the ballot at some point within the next nine months before next.
[2:36:45] Right.
[2:36:46] And I'm trying to put something on the...
[2:36:48] But we need...
[2:36:49] It's a prior agenda item, but I'm trying to have something on the agenda in November,
[2:36:52] and then again in May to take care of that.
[2:36:55] I mean...
[2:36:56] We have to have the funds available to be able to cover our debts.
[2:36:59] We don't need to leave the next council to figure it out.
[2:37:02] No, and that's not what I'm saying.
[2:37:04] We don't...
[2:37:05] So tonight we're setting the max tax rate.
[2:37:07] We're not actually setting...
[2:37:08] No, that's all we have tax rate.
[2:37:10] The legislative session ends on 16th, 17th.
[2:37:14] Then we'll know what the legislature's doing to us.
[2:37:17] And ready to turn your park taxes.
[2:37:19] Looking like six.
[2:37:21] I mean, whatever they do this year isn't going to affect this year's budget.
[2:37:24] Unless they've changed...
[2:37:25] Well, it'll affect the future year.
[2:37:26] Well, recently we'll affect future years.
[2:37:28] And so we...
[2:37:29] We'll decide this right tonight.
[2:37:31] We'll decide the maximum rate.
[2:37:34] And then...
[2:37:35] I'll just go ahead and make a motion then.
[2:37:37] Set the maximum rate at 46 cents per hundred dollar valuation.
[2:37:41] With an operating and maintenance rate of...
[2:37:44] 23.345 cents per hundred.
[2:37:48] In interest in sinking rate of 22.677 per hundred.
[2:37:53] Dollar valuation.
[2:37:55] Schedule public hearings on the tax rate for August 24th and September 7th.
[2:37:58] And schedule a vote to adopt tax rate on September 14th, 2017.
[2:38:03] The max doesn't add up on that.
[2:38:04] What is that restricted on the coal options or not?
[2:38:07] Yeah.
[2:38:08] Yeah.
[2:38:09] Oh, you're right.
[2:38:10] Hold on.
[2:38:11] I got the numbers off.
[2:38:12] It's 22.655 on the INS side.
[2:38:14] It's actually higher than what I just said.
[2:38:16] So it's...
[2:38:17] The oxygenate.
[2:38:18] Okay.
[2:38:19] There we go.
[2:38:20] So your...
[2:38:21] Your...
[2:38:22] You're right.
[2:38:23] The exact option I own here.
[2:38:24] It's 46 cents per hundred dollars.
[2:38:26] Point two, three, three, four, five on M&O and point two, two, six, five, five on INS.
[2:38:30] Yeah.
[2:38:31] Okay.
[2:38:32] That's your motion.
[2:38:33] Yeah.
[2:38:34] Second that.
[2:38:35] But I had the numbers run.
[2:38:36] Motion in the second.
[2:38:37] Any further discussion?
[2:38:38] I would like to amend that to point four, six, five so that it gives us some room.
[2:38:42] The legislature really does decide that they're going to...
[2:38:47] Handstring us in the future.
[2:38:49] But you can't put the half-sent into the M&O that would put us over the rollback rate this year.
[2:38:55] It can be divided between the two or it can go into INS.
[2:38:59] Well, I don't know that I want to take the M&O rate to the rollback rate this year.
[2:39:03] But if it goes into the INS, the INS then becomes 0.23155.
[2:39:08] Anticipate. Anticipate. Anticipating a 6% I don't think there's any reason to inflate our tax rate in
[2:39:14] years or what the legislature is going to do. We can budget later or raise taxes later.
[2:39:18] No, it's 0.46. That's it. That's a 5.5 and a quarter percent increase.
[2:39:24] That's actually 6.61 percent. The M&O.
[2:39:28] But the total rate. The total rate is a decrease of a penny.
[2:39:32] No, let me say. I'm assuming. How much more are we taxing people?
[2:39:36] How much more are we taxing people?
[2:39:38] Like we were talking about. That's the question with the maximum rate.
[2:39:42] At 46.46. It was 5.75 percent increase, right?
[2:39:48] What would yes? The total rollback?
[2:39:52] Yes. At 0.465 it becomes right at that 6%.
[2:39:56] Yeah, let me I think it's one of these later slides.
[2:40:03] So the rollback is 23.65 cents.
[2:40:07] At was one of the little bubbles that you put on that one?
[2:40:10] Right, so the most you could put into M&O would be 0.
[2:40:14] Leaving the M&O at that 0.23345.
[2:40:18] I don't understand why we want to increase the I&S rate that high.
[2:40:22] I'm just setting the max based on what the legislature might do.
[2:40:27] And I think that we can always go down from there.
[2:40:30] I like to start at a lower number and work down personally.
[2:40:33] Then start at a higher number and work down.
[2:40:35] It's still going to be a half a cent decrease.
[2:40:37] I know I'd like it to be more.
[2:40:39] I know you would.
[2:40:40] But I'd like to set the max rate.
[2:40:42] You've made a motion to amend.
[2:40:45] Okay.
[2:40:46] Consider the amendment friendly?
[2:40:48] No.
[2:40:49] Okay.
[2:40:50] Is there a second to the amendment?
[2:40:55] All right, hearing none, we're back to the original motion of 46 cents.
[2:40:59] Is there any further discussion?
[2:41:02] Hearing none, those of the favour say aye.
[2:41:04] Aye.
[2:41:05] Aye.
[2:41:06] Opposed no?
[2:41:07] No.
[2:41:08] Motion carries.
[2:41:09] Okay.
[2:41:10] We will we will bring this back.
[2:41:16] Discussion review of 15 regulations.
[2:41:24] Good evening, Mayor and council.
[2:41:26] Your brief presentation about our fence regulations.
[2:41:30] No laughing from the side.
[2:41:34] We've had some questions about fence maintenance and about different types of fence regulations.
[2:41:41] So just wanted to provide some brief information.
[2:41:43] First about fence maintenance.
[2:41:45] We do have sections in our code specifically within chapter 14.
[2:41:49] Our site development regulations as well as the adopted international property maintenance code that require that.
[2:41:55] The residential well all fences be maintained but we're really focusing on residential fences here.
[2:42:01] Typically like the picture you see on the screen.
[2:42:05] We find that most of the fence violations or maintenance issues that we see are in neighborhoods where you don't have a homeowner's association.
[2:42:13] So when we find issues like this we go into.
[2:42:18] We notify the property owner and go through the compliance process and I will note.
[2:42:23] When we notify the property owner if they so choose to they don't have to keep their fence up they could take it down.
[2:42:30] But if they do want to maintain their fence.
[2:42:33] We would initially provide either a verbal or written warning saying we've identified the violation.
[2:42:39] We've given them typically seven to ten days to comply with that violation.
[2:42:43] If after reinspection after that seven to ten days we notice that they still have not maintained their fence we issue a notice of violation.
[2:42:51] Give them a formal notice that then allows them an additional seven to ten days to come into compliance.
[2:42:57] If after that time frame they still aren't in compliance we would issue a citation and that citation within go through our municipal court process which typically.
[2:43:08] It's about 30 days from the time that citation is issued to the time of their first appearance in court.
[2:43:14] So there's quite a bit of time in there that we try to allow the property owner to come into compliance before we get to that citation process.
[2:43:22] We really are goalless compliance and not to issue citations.
[2:43:27] So that's one side of the fence regulations and other part of the fence regulations is dealing with height.
[2:43:33] A lot of the issues that we see are fences that are over the allowable height within the city.
[2:43:39] Right now our maximum is six feet.
[2:43:42] And that would be on the sides and rear of your property and in the front yard we're allowing up to three feet and height.
[2:43:49] As you can see at the picture on the right there's an eight foot fence there.
[2:43:54] And there's a lot of interest in having eight foot fences there are quite a few of those around town and so one of the reasons why we're bringing this forward is to kind of get some direction on if you would like to look at amending our fence regulations.
[2:44:08] We did look at our benchmark cities and quite a few of them a majority of them allow for an eight foot fence and they do allow for a little bit taller fence in the front yard.
[2:44:19] And we're also thinking maybe there could be an allowance for an even six foot fence within the front front yard.
[2:44:29] If it was like rot iron it was not opaque so it could be seen through.
[2:44:37] And maybe that would only apply to larger acreage lots.
[2:44:41] We have quite a few homestead lots in the city that are larger acreage that like to have a front yard fence that's more substantial in three feet.
[2:44:50] So with that we're just looking for some guidance from you on if you'd like to see us come back with some modifications to the fence regulations.
[2:45:00] And I will note right now we don't require a fence permit. So if people are unaware of our fence regulations, they're putting up fences that may not comply with our code.
[2:45:12] I've had several neighbors ask about a foot fences and a couple of them have actually begun installing their foot fences.
[2:45:20] And then when someone said, hey, you can't do that, they came and asked me and I said, I think it's 60, but I don't really know why it's 60.
[2:45:27] I think that's kind of been a policy, you know.
[2:45:30] It's been around for you.
[2:45:31] You get taller and taller kind of creates that walled in feeling.
[2:45:34] Is that an industry standard from the development community? Is that the standard size?
[2:45:40] That's kind of been the typical size.
[2:45:42] How is it?
[2:45:43] How is it?
[2:45:44] When a lot of HOA's have a mandate for six offenses, well, I believe mine does, but I'm not positive.
[2:45:51] And I, and I conversely, I think there are some HOA's that would allow up to an 8-5.
[2:45:56] But because of our, I'm just saying there are other things that will come into effect.
[2:46:00] I don't have any, I think we should go ahead and go to maximum 8 personally, but I'm just 8 person.
[2:46:07] I don't have a problem with it either.
[2:46:08] I do have a question on the front yard, you know, if it's, you know, if it's a, because if we're a block, you know, roadways, if it's extended out where you couldn't see, you know,
[2:46:20] and that would be a.
[2:46:21] Right.
[2:46:22] Our current regulations do prohibit you from obstructing that sight line.
[2:46:26] So, even if we would were to consider something different, it still can obstruct that sight distance.
[2:46:35] That sight line.
[2:46:36] That sight line in process.
[2:46:37] So you only find about, find out about it afterwards.
[2:46:40] That is true.
[2:46:41] Yeah.
[2:46:42] That is true.
[2:46:44] Yes.
[2:46:45] Think about the private code enforcement.
[2:46:46] I, and not they have a really large property with a, a state, and they, you know, they, they have setbacks,
[2:46:50] they would put the ornamental fences on, I'm good with a taller ornamental fence, but yeah, that's I think.
[2:47:00] Three, for your standard law, you know.
[2:47:02] Yeah.
[2:47:03] Okay.
[2:47:07] Really that's on, I was looking for this evening.
[2:47:08] It was a direction and it was like that.
[2:47:10] That's a green forward amendment.
[2:47:11] We can ponder it further.
[2:47:12] Okay.
[2:47:13] Thank you.
[2:47:14] All right.
[2:47:15] Each six.
[2:47:16] Just especially at the 180-3A French Road completion.
[2:47:19] Do we have a staff presentation on this?
[2:47:24] I just, you know, I just wanted to update the council, you know, for several years now,
[2:47:31] we've been talking about urging the completion of the front-age road system through Cedar Park.
[2:47:41] I've had some decent progress on that.
[2:47:44] It's all really preliminary, so I really don't have anything to report.
[2:47:49] Brendan Sam and I met with my colleague in Stine.
[2:47:53] Last week, I guess.
[2:47:55] Obviously, Representative Dale's legislation has kind of gone toward this a little bit.
[2:48:01] But, you know, I wanted to put it on the agenda in case anyone had any questions.
[2:48:08] I've got another meeting tomorrow on it.
[2:48:10] Just to kind of hear what we're looking at potential funding methods, you know, what
[2:48:15] what pots of money are out there, and it seems to be an idea that's really starting
[2:48:24] to come around.
[2:48:27] Any questions on it?
[2:48:29] I just wanted to see, I didn't think you'd have any of that.
[2:48:31] There were some questions.
[2:48:32] I guess Representative Dale posted something on Facebook about this, and some people sort of
[2:48:37] questions about, you know, where would they put them?
[2:48:40] And they have to, you know, take out more roads, fronting neighborhoods?
[2:48:45] No, actually with neighborhoods.
[2:48:47] I think it'd be good to get some kind of discussion about what it would look like and get that
[2:48:52] data out there on the city's website and stuff.
[2:48:54] I think there's, I think there's discussion first of all that they would be one-lane or two-lane.
[2:49:00] There is existing right away.
[2:49:03] You know, the question becomes, you know, what sort of bridges would be needed.
[2:49:07] But because the road was built reasonably wide and, you know, you've got areas like where
[2:49:12] it goes through four stoics, where it was built with a big toll island in the middle that's
[2:49:17] no longer in use, and therefore the paving probably already exists.
[2:49:22] It's just a question of putting up barriers in that sort of thing.
[2:49:27] The idea of an untold, another untold northsouth, you know, obviously, I mean, we've had many discussions about this,
[2:49:35] but, you know, there's a lot of good opportunity there.
[2:49:38] It could definitely play favorably into the bill.
[2:49:40] Both of our discussion because it would be automatic traffic coming there.
[2:49:45] I have yet to figure out a downside to the city for this, but yeah, that's a good,
[2:49:52] I think after we have discussions with a few other groups, which are mostly happening on the staff level,
[2:49:59] I think we could take a look at that because that's all right.
[2:50:04] I think it would be helpful.
[2:50:07] I'm just, I'm glad there's finally some movement on it.
[2:50:11] Like for instance, they wouldn't be trying to incorporate the portion of front of drove that currently exist,
[2:50:17] going towards 1431 because that's super high speed exit there.
[2:50:21] Yeah, and that's hard to say something different.
[2:50:24] They'd have to go through a design.
[2:50:25] It's also up in there.
[2:50:26] I mean, when they will tell you, there's two hundred feet of right away.
[2:50:28] Yeah.
[2:50:29] So the chances of having to have any additional right away are very, very slammed.
[2:50:32] Right, but if they move the road closer to the neighborhood, even within the existing right away,
[2:50:36] I think that's going to perturb some folks.
[2:50:39] You know, again, they're already traffic linked.
[2:50:41] And the traffic is on the outside today.
[2:50:43] It's not on the inside.
[2:50:44] It would be pushing more traffic potentially to the inside.
[2:50:47] Oh, man.
[2:50:48] So actually, some of the traffic would be getting further between the neighborhoods than closer to.
[2:50:54] Okay.
[2:50:55] So I didn't understand there.
[2:50:56] I mean, one thing I would say, here to four, for years and years and years, we have lobbied them.
[2:51:02] And then there's been no.
[2:51:04] And now there's some movement on it.
[2:51:06] And in conversation and discussions and ideas and what, so if we can get a little more momentum on this,
[2:51:13] then I think we can start doing the additional research to get those answers.
[2:51:17] And, you know, beyond that, I would say turn of foot is a lot.
[2:51:22] That's a lot of land.
[2:51:24] Yeah.
[2:51:25] And the notion that we would never put roads in any front-end roads, I mean, it makes sense.
[2:51:31] It's a good space for it.
[2:51:33] Yeah.
[2:51:34] I'm just trying to be sensitive to particularly, you know, the four stoics and whatever we call the area on the other side of the toll road there.
[2:51:41] Part police want or whatever.
[2:51:43] Good point.
[2:51:45] They already have a toll road in their backyard.
[2:51:47] So there's going to be a little sensitive about us expanding the roadway outward.
[2:51:54] If we can expand it inward or just try.
[2:51:56] Yeah.
[2:51:57] If you do that section next to four stoics, maybe so.
[2:51:59] There's a lot of extra payment already there.
[2:52:01] Yeah.
[2:52:02] And I think that's the kind of stuff I'm looking to see kind of thoughts we're getting.
[2:52:06] Hopefully we'll get to the point where we can get into that detail and bring y'all that information.
[2:52:11] I'd also like to recognize Mark and our audience who's actually one of our CT or a board member.
[2:52:17] Oh, that's right.
[2:52:18] Thank you for your service.
[2:52:19] And we, we, we, we may have some things to discuss here at some point.
[2:52:25] We're about about your new dissolved status.
[2:52:27] Thank you.
[2:52:32] All right.
[2:52:33] Each seven.
[2:52:34] Consideration of it.
[2:52:36] Application for Bores and Commissions.
[2:52:39] Are we to the point that we can approve anything at this point?
[2:52:43] There was really nothing in the packet.
[2:52:45] So I'm not sure where we're at.
[2:52:47] I know you talked about some things at one meeting.
[2:52:50] We were like three or four meetings ago and I just kind of keep waiting for a final version to come back.
[2:52:54] We can go.
[2:52:55] Oh.
[2:52:56] Good.
[2:52:57] Well, I apologize for that.
[2:52:59] I think we sent you some information that just looked at.
[2:53:02] The follow up on what?
[2:53:05] Yeah.
[2:53:06] Yeah.
[2:53:07] I'm that he's had done.
[2:53:08] And so really I think we were just waiting for some the final feedback piece on.
[2:53:13] Here's the data that that was requested.
[2:53:16] I think the only discussion that I had looked at, you know, was a.
[2:53:22] Mr. R. R. Still had a suggestion about.
[2:53:27] You know.
[2:53:30] Boating frequency.
[2:53:32] Yeah, but I'm I think it was a pretty obvious discussion on council with that was unpopular.
[2:53:39] It's a sort of individual decision, but I did reach out to several.
[2:53:44] People that either on boards or just citizens and ask them.
[2:53:48] There are opinions on these three sub these three topics of the first one being the professional membership
[2:53:53] of the second one being the volunteer.
[2:53:56] Act serious suspicion.
[2:53:57] And the third one being they're, you know, getting all their social media.
[2:54:01] Platforms, handles, handles, and blah, blah, blah.
[2:54:05] And, uh, to use the same term.
[2:54:07] And, um, I think it's.
[2:54:09] I mean, what do you talk to you about?
[2:54:11] Detailed engine.
[2:54:12] You would say you'll never live it down.
[2:54:13] It'll be a few years.
[2:54:14] Yeah.
[2:54:15] And I will say I was a little surprised.
[2:54:17] Most of the people, I'd say two thirds of the people.
[2:54:19] Roughly that liked the.
[2:54:22] The professional memberships and volunteer parts.
[2:54:25] But they kind of just thought, why don't you just ask people to attach a resume or.
[2:54:31] They felt like that's our most people would already do that if they had it.
[2:54:37] Um, the other third on those that weren't in like that were kind of more like, you know,
[2:54:42] these are volunteer boards and it's hard enough as it is to get people so don't make it any harder.
[2:54:47] We already do background checks and blah, blah, blah.
[2:54:50] Um, on the last one, the social media, it was just pretty much everybody was, you know,
[2:54:54] they didn't like it.
[2:54:55] I don't see how the opposite reaction when I've done my own informal survey.
[2:54:59] You haven't caught mine if you want.
[2:55:00] And that's fine.
[2:55:01] I don't need it.
[2:55:02] Yeah.
[2:55:03] I see it as a best practice that's being used elsewhere and I.
[2:55:07] It's actually not being used anywhere else.
[2:55:09] That was one of the reports that we got back from.
[2:55:12] From Penny.
[2:55:13] Okay.
[2:55:14] Well, I like it anywhere.
[2:55:15] I like it anyway.
[2:55:17] I, you know, I.
[2:55:19] We do ask a lot of information, you know, but.
[2:55:23] Our.
[2:55:25] Our boards are.
[2:55:27] And commissions are truly, truly voluntary.
[2:55:31] There's no.
[2:55:32] Great prestige.
[2:55:34] And, you know, as in the state where, you know, being.
[2:55:38] Being on it.
[2:55:40] So it's, you know, I ask in any more.
[2:55:45] I'm from our citizens to, you know, I have to put everything down.
[2:55:48] I don't know.
[2:55:49] You know, I'm.
[2:55:53] I think we.
[2:55:54] I don't know if we need to change anything.
[2:55:57] This kind of.
[2:55:58] My thoughts.
[2:55:59] One part.
[2:56:00] One person on the social media part said it's actually kind of interesting.
[2:56:03] Take anything about this.
[2:56:05] But if you do require it, they will go scrub it.
[2:56:10] Make a scrub it for the appointment.
[2:56:12] If you don't ask for it, you can go look it out.
[2:56:17] Interesting.
[2:56:18] Okay. Well, I'm.
[2:56:20] I think we can leave her be for now.
[2:56:22] I.
[2:56:23] I think there was better momentum on it, but I think we left it so long that it kind of died out.
[2:56:27] So unless there's any motions on it, we'll.
[2:56:30] Maybe bring it back another time.
[2:56:32] Okay.
[2:56:34] Okay.
[2:56:36] I don't think we have anything else at this point.
[2:56:43] We see.
[2:56:46] All right.
[2:56:47] For the third time tonight, please recall.
[2:56:50] The executive session.
[2:56:51] And that's entirety, please.
[2:56:53] I think we're.
[2:56:54] We're not going to do closing comments first.
[2:56:56] Well, no, we have.
[2:56:57] We're going to have to come back out.
[2:56:59] So.
[2:57:00] If you have a closing comment, now that's fine, but we have more meetings.
[2:57:03] Okay.
[2:57:05] After five weeks, we're in agreement because the city council will now be in a closing
[2:57:08] executive session.
[2:57:09] For so much of the following visions of the text.
[2:57:10] We'll meet yet.
[2:57:11] Section five.
[2:57:12] To one point.
[2:57:13] Oh, seven.
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[2:57:38] Read.
[2:57:39] Read.
[2:57:40] Press Center as if anything on items discussion
[2:57:41] inviting you, session.
[2:57:43] Two.
[2:57:44] See has re-called executive session.
[2:57:46] Is that mine, OK?
[2:57:49] I'd like to make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute the memor rather
[2:57:53] window of understanding with text dot concerning transfer of us 1803.
[2:57:58] Right of way associated with the bill by the violent project.
[2:58:02] Second. Motion in a second, any discussion? Hearing none, those in favor say aye. Aye.
[2:58:10] Opposed? No? Motion carries. Anything else? Nothing, furthermore. Thank you very much.
[2:58:15] I don't have, sorry. Excuse me up to date on the screen. Please call. Sorry?
[2:58:24] I usually cheat off the screen each time. Mary, how's the closing comments?
[2:58:31] Did you have closing comments? I did. I've been anticipated. I'd like to have an agenda item for the next one to nominate Ramonocar as my 4B appointee.
[2:58:41] Okay.
[2:58:47] So, late one, let's get job everyone.
[2:58:51] Okay.
[2:58:53] Okay.