1 00:00:01,343 --> 00:00:02,478 anonymously if you're not ready 2 00:00:02,478 --> 00:00:03,712 to file a police report. 3 00:00:03,712 --> 00:00:05,748 Whatever you're feeling is 4 00:00:05,748 --> 00:00:06,949 valid. You're not alone. There 5 00:00:06,949 --> 00:00:08,818 are resources out there for 6 00:00:08,818 --> 00:00:10,186 you. We stand with survivors 7 00:00:10,186 --> 00:00:11,870 and we are here to support you 8 00:00:11,870 --> 00:00:14,687 in whatever way we can. It's. 9 00:02:12,744 --> 00:02:13,511 Meeting to order. 10 00:02:13,511 --> 00:02:14,312 >> we have a quorum. 11 00:02:14,312 --> 00:02:15,246 This evening. 12 00:02:15,246 --> 00:02:15,880 Thanks to. 13 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,115 You all for. 14 00:02:17,115 --> 00:02:18,683 Joining here in person. 15 00:02:18,683 --> 00:02:20,818 And those watching online. 16 00:02:20,818 --> 00:02:21,753 We'll start with introductions. 17 00:02:21,753 --> 00:02:22,220 Going around the room. 18 00:02:22,220 --> 00:02:22,787 Starting with. 19 00:02:22,787 --> 00:02:24,655 >> our city. 20 00:02:24,655 --> 00:02:26,524 >> clerk billy tons. 21 00:02:26,524 --> 00:02:26,857 Deputy city clerk andrea 22 00:02:26,857 --> 00:02:27,658 leslie, vice. 23 00:02:27,658 --> 00:02:29,227 City attorney. 24 00:02:29,227 --> 00:02:30,195 Good evening. 25 00:02:30,195 --> 00:02:31,229 I'm victoria wellington. 26 00:02:31,229 --> 00:02:32,230 I have the pleasure of serving 27 00:02:32,230 --> 00:02:34,399 you as a member at large. 28 00:02:34,399 --> 00:02:34,599 Joy mayo representing district 29 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:36,599 three. 30 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:37,702 Good evening and happy. 31 00:02:37,702 --> 00:02:39,137 Pride week. 32 00:02:39,137 --> 00:02:39,571 Charlotte dante anderson. 33 00:02:39,571 --> 00:02:41,139 District one. 34 00:02:41,139 --> 00:02:41,539 Good evening everybody. 35 00:02:41,539 --> 00:02:42,640 >> and. 36 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:44,976 Mayor pro tem james mitchell. 37 00:02:44,976 --> 00:02:45,309 Good evening everybody rob 38 00:02:45,309 --> 00:02:46,111 harrington. 39 00:02:46,111 --> 00:02:47,450 Mayor marcus. 40 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:47,212 Jones. 41 00:02:47,212 --> 00:02:47,713 . 42 00:02:47,713 --> 00:02:49,414 City manager. 43 00:02:49,414 --> 00:02:49,748 Kimberly owens representing 44 00:02:49,748 --> 00:02:51,316 district six. 45 00:02:51,316 --> 00:02:53,351 Malcolm graham district three. 46 00:02:53,351 --> 00:02:54,152 The wanted mayfield council 47 00:02:54,152 --> 00:02:55,720 member at large. 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,655 Good evening, jd master arias. 49 00:02:56,655 --> 00:02:58,223 District five. 50 00:02:58,223 --> 00:02:59,157 Good evening. 51 00:02:59,157 --> 00:02:59,591 renee johnson. 52 00:02:59,591 --> 00:02:59,891 >> and I'm. 53 00:02:59,891 --> 00:03:00,725 Honored to. 54 00:03:00,725 --> 00:03:02,725 >> represent district four. 55 00:03:03,696 --> 00:03:04,330 Good evening mayor council. 56 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:06,330 Member at large. 57 00:03:06,498 --> 00:03:06,732 Thank you and again good 58 00:03:06,732 --> 00:03:08,434 evening. 59 00:03:08,434 --> 00:03:10,168 We will start our meeting with 60 00:03:10,168 --> 00:03:10,802 items with consideration. 61 00:03:10,802 --> 00:03:11,737 Of the. 62 00:03:11,737 --> 00:03:13,138 >> consent agenda. 63 00:03:13,138 --> 00:03:13,638 Items before. 64 00:03:13,638 --> 00:03:13,872 >> we take. 65 00:03:13,872 --> 00:03:14,773 A vote. 66 00:03:14,773 --> 00:03:17,173 >> are there any uh. 67 00:03:17,442 --> 00:03:17,777 Comment or any for a separate 68 00:03:17,777 --> 00:03:19,777 vote? 69 00:03:22,148 --> 00:03:24,548 Council member johnson first. 70 00:03:27,620 --> 00:03:28,254 Council council. 71 00:03:28,254 --> 00:03:30,222 Member mayfield. 72 00:03:30,222 --> 00:03:30,589 We're both. 73 00:03:30,589 --> 00:03:31,290 >> trying. 74 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:32,992 To get out of. 75 00:03:32,992 --> 00:03:34,726 Cabinet. 76 00:03:34,726 --> 00:03:35,394 >> cabinet whatever works I 77 00:03:35,394 --> 00:03:36,628 don't know to point. 78 00:03:36,628 --> 00:03:38,196 Item number. 79 00:03:38,196 --> 00:03:40,196 >> 23 please. 80 00:03:44,770 --> 00:03:44,937 Just pull for discussion, okay 81 00:03:44,937 --> 00:03:46,937 ? 82 00:03:46,973 --> 00:03:47,439 No no others. 83 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:49,800 Council member. 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:49,508 Johnson council member mayfield 85 00:03:49,508 --> 00:03:51,508 when you're ready. 86 00:03:52,177 --> 00:03:52,778 Thank you. 87 00:03:52,778 --> 00:03:53,712 MR. Mayor. 88 00:03:53,712 --> 00:03:55,712 Actually as. 89 00:03:55,914 --> 00:03:56,683 Had um I was able to tune. 90 00:03:56,683 --> 00:03:58,251 In on. 91 00:03:58,251 --> 00:03:59,185 Friday for. 92 00:03:59,185 --> 00:03:59,686 >> a check. 93 00:03:59,686 --> 00:04:00,820 In and. 94 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:02,155 I've asked questions. 95 00:04:02,155 --> 00:04:03,256 So what I would like is. 96 00:04:03,256 --> 00:04:03,723 >> for staff to. 97 00:04:03,723 --> 00:04:05,591 Give the. 98 00:04:05,591 --> 00:04:06,292 Responses to. 99 00:04:06,292 --> 00:04:07,627 >> the items. 100 00:04:07,627 --> 00:04:08,427 >> that we were checking into. 101 00:04:08,427 --> 00:04:08,894 so I guess. 102 00:04:08,894 --> 00:04:10,429 What I'm. 103 00:04:10,429 --> 00:04:10,796 Pulling out for a separate 104 00:04:10,796 --> 00:04:12,665 discussion. 105 00:04:12,665 --> 00:04:14,234 Do you have the. 106 00:04:14,234 --> 00:04:15,635 Response for. 107 00:04:15,635 --> 00:04:17,635 >> what was said? 108 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,720 36. 109 00:04:25,645 --> 00:04:27,213 >> and my apologies for. 110 00:04:27,213 --> 00:04:29,810 Not having this up right now. 111 00:04:29,810 --> 00:04:31,810 Staff is. 112 00:04:32,652 --> 00:04:34,221 Looking number 4847. 113 00:04:34,221 --> 00:04:36,221 Thank you. 114 00:04:37,190 --> 00:04:39,590 For us to have. 115 00:04:40,627 --> 00:04:41,728 Full discussion as well as. 116 00:04:41,728 --> 00:04:42,829 Number 45. 117 00:04:42,829 --> 00:04:43,730 Trying to have a. 118 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:45,730 Better understanding. 119 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,199 So mayor. 120 00:04:48,736 --> 00:04:50,736 45 4748. 121 00:04:51,672 --> 00:04:52,306 That I would like for staff to. 122 00:04:52,306 --> 00:04:54,306 Go over. 123 00:04:54,641 --> 00:04:56,209 The responses. 124 00:04:56,209 --> 00:04:59,209 >> that they submitted to us. 125 00:05:01,214 --> 00:05:03,214 Because I see 46 4748. 126 00:05:04,184 --> 00:05:05,118 But looks like 45. 127 00:05:05,118 --> 00:05:06,687 Which was. 128 00:05:06,687 --> 00:05:08,255 A very. 129 00:05:08,255 --> 00:05:08,722 Specific question. 130 00:05:08,722 --> 00:05:10,591 On the. 131 00:05:10,591 --> 00:05:12,591 2026 tax collect the. 132 00:05:14,270 --> 00:05:14,561 Settlement statement that is. 133 00:05:14,561 --> 00:05:14,962 >> not. 134 00:05:14,962 --> 00:05:16,962 In here. 135 00:05:17,631 --> 00:05:19,966 So want to get. 136 00:05:19,966 --> 00:05:20,300 Those for a separate discussion 137 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:21,701 please. 138 00:05:21,701 --> 00:05:23,436 So council member mayfield the. 139 00:05:23,436 --> 00:05:23,771 List that I wrote down from you 140 00:05:23,771 --> 00:05:25,172 was. 141 00:05:25,172 --> 00:05:25,373 36. 142 00:05:25,373 --> 00:05:27,108 . 143 00:05:27,108 --> 00:05:27,708 4547 and 48. 144 00:05:27,708 --> 00:05:28,642 Yes sir. 145 00:05:28,642 --> 00:05:29,744 Thank you. 146 00:05:29,744 --> 00:05:31,744 And um. 147 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:34,615 I propose that we take a vote 148 00:05:34,615 --> 00:05:34,881 on the remaining items. 149 00:05:34,881 --> 00:05:36,250 Uh. 150 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:38,250 And also given. 151 00:05:38,285 --> 00:05:41,155 the, uh, length of the agenda. 152 00:05:41,155 --> 00:05:41,322 Here um, in here in particular 153 00:05:41,322 --> 00:05:42,690 uh. 154 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:43,958 My proposal uh. 155 00:05:43,958 --> 00:05:44,725 Intent would be to. 156 00:05:44,725 --> 00:05:45,827 Take up the. 157 00:05:45,827 --> 00:05:47,395 Um the. 158 00:05:47,395 --> 00:05:48,629 Items that are no longer. 159 00:05:48,629 --> 00:05:50,629 In consent, uh. 160 00:05:50,665 --> 00:05:52,990 During at the very beginning of 161 00:05:52,990 --> 00:05:53,100 the business meeting in the 162 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:53,501 session in chamber. 163 00:05:53,501 --> 00:05:53,801 >> just. 164 00:05:53,801 --> 00:05:54,702 To fill. 165 00:05:54,702 --> 00:05:56,702 Some time here. 166 00:05:56,737 --> 00:05:57,204 Uh, any problem with that? 167 00:05:57,204 --> 00:05:59,204 Great. 168 00:05:59,708 --> 00:06:00,408 Okay, then we'll. 169 00:06:00,408 --> 00:06:00,809 Vote on the agenda. 170 00:06:00,809 --> 00:06:02,377 Items other. 171 00:06:02,377 --> 00:06:02,643 >> than those accepted. 172 00:06:02,643 --> 00:06:04,643 Second. 173 00:06:04,946 --> 00:06:06,381 >> and the items that are have 174 00:06:06,381 --> 00:06:07,682 been pulled out just for 175 00:06:07,682 --> 00:06:08,749 clarity in the motion. 176 00:06:08,749 --> 00:06:10,749 Are 23. 177 00:06:12,820 --> 00:06:14,820 36, 45, 4748. 178 00:06:15,322 --> 00:06:16,725 Any further discussion on the. 179 00:06:16,725 --> 00:06:18,126 Remaining consent items? 180 00:06:18,126 --> 00:06:18,927 So there. 181 00:06:18,927 --> 00:06:19,694 >> has been a. 182 00:06:19,694 --> 00:06:21,263 Motion made and. 183 00:06:21,263 --> 00:06:22,764 Seconded to approve. 184 00:06:22,764 --> 00:06:25,764 >> the consent items other than 185 00:06:26,367 --> 00:06:28,360 those listed 23, 36, 45 4748 186 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,604 all in favor raise your hand. 187 00:06:29,604 --> 00:06:31,172 Any opposed? 188 00:06:31,172 --> 00:06:31,639 All right. 189 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:33,639 They pass. 190 00:06:39,748 --> 00:06:39,948 I believe we are now ready for 191 00:06:39,948 --> 00:06:41,216 the. 192 00:06:41,216 --> 00:06:42,751 Action preview. 193 00:06:42,751 --> 00:06:43,685 And I'll turn that over to. 194 00:06:43,685 --> 00:06:44,619 Our manager. 195 00:06:44,619 --> 00:06:44,953 Thank you. 196 00:06:44,953 --> 00:06:45,720 Mayor. 197 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,455 Members of council. 198 00:06:47,455 --> 00:06:48,690 Uh, tonight we have uh, three. 199 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:49,791 Items on the. 200 00:06:49,791 --> 00:06:51,791 Action preview. 201 00:06:52,928 --> 00:06:53,729 and as you MAY recall what we 202 00:06:53,729 --> 00:06:55,130 attempt to do. 203 00:06:55,130 --> 00:06:56,231 On the second. 204 00:06:56,231 --> 00:06:57,633 Monday of the. 205 00:06:57,633 --> 00:06:58,567 Month queue up. 206 00:06:58,567 --> 00:06:59,201 Some items. 207 00:06:59,201 --> 00:07:00,302 That MAY be. 208 00:07:00,302 --> 00:07:01,703 Voted on. 209 00:07:01,703 --> 00:07:02,637 On the fourth monday. 210 00:07:02,637 --> 00:07:04,637 Of the month. 211 00:07:04,673 --> 00:07:06,241 So right now um. 212 00:07:06,241 --> 00:07:07,809 What we have is coming out of 213 00:07:07,809 --> 00:07:09,578 committee would be the youth 214 00:07:09,578 --> 00:07:09,779 protection ordinance revisions 215 00:07:09,779 --> 00:07:10,713 . 216 00:07:10,713 --> 00:07:12,713 Model cities. 217 00:07:13,490 --> 00:07:13,215 Initiative grant and parking on 218 00:07:13,215 --> 00:07:14,783 . 219 00:07:14,783 --> 00:07:16,518 Sidewalk ordinance. 220 00:07:16,518 --> 00:07:18,120 Revision and mayor, if there 221 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,188 aren't any questions I'd. 222 00:07:19,188 --> 00:07:20,550 >> like to proceed. 223 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:21,657 >> with the uv. 224 00:07:21,657 --> 00:07:23,192 Protection ordinance revisions. 225 00:07:23,192 --> 00:07:25,192 Please do. 226 00:07:26,162 --> 00:07:26,863 So with. 227 00:07:26,863 --> 00:07:28,970 >> that said. 228 00:07:28,970 --> 00:07:28,965 Mayor, this coming. 229 00:07:28,965 --> 00:07:30,233 >> out of the. 230 00:07:30,233 --> 00:07:32,101 Safety committee. 231 00:07:32,101 --> 00:07:33,903 I believe. 232 00:07:33,903 --> 00:07:35,710 That um we would. 233 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:35,238 >> have council member anderson 234 00:07:35,238 --> 00:07:36,172 . 235 00:07:36,172 --> 00:07:37,139 Tee up. 236 00:07:37,139 --> 00:07:39,139 >> this discussion. 237 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:41,377 Thank you mayor and thank you, 238 00:07:41,377 --> 00:07:43,377 city manager. 239 00:07:45,115 --> 00:07:45,315 We are about to proceed to 240 00:07:45,315 --> 00:07:46,116 walk. 241 00:07:46,116 --> 00:07:47,183 You all through. 242 00:07:47,183 --> 00:07:49,183 The full council. 243 00:07:49,685 --> 00:07:50,320 Through our discussions and. 244 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,721 Um, some. 245 00:07:51,721 --> 00:07:52,989 >> of the findings that came 246 00:07:52,989 --> 00:07:54,590 out of the public safety 247 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:56,359 committee meeting that was held 248 00:07:56,359 --> 00:07:58,394 as a special meeting over our 249 00:07:58,394 --> 00:08:00,162 summer break as it relates to 250 00:08:00,162 --> 00:08:00,629 youth protection ordinances. 251 00:08:00,629 --> 00:08:02,629 um. 252 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:03,867 >> we all have seen the video 253 00:08:03,867 --> 00:08:04,801 and some. 254 00:08:04,801 --> 00:08:06,801 >> of the news. 255 00:08:06,970 --> 00:08:08,738 Updates as it relates to teen 256 00:08:08,738 --> 00:08:11,138 takeovers and unfortunately um 257 00:08:11,407 --> 00:08:11,774 ,some of the challenges that 258 00:08:11,774 --> 00:08:13,774 have. 259 00:08:13,810 --> 00:08:15,545 Occurred throughout our city 260 00:08:15,545 --> 00:08:17,613 from north to south to center 261 00:08:17,613 --> 00:08:20,450 city and I've been working very 262 00:08:20,450 --> 00:08:23,450 closely with uh chief patterson 263 00:08:23,453 --> 00:08:25,355 and uh attorney jessica battle 264 00:08:25,355 --> 00:08:28,955 and dc brierley as well as. 265 00:08:29,426 --> 00:08:30,226 Uh dcm sean heath on how we can 266 00:08:30,226 --> 00:08:31,961 advance this topic. 267 00:08:31,961 --> 00:08:34,631 And so you'll get a briefing 268 00:08:34,631 --> 00:08:34,964 today from from the team on 269 00:08:34,964 --> 00:08:36,964 this topic. 270 00:08:37,334 --> 00:08:39,236 It's important to say that we 271 00:08:39,236 --> 00:08:41,438 will not be voting tonight on 272 00:08:41,438 --> 00:08:43,838 this particular topic because 273 00:08:43,974 --> 00:08:45,275 this we are addressing an 274 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:46,209 ordinance that already exists. 275 00:08:46,209 --> 00:08:47,778 So this is for. 276 00:08:47,778 --> 00:08:49,479 Council's review. 277 00:08:49,479 --> 00:08:51,247 And council's opportunity to 278 00:08:51,247 --> 00:08:52,782 ask questions and delve in. 279 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:55,152 And with that I will hand it 280 00:08:55,152 --> 00:08:55,519 over to uh, chief patterson and 281 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:56,286 her team. 282 00:08:56,286 --> 00:08:58,286 Thank you. 283 00:09:24,748 --> 00:09:25,382 >> all right. 284 00:09:25,382 --> 00:09:25,816 Good evening. 285 00:09:25,816 --> 00:09:26,617 Mayor and. 286 00:09:26,617 --> 00:09:28,617 Council. 287 00:09:28,953 --> 00:09:29,287 >> I want to thank you for 288 00:09:29,287 --> 00:09:29,621 allowing. 289 00:09:29,621 --> 00:09:31,189 >> my. 290 00:09:31,189 --> 00:09:31,656 Staff and I to bring a topic. 291 00:09:31,656 --> 00:09:32,123 >> to. 292 00:09:32,123 --> 00:09:33,291 You that is. 293 00:09:33,291 --> 00:09:35,291 Becoming increasingly. 294 00:09:36,494 --> 00:09:36,827 Disturbing and that is the 295 00:09:36,827 --> 00:09:37,295 safety. 296 00:09:37,295 --> 00:09:38,290 >> of our. 297 00:09:38,290 --> 00:09:38,796 Youth and the community. 298 00:09:38,796 --> 00:09:39,330 In general. 299 00:09:39,330 --> 00:09:39,897 Due to. 300 00:09:39,897 --> 00:09:40,831 >> what we. 301 00:09:40,831 --> 00:09:41,265 >> have been talking about. 302 00:09:41,265 --> 00:09:42,767 >> which. 303 00:09:42,767 --> 00:09:43,670 Is teen takeovers. 304 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:44,168 And I'd. 305 00:09:44,168 --> 00:09:44,869 >> like to take a moment to 306 00:09:44,869 --> 00:09:45,603 thank all the supporters. 307 00:09:45,603 --> 00:09:46,237 Who are in the. 308 00:09:46,237 --> 00:09:47,639 Room today. 309 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:47,973 Those who are joining us in 310 00:09:47,973 --> 00:09:49,374 person and. 311 00:09:49,374 --> 00:09:50,275 Also online. 312 00:09:50,275 --> 00:09:50,675 And I'd. 313 00:09:50,675 --> 00:09:51,276 >> like. 314 00:09:51,276 --> 00:09:52,677 To begin this. 315 00:09:52,677 --> 00:09:53,945 Presentation by providing a 316 00:09:53,945 --> 00:09:55,790 video compilation that we 317 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:55,413 shared with the public safety 318 00:09:55,413 --> 00:09:56,214 committee. 319 00:09:56,214 --> 00:09:56,681 When we brought. 320 00:09:56,681 --> 00:09:57,215 This topic. 321 00:09:57,215 --> 00:09:57,682 >> to. 322 00:09:57,682 --> 00:09:59,250 Them back. 323 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:01,250 In JULY. 324 00:10:07,292 --> 00:10:08,693 Let's see if we. 325 00:10:08,693 --> 00:10:11,693 >> can get the video played. 326 00:10:11,830 --> 00:10:13,231 It was. 327 00:10:13,231 --> 00:10:13,798 >> like being in a movie. 328 00:10:13,798 --> 00:10:14,866 >> and. 329 00:10:14,866 --> 00:10:15,333 Scary all at the. 330 00:10:15,333 --> 00:10:17,333 Same time. 331 00:10:17,836 --> 00:10:19,570 What you're seeing is. 332 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:19,804 Video captured by one of our 333 00:10:19,804 --> 00:10:20,471 viewers. 334 00:10:20,471 --> 00:10:21,240 >> is showing. 335 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,341 The large crowd. 336 00:10:22,341 --> 00:10:24,510 >> of teenagers at camp. 337 00:10:24,510 --> 00:10:25,410 North in the park was shut down 338 00:10:25,410 --> 00:10:26,440 or the floodlights. 339 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:26,812 >> were on. 340 00:10:26,812 --> 00:10:27,746 Vanessa bravo. 341 00:10:27,746 --> 00:10:29,147 Lives in a nearby. 342 00:10:29,147 --> 00:10:29,781 Apartment building and. 343 00:10:29,781 --> 00:10:30,715 Got caught up. 344 00:10:30,715 --> 00:10:31,816 In that commotion. 345 00:10:31,816 --> 00:10:32,917 Now another. 346 00:10:32,917 --> 00:10:34,319 Very serious situation. 347 00:10:34,319 --> 00:10:35,420 Happened at romeo bearden park. 348 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:36,921 Early sunday morning. 349 00:10:36,921 --> 00:10:37,822 Cmpd says they were. 350 00:10:37,822 --> 00:10:39,391 Trying to enforce a youth. 351 00:10:39,391 --> 00:10:41,260 curfew when suddenly. 352 00:10:41,260 --> 00:10:42,995 Shut shots rang out. 353 00:10:42,995 --> 00:10:44,263 Officers say they found two 354 00:10:44,263 --> 00:10:45,197 victims who had been shot. 355 00:10:45,197 --> 00:10:45,597 They were both rushed. 356 00:10:45,597 --> 00:10:45,931 >> to. 357 00:10:45,931 --> 00:10:46,532 The hospital. 358 00:10:46,532 --> 00:10:47,332 >> but we are. 359 00:10:47,332 --> 00:10:48,200 Told they should recover. 360 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,102 Charlotte-mecklenburg police 361 00:10:50,102 --> 00:10:52,300 are keeping their promise and 362 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:52,204 cracking down on teen take over 363 00:10:52,204 --> 00:10:52,838 after. 364 00:10:52,838 --> 00:10:53,472 Receiving tips. 365 00:10:53,472 --> 00:10:55,173 >> of a teen. 366 00:10:55,173 --> 00:10:56,209 Takeover planned for saturday. 367 00:10:56,209 --> 00:10:56,976 Cmpd implemented. 368 00:10:56,976 --> 00:10:57,843 >> a coordinated. 369 00:10:57,843 --> 00:10:58,778 Operational plan. 370 00:10:58,778 --> 00:10:59,378 That resulted. 371 00:10:59,378 --> 00:11:00,179 >> in more than. 372 00:11:00,179 --> 00:11:01,747 20 arrests. 373 00:11:01,747 --> 00:11:02,214 That includes 12 juveniles. 374 00:11:02,214 --> 00:11:02,681 >> and. 375 00:11:02,681 --> 00:11:03,315 Ten adults. 376 00:11:03,315 --> 00:11:04,383 Those adults. 377 00:11:04,383 --> 00:11:05,317 Cited for. 378 00:11:05,317 --> 00:11:06,752 >> contributing to the. 379 00:11:06,752 --> 00:11:09,152 Delinquency of a minor. 380 00:11:10,789 --> 00:11:11,757 Witnesses say they saw 100 to 381 00:11:11,757 --> 00:11:12,290 200 teens filming each other 382 00:11:12,290 --> 00:11:13,193 and blocking traffic. 383 00:11:13,193 --> 00:11:14,293 Let's start. 384 00:11:14,293 --> 00:11:15,395 First at brier creek. 385 00:11:15,395 --> 00:11:17,395 Police say around. 386 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:19,198 1027 saturday night police got 387 00:11:19,198 --> 00:11:20,299 a report of a fight happening 388 00:11:20,299 --> 00:11:21,000 near the movie theater. 389 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,934 They said this was. 390 00:11:21,934 --> 00:11:22,735 Part of a teen. 391 00:11:22,735 --> 00:11:24,735 Takeover. 392 00:11:24,904 --> 00:11:25,404 >> nearly 3000 teens were said 393 00:11:25,404 --> 00:11:26,205 to be there. 394 00:11:26,205 --> 00:11:26,739 Then let's. 395 00:11:26,739 --> 00:11:27,973 >> go to. 396 00:11:27,973 --> 00:11:29,275 Glenwood south around 130 397 00:11:29,275 --> 00:11:30,375 sunday morning. 398 00:11:30,375 --> 00:11:31,311 Officers responded to. 399 00:11:31,311 --> 00:11:31,912 Multiple shootings. 400 00:11:31,912 --> 00:11:32,845 There were. 401 00:11:32,845 --> 00:11:34,414 about 5000. 402 00:11:34,414 --> 00:11:34,781 People involved in that teen 403 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:36,781 takeover. 404 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:37,283 Then three hours later a fight 405 00:11:37,283 --> 00:11:38,840 happened at. 406 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:38,384 >> a gas station. 407 00:11:38,384 --> 00:11:38,951 That fight. 408 00:11:38,951 --> 00:11:39,885 >> led to a. 409 00:11:39,885 --> 00:11:40,820 >> shooting and two. 410 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:42,550 People were shot. 411 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:43,322 Nine people shot after. 412 00:11:43,322 --> 00:11:43,956 Thousands of teens take. 413 00:11:43,956 --> 00:11:44,257 >> over the. 414 00:11:44,257 --> 00:11:45,658 Streets. 415 00:11:45,658 --> 00:11:46,325 >> parents could be held liable 416 00:11:46,325 --> 00:11:46,792 in raleigh. 417 00:11:46,792 --> 00:11:47,727 If their. 418 00:11:47,727 --> 00:11:48,228 >> juvenile kids. 419 00:11:48,228 --> 00:11:48,562 >> are. 420 00:11:48,562 --> 00:11:49,620 Out late. 421 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:50,930 Committing crimes. 422 00:11:50,930 --> 00:11:51,264 After curfew is eventually put 423 00:11:51,264 --> 00:11:52,832 in place. 424 00:11:52,832 --> 00:11:53,867 A violent brawl. 425 00:11:53,867 --> 00:11:54,801 Breaking out. 426 00:11:54,801 --> 00:11:55,735 >> in south carolina. 427 00:11:55,735 --> 00:11:57,300 . 428 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:58,671 >> north charleston police. 429 00:11:58,671 --> 00:11:59,239 Officer tackled to the ground. 430 00:11:59,239 --> 00:12:00,173 >> and. 431 00:12:00,173 --> 00:12:00,873 Pummeled repeatedly during. 432 00:12:00,873 --> 00:12:01,341 >> a 4th of. 433 00:12:01,341 --> 00:12:02,442 >> JULY. 434 00:12:02,442 --> 00:12:02,775 Gathering of teens and young 435 00:12:02,775 --> 00:12:04,343 adults. 436 00:12:04,343 --> 00:12:05,746 That descended into chaos. 437 00:12:05,746 --> 00:12:06,413 13 people. 438 00:12:06,413 --> 00:12:06,914 >> were arrested. 439 00:12:06,914 --> 00:12:08,815 Between the ages. 440 00:12:08,815 --> 00:12:09,249 Of 13 and 20. 441 00:12:09,249 --> 00:12:09,849 Years old. 442 00:12:09,849 --> 00:12:10,250 >> and a. 443 00:12:10,250 --> 00:12:10,684 Growing number. 444 00:12:10,684 --> 00:12:11,385 >> of. 445 00:12:11,385 --> 00:12:11,952 Cities are dealing with. 446 00:12:11,952 --> 00:12:12,385 >> a surge in. 447 00:12:12,385 --> 00:12:13,787 >> the. 448 00:12:13,787 --> 00:12:15,188 So-called teen takeover. 449 00:12:15,188 --> 00:12:16,790 . 450 00:12:16,790 --> 00:12:17,230 That was what newport. 451 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:18,240 beach. 452 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,425 >> california looked like over. 453 00:12:18,425 --> 00:12:18,892 >> the. 454 00:12:18,892 --> 00:12:19,359 Holiday weekend. 455 00:12:19,359 --> 00:12:20,426 More than. 456 00:12:20,426 --> 00:12:21,694 400 people. 457 00:12:21,694 --> 00:12:22,328 Were arrested, most. 458 00:12:22,328 --> 00:12:22,929 Of them. 459 00:12:22,929 --> 00:12:23,730 Young and. 460 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:25,730 >> minors. 461 00:12:27,869 --> 00:12:28,569 >> on the 4th of. 462 00:12:28,569 --> 00:12:29,336 >> JULY madness in. 463 00:12:29,336 --> 00:12:29,803 Newport beach. 464 00:12:29,803 --> 00:12:31,803 More than. 465 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:33,838 400 people arrested. 466 00:12:35,442 --> 00:12:36,276 Officers just declared an 467 00:12:36,276 --> 00:12:37,344 unlawful assembly. 468 00:12:37,344 --> 00:12:38,812 In newport beach. 469 00:12:38,812 --> 00:12:39,512 Police say influencers. 470 00:12:39,512 --> 00:12:41,512 >> are streaming. 471 00:12:42,583 --> 00:12:44,318 Encouraging followers to join 472 00:12:44,318 --> 00:12:46,318 the chaos for. 473 00:12:47,855 --> 00:12:49,356 And this is just some. 474 00:12:49,356 --> 00:12:49,556 >> of the JULY 4th chaos that 475 00:12:49,556 --> 00:12:49,923 took. 476 00:12:49,923 --> 00:12:50,524 >> a. 477 00:12:50,524 --> 00:12:51,325 Dangerous turn in. 478 00:12:51,325 --> 00:12:52,393 Newport beach. 479 00:12:52,393 --> 00:12:52,726 Video shows. 480 00:12:52,726 --> 00:12:54,726 Fireworks. 481 00:12:54,761 --> 00:12:55,620 >> fights and damage to 482 00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:55,896 businesses. 483 00:12:55,896 --> 00:12:57,896 . 484 00:12:57,898 --> 00:12:59,333 Tonight dramatic new. 485 00:12:59,333 --> 00:12:59,500 Video of chicago police pinning 486 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:00,902 . 487 00:13:00,902 --> 00:13:02,902 People down and. 488 00:13:03,104 --> 00:13:03,437 Struggling to quell massive 489 00:13:03,437 --> 00:13:03,905 memorial. 490 00:13:03,905 --> 00:13:04,371 Day crowds. 491 00:13:04,371 --> 00:13:05,306 It's just. 492 00:13:05,306 --> 00:13:05,940 >> becoming a big. 493 00:13:05,940 --> 00:13:06,774 Big problem. 494 00:13:06,774 --> 00:13:07,341 In charlotte. 495 00:13:07,341 --> 00:13:07,975 Unfortunately we. 496 00:13:07,975 --> 00:13:09,543 >> have been. 497 00:13:09,543 --> 00:13:10,100 >> bombarded with. 498 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,245 This chaos. 499 00:13:11,245 --> 00:13:11,879 If you see kids out. 500 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:12,814 You better. 501 00:13:12,814 --> 00:13:13,747 >> stay home. 502 00:13:13,747 --> 00:13:15,115 These young people. 503 00:13:15,115 --> 00:13:15,382 >> know they cannot be 504 00:13:15,382 --> 00:13:16,551 arrested. 505 00:13:16,551 --> 00:13:17,352 They're not going to be. 506 00:13:17,352 --> 00:13:19,530 Charged and they. 507 00:13:19,530 --> 00:13:19,420 Know that they can keep doing 508 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:21,420 this. 509 00:13:22,523 --> 00:13:24,291 So we wanted to share this 510 00:13:24,291 --> 00:13:25,860 video because what you see is. 511 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:26,794 Today's reality for our youth. 512 00:13:26,794 --> 00:13:27,295 And their. 513 00:13:27,295 --> 00:13:28,663 >> desire to. 514 00:13:28,663 --> 00:13:30,970 >> participate in behavior that 515 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:30,898 is becoming increasingly 516 00:13:30,898 --> 00:13:32,320 harmful to them. 517 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,690 To our law enforcement 518 00:13:34,690 --> 00:13:35,360 personnel, to businesses and 519 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,537 patrons and also to the 520 00:13:35,537 --> 00:13:37,537 community at large. 521 00:13:38,506 --> 00:13:39,874 Much of what you just saw we've 522 00:13:39,874 --> 00:13:40,208 experienced right here in. 523 00:13:40,208 --> 00:13:41,342 Charlotte and. 524 00:13:41,342 --> 00:13:43,544 >> over the last two months. 525 00:13:43,544 --> 00:13:45,113 And members of my team and I 526 00:13:45,113 --> 00:13:45,313 have experienced it in real 527 00:13:45,313 --> 00:13:47,181 time. 528 00:13:47,181 --> 00:13:49,250 I'll give you a short preview 529 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:49,450 back on JULY or I'm sorry, JUNE 530 00:13:49,450 --> 00:13:51,153 14th. 531 00:13:51,153 --> 00:13:51,954 I saw firsthand what happens 532 00:13:51,954 --> 00:13:53,522 when a group of. 533 00:13:53,522 --> 00:13:54,356 Teens congregate with no 534 00:13:54,356 --> 00:13:55,290 specific purpose. 535 00:13:55,290 --> 00:13:56,992 And nothing. 536 00:13:56,992 --> 00:13:57,359 In mind to do, especially after 537 00:13:57,359 --> 00:13:58,293 dark. 538 00:13:58,293 --> 00:13:58,927 Early that. 539 00:13:58,927 --> 00:13:59,527 >> morning there. 540 00:13:59,527 --> 00:14:01,960 >> was a shoot. 541 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:01,429 Out in center city at roomier 542 00:14:01,429 --> 00:14:02,597 bearden. 543 00:14:02,597 --> 00:14:04,366 Park where you saw some of the 544 00:14:04,366 --> 00:14:05,800 images of in which a 15 year 545 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:06,000 old and an 18 year old were 546 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 shot. 547 00:14:09,104 --> 00:14:10,873 The shooters subsequently were 548 00:14:10,873 --> 00:14:11,390 216 year olds and a 15 year 549 00:14:11,390 --> 00:14:11,973 old. 550 00:14:11,973 --> 00:14:12,941 In that. 551 00:14:12,941 --> 00:14:14,941 >> incident we. 552 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:16,845 Saw a clear example of victims 553 00:14:16,845 --> 00:14:17,450 and victimization of our youth 554 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:19,450 . 555 00:14:19,247 --> 00:14:20,682 Additionally, several innocent 556 00:14:20,682 --> 00:14:21,783 bystanders and businesses were 557 00:14:21,783 --> 00:14:23,251 impacted because of the actions 558 00:14:23,251 --> 00:14:23,451 of the many teens who were out 559 00:14:23,451 --> 00:14:24,819 there. 560 00:14:24,819 --> 00:14:25,253 On JULY. 561 00:14:25,253 --> 00:14:26,956 >> 4th. 562 00:14:26,956 --> 00:14:27,122 We saw another large gathering 563 00:14:27,122 --> 00:14:27,923 . 564 00:14:27,923 --> 00:14:29,792 Of youth. 565 00:14:29,792 --> 00:14:30,292 Around amir bearden park. 566 00:14:30,292 --> 00:14:30,726 >> I was. 567 00:14:30,726 --> 00:14:31,960 >> out there. 568 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,327 I worked in fact until 3:00 in 569 00:14:32,327 --> 00:14:33,562 the morning. 570 00:14:33,562 --> 00:14:35,130 And saw the mass. 571 00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:37,633 Of youth that we had out there. 572 00:14:37,633 --> 00:14:39,701 We did not have any incidents 573 00:14:39,701 --> 00:14:40,969 that morning or that night in 574 00:14:40,969 --> 00:14:42,570 charlotte and the reason being 575 00:14:42,570 --> 00:14:44,173 I am confident is because we 576 00:14:44,173 --> 00:14:45,908 had over 200 officers working 577 00:14:45,908 --> 00:14:48,110 in a small geographic location. 578 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:48,310 We know that we cannot sustain 579 00:14:48,310 --> 00:14:49,545 that. 580 00:14:49,545 --> 00:14:49,879 We cannot have that kind of 581 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:51,879 manpower. 582 00:14:51,914 --> 00:14:53,148 Or personnel power. 583 00:14:53,148 --> 00:14:55,500 Every weekend or whenever 584 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:56,180 there's a pop up event 585 00:14:56,180 --> 00:14:58,418 pertaining to our youth. 586 00:14:59,321 --> 00:15:00,456 On JULY 11th in university city 587 00:15:00,456 --> 00:15:01,391 near the boardwalk. 588 00:15:01,391 --> 00:15:03,259 We had another mass. 589 00:15:03,259 --> 00:15:05,628 Gathering of 2 to 300 youth 590 00:15:05,628 --> 00:15:07,630 that resulted in fights, 591 00:15:07,630 --> 00:15:08,197 disorder and a firearm being 592 00:15:08,197 --> 00:15:09,632 seized, a firearm being 593 00:15:09,632 --> 00:15:11,801 confiscated from a 16 year old. 594 00:15:11,801 --> 00:15:13,402 We had 12 juveniles who were 595 00:15:13,402 --> 00:15:14,537 arrested in that incident and 596 00:15:14,537 --> 00:15:15,938 ten adults were cited. 597 00:15:15,938 --> 00:15:17,339 We had several. 598 00:15:17,339 --> 00:15:18,608 Officers who were assaulted. 599 00:15:18,608 --> 00:15:20,643 When they're trying to break up 600 00:15:20,643 --> 00:15:22,712 the fights and break up the 601 00:15:22,712 --> 00:15:23,680 incidents going on and we had 602 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,281 businesses that had to shut 603 00:15:25,281 --> 00:15:26,249 down early, could not carry on 604 00:15:26,249 --> 00:15:28,151 their business because of the 605 00:15:28,151 --> 00:15:29,452 teen takeovers and the number 606 00:15:29,452 --> 00:15:32,421 of teens who were in the area. 607 00:15:32,421 --> 00:15:33,689 I am very concerned that if we 608 00:15:33,689 --> 00:15:35,592 don't get a handle on these 609 00:15:35,592 --> 00:15:37,194 events and what is going on, 610 00:15:37,194 --> 00:15:37,527 the consequences MAY become 611 00:15:37,527 --> 00:15:39,527 fatal. 612 00:15:40,197 --> 00:15:41,164 This is why I'm proposing a 613 00:15:41,164 --> 00:15:42,432 modification to the existing 614 00:15:42,432 --> 00:15:43,533 youth protection ordinance. 615 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,402 And that. 616 00:15:45,402 --> 00:15:46,969 Modification is simply. 617 00:15:46,969 --> 00:15:48,969 That one. 618 00:15:49,639 --> 00:15:52,775 We increase the curfew age to 619 00:15:52,775 --> 00:15:54,845 all minors 17 and younger that 620 00:15:54,845 --> 00:15:56,747 we lower the curfew time to 9 621 00:15:56,747 --> 00:15:58,181 P.M. Every day of the week so 622 00:15:58,181 --> 00:15:59,483 that there's no confusion on 623 00:15:59,483 --> 00:16:00,350 what time or where you have to 624 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:02,719 be in that kind of thing. 625 00:16:02,719 --> 00:16:05,722 And also to that we keep the 626 00:16:05,722 --> 00:16:06,990 existing exceptions such as a 627 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:08,591 youth going to and from work or 628 00:16:08,591 --> 00:16:10,794 going to a sanctioned event by 629 00:16:10,794 --> 00:16:11,929 their school or religious place 630 00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:12,129 of worship or something like 631 00:16:12,129 --> 00:16:13,630 that. 632 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:13,297 And we're going to talk more a 633 00:16:13,297 --> 00:16:13,730 little. 634 00:16:13,730 --> 00:16:15,730 Bit about that. 635 00:16:16,834 --> 00:16:19,369 Mayor and council, please hear 636 00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:22,206 me clearly when I say that we 637 00:16:22,206 --> 00:16:23,340 are not proposing to 638 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:25,340 criminalize our youth. 639 00:16:25,709 --> 00:16:26,843 We don't want to criminalize 640 00:16:26,843 --> 00:16:29,243 them for being teenagers. 641 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:29,981 We will not be instituting a 642 00:16:29,981 --> 00:16:30,448 curfew. 643 00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:32,316 Police. 644 00:16:32,316 --> 00:16:33,918 I don't have the staffing for 645 00:16:33,918 --> 00:16:37,187 it so we will never do that. 646 00:16:37,187 --> 00:16:38,956 We are not creating a prison 647 00:16:38,956 --> 00:16:41,956 pipeline for youth of color. 648 00:16:42,226 --> 00:16:44,761 We're not punishing good kids 649 00:16:44,761 --> 00:16:47,131 for doing the right things but 650 00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:48,990 instead we are proposing a tool 651 00:16:48,990 --> 00:16:50,167 that gives law enforcement the 652 00:16:50,167 --> 00:16:51,602 ability to intervene and keep 653 00:16:51,602 --> 00:16:53,504 our young people from being 654 00:16:53,504 --> 00:16:55,239 harmed or harming others. 655 00:16:55,239 --> 00:16:56,674 Today we have a brief 656 00:16:56,674 --> 00:16:58,409 presentation with data to 657 00:16:58,409 --> 00:17:00,100 support our assertion that 658 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:01,111 youth are being victimized when 659 00:17:01,111 --> 00:17:01,478 they are permitted to stay out 660 00:17:01,478 --> 00:17:03,480 late. 661 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,480 And unsupervised. 662 00:17:05,490 --> 00:17:06,818 I would close by saying this to 663 00:17:06,818 --> 00:17:08,553 you as we look around this 664 00:17:08,553 --> 00:17:09,687 room, those who are seated here 665 00:17:09,687 --> 00:17:11,289 there are a number of law 666 00:17:11,289 --> 00:17:13,190 enforcement agency partners, 667 00:17:13,190 --> 00:17:14,625 community leaders, safety youth 668 00:17:14,625 --> 00:17:15,926 advocates, educators and 669 00:17:15,926 --> 00:17:16,327 business leaders who. 670 00:17:16,327 --> 00:17:17,862 >> have. 671 00:17:17,862 --> 00:17:20,231 Either been negatively impacted 672 00:17:20,231 --> 00:17:21,666 by these teen takeovers or are 673 00:17:21,666 --> 00:17:22,801 extremely concerned about our 674 00:17:22,801 --> 00:17:24,669 youth and their safety. 675 00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:26,571 I believe that they stand with 676 00:17:26,571 --> 00:17:28,640 cmpd and they stand with me in 677 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,441 saying that we have to revise 678 00:17:30,441 --> 00:17:32,410 our youth protection ordinance. 679 00:17:32,410 --> 00:17:34,110 I am proud of the work that my 680 00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:35,446 team is doing to try to get 681 00:17:35,446 --> 00:17:37,480 ahead of these takeovers, to 682 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,885 try to be in those places. 683 00:17:39,885 --> 00:17:42,285 However, we cannot mitigate 684 00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:42,687 these just by using personnel 685 00:17:42,687 --> 00:17:44,687 resources. 686 00:17:44,756 --> 00:17:47,158 It's very expensive, is very 687 00:17:47,158 --> 00:17:48,593 taxing on our resources and 688 00:17:48,593 --> 00:17:50,280 while we can't put a price on 689 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,230 the tax, the resources that 690 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:55,660 we're using we cannot put a 691 00:17:55,660 --> 00:17:57,269 price on a life that is lost. 692 00:17:57,269 --> 00:17:57,936 As a result of the events that 693 00:17:57,936 --> 00:17:58,904 happened because of. 694 00:17:58,904 --> 00:18:00,904 >> these teen takeovers. 695 00:18:01,673 --> 00:18:03,909 So we're asking you to consider 696 00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:04,109 that as you think about this 697 00:18:04,109 --> 00:18:05,100 youth. 698 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:06,278 Protection ordinance. 699 00:18:06,278 --> 00:18:07,712 And at this time I'm going to 700 00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:08,980 turn it over to MISS Jessica 701 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:10,749 battle for a few legal points 702 00:18:10,749 --> 00:18:12,317 and then to deputy chief briley 703 00:18:12,317 --> 00:18:13,619 and also doctor stewart from 704 00:18:13,619 --> 00:18:15,488 our youth office of. 705 00:18:15,488 --> 00:18:17,488 Youth opportunities. 706 00:18:24,696 --> 00:18:25,630 Good evening mayor, city 707 00:18:25,630 --> 00:18:26,465 council. 708 00:18:26,465 --> 00:18:28,800 Members and MISTER Manager. 709 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,350 Jessica battle with the. 710 00:18:30,350 --> 00:18:31,504 >> city attorney's office. 711 00:18:31,504 --> 00:18:32,538 Our youth protection. 712 00:18:32,538 --> 00:18:33,973 Ordinance was. 713 00:18:33,973 --> 00:18:35,973 Brought into. 714 00:18:35,975 --> 00:18:37,710 First implemented in 1995. 715 00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:38,511 >> it started off as a pilot 716 00:18:38,511 --> 00:18:38,977 program but. 717 00:18:38,977 --> 00:18:40,546 Given the. 718 00:18:40,546 --> 00:18:41,130 >> results of the curfew. 719 00:18:41,130 --> 00:18:42,414 And other. 720 00:18:42,414 --> 00:18:42,715 Section of the youth 721 00:18:42,715 --> 00:18:44,160 protection. 722 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,284 Ordinance, it remained. 723 00:18:45,284 --> 00:18:45,617 >> a permanent part of our 724 00:18:45,617 --> 00:18:46,850 charlotte. 725 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:47,954 City code. 726 00:18:47,954 --> 00:18:48,454 And to give. 727 00:18:48,454 --> 00:18:48,821 >> you a. 728 00:18:48,821 --> 00:18:49,550 >> little. 729 00:18:49,550 --> 00:18:49,689 Bit of. 730 00:18:49,689 --> 00:18:50,560 >> procedural history in. 731 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:50,990 How we. 732 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:52,990 >> got here today. 733 00:18:53,826 --> 00:18:54,927 On JUNE 30th of this year, 734 00:18:54,927 --> 00:18:55,595 former mayor louse. 735 00:18:55,595 --> 00:18:56,620 >> signed a. 736 00:18:56,620 --> 00:18:56,495 Policy referral. 737 00:18:56,495 --> 00:18:57,496 For the. 738 00:18:57,496 --> 00:18:58,531 >> safety committee. 739 00:18:58,531 --> 00:18:59,932 To take a look. 740 00:18:59,932 --> 00:19:00,933 At our current youth. 741 00:19:00,933 --> 00:19:01,367 Protection ordinance. 742 00:19:01,367 --> 00:19:01,734 >> to. 743 00:19:01,734 --> 00:19:02,534 Do some. 744 00:19:02,534 --> 00:19:03,936 Benchmarking of. 745 00:19:03,936 --> 00:19:04,536 Other north carolina and. 746 00:19:04,536 --> 00:19:05,472 Us cities. 747 00:19:05,472 --> 00:19:06,106 To determine what. 748 00:19:06,106 --> 00:19:06,906 ,if. 749 00:19:06,906 --> 00:19:08,575 >> any public. 750 00:19:08,575 --> 00:19:09,800 Safety considerations. 751 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,744 >> that. 752 00:19:10,744 --> 00:19:11,711 This council could take into 753 00:19:11,711 --> 00:19:12,450 consideration when we are 754 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:13,446 looking to. 755 00:19:13,446 --> 00:19:14,447 Mitigate the public safety. 756 00:19:14,447 --> 00:19:14,947 Issues associated. 757 00:19:14,947 --> 00:19:16,516 >> with. 758 00:19:16,516 --> 00:19:17,450 Juvenile curfew issues. 759 00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:17,984 On JULY. 760 00:19:17,984 --> 00:19:18,985 >> 14th. 761 00:19:18,985 --> 00:19:20,119 The committee. 762 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:20,486 >> heard recommendations from 763 00:19:20,486 --> 00:19:21,554 the. 764 00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:22,823 Cmpd and. 765 00:19:22,823 --> 00:19:23,456 Also heard from the city 766 00:19:23,456 --> 00:19:25,250 attorney's office. 767 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:26,760 On their legal authority. 768 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,527 As it relates to curfew. 769 00:19:27,527 --> 00:19:29,950 And in that. 770 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:29,429 Special meeting the committee 771 00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:29,929 members. 772 00:19:29,929 --> 00:19:30,997 >> voted. 773 00:19:30,997 --> 00:19:32,980 Unanimously to. 774 00:19:32,980 --> 00:19:34,670 Support kpd. 775 00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:34,267 Recommendations to send before 776 00:19:34,267 --> 00:19:36,267 this. 777 00:19:36,369 --> 00:19:36,503 Full council for consideration 778 00:19:36,503 --> 00:19:38,370 . 779 00:19:38,370 --> 00:19:39,439 Emphasizing what. 780 00:19:39,439 --> 00:19:40,390 Chief patterson just stated. 781 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:41,241 >> that being. 782 00:19:41,241 --> 00:19:42,420 Updating the curfew to include 783 00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:42,676 all minors. 784 00:19:42,676 --> 00:19:44,770 And making it. 785 00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:45,479 9:00 pm on each. 786 00:19:45,479 --> 00:19:47,879 Day of the week. 787 00:19:50,484 --> 00:19:51,451 Our current youth protection. 788 00:19:51,451 --> 00:19:52,520 Ordinance applies. 789 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,986 To two. 790 00:19:52,986 --> 00:19:53,453 Different subsets. 791 00:19:53,453 --> 00:19:54,870 >> of. 792 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:56,870 Minors for. 793 00:19:56,255 --> 00:19:58,250 Children who are 12 years old 794 00:19:58,250 --> 00:19:59,493 and under the curfew as. 795 00:19:59,493 --> 00:19:59,994 >> at 10 P.M. Until 6. 796 00:19:59,994 --> 00:20:00,594 >> A.M.. 797 00:20:00,594 --> 00:20:01,395 On the. 798 00:20:01,395 --> 00:20:02,162 >> following day. 799 00:20:02,162 --> 00:20:04,562 Any day of the. 800 00:20:05,299 --> 00:20:05,933 Week for children ages 13, 14 801 00:20:05,933 --> 00:20:07,933 and 15. 802 00:20:08,902 --> 00:20:09,336 That curfew is from 11. 803 00:20:09,336 --> 00:20:09,503 >> P.M.. 804 00:20:09,503 --> 00:20:09,636 To. 805 00:20:09,636 --> 00:20:09,870 6. 806 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:10,700 A.M.. 807 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:10,637 The. 808 00:20:10,637 --> 00:20:12,205 Following day on. 809 00:20:12,205 --> 00:20:13,600 Any given day of the week we do 810 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,600 not have any. 811 00:20:15,810 --> 00:20:17,411 Other tiers related to weekends 812 00:20:17,411 --> 00:20:18,579 or geographic locations. 813 00:20:18,579 --> 00:20:21,549 >> in the city at this time. 814 00:20:21,549 --> 00:20:22,483 I'm sorry there's. 815 00:20:22,483 --> 00:20:22,983 >> a slight delay. 816 00:20:22,983 --> 00:20:24,983 >> in. 817 00:20:24,985 --> 00:20:25,452 The clicker as it relates to. 818 00:20:25,452 --> 00:20:27,452 Offenses that. 819 00:20:27,488 --> 00:20:29,356 >> arise out of our curfew. 820 00:20:29,356 --> 00:20:30,491 A juvenile can be charged with 821 00:20:30,491 --> 00:20:30,824 violating the curfew if. 822 00:20:30,824 --> 00:20:31,225 >> they. 823 00:20:31,225 --> 00:20:31,959 Are present. 824 00:20:31,959 --> 00:20:32,459 And not. 825 00:20:32,459 --> 00:20:34,162 At home. 826 00:20:34,162 --> 00:20:35,463 Remaining in a public place 827 00:20:35,463 --> 00:20:37,632 after the curfew hours. 828 00:20:37,632 --> 00:20:39,400 A parent or guardian can be 829 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,100 charged with a curfew offense. 830 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:40,935 >> if they. 831 00:20:40,935 --> 00:20:42,935 Knowingly permit. 832 00:20:43,771 --> 00:20:45,506 Their juvenile child for being 833 00:20:45,506 --> 00:20:48,800 outside of the curfew hours. 834 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,430 Also owners, operators or any. 835 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:49,576 Employees of. 836 00:20:49,576 --> 00:20:50,979 >> an. 837 00:20:50,979 --> 00:20:51,479 Establishment can be charged 838 00:20:51,479 --> 00:20:51,813 with an offense. 839 00:20:51,813 --> 00:20:53,470 If they. 840 00:20:53,470 --> 00:20:54,282 >> knowingly allow. 841 00:20:54,282 --> 00:20:55,583 Juveniles to remain on their 842 00:20:55,583 --> 00:20:57,452 property after curfew hours. 843 00:20:57,452 --> 00:20:58,860 There are also offenses. 844 00:20:58,860 --> 00:21:00,860 For persons. 845 00:21:00,421 --> 00:21:01,489 16 years old and older who aid. 846 00:21:01,489 --> 00:21:03,570 Or abet. 847 00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:04,625 Or otherwise assist. 848 00:21:04,625 --> 00:21:04,992 Juveniles in violating the 849 00:21:04,992 --> 00:21:06,992 curfew. 850 00:21:06,994 --> 00:21:08,730 And also it is a. 851 00:21:08,730 --> 00:21:09,998 violation for a parent or 852 00:21:09,998 --> 00:21:10,432 guardian to refuse to. 853 00:21:10,432 --> 00:21:10,732 >> take. 854 00:21:10,732 --> 00:21:12,434 Custody of. 855 00:21:12,434 --> 00:21:14,335 >> their child after they are 856 00:21:14,335 --> 00:21:16,237 notified that their child has 857 00:21:16,237 --> 00:21:18,139 violated curfew and police are 858 00:21:18,139 --> 00:21:19,440 seeking the parent to come and 859 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,440 retrieve their juvenile. 860 00:21:23,945 --> 00:21:24,746 Right. 861 00:21:24,746 --> 00:21:25,514 >> there are some. 862 00:21:25,514 --> 00:21:26,448 Exceptions that. 863 00:21:26,448 --> 00:21:26,682 >> chief patterson went 864 00:21:26,682 --> 00:21:28,682 through. 865 00:21:28,684 --> 00:21:30,285 If you are accompanied by your 866 00:21:30,285 --> 00:21:30,618 parent or guardian or any 867 00:21:30,618 --> 00:21:32,200 authorized. 868 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Adult aged. 869 00:21:34,222 --> 00:21:36,257 21 years or older authorized 870 00:21:36,257 --> 00:21:37,692 adult meaning someone who has 871 00:21:37,692 --> 00:21:40,692 permission from the parent or 872 00:21:40,695 --> 00:21:41,830 guardian of the juvenile to be 873 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:42,965 responsible for that child 874 00:21:42,965 --> 00:21:44,667 after curfew hours. 875 00:21:44,667 --> 00:21:46,268 If the juvenile is running a 876 00:21:46,268 --> 00:21:47,703 parent or excuse me running an 877 00:21:47,703 --> 00:21:49,471 errand for their parent and 878 00:21:49,471 --> 00:21:51,373 they are on a direct route to 879 00:21:51,373 --> 00:21:51,707 that errand or back to their 880 00:21:51,707 --> 00:21:53,707 residence. 881 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:54,209 Likewise if they are doing 882 00:21:54,209 --> 00:21:55,100 employment. 883 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:57,100 Activities and. 884 00:21:57,212 --> 00:21:58,480 Again on a direct route to or 885 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,980 from work, they can. 886 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:00,217 >> be. 887 00:22:00,217 --> 00:22:00,550 Out outside of their restricted 888 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:02,550 hours. 889 00:22:02,752 --> 00:22:03,919 Or if they are responding to a 890 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:04,954 true emergency. 891 00:22:04,954 --> 00:22:06,550 Lastly. 892 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:07,220 >> if a. 893 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:09,220 Juvenile is attending. 894 00:22:09,325 --> 00:22:09,992 Traveling to or directly from 895 00:22:09,992 --> 00:22:10,959 an official. 896 00:22:10,959 --> 00:22:12,270 School religious. 897 00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:12,494 >> or recreation. 898 00:22:12,494 --> 00:22:12,961 Event that. 899 00:22:12,961 --> 00:22:14,830 >> is. 900 00:22:14,830 --> 00:22:15,300 With emphasis he or supervised 901 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:15,964 by. 902 00:22:15,964 --> 00:22:17,432 Adults or. 903 00:22:17,432 --> 00:22:18,100 Sponsored by a public or. 904 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:18,401 >> private. 905 00:22:18,401 --> 00:22:18,534 School. 906 00:22:18,534 --> 00:22:18,801 . 907 00:22:18,801 --> 00:22:20,203 Religious. 908 00:22:20,203 --> 00:22:22,380 Institution, government entity 909 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:22,438 or civic organization. 910 00:22:22,438 --> 00:22:23,606 They can. 911 00:22:23,606 --> 00:22:25,474 >> be outside out of their. 912 00:22:25,474 --> 00:22:25,941 Restricted restricted hours. 913 00:22:25,941 --> 00:22:27,941 Excuse me. 914 00:22:28,277 --> 00:22:29,879 >> and if a person were to 915 00:22:29,879 --> 00:22:31,313 encounter law enforcement they 916 00:22:31,313 --> 00:22:33,682 would certainly try to verify 917 00:22:33,682 --> 00:22:35,151 whether or not the juvenile is 918 00:22:35,151 --> 00:22:36,419 falling under one of these 919 00:22:36,419 --> 00:22:37,554 lawful exceptions to being out 920 00:22:37,554 --> 00:22:39,954 in the restricted hours. 921 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Forgive me. 922 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:45,561 >> for. 923 00:22:45,561 --> 00:22:46,596 The technology. 924 00:22:46,596 --> 00:22:46,996 All right. 925 00:22:46,996 --> 00:22:48,640 When we. 926 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,198 Look at our benchmarking. 927 00:22:49,198 --> 00:22:50,633 We look not only at north 928 00:22:50,633 --> 00:22:52,368 carolina cities but we looked 929 00:22:52,368 --> 00:22:53,970 at several sister cities across 930 00:22:53,970 --> 00:22:54,604 the united states. 931 00:22:54,604 --> 00:22:55,380 When we. 932 00:22:55,380 --> 00:22:55,705 Look at. 933 00:22:55,705 --> 00:22:57,705 >> winston-salem. 934 00:22:57,740 --> 00:22:59,809 >> their curfew applies to all 935 00:22:59,809 --> 00:23:02,378 minors persons 17 years old and 936 00:23:02,378 --> 00:23:02,778 younger from 10 P.M. To 6 P.M. 937 00:23:02,778 --> 00:23:03,546 On any day. 938 00:23:03,546 --> 00:23:04,814 Of the week. 939 00:23:04,814 --> 00:23:06,549 And currently the city of 940 00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:07,483 raleigh is also considering. 941 00:23:07,483 --> 00:23:08,584 Changing their. 942 00:23:08,584 --> 00:23:10,354 Juvenile curfew. 943 00:23:10,354 --> 00:23:11,888 They are also considering 944 00:23:11,888 --> 00:23:12,189 having it apply to all minors 945 00:23:12,189 --> 00:23:13,900 and they. 946 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:15,900 >> are looking at. 947 00:23:15,292 --> 00:23:16,930 10 P.M. Or 11 P.M. For their 948 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:18,930 standard restricted hours. 949 00:23:18,461 --> 00:23:19,462 Some other cities of which who 950 00:23:19,462 --> 00:23:20,664 were featured in the recording. 951 00:23:20,664 --> 00:23:21,431 >> that was played at the. 952 00:23:21,431 --> 00:23:22,532 At the beginning of. 953 00:23:22,532 --> 00:23:23,666 >> this presentation are myrtle 954 00:23:23,666 --> 00:23:25,666 beach, south carolina. 955 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,236 That has a curfew for 17 and 956 00:23:26,236 --> 00:23:28,236 younger. 957 00:23:28,238 --> 00:23:28,572 This is a citywide curfew of 958 00:23:28,572 --> 00:23:30,474 midnight. 959 00:23:30,474 --> 00:23:32,342 However they have a geographic 960 00:23:32,342 --> 00:23:34,411 or territorial curfew in their 961 00:23:34,411 --> 00:23:34,611 downtown area which starts at 9 962 00:23:34,611 --> 00:23:36,480 P.M.. 963 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,881 It's important to note. 964 00:23:37,881 --> 00:23:38,810 >> that last year myrtle beach 965 00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:39,950 . 966 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:40,150 Instituted an emergency curfew 967 00:23:40,150 --> 00:23:42,180 . 968 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:42,352 There was a little earlier they 969 00:23:42,352 --> 00:23:43,753 had that. 970 00:23:43,753 --> 00:23:45,422 Because of incident that had 971 00:23:45,422 --> 00:23:45,556 occurred in their jurisdiction 972 00:23:45,556 --> 00:23:47,257 . 973 00:23:47,257 --> 00:23:48,859 Once that temporary curfew was 974 00:23:48,859 --> 00:23:51,859 lifted back to the former 11 975 00:23:51,862 --> 00:23:53,296 P.M., they did see a spike in 976 00:23:53,296 --> 00:23:55,320 crime that they directly 977 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,633 correlated to the changes in 978 00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:58,969 their curfew restricted hours. 979 00:23:58,969 --> 00:24:01,969 In atlanta, georgia, the curfew 980 00:24:01,972 --> 00:24:03,741 is 17 and younger during school 981 00:24:03,741 --> 00:24:05,309 nights 11 P.M. To six and then 982 00:24:05,309 --> 00:24:06,444 friday and saturday they have a 983 00:24:06,444 --> 00:24:07,378 tiered curfew at midnight. 984 00:24:07,378 --> 00:24:08,946 Nashville. 985 00:24:08,946 --> 00:24:10,681 >> tennessee also applies to 986 00:24:10,681 --> 00:24:11,815 all minors and they have 987 00:24:11,815 --> 00:24:13,250 different hearing related to 988 00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:13,684 different times of day of the. 989 00:24:13,684 --> 00:24:14,118 Week and. 990 00:24:14,118 --> 00:24:16,190 >> they. 991 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:17,421 Also have a summer exception 992 00:24:17,421 --> 00:24:18,555 and we give you all of this 993 00:24:18,555 --> 00:24:19,823 benchmarking just so that the 994 00:24:19,823 --> 00:24:21,259 council can be aware of what 995 00:24:21,259 --> 00:24:22,860 other cities are doing and know 996 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:23,600 about the different options and 997 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:23,461 level. 998 00:24:23,461 --> 00:24:24,395 >> of. 999 00:24:24,395 --> 00:24:26,764 Changes that are being sought 1000 00:24:26,764 --> 00:24:28,366 as they consider cmpd 1001 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:29,934 recommendation of the 9:00 p m 1002 00:24:29,934 --> 00:24:32,300 curfew for each day of the week 1003 00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:33,571 for all minors 17 and below. 1004 00:24:33,571 --> 00:24:34,839 And now I will turn it over to 1005 00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:36,440 deputy chief riley who will 1006 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760 talk about teen takeovers from 1007 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:38,243 the law enforcement perspective 1008 00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:39,100 . 1009 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:39,878 Thank you. 1010 00:24:39,878 --> 00:24:40,645 >> good for me? 1011 00:24:40,645 --> 00:24:41,746 Yes, absolutely. 1012 00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:43,746 Thank you. 1013 00:24:47,518 --> 00:24:49,518 Okay. 1014 00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:52,188 Okay. 1015 00:24:52,523 --> 00:24:53,240 Uh good evening mayor council 1016 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,724 and our guests. 1017 00:24:53,724 --> 00:24:54,525 >> I'm deputy. 1018 00:24:54,525 --> 00:24:56,525 Chief jackie braly. 1019 00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:58,463 Um, I'm over patrol operations 1020 00:24:58,463 --> 00:24:58,663 for the city of charlotte and 1021 00:24:58,663 --> 00:25:00,663 cmpd. 1022 00:25:01,132 --> 00:25:03,335 So part of our teen. 1023 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:03,668 Takeovers these are planned 1024 00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:05,690 gatherings. 1025 00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:07,469 With no true purpose. 1026 00:25:08,206 --> 00:25:09,474 Some of our youth genuinely use 1027 00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,750 these as opportunities to get 1028 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:12,511 out of the house, spend time 1029 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:13,612 with their friends, hang out. 1030 00:25:13,612 --> 00:25:15,180 But unfortunately. 1031 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,148 Others use this as an 1032 00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:16,615 opportunity to meet up. 1033 00:25:16,615 --> 00:25:18,615 ,plan. 1034 00:25:19,251 --> 00:25:19,617 >> fights, settle social media 1035 00:25:19,617 --> 00:25:21,486 disputes. 1036 00:25:21,486 --> 00:25:22,587 Or oftentimes end in violence. 1037 00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:24,890 . 1038 00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:24,723 With approximately. 1039 00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:26,591 40 planned. 1040 00:25:26,591 --> 00:25:27,692 Takeovers thus far, cmpd has. 1041 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:28,626 Demonstrated its ability. 1042 00:25:28,626 --> 00:25:29,727 To respond. 1043 00:25:29,727 --> 00:25:31,130 Effectively and. 1044 00:25:31,130 --> 00:25:32,364 Efficiently and. 1045 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:32,631 Successfully address these 1046 00:25:32,631 --> 00:25:33,332 incidents. 1047 00:25:33,332 --> 00:25:35,200 >> as they occur. 1048 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,236 As the chief stated. 1049 00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:38,370 Unfortunately these are 1050 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:38,637 manpower and staffing 1051 00:25:38,637 --> 00:25:40,138 intensive. 1052 00:25:40,138 --> 00:25:43,738 And not able to be sustained. 1053 00:25:45,443 --> 00:25:46,545 So a little bit of the numbers 1054 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:47,647 for our calendar year. 1055 00:25:47,647 --> 00:25:49,381 We've had. 1056 00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:50,349 431 of our youth that were 1057 00:25:50,349 --> 00:25:52,749 victims of violent crime. 1058 00:25:54,860 --> 00:25:56,860 127 of these victims. 1059 00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:57,389 Were 16 and 17 year olds who 1060 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:58,524 are not part of the current 1061 00:25:58,524 --> 00:26:00,920 youth protection ordinance. 1062 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,920 . 1063 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:03,162 393 of our youth were black or 1064 00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:04,196 hispanic. 1065 00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:05,131 With gun. 1066 00:26:05,131 --> 00:26:07,131 >> related assaults. 1067 00:26:07,166 --> 00:26:08,568 Driving many of these cases. 1068 00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:09,101 The numbers. 1069 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:10,236 >> on the. 1070 00:26:10,236 --> 00:26:11,604 Slide speak for themselves. 1071 00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:12,538 With the. 1072 00:26:12,538 --> 00:26:13,939 >> percentages. 1073 00:26:13,939 --> 00:26:15,808 >> but there's much more. 1074 00:26:15,808 --> 00:26:17,409 Troubling as myself was a 1075 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:18,544 parent who's raised two 1076 00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:18,878 teenagers and currently raising 1077 00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:20,790 a third. 1078 00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:21,146 Thus far. 1079 00:26:21,146 --> 00:26:21,413 >> this calendar year we've 1080 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:22,114 lost six. 1081 00:26:22,114 --> 00:26:24,114 Young people. 1082 00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:26,150 To gun violence. 1083 00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:29,355 These were all 17 years and 1084 00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:31,557 younger with our youngest 1085 00:26:31,557 --> 00:26:33,957 juvenile victim of homicide. 1086 00:26:34,590 --> 00:26:34,527 1413 young people. 1087 00:26:34,527 --> 00:26:36,395 >> in. 1088 00:26:36,395 --> 00:26:37,363 Our community were aged 17 and 1089 00:26:37,363 --> 00:26:38,331 under were charged with 1090 00:26:38,331 --> 00:26:40,700 homicide calendar year to. 1091 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:42,235 Date of these incidents. 1092 00:26:42,235 --> 00:26:44,170 Every single one of them 1093 00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:44,371 occurred after 9 A.M. Between 6 1094 00:26:44,371 --> 00:26:46,371 A.M.. 1095 00:26:47,307 --> 00:26:50,900 So no matter what side of these 1096 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:50,677 tragedies of families on these 1097 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:53,770 lives are changed forever. 1098 00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:57,830 As part of our research into 1099 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:59,830 this. 1100 00:26:59,886 --> 00:27:01,821 We looked at some of our um, 1101 00:27:01,821 --> 00:27:02,656 alternatives snapped to your 1102 00:27:02,656 --> 00:27:05,560 age group and geographic. 1103 00:27:05,425 --> 00:27:06,726 These various alternatives to 1104 00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:08,261 these various alternatives to 1105 00:27:08,261 --> 00:27:09,529 our current recommendation do 1106 00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:11,970 have significant challenges. 1107 00:27:11,970 --> 00:27:12,832 Again. 1108 00:27:12,832 --> 00:27:15,232 >> staffing is not sustainable 1109 00:27:16,303 --> 00:27:18,372 for snap tiered or geographic 1110 00:27:18,372 --> 00:27:19,807 officers are still responsible 1111 00:27:19,807 --> 00:27:20,607 to respond to calls for service 1112 00:27:20,607 --> 00:27:21,708 in a timely manner. 1113 00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:22,643 Is that is. 1114 00:27:22,643 --> 00:27:24,440 That is what is. 1115 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:24,244 Expected from our community we 1116 00:27:24,244 --> 00:27:26,244 serve. 1117 00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:27,848 Therefore we are unable to pull 1118 00:27:27,848 --> 00:27:28,682 resources from all over the 1119 00:27:28,682 --> 00:27:29,820 city to go. 1120 00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:30,150 From one. 1121 00:27:30,150 --> 00:27:32,150 >> location to another. 1122 00:27:32,953 --> 00:27:33,988 In theory it sounds okay. 1123 00:27:33,988 --> 00:27:34,621 But significant. 1124 00:27:34,621 --> 00:27:35,389 >> but we have. 1125 00:27:35,389 --> 00:27:37,389 Significant practical 1126 00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:40,458 challenges in its application. 1127 00:27:42,930 --> 00:27:44,365 Currently cmpd leads many 1128 00:27:44,365 --> 00:27:44,998 efforts on many fronts to 1129 00:27:44,998 --> 00:27:46,567 engage with our youth. 1130 00:27:46,567 --> 00:27:46,900 Our pal. 1131 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:47,367 Program that. 1132 00:27:47,367 --> 00:27:48,602 >> has been. 1133 00:27:48,602 --> 00:27:51,200 Around for many years. 1134 00:27:51,272 --> 00:27:52,407 Year to date serves on average 1135 00:27:52,407 --> 00:27:52,740 500 young people in our 1136 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:54,141 community. 1137 00:27:54,141 --> 00:27:56,477 This is a program that's. 1138 00:27:56,477 --> 00:27:56,777 >> led by cmpd officers and 1139 00:27:56,777 --> 00:27:58,777 volunteers. 1140 00:27:59,130 --> 00:27:59,413 Our reach program has. 1141 00:27:59,413 --> 00:28:01,413 Continued to. 1142 00:28:01,448 --> 00:28:02,416 >> work with 60 youth, 30 men 1143 00:28:02,416 --> 00:28:03,500 and 30 young ladies this 1144 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,500 calendar year. 1145 00:28:05,719 --> 00:28:06,854 With multiple city and county 1146 00:28:06,854 --> 00:28:09,223 partners and under the 1147 00:28:09,223 --> 00:28:10,491 leadership of our officers in 1148 00:28:10,491 --> 00:28:11,159 the mecklenburg county 1149 00:28:11,159 --> 00:28:12,860 sheriff's office. 1150 00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:15,260 Community engagement unit, we 1151 00:28:15,262 --> 00:28:17,262 had 1800 youth successfully 1152 00:28:17,298 --> 00:28:19,698 participate in 14 teen summer 1153 00:28:19,834 --> 00:28:22,690 jam events to include two pool 1154 00:28:22,690 --> 00:28:25,690 parties at splash planet with 1155 00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:26,808 zero incidents as well as 64 1156 00:28:26,808 --> 00:28:27,141 community led national night 1157 00:28:27,141 --> 00:28:29,440 out events. 1158 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,578 . 1159 00:28:30,578 --> 00:28:30,945 With that I'll. 1160 00:28:30,945 --> 00:28:31,346 >> hand. 1161 00:28:31,346 --> 00:28:31,579 It over to doctor. 1162 00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:33,579 Stewart. 1163 00:28:41,923 --> 00:28:43,580 >> good evening mayor 1164 00:28:43,580 --> 00:28:44,593 harrington, manager. 1165 00:28:44,593 --> 00:28:46,795 Jones and members of council. 1166 00:28:46,795 --> 00:28:47,362 I'm ricky stuart, director of 1167 00:28:47,362 --> 00:28:48,396 housing and neighborhood. 1168 00:28:48,396 --> 00:28:49,731 Services and the. 1169 00:28:49,731 --> 00:28:50,198 Office of youth opportunity. 1170 00:28:50,198 --> 00:28:51,320 And I. 1171 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,133 >> wanted to just take a. 1172 00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:53,101 Moment to share with you some 1173 00:28:53,101 --> 00:28:53,901 of the things. 1174 00:28:53,901 --> 00:28:54,269 >> that your staff. 1175 00:28:54,269 --> 00:28:54,803 With the. 1176 00:28:54,803 --> 00:28:55,670 >> office of. 1177 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:56,771 >> our office. 1178 00:28:56,771 --> 00:28:58,172 Of youth opportunities. 1179 00:28:58,172 --> 00:28:59,374 Has done and. 1180 00:28:59,374 --> 00:29:00,142 >> what we plan to do next. 1181 00:29:00,142 --> 00:29:01,710 So we. 1182 00:29:01,710 --> 00:29:02,644 >> have expanded our career. 1183 00:29:02,644 --> 00:29:04,213 Experiences through. 1184 00:29:04,213 --> 00:29:05,614 Strategic outreach. 1185 00:29:05,614 --> 00:29:07,282 Meaning we have created more. 1186 00:29:07,282 --> 00:29:08,490 Flexible opportunities. 1187 00:29:08,490 --> 00:29:10,490 For our youth. 1188 00:29:11,353 --> 00:29:13,555 To date we have provided 683 1189 00:29:13,555 --> 00:29:13,755 career experiences and we're on 1190 00:29:13,755 --> 00:29:14,220 . 1191 00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:15,900 Track for. 1192 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,324 >> our goal of 1000. 1193 00:29:16,324 --> 00:29:18,194 >> by the end of the year. 1194 00:29:18,194 --> 00:29:19,161 Um understanding the need for. 1195 00:29:19,161 --> 00:29:19,762 Third spaces. 1196 00:29:19,762 --> 00:29:20,862 We realized. 1197 00:29:20,862 --> 00:29:21,797 This a little bit last. 1198 00:29:21,797 --> 00:29:22,264 Year so we. 1199 00:29:22,264 --> 00:29:22,731 Were able. 1200 00:29:22,731 --> 00:29:23,599 To partner with. 1201 00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:24,233 >> the ymca. 1202 00:29:24,233 --> 00:29:25,134 >> I believe. 1203 00:29:25,134 --> 00:29:27,903 >> our partner was with us. 1204 00:29:27,903 --> 00:29:29,638 >> this evening um, to provide 1205 00:29:29,638 --> 00:29:30,572 200 ymca passes. 1206 00:29:30,572 --> 00:29:32,340 It was initially for three 1207 00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:32,674 months and we recognized. 1208 00:29:32,674 --> 00:29:32,941 >> the. 1209 00:29:32,941 --> 00:29:33,408 Need for. 1210 00:29:33,408 --> 00:29:34,911 >> the youth. 1211 00:29:34,911 --> 00:29:35,111 >> to have activities to do so 1212 00:29:35,111 --> 00:29:35,811 we. 1213 00:29:35,811 --> 00:29:37,146 Were able to extend. 1214 00:29:37,146 --> 00:29:38,714 >> it through DECEMBER. 1215 00:29:38,714 --> 00:29:40,516 Uh, this summer we. 1216 00:29:40,516 --> 00:29:40,750 >> were able to provide 250 1217 00:29:40,750 --> 00:29:41,383 county. 1218 00:29:41,383 --> 00:29:42,952 >> and park. 1219 00:29:42,952 --> 00:29:44,853 Rec and team passes, which is 1220 00:29:44,853 --> 00:29:46,922 great because they have an 1221 00:29:46,922 --> 00:29:47,256 opportunity to visit and 1222 00:29:47,256 --> 00:29:48,824 participate. 1223 00:29:48,824 --> 00:29:49,791 In any activity at any rec 1224 00:29:49,791 --> 00:29:51,994 center across the county. 1225 00:29:51,994 --> 00:29:52,662 And then we continue to 1226 00:29:52,662 --> 00:29:54,662 strengthen through. 1227 00:29:55,665 --> 00:29:57,166 Our youth safety initiative. 1228 00:29:57,166 --> 00:29:58,568 Our violence. 1229 00:29:58,568 --> 00:29:59,202 Prevention campaigns with. 1230 00:29:59,202 --> 00:30:00,137 >> our youth. 1231 00:30:00,137 --> 00:30:01,370 Diversion program. 1232 00:30:01,370 --> 00:30:03,406 We work closely with. 1233 00:30:03,406 --> 00:30:04,730 Cmpd and our school resource 1234 00:30:04,730 --> 00:30:04,707 officers. 1235 00:30:04,707 --> 00:30:05,941 And our. 1236 00:30:05,941 --> 00:30:06,609 Alternative to violence 1237 00:30:06,609 --> 00:30:07,760 initiative which. 1238 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:07,743 >> is. 1239 00:30:07,743 --> 00:30:09,743 In three different. 1240 00:30:09,746 --> 00:30:11,314 Uh, corridors across the city. 1241 00:30:11,314 --> 00:30:13,160 So as it relates to. 1242 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,617 What's next, our team is ready 1243 00:30:14,617 --> 00:30:15,151 to pivot with. 1244 00:30:15,151 --> 00:30:16,850 >> the purpose. 1245 00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:17,553 So we are looking. 1246 00:30:17,553 --> 00:30:17,687 >> at developing a partnership 1247 00:30:17,687 --> 00:30:19,687 . 1248 00:30:19,689 --> 00:30:20,156 Grant to support organizations. 1249 00:30:20,156 --> 00:30:21,223 Providing safe. 1250 00:30:21,223 --> 00:30:22,625 Third spaces. 1251 00:30:22,625 --> 00:30:24,527 so what we'll do is we'll. 1252 00:30:24,527 --> 00:30:26,280 Partner with cmpd to look at 1253 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,130 the data to make sure that our. 1254 00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,699 Scope of work. 1255 00:30:28,699 --> 00:30:29,633 Is the right impact and. 1256 00:30:29,633 --> 00:30:30,000 That we're offering. 1257 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,334 These third. 1258 00:30:31,334 --> 00:30:32,302 >> spaces in the right places 1259 00:30:32,302 --> 00:30:33,270 across the city. 1260 00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:34,337 We had a. 1261 00:30:34,337 --> 00:30:34,704 >> great conversation with the 1262 00:30:34,704 --> 00:30:36,704 parks. 1263 00:30:36,806 --> 00:30:38,541 >> and rec department today to 1264 00:30:38,541 --> 00:30:39,676 coordinate youth activities 1265 00:30:39,676 --> 00:30:41,676 during teacher workdays. 1266 00:30:41,711 --> 00:30:43,112 So we're looking at any. 1267 00:30:43,112 --> 00:30:43,913 Free and available time. 1268 00:30:43,913 --> 00:30:46,250 >> that the youth have. 1269 00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:47,517 How can we contribute to giving 1270 00:30:47,517 --> 00:30:48,184 them something else to do 1271 00:30:48,184 --> 00:30:48,652 that's going to. 1272 00:30:48,652 --> 00:30:49,753 Help them. 1273 00:30:49,753 --> 00:30:51,288 >> with their upward mobility? 1274 00:30:51,288 --> 00:30:51,755 And last but not least we're. 1275 00:30:51,755 --> 00:30:53,156 Looking at. 1276 00:30:53,156 --> 00:30:55,156 Partnering again with. 1277 00:30:55,825 --> 00:30:56,960 The ymca to expand programing 1278 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,610 and partnerships with their 1279 00:30:58,610 --> 00:31:00,610 teen activation center. 1280 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,330 And with that program alone we 1281 00:31:02,330 --> 00:31:02,266 can additionally touch and 1282 00:31:02,266 --> 00:31:03,767 impact. 1283 00:31:03,767 --> 00:31:05,636 Over 200 youth. 1284 00:31:05,636 --> 00:31:06,103 I'm going to turn it back. 1285 00:31:06,103 --> 00:31:08,103 Over to. 1286 00:31:08,138 --> 00:31:10,138 >> chief patterson. 1287 00:31:11,575 --> 00:31:13,910 So we will wrap. 1288 00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:15,145 Up today by just again going 1289 00:31:15,145 --> 00:31:16,113 over these recommendations that 1290 00:31:16,113 --> 00:31:17,848 we put before you. 1291 00:31:17,848 --> 00:31:19,583 We want to increase our curfew 1292 00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:20,584 age to include all minors 17 1293 00:31:20,584 --> 00:31:22,119 and younger. 1294 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,488 We want to lower the curfew 1295 00:31:24,488 --> 00:31:25,956 time to 9 P.M. Every day of the 1296 00:31:25,956 --> 00:31:27,910 week and then abide by those 1297 00:31:27,910 --> 00:31:27,725 exceptions that we currently 1298 00:31:27,725 --> 00:31:29,426 have in place. 1299 00:31:29,426 --> 00:31:31,280 We certainly appreciate your 1300 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:31,995 patience and listen to our 1301 00:31:31,995 --> 00:31:33,130 presentation at this time we're 1302 00:31:33,130 --> 00:31:33,897 open up to any questions you. 1303 00:31:33,897 --> 00:31:36,297 >> MAY have of us. 1304 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,702 Thank you, chief patterson I 1305 00:31:37,702 --> 00:31:37,936 know we have. 1306 00:31:37,936 --> 00:31:39,637 Uh. 1307 00:31:39,637 --> 00:31:40,104 >> three council members who. 1308 00:31:40,104 --> 00:31:40,571 Have asked. 1309 00:31:40,571 --> 00:31:41,672 Uh. 1310 00:31:41,672 --> 00:31:42,773 >> hoops for. 1311 00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:43,707 Um and I'll. 1312 00:31:43,707 --> 00:31:45,576 Start five. 1313 00:31:45,576 --> 00:31:46,770 I'll start with council member. 1314 00:31:46,770 --> 00:31:48,770 Esmeralda. 1315 00:31:48,245 --> 00:31:49,180 >> thank you. 1316 00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:51,180 >> mayor harrington. 1317 00:31:52,749 --> 00:31:54,786 Chief, thank you for your. 1318 00:31:54,786 --> 00:31:56,387 Leadership and thanks to all 1319 00:31:56,387 --> 00:31:56,888 the law enforcement here in the 1320 00:31:56,888 --> 00:31:57,822 room and all. 1321 00:31:57,822 --> 00:31:58,623 The partners who are. 1322 00:31:58,623 --> 00:31:59,891 Here today. 1323 00:31:59,891 --> 00:32:01,425 >> I did see the us attorney. 1324 00:32:01,425 --> 00:32:01,726 Uh, thank you for being. 1325 00:32:01,726 --> 00:32:02,226 Here and. 1326 00:32:02,226 --> 00:32:03,294 >> for your. 1327 00:32:03,294 --> 00:32:03,795 >> leadership collaborating 1328 00:32:03,795 --> 00:32:04,729 with cmpd. 1329 00:32:04,729 --> 00:32:06,130 We appreciate you. 1330 00:32:06,130 --> 00:32:08,130 Um. 1331 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:09,200 So if. 1332 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,334 >> we. 1333 00:32:10,334 --> 00:32:13,405 Can go back to the exception. 1334 00:32:13,405 --> 00:32:13,672 Slide because I am getting 1335 00:32:13,672 --> 00:32:15,672 questions. 1336 00:32:17,208 --> 00:32:19,677 About oh, my child is. 1337 00:32:19,677 --> 00:32:19,878 Working night shift, would that 1338 00:32:19,878 --> 00:32:21,878 apply. 1339 00:32:22,213 --> 00:32:23,147 Or they. 1340 00:32:23,147 --> 00:32:24,820 Have youth cam. 1341 00:32:24,820 --> 00:32:24,849 >> would that apply? 1342 00:32:24,849 --> 00:32:25,750 >> so I think. 1343 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:27,285 I do. 1344 00:32:27,285 --> 00:32:29,200 Want every parent to. 1345 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:29,220 Understand that this would not 1346 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:31,220 . 1347 00:32:31,223 --> 00:32:33,258 Apply to employment activity. 1348 00:32:33,258 --> 00:32:34,693 Or if they. 1349 00:32:34,693 --> 00:32:35,226 Are part. 1350 00:32:35,226 --> 00:32:35,727 Of some. 1351 00:32:35,727 --> 00:32:37,727 >> sort. 1352 00:32:37,729 --> 00:32:38,196 Of organized opportunity. 1353 00:32:38,196 --> 00:32:38,763 Yes. 1354 00:32:38,763 --> 00:32:40,465 >> so I. 1355 00:32:40,465 --> 00:32:41,900 Just want to make that very 1356 00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:43,802 clear to your point chief, this 1357 00:32:43,802 --> 00:32:45,670 is not criminalizing our youth. 1358 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:46,304 Uh this is. 1359 00:32:46,304 --> 00:32:47,706 To keep. 1360 00:32:47,706 --> 00:32:48,173 >> our community safe. 1361 00:32:48,173 --> 00:32:50,173 Um. 1362 00:32:50,509 --> 00:32:50,709 >> I know this is just the one 1363 00:32:50,709 --> 00:32:52,277 tool. 1364 00:32:52,277 --> 00:32:54,145 That is. 1365 00:32:54,145 --> 00:32:55,714 In our hands. 1366 00:32:55,714 --> 00:32:56,181 To keep our community. 1367 00:32:56,181 --> 00:32:57,282 Safe. 1368 00:32:57,282 --> 00:32:59,282 >> but our bigger. 1369 00:32:59,618 --> 00:32:59,784 Responsibility is to have safe 1370 00:32:59,784 --> 00:33:01,219 . 1371 00:33:01,219 --> 00:33:02,621 Spaces for our youth. 1372 00:33:02,621 --> 00:33:03,722 I remember growing up. 1373 00:33:03,722 --> 00:33:04,255 I used. 1374 00:33:04,255 --> 00:33:06,125 >> to go to. 1375 00:33:06,125 --> 00:33:06,325 Mall during my summer breaks 1376 00:33:06,325 --> 00:33:07,326 when. 1377 00:33:07,326 --> 00:33:09,295 >> I was not working. 1378 00:33:09,295 --> 00:33:09,762 Uh, and we are seeing some. 1379 00:33:09,762 --> 00:33:10,996 >> of. 1380 00:33:10,996 --> 00:33:11,196 This opportunities are going 1381 00:33:11,196 --> 00:33:11,997 away. 1382 00:33:11,997 --> 00:33:13,232 >> there are not a. 1383 00:33:13,232 --> 00:33:14,633 Lot of gathering. 1384 00:33:14,633 --> 00:33:16,633 Spaces or safe. 1385 00:33:16,802 --> 00:33:17,269 Spaces for teens anymore. 1386 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:18,537 So I. 1387 00:33:18,537 --> 00:33:18,704 Appreciate the work that doctor 1388 00:33:18,704 --> 00:33:20,238 . 1389 00:33:20,238 --> 00:33:21,173 Stewart is doing collaborating. 1390 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:22,108 >> with the county. 1391 00:33:22,108 --> 00:33:23,976 To provide. 1392 00:33:23,976 --> 00:33:24,744 Opportunities to our youth. 1393 00:33:24,744 --> 00:33:26,145 Um. 1394 00:33:26,145 --> 00:33:26,479 Doctor stewart. 1395 00:33:26,479 --> 00:33:26,646 >> if. 1396 00:33:26,646 --> 00:33:27,460 You. 1397 00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:28,280 Could talk. 1398 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,149 About uh. 1399 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:31,250 How many. 1400 00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:31,517 Youth so. 1401 00:33:31,517 --> 00:33:32,718 far have. 1402 00:33:32,718 --> 00:33:33,185 >> been engaged. 1403 00:33:33,185 --> 00:33:33,485 >> through some. 1404 00:33:33,485 --> 00:33:33,652 >> of. 1405 00:33:33,652 --> 00:33:34,753 The. 1406 00:33:34,753 --> 00:33:36,455 Opportunities whether. 1407 00:33:36,455 --> 00:33:36,822 That's directly with the city 1408 00:33:36,822 --> 00:33:37,289 or. 1409 00:33:37,289 --> 00:33:38,990 That's in. 1410 00:33:38,990 --> 00:33:39,258 >> partnership with other 1411 00:33:39,258 --> 00:33:41,258 agencies? 1412 00:33:41,528 --> 00:33:44,998 So as it relates to youth being 1413 00:33:44,998 --> 00:33:46,432 involved, 683 as it relates to 1414 00:33:46,432 --> 00:33:47,733 employment or career 1415 00:33:47,733 --> 00:33:48,701 experiences and a little bit 1416 00:33:48,701 --> 00:33:50,403 over 5000. 1417 00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:51,237 >> as it relates to us just 1418 00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:53,237 having contact. 1419 00:33:53,572 --> 00:33:54,874 >> with them through um pop 1420 00:33:54,874 --> 00:33:55,641 ups, through trainings, through 1421 00:33:55,641 --> 00:33:57,544 meeting them where they are. 1422 00:33:57,544 --> 00:33:58,645 So we've had a really uh 1423 00:33:58,645 --> 00:33:59,913 impactful year this. 1424 00:33:59,913 --> 00:34:00,413 >> year and our plan is to 1425 00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:01,181 continue that work. 1426 00:34:01,181 --> 00:34:02,282 Going forward. 1427 00:34:02,282 --> 00:34:04,170 If I. 1428 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:05,118 >> could add to that council 1429 00:34:05,118 --> 00:34:07,118 member as mayor. 1430 00:34:07,487 --> 00:34:09,550 Um, deputy chief brawley talked 1431 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:10,220 about over the summer when we 1432 00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:10,423 realized these teen takeovers 1433 00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:12,391 were happening. 1434 00:34:12,391 --> 00:34:14,160 We coordinated with families 1435 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,361 with parents to be able to drop 1436 00:34:14,361 --> 00:34:15,428 their. 1437 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:15,796 Children off in a responsible 1438 00:34:15,796 --> 00:34:17,796 location. 1439 00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:20,330 We had over 1800 youth for the 1440 00:34:20,330 --> 00:34:20,600 six events that we partnered 1441 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,868 with the county with. 1442 00:34:21,868 --> 00:34:23,436 And I. 1443 00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:23,803 Think those are the 1444 00:34:23,803 --> 00:34:24,370 opportunities. 1445 00:34:24,370 --> 00:34:24,504 That we. 1446 00:34:24,504 --> 00:34:26,504 >> need to. 1447 00:34:26,506 --> 00:34:26,839 Continue to highlight, uh, so 1448 00:34:26,839 --> 00:34:27,940 that. 1449 00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:29,342 Teens have. 1450 00:34:29,342 --> 00:34:31,210 Safe spaces to go. 1451 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:32,279 to, safe spaces to. 1452 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:33,680 Have opportunities. 1453 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,148 Whether that's through 1454 00:34:35,148 --> 00:34:35,315 mentorship or a job opportunity 1455 00:34:35,315 --> 00:34:36,717 . 1456 00:34:36,717 --> 00:34:37,718 Or workforce development. 1457 00:34:37,718 --> 00:34:39,718 Opportunities. 1458 00:34:40,321 --> 00:34:41,388 >> um, because. 1459 00:34:41,388 --> 00:34:42,789 I think that's where. 1460 00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:43,490 We need to continue. 1461 00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:45,490 >> to focus on. 1462 00:34:45,525 --> 00:34:45,759 So if we can continue to 1463 00:34:45,759 --> 00:34:47,759 expand. 1464 00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:49,830 That program, MR. Jones, I know 1465 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:51,231 this is something we started. 1466 00:34:51,231 --> 00:34:51,632 Uh, the council. 1467 00:34:51,632 --> 00:34:53,500 >> had. 1468 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:54,768 Approved in our budget just 1469 00:34:54,768 --> 00:34:55,202 last year and I. 1470 00:34:55,202 --> 00:34:56,970 >> think. 1471 00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:59,506 We've come a long way to seeing 1472 00:34:59,506 --> 00:35:00,140 hundreds of youth that have 1473 00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:00,674 been engaged. 1474 00:35:00,674 --> 00:35:01,341 >> I would. 1475 00:35:01,341 --> 00:35:01,642 Like us to continue. 1476 00:35:01,642 --> 00:35:02,709 >> to. 1477 00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:04,277 Expand that program. 1478 00:35:04,277 --> 00:35:04,845 Uh, not just in the summer. 1479 00:35:04,845 --> 00:35:05,679 >> but. 1480 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:06,781 Especially when there is a. 1481 00:35:06,781 --> 00:35:07,882 Teacher workday. 1482 00:35:07,882 --> 00:35:09,882 Uh, at cms. 1483 00:35:10,217 --> 00:35:10,885 I'm a cms parents I can tell 1484 00:35:10,885 --> 00:35:11,819 you they have many. 1485 00:35:11,819 --> 00:35:12,753 Teacher workdays. 1486 00:35:12,753 --> 00:35:13,530 And I think that's. 1487 00:35:13,530 --> 00:35:13,554 Where we. 1488 00:35:13,554 --> 00:35:14,155 >> need to. 1489 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:15,723 Continue to. 1490 00:35:15,723 --> 00:35:16,824 Provide safe opportunities. 1491 00:35:16,824 --> 00:35:17,758 For our youth. 1492 00:35:17,758 --> 00:35:19,930 Uh, so. 1493 00:35:19,930 --> 00:35:19,393 >> that they have a safe 1494 00:35:19,393 --> 00:35:20,527 environment. 1495 00:35:20,527 --> 00:35:21,295 And that's all I have. 1496 00:35:21,295 --> 00:35:22,462 Again. 1497 00:35:22,462 --> 00:35:22,829 >> chief, I appreciate the work 1498 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:23,163 that. 1499 00:35:23,163 --> 00:35:24,699 >> you. 1500 00:35:24,699 --> 00:35:24,899 And your team are doing to 1501 00:35:24,899 --> 00:35:25,833 keep. 1502 00:35:25,833 --> 00:35:26,300 Our community safe. 1503 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,300 Thank you. 1504 00:35:28,336 --> 00:35:30,736 >> to council member perry. 1505 00:35:31,139 --> 00:35:33,700 Thank you, MR. Mayor. 1506 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:34,141 Uh, thank you, chief and doctor 1507 00:35:34,141 --> 00:35:34,675 stewart and, um, all. 1508 00:35:34,675 --> 00:35:36,243 >> the. 1509 00:35:36,243 --> 00:35:37,211 Cmpd staff and our partners for 1510 00:35:37,211 --> 00:35:38,446 the work that you're doing. 1511 00:35:38,446 --> 00:35:39,746 And thank you, uh, to members 1512 00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:40,848 of the public who have weighed 1513 00:35:40,848 --> 00:35:42,283 in on this and. 1514 00:35:42,283 --> 00:35:43,351 Are, um, keen on. 1515 00:35:43,351 --> 00:35:43,718 Ensuring that we're investing 1516 00:35:43,718 --> 00:35:44,252 in. 1517 00:35:44,252 --> 00:35:44,719 >> our youth. 1518 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,719 Um. 1519 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,356 I've got a couple of questions 1520 00:35:48,356 --> 00:35:50,691 because I want to make sure. 1521 00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:51,826 I understand the intended cause 1522 00:35:51,826 --> 00:35:52,760 and effect here. 1523 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,328 Uh. 1524 00:35:54,328 --> 00:35:55,263 >> you mentioned a little. 1525 00:35:55,263 --> 00:35:56,664 While you all mentioned. 1526 00:35:56,664 --> 00:35:58,664 Earlier in your. 1527 00:35:58,832 --> 00:36:01,360 Uh in your presentation here. 1528 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,369 Some of the other benchmarking 1529 00:36:01,369 --> 00:36:01,703 cities. 1530 00:36:01,703 --> 00:36:02,204 Um. 1531 00:36:02,204 --> 00:36:02,837 >> and you. 1532 00:36:02,837 --> 00:36:03,171 >> mentioned that myrtle. 1533 00:36:03,171 --> 00:36:04,739 Beach saw a. 1534 00:36:04,739 --> 00:36:06,739 Correlation between the. 1535 00:36:06,775 --> 00:36:07,800 Their time period, their 9 P.M. 1536 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:07,742 Versus. 1537 00:36:07,742 --> 00:36:09,310 Their later. 1538 00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:10,445 I'd like to understand a little 1539 00:36:10,445 --> 00:36:11,846 bit more about why we believe. 1540 00:36:11,846 --> 00:36:12,313 That 9. 1541 00:36:12,313 --> 00:36:12,780 >> P.M.. 1542 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:14,315 Is the. 1543 00:36:14,315 --> 00:36:15,349 Correct time. 1544 00:36:15,349 --> 00:36:15,883 >> as it relates to when 1545 00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:17,883 incidents are happening. 1546 00:36:17,886 --> 00:36:18,854 And then if you could talk to 1547 00:36:18,854 --> 00:36:20,555 me a little bit about. 1548 00:36:20,555 --> 00:36:21,990 The nature of these activities, 1549 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:23,591 you all have already mentioned 1550 00:36:23,591 --> 00:36:25,193 that you've been able to host 1551 00:36:25,193 --> 00:36:25,593 several of these activities 1552 00:36:25,593 --> 00:36:27,593 without incident. 1553 00:36:27,729 --> 00:36:27,896 Uh, for large numbers of teens 1554 00:36:27,896 --> 00:36:29,164 . 1555 00:36:29,164 --> 00:36:31,650 So I just want to understand a 1556 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:31,866 little bit more about the 1557 00:36:31,866 --> 00:36:33,267 factors that you believe. 1558 00:36:33,267 --> 00:36:34,703 Are. 1559 00:36:34,703 --> 00:36:36,703 >> influencing juvenile crime 1560 00:36:36,906 --> 00:36:38,600 and why this is the answer. 1561 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:38,774 Does that make sense? 1562 00:36:38,774 --> 00:36:40,209 Yes ma'am. 1563 00:36:40,209 --> 00:36:40,542 And thank you doctor watlington 1564 00:36:40,542 --> 00:36:41,777 for that. 1565 00:36:41,777 --> 00:36:43,712 So we'll start off with you 1566 00:36:43,712 --> 00:36:44,813 saying how did we arrive at the 1567 00:36:44,813 --> 00:36:46,813 9:00 time frame. 1568 00:36:47,148 --> 00:36:49,551 And so really just looking 1569 00:36:49,551 --> 00:36:51,219 across at the time where we see 1570 00:36:51,219 --> 00:36:52,321 the most youth start to gather 1571 00:36:52,321 --> 00:36:53,622 gather and then also to from a 1572 00:36:53,622 --> 00:36:53,956 safety perspective that about 1573 00:36:53,956 --> 00:36:54,457 9:00. 1574 00:36:54,457 --> 00:36:55,190 Is when it. 1575 00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:57,392 >> starts to get dark. 1576 00:36:57,392 --> 00:36:59,628 Um and so looking at that and 1577 00:36:59,628 --> 00:37:00,729 just knowing after it gets dark 1578 00:37:00,729 --> 00:37:02,164 typically is when we start to 1579 00:37:02,164 --> 00:37:04,399 see the youth congregate and 1580 00:37:04,399 --> 00:37:05,667 they're out with our current um 1581 00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:07,102 ordinance we have to wait to 1582 00:37:07,102 --> 00:37:08,704 10:00 if they're younger 1583 00:37:08,704 --> 00:37:11,730 children we have to wait till 1584 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:12,410 11:00 by then is so many young 1585 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:13,776 people in one space. 1586 00:37:13,776 --> 00:37:15,678 It's hard to disperse them is 1587 00:37:15,678 --> 00:37:16,946 hard to determine who's who and 1588 00:37:16,946 --> 00:37:18,470 who MAY have a weapon on them. 1589 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:19,648 So that's where we landed on 1590 00:37:19,648 --> 00:37:21,830 the 9 P.M. That is that general 1591 00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:22,217 time when it starts to get dark 1592 00:37:22,217 --> 00:37:23,485 and we can get a handle on 1593 00:37:23,485 --> 00:37:25,354 what's going on and just. 1594 00:37:25,354 --> 00:37:25,654 Basic crime theory if you will 1595 00:37:25,654 --> 00:37:27,190 forgive me. 1596 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:27,857 I'm obviously not a law 1597 00:37:27,857 --> 00:37:29,259 enforcement officer. 1598 00:37:29,259 --> 00:37:31,160 Why does it matter if it's dark 1599 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,361 as it relates to incident 1600 00:37:31,361 --> 00:37:31,661 rates? 1601 00:37:31,661 --> 00:37:33,620 right? 1602 00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:35,131 >> we just have seen from our 1603 00:37:35,131 --> 00:37:36,566 data that after dark under the 1604 00:37:36,566 --> 00:37:37,867 cloak of darkness is when we 1605 00:37:37,867 --> 00:37:40,669 tend to see crime occur. 1606 00:37:40,669 --> 00:37:41,637 The numbers that deputy chief 1607 00:37:41,637 --> 00:37:44,174 brawley shared with you we 1608 00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:46,750 looked specifically at 1609 00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:47,811 victimization after 9 P.M. Just 1610 00:37:47,811 --> 00:37:49,112 to see what those numbers were 1611 00:37:49,112 --> 00:37:50,680 and we compared them with last 1612 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680 year's numbers with 2025 1613 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,820 numbers in 20 in fy 2025 there 1614 00:37:56,219 --> 00:37:57,987 were 406 juvenile victims um 1615 00:37:57,987 --> 00:37:59,722 after 9 P.M. So that seems to 1616 00:37:59,722 --> 00:38:01,958 be the time where we see those 1617 00:38:01,958 --> 00:38:03,393 spikes kind of go up with our 1618 00:38:03,393 --> 00:38:04,361 crime and that's how we you 1619 00:38:04,361 --> 00:38:05,462 know, we use that in 1620 00:38:05,462 --> 00:38:05,662 determining as well what a 1621 00:38:05,662 --> 00:38:06,129 good. 1622 00:38:06,129 --> 00:38:08,310 Time is. 1623 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:08,498 And just for comparison's sake, 1624 00:38:08,498 --> 00:38:10,498 do we have. 1625 00:38:11,935 --> 00:38:13,690 Those same um, numbers for the 1626 00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:13,536 11 P.M. And lighter window? 1627 00:38:13,536 --> 00:38:14,938 We is. 1628 00:38:14,938 --> 00:38:15,638 >> that additional two. 1629 00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:16,720 >> hours right. 1630 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:16,505 We did not pull. 1631 00:38:16,505 --> 00:38:17,607 >> those. 1632 00:38:17,607 --> 00:38:18,374 Numbers but we certainly can. 1633 00:38:18,374 --> 00:38:19,476 >> sure that would be great. 1634 00:38:19,476 --> 00:38:20,110 I'd be very interested to. 1635 00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:20,510 See uh. 1636 00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:21,145 What the. 1637 00:38:21,145 --> 00:38:23,800 >> difference would. 1638 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,481 Be between those two hours. 1639 00:38:24,481 --> 00:38:24,882 Um and. 1640 00:38:24,882 --> 00:38:25,949 >> then can. 1641 00:38:25,949 --> 00:38:26,449 You speak a little bit to the 1642 00:38:26,449 --> 00:38:27,250 nature of. 1643 00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,180 >> the activity? 1644 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:29,586 Why having. 1645 00:38:29,586 --> 00:38:31,586 Structured events. 1646 00:38:32,722 --> 00:38:33,560 After 9:00 for teens MAY result 1647 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:33,990 in low. 1648 00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:35,492 Incident rate or. 1649 00:38:35,492 --> 00:38:36,250 >> no incident rate versus the 1650 00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,250 un structure. 1651 00:38:38,462 --> 00:38:39,430 so since deputy chief bradley 1652 00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:39,697 still has young people in the 1653 00:38:39,697 --> 00:38:40,197 house, I. 1654 00:38:40,197 --> 00:38:41,431 Think she. 1655 00:38:41,431 --> 00:38:42,660 She can address. 1656 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:43,233 That probably. 1657 00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:43,700 >> better than some of us. 1658 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,700 >> perfect. 1659 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,771 >> good evening ma'am. 1660 00:38:47,771 --> 00:38:50,273 So one of the things and I'll 1661 00:38:50,273 --> 00:38:52,175 just use a real life experience 1662 00:38:52,175 --> 00:38:52,542 with um, and university at 1663 00:38:52,542 --> 00:38:52,843 university. 1664 00:38:52,843 --> 00:38:54,843 What? 1665 00:38:57,548 --> 00:38:57,915 So, uh, before dark we had a. 1666 00:38:57,915 --> 00:38:59,160 >> lot. 1667 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,317 Of teens gather and just kind 1668 00:39:00,317 --> 00:39:03,287 of walking around the boardwalk 1669 00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:06,757 hanging out again as she says 1670 00:39:06,757 --> 00:39:07,124 soon as 9:00 darkness hit, um, 1671 00:39:07,124 --> 00:39:07,591 ski mask. 1672 00:39:07,591 --> 00:39:08,525 Come on. 1673 00:39:08,525 --> 00:39:10,227 Hoodies come on. 1674 00:39:10,227 --> 00:39:11,610 And then you can just see the 1675 00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:12,330 energy and until you are 1676 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:13,598 actually you're in it and feel 1677 00:39:13,598 --> 00:39:14,566 it is really hard to. 1678 00:39:14,566 --> 00:39:16,566 Explain it. 1679 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,200 Um, as we started with. 1680 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,200 Educating the. 1681 00:39:20,505 --> 00:39:22,239 Kids around there and myself um 1682 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,841 ,and many of the team from 1683 00:39:23,841 --> 00:39:24,975 again uptown and university 1684 00:39:24,975 --> 00:39:26,760 division started walking around 1685 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,440 and educating kids hey you you 1686 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:27,611 need to go home. 1687 00:39:27,611 --> 00:39:28,178 It's getting dark. 1688 00:39:28,178 --> 00:39:30,178 I will. 1689 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:33,485 >> say about 300 kids about 75 1690 00:39:33,485 --> 00:39:34,152 to 80 were like we just came 1691 00:39:34,152 --> 00:39:34,786 here to hangout. 1692 00:39:34,786 --> 00:39:36,200 If y'all. 1693 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,221 Talk about we got to go home, 1694 00:39:36,221 --> 00:39:36,921 we're. 1695 00:39:36,921 --> 00:39:37,789 >> going to go home. 1696 00:39:37,789 --> 00:39:39,357 And they started calling their 1697 00:39:39,357 --> 00:39:40,658 parents and they started going 1698 00:39:40,658 --> 00:39:42,126 home to the point where we had 1699 00:39:42,126 --> 00:39:43,994 to stop traffic on university 1700 00:39:43,994 --> 00:39:45,262 and harris to let parents get 1701 00:39:45,262 --> 00:39:46,565 in to come and get their kids 1702 00:39:46,565 --> 00:39:49,401 because they genuinely did drop 1703 00:39:49,401 --> 00:39:50,836 their kids off to hang out, 1704 00:39:50,836 --> 00:39:52,270 unknowing that it was going to 1705 00:39:52,270 --> 00:39:54,500 turn into a teen takeover. 1706 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:54,639 Now again though, there are 200 1707 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:55,673 and some. 1708 00:39:55,673 --> 00:39:57,375 >> kids who decided to stay. 1709 00:39:57,375 --> 00:39:58,209 That's the one video you saw 1710 00:39:58,209 --> 00:39:59,744 where the fights began. 1711 00:39:59,744 --> 00:40:00,878 Um there were several parents 1712 00:40:00,878 --> 00:40:02,947 who were pepper sprayed by 1713 00:40:02,947 --> 00:40:04,850 other teens um, trying to get 1714 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:05,517 their children from being 1715 00:40:05,517 --> 00:40:06,118 assaulted by. 1716 00:40:06,118 --> 00:40:07,219 >> other kids. 1717 00:40:07,219 --> 00:40:07,619 Um, obviously. 1718 00:40:07,619 --> 00:40:08,530 >> we. 1719 00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:09,888 Took a. 1720 00:40:09,888 --> 00:40:12,900 >> gun off of a juvenile so a 1721 00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:14,493 lot of it is they are looking 1722 00:40:14,493 --> 00:40:15,594 for somewhere to hang out a 1723 00:40:15,594 --> 00:40:16,940 portion of them but some of 1724 00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:18,940 them is not. 1725 00:40:18,897 --> 00:40:20,398 And so again, as someone who's 1726 00:40:20,398 --> 00:40:22,301 currently raising a 13 year old 1727 00:40:22,301 --> 00:40:23,402 who's raised two adult kids now 1728 00:40:23,402 --> 00:40:26,402 they are just looking for 1729 00:40:26,405 --> 00:40:28,474 somewhere to go safe and with a 1730 00:40:28,474 --> 00:40:29,274 major tell us is team and 1731 00:40:29,274 --> 00:40:29,641 mecklenburg county sheriff's 1732 00:40:29,641 --> 00:40:30,876 office. 1733 00:40:30,876 --> 00:40:31,543 They were able to put on these 1734 00:40:31,543 --> 00:40:33,543 events that. 1735 00:40:33,879 --> 00:40:35,781 Had hundreds of kids at them 1736 00:40:35,781 --> 00:40:36,748 with zero incidents because 1737 00:40:36,748 --> 00:40:38,350 those kids are looking for 1738 00:40:38,350 --> 00:40:38,716 somewhere to hang out and do 1739 00:40:38,716 --> 00:40:39,786 something. 1740 00:40:39,786 --> 00:40:41,854 But we have to be very 1741 00:40:41,854 --> 00:40:43,456 cognizant there are a group and 1742 00:40:43,456 --> 00:40:45,991 there's a section ality of kids 1743 00:40:45,991 --> 00:40:48,827 who are looking to cause 1744 00:40:48,827 --> 00:40:49,628 disturbance and settle disputes 1745 00:40:49,628 --> 00:40:50,262 and so they. 1746 00:40:50,262 --> 00:40:52,130 Will meet up. 1747 00:40:52,130 --> 00:40:53,732 As that place to do it because 1748 00:40:53,732 --> 00:40:54,866 they can't you know, school is 1749 00:40:54,866 --> 00:40:55,967 out so they're not going to 1750 00:40:55,967 --> 00:40:56,168 trespass or something like that 1751 00:40:56,168 --> 00:40:56,803 . 1752 00:40:56,803 --> 00:40:57,904 That makes sense. 1753 00:40:57,904 --> 00:40:59,939 So it sounds like for the 1754 00:40:59,939 --> 00:41:02,800 structured events you're a 1755 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,275 particular um a particular 1756 00:41:03,275 --> 00:41:04,577 seeker if you will shows up for 1757 00:41:04,577 --> 00:41:05,544 the structural events because 1758 00:41:05,544 --> 00:41:06,512 most of the kids are just 1759 00:41:06,512 --> 00:41:08,280 looking for something to do and 1760 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,949 it is because there are other 1761 00:41:10,949 --> 00:41:12,551 kids around that those who have 1762 00:41:12,551 --> 00:41:16,550 other motives are able to come 1763 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:16,489 in and be and be um disruptive. 1764 00:41:16,489 --> 00:41:16,789 Yes, ma'am. 1765 00:41:16,789 --> 00:41:18,191 Okay. 1766 00:41:18,191 --> 00:41:20,526 That makes sense to me. 1767 00:41:20,526 --> 00:41:20,793 Um, just a couple more 1768 00:41:20,793 --> 00:41:22,793 questions. 1769 00:41:23,229 --> 00:41:26,320 I wanted to understand how. 1770 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,201 Walk me through for someone who 1771 00:41:29,201 --> 00:41:31,601 would say 17 year olds. 1772 00:41:31,872 --> 00:41:32,672 Out at 9 P.M. In and of itself 1773 00:41:32,672 --> 00:41:34,730 should not be an issue. 1774 00:41:34,730 --> 00:41:34,708 We've heard the exceptions. 1775 00:41:34,708 --> 00:41:36,708 Um. 1776 00:41:36,743 --> 00:41:38,445 If there is an event. 1777 00:41:38,445 --> 00:41:39,112 However that's not school 1778 00:41:39,112 --> 00:41:39,912 sanctioned for instance they're 1779 00:41:39,912 --> 00:41:41,214 going to the movies or 1780 00:41:41,214 --> 00:41:43,214 something like that. 1781 00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:44,350 Can you walk me through what 1782 00:41:44,350 --> 00:41:44,684 implementation looks like in 1783 00:41:44,684 --> 00:41:46,118 practice? 1784 00:41:46,118 --> 00:41:47,220 Because I heard what you said, 1785 00:41:47,220 --> 00:41:48,821 chief in regards to you simply 1786 00:41:48,821 --> 00:41:49,556 don't have the staff to try to 1787 00:41:49,556 --> 00:41:50,991 catch some of the adult 1788 00:41:50,991 --> 00:41:51,191 criminals at this at this stage 1789 00:41:51,191 --> 00:41:52,893 . 1790 00:41:52,893 --> 00:41:55,893 So certainly you don't have 1791 00:41:55,896 --> 00:41:56,129 extra bodies to to be curfew 1792 00:41:56,129 --> 00:41:57,964 police. 1793 00:41:57,964 --> 00:41:59,566 Um that said what then does 1794 00:41:59,566 --> 00:41:59,733 this does this enable you to do 1795 00:41:59,733 --> 00:42:00,300 . 1796 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:01,234 How would it look? 1797 00:42:01,234 --> 00:42:03,234 Yes ma'am. 1798 00:42:04,204 --> 00:42:05,171 >> and so 17 the reason why we 1799 00:42:05,171 --> 00:42:07,740 went with 17 is because you 1800 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:08,342 cannot distinguish the age of 1801 00:42:08,342 --> 00:42:09,943 these young people and 1802 00:42:09,943 --> 00:42:10,277 typically they don't have ids 1803 00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:12,277 on them. 1804 00:42:12,479 --> 00:42:13,513 So we know and I know for a 1805 00:42:13,513 --> 00:42:15,282 fact when I was at at ramiro 1806 00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:16,830 bruton bearden park on 4th of 1807 00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:17,551 JULY when I approached some 1808 00:42:17,551 --> 00:42:18,485 young people just to entertain 1809 00:42:18,485 --> 00:42:20,253 just to have conversation with 1810 00:42:20,253 --> 00:42:21,855 them the ones who were 18 says 1811 00:42:21,855 --> 00:42:22,656 I'm 18, here's my id and they 1812 00:42:22,656 --> 00:42:23,756 pulled it out. 1813 00:42:23,756 --> 00:42:24,258 The younger ones did not 1814 00:42:24,258 --> 00:42:24,692 because they. 1815 00:42:24,692 --> 00:42:25,726 >> don't. 1816 00:42:25,726 --> 00:42:25,926 Have an id, so it's hard for 1817 00:42:25,926 --> 00:42:27,926 us. 1818 00:42:27,961 --> 00:42:28,295 To determine the ages of these 1819 00:42:28,295 --> 00:42:30,295 youth right? 1820 00:42:31,265 --> 00:42:32,966 So 17 is a safe age still. 1821 00:42:32,966 --> 00:42:34,568 They're still a minor and they 1822 00:42:34,568 --> 00:42:34,768 probably don't have an id card 1823 00:42:34,768 --> 00:42:36,300 . 1824 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,137 Now the second part of your 1825 00:42:37,137 --> 00:42:38,105 question as far as them going 1826 00:42:38,105 --> 00:42:39,373 to a movie theater or something 1827 00:42:39,373 --> 00:42:40,674 like that so we understand that 1828 00:42:40,674 --> 00:42:42,543 is what young people do. 1829 00:42:42,543 --> 00:42:43,511 We are not trying to keep them 1830 00:42:43,511 --> 00:42:44,645 from doing those things 1831 00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:44,845 lawfully that that they enjoy 1832 00:42:44,845 --> 00:42:46,547 doing. 1833 00:42:46,547 --> 00:42:47,348 However there needs to be 1834 00:42:47,348 --> 00:42:49,383 supervision in doing it. 1835 00:42:49,383 --> 00:42:50,985 If a parent writes a note 1836 00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:52,253 saying that their child can go 1837 00:42:52,253 --> 00:42:53,821 to the movies or. 1838 00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:54,321 Supervise, we're not. 1839 00:42:54,321 --> 00:42:55,789 Out looking. 1840 00:42:55,789 --> 00:42:57,257 For those individuals. 1841 00:42:57,257 --> 00:42:59,270 In fact, we're not going to be 1842 00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:59,994 out looking for teens 1843 00:42:59,994 --> 00:43:01,896 necessarily that are outside 1844 00:43:01,896 --> 00:43:03,896 leading this ordinance. 1845 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:05,666 We need a tool that when they 1846 00:43:05,666 --> 00:43:07,102 do congregate and it starts to 1847 00:43:07,102 --> 00:43:08,690 go the route that the deputy 1848 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:09,503 chief talked about where the 1849 00:43:09,503 --> 00:43:10,638 ski masks come on and the 1850 00:43:10,638 --> 00:43:11,305 hoodie come on we just can't 1851 00:43:11,305 --> 00:43:13,305 sit idly by. 1852 00:43:13,307 --> 00:43:15,209 We can actually detain them. 1853 00:43:15,209 --> 00:43:16,100 We can actually call parents 1854 00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,245 and that kind of thing. 1855 00:43:17,245 --> 00:43:17,446 So that's what we're looking at 1856 00:43:17,446 --> 00:43:19,180 . 1857 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:21,820 Now in terms if this passes by 1858 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:22,500 this council, the way we will 1859 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,484 implement this is how we do 1860 00:43:23,484 --> 00:43:25,860 with many things is a 1861 00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:26,540 progressive enforcement that 1862 00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:26,321 begins with an education 1863 00:43:26,321 --> 00:43:27,622 campaign. 1864 00:43:27,622 --> 00:43:28,589 We want people to be well 1865 00:43:28,589 --> 00:43:28,956 educated, will work with cms 1866 00:43:28,956 --> 00:43:30,658 schools. 1867 00:43:30,658 --> 00:43:32,930 All our partners that are in 1868 00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:32,293 the audience to get the word 1869 00:43:32,293 --> 00:43:34,290 out. 1870 00:43:34,290 --> 00:43:34,996 From there we will do lots of 1871 00:43:34,996 --> 00:43:36,980 warnings and then when we have 1872 00:43:36,980 --> 00:43:36,531 to take enforcement we will 1873 00:43:36,531 --> 00:43:37,399 take enforcement. 1874 00:43:37,399 --> 00:43:38,500 So that would be the 1875 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:38,867 progressive step that we would 1876 00:43:38,867 --> 00:43:39,467 take. 1877 00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:40,435 Thank you for that. 1878 00:43:40,435 --> 00:43:42,637 And then in the winter time 1879 00:43:42,637 --> 00:43:44,720 when it gets dark at 5 P.M. How 1880 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:44,272 are you all thinking about 1881 00:43:44,272 --> 00:43:46,272 that? 1882 00:43:46,307 --> 00:43:46,808 The hours between 5 to 9 in the 1883 00:43:46,808 --> 00:43:47,742 winter time sure. 1884 00:43:47,742 --> 00:43:48,710 That's going to be more 1885 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:50,311 challenging of course because 1886 00:43:50,311 --> 00:43:51,245 it is dark and you might have 1887 00:43:51,245 --> 00:43:52,748 people hanging out. 1888 00:43:52,748 --> 00:43:53,715 Um, I think what we're going to 1889 00:43:53,715 --> 00:43:55,484 run into kind of the same 1890 00:43:55,484 --> 00:43:55,951 issues because it's going to be 1891 00:43:55,951 --> 00:43:56,418 dark if they want. 1892 00:43:56,418 --> 00:43:57,190 >> to meet. 1893 00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:57,319 >> up, they're going. 1894 00:43:57,319 --> 00:43:57,719 >> to. 1895 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,453 Start meeting up. 1896 00:43:58,453 --> 00:44:00,388 We're going to have to kind of 1897 00:44:00,388 --> 00:44:01,956 wait until 9 P.M. Before we can 1898 00:44:01,956 --> 00:44:03,825 take effective enforcement. 1899 00:44:03,825 --> 00:44:05,593 However, I feel that through 1900 00:44:05,593 --> 00:44:08,129 the education campaign once the 1901 00:44:08,129 --> 00:44:09,398 word gets out parents will know 1902 00:44:09,398 --> 00:44:10,699 and we really need parents to 1903 00:44:10,699 --> 00:44:11,367 be involved with their youth as 1904 00:44:11,367 --> 00:44:12,100 long as they're. 1905 00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:12,768 >> doing something. 1906 00:44:12,768 --> 00:44:13,869 Productive and they're working, 1907 00:44:13,869 --> 00:44:14,870 they're doing whatever they're 1908 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:16,104 going to be covered. 1909 00:44:16,104 --> 00:44:17,706 But we want to prevent them 1910 00:44:17,706 --> 00:44:18,340 from just getting in those 1911 00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:18,607 situations that can cause 1912 00:44:18,607 --> 00:44:18,941 violence. 1913 00:44:18,941 --> 00:44:20,642 Thank you. 1914 00:44:20,642 --> 00:44:22,844 >> and my very last question I 1915 00:44:22,844 --> 00:44:24,146 think back to uh, a couple of 1916 00:44:24,146 --> 00:44:25,247 years ago where we had these 1917 00:44:25,247 --> 00:44:26,382 conversations with the general 1918 00:44:26,382 --> 00:44:26,883 assembly around. 1919 00:44:26,883 --> 00:44:27,183 >> uh, raising. 1920 00:44:27,183 --> 00:44:28,251 The age. 1921 00:44:28,251 --> 00:44:29,385 And then lowering the age that 1922 00:44:29,385 --> 00:44:31,253 relates to juvenile crime. 1923 00:44:31,253 --> 00:44:35,191 Can you just talk to me about 1924 00:44:35,191 --> 00:44:35,391 how that overlaps with this 1925 00:44:35,391 --> 00:44:37,391 work? 1926 00:44:37,893 --> 00:44:39,594 Um, yes. 1927 00:44:39,594 --> 00:44:40,496 And I'm going to ask attorney 1928 00:44:40,496 --> 00:44:41,330 battle if she would just kind 1929 00:44:41,330 --> 00:44:41,530 of address a little bit with 1930 00:44:41,530 --> 00:44:41,763 raise. 1931 00:44:41,763 --> 00:44:42,364 The age. 1932 00:44:42,364 --> 00:44:43,650 >>. 1933 00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:44,800 >> I'll just. 1934 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,201 Stand so you can see. 1935 00:44:45,201 --> 00:44:46,903 Me but. 1936 00:44:46,903 --> 00:44:48,871 >> so we raise the age. 1937 00:44:48,871 --> 00:44:50,306 >> that where, um, 16 and 17 1938 00:44:50,306 --> 00:44:50,840 year olds. 1939 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,575 >> were. 1940 00:44:52,575 --> 00:44:54,310 Changed for as it relates to 1941 00:44:54,310 --> 00:44:54,944 juvenile prosecution and. 1942 00:44:54,944 --> 00:44:55,344 So. 1943 00:44:55,344 --> 00:44:56,512 >> um. 1944 00:44:56,512 --> 00:44:57,746 >> you know, when you think in. 1945 00:44:57,746 --> 00:44:59,348 Hindsight sometimes changing 1946 00:44:59,348 --> 00:44:59,848 local ordinances. 1947 00:44:59,848 --> 00:45:00,282 >> to fit. 1948 00:45:00,282 --> 00:45:02,282 State law. 1949 00:45:02,619 --> 00:45:02,986 At a concurrent time frame is 1950 00:45:02,986 --> 00:45:03,519 helpful. 1951 00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:04,754 but I also. 1952 00:45:04,754 --> 00:45:05,555 Think changes in data. 1953 00:45:05,555 --> 00:45:06,789 Changes in. 1954 00:45:06,789 --> 00:45:07,991 >> trend affect. 1955 00:45:07,991 --> 00:45:09,991 Laws at a. 1956 00:45:09,992 --> 00:45:10,359 >> state level and a local 1957 00:45:10,359 --> 00:45:10,726 level. 1958 00:45:10,726 --> 00:45:11,828 And so. 1959 00:45:11,828 --> 00:45:12,328 This coincides because. 1960 00:45:12,328 --> 00:45:12,962 >> a. 1961 00:45:12,962 --> 00:45:13,930 Lot of the crimes. 1962 00:45:13,930 --> 00:45:14,330 >> that we see 16. 1963 00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:15,298 And 17. 1964 00:45:15,298 --> 00:45:17,298 >> year olds committing. 1965 00:45:17,767 --> 00:45:19,503 After this 9 P.M. Time are 1966 00:45:19,503 --> 00:45:20,337 crimes that are non diverting 1967 00:45:20,337 --> 00:45:21,905 crimes that can. 1968 00:45:21,905 --> 00:45:22,973 Be charged as an adult. 1969 00:45:22,973 --> 00:45:23,439 And so if. 1970 00:45:23,439 --> 00:45:23,907 Those same. 1971 00:45:23,907 --> 00:45:25,475 16 and. 1972 00:45:25,475 --> 00:45:26,876 17 year olds are who are. 1973 00:45:26,876 --> 00:45:28,611 Oftentimes committing. 1974 00:45:28,611 --> 00:45:29,412 These associated firearms 1975 00:45:29,412 --> 00:45:31,614 offenses that deputy chief. 1976 00:45:31,614 --> 00:45:32,882 Braley talked about if they are 1977 00:45:32,882 --> 00:45:33,983 in that curfew time. 1978 00:45:33,983 --> 00:45:34,384 Frame again when we. 1979 00:45:34,384 --> 00:45:35,451 >> talk. 1980 00:45:35,451 --> 00:45:36,720 About youth protection and. 1981 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,288 Raising the age, it all. 1982 00:45:38,288 --> 00:45:39,456 Coincides because. 1983 00:45:39,456 --> 00:45:40,324 That demographic. 1984 00:45:40,324 --> 00:45:42,125 >> of youth would. 1985 00:45:42,125 --> 00:45:43,693 >> now be required to be inside 1986 00:45:43,693 --> 00:45:45,462 earlier for an earlier 1987 00:45:45,462 --> 00:45:45,862 restricted hour and not have to 1988 00:45:45,862 --> 00:45:47,630 worry about the. 1989 00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:47,264 Sort of raise the age issue 1990 00:45:47,264 --> 00:45:48,310 with. 1991 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:49,265 >> our 16. 1992 00:45:49,265 --> 00:45:49,966 And 17. 1993 00:45:49,966 --> 00:45:50,366 >> year olds as well. 1994 00:45:50,366 --> 00:45:52,366 Thank you. 1995 00:45:52,869 --> 00:45:53,704 Just for planning purposes and 1996 00:45:53,704 --> 00:45:54,505 I'm going to come to council 1997 00:45:54,505 --> 00:45:56,373 member mayfield next. 1998 00:45:56,373 --> 00:45:57,700 Um I am going. 1999 00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:57,408 To move. 2000 00:45:57,408 --> 00:45:57,875 >> the. 2001 00:45:57,875 --> 00:45:59,276 other two. 2002 00:45:59,276 --> 00:46:00,544 Items at least one probably 2003 00:46:00,544 --> 00:46:02,779 both of the other two items 2004 00:46:02,779 --> 00:46:02,980 that are on the action preview 2005 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:03,580 here. 2006 00:46:03,580 --> 00:46:04,348 >> to the. 2007 00:46:04,348 --> 00:46:05,448 Manager's report. 2008 00:46:05,448 --> 00:46:06,820 So that we have time. 2009 00:46:06,820 --> 00:46:07,951 >> for the. 2010 00:46:07,951 --> 00:46:09,219 We have another matter that we 2011 00:46:09,219 --> 00:46:10,353 need to discuss and I want to 2012 00:46:10,353 --> 00:46:12,890 start that at least by 6:00. 2013 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:13,657 So if it's possible in our. 2014 00:46:13,657 --> 00:46:13,991 Comments we have 15 minutes 2015 00:46:13,991 --> 00:46:15,259 before. 2016 00:46:15,259 --> 00:46:17,194 6:00 if it's possible. 2017 00:46:17,194 --> 00:46:18,629 >> in our comments to avoid 2018 00:46:18,629 --> 00:46:18,962 redundancy of questions if 2019 00:46:18,962 --> 00:46:20,531 that's. 2020 00:46:20,531 --> 00:46:21,798 Possible and just ask the 2021 00:46:21,798 --> 00:46:21,998 council members uh please do 2022 00:46:21,998 --> 00:46:23,400 that. 2023 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,836 Thank you for those questions. 2024 00:46:24,836 --> 00:46:25,736 And council member mayfield. 2025 00:46:25,736 --> 00:46:26,836 . 2026 00:46:26,836 --> 00:46:27,938 Thank you. 2027 00:46:27,938 --> 00:46:29,340 Thank you MR. Mayor. 2028 00:46:29,340 --> 00:46:29,974 Thank you. 2029 00:46:29,974 --> 00:46:31,209 Chief and. 2030 00:46:31,209 --> 00:46:32,844 Team and all. 2031 00:46:32,844 --> 00:46:33,411 >> of our law enforcement. 2032 00:46:33,411 --> 00:46:34,745 . 2033 00:46:34,745 --> 00:46:35,846 >> this is getting ready to get 2034 00:46:35,846 --> 00:46:37,881 captured in a minute so. 2035 00:46:37,881 --> 00:46:38,816 Y'all can give us a report. 2036 00:46:38,816 --> 00:46:40,717 For the. 2037 00:46:40,717 --> 00:46:40,885 Questions that I'm going to ask 2038 00:46:40,885 --> 00:46:42,885 . 2039 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:43,554 Basically I want to have an 2040 00:46:43,554 --> 00:46:43,887 understanding. 2041 00:46:43,887 --> 00:46:44,655 Of it. 2042 00:46:44,655 --> 00:46:44,988 >> was mentioned. 2043 00:46:44,988 --> 00:46:46,624 That the. 2044 00:46:46,624 --> 00:46:46,858 >> store at the park and rec 2045 00:46:46,858 --> 00:46:47,592 passes. 2046 00:46:47,592 --> 00:46:48,359 I want to know. 2047 00:46:48,359 --> 00:46:49,294 Exactly how. 2048 00:46:49,294 --> 00:46:49,594 Those are going to be 2049 00:46:49,594 --> 00:46:50,610 distributed. 2050 00:46:50,610 --> 00:46:51,462 To the youth. 2051 00:46:51,462 --> 00:46:51,663 because of the youth that 2052 00:46:51,663 --> 00:46:52,897 we're. 2053 00:46:52,897 --> 00:46:53,431 Talking about, our youth. 2054 00:46:53,431 --> 00:46:55,166 >> that get. 2055 00:46:55,166 --> 00:46:56,600 Together online, then they're 2056 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:56,968 not necessarily the ones that 2057 00:46:56,968 --> 00:46:58,802 we're already. 2058 00:46:58,802 --> 00:46:59,300 Capturing if they're showing 2059 00:46:59,300 --> 00:46:59,937 up. 2060 00:46:59,937 --> 00:47:00,873 So it will be helpful to. 2061 00:47:00,873 --> 00:47:01,720 >> know exactly how that's 2062 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:01,772 going. 2063 00:47:01,772 --> 00:47:03,772 >> to happen. 2064 00:47:04,409 --> 00:47:06,444 Also I want to identify. 2065 00:47:06,444 --> 00:47:08,844 How the three priority. 2066 00:47:08,847 --> 00:47:09,470 Communities were identified 2067 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:10,381 when. 2068 00:47:10,381 --> 00:47:10,849 We've seen takeovers. 2069 00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:11,783 Happened in. 2070 00:47:11,783 --> 00:47:12,150 >> camp north. 2071 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:14,150 ,then. 2072 00:47:16,187 --> 00:47:16,421 >> in university out at the 2073 00:47:16,421 --> 00:47:17,789 outlet. 2074 00:47:17,789 --> 00:47:18,723 Potentially can happen. 2075 00:47:18,723 --> 00:47:19,524 >> at south park. 2076 00:47:19,524 --> 00:47:20,291 I want to know. 2077 00:47:20,291 --> 00:47:21,560 Have a better. 2078 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,629 Understanding of how these 2079 00:47:23,629 --> 00:47:23,962 priority communities were 2080 00:47:23,962 --> 00:47:25,962 identified. 2081 00:47:25,997 --> 00:47:27,398 I also want to know. 2082 00:47:27,398 --> 00:47:28,967 What current. 2083 00:47:28,967 --> 00:47:29,901 Organizations do we. 2084 00:47:29,901 --> 00:47:31,901 Have that. 2085 00:47:31,937 --> 00:47:32,137 Have events at the 9:00 for our 2086 00:47:32,137 --> 00:47:34,137 youth? 2087 00:47:34,906 --> 00:47:36,374 What I'm sorry one more time 2088 00:47:36,374 --> 00:47:37,141 current organizations or. 2089 00:47:37,141 --> 00:47:38,409 Partnerships do we. 2090 00:47:38,409 --> 00:47:39,478 Have that. 2091 00:47:39,478 --> 00:47:41,478 Have events. 2092 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,140 Available for our youth at the 2093 00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:43,582 9:00? 2094 00:47:43,582 --> 00:47:44,983 So back in. 2095 00:47:44,983 --> 00:47:45,917 2020 um. 2096 00:47:45,917 --> 00:47:47,486 Manager jones. 2097 00:47:47,486 --> 00:47:47,686 Knows but and you MAY have 2098 00:47:47,686 --> 00:47:48,453 read. 2099 00:47:48,453 --> 00:47:50,453 About it mayor. 2100 00:47:50,489 --> 00:47:52,570 Harrington in 2020 the. 2101 00:47:52,570 --> 00:47:53,458 city partnered with ymca. 2102 00:47:53,458 --> 00:47:54,392 We created. 2103 00:47:54,392 --> 00:47:55,493 A the. 2104 00:47:55,493 --> 00:47:57,830 We supported the level up. 2105 00:47:57,830 --> 00:47:59,899 Program which specifically was 2106 00:47:59,899 --> 00:48:01,467 a youth play at lock in on. 2107 00:48:01,467 --> 00:48:03,168 Fridays and saturdays in the. 2108 00:48:03,168 --> 00:48:03,369 Evenings where they had access 2109 00:48:03,369 --> 00:48:03,836 . 2110 00:48:03,836 --> 00:48:05,704 The biggest. 2111 00:48:05,704 --> 00:48:06,710 Challenge with if I'm 2112 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:07,500 understanding. 2113 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:07,906 Correctly is. 2114 00:48:07,906 --> 00:48:08,373 That our. 2115 00:48:08,373 --> 00:48:09,408 >> youth. 2116 00:48:09,408 --> 00:48:09,608 Don't have the same access 2117 00:48:09,608 --> 00:48:10,750 that. 2118 00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:11,900 >> I. 2119 00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:11,509 Had as a child. 2120 00:48:11,509 --> 00:48:12,577 Park and rec. 2121 00:48:12,577 --> 00:48:15,470 >> is where I live that. 2122 00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:16,115 Is very expensive to go. 2123 00:48:16,115 --> 00:48:16,616 >> you plan to going to. 2124 00:48:16,616 --> 00:48:18,184 East way you're. 2125 00:48:18,184 --> 00:48:18,784 Going you're paying to go to 2126 00:48:18,784 --> 00:48:19,618 sugarcreek, you're paying. 2127 00:48:19,618 --> 00:48:20,886 >> to go to take a key. 2128 00:48:20,886 --> 00:48:21,587 So and even. 2129 00:48:21,587 --> 00:48:23,587 >> at that. 2130 00:48:23,622 --> 00:48:24,423 Their business hours are 2131 00:48:24,423 --> 00:48:26,250 daytime business hours. 2132 00:48:26,250 --> 00:48:27,693 >> so understanding what. 2133 00:48:27,693 --> 00:48:28,600 Actual events do we have a 2134 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,461 young. 2135 00:48:29,461 --> 00:48:31,461 People that are. 2136 00:48:31,964 --> 00:48:33,533 9:00 will be. 2137 00:48:33,533 --> 00:48:35,401 Helpful even if. 2138 00:48:35,401 --> 00:48:36,350 It's a ymca. 2139 00:48:36,350 --> 00:48:37,570 Used to. 2140 00:48:37,570 --> 00:48:39,472 >> be 6 to 11. 2141 00:48:39,472 --> 00:48:41,700 And it was very targeted. 2142 00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:42,408 So having a update on. 2143 00:48:42,408 --> 00:48:44,310 The level. 2144 00:48:44,310 --> 00:48:44,477 >> up program that restore you 2145 00:48:44,477 --> 00:48:45,578 did. 2146 00:48:45,578 --> 00:48:46,979 Mention a. 2147 00:48:46,979 --> 00:48:48,380 Partnership with the y. 2148 00:48:48,380 --> 00:48:48,881 It would also. 2149 00:48:48,881 --> 00:48:49,482 >> be. 2150 00:48:49,482 --> 00:48:51,482 Helpful to know. 2151 00:48:53,553 --> 00:48:54,487 in 2020 2022. 2152 00:48:54,487 --> 00:48:56,155 When did it stop? 2153 00:48:56,155 --> 00:48:57,560 When did the. 2154 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:57,523 >> programs that. 2155 00:48:57,523 --> 00:48:58,457 >> were. 2156 00:48:58,457 --> 00:49:00,260 Specifically created. 2157 00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:00,960 For outreach to young. 2158 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,610 People during. 2159 00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:03,462 Those evening hours? 2160 00:49:03,462 --> 00:49:05,831 When did that stop. 2161 00:49:05,831 --> 00:49:07,000 And to see if there's any data 2162 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,340 that correlates. 2163 00:49:08,340 --> 00:49:08,969 When we've. 2164 00:49:08,969 --> 00:49:10,700 Seen the uptick. 2165 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:11,370 Not to mention. 2166 00:49:11,370 --> 00:49:12,872 If you're capturing. 2167 00:49:12,872 --> 00:49:14,872 Information are these. 2168 00:49:14,908 --> 00:49:15,108 New children um, new residents 2169 00:49:15,108 --> 00:49:16,976 ? 2170 00:49:16,976 --> 00:49:18,545 Are they children. 2171 00:49:18,545 --> 00:49:20,113 Of current. 2172 00:49:20,113 --> 00:49:21,514 Community that lost access. 2173 00:49:21,514 --> 00:49:23,514 To a program? 2174 00:49:23,683 --> 00:49:24,510 I also want to know 2175 00:49:24,510 --> 00:49:26,510 specifically. 2176 00:49:26,854 --> 00:49:27,955 More detail with our. 2177 00:49:27,955 --> 00:49:28,589 Partnership with the county. 2178 00:49:28,589 --> 00:49:29,556 What exactly. 2179 00:49:29,556 --> 00:49:30,457 >> is park and rec doing. 2180 00:49:30,457 --> 00:49:31,858 >> to outreach? 2181 00:49:31,858 --> 00:49:32,459 Are they. 2182 00:49:32,459 --> 00:49:33,560 Opening up. 2183 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,427 Their services. 2184 00:49:34,427 --> 00:49:35,362 For no. 2185 00:49:35,362 --> 00:49:36,296 >> fee because um. 2186 00:49:36,296 --> 00:49:37,163 We pay a whole. 2187 00:49:37,163 --> 00:49:39,163 >> lot in texas. 2188 00:49:39,966 --> 00:49:41,702 Between city and county texas. 2189 00:49:41,702 --> 00:49:42,360 That pay for our parks and rec 2190 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,700 services. 2191 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:43,671 So it will. 2192 00:49:43,671 --> 00:49:43,971 >> be helpful. 2193 00:49:43,971 --> 00:49:44,371 >> to. 2194 00:49:44,371 --> 00:49:44,905 Have a better. 2195 00:49:44,905 --> 00:49:46,507 Understanding of what. 2196 00:49:46,507 --> 00:49:47,107 Access to. 2197 00:49:47,107 --> 00:49:47,674 >> our young. 2198 00:49:47,674 --> 00:49:48,742 >> people here. 2199 00:49:48,742 --> 00:49:50,477 Because a lot. 2200 00:49:50,477 --> 00:49:50,978 Of us involvement has been here 2201 00:49:50,978 --> 00:49:52,112 long enough. 2202 00:49:52,112 --> 00:49:53,480 You grew up playing basketball. 2203 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:53,814 You grew up playing soccer. 2204 00:49:53,814 --> 00:49:54,781 >> you. 2205 00:49:54,781 --> 00:49:55,281 Grew up playing a lot of these. 2206 00:49:55,281 --> 00:49:56,216 Things because you. 2207 00:49:56,216 --> 00:49:57,250 Had access to it. 2208 00:49:57,250 --> 00:49:57,851 That's one of the. 2209 00:49:57,851 --> 00:49:58,619 Challenges that. 2210 00:49:58,619 --> 00:50:00,619 We're seeing. 2211 00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:02,523 But mainly. 2212 00:50:02,523 --> 00:50:02,990 I would. 2213 00:50:02,990 --> 00:50:04,425 Repeat the. 2214 00:50:04,425 --> 00:50:05,493 What current after. 2215 00:50:05,493 --> 00:50:06,594 9 P.M. Meeting. 2216 00:50:06,594 --> 00:50:07,394 Places have. 2217 00:50:07,394 --> 00:50:08,929 Been created. 2218 00:50:08,929 --> 00:50:10,497 Specifically for youth. 2219 00:50:10,497 --> 00:50:11,765 And lastly. 2220 00:50:11,765 --> 00:50:13,467 We put a lot. 2221 00:50:13,467 --> 00:50:13,967 Of energy and time in. 2222 00:50:13,967 --> 00:50:14,568 >> our. 2223 00:50:14,568 --> 00:50:15,202 Relationship with the. 2224 00:50:15,202 --> 00:50:15,802 National league of. 2225 00:50:15,802 --> 00:50:17,372 >> cities and our. 2226 00:50:17,372 --> 00:50:18,306 Membership. 2227 00:50:18,306 --> 00:50:18,506 National league of cities has 2228 00:50:18,506 --> 00:50:18,973 seven. 2229 00:50:18,973 --> 00:50:20,708 Strategies for. 2230 00:50:20,708 --> 00:50:21,108 >> cities to increase 2231 00:50:21,108 --> 00:50:21,976 meaningful youth. 2232 00:50:21,976 --> 00:50:23,544 Engagement for violence. 2233 00:50:23,544 --> 00:50:25,544 Reduction has our. 2234 00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:27,140 Team chief I'm not even sure if 2235 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:27,948 you're aware. 2236 00:50:27,948 --> 00:50:28,882 Of the relationship. 2237 00:50:28,882 --> 00:50:29,850 >> that we have with the 2238 00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:30,170 national league of cities, but 2239 00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:31,952 . 2240 00:50:31,952 --> 00:50:33,200 That membership. 2241 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,200 They are. 2242 00:50:35,230 --> 00:50:36,124 Studies that have. 2243 00:50:36,124 --> 00:50:38,326 Already been created with. 2244 00:50:38,326 --> 00:50:39,594 Experts around the nation that 2245 00:50:39,594 --> 00:50:40,995 looks at the top seven. 2246 00:50:40,995 --> 00:50:42,995 Strategies for cities. 2247 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:43,664 Senator voices and experience. 2248 00:50:43,664 --> 00:50:43,965 >> of young. 2249 00:50:43,965 --> 00:50:45,700 People most. 2250 00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:46,330 Directly impacted by the 2251 00:50:46,330 --> 00:50:47,435 balance. 2252 00:50:47,435 --> 00:50:47,835 Include youth. 2253 00:50:47,835 --> 00:50:49,700 And the. 2254 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:50,972 >> creation of the events. 2255 00:50:50,972 --> 00:50:52,400 Establish advisory boards. 2256 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,475 Invite youth. 2257 00:50:53,475 --> 00:50:55,475 Into existing meetings. 2258 00:50:55,810 --> 00:50:56,440 Diversify the communication 2259 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,780 outlets. 2260 00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:58,646 Connect young. 2261 00:50:58,646 --> 00:51:00,810 People with their professional 2262 00:51:00,810 --> 00:51:00,281 goals and opportunities to 2263 00:51:00,281 --> 00:51:01,516 grow. 2264 00:51:01,516 --> 00:51:03,516 Integrate youth. 2265 00:51:03,551 --> 00:51:04,952 As facilitators and. 2266 00:51:04,952 --> 00:51:06,520 Participants into. 2267 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,520 Existing programs. 2268 00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:12,270 There are models out there we 2269 00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:13,595 already have this membership. 2270 00:51:13,595 --> 00:51:14,529 So we're not spending money. 2271 00:51:14,529 --> 00:51:16,529 On a study. 2272 00:51:17,499 --> 00:51:19,670 It would be helpful. 2273 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:21,690 To get that information. 2274 00:51:21,690 --> 00:51:22,137 Back and I'm not going to try 2275 00:51:22,137 --> 00:51:22,337 to get you to answer all of it 2276 00:51:22,337 --> 00:51:22,603 right. 2277 00:51:22,603 --> 00:51:23,571 Now chief. 2278 00:51:23,571 --> 00:51:24,539 >> because my colleagues also 2279 00:51:24,539 --> 00:51:25,673 have questions but those are 2280 00:51:25,673 --> 00:51:26,800 the things that will be helpful 2281 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,409 for me. 2282 00:51:27,409 --> 00:51:27,876 Yes thank you mayor. 2283 00:51:27,876 --> 00:51:28,510 Thank you. 2284 00:51:28,510 --> 00:51:30,510 Council member mayfield. 2285 00:51:31,130 --> 00:51:33,130 Executive council member. 2286 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,417 Thank you mayor and. 2287 00:51:35,417 --> 00:51:36,485 Thank you chief patterson. 2288 00:51:36,485 --> 00:51:37,252 >> you and I have spoken. 2289 00:51:37,252 --> 00:51:38,530 >> and I won't. 2290 00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:38,520 Belabor the issue. 2291 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,540 Um. 2292 00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:39,454 For me. 2293 00:51:39,454 --> 00:51:40,210 >> to. 2294 00:51:40,210 --> 00:51:40,922 Vote in favor of. 2295 00:51:40,922 --> 00:51:41,690 This, I'll be candid. 2296 00:51:41,690 --> 00:51:42,190 I really would. 2297 00:51:42,190 --> 00:51:42,757 Need to. 2298 00:51:42,757 --> 00:51:43,492 Have a lot. 2299 00:51:43,492 --> 00:51:43,993 More comfort. 2300 00:51:43,993 --> 00:51:44,360 With respect. 2301 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:44,627 >> to. 2302 00:51:44,627 --> 00:51:45,227 What. 2303 00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:47,960 Happens to parents. 2304 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:47,563 We've heard, um, from. 2305 00:51:47,563 --> 00:51:48,264 A few. 2306 00:51:48,264 --> 00:51:49,331 >> parents over the. 2307 00:51:49,331 --> 00:51:50,650 Course of the last few. 2308 00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:50,532 Weeks with. 2309 00:51:50,532 --> 00:51:52,340 Respect to. 2310 00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:52,401 >> job consequences. 2311 00:51:52,401 --> 00:51:52,968 >> and. 2312 00:51:52,968 --> 00:51:53,902 Other consequences. 2313 00:51:53,902 --> 00:51:54,970 >> that are brought to. 2314 00:51:54,970 --> 00:51:55,270 Roost with them. 2315 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:57,239 And I'm. 2316 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:57,706 >> just asking perhaps attorney 2317 00:51:57,706 --> 00:51:58,306 battle if you. 2318 00:51:58,306 --> 00:52:00,800 >> can help me. 2319 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,800 Pass the language. 2320 00:52:02,211 --> 00:52:02,545 Here that has the parent 2321 00:52:02,545 --> 00:52:03,679 responsible. 2322 00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:04,914 If knowingly. 2323 00:52:04,914 --> 00:52:06,914 Permitting a child. 2324 00:52:07,550 --> 00:52:09,418 >> to be out and how that. 2325 00:52:09,418 --> 00:52:10,586 Jibes with the exception that. 2326 00:52:10,586 --> 00:52:10,920 >> says if a child is running. 2327 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,220 >> an. 2328 00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:12,488 Errand at. 2329 00:52:12,488 --> 00:52:13,555 >> the parents direction. 2330 00:52:13,555 --> 00:52:14,657 That seems to be. 2331 00:52:14,657 --> 00:52:15,457 Um in. 2332 00:52:15,457 --> 00:52:16,126 >> conflict to. 2333 00:52:16,126 --> 00:52:16,525 >> a degree. 2334 00:52:16,525 --> 00:52:17,693 That feels. 2335 00:52:17,693 --> 00:52:18,828 Unworkable for me. 2336 00:52:18,828 --> 00:52:19,280 Can you help me understand 2337 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,963 that? 2338 00:52:20,963 --> 00:52:21,664 Yes, yes. 2339 00:52:21,664 --> 00:52:22,980 >> thank you. 2340 00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:22,999 Council member. 2341 00:52:22,999 --> 00:52:23,933 >> owens. 2342 00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:25,501 >> um. 2343 00:52:25,501 --> 00:52:27,203 >> I believe that those. 2344 00:52:27,203 --> 00:52:27,670 Two areas of the. 2345 00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:28,471 Law still. 2346 00:52:28,471 --> 00:52:29,710 Intersect in a. 2347 00:52:29,710 --> 00:52:30,172 Positive way. 2348 00:52:30,172 --> 00:52:31,440 If a parent. 2349 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,975 Knowingly allows. 2350 00:52:32,975 --> 00:52:34,543 Their minor child. 2351 00:52:34,543 --> 00:52:35,177 >> to be out in a. 2352 00:52:35,177 --> 00:52:36,880 Way that is. 2353 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,800 Not an exception to the curfew 2354 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,948 . 2355 00:52:38,948 --> 00:52:39,149 Then the parent would be liable 2356 00:52:39,149 --> 00:52:39,549 . 2357 00:52:39,549 --> 00:52:40,483 Under the. 2358 00:52:40,483 --> 00:52:42,510 >> curfew law for. 2359 00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:42,519 Their child being out. 2360 00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:43,453 However. 2361 00:52:43,453 --> 00:52:44,854 >> running an. 2362 00:52:44,854 --> 00:52:47,223 Errand is an exception so if 2363 00:52:47,223 --> 00:52:48,825 the parent were to be knowingly 2364 00:52:48,825 --> 00:52:49,158 aware that their juvenile was 2365 00:52:49,158 --> 00:52:49,959 out. 2366 00:52:49,959 --> 00:52:50,493 Under one of. 2367 00:52:50,493 --> 00:52:51,727 >> the. 2368 00:52:51,727 --> 00:52:53,830 Exceptions whether it would. 2369 00:52:53,830 --> 00:52:55,899 Be an errand or going to or 2370 00:52:55,899 --> 00:52:57,330 from work or out with someone 2371 00:52:57,330 --> 00:52:57,667 who's 21 or older. 2372 00:52:57,667 --> 00:52:58,301 Than they. 2373 00:52:58,301 --> 00:52:59,102 >> would be. 2374 00:52:59,102 --> 00:52:59,269 Subject to an exception and 2375 00:52:59,269 --> 00:53:00,537 the. 2376 00:53:00,537 --> 00:53:02,472 Juvenile nor the. 2377 00:53:02,472 --> 00:53:02,872 Parent would be responsible. 2378 00:53:02,872 --> 00:53:03,806 >> and so. 2379 00:53:03,806 --> 00:53:05,208 >> the only time that the ju. 2380 00:53:05,208 --> 00:53:07,477 The juvenile's parent or 2381 00:53:07,477 --> 00:53:07,944 guardian would be responsible 2382 00:53:07,944 --> 00:53:09,944 under the. 2383 00:53:09,946 --> 00:53:10,380 Excuse me under. 2384 00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:10,981 >> the. 2385 00:53:10,981 --> 00:53:12,216 Ordinance would. 2386 00:53:12,216 --> 00:53:13,984 Be if the juvenile were to. 2387 00:53:13,984 --> 00:53:15,752 Be out in violation. 2388 00:53:15,752 --> 00:53:16,553 >> of the curfew meaning their 2389 00:53:16,553 --> 00:53:17,621 actions are not subject. 2390 00:53:17,621 --> 00:53:18,522 >> to any exception. 2391 00:53:18,522 --> 00:53:20,157 If the. 2392 00:53:20,157 --> 00:53:21,558 Juvenile was out under one of. 2393 00:53:21,558 --> 00:53:23,260 The exceptions again with. 2394 00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:24,394 A 21 year old or with their 2395 00:53:24,394 --> 00:53:25,528 parent running an errand out 2396 00:53:25,528 --> 00:53:26,463 for an emergency or a. 2397 00:53:26,463 --> 00:53:27,970 School event. 2398 00:53:27,970 --> 00:53:28,432 If the. 2399 00:53:28,432 --> 00:53:28,599 >> juvenile has an exception 2400 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:29,533 to. 2401 00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:30,467 be out, then that. 2402 00:53:30,467 --> 00:53:32,202 Exception extends. 2403 00:53:32,202 --> 00:53:33,937 >> to the parent and the parent 2404 00:53:33,937 --> 00:53:34,571 would not be held. 2405 00:53:34,571 --> 00:53:35,507 Responsible and. 2406 00:53:35,507 --> 00:53:37,740 Charged with a. 2407 00:53:37,740 --> 00:53:38,800 Violation under the. 2408 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,576 Ordinance is. 2409 00:53:39,576 --> 00:53:40,977 When a parent knows that their. 2410 00:53:40,977 --> 00:53:42,679 Child is out at a teen. 2411 00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:43,513 Takeover for example when the 2412 00:53:43,513 --> 00:53:44,140 parent would be. 2413 00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:45,382 Responsible. 2414 00:53:45,382 --> 00:53:47,382 >> with. 2415 00:53:47,585 --> 00:53:48,819 Could I have one follow up? 2416 00:53:48,819 --> 00:53:49,200 So just a brief follow up and 2417 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,254 again. 2418 00:53:50,254 --> 00:53:51,822 >> we can we can talk. 2419 00:53:51,822 --> 00:53:52,220 Offline and perhaps you know 2420 00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:52,389 when. 2421 00:53:52,389 --> 00:53:52,756 >> we. 2422 00:53:52,756 --> 00:53:52,990 Bring this. 2423 00:53:52,990 --> 00:53:53,657 Back up. 2424 00:53:53,657 --> 00:53:53,957 >> you can give me some 2425 00:53:53,957 --> 00:53:54,191 additional. 2426 00:53:54,191 --> 00:53:55,959 Comfort. 2427 00:53:55,959 --> 00:53:56,493 >> what support. 2428 00:53:56,493 --> 00:53:57,194 >> attorney. 2429 00:53:57,194 --> 00:53:59,620 Battle do we have. 2430 00:53:59,620 --> 00:53:59,329 For families. 2431 00:53:59,329 --> 00:53:59,997 Who are. 2432 00:53:59,997 --> 00:54:01,732 >> having an. 2433 00:54:01,732 --> 00:54:04,268 >> issue with a teen who they 2434 00:54:04,268 --> 00:54:04,602 are unable to enforce 2435 00:54:04,602 --> 00:54:05,336 restrictions. 2436 00:54:05,336 --> 00:54:06,704 >> on in a meaningful. 2437 00:54:06,704 --> 00:54:07,638 Way either because of their. 2438 00:54:07,638 --> 00:54:09,140 Job schedule or. 2439 00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:10,740 Because the child is just. 2440 00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:11,475 >> quite honestly unruly. 2441 00:54:11,475 --> 00:54:12,576 If someone. 2442 00:54:12,576 --> 00:54:13,511 Comes to. 2443 00:54:13,511 --> 00:54:14,440 The court, what. 2444 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,120 Is it. 2445 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,613 >> that they're asking for? 2446 00:54:15,613 --> 00:54:16,947 >> what support. 2447 00:54:16,947 --> 00:54:18,820 >> are we able to give as a 2448 00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:18,849 community to prevent them. 2449 00:54:18,849 --> 00:54:19,483 From having. 2450 00:54:19,483 --> 00:54:21,483 >> an issue? 2451 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:22,120 i think the first level of. 2452 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,688 Support starts. 2453 00:54:23,688 --> 00:54:24,823 Before a juvenile where to be 2454 00:54:24,823 --> 00:54:25,990 charged and that would be 2455 00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:27,525 offering parents the resources. 2456 00:54:27,525 --> 00:54:29,925 Of juveniles being involved. 2457 00:54:29,994 --> 00:54:32,196 In powell um mayor's. 2458 00:54:32,196 --> 00:54:32,830 Youth enrichment program reach 2459 00:54:32,830 --> 00:54:33,931 program, all of those. 2460 00:54:33,931 --> 00:54:35,320 Sorts of things. 2461 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:35,299 I think once we. 2462 00:54:35,299 --> 00:54:36,667 Have a. 2463 00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:37,602 >> juvenile who. 2464 00:54:37,602 --> 00:54:38,102 Is not listening. 2465 00:54:38,102 --> 00:54:39,804 To their. 2466 00:54:39,804 --> 00:54:41,539 Parents um juvenile court 2467 00:54:41,539 --> 00:54:42,600 happens in a couple of. 2468 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,908 Different ways. 2469 00:54:43,908 --> 00:54:44,376 Some children are abused. 2470 00:54:44,376 --> 00:54:46,244 >> and. 2471 00:54:46,244 --> 00:54:46,578 Neglected, others are 2472 00:54:46,578 --> 00:54:47,512 undisciplined. 2473 00:54:47,512 --> 00:54:49,512 Others are. 2474 00:54:49,547 --> 00:54:50,481 Delinquent as in criminal. 2475 00:54:50,481 --> 00:54:51,115 If a. 2476 00:54:51,115 --> 00:54:51,883 Juvenile were to. 2477 00:54:51,883 --> 00:54:53,851 Be what we would. 2478 00:54:53,851 --> 00:54:54,986 Legally call undisciplined as 2479 00:54:54,986 --> 00:54:55,788 in they are skipping school, 2480 00:54:55,788 --> 00:54:56,421 they are not listening to. 2481 00:54:56,421 --> 00:54:57,523 Their parent. 2482 00:54:57,523 --> 00:54:58,590 A juvenile's. 2483 00:54:58,590 --> 00:54:59,570 Parent certainly could. 2484 00:54:59,570 --> 00:55:00,325 Contact the. 2485 00:55:00,325 --> 00:55:00,659 >> department of social 2486 00:55:00,659 --> 00:55:02,659 services. 2487 00:55:02,861 --> 00:55:03,280 To assist in getting resources 2488 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,280 . 2489 00:55:05,230 --> 00:55:05,563 And having monitoring on that 2490 00:55:05,563 --> 00:55:06,264 situation. 2491 00:55:06,264 --> 00:55:08,133 That is not a. 2492 00:55:08,133 --> 00:55:10,201 Situation where automatically a 2493 00:55:10,201 --> 00:55:10,568 parent's custody rights are at 2494 00:55:10,568 --> 00:55:10,869 stake. 2495 00:55:10,869 --> 00:55:11,202 It is a. 2496 00:55:11,202 --> 00:55:12,270 >> way. 2497 00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:13,872 A parent can tell the court 2498 00:55:13,872 --> 00:55:16,408 system my child was charged 2499 00:55:16,408 --> 00:55:16,675 with a youth ordinance 2500 00:55:16,675 --> 00:55:18,443 violation. 2501 00:55:18,443 --> 00:55:19,545 my child is undisciplined. 2502 00:55:19,545 --> 00:55:20,812 They were out. 2503 00:55:20,812 --> 00:55:22,414 I was trying to keep them in 2504 00:55:22,414 --> 00:55:22,781 the home and they were not out. 2505 00:55:22,781 --> 00:55:23,181 And so. 2506 00:55:23,181 --> 00:55:24,750 The judge. 2507 00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:25,830 And the department of social 2508 00:55:25,830 --> 00:55:27,830 services. 2509 00:55:27,752 --> 00:55:28,553 And the department of juvenile 2510 00:55:28,553 --> 00:55:29,955 justice can. 2511 00:55:29,955 --> 00:55:30,656 Offer resources once. 2512 00:55:30,656 --> 00:55:32,858 We get to a. 2513 00:55:32,858 --> 00:55:33,590 Situation where we use the 2514 00:55:33,590 --> 00:55:33,659 legal. 2515 00:55:33,659 --> 00:55:34,460 Definition of a. 2516 00:55:34,460 --> 00:55:36,328 Child being. 2517 00:55:36,328 --> 00:55:36,962 Undisciplined and they refuse 2518 00:55:36,962 --> 00:55:38,962 to follow. 2519 00:55:39,165 --> 00:55:40,899 Curfew despite their parent's 2520 00:55:40,899 --> 00:55:41,400 best efforts. 2521 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,000 >> okay. 2522 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,935 Thank you. 2523 00:55:42,935 --> 00:55:44,203 Just briefly if you'll follow. 2524 00:55:44,203 --> 00:55:45,700 Up again on whether that does. 2525 00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:45,771 Prompt the. 2526 00:55:45,771 --> 00:55:46,838 >> opening of a. 2527 00:55:46,838 --> 00:55:48,107 Neglect case, I've. 2528 00:55:48,107 --> 00:55:49,410 >> been told that it does. 2529 00:55:49,410 --> 00:55:49,509 And that gives me pause. 2530 00:55:49,509 --> 00:55:51,509 Thank you. 2531 00:55:51,878 --> 00:55:53,878 ,councilmember owens. 2532 00:55:53,913 --> 00:55:55,348 >> if I can I can just address 2533 00:55:55,348 --> 00:55:55,981 that as well because I had the 2534 00:55:55,981 --> 00:55:57,750 conversation this morning with 2535 00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:58,551 our district attorney um, 2536 00:55:58,551 --> 00:56:00,951 similar to that matter. 2537 00:56:01,220 --> 00:56:01,553 Um, they do have diversion 2538 00:56:01,553 --> 00:56:02,955 programs. 2539 00:56:02,955 --> 00:56:05,190 We are not trying to get in a 2540 00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:07,227 habit of where a parent or a 2541 00:56:07,227 --> 00:56:09,929 teen is in the criminal justice 2542 00:56:09,929 --> 00:56:11,197 system um per se, so they do 2543 00:56:11,197 --> 00:56:12,498 the district attorney's office 2544 00:56:12,498 --> 00:56:13,900 to do diversion. 2545 00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:14,801 They do classes where the 2546 00:56:14,801 --> 00:56:16,536 parent has to do a parenting 2547 00:56:16,536 --> 00:56:16,869 class so that the charge is. 2548 00:56:16,869 --> 00:56:17,637 That it. 2549 00:56:17,637 --> 00:56:19,805 >> isn't on the record. 2550 00:56:19,805 --> 00:56:20,906 Essentially. 2551 00:56:20,906 --> 00:56:21,440 and likewise council. 2552 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:22,700 >> member. 2553 00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:23,109 Owens I think. 2554 00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:24,440 It's a situation where. 2555 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:24,578 In general a. 2556 00:56:24,578 --> 00:56:25,411 Lot of. 2557 00:56:25,411 --> 00:56:25,912 >> curfew violations. 2558 00:56:25,912 --> 00:56:26,246 >> I could. 2559 00:56:26,246 --> 00:56:27,647 >> see. 2560 00:56:27,647 --> 00:56:29,647 Being diverted especially. 2561 00:56:29,649 --> 00:56:30,483 If it is a first time offender 2562 00:56:30,483 --> 00:56:30,884 versus a child. 2563 00:56:30,884 --> 00:56:31,518 Who has. 2564 00:56:31,518 --> 00:56:32,585 Other pending. 2565 00:56:32,585 --> 00:56:33,520 Criminal matters or. 2566 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:33,987 Is a. 2567 00:56:33,987 --> 00:56:34,921 >> repeat curfew. 2568 00:56:34,921 --> 00:56:35,555 Violation or. 2569 00:56:35,555 --> 00:56:36,956 Excuse me. 2570 00:56:36,956 --> 00:56:37,890 >> a repeat curfew violator. 2571 00:56:37,890 --> 00:56:38,524 But once. 2572 00:56:38,524 --> 00:56:38,991 >> at the. 2573 00:56:38,991 --> 00:56:40,561 Courthouse the. 2574 00:56:40,561 --> 00:56:41,280 >> department of juvenile. 2575 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:41,495 Justice as. 2576 00:56:41,495 --> 00:56:43,495 >> in. 2577 00:56:43,530 --> 00:56:45,399 Deja will take a holistic. 2578 00:56:45,399 --> 00:56:45,599 Look at a child who is charged 2579 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:45,932 . 2580 00:56:45,932 --> 00:56:46,132 >> with. 2581 00:56:46,132 --> 00:56:46,600 A. 2582 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,534 Juvenile offense. 2583 00:56:47,534 --> 00:56:49,436 And if. 2584 00:56:49,436 --> 00:56:50,537 There were to be factual. 2585 00:56:50,537 --> 00:56:51,538 Circumstances that. 2586 00:56:51,538 --> 00:56:51,971 >> led to a neglect. 2587 00:56:51,971 --> 00:56:53,730 Case that. 2588 00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:53,573 Could happen. 2589 00:56:53,573 --> 00:56:55,275 But that. 2590 00:56:55,275 --> 00:56:56,750 >> is not automatic under the 2591 00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:57,510 law for a curfew. 2592 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:58,579 Violation it will be facts. 2593 00:56:58,579 --> 00:56:59,246 >> and circumstances. 2594 00:56:59,246 --> 00:57:00,947 Within the knowledge. 2595 00:57:00,947 --> 00:57:02,482 Of the court or dj. 2596 00:57:02,482 --> 00:57:02,983 That could turn into an. 2597 00:57:02,983 --> 00:57:04,840 Abuse, neglect. 2598 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,419 Or dependency. 2599 00:57:05,419 --> 00:57:07,721 Case but it would not. 2600 00:57:07,721 --> 00:57:09,220 Stem from the charge itself 2601 00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:11,422 directly or not automatically. 2602 00:57:12,125 --> 00:57:13,930 Thank you council member owens 2603 00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:14,661 council member male. 2604 00:57:14,661 --> 00:57:15,596 Thank you. 2605 00:57:15,596 --> 00:57:16,300 Um I. 2606 00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:17,970 >> had. 2607 00:57:17,970 --> 00:57:17,565 A quick question. 2608 00:57:17,565 --> 00:57:19,433 >> can. 2609 00:57:19,433 --> 00:57:20,868 Staff show us like a map maybe 2610 00:57:20,868 --> 00:57:22,769 at a later time of where the 2611 00:57:22,769 --> 00:57:24,371 youth opportunities actually 2612 00:57:24,371 --> 00:57:24,705 exist and where you have these 2613 00:57:24,705 --> 00:57:25,380 partnerships? 2614 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:26,740 Uh. 2615 00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:28,175 >> my concern is that there's a 2616 00:57:28,175 --> 00:57:28,642 gap in that um. 2617 00:57:28,642 --> 00:57:30,377 Particularly when. 2618 00:57:30,377 --> 00:57:30,711 >> we're talking about steele 2619 00:57:30,711 --> 00:57:32,711 creek. 2620 00:57:32,913 --> 00:57:35,283 Nations ford is it a continuous 2621 00:57:35,283 --> 00:57:36,830 conversation with our county 2622 00:57:36,830 --> 00:57:36,717 commissioners, the fact that. 2623 00:57:36,717 --> 00:57:38,717 There is a. 2624 00:57:41,388 --> 00:57:41,889 Lack of um, recreation centers 2625 00:57:41,889 --> 00:57:43,157 or place for. 2626 00:57:43,157 --> 00:57:45,157 Kids to go. 2627 00:57:45,492 --> 00:57:46,593 And then it exacerbates. 2628 00:57:46,593 --> 00:57:46,894 These kind of issues. 2629 00:57:46,894 --> 00:57:47,561 Um. 2630 00:57:47,561 --> 00:57:47,928 >> so I'm. 2631 00:57:47,928 --> 00:57:48,395 >> just. 2632 00:57:48,395 --> 00:57:49,796 Curious based. 2633 00:57:49,796 --> 00:57:52,333 >> on the programing that you 2634 00:57:52,333 --> 00:57:54,402 all are already doing, how 2635 00:57:54,402 --> 00:57:55,369 equitable is that and is are we 2636 00:57:55,369 --> 00:57:56,537 really thinking through the 2637 00:57:56,537 --> 00:57:58,339 needs of our community? 2638 00:57:58,339 --> 00:57:59,607 So looking forward to seeing. 2639 00:57:59,607 --> 00:58:00,740 That on the map. 2640 00:58:00,740 --> 00:58:01,475 To see. 2641 00:58:01,475 --> 00:58:03,210 Where is it occurring. 2642 00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:03,411 And I'm hoping that we're 2643 00:58:03,411 --> 00:58:05,411 using. 2644 00:58:05,579 --> 00:58:07,181 Data to think where should it 2645 00:58:07,181 --> 00:58:07,348 occur in the future and how 2646 00:58:07,348 --> 00:58:08,850 can. 2647 00:58:08,850 --> 00:58:10,285 >> we bring all our various 2648 00:58:10,285 --> 00:58:10,651 partners, particularly our 2649 00:58:10,651 --> 00:58:12,120 county partners. 2650 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:12,720 Who need. 2651 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,720 >> to bring. 2652 00:58:15,223 --> 00:58:15,556 Additional resources like 2653 00:58:15,556 --> 00:58:17,125 recreation. 2654 00:58:17,125 --> 00:58:17,926 Centers to. 2655 00:58:17,926 --> 00:58:18,259 Steele creek and nations 2656 00:58:18,259 --> 00:58:19,661 forward? 2657 00:58:19,661 --> 00:58:20,595 Thank you. 2658 00:58:20,595 --> 00:58:21,996 >> thank you. 2659 00:58:21,996 --> 00:58:23,970 Council member mayo. 2660 00:58:23,970 --> 00:58:24,498 Council member. 2661 00:58:24,498 --> 00:58:25,600 Driggs thank. 2662 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,200 >> you, MR. Mayor. 2663 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:28,270 So I. 2664 00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:29,204 >> believe this is a very. 2665 00:58:29,204 --> 00:58:30,605 Serious issue. 2666 00:58:30,605 --> 00:58:32,807 It's part of what. 2667 00:58:32,807 --> 00:58:33,141 I consider to be a troubling 2668 00:58:33,141 --> 00:58:33,608 breakdown. 2669 00:58:33,608 --> 00:58:35,608 In in. 2670 00:58:35,643 --> 00:58:36,745 Civil conduct noisy cars. 2671 00:58:36,745 --> 00:58:37,345 Road racing. 2672 00:58:37,345 --> 00:58:38,279 Uh. 2673 00:58:38,279 --> 00:58:40,140 ,retail theft. 2674 00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:40,648 So we have to fight back. 2675 00:58:40,648 --> 00:58:42,490 I get. 2676 00:58:42,490 --> 00:58:43,919 >> that I appreciate what. 2677 00:58:43,919 --> 00:58:44,153 Cmpd is doing and intend to 2678 00:58:44,153 --> 00:58:45,520 support. 2679 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,788 What you're doing. 2680 00:58:46,788 --> 00:58:48,230 Uh, I will. 2681 00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:48,257 Just point out I have a 2682 00:58:48,257 --> 00:58:50,580 concern. 2683 00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:51,160 Somewhat along the lines, uh. 2684 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,930 Of, uh. 2685 00:58:52,930 --> 00:58:54,930 Council member. 2686 00:58:54,128 --> 00:58:55,230 Owens in that, uh, I would. 2687 00:58:55,230 --> 00:58:55,730 Estimate that of. 2688 00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:56,531 The population. 2689 00:58:56,531 --> 00:58:58,531 Of charlotte. 2690 00:58:58,666 --> 00:58:59,767 About 200,000. 2691 00:58:59,767 --> 00:59:01,300 Are below the age. 2692 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:01,704 Of 1817. 2693 00:59:01,704 --> 00:59:02,504 >> and under. 2694 00:59:02,504 --> 00:59:04,206 Uh. 2695 00:59:04,206 --> 00:59:05,607 >> about 60,000 round. 2696 00:59:05,607 --> 00:59:07,509 Numbers are. 2697 00:59:07,509 --> 00:59:07,976 Uh in the 13. 2698 00:59:07,976 --> 00:59:08,377 >> to. 2699 00:59:08,377 --> 00:59:09,745 17 bracket. 2700 00:59:09,745 --> 00:59:10,679 And how many of those. 2701 00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:12,679 >> are actually offenders? 2702 00:59:12,814 --> 00:59:13,148 How many of them are actually 2703 00:59:13,148 --> 00:59:14,716 causing this. 2704 00:59:14,716 --> 00:59:15,550 Problem and how many others 2705 00:59:15,550 --> 00:59:15,984 will be limited. 2706 00:59:15,984 --> 00:59:17,385 >> in. 2707 00:59:17,385 --> 00:59:18,530 Their freedom because we have 2708 00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:18,454 to address. 2709 00:59:18,454 --> 00:59:19,880 >> this. 2710 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,956 Issue and. 2711 00:59:20,956 --> 00:59:21,457 In particular I would highlight 2712 00:59:21,457 --> 00:59:21,957 the fact. 2713 00:59:21,957 --> 00:59:22,224 >> that. 2714 00:59:22,224 --> 00:59:22,691 I think. 2715 00:59:22,691 --> 00:59:23,792 >> the. 2716 00:59:23,792 --> 00:59:25,227 Offenders are the ones who are 2717 00:59:25,227 --> 00:59:25,561 least likely to obey their 2718 00:59:25,561 --> 00:59:26,962 parents. 2719 00:59:26,962 --> 00:59:28,530 Uh and. 2720 00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:29,310 So you have. 2721 00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:30,399 >> this. 2722 00:59:30,399 --> 00:59:30,666 Strange situation where we're 2723 00:59:30,666 --> 00:59:32,000 cracking. 2724 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,568 Down and. 2725 00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:33,168 >> the. 2726 00:59:33,168 --> 00:59:34,136 Problem exists. 2727 00:59:34,136 --> 00:59:34,736 Precisely with. 2728 00:59:34,736 --> 00:59:35,304 >> the people. 2729 00:59:35,304 --> 00:59:35,905 >> that won't. 2730 00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:36,539 Uh, listen to. 2731 00:59:36,539 --> 00:59:38,539 Their parents. 2732 00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:41,377 And then you have this, um. 2733 00:59:41,377 --> 00:59:42,440 Recourse to the parents in 2734 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:43,612 which they are. 2735 00:59:43,612 --> 00:59:44,800 Exposed to penalties. 2736 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:44,780 So I. 2737 00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:45,548 >> guess my. 2738 00:59:45,548 --> 00:59:47,548 Question would. 2739 00:59:47,583 --> 00:59:49,618 >> just be will parents have a. 2740 00:59:49,618 --> 00:59:50,553 Defense against liability for. 2741 00:59:50,553 --> 00:59:51,653 >> these fines because. 2742 00:59:51,653 --> 00:59:53,223 They are in a. 2743 00:59:53,223 --> 00:59:53,723 Situation where their child is 2744 00:59:53,723 --> 00:59:55,723 out of control? 2745 00:59:55,759 --> 00:59:57,460 But dc. 2746 00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:57,727 Thank you sir for that 2747 00:59:57,727 --> 00:59:59,727 question. 2748 01:00:00,463 --> 01:00:01,764 So I will say oftentimes and 2749 01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:02,865 and this is practical 2750 01:00:02,865 --> 01:00:03,532 application I've seen it I've 2751 01:00:03,532 --> 01:00:05,568 been a part of it. 2752 01:00:05,568 --> 01:00:07,303 Um if we pick up your juvenile 2753 01:00:07,303 --> 01:00:08,137 after curfew obviously we make 2754 01:00:08,137 --> 01:00:10,137 the phone call. 2755 01:00:10,474 --> 01:00:12,750 We have had multiple incidents 2756 01:00:12,750 --> 01:00:12,676 where a parent has said hey. 2757 01:00:12,676 --> 01:00:14,244 You know. 2758 01:00:14,244 --> 01:00:14,711 As chief uh, that. 2759 01:00:14,711 --> 01:00:15,645 Um MISS. 2760 01:00:15,645 --> 01:00:16,612 Battle said my. 2761 01:00:16,612 --> 01:00:18,612 >> child is undisciplined. 2762 01:00:19,282 --> 01:00:20,550 I've reported him missing 14 2763 01:00:20,550 --> 01:00:21,651 times in two months. 2764 01:00:21,651 --> 01:00:22,752 They won't go to school. 2765 01:00:22,752 --> 01:00:24,153 >> they won't listen to me. 2766 01:00:24,153 --> 01:00:24,420 You guys bring them home and 2767 01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:26,550 they walk. 2768 01:00:26,550 --> 01:00:26,389 >> right out the back door, 2769 01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:28,291 right? 2770 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:29,860 We're not giving that parent a 2771 01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:30,394 citation because those are 2772 01:00:30,394 --> 01:00:31,194 conversations that they're 2773 01:00:31,194 --> 01:00:31,528 having with the. 2774 01:00:31,528 --> 01:00:33,528 Supervisors. 2775 01:00:33,830 --> 01:00:34,640 >> with our team, with the 2776 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:35,310 officer. 2777 01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:35,532 >> that has that child. 2778 01:00:35,532 --> 01:00:36,366 >> in. 2779 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:39,336 Their custody at that time. 2780 01:00:39,336 --> 01:00:40,937 And so this is not a situation 2781 01:00:40,937 --> 01:00:41,738 where the parent shows up to 2782 01:00:41,738 --> 01:00:43,390 get their kid and they're 2783 01:00:43,390 --> 01:00:44,274 immediately handed a citation. 2784 01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:45,241 There are multiple 2785 01:00:45,241 --> 01:00:47,144 conversations that are taking 2786 01:00:47,144 --> 01:00:47,611 place and I've been part of 2787 01:00:47,611 --> 01:00:49,313 those conversations. 2788 01:00:49,313 --> 01:00:49,980 I've seen them happen where we 2789 01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:50,647 sit down and. 2790 01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:51,782 >> we try. 2791 01:00:51,782 --> 01:00:53,216 >> to give that parent 2792 01:00:53,216 --> 01:00:54,951 resources so there are 2793 01:00:54,951 --> 01:00:56,853 opportunities where we are able 2794 01:00:56,853 --> 01:00:58,455 to pull that juveniles uh, 2795 01:00:58,455 --> 01:00:59,756 information up to see if indeed 2796 01:00:59,756 --> 01:01:01,291 that parents account is true. 2797 01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:03,600 And now often times in 2798 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,495 different cases it is true and 2799 01:01:04,495 --> 01:01:04,695 we try to connect them with as 2800 01:01:04,695 --> 01:01:06,695 many. 2801 01:01:06,730 --> 01:01:07,698 resources as we can to try to 2802 01:01:07,698 --> 01:01:09,566 help that parent out. 2803 01:01:09,566 --> 01:01:11,566 Right. 2804 01:01:11,602 --> 01:01:13,804 >> it means that you will have 2805 01:01:13,804 --> 01:01:15,505 to use uh, a certain amount of 2806 01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:16,940 judgment in your administration 2807 01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:20,411 of these rules both as it 2808 01:01:20,411 --> 01:01:21,712 relates to the uh uh, who's out 2809 01:01:21,712 --> 01:01:22,213 and what they're doing and as 2810 01:01:22,213 --> 01:01:24,810 it relates. 2811 01:01:24,810 --> 01:01:25,516 So I appreciate that you have a 2812 01:01:25,516 --> 01:01:26,951 tool here that can be brought 2813 01:01:26,951 --> 01:01:28,686 to bear against the juvenile or 2814 01:01:28,686 --> 01:01:31,860 the parent and uh. 2815 01:01:31,989 --> 01:01:34,358 I trust cmpd to use that 2816 01:01:34,358 --> 01:01:35,626 authority judiciously and and 2817 01:01:35,626 --> 01:01:36,260 not penalize people who. 2818 01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:37,610 Really aren't. 2819 01:01:37,610 --> 01:01:37,661 Guilty of anything. 2820 01:01:37,661 --> 01:01:38,763 So thank. 2821 01:01:38,763 --> 01:01:39,697 You for what you're doing. 2822 01:01:39,697 --> 01:01:41,990 Thank you, MR. Driggs. 2823 01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:42,367 Thank you. 2824 01:01:42,367 --> 01:01:43,634 Council member driggs I think 2825 01:01:43,634 --> 01:01:43,968 next is council member graham. 2826 01:01:43,968 --> 01:01:45,360 . 2827 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,710 >> and I'll be quick. 2828 01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:48,205 MR. Mayor, I understand your 2829 01:01:48,205 --> 01:01:48,673 time limit at 6:00. 2830 01:01:48,673 --> 01:01:49,607 I just. 2831 01:01:49,607 --> 01:01:51,800 Wanted to thank. 2832 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:52,910 Uh, cmpd and chief patterson 2833 01:01:52,910 --> 01:01:53,577 for your leadership on on this 2834 01:01:53,577 --> 01:01:55,145 particular issue. 2835 01:01:55,145 --> 01:01:57,145 I was, uh. 2836 01:01:57,182 --> 01:01:59,840 >> at university city, uh, 2837 01:01:59,840 --> 01:01:59,551 joined the teen takeover and. 2838 01:01:59,551 --> 01:01:59,884 >> uh. 2839 01:01:59,884 --> 01:02:00,118 It was. 2840 01:02:00,118 --> 01:02:01,652 Um. 2841 01:02:01,652 --> 01:02:03,652 >> different at best. 2842 01:02:04,923 --> 01:02:06,357 Uh, for sure there was a 2843 01:02:06,357 --> 01:02:07,825 news article uh, interview 2844 01:02:07,825 --> 01:02:10,270 where three football players 2845 01:02:10,270 --> 01:02:11,295 actually supported high school 2846 01:02:11,295 --> 01:02:13,531 football players supported the 2847 01:02:13,531 --> 01:02:14,166 teen curfew uh, and wanted. 2848 01:02:14,166 --> 01:02:16,166 Restrictions and. 2849 01:02:16,334 --> 01:02:17,302 Guidelines for themselves as 2850 01:02:17,302 --> 01:02:19,337 well as their peers. 2851 01:02:19,337 --> 01:02:21,106 but they also wanted something 2852 01:02:21,106 --> 01:02:23,475 to do as well right where they 2853 01:02:23,475 --> 01:02:24,575 can go for a safe space uh and 2854 01:02:24,575 --> 01:02:25,900 be responsible and. 2855 01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:26,377 Hanging out and. 2856 01:02:26,377 --> 01:02:26,578 >> doing things that teenagers 2857 01:02:26,578 --> 01:02:28,146 do. 2858 01:02:28,146 --> 01:02:28,713 And so I do. 2859 01:02:28,713 --> 01:02:29,180 >> want to. 2860 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:29,781 Echo some of that. 2861 01:02:29,781 --> 01:02:31,250 >> my comments. 2862 01:02:31,250 --> 01:02:32,317 In reference to really making 2863 01:02:32,317 --> 01:02:33,719 sure that this is. 2864 01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:35,719 An intentional. 2865 01:02:36,988 --> 01:02:38,123 Year round when something 2866 01:02:38,123 --> 01:02:39,691 happens, not when. 2867 01:02:39,691 --> 01:02:40,792 There's a shooting on on new 2868 01:02:40,792 --> 01:02:41,626 year's eve, not when there's a 2869 01:02:41,626 --> 01:02:43,328 teen take over. 2870 01:02:43,328 --> 01:02:45,563 We have to be very intentional 2871 01:02:45,563 --> 01:02:47,963 about interacting and engaging 2872 01:02:48,868 --> 01:02:51,870 our our young people every day 2873 01:02:51,870 --> 01:02:53,772 of the year and we have to have 2874 01:02:53,772 --> 01:02:54,907 some collaboration with 2875 01:02:54,907 --> 01:02:56,174 mecklenburg county and parks 2876 01:02:56,174 --> 01:02:58,243 and recreation and how these 2877 01:02:58,243 --> 01:02:59,770 rec centers are being utilized 2878 01:02:59,770 --> 01:03:00,612 all over the city. 2879 01:03:00,612 --> 01:03:02,612 Uh, for sure. 2880 01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:05,818 Uh, and and we have to answer 2881 01:03:05,818 --> 01:03:07,553 the question about all the 2882 01:03:07,553 --> 01:03:09,922 schools that are sitting empty 2883 01:03:09,922 --> 01:03:11,991 during the summer months with 2884 01:03:11,991 --> 01:03:13,425 pools and gymnasium and and 2885 01:03:13,425 --> 01:03:14,860 empty classroom space where 2886 01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:15,995 they can do a live variety of 2887 01:03:15,995 --> 01:03:17,262 things. 2888 01:03:17,262 --> 01:03:18,831 If we come together as a 2889 01:03:18,831 --> 01:03:20,899 community and fund those 2890 01:03:20,899 --> 01:03:22,802 activities and utilizing these 2891 01:03:22,802 --> 01:03:23,770 schools uh council member male 2892 01:03:23,770 --> 01:03:24,737 throughout the county 2893 01:03:24,737 --> 01:03:26,737 throughout the city. 2894 01:03:28,341 --> 01:03:29,800 Lastly there is a teen takeover 2895 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,408 that I'm aware of. 2896 01:03:32,445 --> 01:03:34,813 Uh, it's a positive thing 2897 01:03:34,813 --> 01:03:37,813 OCTOBER 24th and district two 2898 01:03:38,451 --> 01:03:40,954 at the balloon studios there uh 2899 01:03:40,954 --> 01:03:43,356 is an art take over mural 2900 01:03:43,356 --> 01:03:45,756 painting uh canvas painting, 2901 01:03:45,858 --> 01:03:47,927 drawing, sketching uh recording 2902 01:03:47,927 --> 01:03:48,194 studio all will be in the iron 2903 01:03:48,194 --> 01:03:50,194 district. 2904 01:03:51,970 --> 01:03:53,633 It will be from 4 to 8 P.M. 2905 01:03:53,633 --> 01:03:56,135 Before the curfew takes place. 2906 01:03:56,135 --> 01:03:57,871 And so this is an example of 2907 01:03:57,871 --> 01:04:00,240 where parents are coming 2908 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,475 together trying to organize 2909 01:04:02,475 --> 01:04:02,809 creative activities for their 2910 01:04:02,809 --> 01:04:04,809 kids. 2911 01:04:05,110 --> 01:04:07,380 So we need to the school system 2912 01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:08,814 the county nonprofit 2913 01:04:08,814 --> 01:04:11,814 organization and churches to be 2914 01:04:11,951 --> 01:04:12,318 very intentional every day of 2915 01:04:12,318 --> 01:04:14,318 the year. 2916 01:04:14,353 --> 01:04:15,923 Not until there's a major 2917 01:04:15,923 --> 01:04:16,924 incident and then everyone is 2918 01:04:16,924 --> 01:04:17,124 excited about helping the 2919 01:04:17,124 --> 01:04:18,658 youth. 2920 01:04:18,658 --> 01:04:19,960 Uh, and then four weeks from 2921 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,160 now we're off to something 2922 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,610 else. 2923 01:04:21,610 --> 01:04:21,695 Thank you. 2924 01:04:21,695 --> 01:04:22,629 Thank you. 2925 01:04:22,629 --> 01:04:23,597 >> council member graham 2926 01:04:23,597 --> 01:04:25,597 council member johnson. 2927 01:04:25,632 --> 01:04:26,233 Thank you. 2928 01:04:26,233 --> 01:04:27,200 >> mayor. 2929 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,768 Um. 2930 01:04:28,768 --> 01:04:29,669 >> what happens. 2931 01:04:29,669 --> 01:04:31,104 If the. 2932 01:04:31,104 --> 01:04:32,806 Curfew is violated. 2933 01:04:32,806 --> 01:04:34,208 If the. 2934 01:04:34,208 --> 01:04:34,708 Curfews violated there's a 2935 01:04:34,708 --> 01:04:36,708 couple of things. 2936 01:04:37,377 --> 01:04:38,178 One is our officers will take 2937 01:04:38,178 --> 01:04:40,470 detain the youth. 2938 01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:41,181 We'll call their parents, we'll 2939 01:04:41,181 --> 01:04:43,490 talk to the parents. 2940 01:04:43,490 --> 01:04:44,351 Um, if warranted, let's say 2941 01:04:44,351 --> 01:04:45,152 this is about the third time or 2942 01:04:45,152 --> 01:04:45,952 something like that this is 2943 01:04:45,952 --> 01:04:46,586 occurred and they would do a. 2944 01:04:46,586 --> 01:04:47,120 Juvenile arrest. 2945 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:47,687 >> on them. 2946 01:04:47,687 --> 01:04:49,890 The officers. 2947 01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:50,391 Have discretion in that area 2948 01:04:50,391 --> 01:04:51,659 and if this is passed like I 2949 01:04:51,659 --> 01:04:53,561 stated earlier we would start 2950 01:04:53,561 --> 01:04:54,995 with the education campaign and 2951 01:04:54,995 --> 01:04:55,429 then from there warnings and 2952 01:04:55,429 --> 01:04:56,130 then enforcement. 2953 01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:56,664 So you're. 2954 01:04:56,664 --> 01:04:58,298 >> keeping. 2955 01:04:58,298 --> 01:04:58,666 Track of the children that you 2956 01:04:58,666 --> 01:04:59,767 detained? 2957 01:04:59,767 --> 01:05:01,635 Yes we're able to do that. 2958 01:05:01,635 --> 01:05:03,635 Okay. 2959 01:05:03,804 --> 01:05:04,400 >> and if they're 16 or 17 2960 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:04,238 years. 2961 01:05:04,238 --> 01:05:04,805 Old and. 2962 01:05:04,805 --> 01:05:05,572 >> they're. 2963 01:05:05,572 --> 01:05:06,440 Arrested are they charged. 2964 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,400 >> as an adult? 2965 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,609 No. 2966 01:05:08,609 --> 01:05:10,311 >> no. 2967 01:05:10,311 --> 01:05:10,745 >> jessica do you want to. 2968 01:05:10,745 --> 01:05:11,145 Clarify that. 2969 01:05:11,145 --> 01:05:11,512 >> yes. 2970 01:05:11,512 --> 01:05:12,113 Or no okay. 2971 01:05:12,113 --> 01:05:12,680 They are not. 2972 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,470 >> charged. 2973 01:05:13,470 --> 01:05:13,614 As an adult. 2974 01:05:13,614 --> 01:05:15,182 But they. 2975 01:05:15,182 --> 01:05:16,450 Is that a misdemeanor? 2976 01:05:16,450 --> 01:05:17,685 It will go to juvenile. 2977 01:05:17,685 --> 01:05:19,190 Court um as a. 2978 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:20,870 Misdemeanor and it will be. 2979 01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:21,188 It will be heard there. 2980 01:05:21,188 --> 01:05:22,890 The only time. 2981 01:05:22,890 --> 01:05:22,356 >> they might be charged with 2982 01:05:22,356 --> 01:05:22,556 an adult. 2983 01:05:22,556 --> 01:05:23,724 Is if. 2984 01:05:23,724 --> 01:05:25,393 >> there's an accompanying. 2985 01:05:25,393 --> 01:05:27,162 Offense that would make. 2986 01:05:27,162 --> 01:05:28,563 >> them as a 16 or 17 year old. 2987 01:05:28,563 --> 01:05:29,197 Held as an adult. 2988 01:05:29,197 --> 01:05:29,630 Right? 2989 01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:29,964 >> that would. 2990 01:05:29,964 --> 01:05:31,650 >> be. 2991 01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:31,833 The crime anyway, right? 2992 01:05:31,833 --> 01:05:33,100 But I mean. 2993 01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:33,201 >> just for the curfew alone. 2994 01:05:33,201 --> 01:05:34,268 Yeah. 2995 01:05:34,268 --> 01:05:36,268 >> no juvenile court. 2996 01:05:36,304 --> 01:05:38,500 Okay, so you say. 2997 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:38,272 That if they're if they have a 2998 01:05:38,272 --> 01:05:38,639 note from. 2999 01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:39,840 >> their. 3000 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,844 Parent or they're on their way 3001 01:05:42,844 --> 01:05:44,913 from work if they're in a car, 3002 01:05:44,913 --> 01:05:46,181 are they able to be pulled over 3003 01:05:46,181 --> 01:05:48,181 for curfew violation. 3004 01:05:48,216 --> 01:05:50,216 Probable curfew. 3005 01:05:51,185 --> 01:05:51,719 Violation legally if you look. 3006 01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:52,120 >> at the. 3007 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,154 Black and white. 3008 01:05:53,154 --> 01:05:53,621 Letter of the law seeing. 3009 01:05:53,621 --> 01:05:54,689 >> a. 3010 01:05:54,689 --> 01:05:55,189 Minor out who is. 3011 01:05:55,189 --> 01:05:55,890 In the. 3012 01:05:55,890 --> 01:05:56,591 >> age demographic. 3013 01:05:56,591 --> 01:05:57,225 >> of the curfew. 3014 01:05:57,225 --> 01:05:58,226 That would. 3015 01:05:58,226 --> 01:06:00,280 Give law enforcement. 3016 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:00,262 Reasonable suspicion to stop a 3017 01:06:00,262 --> 01:06:01,630 vehicle. 3018 01:06:01,630 --> 01:06:02,764 However, chief. 3019 01:06:02,764 --> 01:06:04,764 Patterson has authority. 3020 01:06:05,367 --> 01:06:06,668 >> to set directives on how and 3021 01:06:06,668 --> 01:06:07,350 when officers were. 3022 01:06:07,350 --> 01:06:08,603 >> to. 3023 01:06:08,603 --> 01:06:09,771 Work would enforce the curfew. 3024 01:06:09,771 --> 01:06:10,238 But yes, it would be a 3025 01:06:10,238 --> 01:06:11,206 reasonable suspicion. 3026 01:06:11,206 --> 01:06:11,673 To stop a vehicle. 3027 01:06:11,673 --> 01:06:12,307 Thank you. 3028 01:06:12,307 --> 01:06:12,774 Do we have. 3029 01:06:12,774 --> 01:06:13,942 A youth. 3030 01:06:13,942 --> 01:06:14,775 >> council where we're hearing 3031 01:06:14,775 --> 01:06:16,344 from the youth? 3032 01:06:16,344 --> 01:06:16,711 Actually we do. 3033 01:06:16,711 --> 01:06:17,980 >> and. 3034 01:06:17,980 --> 01:06:19,810 I have uh, major tell us is 3035 01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:20,516 here I know where in the 3036 01:06:20,516 --> 01:06:21,984 interest of time we can get 3037 01:06:21,984 --> 01:06:23,418 more information but we do we 3038 01:06:23,418 --> 01:06:25,200 did reach out to the youth even 3039 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,588 at the beginning of the summer 3040 01:06:26,588 --> 01:06:27,255 to get ideas on things that 3041 01:06:27,255 --> 01:06:28,656 they would like done. 3042 01:06:28,656 --> 01:06:29,925 So we will get that compiled 3043 01:06:29,925 --> 01:06:31,693 and major tells will make sure 3044 01:06:31,693 --> 01:06:33,261 we get that over to you okay. 3045 01:06:33,261 --> 01:06:34,195 And then one of the slides. 3046 01:06:34,195 --> 01:06:35,765 Said if a. 3047 01:06:35,765 --> 01:06:36,999 Business knowingly. 3048 01:06:36,999 --> 01:06:37,633 I'm looking for this slide. 3049 01:06:37,633 --> 01:06:38,734 If a. 3050 01:06:38,734 --> 01:06:40,734 Business knowingly. 3051 01:06:42,471 --> 01:06:42,805 supports curfew violation the 3052 01:06:42,805 --> 01:06:43,739 business can. 3053 01:06:43,739 --> 01:06:45,739 Be penalized. 3054 01:06:46,108 --> 01:06:48,277 So if a if a. 3055 01:06:48,277 --> 01:06:50,277 Uh teenager. 3056 01:06:50,479 --> 01:06:50,812 Goes out to dinner after a 3057 01:06:50,812 --> 01:06:52,214 football game. 3058 01:06:52,214 --> 01:06:53,616 They're in a restaurant. 3059 01:06:53,616 --> 01:06:55,518 The restaurant is. 3060 01:06:55,518 --> 01:06:55,785 Responsible or who has that 3061 01:06:55,785 --> 01:06:57,119 business. 3062 01:06:57,119 --> 01:06:58,187 Affected? 3063 01:06:58,187 --> 01:06:59,588 >> I believe. 3064 01:06:59,588 --> 01:07:00,856 The intent or spirit. 3065 01:07:00,856 --> 01:07:01,757 >> of that particular part of 3066 01:07:01,757 --> 01:07:02,291 the exception is. 3067 01:07:02,291 --> 01:07:02,758 >> for. 3068 01:07:02,758 --> 01:07:04,159 Businesses that. 3069 01:07:04,159 --> 01:07:04,560 >> encourage juveniles. 3070 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,160 >> to. 3071 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,128 Violate the curfew. 3072 01:07:06,128 --> 01:07:06,528 . 3073 01:07:06,528 --> 01:07:06,929 >> um. 3074 01:07:06,929 --> 01:07:07,596 Businesses that. 3075 01:07:07,596 --> 01:07:08,130 >> conduct sort. 3076 01:07:08,130 --> 01:07:09,231 >> of. 3077 01:07:09,231 --> 01:07:11,267 Juvenile dance halls or. 3078 01:07:11,267 --> 01:07:13,267 Juvenile clubs that. 3079 01:07:13,469 --> 01:07:13,803 Allow juveniles to be out in 3080 01:07:13,803 --> 01:07:14,570 violation of. 3081 01:07:14,570 --> 01:07:16,138 The curfew. 3082 01:07:16,138 --> 01:07:17,106 With the intent of violating 3083 01:07:17,106 --> 01:07:17,907 the curfew. 3084 01:07:17,907 --> 01:07:19,175 >> and breaking the law. 3085 01:07:19,175 --> 01:07:19,675 But it wouldn't be something. 3086 01:07:19,675 --> 01:07:20,242 >> where. 3087 01:07:20,242 --> 01:07:20,710 Cmpd would be. 3088 01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:22,144 Curfew police. 3089 01:07:22,144 --> 01:07:22,778 Going to different restaurants 3090 01:07:22,778 --> 01:07:23,279 to look. 3091 01:07:23,279 --> 01:07:24,180 For juveniles. 3092 01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:25,114 But if you allowed. 3093 01:07:25,114 --> 01:07:25,881 An unlawful. 3094 01:07:25,881 --> 01:07:27,316 Assembly of. 3095 01:07:27,316 --> 01:07:27,651 >> juveniles to occur in your 3096 01:07:27,651 --> 01:07:28,285 business. 3097 01:07:28,285 --> 01:07:29,686 You could. 3098 01:07:29,686 --> 01:07:30,754 >> be held responsible for. 3099 01:07:30,754 --> 01:07:32,188 Allowing that. 3100 01:07:32,188 --> 01:07:33,890 Restricted violation. 3101 01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:35,491 but the offense is the same 3102 01:07:35,491 --> 01:07:35,692 regardless of the intent, right 3103 01:07:35,692 --> 01:07:36,759 . 3104 01:07:36,759 --> 01:07:37,694 It is. 3105 01:07:37,694 --> 01:07:38,327 However I believe. 3106 01:07:38,327 --> 01:07:39,662 The intent. 3107 01:07:39,662 --> 01:07:40,129 Goes to the enforcement. 3108 01:07:40,129 --> 01:07:40,763 >> of. 3109 01:07:40,763 --> 01:07:41,697 It in that. 3110 01:07:41,697 --> 01:07:43,265 Cmpd would not go. 3111 01:07:43,265 --> 01:07:44,660 >> out not going into 3112 01:07:44,660 --> 01:07:45,202 restaurants or movie theaters. 3113 01:07:45,202 --> 01:07:46,360 Looking for juveniles. 3114 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,270 But if it were. 3115 01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:48,371 Intended to be. 3116 01:07:48,371 --> 01:07:49,139 A teen toake. 3117 01:07:49,139 --> 01:07:50,240 Teen excuse. 3118 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,240 Me teen takeover. 3119 01:07:52,275 --> 01:07:53,376 Hosted inside of a. 3120 01:07:53,376 --> 01:07:54,144 Business um. 3121 01:07:54,144 --> 01:07:56,120 That would. 3122 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:56,346 Be where that particular part 3123 01:07:56,346 --> 01:07:57,146 of the. 3124 01:07:57,146 --> 01:07:58,715 Law takes place. 3125 01:07:58,715 --> 01:08:00,249 We don't usually see that. 3126 01:08:00,249 --> 01:08:00,750 That's a where charge it's. 3127 01:08:00,750 --> 01:08:02,251 Typically the. 3128 01:08:02,251 --> 01:08:03,220 Juveniles and. 3129 01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:03,787 >> or their caregivers. 3130 01:08:03,787 --> 01:08:05,489 That's fine. 3131 01:08:05,489 --> 01:08:06,390 Just a couple more questions I 3132 01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:07,657 told you mayor this is going. 3133 01:08:07,657 --> 01:08:08,825 I mean. 3134 01:08:08,825 --> 01:08:10,393 >> this is an important topic 3135 01:08:10,393 --> 01:08:10,794 and we should be able to ask 3136 01:08:10,794 --> 01:08:11,610 these questions. 3137 01:08:11,610 --> 01:08:12,162 Okay. 3138 01:08:12,162 --> 01:08:14,162 Um. 3139 01:08:20,604 --> 01:08:21,705 The object or the intent. 3140 01:08:21,705 --> 01:08:22,506 Or the purpose. 3141 01:08:22,506 --> 01:08:23,240 >> is to address the. 3142 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,808 Teen takeovers. 3143 01:08:24,808 --> 01:08:26,210 That's why we're. 3144 01:08:26,210 --> 01:08:28,112 That's why. 3145 01:08:28,112 --> 01:08:28,645 >> we're discussing this today. 3146 01:08:28,645 --> 01:08:29,279 Is this a. 3147 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,279 Temporary measure? 3148 01:08:31,448 --> 01:08:33,350 I would like to see this 3149 01:08:33,350 --> 01:08:35,585 permanent um certainly if if 3150 01:08:35,585 --> 01:08:37,955 like myrtle beach if we impose 3151 01:08:37,955 --> 01:08:38,923 this and then we start to see 3152 01:08:38,923 --> 01:08:39,890 reductions, we are seeing where 3153 01:08:39,890 --> 01:08:41,250 teens are not being harmed or 3154 01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:42,460 hurt, then that's something 3155 01:08:42,460 --> 01:08:43,660 else we could bring back to you 3156 01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:45,462 for modification. 3157 01:08:45,462 --> 01:08:46,730 But we would like it to be a 3158 01:08:46,730 --> 01:08:48,730 permanent change. 3159 01:08:49,233 --> 01:08:50,167 So could we increase. 3160 01:08:50,167 --> 01:08:50,801 The can. 3161 01:08:50,801 --> 01:08:52,360 We bring. 3162 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,971 In some of these youth to look 3163 01:08:53,971 --> 01:08:54,738 at social media and to stop. 3164 01:08:54,738 --> 01:08:55,673 These teen. 3165 01:08:55,673 --> 01:08:57,750 These teen. 3166 01:08:57,750 --> 01:08:58,176 Takeovers before. 3167 01:08:58,176 --> 01:08:58,810 They start? 3168 01:08:58,810 --> 01:09:00,810 I heard. 3169 01:09:01,145 --> 01:09:01,946 That there's been some activity 3170 01:09:01,946 --> 01:09:02,313 and there's been some 3171 01:09:02,313 --> 01:09:03,714 monitoring and. 3172 01:09:03,714 --> 01:09:04,181 Because of that some. 3173 01:09:04,181 --> 01:09:06,181 Of the. 3174 01:09:06,216 --> 01:09:06,383 Planned events have fizzled out 3175 01:09:06,383 --> 01:09:08,383 . 3176 01:09:09,530 --> 01:09:10,200 Is that true in terms you're 3177 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,557 saying some of it has feels 3178 01:09:12,557 --> 01:09:14,159 like recent reduction due to 3179 01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:16,159 our monitoring. 3180 01:09:16,494 --> 01:09:17,762 So we had how many teen 3181 01:09:17,762 --> 01:09:19,762 takeovers dc riley. 3182 01:09:19,797 --> 01:09:21,650 Um that we knew of the. 3183 01:09:21,650 --> 01:09:21,232 Exact number that we responded 3184 01:09:21,232 --> 01:09:21,632 . 3185 01:09:21,632 --> 01:09:22,734 >> to. 3186 01:09:22,734 --> 01:09:24,135 Over the summer were six. 3187 01:09:24,135 --> 01:09:26,135 Okay. 3188 01:09:27,405 --> 01:09:30,141 >> what I would like to see is 3189 01:09:30,141 --> 01:09:32,277 some of these solutions. 3190 01:09:32,277 --> 01:09:33,211 Enacted and. 3191 01:09:33,211 --> 01:09:34,613 Maybe I don't know. 3192 01:09:34,613 --> 01:09:35,714 Before we. 3193 01:09:35,714 --> 01:09:37,714 Enacted a curfew. 3194 01:09:37,916 --> 01:09:39,183 Or you know, maybe a temporary 3195 01:09:39,183 --> 01:09:41,386 curfew and then we take a look. 3196 01:09:41,386 --> 01:09:41,719 At, you know, opening up these 3197 01:09:41,719 --> 01:09:43,121 third. 3198 01:09:43,121 --> 01:09:44,555 Places working with the county 3199 01:09:44,555 --> 01:09:44,856 I think this is an as an in 3200 01:09:44,856 --> 01:09:45,222 governance. 3201 01:09:45,222 --> 01:09:47,570 as a. 3202 01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:48,327 Governance intergovernmental 3203 01:09:48,327 --> 01:09:49,728 issue the county in the. 3204 01:09:49,728 --> 01:09:50,329 State we need solutions. 3205 01:09:50,329 --> 01:09:51,960 There's not. 3206 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:51,596 >> a skating. 3207 01:09:51,596 --> 01:09:52,230 >> rink. 3208 01:09:52,230 --> 01:09:53,799 In a. 3209 01:09:53,799 --> 01:09:53,999 Reasonable district in this 3210 01:09:53,999 --> 01:09:55,400 city. 3211 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,269 So if we want to fund. 3212 01:09:57,269 --> 01:09:59,269 Something instead of. 3213 01:09:59,471 --> 01:09:59,838 Increasing criminal I mean 3214 01:09:59,838 --> 01:10:01,239 there's cates. 3215 01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:02,173 But if you're in the university 3216 01:10:02,173 --> 01:10:03,274 it's very, very far. 3217 01:10:03,274 --> 01:10:04,275 So if. 3218 01:10:04,275 --> 01:10:05,211 >> we want to fund. 3219 01:10:05,211 --> 01:10:06,312 Something or be. 3220 01:10:06,312 --> 01:10:07,713 Intentional about something. 3221 01:10:07,713 --> 01:10:09,748 Let's be intentional about. 3222 01:10:09,748 --> 01:10:11,150 Third places or solutions. 3223 01:10:11,150 --> 01:10:12,284 >> are helping the youth. 3224 01:10:12,284 --> 01:10:13,285 >> you know we have a. 3225 01:10:13,285 --> 01:10:13,986 >> we have universities we. 3226 01:10:13,986 --> 01:10:15,687 Can work with them. 3227 01:10:15,687 --> 01:10:16,188 Maybe there's some options I 3228 01:10:16,188 --> 01:10:18,188 just don't want. 3229 01:10:18,356 --> 01:10:18,790 And I said I was not going. 3230 01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:19,324 To you know. 3231 01:10:19,324 --> 01:10:20,725 >> I was. 3232 01:10:20,725 --> 01:10:21,126 Going to just be neutral. 3233 01:10:21,126 --> 01:10:21,459 >> and. 3234 01:10:21,459 --> 01:10:22,361 Really listen. 3235 01:10:22,361 --> 01:10:24,761 >> but I don't support. 3236 01:10:24,863 --> 01:10:26,265 Increasing um. 3237 01:10:26,265 --> 01:10:27,366 Interaction with. 3238 01:10:27,366 --> 01:10:28,133 Our youth and. 3239 01:10:28,133 --> 01:10:28,334 Um. 3240 01:10:28,334 --> 01:10:28,634 . 3241 01:10:28,634 --> 01:10:30,369 And. 3242 01:10:30,369 --> 01:10:31,303 Police on a negative. 3243 01:10:31,303 --> 01:10:33,303 Basis or. 3244 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,800 Possibly impacting their 3245 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,142 criminal record and their 3246 01:10:37,142 --> 01:10:38,110 future if there's something 3247 01:10:38,110 --> 01:10:39,211 more that we can do. 3248 01:10:39,211 --> 01:10:39,644 So I think we. 3249 01:10:39,644 --> 01:10:40,780 >> should. 3250 01:10:40,780 --> 01:10:41,781 Take a look at other options. 3251 01:10:41,781 --> 01:10:42,348 before we. 3252 01:10:42,348 --> 01:10:43,416 >> proceed. 3253 01:10:43,416 --> 01:10:44,517 >> especially when you. 3254 01:10:44,517 --> 01:10:44,851 >> talk about parents being 3255 01:10:44,851 --> 01:10:46,418 responsible. 3256 01:10:46,418 --> 01:10:48,187 I've spoken to a parent that's 3257 01:10:48,187 --> 01:10:50,550 asked for help numerous times. 3258 01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:50,222 Her child is committing crimes 3259 01:10:50,222 --> 01:10:51,490 and. 3260 01:10:51,490 --> 01:10:53,659 She can't get any help. 3261 01:10:53,659 --> 01:10:54,927 So we. 3262 01:10:54,927 --> 01:10:55,260 Have to look at this 3263 01:10:55,260 --> 01:10:56,228 realistically. 3264 01:10:56,228 --> 01:10:56,562 >> in my opinion. 3265 01:10:56,562 --> 01:10:57,697 But you. 3266 01:10:57,697 --> 01:10:58,865 >> know when the chief says if 3267 01:10:58,865 --> 01:10:59,866 you if you don't do something. 3268 01:10:59,866 --> 01:11:00,333 Children are going to die. 3269 01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:01,334 >> I mean. 3270 01:11:01,334 --> 01:11:02,702 >> that's something we also 3271 01:11:02,702 --> 01:11:03,369 have the responsibility we want 3272 01:11:03,369 --> 01:11:05,369 to protect our. 3273 01:11:05,405 --> 01:11:05,738 Youth but protecting them is 3274 01:11:05,738 --> 01:11:07,738 also. 3275 01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:09,508 Providing solutions and 3276 01:11:09,508 --> 01:11:09,709 protecting their future as well 3277 01:11:09,709 --> 01:11:10,176 . 3278 01:11:10,176 --> 01:11:11,877 Thank you. 3279 01:11:11,877 --> 01:11:13,479 Thank you council member 3280 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:13,712 johnson council member MISS 3281 01:11:13,712 --> 01:11:15,248 Various. 3282 01:11:15,248 --> 01:11:16,349 Thank you mayor. 3283 01:11:16,349 --> 01:11:16,816 Uh thank. 3284 01:11:16,816 --> 01:11:17,751 >> you. 3285 01:11:17,751 --> 01:11:18,351 Chief and thank. 3286 01:11:18,351 --> 01:11:19,152 You uh staff. 3287 01:11:19,152 --> 01:11:20,720 For really. 3288 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,321 Putting this presentation. 3289 01:11:21,321 --> 01:11:21,788 >> I really. 3290 01:11:21,788 --> 01:11:22,755 Appreciate it. 3291 01:11:22,755 --> 01:11:24,157 I take. 3292 01:11:24,157 --> 01:11:24,624 Particular interest. 3293 01:11:24,624 --> 01:11:25,224 >> in. 3294 01:11:25,224 --> 01:11:25,424 This issue. 3295 01:11:25,424 --> 01:11:26,359 Uh. 3296 01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:26,793 >> being the council. 3297 01:11:26,793 --> 01:11:27,126 Member closer. 3298 01:11:27,126 --> 01:11:27,493 >> to. 3299 01:11:27,493 --> 01:11:27,827 Being a. 3300 01:11:27,827 --> 01:11:29,827 Teenager. 3301 01:11:30,796 --> 01:11:31,397 >> uh uh, just ten. 3302 01:11:31,397 --> 01:11:32,198 >> years ago. 3303 01:11:32,198 --> 01:11:34,198 Um. 3304 01:11:34,301 --> 01:11:36,169 >> and so, um. 3305 01:11:36,169 --> 01:11:36,636 You know, and I and I start. 3306 01:11:36,636 --> 01:11:37,137 >> with. 3307 01:11:37,137 --> 01:11:39,137 That because. 3308 01:11:39,139 --> 01:11:39,706 Ten years ago there. 3309 01:11:39,706 --> 01:11:41,107 >> were. 3310 01:11:41,107 --> 01:11:41,341 Pools, there were bowling 3311 01:11:41,341 --> 01:11:42,208 alleys. 3312 01:11:42,208 --> 01:11:43,176 There are. 3313 01:11:43,176 --> 01:11:44,244 >> places for. 3314 01:11:44,244 --> 01:11:44,944 Myself and. 3315 01:11:44,944 --> 01:11:45,745 >> my friends to. 3316 01:11:45,745 --> 01:11:47,745 Go to. 3317 01:11:49,649 --> 01:11:50,617 That a lot of places now impose 3318 01:11:50,617 --> 01:11:51,118 restrictions for young people 3319 01:11:51,118 --> 01:11:51,452 to be at. 3320 01:11:51,452 --> 01:11:51,985 I have. 3321 01:11:51,985 --> 01:11:52,219 >> a. 3322 01:11:52,219 --> 01:11:53,687 Uh. 3323 01:11:53,687 --> 01:11:54,210 >> 18 year old sister. 3324 01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:54,521 >> who. 3325 01:11:54,521 --> 01:11:55,255 I just asked. 3326 01:11:55,255 --> 01:11:56,656 Recently what. 3327 01:11:56,656 --> 01:11:58,224 Does she do for fun? 3328 01:11:58,224 --> 01:11:58,625 And the only place she was. 3329 01:11:58,625 --> 01:11:58,892 >> able. 3330 01:11:58,892 --> 01:11:59,292 To say. 3331 01:11:59,292 --> 01:11:59,659 >> it was. 3332 01:11:59,659 --> 01:12:01,270 >> south. 3333 01:12:01,270 --> 01:12:02,562 Park because everywhere else 3334 01:12:02,562 --> 01:12:03,797 um, is for folks that are. 3335 01:12:03,797 --> 01:12:04,731 21 and up. 3336 01:12:04,731 --> 01:12:05,198 And during. 3337 01:12:05,198 --> 01:12:05,431 >> the world. 3338 01:12:05,431 --> 01:12:05,832 Cup I. 3339 01:12:05,832 --> 01:12:06,299 >> had. 3340 01:12:06,299 --> 01:12:07,868 Family visiting. 3341 01:12:07,868 --> 01:12:08,402 >> from colombia which. 3342 01:12:08,402 --> 01:12:08,769 By the way. 3343 01:12:08,769 --> 01:12:09,503 Colombia is. 3344 01:12:09,503 --> 01:12:10,271 >> in my thoughts and. 3345 01:12:10,271 --> 01:12:12,600 Prayers today after the. 3346 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:12,339 Earthquake that they 3347 01:12:12,339 --> 01:12:14,339 experienced. 3348 01:12:15,442 --> 01:12:15,809 Um and and we kind of watch. 3349 01:12:15,809 --> 01:12:16,243 >> a. 3350 01:12:16,243 --> 01:12:17,978 World cup. 3351 01:12:17,978 --> 01:12:18,779 game because a lot of our bars 3352 01:12:18,779 --> 01:12:20,779 and restaurants. 3353 01:12:21,281 --> 01:12:21,515 Impose 21 and up restrictions. 3354 01:12:21,515 --> 01:12:22,282 Right. 3355 01:12:22,282 --> 01:12:23,717 >> and so. 3356 01:12:23,717 --> 01:12:25,219 Intentionally or. 3357 01:12:25,219 --> 01:12:26,787 Unintentionally um. 3358 01:12:26,787 --> 01:12:27,722 Our policy decisions. 3359 01:12:27,722 --> 01:12:28,220 >> and the business 3360 01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:28,356 environment. 3361 01:12:28,356 --> 01:12:29,156 That we've. 3362 01:12:29,156 --> 01:12:29,790 >> created has. 3363 01:12:29,790 --> 01:12:31,192 Made the. 3364 01:12:31,192 --> 01:12:32,593 >> city and my belief. 3365 01:12:32,593 --> 01:12:33,930 Unsustainable for. 3366 01:12:33,930 --> 01:12:33,494 >> a. 3367 01:12:33,494 --> 01:12:34,695 Younger people. 3368 01:12:34,695 --> 01:12:35,196 Uh, to really thrive. 3369 01:12:35,196 --> 01:12:35,963 >> in. 3370 01:12:35,963 --> 01:12:36,263 And get involved in. 3371 01:12:36,263 --> 01:12:37,197 Um. 3372 01:12:37,197 --> 01:12:38,298 >> so I. 3373 01:12:38,298 --> 01:12:38,765 And I take the. 3374 01:12:38,765 --> 01:12:39,699 Recent youth. 3375 01:12:39,699 --> 01:12:41,335 Takeovers and. 3376 01:12:41,335 --> 01:12:42,203 >> safety concerns seriously. 3377 01:12:42,203 --> 01:12:42,904 Uh. 3378 01:12:42,904 --> 01:12:43,304 >> but I do. 3379 01:12:43,304 --> 01:12:43,571 >> believe. 3380 01:12:43,571 --> 01:12:45,273 We should. 3381 01:12:45,273 --> 01:12:45,740 >> target harmful conduct. 3382 01:12:45,740 --> 01:12:47,740 Not make. 3383 01:12:47,742 --> 01:12:48,676 Simply being young and. 3384 01:12:48,676 --> 01:12:49,310 Outside after 9 P.M.. 3385 01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:50,244 Grounds for. 3386 01:12:50,244 --> 01:12:51,679 Police intervention. 3387 01:12:51,679 --> 01:12:52,213 I think the proposal right now. 3388 01:12:52,213 --> 01:12:52,680 >> as. 3389 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:53,781 It stands. 3390 01:12:53,781 --> 01:12:54,715 Would impose. 3391 01:12:54,715 --> 01:12:55,482 Uh, the. 3392 01:12:55,482 --> 01:12:57,218 9 P.M. Curfew on. 3393 01:12:57,218 --> 01:12:57,518 Everyone under 18 and I. 3394 01:12:57,518 --> 01:12:58,319 >> do. 3395 01:12:58,319 --> 01:12:59,721 Think that's extremely. 3396 01:12:59,721 --> 01:13:01,256 Uh, a broad response to. 3397 01:13:01,256 --> 01:13:03,256 Incidents involving a. 3398 01:13:03,291 --> 01:13:04,225 Much smaller. 3399 01:13:04,225 --> 01:13:04,792 >> number of incidents. 3400 01:13:04,792 --> 01:13:05,360 We heard. 3401 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:06,260 >> just now. 3402 01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:06,728 Six incidents. 3403 01:13:06,728 --> 01:13:07,228 Right. 3404 01:13:07,228 --> 01:13:08,763 Um. 3405 01:13:08,763 --> 01:13:09,697 >> the uh. 3406 01:13:09,697 --> 01:13:11,265 I also have some. 3407 01:13:11,265 --> 01:13:13,265 Concerns as well. 3408 01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:15,300 Because we're not. 3409 01:13:15,336 --> 01:13:16,270 Getting much. 3410 01:13:16,270 --> 01:13:17,710 Help from. 3411 01:13:17,710 --> 01:13:18,773 >> the state. 3412 01:13:18,773 --> 01:13:19,875 We're seeing gaps. 3413 01:13:19,875 --> 01:13:21,743 Within our the. 3414 01:13:21,743 --> 01:13:23,311 County um, as well. 3415 01:13:23,311 --> 01:13:23,611 As uh our schools. 3416 01:13:23,611 --> 01:13:24,879 Uh. 3417 01:13:24,879 --> 01:13:25,380 >> we mentioned empty. 3418 01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:26,281 School buildings. 3419 01:13:26,281 --> 01:13:26,915 Throughout the summer. 3420 01:13:26,915 --> 01:13:28,915 Um. 3421 01:13:29,250 --> 01:13:30,785 And also my concern about our. 3422 01:13:30,785 --> 01:13:32,687 County jail system and. 3423 01:13:32,687 --> 01:13:33,788 How, you know, we have violent. 3424 01:13:33,788 --> 01:13:34,723 Criminals who. 3425 01:13:34,723 --> 01:13:36,425 Commit to commit. 3426 01:13:36,425 --> 01:13:37,793 Violent offenses. 3427 01:13:37,793 --> 01:13:38,293 Who are let out. 3428 01:13:38,293 --> 01:13:40,293 >> of. 3429 01:13:41,129 --> 01:13:42,564 Jail uh, five hours later, you 3430 01:13:42,564 --> 01:13:42,998 know, and and so how are we 3431 01:13:42,998 --> 01:13:44,650 going to keep. 3432 01:13:44,650 --> 01:13:44,866 >> at pace with this? 3433 01:13:44,866 --> 01:13:46,268 Um. 3434 01:13:46,268 --> 01:13:46,868 So I have a few. 3435 01:13:46,868 --> 01:13:47,402 Questions and. 3436 01:13:47,402 --> 01:13:47,802 >> I don't. 3437 01:13:47,802 --> 01:13:48,360 >> I don't. 3438 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,471 Want to. 3439 01:13:49,471 --> 01:13:49,804 >> uh, be later the point but, 3440 01:13:49,804 --> 01:13:50,772 um. 3441 01:13:50,772 --> 01:13:52,141 I currently. 3442 01:13:52,141 --> 01:13:52,341 >> don't support this as it is 3443 01:13:52,341 --> 01:13:52,808 . 3444 01:13:52,808 --> 01:13:54,808 Without a. 3445 01:13:55,377 --> 01:13:56,712 >> complimentary humanitarian. 3446 01:13:56,712 --> 01:13:57,946 Youth centered. 3447 01:13:57,946 --> 01:13:58,747 Solution attached to it. 3448 01:13:58,747 --> 01:14:00,449 Um. 3449 01:14:00,449 --> 01:14:00,649 >> some questions and follow 3450 01:14:00,649 --> 01:14:00,949 ups. 3451 01:14:00,949 --> 01:14:02,818 that we. 3452 01:14:02,818 --> 01:14:04,252 >> can take offline are one. 3453 01:14:04,252 --> 01:14:04,953 I would like to see. 3454 01:14:04,953 --> 01:14:05,420 >> the data. 3455 01:14:05,420 --> 01:14:06,988 On the. 3456 01:14:06,988 --> 01:14:07,322 >> effectiveness of youth 3457 01:14:07,322 --> 01:14:08,723 curfews. 3458 01:14:08,723 --> 01:14:10,723 Um, as. 3459 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,828 Uh I did my research. 3460 01:14:12,828 --> 01:14:13,896 Systemic uh, systematic. 3461 01:14:13,896 --> 01:14:14,363 Review of 12 studies. 3462 01:14:14,363 --> 01:14:15,431 >> found. 3463 01:14:15,431 --> 01:14:17,431 No meaningful evidence. 3464 01:14:17,633 --> 01:14:17,833 That youth curfews reduce crime 3465 01:14:17,833 --> 01:14:18,767 . 3466 01:14:18,767 --> 01:14:20,336 Or victimization. 3467 01:14:20,336 --> 01:14:20,803 Um, a curfew. 3468 01:14:20,803 --> 01:14:21,770 MAY disperse. 3469 01:14:21,770 --> 01:14:22,271 One gathering. 3470 01:14:22,271 --> 01:14:22,738 But it. 3471 01:14:22,738 --> 01:14:23,710 >> could. 3472 01:14:23,710 --> 01:14:23,839 Simply push. 3473 01:14:23,839 --> 01:14:25,407 Young people into. 3474 01:14:25,407 --> 01:14:26,341 Different and potentially. 3475 01:14:26,341 --> 01:14:27,277 Less safe. 3476 01:14:27,277 --> 01:14:28,244 >> locations for. 3477 01:14:28,244 --> 01:14:30,244 >> their teen takeovers. 3478 01:14:30,246 --> 01:14:31,480 Uh, perhaps. 3479 01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:32,915 >> in the woods and the. 3480 01:14:32,915 --> 01:14:34,150 Forest places you. 3481 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:35,284 Know where we will have no idea 3482 01:14:35,284 --> 01:14:36,218 where they're at. 3483 01:14:36,218 --> 01:14:38,218 Um. 3484 01:14:38,254 --> 01:14:39,321 >> the other thing I have a. 3485 01:14:39,321 --> 01:14:41,223 Question on is the sister. 3486 01:14:41,223 --> 01:14:41,523 Cities examples. 3487 01:14:41,523 --> 01:14:43,392 Um. 3488 01:14:43,392 --> 01:14:44,359 >> I saw that there's. 3489 01:14:44,359 --> 01:14:45,428 They're they're. 3490 01:14:45,428 --> 01:14:46,829 >> much more flexible. 3491 01:14:46,829 --> 01:14:48,829 With myrtle. 3492 01:14:48,865 --> 01:14:50,266 >> beach having a, uh. 3493 01:14:50,266 --> 01:14:50,867 Youth curfew 17. 3494 01:14:50,867 --> 01:14:51,300 >> years old. 3495 01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:52,869 >> and. 3496 01:14:52,869 --> 01:14:54,871 Younger citywide at midnight. 3497 01:14:54,871 --> 01:14:55,304 Atlanta 17 year. 3498 01:14:55,304 --> 01:14:56,672 Olds and. 3499 01:14:56,672 --> 01:14:57,390 >> younger sunday through 3500 01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:58,607 thursday. 3501 01:14:58,607 --> 01:14:59,410 11 P.M. To 6. 3502 01:14:59,410 --> 01:14:59,842 >> A.M.. 3503 01:14:59,842 --> 01:15:01,842 Friday and saturday. 3504 01:15:01,877 --> 01:15:02,813 Midnight to 6:06 A.M.. 3505 01:15:02,813 --> 01:15:03,746 And then nashville. 3506 01:15:03,746 --> 01:15:04,514 18 years. 3507 01:15:04,514 --> 01:15:06,514 >> old and. 3508 01:15:07,170 --> 01:15:07,383 Under sunday through thursday 3509 01:15:07,383 --> 01:15:07,851 11 P.M.. 3510 01:15:07,851 --> 01:15:08,485 >> to 5. 3511 01:15:08,485 --> 01:15:10,186 A.M. Friday and saturday. 3512 01:15:10,186 --> 01:15:10,954 12 A.M. To 5 A.M.. 3513 01:15:10,954 --> 01:15:13,354 And with the summer. 3514 01:15:13,622 --> 01:15:13,956 Exception all curfews are from 3515 01:15:13,956 --> 01:15:14,524 12. 3516 01:15:14,524 --> 01:15:14,824 >> A.M. To 5 A.M.. 3517 01:15:14,824 --> 01:15:16,580 From JUNE. 3518 01:15:16,580 --> 01:15:16,526 1st to AUGUST 31st. 3519 01:15:16,526 --> 01:15:17,960 So I. 3520 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,960 Do would like to know. 3521 01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:22,833 Why ours is a little less 3522 01:15:22,833 --> 01:15:23,900 flexible and more uh, strict. 3523 01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:25,468 Um and. 3524 01:15:25,468 --> 01:15:26,870 >> what what uh. 3525 01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:27,837 Studies and data led. 3526 01:15:27,837 --> 01:15:29,372 To that. 3527 01:15:29,372 --> 01:15:29,906 Um solution. 3528 01:15:29,906 --> 01:15:31,906 Being presented. 3529 01:15:33,610 --> 01:15:34,577 The third thing is we as a 3530 01:15:34,577 --> 01:15:37,114 council and we've heard this 3531 01:15:37,114 --> 01:15:37,915 from uh, cmpd as well we have 3532 01:15:37,915 --> 01:15:39,483 limited resources. 3533 01:15:39,483 --> 01:15:41,351 Uh, they're scarce. 3534 01:15:41,351 --> 01:15:42,619 And so we also heard. 3535 01:15:42,619 --> 01:15:42,953 You know, we won't have no 3536 01:15:42,953 --> 01:15:43,253 curfew. 3537 01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:44,187 Police. 3538 01:15:44,187 --> 01:15:44,655 >> well, then. 3539 01:15:44,655 --> 01:15:45,522 >> I. 3540 01:15:45,522 --> 01:15:46,323 Asked them why a curfew. 3541 01:15:46,323 --> 01:15:47,858 And then. 3542 01:15:47,858 --> 01:15:48,325 But but that really. 3543 01:15:48,325 --> 01:15:50,600 Ultimately leads. 3544 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:50,393 >> to another broader 3545 01:15:50,393 --> 01:15:50,861 conversation. 3546 01:15:50,861 --> 01:15:51,795 How will. 3547 01:15:51,795 --> 01:15:52,762 We have. 3548 01:15:52,762 --> 01:15:54,762 The capacity. 3549 01:15:56,330 --> 01:15:57,601 And resources to process curfew 3550 01:15:57,601 --> 01:15:58,736 violations, particularly when 3551 01:15:58,736 --> 01:15:59,269 we have a lot of targeted 3552 01:15:59,269 --> 01:15:59,937 operations happening. 3553 01:15:59,937 --> 01:16:01,937 >> in center. 3554 01:16:02,139 --> 01:16:03,574 City that are taking those 3555 01:16:03,574 --> 01:16:03,907 resources away from other 3556 01:16:03,907 --> 01:16:04,842 districts? 3557 01:16:04,842 --> 01:16:06,743 Um. 3558 01:16:06,743 --> 01:16:07,978 >> and then and. 3559 01:16:07,978 --> 01:16:08,145 >> I hope this is jotting down 3560 01:16:08,145 --> 01:16:08,912 and. 3561 01:16:08,912 --> 01:16:09,479 >> I don't expect. 3562 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,113 >> the answers right. 3563 01:16:10,113 --> 01:16:10,914 Now I just want to make. 3564 01:16:10,914 --> 01:16:11,381 Sure it's. 3565 01:16:11,381 --> 01:16:11,782 Brought in in. 3566 01:16:11,782 --> 01:16:12,149 >> the. 3567 01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:13,250 Meeting notes. 3568 01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:15,119 Um, the. 3569 01:16:15,119 --> 01:16:15,586 Office of youth opportunities I 3570 01:16:15,586 --> 01:16:16,530 want to hone in. 3571 01:16:16,530 --> 01:16:16,520 >> on that. 3572 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:16,854 >> I know. 3573 01:16:16,854 --> 01:16:17,187 >> you. 3574 01:16:17,187 --> 01:16:17,822 Said not to. 3575 01:16:17,822 --> 01:16:18,422 Be redundant. 3576 01:16:18,422 --> 01:16:19,457 >> but I just. 3577 01:16:19,457 --> 01:16:19,657 Want to make sure it's out 3578 01:16:19,657 --> 01:16:20,257 there. 3579 01:16:20,257 --> 01:16:22,257 Um. 3580 01:16:22,459 --> 01:16:22,793 >> what results have they 3581 01:16:22,793 --> 01:16:24,793 produced. 3582 01:16:24,828 --> 01:16:26,563 And why are sustained youth. 3583 01:16:26,563 --> 01:16:26,897 Investments not a central 3584 01:16:26,897 --> 01:16:27,998 component. 3585 01:16:27,998 --> 01:16:28,865 >> of our corridors of 3586 01:16:28,865 --> 01:16:29,266 opportunity programing? 3587 01:16:29,266 --> 01:16:30,235 Uh. 3588 01:16:30,235 --> 01:16:30,635 >> particularly because. 3589 01:16:30,635 --> 01:16:31,536 >> I. 3590 01:16:31,536 --> 01:16:31,869 Have not seen that in the east 3591 01:16:31,869 --> 01:16:32,837 side. 3592 01:16:32,837 --> 01:16:34,539 I do not see. 3593 01:16:34,539 --> 01:16:34,872 Youth programing attached to 3594 01:16:34,872 --> 01:16:35,573 corridors. 3595 01:16:35,573 --> 01:16:36,707 >> of opportunity. 3596 01:16:36,707 --> 01:16:36,874 Funding happening the east side 3597 01:16:36,874 --> 01:16:38,776 . 3598 01:16:38,776 --> 01:16:41,112 Um and then I want to. 3599 01:16:41,112 --> 01:16:41,445 Touch base on municipal service 3600 01:16:41,445 --> 01:16:42,980 districts. 3601 01:16:42,980 --> 01:16:43,247 so in locations such. 3602 01:16:43,247 --> 01:16:45,115 As the. 3603 01:16:45,115 --> 01:16:47,115 >> university broadwalk 3604 01:16:47,619 --> 01:16:49,619 boardwalk what responsibilities 3605 01:16:49,821 --> 01:16:50,488 should property owners, 3606 01:16:50,488 --> 01:16:51,890 security providers. 3607 01:16:51,890 --> 01:16:52,624 And municipal. 3608 01:16:52,624 --> 01:16:54,624 >> service districts. 3609 01:16:55,326 --> 01:16:55,493 Uh carry instead of relying on 3610 01:16:55,493 --> 01:16:57,395 a. 3611 01:16:57,395 --> 01:16:59,395 Citywide youth curfew? 3612 01:17:00,365 --> 01:17:01,766 Um and then my last question. 3613 01:17:01,766 --> 01:17:02,300 Will the ordinance include. 3614 01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:02,934 >> a. 3615 01:17:02,934 --> 01:17:03,867 Sunset date. 3616 01:17:03,867 --> 01:17:05,867 And independent. 3617 01:17:05,904 --> 01:17:06,371 Evaluation and the data. 3618 01:17:06,371 --> 01:17:07,472 Does indeed. 3619 01:17:07,472 --> 01:17:08,874 Show and this. 3620 01:17:08,874 --> 01:17:09,341 Council decides. 3621 01:17:09,341 --> 01:17:09,875 To pass. 3622 01:17:09,875 --> 01:17:11,810 >> it. 3623 01:17:11,810 --> 01:17:12,710 Uh pass this ordinance. 3624 01:17:12,710 --> 01:17:13,244 Uh. 3625 01:17:13,244 --> 01:17:14,512 >> does. 3626 01:17:14,512 --> 01:17:15,313 Not if the data shows that it 3627 01:17:15,313 --> 01:17:16,881 won't reduce. 3628 01:17:16,881 --> 01:17:19,281 Teen takeovers or improve. 3629 01:17:19,517 --> 01:17:19,851 Safety or that enforcement is 3630 01:17:19,851 --> 01:17:21,552 racially. 3631 01:17:21,552 --> 01:17:22,354 Disproportionate because we did 3632 01:17:22,354 --> 01:17:22,921 see that what. 3633 01:17:22,921 --> 01:17:24,323 >> was the. 3634 01:17:24,323 --> 01:17:26,323 >> number 91%. 3635 01:17:26,358 --> 01:17:27,292 91% of. 3636 01:17:27,292 --> 01:17:28,827 Victims are black and. 3637 01:17:28,827 --> 01:17:30,827 Hispanic or latino. 3638 01:17:30,862 --> 01:17:31,963 Will it automatically expire? 3639 01:17:31,963 --> 01:17:33,640 So those are some. 3640 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:33,999 Questions I want to put. 3641 01:17:33,999 --> 01:17:34,933 >> it out there. 3642 01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:36,801 And um. 3643 01:17:36,801 --> 01:17:39,304 Just being conscious of time. 3644 01:17:39,304 --> 01:17:40,500 Um I we. 3645 01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:40,339 >> can follow up on. 3646 01:17:40,339 --> 01:17:41,400 >> that. 3647 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:41,807 But thank you so much. 3648 01:17:41,807 --> 01:17:42,441 Yes sir. 3649 01:17:42,441 --> 01:17:44,143 Thank you. 3650 01:17:44,143 --> 01:17:44,343 >> council member maxwell you 3651 01:17:44,343 --> 01:17:45,577 must. 3652 01:17:45,577 --> 01:17:47,120 Suara arias. 3653 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,800 Council member anderson. 3654 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:48,547 I think. 3655 01:17:48,547 --> 01:17:49,470 >> you have the. 3656 01:17:49,470 --> 01:17:50,916 Last question. 3657 01:17:50,916 --> 01:17:51,516 Thank you, MR. Mayor. 3658 01:17:51,516 --> 01:17:52,317 It gets a. 3659 01:17:52,317 --> 01:17:52,884 Little I. 3660 01:17:52,884 --> 01:17:53,418 >> gotta get. 3661 01:17:53,418 --> 01:17:54,190 >> used to say. 3662 01:17:54,190 --> 01:17:56,190 MR. Mayor here. 3663 01:17:56,521 --> 01:17:58,124 Uh, but thank you, MR. Mayor 3664 01:17:58,124 --> 01:17:59,258 and thank you, council for a 3665 01:17:59,258 --> 01:18:01,160 very good conversation on this 3666 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,961 topic that the safety committee 3667 01:18:01,961 --> 01:18:03,961 has, uh, delved. 3668 01:18:04,163 --> 01:18:05,898 Into a lot of really good 3669 01:18:05,898 --> 01:18:07,499 questions and perspectives. 3670 01:18:07,499 --> 01:18:07,666 One thing I will say and I want 3671 01:18:07,666 --> 01:18:09,670 to. 3672 01:18:09,670 --> 01:18:09,401 Thank the chief and and her 3673 01:18:09,401 --> 01:18:10,369 team. 3674 01:18:10,369 --> 01:18:11,537 For all of. 3675 01:18:11,537 --> 01:18:14,390 >> the work that they've done. 3676 01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:15,475 You know both you know, I would 3677 01:18:15,475 --> 01:18:15,742 say you know inside the 3678 01:18:15,742 --> 01:18:16,743 building. 3679 01:18:16,743 --> 01:18:17,977 Doing the research. 3680 01:18:17,977 --> 01:18:20,213 >> and collecting all of this 3681 01:18:20,213 --> 01:18:22,581 data and information but also 3682 01:18:22,581 --> 01:18:23,883 equally if not more importantly 3683 01:18:23,883 --> 01:18:24,450 out on the streets. 3684 01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:24,917 Engaging with. 3685 01:18:24,917 --> 01:18:26,752 >> our. 3686 01:18:26,752 --> 01:18:27,720 Youth and our residents to try 3687 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:27,953 to curtail some of these 3688 01:18:27,953 --> 01:18:29,953 events. 3689 01:18:30,589 --> 01:18:32,325 Um, one of the most important 3690 01:18:32,325 --> 01:18:32,992 things I think we get a lot of 3691 01:18:32,992 --> 01:18:34,992 comments around. 3692 01:18:36,429 --> 01:18:38,429 How we'd. 3693 01:18:38,598 --> 01:18:40,330 Like to hold some of our 3694 01:18:40,330 --> 01:18:42,101 partners accountable for their 3695 01:18:42,101 --> 01:18:43,536 work and their efforts in a 3696 01:18:43,536 --> 01:18:45,137 collaborative nature, but the 3697 01:18:45,137 --> 01:18:46,572 reality is the structure of our 3698 01:18:46,572 --> 01:18:48,173 state and therefore the 3699 01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:49,443 structure of our local 3700 01:18:49,443 --> 01:18:51,678 municipal government we don't 3701 01:18:51,678 --> 01:18:51,878 have the same um, you know, the 3702 01:18:51,878 --> 01:18:53,878 same. 3703 01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:55,315 Ownership or managerial rights 3704 01:18:55,315 --> 01:18:56,883 as some other cities have. 3705 01:18:56,883 --> 01:18:58,170 So there's a reason that 3706 01:18:58,170 --> 01:18:58,384 there's a board of county 3707 01:18:58,384 --> 01:18:58,785 commissioners. 3708 01:18:58,785 --> 01:18:59,180 >> and they. 3709 01:18:59,180 --> 01:18:59,686 Have a. 3710 01:18:59,686 --> 01:19:01,870 Charter and a purview. 3711 01:19:01,870 --> 01:19:03,156 There's a reason that there's a 3712 01:19:03,156 --> 01:19:03,823 uh, cms school board and they 3713 01:19:03,823 --> 01:19:04,624 have a charter. 3714 01:19:04,624 --> 01:19:06,624 >> and a purview. 3715 01:19:06,625 --> 01:19:09,162 Many of the cities that we look 3716 01:19:09,162 --> 01:19:11,198 at especially within our size 3717 01:19:11,198 --> 01:19:12,666 as we're growing, they have 3718 01:19:12,666 --> 01:19:12,999 different governmental 3719 01:19:12,999 --> 01:19:13,500 structures. 3720 01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:13,733 Some of them. 3721 01:19:13,733 --> 01:19:14,467 Do. 3722 01:19:14,467 --> 01:19:16,202 >> some of them don't. 3723 01:19:16,202 --> 01:19:17,938 We happen to not have park and 3724 01:19:17,938 --> 01:19:20,306 recs under our purview. 3725 01:19:20,306 --> 01:19:20,473 That should not, however, deter 3726 01:19:20,473 --> 01:19:22,473 us. 3727 01:19:22,508 --> 01:19:24,508 From doing all. 3728 01:19:25,179 --> 01:19:26,780 We can within the scope of our 3729 01:19:26,780 --> 01:19:27,881 charter and within the scope of 3730 01:19:27,881 --> 01:19:28,348 our safety measures. 3731 01:19:28,348 --> 01:19:29,450 >> to. 3732 01:19:29,450 --> 01:19:31,151 Ensure that our our. 3733 01:19:31,151 --> 01:19:32,752 Children and our residents are 3734 01:19:32,752 --> 01:19:34,187 safe and we can encourage our 3735 01:19:34,187 --> 01:19:34,387 partners to do as much as they 3736 01:19:34,387 --> 01:19:36,387 can. 3737 01:19:38,291 --> 01:19:40,660 You know, I think that, um, 3738 01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:42,563 slide ten sort of speaks for 3739 01:19:42,563 --> 01:19:44,631 itself and uh, right, wrong or 3740 01:19:44,631 --> 01:19:47,310 indifferent we're saying that 3741 01:19:47,635 --> 01:19:48,435 um, our black and brown and 3742 01:19:48,435 --> 01:19:50,435 latino uh. 3743 01:19:51,572 --> 01:19:52,372 Juveniles are being victimized 3744 01:19:52,372 --> 01:19:54,772 at a higher rate. 3745 01:19:55,208 --> 01:19:55,509 That's just that's real 3746 01:19:55,509 --> 01:19:56,376 information. 3747 01:19:56,376 --> 01:19:58,345 It's not anecdotal. 3748 01:19:58,345 --> 01:20:00,345 It's real information. 3749 01:20:00,715 --> 01:20:03,840 Um and then when we look at the 3750 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,619 the percentage of those victims 3751 01:20:05,619 --> 01:20:08,619 that are 16 to 17 that's that's 3752 01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:10,458 a third of all of those um 3753 01:20:10,458 --> 01:20:12,458 points of victimization. 3754 01:20:13,127 --> 01:20:14,227 And right there within the 3755 01:20:14,227 --> 01:20:15,228 space and I've had lots of 3756 01:20:15,228 --> 01:20:17,132 conversations with residents 3757 01:20:17,132 --> 01:20:19,200 and have received a lot of 3758 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,102 information um, and spoken with 3759 01:20:21,102 --> 01:20:23,638 folks but really within the 3760 01:20:23,638 --> 01:20:25,673 space of 16 and 17 is really 3761 01:20:25,673 --> 01:20:28,420 when you get in that gray area 3762 01:20:28,420 --> 01:20:29,810 where something can really 3763 01:20:29,810 --> 01:20:32,179 escalate off of something like 3764 01:20:32,179 --> 01:20:33,781 a curfew violation to some type 3765 01:20:33,781 --> 01:20:36,181 of violent interaction where 3766 01:20:36,451 --> 01:20:38,219 then you are deemed to give 3767 01:20:38,219 --> 01:20:40,121 that permission to the courts 3768 01:20:40,121 --> 01:20:40,388 to decide and exercise 3769 01:20:40,388 --> 01:20:42,388 judgment. 3770 01:20:42,657 --> 01:20:44,920 If a 17 year old should be 3771 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:45,627 charged as an adult or should 3772 01:20:45,627 --> 01:20:47,695 have the responsibility of an 3773 01:20:47,695 --> 01:20:49,297 adult, it just goes down into a 3774 01:20:49,297 --> 01:20:51,198 rabbit hole that I think we 3775 01:20:51,198 --> 01:20:52,467 need to be proactive as 3776 01:20:52,467 --> 01:20:54,467 municipal leaders about. 3777 01:20:55,604 --> 01:20:57,672 Um we also already have a 3778 01:20:57,672 --> 01:20:58,640 curfew ordinance so this is not 3779 01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:59,908 something that we're creating 3780 01:20:59,908 --> 01:21:01,943 from a greenfield perspective. 3781 01:21:01,943 --> 01:21:04,312 There is a curfew ordinance on 3782 01:21:04,312 --> 01:21:07,181 the books now and today 13 year 3783 01:21:07,181 --> 01:21:08,449 olds can stay out until 11 P.M. 3784 01:21:08,449 --> 01:21:09,718 And I love being outside. 3785 01:21:09,718 --> 01:21:11,620 When I was a young kid and had 3786 01:21:11,620 --> 01:21:12,721 a bicycle and want to do all 3787 01:21:12,721 --> 01:21:16,921 that kind of stuff but you know 3788 01:21:17,592 --> 01:21:19,828 ,it's 1045 11:00 a time for a 3789 01:21:19,828 --> 01:21:20,162 13 or 14 year old to play 3790 01:21:20,162 --> 01:21:22,162 unsupervised. 3791 01:21:22,664 --> 01:21:25,330 Um, that's really a question 3792 01:21:25,330 --> 01:21:27,269 around are we exposing them to 3793 01:21:27,269 --> 01:21:27,536 higher uh, moments of 3794 01:21:27,536 --> 01:21:29,536 potential. 3795 01:21:29,638 --> 01:21:31,707 Victimization or can we do 3796 01:21:31,707 --> 01:21:32,374 something protective to ensure 3797 01:21:32,374 --> 01:21:34,374 that, um. 3798 01:21:35,177 --> 01:21:37,546 Anything we're doing as a city 3799 01:21:37,546 --> 01:21:39,147 council would help protect them 3800 01:21:39,147 --> 01:21:39,514 and give their parents 3801 01:21:39,514 --> 01:21:41,514 opportunities. 3802 01:21:42,150 --> 01:21:43,952 So in closing, you know, this 3803 01:21:43,952 --> 01:21:45,922 is our, uh, first conversation. 3804 01:21:45,922 --> 01:21:48,157 Of course we'll come back to 3805 01:21:48,157 --> 01:21:48,958 council to, um, answer some of 3806 01:21:48,958 --> 01:21:50,958 these questions. 3807 01:21:51,127 --> 01:21:52,428 But I would also encourage 3808 01:21:52,428 --> 01:21:54,428 council if you. 3809 01:21:54,763 --> 01:21:55,898 Didn't see or view or 3810 01:21:55,898 --> 01:21:57,632 participate in the public 3811 01:21:57,632 --> 01:21:58,767 safety committee meeting, you 3812 01:21:58,767 --> 01:21:59,902 know, go back and review 3813 01:21:59,902 --> 01:22:01,300 several of you were there and 3814 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:03,206 thank you for your engagement. 3815 01:22:03,206 --> 01:22:04,640 But this is a really important 3816 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:05,842 topic and it's it's I think 3817 01:22:05,842 --> 01:22:06,976 it's going to be difficult to 3818 01:22:06,976 --> 01:22:09,311 appease every single person. 3819 01:22:09,311 --> 01:22:12,148 But as we've heard six youth 3820 01:22:12,148 --> 01:22:12,514 have lost their life due to gun 3821 01:22:12,514 --> 01:22:14,514 violence. 3822 01:22:14,850 --> 01:22:17,520 I think that's one too many and 3823 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,289 clearly 600% too many and we 3824 01:22:19,289 --> 01:22:20,924 have to create spaces of course 3825 01:22:20,924 --> 01:22:21,570 in third spaces and collaborate 3826 01:22:21,570 --> 01:22:22,625 . 3827 01:22:22,625 --> 01:22:24,861 But really and truly the onus 3828 01:22:24,861 --> 01:22:25,328 is on us under our charter and. 3829 01:22:25,328 --> 01:22:27,197 >> our. 3830 01:22:27,197 --> 01:22:28,631 Purview as a city council of 3831 01:22:28,631 --> 01:22:30,232 charlotte, north carolina to do 3832 01:22:30,232 --> 01:22:31,330 as much as we can to protect 3833 01:22:31,330 --> 01:22:31,968 our young people. 3834 01:22:31,968 --> 01:22:33,202 Thank you mayor. 3835 01:22:33,202 --> 01:22:34,337 Thank you, council member 3836 01:22:34,337 --> 01:22:35,438 anderson I know there are 3837 01:22:35,438 --> 01:22:35,705 others who MAY want to make 3838 01:22:35,705 --> 01:22:37,307 comments. 3839 01:22:37,307 --> 01:22:38,742 We have had a chance for 3840 01:22:38,742 --> 01:22:38,942 everyone to make one comment or 3841 01:22:38,942 --> 01:22:40,510 ask. 3842 01:22:40,510 --> 01:22:40,977 To have one set of comments. 3843 01:22:40,977 --> 01:22:42,646 Or ask. 3844 01:22:42,646 --> 01:22:43,580 >> questions and so I want to. 3845 01:22:43,580 --> 01:22:44,614 Hold it there because I know 3846 01:22:44,614 --> 01:22:45,415 this is going to come back to 3847 01:22:45,415 --> 01:22:47,450 us in some form. 3848 01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:48,451 Um, but I want to make sure 3849 01:22:48,451 --> 01:22:48,985 that we are evenhanded. 3850 01:22:48,985 --> 01:22:50,854 >> and how. 3851 01:22:50,854 --> 01:22:51,120 >> we have the round of 3852 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,120 questions. 3853 01:22:53,389 --> 01:22:54,791 Um great discussion. 3854 01:22:54,791 --> 01:22:55,425 Important issue as council 3855 01:22:55,425 --> 01:22:56,993 member johnson has said. 3856 01:22:56,993 --> 01:22:57,794 Uh, chief patterson. 3857 01:22:57,794 --> 01:22:58,262 Thank you very much. 3858 01:22:58,262 --> 01:23:00,970 Are there. 3859 01:23:00,970 --> 01:23:00,931 Any final comments that. 3860 01:23:00,931 --> 01:23:01,698 >> you'd like to make? 3861 01:23:01,698 --> 01:23:02,299 >> no, that is it. 3862 01:23:02,299 --> 01:23:02,799 Thank you MR. Mayor. 3863 01:23:02,799 --> 01:23:04,201 Thank you council. 3864 01:23:04,201 --> 01:23:05,902 Thank you very much. 3865 01:23:05,902 --> 01:23:07,137 All right. 3866 01:23:07,137 --> 01:23:07,670 I think we're going to flex a 3867 01:23:07,670 --> 01:23:09,670 little bit and. 3868 01:23:09,706 --> 01:23:10,507 Skip down to the parking and 3869 01:23:10,507 --> 01:23:12,507 sidewalk ordinance. 3870 01:23:12,843 --> 01:23:14,745 Uh, revision uh if manager if 3871 01:23:14,745 --> 01:23:15,245 that's okay with you, uh, and 3872 01:23:15,245 --> 01:23:17,245 we will hold. 3873 01:23:17,748 --> 01:23:20,284 The other item uh, until your 3874 01:23:20,284 --> 01:23:20,584 uh, report during the session 3875 01:23:20,584 --> 01:23:22,386 downstairs. 3876 01:23:22,386 --> 01:23:24,386 Absolutely. 3877 01:23:25,789 --> 01:23:28,458 >> and mayor and members of 3878 01:23:28,458 --> 01:23:29,427 council before I turn it over 3879 01:23:29,427 --> 01:23:30,995 to council member. 3880 01:23:30,995 --> 01:23:32,730 Graham I. 3881 01:23:32,730 --> 01:23:35,700 I do want to make. 3882 01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:37,602 If we could uh if folks could 3883 01:23:37,602 --> 01:23:38,402 please we're um we've got 3884 01:23:38,402 --> 01:23:39,803 limited time. 3885 01:23:39,803 --> 01:23:40,470 Please be as quiet as you can 3886 01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:42,339 exiting and moving around. 3887 01:23:42,339 --> 01:23:43,600 Uh, and if council would give 3888 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:44,107 attention to the manager. 3889 01:23:44,107 --> 01:23:44,541 Thank you. 3890 01:23:44,541 --> 01:23:44,808 >> mayor. 3891 01:23:44,808 --> 01:23:45,108 Friend. 3892 01:23:45,108 --> 01:23:46,210 Uh. 3893 01:23:46,210 --> 01:23:46,630 >> mayor members of council 3894 01:23:46,630 --> 01:23:48,630 before I. 3895 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,140 Turn it over to council member 3896 01:23:50,140 --> 01:23:50,615 graham. 3897 01:23:50,615 --> 01:23:51,515 For the. 3898 01:23:51,515 --> 01:23:52,216 >> sidewalk parking. 3899 01:23:52,216 --> 01:23:53,384 I do want to. 3900 01:23:53,384 --> 01:23:54,118 >> make sure I mention one 3901 01:23:54,118 --> 01:23:55,486 thing about the collaboration 3902 01:23:55,486 --> 01:23:56,120 between the city, the county 3903 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:56,587 and the school system. 3904 01:23:56,587 --> 01:23:57,988 Uh. 3905 01:23:57,988 --> 01:23:59,256 >> county manager. 3906 01:23:59,256 --> 01:24:00,524 Uh, brian is out of town and 3907 01:24:00,524 --> 01:24:01,625 I'd hate for him to come back. 3908 01:24:01,625 --> 01:24:03,625 And, um. 3909 01:24:04,295 --> 01:24:06,364 Me not at least say that, uh, 3910 01:24:06,364 --> 01:24:09,200 doctor stewart and dcm hafner 3911 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,235 have been working with cms 3912 01:24:11,235 --> 01:24:12,837 staff as well as the county 3913 01:24:12,837 --> 01:24:13,370 staff specifically nick walker 3914 01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:13,971 . 3915 01:24:13,971 --> 01:24:15,139 Who's the. 3916 01:24:15,139 --> 01:24:16,574 >> parks and rec director for 3917 01:24:16,574 --> 01:24:17,541 many of the questions that 3918 01:24:17,541 --> 01:24:18,476 you've had tonight. 3919 01:24:18,476 --> 01:24:20,211 Um. 3920 01:24:20,211 --> 01:24:21,947 >> for us to have different 3921 01:24:21,947 --> 01:24:23,248 schedules with different camps 3922 01:24:23,248 --> 01:24:24,983 and things like that, it's just 3923 01:24:24,983 --> 01:24:27,185 not a great way to operate. 3924 01:24:27,185 --> 01:24:28,920 So uh they have been working on 3925 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,555 that for a while and. 3926 01:24:30,555 --> 01:24:31,220 So uh, more to come with that. 3927 01:24:31,220 --> 01:24:32,123 Thanks. 3928 01:24:32,123 --> 01:24:34,123 >> council member gray. 3929 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,295 Thank you, MR. Mayor. 3930 01:24:37,295 --> 01:24:38,863 Um, uh, entering community 3931 01:24:38,863 --> 01:24:40,863 relations director terry 3932 01:24:41,232 --> 01:24:43,168 bradshaw and the assistant city 3933 01:24:43,168 --> 01:24:44,736 attorney presented a proposal 3934 01:24:44,736 --> 01:24:46,671 ordinance amendment addressing 3935 01:24:46,671 --> 01:24:47,939 sidewalk parking asking the 3936 01:24:47,939 --> 01:24:49,207 committee to advance it to the 3937 01:24:49,207 --> 01:24:51,109 full council because our time 3938 01:24:51,109 --> 01:24:52,110 sensitive nature uh, MR. 3939 01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:53,770 Bradley explained that the 3940 01:24:53,770 --> 01:24:55,280 issue was identified through 3941 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,182 the city's um, americans with 3942 01:24:57,182 --> 01:24:58,784 disabilities act ada program 3943 01:24:58,784 --> 01:25:00,686 after staff recognized and 3944 01:25:00,686 --> 01:25:02,686 operational camp conflicting 3945 01:25:03,222 --> 01:25:05,757 language in the city code of 3946 01:25:05,757 --> 01:25:08,126 ordinance uh the action is the 3947 01:25:08,126 --> 01:25:10,295 council the committee rather uh 3948 01:25:10,295 --> 01:25:13,295 made a recommendation to the 3949 01:25:13,765 --> 01:25:15,434 full council to um amend the um 3950 01:25:15,434 --> 01:25:17,102 the ordinance for consideration 3951 01:25:17,102 --> 01:25:18,504 at the AUGUST 10th meeting. 3952 01:25:18,504 --> 01:25:20,439 And so they're here to provide 3953 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,341 an overview of that uh, meeting 3954 01:25:22,341 --> 01:25:23,242 that we had uh, with the budget 3955 01:25:23,242 --> 01:25:25,242 and governance committee. 3956 01:25:26,578 --> 01:25:29,578 Um, MR. Attorney, MR. Brantley. 3957 01:25:39,558 --> 01:25:39,859 So good evening. 3958 01:25:39,859 --> 01:25:41,127 I think. 3959 01:25:41,127 --> 01:25:43,127 Of this, uh. 3960 01:25:43,162 --> 01:25:43,595 Um good evening. 3961 01:25:43,595 --> 01:25:44,697 >> um. 3962 01:25:44,697 --> 01:25:45,564 MR. Mayor, um. 3963 01:25:45,564 --> 01:25:46,265 Members of. 3964 01:25:46,265 --> 01:25:47,320 >> council and. 3965 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:48,000 MR. Manager. 3966 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,302 Uh. 3967 01:25:49,302 --> 01:25:51,371 >> I'm here as the interim 3968 01:25:51,371 --> 01:25:51,738 director of community relations 3969 01:25:51,738 --> 01:25:52,710 department and. 3970 01:25:52,710 --> 01:25:52,438 >> the. 3971 01:25:52,438 --> 01:25:53,206 City of. 3972 01:25:53,206 --> 01:25:53,973 >> charlotte ada. 3973 01:25:53,973 --> 01:25:55,775 Um. 3974 01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:56,776 >> um, coordinator I'm here 3975 01:25:56,776 --> 01:25:57,376 this evening just to briefly. 3976 01:25:57,376 --> 01:25:58,100 >> give you some. 3977 01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:00,100 Context. 3978 01:26:00,460 --> 01:26:01,514 >> um, over the sidewalk. 3979 01:26:01,514 --> 01:26:01,847 Obstruction that we wanted to. 3980 01:26:01,847 --> 01:26:03,150 >> kind. 3981 01:26:03,150 --> 01:26:03,616 Of bring to your attention. 3982 01:26:03,616 --> 01:26:05,184 Um, the. 3983 01:26:05,184 --> 01:26:05,985 >> parking ordinance amendment 3984 01:26:05,985 --> 01:26:06,586 that you're about to hear. 3985 01:26:06,586 --> 01:26:08,586 From our. 3986 01:26:08,755 --> 01:26:09,890 >> city attorney's office, um, 3987 01:26:09,890 --> 01:26:09,555 is. 3988 01:26:09,555 --> 01:26:10,123 Um, an. 3989 01:26:10,123 --> 01:26:11,240 Issue that. 3990 01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:12,125 >> really impacts. 3991 01:26:12,125 --> 01:26:12,692 Um. 3992 01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:13,159 >> not just. 3993 01:26:13,159 --> 01:26:14,561 >> just the. 3994 01:26:14,561 --> 01:26:15,280 >> disability community. 3995 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:16,596 But. 3996 01:26:16,596 --> 01:26:17,630 >> uh, pedestrians. 3997 01:26:17,630 --> 01:26:18,640 Um. 3998 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,465 >> this is about safety. 3999 01:26:19,465 --> 01:26:20,266 Um, as we used. 4000 01:26:20,266 --> 01:26:22,134 Um, the. 4001 01:26:22,134 --> 01:26:23,836 sidewalk is a path of travel. 4002 01:26:23,836 --> 01:26:24,504 We're also looking at 4003 01:26:24,504 --> 01:26:25,706 opportunities where. 4004 01:26:25,706 --> 01:26:26,390 People have to step. 4005 01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:26,306 >> off. 4006 01:26:26,306 --> 01:26:27,730 The. 4007 01:26:27,730 --> 01:26:27,540 Curb to. 4008 01:26:27,540 --> 01:26:28,942 Get into. 4009 01:26:28,942 --> 01:26:29,409 Oncoming traffic and that's a. 4010 01:26:29,409 --> 01:26:30,510 Uh. 4011 01:26:30,510 --> 01:26:30,810 >> a safety. 4012 01:26:30,810 --> 01:26:32,780 Issue that. 4013 01:26:32,780 --> 01:26:33,130 >> we want to be mindful of. 4014 01:26:33,130 --> 01:26:34,581 Um. 4015 01:26:34,581 --> 01:26:35,682 >> so we we. 4016 01:26:35,682 --> 01:26:36,916 Get the complaint. 4017 01:26:36,916 --> 01:26:38,651 Um. 4018 01:26:38,651 --> 01:26:39,585 >> by way of it came to the. 4019 01:26:39,585 --> 01:26:41,287 Ada program. 4020 01:26:41,287 --> 01:26:43,524 And we met with different 4021 01:26:43,524 --> 01:26:45,559 departments um, that um. 4022 01:26:45,559 --> 01:26:45,726 We collaborated with with cmpd 4023 01:26:45,726 --> 01:26:46,526 . 4024 01:26:46,526 --> 01:26:48,526 As well as. 4025 01:26:48,562 --> 01:26:48,762 Cdot and other agencies to 4026 01:26:48,762 --> 01:26:49,620 kind. 4027 01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:49,429 >> of. 4028 01:26:49,429 --> 01:26:49,996 Talk about. 4029 01:26:49,996 --> 01:26:51,398 What are the. 4030 01:26:51,398 --> 01:26:51,631 Ways that we can kind of 4031 01:26:51,631 --> 01:26:51,998 resolve. 4032 01:26:51,998 --> 01:26:53,233 >> this. 4033 01:26:53,233 --> 01:26:56,350 Issue that's kind of ongoing. 4034 01:26:56,350 --> 01:26:57,303 Um, and with that, um, we came 4035 01:26:57,303 --> 01:26:57,670 up with something that was 4036 01:26:57,670 --> 01:26:58,138 probably. 4037 01:26:58,138 --> 01:26:59,206 Showing some. 4038 01:26:59,206 --> 01:27:00,775 Conflict in. 4039 01:27:00,775 --> 01:27:03,143 Um the language in the um in 4040 01:27:03,143 --> 01:27:04,111 the ordinance and we have our 4041 01:27:04,111 --> 01:27:04,678 senior attorney. 4042 01:27:04,678 --> 01:27:05,312 Lisa flowers is. 4043 01:27:05,312 --> 01:27:05,946 >> going to. 4044 01:27:05,946 --> 01:27:06,714 Walk us through. 4045 01:27:06,714 --> 01:27:08,415 Uh, what. 4046 01:27:08,415 --> 01:27:09,550 >> that language um, is and 4047 01:27:09,550 --> 01:27:10,150 what we were recommending that 4048 01:27:10,150 --> 01:27:10,817 it be changed to. 4049 01:27:10,817 --> 01:27:12,553 >> so with. 4050 01:27:12,553 --> 01:27:14,953 That, um, lisa flowers. 4051 01:27:20,695 --> 01:27:21,462 good evening. 4052 01:27:21,462 --> 01:27:23,462 Mayor council. 4053 01:27:23,497 --> 01:27:23,664 Um. 4054 01:27:23,664 --> 01:27:24,131 . 4055 01:27:24,131 --> 01:27:24,598 Manager's office. 4056 01:27:24,598 --> 01:27:25,566 And others. 4057 01:27:25,566 --> 01:27:26,330 In the room. 4058 01:27:26,330 --> 01:27:27,267 Um. 4059 01:27:27,267 --> 01:27:28,202 >> so as. 4060 01:27:28,202 --> 01:27:28,669 >> terry mentioned, this. 4061 01:27:28,669 --> 01:27:30,700 Is about. 4062 01:27:30,700 --> 01:27:30,537 >> sidewalk parking. 4063 01:27:30,537 --> 01:27:32,139 Um. 4064 01:27:32,139 --> 01:27:33,206 >> our current. 4065 01:27:33,206 --> 01:27:34,642 Ordinance language. 4066 01:27:34,642 --> 01:27:35,643 Creates some challenges. 4067 01:27:35,643 --> 01:27:37,111 For enforcement. 4068 01:27:37,111 --> 01:27:38,212 Clarity and. 4069 01:27:38,212 --> 01:27:40,212 Community safety. 4070 01:27:41,150 --> 01:27:41,616 And so. 4071 01:27:41,616 --> 01:27:41,983 Why we're. 4072 01:27:41,983 --> 01:27:42,416 >> here. 4073 01:27:42,416 --> 01:27:44,416 Is the. 4074 01:27:45,860 --> 01:27:47,860 Pgr committee was. 4075 01:27:47,254 --> 01:27:47,621 Charged with reviewing the 4076 01:27:47,621 --> 01:27:49,156 ordinances. 4077 01:27:49,156 --> 01:27:49,957 And we found. 4078 01:27:49,957 --> 01:27:50,491 That two of. 4079 01:27:50,491 --> 01:27:51,125 >> the. 4080 01:27:51,125 --> 01:27:52,930 Ordinances that. 4081 01:27:52,930 --> 01:27:53,940 >> speak to sidewalk. 4082 01:27:53,940 --> 01:27:53,795 Parking were. 4083 01:27:53,795 --> 01:27:54,950 >> not fully. 4084 01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:56,950 Aligned. 4085 01:27:57,632 --> 01:27:58,333 >> and so why is this. 4086 01:27:58,333 --> 01:27:59,567 >> a problem? 4087 01:27:59,567 --> 01:28:01,567 Um. 4088 01:28:02,370 --> 01:28:03,237 >> it MAY seem like a small. 4089 01:28:03,237 --> 01:28:03,771 Nuisance but as. 4090 01:28:03,771 --> 01:28:04,572 Terry mentioned it. 4091 01:28:04,572 --> 01:28:05,973 Can cause. 4092 01:28:05,973 --> 01:28:07,141 Um problems for. 4093 01:28:07,141 --> 01:28:08,476 Our disability community. 4094 01:28:08,476 --> 01:28:08,777 Um. 4095 01:28:08,777 --> 01:28:09,344 Even if. 4096 01:28:09,344 --> 01:28:09,811 >> a. 4097 01:28:09,811 --> 01:28:10,678 Vehicle is. 4098 01:28:10,678 --> 01:28:11,146 Partially obstructing. 4099 01:28:11,146 --> 01:28:12,680 >> a. 4100 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:13,148 Sidewalk it can. 4101 01:28:13,148 --> 01:28:14,583 create a. 4102 01:28:14,583 --> 01:28:16,583 Complete barrier to. 4103 01:28:16,618 --> 01:28:19,180 Someone in a wheelchair. 4104 01:28:19,254 --> 01:28:22,254 Um, somebody pushing a, uh, 4105 01:28:22,256 --> 01:28:23,524 stroller or someone just trying 4106 01:28:23,524 --> 01:28:24,626 to walk down the street to. 4107 01:28:24,626 --> 01:28:26,626 Safely. 4108 01:28:26,828 --> 01:28:26,995 >> also sidewalks are part of 4109 01:28:26,995 --> 01:28:28,300 our. 4110 01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:30,430 >> right of way system. 4111 01:28:30,666 --> 01:28:31,330 And vehicles creeping into that 4112 01:28:31,330 --> 01:28:32,434 pedestrian. 4113 01:28:32,434 --> 01:28:33,135 Zone sort. 4114 01:28:33,135 --> 01:28:34,469 >> of breaks. 4115 01:28:34,469 --> 01:28:34,769 Down the function of that 4116 01:28:34,769 --> 01:28:35,570 pedestrian. 4117 01:28:35,570 --> 01:28:37,570 Zone. 4118 01:28:41,420 --> 01:28:43,420 >> the impacts. 4119 01:28:44,647 --> 01:28:45,581 Um, is if the. 4120 01:28:45,581 --> 01:28:47,449 Sidewalks not. 4121 01:28:47,449 --> 01:28:48,750 >> usable then pedestrians end 4122 01:28:48,750 --> 01:28:49,840 up in the street and this is 4123 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,652 especially. 4124 01:28:50,652 --> 01:28:52,521 Risky for. 4125 01:28:52,521 --> 01:28:54,921 Kids and the elderly. 4126 01:28:56,725 --> 01:28:57,920 But then there's also broader 4127 01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,493 policy. 4128 01:28:58,493 --> 01:28:58,960 Implications sends the. 4129 01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,461 Message that. 4130 01:28:59,461 --> 01:29:01,290 >> our. 4131 01:29:01,290 --> 01:29:03,290 Pedestrian zone secondary. 4132 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:03,799 We lose. 4133 01:29:03,799 --> 01:29:04,600 >> that sense of. 4134 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,600 Neighborhood connectivity. 4135 01:29:07,236 --> 01:29:07,703 And then as as we've already. 4136 01:29:07,703 --> 01:29:08,704 Mentioned the. 4137 01:29:08,704 --> 01:29:09,738 Ada compliance. 4138 01:29:09,738 --> 01:29:10,973 Issue if. 4139 01:29:10,973 --> 01:29:11,573 The sidewalk. 4140 01:29:11,573 --> 01:29:12,174 >> is blocked. 4141 01:29:12,174 --> 01:29:13,742 It's inaccessible. 4142 01:29:13,742 --> 01:29:14,760 To individuals with 4143 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,760 disabilities. 4144 01:29:16,111 --> 01:29:17,450 Also it damages the sidewalks. 4145 01:29:17,450 --> 01:29:17,579 >> our sidewalks. 4146 01:29:17,579 --> 01:29:19,579 >> are not. 4147 01:29:20,820 --> 01:29:22,585 Made to be to handle vehicles. 4148 01:29:22,585 --> 01:29:23,686 And so it can cause an. 4149 01:29:23,686 --> 01:29:24,620 Increased cost to. 4150 01:29:24,620 --> 01:29:26,620 The city. 4151 01:29:27,123 --> 01:29:29,523 for and work time. 4152 01:29:30,426 --> 01:29:30,593 So these are the two provisions 4153 01:29:30,593 --> 01:29:32,593 . 4154 01:29:34,330 --> 01:29:34,530 Groups did not go there you go 4155 01:29:34,530 --> 01:29:36,530 . 4156 01:29:36,566 --> 01:29:39,202 These are the two ordinance. 4157 01:29:39,202 --> 01:29:40,300 Provisions um that address 4158 01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:41,104 sidewalk parking. 4159 01:29:41,104 --> 01:29:43,104 And they both. 4160 01:29:43,473 --> 01:29:43,739 Prohibit parking on the 4161 01:29:43,739 --> 01:29:45,400 sidewalks. 4162 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,142 >> but 114 dash. 4163 01:29:46,142 --> 01:29:47,543 130 has an exception. 4164 01:29:47,543 --> 01:29:49,543 For driveways. 4165 01:29:50,513 --> 01:29:50,980 And because they. 4166 01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:51,180 >> don't. 4167 01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:53,180 Align. 4168 01:29:53,950 --> 01:29:54,840 >> uh. 4169 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:54,384 . 4170 01:29:54,384 --> 01:29:55,619 That. 4171 01:29:55,619 --> 01:29:57,619 Risks inconsistent. 4172 01:29:58,121 --> 01:29:59,689 Enforcement and potential uh. 4173 01:29:59,689 --> 01:30:01,689 Citation disputes. 4174 01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:06,529 So to eliminate. 4175 01:30:06,529 --> 01:30:08,640 >> the. 4176 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:08,665 Simplest way. 4177 01:30:08,665 --> 01:30:09,598 Was just. 4178 01:30:09,598 --> 01:30:11,330 To eliminate that. 4179 01:30:11,330 --> 01:30:12,236 Uh. 4180 01:30:12,236 --> 01:30:13,136 >> exception from. 4181 01:30:13,136 --> 01:30:13,604 >> 14 dash. 4182 01:30:13,604 --> 01:30:15,604 130. 4183 01:30:16,106 --> 01:30:17,400 >> this um, clarifies that. 4184 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,742 Parking is. 4185 01:30:18,742 --> 01:30:19,109 Not allowed at all on the 4186 01:30:19,109 --> 01:30:19,876 sidewalk. 4187 01:30:19,876 --> 01:30:21,611 >> makes a clear just. 4188 01:30:21,611 --> 01:30:22,612 Standard um. 4189 01:30:22,612 --> 01:30:23,120 Makes enforcement. 4190 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,120 Easier. 4191 01:30:25,348 --> 01:30:25,648 >> improves consistency and 4192 01:30:25,648 --> 01:30:26,150 strengthens. 4193 01:30:26,150 --> 01:30:27,160 >> our. 4194 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,160 Accessibility. 4195 01:30:30,540 --> 01:30:32,540 >> so this shows. 4196 01:30:32,723 --> 01:30:33,657 And the. 4197 01:30:33,657 --> 01:30:33,991 Committee did vote. 4198 01:30:33,991 --> 01:30:34,357 >> to. 4199 01:30:34,357 --> 01:30:36,357 Send this. 4200 01:30:37,327 --> 01:30:38,762 Uh, approve this change to send 4201 01:30:38,762 --> 01:30:39,129 it to this full council and 4202 01:30:39,129 --> 01:30:39,429 this. 4203 01:30:39,429 --> 01:30:40,630 >> is. 4204 01:30:40,630 --> 01:30:40,530 The change. 4205 01:30:40,530 --> 01:30:41,364 Basically just. 4206 01:30:41,364 --> 01:30:42,566 >> to eliminate. 4207 01:30:42,566 --> 01:30:43,800 That exception. 4208 01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:44,434 Language everything else. 4209 01:30:44,434 --> 01:30:46,200 Stays the same. 4210 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,200 >> and 14 dash 130. 4211 01:30:49,106 --> 01:30:49,773 And I'll take any questions. 4212 01:30:49,773 --> 01:30:50,207 >> if anybody. 4213 01:30:50,207 --> 01:30:52,207 Has any. 4214 01:30:52,543 --> 01:30:54,543 Questions questions. 4215 01:30:55,979 --> 01:30:56,980 Council member johnson or 4216 01:30:56,980 --> 01:30:58,980 council member mayfield. 4217 01:30:59,783 --> 01:31:00,851 Thank you mayor. 4218 01:31:00,851 --> 01:31:01,651 . 4219 01:31:01,651 --> 01:31:03,119 Thank you for. 4220 01:31:03,119 --> 01:31:05,119 The presentation. 4221 01:31:05,857 --> 01:31:06,991 So the only question I'm gonna 4222 01:31:06,991 --> 01:31:07,191 ask for this particular example 4223 01:31:07,191 --> 01:31:09,600 is. 4224 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,600 Delivery drivers. 4225 01:31:13,264 --> 01:31:13,631 So ups doesn't pull into 4226 01:31:13,631 --> 01:31:14,565 residential. 4227 01:31:14,565 --> 01:31:16,133 Homes anymore. 4228 01:31:16,133 --> 01:31:18,602 We have a lot of area. 4229 01:31:18,602 --> 01:31:20,470 Where the sidewalk. 4230 01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:22,273 Is right up on the street. 4231 01:31:22,273 --> 01:31:23,107 They don't pull into the 4232 01:31:23,107 --> 01:31:25,443 driveway so they pull. 4233 01:31:25,443 --> 01:31:25,643 Literally pull up on sidewalks 4234 01:31:25,643 --> 01:31:27,450 . 4235 01:31:27,450 --> 01:31:27,678 In order. 4236 01:31:27,678 --> 01:31:29,678 To not. 4237 01:31:30,314 --> 01:31:30,982 Be in traffic because it's one 4238 01:31:30,982 --> 01:31:32,683 way so. 4239 01:31:32,683 --> 01:31:33,500 Whether it's ups or other some 4240 01:31:33,500 --> 01:31:34,918 some other. 4241 01:31:34,918 --> 01:31:35,119 Large vehicle how does this 4242 01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:37,119 apply. 4243 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,550 To delivery. 4244 01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:40,550 And or pickup. 4245 01:31:40,558 --> 01:31:42,760 Services in the city? 4246 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,280 When we do a lot of we have a 4247 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:44,662 lot of services that do. 4248 01:31:44,662 --> 01:31:46,662 That today. 4249 01:31:47,310 --> 01:31:47,198 Technically that's a violation 4250 01:31:47,198 --> 01:31:49,198 but. 4251 01:31:49,534 --> 01:31:51,569 um, if it's if it's a. 4252 01:31:51,569 --> 01:31:53,137 Temporary uh. 4253 01:31:53,137 --> 01:31:55,500 Issue I don't think it would. 4254 01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:55,706 Cause a concern. 4255 01:31:55,706 --> 01:31:57,109 >> as much. 4256 01:31:57,109 --> 01:31:57,576 We do have the concern of. 4257 01:31:57,576 --> 01:31:59,144 >> it. 4258 01:31:59,144 --> 01:32:01,479 Being on the the. 4259 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:01,679 Sidewalk. 4260 01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:01,980 . 4261 01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:03,980 But. 4262 01:32:04,150 --> 01:32:04,783 Uh, just. 4263 01:32:04,783 --> 01:32:05,517 >> a temporary. 4264 01:32:05,517 --> 01:32:06,117 Measure and then. 4265 01:32:06,117 --> 01:32:07,218 And then. 4266 01:32:07,218 --> 01:32:08,190 >> they're delivering a. 4267 01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:08,686 Package and leaving. 4268 01:32:08,686 --> 01:32:08,853 >> I think. 4269 01:32:08,853 --> 01:32:09,654 Uh. 4270 01:32:09,654 --> 01:32:10,588 >> it'd be. 4271 01:32:10,588 --> 01:32:11,522 Difficult to catch that. 4272 01:32:11,522 --> 01:32:12,790 For one. 4273 01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:14,790 But, um. 4274 01:32:16,194 --> 01:32:17,290 So you're what I'm thinking and 4275 01:32:17,290 --> 01:32:18,730 could please. 4276 01:32:18,730 --> 01:32:19,970 Correct me if, um if this is 4277 01:32:19,970 --> 01:32:20,310 accurate. 4278 01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:20,799 . 4279 01:32:20,799 --> 01:32:23,199 >> what you all are. 4280 01:32:23,301 --> 01:32:23,702 Anticipating is in residential 4281 01:32:23,702 --> 01:32:24,736 neighborhood when. 4282 01:32:24,736 --> 01:32:26,137 >> you have people that. 4283 01:32:26,137 --> 01:32:27,706 Are visiting or you. 4284 01:32:27,706 --> 01:32:30,106 Have a have a. 4285 01:32:30,375 --> 01:32:31,900 Vehicle overnight or for an 4286 01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:32,111 extended period of. 4287 01:32:32,111 --> 01:32:33,679 Time where they're. 4288 01:32:33,679 --> 01:32:36,140 You got a small. 4289 01:32:36,140 --> 01:32:37,282 Driveway that's made. 4290 01:32:37,282 --> 01:32:37,482 >> for two vehicles but you 4291 01:32:37,482 --> 01:32:39,482 have. 4292 01:32:39,585 --> 01:32:40,852 Three or more vehicles so they 4293 01:32:40,852 --> 01:32:42,454 are blocking the actual 4294 01:32:42,454 --> 01:32:44,356 sidewalk instead of either 4295 01:32:44,356 --> 01:32:45,157 parking on the street or in the 4296 01:32:45,157 --> 01:32:47,125 designated driveway. 4297 01:32:47,125 --> 01:32:47,358 That's what you're anticipating 4298 01:32:47,358 --> 01:32:47,692 correct? 4299 01:32:47,692 --> 01:32:49,692 Thank you. 4300 01:32:49,896 --> 01:32:50,997 >> thank you council member 4301 01:32:50,997 --> 01:32:51,197 mayfield council member johnson 4302 01:32:51,197 --> 01:32:53,650 . 4303 01:32:53,650 --> 01:32:54,500 Thank you mayor. 4304 01:32:54,500 --> 01:32:56,500 So the purpose. 4305 01:32:58,370 --> 01:32:58,671 >> of this is to serve 4306 01:32:58,671 --> 01:33:00,139 individuals. 4307 01:33:00,139 --> 01:33:00,606 Um who are and. 4308 01:33:00,606 --> 01:33:02,400 Like have. 4309 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:02,708 >> mobility challenges. 4310 01:33:02,708 --> 01:33:04,109 >> is that. 4311 01:33:04,109 --> 01:33:05,430 The purpose of doing this. 4312 01:33:05,430 --> 01:33:05,711 ? 4313 01:33:05,711 --> 01:33:07,180 >> it's for everybody. 4314 01:33:07,180 --> 01:33:08,581 >> but it did come in through. 4315 01:33:08,581 --> 01:33:09,115 Uh a complaint. 4316 01:33:09,115 --> 01:33:10,216 >> an ada. 4317 01:33:10,216 --> 01:33:11,183 Complaint okay. 4318 01:33:11,183 --> 01:33:13,183 An ada complaint. 4319 01:33:14,287 --> 01:33:15,254 So there there's a term I was 4320 01:33:15,254 --> 01:33:17,289 talking to a developer today 4321 01:33:17,289 --> 01:33:17,656 and he used the term drive 4322 01:33:17,656 --> 01:33:19,656 appearance. 4323 01:33:19,992 --> 01:33:20,259 I think those are shorter 4324 01:33:20,259 --> 01:33:21,126 driveways. 4325 01:33:21,126 --> 01:33:23,126 Um. 4326 01:33:23,161 --> 01:33:23,763 >> so I'd like. 4327 01:33:23,763 --> 01:33:25,331 To hear from. 4328 01:33:25,331 --> 01:33:27,660 Planning if we could. 4329 01:33:27,660 --> 01:33:27,667 If that's. 4330 01:33:27,667 --> 01:33:28,340 >> a thing. 4331 01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:28,401 >> are we. 4332 01:33:28,401 --> 01:33:29,936 Moving towards. 4333 01:33:29,936 --> 01:33:31,537 Shorter driveways in the city 4334 01:33:31,537 --> 01:33:33,406 if there's, um what's the. 4335 01:33:33,406 --> 01:33:33,639 Requirement for the driveway 4336 01:33:33,639 --> 01:33:34,540 length? 4337 01:33:34,540 --> 01:33:35,174 Um. 4338 01:33:35,174 --> 01:33:36,876 >> because if. 4339 01:33:36,876 --> 01:33:38,100 >> we're allowing shorter 4340 01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:40,100 driveways, drive aprons. 4341 01:33:40,450 --> 01:33:41,615 This seems like the conflict. 4342 01:33:41,615 --> 01:33:43,950 In what we're building. 4343 01:33:43,950 --> 01:33:44,117 And what we're trying to solve 4344 01:33:44,117 --> 01:33:46,117 . 4345 01:33:47,253 --> 01:33:47,620 Also does this apply to defined 4346 01:33:47,620 --> 01:33:49,255 vehicles? 4347 01:33:49,255 --> 01:33:51,123 Does it apply to scooters. 4348 01:33:51,123 --> 01:33:52,825 On sidewalks? 4349 01:33:52,825 --> 01:33:54,894 It it does not. 4350 01:33:54,894 --> 01:33:55,610 Apply to scooters on sidewalks 4351 01:33:55,610 --> 01:33:55,528 . 4352 01:33:55,528 --> 01:33:56,620 There's the. 4353 01:33:56,620 --> 01:33:57,630 There's an. 4354 01:33:57,630 --> 01:33:59,199 >> exception it's a. 4355 01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:00,600 Well if you look at the. 4356 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:01,680 251 it. 4357 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,680 Mentions in. 4358 01:34:03,570 --> 01:34:04,137 >> 14 dash 130 um. 4359 01:34:04,137 --> 01:34:04,738 That it. 4360 01:34:04,738 --> 01:34:06,600 >> does not. 4361 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,600 Include um. 4362 01:34:09,109 --> 01:34:10,510 E-bikes and. 4363 01:34:10,510 --> 01:34:11,770 Scooters except. 4364 01:34:11,770 --> 01:34:11,711 >> for. 4365 01:34:11,711 --> 01:34:12,479 14 two and. 4366 01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:13,580 51 does. 4367 01:34:13,580 --> 01:34:14,447 Prohibit them. 4368 01:34:14,447 --> 01:34:14,847 >> from parking on the 4369 01:34:14,847 --> 01:34:15,181 sidewalks in a. 4370 01:34:15,181 --> 01:34:15,648 Certain area. 4371 01:34:15,648 --> 01:34:16,283 >> of. 4372 01:34:16,283 --> 01:34:18,152 Uptown there's a. 4373 01:34:18,152 --> 01:34:18,619 Geo fenced. 4374 01:34:18,619 --> 01:34:19,860 Area in. 4375 01:34:19,860 --> 01:34:19,787 Uptown where. 4376 01:34:19,787 --> 01:34:20,154 >> they're not. 4377 01:34:20,154 --> 01:34:20,854 Allowed on. 4378 01:34:20,854 --> 01:34:22,823 >> the sidewalks. 4379 01:34:22,823 --> 01:34:24,891 So my concern and I was on a 4380 01:34:24,891 --> 01:34:26,193 call in uh, council member 4381 01:34:26,193 --> 01:34:27,461 mitchell was mayor pro tem was 4382 01:34:27,461 --> 01:34:29,620 on the call also and there was 4383 01:34:29,620 --> 01:34:30,664 a developer who said well, 4384 01:34:30,664 --> 01:34:31,164 they're inexpensive. 4385 01:34:31,164 --> 01:34:31,898 They only have. 4386 01:34:31,898 --> 01:34:32,532 >> one car garage. 4387 01:34:32,532 --> 01:34:34,101 Yeah. 4388 01:34:34,101 --> 01:34:34,568 So that's kind. 4389 01:34:34,568 --> 01:34:36,103 Of where. 4390 01:34:36,103 --> 01:34:36,670 Attainable housing. 4391 01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:37,604 >> is going. 4392 01:34:37,604 --> 01:34:39,173 Um, one call. 4393 01:34:39,173 --> 01:34:41,173 Car garage sure. 4394 01:34:41,675 --> 01:34:42,776 Shorter driveways. 4395 01:34:42,776 --> 01:34:43,544 Um and so. 4396 01:34:43,544 --> 01:34:44,811 People almost. 4397 01:34:44,811 --> 01:34:46,413 >> need to buy the one car 4398 01:34:46,413 --> 01:34:47,848 garage in order to be able to 4399 01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:50,183 afford to live here. 4400 01:34:50,183 --> 01:34:52,553 So if they're not allowed to 4401 01:34:52,553 --> 01:34:53,988 park in their driveway I think 4402 01:34:53,988 --> 01:34:54,188 I'd have a concerned about that 4403 01:34:54,188 --> 01:34:56,188 . 4404 01:34:56,357 --> 01:34:56,957 I'd rather see an exception in 4405 01:34:56,957 --> 01:34:58,659 someone's home in their. 4406 01:34:58,659 --> 01:34:59,160 Driveway because people have, 4407 01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,261 you know. 4408 01:35:00,261 --> 01:35:01,662 More than one car. 4409 01:35:01,662 --> 01:35:02,329 You know you have to have more 4410 01:35:02,329 --> 01:35:03,970 people in the house to. 4411 01:35:03,970 --> 01:35:03,731 Afford to live here. 4412 01:35:03,731 --> 01:35:05,731 Right? 4413 01:35:06,660 --> 01:35:06,300 So I think we have to be 4414 01:35:06,300 --> 01:35:06,800 careful. 4415 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,536 >> with that. 4416 01:35:08,536 --> 01:35:10,271 I'd rather see the the 4417 01:35:10,271 --> 01:35:12,671 exception for scooters being 4418 01:35:12,807 --> 01:35:13,608 parked on the driveway than not 4419 01:35:13,608 --> 01:35:15,109 being able to park. 4420 01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:16,978 >> in your own driveway. 4421 01:35:16,978 --> 01:35:18,312 They can still park. 4422 01:35:18,312 --> 01:35:18,646 >> in their driveway they just. 4423 01:35:18,646 --> 01:35:19,130 >> need. 4424 01:35:19,130 --> 01:35:19,313 To be. 4425 01:35:19,313 --> 01:35:19,881 Totally in. 4426 01:35:19,881 --> 01:35:20,648 >> their driveway. 4427 01:35:20,648 --> 01:35:21,480 What we're seeing like. 4428 01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:21,349 >> in. 4429 01:35:21,349 --> 01:35:21,916 This. 4430 01:35:21,916 --> 01:35:23,117 Particular neighborhood. 4431 01:35:23,117 --> 01:35:24,510 >> where we got the complaint. 4432 01:35:24,510 --> 01:35:25,152 Um. 4433 01:35:25,152 --> 01:35:25,619 >> is they. 4434 01:35:25,619 --> 01:35:26,388 Weren't pulling. 4435 01:35:26,388 --> 01:35:27,220 >> all the way. 4436 01:35:27,220 --> 01:35:27,622 Into their driveway. 4437 01:35:27,622 --> 01:35:28,890 They're just. 4438 01:35:28,890 --> 01:35:30,890 Stopping at. 4439 01:35:30,592 --> 01:35:31,726 >> the at the bottom where the 4440 01:35:31,726 --> 01:35:32,193 the sidewalk is. 4441 01:35:32,193 --> 01:35:34,128 And that. 4442 01:35:34,128 --> 01:35:35,630 >> is an ada violation. 4443 01:35:35,630 --> 01:35:37,630 Um uh. 4444 01:35:37,665 --> 01:35:38,599 If if the doj. 4445 01:35:38,599 --> 01:35:39,233 Were to come in. 4446 01:35:39,233 --> 01:35:39,700 They would. 4447 01:35:39,700 --> 01:35:41,102 Say that. 4448 01:35:41,102 --> 01:35:42,203 If we're not enforcing our. 4449 01:35:42,203 --> 01:35:43,137 Making our. 4450 01:35:43,137 --> 01:35:44,239 Sidewalks accessible. 4451 01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:45,474 i know there's. 4452 01:35:45,474 --> 01:35:47,375 >> a neighborhood in the itj 4453 01:35:47,375 --> 01:35:48,810 and they're not allowed to park 4454 01:35:48,810 --> 01:35:50,112 for their cars to block the 4455 01:35:50,112 --> 01:35:50,412 driveway, but it. 4456 01:35:50,412 --> 01:35:51,980 Really is. 4457 01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:52,180 >> problematic for the people 4458 01:35:52,180 --> 01:35:52,647 that. 4459 01:35:52,647 --> 01:35:53,715 Live there. 4460 01:35:53,715 --> 01:35:55,283 So okay. 4461 01:35:55,283 --> 01:35:57,283 Thank you. 4462 01:35:58,586 --> 01:35:58,886 Council member MR.. 4463 01:35:58,886 --> 01:36:00,455 Harris. 4464 01:36:00,455 --> 01:36:00,956 >> thank you. 4465 01:36:00,956 --> 01:36:01,190 >> mayor. 4466 01:36:01,190 --> 01:36:01,457 Uh. 4467 01:36:01,457 --> 01:36:01,657 >>. 4468 01:36:01,657 --> 01:36:02,391 Thank. 4469 01:36:02,391 --> 01:36:02,758 You so much for the 4470 01:36:02,758 --> 01:36:04,758 presentation. 4471 01:36:05,561 --> 01:36:06,662 Um, my. 4472 01:36:06,662 --> 01:36:08,230 Questions are aligned. 4473 01:36:08,230 --> 01:36:09,664 With council member mayfield 4474 01:36:09,664 --> 01:36:10,599 and council member johnson. 4475 01:36:10,599 --> 01:36:10,999 Uh, when. 4476 01:36:10,999 --> 01:36:11,433 >> it. 4477 01:36:11,433 --> 01:36:12,601 Comes to. 4478 01:36:12,601 --> 01:36:13,801 Social gatherings. 4479 01:36:13,801 --> 01:36:15,801 Um, that folks. 4480 01:36:16,905 --> 01:36:17,238 My host and I my concern is 4481 01:36:17,238 --> 01:36:17,572 particularly. 4482 01:36:17,572 --> 01:36:18,674 >> with. 4483 01:36:18,674 --> 01:36:20,242 The the speed. 4484 01:36:20,242 --> 01:36:22,111 Of us approving. 4485 01:36:22,111 --> 01:36:23,679 Rezonings for a townhome. 4486 01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:25,214 Um neighborhoods that have. 4487 01:36:25,214 --> 01:36:26,782 And colleagues. 4488 01:36:26,782 --> 01:36:26,982 Uh you all might remember we 4489 01:36:26,982 --> 01:36:28,830 have. 4490 01:36:28,830 --> 01:36:29,184 Some debate. 4491 01:36:29,184 --> 01:36:31,184 About the. 4492 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:31,686 >> length of the streets and 4493 01:36:31,686 --> 01:36:33,686 uh. 4494 01:36:33,722 --> 01:36:35,457 You know how many emergency. 4495 01:36:35,457 --> 01:36:37,526 Vehicles can come in and out 4496 01:36:37,526 --> 01:36:38,794 and whether there are enough 4497 01:36:38,794 --> 01:36:39,729 exits available for this? 4498 01:36:39,729 --> 01:36:40,429 Um. 4499 01:36:40,429 --> 01:36:41,630 >> and so I. 4500 01:36:41,630 --> 01:36:41,564 Think uh. 4501 01:36:41,564 --> 01:36:41,864 >> and. 4502 01:36:41,864 --> 01:36:42,765 This can. 4503 01:36:42,765 --> 01:36:43,699 >> be uh. 4504 01:36:43,699 --> 01:36:44,667 Answered offline. 4505 01:36:44,667 --> 01:36:45,734 Um. 4506 01:36:45,734 --> 01:36:47,636 >> you know, it's this. 4507 01:36:47,636 --> 01:36:48,237 Transitional uh. 4508 01:36:48,237 --> 01:36:49,171 We have the. 4509 01:36:49,171 --> 01:36:49,872 Mobility plan. 4510 01:36:49,872 --> 01:36:51,139 >> and the. 4511 01:36:51,139 --> 01:36:51,606 Sales tax that is coming. 4512 01:36:51,606 --> 01:36:53,543 Into effect. 4513 01:36:53,543 --> 01:36:55,211 Uh, I know we're. 4514 01:36:55,211 --> 01:36:56,913 Trying to transition uh. 4515 01:36:56,913 --> 01:36:57,713 Into becoming a less car 4516 01:36:57,713 --> 01:36:58,214 dependent city. 4517 01:36:58,214 --> 01:36:59,615 Uh. 4518 01:36:59,615 --> 01:37:00,550 >> but as well we are making. 4519 01:37:00,550 --> 01:37:02,550 Decisions. 4520 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:03,552 >> uh, vr zoning meetings where 4521 01:37:03,552 --> 01:37:04,620 we are. 4522 01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:05,721 Um. 4523 01:37:05,721 --> 01:37:06,655 >> uh, embracing. 4524 01:37:06,655 --> 01:37:08,655 High density. 4525 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:10,159 And and very narrow driveways 4526 01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:11,610 and narrow streets. 4527 01:37:11,610 --> 01:37:12,162 Um. 4528 01:37:12,162 --> 01:37:12,629 >> while at the same. 4529 01:37:12,629 --> 01:37:14,300 Time people. 4530 01:37:14,300 --> 01:37:14,864 Will continue to. 4531 01:37:14,864 --> 01:37:16,864 >> be gathering. 4532 01:37:17,633 --> 01:37:18,735 Um and so I'm wondering if if. 4533 01:37:18,735 --> 01:37:20,735 >> we're just. 4534 01:37:21,537 --> 01:37:22,472 Um I'm not sure I'm just uh. 4535 01:37:22,472 --> 01:37:22,738 I just have all those 4536 01:37:22,738 --> 01:37:23,606 questions. 4537 01:37:23,606 --> 01:37:24,730 To ask. 4538 01:37:24,730 --> 01:37:25,174 >> in. 4539 01:37:25,174 --> 01:37:27,343 Terms of like how does this 4540 01:37:27,343 --> 01:37:27,676 relate to infrastructure to our 4541 01:37:27,676 --> 01:37:28,779 planning? 4542 01:37:28,779 --> 01:37:29,713 Um, as well. 4543 01:37:29,713 --> 01:37:30,647 As is. 4544 01:37:30,647 --> 01:37:32,148 >> this a transitional. 4545 01:37:32,148 --> 01:37:33,616 Um, is there going. 4546 01:37:33,616 --> 01:37:34,551 >> to be a grace period uh. 4547 01:37:34,551 --> 01:37:35,652 If folks get. 4548 01:37:35,652 --> 01:37:36,520 Cited um. 4549 01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:36,419 >> if. 4550 01:37:36,419 --> 01:37:37,687 They're in. 4551 01:37:37,687 --> 01:37:38,154 violation of the ordinance? 4552 01:37:38,154 --> 01:37:39,489 Um. 4553 01:37:39,489 --> 01:37:39,756 >> just being um being 4554 01:37:39,756 --> 01:37:41,557 conscious. 4555 01:37:41,557 --> 01:37:42,158 About us becoming. 4556 01:37:42,158 --> 01:37:44,600 A growing. 4557 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:45,661 City, uh. 4558 01:37:45,661 --> 01:37:46,960 That is embracing. 4559 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:46,563 >> high. 4560 01:37:46,563 --> 01:37:48,563 Density that. 4561 01:37:48,899 --> 01:37:51,401 Is creating um, more narrow 4562 01:37:51,401 --> 01:37:51,802 streets and less spaces and 4563 01:37:51,802 --> 01:37:52,235 particularly with. 4564 01:37:52,235 --> 01:37:53,169 The uh. 4565 01:37:53,169 --> 01:37:54,271 General assembly. 4566 01:37:54,271 --> 01:37:55,739 Passing that. 4567 01:37:55,739 --> 01:37:56,306 Um or discussions. 4568 01:37:56,306 --> 01:37:57,540 >> of a. 4569 01:37:57,540 --> 01:37:58,108 No parking minimum. 4570 01:37:58,108 --> 01:37:58,708 >> right. 4571 01:37:58,708 --> 01:37:59,743 Um so I'm. 4572 01:37:59,743 --> 01:38:00,143 Just I know. 4573 01:38:00,143 --> 01:38:01,377 >> I'm. 4574 01:38:01,377 --> 01:38:01,711 All over the place but I hope 4575 01:38:01,711 --> 01:38:02,812 you. 4576 01:38:02,812 --> 01:38:04,215 Understand where I'm headed. 4577 01:38:04,215 --> 01:38:06,250 Yes I do do um. 4578 01:38:06,250 --> 01:38:06,817 And it is there's. 4579 01:38:06,817 --> 01:38:07,217 I know. 4580 01:38:07,217 --> 01:38:08,919 >> that. 4581 01:38:08,919 --> 01:38:12,222 There's lots of issues that go 4582 01:38:12,222 --> 01:38:14,910 into um why somebody might be. 4583 01:38:14,910 --> 01:38:14,391 Blocking a driveway. 4584 01:38:14,391 --> 01:38:15,358 Um. 4585 01:38:15,358 --> 01:38:16,259 There could be. 4586 01:38:16,259 --> 01:38:17,227 Four different. 4587 01:38:17,227 --> 01:38:17,694 You know, ten. 4588 01:38:17,694 --> 01:38:18,395 Different reasons. 4589 01:38:18,395 --> 01:38:18,862 >> with ten. 4590 01:38:18,862 --> 01:38:19,162 Different vehicles. 4591 01:38:19,162 --> 01:38:19,696 >> in. 4592 01:38:19,696 --> 01:38:20,563 A neighborhood. 4593 01:38:20,563 --> 01:38:22,133 Um. 4594 01:38:22,133 --> 01:38:23,234 >> and but this would. 4595 01:38:23,234 --> 01:38:25,234 Be there's a. 4596 01:38:25,502 --> 01:38:25,669 Education period that we would 4597 01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:27,104 be. 4598 01:38:27,104 --> 01:38:29,104 Implementing for sure. 4599 01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:30,240 Um, the ada team has actually 4600 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:30,708 already been. 4601 01:38:30,708 --> 01:38:32,708 working on. 4602 01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:33,410 Um, in that particular 4603 01:38:33,410 --> 01:38:34,177 neighborhood and the. 4604 01:38:34,177 --> 01:38:34,745 Officer who's. 4605 01:38:34,745 --> 01:38:35,679 >> been. 4606 01:38:35,679 --> 01:38:37,247 Involved in this. 4607 01:38:37,247 --> 01:38:37,681 Um, has been. 4608 01:38:37,681 --> 01:38:38,383 Educating the. 4609 01:38:38,383 --> 01:38:39,217 >> neighborhood and. 4610 01:38:39,217 --> 01:38:40,751 >> they've actually. 4611 01:38:40,751 --> 01:38:41,686 Improved out there. 4612 01:38:41,686 --> 01:38:42,620 It's just. 4613 01:38:42,620 --> 01:38:43,821 >> been an education. 4614 01:38:43,821 --> 01:38:44,221 Of you know, some. 4615 01:38:44,221 --> 01:38:45,923 People are. 4616 01:38:45,923 --> 01:38:47,158 >> just they just don't pull. 4617 01:38:47,158 --> 01:38:47,625 Quite enough up, you know. 4618 01:38:47,625 --> 01:38:49,193 >> and. 4619 01:38:49,193 --> 01:38:49,460 And they have room in their 4620 01:38:49,460 --> 01:38:49,860 driveway. 4621 01:38:49,860 --> 01:38:50,394 They're just. 4622 01:38:50,394 --> 01:38:52,394 Not doing it. 4623 01:38:52,763 --> 01:38:53,697 So um it's definitely. 4624 01:38:53,697 --> 01:38:54,298 An education piece. 4625 01:38:54,298 --> 01:38:55,399 Thank you. 4626 01:38:55,399 --> 01:38:56,201 >> okay we're going to. 4627 01:38:56,201 --> 01:38:57,902 Transition to. 4628 01:38:57,902 --> 01:38:58,837 The, uh, council chambers. 4629 01:38:58,837 --> 01:38:59,337 I know we have at least one 4630 01:38:59,337 --> 01:39:00,271 more question. 4631 01:39:00,271 --> 01:39:02,671 Council member ash mayor. 4632 01:39:02,774 --> 01:39:03,241 Thank you, MR. Harrington. 4633 01:39:03,241 --> 01:39:05,241 Um. 4634 01:39:07,778 --> 01:39:09,180 So this will only apply to. 4635 01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:09,513 Sidewalks, right? 4636 01:39:09,513 --> 01:39:11,215 We're not. 4637 01:39:11,215 --> 01:39:12,316 >> talking about driveways. 4638 01:39:12,316 --> 01:39:14,953 Even if the drivers are. 4639 01:39:14,953 --> 01:39:15,954 Sure to some of my colleagues 4640 01:39:15,954 --> 01:39:17,722 question we are just talking 4641 01:39:17,722 --> 01:39:18,790 about specifically sidewalks. 4642 01:39:18,790 --> 01:39:19,570 Um I. 4643 01:39:19,570 --> 01:39:21,570 Just want. 4644 01:39:21,659 --> 01:39:24,659 >> to highlight one of the. 4645 01:39:25,430 --> 01:39:26,230 Things I have seen there a 4646 01:39:26,230 --> 01:39:27,165 parent pushing a. 4647 01:39:27,165 --> 01:39:28,599 Stroller because that happens 4648 01:39:28,599 --> 01:39:29,233 to me quite a bit. 4649 01:39:29,233 --> 01:39:31,233 Um. 4650 01:39:31,870 --> 01:39:32,537 >> there are a senior walking 4651 01:39:32,537 --> 01:39:33,105 to the. 4652 01:39:33,105 --> 01:39:34,172 >> bus. 4653 01:39:34,172 --> 01:39:35,140 They're having they're. 4654 01:39:35,140 --> 01:39:37,140 Being forced. 4655 01:39:38,109 --> 01:39:39,210 To go into the traffic because 4656 01:39:39,210 --> 01:39:40,945 sidewalks are blocked. 4657 01:39:40,945 --> 01:39:41,913 So this is about safe 4658 01:39:41,913 --> 01:39:44,913 infrastructure and I have seen 4659 01:39:45,850 --> 01:39:47,418 that uh, because if we can 4660 01:39:47,418 --> 01:39:48,887 build sidewalks which we are 4661 01:39:48,887 --> 01:39:49,221 continuing to invest in because 4662 01:39:49,221 --> 01:39:50,923 this is. 4663 01:39:50,923 --> 01:39:52,991 One of the tools that we have 4664 01:39:52,991 --> 01:39:53,191 to address to get to vision 4665 01:39:53,191 --> 01:39:55,191 zero. 4666 01:39:55,527 --> 01:39:57,596 But if we have blocked 4667 01:39:57,596 --> 01:40:00,131 sidewalks it is forcing and 4668 01:40:00,131 --> 01:40:00,332 it's putting pedestrians at 4669 01:40:00,332 --> 01:40:02,332 risk. 4670 01:40:02,500 --> 01:40:03,635 So I think that's another 4671 01:40:03,635 --> 01:40:04,703 perspective to consider. 4672 01:40:04,703 --> 01:40:05,671 Um. 4673 01:40:05,671 --> 01:40:07,671 Seniors. 4674 01:40:08,700 --> 01:40:09,575 >> parents of young children, 4675 01:40:09,575 --> 01:40:10,750 folks with disability that's 4676 01:40:10,750 --> 01:40:10,476 all I have. 4677 01:40:10,476 --> 01:40:12,344 Thank you. 4678 01:40:12,344 --> 01:40:14,344 Yes. 4679 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:15,214 >> um um so I want to. 4680 01:40:15,214 --> 01:40:16,140 >> make. 4681 01:40:16,140 --> 01:40:16,215 Sure that I'm understanding 4682 01:40:16,215 --> 01:40:16,615 this. 4683 01:40:16,615 --> 01:40:18,615 Okay. 4684 01:40:20,352 --> 01:40:20,719 >> so my understanding it's a 4685 01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:21,787 driveway. 4686 01:40:21,787 --> 01:40:23,356 And if. 4687 01:40:23,356 --> 01:40:24,624 I pull my. 4688 01:40:24,624 --> 01:40:26,359 Car all the way out of the 4689 01:40:26,359 --> 01:40:27,960 driveway and I'm blocking the 4690 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:28,294 sidewalk, there's a part of my 4691 01:40:28,294 --> 01:40:30,196 driveway. 4692 01:40:30,196 --> 01:40:31,730 That that's the problem. 4693 01:40:31,730 --> 01:40:33,132 So it is the driveway. 4694 01:40:33,132 --> 01:40:33,666 Okay. 4695 01:40:33,666 --> 01:40:34,330 >> all right. 4696 01:40:34,330 --> 01:40:35,734 >> okay. 4697 01:40:35,734 --> 01:40:38,734 And what's happening is cmpd. 4698 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,475 Wants to write a citation but 4699 01:40:42,475 --> 01:40:43,676 we have a conflict in the and 4700 01:40:43,676 --> 01:40:43,843 so we need to figure out how 4701 01:40:43,843 --> 01:40:44,343 is. 4702 01:40:44,343 --> 01:40:46,343 The conflict. 4703 01:40:47,914 --> 01:40:49,982 Going to be eliminated so that 4704 01:40:49,982 --> 01:40:50,249 blocking the sidewalk becomes 4705 01:40:50,249 --> 01:40:51,250 something. 4706 01:40:51,250 --> 01:40:52,218 That's a some. 4707 01:40:52,218 --> 01:40:52,818 Type of citation. 4708 01:40:52,818 --> 01:40:54,818 Okay. 4709 01:40:55,354 --> 01:40:57,354 >> once again talking. 4710 01:40:58,124 --> 01:41:00,524 Is great or there. 4711 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:02,395 Other are there any other 4712 01:41:02,395 --> 01:41:05,395 questions from council on this 4713 01:41:05,398 --> 01:41:07,300 point or comment anything else 4714 01:41:07,300 --> 01:41:07,767 manager thank you. 4715 01:41:07,767 --> 01:41:09,767 Very much. 4716 01:41:09,969 --> 01:41:10,770 We are going to transition to 4717 01:41:10,770 --> 01:41:11,237 council chambers. 4718 01:41:11,237 --> 01:41:13,237 We will. 4719 01:41:13,406 --> 01:41:14,874 Take up the uh model cities 4720 01:41:14,874 --> 01:41:16,443 initiative grant just so folks 4721 01:41:16,443 --> 01:41:18,378 particularly online will know 4722 01:41:18,378 --> 01:41:20,113 uh during the manager's report 4723 01:41:20,113 --> 01:41:21,715 there and we'll also take up 4724 01:41:21,715 --> 01:41:23,677 the items that were deferred 4725 01:41:23,677 --> 01:41:25,677 okay. 4726 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,640 Um. 4727 01:41:47,269 --> 01:41:49,269 Uh. 4728 01:42:23,380 --> 01:42:25,380 >> and 4729 01:42:48,697 --> 01:42:50,697 um. 4730 01:43:12,155 --> 01:43:14,155 I'm. 4731 01:43:32,142 --> 01:43:32,775 We'll now. 4732 01:43:32,775 --> 01:43:33,710 Call the. 4733 01:43:33,710 --> 01:43:35,710 >> meeting to order. 4734 01:43:35,879 --> 01:43:37,647 Good evening and thank you for 4735 01:43:37,647 --> 01:43:39,549 joining us in this in person 4736 01:43:39,549 --> 01:43:41,451 and those watching online for 4737 01:43:41,451 --> 01:43:41,684 our AUGUST 10th business 4738 01:43:41,684 --> 01:43:42,752 meeting. 4739 01:43:42,752 --> 01:43:44,453 Charlotte city council. 4740 01:43:44,453 --> 01:43:45,421 Now let's begin with 4741 01:43:45,421 --> 01:43:47,191 introductions around the dais 4742 01:43:47,191 --> 01:43:49,693 starting with the city clerk. 4743 01:43:49,693 --> 01:43:50,928 Billy toms, deputy city. 4744 01:43:50,928 --> 01:43:51,695 Clerk andrea leslie fight. 4745 01:43:51,695 --> 01:43:52,663 City attorney. 4746 01:43:52,663 --> 01:43:54,197 Good evening. 4747 01:43:54,197 --> 01:43:55,165 At large. 4748 01:43:55,165 --> 01:43:56,700 Good evening. 4749 01:43:56,700 --> 01:43:57,667 I'm victoria watlington and I 4750 01:43:57,667 --> 01:43:58,101 have the pleasure of serving. 4751 01:43:58,101 --> 01:43:58,334 >> you. 4752 01:43:58,334 --> 01:43:59,200 As a. 4753 01:43:59,200 --> 01:43:59,803 >> member at large. 4754 01:43:59,803 --> 01:44:01,337 Good evening. 4755 01:44:01,337 --> 01:44:01,705 Joy male representing district 4756 01:44:01,705 --> 01:44:03,705 three. 4757 01:44:04,508 --> 01:44:06,410 Good evening and happy stellar 4758 01:44:06,410 --> 01:44:06,744 awards week and the city of 4759 01:44:06,744 --> 01:44:07,678 charlotte. 4760 01:44:07,678 --> 01:44:09,413 Dante anderson, district. 4761 01:44:09,413 --> 01:44:10,981 One marcus jones, city. 4762 01:44:10,981 --> 01:44:11,782 Manager good evening rob 4763 01:44:11,782 --> 01:44:12,716 harrington mayor. 4764 01:44:12,716 --> 01:44:13,984 Good evening. 4765 01:44:13,984 --> 01:44:14,317 Everyone james mitchell mayor 4766 01:44:14,317 --> 01:44:15,719 pro tem. 4767 01:44:15,719 --> 01:44:16,820 Good evening everyone. 4768 01:44:16,820 --> 01:44:17,754 Kimberly owens. 4769 01:44:17,754 --> 01:44:19,155 Representing district. 4770 01:44:19,155 --> 01:44:19,356 Six malcolm graham district 4771 01:44:19,356 --> 01:44:20,924 two. 4772 01:44:20,924 --> 01:44:21,224 At driggs district. 4773 01:44:21,224 --> 01:44:22,260 Seven. 4774 01:44:22,260 --> 01:44:23,194 >> good evening. 4775 01:44:23,194 --> 01:44:24,495 >> luana mayfield. 4776 01:44:24,495 --> 01:44:25,129 >> council member at large. 4777 01:44:25,129 --> 01:44:26,230 Good evening jd. 4778 01:44:26,230 --> 01:44:26,697 Arias proudly. 4779 01:44:26,697 --> 01:44:27,231 Representing the. 4780 01:44:27,231 --> 01:44:28,165 >> east. 4781 01:44:28,165 --> 01:44:30,340 Side district five. 4782 01:44:30,340 --> 01:44:30,234 Good evening I'm renee johnson 4783 01:44:30,234 --> 01:44:30,701 . 4784 01:44:30,701 --> 01:44:31,680 And I'm. 4785 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:32,269 Honored to. 4786 01:44:32,269 --> 01:44:33,670 >> represent district four. 4787 01:44:33,670 --> 01:44:34,938 Thank you all. 4788 01:44:34,938 --> 01:44:36,673 We begin our meeting with an. 4789 01:44:36,673 --> 01:44:38,208 Invocation expression. 4790 01:44:38,208 --> 01:44:39,210 >> of inspiration followed by 4791 01:44:39,210 --> 01:44:41,512 the pledge of allegiance. 4792 01:44:41,512 --> 01:44:43,180 The invocation is intended to 4793 01:44:43,180 --> 01:44:45,180 solemnized our proceedings. 4794 01:44:45,449 --> 01:44:47,510 We celebrate the religious 4795 01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:48,486 diversity of our community 4796 01:44:48,486 --> 01:44:49,153 including those without a 4797 01:44:49,153 --> 01:44:50,721 religious faith. 4798 01:44:50,721 --> 01:44:52,189 Tonight council member owens 4799 01:44:52,189 --> 01:44:52,756 will give our invocation. 4800 01:44:52,756 --> 01:44:53,724 Council member owens. 4801 01:44:53,724 --> 01:44:54,792 thank you mayor. 4802 01:44:54,792 --> 01:44:55,259 I will. 4803 01:44:55,259 --> 01:44:55,659 >> start. 4804 01:44:55,659 --> 01:44:57,228 By saying. 4805 01:44:57,228 --> 01:44:57,529 That when we start our. 4806 01:44:57,529 --> 01:44:58,496 Year we. 4807 01:44:58,496 --> 01:44:59,731 >> are assigned certain. 4808 01:44:59,731 --> 01:45:00,665 Dates and obviously. 4809 01:45:00,665 --> 01:45:02,533 Today is my date. 4810 01:45:02,533 --> 01:45:02,767 In anticipation of that, I 4811 01:45:02,767 --> 01:45:03,601 reached. 4812 01:45:03,601 --> 01:45:04,769 >> out to a variety of. 4813 01:45:04,769 --> 01:45:05,236 Faith communities. 4814 01:45:05,236 --> 01:45:06,170 >> who find. 4815 01:45:06,170 --> 01:45:08,390 Home within district six. 4816 01:45:08,390 --> 01:45:09,473 And the following was given to 4817 01:45:09,473 --> 01:45:10,875 be given to me. 4818 01:45:10,875 --> 01:45:13,275 Rather, biden received maggi. 4819 01:45:13,677 --> 01:45:15,580 Jr with the name of GOD. 4820 01:45:15,580 --> 01:45:15,914 >> the most merciful, the most 4821 01:45:15,914 --> 01:45:17,914 compassionate. 4822 01:45:18,249 --> 01:45:18,817 We begin by acknowledging the. 4823 01:45:18,817 --> 01:45:20,817 One who created. 4824 01:45:21,453 --> 01:45:22,887 Us and our diversity different 4825 01:45:22,887 --> 01:45:23,254 backgrounds, beliefs and 4826 01:45:23,254 --> 01:45:24,188 perspectives. 4827 01:45:24,188 --> 01:45:24,489 Yet united. 4828 01:45:24,489 --> 01:45:25,856 In our. 4829 01:45:25,856 --> 01:45:26,791 >> shared responsibility. 4830 01:45:26,791 --> 01:45:28,659 To care for one another. 4831 01:45:28,659 --> 01:45:30,862 And to serve the public good. 4832 01:45:30,862 --> 01:45:31,329 We pray for wisdom for. 4833 01:45:31,329 --> 01:45:32,731 >> those. 4834 01:45:32,731 --> 01:45:34,299 Entrusted with leadership. 4835 01:45:34,299 --> 01:45:36,234 MAY they be guided by. 4836 01:45:36,234 --> 01:45:37,269 Honesty over convenience. 4837 01:45:37,269 --> 01:45:39,269 Courage over. 4838 01:45:39,271 --> 01:45:40,238 Comfort and service. 4839 01:45:40,238 --> 01:45:41,306 Over self-interest. 4840 01:45:41,306 --> 01:45:42,273 Grant them. 4841 01:45:42,273 --> 01:45:42,707 Clarity of. 4842 01:45:42,707 --> 01:45:44,275 Mind when. 4843 01:45:44,275 --> 01:45:45,710 Decisions are complex. 4844 01:45:45,710 --> 01:45:46,444 Steadiness of heart. 4845 01:45:46,444 --> 01:45:47,345 >> when pressures. 4846 01:45:47,345 --> 01:45:48,112 Rise and. 4847 01:45:48,112 --> 01:45:49,515 Humility to. 4848 01:45:49,515 --> 01:45:49,748 Listen to the voices of the 4849 01:45:49,748 --> 01:45:50,682 people. 4850 01:45:50,682 --> 01:45:52,682 They represent. 4851 01:45:52,985 --> 01:45:54,586 we ask that our leaders be 4852 01:45:54,586 --> 01:45:54,786 strengthened and integrity that 4853 01:45:54,786 --> 01:45:55,721 . 4854 01:45:55,721 --> 01:45:57,255 Truth be spoken. 4855 01:45:57,255 --> 01:45:59,255 Clearly, that. 4856 01:45:59,457 --> 01:46:00,125 Justice be pursued sincerely 4857 01:46:00,125 --> 01:46:01,259 and that policies. 4858 01:46:01,259 --> 01:46:01,659 Reflect compassion. 4859 01:46:01,659 --> 01:46:03,228 For the. 4860 01:46:03,228 --> 01:46:03,695 >> vulnerable and fairness. 4861 01:46:03,695 --> 01:46:05,695 For all. 4862 01:46:05,897 --> 01:46:07,166 Bless this gathering with 4863 01:46:07,166 --> 01:46:08,267 respectful dialog. 4864 01:46:08,267 --> 01:46:08,734 Thoughtful deliberation. 4865 01:46:08,734 --> 01:46:09,668 And a. 4866 01:46:09,668 --> 01:46:10,402 >> commitment to. 4867 01:46:10,402 --> 01:46:10,903 >> what uplifts. 4868 01:46:10,903 --> 01:46:11,637 Our community. 4869 01:46:11,637 --> 01:46:12,738 As a whole. 4870 01:46:12,738 --> 01:46:13,806 Help us. 4871 01:46:13,806 --> 01:46:15,841 Remember that leadership is. 4872 01:46:15,841 --> 01:46:17,876 Not power over others but. 4873 01:46:17,876 --> 01:46:18,243 Responsibility for their 4874 01:46:18,243 --> 01:46:20,145 well-being. 4875 01:46:20,145 --> 01:46:20,712 MAY our work today contribute. 4876 01:46:20,712 --> 01:46:21,413 To a. 4877 01:46:21,413 --> 01:46:22,380 >> future marked. 4878 01:46:22,380 --> 01:46:23,782 By trust. 4879 01:46:23,782 --> 01:46:24,851 Accountability and. 4880 01:46:24,851 --> 01:46:26,118 Shared prosperity. 4881 01:46:26,118 --> 01:46:26,586 Amen. 4882 01:46:26,586 --> 01:46:28,586 >> amen. 4883 01:46:28,921 --> 01:46:29,121 >> thank you, council member 4884 01:46:29,121 --> 01:46:29,889 owens. 4885 01:46:29,889 --> 01:46:31,560 >> let's stand. 4886 01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:31,357 >> for the pledge of 4887 01:46:31,357 --> 01:46:33,357 allegiance. 4888 01:46:34,994 --> 01:46:37,196 Allegiance to the flag of the. 4889 01:46:37,196 --> 01:46:37,830 United states of america. 4890 01:46:37,830 --> 01:46:39,830 And to. 4891 01:46:40,933 --> 01:46:41,299 Publicly stands one nation 4892 01:46:41,299 --> 01:46:42,902 under GOD. 4893 01:46:42,902 --> 01:46:43,336 ,indivisible. 4894 01:46:43,336 --> 01:46:45,336 >>, with. 4895 01:46:45,671 --> 01:46:45,838 >> liberty and justice for all 4896 01:46:45,838 --> 01:46:47,838 . 4897 01:46:48,674 --> 01:46:50,674 Oh! 4898 01:46:50,710 --> 01:46:51,177 Yes. 4899 01:46:51,177 --> 01:46:53,450 We have. 4900 01:46:53,450 --> 01:46:53,913 >> one proclamation for this 4901 01:46:53,913 --> 01:46:55,514 evening and I'll turn it over 4902 01:46:55,514 --> 01:46:55,748 for that to council member 4903 01:46:55,748 --> 01:46:57,283 graham. 4904 01:46:57,283 --> 01:46:59,283 Thank you. 4905 01:47:00,387 --> 01:47:01,721 Um, MR. Mayor, um, and I'm 4906 01:47:01,721 --> 01:47:03,890 honored to have the opportunity 4907 01:47:03,890 --> 01:47:07,590 to read the the city of 4908 01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:08,261 charlotte proclamation whereas 4909 01:47:08,261 --> 01:47:09,929 national black philanthropy 4910 01:47:09,929 --> 01:47:12,632 month is observed annually and 4911 01:47:12,632 --> 01:47:14,660 AUGUST to celebrate and elevate 4912 01:47:14,660 --> 01:47:16,466 the rich tradition of 4913 01:47:16,903 --> 01:47:17,871 generosity, volunteerism, civic 4914 01:47:17,871 --> 01:47:19,206 engagement and charitable 4915 01:47:19,206 --> 01:47:19,339 giving within black communities 4916 01:47:19,339 --> 01:47:21,339 . 4917 01:47:21,508 --> 01:47:23,610 Recognizing philanthropy as a 4918 01:47:23,610 --> 01:47:24,244 powerful force for positive 4919 01:47:24,244 --> 01:47:26,244 social change. 4920 01:47:26,446 --> 01:47:28,648 And whereas the foundation for 4921 01:47:28,648 --> 01:47:29,916 black philanthropy an affiliate 4922 01:47:29,916 --> 01:47:31,985 of the foundation for the 4923 01:47:31,985 --> 01:47:33,586 carolina is established to 4924 01:47:33,586 --> 01:47:35,586 inspire charitable giving, 4925 01:47:35,956 --> 01:47:37,391 strengthen led black 4926 01:47:37,391 --> 01:47:39,391 organizations and advance 4927 01:47:39,659 --> 01:47:41,659 economic mobility, educational 4928 01:47:42,162 --> 01:47:43,163 success, health equality and 4929 01:47:43,163 --> 01:47:44,970 the community well-being 4930 01:47:44,970 --> 01:47:44,264 throughout the charlotte region 4931 01:47:44,264 --> 01:47:46,264 . 4932 01:47:46,466 --> 01:47:47,901 And whereas the foundation for 4933 01:47:47,901 --> 01:47:49,669 black philanthropy brings 4934 01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:50,937 together donors, community 4935 01:47:50,937 --> 01:47:52,937 leaders, advocates, jewish 4936 01:47:53,140 --> 01:47:53,974 political challenges and create 4937 01:47:53,974 --> 01:47:55,974 opportunities that build 4938 01:47:56,510 --> 01:47:57,478 stronger families, more vibrant 4939 01:47:57,478 --> 01:47:59,379 neighborhoods and a more 4940 01:47:59,379 --> 01:47:59,713 equitable future for our 4941 01:47:59,713 --> 01:48:01,713 residents. 4942 01:48:02,683 --> 01:48:03,650 And whereas in 2026 the 4943 01:48:03,650 --> 01:48:06,190 foundation for black from 4944 01:48:06,190 --> 01:48:08,190 atrophy awarded $25,000 in 4945 01:48:08,555 --> 01:48:10,625 grants $5,000 each to the 4946 01:48:10,625 --> 01:48:13,250 various organization stars math 4947 01:48:13,460 --> 01:48:16,460 and english academy mind body 4948 01:48:16,931 --> 01:48:18,999 baby and c strive clt mothers 4949 01:48:18,999 --> 01:48:21,680 of america offspring and youth 4950 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:21,869 development initiative is 4951 01:48:21,869 --> 01:48:23,470 dedicated to improving 4952 01:48:23,470 --> 01:48:25,720 educational achievement, 4953 01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,108 maternal and family health, 4954 01:48:27,108 --> 01:48:28,876 youth development, violence 4955 01:48:28,876 --> 01:48:30,778 prevention, workforce readiness 4956 01:48:30,778 --> 01:48:32,778 and economic mobility. 4957 01:48:33,147 --> 01:48:34,381 Whereas these grants exemplify 4958 01:48:34,381 --> 01:48:35,983 the spirit of black 4959 01:48:35,983 --> 01:48:37,118 philanthropy through their 4960 01:48:37,118 --> 01:48:39,190 commitment to expanding 4961 01:48:39,190 --> 01:48:40,454 opportunity, fostering 4962 01:48:40,454 --> 01:48:42,454 resilience, promoting healing 4963 01:48:42,990 --> 01:48:44,426 and creating last change across 4964 01:48:44,426 --> 01:48:44,759 charlotte and surrounding 4965 01:48:44,759 --> 01:48:46,759 region. 4966 01:48:46,961 --> 01:48:48,961 Demonstrating the collective 4967 01:48:49,497 --> 01:48:51,299 impact that strengthen our 4968 01:48:51,299 --> 01:48:53,601 community based on solutions. 4969 01:48:53,601 --> 01:48:54,402 Now therefore, robert e 4970 01:48:54,402 --> 01:48:57,402 harrington, mayor of the city 4971 01:48:57,705 --> 01:48:59,607 of charlotte do by proclaim 4972 01:48:59,607 --> 01:49:01,510 AUGUST 2026 as black street 4973 01:49:01,510 --> 01:49:03,445 month and encourage our 4974 01:49:03,445 --> 01:49:05,247 residents to not only recognize 4975 01:49:05,247 --> 01:49:07,516 and celebrate the contributions 4976 01:49:07,516 --> 01:49:09,516 of philanthropists, nonprofit 4977 01:49:10,510 --> 01:49:11,953 leaders, volunteers, donors and 4978 01:49:11,953 --> 01:49:13,555 community organizations but 4979 01:49:13,555 --> 01:49:15,923 also to participate and support 4980 01:49:15,923 --> 01:49:17,580 their efforts that uplift 4981 01:49:17,580 --> 01:49:18,961 communities, expand 4982 01:49:18,961 --> 01:49:20,229 opportunities and help build a 4983 01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:21,430 stronger, more equitable and 4984 01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:21,963 more prosperous charlotte. 4985 01:49:21,963 --> 01:49:23,963 >> for all. 4986 01:49:25,670 --> 01:49:26,801 Congratulations and this is 4987 01:49:26,801 --> 01:49:28,801 black history month. 4988 01:49:28,803 --> 01:49:30,803 Congratulations to all. 4989 01:49:35,343 --> 01:49:36,779 MR. Mayor, there are a number 4990 01:49:36,779 --> 01:49:38,213 of individuals here to receive 4991 01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:39,448 the proclamation so they would 4992 01:49:39,448 --> 01:49:40,516 join me in front of the dias. 4993 01:49:40,516 --> 01:49:44,116 I will hand it to them. 4994 01:49:54,263 --> 01:49:56,263 Starting. 4995 01:49:58,801 --> 01:50:00,801 >> with the. 4996 01:50:01,303 --> 01:50:01,770 Um. 4997 01:50:01,770 --> 01:50:03,770 They were. 4998 01:50:05,441 --> 01:50:05,941 A about a month. 4999 01:50:05,941 --> 01:50:07,941 >> it consists. 5000 01:50:08,176 --> 01:50:12,376 Of which I believe is the word. 5001 01:50:19,288 --> 01:50:21,288 was taken. 5002 01:50:24,259 --> 01:50:26,295 She has come to on the way. 5003 01:50:26,295 --> 01:50:26,862 For. 5004 01:50:26,862 --> 01:50:27,930 >> so long. 5005 01:50:27,930 --> 01:50:29,320 Should we move? 5006 01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:30,767 You know. 5007 01:50:30,767 --> 01:50:31,701 Um, okay. 5008 01:50:31,701 --> 01:50:32,635 >> it's just so we. 5009 01:50:32,635 --> 01:50:35,350 Know what to say. 5010 01:50:36,372 --> 01:50:40,572 I know, I don't want to ask. 5011 01:50:43,412 --> 01:50:45,412 You. 5012 01:50:49,820 --> 01:50:51,200 You know I can't see that money 5013 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,924 for us to make sure we get. 5014 01:50:54,924 --> 01:50:57,924 Her welcome and I think. 5015 01:51:15,780 --> 01:51:15,311 Thank you, council member 5016 01:51:15,311 --> 01:51:16,679 graham. 5017 01:51:16,679 --> 01:51:17,814 And thanks to all who were 5018 01:51:17,814 --> 01:51:19,549 recognized for all you do in 5019 01:51:19,549 --> 01:51:20,683 our community and the the 5020 01:51:20,683 --> 01:51:23,530 really important work that you 5021 01:51:23,530 --> 01:51:24,188 do as we transition into the 5022 01:51:24,188 --> 01:51:26,900 remainder of the uh, the 5023 01:51:26,900 --> 01:51:27,257 meeting, I'd like to um just 5024 01:51:27,257 --> 01:51:27,391 give a little bit of background 5025 01:51:27,391 --> 01:51:29,126 . 5026 01:51:29,126 --> 01:51:30,860 I'd like to thank all of you 5027 01:51:30,860 --> 01:51:31,228 for attending on behalf of the 5028 01:51:31,228 --> 01:51:32,462 city council. 5029 01:51:32,462 --> 01:51:34,197 I'd like to thank all of you. 5030 01:51:34,197 --> 01:51:35,932 I ask that audience members be 5031 01:51:35,932 --> 01:51:36,433 civil and courteous while in 5032 01:51:36,433 --> 01:51:38,168 the chamber. 5033 01:51:38,168 --> 01:51:40,700 We want to ensure that everyone 5034 01:51:40,700 --> 01:51:41,805 has a positive experience while 5035 01:51:41,805 --> 01:51:43,805 attending tonight's meeting. 5036 01:51:43,841 --> 01:51:44,942 And that takes us now to uh. 5037 01:51:44,942 --> 01:51:45,876 Open uh open. 5038 01:51:45,876 --> 01:51:47,578 Public comment on. 5039 01:51:47,578 --> 01:51:49,646 Amendments to the charlotte 5040 01:51:49,646 --> 01:51:49,880 city map and charlotte streets 5041 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:51,880 manual. 5042 01:51:52,150 --> 01:51:52,382 MADAM Clerk, do we have any 5043 01:51:52,382 --> 01:51:54,382 speakers? 5044 01:51:55,352 --> 01:51:56,287 Do I have a motion to close. 5045 01:51:56,287 --> 01:51:56,921 Public comment. 5046 01:51:56,921 --> 01:51:58,921 So moved. 5047 01:52:00,191 --> 01:52:00,458 And is is there a uh any 5048 01:52:00,458 --> 01:52:01,292 question. 5049 01:52:01,292 --> 01:52:03,270 Discussion there? 5050 01:52:03,270 --> 01:52:03,794 All in favor? 5051 01:52:03,794 --> 01:52:04,261 you. 5052 01:52:04,261 --> 01:52:04,695 >> here's. 5053 01:52:04,695 --> 01:52:05,462 A question. 5054 01:52:05,462 --> 01:52:06,697 Thank you. 5055 01:52:06,697 --> 01:52:07,310 >> council member johnson 5056 01:52:07,310 --> 01:52:07,531 number. 5057 01:52:07,531 --> 01:52:08,599 Seven right is that. 5058 01:52:08,599 --> 01:52:10,334 >> we are number seven okay. 5059 01:52:10,334 --> 01:52:10,801 So I wanted. 5060 01:52:10,801 --> 01:52:11,401 >> to. 5061 01:52:11,401 --> 01:52:13,700 To ask. 5062 01:52:13,700 --> 01:52:15,700 Looks like we're. 5063 01:52:15,406 --> 01:52:15,940 >> changing the manual. 5064 01:52:15,940 --> 01:52:16,874 >> I wanted. 5065 01:52:16,874 --> 01:52:18,309 >> to know how. 5066 01:52:18,309 --> 01:52:19,477 Cumulative impact. 5067 01:52:19,477 --> 01:52:21,178 Um for. 5068 01:52:21,178 --> 01:52:21,846 >> traffic studies is going to 5069 01:52:21,846 --> 01:52:23,846 be consider. 5070 01:52:24,815 --> 01:52:26,500 Do we. 5071 01:52:26,500 --> 01:52:26,350 >> have is there anybody from 5072 01:52:26,350 --> 01:52:27,184 the city. 5073 01:52:27,184 --> 01:52:28,352 >> to answer question. 5074 01:52:28,352 --> 01:52:28,652 That is coming? 5075 01:52:28,652 --> 01:52:30,454 Okay. 5076 01:52:30,454 --> 01:52:30,955 Motion was I. 5077 01:52:30,955 --> 01:52:31,623 >> think it. 5078 01:52:31,623 --> 01:52:33,224 >> just looks a. 5079 01:52:33,224 --> 01:52:33,424 Hearing and she has a question 5080 01:52:33,424 --> 01:52:33,858 about. 5081 01:52:33,858 --> 01:52:35,858 Community. 5082 01:52:40,732 --> 01:52:41,666 >> good evening mayor. 5083 01:52:41,666 --> 01:52:42,366 City council. 5084 01:52:42,366 --> 01:52:42,834 >> my name is. 5085 01:52:42,834 --> 01:52:44,834 Debbie smith. 5086 01:52:44,869 --> 01:52:46,300 Before we get there let's I 5087 01:52:46,300 --> 01:52:48,540 think we probably should take a 5088 01:52:48,540 --> 01:52:50,442 vote on the motion to close the 5089 01:52:50,442 --> 01:52:51,876 public comment and then move 5090 01:52:51,876 --> 01:52:52,143 into questions from council. 5091 01:52:52,143 --> 01:52:53,211 Okay. 5092 01:52:53,211 --> 01:52:54,312 So let's go ahead and take a 5093 01:52:54,312 --> 01:52:55,313 vote on the pending motion to 5094 01:52:55,313 --> 01:52:57,713 close close public comment. 5095 01:52:57,816 --> 01:52:59,816 Any opposed. 5096 01:53:00,151 --> 01:53:00,485 All right so public comment is 5097 01:53:00,485 --> 01:53:02,485 now closed. 5098 01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:03,788 Council member johnson please 5099 01:53:03,788 --> 01:53:05,356 proceed with the questions. 5100 01:53:05,356 --> 01:53:07,356 Thank you. 5101 01:53:09,861 --> 01:53:10,929 >> it's my understanding. 5102 01:53:10,929 --> 01:53:12,964 That we're going to. 5103 01:53:12,964 --> 01:53:13,298 Review guidelines for traffic 5104 01:53:13,298 --> 01:53:14,866 and. 5105 01:53:14,866 --> 01:53:16,267 Park study guidance. 5106 01:53:16,267 --> 01:53:17,202 So I wanted to know. 5107 01:53:17,202 --> 01:53:17,702 We talked. 5108 01:53:17,702 --> 01:53:18,570 >> about in. 5109 01:53:18,570 --> 01:53:19,838 >> the past looking. 5110 01:53:19,838 --> 01:53:21,838 At cumulative. 5111 01:53:23,740 --> 01:53:25,143 Impact or changing the 5112 01:53:25,143 --> 01:53:25,377 guidelines for traffic impact 5113 01:53:25,377 --> 01:53:25,944 studies. 5114 01:53:25,944 --> 01:53:27,944 Can you. 5115 01:53:27,980 --> 01:53:29,415 Answer or tell me if they were 5116 01:53:29,415 --> 01:53:31,283 going to be any consideration? 5117 01:53:31,283 --> 01:53:32,851 The cumulative impact. 5118 01:53:32,851 --> 01:53:33,318 Uh good. 5119 01:53:33,318 --> 01:53:34,286 Evening. 5120 01:53:34,286 --> 01:53:34,720 >> COUNCILWOMAN Johnson. 5121 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:35,287 Debbie smith. 5122 01:53:35,287 --> 01:53:36,521 >> was. 5123 01:53:36,521 --> 01:53:36,888 Charlotte department of 5124 01:53:36,888 --> 01:53:38,290 transportation. 5125 01:53:38,290 --> 01:53:39,357 I appreciate the question. 5126 01:53:39,357 --> 01:53:40,825 So as part. 5127 01:53:40,825 --> 01:53:42,495 Of the charlotte. 5128 01:53:42,495 --> 01:53:43,295 Streets manual that we're 5129 01:53:43,295 --> 01:53:44,290 looking at. 5130 01:53:44,290 --> 01:53:44,497 >> right here. 5131 01:53:44,497 --> 01:53:45,898 We're really. 5132 01:53:45,898 --> 01:53:46,832 Looking at um. 5133 01:53:46,832 --> 01:53:47,466 Uh. 5134 01:53:47,466 --> 01:53:48,300 >> the recommended. 5135 01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:49,868 Changes that. 5136 01:53:49,868 --> 01:53:50,969 Are illustrated. 5137 01:53:50,969 --> 01:53:51,903 In your document. 5138 01:53:51,903 --> 01:53:53,138 And so as. 5139 01:53:53,138 --> 01:53:53,472 Part of this process we're 5140 01:53:53,472 --> 01:53:54,106 really trying. 5141 01:53:54,106 --> 01:53:56,106 >> to do. 5142 01:53:56,742 --> 01:53:56,908 Very streamlined administrative 5143 01:53:56,908 --> 01:53:58,310 . 5144 01:53:58,310 --> 01:53:59,245 Changes that clean that up. 5145 01:53:59,245 --> 01:54:00,813 Right now. 5146 01:54:00,813 --> 01:54:01,781 Currently there is. 5147 01:54:01,781 --> 01:54:03,781 A referral. 5148 01:54:04,517 --> 01:54:04,884 To the transportation planning 5149 01:54:04,884 --> 01:54:06,585 and. 5150 01:54:06,585 --> 01:54:08,585 Development subcommittee of 5151 01:54:09,755 --> 01:54:10,856 council to talk about um the. 5152 01:54:10,856 --> 01:54:11,357 Question of. 5153 01:54:11,357 --> 01:54:13,250 The cumulative. 5154 01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:13,359 Impacts that you've talked 5155 01:54:13,359 --> 01:54:14,560 about. 5156 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:14,993 >> so we will be bringing back 5157 01:54:14,993 --> 01:54:15,962 to you some. 5158 01:54:15,962 --> 01:54:17,330 >> more information through. 5159 01:54:17,330 --> 01:54:19,330 That process. 5160 01:54:19,799 --> 01:54:21,234 But right now. 5161 01:54:21,234 --> 01:54:23,403 The number is still. 5162 01:54:23,403 --> 01:54:24,804 2500 trips. 5163 01:54:24,804 --> 01:54:26,372 To trigger a. 5164 01:54:26,372 --> 01:54:28,241 Traffic impact study. 5165 01:54:28,241 --> 01:54:28,875 Um yes. 5166 01:54:28,875 --> 01:54:29,809 However, I would. 5167 01:54:29,809 --> 01:54:31,809 Say that there. 5168 01:54:32,110 --> 01:54:33,580 Are um, more details that I 5169 01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:35,348 would like to be able to get to 5170 01:54:35,348 --> 01:54:35,849 because depending on the size 5171 01:54:35,849 --> 01:54:36,349 of the. 5172 01:54:36,349 --> 01:54:36,783 Development. 5173 01:54:36,783 --> 01:54:37,317 >> uh. 5174 01:54:37,317 --> 01:54:38,885 >> to be. 5175 01:54:38,885 --> 01:54:40,453 Able to answer that. 5176 01:54:40,453 --> 01:54:41,688 Question more thoroughly. 5177 01:54:41,688 --> 01:54:42,956 Okay. 5178 01:54:42,956 --> 01:54:43,423 >> so we've. 5179 01:54:43,423 --> 01:54:43,856 Been talking. 5180 01:54:43,856 --> 01:54:45,580 >> about. 5181 01:54:45,580 --> 01:54:46,250 This for a while and there was 5182 01:54:46,250 --> 01:54:47,293 a presentation from staff. 5183 01:54:47,293 --> 01:54:48,394 That we were going to be 5184 01:54:48,394 --> 01:54:49,280 looking at it. 5185 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:50,897 So are we. 5186 01:54:50,897 --> 01:54:52,432 Revising the manual. 5187 01:54:52,432 --> 01:54:53,367 Now and. 5188 01:54:53,367 --> 01:54:55,367 >> then referring. 5189 01:54:55,368 --> 01:54:57,404 This item to committee? 5190 01:54:57,404 --> 01:54:58,805 Is this something that can be. 5191 01:54:58,805 --> 01:54:59,272 Considered in. 5192 01:54:59,272 --> 01:54:59,906 >> this. 5193 01:54:59,906 --> 01:55:01,906 In this version? 5194 01:55:02,409 --> 01:55:02,575 So in this version right now we 5195 01:55:02,575 --> 01:55:03,509 are. 5196 01:55:03,509 --> 01:55:05,509 Making very uh. 5197 01:55:05,645 --> 01:55:05,879 Strategic administrative 5198 01:55:05,879 --> 01:55:06,946 changes. 5199 01:55:06,946 --> 01:55:08,381 >> we're not looking to change 5200 01:55:08,381 --> 01:55:08,949 those thresholds. 5201 01:55:08,949 --> 01:55:09,416 >> okay thank you. 5202 01:55:09,416 --> 01:55:11,416 You're welcome. 5203 01:55:12,353 --> 01:55:14,353 Council member mayfield. 5204 01:55:14,855 --> 01:55:15,789 Thank you. 5205 01:55:15,789 --> 01:55:17,789 Mayor. 5206 01:55:17,891 --> 01:55:20,291 >> debbie, if you can. 5207 01:55:21,270 --> 01:55:21,962 Explain the difference. 5208 01:55:21,962 --> 01:55:22,729 Between the. 5209 01:55:22,729 --> 01:55:23,463 >> collect the street. 5210 01:55:23,463 --> 01:55:24,397 To a local street. 5211 01:55:24,397 --> 01:55:26,397 Sure. 5212 01:55:26,567 --> 01:55:28,936 >> as well as what could the 5213 01:55:28,936 --> 01:55:30,838 impact of that be when. 5214 01:55:30,838 --> 01:55:31,905 We keep approving development. 5215 01:55:31,905 --> 01:55:32,873 And then there's not. 5216 01:55:32,873 --> 01:55:33,574 Uh. 5217 01:55:33,574 --> 01:55:34,808 >> the street. 5218 01:55:34,808 --> 01:55:36,808 To help. 5219 01:55:37,678 --> 01:55:38,912 Mitigate the congestion? 5220 01:55:38,912 --> 01:55:39,813 Absolutely. 5221 01:55:39,813 --> 01:55:40,781 >> um. 5222 01:55:40,781 --> 01:55:41,810 >> COUNCILWOMAN Mayfield, thank 5223 01:55:41,810 --> 01:55:42,516 you. 5224 01:55:42,516 --> 01:55:44,510 So much for that question. 5225 01:55:44,510 --> 01:55:44,852 And so collector streets are. 5226 01:55:44,852 --> 01:55:45,319 Just a type. 5227 01:55:45,319 --> 01:55:46,420 >> of. 5228 01:55:46,420 --> 01:55:47,388 Street uh. 5229 01:55:47,388 --> 01:55:48,889 That is a collector. 5230 01:55:48,889 --> 01:55:50,625 So local. 5231 01:55:50,625 --> 01:55:50,958 Streets feed into collector 5232 01:55:50,958 --> 01:55:51,892 streets. 5233 01:55:51,892 --> 01:55:53,460 So with. 5234 01:55:53,460 --> 01:55:54,395 Collector streets we are able. 5235 01:55:54,395 --> 01:55:55,280 >> to get a. 5236 01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:56,296 ,uh. 5237 01:55:56,296 --> 01:55:56,830 >> cross or. 5238 01:55:56,830 --> 01:55:58,398 >> a. 5239 01:55:58,398 --> 01:55:59,633 Roadway width that can. 5240 01:55:59,633 --> 01:55:59,867 Accommodate things like on 5241 01:55:59,867 --> 01:56:00,935 street. 5242 01:56:00,935 --> 01:56:01,402 Parking or. 5243 01:56:01,402 --> 01:56:02,403 Turn lanes. 5244 01:56:02,403 --> 01:56:04,238 And so. 5245 01:56:04,238 --> 01:56:05,373 >> in the classification here 5246 01:56:05,373 --> 01:56:07,408 that we're speaking of. 5247 01:56:07,408 --> 01:56:07,942 We are now changing. 5248 01:56:07,942 --> 01:56:08,876 >> that. 5249 01:56:08,876 --> 01:56:09,977 Classification to a. 5250 01:56:09,977 --> 01:56:11,379 Local street. 5251 01:56:11,379 --> 01:56:12,780 however any. 5252 01:56:12,780 --> 01:56:13,314 Development that comes in. 5253 01:56:13,314 --> 01:56:14,348 >> would. 5254 01:56:14,348 --> 01:56:14,815 Still have to mitigate. 5255 01:56:14,815 --> 01:56:16,383 Any impacts. 5256 01:56:16,383 --> 01:56:16,851 Of a development if. 5257 01:56:16,851 --> 01:56:17,284 >> a. 5258 01:56:17,284 --> 01:56:17,518 Development were. 5259 01:56:17,518 --> 01:56:19,354 To come. 5260 01:56:19,354 --> 01:56:20,422 >> in on a local street. 5261 01:56:20,422 --> 01:56:21,389 So it would still. 5262 01:56:21,389 --> 01:56:23,389 >> be required to. 5263 01:56:23,424 --> 01:56:24,859 Uh, address. 5264 01:56:24,859 --> 01:56:26,694 Certain conditions. 5265 01:56:26,694 --> 01:56:27,362 So a collector street 5266 01:56:27,362 --> 01:56:29,362 potentially can. 5267 01:56:30,165 --> 01:56:30,498 Have recessed parking on street 5268 01:56:30,498 --> 01:56:32,366 a. 5269 01:56:32,366 --> 01:56:34,766 Local street could not. 5270 01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:36,304 It's not it's it's typically by 5271 01:56:36,304 --> 01:56:36,772 its design. 5272 01:56:36,772 --> 01:56:37,406 >> it. 5273 01:56:37,406 --> 01:56:37,906 Tends to not. 5274 01:56:37,906 --> 01:56:38,907 Have a lot. 5275 01:56:38,907 --> 01:56:40,442 >> of that uh. 5276 01:56:40,442 --> 01:56:40,909 A lot of those changes. 5277 01:56:40,909 --> 01:56:41,843 We could. 5278 01:56:41,843 --> 01:56:42,410 Still look. 5279 01:56:42,410 --> 01:56:42,710 >> at it. 5280 01:56:42,710 --> 01:56:43,440 >> on. 5281 01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:43,511 A side. 5282 01:56:43,511 --> 01:56:44,913 By site. 5283 01:56:44,913 --> 01:56:46,147 Classification to. 5284 01:56:46,147 --> 01:56:47,448 Determine what street impacts 5285 01:56:47,448 --> 01:56:48,383 would need to be. 5286 01:56:48,383 --> 01:56:49,717 So when. 5287 01:56:49,717 --> 01:56:50,418 >> you follow up to 5288 01:56:50,418 --> 01:56:51,919 councilmember johnson's. 5289 01:56:51,919 --> 01:56:52,553 Risk when. 5290 01:56:52,553 --> 01:56:53,210 You give. 5291 01:56:53,210 --> 01:56:54,723 Her the. 5292 01:56:54,723 --> 01:56:54,957 >> response, it will be 5293 01:56:54,957 --> 01:56:55,924 helpful. 5294 01:56:55,924 --> 01:56:56,358 For me to. 5295 01:56:56,358 --> 01:56:56,992 >> have. 5296 01:56:56,992 --> 01:56:57,526 A breakdown because. 5297 01:56:57,526 --> 01:56:58,426 >> we just. 5298 01:56:58,426 --> 01:57:00,426 Had a conversation. 5299 01:57:00,462 --> 01:57:01,730 About parking on sidewalks. 5300 01:57:01,730 --> 01:57:02,640 We're also having a 5301 01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,640 conversation. 5302 01:57:04,990 --> 01:57:04,599 Regarding shortening driveways 5303 01:57:04,599 --> 01:57:05,834 which is an. 5304 01:57:05,834 --> 01:57:07,402 Oxymoron in itself. 5305 01:57:07,402 --> 01:57:07,936 But if we're talking about that 5306 01:57:07,936 --> 01:57:09,400 a collector. 5307 01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:10,705 Street is a street that. 5308 01:57:10,705 --> 01:57:13,105 Actually potentially has the 5309 01:57:13,242 --> 01:57:13,442 recessed parking because again 5310 01:57:13,442 --> 01:57:15,442 . 5311 01:57:15,611 --> 01:57:15,978 Crazy thought people have 5312 01:57:15,978 --> 01:57:17,546 vehicles. 5313 01:57:17,546 --> 01:57:19,546 They might. 5314 01:57:19,882 --> 01:57:20,816 Decide to have a gathering. 5315 01:57:20,816 --> 01:57:21,283 At their. 5316 01:57:21,283 --> 01:57:22,170 Home. 5317 01:57:22,170 --> 01:57:22,918 >> where are they. 5318 01:57:22,918 --> 01:57:24,918 >> going to park? 5319 01:57:24,953 --> 01:57:26,355 So what could the. 5320 01:57:26,355 --> 01:57:26,988 Impact of this be? 5321 01:57:26,988 --> 01:57:27,622 It would be. 5322 01:57:27,622 --> 01:57:29,492 Helpful to know. 5323 01:57:29,492 --> 01:57:30,359 I'd be. 5324 01:57:30,359 --> 01:57:30,960 >> happy to follow up. 5325 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:31,427 Thank you. 5326 01:57:31,427 --> 01:57:33,427 Thank you. 5327 01:57:33,963 --> 01:57:35,963 Any other comments? 5328 01:57:36,132 --> 01:57:37,266 COUNCILMAN Any anyone else who 5329 01:57:37,266 --> 01:57:38,367 had a council member as mayor 5330 01:57:38,367 --> 01:57:38,934 of first come back to you? 5331 01:57:38,934 --> 01:57:39,401 Council member johnson. 5332 01:57:39,401 --> 01:57:41,401 Yes. 5333 01:57:42,971 --> 01:57:44,873 >> so um, obviously this is. 5334 01:57:44,873 --> 01:57:46,873 Not just, uh. 5335 01:57:48,444 --> 01:57:50,120 Simple modifications here. 5336 01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,348 There are two things that um. 5337 01:57:52,348 --> 01:57:53,282 Were key. 5338 01:57:53,282 --> 01:57:54,450 One, it was the first. 5339 01:57:54,450 --> 01:57:55,885 >> was the fee in lieu. 5340 01:57:55,885 --> 01:57:57,586 So if you can talk. 5341 01:57:57,586 --> 01:57:58,420 About just the implications 5342 01:57:58,420 --> 01:57:59,388 when developers. 5343 01:57:59,388 --> 01:58:00,890 Will contribute. 5344 01:58:00,890 --> 01:58:03,290 Pay in lieu versus. 5345 01:58:04,494 --> 01:58:05,929 Developer versus building. 5346 01:58:05,929 --> 01:58:07,929 Uh directly. 5347 01:58:07,931 --> 01:58:08,631 Sure. 5348 01:58:08,631 --> 01:58:09,980 >> so so. 5349 01:58:09,980 --> 01:58:10,600 Then I'll talk. 5350 01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:10,833 >> about second item later. 5351 01:58:10,833 --> 01:58:11,934 okay. 5352 01:58:11,934 --> 01:58:12,535 >> COUNCILWOMAN Ajmera. 5353 01:58:12,535 --> 01:58:13,970 I would. 5354 01:58:13,970 --> 01:58:14,904 >> love to invite. 5355 01:58:14,904 --> 01:58:15,538 Jake carpenter down. 5356 01:58:15,538 --> 01:58:16,439 My subject. 5357 01:58:16,439 --> 01:58:16,939 Matter expert that. 5358 01:58:16,939 --> 01:58:17,406 >> you. 5359 01:58:17,406 --> 01:58:18,474 All see. 5360 01:58:18,474 --> 01:58:19,742 On your. 5361 01:58:19,742 --> 01:58:20,309 Rezoning nights to talk about 5362 01:58:20,309 --> 01:58:22,646 the fee in lieu. 5363 01:58:22,646 --> 01:58:24,547 Thank you. 5364 01:58:24,547 --> 01:58:25,949 >> thank you. 5365 01:58:25,949 --> 01:58:28,284 >> jay carpenter with that. 5366 01:58:28,284 --> 01:58:28,485 Um, so the fee in lieu changes 5367 01:58:28,485 --> 01:58:28,951 . 5368 01:58:28,951 --> 01:58:29,886 As part. 5369 01:58:29,886 --> 01:58:30,586 Of this. 5370 01:58:30,586 --> 01:58:32,422 >> are really. 5371 01:58:32,422 --> 01:58:32,889 Um, administrative. 5372 01:58:32,889 --> 01:58:33,957 >> to. 5373 01:58:33,957 --> 01:58:35,957 Give staff. 5374 01:58:35,991 --> 01:58:37,426 Uh, options when. 5375 01:58:37,426 --> 01:58:37,827 Um, a development can't. 5376 01:58:37,827 --> 01:58:38,940 >> meet. 5377 01:58:38,940 --> 01:58:38,896 Their. 5378 01:58:38,896 --> 01:58:39,997 Criteria that's. 5379 01:58:39,997 --> 01:58:40,931 >> outlined in. 5380 01:58:40,931 --> 01:58:42,866 >> this manual. 5381 01:58:42,866 --> 01:58:44,267 So it has to do with the. 5382 01:58:44,267 --> 01:58:44,467 Multi-modal changes and finding 5383 01:58:44,467 --> 01:58:45,569 . 5384 01:58:45,569 --> 01:58:47,569 Improvements to make. 5385 01:58:48,238 --> 01:58:48,438 Within a certain area of the 5386 01:58:48,438 --> 01:58:49,806 site. 5387 01:58:49,806 --> 01:58:50,440 And so this. 5388 01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:50,840 Just kind. 5389 01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:51,908 >> of. 5390 01:58:51,908 --> 01:58:52,408 Outlines a. 5391 01:58:52,408 --> 01:58:54,408 >> little. 5392 01:58:54,577 --> 01:58:54,911 More uh, what the options are 5393 01:58:54,911 --> 01:58:55,345 for. 5394 01:58:55,345 --> 01:58:55,779 >> fee. 5395 01:58:55,779 --> 01:58:57,414 And move for. 5396 01:58:57,414 --> 01:58:59,414 Multimodal mitigations. 5397 01:58:59,850 --> 01:59:00,350 Um it's really not tied to fee 5398 01:59:00,350 --> 01:59:01,452 and move for. 5399 01:59:01,452 --> 01:59:03,200 >> the greater. 5400 01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:03,954 Development process or. 5401 01:59:03,954 --> 01:59:05,954 um for. 5402 01:59:06,123 --> 01:59:06,456 Cip projects or things like 5403 01:59:06,456 --> 01:59:06,823 that. 5404 01:59:06,823 --> 01:59:07,891 It's a. 5405 01:59:07,891 --> 01:59:08,959 Very specific. 5406 01:59:08,959 --> 01:59:10,861 Uh, situation that. 5407 01:59:10,861 --> 01:59:12,262 Uh is just outlined a little. 5408 01:59:12,262 --> 01:59:12,429 Better as part of these changes 5409 01:59:12,429 --> 01:59:14,429 . 5410 01:59:14,565 --> 01:59:15,660 So if you can give me an 5411 01:59:15,660 --> 01:59:16,467 example of the. 5412 01:59:16,467 --> 01:59:17,167 So a. 5413 01:59:17,167 --> 01:59:17,935 Development it has to. 5414 01:59:17,935 --> 01:59:19,360 Perform a. 5415 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:19,970 Multimodal assessment. 5416 01:59:19,970 --> 01:59:20,905 As part of their. 5417 01:59:20,905 --> 01:59:21,839 Development sometimes. 5418 01:59:21,839 --> 01:59:23,240 And they. 5419 01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:24,341 Um they have. 5420 01:59:24,341 --> 01:59:24,875 Options in. 5421 01:59:24,875 --> 01:59:26,875 >> the. 5422 01:59:27,878 --> 01:59:28,450 Manual say to upgrade uh ramps 5423 01:59:28,450 --> 01:59:30,450 to. 5424 01:59:30,414 --> 01:59:31,150 Satisfy ada criteria. 5425 01:59:31,150 --> 01:59:33,150 Um but in. 5426 01:59:33,217 --> 01:59:33,851 >> some cases uh the manual 5427 01:59:33,851 --> 01:59:34,318 says you can. 5428 01:59:34,318 --> 01:59:35,419 Look within. 5429 01:59:35,419 --> 01:59:37,419 A quarter mile. 5430 01:59:37,455 --> 01:59:38,122 Um but there's. 5431 01:59:38,122 --> 01:59:39,189 Nothing available. 5432 01:59:39,189 --> 01:59:39,523 Because everything's been 5433 01:59:39,523 --> 01:59:40,925 upgraded. 5434 01:59:40,925 --> 01:59:41,559 And there's no options. 5435 01:59:41,559 --> 01:59:43,427 Um. 5436 01:59:43,427 --> 01:59:44,361 So they could instead to. 5437 01:59:44,361 --> 01:59:46,361 Satisfy their. 5438 01:59:46,397 --> 01:59:47,300 Development requirements. 5439 01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:48,132 Um. 5440 01:59:48,132 --> 01:59:49,367 Do a fee. 5441 01:59:49,367 --> 01:59:50,335 In lieu to. 5442 01:59:50,335 --> 01:59:52,170 Say construct. 5443 01:59:52,170 --> 01:59:52,503 Two accessible ramps so instead 5444 01:59:52,503 --> 01:59:53,938 of. 5445 01:59:53,938 --> 01:59:55,940 Constructing them they would. 5446 01:59:55,940 --> 01:59:56,908 Contribute um a dollar. 5447 01:59:56,908 --> 01:59:57,708 Amount to. 5448 01:59:57,708 --> 01:59:58,476 >> the transportation. 5449 01:59:58,476 --> 01:59:59,410 Program to. 5450 01:59:59,410 --> 02:00:00,511 Satisfy their. 5451 02:00:00,511 --> 02:00:00,978 development requirements. 5452 02:00:00,978 --> 02:00:02,978 So when. 5453 02:00:04,281 --> 02:00:06,318 They contribute in pay in lieu 5454 02:00:06,318 --> 02:00:07,151 fund would those funds be used 5455 02:00:07,151 --> 02:00:09,151 to build that? 5456 02:00:10,288 --> 02:00:11,689 Well in this case there's 5457 02:00:11,689 --> 02:00:12,560 nothing in the immediate 5458 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:12,690 vicinity. 5459 02:00:12,690 --> 02:00:13,458 >> to build. 5460 02:00:13,458 --> 02:00:15,159 So the. 5461 02:00:15,159 --> 02:00:16,728 Department would be able to. 5462 02:00:16,728 --> 02:00:17,228 Go really be a. 5463 02:00:17,228 --> 02:00:18,129 Little outside. 5464 02:00:18,129 --> 02:00:18,696 Of of. 5465 02:00:18,696 --> 02:00:19,630 >> their where. 5466 02:00:19,630 --> 02:00:20,565 >> the greatest need is. 5467 02:00:20,565 --> 02:00:21,499 Yes. 5468 02:00:21,499 --> 02:00:23,670 Okay that's very second. 5469 02:00:23,670 --> 02:00:24,360 I noticed there's tier. 5470 02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,360 Three parking reduction. 5471 02:00:26,505 --> 02:00:27,205 Those were the only two major. 5472 02:00:27,205 --> 02:00:28,106 Items I saw as. 5473 02:00:28,106 --> 02:00:29,207 Part of the clarification. 5474 02:00:29,207 --> 02:00:30,475 Could you speak to those. 5475 02:00:30,475 --> 02:00:32,475 Parking reductions? 5476 02:00:32,644 --> 02:00:34,979 Uh, so this is. 5477 02:00:34,979 --> 02:00:36,470 Another case where uh, the. 5478 02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:38,470 The goal. 5479 02:00:38,820 --> 02:00:38,583 Is to kind of. 5480 02:00:38,583 --> 02:00:40,218 Outline the. 5481 02:00:40,218 --> 02:00:40,551 >> options a little bit better 5482 02:00:40,551 --> 02:00:42,551 for staff. 5483 02:00:43,522 --> 02:00:44,156 Um, there over time. 5484 02:00:44,156 --> 02:00:45,557 There is a. 5485 02:00:45,557 --> 02:00:47,557 Request for. 5486 02:00:47,893 --> 02:00:48,930 Uh, parking reductions and this 5487 02:00:48,930 --> 02:00:48,560 sort. 5488 02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:49,961 Of just. 5489 02:00:49,961 --> 02:00:50,595 Outlines the process. 5490 02:00:50,595 --> 02:00:52,595 Um. 5491 02:00:52,630 --> 02:00:54,499 So if a development uh. 5492 02:00:54,499 --> 02:00:55,767 Requested this, the cdot. 5493 02:00:55,767 --> 02:00:57,200 >> would work with the planning 5494 02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:58,971 department, uh. 5495 02:00:58,971 --> 02:00:59,171 >> and do a parking study for 5496 02:00:59,171 --> 02:01:00,573 the. 5497 02:01:00,573 --> 02:01:01,507 Development to see the. 5498 02:01:01,507 --> 02:01:01,907 Various factors. 5499 02:01:01,907 --> 02:01:03,907 >> that. 5500 02:01:04,710 --> 02:01:05,440 Could, um, affect their parking 5501 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:06,511 need. 5502 02:01:06,511 --> 02:01:08,511 And determine. 5503 02:01:08,814 --> 02:01:09,615 If it was allowable to have a 5504 02:01:09,615 --> 02:01:11,615 parking reduction. 5505 02:01:11,817 --> 02:01:13,385 Um, for this specific 5506 02:01:13,385 --> 02:01:14,686 development so you could have a 5507 02:01:14,686 --> 02:01:17,860 multi-use development where you 5508 02:01:17,824 --> 02:01:19,258 had multiple uses that uh, 5509 02:01:19,258 --> 02:01:20,693 maybe had peak parking at 5510 02:01:20,693 --> 02:01:22,294 different times so you could 5511 02:01:22,294 --> 02:01:22,528 reduce the total parking that's 5512 02:01:22,528 --> 02:01:24,528 needed. 5513 02:01:24,830 --> 02:01:26,432 Uh, and this is a rare 5514 02:01:26,432 --> 02:01:28,502 situation um, and staff has 5515 02:01:28,502 --> 02:01:29,100 worked to work through it to 5516 02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:30,680 this point as. 5517 02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:31,336 Best as possible. 5518 02:01:31,336 --> 02:01:32,137 Um, but this just gives a 5519 02:01:32,137 --> 02:01:32,938 little more clarity to. 5520 02:01:32,938 --> 02:01:34,641 Kind of how. 5521 02:01:34,641 --> 02:01:35,575 To run that process. 5522 02:01:35,575 --> 02:01:36,309 So for. 5523 02:01:36,309 --> 02:01:37,109 >> those of you who. 5524 02:01:37,109 --> 02:01:37,777 >> do not know tier. 5525 02:01:37,777 --> 02:01:39,178 >> one two and. 5526 02:01:39,178 --> 02:01:39,512 Three could you just explain 5527 02:01:39,512 --> 02:01:41,512 that? 5528 02:01:42,140 --> 02:01:43,616 I'm sorry explain. 5529 02:01:43,616 --> 02:01:44,517 Tier three parking reduction. 5530 02:01:44,517 --> 02:01:45,451 Park tier. 5531 02:01:45,451 --> 02:01:47,451 >> three specifically. 5532 02:01:47,486 --> 02:01:47,686 Because that's the only tier 5533 02:01:47,686 --> 02:01:48,621 three. 5534 02:01:48,621 --> 02:01:50,489 That's only. 5535 02:01:50,489 --> 02:01:51,124 Parking reduction it speaks. 5536 02:01:51,124 --> 02:01:51,891 To as. 5537 02:01:51,891 --> 02:01:53,891 Part of this. 5538 02:01:55,662 --> 02:01:58,620 I think the the. 5539 02:01:59,399 --> 02:02:02,399 So the new the section 3.8. 5540 02:02:04,570 --> 02:02:05,638 >> right sure and the the. 5541 02:02:05,638 --> 02:02:08,380 Tier three parking is. 5542 02:02:08,308 --> 02:02:10,210 Really it's a planning it's a 5543 02:02:10,210 --> 02:02:11,945 level of of parking from the 5544 02:02:11,945 --> 02:02:12,245 planning side of of the 5545 02:02:12,245 --> 02:02:13,790 development. 5546 02:02:13,790 --> 02:02:15,790 So it's. 5547 02:02:15,582 --> 02:02:17,950 Um the the manual is cdot but 5548 02:02:17,950 --> 02:02:20,320 the requirement is planning um 5549 02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:21,921 so it's just a level of 5550 02:02:21,921 --> 02:02:23,560 development that would um 5551 02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:23,289 require a certain amount of 5552 02:02:23,289 --> 02:02:25,124 parking. 5553 02:02:25,124 --> 02:02:26,827 Okay. 5554 02:02:26,827 --> 02:02:27,261 >> I don't have more questions 5555 02:02:27,261 --> 02:02:28,950 but I'll follow. 5556 02:02:28,950 --> 02:02:28,528 >> up with you later. 5557 02:02:28,528 --> 02:02:28,896 >> that's all. 5558 02:02:28,896 --> 02:02:29,196 >> I have. 5559 02:02:29,196 --> 02:02:30,163 Thank you. 5560 02:02:30,163 --> 02:02:31,398 Thank you. 5561 02:02:31,398 --> 02:02:32,365 >> council member as mayor I'm 5562 02:02:32,365 --> 02:02:33,330 going to come back to council 5563 02:02:33,330 --> 02:02:34,267 member johnson. 5564 02:02:34,267 --> 02:02:36,300 But are there any other 5565 02:02:36,300 --> 02:02:36,736 questions or comments from. 5566 02:02:36,736 --> 02:02:38,605 Council at this point? 5567 02:02:38,605 --> 02:02:40,600 Council member johnson. 5568 02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:41,107 Thank you. 5569 02:02:41,107 --> 02:02:42,208 MR. Mayor. 5570 02:02:42,208 --> 02:02:43,144 Um yeah. 5571 02:02:43,144 --> 02:02:44,545 I'd like you. 5572 02:02:44,545 --> 02:02:45,946 Guys uh, council. 5573 02:02:45,946 --> 02:02:46,146 Member mayfield and asthma 5574 02:02:46,146 --> 02:02:47,810 that. 5575 02:02:47,810 --> 02:02:48,649 You asked. 5576 02:02:48,649 --> 02:02:50,500 For staff to explain the. 5577 02:02:50,500 --> 02:02:50,417 Impact when. 5578 02:02:50,417 --> 02:02:50,751 >> we. 5579 02:02:50,751 --> 02:02:51,685 Talk about. 5580 02:02:51,685 --> 02:02:52,152 >> cumulative impact. 5581 02:02:52,152 --> 02:02:53,553 >> um. 5582 02:02:53,553 --> 02:02:54,955 >> uh. 5583 02:02:54,955 --> 02:02:56,560 >> MISS Smith, can you. 5584 02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,560 Can you. 5585 02:02:58,910 --> 02:03:00,910 >> explain cumulative. 5586 02:03:00,427 --> 02:03:01,562 Impact and the difference um, 5587 02:03:01,562 --> 02:03:02,964 in what we're doing now. 5588 02:03:02,964 --> 02:03:04,532 ? 5589 02:03:04,532 --> 02:03:05,599 So COUNCILWOMAN Johnson. 5590 02:03:05,599 --> 02:03:06,901 I think the way that I 5591 02:03:06,901 --> 02:03:07,534 understand that question is 5592 02:03:07,534 --> 02:03:09,103 really to talk. 5593 02:03:09,103 --> 02:03:11,138 About what are the. 5594 02:03:11,138 --> 02:03:13,207 Impacts when a development 5595 02:03:13,207 --> 02:03:14,475 comes in to let's say whether 5596 02:03:14,475 --> 02:03:15,909 it be by right. 5597 02:03:15,909 --> 02:03:17,110 Or whether through a rezoning 5598 02:03:17,110 --> 02:03:17,444 but to be able to talk. 5599 02:03:17,444 --> 02:03:18,980 About the. 5600 02:03:18,980 --> 02:03:20,810 >> traffic impacts. 5601 02:03:20,810 --> 02:03:20,782 and I. 5602 02:03:20,782 --> 02:03:21,115 >> would love to. 5603 02:03:21,115 --> 02:03:21,783 Be able. 5604 02:03:21,783 --> 02:03:23,500 >> to have. 5605 02:03:23,500 --> 02:03:24,118 Um some time to. 5606 02:03:24,118 --> 02:03:25,520 Be able to put together. 5607 02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:25,386 Some information. 5608 02:03:25,386 --> 02:03:26,120 And follow. 5609 02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:26,454 >> up with you. 5610 02:03:26,454 --> 02:03:27,121 And the. 5611 02:03:27,121 --> 02:03:27,521 >> reason I ask. 5612 02:03:27,521 --> 02:03:27,788 >> I've. 5613 02:03:27,788 --> 02:03:28,155 Been I've. 5614 02:03:28,155 --> 02:03:28,889 >> been. 5615 02:03:28,889 --> 02:03:30,291 Bringing this up for at. 5616 02:03:30,291 --> 02:03:30,491 Least probably five years or 5617 02:03:30,491 --> 02:03:31,258 so. 5618 02:03:31,258 --> 02:03:32,660 And why it's. 5619 02:03:32,660 --> 02:03:34,660 Important is because. 5620 02:03:34,862 --> 02:03:35,620 Currently if I'm correct that's 5621 02:03:35,620 --> 02:03:35,663 . 5622 02:03:35,663 --> 02:03:36,931 The trick the. 5623 02:03:36,931 --> 02:03:37,165 Number to trigger a traffic 5624 02:03:37,165 --> 02:03:38,666 impact. 5625 02:03:38,666 --> 02:03:39,934 Study is 2500. 5626 02:03:39,934 --> 02:03:40,568 Trips. 5627 02:03:40,568 --> 02:03:41,169 Unless there's change. 5628 02:03:41,169 --> 02:03:42,570 It's lower. 5629 02:03:42,570 --> 02:03:44,570 Yes 1500. 5630 02:03:44,605 --> 02:03:46,174 Trip 1500. 5631 02:03:46,174 --> 02:03:48,174 1500 or. 5632 02:03:49,143 --> 02:03:51,178 >> trips and that's one. 5633 02:03:51,178 --> 02:03:51,979 Petition has to have 2000 trips 5634 02:03:51,979 --> 02:03:53,715 before we. 5635 02:03:53,715 --> 02:03:55,750 Have a traffic impact study. 5636 02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:57,180 But if you have three petitions 5637 02:03:57,180 --> 02:03:58,520 next to each other and. 5638 02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:59,587 >> they each have. 5639 02:03:59,587 --> 02:04:01,489 A thousand mhm. 5640 02:04:01,489 --> 02:04:02,557 There's no. 5641 02:04:02,557 --> 02:04:03,570 Study on. 5642 02:04:03,570 --> 02:04:03,991 >> how. 5643 02:04:03,991 --> 02:04:05,226 Traffic is impacted. 5644 02:04:05,226 --> 02:04:06,794 So this is. 5645 02:04:06,794 --> 02:04:08,620 Happening all throughout the 5646 02:04:08,620 --> 02:04:09,330 district and traffic just. 5647 02:04:09,330 --> 02:04:09,897 Continues to. 5648 02:04:09,897 --> 02:04:11,199 >> increase. 5649 02:04:11,199 --> 02:04:12,601 But we are not requiring. 5650 02:04:12,601 --> 02:04:13,235 A study. 5651 02:04:13,235 --> 02:04:14,636 because it's not. 5652 02:04:14,636 --> 02:04:16,370 Triggering that study. 5653 02:04:16,370 --> 02:04:16,471 So we've talked. 5654 02:04:16,471 --> 02:04:16,938 About it for. 5655 02:04:16,938 --> 02:04:18,600 >> a while. 5656 02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:18,540 So MR. Manager I think. 5657 02:04:18,540 --> 02:04:19,400 >> this. 5658 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,400 Is important. 5659 02:04:21,420 --> 02:04:23,770 If this could come before. 5660 02:04:23,770 --> 02:04:24,646 Committee sooner than. 5661 02:04:24,646 --> 02:04:26,514 Later because you. 5662 02:04:26,514 --> 02:04:27,983 Know it's meanwhile traffic is 5663 02:04:27,983 --> 02:04:29,551 just increasing and increasing 5664 02:04:29,551 --> 02:04:30,486 and we're we're ignoring. 5665 02:04:30,486 --> 02:04:32,486 This problem. 5666 02:04:32,654 --> 02:04:34,223 So do we have an. 5667 02:04:34,223 --> 02:04:34,623 Idea of how soon that can come 5668 02:04:34,623 --> 02:04:36,623 to committee. 5669 02:04:38,627 --> 02:04:39,428 It has been referred so we can 5670 02:04:39,428 --> 02:04:39,695 make sure that this is 5671 02:04:39,695 --> 02:04:41,196 something. 5672 02:04:41,196 --> 02:04:42,898 That's as you just said. 5673 02:04:42,898 --> 02:04:43,798 Um it's. 5674 02:04:43,798 --> 02:04:44,320 >> in the queue now. 5675 02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:44,799 Okay. 5676 02:04:44,799 --> 02:04:46,435 >> thank you. 5677 02:04:46,435 --> 02:04:48,304 And speaking of that I. 5678 02:04:48,304 --> 02:04:48,704 Hope that we're looking at a 5679 02:04:48,704 --> 02:04:50,704 referral tracker. 5680 02:04:50,839 --> 02:04:51,106 Because I'm probably been 5681 02:04:51,106 --> 02:04:51,807 referred. 5682 02:04:51,807 --> 02:04:52,107 >> a while ago. 5683 02:04:52,107 --> 02:04:53,509 Yeah. 5684 02:04:53,509 --> 02:04:53,776 >> it's that good. 5685 02:04:53,776 --> 02:04:54,710 Okay. 5686 02:04:54,710 --> 02:04:56,111 >> thank you. 5687 02:04:56,111 --> 02:04:56,578 That's all I have. 5688 02:04:56,578 --> 02:04:57,813 Thank you. 5689 02:04:57,813 --> 02:04:59,114 >> council member as mia has 5690 02:04:59,114 --> 02:05:00,382 another question are there any 5691 02:05:00,382 --> 02:05:00,715 other questions from those who 5692 02:05:00,715 --> 02:05:02,584 have not. 5693 02:05:02,584 --> 02:05:04,200 Spoken to the motion? 5694 02:05:04,200 --> 02:05:05,421 Let's go. 5695 02:05:05,421 --> 02:05:06,880 Council member watlington and 5696 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:08,880 then council members. 5697 02:05:08,900 --> 02:05:08,591 Yeah my quick um I just wanted 5698 02:05:08,591 --> 02:05:09,992 to lift up. 5699 02:05:09,992 --> 02:05:11,930 You're right. 5700 02:05:11,930 --> 02:05:12,228 This conversation feels like 5701 02:05:12,228 --> 02:05:13,496 it's been going on since at 5702 02:05:13,496 --> 02:05:14,630 least 2019. 5703 02:05:14,630 --> 02:05:14,530 >> what is. 5704 02:05:14,530 --> 02:05:16,530 The gap? 5705 02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:22,470 Well. 5706 02:05:22,505 --> 02:05:22,739 >> MR. Manager. 5707 02:05:22,739 --> 02:05:23,973 Um. 5708 02:05:23,973 --> 02:05:25,740 >> it is. 5709 02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:26,776 >> in committee. 5710 02:05:26,776 --> 02:05:28,544 It got referred to committee 5711 02:05:28,544 --> 02:05:29,312 and we're going to put. 5712 02:05:29,312 --> 02:05:30,413 >> it on. 5713 02:05:30,413 --> 02:05:30,680 The top of the list of the 5714 02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:31,547 committee. 5715 02:05:31,547 --> 02:05:33,249 Sure. 5716 02:05:33,249 --> 02:05:34,216 I know this isn't the first 5717 02:05:34,216 --> 02:05:35,818 time staff has worked on it 5718 02:05:35,818 --> 02:05:36,485 though, so I just want to 5719 02:05:36,485 --> 02:05:37,119 understand truthfully what. 5720 02:05:37,119 --> 02:05:39,119 >> is the. 5721 02:05:39,289 --> 02:05:40,257 Barrier to delivering a 5722 02:05:40,257 --> 02:05:42,325 response to this cumulative 5723 02:05:42,325 --> 02:05:43,927 impact because if there's 5724 02:05:43,927 --> 02:05:45,361 something real structural here 5725 02:05:45,361 --> 02:05:46,963 or legislatively that we need 5726 02:05:46,963 --> 02:05:48,364 to understand, I'd rather we be 5727 02:05:48,364 --> 02:05:49,832 clear about that because as 5728 02:05:49,832 --> 02:05:50,466 I've said, this has gone on for 5729 02:05:50,466 --> 02:05:52,866 a very long time. 5730 02:05:53,302 --> 02:05:54,870 So is there a is there a real 5731 02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:57,274 structural barrier to be able 5732 02:05:57,274 --> 02:05:59,900 to adjust such that we can have 5733 02:05:59,900 --> 02:05:59,943 cumulative impact considered. 5734 02:05:59,943 --> 02:06:01,440 ? 5735 02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:02,946 >> and so. 5736 02:06:02,946 --> 02:06:04,140 Manager say okay if I take a. 5737 02:06:04,140 --> 02:06:06,414 Stab at that question. 5738 02:06:07,283 --> 02:06:08,117 And so what I think uh is the 5739 02:06:08,117 --> 02:06:08,551 opportunity that we have. 5740 02:06:08,551 --> 02:06:10,551 Is to. 5741 02:06:11,220 --> 02:06:13,290 >> better be able to explain, 5742 02:06:13,290 --> 02:06:13,624 uh, the process by which we 5743 02:06:13,624 --> 02:06:14,910 consider. 5744 02:06:14,910 --> 02:06:15,993 All of. 5745 02:06:15,993 --> 02:06:16,193 >> the traffic and I think 5746 02:06:16,193 --> 02:06:17,940 over. 5747 02:06:17,940 --> 02:06:17,794 Time we. 5748 02:06:17,794 --> 02:06:18,595 >> have found. 5749 02:06:18,595 --> 02:06:18,896 That, uh. 5750 02:06:18,896 --> 02:06:20,864 Through our. 5751 02:06:20,864 --> 02:06:21,197 >> processes and our procedures 5752 02:06:21,197 --> 02:06:23,197 we haven't. 5753 02:06:23,533 --> 02:06:24,134 Been explaining all. 5754 02:06:24,134 --> 02:06:25,101 >> of the. 5755 02:06:25,101 --> 02:06:25,435 Background information. 5756 02:06:25,435 --> 02:06:26,970 >> that. 5757 02:06:26,970 --> 02:06:29,306 Goes into the decision making. 5758 02:06:29,306 --> 02:06:29,672 Uh, around that cumulative 5759 02:06:29,672 --> 02:06:31,740 impact and. 5760 02:06:31,740 --> 02:06:32,900 The impact of the. 5761 02:06:32,900 --> 02:06:32,476 Developments that. 5762 02:06:32,476 --> 02:06:33,110 >> are. 5763 02:06:33,110 --> 02:06:35,110 Happening are. 5764 02:06:36,380 --> 02:06:37,514 Absolutely considered in the 5765 02:06:37,514 --> 02:06:39,216 decision making that happens. 5766 02:06:39,216 --> 02:06:39,583 And I think being able to 5767 02:06:39,583 --> 02:06:41,583 convey that. 5768 02:06:42,552 --> 02:06:43,200 More clearly in a way to you. 5769 02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:44,870 All is. 5770 02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:46,870 Really where the. 5771 02:06:46,456 --> 02:06:46,623 The opportunity presents itself 5772 02:06:46,623 --> 02:06:47,190 . 5773 02:06:47,190 --> 02:06:49,190 >> through committee. 5774 02:06:51,462 --> 02:06:52,663 Okay. 5775 02:06:52,663 --> 02:06:53,130 >> I look forward to hearing 5776 02:06:53,130 --> 02:06:54,165 that in committee. 5777 02:06:54,165 --> 02:06:54,965 So it sounds like what's in 5778 02:06:54,965 --> 02:06:55,232 committee is not a policy 5779 02:06:55,232 --> 02:06:55,933 question. 5780 02:06:55,933 --> 02:06:56,800 It's a matter. 5781 02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:58,602 >> of explanation. 5782 02:06:58,602 --> 02:07:00,400 What what are we working on? 5783 02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:02,373 Yeah I believe that it is 5784 02:07:02,373 --> 02:07:03,974 really in clarity around um 5785 02:07:03,974 --> 02:07:04,641 explaining the technical 5786 02:07:04,641 --> 02:07:06,210 components that we have. 5787 02:07:06,210 --> 02:07:08,379 Behind the work that we do. 5788 02:07:08,379 --> 02:07:09,547 Uh, in a way that is very 5789 02:07:09,547 --> 02:07:10,748 tangible and relatable. 5790 02:07:10,748 --> 02:07:11,182 To the topics that you. 5791 02:07:11,182 --> 02:07:12,416 All are. 5792 02:07:12,416 --> 02:07:13,718 >> talking about. 5793 02:07:13,718 --> 02:07:16,120 >> and then will we also 5794 02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:18,520 understand once we understand. 5795 02:07:18,589 --> 02:07:20,589 The explanation the. 5796 02:07:20,791 --> 02:07:21,358 Outcome will we understand what 5797 02:07:21,358 --> 02:07:23,758 is what's going to. 5798 02:07:24,329 --> 02:07:25,930 Close the gap to the outcome 5799 02:07:25,930 --> 02:07:26,898 because what we what I think I 5800 02:07:26,898 --> 02:07:29,267 hear you say is that even 5801 02:07:29,267 --> 02:07:31,336 though we're seeing 1500 for 5802 02:07:31,336 --> 02:07:32,470 each petition before there's a 5803 02:07:32,470 --> 02:07:33,738 threshold, there's some other 5804 02:07:33,738 --> 02:07:34,105 mechanism that's looking 5805 02:07:34,105 --> 02:07:35,390 cumulatively. 5806 02:07:35,390 --> 02:07:36,107 Yes. 5807 02:07:36,107 --> 02:07:38,107 >> that's the case. 5808 02:07:38,776 --> 02:07:40,378 The outcome feels like there's 5809 02:07:40,378 --> 02:07:41,813 still uh, an opportunity to 5810 02:07:41,813 --> 02:07:42,180 improve our traffic and 5811 02:07:42,180 --> 02:07:43,415 transportation. 5812 02:07:43,415 --> 02:07:45,316 Planning because what we're 5813 02:07:45,316 --> 02:07:46,418 seeing is overcapacity in these 5814 02:07:46,418 --> 02:07:47,852 particular areas where we're 5815 02:07:47,852 --> 02:07:49,254 building well, we also be 5816 02:07:49,254 --> 02:07:49,587 getting some recommendations. 5817 02:07:49,587 --> 02:07:51,587 >> of. 5818 02:07:52,223 --> 02:07:52,590 What we can do to to make 5819 02:07:52,590 --> 02:07:54,590 adjustments. 5820 02:07:54,592 --> 02:07:55,590 There will be clarity on. 5821 02:07:55,590 --> 02:07:56,394 The way. 5822 02:07:56,394 --> 02:07:57,194 >> that we're presenting the 5823 02:07:57,194 --> 02:07:57,395 information and then we will 5824 02:07:57,395 --> 02:07:57,863 have. 5825 02:07:57,863 --> 02:07:59,431 A a. 5826 02:07:59,431 --> 02:08:00,566 Council conversation if there 5827 02:08:00,566 --> 02:08:01,967 are other changes. 5828 02:08:01,967 --> 02:08:02,600 >> that we should be making. 5829 02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:03,835 Yeah. 5830 02:08:03,835 --> 02:08:04,736 >> so will you be bringing back 5831 02:08:04,736 --> 02:08:05,770 a recommendation? 5832 02:08:05,770 --> 02:08:06,571 I'm trying to get a sense of 5833 02:08:06,571 --> 02:08:07,706 what's gone into committee 5834 02:08:07,706 --> 02:08:08,974 because of what we're going to 5835 02:08:08,974 --> 02:08:10,875 get back is the explanation we 5836 02:08:10,875 --> 02:08:12,777 MAY be able to get that is pre 5837 02:08:12,777 --> 02:08:13,144 work before a committee 5838 02:08:13,144 --> 02:08:14,245 discussion. 5839 02:08:14,245 --> 02:08:15,514 Sure so we can provide we. 5840 02:08:15,514 --> 02:08:17,349 Spent the committee discussion 5841 02:08:17,349 --> 02:08:18,150 on the actual recommendations 5842 02:08:18,150 --> 02:08:19,418 versus the explanation. 5843 02:08:19,418 --> 02:08:19,952 We follow what I'm. 5844 02:08:19,952 --> 02:08:21,952 >> saying. 5845 02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,120 Yes the details. 5846 02:08:24,155 --> 02:08:25,900 Yeah so I I'm. 5847 02:08:25,900 --> 02:08:27,900 >> sorry no good. 5848 02:08:27,459 --> 02:08:28,560 Okay so I think it's important 5849 02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:28,794 I don't know if we have it 5850 02:08:28,794 --> 02:08:29,227 before. 5851 02:08:29,227 --> 02:08:30,462 us to. 5852 02:08:30,462 --> 02:08:31,960 Just go. 5853 02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:32,364 >> over the. 5854 02:08:32,364 --> 02:08:32,999 Referral what the referral 5855 02:08:32,999 --> 02:08:34,999 actually does. 5856 02:08:35,501 --> 02:08:35,868 Yes to make sure that it is 5857 02:08:35,868 --> 02:08:36,402 addressing the. 5858 02:08:36,402 --> 02:08:37,636 Need. 5859 02:08:37,636 --> 02:08:39,305 >> yes yeah. 5860 02:08:39,305 --> 02:08:39,805 We'll take a. 5861 02:08:39,805 --> 02:08:40,706 >> look at. 5862 02:08:40,706 --> 02:08:40,906 >> that so we'll look them up 5863 02:08:40,906 --> 02:08:42,906 okay. 5864 02:08:43,750 --> 02:08:44,943 Okay okay okay. 5865 02:08:44,943 --> 02:08:46,545 Does that happening right now 5866 02:08:46,545 --> 02:08:47,513 or no because if we need to 5867 02:08:47,513 --> 02:08:48,480 adjust the referral this would 5868 02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,480 be the time. 5869 02:08:51,451 --> 02:08:52,585 Uh I believe that the best 5870 02:08:52,585 --> 02:08:54,287 course of action if you're 5871 02:08:54,287 --> 02:08:54,854 asking for my recommendation is 5872 02:08:54,854 --> 02:08:55,388 for us to take a. 5873 02:08:55,388 --> 02:08:57,388 Look at that. 5874 02:08:57,590 --> 02:08:58,724 And work with, um, city 5875 02:08:58,724 --> 02:08:59,825 manager's office to make sure 5876 02:08:59,825 --> 02:09:01,293 that we're in alignment with 5877 02:09:01,293 --> 02:09:02,940 what you need and we can 5878 02:09:02,940 --> 02:09:04,494 provide any of that. 5879 02:09:05,364 --> 02:09:07,433 Pre work via, um, written 5880 02:09:07,433 --> 02:09:08,568 information for you rather than 5881 02:09:08,568 --> 02:09:09,836 playing it out right here today 5882 02:09:09,836 --> 02:09:10,803 because I don't have that 5883 02:09:10,803 --> 02:09:12,538 information with me today. 5884 02:09:12,538 --> 02:09:13,806 So I don't know if that's a 5885 02:09:13,806 --> 02:09:15,541 question for the clerk or 5886 02:09:15,541 --> 02:09:16,809 before we move past this. 5887 02:09:16,809 --> 02:09:19,645 This is the opportunity to 5888 02:09:19,645 --> 02:09:20,913 adjust the referral to capture 5889 02:09:20,913 --> 02:09:21,580 the need that councilmember 5890 02:09:21,580 --> 02:09:23,150 johnson has brought up. 5891 02:09:23,150 --> 02:09:24,583 So if no one has a referral 5892 02:09:24,583 --> 02:09:26,820 right now, is that something 5893 02:09:26,820 --> 02:09:28,254 that we can see before we close 5894 02:09:28,254 --> 02:09:29,220 business today? 5895 02:09:29,220 --> 02:09:29,422 Yes, you already have. 5896 02:09:29,422 --> 02:09:30,523 So I. 5897 02:09:30,523 --> 02:09:30,924 >> understand but what I'm 5898 02:09:30,924 --> 02:09:31,724 saying is that I. 5899 02:09:31,724 --> 02:09:33,126 Just want to reflect. 5900 02:09:33,126 --> 02:09:34,527 Her correct questions. 5901 02:09:34,527 --> 02:09:36,729 so yes thank you. 5902 02:09:36,729 --> 02:09:38,131 Council member mayor. 5903 02:09:38,131 --> 02:09:39,198 Yes. 5904 02:09:39,198 --> 02:09:39,532 >> so since. 5905 02:09:39,532 --> 02:09:39,966 >> we. 5906 02:09:39,966 --> 02:09:40,700 Are talking. 5907 02:09:40,700 --> 02:09:41,634 About feeling. 5908 02:09:41,634 --> 02:09:42,101 Low I would. 5909 02:09:42,101 --> 02:09:43,203 Like to. 5910 02:09:43,203 --> 02:09:45,405 Lift up a one. 5911 02:09:45,405 --> 02:09:46,840 Specific request that's been 5912 02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:47,174 pending for almost a decade or 5913 02:09:47,174 --> 02:09:48,108 longer. 5914 02:09:48,108 --> 02:09:50,108 That's in district. 5915 02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:51,411 Four and I know residents at 5916 02:09:51,411 --> 02:09:51,778 this is right behind that 5917 02:09:51,778 --> 02:09:53,778 pavilion. 5918 02:09:54,647 --> 02:09:55,681 Um amphitheater. 5919 02:09:55,681 --> 02:09:57,830 Where the. 5920 02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:57,450 Neighborhood has. 5921 02:09:57,450 --> 02:09:58,840 Lift up. 5922 02:09:58,840 --> 02:09:58,451 That request. 5923 02:09:58,451 --> 02:09:59,652 Because it. 5924 02:09:59,652 --> 02:10:00,621 >> was between collector and 5925 02:10:00,621 --> 02:10:02,356 the local street. 5926 02:10:02,356 --> 02:10:03,290 Uh, so I would like to make. 5927 02:10:03,290 --> 02:10:04,570 Sure and I think debbie. 5928 02:10:04,570 --> 02:10:04,691 Your team. 5929 02:10:04,691 --> 02:10:05,792 >> has already. 5930 02:10:05,792 --> 02:10:05,959 Looked at that but there was 5931 02:10:05,959 --> 02:10:06,760 no. 5932 02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:07,160 Funding for it. 5933 02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:08,862 But now. 5934 02:10:08,862 --> 02:10:10,297 >> with this being new I would 5935 02:10:10,297 --> 02:10:11,898 like us to make sure because 5936 02:10:11,898 --> 02:10:14,434 that request has been pending 5937 02:10:14,434 --> 02:10:14,768 for many years and the 5938 02:10:14,768 --> 02:10:15,535 neighborhood. 5939 02:10:15,535 --> 02:10:17,535 Has tried. 5940 02:10:20,541 --> 02:10:20,774 Many times trying to get that 5941 02:10:20,774 --> 02:10:21,775 request. 5942 02:10:21,775 --> 02:10:23,210 Infrastructure request. 5943 02:10:23,210 --> 02:10:24,645 Feel so I hope. 5944 02:10:24,645 --> 02:10:26,460 Really with that. 5945 02:10:26,460 --> 02:10:27,881 Okay thank you. 5946 02:10:27,881 --> 02:10:28,315 So do you know which one I'm. 5947 02:10:28,315 --> 02:10:29,416 Talking about. 5948 02:10:29,416 --> 02:10:31,419 I believe I do. 5949 02:10:31,419 --> 02:10:32,853 Yeah right behind that pavilion 5950 02:10:32,853 --> 02:10:33,987 amphitheater councilmember 5951 02:10:33,987 --> 02:10:35,923 johnson has been advocating for 5952 02:10:35,923 --> 02:10:36,724 that for a while and they had 5953 02:10:36,724 --> 02:10:38,292 reached at all. 5954 02:10:38,292 --> 02:10:40,292 Of harris. 5955 02:10:40,294 --> 02:10:40,494 Houston yeah harris hughes 5956 02:10:40,494 --> 02:10:41,620 thank. 5957 02:10:41,620 --> 02:10:41,595 You thank. 5958 02:10:41,595 --> 02:10:42,530 >> you. 5959 02:10:42,530 --> 02:10:42,997 . 5960 02:10:42,997 --> 02:10:44,997 >> yes. 5961 02:10:45,366 --> 02:10:46,800 There any further questions any 5962 02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:47,340 further discussion from 5963 02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:47,434 council. 5964 02:10:47,434 --> 02:10:48,680 >> on. 5965 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:49,803 Item seven? 5966 02:10:49,803 --> 02:10:50,604 Uh the motion with regard to 5967 02:10:50,604 --> 02:10:51,238 street map. 5968 02:10:51,238 --> 02:10:52,172 And street manual. 5969 02:10:52,172 --> 02:10:54,172 No. 5970 02:10:54,842 --> 02:10:57,242 >> is there a uh. 5971 02:10:58,279 --> 02:11:00,140 Motion with regard to item 5972 02:11:00,140 --> 02:11:03,140 seven the proposed changes that 5973 02:11:03,170 --> 02:11:04,752 are in writing um on item seven 5974 02:11:04,752 --> 02:11:06,200 in our um uh. 5975 02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:06,554 Manual uh. 5976 02:11:06,554 --> 02:11:08,121 >> book. 5977 02:11:08,121 --> 02:11:10,521 Is there a motion? 5978 02:11:10,625 --> 02:11:12,270 That ask. 5979 02:11:12,270 --> 02:11:12,494 >> a clarifying. 5980 02:11:12,494 --> 02:11:13,595 >> question. 5981 02:11:13,595 --> 02:11:15,595 Mayor yes. 5982 02:11:15,930 --> 02:11:17,832 Because for item seven is just 5983 02:11:17,832 --> 02:11:18,333 receiving public comment on the 5984 02:11:18,333 --> 02:11:19,267 amendment as well. 5985 02:11:19,267 --> 02:11:20,835 Um, so. 5986 02:11:20,835 --> 02:11:21,680 Yeah so that there is not an 5987 02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:21,302 action. 5988 02:11:21,302 --> 02:11:21,903 This is. 5989 02:11:21,903 --> 02:11:23,304 >> just pop out. 5990 02:11:23,304 --> 02:11:24,238 You're exactly right. 5991 02:11:24,238 --> 02:11:24,772 And this. 5992 02:11:24,772 --> 02:11:26,772 On my little. 5993 02:11:28,377 --> 02:11:29,644 Notes here off so we will uh, 5994 02:11:29,644 --> 02:11:31,713 move on to the public hearing. 5995 02:11:31,713 --> 02:11:33,416 There are no further comments. 5996 02:11:33,416 --> 02:11:35,316 We're now going to open the 5997 02:11:35,316 --> 02:11:35,683 public hearing on the general 5998 02:11:35,683 --> 02:11:37,385 obligation bond. 5999 02:11:37,385 --> 02:11:38,653 Referendum to be set for 6000 02:11:38,653 --> 02:11:40,540 NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026. 6001 02:11:40,540 --> 02:11:40,321 madam clerk, are there any 6002 02:11:40,321 --> 02:11:41,656 speakers. 6003 02:11:41,656 --> 02:11:43,656 On speakers? 6004 02:11:44,625 --> 02:11:46,280 So moved. 6005 02:11:46,280 --> 02:11:47,596 Do we need a motion. 6006 02:11:47,596 --> 02:11:49,164 >> right from the opening? 6007 02:11:49,164 --> 02:11:51,320 Of. 6008 02:11:51,320 --> 02:11:52,133 >> one? 6009 02:11:52,133 --> 02:11:54,133 >> matthew okay. 6010 02:11:54,169 --> 02:11:54,469 Matthew panic. 6011 02:11:54,469 --> 02:11:54,703 >> do. 6012 02:11:54,703 --> 02:11:55,137 I. 6013 02:11:55,137 --> 02:11:55,803 Need to make. 6014 02:11:55,803 --> 02:11:57,803 >> a motion? 6015 02:11:58,139 --> 02:12:00,139 Yes I can. 6016 02:12:10,619 --> 02:12:11,119 Good evening, mayor. 6017 02:12:11,119 --> 02:12:12,521 Harrington council. 6018 02:12:12,521 --> 02:12:13,789 Matt panic I'm with the 6019 02:12:13,789 --> 02:12:14,156 charlotte regional business 6020 02:12:14,156 --> 02:12:16,156 alliance. 6021 02:12:16,324 --> 02:12:18,590 Uh, tonight I'm here to express 6022 02:12:18,590 --> 02:12:18,727 our support for the city bonds 6023 02:12:18,727 --> 02:12:20,129 that are before you. 6024 02:12:20,129 --> 02:12:22,129 Um, um. 6025 02:12:22,164 --> 02:12:23,499 >> and I'm not here to. 6026 02:12:23,499 --> 02:12:24,934 >> speak for for one one 6027 02:12:24,934 --> 02:12:26,368 industry or one company but 6028 02:12:26,368 --> 02:12:27,360 really all the thousands of 6029 02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:28,604 businesses and all the 6030 02:12:28,604 --> 02:12:30,839 residents here um, in the city 6031 02:12:30,839 --> 02:12:32,107 of charlotte everyone wants 6032 02:12:32,107 --> 02:12:32,775 every resident in every 6033 02:12:32,775 --> 02:12:34,775 neighborhood throughout the 6034 02:12:35,477 --> 02:12:36,278 city to succeed, to have that 6035 02:12:36,278 --> 02:12:37,279 opportunity to to better 6036 02:12:37,279 --> 02:12:39,279 themselves advance themselves. 6037 02:12:39,749 --> 02:12:41,170 That is the charlotte that has 6038 02:12:41,170 --> 02:12:42,318 been the foundation for success 6039 02:12:42,318 --> 02:12:44,520 for so many residents over the 6040 02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:45,821 years and the charlotte that 6041 02:12:45,821 --> 02:12:46,656 has attracted so many 6042 02:12:46,656 --> 02:12:48,230 additional residents. 6043 02:12:48,230 --> 02:12:48,858 Um they've come to our city 6044 02:12:48,858 --> 02:12:50,893 over the years as well. 6045 02:12:50,893 --> 02:12:51,694 The bonds before you tonight 6046 02:12:51,694 --> 02:12:52,160 represent a continued. 6047 02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:53,395 Commitment of. 6048 02:12:53,395 --> 02:12:54,363 >> charlotte to being 6049 02:12:54,363 --> 02:12:56,433 responsive to the needs of 6050 02:12:56,433 --> 02:12:58,201 residents and creating a world 6051 02:12:58,201 --> 02:13:00,370 class city for its residents. 6052 02:13:00,370 --> 02:13:01,104 The investment in 6053 02:13:01,104 --> 02:13:02,171 transportation, neighborhoods 6054 02:13:02,171 --> 02:13:03,106 and affordable housing builds 6055 02:13:03,106 --> 02:13:04,207 on prior bonds. 6056 02:13:04,207 --> 02:13:05,942 And is. 6057 02:13:05,942 --> 02:13:07,942 >> incredibly impactful for 6058 02:13:08,144 --> 02:13:09,445 residents notably the $125 6059 02:13:09,445 --> 02:13:11,845 million for affordable housing 6060 02:13:11,981 --> 02:13:14,351 is historic in its amount and 6061 02:13:14,351 --> 02:13:15,952 will be critical in addressing 6062 02:13:15,952 --> 02:13:16,920 continued housing shortages 6063 02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:17,253 facing many neighborhoods 6064 02:13:17,253 --> 02:13:17,720 throughout. 6065 02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:19,589 The city. 6066 02:13:19,589 --> 02:13:20,857 The bonds essentially allow. 6067 02:13:20,857 --> 02:13:22,910 Charlotte to keep up with the 6068 02:13:22,910 --> 02:13:24,910 important infrastructure needs 6069 02:13:24,460 --> 02:13:25,428 that make the city so livable 6070 02:13:25,428 --> 02:13:27,300 connected roads, affordable 6071 02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:28,297 housing, strong neighborhoods 6072 02:13:28,297 --> 02:13:30,330 that's a recipe for a strong 6073 02:13:30,330 --> 02:13:31,635 city brought together the bonds 6074 02:13:31,635 --> 02:13:32,769 help the city keep up with the 6075 02:13:32,769 --> 02:13:33,737 needs of residents as they live 6076 02:13:33,737 --> 02:13:35,605 their lives. 6077 02:13:35,605 --> 02:13:36,873 Go to work, go to school to 6078 02:13:36,873 --> 02:13:37,541 enjoy restaurants and 6079 02:13:37,541 --> 02:13:37,807 entertainment throughout 6080 02:13:37,807 --> 02:13:39,776 charlotte. 6081 02:13:39,776 --> 02:13:41,344 Simply put the bonds ensure 6082 02:13:41,344 --> 02:13:43,113 that quality of life remains 6083 02:13:43,113 --> 02:13:43,313 high for residents in charlotte 6084 02:13:43,313 --> 02:13:44,848 . 6085 02:13:44,848 --> 02:13:46,583 The alliance has long. 6086 02:13:46,583 --> 02:13:47,116 Partnered with the city. 6087 02:13:47,116 --> 02:13:48,218 >> and. 6088 02:13:48,218 --> 02:13:50,120 Community leaders to shepherd 6089 02:13:50,120 --> 02:13:51,855 the bonds to voter approval. 6090 02:13:51,855 --> 02:13:54,255 We appreciate your foresight 6091 02:13:54,358 --> 02:13:55,192 tonight on the bonds and your 6092 02:13:55,192 --> 02:13:57,192 consideration going forward. 6093 02:13:57,227 --> 02:13:58,195 Moving forward on the bonds is 6094 02:13:58,195 --> 02:13:59,930 an important step for 6095 02:13:59,930 --> 02:14:01,930 residents, your constituents 6096 02:14:01,998 --> 02:14:03,133 and is a signal to them that 6097 02:14:03,133 --> 02:14:04,567 charlotte continues to invest 6098 02:14:04,567 --> 02:14:04,835 in meaningful ways in our 6099 02:14:04,835 --> 02:14:06,537 community. 6100 02:14:06,537 --> 02:14:08,105 Thank you very much. 6101 02:14:08,105 --> 02:14:09,840 thank you, MR. Panic. 6102 02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:11,750 Do you have a. 6103 02:14:11,750 --> 02:14:12,176 Motion to close the public. 6104 02:14:12,176 --> 02:14:14,176 >> hearing second okay. 6105 02:14:14,978 --> 02:14:17,214 And a motion to adopt bond 6106 02:14:17,214 --> 02:14:18,582 orders introduced for $280 6107 02:14:18,582 --> 02:14:20,982 million of transportation bonds 6108 02:14:20,984 --> 02:14:21,284 ,$20 million of neighborhood 6109 02:14:21,284 --> 02:14:22,252 improvement. 6110 02:14:22,252 --> 02:14:24,252 Bonds and. 6111 02:14:24,922 --> 02:14:25,256 $125 million of house housing 6112 02:14:25,256 --> 02:14:26,357 bonds. 6113 02:14:26,357 --> 02:14:28,357 And adopt a. 6114 02:14:28,359 --> 02:14:28,859 Resolution setting the general 6115 02:14:28,859 --> 02:14:30,859 obligation bond. 6116 02:14:31,862 --> 02:14:32,329 Referendum for NOVEMBER 3rd 6117 02:14:32,329 --> 02:14:33,264 2026 is to. 6118 02:14:33,264 --> 02:14:34,698 Adopt b and c. 6119 02:14:34,698 --> 02:14:36,400 And those that you. 6120 02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:36,734 Asked for a motion to close the 6121 02:14:36,734 --> 02:14:37,434 hearing. 6122 02:14:37,434 --> 02:14:38,435 >> so do we need. 6123 02:14:38,435 --> 02:14:39,938 >> to vote on that separately? 6124 02:14:39,938 --> 02:14:41,239 I would move to close the 6125 02:14:41,239 --> 02:14:43,107 hearing and approve b and c. 6126 02:14:43,107 --> 02:14:44,750 Since we've got the motion out 6127 02:14:44,750 --> 02:14:44,275 there let's just go ahead and 6128 02:14:44,275 --> 02:14:46,275 vote. 6129 02:14:46,778 --> 02:14:47,278 On closing the hearing if 6130 02:14:47,278 --> 02:14:48,379 that's okay. 6131 02:14:48,379 --> 02:14:50,581 Thank you for that. 6132 02:14:50,581 --> 02:14:53,217 Is there any um any discussion 6133 02:14:53,217 --> 02:14:54,185 all in favor any opposed? 6134 02:14:54,185 --> 02:14:56,530 All right. 6135 02:14:56,530 --> 02:14:58,590 Let's move to the um, motion 6136 02:14:58,590 --> 02:15:00,625 itself to adopt the bond orders 6137 02:15:00,625 --> 02:15:01,393 uh, introduced for the $280 6138 02:15:01,393 --> 02:15:01,660 million of transportation. 6139 02:15:01,660 --> 02:15:03,528 Bond. 6140 02:15:03,528 --> 02:15:03,828 >> $20 million of neighborhood 6141 02:15:03,828 --> 02:15:04,162 improvement. 6142 02:15:04,162 --> 02:15:06,162 Bonds. 6143 02:15:06,197 --> 02:15:07,131 >> $125 million of housing. 6144 02:15:07,131 --> 02:15:08,866 Bonds and to. 6145 02:15:08,866 --> 02:15:09,100 Adopt a resolution setting the 6146 02:15:09,100 --> 02:15:10,134 general. 6147 02:15:10,134 --> 02:15:12,134 Obligation bond. 6148 02:15:12,803 --> 02:15:13,400 Referendum for NOVEMBER 3rd 6149 02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:14,400 2026. 6150 02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:15,707 Is there a motion so moved? 6151 02:15:15,707 --> 02:15:16,174 so any discussion? 6152 02:15:16,174 --> 02:15:18,174 Yes. 6153 02:15:18,210 --> 02:15:20,210 >> council councilmember what. 6154 02:15:20,579 --> 02:15:21,213 So on the one 6875 I must 6155 02:15:21,213 --> 02:15:21,846 recuse myself. 6156 02:15:21,846 --> 02:15:22,280 >> from this but. 6157 02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:22,714 I can't. 6158 02:15:22,714 --> 02:15:24,714 >> hear. 6159 02:15:24,882 --> 02:15:26,251 You accusing. 6160 02:15:26,251 --> 02:15:27,152 Okay got. 6161 02:15:27,152 --> 02:15:28,653 >> it okay. 6162 02:15:28,653 --> 02:15:28,953 >> are there is there any other 6163 02:15:28,953 --> 02:15:30,555 discussion? 6164 02:15:30,555 --> 02:15:31,522 Council member watlington has 6165 02:15:31,522 --> 02:15:31,722 recused council member as 6166 02:15:31,722 --> 02:15:32,190 mayor. 6167 02:15:32,190 --> 02:15:33,125 Yes. 6168 02:15:33,125 --> 02:15:33,492 >> uh, thanks. 6169 02:15:33,492 --> 02:15:35,492 >> to. 6170 02:15:35,994 --> 02:15:37,129 The business alliance for your 6171 02:15:37,129 --> 02:15:37,296 continued support with the bond 6172 02:15:37,296 --> 02:15:39,296 . 6173 02:15:41,833 --> 02:15:42,969 Uh, this is $425 million in our 6174 02:15:42,969 --> 02:15:44,102 infrastructure and we often 6175 02:15:44,102 --> 02:15:44,269 hear during our zoning meetings 6176 02:15:44,269 --> 02:15:46,171 . 6177 02:15:46,171 --> 02:15:47,405 There are cities growing and 6178 02:15:47,405 --> 02:15:47,906 our infrastructure has to keep 6179 02:15:47,906 --> 02:15:49,775 up with it. 6180 02:15:49,775 --> 02:15:50,376 So this is a step forward. 6181 02:15:50,376 --> 02:15:51,343 Appreciate the. 6182 02:15:51,343 --> 02:15:51,810 Work of the. 6183 02:15:51,810 --> 02:15:53,679 Budget team. 6184 02:15:53,679 --> 02:15:55,247 MR. Jones, um. 6185 02:15:55,247 --> 02:15:55,714 For helping us. 6186 02:15:55,714 --> 02:15:57,149 Uh. 6187 02:15:57,149 --> 02:15:58,217 >> with capital investment. 6188 02:15:58,217 --> 02:16:00,850 So now. 6189 02:16:00,850 --> 02:16:02,454 Um, let's hope that we continue 6190 02:16:02,454 --> 02:16:02,788 to deliver the projects in a 6191 02:16:02,788 --> 02:16:03,922 record time. 6192 02:16:03,922 --> 02:16:04,823 That's all I have. 6193 02:16:04,823 --> 02:16:06,358 >> this is about safe. 6194 02:16:06,358 --> 02:16:06,625 Roads and safe infrastructure. 6195 02:16:06,625 --> 02:16:07,693 Thank you. 6196 02:16:07,693 --> 02:16:08,928 >> thank you council members. 6197 02:16:08,928 --> 02:16:10,196 Mayor, are there any other 6198 02:16:10,196 --> 02:16:12,196 questions or comments. 6199 02:16:12,698 --> 02:16:12,898 About item number eight. 6200 02:16:12,898 --> 02:16:14,898 ? 6201 02:16:16,100 --> 02:16:16,368 okay next question on the uh 6202 02:16:16,368 --> 02:16:18,368 the vote. 6203 02:16:18,403 --> 02:16:19,672 All in favor please raise your 6204 02:16:19,672 --> 02:16:20,773 hand of the motion as outlined. 6205 02:16:20,773 --> 02:16:22,773 Any opposed. 6206 02:16:23,742 --> 02:16:25,742 Motion carries okay. 6207 02:16:26,245 --> 02:16:27,980 Next on our agenda is the, uh, 6208 02:16:27,980 --> 02:16:28,648 city manager's report in our 6209 02:16:28,648 --> 02:16:30,648 policy section. 6210 02:16:34,420 --> 02:16:35,721 We deferred discussion of, um, 6211 02:16:35,721 --> 02:16:37,890 12345 items from our consent. 6212 02:16:37,890 --> 02:16:37,456 Agenda that were pulled. 6213 02:16:37,456 --> 02:16:38,190 Out of the. 6214 02:16:38,190 --> 02:16:38,657 >> consent agenda. 6215 02:16:38,657 --> 02:16:40,920 Uh. 6216 02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:40,292 >> would like to proceed with 6217 02:16:40,292 --> 02:16:41,360 that. 6218 02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:43,360 Discussion now. 6219 02:16:45,598 --> 02:16:46,320 And that the five items were. 6220 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:48,320 >> 23. 6221 02:16:51,203 --> 02:16:53,203 36, 45, 47 and 48 and um. 6222 02:16:53,239 --> 02:16:55,239 On 20. 6223 02:16:57,443 --> 02:16:58,277 23 I believe that was 6224 02:16:58,277 --> 02:17:00,277 councilmember johnson. 6225 02:17:00,313 --> 02:17:02,313 Yeah. 6226 02:17:02,782 --> 02:17:03,750 >> I just wanted it pulled out. 6227 02:17:03,750 --> 02:17:05,151 For discussion. 6228 02:17:05,151 --> 02:17:06,850 Here more about it. 6229 02:17:06,850 --> 02:17:06,953 >> which one? 6230 02:17:06,953 --> 02:17:08,953 >> number 23 correct. 6231 02:17:08,988 --> 02:17:10,390 Yes, that's the question. 6232 02:17:10,390 --> 02:17:11,324 I just wanted. 6233 02:17:11,324 --> 02:17:12,258 Uh pulled out. 6234 02:17:12,258 --> 02:17:13,192 Can you give us some. 6235 02:17:13,192 --> 02:17:14,761 Information about this project? 6236 02:17:14,761 --> 02:17:16,761 Sure. 6237 02:17:16,929 --> 02:17:17,231 >> um, this is a great 6238 02:17:17,231 --> 02:17:17,764 news story. 6239 02:17:17,764 --> 02:17:18,232 It supports. 6240 02:17:18,232 --> 02:17:19,299 Mobility. 6241 02:17:19,299 --> 02:17:20,267 >> accessibility and vision. 6242 02:17:20,267 --> 02:17:21,335 Zero goals. 6243 02:17:21,335 --> 02:17:22,602 We're going to be. 6244 02:17:22,602 --> 02:17:24,171 Constructing new sidewalk. 6245 02:17:24,171 --> 02:17:24,538 >> we're going to be. 6246 02:17:24,538 --> 02:17:25,805 Closing some. 6247 02:17:25,805 --> 02:17:26,740 >> gaps in sidewalk. 6248 02:17:26,740 --> 02:17:28,740 Uh, building. 6249 02:17:28,942 --> 02:17:29,276 Curb ramps and pedestrian 6250 02:17:29,276 --> 02:17:30,543 crossings. 6251 02:17:30,543 --> 02:17:31,778 um, and this is a. 6252 02:17:31,778 --> 02:17:32,312 Long including along. 6253 02:17:32,312 --> 02:17:33,790 >> an. 6254 02:17:33,790 --> 02:17:33,379 Intersection at one of the. 6255 02:17:33,379 --> 02:17:35,820 City's high. 6256 02:17:35,820 --> 02:17:35,416 >> injury networks 6257 02:17:35,416 --> 02:17:37,416 intersections. 6258 02:17:37,618 --> 02:17:37,951 This crosses between district 6259 02:17:37,951 --> 02:17:39,353 four and. 6260 02:17:39,353 --> 02:17:39,653 District five. 6261 02:17:39,653 --> 02:17:41,222 And. 6262 02:17:41,222 --> 02:17:42,322 Um you MAY have seen. 6263 02:17:42,322 --> 02:17:43,257 >> this on the list that. 6264 02:17:43,257 --> 02:17:44,658 Cdot provided in your. 6265 02:17:44,658 --> 02:17:45,425 Packet last thursday. 6266 02:17:45,425 --> 02:17:46,593 This is. 6267 02:17:46,593 --> 02:17:47,260 >> one of those projects that 6268 02:17:47,260 --> 02:17:47,894 has helped them. 6269 02:17:47,894 --> 02:17:48,695 Meet their. 6270 02:17:48,695 --> 02:17:49,462 >> performance metric. 6271 02:17:49,462 --> 02:17:51,310 Okay I just. 6272 02:17:51,310 --> 02:17:51,364 >> wanted to hear more about it 6273 02:17:51,364 --> 02:17:52,934 okay. 6274 02:17:52,934 --> 02:17:54,802 Okay okay go ahead. 6275 02:17:54,802 --> 02:17:55,269 Council member suara harris. 6276 02:17:55,269 --> 02:17:55,870 Yeah thank. 6277 02:17:55,870 --> 02:17:56,504 >> you mayor. 6278 02:17:56,504 --> 02:17:57,771 >> I just want to. 6279 02:17:57,771 --> 02:17:58,239 Thank staff for their work. 6280 02:17:58,239 --> 02:17:59,806 On this. 6281 02:17:59,806 --> 02:18:00,741 Uh deeply appreciate it. 6282 02:18:00,741 --> 02:18:01,675 As you know, uh. 6283 02:18:01,675 --> 02:18:02,309 >> this council one. 6284 02:18:02,309 --> 02:18:03,710 Of this. 6285 02:18:03,710 --> 02:18:04,845 >> council's priorities is 6286 02:18:04,845 --> 02:18:05,779 vision zero and. 6287 02:18:05,779 --> 02:18:06,713 Reducing, uh. 6288 02:18:06,713 --> 02:18:08,281 Traffic fatalities. 6289 02:18:08,281 --> 02:18:08,749 Across the city of charlotte. 6290 02:18:08,749 --> 02:18:09,984 Um. 6291 02:18:09,984 --> 02:18:10,372 >> and particularly with 6292 02:18:10,372 --> 02:18:12,530 district. 6293 02:18:12,530 --> 02:18:12,386 Five which has seen an enormous 6294 02:18:12,386 --> 02:18:12,854 amount. 6295 02:18:12,854 --> 02:18:14,255 Of uh. 6296 02:18:14,255 --> 02:18:15,523 Traffic fatalities. 6297 02:18:15,523 --> 02:18:16,791 And just deeply appreciate that 6298 02:18:16,791 --> 02:18:17,491 this being focused. 6299 02:18:17,491 --> 02:18:18,425 >> and invest in our. 6300 02:18:18,425 --> 02:18:19,260 Community particularly a high 6301 02:18:19,260 --> 02:18:20,661 injury network. 6302 02:18:20,661 --> 02:18:20,861 So thank you all for for the 6303 02:18:20,861 --> 02:18:21,795 work. 6304 02:18:21,795 --> 02:18:22,396 Appreciate it. 6305 02:18:22,396 --> 02:18:22,896 >> thank you. 6306 02:18:22,896 --> 02:18:23,964 Thank you. 6307 02:18:23,964 --> 02:18:24,798 Council member any other 6308 02:18:24,798 --> 02:18:26,333 questions or comments. 6309 02:18:26,333 --> 02:18:28,333 On item 23? 6310 02:18:28,703 --> 02:18:30,238 Okay. 6311 02:18:30,238 --> 02:18:31,806 Is there a motion. 6312 02:18:31,806 --> 02:18:32,140 To approve okay. 6313 02:18:32,140 --> 02:18:33,541 . 6314 02:18:33,541 --> 02:18:33,841 >> second any further 6315 02:18:33,841 --> 02:18:35,841 discussion. 6316 02:18:35,910 --> 02:18:37,440 All right the motion is to 6317 02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:40,440 approve the contract in the 6318 02:18:43,170 --> 02:18:43,951 amount of 661,000 6319 02:18:43,951 --> 02:18:45,520 $661,661,706.65 to the lowest 6320 02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:47,520 responsive bidder responsible 6321 02:18:47,622 --> 02:18:49,240 bidder carolina cajun concrete 6322 02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:51,920 inc. For the W.T. Harris 6323 02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:51,426 boulevard and greer road 6324 02:18:51,426 --> 02:18:52,694 intersection. 6325 02:18:52,694 --> 02:18:53,461 And sidewalk project. 6326 02:18:53,461 --> 02:18:54,729 >> we're ripe for a vote. 6327 02:18:54,729 --> 02:18:55,830 All in favor raise your hand. 6328 02:18:55,830 --> 02:18:57,830 Any opposed? 6329 02:18:57,865 --> 02:18:59,865 Motion passes. 6330 02:19:01,135 --> 02:19:04,135 Uh, council member uh, mayfield 6331 02:19:04,139 --> 02:19:05,874 I believe you had items 36, 45 6332 02:19:05,874 --> 02:19:06,808 ,47 and 48. 6333 02:19:06,808 --> 02:19:07,909 Correct. 6334 02:19:07,909 --> 02:19:10,309 >> and please proceed with 36. 6335 02:19:10,312 --> 02:19:11,813 Thank you, mayor harrington. 6336 02:19:11,813 --> 02:19:13,381 So for. 6337 02:19:13,381 --> 02:19:14,482 Item 36 which. 6338 02:19:14,482 --> 02:19:14,849 Is a. 6339 02:19:14,849 --> 02:19:15,517 Request to. 6340 02:19:15,517 --> 02:19:17,517 >> approve a. 6341 02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:21,119 Contract in the in the amount 6342 02:19:22,910 --> 02:19:22,725 of $1,203,308.75 to the lowest 6343 02:19:22,725 --> 02:19:24,725 responsive bidder. 6344 02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:25,294 What I wanted why. 6345 02:19:25,294 --> 02:19:26,695 >> I reached. 6346 02:19:26,695 --> 02:19:27,796 Out to staff because we all 6347 02:19:27,796 --> 02:19:29,531 know received one be it. 6348 02:19:29,531 --> 02:19:30,332 So that's not the. 6349 02:19:30,332 --> 02:19:31,733 Lowest responsive bidder. 6350 02:19:31,733 --> 02:19:32,667 That's the only bidder. 6351 02:19:32,667 --> 02:19:34,667 so the. 6352 02:19:35,169 --> 02:19:38,641 First question that I asked was 6353 02:19:38,641 --> 02:19:39,742 one why did I go back out for 6354 02:19:39,742 --> 02:19:40,676 an additional be it. 6355 02:19:40,676 --> 02:19:42,676 What we. 6356 02:19:44,146 --> 02:19:44,780 >> have in here in our language 6357 02:19:44,780 --> 02:19:46,780 is that. 6358 02:19:49,151 --> 02:19:49,418 Initially no it's well 6359 02:19:49,418 --> 02:19:51,418 received. 6360 02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:54,550 So the question that I asked is 6361 02:19:54,550 --> 02:19:54,724 what was in our language and 6362 02:19:54,724 --> 02:19:56,724 did we do. 6363 02:19:56,759 --> 02:19:57,159 An inquiry. 6364 02:19:57,159 --> 02:19:57,693 To try. 6365 02:19:57,693 --> 02:19:58,327 >> to. 6366 02:19:58,327 --> 02:19:59,262 Identify why. 6367 02:19:59,262 --> 02:20:01,130 There was. 6368 02:20:01,130 --> 02:20:02,698 No bid on initially and when. 6369 02:20:02,698 --> 02:20:05,980 We sent it out. 6370 02:20:05,835 --> 02:20:07,835 For a re-issue. 6371 02:20:08,170 --> 02:20:08,670 >> on in JULY only one bid was 6372 02:20:08,670 --> 02:20:10,205 received then. 6373 02:20:10,205 --> 02:20:11,640 Yes ma'am. 6374 02:20:11,640 --> 02:20:12,242 Um excuse. 6375 02:20:12,242 --> 02:20:13,576 Me stormwater. 6376 02:20:13,576 --> 02:20:14,377 Did reach out to some. 6377 02:20:14,377 --> 02:20:15,311 Contractors that. 6378 02:20:15,311 --> 02:20:16,246 Frequently bid on. 6379 02:20:16,246 --> 02:20:17,947 Stormwater projects. 6380 02:20:17,947 --> 02:20:19,248 Um, to ask those same kinds of 6381 02:20:19,248 --> 02:20:20,182 questions that you just asked. 6382 02:20:20,182 --> 02:20:20,816 . 6383 02:20:20,816 --> 02:20:21,751 And this. 6384 02:20:21,751 --> 02:20:23,285 Project um. 6385 02:20:23,285 --> 02:20:24,253 ,requires the protection of. 6386 02:20:24,253 --> 02:20:25,721 >> the fish habitat. 6387 02:20:25,721 --> 02:20:27,721 Through construction. 6388 02:20:27,990 --> 02:20:29,124 And so because of that it 6389 02:20:29,124 --> 02:20:29,526 requires some specialized work. 6390 02:20:29,526 --> 02:20:29,993 You have. 6391 02:20:29,993 --> 02:20:31,695 To maintain. 6392 02:20:31,695 --> 02:20:32,629 Water levels at um. 6393 02:20:32,629 --> 02:20:33,960 A certain height. 6394 02:20:33,960 --> 02:20:34,197 >> to. 6395 02:20:34,197 --> 02:20:34,730 To keep oxygen for. 6396 02:20:34,730 --> 02:20:36,466 >> the fish. 6397 02:20:36,466 --> 02:20:36,799 And so because of that there 6398 02:20:36,799 --> 02:20:37,834 are. 6399 02:20:37,834 --> 02:20:39,302 Few contractors. 6400 02:20:39,302 --> 02:20:41,700 That um. 6401 02:20:41,700 --> 02:20:42,138 are interested in performing 6402 02:20:42,138 --> 02:20:42,771 the working that can perform. 6403 02:20:42,771 --> 02:20:44,173 The work. 6404 02:20:44,173 --> 02:20:44,674 The the other reason. 6405 02:20:44,674 --> 02:20:45,741 >> that. 6406 02:20:45,741 --> 02:20:46,475 Staff that uh perhaps. 6407 02:20:46,475 --> 02:20:47,210 >> it didn't receive. 6408 02:20:47,210 --> 02:20:47,711 Any bids is. 6409 02:20:47,711 --> 02:20:48,178 >> because. 6410 02:20:48,178 --> 02:20:48,411 There's an abundance. 6411 02:20:48,411 --> 02:20:49,212 Of work. 6412 02:20:49,212 --> 02:20:49,612 >> available right now. 6413 02:20:49,612 --> 02:20:50,347 >> and. 6414 02:20:50,347 --> 02:20:51,140 So this specialized work. 6415 02:20:51,140 --> 02:20:51,414 >> is a little bit. 6416 02:20:51,414 --> 02:20:53,414 Less attractive. 6417 02:20:53,550 --> 02:20:55,451 And that was just a 6418 02:20:55,451 --> 02:20:57,851 clarification that I wanted 6419 02:20:57,988 --> 02:20:59,422 whereas we're having to 6420 02:20:59,422 --> 02:21:01,491 transition based off of federal 6421 02:21:01,491 --> 02:21:03,226 and state language when we're 6422 02:21:03,226 --> 02:21:06,226 putting out bids making sure. 6423 02:21:06,363 --> 02:21:07,197 That we're creating as many 6424 02:21:07,197 --> 02:21:09,197 opportunities as possible. 6425 02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,300 But yet because this needing a 6426 02:21:13,300 --> 02:21:16,300 specific skill set because of 6427 02:21:16,773 --> 02:21:17,407 the fish aquariums safety. 6428 02:21:17,407 --> 02:21:19,275 Measures that. 6429 02:21:19,275 --> 02:21:19,609 >> needed to happen as one. 6430 02:21:19,609 --> 02:21:20,910 >> did. 6431 02:21:20,910 --> 02:21:23,113 For us to be able to identify 6432 02:21:23,113 --> 02:21:24,715 that move to approve and be. 6433 02:21:24,715 --> 02:21:26,715 Second any further. 6434 02:21:26,884 --> 02:21:28,884 Discussion all in. 6435 02:21:29,686 --> 02:21:30,821 Favor of approving a and b and 6436 02:21:30,821 --> 02:21:31,255 item agenda item. 6437 02:21:31,255 --> 02:21:31,989 36 please. 6438 02:21:31,989 --> 02:21:33,890 >> raise your hand. 6439 02:21:33,890 --> 02:21:33,724 . 6440 02:21:33,724 --> 02:21:34,324 >> any opposed? 6441 02:21:34,324 --> 02:21:35,258 All right. 6442 02:21:35,258 --> 02:21:37,258 Motion passes. 6443 02:21:39,797 --> 02:21:42,797 Uh, council member we have 45. 6444 02:21:48,239 --> 02:21:50,574 Actually my question is for 46. 6445 02:21:50,574 --> 02:21:51,708 So for 45 moved to adopt a 6446 02:21:51,708 --> 02:21:52,643 resolution authorizing. 6447 02:21:52,643 --> 02:21:54,643 >> the refiner property. 6448 02:21:55,445 --> 02:21:57,982 Tax assessor to declare or 6449 02:21:57,982 --> 02:21:59,283 assessment errors in the amount 6450 02:21:59,283 --> 02:22:01,283 of $8,030.50. 6451 02:22:02,386 --> 02:22:03,187 so question about 40. 6452 02:22:03,187 --> 02:22:03,721 That just. 6453 02:22:03,721 --> 02:22:04,355 Moved to approve. 6454 02:22:04,355 --> 02:22:06,900 >> it second. 6455 02:22:06,900 --> 02:22:06,257 Second um any further questions 6456 02:22:06,257 --> 02:22:06,891 ? 6457 02:22:06,891 --> 02:22:08,425 All right. 6458 02:22:08,425 --> 02:22:09,393 All in favor raise your hand. 6459 02:22:09,393 --> 02:22:11,393 Any opposed? 6460 02:22:12,363 --> 02:22:14,365 All right so 46 carries. 6461 02:22:14,365 --> 02:22:15,800 Himself I'm sorry mayor, just. 6462 02:22:15,800 --> 02:22:16,734 >> to clarify I believe. 6463 02:22:16,734 --> 02:22:18,734 46 was. 6464 02:22:19,370 --> 02:22:19,704 Approved in room 267 okay. 6465 02:22:19,704 --> 02:22:20,238 And it. 6466 02:22:20,238 --> 02:22:21,806 >> was. 6467 02:22:21,806 --> 02:22:23,207 45 that was pulled. 6468 02:22:23,207 --> 02:22:23,841 It's what. 6469 02:22:23,841 --> 02:22:24,308 >> I thought. 6470 02:22:24,308 --> 02:22:25,420 So I think. 6471 02:22:25,420 --> 02:22:25,543 45 is the. 6472 02:22:25,543 --> 02:22:25,943 >> one we. 6473 02:22:25,943 --> 02:22:27,645 Either need. 6474 02:22:27,645 --> 02:22:29,800 Questions or a motion. 6475 02:22:29,800 --> 02:22:31,480 >> and then 47 yes ma'am. 6476 02:22:31,716 --> 02:22:32,150 So 45 are we. 6477 02:22:32,150 --> 02:22:33,685 >> set. 6478 02:22:33,685 --> 02:22:34,386 And then 47 was. 6479 02:22:34,386 --> 02:22:35,253 >> what we so. 6480 02:22:35,253 --> 02:22:35,787 >> we're good on 45. 6481 02:22:35,787 --> 02:22:36,421 >> oh. 6482 02:22:36,421 --> 02:22:37,389 Yes in. 6483 02:22:37,389 --> 02:22:39,290 47 I need. 6484 02:22:39,290 --> 02:22:40,691 >> to vote on so 46 is not. 6485 02:22:40,691 --> 02:22:41,920 We voted. 6486 02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:43,920 >> on. 6487 02:22:44,229 --> 02:22:45,329 25 we voted on 4547. 6488 02:22:45,329 --> 02:22:45,797 >> is the 47. 6489 02:22:45,797 --> 02:22:46,264 Is missing. 6490 02:22:46,264 --> 02:22:47,832 Right now. 6491 02:22:47,832 --> 02:22:49,233 >> but okay 47. 6492 02:22:49,233 --> 02:22:51,233 Yes thank. 6493 02:22:51,570 --> 02:22:51,770 You ma'am it's at 47 is the one 6494 02:22:51,770 --> 02:22:52,704 I. 6495 02:22:52,704 --> 02:22:54,704 Ask for. 6496 02:22:54,873 --> 02:22:56,274 Discussion so I. 6497 02:22:56,274 --> 02:22:58,274 Wanted to clarify. 6498 02:22:58,310 --> 02:23:00,310 This is a. 6499 02:23:01,346 --> 02:23:03,346 Me request for. 6500 02:23:04,782 --> 02:23:06,351 You know my. 6501 02:23:06,351 --> 02:23:08,351 numbers are okay. 6502 02:23:09,788 --> 02:23:11,356 My apologies mary ten. 6503 02:23:11,356 --> 02:23:13,356 Uh right here. 6504 02:23:14,626 --> 02:23:16,228 I've had is doing something a 6505 02:23:16,228 --> 02:23:18,628 little interesting over here. 6506 02:23:19,665 --> 02:23:22,330 So item 46 which we just 6507 02:23:22,330 --> 02:23:22,367 approve it was asking staff to 6508 02:23:22,367 --> 02:23:24,367 give give. 6509 02:23:24,737 --> 02:23:26,171 Us another column because the 6510 02:23:26,171 --> 02:23:28,571 columns that was initially 6511 02:23:28,707 --> 02:23:29,374 presented just had the net levy 6512 02:23:29,374 --> 02:23:31,374 levied uncollected amount. 6513 02:23:31,844 --> 02:23:33,579 In 3% that was collected. 6514 02:23:33,579 --> 02:23:34,313 I wanted us to have an 6515 02:23:34,313 --> 02:23:34,813 additional column with. 6516 02:23:34,813 --> 02:23:36,181 >> the. 6517 02:23:36,181 --> 02:23:37,916 Total amount that's been 6518 02:23:37,916 --> 02:23:39,500 collected up to date to just. 6519 02:23:39,500 --> 02:23:41,500 Clarify those numbers. 6520 02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:44,560 So for the minutes that's why I 6521 02:23:44,560 --> 02:23:44,857 had pull item number 46 to make 6522 02:23:44,857 --> 02:23:45,324 sure that we have. 6523 02:23:45,324 --> 02:23:47,590 >> an. 6524 02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:47,426 Opportunity to have the full 6525 02:23:47,426 --> 02:23:49,426 clarification. 6526 02:23:49,895 --> 02:23:54,950 But we did just pull that item. 6527 02:23:55,534 --> 02:23:55,868 For item 47 which I asked to be 6528 02:23:55,868 --> 02:23:57,269 pulled. 6529 02:23:57,269 --> 02:23:57,469 Is that in the public hearing 6530 02:23:57,469 --> 02:23:58,404 on. 6531 02:23:58,404 --> 02:23:59,339 The jefferson. 6532 02:23:59,339 --> 02:24:01,339 First union. 6533 02:24:02,141 --> 02:24:04,430 Tower district landmark, the 6534 02:24:04,430 --> 02:24:07,430 specific question that I asked 6535 02:24:09,810 --> 02:24:10,816 for staff was what is the true. 6536 02:24:10,816 --> 02:24:12,351 Impact of. 6537 02:24:12,351 --> 02:24:14,351 Deferred taxes. 6538 02:24:15,654 --> 02:24:15,988 If this is approved as well as 6539 02:24:15,988 --> 02:24:17,988 when we. 6540 02:24:18,792 --> 02:24:21,270 Take into consideration the 6541 02:24:21,270 --> 02:24:22,295 state is having discussions on 6542 02:24:22,295 --> 02:24:24,295 limiting access taxing. 6543 02:24:25,265 --> 02:24:26,566 Authority in the future and 6544 02:24:26,566 --> 02:24:28,134 staff was going to check into 6545 02:24:28,134 --> 02:24:28,401 that because based on this 6546 02:24:28,401 --> 02:24:30,401 language. 6547 02:24:30,536 --> 02:24:31,637 If we were to move forward 6548 02:24:31,637 --> 02:24:31,838 based on the current value, the 6549 02:24:31,838 --> 02:24:32,772 . 6550 02:24:32,772 --> 02:24:34,772 Potential amount. 6551 02:24:35,108 --> 02:24:37,508 of deferred taxes would 6552 02:24:38,745 --> 02:24:40,745 approximately be $124,525 for 6553 02:24:41,915 --> 02:24:43,915 the city, $5,440. 6554 02:24:46,119 --> 02:24:46,452 For the special district, 6555 02:24:46,452 --> 02:24:47,887 $17,595. 6556 02:24:47,887 --> 02:24:49,887 For special district. 6557 02:24:52,392 --> 02:24:52,826 Three, 209,000 and $397.50. 6558 02:24:52,826 --> 02:24:53,427 >> for. 6559 02:24:53,427 --> 02:24:54,194 Mecklenburg county. 6560 02:24:54,194 --> 02:24:55,295 . 6561 02:24:55,295 --> 02:24:56,530 >> so that. 6562 02:24:56,530 --> 02:24:57,798 Looking at the. 6563 02:24:57,798 --> 02:24:58,899 Estimate is based on the. 6564 02:24:58,899 --> 02:25:00,467 County's current. 6565 02:25:00,467 --> 02:25:01,868 Appraised value. 6566 02:25:01,868 --> 02:25:03,403 Uh. 6567 02:25:03,403 --> 02:25:05,305 This property. 6568 02:25:05,305 --> 02:25:07,305 However. 6569 02:25:07,941 --> 02:25:10,341 >> given the APRIL 23rd. 6570 02:25:10,911 --> 02:25:12,911 2026 sale of the. 6571 02:25:14,214 --> 02:25:16,116 Property which was worth 6572 02:25:16,116 --> 02:25:16,450 36,500,000 the upcoming 2027 6573 02:25:16,450 --> 02:25:17,117 county. 6574 02:25:17,117 --> 02:25:18,786 >> wide property. 6575 02:25:18,786 --> 02:25:19,453 Reevaluation the potential 6576 02:25:19,453 --> 02:25:21,453 amount of. 6577 02:25:21,721 --> 02:25:21,889 >> the variable taxes is likely 6578 02:25:21,889 --> 02:25:22,389 to. 6579 02:25:22,389 --> 02:25:24,389 Decrease. 6580 02:25:24,858 --> 02:25:25,825 >> but this is a collective. 6581 02:25:25,825 --> 02:25:26,894 Conversation of how. 6582 02:25:26,894 --> 02:25:27,940 >> many properties and when 6583 02:25:27,940 --> 02:25:27,929 we're. 6584 02:25:27,929 --> 02:25:29,929 Having challenges. 6585 02:25:30,865 --> 02:25:32,865 Identify. 6586 02:25:35,669 --> 02:25:36,336 Seeing the growth of our 6587 02:25:36,336 --> 02:25:38,720 property tax. 6588 02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:39,940 Base and that is our main. 6589 02:25:39,940 --> 02:25:40,707 Source of income. 6590 02:25:40,707 --> 02:25:42,707 >> I wanted to. 6591 02:25:44,479 --> 02:25:45,179 Understand what potentially. 6592 02:25:45,179 --> 02:25:47,179 >> is the impact. 6593 02:25:47,348 --> 02:25:48,282 Yes ma'am. 6594 02:25:48,282 --> 02:25:49,385 And so each. 6595 02:25:49,385 --> 02:25:50,170 >> of these historic. 6596 02:25:50,170 --> 02:25:50,785 Landmark designations. 6597 02:25:50,785 --> 02:25:51,519 Is really. 6598 02:25:51,519 --> 02:25:52,887 >> a case by. 6599 02:25:52,887 --> 02:25:53,387 >> case basis. 6600 02:25:53,387 --> 02:25:54,789 >> you know. 6601 02:25:54,789 --> 02:25:56,230 the balance. 6602 02:25:56,230 --> 02:25:56,957 >> of preservation. 6603 02:25:56,957 --> 02:25:58,359 And revenue. 6604 02:25:58,359 --> 02:25:59,460 Generation and in this. 6605 02:25:59,460 --> 02:25:59,860 Instance at. 6606 02:25:59,860 --> 02:26:01,729 >> the. 6607 02:26:01,729 --> 02:26:01,930 Jefferson first union tower, um 6608 02:26:01,930 --> 02:26:03,264 . 6609 02:26:03,264 --> 02:26:04,499 It actually is going to. 6610 02:26:04,499 --> 02:26:06,534 Be beneficial because the. 6611 02:26:06,534 --> 02:26:07,469 Historic landmark designation. 6612 02:26:07,469 --> 02:26:08,870 Is part of a. 6613 02:26:08,870 --> 02:26:09,570 Redevelopment package. 6614 02:26:09,570 --> 02:26:10,505 It's just one piece. 6615 02:26:10,505 --> 02:26:11,720 Of the puzzle. 6616 02:26:11,720 --> 02:26:12,473 This is a. 6617 02:26:12,473 --> 02:26:13,875 >> tower that has been. 6618 02:26:13,875 --> 02:26:14,408 Largely vacant. 6619 02:26:14,408 --> 02:26:15,843 >> since. 6620 02:26:15,843 --> 02:26:16,277 2023 and up for sale. 6621 02:26:16,277 --> 02:26:16,544 So there. 6622 02:26:16,544 --> 02:26:17,780 Have not. 6623 02:26:17,780 --> 02:26:18,120 >> been. 6624 02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:19,715 Tenants in it. 6625 02:26:19,715 --> 02:26:20,480 And so through this 6626 02:26:20,480 --> 02:26:21,483 redevelopment. 6627 02:26:21,483 --> 02:26:21,950 The office tower. 6628 02:26:21,950 --> 02:26:23,351 Will be. 6629 02:26:23,351 --> 02:26:24,452 >> converted into. 6630 02:26:24,452 --> 02:26:25,853 Housing units. 6631 02:26:25,853 --> 02:26:26,488 A hotel and. 6632 02:26:26,488 --> 02:26:28,488 Office space. 6633 02:26:29,290 --> 02:26:29,958 With retail across the street 6634 02:26:29,958 --> 02:26:31,526 from it. 6635 02:26:31,526 --> 02:26:33,461 And so the historic. 6636 02:26:33,461 --> 02:26:34,495 Landmark designation. 6637 02:26:34,495 --> 02:26:35,563 And the um. 6638 02:26:35,563 --> 02:26:36,965 Property tax. 6639 02:26:36,965 --> 02:26:37,432 Abatement is only for. 6640 02:26:37,432 --> 02:26:38,000 One of. 6641 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:38,634 >> the. 6642 02:26:38,634 --> 02:26:39,501 Five acres of. 6643 02:26:39,501 --> 02:26:41,236 The redevelopment. 6644 02:26:41,236 --> 02:26:42,671 So this redevelopment will 6645 02:26:42,671 --> 02:26:43,400 generate additional property 6646 02:26:43,400 --> 02:26:43,572 tax. 6647 02:26:43,572 --> 02:26:44,973 >> revenue for us. 6648 02:26:44,973 --> 02:26:46,107 Despite the designation. 6649 02:26:46,107 --> 02:26:48,760 So the additional. 6650 02:26:48,760 --> 02:26:49,377 Information will be helpful for 6651 02:26:49,377 --> 02:26:51,790 me since what we. 6652 02:26:51,790 --> 02:26:52,814 Are doing is setting the. 6653 02:26:52,814 --> 02:26:55,170 Public hearing for SEPTEMBER 6654 02:26:55,170 --> 02:26:58,617 28th is between now and then. 6655 02:26:58,921 --> 02:27:00,921 It will. 6656 02:27:01,757 --> 02:27:03,659 >> be helpful to know what the 6657 02:27:03,659 --> 02:27:05,727 language is in the contract of 6658 02:27:05,727 --> 02:27:09,327 what is going to be preserved 6659 02:27:09,664 --> 02:27:09,998 as historic because council has 6660 02:27:09,998 --> 02:27:11,998 already. 6661 02:27:14,370 --> 02:27:15,370 Been a part of media concerns 6662 02:27:15,370 --> 02:27:17,370 and community. 6663 02:27:18,140 --> 02:27:18,974 Concerns on a building that was 6664 02:27:18,974 --> 02:27:20,974 designated as historic. 6665 02:27:22,770 --> 02:27:23,846 The building was so the 6666 02:27:23,846 --> 02:27:24,112 building was sold again 6667 02:27:24,112 --> 02:27:25,547 somewhere. 6668 02:27:25,547 --> 02:27:27,547 In those conversations. 6669 02:27:29,919 --> 02:27:32,319 Made there was demolition. 6670 02:27:33,356 --> 02:27:33,556 That challenge the history that 6671 02:27:33,556 --> 02:27:35,556 . 6672 02:27:37,126 --> 02:27:38,728 I believe council members 6673 02:27:38,728 --> 02:27:41,728 thought they were preserving in 6674 02:27:42,198 --> 02:27:45,200 their vote and we do not have 6675 02:27:45,200 --> 02:27:45,868 language that protects us and 6676 02:27:45,868 --> 02:27:46,936 say the. 6677 02:27:46,936 --> 02:27:48,936 Moment you destroy. 6678 02:27:49,305 --> 02:27:49,472 What was identified as historic 6679 02:27:49,472 --> 02:27:50,406 . 6680 02:27:50,406 --> 02:27:51,274 You're going. 6681 02:27:51,274 --> 02:27:52,750 >> back on the. 6682 02:27:52,750 --> 02:27:52,542 Tax rolls. 6683 02:27:52,542 --> 02:27:53,609 I don't. 6684 02:27:53,609 --> 02:27:55,211 >> think we've ever had a 6685 02:27:55,211 --> 02:27:56,646 conversation where we ever go 6686 02:27:56,646 --> 02:27:57,780 back and look and see if 6687 02:27:57,780 --> 02:27:58,114 something was designated as 6688 02:27:58,114 --> 02:27:59,849 historic. 6689 02:27:59,849 --> 02:28:01,849 A district. 6690 02:28:01,884 --> 02:28:02,385 Or an historic building where 6691 02:28:02,385 --> 02:28:03,452 they had. 6692 02:28:03,452 --> 02:28:05,188 Deferred taxes. 6693 02:28:05,188 --> 02:28:08,191 And then if somebody came along 6694 02:28:08,191 --> 02:28:08,525 and demolished what was 6695 02:28:08,525 --> 02:28:10,930 historic. 6696 02:28:10,930 --> 02:28:11,795 Will we go back and find out? 6697 02:28:11,795 --> 02:28:12,762 Okay, now you're back on the 6698 02:28:12,762 --> 02:28:14,831 tax roll and was that impact 6699 02:28:14,831 --> 02:28:16,432 going to be so because we had 6700 02:28:16,432 --> 02:28:18,000 an incident earlier. 6701 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:18,401 in the year where. 6702 02:28:18,401 --> 02:28:20,269 >> a. 6703 02:28:20,269 --> 02:28:22,639 Building that was thought to be 6704 02:28:22,639 --> 02:28:25,639 a historic building had some 6705 02:28:25,642 --> 02:28:27,244 major demolition happening to 6706 02:28:27,244 --> 02:28:28,511 it, it would be helpful to know 6707 02:28:28,511 --> 02:28:30,747 exactly what is the language 6708 02:28:30,747 --> 02:28:31,247 that protects and what is the 6709 02:28:31,247 --> 02:28:32,150 clawback if you. 6710 02:28:32,150 --> 02:28:32,415 Destroy what. 6711 02:28:32,415 --> 02:28:33,416 >> we are. 6712 02:28:33,416 --> 02:28:34,517 >> trying to preserve? 6713 02:28:34,517 --> 02:28:34,984 Yes ma'am. 6714 02:28:34,984 --> 02:28:36,984 Thank you. 6715 02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:38,588 >> any further discussion? 6716 02:28:38,588 --> 02:28:39,523 Council member as mayor? 6717 02:28:39,523 --> 02:28:40,290 Yeah. 6718 02:28:40,290 --> 02:28:40,824 >> the council. 6719 02:28:40,824 --> 02:28:41,925 >> member. 6720 02:28:41,925 --> 02:28:42,126 Mayfield raises a good point of 6721 02:28:42,126 --> 02:28:42,893 . 6722 02:28:42,893 --> 02:28:43,861 Uh. 6723 02:28:43,861 --> 02:28:45,861 >> following following through. 6724 02:28:46,496 --> 02:28:48,532 So I do see we have um. 6725 02:28:48,532 --> 02:28:49,666 Stuart here, MR. Gray here from 6726 02:28:49,666 --> 02:28:50,934 the historic landmark 6727 02:28:50,934 --> 02:28:51,401 commission department. 6728 02:28:51,401 --> 02:28:52,502 Um. 6729 02:28:52,502 --> 02:28:53,904 Could you. 6730 02:28:53,904 --> 02:28:54,404 >> speak to is there any. 6731 02:28:54,404 --> 02:28:55,472 >> sort. 6732 02:28:55,472 --> 02:28:55,772 Of enforcement. 6733 02:28:55,772 --> 02:28:57,410 Uh. 6734 02:28:57,410 --> 02:28:58,442 >> once the property. 6735 02:28:58,442 --> 02:28:59,543 Has been designated. 6736 02:28:59,543 --> 02:29:00,778 As a. 6737 02:29:00,778 --> 02:29:03,778 >> historic landmark and if it. 6738 02:29:04,682 --> 02:29:05,150 Gets demolished, what are the 6739 02:29:05,150 --> 02:29:07,150 implications? 6740 02:29:07,518 --> 02:29:07,951 Uh, yes. 6741 02:29:07,951 --> 02:29:09,419 Thank you. 6742 02:29:09,419 --> 02:29:09,753 >> what happens to the property 6743 02:29:09,753 --> 02:29:10,520 tax that. 6744 02:29:10,520 --> 02:29:12,520 Was been deferred? 6745 02:29:12,556 --> 02:29:13,230 My name is stuart gray. 6746 02:29:13,230 --> 02:29:14,125 I'm the. 6747 02:29:14,125 --> 02:29:14,458 >> director of the historic 6748 02:29:14,458 --> 02:29:15,920 landmarks. 6749 02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:16,270 Department with. 6750 02:29:16,270 --> 02:29:16,961 >> mecklenburg county. 6751 02:29:16,961 --> 02:29:17,828 and we. 6752 02:29:17,828 --> 02:29:18,462 Served the city of. 6753 02:29:18,462 --> 02:29:18,729 Charlotte for. 6754 02:29:18,729 --> 02:29:20,729 Your. 6755 02:29:20,865 --> 02:29:21,432 >> uh, preservation needs for 6756 02:29:21,432 --> 02:29:23,432 historic individually. 6757 02:29:23,434 --> 02:29:23,601 Designated historic properties 6758 02:29:23,601 --> 02:29:24,535 . 6759 02:29:24,535 --> 02:29:26,103 State law. 6760 02:29:26,103 --> 02:29:27,838 Dictates everything we do. 6761 02:29:27,838 --> 02:29:28,906 State law indicates. 6762 02:29:28,906 --> 02:29:30,700 >> and thank you, uh. 6763 02:29:30,700 --> 02:29:31,441 Council member. 6764 02:29:31,441 --> 02:29:32,430 Mayfield for the questions. 6765 02:29:32,430 --> 02:29:34,430 Uh, state. 6766 02:29:34,679 --> 02:29:34,912 Law, uh, does anticipate what 6767 02:29:34,912 --> 02:29:35,346 happens. 6768 02:29:35,346 --> 02:29:36,114 >> if. 6769 02:29:36,114 --> 02:29:37,480 Something is torn down. 6770 02:29:37,480 --> 02:29:37,448 And. 6771 02:29:37,448 --> 02:29:38,883 >> uh. 6772 02:29:38,883 --> 02:29:39,951 >> there is a clawback. 6773 02:29:39,951 --> 02:29:41,520 For three years. 6774 02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:42,920 Of the. 6775 02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:43,854 Deferred taxes. 6776 02:29:43,854 --> 02:29:44,488 If a property. 6777 02:29:44,488 --> 02:29:46,488 Is I'm. 6778 02:29:46,657 --> 02:29:47,240 Sorry I said torn down, 6779 02:29:47,240 --> 02:29:47,958 demolished. 6780 02:29:47,958 --> 02:29:49,958 Um. 6781 02:29:50,762 --> 02:29:50,962 >> that if we're talking about 6782 02:29:50,962 --> 02:29:51,329 . 6783 02:29:51,329 --> 02:29:52,897 >> the. 6784 02:29:52,897 --> 02:29:54,165 Excelsior club. 6785 02:29:54,165 --> 02:29:54,499 That's not the one I was 6786 02:29:54,499 --> 02:29:55,600 thinking okay. 6787 02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:56,534 Oh I'm sorry. 6788 02:29:56,534 --> 02:29:58,534 Um. 6789 02:29:59,670 --> 02:30:00,171 For example, that property was 6790 02:30:00,171 --> 02:30:00,938 torn down. 6791 02:30:00,938 --> 02:30:02,938 Um. 6792 02:30:02,974 --> 02:30:03,441 >> um, and it's an exception. 6793 02:30:03,441 --> 02:30:04,242 >> but if. 6794 02:30:04,242 --> 02:30:04,675 >> you weren't talking about. 6795 02:30:04,675 --> 02:30:05,176 >> that one. 6796 02:30:05,176 --> 02:30:05,943 Um, whatever. 6797 02:30:05,943 --> 02:30:06,878 Property that. 6798 02:30:06,878 --> 02:30:08,878 >> was torn down. 6799 02:30:10,150 --> 02:30:12,150 They are. 6800 02:30:12,183 --> 02:30:12,417 The landmark designation 6801 02:30:12,417 --> 02:30:13,170 removed. 6802 02:30:13,170 --> 02:30:13,618 The tax. 6803 02:30:13,618 --> 02:30:14,552 Office reaches. 6804 02:30:14,552 --> 02:30:15,487 Back to them. 6805 02:30:15,487 --> 02:30:16,540 And. 6806 02:30:16,540 --> 02:30:16,988 >> um. 6807 02:30:16,988 --> 02:30:17,622 >> sends them a. 6808 02:30:17,622 --> 02:30:19,622 Bill for the. 6809 02:30:19,791 --> 02:30:19,991 Tax deferral for the past three 6810 02:30:19,991 --> 02:30:21,859 years. 6811 02:30:21,859 --> 02:30:22,493 And again, that's not a. 6812 02:30:22,493 --> 02:30:23,428 Program or. 6813 02:30:23,428 --> 02:30:24,997 Not a um. 6814 02:30:24,997 --> 02:30:25,964 Policy that we. 6815 02:30:25,964 --> 02:30:26,265 Or charlotte. 6816 02:30:26,265 --> 02:30:27,332 Have put. 6817 02:30:27,332 --> 02:30:27,866 >> in that's just written. 6818 02:30:27,866 --> 02:30:28,500 >> into. 6819 02:30:28,500 --> 02:30:30,680 The state law. 6820 02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:30,369 Thank thank you, MR.. 6821 02:30:30,369 --> 02:30:32,369 Great. 6822 02:30:33,638 --> 02:30:34,500 Um, we appreciate the work that 6823 02:30:34,500 --> 02:30:34,939 you do. 6824 02:30:34,939 --> 02:30:35,874 Well well. 6825 02:30:35,874 --> 02:30:36,508 Well thank you. 6826 02:30:36,508 --> 02:30:37,750 That's all. 6827 02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:38,776 >> I have. 6828 02:30:38,776 --> 02:30:39,411 >> is any other questions 6829 02:30:39,411 --> 02:30:40,378 councilmember mayfield. 6830 02:30:40,378 --> 02:30:41,379 Thank you mayor. 6831 02:30:41,379 --> 02:30:42,948 >> so just follow up. 6832 02:30:42,948 --> 02:30:44,948 If it is. 6833 02:30:45,918 --> 02:30:46,452 Not a demolition if. 6834 02:30:46,452 --> 02:30:48,452 >> it. 6835 02:30:48,954 --> 02:30:51,354 Is a partial removal. 6836 02:30:52,724 --> 02:30:54,626 Um or if it is presented during 6837 02:30:54,626 --> 02:30:57,260 the redevelopment as we 6838 02:30:57,295 --> 02:30:57,495 reimagine space but this facade 6839 02:30:57,495 --> 02:30:59,495 . 6840 02:31:01,700 --> 02:31:04,236 Anything within I don't care if 6841 02:31:04,236 --> 02:31:04,904 it's a flat if it's if that is 6842 02:31:04,904 --> 02:31:06,904 what helped it. 6843 02:31:07,873 --> 02:31:08,974 We see the historic designation 6844 02:31:08,974 --> 02:31:11,176 and that is removed. 6845 02:31:11,176 --> 02:31:12,611 Now that is a different 6846 02:31:12,611 --> 02:31:14,980 conversation to me than a 6847 02:31:14,980 --> 02:31:15,480 demolition because that is what 6848 02:31:15,480 --> 02:31:16,281 we're trying. 6849 02:31:16,281 --> 02:31:18,217 >> to preserve. 6850 02:31:18,217 --> 02:31:21,217 So if that preservation doesn't 6851 02:31:21,854 --> 02:31:23,756 happen I and if it is there 6852 02:31:23,756 --> 02:31:25,825 please just send me what the 6853 02:31:25,825 --> 02:31:27,727 statue is at some point from 6854 02:31:27,727 --> 02:31:29,295 where that is protected I 6855 02:31:29,295 --> 02:31:32,164 believe we as you mentioned we 6856 02:31:32,164 --> 02:31:35,164 have language for a demolition 6857 02:31:35,168 --> 02:31:35,501 yet I have not seen the 6858 02:31:35,501 --> 02:31:37,501 language. 6859 02:31:38,771 --> 02:31:39,572 That protects um something. 6860 02:31:39,572 --> 02:31:40,173 Used to have. 6861 02:31:40,173 --> 02:31:42,173 A name. 6862 02:31:43,176 --> 02:31:44,610 That was identified if a piece 6863 02:31:44,610 --> 02:31:45,545 of that that. 6864 02:31:45,545 --> 02:31:46,946 If the main. 6865 02:31:46,946 --> 02:31:48,514 Piece that helped to warrant 6866 02:31:48,514 --> 02:31:49,982 the historic designation is the 6867 02:31:49,982 --> 02:31:52,982 piece that is removed knowing. 6868 02:31:53,253 --> 02:31:55,653 The reimagining or redesigning 6869 02:31:58,591 --> 02:31:59,726 and that's identified what is 6870 02:31:59,726 --> 02:32:00,994 the clawbacks that's the 6871 02:32:00,994 --> 02:32:03,994 language that I want to. 6872 02:32:04,130 --> 02:32:06,332 Clarify and the excelsior club 6873 02:32:06,332 --> 02:32:08,568 is that the building that I 6874 02:32:08,568 --> 02:32:11,104 have in my mind in my mind but 6875 02:32:11,104 --> 02:32:13,307 we have received emails on a 6876 02:32:13,307 --> 02:32:14,441 building near uptown where 6877 02:32:14,441 --> 02:32:17,441 there was a lot of. 6878 02:32:17,711 --> 02:32:19,479 Thought of what the designation 6879 02:32:19,479 --> 02:32:21,470 was on it and. 6880 02:32:21,470 --> 02:32:22,582 The will. 6881 02:32:22,582 --> 02:32:24,582 The resale. 6882 02:32:24,951 --> 02:32:26,951 From multiple. 6883 02:32:27,288 --> 02:32:27,621 Entities somewhere along the 6884 02:32:27,621 --> 02:32:29,621 line. 6885 02:32:29,957 --> 02:32:32,826 What is being built is not 6886 02:32:32,826 --> 02:32:33,627 under the understanding of what 6887 02:32:33,627 --> 02:32:35,280 is designation was. 6888 02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:36,620 So I just want. 6889 02:32:36,620 --> 02:32:37,798 To make sure we have the 6890 02:32:37,798 --> 02:32:38,832 language to protect the few 6891 02:32:38,832 --> 02:32:40,100 resources that we have left in. 6892 02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:41,340 Our city that. 6893 02:32:41,340 --> 02:32:41,701 Help tell the. 6894 02:32:41,701 --> 02:32:42,602 Story of charlotte. 6895 02:32:42,602 --> 02:32:43,537 I'll be. 6896 02:32:43,537 --> 02:32:44,705 Happy to get you. 6897 02:32:44,705 --> 02:32:45,939 >> that information and have a. 6898 02:32:45,939 --> 02:32:46,273 Discussion if issues. 6899 02:32:46,273 --> 02:32:47,508 Thank you. 6900 02:32:47,508 --> 02:32:49,508 >> any further discussion? 6901 02:32:50,945 --> 02:32:51,312 there were a motion to uh uh 6902 02:32:51,312 --> 02:32:52,790 approval. 6903 02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:52,413 To adopt. 6904 02:32:52,413 --> 02:32:53,180 >> the. 6905 02:32:53,180 --> 02:32:53,514 Resolution setting the public 6906 02:32:53,514 --> 02:32:54,615 hearing for. 6907 02:32:54,615 --> 02:32:56,160 SEPTEMBER 28th. 6908 02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:57,251 >> any further discussion? 6909 02:32:57,251 --> 02:32:58,510 All in favor raise your hand. 6910 02:32:58,510 --> 02:32:59,619 Any opposed? 6911 02:32:59,619 --> 02:33:01,619 Motion carries. 6912 02:33:01,956 --> 02:33:02,423 And finally. 6913 02:33:02,423 --> 02:33:03,991 You're mayor. 6914 02:33:03,991 --> 02:33:05,559 Yes 45. 6915 02:33:05,559 --> 02:33:07,128 Before we proceed. 6916 02:33:07,128 --> 02:33:09,128 Item 45. 6917 02:33:10,865 --> 02:33:11,198 Um, I believe we read the 6918 02:33:11,198 --> 02:33:12,600 language. 6919 02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:13,267 4646 and. 6920 02:33:13,267 --> 02:33:13,801 >> so if we. 6921 02:33:13,801 --> 02:33:14,134 >> could just. 6922 02:33:14,134 --> 02:33:14,868 Have a. 6923 02:33:14,868 --> 02:33:15,669 >> motion for. 6924 02:33:15,669 --> 02:33:17,700 >> item 45. 6925 02:33:17,700 --> 02:33:18,472 That encompasses. 6926 02:33:18,472 --> 02:33:20,508 Or includes the language under. 6927 02:33:20,508 --> 02:33:23,508 Section a and b okay. 6928 02:33:23,778 --> 02:33:26,948 Is there a motion um to approve 6929 02:33:26,948 --> 02:33:27,115 item 45 a and b as set forth in 6930 02:33:27,115 --> 02:33:27,748 to. 6931 02:33:27,748 --> 02:33:30,148 Approve a and b. 6932 02:33:31,185 --> 02:33:33,721 Any further discussion on paper 6933 02:33:33,721 --> 02:33:34,550 raise your hand any opposed 6934 02:33:34,550 --> 02:33:36,550 okay. 6935 02:33:36,258 --> 02:33:36,591 Are there any other items MADAM 6936 02:33:36,591 --> 02:33:37,392 City attorney. 6937 02:33:37,392 --> 02:33:39,270 That we're missing? 6938 02:33:39,270 --> 02:33:40,328 >> MR. Mayor you can do so. 6939 02:33:40,328 --> 02:33:41,930 >> we have now approved all of 6940 02:33:41,930 --> 02:33:42,764 the items on the consent agenda 6941 02:33:42,764 --> 02:33:43,970 including those that were 6942 02:33:43,970 --> 02:33:44,799 pulled out. 6943 02:33:44,799 --> 02:33:45,600 I'm sorry number 4848. 6944 02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:47,168 Pulled out. 6945 02:33:47,168 --> 02:33:48,402 There's 48 still out there. 6946 02:33:48,402 --> 02:33:48,870 Um. 6947 02:33:48,870 --> 02:33:49,804 All right. 6948 02:33:49,804 --> 02:33:51,720 And that was me. 6949 02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:53,720 Council member mayfield. 6950 02:33:55,444 --> 02:33:57,444 Thank you mayor. 6951 02:33:58,800 --> 02:33:59,347 same question as the last. 6952 02:33:59,347 --> 02:33:59,581 This is to set a public 6953 02:33:59,581 --> 02:34:00,248 hearing. 6954 02:34:00,248 --> 02:34:02,248 >> on the. 6955 02:34:05,253 --> 02:34:06,220 Excuse me, little mcnair chiles 6956 02:34:06,220 --> 02:34:07,589 historic landmark. 6957 02:34:07,589 --> 02:34:09,257 What we've. 6958 02:34:09,257 --> 02:34:10,858 >> identified is based on the 6959 02:34:10,858 --> 02:34:11,527 current value, the potential 6960 02:34:11,527 --> 02:34:13,462 amount of deferral. 6961 02:34:13,462 --> 02:34:13,595 The taxes will be approximately 6962 02:34:13,595 --> 02:34:15,595 . 6963 02:34:18,567 --> 02:34:18,967 $5,104 for the city, 9175 for. 6964 02:34:18,967 --> 02:34:20,967 >> the. 6965 02:34:21,937 --> 02:34:22,571 County plus an additional two 6966 02:34:22,571 --> 02:34:23,672 3837 for a. 6967 02:34:23,672 --> 02:34:25,540 Special district. 6968 02:34:25,540 --> 02:34:27,175 One taxes again. 6969 02:34:27,175 --> 02:34:29,175 Bringing that information. 6970 02:34:30,379 --> 02:34:32,147 Back as well as a snapshot of 6971 02:34:32,147 --> 02:34:35,147 what is the totality of. 6972 02:34:35,884 --> 02:34:37,190 Deferred taxes do we have in 6973 02:34:37,190 --> 02:34:38,287 the city right now? 6974 02:34:38,287 --> 02:34:40,210 Because I think it would be 6975 02:34:40,210 --> 02:34:42,824 helpful for us to actually one. 6976 02:34:42,824 --> 02:34:45,227 Stop running a tab to keep 6977 02:34:45,227 --> 02:34:45,560 track, uh, where we're not 6978 02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:47,560 receiving. 6979 02:34:48,640 --> 02:34:49,932 Taxes and if that's creating a. 6980 02:34:49,932 --> 02:34:51,932 Shortfall for us. 6981 02:34:52,101 --> 02:34:54,501 Yet, I will move. 6982 02:34:54,937 --> 02:34:55,738 To approve the to adopt the 6983 02:34:55,738 --> 02:34:57,640 resolution setting the public 6984 02:34:57,640 --> 02:34:58,440 hearing for SEPTEMBER 28th. 6985 02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:00,142 Second. 6986 02:35:00,142 --> 02:35:01,760 >> any further discussion? 6987 02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:01,543 All in favor? 6988 02:35:01,543 --> 02:35:03,111 Aye. 6989 02:35:03,111 --> 02:35:04,514 Any opposed? 6990 02:35:04,514 --> 02:35:05,415 Motion carries. 6991 02:35:05,415 --> 02:35:06,150 I think we are. 6992 02:35:06,150 --> 02:35:07,250 Now finished. 6993 02:35:07,250 --> 02:35:07,750 >> with the items that were on 6994 02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:08,500 the consent agenda. 6995 02:35:08,500 --> 02:35:08,684 Correct. 6996 02:35:08,684 --> 02:35:09,850 All right. 6997 02:35:09,850 --> 02:35:10,953 >> okay. 6998 02:35:10,953 --> 02:35:11,254 That takes us to. 6999 02:35:11,254 --> 02:35:13,155 The. 7000 02:35:13,155 --> 02:35:15,155 >> uh, city manager's. 7001 02:35:15,324 --> 02:35:16,926 report and in the city 7002 02:35:16,926 --> 02:35:19,295 manager's report in the policy 7003 02:35:19,295 --> 02:35:20,896 section we had postponed 7004 02:35:20,896 --> 02:35:21,565 earlier discussion of model 7005 02:35:21,565 --> 02:35:22,165 cities and. 7006 02:35:22,165 --> 02:35:23,733 MR. Mayor. 7007 02:35:23,733 --> 02:35:25,100 If few would. 7008 02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:26,703 Be uh. 7009 02:35:26,703 --> 02:35:28,605 Thank you mayor members of 7010 02:35:28,605 --> 02:35:29,720 council uh, as the mayor just. 7011 02:35:29,720 --> 02:35:30,390 Mentioned. 7012 02:35:30,390 --> 02:35:32,390 >> we postpone. 7013 02:35:32,842 --> 02:35:34,577 This and uh, at this time I'd 7014 02:35:34,577 --> 02:35:35,110 like to defer to. 7015 02:35:35,110 --> 02:35:35,444 >> the. 7016 02:35:35,444 --> 02:35:36,846 Chair of the. 7017 02:35:36,846 --> 02:35:37,113 Public safety committee to 7018 02:35:37,113 --> 02:35:37,980 introduce. 7019 02:35:37,980 --> 02:35:40,150 The model cities grant. 7020 02:35:40,150 --> 02:35:41,840 Thank you, city manager. 7021 02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:43,840 Uh, this. 7022 02:35:43,286 --> 02:35:43,620 Particular topic was referred 7023 02:35:43,620 --> 02:35:43,820 to. 7024 02:35:43,820 --> 02:35:45,188 Well. 7025 02:35:45,188 --> 02:35:46,756 >> this this. 7026 02:35:46,756 --> 02:35:47,724 Particular topic it was 7027 02:35:47,724 --> 02:35:49,724 actually something that. 7028 02:35:50,860 --> 02:35:52,428 That arose um, at the federal 7029 02:35:52,428 --> 02:35:53,960 government level over the last 7030 02:35:53,960 --> 02:35:55,960 couple of months. 7031 02:35:56,867 --> 02:35:58,268 It's an opportunity for cities 7032 02:35:58,268 --> 02:36:01,268 all throughout the country to 7033 02:36:01,271 --> 02:36:03,106 potentially apply for a grant 7034 02:36:03,106 --> 02:36:05,106 that is multifaceted. 7035 02:36:05,375 --> 02:36:08,211 But um, the umbrella of the 7036 02:36:08,211 --> 02:36:10,747 focus is on safety but it's 7037 02:36:10,747 --> 02:36:11,247 through the the entire 7038 02:36:11,247 --> 02:36:13,116 ecosystem of safety. 7039 02:36:13,116 --> 02:36:15,116 So not only. 7040 02:36:15,619 --> 02:36:18,619 Um you are thank you. 7041 02:36:19,390 --> 02:36:21,925 For not only policing but also 7042 02:36:21,925 --> 02:36:23,827 behavioral health and youth 7043 02:36:23,827 --> 02:36:27,297 opportunities um, as well as as 7044 02:36:27,297 --> 02:36:28,398 other opportunities around um 7045 02:36:28,398 --> 02:36:30,398 reintroduction back into 7046 02:36:30,800 --> 02:36:32,403 society after um being 7047 02:36:32,403 --> 02:36:33,337 interface with the judicial 7048 02:36:33,337 --> 02:36:35,337 system. 7049 02:36:35,539 --> 02:36:38,542 And so the chief and her team 7050 02:36:38,542 --> 02:36:40,277 have put together uh uh, myriad 7051 02:36:40,277 --> 02:36:41,578 of subject matter experts to 7052 02:36:41,578 --> 02:36:43,978 work on this effort. 7053 02:36:44,214 --> 02:36:46,750 I was one that worked on this 7054 02:36:46,750 --> 02:36:50,350 effort um, over the summer as 7055 02:36:50,855 --> 02:36:53,391 well as um as a as well as 7056 02:36:53,391 --> 02:36:55,791 assistant city manager or 7057 02:36:55,893 --> 02:36:56,930 deputy city manager sean heath 7058 02:36:56,930 --> 02:36:58,930 . 7059 02:36:58,295 --> 02:37:00,300 And we provided an update in 7060 02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:01,932 the public safety committee for 7061 02:37:01,932 --> 02:37:02,600 full transparency around what 7062 02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:04,600 is before us. 7063 02:37:04,802 --> 02:37:07,172 I'm going to let the chief in 7064 02:37:07,172 --> 02:37:07,972 and her excellent staff walk 7065 02:37:07,972 --> 02:37:09,841 you through it. 7066 02:37:09,841 --> 02:37:11,742 But I'll just preface the 7067 02:37:11,742 --> 02:37:14,742 conversation by saying this is 7068 02:37:14,912 --> 02:37:15,113 an opportunity to apply for a 7069 02:37:15,113 --> 02:37:17,113 grant. 7070 02:37:17,114 --> 02:37:18,849 Um we are. 7071 02:37:18,849 --> 02:37:21,686 Nowhere near the finish line 7072 02:37:21,686 --> 02:37:24,856 here where we're at step maybe 7073 02:37:24,856 --> 02:37:28,793 1.5 or 2 as it relates to a ten 7074 02:37:28,793 --> 02:37:30,395 point uh, step process of even 7075 02:37:30,395 --> 02:37:31,963 being chosen as one of the 7076 02:37:31,963 --> 02:37:32,163 final cities and accepting a 7077 02:37:32,163 --> 02:37:34,163 grant. 7078 02:37:34,832 --> 02:37:37,335 So lots and lots of steps 7079 02:37:37,335 --> 02:37:39,103 before we get to any decision 7080 02:37:39,103 --> 02:37:39,837 criteria with that I'm going to 7081 02:37:39,837 --> 02:37:40,371 hand it over to the chief. 7082 02:37:40,371 --> 02:37:42,371 Thank you chief. 7083 02:37:42,875 --> 02:37:43,542 Thank you council member 7084 02:37:43,542 --> 02:37:44,176 anderson and. 7085 02:37:44,176 --> 02:37:45,577 Hello again. 7086 02:37:45,577 --> 02:37:46,645 To mayor and council. 7087 02:37:46,645 --> 02:37:47,212 My name is estella patterson. 7088 02:37:47,212 --> 02:37:48,380 Chief of. 7089 02:37:48,380 --> 02:37:48,780 >> police for the charlotte 7090 02:37:48,780 --> 02:37:50,448 police department. 7091 02:37:50,448 --> 02:37:51,583 And with me today is my 7092 02:37:51,583 --> 02:37:52,283 business services bureau. 7093 02:37:52,283 --> 02:37:52,584 >> team lead. 7094 02:37:52,584 --> 02:37:53,284 Kelly. 7095 02:37:53,284 --> 02:37:54,850 >> hi foster. 7096 02:37:54,850 --> 02:37:55,553 And both. 7097 02:37:55,553 --> 02:37:57,288 >> of us are here today to seek 7098 02:37:57,288 --> 02:37:59,358 your support to take the 7099 02:37:59,358 --> 02:38:01,126 initial step for applying for a 7100 02:38:01,126 --> 02:38:01,660 department of justice model. 7101 02:38:01,660 --> 02:38:03,462 cities initiatives. 7102 02:38:03,462 --> 02:38:04,329 Grant that we. 7103 02:38:04,329 --> 02:38:05,631 >> believe will greatly. 7104 02:38:05,631 --> 02:38:07,432 Support crime reduction. 7105 02:38:07,432 --> 02:38:07,632 Victim recovery services, youth 7106 02:38:07,632 --> 02:38:08,133 . 7107 02:38:08,133 --> 02:38:09,201 Crime reduction. 7108 02:38:09,201 --> 02:38:11,201 Services and. 7109 02:38:11,536 --> 02:38:12,203 Behavioral health care in 7110 02:38:12,203 --> 02:38:14,720 charlotte mecklenburg. 7111 02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:15,173 As you are all aware. 7112 02:38:15,173 --> 02:38:16,108 Reduce violent. 7113 02:38:16,108 --> 02:38:17,760 Crime is one of my. 7114 02:38:17,760 --> 02:38:17,543 Key priorities. 7115 02:38:17,543 --> 02:38:17,977 >> and. 7116 02:38:17,977 --> 02:38:19,912 Top priorities. 7117 02:38:19,912 --> 02:38:21,780 But in order to do so and to 7118 02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:22,114 sustain reductions we have to 7119 02:38:22,114 --> 02:38:22,881 have a. 7120 02:38:22,881 --> 02:38:23,548 Strategy of course that 7121 02:38:23,548 --> 02:38:25,830 incorporates many. 7122 02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:25,718 Pieces and many partners. 7123 02:38:25,718 --> 02:38:26,652 So the. 7124 02:38:26,652 --> 02:38:27,119 Model cities. 7125 02:38:27,119 --> 02:38:27,619 Initiative grant. 7126 02:38:27,619 --> 02:38:29,619 Dollars that. 7127 02:38:29,621 --> 02:38:30,880 >> we are seeking emphasizes. 7128 02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:30,655 A whole. 7129 02:38:30,655 --> 02:38:32,524 >> of. 7130 02:38:32,524 --> 02:38:33,191 City, whole of county or whole 7131 02:38:33,191 --> 02:38:33,659 of system approach. 7132 02:38:33,659 --> 02:38:35,194 It's not. 7133 02:38:35,194 --> 02:38:36,162 >> just a crime fighting. 7134 02:38:36,162 --> 02:38:36,629 Tool and. 7135 02:38:36,629 --> 02:38:36,996 >> it is. 7136 02:38:36,996 --> 02:38:38,331 Something that. 7137 02:38:38,331 --> 02:38:39,131 I believe will make our city 7138 02:38:39,131 --> 02:38:41,166 and our county safer. 7139 02:38:41,166 --> 02:38:41,667 What we are proposing to do 7140 02:38:41,667 --> 02:38:43,680 with these grant. 7141 02:38:43,680 --> 02:38:45,400 Dollars if awarded and there's 7142 02:38:45,400 --> 02:38:46,105 a big if there as council 7143 02:38:46,105 --> 02:38:46,538 member anderson stated where. 7144 02:38:46,538 --> 02:38:47,172 >> the. 7145 02:38:47,172 --> 02:38:47,606 Very very beginning. 7146 02:38:47,606 --> 02:38:48,607 Stages of. 7147 02:38:48,607 --> 02:38:49,174 This but if. 7148 02:38:49,174 --> 02:38:50,275 >> we are. 7149 02:38:50,275 --> 02:38:52,145 Awarded these grant dollars. 7150 02:38:52,145 --> 02:38:52,745 And services and agencies. 7151 02:38:52,745 --> 02:38:54,745 together to. 7152 02:38:56,349 --> 02:38:56,916 To create and sustain a 7153 02:38:56,916 --> 02:38:58,840 charlotte-mecklenburg that. 7154 02:38:58,840 --> 02:38:58,684 Thrives. 7155 02:38:58,684 --> 02:38:59,852 >> the model cities. 7156 02:38:59,852 --> 02:39:01,287 Initiative grant follows a 7157 02:39:01,287 --> 02:39:03,550 framework that brings a lot of 7158 02:39:03,550 --> 02:39:04,190 partners together from city to 7159 02:39:04,190 --> 02:39:05,124 county, federal. 7160 02:39:05,124 --> 02:39:06,825 And community. 7161 02:39:06,825 --> 02:39:08,394 Partners partners such as 7162 02:39:08,394 --> 02:39:09,362 atrium, charlotte-mecklenburg 7163 02:39:09,362 --> 02:39:10,630 schools, the safe alliance, the 7164 02:39:10,630 --> 02:39:11,264 umbrella center bring. 7165 02:39:11,264 --> 02:39:12,198 Us all under. 7166 02:39:12,198 --> 02:39:13,990 To work collaboratively. 7167 02:39:13,990 --> 02:39:13,700 For what's best. 7168 02:39:13,700 --> 02:39:14,267 For our. 7169 02:39:14,267 --> 02:39:15,501 >> city and. 7170 02:39:15,501 --> 02:39:15,702 >> county and for us this 7171 02:39:15,702 --> 02:39:16,636 means. 7172 02:39:16,636 --> 02:39:17,103 Fewer victims. 7173 02:39:17,103 --> 02:39:18,805 >> of. 7174 02:39:18,805 --> 02:39:19,939 Crime and if someone is a 7175 02:39:19,939 --> 02:39:21,707 victim of crime they get 7176 02:39:21,707 --> 02:39:22,275 adequate recovery services. 7177 02:39:22,275 --> 02:39:23,276 Also to its. 7178 02:39:23,276 --> 02:39:24,210 >> support for our district. 7179 02:39:24,210 --> 02:39:24,677 Attorney's office. 7180 02:39:24,677 --> 02:39:25,611 For more. 7181 02:39:25,611 --> 02:39:27,481 >> judges, for more. 7182 02:39:27,481 --> 02:39:27,747 Advocates and greater 7183 02:39:27,747 --> 02:39:28,215 resources. 7184 02:39:28,215 --> 02:39:29,149 >> for the. 7185 02:39:29,149 --> 02:39:30,250 Sheriff's office and. 7186 02:39:30,250 --> 02:39:31,170 Adult corrections. 7187 02:39:31,170 --> 02:39:32,118 It's also. 7188 02:39:32,118 --> 02:39:32,585 >> an opportunity to help. 7189 02:39:32,585 --> 02:39:33,353 Come up. 7190 02:39:33,353 --> 02:39:34,154 >> with something to. 7191 02:39:34,154 --> 02:39:36,154 Reduce recidivism. 7192 02:39:36,489 --> 02:39:37,790 Through more reentry programs 7193 02:39:37,790 --> 02:39:39,250 and greater behavioral health. 7194 02:39:39,250 --> 02:39:40,593 Resources for both. 7195 02:39:40,593 --> 02:39:41,194 Youth and adults. 7196 02:39:41,194 --> 02:39:42,762 So in. 7197 02:39:42,762 --> 02:39:43,162 >> the end with this grant, if 7198 02:39:43,162 --> 02:39:43,497 we are able to. 7199 02:39:43,497 --> 02:39:43,831 >> get. 7200 02:39:43,831 --> 02:39:44,231 Some dollars. 7201 02:39:44,231 --> 02:39:45,165 it will. 7202 02:39:45,165 --> 02:39:47,165 >>, we believe make. 7203 02:39:48,135 --> 02:39:48,602 Our community stronger. 7204 02:39:48,602 --> 02:39:50,300 We did. 7205 02:39:50,300 --> 02:39:50,637 >> present this to the public 7206 02:39:50,637 --> 02:39:52,172 safety committee last. 7207 02:39:52,172 --> 02:39:53,940 Week and now. 7208 02:39:53,940 --> 02:39:55,508 >> we are seeking your approval 7209 02:39:55,508 --> 02:39:56,376 or your support to apply. 7210 02:39:56,376 --> 02:39:56,843 >> for the grant. 7211 02:39:56,843 --> 02:39:57,277 At this time. 7212 02:39:57,277 --> 02:39:57,577 >> I'm going. 7213 02:39:57,577 --> 02:39:58,144 To turn it. 7214 02:39:58,144 --> 02:39:58,578 >> over to. 7215 02:39:58,578 --> 02:39:59,379 >> MISS Kelly. 7216 02:39:59,379 --> 02:40:00,130 Hi foster who's just gonna give 7217 02:40:00,130 --> 02:40:01,282 you a little bit more 7218 02:40:01,282 --> 02:40:03,500 information about the grant, 7219 02:40:03,500 --> 02:40:04,318 our proposed strategy and then 7220 02:40:04,318 --> 02:40:05,619 also to the next steps and then 7221 02:40:05,619 --> 02:40:06,530 we'll be happy to answer any. 7222 02:40:06,530 --> 02:40:06,787 Questions you. 7223 02:40:06,787 --> 02:40:08,787 >> MAY have. 7224 02:40:14,427 --> 02:40:15,862 Questions from council I know 7225 02:40:15,862 --> 02:40:16,797 council member mayfield. 7226 02:40:16,797 --> 02:40:18,532 Council member. 7227 02:40:18,532 --> 02:40:19,667 I think she's getting ready to 7228 02:40:19,667 --> 02:40:21,202 do an actual presentation. 7229 02:40:21,202 --> 02:40:22,603 Yes just a few slides. 7230 02:40:22,603 --> 02:40:23,270 Yeah we. 7231 02:40:23,270 --> 02:40:23,437 >> haven't gotten to. 7232 02:40:23,437 --> 02:40:23,838 The. 7233 02:40:23,838 --> 02:40:25,838 Presentation yet. 7234 02:40:26,707 --> 02:40:27,641 >> so good evening. 7235 02:40:27,641 --> 02:40:28,342 My name is kelly. 7236 02:40:28,342 --> 02:40:29,743 >> hi foster. 7237 02:40:29,743 --> 02:40:30,210 And I'm going to. 7238 02:40:30,210 --> 02:40:32,210 Take you. 7239 02:40:32,246 --> 02:40:34,114 >> through the mci. 7240 02:40:34,114 --> 02:40:35,480 Model cities initiative. 7241 02:40:35,480 --> 02:40:36,550 Um we're. 7242 02:40:36,550 --> 02:40:38,720 >> going to review the. 7243 02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:40,720 Solicitation the proposal. 7244 02:40:40,755 --> 02:40:41,222 Strategy and the. 7245 02:40:41,222 --> 02:40:42,323 Framework by. 7246 02:40:42,323 --> 02:40:42,590 >> which we will. 7247 02:40:42,590 --> 02:40:44,590 Apply. 7248 02:40:44,692 --> 02:40:45,927 >> so for. 7249 02:40:45,927 --> 02:40:46,627 >> the model city initiative, 7250 02:40:46,627 --> 02:40:47,661 the department. 7251 02:40:47,661 --> 02:40:49,697 >> of justice, it has. 7252 02:40:49,697 --> 02:40:51,697 Approximately 300 million. 7253 02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:53,635 To be available nationwide, but 7254 02:40:53,635 --> 02:40:54,169 we'll only choose 2. 7255 02:40:54,169 --> 02:40:54,969 >> to 4. 7256 02:40:54,969 --> 02:40:55,136 Cities. 7257 02:40:55,136 --> 02:40:55,470 . 7258 02:40:55,470 --> 02:40:57,470 Um. 7259 02:40:57,639 --> 02:40:58,740 To give the funding to. 7260 02:40:58,740 --> 02:40:59,207 This award. 7261 02:40:59,207 --> 02:40:59,774 Will be. 7262 02:40:59,774 --> 02:41:00,608 Structured as. 7263 02:41:00,608 --> 02:41:01,643 >> a cooperative. 7264 02:41:01,643 --> 02:41:02,110 Agreement rather. 7265 02:41:02,110 --> 02:41:03,211 Than a. 7266 02:41:03,211 --> 02:41:04,645 >> traditional grant. 7267 02:41:04,645 --> 02:41:05,847 And that means the department. 7268 02:41:05,847 --> 02:41:06,180 >> of justice through the cops. 7269 02:41:06,180 --> 02:41:07,882 Office. 7270 02:41:07,882 --> 02:41:08,215 >> the office of justice 7271 02:41:08,215 --> 02:41:09,183 program and. 7272 02:41:09,183 --> 02:41:09,650 >> the office of violence 7273 02:41:09,650 --> 02:41:11,219 against women. 7274 02:41:11,219 --> 02:41:12,654 Will be a. 7275 02:41:12,654 --> 02:41:13,722 Part of the grant oversight. 7276 02:41:13,722 --> 02:41:14,656 This is a three. 7277 02:41:14,656 --> 02:41:16,656 Year grant. 7278 02:41:16,691 --> 02:41:17,158 And we are in. 7279 02:41:17,158 --> 02:41:17,625 Phase one. 7280 02:41:17,625 --> 02:41:19,194 Of the. 7281 02:41:19,194 --> 02:41:20,729 >> application which is due. 7282 02:41:20,729 --> 02:41:22,729 SEPTEMBER 1st. 7283 02:41:23,310 --> 02:41:23,565 >> um cities. 7284 02:41:23,565 --> 02:41:24,198 >> are. 7285 02:41:24,198 --> 02:41:25,133 Invited will. 7286 02:41:25,133 --> 02:41:25,600 Be invited. 7287 02:41:25,600 --> 02:41:26,701 >> to. 7288 02:41:26,701 --> 02:41:27,802 Advance to phase two. 7289 02:41:27,802 --> 02:41:28,404 Um and. 7290 02:41:28,404 --> 02:41:30,404 >> that will. 7291 02:41:31,239 --> 02:41:32,174 Be a presentation process and. 7292 02:41:32,174 --> 02:41:32,774 We don't know at this. 7293 02:41:32,774 --> 02:41:33,742 Time whether. 7294 02:41:33,742 --> 02:41:34,109 That they. 7295 02:41:34,109 --> 02:41:34,609 >> will. 7296 02:41:34,609 --> 02:41:36,144 Come here or. 7297 02:41:36,144 --> 02:41:36,478 >> the cities that are chosen. 7298 02:41:36,478 --> 02:41:37,120 >> will. 7299 02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:37,245 Have to go there. 7300 02:41:37,245 --> 02:41:38,180 To do. 7301 02:41:38,180 --> 02:41:39,581 >> their presentations. 7302 02:41:39,581 --> 02:41:40,115 But we. 7303 02:41:40,115 --> 02:41:40,682 >> should. 7304 02:41:40,682 --> 02:41:41,149 Know whether. 7305 02:41:41,149 --> 02:41:42,830 >> we. 7306 02:41:42,830 --> 02:41:42,417 Would be in that. 7307 02:41:42,417 --> 02:41:44,417 Group of. 7308 02:41:44,419 --> 02:41:44,786 >> cities by the end of the 7309 02:41:44,786 --> 02:41:45,720 calendar year. 7310 02:41:45,720 --> 02:41:47,720 This year. 7311 02:41:51,193 --> 02:41:53,193 To make a. 7312 02:41:53,228 --> 02:41:54,629 Successful mci proposal. 7313 02:41:54,629 --> 02:41:55,397 Um. 7314 02:41:55,397 --> 02:41:55,731 >> we'll begin. 7315 02:41:55,731 --> 02:41:56,331 With a. 7316 02:41:56,331 --> 02:41:57,165 >> direct and. 7317 02:41:57,165 --> 02:41:58,200 Credible connection. 7318 02:41:58,200 --> 02:41:59,167 To crime reduction. 7319 02:41:59,167 --> 02:42:00,235 That's the basis. 7320 02:42:00,235 --> 02:42:01,169 Of the. 7321 02:42:01,169 --> 02:42:02,270 Initiative itself. 7322 02:42:02,270 --> 02:42:03,839 >> the department of justice. 7323 02:42:03,839 --> 02:42:04,640 Like the chief said, is looking 7324 02:42:04,640 --> 02:42:05,107 for a whole. 7325 02:42:05,107 --> 02:42:05,775 >> of. 7326 02:42:05,775 --> 02:42:06,542 The community approach. 7327 02:42:06,542 --> 02:42:08,411 Um. 7328 02:42:08,411 --> 02:42:08,777 >> public safety is a shared 7329 02:42:08,777 --> 02:42:09,678 responsibility. 7330 02:42:09,678 --> 02:42:11,246 Where we. 7331 02:42:11,246 --> 02:42:12,681 Create one coordinated. 7332 02:42:12,681 --> 02:42:14,681 Regional ecosystem. 7333 02:42:15,451 --> 02:42:15,851 Technology modernization and 7334 02:42:15,851 --> 02:42:16,585 data governance. 7335 02:42:16,585 --> 02:42:18,320 Are also. 7336 02:42:18,320 --> 02:42:20,188 Critical to this. 7337 02:42:20,188 --> 02:42:22,188 Proposal. 7338 02:42:22,525 --> 02:42:23,590 >> um, all projects. 7339 02:42:23,590 --> 02:42:24,160 >> will. 7340 02:42:24,160 --> 02:42:25,940 Reinforce one theory. 7341 02:42:25,940 --> 02:42:26,662 Of change. 7342 02:42:26,662 --> 02:42:27,330 Our theory of change. 7343 02:42:27,330 --> 02:42:27,763 >> is that. 7344 02:42:27,763 --> 02:42:29,165 Violent crime. 7345 02:42:29,165 --> 02:42:30,733 Declines when the region. 7346 02:42:30,733 --> 02:42:32,301 Rapidly identifies the. 7347 02:42:32,301 --> 02:42:32,768 People, places, networks. 7348 02:42:32,768 --> 02:42:34,637 >> and. 7349 02:42:34,637 --> 02:42:35,270 Conditions driving violence. 7350 02:42:35,270 --> 02:42:36,205 As we. 7351 02:42:36,205 --> 02:42:37,906 >> build our. 7352 02:42:37,906 --> 02:42:38,274 Proposal we are looking at 7353 02:42:38,274 --> 02:42:39,642 sustainability. 7354 02:42:39,642 --> 02:42:41,210 We're using. 7355 02:42:41,210 --> 02:42:42,278 Model cities funding as an. 7356 02:42:42,278 --> 02:42:43,713 Accelerator not as a. 7357 02:42:43,713 --> 02:42:45,713 Permanent funding source. 7358 02:42:46,348 --> 02:42:46,682 The goal of the goal is to 7359 02:42:46,682 --> 02:42:47,250 build. 7360 02:42:47,250 --> 02:42:49,250 Capabilities. 7361 02:42:49,518 --> 02:42:51,518 >> partnerships, infrastructure 7362 02:42:51,887 --> 02:42:52,388 and an operating model that 7363 02:42:52,388 --> 02:42:53,756 charlotte-mecklenburg. 7364 02:42:53,756 --> 02:42:55,624 Can sustain long. 7365 02:42:55,624 --> 02:42:58,128 After the federal award wins. 7366 02:42:58,128 --> 02:42:58,929 And lastly, there are seven. 7367 02:42:58,929 --> 02:43:00,163 Goals that they. 7368 02:43:00,163 --> 02:43:02,563 Require that we meet. 7369 02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:04,701 Here. 7370 02:43:04,701 --> 02:43:06,701 >> we've made. 7371 02:43:07,270 --> 02:43:09,270 A presentation. 7372 02:43:10,173 --> 02:43:11,274 That really shows a visit, a. 7373 02:43:11,274 --> 02:43:13,142 Visual um. 7374 02:43:13,142 --> 02:43:14,845 Connection between. 7375 02:43:14,845 --> 02:43:15,212 With the public safety 7376 02:43:15,212 --> 02:43:16,747 ecosystem. 7377 02:43:16,747 --> 02:43:17,848 The framework. 7378 02:43:17,848 --> 02:43:19,416 Starts with the. 7379 02:43:19,416 --> 02:43:20,830 Understanding that we cannot do 7380 02:43:20,830 --> 02:43:22,830 this alone. 7381 02:43:22,419 --> 02:43:23,219 Safer communities require 7382 02:43:23,219 --> 02:43:23,687 integrated action. 7383 02:43:23,687 --> 02:43:25,588 Across law. 7384 02:43:25,588 --> 02:43:26,222 Enforcement, behavioral health 7385 02:43:26,222 --> 02:43:27,157 ,victim. 7386 02:43:27,157 --> 02:43:29,157 Services. 7387 02:43:29,192 --> 02:43:30,293 >> corrections, technology. 7388 02:43:30,293 --> 02:43:31,328 Use services. 7389 02:43:31,328 --> 02:43:32,796 Workforce development. 7390 02:43:32,796 --> 02:43:33,730 And community partners. 7391 02:43:33,730 --> 02:43:35,132 The model. 7392 02:43:35,132 --> 02:43:35,499 Connects the work. 7393 02:43:35,499 --> 02:43:37,200 Across the. 7394 02:43:37,200 --> 02:43:38,635 >> continuum detecting. 7395 02:43:38,635 --> 02:43:38,769 Threats, analyzing information 7396 02:43:38,769 --> 02:43:40,769 . 7397 02:43:41,405 --> 02:43:41,772 And intervening effectively and 7398 02:43:41,772 --> 02:43:43,772 stabilizing. 7399 02:43:43,940 --> 02:43:45,242 Individuals and families, 7400 02:43:45,242 --> 02:43:45,708 supporting reintegration and. 7401 02:43:45,708 --> 02:43:47,277 creating the. 7402 02:43:47,277 --> 02:43:48,679 >> conditions for people. 7403 02:43:48,679 --> 02:43:49,614 And the neighborhoods. 7404 02:43:49,614 --> 02:43:51,614 To thrive. 7405 02:43:52,116 --> 02:43:54,451 We will use technology as. 7406 02:43:54,451 --> 02:43:54,685 >> a and data as a connective 7407 02:43:54,685 --> 02:43:56,353 tissue. 7408 02:43:56,353 --> 02:43:56,687 Regional data sharing, real 7409 02:43:56,687 --> 02:43:58,687 time. 7410 02:43:58,722 --> 02:43:59,189 Intelligence analytics and. 7411 02:43:59,189 --> 02:44:01,580 Modernized public. 7412 02:44:01,580 --> 02:44:01,625 Safety technology help. 7413 02:44:01,625 --> 02:44:02,920 >> our. 7414 02:44:02,920 --> 02:44:04,920 Partners develop. 7415 02:44:04,127 --> 02:44:04,361 >> a more complete picture of 7416 02:44:04,361 --> 02:44:05,628 threats. 7417 02:44:05,628 --> 02:44:07,628 Needs, interventions. 7418 02:44:07,732 --> 02:44:09,732 And outcomes. 7419 02:44:12,636 --> 02:44:14,305 This is what makes charlotte. 7420 02:44:14,305 --> 02:44:15,706 Mecklenburg competitive. 7421 02:44:15,706 --> 02:44:18,106 The region already has. 7422 02:44:18,375 --> 02:44:18,709 Many many of the necessary 7423 02:44:18,709 --> 02:44:20,277 partners. 7424 02:44:20,277 --> 02:44:22,146 Capabilities and initiatives. 7425 02:44:22,146 --> 02:44:23,113 The missing opportunity will. 7426 02:44:23,113 --> 02:44:25,283 Allow us to connect. 7427 02:44:25,283 --> 02:44:27,683 Accelerate and scale them. 7428 02:44:32,456 --> 02:44:32,823 While the whole of the city 7429 02:44:32,823 --> 02:44:33,291 approach. 7430 02:44:33,291 --> 02:44:34,580 Describes the. 7431 02:44:34,580 --> 02:44:34,759 >> system how. 7432 02:44:34,759 --> 02:44:35,226 >> the system. 7433 02:44:35,226 --> 02:44:35,693 Works at. 7434 02:44:35,693 --> 02:44:36,160 >> a. 7435 02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:37,261 Macro level. 7436 02:44:37,261 --> 02:44:37,728 The micro. 7437 02:44:37,728 --> 02:44:39,129 Level view. 7438 02:44:39,129 --> 02:44:40,699 It asks. 7439 02:44:40,699 --> 02:44:42,100 What happens to an individual. 7440 02:44:42,100 --> 02:44:43,501 Victim or. 7441 02:44:43,501 --> 02:44:43,868 Alleged offender as they move 7442 02:44:43,868 --> 02:44:44,636 through the. 7443 02:44:44,636 --> 02:44:45,336 System. 7444 02:44:45,336 --> 02:44:46,270 >> at the. 7445 02:44:46,270 --> 02:44:47,205 Macro level, mci. 7446 02:44:47,205 --> 02:44:48,940 Builds a. 7447 02:44:48,940 --> 02:44:50,208 Coordinated public safety 7448 02:44:50,208 --> 02:44:52,760 ecosystem at the micro. 7449 02:44:52,760 --> 02:44:52,910 Level it ensures that that 7450 02:44:52,910 --> 02:44:54,946 ecosystem works for the. 7451 02:44:54,946 --> 02:44:56,681 individual protecting the 7452 02:44:56,681 --> 02:44:58,681 victim holding. 7453 02:44:58,884 --> 02:45:00,318 The offender appropriately 7454 02:45:00,318 --> 02:45:01,720 accountable, addressing the. 7455 02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:02,187 Conditions that contribute. 7456 02:45:02,187 --> 02:45:04,187 To the. 7457 02:45:04,356 --> 02:45:05,657 Future violence and creating a 7458 02:45:05,657 --> 02:45:06,758 pathway towards recovery. 7459 02:45:06,758 --> 02:45:08,758 >> and stability. 7460 02:45:09,861 --> 02:45:10,228 Our goal is not simply to 7461 02:45:10,228 --> 02:45:10,929 respond. 7462 02:45:10,929 --> 02:45:12,163 >> to an incident. 7463 02:45:12,163 --> 02:45:14,163 Prevention crisis. 7464 02:45:14,298 --> 02:45:16,298 Stabilization investigation. 7465 02:45:16,401 --> 02:45:16,668 Treatment, supervision. 7466 02:45:16,668 --> 02:45:18,537 Housing. 7467 02:45:18,537 --> 02:45:20,272 >> employment and other 7468 02:45:20,272 --> 02:45:21,373 services create multiple. 7469 02:45:21,373 --> 02:45:22,774 Opportunities to. 7470 02:45:22,774 --> 02:45:24,420 Interrupt future. 7471 02:45:24,420 --> 02:45:26,420 Violence. 7472 02:45:30,114 --> 02:45:30,682 >> so as stated before. 7473 02:45:30,682 --> 02:45:31,249 >> in order. 7474 02:45:31,249 --> 02:45:32,617 To move forward to. 7475 02:45:32,617 --> 02:45:33,170 Take these initial steps. 7476 02:45:33,170 --> 02:45:33,419 >> we. 7477 02:45:33,419 --> 02:45:34,953 Will need. 7478 02:45:34,953 --> 02:45:35,254 Support from all the 7479 02:45:35,254 --> 02:45:35,721 individuals. 7480 02:45:35,721 --> 02:45:36,889 Listed on this. 7481 02:45:36,889 --> 02:45:39,391 >> list here beginning with the 7482 02:45:39,391 --> 02:45:40,359 mayor from the manager to our 7483 02:45:40,359 --> 02:45:40,726 prosecutors, our U.S. 7484 02:45:40,726 --> 02:45:41,193 Attorney's. 7485 02:45:41,193 --> 02:45:41,760 Office. 7486 02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:43,760 >> our district. 7487 02:45:43,996 --> 02:45:44,963 Attorney, our U.S. Attorney I 7488 02:45:44,963 --> 02:45:45,297 believe is in the audience with 7489 02:45:45,297 --> 02:45:47,297 us today. 7490 02:45:47,666 --> 02:45:48,266 Our sheriff, our city council. 7491 02:45:48,266 --> 02:45:50,100 Director of. 7492 02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:50,335 Health and human services and 7493 02:45:50,335 --> 02:45:51,837 then also. 7494 02:45:51,837 --> 02:45:52,871 Adult corrections. 7495 02:45:52,871 --> 02:45:54,871 >> and community partners. 7496 02:45:55,410 --> 02:45:56,308 So far we've been successful in 7497 02:45:56,308 --> 02:45:56,642 getting in speaking and meeting 7498 02:45:56,642 --> 02:45:57,610 with all. 7499 02:45:57,610 --> 02:45:58,210 These entities. 7500 02:45:58,210 --> 02:45:59,780 Um. 7501 02:45:59,780 --> 02:45:59,545 >> and we feel. 7502 02:45:59,545 --> 02:45:59,945 Comfortable that. 7503 02:45:59,945 --> 02:46:00,546 We can. 7504 02:46:00,546 --> 02:46:01,647 Move forward in. 7505 02:46:01,647 --> 02:46:02,214 >> at least doing. 7506 02:46:02,214 --> 02:46:02,481 >> the initial. 7507 02:46:02,481 --> 02:46:03,215 Steps of. 7508 02:46:03,215 --> 02:46:04,616 >> this grant. 7509 02:46:04,616 --> 02:46:05,651 Right. 7510 02:46:05,651 --> 02:46:06,510 >> and at this time. 7511 02:46:06,510 --> 02:46:06,518 >> we. 7512 02:46:06,518 --> 02:46:07,519 Will open up. 7513 02:46:07,519 --> 02:46:07,853 To any questions you MAY have 7514 02:46:07,853 --> 02:46:08,688 of us. 7515 02:46:08,688 --> 02:46:09,255 Thank you, chief patterson. 7516 02:46:09,255 --> 02:46:11,255 I've got. 7517 02:46:12,558 --> 02:46:13,659 Three council members who have 7518 02:46:13,659 --> 02:46:14,160 asked to uh to be. 7519 02:46:14,160 --> 02:46:15,394 >> now. 7520 02:46:15,394 --> 02:46:16,195 For starting with council 7521 02:46:16,195 --> 02:46:17,129 member mayfield. 7522 02:46:17,129 --> 02:46:17,763 Thank you mayor. 7523 02:46:17,763 --> 02:46:19,763 Thank you. 7524 02:46:20,432 --> 02:46:20,766 Excuse me, chief and team, a 7525 02:46:20,766 --> 02:46:21,533 couple of. 7526 02:46:21,533 --> 02:46:21,934 Questions. 7527 02:46:21,934 --> 02:46:23,669 What's the. 7528 02:46:23,669 --> 02:46:25,204 >> financial expectation. 7529 02:46:25,204 --> 02:46:26,172 Of the city yet since this is 7530 02:46:26,172 --> 02:46:27,907 only a three year grant. 7531 02:46:27,907 --> 02:46:28,674 So after that what happens? 7532 02:46:28,674 --> 02:46:29,175 Yes, sir. 7533 02:46:29,175 --> 02:46:30,577 Yes, ma'am. 7534 02:46:30,577 --> 02:46:32,612 So the city would have to 7535 02:46:32,612 --> 02:46:34,460 assume any, uh, positions that 7536 02:46:34,460 --> 02:46:35,181 we are asking for if we were 7537 02:46:35,181 --> 02:46:36,749 able to award those. 7538 02:46:36,749 --> 02:46:37,183 We are asking for a. 7539 02:46:37,183 --> 02:46:37,450 >> few. 7540 02:46:37,450 --> 02:46:38,150 Positions. 7541 02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:38,584 >> uh, for. 7542 02:46:38,584 --> 02:46:39,185 >> our. 7543 02:46:39,185 --> 02:46:39,585 Crime gun unit and. 7544 02:46:39,585 --> 02:46:41,420 >> also. 7545 02:46:41,420 --> 02:46:41,620 For our jade in our, um, gang 7546 02:46:41,620 --> 02:46:42,254 units. 7547 02:46:42,254 --> 02:46:43,190 So the. 7548 02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:44,424 >> city would be. 7549 02:46:44,424 --> 02:46:45,525 Responsible for, um. 7550 02:46:45,525 --> 02:46:46,793 Continuing those positions 7551 02:46:46,793 --> 02:46:47,600 after the grant funding. 7552 02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:47,827 Runs out. 7553 02:46:47,827 --> 02:46:49,827 >> the ex. 7554 02:46:50,463 --> 02:46:50,830 So it would be helpful to know 7555 02:46:50,830 --> 02:46:51,264 exactly. 7556 02:46:51,264 --> 02:46:51,497 >> what that. 7557 02:46:51,497 --> 02:46:53,166 Cost is. 7558 02:46:53,166 --> 02:46:53,633 >> we just passed our budget. 7559 02:46:53,633 --> 02:46:55,502 So you're. 7560 02:46:55,502 --> 02:46:57,103 Talking about us having to 7561 02:46:57,103 --> 02:46:58,404 identify additional staff that 7562 02:46:58,404 --> 02:46:59,338 will not be paid for. 7563 02:46:59,338 --> 02:47:01,338 Through this grant? 7564 02:47:01,675 --> 02:47:02,676 Uh, I also want to make sure 7565 02:47:02,676 --> 02:47:04,244 that my colleagues. 7566 02:47:04,244 --> 02:47:06,244 Understand. 7567 02:47:09,816 --> 02:47:13,416 >> that a concern that I have 7568 02:47:13,920 --> 02:47:14,254 is one that the details MAY 7569 02:47:14,254 --> 02:47:16,254 determine. 7570 02:47:17,390 --> 02:47:18,992 Whether this initiative 7571 02:47:18,992 --> 02:47:20,427 functions primarily as a 7572 02:47:20,427 --> 02:47:22,195 targeted crime reduction grant 7573 02:47:22,195 --> 02:47:22,863 or honestly becomes. 7574 02:47:22,863 --> 02:47:24,765 >> a major. 7575 02:47:24,765 --> 02:47:26,765 Federal accelerator. 7576 02:47:26,933 --> 02:47:27,301 For local surveillance 7577 02:47:27,301 --> 02:47:28,368 infrastructure. 7578 02:47:28,368 --> 02:47:30,368 So when we. 7579 02:47:31,504 --> 02:47:34,504 Look, uh, what was just 7580 02:47:34,975 --> 02:47:36,410 mentioned as far as the fact 7581 02:47:36,410 --> 02:47:39,790 that the initiative supports a 7582 02:47:39,790 --> 02:47:39,380 wide range of public safety 7583 02:47:39,380 --> 02:47:41,380 activities. 7584 02:47:44,585 --> 02:47:44,785 I want us to be very cognizant 7585 02:47:44,785 --> 02:47:46,785 . 7586 02:47:48,989 --> 02:47:50,590 That the city's selected for 7587 02:47:50,590 --> 02:47:50,891 funding will be expected to 7588 02:47:50,891 --> 02:47:52,891 demonstrate. 7589 02:47:53,127 --> 02:47:53,327 Measurable reductions in crime 7590 02:47:53,327 --> 02:47:55,196 . 7591 02:47:55,196 --> 02:47:56,764 While serving as. 7592 02:47:56,764 --> 02:47:58,466 So-called national models. 7593 02:47:58,466 --> 02:48:00,466 How do we. 7594 02:48:02,536 --> 02:48:02,836 Measure identify measurable 7595 02:48:02,836 --> 02:48:04,271 reductions? 7596 02:48:04,271 --> 02:48:05,239 So let's think about. 7597 02:48:05,239 --> 02:48:06,673 >> for profit prisons. 7598 02:48:06,673 --> 02:48:07,274 >> they're only as successful 7599 02:48:07,274 --> 02:48:09,674 as the body system. 7600 02:48:10,770 --> 02:48:11,212 So when we're talking about 7601 02:48:11,212 --> 02:48:12,313 potentially accepting. 7602 02:48:12,313 --> 02:48:12,713 >> a grant which. 7603 02:48:12,713 --> 02:48:14,415 >> is. 7604 02:48:14,415 --> 02:48:15,249 Interesting that 300 million is 7605 02:48:15,249 --> 02:48:16,784 the new magic number. 7606 02:48:16,784 --> 02:48:17,251 That keeps going around. 7607 02:48:17,251 --> 02:48:17,752 But if. 7608 02:48:17,752 --> 02:48:19,752 We're talking. 7609 02:48:19,787 --> 02:48:20,755 About this 300 million. 7610 02:48:20,755 --> 02:48:23,155 That MAY be available. 7611 02:48:24,926 --> 02:48:26,760 In awards but that's only 7612 02:48:26,760 --> 02:48:27,294 expected for 2 to. 7613 02:48:27,294 --> 02:48:29,294 >> 4. 7614 02:48:29,797 --> 02:48:31,199 Jurisdictions, I have. 7615 02:48:31,199 --> 02:48:32,300 Some concerns as. 7616 02:48:32,300 --> 02:48:33,701 Far as. 7617 02:48:33,701 --> 02:48:35,701 The expectations. 7618 02:48:36,204 --> 02:48:36,738 Of the fact that we. 7619 02:48:36,738 --> 02:48:38,306 Will be. 7620 02:48:38,306 --> 02:48:40,306 >> turning our local. 7621 02:48:40,641 --> 02:48:42,641 Law enforcement over. 7622 02:48:44,578 --> 02:48:45,681 To federal agencies because 7623 02:48:45,681 --> 02:48:46,782 there will be a lot. 7624 02:48:46,782 --> 02:48:48,782 More scrutiny. 7625 02:48:50,385 --> 02:48:50,886 When we look at the cities that 7626 02:48:50,886 --> 02:48:52,886 will be. 7627 02:48:54,155 --> 02:48:55,724 Selected for this and that. 7628 02:48:55,724 --> 02:48:58,124 Scrutiny will be under. 7629 02:48:58,526 --> 02:48:59,360 Federal guidelines versus we 7630 02:48:59,360 --> 02:48:59,827 have put a lot. 7631 02:48:59,827 --> 02:49:01,827 Of energy. 7632 02:49:03,265 --> 02:49:03,899 And I feel like we will be 7633 02:49:03,899 --> 02:49:06,568 setting ourselves up will be a. 7634 02:49:06,568 --> 02:49:07,235 Very contradictory to say that 7635 02:49:07,235 --> 02:49:09,235 we care. 7636 02:49:09,237 --> 02:49:09,871 About our local community and. 7637 02:49:09,871 --> 02:49:11,273 We're trying to. 7638 02:49:11,273 --> 02:49:12,207 Create a safe neighborhood. 7639 02:49:12,207 --> 02:49:12,941 And then. 7640 02:49:12,941 --> 02:49:14,175 >> we're bringing. 7641 02:49:14,175 --> 02:49:16,175 In federal level. 7642 02:49:18,380 --> 02:49:20,780 Engagement utilizing of which. 7643 02:49:22,151 --> 02:49:23,886 The grant itself shows the 7644 02:49:23,886 --> 02:49:24,787 opportunity of advance 7645 02:49:24,787 --> 02:49:26,787 artificial intelligence. 7646 02:49:27,189 --> 02:49:29,189 Access. 7647 02:49:30,325 --> 02:49:32,325 >> how they. 7648 02:49:32,994 --> 02:49:35,994 Plan to invest in technology, 7649 02:49:35,997 --> 02:49:38,668 what they say is strengthening 7650 02:49:38,668 --> 02:49:39,969 behavioral services for a three 7651 02:49:39,969 --> 02:49:41,237 year period that we're looking 7652 02:49:41,237 --> 02:49:43,637 at long term impact. 7653 02:49:44,373 --> 02:49:46,373 On and I'm. 7654 02:49:47,476 --> 02:49:49,245 Very concerned about what that 7655 02:49:49,245 --> 02:49:51,280 could mean for our. 7656 02:49:51,280 --> 02:49:53,280 Local community. 7657 02:49:54,820 --> 02:49:55,818 As far as enforcement and 7658 02:49:55,818 --> 02:49:57,818 militarizing our police. 7659 02:49:58,154 --> 02:49:59,922 On a federal level and how that 7660 02:49:59,922 --> 02:50:03,226 will be used to how that can be 7661 02:50:03,226 --> 02:50:03,893 used against our residents and 7662 02:50:03,893 --> 02:50:05,294 our citizens. 7663 02:50:05,294 --> 02:50:06,228 So I did. 7664 02:50:06,228 --> 02:50:07,963 Want to. 7665 02:50:07,963 --> 02:50:09,865 Share the concerns that I have 7666 02:50:09,865 --> 02:50:10,332 mayor for that I am not going. 7667 02:50:10,332 --> 02:50:11,266 To support. 7668 02:50:11,266 --> 02:50:12,835 Us moving. 7669 02:50:12,835 --> 02:50:13,603 Forward with this, but I do. 7670 02:50:13,603 --> 02:50:15,603 Want to make. 7671 02:50:15,972 --> 02:50:17,540 >> sure that we have some very 7672 02:50:17,540 --> 02:50:18,975 transparent conversations 7673 02:50:18,975 --> 02:50:21,210 around what it potentially can 7674 02:50:21,210 --> 02:50:22,945 be and what it actually looks 7675 02:50:22,945 --> 02:50:24,713 like, especially when this is a 7676 02:50:24,713 --> 02:50:25,348 part of the alleged big 7677 02:50:25,348 --> 02:50:27,348 beautiful bill. 7678 02:50:27,383 --> 02:50:28,351 I have a lot of concerns of how 7679 02:50:28,351 --> 02:50:29,785 that impacts. 7680 02:50:29,785 --> 02:50:31,785 Our majority minority. 7681 02:50:33,356 --> 02:50:34,791 Community that we have worked 7682 02:50:34,791 --> 02:50:35,725 hard to become. 7683 02:50:35,725 --> 02:50:36,359 A city. 7684 02:50:36,359 --> 02:50:38,228 For all. 7685 02:50:38,228 --> 02:50:40,628 And how that could. 7686 02:50:41,831 --> 02:50:42,432 Create an environment where we 7687 02:50:42,432 --> 02:50:43,320 are not a city. 7688 02:50:43,320 --> 02:50:43,800 >> for all. 7689 02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:44,901 Thank you. 7690 02:50:44,901 --> 02:50:46,969 >> thank you council member 7691 02:50:46,969 --> 02:50:48,572 mayfield and again just for the 7692 02:50:48,572 --> 02:50:50,774 for understanding this is a 7693 02:50:50,774 --> 02:50:52,242 preview item um held over from 7694 02:50:52,242 --> 02:50:53,944 our earlier session. 7695 02:50:53,944 --> 02:50:55,678 This is the first time it's 7696 02:50:55,678 --> 02:50:56,446 come before us anticipate that 7697 02:50:56,446 --> 02:50:56,746 it will come back before. 7698 02:50:56,746 --> 02:50:57,113 >> us. 7699 02:50:57,113 --> 02:50:57,747 But this. 7700 02:50:57,747 --> 02:50:59,747 Is a preview. 7701 02:51:00,830 --> 02:51:00,316 um, I have a council member as 7702 02:51:00,316 --> 02:51:01,384 mirror. 7703 02:51:01,384 --> 02:51:02,218 Thank you. 7704 02:51:02,218 --> 02:51:04,218 >> mayor harrington. 7705 02:51:06,523 --> 02:51:07,825 So, chief, as you know, um, I 7706 02:51:07,825 --> 02:51:08,325 supported this item at the 7707 02:51:08,325 --> 02:51:10,325 committee level. 7708 02:51:11,762 --> 02:51:11,929 Because we should always look 7709 02:51:11,929 --> 02:51:13,363 for. 7710 02:51:13,363 --> 02:51:13,830 Resources to keep our. 7711 02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:15,830 Community safe. 7712 02:51:16,299 --> 02:51:18,668 But since then I. 7713 02:51:18,668 --> 02:51:20,570 Have received a number of calls 7714 02:51:20,570 --> 02:51:22,500 from various community 7715 02:51:22,500 --> 02:51:24,500 organizations, especially from 7716 02:51:24,542 --> 02:51:26,143 immigrant and refugee community 7717 02:51:26,143 --> 02:51:26,310 concerned about this as well 7718 02:51:26,310 --> 02:51:27,244 as. 7719 02:51:27,244 --> 02:51:28,646 I read about. 7720 02:51:28,646 --> 02:51:30,646 Um. 7721 02:51:31,148 --> 02:51:31,348 What are the implications of 7722 02:51:31,348 --> 02:51:33,348 this. 7723 02:51:34,618 --> 02:51:36,220 Dollars in knpr as well as 7724 02:51:36,220 --> 02:51:36,453 guardian about how this 7725 02:51:36,453 --> 02:51:36,887 dollars. 7726 02:51:36,887 --> 02:51:38,288 >> are. 7727 02:51:38,288 --> 02:51:39,923 Attached with the federal. 7728 02:51:39,923 --> 02:51:40,925 Immigration enforcement? 7729 02:51:40,925 --> 02:51:43,427 So if you could just. 7730 02:51:43,427 --> 02:51:46,297 Help me understand so I have a 7731 02:51:46,297 --> 02:51:48,320 number of questions, um, which 7732 02:51:48,320 --> 02:51:49,633 I'm going to take my time 7733 02:51:49,633 --> 02:51:51,368 asking because I do want the 7734 02:51:51,368 --> 02:51:52,803 community to know that we are 7735 02:51:52,803 --> 02:51:53,737 doing our due diligence. 7736 02:51:53,737 --> 02:51:54,838 So first. 7737 02:51:54,838 --> 02:51:56,838 Do we. 7738 02:51:57,508 --> 02:51:57,842 Have to certify compliance with 7739 02:51:57,842 --> 02:51:59,244 immigration. 7740 02:51:59,244 --> 02:52:01,244 Enforcement? 7741 02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:04,915 >> uh, if we were to be awarded 7742 02:52:04,915 --> 02:52:05,383 this grant and precisely what. 7743 02:52:05,383 --> 02:52:07,251 >> would. 7744 02:52:07,251 --> 02:52:08,186 That require cmpd to do? 7745 02:52:08,186 --> 02:52:08,953 Okay. 7746 02:52:08,953 --> 02:52:10,287 >> yes ma'am. 7747 02:52:10,287 --> 02:52:11,422 And I'm x MISS Battle to come 7748 02:52:11,422 --> 02:52:12,523 down just to talk from the. 7749 02:52:12,523 --> 02:52:14,592 Legal perspective but I will 7750 02:52:14,592 --> 02:52:14,925 state um as the chief of this 7751 02:52:14,925 --> 02:52:16,494 city that. 7752 02:52:16,494 --> 02:52:17,896 Uh, we would not. 7753 02:52:17,896 --> 02:52:18,363 Consent or we would. 7754 02:52:18,363 --> 02:52:18,830 >> not. 7755 02:52:18,830 --> 02:52:20,298 Accept award. 7756 02:52:20,298 --> 02:52:22,133 Dollars that is inconsistent 7757 02:52:22,133 --> 02:52:23,568 with our values of this city as 7758 02:52:23,568 --> 02:52:24,869 a police department we don't 7759 02:52:24,869 --> 02:52:25,970 enforce immigration laws. 7760 02:52:25,970 --> 02:52:26,604 That would be our stance and 7761 02:52:26,604 --> 02:52:27,705 that would be our. 7762 02:52:27,705 --> 02:52:28,390 Position because that's what is 7763 02:52:28,390 --> 02:52:28,839 currently is. 7764 02:52:28,839 --> 02:52:29,941 Right now. 7765 02:52:29,941 --> 02:52:31,675 But I'm being asked MISS Battle 7766 02:52:31,675 --> 02:52:33,412 should come forth just to talk 7767 02:52:33,412 --> 02:52:34,879 about our compliance or what 7768 02:52:34,879 --> 02:52:35,247 this grant MAY require. 7769 02:52:35,247 --> 02:52:35,747 >> as. 7770 02:52:35,747 --> 02:52:36,515 It pertains. 7771 02:52:36,515 --> 02:52:37,916 >> to ice. 7772 02:52:37,916 --> 02:52:39,916 And immigration. 7773 02:52:40,885 --> 02:52:41,820 Good evening. 7774 02:52:41,820 --> 02:52:43,855 Again jessica battle with. 7775 02:52:43,855 --> 02:52:45,323 The city attorney's office. 7776 02:52:45,323 --> 02:52:46,491 The grant application. 7777 02:52:46,491 --> 02:52:47,758 Process would require the. 7778 02:52:47,758 --> 02:52:48,860 Mayor or a senior. 7779 02:52:48,860 --> 02:52:51,630 Official from the city of 7780 02:52:51,630 --> 02:52:52,364 charlotte to sign certain 7781 02:52:52,364 --> 02:52:53,298 certifications as part of the. 7782 02:52:53,298 --> 02:52:55,167 Grant process. 7783 02:52:55,167 --> 02:52:56,435 That certification document 7784 02:52:56,435 --> 02:52:58,303 does reference several. 7785 02:52:58,303 --> 02:52:59,871 Federal statutes, um. 7786 02:52:59,871 --> 02:53:00,105 That the city would. 7787 02:53:00,105 --> 02:53:02,105 Have to. 7788 02:53:02,307 --> 02:53:03,275 >> comply with those statutes 7789 02:53:03,275 --> 02:53:04,420 on their face. 7790 02:53:04,420 --> 02:53:04,910 Do not create. 7791 02:53:04,910 --> 02:53:06,411 Any affirmative. 7792 02:53:06,411 --> 02:53:07,445 Duty on. 7793 02:53:07,445 --> 02:53:07,880 >> the law enforcement agency. 7794 02:53:07,880 --> 02:53:08,981 Or the. 7795 02:53:08,981 --> 02:53:10,981 City to. 7796 02:53:11,150 --> 02:53:12,451 Communicate or share 7797 02:53:12,451 --> 02:53:13,385 information with immigration. 7798 02:53:13,385 --> 02:53:15,385 Um the. 7799 02:53:15,721 --> 02:53:15,921 Certification document that 7800 02:53:15,921 --> 02:53:16,855 would. 7801 02:53:16,855 --> 02:53:17,956 need to be signed. 7802 02:53:17,956 --> 02:53:19,956 Also does not. 7803 02:53:19,958 --> 02:53:21,994 Create any affirmative duty. 7804 02:53:21,994 --> 02:53:23,762 On the city of charlotte or the 7805 02:53:23,762 --> 02:53:23,995 applying law enforcement 7806 02:53:23,995 --> 02:53:25,995 agency. 7807 02:53:26,599 --> 02:53:28,968 To have any affirmative duty to 7808 02:53:28,968 --> 02:53:30,403 share information with ice or 7809 02:53:30,403 --> 02:53:31,337 federal immigration entities. 7810 02:53:31,337 --> 02:53:32,738 Um. 7811 02:53:32,738 --> 02:53:33,372 If cmpd were. 7812 02:53:33,372 --> 02:53:34,600 >> to be. 7813 02:53:34,600 --> 02:53:35,407 Awarded the. 7814 02:53:35,407 --> 02:53:35,875 Grant when those grant. 7815 02:53:35,875 --> 02:53:37,276 Documents are. 7816 02:53:37,276 --> 02:53:37,876 >> presented to cpd. 7817 02:53:37,876 --> 02:53:38,811 >> they would. 7818 02:53:38,811 --> 02:53:40,345 >> be thoroughly reviewed. 7819 02:53:40,345 --> 02:53:41,279 By the city attorney's. 7820 02:53:41,279 --> 02:53:42,381 Office and any other. 7821 02:53:42,381 --> 02:53:44,381 Um affected. 7822 02:53:44,851 --> 02:53:45,318 City departments to see. 7823 02:53:45,318 --> 02:53:47,318 What if. 7824 02:53:48,287 --> 02:53:50,220 Any clauses existed about. 7825 02:53:50,220 --> 02:53:52,580 Cooperation with the federal. 7826 02:53:52,580 --> 02:53:52,391 Government in cooperation with 7827 02:53:52,391 --> 02:53:54,391 ice. 7828 02:53:55,600 --> 02:53:56,361 Specifically and at that point 7829 02:53:56,361 --> 02:53:56,962 between this council. 7830 02:53:56,962 --> 02:53:57,596 >> and the chief of. 7831 02:53:57,596 --> 02:53:58,664 Police in the. 7832 02:53:58,664 --> 02:53:58,864 Collaborative discussions like 7833 02:53:58,864 --> 02:53:59,798 . 7834 02:53:59,798 --> 02:54:00,200 This it will. 7835 02:54:00,200 --> 02:54:00,667 >> be. 7836 02:54:00,667 --> 02:54:01,434 Determined whether or. 7837 02:54:01,434 --> 02:54:02,836 Not cpd. 7838 02:54:02,836 --> 02:54:04,404 And the city would actually. 7839 02:54:04,404 --> 02:54:04,871 Accept the grant based. 7840 02:54:04,871 --> 02:54:05,972 On any. 7841 02:54:05,972 --> 02:54:07,240 >> clauses related to. 7842 02:54:07,240 --> 02:54:07,473 Immigration and the city's 7843 02:54:07,473 --> 02:54:09,442 overall. 7844 02:54:09,442 --> 02:54:11,442 Goals and objectives. 7845 02:54:11,644 --> 02:54:12,912 Uh thank you attorney battle 7846 02:54:12,912 --> 02:54:14,130 for that clarification. 7847 02:54:14,130 --> 02:54:14,213 Just wanted to follow up on 7848 02:54:14,213 --> 02:54:16,213 that. 7849 02:54:17,149 --> 02:54:19,219 So before any application 7850 02:54:19,219 --> 02:54:21,588 proceeds will council receive 7851 02:54:21,588 --> 02:54:23,588 the complete certification 7852 02:54:24,124 --> 02:54:24,791 including conditions and 7853 02:54:24,791 --> 02:54:26,791 criteria and. 7854 02:54:27,127 --> 02:54:27,360 Proposed commitments in 7855 02:54:27,360 --> 02:54:29,195 writing? 7856 02:54:29,195 --> 02:54:30,430 Uh, before we. 7857 02:54:30,430 --> 02:54:32,430 Publicly vote? 7858 02:54:33,399 --> 02:54:34,834 Yes, the. 7859 02:54:34,834 --> 02:54:35,602 >> certification document. 7860 02:54:35,602 --> 02:54:36,370 Is a one. 7861 02:54:36,370 --> 02:54:37,337 Page document. 7862 02:54:37,337 --> 02:54:37,938 With several. 7863 02:54:37,938 --> 02:54:38,872 Clauses on. 7864 02:54:38,872 --> 02:54:39,406 It that. 7865 02:54:39,406 --> 02:54:40,400 Would certainly. 7866 02:54:40,400 --> 02:54:40,840 >> be shared. 7867 02:54:40,840 --> 02:54:42,409 With this council. 7868 02:54:42,409 --> 02:54:43,343 Before signing and again the. 7869 02:54:43,343 --> 02:54:45,450 Signer being the. 7870 02:54:45,450 --> 02:54:45,412 Mayor or another senior 7871 02:54:45,412 --> 02:54:45,779 official. 7872 02:54:45,779 --> 02:54:46,413 Um at. 7873 02:54:46,413 --> 02:54:47,647 His designation. 7874 02:54:47,647 --> 02:54:48,782 >> but there will be full 7875 02:54:48,782 --> 02:54:49,282 disclosure and discussion of. 7876 02:54:49,282 --> 02:54:49,749 >> each of. 7877 02:54:49,749 --> 02:54:50,417 Those clauses. 7878 02:54:50,417 --> 02:54:50,884 And we do. 7879 02:54:50,884 --> 02:54:51,351 Have line. 7880 02:54:51,351 --> 02:54:52,452 By line. 7881 02:54:52,452 --> 02:54:53,854 Summaries of. 7882 02:54:53,854 --> 02:54:55,589 Each and every federal. 7883 02:54:55,589 --> 02:54:55,856 Statute referenced in that 7884 02:54:55,856 --> 02:54:57,491 document. 7885 02:54:57,491 --> 02:54:58,892 I appreciate that. 7886 02:54:58,892 --> 02:54:59,426 Uh, to. 7887 02:54:59,426 --> 02:55:00,360 >> um sorry. 7888 02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:00,727 Um, COUNCILMAN. 7889 02:55:00,727 --> 02:55:00,994 >> and. 7890 02:55:00,994 --> 02:55:01,328 We would. 7891 02:55:01,328 --> 02:55:01,561 >> add. 7892 02:55:01,561 --> 02:55:02,663 To that. 7893 02:55:02,663 --> 02:55:03,163 >> our partners as well because 7894 02:55:03,163 --> 02:55:03,930 we wouldn't enter. 7895 02:55:03,930 --> 02:55:04,531 And would. 7896 02:55:04,531 --> 02:55:04,931 >> would not enter. 7897 02:55:04,931 --> 02:55:05,465 >> in this. 7898 02:55:05,465 --> 02:55:07,465 By ourselves. 7899 02:55:07,601 --> 02:55:08,735 So we would have all our county 7900 02:55:08,735 --> 02:55:09,703 partners, our community 7901 02:55:09,703 --> 02:55:10,471 partners as well bringing them 7902 02:55:10,471 --> 02:55:10,805 to the table. 7903 02:55:10,805 --> 02:55:11,500 >> so. 7904 02:55:11,500 --> 02:55:11,272 They. 7905 02:55:11,272 --> 02:55:11,672 Know all. 7906 02:55:11,672 --> 02:55:12,607 >> the. 7907 02:55:12,607 --> 02:55:12,807 Provisions that are part of 7908 02:55:12,807 --> 02:55:13,440 this. 7909 02:55:13,440 --> 02:55:13,908 >> um grant. 7910 02:55:13,908 --> 02:55:15,142 Thank you. 7911 02:55:15,142 --> 02:55:16,410 >> I always appreciate your 7912 02:55:16,410 --> 02:55:17,440 collaborative leadership. 7913 02:55:17,440 --> 02:55:18,312 Uh, chief. 7914 02:55:18,312 --> 02:55:20,312 Patterson so. 7915 02:55:22,850 --> 02:55:24,850 One more so. 7916 02:55:29,724 --> 02:55:29,991 I noticed in some of this, um, 7917 02:55:29,991 --> 02:55:30,391 as I. 7918 02:55:30,391 --> 02:55:30,992 >> was. 7919 02:55:30,992 --> 02:55:31,759 Reading through and doing. 7920 02:55:31,759 --> 02:55:33,661 Uh. 7921 02:55:33,661 --> 02:55:35,229 >> some research on this, it 7922 02:55:35,229 --> 02:55:36,363 talked about potential 7923 02:55:36,363 --> 02:55:37,932 financial exposure. 7924 02:55:37,932 --> 02:55:39,500 Uh, under the. 7925 02:55:39,500 --> 02:55:39,867 Provision requiring 7926 02:55:39,867 --> 02:55:41,401 reimbursement. 7927 02:55:41,401 --> 02:55:42,870 For future federal law. 7928 02:55:42,870 --> 02:55:43,837 Enforcement intervention. 7929 02:55:43,837 --> 02:55:44,710 Could you speak to. 7930 02:55:44,710 --> 02:55:44,671 That? 7931 02:55:44,671 --> 02:55:46,541 >> and who. 7932 02:55:46,541 --> 02:55:48,309 Decides when the obligations 7933 02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:50,309 trigger trigger. 7934 02:55:50,345 --> 02:55:52,345 Can to. 7935 02:55:55,483 --> 02:55:55,683 So we won't know what the 7936 02:55:55,683 --> 02:55:56,918 terms. 7937 02:55:56,918 --> 02:55:58,190 And conditions are. 7938 02:55:58,190 --> 02:55:59,286 Until we. 7939 02:55:59,286 --> 02:55:59,887 Actually receive. 7940 02:55:59,887 --> 02:56:00,354 >> an award. 7941 02:56:00,354 --> 02:56:00,988 . 7942 02:56:00,988 --> 02:56:02,858 >> and so. 7943 02:56:02,858 --> 02:56:04,893 That would outline what. 7944 02:56:04,893 --> 02:56:06,761 You know is expected. 7945 02:56:06,761 --> 02:56:07,862 And right now. 7946 02:56:07,862 --> 02:56:09,264 All we know. 7947 02:56:09,264 --> 02:56:09,764 Is exactly what you're reading 7948 02:56:09,764 --> 02:56:10,331 there and. 7949 02:56:10,331 --> 02:56:11,933 >> there. 7950 02:56:11,933 --> 02:56:12,367 Really is no more information 7951 02:56:12,367 --> 02:56:13,167 at this. 7952 02:56:13,167 --> 02:56:15,167 >> point in time. 7953 02:56:15,203 --> 02:56:15,870 So we would have to wait until 7954 02:56:15,870 --> 02:56:16,337 we received. 7955 02:56:16,337 --> 02:56:16,804 >> an. 7956 02:56:16,804 --> 02:56:17,739 Award and. 7957 02:56:17,739 --> 02:56:18,206 Then it would outline. 7958 02:56:18,206 --> 02:56:18,606 >> what. 7959 02:56:18,606 --> 02:56:19,507 We were. 7960 02:56:19,507 --> 02:56:20,609 Required to do. 7961 02:56:20,609 --> 02:56:21,410 So so do. 7962 02:56:21,410 --> 02:56:23,111 A follow. 7963 02:56:23,111 --> 02:56:23,912 Up on that if we were. 7964 02:56:23,912 --> 02:56:24,980 To be. 7965 02:56:24,980 --> 02:56:26,381 One of the select. 7966 02:56:26,381 --> 02:56:27,949 One of the or. 7967 02:56:27,949 --> 02:56:29,949 One of the. 7968 02:56:30,318 --> 02:56:31,386 Cities that receives the. 7969 02:56:31,386 --> 02:56:33,386 Award would. 7970 02:56:33,421 --> 02:56:36,421 Would that come back to. 7971 02:56:37,191 --> 02:56:39,561 Council with all the criteria 7972 02:56:39,561 --> 02:56:40,996 and terms and conditions before 7973 02:56:40,996 --> 02:56:41,930 before we say yes. 7974 02:56:41,930 --> 02:56:42,331 Yes we would. 7975 02:56:42,331 --> 02:56:42,664 >> have. 7976 02:56:42,664 --> 02:56:43,398 To come. 7977 02:56:43,398 --> 02:56:43,732 Back to council. 7978 02:56:43,732 --> 02:56:45,434 It would. 7979 02:56:45,434 --> 02:56:46,835 >> go like um MISS Battle said. 7980 02:56:46,835 --> 02:56:47,936 Through the city. 7981 02:56:47,936 --> 02:56:48,437 Attorney's office. 7982 02:56:48,437 --> 02:56:50,138 Because it is. 7983 02:56:50,138 --> 02:56:50,338 >> a contract and then it 7984 02:56:50,338 --> 02:56:50,906 would. 7985 02:56:50,906 --> 02:56:52,440 >> go through. 7986 02:56:52,440 --> 02:56:52,908 Council to. 7987 02:56:52,908 --> 02:56:54,442 Accept the. 7988 02:56:54,442 --> 02:56:56,345 >> award or not. 7989 02:56:56,345 --> 02:56:56,946 Okay that's fair and our. 7990 02:56:56,946 --> 02:56:58,946 Partners um. 7991 02:56:59,915 --> 02:57:00,416 So uh while if. 7992 02:57:00,416 --> 02:57:01,350 >> we. 7993 02:57:01,350 --> 02:57:03,520 Can also look at. 7994 02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:04,620 Uh in addition to financial. 7995 02:57:04,620 --> 02:57:05,387 Exposure I would also like. 7996 02:57:05,387 --> 02:57:07,387 Us to. 7997 02:57:08,523 --> 02:57:10,258 Also look into uh funding 7998 02:57:10,258 --> 02:57:11,393 concerning homelessness and 7999 02:57:11,393 --> 02:57:12,795 mental health treatment. 8000 02:57:12,795 --> 02:57:14,363 Um, our. 8001 02:57:14,363 --> 02:57:16,232 public public. 8002 02:57:16,232 --> 02:57:18,601 Space enforcement that we would 8003 02:57:18,601 --> 02:57:21,470 be liable for in terms of 8004 02:57:21,470 --> 02:57:22,171 enforcing uh, so as that could. 8005 02:57:22,171 --> 02:57:24,171 >> be part. 8006 02:57:24,206 --> 02:57:25,941 Of the due diligence if we were 8007 02:57:25,941 --> 02:57:27,343 to be awarded this grant. 8008 02:57:27,343 --> 02:57:28,911 Um. 8009 02:57:28,911 --> 02:57:29,378 >> councilmember ajmera. 8010 02:57:29,378 --> 02:57:30,947 Yes. 8011 02:57:30,947 --> 02:57:32,148 >> if I MAY add. 8012 02:57:32,148 --> 02:57:33,516 Another statement about the. 8013 02:57:33,516 --> 02:57:34,617 Financial obligations. 8014 02:57:34,617 --> 02:57:36,180 There is a clause. 8015 02:57:36,180 --> 02:57:36,452 In the grant application. 8016 02:57:36,452 --> 02:57:37,353 >> that. 8017 02:57:37,353 --> 02:57:38,454 If there were to be a. 8018 02:57:38,454 --> 02:57:40,322 Quote, surge in. 8019 02:57:40,322 --> 02:57:41,891 Violence in the city of. 8020 02:57:41,891 --> 02:57:43,891 Charlotte that required. 8021 02:57:44,600 --> 02:57:44,426 Um deployment of federal 8022 02:57:44,426 --> 02:57:45,360 resources. 8023 02:57:45,360 --> 02:57:45,995 The city of charlotte. 8024 02:57:45,995 --> 02:57:46,428 Would be. 8025 02:57:46,428 --> 02:57:47,864 Respond or. 8026 02:57:47,864 --> 02:57:48,932 >> excuse me the granting. 8027 02:57:48,932 --> 02:57:50,500 And any. 8028 02:57:50,500 --> 02:57:52,500 Associated sub grantees. 8029 02:57:52,602 --> 02:57:54,203 >> would be responsible for 8030 02:57:54,203 --> 02:57:54,571 reimbursement for the cost of 8031 02:57:54,571 --> 02:57:55,505 that um. 8032 02:57:55,505 --> 02:57:56,439 Federal deployment. 8033 02:57:56,439 --> 02:57:58,439 >> in the city. 8034 02:57:58,775 --> 02:57:59,442 So that's in the application 8035 02:57:59,442 --> 02:58:00,376 right now? 8036 02:58:00,376 --> 02:58:00,977 Yes. 8037 02:58:00,977 --> 02:58:02,712 Okay. 8038 02:58:02,712 --> 02:58:03,846 So there is something 8039 02:58:03,846 --> 02:58:04,814 concerning to me here because 8040 02:58:04,814 --> 02:58:05,916 we do not know. 8041 02:58:05,916 --> 02:58:07,916 >> what their exposure. 8042 02:58:07,951 --> 02:58:11,870 Is if we can put that exposure 8043 02:58:11,870 --> 02:58:12,689 in numbers, if you're receiving 8044 02:58:12,689 --> 02:58:13,230 $300 million but if our 8045 02:58:13,230 --> 02:58:13,957 exposure. 8046 02:58:13,957 --> 02:58:15,957 Is 700. 8047 02:58:17,727 --> 02:58:18,695 800 or $1 billion we need to be 8048 02:58:18,695 --> 02:58:21,950 talking about that now. 8049 02:58:21,964 --> 02:58:22,499 Um, if you have fallen. 8050 02:58:22,499 --> 02:58:22,966 >> I'm sure. 8051 02:58:22,966 --> 02:58:24,670 we would. 8052 02:58:24,670 --> 02:58:26,467 >> not have a number. 8053 02:58:26,737 --> 02:58:27,871 At this time if federal 8054 02:58:27,871 --> 02:58:28,338 resources were to be deployed. 8055 02:58:28,338 --> 02:58:28,739 >> to. 8056 02:58:28,739 --> 02:58:29,139 This city. 8057 02:58:29,139 --> 02:58:30,807 It will be. 8058 02:58:30,807 --> 02:58:31,141 >> calculated based on whatever 8059 02:58:31,141 --> 02:58:32,442 calculations. 8060 02:58:32,442 --> 02:58:33,510 That the particular federal. 8061 02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:35,510 Agency uses. 8062 02:58:35,845 --> 02:58:36,450 Similar to if if the city of 8063 02:58:36,450 --> 02:58:37,280 um. 8064 02:58:37,280 --> 02:58:39,783 Excuse me if cmpd has. 8065 02:58:39,783 --> 02:58:41,218 >> to use resources for certain 8066 02:58:41,218 --> 02:58:42,520 events and where we charge for 8067 02:58:42,520 --> 02:58:43,621 the resources of. 8068 02:58:43,621 --> 02:58:44,888 Officers that need to be 8069 02:58:44,888 --> 02:58:45,550 deployed in a sort of emergency 8070 02:58:45,550 --> 02:58:46,957 . 8071 02:58:46,957 --> 02:58:47,891 Situation, um, caused by. 8072 02:58:47,891 --> 02:58:48,525 A private business. 8073 02:58:48,525 --> 02:58:50,525 For example. 8074 02:58:50,527 --> 02:58:51,495 The city has calculations for. 8075 02:58:51,495 --> 02:58:52,429 The cost. 8076 02:58:52,429 --> 02:58:52,896 Of that resource. 8077 02:58:52,896 --> 02:58:53,963 Um. 8078 02:58:53,963 --> 02:58:54,898 >> the federal government. 8079 02:58:54,898 --> 02:58:55,999 Has the same. 8080 02:58:55,999 --> 02:58:56,933 We would not know the. 8081 02:58:56,933 --> 02:58:57,568 Exact cost. 8082 02:58:57,568 --> 02:58:59,568 Unless and. 8083 02:58:59,770 --> 02:59:00,370 >> until federal resources were 8084 02:59:00,370 --> 02:59:00,871 actually. 8085 02:59:00,871 --> 02:59:02,773 Deployed here. 8086 02:59:02,773 --> 02:59:03,107 And then we sort of get an 8087 02:59:03,107 --> 02:59:03,641 invoicing of. 8088 02:59:03,641 --> 02:59:04,410 >> the. 8089 02:59:04,410 --> 02:59:04,875 Costs of. 8090 02:59:04,875 --> 02:59:05,909 That deployment. 8091 02:59:05,909 --> 02:59:07,110 I get. 8092 02:59:07,110 --> 02:59:09,110 That because. 8093 02:59:09,213 --> 02:59:11,715 The it depends on number of 8094 02:59:11,715 --> 02:59:11,982 days, number of troops that are 8095 02:59:11,982 --> 02:59:12,216 involved. 8096 02:59:12,216 --> 02:59:12,716 Right. 8097 02:59:12,716 --> 02:59:13,717 All of that. 8098 02:59:13,717 --> 02:59:14,485 But I think we should have. 8099 02:59:14,485 --> 02:59:14,953 Some sort. 8100 02:59:14,953 --> 02:59:16,953 >> of. 8101 02:59:17,155 --> 02:59:19,555 understanding going into this 8102 02:59:20,158 --> 02:59:21,592 before we even apply um what 8103 02:59:21,592 --> 02:59:23,194 that looks like because some 8104 02:59:23,194 --> 02:59:24,295 cities have gotten large 8105 02:59:24,295 --> 02:59:26,300 invoices. 8106 02:59:26,300 --> 02:59:26,330 So uh lastly. 8107 02:59:26,330 --> 02:59:28,330 Just. 8108 02:59:30,400 --> 02:59:30,868 >> has the city attorney. 8109 02:59:30,868 --> 02:59:32,868 >> uh. 8110 02:59:33,371 --> 02:59:34,506 Andrew, have you have 8111 02:59:34,506 --> 02:59:36,107 independently reviewed some of 8112 02:59:36,107 --> 02:59:37,750 these conditions and their 8113 02:59:37,750 --> 02:59:38,900 compatibility with our existing 8114 02:59:38,900 --> 02:59:40,900 city policies? 8115 02:59:41,445 --> 02:59:42,547 I have review them. 8116 02:59:42,547 --> 02:59:43,470 I've obviously had. 8117 02:59:43,470 --> 02:59:44,582 Staff engaged. 8118 02:59:44,582 --> 02:59:45,683 In the matter. 8119 02:59:45,683 --> 02:59:46,917 And we will continue. 8120 02:59:46,917 --> 02:59:47,985 To explore it based. 8121 02:59:47,985 --> 02:59:49,553 >> upon the additional concerns 8122 02:59:49,553 --> 02:59:49,855 that council is here tonight. 8123 02:59:49,855 --> 02:59:50,555 Okay. 8124 02:59:50,555 --> 02:59:51,957 >> I have a. 8125 02:59:51,957 --> 02:59:52,424 >> couple of questions. 8126 02:59:52,424 --> 02:59:53,580 Hold on. 8127 02:59:53,580 --> 02:59:55,580 Um. 8128 02:59:55,393 --> 02:59:57,393 So. 8129 03:00:04,936 --> 03:00:06,170 Chief I appreciate. 8130 03:00:06,170 --> 03:00:08,240 >> you saying that we will not 8131 03:00:08,240 --> 03:00:10,800 compromise on our values and 8132 03:00:10,800 --> 03:00:13,578 one of our values is that we. 8133 03:00:13,578 --> 03:00:14,980 Value the trust in. 8134 03:00:14,980 --> 03:00:16,715 Our communities. 8135 03:00:16,715 --> 03:00:18,149 Regardless of where they come 8136 03:00:18,149 --> 03:00:18,483 from and what their immigration 8137 03:00:18,483 --> 03:00:18,950 status. 8138 03:00:18,950 --> 03:00:20,950 Might be. 8139 03:00:22,387 --> 03:00:25,900 Because if someone when victim 8140 03:00:25,900 --> 03:00:26,825 is afraid to call 911 or a 8141 03:00:26,825 --> 03:00:28,260 witness is not willing to 8142 03:00:28,260 --> 03:00:28,494 testify because they are 8143 03:00:28,494 --> 03:00:29,395 afraid. 8144 03:00:29,395 --> 03:00:31,395 Of cmpd. 8145 03:00:32,640 --> 03:00:34,266 Collaborating with federal law 8146 03:00:34,266 --> 03:00:36,266 and federal immigration 8147 03:00:36,635 --> 03:00:37,200 enforcement, then we are losing 8148 03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:39,200 that. 8149 03:00:39,337 --> 03:00:39,571 Trust and that makes all of us 8150 03:00:39,571 --> 03:00:41,571 unsafe. 8151 03:00:44,377 --> 03:00:45,978 so, uh, I appreciate you saying 8152 03:00:45,978 --> 03:00:46,445 that we will not compromise on 8153 03:00:46,445 --> 03:00:47,450 our values. 8154 03:00:47,450 --> 03:00:47,747 So the. 8155 03:00:47,747 --> 03:00:49,448 >> question remains. 8156 03:00:49,448 --> 03:00:49,848 About our financial exposure 8157 03:00:49,848 --> 03:00:50,649 and I think we. 8158 03:00:50,649 --> 03:00:52,518 Need some more. 8159 03:00:52,518 --> 03:00:54,518 Clarity on that. 8160 03:00:54,853 --> 03:00:55,860 I certainly appreciate and 8161 03:00:55,860 --> 03:00:56,455 support. 8162 03:00:56,455 --> 03:00:58,156 All the grant that are. 8163 03:00:58,156 --> 03:00:58,991 Available, uh, to keep our 8164 03:00:58,991 --> 03:01:00,991 community safe. 8165 03:01:02,728 --> 03:01:05,965 Um, but a line that I cannot 8166 03:01:05,965 --> 03:01:08,267 cross is the any collaboration 8167 03:01:08,267 --> 03:01:08,601 with federal immigration 8168 03:01:08,601 --> 03:01:09,535 enforcement. 8169 03:01:09,535 --> 03:01:11,535 Um. 8170 03:01:13,772 --> 03:01:15,700 And that's all I have. 8171 03:01:15,700 --> 03:01:15,974 Thank you. 8172 03:01:15,974 --> 03:01:16,575 Council member edgemere. 8173 03:01:16,575 --> 03:01:17,343 Um, I would. 8174 03:01:17,343 --> 03:01:18,745 For the. 8175 03:01:18,745 --> 03:01:19,879 Council I would say that we 8176 03:01:19,879 --> 03:01:21,280 work with our federal. 8177 03:01:21,280 --> 03:01:21,481 Partners right now each in our 8178 03:01:21,481 --> 03:01:22,582 . 8179 03:01:22,582 --> 03:01:24,582 Separate zones. 8180 03:01:24,917 --> 03:01:25,418 So we as a police department we 8181 03:01:25,418 --> 03:01:26,986 enforce the law. 8182 03:01:26,986 --> 03:01:29,386 We don't enforce immigration. 8183 03:01:30,222 --> 03:01:31,190 We don't enforce administrative 8184 03:01:31,190 --> 03:01:31,423 warrants and those kinds of 8185 03:01:31,423 --> 03:01:33,392 things. 8186 03:01:33,392 --> 03:01:34,590 So we have no intentions of 8187 03:01:34,590 --> 03:01:36,590 deviating from that. 8188 03:01:36,960 --> 03:01:38,598 We will remain in our lane. 8189 03:01:38,598 --> 03:01:39,650 Um where we enforce the law. 8190 03:01:39,650 --> 03:01:40,000 >> and. 8191 03:01:40,000 --> 03:01:40,300 Any criminal. 8192 03:01:40,300 --> 03:01:41,401 Action that. 8193 03:01:41,401 --> 03:01:41,968 >> occurs. 8194 03:01:41,968 --> 03:01:43,203 I to remember. 8195 03:01:43,203 --> 03:01:45,271 Watlington just one last 8196 03:01:45,271 --> 03:01:46,372 comment if I MAY because I 8197 03:01:46,372 --> 03:01:46,873 appreciate you saying. 8198 03:01:46,873 --> 03:01:47,240 >> that. 8199 03:01:47,240 --> 03:01:49,240 But today. 8200 03:01:49,275 --> 03:01:51,644 This morning npr released an 8201 03:01:51,644 --> 03:01:53,413 article that stated that this 8202 03:01:53,413 --> 03:01:53,580 funding was specifically tied 8203 03:01:53,580 --> 03:01:55,448 to. 8204 03:01:55,448 --> 03:01:56,550 Federal enforcement. 8205 03:01:56,550 --> 03:01:58,550 Federal immigration. 8206 03:01:59,686 --> 03:02:00,200 Enforcement uh, guardian as 8207 03:02:00,200 --> 03:02:01,287 well. 8208 03:02:01,287 --> 03:02:02,656 So I think we just want to 8209 03:02:02,656 --> 03:02:03,220 double check that's all I have. 8210 03:02:03,220 --> 03:02:03,790 Thank you. 8211 03:02:03,790 --> 03:02:04,900 Thank you, councilmember 8212 03:02:04,900 --> 03:02:04,457 watlington. 8213 03:02:04,457 --> 03:02:05,158 Thank you. 8214 03:02:05,158 --> 03:02:06,359 >> MR. Mayor. 8215 03:02:06,359 --> 03:02:07,927 Um, following up on that, I'm 8216 03:02:07,927 --> 03:02:09,997 actually looking at the nlc, 8217 03:02:09,997 --> 03:02:10,998 uh, website that's speaking to 8218 03:02:10,998 --> 03:02:11,432 this particular. 8219 03:02:11,432 --> 03:02:13,000 Um. 8220 03:02:13,000 --> 03:02:13,967 >> initiative and there are a 8221 03:02:13,967 --> 03:02:15,869 couple of things that jump out 8222 03:02:15,869 --> 03:02:16,690 at me the first one being that 8223 03:02:16,690 --> 03:02:16,369 . 8224 03:02:16,369 --> 03:02:17,604 Um. 8225 03:02:17,604 --> 03:02:19,539 >> exactly like. 8226 03:02:19,539 --> 03:02:20,907 Was just mentioned. 8227 03:02:20,907 --> 03:02:22,509 It says here. 8228 03:02:22,509 --> 03:02:24,210 That finally local government 8229 03:02:24,210 --> 03:02:25,812 should carefully review all 8230 03:02:25,812 --> 03:02:26,179 eligibility requirements and 8231 03:02:26,179 --> 03:02:27,848 certifications. 8232 03:02:27,848 --> 03:02:29,750 The solicitation includes 8233 03:02:29,750 --> 03:02:31,352 provisions related to federal 8234 03:02:31,352 --> 03:02:31,919 immigration information sharing 8235 03:02:31,919 --> 03:02:32,953 requirements and identifies 8236 03:02:32,953 --> 03:02:33,921 certain activities that are not 8237 03:02:33,921 --> 03:02:35,921 eligible for funding. 8238 03:02:36,289 --> 03:02:37,391 Um so I would like to 8239 03:02:37,391 --> 03:02:39,791 understand very very clearly 8240 03:02:39,926 --> 03:02:41,528 what specifically that means 8241 03:02:41,528 --> 03:02:42,763 because it does raise concern. 8242 03:02:42,763 --> 03:02:44,665 Um and it's not something I 8243 03:02:44,665 --> 03:02:45,199 will be prepared to uh, support 8244 03:02:45,199 --> 03:02:47,199 at this time. 8245 03:02:47,535 --> 03:02:50,710 Um, the other piece that stuck 8246 03:02:50,710 --> 03:02:51,338 out to me, um, about this 8247 03:02:51,338 --> 03:02:53,738 particular initiative is that 8248 03:02:54,410 --> 03:02:55,209 it says dog or excuse me, doj 8249 03:02:55,209 --> 03:02:56,744 will administer the initiative 8250 03:02:56,744 --> 03:02:58,450 through cooperative agreements 8251 03:02:58,450 --> 03:02:58,212 rather than traditional grants 8252 03:02:58,212 --> 03:03:00,212 . 8253 03:03:00,414 --> 03:03:02,317 This structure allows doj to 8254 03:03:02,317 --> 03:03:03,284 maintain a more active role in 8255 03:03:03,284 --> 03:03:04,252 project planning, 8256 03:03:04,252 --> 03:03:05,520 implementation and oversight 8257 03:03:05,520 --> 03:03:06,954 throughout the award period. 8258 03:03:06,954 --> 03:03:08,823 Communities should be prepared 8259 03:03:08,823 --> 03:03:09,957 for a higher level of federal 8260 03:03:09,957 --> 03:03:11,259 engagement than they MAY 8261 03:03:11,259 --> 03:03:11,592 experience under other grant 8262 03:03:11,592 --> 03:03:13,592 programs. 8263 03:03:13,761 --> 03:03:16,597 So both of those things for me 8264 03:03:16,597 --> 03:03:17,565 are frankly red flags. 8265 03:03:17,565 --> 03:03:19,565 Um. 8266 03:03:20,835 --> 03:03:22,270 >> so I would really want to 8267 03:03:22,270 --> 03:03:24,270 understand much more 8268 03:03:24,339 --> 03:03:24,606 specifically what has been 8269 03:03:24,606 --> 03:03:26,606 reviewed. 8270 03:03:27,410 --> 03:03:28,309 I know uh both attorneys have 8271 03:03:28,309 --> 03:03:29,744 mentioned that they reviewed it 8272 03:03:29,744 --> 03:03:30,780 and that the on its face is in 8273 03:03:30,780 --> 03:03:31,645 conflict. 8274 03:03:31,645 --> 03:03:32,480 I'd like to see that line by 8275 03:03:32,480 --> 03:03:35,490 line because what I'm reading 8276 03:03:35,490 --> 03:03:35,349 here is is extremely concerning 8277 03:03:35,349 --> 03:03:37,349 for me. 8278 03:03:37,853 --> 03:03:38,153 Um, I'd also like to 8279 03:03:38,153 --> 03:03:39,421 understand. 8280 03:03:39,421 --> 03:03:41,156 Um. 8281 03:03:41,156 --> 03:03:43,156 ,what specifically. 8282 03:03:43,358 --> 03:03:43,692 We would be using this or 8283 03:03:43,692 --> 03:03:44,192 hoping. 8284 03:03:44,192 --> 03:03:45,393 >> to use. 8285 03:03:45,393 --> 03:03:47,629 This funding for if we're 8286 03:03:47,629 --> 03:03:49,831 looking at $300 million and 2 8287 03:03:49,831 --> 03:03:51,432 to 4 million or 2 to 4 um 8288 03:03:51,432 --> 03:03:53,432 cities being awarded 8289 03:03:54,402 --> 03:03:56,402 essentially 75 to $150 million 8290 03:03:57,339 --> 03:03:59,274 and if what we're able to um, 8291 03:03:59,274 --> 03:04:01,900 purchase if you will or what's 8292 03:04:01,900 --> 03:04:03,379 eligible for support is hiring 8293 03:04:03,379 --> 03:04:04,813 and retention purchase or lease 8294 03:04:04,813 --> 03:04:05,780 of equipment, tools or 8295 03:04:05,780 --> 03:04:07,215 technology training and 8296 03:04:07,215 --> 03:04:08,516 professional development 8297 03:04:08,516 --> 03:04:10,251 facility costs, mental health 8298 03:04:10,251 --> 03:04:11,553 and substance use services, 8299 03:04:11,553 --> 03:04:12,822 reentry transitional support 8300 03:04:12,822 --> 03:04:14,822 and recidivism reduction 8301 03:04:14,890 --> 03:04:15,691 programs or services, victim 8302 03:04:15,691 --> 03:04:16,825 services and youth crime 8303 03:04:16,825 --> 03:04:17,159 prevention and intervention 8304 03:04:17,159 --> 03:04:19,159 services. 8305 03:04:19,495 --> 03:04:21,530 I'd be I'd like to see um. 8306 03:04:21,530 --> 03:04:23,465 What it is specifically that we 8307 03:04:23,465 --> 03:04:26,301 would be asking for to the tune 8308 03:04:26,301 --> 03:04:28,203 of 75 to 150 million before I 8309 03:04:28,203 --> 03:04:29,370 could be in position to uh to 8310 03:04:29,370 --> 03:04:29,639 support anything. 8311 03:04:29,639 --> 03:04:31,274 Uh. 8312 03:04:31,274 --> 03:04:32,875 >> I'd like I would want to see 8313 03:04:32,875 --> 03:04:33,208 what we have currently 8314 03:04:33,208 --> 03:04:33,542 particularly. 8315 03:04:33,542 --> 03:04:34,176 >> with. 8316 03:04:34,176 --> 03:04:34,477 As it relates. 8317 03:04:34,477 --> 03:04:35,440 >> to. 8318 03:04:35,440 --> 03:04:37,440 Uh, technology. 8319 03:04:37,346 --> 03:04:38,314 Is it doing the job and what 8320 03:04:38,314 --> 03:04:39,148 additional investment would 8321 03:04:39,148 --> 03:04:41,148 actually get us? 8322 03:04:41,483 --> 03:04:42,918 Um, because I've got um 8323 03:04:42,918 --> 03:04:45,318 tremendous concern in regards 8324 03:04:46,388 --> 03:04:47,357 to how this enables um, uh, the 8325 03:04:47,357 --> 03:04:48,958 acceleration of artificial 8326 03:04:48,958 --> 03:04:49,926 intelligence systems etc. Etc. 8327 03:04:49,926 --> 03:04:51,361 I would want to know 8328 03:04:51,361 --> 03:04:52,328 specifically how it's used, 8329 03:04:52,328 --> 03:04:53,929 especially given that the 8330 03:04:53,929 --> 03:04:55,364 federal government would then 8331 03:04:55,364 --> 03:04:56,632 be much more involved in the 8332 03:04:56,632 --> 03:04:58,632 implementation and oversight. 8333 03:04:58,834 --> 03:05:00,102 Where I sit right now I'm not 8334 03:05:00,102 --> 03:05:02,502 interested in supporting this. 8335 03:05:03,872 --> 03:05:06,376 Um, it feels far more risky 8336 03:05:06,376 --> 03:05:07,377 than than what we know at this 8337 03:05:07,377 --> 03:05:08,778 point just given the track 8338 03:05:08,778 --> 03:05:10,546 record frankly of this 8339 03:05:10,546 --> 03:05:11,214 administration respectfully it 8340 03:05:11,214 --> 03:05:12,615 feels like we are. 8341 03:05:12,615 --> 03:05:13,249 Opening pandora's box. 8342 03:05:13,249 --> 03:05:15,249 But um. 8343 03:05:15,418 --> 03:05:15,618 I know we're not voting today 8344 03:05:15,618 --> 03:05:17,618 so. 8345 03:05:17,787 --> 03:05:18,454 Certainly I remain open to 8346 03:05:18,454 --> 03:05:19,722 additional information but 8347 03:05:19,722 --> 03:05:20,923 there's there's a lot here that 8348 03:05:20,923 --> 03:05:21,857 I would need to be a lot more. 8349 03:05:21,857 --> 03:05:22,125 Comfortable with. 8350 03:05:22,125 --> 03:05:23,126 Sure. 8351 03:05:23,126 --> 03:05:24,940 >> and thank you for that 8352 03:05:24,940 --> 03:05:25,695 doctor watlington and so we do 8353 03:05:25,695 --> 03:05:26,963 have a listing of items that we 8354 03:05:26,963 --> 03:05:27,163 are asking in meeting with all 8355 03:05:27,163 --> 03:05:29,163 our. 8356 03:05:29,332 --> 03:05:30,633 Partners um, to be able to put 8357 03:05:30,633 --> 03:05:32,335 this whole system together. 8358 03:05:32,335 --> 03:05:33,169 So we're happy to get a listing 8359 03:05:33,169 --> 03:05:34,103 of that as we're still. 8360 03:05:34,103 --> 03:05:35,171 Working through. 8361 03:05:35,171 --> 03:05:35,805 Those final details. 8362 03:05:35,805 --> 03:05:36,139 Um, we. 8363 03:05:36,139 --> 03:05:37,607 Just have. 8364 03:05:37,607 --> 03:05:38,407 >> a deadline of SEPTEMBER. 8365 03:05:38,407 --> 03:05:38,908 >> 1st and so we wanted. 8366 03:05:38,908 --> 03:05:39,208 >> to bring it. 8367 03:05:39,208 --> 03:05:40,277 Before you. 8368 03:05:40,277 --> 03:05:40,777 >> but we would certainly get 8369 03:05:40,777 --> 03:05:41,178 that list to you. 8370 03:05:41,178 --> 03:05:42,112 Thank you. 8371 03:05:42,112 --> 03:05:42,913 >> thank you. 8372 03:05:42,913 --> 03:05:44,848 >> doctor watlington. 8373 03:05:44,848 --> 03:05:45,215 Um, now we have council member 8374 03:05:45,215 --> 03:05:47,215 monsieur ortiz. 8375 03:05:47,517 --> 03:05:48,151 Uh, thank you so much. 8376 03:05:48,151 --> 03:05:49,190 Um. 8377 03:05:49,190 --> 03:05:50,887 >> thank you, chief for. 8378 03:05:50,887 --> 03:05:51,221 The presentation and thank you, 8379 03:05:51,221 --> 03:05:52,789 council. 8380 03:05:52,789 --> 03:05:53,923 Member anderson, for all your 8381 03:05:53,923 --> 03:05:54,313 work to bring this work to 8382 03:05:54,313 --> 03:05:55,525 council. 8383 03:05:55,525 --> 03:05:57,525 Um. 8384 03:05:57,561 --> 03:05:58,796 >> I want to. 8385 03:05:58,796 --> 03:06:00,431 Uh, thank you. 8386 03:06:00,431 --> 03:06:01,565 >> chief, for your, uh, 8387 03:06:01,565 --> 03:06:02,199 unwavering commitment to. 8388 03:06:02,199 --> 03:06:02,766 Reduce crime. 8389 03:06:02,766 --> 03:06:03,267 >> in our city. 8390 03:06:03,267 --> 03:06:03,767 >> I really. 8391 03:06:03,767 --> 03:06:04,701 Appreciate it. 8392 03:06:04,701 --> 03:06:06,136 And I, uh, I. 8393 03:06:06,136 --> 03:06:06,970 Support pursuing resources. 8394 03:06:06,970 --> 03:06:07,571 >> that generally make. 8395 03:06:07,571 --> 03:06:08,380 Charlotte safe. 8396 03:06:08,380 --> 03:06:09,306 Uh. 8397 03:06:09,306 --> 03:06:11,641 >> but I do have some. 8398 03:06:11,641 --> 03:06:12,609 Concerns and. 8399 03:06:12,609 --> 03:06:13,209 Hesitation. 8400 03:06:13,209 --> 03:06:15,209 >> uh. 8401 03:06:15,846 --> 03:06:16,680 >> particularly when in the doj 8402 03:06:16,680 --> 03:06:18,820 website under the. 8403 03:06:18,820 --> 03:06:19,984 Office of public affairs and 8404 03:06:19,984 --> 03:06:20,184 the press release, this grant 8405 03:06:20,184 --> 03:06:21,585 is. 8406 03:06:21,585 --> 03:06:23,620 Titled making america safe. 8407 03:06:23,620 --> 03:06:24,221 Again and, um. 8408 03:06:24,221 --> 03:06:25,189 I. 8409 03:06:25,189 --> 03:06:25,889 >> I want. 8410 03:06:25,889 --> 03:06:26,657 >> to talk. 8411 03:06:26,657 --> 03:06:28,657 Briefly about. 8412 03:06:31,495 --> 03:06:32,630 Just I have a question in the 8413 03:06:32,630 --> 03:06:35,132 presentation and in the grant. 8414 03:06:35,132 --> 03:06:36,701 Is our memphis. 8415 03:06:36,701 --> 03:06:37,768 And washington dc. 8416 03:06:37,768 --> 03:06:39,236 Stated as. 8417 03:06:39,236 --> 03:06:41,636 Models for this initiative. 8418 03:06:42,640 --> 03:06:44,740 They are they are however they 8419 03:06:44,740 --> 03:06:45,208 are not receiving funding. 8420 03:06:45,208 --> 03:06:46,243 Memphis is not receiving. 8421 03:06:46,243 --> 03:06:47,210 Funding for this. 8422 03:06:47,210 --> 03:06:47,444 >> they're not receiving 8423 03:06:47,444 --> 03:06:48,312 funding. 8424 03:06:48,312 --> 03:06:49,790 Thank you so much. 8425 03:06:49,790 --> 03:06:50,548 I only. 8426 03:06:50,548 --> 03:06:52,250 Bring this up to my colleagues 8427 03:06:52,250 --> 03:06:52,717 because uh, the. 8428 03:06:52,717 --> 03:06:53,985 Type of. 8429 03:06:53,985 --> 03:06:54,152 >> federal local policing this 8430 03:06:54,152 --> 03:06:55,860 . 8431 03:06:55,860 --> 03:06:55,586 Program seeks to. 8432 03:06:55,586 --> 03:06:56,821 Replicate. 8433 03:06:56,821 --> 03:06:58,389 >> um, has. 8434 03:06:58,389 --> 03:06:59,657 >> already produced serious 8435 03:06:59,657 --> 03:07:00,758 consequences in memphis. 8436 03:07:00,758 --> 03:07:01,225 Four people were killed an. 8437 03:07:01,225 --> 03:07:02,626 Officer involved. 8438 03:07:02,626 --> 03:07:04,950 Encounters connected. 8439 03:07:04,950 --> 03:07:04,728 >> to the memphis safe. 8440 03:07:04,728 --> 03:07:06,130 Task force within. 8441 03:07:06,130 --> 03:07:06,764 Approximately two months. 8442 03:07:06,764 --> 03:07:08,166 One was. 8443 03:07:08,166 --> 03:07:09,334 >> tyron johnson, a 24. 8444 03:07:09,334 --> 03:07:10,668 >> year old father who worked. 8445 03:07:10,668 --> 03:07:12,804 >> in his family's construction 8446 03:07:12,804 --> 03:07:13,304 business and another was jonah 8447 03:07:13,304 --> 03:07:14,572 nell, uh. 8448 03:07:14,572 --> 03:07:16,140 25 year old reportedly. 8449 03:07:16,140 --> 03:07:17,842 Experiencing a mental health. 8450 03:07:17,842 --> 03:07:18,760 Crisis when he was killed 8451 03:07:18,760 --> 03:07:18,809 during. 8452 03:07:18,809 --> 03:07:19,210 >> an encounter. 8453 03:07:19,210 --> 03:07:20,611 Involving a. 8454 03:07:20,611 --> 03:07:21,780 >> homeland security agent. 8455 03:07:21,780 --> 03:07:21,746 Uh. 8456 03:07:21,746 --> 03:07:23,746 The individual. 8457 03:07:23,881 --> 03:07:24,550 Circumstances remain subject to 8458 03:07:24,550 --> 03:07:25,951 investigation for. 8459 03:07:25,951 --> 03:07:26,151 >> four people losing their 8460 03:07:26,151 --> 03:07:27,686 lives. 8461 03:07:27,686 --> 03:07:29,387 I don't think can be. 8462 03:07:29,387 --> 03:07:29,721 Treated as an administrative 8463 03:07:29,721 --> 03:07:31,122 detail. 8464 03:07:31,122 --> 03:07:33,158 Um, for a grant. 8465 03:07:33,158 --> 03:07:35,493 And then national uh, in. 8466 03:07:35,493 --> 03:07:35,727 Washington retired army 8467 03:07:35,727 --> 03:07:36,628 captain. 8468 03:07:36,628 --> 03:07:38,329 And a. 8469 03:07:38,329 --> 03:07:38,696 >> king was detained by guard 8470 03:07:38,696 --> 03:07:39,797 members. 8471 03:07:39,797 --> 03:07:40,932 Outside her own home. 8472 03:07:40,932 --> 03:07:42,901 Uh, her attorneys. 8473 03:07:42,901 --> 03:07:43,268 Allege she was assaulted while 8474 03:07:43,268 --> 03:07:45,268 exercising her. 8475 03:07:45,604 --> 03:07:46,872 Uh, free speech rights and 8476 03:07:46,872 --> 03:07:47,306 authorities have offered a 8477 03:07:47,306 --> 03:07:48,640 different account. 8478 03:07:48,640 --> 03:07:50,175 Reading an earlier encounter. 8479 03:07:50,175 --> 03:07:52,210 I also want to. 8480 03:07:52,210 --> 03:07:54,246 Talk about last year. 8481 03:07:54,246 --> 03:07:54,579 Operation charlotte's web 8482 03:07:54,579 --> 03:07:54,946 lasted. 8483 03:07:54,946 --> 03:07:56,147 Only a. 8484 03:07:56,147 --> 03:07:57,882 >> matter of days. 8485 03:07:57,882 --> 03:07:58,216 Uh, but its effects were 8486 03:07:58,216 --> 03:08:00,216 immediate. 8487 03:08:00,886 --> 03:08:02,154 Approximately 370 people were 8488 03:08:02,154 --> 03:08:03,288 arrested in the charlotte area 8489 03:08:03,288 --> 03:08:05,288 over five days. 8490 03:08:05,624 --> 03:08:06,910 Children MISS School because. 8491 03:08:06,910 --> 03:08:07,192 Their parents. 8492 03:08:07,192 --> 03:08:08,293 >> feared family separation. 8493 03:08:08,293 --> 03:08:09,995 Work or stay home. 8494 03:08:09,995 --> 03:08:10,662 Families avoiding grocery 8495 03:08:10,662 --> 03:08:11,290 stores, medical. 8496 03:08:11,290 --> 03:08:11,763 Appointments in. 8497 03:08:11,763 --> 03:08:13,632 >> public spaces. 8498 03:08:13,632 --> 03:08:15,670 Um and heavily armed. 8499 03:08:15,670 --> 03:08:16,769 Federal agents operated. 8500 03:08:16,769 --> 03:08:18,170 In our neighborhoods and. 8501 03:08:18,170 --> 03:08:20,170 used unmarked vehicles. 8502 03:08:20,206 --> 03:08:20,673 >> now I understand this is. 8503 03:08:20,673 --> 03:08:21,140 >> a. 8504 03:08:21,140 --> 03:08:22,942 Grant memphis. 8505 03:08:22,942 --> 03:08:25,611 >> doesn't have the funding at 8506 03:08:25,611 --> 03:08:26,245 um and it's but it's. 8507 03:08:26,245 --> 03:08:28,113 A model. 8508 03:08:28,113 --> 03:08:29,214 A pattern we're seeing. 8509 03:08:29,214 --> 03:08:31,830 When federal. 8510 03:08:31,830 --> 03:08:31,717 Law enforcement agents. 8511 03:08:31,717 --> 03:08:33,717 Are in. 8512 03:08:34,520 --> 03:08:35,655 Our cities east charlotte small 8513 03:08:35,655 --> 03:08:37,390 businesses were also harmed. 8514 03:08:37,390 --> 03:08:39,790 Businesses reported losing an. 8515 03:08:39,859 --> 03:08:40,693 Average of approximately a 2500 8516 03:08:40,693 --> 03:08:42,940 2500 per day. 8517 03:08:42,940 --> 03:08:43,290 Some reported. 8518 03:08:43,290 --> 03:08:44,129 Losses as high as. 8519 03:08:44,129 --> 03:08:45,798 $12,000. 8520 03:08:45,798 --> 03:08:46,599 >> uh and nearly half of the. 8521 03:08:46,599 --> 03:08:47,660 Surveyed businesses. 8522 03:08:47,660 --> 03:08:47,800 >> closed. 8523 03:08:47,800 --> 03:08:50,602 For at least three days. 8524 03:08:50,602 --> 03:08:51,103 Um cmpd. 8525 03:08:51,103 --> 03:08:52,872 Has reportedly. 8526 03:08:52,872 --> 03:08:53,807 Assured residents that it. 8527 03:08:53,807 --> 03:08:54,174 Does not participate in 8528 03:08:54,174 --> 03:08:55,108 planning. 8529 03:08:55,108 --> 03:08:56,175 >> or executing ice. 8530 03:08:56,175 --> 03:08:57,110 >> or cbp operations. 8531 03:08:57,110 --> 03:08:57,777 Thank you. 8532 03:08:57,777 --> 03:08:58,211 >> actually. 8533 03:08:58,211 --> 03:09:00,211 Patterson and. 8534 03:09:00,246 --> 03:09:01,647 Um, the divisions. 8535 03:09:01,647 --> 03:09:02,915 In east east where. 8536 03:09:02,915 --> 03:09:03,249 Independent security grow for 8537 03:09:03,249 --> 03:09:04,650 your. 8538 03:09:04,650 --> 03:09:05,751 Commitment during. 8539 03:09:05,751 --> 03:09:06,180 >> the operation to ensure our 8540 03:09:06,180 --> 03:09:07,186 immigrant. 8541 03:09:07,186 --> 03:09:07,653 Communities were safe. 8542 03:09:07,653 --> 03:09:09,556 However. 8543 03:09:09,556 --> 03:09:09,723 >> after doing some research 8544 03:09:09,723 --> 03:09:11,124 the. 8545 03:09:11,124 --> 03:09:13,124 Model cities. 8546 03:09:13,326 --> 03:09:14,794 Solicitation prioritizes. 8547 03:09:14,794 --> 03:09:16,596 Supporting law enforcement. 8548 03:09:16,596 --> 03:09:17,697 Operations including. 8549 03:09:17,697 --> 03:09:19,697 Immigration enforcement. 8550 03:09:19,732 --> 03:09:21,601 Contains conditions involving. 8551 03:09:21,601 --> 03:09:23,601 dhs access. 8552 03:09:24,871 --> 03:09:25,138 Requires honoring certain dhs 8553 03:09:25,138 --> 03:09:26,940 requests. 8554 03:09:26,940 --> 03:09:27,174 >> and providing requested 8555 03:09:27,174 --> 03:09:29,174 notice. 8556 03:09:29,176 --> 03:09:30,577 So my questions in regards to. 8557 03:09:30,577 --> 03:09:31,645 That can. 8558 03:09:31,645 --> 03:09:32,145 You guarantee in. 8559 03:09:32,145 --> 03:09:33,680 Writing that. 8560 03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:35,115 >> cmpd personnel facilities. 8561 03:09:35,115 --> 03:09:36,183 Databases. 8562 03:09:36,183 --> 03:09:38,183 >> surveillance technology. 8563 03:09:38,385 --> 03:09:39,190 Intelligence and other 8564 03:09:39,190 --> 03:09:39,686 resources will. 8565 03:09:39,686 --> 03:09:40,530 >> never be. 8566 03:09:40,530 --> 03:09:41,210 >> used. 8567 03:09:41,210 --> 03:09:41,454 To support immigration 8568 03:09:41,454 --> 03:09:42,155 enforcement through. 8569 03:09:42,155 --> 03:09:44,155 This agreement? 8570 03:09:44,625 --> 03:09:45,893 I would tell you that under our 8571 03:09:45,893 --> 03:09:46,227 current law where we are not 8572 03:09:46,227 --> 03:09:47,161 compelled. 8573 03:09:47,161 --> 03:09:47,728 To do. 8574 03:09:47,728 --> 03:09:48,996 >> that. 8575 03:09:48,996 --> 03:09:49,296 We are not doing it and. 8576 03:09:49,296 --> 03:09:49,830 >> we. 8577 03:09:49,830 --> 03:09:50,631 Won't do that. 8578 03:09:50,631 --> 03:09:52,332 Uh. 8579 03:09:52,332 --> 03:09:52,666 >> fda directs charlotte to 8580 03:09:52,666 --> 03:09:54,401 provide. 8581 03:09:54,401 --> 03:09:55,969 Assistance that conflicts with 8582 03:09:55,969 --> 03:09:57,604 cmpd current policy can 8583 03:09:57,604 --> 03:09:58,672 charlotte refuse without. 8584 03:09:58,672 --> 03:09:59,772 Losing funding or being. 8585 03:09:59,772 --> 03:10:01,943 Required to repay it? 8586 03:10:01,943 --> 03:10:02,276 That is what we need 8587 03:10:02,276 --> 03:10:02,743 clarification. 8588 03:10:02,743 --> 03:10:03,311 >> and I don't. 8589 03:10:03,311 --> 03:10:03,644 >> know that we have. 8590 03:10:03,644 --> 03:10:04,645 >> the. 8591 03:10:04,645 --> 03:10:04,845 Direct answer to that just yet 8592 03:10:04,845 --> 03:10:06,845 . 8593 03:10:07,481 --> 03:10:07,915 Um, we are asking those 8594 03:10:07,915 --> 03:10:08,782 questions of the. 8595 03:10:08,782 --> 03:10:10,317 Doj so that we can. 8596 03:10:10,317 --> 03:10:11,251 Know better what that means. 8597 03:10:11,251 --> 03:10:13,251 Thank you. 8598 03:10:13,620 --> 03:10:14,254 >> um, and we just. 8599 03:10:14,254 --> 03:10:16,254 Spoke about this. 8600 03:10:17,691 --> 03:10:19,560 Briefly the solicitation um. 8601 03:10:19,560 --> 03:10:21,929 says a participating city could 8602 03:10:21,929 --> 03:10:22,363 be required to reimburse the 8603 03:10:22,363 --> 03:10:23,831 federal government. 8604 03:10:23,831 --> 03:10:24,598 We just spoke about this for. 8605 03:10:24,598 --> 03:10:25,866 A future. 8606 03:10:25,866 --> 03:10:26,200 Intervention following an 8607 03:10:26,200 --> 03:10:27,301 increase in. 8608 03:10:27,301 --> 03:10:29,301 Violent crime or. 8609 03:10:29,637 --> 03:10:30,337 Quote unquote public disorder. 8610 03:10:30,337 --> 03:10:32,720 >> that to. 8611 03:10:32,720 --> 03:10:33,807 Me raises several unanswered 8612 03:10:33,807 --> 03:10:34,642 questions particularly who 8613 03:10:34,642 --> 03:10:35,576 defines quote. 8614 03:10:35,576 --> 03:10:36,176 Unquote public. 8615 03:10:36,176 --> 03:10:37,145 This order. 8616 03:10:37,145 --> 03:10:38,179 Could include. 8617 03:10:38,179 --> 03:10:39,113 Demonstrations. 8618 03:10:39,113 --> 03:10:40,181 >> civil rights. 8619 03:10:40,181 --> 03:10:41,115 Protests or. 8620 03:10:41,115 --> 03:10:42,216 Opposition to. 8621 03:10:42,216 --> 03:10:42,683 >> federal activity. 8622 03:10:42,683 --> 03:10:43,785 Uh who. 8623 03:10:43,785 --> 03:10:44,719 >> decides when. 8624 03:10:44,719 --> 03:10:45,653 Federal intervention. 8625 03:10:45,653 --> 03:10:47,653 Is necessary? 8626 03:10:47,855 --> 03:10:48,656 Who determines what personnel 8627 03:10:48,656 --> 03:10:49,890 resources are deployed? 8628 03:10:49,890 --> 03:10:50,758 Is there. 8629 03:10:50,758 --> 03:10:52,626 >> a maximum amount. 8630 03:10:52,626 --> 03:10:55,626 Can be required to repay. 8631 03:10:55,931 --> 03:10:56,131 And can charlotte taxpayers who 8632 03:10:56,131 --> 03:10:57,666 just. 8633 03:10:57,666 --> 03:11:00,350 Recently saw an increase in. 8634 03:11:00,350 --> 03:11:00,368 Their property taxes be charged 8635 03:11:00,368 --> 03:11:00,835 for an. 8636 03:11:00,835 --> 03:11:02,103 Intervention the. 8637 03:11:02,103 --> 03:11:04,639 >> city did not request and 8638 03:11:04,639 --> 03:11:07,639 does not support and so. 8639 03:11:07,742 --> 03:11:08,743 I and then we you. 8640 03:11:08,743 --> 03:11:10,111 >> all just mentioned. 8641 03:11:10,111 --> 03:11:10,578 We still have. 8642 03:11:10,578 --> 03:11:11,345 >> no. 8643 03:11:11,345 --> 03:11:12,914 Knowledge of terms and. 8644 03:11:12,914 --> 03:11:15,314 Conditions until a warning. 8645 03:11:15,417 --> 03:11:15,984 Which seems like um and I'm now 8646 03:11:15,984 --> 03:11:16,618 I'm talking to my. 8647 03:11:16,618 --> 03:11:17,552 Colleagues. 8648 03:11:17,552 --> 03:11:18,653 That we're. 8649 03:11:18,653 --> 03:11:19,621 Running into. 8650 03:11:19,621 --> 03:11:20,355 With signing agreements. 8651 03:11:20,355 --> 03:11:21,189 that we. 8652 03:11:21,189 --> 03:11:21,556 >> don't know what. 8653 03:11:21,556 --> 03:11:22,157 >> we're. 8654 03:11:22,157 --> 03:11:23,910 Walking into. 8655 03:11:23,910 --> 03:11:25,910 Uh re. 8656 03:11:25,126 --> 03:11:26,694 I-77 that was and. 8657 03:11:26,694 --> 03:11:27,929 So I just don't think. 8658 03:11:27,929 --> 03:11:28,263 We as a city. 8659 03:11:28,263 --> 03:11:30,263 Who is. 8660 03:11:30,766 --> 03:11:31,233 >> welcoming to immigrants and. 8661 03:11:31,233 --> 03:11:32,234 People from. 8662 03:11:32,234 --> 03:11:34,234 >> different backgrounds. 8663 03:11:34,503 --> 03:11:34,703 Should sign a blank check for a 8664 03:11:34,703 --> 03:11:35,700 . 8665 03:11:35,700 --> 03:11:36,171 Future federal. 8666 03:11:36,171 --> 03:11:37,272 >> operation whose. 8667 03:11:37,272 --> 03:11:39,141 Trigger scope. 8668 03:11:39,141 --> 03:11:40,709 And cost have not been defined. 8669 03:11:40,709 --> 03:11:42,709 Um. 8670 03:11:42,744 --> 03:11:43,278 >> this is. 8671 03:11:43,278 --> 03:11:44,679 >> not a. 8672 03:11:44,679 --> 03:11:44,879 >> traditional federal grant as 8673 03:11:44,879 --> 03:11:46,114 . 8674 03:11:46,114 --> 03:11:46,749 The press release has. 8675 03:11:46,749 --> 03:11:48,617 Mentions as. 8676 03:11:48,617 --> 03:11:48,817 Npr, the guardian and other 8677 03:11:48,817 --> 03:11:50,817 news. 8678 03:11:51,153 --> 03:11:52,788 Agencies have reported on. 8679 03:11:52,788 --> 03:11:55,900 It is a cooperative agreement 8680 03:11:55,900 --> 03:11:55,758 that gives doj substantial 8681 03:11:55,758 --> 03:11:57,758 involvement in. 8682 03:11:57,893 --> 03:11:58,227 Charlotte's implementation plan 8683 03:11:58,227 --> 03:11:58,727 the. 8684 03:11:58,727 --> 03:12:00,727 Budget. 8685 03:12:01,630 --> 03:12:01,396 >> the selection of partners, 8686 03:12:01,396 --> 03:12:03,396 program. 8687 03:12:03,432 --> 03:12:04,800 Milestones, potential direction 8688 03:12:04,800 --> 03:12:05,734 over implementation. 8689 03:12:05,734 --> 03:12:07,203 And before any. 8690 03:12:07,203 --> 03:12:07,770 Application submitted. 8691 03:12:07,770 --> 03:12:08,704 And chief. 8692 03:12:08,704 --> 03:12:09,105 Um please. 8693 03:12:09,105 --> 03:12:10,339 Correct me if. 8694 03:12:10,339 --> 03:12:10,539 >> I'm wrong. 8695 03:12:10,539 --> 03:12:12,539 Um. 8696 03:12:13,642 --> 03:12:14,243 >> we we. 8697 03:12:14,243 --> 03:12:15,978 Council would. 8698 03:12:15,978 --> 03:12:17,246 Receive a complete proposed 8699 03:12:17,246 --> 03:12:18,180 application every. 8700 03:12:18,180 --> 03:12:20,580 Letter of support or. 8701 03:12:21,160 --> 03:12:21,985 proposed commitment and a 8702 03:12:21,985 --> 03:12:22,952 written legal analysis 8703 03:12:22,952 --> 03:12:23,753 explaining every obligation 8704 03:12:23,753 --> 03:12:25,753 charlotte would accept. 8705 03:12:26,756 --> 03:12:28,791 We would prepare um information 8706 03:12:28,791 --> 03:12:30,259 to give to you related to the 8707 03:12:30,259 --> 03:12:30,426 grant itself what information 8708 03:12:30,426 --> 03:12:31,193 we. 8709 03:12:31,193 --> 03:12:31,594 Have about some. 8710 03:12:31,594 --> 03:12:32,662 >> of. 8711 03:12:32,662 --> 03:12:35,620 The questions you posed. 8712 03:12:35,164 --> 03:12:36,298 And what we will or not accept 8713 03:12:36,298 --> 03:12:36,699 because at the end of the day 8714 03:12:36,699 --> 03:12:38,200 if charlotte. 8715 03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:40,536 Were to be awarded. 8716 03:12:40,536 --> 03:12:41,838 This grant and it laid out all 8717 03:12:41,838 --> 03:12:42,772 these stipulations like you've. 8718 03:12:42,772 --> 03:12:43,239 Stated like. 8719 03:12:43,239 --> 03:12:45,239 Doctor walton. 8720 03:12:45,275 --> 03:12:46,409 Stated the council member MAY 8721 03:12:46,409 --> 03:12:46,910 feel stated and we were not. 8722 03:12:46,910 --> 03:12:47,243 In agreement. 8723 03:12:47,243 --> 03:12:47,610 >> with. 8724 03:12:47,610 --> 03:12:47,944 That we would. 8725 03:12:47,944 --> 03:12:48,678 >> not. 8726 03:12:48,678 --> 03:12:50,790 Accept these. 8727 03:12:50,790 --> 03:12:51,647 >> funds and I have said that 8728 03:12:51,647 --> 03:12:52,315 repeatedly to our partners and 8729 03:12:52,315 --> 03:12:54,183 everyone else. 8730 03:12:54,183 --> 03:12:54,383 We don't have all those answers 8731 03:12:54,383 --> 03:12:55,484 . 8732 03:12:55,484 --> 03:12:57,484 Unfortunately we won't. 8733 03:12:57,521 --> 03:12:58,155 We're seeking those answers but 8734 03:12:58,155 --> 03:12:58,789 I am clear. 8735 03:12:58,789 --> 03:12:59,523 That we. 8736 03:12:59,523 --> 03:13:01,570 >> would not. 8737 03:13:01,570 --> 03:13:02,250 Accept a grant that goes 8738 03:13:02,250 --> 03:13:02,359 against what we as a. 8739 03:13:02,359 --> 03:13:02,826 City and. 8740 03:13:02,826 --> 03:13:03,226 >> a. 8741 03:13:03,226 --> 03:13:04,294 County feel. 8742 03:13:04,294 --> 03:13:05,862 >> are our values. 8743 03:13:05,862 --> 03:13:08,862 I appreciate that thank you. 8744 03:13:08,966 --> 03:13:10,266 Um, so to my colleagues I want 8745 03:13:10,266 --> 03:13:10,667 us the queen city to. 8746 03:13:10,667 --> 03:13:11,100 >> have. 8747 03:13:11,100 --> 03:13:12,902 The resources. 8748 03:13:12,902 --> 03:13:14,771 Needed to prevent violence. 8749 03:13:14,771 --> 03:13:15,873 And protect our residents. 8750 03:13:15,873 --> 03:13:16,673 Um, we can. 8751 03:13:16,673 --> 03:13:17,841 invest in. 8752 03:13:17,841 --> 03:13:19,900 Youth intervention. 8753 03:13:19,900 --> 03:13:20,410 Uh, victim. 8754 03:13:20,410 --> 03:13:21,345 Services housing. 8755 03:13:21,345 --> 03:13:22,145 Which we will be. 8756 03:13:22,145 --> 03:13:23,547 Meeting tomorrow. 8757 03:13:23,547 --> 03:13:23,747 >> to talk about our housing 8758 03:13:23,747 --> 03:13:24,281 trust. 8759 03:13:24,281 --> 03:13:25,448 >> fund policy. 8760 03:13:25,448 --> 03:13:26,316 And accountable. 8761 03:13:26,316 --> 03:13:27,250 Community policing. 8762 03:13:27,250 --> 03:13:28,818 We can. 8763 03:13:28,818 --> 03:13:29,285 Make those investments. 8764 03:13:29,285 --> 03:13:30,520 But I. 8765 03:13:30,520 --> 03:13:31,321 Believe we can make them 8766 03:13:31,321 --> 03:13:32,756 without giving the. 8767 03:13:32,756 --> 03:13:33,824 Federal government undefined. 8768 03:13:33,824 --> 03:13:34,758 Authority over. 8769 03:13:34,758 --> 03:13:36,758 >> our residents. 8770 03:13:37,594 --> 03:13:37,895 And charlotte has already 8771 03:13:37,895 --> 03:13:38,596 experienced. 8772 03:13:38,596 --> 03:13:39,797 >> what happens when a. 8773 03:13:39,797 --> 03:13:40,897 Federal surge enters. 8774 03:13:40,897 --> 03:13:41,832 Our community. 8775 03:13:41,832 --> 03:13:43,832 Memphis and. 8776 03:13:44,167 --> 03:13:44,801 Washington provide those. 8777 03:13:44,801 --> 03:13:45,836 Additional warnings. 8778 03:13:45,836 --> 03:13:47,537 About how. 8779 03:13:47,537 --> 03:13:47,871 >> federalized and militarized 8780 03:13:47,871 --> 03:13:48,305 operations. 8781 03:13:48,305 --> 03:13:48,572 >> can. 8782 03:13:48,572 --> 03:13:50,700 Escalate. 8783 03:13:50,700 --> 03:13:50,341 >> and charlotte should not 8784 03:13:50,341 --> 03:13:50,975 have to. 8785 03:13:50,975 --> 03:13:52,677 Choose between. 8786 03:13:52,677 --> 03:13:52,877 Federal dollars and the rights 8787 03:13:52,877 --> 03:13:54,411 . 8788 03:13:54,411 --> 03:13:54,945 Safety, dignity and trust of. 8789 03:13:54,945 --> 03:13:56,780 Our residents. 8790 03:13:56,780 --> 03:13:57,481 And so unless. 8791 03:13:57,481 --> 03:13:59,490 >> we get. 8792 03:13:59,490 --> 03:13:59,283 Clear written and legal 8793 03:13:59,283 --> 03:14:01,850 binding. 8794 03:14:01,850 --> 03:14:01,919 Answers regarding immigration, 8795 03:14:01,919 --> 03:14:03,787 um enforcement. 8796 03:14:03,787 --> 03:14:04,888 Federal control, national. 8797 03:14:04,888 --> 03:14:06,888 Guard deployment. 8798 03:14:07,580 --> 03:14:07,425 Information sharing, civil 8799 03:14:07,425 --> 03:14:08,493 rights. 8800 03:14:08,493 --> 03:14:08,859 Protections, financial 8801 03:14:08,859 --> 03:14:10,940 liability. 8802 03:14:10,940 --> 03:14:11,229 And charlotte's ability to 8803 03:14:11,229 --> 03:14:11,862 withdraw without penalty. 8804 03:14:11,862 --> 03:14:13,397 I cannot. 8805 03:14:13,397 --> 03:14:14,298 Support moving forward with 8806 03:14:14,298 --> 03:14:14,865 this application. 8807 03:14:14,865 --> 03:14:15,266 Thank you. 8808 03:14:15,266 --> 03:14:16,801 Thank you. 8809 03:14:16,801 --> 03:14:19,201 >> council member MR. Arias. 8810 03:14:20,700 --> 03:14:21,372 Um again this is a first read 8811 03:14:21,372 --> 03:14:23,772 of this or first. 8812 03:14:24,642 --> 03:14:25,477 A preview of this uh, council 8813 03:14:25,477 --> 03:14:26,878 member owens next. 8814 03:14:26,878 --> 03:14:27,812 Thank you. 8815 03:14:27,812 --> 03:14:28,460 >> mayor, I appreciate you. 8816 03:14:28,460 --> 03:14:29,280 I. 8817 03:14:29,280 --> 03:14:29,814 >> um I. 8818 03:14:29,814 --> 03:14:29,981 >> just want. 8819 03:14:29,981 --> 03:14:30,348 To. 8820 03:14:30,348 --> 03:14:30,782 Speak for my. 8821 03:14:30,782 --> 03:14:31,783 Colleagues who were. 8822 03:14:31,783 --> 03:14:33,184 >> not at. 8823 03:14:33,184 --> 03:14:33,384 >> the safety committee meeting 8824 03:14:33,384 --> 03:14:33,851 . 8825 03:14:33,851 --> 03:14:34,485 I did. 8826 03:14:34,485 --> 03:14:35,720 Elevate some. 8827 03:14:35,720 --> 03:14:36,120 >> concerns that I had. 8828 03:14:36,120 --> 03:14:36,887 That I. 8829 03:14:36,887 --> 03:14:37,355 >> was I. 8830 03:14:37,355 --> 03:14:38,155 Was graced. 8831 03:14:38,155 --> 03:14:38,322 With. 8832 03:14:38,322 --> 03:14:39,423 . 8833 03:14:39,423 --> 03:14:41,423 Um with. 8834 03:14:42,940 --> 03:14:42,727 Chair anderson's, um, good 8835 03:14:42,727 --> 03:14:43,295 discretion in. 8836 03:14:43,295 --> 03:14:43,662 >> letting. 8837 03:14:43,662 --> 03:14:44,620 Me ask a couple. 8838 03:14:44,620 --> 03:14:44,496 >> of. 8839 03:14:44,496 --> 03:14:45,630 Questions even. 8840 03:14:45,630 --> 03:14:45,397 >> though I'm not on. 8841 03:14:45,397 --> 03:14:45,864 >> that. 8842 03:14:45,864 --> 03:14:46,398 Committee and. 8843 03:14:46,398 --> 03:14:47,832 >> the. 8844 03:14:47,832 --> 03:14:48,767 Response of, um. 8845 03:14:48,767 --> 03:14:50,767 My residents. 8846 03:14:50,835 --> 03:14:51,836 With respect to the questions. 8847 03:14:51,836 --> 03:14:52,237 >> that I put into the room. 8848 03:14:52,237 --> 03:14:52,603 >> is why. 8849 03:14:52,603 --> 03:14:53,370 >> I have. 8850 03:14:53,370 --> 03:14:53,838 >> some. 8851 03:14:53,838 --> 03:14:54,472 confidence bringing these here. 8852 03:14:54,472 --> 03:14:55,239 Before you. 8853 03:14:55,239 --> 03:14:56,574 Um. 8854 03:14:56,574 --> 03:14:56,774 >> one of the comments that I 8855 03:14:56,774 --> 03:14:58,242 made. 8856 03:14:58,242 --> 03:14:58,409 During the initial presentation 8857 03:14:58,409 --> 03:14:58,809 to. 8858 03:14:58,809 --> 03:14:59,344 >> the. 8859 03:14:59,344 --> 03:15:00,679 Safety committee. 8860 03:15:00,679 --> 03:15:01,313 Was around. 8861 03:15:01,313 --> 03:15:02,881 Um. 8862 03:15:02,881 --> 03:15:03,815 >> my concern. 8863 03:15:03,815 --> 03:15:04,916 That um. 8864 03:15:04,916 --> 03:15:05,684 There seems to be. 8865 03:15:05,684 --> 03:15:06,251 A lot. 8866 03:15:06,251 --> 03:15:07,819 >> of. 8867 03:15:07,819 --> 03:15:09,354 Energy around. 8868 03:15:09,354 --> 03:15:10,455 Data collection. 8869 03:15:10,455 --> 03:15:11,856 And the use of data. 8870 03:15:11,856 --> 03:15:12,791 And we've already seen. 8871 03:15:12,791 --> 03:15:13,224 Through a. 8872 03:15:13,224 --> 03:15:13,458 >> number. 8873 03:15:13,458 --> 03:15:13,725 Of of. 8874 03:15:13,725 --> 03:15:14,726 Um. 8875 03:15:14,726 --> 03:15:16,294 >> really unfortunate. 8876 03:15:16,294 --> 03:15:17,396 Misuses of. 8877 03:15:17,396 --> 03:15:19,396 >> flock data. 8878 03:15:20,499 --> 03:15:21,299 Misuses of systems that exist 8879 03:15:21,299 --> 03:15:22,734 that store. 8880 03:15:22,734 --> 03:15:24,734 Um our. 8881 03:15:25,700 --> 03:15:25,303 Comings and goings around our 8882 03:15:25,303 --> 03:15:25,737 cities. 8883 03:15:25,737 --> 03:15:26,805 Um. 8884 03:15:26,805 --> 03:15:27,372 >> you know. 8885 03:15:27,372 --> 03:15:28,306 >> I, I. 8886 03:15:28,306 --> 03:15:28,774 >> wanted to raise. 8887 03:15:28,774 --> 03:15:29,875 >> that. 8888 03:15:29,875 --> 03:15:31,610 Into the room because while I 8889 03:15:31,610 --> 03:15:33,211 am very supportive of a number 8890 03:15:33,211 --> 03:15:33,678 of the elements of. 8891 03:15:33,678 --> 03:15:34,780 >> these. 8892 03:15:34,780 --> 03:15:35,715 Seven items that have been. 8893 03:15:35,715 --> 03:15:36,315 Listed for. 8894 03:15:36,315 --> 03:15:36,816 Us that are. 8895 03:15:36,816 --> 03:15:37,216 Supposed to. 8896 03:15:37,216 --> 03:15:37,516 >> be. 8897 03:15:37,516 --> 03:15:37,883 The. 8898 03:15:37,883 --> 03:15:38,984 Hallmarks of. 8899 03:15:38,984 --> 03:15:39,451 >> what would be part of. 8900 03:15:39,451 --> 03:15:40,850 Your plan. 8901 03:15:40,850 --> 03:15:41,787 . 8902 03:15:41,787 --> 03:15:42,287 >> I am unsupportive. 8903 03:15:42,287 --> 03:15:44,287 Of a. 8904 03:15:44,756 --> 03:15:46,756 Continued um. 8905 03:15:46,792 --> 03:15:47,726 Collection of data uh. 8906 03:15:47,726 --> 03:15:49,726 Just fairly. 8907 03:15:50,562 --> 03:15:51,196 Blindly uh, against all of our 8908 03:15:51,196 --> 03:15:52,298 citizens and the access. 8909 03:15:52,298 --> 03:15:52,765 That that data. 8910 03:15:52,765 --> 03:15:54,500 Um. 8911 03:15:54,500 --> 03:15:55,268 >> provides to either. 8912 03:15:55,268 --> 03:15:56,202 Federal law. 8913 03:15:56,202 --> 03:15:56,836 Enforcement or. 8914 03:15:56,836 --> 03:15:58,237 As has. 8915 03:15:58,237 --> 03:15:58,704 Been shown with cmpd. 8916 03:15:58,704 --> 03:15:59,805 >> and. 8917 03:15:59,805 --> 03:16:01,207 Other officers, misuse. 8918 03:16:01,207 --> 03:16:01,940 Of that data. 8919 03:16:01,940 --> 03:16:02,374 >> that gives me. 8920 03:16:02,374 --> 03:16:03,309 Great pause. 8921 03:16:03,309 --> 03:16:04,576 And so I did. 8922 03:16:04,576 --> 03:16:07,246 Elevate that into the room. 8923 03:16:07,246 --> 03:16:07,746 In addition to the ice concerns 8924 03:16:07,746 --> 03:16:08,147 that have already. 8925 03:16:08,147 --> 03:16:09,682 >> been. 8926 03:16:09,682 --> 03:16:10,816 Raised by my colleagues, I 8927 03:16:10,816 --> 03:16:11,751 would simply. 8928 03:16:11,751 --> 03:16:13,286 Say on this. 8929 03:16:13,286 --> 03:16:13,986 Point that um. 8930 03:16:13,986 --> 03:16:14,854 One of the. 8931 03:16:14,854 --> 03:16:16,422 >> things that gave me. 8932 03:16:16,422 --> 03:16:18,190 The most pause from the 8933 03:16:18,190 --> 03:16:19,926 presentation was any 8934 03:16:19,926 --> 03:16:21,127 descriptions of the ability I 8935 03:16:21,127 --> 03:16:22,561 believe it's this is a very. 8936 03:16:22,561 --> 03:16:23,462 Tiny slide but I believe. 8937 03:16:23,462 --> 03:16:25,664 >> it says in here. 8938 03:16:25,664 --> 03:16:27,234 To predict. 8939 03:16:27,234 --> 03:16:28,235 Crime and I. 8940 03:16:28,235 --> 03:16:28,868 Just want to. 8941 03:16:28,868 --> 03:16:30,868 >> be very. 8942 03:16:31,371 --> 03:16:31,838 Clear that I understand um. 8943 03:16:31,838 --> 03:16:33,406 Uh. 8944 03:16:33,406 --> 03:16:34,474 >> what we mean. 8945 03:16:34,474 --> 03:16:35,908 By that and what. 8946 03:16:35,908 --> 03:16:36,843 We are doing with. 8947 03:16:36,843 --> 03:16:37,777 The data. 8948 03:16:37,777 --> 03:16:38,377 That we. 8949 03:16:38,377 --> 03:16:39,345 Would be. 8950 03:16:39,345 --> 03:16:40,113 >> getting in. 8951 03:16:40,113 --> 03:16:40,913 >> addition to what we. 8952 03:16:40,913 --> 03:16:42,913 Already have. 8953 03:16:43,382 --> 03:16:44,217 That would be in furtherance of 8954 03:16:44,217 --> 03:16:45,618 predicting crime. 8955 03:16:45,618 --> 03:16:45,852 Can you can you speak to that 8956 03:16:45,852 --> 03:16:47,852 element. 8957 03:16:48,155 --> 03:16:50,560 And how much of your grant 8958 03:16:50,560 --> 03:16:50,390 application would involve 8959 03:16:50,390 --> 03:16:50,857 predicting. 8960 03:16:50,857 --> 03:16:51,791 Crime as. 8961 03:16:51,791 --> 03:16:52,258 Opposed to. 8962 03:16:52,258 --> 03:16:52,759 Some of. 8963 03:16:52,759 --> 03:16:53,459 >> the. 8964 03:16:53,459 --> 03:16:54,527 Things like I've been. 8965 03:16:54,527 --> 03:16:54,728 Told the katy blessing center 8966 03:16:54,728 --> 03:16:55,428 might. 8967 03:16:55,428 --> 03:16:56,362 >> get more. 8968 03:16:56,362 --> 03:16:57,296 Money for mental health. 8969 03:16:57,296 --> 03:16:57,697 That obviously. 8970 03:16:57,697 --> 03:16:58,631 >> is. 8971 03:16:58,631 --> 03:16:59,650 A net good. 8972 03:16:59,650 --> 03:16:59,332 >> but. 8973 03:16:59,332 --> 03:17:00,633 Help me. 8974 03:17:00,633 --> 03:17:00,767 >> understand your percentages 8975 03:17:00,767 --> 03:17:02,336 . 8976 03:17:02,336 --> 03:17:03,904 Sure and. 8977 03:17:03,904 --> 03:17:05,973 We would ask for probably a 8978 03:17:05,973 --> 03:17:07,240 minimal amount for predictive 8979 03:17:07,240 --> 03:17:09,443 analysis kinds of things. 8980 03:17:09,443 --> 03:17:10,711 What we do is with crime is we 8981 03:17:10,711 --> 03:17:11,377 gather data about where it's 8982 03:17:11,377 --> 03:17:12,946 occurring, where the. 8983 03:17:12,946 --> 03:17:13,346 Hotspots are located and then. 8984 03:17:13,346 --> 03:17:13,647 We know. 8985 03:17:13,647 --> 03:17:14,714 Where to. 8986 03:17:14,714 --> 03:17:15,849 >> effectively deploy. 8987 03:17:15,849 --> 03:17:17,216 Our resources. 8988 03:17:17,216 --> 03:17:18,318 >> um, similar like to the. 8989 03:17:18,318 --> 03:17:20,318 Corridors of opportunity. 8990 03:17:20,688 --> 03:17:22,556 So that is what we do primarily 8991 03:17:22,556 --> 03:17:23,691 is is data collection and we're 8992 03:17:23,691 --> 03:17:25,459 asking to be able to expand 8993 03:17:25,459 --> 03:17:26,727 that so that we can have more 8994 03:17:26,727 --> 03:17:28,162 analysts who are looking at 8995 03:17:28,162 --> 03:17:29,463 that data and being able to 8996 03:17:29,463 --> 03:17:30,397 determine where the crime is 8997 03:17:30,397 --> 03:17:31,365 occurring and where we should. 8998 03:17:31,365 --> 03:17:33,365 Have our resources. 8999 03:17:33,533 --> 03:17:35,602 For instance, we're asking for 9000 03:17:35,602 --> 03:17:35,802 a more analyst for our crime 9001 03:17:35,802 --> 03:17:37,205 gun. 9002 03:17:37,205 --> 03:17:38,439 Unit also for our. 9003 03:17:38,439 --> 03:17:39,507 Rapid dna unit. 9004 03:17:39,507 --> 03:17:39,907 Again, these are just. 9005 03:17:39,907 --> 03:17:40,875 >> people. 9006 03:17:40,875 --> 03:17:43,430 Who are going to process. 9007 03:17:43,430 --> 03:17:44,345 Information and help us to 9008 03:17:44,345 --> 03:17:46,745 understand where crime is. 9009 03:17:46,980 --> 03:17:47,948 We are not we have not had any 9010 03:17:47,948 --> 03:17:49,717 discussions I don't believe in 9011 03:17:49,717 --> 03:17:50,651 kelly can help me out of. 9012 03:17:50,651 --> 03:17:51,285 Any devices. 9013 03:17:51,285 --> 03:17:51,885 >> that are. 9014 03:17:51,885 --> 03:17:53,885 Just like a. 9015 03:17:54,556 --> 03:17:54,889 Predictive analysis, um kind of 9016 03:17:54,889 --> 03:17:56,889 thing. 9017 03:17:57,910 --> 03:17:59,160 I remember very clearly having 9018 03:17:59,160 --> 03:18:00,261 something like that um, in 2010 9019 03:18:00,261 --> 03:18:00,728 ,uh, under. 9020 03:18:00,728 --> 03:18:02,296 >> chief. 9021 03:18:02,296 --> 03:18:03,597 Monroe and we have kind of 9022 03:18:03,597 --> 03:18:05,499 moved away from that now it's 9023 03:18:05,499 --> 03:18:06,767 more just about data collection 9024 03:18:06,767 --> 03:18:07,868 and knowing where to put our. 9025 03:18:07,868 --> 03:18:08,436 Resources effectively. 9026 03:18:08,436 --> 03:18:09,270 Thank you. 9027 03:18:09,270 --> 03:18:09,737 >> chief, if I. 9028 03:18:09,737 --> 03:18:10,371 >> can. 9029 03:18:10,371 --> 03:18:10,838 Continue I just. 9030 03:18:10,838 --> 03:18:12,307 Um I've. 9031 03:18:12,307 --> 03:18:13,941 Received some information. 9032 03:18:13,941 --> 03:18:15,543 Some from again some of my 9033 03:18:15,543 --> 03:18:15,810 constituents who have been very 9034 03:18:15,810 --> 03:18:16,845 concerned. 9035 03:18:16,845 --> 03:18:18,313 >> about the use of block. 9036 03:18:18,313 --> 03:18:18,713 Cameras particularly. 9037 03:18:18,713 --> 03:18:19,247 Um. 9038 03:18:19,247 --> 03:18:20,815 >> an. 9039 03:18:20,815 --> 03:18:22,250 Expansion of. 9040 03:18:22,250 --> 03:18:23,184 The network. 9041 03:18:23,184 --> 03:18:24,652 Of cameras. 9042 03:18:24,652 --> 03:18:24,919 >> that would exist in 9043 03:18:24,919 --> 03:18:25,786 charlotte. 9044 03:18:25,786 --> 03:18:26,870 And they've. 9045 03:18:26,870 --> 03:18:27,421 Cited for. 9046 03:18:27,421 --> 03:18:27,888 >> me and I have not done. 9047 03:18:27,888 --> 03:18:28,355 >> my. 9048 03:18:28,355 --> 03:18:28,622 Own research. 9049 03:18:28,622 --> 03:18:29,925 On this. 9050 03:18:29,925 --> 03:18:30,258 >> so my apologies if this 9051 03:18:30,258 --> 03:18:31,359 seems off. 9052 03:18:31,359 --> 03:18:31,860 >> it seems to be well 9053 03:18:31,860 --> 03:18:32,928 supported in. 9054 03:18:32,928 --> 03:18:33,728 Some of the journalism that. 9055 03:18:33,728 --> 03:18:34,829 I've been handed. 9056 03:18:34,829 --> 03:18:35,931 But the. 9057 03:18:35,931 --> 03:18:36,564 Experience in. 9058 03:18:36,564 --> 03:18:37,332 >> atlanta where. 9059 03:18:37,332 --> 03:18:39,332 They've got. 9060 03:18:39,834 --> 03:18:40,301 28,000 integrated cameras. 9061 03:18:40,301 --> 03:18:40,768 A number. 9062 03:18:40,768 --> 03:18:41,402 >> of. 9063 03:18:41,402 --> 03:18:42,337 The headlines that. 9064 03:18:42,337 --> 03:18:42,937 I've been provided. 9065 03:18:42,937 --> 03:18:43,404 Suggest that. 9066 03:18:43,404 --> 03:18:44,839 That has. 9067 03:18:44,839 --> 03:18:46,241 >> not improved the city's. 9068 03:18:46,241 --> 03:18:47,309 Crime clearance rates. 9069 03:18:47,309 --> 03:18:48,277 Could you speak to your 9070 03:18:48,277 --> 03:18:48,911 thoughts on that if you have. 9071 03:18:48,911 --> 03:18:49,911 Any or. 9072 03:18:49,911 --> 03:18:50,412 >> if not we can. 9073 03:18:50,412 --> 03:18:51,480 Comment later. 9074 03:18:51,480 --> 03:18:53,480 But as. 9075 03:18:53,480 --> 03:18:54,182 It pertains to flat cameras so 9076 03:18:54,182 --> 03:18:56,840 we don't own any flock cameras 9077 03:18:56,840 --> 03:18:56,284 at cmpd we have access to the 9078 03:18:56,284 --> 03:18:57,986 data. 9079 03:18:57,986 --> 03:18:58,353 But we do not own any flock 9080 03:18:58,353 --> 03:18:59,587 cameras. 9081 03:18:59,587 --> 03:18:59,921 My experience have been with 9082 03:18:59,921 --> 03:19:01,789 cameras. 9083 03:19:01,789 --> 03:19:02,590 They um do well for a city. 9084 03:19:02,590 --> 03:19:03,826 They do well for. 9085 03:19:03,826 --> 03:19:06,610 Crime reduction because that's 9086 03:19:06,610 --> 03:19:07,329 more eyes and ears um in 9087 03:19:07,329 --> 03:19:09,980 various places and that's why 9088 03:19:09,980 --> 03:19:10,699 we have been asking with our 9089 03:19:10,699 --> 03:19:12,334 fuzes or our connect charlotte 9090 03:19:12,334 --> 03:19:12,801 to have more cameras connected. 9091 03:19:12,801 --> 03:19:13,669 >> I think. 9092 03:19:13,669 --> 03:19:14,970 We've been able we have 9093 03:19:14,970 --> 03:19:16,705 examples where we have solved 9094 03:19:16,705 --> 03:19:17,839 crime as a result of having 9095 03:19:17,839 --> 03:19:19,875 those cameras in place. 9096 03:19:19,875 --> 03:19:21,610 Um we do not have flock cameras 9097 03:19:21,610 --> 03:19:23,212 for a reason, but having access 9098 03:19:23,212 --> 03:19:24,647 to that data does help us to 9099 03:19:24,647 --> 03:19:25,815 determine where crime is 9100 03:19:25,815 --> 03:19:26,282 occurring and who's responsible 9101 03:19:26,282 --> 03:19:26,782 for that crime. 9102 03:19:26,782 --> 03:19:27,160 >> when. 9103 03:19:27,160 --> 03:19:27,349 We can. 9104 03:19:27,349 --> 03:19:27,817 >> put. 9105 03:19:27,817 --> 03:19:28,851 The pieces together. 9106 03:19:28,851 --> 03:19:29,818 So if this grant. 9107 03:19:29,818 --> 03:19:30,252 >> were awarded. 9108 03:19:30,252 --> 03:19:30,519 >> would. 9109 03:19:30,519 --> 03:19:31,860 There be. 9110 03:19:31,860 --> 03:19:31,420 >> an expansion. 9111 03:19:31,420 --> 03:19:31,887 >> in. 9112 03:19:31,887 --> 03:19:32,988 Your mind. 9113 03:19:32,988 --> 03:19:34,456 Of our. 9114 03:19:34,456 --> 03:19:35,791 Alpr technology? 9115 03:19:35,791 --> 03:19:37,826 We would probably use some. 9116 03:19:37,826 --> 03:19:40,697 For it because there is value 9117 03:19:40,697 --> 03:19:41,497 in our um lpr but we are 9118 03:19:41,497 --> 03:19:42,432 wanting to use. 9119 03:19:42,432 --> 03:19:44,133 Um specifically. 9120 03:19:44,133 --> 03:19:44,367 To for our evidence management 9121 03:19:44,367 --> 03:19:45,340 system. 9122 03:19:45,340 --> 03:19:47,340 >> to expand. 9123 03:19:47,690 --> 03:19:48,370 It for our camera camera 9124 03:19:48,370 --> 03:19:49,400 trailers so that we can do 9125 03:19:49,400 --> 03:19:51,400 speed enforcement. 9126 03:19:51,340 --> 03:19:52,474 Our consolidated cad which is 9127 03:19:52,474 --> 03:19:53,609 with our fire department that 9128 03:19:53,609 --> 03:19:53,942 is something they have asked 9129 03:19:53,942 --> 03:19:55,430 for. 9130 03:19:55,430 --> 03:19:55,411 That's the technology that. 9131 03:19:55,411 --> 03:19:56,440 >> we're. 9132 03:19:56,440 --> 03:19:58,440 Seeking with these. 9133 03:19:58,810 --> 03:19:59,516 Dollars also to evidence 9134 03:19:59,516 --> 03:19:59,682 sharing platforms so that we 9135 03:19:59,682 --> 03:20:00,416 can. 9136 03:20:00,416 --> 03:20:00,883 Move cases along. 9137 03:20:00,883 --> 03:20:01,818 With the. 9138 03:20:01,818 --> 03:20:03,860 District attorney's. 9139 03:20:03,860 --> 03:20:03,886 Office and with our other law 9140 03:20:03,886 --> 03:20:05,886 enforcement partners. 9141 03:20:05,922 --> 03:20:07,356 These are some of the areas we 9142 03:20:07,356 --> 03:20:07,557 want to make the investments in 9143 03:20:07,557 --> 03:20:09,557 the. 9144 03:20:09,558 --> 03:20:11,160 Technology also to our cyber 9145 03:20:11,160 --> 03:20:12,461 crime unit, our internet 9146 03:20:12,461 --> 03:20:13,730 platform because we have so 9147 03:20:13,730 --> 03:20:15,332 much data that's always coming 9148 03:20:15,332 --> 03:20:16,433 in from phones as they store 9149 03:20:16,433 --> 03:20:16,766 more information we. 9150 03:20:16,766 --> 03:20:17,000 >> need. 9151 03:20:17,000 --> 03:20:17,400 to. 9152 03:20:17,400 --> 03:20:18,735 Be able. 9153 03:20:18,735 --> 03:20:19,669 >> when we see that as evidence 9154 03:20:19,669 --> 03:20:20,360 to be able to get that 9155 03:20:20,360 --> 03:20:21,571 information. 9156 03:20:21,571 --> 03:20:22,872 So these are the these are 9157 03:20:22,872 --> 03:20:24,740 things that we have in place. 9158 03:20:24,740 --> 03:20:25,740 We want to expand them as our 9159 03:20:25,740 --> 03:20:27,740 city is. 9160 03:20:27,276 --> 03:20:28,711 Growing resources are moving 9161 03:20:28,711 --> 03:20:30,790 faster and the fact. 9162 03:20:30,790 --> 03:20:30,579 That we can't keep. 9163 03:20:30,579 --> 03:20:31,682 >> up. 9164 03:20:31,682 --> 03:20:32,916 With it as it is. 9165 03:20:32,916 --> 03:20:33,550 So in. 9166 03:20:33,550 --> 03:20:33,984 This grant we. 9167 03:20:33,984 --> 03:20:34,885 >> were. 9168 03:20:34,885 --> 03:20:35,552 Awarded dollars we'd want to 9169 03:20:35,552 --> 03:20:35,852 use them in. 9170 03:20:35,852 --> 03:20:36,586 Those areas. 9171 03:20:36,586 --> 03:20:37,420 >> of technology. 9172 03:20:37,420 --> 03:20:38,210 >> and there's others. 9173 03:20:38,210 --> 03:20:39,890 >> as well. 9174 03:20:39,890 --> 03:20:39,356 I don't know if kelly wants to 9175 03:20:39,356 --> 03:20:39,689 chime in. 9176 03:20:39,689 --> 03:20:41,157 >> but. 9177 03:20:41,157 --> 03:20:41,491 These are the main ones that I 9178 03:20:41,491 --> 03:20:43,360 know you. 9179 03:20:43,360 --> 03:20:43,560 Okay with with respect chief 9180 03:20:43,560 --> 03:20:44,494 and. 9181 03:20:44,494 --> 03:20:45,428 I really don't want to. 9182 03:20:45,428 --> 03:20:46,396 Substitute my. 9183 03:20:46,396 --> 03:20:46,963 My judgment. 9184 03:20:46,963 --> 03:20:47,530 >> for yours. 9185 03:20:47,530 --> 03:20:48,999 I'll simply say. 9186 03:20:48,999 --> 03:20:50,367 That I'm I'm elevating. 9187 03:20:50,367 --> 03:20:51,100 >> the concerns of our citizens 9188 03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:51,935 who feel as. 9189 03:20:51,935 --> 03:20:53,503 Though there are a lot. 9190 03:20:53,503 --> 03:20:53,971 Of potential. 9191 03:20:53,971 --> 03:20:55,971 Um. 9192 03:20:56,640 --> 03:20:57,908 >> downfalls to an increased 9193 03:20:57,908 --> 03:20:59,900 reliance, particularly. 9194 03:20:59,900 --> 03:21:00,100 Around any. 9195 03:21:00,100 --> 03:21:00,911 >> sort of predictive 9196 03:21:00,911 --> 03:21:01,845 analytics, particularly. 9197 03:21:01,845 --> 03:21:03,580 Around the. 9198 03:21:03,580 --> 03:21:04,981 Retention of. 9199 03:21:04,981 --> 03:21:06,684 Otherwise law. 9200 03:21:06,684 --> 03:21:06,917 Abiding citizens comings and 9201 03:21:06,917 --> 03:21:07,518 goings. 9202 03:21:07,518 --> 03:21:09,518 And the. 9203 03:21:09,553 --> 03:21:10,254 Ability of folks who do. 9204 03:21:10,254 --> 03:21:11,955 Not need to have. 9205 03:21:11,955 --> 03:21:13,570 Access to that data to. 9206 03:21:13,570 --> 03:21:14,458 Continue to access it. 9207 03:21:14,458 --> 03:21:14,925 So I would not be. 9208 03:21:14,925 --> 03:21:16,260 >> in. 9209 03:21:16,260 --> 03:21:16,560 Favor of anything. 9210 03:21:16,560 --> 03:21:17,961 >> that would. 9211 03:21:17,961 --> 03:21:19,620 Increase that. 9212 03:21:19,620 --> 03:21:20,931 Spend on technology. 9213 03:21:20,931 --> 03:21:21,498 Some of the other aspects. 9214 03:21:21,498 --> 03:21:21,998 >> you know. 9215 03:21:21,998 --> 03:21:22,499 Particularly around. 9216 03:21:22,499 --> 03:21:23,660 >> mental. 9217 03:21:23,660 --> 03:21:23,601 Health if you were. 9218 03:21:23,601 --> 03:21:24,335 >> to. 9219 03:21:24,335 --> 03:21:24,936 Advance a mental health. 9220 03:21:24,936 --> 03:21:26,337 Program. 9221 03:21:26,337 --> 03:21:27,471 >> I would be very hard pressed 9222 03:21:27,471 --> 03:21:27,939 to say that I would. 9223 03:21:27,939 --> 03:21:29,400 >> not. 9224 03:21:29,400 --> 03:21:30,441 Delight in having. 9225 03:21:30,441 --> 03:21:30,841 75 million. 9226 03:21:30,841 --> 03:21:31,800 >> or. 9227 03:21:31,800 --> 03:21:31,842 150. 9228 03:21:31,842 --> 03:21:32,743 Million to put into mental 9229 03:21:32,743 --> 03:21:33,978 health and some of the other. 9230 03:21:33,978 --> 03:21:35,790 Aspects of. 9231 03:21:35,790 --> 03:21:35,846 Quality community policing. 9232 03:21:35,846 --> 03:21:37,581 Um. 9233 03:21:37,581 --> 03:21:38,515 >> I'll I'll end simply by. 9234 03:21:38,515 --> 03:21:38,982 Saying that. 9235 03:21:38,982 --> 03:21:39,382 One of. 9236 03:21:39,382 --> 03:21:40,170 >> my. 9237 03:21:40,170 --> 03:21:40,284 Concerns with this and. 9238 03:21:40,284 --> 03:21:41,486 I tried. 9239 03:21:41,486 --> 03:21:42,420 >> to articulate this. 9240 03:21:42,420 --> 03:21:43,821 Earlier but. 9241 03:21:43,821 --> 03:21:46,190 I hear you say that you 9242 03:21:46,190 --> 03:21:46,691 wouldn't accept it but 9243 03:21:46,691 --> 03:21:47,492 acceptance of this. 9244 03:21:47,492 --> 03:21:47,959 Grant feels. 9245 03:21:47,959 --> 03:21:48,726 To me. 9246 03:21:48,726 --> 03:21:49,193 >> that it would. 9247 03:21:49,193 --> 03:21:49,994 Put the. 9248 03:21:49,994 --> 03:21:50,461 Potential for a real. 9249 03:21:50,461 --> 03:21:52,330 Target on. 9250 03:21:52,330 --> 03:21:52,663 Charlotte if we were to decide 9251 03:21:52,663 --> 03:21:53,931 later on. 9252 03:21:53,931 --> 03:21:54,999 Not to accept it. 9253 03:21:54,999 --> 03:21:55,966 After applying. 9254 03:21:55,966 --> 03:21:56,901 I fear. 9255 03:21:56,901 --> 03:21:57,668 That that. 9256 03:21:57,668 --> 03:21:58,903 Would make us. 9257 03:21:58,903 --> 03:22:00,903 Appear to. 9258 03:22:00,972 --> 03:22:01,573 Be a scofflaw. 9259 03:22:01,573 --> 03:22:03,573 Of of. 9260 03:22:04,709 --> 03:22:05,810 Violent crime prevention um 9261 03:22:05,810 --> 03:22:06,477 strategies and that is nothing 9262 03:22:06,477 --> 03:22:07,780 could be further. 9263 03:22:07,780 --> 03:22:07,645 From the truth. 9264 03:22:07,645 --> 03:22:09,460 None of us. 9265 03:22:09,460 --> 03:22:09,847 Wants to see an increase in. 9266 03:22:09,847 --> 03:22:11,716 Violent crime. 9267 03:22:11,716 --> 03:22:12,517 And all of us want to enable 9268 03:22:12,517 --> 03:22:14,917 you to do that. 9269 03:22:15,190 --> 03:22:15,720 My my my concern. 9270 03:22:15,720 --> 03:22:17,622 >> though is that. 9271 03:22:17,622 --> 03:22:19,191 Enabling you to seek this grant 9272 03:22:19,191 --> 03:22:21,259 that we set ourselves up for 9273 03:22:21,259 --> 03:22:22,861 some some tentacles that we're 9274 03:22:22,861 --> 03:22:23,270 just not fully appreciative of 9275 03:22:23,270 --> 03:22:24,129 . 9276 03:22:24,129 --> 03:22:25,630 So I um. 9277 03:22:25,630 --> 03:22:26,631 I'm cautiously. 9278 03:22:26,631 --> 03:22:28,866 Optimistic that we can get to a 9279 03:22:28,866 --> 03:22:29,330 better spot on this but thank 9280 03:22:29,330 --> 03:22:29,734 you. 9281 03:22:29,734 --> 03:22:31,936 >> thank you council member. 9282 03:22:31,936 --> 03:22:33,972 O and um, council. 9283 03:22:33,972 --> 03:22:35,730 Member um driggs. 9284 03:22:35,730 --> 03:22:35,307 >> and then council member 9285 03:22:35,307 --> 03:22:36,508 johnson. 9286 03:22:36,508 --> 03:22:36,975 Thank you. 9287 03:22:36,975 --> 03:22:38,677 Mayor. 9288 03:22:38,677 --> 03:22:39,811 Uh, it's interesting to me that 9289 03:22:39,811 --> 03:22:41,246 this conversation is actually 9290 03:22:41,246 --> 03:22:41,780 quite different from the one we 9291 03:22:41,780 --> 03:22:42,514 had in committee. 9292 03:22:42,514 --> 03:22:44,514 Um. 9293 03:22:45,183 --> 03:22:45,383 My initial impression was, uh 9294 03:22:45,383 --> 03:22:46,618 wow. 9295 03:22:46,618 --> 03:22:48,219 You know, an opportunity to 9296 03:22:48,219 --> 03:22:50,288 make a huge investment in 9297 03:22:50,288 --> 03:22:50,622 safety at no cost to local 9298 03:22:50,622 --> 03:22:51,557 taxpayers. 9299 03:22:51,557 --> 03:22:52,958 Sounds great. 9300 03:22:52,958 --> 03:22:53,893 Um. 9301 03:22:53,893 --> 03:22:55,893 >> but, uh. 9302 03:22:56,395 --> 03:22:56,762 There are strings attached in 9303 03:22:56,762 --> 03:22:57,529 the way. 9304 03:22:57,529 --> 03:22:58,463 They presented. 9305 03:22:58,463 --> 03:22:58,931 So. 9306 03:22:58,931 --> 03:23:00,265 Uh. 9307 03:23:00,265 --> 03:23:01,533 >> chief, I guess what I would 9308 03:23:01,533 --> 03:23:01,700 say to you is I still hope that 9309 03:23:01,700 --> 03:23:02,340 we. 9310 03:23:02,340 --> 03:23:02,968 >> can. 9311 03:23:02,968 --> 03:23:04,200 Get the benefit. 9312 03:23:04,200 --> 03:23:05,337 Of an improvement. 9313 03:23:05,337 --> 03:23:06,438 >> in safety and no cost to 9314 03:23:06,438 --> 03:23:07,539 local taxpayers. 9315 03:23:07,539 --> 03:23:08,600 Uh, but I think. 9316 03:23:08,600 --> 03:23:09,408 What you're. 9317 03:23:09,408 --> 03:23:09,842 >> hearing here is that we. 9318 03:23:09,842 --> 03:23:11,842 >> have. 9319 03:23:12,311 --> 03:23:13,879 Our strings to, uh. 9320 03:23:13,879 --> 03:23:14,947 And so, uh, the. 9321 03:23:14,947 --> 03:23:15,447 Question to you then. 9322 03:23:15,447 --> 03:23:16,150 As you. 9323 03:23:16,150 --> 03:23:16,382 >> listen to. 9324 03:23:16,382 --> 03:23:16,715 >> what. 9325 03:23:16,715 --> 03:23:18,550 You're being. 9326 03:23:18,550 --> 03:23:19,485 >> told is, uh, I do you. 9327 03:23:19,485 --> 03:23:21,485 Remain confident. 9328 03:23:22,321 --> 03:23:23,422 That you can uphold the, uh, 9329 03:23:23,422 --> 03:23:25,422 values of charlotte. 9330 03:23:26,259 --> 03:23:27,527 And push back against 9331 03:23:27,527 --> 03:23:29,595 interference in our conduct of 9332 03:23:29,595 --> 03:23:29,929 our affairs if we accept this 9333 03:23:29,929 --> 03:23:30,863 money? 9334 03:23:30,863 --> 03:23:32,863 Um. 9335 03:23:33,833 --> 03:23:34,967 >> so, uh, I hope that we won't 9336 03:23:34,967 --> 03:23:36,369 kill this now. 9337 03:23:36,369 --> 03:23:38,571 I hope that we will. 9338 03:23:38,571 --> 03:23:41,206 Uh that we will continue to. 9339 03:23:41,206 --> 03:23:42,641 Explore this and, uh, that we 9340 03:23:42,641 --> 03:23:44,244 will potentially get the 9341 03:23:44,244 --> 03:23:46,145 benefit if successful which is 9342 03:23:46,145 --> 03:23:48,681 not assured but that uh that we 9343 03:23:48,681 --> 03:23:50,450 will uh hopefully get the 9344 03:23:50,450 --> 03:23:51,384 benefit of uh. 9345 03:23:51,384 --> 03:23:52,785 Uh. 9346 03:23:52,785 --> 03:23:53,119 ,investments that really 9347 03:23:53,119 --> 03:23:54,530 further. 9348 03:23:54,530 --> 03:23:55,455 Your purpose. 9349 03:23:55,455 --> 03:23:55,922 And align with what. 9350 03:23:55,922 --> 03:23:56,388 We want. 9351 03:23:56,388 --> 03:23:57,957 . 9352 03:23:57,957 --> 03:23:59,525 >> and so and. 9353 03:23:59,525 --> 03:24:01,127 For now I guess I would just 9354 03:24:01,127 --> 03:24:02,729 say to you, uh, I hope for you 9355 03:24:02,729 --> 03:24:03,830 taking away from this is the 9356 03:24:03,830 --> 03:24:05,899 fact that you need to look 9357 03:24:05,899 --> 03:24:07,333 harder at what you know, what 9358 03:24:07,333 --> 03:24:07,534 they expect to get out of this 9359 03:24:07,534 --> 03:24:09,534 . 9360 03:24:10,203 --> 03:24:12,105 Uh, I would express a personal 9361 03:24:12,105 --> 03:24:12,438 concern that this gets 9362 03:24:12,438 --> 03:24:13,373 political. 9363 03:24:13,373 --> 03:24:14,400 Uh. 9364 03:24:14,400 --> 03:24:15,341 >> given that. 9365 03:24:15,341 --> 03:24:15,675 >> it's coming from the federal 9366 03:24:15,675 --> 03:24:17,675 government. 9367 03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:18,512 Um, and so I wouldn't want us 9368 03:24:18,512 --> 03:24:19,913 to get drawn. 9369 03:24:19,913 --> 03:24:20,848 Into any. 9370 03:24:20,848 --> 03:24:22,416 Sort of, um. 9371 03:24:22,416 --> 03:24:24,251 Uh. 9372 03:24:24,251 --> 03:24:26,152 >> representation of this grant 9373 03:24:26,152 --> 03:24:28,688 and of the partners in this 9374 03:24:28,688 --> 03:24:29,489 grant by uh, anybody at the 9375 03:24:29,489 --> 03:24:31,489 federal level. 9376 03:24:31,858 --> 03:24:32,250 I do have one question about 9377 03:24:32,250 --> 03:24:32,492 the. 9378 03:24:32,492 --> 03:24:34,492 Funding thing. 9379 03:24:34,694 --> 03:24:35,662 Uh, given the nature of the 9380 03:24:35,662 --> 03:24:37,970 investments that are allowed 9381 03:24:37,970 --> 03:24:37,965 here assuming we got this. 9382 03:24:37,965 --> 03:24:39,666 Is it. 9383 03:24:39,666 --> 03:24:40,330 >> possible that we could make 9384 03:24:40,330 --> 03:24:42,330 substantial. 9385 03:24:42,836 --> 03:24:44,271 Investments in in uh in capital 9386 03:24:44,271 --> 03:24:44,938 goods technology and things 9387 03:24:44,938 --> 03:24:46,600 like that. 9388 03:24:46,600 --> 03:24:46,473 During the three. 9389 03:24:46,473 --> 03:24:47,400 Years and. 9390 03:24:47,400 --> 03:24:48,908 >> then. 9391 03:24:48,908 --> 03:24:49,109 Actually have a reduced rate, 9392 03:24:49,109 --> 03:24:50,510 a. 9393 03:24:50,510 --> 03:24:51,444 Reduced need for. 9394 03:24:51,444 --> 03:24:53,647 Additional funding after the 9395 03:24:53,647 --> 03:24:54,482 three years just to sustain 9396 03:24:54,482 --> 03:24:55,883 those operations. 9397 03:24:55,883 --> 03:24:57,451 So uh. 9398 03:24:57,451 --> 03:24:58,519 If there is. 9399 03:24:58,519 --> 03:25:00,421 >> a way if if this is 9400 03:25:00,421 --> 03:25:01,722 something we want to do, can we 9401 03:25:01,722 --> 03:25:03,323 kind of front loaded in such a 9402 03:25:03,323 --> 03:25:03,991 way that the the need that we 9403 03:25:03,991 --> 03:25:05,580 have doesn't. 9404 03:25:05,580 --> 03:25:06,627 >> have to equal. 9405 03:25:06,627 --> 03:25:08,610 The amount of the grant but 9406 03:25:08,610 --> 03:25:08,395 that we could continue making 9407 03:25:08,395 --> 03:25:09,290 that the. 9408 03:25:09,290 --> 03:25:11,290 Grant funded. 9409 03:25:11,399 --> 03:25:12,330 Uh at a lower continuing 9410 03:25:12,330 --> 03:25:13,434 operating cost. 9411 03:25:13,434 --> 03:25:14,402 So I'd be interested to know 9412 03:25:14,402 --> 03:25:16,170 the answer to that because 9413 03:25:16,170 --> 03:25:17,738 there is definitely a concern 9414 03:25:17,738 --> 03:25:17,939 about the budget impact in year 9415 03:25:17,939 --> 03:25:19,939 for. 9416 03:25:19,974 --> 03:25:20,741 Sure and that and that is fair. 9417 03:25:20,741 --> 03:25:22,309 Thank you for that. 9418 03:25:22,309 --> 03:25:23,577 I would say that oftentimes we 9419 03:25:23,577 --> 03:25:24,878 find that the start up of 9420 03:25:24,878 --> 03:25:26,780 something is more substantial 9421 03:25:26,780 --> 03:25:27,800 or more expensive than to 9422 03:25:27,800 --> 03:25:28,148 maintain it. 9423 03:25:28,148 --> 03:25:28,650 So that would be something we 9424 03:25:28,650 --> 03:25:30,510 would look at. 9425 03:25:30,510 --> 03:25:31,953 And I do want to just address 9426 03:25:31,953 --> 03:25:32,920 your first point, which I have 9427 03:25:32,920 --> 03:25:33,554 to say I'm deeply. 9428 03:25:33,554 --> 03:25:34,210 Appreciative of. 9429 03:25:34,210 --> 03:25:34,956 >> all. 9430 03:25:34,956 --> 03:25:36,390 The concerns that have been 9431 03:25:36,390 --> 03:25:37,358 expressed everything that your 9432 03:25:37,358 --> 03:25:38,225 each council member has. 9433 03:25:38,225 --> 03:25:39,927 >> brought to light. 9434 03:25:39,927 --> 03:25:41,228 These are things that um will 9435 03:25:41,228 --> 03:25:42,663 weigh on us and I want to make 9436 03:25:42,663 --> 03:25:43,164 sure that we are being 9437 03:25:43,164 --> 03:25:44,565 responsible with any. 9438 03:25:44,565 --> 03:25:46,134 Decisions that we make. 9439 03:25:46,134 --> 03:25:46,467 But I just stand firm on my 9440 03:25:46,467 --> 03:25:47,402 position. 9441 03:25:47,402 --> 03:25:47,736 That I would not. 9442 03:25:47,736 --> 03:25:48,360 >> put. 9443 03:25:48,360 --> 03:25:48,503 Our. 9444 03:25:48,503 --> 03:25:50,503 City in. 9445 03:25:50,839 --> 03:25:52,740 Jeopardy or our county and that 9446 03:25:52,740 --> 03:25:54,175 we would bring everything to 9447 03:25:54,175 --> 03:25:56,244 you in writing as we are able 9448 03:25:56,244 --> 03:25:57,378 to really get these answers out 9449 03:25:57,378 --> 03:25:57,578 and if we are not in agreement 9450 03:25:57,578 --> 03:25:58,179 with. 9451 03:25:58,179 --> 03:25:58,980 it we would. 9452 03:25:58,980 --> 03:26:00,470 >> not move forward. 9453 03:26:00,470 --> 03:26:01,148 And I want to tell you. 9454 03:26:01,148 --> 03:26:01,649 Personally that I would be. 9455 03:26:01,649 --> 03:26:02,650 Very inclined. 9456 03:26:02,650 --> 03:26:04,520 >> to back you up. 9457 03:26:04,520 --> 03:26:06,221 On your uh on the outcome. 9458 03:26:06,221 --> 03:26:06,588 Uh, we just heard some things 9459 03:26:06,588 --> 03:26:07,880 here. 9460 03:26:07,880 --> 03:26:08,457 >> that do. 9461 03:26:08,457 --> 03:26:09,900 Require further thought. 9462 03:26:09,900 --> 03:26:10,492 Thank you sir. 9463 03:26:10,492 --> 03:26:12,600 Councilmember johnson. 9464 03:26:12,600 --> 03:26:13,461 Thank you MR. Mayor. 9465 03:26:13,461 --> 03:26:13,928 You know when a person. 9466 03:26:13,928 --> 03:26:15,330 Shows you. 9467 03:26:15,330 --> 03:26:16,297 >> who they are the first time 9468 03:26:16,297 --> 03:26:17,640 you have to believe them. 9469 03:26:17,640 --> 03:26:18,466 So we. 9470 03:26:18,466 --> 03:26:18,967 >> know that. 9471 03:26:18,967 --> 03:26:20,967 A trump. 9472 03:26:21,300 --> 03:26:22,700 Bill that. 9473 03:26:22,700 --> 03:26:23,500 >> says make cities. 9474 03:26:23,500 --> 03:26:23,171 Great again. 9475 03:26:23,171 --> 03:26:23,672 . 9476 03:26:23,672 --> 03:26:24,573 >> what that. 9477 03:26:24,573 --> 03:26:25,474 Make a. 9478 03:26:25,474 --> 03:26:26,408 >> man made. 9479 03:26:26,408 --> 03:26:27,976 Yeah what. 9480 03:26:27,976 --> 03:26:28,276 That entails. 9481 03:26:28,276 --> 03:26:30,110 And then. 9482 03:26:30,110 --> 03:26:31,413 >> todd blanch is the. 9483 03:26:31,413 --> 03:26:31,880 The attorney general. 9484 03:26:31,880 --> 03:26:32,981 >> I. 9485 03:26:32,981 --> 03:26:34,849 Mean the. 9486 03:26:34,849 --> 03:26:35,617 The grant specifically or. 9487 03:26:35,617 --> 03:26:37,617 >> it says. 9488 03:26:38,119 --> 03:26:39,622 That we have to comply with. 9489 03:26:39,622 --> 03:26:41,560 Different federal regulations. 9490 03:26:41,560 --> 03:26:42,124 One of the things the. 9491 03:26:42,124 --> 03:26:43,580 >> city attorney said there's. 9492 03:26:43,580 --> 03:26:45,580 No affirmative. 9493 03:26:45,861 --> 03:26:47,262 Duty to do what to report to. 9494 03:26:47,262 --> 03:26:48,363 . 9495 03:26:48,363 --> 03:26:49,464 Um where is she. 9496 03:26:49,464 --> 03:26:51,464 Like report. 9497 03:26:51,500 --> 03:26:52,330 To ice. 9498 03:26:52,330 --> 03:26:52,334 Is that it? 9499 03:26:52,334 --> 03:26:54,334 Is it. 9500 03:26:54,369 --> 03:26:55,504 >> there's no affirmative duty 9501 03:26:55,504 --> 03:26:55,938 or obligation for. 9502 03:26:55,938 --> 03:26:57,938 >> the. 9503 03:26:58,374 --> 03:26:59,410 City to share information with. 9504 03:26:59,410 --> 03:27:00,420 Ice or federal. 9505 03:27:00,420 --> 03:27:00,543 Immigration based on. 9506 03:27:00,543 --> 03:27:01,477 >> the. 9507 03:27:01,477 --> 03:27:02,545 Application or acceptance. 9508 03:27:02,545 --> 03:27:03,120 Of is there a. 9509 03:27:03,120 --> 03:27:05,120 Response? 9510 03:27:05,481 --> 03:27:06,150 I'm sorry. 9511 03:27:06,150 --> 03:27:06,482 Can you repeat. 9512 03:27:06,482 --> 03:27:07,820 >> that a. 9513 03:27:07,820 --> 03:27:07,983 Responsive duty there's. 9514 03:27:07,983 --> 03:27:08,550 No affirmative duty. 9515 03:27:08,550 --> 03:27:09,510 >> but is. 9516 03:27:09,510 --> 03:27:09,418 There do we know. 9517 03:27:09,418 --> 03:27:09,785 >> if. 9518 03:27:09,785 --> 03:27:10,419 There's any. 9519 03:27:10,419 --> 03:27:11,520 Duty to. 9520 03:27:11,520 --> 03:27:13,520 >> report the information? 9521 03:27:13,690 --> 03:27:14,724 So as part of these. 9522 03:27:14,724 --> 03:27:15,580 Federal grants there could be 9523 03:27:15,580 --> 03:27:17,580 clauses. 9524 03:27:17,393 --> 03:27:17,994 That state if requested cmpd. 9525 03:27:17,994 --> 03:27:18,728 >> of the. 9526 03:27:18,728 --> 03:27:18,895 City of charlotte would have 9527 03:27:18,895 --> 03:27:20,563 to. 9528 03:27:20,563 --> 03:27:21,397 Cooperate with federal 9529 03:27:21,397 --> 03:27:21,998 immigration entities. 9530 03:27:21,998 --> 03:27:22,598 Um. 9531 03:27:22,598 --> 03:27:23,966 >> there's no. 9532 03:27:23,966 --> 03:27:25,670 >> details on what that. 9533 03:27:25,670 --> 03:27:27,670 Cooperation looks. 9534 03:27:27,169 --> 03:27:27,937 >> like as the application is. 9535 03:27:27,937 --> 03:27:28,704 Drafted currently. 9536 03:27:28,704 --> 03:27:29,138 The city would. 9537 03:27:29,138 --> 03:27:29,972 Not have to. 9538 03:27:29,972 --> 03:27:30,439 >> change any of. 9539 03:27:30,439 --> 03:27:32,800 >> its. 9540 03:27:32,800 --> 03:27:33,476 Current policies. 9541 03:27:33,476 --> 03:27:34,978 Regarding immigration. 9542 03:27:34,978 --> 03:27:35,378 And ice that we currently. 9543 03:27:35,378 --> 03:27:35,812 >> have. 9544 03:27:35,812 --> 03:27:36,790 In place. 9545 03:27:36,790 --> 03:27:37,614 Um. 9546 03:27:37,614 --> 03:27:37,980 What that means is that right 9547 03:27:37,980 --> 03:27:38,381 now. 9548 03:27:38,381 --> 03:27:39,382 >> we do. 9549 03:27:39,382 --> 03:27:41,250 >> not have any city. 9550 03:27:41,250 --> 03:27:41,451 Policies that require employees 9551 03:27:41,451 --> 03:27:42,850 . 9552 03:27:42,850 --> 03:27:42,985 To violate. 9553 03:27:42,985 --> 03:27:43,686 Federal law. 9554 03:27:43,686 --> 03:27:44,954 >> and you could. 9555 03:27:44,954 --> 03:27:46,550 >> keep that the same. 9556 03:27:46,550 --> 03:27:47,757 I my. 9557 03:27:47,757 --> 03:27:48,900 Colleagues have made some great 9558 03:27:48,900 --> 03:27:48,591 points. 9559 03:27:48,591 --> 03:27:49,993 I agree. 9560 03:27:49,993 --> 03:27:50,927 With council member. 9561 03:27:50,927 --> 03:27:51,561 Owens if we. 9562 03:27:51,561 --> 03:27:53,561 It's only there's. 9563 03:27:54,197 --> 03:27:54,531 Only 2 or 4 cities in the whole 9564 03:27:54,531 --> 03:27:55,398 nation. 9565 03:27:55,398 --> 03:27:56,499 That are going to be. 9566 03:27:56,499 --> 03:27:57,667 Awarded this if we. 9567 03:27:57,667 --> 03:28:00,667 >> get this grant and then. 9568 03:28:01,104 --> 03:28:02,939 Rescind again right or within 9569 03:28:02,939 --> 03:28:03,573 that's going to be problematic. 9570 03:28:03,573 --> 03:28:04,440 And I think we. 9571 03:28:04,440 --> 03:28:06,900 >> as a council. 9572 03:28:06,900 --> 03:28:07,244 Have to learn lessons. 9573 03:28:07,244 --> 03:28:08,979 From some of the decisions 9574 03:28:08,979 --> 03:28:10,480 we've already made without. 9575 03:28:10,480 --> 03:28:11,948 Enough information. 9576 03:28:11,948 --> 03:28:13,490 >> let's think data centers. 9577 03:28:13,490 --> 03:28:14,918 I have. 9578 03:28:14,918 --> 03:28:15,118 >> a two point 5,000,000 square 9579 03:28:15,118 --> 03:28:16,820 foot. 9580 03:28:16,820 --> 03:28:17,821 Data center in the university 9581 03:28:17,821 --> 03:28:19,189 area because. 9582 03:28:19,189 --> 03:28:19,422 >> we made a decision without 9583 03:28:19,422 --> 03:28:21,422 enough. 9584 03:28:21,891 --> 03:28:23,494 Information I 77 we're looking 9585 03:28:23,494 --> 03:28:24,895 at a $64 million. 9586 03:28:24,895 --> 03:28:25,696 Penalty because. 9587 03:28:25,696 --> 03:28:27,696 >> we have information. 9588 03:28:27,731 --> 03:28:28,650 >> we listen to our our 9589 03:28:28,650 --> 03:28:29,466 constituents. 9590 03:28:29,466 --> 03:28:30,200 And uh. 9591 03:28:30,200 --> 03:28:30,501 >> it's a problem when. 9592 03:28:30,501 --> 03:28:30,834 >> we. 9593 03:28:30,834 --> 03:28:32,834 Do that. 9594 03:28:33,136 --> 03:28:33,470 We've received hundreds of 9595 03:28:33,470 --> 03:28:33,837 emails. 9596 03:28:33,837 --> 03:28:34,738 >> just. 9597 03:28:34,738 --> 03:28:34,972 Since we've been sitting here 9598 03:28:34,972 --> 03:28:35,539 tonight. 9599 03:28:35,539 --> 03:28:36,390 So I think. 9600 03:28:36,390 --> 03:28:36,506 >> that we. 9601 03:28:36,506 --> 03:28:37,740 have learned. 9602 03:28:37,740 --> 03:28:37,641 >> the lesson and. 9603 03:28:37,641 --> 03:28:39,641 >> I won't. 9604 03:28:39,909 --> 03:28:40,343 Say bank of america where. 9605 03:28:40,343 --> 03:28:40,645 >> it's. 9606 03:28:40,645 --> 03:28:41,120 Listed as. 9607 03:28:41,120 --> 03:28:42,313 >> one of. 9608 03:28:42,313 --> 03:28:42,446 The worst economic development 9609 03:28:42,446 --> 03:28:44,446 . 9610 03:28:45,583 --> 03:28:47,170 Deals in 2024 where we made the 9611 03:28:47,170 --> 03:28:47,484 decision without details. 9612 03:28:47,484 --> 03:28:49,484 So council. 9613 03:28:51,688 --> 03:28:52,550 We have to learn from our past 9614 03:28:52,550 --> 03:28:53,457 mistakes. 9615 03:28:53,457 --> 03:28:54,525 And so I. 9616 03:28:54,525 --> 03:28:55,192 >> won't be supporting this. 9617 03:28:55,192 --> 03:28:55,492 >> it seems. 9618 03:28:55,492 --> 03:28:56,894 Like we. 9619 03:28:56,894 --> 03:28:58,129 >> have six. 9620 03:28:58,129 --> 03:28:58,629 Council members that are 9621 03:28:58,629 --> 03:29:00,300 prepared today. 9622 03:29:00,300 --> 03:29:02,430 Not to move forward. 9623 03:29:02,567 --> 03:29:03,968 Um so. 9624 03:29:03,968 --> 03:29:04,568 MR. Manager I. 9625 03:29:04,568 --> 03:29:06,137 >> would like. 9626 03:29:06,137 --> 03:29:07,405 To make a motion or. 9627 03:29:07,405 --> 03:29:08,500 No I won't do it. 9628 03:29:08,500 --> 03:29:08,472 Never mind. 9629 03:29:08,472 --> 03:29:08,773 Sorry. 9630 03:29:08,773 --> 03:29:10,274 I think. 9631 03:29:10,274 --> 03:29:10,841 >> he got. 9632 03:29:10,841 --> 03:29:10,975 >> okay. 9633 03:29:10,975 --> 03:29:11,642 . 9634 03:29:11,642 --> 03:29:13,642 >> all right. 9635 03:29:14,611 --> 03:29:16,181 I think that we, uh are we. 9636 03:29:16,181 --> 03:29:19,317 Also we've got two more council 9637 03:29:19,317 --> 03:29:19,651 members who asked to be heard. 9638 03:29:19,651 --> 03:29:20,885 Seriously? 9639 03:29:20,885 --> 03:29:21,986 Obviously serious. 9640 03:29:21,986 --> 03:29:23,554 Questions being raised. 9641 03:29:23,554 --> 03:29:24,489 This is. 9642 03:29:24,489 --> 03:29:24,956 A preview. 9643 03:29:24,956 --> 03:29:26,524 Um. 9644 03:29:26,524 --> 03:29:26,857 >> we'll see where this goes 9645 03:29:26,857 --> 03:29:27,492 from here. 9646 03:29:27,492 --> 03:29:29,193 But. 9647 03:29:29,193 --> 03:29:29,493 >> uh, councilmember. 9648 03:29:29,493 --> 03:29:30,227 Johnson. 9649 03:29:30,227 --> 03:29:31,462 >> are you good? 9650 03:29:31,462 --> 03:29:32,396 Um I'm fine. 9651 03:29:32,396 --> 03:29:32,863 i just again those. 9652 03:29:32,863 --> 03:29:33,732 Three we. 9653 03:29:33,732 --> 03:29:35,300 >> have to think. 9654 03:29:35,300 --> 03:29:35,967 About the decisions we've 9655 03:29:35,967 --> 03:29:37,967 already made. 9656 03:29:37,969 --> 03:29:38,503 And how this applies, how we 9657 03:29:38,503 --> 03:29:40,380 move forward. 9658 03:29:40,380 --> 03:29:42,240 >> and MR. Manager, I really. 9659 03:29:42,240 --> 03:29:43,508 Really would like to change the 9660 03:29:43,508 --> 03:29:45,276 culture where we're not getting 9661 03:29:45,276 --> 03:29:46,144 the information we have the 9662 03:29:46,144 --> 03:29:48,279 answers to our questions. 9663 03:29:48,279 --> 03:29:48,613 Before it's presented to 9664 03:29:48,613 --> 03:29:49,130 council. 9665 03:29:49,130 --> 03:29:49,513 No, I. 9666 03:29:49,513 --> 03:29:51,513 >> think. 9667 03:29:52,117 --> 03:29:52,617 That when is it coming back. 9668 03:29:52,617 --> 03:29:54,617 To council? 9669 03:29:55,253 --> 03:29:55,587 When is this coming back to 9670 03:29:55,587 --> 03:29:56,388 council? 9671 03:29:56,388 --> 03:29:56,988 >> it's not on a. 9672 03:29:56,988 --> 03:29:58,988 Agenda. 9673 03:30:00,592 --> 03:30:01,826 >> thank you, MR. Mayor. 9674 03:30:01,826 --> 03:30:03,294 Uh I think council member 9675 03:30:03,294 --> 03:30:04,862 drakes is right this 9676 03:30:04,862 --> 03:30:06,164 conversation is different from 9677 03:30:06,164 --> 03:30:08,367 the the committee meeting 9678 03:30:08,367 --> 03:30:10,135 because now we have details 9679 03:30:10,135 --> 03:30:12,304 right that we didn't have. 9680 03:30:12,304 --> 03:30:12,571 Two weeks ago and it's called 9681 03:30:12,571 --> 03:30:14,571 research. 9682 03:30:15,307 --> 03:30:17,209 Um uh, that we were not able to 9683 03:30:17,209 --> 03:30:19,110 do when we get when we saw the 9684 03:30:19,110 --> 03:30:21,110 the presentation before. 9685 03:30:21,312 --> 03:30:22,581 Chief patterson, this is not 9686 03:30:22,581 --> 03:30:24,150 about you, right? 9687 03:30:24,150 --> 03:30:24,983 It's not about trust and 9688 03:30:24,983 --> 03:30:26,519 confidence in you. 9689 03:30:26,519 --> 03:30:27,486 It's trust and confidence with 9690 03:30:27,486 --> 03:30:29,486 our federal partners. 9691 03:30:29,855 --> 03:30:31,590 Let's be blunt about it right 9692 03:30:31,590 --> 03:30:33,590 and right. 9693 03:30:34,930 --> 03:30:35,994 Um, and once upon a time cities 9694 03:30:35,994 --> 03:30:36,562 and states with but roll. 9695 03:30:36,562 --> 03:30:38,562 >> over. 9696 03:30:38,897 --> 03:30:40,499 Backwards to do business with 9697 03:30:40,499 --> 03:30:42,400 the federal government because 9698 03:30:42,400 --> 03:30:44,300 they trust a partner they had 9699 03:30:44,300 --> 03:30:46,372 confidence in the partner uh 9700 03:30:46,372 --> 03:30:48,441 they had confidence that is a 9701 03:30:48,441 --> 03:30:48,741 relationship built on trust and 9702 03:30:48,741 --> 03:30:49,875 confidence. 9703 03:30:49,875 --> 03:30:52,244 Uh, what you're hearing today 9704 03:30:52,244 --> 03:30:53,345 is there's still confidence 9705 03:30:53,345 --> 03:30:53,545 that they will keep their word 9706 03:30:53,545 --> 03:30:54,480 . 9707 03:30:54,480 --> 03:30:55,882 Um. 9708 03:30:55,882 --> 03:30:56,715 >> that they will do what they 9709 03:30:56,715 --> 03:30:58,584 said they're going to do. 9710 03:30:58,584 --> 03:30:59,840 I will just make it up as they 9711 03:30:59,840 --> 03:31:00,953 go along. 9712 03:31:00,953 --> 03:31:02,388 And so I think the questions 9713 03:31:02,388 --> 03:31:03,523 that's been asked tonight is 9714 03:31:03,523 --> 03:31:05,391 legitimate for sure. 9715 03:31:05,391 --> 03:31:07,927 The research my colleagues have 9716 03:31:07,927 --> 03:31:09,995 done and I support it in the 9717 03:31:09,995 --> 03:31:10,629 committee and as soon as I got 9718 03:31:10,629 --> 03:31:12,629 to my car. 9719 03:31:13,299 --> 03:31:16,100 Someone called me and said um 9720 03:31:16,100 --> 03:31:18,371 uh proceed with caution, read 9721 03:31:18,371 --> 03:31:18,671 the details and and sent me 9722 03:31:18,671 --> 03:31:20,106 information. 9723 03:31:20,106 --> 03:31:22,308 And so I kind of. 9724 03:31:22,308 --> 03:31:24,430 Kind of got the initial 9725 03:31:24,430 --> 03:31:24,978 presentation. 9726 03:31:24,978 --> 03:31:27,130 All of it is good. 9727 03:31:27,130 --> 03:31:27,980 Council member wanted is pretty 9728 03:31:27,980 --> 03:31:28,615 similar to the. 9729 03:31:28,615 --> 03:31:29,480 >> continuum we. 9730 03:31:29,480 --> 03:31:30,483 >> shouldn't. 9731 03:31:30,483 --> 03:31:31,150 Care we had a year a year ago 9732 03:31:31,150 --> 03:31:31,550 right where. 9733 03:31:31,550 --> 03:31:32,180 >> we. 9734 03:31:32,180 --> 03:31:33,252 Got all. 9735 03:31:33,252 --> 03:31:35,540 >> the agencies working 9736 03:31:35,540 --> 03:31:36,723 together, all the department 9737 03:31:36,723 --> 03:31:38,725 was the city's responsibility, 9738 03:31:38,725 --> 03:31:40,327 the county's responsibility 9739 03:31:40,327 --> 03:31:41,594 mental health, substance abuse 9740 03:31:41,594 --> 03:31:43,496 all good things. 9741 03:31:43,496 --> 03:31:45,832 You know the federal government 9742 03:31:45,832 --> 03:31:46,199 wants to give us $20 million to 9743 03:31:46,199 --> 03:31:46,966 execute it. 9744 03:31:46,966 --> 03:31:48,966 Fine. 9745 03:31:49,469 --> 03:31:52,469 We can we trust them. 9746 03:31:52,605 --> 03:31:54,308 It's a valid question. 9747 03:31:54,308 --> 03:31:54,508 Council member graham thank you 9748 03:31:54,508 --> 03:31:55,275 for. 9749 03:31:55,275 --> 03:31:57,275 >> that perspective. 9750 03:31:58,478 --> 03:32:00,847 So I don't know if you can 9751 03:32:00,847 --> 03:32:01,214 answer maybe any questions by 9752 03:32:01,214 --> 03:32:03,214 SEPTEMBER 1st. 9753 03:32:04,484 --> 03:32:05,585 Your large task. 9754 03:32:05,585 --> 03:32:07,585 I don't know. 9755 03:32:08,880 --> 03:32:10,290 All very legitimate and some 9756 03:32:10,290 --> 03:32:11,191 you can't because you got the 9757 03:32:11,191 --> 03:32:11,525 policy and then you got the. 9758 03:32:11,525 --> 03:32:13,525 Politics. 9759 03:32:16,663 --> 03:32:20,263 >> and um if you tell the. 9760 03:32:20,567 --> 03:32:22,967 There's just no trust. 9761 03:32:23,700 --> 03:32:24,171 Yes. 9762 03:32:24,171 --> 03:32:24,471 >> duly noted. 9763 03:32:24,471 --> 03:32:25,271 Thank you. 9764 03:32:25,271 --> 03:32:26,973 >> council member. 9765 03:32:26,973 --> 03:32:27,474 Council councilmember graham 9766 03:32:27,474 --> 03:32:29,343 you done. 9767 03:32:29,343 --> 03:32:30,440 Councilmember I. 9768 03:32:30,440 --> 03:32:30,678 >> said it all. 9769 03:32:30,678 --> 03:32:31,612 Thank you. 9770 03:32:31,612 --> 03:32:33,612 Thank you mayor. 9771 03:32:34,281 --> 03:32:35,149 And um chief and team thank you 9772 03:32:35,149 --> 03:32:37,149 for the presentation. 9773 03:32:37,284 --> 03:32:39,787 And uh colleagues, thank you 9774 03:32:39,787 --> 03:32:40,621 for some really, really great 9775 03:32:40,621 --> 03:32:41,555 robust questions. 9776 03:32:41,555 --> 03:32:42,656 Um. 9777 03:32:42,656 --> 03:32:44,191 >> that I think are. 9778 03:32:44,191 --> 03:32:46,940 Really important and they all. 9779 03:32:46,940 --> 03:32:47,280 Deserve full. 9780 03:32:47,280 --> 03:32:49,280 Full answers. 9781 03:32:49,831 --> 03:32:50,631 Uh, I think the task of what 9782 03:32:50,631 --> 03:32:51,732 chief has before her. 9783 03:32:51,732 --> 03:32:53,732 And trying to. 9784 03:32:54,568 --> 03:32:55,836 Answer any questions is she 9785 03:32:55,836 --> 03:32:57,905 might be able to answer a 9786 03:32:57,905 --> 03:32:59,807 percentage of them now, but 9787 03:32:59,807 --> 03:33:01,709 quite frankly probably until 9788 03:33:01,709 --> 03:33:02,509 there's an advancement of a 9789 03:33:02,509 --> 03:33:03,111 next round. 9790 03:33:03,111 --> 03:33:04,450 >> in the. 9791 03:33:04,450 --> 03:33:04,178 Grant where there's additional 9792 03:33:04,178 --> 03:33:06,178 . 9793 03:33:06,681 --> 03:33:07,181 Details you MAY or MAY not I 9794 03:33:07,181 --> 03:33:07,615 don't want to speak. 9795 03:33:07,615 --> 03:33:08,160 >> for you. 9796 03:33:08,160 --> 03:33:09,784 >> but. 9797 03:33:09,784 --> 03:33:11,519 You MAY or MAY not have that 9798 03:33:11,519 --> 03:33:11,719 information around what would 9799 03:33:11,719 --> 03:33:13,120 be. 9800 03:33:13,120 --> 03:33:15,120 The real. 9801 03:33:16,900 --> 03:33:18,900 stickiness to um. 9802 03:33:18,893 --> 03:33:19,930 What are the affirmative duties 9803 03:33:19,930 --> 03:33:19,393 ? 9804 03:33:19,393 --> 03:33:20,662 Right. 9805 03:33:20,662 --> 03:33:22,662 Um so. 9806 03:33:23,465 --> 03:33:23,765 I'll leave that in. 9807 03:33:23,765 --> 03:33:24,866 Your court. 9808 03:33:24,866 --> 03:33:25,100 >> to figure out what she can 9809 03:33:25,100 --> 03:33:26,134 answer. 9810 03:33:26,134 --> 03:33:28,534 What she can answer. 9811 03:33:28,803 --> 03:33:31,390 I will say that, um, some of 9812 03:33:31,390 --> 03:33:31,506 these anticipatory questions. 9813 03:33:31,506 --> 03:33:33,506 Um. 9814 03:33:34,776 --> 03:33:36,776 >> regarding affirmative duty 9815 03:33:37,445 --> 03:33:39,381 and, um, how we would take care 9816 03:33:39,381 --> 03:33:40,949 of these things if we were 9817 03:33:40,949 --> 03:33:44,419 advanced, etc. This sort of a 9818 03:33:44,419 --> 03:33:44,786 mixed bucket between sustained 9819 03:33:44,786 --> 03:33:46,786 sources. 9820 03:33:46,955 --> 03:33:48,890 So actually ftes and sources 9821 03:33:48,890 --> 03:33:49,240 that we'd have to. 9822 03:33:49,240 --> 03:33:50,591 Uh. 9823 03:33:50,591 --> 03:33:52,293 >> individually take. 9824 03:33:52,293 --> 03:33:54,829 On after a three year window 9825 03:33:54,829 --> 03:33:56,265 and then some accelerating 9826 03:33:56,265 --> 03:33:57,866 opportunities to invest in 9827 03:33:57,866 --> 03:33:58,200 spaces where we might not have 9828 03:33:58,200 --> 03:34:00,690 capital in. 9829 03:34:00,690 --> 03:34:01,360 Our in our budget or. 9830 03:34:01,360 --> 03:34:02,905 Might not want to. 9831 03:34:02,905 --> 03:34:03,171 >> put that burden on 9832 03:34:03,171 --> 03:34:03,772 taxpayers. 9833 03:34:03,772 --> 03:34:05,340 >> and so. 9834 03:34:05,340 --> 03:34:06,800 Certainly you have that in the 9835 03:34:06,800 --> 03:34:07,275 mix that you are. 9836 03:34:07,275 --> 03:34:09,275 Are putting. 9837 03:34:09,444 --> 03:34:11,346 Forward um, all the concerns 9838 03:34:11,346 --> 03:34:13,549 around ice I think are 9839 03:34:13,549 --> 03:34:15,751 extremely valid but also um. 9840 03:34:15,751 --> 03:34:18,921 We did have an event in our 9841 03:34:18,921 --> 03:34:21,757 community um, just a short 9842 03:34:21,757 --> 03:34:23,492 while ago and we did stand true 9843 03:34:23,492 --> 03:34:23,692 to what the chief said in terms 9844 03:34:23,692 --> 03:34:25,561 . 9845 03:34:25,561 --> 03:34:25,794 Of abiding by the law but 9846 03:34:25,794 --> 03:34:26,695 making. 9847 03:34:26,695 --> 03:34:28,695 Sure that. 9848 03:34:28,730 --> 03:34:31,267 If it's not within our purview 9849 03:34:31,267 --> 03:34:31,601 we don't participate in those 9850 03:34:31,601 --> 03:34:32,100 activities. 9851 03:34:32,100 --> 03:34:34,100 there are. 9852 03:34:34,804 --> 03:34:37,339 Other entities that do that and 9853 03:34:37,339 --> 03:34:38,607 I think I commend cmpd for 9854 03:34:38,607 --> 03:34:39,708 executing themselves very. 9855 03:34:39,708 --> 03:34:41,708 Well during. 9856 03:34:41,744 --> 03:34:42,770 That um, small window of time 9857 03:34:42,770 --> 03:34:42,544 but. 9858 03:34:42,544 --> 03:34:44,544 Very, very. 9859 03:34:44,580 --> 03:34:45,514 Difficult period of time. 9860 03:34:45,514 --> 03:34:46,915 Within our city. 9861 03:34:46,915 --> 03:34:48,852 We always want to be a 9862 03:34:48,852 --> 03:34:49,118 welcoming city and protect our 9863 03:34:49,118 --> 03:34:51,118 immigrant. 9864 03:34:51,354 --> 03:34:52,488 Community who just make us more 9865 03:34:52,488 --> 03:34:52,989 more um, beautiful. 9866 03:34:52,989 --> 03:34:54,524 >> and. 9867 03:34:54,524 --> 03:34:56,250 Diverse overall. 9868 03:34:56,250 --> 03:34:58,425 >> in a better city. 9869 03:34:58,494 --> 03:34:59,795 Uh, then the portion I'll say 9870 03:34:59,795 --> 03:35:02,932 is just sort of connected to 9871 03:35:02,932 --> 03:35:04,867 this technology piece um, that 9872 03:35:04,867 --> 03:35:05,969 we've talked about because just 9873 03:35:05,969 --> 03:35:07,537 a short while ago. 9874 03:35:07,537 --> 03:35:09,537 We approved. 9875 03:35:10,340 --> 03:35:12,875 Red light cameras that are 9876 03:35:12,875 --> 03:35:14,944 going to track vehicles and 9877 03:35:14,944 --> 03:35:17,780 other things, um, that come 9878 03:35:17,780 --> 03:35:19,382 within its purview and we have 9879 03:35:19,382 --> 03:35:20,349 621 cameras at intersections 9880 03:35:20,349 --> 03:35:20,683 all throughout the city of 9881 03:35:20,683 --> 03:35:22,418 charlotte. 9882 03:35:22,418 --> 03:35:23,854 And when something arises like 9883 03:35:23,854 --> 03:35:26,560 the event that happened last 9884 03:35:26,560 --> 03:35:28,456 week, um, in dilworth. 9885 03:35:28,558 --> 03:35:29,526 Those cameras were tapped into 9886 03:35:29,526 --> 03:35:30,160 to try and uh. 9887 03:35:30,160 --> 03:35:31,628 Very quickly. 9888 03:35:31,628 --> 03:35:33,596 Find an assailant. 9889 03:35:33,596 --> 03:35:36,766 And so I think that I bring 9890 03:35:36,766 --> 03:35:39,302 that up to say that I think our 9891 03:35:39,302 --> 03:35:41,972 stance on technology and how we 9892 03:35:41,972 --> 03:35:43,874 want to leverage technology um 9893 03:35:43,874 --> 03:35:47,344 ,in terms of how we advance 9894 03:35:47,344 --> 03:35:49,713 policy and um, accelerate 9895 03:35:49,713 --> 03:35:52,820 certain things like crime. 9896 03:35:52,820 --> 03:35:54,451 Enforcement or reduction or 9897 03:35:54,451 --> 03:35:56,353 even in other areas outside of 9898 03:35:56,353 --> 03:35:59,353 uh public safety is something 9899 03:35:59,356 --> 03:35:59,556 that I think needs to be um, 9900 03:35:59,556 --> 03:36:01,556 more. 9901 03:36:02,260 --> 03:36:04,728 pronounced and not just simply 9902 03:36:04,728 --> 03:36:06,497 that one one off conversation 9903 03:36:06,497 --> 03:36:06,663 where technology is a critical 9904 03:36:06,663 --> 03:36:08,663 . 9905 03:36:10,867 --> 03:36:11,234 Piece of how the answer get 9906 03:36:11,234 --> 03:36:13,234 solved. 9907 03:36:13,570 --> 03:36:16,874 Uh, but rather take a step back 9908 03:36:16,874 --> 03:36:18,475 and take a 5000 uh foot view of 9909 03:36:18,475 --> 03:36:20,845 how the city of charlotte wants 9910 03:36:20,845 --> 03:36:22,913 to embrace technology to 9911 03:36:22,913 --> 03:36:25,313 advance ourselves in these 9912 03:36:26,383 --> 03:36:27,517 spaces as others as we, um, 9913 03:36:27,517 --> 03:36:29,860 continue to grow and celebrate 9914 03:36:29,860 --> 03:36:31,788 the first year of the pearl and 9915 03:36:31,788 --> 03:36:32,122 our innovation hub and uh, the 9916 03:36:32,122 --> 03:36:34,122 thousands. 9917 03:36:35,930 --> 03:36:36,694 Of of doctors and med tech and 9918 03:36:36,694 --> 03:36:38,763 health tech folks who come to 9919 03:36:38,763 --> 03:36:41,299 the city of charlotte and 9920 03:36:41,299 --> 03:36:42,399 advancing the tech um 9921 03:36:42,399 --> 03:36:43,868 innovation hub that's going to 9922 03:36:43,868 --> 03:36:46,237 go along north tryon and 9923 03:36:46,237 --> 03:36:48,572 connect to you and ccs um, our. 9924 03:36:48,572 --> 03:36:49,673 One research status there. 9925 03:36:49,673 --> 03:36:51,673 >> will be. 9926 03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:54,410 Industries that are atten. 9927 03:36:54,979 --> 03:36:56,714 To education and other things 9928 03:36:56,714 --> 03:36:59,250 that technology will grow and 9929 03:36:59,250 --> 03:36:59,617 advance here effectively become 9930 03:36:59,617 --> 03:37:01,486 incubators. 9931 03:37:01,486 --> 03:37:02,119 And so we might want to have a 9932 03:37:02,119 --> 03:37:03,870 position uh. 9933 03:37:03,870 --> 03:37:05,870 City manager. 9934 03:37:05,890 --> 03:37:05,456 On how we would like to. 9935 03:37:05,456 --> 03:37:07,456 Interface with. 9936 03:37:07,491 --> 03:37:09,491 >> technology any advancement 9937 03:37:09,961 --> 03:37:10,628 um, just given how quickly it 9938 03:37:10,628 --> 03:37:11,263 is advancing. 9939 03:37:11,263 --> 03:37:12,664 Before us. 9940 03:37:12,664 --> 03:37:12,964 So it's all ahead. 9941 03:37:12,964 --> 03:37:13,298 Mayor. 9942 03:37:13,298 --> 03:37:14,532 Thank you. 9943 03:37:14,532 --> 03:37:15,166 >> thank everyone. 9944 03:37:15,166 --> 03:37:17,166 Who has. 9945 03:37:17,368 --> 03:37:18,636 Asked to be heard has been 9946 03:37:18,636 --> 03:37:19,571 heard clearly. 9947 03:37:19,571 --> 03:37:20,505 Robust discussion. 9948 03:37:20,505 --> 03:37:21,739 We have lots of very good. 9949 03:37:21,739 --> 03:37:22,840 Questions not. 9950 03:37:22,840 --> 03:37:24,142 Inclined to do a second round 9951 03:37:24,142 --> 03:37:25,410 because I think we've got the 9952 03:37:25,410 --> 03:37:27,312 sense that there are very 9953 03:37:27,312 --> 03:37:27,679 serious questions uh to be 9954 03:37:27,679 --> 03:37:29,214 answered. 9955 03:37:29,214 --> 03:37:30,480 Uh look forward to getting 9956 03:37:30,480 --> 03:37:31,916 answers from the chief. 9957 03:37:31,916 --> 03:37:33,185 This is not scheduled for an 9958 03:37:33,185 --> 03:37:34,319 it's not an agenda item. 9959 03:37:34,319 --> 03:37:35,554 We know that there's a deadline 9960 03:37:35,554 --> 03:37:37,489 for the application and I think 9961 03:37:37,489 --> 03:37:38,560 council will have to consider 9962 03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:38,690 how to how to. 9963 03:37:38,690 --> 03:37:40,690 Move forward. 9964 03:37:41,326 --> 03:37:41,693 In one way or another with that 9965 03:37:41,693 --> 03:37:42,695 manager. 9966 03:37:42,695 --> 03:37:43,462 I have a question for the. 9967 03:37:43,462 --> 03:37:45,462 Manager. 9968 03:37:46,598 --> 03:37:48,000 >> manager jones. 9969 03:37:48,000 --> 03:37:50,350 This is 22 days out. 9970 03:37:50,350 --> 03:37:51,303 I believe from. 9971 03:37:51,303 --> 03:37:51,937 >> the questions that have been 9972 03:37:51,937 --> 03:37:53,380 asked about on this. 9973 03:37:53,380 --> 03:37:55,380 Council that. 9974 03:37:55,840 --> 03:37:57,609 At minimum six of us have 9975 03:37:57,609 --> 03:38:00,900 shared very clear concerns. 9976 03:38:00,246 --> 03:38:01,213 I do not think there. 9977 03:38:01,213 --> 03:38:03,213 Is support. 9978 03:38:03,849 --> 03:38:04,216 For staff to continue using 9979 03:38:04,216 --> 03:38:05,451 staff. 9980 03:38:05,451 --> 03:38:07,451 Resource sources. 9981 03:38:08,154 --> 03:38:08,587 >> to even try to investigate 9982 03:38:08,587 --> 03:38:09,221 this grant. 9983 03:38:09,221 --> 03:38:10,956 We have. 9984 03:38:10,956 --> 03:38:12,691 >> just gone to this and we are 9985 03:38:12,691 --> 03:38:14,259 having a conversation where. 9986 03:38:14,259 --> 03:38:16,259 Council supported. 9987 03:38:16,395 --> 03:38:17,290 Our representative to. 9988 03:38:17,290 --> 03:38:18,264 Go say yes. 9989 03:38:18,264 --> 03:38:19,198 For discussion to. 9990 03:38:19,198 --> 03:38:20,166 Get more information. 9991 03:38:20,166 --> 03:38:21,100 We are. 9992 03:38:21,100 --> 03:38:21,467 Now looking. 9993 03:38:21,467 --> 03:38:22,101 >> at. 9994 03:38:22,101 --> 03:38:24,101 60 plus million. 9995 03:38:24,303 --> 03:38:26,172 Dollars going back to 2018. 9996 03:38:26,172 --> 03:38:26,806 Because we said yes, that we 9997 03:38:26,806 --> 03:38:28,806 would listen. 9998 03:38:29,175 --> 03:38:30,242 To the potential of. 9999 03:38:30,242 --> 03:38:31,810 A partnership. 10000 03:38:31,810 --> 03:38:33,545 If it. 10001 03:38:33,545 --> 03:38:34,246 >> needs to be in the form of. 10002 03:38:34,246 --> 03:38:35,181 >> a vote. 10003 03:38:35,181 --> 03:38:35,648 So that is very. 10004 03:38:35,648 --> 03:38:37,648 >> clear. 10005 03:38:38,151 --> 03:38:40,151 And or we. 10006 03:38:41,421 --> 03:38:41,788 Need to identify a date a 10007 03:38:41,788 --> 03:38:42,855 deadline day. 10008 03:38:42,855 --> 03:38:44,423 Prior to. 10009 03:38:44,423 --> 03:38:46,325 >> 22 days from now. 10010 03:38:46,325 --> 03:38:47,727 Since this is due this 10011 03:38:47,727 --> 03:38:48,694 application is due SEPTEMBER. 10012 03:38:48,694 --> 03:38:50,229 >> 1st where. 10013 03:38:50,229 --> 03:38:50,729 All 80 plus. 10014 03:38:50,729 --> 03:38:52,131 Questions are. 10015 03:38:52,131 --> 03:38:52,732 Going to be answered in. 10016 03:38:52,732 --> 03:38:53,667 Full for. 10017 03:38:53,667 --> 03:38:55,667 Council to have. 10018 03:38:56,169 --> 03:38:58,204 Time to have a real. 10019 03:38:58,204 --> 03:39:00,874 Discussion and before any more. 10020 03:39:00,874 --> 03:39:02,942 Time is put towards this grant 10021 03:39:02,942 --> 03:39:04,210 application but that falls 10022 03:39:04,210 --> 03:39:04,911 within your wheelhouse as. 10023 03:39:04,911 --> 03:39:06,746 >> the manager. 10024 03:39:06,746 --> 03:39:08,746 If you. 10025 03:39:09,480 --> 03:39:11,418 >> I think you COUNCILMAN MAY 10026 03:39:11,418 --> 03:39:12,619 feel what I would ask is very 10027 03:39:12,619 --> 03:39:13,320 clear what the council's. 10028 03:39:13,320 --> 03:39:15,320 Position is. 10029 03:39:15,856 --> 03:39:18,992 Um the chief has done a great 10030 03:39:18,992 --> 03:39:20,894 job with her team talking to 10031 03:39:20,894 --> 03:39:21,261 different entities within our 10032 03:39:21,261 --> 03:39:23,261 community. 10033 03:39:24,197 --> 03:39:25,965 Um, concepts like trying to 10034 03:39:25,965 --> 03:39:28,168 fund a non congregate shelter, 10035 03:39:28,168 --> 03:39:29,136 uh, many things that, uh, 10036 03:39:29,136 --> 03:39:31,536 council member owens talked. 10037 03:39:31,638 --> 03:39:32,106 About things that are along. 10038 03:39:32,106 --> 03:39:33,207 >> the. 10039 03:39:33,207 --> 03:39:34,308 Mental health spectrum also. 10040 03:39:34,308 --> 03:39:36,308 So I. 10041 03:39:36,810 --> 03:39:38,245 Have a strong sense of where 10042 03:39:38,245 --> 03:39:40,447 the council's position is. 10043 03:39:40,447 --> 03:39:42,482 I would just like to give the 10044 03:39:42,482 --> 03:39:42,983 chief and her team an 10045 03:39:42,983 --> 03:39:44,317 opportunity to have. 10046 03:39:44,317 --> 03:39:45,520 Conversations with some of. 10047 03:39:45,520 --> 03:39:45,386 >> the partners. 10048 03:39:45,386 --> 03:39:45,953 That she. 10049 03:39:45,953 --> 03:39:46,887 >> has talked. 10050 03:39:46,887 --> 03:39:47,388 To up to this point. 10051 03:39:47,388 --> 03:39:47,988 >> if that's. 10052 03:39:47,988 --> 03:39:49,256 >> fair, that's fair. 10053 03:39:49,256 --> 03:39:50,190 Mhm. 10054 03:39:50,190 --> 03:39:51,292 Okay. 10055 03:39:51,292 --> 03:39:52,693 >> any further. 10056 03:39:52,693 --> 03:39:54,693 Comments or questions. 10057 03:39:55,496 --> 03:39:57,397 On this last word from council 10058 03:39:57,397 --> 03:39:59,166 member as we were a hopefully 10059 03:39:59,166 --> 03:39:59,333 let's be conscious of the time 10060 03:39:59,333 --> 03:40:01,680 . 10061 03:40:01,680 --> 03:40:03,271 I know chief you said a lot of 10062 03:40:03,271 --> 03:40:04,705 the terms and conditions are 10063 03:40:04,705 --> 03:40:07,410 not something that we know. 10064 03:40:07,410 --> 03:40:08,342 So just knowing that we have 10065 03:40:08,342 --> 03:40:09,777 financial exposure I think that 10066 03:40:09,777 --> 03:40:10,744 should be a valid reason for us 10067 03:40:10,744 --> 03:40:11,212 to not pursue. 10068 03:40:11,212 --> 03:40:13,180 This further. 10069 03:40:13,180 --> 03:40:14,381 And I agree with councilmember 10070 03:40:14,381 --> 03:40:17,381 mayfield not invest more time. 10071 03:40:17,651 --> 03:40:18,786 In our staff resources, um, in 10072 03:40:18,786 --> 03:40:19,119 this opportunity because I 10073 03:40:19,119 --> 03:40:21,119 think you. 10074 03:40:21,923 --> 03:40:23,224 Hear from at least the majority 10075 03:40:23,224 --> 03:40:25,259 that we are not. 10076 03:40:25,259 --> 03:40:26,194 So excited. 10077 03:40:26,194 --> 03:40:27,728 About this opportunity. 10078 03:40:27,728 --> 03:40:28,196 That's all I have. 10079 03:40:28,196 --> 03:40:30,196 Okay. 10080 03:40:30,231 --> 03:40:32,631 >> rest of the agenda. 10081 03:40:33,367 --> 03:40:33,667 So uh, from manager's report. 10082 03:40:33,667 --> 03:40:34,702 Yeah. 10083 03:40:34,702 --> 03:40:35,102 >> so we're finished with the 10084 03:40:35,102 --> 03:40:35,336 manager's report. 10085 03:40:35,336 --> 03:40:36,170 Okay. 10086 03:40:36,170 --> 03:40:36,537 >> so we go. 10087 03:40:36,537 --> 03:40:36,971 >> to. 10088 03:40:36,971 --> 03:40:38,106 The business. 10089 03:40:38,106 --> 03:40:39,740 We will move now we'll move to 10090 03:40:39,740 --> 03:40:39,407 the business section of our 10091 03:40:39,407 --> 03:40:41,407 agenda. 10092 03:40:41,442 --> 03:40:41,810 Our first business item is for 10093 03:40:41,810 --> 03:40:43,810 authorization. 10094 03:40:45,380 --> 03:40:47,281 Of 2026 stormwater revenue 10095 03:40:47,281 --> 03:40:49,281 construction period financing. 10096 03:40:49,650 --> 03:40:49,851 Are there any speakers on this 10097 03:40:49,851 --> 03:40:50,618 issue? 10098 03:40:50,618 --> 03:40:52,618 Okay. 10099 03:40:54,550 --> 03:40:54,221 >> um for item ten this is item 10100 03:40:54,221 --> 03:40:55,791 ten. 10101 03:40:55,791 --> 03:40:57,993 is there a motion to adopt a. 10102 03:40:57,993 --> 03:40:58,794 Bond order and resolution 10103 03:40:58,794 --> 03:41:01,496 authorizing the issuance of up 10104 03:41:01,496 --> 03:41:02,931 to $110 million of construction 10105 03:41:02,931 --> 03:41:04,666 period financing and calling 10106 03:41:04,666 --> 03:41:06,434 for the execution and delivery 10107 03:41:06,434 --> 03:41:08,169 of various documents in 10108 03:41:08,169 --> 03:41:09,437 connection with that issuance 10109 03:41:09,437 --> 03:41:11,506 and authorized city officials 10110 03:41:11,506 --> 03:41:12,941 to take necessary actions to 10111 03:41:12,941 --> 03:41:13,909 complete the financing, 10112 03:41:13,909 --> 03:41:15,711 including making the 10113 03:41:15,711 --> 03:41:16,778 application to local government 10114 03:41:16,778 --> 03:41:17,212 commission so moved. 10115 03:41:17,212 --> 03:41:18,113 Is there a. 10116 03:41:18,113 --> 03:41:19,214 Second second? 10117 03:41:19,214 --> 03:41:19,581 Any questions? 10118 03:41:19,581 --> 03:41:21,581 Discussion. 10119 03:41:21,717 --> 03:41:22,651 All in favor raise your hand. 10120 03:41:22,651 --> 03:41:24,386 Any opposed? 10121 03:41:24,386 --> 03:41:26,254 It passes unanimously. 10122 03:41:26,254 --> 03:41:27,188 Number 11 the. 10123 03:41:27,188 --> 03:41:29,588 Second item on the. 10124 03:41:30,626 --> 03:41:33,162 Business agenda is um for land 10125 03:41:33,162 --> 03:41:34,263 purchase for cmpd northeast 10126 03:41:34,263 --> 03:41:36,263 division station. 10127 03:41:36,465 --> 03:41:36,799 Are there any speakers on this 10128 03:41:36,799 --> 03:41:37,432 item? 10129 03:41:37,432 --> 03:41:38,834 No, sir. 10130 03:41:38,834 --> 03:41:40,702 Good for item 11. 10131 03:41:40,702 --> 03:41:42,471 Is there a motion to approve 10132 03:41:42,471 --> 03:41:44,871 the purchase of an 10133 03:41:45,941 --> 03:41:47,941 approximately 5.566 acre parcel 10134 03:41:48,100 --> 03:41:49,645 located on the corner of harris 10135 03:41:49,645 --> 03:41:52,450 boulevard and old statesville 10136 03:41:53,490 --> 03:41:55,117 road in the amount of 10137 03:41:55,117 --> 03:41:57,190 $3,745,000 and b authorize the 10138 03:41:57,190 --> 03:41:58,921 city manager to negotiate and 10139 03:41:58,921 --> 03:42:00,823 execute all documents necessary 10140 03:42:00,823 --> 03:42:01,323 to complete this transaction. 10141 03:42:01,323 --> 03:42:03,323 So there. 10142 03:42:03,325 --> 03:42:04,759 >> any questions? 10143 03:42:04,759 --> 03:42:05,695 Council member mayfield. 10144 03:42:05,695 --> 03:42:06,229 Thank you. 10145 03:42:06,229 --> 03:42:08,229 >> uh. 10146 03:42:08,431 --> 03:42:11,434 Actually when we had the check 10147 03:42:11,434 --> 03:42:13,369 in with staff on friday asked a 10148 03:42:13,369 --> 03:42:13,803 question specifically about. 10149 03:42:13,803 --> 03:42:14,403 >> the. 10150 03:42:14,403 --> 03:42:15,137 Land purchase, I. 10151 03:42:15,137 --> 03:42:16,205 >> don't know if. 10152 03:42:16,205 --> 03:42:17,540 Anybody in. 10153 03:42:17,540 --> 03:42:17,873 >> here who was actually on 10154 03:42:17,873 --> 03:42:18,207 that. 10155 03:42:18,207 --> 03:42:18,907 Call. 10156 03:42:18,907 --> 03:42:20,907 >> but I have. 10157 03:42:20,943 --> 03:42:23,480 Note where I was waiting for a 10158 03:42:23,480 --> 03:42:25,215 response specifically to the 10159 03:42:25,215 --> 03:42:26,316 question that I asked. 10160 03:42:26,316 --> 03:42:27,717 All right. 10161 03:42:27,717 --> 03:42:28,952 You asked about. 10162 03:42:28,952 --> 03:42:30,686 >> this particular item. 10163 03:42:30,686 --> 03:42:32,555 That you have and is. 10164 03:42:32,555 --> 03:42:34,955 Unfortunately not in my. 10165 03:42:35,992 --> 03:42:36,359 Follow up the staff gave to me 10166 03:42:36,359 --> 03:42:37,593 earlier. 10167 03:42:37,593 --> 03:42:38,394 The day. 10168 03:42:38,394 --> 03:42:39,795 Pass the question on to. 10169 03:42:39,795 --> 03:42:41,198 >> you not. 10170 03:42:41,198 --> 03:42:42,432 After the. 10171 03:42:42,432 --> 03:42:43,566 Session that we had the 10172 03:42:43,566 --> 03:42:43,733 information session we had dave 10173 03:42:43,733 --> 03:42:44,701 . 10174 03:42:44,701 --> 03:42:45,301 Johnson, major. 10175 03:42:45,301 --> 03:42:46,102 With the. 10176 03:42:46,102 --> 03:42:47,103 >> police department. 10177 03:42:47,103 --> 03:42:48,838 Uh it's. 10178 03:42:48,838 --> 03:42:49,772 >> I'm glad to try to. 10179 03:42:49,772 --> 03:42:50,373 Answer the question. 10180 03:42:50,373 --> 03:42:51,174 Now or we have. 10181 03:42:51,174 --> 03:42:53,174 Resources here from. 10182 03:42:53,810 --> 03:42:56,646 Real estate also I used. 10183 03:42:56,646 --> 03:42:57,279 Okay major what I was I was 10184 03:42:57,279 --> 03:42:59,279 just trying to. 10185 03:43:03,253 --> 03:43:03,620 Um we're looking. 10186 03:43:03,620 --> 03:43:04,721 >> at. 10187 03:43:04,721 --> 03:43:08,321 A purchase price of this of. 10188 03:43:09,759 --> 03:43:11,759 3.7. $3,745,000. 10189 03:43:12,529 --> 03:43:13,963 So I did have a specific 10190 03:43:13,963 --> 03:43:15,399 question that I asked that but 10191 03:43:15,399 --> 03:43:16,233 the staff are not here nor that 10192 03:43:16,233 --> 03:43:17,301 they respond. 10193 03:43:17,301 --> 03:43:18,235 To so. 10194 03:43:18,235 --> 03:43:19,202 That's not helping me. 10195 03:43:19,202 --> 03:43:19,937 So manager jones. 10196 03:43:19,937 --> 03:43:20,504 If we're going. 10197 03:43:20,504 --> 03:43:21,305 >> to have. 10198 03:43:21,305 --> 03:43:23,305 A meeting on. 10199 03:43:23,640 --> 03:43:25,750 Friday as well as monday it 10200 03:43:25,750 --> 03:43:26,900 would be helpful for that. 10201 03:43:26,900 --> 03:43:27,310 what questions we asked 10202 03:43:27,310 --> 03:43:27,477 actually make their way back to 10203 03:43:27,477 --> 03:43:28,278 it. 10204 03:43:28,278 --> 03:43:28,879 Major. 10205 03:43:28,879 --> 03:43:29,179 >> I'm not going. 10206 03:43:29,179 --> 03:43:30,146 >> to. 10207 03:43:30,146 --> 03:43:31,470 Hit you with a question tonight 10208 03:43:31,470 --> 03:43:31,214 that you didn't have two days 10209 03:43:31,214 --> 03:43:31,748 to. 10210 03:43:31,748 --> 03:43:32,717 Prepare for. 10211 03:43:32,717 --> 03:43:34,585 . 10212 03:43:34,585 --> 03:43:36,820 >> since I initially asked this 10213 03:43:36,820 --> 03:43:37,221 on friday afternoon. 10214 03:43:37,221 --> 03:43:37,521 >> and. 10215 03:43:37,521 --> 03:43:37,721 I checked. 10216 03:43:37,721 --> 03:43:39,721 Into. 10217 03:43:40,858 --> 03:43:42,459 >> any further discussion on 10218 03:43:42,459 --> 03:43:43,727 this motion or any subsequent 10219 03:43:43,727 --> 03:43:44,995 any um other. 10220 03:43:44,995 --> 03:43:45,762 Motions with regard to the. 10221 03:43:45,762 --> 03:43:47,762 Action item. 10222 03:43:48,899 --> 03:43:49,499 That's on me. 10223 03:43:49,499 --> 03:43:50,301 >> you can. 10224 03:43:50,301 --> 03:43:52,301 Go to. 10225 03:43:53,104 --> 03:43:54,405 Calling the question uh, all in 10226 03:43:54,405 --> 03:43:56,774 favor of the motion as outlined 10227 03:43:56,774 --> 03:43:57,408 in item 11 and previously read 10228 03:43:57,408 --> 03:43:58,342 please raise your hand. 10229 03:43:58,342 --> 03:44:00,342 Okay. 10230 03:44:01,178 --> 03:44:03,178 >> any opposed? 10231 03:44:03,981 --> 03:44:04,948 The motion carries tonight 10232 03:44:04,948 --> 03:44:06,550 count city council will also 10233 03:44:06,550 --> 03:44:06,850 make nominations to boards and 10234 03:44:06,850 --> 03:44:08,319 commissions. 10235 03:44:08,319 --> 03:44:09,721 The council members submitted 10236 03:44:09,721 --> 03:44:11,322 their nominations earlier to 10237 03:44:11,322 --> 03:44:13,524 the clerk via email. 10238 03:44:13,524 --> 03:44:16,600 Names of nominees will not be 10239 03:44:16,600 --> 03:44:16,527 read at the dais tomorrow the 10240 03:44:16,527 --> 03:44:17,328 clerk will email. 10241 03:44:17,328 --> 03:44:18,663 City council. 10242 03:44:18,663 --> 03:44:18,930 >> the names of applicants that 10243 03:44:18,930 --> 03:44:20,865 received. 10244 03:44:20,865 --> 03:44:22,600 At least two nominations. 10245 03:44:22,600 --> 03:44:23,400 These candidates will be 10246 03:44:23,400 --> 03:44:23,734 considered for appointment at 10247 03:44:23,734 --> 03:44:24,869 the next. 10248 03:44:24,869 --> 03:44:26,869 Business meeting. 10249 03:44:27,339 --> 03:44:29,107 Any applicant receiving six or 10250 03:44:29,107 --> 03:44:30,750 more nominations can be 10251 03:44:30,750 --> 03:44:32,750 considered for appointment 10252 03:44:32,110 --> 03:44:33,244 tonight on a motion second and 10253 03:44:33,244 --> 03:44:35,113 majority vote of council. 10254 03:44:35,113 --> 03:44:36,547 The names of all nominees will 10255 03:44:36,547 --> 03:44:37,382 be recorded in the official 10256 03:44:37,382 --> 03:44:39,717 minutes of the meeting. 10257 03:44:39,717 --> 03:44:40,851 The clerk will now proceed with 10258 03:44:40,851 --> 03:44:42,421 announcing the results of the. 10259 03:44:42,421 --> 03:44:43,688 Nomination and then council 10260 03:44:43,688 --> 03:44:44,656 member mayfield, do you have a 10261 03:44:44,656 --> 03:44:47,626 question after those are read? 10262 03:44:47,626 --> 03:44:48,860 He's going um. 10263 03:44:48,860 --> 03:44:49,327 I saw you. 10264 03:44:49,327 --> 03:44:49,794 >> it. 10265 03:44:49,794 --> 03:44:50,895 Was not. 10266 03:44:50,895 --> 03:44:51,830 Clear the. 10267 03:44:51,830 --> 03:44:52,297 Way you started. 10268 03:44:52,297 --> 03:44:53,298 Out. 10269 03:44:53,298 --> 03:44:53,731 >> mayor harrington. 10270 03:44:53,731 --> 03:44:54,799 >> but. 10271 03:44:54,799 --> 03:44:55,433 I believe at the end. 10272 03:44:55,433 --> 03:44:56,670 You stated. 10273 03:44:56,670 --> 03:44:57,936 That the clerk. 10274 03:44:57,936 --> 03:44:59,370 Is going to announce. 10275 03:44:59,370 --> 03:45:00,439 Who received. 10276 03:45:00,439 --> 03:45:01,373 Six or more books. 10277 03:45:01,373 --> 03:45:03,373 The correct. 10278 03:45:04,420 --> 03:45:04,376 My apologies when you were 10279 03:45:04,376 --> 03:45:04,910 reading there. 10280 03:45:04,910 --> 03:45:06,411 Sounded like. 10281 03:45:06,411 --> 03:45:06,845 >> we were saying we weren't. 10282 03:45:06,845 --> 03:45:07,145 >> gonna. 10283 03:45:07,145 --> 03:45:08,347 Out now. 10284 03:45:08,347 --> 03:45:10,347 Who was nominated? 10285 03:45:11,182 --> 03:45:11,984 So we're not going to announce 10286 03:45:11,984 --> 03:45:12,651 other than. 10287 03:45:12,651 --> 03:45:14,651 Six who are. 10288 03:45:14,652 --> 03:45:14,986 >> actually a former member 10289 03:45:14,986 --> 03:45:15,387 jones thank. 10290 03:45:15,387 --> 03:45:15,754 >> you. 10291 03:45:15,754 --> 03:45:16,855 Thank you. 10292 03:45:16,855 --> 03:45:18,230 Thank you I do have. 10293 03:45:18,230 --> 03:45:19,625 >> a question and we can talk 10294 03:45:19,625 --> 03:45:19,959 about this with the clerk's 10295 03:45:19,959 --> 03:45:20,893 office later. 10296 03:45:20,893 --> 03:45:22,893 But the. 10297 03:45:24,196 --> 03:45:24,363 These boards how are we hearing 10298 03:45:24,363 --> 03:45:25,798 . 10299 03:45:25,798 --> 03:45:26,865 Uh how is council. 10300 03:45:26,865 --> 03:45:27,566 >> hearing from the boards? 10301 03:45:27,566 --> 03:45:28,667 um, I. 10302 03:45:28,667 --> 03:45:29,670 >> know that have city staff. 10303 03:45:29,670 --> 03:45:30,200 That they. 10304 03:45:30,200 --> 03:45:30,936 >> the the. 10305 03:45:30,936 --> 03:45:32,504 Liaison but. 10306 03:45:32,504 --> 03:45:33,438 I'd like to hear. 10307 03:45:33,438 --> 03:45:35,700 From the board. 10308 03:45:35,700 --> 03:45:36,709 Sometimes um. 10309 03:45:36,709 --> 03:45:38,311 Specifically the domestic 10310 03:45:38,311 --> 03:45:38,944 domestic violence board. 10311 03:45:38,944 --> 03:45:39,879 I want. 10312 03:45:39,879 --> 03:45:40,413 >> to know if. 10313 03:45:40,413 --> 03:45:41,514 >> we are. 10314 03:45:41,514 --> 03:45:41,847 Intentional about having 10315 03:45:41,847 --> 03:45:42,481 survivors. 10316 03:45:42,481 --> 03:45:44,481 On that. 10317 03:45:44,850 --> 03:45:45,485 Board and then what committee 10318 03:45:45,485 --> 03:45:45,951 does that board. 10319 03:45:45,951 --> 03:45:47,353 Report to? 10320 03:45:47,353 --> 03:45:48,921 Um, and. 10321 03:45:48,921 --> 03:45:49,187 >> have we had presentations. 10322 03:45:49,187 --> 03:45:49,955 From this. 10323 03:45:49,955 --> 03:45:50,556 >> board or any of. 10324 03:45:50,556 --> 03:45:51,657 >> the boards? 10325 03:45:51,657 --> 03:45:53,657 Domestic violence is. 10326 03:45:54,627 --> 03:45:54,961 So serious and tragic in our 10327 03:45:54,961 --> 03:45:55,895 community. 10328 03:45:55,895 --> 03:45:57,163 So I like us to. 10329 03:45:57,163 --> 03:45:58,898 >> be intentional about making 10330 03:45:58,898 --> 03:46:00,766 I know the recommended target. 10331 03:46:00,766 --> 03:46:01,434 Um individuals I think they 10332 03:46:01,434 --> 03:46:03,200 were both. 10333 03:46:03,200 --> 03:46:04,303 Males and not that men can't be 10334 03:46:04,303 --> 03:46:04,470 victims of domestic violence 10335 03:46:04,470 --> 03:46:05,237 but. 10336 03:46:05,237 --> 03:46:06,305 >> I want to know how. 10337 03:46:06,305 --> 03:46:07,906 Intentional we are. 10338 03:46:07,906 --> 03:46:09,308 About making sure. 10339 03:46:09,308 --> 03:46:10,760 There's peers. 10340 03:46:10,760 --> 03:46:11,444 On these. 10341 03:46:11,444 --> 03:46:11,644 >> boards that's all. 10342 03:46:11,644 --> 03:46:13,130 Yeah. 10343 03:46:13,130 --> 03:46:13,980 >> so just for clarification, I 10344 03:46:13,980 --> 03:46:16,216 think the only thing we will 10345 03:46:16,216 --> 03:46:18,117 decide tonight is that if there 10346 03:46:18,117 --> 03:46:18,351 are nominations by six of the 10347 03:46:18,351 --> 03:46:19,385 members. 10348 03:46:19,385 --> 03:46:21,120 But let me also. 10349 03:46:21,120 --> 03:46:21,454 Let council member anderson 10350 03:46:21,454 --> 03:46:21,921 respond. 10351 03:46:21,921 --> 03:46:22,855 thank you. 10352 03:46:22,855 --> 03:46:24,123 >> mayor harrington. 10353 03:46:24,123 --> 03:46:24,924 I just wanted to respond to 10354 03:46:24,924 --> 03:46:26,659 your question. 10355 03:46:26,659 --> 03:46:28,261 Uh, colleague yes, the domestic 10356 03:46:28,261 --> 03:46:30,597 violence board falls underneath 10357 03:46:30,597 --> 03:46:32,650 the public safety committee and 10358 03:46:32,650 --> 03:46:34,100 we've actually had them already 10359 03:46:34,100 --> 03:46:35,680 come to committee and present 10360 03:46:35,680 --> 03:46:37,468 to us and share. 10361 03:46:37,737 --> 03:46:37,937 With us some of their concerns 10362 03:46:37,937 --> 03:46:39,937 . 10363 03:46:40,273 --> 03:46:41,541 And so we're committed to doing 10364 03:46:41,541 --> 03:46:44,760 that at least on a quarterly 10365 03:46:44,760 --> 03:46:45,212 basis is to have those um, one 10366 03:46:45,212 --> 03:46:46,313 of those committees that fall 10367 03:46:46,313 --> 03:46:47,748 under the purview of public. 10368 03:46:47,748 --> 03:46:48,849 Safety coming present, but 10369 03:46:48,849 --> 03:46:49,549 you're spot on. 10370 03:46:49,549 --> 03:46:50,951 They've already come in. 10371 03:46:50,951 --> 03:46:51,751 They've already participated. 10372 03:46:51,751 --> 03:46:52,285 Uh. 10373 03:46:52,285 --> 03:46:53,920 >> you. 10374 03:46:53,920 --> 03:46:55,920 Any further questions? 10375 03:46:56,990 --> 03:46:59,159 Be sure to read the oh okay. 10376 03:46:59,159 --> 03:46:59,826 Okay again, MR. Mayor, I'm only 10377 03:46:59,826 --> 03:47:01,394 reading the ones. 10378 03:47:01,394 --> 03:47:02,496 >> that received six or. 10379 03:47:02,496 --> 03:47:04,496 More so for. 10380 03:47:05,599 --> 03:47:07,534 The crb um, andrew davis 10381 03:47:07,534 --> 03:47:08,335 received 11 nominations and 10382 03:47:08,335 --> 03:47:09,970 sheriff hannon. 10383 03:47:09,970 --> 03:47:11,970 Received 11 nominations. 10384 03:47:13,640 --> 03:47:14,775 For the community uh community 10385 03:47:14,775 --> 03:47:17,144 relations committee it was to 10386 03:47:17,144 --> 03:47:17,944 nominate four but only two 10387 03:47:17,944 --> 03:47:18,578 received six or. 10388 03:47:18,578 --> 03:47:20,578 >> more vote. 10389 03:47:20,614 --> 03:47:23,150 So that was travis barnes who 10390 03:47:23,150 --> 03:47:24,451 received seven nominations and 10391 03:47:24,451 --> 03:47:25,986 uh tiffany. 10392 03:47:25,986 --> 03:47:27,721 Sims received nine. 10393 03:47:27,721 --> 03:47:27,921 Nominations so that one will 10394 03:47:27,921 --> 03:47:29,289 come. 10395 03:47:29,289 --> 03:47:31,358 Back for the domestic. 10396 03:47:31,358 --> 03:47:33,358 Violence advisory committee. 10397 03:47:35,950 --> 03:47:37,599 Edward brass with receive ten 10398 03:47:37,599 --> 03:47:38,199 nominations and dustin hovis 10399 03:47:38,199 --> 03:47:40,199 received 11 nominations. 10400 03:47:41,403 --> 03:47:42,937 And finally for. 10401 03:47:42,937 --> 03:47:44,937 the um. 10402 03:47:46,730 --> 03:47:48,473 Youdo board of adjustments 10403 03:47:48,776 --> 03:47:49,376 tamara shamberg received nine. 10404 03:47:49,376 --> 03:47:50,411 >> nominations and. 10405 03:47:50,411 --> 03:47:52,112 Just to be clear. 10406 03:47:52,112 --> 03:47:53,881 Acclamation just just to be 10407 03:47:53,881 --> 03:47:55,160 clear on the committees where 10408 03:47:55,160 --> 03:47:57,218 you said things will come back 10409 03:47:57,218 --> 03:47:59,120 it's for the the folks who did 10410 03:47:59,120 --> 03:48:00,722 not get six even for those 10411 03:48:00,722 --> 03:48:01,689 committees if they got six 10412 03:48:01,689 --> 03:48:02,490 nominations we were voting on 10413 03:48:02,490 --> 03:48:03,290 them tonight correct? 10414 03:48:03,290 --> 03:48:05,159 That is correct. 10415 03:48:05,159 --> 03:48:06,594 So for the community relations 10416 03:48:06,594 --> 03:48:06,927 committee it was to nominate 10417 03:48:06,927 --> 03:48:08,927 four. 10418 03:48:09,129 --> 03:48:09,463 But only two people received 10419 03:48:09,463 --> 03:48:11,320 six or. 10420 03:48:11,320 --> 03:48:13,101 More nominations so that more 10421 03:48:13,101 --> 03:48:13,435 will come back for the other 10422 03:48:13,435 --> 03:48:14,235 two. 10423 03:48:14,235 --> 03:48:15,537 . 10424 03:48:15,537 --> 03:48:17,805 >> got it and I understand that 10425 03:48:17,805 --> 03:48:19,674 will fall into the anticipated 10426 03:48:19,674 --> 03:48:19,974 motion for acceptance by 10427 03:48:19,974 --> 03:48:21,576 acclamation. 10428 03:48:21,576 --> 03:48:21,910 Focal point that I can move 10429 03:48:21,910 --> 03:48:23,910 mayfield. 10430 03:48:24,879 --> 03:48:25,847 Second any opposition there? 10431 03:48:25,847 --> 03:48:27,847 Okay. 10432 03:48:27,848 --> 03:48:28,115 >> uh let's let's go ahead and 10433 03:48:28,115 --> 03:48:28,916 do it. 10434 03:48:28,916 --> 03:48:30,485 All in. 10435 03:48:30,485 --> 03:48:32,485 >> favor any opposed? 10436 03:48:33,755 --> 03:48:36,424 All right we are done and we 10437 03:48:36,424 --> 03:48:39,127 have had a request for a we've 10438 03:48:39,127 --> 03:48:39,361 had a request for close uh um 10439 03:48:39,361 --> 03:48:40,395 session. 10440 03:48:40,395 --> 03:48:41,290 Um excuse. 10441 03:48:41,290 --> 03:48:41,596 Me. 10442 03:48:41,596 --> 03:48:42,197 >> I'm just. 10443 03:48:42,197 --> 03:48:43,131 >> a point of order. 10444 03:48:43,131 --> 03:48:44,399 Where are we going to. 10445 03:48:44,399 --> 03:48:45,800 Follow up with this referral? 10446 03:48:45,800 --> 03:48:46,601 A question. 10447 03:48:46,601 --> 03:48:48,601 >> from earlier. 10448 03:48:48,937 --> 03:48:49,338 So remind me what the question. 10449 03:48:49,338 --> 03:48:49,638 >> I. 10450 03:48:49,638 --> 03:48:50,806 Want to. 10451 03:48:50,806 --> 03:48:52,740 >> make sure that the concerns 10452 03:48:52,740 --> 03:48:52,908 that councilmember johnson had 10453 03:48:52,908 --> 03:48:54,908 lifted up, uh. 10454 03:48:55,877 --> 03:48:58,460 Were covered in the referral. 10455 03:48:58,460 --> 03:48:58,380 And as I read it, it appears 10456 03:48:58,380 --> 03:48:59,514 that it's. 10457 03:48:59,514 --> 03:49:00,815 Uh I want. 10458 03:49:00,815 --> 03:49:01,616 >> to I want there to be some 10459 03:49:01,616 --> 03:49:03,510 clarity because it feels like 10460 03:49:03,510 --> 03:49:03,285 it MAY be out of scope from 10461 03:49:03,285 --> 03:49:04,520 what's. 10462 03:49:04,520 --> 03:49:05,454 Written on this paper. 10463 03:49:05,454 --> 03:49:06,622 Um. 10464 03:49:06,622 --> 03:49:08,791 >> and I just want a line. 10465 03:49:08,791 --> 03:49:10,226 On whether or not it's in scope 10466 03:49:10,226 --> 03:49:12,127 or not because as I look at 10467 03:49:12,127 --> 03:49:13,595 what the charges it says review 10468 03:49:13,595 --> 03:49:14,696 current council adopted 10469 03:49:14,696 --> 03:49:16,980 policies and practices that 10470 03:49:16,980 --> 03:49:16,665 inform transportation 10471 03:49:16,665 --> 03:49:17,733 infrastructure requirements 10472 03:49:17,733 --> 03:49:18,366 through the rezoning 10473 03:49:18,366 --> 03:49:20,366 development process. 10474 03:49:20,669 --> 03:49:21,636 Evaluate how transportation 10475 03:49:21,636 --> 03:49:22,772 requirements are currently 10476 03:49:22,772 --> 03:49:24,400 documented and communicated to 10477 03:49:24,400 --> 03:49:24,273 council stakeholders and the 10478 03:49:24,273 --> 03:49:25,341 public. 10479 03:49:25,341 --> 03:49:26,309 Recommend potential 10480 03:49:26,309 --> 03:49:28,678 improvements to enhance clarity 10481 03:49:28,678 --> 03:49:30,579 ,consistency and transparency 10482 03:49:30,579 --> 03:49:32,181 but I don't see there recommend 10483 03:49:32,181 --> 03:49:32,414 improvements to the process 10484 03:49:32,414 --> 03:49:34,414 itself. 10485 03:49:36,118 --> 03:49:38,787 And so I guess the question is 10486 03:49:38,787 --> 03:49:39,540 whether we need a referral in 10487 03:49:39,540 --> 03:49:39,622 addition. 10488 03:49:39,622 --> 03:49:41,622 >> to this. 10489 03:49:41,657 --> 03:49:41,991 Referral to make that point 10490 03:49:41,991 --> 03:49:43,991 right. 10491 03:49:44,270 --> 03:49:44,961 And is that something that um. 10492 03:49:44,961 --> 03:49:46,961 I will ask. 10493 03:49:46,996 --> 03:49:48,264 The city attorney for, you 10494 03:49:48,264 --> 03:49:49,398 know, per input, is that 10495 03:49:49,398 --> 03:49:49,799 something that we need. 10496 03:49:49,799 --> 03:49:50,566 >> to. 10497 03:49:50,566 --> 03:49:51,334 Do tonight or is that. 10498 03:49:51,334 --> 03:49:51,801 Something that should come. 10499 03:49:51,801 --> 03:49:52,134 >> as. 10500 03:49:52,134 --> 03:49:52,768 A referral. 10501 03:49:52,768 --> 03:49:54,637 >> in the normal. 10502 03:49:54,637 --> 03:49:56,705 Course because if so I mean I 10503 03:49:56,705 --> 03:49:57,807 I'm happy to second uh, a 10504 03:49:57,807 --> 03:49:58,410 referral request from a council 10505 03:49:58,410 --> 03:49:58,641 member. 10506 03:49:58,641 --> 03:49:58,975 That's how we would just. 10507 03:49:58,975 --> 03:49:59,276 >> have. 10508 03:49:59,276 --> 03:49:59,709 It done on. 10509 03:49:59,709 --> 03:50:00,543 >> the record. 10510 03:50:00,543 --> 03:50:01,100 >> you can have it on the. 10511 03:50:01,100 --> 03:50:01,745 Record certainly. 10512 03:50:01,745 --> 03:50:02,846 >> and mayor you can. 10513 03:50:02,846 --> 03:50:03,480 Send that referral. 10514 03:50:03,480 --> 03:50:04,414 It that's at. 10515 03:50:04,414 --> 03:50:05,348 A time that's appropriate. 10516 03:50:05,348 --> 03:50:07,348 Or good. 10517 03:50:08,170 --> 03:50:09,752 >> is there a motion I think we 10518 03:50:09,752 --> 03:50:10,553 need to state really clearly 10519 03:50:10,553 --> 03:50:11,354 what the motion. 10520 03:50:11,354 --> 03:50:13,354 With the. 10521 03:50:13,389 --> 03:50:14,156 Item that's being referred is. 10522 03:50:14,156 --> 03:50:16,156 Happy to take. 10523 03:50:16,193 --> 03:50:17,627 That outside of this meeting if 10524 03:50:17,627 --> 03:50:18,762 we can do it with better 10525 03:50:18,762 --> 03:50:19,290 clarity of what's being 10526 03:50:19,290 --> 03:50:21,290 requested. 10527 03:50:21,130 --> 03:50:22,732 Um, but it's the council's 10528 03:50:22,732 --> 03:50:23,700 pleasure if if a motion is 10529 03:50:23,700 --> 03:50:23,867 requested and a second received 10530 03:50:23,867 --> 03:50:24,834 . 10531 03:50:24,834 --> 03:50:26,690 So I have a question. 10532 03:50:26,690 --> 03:50:27,470 One of the things the city. 10533 03:50:27,470 --> 03:50:28,938 Manager said it was had already 10534 03:50:28,938 --> 03:50:30,273 been referred to committee. 10535 03:50:30,273 --> 03:50:33,873 So I was looking at the. 10536 03:50:34,144 --> 03:50:34,478 Tracker um and I didn't see 10537 03:50:34,478 --> 03:50:36,460 anything. 10538 03:50:36,460 --> 03:50:37,140 Specifically to discuss 10539 03:50:37,140 --> 03:50:37,948 cumulative impact. 10540 03:50:37,948 --> 03:50:38,582 So if. 10541 03:50:38,582 --> 03:50:40,450 >> um if. 10542 03:50:40,450 --> 03:50:41,718 This is redundant then we. 10543 03:50:41,718 --> 03:50:42,180 Can I guess work that out 10544 03:50:42,180 --> 03:50:42,819 afterwards. 10545 03:50:42,819 --> 03:50:43,486 But I do want. 10546 03:50:43,486 --> 03:50:44,387 To I guess make. 10547 03:50:44,387 --> 03:50:44,854 >> a motion. 10548 03:50:44,854 --> 03:50:46,854 >> then. 10549 03:50:48,158 --> 03:50:49,426 To refer the item to you to 10550 03:50:49,426 --> 03:50:49,693 refer the item to. 10551 03:50:49,693 --> 03:50:50,494 committee. 10552 03:50:50,494 --> 03:50:52,494 >> which committee? 10553 03:50:54,665 --> 03:50:54,832 Uh tpd I guess all right tbd, 10554 03:50:54,832 --> 03:50:56,832 tbd. 10555 03:50:57,935 --> 03:50:58,869 Committee transportation. 10556 03:50:58,869 --> 03:50:59,803 Planning and development. 10557 03:50:59,803 --> 03:51:01,371 Committee to. 10558 03:51:01,371 --> 03:51:03,730 Discuss cumulative. 10559 03:51:03,730 --> 03:51:03,874 Impact and. 10560 03:51:03,874 --> 03:51:05,742 Could use. 10561 03:51:05,742 --> 03:51:06,710 State just so we have it on the 10562 03:51:06,710 --> 03:51:08,312 record I know we're saying to 10563 03:51:08,312 --> 03:51:08,879 discuss cumulative impact, but 10564 03:51:08,879 --> 03:51:09,380 I think it. 10565 03:51:09,380 --> 03:51:10,314 >> would be. 10566 03:51:10,314 --> 03:51:13,314 Helpful to be more descriptive 10567 03:51:13,584 --> 03:51:13,951 of exactly what we're referring 10568 03:51:13,951 --> 03:51:15,352 other. 10569 03:51:15,352 --> 03:51:15,886 Than saying cumulative impact. 10570 03:51:15,886 --> 03:51:16,353 >> I. 10571 03:51:16,353 --> 03:51:17,921 Guess to. 10572 03:51:17,921 --> 03:51:19,921 Discuss revising the. 10573 03:51:19,957 --> 03:51:20,891 Policy review. 10574 03:51:20,891 --> 03:51:22,459 The ueo. 10575 03:51:22,459 --> 03:51:24,459 Policy um. 10576 03:51:25,997 --> 03:51:27,398 For transportation studies. 10577 03:51:27,398 --> 03:51:28,499 Yeah, tis. 10578 03:51:28,499 --> 03:51:29,434 To address. 10579 03:51:29,434 --> 03:51:30,535 Cumulative impact. 10580 03:51:30,535 --> 03:51:31,469 Yeah to include. 10581 03:51:31,469 --> 03:51:32,870 To include. 10582 03:51:32,870 --> 03:51:33,137 Cumulative impact. 10583 03:51:33,137 --> 03:51:33,437 Yeah. 10584 03:51:33,437 --> 03:51:33,871 Second is. 10585 03:51:33,871 --> 03:51:34,505 >> there. 10586 03:51:34,505 --> 03:51:36,505 Is a second. 10587 03:51:36,774 --> 03:51:36,974 And make recommendations policy 10588 03:51:36,974 --> 03:51:38,642 and. 10589 03:51:38,642 --> 03:51:39,310 Make recommendations to the 10590 03:51:39,310 --> 03:51:40,644 policy yes. 10591 03:51:40,644 --> 03:51:41,411 Yes that's where the. 10592 03:51:41,411 --> 03:51:43,114 Rubber meets the road. 10593 03:51:43,114 --> 03:51:44,849 And and mayor can I ask. 10594 03:51:44,849 --> 03:51:46,849 If we want. 10595 03:51:46,885 --> 03:51:47,652 >> to add the truck parking. 10596 03:51:47,652 --> 03:51:49,387 We can have it. 10597 03:51:49,387 --> 03:51:50,488 We talked about. 10598 03:51:50,488 --> 03:51:50,688 That earlier okay okay I'll 10599 03:51:50,688 --> 03:51:51,823 leave. 10600 03:51:51,823 --> 03:51:52,323 >> it alone but. 10601 03:51:52,323 --> 03:51:52,623 >> we do. 10602 03:51:52,623 --> 03:51:54,250 Need to. 10603 03:51:54,250 --> 03:51:55,259 Discuss commercial. 10604 03:51:55,259 --> 03:51:55,459 Parking but I'll leave it there 10605 03:51:55,459 --> 03:51:55,760 . 10606 03:51:55,760 --> 03:51:57,760 Yeah. 10607 03:51:57,795 --> 03:51:57,995 Why don't you restate just that 10608 03:51:57,995 --> 03:51:58,395 you. 10609 03:51:58,395 --> 03:51:58,996 >> can. 10610 03:51:58,996 --> 03:51:59,931 You can cover. 10611 03:51:59,931 --> 03:52:00,365 What they got it so. 10612 03:52:00,365 --> 03:52:01,990 >> that. 10613 03:52:01,990 --> 03:52:03,499 You can cover what? 10614 03:52:04,235 --> 03:52:04,436 Um um, council member mira said 10615 03:52:04,436 --> 03:52:05,770 or. 10616 03:52:05,770 --> 03:52:06,738 The city attorney can read it, 10617 03:52:06,738 --> 03:52:08,172 but I just want to make sure we 10618 03:52:08,172 --> 03:52:10,208 have clear in the record what 10619 03:52:10,208 --> 03:52:10,575 the full motion is and then we 10620 03:52:10,575 --> 03:52:10,942 can get us. 10621 03:52:10,942 --> 03:52:11,476 >> an. 10622 03:52:11,476 --> 03:52:11,743 Awesome thank you. 10623 03:52:11,743 --> 03:52:12,510 Let us. 10624 03:52:12,510 --> 03:52:13,444 Yeah, yeah. 10625 03:52:13,444 --> 03:52:14,112 >> I would. 10626 03:52:14,112 --> 03:52:14,412 >> like to get our. 10627 03:52:14,412 --> 03:52:15,947 Captured. 10628 03:52:15,947 --> 03:52:16,413 Please read so the. 10629 03:52:16,413 --> 03:52:17,216 Motion by. 10630 03:52:17,216 --> 03:52:18,450 >> MISS Johnson. 10631 03:52:18,450 --> 03:52:19,840 Seconded by MISS. 10632 03:52:19,840 --> 03:52:19,518 Mayfield was to. 10633 03:52:19,518 --> 03:52:20,552 Refer the. 10634 03:52:20,552 --> 03:52:21,353 >> item to the mayor. 10635 03:52:21,353 --> 03:52:22,921 To refer. 10636 03:52:22,921 --> 03:52:23,989 >> to tpd committee to. 10637 03:52:23,989 --> 03:52:25,989 Discuss the cumulative. 10638 03:52:26,191 --> 03:52:26,424 Impact revising the udot 10639 03:52:26,424 --> 03:52:27,592 policy. 10640 03:52:27,592 --> 03:52:28,793 >> for transportation. 10641 03:52:28,793 --> 03:52:29,327 For transportation study. 10642 03:52:29,327 --> 03:52:30,695 >> and to. 10643 03:52:30,695 --> 03:52:31,290 Make recommendations to the 10644 03:52:31,290 --> 03:52:32,897 policy. 10645 03:52:32,897 --> 03:52:33,631 Are we good? 10646 03:52:33,631 --> 03:52:35,167 And that's why you. 10647 03:52:35,167 --> 03:52:35,668 Got the we got the motion we 10648 03:52:35,668 --> 03:52:37,668 got the second. 10649 03:52:38,804 --> 03:52:40,706 All in favor any opposed all 10650 03:52:40,706 --> 03:52:42,140 right that carries okay again 10651 03:52:42,140 --> 03:52:43,442 anything else I think we've had 10652 03:52:43,442 --> 03:52:44,676 a request for closed session. 10653 03:52:44,676 --> 03:52:45,444 We need a motion. 10654 03:52:45,444 --> 03:52:46,545 To do that. 10655 03:52:46,545 --> 03:52:46,945 That's right mayor thank you. 10656 03:52:46,945 --> 03:52:47,879 I would. 10657 03:52:47,879 --> 03:52:49,314 Ask the city attorney to read 10658 03:52:49,314 --> 03:52:50,448 the read the language and then 10659 03:52:50,448 --> 03:52:50,949 someone can make a motion if 10660 03:52:50,949 --> 03:52:51,884 it's their pleasure. 10661 03:52:51,884 --> 03:52:52,585 Thank you. 10662 03:52:52,585 --> 03:52:53,180 >> mayor harrington. 10663 03:52:53,180 --> 03:52:53,619 >> the motion. 10664 03:52:53,619 --> 03:52:54,386 >> is to. 10665 03:52:54,386 --> 03:52:55,554 Request the motion. 10666 03:52:55,554 --> 03:52:57,220 >> is to go into closed session 10667 03:52:57,220 --> 03:52:59,240 pursuant to an cgs 140. 10668 03:52:59,240 --> 03:52:59,491 3-3 18.11. 10669 03:52:59,491 --> 03:52:59,958 A three. 10670 03:52:59,958 --> 03:53:00,793 >> to. 10671 03:53:00,793 --> 03:53:01,427 Consult with the city. 10672 03:53:01,427 --> 03:53:02,928 Attorney regarding. 10673 03:53:02,928 --> 03:53:04,928 >> the legal implications. 10674 03:53:04,963 --> 03:53:05,898 Of a proposed action and. 10675 03:53:05,898 --> 03:53:06,298 To preserve. 10676 03:53:06,298 --> 03:53:06,965 >> the. 10677 03:53:06,965 --> 03:53:08,965 Attorney client privilege. 10678 03:53:08,967 --> 03:53:09,902 Is there a motion so moved? 10679 03:53:09,902 --> 03:53:11,902 Second. 10680 03:53:11,971 --> 03:53:12,538 >> any questions? 10681 03:53:12,538 --> 03:53:13,973 All in favor? 10682 03:53:13,973 --> 03:53:14,573 Any opposed? 10683 03:53:14,573 --> 03:53:16,475 All right. 10684 03:53:16,475 --> 03:53:18,875 >> we're going into closing. 10685 03:53:28,603 --> 03:53:30,504 Charlotte revenue is mostly 10686 03:53:30,504 --> 03:53:33,000 coming from taxes. The biggest