[1:19:26] ,it's [1:20:42] a strange man [1:21:42] . [1:21:45] >> we're back. [1:21:53] >> life with them with the feet [1:21:53] . [1:21:53] Okay. [1:21:55] All right. [1:21:56] Welcome back to the charlotte [1:21:56] city council meeting. [1:21:58] Our next candidate is mayor pro [1:22:03] tem james mitchell. [1:22:06] Tonight from inside out and [1:22:09] look at that might well start [1:22:10] with you. [1:22:14] Well, this is my come this way [1:22:14] . [1:22:15] Start with you. [1:22:23] That way everyone can. [1:22:23] >> yeah. [1:22:25] Good afternoon, mayor pro tem [1:22:26] mitchell. [1:22:26] Good afternoon, council. [1:22:29] Welcome to the charlotte city [1:22:30] council interview for the [1:22:31] interim mayor position. [1:22:34] You will have 30 minutes in [1:22:34] total. [1:22:37] Each candidate each council [1:22:40] member will ask questions [1:22:42] that's been pre-prepared. [1:22:45] There MAY be a follow up to [1:22:45] those questions. [1:22:47] You will get a five minute [1:22:49] warning when your time is about [1:22:49] to expire. [1:22:51] You'll get a one minute warning [1:22:52] when you're running out of [1:22:52] time. [1:22:55] Finish your thought. [1:22:55] You don't have to stop or [1:22:57] probably finish your thought. [1:22:57] >> and then at the conclusion [1:23:00] you'll get a one minute closing [1:23:03] statement to the council. [1:23:04] We're going to start inside [1:23:04] out. [1:23:06] So we're going to start with [1:23:06] councilmember owens and then [1:23:09] we'll start with councilmember [1:23:09] anderson. [1:23:12] Once we complete that like [1:23:12] councilmember owens, the floor [1:23:14] is yours. [1:23:15] >> okay. [1:23:15] Thank you, councilmember [1:23:18] mitchell the recent rescission [1:23:20] of the I-77 project [1:23:21] recommendation reflected strong [1:23:23] public engagement and differing [1:23:24] perspectives about [1:23:24] transportation planning. [1:23:27] What do you believe should be [1:23:27] the next step in addressing [1:23:29] congestion and mobility [1:23:30] challenges along the I-77 [1:23:32] corridor? [1:23:33] And how would you as mayor [1:23:35] ensure the public is [1:23:36] meaningfully involved in the [1:23:36] process? [1:23:43] While I think that 77 is going [1:23:46] to take really strong [1:23:47] leadership and leadership from [1:23:49] not only me but for this tired [1:23:52] council, I think number one we [1:23:55] learn from what we did earlier [1:23:57] that the public was were not [1:24:00] involved or the public were not [1:24:03] made aware, not made aware of [1:24:03] what was actually going to [1:24:03] occur. [1:24:06] So as mayor if I'm fortunate be [1:24:08] me, I think the first thing we [1:24:11] we need to do is make sure we [1:24:11] have the right stakeholders in [1:24:13] the room. [1:24:14] What we need to do is make sure [1:24:16] this council is fully aware of [1:24:17] all the ramifications as it [1:24:20] relates to us, said michelle. [1:24:22] I think it was very clear that [1:24:25] the design was a big issue. [1:24:28] We have to address the design [1:24:28] to solve the traffic problem. [1:24:31] I think there was conversation [1:24:33] about community benefits and [1:24:36] community allocation. [1:24:37] We never explained articulated [1:24:39] to the neighbors what what [1:24:40] could be the benefits of that [1:24:43] community allocation. [1:24:45] I think we need to continue to [1:24:46] have a different dialog with [1:24:48] ncdot because immediately it [1:24:51] was a problem that we had to [1:24:52] face that the credibility with [1:24:55] laws the way ncdot handled this [1:24:57] project. [1:25:00] I will be the first one to tell [1:25:04] you we do have 77 traffic issue [1:25:06] how we do how we solve it is [1:25:07] going to have to be a [1:25:09] collaboration of this [1:25:10] community, this city council [1:25:13] and nc D.O.T. Come up with to [1:25:13] know the pros. [1:25:15] But let me talk about the tough [1:25:16] vote we had as council. [1:25:18] I think it was a 6 to 5 vote [1:25:21] and so I would not be in favor [1:25:23] of rescinding the rescinding. [1:25:27] It has to be a new model that [1:25:29] we put forth for this community [1:25:32] to solve this problem. [1:25:34] Councilmember drake's. [1:25:35] Good afternoon. [1:25:37] Good afternoon, COUNCILMAN. [1:25:38] >> in order to achieve a more [1:25:41] orderly council process, how [1:25:43] would you work outside of [1:25:44] meetings to help council [1:25:46] identify priorities and achieve [1:25:47] consensus? [1:25:49] >> okay, great. [1:25:52] >> so you know council member I [1:25:52] have to play to my strengths [1:25:55] and I'm a people person and I [1:25:57] believe having one on one [1:25:57] meetings with council members [1:25:59] on a monthly basis allow that [1:26:00] dialog and a lot of [1:26:02] communication and set what I [1:26:05] would call a new culture for us [1:26:08] a culture of collaboration, a [1:26:08] culture of understanding, a [1:26:11] culture of listening, having [1:26:12] different perspectives, having [1:26:14] debate is not wrong. [1:26:17] Diversity is our strong suit. [1:26:18] i think as a as a council [1:26:20] member and as a mayor I think [1:26:23] it's important that that door [1:26:25] stays open and it stays open [1:26:28] for a collective converse case [1:26:29] among us. [1:26:32] Our. [1:26:33] I'm one to truly believe in [1:26:34] doing a council meeting. [1:26:35] We should allow more [1:26:35] opportunities. [1:26:39] So to me mayor and council [1:26:39] topics should be the second and [1:26:42] fourth monday of the month. [1:26:45] I think when we talk about how [1:26:46] we're going to get the policy [1:26:48] and the things we want to [1:26:49] accomplish, we have to empower [1:26:51] our committees and make sure [1:26:53] our committees are doing the [1:26:56] real work which is policy. [1:26:59] I've been around a long time [1:27:01] and I'm and I'm would take what [1:27:02] I think the best practices and [1:27:05] the best practice I think to [1:27:07] lead is one by trust one [1:27:10] through collaboration and one [1:27:13] by building consensus. [1:27:13] Thank you. [1:27:15] Council member mayfield. [1:27:16] >> thank you. [1:27:18] Thank you so much for offering [1:27:21] yourself up for the position. [1:27:22] How do you plan to maintain [1:27:24] your employment and do this [1:27:27] role as it does take up a [1:27:27] significant amount of time? [1:27:27] >> thank you. [1:27:28] Councilor mayfield. [1:27:30] So council members I would say [1:27:32] since 1999 I've held two jobs. [1:27:35] I've been fortunate enough to [1:27:37] have a real job working for [1:27:38] some top companies like barton [1:27:41] mallow, R.J. Leeper, mcfarland [1:27:43] and the same time to be able to [1:27:46] do this job as a part time. [1:27:49] And so I've been fortunate that [1:27:50] my employees have seen value [1:27:52] allow me to serve. [1:27:56] and so I think being mayor of [1:27:56] the 14 applied to city I will [1:27:58] continue to have a job as [1:27:58] business developer for [1:28:01] mcfarland and I will continue [1:28:04] to prioritize make sure I get [1:28:04] my work done but more [1:28:06] importantly have the time and [1:28:07] energy I tell people where I [1:28:11] work to jobs one is 40 hours [1:28:13] for mcfarland the other the 70 [1:28:14] hours for the citizens of [1:28:19] charlotte. [1:28:22] Council member judy. [1:28:22] >> thank you. [1:28:24] Chair graham thank you. [1:28:27] Councilmember mitchell. [1:28:30] Charlotte is a growing city but [1:28:30] too often that growth is not [1:28:33] reaching everyone equally and [1:28:33] working families are being left [1:28:34] behind. [1:28:36] How would you balance being [1:28:38] business friendly and people [1:28:39] first and how would you ensure [1:28:41] that our private partners are [1:28:42] collaborative partners and [1:28:44] closing socioeconomic gaps? [1:28:45] >> thank you. [1:28:47] Councilmember jd so council [1:28:48] members I'm actually addressing [1:28:50] it at the town hall meeting I'm [1:28:50] having saturday JUNE 27th and [1:28:53] this MAY have neighborhood [1:28:56] presidents and and developer [1:28:57] saying the title is come be a [1:28:59] pro less developed charlotte [1:28:59] together. [1:29:02] I do think if we're talking [1:29:02] about some of the pillars who [1:29:05] have in our community it is [1:29:07] corporate it is policy makers [1:29:08] and is more important it's us [1:29:10] citizens and so we need to [1:29:13] continue to find ways to bring [1:29:13] them together. [1:29:15] And so part of the conversation [1:29:16] I want to hear from a citizen [1:29:18] what is smart growth? [1:29:20] What's your definition of [1:29:20] nimbyism? [1:29:23] And then what does community [1:29:24] benefits look from your [1:29:26] perspective? [1:29:27] And the conversation with [1:29:29] developers is about why are you [1:29:32] developing charlotte and what [1:29:35] does development mean to you? [1:29:38] Is it driven by profit or is it [1:29:38] driven by making charlotte [1:29:41] better community for all? [1:29:44] But let's be very clear what [1:29:46] our main responsibility has to [1:29:48] be and that's to the 879,000 [1:29:49] citizens currently right now to [1:29:51] call charlotte home. [1:29:52] So we need to continue to have [1:29:54] townhomes. [1:29:55] We need to continue to have [1:29:57] open dialog and making sure [1:30:02] that even our zoning and zoning [1:30:02] practice is a12 we need to [1:30:05] change because we hear from [1:30:05] neighbors a lot. [1:30:07] It's like the community meeting [1:30:08] is just a check mark. [1:30:11] It's not really. [1:30:13] And so I would be the first one [1:30:13] to tell you maybe we do defer [1:30:16] to tpd. [1:30:16] Let's look at our zoning [1:30:19] practices and make sure our [1:30:19] neighborhood voices are heard [1:30:21] and heard early. [1:30:25] I would tell you using my [1:30:25] experience 14 members a [1:30:28] district rep and now at large [1:30:30] it was always insulting to me [1:30:31] when a developer would come and [1:30:33] they'd never even pick up the [1:30:35] phone call the district rep. [1:30:38] I would nicely tell them you [1:30:39] recall councilmember johnson [1:30:41] COUNCILMAN J.D. Was in district [1:30:42] four and five. [1:30:44] And so there has to be a [1:30:45] different culture and a [1:30:47] different way that us citizens [1:30:50] feel like that we are working [1:30:50] on our behalf. [1:30:53] and I would tell you, [1:30:53] councilmember, we need to [1:30:55] provide what I call stability [1:30:58] among our citizens, what we [1:31:01] will support and what we will [1:31:01] not support. [1:31:04] And I think it a mixed shot a [1:31:04] better place for all us [1:31:07] citizens to call home. [1:31:10] >> councilmember johnson, thank [1:31:11] you. [1:31:13] And thank you for your [1:31:14] willingness to serve cast [1:31:18] members out. [1:31:22] >> what concerns, if any, do [1:31:22] you think the public might have [1:31:24] about your appointment as [1:31:25] interim mayor and how will you [1:31:28] address those concerns? [1:31:28] >> wow. [1:31:30] Okay. [1:31:32] I think the first concern he [1:31:33] MAY have does he still have [1:31:35] enough energy in the tank to do [1:31:40] this job for 18 months and that [1:31:43] I would say yes, I do. [1:31:45] You know, COUNCILMAN Johnson, [1:31:46] we are public servants so we're [1:31:48] not perfect service. [1:31:51] And so we are going to make [1:31:53] mistakes and at times we're [1:31:54] going to have different [1:31:56] different conversations with [1:31:57] some of us citizen. [1:31:59] I will hope to over my over my [1:32:02] years of serving the public, [1:32:02] there's been one thing that [1:32:05] people have felt toward me and [1:32:08] that is I love charlotte more [1:32:08] than myself. [1:32:10] >> okay. [1:32:11] >> so that leads to the second [1:32:11] part. [1:32:13] Additionally, what strengths [1:32:14] and experiences do you believe [1:32:16] make you well-suited for this [1:32:17] role? [1:32:17] >> and how many minutes I have [1:32:19] someone do this quickly. [1:32:22] Okay, 21 minutes left. [1:32:22] 21 minutes left. [1:32:24] So let's talk about the [1:32:25] leadership because I truly [1:32:27] think when you are prepared to [1:32:29] work in your community you must [1:32:30] do what I call leadership [1:32:32] development. [1:32:33] So I've been a graduate of [1:32:33] leadership charlotte, a [1:32:36] graduate of focus on leadership [1:32:38] graduate institute of political [1:32:39] leadership and have taken some [1:32:41] courses john f kennedy at [1:32:44] harvard and then lester. [1:32:45] Let's talk about just the track [1:32:45] record. [1:32:47] 14 years been a dish. [1:32:48] You grew up in district two and [1:32:52] now be coming back since 2015 [1:32:52] at large. [1:32:56] I love being the chili ta for [1:32:56] charlotte north carolina. [1:32:59] The city has given me so much [1:33:01] and it's my way of repairing [1:33:02] saying thank you for allowing [1:33:02] me to serve. [1:33:05] So councilmember johnson the [1:33:08] energizer bunny is still [1:33:08] energize. [1:33:11] I still think there there's [1:33:11] tough issues that we need to [1:33:14] handle but I think I want to do [1:33:15] it from a different way. [1:33:17] I want to do it for taking [1:33:17] advantage of all that [1:33:19] leadership does in this room. [1:33:20] We all bring different [1:33:22] leadership skills and I just [1:33:23] want to be the captain of the [1:33:26] team to make sure that our team [1:33:28] is performing at a level that [1:33:29] each and every one of you feel [1:33:31] like you learn something for [1:33:34] the 18 months of the leadership [1:33:35] that I could bring to the [1:33:37] mayor's office. [1:33:37] >> thank you. [1:33:43] Council member anderson quiet. [1:33:46] >> we're going inside out. [1:33:46] >> all right. [1:33:48] okay. [1:33:49] >> welcome, MR. Mitchell thank [1:33:49] you. [1:33:54] Council moments in your opinion [1:33:54] ,what is the biggest challenge [1:33:57] facing our city right now? [1:33:57] >> public safety. [1:33:59] Okay. [1:34:00] I think we heard loud and clear [1:34:02] COUNCILMAN Anderson, that this [1:34:05] community does not feel safe. [1:34:05] And so if that's your [1:34:08] perception, it will become your [1:34:08] reality. [1:34:10] So I'm glad the current mayor [1:34:11] decided we need to have our own [1:34:13] public safety committee which [1:34:13] you chair. [1:34:16] I do think public safety then [1:34:18] touches on economic development [1:34:18] . [1:34:21] It touches our neighborhoods. [1:34:24] It it is a selling car. [1:34:25] The people say I want to move [1:34:25] charlotte cars. [1:34:27] It's safe. [1:34:28] And so I do think I budget [1:34:30] speak very loudly our [1:34:33] priorities as relates to public [1:34:36] safety 10% pay increase but [1:34:38] also we hope that the funding [1:34:38] will allow the 320 full open [1:34:42] positions we have to be filled [1:34:44] and then I think public safety [1:34:46] also in a way a vision zero we [1:34:49] get too many crashes that taken [1:34:50] place in our community public [1:34:52] safety is we talked about [1:34:55] downtown and in providence at [1:34:56] 51 we talked about the newest [1:34:58] camera and rear camera. [1:34:59] Public safety has to be a [1:35:01] number one priority for the [1:35:02] next 18 months and I'm [1:35:04] fortunate enough to to be your [1:35:04] interim mayor. [1:35:07] I will make sure it's a top [1:35:09] priority for the next 18 [1:35:09] months. [1:35:11] Not saying it will the other [1:35:11] ones but you say the number one [1:35:14] is public safety quantum of a [1:35:16] mayor. [1:35:17] >> thank you. [1:35:17] Thank you. [1:35:19] Mayor pro tem how would you [1:35:19] ensure meetings are efficient [1:35:22] while still allowing robust [1:35:25] debate and discussion? [1:35:26] Oh no I this is a good one. [1:35:28] Okay so first of all let me say [1:35:31] somehow we need to take all the [1:35:33] work that the the workgroup is [1:35:35] doing on a meet on the meeting [1:35:39] decorum there's a lot of items [1:35:40] there that I think that would [1:35:42] need to come forward. [1:35:43] So I don't know do we forward [1:35:44] it to the bgr committee but it [1:35:45] is a lot of work so so let's [1:35:48] talk about how we need to [1:35:50] improve. [1:35:51] We need to start meetings on [1:35:53] time which as we can concern [1:35:53] that most of us might have [1:35:56] another job or other [1:35:56] obligation. [1:35:58] Secondly I think the immediate [1:35:59] needs to be a decorum the way [1:36:01] we respect one another when we [1:36:03] have conversation. [1:36:04] Thirdly, I hope we can get to [1:36:06] the point we have time [1:36:07] allocation how long we can [1:36:09] speak for. [1:36:12] >> I think it has we have to [1:36:15] change the decorum norm as [1:36:17] citizens coming up building I [1:36:18] don't mind the passion from [1:36:21] citizens but I think all of us [1:36:22] feel a little uncomfortable. [1:36:23] Has been borderline [1:36:26] disrespectful and so how how do [1:36:29] it one time embrace we want to [1:36:32] feel your passion but we need [1:36:32] you to respect the building you [1:36:34] in a talk to us and share your [1:36:37] ideas in a very professional [1:36:37] way. [1:36:39] You know one thing I will say [1:36:42] but our meetings we have to [1:36:45] find a way that we have [1:36:45] disagreement. [1:36:47] We do it professionally. [1:36:50] And so in my mind I would say [1:36:51] because I'm a basketball player [1:36:53] I think we need to have a [1:36:53] huddle. [1:36:56] So if you and I have a disagree [1:36:57] ,how can we help before the [1:37:00] scheduled meeting? [1:37:01] And so we clear that it's not a [1:37:02] personal attack but we come [1:37:05] from different perspectives and [1:37:08] so how do we embrace one [1:37:09] another differences that makes [1:37:14] the team better really want one [1:37:16] last idea and I want to just [1:37:18] throw this out because one [1:37:18] thing the meeting decorum [1:37:21] talked about is how we state [1:37:21] the ground rules for the [1:37:24] behavior we're going to accept [1:37:26] at the very beginning and that [1:37:27] way even our audience will [1:37:29] understand our expectations. [1:37:32] How you had to act in the [1:37:35] chamber. [1:37:37] Council member wallington thank [1:37:37] you. [1:37:38] >> good afternoon. [1:37:38] Good afternoon. [1:37:40] Customer wallet. [1:37:40] >> charlotte's priorities are [1:37:43] not new conversations but the [1:37:43] tools, partners and scale of [1:37:46] these challenges look very [1:37:47] different than they did even [1:37:48] five years ago. [1:37:48] Can you walk us through a [1:37:51] specific example of work you [1:37:54] are doing right now or have [1:37:54] done in the very recent past [1:37:57] that directly connects to one [1:37:57] of these priorities? [1:38:02] >> and so I'm happy to a cheat [1:38:04] sheet because I know is five of [1:38:05] you great neighborhoods help me [1:38:07] do it cheap sheet, great [1:38:07] neighborhoods, well-managed [1:38:09] government safety, community [1:38:10] transportation planning, [1:38:12] workforce and business [1:38:13] development. [1:38:15] So let me take one that I'm [1:38:15] probably more passionate about [1:38:20] does workforce development. [1:38:21] And I do remember and counsel a [1:38:23] grandmother proud we might be [1:38:25] dealing with to hear around [1:38:25] this time. [1:38:29] But I am debbie got struck I am [1:38:35] debbie adobe program a lawsuit [1:38:35] we filed against it and so [1:38:38] which charlotte ahead to make a [1:38:41] change to his program and then [1:38:41] we say how are we going to set [1:38:43] up another program that will [1:38:46] address our small businesses in [1:38:48] the community? [1:38:49] And so working with staff we [1:38:52] came up to new cba program [1:38:54] shall the business inclusion [1:38:55] code we were committed and I [1:38:57] was committed to make sure our [1:38:58] small business the minority [1:39:00] business still had a voice in a [1:39:03] community but had a voice that [1:39:05] people going to champion, [1:39:05] people going can understand and [1:39:09] support the new program and so [1:39:11] here we are today cba is [1:39:14] probably now seven years old. [1:39:17] Cba program now has reach [1:39:19] almost $1 billion in minority [1:39:21] participation and so customer [1:39:22] wallets and I would tell you [1:39:25] that's what leadership and [1:39:25] working with staff and [1:39:28] stakeholders is about being a [1:39:28] leader. [1:39:30] You don't have to have all the [1:39:31] right answers so sometimes you [1:39:33] have to overcome the challenges [1:39:33] . [1:39:33] Sometimes you had to be strong [1:39:36] in your conviction. [1:39:37] You want a different result for [1:39:39] people we serve it and so [1:39:41] that's just one example of how [1:39:44] even day to this day our [1:39:46] benighted business program is [1:39:49] thriving when several years ago [1:39:49] they were question was [1:39:52] charlotte ever embrace minority [1:39:52] companies again? [1:39:55] >> are you councilmember samir [1:40:00] thank the next mayor might play [1:40:00] a major role in shaping the [1:40:03] selection of charlotte's next [1:40:03] city leaders how would you [1:40:06] ensure a city council is [1:40:07] meaningfully included in that [1:40:09] process and what structure [1:40:10] would you put in place to make [1:40:11] sure our city staff is [1:40:14] proactive, transparent and [1:40:15] communicative with council [1:40:18] members and residents [1:40:18] especially in communities that [1:40:20] often feel decisions are made [1:40:21] without them? [1:40:23] >> okay, so let me tackle the [1:40:23] first one. [1:40:25] So if I'm interim mayor hear me [1:40:26] loud and clear james much [1:40:28] immature name would not be on [1:40:32] the ballot 2027 so I have the [1:40:34] ultimate to ultimate freedom I [1:40:37] just developing the love of [1:40:40] people around this table and so [1:40:40] let me apologize if when I set [1:40:43] out my vision of my committees [1:40:46] that it offended some people it [1:40:46] was not to offend you but it [1:40:49] was to say I believe each and [1:40:50] every one of you should have [1:40:52] the opportunity to have a [1:40:53] leadership role on charlotte [1:40:55] city council. [1:40:57] So my first thing with you my [1:41:00] question is let me be very [1:41:03] specific when I talk about next [1:41:03] city leaders, I'm talking about [1:41:05] our direct reports like the [1:41:05] attorney, the manager and the [1:41:08] clerk oh, I'm sorry. [1:41:08] >> I'm sorry. [1:41:09] I thought you said so. [1:41:11] Repeat it again then, mr. [1:41:11] mayor. [1:41:12] >> yes. [1:41:13] The next mayor might play a [1:41:14] major role in shaping the [1:41:16] selection of charlotte's next [1:41:18] city leaders. [1:41:19] City leaders? [1:41:19] Yes. [1:41:20] The three that we were [1:41:21] responsible for. [1:41:22] >> yes. [1:41:22] So how would you ensure that [1:41:25] the process is transparent, [1:41:27] communicative and proactive [1:41:30] where council is meaningfully [1:41:33] engaged in the process right. [1:41:36] >> and that's okay. [1:41:36] Thank you. [1:41:37] Council members. [1:41:37] I'm sorry. [1:41:39] I was thinking about the 11 [1:41:39] year old. [1:41:41] We had three people we know we [1:41:43] responsible for. [1:41:44] We should have their evaluation [1:41:46] on that schedule. [1:41:47] We need to do a better job of [1:41:51] being proactive and so one [1:41:53] ideal I had is have quarterly [1:41:56] what I call 90 days check in so [1:41:57] we got the city manager we know [1:41:59] we're going to have the city [1:41:59] attorney. [1:42:00] We know we're going to have the [1:42:00] city clerk. [1:42:03] We have a bgr committee that we [1:42:06] can refer this item to. [1:42:08] So the bgr committee would talk [1:42:09] about the evaluation of scoring [1:42:11] and the date we had the respect [1:42:14] of everybody time we got work [1:42:15] commitments, we have family [1:42:17] commitments and we got other [1:42:19] commitments out there in the [1:42:20] community and so to me the [1:42:22] worst thing we do right now is [1:42:25] always we look at that calendar [1:42:28] and it pops up like next monday [1:42:31] from 2 to 5 we have a city [1:42:33] clerk evaluation. [1:42:34] proactive and communication has [1:42:37] to improve in a way I would [1:42:38] like to improve it on a 90 day [1:42:41] lookahead schedule. [1:42:42] How are we going to do that by [1:42:43] the way, some be referred to [1:42:46] the bgr committee what criteria [1:42:49] we're going to use goes to the [1:42:52] bgr committee so let's ensure [1:42:55] all the work is on the [1:42:56] committee and let's work on me [1:42:58] being proactive on scheduling [1:43:01] these evaluation that fits [1:43:04] council's schedule. [1:43:06] Okay let's do a time chart ten [1:43:08] administer three seconds so [1:43:11] raise your hand and I'll [1:43:11] recognize anyone who wants to [1:43:12] ask a question. [1:43:14] Council some member jd council [1:43:16] member anderson thank you. [1:43:19] >> thank you chair graham [1:43:24] council member mitchell one [1:43:25] second. [1:43:27] >> how would you balance out [1:43:30] the priorities and protect the [1:43:31] local authority the city of [1:43:33] charlotte has on our airport [1:43:36] but also improving the [1:43:37] conditions of airport service [1:43:39] workers? [1:43:39] Thank you. [1:43:41] So I did have or a referral [1:43:44] actually put in to kind of [1:43:45] address the airport and [1:43:48] unfortunately did not get sent [1:43:50] to the aisle economic [1:43:50] development committee. [1:43:53] So let me share my thoughts. [1:43:55] One is and I give councilmember [1:43:57] owens credit we were at [1:44:00] breakfast in politics and we [1:44:02] heard from two companies abm [1:44:05] and prosper about the [1:44:08] workington ditions out there. [1:44:09] And councilmember, I want to [1:44:11] say that particular time didn't [1:44:12] need to be a service level [1:44:16] agreement that we need that we [1:44:19] need to include as it relates [1:44:20] to the working conditions at [1:44:22] the airport, we have to let [1:44:25] citizens know then when we hear [1:44:26] your concerns and conditions [1:44:27] you have we take an area of [1:44:28] politics and I mean public [1:44:30] safety workforce development. [1:44:33] We need to have a plan. [1:44:36] And so my thing at that [1:44:37] particular time I me allows [1:44:39] that she can refer is to a job [1:44:42] fair with the abm employees to [1:44:45] really understand how we can [1:44:46] improve their quality of life. [1:44:48] Can we assist them in getting [1:44:49] more opportunities at the [1:44:51] airport we heard about the [1:44:53] public safety concerns. [1:44:54] Well, we got a public safety [1:44:56] committee and so how can we [1:44:57] address some of the real [1:44:59] concerns at the airport? [1:45:02] I think and this is my motto I [1:45:04] think doing nothing does not [1:45:07] solve any problems and it [1:45:08] definitely not solve the [1:45:08] problems that we hear in that [1:45:10] airport. [1:45:13] Councilmember mayo and I were [1:45:14] invited to attend a conference [1:45:19] this this past sunday sunday [1:45:19] talking about the airport [1:45:22] advisory council for minority [1:45:25] companies charlotte we was [1:45:27] there to support them and [1:45:28] charlotte was recently [1:45:30] charlotte to have an airport [1:45:31] minot advisory council along [1:45:33] with the cit in new york. [1:45:36] We were proud to be there, was [1:45:36] proud to represent. [1:45:37] But you know what I took away [1:45:39] from that is minority [1:45:39] businesses. [1:45:42] >> the airport have a long way [1:45:45] to go so they can sustain [1:45:45] themselves. [1:45:48] And so councilmember mayo and I [1:45:49] was was proudly sitting up [1:45:52] there and as they say charlotte [1:45:54] we have a new chapter and you [1:45:55] can just see the joy among [1:45:57] minority companies who have [1:46:00] been working for three years to [1:46:02] get this charter airport is an [1:46:03] economic development as well as [1:46:05] a transportation. [1:46:05] But we need to make sure our [1:46:08] airport research and guidelines [1:46:11] of the city council would like [1:46:11] to establish that make sure [1:46:13] that employees are taken care [1:46:24] of and law thank you. [1:46:24] >> how do you see the [1:46:27] relationship between the mayor [1:46:29] and council and what does it [1:46:32] look like in practice when you [1:46:35] disagree with the body that has [1:46:36] appointed you? [1:46:38] How do you see your [1:46:41] relationship with the manager [1:46:42] the city manager on a day to [1:46:44] day basis? [1:46:44] Let's talk about the most [1:46:47] important relationship is the [1:46:48] level of people it is around [1:46:49] this table. [1:46:51] The mayor doesn't have a vote [1:46:55] so the mayor or the best thing [1:46:58] pursuit facility date and [1:47:01] create a culture that people [1:47:01] can be honest and there's [1:47:04] dialog COUNCILMAN So I would [1:47:06] say that's why the one on one [1:47:08] meetings we will establish will [1:47:10] help that trust be built but [1:47:13] also again on the standing of [1:47:17] what do we need to do as a [1:47:19] council to move forward. [1:47:22] I think the city manager's [1:47:25] responsible for staff the staff [1:47:26] is responsible for implementing [1:47:28] the policies that 11 those [1:47:31] around this table raise our [1:47:33] hand and tell them to work on [1:47:37] and so has it been a different [1:47:39] culture? [1:47:40] I think there's been [1:47:43] frustration for all of us of [1:47:45] how things have been move and [1:47:48] how we are being heard. [1:47:50] COUNCILMAN How's that going to [1:47:51] bring you? [1:47:53] What I'm used to and that is [1:47:54] used to tough new people [1:47:56] working with people and making [1:47:59] sure people understand that as [1:48:02] more power will we work [1:48:02] together. [1:48:08] I'm never being someone who [1:48:08] needs attention or who likes to [1:48:14] grandstand and I think as mayor [1:48:17] is more importantly that your [1:48:19] love and fear can't will [1:48:20] working together you'll never [1:48:20] feel counted. [1:48:22] You can come to talk to the [1:48:24] mayor on pressing issue and I [1:48:27] have to be open and to listen [1:48:30] to that. [1:48:31] Let me tell you one thing too I [1:48:33] think help set that is open [1:48:37] dialog and we have meetings [1:48:37] here at 5:00 we do agenda [1:48:40] review or a city council [1:48:42] meeting. [1:48:42] It's important that this [1:48:46] community looks at us and said [1:48:48] that is a council that's [1:48:49] working together not for the [1:48:52] own individual agenda but for [1:48:55] us to citizens. [1:48:57] Five minute warning it's been [1:48:57] given councilmember wallington [1:48:59] it's up council member [1:49:01] addresses thank you. [1:49:02] >> thank you. [1:49:02] As a follow up to the previous [1:49:04] question regarding [1:49:07] intergovernmental relationships [1:49:10] ,MR. Belcher, you are [1:49:10] currently the mayor pro tem [1:49:13] economic development chair and [1:49:15] the capo alternate given where [1:49:18] you already sit why would you [1:49:21] be more valuable in the mayor's [1:49:23] seat groups all of the roles [1:49:24] that you currently have so [1:49:26] councilmember watlington first [1:49:27] of all I think there's other [1:49:30] leaders on this table they can [1:49:32] fit the role of mayor pro tem, [1:49:33] chair of economic development [1:49:35] and carpool out. [1:49:35] That's number one. [1:49:38] Number two, I think my [1:49:41] leadership style and leadership [1:49:41] skills is perfect for this [1:49:44] transition period we having [1:49:47] this is a true transition [1:49:47] period and so I hope you all [1:49:50] will feel comfortable there's [1:49:52] someone who willing to do the [1:49:53] work who's willing to make sure [1:49:56] we are develop and have [1:49:58] leadership abilities to grow [1:50:01] and someone who's going to put [1:50:02] this city forward instead of [1:50:04] himself. [1:50:07] I do not think in all my 20 [1:50:09] some years of serving that I've [1:50:12] always been selfish. [1:50:16] I take pride in developing [1:50:18] other people and so I would [1:50:21] like to say that after 18 [1:50:23] months the level you all would [1:50:26] be better leaders this city [1:50:27] council be more accountable and [1:50:29] we have accomplished that. [1:50:32] We set out to do it as relates [1:50:35] to our priorities and I think [1:50:35] I'm suited best. [1:50:38] COUNCILMAN Watlington leading [1:50:40] this team to accomplish those [1:50:41] objectives. [1:50:43] >> council councilmember drakes [1:50:44] will get the last question and [1:50:44] then I think we should be ready [1:50:46] for the one minute closing [1:50:49] statement and lester's any [1:50:49] other questions from members? [1:50:51] Council member drake thank you [1:50:52] MR. Chair. [1:50:54] >> how important are the [1:50:55] intergovernmental relationships [1:50:57] to the city's agenda and what [1:50:58] are ways you as mayor would [1:51:00] work with our intergovernmental [1:51:03] partners to achieve outcomes [1:51:03] for our city? [1:51:04] >> thank you, councilmember [1:51:04] judy. [1:51:06] So I think that to me needs to [1:51:08] be called in meetings between [1:51:09] committee county commissioner [1:51:12] mark dreyer, school board chair [1:51:14] stephanie sneed quarterly [1:51:15] meetings I think we have [1:51:18] demonstrated success and [1:51:20] historic social club the city [1:51:21] county participation we had [1:51:23] demonstrated success with the [1:51:26] with cmc with the teacher [1:51:27] village. [1:51:28] We gave $1 million and then and [1:51:31] then council majorities. [1:51:31] I think there's two other [1:51:32] relationships though we need to [1:51:33] maintain. [1:51:34] So I would like us to have a [1:51:36] government day in raleigh. [1:51:37] We need to make sure our [1:51:39] relationships rallies are [1:51:40] respected from raleigh as well [1:51:42] as us. [1:51:42] I'm going encourage you all to [1:51:45] go in MARCH with our [1:51:48] congressional relationships and [1:51:48] alcee because our congressional [1:51:51] delegation is very important. [1:51:54] COUNCILMAN Rodriguez, I have [1:51:57] always believe that when you [1:51:59] have the three governing bodies [1:52:00] in this community working [1:52:02] together, schools will be [1:52:04] better accountable, would be [1:52:05] better in the city would [1:52:07] definitely be better. [1:52:07] Thank you. [1:52:10] Okay. [1:52:10] Any last pressing questions [1:52:15] before the closing statements [1:52:15] saying none. [1:52:18] Well, what's yours for a [1:52:18] minute? [1:52:19] >> give us your closing [1:52:19] statement. [1:52:21] What chair pro tem I'm just [1:52:23] going to go back to some I left [1:52:25] you all when I did my two [1:52:27] minute speech and I talked [1:52:28] about the four c's. [1:52:30] So I want to reiterate them. [1:52:31] I'm so honored to get your [1:52:34] support on JUNE 22nd and the [1:52:37] first c is collaboration and so [1:52:37] I talked about I want to create [1:52:40] a culture of about [1:52:42] collaborating meeting with the [1:52:43] mayor one on one and seeking [1:52:45] your input. [1:52:47] Second is about our committees [1:52:47] . [1:52:48] We need to empower our [1:52:50] committees to do the real work [1:52:51] and so I would like the [1:52:53] committees to have they stand a [1:52:54] meeting on the first monday and [1:52:56] then you determine what I call [1:52:57] a special committee meeting. [1:52:59] We have to be flexible enough [1:53:02] to get the work done. [1:53:02] Committee assignments are very [1:53:05] important so I seek your input. [1:53:08] I just want to have chairs and [1:53:10] vice chairs on each committee [1:53:10] discusses about increasing [1:53:13] leadership capacity on this [1:53:15] council thoroughly was about [1:53:18] communication we need to do a [1:53:19] better job being proactive what [1:53:21] I communication engaging with [1:53:24] our communication and sharing [1:53:25] our results the lessons that [1:53:28] citizens who we need to work [1:53:28] for each and every day. [1:53:31] >> thank you chair pro-tem for [1:53:31] this opportunity. [1:53:33] Thank you council we're port [1:53:34] town mitchell I want to thank [1:53:36] you for your civic leadership [1:53:37] for all these years. [1:53:39] Thank you for your commitment [1:53:41] to the city of charlotte and [1:53:42] thank you for applying for the [1:53:44] interim mayor position. [1:53:44] >> we appreciate your [1:53:45] leadership. [1:53:45] Thank you. [1:53:46] Thank you. [1:53:52] >> thank you all who sat next [1:53:55] to you council member always [1:54:00] your next I know robert [1:54:05] harrington robert harrington. [1:54:06] >> robert harrington is next. [1:54:21] Oh my good betsy I know I do [1:54:21] too. [1:54:23] >> yes. [1:54:27] Oh truth be told I couldn't use [1:54:27] the restroom. [1:54:27] We want to move it. [1:54:29] I've got I want to take another [1:54:29] two minute break. [1:54:32] >> I'll just about I don't want [1:54:35] to stop nobody stand for them. [1:54:38] I'm going to we have someone [1:54:40] more just more robert and then [1:54:47] carrie this break for two [1:54:47] minutes. [1:54:55] >> three minutes after robert [1:55:26] you want a break [1:55:44] from their position for the [1:55:45] city of charlotte in total you [1:55:48] will have 30 minutes. [1:55:49] Members of the council will ask [1:55:51] question there MAY be a follow [1:55:54] up question that's germane to [1:55:54] the question that was [1:55:59] previously extra you you will [1:56:02] have a five minute warning when [1:56:02] your time is about to expire a [1:56:05] minute warning when your time [1:56:07] is almost done, when you get [1:56:08] two minute warning just finish [1:56:10] your thought. [1:56:11] You don't have to stop for [1:56:13] properly and then at the end [1:56:14] you'll get a one minute closing [1:56:16] argument to sum up your case [1:56:19] and so if MRS. Johnson is ready [1:56:22] we'll start from that side. [1:56:23] I will work our way around the [1:56:25] dyess. [1:56:25] Councilmember johnson the floor [1:56:28] is yours. [1:56:40] Thank you for voting. [1:56:41] Thank you. [1:56:41] Hello. [1:56:41] Well, thank you. [1:56:43] Thank you for your willingness [1:56:44] to serve. [1:56:44] >> absolutely. [1:56:47] What concerns, if any, do you [1:56:49] think the public might have [1:56:49] about your appointment as [1:56:53] interim mayor and how would you [1:56:55] address those concerns? [1:56:56] And then there's a second part. [1:56:57] So he says okay. [1:57:00] >> so on the first part I mean [1:57:03] I think I am know one of the [1:57:04] final five who has not served [1:57:07] in elected office and is not [1:57:10] served in government per se. [1:57:12] And I think that raises I would [1:57:13] imagine that the public would [1:57:15] have questions about that and I [1:57:15] think it brings opportunities [1:57:18] right because I have served in [1:57:21] a number of positions from the [1:57:23] north carolina bar association [1:57:24] to leading the board of the [1:57:26] charlotte mecklenburg public [1:57:26] library system. [1:57:29] And so I've got a good deal of [1:57:32] experience in the around the [1:57:32] public sector and in the public [1:57:33] sector. [1:57:35] But I would expect that to be a [1:57:37] question and I think the [1:57:38] answers are that I've had good [1:57:40] experience working with city [1:57:43] and county and library and also [1:57:43] working with private sector. [1:57:46] >> thank you. [1:57:48] Additionally, what's strengths [1:57:51] and experiences do you believe [1:57:52] make you the most well-suited [1:57:55] for this role? [1:57:55] >> I think it dovetails [1:57:58] councilmember with what I said [1:57:58] just now. [1:58:00] I think I've I think we are in [1:58:03] a time where, you know, sort of [1:58:06] bringing all of those [1:58:06] experiences to bear, [1:58:08] particularly in this interim [1:58:09] period would be helpful. [1:58:12] I don't have political [1:58:12] aspirations beyond this and i [1:58:15] think you know, we've all said [1:58:16] of course that we will not run [1:58:16] for one for mayor. [1:58:19] But I think this interim period [1:58:20] gives us an opportunity to work [1:58:22] internally some within the [1:58:23] council to make sure that all [1:58:25] the council members voices are [1:58:26] being heard and that the [1:58:28] council members feel that their [1:58:28] voices are being heard. [1:58:31] And then moving out from there [1:58:33] making sure that the public [1:58:34] believes that there is a free [1:58:37] flow of information and [1:58:37] viewpoints. [1:58:41] I think my experiences up to [1:58:42] now in my life experiences [1:58:44] helped me to do that. [1:58:45] And I'm eager to bring those [1:58:47] skills to bear on the current [1:58:49] situation in thank you council [1:58:51] member council member jd. [1:58:52] >> thank you chair graham. [1:58:55] Thank you MR. Harrington. [1:58:57] Charlotte is the fastest [1:58:58] growing city but oftentimes [1:59:00] that growth is leaving behind [1:59:00] working families. [1:59:03] How would you balance being [1:59:05] business friendly and people [1:59:06] first as well as ensuring our [1:59:08] private partners are [1:59:09] collaborative partners and [1:59:11] closing socioeconomic gaps? [1:59:12] >> yeah I yes I would start [1:59:14] councilmember with the with my [1:59:15] experience. [1:59:17] I have spent my career here in [1:59:18] what I would call the business [1:59:20] sector. [1:59:21] I mean I have been a practicing [1:59:23] attorney handling primarily [1:59:23] business matters. [1:59:26] I've also been heavily involved [1:59:27] in the community and that goes [1:59:29] from I think the first [1:59:30] organization I was involved in [1:59:32] here was probably friendship [1:59:32] church. [1:59:32] the second probably right [1:59:34] around the same time was what [1:59:35] were then siegel avenue [1:59:38] partners, which is now freedom [1:59:38] school partners. [1:59:42] So I have spent my career [1:59:44] certainly the last 30 years of [1:59:47] it bridging those gaps and [1:59:50] making plain to, you know, [1:59:53] partners on both sides of those [1:59:54] issues. [1:59:56] I don't see that divide because [1:59:56] I don't want to concede that [1:59:57] there's a divide. [1:59:59] But in those different pockets [2:00:01] of the community the need to [2:00:04] work together and as we grow I [2:00:04] agree with you. [2:00:05] I think it is particularly [2:00:07] important that we do everything [2:00:10] we can to make sure that you [2:00:11] know, working citizens and [2:00:14] citizens, particularly families [2:00:15] who have been here for [2:00:17] generations aren't lost in the [2:00:20] growth we need to make sure [2:00:23] that the shiny new things don't [2:00:23] overwhelm the things that have [2:00:26] been here and the things that [2:00:26] are distinctive about [2:00:27] charlotte. [2:00:28] I think it's a balancing act, [2:00:29] right? [2:00:29] I mean it is a balancing act [2:00:32] because the fact that we are [2:00:34] there's something about the [2:00:35] city that's drawing whatever [2:00:38] that number is 100 and the [2:00:38] metropolitan area 100 whatever [2:00:41] a day there's something we're [2:00:41] doing right here that people [2:00:42] see on the outside. [2:00:44] I think we need to celebrate [2:00:47] that maintain those engines [2:00:47] that drive the growth. [2:00:49] But I completely agree with you [2:00:50] that you know and I can see it [2:00:52] in the work that I do and have [2:00:53] done in various civic [2:00:55] organizations. [2:00:56] we need to make sure people [2:00:56] don't get lost. [2:00:58] Thank you. [2:01:01] >> council member mayfield. [2:01:01] >> thank you. [2:01:04] Thank you so much for offering [2:01:04] yourself for this particular [2:01:06] role. [2:01:08] >> how do you plan to maintain [2:01:09] your employment and do this [2:01:12] role as it does take up a [2:01:14] significant amount of time? [2:01:15] >> a council councilmember I [2:01:16] suspect that's almost an [2:01:17] understatement that it takes up [2:01:20] a significant amount of time. [2:01:20] You know, I'm fortunately come [2:01:23] to a point in career and a [2:01:24] place of work where my [2:01:27] priorities is getting this job [2:01:29] done well and that takes time [2:01:32] and I know it takes time. [2:01:32] You know, I, I couldn't [2:01:35] tolerate and frankly I think [2:01:36] the folks that I have worked [2:01:39] with couldn't tolerate having a [2:01:41] public figure who was not doing [2:01:42] what he or she but they needed [2:01:45] to do in the community. [2:01:45] And so that has to be the [2:01:48] priority or you just don't do [2:01:50] it. [2:01:52] Councilmember drake, thank you [2:01:52] . [2:01:53] Good afternoon. [2:01:55] Good afternoon. [2:01:55] In order to achieve a more [2:01:58] orderly council process, how [2:02:01] would you work outside of [2:02:01] meetings to help council [2:02:04] identify priorities and achieve [2:02:04] consensus? [2:02:07] >> so I think you know, when I [2:02:08] step back and look at the [2:02:10] situation and look at the [2:02:12] council, look at the you know, [2:02:13] just the structure. [2:02:15] You know, the first thing is [2:02:17] the overriding thing is trust [2:02:20] is how do you maintain preserve [2:02:22] trust among the entire group? [2:02:23] I think that to me that's the [2:02:26] purpose for the orderliness. [2:02:29] You know, you you this body [2:02:29] it's vital to obviously it's [2:02:32] vital to charlotte that this [2:02:34] body be efficient and effective [2:02:36] and create not just the reality [2:02:37] but the perception of that. [2:02:40] I think we you know, we need to [2:02:42] be attentive to prior to [2:02:43] meetings or outside of meetings [2:02:45] having the committee structure [2:02:48] work the way the committee [2:02:48] structure should work. [2:02:50] And that's with, you know, [2:02:53] leadership of the committees [2:02:54] that is energized about what [2:02:56] they're doing. [2:02:57] It's you know, considering [2:02:57] committee structure. [2:03:00] You know, maybe you have, you [2:03:00] know, engaged and we've had [2:03:03] this in the past vice chairs [2:03:03] but the committee structures [2:03:05] got to work and people have to [2:03:06] trust the members have to trust [2:03:08] that the committee structure [2:03:08] will work. [2:03:11] And then for meetings there, [2:03:14] you know, I've my some of my [2:03:15] colleagues would say I've done [2:03:17] too much of this in my career [2:03:17] but I've chaired a lot of a lot [2:03:19] of meetings. [2:03:20] And I think there is a [2:03:23] necessary very task and [2:03:25] necessary skill to making sure [2:03:28] that voices are heard and that [2:03:31] folks, you know, are recognized [2:03:32] ,that motions are orderly, [2:03:34] that process is followed. [2:03:34] You know, there's a detailed [2:03:38] procedure, you know, for this [2:03:40] council that I believe you all [2:03:40] revisited in JUNE. [2:03:42] I would say JUNE 8th of this [2:03:45] year and you know, it's laid [2:03:46] out there and I know the [2:03:47] overlay to that is robert's [2:03:48] rules and the overlay to that [2:03:50] is the city charter which has [2:03:51] some provisions. [2:03:53] But I think we have to follow [2:03:54] those and it's not for the [2:03:56] mechanics of following it is [2:03:57] because that's how you create [2:03:57] trust. [2:04:00] If people understand and the [2:04:01] process to be heard in meeting [2:04:03] and follow that process, we [2:04:05] have to be attentive to that. [2:04:06] But again I'd step back from [2:04:09] that and say both a reason for [2:04:12] that and an outcome is trust [2:04:14] and without trust you can't [2:04:17] accomplish anything [2:04:17] effectively. [2:04:17] >> thank you. [2:04:20] COUNCILMAN Owens. [2:04:21] Thank you, chair. [2:04:23] Afternoon. [2:04:24] It's nice to see you. [2:04:24] Thank you. [2:04:27] The recent rescission of the [2:04:29] I-77 project recommendation [2:04:30] reflected strong public [2:04:30] engagement and differing [2:04:32] perspective about [2:04:33] transportation planning. [2:04:35] What do you believe should be [2:04:36] the next step in addressing [2:04:36] congestion and mobility [2:04:38] challenges along the I-77 [2:04:39] corridor? [2:04:41] And how would you as mayor [2:04:42] ensure the public is [2:04:44] meaningfully involved in that [2:04:44] process? [2:04:45] >> so I'll start with the end [2:04:47] of that councilperson council [2:04:48] member. [2:04:51] I think the the engagement of [2:04:53] the public is vital. [2:04:53] You know, we can't do anything [2:04:56] without hearing the voices of [2:04:56] the public. [2:04:59] I think the you know, there's [2:05:00] no question that there's a [2:05:01] congestion problem there, [2:05:02] congestion problems all over [2:05:02] the metropolitan area. [2:05:04] But there's a particular [2:05:08] congestion problem on 77 south [2:05:09] two to a to address that [2:05:12] problem takes you know we have [2:05:14] the regional areas with the car [2:05:17] with carpool but it also takes [2:05:18] the legislature and I think we [2:05:20] have to have meaningful dialog [2:05:20] with the legislature with [2:05:23] communication going both ways. [2:05:23] Right. [2:05:26] And so it is the need for [2:05:28] charlotte to be in fact a [2:05:32] municipal area, a municipal [2:05:32] place that that is treated with [2:05:34] integrity. [2:05:35] But it's also the realization [2:05:38] that funding and a lot of [2:05:40] control emanates from raleigh [2:05:41] and and for that matter from [2:05:41] washington. [2:05:44] So I think we have to I don't [2:05:44] think any of these are simple [2:05:46] problems. [2:05:47] I think communication is vital. [2:05:50] I think finding a way to [2:05:53] reengage in an appropriate way [2:05:54] in the process of developing 77 [2:05:57] south is is important and I [2:05:58] think it has to be done. [2:05:59] I think it is an immediate [2:06:00] priority for whoever holds this [2:06:02] role. [2:06:03] And I think we have to be [2:06:03] attentive to the public. [2:06:05] We have to and part of being [2:06:06] attentive to the public is [2:06:09] communicate doing both the city [2:06:11] but also importantly the state [2:06:15] and the you know, department of [2:06:15] transportation communicating [2:06:17] fully and effectively with the [2:06:18] citizens. [2:06:21] There's a whole I mean we all [2:06:21] know there's a whole lot of [2:06:23] background here, right? [2:06:24] There are years and years of [2:06:26] background here that are real [2:06:27] to people and they're real to [2:06:29] people who you know or my age. [2:06:32] And so how we address those [2:06:34] concerns of gets back to trust [2:06:35] again. [2:06:35] The trust as we go forward is [2:06:37] is is important. [2:06:38] But I do think we have to [2:06:40] reengage in that discussion and [2:06:43] figure out how we handle those [2:06:46] challenges of transportation [2:06:46] from you know, middle of middle [2:06:49] of charlotte to the south [2:06:50] carolina border. [2:06:55] We can't ignore that issue. [2:06:58] >> COUNCILWOMAN Anderson, thank [2:06:58] you and welcome. [2:06:58] Thank you. [2:07:01] And your opinion what is the [2:07:04] biggest challenge facing our [2:07:04] city? [2:07:07] And I ask that with the [2:07:07] understanding that we have many [2:07:09] challenges. [2:07:11] But if you could focus on one [2:07:11] that you believe is the biggest [2:07:14] one, I'd like to hear from you [2:07:14] on that. [2:07:15] >> yeah, I think it's I think [2:07:17] it's a broad issue that [2:07:19] involves affordability. [2:07:22] You know, affordable housing [2:07:23] and the issues that I mentioned [2:07:26] earlier with council member of [2:07:28] how we make sure that a [2:07:31] prosperous city the prosperity [2:07:31] is shared as broadly as it [2:07:32] should be. [2:07:35] I think affordable housing is [2:07:35] in the middle of that. [2:07:37] If I were going to stress on [2:07:40] one, I think it's you know, [2:07:40] it's affordable housing and the [2:07:41] things that revolve around that [2:07:43] so services for folks in the [2:07:46] pockets where we're you know, [2:07:48] struggling with residents who [2:07:49] can't afford housing anymore [2:07:51] but there's a there a bunch of [2:07:52] wraparound services that I know [2:07:54] are addressed to some extent in [2:07:54] the budget. [2:07:56] I mean I think we're we're [2:07:59] working on those issues at [2:08:00] least in the you know, the bond [2:08:01] proposal for affordable [2:08:02] housing. [2:08:04] The referendum in NOVEMBER, I [2:08:05] think that's going to be really [2:08:06] important for whoever takes [2:08:07] this role to engage on behalf [2:08:10] of the city and with the [2:08:10] council on immediately because [2:08:12] I think that's going to be [2:08:13] vital. [2:08:14] The success of that is vital [2:08:16] but I think it's affordability [2:08:20] combined and with I'll use the [2:08:22] word inclusion but by inclusion [2:08:25] I mean that that all of our [2:08:28] citizens have a real chance of [2:08:28] participating in the prosperity [2:08:29] of the city. [2:08:31] While maintaining the [2:08:31] prosperity of the city. [2:08:33] If you're going to do a second [2:08:33] I would say of course at all [2:08:36] times public safety because [2:08:39] none of this is possible with [2:08:39] our public safety. [2:08:41] I know the budget included at [2:08:44] least a strong start towards, [2:08:44] you know, policing and public [2:08:47] safety and fire. [2:08:47] But I don't think that can be [2:08:49] left out of any equation [2:08:52] because the citizens look to us [2:08:53] for that. [2:08:56] >> council member male. [2:08:56] >> thank you. [2:08:59] Good afternoon. [2:08:59] >> good afternoon. [2:09:00] How would you ensure meetings [2:09:02] are efficient while also [2:09:05] allowing robust debate and [2:09:05] discussion? [2:09:05] >> great question. [2:09:08] I think the I think that [2:09:11] largely gets back to trust [2:09:11] again but order right. [2:09:13] i think you have to there has [2:09:14] to be a and there is I mean [2:09:17] when you look at the procedures [2:09:17] and you look at what we have [2:09:19] available to us running [2:09:20] meetings efficiently, [2:09:22] effectively and according to [2:09:22] our procedures is the sure [2:09:25] that's why the rules exist so [2:09:28] that you know the process to be [2:09:28] heard. [2:09:29] You have the opportunity to be [2:09:30] heard. [2:09:31] You know, I think there there [2:09:33] are issues that we should we [2:09:36] that that council and [2:09:39] leadership should send to [2:09:40] appropriate committees. [2:09:40] You know when there are issues [2:09:43] that can be more robustly [2:09:45] addressed in the committee [2:09:45] structure. [2:09:49] But I think overall and I guess [2:09:49] I'd add another thing [2:09:51] communication right? [2:09:53] So you know one on one I would [2:09:55] intend to be in this building [2:09:58] and among council members as [2:09:59] the default break in. [2:10:01] I hope that we can create a you [2:10:04] know, sort of create or [2:10:06] continue a process where many [2:10:07] of us are in here because being [2:10:10] able before meetings between [2:10:12] meetings to talk and to talk [2:10:15] even you know, we're all going [2:10:17] to disagree at times and my [2:10:20] career is frankly, you know, I [2:10:21] you know, put a kid through [2:10:23] college largely on [2:10:23] disagreements. [2:10:24] That's what we do. [2:10:26] But respect ing disagreements [2:10:27] and being able to work through [2:10:29] them to some resolution. [2:10:30] That takes time. [2:10:32] It takes individual [2:10:35] conversations and it takes [2:10:35] orderly meetings and process [2:10:38] and accustomed to working on [2:10:41] that from you know, the I keep [2:10:41] going back to the bar [2:10:45] association but that was 14,000 [2:10:45] lawyers from across the state [2:10:49] with a board of approximately [2:10:52] 30 who are lawyers right and so [2:10:53] not only do they have opinions [2:10:55] but they express them and [2:10:56] learning how to manage that [2:10:58] process, working together to [2:11:00] manage that process by the [2:11:01] rules we have procedures. [2:11:04] We just need to make sure we're [2:11:04] following them. [2:11:07] >> council member wallington [2:11:07] thank you and thank you for [2:11:09] being here. [2:11:10] >> brooke perhaps following up [2:11:13] on your experience or you can [2:11:14] certainly pick something else. [2:11:16] >> charlotte's priorities are [2:11:16] not new conversations but the [2:11:19] tools partners and scale of [2:11:20] these challenges look very [2:11:22] different than they did even [2:11:22] five years ago. [2:11:23] Can you walk us through a [2:11:25] specific example of work you [2:11:26] are doing now or have done in [2:11:28] the very recent past that [2:11:28] directly connects to these [2:11:31] priorities? [2:11:31] Councilmember two the [2:11:34] priorities specific to [2:11:37] charlotte or in general to [2:11:37] charlotte. [2:11:38] So I think the most recent [2:11:39] experience that I had in [2:11:42] charlotte in the you know [2:11:42] public sector was as chair of [2:11:45] the the board of the library [2:11:48] board of trustees. [2:11:49] And we work through a number of [2:11:51] issues. [2:11:52] I mean we go through a process [2:11:55] periodically I won't say every [2:11:55] year but periodically with the [2:11:57] county on capital priorities in [2:12:00] where you know library [2:12:02] facilities need to be [2:12:03] constructed or renovated. [2:12:05] You know, otherwise worked on [2:12:06] the dedication of of you know [2:12:09] human resources of people to [2:12:11] particular areas. [2:12:14] I maintained a process I will [2:12:15] say I started the process but I [2:12:16] maintained a process where we [2:12:19] were in communication with, you [2:12:22] know, staff senior staff and [2:12:24] other trustees who we selected [2:12:25] because they hopefully [2:12:28] represented the city well and [2:12:28] it was a diverse in every sense [2:12:31] of the word board on purpose to [2:12:32] make sure that we were getting [2:12:34] the feedback from citizens [2:12:35] about what they need and what [2:12:37] they need in fast growing new [2:12:37] areas and what they need on [2:12:40] very good road. [2:12:40] You know we invested around [2:12:43] that time in the you know, [2:12:45] betty ford regional which we [2:12:46] changed the name of to honor a [2:12:48] citizen but that's a it's a [2:12:49] process of communicating with [2:12:52] the public and then working [2:12:54] internally to make sure that [2:12:55] effective and getting it done. [2:12:57] I think my library experience [2:13:00] is probably the closest in that [2:13:03] sense experience public sector [2:13:03] in charlotte and obviously I've [2:13:05] done stuff with the bar [2:13:06] association that statewide but [2:13:09] again you're there you're [2:13:09] working with and I think it [2:13:12] would be I think it would be [2:13:14] helpful here that experience of [2:13:16] working with people from across [2:13:17] the state and with working you [2:13:20] know, not as a, you know, [2:13:21] lobbyist we have our own [2:13:23] lobbyist right. [2:13:23] But working conscious of the [2:13:26] goals of folks in the [2:13:28] legislature who have various [2:13:29] opinions about charlotte and [2:13:29] various needs in their own [2:13:32] communities and I would really [2:13:33] look forward to engaging that. [2:13:34] So I would say that the [2:13:35] experience is charlotte is [2:13:38] primarily library but I think [2:13:40] the skill set is developed from [2:13:41] a range of other experiences. [2:13:43] I hope that interest. [2:13:44] >> thank you. [2:13:48] Time to 13 minutes and 14 by [2:13:49] council member shamir. [2:13:49] >> thank you. [2:13:51] Welcome MR. Harrington. [2:13:51] >> thank you. [2:13:54] Thank you for your service on [2:13:55] the ward within charlotte as [2:14:00] well as the library. [2:14:01] >> so the next mayor might play [2:14:03] a major role in shaping the [2:14:06] selection of our direct reports [2:14:06] whether that be a manager or [2:14:09] clerk or the city attorney. [2:14:12] >> how would you ensure city [2:14:14] council is meaningful included [2:14:15] in that process and what [2:14:17] structure would you put in [2:14:18] place to ensure city staff is [2:14:20] proactive, transparent and [2:14:23] communicating with all council [2:14:23] members and residents [2:14:24] especially in communities that [2:14:27] often feel decisions are made [2:14:29] without them? [2:14:29] Oh great question I think and [2:14:31] thank you council member. [2:14:34] I think the communication on [2:14:35] those issues and you know none [2:14:38] of this is easy, right? [2:14:39] I mean that's why we're here. [2:14:40] That's why you guys devote so [2:14:41] much time to this to [2:14:43] communication on all of those [2:14:44] issues is key there. [2:14:47] You know, I've not been through [2:14:47] a process obviously of [2:14:49] selecting a manager or city [2:14:52] attorney, but the voices in [2:14:55] this room have to be involved [2:14:55] meaningfully because if they're [2:14:58] not you set up a prescription [2:15:01] for folks not to feel a part of [2:15:03] the process and in any [2:15:05] situation like that you run the [2:15:08] risk of, you know, creating a [2:15:08] setting someone up for failure. [2:15:08] Right. [2:15:11] I think that's one of the keys [2:15:14] for whoever is the next mayor [2:15:17] is to make sure that the intent [2:15:19] going into the process is that [2:15:20] voices be heard. [2:15:22] Sometimes that takes longer, [2:15:22] right? [2:15:25] Because you might have to work [2:15:25] through disagreements. [2:15:26] You might have to work through [2:15:28] a lot of questions. [2:15:30] The outcome there is better. [2:15:33] And so I would look for [2:15:35] certainly to involve this body [2:15:38] and look for appropriate ways [2:15:41] to involve the body so that you [2:15:43] have a voice and not just a you [2:15:46] know, a vote. [2:15:48] We probably got about 11 [2:15:49] minutes. [2:15:49] All right. [2:15:51] So the floor is open for [2:15:52] general questions from the [2:15:54] paper. [2:15:54] I recognize councilmember [2:15:57] johnson and councilmember jd [2:16:01] you're in q thank you. [2:16:03] Charlotte adopted an ordinance [2:16:04] in 2020 for related to [2:16:06] individuals who are unhoused. [2:16:07] What are your thoughts on those [2:16:10] policies and charlotte's [2:16:10] overall approach to [2:16:13] homelessness? [2:16:16] >> I think we need to continue [2:16:19] to to devote the resources as [2:16:22] to the underlying causes and [2:16:22] that's I'm sure that as [2:16:24] collaboratively with the county [2:16:25] in the areas that the county [2:16:28] you know, works in in you know, [2:16:30] human services and human [2:16:33] resources human services. [2:16:36] I think we the balance to that [2:16:36] balance is probably the wrong [2:16:39] word. [2:16:41] I think we need a vibrant city [2:16:42] across the board. [2:16:44] I think we need to take care of [2:16:45] folks who are temporarily [2:16:48] unhoused and you know and [2:16:49] realize that they're not the [2:16:51] enemy, that they are folks who [2:16:53] are in a situation that we're [2:16:54] blessed not to be in as we sit [2:16:56] here today. [2:16:57] So we have to be compassionate [2:16:59] and we have to put the [2:17:00] resources we have to you know, [2:17:02] I would say and I think I can [2:17:03] help in this process. [2:17:05] We have to combine the [2:17:08] resources and perhaps help to [2:17:11] guide the resources of the [2:17:11] public and the private and [2:17:14] nonprofit sectors and working [2:17:15] on these issues and then both [2:17:20] for the folks who are you know [2:17:21] ,find themselves on the [2:17:21] streets and for those who are [2:17:23] using those areas, we need the [2:17:26] not just the perception but the [2:17:26] reality of safety. [2:17:29] And so I think it's balancing [2:17:29] those things so that we are [2:17:32] attentive to the needs these [2:17:34] are our neighbors right. [2:17:35] But we also all have to feel [2:17:38] including those neighbors have [2:17:40] to feel safe in our various [2:17:43] areas. [2:17:43] Councilmember jd a [2:17:46] councilmember mayfield thank [2:17:46] you. [2:17:48] >> thank you, chair graham. [2:17:51] Charlotte's airport is one of [2:17:51] our city's most important [2:17:53] economic engines. [2:17:54] How would you protect [2:17:54] charlotte's role in shaping the [2:17:57] future of the airport while [2:17:59] also assuring airport service [2:18:00] workers benefit from its [2:18:00] success? [2:18:02] >> I'll try a great question [2:18:03] and I'll try to take that in [2:18:05] some order. [2:18:06] I mean I think we have to [2:18:08] continue to show that we are [2:18:11] not good but exceptional [2:18:13] stewards of that business [2:18:16] because we are as as any city [2:18:18] like us that operates an [2:18:21] airport we are at risk with [2:18:24] raleigh and I don't mean that [2:18:27] adversarial to raleigh but we [2:18:27] are at risk. [2:18:28] We're in a state where raleigh [2:18:30] has that type of control as [2:18:32] most states and we are [2:18:35] conscious of you know, actions [2:18:35] by washington. [2:18:38] And so, you know, it is a it's [2:18:40] an economic driver and it's a, [2:18:44] you know, municipal issue of [2:18:47] municipal integrity that we [2:18:48] continue to be able to operate [2:18:50] the airport and that we operate [2:18:51] it in an exceptional manner [2:18:51] which I think we historically [2:18:53] we have. [2:18:56] I agree that we need to, you [2:18:57] know, continually be looking at [2:19:00] the support that we provide for [2:19:02] all of our municipal employees [2:19:03] including those at the airport. [2:19:06] But we have to be, you know, [2:19:08] mindful of again stretched from [2:19:11] the the business sector to the [2:19:12] nonprofit sector to the the [2:19:14] religious sector. [2:19:15] We've got to be mindful of the [2:19:18] balance of making sure that we [2:19:20] protect and preserve that asset [2:19:21] while also making sure that we [2:19:23] treat the employees there and [2:19:26] our our team members there with [2:19:28] respect and councilmember [2:19:31] mayfield, council member drake, [2:19:31] thank you. [2:19:31] >> thank you. [2:19:34] This is a really long question [2:19:35] but I'm gonna try to condense [2:19:37] it. [2:19:39] >> so if appointed interim [2:19:43] mayor how would you identify [2:19:46] and manage any actual or [2:19:46] perceived conflicts of interest [2:19:49] arising from your employment [2:19:52] clients business relationship [2:19:55] or financial interests [2:19:57] specifically if there if your [2:19:58] current profession require you [2:20:00] to frequently recuse yourself [2:20:03] from matters knowing you don't [2:20:04] have a vote before the council, [2:20:07] would you be willing to modify [2:20:09] or step away from the vote from [2:20:09] that role to ensure that the [2:20:12] public has a fully engaged and [2:20:14] independent mayor? [2:20:14] >> thank you council member. [2:20:17] Great question for someone [2:20:17] sitting in my position of [2:20:19] continuing to work my intention [2:20:23] is very much to remain with the [2:20:25] caveat that I think I gave to [2:20:27] councilmember earlier about [2:20:28] this has got to be the [2:20:28] priority. [2:20:31] You can't do this job when it's [2:20:31] not the priority. [2:20:36] I think I believe to the extent [2:20:37] there are conflicts they can be [2:20:37] managed. [2:20:39] I think they would be, you [2:20:40] know, few and far between but [2:20:42] they're important when they [2:20:43] arise. [2:20:45] I think we have to work our I [2:20:46] would have to work my way [2:20:47] through the process to make [2:20:48] sure that they are in fact [2:20:48] manageable. [2:20:51] But you know, we've got [2:20:53] examples of you know, richard [2:20:54] ben root was mayor and was [2:20:56] continuing practice and I think [2:20:57] that that is a very successful [2:20:59] mayor. [2:21:01] I believe mayor grant was [2:21:02] continuing to work as time [2:21:05] allowed as an architect during [2:21:07] his time. [2:21:07] i believe mayor mccrory [2:21:10] continued to you know, with the [2:21:11] connection employment with duke [2:21:12] energy. [2:21:15] I think there is a model here [2:21:15] in perhaps one of the things [2:21:18] that's helpful for for for all [2:21:21] of the lawyer jokes out that [2:21:21] it's helpful to lawyers is you [2:21:25] know, this is one of the things [2:21:27] we do that the question of [2:21:27] ethics and being thoughtful and [2:21:30] being careful not to say anyone [2:21:31] else does it but it is a part [2:21:33] of the profession. [2:21:33] It's who we are. [2:21:36] So I would I would I think it's [2:21:36] a manageable situation and I'd [2:21:39] look forward to managing it. [2:21:41] I would air on the side of [2:21:43] protecting the city's interest [2:21:46] in getting the job done. [2:21:47] But you know my intent at this [2:21:49] point is to to maintain my [2:21:50] partnership with robinson [2:21:54] rather problems strength. [2:21:55] Thank you. [2:21:58] How important are [2:21:58] intergovernmental relationships [2:22:01] to the city's agenda and I know [2:22:03] that you've alluded to this but [2:22:04] what in particular are ways [2:22:06] that you as mayor would work [2:22:07] with our intergovernmental [2:22:10] relations partners to achieve [2:22:10] outcomes for our city? [2:22:13] I think I got done I was I was [2:22:15] making sure I looked at was [2:22:16] attentive to the time I mean I [2:22:18] think there is a you know [2:22:19] hierarchy is the wrong word [2:22:21] there there's a list of [2:22:24] partners that we need to, you [2:22:24] know, work with. [2:22:27] I think probably we have good [2:22:27] relationship with them but I [2:22:30] would want to jump into that [2:22:30] immediately. [2:22:33] Obviously mecklenburg county in [2:22:36] our you know, dovetailing areas [2:22:39] of of engagement in the city, [2:22:39] making sure that those continue [2:22:41] to work which I think is [2:22:42] communication with you know, [2:22:45] chair general and drell and [2:22:49] others making sure that works. [2:22:50] And then there's you know, the [2:22:52] host of others if you sort of [2:22:53] work your way out from the you [2:22:55] know, through the region, you [2:22:56] know the work that we're now [2:22:58] doing with the you know, [2:23:01] standing up watching, being [2:23:02] standing up, participating and [2:23:04] standing up the metropolitan [2:23:05] public transit transit [2:23:07] authority, the work that we do [2:23:08] on a transportation level with [2:23:12] cart pro the regionalism both [2:23:13] the combination of regionalism [2:23:15] the charlotte metropolitan area [2:23:18] and the shared interests of [2:23:21] municipalities and particularly [2:23:21] large municipalities. [2:23:24] As we go to raleigh and we're [2:23:27] having discussions or debate or [2:23:28] however you want to frame it [2:23:31] having it's not just charlotte, [2:23:31] it's not just raleigh, it's not [2:23:33] just greensboro. [2:23:34] It is the shared interests of [2:23:37] municipalities and the shared [2:23:39] interests of the this in [2:23:40] credible engine for the state [2:23:42] that is the charlotte area. [2:23:43] So I've named a few of the [2:23:45] entities but I think [2:23:46] understanding the importance of [2:23:48] those partnerships is is vital [2:23:48] to access. [2:23:51] We should not be in this on our [2:23:54] own and we are thank you. [2:23:57] >> any other questions, [2:24:00] COUNCILMAN Member as mayor and [2:24:01] then I think we're running [2:24:04] close to it. [2:24:06] >> we've got three minutes and [2:24:07] then you get a closing argument [2:24:09] for one so you got until the [2:24:09] four minutes left. [2:24:09] >> yes. [2:24:10] I just wanted to follow up on [2:24:12] councilmember mayfield's [2:24:14] question about your private [2:24:17] employment, especially in your [2:24:17] case. [2:24:18] >> so I just want to make sure [2:24:20] you said that you would [2:24:21] prioritize the council work [2:24:24] right and did you say you were [2:24:26] willing to step away from your [2:24:27] private employment or you would [2:24:29] maintain the one was your [2:24:30] interest? [2:24:30] >> I would maintain yeah. [2:24:32] No, I recognize the priority of [2:24:37] the city for my own interests [2:24:37] and for those that you know [2:24:40] I've worked for almost 30 years [2:24:45] around you know the the damage [2:24:45] to yours really sort of sense [2:24:48] of self and professionalism if [2:24:51] you don't do this well is [2:24:51] irreversible. [2:24:53] So the focus has to be doing [2:24:54] this well and the advantage in [2:24:57] doing that is it's an 18 month [2:25:01] you know, role and one that you [2:25:03] know, I wouldn't be running for [2:25:03] reelection to. [2:25:06] So it's a defined period where [2:25:08] you realize that your number [2:25:11] one task is serving the council [2:25:11] and the citizens of of [2:25:14] charlotte but I would my intent [2:25:17] is to stay with the with the [2:25:19] firm okay thank you. [2:25:20] And you are a partner, right? [2:25:20] Yes. [2:25:22] Thank you. [2:25:22] >> okay. [2:25:25] Saying that there are more no [2:25:27] more further questions. [2:25:28] You have a one minute closing [2:25:30] argument. [2:25:30] Well, thank you MR. Chair. [2:25:33] I appreciate the opportunity to [2:25:36] interview I take the [2:25:36] opportunity very, very [2:25:36] seriously. [2:25:39] charlotte has been incredibly [2:25:41] good to me and my family. [2:25:42] I believe very strongly in [2:25:45] paying that forward and I think [2:25:47] this is perhaps the ultimate [2:25:48] way of paying that forward. [2:25:48] As I said the other day when I [2:25:51] had my short speech before the [2:25:51] before the council [2:25:54] collaboration and communication [2:25:56] and transparency figuring out [2:25:57] how to work together in an [2:25:59] orderly, continue to work [2:26:00] together in an orderly manner. [2:26:03] I would hope would be hallmarks [2:26:04] of this 18 months and I see [2:26:07] this 18 months as yes there are [2:26:07] going to be immediate [2:26:10] priorities but also as a bridge [2:26:10] from now until the next elected [2:26:13] mayor hoping to put this city [2:26:15] in the next elected mayor and [2:26:15] council's hands in fantastic [2:26:18] shape. [2:26:19] I appreciate the opportunity to [2:26:19] talk to you all today and [2:26:21] thanks so much for all that you [2:26:21] do. [2:26:23] >> you know MR. Harrington, we [2:26:24] really appreciate your [2:26:26] leadership and your commitment [2:26:27] to public service and your [2:26:27] willingness to consider this [2:26:30] opportunity. [2:26:31] And on behalf of the council, [2:26:33] we thank you for your time. [2:26:33] >> thank you. [2:26:38] Thank you. [2:26:39] >> last but not least is carrie [2:26:41] cook. [2:26:43] >> take this. [2:26:44] >> let's take five minutes. [2:26:45] Okay? [2:26:46] >> we'll be back in five [2:27:16] minutes [2:30:03] ready and I as soon as MS.. [2:30:06] Wallington returns we'll get [2:30:08] started again. [2:30:11] Okay. [2:30:13] Give her a second or two and [2:30:16] after the last speaker there's [2:30:17] two process questions that we [2:30:19] have to go through. [2:30:20] >> they should go relatively [2:30:24] quickly so we will see on [2:30:25] monday. [2:30:27] >> yes. [2:30:28] Just to make sure that we're [2:30:28] all on the same page about how [2:30:30] we're going to process what we [2:30:40] do. [2:30:41] And then I sort of brought my [2:30:42] tennis skills with me to the [2:30:43] left straight from here and to [2:30:45] go to the tennis court I'm [2:30:48] playing tennis and district [2:30:51] council member judy's district [2:30:55] today a veterans park. [2:30:57] >> I going have time for that. [2:30:59] >> I got to be there at 6:00 [2:31:00] though. [2:31:03] I have a veterans park. [2:31:11] Oh so and I love the pizza in [2:31:15] the at the university like we [2:31:15] all know that yeah we had the [2:31:17] border guards in court and not [2:31:19] be you know all right I think [2:31:22] we have everybody here so we're [2:31:22] going to call the meeting back [2:31:24] to order. [2:31:25] I think everybody's here. [2:31:27] We have one more speaker and [2:31:27] after the speaker again we have [2:31:29] to quick process items. [2:31:32] We just need to make sure that [2:31:33] there's consensus in the room [2:31:35] in terms of how we move for it. [2:31:57] So we're ready for MR.. [2:31:58] >> welcome. [2:32:05] Thank you. [2:32:06] >> all right. [2:32:07] I want to take this opportunity [2:32:08] to welcome you to the city [2:32:09] council interviews for the [2:32:11] temporary mayor position. [2:32:14] We appreciate your interest in [2:32:14] applying. [2:32:17] You will have a total of 30 [2:32:18] minutes every council member [2:32:21] will have around the questions. [2:32:23] there MAY be a follow up [2:32:23] question or two for [2:32:25] clarification. [2:32:26] The city clerk will let you [2:32:28] know when you get your five [2:32:30] minutes warning and then you'll [2:32:31] get a one minute warning once [2:32:33] that is completed don't feel [2:32:34] free that you have to stop [2:32:38] abruptly finish your thought [2:32:38] and think you'll get a one [2:32:40] minute closing statement [2:32:40] towards the end. [2:32:41] Okay? [2:32:42] Okay. [2:32:45] >> and so so councilmember [2:32:49] shamir will welcome MISS Cook [2:32:49] thank you. [2:32:57] Thank you for having me. [2:32:59] Hi. [2:33:00] >> so the next mayor might play [2:33:02] a major role in shaping the [2:33:03] selection of our direct report [2:33:05] so we have three direct reports [2:33:08] manager, a clerk and attorney. [2:33:10] So how would you ensure city [2:33:11] council is meaningfully [2:33:13] included in that process? [2:33:14] Yes. [2:33:16] And that process is proactive, [2:33:18] transparent and communicating [2:33:19] with all council members and [2:33:20] residents especially in [2:33:22] communities that often feel [2:33:24] decisions are made without them [2:33:24] . [2:33:25] Thank you for the question, [2:33:27] COUNCILWOMAN Asmara and thank [2:33:28] you for the opportunity to be [2:33:30] with you all today. [2:33:30] I appreciate this chance to [2:33:33] speak with you about my [2:33:33] candidacy. [2:33:35] When you think about the role [2:33:38] that the mayor plays with the [2:33:38] city manager and the city clerk [2:33:41] and residents and internal and [2:33:42] external stakeholders more [2:33:45] broadly I mean I think there's [2:33:50] a key emphasis on trust on [2:33:51] transparency, on consensus [2:33:53] building and those are the [2:33:54] things that I have done [2:33:54] throughout my life and [2:33:56] throughout my career on [2:33:59] building trust, on building [2:33:59] relationships. [2:34:00] I'm building consensus and [2:34:02] coalitions with different [2:34:02] groups of people across this [2:34:05] community from the east side to [2:34:08] the west side from north to [2:34:08] south. [2:34:10] I have been in communities and [2:34:11] I think a reputation that I've [2:34:13] had as being both grass tops [2:34:14] and grass roots which I view as [2:34:16] a strength because I can [2:34:17] connect and walk with the folks [2:34:20] across our community hand in [2:34:22] hand, be in the neighborhoods, [2:34:22] understand and talk with [2:34:25] residents but also I can sit [2:34:28] with executive leaders and ask [2:34:28] for their input and ask for [2:34:29] their concerns. [2:34:31] But the biggest thing that I [2:34:33] know that's important to all of [2:34:37] us is for our city to succeed [2:34:37] and for our residents to have [2:34:39] quality of life. [2:34:40] And so when I think about that [2:34:42] for our city to succeed, we've [2:34:42] got to have trust. [2:34:45] We've got to have transparency, [2:34:48] we've got to have efficiency [2:34:48] and we have to deliver results. [2:34:51] And so I am someone who would [2:34:53] work with the three different [2:34:56] entities that COUNCILWOMAN Asma [2:34:59] mentioned to deliver results [2:34:59] but to do it together with you [2:35:02] and to empower you and the [2:35:03] roles that you have as council [2:35:05] to lead I think that's really [2:35:05] important and I think it's [2:35:07] important to listen. [2:35:08] I think it's important to [2:35:10] understand what you all are [2:35:11] wanting to advance and not [2:35:13] bring you a fully baked plan [2:35:16] but come to you for early [2:35:17] iteration, for early feedback, [2:35:19] for opportunity to build [2:35:20] something together that we can [2:35:22] all be proud of. [2:35:23] And so that's you know, when I [2:35:25] think about the way in which [2:35:28] the mayor operates with council [2:35:29] and internal stakeholders and [2:35:31] external stakeholders. [2:35:31] Last night my daughter said [2:35:34] mommy, what does the mayor do? [2:35:35] Said the mayor is a bridge in a [2:35:37] lot of ways and you have to be [2:35:38] a bridge of information. [2:35:40] You have to be trusted and [2:35:41] transparent as a bridge. [2:35:42] I don't want to go over any [2:35:43] bridges that I don't trust. [2:35:45] And so when you have [2:35:46] relationships, when you're able [2:35:48] to work with folks, when you're [2:35:51] able to include people in a [2:35:51] process and galvanize people [2:35:54] and build consensus, those are [2:35:55] the ways that I have led and [2:35:57] been known to lead across our [2:35:59] city for over two decades and [2:35:59] that's what I would continue to [2:36:01] do. [2:36:04] >> councilmember wallington, [2:36:04] good afternoon. [2:36:07] >> yes, charlotte's priorities [2:36:09] are not new conversations but [2:36:10] the tools, partners and scale [2:36:13] of these challenges look very [2:36:14] different than they did even [2:36:14] five years ago. [2:36:16] >> can you walk us through a [2:36:18] specific example of work you [2:36:19] are doing right now or have [2:36:22] done in the very recent past [2:36:22] that directly connects to one [2:36:25] of these priorities? [2:36:25] >> mm hmm. [2:36:26] That's a great question. [2:36:28] Thank you for the question. [2:36:30] COUNCILWOMAN Watlington I I'll [2:36:31] just tell you I'm very excited [2:36:33] about the areas of strategic [2:36:34] focus that you've outlined [2:36:37] since your retreat in MARCH [2:36:38] because all of those areas [2:36:39] whether it's safety, whether [2:36:41] it's housing, whether it's [2:36:42] well-managed government, great [2:36:43] neighborhoods or planning and [2:36:45] investment are areas that I've [2:36:46] worked in over the course of my [2:36:48] career and areas that I've [2:36:48] worked in hand in hand with [2:36:50] residents of the city. [2:36:51] And so just to give a specific [2:36:54] example as requested, you know [2:36:57] over the last couple of years [2:37:00] I've done a couple a number of [2:37:00] significant things I'd say [2:37:02] related to housing and to [2:37:03] workforce development. [2:37:05] And so let me just talk just [2:37:06] for a minute about that. [2:37:09] A few years ago I served on the [2:37:10] city's affordable housing [2:37:11] committee when we were [2:37:12] advancing our opportunity to [2:37:15] move from to think about a [2:37:17] continuum of care for our [2:37:18] residents. [2:37:20] And so not just those who are [2:37:21] unhoused, not just those and [2:37:23] the missing middle not just [2:37:23] those who are moving into [2:37:26] ownership but really thinking [2:37:27] about that continuum and what [2:37:29] we need to do to advance an [2:37:30] opportunity for all of our [2:37:32] people no matter where they are [2:37:34] in trying to find housing and [2:37:35] build their life here in our [2:37:35] city. [2:37:37] And so when I think about the [2:37:40] ways that I've engaged one [2:37:40] again working with city [2:37:43] leaders, working with other [2:37:44] internal and external partners, [2:37:46] building collaborate and [2:37:46] working with folks who are [2:37:49] looking to build and develop [2:37:49] more housing in our city [2:37:52] working to increase the housing [2:37:54] trust fund allocation, thinking [2:37:55] about innovations and ways we [2:37:58] use those dollars and way we [2:38:00] support and increase the supply [2:38:04] of housing preserving our noah [2:38:04] right. [2:38:05] So making sure that a naturally [2:38:06] occurring affordable housing [2:38:07] remains in communities. [2:38:10] And so those are things that [2:38:10] I've done but also currently [2:38:13] serve on the west side [2:38:15] charlotte land trust board and [2:38:16] so continuing to advance the [2:38:18] work there have done that also [2:38:21] in an informal capacity as an [2:38:21] advisor. [2:38:23] >> and so advancing housing [2:38:26] issues so that everybody in [2:38:27] this community even if you are [2:38:29] on the front end of being [2:38:30] unhoused and we're working with [2:38:32] other partners like the county [2:38:33] and others where you need a [2:38:35] continuum of care to support [2:38:36] our residents whether it's [2:38:38] mental health or other services [2:38:40] county services that are needed [2:38:41] that is really important to our [2:38:44] residents to be able to have a [2:38:44] quality of life here. [2:38:47] And so when you think about [2:38:49] those core areas that you all [2:38:49] have outlined as your [2:38:52] priorities I've been working in [2:38:53] all of those areas but those [2:38:55] are some specifics I'd give you [2:38:56] around housing. [2:38:58] The last thing I would say is [2:38:58] that you know, I've partnered [2:39:01] over a number of years a couple [2:39:04] of decades now to work on in [2:39:04] the city's capital investment [2:39:06] plan. [2:39:07] And so when you talk about [2:39:07] investments in streets and [2:39:10] neighborhoods and housing, you [2:39:10] know, I've been on the front [2:39:12] lines of leading our advocacy [2:39:15] and organizing campaigns to [2:39:16] invest in our area so that we [2:39:18] have shared prosperity for our [2:39:19] residents. [2:39:19] And so that's really important [2:39:22] to me because when people have [2:39:24] housing that's connected to [2:39:24] transit, that's connected to [2:39:27] sidewalks, that's connected to [2:39:30] work that allows our folks to [2:39:30] live, work and play here in a [2:39:33] way that everybody can benefit [2:39:33] from. [2:39:34] And so I'm really excited about [2:39:36] that and grateful that you've [2:39:37] outlined it as one of your core [2:39:39] priorities moving ahead. [2:39:40] >> thank you. [2:39:42] Councilmember mayo. [2:39:43] >> thank you. [2:39:45] Good afternoon. [2:39:45] >> how would you ensure [2:39:48] meetings are efficient while [2:39:50] still allowing robust debate [2:39:51] and discussion? [2:39:53] >> that's a great question. [2:39:54] Thank you for the question, [2:39:54] councilmember mayo. [2:39:56] I think over the years what [2:39:57] I've been able to demonstrate [2:39:59] in leadership across public, [2:40:01] private and nonprofit sectors [2:40:02] is just someone who is an [2:40:05] active listener but also a [2:40:06] leader and a facilitator. [2:40:09] So I've been able to govern in [2:40:11] rooms, be a strong facilitator, [2:40:14] be someone who is really a [2:40:16] parliamentarian who says okay, [2:40:17] we've got a process. [2:40:17] We're going to stick to our [2:40:20] process and we're going to [2:40:20] drive that process forward to [2:40:23] deliver results for the people [2:40:24] that we're delivering them for. [2:40:26] And so when I think about [2:40:28] effective meeting facilitation, [2:40:32] it's not just about the meeting [2:40:32] itself. [2:40:34] It's about again relationships [2:40:35] ,trust and transparency. [2:40:37] It's about collaboration and [2:40:38] building consensus. [2:40:40] And that's how I've shown up in [2:40:41] our community to work with [2:40:41] residents, to work with [2:40:43] different leaders. [2:40:46] >> and it's how I would want to [2:40:46] show up with each of you if [2:40:49] given the honor of working with [2:40:51] you in that way because that's [2:40:52] the way that we advance things [2:40:57] with with priority that with [2:40:57] the priorities that have been [2:40:58] set up. [2:41:00] And that's the way we advance [2:41:01] them in a way that's best for [2:41:03] our residents because again [2:41:03] everybody wants us to succeed [2:41:05] here so strong trust and [2:41:08] transparency allowing for [2:41:12] discussion and dialog to take [2:41:13] place before you arrive at a [2:41:15] meeting so that there's some [2:41:18] galvanizing and some rapport [2:41:18] and some consensus and some [2:41:21] trust around what we can do [2:41:22] together. [2:41:24] And those are just really [2:41:24] active listening and [2:41:25] facilitation. [2:41:27] Building consent those are just [2:41:30] core tenets of governing well [2:41:30] and continuing to lead to meet [2:41:33] the moment. [2:41:33] And I'll say that, you know, [2:41:36] it's been quite some time since [2:41:39] I finished this this program. [2:41:41] But going back to even serve on [2:41:44] the board at the umc in chapel [2:41:44] hill school of government I [2:41:47] mean we train local leaders to [2:41:47] be effective. [2:41:50] And so that was an important [2:41:50] part of my own professional [2:41:53] journey and allowed me to learn [2:41:56] ways to listen and learn and [2:41:56] lead but also now being a part [2:41:58] of helping to train other [2:41:59] municipal leaders to lead [2:42:01] effectively. [2:42:02] Those are the things that I've [2:42:04] continued to do throughout my [2:42:05] career and it's what I'd want [2:42:05] to bring to meeting [2:42:08] facilitation and to helping to [2:42:08] galvanize this group as we [2:42:11] contend with the issues of the [2:42:13] day to support our city. [2:42:16] >> councilmember anderson, [2:42:16] thank you and welcome. [2:42:17] >> thank you. [2:42:19] In your opinion, what is the [2:42:22] biggest issue or challenge [2:42:24] facing our city today? [2:42:25] And I ask that with the [2:42:28] understanding that we have lots [2:42:28] of challenges. [2:42:30] But if you can pick the one [2:42:32] that you believe is the biggest [2:42:35] and speak to that. [2:42:41] >> so the biggest issue and I [2:42:41] reframe it also as the biggest [2:42:44] opportunity facing our city is [2:42:46] we're a world class city. [2:42:47] The secret is out and we're [2:42:47] growing. [2:42:51] So our growth the 150 plus [2:42:54] people a day who are coming [2:42:54] here balancing that growth in a [2:42:57] way that provides shared [2:42:59] prosperity for all of our [2:43:00] residents and a way that we [2:43:03] make investments in corridors [2:43:06] and communities across the city [2:43:06] in a way that says we're going [2:43:09] to drive this forward with not [2:43:11] only these core priorities but [2:43:12] with the fiscal responsibility [2:43:14] and with the prioritizing [2:43:18] resident voice and the bringing [2:43:20] in of cross-sector stakeholders [2:43:20] . [2:43:20] That's the biggest opportunity [2:43:23] and challenge that I see [2:43:24] because if you don't do that [2:43:26] well you risk losing losing [2:43:28] folks or leaving folks behind [2:43:29] and you risk asking yourself [2:43:32] can our local teachers, can our [2:43:35] firefighters, can our nurses, [2:43:35] can our ems workers can our [2:43:37] neighborhood coalition leaders [2:43:38] and nonprofit leaders and [2:43:41] working families build a [2:43:41] quality of life here? [2:43:44] And I believe they can and will [2:43:44] continue to build a quality of [2:43:46] life here. [2:43:49] If we manage growth well in and [2:43:53] support growth that is that [2:43:53] provides benefits for all of [2:43:55] our residents and they're sure [2:43:58] that prosperity in that growth [2:43:58] . [2:44:01] >> councilmember owens, thank [2:44:01] you, chair. [2:44:01] Good afternoon. [2:44:04] It's nice to see you. [2:44:06] The recent rescission of the [2:44:07] I-77 project recommendation [2:44:09] reflected strong public [2:44:10] engagement and differing [2:44:12] perspectives about [2:44:13] transportation planning. [2:44:15] What do you believe should be [2:44:15] the next step in addressing [2:44:16] congestion and mobility [2:44:18] challenges along the I-77 [2:44:19] corridor? [2:44:21] And how would you as mayor [2:44:22] ensure the public is [2:44:23] meaningfully involved in that [2:44:26] process? [2:44:30] >> COUNCILWOMAN Owens I [2:44:33] appreciate the question and you [2:44:33] know, we hear from residents [2:44:36] that congestion is a concern. [2:44:37] We also hear from residents and [2:44:38] we understand from our [2:44:41] neighbors that they want [2:44:42] quality of life and they want [2:44:42] their voices heard on these [2:44:45] issues. [2:44:45] And so as we think about the [2:44:48] next step and the path forward [2:44:50] again I'm going to go back to [2:44:50] trust. [2:44:51] So building trust with [2:44:53] communities so things happen [2:44:56] with people and not to them. [2:44:56] I'm going to go back to [2:44:59] transparency and being open and [2:45:02] deliberations as a group around [2:45:04] this dais but also open with [2:45:05] the public in the process. [2:45:05] I'm going to go back to [2:45:08] relationships. [2:45:10] So the relationships that that [2:45:13] I've built over the last two [2:45:13] decades plus with legislative [2:45:16] delegations and with [2:45:19] transportation planning [2:45:19] organizations I mean going out [2:45:22] and continuing to find a way to [2:45:25] advance together is important. [2:45:27] So whether it's calling members [2:45:30] of the pta or crypto or calling [2:45:31] on regional mayors, calling on [2:45:34] others to say all right, we [2:45:37] need to sit around the table [2:45:37] and identify how we're going to [2:45:39] address the demands that we [2:45:40] have with our growth and the [2:45:42] demands that we have so people [2:45:43] can continue to enjoy a quality [2:45:45] of life here. [2:45:46] And we have to do that [2:45:46] strategically. [2:45:48] But it has to be people first [2:45:49] and people centered. [2:45:51] And so that's what I would say. [2:45:53] I mean I, I am firmly [2:45:56] supportive of making sure our [2:45:57] neighborhoods have connectivity [2:46:00] making sure folks can continue [2:46:02] to enjoy the neighborhoods that [2:46:02] they built. [2:46:05] But also balancing that with [2:46:08] our growth demands. [2:46:09] And so I think a path forward [2:46:11] is to say when we come back [2:46:13] around the table and nothing is [2:46:14] in my career I've learned that [2:46:17] you got to give a little bit [2:46:17] and you got to be able to, you [2:46:19] know, sort of there's a push [2:46:20] and pull and there's a dynamic [2:46:24] in place where nobody will get [2:46:24] 100% of everything they want. [2:46:27] but I've been able to work with [2:46:27] different groups and say how do [2:46:30] we build a coalition advance a [2:46:33] solution and deliver results [2:46:34] for our people that everybody [2:46:36] can live with and that [2:46:37] everybody will be proud of? [2:46:40] In some way everybody won't get [2:46:41] 100% but that's what it takes [2:46:44] to lead and govern is to find a [2:46:46] solution and find a path [2:46:46] forward. [2:46:49] >> councilmember joyce thank [2:46:49] you, MR. Chair. [2:46:52] Good afternoon. [2:46:52] >> good afternoon. [2:46:54] In order to achieve a more [2:46:55] orderly council process, how [2:46:58] would you work outside of [2:47:00] meetings to help council [2:47:01] identify priorities and achieve [2:47:03] consensus? [2:47:08] >> I would work outside of the [2:47:09] process doing the things I've [2:47:11] been doing for my entire life [2:47:14] which are showing up listening [2:47:17] actively leading, intentionally [2:47:20] building coalitions across [2:47:23] sectors, working with [2:47:23] stakeholders. [2:47:26] Again the significant some [2:47:26] building relationships and [2:47:27] working with stakeholders [2:47:29] working with local neighborhood [2:47:30] groups, working with corporate [2:47:32] partners, working with [2:47:32] neighborhood partners, working [2:47:35] with all of the folks that it [2:47:35] takes to get things done. [2:47:38] I mean that's how I would show [2:47:39] up to continue to advance [2:47:41] processes. [2:47:41] It's it's the ways that I've [2:47:43] always shown up with [2:47:44] communication with active [2:47:46] listening trust, transparency [2:47:47] and also an acknowledgment that [2:47:49] I don't have all the answers so [2:47:52] I don't have all the answers. [2:47:53] You all are listening to your [2:47:55] different constituencies and [2:47:56] representing different [2:47:58] perspectives and that's a [2:48:01] difficult process. [2:48:02] But through that process and [2:48:04] through being out hearing from [2:48:07] folks advocating I mean you [2:48:09] really in this role have to be [2:48:10] someone who's willing to pick [2:48:13] up the phone, go to raleigh, go [2:48:14] to washington, go to the places [2:48:16] and sit with the people even [2:48:18] when you disagree and say how [2:48:19] do we get to a point and a [2:48:21] place of agreement to advance [2:48:22] charlotte's priorities for [2:48:22] charlotte's people? [2:48:25] And so I think that's an [2:48:25] important thing that I've done [2:48:27] in my career is calling on [2:48:30] state legislative delegations [2:48:30] whether it's business growth [2:48:33] and expansion, whether it's [2:48:33] education and supporting our [2:48:36] talent pipeline, whether it's [2:48:38] investments in how we think [2:48:39] about growing our city. [2:48:41] I mean all of those things are [2:48:42] things that I've done and I'm [2:48:44] comfortable to do on day one [2:48:44] and they would be an extension [2:48:46] of the work that I've already [2:48:47] done. [2:48:47] >> thank you. [2:48:51] I get the time to say. [2:48:52] >> councilmember mayfield, [2:48:54] thank you. [2:48:55] Thank you so much for joining [2:48:57] us today. [2:49:00] >> how do you plan to maintain [2:49:01] your employment and do this [2:49:04] role as this does take up a [2:49:06] significant amount of time? [2:49:09] >> well, I've recently [2:49:09] transitioned from employment [2:49:11] and so I'm at a great place in [2:49:14] my life and part of this was [2:49:15] the impetus or the catalyst to [2:49:17] say what's next? [2:49:18] What are you going to do next? [2:49:20] how are you going to serve [2:49:20] next? [2:49:21] How are you going to step in [2:49:21] next? [2:49:24] So recently I led community [2:49:26] development for the fed and was [2:49:29] able to drive investments and [2:49:29] analyze data and inform [2:49:32] monetary policy to support [2:49:35] communities across across six [2:49:38] states and then work with folks [2:49:40] across our country around our [2:49:40] best practices, around [2:49:42] solutions, around low income [2:49:43] communities being better [2:49:46] capitalized and better [2:49:48] supported with building [2:49:49] capacity and making investments [2:49:51] everything from skills and [2:49:56] access to jobs to non-school [2:49:58] based barriers around housing, [2:50:01] transportation, education those [2:50:01] things. [2:50:04] And so my career has been one [2:50:06] that spanned public private [2:50:07] nonprofit grassroots sectors [2:50:10] and now I'm at a place in my [2:50:12] life where I've taken a pause [2:50:13] to evaluate what is the next [2:50:13] step. [2:50:16] So I am able to fully devote [2:50:18] myself to this endeavor with [2:50:19] you all and advancing the [2:50:21] priorities. [2:50:24] Of course I have a family and [2:50:26] so that is always going to be [2:50:26] first and foremost for me. [2:50:29] But I very much as I have [2:50:32] always done lean in to leading [2:50:34] and different areas of my life [2:50:37] and it would be an honor to [2:50:37] lean in to lead with you in [2:50:40] this season knowing that there [2:50:41] is an interim period and then [2:50:43] voters will next fall choose [2:50:43] their next mayor. [2:50:45] But there's an interim period [2:50:46] to help support and advance the [2:50:49] issues that we all care about. [2:50:51] For charlotte teens to succeed [2:50:51] . [2:50:54] >> and councilmember jd. [2:50:54] Thank you chair graham. [2:50:57] Thank you MS.. [2:50:57] Capps for being here. [2:50:59] Charlotte is a growing city but [2:51:02] too often growth is shaped and [2:51:05] leaving folks behind especially [2:51:05] working families. [2:51:06] How would you balance being [2:51:08] business friendly and people [2:51:08] first and ensuring that our [2:51:11] private partners are [2:51:11] collaborative partners and [2:51:14] closing socioeconomic gaps? [2:51:14] >> yeah, that's a great [2:51:16] question and thank you for for [2:51:17] it. [2:51:19] Councilmember I, I think [2:51:22] balancing business friendly [2:51:23] with people first is the [2:51:26] epitome of who I've had to be [2:51:28] over the course of my career. [2:51:29] And so when I think about [2:51:32] balancing the opportunity to [2:51:34] talk with court corporate [2:51:34] partners whether it was when I [2:51:38] started long ago, long before [2:51:38] this city started talking about [2:51:40] economic mobility and social [2:51:43] capital when I built programs [2:51:44] that invested in young girls in [2:51:47] this city and invested in youth [2:51:47] in our city and brought [2:51:49] corporate partners to the table [2:51:50] to say you have to be a part of [2:51:52] building our local talent [2:51:53] pipeline. [2:51:55] I mean that work existed long [2:51:56] before someone told us that we [2:51:58] needed to work on economic [2:52:00] mobility in the city and then [2:52:01] it just continued from there. [2:52:04] So the balance of saying hi [2:52:06] corporate partners we need you. [2:52:07] We can't do this work to the [2:52:08] exclusion of you. [2:52:09] We need you around the table [2:52:10] for these difficult issues. [2:52:12] But we also we're we're here [2:52:15] for our people and so our [2:52:15] people have to be the ones that [2:52:18] are at the table making [2:52:18] decisions, driving decisions, [2:52:19] putting forward input. [2:52:21] And I'll just give you examples [2:52:21] of what I've been able to do [2:52:24] that one of the recent examples [2:52:26] was when I launched green light [2:52:27] fund charlotte and was able to [2:52:30] galvanize a number of public [2:52:31] private nonprofit partners [2:52:33] partnered with the city and the [2:52:36] county to make investments in [2:52:37] in workforce and launching the [2:52:39] center for employment [2:52:40] opportunity charlotte at the [2:52:42] goodwill opportunity campus so [2:52:43] that neighbors could have jobs [2:52:45] in our community and have [2:52:46] financial stability and [2:52:48] security also helped to launch [2:52:49] financial security. [2:52:51] Clt which is a coalition of [2:52:53] folks working together to make [2:52:54] sure families can build a life [2:52:54] here. [2:52:57] And when we're allowing and [2:52:59] making sure that those [2:53:02] opportunities are possible, [2:53:02] you're working with folks who [2:53:05] we have to say corporate [2:53:05] partners. [2:53:07] We need you side by side with [2:53:10] us in this because many of the [2:53:11] corporate partners are [2:53:11] employing the residents of this [2:53:13] city. [2:53:14] And so when you think about the [2:53:16] chance to invest in things like [2:53:19] the center for employment [2:53:20] opportunities, invest in youth [2:53:22] advocate program and [2:53:22] alternatives to violence which [2:53:25] was another thing that we [2:53:28] launched and it was in a few of [2:53:28] you all's districts and the [2:53:31] program has now expanded across [2:53:31] the city when we are able to [2:53:34] bring together those strong [2:53:34] partnerships with city, with [2:53:37] county, with private sector [2:53:39] stakeholders whom we're also in [2:53:42] those collaborations to hire [2:53:43] our residents and make sure [2:53:45] they had a pathway to financial [2:53:45] security. [2:53:46] Those are the things that I've [2:53:48] continued to do throughout my [2:53:49] career and I think it's an [2:53:51] important balance. [2:53:52] >> so I've always tried to be a [2:53:54] consensus builder, a trust [2:53:54] builder, someone that leads [2:53:57] with servant leadership quite [2:53:59] frankly and a heart for people [2:54:00] but also understands the [2:54:02] dynamics and the different [2:54:03] stakeholders that have to be [2:54:05] around the table together. [2:54:05] Thank you. [2:54:08] Council member johnson. [2:54:18] Thank you. [2:54:21] Thank you for I'm sorry. [2:54:21] >> thank you for your [2:54:23] willingness to serve. [2:54:26] For my question I'm sorry while [2:54:27] you're looking for your [2:54:30] question I'm going to inject [2:54:32] one more thing to councilmember [2:54:34] jade's point and you know this [2:54:37] is just really point a point of [2:54:38] pride because when I think [2:54:38] about the partners that we've [2:54:41] worked with annie charlotte and [2:54:41] the charlotte bilingual [2:54:44] preschool and our bridge four [2:54:44] kids and a number of other [2:54:46] partners and hired local [2:54:48] parents to be educators and be [2:54:49] neighborhood partners and to be [2:54:49] leaders. [2:54:52] I mean those types of [2:54:52] collaborations with public [2:54:55] private and nonprofit partners. [2:54:57] I mean I've just really gained [2:55:00] a tremendous amount of respect [2:55:01] and pride to be able to work [2:55:03] with folks across east [2:55:06] charlotte and bring programs [2:55:09] and investment into an area [2:55:09] that sometimes has not always [2:55:11] received that investment. [2:55:12] Thank you so much. [2:55:15] Thank you for your willingness [2:55:15] to serve. [2:55:15] >> to serve. [2:55:18] What concerns, if any, do you [2:55:20] think the public might have [2:55:20] about your appointment as [2:55:23] interim mayor and how would you [2:55:24] address those concerns? [2:55:26] And there is a second part [2:55:26] also. [2:55:27] Okay. [2:55:28] Thank you for that question, [2:55:29] councilmember johnson. [2:55:34] Concern is what I've heard to [2:55:35] community and what I've also [2:55:37] heard to business. [2:55:40] And so you know, I find that to [2:55:41] be an interesting balance of [2:55:43] concerns and a good mix quite [2:55:46] frankly because you want to [2:55:49] have trust across a number of [2:55:50] different stakeholders. [2:55:52] And so for people to say she's [2:55:52] to community she's been [2:55:55] organizing on the ground, she's [2:55:56] been lead a nonprofit, she's [2:55:57] been doing this and for other [2:55:58] people to say she too business [2:56:00] she's been at the chamber, [2:56:01] she's been at the fair and [2:56:02] she's been at these places. [2:56:04] I mean I think that's what we [2:56:06] would aspire to have in a [2:56:06] leader who has sat at the [2:56:09] table, who has advanced issues, [2:56:12] who knows what people across [2:56:15] different perspectives are [2:56:15] leaning into, who has [2:56:18] relationships across those [2:56:18] different groups. [2:56:19] I mean I think that's the kind [2:56:21] of person that is uniquely [2:56:22] served in this moment and I [2:56:23] have those relationships, [2:56:24] skills and experiences. [2:56:27] And again, I'm going to go back [2:56:27] to trust relationships [2:56:30] transparent and consensus [2:56:31] building because those are the [2:56:32] things that I think are [2:56:33] important and the challenges [2:56:35] that people would say I think [2:56:36] are the very things that would [2:56:39] help us be successful together [2:56:39] for charlotte against. [2:56:41] >> okay let's do a time check. [2:56:45] >> councilmember drakes is out [2:56:48] there being q if I can I'm [2:56:50] sorry I think she into this. [2:56:50] What's the second part? [2:56:51] I'm sorry. [2:56:52] I think she answered it so we [2:56:53] might be able to move on. [2:56:55] But additionally what strength [2:56:56] and experiences do you believe [2:56:58] make you well-suited for this [2:56:59] role? [2:56:59] >> yeah. [2:56:59] Okay. [2:57:02] Yeah. [2:57:04] >> so she answers that part of [2:57:04] it. [2:57:07] >> can I have some member? [2:57:07] >> that's why mike isn't going [2:57:10] to and and you want to be q [2:57:10] yes. [2:57:10] >> all right. [2:57:12] So councilmember drags [2:57:15] councilmember justice in. [2:57:17] Q and I don't see on the other [2:57:20] hand council member jd. [2:57:23] >> so how important are [2:57:23] intergovernmental relationships [2:57:26] to the city's agenda and what [2:57:27] are ways you as mayor would [2:57:30] work with our intergovernmental [2:57:32] partners to achieve outcomes [2:57:32] for our city? [2:57:33] >> that's a great question. [2:57:35] Thank you. [2:57:36] Councilmember driggs I mean [2:57:38] intergovernmental in [2:57:38] governmental relations are [2:57:41] incredibly important and going [2:57:43] back to you know, 20 years ago [2:57:44] when I moved back to charlotte [2:57:45] after completing my studies [2:57:48] coming in to bgr meetings and [2:57:49] sitting around and making sure [2:57:51] I'm hearing the issues of the [2:57:52] day and still continuing [2:57:54] continuing to do that today has [2:57:55] allowed me to build [2:57:57] relationships with city [2:57:58] leaders, with county leaders, [2:58:00] with school board leaders, with [2:58:03] state legislative delegation [2:58:03] and federal delegations again [2:58:06] with rnal mayors and [2:58:06] colleagues and local planning [2:58:09] and transportation and [2:58:09] investment organizations. [2:58:11] And so doing that work over a [2:58:15] number of of of years has [2:58:15] really just provided an [2:58:17] opportunity to be thoughtful [2:58:21] with partners to be fearless as [2:58:24] an advocate for charlotte's [2:58:24] issues and charlotte's [2:58:24] priorities. [2:58:27] >> so whether it was trying to [2:58:28] determine how we continue to [2:58:31] lean into emerging industries [2:58:31] around logistics or [2:58:34] transportation or energy or any [2:58:34] number of things you know, [2:58:36] working together with [2:58:39] colleagues with regional mayors [2:58:41] ,with you know, other regional [2:58:42] transportation groups, state [2:58:44] federal groups that's really [2:58:45] important. [2:58:47] So intergovernmental is [2:58:48] something that I believe we [2:58:51] have to continue to do really [2:58:53] well to advance charlotte's [2:58:53] priorities and charlotte's [2:58:56] issues and it's something I'm [2:58:56] comfortable with. [2:58:58] I'm comfortable picking up the [2:58:58] phone. [2:58:59] I'm comfortable getting on the [2:58:59] road. [2:59:01] I'm comfortable leaning in and [2:59:02] having conversations with [2:59:04] people who again sometimes have [2:59:04] different perspectives and [2:59:07] experiences but at the end of [2:59:10] the day you do that because for [2:59:11] me it's about being an advocate [2:59:13] for our people and moving our [2:59:13] issues forward and I'm very [2:59:16] much aligned with the core [2:59:16] issues and priorities that you [2:59:18] all have outlined and would be [2:59:19] excited to support those and [2:59:22] pick up the phone and be a [2:59:25] chief advocate for the city and [2:59:25] for our people. [2:59:25] >> okay. [2:59:27] So the five minute warning was [2:59:29] given a minute ago so you [2:59:29] probably got about four minutes [2:59:29] left. [2:59:30] >> okay. [2:59:31] Councilmember johnson's then q [2:59:33] and then councilmember jd [2:59:37] charlotte adopted an ordinance [2:59:40] in 2024 related to individuals [2:59:40] who are unhoused. [2:59:41] What are your thoughts on those [2:59:43] policies and charlotte's [2:59:43] overall approach to [2:59:45] homelessness? [2:59:46] >> thank you. [2:59:48] Council member johnson for the [2:59:48] question. [2:59:51] So again I'm going to go back [2:59:53] to a couple of things with [2:59:54] housing and thinking about it [2:59:57] on a continuum. [2:59:57] So when we start with our [3:00:00] unhoused neighbors, I think we [3:00:03] do have to continue to advance [3:00:04] policies that increase the [3:00:06] supply of housing and provide [3:00:07] housing for our neighbors who [3:00:09] are unhoused. [3:00:10] But we also have to be [3:00:12] thoughtful about the partners [3:00:13] that are around the table and [3:00:15] think innovatively about how we [3:00:16] continue to address the issues [3:00:18] around our unhoused neighbors. [3:00:19] And so one of the things again [3:00:21] coming back to the question is [3:00:24] how do we partner with other [3:00:24] folks? [3:00:25] Going back to COUNCILMAN Greg's [3:00:27] question, intergovernmental. [3:00:29] And so the county has a big [3:00:30] part in this. [3:00:30] And when we think about some of [3:00:33] the reasons that our neighbors [3:00:34] are unhoused including mental [3:00:35] health and other challenges. [3:00:36] And so you know, part of part [3:00:39] of my thoughts are around yes, [3:00:41] we have to advance policies and [3:00:42] opportunities to increase [3:00:44] housing supply. [3:00:45] We have to advance [3:00:47] opportunities for stakeholders [3:00:48] to build a continuum of care [3:00:51] together so that we can move [3:00:53] neighbors from being unhoused [3:00:54] into housing stability. [3:00:57] And we also have to think about [3:00:58] not just housing stability but [3:01:00] economic mobility and [3:01:00] opportunity. [3:01:03] So once somebody is stable, how [3:01:03] do they now participate in [3:01:06] market rate rent? [3:01:06] How do they now participate in [3:01:08] home ownership later on down [3:01:08] the line? [3:01:09] And there are so many partner [3:01:11] is good phenomenal partners in [3:01:14] this community from you know [3:01:17] yeah dream key partners to [3:01:19] other developers and partners [3:01:22] to a number of housing [3:01:23] organizations habitat charley I [3:01:25] mean a number of housing [3:01:26] organizations public and [3:01:28] private partners and nonprofit [3:01:29] partners who are working to [3:01:31] advance issues. [3:01:34] >> I mean you've got liz clasen [3:01:34] you've just got so many leaders [3:01:37] around this community that are [3:01:39] doing work around housing and [3:01:40] building and bringing people [3:01:43] together who have been doing [3:01:43] the work for years. [3:01:44] and so I think just continuing [3:01:46] to advance those issues is [3:01:46] important. [3:01:48] >> councilmember jd and then [3:01:49] probably a quick response [3:01:55] contract for charlotte's [3:01:56] airport is one of our most [3:01:56] important anomic engines. [3:01:59] How will you ensure that [3:02:01] charlotte continues to protect [3:02:01] that economic engine but also [3:02:04] protecting airport service [3:02:07] workers and their conditions? [3:02:07] >> thank you for the question, [3:02:10] councilmember jd. [3:02:13] >> so charlotte's airport is a [3:02:14] tremendous asset for our city [3:02:16] and for our residents to live, [3:02:16] work and play and be mobile. [3:02:18] When I think about the issues [3:02:19] and opportunities, you know a [3:02:22] couple of things at play. [3:02:24] One, you've got an opportunity [3:02:25] to think about how to support [3:02:28] the workers who work at the [3:02:28] airport. [3:02:30] I recognize the time is running [3:02:31] short to you have an [3:02:31] opportunity. [3:02:33] We don't want to wait until we [3:02:35] get 18 months from now to [3:02:35] really get into the details of [3:02:39] renewing this lease and talk [3:02:39] about what it's going to take [3:02:41] to make sure that there's [3:02:42] satisfactorily satisfactory [3:02:44] satisfactory agreement amongst [3:02:45] all the parties. [3:02:47] So I think just again trust [3:02:50] transparency, engagement early [3:02:51] understanding the tremendous [3:02:53] asset that the airport is [3:02:54] understanding that we have to [3:02:56] balance that with workers [3:02:56] ability to live here and build [3:02:58] a life here. [3:02:59] I think all of those things are [3:03:02] in the balance here. [3:03:04] But again we're fortunate to [3:03:05] live in a city with an asset [3:03:07] like our airport. [3:03:10] And so a combination of [3:03:13] consensus building thoughtful [3:03:13] processes and negotiations [3:03:16] supporting workers ability to [3:03:18] live here and build a life here [3:03:19] and being thoughtful with [3:03:21] advanced planning that allows [3:03:24] us to continue to make the [3:03:25] investments that we need for [3:03:28] our citizens to enjoy this city [3:03:28] is what I would say is [3:03:30] important here. [3:03:31] Hmm. [3:03:31] Okay. [3:03:33] Very good. [3:03:33] Okay. [3:03:36] So you have a minute and to [3:03:37] share with the council and in [3:03:39] closing thoughts. [3:03:40] >> well I just would say thank [3:03:41] you. [3:03:42] I think we're in a moment where [3:03:45] my skills, my heart, my [3:03:48] experiences and the way that [3:03:50] I've led are really uniquely [3:03:51] positioned to help us move [3:03:54] forward. [3:04:00] And so I don't I don't believe [3:04:02] that anybody around this table [3:04:03] is not here for charlotte's [3:04:03] best interests. [3:04:05] And while there are different [3:04:06] constituencies and different [3:04:08] issues and different groups, [3:04:11] what I do believe is that we're [3:04:12] all here now in a unique moment [3:04:14] to be able to advance and [3:04:14] balance the growth and [3:04:18] opportunities in this city with [3:04:21] the ways in which everybody can [3:04:23] share in the benefits of that [3:04:23] growth in that prosperity. [3:04:26] And so I'm a charlotte. [3:04:26] I was raised in charlotte. [3:04:29] My mom is you know, my schiro [3:04:32] and we grew up in COUNCILWOMAN [3:04:34] Johnson's district. [3:04:34] Bought my first home in [3:04:37] councilmember graham's district [3:04:37] and you know, have done [3:04:40] organizing and work in [3:04:40] councilmember watlington [3:04:41] district. [3:04:43] I've organized with folks in [3:04:44] COUNCILWOMAN Ashman's district. [3:04:46] And so last week or last month [3:04:48] I spoke to a economic club in [3:04:51] COUNCILMAN Driggs district. [3:04:52] I mean I've just really had an [3:04:54] opportunity to show up in [3:04:54] spaces and places across the [3:04:57] city again without a title. [3:05:00] I did this long before there [3:05:01] was ever a title associated [3:05:03] with it because I just believe [3:05:03] in and I love our city. [3:05:06] I have imported a husband into [3:05:06] this city. [3:05:09] We have we have had two [3:05:10] children here and it's just a [3:05:12] great joy to continue to build [3:05:14] a life here and I'd love to [3:05:15] partner with you to do that for [3:05:17] for our residents. [3:05:18] >> well, let me thank you for [3:05:20] your leadership and your [3:05:23] commitment to public service [3:05:25] and for showing up and showing [3:05:28] up today as a candidate and we [3:05:29] appreciate the opportunity to [3:05:31] hear from you today. [3:05:36] >> thank you all so much. [3:05:37] >> council we have to we have [3:05:39] to process questions that [3:05:42] should take relatively short [3:05:42] period of time, right? [3:05:45] So here we go. [3:05:48] The first question is to to [3:05:50] determine the number of [3:05:52] nominees on the ballot for JUNE [3:05:52] 22nd. [3:05:55] I would suspect that we're [3:05:55] advancing all five candidates. [3:05:58] Is there consensus on that? [3:05:59] Correct. [3:05:59] Okay. [3:06:01] The second question is to [3:06:03] determine the number of those [3:06:06] required to proceed subsequent [3:06:09] balance if necessary I.E. [3:06:12] Obviously of a candidate gets [3:06:12] six votes. [3:06:14] They are our winner. [3:06:16] If a candidate doesn't get six [3:06:18] vote, are we in agreement that [3:06:19] the two top vote getters will [3:06:24] move forward for a runoff? [3:06:27] >> councilmember anderson then [3:06:27] councilmember mayfield, thank [3:06:28] you. [3:06:30] >> thank you. [3:06:33] So I just want to combine this [3:06:33] with what we heard from city [3:06:34] attorney. [3:06:35] I believe on monday. [3:06:38] So I'm open to this discussion. [3:06:43] But should we think about a [3:06:44] threshold of votes? [3:06:44] Right. [3:06:47] And so if for example someone [3:06:50] gets five votes and then the [3:06:53] next person closes gets two [3:06:56] votes, should we think about a [3:06:56] threshold of you have to at [3:07:00] least have, you know, three or [3:07:00] more votes or four more votes [3:07:03] to advance? [3:07:04] Is this a question I want to [3:07:06] put out a put out here? [3:07:06] Clearly I hope we can get the [3:07:07] six and then we don't have to [3:07:08] worry about this. [3:07:09] But as we try to prepare the [3:07:12] process ahead of time so we [3:07:14] don't have confusion on monday [3:07:14] . [3:07:15] >> thank you. [3:07:15] So we have mayfield and [3:07:17] wellington in q. [3:07:17] Thank you. [3:07:21] So on the same line as far as [3:07:23] the threshold I've shared when [3:07:28] we had small group discussion I [3:07:28] do think there needs to be a [3:07:31] threshold for me that threshold [3:07:31] is five or more. [3:07:33] >> six is the majority I would [3:07:36] hope that we would be able to [3:07:40] garner support of more than six [3:07:43] for the individual that will be [3:07:45] stepping into this role. [3:07:47] I don't think three is the [3:07:52] number for us to get to four [3:07:55] conversation on monday. [3:07:57] >> I would hope that we have [3:08:00] the opportunity and can [3:08:03] identify our majority or better [3:08:04] for individual. [3:08:06] I know was stated that if it's [3:08:09] six they automatically get it. [3:08:11] Personally I'm looking for [3:08:11] seven and nine. [3:08:14] If not consensus of 11 that [3:08:17] might be a little bit more [3:08:18] difficult but six is the [3:08:19] minimum threshold. [3:08:21] I think we have the opportunity [3:08:24] to do better than six for this [3:08:27] person is going to be stepping [3:08:27] in. [3:08:28] So I do agree that we should [3:08:28] have a threshold. [3:08:30] I just don't think it should be [3:08:31] as low as three. [3:08:31] >> right. [3:08:34] Just reminding the council that [3:08:38] there will be 11 votes cast on [3:08:41] monday night so that's our five [3:08:41] folks. [3:08:44] So I think you need to take [3:08:46] that into consideration. [3:08:47] Councilmember wallington, then [3:08:48] councilmember dreyfuss and q [3:08:51] councilmembers I'm assuming [3:08:52] that's you. [3:08:52] >> thank you, MR. Chair. [3:08:53] And maybe this what you just [3:08:55] spoke to maybe addresses my [3:08:55] question. [3:08:57] I'm not I'm attorney can you [3:08:58] just remind us of what you [3:09:00] recommend it if anything last [3:09:01] time in terms of number of [3:09:06] nominations for the dia for the [3:09:06] day? [3:09:07] DR. Watlington thank you for [3:09:08] the question for the day of [3:09:09] each councilmember I [3:09:09] recommended that each [3:09:12] councilmember would have one [3:09:15] vote and the minimum threshold [3:09:15] in reference to councilmember [3:09:18] matos point I suggested that at [3:09:19] a minimum three to keep it to [3:09:20] keep it moving forward to [3:09:22] advance to subsequent balance [3:09:23] ballots if required but [3:09:25] certainly as council's [3:09:25] pleasure. [3:09:25] >> okay. [3:09:28] So with that I would I would [3:09:30] support keeping it at three [3:09:32] simply because if we each only [3:09:33] get one vote and you get more [3:09:35] than I'm just not sure how that [3:09:38] would even work if you have to [3:09:39] have at least five that means [3:09:40] only two people could even be [3:09:40] in contention and that means [3:09:42] the other person lost. [3:09:47] So I'm saying if if if you're [3:09:49] saying that you have to have [3:09:51] five or 6 or 7 to get it and we [3:09:53] each only cast one vote if one [3:09:53] person has five and then the [3:09:59] others have three and three for [3:10:01] example, that means we are [3:10:01] awarding or I don't say [3:10:04] awarding we're appointing a [3:10:04] mayor with less than a council [3:10:06] majority vote and that doesn't [3:10:07] feel procedurally correct? [3:10:09] >> correct. [3:10:13] >> so I could I well, I concur [3:10:13] with that. [3:10:16] Councilmember draitser thank [3:10:16] you. [3:10:19] >> the next I'm sorry and then [3:10:22] COUNCILMAN Asha mira and I [3:10:25] think I saw a and go up. [3:10:26] >> okay concept of address. [3:10:27] So we need to think about sort [3:10:29] of the contingencies how the [3:10:29] numbers could play out right, [3:10:30] right. [3:10:32] If you had two people that had [3:10:35] four votes for example and [3:10:35] somebody had three then you [3:10:38] weren't you bring the two [3:10:38] forward. [3:10:40] If somebody has six right away [3:10:40] their chosen. [3:10:40] Mm hmm. [3:10:42] What about five? [3:10:45] >> three and three? [3:10:46] >> that's what mine. [3:10:46] Yeah. [3:10:48] So that's a tough one because [3:10:51] now you don't have a basis, [3:10:51] right? [3:10:54] You could have a runoff between [3:10:56] the true three getters to [3:10:59] determine who is in there and [3:11:02] then run them against the top [3:11:03] three. [3:11:03] Right. [3:11:04] I mean that would strike me as [3:11:08] being the best way to do that. [3:11:08] And I think with that we've [3:11:11] probably covered the bases. [3:11:11] >> I'm not sure there's a I [3:11:14] mean it would be weird, right? [3:11:16] 11 votes and if all five of [3:11:18] them get two or something could [3:11:18] happen though. [3:11:24] So I guess as I say you bring [3:11:26] forward the top vote getter or [3:11:26] the two tied top vote getters [3:11:29] and if people are tied at less [3:11:31] to the top you then run them [3:11:32] off against each other and try [3:11:34] to get it narrowed down that [3:11:35] way. [3:11:35] >> okay. [3:11:38] So councilmember asmir so I [3:11:40] just want to make sure I am [3:11:43] clear on what what MR. Drake [3:11:43] said. [3:11:46] So you are not suggesting any [3:11:46] threshold correct? [3:11:49] >> well, I'm looking at the [3:11:49] possible. [3:11:51] >> no, I'm just saying I guess [3:11:54] I'm just sort of yeah, I agree [3:11:55] or I agree with you if you have [3:11:57] if you have a situation where [3:11:59] nobody got six right. [3:12:00] So then obviously you're going [3:12:02] to have a top person you may [3:12:03] have a tie for the top, you run [3:12:04] those. [3:12:05] No, I get it. [3:12:06] I just I just want to make sure [3:12:07] we are clear. [3:12:07] You are not suggesting a [3:12:10] threshold and I agree with that [3:12:13] approach where there is no [3:12:15] threshold but maybe just the [3:12:18] top three ends up or I remember [3:12:21] how did we do with empty did we [3:12:24] empty a process? [3:12:26] I know there are four and I [3:12:27] just wanted to if the attorney [3:12:29] can if you've got six because [3:12:31] the empty process was it wasn't [3:12:32] easy, right? [3:12:34] >> appointment process. [3:12:35] I want to see if we could [3:12:37] replicate that for the final [3:12:37] round. [3:12:41] >> so the challenge well excuse [3:12:41] me council member as mayor has [3:12:43] the floor so we so we can hear [3:12:46] attorney the one noteworthy [3:12:48] distinction between the empty [3:12:49] process and this process is [3:12:52] that each council member only [3:12:53] has one vote. [3:12:54] >> you had multiple votes for [3:12:56] the final round. [3:12:58] >> we only had one meeting. [3:13:02] >> oh yeah, after the [3:13:02] interview. [3:13:05] >> but you were voting for [3:13:05] different categories, right? [3:13:08] That's there and in this [3:13:08] instance at all times each [3:13:11] council member will have one [3:13:11] vote. [3:13:13] >> councilmember mayo has the [3:13:13] floor. [3:13:14] >> thank you. [3:13:14] I'd actually like to make a [3:13:16] motion regarding this so I [3:13:19] would like to move that we when [3:13:20] we're doing our first round of [3:13:22] ballot five we do the top two [3:13:24] vote getters and if there is a [3:13:25] tie that we do a runoff between [3:13:31] those two is to determine who [3:13:31] will be you know what the top [3:13:34] vote getter and then we're just [3:13:34] having two people go against [3:13:36] each other if we have to go to [3:13:37] around to this emotion on the [3:13:38] floor. [3:13:42] So second, just a comment I [3:13:44] made you pay and oh I [3:13:47] discussion I'm asking for a [3:13:48] clarification. [3:13:50] >> well please address the [3:13:52] chair so we can all here right [3:13:53] right. [3:13:53] That's what that's what that's [3:13:56] the purpose right so it's been [3:13:58] properly moved. [3:13:58] It's been properly second [3:14:00] councilmember drake's has a [3:14:04] comment so just so I understand [3:14:04] clearly right if you have a top [3:14:09] vote getter and you have a tie [3:14:09] for second place then what I'm [3:14:12] suggesting is you have a runoff [3:14:13] between the two second place [3:14:14] people in order to determine [3:14:17] then who will run off against [3:14:17] the top vote getter. [3:14:19] >> yes. [3:14:19] All right. [3:14:20] So is that your motion? [3:14:20] Yes, sir. [3:14:22] All right. [3:14:23] So can favor that. [3:14:23] All right. [3:14:25] Councilmember anderson is [3:14:25] recognized. [3:14:26] >> councilmember owens is. [3:14:27] Thank you. [3:14:28] Okay. [3:14:33] So I so so in that scenario if [3:14:33] we have and I'm not sure it's [3:14:36] going to happen but if we have [3:14:40] two people that have five votes [3:14:43] ,how will we advance from that [3:14:46] in the midst of your in your [3:14:48] motion that there's 11 votes [3:14:49] being casted? [3:14:51] I understand but it still is [3:14:53] this is math. [3:14:56] two candidates could get five [3:14:58] and there could be two [3:14:59] candidates with five one [3:15:00] candidate and one so I'm just [3:15:03] asking in the face of this [3:15:05] motion city attorney hat how [3:15:08] would that work? [3:15:12] The five turn is recognize [3:15:14] thank you MR. Chair. [3:15:18] The five and five would they [3:15:18] would they would runoff to [3:15:21] select the mayoral candidate [3:15:23] the the let's say that the [3:15:24] third highest vote getter would [3:15:26] would fall off and they would [3:15:27] just be the top that one. [3:15:27] >> perfect. [3:15:29] I just wanted to have clarity [3:15:32] so the mathematics right [3:15:34] exactly exactly right comes MAY [3:15:42] feel thank you so the scenario [3:15:44] that I'm considering is the six [3:15:49] five to me six five is because [3:15:51] that's where we land more often [3:15:54] than not I don't the add to me [3:15:56] that's a one off because where [3:15:56] 11 members to me that will be [3:15:59] the top two I don't think for [3:16:01] this particular position that [3:16:05] we are looking at for mayor out [3:16:08] of five candidates that by that [3:16:11] one vote individual should then [3:16:11] be appointed mayor. [3:16:14] I feel like if we're looking at [3:16:15] a five and we're and we have [3:16:17] the opportunity to get to the [3:16:20] top two, then if it's a65 vote [3:16:23] when it's all done and that's [3:16:25] all 11 counted that that six [3:16:25] five are the two that would go [3:16:27] to the runoff. [3:16:28] That's why I want to try to [3:16:31] make sure that it's clear if [3:16:33] there's more clarity. [3:16:36] So I I'm I'm saying I'm not [3:16:39] saying what I bill and make [3:16:41] sure you capture I am saying [3:16:44] clearly that I do not think for [3:16:45] this particular opportunity [3:16:47] when we are appointing a mayor [3:16:50] that the standard six out of 11 [3:16:52] should automatically be [3:16:56] appointed if we have and this [3:16:57] is only if when the votes come [3:17:01] in if we have a65, then those [3:17:04] two should be in the top two. [3:17:04] I think we should give [3:17:05] ourselves at least the [3:17:07] opportunity of having a choice [3:17:09] of two and not just say well [3:17:11] out of 11 members six chose [3:17:12] this particular person. [3:17:14] So this should be the person [3:17:17] that or even if it is six four [3:17:19] and one person abstains I just [3:17:19] want to make sure that we do [3:17:21] have another opportunity to [3:17:24] ensure that we are identifying [3:17:28] who we think is the most [3:17:30] appropriate right now to serve [3:17:33] in this role of our city and I [3:17:33] just don't think doing the [3:17:38] minimum the bare minimum of six [3:17:38] out of the 11 which is our [3:17:40] majority for this particular [3:17:45] well in a dream world we will [3:17:46] be closer to eight nine if not [3:17:50] for consensus but if it is a [3:17:52] sample and example of a65 to me [3:17:55] that's the top two and those [3:17:58] would be the two that we choose [3:17:59] between four runoff. [3:18:01] So I just wanted to make sure [3:18:03] that I had that in the minutes [3:18:03] . [3:18:06] Councilmember owens so my [3:18:09] question has morphed a bit in [3:18:12] light of that comment. [3:18:13] I'm I'm processing that but for [3:18:17] me if you do have a65 for me [3:18:20] that does not suggest that you [3:18:21] would then go to a runoff [3:18:23] because you've had those 11 [3:18:23] votes and you would just [3:18:24] continue to perpetuate a65 [3:18:27] potentially that was the runoff [3:18:27] . [3:18:30] So that that is the runoff. [3:18:33] So I would propose that we not [3:18:36] advance for a supermajority for [3:18:40] for you to do a simple majority [3:18:42] as we do our votes. [3:18:43] I think it is it is commendable [3:18:46] the aspiration that we would [3:18:47] have a degree of consensus [3:18:48] around us. [3:18:49] I think it would serve the city [3:18:51] well if we were aligned and we [3:18:53] were to communicate with one [3:18:54] voice and we did achieve [3:18:56] unanimity. [3:18:59] But I don't want to handicap us [3:18:59] to continue to perpetuate a [3:19:03] repeat six five vote as you [3:19:04] advance those two people to a [3:19:04] runoff. [3:19:07] I would I would propose that we [3:19:09] maintain the motion which I [3:19:10] believe is on the floor that it [3:19:13] would be as simple majority and [3:19:15] we would adopt MR. Driggs [3:19:16] language with respect to what [3:19:20] would happen were we to have a [3:19:21] five as the as the dominant and [3:19:23] then the other votes split [3:19:25] between parties that we would [3:19:26] sort it the way that he [3:19:26] suggested. [3:19:29] Thank you, chair and then after [3:19:32] of that scenario plays comes [3:19:32] into play. [3:19:35] We can also have another vote [3:19:38] to accept the the the nominee [3:19:41] by consensus and which I think [3:19:43] we should do right no matter [3:19:44] who who the winner is because I [3:19:46] think it's really important [3:19:49] that we do that right. [3:19:52] So we can we can do that. [3:19:53] >> I think that's appropriate [3:19:54] recommendation. [3:19:55] I think it's just protocol [3:19:57] right? [3:19:58] That's for somebody to just do [3:20:00] it right make that motion out [3:20:03] so councilmember anderson, just [3:20:06] a point of information. [3:20:08] Can the clerk read what the [3:20:09] motion is that we're about to [3:20:11] vote on the motion made by MS.. [3:20:12] maio second by MS.. [3:20:15] Mayfield it was taught to vote [3:20:15] getters move forward and if we [3:20:17] have the time we do a runoff. [3:20:20] >> okay. [3:20:21] >> and that's right, [3:20:24] councilmember anderson has the [3:20:24] floor. [3:20:26] >> that's what that's why I was [3:20:26] asking because I just heard [3:20:27] something a little bit [3:20:29] different. [3:20:29] Yeah. [3:20:32] I thought I thought that that [3:20:32] was the motion. [3:20:33] Right. [3:20:35] But then I just heard I want to [3:20:36] sort of make sure we're all on [3:20:37] the same page here. [3:20:37] The top vote getter will [3:20:40] advance clearly if there's a [3:20:41] top vote getter and they don't [3:20:42] get six but I just heard that [3:20:45] then the rest of them would [3:20:47] have a runoff to select the top [3:20:48] two. [3:20:48] That's only if there's a tie. [3:20:50] Is that correct? [3:20:51] >> right. [3:20:51] I just want to make sure we [3:20:53] were all on the same page [3:20:54] because I just heard something [3:20:54] different. [3:20:54] >> okay. [3:20:56] Councilmember dres johnson and [3:20:57] everyone have a question so I [3:20:59] want to clarify. [3:21:01] Top vote getter less than six, [3:21:01] right? [3:21:02] You got a runoff. [3:21:04] Okay. [3:21:07] Then that person runs against [3:21:07] the second highest vote getter [3:21:09] if there's a tie for second [3:21:12] place then you have a runoff [3:21:13] between those two to determine [3:21:15] who will run off against the [3:21:18] five vote getter for the final [3:21:18] outcome. [3:21:21] So I'm not sure the motion [3:21:24] captures that does it then I [3:21:27] can I can add that to it except [3:21:31] the but then the amendment okay [3:21:32] so go to the chair so we so we [3:21:34] can everyone can kind of know [3:21:37] what we're doing right now. [3:21:39] >> you still have okay thank [3:21:42] you chair pro-tem you're doing [3:21:42] a great job. [3:21:45] >> I think I'd like to ask q so [3:21:47] the clerk has captured the [3:21:50] elements of councilmember [3:21:50] anderson's question about the [3:21:52] motion? [3:21:52] Yes. [3:21:55] The top vote getter they get [3:21:57] less than six that person in [3:22:00] the other individual will have [3:22:03] a runoff. [3:22:03] >> so that's incorporated in [3:22:04] the motion that's on the floor. [3:22:07] So let me ask a question I [3:22:07] think this clarifies it. [3:22:09] COUNCILMAN Johnson, you have [3:22:09] the floor. [3:22:10] >> thank you. [3:22:11] If someone is if this for three [3:22:14] to and then a tie at one they [3:22:17] don't have a tiebreaker it's [3:22:19] only if the second place has a [3:22:19] tie. [3:22:20] Is that correct? [3:22:22] We're only advancing the top [3:22:23] two. [3:22:23] Okay. [3:22:26] So the bottom number is a tie [3:22:26] then that's we're not advancing [3:22:28] that. [3:22:28] Okay. [3:22:29] So that's the clarification. [3:22:31] It's not an automatic tie [3:22:31] breaker. [3:22:33] It's only if the second place [3:22:35] has a tie. [3:22:38] That's right. [3:22:38] >> yeah. [3:22:38] Thank you. [3:22:39] Thank you. [3:22:41] Are we all good? [3:22:42] >> have any clarifying [3:22:43] questions? [3:22:44] Are we ready for the vote? [3:22:46] Yes. [3:22:47] >> can you read the motion one [3:22:49] more time? [3:22:52] >> so now I got you a little [3:22:54] bit but the top two vote [3:22:56] getters or the top vote getter [3:22:58] that is less than six. [3:22:59] Those two people will have a [3:23:04] runoff if there is a tie right [3:23:04] . [3:23:07] >> if I MAY MAY I MAY MAY I [3:23:08] take a stab so if we have a top [3:23:11] vote getter who has less than [3:23:12] six, that top vote getter will [3:23:14] advance if the second place is [3:23:17] a tie. [3:23:18] That's right. [3:23:18] There will be a runoff between [3:23:22] the second place to two people [3:23:23] two candidates in the second [3:23:24] place and the winner of that [3:23:27] runoff will vance against the [3:23:29] top vote get it? [3:23:30] >> that's right. [3:23:30] Is that correct? [3:23:32] That is the motion. [3:23:33] We all good? [3:23:35] Yeah, we're ready to vote. [3:23:36] All right, let's all those in [3:23:40] favor say I, I all those oppose [3:23:41] the ayes have it. [3:23:44] Last item is process, right? [3:23:47] So it is my understanding that [3:23:49] the ballots will be distributed [3:23:52] to the council members at the [3:23:53] beginning of the 530 meeting. [3:23:57] There is not a oh right. [3:23:58] All right. [3:24:00] I'm turning help me out. [3:24:03] >> thank you MR. Chair. [3:24:04] >> this is a little bit [3:24:06] different than your typical [3:24:06] process for boards and [3:24:09] commissions. [3:24:12] The proposal is that the ballot [3:24:12] would be provided at the [3:24:15] beginning of your 530 meeting. [3:24:17] You will have a hard copy [3:24:20] ballot and envelope. [3:24:20] You will fill out the ballot, [3:24:23] you will turn it into the [3:24:23] clerk's office or [3:24:26] representatives from the [3:24:27] clerk's office will be present. [3:24:28] You will turn it in the meeting [3:24:29] will begin. [3:24:32] The clerk's office will tally [3:24:32] while the meeting is is ensuing [3:24:35] and will prepare a report. [3:24:38] It will be provided to MADAM [3:24:40] MADAM mayor to read the results [3:24:43] and if we have a winner we have [3:24:43] a winner. [3:24:46] If not we will proceed as we've [3:24:48] outlined here today. [3:24:49] >> okay. [3:24:49] The only thing that we [3:24:52] discussed earlier and I just [3:24:52] want council impact there there [3:24:54] will be public speakers coming [3:24:57] to speak to the issue. [3:24:58] The question is should we wait [3:25:00] until after they make their [3:25:03] presentation to vote or do you [3:25:06] guys want to vote at the [3:25:06] beginning of the main that's [3:25:11] just a question for the for so [3:25:11] I recognize council member [3:25:14] always raise your hand I'll get [3:25:15] you council member always comes [3:25:17] from member jd council member [3:25:19] kashmir and q just a question [3:25:20] yes or no a process. [3:25:23] >> thank you chair. [3:25:24] I am in favor of awaiting an [3:25:26] actual vote until we've heard [3:25:26] from the community. [3:25:28] I think that the community has [3:25:29] probably felt a bit of [3:25:32] disintermediation and we need [3:25:32] to do all within our power to [3:25:34] help them feel incorporated [3:25:35] into our process. [3:25:37] And so voting before we've [3:25:38] heard for them seems contrary [3:25:40] to that. [3:25:41] So I would be a fan of not [3:25:43] doing that. [3:25:44] >> councilmember jd short and [3:25:44] sweet. [3:25:46] I agree with that. [3:25:48] Councilmember asmir okay. [3:25:49] >> and council member anderson [3:25:51] question I'm sorry, just a [3:25:52] question because I just looked [3:25:54] at the agenda. [3:25:57] So when is that taking place in [3:26:02] the space of the agenda and and [3:26:05] the reason why I ask is if it's [3:26:08] not at the appropriate space in [3:26:11] the beginning should we [3:26:14] deliberate around whether we [3:26:15] should move it up so residents [3:26:17] aren't sitting here all night [3:26:17] as we conduct our business [3:26:19] agenda. [3:26:22] Let me I agree with that. [3:26:23] The clerk has been raising her [3:26:25] hand for a while so let's hear [3:26:26] from her and then we'll come [3:26:28] back out to council member [3:26:33] anderson's question is item 22 [3:26:36] on the agenda which is the part [3:26:36] of the agenda where you [3:26:37] normally would have [3:26:39] appointments to boards and [3:26:40] commissions because you do have [3:26:42] an appointment to the planning [3:26:44] commission also that night I [3:26:47] was just also going to add that [3:26:50] as of this moment we don't have [3:26:51] any speakers that have signed [3:26:54] up to item 22 just yet. [3:26:57] However today is thursday and [3:26:59] persons could sign up to speak [3:27:02] to that agenda item between now [3:27:03] and monday or even at the [3:27:05] meeting for that matter. [3:27:08] So I just wanted to provide [3:27:11] that information. [3:27:11] I heard councilmember male [3:27:14] COUNCILMAN Anderson thank you. [3:27:15] >> okay, I'm in. [3:27:16] You yes. [3:27:17] Okay. [3:27:20] Male can can MADAM Clerk when [3:27:22] would you recommend that we [3:27:23] potentially add this? [3:27:25] i'd rather be respectful of [3:27:28] residents time and start the [3:27:29] public hearing for the mayor [3:27:31] interim mayoral race and then [3:27:34] we have our vote so that you [3:27:37] know people have other things [3:27:37] to do in the evening they can [3:27:39] when what will be your [3:27:40] recommendation looking at the [3:27:42] agenda perhaps if not after the [3:27:45] public because you also have a [3:27:48] public forum that night so [3:27:50] there will be you know we have [3:27:52] probably at least 15 people or [3:27:53] close to 15 people signed up [3:27:58] for the public forum on monday [3:28:01] and perhaps after that or [3:28:02] either at the time of the city [3:28:05] manager's report in that area. [3:28:06] One of those two things but [3:28:07] there is a public forum [3:28:09] scheduled for monday at 530. [3:28:13] >> okay, councilmember drew, [3:28:15] I'm not very comfortable and so [3:28:15] I'm sorry. [3:28:20] >> thank you again I'm review [3:28:21] ing the agenda which I did [3:28:23] earlier. [3:28:26] So we do have a public forum [3:28:29] but this particular item is not [3:28:32] under the section of public [3:28:34] hearings and so I just raise [3:28:35] that because we hadn't [3:28:37] discussed that the whole [3:28:37] concept of having a public [3:28:41] hearing on this particular [3:28:41] item. [3:28:43] So I just want to make sure and [3:28:46] in the public hearing section [3:28:49] here is it's not listed it is [3:28:50] not a public hearing. [3:28:52] >> however it is an agenda item [3:28:55] and the public can speak to any [3:28:58] item on your agenda if they [3:28:58] sign up in it in advance. [3:29:01] Well at the meeting even if [3:29:03] it's just an agenda item you [3:29:05] know the title number 22 so [3:29:08] they could potentially someone [3:29:11] could sign up to speak. [3:29:11] i understand. [3:29:12] Thank you. [3:29:12] I just wanted to speak to the [3:29:14] fact that we actually hadn't [3:29:16] had that discussion as a body [3:29:19] around this action so thank [3:29:19] you. [3:29:22] >> so I suggest that we kind of [3:29:25] move it up on the agenda right [3:29:25] after the public hearing that [3:29:28] we're we we and we can also do [3:29:28] the other appointment. [3:29:30] I think it's only one at the [3:29:32] same time we just advance it on [3:29:33] the agenda so the public won't [3:29:35] be waiting there all night. [3:29:36] That's my recommendation. [3:29:39] Councilmember drex, you're on. [3:29:39] >> yeah, I agree with that MR. [3:29:40] Chair. [3:29:42] I'm just wondering have we [3:29:42] published that agenda already? [3:29:44] >> yes. [3:29:44] >> all right. [3:29:45] So then what action does it [3:29:47] take by us if any formally to [3:29:50] just move it up? [3:29:53] City clerk's it would just be a [3:29:55] matter of communicate that to [3:29:58] the manager's office and to [3:29:59] strategy and budget. [3:30:01] I don't know that there's [3:30:02] necessarily a need to republish [3:30:04] the agenda just to move an item [3:30:04] up. [3:30:07] We could just make them aware [3:30:09] of council's desire to consider [3:30:13] this at a earlier time in the [3:30:13] meeting. [3:30:13] >> okay. [3:30:15] Council member jd councilmember [3:30:16] owens then we're going to close [3:30:18] out to discussion. [3:30:19] Could I follow up a quick [3:30:21] follow up for councilmember [3:30:21] driggs? [3:30:22] >> so if somebody wanted to [3:30:24] sign up and they came late and [3:30:26] you had already done it I mean [3:30:29] it's a technical issue but [3:30:29] somebody could show up later in [3:30:32] the meeting seeing 22 and then [3:30:34] be told oh no, they already did [3:30:34] that. [3:30:37] >> so I just want to be sure [3:30:38] that we observed the right [3:30:38] procedure. [3:30:40] >> in fact, councilmember owens [3:30:41] ,I'd like to ask the question [3:30:43] of the city attorney can you [3:30:45] clarify that point and what is [3:30:45] best practice? [3:30:46] Does it make more sense to [3:30:49] publish that obviate the need [3:30:51] for somebody arriving and not [3:30:52] being able to speak in light of [3:30:54] council's decision today I [3:30:55] would highly recommend [3:30:55] republishing the agenda with [3:30:58] directing the manager's office [3:30:58] and team and staff to bring [3:31:01] published to the agenda what [3:31:01] they're being moved higher up [3:31:03] in the agenda. [3:31:04] >> yeah. [3:31:04] Thank you. [3:31:04] All right. [3:31:07] Councilmember jaideep then we [3:31:07] can kind of close this [3:31:10] conversation we don't need a [3:31:10] motion but if we could just can [3:31:11] this get consent? [3:31:12] Well, we can get consensus. [3:31:13] >> is that the direction of [3:31:13] council? [3:31:15] Yes, after the public form, to [3:31:18] be clear correct. [3:31:18] Okay. [3:31:18] Thank you. [3:31:21] Because this is just a [3:31:22] suggestion to get our [3:31:24] communications team to disperse [3:31:25] this and our social media [3:31:27] channels to ensure that all [3:31:28] constituents are aware that [3:31:30] they can speak. [3:31:30] Okay. [3:31:33] That sounds good to me. [3:31:33] All right. [3:31:35] So no votes necessary just [3:31:35] consensus. [3:31:39] MADAM Attorney. [3:31:40] MADAM Clerk, we're all on the [3:31:41] same page again. [3:31:44] So even when we if there is a [3:31:45] runoff you will get another [3:31:46] ballot. [3:31:47] I just want to make sure in the [3:31:49] envelope you will mark they'll [3:31:52] go back and they'll calculate [3:31:53] and come out again and give it [3:31:55] to the mayor and she will make [3:31:55] the announcement. [3:31:58] >> all right. [3:31:59] Motion to adjourn. [3:32:00] Second I'm going to recognize [3:32:03] comes from a majority today. [3:32:04] >> I want to take your motion. [3:32:04] Thank you. [3:32:06] Just to clarify and this is if [3:32:06] there's a runoff, it's going to [3:32:09] be done monday the 22nd. [3:32:09] Right? [3:32:09] It's all done. [3:32:09] Okay. [3:32:12] Same night. [3:32:12] Okay. [3:32:13] And accepting a nomination. [3:32:13] Right. [3:32:14] Okay. [3:32:15] All right. [3:32:15] Good. [3:32:15] Okay. [3:32:16] Big day, everyone. [3:32:17] I know that councilmember [3:32:20] mayfair also kind of a motion [3:32:21] to adjourn. [3:32:23] I did maybe second of the [3:32:25] second I said this is let's go [3:32:26] home. [3:32:26] >> thank you. [3:32:57] Thank you for