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I still think it's afternoon

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just in case you didn't realize

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that we needed more people to

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come and sing to us.

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You're welcome to come down and

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be a part of our opportunities

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to have people come in and

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serve our city as the people

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that we all really know that

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we're doing.

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So I love the signs on my that

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is that's great.

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Reminds me of my old church

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buildings and what I used to

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do.

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But anyway never work.

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I'm bylaws and I serve was a

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member of this council and what

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we want to do is start off with

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a welcome and a call to order

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and so why don't we start with

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our city clerk?

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I mean it's our council member

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I'm sorry a city clerk here we

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are billy tines, deputy city

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clerk carrie hagler gray senior

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assistant city attorney mayor

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at-large member victoria

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watlington at large julie mayo

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representing district three

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dante anderson and congratulate

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us to the carolina hurricanes

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from the state with and it's

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just one loving it all right

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allison craig deputy city

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manager law serving as mayor

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james mitchell mayor pro tem I

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have to say a special shout out

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to my lovely queen will be

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celebrating our 14 forward

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anniversary tomorrow.

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I love you very oh, that is

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great.

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>> I wouldn't know how much you

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paid for that.

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She's a great woman.

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He never tells people that she

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was one of the very first

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astronauts truly in this in our

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country and so I think that's a

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big year for me.

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>> so thank you.

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And so now I've lost where we.

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>> all right.

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Kimberly owens representing

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district six malcolm graham,

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district two at drake's

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district seven the want to

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mayfield council member at

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large I want to thank our

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charlotte crowd yes

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congratulate them because they

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did win yesterday.

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>> all right jd MR. Arias

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probably representing the east

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side district five and go next

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to new york.

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>> good afternoon.

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I'm rene johnson and I'm

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honored to represent district

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four.

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>> I want to say that we begin

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our meeting with an invocation

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which includes express your

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expressions and inspiration

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followed by the pledge of

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allegiance.

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The invocation is by the city

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council member and is intended

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to solemnize our proceedings.

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We celebrate all of us but we

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also understand that there is

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diversity in what we do with

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our faith and we make sure that

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everyone has the opportunity to

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be proud of whatever faith they

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choose and we will do that.

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And so we tonight have a

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religious program about this

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for our using council member

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johnson to open our act our

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opportunities for beginning to

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work with what we're doing

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tonight.

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MS. Johnson thank you, madam

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mayor.

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And when we come back on our

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heads if you'd like and

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otherwise just a moment of

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silence.

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Heavenly father, we come

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together with gratitude for the

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opportunity to serve our

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community.

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We ask for your presence among

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us and for your wisdom to guide

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our thoughts, decisions and our

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actions.

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Grant us the clarity when faced

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with difficult choices courage

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when challenges arise and

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humility as we seek the

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well-being of those entrusted

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to our care help us to lead

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with integrity, compassion and

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fairness always mindful of the

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diverse needs and hopes of our

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community.

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>> place your protection over

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our leaders, our families, our

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first responders, our schools,

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businesses and our residents

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and all who call this community

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home keep us safe from harm,

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strengthen us in times of

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uncertainty and unite us in a

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spirit of cooperation and of

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mutual respect.

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MAY we be instruments of peace,

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builders of trust and faithful

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stewards of the resources and

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opportunities before us.

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Guide us to work together for

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the common good and to create a

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future marked by justice,

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prosperity and hope.

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We ask for your continued

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blessing, protection and

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guidance as we serve.

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>> amen.

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Amen.

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Thank you all.

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If you don't if you choose to

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be take along a pledge of

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allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the

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american and to the republic

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for which it stands one nation

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under GOD and justice for all.

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>> thank you all.

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All right.

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So we are going to do a brief

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crumb first to agree a brief as

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consent around explanation of

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the zoning process.

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It's I think most of you

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probably already know that.

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But we're going to use the make

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sure that we have the

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opportunity so that the

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questions or comments come up

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and prepare for that.

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So the rezoning process begins

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with applications submitted to

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the planning staff for review.

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the agenda decisions and

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hearings.

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Decisions are on cases for

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which a public hearing has

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previously been held and

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there'll be no further comments

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for public hearings.

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Anyone wishing to speak is

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asked to see the clerk before

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the start of our hearing staff

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will provide a presentation and

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the petitioner will have three

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minutes combined to present the

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case unless there are opponents

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signed up to speak or our staff

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is in opposition if they are

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and if there are opponents

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assigned to stand up to speak

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or the staff is in opposition

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the petitioner will have ten

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minutes to present followed by

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opposition suit speakers who

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will have ten minutes combined

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to present and the petitioner

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has a two minute rebuttal no

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one if no one is signed up to

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presentation and the public

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hearing MAY then be closed.

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So with that I'm going to turn

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it over to douglas who would

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add I believe help us

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understand how many people are

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supporting you and all of the

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work that they do for our city.

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>> douglas thank you very much,

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MADAM Mayor.

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My name is W.C. Welton and I am

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the CHAIRMAN Of the zoning

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committee of the planning

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commission.

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Allow me to introduce my fellow

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commissioners and they include

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melissa gaston, aaron shaw,

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teresa macdonald, robin stewart

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and carolyn millen.

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And right next to me today

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michael caprio only.

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The zoning committee will meet

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on tuesday AUGUST fourth at

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At that meeting the zoning

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committee will discuss and make

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recommendations on the

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petitions that have a public

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hearing here tonight.

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The public is welcome to that

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meeting but please note it is

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not a continuation of the

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public hearing that is being

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held right now.

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Prior to that meeting if you

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are you are welcome to contact

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us and provide input.

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information and information on

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each one of the petitions that

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is being heard here tonight at

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the city's website at charlotte

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planning.Org.

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Thank you very much MADAM Mayor

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>> it is all yours.

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Thank you very much for the

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work that you do for our

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So the next item that we want

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to do is deferrals and

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withdrawals and that's going to

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be done with holly kramer who

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reads this and makes it come

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alive for us.

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>> so thank you.

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So we have a couple of

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deferrals to go through.

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I'm number 11 petition 25 dash

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series 37 by short development

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group requesting a deferral to

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their of their decision to the

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AUGUST 17th meeting which is

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our next zoning meeting just as

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a reminder since we do not have

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one in JULY.

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Item number 12 requesting a

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deferral.

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This is petition 1430 5-0 86 by

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pence for development

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requesting deferral of their

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decision to AUGUST 17th.

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I'm number 15 petition 2025 133

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by michael barnes.

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Also requesting deferral of

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their decision to AUGUST 17th

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and finally we have item number

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17 decision 20 6-0 27 by sea

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for investments requesting

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deferral of their public

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hearing to the AUGUST 17th

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>> so all right.

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Do we have a motion for

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deferral?

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So move my second motion and a

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second all in favor please

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raise your hand.

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Anyone in opposition hearing

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none.

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That's our next step and then

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we will go to the rezoning

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petition items.

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Number three through ten of the

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consent agenda MAY be

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considered in one motion except

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for those items pulled by a

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council member.

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Please note that these petition

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petition ends meet the

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following criteria.

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Had no public opposition to the

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petition during the hearing

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staff recommends approval

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zoning committee recommends

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approval and there are no

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further changes to the zoning

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committee's report

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recommendation.

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Do we have anyone that would

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like I see MS. Mayfield would

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like to have comments.

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Item number four for separate

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vote and comment.

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>> right.

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We have an item number for

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petition 2025 141 by doorway I

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can't speak for now so correct

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name dalmiya I guess and they

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will be one of the petitions

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that we will have for

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consistency.

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Thank you.

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I mean that consistency and

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separate vote.

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All right so four items from

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okay MS. Johnson I'm sorry.

329
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That's okay.

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I items number or agenda item

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number six and seven.

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All right so two additional to

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exclude and have a petition on

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six and seven thurman brooks

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and good properties is that the

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correct one MR. Okay well

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that'll be coming up as well.

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Okay so for the 2 to 3 so we

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have three and I'm trying to

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make sure we have 335 all right

341
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good.

342
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Yeah it's nine and ten.

343
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Yes.

344
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All right.

345
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So here we go.

346
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The next thing is MAY I have a

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motion to approve the petition

348
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with those that we've

349
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recommended not be done?

350
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>> so of my second we have a

351
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vote and a second all in favor

352
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.

353
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>> you need to read this.

354
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We need to read all of the

355
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names to petition.

356
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Item number three petition 25

357
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dash 31 with queen city land

358
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llc item four petition to amend

359
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I'm sorry five go to five

360
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petition 20 204 by shoot

361
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chowder demo now I'm not doing

362
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that very well but we'll do the

363
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very best I can.

364
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All right.

365
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And eight, nine and ten are

366
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also set set up for on 20.

367
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All right.

368
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We had thurman books good

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properties had by had holdings

370
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llc that's also in can also and

371
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consent and avatar holding llc

372
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as well and petition by

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orangeburg media for the

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charlotte hornets.

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With that we'll move on to the

376
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next as we go there is no I

377
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don't have a motion second

378
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second all in favor anyone

379
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opposed?

380
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>> all right sorry.

381
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>> can I just get the motion to

382
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clear to adopt the zoning

383
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committee statement of

384
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consistency he she wanted to

385
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add that kind of stuff in the

386
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motion for multiple things at

387
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one time.

388
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>> so the motion saying and to

389
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approve the consent agenda and

390
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adopt the zoning committee

391
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statement or consistency yes we

392
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will do that.

393
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We're going to approve the

394
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petition for the agenda for

395
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excluding those petitions and

396
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that they were pulled for a

397
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separate vote and we're going

398
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to adopt the zoning committee

399
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statement of consistency for

400
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each as these petitions as they

401
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appear on our agendas as the

402
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council their own.

403
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:46,421
Yeah.

404
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All right.

405
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Let's so much for for I really

406
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do I did yes I do you going to

407
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do item for councilmember

408
00:15:10,478 --> 00:15:13,715
mayfield so I'm not going to

409
00:15:13,715 --> 00:15:14,315
motion for this to be approved

410
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so someone at the I want to

411
00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:15,883
prove they need to make a

412
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motion because I'm speaking to

413
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it so I will move to approve

414
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it.

415
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So we have a motion to approve

416
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and we did I hear a second.

417
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All right.

418
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We have a second now discussion

419
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and now we have a second right.

420
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>> thank you, MADAM Chair.

421
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So I have concerns on this

422
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particular petition for a quiet

423
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this is a single family street

424
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that we are talking about at

425
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the corner basically creating

426
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an apartment complex, many

427
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apartment complex down on the

428
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end of this where we currently

429
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have two single family homes as

430
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we're looking at attempt to do

431
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infill this to me is not

432
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infill.

433
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I've had concerns regarding udl

434
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and the impact that judoka have

435
00:16:12,508 --> 00:16:16,679
so when we talk about that this

436
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request is going chroma in 1b2I

437
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am one see everyone see this

438
00:16:20,115 --> 00:16:22,515
district allows for single

439
00:16:22,885 --> 00:16:23,585
family duplex triplex and

440
00:16:23,585 --> 00:16:25,985
complexes in some situations

441
00:16:26,421 --> 00:16:28,124
basically only thing we did is

442
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reduce the lot size from

443
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8000ft to 6000ft or greater

444
00:16:32,662 --> 00:16:34,797
but this does not specify

445
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exactly what is going to be

446
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right and I will clarify they

447
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wouldn't be able to do a

448
00:16:38,701 --> 00:16:39,268
quadruple plex on this site

449
00:16:39,268 --> 00:16:41,700
because they'd have to be

450
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located along an arterial road

451
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for this zoning district unless

452
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you're doing the in one

453
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standing district for all the

454
00:16:48,411 --> 00:16:50,246
other in one districts you'd

455
00:16:50,246 --> 00:16:50,947
have to be located on a

456
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frontage type that this does

457
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not qualify as.

458
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>> so that is not what I

459
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language this so the fact that

460
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our language does not clarify

461
00:16:59,722 --> 00:17:01,957
that what our language has on

462
00:17:01,957 --> 00:17:04,461
the planning staff review is

463
00:17:04,461 --> 00:17:04,961
what the existing zoning is and

464
00:17:04,961 --> 00:17:07,361
what qualifies what the

465
00:17:07,531 --> 00:17:07,797
proposed zoning is and what

466
00:17:07,797 --> 00:17:09,797
qualifies.

467
00:17:10,734 --> 00:17:13,169
And then we have the proposed

468
00:17:13,169 --> 00:17:15,805
request this details but we

469
00:17:15,805 --> 00:17:16,439
also know that this is a

470
00:17:16,439 --> 00:17:18,439
conventional rezoning petition

471
00:17:18,641 --> 00:17:21,278
with no associated site plan.

472
00:17:21,278 --> 00:17:23,914
So there is no language in here

473
00:17:23,914 --> 00:17:26,283
where we state what it cannot

474
00:17:26,283 --> 00:17:29,152
be according to was here in one

475
00:17:29,152 --> 00:17:32,122
c this district allows for a

476
00:17:32,122 --> 00:17:34,522
single family duplex triplex

477
00:17:34,624 --> 00:17:37,895
and quads are plexus so it

478
00:17:37,895 --> 00:17:40,865
doesn't specify since there is

479
00:17:40,865 --> 00:17:43,367
no associated site plan what

480
00:17:43,367 --> 00:17:45,803
this cannot be right so and

481
00:17:45,803 --> 00:17:46,403
that language is put in there

482
00:17:46,403 --> 00:17:49,403
to describe what the zoning

483
00:17:49,539 --> 00:17:50,140
districts allow for and the

484
00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:52,109
language does state in some

485
00:17:52,109 --> 00:17:54,109
situations quadruple taxes

486
00:17:55,178 --> 00:17:55,713
which is applicable here it is

487
00:17:55,713 --> 00:17:56,280
the situation in which a

488
00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,480
quadriplegics would not be

489
00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:58,816
allowed to wear.

490
00:17:58,816 --> 00:18:00,651
We keep that language in there

491
00:18:00,651 --> 00:18:03,530
to describe the intent of all

492
00:18:03,530 --> 00:18:05,789
of our zoning districts to give

493
00:18:05,789 --> 00:18:06,490
you an idea of what they could

494
00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:09,393
aspire to essentially and their

495
00:18:09,393 --> 00:18:09,960
maximum development levels just

496
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,262
so that there isn't any

497
00:18:12,262 --> 00:18:12,897
illusion about what could be

498
00:18:12,897 --> 00:18:15,433
developed and where's the line

499
00:18:15,433 --> 00:18:18,302
that says what is not going to

500
00:18:18,302 --> 00:18:18,770
be this is as you noted, a

501
00:18:18,770 --> 00:18:20,638
conventional petition.

502
00:18:20,638 --> 00:18:23,638
So there's no description and

503
00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:24,708
clarification and focuses I see

504
00:18:24,708 --> 00:18:27,378
as I mentioned because what

505
00:18:27,378 --> 00:18:29,713
happens is what's in the

506
00:18:29,713 --> 00:18:32,517
contract so not having any

507
00:18:32,517 --> 00:18:33,151
language that actually

508
00:18:33,151 --> 00:18:36,200
identifies what you just share

509
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,955
as far as what is not going to

510
00:18:37,955 --> 00:18:42,155
be in 3 to 5 years a very well

511
00:18:42,894 --> 00:18:43,627
could be acquired and what the

512
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developer and or community will

513
00:18:46,397 --> 00:18:48,767
read is this language because

514
00:18:48,767 --> 00:18:49,400
the language that you just

515
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,736
stated without actually being

516
00:18:51,736 --> 00:18:54,736
in writing doesn't go anywhere.

517
00:18:54,939 --> 00:18:55,306
I had a lot of ideas around

518
00:18:55,306 --> 00:18:56,975
with a district.

519
00:18:56,975 --> 00:18:57,375
Guess what it didn't make it

520
00:18:57,375 --> 00:18:59,143
into the contract.

521
00:18:59,143 --> 00:18:59,577
So therefore isn't that ballot

522
00:18:59,577 --> 00:19:01,577
seven years later?

523
00:19:02,113 --> 00:19:04,482
So for that reason and because

524
00:19:04,482 --> 00:19:05,249
it is not clearly stated which

525
00:19:05,249 --> 00:19:08,520
we have done where we have

526
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,555
except since we clearly type a

527
00:19:10,555 --> 00:19:11,189
little line in air regarding

528
00:19:11,189 --> 00:19:12,991
exceptions because that is not

529
00:19:12,991 --> 00:19:13,658
in here.

530
00:19:13,658 --> 00:19:16,361
That is why I have concerns

531
00:19:16,361 --> 00:19:16,961
when you look at this single

532
00:19:16,961 --> 00:19:19,361
family residential street and

533
00:19:19,764 --> 00:19:22,164
imagine that there potentially

534
00:19:22,433 --> 00:19:23,100
can be because it's

535
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:23,669
conventional and there's no

536
00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:25,404
site you're saying it can't be

537
00:19:25,404 --> 00:19:28,540
who not is not written there

538
00:19:28,540 --> 00:19:29,174
could not be a quadriplegics on

539
00:19:29,174 --> 00:19:31,276
this site unless the uda were

540
00:19:31,276 --> 00:19:34,790
to be changed to allow for

541
00:19:34,790 --> 00:19:34,679
quadruple access because this

542
00:19:34,679 --> 00:19:37,449
is on cochran drive which is

543
00:19:37,449 --> 00:19:40,319
not an arterial the prescribe

544
00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:40,886
conditions of a quadriplegics

545
00:19:40,886 --> 00:19:43,286
for this zoning district

546
00:19:43,622 --> 00:19:43,856
stipulate that it has to be

547
00:19:43,856 --> 00:19:44,457
located.

548
00:19:44,457 --> 00:19:46,592
The site would have to be

549
00:19:46,592 --> 00:19:48,927
located on an arterial this is

550
00:19:48,927 --> 00:19:51,927
not an arterial frontage thank

551
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,640
you.

552
00:19:55,267 --> 00:19:55,901
We have a motion on the floor

553
00:19:55,901 --> 00:19:58,237
and second all those in favor

554
00:19:58,237 --> 00:19:58,504
of this petition please raise

555
00:19:58,504 --> 00:20:00,504
your hand.

556
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,100
>> all those opposed to an

557
00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:04,343
opposition.

558
00:20:04,343 --> 00:20:04,643
>> okay.

559
00:20:04,643 --> 00:20:05,344
Thank you.

560
00:20:05,344 --> 00:20:09,181
MAY I have a motion to approve?

561
00:20:09,181 --> 00:20:11,181
Petition number 2026 005I

562
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:12,584
thurman brooks and to adopt the

563
00:20:12,584 --> 00:20:14,584
zoning committee committee

564
00:20:15,187 --> 00:20:15,755
standard consistency for each

565
00:20:15,755 --> 00:20:17,757
of these petition as they

566
00:20:17,757 --> 00:20:20,159
appear now agendas as the

567
00:20:20,159 --> 00:20:23,159
council zone so move move

568
00:20:23,162 --> 00:20:23,863
moving proper second I question

569
00:20:23,863 --> 00:20:26,320
I think this was poor by

570
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,665
council johnson that

571
00:20:26,665 --> 00:20:28,534
councilmember johnson thank you

572
00:20:28,534 --> 00:20:30,803
mayor pro tem speaking of

573
00:20:30,803 --> 00:20:33,306
exceptions we talked about it

574
00:20:33,306 --> 00:20:36,109
and was in language added

575
00:20:36,109 --> 00:20:39,120
regarding this petition yes so

576
00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:39,612
as you likely recall at the

577
00:20:39,612 --> 00:20:42,612
public hearing you asked about

578
00:20:42,615 --> 00:20:43,249
the data center use in this

579
00:20:43,249 --> 00:20:45,649
zoning district they converted

580
00:20:45,952 --> 00:20:48,721
to a conditional type petition

581
00:20:48,721 --> 00:20:50,721
to prohibit telecommunications

582
00:20:51,358 --> 00:20:52,125
and data storage facilities

583
00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:53,994
which is the data center use in

584
00:20:53,994 --> 00:20:54,628
our udl.

585
00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:57,628
Thank you because the only

586
00:20:57,697 --> 00:20:58,331
condition of the plan but that

587
00:20:58,331 --> 00:21:00,267
is now a prohibited use on the

588
00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:00,900
site because originally it was

589
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,702
filed as a conventional right

590
00:21:02,702 --> 00:21:03,236
is correct and like

591
00:21:03,236 --> 00:21:05,236
councilmember mayfield was

592
00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:06,720
saying with conventional we

593
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:06,305
just don't get a lot of

594
00:21:06,305 --> 00:21:08,305
details.

595
00:21:11,578 --> 00:21:14,314
I don't know why we're moving

596
00:21:14,314 --> 00:21:15,150
toward that more but I

597
00:21:15,150 --> 00:21:17,784
appreciate the change and the

598
00:21:17,784 --> 00:21:18,840
the language so I will be

599
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,200
supporting.

600
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,200
Thank you.

601
00:21:22,522 --> 00:21:23,223
any more discussion?

602
00:21:23,223 --> 00:21:25,259
All those in favor petition

603
00:21:25,259 --> 00:21:27,761
please raise your hand although

604
00:21:27,761 --> 00:21:27,995
oppose.

605
00:21:27,995 --> 00:21:28,295
>> okay.

606
00:21:28,295 --> 00:21:30,295
Thank you.

607
00:21:30,898 --> 00:21:34,167
I have a motion to approve

608
00:21:34,167 --> 00:21:36,567
petition number 2020 6-006 buy

609
00:21:36,903 --> 00:21:37,537
good properties and to adopt

610
00:21:37,537 --> 00:21:39,937
the zoning committee standard

611
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:40,707
statement of consistency for

612
00:21:40,707 --> 00:21:43,144
each of these petition as they

613
00:21:43,144 --> 00:21:46,113
appear and agendas as the

614
00:21:46,113 --> 00:21:48,513
council's own council member

615
00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:50,217
just the second the move by

616
00:21:50,217 --> 00:21:51,652
council member male second and

617
00:21:51,652 --> 00:21:52,186
councilmember anderson I'm a

618
00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:54,186
recognized council member

619
00:21:54,488 --> 00:21:55,189
johnson thank you mayor pro tem

620
00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:57,758
same question this is a

621
00:21:57,758 --> 00:22:00,158
conventional we talked about

622
00:22:00,662 --> 00:22:03,464
this this is the the old

623
00:22:03,464 --> 00:22:06,330
medical office and they want to

624
00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:06,300
keep it some type of medical

625
00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:06,500
facility.

626
00:22:06,500 --> 00:22:08,202
Right.

627
00:22:08,202 --> 00:22:10,202
That I understand.

628
00:22:10,804 --> 00:22:11,439
>> well, so as you said, it is

629
00:22:11,439 --> 00:22:13,839
conventional so they wouldn't

630
00:22:14,341 --> 00:22:16,510
be obligated to disclose that

631
00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:17,244
or note that at this time.

632
00:22:17,244 --> 00:22:19,781
But during their public hearing

633
00:22:19,781 --> 00:22:22,683
they did say that they are

634
00:22:22,683 --> 00:22:23,317
wanting to keep the urgent care

635
00:22:23,317 --> 00:22:25,219
facility that's on that site

636
00:22:25,219 --> 00:22:25,887
and that just utilize better

637
00:22:25,887 --> 00:22:28,322
the portions of the site that

638
00:22:28,322 --> 00:22:28,522
don't have anything developed

639
00:22:28,522 --> 00:22:30,522
on it.

640
00:22:31,492 --> 00:22:33,360
I think that's the intent of

641
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,360
the petitioner.

642
00:22:36,131 --> 00:22:38,700
>> and is this zoning type

643
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:39,234
would this allow data centers?

644
00:22:39,234 --> 00:22:39,434
>> no, it would none.

645
00:22:39,434 --> 00:22:41,434
Okay.

646
00:22:41,803 --> 00:22:42,300
And that's what I wanted to

647
00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:42,337
know.

648
00:22:42,337 --> 00:22:44,337
Thank you.

649
00:22:44,539 --> 00:22:47,208
I'll be supporting this more

650
00:22:47,208 --> 00:22:47,742
question all those in favor

651
00:22:47,742 --> 00:22:49,742
rezoning petition please.

652
00:22:52,981 --> 00:22:55,717
Assurance all those oppose now

653
00:22:55,717 --> 00:22:56,385
I just would take the time the

654
00:22:56,385 --> 00:22:58,220
mayor would like for COUNCILMAN

655
00:22:58,220 --> 00:22:58,854
Manderson to continue to run

656
00:22:58,854 --> 00:23:01,220
the zoning committee meeting.

657
00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:01,590
I'm turning over council member

658
00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:04,392
anderson thank you mayor pro

659
00:23:04,392 --> 00:23:07,362
tem and we will now advance to

660
00:23:07,362 --> 00:23:09,864
our non consent decisions and

661
00:23:09,864 --> 00:23:12,864
we'll begin with item number 13

662
00:23:14,236 --> 00:23:16,236
petition number 25 027 by

663
00:23:16,905 --> 00:23:18,907
mission city church and freedom

664
00:23:18,907 --> 00:23:20,907
communities.

665
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:24,879
This one had changes since the

666
00:23:24,879 --> 00:23:25,480
zoning committee made their

667
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,880
recommendation and council is

668
00:23:28,317 --> 00:23:30,553
required to send the petition

669
00:23:30,553 --> 00:23:33,553
back to zoning for further

670
00:23:35,257 --> 00:23:35,958
review unless council by a

671
00:23:35,958 --> 00:23:38,627
three fourths vote of all

672
00:23:38,627 --> 00:23:41,270
members present presented a

673
00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:41,530
determination that it doesn't

674
00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:43,865
need to go back.

675
00:23:43,865 --> 00:23:46,269
So I'm going to hand it over to

676
00:23:46,269 --> 00:23:46,769
MS. Cramer so she can walk

677
00:23:46,769 --> 00:23:47,200
through those changes.

678
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,200
>> yes.

679
00:23:49,538 --> 00:23:50,139
This petition or revise these

680
00:23:50,139 --> 00:23:52,441
notes on their conditional

681
00:23:52,441 --> 00:23:55,100
planned to add that new parking

682
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,279
signage will be installed along

683
00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:57,980
sommerville road and oak street

684
00:23:57,980 --> 00:24:00,682
and they'll be installed on the

685
00:24:00,682 --> 00:24:01,316
odd numbered side of somerville

686
00:24:01,316 --> 00:24:03,453
from valley dale road up to

687
00:24:03,453 --> 00:24:04,120
edge street and the new parking

688
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,722
signs will be installed on the

689
00:24:05,722 --> 00:24:06,389
even numbered side of oak

690
00:24:06,389 --> 00:24:09,125
street from somerville road to

691
00:24:09,125 --> 00:24:09,892
freddie alexander boulevard.

692
00:24:09,892 --> 00:24:12,295
I understand that there is some

693
00:24:12,295 --> 00:24:12,895
conversations happening in the

694
00:24:12,895 --> 00:24:14,563
community in regard to this.

695
00:24:14,563 --> 00:24:15,398
So stuart trust those concerns.

696
00:24:15,398 --> 00:24:17,800
We believe that the change is

697
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,467
minor and does not warrant

698
00:24:18,467 --> 00:24:20,403
additional review by the zoning

699
00:24:20,403 --> 00:24:20,770
committee.

700
00:24:20,770 --> 00:24:22,770
Thank you.

701
00:24:24,474 --> 00:24:25,942
is there a motion to not send

702
00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:26,176
back to the zoning board of

703
00:24:26,176 --> 00:24:26,406
second?

704
00:24:26,406 --> 00:24:28,406
Okay.

705
00:24:28,978 --> 00:24:29,479
All in favor of not sending

706
00:24:29,479 --> 00:24:29,746
back oh, I'm sorry MISS

707
00:24:29,746 --> 00:24:31,746
Mayfield.

708
00:24:31,814 --> 00:24:32,181
Have a question.

709
00:24:32,181 --> 00:24:34,181
>> thank you.

710
00:24:34,317 --> 00:24:36,986
So question was there because

711
00:24:36,986 --> 00:24:39,489
I'm looking at an email that

712
00:24:39,489 --> 00:24:40,123
was sent regarding the family

713
00:24:40,123 --> 00:24:42,993
dollar deed of easement with

714
00:24:42,993 --> 00:24:45,962
that MAY not be a part of this

715
00:24:45,962 --> 00:24:48,131
conversation and as far as

716
00:24:48,131 --> 00:24:50,531
additional information I'm I'm

717
00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:53,936
familiar with the email you

718
00:24:53,936 --> 00:24:54,570
might be okay you have a

719
00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:56,206
receipt you did me say that I

720
00:24:56,206 --> 00:24:58,606
do not believe so.

721
00:24:59,476 --> 00:25:01,476
Thank you.

722
00:25:02,145 --> 00:25:02,913
Any other comment hearing none.

723
00:25:02,913 --> 00:25:07,113
All in favor raise hand to not

724
00:25:07,918 --> 00:25:08,451
send back any oppose all right.

725
00:25:08,451 --> 00:25:10,451
That is unanimous.

726
00:25:10,954 --> 00:25:14,554
Is there a motion to approve

727
00:25:14,558 --> 00:25:15,159
petition number 2025 027 and

728
00:25:15,159 --> 00:25:17,559
adopt the zoning committee's

729
00:25:17,761 --> 00:25:20,761
statement of consistency as it

730
00:25:20,798 --> 00:25:21,432
appears in our agenda and on

731
00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:23,660
the screen as council's own.

732
00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:23,333
So move second.

733
00:25:23,333 --> 00:25:25,333
>> okay.

734
00:25:25,502 --> 00:25:25,869
Any comment?

735
00:25:25,869 --> 00:25:27,869
MR. Graham?

736
00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:30,710
Thank you councilmember

737
00:25:30,341 --> 00:25:31,209
innocent I had the opportunity

738
00:25:31,209 --> 00:25:34,110
yet again to go to the site

739
00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:37,148
last week and visit with the

740
00:25:37,148 --> 00:25:37,781
petitioner, members of the

741
00:25:37,781 --> 00:25:40,781
congregation as well as those

742
00:25:42,285 --> 00:25:42,586
who are still oppose of this

743
00:25:42,586 --> 00:25:44,586
rezoning.

744
00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:47,570
This is one that's been with us

745
00:25:47,570 --> 00:25:47,659
for well over a year for the

746
00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,610
petitioner and the church has

747
00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:53,610
made a number of considerations

748
00:25:53,264 --> 00:25:53,497
of on behalf of being a good

749
00:25:53,497 --> 00:25:55,497
citizen.

750
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,400
You heard tonight additional

751
00:25:58,769 --> 00:26:01,769
language that they're trying to

752
00:26:01,906 --> 00:26:02,539
do to ensure that this is and

753
00:26:02,539 --> 00:26:04,808
compliance with the local

754
00:26:04,808 --> 00:26:07,208
community standards over there.

755
00:26:07,212 --> 00:26:07,846
It goes without saying this is

756
00:26:07,846 --> 00:26:10,846
a policy that still continues

757
00:26:13,785 --> 00:26:15,787
to to grow and still has a lot

758
00:26:15,787 --> 00:26:16,287
of state owned roads that make

759
00:26:16,287 --> 00:26:18,287
our rezoning decisions

760
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:19,757
difficult at best.

761
00:26:19,757 --> 00:26:21,659
But this is one that I'm going

762
00:26:21,659 --> 00:26:24,629
to give a nod yes to.

763
00:26:24,629 --> 00:26:24,930
I hope that the council will do

764
00:26:24,930 --> 00:26:25,330
the same.

765
00:26:25,330 --> 00:26:27,650
Thank you, MS..

766
00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:27,465
Mayfield.

767
00:26:27,465 --> 00:26:29,465
>> no comment.

768
00:26:29,934 --> 00:26:30,268
No comment.

769
00:26:30,268 --> 00:26:32,268
All right.

770
00:26:32,504 --> 00:26:32,904
Any other comment?

771
00:26:32,904 --> 00:26:34,904
>> hearing none.

772
00:26:35,273 --> 00:26:35,406
All in favor please raise hands

773
00:26:35,406 --> 00:26:37,406
.

774
00:26:38,309 --> 00:26:40,579
>> any oppose you have, MR.

775
00:26:40,579 --> 00:26:43,215
Mayfield that is opposed and so

776
00:26:43,215 --> 00:26:46,815
we will now advance to item

777
00:26:46,818 --> 00:26:48,686
number 14 petition number 2025

778
00:26:48,686 --> 00:26:51,860
058 by studio one nine

779
00:26:51,356 --> 00:26:52,223
architecture plc.

780
00:26:52,223 --> 00:26:54,225
It also has some changes since

781
00:26:54,225 --> 00:26:56,625
the zoning committees made

782
00:26:57,128 --> 00:26:57,763
their recommendation and as I

783
00:26:57,763 --> 00:27:00,466
just mentioned we are required

784
00:27:00,466 --> 00:27:02,768
to have three fourths of vote

785
00:27:02,768 --> 00:27:03,535
to not send back at this time

786
00:27:03,535 --> 00:27:05,804
and pass it back over to MS.

787
00:27:05,804 --> 00:27:06,380
Cramer so she can share the

788
00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:06,371
changes.

789
00:27:06,371 --> 00:27:08,371
>> thank you.

790
00:27:08,473 --> 00:27:09,474
Thank you.

791
00:27:09,474 --> 00:27:11,209
So this is for a proposal for a

792
00:27:11,209 --> 00:27:13,209
multifamily attached townhome

793
00:27:13,378 --> 00:27:13,778
style dwelling units after

794
00:27:13,778 --> 00:27:15,778
zoning committee's

795
00:27:16,515 --> 00:27:17,830
recommendation they were trying

796
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:19,483
to address some outstanding

797
00:27:19,952 --> 00:27:22,454
issues and in order to comply

798
00:27:22,454 --> 00:27:24,723
with some tree save

799
00:27:24,723 --> 00:27:25,391
requirements but also meet the

800
00:27:25,391 --> 00:27:25,824
street extension that is coming

801
00:27:25,824 --> 00:27:27,824
through their site.

802
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,728
They had to reduce dwelling

803
00:27:29,728 --> 00:27:31,728
units from 20 to 16.

804
00:27:32,197 --> 00:27:32,899
They also just meet a small

805
00:27:32,899 --> 00:27:35,899
technical revision to note that

806
00:27:35,968 --> 00:27:38,704
maximum height would be defined

807
00:27:38,704 --> 00:27:39,405
by the adu we believe that the

808
00:27:39,405 --> 00:27:41,440
changes are minor and do not

809
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,542
warrant needing to be sent back

810
00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:43,909
to the zoning committee.

811
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:45,909
>> thank you.

812
00:27:46,612 --> 00:27:47,246
Is there a motion not to send

813
00:27:47,246 --> 00:27:48,547
back to the zoning committee?

814
00:27:48,547 --> 00:27:48,780
>> move second.

815
00:27:48,780 --> 00:27:50,780
Okay.

816
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:51,351
Any discussion?

817
00:27:51,351 --> 00:27:53,351
Hearing none.

818
00:27:53,453 --> 00:27:53,686
All in favor raise hands any

819
00:27:53,686 --> 00:27:55,686
opposed?

820
00:27:56,589 --> 00:27:58,589
That is unanimous.

821
00:27:59,325 --> 00:28:01,127
Is there a motion to approve

822
00:28:01,127 --> 00:28:03,127
petition number 2025 058 and

823
00:28:03,762 --> 00:28:04,430
adopt the zoning committee

824
00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:07,132
statement of consistency as it

825
00:28:07,132 --> 00:28:07,434
appears in our agenda and on

826
00:28:07,434 --> 00:28:07,801
the screen.

827
00:28:07,801 --> 00:28:09,801
So move second.

828
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,360
Okay.

829
00:28:13,139 --> 00:28:15,539
Any comment hearing none.

830
00:28:15,808 --> 00:28:18,945
>> all in favor raise hands any

831
00:28:18,945 --> 00:28:21,345
opposed that is unanimous.

832
00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:28,283
>> so now we will see hear we

833
00:28:28,622 --> 00:28:30,890
will move on to item 16.

834
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:34,490
Is there a motion to approve

835
00:28:34,794 --> 00:28:36,794
petition number 2025 meeting

836
00:28:38,231 --> 00:28:40,166
one three I'm sorry 15 and get

837
00:28:40,166 --> 00:28:40,433
the final list if you get

838
00:28:40,433 --> 00:28:42,433
together.

839
00:28:42,536 --> 00:28:42,703
Thank you.

840
00:28:42,703 --> 00:28:43,370
Yes.

841
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:46,970
Is there a motion to approve?

842
00:28:47,674 --> 00:28:49,674
Petition number 2025 133 and

843
00:28:49,876 --> 00:28:50,577
adopt the zoning committee

844
00:28:50,577 --> 00:28:53,413
statement of consistency as it

845
00:28:53,413 --> 00:28:53,646
approves as it appears in our

846
00:28:53,646 --> 00:28:55,646
agenda.

847
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:57,217
>> sorry 13636136.

848
00:28:57,217 --> 00:28:57,584
Yes.

849
00:28:57,584 --> 00:28:59,552
I'm sorry.

850
00:28:59,552 --> 00:29:01,552
Yes.

851
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,623
petition number 2025 136 and

852
00:29:02,623 --> 00:29:04,658
adopt the zoning committee

853
00:29:04,658 --> 00:29:05,325
statement of consistency as it

854
00:29:05,325 --> 00:29:08,925
approves as it appears on our

855
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:10,430
agenda so moved second.

856
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:11,865
All right.

857
00:29:11,865 --> 00:29:14,468
We have a motion in a second.

858
00:29:14,468 --> 00:29:14,801
Any comment, MISS Johnson?

859
00:29:14,801 --> 00:29:16,801
Thank you.

860
00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:20,241
Council member anderson I had

861
00:29:20,241 --> 00:29:20,975
the pleasure of meeting MR. And

862
00:29:20,975 --> 00:29:23,244
MRS. Cooper larry and that I

863
00:29:23,244 --> 00:29:23,711
think I saw them.

864
00:29:23,711 --> 00:29:23,878
Did I see them?

865
00:29:23,878 --> 00:29:25,579
Yes.

866
00:29:25,579 --> 00:29:26,246
Thank you.

867
00:29:26,246 --> 00:29:26,413
I look forward to supporting

868
00:29:26,413 --> 00:29:28,349
it.

869
00:29:28,349 --> 00:29:30,584
This is a couple this is their

870
00:29:30,584 --> 00:29:33,620
property and their and this is

871
00:29:33,620 --> 00:29:34,321
when the idea was approved.

872
00:29:34,321 --> 00:29:36,357
These this is one of the one of

873
00:29:36,357 --> 00:29:36,958
the benefits of the udot allows

874
00:29:36,958 --> 00:29:38,958
individuals flexibility with

875
00:29:40,294 --> 00:29:40,928
their lots so when we talk

876
00:29:40,928 --> 00:29:43,328
about generational wealth and

877
00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:46,200
opportunities I look forward to

878
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,734
supporting this so congrats it

879
00:29:46,734 --> 00:29:48,836
to be honest thank you.

880
00:29:48,836 --> 00:29:49,169
>> any additional comment?

881
00:29:49,169 --> 00:29:51,169
Hearing none.

882
00:29:51,739 --> 00:29:54,376
All in favor raise hands any

883
00:29:54,376 --> 00:29:54,676
oppose that is unanimous.

884
00:29:54,676 --> 00:29:56,676
Thank you.

885
00:29:57,912 --> 00:30:00,114
So now we will proceed to the

886
00:30:00,114 --> 00:30:02,514
public hearings portion of

887
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,484
tonight's meeting item number

888
00:30:06,530 --> 00:30:07,521
17 and 18 were deferred and so

889
00:30:07,521 --> 00:30:11,121
we will begin with item number

890
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,760
19 petition number 20 26 001 by

891
00:30:14,863 --> 00:30:18,463
m p v properties and mission

892
00:30:18,767 --> 00:30:20,767
properties is approximately

893
00:30:22,203 --> 00:30:24,603
12.67 acres located south of

894
00:30:25,273 --> 00:30:27,442
mount holly road north of there

895
00:30:27,442 --> 00:30:30,579
to creek road and west of rye

896
00:30:30,579 --> 00:30:31,146
road in the east T.J. Closest

897
00:30:31,146 --> 00:30:33,146
to councilmember graham's

898
00:30:33,482 --> 00:30:36,117
district, the site is currently

899
00:30:36,117 --> 00:30:38,517
zoned manufac turing and

900
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,720
logistics one and propose

901
00:30:41,823 --> 00:30:44,793
zoning is neighborhood to be

902
00:30:44,793 --> 00:30:45,394
conditional staff does not

903
00:30:45,394 --> 00:30:47,794
recommend approval of this

904
00:30:48,397 --> 00:30:50,899
petition in its current form

905
00:30:50,899 --> 00:30:53,935
and we do have some speakers

906
00:30:53,935 --> 00:30:54,369
who are signed up to speak

907
00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:56,271
against this one.

908
00:30:56,271 --> 00:30:59,241
Can I just check if MR. Greg

909
00:30:59,241 --> 00:31:01,443
powell is present as is MR.

910
00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:01,676
Greg powell present?

911
00:31:01,676 --> 00:31:03,676
Okay.

912
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,181
In which case then we don't

913
00:31:05,181 --> 00:31:07,516
have anyone signed up since he

914
00:31:07,516 --> 00:31:09,516
is not here.

915
00:31:09,852 --> 00:31:12,821
So with with that after staffs

916
00:31:12,821 --> 00:31:13,522
presentation then we will have

917
00:31:13,522 --> 00:31:13,855
a three minute presentation.

918
00:31:13,855 --> 00:31:15,855
>> thank you.

919
00:31:15,924 --> 00:31:17,793
Just I'm sorry, councilor.

920
00:31:17,793 --> 00:31:18,393
I thought I got ten minutes and

921
00:31:18,393 --> 00:31:20,663
staff does not support staff

922
00:31:20,663 --> 00:31:21,197
opposes it.

923
00:31:21,197 --> 00:31:21,364
>> he gets ten.

924
00:31:21,364 --> 00:31:21,597
Yes.

925
00:31:21,597 --> 00:31:23,299
Okay.

926
00:31:23,299 --> 00:31:23,633
Yes, go ahead.

927
00:31:23,633 --> 00:31:25,568
>> all right.

928
00:31:25,568 --> 00:31:27,568
Good evening.

929
00:31:27,837 --> 00:31:29,837
Petition 2026 001 is a 12.67

930
00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:30,739
acre site located south

931
00:31:30,739 --> 00:31:33,750
mountain high road just west of

932
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,177
I-45 plan proposed the

933
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:37,577
development of up to 176

934
00:31:37,847 --> 00:31:38,448
multifamily stock apartment

935
00:31:38,448 --> 00:31:39,150
residential units on a site

936
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:41,415
containing a single family

937
00:31:42,510 --> 00:31:42,585
house site is currently zoned

938
00:31:42,585 --> 00:31:44,985
eml one manufacturing and

939
00:31:45,421 --> 00:31:47,821
logistics the proposed zoning

940
00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:50,659
is into b cd neighborhood to be

941
00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:51,227
conditional 2040 policy map

942
00:31:51,227 --> 00:31:53,227
recommends the manufacturing

943
00:31:53,396 --> 00:31:53,996
and logistics placed over the

944
00:31:53,996 --> 00:31:56,132
site and the plan is not in

945
00:31:56,132 --> 00:31:59,102
alignment with this place type.

946
00:31:59,102 --> 00:31:59,736
The rezoning proposal calls for

947
00:31:59,736 --> 00:32:01,704
up to 176 multifamily stacked

948
00:32:01,704 --> 00:32:02,305
apartment units, construction

949
00:32:02,305 --> 00:32:04,741
of an eastbound and westbound

950
00:32:04,741 --> 00:32:07,377
left turn lanes on mount holly

951
00:32:07,377 --> 00:32:08,770
road as well as an eastbound

952
00:32:08,770 --> 00:32:10,113
right turn lane to the site on

953
00:32:10,113 --> 00:32:10,813
mount holly road there will be

954
00:32:10,813 --> 00:32:12,916
a 25 foot class b landscape

955
00:32:12,916 --> 00:32:15,585
yard along the eastern and

956
00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:16,252
western property boundaries and

957
00:32:16,252 --> 00:32:18,555
along the railroad right of way

958
00:32:18,555 --> 00:32:20,824
on the southern portion of the

959
00:32:20,824 --> 00:32:21,424
site and the building facades

960
00:32:21,424 --> 00:32:23,824
buildings facing mount holly

961
00:32:24,961 --> 00:32:26,996
road all to use at least 40%

962
00:32:26,996 --> 00:32:27,697
brick facades.

963
00:32:27,697 --> 00:32:30,330
>> the plan is inconsistent

964
00:32:30,330 --> 00:32:30,667
with the goals and policies of

965
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:32,769
the west outer community area

966
00:32:32,769 --> 00:32:35,169
plan the abutting manufacturing

967
00:32:35,806 --> 00:32:36,506
logistics place type of the

968
00:32:36,506 --> 00:32:38,241
south, south, east and west are

969
00:32:38,241 --> 00:32:38,909
not preferred adjacencies to

970
00:32:38,909 --> 00:32:41,211
the neighborhood to place type

971
00:32:41,211 --> 00:32:44,130
and the plan would not

972
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:44,648
facilitate any community area

973
00:32:44,648 --> 00:32:46,583
plan priority goals staff does

974
00:32:46,583 --> 00:32:47,284
not recommend approval this

975
00:32:47,284 --> 00:32:49,119
petition in current form as the

976
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:49,687
proposed rezoning is

977
00:32:49,687 --> 00:32:50,200
inconsistent with the newly

978
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200
adopted west.

979
00:32:53,791 --> 00:32:54,424
Our community area plan and

980
00:32:54,424 --> 00:32:56,727
2040 policy map the site

981
00:32:56,727 --> 00:32:57,327
directly above significant

982
00:32:57,327 --> 00:32:59,327
manufacturing logistics uses

983
00:32:59,863 --> 00:33:00,463
and there's an active freight

984
00:33:00,463 --> 00:33:02,666
rail terminal running through

985
00:33:02,666 --> 00:33:03,200
the property site is also

986
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
lacking safe pedestrian

987
00:33:06,237 --> 00:33:06,838
infrastructure or that would

988
00:33:06,838 --> 00:33:09,240
allow it to access nearby

989
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,540
activities centers and nearby

990
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:11,540
bus stops.

991
00:33:12,309 --> 00:33:12,843
However, the site is within a

992
00:33:12,843 --> 00:33:15,112
housing gap and the less

993
00:33:15,112 --> 00:33:15,713
intense zoning district for

994
00:33:15,713 --> 00:33:18,382
townhome development MAY be a

995
00:33:18,382 --> 00:33:18,982
better balance between the

996
00:33:18,982 --> 00:33:21,218
needs and the surrounding

997
00:33:21,218 --> 00:33:21,585
community and the adjacent

998
00:33:21,585 --> 00:33:23,585
industrial uses.

999
00:33:23,921 --> 00:33:24,489
Happy to take any questions

1000
00:33:24,489 --> 00:33:26,489
following the petitioner's

1001
00:33:27,291 --> 00:33:27,692
presentation MR. Floyd, you

1002
00:33:27,692 --> 00:33:27,992
have two minutes.

1003
00:33:27,992 --> 00:33:29,794
Thank you.

1004
00:33:29,794 --> 00:33:30,940
Councilmember anderson, members

1005
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:30,795
of council.

1006
00:33:30,795 --> 00:33:32,229
I'm john floyd with more of an

1007
00:33:32,229 --> 00:33:32,863
allen here on behalf of the

1008
00:33:32,863 --> 00:33:34,863
petitioners mission properties

1009
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:35,733
and pb properties who are

1010
00:33:35,733 --> 00:33:37,835
working on this together, I'm

1011
00:33:37,835 --> 00:33:38,502
joined tonight by jason

1012
00:33:38,502 --> 00:33:39,136
mcarthur and bailey patrick who

1013
00:33:39,136 --> 00:33:41,106
are here in the audience in

1014
00:33:41,106 --> 00:33:41,806
case there are questions that I

1015
00:33:41,806 --> 00:33:44,806
can't answer we understand that

1016
00:33:44,842 --> 00:33:45,443
relaxed have support for this

1017
00:33:45,443 --> 00:33:47,345
petition but we're pleased to

1018
00:33:47,345 --> 00:33:47,979
say that we do have the support

1019
00:33:47,979 --> 00:33:49,781
of the mountain lake community

1020
00:33:49,781 --> 00:33:50,480
association who is active in

1021
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,480
this area.

1022
00:33:52,883 --> 00:33:55,353
We engage with them early on in

1023
00:33:55,353 --> 00:33:55,986
the process, kept them informed

1024
00:33:55,986 --> 00:33:58,156
throughout our discussion with

1025
00:33:58,156 --> 00:33:58,657
staff and I'll talk a little

1026
00:33:58,657 --> 00:33:59,900
bit about some of the

1027
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:01,900
commitments that the

1028
00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:01,760
petitioners have made in

1029
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,160
discussions with the mountain

1030
00:34:04,562 --> 00:34:06,562
hamlet community association,

1031
00:34:07,699 --> 00:34:09,567
the property we're talking

1032
00:34:09,567 --> 00:34:11,836
about is about 12.5 acres

1033
00:34:11,836 --> 00:34:14,640
located along mount holly road

1034
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,307
close to I-45 and close to the

1035
00:34:15,307 --> 00:34:15,507
entrance of pine island country

1036
00:34:15,507 --> 00:34:17,507
club.

1037
00:34:17,609 --> 00:34:18,276
A couple of key things that I

1038
00:34:18,276 --> 00:34:20,512
want to point out on this slide

1039
00:34:20,512 --> 00:34:22,981
that will come back to there's

1040
00:34:22,981 --> 00:34:23,582
a commercial node about three

1041
00:34:23,582 --> 00:34:25,884
quarters of a mile up mount

1042
00:34:25,884 --> 00:34:26,451
holly road where you have a

1043
00:34:26,451 --> 00:34:28,686
grocery store, gas station

1044
00:34:28,686 --> 00:34:29,253
restaurants, personal services

1045
00:34:29,253 --> 00:34:31,653
establishments to help our

1046
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:32,691
service residents in the area.

1047
00:34:32,691 --> 00:34:34,960
You have a self-storage

1048
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,627
facility immediately adjacent

1049
00:34:35,627 --> 00:34:37,930
to the site and then you have

1050
00:34:37,930 --> 00:34:38,564
this railroad easement that

1051
00:34:38,564 --> 00:34:40,566
runs along mount holly road and

1052
00:34:40,566 --> 00:34:41,990
the southern side of the

1053
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:43,499
property on the railroad

1054
00:34:43,602 --> 00:34:44,169
easement that was originally

1055
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:46,872
included as part of the

1056
00:34:46,872 --> 00:34:49,872
petition we received a letter

1057
00:34:50,109 --> 00:34:50,743
from csx objecting to inclusion

1058
00:34:50,743 --> 00:34:52,778
and we are therefore going to

1059
00:34:52,778 --> 00:34:53,412
amend the petition to remove

1060
00:34:53,412 --> 00:34:55,881
that right away easement or

1061
00:34:55,881 --> 00:34:56,515
remove that easement from the

1062
00:34:56,515 --> 00:34:58,384
petition that doesn't have any

1063
00:34:58,384 --> 00:34:58,850
practical impact on the site

1064
00:34:58,850 --> 00:34:59,485
proposed development.

1065
00:34:59,485 --> 00:35:01,530
But you might have received a

1066
00:35:01,530 --> 00:35:03,530
letter about that.

1067
00:35:04,389 --> 00:35:05,570
>> we're addressing it.

1068
00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:06,758
There is not a lot of

1069
00:35:06,758 --> 00:35:06,891
consistent zoning in this area

1070
00:35:06,891 --> 00:35:07,627
.

1071
00:35:07,627 --> 00:35:08,194
You do have some residential

1072
00:35:08,194 --> 00:35:10,429
developments close by, some

1073
00:35:10,429 --> 00:35:13,650
single family here and here

1074
00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:14,667
apartment complex across the

1075
00:35:14,667 --> 00:35:17,667
street and down closer to 485.

1076
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:18,270
You also have a new townhome

1077
00:35:18,270 --> 00:35:20,670
community that was recently

1078
00:35:20,806 --> 00:35:21,540
approved just on the other side

1079
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:23,775
of the self-storage facility.

1080
00:35:23,775 --> 00:35:24,376
And then again you've got

1081
00:35:24,376 --> 00:35:26,376
manufacturing logistics which

1082
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:29,549
is on the south side of that

1083
00:35:29,549 --> 00:35:30,283
rail easement.

1084
00:35:30,283 --> 00:35:30,616
Existing zoning on the side is

1085
00:35:30,616 --> 00:35:32,485
in mill one.

1086
00:35:32,485 --> 00:35:34,954
We're seeking to go to and to

1087
00:35:34,954 --> 00:35:35,454
be conditional to allow the

1088
00:35:35,454 --> 00:35:37,454
development of 176 unit

1089
00:35:38,557 --> 00:35:40,557
multifamily development.

1090
00:35:41,861 --> 00:35:42,529
This slide shows the policy map

1091
00:35:42,529 --> 00:35:44,965
that was in place at the time

1092
00:35:44,965 --> 00:35:46,833
of filing this petition earlier

1093
00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:47,467
this year and I just want to

1094
00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:48,134
show you how things have

1095
00:35:48,134 --> 00:35:49,569
changed over the last couple of

1096
00:35:49,569 --> 00:35:50,270
months.

1097
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:52,380
The site originally had a

1098
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,380
neighborhood one designation

1099
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,640
with some manufacturing

1100
00:35:57,443 --> 00:35:59,443
logistics adjacencies.

1101
00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:01,748
you also had neighborhood two

1102
00:36:01,748 --> 00:36:02,415
across the street which remains

1103
00:36:02,415 --> 00:36:03,490
there and then you have these

1104
00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:05,449
two community activity center

1105
00:36:05,952 --> 00:36:08,254
areas that's between the site

1106
00:36:08,254 --> 00:36:11,570
and I-45 which is over here.

1107
00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:13,926
Fast forward to the adoption of

1108
00:36:13,926 --> 00:36:14,727
the revised policy map and now

1109
00:36:14,727 --> 00:36:16,897
the place type of the site is

1110
00:36:16,897 --> 00:36:18,897
manufacturing logistics the

1111
00:36:19,266 --> 00:36:21,902
area on the other side of the

1112
00:36:21,902 --> 00:36:22,469
self-storage is now has a

1113
00:36:22,469 --> 00:36:24,869
neighborhood two place type.

1114
00:36:24,971 --> 00:36:27,971
The areas that were community

1115
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:28,575
activity centers have been

1116
00:36:28,575 --> 00:36:28,942
changed to a neighborhood

1117
00:36:28,942 --> 00:36:30,942
activity center.

1118
00:36:30,977 --> 00:36:31,544
An additional neighborhood to

1119
00:36:31,544 --> 00:36:33,544
the manufacturing logistics

1120
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,381
really hasn't changed except

1121
00:36:34,381 --> 00:36:36,917
for the fact that this site has

1122
00:36:36,917 --> 00:36:37,184
been changed to manufacturing

1123
00:36:37,184 --> 00:36:37,851
logistics.

1124
00:36:37,851 --> 00:36:40,254
My point here is that the idea

1125
00:36:40,254 --> 00:36:40,888
that you shouldn't arizona to

1126
00:36:40,888 --> 00:36:42,689
be simply because you've got

1127
00:36:42,689 --> 00:36:45,890
manufacturing logistics and a

1128
00:36:45,158 --> 00:36:45,759
rail line nearby really doesn't

1129
00:36:45,759 --> 00:36:47,994
carry a lot of water because

1130
00:36:47,994 --> 00:36:48,495
you've already got things that

1131
00:36:48,495 --> 00:36:49,620
are dealing with those

1132
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,131
conditions in the immediate

1133
00:36:51,131 --> 00:36:51,598
vicinity that have been

1134
00:36:51,598 --> 00:36:53,598
transitioned to that

1135
00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:56,670
neighborhood to place type.

1136
00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:59,106
This slide shows what the

1137
00:36:59,106 --> 00:36:59,607
policy map manual says are

1138
00:36:59,607 --> 00:37:02,700
things that should be

1139
00:37:02,276 --> 00:37:02,943
considered when you change to

1140
00:37:02,943 --> 00:37:04,645
the neighborhood to place type.

1141
00:37:04,645 --> 00:37:05,312
We're well over the minimum

1142
00:37:05,312 --> 00:37:07,614
acreage requirement although we

1143
00:37:07,614 --> 00:37:09,614
have some manufacturing

1144
00:37:10,485 --> 00:37:12,153
logistics adjacencies.

1145
00:37:12,153 --> 00:37:12,854
Again it's self-storage to one

1146
00:37:12,854 --> 00:37:15,189
side and then an area that is

1147
00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:15,690
separated by a large railroad

1148
00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:18,900
easement to the south.

1149
00:37:18,492 --> 00:37:19,160
>> one thing I'll add regarding

1150
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,295
that railroad easement is that

1151
00:37:21,295 --> 00:37:21,862
the right of way is not

1152
00:37:21,862 --> 00:37:23,464
considered when determining

1153
00:37:23,464 --> 00:37:24,398
your buffer.

1154
00:37:24,398 --> 00:37:26,935
>> so not only do you have the

1155
00:37:26,935 --> 00:37:27,602
railroad easement separating

1156
00:37:27,602 --> 00:37:30,238
the site from the manufacturing

1157
00:37:30,238 --> 00:37:30,905
logistics uses to the south,

1158
00:37:30,905 --> 00:37:32,707
you also then on top of that

1159
00:37:32,707 --> 00:37:33,308
have the standard buffer that

1160
00:37:33,308 --> 00:37:36,210
would be required between a

1161
00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,479
manufacturing logistics and an

1162
00:37:38,479 --> 00:37:39,180
end to be place type.

1163
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:41,349
And then if you look at the

1164
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:44,349
other criteria for transfer to

1165
00:37:44,619 --> 00:37:47,550
into b, I mean a lot of those

1166
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:47,656
factor in favor of this move

1167
00:37:47,656 --> 00:37:50,240
particularly we look at the

1168
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:50,492
proximity to services and the

1169
00:37:50,492 --> 00:37:52,492
proximity to public

1170
00:37:52,527 --> 00:37:53,228
transportation.

1171
00:37:53,228 --> 00:37:55,863
This slide shows the location

1172
00:37:55,863 --> 00:37:56,431
of bus stops along mount holly

1173
00:37:56,431 --> 00:37:58,800
road which are very close.

1174
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,302
You've got one here and here

1175
00:38:01,302 --> 00:38:01,502
both within less than a half

1176
00:38:01,502 --> 00:38:03,502
mile.

1177
00:38:03,939 --> 00:38:04,606
You know, MR. Oliver mentioned

1178
00:38:04,606 --> 00:38:06,842
in the report mentions a lack

1179
00:38:06,842 --> 00:38:07,242
of sidewalks allowed along

1180
00:38:07,242 --> 00:38:08,900
mount holly road.

1181
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:10,412
But again you have developments

1182
00:38:10,412 --> 00:38:13,315
going online here and here that

1183
00:38:13,315 --> 00:38:13,815
will require shared use pass be

1184
00:38:13,815 --> 00:38:15,815
constructed I believe.

1185
00:38:16,217 --> 00:38:18,786
And so what you're doing is

1186
00:38:18,786 --> 00:38:19,421
that connectivity to those bus

1187
00:38:19,421 --> 00:38:20,823
stops is being provided as

1188
00:38:20,823 --> 00:38:23,223
development on this corridor

1189
00:38:26,595 --> 00:38:27,229
increases.

1190
00:38:27,229 --> 00:38:29,629
This slide contains information

1191
00:38:29,665 --> 00:38:30,198
from the west outer community

1192
00:38:30,198 --> 00:38:32,801
area plan and shows the

1193
00:38:32,801 --> 00:38:33,168
existing profile of that area

1194
00:38:33,168 --> 00:38:34,402
and the goals.

1195
00:38:34,402 --> 00:38:35,360
Two things that I thought were

1196
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,436
interesting when reviewing the

1197
00:38:38,774 --> 00:38:39,442
profile of the area is that

1198
00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:42,442
number 133% of the west outer

1199
00:38:42,545 --> 00:38:43,120
development is characterized as

1200
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,120
neighborhood one not

1201
00:38:45,347 --> 00:38:45,748
multifamily which is a pretty

1202
00:38:45,748 --> 00:38:47,516
large percentage.

1203
00:38:47,516 --> 00:38:49,718
And the other thing is 26% is

1204
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:50,180
characterized as manufacturing

1205
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:52,180
logistics.

1206
00:38:52,287 --> 00:38:52,454
So there's already a lot there

1207
00:38:52,454 --> 00:38:53,222
.

1208
00:38:53,222 --> 00:38:55,491
And then you look at the goals

1209
00:38:55,491 --> 00:38:56,920
in that community area plan ten

1210
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,920
minute neighborhoods housing,

1211
00:38:58,461 --> 00:38:59,610
diversity, housing access,

1212
00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:01,610
transit oriented development

1213
00:39:01,697 --> 00:39:04,500
and then diverse and economic

1214
00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:06,500
opportunity.

1215
00:39:07,369 --> 00:39:10,339
Look at what the community area

1216
00:39:10,339 --> 00:39:10,939
plan says are the benefits of

1217
00:39:10,939 --> 00:39:12,775
redeveloping a property to a

1218
00:39:12,775 --> 00:39:14,775
neighborhood to development

1219
00:39:14,944 --> 00:39:15,578
along a major thoroughfare with

1220
00:39:15,578 --> 00:39:18,810
two bus stops and it looks to

1221
00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:20,283
us like it would have a

1222
00:39:20,283 --> 00:39:20,850
positive impact on four of the

1223
00:39:20,850 --> 00:39:21,117
five goals of the community

1224
00:39:21,117 --> 00:39:23,117
area plan.

1225
00:39:23,286 --> 00:39:23,953
Again this isn't my slide.

1226
00:39:23,953 --> 00:39:25,755
This is taken directly out of

1227
00:39:25,755 --> 00:39:26,389
the community area plan to show

1228
00:39:26,389 --> 00:39:28,624
what happens when you take the

1229
00:39:28,624 --> 00:39:29,192
vacant land and transition it

1230
00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:30,894
to a neighborhood two place

1231
00:39:30,894 --> 00:39:31,761
type.

1232
00:39:31,761 --> 00:39:34,297
And so we think that the

1233
00:39:34,297 --> 00:39:35,732
community area plan absolutely

1234
00:39:35,732 --> 00:39:38,132
supports a transition to

1235
00:39:39,268 --> 00:39:39,702
neighborhood to this is the

1236
00:39:39,702 --> 00:39:41,337
proposed site plan.

1237
00:39:41,337 --> 00:39:44,337
You see three buildings along

1238
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:47,311
mount holly road with all the

1239
00:39:47,311 --> 00:39:48,445
parking on the interior of the

1240
00:39:48,445 --> 00:39:50,414
site and no one is driving or

1241
00:39:50,414 --> 00:39:51,114
living across from parking lot

1242
00:39:51,114 --> 00:39:53,850
at the request of the mountain

1243
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:55,252
and lake community association

1244
00:39:55,252 --> 00:39:56,520
we included a condition that

1245
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,855
40% of the facades facing mount

1246
00:39:58,855 --> 00:40:01,658
holly road would have stone or

1247
00:40:01,658 --> 00:40:01,891
brick masonry along this

1248
00:40:01,891 --> 00:40:02,458
facade.

1249
00:40:02,458 --> 00:40:04,728
So you'll get a you know, a

1250
00:40:04,728 --> 00:40:07,640
higher end view along that

1251
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:07,731
stretch you've got the central

1252
00:40:07,731 --> 00:40:10,500
buildings in the middle that'll

1253
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:11,168
also include, you know, some of

1254
00:40:11,168 --> 00:40:13,270
the units as well as clubhouse

1255
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:13,904
an amenity area I'll talk about

1256
00:40:13,904 --> 00:40:16,390
in a minute and then you have

1257
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:16,606
pretty significant buffers

1258
00:40:16,606 --> 00:40:19,600
around the entire exterior.

1259
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:19,142
But again this is self-storage

1260
00:40:19,142 --> 00:40:19,709
.

1261
00:40:19,709 --> 00:40:21,946
You had approval for

1262
00:40:21,946 --> 00:40:22,546
multifamily over here next to

1263
00:40:22,546 --> 00:40:24,415
self-storage and then all of

1264
00:40:24,415 --> 00:40:25,820
this is the right of way for

1265
00:40:25,820 --> 00:40:27,384
the railroad that the developer

1266
00:40:27,384 --> 00:40:28,118
can't really do anything with.

1267
00:40:28,118 --> 00:40:28,418
>> you have three minutes left.

1268
00:40:28,418 --> 00:40:30,418
Thank you.

1269
00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:31,688
The petitioner has agreed to

1270
00:40:31,688 --> 00:40:33,423
make traffic improvements that

1271
00:40:33,423 --> 00:40:35,826
exceed what is required under

1272
00:40:35,826 --> 00:40:37,994
the video or requested by ncdot

1273
00:40:37,994 --> 00:40:38,595
or see that the development has

1274
00:40:38,595 --> 00:40:41,298
one widen access point right

1275
00:40:41,298 --> 00:40:43,768
across from stoney ridge which

1276
00:40:43,768 --> 00:40:44,435
was requested at the community

1277
00:40:44,435 --> 00:40:47,400
meeting and the developer will

1278
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:47,671
be constructing a right and

1279
00:40:47,671 --> 00:40:51,742
left turn lane into the site a

1280
00:40:51,742 --> 00:40:52,343
left turn lane for stoney ridge

1281
00:40:52,343 --> 00:40:52,976
and three lanes in each

1282
00:40:52,976 --> 00:40:54,411
direction right there in front

1283
00:40:54,411 --> 00:40:55,112
of the site.

1284
00:40:55,112 --> 00:40:58,112
So providing those left turn

1285
00:40:58,182 --> 00:40:58,783
lanes in addition to the three

1286
00:40:58,783 --> 00:41:00,518
lanes hopefully will prevent

1287
00:41:00,518 --> 00:41:01,252
traffic back up in that area.

1288
00:41:01,252 --> 00:41:03,821
Mount holly road, we understand

1289
00:41:03,821 --> 00:41:04,488
that's not going to alleviate

1290
00:41:04,488 --> 00:41:04,689
all the traffic that's on mount

1291
00:41:04,689 --> 00:41:06,689
holly.

1292
00:41:06,891 --> 00:41:07,158
That's an area that keeps

1293
00:41:07,158 --> 00:41:07,825
coming up.

1294
00:41:07,825 --> 00:41:09,393
That is something that needs to

1295
00:41:09,393 --> 00:41:10,127
be dealt with.

1296
00:41:10,127 --> 00:41:12,229
We don't disagree with that.

1297
00:41:12,229 --> 00:41:12,763
But what the developers try to

1298
00:41:12,763 --> 00:41:15,133
do is take a practical,

1299
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:15,734
reasonable approach to

1300
00:41:15,734 --> 00:41:17,702
improvements that they could

1301
00:41:17,702 --> 00:41:20,505
make that will, you know,

1302
00:41:20,505 --> 00:41:21,105
mitigate their own traffic as

1303
00:41:21,105 --> 00:41:23,700
well as try to provide some

1304
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:23,708
benefit to the median area.

1305
00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:25,777
The last point I'll make on

1306
00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:26,377
traffic is if you look at trip

1307
00:41:26,377 --> 00:41:28,777
generation data, the proposed

1308
00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:29,380
use generates much less traffic

1309
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:31,449
than some of the other uses

1310
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:31,750
that could be developed with

1311
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:32,384
the email.

1312
00:41:32,384 --> 00:41:34,553
One zoning staff report has

1313
00:41:34,553 --> 00:41:36,421
some information about trip

1314
00:41:36,421 --> 00:41:37,155
generation but it's based

1315
00:41:37,155 --> 00:41:39,240
solely on one lesser intensive

1316
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,240
use.

1317
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:43,940
Yes someone could put an 88,000

1318
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:43,661
square foot warehouse on that

1319
00:41:43,661 --> 00:41:45,763
site but there are a lot of

1320
00:41:45,763 --> 00:41:46,364
other uses that could go on

1321
00:41:46,364 --> 00:41:47,765
that site as it's currently

1322
00:41:47,765 --> 00:41:48,566
zoned that would increase

1323
00:41:48,566 --> 00:41:51,566
traffic and then looking at

1324
00:41:51,703 --> 00:41:54,239
amenities on the project you

1325
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,840
certainly have kind of the

1326
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,975
normal things like a pool

1327
00:41:56,975 --> 00:41:57,609
fitness center, dog park that

1328
00:41:57,609 --> 00:41:59,811
you would expect to see two

1329
00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:00,479
other interesting amenities

1330
00:42:00,479 --> 00:42:03,140
that I want to point out.

1331
00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:03,248
One is an upgraded business

1332
00:42:03,248 --> 00:42:03,848
center.

1333
00:42:03,848 --> 00:42:05,950
The idea there is that you

1334
00:42:05,950 --> 00:42:08,870
would be able to do more than

1335
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:08,754
just print or make copies.

1336
00:42:08,754 --> 00:42:11,560
It's someplace where somebody

1337
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:11,724
who lives there could leave

1338
00:42:11,724 --> 00:42:12,358
their house if they work from

1339
00:42:12,358 --> 00:42:15,193
home but still have a place to

1340
00:42:15,193 --> 00:42:16,995
go so they wouldn't have to go

1341
00:42:16,995 --> 00:42:17,496
to starbucks or local library,

1342
00:42:17,496 --> 00:42:19,331
keep them off the road.

1343
00:42:19,331 --> 00:42:19,898
And then also the second thing

1344
00:42:19,898 --> 00:42:22,467
is a small market something

1345
00:42:22,467 --> 00:42:25,370
along the lines of what you

1346
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:25,671
might see in a hotel or again

1347
00:42:25,671 --> 00:42:27,840
you need some detergent, you

1348
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,407
need a bag of chips, a frozen

1349
00:42:28,407 --> 00:42:30,676
pizza, something like that.

1350
00:42:30,676 --> 00:42:31,310
You can go pick that up on site

1351
00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:33,479
without having to get on the

1352
00:42:33,479 --> 00:42:34,179
roads and get somewhere else.

1353
00:42:34,179 --> 00:42:36,480
So both those things all the

1354
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,317
services to that the community

1355
00:42:38,317 --> 00:42:40,986
themselves are also helping to

1356
00:42:40,986 --> 00:42:41,688
reduce traffic.

1357
00:42:41,688 --> 00:42:44,490
And lastly we just have some

1358
00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:45,358
sample elevations here.

1359
00:42:45,358 --> 00:42:47,590
These are ideas of what it

1360
00:42:47,590 --> 00:42:47,760
might look like.

1361
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Mission properties is an

1362
00:42:50,196 --> 00:42:50,896
experience developer in the

1363
00:42:50,896 --> 00:42:53,332
region and so we have photos of

1364
00:42:53,332 --> 00:42:56,135
their other some of their other

1365
00:42:56,135 --> 00:42:56,368
projects here in the charlotte

1366
00:42:56,368 --> 00:42:58,368
region.

1367
00:42:58,537 --> 00:42:59,172
No architectural plans yet but

1368
00:42:59,172 --> 00:43:01,374
it's consistent with what you

1369
00:43:01,374 --> 00:43:01,507
should expect at this location

1370
00:43:01,507 --> 00:43:03,507
.

1371
00:43:04,577 --> 00:43:05,278
That's really all I have.

1372
00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:06,979
Again, we think this is a

1373
00:43:06,979 --> 00:43:07,580
quality project that makes

1374
00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:09,815
sense in this location we

1375
00:43:09,815 --> 00:43:10,549
worked hard to get community

1376
00:43:10,549 --> 00:43:11,183
support on this one and we hope

1377
00:43:11,183 --> 00:43:13,850
that each of you will support

1378
00:43:13,850 --> 00:43:13,853
as well.

1379
00:43:13,853 --> 00:43:14,453
>> with that I'm happy to take

1380
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:14,753
any questions that you have.

1381
00:43:14,753 --> 00:43:16,456
Thank you.

1382
00:43:16,456 --> 00:43:16,890
MR. Floyd.

1383
00:43:16,890 --> 00:43:18,890
Any questions?

1384
00:43:19,793 --> 00:43:20,455
MR. Graham thank you for the

1385
00:43:20,455 --> 00:43:22,455
presentation.

1386
00:43:22,962 --> 00:43:25,265
A question for staff so my eyes

1387
00:43:25,265 --> 00:43:28,167
and ears the mountain lake

1388
00:43:28,167 --> 00:43:28,801
homeowners association are in

1389
00:43:28,801 --> 00:43:31,404
agreement with the project so

1390
00:43:31,404 --> 00:43:33,706
with your and readiness based

1391
00:43:33,706 --> 00:43:36,309
on I'm not having staff

1392
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:36,743
approval it's primarily based

1393
00:43:36,743 --> 00:43:39,112
on the place type

1394
00:43:39,112 --> 00:43:40,113
recommendation.

1395
00:43:40,113 --> 00:43:41,981
So the cap as we all know was

1396
00:43:41,981 --> 00:43:44,484
adopted in APRIL just a couple

1397
00:43:44,484 --> 00:43:45,118
months ago which updated policy

1398
00:43:45,118 --> 00:43:47,518
map and that envisioned

1399
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:47,887
manufacturing and logistics for

1400
00:43:47,887 --> 00:43:49,887
the site.

1401
00:43:50,356 --> 00:43:50,890
so I feel like it's difficult

1402
00:43:50,890 --> 00:43:51,425
after all that community

1403
00:43:51,425 --> 00:43:53,425
engagement and discussion

1404
00:43:53,727 --> 00:43:54,328
around the community area plans

1405
00:43:54,328 --> 00:43:56,363
to kind of go against that

1406
00:43:56,363 --> 00:43:58,763
recommendation at this point

1407
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,301
and you know there is quite a

1408
00:44:01,301 --> 00:44:01,901
bit over 1,000,000ft of

1409
00:44:01,901 --> 00:44:04,271
development just across that

1410
00:44:04,271 --> 00:44:04,904
railroad right of way of

1411
00:44:04,904 --> 00:44:07,304
manufacturing and logistics in

1412
00:44:09,510 --> 00:44:10,111
the area and that

1413
00:44:10,111 --> 00:44:12,511
recommendation is not subject

1414
00:44:12,613 --> 00:44:15,916
to change based on some of the

1415
00:44:15,916 --> 00:44:18,485
leeway still made for their

1416
00:44:18,485 --> 00:44:19,186
project in terms of trying to

1417
00:44:19,186 --> 00:44:21,550
traffic county from the other

1418
00:44:21,550 --> 00:44:23,550
things.

1419
00:44:24,191 --> 00:44:24,891
So we do recognize that it is

1420
00:44:24,891 --> 00:44:26,894
in a housing gap and you know

1421
00:44:26,894 --> 00:44:27,428
we feel that maybe something a

1422
00:44:27,428 --> 00:44:29,828
little less intense than

1423
00:44:30,364 --> 00:44:32,764
stacked multifamily, maybe a

1424
00:44:32,767 --> 00:44:33,334
townhome project or a single

1425
00:44:33,334 --> 00:44:35,803
family project MAY be more

1426
00:44:35,803 --> 00:44:37,871
appropriate for the site than

1427
00:44:37,871 --> 00:44:38,172
for a full apartment

1428
00:44:38,172 --> 00:44:40,172
development.

1429
00:44:40,507 --> 00:44:41,208
Okay.

1430
00:44:41,208 --> 00:44:43,544
I would love to come out and

1431
00:44:43,544 --> 00:44:45,544
walk the site.

1432
00:44:46,781 --> 00:44:49,751
I'm very I do that often

1433
00:44:49,751 --> 00:44:52,219
especially in the the mountain

1434
00:44:52,219 --> 00:44:55,220
bike area because I am too

1435
00:44:55,220 --> 00:44:55,623
concerned about the traffic

1436
00:44:55,623 --> 00:44:57,623
congestion and infrastructure

1437
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,494
over there and so sometimes

1438
00:45:00,494 --> 00:45:01,128
seeing it is better than in

1439
00:45:01,128 --> 00:45:01,295
person is better than on the

1440
00:45:01,295 --> 00:45:03,295
map.

1441
00:45:03,798 --> 00:45:04,499
So if you can contact my office

1442
00:45:04,499 --> 00:45:06,701
would love to come out and just

1443
00:45:06,701 --> 00:45:07,469
want to say I would love to set

1444
00:45:07,469 --> 00:45:09,504
that up with you too for you to

1445
00:45:09,504 --> 00:45:11,839
join me if you can and so we

1446
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:12,206
can make sure that we're all on

1447
00:45:12,206 --> 00:45:14,800
the same page.

1448
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,800
Absolutely.

1449
00:45:16,911 --> 00:45:20,480
Okay, MR. Mayor, thank you so

1450
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:20,582
staff thank you so much very

1451
00:45:20,582 --> 00:45:22,818
for your due diligence.

1452
00:45:22,818 --> 00:45:26,540
I'm reading and based on your

1453
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:28,757
notes here it states that there

1454
00:45:28,757 --> 00:45:31,426
is an active freight rail right

1455
00:45:31,426 --> 00:45:34,329
of way which makes up a quarter

1456
00:45:34,329 --> 00:45:34,596
of this site along its southern

1457
00:45:34,596 --> 00:45:35,263
boundary.

1458
00:45:35,263 --> 00:45:39,463
Can you pull that up here on

1459
00:45:40,269 --> 00:45:43,405
the map so the freight rail

1460
00:45:43,405 --> 00:45:45,574
traffic I'm concerned it MAY be

1461
00:45:45,574 --> 00:45:46,141
incompatible easier and

1462
00:45:46,141 --> 00:45:48,541
impactful to this future

1463
00:45:48,943 --> 00:45:50,979
residents who will be living on

1464
00:45:50,979 --> 00:45:52,979
the site.

1465
00:45:53,949 --> 00:45:54,517
I think there needs to be some

1466
00:45:54,517 --> 00:45:56,585
measures that we need to

1467
00:45:56,585 --> 00:45:56,852
discuss around noise and air

1468
00:45:56,852 --> 00:45:58,852
pollution.

1469
00:45:59,555 --> 00:46:00,289
>> okay.

1470
00:46:00,289 --> 00:46:02,691
So if you can just tell me

1471
00:46:02,691 --> 00:46:04,793
where where is that freight?

1472
00:46:04,793 --> 00:46:04,993
>> it's it's a double tracked

1473
00:46:04,993 --> 00:46:05,727
line.

1474
00:46:05,727 --> 00:46:08,597
So there's a northern track

1475
00:46:08,597 --> 00:46:09,197
right here where the pointer is

1476
00:46:09,197 --> 00:46:11,132
and then there's a southern

1477
00:46:11,132 --> 00:46:11,700
track right around the southern

1478
00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:14,360
boundary where you see this

1479
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,637
yellow running concurrently

1480
00:46:14,637 --> 00:46:16,539
with that yellow line that

1481
00:46:16,539 --> 00:46:18,939
marks the site boundary.

1482
00:46:19,108 --> 00:46:19,575
Yes, I do agree with staff's

1483
00:46:19,575 --> 00:46:21,575
recommendations here.

1484
00:46:22,378 --> 00:46:25,180
I think we are looking at

1485
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:28,180
potential air pollution as well

1486
00:46:28,617 --> 00:46:29,252
as noise pollution for our

1487
00:46:29,252 --> 00:46:32,252
future residents that might be

1488
00:46:34,190 --> 00:46:34,724
living here also, have you

1489
00:46:34,724 --> 00:46:37,124
considered a less intense

1490
00:46:39,428 --> 00:46:41,428
zoning district?

1491
00:46:42,364 --> 00:46:42,865
I think we looked at certainly

1492
00:46:42,865 --> 00:46:43,566
a lot of options.

1493
00:46:43,566 --> 00:46:45,768
I think the issue that you have

1494
00:46:45,768 --> 00:46:46,403
here with the railroad track is

1495
00:46:46,403 --> 00:46:48,171
that takes a lot of things out

1496
00:46:48,171 --> 00:46:48,872
of play, right?

1497
00:46:48,872 --> 00:46:51,272
Like single family residential

1498
00:46:51,407 --> 00:46:51,941
right next to a railroad track

1499
00:46:51,941 --> 00:46:52,575
is probably not something

1500
00:46:52,575 --> 00:46:54,100
that's going to gain a lot of

1501
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:54,610
traction.

1502
00:46:54,610 --> 00:46:54,877
An apartment complex is

1503
00:46:54,877 --> 00:46:55,912
different.

1504
00:46:55,912 --> 00:46:58,648
I mean my first department when

1505
00:46:58,648 --> 00:46:59,315
I moved to charlotte was

1506
00:46:59,315 --> 00:46:59,916
carrying south end or excuse me

1507
00:46:59,916 --> 00:47:01,817
camden cotton mills which is

1508
00:47:01,817 --> 00:47:02,451
right along the railroad track.

1509
00:47:02,451 --> 00:47:04,554
That's just what you do when

1510
00:47:04,554 --> 00:47:05,188
you're younger.

1511
00:47:05,188 --> 00:47:05,388
You know you live with the

1512
00:47:05,388 --> 00:47:07,388
noise.

1513
00:47:07,624 --> 00:47:08,258
It's not that bad.

1514
00:47:08,258 --> 00:47:08,892
But to think if somebody is

1515
00:47:08,892 --> 00:47:10,593
going to buy a home in that

1516
00:47:10,593 --> 00:47:11,427
location probably not.

1517
00:47:11,427 --> 00:47:13,797
But yeah, we considered it and

1518
00:47:13,797 --> 00:47:14,297
felt that multifamily was the

1519
00:47:14,297 --> 00:47:16,799
best thing for the site.

1520
00:47:16,799 --> 00:47:17,467
>> okay well in its current

1521
00:47:17,467 --> 00:47:18,868
form I don't think it's a good

1522
00:47:18,868 --> 00:47:20,868
idea.

1523
00:47:22,139 --> 00:47:22,372
>> and other thing just a

1524
00:47:22,372 --> 00:47:24,372
second.

1525
00:47:27,377 --> 00:47:30,346
So I do see this site is right

1526
00:47:30,346 --> 00:47:31,214
next to manufacturing logistics

1527
00:47:31,214 --> 00:47:34,484
as well as to the south to the

1528
00:47:34,484 --> 00:47:38,840
south east and we are talking

1529
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:39,590
about one point 2,000,000ft

1530
00:47:39,590 --> 00:47:41,590
manufacture and logistic

1531
00:47:41,925 --> 00:47:44,325
facility, am I correct?

1532
00:47:44,561 --> 00:47:45,950
>> so yes, a long run road to

1533
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:47,495
the south and southeast.

1534
00:47:48,165 --> 00:47:49,265
The site there's currently

1535
00:47:49,265 --> 00:47:49,833
approximately one point

1536
00:47:49,833 --> 00:47:51,833
2,000,000ft of industrial

1537
00:47:53,690 --> 00:47:53,336
development under construction.

1538
00:47:53,336 --> 00:47:55,336
>> yeah.

1539
00:47:55,972 --> 00:47:58,776
So you know, staff rarely

1540
00:47:58,776 --> 00:47:59,110
provides opposition or doesn't

1541
00:47:59,110 --> 00:47:59,910
support it.

1542
00:47:59,910 --> 00:48:02,145
So when they do I think we need

1543
00:48:02,145 --> 00:48:05,149
to take it seriously because we

1544
00:48:05,149 --> 00:48:05,816
MAY not get calls now but once

1545
00:48:05,816 --> 00:48:08,180
the residents do move in there

1546
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:11,321
might be calls coming about air

1547
00:48:11,321 --> 00:48:11,588
pollution, noise pollution and

1548
00:48:11,588 --> 00:48:13,588
many more.

1549
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,610
So I, I just think we need to

1550
00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:17,628
take this thing through this

1551
00:48:17,628 --> 00:48:20,280
and consider the staff's

1552
00:48:20,197 --> 00:48:20,798
recommendations because I hear

1553
00:48:20,798 --> 00:48:23,300
from the petition are pretty

1554
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:23,867
clear they are not willing to

1555
00:48:23,867 --> 00:48:25,669
lower the intensity of the

1556
00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:25,836
development and that concerns

1557
00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:26,437
me.

1558
00:48:26,437 --> 00:48:28,639
MR. Floyd that's all I have.

1559
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:29,106
Thank you.

1560
00:48:29,106 --> 00:48:30,974
>> thank you, MS..

1561
00:48:30,974 --> 00:48:31,342
Mayor.

1562
00:48:31,342 --> 00:48:33,342
Thank you.

1563
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:34,579
Would job at all be open to

1564
00:48:34,579 --> 00:48:37,315
spending more money on the

1565
00:48:37,315 --> 00:48:39,750
quality of the windows to kind

1566
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:40,418
of impact sound for, you know,

1567
00:48:40,418 --> 00:48:42,653
future residents that are going

1568
00:48:42,653 --> 00:48:43,321
to be there just so I mean

1569
00:48:43,321 --> 00:48:45,289
obviously I would need to talk

1570
00:48:45,289 --> 00:48:45,923
with the development team but I

1571
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:46,390
don't want to say that we're

1572
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:47,958
opposed to anything.

1573
00:48:47,958 --> 00:48:48,425
I mean I think the development

1574
00:48:48,425 --> 00:48:50,362
team here has shown a

1575
00:48:50,362 --> 00:48:50,929
willingness to take feedback

1576
00:48:50,929 --> 00:48:53,398
from the area residents to

1577
00:48:53,398 --> 00:48:53,998
incorporate a lot of the

1578
00:48:53,998 --> 00:48:54,432
feedback that we got in the

1579
00:48:54,432 --> 00:48:56,432
community meeting.

1580
00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:57,680
That's how we got support from

1581
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,504
the community is hearing their

1582
00:48:59,504 --> 00:49:00,138
feedback and going back in

1583
00:49:00,138 --> 00:49:00,371
there so can't say yes, can't

1584
00:49:00,371 --> 00:49:02,240
say no.

1585
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:02,874
I'm happy to to have the

1586
00:49:02,874 --> 00:49:04,242
development team to look into

1587
00:49:04,242 --> 00:49:04,575
that and see what the options

1588
00:49:04,575 --> 00:49:04,909
are.

1589
00:49:04,909 --> 00:49:06,909
>> okay.

1590
00:49:07,545 --> 00:49:08,213
Okay.

1591
00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:10,548
And just one last while you're

1592
00:49:10,548 --> 00:49:13,548
looking at the this additional

1593
00:49:13,818 --> 00:49:15,820
tools also if you can ask your

1594
00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:16,488
development team to decrease

1595
00:49:16,488 --> 00:49:19,230
the number of units and lower

1596
00:49:19,230 --> 00:49:19,391
the intensity of development.

1597
00:49:19,391 --> 00:49:19,791
Thank you.

1598
00:49:19,791 --> 00:49:20,910
That's all I have.

1599
00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,910
Thank you.

1600
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,861
I'm going to pass it over to

1601
00:49:22,861 --> 00:49:24,963
mr. Graham to close out comment

1602
00:49:24,963 --> 00:49:25,597
yeah and that's why it's so

1603
00:49:25,597 --> 00:49:27,699
important for me to walk it

1604
00:49:27,699 --> 00:49:30,836
right and kind of see the

1605
00:49:30,836 --> 00:49:31,536
proximity to I see the line

1606
00:49:31,536 --> 00:49:33,872
right before I get it and also

1607
00:49:33,872 --> 00:49:34,439
to talk to the neighborhood

1608
00:49:34,439 --> 00:49:36,508
association they don't grant

1609
00:49:36,508 --> 00:49:39,644
their approval lightly and so I

1610
00:49:39,644 --> 00:49:42,440
was pleasantly surprised that

1611
00:49:42,810 --> 00:49:42,815
they were already on board.

1612
00:49:42,815 --> 00:49:43,449
But I still have a couple of

1613
00:49:43,449 --> 00:49:44,950
questions I want to ask based

1614
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:47,820
on staff's comments, but I'm

1615
00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:48,153
very open and looking forward

1616
00:49:48,153 --> 00:49:50,153
to the visit.

1617
00:49:50,823 --> 00:49:51,189
>> happy to do it.

1618
00:49:51,189 --> 00:49:51,390
>> thank you.

1619
00:49:51,390 --> 00:49:53,358
Okay.

1620
00:49:53,358 --> 00:49:53,825
MISS Mayo has a final comment.

1621
00:49:53,825 --> 00:49:56,225
>> thank you so much.

1622
00:49:56,595 --> 00:49:59,966
Would you at all be open to

1623
00:49:59,966 --> 00:50:02,501
adding like in some of the

1624
00:50:02,501 --> 00:50:04,501
conditions like undisturbed

1625
00:50:05,271 --> 00:50:08,271
tree canopy like between where

1626
00:50:08,407 --> 00:50:10,809
you're going to be putting the

1627
00:50:10,809 --> 00:50:11,760
apartments in the actual

1628
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,760
railroad?

1629
00:50:13,745 --> 00:50:16,516
>> I'm just thinking, you know,

1630
00:50:16,516 --> 00:50:17,317
oftentimes if you leave those

1631
00:50:17,317 --> 00:50:19,485
trees there that will help with

1632
00:50:19,485 --> 00:50:21,821
sound and if if it's being

1633
00:50:21,821 --> 00:50:22,455
undisturbed that will help with

1634
00:50:22,455 --> 00:50:23,890
some of the noise and the

1635
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:25,191
pollution and that's something

1636
00:50:25,191 --> 00:50:25,558
we've really learned from

1637
00:50:25,558 --> 00:50:27,558
silvery acres.

1638
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,560
>> just thinking through how

1639
00:50:30,829 --> 00:50:31,697
can we put some things in place

1640
00:50:31,697 --> 00:50:33,767
in the front end so we're not

1641
00:50:33,767 --> 00:50:34,134
having to deal with issues in

1642
00:50:34,134 --> 00:50:36,134
the back end?

1643
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:37,570
Yes, ma'am.

1644
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:37,904
>> you asked him that is

1645
00:50:37,904 --> 00:50:38,710
understaffed.

1646
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:40,710
Yes.

1647
00:50:40,173 --> 00:50:40,873
So we've got here's kind of the

1648
00:50:40,873 --> 00:50:42,508
part of the tree safe area this

1649
00:50:42,508 --> 00:50:45,211
whole area here is also that is

1650
00:50:45,211 --> 00:50:45,778
the right of way area.

1651
00:50:45,778 --> 00:50:48,714
that doesn't mean that the

1652
00:50:48,714 --> 00:50:48,981
tracks are right up next to

1653
00:50:48,981 --> 00:50:49,181
this line.

1654
00:50:49,181 --> 00:50:50,916
Right.

1655
00:50:50,916 --> 00:50:53,386
The tracks are shown down here

1656
00:50:53,386 --> 00:50:54,187
and all this is currently

1657
00:50:54,187 --> 00:50:57,900
trees, you know, so there's a

1658
00:50:57,900 --> 00:50:59,959
pretty significant gap not only

1659
00:50:59,959 --> 00:51:00,660
between the railroad and but

1660
00:51:00,660 --> 00:51:01,227
you've got all those trees then

1661
00:51:01,227 --> 00:51:02,996
you've got the planting and

1662
00:51:02,996 --> 00:51:03,530
then you've got the parking lot

1663
00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:03,796
and then you've got the

1664
00:51:03,796 --> 00:51:05,632
building.

1665
00:51:05,632 --> 00:51:05,998
So it's pretty significant

1666
00:51:05,998 --> 00:51:07,998
distance there.

1667
00:51:08,969 --> 00:51:09,369
See we can't do anything in

1668
00:51:09,369 --> 00:51:11,369
that area, right?

1669
00:51:11,371 --> 00:51:11,905
It's if they own the property

1670
00:51:11,905 --> 00:51:13,874
but the railroad has the

1671
00:51:13,874 --> 00:51:14,474
easement and has all control

1672
00:51:14,474 --> 00:51:15,420
over what can go on there.

1673
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:17,344
So that's certainly not a

1674
00:51:17,344 --> 00:51:17,944
problem we don't have any plans

1675
00:51:17,944 --> 00:51:18,144
on taking any of these trees

1676
00:51:18,144 --> 00:51:20,113
down.

1677
00:51:20,113 --> 00:51:20,513
It provides privacy, provides

1678
00:51:20,513 --> 00:51:21,114
noise reduction.

1679
00:51:21,114 --> 00:51:23,383
It provides a whole bunch of

1680
00:51:23,383 --> 00:51:23,549
benefits that we're in support

1681
00:51:23,549 --> 00:51:23,883
of.

1682
00:51:23,883 --> 00:51:24,183
>> all right.

1683
00:51:24,183 --> 00:51:26,183
Thank you.

1684
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:26,921
Thank you.

1685
00:51:26,921 --> 00:51:27,289
>> is there a motion to close

1686
00:51:27,289 --> 00:51:28,555
public hearings?

1687
00:51:28,555 --> 00:51:29,230
The second.

1688
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:30,991
>> all right.

1689
00:51:30,991 --> 00:51:34,940
All in favor raise hands any

1690
00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:36,930
oppose that is unanimous and so

1691
00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:40,367
we will now move on to item

1692
00:51:40,367 --> 00:51:42,367
number 20 petition number 2026

1693
00:51:43,504 --> 00:51:43,804
009 by david simone signature

1694
00:51:43,804 --> 00:51:45,804
homes llc.

1695
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:49,407
It's approximately three acres

1696
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,613
located south of all providence

1697
00:51:52,613 --> 00:51:55,749
road east of jones ridge drive

1698
00:51:55,749 --> 00:51:58,318
and west of mary butler way and

1699
00:51:58,318 --> 00:51:58,485
council member drake's district

1700
00:51:58,485 --> 00:51:59,253
.

1701
00:51:59,253 --> 00:52:01,756
the site is currently zone

1702
00:52:01,756 --> 00:52:04,756
neighborhood one b and the

1703
00:52:04,792 --> 00:52:07,192
proposed zoning is neighborhood

1704
00:52:07,295 --> 00:52:07,962
one d conditional staff does

1705
00:52:07,962 --> 00:52:10,598
not recommend approval of this

1706
00:52:10,598 --> 00:52:13,634
petition in its current form so

1707
00:52:13,634 --> 00:52:14,335
the petitioner will have ten

1708
00:52:14,335 --> 00:52:16,270
minutes to speak to to this

1709
00:52:16,270 --> 00:52:18,670
item after staff's presentation

1710
00:52:22,143 --> 00:52:22,844
and yes MR. Smith is this MR.

1711
00:52:22,844 --> 00:52:24,979
Smith and MR. Crater all right

1712
00:52:24,979 --> 00:52:25,513
after staff's presentation

1713
00:52:25,513 --> 00:52:27,548
you'll have ten minutes.

1714
00:52:27,548 --> 00:52:27,882
Thank you.

1715
00:52:27,882 --> 00:52:29,283
Thank you.

1716
00:52:29,283 --> 00:52:31,683
The sites approximately three

1717
00:52:32,386 --> 00:52:33,870
acres along the south side of

1718
00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:35,456
old providence road east of

1719
00:52:35,456 --> 00:52:37,626
jones road drive and west of

1720
00:52:37,626 --> 00:52:37,826
mary butler ray right.

1721
00:52:37,826 --> 00:52:39,826
Sorry.

1722
00:52:40,628 --> 00:52:41,196
In an area where we have

1723
00:52:41,196 --> 00:52:43,196
predominantly single family

1724
00:52:43,565 --> 00:52:45,900
uses some institutional uses

1725
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:46,534
and multifamily uses though

1726
00:52:46,534 --> 00:52:49,370
further from the site more

1727
00:52:49,370 --> 00:52:51,437
eastern along providence road

1728
00:52:52,730 --> 00:52:53,174
current zoning is neighborhood

1729
00:52:53,174 --> 00:52:53,809
one b they are proposing to go

1730
00:52:53,809 --> 00:52:56,209
to neighborhood one d

1731
00:52:56,378 --> 00:52:58,778
conditional that is in

1732
00:52:59,140 --> 00:52:59,514
alignment with the policy maps

1733
00:52:59,514 --> 00:53:01,216
recommendation for the

1734
00:53:01,216 --> 00:53:01,783
neighborhood one place type for

1735
00:53:01,783 --> 00:53:03,485
this site as well as the

1736
00:53:03,485 --> 00:53:05,485
surrounding area.

1737
00:53:06,221 --> 00:53:06,921
The proposal includes a couple

1738
00:53:06,921 --> 00:53:09,624
of conditional nodes so they

1739
00:53:09,624 --> 00:53:10,224
stipulate that they would have

1740
00:53:10,224 --> 00:53:12,624
ten single family detached

1741
00:53:12,761 --> 00:53:14,761
residential lots.

1742
00:53:15,664 --> 00:53:16,365
The minimum lot with would be

1743
00:53:16,365 --> 00:53:19,965
50ft and they would have a

1744
00:53:20,202 --> 00:53:22,871
minimum lot area of 6000ft and

1745
00:53:22,871 --> 00:53:25,840
just for a point of reference

1746
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,508
from where they're going to

1747
00:53:26,508 --> 00:53:27,420
where they're starting with the

1748
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:28,644
and b district and where

1749
00:53:28,644 --> 00:53:31,380
they're going to fit in one d

1750
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:34,116
district they are proposing a

1751
00:53:34,116 --> 00:53:35,984
greater width and area than the

1752
00:53:35,984 --> 00:53:36,551
minimum standards of n1d and

1753
00:53:36,551 --> 00:53:40,151
the n1b with where they're

1754
00:53:40,289 --> 00:53:42,624
starting at has minimum area of

1755
00:53:42,624 --> 00:53:45,327
8000 in lot with of 60ft.

1756
00:53:45,327 --> 00:53:47,263
This area is within the south

1757
00:53:47,263 --> 00:53:48,300
middle community area plan

1758
00:53:48,300 --> 00:53:50,533
which does call for the

1759
00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:51,200
neighborhood.

1760
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,803
One place type as I noted does

1761
00:53:53,803 --> 00:53:54,437
not directly facilitate

1762
00:53:54,437 --> 00:53:56,837
priority goals or comprehensive

1763
00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:59,308
plan goals and we did assess it

1764
00:53:59,308 --> 00:53:59,575
using the place type five

1765
00:53:59,575 --> 00:54:01,575
criteria.

1766
00:54:02,110 --> 00:54:02,678
That's an assessment tool that

1767
00:54:02,678 --> 00:54:05,548
we have under the creating

1768
00:54:05,548 --> 00:54:07,548
complete communities section

1769
00:54:08,251 --> 00:54:08,885
under every community area plan

1770
00:54:08,885 --> 00:54:11,285
which helps us evaluate

1771
00:54:11,554 --> 00:54:13,422
rezoning petitions requesting a

1772
00:54:13,422 --> 00:54:15,822
more intense neighborhood one

1773
00:54:16,392 --> 00:54:18,727
zoning district in order to see

1774
00:54:18,727 --> 00:54:21,398
if what is being requested

1775
00:54:21,398 --> 00:54:22,650
meets essentially or ensures

1776
00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:24,650
appropriateness review stablish

1777
00:54:25,301 --> 00:54:27,804
community character in the area

1778
00:54:27,804 --> 00:54:27,937
with what form and development

1779
00:54:27,937 --> 00:54:28,805
.

1780
00:54:28,805 --> 00:54:31,541
So when we look at this area

1781
00:54:31,541 --> 00:54:34,444
there is a real established lot

1782
00:54:34,444 --> 00:54:37,647
pattern and with what you see

1783
00:54:37,647 --> 00:54:40,484
with the lots to the east and

1784
00:54:40,484 --> 00:54:42,719
to the west here I'll exclude

1785
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,253
these because they're bit of

1786
00:54:43,253 --> 00:54:45,653
outliers these large lots

1787
00:54:45,922 --> 00:54:48,491
directly to the west but the

1788
00:54:48,491 --> 00:54:49,192
ones along jones ridge drive in

1789
00:54:49,192 --> 00:54:51,694
mary butler way these are

1790
00:54:51,694 --> 00:54:53,694
predominantly developed to

1791
00:54:54,764 --> 00:54:55,431
minimum standards of what you

1792
00:54:55,431 --> 00:54:58,101
would see in the in one b

1793
00:54:58,101 --> 00:55:00,101
classification and sometimes

1794
00:55:00,604 --> 00:55:03,407
with greater law areas closer

1795
00:55:03,407 --> 00:55:06,900
to and one a classification or

1796
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,278
somewhere in between a and b so

1797
00:55:08,278 --> 00:55:11,810
what they're proposing would be

1798
00:55:11,810 --> 00:55:13,818
a bit smaller than that or a

1799
00:55:13,818 --> 00:55:14,418
bit out of line with what we

1800
00:55:14,418 --> 00:55:16,453
think is the established lot

1801
00:55:16,453 --> 00:55:17,287
pattern in the area.

1802
00:55:17,287 --> 00:55:19,990
It is a long and arterial road

1803
00:55:19,990 --> 00:55:21,859
which is a point in its favor

1804
00:55:21,859 --> 00:55:24,828
in terms of the five criteria

1805
00:55:24,828 --> 00:55:25,295
but it is also located

1806
00:55:25,295 --> 00:55:27,295
mid-block which isn't

1807
00:55:28,131 --> 00:55:30,131
necessarily preferred when

1808
00:55:30,233 --> 00:55:30,768
we're stepping up the intensity

1809
00:55:30,768 --> 00:55:32,436
in our neighborhood.

1810
00:55:32,436 --> 00:55:35,139
One zoning districts on this

1811
00:55:35,139 --> 00:55:37,942
type of site so on I would say

1812
00:55:37,942 --> 00:55:40,911
they're not that far off from

1813
00:55:40,911 --> 00:55:41,445
what we'd like to see in the

1814
00:55:41,445 --> 00:55:42,780
area but stop does that

1815
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:43,414
recommend approval of this

1816
00:55:43,414 --> 00:55:46,414
petition in its current form?

1817
00:55:46,550 --> 00:55:47,184
We think that we can work with

1818
00:55:47,184 --> 00:55:47,784
the petitioner to try and get

1819
00:55:47,784 --> 00:55:49,587
this plan more in alignment

1820
00:55:49,587 --> 00:55:50,288
with that.

1821
00:55:50,288 --> 00:55:52,389
Please type five criteria to

1822
00:55:52,389 --> 00:55:52,990
ensure that the proposals in

1823
00:55:52,990 --> 00:55:55,592
creating a law pattern that's

1824
00:55:55,592 --> 00:55:56,260
out of context with the

1825
00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:57,962
established development that we

1826
00:55:57,962 --> 00:55:58,429
see along this corridor which

1827
00:55:58,429 --> 00:56:00,429
demonstrates a pretty

1828
00:56:00,798 --> 00:56:02,798
consistent characteristics in

1829
00:56:03,567 --> 00:56:03,801
terms of what area width and

1830
00:56:03,801 --> 00:56:05,801
setback.

1831
00:56:06,771 --> 00:56:09,507
So with that I'll leave my

1832
00:56:09,507 --> 00:56:10,740
comments me and address any

1833
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:12,100
questions after petitioner

1834
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:12,343
presentation.

1835
00:56:12,343 --> 00:56:13,644
>> okay.

1836
00:56:13,644 --> 00:56:14,278
MR. Smith and MR. Kreider you

1837
00:56:14,278 --> 00:56:17,480
have ten minutes in aggregate.

1838
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,548
>> thank you very much.

1839
00:56:17,548 --> 00:56:18,983
Rumors of the council.

1840
00:56:18,983 --> 00:56:22,860
My name is sunny kreider work

1841
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:24,486
for david simone signature

1842
00:56:24,823 --> 00:56:27,492
homes work crew serving in east

1843
00:56:27,492 --> 00:56:30,492
for over 43 years and the

1844
00:56:32,330 --> 00:56:35,930
request is theresa owned to and

1845
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,237
one d this is a this three

1846
00:56:39,237 --> 00:56:41,637
acres at 7000 old providence

1847
00:56:42,708 --> 00:56:44,743
road it is a two david is a

1848
00:56:44,743 --> 00:56:47,143
really special opportunity to

1849
00:56:47,813 --> 00:56:48,380
create not just a single family

1850
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:50,849
home here and there but to

1851
00:56:50,849 --> 00:56:53,585
create a real community and

1852
00:56:53,585 --> 00:56:56,221
give that our whole company is

1853
00:56:56,221 --> 00:56:58,621
really excited about the

1854
00:56:59,224 --> 00:57:02,224
possibility for what david can

1855
00:57:04,363 --> 00:57:04,997
do with his vision that he'll

1856
00:57:04,997 --> 00:57:07,397
create something with lasting

1857
00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:10,133
contribution and enhanced

1858
00:57:10,535 --> 00:57:13,535
values to the whole area.

1859
00:57:15,373 --> 00:57:18,973
Just a couple examples of the

1860
00:57:42,101 --> 00:57:45,101
school that's going is our

1861
00:57:45,237 --> 00:57:48,837
presentation on in that I'm not

1862
00:57:49,274 --> 00:57:52,274
in there I'll ask questions

1863
00:58:05,390 --> 00:58:08,990
generally MR. Time is there are

1864
00:58:10,463 --> 00:58:11,164
we having a technical issue?

1865
00:58:11,164 --> 00:58:14,164
I believe they're looking for

1866
00:58:16,936 --> 00:58:19,439
their slides and I will see if

1867
00:58:19,439 --> 00:58:20,306
somebody else has them.

1868
00:58:20,306 --> 00:58:22,875
Well the studio is part of the

1869
00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:26,475
time while we find the slides.

1870
00:58:50,137 --> 00:58:53,137
>> thank you so we're working

1871
00:58:54,741 --> 00:58:58,511
of the best way I can say it is

1872
00:58:58,511 --> 00:59:02,711
we have we can see holes in

1873
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,720
okay okay pretty close.

1874
00:59:08,822 --> 00:59:11,822
And your name is street.

1875
00:59:19,133 --> 00:59:21,769
That's yeah he said he have we

1876
00:59:21,769 --> 00:59:25,369
determine if we have the slide

1877
00:59:25,406 --> 00:59:25,606
I believe I do not have them on

1878
00:59:25,606 --> 00:59:26,307
hand.

1879
00:59:26,307 --> 00:59:27,574
We're trying to see if they can

1880
00:59:27,574 --> 00:59:27,875
send them to somebody else

1881
00:59:27,875 --> 00:59:29,875
right now.

1882
00:59:35,683 --> 00:59:36,217
Okay well we are using the next

1883
00:59:36,217 --> 00:59:36,384
one and then come back.

1884
00:59:36,384 --> 00:59:38,384
Yes.

1885
00:59:38,586 --> 00:59:40,754
So why don't we do this because

1886
00:59:40,754 --> 00:59:41,222
we want to continue to advance

1887
00:59:41,222 --> 00:59:43,222
in the agenda.

1888
00:59:44,580 --> 00:59:44,725
>> so while you all are looking

1889
00:59:44,725 --> 00:59:47,161
for your slides, we're going to

1890
00:59:47,161 --> 00:59:49,596
move to the next petition and

1891
00:59:49,596 --> 00:59:50,230
after that petition will return

1892
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:51,932
if you have your slides

1893
00:59:51,932 --> 00:59:52,266
available.

1894
00:59:52,266 --> 00:59:52,632
>> okay.

1895
00:59:52,632 --> 00:59:54,632
All right.

1896
00:59:55,703 --> 00:59:55,937
Thank you, MR. Smith and MR.

1897
00:59:55,937 --> 00:59:57,937
Crater.

1898
01:00:00,608 --> 01:00:02,944
>> so who's the last one to be

1899
01:00:02,944 --> 01:00:05,780
with that then we're going to

1900
01:00:05,780 --> 01:00:06,380
advance to agenda item 21 and

1901
01:00:06,380 --> 01:00:08,582
we'll come back when your

1902
01:00:08,582 --> 01:00:10,582
slides are ready.

1903
01:00:10,785 --> 01:00:13,185
Agenda item 21 is petition

1904
01:00:15,757 --> 01:00:17,792
number 2026 017 by kevin curran

1905
01:00:17,792 --> 01:00:19,792
it's approximately 7.85 acres

1906
01:00:20,929 --> 01:00:23,898
located north of avondale drive

1907
01:00:23,898 --> 01:00:27,268
west of shalamar drive and east

1908
01:00:27,268 --> 01:00:29,304
of in tour avenue in the 80 j

1909
01:00:29,304 --> 01:00:29,571
closest to MR. Graham's

1910
01:00:29,571 --> 01:00:31,571
district.

1911
01:00:33,275 --> 01:00:33,909
The site is currently zone

1912
01:00:33,909 --> 01:00:36,477
neighborhood one eight in the

1913
01:00:36,477 --> 01:00:38,877
proposed zoning is neighborhood

1914
01:00:39,147 --> 01:00:39,681
one see conditional once again

1915
01:00:39,681 --> 01:00:42,810
staff does not recommend

1916
01:00:42,984 --> 01:00:45,621
approve all of this petition in

1917
01:00:45,621 --> 01:00:47,656
its current form so the

1918
01:00:47,656 --> 01:00:48,223
petitioner will have ten

1919
01:00:48,223 --> 01:00:50,623
minutes to speak following

1920
01:00:50,759 --> 01:00:53,159
staff presentation and MR.

1921
01:00:53,262 --> 01:00:53,895
Sharkey I see you are in the

1922
01:00:53,895 --> 01:00:56,364
audience and you are signed up

1923
01:00:56,364 --> 01:00:58,900
to speak against this petition.

1924
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:01,300
So after staff's presentation

1925
01:01:01,403 --> 01:01:01,636
the petitioner will have ten

1926
01:01:01,636 --> 01:01:03,506
minutes.

1927
01:01:03,506 --> 01:01:04,206
MR. Sharkey you'll have ten

1928
01:01:04,206 --> 01:01:06,775
minutes and then there'll be an

1929
01:01:06,775 --> 01:01:07,420
opportunity for two minute

1930
01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:07,376
rebuttal.

1931
01:01:07,376 --> 01:01:09,376
>> thank you.

1932
01:01:11,246 --> 01:01:13,646
Petition 20.6017 is a 7.85 acre

1933
01:01:14,216 --> 01:01:16,718
site located on riverdale drive

1934
01:01:16,718 --> 01:01:18,687
shalamar drive and winter

1935
01:01:18,687 --> 01:01:19,321
avenue plan proposes nine units

1936
01:01:19,321 --> 01:01:21,721
including seven single family

1937
01:01:21,924 --> 01:01:24,293
detached dwellings and one

1938
01:01:24,293 --> 01:01:24,894
duplex on a site that is

1939
01:01:24,894 --> 01:01:26,562
currently developed with the

1940
01:01:26,562 --> 01:01:27,163
single family house current

1941
01:01:27,163 --> 01:01:30,650
zoning is neighborhood one a

1942
01:01:30,650 --> 01:01:31,834
proposed zoning is in one c cd

1943
01:01:31,834 --> 01:01:34,234
neighborhood one c commercial

1944
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:36,638
conditional excuse me the 2040

1945
01:01:36,638 --> 01:01:37,272
policy map recommends the

1946
01:01:37,272 --> 01:01:37,606
neighborhood and one place type

1947
01:01:37,606 --> 01:01:39,606
for the site.

1948
01:01:39,709 --> 01:01:40,376
The plan is in alignment with

1949
01:01:40,376 --> 01:01:42,712
the neighborhood one place type

1950
01:01:42,712 --> 01:01:43,346
the rezoning calls for the

1951
01:01:43,346 --> 01:01:45,810
development up to nine rolling

1952
01:01:45,810 --> 01:01:47,950
units as I mentioned that would

1953
01:01:47,950 --> 01:01:49,819
be on eight lots including up

1954
01:01:49,819 --> 01:01:50,453
to seven single family detached

1955
01:01:50,453 --> 01:01:51,654
dwellings and one duplex

1956
01:01:51,654 --> 01:01:52,321
dwelling containing two units

1957
01:01:52,321 --> 01:01:55,570
each lot will have a minimum

1958
01:01:55,570 --> 01:01:58,128
lot area of 10,000ft which is

1959
01:01:58,128 --> 01:02:00,697
the minimum lot area for in one

1960
01:02:00,697 --> 01:02:01,264
a district and all lots will

1961
01:02:01,264 --> 01:02:01,631
gain access from existing

1962
01:02:01,631 --> 01:02:03,366
public streets.

1963
01:02:03,366 --> 01:02:05,602
There will be no new public

1964
01:02:05,602 --> 01:02:08,671
streets on this site while the

1965
01:02:08,671 --> 01:02:09,338
plan is in alignment with the

1966
01:02:09,338 --> 01:02:11,474
policy map, it is inconsistent

1967
01:02:11,474 --> 01:02:12,141
with the goals and policies of

1968
01:02:12,141 --> 01:02:12,341
the west middle community area

1969
01:02:12,341 --> 01:02:14,341
plan.

1970
01:02:14,444 --> 01:02:17,214
The proposed plan does not meet

1971
01:02:17,214 --> 01:02:17,781
the policy type five five

1972
01:02:17,781 --> 01:02:19,816
criteria from the community

1973
01:02:19,816 --> 01:02:22,216
area plan 55 criteria are

1974
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:23,186
utilized to ensure new

1975
01:02:23,186 --> 01:02:23,519
development within the

1976
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:24,954
neighborhood.

1977
01:02:24,954 --> 01:02:27,724
One place type fits existing

1978
01:02:27,724 --> 01:02:28,491
neighborhood patterns focusing

1979
01:02:28,491 --> 01:02:31,228
on lot size street frontage and

1980
01:02:31,228 --> 01:02:33,730
parcel location within a block.

1981
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:36,466
The proposed rezoning does not

1982
01:02:36,466 --> 01:02:38,866
fully meet pt5 expectations

1983
01:02:39,770 --> 01:02:40,337
because the lots width and lot

1984
01:02:40,337 --> 01:02:42,337
dimensions are significantly

1985
01:02:42,739 --> 01:02:43,273
smaller than those of the

1986
01:02:43,273 --> 01:02:45,273
surrounding neighborhood.

1987
01:02:45,442 --> 01:02:46,142
So even though it meets that

1988
01:02:46,142 --> 01:02:48,312
minimum lot area for in one a

1989
01:02:48,312 --> 01:02:51,810
it's not the proposed lots

1990
01:02:51,810 --> 01:02:51,649
would typically be smaller than

1991
01:02:51,649 --> 01:02:54,490
those in the existing

1992
01:02:54,385 --> 01:02:56,386
neighborhood and this plan

1993
01:02:56,386 --> 01:02:57,200
would not facilitate in

1994
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:57,654
community area plan priority

1995
01:02:57,654 --> 01:02:59,589
goals staff does not recommend

1996
01:02:59,589 --> 01:03:00,257
approval.

1997
01:03:00,257 --> 01:03:02,659
This petition in its current

1998
01:03:02,659 --> 01:03:03,226
form for this plan does not

1999
01:03:03,226 --> 01:03:05,363
meet the five criteria in

2000
01:03:05,363 --> 01:03:06,300
regards to lot dimensions in

2001
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:08,990
relation to the adjacent single

2002
01:03:08,990 --> 01:03:08,733
family development pattern and

2003
01:03:08,733 --> 01:03:09,100
the plan does not forward any

2004
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,100
priority goals.

2005
01:03:11,302 --> 01:03:11,902
The community area plan however

2006
01:03:11,902 --> 01:03:14,505
the plan proposes with low

2007
01:03:14,505 --> 01:03:15,139
intensity primarily single

2008
01:03:15,139 --> 01:03:17,174
family detached dwellings along

2009
01:03:17,174 --> 01:03:17,808
public streets which is in

2010
01:03:17,808 --> 01:03:19,509
keeping with the character of

2011
01:03:19,509 --> 01:03:20,100
the neighborhood.

2012
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,100
Proposed dimensions and

2013
01:03:22,479 --> 01:03:23,800
setbacks should be revised to

2014
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,550
better match the existing lot

2015
01:03:25,550 --> 01:03:26,284
pattern in the area.

2016
01:03:26,284 --> 01:03:26,784
I'm happy to take any questions

2017
01:03:26,784 --> 01:03:28,190
following petitioner's

2018
01:03:28,190 --> 01:03:28,286
presentation.

2019
01:03:28,286 --> 01:03:30,286
>> okay.

2020
01:03:30,521 --> 01:03:31,121
Thank you and MR. Shark I

2021
01:03:31,121 --> 01:03:31,322
misspoke you on the next one

2022
01:03:31,322 --> 01:03:33,322
right.

2023
01:03:33,657 --> 01:03:34,580
This is now.

2024
01:03:34,580 --> 01:03:36,580
Yes, sir.

2025
01:03:36,894 --> 01:03:37,561
This is MR. Curran and he just

2026
01:03:37,561 --> 01:03:39,697
signed up which is why he's not

2027
01:03:39,697 --> 01:03:41,697
on our own.

2028
01:03:41,799 --> 01:03:42,500
Our pieces of paper colleagues

2029
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:42,734
so MR. Curran, you have ten

2030
01:03:42,734 --> 01:03:42,901
minutes.

2031
01:03:42,901 --> 01:03:44,901
Yes.

2032
01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:45,703
Thank you.

2033
01:03:45,703 --> 01:03:46,104
Thank you, council, for all the

2034
01:03:46,104 --> 01:03:48,504
work that you do.

2035
01:03:48,606 --> 01:03:49,207
So yes, my name is kevin curran

2036
01:03:49,207 --> 01:03:51,109
and the reason why I'm here

2037
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:52,643
today is to ask for this

2038
01:03:52,643 --> 01:03:53,344
rezoning to move from in one 8

2039
01:03:53,344 --> 01:03:55,846
in 1 c specifically for the

2040
01:03:55,846 --> 01:03:58,116
purpose of just gaining two

2041
01:03:58,116 --> 01:04:00,852
more lots excuse me there are

2042
01:04:00,852 --> 01:04:01,586
some some some very important

2043
01:04:01,586 --> 01:04:04,689
people to me that I have been

2044
01:04:04,689 --> 01:04:05,323
friends with for a very, very

2045
01:04:05,323 --> 01:04:07,492
long time now with the church

2046
01:04:07,492 --> 01:04:09,827
and they would like to stay

2047
01:04:09,827 --> 01:04:12,827
close together as a family.

2048
01:04:14,365 --> 01:04:14,999
This one family has grown into

2049
01:04:14,999 --> 01:04:17,399
three separate households and

2050
01:04:17,769 --> 01:04:18,337
the children would like to stay

2051
01:04:18,337 --> 01:04:21,337
close to their parents but

2052
01:04:22,874 --> 01:04:23,441
really finding affordable land

2053
01:04:23,441 --> 01:04:24,109
to build three homes in

2054
01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:26,344
charlotte beside each other is

2055
01:04:26,344 --> 01:04:26,745
proven to be a difficult task

2056
01:04:26,745 --> 01:04:28,745
for this lease.

2057
01:04:29,514 --> 01:04:32,316
These ones and so since I have

2058
01:04:32,316 --> 01:04:34,587
this land that I'm willing to

2059
01:04:34,587 --> 01:04:35,354
sell to them at below market

2060
01:04:35,354 --> 01:04:39,224
costs for them to be able to

2061
01:04:39,224 --> 01:04:39,925
fulfill their desire for two to

2062
01:04:39,925 --> 01:04:42,494
out of their parents but at the

2063
01:04:42,494 --> 01:04:44,763
current zoning I just do not

2064
01:04:44,763 --> 01:04:46,798
have enough land to also

2065
01:04:46,798 --> 01:04:49,901
fulfill the plans that I have

2066
01:04:49,901 --> 01:04:52,901
for this property and to

2067
01:04:53,339 --> 01:04:53,506
address the staff's disapproval

2068
01:04:53,506 --> 01:04:54,306
.

2069
01:04:54,306 --> 01:04:56,975
I'm just really asking for

2070
01:04:56,975 --> 01:04:59,611
leniency on the lot with I am

2071
01:04:59,611 --> 01:05:01,313
willing to comply with all the

2072
01:05:01,313 --> 01:05:03,281
conditions of the n1a zoning to

2073
01:05:03,281 --> 01:05:05,681
keep the 10,000 square foot

2074
01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:06,718
minimum lot sizes and I'm

2075
01:05:06,718 --> 01:05:09,718
willing to conditions to comply

2076
01:05:10,423 --> 01:05:12,325
with the 27 foot setbacks from

2077
01:05:12,325 --> 01:05:14,727
the front and the 40 foot rear

2078
01:05:14,727 --> 01:05:15,394
setbacks as well into to follow

2079
01:05:15,394 --> 01:05:17,796
all the ordinance when it comes

2080
01:05:17,796 --> 01:05:18,364
to the air quality in the

2081
01:05:18,364 --> 01:05:20,699
erosion control during any

2082
01:05:20,699 --> 01:05:23,990
construction that would happen

2083
01:05:23,669 --> 01:05:24,236
now my understanding is that I

2084
01:05:24,236 --> 01:05:26,406
can achieve the number of

2085
01:05:26,406 --> 01:05:29,375
dwelling units that I am

2086
01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:30,900
seeking by currently building

2087
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:32,578
duplexes and triplexes by right

2088
01:05:32,578 --> 01:05:35,381
under the existing zoning and

2089
01:05:35,381 --> 01:05:37,781
the existing entitlement does

2090
01:05:37,977 --> 01:05:40,827
allow up to 23 dwelling units

2091
01:05:40,827 --> 01:05:43,382
on this property but in my

2092
01:05:43,382 --> 01:05:46,711
opinion that would be way more

2093
01:05:46,711 --> 01:05:49,711
out of character with the

2094
01:05:49,736 --> 01:05:51,264
surrounding neighborhood than

2095
01:05:51,264 --> 01:05:51,738
what I'm proposing as part of

2096
01:05:51,738 --> 01:05:52,730
this petition.

2097
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:52,296
I know in the in the community

2098
01:05:52,296 --> 01:05:52,480
meeting there do not to be

2099
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,366
appeared to be any strong

2100
01:05:53,366 --> 01:05:53,666
objections to what was

2101
01:05:53,666 --> 01:05:54,367
proposing.

2102
01:05:54,367 --> 01:05:56,402
The discussion did seem to

2103
01:05:56,402 --> 01:05:58,604
center primarily on the traffic

2104
01:05:58,604 --> 01:06:01,400
and stormwater and regarding

2105
01:06:01,775 --> 01:06:04,678
the concerns about the traffic

2106
01:06:04,678 --> 01:06:07,113
staff did an analysis and they

2107
01:06:07,113 --> 01:06:07,747
determined that based on the

2108
01:06:07,747 --> 01:06:10,147
entitlement up to 23 dwelling

2109
01:06:10,316 --> 01:06:10,650
units it would equate up to 261

2110
01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:12,650
trips a day.

2111
01:06:13,353 --> 01:06:16,155
But my petition would limit the

2112
01:06:16,155 --> 01:06:17,791
numbers of dwelling units to

2113
01:06:17,791 --> 01:06:18,580
nine which would only add 110

2114
01:06:18,580 --> 01:06:20,580
per day.

2115
01:06:20,394 --> 01:06:20,894
So those are well below what

2116
01:06:20,894 --> 01:06:23,294
current time is that?

2117
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:25,932
I would not have to seek for

2118
01:06:25,932 --> 01:06:28,501
rezoning on and on regarding

2119
01:06:28,501 --> 01:06:29,136
the concerns about the

2120
01:06:29,136 --> 01:06:32,136
stormwater runoff I did contact

2121
01:06:32,272 --> 01:06:33,506
an engineer about it and they

2122
01:06:33,506 --> 01:06:34,240
told me I will have to conduct

2123
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,410
a 100 plus one stormwater

2124
01:06:36,410 --> 01:06:39,246
analysis to establish the flood

2125
01:06:39,246 --> 01:06:41,315
elevation of the creek that

2126
01:06:41,315 --> 01:06:42,160
runs adjacent to this property

2127
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,351
and whenever these lights would

2128
01:06:44,351 --> 01:06:44,985
be developed we will make sure

2129
01:06:44,985 --> 01:06:47,487
to design the grades in a way

2130
01:06:47,487 --> 01:06:49,990
to keep the runoff from flowing

2131
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:50,557
into the neighboring lots as

2132
01:06:50,557 --> 01:06:52,957
these lights that we're

2133
01:06:53,828 --> 01:06:54,495
currently proposing are at low

2134
01:06:54,495 --> 01:06:56,530
point in the neighborhood they

2135
01:06:56,530 --> 01:06:57,164
mostly drain to the creek that

2136
01:06:57,164 --> 01:06:59,233
flows to the property that I

2137
01:06:59,233 --> 01:07:02,102
own already has it here.

2138
01:07:02,102 --> 01:07:02,770
So we just want to address the

2139
01:07:02,770 --> 01:07:04,304
the neighbors concerns and tell

2140
01:07:04,304 --> 01:07:05,380
them we're going to do as much

2141
01:07:05,380 --> 01:07:07,107
as we can to to keep their

2142
01:07:07,107 --> 01:07:09,843
concerns at a minimum I am

2143
01:07:09,843 --> 01:07:12,843
going to amend this petition

2144
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:13,614
later on to take off a portion

2145
01:07:13,614 --> 01:07:16,184
of the property on ventura.

2146
01:07:16,184 --> 01:07:18,986
I was informed that I do not

2147
01:07:18,986 --> 01:07:19,620
need to keep that property on

2148
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:22,490
there so which would drop off

2149
01:07:22,490 --> 01:07:22,690
language of the the duplex as

2150
01:07:22,690 --> 01:07:23,390
well.

2151
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:25,426
so really only the five locks

2152
01:07:25,426 --> 01:07:27,428
on shallow more is what we're

2153
01:07:27,428 --> 01:07:30,640
going to be seeking eventually

2154
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:30,865
not even the eight lots so what

2155
01:07:30,865 --> 01:07:33,568
that's all I have I'll take

2156
01:07:33,568 --> 01:07:35,603
questions if you do have okay

2157
01:07:35,603 --> 01:07:36,170
any questions?

2158
01:07:36,170 --> 01:07:38,570
I do, MR. Mayor.

2159
01:07:38,973 --> 01:07:41,973
Thank you again, staff great

2160
01:07:43,511 --> 01:07:46,414
job with your due diligence to

2161
01:07:46,414 --> 01:07:47,115
the petitioner, are you willing

2162
01:07:47,115 --> 01:07:49,651
to revise the dimensions and

2163
01:07:49,651 --> 01:07:50,285
setbacks so that this

2164
01:07:50,285 --> 01:07:52,685
development better matches the

2165
01:07:52,954 --> 01:07:55,457
existing lot written in the

2166
01:07:55,457 --> 01:07:56,157
surrounding neighborhood?

2167
01:07:56,157 --> 01:07:58,557
Does this currently doesn't

2168
01:08:00,528 --> 01:08:03,528
align with the current current

2169
01:08:04,132 --> 01:08:04,833
setbacks in one a is 27 foot

2170
01:08:04,833 --> 01:08:06,568
that's what we are willing to

2171
01:08:06,568 --> 01:08:09,371
go to 27 foot yes ma'am okay so

2172
01:08:09,371 --> 01:08:12,371
the staff recommends that so

2173
01:08:20,316 --> 01:08:22,651
currently please stay to be

2174
01:08:22,651 --> 01:08:24,987
replaced by five right?

2175
01:08:24,987 --> 01:08:27,387
>> yes the criteria okay.

2176
01:08:30,158 --> 01:08:30,759
And so I know that your well in

2177
01:08:30,759 --> 01:08:33,228
in your analysis you had

2178
01:08:33,228 --> 01:08:33,495
mentioned the dimensions and

2179
01:08:33,495 --> 01:08:35,495
setbacks.

2180
01:08:35,763 --> 01:08:38,163
What would that be?

2181
01:08:39,135 --> 01:08:41,470
I guess how much should they be

2182
01:08:41,470 --> 01:08:43,672
revised to better fit the

2183
01:08:43,672 --> 01:08:44,440
existing neighborhood?

2184
01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:46,275
>> yeah, I don't have the

2185
01:08:46,275 --> 01:08:46,909
dimensions in front of yes.

2186
01:08:46,909 --> 01:08:49,278
So something staff can work

2187
01:08:49,278 --> 01:08:49,878
with you on if you're willing

2188
01:08:49,878 --> 01:08:51,947
to work with staff on that

2189
01:08:51,947 --> 01:08:52,480
because we want to make sure

2190
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:53,115
that it fits into the

2191
01:08:53,115 --> 01:08:55,515
neighborhood's character so it

2192
01:08:55,551 --> 01:08:57,854
doesn't look out of place as we

2193
01:08:57,854 --> 01:08:58,540
often get complaints about

2194
01:08:58,540 --> 01:08:58,354
that.

2195
01:08:58,354 --> 01:09:00,354
Yes ma'am.

2196
01:09:01,424 --> 01:09:01,857
I'm willing to to do whatever

2197
01:09:01,857 --> 01:09:03,692
work is necessary.

2198
01:09:03,692 --> 01:09:06,562
They are long there would be

2199
01:09:06,562 --> 01:09:07,229
long lots but there is that

2200
01:09:07,229 --> 01:09:09,131
creek that runs behind it so

2201
01:09:09,131 --> 01:09:11,800
there is a buffer stream buffer

2202
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,604
there in order to do setbacks

2203
01:09:14,604 --> 01:09:15,305
from the stream and setbacks on

2204
01:09:15,305 --> 01:09:17,807
the front there is a in an

2205
01:09:17,807 --> 01:09:18,541
allowable building area.

2206
01:09:18,541 --> 01:09:20,309
I'm not sure of what that is

2207
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:21,770
but yes, maximum sure has.

2208
01:09:21,770 --> 01:09:23,379
>> so yeah, we're we're going

2209
01:09:23,379 --> 01:09:23,579
to work with the petitioner on

2210
01:09:23,579 --> 01:09:25,579
this.

2211
01:09:26,810 --> 01:09:26,649
So you're not recommending

2212
01:09:26,649 --> 01:09:27,282
anything current form that

2213
01:09:27,282 --> 01:09:29,452
means there kind of is a we

2214
01:09:29,452 --> 01:09:30,860
feel there is a path forward to

2215
01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:31,621
get to a place where we could

2216
01:09:31,621 --> 01:09:32,355
recommend approval.

2217
01:09:32,355 --> 01:09:33,990
>> so we'll we'll work with the

2218
01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:34,724
petitioner on this.

2219
01:09:34,724 --> 01:09:37,227
Yes, I would I would suggest

2220
01:09:37,227 --> 01:09:39,596
that you continue to work with

2221
01:09:39,596 --> 01:09:40,960
staff to get their approval so

2222
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,565
that it fits into the

2223
01:09:42,565 --> 01:09:42,865
neighborhood's character that's

2224
01:09:42,865 --> 01:09:43,232
all right.

2225
01:09:43,232 --> 01:09:43,633
>> thank you.

2226
01:09:43,633 --> 01:09:45,601
Thank you, MS..

2227
01:09:45,601 --> 01:09:46,169
Mayor.

2228
01:09:46,169 --> 01:09:48,569
I would agree with

2229
01:09:48,672 --> 01:09:49,306
councilmember are just hoping

2230
01:09:49,306 --> 01:09:51,808
that you'll continue to work

2231
01:09:51,808 --> 01:09:54,277
with staff I'd love to see some

2232
01:09:54,277 --> 01:09:54,945
site plans this you know, being

2233
01:09:54,945 --> 01:09:56,780
conditional I just felt it's a

2234
01:09:56,780 --> 01:09:59,180
little broad particularly as

2235
01:09:59,816 --> 01:10:00,417
staff is given some very

2236
01:10:00,417 --> 01:10:00,750
specific things that they're

2237
01:10:00,750 --> 01:10:02,750
looking for.

2238
01:10:02,885 --> 01:10:04,922
So I would just like more

2239
01:10:04,922 --> 01:10:05,489
specifications so that we

2240
01:10:05,489 --> 01:10:07,724
understand exactly what we

2241
01:10:07,724 --> 01:10:08,325
would be approving right now I

2242
01:10:08,325 --> 01:10:11,325
don't feel comfortable in its

2243
01:10:13,130 --> 01:10:13,630
current form but oh okay.

2244
01:10:13,630 --> 01:10:15,630
Any other comment?

2245
01:10:15,999 --> 01:10:16,234
No move to close the hearing

2246
01:10:16,234 --> 01:10:16,600
second.

2247
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,600
>> all right.

2248
01:10:18,969 --> 01:10:21,304
All in favor of closing public

2249
01:10:21,304 --> 01:10:21,638
hearing raise hands any oppose

2250
01:10:21,638 --> 01:10:23,638
thank you.

2251
01:10:23,974 --> 01:10:24,675
that's unanimous and have we

2252
01:10:24,675 --> 01:10:27,440
and thank you MR. Curran have

2253
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:27,244
we resolved the technical

2254
01:10:27,244 --> 01:10:27,444
issue?

2255
01:10:27,444 --> 01:10:29,444
Okay.

2256
01:10:29,446 --> 01:10:32,446
So then let's let's backtrack

2257
01:10:34,151 --> 01:10:37,151
back to item number 22 crater

2258
01:10:40,391 --> 01:10:42,560
and once your slides are up MR.

2259
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:43,127
Smith and MR. Crater you will

2260
01:10:43,127 --> 01:10:46,300
have eight minutes if the

2261
01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:48,399
studio could set the timer back

2262
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:48,866
to the eight minutes that's how

2263
01:10:48,866 --> 01:10:50,934
many minutes you had.

2264
01:10:50,934 --> 01:10:51,468
Okay.

2265
01:10:51,468 --> 01:10:51,769
Thank you very much.

2266
01:10:51,769 --> 01:10:53,769
All right.

2267
01:10:55,939 --> 01:10:59,770
Are presentation is up there as

2268
01:10:59,770 --> 01:11:01,479
I was referring to earlier were

2269
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,382
to show you some examples of

2270
01:11:04,382 --> 01:11:05,820
david's vision and what he can

2271
01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:07,685
create other than when he gets

2272
01:11:07,685 --> 01:11:08,386
a neighborhood that he can do

2273
01:11:08,386 --> 01:11:10,621
other than just a single family

2274
01:11:10,621 --> 01:11:12,621
which are incredible.

2275
01:11:12,990 --> 01:11:15,326
Yeah, the first one this is

2276
01:11:15,326 --> 01:11:17,896
from current grants is a

2277
01:11:17,896 --> 01:11:20,331
mixture of french villas and a

2278
01:11:20,331 --> 01:11:21,320
little one in cobblestone

2279
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,320
street this at the back

2280
01:11:25,670 --> 01:11:26,337
appellant would the first time

2281
01:11:26,337 --> 01:11:28,739
I saw this I thought walt

2282
01:11:28,739 --> 01:11:29,340
disney had done this

2283
01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:31,742
neighborhood and I think that

2284
01:11:31,742 --> 01:11:34,546
you would probably agree if you

2285
01:11:34,546 --> 01:11:36,414
were to view it itself the the

2286
01:11:36,414 --> 01:11:38,750
talent and the energy that it

2287
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:41,419
took him to create this is just

2288
01:11:41,419 --> 01:11:42,220
is mind boggling.

2289
01:11:42,220 --> 01:11:44,856
The second one is chipping

2290
01:11:44,856 --> 01:11:45,423
campden which is on vernon

2291
01:11:45,423 --> 01:11:47,823
drive between wendover and

2292
01:11:49,862 --> 01:11:51,862
providence road.

2293
01:11:52,431 --> 01:11:56,310
This is an english village that

2294
01:11:58,700 --> 01:11:58,603
david created based on

2295
01:11:58,603 --> 01:12:00,603
townhomes with terraces

2296
01:12:01,406 --> 01:12:03,806
overlooking the english garden

2297
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:05,710
that at the time in 2002 was

2298
01:12:05,710 --> 01:12:08,380
about half million dollars just

2299
01:12:08,380 --> 01:12:10,380
for the garden.

2300
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:14,950
The town homes here now selling

2301
01:12:16,955 --> 01:12:19,355
$2.5 million range is an

2302
01:12:19,924 --> 01:12:22,694
interesting story is that the

2303
01:12:22,694 --> 01:12:23,328
english press covered this in

2304
01:12:23,328 --> 01:12:25,728
several newspapers and actually

2305
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:28,701
did on air interviews with bbc

2306
01:12:28,701 --> 01:12:31,403
with the couple agents and we

2307
01:12:31,403 --> 01:12:34,306
also had a couple from the

2308
01:12:34,306 --> 01:12:34,973
cotswolds come visit chip in

2309
01:12:34,973 --> 01:12:37,209
camera to see that it was real.

2310
01:12:37,209 --> 01:12:39,378
That's how dynamic this

2311
01:12:39,378 --> 01:12:40,780
development was.

2312
01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:42,448
So again we're excited about

2313
01:12:42,448 --> 01:12:44,448
that opportunity.

2314
01:12:44,617 --> 01:12:47,170
Three properties current lives

2315
01:12:49,455 --> 01:12:49,955
own in one be requested zoning

2316
01:12:49,955 --> 01:12:52,355
is in one day.

2317
01:12:56,962 --> 01:13:00,562
There's 2 to 3 acres and we the

2318
01:13:04,304 --> 01:13:06,572
proposal is for single family

2319
01:13:06,572 --> 01:13:10,772
ten lots 50ft wide is a minimum

2320
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:11,744
and 6000ft I'll get to a

2321
01:13:11,744 --> 01:13:14,800
preliminary site plan in a

2322
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,480
moment that preliminary layout

2323
01:13:16,949 --> 01:13:18,685
actually there been a lot

2324
01:13:18,685 --> 01:13:21,685
majority lot sort of 55 and

2325
01:13:24,791 --> 01:13:27,126
closer to 60 700ft and as far

2326
01:13:27,126 --> 01:13:30,126
as density it's at 3.4 units

2327
01:13:31,898 --> 01:13:35,498
per acre which is less than

2328
01:13:35,636 --> 01:13:38,360
than the neighborhood here.

2329
01:13:38,672 --> 01:13:42,272
And here is again our really

2330
01:13:42,442 --> 01:13:44,477
our clientele are four age

2331
01:13:44,477 --> 01:13:46,477
targeted.

2332
01:13:46,813 --> 01:13:47,747
That's the majority of who we

2333
01:13:47,747 --> 01:13:50,516
we build to and sell to and

2334
01:13:50,516 --> 01:13:50,717
that I expect no different

2335
01:13:50,717 --> 01:13:52,717
here.

2336
01:13:53,530 --> 01:13:53,620
It's one of the reasons that

2337
01:13:53,620 --> 01:13:56,200
we're very intentional about

2338
01:13:56,230 --> 01:13:58,959
having a certain lot size and

2339
01:13:58,959 --> 01:14:03,159
yard area so that we could keep

2340
01:14:03,530 --> 01:14:06,499
that to a minimum and so it's

2341
01:14:06,499 --> 01:14:09,168
like say it really works well

2342
01:14:09,168 --> 01:14:11,572
if you get approved here are

2343
01:14:11,572 --> 01:14:13,972
just some other neighborhoods

2344
01:14:14,842 --> 01:14:17,277
nearby this is the neighborhood

2345
01:14:17,277 --> 01:14:19,677
subject neighborhood and again

2346
01:14:20,347 --> 01:14:21,982
the lots on our site now which

2347
01:14:21,982 --> 01:14:24,618
I'll show you in a moment is

2348
01:14:24,618 --> 01:14:24,818
55ft wide and there is 60

2349
01:14:24,818 --> 01:14:26,818
700ft.

2350
01:14:30,558 --> 01:14:31,325
Mason next door there and there

2351
01:14:31,325 --> 01:14:34,925
was in the report said that

2352
01:14:35,796 --> 01:14:38,196
there's 63ft and they're

2353
01:14:38,866 --> 01:14:39,990
actually the flats that are 58

2354
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:41,990
and 59.

2355
01:14:41,902 --> 01:14:44,238
This little difference there

2356
01:14:44,238 --> 01:14:47,238
and a little higher density

2357
01:14:49,844 --> 01:14:50,545
also and hopefully a couple of

2358
01:14:50,545 --> 01:14:53,470
you got emails from mason

2359
01:14:53,470 --> 01:14:55,470
neighborhood expressing their

2360
01:14:56,484 --> 01:14:58,886
desire to see this go forward

2361
01:14:58,886 --> 01:15:02,560
we dealt with them before we

2362
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,526
even applied for rezoning and

2363
01:15:04,526 --> 01:15:06,926
they were overwhelmingly in

2364
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:07,295
favor of what we were proposing

2365
01:15:07,295 --> 01:15:09,295
to do.

2366
01:15:09,998 --> 01:15:11,900
We got a couple other

2367
01:15:11,900 --> 01:15:12,400
neighborhoods you've got these

2368
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,400
are 60 foot lots.

2369
01:15:14,702 --> 01:15:15,269
They're all deeper but I can

2370
01:15:15,269 --> 01:15:17,872
see why that would happen.

2371
01:15:17,872 --> 01:15:20,475
Then you've got for some reason

2372
01:15:20,475 --> 01:15:21,276
old man or white matter didn't

2373
01:15:21,276 --> 01:15:24,846
make that the cut of of the

2374
01:15:24,846 --> 01:15:27,846
what was analyzed but they're

2375
01:15:30,180 --> 01:15:31,586
50ft wide and 60 200ft deep as

2376
01:15:31,586 --> 01:15:32,286
you can see over here this is

2377
01:15:32,286 --> 01:15:36,486
one of the mary one of the

2378
01:15:37,292 --> 01:15:38,127
neighborhoods that was used

2379
01:15:38,127 --> 01:15:40,280
lots here and a few other

2380
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,280
places.

2381
01:15:43,232 --> 01:15:46,340
One thing that stands out to me

2382
01:15:46,340 --> 01:15:48,303
and we're we're all on board

2383
01:15:48,303 --> 01:15:51,903
with the little plan with the

2384
01:15:53,908 --> 01:15:56,879
2004 area plan where we diverge

2385
01:15:56,879 --> 01:15:59,215
from planning staff is the

2386
01:15:59,215 --> 01:16:02,215
place type five which the

2387
01:16:02,217 --> 01:16:02,685
statement is that it's

2388
01:16:02,685 --> 01:16:04,619
inconsistent with the

2389
01:16:04,619 --> 01:16:06,619
predominant lot pattern.

2390
01:16:07,689 --> 01:16:09,624
I would suggest to you that

2391
01:16:09,624 --> 01:16:10,325
between this one and this one

2392
01:16:10,325 --> 01:16:12,595
and this one and all of those

2393
01:16:12,595 --> 01:16:14,930
there is not a template or

2394
01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:17,930
predominant lot pattern in this

2395
01:16:20,569 --> 01:16:22,569
neighborhood.

2396
01:16:22,838 --> 01:16:24,838
You have 2.5 minutes.

2397
01:16:27,509 --> 01:16:29,509
>> okay.

2398
01:16:30,646 --> 01:16:32,515
That's pretty much all I have

2399
01:16:32,515 --> 01:16:33,820
to say.

2400
01:16:33,820 --> 01:16:35,820
>> I have okay.

2401
01:16:35,718 --> 01:16:36,486
thank you.

2402
01:16:36,486 --> 01:16:38,621
I will go to MR. Driggs and

2403
01:16:38,621 --> 01:16:41,757
then I have a mismatch here.

2404
01:16:41,757 --> 01:16:42,525
>> so MR. Crater, you wrote to

2405
01:16:42,525 --> 01:16:44,560
me a couple of times I was on

2406
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,227
vacation.

2407
01:16:45,227 --> 01:16:47,397
I apologize for not scheduling

2408
01:16:47,397 --> 01:16:49,632
a meeting and it looks like we

2409
01:16:49,632 --> 01:16:50,660
ought to be able to work

2410
01:16:50,660 --> 01:16:52,660
something out here.

2411
01:16:52,902 --> 01:16:53,536
I would just say colleagues,

2412
01:16:53,536 --> 01:16:56,239
what we're seeing actually is

2413
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:58,774
ironic because we started our

2414
01:16:58,774 --> 01:16:59,408
2040 process and we said

2415
01:16:59,408 --> 01:17:01,808
density density density that's

2416
01:17:01,844 --> 01:17:04,844
the answer to rising housing

2417
01:17:05,150 --> 01:17:05,549
costs and now what's happening

2418
01:17:05,549 --> 01:17:07,450
is that because of

2419
01:17:07,450 --> 01:17:09,450
considerations like the

2420
01:17:09,486 --> 01:17:11,821
discussions we had around 2.1

2421
01:17:11,821 --> 01:17:12,288
where we appear to be kind of

2422
01:17:12,288 --> 01:17:14,288
backing from there.

2423
01:17:15,391 --> 01:17:17,760
So I think we haven't yet fully

2424
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,361
solved the question of how we

2425
01:17:18,361 --> 01:17:20,797
achieve the density that is

2426
01:17:20,797 --> 01:17:23,660
needed in order to keep housing

2427
01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:25,466
costs down and compatibility

2428
01:17:26,103 --> 01:17:26,436
with area sensitivity to the

2429
01:17:26,436 --> 01:17:28,436
surroundings.

2430
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:31,908
This looks to me like a

2431
01:17:31,908 --> 01:17:34,244
creative proposal so I hope it

2432
01:17:34,244 --> 01:17:37,244
doesn't get stopped because of

2433
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:38,414
the wording in our plan.

2434
01:17:38,414 --> 01:17:40,250
And what I'd like to do is in

2435
01:17:40,250 --> 01:17:40,884
the next couple of weeks if you

2436
01:17:40,884 --> 01:17:43,530
could give me some dates we'll

2437
01:17:43,530 --> 01:17:45,856
get together, go over it and

2438
01:17:45,856 --> 01:17:46,457
then perhaps I can discuss it

2439
01:17:46,457 --> 01:17:48,225
also with the staff and we'll

2440
01:17:48,225 --> 01:17:48,859
see where we go.

2441
01:17:48,859 --> 01:17:51,495
The vote wouldn't be until

2442
01:17:51,495 --> 01:17:52,262
AUGUST anyway.

2443
01:17:52,262 --> 01:17:54,631
Your chance for me to show just

2444
01:17:54,631 --> 01:17:57,134
a couple more slides I can get

2445
01:17:57,134 --> 01:17:57,902
to do that.

2446
01:17:57,902 --> 01:17:59,470
We've got to get thrown out of

2447
01:17:59,470 --> 01:18:01,470
kilter there.

2448
01:18:02,673 --> 01:18:03,540
Okay, well you I think I'll

2449
01:18:03,540 --> 01:18:06,900
send it to some of you but the

2450
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:08,779
houses that david has already

2451
01:18:08,779 --> 01:18:09,412
started with design he sort of

2452
01:18:09,412 --> 01:18:11,480
goes ahead of it a little bit

2453
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:11,381
but they're incredible.

2454
01:18:11,381 --> 01:18:11,682
>> okay.

2455
01:18:11,682 --> 01:18:13,682
Absolutely.

2456
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:14,585
I didn't ask you a question

2457
01:18:14,585 --> 01:18:17,540
just now so I'm sorry we can't

2458
01:18:17,540 --> 01:18:17,822
discuss it at the moment.

2459
01:18:17,822 --> 01:18:18,389
I'm just suggesting we will get

2460
01:18:18,389 --> 01:18:20,257
together and talk to you.

2461
01:18:20,257 --> 01:18:20,691
Okay.

2462
01:18:20,691 --> 01:18:22,691
>> that's great.

2463
01:18:23,293 --> 01:18:23,494
I want to close with lake

2464
01:18:23,494 --> 01:18:25,429
henry.

2465
01:18:25,429 --> 01:18:26,630
>> we have MISS Ash mira and

2466
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:28,732
then we have MISS Johnson.

2467
01:18:28,732 --> 01:18:31,132
>> okay, so thank you.

2468
01:18:31,368 --> 01:18:31,602
So couple of question, MR.

2469
01:18:31,602 --> 01:18:33,602
Crater.

2470
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:39,400
First of all, simone, is it

2471
01:18:39,343 --> 01:18:39,578
your company you work for the

2472
01:18:39,578 --> 01:18:39,810
company?

2473
01:18:39,810 --> 01:18:41,379
>> yeah.

2474
01:18:41,379 --> 01:18:44,979
You have some of the best

2475
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:46,650
developments but I love the

2476
01:18:46,650 --> 01:18:49,190
first few examples that you

2477
01:18:49,190 --> 01:18:49,253
showed with the garden in the

2478
01:18:49,253 --> 01:18:51,253
middle.

2479
01:18:51,456 --> 01:18:53,456
>> it's beautiful.

2480
01:18:57,395 --> 01:18:58,290
Well first so I'm again similar

2481
01:18:58,290 --> 01:19:00,429
to the previous rezoning

2482
01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:00,998
petition this is a gaining not

2483
01:19:00,998 --> 01:19:02,998
compatible with surrounding

2484
01:19:04,802 --> 01:19:06,604
residential so so you talked

2485
01:19:06,604 --> 01:19:10,204
about there is no template or

2486
01:19:11,776 --> 01:19:14,746
there is no rhythm in in in

2487
01:19:14,746 --> 01:19:17,549
this neighborhood what do you

2488
01:19:17,549 --> 01:19:18,383
mean by that?

2489
01:19:18,383 --> 01:19:20,518
Well, what I was showing you is

2490
01:19:20,518 --> 01:19:23,721
that there are a lot of

2491
01:19:23,721 --> 01:19:24,155
different developments that the

2492
01:19:24,155 --> 01:19:26,555
lots are not there.

2493
01:19:26,625 --> 01:19:28,427
They're all over the place

2494
01:19:28,427 --> 01:19:31,463
quite honestly in the one we

2495
01:19:31,463 --> 01:19:32,130
are immediately above mason

2496
01:19:32,130 --> 01:19:34,900
we're right there with them in

2497
01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:35,533
terms of the lot size and

2498
01:19:35,533 --> 01:19:38,533
pretty close into the mansion.

2499
01:19:39,370 --> 01:19:42,370
We actually average about 57ft

2500
01:19:44,510 --> 01:19:47,479
wide and so the when you look

2501
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:48,180
at other developments there

2502
01:19:48,180 --> 01:19:50,382
again there's not a there's not

2503
01:19:50,382 --> 01:19:53,652
a pattern that you could say

2504
01:19:53,652 --> 01:19:56,520
okay, we're breaking the

2505
01:19:56,621 --> 01:19:57,322
pattern because so so if you

2506
01:19:57,322 --> 01:20:00,922
can hold on to that because

2507
01:20:01,394 --> 01:20:02,228
staff if in your recommendation

2508
01:20:02,228 --> 01:20:05,828
you mentioned that there is a

2509
01:20:06,932 --> 01:20:09,932
noticeable mismatch in lot size

2510
01:20:12,538 --> 01:20:13,171
and scale within this area I

2511
01:20:13,171 --> 01:20:16,171
guess because of the lower

2512
01:20:19,112 --> 01:20:19,712
density development as opposed

2513
01:20:19,712 --> 01:20:20,346
to what they are proposing

2514
01:20:20,346 --> 01:20:21,781
which is a hardened city is

2515
01:20:21,781 --> 01:20:24,350
that what you're referring to?

2516
01:20:24,350 --> 01:20:25,117
Not necessarily with density is

2517
01:20:25,117 --> 01:20:28,530
just when we consider the

2518
01:20:28,530 --> 01:20:30,689
proposal on a whole is slightly

2519
01:20:30,689 --> 01:20:33,325
out of step with what we

2520
01:20:33,325 --> 01:20:33,759
consider to be the law pattern

2521
01:20:33,759 --> 01:20:34,326
in the area.

2522
01:20:34,326 --> 01:20:36,896
They're not that far off.

2523
01:20:36,896 --> 01:20:38,965
It's really not that far off.

2524
01:20:38,965 --> 01:20:41,300
I think we have a way forward

2525
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:44,300
certainly but when you consider

2526
01:20:44,737 --> 01:20:47,390
the holistic perspective of in

2527
01:20:47,390 --> 01:20:47,640
one d or any in one district

2528
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,442
with your setbacks, your lot

2529
01:20:49,442 --> 01:20:50,900
your and your lot with all of

2530
01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:52,900
those dimensional standards

2531
01:20:52,412 --> 01:20:55,282
combining to create a look and

2532
01:20:55,282 --> 01:20:57,717
feel it's more than just one

2533
01:20:57,717 --> 01:20:58,318
number and so that's what we

2534
01:20:58,318 --> 01:21:00,687
were looking at when we are

2535
01:21:00,687 --> 01:21:00,954
comparing the lot pattern in

2536
01:21:00,954 --> 01:21:02,954
the area.

2537
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:06,590
>> but it it doesn't that far

2538
01:21:06,590 --> 01:21:09,496
off they are most similar to

2539
01:21:09,496 --> 01:21:10,297
the compact development that is

2540
01:21:10,297 --> 01:21:12,566
to their east on mary butler

2541
01:21:12,566 --> 01:21:14,968
way a little smaller than those

2542
01:21:14,968 --> 01:21:17,170
lots and they would have

2543
01:21:17,170 --> 01:21:19,272
smaller setbacks than those

2544
01:21:19,272 --> 01:21:21,774
lots certainly under in one d

2545
01:21:21,774 --> 01:21:24,744
but it would be closer to those

2546
01:21:24,744 --> 01:21:27,810
lots than the other ones in the

2547
01:21:27,810 --> 01:21:27,848
area which are larger.

2548
01:21:27,848 --> 01:21:30,284
So it's good to hear that we

2549
01:21:30,284 --> 01:21:30,484
are not too far apart here.

2550
01:21:30,484 --> 01:21:30,684
Right?

2551
01:21:30,684 --> 01:21:32,684
right.

2552
01:21:32,953 --> 01:21:35,953
Oh, what stands out here

2553
01:21:38,191 --> 01:21:40,594
because this this site is not

2554
01:21:40,594 --> 01:21:41,161
located on a corner lot so if

2555
01:21:41,161 --> 01:21:43,797
there is a mismatch it

2556
01:21:43,797 --> 01:21:46,367
immediately stands out as I

2557
01:21:46,367 --> 01:21:48,803
hope that you will continue to

2558
01:21:48,803 --> 01:21:51,605
work with our staff to figure

2559
01:21:51,605 --> 01:21:54,275
out how we can align in terms

2560
01:21:54,275 --> 01:21:57,875
of it doesn't stand out from

2561
01:21:58,345 --> 01:22:00,345
the neighboring properties

2562
01:22:01,314 --> 01:22:03,517
because there needs to be some

2563
01:22:03,517 --> 01:22:03,985
transition between neighboring

2564
01:22:03,985 --> 01:22:05,985
properties in yours.

2565
01:22:06,721 --> 01:22:07,121
Well that's all I have.

2566
01:22:07,121 --> 01:22:09,121
>> thank you.

2567
01:22:09,123 --> 01:22:09,456
Thank you, MS. Johnson.

2568
01:22:09,456 --> 01:22:11,456
Thank you.

2569
01:22:12,393 --> 01:22:14,728
Still seem pretty far apart to

2570
01:22:14,728 --> 01:22:15,295
me but I'll tell you where I

2571
01:22:15,295 --> 01:22:17,695
think these would fit

2572
01:22:18,866 --> 01:22:21,866
wonderfully is in district four

2573
01:22:22,303 --> 01:22:25,206
well to have the research park

2574
01:22:25,206 --> 01:22:25,740
we've got tiaa vanguard banks,

2575
01:22:25,740 --> 01:22:28,740
we've got the blue line.

2576
01:22:29,443 --> 01:22:29,877
It's a great area so that's a

2577
01:22:29,877 --> 01:22:31,877
$2 million apiece.

2578
01:22:32,713 --> 01:22:33,481
They don't you know I mean

2579
01:22:33,481 --> 01:22:35,983
we've have the talk so anyway

2580
01:22:35,983 --> 01:22:38,320
yeah I think they're what I

2581
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,455
wanted to know is and I think

2582
01:22:40,455 --> 01:22:42,855
steph answered the question

2583
01:22:42,924 --> 01:22:43,658
it's interesting this is like

2584
01:22:43,658 --> 01:22:45,994
the third or fourth petition

2585
01:22:45,994 --> 01:22:46,594
tonight the staff does not

2586
01:22:46,594 --> 01:22:48,994
recommending so I appreciate

2587
01:22:49,831 --> 01:22:52,990
the diligence right in looking

2588
01:22:52,990 --> 01:22:54,736
at the petitions but is there

2589
01:22:54,736 --> 01:22:57,136
something specific that they

2590
01:22:57,739 --> 01:22:59,808
would need to do do you think

2591
01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:00,609
in order for staff to recommend

2592
01:23:00,609 --> 01:23:03,378
we don't have a specific

2593
01:23:03,378 --> 01:23:06,378
preschool option in mind in

2594
01:23:06,548 --> 01:23:07,248
terms of a magic number but

2595
01:23:07,248 --> 01:23:09,417
we're willing to work with them

2596
01:23:09,417 --> 01:23:12,417
because we haven't we haven't

2597
01:23:12,521 --> 01:23:14,423
looked at or been able to

2598
01:23:14,423 --> 01:23:14,957
analyze a formal site plan so

2599
01:23:14,957 --> 01:23:17,357
if they're working with

2600
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,529
specific site constraints as to

2601
01:23:20,529 --> 01:23:22,929
that are dictating certain

2602
01:23:23,331 --> 01:23:24,650
standards for them and making

2603
01:23:24,650 --> 01:23:26,301
some of those smaller than what

2604
01:23:26,301 --> 01:23:29,370
we would prefer, then we're not

2605
01:23:29,370 --> 01:23:29,738
sure where to go from there.

2606
01:23:29,738 --> 01:23:32,241
So if we could have more

2607
01:23:32,241 --> 01:23:34,576
conversations on that and

2608
01:23:34,576 --> 01:23:35,210
understand what needs more

2609
01:23:35,210 --> 01:23:37,713
flexibility in terms of a

2610
01:23:37,713 --> 01:23:38,347
smaller standard of standard

2611
01:23:38,347 --> 01:23:40,882
and where they could create

2612
01:23:40,882 --> 01:23:43,282
maybe a larger dimensional

2613
01:23:43,652 --> 01:23:44,219
standard so we don't have a

2614
01:23:44,219 --> 01:23:46,154
specific specific specific

2615
01:23:46,154 --> 01:23:48,891
prescription in mind excuse me

2616
01:23:48,891 --> 01:23:49,558
but we would just like the look

2617
01:23:49,558 --> 01:23:51,994
and feel to be more in line

2618
01:23:51,994 --> 01:23:52,595
with what we believe to be

2619
01:23:52,595 --> 01:23:54,663
established in terms of the

2620
01:23:54,663 --> 01:23:55,297
overall holistic neighborhood

2621
01:23:55,297 --> 01:23:57,697
one dimensional standards when

2622
01:23:57,733 --> 01:23:57,933
you look at with area setbacks

2623
01:23:57,933 --> 01:23:59,933
etc..

2624
01:24:00,769 --> 01:24:01,360
Thank you.

2625
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:01,236
>> thanks.

2626
01:24:01,236 --> 01:24:03,236
Okay.

2627
01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:04,273
Thank you.

2628
01:24:04,273 --> 01:24:04,907
And certainly district one is

2629
01:24:04,907 --> 01:24:06,142
open to some lovely homes as

2630
01:24:06,142 --> 01:24:08,142
well.

2631
01:24:09,178 --> 01:24:09,545
Is there a motion to close

2632
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:10,146
public hearings?

2633
01:24:10,146 --> 01:24:12,581
So move second all in favor

2634
01:24:12,581 --> 01:24:13,150
raise hands any opposed that

2635
01:24:13,150 --> 01:24:15,500
see that in this.

2636
01:24:15,500 --> 01:24:17,500
Thank you both.

2637
01:24:17,953 --> 01:24:21,553
We will advance to item number

2638
01:24:22,158 --> 01:24:24,158
22 petition number 2026 025 by

2639
01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:27,330
olympia and right homes it's

2640
01:24:27,330 --> 01:24:29,330
approximately 3.8 acres located

2641
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,350
south of the almond road west

2642
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:35,838
of hampton place and east of

2643
01:24:35,838 --> 01:24:38,507
mineral ridge way located and

2644
01:24:38,507 --> 01:24:40,507
councilmember johnson's

2645
01:24:41,144 --> 01:24:43,980
district the site is currently

2646
01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:44,748
zoned institutional condition

2647
01:24:44,748 --> 01:24:47,350
four and proposed zoning is

2648
01:24:47,350 --> 01:24:49,986
neighborhood one e staff once

2649
01:24:49,986 --> 01:24:52,386
again does not recommend

2650
01:24:52,555 --> 01:24:53,255
approval of this petition in

2651
01:24:53,255 --> 01:24:55,858
its current form and there are

2652
01:24:55,858 --> 01:24:58,195
speakers at signed up to speak

2653
01:24:58,195 --> 01:25:00,297
against this petition so the

2654
01:25:00,297 --> 01:25:02,466
petitioner will have ten

2655
01:25:02,466 --> 01:25:03,100
minutes after staffs

2656
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:05,500
presentation and then MR.

2657
01:25:05,869 --> 01:25:07,537
Sharkey you will have ten

2658
01:25:07,537 --> 01:25:08,137
minutes and there will be a two

2659
01:25:08,137 --> 01:25:08,304
minute rebuttal available for

2660
01:25:08,304 --> 01:25:10,304
you.

2661
01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:11,107
MR. Brown thank you.

2662
01:25:11,107 --> 01:25:13,107
>> thank you.

2663
01:25:13,843 --> 01:25:15,913
This site is little under four

2664
01:25:15,913 --> 01:25:16,613
acres along the south side of

2665
01:25:16,613 --> 01:25:19,613
drummond road west of hampton

2666
01:25:19,917 --> 01:25:22,719
place and east of mineral ridge

2667
01:25:22,719 --> 01:25:23,320
way in an area where we have

2668
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,320
predominantly single family

2669
01:25:25,689 --> 01:25:26,389
residential development here

2670
01:25:26,389 --> 01:25:29,526
with the more mix of uses

2671
01:25:29,526 --> 01:25:31,562
occurring east of the site

2672
01:25:31,562 --> 01:25:32,196
along benfield road currently

2673
01:25:32,196 --> 01:25:34,196
zoned institutional conditional

2674
01:25:34,365 --> 01:25:36,934
an old plan for every sonic

2675
01:25:36,934 --> 01:25:37,468
lodge requesting to go to the

2676
01:25:37,468 --> 01:25:37,735
neighborhood one e zoning

2677
01:25:37,735 --> 01:25:39,735
district.

2678
01:25:39,904 --> 01:25:40,671
This is the conventional

2679
01:25:40,671 --> 01:25:43,640
request so there's no site plan

2680
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,400
or associated conditional notes

2681
01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:46,810
the request is considered in

2682
01:25:46,810 --> 01:25:47,144
alignment with the

2683
01:25:47,144 --> 01:25:49,144
neighborhood.

2684
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,681
One place type called for on

2685
01:25:50,681 --> 01:25:53,500
the site five the 2040 calls

2686
01:25:53,500 --> 01:25:56,870
map it is within the north,

2687
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:57,488
middle and outer community area

2688
01:25:57,488 --> 01:25:58,550
plan again it's in alignment

2689
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:59,757
with that neighborhood one

2690
01:25:59,757 --> 01:26:00,457
place type recommendation but

2691
01:26:00,457 --> 01:26:02,857
it's not directly facilitating

2692
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,463
any priority goals for the area

2693
01:26:06,463 --> 01:26:09,267
plan and it is the conventional

2694
01:26:09,267 --> 01:26:09,834
request and as noted at the top

2695
01:26:09,834 --> 01:26:10,468
staff does that recommend

2696
01:26:10,468 --> 01:26:13,468
approval this petition in its

2697
01:26:14,572 --> 01:26:15,306
current form?

2698
01:26:15,306 --> 01:26:17,642
But we had a different side so

2699
01:26:17,642 --> 01:26:18,409
I apologize.

2700
01:26:18,409 --> 01:26:20,770
I was going to walk you through

2701
01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:22,413
the place type five criteria

2702
01:26:22,413 --> 01:26:23,800
here which is also at play

2703
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,684
similar to the other petitions

2704
01:26:25,684 --> 01:26:26,284
that we've talked to and talked

2705
01:26:26,284 --> 01:26:29,187
about in this meeting here.

2706
01:26:29,187 --> 01:26:30,922
So please I five again we're

2707
01:26:30,922 --> 01:26:31,623
considering that when looking

2708
01:26:31,623 --> 01:26:34,125
at requests for a higher

2709
01:26:34,125 --> 01:26:34,726
intensity neighborhood one

2710
01:26:34,726 --> 01:26:36,894
zoning district this one in

2711
01:26:36,894 --> 01:26:37,628
particular is the neighborhood

2712
01:26:37,628 --> 01:26:39,931
one e zoning district though

2713
01:26:39,931 --> 01:26:40,431
it's not currently a

2714
01:26:40,431 --> 01:26:41,650
neighborhood one zoning

2715
01:26:41,650 --> 01:26:43,201
district itself we would still

2716
01:26:43,201 --> 01:26:43,835
wanted to consider it because

2717
01:26:43,835 --> 01:26:46,471
it sits within a residential

2718
01:26:46,471 --> 01:26:49,407
area with an established lot

2719
01:26:49,407 --> 01:26:51,910
pattern and there is in one b

2720
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:52,677
zoning that it abuts and our

2721
01:26:52,677 --> 01:26:55,947
six conditional zoning a lot of

2722
01:26:55,947 --> 01:26:58,316
those lots are developed out to

2723
01:26:58,316 --> 01:27:01,316
lot with ranging from maybe

2724
01:27:02,354 --> 01:27:04,156
high 40s to 70ft in lot with an

2725
01:27:04,156 --> 01:27:06,556
areas around 11,000 maybe a

2726
01:27:07,759 --> 01:27:08,260
little bit less than the n1 e

2727
01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:10,260
district.

2728
01:27:10,195 --> 01:27:10,896
So in comparison would allow

2729
01:27:10,896 --> 01:27:13,832
for a lot standards that are

2730
01:27:13,832 --> 01:27:16,736
pretty different than what we

2731
01:27:16,736 --> 01:27:17,603
have existing in that area.

2732
01:27:17,603 --> 01:27:18,604
So in one e would have a

2733
01:27:18,604 --> 01:27:21,340
minimum lot width of 30ft and a

2734
01:27:21,340 --> 01:27:24,176
minimum floor area of 3000ft

2735
01:27:24,176 --> 01:27:24,710
and you have a front setback of

2736
01:27:24,710 --> 01:27:26,812
ten feet let me pretty

2737
01:27:26,812 --> 01:27:29,648
different than what we see

2738
01:27:29,648 --> 01:27:30,315
established along that corridor

2739
01:27:30,315 --> 01:27:32,451
along the south side of diamond

2740
01:27:32,451 --> 01:27:33,251
road there.

2741
01:27:33,251 --> 01:27:35,254
So that's what's really driving

2742
01:27:35,254 --> 01:27:37,654
staff's recommendation and why

2743
01:27:37,690 --> 01:27:38,324
we believe it's inconsistent

2744
01:27:38,324 --> 01:27:40,326
with the goals and policies of

2745
01:27:40,326 --> 01:27:40,993
the north middle and our

2746
01:27:40,993 --> 01:27:43,362
community area plan is when we

2747
01:27:43,362 --> 01:27:46,432
take a look at the place type

2748
01:27:46,432 --> 01:27:47,660
five criteria unlike the last

2749
01:27:47,660 --> 01:27:48,867
petition where we were talking

2750
01:27:48,867 --> 01:27:49,568
about I think it's it's close

2751
01:27:49,568 --> 01:27:49,835
in some regards we're not that

2752
01:27:49,835 --> 01:27:51,835
far off.

2753
01:27:52,138 --> 01:27:52,505
I think the neighborhood one is

2754
01:27:52,505 --> 01:27:54,505
zoning district.

2755
01:27:55,708 --> 01:27:58,444
It's just is too far beyond

2756
01:27:58,444 --> 01:27:59,780
what we find to be appropriate

2757
01:27:59,780 --> 01:28:01,514
for the site considering the

2758
01:28:01,514 --> 01:28:03,514
established lot pattern.

2759
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:05,617
We don't have any conditions as

2760
01:28:05,617 --> 01:28:07,753
to what's occurring on the site

2761
01:28:07,753 --> 01:28:08,387
or if they would like to

2762
01:28:08,387 --> 01:28:10,787
condition out for different

2763
01:28:11,257 --> 01:28:13,459
dimensions that are greater

2764
01:28:13,459 --> 01:28:14,260
than the minimums allowed in

2765
01:28:14,260 --> 01:28:16,896
one e we haven't seen seen or

2766
01:28:16,896 --> 01:28:19,465
heard of those so far so that's

2767
01:28:19,465 --> 01:28:19,799
where staff recommendation is

2768
01:28:19,799 --> 01:28:20,433
stemming from.

2769
01:28:20,433 --> 01:28:22,601
Happy to answer any questions

2770
01:28:22,601 --> 01:28:24,601
following comments.

2771
01:28:24,937 --> 01:28:25,537
>> okay.

2772
01:28:25,537 --> 01:28:27,937
Thank you MR. Brown.

2773
01:28:28,141 --> 01:28:30,343
Great your pro tem council

2774
01:28:30,343 --> 01:28:30,977
members then you committee

2775
01:28:30,977 --> 01:28:31,544
members colin brown on behalf

2776
01:28:31,544 --> 01:28:34,314
of olympian right kind of

2777
01:28:34,314 --> 01:28:36,449
continuing the theme of tonight

2778
01:28:36,449 --> 01:28:37,830
where we got some

2779
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:39,483
inconsistencies or non support

2780
01:28:39,752 --> 01:28:40,353
from staff I will go and say is

2781
01:28:40,353 --> 01:28:42,355
holly mentioned and this is

2782
01:28:42,355 --> 01:28:44,755
followed as a conventional

2783
01:28:45,250 --> 01:28:47,425
petition I saw councilmember

2784
01:28:48,610 --> 01:28:48,695
johnson shaking her head and

2785
01:28:48,695 --> 01:28:49,960
I'll go ahead and let the cat

2786
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:50,564
out of the bag.

2787
01:28:50,564 --> 01:28:51,198
We're going to convert this to

2788
01:28:51,198 --> 01:28:54,670
a conditional petition so you

2789
01:28:54,670 --> 01:28:54,701
MAY say well, this is a little

2790
01:28:54,701 --> 01:28:56,569
premature to have the hearing

2791
01:28:56,569 --> 01:28:57,270
tonight.

2792
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:57,904
But the reason we're proceeding

2793
01:28:57,904 --> 01:28:59,406
with this I think you're going

2794
01:28:59,406 --> 01:28:59,973
to hear from some folks in the

2795
01:28:59,973 --> 01:29:01,542
community we've had a good

2796
01:29:01,542 --> 01:29:01,842
amount of community engagement

2797
01:29:01,842 --> 01:29:03,842
on the site.

2798
01:29:04,645 --> 01:29:05,312
This is a site where everyone

2799
01:29:05,312 --> 01:29:05,579
we've talked to says hey, you

2800
01:29:05,579 --> 01:29:07,448
know what?

2801
01:29:07,448 --> 01:29:07,748
we know something is going to

2802
01:29:07,748 --> 01:29:08,482
happen here.

2803
01:29:08,482 --> 01:29:10,417
The main feedback that we've

2804
01:29:10,417 --> 01:29:13,153
gotten from the community is a

2805
01:29:13,153 --> 01:29:15,889
request to condition this two

2806
01:29:15,889 --> 01:29:16,523
single family homes only which

2807
01:29:16,523 --> 01:29:18,391
the the petitioner is willing

2808
01:29:18,391 --> 01:29:19,600
to do.

2809
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,996
The other challenge that the

2810
01:29:21,996 --> 01:29:22,563
main challenge I think from

2811
01:29:22,563 --> 01:29:23,197
some some of the neighbors

2812
01:29:23,197 --> 01:29:24,899
we've heard from and that you

2813
01:29:24,899 --> 01:29:25,432
MAY hear from tonight you know

2814
01:29:25,432 --> 01:29:28,402
is often the stub street

2815
01:29:28,402 --> 01:29:30,504
requirement that we run into

2816
01:29:30,504 --> 01:29:31,400
and so we do have a stub street

2817
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:31,338
here to an existing

2818
01:29:31,338 --> 01:29:33,338
neighborhood.

2819
01:29:33,707 --> 01:29:34,374
We've got a tough site you can

2820
01:29:34,374 --> 01:29:34,941
see it's a triangle so there's

2821
01:29:34,941 --> 01:29:36,844
not a lot there's a lot of

2822
01:29:36,844 --> 01:29:37,612
challenges for us already.

2823
01:29:37,612 --> 01:29:39,313
So one of the real reasons I'm

2824
01:29:39,313 --> 01:29:40,140
proceeding with the hearing

2825
01:29:40,140 --> 01:29:40,548
tonight is to to let you have a

2826
01:29:40,548 --> 01:29:42,516
little feedback from the

2827
01:29:42,516 --> 01:29:43,840
neighborhood.

2828
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:43,584
This would be something and

2829
01:29:43,584 --> 01:29:45,984
we're working with the

2830
01:29:45,986 --> 01:29:46,620
neighborhood and expect to have

2831
01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:48,422
some follow up meetings with

2832
01:29:48,422 --> 01:29:48,656
this hoa here to talk about the

2833
01:29:48,656 --> 01:29:48,856
options.

2834
01:29:48,856 --> 01:29:50,856
Right.

2835
01:29:51,458 --> 01:29:51,825
We know that the ordinance does

2836
01:29:51,825 --> 01:29:53,825
encourage this.

2837
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:54,362
The uda likes this

2838
01:29:54,362 --> 01:29:56,362
connectivity.

2839
01:29:56,664 --> 01:29:57,198
It is very difficult for us to

2840
01:29:57,198 --> 01:30:00,340
find a solution for that.

2841
01:30:00,340 --> 01:30:02,603
So you know all that to say we

2842
01:30:02,603 --> 01:30:03,237
we will convert this to a

2843
01:30:03,237 --> 01:30:05,406
conditional rezoning we will

2844
01:30:05,406 --> 01:30:08,750
commit to single family only

2845
01:30:08,750 --> 01:30:08,709
and we will work with the

2846
01:30:08,709 --> 01:30:11,109
community on this connection.

2847
01:30:11,913 --> 01:30:12,480
Now we have to have again I did

2848
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:14,649
want you to hear from the

2849
01:30:14,649 --> 01:30:15,183
community about their concerns

2850
01:30:15,183 --> 01:30:17,685
on this parcel to see if

2851
01:30:17,685 --> 01:30:18,386
there's some traction, if it's

2852
01:30:18,386 --> 01:30:20,488
something the city's open to us

2853
01:30:20,488 --> 01:30:21,356
finding an alternative.

2854
01:30:21,356 --> 01:30:23,524
If not, then we will we can

2855
01:30:23,524 --> 01:30:23,725
figure out a way to make this

2856
01:30:23,725 --> 01:30:25,426
work.

2857
01:30:25,426 --> 01:30:26,930
We did have some neighbors

2858
01:30:26,930 --> 01:30:28,629
attend the meeting dyarman road

2859
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:29,264
as you know, prosperity church

2860
01:30:29,264 --> 01:30:31,600
is right down the street there

2861
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,267
concerned with traffic impact.

2862
01:30:32,267 --> 01:30:33,935
We had questions that you know

2863
01:30:33,935 --> 01:30:34,669
could you guys install a median

2864
01:30:34,669 --> 01:30:37,205
we'd be open to all of those

2865
01:30:37,205 --> 01:30:37,839
things right so I think that's

2866
01:30:37,839 --> 01:30:40,742
a conversation we're going to

2867
01:30:40,742 --> 01:30:41,209
be willing to continue to have

2868
01:30:41,209 --> 01:30:43,144
with the neighborhood.

2869
01:30:43,144 --> 01:30:43,845
We did have a speaker sign up I

2870
01:30:43,845 --> 01:30:46,470
think she signed up in office

2871
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:46,815
and support.

2872
01:30:46,815 --> 01:30:49,151
>> I'm not sure she's actually

2873
01:30:49,151 --> 01:30:49,718
supportive but I did want to

2874
01:30:49,718 --> 01:30:49,918
give her an opportunity to

2875
01:30:49,918 --> 01:30:51,787
speak.

2876
01:30:51,787 --> 01:30:52,354
She I think represent is coming

2877
01:30:52,354 --> 01:30:54,754
from this neighborhood here

2878
01:30:54,823 --> 01:30:55,390
who've reached out and said

2879
01:30:55,390 --> 01:30:58,590
look, we know something is

2880
01:30:58,590 --> 01:30:58,727
going to happen on the site.

2881
01:30:58,727 --> 01:30:59,361
You know our request or could

2882
01:30:59,361 --> 01:31:00,428
you do single family homes?

2883
01:31:00,428 --> 01:31:01,620
We don't want apartments.

2884
01:31:01,620 --> 01:31:03,462
We don't want townhomes.

2885
01:31:03,531 --> 01:31:03,899
You know, single family we

2886
01:31:03,899 --> 01:31:04,567
could consider.

2887
01:31:04,567 --> 01:31:06,502
But their main concern is this

2888
01:31:06,502 --> 01:31:08,502
connection.

2889
01:31:09,171 --> 01:31:09,505
And so I'm happy to devote some

2890
01:31:09,505 --> 01:31:11,505
time to her.

2891
01:31:12,508 --> 01:31:13,750
We probably would and brought

2892
01:31:13,750 --> 01:31:14,676
this but with kind of the

2893
01:31:14,676 --> 01:31:15,310
summer break we at least wanted

2894
01:31:15,310 --> 01:31:17,613
to start this conversation let

2895
01:31:17,613 --> 01:31:18,146
you all hear some feedback for

2896
01:31:18,146 --> 01:31:20,546
the community about the

2897
01:31:20,816 --> 01:31:21,517
connectivity issue and see if

2898
01:31:21,517 --> 01:31:23,619
we can find a way forward that

2899
01:31:23,619 --> 01:31:25,655
way if we can then we will

2900
01:31:25,655 --> 01:31:26,255
amend we'll make the

2901
01:31:26,255 --> 01:31:28,457
commitments to single family

2902
01:31:28,457 --> 01:31:29,240
I'm not sure we'll we'll

2903
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:29,658
probably still be having a

2904
01:31:29,658 --> 01:31:31,860
little bit of the conversation

2905
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:34,262
about well what is the right

2906
01:31:34,262 --> 01:31:36,431
size of lots and hallways right

2907
01:31:36,431 --> 01:31:37,320
you've got some giant lots here

2908
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:37,299
you've got some medium sized

2909
01:31:37,299 --> 01:31:39,299
lots here.

2910
01:31:39,936 --> 01:31:40,603
You've got some smaller lots

2911
01:31:40,603 --> 01:31:43,239
here as you all know and you've

2912
01:31:43,239 --> 01:31:44,907
heard from some in any team and

2913
01:31:44,907 --> 01:31:45,508
they're doing $2 million houses

2914
01:31:45,508 --> 01:31:47,877
on the small side you can get

2915
01:31:47,877 --> 01:31:50,646
you know it is about the value

2916
01:31:50,646 --> 01:31:51,313
of land and you know if we're

2917
01:31:51,313 --> 01:31:53,215
committing not to do apartments

2918
01:31:53,215 --> 01:31:53,682
and not to do townhomes we do

2919
01:31:53,682 --> 01:31:55,818
need frankly as much

2920
01:31:55,818 --> 01:31:56,586
flexibility as we can get on

2921
01:31:56,586 --> 01:31:59,322
the lot sizes we're we're all

2922
01:31:59,322 --> 01:31:59,923
talking we'll talk with our

2923
01:31:59,923 --> 01:32:01,925
design team about whether we

2924
01:32:01,925 --> 01:32:04,260
can come we're going to be in

2925
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:05,895
one place type but whether we

2926
01:32:05,895 --> 01:32:06,529
can get to an end one c or d

2927
01:32:06,529 --> 01:32:09,310
probably that's going to come

2928
01:32:09,310 --> 01:32:09,298
down to what the fate of the

2929
01:32:09,298 --> 01:32:09,966
street is.

2930
01:32:09,966 --> 01:32:11,801
So if we have to bring the

2931
01:32:11,801 --> 01:32:12,401
street through we might need

2932
01:32:12,401 --> 01:32:14,504
more flexibility if there's a

2933
01:32:14,504 --> 01:32:16,906
way for us to, you know, not

2934
01:32:16,906 --> 01:32:17,441
make that connection that might

2935
01:32:17,441 --> 01:32:17,741
give us a little more

2936
01:32:17,741 --> 01:32:19,741
flexibility.

2937
01:32:20,577 --> 01:32:23,246
So that's where we are.

2938
01:32:23,246 --> 01:32:23,913
Mayor pro tem like I said,

2939
01:32:23,913 --> 01:32:24,247
there was a speaker that signed

2940
01:32:24,247 --> 01:32:26,182
up in favor.

2941
01:32:26,182 --> 01:32:26,849
I'm not sure if she's in favor

2942
01:32:26,849 --> 01:32:27,500
but I'll give her some of my

2943
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:28,818
time.

2944
01:32:28,818 --> 01:32:32,418
>> so is this a talia nazario

2945
01:32:32,923 --> 01:32:34,491
that you're speaking of that is

2946
01:32:34,491 --> 01:32:35,250
that you see are you wanting to

2947
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:35,292
speak in favor of this

2948
01:32:35,292 --> 01:32:37,292
petition?

2949
01:32:37,761 --> 01:32:41,361
Because if you're not in favor

2950
01:32:42,532 --> 01:32:43,233
you can't speak now against but

2951
01:32:43,233 --> 01:32:43,866
she's welcome to so my time I

2952
01:32:43,866 --> 01:32:46,360
think I know what she's going

2953
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,471
to say so we have you on the

2954
01:32:48,471 --> 01:32:48,605
paper as being for the petition

2955
01:32:48,605 --> 01:32:48,806
.

2956
01:32:48,806 --> 01:32:50,806
Okay.

2957
01:32:52,910 --> 01:32:53,243
I'm just learning about the

2958
01:32:53,243 --> 01:32:53,477
n1eab okay.

2959
01:32:53,477 --> 01:32:55,477
>> okay.

2960
01:32:56,213 --> 01:32:56,647
As long as she has time to

2961
01:32:56,647 --> 01:32:58,647
speak, we're happy.

2962
01:32:59,650 --> 01:32:59,916
You want to see she's walking

2963
01:32:59,916 --> 01:33:00,550
our time.

2964
01:33:00,550 --> 01:33:00,751
All right, we're going to go.

2965
01:33:00,751 --> 01:33:00,951
Sorry.

2966
01:33:00,951 --> 01:33:02,519
Okay.

2967
01:33:02,519 --> 01:33:04,955
Please come down, MR. Nazario

2968
01:33:04,955 --> 01:33:07,224
and it's kind of when you get

2969
01:33:07,224 --> 01:33:07,491
to the podium the balance of

2970
01:33:07,491 --> 01:33:09,491
your time.

2971
01:33:11,662 --> 01:33:12,329
MR. Brown is five minutes and

2972
01:33:12,329 --> 01:33:14,464
48 seconds to MR. Sharkey go.

2973
01:33:14,464 --> 01:33:17,464
>> you know he spoke against

2974
01:33:18,468 --> 01:33:20,637
this guy five and she's against

2975
01:33:20,637 --> 01:33:23,600
you know she signed up for our

2976
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,444
and she's all here twice for oh

2977
01:33:26,444 --> 01:33:27,144
well thank you.

2978
01:33:27,144 --> 01:33:28,946
My name is selena zaria and I

2979
01:33:28,946 --> 01:33:31,582
see was mentioning I live on

2980
01:33:31,582 --> 01:33:33,918
ridgeline and my property is

2981
01:33:33,918 --> 01:33:36,887
almost on that lot the

2982
01:33:36,887 --> 01:33:37,488
neighbors around we gathered

2983
01:33:37,488 --> 01:33:39,390
not everybody could attend a

2984
01:33:39,390 --> 01:33:42,694
meeting that was held over zoom

2985
01:33:42,694 --> 01:33:45,663
but we are all concerned about

2986
01:33:45,663 --> 01:33:48,630
extending ridgeline towards the

2987
01:33:48,299 --> 01:33:50,568
almond as cities there's a lot

2988
01:33:50,568 --> 01:33:53,304
of traffic on that road we know

2989
01:33:53,304 --> 01:33:55,873
we already knew there were

2990
01:33:55,873 --> 01:33:56,574
plans to add sidewalks and

2991
01:33:56,574 --> 01:33:59,477
there's a lot of tree cutting

2992
01:33:59,477 --> 01:34:01,780
going on right now and then we

2993
01:34:01,780 --> 01:34:02,380
are learning oh they're going

2994
01:34:02,380 --> 01:34:04,783
to put like a something right

2995
01:34:04,783 --> 01:34:05,483
in the middle of the road

2996
01:34:05,483 --> 01:34:07,752
that's going to actually make

2997
01:34:07,752 --> 01:34:10,752
traffic worse for the people

2998
01:34:10,822 --> 01:34:11,222
that need to go in and out of

2999
01:34:11,222 --> 01:34:13,222
the subdivisions.

3000
01:34:13,391 --> 01:34:13,891
We also just learned that

3001
01:34:13,891 --> 01:34:16,291
there's a petition for

3002
01:34:16,361 --> 01:34:18,563
townhomes on a corner lot down

3003
01:34:18,563 --> 01:34:19,264
department for townhomes.

3004
01:34:19,264 --> 01:34:21,600
So we're really concerned about

3005
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,600
what all of this sudden

3006
01:34:24,703 --> 01:34:26,703
development could mean.

3007
01:34:27,238 --> 01:34:29,807
And he was saying we know that

3008
01:34:29,807 --> 01:34:31,910
you know something was going to

3009
01:34:31,910 --> 01:34:32,677
happen on that parcel of land

3010
01:34:32,677 --> 01:34:35,514
when we the neighbors gather we

3011
01:34:35,514 --> 01:34:39,114
weren't sure like how big are

3012
01:34:39,885 --> 01:34:40,452
the lots we didn't know what

3013
01:34:40,452 --> 01:34:43,155
n1e whatever that means.

3014
01:34:43,155 --> 01:34:43,788
That's probably too small for

3015
01:34:43,788 --> 01:34:45,490
the for the area for the

3016
01:34:45,490 --> 01:34:46,358
neighborhoods.

3017
01:34:46,358 --> 01:34:49,260
I know the thing that we're

3018
01:34:49,260 --> 01:34:51,660
concerned is that our

3019
01:34:51,897 --> 01:34:54,297
neighborhood fought really hard

3020
01:34:55,734 --> 01:34:57,770
to restrict rental us and

3021
01:34:57,770 --> 01:35:00,105
airbnbs and that sort of thing

3022
01:35:00,105 --> 01:35:02,674
and there was a development 2

3023
01:35:02,674 --> 01:35:05,110
or 3 years ago that that popped

3024
01:35:05,110 --> 01:35:05,444
up near us that is just for

3025
01:35:05,444 --> 01:35:07,444
rental homes.

3026
01:35:08,180 --> 01:35:08,781
I think those things might

3027
01:35:08,781 --> 01:35:10,749
change the character of the

3028
01:35:10,749 --> 01:35:13,149
neighborhood that parcel of

3029
01:35:13,619 --> 01:35:14,186
land like we're almost next to

3030
01:35:14,186 --> 01:35:16,388
the highway and there are

3031
01:35:16,388 --> 01:35:18,390
fireflies on that lot and they

3032
01:35:18,390 --> 01:35:21,660
come out at this time of year

3033
01:35:21,660 --> 01:35:22,361
it's that area in north

3034
01:35:22,361 --> 01:35:25,230
charlotte it's like this little

3035
01:35:25,230 --> 01:35:27,433
pocket of residential or single

3036
01:35:27,433 --> 01:35:27,834
family homes and we do not want

3037
01:35:27,834 --> 01:35:29,834
that to change.

3038
01:35:30,737 --> 01:35:31,371
The neighbors across the street

3039
01:35:31,371 --> 01:35:33,673
are really worried that they

3040
01:35:33,673 --> 01:35:36,409
might be forced out especially

3041
01:35:36,409 --> 01:35:39,144
if rich lane is extended just

3042
01:35:39,144 --> 01:35:39,779
to fill that with apartments

3043
01:35:39,779 --> 01:35:42,614
and townhomes and more homes.

3044
01:35:42,614 --> 01:35:42,815
So we're really concerned about

3045
01:35:42,815 --> 01:35:44,815
that.

3046
01:35:45,418 --> 01:35:47,987
So we're not really you know,

3047
01:35:47,987 --> 01:35:48,688
the neighbors around me we're

3048
01:35:48,688 --> 01:35:51,390
not that opposed to having

3049
01:35:51,390 --> 01:35:53,493
something build there but we

3050
01:35:53,493 --> 01:35:54,930
don't want the street extended

3051
01:35:54,930 --> 01:35:56,493
that's going to increase

3052
01:35:57,697 --> 01:36:00,333
traffic and as cities already a

3053
01:36:00,333 --> 01:36:02,469
lot of people if you see the

3054
01:36:02,469 --> 01:36:03,236
map people use hampton place

3055
01:36:03,236 --> 01:36:06,390
they forget their stop signs

3056
01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:08,541
there and they just ran through

3057
01:36:08,541 --> 01:36:11,144
to avoid the street on diamond

3058
01:36:11,144 --> 01:36:11,744
ridge lane is opened traffic is

3059
01:36:11,744 --> 01:36:14,180
going to get horribly worse

3060
01:36:14,180 --> 01:36:14,814
across our neighborhood and

3061
01:36:14,814 --> 01:36:15,114
there are children playing on

3062
01:36:15,114 --> 01:36:17,114
the street.

3063
01:36:17,216 --> 01:36:19,820
It's just a quiet little

3064
01:36:19,820 --> 01:36:22,122
neighborhood and we don't want

3065
01:36:22,122 --> 01:36:24,391
that road extended and we don't

3066
01:36:24,391 --> 01:36:25,250
want too much you know,

3067
01:36:25,250 --> 01:36:27,425
residential density more than

3068
01:36:27,461 --> 01:36:29,963
it needs to be and we're not

3069
01:36:29,963 --> 01:36:30,530
opposed per say to you know, to

3070
01:36:30,530 --> 01:36:32,930
having something built there

3071
01:36:33,633 --> 01:36:36,370
more like okay, thank you MR.

3072
01:36:36,370 --> 01:36:39,106
Sharkey if you would like to

3073
01:36:39,106 --> 01:36:41,275
come down and you you're the

3074
01:36:41,275 --> 01:36:43,944
only one who signed up opposed

3075
01:36:43,944 --> 01:36:44,645
to this petition so you will

3076
01:36:44,645 --> 01:36:48,245
receive ten minutes I think to

3077
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:54,510
a roundabout well even though

3078
01:36:55,256 --> 01:36:57,291
that is yeah I know that last

3079
01:36:57,291 --> 01:37:00,891
we were used to the client

3080
01:37:02,129 --> 01:37:02,696
didn't know what kind I was.

3081
01:37:02,696 --> 01:37:04,696
Good evening counsel.

3082
01:37:05,432 --> 01:37:06,660
I'm sure many of you on the

3083
01:37:06,660 --> 01:37:07,835
council know who I am in my

3084
01:37:07,835 --> 01:37:10,670
other role but today I come

3085
01:37:10,670 --> 01:37:11,239
before you in my role as the

3086
01:37:11,239 --> 01:37:13,639
PRESIDENT Of hampton place

3087
01:37:13,875 --> 01:37:16,275
property owners association and

3088
01:37:16,444 --> 01:37:19,880
I stand here before you today

3089
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,983
to be against this rezoning and

3090
01:37:22,983 --> 01:37:24,785
as she has already shared with

3091
01:37:24,785 --> 01:37:25,519
you, there are a lot of things

3092
01:37:25,519 --> 01:37:28,255
going on associated with this

3093
01:37:28,255 --> 01:37:31,590
that makes us concerned about

3094
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:33,628
what's going to happen to our

3095
01:37:33,628 --> 01:37:34,395
subdivision as part of this she

3096
01:37:34,395 --> 01:37:36,430
she alluded to a couple of the

3097
01:37:36,430 --> 01:37:37,198
things.

3098
01:37:37,198 --> 01:37:39,133
First and foremost we know that

3099
01:37:39,133 --> 01:37:39,600
the dearman road improvement

3100
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,000
project is going on.

3101
01:37:42,303 --> 01:37:43,137
it's going to put a center

3102
01:37:43,137 --> 01:37:45,390
aisle in there as well as

3103
01:37:45,390 --> 01:37:47,390
sidewalks.

3104
01:37:47,676 --> 01:37:50,278
Dearman road turns into a

3105
01:37:50,278 --> 01:37:54,150
parking lot every day and if we

3106
01:37:54,150 --> 01:37:56,217
extend ridge line by adding

3107
01:37:56,217 --> 01:37:58,617
this additional properties in

3108
01:37:59,186 --> 01:37:59,387
that's going to make it even

3109
01:37:59,387 --> 01:38:00,210
worse.

3110
01:38:00,210 --> 01:38:00,588
So that's the first thing that

3111
01:38:00,588 --> 01:38:02,623
I want to bring to your

3112
01:38:02,623 --> 01:38:05,193
attention is we do not want to

3113
01:38:05,193 --> 01:38:07,193
extend ridge line.

3114
01:38:07,529 --> 01:38:08,229
Second thing is that you've

3115
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:10,899
already heard and it was good

3116
01:38:10,899 --> 01:38:13,935
to hear some of the comments if

3117
01:38:13,935 --> 01:38:14,369
we're going to do some

3118
01:38:14,369 --> 01:38:15,300
development there.

3119
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:15,203
It needs to be single family

3120
01:38:15,203 --> 01:38:17,710
homes.

3121
01:38:17,710 --> 01:38:19,974
It needs to be the same as what

3122
01:38:19,974 --> 01:38:22,378
is there now if you go just a

3123
01:38:22,378 --> 01:38:23,110
couple of blocks up the street

3124
01:38:23,110 --> 01:38:25,914
we've got townhouses going all

3125
01:38:25,914 --> 01:38:28,550
up all over our neighborhoods.

3126
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:31,520
So we need to make sure that we

3127
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,156
keep the what made that

3128
01:38:34,156 --> 01:38:34,789
particular area the place that

3129
01:38:34,789 --> 01:38:37,392
people want to live the same

3130
01:38:37,392 --> 01:38:40,196
for when these new houses get

3131
01:38:40,196 --> 01:38:40,764
built if we move forward with

3132
01:38:40,764 --> 01:38:42,831
this single housing I think

3133
01:38:42,831 --> 01:38:45,100
that still is a doable plan

3134
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:45,801
right there that we can do some

3135
01:38:45,801 --> 01:38:48,337
of the things you did hear

3136
01:38:48,337 --> 01:38:50,973
about is still concerns for

3137
01:38:50,973 --> 01:38:53,373
hampton place subdivision which

3138
01:38:53,842 --> 01:38:54,643
is that we should be I think

3139
01:38:54,643 --> 01:38:57,113
we've been approved for hampton

3140
01:38:57,113 --> 01:38:57,780
place drive to get speed bumps

3141
01:38:57,780 --> 01:38:59,982
in am I asked a city council

3142
01:38:59,982 --> 01:39:00,616
can we get them like in the

3143
01:39:00,616 --> 01:39:03,850
next couple of months because

3144
01:39:03,850 --> 01:39:05,485
it's getting really bad.

3145
01:39:05,654 --> 01:39:07,990
But the other thing that I will

3146
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:08,624
say is that if we if for

3147
01:39:08,624 --> 01:39:11,427
whatever reason this does get

3148
01:39:11,427 --> 01:39:13,863
approved by you guys we need

3149
01:39:13,863 --> 01:39:14,630
speed bumps to throughout

3150
01:39:14,630 --> 01:39:16,999
hampton place because it is a

3151
01:39:16,999 --> 01:39:17,767
speed zone.

3152
01:39:17,767 --> 01:39:20,203
It's like they just like you've

3153
01:39:20,203 --> 01:39:22,603
heard in the previous

3154
01:39:23,500 --> 01:39:23,706
respondent they've turned it

3155
01:39:23,706 --> 01:39:26,420
into a cut through so that they

3156
01:39:26,420 --> 01:39:28,100
could get to dearman road to

3157
01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:30,746
get to 485 and without those

3158
01:39:30,746 --> 01:39:33,830
speed bumps nobody's nobody is

3159
01:39:33,830 --> 01:39:33,817
stopping at the stop sign.

3160
01:39:33,817 --> 01:39:36,820
So we're having kids almost get

3161
01:39:36,820 --> 01:39:39,255
hit daily in our neighborhood.

3162
01:39:39,255 --> 01:39:41,991
So I petition to the city

3163
01:39:41,991 --> 01:39:42,625
council this evening here to

3164
01:39:42,625 --> 01:39:46,225
hear our appeal here to not

3165
01:39:47,597 --> 01:39:48,265
approve this as it stands if it

3166
01:39:48,265 --> 01:39:50,667
is going to get approved it has

3167
01:39:50,667 --> 01:39:53,690
to be single family only just

3168
01:39:53,690 --> 01:39:53,336
like what we have now with that

3169
01:39:53,336 --> 01:39:55,336
I yield.

3170
01:39:55,972 --> 01:39:56,339
>> okay.

3171
01:39:56,339 --> 01:39:58,339
Thank you.

3172
01:40:00,343 --> 01:40:03,120
Thank you, MR. Brown, you have

3173
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,515
two minutes to add some.

3174
01:40:05,515 --> 01:40:06,149
Thank you.

3175
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:08,552
You know the comments were

3176
01:40:08,552 --> 01:40:09,190
frankly what we expected.

3177
01:40:09,190 --> 01:40:09,686
I don't know.

3178
01:40:09,686 --> 01:40:10,200
I don't think we disagree with

3179
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:11,755
any of that.

3180
01:40:11,755 --> 01:40:14,558
I think we're we're prepared to

3181
01:40:14,558 --> 01:40:15,191
do to go with single family.

3182
01:40:15,191 --> 01:40:17,127
We've got to figure out

3183
01:40:17,127 --> 01:40:17,694
ridgeline I did want you to

3184
01:40:17,694 --> 01:40:19,963
hear you say this MAY be a

3185
01:40:19,963 --> 01:40:20,630
little premature but I did want

3186
01:40:20,630 --> 01:40:20,864
you to hear from the community

3187
01:40:20,864 --> 01:40:22,864
on that.

3188
01:40:22,999 --> 01:40:23,567
We will work with the staffs to

3189
01:40:23,567 --> 01:40:25,903
see if our options perhaps

3190
01:40:25,903 --> 01:40:26,537
there could be a pedestrian

3191
01:40:26,537 --> 01:40:27,171
connection to get folks through

3192
01:40:27,171 --> 01:40:29,573
so they can take advantage of

3193
01:40:29,573 --> 01:40:31,608
the sidewalks but not bring the

3194
01:40:31,608 --> 01:40:32,342
traffic through.

3195
01:40:32,342 --> 01:40:34,678
We'd also I think we'd be open

3196
01:40:34,678 --> 01:40:36,813
to the commitments on you know

3197
01:40:36,813 --> 01:40:37,614
like I said before sale housing

3198
01:40:37,614 --> 01:40:40,317
we MAY also be able to

3199
01:40:40,317 --> 01:40:43,317
participate in some funding of

3200
01:40:43,554 --> 01:40:44,188
of the speed bump so we've got

3201
01:40:44,188 --> 01:40:46,391
two months to work with the

3202
01:40:46,391 --> 01:40:46,990
folks we've heard from tonight.

3203
01:40:46,990 --> 01:40:49,126
We've got contact information

3204
01:40:49,126 --> 01:40:49,727
on from them so we will be

3205
01:40:49,727 --> 01:40:51,628
working on that have an

3206
01:40:51,628 --> 01:40:51,929
answering questions.

3207
01:40:51,929 --> 01:40:52,229
>> okay.

3208
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:54,229
Thank you.

3209
01:40:54,631 --> 01:40:55,332
So I have MS. Watlington and

3210
01:40:55,332 --> 01:40:57,534
then I have MS. Mayor, thank

3211
01:40:57,534 --> 01:40:58,302
you.

3212
01:40:58,302 --> 01:41:00,671
A couple of things you already

3213
01:41:00,671 --> 01:41:01,372
spoke MR. Brown towards the

3214
01:41:01,372 --> 01:41:03,574
speed mark slash road diet or

3215
01:41:03,574 --> 01:41:05,574
pedestrian connection there.

3216
01:41:06,677 --> 01:41:09,713
My question I think as it

3217
01:41:09,713 --> 01:41:10,447
relates to that is highly this

3218
01:41:10,447 --> 01:41:13,384
seems to be an amicable

3219
01:41:13,384 --> 01:41:13,951
discussion here and there are

3220
01:41:13,951 --> 01:41:16,121
some solutions that I that

3221
01:41:16,121 --> 01:41:16,921
sounds like are coming forward

3222
01:41:16,921 --> 01:41:19,324
so I'd like to know and you

3223
01:41:19,324 --> 01:41:19,958
don't have to answer it tonight

3224
01:41:19,958 --> 01:41:21,926
but I would like a report out

3225
01:41:21,926 --> 01:41:24,729
on what in our policy needs to

3226
01:41:24,729 --> 01:41:25,396
change such that this is the

3227
01:41:25,396 --> 01:41:27,932
rule rather than the exception.

3228
01:41:27,932 --> 01:41:31,135
I don't want folks to have to

3229
01:41:31,135 --> 01:41:31,802
go through a conventional than

3230
01:41:31,802 --> 01:41:33,872
conditional to have this kind

3231
01:41:33,872 --> 01:41:34,539
of conversation if there is a

3232
01:41:34,539 --> 01:41:37,142
way that we can bake it into

3233
01:41:37,142 --> 01:41:39,477
our policies, I, I, I would

3234
01:41:39,477 --> 01:41:40,245
prefer that.

3235
01:41:40,245 --> 01:41:42,313
So again, I don't expect you to

3236
01:41:42,313 --> 01:41:43,140
answer it tonight but if you

3237
01:41:43,140 --> 01:41:45,517
all could come back to me with

3238
01:41:45,517 --> 01:41:47,685
what places in our policy could

3239
01:41:47,685 --> 01:41:50,850
we codify what's being

3240
01:41:50,488 --> 01:41:53,488
described here that would be

3241
01:41:53,625 --> 01:41:54,192
helpful I yeah I think we

3242
01:41:54,192 --> 01:41:56,161
haven't had a lot of

3243
01:41:56,161 --> 01:41:56,795
conversations with them about

3244
01:41:56,795 --> 01:41:59,195
the possibility of conditional

3245
01:41:59,264 --> 01:42:02,167
because we've expressed that we

3246
01:42:02,167 --> 01:42:02,767
preferred to see the site go

3247
01:42:02,767 --> 01:42:04,836
conditional from the start of

3248
01:42:04,836 --> 01:42:07,438
this process and we just

3249
01:42:07,438 --> 01:42:09,838
haven't heard back frankly.

3250
01:42:10,442 --> 01:42:11,430
So I'm glad to hear that it

3251
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:13,245
will be changing the request

3252
01:42:13,245 --> 01:42:15,581
and we look forward to working

3253
01:42:15,581 --> 01:42:16,181
to improve that and see a

3254
01:42:16,181 --> 01:42:18,517
better plan moving forward.

3255
01:42:18,517 --> 01:42:19,170
But I don't know that we could

3256
01:42:19,170 --> 01:42:21,170
have prevented tonight's

3257
01:42:21,686 --> 01:42:22,254
situation because they were

3258
01:42:22,254 --> 01:42:25,123
also just looking for more

3259
01:42:25,123 --> 01:42:27,326
input on this forum frankly to

3260
01:42:27,326 --> 01:42:27,893
understand where they can go

3261
01:42:27,893 --> 01:42:30,293
from there and understanding

3262
01:42:30,429 --> 01:42:33,231
that they do have a timeline

3263
01:42:33,231 --> 01:42:35,631
situation where they could

3264
01:42:35,634 --> 01:42:38,340
feasibly resubmit a conditional

3265
01:42:38,537 --> 01:42:39,238
request by mid-JULY to come

3266
01:42:39,238 --> 01:42:41,373
back before you in AUGUST with

3267
01:42:41,373 --> 01:42:44,110
a conditional request for this

3268
01:42:44,110 --> 01:42:44,744
allows them a chance to get

3269
01:42:44,744 --> 01:42:46,445
twice the amount of feedback

3270
01:42:46,445 --> 01:42:46,712
essentially.

3271
01:42:46,712 --> 01:42:47,313
Sure.

3272
01:42:47,313 --> 01:42:49,749
And I'm not talking about

3273
01:42:49,749 --> 01:42:50,820
necessarily how to prevent what

3274
01:42:50,820 --> 01:42:50,750
occurred here.

3275
01:42:50,750 --> 01:42:52,451
What I'm saying is I think I

3276
01:42:52,451 --> 01:42:52,618
like the way this is shaping

3277
01:42:52,618 --> 01:42:54,618
up.

3278
01:42:55,254 --> 01:42:55,988
If there is if there are points

3279
01:42:55,988 --> 01:42:58,590
in our policy that can get us

3280
01:42:58,590 --> 01:43:00,894
here as a matter of course

3281
01:43:00,894 --> 01:43:01,527
rather than just being relying

3282
01:43:01,527 --> 01:43:04,497
on the professionalism or the

3283
01:43:04,497 --> 01:43:05,131
generosity if you will, of the

3284
01:43:05,131 --> 01:43:05,331
petitioner or the petitioner's

3285
01:43:05,331 --> 01:43:07,331
agent.

3286
01:43:07,467 --> 01:43:07,767
That's what I want to

3287
01:43:07,767 --> 01:43:09,767
understand.

3288
01:43:10,269 --> 01:43:10,937
So I'm not sure who the right

3289
01:43:10,937 --> 01:43:11,353
person necessarily to take that

3290
01:43:11,353 --> 01:43:11,412
back is.

3291
01:43:11,412 --> 01:43:13,412
Yeah.

3292
01:43:13,673 --> 01:43:14,340
If you all could come back to

3293
01:43:14,340 --> 01:43:16,175
me with maybe a white paper on

3294
01:43:16,175 --> 01:43:18,478
that that right right.

3295
01:43:18,478 --> 01:43:19,212
I think and I think there are

3296
01:43:19,212 --> 01:43:21,348
portions I will just say I will

3297
01:43:21,348 --> 01:43:21,948
follow up with that in a report

3298
01:43:21,948 --> 01:43:23,716
out but I do think there are

3299
01:43:23,716 --> 01:43:24,384
portions of our committee area

3300
01:43:24,384 --> 01:43:26,853
plans and specifically what the

3301
01:43:26,853 --> 01:43:29,220
police type five criteria

3302
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:29,655
speaks to is setting up for the

3303
01:43:29,655 --> 01:43:32,580
conversation that we had here

3304
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:32,291
and for other petitions moving

3305
01:43:32,291 --> 01:43:32,925
forward.

3306
01:43:32,925 --> 01:43:34,793
So that is a big part of it.

3307
01:43:34,793 --> 01:43:37,793
But we will outline more

3308
01:43:37,864 --> 01:43:38,331
specifically how we can do that

3309
01:43:38,331 --> 01:43:38,631
more moving forward.

3310
01:43:38,631 --> 01:43:40,330
>> awesome.

3311
01:43:40,330 --> 01:43:40,667
Thank you.

3312
01:43:40,667 --> 01:43:43,403
And then my second question

3313
01:43:43,403 --> 01:43:44,400
just I'm just from my own

3314
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,339
understanding as you all think

3315
01:43:46,339 --> 01:43:46,906
about moving from multifamily

3316
01:43:46,906 --> 01:43:48,841
to single family, I'm just

3317
01:43:48,841 --> 01:43:49,442
curious from a price point

3318
01:43:49,442 --> 01:43:52,780
standpoint how that how that

3319
01:43:52,780 --> 01:43:52,812
shakes up.

3320
01:43:52,812 --> 01:43:53,313
The reason I bring that up is

3321
01:43:53,313 --> 01:43:55,713
because earlier in the

3322
01:43:55,816 --> 01:43:56,383
conversation and here tonight

3323
01:43:56,383 --> 01:43:58,551
we talked about density and

3324
01:43:58,551 --> 01:44:00,551
affordability.

3325
01:44:00,988 --> 01:44:03,623
>> and so I'm just curious what

3326
01:44:03,623 --> 01:44:06,526
that looks like versus the

3327
01:44:06,526 --> 01:44:06,760
houses that are already on the

3328
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,760
ground.

3329
01:44:09,963 --> 01:44:12,933
>> you know, it's funny and the

3330
01:44:12,933 --> 01:44:13,434
the per square foot price and I

3331
01:44:13,434 --> 01:44:14,101
don't have the answer.

3332
01:44:14,101 --> 01:44:15,369
I'm happy to give that to you

3333
01:44:15,369 --> 01:44:18,172
and let the petitioner answer.

3334
01:44:18,172 --> 01:44:18,772
But the per square foot price

3335
01:44:18,772 --> 01:44:20,974
of these homes is to me

3336
01:44:20,974 --> 01:44:21,642
substantially higher just

3337
01:44:21,642 --> 01:44:23,643
because that's that's what new

3338
01:44:23,643 --> 01:44:24,277
build is looking like this this

3339
01:44:24,277 --> 01:44:26,580
petitioner is comfortable with

3340
01:44:26,580 --> 01:44:27,347
going to the single family.

3341
01:44:27,347 --> 01:44:28,850
You know most of the stuff we

3342
01:44:28,850 --> 01:44:29,383
see is townhomes because that's

3343
01:44:29,383 --> 01:44:31,783
all we can build.

3344
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:32,720
The people can afford this is a

3345
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,722
unique site here where he does

3346
01:44:34,722 --> 01:44:36,924
think that he can offer single

3347
01:44:36,924 --> 01:44:37,625
family homes.

3348
01:44:37,625 --> 01:44:40,270
They MAY be slightly smaller

3349
01:44:40,270 --> 01:44:44,310
than the lots we have out there

3350
01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:44,698
but I want to throw out a

3351
01:44:44,698 --> 01:44:46,367
number but I'll get back to you

3352
01:44:46,367 --> 01:44:46,567
on that that that would be

3353
01:44:46,567 --> 01:44:46,768
fine.

3354
01:44:46,768 --> 01:44:47,468
Yeah.

3355
01:44:47,468 --> 01:44:49,737
I just want to make sure that

3356
01:44:49,737 --> 01:44:50,304
we're current and just thinking

3357
01:44:50,304 --> 01:44:52,707
about as we're asking for

3358
01:44:52,707 --> 01:44:53,374
different types of housing

3359
01:44:53,374 --> 01:44:55,743
we've got a good sense of what

3360
01:44:55,743 --> 01:44:56,343
that means relative to the

3361
01:44:56,343 --> 01:44:58,479
surrounding area and we'd be

3362
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:59,790
happy to share that because

3363
01:44:59,790 --> 01:45:00,981
there is as that lot gets

3364
01:45:00,981 --> 01:45:01,548
larger that home price

3365
01:45:01,548 --> 01:45:02,149
multiplies pretty quickly.

3366
01:45:02,149 --> 01:45:02,383
>> so it's a great question.

3367
01:45:02,383 --> 01:45:04,850
Awesome.

3368
01:45:04,850 --> 01:45:04,419
Thank you.

3369
01:45:04,419 --> 01:45:06,419
>> okay.

3370
01:45:07,522 --> 01:45:07,789
I have MS. Mayo followed by

3371
01:45:07,789 --> 01:45:09,789
MRS. Mira.

3372
01:45:10,458 --> 01:45:11,125
>> thank you so glad to hear

3373
01:45:11,125 --> 01:45:13,261
collin that your looking in the

3374
01:45:13,261 --> 01:45:15,661
conditional rezoning I just

3375
01:45:15,897 --> 01:45:16,430
wanted to address some of the

3376
01:45:16,430 --> 01:45:18,430
community's concerns so

3377
01:45:18,699 --> 01:45:19,300
thinking through ways that

3378
01:45:19,300 --> 01:45:21,369
everyone's kind of heard my

3379
01:45:21,369 --> 01:45:22,700
story about how we've been able

3380
01:45:22,700 --> 01:45:23,738
to keep corporate landlords out

3381
01:45:23,738 --> 01:45:24,272
of my neighborhood for the last

3382
01:45:24,272 --> 01:45:26,441
11 years by enforcing our

3383
01:45:26,441 --> 01:45:28,476
bylaws in order to have owner

3384
01:45:28,476 --> 01:45:30,476
occupied units.

3385
01:45:30,979 --> 01:45:31,613
Are you all amenable to doing

3386
01:45:31,613 --> 01:45:34,182
something similar with the ccr

3387
01:45:34,182 --> 01:45:34,515
or some bylaws?

3388
01:45:34,515 --> 01:45:35,283
I think so.

3389
01:45:35,283 --> 01:45:37,151
The last olympiad right deal we

3390
01:45:37,151 --> 01:45:37,352
did they were comfortable with

3391
01:45:37,352 --> 01:45:37,986
that.

3392
01:45:37,986 --> 01:45:41,560
That was in your district so

3393
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:41,756
okay so maybe like 20% only two

3394
01:45:41,756 --> 01:45:44,426
or I don't know if I'm allowed

3395
01:45:44,426 --> 01:45:44,860
to talk about something.

3396
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:46,860
>> it's okay.

3397
01:45:47,162 --> 01:45:47,429
I'll I'll talk with you about

3398
01:45:47,429 --> 01:45:47,662
anything.

3399
01:45:47,662 --> 01:45:47,863
>> okay.

3400
01:45:47,863 --> 01:45:49,664
Sorry.

3401
01:45:49,664 --> 01:45:52,664
i'm what about a conservation

3402
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:53,268
easements?

3403
01:45:53,268 --> 01:45:55,203
So thinking through like

3404
01:45:55,203 --> 01:45:55,838
ridgeline where connex had a

3405
01:45:55,838 --> 01:45:56,138
neighborhood can we go to the

3406
01:45:56,138 --> 01:45:58,138
other side?

3407
01:45:58,474 --> 01:45:59,700
>> that's a lot.

3408
01:45:59,700 --> 01:46:00,909
This is not as great.

3409
01:46:00,909 --> 01:46:02,711
Yeah.

3410
01:46:02,711 --> 01:46:04,711
Yeah, that one.

3411
01:46:05,747 --> 01:46:06,348
Could we do like a conservation

3412
01:46:06,348 --> 01:46:08,483
easement potentially to help

3413
01:46:08,483 --> 01:46:09,184
with some of those homeowners

3414
01:46:09,184 --> 01:46:11,953
for just a little privacy so

3415
01:46:11,953 --> 01:46:14,890
you all we're not going to be

3416
01:46:14,890 --> 01:46:15,591
oftentimes I'll see developers

3417
01:46:15,591 --> 01:46:17,827
clear cut and then they'll add

3418
01:46:17,827 --> 01:46:18,460
trees back but you know it's

3419
01:46:18,460 --> 01:46:20,763
going to take 20 or 30 years

3420
01:46:20,763 --> 01:46:21,363
for those trees to be half of

3421
01:46:21,363 --> 01:46:21,664
the size that the existing

3422
01:46:21,664 --> 01:46:23,664
trees are.

3423
01:46:23,665 --> 01:46:24,233
So I think that MAY be

3424
01:46:24,233 --> 01:46:26,535
something that the neighbors

3425
01:46:26,535 --> 01:46:28,935
made me appreciate keeping

3426
01:46:29,504 --> 01:46:30,272
those existing mature trees

3427
01:46:30,272 --> 01:46:33,900
there so they have some privacy

3428
01:46:33,900 --> 01:46:35,444
and it's not just you know,

3429
01:46:35,444 --> 01:46:37,547
they can see in the other

3430
01:46:37,547 --> 01:46:39,947
person's yard or windows.

3431
01:46:40,282 --> 01:46:40,950
So if you could take that back

3432
01:46:40,950 --> 01:46:41,617
to the petitioner as well

3433
01:46:41,617 --> 01:46:44,170
potentially putting an easement

3434
01:46:44,530 --> 01:46:46,522
kind of along that one part of

3435
01:46:46,522 --> 01:46:47,122
the triangle closer to

3436
01:46:47,122 --> 01:46:49,492
ridgeline and maybe the other

3437
01:46:49,492 --> 01:46:51,994
part but just for some privacy

3438
01:46:51,994 --> 01:46:52,295
but you all can I can talk

3439
01:46:52,295 --> 01:46:53,129
about that.

3440
01:46:53,129 --> 01:46:54,497
>> I just wanted to throw that

3441
01:46:54,497 --> 01:46:55,197
out there.

3442
01:46:55,197 --> 01:46:55,665
Holly, have you ever thought

3443
01:46:55,665 --> 01:46:57,834
about talking to the

3444
01:46:57,834 --> 01:47:00,235
neighborhood at all and asking

3445
01:47:00,235 --> 01:47:00,770
if they're at all interested in

3446
01:47:00,770 --> 01:47:03,170
having like the planning

3447
01:47:03,172 --> 01:47:03,939
department do their roadshow?

3448
01:47:03,939 --> 01:47:06,142
>> oh, I can certainly follow

3449
01:47:06,142 --> 01:47:08,142
up with them.

3450
01:47:08,478 --> 01:47:08,912
We haven't had a lot of i

3451
01:47:08,912 --> 01:47:09,446
haven't had direct

3452
01:47:09,446 --> 01:47:11,446
conversations with these

3453
01:47:11,981 --> 01:47:14,417
neighbors but we can follow up

3454
01:47:14,417 --> 01:47:15,117
with you with information on

3455
01:47:15,117 --> 01:47:18,117
the community area plans road

3456
01:47:18,621 --> 01:47:21,257
show which as he noted is the

3457
01:47:21,257 --> 01:47:21,891
planning tool and it allows

3458
01:47:21,891 --> 01:47:24,261
communities to learn a little

3459
01:47:24,261 --> 01:47:24,861
bit more about their community

3460
01:47:24,861 --> 01:47:27,970
area plans and potentially how

3461
01:47:27,970 --> 01:47:27,431
to use those area plans as an

3462
01:47:27,431 --> 01:47:29,431
advocacy tool.

3463
01:47:29,966 --> 01:47:32,369
So I will connect them with our

3464
01:47:32,369 --> 01:47:32,769
long range planning team which

3465
01:47:32,769 --> 01:47:33,236
sets those up.

3466
01:47:33,236 --> 01:47:35,236
>> thank you holly.

3467
01:47:35,238 --> 01:47:35,838
I think that would be really

3468
01:47:35,838 --> 01:47:38,174
helpful just going forward.

3469
01:47:38,174 --> 01:47:40,911
It seems like there's quite a

3470
01:47:40,911 --> 01:47:41,612
bit of land in the area that

3471
01:47:41,612 --> 01:47:43,780
you know MAY potentially be

3472
01:47:43,780 --> 01:47:44,381
redeveloped in future years.

3473
01:47:44,381 --> 01:47:46,617
So I always think it's

3474
01:47:46,617 --> 01:47:47,217
important to have the

3475
01:47:47,217 --> 01:47:48,785
opportunity to be the most

3476
01:47:48,785 --> 01:47:49,419
effective advocate so

3477
01:47:49,419 --> 01:47:51,588
definitely would take that

3478
01:47:51,588 --> 01:47:53,988
opportunity up with staff.

3479
01:47:54,257 --> 01:47:55,580
I think that has been helpful

3480
01:47:55,580 --> 01:47:57,600
for a lot of different

3481
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,600
communities.

3482
01:48:00,197 --> 01:48:00,864
And lastly seerat is here

3483
01:48:00,864 --> 01:48:03,400
hopefully you see that if y'all

3484
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:06,136
can chat with them later about

3485
01:48:06,136 --> 01:48:06,803
the traffic calming that that

3486
01:48:06,803 --> 01:48:09,206
would be yours kind of domain.

3487
01:48:09,206 --> 01:48:11,441
So if you all can get back with

3488
01:48:11,441 --> 01:48:12,142
them about you know if those

3489
01:48:12,142 --> 01:48:14,677
speed bumps have been or

3490
01:48:14,677 --> 01:48:15,279
traffic calming has been

3491
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:17,448
approved what's the timeline

3492
01:48:17,448 --> 01:48:18,249
for that?

3493
01:48:18,249 --> 01:48:20,651
But we want to make sure we're

3494
01:48:20,651 --> 01:48:21,180
being responsive to residents.

3495
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:23,180
>> thank you.

3496
01:48:23,154 --> 01:48:23,988
Thank you.

3497
01:48:23,988 --> 01:48:24,155
I have MS. As mira followed by

3498
01:48:24,155 --> 01:48:25,656
MS..

3499
01:48:25,656 --> 01:48:27,656
Johnson thank you.

3500
01:48:28,859 --> 01:48:29,660
>> I agree with councilmember

3501
01:48:29,660 --> 01:48:31,895
maile in terms of the speed

3502
01:48:31,895 --> 01:48:32,429
bump requests, I think that's

3503
01:48:32,429 --> 01:48:34,799
something city staff can

3504
01:48:34,799 --> 01:48:37,702
address while working with the

3505
01:48:37,702 --> 01:48:38,202
neighborhood and you heard from

3506
01:48:38,202 --> 01:48:40,671
MR. Sharkey who is the

3507
01:48:40,671 --> 01:48:42,773
PRESIDENT Of the tree so if you

3508
01:48:42,773 --> 01:48:45,576
could please connect with him

3509
01:48:45,576 --> 01:48:47,976
that would be great.

3510
01:48:48,245 --> 01:48:49,130
Well, MR. Brown thank you and

3511
01:48:49,130 --> 01:48:51,516
you always find a way to

3512
01:48:51,516 --> 01:48:53,516
address communities concerns.

3513
01:48:55,753 --> 01:48:56,320
I appreciate your and the

3514
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,320
petitioners willingness to

3515
01:48:58,856 --> 01:49:00,892
address some of the concerns in

3516
01:49:00,892 --> 01:49:03,861
terms of the large size and

3517
01:49:03,861 --> 01:49:06,261
address concerns around single

3518
01:49:06,831 --> 01:49:07,698
having lesser density so having

3519
01:49:07,698 --> 01:49:09,901
single family homes so that it

3520
01:49:09,901 --> 01:49:12,301
aligns with the existing

3521
01:49:12,570 --> 01:49:14,570
neighborhood and surrounding

3522
01:49:15,673 --> 01:49:17,542
homes because going from 11,000

3523
01:49:17,542 --> 01:49:20,311
square foot lot to 3000 it's

3524
01:49:20,311 --> 01:49:23,800
pretty significant and I think

3525
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:23,948
it's a noticeable difference.

3526
01:49:23,948 --> 01:49:26,451
So I would like you to continue

3527
01:49:26,451 --> 01:49:29,210
to work with them so that we

3528
01:49:29,210 --> 01:49:31,690
can ensure that there is not a

3529
01:49:31,690 --> 01:49:33,859
mismatch in this new

3530
01:49:33,859 --> 01:49:35,859
development versus what

3531
01:49:41,366 --> 01:49:43,366
currently exists there.

3532
01:49:44,503 --> 01:49:46,903
So currently this rezoning

3533
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:50,576
request is for n1 e which is

3534
01:49:50,576 --> 01:49:51,376
more intense.

3535
01:49:51,376 --> 01:49:54,279
So if we were to go less

3536
01:49:54,279 --> 01:49:57,820
intense road we'd go back to

3537
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:59,884
something lesser than n1 e

3538
01:49:59,884 --> 01:50:01,920
right they could consider one

3539
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,890
or the other in one district as

3540
01:50:04,890 --> 01:50:08,794
you can see in this map here

3541
01:50:08,794 --> 01:50:09,662
what is zoned next to them is

3542
01:50:09,662 --> 01:50:11,997
in one b and this is some old

3543
01:50:11,997 --> 01:50:13,997
conditional single family

3544
01:50:14,967 --> 01:50:17,967
zoning and the development in

3545
01:50:18,700 --> 01:50:18,738
terms of the lot dimensions

3546
01:50:18,738 --> 01:50:20,506
these lots often exceed the n1b

3547
01:50:20,506 --> 01:50:21,207
dimensions they are developed

3548
01:50:21,207 --> 01:50:24,807
out before the ada long before

3549
01:50:25,578 --> 01:50:26,212
it but they could consider a

3550
01:50:26,212 --> 01:50:27,913
less than ten zoning district

3551
01:50:27,913 --> 01:50:28,581
which is what we discussed with

3552
01:50:28,581 --> 01:50:29,215
them during the previous middle

3553
01:50:29,215 --> 01:50:32,215
meeting before this was even

3554
01:50:32,618 --> 01:50:34,820
filed in one e is certainly not

3555
01:50:34,820 --> 01:50:37,820
something that we were wanting

3556
01:50:37,957 --> 01:50:40,593
to consider on this site and if

3557
01:50:40,593 --> 01:50:41,227
they have constraints that

3558
01:50:41,227 --> 01:50:43,629
they're trying to work around

3559
01:50:43,629 --> 01:50:44,230
and they do that in a

3560
01:50:44,230 --> 01:50:46,630
conditional request but still

3561
01:50:46,699 --> 01:50:49,735
commit to white dimensions or a

3562
01:50:49,735 --> 01:50:50,169
product type that feels

3563
01:50:50,169 --> 01:50:50,803
consistent with the

3564
01:50:50,803 --> 01:50:52,137
neighborhood, then we can have

3565
01:50:52,137 --> 01:50:52,839
that discussion.

3566
01:50:52,839 --> 01:50:55,375
But I think and one is still

3567
01:50:55,375 --> 01:50:58,311
too intense of a district.

3568
01:50:58,311 --> 01:50:58,978
Yeah well I appreciate again

3569
01:50:58,978 --> 01:51:00,914
staff's due diligence you're on

3570
01:51:00,914 --> 01:51:01,214
a roll as a planning

3571
01:51:01,214 --> 01:51:03,214
department.

3572
01:51:03,349 --> 01:51:06,152
We appreciate it and I'm sure

3573
01:51:06,152 --> 01:51:06,486
that it will be continued

3574
01:51:06,486 --> 01:51:08,486
conversations.

3575
01:51:09,210 --> 01:51:11,258
MR. Brown to come to a middle

3576
01:51:11,258 --> 01:51:14,258
ground here and I appreciate

3577
01:51:14,261 --> 01:51:14,528
the neighborhood for coming out

3578
01:51:14,528 --> 01:51:16,528
to speak.

3579
01:51:17,230 --> 01:51:17,931
It's only adds value and

3580
01:51:17,931 --> 01:51:20,133
hopefully we can come to a

3581
01:51:20,133 --> 01:51:20,467
better outcome.

3582
01:51:20,467 --> 01:51:22,467
Thank you.

3583
01:51:23,169 --> 01:51:26,169
Thank you, MS. Johnson and

3584
01:51:26,372 --> 01:51:26,639
thank you, councilmember

3585
01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:28,639
anderson.

3586
01:51:29,176 --> 01:51:33,376
I wanted to ask MR. Sharkey the

3587
01:51:33,914 --> 01:51:36,850
hoa PRESIDENT Just to come down

3588
01:51:36,850 --> 01:51:39,653
for a moment please you don't

3589
01:51:39,653 --> 01:51:41,988
mind while he's coming down

3590
01:51:41,988 --> 01:51:43,988
I'll ask colin.

3591
01:51:45,192 --> 01:51:48,792
Colin from MR. Brown thank you

3592
01:51:49,497 --> 01:51:51,999
so so you have you met with the

3593
01:51:51,999 --> 01:51:52,166
district four coalition on this

3594
01:51:52,166 --> 01:51:52,866
?

3595
01:51:52,866 --> 01:51:55,435
We we have kind of given them

3596
01:51:55,435 --> 01:51:56,103
an intro on the site.

3597
01:51:56,103 --> 01:51:56,436
This is so close to this

3598
01:51:56,436 --> 01:51:58,405
neighborhood.

3599
01:51:58,405 --> 01:51:58,572
That's who we're concentrate

3600
01:51:58,572 --> 01:51:59,373
on.

3601
01:51:59,373 --> 01:52:01,775
the key to it is we've got to

3602
01:52:01,775 --> 01:52:02,175
figure out what happens with

3603
01:52:02,175 --> 01:52:02,376
ridge ridgeline.

3604
01:52:02,376 --> 01:52:04,376
Okay.

3605
01:52:04,579 --> 01:52:05,179
And then we'll know more and of

3606
01:52:05,179 --> 01:52:05,513
course we'll present that to

3607
01:52:05,513 --> 01:52:07,248
district four.

3608
01:52:07,248 --> 01:52:07,581
But that's a real threshold

3609
01:52:07,581 --> 01:52:09,581
question okay.

3610
01:52:10,818 --> 01:52:14,418
>> so and MR. Sharkey, I wanted

3611
01:52:15,889 --> 01:52:16,900
to ask you thank you for coming

3612
01:52:16,900 --> 01:52:18,900
down.

3613
01:52:18,959 --> 01:52:21,620
>> thank you also for your

3614
01:52:21,620 --> 01:52:23,464
diligence to your community eye

3615
01:52:23,464 --> 01:52:23,831
are you part of the district

3616
01:52:23,831 --> 01:52:24,499
four coalition?

3617
01:52:24,499 --> 01:52:26,133
Is your neighborhood a part of

3618
01:52:26,133 --> 01:52:26,801
that coalition?

3619
01:52:26,801 --> 01:52:28,703
>> I'll talk to you about it

3620
01:52:28,703 --> 01:52:29,337
afterwards if you're not I'm a

3621
01:52:29,337 --> 01:52:31,939
part of everything so that's

3622
01:52:31,939 --> 01:52:32,239
why I'm here this evening.

3623
01:52:32,239 --> 01:52:34,239
Okay, good.

3624
01:52:35,209 --> 01:52:37,478
And I have your email so there

3625
01:52:37,478 --> 01:52:39,647
are pending speed bumps for

3626
01:52:39,647 --> 01:52:40,480
your neighborhood, right?

3627
01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:40,248
>> correct.

3628
01:52:40,248 --> 01:52:42,217
Yeah.

3629
01:52:42,217 --> 01:52:42,851
Hampton place is on on the

3630
01:52:42,851 --> 01:52:45,219
schedule but I don't know when

3631
01:52:45,219 --> 01:52:48,189
it's going to be done so we

3632
01:52:48,189 --> 01:52:48,456
need we need those now and we

3633
01:52:48,456 --> 01:52:48,723
need more.

3634
01:52:48,723 --> 01:52:50,723
>> right.

3635
01:52:51,125 --> 01:52:54,950
So and I just forwarded an

3636
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:54,695
email to to councilmember to

3637
01:52:54,695 --> 01:52:57,950
the at-large council members

3638
01:52:57,866 --> 01:52:58,466
we're waiting on the chief the

3639
01:52:58,466 --> 01:53:00,669
fire chief to give us a

3640
01:53:00,669 --> 01:53:01,269
timeframe.

3641
01:53:01,269 --> 01:53:03,571
So this is on the radar.

3642
01:53:03,571 --> 01:53:04,239
They've already requested it.

3643
01:53:04,239 --> 01:53:04,839
He's already worked on that.

3644
01:53:04,839 --> 01:53:06,174
So we'll get that answer for

3645
01:53:06,174 --> 01:53:06,908
you this week.

3646
01:53:06,908 --> 01:53:08,843
>> we certainly appreciate it.

3647
01:53:08,843 --> 01:53:09,510
This is this is we've been

3648
01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:12,130
working on trying to get speed

3649
01:53:12,130 --> 01:53:14,816
bumps for about 4 to 5 years

3650
01:53:14,816 --> 01:53:15,450
and we finally made some

3651
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:17,819
progress over the last couple

3652
01:53:17,819 --> 01:53:20,121
of years and I want to thank

3653
01:53:20,121 --> 01:53:22,924
council woman renee for helping

3654
01:53:22,924 --> 01:53:23,725
me in that part to get it moved

3655
01:53:23,725 --> 01:53:26,227
up on a chain there but I can

3656
01:53:26,227 --> 01:53:26,728
use all the help in the

3657
01:53:26,728 --> 01:53:27,295
neighborhood because I'm

3658
01:53:27,295 --> 01:53:28,930
telling you the people are

3659
01:53:28,930 --> 01:53:29,531
going to we're going to have

3660
01:53:29,531 --> 01:53:31,133
some people get hit by cars

3661
01:53:31,133 --> 01:53:31,467
here real soon.

3662
01:53:31,467 --> 01:53:31,800
>> okay.

3663
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:32,000
Thank you.

3664
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:32,301
Okay.

3665
01:53:32,301 --> 01:53:34,301
Thank you.

3666
01:53:34,570 --> 01:53:37,600
And then I have a question for

3667
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,675
cedar or jake about the

3668
01:53:39,675 --> 01:53:42,100
ridgeline extension or similar.

3669
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:44,100
Thank you.

3670
01:53:48,184 --> 01:53:48,784
Thank you, MR. Sharkey, jump in

3671
01:53:48,784 --> 01:53:50,285
or that was a good evening.

3672
01:53:50,285 --> 01:53:50,553
>> council travis miller will

3673
01:53:50,553 --> 01:53:50,820
see that.

3674
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:51,220
>> hello.

3675
01:53:51,220 --> 01:53:53,880
How are you?

3676
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,591
So the concern is ridgeline

3677
01:53:55,591 --> 01:53:55,958
opening up.

3678
01:53:55,958 --> 01:53:56,124
>> ridgeline?

3679
01:53:56,124 --> 01:53:58,930
Yes.

3680
01:53:58,930 --> 01:54:00,930
So rude.

3681
01:54:01,597 --> 01:54:04,266
>> what does it take for a

3682
01:54:04,266 --> 01:54:07,403
waiver for a neighborhood to be

3683
01:54:07,403 --> 01:54:10,390
exempt from opening or from

3684
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:10,239
expanding or opening that

3685
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:12,239
stuff?

3686
01:54:12,541 --> 01:54:12,808
>> it's a possibility under

3687
01:54:12,808 --> 01:54:14,808
ordinance.

3688
01:54:15,678 --> 01:54:16,345
The subdivision ordinance there

3689
01:54:16,345 --> 01:54:18,745
are some specific requirements

3690
01:54:18,948 --> 01:54:21,316
that they have we have not

3691
01:54:21,316 --> 01:54:21,750
reviewed a site plan or

3692
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:23,750
anything like that.

3693
01:54:23,787 --> 01:54:24,530
So I made note of it.

3694
01:54:24,530 --> 01:54:24,654
Okay.

3695
01:54:24,654 --> 01:54:26,756
We'll reach out to the

3696
01:54:26,756 --> 01:54:29,558
subdivision to see if there's

3697
01:54:29,558 --> 01:54:32,558
any possibility for some type

3698
01:54:32,561 --> 01:54:33,262
of alleviation there.

3699
01:54:33,262 --> 01:54:35,131
But we'd have to coordinate

3700
01:54:35,131 --> 01:54:35,364
with them to do that.

3701
01:54:35,364 --> 01:54:35,731
>> okay.

3702
01:54:35,731 --> 01:54:36,320
Thank you.

3703
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,320
No problem.

3704
01:54:38,367 --> 01:54:38,968
So MR. Brown, when when they

3705
01:54:38,968 --> 01:54:41,604
told me about this petition

3706
01:54:41,604 --> 01:54:44,400
earlier at the noon meeting and

3707
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:44,641
I heard it was conventional and

3708
01:54:44,641 --> 01:54:46,910
staff didn't recommend it, I'm

3709
01:54:46,910 --> 01:54:49,445
just like in this district for

3710
01:54:49,445 --> 01:54:51,914
I mean so I'm glad that you all

3711
01:54:51,914 --> 01:54:52,582
have reconsidered and it will

3712
01:54:52,582 --> 01:54:55,351
be a conditional we do need

3713
01:54:55,351 --> 01:54:55,985
more information especially

3714
01:54:55,985 --> 01:54:58,155
this close to residential.

3715
01:54:58,155 --> 01:55:01,580
It's not fair the current

3716
01:55:01,580 --> 01:55:01,825
residents to to just to me in

3717
01:55:01,825 --> 01:55:04,461
my opinion just to file for a

3718
01:55:04,461 --> 01:55:06,596
petition and they have no idea

3719
01:55:06,596 --> 01:55:09,299
what's going to be involved.

3720
01:55:09,299 --> 01:55:11,935
So I think that the site plan

3721
01:55:11,935 --> 01:55:14,737
will be helpful so that cedar

3722
01:55:14,737 --> 01:55:15,205
can review it and also the the

3723
01:55:15,205 --> 01:55:17,141
neighbors and s okay.

3724
01:55:17,141 --> 01:55:19,141
Thank you.

3725
01:55:19,409 --> 01:55:19,643
So I have moved to close

3726
01:55:19,643 --> 01:55:20,430
second.

3727
01:55:20,430 --> 01:55:22,430
>> all right.

3728
01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:25,115
All in favor of closing public

3729
01:55:25,115 --> 01:55:25,549
hearing raise hands any oppose

3730
01:55:25,549 --> 01:55:27,549
that is unanimous.

3731
01:55:28,552 --> 01:55:31,688
Thank you and we will move on

3732
01:55:31,688 --> 01:55:34,880
to petition item number 23

3733
01:55:37,795 --> 01:55:39,795
petition number 20 25 03130 by

3734
01:55:42,533 --> 01:55:44,933
maruti hotel inc approximately

3735
01:55:45,836 --> 01:55:46,436
3.97 acres located on the west

3736
01:55:46,436 --> 01:55:49,436
side of the business center

3737
01:55:49,639 --> 01:55:52,610
drive south of tucker S.G. Road

3738
01:55:52,610 --> 01:55:55,746
and east of colton lane and

3739
01:55:55,746 --> 01:55:57,746
councilmember mayo's district.

3740
01:55:58,248 --> 01:56:01,218
The site is currently zoned as

3741
01:56:01,218 --> 01:56:03,618
manufacturing and logistics one

3742
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:06,290
and airport noise disclosure

3743
01:56:06,290 --> 01:56:06,790
overlay and the proposed zoning

3744
01:56:06,790 --> 01:56:08,790
is general commercial

3745
01:56:09,894 --> 01:56:12,294
conditional airport port noise

3746
01:56:12,697 --> 01:56:14,697
disclosure overlay staff

3747
01:56:15,766 --> 01:56:18,102
recommends approval of this

3748
01:56:18,102 --> 01:56:20,438
petition upon resolutions of

3749
01:56:20,438 --> 01:56:22,438
outstanding issues.

3750
01:56:24,408 --> 01:56:25,110
>> there are no speakers

3751
01:56:25,110 --> 01:56:27,479
against this petition and so

3752
01:56:27,479 --> 01:56:29,879
after staff's presentation is

3753
01:56:29,981 --> 01:56:30,715
this MR..

3754
01:56:30,715 --> 01:56:31,820
>> MR. Brown again you'll have

3755
01:56:31,820 --> 01:56:32,617
three minutes.

3756
01:56:32,617 --> 01:56:33,170
Thank you.

3757
01:56:33,170 --> 01:56:35,170
>> evening.

3758
01:56:35,853 --> 01:56:38,289
This site is right at four

3759
01:56:38,289 --> 01:56:40,524
acres is located west of little

3760
01:56:40,524 --> 01:56:43,161
rock road south of tucker S.G.

3761
01:56:43,161 --> 01:56:45,561
Road and north interstate 85.

3762
01:56:46,865 --> 01:56:49,567
It is wooded and surrounded by

3763
01:56:49,567 --> 01:56:50,201
residential uses to the north

3764
01:56:50,201 --> 01:56:52,504
and west with commercial uses

3765
01:56:52,504 --> 01:56:54,639
to the south and east along

3766
01:56:54,639 --> 01:56:56,639
little rock road.

3767
01:56:57,775 --> 01:57:00,645
Current zoning is iml one and

3768
01:57:00,645 --> 01:57:02,948
do airport noise disclosure

3769
01:57:02,948 --> 01:57:05,170
overlay with the proposed

3770
01:57:05,170 --> 01:57:07,786
zoning of C.G. Conditional

3771
01:57:07,786 --> 01:57:08,320
eight and do you the 20 40

3772
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,720
policy map recommends the

3773
01:57:10,989 --> 01:57:12,989
manufacture sharing and

3774
01:57:13,491 --> 01:57:15,891
logistics please state the

3775
01:57:16,461 --> 01:57:18,631
petition would allow for a

3776
01:57:18,631 --> 01:57:20,631
hotel with 160 rooms.

3777
01:57:20,833 --> 01:57:21,467
There is an extension of

3778
01:57:21,467 --> 01:57:23,635
kanimbla drive proposed through

3779
01:57:23,635 --> 01:57:24,303
the site.

3780
01:57:24,303 --> 01:57:26,872
Petitioner does note an intent

3781
01:57:26,872 --> 01:57:27,472
to abandon and a portion of the

3782
01:57:27,472 --> 01:57:29,741
right of way and not construct

3783
01:57:29,741 --> 01:57:30,675
the extension.

3784
01:57:30,675 --> 01:57:33,244
There would be a 25 foot type b

3785
01:57:33,244 --> 01:57:35,447
landscape yard along the

3786
01:57:35,447 --> 01:57:37,847
northern property boundary open

3787
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,519
space areas along a beside the

3788
01:57:40,519 --> 01:57:40,986
building and along the business

3789
01:57:40,986 --> 01:57:42,986
center drive frontage

3790
01:57:43,556 --> 01:57:44,189
petitioner is committing to

3791
01:57:44,189 --> 01:57:46,589
certain preferred common open

3792
01:57:46,592 --> 01:57:48,427
space standards be an eight

3793
01:57:48,427 --> 01:57:49,610
foot planing strip and six foot

3794
01:57:49,610 --> 01:57:51,461
sidewalk along business center

3795
01:57:53,399 --> 01:57:54,330
drive position is consistent

3796
01:57:54,330 --> 01:57:56,302
with the goals and policies of

3797
01:57:56,302 --> 01:57:58,471
the west middle community area

3798
01:57:58,471 --> 01:57:59,380
plan and MAY facilitate goal

3799
01:57:59,380 --> 01:58:01,438
eight diverse and resilient

3800
01:58:02,740 --> 01:58:02,708
economic opportunity by

3801
01:58:02,708 --> 01:58:05,211
generating a range of jobs

3802
01:58:05,211 --> 01:58:05,444
across different skill skill

3803
01:58:05,444 --> 01:58:07,444
levels.

3804
01:58:08,347 --> 01:58:08,914
This does not directly

3805
01:58:08,914 --> 01:58:10,914
facilitate any comprehensive

3806
01:58:10,984 --> 01:58:12,984
plan goals.

3807
01:58:14,787 --> 01:58:17,890
Request to amend the policy map

3808
01:58:17,890 --> 01:58:17,624
to commercial place type does

3809
01:58:17,624 --> 01:58:20,240
meet minor map amendment

3810
01:58:20,793 --> 01:58:22,793
criteria staff recommends

3811
01:58:23,829 --> 01:58:24,363
approval this petition upon

3812
01:58:24,363 --> 01:58:24,764
resolution of outstanding

3813
01:58:24,764 --> 01:58:26,764
issues related to

3814
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:27,701
transportation vision and the

3815
01:58:27,701 --> 01:58:29,701
environment.

3816
01:58:30,300 --> 01:58:32,305
The site is adjacent to both cg

3817
01:58:32,305 --> 01:58:33,106
zoning and the commercial place

3818
01:58:33,106 --> 01:58:36,106
type and meets my amendment

3819
01:58:36,109 --> 01:58:36,576
critical year for a change to

3820
01:58:36,576 --> 01:58:38,576
commercial place type.

3821
01:58:39,450 --> 01:58:41,847
The proposed hotel and zoning

3822
01:58:41,847 --> 01:58:42,515
architecturally appropriate

3823
01:58:42,515 --> 01:58:44,350
given the site's location in

3824
01:58:44,350 --> 01:58:44,985
the little rock road commercial

3825
01:58:44,985 --> 01:58:47,385
corridor near I-85 and

3826
01:58:48,255 --> 01:58:50,655
charlotte douglas airport and

3827
01:58:50,991 --> 01:58:53,726
also the proposed hotel is less

3828
01:58:53,726 --> 01:58:54,361
intense and impactful to the

3829
01:58:54,361 --> 01:58:56,761
adjacent residential uses than

3830
01:58:56,830 --> 01:58:59,830
many uses permitted under the

3831
01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:01,434
existing imo one zoning I'm

3832
01:59:01,434 --> 01:59:03,434
taking questions following

3833
01:59:04,338 --> 01:59:06,738
petitioners comments MR. Brown

3834
01:59:07,174 --> 01:59:07,741
mayor pro tem council members

3835
01:59:07,741 --> 01:59:08,275
and committee members colin

3836
01:59:08,275 --> 01:59:09,910
brown on behalf of the

3837
01:59:09,910 --> 01:59:10,177
petitioner joe gave a good

3838
01:59:10,177 --> 01:59:12,177
overview.

3839
01:59:12,779 --> 01:59:13,480
I do want to give quickly to a

3840
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,782
couple of things so site is

3841
01:59:15,782 --> 01:59:16,349
currently zoned industrial and

3842
01:59:16,349 --> 01:59:18,718
continuing this theme about

3843
01:59:18,718 --> 01:59:19,352
unwanted connectivity.

3844
01:59:19,352 --> 01:59:21,322
The ordinance would require us

3845
01:59:21,322 --> 01:59:21,522
to extend kanimbla into the

3846
01:59:21,522 --> 01:59:23,522
site.

3847
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:24,658
That is the last thing this

3848
01:59:24,658 --> 01:59:27,327
neighborhood a very low density

3849
01:59:27,327 --> 01:59:27,961
single family homes wants

3850
01:59:27,961 --> 01:59:29,763
council room there has been i

3851
01:59:29,763 --> 01:59:30,230
think up to speed on this

3852
01:59:30,230 --> 01:59:32,630
petition for a while.

3853
01:59:32,966 --> 01:59:35,435
I do want to recognize craig

3854
01:59:35,435 --> 01:59:35,636
and cynthia devereaux who are

3855
01:59:35,636 --> 01:59:36,269
here.

3856
01:59:36,269 --> 01:59:38,272
They are the closest property

3857
01:59:38,272 --> 01:59:41,142
owners they live right here.

3858
01:59:41,142 --> 01:59:41,709
I met with them this morning.

3859
01:59:41,709 --> 01:59:44,512
They're there and the main

3860
01:59:44,512 --> 01:59:45,212
concern of the neighborhood is

3861
01:59:45,212 --> 01:59:47,481
they do not want a road coming

3862
01:59:47,481 --> 01:59:48,182
through the site.

3863
01:59:48,182 --> 01:59:48,382
How are we proposing to do

3864
01:59:48,382 --> 01:59:50,217
that?

3865
01:59:50,217 --> 01:59:52,953
We are actually going to

3866
01:59:52,953 --> 01:59:53,620
petition to abandon the portion

3867
01:59:53,620 --> 01:59:55,924
of right away that is unopened.

3868
01:59:55,924 --> 01:59:56,191
So we have filed an abandonment

3869
01:59:56,191 --> 01:59:56,925
petition.

3870
01:59:56,925 --> 01:59:58,660
The neighbors have signed on to

3871
01:59:58,660 --> 01:59:59,360
that.

3872
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,128
If we abandoned this then that

3873
02:00:01,128 --> 02:00:03,528
would not require connectivity.

3874
02:00:04,310 --> 02:00:04,632
So I did not ask everyone to

3875
02:00:04,632 --> 02:00:07,680
come out tonight and hollering

3876
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:07,668
about that but I think the

3877
02:00:07,668 --> 02:00:10,370
neighborhood will will email

3878
02:00:10,370 --> 02:00:10,237
you about the importance of

3879
02:00:10,237 --> 02:00:10,771
that.

3880
02:00:10,771 --> 02:00:13,700
The other item that is

3881
02:00:13,700 --> 02:00:13,808
important for the devil rose

3882
02:00:13,808 --> 02:00:16,311
and I'll point this out we

3883
02:00:16,311 --> 02:00:16,978
provided tree safe next to

3884
02:00:16,978 --> 02:00:19,130
their site because that's often

3885
02:00:19,130 --> 02:00:19,481
what the neighbors would like

3886
02:00:19,481 --> 02:00:21,616
to see in this case.

3887
02:00:21,616 --> 02:00:22,183
>> and I met with the devil as

3888
02:00:22,183 --> 02:00:24,685
this morning on their site

3889
02:00:24,685 --> 02:00:25,286
there are trees out there in

3890
02:00:25,286 --> 02:00:27,221
very poor condition and that

3891
02:00:27,221 --> 02:00:27,888
have fallen on their home and

3892
02:00:27,888 --> 02:00:30,759
continue to fall on their home.

3893
02:00:30,759 --> 02:00:31,393
So they have asked we're going

3894
02:00:31,393 --> 02:00:33,795
to have our engineer come out

3895
02:00:33,795 --> 02:00:36,464
and meet them and we would like

3896
02:00:36,464 --> 02:00:38,700
to remove some of those trees

3897
02:00:38,700 --> 02:00:41,369
that are a problem and replace

3898
02:00:41,369 --> 02:00:41,536
them with an appropriate buffer

3899
02:00:41,536 --> 02:00:42,203
.

3900
02:00:42,203 --> 02:00:44,572
So I think you'll hear from

3901
02:00:44,572 --> 02:00:45,306
them on that.

3902
02:00:45,306 --> 02:00:45,773
We need to make sure we can

3903
02:00:45,773 --> 02:00:47,643
still meet the audit's

3904
02:00:47,643 --> 02:00:47,843
requirements.

3905
02:00:47,843 --> 02:00:48,510
Right.

3906
02:00:48,510 --> 02:00:48,710
We've got to have tree saved

3907
02:00:48,710 --> 02:00:49,978
there.

3908
02:00:49,978 --> 02:00:50,846
So that's what we will continue

3909
02:00:50,846 --> 02:00:55,460
to work on before we submit a

3910
02:00:55,350 --> 02:00:55,617
revised plan.

3911
02:00:55,617 --> 02:00:57,617
Okay.

3912
02:00:57,953 --> 02:00:58,860
I have my sash mirror thank you

3913
02:00:58,860 --> 02:00:58,653
.

3914
02:00:58,653 --> 02:01:00,653
>> well, MR. Brown,

3915
02:01:01,156 --> 02:01:01,856
congratulations.

3916
02:01:01,856 --> 02:01:03,558
>> you have staff support on

3917
02:01:03,558 --> 02:01:05,558
this.

3918
02:01:06,462 --> 02:01:06,962
>> that's a to close the

3919
02:01:06,962 --> 02:01:09,362
hearing no other okay.

3920
02:01:11,767 --> 02:01:12,201
So I'll hang on.

3921
02:01:12,201 --> 02:01:12,434
I have MS..

3922
02:01:12,434 --> 02:01:14,434
Johnson.

3923
02:01:15,203 --> 02:01:17,806
He's done it well and this is a

3924
02:01:17,806 --> 02:01:18,206
question for staff and maybe we

3925
02:01:18,206 --> 02:01:18,840
can talk offline.

3926
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:20,976
I'd like to know more about

3927
02:01:20,976 --> 02:01:23,976
this abandoned road option that

3928
02:01:26,448 --> 02:01:28,448
avoids the connectivity.

3929
02:01:29,385 --> 02:01:31,785
Well, there's the abandonment

3930
02:01:31,987 --> 02:01:34,957
and then there's also the the

3931
02:01:34,957 --> 02:01:35,390
ordinance requirement to extend

3932
02:01:35,390 --> 02:01:35,891
the public street.

3933
02:01:35,891 --> 02:01:37,559
There's a subdivision

3934
02:01:37,559 --> 02:01:39,559
requirement.

3935
02:01:41,230 --> 02:01:41,831
There is a process separate

3936
02:01:41,831 --> 02:01:43,699
from abandonment and there's a

3937
02:01:43,699 --> 02:01:46,990
process to not constructed

3938
02:01:46,302 --> 02:01:46,602
based on topographical

3939
02:01:46,602 --> 02:01:48,602
challenges.

3940
02:01:49,505 --> 02:01:50,390
But I think the abandonment

3941
02:01:50,390 --> 02:01:52,740
will be there will be a

3942
02:01:52,740 --> 02:01:55,740
different process by which they

3943
02:01:55,444 --> 02:01:58,348
could petition to to remove

3944
02:01:58,348 --> 02:02:01,384
that portion of the the public

3945
02:02:01,384 --> 02:02:01,851
street that is currently

3946
02:02:01,851 --> 02:02:03,851
touching the property.

3947
02:02:07,623 --> 02:02:10,126
It okay can you explain the

3948
02:02:10,126 --> 02:02:10,826
abandonment?

3949
02:02:10,826 --> 02:02:12,862
It's different in this

3950
02:02:12,862 --> 02:02:15,262
situation this situation this

3951
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:18,835
area in the green and yellow is

3952
02:02:18,835 --> 02:02:19,502
dedicated already and it's it's

3953
02:02:19,502 --> 02:02:21,438
on our site so there's an area

3954
02:02:21,438 --> 02:02:21,771
for us to abandoned in the

3955
02:02:21,771 --> 02:02:23,771
previous one.

3956
02:02:24,274 --> 02:02:24,874
There's not an area for us to

3957
02:02:24,874 --> 02:02:27,900
abandon so I'm not sure that

3958
02:02:27,900 --> 02:02:27,677
we're going to continue talking

3959
02:02:27,677 --> 02:02:30,460
to see if that's an option.

3960
02:02:30,460 --> 02:02:32,460
>> okay.

3961
02:02:32,483 --> 02:02:32,883
>> in in four terms I've never

3962
02:02:32,883 --> 02:02:34,883
heard that term.

3963
02:02:34,985 --> 02:02:37,854
I'd like to hear more about it

3964
02:02:37,854 --> 02:02:38,655
and how that option applies to

3965
02:02:38,655 --> 02:02:40,524
residents so we can talk

3966
02:02:40,524 --> 02:02:40,857
offline.

3967
02:02:40,857 --> 02:02:42,857
>> okay.

3968
02:02:43,660 --> 02:02:44,194
Yeah, I think this might be

3969
02:02:44,194 --> 02:02:46,229
unique situation but we're

3970
02:02:46,229 --> 02:02:46,429
happy to follow up with you on

3971
02:02:46,429 --> 02:02:46,663
that.

3972
02:02:46,663 --> 02:02:46,963
>> okay.

3973
02:02:46,963 --> 02:02:48,963
All right.

3974
02:02:49,198 --> 02:02:49,399
Thank you.

3975
02:02:49,399 --> 02:02:50,340
Okay.

3976
02:02:50,340 --> 02:02:50,401
Is there a motion to close

3977
02:02:50,401 --> 02:02:52,401
public hearing?

3978
02:02:52,803 --> 02:02:55,439
I moved to make it all in favor

3979
02:02:55,439 --> 02:02:57,941
raise hands any oppose that is

3980
02:02:57,941 --> 02:02:58,542
unanimous.

3981
02:02:58,542 --> 02:03:00,942
Thank you, MR. Brown.

3982
02:03:01,378 --> 02:03:04,978
We will move on to petition

3983
02:03:04,981 --> 02:03:07,381
item number 24 petition number

3984
02:03:10,187 --> 02:03:11,922
2026 015 by katie trading llc.

3985
02:03:11,922 --> 02:03:13,922
So proximately 5.71 acres

3986
02:03:15,659 --> 02:03:18,228
locate at south of reagan drive

3987
02:03:18,228 --> 02:03:21,231
west of wilson lane and east of

3988
02:03:21,231 --> 02:03:22,866
transporting ocean boulevard

3989
02:03:22,866 --> 02:03:25,603
and my district district one

3990
02:03:25,603 --> 02:03:28,406
the site is currently zoned

3991
02:03:28,406 --> 02:03:29,173
light industrial conditional

3992
02:03:29,173 --> 02:03:31,676
and the proposed zoning is

3993
02:03:31,676 --> 02:03:34,760
manufacturing and logistics one

3994
02:03:34,780 --> 02:03:36,780
conditional staff recommends

3995
02:03:37,448 --> 02:03:38,215
approval of this petition and

3996
02:03:38,215 --> 02:03:40,751
there are no speakers signed up

3997
02:03:40,751 --> 02:03:43,151
to speak against it.

3998
02:03:43,254 --> 02:03:43,855
So MS. Thompson lisa thompson

3999
02:03:43,855 --> 02:03:46,591
you will have three minutes

4000
02:03:46,591 --> 02:03:47,250
after staff's presentation.

4001
02:03:47,250 --> 02:03:47,325
>> thank you.

4002
02:03:47,325 --> 02:03:49,325
Thank you.

4003
02:03:49,727 --> 02:03:52,230
This site is a little under six

4004
02:03:52,230 --> 02:03:54,630
acres located along reagan

4005
02:03:55,199 --> 02:03:55,766
drive west of wilson lane and

4006
02:03:55,766 --> 02:03:57,534
east of transportation

4007
02:03:57,534 --> 02:03:58,369
boulevard.

4008
02:03:58,369 --> 02:04:00,338
>> this is in an area where we

4009
02:04:00,338 --> 02:04:03,241
have a lot of industrial uses

4010
02:04:03,241 --> 02:04:06,244
as well as commercial uses and

4011
02:04:06,244 --> 02:04:06,844
some single family residential

4012
02:04:06,844 --> 02:04:09,347
uses east of the site along

4013
02:04:09,347 --> 02:04:11,516
wilson lane it is currently

4014
02:04:11,516 --> 02:04:12,150
zoned light industrial

4015
02:04:12,150 --> 02:04:14,550
conditional they are proposing

4016
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,556
to go to manufacturing and

4017
02:04:17,556 --> 02:04:18,223
logistics one conditional that

4018
02:04:18,223 --> 02:04:20,659
is considered in alignment with

4019
02:04:20,659 --> 02:04:21,292
the manufacturing logistics

4020
02:04:21,292 --> 02:04:24,195
place type that's on on the

4021
02:04:24,195 --> 02:04:26,865
site of as per the 2014 policy

4022
02:04:26,865 --> 02:04:29,100
memo excuse me the proposal

4023
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:29,767
itself there is new site plan

4024
02:04:29,767 --> 02:04:29,968
but they do provide conditional

4025
02:04:29,968 --> 02:04:31,968
notes.

4026
02:04:32,604 --> 02:04:35,374
Part of this proposal and they

4027
02:04:35,374 --> 02:04:37,774
note prohibited uses which

4028
02:04:38,343 --> 02:04:38,944
include a noxious uses that we

4029
02:04:38,944 --> 02:04:40,345
wouldn't want to see on the

4030
02:04:40,345 --> 02:04:40,846
site especially given

4031
02:04:40,846 --> 02:04:42,846
residential adjacency.

4032
02:04:44,490 --> 02:04:44,549
Also just wanted to point out

4033
02:04:44,549 --> 02:04:46,585
the prohibited use of

4034
02:04:46,585 --> 02:04:46,985
telecommunication and data

4035
02:04:46,985 --> 02:04:48,985
storage facility.

4036
02:04:49,554 --> 02:04:51,924
They call out a six foot class

4037
02:04:51,924 --> 02:04:52,525
a landscape yard along the

4038
02:04:52,525 --> 02:04:55,127
southern portion of the site.

4039
02:04:55,127 --> 02:04:55,728
They would also leave prohibit

4040
02:04:55,728 --> 02:04:57,696
development along the eastern

4041
02:04:57,696 --> 02:05:00,696
portion of the site and

4042
02:05:00,966 --> 02:05:01,633
dedicate a permanent greenway

4043
02:05:01,633 --> 02:05:04,330
easement to mecklenburg county

4044
02:05:04,169 --> 02:05:04,569
park and rec along the east

4045
02:05:04,569 --> 02:05:06,671
side of the site.

4046
02:05:06,671 --> 02:05:07,272
So essentially the entire

4047
02:05:07,272 --> 02:05:09,174
eastern portion of the site

4048
02:05:09,174 --> 02:05:11,911
would remain on developed and

4049
02:05:11,911 --> 02:05:12,678
they would also prohibit access

4050
02:05:12,678 --> 02:05:15,514
from wilson lane which is that

4051
02:05:15,514 --> 02:05:16,248
residential street.

4052
02:05:16,248 --> 02:05:19,848
So access could only come off

4053
02:05:21,530 --> 02:05:21,687
of reagan drive the petition is

4054
02:05:21,687 --> 02:05:24,220
considered consistent with the

4055
02:05:24,220 --> 02:05:24,523
goals and policies of the north

4056
02:05:24,523 --> 02:05:26,523
intermediate area plan.

4057
02:05:26,993 --> 02:05:29,228
It MAY further goal seven

4058
02:05:29,228 --> 02:05:31,628
because it limits development

4059
02:05:32,365 --> 02:05:33,320
adjacent to the residential

4060
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,267
areas and provides an easement

4061
02:05:35,267 --> 02:05:35,835
to mecklenburg county park and

4062
02:05:35,835 --> 02:05:38,235
rec for future greenway

4063
02:05:41,173 --> 02:05:41,740
development staff recommends

4064
02:05:41,740 --> 02:05:43,942
approval of this petition.

4065
02:05:43,942 --> 02:05:46,446
We think although is proposing

4066
02:05:46,446 --> 02:05:46,980
manufacturing logistics uses

4067
02:05:46,980 --> 02:05:49,380
currently zoned for light

4068
02:05:49,882 --> 02:05:52,618
industrial uses from an old

4069
02:05:52,618 --> 02:05:53,186
plan and it provides adequate

4070
02:05:53,186 --> 02:05:55,186
sensitivity for residential

4071
02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:56,689
uses that's adjacent to the

4072
02:05:56,689 --> 02:05:58,257
site along the eastern side and

4073
02:05:58,257 --> 02:05:59,250
to the side.

4074
02:05:59,250 --> 02:06:01,600
Given the class eight landscape

4075
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,263
yard and commitment for a

4076
02:06:03,263 --> 02:06:06,263
greenway easement and also the

4077
02:06:06,433 --> 02:06:06,933
fact that it prohibits access

4078
02:06:06,933 --> 02:06:07,567
from wilson lane, the

4079
02:06:07,567 --> 02:06:09,102
residential street east of the

4080
02:06:09,102 --> 02:06:09,736
site.

4081
02:06:09,736 --> 02:06:12,138
So with that I'll take

4082
02:06:12,138 --> 02:06:12,472
questions following petitioner

4083
02:06:12,472 --> 02:06:13,807
comments.

4084
02:06:13,807 --> 02:06:14,173
>> okay MR. Johnson you have

4085
02:06:14,173 --> 02:06:14,474
three minutes.

4086
02:06:14,474 --> 02:06:16,474
Thank you.

4087
02:06:16,776 --> 02:06:17,410
Mayor pro tem members of

4088
02:06:17,410 --> 02:06:19,813
council on zoning committee my

4089
02:06:19,813 --> 02:06:20,447
name's lisa thompson land use

4090
02:06:20,447 --> 02:06:22,820
consultant with more in been

4091
02:06:22,820 --> 02:06:22,783
alan happy to be here tonight

4092
02:06:22,783 --> 02:06:25,519
on behalf of katie trading

4093
02:06:25,519 --> 02:06:27,220
staff describe this as a clean

4094
02:06:27,220 --> 02:06:29,589
up from an old 1980s

4095
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:30,290
conditional rezoning plan.

4096
02:06:30,290 --> 02:06:33,260
By updating the plan we are

4097
02:06:33,260 --> 02:06:35,361
able to be more aligned with

4098
02:06:35,361 --> 02:06:37,998
the current udr and eliminate a

4099
02:06:37,998 --> 02:06:38,866
outdated site plan.

4100
02:06:38,866 --> 02:06:40,934
So we are pleased to have staff

4101
02:06:40,934 --> 02:06:43,334
report no outstanding issues

4102
02:06:43,871 --> 02:06:44,137
and I'd be happy to answer any

4103
02:06:44,137 --> 02:06:46,137
questions.

4104
02:06:48,942 --> 02:06:49,876
>> okay I have a question in

4105
02:06:49,876 --> 02:06:52,110
the back of in the back of this

4106
02:06:52,110 --> 02:06:54,949
packet there are some permitted

4107
02:06:54,949 --> 02:06:57,151
and prohibited uses that we've

4108
02:06:57,151 --> 02:06:59,151
we've outlined.

4109
02:07:00,187 --> 02:07:02,890
Yes or to be do we what is the

4110
02:07:02,890 --> 02:07:05,290
intention of this site?

4111
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:08,395
>> it'll be for sale but for

4112
02:07:08,395 --> 02:07:08,929
all and the one uses besides

4113
02:07:08,929 --> 02:07:11,331
the ones that we are

4114
02:07:11,331 --> 02:07:11,866
prohibiting through the tier

4115
02:07:11,866 --> 02:07:13,866
one conditional rezoning.

4116
02:07:16,904 --> 02:07:19,740
Okay okay this particular area

4117
02:07:19,740 --> 02:07:20,307
is an area that has been

4118
02:07:20,307 --> 02:07:22,707
struggling for years around

4119
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:25,579
certain activity so I thank you

4120
02:07:25,579 --> 02:07:28,382
for having these prohibit it

4121
02:07:28,382 --> 02:07:29,184
uses there to preclude anything

4122
02:07:29,184 --> 02:07:30,885
negative for coming into the

4123
02:07:30,885 --> 02:07:31,452
community.

4124
02:07:31,452 --> 02:07:33,452
Any other questions?

4125
02:07:34,220 --> 02:07:34,222
The closing or second all

4126
02:07:34,222 --> 02:07:36,222
right.

4127
02:07:36,357 --> 02:07:37,158
>> all in favor of closing

4128
02:07:37,158 --> 02:07:39,861
public hearing raise hands any

4129
02:07:39,861 --> 02:07:41,861
opposed that's unanimous.

4130
02:07:42,463 --> 02:07:45,463
Thank you, MISS MR. Thompson.

4131
02:07:47,168 --> 02:07:50,768
We will advance to item number

4132
02:07:51,373 --> 02:07:53,373
25 petition number 2026 018 by

4133
02:07:53,875 --> 02:07:56,875
S.R. Mosley properties llc

4134
02:07:57,478 --> 02:07:59,478
approx whitley 3.8 acres

4135
02:08:00,614 --> 02:08:03,551
located north of fred alexander

4136
02:08:03,551 --> 02:08:06,551
boulevard east of oak street

4137
02:08:08,557 --> 02:08:09,570
and south of 10th street and

4138
02:08:09,570 --> 02:08:11,570
MR. Graham's district.

4139
02:08:12,227 --> 02:08:14,429
The site is currently zoned as

4140
02:08:14,429 --> 02:08:15,130
general industrial conditional

4141
02:08:15,130 --> 02:08:17,765
on the proposed zoning is

4142
02:08:17,765 --> 02:08:20,165
manufacturing and logistics one

4143
02:08:20,635 --> 02:08:22,635
conditional staff recommends

4144
02:08:23,572 --> 02:08:24,173
approval of this petition and

4145
02:08:24,173 --> 02:08:24,373
we also have no opposition

4146
02:08:24,373 --> 02:08:26,208
here.

4147
02:08:26,208 --> 02:08:28,477
So after staffs presentation

4148
02:08:28,477 --> 02:08:28,844
MS. Thompson you're back up for

4149
02:08:28,844 --> 02:08:29,244
three minutes.

4150
02:08:29,244 --> 02:08:29,577
>> thank you.

4151
02:08:29,577 --> 02:08:31,577
all right.

4152
02:08:32,547 --> 02:08:34,947
Petition 2026 018 is a 3.8 acre

4153
02:08:35,116 --> 02:08:35,750
site located north of fred

4154
02:08:35,750 --> 02:08:37,786
alexander boulevard just west

4155
02:08:37,786 --> 02:08:39,421
of brookshire boulevard.

4156
02:08:39,421 --> 02:08:41,290
Plan proposes the development

4157
02:08:41,290 --> 02:08:41,857
of up to 135,000ft of

4158
02:08:41,857 --> 02:08:43,857
self-storage sites currently

4159
02:08:44,727 --> 02:08:47,696
zoned I two cd general

4160
02:08:47,696 --> 02:08:49,565
industrial conditional present

4161
02:08:49,565 --> 02:08:51,366
mill one cd manufacturing and

4162
02:08:51,366 --> 02:08:54,366
one just x one conditional

4163
02:08:54,403 --> 02:08:56,803
sorry sorry the presentation

4164
02:08:56,906 --> 02:08:59,108
was just having a take a moment

4165
02:08:59,108 --> 02:09:02,770
to catch up the rezoning

4166
02:09:02,770 --> 02:09:03,879
proposal the plan is in

4167
02:09:03,879 --> 02:09:06,279
alignment with the 2040 policy

4168
02:09:06,615 --> 02:09:07,820
map for the manufacturing and

4169
02:09:07,820 --> 02:09:09,820
logistics place type.

4170
02:09:10,285 --> 02:09:10,919
The rezoning proposal calls for

4171
02:09:10,919 --> 02:09:12,788
a self storage facility with

4172
02:09:12,788 --> 02:09:14,788
outdoor accessory, outdoor

4173
02:09:15,358 --> 02:09:15,959
storage all other use is

4174
02:09:15,959 --> 02:09:18,861
permitted by right or with

4175
02:09:18,861 --> 02:09:19,495
prescribed conditions no one

4176
02:09:19,495 --> 02:09:21,130
zoning district are permitted.

4177
02:09:21,130 --> 02:09:21,697
However, the plan prohibits

4178
02:09:21,697 --> 02:09:23,966
certain uses such as car

4179
02:09:23,966 --> 02:09:25,966
washes, drive thrus,

4180
02:09:26,902 --> 02:09:27,503
restaurants, bars, vehicle

4181
02:09:27,503 --> 02:09:29,903
sales, gas stations, data

4182
02:09:30,272 --> 02:09:30,839
centers, parking lots and other

4183
02:09:30,839 --> 02:09:33,239
more noxious uses and

4184
02:09:33,343 --> 02:09:35,743
undisturbed undisturbed class a

4185
02:09:36,613 --> 02:09:37,213
landscape yard with an eight

4186
02:09:37,213 --> 02:09:39,815
foot fence will be installed

4187
02:09:39,815 --> 02:09:41,684
along the boundary with the

4188
02:09:41,684 --> 02:09:42,351
adjacent neighborhood one

4189
02:09:42,351 --> 02:09:44,287
zoning the plan is in alignment

4190
02:09:44,287 --> 02:09:44,887
with the policy map and is

4191
02:09:44,887 --> 02:09:45,488
consistent with the goals and

4192
02:09:45,488 --> 02:09:47,290
policies of the west middle

4193
02:09:47,290 --> 02:09:47,890
community area plan staff

4194
02:09:47,890 --> 02:09:50,930
recommends approval of this

4195
02:09:50,930 --> 02:09:52,395
petition as again as consistent

4196
02:09:52,395 --> 02:09:53,263
with the plan and the policy

4197
02:09:53,263 --> 02:09:56,466
map and it also reduces the

4198
02:09:56,466 --> 02:09:57,330
intensity of the previous

4199
02:09:57,330 --> 02:09:59,369
entitlements under the I to

4200
02:09:59,369 --> 02:10:01,769
district while maintaining the

4201
02:10:01,871 --> 02:10:02,605
buffer and screening standards.

4202
02:10:02,605 --> 02:10:03,139
I'm happy to take any questions

4203
02:10:03,139 --> 02:10:05,108
following the petitioners

4204
02:10:05,108 --> 02:10:05,441
presentation.

4205
02:10:05,441 --> 02:10:05,742
All right.

4206
02:10:05,742 --> 02:10:07,711
Thank you.

4207
02:10:07,711 --> 02:10:08,278
Thanks again.

4208
02:10:08,278 --> 02:10:10,580
Lisa thompson, land use

4209
02:10:10,580 --> 02:10:11,315
consultant with more than been

4210
02:10:11,315 --> 02:10:12,150
out more than we now and happy

4211
02:10:12,150 --> 02:10:14,117
to be here tonight on behalf of

4212
02:10:14,117 --> 02:10:16,152
the sara moseley team our staff

4213
02:10:16,152 --> 02:10:16,819
describe this is actually a

4214
02:10:16,819 --> 02:10:19,389
down zoning it brings the site

4215
02:10:19,389 --> 02:10:19,889
into alignment with the current

4216
02:10:19,889 --> 02:10:21,889
ordinance and maintains

4217
02:10:23,293 --> 02:10:23,626
consistency with the adopted

4218
02:10:23,626 --> 02:10:25,626
land use plan.

4219
02:10:26,130 --> 02:10:28,365
Again, happy to have staff

4220
02:10:28,365 --> 02:10:30,765
support and no outstanding

4221
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:31,602
issues and I'd be happy to

4222
02:10:31,602 --> 02:10:34,200
answer any questions any

4223
02:10:34,738 --> 02:10:37,400
comment during none is there

4224
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:39,409
emotional close public hearing

4225
02:10:39,409 --> 02:10:42,546
so moved seconded all in favor

4226
02:10:42,546 --> 02:10:42,813
raise hands any oppose that is

4227
02:10:42,813 --> 02:10:43,314
unanimous.

4228
02:10:43,314 --> 02:10:45,349
Thank you MS. Thompson.

4229
02:10:45,349 --> 02:10:48,949
We will advance to item number

4230
02:10:50,187 --> 02:10:52,187
26 petition number 2026 zero 19

4231
02:10:53,223 --> 02:10:53,490
by acr road development

4232
02:10:53,490 --> 02:10:55,490
services.

4233
02:10:57,628 --> 02:10:58,328
>> it's approximately 22.89

4234
02:10:58,328 --> 02:11:01,132
acres located north of morehead

4235
02:11:01,132 --> 02:11:04,732
road west of stone lane and

4236
02:11:05,369 --> 02:11:08,105
east of old holland road in the

4237
02:11:08,105 --> 02:11:08,372
80 closest to MS. Johnson's

4238
02:11:08,372 --> 02:11:10,372
district.

4239
02:11:11,675 --> 02:11:14,110
The site is currently zoned as

4240
02:11:14,110 --> 02:11:16,411
neighborhood one, a and

4241
02:11:17,148 --> 02:11:17,782
proposed zoning is

4242
02:11:17,782 --> 02:11:20,182
manufacturing and logistics to

4243
02:11:20,718 --> 02:11:22,718
conditional staff recommends

4244
02:11:23,388 --> 02:11:24,880
approval of this petition upon

4245
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,560
a resolution of outstanding

4246
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:28,560
issues.

4247
02:11:28,959 --> 02:11:29,660
No no speakers are sign up to

4248
02:11:29,660 --> 02:11:31,695
speak in opposition so after

4249
02:11:31,695 --> 02:11:32,329
staff's presentation MR. Floyd

4250
02:11:32,329 --> 02:11:34,266
you will have three minutes.

4251
02:11:34,266 --> 02:11:34,633
thank you.

4252
02:11:34,633 --> 02:11:36,633
>> thank you.

4253
02:11:37,469 --> 02:11:39,904
This site is just under 23

4254
02:11:39,904 --> 02:11:40,738
acres located along morehead

4255
02:11:40,738 --> 02:11:42,840
road east of old holland road

4256
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:43,575
and west of stolen.

4257
02:11:43,575 --> 02:11:46,575
This is along the conveyors

4258
02:11:48,579 --> 02:11:51,550
county line and an area where

4259
02:11:51,550 --> 02:11:52,184
we have some residential but in

4260
02:11:52,184 --> 02:11:54,184
existing industrial facilities

4261
02:11:54,353 --> 02:11:56,988
that this would be an expansion

4262
02:11:56,988 --> 02:11:58,220
of currently in a neighborhood

4263
02:11:58,220 --> 02:12:00,992
one a and it is asking to go to

4264
02:12:00,992 --> 02:12:03,328
be manufacturing logistics to

4265
02:12:03,328 --> 02:12:03,861
conditionals and in district

4266
02:12:03,861 --> 02:12:06,261
history this would be

4267
02:12:06,464 --> 02:12:07,990
considered out of alignment

4268
02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:09,501
with the policy map which does

4269
02:12:09,501 --> 02:12:11,603
call for the neighborhood.

4270
02:12:11,603 --> 02:12:12,304
One place type at this site.

4271
02:12:12,304 --> 02:12:14,439
>> the proposal itself calls

4272
02:12:14,439 --> 02:12:14,907
for industrial uses which MAY

4273
02:12:14,907 --> 02:12:16,907
include manufacturing

4274
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:18,577
fabrication and shop research

4275
02:12:18,577 --> 02:12:20,977
and development among other

4276
02:12:21,460 --> 02:12:23,810
uses that are permitted and

4277
02:12:23,810 --> 02:12:23,949
mailed to district.

4278
02:12:23,949 --> 02:12:26,170
>> all of those uses would be

4279
02:12:26,170 --> 02:12:26,618
fully enclosed though and it

4280
02:12:26,618 --> 02:12:28,954
also lists a number of

4281
02:12:28,954 --> 02:12:31,954
prohibited uses so it really

4282
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:33,959
tries to limit the number of

4283
02:12:33,959 --> 02:12:34,660
amount to uses on the site

4284
02:12:34,660 --> 02:12:37,162
trying to be sensitive to the

4285
02:12:37,162 --> 02:12:38,564
fact that it is in an area that

4286
02:12:38,564 --> 02:12:40,964
has some neighborhood one

4287
02:12:41,133 --> 02:12:41,800
zoning even if there aren't

4288
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:43,869
other existing neighborhood one

4289
02:12:43,869 --> 02:12:46,539
uses in the area in terms of

4290
02:12:46,539 --> 02:12:47,239
our landscaping improvements

4291
02:12:47,239 --> 02:12:49,639
provides a 100 foot class

4292
02:12:49,975 --> 02:12:52,975
landscape yard as well as 25

4293
02:12:53,178 --> 02:12:55,514
foot class b landscaping yards

4294
02:12:55,514 --> 02:12:58,170
that's along old holland road

4295
02:12:58,170 --> 02:12:58,750
and the morehead road frontages

4296
02:12:58,750 --> 02:13:01,153
in terms of streetscape access

4297
02:13:01,153 --> 02:13:03,656
to the site would be the old

4298
02:13:03,656 --> 02:13:06,225
holland road and team hendrick

4299
02:13:06,225 --> 02:13:06,893
way and provides a for planting

4300
02:13:06,893 --> 02:13:09,893
strip and 12 foot wide shared

4301
02:13:10,596 --> 02:13:11,364
use path along moorehead road

4302
02:13:11,364 --> 02:13:14,330
and 12 for shared use path also

4303
02:13:14,330 --> 02:13:17,200
along old holland road it is

4304
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:17,570
considered and consistent with

4305
02:13:17,570 --> 02:13:19,506
the north middle and outer

4306
02:13:19,506 --> 02:13:20,173
community area plan.

4307
02:13:20,173 --> 02:13:20,674
It's not quite in alignment

4308
02:13:20,674 --> 02:13:22,642
with that neighborhood.

4309
02:13:22,642 --> 02:13:25,912
One place type as I noted but

4310
02:13:25,912 --> 02:13:28,481
it MAY facilitate that priority

4311
02:13:28,481 --> 02:13:29,349
goal eight by providing jobs

4312
02:13:29,349 --> 02:13:32,170
for the area as part of the

4313
02:13:32,170 --> 02:13:32,552
expansion of the motor sports

4314
02:13:32,552 --> 02:13:34,952
industry in the hendricks

4315
02:13:37,570 --> 02:13:37,657
facility, staff recommends

4316
02:13:37,657 --> 02:13:40,570
approval this petition upon

4317
02:13:40,493 --> 02:13:42,893
resolution of our outstanding

4318
02:13:43,663 --> 02:13:45,932
issues in a more rural area of

4319
02:13:45,932 --> 02:13:48,167
charlotte c t j and it is an

4320
02:13:48,167 --> 02:13:48,868
expansion of an existing use

4321
02:13:48,868 --> 02:13:51,371
that we have on this site

4322
02:13:51,371 --> 02:13:54,341
though in the adjacent county

4323
02:13:54,341 --> 02:13:56,610
although it's in adjacent to

4324
02:13:56,610 --> 02:13:57,110
neighborhood y in place type it

4325
02:13:57,110 --> 02:13:59,110
is providing adequate

4326
02:13:59,513 --> 02:14:02,349
sensitivity not only by the

4327
02:14:02,349 --> 02:14:02,982
limitation of uses on the site

4328
02:14:02,982 --> 02:14:04,818
but by noting that all uses

4329
02:14:04,818 --> 02:14:05,850
that would occur would be fully

4330
02:14:05,850 --> 02:14:05,652
enclosed.

4331
02:14:05,652 --> 02:14:07,887
They also have those large

4332
02:14:07,887 --> 02:14:10,287
landscape yards is typically

4333
02:14:10,590 --> 02:14:11,325
stipulated by the ordinance so

4334
02:14:11,325 --> 02:14:13,327
we have a couple of outstanding

4335
02:14:13,327 --> 02:14:16,297
issues the clean up including

4336
02:14:16,297 --> 02:14:16,930
potentially enhancing those

4337
02:14:16,930 --> 02:14:18,665
class b landscape yards which

4338
02:14:18,665 --> 02:14:21,100
are of a 25 foot wide ones.

4339
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:21,635
But we think that we can find

4340
02:14:21,635 --> 02:14:23,737
resolution of those having to

4341
02:14:23,737 --> 02:14:24,710
take any questions following

4342
02:14:24,710 --> 02:14:24,304
your comments.

4343
02:14:24,304 --> 02:14:26,304
>> okay.

4344
02:14:27,700 --> 02:14:30,700
MR. Floyd thank you, john

4345
02:14:30,110 --> 02:14:30,644
forward again here on behalf of

4346
02:14:30,644 --> 02:14:32,246
accuro development services and

4347
02:14:32,246 --> 02:14:33,140
joined by greg hartley with

4348
02:14:33,140 --> 02:14:35,216
acro I was here in case we have

4349
02:14:35,216 --> 02:14:35,983
any questions.

4350
02:14:35,983 --> 02:14:38,185
Don't have a lot to add for ms.

4351
02:14:38,185 --> 02:14:38,919
cramer's presentation.

4352
02:14:38,919 --> 02:14:39,953
We certainly appreciate having

4353
02:14:39,953 --> 02:14:42,953
staff support on this one.

4354
02:14:45,525 --> 02:14:46,193
Just really quick again this is

4355
02:14:46,193 --> 02:14:48,290
a tier one conditional rezoning

4356
02:14:48,290 --> 02:14:48,696
that really is seeking to

4357
02:14:48,696 --> 02:14:51,960
expand the hendrick motorsports

4358
02:14:51,465 --> 02:14:51,699
campus most of which is in

4359
02:14:51,699 --> 02:14:53,699
county.

4360
02:14:54,335 --> 02:14:54,635
This property is right on the

4361
02:14:54,635 --> 02:14:56,635
county line.

4362
02:14:57,738 --> 02:14:59,506
You going to go to immelt to to

4363
02:14:59,506 --> 02:15:01,906
allow flexibility with future

4364
02:15:02,420 --> 02:15:05,420
motorsports r&d and development

4365
02:15:05,113 --> 02:15:05,747
but what we've done there is

4366
02:15:05,747 --> 02:15:08,147
included conditions to really

4367
02:15:08,182 --> 02:15:08,716
kind of dial that back.

4368
02:15:08,716 --> 02:15:09,383
I mean hendrick wants

4369
02:15:09,383 --> 02:15:10,918
flexibility to be able to do

4370
02:15:10,918 --> 02:15:11,585
what they need to do but then

4371
02:15:11,585 --> 02:15:13,521
include a bunch of conditions

4372
02:15:13,521 --> 02:15:16,521
to eliminate the possibility of

4373
02:15:16,991 --> 02:15:17,558
a need to call it industrial

4374
02:15:17,558 --> 02:15:17,825
type impacts on neighboring

4375
02:15:17,825 --> 02:15:19,825
property.

4376
02:15:19,894 --> 02:15:22,164
So things like we have a

4377
02:15:22,164 --> 02:15:24,432
condition that all the primary

4378
02:15:24,432 --> 02:15:25,000
uses onsite have to be indoor

4379
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:25,267
so everything has to be

4380
02:15:25,267 --> 02:15:27,267
enclosed.

4381
02:15:27,902 --> 02:15:28,536
We've eliminated a whole bunch

4382
02:15:28,536 --> 02:15:29,137
of uses that are things that

4383
02:15:29,137 --> 02:15:30,905
hendrick just really doesn't

4384
02:15:30,905 --> 02:15:33,408
have any need to do.

4385
02:15:33,408 --> 02:15:34,142
This property is technically in

4386
02:15:34,142 --> 02:15:34,409
the t j it's not in the city of

4387
02:15:34,409 --> 02:15:36,770
charlotte.

4388
02:15:36,770 --> 02:15:36,711
We've included a condition that

4389
02:15:36,711 --> 02:15:37,440
says we'll comply with all the

4390
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:38,881
requirements.

4391
02:15:38,881 --> 02:15:41,881
The city of charlotte's noise

4392
02:15:42,384 --> 02:15:42,884
ordinance and then as as MS.

4393
02:15:42,884 --> 02:15:43,452
Cramer mentioned there's

4394
02:15:43,452 --> 02:15:45,520
enhanced buffers and things

4395
02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:47,956
along that one edge and we'll

4396
02:15:47,956 --> 02:15:48,790
continue to have discussions

4397
02:15:48,790 --> 02:15:51,790
about the 25 foot class b

4398
02:15:53,461 --> 02:15:53,962
buffer although it wasn't

4399
02:15:53,962 --> 02:15:54,262
included in the initial

4400
02:15:54,262 --> 02:15:56,262
application.

4401
02:15:56,465 --> 02:15:58,500
>> the petitioner has agreed to

4402
02:15:58,500 --> 02:16:00,602
include a data center as one of

4403
02:16:00,602 --> 02:16:01,270
the excluded uses on this site

4404
02:16:01,270 --> 02:16:04,390
so that's not something bi has

4405
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:04,673
to worry about and with that

4406
02:16:04,673 --> 02:16:06,208
happy to answer any questions

4407
02:16:06,208 --> 02:16:06,475
that you all have.

4408
02:16:06,475 --> 02:16:08,475
Okay.

4409
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:11,146
MS. Johnson I just wanted to

4410
02:16:11,146 --> 02:16:11,846
thank the petitioner for for

4411
02:16:11,846 --> 02:16:14,283
adding those additional and for

4412
02:16:14,283 --> 02:16:14,917
the attention and

4413
02:16:14,917 --> 02:16:17,317
responsibility to the community

4414
02:16:17,620 --> 02:16:19,755
moved to close second all in

4415
02:16:19,755 --> 02:16:22,224
favor of closing public hearing

4416
02:16:22,224 --> 02:16:22,491
raise hands any oppose that is

4417
02:16:22,491 --> 02:16:24,491
unanimous.

4418
02:16:24,726 --> 02:16:26,995
Thank you MR. Floyd.

4419
02:16:26,995 --> 02:16:31,195
We will move on to item number

4420
02:16:32,168 --> 02:16:32,869
27 petition number 2026 020 by

4421
02:16:32,869 --> 02:16:35,869
two will occur pappas it's

4422
02:16:35,904 --> 02:16:37,904
approximate lee 10.9 acres

4423
02:16:38,174 --> 02:16:40,843
located on the east side of

4424
02:16:40,843 --> 02:16:41,443
carmel collins boulevard

4425
02:16:41,443 --> 02:16:43,843
commons boulevard pardon me

4426
02:16:45,470 --> 02:16:47,816
south of pine ville matthews

4427
02:16:47,816 --> 02:16:50,816
road and north of bennington

4428
02:16:50,987 --> 02:16:51,688
road and MR. Dirks district the

4429
02:16:51,688 --> 02:16:53,790
site is currently zoned mixed

4430
02:16:53,790 --> 02:16:55,790
use development district

4431
02:16:57,426 --> 02:16:59,428
optional and the proposed

4432
02:16:59,428 --> 02:17:02,428
zoning is mixed use development

4433
02:17:02,865 --> 02:17:03,432
district optional site plan

4434
02:17:03,432 --> 02:17:05,432
amendment staff recommends

4435
02:17:06,236 --> 02:17:06,736
approval of this petition and

4436
02:17:06,736 --> 02:17:09,136
we have no opposition.

4437
02:17:09,472 --> 02:17:10,390
So MR. Brown you will have

4438
02:17:10,390 --> 02:17:10,373
three minutes after staff's

4439
02:17:10,373 --> 02:17:12,800
presentation.

4440
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:13,943
Thank you.

4441
02:17:13,943 --> 02:17:16,779
The site is 10.9 acres located

4442
02:17:16,779 --> 02:17:17,346
on the east side of carmel

4443
02:17:17,346 --> 02:17:19,746
commons boulevard south of

4444
02:17:19,816 --> 02:17:22,216
pineapple matthews road and

4445
02:17:22,318 --> 02:17:23,190
north of bennington road.

4446
02:17:23,190 --> 02:17:25,689
This is in the carmel

4447
02:17:25,689 --> 02:17:27,689
activities center community

4448
02:17:28,191 --> 02:17:28,792
activity center site is

4449
02:17:28,792 --> 02:17:31,940
currently developed with an

4450
02:17:31,940 --> 02:17:33,396
office building and associated

4451
02:17:33,396 --> 02:17:36,533
parking and surrounded by a mix

4452
02:17:36,533 --> 02:17:39,335
of uses commercial office as

4453
02:17:39,335 --> 02:17:41,735
well as multifamily residential

4454
02:17:42,773 --> 02:17:45,173
current zoning which was

4455
02:17:45,309 --> 02:17:47,709
established by a 2022 petition

4456
02:17:48,450 --> 02:17:48,545
is mud optional this is a site

4457
02:17:48,545 --> 02:17:50,945
plan amendment with the

4458
02:17:53,182 --> 02:17:53,817
proposed zoning of mud osp the

4459
02:17:53,817 --> 02:17:56,217
2040 policy map recommends the

4460
02:17:56,453 --> 02:17:58,853
community activity center place

4461
02:17:59,256 --> 02:18:02,256
type and the proposal would

4462
02:18:03,961 --> 02:18:06,361
allow for 360 residential units

4463
02:18:06,930 --> 02:18:07,698
across both development areas

4464
02:18:07,698 --> 02:18:10,330
on either side of the public

4465
02:18:10,330 --> 02:18:12,803
street you see on your screen

4466
02:18:12,803 --> 02:18:13,403
would preserve an option to

4467
02:18:13,403 --> 02:18:15,803
maintain the existing office

4468
02:18:17,475 --> 02:18:18,108
building would remove

4469
02:18:18,108 --> 02:18:20,508
entitlements for 10,000ft of

4470
02:18:21,212 --> 02:18:21,812
medical office and 40 700ft of

4471
02:18:21,812 --> 02:18:24,515
coffee shop with drive thru

4472
02:18:24,515 --> 02:18:27,251
uses of from this area but

4473
02:18:27,251 --> 02:18:27,818
would allow for some

4474
02:18:27,818 --> 02:18:29,818
development flexibility to

4475
02:18:30,220 --> 02:18:32,220
spread out those 360

4476
02:18:35,590 --> 02:18:35,593
residential units existing or

4477
02:18:35,593 --> 02:18:37,593
completed transportation

4478
02:18:37,929 --> 02:18:40,329
commitments have been removed

4479
02:18:40,431 --> 02:18:42,733
from the conditional notes

4480
02:18:42,733 --> 02:18:44,969
would require a minimum of 80

4481
02:18:44,969 --> 02:18:47,400
500ft of open space across

4482
02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:48,839
both development areas with a

4483
02:18:48,839 --> 02:18:50,908
minimum of 30 500ft of open

4484
02:18:50,908 --> 02:18:51,760
space in each development area

4485
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:53,760
.

4486
02:18:54,412 --> 02:18:55,113
>> the petition is consistent

4487
02:18:55,113 --> 02:18:58,113
with the south middle community

4488
02:18:59,584 --> 02:19:00,251
area plan and in alignment with

4489
02:19:00,251 --> 02:19:02,386
the 2040 policy map though it

4490
02:19:02,386 --> 02:19:03,870
does not directly facilitate

4491
02:19:03,870 --> 02:19:05,487
any priority or comprehensive

4492
02:19:05,723 --> 02:19:08,123
plan goals staff recommends

4493
02:19:08,793 --> 02:19:11,296
approval this petition it would

4494
02:19:11,296 --> 02:19:11,930
maintain entitlements of the

4495
02:19:11,930 --> 02:19:13,965
previously approved plan while

4496
02:19:13,965 --> 02:19:14,666
allowing for residential uses

4497
02:19:14,666 --> 02:19:16,835
to be spread across two

4498
02:19:16,835 --> 02:19:17,402
development areas.

4499
02:19:17,402 --> 02:19:17,769
I'll turn it over to the

4500
02:19:17,769 --> 02:19:19,769
petitioner team.

4501
02:19:20,405 --> 02:19:21,139
thank you MR. Brown.

4502
02:19:21,139 --> 02:19:23,108
>> you MAY have heard him

4503
02:19:23,108 --> 02:19:23,741
council members and committee

4504
02:19:23,741 --> 02:19:25,142
members colin brown on behalf

4505
02:19:25,142 --> 02:19:25,910
of wilbur pappas creative

4506
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:28,880
review from joe this is a

4507
02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:31,280
continued redevelopment of an

4508
02:19:31,316 --> 02:19:33,818
early eighty's office park that

4509
02:19:33,818 --> 02:19:34,352
just kind of fell out and so

4510
02:19:34,352 --> 02:19:36,752
very successful mixed use

4511
02:19:36,788 --> 02:19:37,422
redevelopment as joe mentioned

4512
02:19:37,422 --> 02:19:39,657
this is really just a tweak to

4513
02:19:39,657 --> 02:19:40,224
provide a little more

4514
02:19:40,224 --> 02:19:42,624
flexibility, almost a down

4515
02:19:43,270 --> 02:19:43,729
zoning I will say on our

4516
02:19:43,729 --> 02:19:47,333
revised plan we we are going to

4517
02:19:47,333 --> 02:19:49,668
adjust from 360 units to 366

4518
02:19:49,668 --> 02:19:50,268
but very straightforward.

4519
02:19:50,268 --> 02:19:50,936
We had attendees at our

4520
02:19:50,936 --> 02:19:52,571
community meetings and business

4521
02:19:52,571 --> 02:19:52,972
owners they were very pleased

4522
02:19:52,972 --> 02:19:54,972
with the changes.

4523
02:19:55,273 --> 02:19:58,109
>> okay MR. Driggs so I just

4524
02:19:58,109 --> 02:20:00,912
want to note that right here if

4525
02:20:00,912 --> 02:20:01,547
you look at this is where I had

4526
02:20:01,547 --> 02:20:04,500
my bicycle accident about ten

4527
02:20:04,500 --> 02:20:06,450
years ago oh and

4528
02:20:07,152 --> 02:20:07,820
notwithstanding that I expect

4529
02:20:07,820 --> 02:20:10,722
I'll be supporting this and I

4530
02:20:10,722 --> 02:20:11,156
will move to close the hearing

4531
02:20:11,156 --> 02:20:11,390
if I get a comment.

4532
02:20:11,390 --> 02:20:12,858
>> okay.

4533
02:20:12,858 --> 02:20:13,492
All in favor closing public

4534
02:20:13,492 --> 02:20:16,492
hearing raise hands with bike

4535
02:20:16,528 --> 02:20:18,564
lane any any oppose that is

4536
02:20:18,564 --> 02:20:19,432
unanimous.

4537
02:20:19,432 --> 02:20:23,632
Okay so we are at our final

4538
02:20:23,636 --> 02:20:26,360
item tonight item number 28

4539
02:20:27,406 --> 02:20:27,606
petition number 2026 0 to 1 by

4540
02:20:27,606 --> 02:20:29,606
hines.

4541
02:20:29,808 --> 02:20:31,808
>> so proximately 1.63 acres

4542
02:20:32,944 --> 02:20:35,344
located south of east

4543
02:20:35,614 --> 02:20:38,614
westinghouse drive east of blue

4544
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:41,454
central road and west of prompt

4545
02:20:41,454 --> 02:20:41,721
road in councilmember mayo's

4546
02:20:41,721 --> 02:20:43,721
district.

4547
02:20:44,357 --> 02:20:46,859
The site is currently zoned as

4548
02:20:46,859 --> 02:20:47,493
urban residential commercial

4549
02:20:47,493 --> 02:20:49,893
conditional and the proposed

4550
02:20:50,496 --> 02:20:52,896
zoning is urban residential

4551
02:20:53,733 --> 02:20:55,733
commercial conditional site

4552
02:20:56,269 --> 02:20:58,669
plan amendment staff recommends

4553
02:20:59,380 --> 02:20:59,572
approval of this petition upon

4554
02:20:59,572 --> 02:21:01,572
resolution of outstanding

4555
02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:04,408
issues and after staff's

4556
02:21:04,510 --> 02:21:06,479
presentation MR. Thompson will

4557
02:21:06,479 --> 02:21:06,779
join us for three minutes.

4558
02:21:06,779 --> 02:21:08,779
Thank you.

4559
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:09,882
Thank you.

4560
02:21:09,882 --> 02:21:12,180
This site is 1.63 acres located

4561
02:21:12,180 --> 02:21:14,821
on the south side of

4562
02:21:14,821 --> 02:21:15,489
westinghouse drive east of blue

4563
02:21:15,489 --> 02:21:17,624
central road and west of krupp

4564
02:21:17,624 --> 02:21:19,624
road.

4565
02:21:19,959 --> 02:21:20,827
The site has been used most

4566
02:21:20,827 --> 02:21:23,530
recently as a staging area for

4567
02:21:23,530 --> 02:21:25,665
construction of the neighboring

4568
02:21:25,665 --> 02:21:27,665
townhome community.

4569
02:21:28,340 --> 02:21:30,434
Traditional residential uses to

4570
02:21:31,138 --> 02:21:31,772
the south and east with

4571
02:21:31,772 --> 02:21:33,740
commercial and industrial uses

4572
02:21:33,740 --> 02:21:35,740
across westinghouse boulevard

4573
02:21:37,770 --> 02:21:39,579
to the north ern zoning as you

4574
02:21:39,579 --> 02:21:40,280
are see conditional.

4575
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:42,782
This is also a site plan

4576
02:21:42,782 --> 02:21:46,870
amendment where you are see as

4577
02:21:46,870 --> 02:21:48,422
a proposed 20 40 policy map

4578
02:21:48,422 --> 02:21:50,822
recommends the neighborhood to

4579
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:53,594
place type would allow for to

4580
02:21:53,594 --> 02:21:55,594
development of nonresidential

4581
02:21:58,565 --> 02:22:01,100
uses 14,500ft of gross floor

4582
02:22:01,100 --> 02:22:03,336
area some prohibited uses which

4583
02:22:03,336 --> 02:22:05,736
include drive through windows

4584
02:22:06,240 --> 02:22:06,841
automotive sales, automotive,

4585
02:22:06,841 --> 02:22:08,841
automobile serviceable repair

4586
02:22:09,210 --> 02:22:11,210
and gas stations.

4587
02:22:11,779 --> 02:22:12,313
There is a condition that if

4588
02:22:12,313 --> 02:22:14,713
your restaurant use is

4589
02:22:15,449 --> 02:22:17,849
developed that hours of

4590
02:22:19,186 --> 02:22:21,322
operation could not go past 11

4591
02:22:21,322 --> 02:22:21,956
P.M. There's a 50 foot wide

4592
02:22:21,956 --> 02:22:24,592
class c landscape yard with a

4593
02:22:24,592 --> 02:22:26,627
berm including a 50 foot wide

4594
02:22:26,627 --> 02:22:27,194
undisturbed buffer along the

4595
02:22:27,194 --> 02:22:29,194
southern property boundary

4596
02:22:29,530 --> 02:22:31,930
where adjacent to establish

4597
02:22:32,166 --> 02:22:34,166
single family residential.

4598
02:22:34,969 --> 02:22:35,703
The petition is consistent with

4599
02:22:35,703 --> 02:22:38,105
the south myrtle community area

4600
02:22:38,105 --> 02:22:38,740
plan and in alignment with 2040

4601
02:22:38,740 --> 02:22:40,942
policy map recommendation for

4602
02:22:40,942 --> 02:22:43,411
the neighborhood to place type

4603
02:22:43,411 --> 02:22:43,945
of partition MAY facilitate

4604
02:22:43,945 --> 02:22:46,345
goal one ten minute

4605
02:22:46,447 --> 02:22:47,480
neighborhoods by providing

4606
02:22:47,480 --> 02:22:49,183
amenities, goods and services

4607
02:22:49,183 --> 02:22:51,583
to the surrounding community.

4608
02:22:52,253 --> 02:22:52,887
Staff recommends approval of

4609
02:22:52,887 --> 02:22:54,988
this petition upon resolution

4610
02:22:54,988 --> 02:22:55,589
of outstanding issues related

4611
02:22:55,589 --> 02:22:57,989
to transportation and the

4612
02:22:58,930 --> 02:22:58,894
environment.

4613
02:22:58,894 --> 02:23:00,862
The petition is a site plan

4614
02:23:00,862 --> 02:23:01,463
amendment requesting to amend

4615
02:23:01,463 --> 02:23:04,265
permitted uses and site plan

4616
02:23:04,265 --> 02:23:04,832
layout without increasing the

4617
02:23:04,832 --> 02:23:06,634
maximum square footage of

4618
02:23:06,634 --> 02:23:08,634
developable area area

4619
02:23:09,570 --> 02:23:09,904
established in the original

4620
02:23:09,904 --> 02:23:11,904
approved plan.

4621
02:23:12,707 --> 02:23:13,740
I'll turn over to the

4622
02:23:13,740 --> 02:23:14,543
petitioner team.

4623
02:23:14,543 --> 02:23:14,910
>> okay westampton you have

4624
02:23:14,910 --> 02:23:15,210
three minutes.

4625
02:23:15,210 --> 02:23:15,777
Thank you.

4626
02:23:15,777 --> 02:23:18,113
We have thompson land use

4627
02:23:18,113 --> 02:23:18,413
consultant moore with moore and

4628
02:23:18,413 --> 02:23:19,470
van allen.

4629
02:23:19,470 --> 02:23:20,748
Happy to be here tonight on

4630
02:23:20,748 --> 02:23:23,585
behalf of hines to close out

4631
02:23:23,585 --> 02:23:26,321
this evening this is very

4632
02:23:26,321 --> 02:23:28,656
limited narrowly focused of

4633
02:23:28,656 --> 02:23:29,357
site plan amendment rezoning it

4634
02:23:29,357 --> 02:23:31,927
really is to allow more

4635
02:23:31,927 --> 02:23:32,394
flexibility to attract the

4636
02:23:32,394 --> 02:23:34,363
neighborhood servicing

4637
02:23:34,363 --> 02:23:36,763
businesses on the site.

4638
02:23:37,990 --> 02:23:37,699
We're pleased to have staff

4639
02:23:37,699 --> 02:23:39,501
report will address any

4640
02:23:39,501 --> 02:23:42,304
outstanding issues and I'll be

4641
02:23:42,304 --> 02:23:42,571
happy to answer any questions.

4642
02:23:42,571 --> 02:23:44,571
>> okay.

4643
02:23:45,600 --> 02:23:45,207
Any comment voted close to

4644
02:23:45,207 --> 02:23:47,207
here.

4645
02:23:47,876 --> 02:23:48,444
>> second all in favor of

4646
02:23:48,444 --> 02:23:50,312
closing public hearing raise

4647
02:23:50,312 --> 02:23:50,646
hands any opposed.

4648
02:23:50,646 --> 02:23:52,646
>> okay.

4649
02:23:53,415 --> 02:23:53,983
That is unanimous.

4650
02:23:53,983 --> 02:23:55,517
Thank you, MR. Thompson.

4651
02:23:55,517 --> 02:23:57,319
well, to adjourn second we have

4652
02:23:57,319 --> 02:24:00,589
a motion to adjourn and a

4653
02:24:00,589 --> 02:24:04,189
second it is 750 for the sun