[0:59] evening.
[1:03] >> meeting.
[1:13] We.
[1:30] We.
[1:41] We.
[1:44] We.
[2:11] We.
[2:14] We.
[2:29] We.
[2:32] Each.
[2:53] Now call the.
[2:54] Meeting to order.
[2:55] Good evening and thank you all
[2:57] for joining us in person here
[2:59] and those watching online for
[3:01] our AUGUST 24th business
[3:01] meeting.
[3:04] Now we'll begin with
[3:05] introductions around the dais
[3:06] uh, starting with our city
[3:08] clerk to my right.
[3:09] Billy town's deputy.
[3:11] City clerk andrea leslie by
[3:12] city attorney.
[3:13] Who do.
[3:14] >> you mean mayor at large?
[3:15] Good evening.
[3:16] I'm victoria watlington.
[3:17] >> and I have.
[3:17] >> the pleasure of serving.
[3:18] You as a member at large.
[3:20] Good evening.
[3:21] Joy mayo representing district
[3:21] three.
[3:24] Marcus jones, city manager rob
[3:25] harrington mayor.
[3:26] Good evening everyone james
[3:28] mitchell mayor pro tem.
[3:29] Good evening kimberly.
[3:30] Owens representing.
[3:31] >> district.
[3:32] Six malcolm graham district
[3:32] two.
[3:34] And driggs district seven.
[3:36] Good evening luana mateo,
[3:36] councilmember.
[3:37] At large.
[3:39] Good evening jd my sweater adds
[3:40] proudly representing the east
[3:40] side district.
[3:42] five good evening I'm renee
[3:44] johnson and I'm honored to.
[3:45] Represent district four.
[3:47] Thank you.
[3:49] We begin our meeting with an
[3:51] invocation expression or
[3:52] inspiration followed by the
[3:53] pledge of allegiance.
[3:55] The invocation is intended to
[3:57] solemnized our proceedings.
[3:58] We celebrate the religious
[4:00] diversity of our community
[4:01] including those without a
[4:02] religious faith.
[4:04] Tonight council member doctor
[4:05] watlington will give our
[4:05] invocation.
[4:07] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[4:08] Uh.
[4:08] >> for those of.
[4:08] >> you.
[4:09] That would like to please.
[4:11] Join us and bow our heads.
[4:13] Heavenly father.
[4:14] We come before you.
[4:15] Tonight grateful for.
[4:16] >> this city.
[4:17] And for the trust placed.
[4:18] In us to serve it well.
[4:20] Lord give us wisdom beyond our
[4:22] own understanding as we
[4:22] deliberate.
[4:23] Tonight and as we hear from the
[4:24] community.
[4:25] Give us humility to.
[4:26] Listen to.
[4:28] >> each other and to the
[4:28] neighbors who.
[4:30] Aren't in this room but whose
[4:31] lives are shaped by what.
[4:33] We decide here lord, where
[4:34] there is disagreement among us,
[4:37] let it be rooted in respect.
[4:38] Where there is doubt, grant us
[4:41] clarity where there is division
[4:41] in our city.
[4:43] Use us as instruments of
[4:44] healing.
[4:45] Rather than discord.
[4:46] Lord, we ask that you guide
[4:48] every vote cast tonight.
[4:49] Toward justice.
[4:52] Toward mercy and toward the
[4:53] well-being of every person who
[4:54] calls charlotte home.
[4:57] We ask this in your name amen.
[4:58] Amen.
[5:00] >> please stand and join us in
[5:01] the pledge of allegiance.
[5:05] I pledge allegiance to.
[5:05] >> the flag.
[5:06] Of the.
[5:08] United states.
[5:08] >> of.
[5:09] America and to.
[5:09] >> the.
[5:11] Republic for which it stands
[5:13] one nation under GOD,
[5:15] indivisible, with liberty and
[5:16] justice for all.
[5:21] Before we move to voting on
[5:22] consent items, I want to take a
[5:24] quick moment because we have a
[5:25] representative from anderson
[5:27] county who I think has a
[5:29] special message and recognition
[5:30] for some of our city staff.
[5:32] I'll now recognize CHAIRMAN
[5:34] Cordle of anson county.
[5:37] Take your time.
[5:38] >> uh.
[5:45] Right here.
[5:46] >> be great.
[5:46] Like to thank.
[5:49] We.
[5:49] >> be.
[5:50] Right behind you.
[5:50] Right behind you.
[5:55] Uh, this was much better.
[5:56] >> so it's, uh, taller.
[5:58] So good evening council.
[5:59] Good evening mayor staff.
[6:00] Thank you.
[6:01] >> for the opportunity to
[6:01] address you tonight.
[6:04] Um, my name is jamie colter.
[6:05] I'm the CHAIRMAN Of the anson
[6:06] county board of commissioners.
[6:08] Um, I call it a neighboring
[6:09] county.
[6:10] we're just a few miles east of
[6:10] here.
[6:12] But, uh, again, I appreciate
[6:13] you letting me, uh, speak
[6:13] tonight.
[6:16] I just want to address a, um,
[6:17] situation that we had in nancy
[6:19] county back on JULY the 7th.
[6:22] Uh, ac county experienced a
[6:24] countywide water system loss.
[6:25] So we had a complete
[6:26] depressurization of our water
[6:28] system across the entire county
[6:28] .
[6:30] 95% of our citizens were
[6:31] without drinkable water at that
[6:31] time.
[6:34] Um, the next couple days after
[6:36] that line break, our focus was
[6:38] to restore water service for
[6:39] the basic principle of fire
[6:40] protection to all residents and
[6:41] businesses.
[6:43] Once that was achieved, our
[6:45] focus then became on restoring
[6:46] quality drinking water to all
[6:47] the citizens of our district or
[6:48] our county.
[6:50] Um during that time it became
[6:53] apparent that our utility staff
[6:54] was going to need some help and
[6:55] getting that restored.
[6:56] So we began to reach out to our
[6:58] neighboring municipalities,
[6:59] neighboring counties and the
[7:00] city of charlotte being one of
[7:00] those.
[7:03] Um, I'm here tonight to tell
[7:04] you thank you for the
[7:05] assistance that you provided to
[7:07] our county during that time.
[7:11] Um, I want to thank the elected
[7:11] officials.
[7:13] I want to thank the city staff
[7:13] .
[7:14] And most importantly, I want to
[7:16] thank the men and women who had
[7:17] boots on the ground who helped
[7:18] us restore that service to all
[7:19] of our citizens in our county.
[7:21] uh, we are all north
[7:22] carolinians and that's what
[7:23] makes this the greatest state
[7:24] in the country to live in north
[7:25] carolina.
[7:28] Um, when we need help we always
[7:29] lend a hand to our neighbors.
[7:30] And that's exactly what you did
[7:32] for our county and anson county
[7:32] .
[7:34] Uh, your willingness to lend a
[7:35] hand or in this case several
[7:37] hands, um, just shows the type
[7:38] of character that.
[7:38] >> you.
[7:40] As leaders, uh, exhibit and
[7:41] also your staff.
[7:43] Um, you sent 9 to 10 highly
[7:44] skilled and trained crew
[7:46] members each day for 2 or 3
[7:47] long days.
[7:50] And I want to specify long days
[7:53] ,um, to help us that worked
[7:54] diligently to help us restore
[7:55] the water service.
[7:58] I can't name them all but I do
[7:59] want to especially thank MR.
[8:01] Marion sanders and I know he's
[8:02] in the audience behind me here
[8:02] .
[8:03] Um.
[8:05] He is truly a remarkable person
[8:07] and a true leader in that
[8:07] department.
[8:09] And so he was on site with us
[8:10] in our eoc operations center
[8:12] and MR. Sanders was there every
[8:14] day and I just want to thank
[8:15] him personally.
[8:16] But also, you know, the staff
[8:18] and also I have not met this
[8:19] person yet.
[8:21] We I did not physically talk to
[8:22] you on the phone but I was on
[8:23] the phone conversations with
[8:23] her.
[8:26] Um, MISS Angela charles at your
[8:26] water lab.
[8:28] Um, and she might be here
[8:29] tonight.
[8:29] i would know.
[8:30] Yeah.
[8:32] >> nice to meet you.
[8:37] So?
[8:39] >> so MISS Charles, she did
[8:42] whatever was necessary to get
[8:44] our water samples, uh, fixed
[8:45] and tested.
[8:47] She offered.
[8:48] Extended hours on dropping off
[8:49] water samples.
[8:51] Accommodated us our county in
[8:53] whatever way she could do.
[8:55] Um, she provided technical
[8:57] support on obtaining the water
[8:57] samples.
[8:58] That way we could lift our boil
[8:59] water advisory and our citizens
[9:01] could go back to consuming the
[9:01] water.
[9:04] Most importantly, she give our
[9:05] citizens a trusted.
[9:06] Resource that they could
[9:07] believe in.
[9:09] The water sample was, uh,
[9:11] passing and was able to be
[9:11] consumed.
[9:13] So I want to say thank you to
[9:14] MISS Charles, MR. Sanders and
[9:16] all of the staff I can't like I
[9:16] said, I can't name all the
[9:17] staff members.
[9:18] They were way too many people
[9:19] coming in in that building that
[9:19] day.
[9:22] Um, so tonight I just want to
[9:23] present you with this plaque.
[9:25] Um, and grateful recognition of
[9:27] your invaluable assistance,
[9:29] extraordinary partnership and
[9:30] unwavering support provided to
[9:32] anson county during the JULY
[9:33] 2026 water emergency.
[9:34] Your dedication to public
[9:36] service and commitment to
[9:37] helping our community during a
[9:40] time of need exemplify the
[9:41] highest ideals of local
[9:42] government and emergency
[9:42] response.
[9:45] so it's a sincere appreciation
[9:47] and gratitude on behalf of
[9:48] anson county commissioners,
[9:50] anson county staff and most
[9:51] importantly the anc county
[9:51] citizens.
[9:52] We say thank you for your.
[9:54] Partnership.
[10:24] >>
[10:26] uh.
[10:30] >> we.
[10:40] >> are credit to the city.
[10:40] Thank you.
[10:41] Thank.
[10:41] You.
[10:42] Thank you.
[10:43] You good job.
[10:44] You know.
[10:47] Thank you.
[10:48] Thank you very.
[10:49] Jason.
[10:50] Thank you, MISS.
[10:51] Appreciate it.
[10:54] We just going.
[10:57] Through excruciating.
[11:02] Didn't jim didn't.
[11:11] All all right.
[11:13] Yeah.
[11:15] No.
[11:17] Oh, wait.
[11:18] Good evening.
[11:19] Yeah.
[11:20] See?
[11:21] All time.
[11:23] To ask.
[11:37] Thank you, CHAIRMAN Carl.
[11:39] And thanks to all the staff at
[11:39] charlotte.
[11:40] Water for.
[11:41] >> your hard work.
[11:42] Helping our neighbor community.
[11:42] Uh.
[11:45] I'm sure do it again.
[11:47] Just likes to say thank you.
[11:47] Thank you.
[11:47] Thank you.
[11:48] >> so appreciate that.
[11:49] Thank you.
[11:50] >> thanks for coming through.
[11:51] >> I think you get there.
[11:52] thank you sir.
[11:52] Thank you thank you.
[11:53] Thank you.
[11:55] Thank you.
[11:55] Thank you.
[11:55] CHAIRMAN.
[11:56] Always good to have good news.
[11:57] Oh, yeah.
[11:58] All right.
[11:59] We'll start that again.
[12:00] Thank you, CHAIRMAN Carl.
[12:02] And thank you to all the staff
[12:03] of charlotte water for your
[12:05] hard work on helping our
[12:06] neighboring community in their
[12:07] time of need.
[12:09] That's a wonderful way to start
[12:09] the meeting.
[12:11] So thanks again to everyone
[12:12] that is involved from charlotte
[12:13] water and to the CHAIRMAN.
[12:16] Um I'd like to thank again all
[12:18] of you for joining us on behalf
[12:19] of the entire city council.
[12:21] I ask that audience members be
[12:22] civil and courteous while in
[12:23] the chamber.
[12:25] We want to ensure that everyone
[12:26] has a positive experience while
[12:27] attending this meeting.
[12:29] We will start our meeting items
[12:32] with consideration of consent
[12:34] agenda items before we take the
[12:34] vote.
[12:36] Are there any for comment or
[12:37] for a separate vote?
[12:38] We will vote on the items not
[12:40] pulled first and then address
[12:41] any item pulled for.
[12:42] A separate vote later.
[12:43] Council member wish mayor.
[12:45] Item number 20 just for
[12:45] comment.
[12:48] The any others?
[12:51] Okay.
[12:53] MAY I have a motion to approve
[12:56] the consent agenda items 13
[12:59] through 32 with the exception
[13:00] of item 26.
[13:00] Is there.
[13:03] >> any further discussions or
[13:04] comments as to the bulk of the
[13:05] items?
[13:07] All in favor please raise your
[13:07] hand.
[13:08] Any opposed?
[13:09] All right.
[13:10] That passes.
[13:12] Um, since we have comments just
[13:14] on one let's go ahead and take
[13:14] that now.
[13:15] Council members.
[13:15] Mayor.
[13:17] So first I'll make a motion to
[13:19] approve item number 20 and then
[13:20] I'll make a comment.
[13:20] Second.
[13:23] Okay I'll speaking of charlotte
[13:23] water.
[13:24] Um I.
[13:25] >> just want to highlight
[13:25] charlotte.
[13:26] Water again.
[13:28] They are a champion.
[13:29] Of the circular.
[13:32] Economy and angela charles and
[13:35] her team does an excellent job
[13:36] of meeting our cap goals.
[13:39] We have seen that when they
[13:39] unveiled.
[13:40] A renew rule.
[13:43] And this is item number 20 is
[13:45] just another example of how.
[13:45] >> we.
[13:46] Recover our.
[13:49] Valuable resources like
[13:51] phosphorus and nitrogen from
[13:51] wastewater to.
[13:52] Support a circular.
[13:54] Sustainable economy.
[13:57] And this is going to result in
[13:58] almost $2 million.
[14:00] So let me say that again
[14:02] sustainable sustainability and
[14:03] economic development and cost
[14:04] saving goes hand in hand.
[14:06] So angela, thank you.
[14:07] >> for your leadership.
[14:10] In helping us meet our goals as
[14:12] well as our sustainability
[14:12] department.
[14:14] Thank you for your leadership.
[14:19] Thank you.
[14:20] >> council member ash mayor we
[14:22] have a motion and a second.
[14:23] Um.
[14:24] ,to.
[14:26] Approve item number 20.
[14:27] The motion.
[14:29] Uh, now we're ready for a vote.
[14:30] All in favor raise your right
[14:30] hand.
[14:31] Any opposed?
[14:32] All right.
[14:34] The passes and we're complete
[14:36] with the, uh, consent agenda.
[14:38] And now we move to open forum.
[14:39] Uh, public forum.
[14:41] I'd like to thank you all for
[14:43] joining us and behalf of the
[14:43] entire city council.
[14:45] I ask that all speakers and
[14:47] audience members be civil and
[14:48] courteous in their use of
[14:48] language.
[14:50] Speakers are encouraged to
[14:52] address council and should
[14:53] refrain from responding to
[14:54] audience members.
[14:55] Likewise, audience members
[14:57] should be courteous of each
[14:59] speaker and not yell out or
[14:59] interrupt speakers.
[15:01] We want to ensure that everyone
[15:03] has the chance to be heard
[15:03] tonight.
[15:05] Since there are more than ten
[15:06] speakers, each speaker will
[15:08] have two minutes to address
[15:08] council.
[15:10] Thank you.
[15:11] And now I'd like to call the
[15:13] first speaker and that will
[15:14] require me to get my list.
[15:16] To the first speaker.
[15:18] Um I apologies if I
[15:20] mispronounced name but he is on
[15:20] holiday.
[15:26] MR. Day.
[15:27] Here.
[15:29] >> all right.
[15:31] Second speaker is mike homan.
[15:36] Right?
[15:38] >> next speaker is jim berry.
[15:40] Jim.
[15:45] >> I'm going to stop striking
[15:45] out here.
[15:48] The next speaker is manolo
[15:48] betancourt.
[15:49] That's a manila.
[15:57] You know we have three marinas
[15:57] now without them.
[15:58] Uh.
[16:02] Unfortunately there's a waiting
[16:02] list but we look.
[16:03] >> forward to hearing from.
[16:06] Uh, good evening, MR. Mayor.
[16:07] Doing it.
[16:08] And they are.
[16:09] Friends of, uh, our city
[16:10] council.
[16:13] I had a very nice speech 24
[16:13] hours ago.
[16:15] They wrote for all of you.
[16:19] But everything changed 24, 24
[16:21] hours ago when greg marino.
[16:23] Show up.
[16:25] Uh, my parking lot at the
[16:25] bakery.
[16:31] Uh, and he's the person who
[16:32] brought sonny's darkness and
[16:34] hate to our city this past
[16:34] NOVEMBER.
[16:37] And and the baker.
[16:40] I should be back selling cakes
[16:41] and bread.
[16:42] I shouldn't be condemned.
[16:45] And this person to show up in
[16:45] our city.
[16:50] I'm here to ask you to be a
[16:53] third people as ordinary people
[16:55] are the people who create a
[16:57] positive upset, a good change
[16:58] in our society.
[17:02] And ordinary people are the
[17:03] ones who live our daily lives.
[17:06] Our city is full of
[17:07] extraordinary people.
[17:10] I saw the this past NOVEMBER
[17:11] when everybody show up in my
[17:13] bakery when everybody show up
[17:14] in central avenue on a broad
[17:18] low to us but ice is still in
[17:20] charlotte every single day they
[17:22] are taking people away from our
[17:25] street, our business going
[17:25] down.
[17:27] Our children are going back to
[17:28] school tomorrow.
[17:32] They are they are in trauma.
[17:33] They are shut.
[17:36] They are worried and nobody is
[17:37] raising their voice.
[17:40] I've been baking for 29 years
[17:42] and this is worse than covid.
[17:44] This is worse than 2000 a
[17:44] recession.
[17:47] We all can combine and create
[17:50] solutions if we feel proud to
[17:52] bring back ceos, another
[17:53] company from another estate and
[17:57] we feel so proud and all 500
[17:59] million fortune company to
[18:00] charlotte which will feel proud
[18:01] for them.
[18:03] We take care of our two small
[18:04] businesses now where minorities
[18:04] .
[18:07] So I'm here to invite you to
[18:08] create solutions.
[18:10] Thank you so much.
[18:11] Thank you.
[18:24] >> next speaker our next
[18:24] speaker.
[18:32] Our next speaker is.
[18:33] Doctor.
[18:36] >> yes.
[18:37] >> I'm going to mispronounce
[18:40] your name but pietro zick is he
[18:40] here?
[18:43] With it's great.
[18:45] Next speaker is daniel araya.
[18:55] Here here.
[18:55] Yeah okay.
[18:55] Mhm.
[18:56] Yes.
[18:58] >> uh hello council my name is.
[18:59] Daniel warrior I live in
[19:00] district two.
[19:01] During a recent.
[19:03] conversation that this council
[19:03] .
[19:04] >> was having about the.
[19:05] Model cities initiative there.
[19:06] Are concerns.
[19:06] >> brought.
[19:06] Up about.
[19:08] >> flock cameras and similar
[19:08] technologies and.
[19:10] Potential expansion of use of
[19:11] that technology.
[19:12] And during that conversation.
[19:13] Another council member
[19:14] commented about that and said
[19:15] the following.
[19:16] The last.
[19:17] Portion of what I'll say is
[19:19] connected to this technology
[19:19] piece that.
[19:21] We've talked about because just
[19:21] a short while.
[19:22] Ago we approved red.
[19:23] Light cameras that are going to
[19:25] track vehicles and other things
[19:26] that come within its purview.
[19:29] And we have 621 cameras on
[19:29] intersections all throughout
[19:30] the city of charlotte.
[19:32] The reason this was concerning
[19:33] to me is because it made me
[19:34] realize that some members of
[19:37] this council MAY be
[19:39] catastrophically misinformed
[19:42] about the issue of surveillance
[19:42] technology.
[19:44] This is hugely concerning to
[19:45] me.
[19:48] The aclu described what was
[19:49] going on with flock this way
[19:50] recently the.
[19:52] Cloud automatic license plate
[19:54] reader company flock is
[19:58] building a dangerous nationwide
[20:00] mass surveillance
[20:00] infrastructure.
[20:02] They go on to say if your
[20:03] community adopts this
[20:05] technology you need to know
[20:06] it's doing more than just
[20:07] recording what car is driving
[20:09] where and at what time.
[20:11] I also would like to follow up
[20:13] and say that axon is another
[20:15] company that is doing a similar
[20:15] thing.
[20:17] Their technologies are
[20:19] developing and growing at
[20:20] breakneck pace.
[20:22] If this council waits another
[20:23] year to confront this issue.
[20:25] It will be too late.
[20:28] I call upon the council to do
[20:30] three things ask cmpd about
[20:31] their current use and planned
[20:33] use of technologies from flock
[20:35] ,axon and other surveillance
[20:35] companies.
[20:37] Gather information about this
[20:39] topic to ensure you are
[20:39] educated.
[20:40] And three.
[20:40] >> have an.
[20:42] Open discussion and make
[20:43] deliberate decisions about
[20:45] where charlotte is going to
[20:46] draw the line to protect our
[20:47] rights.
[20:50] This is a critical issue and I
[20:52] urge the council to please
[20:53] address this issue as soon as
[20:54] you can.
[20:56] Thank you very much for your
[20:57] service to the city and I look
[20:59] forward to action on this.
[20:59] >> thank you.
[20:59] MR..
[21:02] Wright.
[21:04] >> our next speaker.
[21:06] The next speaker is martha
[21:06] carney.
[21:10] Okay.
[21:13] >> next speaker is ashanti
[21:13] williams.
[21:30] Good evening mayor herrington.
[21:30] >> and city.
[21:31] Council members.
[21:32] My name is ashanti.
[21:34] Williams and I am an.
[21:35] Unaccompanied minor escort at
[21:36] the charlotte.
[21:37] douglass international.
[21:38] Airport servicing.
[21:41] American airlines passengers.
[21:42] While I'm.
[21:43] >> trusted to.
[21:45] Help keep the airport's most
[21:45] vulnerable passengers safe.
[21:47] I was recently put.
[21:48] Into a.
[21:49] >> situation where I was given
[21:50] the training.
[21:51] I wasn't given the training I
[21:52] needed.
[21:53] To do the job safely.
[21:55] I stepped in as a wheelchair
[21:57] attendant during a staffing
[21:57] shortage.
[21:58] And was expected to push two.
[22:00] Passengers at the same time.
[22:02] I had no help.
[22:03] No guidance.
[22:04] Or any idea how I was.
[22:05] >> going to push them both
[22:05] through.
[22:06] >> a.
[22:06] Crowded airport.
[22:08] I made one.
[22:08] Mistake that was a.
[22:10] Security violation.
[22:11] Because of that.
[22:13] Mistake I paid a hefty price.
[22:13] I didn't.
[22:15] >> know I had to do security
[22:15] too.
[22:17] Nobody told us these things.
[22:19] My airport badge was suspended
[22:21] for 67 days and it's because I
[22:22] had poor training.
[22:25] When charlotte airport security
[22:25] reinstated.
[22:26] >> my badge.
[22:29] They said that my employer
[22:30] prospect gave me insufficient
[22:32] training for nearly 70 days.
[22:33] I went without pay.
[22:35] My bills powder.
[22:37] Food was limited and I had to
[22:38] fight for my life to survive.
[22:40] Stories like mine happen when
[22:40] workers.
[22:41] >> are overworked.
[22:43] Understaffed and being asked to
[22:45] fill gaps without proper
[22:46] training and the support that
[22:47] we actually need.
[22:49] And when you add bottom of the
[22:51] barrel benefits and low pay
[22:52] that doesn't allow us to
[22:53] support our families.
[22:55] You have a recipe for disaster
[22:55] .
[22:57] I love my job and helping
[22:58] people travel safely.
[23:01] But the airport workers at clt
[23:01] deserve better.
[23:04] Mayor herrington charlotte city
[23:06] council the new airport lease
[23:09] at clt can change things for
[23:10] the better.
[23:12] Give the public 45 days to
[23:13] review the lease and require
[23:16] airlines and their contractors
[23:17] to publicly report their
[23:19] training and staffing data so
[23:20] we can improve airport
[23:21] services.
[23:22] And stories like mine don't.
[23:23] Happen again.
[23:24] Thank you.
[23:25] Because we've.
[23:33] Our next speaker is averil fong
[23:34] .
[23:36] Iva will fong.
[23:40] Next is leslie brown.
[23:46] Next is alisha brown.
[23:51] Nobody came to chicago for the
[23:51] short.
[24:14] MR. Brown if you could since I
[24:14] was going so fast.
[24:15] Two names if you could state
[24:16] your names just so we have them
[24:17] clearly.
[24:19] I'm sorry.
[24:19] Oh, if you could just.
[24:20] >> state your names because I
[24:21] was calling it a bunch of
[24:21] names.
[24:22] I want to make sure everybody
[24:23] knows who's talking.
[24:23] Very well.
[24:25] >> um, good evening, mayor and
[24:25] .
[24:26] Members of the charlotte.
[24:27] City council.
[24:27] I am.
[24:28] Alicia brown.
[24:30] I'm the founder and executive.
[24:31] Director of for the struggle.
[24:32] And the managing partner.
[24:33] Of justice and action law
[24:34] center.
[24:36] Um, I'm speaking tonight
[24:37] because what we've heard from
[24:38] the community.
[24:39] With respect to this.
[24:41] Curfew is that criminalization
[24:42] is not the answer.
[24:43] Resources is in fact.
[24:44] >> the answer.
[24:46] And the fact that investing in
[24:48] resources to alleviate this
[24:49] problem was not the initial
[24:51] response is concerning at
[24:51] least.
[24:54] Let's be honest.
[24:56] You all have heard.
[24:57] And we've already acknowledged
[24:59] that this ordinance will have a
[25:00] disproportionate impact on
[25:01] black and brown children.
[25:03] That is something that we
[25:03] already know.
[25:05] We know what's happened in the
[25:06] past and we know will continue
[25:07] to happen even.
[25:08] With this.
[25:09] Particular ordinance.
[25:13] What's even more concerning is
[25:13] criminalizing parents for.
[25:16] Children engaging in children
[25:17] activities and.
[25:19] Children behavior.
[25:20] We work with parents.
[25:22] Every single day.
[25:23] Low income parents.
[25:25] Struggling every.
[25:26] Single day.
[25:29] And the idea of criminalizing a
[25:31] parent for a child's activity
[25:33] is not only concerning, but it
[25:34] shows me that whoever wrote
[25:35] this ordinance is completely
[25:35] out of touch.
[25:38] We do not support a blanket 9
[25:40] P.M. Curfew as proposed if an
[25:41] immediate measure is necessary
[25:41] .
[25:42] It should be.
[25:44] Temporary and the attorney in
[25:46] me needs to say it needs to be.
[25:46] Narrowly tailored.
[25:50] And evaluated alongside
[25:51] non-criminal alternatives.
[25:52] After speaking.
[25:53] With our youth.
[25:56] Um again, criminalization under
[25:58] these circumstances is
[25:59] unrealistic and it's not the
[26:00] answer.
[26:01] You've been offered
[26:01] alternatives.
[26:03] We've seen the city pay
[26:04] astronomical amounts for
[26:05] studies to come.
[26:06] Up with solutions.
[26:08] Well this is the time to employ
[26:10] your community experts in
[26:11] impacted communities to come.
[26:13] Up with a real solution.
[26:16] The scope is far too broad.
[26:18] This in practice again will
[26:19] criminalize children who are
[26:21] not engaging in any criminal
[26:21] activity.
[26:23] My problem even further is that
[26:25] again it will have a
[26:26] disproportionate impact on
[26:26] black.
[26:27] >> and brown children.
[26:29] Thank you, MISS Brown.
[26:35] Next speaker is abraham.
[26:37] Smith.
[26:38] >> I believe the person after
[26:39] me is one.
[26:39] >> of.
[26:40] Our students to.
[26:41] Maya jama.
[26:41] Let's see.
[26:43] That I.
[26:45] Oh so it says on a she's
[26:46] speaking in the place of zone
[26:46] out.
[26:48] I know okay.
[26:50] Good evening.
[26:50] Sorry.
[26:51] If you're if we're not signed
[26:52] up we can't allow it.
[26:53] Um.
[26:53] Apologize.
[26:54] Okay.
[26:55] >> thank you.
[26:57] All right.
[27:00] >> the next speaker is doctor
[27:03] reverend doctor janet garner
[27:03] mullins.
[27:21] Good evening, MR..
[27:23] Mayor and council members.
[27:25] I'm here tonight to
[27:25] respectfully.
[27:26] Ask you.
[27:27] >> to stand firm.
[27:29] And maintain.
[27:29] >> the six.
[27:31] Vote position opposing the
[27:35] current I-77 south toll lane
[27:35] proposal.
[27:38] This issue is about more than
[27:38] transportation.
[27:40] It's about public trust.
[27:42] Residents attended.
[27:44] Meetings, submitted comments,
[27:46] contact elected officials and.
[27:47] >> made their views known.
[27:49] After hearing.
[27:50] >> those concerns.
[27:52] This council voted to oppose
[27:52] the project.
[27:55] The question before you is
[27:56] simple what.
[27:57] Is change?
[28:00] The transportation needs have
[28:01] not changed.
[28:03] The concerns raised by
[28:05] residents have not changed and
[28:06] the burdens that.
[28:07] Toll rose.
[28:08] Place on working families has
[28:09] not changed.
[28:12] What appears to have changed is
[28:13] the pressure on local
[28:16] government to revisit decisions
[28:16] that already.
[28:17] Reach through.
[28:19] Public engagement and.
[28:20] Careful deliberation.
[28:21] Let me be clear.
[28:24] We all want transportation
[28:24] improvements.
[28:27] We want safer roads, reduce
[28:28] congestion and better.
[28:30] Mobility throughout our region
[28:30] .
[28:32] But working families should not
[28:33] be.
[28:34] Asked to pay twice.
[28:37] Once through their taxes and
[28:39] again through tolls used on
[28:40] roads they've already.
[28:41] Paid for in the beginning.
[28:44] And for some residents.
[28:44] >> and neighborhoods.
[28:46] This proposal is.
[28:48] >> not merely about traffic
[28:48] patterns.
[28:50] It's about the potential
[28:51] disruption that will.
[28:53] Stablish communities families
[28:54] losing their homes they've
[28:55] worked for.
[28:56] >> for many years.
[28:58] And sometimes generations to
[28:58] below.
[29:01] Charlotte residents deserve
[29:02] transportation solutions that.
[29:02] >> are affordable.
[29:04] Transparent.
[29:05] >> accountable to.
[29:06] >> the public.
[29:08] So tonight I urge you to hold
[29:09] your position.
[29:11] Continue advocating for
[29:12] transportation solutions that.
[29:13] Reflect the needs.
[29:14] Values and.
[29:15] Voices of our people.
[29:18] Because roads can't be rebuilt.
[29:19] Budgets can be revised.
[29:21] But once public trust is.
[29:23] Lost you.
[29:24] Can't get it back.
[29:25] thank you.
[29:26] Thank you doctor.
[29:31] >> our next speaker is riki
[29:31] singh.
[29:34] Riki singh.
[29:36] All right.
[29:38] Next speaker is nathan hoffman.
[29:58] Good evening.
[29:59] >> mayor and members of the
[30:00] city council.
[30:02] My name is nathan hoffman.
[30:04] I'm an uptown resident,
[30:05] PRESIDENT Of friends of fourth
[30:07] ward and a member of the center
[30:09] city safety task force.
[30:11] I'm here tonight in support of
[30:11] the.
[30:12] Youth protection.
[30:12] Ordinance.
[30:15] >> I understand some of the
[30:16] concerns surrounding the
[30:16] ordinance.
[30:18] A curfew.
[30:19] Alone will not solve the
[30:21] challenges facing our young
[30:21] people.
[30:23] We absolutely need greater
[30:25] investment in youth programing
[30:27] ,mentorship, safe places for
[30:28] teens.
[30:30] To gather mental health.
[30:32] Resources and opportunities for
[30:34] young people to thrive.
[30:36] But I don't believe we have to
[30:36] choose.
[30:37] Between these investments.
[30:39] And giving cmpd a.
[30:41] Reasonable tool to protect
[30:41] young.
[30:43] People and our community.
[30:45] This ordinance creates clear.
[30:47] Expectations and importantly.
[30:50] Allows officers to intervene
[30:50] before.
[30:52] >> a situation escalates.
[30:55] Not simply after a crime has.
[30:57] Occurred or someone has become
[30:57] a victim.
[31:00] Use properly this should.
[31:02] >> not be about criminalizing
[31:02] young people.
[31:04] It should be an.
[31:06] Opportunity to engage them,
[31:08] reconnect them with parents and
[31:08] guardians.
[31:10] Identifies those who MAY need
[31:12] additional help and connect
[31:12] families with.
[31:14] Resources.
[31:16] >> as an uptown resident.
[31:17] I've seen.
[31:18] >> how quickly large
[31:19] unsupervised.
[31:20] Gatherings can change the
[31:21] environment for residents.
[31:22] Businesses.
[31:24] >> visitors and the.
[31:25] Young people themselves.
[31:26] This is.
[31:28] >> why implementation matters.
[31:30] It must be fair.
[31:33] Consistent, compassionate and
[31:33] accountable.
[31:35] Pair this ordinance.
[31:36] >> with.
[31:37] The visible policing, youth.
[31:39] Engagement, community.
[31:40] Partnerships.
[31:41] >> safe youth.
[31:43] Spaces and meaningful
[31:43] resources.
[31:44] And I believe we create
[31:47] something much more powerful
[31:47] than a curfew.
[31:49] We create a proactive.
[31:52] Preventive strategy on behalf
[31:54] of the residents of uptown and
[31:54] all those across.
[31:55] >> the city.
[31:57] I respectfully ask council to
[31:59] support the youth protection
[31:59] ordinance.
[32:00] Thank you.
[32:01] Thank you, MR. Hoffman.
[32:04] We will move on to the waiting
[32:06] list since we've got several
[32:07] spots still open.
[32:09] And next first on the waiting
[32:09] list.
[32:11] Next speaker is michael
[32:11] mcbride.
[32:15] And even more space on the
[32:16] waiting list now.
[32:18] Uh, nancy cook.
[32:26] Bishop omari MAY.
[32:30] Jamal snow.
[32:35] Queen.
[32:41] >> yes.
[32:48] Um.
[32:49] >> I think he's still coming.
[32:50] Because he.
[32:56] Mayor council.
[32:58] We need to be honest about what
[32:59] this ordinance actually will
[32:59] do.
[33:01] If we already know black and
[33:02] brown.
[33:03] Youth face disproportionate
[33:04] harm during police encounters.
[33:06] Why would we pass a policy that
[33:08] guarantees even more encounters
[33:08] ?
[33:09] And why criminalize parents
[33:10] when the system is already
[33:11] stacked against them?
[33:11] First.
[33:13] >> the curfew increases police
[33:15] youth contact especially for
[33:16] black and brown teens.
[33:19] Charlotte's own data shows 1503
[33:21] 32 juvenile related incidents
[33:22] this year.
[33:25] Only 30% happened after 8 P.M..
[33:26] So why create a policy that
[33:28] affects 100% of teens for 30%
[33:29] of the problem?
[33:31] Cities like baltimore, chicago
[33:33] ,minneapolis, nashville,
[33:34] raleigh and my hometown of
[33:35] fayetteville have already
[33:37] learned this lesson curfews
[33:38] don't reduce youth crime but
[33:40] they do increase police
[33:41] interaction and communities of
[33:42] color.
[33:43] Charlotte cannot afford to
[33:44] repeat those mistakes.
[33:46] Second, criminalizing parents
[33:48] will hit families underneath
[33:48] already under strain.
[33:50] under the current ordinance,
[33:51] parents can already be charged
[33:52] with contributing to a
[33:54] delinquency of a minor a class
[33:55] one misdemeanor.
[33:56] We know exactly who will bear
[33:56] the brunt.
[33:58] Black and brown parents.
[34:00] Single parents families already
[34:01] struggling economically and
[34:03] misdemeanor means fines, courts
[34:05] fees MISS Work even jail time
[34:07] that destabilizes housing
[34:08] employment and family
[34:08] structure.
[34:10] Criminalizing parents doesn't
[34:11] solve root causes.
[34:13] It deepens generational harm.
[34:15] I urge the council to remove
[34:15] revise this section.
[34:16] Third.
[34:17] >> we need alternatives that
[34:18] actually work.
[34:19] If the goal is safety and
[34:20] protection then investment
[34:21] strategies with proven impact.
[34:24] For example hotspot analysts so
[34:25] we know where youth academies
[34:26] are happening and can target
[34:28] solutions instead of blanket
[34:30] curfews from community
[34:30] organizations already trusted
[34:31] by youth.
[34:35] Credible messengers violence
[34:36] interrupters neighborhood peace
[34:37] teams.
[34:39] These models work in baltimore
[34:39] in new york chicago.
[34:41] Create a youth hotline.
[34:44] Replace criminal
[34:45] criminalization with support
[34:46] and provide safety technology
[34:49] such as door doorbells motion
[34:50] alert sensors for families in
[34:52] hotspot areas who need help
[34:53] keeping their kids safe in
[34:53] light.T.T.
[34:54] Charlotte has the talent and
[34:56] the organizations in the
[34:57] leadership to build something
[34:59] real, sustainable and rooted in
[34:59] trust.
[35:00] >> thank you.
[35:00] MR. Snow.
[35:03] Next speaker.
[35:04] Is brandy williams.
[35:06] Thank you for the name.
[35:08] Wendy williams.
[35:10] Not here.
[35:11] Okay.
[35:14] >> next speaker is jamia
[35:14] pittman.
[35:16] Okay.
[35:19] >> good evening, mayor.
[35:21] And members of city council.
[35:22] >> my name is DR..
[35:23] My opinion I'm a little used
[35:25] student and a young person
[35:25] connected to the charlotte
[35:26] community.
[35:27] I do not believe an earlier
[35:29] curfew is the best solution.
[35:30] Young people gather together
[35:31] does not audibly mean we are
[35:32] causing trouble.
[35:33] Sometimes we are simply
[35:35] spending time together after
[35:36] school work or an event.
[35:38] A curfew could also affect
[35:40] jobs, transportation, family
[35:40] responsibilities, school
[35:41] activities and social lives.
[35:43] Young people who are not
[35:44] causing trouble should not be
[35:46] punished for the actions of
[35:46] someone else.
[35:48] Instead of focusing mainly on
[35:49] enforcement, I am asking the
[35:50] city to invest safe places for
[35:52] us to go reliable
[35:54] transportation mentors pass
[35:55] positive activities and a
[35:56] trusted adults who will help
[35:57] conflict when this begins.
[35:59] Having someone who will listen
[36:01] to who are listening in a calm
[36:02] situation can stop a problem
[36:03] before it becomes worse.
[36:05] Before making a decision,
[36:06] please listen directly to young
[36:07] people who will be.
[36:08] Affected if.
[36:09] >> the curfew is changed.
[36:10] Make it temporarily and
[36:11] publicly review where they
[36:12] actually MAY start with safer
[36:13] and whether it is being
[36:14] applied.
[36:14] >> for use.
[36:16] Young people are part of this
[36:17] community to our experience.
[36:20] Opinions should be included in
[36:21] decisions about our safety and
[36:21] freedom.
[36:22] Thank you for listening.
[36:24] >> to our police.
[36:33] Our next speaker is robert
[36:33] mccutcheon.
[36:40] I'm so many things to hear.
[36:43] You have to repeat the name
[36:43] made in.
[36:46] Music to me.
[36:47] >> robert mccutcheon.
[36:51] Good evening mayor.
[36:52] Herrington and.
[36:54] >> fellow city council members
[36:54] .
[36:55] >> my name is robert
[36:55] mccutcheon.
[36:55] I have the.
[36:56] Privilege of.
[36:57] Leading the charlotte.
[36:58] Regional business alliance.
[36:59] Over the past.
[37:00] Several months.
[37:01] >> you've heard.
[37:01] Many passionate.
[37:03] Voices about.
[37:04] I-77 south.
[37:06] But I want to speak tonight for
[37:08] some of the people you.
[37:08] >> haven't heard from.
[37:10] Because while they MAY not be
[37:12] in this room, many of them are
[37:14] sitting on I-77 south right now
[37:14] .
[37:16] They're coming home from work
[37:18] picking up their kids, heading
[37:19] to an evening shift.
[37:22] They wear suits and scrubs and
[37:23] steel toed boots.
[37:26] They teach our children, stock
[37:27] ourselves, build our homes.
[37:28] Drive our.
[37:29] Trucks and serve our meals.
[37:32] And they share two hopes spend
[37:34] less time in traffic and make
[37:36] sure every neighborhood in
[37:37] charlotte has the opportunity
[37:38] to succeed.
[37:41] These are not competing values
[37:41] .
[37:43] They're charlotte values.
[37:45] The debate over I-77 south has
[37:47] too often become about winners
[37:48] and losers.
[37:50] But what if charlotte can do
[37:51] something bigger?
[37:53] What if we can reduce
[37:54] congestion for hundreds of
[37:56] thousands of people and
[37:57] reconnect communities divided
[37:59] for generations?
[38:00] What if we can improve mobility
[38:02] and bring a meaningful
[38:03] investment and opportunity to
[38:04] neighborhoods that have waited
[38:06] for decades for it?
[38:08] This isn't choosing one
[38:09] charlotte over another.
[38:11] That's choosing all of
[38:11] charlotte.
[38:14] Council you represent the
[38:15] people in this room but you
[38:17] also represent the parent
[38:18] trying to teach daycare before
[38:19] it closes.
[38:21] The nurse driving home after a
[38:22] 12 hour shift and the worker
[38:25] losing an hour every evening to
[38:25] traffic.
[38:27] And you represent communities
[38:29] that deserve investment
[38:30] opportunity and reconnection.
[38:32] Their voices matter too.
[38:33] History rarely.
[38:35] Remembers whether leaders
[38:37] choose the safest path.
[38:38] History remembers whether
[38:40] leaders choose the future.
[38:41] let's choose a charlotte that
[38:43] moves a charlotte that connects
[38:46] a charlotte that invests a
[38:47] charlotte that leaves no
[38:48] neighborhood behind.
[38:50] Thank you very much.
[38:50] >> thank you.
[38:52] MR. Mccutchen.
[38:55] Quiet.
[38:56] Please try.
[38:57] >> to.
[38:59] Next speaker.
[39:00] >> is cigar dorothy.
[39:02] Soccer.
[39:03] >> soccer.
[39:04] >> soccer.
[39:05] Rafi.
[39:06] Thank you.
[39:07] >> thank you.
[39:30] Good evening.
[39:30] Mayor.
[39:32] Members of council.
[39:33] My name is sagar rossi.
[39:34] I'm here in.
[39:35] Support of regional growth and
[39:37] as a resident of district
[39:37] seven.
[39:39] I'm here in support of moving.
[39:39] I-77 forward.
[39:41] Three key.
[39:42] Things I want to reiterate.
[39:44] First, I drive this.
[39:45] Corridor every.
[39:46] Day to the.
[39:47] Airport to south.
[39:49] Charlotte into uptown.
[39:49] It is.
[39:51] Unreliable now and it's not
[39:52] getting better.
[39:53] I don't think anyone here what
[39:55] other would argue otherwise.
[39:55] And it's not just.
[39:56] My experience.
[39:57] This is.
[39:58] Honestly one of the most travel
[40:00] corridors we've seen in any
[40:02] major metro in the in the us.
[40:03] It's not meeting the needs
[40:05] today and it's not changing
[40:05] anytime soon.
[40:08] our region is growing and this
[40:09] problem only gets worse the
[40:09] longer we wait.
[40:11] Second.
[40:12] >> I know there's been a lot of
[40:13] discussion regarding tolls and
[40:14] whether they're useful,
[40:16] beneficial or helpful and in
[40:16] this instance.
[40:17] I think.
[40:18] >> there's something pretty
[40:19] unique about how we're funding
[40:19] this.
[40:20] >> or.
[40:20] How we're funding the
[40:21] structure.
[40:21] .
[40:22] Right now.
[40:23] The way tolls are set up, we
[40:25] actually get the benefit of
[40:26] over 40% of the people paying
[40:27] for it coming from out of
[40:27] state.
[40:29] That's not a tax necessarily on
[40:30] our community.
[40:31] That means everyone.
[40:32] Pays their fair share.
[40:34] If this.
[40:34] Worked, if.
[40:35] >> this were to change to some
[40:36] sort of tax funded alternative
[40:38] ,that means everyone else here
[40:38] in this room.
[40:39] >> is.
[40:40] Paying for it.
[40:41] That's a challenge.
[40:42] And third.
[40:43] I want to.
[40:45] >> be clear this vote today or
[40:46] this vote coming up doesn't
[40:48] really what it does do and what
[40:48] it doesn't do.
[40:50] It doesn't finalize anything.
[40:52] It only keeps our progress
[40:52] moving forward.
[40:54] We have been talking about
[40:56] trying to advance and improve
[40:57] 77 for over 20 years.
[41:00] Now is the time to try to make
[41:01] a stand and make something
[41:01] happen.
[41:04] The work that's been done over
[41:05] that time period has been.
[41:05] >> really.
[41:06] To drive the growth that we're
[41:07] living and seeing every single
[41:07] day.
[41:09] And it's not slowing down so
[41:10] let's not stall it.
[41:11] Let's advance it and keep
[41:11] working.
[41:12] Towards it.
[41:12] Thank you.
[41:14] >> thank you, MR. Rafi.
[41:19] Next speaker is jake freeman.
[41:21] Jake freeman.
[41:31] Good evening, MR. Mayor and.
[41:31] Council members.
[41:33] My name is jake freeman.
[41:34] >> I was born and raised in
[41:35] charlotte and I'm a.
[41:36] Proud graduate.
[41:37] Of west charlotte high school.
[41:39] You'll see.
[41:40] I'm here to speak about the
[41:42] proposed 77 toll lane
[41:42] improvements that are currently
[41:43] on hold.
[41:44] I own a property that's being
[41:46] directly impacted by the
[41:47] proposed improvements being
[41:47] made.
[41:49] At 77 south.
[41:50] We all know that 77 is
[41:51] currently broken.
[41:53] It's getting worse every day
[41:54] and it must be improved.
[41:56] However, council's rescinding
[41:59] support for this project has
[42:00] effectively wiped out the
[42:01] marketability of every property
[42:03] that will be impacted by 77.
[42:05] Improvements because the
[42:05] project's now on hold.
[42:08] No one is willing to purchase
[42:09] property that could be subject
[42:11] to condemnation by ncdot in the
[42:11] future.
[42:14] Furthermore, I have a loan on
[42:15] my property and I'm sure many
[42:16] other property owners in the
[42:19] same situations MAY have loans
[42:21] on their property with a
[42:22] looming condemnation in front
[42:22] of us.
[42:24] Banks are unwilling to
[42:25] refinance properties.
[42:27] We are suffering under this
[42:29] cloud of condemnation because
[42:30] the project was announced then
[42:32] the project was approved and
[42:34] then the improvement plans and
[42:34] subsequent.
[42:36] Property condemnations were
[42:38] initiated with people like me
[42:39] and city council members own
[42:40] words you don't want to kill
[42:42] the project, you just want to
[42:43] change the proposed design.
[42:45] But the design is only 10 to
[42:46] 15% complete.
[42:49] The concerns raised about this
[42:51] project can be addressed as the
[42:53] design progresses through the
[42:54] same public process that
[42:56] produce caps and stitches and
[42:57] community benefits already on
[42:57] the table.
[43:01] By putting this project on
[43:01] hold.
[43:03] City council members are
[43:04] hurting the very communities
[43:05] and residents they hope to
[43:06] protect.
[43:07] There are many property owners
[43:10] and homeowners like me who are
[43:11] now living and working under
[43:13] this cloud of condemnation
[43:14] causing us more and more
[43:16] financial damage every day
[43:18] while we wait for the eventual
[43:18] conclusion.
[43:22] While you delay, we suffer the
[43:24] public with you if you vote to
[43:24] move forward.
[43:26] A JULY poll of charlottes
[43:28] registered voters found that
[43:29] 52% support.
[43:30] Moving ahead with the I-77
[43:31] south expansion.
[43:33] thank you, MR. Freeman.
[43:35] Going into.
[43:35] >> the.
[43:39] Next speaker is damian smith
[43:41] followed by robin and felt just
[43:43] to be prepared.
[43:46] We have socialist.
[43:52] Is a constituent.
[44:01] Good evening council.
[44:03] Many of you already know how I
[44:04] feel about this.
[44:05] You've heard from me plenty
[44:06] over the last year.
[44:09] Now the fact of the matter is
[44:10] is that many of us on the west
[44:12] side we share the concerns
[44:14] about wanting people to be able
[44:15] to get to their homes.
[44:17] We share concerns about
[44:17] congestion.
[44:20] What we've said the entire time
[44:22] is is that the solution that
[44:25] has been proposed does not work
[44:27] and that is supported by the
[44:31] data both economic engineering
[44:33] and it's been shown for the 80
[44:36] plus years that toll lanes and
[44:37] highway expansions don't work.
[44:40] And conservative publications
[44:43] like the economist say that
[44:45] they don't work and that they
[44:48] are a bad use of public dollars
[44:50] even if they are public private
[44:52] partnerships that you should
[44:54] invest in mass transit and
[44:56] alternative transit and
[44:59] providing people freedom and
[45:02] options of how they get to and
[45:04] from their jobs to see their
[45:06] friends, to see their family,
[45:08] to pick up their children from
[45:08] school.
[45:10] And maybe here's a brilliant
[45:11] thought.
[45:14] Allow your kids to be able to
[45:16] walk and bike home from school
[45:19] or take the bus because we
[45:22] provided safe infrastructure
[45:24] because that's how most
[45:26] children got to and from school
[45:27] until the last 30 years.
[45:32] So and those investments for
[45:33] biking infrastructure and
[45:36] things like that have a 10 to
[45:36] 25% tax.
[45:39] Return and by providing
[45:41] residents of rock hill and
[45:43] providing residents from
[45:45] mooresville and from gastonia
[45:47] and from the region other
[45:51] options than getting into a car
[45:52] is what we need.
[45:55] It's what's going to actually
[45:57] address the needs of the
[45:57] region.
[46:00] And as a west.
[46:01] Side resident.
[46:02] >> you MR. Smith?
[46:02] Yes thank you.
[46:03] I.
[46:04] Mean as a west.
[46:05] >> side.
[46:07] We do need investment.
[46:08] MR. Manville.
[46:11] Well.
[46:19] >> in his constituency.
[46:21] Good evening mayor.
[46:23] Uh, members of council, I'm rob
[46:24] denfeld.
[46:24] I'm the.
[46:25] Executive director of the real
[46:25] estate and.
[46:26] Building industry coalition
[46:27] also known as rick.
[46:28] Uh, I'm here.
[46:30] To ask you to reconsider your.
[46:31] Retention of.
[46:32] The.
[46:32] I-77.
[46:34] >> uh, project.
[46:37] Um, I was actually on I-77 on
[46:38] saturday night 6:00 going to
[46:39] visit our.
[46:40] >> our in-laws.
[46:42] And hit two backups on the way
[46:43] south and those the poor folks
[46:44] coming north.
[46:45] Were were.
[46:46] >> in a in a huge back up as
[46:48] you as you reach the south
[46:51] carolina um state line and I
[46:52] will tell you that's a saturday
[46:53] night there.
[46:54] Clearly I.
[46:55] >> think everybody knows
[46:55] something.
[46:56] Has to be done.
[46:58] My request to you is to is to.
[46:59] Reconsider your vote.
[47:00] Because if.
[47:02] >> we do keep this on track, it
[47:03] gives an opportunity for a lot
[47:03] .
[47:03] >> of.
[47:04] The concerns that have been
[47:05] raised during the course of
[47:06] this to be addressed.
[47:08] Uh, there's new money
[47:09] apparently that uh, could be
[47:10] used for benefits.
[47:12] There's also mistakes.
[47:12] >> that.
[47:13] Were made on the northern
[47:14] section that that can be.
[47:15] Reconsidered for the southern
[47:15] section.
[47:17] There is there's caps on tolls
[47:19] and other other benefits that
[47:20] can also be associated with
[47:20] that.
[47:23] So I ask you to to reconsider
[47:24] and and consider moving this
[47:25] forward because in the next
[47:27] month or so if that if a change
[47:28] is.
[47:28] Not made.
[47:30] Then this will eventually come
[47:33] off the state the state uh list
[47:35] of plans for projects and if
[47:37] that once that happens it could
[47:39] be a decade or more before we
[47:40] can we can go forward with this
[47:42] project however it looks.
[47:44] So I'm asking you to get folks
[47:45] back to the table so that we
[47:46] continue to have these.
[47:47] >> discussions.
[47:48] Uh, because if we don't it will
[47:49] be many, many years before this
[47:50] can be this.
[47:50] can be.
[47:52] >> put back on the table so
[47:53] it's obvious a problem.
[47:54] We've got different ideas on
[47:55] how to get to that solution.
[47:57] Get back to the table so you
[47:58] can get to a solution because
[48:00] right now uh that's that's
[48:01] going to be a long ways.
[48:01] >> off if we don't.
[48:03] So thank you for your time.
[48:04] Thank you MR. Pilch.
[48:09] Next speaker is joseph williams
[48:09] .
[48:10] Joseph williams.
[48:12] Is.
[48:13] >> here.
[48:17] And who will be followed by
[48:18] connie proctor.
[48:21] Take your time.
[48:24] Okay.
[48:27] >> I'm so excited.
[48:28] All right.
[48:29] I was.
[48:31] Not expected to get off.
[48:34] The waitlist, so let's.
[48:35] See what's um.
[48:35] After you.
[48:37] Says um.
[48:38] .
[48:39] >> I love your switch.
[48:40] >> really curious about.
[48:41] >> yeah.
[48:41] So I.
[48:43] >> it's not not known I live in
[48:44] the wilmore neighborhood.
[48:44] Um.
[48:45] >> wilmore is.
[48:46] Uh, neighborhood that would.
[48:47] Be drastically.
[48:50] Impacted by the I-77 south
[48:51] project.
[48:52] Um.
[48:53] >> I think some things to
[48:53] consider.
[48:54] >> is.
[48:55] There's 35 plus homes.
[48:55] Um.
[48:57] >> that's 35 neighbors.
[48:58] Who live in charlotte who.
[48:59] aren't sitting.
[48:59] >> on.
[49:00] I-70 seven every day.
[49:01] To get to uptown to get to
[49:02] work.
[49:03] Um.
[49:04] One more is an.
[49:06] Overburdened, uh, neighborhood
[49:06] .
[49:07] Uh, we've been living.
[49:08] Next to the pipe boundary and
[49:09] we've been living next to this.
[49:10] Wonderful thing.
[49:14] I 77 um, north carolina widened
[49:16] it in 1994.
[49:17] Didn't put a nice sound.
[49:19] >> wall in for us even though,
[49:20] uh, it was required.
[49:21] Law says that they.
[49:22] Should have.
[49:24] As a temporary project.
[49:25] We're going to come back to
[49:25] this thing soon.
[49:27] Um, here we are 30 years later.
[49:28] As you guys know, we are still
[49:30] talking about this project.
[49:31] So, um.
[49:33] Really, you know, I think that
[49:33] .
[49:35] Keeping this project rescinded
[49:35] .
[49:35] Uh, no.
[49:37] MR. Hall was going to disagree
[49:38] with me on this one.
[49:39] Um, well, this is a great
[49:40] opportunity to reconnect the
[49:42] corridor and I think we should.
[49:42] >> take advantage of that.
[49:43] And let's.
[49:44] >> pull this thing off the
[49:44] strip.
[49:46] Let's go back to the state with
[49:48] our priorities known.
[49:48] Understand?
[49:50] Uh, council member watlington I
[49:51] love your idea about
[49:52] independent study.
[49:53] Well it's really go back and
[49:55] relook at this project.
[49:56] What makes this successful for
[49:57] charlotte?
[49:58] How do we set up our corridor
[50:00] to be successful for the next
[50:01] 50 years?
[50:03] Not something that just solves
[50:04] a short term problem.
[50:06] Let's make this a long term fix
[50:07] and let's protect our inner
[50:10] city neighborhoods and not
[50:10] bulldoze them.
[50:11] It's not the 60s.
[50:12] It's in the 70s.
[50:15] We can we should do better.
[50:16] We need a better project.
[50:17] We need a better partner, uh,
[50:18] with the state.
[50:21] And I appreciate it.
[50:22] Thank you for the time.
[50:23] Thank you.
[50:25] >> thank you, MR. William.
[50:32] I believe our final speaker
[50:33] will be connie proctor.
[50:34] Uh.
[50:36] >> good evening, mayor and
[50:36] council.
[50:37] My name is connie proctor.
[50:39] I have spoken to you before and
[50:40] asked you to.
[50:41] Envision a better city.
[50:42] A city where people of all ages
[50:43] .
[50:43] >> and.
[50:45] Abilities have mobility
[50:45] choices.
[50:47] A city where children and older
[50:47] adults.
[50:49] Have the autonomous.
[50:50] Mobility they.
[50:51] Need and deserve.
[50:53] Expanding an urban highway is
[50:55] not a way to achieve that
[50:55] vision.
[50:57] Expansion will divert precious
[50:58] resources from achieving it.
[51:00] We like to talk about how we do
[51:02] not want to become atlanta.
[51:04] If we add just ten more acres
[51:05] of highway right of way within
[51:08] a mile of uptown, we will
[51:09] overtake atlanta.
[51:11] we have been chasing quicker.
[51:13] Commutes since the 1950s.
[51:14] We have thrown trillions of
[51:15] dollars at that problem.
[51:17] What do we have to show for it?
[51:19] The same average daily commute
[51:20] time.
[51:22] We live for literally haven't
[51:23] saved a second.
[51:26] I asked you to envision what
[51:27] the general assembly is trying
[51:28] to force us to build.
[51:30] The year is 2086.
[51:32] You were standing in frazier
[51:34] park below the I-77 flyover.
[51:36] The elevated toll lanes are
[51:38] crumbling and they will soon be
[51:40] handed back to by the private
[51:41] toll company to the public for
[51:42] maintenance.
[51:44] Doing nothing is literally not
[51:45] an option because pieces of the
[51:47] lanes are in danger of falling
[51:47] off.
[51:49] Now the choice must be made
[51:50] whether to dismantle or repair
[51:50] them.
[51:54] You are 10 in 2026 you are now
[51:54] 70.
[51:57] You wonder why anyone thought
[51:58] building them was a good idea.
[52:00] They never did reduce traffic.
[52:03] This is not the future I want
[52:04] for either of my children.
[52:06] I urge you to stand firm in
[52:07] your rejection of this plan
[52:09] because not even the full 300
[52:11] million in community benefits
[52:12] can make up for the damage
[52:13] already done to our community.
[52:15] I have said it before.
[52:17] The only way to solve traffic.
[52:18] Is by providing viable
[52:20] alternatives to driving.
[52:22] Let's work to make those viable
[52:24] alternatives possible so we can
[52:26] actually reduce traffic.
[52:26] >> thank you for.
[52:32] Thank you, MISS Proctor.
[52:36] That brings to an end our.
[52:37] public forum.
[52:38] I thank everyone who.
[52:41] Participated including those
[52:42] who had no idea that they would
[52:43] actually make it 12 bucks off.
[52:45] The waiting list.
[52:46] But thanks everyone for
[52:48] participating and thanks for
[52:49] the audience's attention.
[52:51] We're now going to open the
[52:52] public hearing on a resolution
[52:54] to close a portion of brown
[52:55] road.
[52:56] MADAM Clerk, do we have any
[52:57] speakers?
[53:00] Do we have a motion to close
[53:02] the public hearing and to adopt
[53:03] a resolution and closed a
[53:05] portion of brown road?
[53:06] Symbol.
[53:07] >> is there a second?
[53:09] Are there any questions or
[53:10] discussion?
[53:12] Council member mayfield.
[53:14] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[53:15] I have.
[53:17] Said it once before but since
[53:18] our manager is joining.
[53:19] >> us tonight.
[53:20] I am.
[53:21] >> sharing again.
[53:21] That I.
[53:23] Have a.
[53:24] Concern while.
[53:25] >> we.
[53:25] Have both.
[53:26] A public.
[53:28] Hearing opening.
[53:30] As well as an adoption.
[53:32] >> of a resolution to close.
[53:34] Whatever the public hearing.
[53:34] >> is.
[53:35] On on the same.
[53:36] Evening as.
[53:37] >> a, a and b action.
[53:39] If we're open in a public
[53:41] hearing this like a number of
[53:41] other.
[53:42] Items should.
[53:43] Be us.
[53:44] identifying a public.
[53:45] Hearing date.
[53:48] Not for us to open a public
[53:49] hearing and because no one's
[53:52] showed up tonight to have.
[53:56] Action be made to adopt the
[53:58] closing of a portion of brown
[53:58] road.
[53:59] So I.
[54:00] >> want to make sure.
[54:03] That I share the.
[54:03] Concerns that.
[54:04] >> I have.
[54:05] What it seems.
[54:07] Like we're trying to fast track
[54:07] .
[54:08] Certain conversations.
[54:09] Versus going through the.
[54:10] Process of setting.
[54:11] >> a.
[54:11] Public hearing.
[54:12] Date to like.
[54:14] Thank you council member
[54:14] mayfield.
[54:16] I want to defer to the manager
[54:18] and also to the city attorney
[54:19] to the extent there any
[54:21] responses about the process of
[54:22] this particular item?
[54:23] I don't want around it because
[54:24] we might not know.
[54:26] Thank you.
[54:26] >> mayor.
[54:27] Um, council member mayfield,
[54:28] thank you.
[54:28] >> for.
[54:29] The comments.
[54:31] Just as a reminder for the
[54:33] public this item was referred
[54:34] to by our committee and it was
[54:36] taken up today during a special
[54:37] call meeting under the
[54:39] leadership um, of that
[54:40] committee uh chair graham.
[54:42] And at this point the committee
[54:44] will continue to explore the
[54:45] concept and make
[54:46] recommendations back to
[54:46] council.
[54:47] The other thing that.
[54:48] >> I would note about um.
[54:50] The the specific statute that
[54:51] governs this.
[54:52] Uh.
[54:53] >> road closure.
[54:56] There is notice by publication
[54:57] for four consecutive.
[54:58] Weeks ahead.
[55:01] Of the item being placed on the
[55:01] agenda.
[55:03] Uh, and it's by publication and
[55:03] .
[55:04] In the local newspaper.
[55:06] And so just for transparency to
[55:08] the public, uh, those notices
[55:09] are made available so that
[55:11] people can be aware of the
[55:12] public hearings that are being
[55:13] scheduled for consecutive weeks
[55:13] in advance.
[55:16] Council member.
[55:17] MAY I can.
[55:17] >> she.
[55:18] Repeat that?
[55:19] I was just going to.
[55:21] Say yes.
[55:22] You said would.
[55:23] >> you.
[55:23] Say.
[55:23] About four weeks.
[55:25] The door is still open so we're
[55:26] not able to hear you as clear.
[55:28] Sure.
[55:29] >> this particular.
[55:31] Section this particular.
[55:33] Statute requires.
[55:34] Publication in the newspaper.
[55:35] For consecutive.
[55:37] Weeks ahead of it being placed
[55:38] on the agenda.
[55:40] And so that is another
[55:41] opportunity for the public to
[55:44] be made aware of the matter
[55:45] being on council's.
[55:46] Agenda ahead of time.
[55:46] So that.
[55:48] Council member mayor.
[55:50] Oh I was just going to
[55:52] acknowledge what the attorney
[55:54] said before she said that that.
[55:55] >> is something.
[55:55] That um.
[55:57] The bigger committee chatted
[56:00] about today in our meeting and
[56:01] will be talking more about in
[56:01] SEPTEMBER.
[56:03] So thank you for continuing to
[56:04] raise that concern so that we
[56:05] can address that.
[56:06] .
[56:07] Council member mayfield.
[56:10] Thank you, mayor for a follow
[56:12] up and I appreciate the fact
[56:12] that.
[56:13] Bgr are had.
[56:14] >> an additional meeting to
[56:15] have this discussion.
[56:19] I wanted to be very clear that
[56:20] what I am suggesting.
[56:21] Is that we have a.
[56:24] Hearing date separate from the
[56:24] decision.
[56:26] I don't even know how many
[56:28] people actually report actually
[56:29] has a subscription to a
[56:31] newspaper today.
[56:31] So to.
[56:34] Say that we.
[56:36] Have the information posted in
[56:37] the paper is the equivalent of
[56:39] someone getting a divorce today
[56:41] and putting it into the paper
[56:42] they have got to worry about
[56:43] that person challenging it.
[56:45] So we use social media for
[56:46] other things.
[56:48] I'm asking for a clear just
[56:50] like we have other items where.
[56:51] >> we are setting a.
[56:52] Hearing date to.
[56:53] Just be.
[56:56] Consistent, set a hearing date.
[56:57] And not just.
[57:01] Say well we have listed it in
[57:03] newspaper when newspaper is not
[57:06] the main form of communication
[57:08] for a lot of residents today.
[57:10] And we can see that by the.
[57:12] Fact that unfortunately we just
[57:13] had another one of our local.
[57:15] channels closed down.
[57:19] So I would just like for us to
[57:20] be clear that what I'm asking
[57:22] for is a separation of a
[57:25] hearing day and then later I
[57:27] actual decision on that so that
[57:29] those who are able to watch us
[57:31] online or attend the process
[57:32] also know that this information
[57:33] is happening in their
[57:34] neighborhoods.
[57:35] Council member graham.
[57:37] Uh thank you, MR. Mayor.
[57:40] Um, again um we had that
[57:40] conversation today.
[57:41] I chair the committee.
[57:43] Uh, we look at the wide variety
[57:46] of options not wanting to
[57:47] debate the committee meeting
[57:48] right now.
[57:50] Um, but your point has been
[57:52] taken and is under
[57:54] consideration in terms of how
[57:54] we move forward.
[57:57] Uh, or if we move forward.
[57:58] So it's still up for debate.
[57:59] Council member johnson.
[58:01] Thank you.
[58:03] >> MR. Mayor.
[58:05] So this item.
[58:06] Went to the committee to
[58:08] discuss potential.
[58:09] Improvement or.
[58:10] Change to the policy.
[58:11] >> is that correct?
[58:13] So just just to be clear, I
[58:15] think the item that went to the
[58:17] committee is an overall item,
[58:18] not the particular motion
[58:20] that's on the table for tonight
[58:20] .
[58:20] Right.
[58:22] There is a it sounds like
[58:23] there's a discussion to be had
[58:26] in committee about process but
[58:28] that's not in the motion that's
[58:28] for tonight.
[58:30] Just make that clarification.
[58:32] So council.
[58:32] >> member.
[58:33] mayfield you.
[58:34] >> brought this up at least.
[58:35] 2 or.
[58:36] >> 3 meetings.
[58:36] I would.
[58:38] >> think that we would hold.
[58:39] Off on.
[58:41] Moving forward with that
[58:42] current process if we're
[58:43] debating potential.
[58:44] Improvement.
[58:48] >> any other discussion?
[58:51] I, I again we are looking at
[58:53] the process question and
[58:53] committee.
[58:56] Um one council member brought
[58:57] it forward.
[58:59] The committee is discussing it
[59:01] to see if it's appropriate if
[59:03] any changes will will be made
[59:04] at all.
[59:06] The committee is still
[59:07] discussing it so it's still on
[59:07] the table.
[59:08] >> all right.
[59:09] Any council members who have
[59:10] not been hurt I just want to
[59:11] make sure that there are other
[59:13] council members that have been
[59:14] heard because I think we're
[59:16] sort of debating process
[59:17] instead of this.
[59:18] Particular motion.
[59:18] My question.
[59:20] But let me let me come to
[59:21] council member mirror and I'll
[59:22] come back if there are other
[59:23] council members who have not
[59:23] been heard.
[59:24] Don't to speak.
[59:24] Yes.
[59:25] >> thank you.
[59:25] Mayor.
[59:27] Mayor harrington so council
[59:29] member johnson, just so that I
[59:30] understand your question, why
[59:33] are we sticking with the
[59:35] existing process if the
[59:36] conversation is in the bigger
[59:36] committee?
[59:38] so from what I understood.
[59:41] From the attorney is that until
[59:42] the new process is adopted we
[59:44] have to continue with the
[59:44] existing process.
[59:45] Am I correct?
[59:46] That's correct.
[59:51] So I know that this is going to
[59:52] be coming in front of the
[59:54] bigger committee for a follow
[59:57] up next month and this month
[59:58] the bpr committee had two
[1:00:00] meetings to and this was number
[1:00:00] .
[1:00:02] Second item on our agenda
[1:00:04] tonight to today earlier today.
[1:00:07] They're being prioritized to
[1:00:07] your question.
[1:00:10] Any other council members who
[1:00:12] would like to be heard who have
[1:00:12] not been heard?
[1:00:14] Okay.
[1:00:16] There is a motion and a second
[1:00:19] we've had discussion all in
[1:00:20] favor of the.
[1:00:21] >> point of order.
[1:00:22] That was a follow.
[1:00:22] >> up.
[1:00:23] .
[1:00:23] >> point of order.
[1:00:24] Are we.
[1:00:26] >> not able to seek
[1:00:27] clarification or follow up.
[1:00:28] On our question?
[1:00:29] You can.
[1:00:31] >> seek clarification follow up
[1:00:32] on the question but we're still
[1:00:33] going to at some point call the
[1:00:34] question on this particular
[1:00:35] motion.
[1:00:37] So one more round of questions
[1:00:39] on your question about process
[1:00:41] and then we should move on with
[1:00:41] the believe with the motion.
[1:00:43] But if there's a question.
[1:00:44] Thank you.
[1:00:46] >> so the last couple last.
[1:00:47] >> month if.
[1:00:49] I'm correct we deferred.
[1:00:51] Didn't we deferred because we
[1:00:52] there was more than just one
[1:00:53] council member who.
[1:00:53] >> was.
[1:00:54] Concerned about it.
[1:00:56] So is this some process that we
[1:00:57] have to move forward on or was
[1:00:59] this a choice to put this on
[1:01:00] the agenda because if it's if
[1:01:03] it's in the committee and we're
[1:01:05] looking at improving a process
[1:01:05] or.
[1:01:05] Changing a.
[1:01:06] Process.
[1:01:06] .
[1:01:09] I would ask or hope that we
[1:01:10] kind of hold off.
[1:01:12] Until then because.
[1:01:14] >> all we're doing is just
[1:01:14] taking a deeper.
[1:01:16] Hole or doing things opposite
[1:01:18] of what the council is desiring
[1:01:19] to do.
[1:01:21] Is there a motion to defer this
[1:01:23] motion or any other ancillary
[1:01:23] motion to this motion?
[1:01:24] >> I mean I can.
[1:01:25] Make a motion to defer this.
[1:01:29] There motion.
[1:01:29] Yes.
[1:01:30] >> thank you.
[1:01:31] >> okay.
[1:01:31] >> so there's.
[1:01:32] >> a motion on.
[1:01:32] >> the.
[1:01:34] Floor I believe the youth
[1:01:35] commission to close the public
[1:01:36] hearing.
[1:01:39] But close the public hearing on
[1:01:40] this and then move to the
[1:01:40] discussion.
[1:01:40] Yes.
[1:01:42] >> is there a motion to close
[1:01:42] the public hearing?
[1:01:43] So you.
[1:01:44] >> have a motion.
[1:01:45] >> you have a second.
[1:01:47] Second we're going to come back
[1:01:47] to have.
[1:01:48] >> a question of clarification
[1:01:48] .
[1:01:50] the way this is presented it is
[1:01:54] presented as a and b as a close
[1:01:58] b is a is to close the public
[1:02:02] hearing b is to adopt the
[1:02:02] resolution.
[1:02:05] I do not understand how we are
[1:02:06] attempting to close the public
[1:02:08] hearing when you still have b
[1:02:10] on this item, which is what
[1:02:12] triggered the entire my
[1:02:14] original question because the
[1:02:16] close the public hearing is by
[1:02:20] default adopting a and b a to
[1:02:22] close the public hearing and b
[1:02:24] to adopt the resolution to
[1:02:26] close the actual portion of the
[1:02:26] street.
[1:02:27] So please clarify.
[1:02:29] >> so we could entertain a
[1:02:31] substitute motion simply to
[1:02:32] approve a to close the public
[1:02:34] hearing and move on from there
[1:02:35] and then have the discussion on
[1:02:35] the substantive motion.
[1:02:38] Is there a motion to close the
[1:02:38] public hearing?
[1:02:41] Close?
[1:02:43] >> I make a motion to close the
[1:02:45] public hearing just the second
[1:02:45] .
[1:02:46] A second.
[1:02:46] Is there.
[1:02:47] >> a second.
[1:02:48] Kimberly.
[1:02:49] >> any further discussion on
[1:02:50] closing the public hearing so
[1:02:52] we can go on to the discussion
[1:02:53] of b okay.
[1:02:54] All in favor?
[1:02:55] Any opposed?
[1:02:57] Okay.
[1:02:59] Now is there a separate motion
[1:03:02] to adopt to uh approve the
[1:03:02] motion itself.
[1:03:04] To defer.
[1:03:06] Is there is there a separate.
[1:03:09] We do not we do not have a
[1:03:09] motion yet.
[1:03:11] So is so there is a motion and
[1:03:12] a second to adopt the
[1:03:13] resolution deferral.
[1:03:16] >> to defer to debate adopt the
[1:03:17] resolution to close a portion
[1:03:19] moved to defer the adoption
[1:03:20] which is b okay.
[1:03:21] All in favor.
[1:03:22] Any discussion of that?
[1:03:26] Council member.
[1:03:27] >> elliott if I MAY.
[1:03:27] >> thank you mayor.
[1:03:28] Um, if I could ask.
[1:03:29] >> the.
[1:03:29] City attorney.
[1:03:30] >> the way.
[1:03:32] I had understood um, in our
[1:03:33] conversations earlier today.
[1:03:33] This was.
[1:03:34] Something that.
[1:03:36] >> was brought by a resident.
[1:03:36] Is that.
[1:03:37] >> correct how.
[1:03:38] >> this particular motion.
[1:03:39] >> came forward?
[1:03:39] >> can you describe.
[1:03:40] >> that to.
[1:03:40] Council, how we.
[1:03:42] >> got where we are and what.
[1:03:43] This particular motion is?
[1:03:43] Sure.
[1:03:44] >> so the property.
[1:03:47] Owner has requested.
[1:03:48] To close.
[1:03:49] >> a.
[1:03:50] Portion of the of the driveway
[1:03:50] .
[1:03:53] And or the we on a drive.
[1:03:53] We we.
[1:03:55] >> on a avenue excuse me.
[1:03:56] And notified.
[1:03:58] The adjacent property.
[1:03:59] Owners to see if.
[1:03:59] >> there.
[1:04:00] Was opposition.
[1:04:01] Apparently there was no
[1:04:01] opposition and.
[1:04:03] So this is the property owners.
[1:04:05] Request and it has not been
[1:04:05] challenged.
[1:04:07] So mayor, if I MAY.
[1:04:09] I will not be supporting.
[1:04:10] a motion to defer.
[1:04:11] >> because I find it
[1:04:11] inefficient to do.
[1:04:12] So in.
[1:04:13] >> circumstances such.
[1:04:14] >> as have.
[1:04:14] >> been.
[1:04:15] Described as I understand this
[1:04:15] motion.
[1:04:17] It is ripe for determination on
[1:04:18] this evening even.
[1:04:19] Though we.
[1:04:19] >> have.
[1:04:20] Had the public.
[1:04:21] Hearing in the.
[1:04:22] Same context.
[1:04:22] >> of the.
[1:04:23] Meeting, I think that this is
[1:04:23] a.
[1:04:25] Is ripe situation.
[1:04:26] Council member.
[1:04:26] As mayor.
[1:04:27] Yes.
[1:04:29] >> so MADAM.
[1:04:32] Attorney gave us legal guidance
[1:04:34] earlier today at the committee
[1:04:34] meeting.
[1:04:36] So what I'm concerned about is
[1:04:38] if we impose a.
[1:04:40] Different process and take it
[1:04:42] out when we have not adopted a
[1:04:44] new process, I'm concerned
[1:04:45] about the legal challenge.
[1:04:47] So MADAM Attorney, if you could
[1:04:49] speak to that and.
[1:04:53] Certainly has council member
[1:04:55] engineer at 168 to.
[1:04:56] >> 99 does provide.
[1:04:57] An appeal.
[1:05:00] Mechanism to superior court.
[1:05:01] For the decision.
[1:05:02] Any decision is made by.
[1:05:03] Council concerning.
[1:05:06] Concerning one of these public
[1:05:07] hearings and.
[1:05:08] Uh at this point without.
[1:05:09] Opposition there could be.
[1:05:11] >> it could be opposition to
[1:05:11] that.
[1:05:14] Be appeal to the court.
[1:05:16] that's all I have.
[1:05:16] Okay.
[1:05:18] >> is there any further council
[1:05:19] member graham on the motion to.
[1:05:21] Defer and I'll be I'll be
[1:05:23] voting against that as well.
[1:05:25] And I think councilor, if you
[1:05:27] would allow the committee to
[1:05:28] process the request that you
[1:05:29] made.
[1:05:31] And we don't know what the
[1:05:32] committee is going to recommend
[1:05:32] .
[1:05:34] We don't know what the council
[1:05:36] will eventually vote on what we
[1:05:38] have done to start a discussion
[1:05:39] and we have to keep the rules
[1:05:42] as they are today and they MAY
[1:05:43] or MAY not change tomorrow.
[1:05:45] So I think we need to.
[1:05:46] Plow forward.
[1:05:48] And allow the council and the
[1:05:49] committee the process to work
[1:05:50] with you.
[1:05:51] Access to do it is not ready.
[1:05:53] It's been prioritized.
[1:05:55] We'll be talking about it again
[1:05:56] in two weeks.
[1:05:56] I think.
[1:05:57] >> we need to move on.
[1:05:59] We're having a debate about
[1:06:00] having a debate.
[1:06:02] And we have a motion on the
[1:06:05] floor to defer the motion to uh
[1:06:06] uh, adopt the resolution and
[1:06:08] close a portion of pete brown
[1:06:08] road.
[1:06:10] That's item four in the agenda
[1:06:10] .
[1:06:13] All in favor of the motion to
[1:06:13] defer?
[1:06:15] Please raise your hand.
[1:06:17] All opposed?
[1:06:21] MR. Mayor, I move to approve.
[1:06:22] B second.
[1:06:23] Just just for the record, the.
[1:06:25] Motion to defer failed.
[1:06:28] Uh, the motion to approve adopt
[1:06:29] the resolution now.
[1:06:30] >> is there a second?
[1:06:30] second.
[1:06:31] >> okay.
[1:06:32] >> uh, it's.
[1:06:33] Further discussion.
[1:06:35] All right, all in favor raise
[1:06:35] your hand.
[1:06:40] All against.
[1:06:41] All right.
[1:06:44] >> the motion, uh, be to
[1:06:46] approve the, um, resolution
[1:06:48] regarding a closing of a
[1:06:49] portion of pete brown road has
[1:06:49] .
[1:06:50] Passed.
[1:06:53] >> okay, that brings us to
[1:06:54] public hearing and decision on
[1:06:56] resolution to close a portion
[1:06:57] of we honore avenue.
[1:06:59] We're now going to open the
[1:07:01] public hearing on a resolution
[1:07:03] to close a portion of we honor
[1:07:03] avenue.
[1:07:04] MADAM Clerk, do we have any
[1:07:05] speakers on this public
[1:07:06] hearing?
[1:07:08] Is there a motion to close the
[1:07:08] public hearing?
[1:07:09] >> I'm to do that separately
[1:07:10] this time.
[1:07:11] Is there a motion to close the
[1:07:11] public hearing?
[1:07:11] So move.
[1:07:12] >> there a second.
[1:07:14] Any discussion?
[1:07:15] All in favor raise your hand.
[1:07:19] Any opposed to closing the
[1:07:21] public hearing, please raise
[1:07:21] your hand.
[1:07:22] All right.
[1:07:23] That passes unanimously.
[1:07:24] No.
[1:07:26] No one's.
[1:07:26] Not unanimous.
[1:07:27] Maybe mayfield.
[1:07:28] >> was again.
[1:07:28] Was that just a or all of it?
[1:07:28] No.
[1:07:30] >> this was just to close the
[1:07:30] public hearing.
[1:07:31] Um.
[1:07:31] .
[1:07:32] So.
[1:07:33] Councilmember johnson, your
[1:07:33] vote is in favor.
[1:07:35] Yes we can.
[1:07:36] So unanimous to close the
[1:07:36] public hearing.
[1:07:37] Is there now?
[1:07:40] Is there now a motion to adopt
[1:07:41] the resolution to close a.
[1:07:42] Portion of we on.
[1:07:44] >> a road as described in
[1:07:44] paragraph five?
[1:07:46] Moved to adopt.
[1:07:47] >> is there a second?
[1:07:47] Okay.
[1:07:49] >> uh, any further discussion
[1:07:50] there?
[1:07:51] Okay.
[1:07:54] >> all in favor of adopting the
[1:07:54] resolution and closed a
[1:07:55] portion.
[1:07:56] >> of we on a road as.
[1:07:59] Described further in item five
[1:08:00] on the agenda.
[1:08:00] Please raise your hand.
[1:08:02] Any opposed?
[1:08:04] All right.
[1:08:06] The ayes have it and that has
[1:08:06] passed.
[1:08:09] And that brings us to the city
[1:08:10] manager's report.
[1:08:11] So policy.
[1:08:13] Thank you.
[1:08:13] >> uh.
[1:08:14] Mayor members of.
[1:08:15] Council as.
[1:08:16] We, um.
[1:08:18] Discussed previously.
[1:08:21] We have, uh, the police chief
[1:08:24] here today to utilize the time
[1:08:25] for the manager's report to
[1:08:27] give you an update on the youth
[1:08:27] protection ordinance.
[1:08:31] Um, with no action, just more
[1:08:31] information.
[1:08:32] Um, answering.
[1:08:33] Some of the questions.
[1:08:34] That you provided.
[1:08:37] And, mayor, before I turn it
[1:08:38] over to, um.
[1:08:40] Our police chief, um.
[1:08:42] There is something that the
[1:08:44] mayor pro tem would like to
[1:08:45] provide.
[1:08:46] For yours.
[1:08:47] Okay.
[1:08:48] >> uh.
[1:08:49] Thank you, city manager.
[1:08:50] Thank you, mayor and council.
[1:08:51] Uh.
[1:08:54] >> we have one of our deputy
[1:08:56] city managers who after so many
[1:08:58] years has finally decide she's
[1:08:59] going to start another career.
[1:09:01] Uh, this young lady has made.
[1:09:04] Me a better public servant over
[1:09:05] the years.
[1:09:06] And in.
[1:09:07] >> particularly, uh.
[1:09:09] >> council we had to stand up,
[1:09:09] attempt.
[1:09:12] To process uh, with COUNCILMAN
[1:09:14] Mayfield, councilmember driggs
[1:09:15] and this young lady worked.
[1:09:17] Bristly to make sure that we
[1:09:19] had a process in place that we
[1:09:20] can select that candidates.
[1:09:22] And so I would like to have us
[1:09:25] give a special recognition to
[1:09:26] deputy city manager liz bass
[1:09:27] and for your outstanding.
[1:09:31] Leadership dedication to make
[1:09:32] charlotte a better city.
[1:09:33] Liz.
[1:09:56] I.
[1:09:59] >> is some of the time you
[1:10:00] disappear.
[1:10:01] Johnson and probably.
[1:10:07] How are we.
[1:10:07] Going to MISS You?
[1:10:11] I'm going to MISS You come down
[1:10:12] the hall singing.
[1:10:29] Some jokes we.
[1:10:38] Might.
[1:10:41] Uh.
[1:10:43] Okay okay.
[1:10:50] Oh oh.
[1:10:52] She's.
[1:10:57] Asking me.
[1:11:02] i'm.
[1:11:06] Good evening, mayor.
[1:11:07] And members of.
[1:11:07] Council as.
[1:11:08] >> we.
[1:11:09] Continue this.
[1:11:10] >> conversation concerning the.
[1:11:11] Youth protection ordinance.
[1:11:12] I wanted.
[1:11:13] To be sure to.
[1:11:14] Address the.
[1:11:15] Questions you.
[1:11:15] >> raised.
[1:11:16] At our.
[1:11:16] Lives council.
[1:11:17] Meeting on AUGUST.
[1:11:18] >> 10th and also to.
[1:11:20] Highlight a few points and
[1:11:20] provide some.
[1:11:22] Updates concerning this
[1:11:22] ordinance.
[1:11:23] I have been listening
[1:11:24] tentatively.
[1:11:25] To the comments.
[1:11:27] Today and even those.
[1:11:27] >> that have.
[1:11:27] Been.
[1:11:28] Brought to me by.
[1:11:29] >> other community members and
[1:11:29] we want to be.
[1:11:30] Sensitive to.
[1:11:31] That because we.
[1:11:31] >> know.
[1:11:32] That there is concern.
[1:11:32] >> on.
[1:11:33] Both sides.
[1:11:34] And so in.
[1:11:35] >> our last meeting since our
[1:11:36] last.
[1:11:37] Meeting I should say I had a.
[1:11:39] Meeting with seven civic.
[1:11:40] And community leaders along
[1:11:41] with a number of residents who.
[1:11:43] >> have had general questions.
[1:11:43] >> as well.
[1:11:44] So I'd.
[1:11:45] >> like to share some of them
[1:11:45] with you.
[1:11:46] >> I'd like to start.
[1:11:46] >> off by.
[1:11:47] saying first and foremost we
[1:11:49] have gotten the question
[1:11:49] repeatedly.
[1:11:50] What are we.
[1:11:50] >> trying.
[1:11:51] To solve or.
[1:11:51] >> what.
[1:11:51] Are we.
[1:11:52] >> were trying to do with this
[1:11:52] ordinance?
[1:11:53] >> I will tell you very.
[1:11:54] Plainly that we are.
[1:11:55] Trying to reduce.
[1:11:56] The number of teen takeover
[1:11:59] events where there is crime,
[1:12:00] where there is property damage
[1:12:02] and where we have seen harm to
[1:12:02] the community.
[1:12:04] We want to make sure that we
[1:12:06] are also being cognizant of
[1:12:07] victimization of our young
[1:12:07] people.
[1:12:09] We want to minimize that as
[1:12:10] much as possible.
[1:12:12] Now we know that an ordinance
[1:12:15] is not the save all be all in
[1:12:16] doing that we know that there
[1:12:16] still is.
[1:12:17] >> going to.
[1:12:17] Be victimization.
[1:12:18] We know they're still going to
[1:12:20] be victimizing but we want to
[1:12:21] mitigate it as much as
[1:12:21] possible.
[1:12:24] And so this ordinance gives us
[1:12:25] or this modification to the
[1:12:26] ordinance gives us one more
[1:12:27] tool.
[1:12:29] For law enforcement to be able
[1:12:31] to create safe spaces for our
[1:12:33] youth and also prevent or
[1:12:35] reduce victimization.
[1:12:37] I want to reiterate what I've
[1:12:38] heard repeatedly and even
[1:12:40] tonight that this ordinance
[1:12:42] change or modification is not
[1:12:43] intended.
[1:12:44] To criminalize our youth.
[1:12:46] We do not want to create
[1:12:48] pipelines to prisons or where
[1:12:49] our youth are just doing things
[1:12:52] that youth do and be subject to
[1:12:54] the criminal justice system.
[1:12:55] In fact, in a little bit I'm
[1:12:56] going to ask attorney battle if
[1:12:58] she will talk about the process
[1:13:01] if someone is in um if cited
[1:13:04] for youth violation under this
[1:13:05] ordinance.
[1:13:06] Also too.
[1:13:08] With the implementation of this
[1:13:10] ordinance if passed one of the
[1:13:11] things we want to do is make
[1:13:12] sure that we're working very
[1:13:12] closely with.
[1:13:13] Community partners.
[1:13:14] I've already.
[1:13:15] Started those conversations.
[1:13:17] Cmpd has always been.
[1:13:18] >> good about working.
[1:13:19] With the community and
[1:13:20] different groups in that regard
[1:13:21] .
[1:13:23] Next slide please.
[1:13:26] So there are a couple things
[1:13:27] or.
[1:13:27] >> do.
[1:13:27] I have.
[1:13:28] >> it here?
[1:13:28] I'm sorry.
[1:13:30] Here we go.
[1:13:32] So a couple things.
[1:13:32] >> I.
[1:13:32] Just.
[1:13:32] Want to.
[1:13:34] >> reiterate and highlight to
[1:13:35] you is first the recommendation
[1:13:37] the overall recommendation is
[1:13:37] that we.
[1:13:38] Modify the curfew.
[1:13:40] Curfew age to include all
[1:13:43] minors 17 and younger and also
[1:13:45] to that the time will be 9 P.M.
[1:13:46] Every day of the week.
[1:13:48] Also to.
[1:13:49] >> a lot of conversation has
[1:13:51] been had about the exceptions
[1:13:52] or the exceptions.
[1:13:53] Many people have stated that
[1:13:55] this is a blanket curfew, that
[1:13:57] there are no exceptions.
[1:13:58] We want to be clear that they
[1:13:59] are.
[1:14:00] We spoke of this last time but
[1:14:02] I think it's worth mentioning
[1:14:03] again especially with cms
[1:14:05] schools starting on tomorrow.
[1:14:06] It is important that we
[1:14:08] understand that youth who are
[1:14:09] going to and from football
[1:14:11] games or other sanctioned youth
[1:14:14] events by schools, religious or
[1:14:15] recreational events that are
[1:14:16] accompanied by an adult or that
[1:14:18] are supervised by an adult.
[1:14:20] Those individuals will be okay.
[1:14:22] They will not be subject to the
[1:14:23] curfew.
[1:14:24] Um additionally, those who are
[1:14:26] running errands by their
[1:14:28] parents or their guardians at
[1:14:29] their direction they will not
[1:14:31] be subject to the curfew.
[1:14:32] Will this mean that an officer
[1:14:34] MAY not stop this person or
[1:14:35] talk to him?
[1:14:36] >> of course not.
[1:14:36] >> what?
[1:14:37] We want to make sure that the
[1:14:37] youth is safe.
[1:14:39] However we will not be taking
[1:14:41] that youth into custody or such
[1:14:43] or doing a juvenile arrest.
[1:14:45] Additionally exceptions exist
[1:14:47] if there is an emergency also
[1:14:49] too if that youth is traveling
[1:14:50] to and from work.
[1:14:53] One of the things that we
[1:14:54] really I have got conversations
[1:14:55] about.
[1:14:55] >> or I've gotten.
[1:14:57] Questions about is concerning a
[1:14:59] 17 year old who is in college.
[1:15:01] I want to reiterate again we
[1:15:02] understand that individuals
[1:15:04] like that are in school.
[1:15:05] They're doing the right thing.
[1:15:06] We are not.
[1:15:08] Going to have a curfew police
[1:15:09] we're not going to have our
[1:15:10] officers patrolling the streets
[1:15:13] of charlotte looking for
[1:15:14] individuals and trying to
[1:15:15] determine their ages so that we
[1:15:16] can do a juvenile arrest or
[1:15:18] that we can take them into
[1:15:18] custody.
[1:15:20] That is not the intent of this.
[1:15:22] Again, we are trying to have a
[1:15:24] tool that when we have teen
[1:15:25] takeovers we have these mass.
[1:15:26] Gatherings.
[1:15:27] >> we're able to address them
[1:15:29] effectively and in a way that
[1:15:31] prevents harm to our youth.
[1:15:34] One other question I wanted to
[1:15:35] make sure that we were
[1:15:37] addressing and to update you is
[1:15:38] concerning some of the studies
[1:15:40] related to curfew.
[1:15:43] In the document that you should
[1:15:44] have received we outlined some
[1:15:46] studies in there we found where
[1:15:47] there were three studies in
[1:15:49] support of positive impacts.
[1:15:50] For curfews.
[1:15:52] There were four that were.
[1:15:53] Mixed impacts.
[1:15:55] And certainly I know that
[1:15:57] people have found studies that
[1:15:59] suggest that curfews are not
[1:16:00] effective.
[1:16:02] What I would say is that many
[1:16:04] of the studies that have been
[1:16:05] used or we have looked at.
[1:16:06] Are not.
[1:16:07] >> current studies.
[1:16:08] They they.
[1:16:10] >> do not address the issue of
[1:16:11] teen takeovers which we have
[1:16:13] seen is a phenomenon that's new
[1:16:14] that we have seen probably in
[1:16:15] the last year year and a.
[1:16:16] Half um.
[1:16:17] Mainly this.
[1:16:18] >> year that we have seen in
[1:16:19] charlotte.
[1:16:20] So because of.
[1:16:22] That I will suggest that we
[1:16:23] look very closely at our data
[1:16:25] that we would move forward with
[1:16:26] this so that we can.
[1:16:27] Gain data, we can.
[1:16:29] Work with some of our local
[1:16:31] universities to be able to
[1:16:33] capture the proper data for our
[1:16:35] community and then we can know
[1:16:36] whether or not this is
[1:16:36] something that is effective,
[1:16:38] that is meaningful for.
[1:16:39] Our community.
[1:16:44] One other area that we wanted
[1:16:46] to address and one of the main
[1:16:47] reasons for the modification
[1:16:48] that we're looking at.
[1:16:50] Is because we want to reduce or
[1:16:52] prevent the victimization of
[1:16:52] our youth.
[1:16:54] I believe that was doctor
[1:16:55] watlington in the last meeting
[1:16:56] asked us if we could break out
[1:16:58] the youth victimization numbers
[1:17:00] to show the different time
[1:17:01] frames and so we were able to
[1:17:03] do that so that you can see
[1:17:06] that particularly at nighttime
[1:17:07] out outdoor juvenile
[1:17:09] victimization is still driven
[1:17:11] primarily by firearm and
[1:17:12] aggravated assaults.
[1:17:13] When we look at the charts you
[1:17:15] can see in the different time
[1:17:15] frames.
[1:17:19] So from 9 P.M. To 5:59 A.M. We
[1:17:21] saw an overall 431 victims.
[1:17:24] Of crime in our community.
[1:17:26] This is youth that are outside
[1:17:28] or in those open spaces.
[1:17:29] If you look at that also too,
[1:17:31] we see that the age of 16 to 17
[1:17:34] was roughly 30% and the
[1:17:36] majority were 80 or assault
[1:17:38] with gun cases or victims.
[1:17:39] Um.
[1:17:40] >> also to looking at the
[1:17:44] demographics 91% were youth of
[1:17:44] color.
[1:17:47] We broke it out between 10.
[1:17:47] >> and 5.
[1:17:50] 5:59 P.M. Or 6 A.M. And you can
[1:17:51] look at the numbers there they
[1:17:53] go down slightly but we still
[1:17:54] see victimization happening
[1:17:55] throughout those hours and
[1:17:57] throughout the early mornings.
[1:18:00] The percentage of our brown and
[1:18:02] black youth that are victimized
[1:18:05] is still in the 90s, which is
[1:18:06] concerning to all of us.
[1:18:08] Having raised two
[1:18:09] african-american males in my
[1:18:10] household, that was always a
[1:18:12] concern that they would be a
[1:18:14] victim of crime or that they
[1:18:15] would be out doing something
[1:18:16] innocently and end up hurt.
[1:18:19] So it is a concern not only for
[1:18:20] me but I know it is for many
[1:18:21] parents and.
[1:18:24] Those in our community.
[1:18:29] One other area an update I want
[1:18:30] to provide is speaking to
[1:18:31] community members.
[1:18:34] The question arose repeatedly
[1:18:35] concerning juvenile arrests.
[1:18:38] What does it mean if we enforce
[1:18:40] this ordinance?
[1:18:42] What does it mean for our youth
[1:18:43] particularly?
[1:18:44] Does it mean that they are
[1:18:45] going to be arrested?
[1:18:46] They're going to be placed in
[1:18:46] handcuffs.
[1:18:47] Do they go through the criminal
[1:18:49] justice system?
[1:18:50] There's a lot of conversation
[1:18:51] even tonight that we're
[1:18:52] criminalizing our young people
[1:18:52] .
[1:18:52] We want.
[1:18:53] >> to.
[1:18:54] Be very clear that that.
[1:18:54] >> is.
[1:18:56] Not what happens necessarily.
[1:18:57] And I'm going to ask attorney
[1:18:59] jessica battle to come forward
[1:19:00] to talk a little bit more.
[1:19:01] But I do want to emphasize the
[1:19:04] point that with a juvenile
[1:19:05] arrest most of the times those
[1:19:06] youth are.
[1:19:08] Returned to their families.
[1:19:09] We call their parents their
[1:19:10] guardians.
[1:19:11] They come and they take
[1:19:12] possession of that youth.
[1:19:14] At no time are they going
[1:19:15] through the sheriff department
[1:19:16] or going to the jail or
[1:19:18] anything like that and there's
[1:19:20] instances in which there are
[1:19:22] criminal activity that occurs
[1:19:23] that necessitate necessitates
[1:19:25] them being in the criminal
[1:19:26] justice system.
[1:19:27] But the majority of these
[1:19:30] juvenile cases of curfew are.
[1:19:30] Not what.
[1:19:31] We're finding.
[1:19:32] So when I'm.
[1:19:33] Asked just.
[1:19:34] >> gives you a come forward to
[1:19:34] talk about just a.
[1:19:34] >> little.
[1:19:35] Bit more.
[1:19:35] >> about the.
[1:19:37] Process so that we can
[1:19:38] understand that a.
[1:19:38] >> little bit better.
[1:19:41] Thank you ma'am.
[1:19:43] Good evening jessica battle
[1:19:44] with the city.
[1:19:45] Attorney's office.
[1:19:46] As chief.
[1:19:48] Stated, if there is probable.
[1:19:49] Cause to charge a juvenile
[1:19:50] with.
[1:19:51] A violation.
[1:19:52] >> of a.
[1:19:52] Curfew or any.
[1:19:53] Particular charge.
[1:19:54] Officers would have to.
[1:19:56] Make an on-scene.
[1:19:56] Decision about.
[1:19:57] Whether or not they were.
[1:19:58] Going to.
[1:20:00] >> charge that juvenile.
[1:20:01] They look at.
[1:20:01] >> many.
[1:20:02] Different factors including.
[1:20:03] >> the severity of the.
[1:20:04] Crime.
[1:20:06] >> the juveniles behavior on
[1:20:06] that.
[1:20:07] Particular encounter.
[1:20:08] And also their.
[1:20:10] Full juvenile history of any
[1:20:12] charges, investigations or
[1:20:12] arrests.
[1:20:13] One of.
[1:20:15] >> the first factors that.
[1:20:16] Officers will.
[1:20:18] Consider after they look into
[1:20:18] the.
[1:20:19] Juveniles history.
[1:20:19] Is whether or.
[1:20:21] Not diversion.
[1:20:21] >> is an option.
[1:20:22] Diversion would.
[1:20:24] Mean sending that juvenile to.
[1:20:25] Some sort of.
[1:20:26] Youth program in.
[1:20:29] Charlotte to look at their
[1:20:29] behavior and look at the sort.
[1:20:30] Of overall.
[1:20:31] Holistic view of that.
[1:20:32] Juvenile to make.
[1:20:34] >> sure that they stay on the.
[1:20:34] >> right.
[1:20:34] Track and.
[1:20:36] Complete that program in order
[1:20:38] to avoid any juvenile charges.
[1:20:40] And so they will review their
[1:20:41] arrest history and.
[1:20:42] Especially for six.
[1:20:42] Six for.
[1:20:43] Six years old.
[1:20:45] Through 17 year olds.
[1:20:47] Those are the ages that are
[1:20:47] subject to.
[1:20:48] Juvenile law.
[1:20:48] And they.
[1:20:49] >> will look.
[1:20:49] >> at those.
[1:20:50] Prior arrests.
[1:20:52] Per cmpd policy.
[1:20:52] If the.
[1:20:53] >> juvenile has a history of
[1:20:55] any prior arrest, they would
[1:20:57] not be subject to.
[1:20:58] seeking a.
[1:20:59] >> diversion program based on
[1:21:00] that policy.
[1:21:02] However.
[1:21:03] >> whether or not cmpd.
[1:21:05] Officers were to divert the
[1:21:06] juvenile to a youth.
[1:21:07] Program.
[1:21:08] >> the department.
[1:21:09] Of juvenile justice and the
[1:21:11] juvenile court counselors in
[1:21:13] the court system could still
[1:21:15] send that juvenile to a
[1:21:16] diversion program prior to it
[1:21:18] getting to the courthouse.
[1:21:19] And let's say that the juvenile
[1:21:21] court counselor chooses not to
[1:21:23] send the youth to a diversion
[1:21:23] program.
[1:21:26] The district court judge in
[1:21:27] juvenile court still has the.
[1:21:29] Final decision to decide.
[1:21:31] Whether or not they will send
[1:21:33] that particular youth to a
[1:21:33] diversion.
[1:21:34] Program as well, and that
[1:21:36] applies for curfew violations
[1:21:38] or any third sort of violation
[1:21:41] that is not diverting.
[1:21:42] Because that barrier.
[1:21:43] When we.
[1:21:45] >> talk about the particular
[1:21:46] juvenile arrest process and
[1:21:47] again this is a general
[1:21:49] overview not just related to
[1:21:49] curfew.
[1:21:51] One of the decisions or things
[1:21:52] that an officer will.
[1:21:53] Have to determine is whether or
[1:21:55] not they need a secure custody
[1:21:56] order.
[1:21:57] You will see that abbreviated
[1:21:58] as esco.
[1:21:59] And that means that the
[1:22:00] juvenile would.
[1:22:03] Be taken to a secured facility
[1:22:04] like a juvenile detention
[1:22:04] facility.
[1:22:07] Um juveniles will have to or
[1:22:07] excuse.
[1:22:08] >> me officers.
[1:22:10] Would need to seek a referral
[1:22:11] from the juvenile court
[1:22:12] counselor to get that secure
[1:22:15] custody order if the crime is a
[1:22:17] felony, if it involves gang
[1:22:19] activity or weapons or if it
[1:22:20] involves an aggravated assault
[1:22:20] .
[1:22:22] So if any juvenile committed
[1:22:22] one.
[1:22:23] >> of those particular.
[1:22:25] Types of crimes, they could.
[1:22:27] >> not be sent by the officer
[1:22:29] through a diversion program and
[1:22:30] the officer was seek that
[1:22:32] secure custody order with the
[1:22:32] juvenile.
[1:22:33] Court counselors.
[1:22:34] Um, let's.
[1:22:37] Say that it is an option for
[1:22:38] officers to divert.
[1:22:39] They would do the police report
[1:22:41] to enter the facts and
[1:22:42] information of what occurred
[1:22:44] and then students in that
[1:22:45] juvenile through the diversion
[1:22:48] program or else if it's a crime
[1:22:50] that is it can be diverted but
[1:22:51] based on that particular
[1:22:53] juvenile history the officer
[1:22:55] does not divert them that
[1:22:56] juvenile within enter the
[1:22:58] juvenile court process by way
[1:22:59] of a petition.
[1:23:01] Um this is governed by chapter
[1:23:03] seven b of our north carolina
[1:23:04] general statutes.
[1:23:05] And would.
[1:23:06] >> involve that child going to
[1:23:07] the eighth floor of the
[1:23:09] courthouse where a juvenile
[1:23:10] district court judge would hear
[1:23:11] that particular matter.
[1:23:14] Um, it's important to state
[1:23:15] here that these charges would
[1:23:18] not automatically initiate a
[1:23:20] neglect case against that
[1:23:21] juvenile or their parent.
[1:23:24] However, I will say that the
[1:23:25] juvenile court system takes a
[1:23:27] very global and holistic look
[1:23:29] at each juvenile and there
[1:23:31] could be any sort of crime
[1:23:32] before a juvenile court judge
[1:23:34] where that matter could end up
[1:23:36] in a case where the family has
[1:23:39] an open dss investigation for
[1:23:40] abuse, neglect or any sort of
[1:23:42] thing but it does not
[1:23:44] automatically flow from a
[1:23:47] curfew charge or any particular
[1:23:47] charge.
[1:23:49] Um, our officers, our juvenile
[1:23:50] court counselors, our district
[1:23:53] court judges all have a duty to
[1:23:54] report and if there were to be
[1:23:56] something in the factual
[1:23:58] circumstances uh, for example,
[1:23:59] a curfew charge that required
[1:24:01] reporting to dss, then that
[1:24:02] would open a file.
[1:24:04] But it is not an automatic part
[1:24:05] of the juvenile arrest process.
[1:24:07] Um, a big thing.
[1:24:08] People think that when
[1:24:10] juveniles are arrested it means
[1:24:11] automatic handcuffs as the
[1:24:13] chief said that they are taken
[1:24:14] to the sheriff's office.
[1:24:16] They are not generally speaking
[1:24:17] with a juvenile arrest.
[1:24:19] The parent or guardian of that
[1:24:21] juvenile is called to come and
[1:24:23] get them and from there
[1:24:24] diversion and petition
[1:24:25] decisions are made about
[1:24:27] whether that case will go to
[1:24:28] court or be diverted.
[1:24:30] Now sometimes when detained
[1:24:32] officers do have a legal
[1:24:34] authority to use handcuffs on
[1:24:35] juveniles depending on the
[1:24:37] particular act committed on
[1:24:39] that date in other factual
[1:24:39] circumstances.
[1:24:40] But the juvenile arrests
[1:24:42] generally involves um the
[1:24:43] juveniles parent or guardian
[1:24:44] being called to pick them up
[1:24:45] and if there's a secure.
[1:24:47] Custody order then that
[1:24:48] juvenile would be transported
[1:24:50] to the secure facility after.
[1:24:51] >> that.
[1:24:51] Juvenile arrest.
[1:24:53] And with that I will turn it
[1:24:55] over to doctor stewart to talk
[1:24:58] about our spaces for youth
[1:24:59] opportunities.
[1:25:03] And evening mayor.
[1:25:05] Manager members of council
[1:25:07] ricky stuart office of youth
[1:25:07] opportunities.
[1:25:08] I wanted to take.
[1:25:09] >> a moment.
[1:25:10] To share.
[1:25:11] Some things that I shared.
[1:25:12] In our previous meeting.
[1:25:13] On AUGUST 10th.
[1:25:14] As it.
[1:25:16] >> relates to what the office.
[1:25:17] >> of youth opportunities.
[1:25:17] Has been doing.
[1:25:19] As it relates to third spaces.
[1:25:20] So we.
[1:25:21] Were a little bit ahead.
[1:25:22] >> of.
[1:25:22] The.
[1:25:23] Game as we have been.
[1:25:24] Working with third spaces for
[1:25:25] over a year.
[1:25:26] We've had.
[1:25:26] >> a great.
[1:25:28] >> partnership with the ymca.
[1:25:29] Where from uh.
[1:25:32] JUNE to DECEMBER we were able
[1:25:34] to provide 200 passes to all of
[1:25:35] the.
[1:25:35] Y's across.
[1:25:37] Charlotte and then.
[1:25:38] This year we were able to
[1:25:39] create a great partnership.
[1:25:40] With mecklenburg county.
[1:25:41] Parks and recreation.
[1:25:44] Where we were able to provide
[1:25:45] 250 passes.
[1:25:46] To the rec.
[1:25:48] Center and we're working.
[1:25:48] >> on.
[1:25:49] expanding that.
[1:25:49] Uh.
[1:25:50] >> I also want to.
[1:25:51] Share that.
[1:25:52] >> chief patterson.
[1:25:52] And I on.
[1:25:54] Last tuesday.
[1:25:55] Had a.
[1:25:56] Great meeting with the ceo of
[1:25:56] the.
[1:25:57] Y and her.
[1:25:59] >> team to discuss what we can
[1:26:00] do to partner.
[1:26:02] To reimagine.
[1:26:03] Third spaces for our youth.
[1:26:04] So we.
[1:26:06] Left out of the meeting, um.
[1:26:08] Feeling very good.
[1:26:09] About some opportunities.
[1:26:10] And my.
[1:26:11] Team and I are now.
[1:26:12] Working on.
[1:26:14] Ideating a pilot with.
[1:26:16] The ymca to offer third spaces.
[1:26:18] Over the next ten months.
[1:26:20] Um, some of the additional
[1:26:21] things.
[1:26:21] >> that we're.
[1:26:23] Doing as a relates to third
[1:26:23] spaces.
[1:26:24] Is I did mention we have.
[1:26:25] >> a.
[1:26:26] Partnership grant that.
[1:26:27] >> we are.
[1:26:28] Working on finalizing.
[1:26:29] So once I have an.
[1:26:29] Opportunity to.
[1:26:30] >> get.
[1:26:31] That to my leadership, the goal
[1:26:32] is.
[1:26:32] >> to.
[1:26:33] Have that out before the.
[1:26:34] End of SEPTEMBER.
[1:26:36] This will give us an
[1:26:37] opportunity to work with other
[1:26:39] partners across the city to
[1:26:41] create additional third spaces
[1:26:41] for youth.
[1:26:43] And lastly, we have.
[1:26:45] Already started working with
[1:26:45] cmf.
[1:26:45] And other.
[1:26:47] Partners as it relates.
[1:26:48] To teacher workdays because we.
[1:26:50] Understand it's not.
[1:26:51] >> just the weekends that the
[1:26:52] youth need something to do.
[1:26:53] It's not just after.
[1:26:54] Is any time.
[1:26:55] That they are left alone.
[1:26:57] So the great thing about the
[1:26:57] office.
[1:26:59] >> of youth opportunity.
[1:26:59] >> since.
[1:27:00] Its inception is we have.
[1:27:02] Looked at the child.
[1:27:02] As a whole.
[1:27:05] So we're not just looking to
[1:27:05] give them somewhere to.
[1:27:06] Go and play.
[1:27:09] We're looking to give them
[1:27:09] programing.
[1:27:11] We're looking to give them
[1:27:11] exposure.
[1:27:12] We make.
[1:27:13] Sure that our partners do.
[1:27:15] Provide wraparound services and
[1:27:16] provide mentorship.
[1:27:17] So we will definitely.
[1:27:18] Keep you posted on.
[1:27:19] Our pilot.
[1:27:21] And we will uh, let everyone
[1:27:23] know when the grant.
[1:27:24] Opportunity becomes available.
[1:27:26] So I will turn it back over to.
[1:27:26] Chief patterson.
[1:27:31] Stewart.
[1:27:32] >> and one final.
[1:27:33] >> thing I would note is that
[1:27:36] um, with the implementation of
[1:27:38] this youth ordinance, if you so
[1:27:40] desire, we will make sure that
[1:27:41] we do a full.
[1:27:42] Scale education.
[1:27:43] Campaign regarding this.
[1:27:45] Uh, we would want to make sure
[1:27:47] that first foremost all our
[1:27:47] officers will be.
[1:27:49] Informed that again this is
[1:27:50] just a tool to help.
[1:27:51] us to.
[1:27:53] Ensure that our young people
[1:27:53] are safe and they're.
[1:27:54] In safe spaces.
[1:27:57] Additionally, any interaction
[1:27:59] that our officers would have
[1:28:00] with any member of the youth as
[1:28:01] is our policy right now.
[1:28:02] They have to wear their.
[1:28:04] Body worn cameras so we would
[1:28:05] be able to track information.
[1:28:07] To ensure that this is.
[1:28:10] Applied fairly equitably across
[1:28:12] the city and again that those
[1:28:14] exceptions that are in place
[1:28:15] would be considered and would
[1:28:17] be part of this ordinance.
[1:28:19] So with that I will open.
[1:28:19] >> it up.
[1:28:20] For any.
[1:28:20] >> questions that you.
[1:28:21] >> MAY have of us.
[1:28:23] Concerning any of this.
[1:28:25] Thank you chief patterson and
[1:28:27] team uh, no we have let's see
[1:28:29] we have at least three
[1:28:31] questions starting with doctor
[1:28:31] watlington.
[1:28:32] Thurman out here.
[1:28:33] Okay.
[1:28:34] Got watlington.
[1:28:36] All right I've got four quick.
[1:28:38] Um, if we could go.
[1:28:39] To yes.
[1:28:40] Uh, chief, perhaps a we could
[1:28:40] go to slide three.
[1:28:43] I want to make sure that I
[1:28:43] understand.
[1:28:45] What the numbers are telling.
[1:28:45] >> us here.
[1:28:49] Can you walk me through what.
[1:28:50] Is the story that the data.
[1:28:51] Is telling here?
[1:28:52] What is what.
[1:28:53] >> is the.
[1:28:54] Hypothesis?
[1:28:55] >> yes, ma'am.
[1:28:57] So the story that's.
[1:28:59] Telling us is that we have
[1:29:01] youth victimization happening
[1:29:03] from 9 P.M. To 6:00 in the
[1:29:03] morning.
[1:29:05] And when we look at the
[1:29:06] percentages one I think it's
[1:29:06] just.
[1:29:07] We should.
[1:29:09] >> note that 91%.
[1:29:12] Throughout the night and into
[1:29:15] the early morning are people of
[1:29:15] youth or of color.
[1:29:16] I'm sorry.
[1:29:18] Um, are black and brown
[1:29:20] children I think which is from
[1:29:22] what we hear is a concern.
[1:29:24] So how do we get this number
[1:29:24] down?
[1:29:25] How do we work to get it down?
[1:29:26] >> so I'm sorry.
[1:29:26] >> I just.
[1:29:27] >> want to make sure I'm.
[1:29:27] Clear.
[1:29:29] >> this light this dark blue is
[1:29:30] total victims.
[1:29:31] This light blue that says age
[1:29:33] of 16 to 17 is that victims or
[1:29:33] offenders?
[1:29:34] These are.
[1:29:35] Victims okay?
[1:29:37] This is all victimization okay
[1:29:37] ?
[1:29:38] Yes ma'am.
[1:29:40] And so and if I could just
[1:29:43] break it down for you so from 9
[1:29:45] P.M. To 5:59 A.M. We had 431
[1:29:45] victims.
[1:29:47] These are actual victims of
[1:29:50] crimes during that time period
[1:29:53] from 10 P.M. To 6 A.M. The
[1:29:54] number shrinks a little bit but
[1:29:59] we had 300 and then from 11
[1:29:59] P.M..
[1:29:59] >> to.
[1:29:59] 6.
[1:30:00] A.M..
[1:30:01] 266 victims.
[1:30:04] And so at 9 P.M. From 9 P.M. To
[1:30:06] 6 A.M., 127.
[1:30:07] Of these total.
[1:30:10] Victims are aged 16 and 17.
[1:30:11] Yes, ma'am.
[1:30:11] >> and then.
[1:30:13] At 11.
[1:30:13] >> P.M..
[1:30:15] That number is 77.
[1:30:15] So basically the.
[1:30:18] Difference between 122.
[1:30:18] >> and 77 is.
[1:30:19] What you're.
[1:30:19] >> saying we.
[1:30:21] Will you're hoping to reduce.
[1:30:21] Yes ma'am.
[1:30:22] Victimization and.
[1:30:24] >> then that percentage as well
[1:30:25] trying to get that number down
[1:30:27] as low as possible to protect
[1:30:27] our youth.
[1:30:29] And can you just a quick follow
[1:30:31] up can you then help me
[1:30:31] understand.
[1:30:34] Uh the reason I'm asking this
[1:30:35] question because I think about
[1:30:36] the alternatives to violence
[1:30:37] work that we're doing.
[1:30:38] >> and so.
[1:30:38] My immediate question
[1:30:41] especially as I see 81 gun here
[1:30:44] is how many of those are
[1:30:45] addressed through that
[1:30:47] retaliatory violence piece
[1:30:49] versus through the curfew.
[1:30:50] I'm still not quite clear on
[1:30:51] the mechanism.
[1:30:52] That's changing.
[1:30:55] So our desire our goal is that
[1:30:56] we get that number down.
[1:30:59] The number of victims of crime
[1:30:59] .
[1:31:00] As well.
[1:31:00] >> as.
[1:31:01] Offenders of crime that are
[1:31:01] youth.
[1:31:03] And so I think for us is just
[1:31:04] being able to.
[1:31:06] You know, knowing that when you
[1:31:06] throw out.
[1:31:07] >> a.
[1:31:09] Theory is when they are out
[1:31:10] then they're being victimized
[1:31:13] and some are also causing um
[1:31:13] victimization.
[1:31:15] so we would like to reduce both
[1:31:17] of those the curfew we believe
[1:31:18] would help us to do that
[1:31:19] because when youth are out
[1:31:19] then.
[1:31:21] They're getting in trouble but
[1:31:22] when they're not out they're
[1:31:23] not um victimizing.
[1:31:26] And then just too quickly we
[1:31:28] and I asked this last time but
[1:31:28] I'm.
[1:31:30] Hoping that maybe we can dig
[1:31:30] into.
[1:31:31] >> a little bit deeper here
[1:31:32] right now the sun sets
[1:31:34] somewhere between 8 and 9.
[1:31:35] We know in the winter time it's
[1:31:37] going to be somewhere between 4
[1:31:37] and 5:00.
[1:31:41] What is the what is the thought
[1:31:42] process during the winter time
[1:31:43] of how this applies?
[1:31:43] >> do we.
[1:31:45] Are there tell me what your
[1:31:45] thoughts are.
[1:31:48] Yeah so you know we want to be
[1:31:50] reasonable with the time that
[1:31:51] we set this curfew right based
[1:31:53] on what our data shows us.
[1:31:56] Um, you know, at 9 P.M. You
[1:31:57] have more victims.
[1:31:59] So we certainly felt like 8
[1:32:00] P.M. Was unreasonable.
[1:32:01] We looked at other cities what
[1:32:03] they're doing just to benchmark
[1:32:05] um, I believe firmly that.
[1:32:09] If we go with a 9 P.M. Curfew
[1:32:11] that is enough time that if you
[1:32:13] start to gather they start to,
[1:32:15] um, congregate we can dismantle
[1:32:15] it.
[1:32:18] We can prevent them from having
[1:32:19] um, harmful events or being
[1:32:21] engaged in something that could
[1:32:21] where they victimize.
[1:32:22] Or they.
[1:32:23] >> can be victimize.
[1:32:25] I don't know if I'm answering
[1:32:25] your question fully.
[1:32:27] Well for the summertime.
[1:32:29] sure in the winter time that's
[1:32:31] 4 or 5 hours where youth would
[1:32:32] still be permitted to be out
[1:32:34] but it is also dark and people
[1:32:34] .
[1:32:35] Are likely inside.
[1:32:37] So I'm just curious as to how
[1:32:39] we're thinking about how this
[1:32:41] applies during the winter
[1:32:41] months.
[1:32:42] Sure.
[1:32:43] >> I think in the winter months
[1:32:44] as you stated people tend to be
[1:32:45] inside more.
[1:32:46] I think there's more
[1:32:47] opportunities for happy to have
[1:32:48] events for our youth,
[1:32:50] meaningful events, things that
[1:32:51] they can do so they they are
[1:32:52] not outside.
[1:32:53] They're not out during that.
[1:32:54] Time.
[1:32:54] Okay.
[1:32:56] And then just finally are you
[1:32:56] suggesting.
[1:32:58] As part of your proposal.
[1:33:00] >> a pilot to gather data?
[1:33:02] Are you suggesting full on
[1:33:03] implementation at the start.
[1:33:05] We would like an implementation
[1:33:05] .
[1:33:06] I think a pilot is something
[1:33:07] that could be.
[1:33:08] Considered especially if we
[1:33:09] want to get substantive data.
[1:33:11] I think that's an opportunity
[1:33:12] for us to do that.
[1:33:14] Thank you thank you.
[1:33:14] Great.
[1:33:15] >> and uh next is council
[1:33:16] member mayo.
[1:33:18] Um thank you doctor watlington
[1:33:18] .
[1:33:20] And that was sort of thinking
[1:33:22] time that was 3 or 4 minutes.
[1:33:25] Um if we could try to keep our
[1:33:26] comments and try not to be too
[1:33:28] repetitive redundant um, but
[1:33:29] also keep our comments
[1:33:30] somewhere in that range I think
[1:33:32] we can um, have a.
[1:33:33] Good discussion of an important
[1:33:33] issue so.
[1:33:34] You know, for me.
[1:33:35] Thank you.
[1:33:35] Um.
[1:33:36] >> I've asked.
[1:33:37] That the map be.
[1:33:38] Shown for.
[1:33:39] >> district three.
[1:33:39] Um.
[1:33:40] >> and I'm sure some of my.
[1:33:42] Colleagues MAY want their
[1:33:43] district map shown as well but.
[1:33:45] I thought this is really good
[1:33:45] data.
[1:33:46] Um, this is something I've.
[1:33:47] >> been.
[1:33:47] Talking about.
[1:33:50] Probably almost ten years.
[1:33:52] Since I first moved to orleans
[1:33:53] forward.
[1:33:54] Um, and I know this is an all
[1:33:55] city.
[1:33:56] Investment, but I just want us
[1:33:56] to be thoughtful.
[1:33:57] Holistically.
[1:33:58] >> particularly when we're
[1:33:59] talking about young people.
[1:34:01] You know, we want to equip.
[1:34:01] You with with.
[1:34:02] Everything that you need.
[1:34:04] >> in order to decrease.
[1:34:06] Victimization, uh, for our.
[1:34:06] >> young people.
[1:34:07] But how.
[1:34:08] >> can.
[1:34:08] We also.
[1:34:09] Encourage our.
[1:34:11] County counterparts to help do
[1:34:11] their part?
[1:34:13] MISTER Manager be able to get
[1:34:13] that up there?
[1:34:15] Sorry we talked about it
[1:34:16] earlier so okay.
[1:34:18] Should I come back?
[1:34:19] >> y'all come back to me.
[1:34:19] Okay.
[1:34:20] >> we'll do that.
[1:34:20] Okay.
[1:34:22] uh, council member edgemere.
[1:34:22] Will come back.
[1:34:24] And thank you.
[1:34:24] Mayor harrington.
[1:34:26] You're doing an excellent job.
[1:34:28] Keeping track of all the hands
[1:34:29] that's been raised.
[1:34:30] Y'all are helping.
[1:34:31] Um.
[1:34:34] First chief, thank you for your
[1:34:34] leadership.
[1:34:36] I understand that you are
[1:34:37] asking for.
[1:34:37] A tool.
[1:34:40] In the case where there is a
[1:34:42] teen takeover that could turn
[1:34:43] violent.
[1:34:48] Um, I certainly appreciate and
[1:34:49] respect your leadership.
[1:34:54] I would like to see if we can
[1:34:58] do a pilot to gather data and
[1:34:59] then based on the data it will
[1:35:01] tell us whether this is
[1:35:03] something that will work in our
[1:35:03] region or not.
[1:35:04] Right.
[1:35:05] Because your.
[1:35:08] Department and alongside doctor
[1:35:10] stewart's office gave us.
[1:35:13] Studies and I appreciate that
[1:35:14] he was objective right.
[1:35:16] It was an all pro curfew wasn't
[1:35:17] all the entire curfew was
[1:35:19] somewhere in the middle right.
[1:35:20] We had some.
[1:35:21] Studies that shows mixed
[1:35:21] results.
[1:35:23] There were.
[1:35:24] >> some studies that shows it
[1:35:25] works.
[1:35:26] So for us.
[1:35:27] >> to really.
[1:35:32] Not have an objective study
[1:35:34] done, I think.
[1:35:36] Our data can tell us whether
[1:35:37] this will work or not.
[1:35:38] So my question.
[1:35:40] >> to you is would you be
[1:35:41] willing to do a pilot.
[1:35:44] Program and see whether we are
[1:35:49] able to see improvement in teen
[1:35:51] takeovers that turn violent?
[1:35:53] Yes ma'am and thank you for
[1:35:53] that.
[1:35:54] I will be willing to do
[1:35:55] something like that.
[1:35:55] I think it is.
[1:35:56] Reasonable and it.
[1:35:58] Allows us in real time to be
[1:35:59] able to see is this something
[1:36:00] that would be effective here in
[1:36:02] charlotte especially based on
[1:36:03] what we're seeing?
[1:36:04] I don't think that we can as I
[1:36:06] stated before, just rely on the
[1:36:06] studies.
[1:36:06] Um.
[1:36:08] >> they're in different parts
[1:36:09] of the nation.
[1:36:10] They are 2030 years old.
[1:36:13] I think we can get real data if
[1:36:14] we look here in.
[1:36:15] Charlotte and.
[1:36:15] >> and do.
[1:36:16] A pilot.
[1:36:18] I appreciate that.
[1:36:20] I would like us to explore that
[1:36:22] alternative uh, so that we are
[1:36:24] looking at real data that is
[1:36:25] local.
[1:36:28] Uh, also doctor stewart, I
[1:36:28] appreciate.
[1:36:28] >> the.
[1:36:30] Report that your team put
[1:36:30] together.
[1:36:34] Uh, I appreciate have office of
[1:36:36] youth opportunities have.
[1:36:39] Touched over 5000 lives and I
[1:36:41] know that we are not going to
[1:36:41] stop here.
[1:36:42] We are going to continue to
[1:36:43] increase our investments.
[1:36:45] But I just want to give kudos
[1:36:46] to you and your team because I
[1:36:49] know this is relatively a new
[1:36:52] team that was uh that was part
[1:36:53] of our last year's budget.
[1:36:55] So I appreciate the work that
[1:36:56] you do.
[1:36:59] I was myself alongside council
[1:37:01] member watlington and council
[1:37:03] member graham were at civic
[1:37:05] engagement event last weekend
[1:37:09] and this topic had come up and
[1:37:11] I met two youth members who had
[1:37:13] participated in some of our
[1:37:14] programs and they had great
[1:37:15] things to say.
[1:37:16] So thank you for all the work
[1:37:17] that you are doing.
[1:37:18] That's all I have.
[1:37:19] Thank you.
[1:37:20] >> council members mayor,
[1:37:20] council.
[1:37:22] Member mayor.
[1:37:22] Are you said yes or.
[1:37:24] I don't know okay.
[1:37:25] We'll go to council member.
[1:37:25] Oakland and.
[1:37:25] Come back.
[1:37:27] >> to you.
[1:37:28] He's working on pulling it up.
[1:37:30] Thank you.
[1:37:31] >> chief patterson.
[1:37:32] >> and I appreciate the
[1:37:32] presentation.
[1:37:32] I.
[1:37:34] >> um, had a conversation over
[1:37:35] the.
[1:37:36] Weekend with a constituent.
[1:37:36] Who MAY or MAY.
[1:37:38] Not be one of my three children
[1:37:38] .
[1:37:39] Um.
[1:37:41] >> about the curfew.
[1:37:42] >> and his.
[1:37:43] Question to me was one I could
[1:37:43] not.
[1:37:46] Answer and he said to me why.
[1:37:48] Don't you do what they do?
[1:37:49] Would we go on?
[1:37:50] Um.
[1:37:50] >> you.
[1:37:51] Know.
[1:37:51] .
[1:37:52] Spring break.
[1:37:52] And they've.
[1:37:53] Got rules.
[1:37:54] >> that are.
[1:37:55] Focused on the size of a
[1:37:55] congregation.
[1:37:57] They're focused on a gathering.
[1:37:57] They are focused.
[1:37:59] >> on enforcing curfew.
[1:38:02] Against a mass and you know,
[1:38:02] depending.
[1:38:02] >> on.
[1:38:03] What number.
[1:38:04] Perhaps we settle.
[1:38:06] >> on so that we're.
[1:38:08] Not potentially putting at
[1:38:08] risk.
[1:38:10] Kids who are out on a date.
[1:38:11] And kids who are coming.
[1:38:12] To and from events.
[1:38:14] Can you address that?
[1:38:15] I haven't had an opportunity.
[1:38:15] >> to.
[1:38:15] Do.
[1:38:15] My own.
[1:38:17] >> research on whether some of
[1:38:18] these things that.
[1:38:18] You see.
[1:38:20] In destin or some of the the
[1:38:21] destinations.
[1:38:22] Where people do congregate,
[1:38:22] where they.
[1:38:24] Are effectively able to break.
[1:38:26] >> up large masses of
[1:38:26] unaccompanied.
[1:38:27] Minors can you.
[1:38:28] Speak to that?
[1:38:29] >> and I will.
[1:38:29] Try um.
[1:38:31] >> I'm not sure totally that
[1:38:32] I'm understanding.
[1:38:32] .
[1:38:34] >> the question would be that
[1:38:35] it would be a.
[1:38:37] Curfew that was tailored more
[1:38:37] against.
[1:38:39] A congregation.
[1:38:41] I've heard you use the phrase
[1:38:41] congregation gathering.
[1:38:42] It feels.
[1:38:44] Like to narrowly tailor this.
[1:38:46] So that we're not just not.
[1:38:47] Enforcing it against kids.
[1:38:50] The face of this would enforce
[1:38:50] it against a.
[1:38:51] people on a.
[1:38:52] >> date and.
[1:38:52] >> a movie.
[1:38:53] Goes long.
[1:38:55] Okay, you're saying to me that
[1:38:56] you would not expect your.
[1:38:57] Officers nor.
[1:38:57] >> do.
[1:38:59] You have adequate officers to
[1:38:59] enforce that.
[1:39:00] >> is a.
[1:39:00] Curfew police.
[1:39:03] Can we more narrowly tailored
[1:39:03] the.
[1:39:04] Curfew such that it.
[1:39:05] Wouldn't apply to two.
[1:39:07] Couples who are out on a date
[1:39:09] versus a group of.
[1:39:11] Ten individuals who are under
[1:39:11] age?
[1:39:13] So you're really targeting more
[1:39:13] of the.
[1:39:15] Congregation aspect than just
[1:39:16] the age.
[1:39:16] Sure.
[1:39:18] >> so if I understand you
[1:39:19] correctly so we're saying that
[1:39:20] if you have youth that are
[1:39:21] gathered in a particular area
[1:39:22] of the uptown.
[1:39:25] Perhaps um just focus in just
[1:39:26] in that area is what you're
[1:39:27] saying.
[1:39:27] Look.
[1:39:28] >> it was just.
[1:39:29] Specifically speaking of that.
[1:39:29] Area although that's.
[1:39:31] Another way of narrowly
[1:39:31] tailoring.
[1:39:32] >> it if.
[1:39:32] You wanted.
[1:39:33] >> to have it on certain areas
[1:39:35] of the city where are more
[1:39:36] frequently occupied.
[1:39:37] I was.
[1:39:38] >> speaking more.
[1:39:39] >> to say you've got.
[1:39:40] Ten youth are together.
[1:39:42] Your officers are going to.
[1:39:43] Ask them what's up and enforce
[1:39:45] the curfew versus.
[1:39:47] A couple kids on a date and go
[1:39:48] see a movie that last past
[1:39:49] nine.
[1:39:52] I mean I just I personally.
[1:39:52] >> couldn't.
[1:39:53] Answer the question that was.
[1:39:54] Raised of me as to.
[1:39:55] >> are.
[1:39:56] We exploring all ways.
[1:39:57] >> that we could more narrowly
[1:39:58] tailor this.
[1:39:59] And have it.
[1:40:00] Address what we're really
[1:40:01] trying to get at.
[1:40:02] >> which is gatherings?
[1:40:03] Sure, yes.
[1:40:04] And I would say that you know,
[1:40:06] we thought as the beginning
[1:40:08] stages of this we thought about
[1:40:09] locations where we have tend to
[1:40:10] see the teen takeovers.
[1:40:11] The problem with that is
[1:40:13] they're all over they're
[1:40:14] everywhere and if you try to
[1:40:15] just narrow it to one location
[1:40:17] ,if we put all our resources
[1:40:19] say in the uptown area then
[1:40:20] we've seen where they would go
[1:40:21] to the university area.
[1:40:22] ,northlake.
[1:40:24] >> area, um huntersville
[1:40:26] frankie's all these various
[1:40:27] locations where these youth
[1:40:29] like to hang out and so we want
[1:40:30] to be able to have a tool that
[1:40:32] wherever they go we're able to
[1:40:33] go there and start to break
[1:40:35] that up and um, make sure that
[1:40:36] we don't have incidents as a
[1:40:38] result of it.
[1:40:40] So I, I don't know that.
[1:40:41] Narrowing it.
[1:40:43] >> down to just one particular
[1:40:45] area would be effective in
[1:40:47] trying to prevent them in the
[1:40:48] first place, um, kind of thing
[1:40:49] .
[1:40:51] Um, the other part that you
[1:40:52] said, you know, looking at
[1:40:54] congregations or areas I think
[1:40:54] I.
[1:40:55] Understand you're saying.
[1:40:56] That if we were to just focus
[1:40:57] on.
[1:40:57] >> a.
[1:40:59] Group particular group.
[1:41:02] Are you saying to give those.
[1:41:04] To violate those individuals
[1:41:04] for.
[1:41:06] So I'm saying that I've asked
[1:41:07] our staff to.
[1:41:08] Look into.
[1:41:10] And I would ask you to also
[1:41:10] have.
[1:41:11] Folks look.
[1:41:14] Into what destinations that
[1:41:14] frequently.
[1:41:15] Are able to.
[1:41:17] Disperse large gatherings of
[1:41:17] unaccompanied.
[1:41:19] Minors are.
[1:41:20] Doing that is not.
[1:41:21] Putting at risk.
[1:41:23] Folks who.
[1:41:25] Are otherwise.
[1:41:26] Just doing the things that kids
[1:41:26] .
[1:41:28] Do in couples or.
[1:41:29] >> in.
[1:41:30] Small groups of kids.
[1:41:30] There is.
[1:41:31] >> a big.
[1:41:31] Difference in my.
[1:41:33] Mind between someone.
[1:41:34] Going to see a movie.
[1:41:36] Or coming back from.
[1:41:36] ,you know.
[1:41:38] Whatever they're coming back
[1:41:38] from at night.
[1:41:39] And they happen to.
[1:41:40] >> be alone.
[1:41:41] I would like to not have.
[1:41:43] Them have an interaction with
[1:41:44] the police for no reason.
[1:41:46] And I appreciate that you've.
[1:41:47] Told us that that is highly.
[1:41:48] Unlikely to.
[1:41:49] Happen because you just.
[1:41:50] >> don't have the officers.
[1:41:50] >> to.
[1:41:50] Do it.
[1:41:51] >> I'm asking.
[1:41:52] Instead could.
[1:41:54] We look at tailoring.
[1:41:55] This curfew.
[1:41:56] So that that isn't even an
[1:41:57] issue so that.
[1:41:58] Unless you're in a group of.
[1:41:59] Ten people.
[1:42:01] Sure is a minor.
[1:42:02] You're not going to have that
[1:42:03] interaction with.
[1:42:03] >> the.
[1:42:04] Police officer?
[1:42:04] Sure.
[1:42:05] That is something to consider.
[1:42:07] Now I'm understanding what
[1:42:07] you're asking.
[1:42:09] My apologies for not
[1:42:09] articulating.
[1:42:09] It well.
[1:42:10] Yes.
[1:42:12] >> no I think I understand what
[1:42:12] you're saying.
[1:42:14] I mean and certainly if they're
[1:42:15] in a group together they're in
[1:42:17] a safe space together then we
[1:42:19] would not want to enforce it
[1:42:19] necessarily.
[1:42:20] That is something that we can
[1:42:20] consider.
[1:42:21] Thank you.
[1:42:23] .
[1:42:23] >> thank you, councilmember
[1:42:24] owens.
[1:42:24] Councilmember.
[1:42:25] >> yeah I'm ready.
[1:42:25] Yeah.
[1:42:27] >> um I just.
[1:42:28] Really wanted to highlight the
[1:42:29] map.
[1:42:29] Um, and.
[1:42:31] >> actually having.
[1:42:33] The entire charlotte region.
[1:42:35] Is really helpful I think.
[1:42:35] Um.
[1:42:38] >> to see gaps not only in
[1:42:38] district three.
[1:42:39] But in district.
[1:42:41] six in.
[1:42:42] District seven.
[1:42:43] Um in five.
[1:42:44] Um.
[1:42:46] >> when I think of when you
[1:42:46] all.
[1:42:46] Mentioned partnering.
[1:42:47] With the.
[1:42:49] Ymca, I know that still creek
[1:42:50] lost its.
[1:42:52] Ymca maybe like three years
[1:42:52] ago.
[1:42:54] So I mean I don't know.
[1:42:55] >> who you would necessarily.
[1:42:55] Partner with.
[1:42:56] When there's no y there.
[1:42:57] Um, and.
[1:42:59] >> even when.
[1:42:59] >> you.
[1:42:59] Look at.
[1:43:00] >> more closer.
[1:43:02] Can you tell us more about what
[1:43:03] you would do with the high
[1:43:03] schools?
[1:43:05] Because I saw your dots in the
[1:43:06] high schools.
[1:43:07] Are you doing programing in the
[1:43:08] high schools?
[1:43:10] Just curious what that looks
[1:43:10] like.
[1:43:11] >> so with the high schools
[1:43:12] it's more of the teacher.
[1:43:13] >> work.
[1:43:14] Days but when you speak about
[1:43:15] the.
[1:43:15] Gaps those are.
[1:43:16] >> the.
[1:43:17] Things that we're looking at.
[1:43:17] So that's why it's.
[1:43:18] Taken us a.
[1:43:18] >> little bit.
[1:43:19] >> of time to put the grant
[1:43:20] application.
[1:43:22] Together because we want to
[1:43:22] make sure we're.
[1:43:23] Leveraging not.
[1:43:24] Only where there.
[1:43:25] Is a lack.
[1:43:26] But that we're.
[1:43:28] Leveraging cmpd, cmpd data.
[1:43:29] >> so we want we're really
[1:43:30] wanting to be intentional.
[1:43:31] And I really.
[1:43:32] Appreciate that.
[1:43:33] >> as a former teacher.
[1:43:34] I love data.
[1:43:35] Uh, always one.
[1:43:36] >> of my favorite things look
[1:43:37] at teaching math.
[1:43:40] Um but I just want to encourage
[1:43:42] all of our various partners um
[1:43:43] ,particularly the county.
[1:43:44] Um.
[1:43:45] >> and they know I get on them
[1:43:46] quite a bit but.
[1:43:48] I see some gaps and I.
[1:43:50] Hope that our.
[1:43:50] Residents will.
[1:43:53] >> have some conversations with
[1:43:54] their county commissioners
[1:43:55] about investment and I'm just
[1:43:55] I'm.
[1:43:55] Be very.
[1:43:56] Frank with.
[1:43:57] >> that because it's not.
[1:43:57] Something that.
[1:43:58] You all can do by yourselves.
[1:44:00] Um, that investment needs to
[1:44:01] occur.
[1:44:03] Everywhere so that our young
[1:44:03] people have.
[1:44:06] Things to do and you know, not
[1:44:07] getting in mischief.
[1:44:08] >> so just want to.
[1:44:09] Put that out there.
[1:44:10] Um, excited.
[1:44:11] >> to see the work that y'all
[1:44:12] are doing.
[1:44:13] Um I think that y'all are doing
[1:44:15] great work and very
[1:44:15] appreciative of it.
[1:44:16] I guess.
[1:44:17] >> my only concern is when we
[1:44:19] talk about giving passes to.
[1:44:19] Young people.
[1:44:21] There's nowhere for young
[1:44:22] people to go in some of these
[1:44:25] districts for those passes and
[1:44:26] that's why we really have to
[1:44:28] get to the root of the issue
[1:44:29] which are the gaps.
[1:44:31] So I just want to say so that's
[1:44:31] the difference.
[1:44:32] >> with.
[1:44:32] The partnerships we're not
[1:44:33] looking.
[1:44:33] >> at just handing.
[1:44:34] >> out passes.
[1:44:35] We're looking at being.
[1:44:36] Intentional and we.
[1:44:37] >> met.
[1:44:37] With.
[1:44:38] The why we looked at every.
[1:44:38] Load we.
[1:44:38] Looked at.
[1:44:40] >> we looked at their map to
[1:44:41] see where they had locations.
[1:44:42] We bounce.
[1:44:42] >> that.
[1:44:43] Off chief.
[1:44:44] >> to talk about.
[1:44:45] Different things that were
[1:44:46] happening in those communities.
[1:44:47] So just know that we.
[1:44:48] >> are being more intentional.
[1:44:49] We're not.
[1:44:50] Just passing out passes.
[1:44:51] And we.
[1:44:52] >> definitely want to make sure
[1:44:52] that.
[1:44:53] >> we're addressing the need.
[1:44:54] Thank you.
[1:44:56] And I just add to that we've
[1:44:58] had a number of nonprofits.
[1:44:59] We've had business community
[1:45:00] members coming to us saying we
[1:45:01] want to be a part of the
[1:45:03] solution finding those third
[1:45:04] spaces for our youth.
[1:45:06] So I think that is all the
[1:45:06] conversation we've been having
[1:45:07] about this has really garnered
[1:45:09] some good responses.
[1:45:11] Very excited I know ricky
[1:45:11] seeing.
[1:45:12] Was supposed.
[1:45:12] >> to.
[1:45:13] Talk today.
[1:45:14] Unfortunately he was not here
[1:45:16] but he had some great maps to
[1:45:17] show as well and excited.
[1:45:18] >> for.
[1:45:19] Him to share those.
[1:45:20] So that we can see the
[1:45:21] solutions.
[1:45:22] >> that you are working with
[1:45:24] with your various partners.
[1:45:24] So I'll stop talking.
[1:45:25] And also.
[1:45:27] Member mayo council member
[1:45:27] mayfield.
[1:45:31] Thank you mayor 17.
[1:45:33] Thank you for the information.
[1:45:35] I um a number.
[1:45:36] Of questions.
[1:45:41] One I'm going to encourage a
[1:45:43] pilot where we actually talk to
[1:45:44] our youth.
[1:45:46] Before versus adults coming up
[1:45:48] with what you think is the
[1:45:49] option.
[1:45:49] Last week.
[1:45:54] I had the opportunity to uh to
[1:45:54] .
[1:45:56] An event uh.
[1:45:57] Spark house.
[1:45:59] Where they basically had.
[1:45:59] >> a.
[1:46:01] Teen take over and one of our.
[1:46:04] Cmpd law enforcement officers
[1:46:05] with their youth came up with
[1:46:05] a.
[1:46:09] Basically a mini shark tank
[1:46:10] where they came up with
[1:46:11] different opportunities.
[1:46:14] I have concerns with the
[1:46:15] possibilities because what I'm
[1:46:16] not going.
[1:46:17] What I cannot.
[1:46:21] Discount is that it was one.
[1:46:22] Of our.
[1:46:29] Youth officers who was an adult
[1:46:29] .
[1:46:32] That while on school property
[1:46:33] interacting with a youth
[1:46:35] slammed a child on the ground.
[1:46:38] It has been our officers that
[1:46:40] we have had multiple
[1:46:41] conversations with over the
[1:46:44] years with interactions with
[1:46:46] adults that has resulted in a
[1:46:47] number of lawsuits.
[1:46:49] So I'm definitely concerned
[1:46:49] about how you interact with.
[1:46:51] Children without.
[1:46:52] Hearing a number.
[1:46:54] I personally don't think that
[1:46:56] number is ten of we're seeing
[1:46:57] hundreds of children are coming
[1:47:00] uh, gathering together out of
[1:47:02] those hundreds of kids we have
[1:47:04] 12 to 15 that unfortunately
[1:47:05] cause a challenge.
[1:47:07] What is that number?
[1:47:10] Is it 25 young people together
[1:47:10] ?
[1:47:11] Is it 50 young people together
[1:47:13] that's going to trigger someone
[1:47:14] to interact?
[1:47:17] I'm concerned as far as these
[1:47:18] exceptions.
[1:47:19] So what do we say when they
[1:47:21] have to walk around with a pass
[1:47:21] that.
[1:47:25] Gives me quite.
[1:47:25] >> a bit.
[1:47:27] Of concern I think about
[1:47:29] unfortunately since both of my
[1:47:30] parents had passed when I was
[1:47:30] young.
[1:47:30] I was working.
[1:47:34] At a young age now the court
[1:47:35] wouldn't have worked for me to
[1:47:35] get home.
[1:47:37] So what type of information are
[1:47:40] we asking them to provide
[1:47:42] moving forward with a 9:00 time
[1:47:45] versus actually working with
[1:47:47] spark house, working with some
[1:47:49] of our other groups that
[1:47:50] already have successful
[1:47:53] programs where they are
[1:47:54] engaging with 3 to 500 youth.
[1:48:00] First is concerning not having
[1:48:02] the youth at the table to help
[1:48:03] identify.
[1:48:06] Which I learned evidently young
[1:48:06] people like pickleball.
[1:48:08] I thought that was for all
[1:48:08] people but evidently.
[1:48:09] as a.
[1:48:11] >> young people like as well
[1:48:12] and there's a whole.
[1:48:15] Group that's out there, I agree
[1:48:15] that we need to.
[1:48:16] Be working with the county
[1:48:16] with.
[1:48:17] Park and.
[1:48:17] >> rec.
[1:48:19] >> with access.
[1:48:21] You mentioned some of the
[1:48:23] locations where young people
[1:48:24] have gathered and they gathered
[1:48:24] at frankie's.
[1:48:27] What was the last conversation
[1:48:28] at all?
[1:48:29] If we had worked for any case
[1:48:32] as far as those passes being
[1:48:33] available, we it was mentioned
[1:48:35] that we passed out 200 passes
[1:48:37] here, 250 passes there.
[1:48:40] We said we have 3 to 500 youth
[1:48:41] that's gathering.
[1:48:43] So exactly who are those passes
[1:48:45] going to an hour to pass is
[1:48:46] going to the same you because
[1:48:47] if they're going to the youth
[1:48:49] that's through a generation
[1:48:50] nation or through our current.
[1:48:52] Program that's not the youth
[1:48:53] that's out in the community.
[1:48:56] So what is the real.
[1:48:59] Connection and interaction?
[1:49:01] I am.
[1:49:06] Really hoping that versus say
[1:49:08] that 9:00 pm is the number that
[1:49:12] we really look at expanding the
[1:49:15] programs that are led by teens
[1:49:15] .
[1:49:18] Authorities and we already have
[1:49:19] the partnerships that are doing
[1:49:19] that.
[1:49:20] Work and that.
[1:49:23] Goes beyond the ymca because as
[1:49:25] was mentioned unfortunately
[1:49:26] have closed a number of their
[1:49:27] offices.
[1:49:27] But also.
[1:49:30] >> that's a certain that's a
[1:49:32] targeted group of young people
[1:49:33] that go into the ymca.
[1:49:37] There are other groups out
[1:49:38] there that are doing amazing
[1:49:39] work on the ground.
[1:49:40] There's a two week program that
[1:49:42] happens at john smith every
[1:49:45] year that directly invites
[1:49:46] young men.
[1:49:48] Into the space.
[1:49:51] Young people should be the
[1:49:52] ones.
[1:49:52] >> that lead in this.
[1:49:53] Versus adults thinking.
[1:49:55] >> what we need young.
[1:49:56] People to have.
[1:49:58] Access to by the 9:00.
[1:49:59] Time period.
[1:50:01] To punish the majority.
[1:50:04] For the incidences.
[1:50:08] Which are real and the loss of
[1:50:08] life is very real.
[1:50:12] I don't.
[1:50:14] More enforcement.
[1:50:16] And trust the.
[1:50:19] Cameras when we have had.
[1:50:20] To have.
[1:50:22] Arrest of our own law
[1:50:22] enforcement.
[1:50:23] >> is the answer.
[1:50:25] I think it's more communication
[1:50:26] with the.
[1:50:27] Community that's being impacted
[1:50:27] .
[1:50:30] To say what.
[1:50:30] >> they.
[1:50:30] Would support.
[1:50:31] >> and what they would like to
[1:50:31] see.
[1:50:32] Thank you.
[1:50:34] Thank you.
[1:50:34] >> council member mayfield.
[1:50:36] Uh.
[1:50:37] >> mayor, I was wondering if I
[1:50:38] could just say one thing.
[1:50:39] Um, to the council member, I
[1:50:40] agree wholeheartedly with you
[1:50:41] that we should not be making
[1:50:43] these decisions alone, that we
[1:50:44] include our youth.
[1:50:45] I will share with you that
[1:50:47] earlier this year in MARCH
[1:50:47] after the incidents in birkdale
[1:50:50] ,our members of our team, our
[1:50:52] community services bureau met
[1:50:53] with teens under the safe
[1:50:55] summer charlotte initiative
[1:50:57] where we heard from youth what
[1:50:59] they wanted to get some ideas
[1:50:59] from them.
[1:51:01] They had about 15 meetings um
[1:51:02] the last one.
[1:51:03] Being in MAY.
[1:51:04] So we are trying to seek the
[1:51:05] voices of the young people.
[1:51:06] I was very impressed with a
[1:51:08] young lady who spoke tonight.
[1:51:10] I believe that that is a
[1:51:10] critical component.
[1:51:12] We do need to hear from our
[1:51:13] young people.
[1:51:14] So that would be part of what
[1:51:15] we would do with this um
[1:51:16] ordinance as well.
[1:51:17] Thank you.
[1:51:18] >> thank you.
[1:51:19] >> council member mayfield
[1:51:20] council member MR..
[1:51:21] Aries thank you.
[1:51:23] >> mayor thank you chief thank
[1:51:23] you staff.
[1:51:24] Really appreciate.
[1:51:28] Uh the effort and always the
[1:51:30] the broader goal at hand which
[1:51:32] is to keep our residents safe
[1:51:33] and to keep our are you safe?
[1:51:35] And chief, I appreciate our
[1:51:37] candid conversations.
[1:51:38] Uh, although.
[1:51:39] Different perspectives.
[1:51:40] Right.
[1:51:41] But that that is what is.
[1:51:42] This is all about to make sure
[1:51:44] we come to a comprehensive
[1:51:46] solution that works for
[1:51:47] everyone.
[1:51:47] Um.
[1:51:50] >> I had a few questions.
[1:51:52] So I noted and I did.
[1:51:53] I looked at the.
[1:51:55] Memo before the council meeting
[1:51:56] uh, tonight.
[1:51:57] I noted.
[1:51:59] Data indicating that across the
[1:52:01] different times 9 P.M. 10 P.M.
[1:52:03] 11 P.M. There is little to no
[1:52:04] net change in overall criminal
[1:52:05] .
[1:52:06] Activity involving 1617.
[1:52:07] >> year olds.
[1:52:10] If anything trending slightly
[1:52:11] lower as the night progresses,
[1:52:14] how would you expect the 9 P.M.
[1:52:14] Curfew.
[1:52:16] To change that data?
[1:52:16] >> right?
[1:52:17] We saw 30%.
[1:52:18] For 9.
[1:52:21] >> P.M., 30% for 10 P.M. And
[1:52:23] 29% for 11 P.M..
[1:52:24] What what.
[1:52:25] >> do you expect would change.
[1:52:25] With the curfew?
[1:52:26] Yes.
[1:52:27] >> I think as we educate people
[1:52:29] more as we talk about it we
[1:52:31] will see that number go down um
[1:52:33] to below what it is now 29%.
[1:52:35] It's still I feel significant
[1:52:36] because if it's my child and
[1:52:38] they're part of that 29% I
[1:52:39] would not want them victimize.
[1:52:41] So our desire our hope is the
[1:52:42] more we.
[1:52:42] Educate the.
[1:52:44] >> more we're out the more
[1:52:44] officers are.
[1:52:45] Talking to people about this
[1:52:47] curfew that that number would
[1:52:49] go down, victimization would be
[1:52:49] reduced.
[1:52:50] Thank you.
[1:52:52] Um so.
[1:52:53] When I was.
[1:52:54] Looking at the memos looking at
[1:52:55] the.
[1:52:56] Studies and I did.
[1:52:58] Just a quick chatgpt.
[1:52:59] I and.
[1:53:00] Those were the same studies.
[1:53:03] Uh, reiterated to me to but.
[1:53:05] i would love to see if there's
[1:53:05] any.
[1:53:06] More comprehensive studies out
[1:53:07] there.
[1:53:08] And particularly.
[1:53:10] Not just positive and mixed but
[1:53:11] also the negative studies.
[1:53:12] I want to get a whole picture
[1:53:13] right.
[1:53:16] I think I want to.
[1:53:18] >> I'm a data driven person.
[1:53:19] I want to see what works and I
[1:53:20] understand your concern.
[1:53:22] This is specific I.
[1:53:24] Uh um agree with my colleagues
[1:53:26] that perhaps we look at local
[1:53:27] data and see what works and
[1:53:28] what doesn't work, but.
[1:53:28] >> I.
[1:53:30] Really would like to see more
[1:53:32] studies, um, that are available
[1:53:34] out there uh, rather than those
[1:53:35] that are popular with other
[1:53:36] cities.
[1:53:37] Um.
[1:53:38] >> but while.
[1:53:39] On that topic.
[1:53:40] Well, studies suggest that
[1:53:40] curfews.
[1:53:42] Often lead to an increase in
[1:53:43] arrests.
[1:53:45] Overall crime rates largely
[1:53:47] have remained static throughout
[1:53:47] .
[1:53:49] So if overall crime doesn't
[1:53:49] drop.
[1:53:50] But juvenile.
[1:53:51] Arrests go up.
[1:53:54] Do do we think this is going to
[1:53:55] be effective.
[1:53:56] >> or proactive uh, public
[1:53:57] safety strategy?
[1:53:57] >> well, I think.
[1:53:59] When you're.
[1:54:01] Measuring success let's.
[1:54:01] Say if.
[1:54:03] >> there a pilot.
[1:54:04] Program does happen or the
[1:54:06] curfew is uh, voted upon, this
[1:54:09] council would use uh.
[1:54:11] what do you think is.
[1:54:12] The indicator of success there
[1:54:14] arrest or a drop down in crime.
[1:54:16] ?
[1:54:17] >> success for us looks in two
[1:54:19] ways one a reduction in
[1:54:19] victimization.
[1:54:22] Less juveniles being victimized
[1:54:22] .
[1:54:23] And yes less.
[1:54:24] Crime period.
[1:54:25] Um that are juveniles are
[1:54:27] creating or anybody across the
[1:54:29] city I think I've spoken
[1:54:30] repeatedly that we want to make
[1:54:31] charlotte one of the safest
[1:54:32] large cities.
[1:54:34] We want to reduce crime
[1:54:35] whatever that looks like is
[1:54:36] getting the crime numbers down.
[1:54:37] So I think it's twofold
[1:54:38] victimization and crime.
[1:54:39] Thank you.
[1:54:40] And um.
[1:54:42] To two more sorry mayor I know
[1:54:44] you said 2 or 3 minutes.
[1:54:44] Uh.
[1:54:45] >> but.
[1:54:45] You're close.
[1:54:46] Greg got it.
[1:54:47] Thank you.
[1:54:47] >> with the current.
[1:54:49] Proposal creating uniform
[1:54:49] rules.
[1:54:51] I saw, uh.
[1:54:52] And the statues.
[1:54:53] Our ordinance, our current
[1:54:54] ordinances with when it comes
[1:54:55] to the.
[1:54:57] Exception groups.
[1:54:59] There is still h tier
[1:54:59] interpretations there.
[1:55:01] So I think.
[1:55:03] We might have to revise that if
[1:55:05] this council so decides to.
[1:55:06] Do this curfew.
[1:55:08] Because right now one of them
[1:55:10] was like the errands running
[1:55:10] errands.
[1:55:10] Yes.
[1:55:12] >> yeah there's a certain.
[1:55:12] Curfew for a.
[1:55:14] 13 year olds for running
[1:55:15] errands and then there's a
[1:55:17] certain curfew for 17 under.
[1:55:19] So if if um.
[1:55:20] I just want.
[1:55:21] >> to make sure that we're
[1:55:21] consistent.
[1:55:21] Right.
[1:55:23] If it's, uh, blanket curfew for
[1:55:23] .
[1:55:25] 17 under completely.
[1:55:27] >> that it also would apply to
[1:55:27] those.
[1:55:28] Exceptions as well.
[1:55:29] Sure.
[1:55:30] >> um and then my.
[1:55:31] Last question would be.
[1:55:33] Uh.
[1:55:33] >> how much.
[1:55:35] Conversation has been had with
[1:55:37] center city partners as we've.
[1:55:38] Seen they've they've taken.
[1:55:39] Um, an approach when it.
[1:55:40] Comes to food.
[1:55:41] Trucks.
[1:55:42] >> uh, which I certainly
[1:55:43] disagree with.
[1:55:44] But given.
[1:55:46] That a lot of this activity is
[1:55:48] happening and their footprint
[1:55:49] according to the memo that we
[1:55:49] just.
[1:55:50] Write not to say.
[1:55:51] That it's.
[1:55:52] >> not immune.
[1:55:53] To just that area.
[1:55:54] Um.
[1:55:56] >> I would like to see what
[1:55:56] what.
[1:55:58] Prevents business districts or
[1:55:59] private public partnerships
[1:56:01] from sharing that load or
[1:56:02] enforcing localized safety in
[1:56:03] that way.
[1:56:04] I think we had that interest
[1:56:06] there already have been spoken
[1:56:07] to center city partners
[1:56:08] specifically about it, but
[1:56:08] we've had.
[1:56:09] Conversations with other.
[1:56:10] Partners like bank.
[1:56:10] >> of.
[1:56:12] America fifth third bank.
[1:56:12] Who want.
[1:56:14] To who have asked me
[1:56:15] specifically how can they help
[1:56:16] and what kind of youth programs
[1:56:18] can they provide or.
[1:56:19] Support towards?
[1:56:20] We have it in the.
[1:56:21] Private sector.
[1:56:22] Thank you chief.
[1:56:24] And the last thing is I mean I.
[1:56:25] >> have my 18 year old sister
[1:56:26] here who wanted me to.
[1:56:26] >> ask.
[1:56:26] The.
[1:56:27] Question but.
[1:56:28] If she gets stopped by an
[1:56:29] officer.
[1:56:30] How are they going to.
[1:56:31] Believe that.
[1:56:31] >> she was at work?
[1:56:32] Right?
[1:56:32] She works at a tennis.
[1:56:33] Court.
[1:56:34] >> not volleyball courts at 9
[1:56:37] P.M. Until nine 930 10 P.M. Um
[1:56:38] kids are getting misjudged.
[1:56:40] For being part of these teen.
[1:56:42] Teen um takeovers.
[1:56:43] How are.
[1:56:44] How is.
[1:56:45] Cmpd going to.
[1:56:46] Promise that they're not
[1:56:47] misjudged for being on the road
[1:56:47] after work?
[1:56:50] So I think we approach it the
[1:56:51] same way we do with any other
[1:56:52] interaction we have with the
[1:56:53] public.
[1:56:54] We can do a voluntary contact
[1:56:55] where we go up to the person,
[1:56:58] talk to them um and then just
[1:56:59] try to determine ascertain what
[1:57:01] their age is and also to you
[1:57:02] know, call their parents
[1:57:03] whatever the case MAY be.
[1:57:05] um, if we cannot determine the
[1:57:06] person's age then we can't
[1:57:07] violate them, right?
[1:57:08] We cannot say that they're in
[1:57:09] violation of the youth
[1:57:09] ordinance.
[1:57:10] We do our best to try to.
[1:57:12] Determine that information and
[1:57:14] quite naturally if a youth is
[1:57:15] telling us they just got off
[1:57:17] work and we look in the car, we
[1:57:18] see that they have an apron
[1:57:20] maybe come in from work and
[1:57:21] they say I'm going home.
[1:57:22] Our officers are very
[1:57:23] reasonable.
[1:57:24] We have that discretion to be
[1:57:25] able to say okay, this person
[1:57:27] is doing something meaningful.
[1:57:28] They're not out getting in
[1:57:30] trouble and that they're headed
[1:57:30] home.
[1:57:32] We're not again, I don't think
[1:57:33] I can say it enough that we are
[1:57:36] not going after.
[1:57:38] Youth who are doing the right
[1:57:38] thing.
[1:57:39] We are trying.
[1:57:40] >> to reduce victimization.
[1:57:40] We are.
[1:57:41] >> trying to reduce crime
[1:57:42] across.
[1:57:43] The board.
[1:57:44] >> so we will take every
[1:57:45] measure we can do.
[1:57:46] To do.
[1:57:46] >> that and.
[1:57:48] >> educating um our team I
[1:57:49] think is really important to
[1:57:49] make sure.
[1:57:50] >> that that happens.
[1:57:51] Thank you chief.
[1:57:52] And last thing manager I saw
[1:57:54] that map of youth opportunities
[1:57:55] COUNCILMAN Gap in district.
[1:57:57] Five so we should talk about
[1:57:57] that.
[1:57:57] Thank you.
[1:57:58] And I think obviously if there
[1:57:59] were additional.
[1:58:00] questions chief I assume you
[1:58:02] would take questions that are
[1:58:03] made offline.
[1:58:05] Um, to just go in, you know,
[1:58:05] in.
[1:58:06] Writing or not.
[1:58:08] Council member johnson.
[1:58:09] Thank you.
[1:58:11] >> um, MR. Jones.
[1:58:11] >> or.
[1:58:12] Council member MAY I'd like to
[1:58:14] get a hard copy of that math.
[1:58:14] >> that.
[1:58:15] We great.
[1:58:15] Thank you.
[1:58:17] Um.
[1:58:18] >> chief, thank you for your.
[1:58:19] Presentation and thank you for
[1:58:22] the intent to reduce violence
[1:58:24] and and stop the teen takeovers
[1:58:24] .
[1:58:25] .
[1:58:25] >> since we've.
[1:58:27] >> been talking about this, has
[1:58:29] there been any reduction in the
[1:58:30] teen takeovers?
[1:58:31] Yes, ma'am.
[1:58:34] We have had a reported 40 teen
[1:58:35] takeovers.
[1:58:37] Um, and seven of those were I'm
[1:58:38] sorry, three of them we were
[1:58:40] able to prevent to get ahead of
[1:58:42] and so we are starting to see
[1:58:43] where that number is going
[1:58:43] down.
[1:58:44] I think the word is getting
[1:58:44] out.
[1:58:47] I think parents are hearing
[1:58:48] what we are talking about and
[1:58:49] they are encouraging their
[1:58:50] young people not to be in.
[1:58:51] >> those.
[1:58:52] Places or they're making sure
[1:58:53] that they're not part of teen
[1:58:54] takeovers.
[1:58:55] Okay.
[1:58:56] >> so there has been a
[1:58:58] reduction in the point of this
[1:59:01] curfew is to reduce those teen
[1:59:02] takeovers, right?
[1:59:03] yes, ma'am.
[1:59:04] It's been a reduction since we
[1:59:05] have been talking.
[1:59:05] >> about it.
[1:59:06] >> right.
[1:59:06] Thank you.
[1:59:07] >> um.
[1:59:08] >> is curfew.
[1:59:10] Violation probable.
[1:59:12] Cause for a traffic stop?
[1:59:13] Um.
[1:59:17] >> thank you.
[1:59:18] >> councilmember johnson.
[1:59:19] And so in order for an officer.
[1:59:20] >> to.
[1:59:21] Conduct a traffic stop, they
[1:59:22] would have to have reasonable
[1:59:22] suspicion.
[1:59:24] Um, that means reasonable,
[1:59:26] articulable and specific facts
[1:59:27] along with the inferences from
[1:59:29] those facts that a crime has or
[1:59:31] is about to be committed.
[1:59:33] And so in order to determine
[1:59:34] whether or not they are facts
[1:59:35] that the curfew is about to be
[1:59:37] violated, the officers, for
[1:59:39] example, would have to see a
[1:59:43] juvenile out and try to make a
[1:59:45] visible um assessment of their
[1:59:47] age and if that child were to
[1:59:48] appear to be less than for
[1:59:51] example the change to 17 if
[1:59:52] they appear to be a minor, that
[1:59:54] would be reasonable suspicion
[1:59:55] for an officer to pull that car
[1:59:56] over.
[1:59:59] Okay.
[2:00:00] Thank you.
[2:00:02] Um.
[2:00:08] Kind of off topic and is the.
[2:00:09] Smell of.
[2:00:10] Marijuana.
[2:00:11] >> still probable.
[2:00:13] Cause there's for, uh, even if
[2:00:16] it's legal, cbd is still
[2:00:16] probable cause to search the
[2:00:17] car.
[2:00:18] Yes.
[2:00:19] >> okay.
[2:00:19] >> the sight.
[2:00:20] And order of marijuana is still
[2:00:22] probable cause to search and
[2:00:23] there was new case law.
[2:00:25] Forgive me for not recalling
[2:00:26] that name right now, but there
[2:00:28] was a case as recently as last
[2:00:30] winter that.
[2:00:30] >> the north carolina.
[2:00:31] Court of appeals affirmed that
[2:00:33] sight or odor of marijuana is
[2:00:33] probable cause.
[2:00:34] >> to.
[2:00:35] Search even with the existing
[2:00:36] is existence.
[2:00:40] Excuse me of legal cbd and hemp
[2:00:40] products.
[2:00:40] Okay.
[2:00:41] All right.
[2:00:41] That's a hope.
[2:00:42] You all know.
[2:00:42] >> okay.
[2:00:43] All right.
[2:00:45] Um, next.
[2:00:45] Um.
[2:00:47] >> we.
[2:00:51] >> um I.
[2:00:52] >> would agree with the pilot.
[2:00:55] I'd like to see us taking more
[2:00:56] action.
[2:00:57] I spoke to someone today.
[2:00:58] Thank you, doctor stewart.
[2:00:59] >> for the work you're doing.
[2:01:00] I thought I spoke to a
[2:01:01] community.
[2:01:02] Partner.
[2:01:03] >> um, who's.
[2:01:03] >> going to.
[2:01:05] I think be running the schools
[2:01:07] out charlotte program.
[2:01:10] And so I think we need more
[2:01:10] programs.
[2:01:11] Like that.
[2:01:12] >> I'd like to see this going
[2:01:14] to the intergovernmental
[2:01:15] committee so we can bring
[2:01:18] county partners cms, uh
[2:01:19] partners to the table perhaps
[2:01:21] putting a date of birth on this
[2:01:21] .
[2:01:21] uh.
[2:01:24] >> children's id and then we
[2:01:26] can look at um, more graduated
[2:01:29] uh, curfew if we needed to um,
[2:01:31] another thing a youth summit
[2:01:31] council.
[2:01:32] >> member.
[2:01:33] Brown we know that she had a
[2:01:34] great youth summit.
[2:01:35] I think this would be a great
[2:01:36] time for us to bring youth.
[2:01:37] Together and.
[2:01:40] Maybe, uh, doctor stewart's
[2:01:41] department manage something
[2:01:42] like.
[2:01:42] >> that or.
[2:01:43] Okay, good.
[2:01:45] Already in the works.
[2:01:45] Good.
[2:01:46] Yeah.
[2:01:46] We need some.
[2:01:47] We need that right now.
[2:01:48] Thank you.
[2:01:49] It was a youth who spoke today.
[2:01:51] She she'd be great as well.
[2:01:55] Um, yeah, I'd like to see a a
[2:01:57] pilot program.
[2:02:00] Before we implement the curfew
[2:02:00] .
[2:02:02] Um, let's look at partnership.
[2:02:03] More partnership grants.
[2:02:04] Um.
[2:02:06] Intergovernmental committee.
[2:02:07] Um more.
[2:02:08] Opportunities.
[2:02:08] >> um.
[2:02:11] For third spaces, a youth
[2:02:14] summit and bringing youth on.
[2:02:15] Board perhaps.
[2:02:18] To volunteer to to uh look at
[2:02:20] social media because we know we
[2:02:22] don't want this to impact the
[2:02:23] students who are trying to work
[2:02:25] and date and do normal.
[2:02:25] Teenage stuff.
[2:02:26] I think that.
[2:02:27] They would be on.
[2:02:28] Board in helping.
[2:02:29] >> us.
[2:02:29] So they.
[2:02:30] >> could.
[2:02:30] Get involved.
[2:02:31] >> through that youth summit
[2:02:33] through volunteering and
[2:02:35] reporting where these teen
[2:02:36] takeovers are being held.
[2:02:37] You know, they could we could
[2:02:37] have a.
[2:02:41] Hip hop hotline or tip website
[2:02:42] or something.
[2:02:42] >> like that.
[2:02:42] I think.
[2:02:44] This is the time to engage the
[2:02:45] youth.
[2:02:46] And really help us.
[2:02:47] We have.
[2:02:49] Heard that just talking about
[2:02:50] this and addressing this the
[2:02:53] teen takeovers are already
[2:02:53] reduced.
[2:02:55] So I think more.
[2:02:57] Outreach and engagement with
[2:02:59] the community um is our
[2:02:59] solution.
[2:03:02] Um uh through a pilot program
[2:03:03] and then let's revisit after
[2:03:06] there's been some uh we
[2:03:06] established baseline data.
[2:03:07] Before the.
[2:03:10] Pilot and perhaps report back
[2:03:11] after six months on.
[2:03:14] Juvenile violent incidents,
[2:03:16] arrest teen takeover events.
[2:03:19] Repeat offenses and um, just
[2:03:20] overall activity.
[2:03:20] Thank you.
[2:03:22] That's all I have.
[2:03:22] >> thank you.
[2:03:23] Council member johnson, council
[2:03:23] .
[2:03:24] >> member graham.
[2:03:25] And then council member driggs.
[2:03:27] Uh, thank you, MR. Mayor.
[2:03:29] Uh, I didn't have a 9 P.M.
[2:03:29] Curfew.
[2:03:30] I had two street.
[2:03:31] >> lights.
[2:03:31] .
[2:03:32] >> right.
[2:03:33] Um.
[2:03:34] >> I will be on the tennis
[2:03:36] court and I'll be riding that
[2:03:37] bike as fast as I can.
[2:03:40] To get home because I know if I
[2:03:41] didn't make it there was
[2:03:43] accountability at the end of
[2:03:44] that ride.
[2:03:46] And so I want to thank you for
[2:03:48] your leadership in bringing
[2:03:49] this forward.
[2:03:52] Uh, this is a part of a crime
[2:03:54] reduction strategy.
[2:03:56] Big picture going back council
[2:03:58] member wally tim and you met
[2:04:00] two years ago in my basement
[2:04:03] and there was a shooting on new
[2:04:03] year's eve.
[2:04:03] Right.
[2:04:06] And we've been looking at a
[2:04:08] wide variety of ordinance to
[2:04:11] update, to enhance, to ensure
[2:04:13] that we are doing everything
[2:04:15] possible to curb crime.
[2:04:17] And this is yet just another
[2:04:19] example for the record there's
[2:04:20] already the youth or um
[2:04:21] ordinance.
[2:04:21] Right?
[2:04:22] I think we should say that this
[2:04:23] is nothing new.
[2:04:26] We're just amending it to
[2:04:26] reflect current environment.
[2:04:28] Uh what's happening on the
[2:04:30] ground I think um I agree with
[2:04:32] my colleagues that it should be
[2:04:35] a pilot program narrowly
[2:04:38] tailored youth led.
[2:04:38] Right.
[2:04:39] Uh, and then secondly, there
[2:04:42] are a wide variety of
[2:04:43] organizations in the community
[2:04:44] that see shine kennedy up there
[2:04:47] does a great job bringing 300
[2:04:48] kids together.
[2:04:51] Um, cambridge is doing this
[2:04:53] charlotte so 1st SEPTEMBER
[2:04:54] fifth family oriented for the
[2:04:57] youth mothers fathers grandma
[2:04:59] moms grandfather all coming
[2:05:01] together a safe environment
[2:05:02] great activity.
[2:05:04] Uh, I'm doing the tennis camp
[2:05:07] for 80 kids SEPTEMBER 12th.
[2:05:09] So there's a lot of people in
[2:05:11] this community love to work.
[2:05:11] With you.
[2:05:12] >> doctor stewart, to ensure
[2:05:15] that there's balance between
[2:05:18] the ordinance narrowly tailored
[2:05:18] uh.
[2:05:20] Youth led.
[2:05:23] Um pilot program which is again
[2:05:27] pilot your work is ongoing and
[2:05:29] it can't be done when there's
[2:05:31] an issue on the table it has to
[2:05:33] be done when no one's looking
[2:05:35] in terms of being very
[2:05:36] intentional about working with
[2:05:38] our youth, we solve the problem
[2:05:39] about proximity.
[2:05:42] We have a school in every
[2:05:44] district in the city and the
[2:05:46] county middle schools, high
[2:05:48] schools on weekends when the
[2:05:49] football season is over the
[2:05:51] gyms are empty, the fields are
[2:05:53] empty, the track is empty year
[2:05:53] round.
[2:05:56] There has to be a way for us to
[2:05:59] rally around this community.
[2:06:01] Getting the resources necessary
[2:06:03] to do proper program throughout
[2:06:05] the year for our.
[2:06:07] Kids, right?
[2:06:09] >> and so we can't do it when
[2:06:11] there's a shooting or a
[2:06:11] stabbing.
[2:06:13] We can't do it when there's a
[2:06:13] teen take over.
[2:06:15] We got to do it because it's
[2:06:16] the right thing to do.
[2:06:19] And so I just encourage us to
[2:06:19] move.
[2:06:19] Forward.
[2:06:22] >> uh, parallel with working
[2:06:25] with doctor steward to ensure
[2:06:26] that we're doing everything
[2:06:29] that we can to include others
[2:06:30] churches, nonprofits, to
[2:06:32] schools, uh, mecklenburg county
[2:06:33] because they have parking.
[2:06:34] Rec we have.
[2:06:35] Rec centers.
[2:06:35] Right.
[2:06:37] But more importantly, boy,
[2:06:38] there's schools throughout the
[2:06:40] county high school, middle
[2:06:40] school.
[2:06:42] That's on weekends.
[2:06:43] Are you know.
[2:06:45] Thank you.
[2:06:46] >> thank you.
[2:06:47] >> council member graham
[2:06:48] council member driggs.
[2:06:49] You're the final.
[2:06:51] Discussant.
[2:06:52] Caboose.
[2:06:55] Uh, chief, um, takeovers.
[2:06:56] Are a problem.
[2:06:57] >> we asked you to do something
[2:06:58] about it.
[2:06:59] You're proposing this?
[2:07:01] I think our strong inclination
[2:07:02] should be to back you up.
[2:07:03] You're the expert in these
[2:07:04] matters.
[2:07:04] Uh.
[2:07:06] >> we are making you
[2:07:07] responsible for success.
[2:07:08] So, uh.
[2:07:11] I will certainly, uh, want to
[2:07:13] see us proceed with a curfew.
[2:07:14] Um.
[2:07:18] >> I will say that, uh, some of
[2:07:18] this comes down to how you
[2:07:19] imagine it's going to.
[2:07:20] Work and.
[2:07:23] I believe that some people are
[2:07:25] painting a criminal eyes and
[2:07:26] they're they're painting.
[2:07:27] >> uh, a really.
[2:07:30] Difficult picture in practice.
[2:07:32] What I imagine happens here is
[2:07:33] that young people.
[2:07:34] Kind of go.
[2:07:35] >> about their business.
[2:07:37] They probably fall under said
[2:07:38] these exceptions, uh, they're
[2:07:41] not going to be accosted and
[2:07:42] stopped on the street because
[2:07:44] they will be kind of presumed
[2:07:46] to be out, uh, legitimately.
[2:07:48] You can't judge a person's age
[2:07:49] just by looking at them.
[2:07:51] And so not only do you not have
[2:07:52] the resources, I just don't
[2:07:54] think it's your intent to go
[2:07:55] around and challenge.
[2:07:56] >> every individual.
[2:07:58] And I'm willing personally.
[2:07:59] >> to trust that.
[2:08:00] So uh.
[2:08:03] That means that uh on.
[2:08:05] The other hand, when you see
[2:08:07] something that your officers
[2:08:08] recognize as being something
[2:08:10] dangerous that could be taking
[2:08:11] shape and they want to go up
[2:08:13] and do something about it,
[2:08:14] they've got they can't just
[2:08:16] walk up to those kids and say
[2:08:18] guys, you know, please go home
[2:08:20] and the kids just stick their
[2:08:20] tongue out right?
[2:08:23] And so I envision this as a way
[2:08:25] of the officers if necessary.
[2:08:26] Uh.
[2:08:29] >> requiring somebody who isn't
[2:08:31] cooperative uh, versus the
[2:08:32] ordinance to go home.
[2:08:33] Or to leave.
[2:08:37] And then uh, so that's kind of
[2:08:39] a question of how you expect
[2:08:39] that.
[2:08:40] Will work.
[2:08:42] And uh, I have thought also
[2:08:43] about the pilot idea.
[2:08:45] Uh.
[2:08:46] >> and I agree that something
[2:08:47] like that needs to happen.
[2:08:50] My only issue about a pilot as
[2:08:51] you think about this is how
[2:08:52] long right?
[2:08:54] So if you realize that over the
[2:08:56] span of a year there's a cycle,
[2:08:58] right, that there are different
[2:08:59] conditions in the different
[2:08:59] seasons.
[2:09:02] Uh, so do you do a pilot for a
[2:09:04] year that sounds like a long
[2:09:06] time or do you do a pilot for
[2:09:06] six months?
[2:09:07] Not sure.
[2:09:10] So uh, one possibility I
[2:09:11] thought of is we go ahead.
[2:09:13] We implement.
[2:09:16] This curfew and then we just
[2:09:20] get ongoing reports ongoing.
[2:09:22] We we listen for complaints or
[2:09:25] for for feedback from the
[2:09:27] community at any time we can
[2:09:27] change it.
[2:09:29] This council has the authority
[2:09:30] at any time if.
[2:09:31] >> we don't like the way.
[2:09:32] It's going to just change it.
[2:09:35] So it MAY not be that the pilot
[2:09:35] is busy.
[2:09:37] I'm not at all opposed to it.
[2:09:38] I'm just saying in practice I
[2:09:40] wonder if we should just start
[2:09:42] down this road and uh and sort
[2:09:44] of see how we go.
[2:09:47] Uh, and I do think that we can
[2:09:48] get the kind of information
[2:09:49] that is suggested from you.
[2:09:51] We can hear about how many
[2:09:53] instances there have been uh or
[2:09:55] uh how many of these takeovers
[2:09:55] were averted.
[2:09:56] Is it working?
[2:09:58] Uh, the problem with data is
[2:10:00] this is not very scientific.
[2:10:02] I think the data from another
[2:10:02] community is a.
[2:10:04] Different mix, uh, and
[2:10:05] different circumstances and at
[2:10:07] a different time before
[2:10:10] takeovers became vogue uh, is
[2:10:11] is not going to be a good
[2:10:13] guidepost was the best
[2:10:14] guidepost for us is what
[2:10:17] happens uh, as we start here
[2:10:18] uh, and you know, if there's a
[2:10:20] backlash immediately and we get
[2:10:21] a whole lot of reports of kids
[2:10:22] saying oh my GOD, you know, uh
[2:10:24] ,I was I was in handcuffs
[2:10:26] because I'm 16, you know, I'm
[2:10:27] sure that would cause a lot of
[2:10:28] us to think again.
[2:10:32] So, uh, please keep working on
[2:10:32] this.
[2:10:33] I look forward to how you
[2:10:34] process what you heard tonight
[2:10:34] .
[2:10:36] Uh, I just want you to know
[2:10:37] that I do support, uh, what
[2:10:38] you're doing and the idea of a
[2:10:39] curfew.
[2:10:39] Thank you.
[2:10:40] Thank you, council member
[2:10:41] driggs.
[2:10:42] Chief patterson, do you have
[2:10:43] any other comments?
[2:10:44] And then I don't want to invite
[2:10:45] any other discussion because I
[2:10:46] think everyone who has asked to
[2:10:47] be heard has been heard.
[2:10:48] We want to make sure there's no
[2:10:50] other business from council but
[2:10:51] chief, do you have any other
[2:10:51] comments?
[2:10:51] >> I would.
[2:10:52] Just close by saying that.
[2:10:53] >> I've.
[2:10:54] Listened to everything that
[2:10:55] council members have stated.
[2:10:57] Um thank you so much for your
[2:10:57] input.
[2:10:59] Um, at this time if if it's
[2:11:00] agreeable to you we'd like to
[2:11:02] explore the specific provisions
[2:11:02] of.
[2:11:02] >> a.
[2:11:03] Pilot and.
[2:11:04] Also talk.
[2:11:04] >> about.
[2:11:05] The partnerships that would
[2:11:07] become as a result of it.
[2:11:09] So if that is okay with the
[2:11:10] council to proceed in that
[2:11:11] manner we would like to do
[2:11:11] that.
[2:11:11] Yes.
[2:11:14] >> anything from council okay.
[2:11:15] Thank you.
[2:11:17] >> yeah fine.
[2:11:20] Question whether you want to
[2:11:21] move forward with the pilot is
[2:11:22] that moving forward with this
[2:11:24] 9:00 time or we're saying
[2:11:25] separate we're moving forward
[2:11:28] with the pilot first to start
[2:11:29] that conversation.
[2:11:31] Are you interpreting the yes
[2:11:33] from this council as changing
[2:11:36] the current 11 P.M. Curfew time
[2:11:38] down to 9 P.M.?
[2:11:38] Yes.
[2:11:40] >> I'm interpreting that we
[2:11:42] move forward with a 9 P.M. So
[2:11:44] that we can gather data on a 9
[2:11:44] P.M. Curfew.
[2:11:45] Then I am a no.
[2:11:47] I am fine with us moving with
[2:11:49] the pilot I am not supporting
[2:11:52] under any circumstance us
[2:11:54] moving that time down to 9 P.M.
[2:11:56] As we're going back into the
[2:11:57] school time because a lot of
[2:11:58] what we have seen.
[2:12:00] Has happened over the summer
[2:12:03] not during the school period.
[2:12:05] So to even move forward with it
[2:12:06] it is concerning.
[2:12:07] So we do.
[2:12:08] Not have an action.
[2:12:10] Item tonight as I understand
[2:12:10] it.
[2:12:12] Chief, you will make the.
[2:12:13] Suggestions that you've made
[2:12:14] just now.
[2:12:15] You'll make those proposed
[2:12:15] changes.
[2:12:18] It will come back to us for an
[2:12:20] action item at that point
[2:12:20] there.
[2:12:21] >> will presumably be a vote on
[2:12:22] a motion.
[2:12:22] So I.
[2:12:25] Think we are finished in chief
[2:12:25] .
[2:12:26] Um, is there anything new?
[2:12:27] Thank you.
[2:12:28] >> just would you like to.
[2:12:29] >> I don't think she's alone in
[2:12:30] her interpretation.
[2:12:32] But I think we've got a time
[2:12:33] for a motion on that.
[2:12:34] >> and a.
[2:12:36] >> time for an action item
[2:12:36] there.
[2:12:36] With mayor.
[2:12:37] >> we're not talking about a
[2:12:38] motion.
[2:12:40] What the chief just asked for
[2:12:41] is a nod from this council for
[2:12:43] her to continue down this path
[2:12:44] that she started on.
[2:12:47] What I am sharing is the
[2:12:48] concern that I have is the path
[2:12:49] that she has.
[2:12:52] Chosen is a dual path of both
[2:12:54] adding to 9 P.M..
[2:12:56] And looking at a pallet that
[2:12:56] is.
[2:12:59] We've heard multiple variations
[2:13:00] of that conversation.
[2:13:02] So in order to be clear since
[2:13:04] it is the manager's
[2:13:06] responsibility to implement.
[2:13:07] Council's.
[2:13:11] >> objective through staff.
[2:13:13] I am not saying.
[2:13:13] >> that.
[2:13:14] I am signing off of this staff
[2:13:14] .
[2:13:17] Member to institute a 9.
[2:13:18] >> P.M..
[2:13:19] She can't she she's.
[2:13:22] One that is what I I just ask
[2:13:23] for the clarification of if
[2:13:23] your.
[2:13:26] Interpretation is to move
[2:13:26] forward with both.
[2:13:28] 9:00 and a pallet.
[2:13:29] .
[2:13:29] >> there is no.
[2:13:31] Action from this council
[2:13:32] tonight based on what's before
[2:13:32] us.
[2:13:33] Now there.
[2:13:35] Presumably will be.
[2:13:36] Something further that's
[2:13:37] presented to us.
[2:13:38] Perhaps at that point.
[2:13:39] >> there will be a motion and
[2:13:40] then there'll be a discussion.
[2:13:41] Of that if there's.
[2:13:42] a second.
[2:13:43] So I think for tonight what
[2:13:44] we've had is an information.
[2:13:47] Session and I presume the
[2:13:48] chief.
[2:13:48] >> will come.
[2:13:49] Back to us.
[2:13:50] Uh, and.
[2:13:51] Propose some type.
[2:13:52] >> of motion that will take up
[2:13:53] at that point and we'll have a
[2:13:55] full discussion of the merits
[2:13:56] of that item.
[2:13:57] Yes, sir.
[2:14:00] Okay with that thank you chief,
[2:14:01] I appreciate we.
[2:14:03] Appreciate your presentation
[2:14:05] and that takes us to uh
[2:14:05] anything else.
[2:14:06] >> from the manager.
[2:14:07] All right.
[2:14:09] Our next policy item is
[2:14:10] amendments to the charlotte
[2:14:11] streets map and charlotte
[2:14:13] streets manual for item seven.
[2:14:14] Is there a motion for.
[2:14:15] Approval a and.
[2:14:16] B second.
[2:14:18] Is there any discussion.
[2:14:18] ?
[2:14:19] All right.
[2:14:21] All in favor of approving the
[2:14:23] motion for a and b and item
[2:14:25] seven which is amendments to
[2:14:26] the charlotte streets map and
[2:14:28] charlotte streets manual as
[2:14:30] described in that item seven
[2:14:32] please raise your hand any
[2:14:33] opposed.
[2:14:34] All right.
[2:14:35] >> there's one opposed.
[2:14:38] Oh all right that takes us to
[2:14:41] the other policy item which is
[2:14:43] um our next item is parking on
[2:14:43] sidewalk ordinance.
[2:14:45] Amendment for item eight.
[2:14:47] Do I have a motion to adopt an
[2:14:48] ordinance approving an
[2:14:51] amendment to chapter 14 article
[2:14:54] four, section 14 dash 130 of
[2:14:56] the city code as recommended by
[2:14:58] the budget, governance and
[2:14:59] intergovernmental relations
[2:14:59] committee.
[2:15:01] Is there a.
[2:15:02] >> motion so moved?
[2:15:02] Second.
[2:15:05] >> any discussion council
[2:15:06] member mayfield and then
[2:15:06] council.
[2:15:06] Member johnson.
[2:15:08] Thank you MR. Mayor.
[2:15:08] >> I have.
[2:15:08] >> a.
[2:15:09] Question for staff.
[2:15:10] I want to get.
[2:15:11] Clarification on.
[2:15:12] This sidewalk as.
[2:15:13] Far is.
[2:15:16] Where does the policy language
[2:15:19] land when it comes to these
[2:15:21] scooters and these other forms
[2:15:23] of transportation that are
[2:15:25] currently blocking sidewalks?
[2:15:27] And if there is a bike lane
[2:15:28] you're starting to see them
[2:15:30] show up in the bike lanes as
[2:15:30] well.
[2:15:34] So exactly how does this know
[2:15:37] parking on sidewalks help in
[2:15:38] area and in community.
[2:15:40] Where sidewalks are now?
[2:15:44] See other forms of mobile
[2:15:44] transportation.
[2:15:46] Uh thank you.
[2:15:47] Council member mayfield lisa.
[2:15:48] Flowers with.
[2:15:48] >> the city.
[2:15:49] >> attorney's office.
[2:15:52] So scooters and.
[2:15:55] E-bikes and uh, regular
[2:15:56] bicycles are.
[2:15:57] Allowed to park on the
[2:15:58] sidewalks.
[2:15:59] There are.
[2:16:00] Uh.
[2:16:01] >> permit requirements.
[2:16:02] For our.
[2:16:03] >> e-bike and.
[2:16:04] E-scooter providers.
[2:16:07] that require them to educate
[2:16:09] riders of where to park.
[2:16:11] Um, they're supposed to leave
[2:16:11] four.
[2:16:12] >> feet.
[2:16:14] Space for pedestrians.
[2:16:15] Um.
[2:16:18] >> we they're supposed to they
[2:16:18] get a complaint.
[2:16:20] They're supposed to, uh, remove
[2:16:22] that scooter or move it within
[2:16:23] an hour.
[2:16:23] Uh.
[2:16:26] >> we also have provisions that
[2:16:26] allows the.
[2:16:30] Director of transportation to
[2:16:31] revoke a permit if we get lots
[2:16:33] of complaints or reduce the
[2:16:35] number of bikes and e-bikes, uh
[2:16:36] ,e-scooters that they can.
[2:16:37] Have.
[2:16:42] >> um, in the right of way the
[2:16:44] there is that so the scooters
[2:16:47] and bikes can park and can ride
[2:16:47] on the sidewalks.
[2:16:52] This just addresses the
[2:16:54] driveways and and impeding the
[2:16:56] sidewalk at driveways where
[2:16:58] vehicles cannot block the the
[2:16:59] drive the sidewalk.
[2:17:01] So we're really looking at
[2:17:04] mainly residential area and I
[2:17:07] had mentioned previously that
[2:17:11] we are building smaller units
[2:17:13] and also shorter driveways but
[2:17:15] we're also allowing development
[2:17:17] happening on much more narrow
[2:17:18] streets.
[2:17:21] So there's no on street parking
[2:17:21] .
[2:17:24] The driveway itself is a short
[2:17:26] driveway so part of the vehicle
[2:17:29] MAY be blocking the sidewalk.
[2:17:33] So I want I'm thinking of the
[2:17:35] individual that's in the
[2:17:35] motorized wheelchair.
[2:17:39] Uh and when they're trying to
[2:17:42] get exercise go out to the um
[2:17:45] community how that's actually
[2:17:47] going to be enforced with the
[2:17:48] number of neighborhoods that we
[2:17:50] have and the number of
[2:17:50] neighborhoods that we keep.
[2:17:51] And pullback.
[2:17:55] How effective this is going to
[2:17:57] be when our policy language has
[2:18:00] created shorter driveways and
[2:18:03] vehicles are blocking the
[2:18:03] driveway.
[2:18:07] I just want to understand how.
[2:18:08] Enforcement would.
[2:18:09] >> look on that.
[2:18:12] We did look into uh driveway
[2:18:14] length so we have a minimum in
[2:18:16] the youdo for driveways.
[2:18:19] They have to be a minimum of
[2:18:22] ten feet ten feet wide and 20ft
[2:18:23] long.
[2:18:25] Um and that was done
[2:18:27] specifically to avoid the issue
[2:18:27] of of.
[2:18:32] Vehicles impeding sidewalks.
[2:18:34] Cars of course have gotten
[2:18:37] larger and so but it still will
[2:18:39] cover a full sized vehicle.
[2:18:41] Um smaller vehicles you MAY.
[2:18:42] >> be.
[2:18:46] Able to fit to most to two car
[2:18:47] garages are going to be at
[2:18:48] least.
[2:18:49] 20ft wide and the driveway is
[2:18:49] going to also.
[2:18:50] Be that.
[2:18:53] Wide so that that uh provides
[2:18:53] some more.
[2:18:56] But the bottom line is that
[2:18:58] it's an ada violation to block
[2:18:59] the sidewalk.
[2:19:00] The the issue.
[2:19:02] With the scooters and things
[2:19:03] like that it would be a
[2:19:06] separate type ordinance that if
[2:19:06] we.
[2:19:07] >> you know, we can certainly
[2:19:07] look.
[2:19:09] At making it an ordinance
[2:19:10] instead of in our permits.
[2:19:14] But right now our ordinance um
[2:19:16] provides an exception for bikes
[2:19:18] and e-scooters and e-bikes.
[2:19:20] thank you, council.
[2:19:20] Member johnson.
[2:19:22] Thank you.
[2:19:24] >> if it's an thank you for
[2:19:25] that information, if it's an
[2:19:27] ada violation that's the
[2:19:30] exception in the ordinance.
[2:19:31] Excuse the violation.
[2:19:32] .
[2:19:36] >> no no again our our permit
[2:19:39] requirements are that um they
[2:19:41] should be educating their
[2:19:42] riders.
[2:19:44] Uh, we can we can look at what
[2:19:47] they're providing on their, uh
[2:19:49] ,app to make sure that they're
[2:19:49] doing that.
[2:19:50] Uh.
[2:19:53] >> they also are to provide 24
[2:19:55] seven support.
[2:19:59] So anybody rider non rider the
[2:20:00] city can contact them when
[2:20:02] they're when they see something
[2:20:04] that's not right um either
[2:20:06] parking or somebody speeding
[2:20:08] driving recklessly that that
[2:20:09] sort of thing they can report
[2:20:09] that.
[2:20:10] Who is to the right to report.
[2:20:11] To whom.
[2:20:12] .
[2:20:14] >> well they can call 311 um
[2:20:17] but they can also call the
[2:20:19] there's provisions on the app
[2:20:22] on the I forget who it is that
[2:20:23] here who we have um.
[2:20:27] It's uh line like for instance
[2:20:28] lime they should have something
[2:20:30] on their website that provides
[2:20:34] a number for a rider or non
[2:20:36] rider to report and then in the
[2:20:38] app they also have those those
[2:20:39] provisions to.
[2:20:41] Where you can report a problem
[2:20:42] .
[2:20:42] Are you.
[2:20:43] >> talking about.
[2:20:45] >> scooters scooters and
[2:20:45] e-bikes.
[2:20:46] >> or e-bikes.
[2:20:47] no okay so.
[2:20:50] No my concern you talked about
[2:20:52] residential driveways needing
[2:20:53] to be 20ft.
[2:20:56] Um the same information from
[2:20:59] sarah hazel uh, the full size
[2:21:00] car is 16 to 18ft.
[2:21:03] So only one if the driveway is
[2:21:04] closed or if they don't um
[2:21:05] excuse me garage where they.
[2:21:06] >> don't.
[2:21:06] Have a garage.
[2:21:08] Only one full sized car can fit
[2:21:09] in that driveway.
[2:21:10] That's correct.
[2:21:13] So we just can't.
[2:21:14] >> have it both ways.
[2:21:15] We just don't get to have it
[2:21:17] both ways where we're building
[2:21:18] so much density.
[2:21:19] Shorter driveways.
[2:21:21] No parking on the street.
[2:21:25] Uh, density and then not
[2:21:25] allowing.
[2:21:27] Residents to be able.
[2:21:28] >> to park in their driveway.
[2:21:32] Without a code violation.
[2:21:33] So I won't.
[2:21:33] >> be.
[2:21:33] Supporting this for.
[2:21:34] >> that reason.
[2:21:36] You know, this is a very
[2:21:36] expensive city.
[2:21:39] Um, more than sometimes more
[2:21:41] than one person or one family
[2:21:42] live in a home.
[2:21:43] And they have cars.
[2:21:45] So I think.
[2:21:46] That I think we.
[2:21:47] Should be more focused on
[2:21:47] scooters.
[2:21:49] On the sidewalk.
[2:21:50] Um, my husband almost got hit
[2:21:51] by someone riding.
[2:21:52] >> a scooter.
[2:21:54] On the sidewalk so I think
[2:21:56] that's a priority and I get the
[2:21:57] .
[2:21:57] >> whole.
[2:21:57] Ada violation.
[2:21:59] i don't know what the solution
[2:22:00] is but I won't support.
[2:22:01] Um.
[2:22:03] >> fining individuals who.
[2:22:04] >> are.
[2:22:04] Parking in their.
[2:22:06] Driveways when we know our.
[2:22:07] >> ordinance.
[2:22:10] Uh only allows for a minimum or
[2:22:11] is.
[2:22:11] >> it maximum.
[2:22:12] Is this.
[2:22:14] >> max is a minimum minimum.
[2:22:14] And some.
[2:22:15] >> developers are only building
[2:22:16] .
[2:22:17] Minimum standards.
[2:22:17] Uh.
[2:22:18] One car.
[2:22:19] >> in the driveway.
[2:22:22] So that's my comment.
[2:22:22] Thank you.
[2:22:23] Will there.
[2:22:25] >> any other comments or
[2:22:26] questions and I would ask you
[2:22:27] to clarify one thing.
[2:22:29] You referenced the ada in there
[2:22:30] and just how does the.
[2:22:31] Americans with disabilities.
[2:22:34] Act fit into this discussion?
[2:22:34] >> because I don't know if that
[2:22:35] was clear.
[2:22:35] Right.
[2:22:37] >> so sidewalks are one of our
[2:22:38] programs, services and
[2:22:39] activities that we provide.
[2:22:40] Um.
[2:22:41] >> if we.
[2:22:41] Provide a sidewalk.
[2:22:44] We should be making sure that
[2:22:45] those sidewalks are not.
[2:22:49] Uh obstructed.
[2:22:50] And the current ordinance gave
[2:22:51] a.
[2:22:54] Uh exception for parking and
[2:22:54] driveways.
[2:22:58] So we had to to we had a
[2:23:00] disconnect between the two
[2:23:04] between 14 dash 130 and 14 dash
[2:23:08] 2016 um 14 dash 2016 deals with
[2:23:09] illegal parking.
[2:23:12] 14 dash 130 is more about
[2:23:14] operation um but it also says
[2:23:14] parking.
[2:23:19] Um so vehicles could not drive
[2:23:22] on the sidewalks or park on the
[2:23:24] sidewalks under 14 dash 130
[2:23:25] unless they were in a.
[2:23:27] Driveway which made it
[2:23:28] difficult for cmpd to.
[2:23:30] Enforce.
[2:23:32] >> council member mia yes.
[2:23:34] Uh thank you, mayor harrington
[2:23:34] .
[2:23:35] Thank you for that
[2:23:35] clarification.
[2:23:39] In terms of why this amendment
[2:23:42] I mean this ordinance needs to
[2:23:42] be amended.
[2:23:47] Um, because I have received
[2:23:49] some complaints from residents
[2:23:50] there.
[2:23:50] Um.
[2:23:52] >> either they.
[2:23:55] >> are pushing a wheelchair or
[2:23:57] are on a wheelchair or.
[2:23:58] Trying to.
[2:23:58] >> push a.
[2:24:01] Stroller but they don't have an
[2:24:02] access to safe sidewalks even.
[2:24:04] Though sidewalks are built.
[2:24:04] But they are.
[2:24:07] Obstructed by a vehicle so this
[2:24:07] .
[2:24:09] Helps us address those.
[2:24:11] Concerns, especially those with
[2:24:14] special needs and families like
[2:24:16] mine who are trying to.
[2:24:21] Not trying to make sure that we
[2:24:22] are using the infrastructure
[2:24:24] that is there without having to
[2:24:27] get outside where there might
[2:24:29] be traffic moving traffic.
[2:24:31] So I'll be supporting this.
[2:24:32] Here there.
[2:24:34] Any other questions or comments
[2:24:35] from council members who have
[2:24:35] not been hurt?
[2:24:37] All right.
[2:24:38] >> there has been a motion and
[2:24:41] a second and discussion on the
[2:24:42] uh motion to adopt an ordinance
[2:24:43] .
[2:24:43] Approving an amendment.
[2:24:44] >> to.
[2:24:45] Chapter 14.
[2:24:46] >> article four, section 14
[2:24:48] when 30 city code is
[2:24:49] recommended by the budget.
[2:24:50] Governance and.
[2:24:52] >> intergovernmental relations
[2:24:52] committee.
[2:24:53] Uh, all in favor.
[2:24:54] Please raise.
[2:24:54] >> your hand.
[2:24:56] All opposed?
[2:24:58] Okay.
[2:24:59] >> the ayes have it.
[2:24:59] It passes.
[2:25:00] Okay.
[2:25:02] We move to our business agenda.
[2:25:05] And our first business item is
[2:25:07] for the youth diversion program
[2:25:09] interlocal agreement for item
[2:25:11] nine is there a motion
[2:25:13] reflected in our um agenda a
[2:25:15] motion to adopt a resolution
[2:25:17] authorizing the city manager.
[2:25:17] Or his.
[2:25:19] >> designee to negotiate and
[2:25:22] execute a revenue inter local
[2:25:23] agreement with mecklenburg
[2:25:24] county through which the city
[2:25:26] will receive funding to support
[2:25:26] the.
[2:25:27] Youth diversion program?
[2:25:28] So moved.
[2:25:30] Again is there a discussion?
[2:25:31] Yes I do.
[2:25:32] Council member mia.
[2:25:34] Yeah this is a no brainer.
[2:25:36] Uh, the youth diversion program
[2:25:38] I mean we talked about the
[2:25:39] opportunities for our youth.
[2:25:42] Uh, what I wanted to highlight
[2:25:43] with the youth diversion
[2:25:45] program that this program has
[2:25:47] served more than 5000 young
[2:25:50] people and more than 90% have
[2:25:52] stayed out of trouble in the
[2:25:52] following year.
[2:25:54] And this is great.
[2:25:55] Uh.
[2:25:57] >> and this tells me that
[2:25:59] prevention can work.
[2:26:01] So I will be supporting this
[2:26:02] and I appreciate the work
[2:26:03] that's gone into this.
[2:26:05] Is there.
[2:26:07] >> any other discussion thank
[2:26:07] you council member.
[2:26:10] Hachimura all right we have a
[2:26:11] motion and a second we have
[2:26:12] discussion all in favor of the
[2:26:13] item the motion please raise.
[2:26:14] >> your.
[2:26:16] Hand any opposed.
[2:26:19] Alrighty councilmember johnson
[2:26:19] .
[2:26:20] >> did uh.
[2:26:20] I'm in favor in favor.
[2:26:22] Okay great.
[2:26:23] That takes us through our
[2:26:24] business agenda.
[2:26:26] Our um next item is.
[2:26:28] Appointments and tonight city
[2:26:29] council will make an
[2:26:31] appointment to the make
[2:26:32] appointments to the community
[2:26:33] relations committee.
[2:26:35] Council members voted by ballot
[2:26:36] and have submitted their
[2:26:37] ballots to the clerk.
[2:26:39] Any nominee receiving six or
[2:26:40] more votes is automatically
[2:26:42] appointed if no nominee
[2:26:44] received at least six votes, a
[2:26:45] runoff will be necessary and
[2:26:47] council will be asked to vote
[2:26:48] tonight to determine who will
[2:26:50] be appointed to the board.
[2:26:51] All appointments.
[2:26:51] Will be.
[2:26:52] Recorded in the official
[2:26:53] minutes of this meeting.
[2:26:55] MADAM Clerk, could you please
[2:26:56] announce the results of the
[2:26:56] ballot?
[2:26:57] Yes.
[2:26:58] >> so the appointments for.
[2:27:00] >> the community relations
[2:27:03] committee, um zachary clay well
[2:27:03] received uh.
[2:27:06] Six votes and alexis healing.
[2:27:08] Received eight votes.
[2:27:08] Alexis.
[2:27:09] >> good.
[2:27:10] So is there.
[2:27:13] Any further.
[2:27:14] Um.
[2:27:16] >> action required by this?
[2:27:17] >> you know.
[2:27:17] Just that.
[2:27:17] Okay.
[2:27:18] Alexis.
[2:27:20] We're all right.
[2:27:21] We had the board.
[2:27:22] Happy to.
[2:27:22] >> have us vote.
[2:27:23] Is there a motion by
[2:27:25] acclamation or otherwise?
[2:27:26] >> she made a motion.
[2:27:28] And jenny made the second.
[2:27:28] Okay.
[2:27:30] >> any further discussion?
[2:27:30] All in favor.
[2:27:31] Raise your hand.
[2:27:31] >> excuse me.
[2:27:32] I have something.
[2:27:33] Oh, yeah?
[2:27:34] Yep.
[2:27:35] >> I just wanted to bring up,
[2:27:36] um, congratulations to, uh,
[2:27:37] doctor healing.
[2:27:38] >> for her.
[2:27:39] Pending appointment.
[2:27:40] I do want.
[2:27:42] >> us to look at what it takes
[2:27:44] for city staff to be on board
[2:27:45] and commission.
[2:27:46] Certainly their residents.
[2:27:47] We want them to participate.
[2:27:48] I would not.
[2:27:49] >> want to discourage any staff
[2:27:51] member from simply.
[2:27:52] Attending these.
[2:27:53] Meetings at any time.
[2:27:55] So MR. Manager, I would love to
[2:27:56] kind of just talk about what we
[2:27:57] can do to.
[2:27:59] um to make sure that we're
[2:28:00] encouraging and enabling.
[2:28:01] That uh, certainly.
[2:28:03] Understanding that we want to
[2:28:04] create equal access with
[2:28:05] everyone.
[2:28:06] In the community.
[2:28:08] But I love.
[2:28:08] >> to see.
[2:28:09] Staff wanting.
[2:28:09] >> to.
[2:28:10] Be um.
[2:28:10] >> a part of.
[2:28:11] >> these boards, but I think
[2:28:12] there's a way that we MAY be
[2:28:12] able.
[2:28:13] >> can beef it.
[2:28:14] Up and enhance how that works.
[2:28:15] So thank you.
[2:28:16] >> sorry for inadvertently
[2:28:16] putting you on.
[2:28:17] .
[2:28:17] Any other.
[2:28:19] >> council member johnson.
[2:28:20] I agree and I sent an.
[2:28:22] Email in writing is that.
[2:28:25] Appropriate or.
[2:28:27] I think we should have a.
[2:28:29] Policy on city staff on.
[2:28:30] Uh boards.
[2:28:31] >> and commissions.
[2:28:34] Also I think that there's um
[2:28:35] opportunity for influence.
[2:28:37] And impact.
[2:28:39] So I that's just my uh and it's
[2:28:41] nothing against alexis I think
[2:28:42] she does a phenomenal job.
[2:28:43] .
[2:28:44] But the fact that she is an
[2:28:46] executive level employee I
[2:28:47] think there could be some
[2:28:49] concern from the public.
[2:28:50] So I'd like to see a policy on
[2:28:51] that as well.
[2:28:51] Thank you.
[2:28:53] Any further comments?
[2:28:54] All right.
[2:28:54] All in.
[2:28:56] >> favor of the motion.
[2:28:57] Please raise.
[2:28:57] >> your hand.
[2:28:59] Any opposed?
[2:29:00] Yeah.
[2:29:01] >> opposed or.
[2:29:02] Councilmember johnson opposed.
[2:29:05] Are you oppose opposed okay.
[2:29:07] All right that takes us.
[2:29:09] Through the appointments and
[2:29:11] that takes us to mayor and
[2:29:13] council topics um, in order to
[2:29:15] ensure that all council.
[2:29:16] Has the opportunity to speak,
[2:29:18] we will go around the dais
[2:29:18] once.
[2:29:23] We'll go around the dias once
[2:29:25] uh, one by one I ask that each
[2:29:26] council member try to keep
[2:29:28] their comments to our end for
[2:29:29] questions to three.
[2:29:30] >> minutes.
[2:29:31] But also note that we have a
[2:29:31] closed session.
[2:29:33] Scheduled for tonight so it MAY
[2:29:34] be all the more important that.
[2:29:36] We try to keep our comments to
[2:29:37] three minutes.
[2:29:39] Staff will respond to questions
[2:29:41] or topics with a written report
[2:29:43] to council prior to the next
[2:29:44] business meeting.
[2:29:46] If that report is sufficient to
[2:29:47] address the question or issue.
[2:29:48] That would ensure that our
[2:29:50] meeting time and agenda items
[2:29:52] are focused on upcoming
[2:29:53] decisions rather than just
[2:29:54] report outs.
[2:29:55] This will help ensure effective
[2:29:57] meetings and discussions should
[2:29:58] a council member feel that an
[2:30:00] action is needed or further
[2:30:01] discussion is required with the
[2:30:03] entire council, the council
[2:30:04] member would then make a
[2:30:04] request.
[2:30:05] >> to.
[2:30:05] Add the item.
[2:30:06] To a.
[2:30:07] Future strategy.
[2:30:09] Session agenda I will ask if
[2:30:10] there is any objection.
[2:30:10] >> if there are no.
[2:30:12] Objections staff.
[2:30:14] Would schedule the item for the
[2:30:15] future meeting.
[2:30:16] This approach will create a.
[2:30:17] Framework to.
[2:30:18] >> help keep meetings running
[2:30:19] smoothly.
[2:30:23] As a reminder um rule four d of
[2:30:25] the mayor and council rules and
[2:30:26] procedures provides for adding
[2:30:28] items to council meetings and
[2:30:30] not council and not committee
[2:30:31] meetings unless there are other
[2:30:32] questions.
[2:30:34] Please let's uh, get started
[2:30:35] and I'm going to go in some
[2:30:36] order and I think I'm going to
[2:30:38] go from the inside out uh, this
[2:30:40] time I'll start on this side
[2:30:42] and come to uh, mayor pro tem.
[2:30:42] Okay.
[2:30:43] Uh thank.
[2:30:44] >> you mayor and council I just
[2:30:46] have two quick and one is a
[2:30:47] thank you to.
[2:30:49] Cdot and to the city manager.
[2:30:50] We just had a very successful
[2:30:52] ribbon cutting with uh, kiosks
[2:30:54] ,digital kiosk, pilot program
[2:30:54] .
[2:30:55] We start off in district two
[2:30:58] with COUNCILMAN Graham and I
[2:30:59] would like to thank, uh, staff
[2:31:01] for working so hard.
[2:31:02] Make sure we put them in the
[2:31:02] right away.
[2:31:03] We're going to roll out a total
[2:31:06] 30 and they've been a six
[2:31:06] doors.
[2:31:08] Six corridors opportunity as
[2:31:09] well as a msd.
[2:31:12] So kudos to to you city manager
[2:31:14] and to see that secondly uh my
[2:31:16] next town hall meeting will be
[2:31:18] saturday SEPTEMBER 26th.
[2:31:20] The title of it will be forward
[2:31:22] together as we talking about
[2:31:24] how we going to empower uh sb
[2:31:26] uh businesses and city
[2:31:27] charlotte let them know we
[2:31:28] still behind them and we're
[2:31:29] going to make sure they can
[2:31:32] still be successful uh in our
[2:31:34] community starts at 11 uh 11
[2:31:36] and 12 of course is my favorite
[2:31:37] luncheon networking and we
[2:31:38] should wrap up around.
[2:31:40] 230 here at the government.
[2:31:43] Center on saturday, SEPTEMBER
[2:31:43] 26th.
[2:31:44] Thank you mayor.
[2:31:46] Thank you mayor pro tem council
[2:31:46] member owens.
[2:31:47] Thank you.
[2:31:48] >> mayor appreciate the
[2:31:49] opportunity.
[2:31:51] I have two comments one a
[2:31:52] comment of.
[2:31:52] Gratitude and.
[2:31:54] >> second of somber recognition
[2:31:54] .
[2:31:56] First the gratitude I.
[2:31:57] Want to.
[2:31:57] Um.
[2:31:59] >> lift up the city staff and
[2:31:59] community.
[2:32:00] >> partners.
[2:32:01] Um and.
[2:32:02] First responders all of.
[2:32:03] Whom have.
[2:32:05] Worked tirelessly and quickly
[2:32:06] to support cleanup efforts
[2:32:07] after the.
[2:32:08] Storms from.
[2:32:08] >> this.
[2:32:09] Past weekend.
[2:32:09] Oh.
[2:32:11] >> we had multiple trees down.
[2:32:11] >> in district six and.
[2:32:12] I'm sure that was.
[2:32:12] >> the.
[2:32:14] Story across our districts.
[2:32:16] We had uh, no fewer than 23,000
[2:32:17] outages of.
[2:32:18] Power recorded in.
[2:32:19] Mecklenburg county.
[2:32:19] We had.
[2:32:22] 88 requests for trees impacting
[2:32:22] roads.
[2:32:22] Uh.
[2:32:23] >> over the weekend.
[2:32:24] .
[2:32:25] >> uh, james burr.
[2:32:25] >> ricky.
[2:32:27] Gaither, uh michael.
[2:32:28] Cruz and director rodney
[2:32:29] jamison are all.
[2:32:30] To be commended.
[2:32:32] Uh, this is work that will be
[2:32:33] ongoing over the next several
[2:32:34] weeks to clean up the trees.
[2:32:36] I'm particularly, uh,
[2:32:37] appreciative.
[2:32:37] Uh, there.
[2:32:40] >> were many, many diversions
[2:32:42] of routes coming from uptown
[2:32:43] and I heard from a.
[2:32:44] Lot of my constituents who
[2:32:45] were.
[2:32:45] Concerned but very.
[2:32:46] Grateful to.
[2:32:48] Have immediate um, storm
[2:32:49] cleanup efforts.
[2:32:50] I'll pivot then to.
[2:32:52] A somber recognition.
[2:32:52] >> I'd like.
[2:32:53] >> to lift.
[2:32:56] Up the fact that doctor gina
[2:32:56] navarette was.
[2:32:57] Um.
[2:32:59] >> was unfortunately a victim
[2:33:01] of a fall in chile uh, last
[2:33:03] week and, uh, lost her life.
[2:33:06] Um, gina navarette ran for.
[2:33:07] District six.
[2:33:09] Back in 2019 and I lift her up
[2:33:11] in large part because I think
[2:33:12] any of us who serve the.
[2:33:13] Community deserve.
[2:33:15] Recognition but particularly
[2:33:18] folks who serve so tirelessly.
[2:33:19] Um.
[2:33:21] >> and really advocate for so
[2:33:22] much.
[2:33:23] >> of what makes charlotte.
[2:33:26] Charlotte um doctor navarette
[2:33:28] was an advocate for racial
[2:33:28] justice for.
[2:33:30] women's rights, advocated.
[2:33:32] Consistently for the underdog
[2:33:33] during covid.
[2:33:35] Was a real force of nature.
[2:33:37] And a presence out in the
[2:33:38] community letting people.
[2:33:40] Understand our mask mandate and
[2:33:41] helping hand out masks.
[2:33:44] Um, she more than just.
[2:33:45] >> running for the city.
[2:33:48] She she showed up for people
[2:33:49] um, and.
[2:33:50] Uh, was part.
[2:33:51] >> of.
[2:33:52] A small group of folks who did
[2:33:54] the first women's MARCH here.
[2:33:54] >> in charlotte.
[2:33:56] I reached out to several of her
[2:33:57] friends.
[2:33:58] I had the opportunity to see
[2:34:00] her speak on occasions.
[2:34:00] >> and then also.
[2:34:03] I had the great, um, foresight
[2:34:04] to have voted for her myself.
[2:34:05] But I.
[2:34:07] Mentioned her because I think
[2:34:07] that.
[2:34:08] Those of us.
[2:34:08] Who do.
[2:34:10] >> serve in these capacities we
[2:34:10] stand.
[2:34:11] >> on the shoulders of those
[2:34:12] who came before.
[2:34:14] Us and um, particularly in my.
[2:34:15] District where.
[2:34:17] There was a change of.
[2:34:19] Leadership um, she was one of
[2:34:19] those first.
[2:34:20] People who.
[2:34:21] >> made it feel.
[2:34:22] Possible that uh.
[2:34:23] Particularly a latina.
[2:34:25] Could could run in charlotte
[2:34:26] and I believe she MAY have.
[2:34:28] Made a path for councilmember
[2:34:28] moss.
[2:34:30] Where arias who we enjoy so
[2:34:30] much up.
[2:34:33] Here um, her friend wrote to me
[2:34:35] that, uh, gina was an
[2:34:36] inspiration and an activist
[2:34:36] community.
[2:34:38] She loved and cared for her
[2:34:40] friends and pushed for a better
[2:34:40] world.
[2:34:42] All are struggling to process.
[2:34:43] >> the sudden and
[2:34:43] heartbreaking.
[2:34:45] Loss and to accept a world
[2:34:46] without her in it.
[2:34:47] Um we.
[2:34:49] Hold her son alex.
[2:34:50] Especially close in our hearts
[2:34:50] .
[2:34:53] Uh, gina's husband died a year
[2:34:54] ago and now with gina's passing
[2:34:55] ,alex is.
[2:34:55] >> is alone.
[2:34:57] And I just would suggest that
[2:34:57] this.
[2:34:59] Community continue to love and
[2:34:59] support him.
[2:35:02] And I do, uh, I just wish.
[2:35:03] To just have a quick moment of
[2:35:03] silence.
[2:35:05] In recognition of the
[2:35:05] contributions.
[2:35:06] >> of.
[2:35:07] Doctor gina navarette.
[2:35:16] Thank you, councilmember.
[2:35:16] Owens.
[2:35:18] >> councilmember graham.
[2:35:19] >> thank you, MR. Mayor.
[2:35:21] I'd like to take this
[2:35:22] opportunity to give a shout out
[2:35:23] and and make an announcement.
[2:35:25] Uh, the shout out to steve
[2:35:27] bagwell and the men and women
[2:35:29] of the charlotte regional
[2:35:31] visitors authority for doing an
[2:35:33] outstanding job last week in
[2:35:35] hosting the um 41st annual
[2:35:35] stellar award.
[2:35:36] Um.
[2:35:42] >> the community really came
[2:35:45] out and show that out of over
[2:35:47] 14,000 tickets were sold, uh
[2:35:49] was a sellout for the event.
[2:35:52] Um, I want to thank the host
[2:35:53] committee who did a tremendous
[2:35:53] job.
[2:35:56] Each had very, uh, difficult
[2:35:59] task to do as relates to
[2:36:01] performance and talent and
[2:36:02] working with churches are
[2:36:04] getting folks there certainly
[2:36:06] want to thank all the local
[2:36:07] sponsors, mecklenburg county
[2:36:09] and others who kind of invested
[2:36:10] in the show.
[2:36:12] Um, a lot of people are asking
[2:36:13] how can I see it?
[2:36:16] Well uh it will air um AUGUST
[2:36:19] 30th at 8 P.M. On wbz-tv.
[2:36:21] They'll be doing a one hour
[2:36:23] preview show uh, of the red
[2:36:23] carpet.
[2:36:25] I think MR. Mayor, you MAY have
[2:36:26] walked that carpet.
[2:36:27] Pretty quick.
[2:36:28] Pretty quick?
[2:36:28] Yeah.
[2:36:29] Uh.
[2:36:29] >> yeah.
[2:36:31] >> I'm was quick to uh so so
[2:36:33] they'll do a pre-show at 8:00.
[2:36:35] Uh, and then the 9:00 will be
[2:36:38] the performance as well as this
[2:36:40] airing nationally on bet the
[2:36:43] same night sunday um uh the
[2:36:44] 30th at 10 P.M..
[2:36:46] So if you didn't get a chance
[2:36:48] to go to it, uh, you can watch
[2:36:49] it, um, from the comfort of
[2:36:51] your living room on AUGUST
[2:36:53] 30th, uh, on wb tv as well as
[2:36:55] bet networks.
[2:36:56] Uh, and pivoting to that uh
[2:36:58] also will be hosting a town
[2:37:00] hall meeting um, to kind of
[2:37:02] talk about the um the economic
[2:37:03] impact of travel tourism.
[2:37:05] Sports and entertainment.
[2:37:08] Uh, tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd uh,
[2:37:10] is called destination charlotte
[2:37:12] and we'll talk all things like
[2:37:14] I said earlier travel tourism,
[2:37:16] sports and entertainment a lot
[2:37:16] of great.
[2:37:18] Interest from our partners in
[2:37:19] the community.
[2:37:22] Uh crb yeah for sure.
[2:37:26] Panthers hornets um the uh
[2:37:28] atrium the politics of um uh
[2:37:31] medical tourism right with the
[2:37:32] pearl all these doctors coming
[2:37:35] for visits and uh and training
[2:37:37] all uh to charlotte's economy
[2:37:38] as it relates to travel and
[2:37:39] tourism.
[2:37:41] So if you're available uh,
[2:37:44] tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd, 6 to 8
[2:37:45] P.M. At bojangles complex.
[2:37:45] Thank you.
[2:37:46] >> thank you.
[2:37:47] Council member graham council
[2:37:48] member driggs.
[2:37:50] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[2:37:51] I just want to point out that,
[2:37:53] uh, south charlotte partners
[2:37:55] will be hosting the south
[2:37:57] charlotte transportation summit
[2:37:59] again this year and this is
[2:38:00] quite a significant event.
[2:38:04] It's attended by 150 to 200 uh
[2:38:06] elected officials, government
[2:38:08] and business leaders and
[2:38:09] members of the public.
[2:38:11] It goes far beyond just south
[2:38:11] charlotte.
[2:38:12] It's an interesting event to
[2:38:14] take stock of what's going on
[2:38:15] and what the views are of the
[2:38:17] business community on
[2:38:19] transportation that will take
[2:38:22] place uh starting at 730 on the
[2:38:23] 29th of SEPTEMBER at the piper
[2:38:25] glen country club in my
[2:38:25] district.
[2:38:25] Thank you.
[2:38:26] And thank you.
[2:38:27] >> I am.
[2:38:29] Thank you.
[2:38:30] >> council drakes.
[2:38:31] In the.
[2:38:32] >> morning council member
[2:38:32] mayfield.
[2:38:36] Yeah thank you mayor thank you.
[2:38:38] Manager I have.
[2:38:40] A question I believe a number
[2:38:43] of us have received emails
[2:38:46] regarding center city partners
[2:38:51] new food vendor, street vendor
[2:38:51] language.
[2:38:54] What I want to know is
[2:38:56] basically who gave them that
[2:38:58] authority without conversation
[2:38:59] comment though council I want
[2:39:01] to understand if that was part
[2:39:01] of.
[2:39:04] The msd and if so.
[2:39:07] Does that mean that all of.
[2:39:09] Our communities.
[2:39:10] That have.
[2:39:10] >> a msd.
[2:39:12] Whether that's university.
[2:39:13] >> or south park have they
[2:39:13] also.
[2:39:17] Have the same authority to
[2:39:21] identify cut off time because
[2:39:22] community members are reaching
[2:39:23] out to us?
[2:39:24] Um.
[2:39:26] >> I didn't necessarily have a
[2:39:27] response to it because I read
[2:39:28] about it in the news as well.
[2:39:31] So I would like to know whether
[2:39:33] any language we have signed off
[2:39:35] on that gives that authority
[2:39:35] and.
[2:39:36] If not, what.
[2:39:37] >> does that what should that
[2:39:38] process.
[2:39:39] Help look like?
[2:39:42] I also want to just check.
[2:39:43] In on.
[2:39:44] Referrals.
[2:39:44] >> I had.
[2:39:45] Asked for a referral.
[2:39:46] To uh.
[2:39:47] Housing and neighborhood
[2:39:47] services.
[2:39:49] Committee to.
[2:39:50] Add in.
[2:39:53] The conversation around
[2:39:55] co-living spaces based on a
[2:39:56] number of emails we've received
[2:39:56] from.
[2:39:57] Residents that's not.
[2:39:58] Something new in the.
[2:40:00] community is actually been.
[2:40:03] Happening for 20 plus years but
[2:40:03] it is.
[2:40:05] Starting to have.
[2:40:06] A different.
[2:40:08] Challenge as more corporate.
[2:40:11] Spaces are corporate entities
[2:40:11] are moving into.
[2:40:12] That space.
[2:40:15] As well as I think it will be
[2:40:18] helpful to in housing and
[2:40:19] neighborhood services along
[2:40:21] with transportation to
[2:40:21] continue.
[2:40:22] The sidewalk.
[2:40:26] Discussion meaning if we're
[2:40:29] shortening the driveways and we
[2:40:31] know that we have co-living
[2:40:33] spaces where we can have
[2:40:35] multiple vehicles at this one
[2:40:38] property, what is our policy
[2:40:42] language in our studio say to
[2:40:43] keep up with the growth that
[2:40:45] we're supporting and we're
[2:40:47] encouraging and how that growth
[2:40:48] is impacting new neighborhoods
[2:40:49] as well as current.
[2:40:50] Neighborhoods.
[2:40:52] >> and last.
[2:40:55] This is for all of our solid
[2:40:55] ground.
[2:40:58] So congratulations.
[2:40:59] >> to our upshot.
[2:40:59] League as.
[2:41:00] Barry on.
[2:41:02] >> solid ground one.
[2:41:02] >> out.
[2:41:03] Of the.
[2:41:03] >> league of.
[2:41:04] >> four teams.
[2:41:05] .
[2:41:06] >> it was your solid.
[2:41:07] Ground that had.
[2:41:09] Its first member to.
[2:41:09] Actually be.
[2:41:12] Tapped for the wnba going to
[2:41:13] indiana for indiana.
[2:41:14] Michelle but.
[2:41:16] Your charlotte crown will.
[2:41:17] >> be playing in.
[2:41:18] >> the championship.
[2:41:20] On saturday in jacksonville.
[2:41:21] So what does that mean for
[2:41:22] those of us at home?
[2:41:24] Bojangles thank you.
[2:41:25] Steve thank you sean.
[2:41:26] They are going.
[2:41:26] To be.
[2:41:28] >> hosting a watch.
[2:41:31] Night party here at the
[2:41:31] connector.
[2:41:31] So we.
[2:41:32] Want they're going to be
[2:41:33] sending out.
[2:41:34] Promotions starting tomorrow.
[2:41:36] But want to make sure.
[2:41:36] >> that.
[2:41:37] Everyone knows come.
[2:41:38] Out support.
[2:41:40] Your women's basketball team.
[2:41:42] They have a wonderful record.
[2:41:43] Already again.
[2:41:45] We made it to the championship.
[2:41:45] The game.
[2:41:46] Is saturday.
[2:41:47] Night at.
[2:41:49] Seven and there will be a watch
[2:41:49] night.
[2:41:50] Party that.
[2:41:51] Will be.
[2:41:52] Open to the.
[2:41:52] Community for.
[2:41:53] >> you.
[2:41:53] To come.
[2:41:54] >> out and.
[2:41:55] >> support your.
[2:41:55] Hometown team.
[2:41:57] Thank you mayor we'll crown.
[2:41:58] And glad you were.
[2:41:59] Able to get that.
[2:42:00] We were able to.
[2:42:00] >> get that.
[2:42:02] Connection worked with uh with
[2:42:02] bojangles.
[2:42:03] Thank you.
[2:42:03] Council member.
[2:42:06] Uh mayfield council member MR.
[2:42:06] Areas.
[2:42:06] Thank you.
[2:42:07] >> mayor.
[2:42:08] uh, I just want to.
[2:42:08] Take uh.
[2:42:09] 2 or.
[2:42:10] >> 3 minutes for quick.
[2:42:11] District five updates.
[2:42:13] Uh, and a broader thought.
[2:42:14] So we.
[2:42:16] Recently celebrated five
[2:42:18] completed and soon to be
[2:42:18] completed.
[2:42:18] Fully funded.
[2:42:20] >> strategic investment area
[2:42:22] projects in the far east uh.
[2:42:23] Delivering long.
[2:42:24] Overdue infrastructure,
[2:42:25] pedestrian connectivity and
[2:42:25] safety improvements.
[2:42:28] So thanks to this council and
[2:42:29] the previous council and my
[2:42:32] predecessor for really funding
[2:42:33] these needed investments in the
[2:42:35] far east of charlotte, we also
[2:42:37] celebrated project 65 h new
[2:42:38] community dental.
[2:42:39] Clinic in charlotte.
[2:42:41] Expanding access to care.
[2:42:41] For immigrant.
[2:42:42] Refugee.
[2:42:44] >> uninsured and underserved
[2:42:45] families.
[2:42:46] And I'm incredibly proud that
[2:42:48] district five went the entire
[2:42:50] month of JULY without a single
[2:42:51] traffic fatality.
[2:42:53] Um, which I think that's huge
[2:42:54] progress and we're going to
[2:42:56] keep working towards safer
[2:42:57] streets, uh, with the
[2:42:58] collaboration of my colleagues
[2:43:00] here and there's plenty more
[2:43:01] coming starting SEPTEMBER.
[2:43:03] Uh, thanks to some inspiration
[2:43:04] from my colleague in district
[2:43:07] six and in district seven, uh,
[2:43:09] I will be launching cafecito
[2:43:11] with jade every friday so
[2:43:13] informal opportunities to grab
[2:43:15] some coffee, sit down with
[2:43:16] myself and talk about what's
[2:43:17] happening in your neighborhood
[2:43:19] some more to come on that and
[2:43:20] uh to my constituents.
[2:43:24] For thursday, SEPTEMBER 24th at
[2:43:26] 6 P.M. I'll be hosting a joint
[2:43:27] town hall with state
[2:43:29] representative jordan lopez at
[2:43:31] the grove presbyterian church
[2:43:32] on W.T. Harris boulevard.
[2:43:34] Uh, we'll talk about what's
[2:43:35] happening at both the city and
[2:43:36] state level.
[2:43:39] Um, how we both interact when
[2:43:41] it comes to zoning, housing,
[2:43:41] public safety.
[2:43:43] And I also.
[2:43:44] Want to leave us with one
[2:43:45] thought.
[2:43:46] As we continue conversations
[2:43:48] around youth curfews,
[2:43:49] restrictions on street vendors
[2:43:51] and now restrictions on fruit
[2:43:52] trucks.
[2:43:54] Um, I think we need to tread
[2:43:57] lightly whenever we expand
[2:43:58] government control into our
[2:44:00] communities uh, food trucks,
[2:44:01] street vendors, young people
[2:44:02] gathering and the lively
[2:44:04] nightlife are not inherently
[2:44:05] problems to solve.
[2:44:06] I think they're a part of the
[2:44:08] culture and energy that make a
[2:44:10] big city feel alive, especially
[2:44:11] as we continue to grow as a
[2:44:12] city.
[2:44:13] And of course we have a
[2:44:14] responsibility to keep people
[2:44:14] safe.
[2:44:17] But we can make charlotte safer
[2:44:18] without shutting charlotte
[2:44:18] down.
[2:44:20] So I don't believe more
[2:44:21] restrictions should always be
[2:44:22] our first answer.
[2:44:23] And finally.
[2:44:27] Um, to to uh complement with my
[2:44:28] colleague and district six
[2:44:30] council member owens mentioned
[2:44:32] I do want to recognize the
[2:44:33] passing of doctor gina
[2:44:35] navarette, a latina leader who
[2:44:37] ran for city council in
[2:44:38] district six and was among
[2:44:40] those who helped pave the way
[2:44:41] for latino representation in
[2:44:42] the city.
[2:44:44] I MAY have had the privilege of
[2:44:46] ultimately making history as
[2:44:47] charlotte's first latino.
[2:44:49] Council member, but history is
[2:44:50] never made by one person.
[2:44:53] There are people like doctor
[2:44:54] navarette who open doors before
[2:44:56] we ever get the opportunity to
[2:44:56] walk through them.
[2:45:00] So tonight I honor her and her
[2:45:02] um, her son for being one.
[2:45:04] Of those people in the family.
[2:45:05] Uh, get this cancer passed.
[2:45:06] MAY she rest in peace.
[2:45:07] Thank you.
[2:45:07] Council.
[2:45:09] >> um thank you, councilmember
[2:45:10] arias.
[2:45:12] And also just thank you both
[2:45:13] for the recognition and
[2:45:14] remembrance of doctor navarette
[2:45:16] ,council member johnson.
[2:45:18] Thank you, MR. Mayor.
[2:45:20] I want to thank council member
[2:45:22] graham for your leadership with
[2:45:23] this stellar award and you're
[2:45:24] being modest but I know there
[2:45:25] was a heavy lift in the city,
[2:45:26] so thank you.
[2:45:28] It was a fabulous event so
[2:45:28] thank you.
[2:45:28] Thank you.
[2:45:32] Um, I'd like to know MISTER
[2:45:32] Manager.
[2:45:33] Or mayor.
[2:45:36] With the market changes and the
[2:45:37] interest rates going up and
[2:45:39] development slowing down, does
[2:45:41] the city have a plan for
[2:45:42] projects that are halfway
[2:45:42] completed?
[2:45:45] There or there are some in my
[2:45:47] area that are blighted
[2:45:48] properties code enforcement.
[2:45:50] there's uh there's safety
[2:45:51] hazards where um where people
[2:45:52] can gather.
[2:45:52] There's some.
[2:45:54] >> pools that are half filled
[2:45:56] and you know, we're getting
[2:45:56] some.
[2:45:59] Complaints so there's several
[2:45:59] half finished.
[2:46:00] Developments.
[2:46:03] >> so I'd like to know if
[2:46:04] there's a plan or if there.
[2:46:06] Is a minimum time.
[2:46:08] Where before the city gets
[2:46:09] engaged or what is that plan if
[2:46:10] we if.
[2:46:11] >> we start.
[2:46:11] >> to see.
[2:46:12] More of.
[2:46:14] >> of this um.
[2:46:17] Because we.
[2:46:19] >> want to avoid blighted
[2:46:22] buildings and our um also
[2:46:23] referral tracker we talked.
[2:46:24] Before about a.
[2:46:26] Referral tracker I think I.
[2:46:26] Received the link.
[2:46:28] >> but is that open to the
[2:46:31] public and if not can it be
[2:46:32] open to the public and I'd like
[2:46:35] to see dates add it to that
[2:46:35] referral tracker.
[2:46:37] There is a referral.
[2:46:38] That I.
[2:46:40] Think that was sent regarding
[2:46:41] infill development that we
[2:46:44] talked about in 2023 and it's a
[2:46:45] gray area if that was actually
[2:46:47] addressed I think planning
[2:46:48] staff would say it was not.
[2:46:49] So I'd like to.
[2:46:51] See um that on.
[2:46:52] >> the tracker.
[2:46:53] Along with the date that it was
[2:46:55] referred and.
[2:46:57] Um, I will be.
[2:46:58] Holding a meeting.
[2:46:59] With in.
[2:47:00] >> the university city area.
[2:47:01] I want to thank the city
[2:47:02] attorney's office, uh.
[2:47:05] For that for being willing to
[2:47:08] come to talk about university
[2:47:10] city data centers specifically.
[2:47:12] I know they're they're, uh,
[2:47:13] outside of the moratorium,
[2:47:14] especially the large one.
[2:47:16] But I invited, uh, the.
[2:47:18] Current and future state
[2:47:20] representatives because we know
[2:47:21] that there are there are some
[2:47:22] things our state partners can
[2:47:23] do.
[2:47:25] So I want to recognize that,
[2:47:27] um, state representative elect
[2:47:29] valeria lavie was here today
[2:47:30] and jordan lopez.
[2:47:31] Was and.
[2:47:32] Was here also.
[2:47:34] So thank you.
[2:47:35] That's all I have.
[2:47:35] Thank you.
[2:47:36] >> council member johnson
[2:47:38] council member mayo.
[2:47:42] No.
[2:47:43] >> we are going.
[2:47:44] >> that way.
[2:47:44] Okay.
[2:47:44] Back to you.
[2:47:45] >> if you want me to.
[2:47:46] Know I'll just go.
[2:47:46] Yeah.
[2:47:47] >> um thank.
[2:47:48] You for the opportunity.
[2:47:49] >> to chat.
[2:47:51] Uh, I just want to invite
[2:47:53] everyone to attend my town hall
[2:47:53] on.
[2:47:54] SEPTEMBER 17th.
[2:47:55] >> uh, the ripple.
[2:47:58] Effect light rail housing and
[2:47:58] investment.
[2:47:59] Um, as.
[2:47:59] We've seen.
[2:48:00] With the blue line.
[2:48:02] It has had a tremendous.
[2:48:03] Positive and.
[2:48:03] Negative impact.
[2:48:06] On legacy residents.
[2:48:06] Um.
[2:48:08] >> you you know, been there
[2:48:09] five, ten years.
[2:48:10] You can see the change that
[2:48:12] south in um has had and how
[2:48:15] that continues to impact going
[2:48:16] further down with the blue line
[2:48:17] .
[2:48:17] Um so we'll be.
[2:48:19] Hearing from.
[2:48:20] Different community groups
[2:48:22] talking about um how are they
[2:48:23] working with.
[2:48:25] Development even along the blue
[2:48:25] line.
[2:48:28] >> we know uh right by yancey
[2:48:29] avenue or.
[2:48:30] Yancey road.
[2:48:31] There is a rezoning.
[2:48:34] For 15 acres that uh will be
[2:48:34] happening soon.
[2:48:35] This is part.
[2:48:36] Of a.
[2:48:36] >> larger issue.
[2:48:39] About continued investment.
[2:48:39] As a.
[2:48:41] Result of.
[2:48:43] Light rail expansion.
[2:48:44] Uh, we'll also be talking about
[2:48:45] the silver.
[2:48:45] Line, uh.
[2:48:45] Which is.
[2:48:47] >> another part.
[2:48:48] >> of my district.
[2:48:49] >> so there there are a lot of
[2:48:51] pros and cons and really just
[2:48:52] trying to help empower the
[2:48:53] community to get ahead.
[2:48:54] So how.
[2:48:55] >> do they have a seat at the
[2:48:56] table?
[2:48:56] We'll be.
[2:48:59] Hearing a case study um from.
[2:49:00] A project that.
[2:49:01] Transforming nations forward is
[2:49:02] doing.
[2:49:02] >> where.
[2:49:03] They are.
[2:49:06] Hoping fingers crossed to have
[2:49:07] an impact on the request.
[2:49:08] >> for proposal.
[2:49:09] um.
[2:49:09] .
[2:49:10] Regarding the project.
[2:49:11] So that's a five.
[2:49:11] Year in.
[2:49:12] >> the making.
[2:49:14] Um strategy which.
[2:49:15] I think is how.
[2:49:15] >> we're going to have.
[2:49:16] To handle.
[2:49:17] Things as a community if you
[2:49:18] want to sit at the table.
[2:49:19] We always.
[2:49:20] >> talk about build your own
[2:49:20] table.
[2:49:22] And uh be part of that
[2:49:23] conversation and that is
[2:49:24] something that they have.
[2:49:26] Done and excited to share about
[2:49:26] that.
[2:49:27] Uh, so.
[2:49:27] It will.
[2:49:30] >> be uh, SEPTEMBER 17th at cbi
[2:49:31] community.
[2:49:32] >> center.
[2:49:34] Uh, right off old pine viewing
[2:49:34] yancey road.
[2:49:35] Right.
[2:49:35] So right.
[2:49:36] After blue.
[2:49:38] Line people can get off at
[2:49:38] scaly.
[2:49:39] Bark and.
[2:49:40] Walk uh, it's about seven
[2:49:42] minute walk from.
[2:49:43] There but a great opportunity
[2:49:43] to really.
[2:49:45] Start thinking.
[2:49:46] Strategically about.
[2:49:47] >> how do.
[2:49:48] Transportation investments
[2:49:50] impact future.
[2:49:52] Residents and legacy residents
[2:49:53] and how do we work.
[2:49:53] Together.
[2:49:55] >> uh, to make some of these
[2:49:57] pain points not so painful.
[2:49:58] So hopefully uh, people will
[2:49:59] join.
[2:49:59] >> us and.
[2:50:00] >> I'm looking forward to chat
[2:50:01] more about that.
[2:50:01] Thank you.
[2:50:03] Thank you council member mayo
[2:50:03] doctor.
[2:50:04] Whiteland thank.
[2:50:05] You a.
[2:50:06] Couple of things for me.
[2:50:07] So firstly I just want to say
[2:50:10] thank you to staff and to all
[2:50:11] of the ac professionals that
[2:50:13] participated in my town hall a
[2:50:14] couple of weeks ago.
[2:50:16] Um, regarding health care and
[2:50:18] data centers and the impact
[2:50:19] that that infrastructure has on
[2:50:20] our labor.
[2:50:21] Has on.
[2:50:23] Our materials and the broader.
[2:50:24] Community needs.
[2:50:27] So we appreciate you bringing
[2:50:29] your your time your your talent
[2:50:30] to the room because that's what
[2:50:31] it's going to take as we
[2:50:33] deliver these policy solutions.
[2:50:35] Um, these public forums are
[2:50:36] always my favorite meetings
[2:50:38] because I love to hear from the
[2:50:39] residents because I truly.
[2:50:40] Believe that it.
[2:50:41] >> takes all of us.
[2:50:42] And I.
[2:50:44] Believe in personal agency to
[2:50:46] change your environment.
[2:50:47] Uh, one thing that struck me
[2:50:50] today is I think about 77 is
[2:50:52] it's clear that we agree on the
[2:50:53] problem.
[2:50:54] >> where.
[2:50:56] People want congestion relief,
[2:50:56] people.
[2:50:57] Want mobility, people.
[2:50:58] Want their neighborhoods
[2:51:00] preserved and connected to
[2:51:01] amenities.
[2:51:03] Those are things that we can
[2:51:03] agree on.
[2:51:06] I think where I hear.
[2:51:07] >> the voices diverge is on.
[2:51:07] >> what.
[2:51:09] the solution actually is.
[2:51:12] And so I am hopeful that we are
[2:51:12] able.
[2:51:15] To from all sides take a good
[2:51:17] faith effort at trying to back
[2:51:19] up and say who are we trying to
[2:51:19] be?
[2:51:21] We spent a great deal of time
[2:51:23] implementing our 2040 plan
[2:51:25] years ago, and I believe it's
[2:51:27] our northstar whether it's I-77
[2:51:29] or transportation investments,
[2:51:31] whether it's data centers,
[2:51:32] whether it's housing or whether
[2:51:34] it's public safety that.
[2:51:36] Has to be our grounding
[2:51:37] document.
[2:51:38] And we should be producing
[2:51:40] policy and a suite of policy
[2:51:41] that works together that's
[2:51:43] better than the sum of its
[2:51:44] parts to deliver that vision.
[2:51:47] And so I'm hopeful that we'll
[2:51:49] be able to take a step back and
[2:51:50] really understand where we're
[2:51:53] trying to go so that we can
[2:51:54] develop a solution that works
[2:51:55] for everyone.
[2:51:56] Uh.
[2:51:57] >> we've got to lean on our
[2:51:58] partners at the state.
[2:52:00] Uh, we know that to do the work
[2:52:02] correctly and to have the data
[2:52:05] um, and the ability to assess
[2:52:06] alternatives not just design
[2:52:07] alternatives but true
[2:52:09] alternatives to the approach
[2:52:10] that we're going to need more
[2:52:11] time.
[2:52:13] And so I would implore all of
[2:52:15] you who came out tonight to
[2:52:18] reach out to ncdot to reach out
[2:52:20] to governor stein, to reach out
[2:52:21] to your legislative
[2:52:23] representatives because what we
[2:52:24] know that we need is in order
[2:52:27] to make a quality product, we
[2:52:28] need to be able to invest the
[2:52:28] time.
[2:52:29] To do it.
[2:52:31] um, and so I look forward to
[2:52:32] continuing down the path on
[2:52:34] that one to actually deliver
[2:52:36] something that we all want to
[2:52:36] see.
[2:52:36] Um.
[2:52:38] >> and I hope that everyone
[2:52:39] recognizes that this is just
[2:52:42] one example of policy work
[2:52:43] that's going to require a shift
[2:52:43] from.
[2:52:45] Incremental improvements to
[2:52:47] truly revolutionizing how we
[2:52:50] view our community and how we
[2:52:51] view our policy that delivers
[2:52:52] our future.
[2:52:52] Um.
[2:52:54] That's it for me.
[2:52:55] Thank you, doctor watlington
[2:52:55] and.
[2:52:57] Finally, council member ajmera
[2:52:57] .
[2:52:59] Thank you, mayor harrington.
[2:53:00] I have four things.
[2:53:03] First, I also want to honor
[2:53:05] doctor gina and everett.
[2:53:07] Uh thank you councilmember lens
[2:53:10] for, um, honoring her.
[2:53:12] Uh, my heart goes out to alex
[2:53:14] and her extended family and
[2:53:15] friends.
[2:53:19] I've had an opportunity to work
[2:53:22] with her, uh, and I certainly
[2:53:24] appreciated her passion that
[2:53:26] she brought to the table.
[2:53:28] And I loved how she would go
[2:53:30] through trash cans and pick out
[2:53:31] all the cans out.
[2:53:34] Um, at almost every event that
[2:53:37] I and I have been to where she
[2:53:37] was there.
[2:53:41] So, uh, my heart goes out to
[2:53:43] her her friends and family.
[2:53:46] Uh, second, I just want to
[2:53:48] thank staff like councilmember
[2:53:49] watlington said about.
[2:53:50] Uh.
[2:53:51] >> town hall.
[2:53:53] I had my town hall last week.
[2:53:55] Councilmember watlington as
[2:53:57] well as councilmember massara
[2:53:57] arias were there.
[2:53:58] Thank you for coming.
[2:54:01] Uh, we had more than 150
[2:54:03] residents, uh, who joined us
[2:54:04] for my annual state of our
[2:54:06] environment town hall with the
[2:54:09] focus on data centers, water,
[2:54:10] energy and charlotte's future
[2:54:13] and we heard from the industry
[2:54:14] neighborhood advocates from
[2:54:17] city staff, environment
[2:54:18] advocates and I heard five
[2:54:20] things very clear.
[2:54:23] First, uh, protect our water.
[2:54:24] Protect our.
[2:54:26] >> water grid, protect our
[2:54:28] neighborhoods and make sure our
[2:54:32] growth pays its own way and
[2:54:34] give residents a voice before
[2:54:36] decisions are made, not after.
[2:54:39] So as we go through this
[2:54:40] process, I certainly look
[2:54:44] forward to ensuring that now oh
[2:54:48] we turn this feedback into
[2:54:50] action in coming months.
[2:54:55] Uh, next I want to talk about.
[2:54:59] Up down up down street vendors
[2:54:59] .
[2:55:01] I know some of my colleagues
[2:55:03] brought that up.
[2:55:05] >> um I.
[2:55:07] Support what cmpd is trying to
[2:55:09] do which is to keep our uptown
[2:55:09] safe.
[2:55:12] But I'm having a hard time
[2:55:15] understanding how limiting the
[2:55:18] hours of small businesses will
[2:55:20] result in reduction in violent
[2:55:20] crime.
[2:55:23] So, uh, I would like the
[2:55:25] manager and cmpd to come back
[2:55:28] to us with data behind this
[2:55:30] decisions and alternatives that
[2:55:33] allows us to protect public
[2:55:36] safety without unnecessarily
[2:55:37] hurting small businesses.
[2:55:38] Um.
[2:55:40] >> because if the problem is
[2:55:42] crime then let's target crime.
[2:55:45] i'm not convinced that a small
[2:55:46] business or a few small
[2:55:50] businesses should be a
[2:55:51] collateral damage and that's
[2:55:52] what's happening right now.
[2:55:56] Uh, last but not the least, I
[2:55:58] want to raise the issue of
[2:55:59] predatory towing.
[2:56:01] Andrea, thank you so much for
[2:56:02] your memo.
[2:56:04] Uh, I know we have had an
[2:56:04] opportunity.
[2:56:05] >> to chat.
[2:56:05] About this.
[2:56:07] I would like to refer our
[2:56:09] towing ordinance to our safety
[2:56:11] committee and our staff and the
[2:56:13] city attorney to bring this
[2:56:15] option to strengthen protection
[2:56:17] against predatory towing.
[2:56:19] What I have seen from our
[2:56:22] residents and even our
[2:56:22] communications.
[2:56:26] Sent us an email last week
[2:56:28] where residents are being
[2:56:30] charged an inconvenience fee
[2:56:33] for calling 911 and that should
[2:56:34] never be the case.
[2:56:36] People have a right to call 911
[2:56:38] and they should not be charged
[2:56:40] an inconvenience fee for
[2:56:42] calling law enforcement.
[2:56:46] That's unacceptable and I know
[2:56:49] based on andrea's memo there
[2:56:51] are other towns and
[2:56:53] municipalities that have taken
[2:56:55] stronger protections in place
[2:56:57] to protect our residents.
[2:57:01] Currently we have a $400 flat
[2:57:03] penalty that doesn't account
[2:57:04] for repeat offenders.
[2:57:09] So uh, I would like us to look
[2:57:11] into that to increase escalate
[2:57:13] it for repeat offenders,
[2:57:16] especially for bad actors and
[2:57:18] um so the my scope that I would
[2:57:20] like us to examine escalating
[2:57:22] penalties for repeat offenders
[2:57:24] protection for nighttime towing
[2:57:25] because I know we have
[2:57:25] different.
[2:57:26] Protections for.
[2:57:28] Daytime and not protections in
[2:57:29] place for nighttime.
[2:57:30] And that's where a lot of
[2:57:31] predatory towing happens.
[2:57:34] Um, prohibit or.
[2:57:37] Stronger disclosure.
[2:57:39] Requirements and and I know
[2:57:41] there are certain bad actors
[2:57:43] that the attorney's office is
[2:57:45] taking the attorney general's
[2:57:46] office is taking an action
[2:57:47] against them.
[2:57:49] If we can create a pathway for
[2:57:51] us to refer some of these bad
[2:57:52] actors to the attorney
[2:57:53] general's office.
[2:57:54] So that's all I have.
[2:57:54] Thank you.
[2:57:56] >> council member moura.
[2:57:57] And on the referral request
[2:58:00] let's let's um if necessary
[2:58:00] talk a little bit.
[2:58:00] >> more.
[2:58:02] On that just to make sure that
[2:58:03] we know exactly what's being
[2:58:03] requested and.
[2:58:05] I think I'm trying to frame
[2:58:05] something.
[2:58:05] Yeah I.
[2:58:07] >> think the attorney knows uh
[2:58:09] because it was in her memos she
[2:58:10] sent it out last week and then
[2:58:12] she also sent out an updated
[2:58:14] memo to my answers with the
[2:58:16] list of all the cities and
[2:58:17] alternatives and she provided
[2:58:18] to us with an options.
[2:58:20] Let's see if we can we can try
[2:58:21] to frame something.
[2:58:21] For that.
[2:58:21] >> see the.
[2:58:22] Mayor I think.
[2:58:24] That takes us through the.
[2:58:25] Mayor and council's.
[2:58:28] Comments and um I believe we
[2:58:30] have expectation of a closed
[2:58:33] session and I'd ask the city
[2:58:34] attorney if you could read the
[2:58:36] motion to go into closed
[2:58:37] session so someone can follow
[2:58:37] and make it.
[2:58:38] Thank you.
[2:58:40] >> mayor, MAY we have a motion.
[2:58:40] To go into.
[2:58:41] >> closed.
[2:58:41] Session pursuant.
[2:58:46] >> to in cgs 143, 318 2011 a
[2:58:46] three.
[2:58:47] To consult.
[2:58:48] >> with the city attorney in
[2:58:49] order to preserve the.
[2:58:49] Attorney client privilege.
[2:58:51] Between the attorney in the
[2:58:53] matter of melissa boland versus
[2:59:01] city of charlotte claim number
[2:59:01] w004095294.
[2:59:01] >> so my second.
[2:59:04] Is second second.
[2:59:05] Any questions otherwise.
[2:59:06] >> all.
[2:59:07] In favor raise your hand.
[2:59:08] All against.
[2:59:11] All right we will adjourn to
[2:59:11] the.
[2:59:12] Conference room.
[2:59:12] And thank.
[2:59:14] >> you to everyone for being.
[2:59:14] >> here.
[2:59:16] And staying with us throughout
[2:59:16] the evening.
[2:59:17] Appreciate it.
[2:59:19] Okay okay.