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I'm very welcome to the Tribal House of the Council of Meeting, above us the height. Thank you for being here, and I would like to be meeting our meeting and roll call please.

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Mayor Graham, Vice Mayor Bennett, Council Member Kruger, Council Member Norton Perry, President, Council Member Roger.

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Thank you.

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Pleasure to meet you tonight, it is led by a U.S. Marine forefrow, the Emecras,

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who recently discharged, and we are talking about him in a couple minutes.

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Forefrow, if you need some footage.

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First right hand over your heart.

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I pledge allegiance to Black of the United States of America,

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to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, and it is a role with liberty and justice

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All right,

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thank you for all. I got everybody up for a phone. I appreciate that.

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I'm out for a close session in life.

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Yes, Mayor and Council just wanted to briefly announce that there's been no opinion issued yet by the quote of appeal in the to hatch be matter.

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It was anticipated that one would be out, it could be within the next few days, but it could be another month.

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And as soon as it is, the opinions made available by the Court of Appeal, we will post it on the city's website and send out electronic alerts as through the city to so that people will get noticed of it as soon as possible.

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Thank you.

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All right, so I see any questions or more, can I?

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All right.

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All right.

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First up on our agenda this evening.

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Our proclamations and recognitions.

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First, we have recognition of military banner program participant.

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This is Kevin Johnson on behalf of Christian Johnson, who's in the US Navy.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Jonathan.

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Good bye, itself.

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Yes, please.

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We are very, very proud of what she knows her as to run a military government, started

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back in 2007, they are his name and women, which she knows residents, but they have a family

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member who is a resident, and we have been doing many, many young women who have volunteered

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to serve our armed forces, so we are very, very proud of them.

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And of course, I'm married from our local high schools, too.

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So with that, a new banner is up.

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And if you see that, there are the raw.

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Much Johnson, I hope that I was low-stated at Chinahows Park

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playing your limo-freak.

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Yes.

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Right, Dan?

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And that's what I said.

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It was about what she's doing.

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Thank you for this.

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My daughter's a...

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I'm looking to hear this as 96.

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My daughter turned it 11th st. in school and it's in high school in Miracle. She's now

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stationed in Japan, Yokohama. She'd be for three years and this is honor to have this and I

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appreciate this opportunity. So thank you.

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So what's going to happen here about four years,

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unless you realize, is that you're beginning a better life out, which will have to die on it,

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which is right here, which we'll do for the purple here and there. So without the city,

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I would like to recognize you, and your daughter, or your contribution to an issue.

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Thank you very much, Frank.

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Yes, we have reached the moment again, for you already, for us,

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who was in the U.S. Marines in discharge June 15, 2011.

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All right, Mr. Perez, come on up.

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Time, we also like to recognize Professor Perez.

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As I mentioned, he was just recently signed up in O7, completed a tour

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And that was back in 08, 09, and then in 09, 010, another tour in App Dance Dance Dance.

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Because on the team leader, Swad leader, we see the big hands that know him.

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Currently, he is planning for the future.

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I go into the center and I'm doing the college to become a firefighter.

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He has a one-year-old son, right?

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It's pretty cool.

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The bear here, where you are, don't look right there.

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Oh, this is a sample of that.

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Your little sock.

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His bear was on back and back to the road,

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you know, to your house high school.

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Will you back to wait for him right?

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So, tell us how that experience was

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and what your future holds for you, all right?

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I appreciate you guys as a thing at the time for this and my family coming over here and supporting me.

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And if you do that, let's get all 15 members of the family out there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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They are paying attention to me.

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I need some support.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It really looks quite experienced being out in Afghanistan.

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Especially being only 19 years old, deploying and leaving right out of high school.

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And I'll talk about that right after I left Iraq.

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came back knowing I had to deploy to Afghanistan seven months later and knowing I had to

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kid on the way and it was even harder being gone when my son was born while I was out there

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but I honestly couldn't do this without my family support and then I'm keeping him in my prayers

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and everybody else out there who prays for the troops every night and I just honestly appreciate it

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and it's really taught me how to really appreciate our family and appreciate your time being home

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because it's been a great family that I've been home and I have still trying to get used to being home

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I still feel like I'm only holding it for a little bit, but I'm finally on for good.

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I start scoring two weeks.

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That's an engineering college.

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I plan on becoming a fireman there, so that's pretty much where my future hit a

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lays out right there.

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I plan on completing that hopefully within the next three years and getting a job as a fireman.

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But I appreciate you guys time.

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Very full.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Jeremy, to act when they yourself back to the states, you promised

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to put you out in the yard and land around for the night time.

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This is a big matter, so put it up in your room, put it in your garage, pass it around

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your family and others, put it up in your living room, whatever you want, right here, on behalf

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of our entire community.

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Thank you very much.

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Right, admissions for this evening.

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Now we move to public comments on non agenda items.

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At this time, those persons wishing to address the city council on any matter, whether

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are not at a peers on the agenda, I requested to complete and submit to the City Clerk a request

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to speak form, which is available at the entrance to the Council chambers. Comments will

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be limited to three minutes per speaker. Again, at this time members of the public may address

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the City Council regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the

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City Council provided no action or discussion may be taken on any items, not appearing

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on the agenda. Again, comments are limited to three minutes per speaker. Our first speaker

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this evening is Bobby Griffith.

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Good evening Mayor, City Council members.

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And members of the audience, my name is Bobby Griffith.

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And I'm here tonight to talk quickly about a two-special

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events that are coming up in our city.

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I want everyone to save the day, Saturday,

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October 22nd, 2011, a sense of the library, cooking,

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expo, and vendor fair.

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We'll be selling wonderful cookbooks with recipes

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from your neighbors and friends.

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So we're having cooking demonstrations, there'll be a lot of vendors so you can get a jump start on your holiday shopping,

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kick-rock, DJ, all kinds of fun activities.

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So that is Saturday, October 22nd.

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What I want to talk to you next about is a wonderful event that is taking place this Saturday,

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this 13th, 2011 at 6pm at Shino Valley Community Church.

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at 1-4-6-0-1, paint and drive in the wonderful city of Chinnell-Hell's.

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The Chin family brothers will be putting on a free piano concert.

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The brothers are 17, 15, and 12, and have one numerous awards for their playing.

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The youngest one, Thomas 12, just got their playing at Carnegie Hall.

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This concert is free and will feature a light buffet, dessert and an opportunity to purchase

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our tickets for wonderful raffle prizes.

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We're just asking if possible that you donate money and buy raffle tickets all the money

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raised.

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We'll go to individuals, families and children in need in the city of Chino and Chino

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Hills.

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One of the charities is Isaiah's Rock.

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They're very blessed to have Mayor Ed Graham going to be there.

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Also, the mayor of Chino-Denic Yates, James Nau, the head of the school board, and Gary

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Albert Arcani supervisor.

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That Saturday, August 13th, 3 concert 6 p.m., Chino Valley Community Church.

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You do not have a ticket to get in.

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If you need more information, please call

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L.A. code 909, 6363005, and I do have information here.

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So please support this wonderful event.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you, Mr. Griffith.

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James Stevens.

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Good afternoon, City Council and Mayor.

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I just wanted to come up and just say thank you,

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especially to Steve Nixon, Joe Dyer for the great job.

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guys did on our wonderful stop sign and we give praise to all of you for that and we appreciate

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all of your good works and the whole city it's really been a blessing to us. It's not

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how to deal with it. It's me getting so much smoother. We don't really have this stop sign at

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pipeline and yeah and like last time it's no the home park. So we really appreciate it and

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and this pretty much all I have to say I'd like to say one other thing I don't know if I can

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to do this and not, but the bad thing, I totally support what they want to do, because

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I think we all worship a different, well worship our own way, and we need to show respect

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to them.

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I just feel very adamant about that, and you know, well worship differently, and we all

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believe in the supreme being, or most of us do, we need to respect each other.

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So have a great evening.

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Thank you, Mr. Susan.

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That concludes the request to speak forms on non-agenda items.

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Next, we move on to city department business tonight.

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We have consent calendar items A1 through A13.

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All right.

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Here you are, first night.

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Ten.

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Eight.

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Not one.

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Hang on.

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None.

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And I had ten also.

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That was that motion for approval?

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I was a native sector moving to AHA in February.

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All right.

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Item A-10.

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This is alerting a contract to Griffith Company,

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and the amount of 1,845,291 dollars in 20 cents.

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The construction of the Peyton Drive Heidening Phase 2B Project.

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Mayor Graham, and Council Member Rogers.

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Mr.IGER, yep.

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This is a project we've been talking about for several months.

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It comes up every couple of meetings.

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As far as what's the timing, what's how's it going affect the community?

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And this seems especially with the crowd, we have right now seems like an appropriate time to not wait to the end of the meeting to talk about it.

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Since this is the project we've been talking about the Peyton Whiting Court or Steve, could you give us a little bit of what to expect over the next several months on this project?

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Well with the award of this project tonight, we would anticipate that probably within 30 days we will start constructing.

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Now, we'll include the complete widening of Peyton from English Road to Eucalyptus, including median curb and gutter sidewalk and all landscaping.

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And that construction will probably occur within about a 60 to 90-day timeframe thereafter.

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Now, originally we had talked about this starting March, April, May, June.

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It's different points, and then we're hoping we would start as school was letting out for

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LIDLE and for IELA high school.

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What was the hold-up that prevented us from starting the project in a timely manner?

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We had a glitch with one of the pieces of land acquisition that we had to acquire.

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Now that has been resolved.

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Now as far as traffic concerns, especially for IELA high school, what's been taken

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into account since we're not starting this at the beginning of the summer now.

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We will maintain one lane of traffic in each way during construction.

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After construction hours, we will open it up as much as reasonably possible more than likely what is existing today.

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What time are you fishing out?

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Construction hours are typically 7 a.m. to 330.

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I do understand school starts about 7, 15, 7, 30.

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We will work with the contractor to try and minimize the start time and work out about the back end.

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Yeah, the back end is not the problem, it's always like that.

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Right, right.

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That's all I have.

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I have the same question.

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motion to approve.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right.

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That completes our consent calendar.

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Moving on.

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Item B1 is designating the voting delegate and alternate for the League of California

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Cities annual conference scheduled for September 21 through 23.

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All right.

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Mike.

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A recommendation would be to appoint our city attorney.

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more tensely and also myself. I may or may not be going to that. I'm still trimming it.

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So you are within your ability to point both in one of us as a little assume that responsibility.

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I'd like to do just that.

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All right. It's been moved in a second day.

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That training would be a primary vote, and then I see now I could be secondary though.

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All right. I was in favor? All right.

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Thank you, Mark. Did you know that?

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I understand there are going to be some things on there about attorneys and legal fees and so.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Take care, please.

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Don't fall asleep.

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Next up, we have public hearings, public hearing item C1.

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This is to consider a negative declaration for an amendment to chapter 16.42.020.

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Chinoe Hills Municipal Code, pertaining to special use standards for religious facilities, which would allow heights up to a maximum of 80 feet

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for towers, steeples, or other similar architectural features, and for an amendment to site plan review number zero to SPR zero to BAPS development in case the applicant.

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You happen to know if we still have people out in the other room.

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Is there a thought out there in that?

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People in the lobby.

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If we do have, maybe Cindy, you want to go out there.

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We do have about 10 seats inside if they want to come inside and sit.

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All right.

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So it's really not like that.

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This is a proper phone.

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There are a proper phone staff.

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Make the presentation.

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So, if you have also the way the asked questions to staff, the applicant was then the

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Alaska major presentation.

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The council is allowed to the applicant.

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I was like, okay, I have the proper thing.

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I know it's very important for all of you right here, so sometimes you're very much

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from now, we are going to limit publishing, however, to 90 notes for a pro and 90 notes

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time. All five of us are very well-versed on the project, and we certainly hope that

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years in the bit of thought about the speech showing no information with us.

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That's really what

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If you are a pro, some of the private experience, we will certainly try about that at the end.

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If you do not have the opportunity to speak, all right, we'll certainly do that too.

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Also before we start, I had a couple of questions about our new development director.

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I think we're going to have a work for, and I'm not sure if you'd like for maybe three months, I believe?

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Yes, maybe don't know that Joanne was back in 1995, he's hard-track employee of the city and has been with her since

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1995, in fact she ran some of the project the first time through back in 2002 to 2004.

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So she's our staff then and she's very robust and has a historical knowledge of the project.

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All right, so just let you know about that, too, and I think we're about ready, all right?

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Mr. Sullivan.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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City Council.

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You absolutely correct.

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We're going to go through a staff presentation that we'll do a full analysis and obviously

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inform the council and the audience as to the project.

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I'm going to ask our committee, Development Director,

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join Lombardo to kick it off and then she'll have staff as appropriate to, in particular, a lot

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of the technical work.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Mayor members of Council, we don't have a very detailed presentation for you tonight.

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Realizes this is an important project so we're trying to provide as much information as possible.

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On the project that you'll be looking at tonight has two parts, and the first part is

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the development code amendment. The development code amendment would add item F to the special

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use section of the municipal code, and that special use section deals specifically with

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the development and operation of religious facilities. As proposes the development code amendment

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provides a mechanism through which religious facilities located on non-institutional zone

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sites could achieve tower or spiral heights up to 80 feet, which is similar to what's allowed

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now for religious facilities located in institutional zones. The wording of the proposed

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development code amendment must hide allowance to sites which are mostly adjacent to

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commercially business park or industrialized properties. There are approximately 10 sites in

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that could meet these limitations as the proposed development code amendment language has.

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The second part of the project tonight is a site-plan review amendment that would permit the

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APS to construct our new temple, spires and domes and flags which range from approximately

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42.42 feet into its up to 78 feet.

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And, depending on our principal plan, we'll have a presentation and he'll go into the detail

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of the project.

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And after that, I'd like to just spend a few minutes

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just summarizing the comments that planning commission

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provided one of you the project that can July.

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Can you explain the really, really items?

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This amendment was proposed by the city or the applicant.

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It was proposed by the applicant.

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The city did work with the applicant

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to develop a wording that we felt

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they could make the findings to support, so they did provide some feedback as to how many sites

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would be affected and which sites would be affected by the proposed development code and

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then at language.

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There is a little lot to do with, and it's also worth a little more to ask for them than that too,

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correct?

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Correct.

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Thank you, Joanne.

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Good evening.

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Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.

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Now, the item before you tonight is a negative declaration, development code amendment, and

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site plan review amendment.

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The applicant is BAPS development,

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and this is a slide of their proposed project sites.

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It's approximately 20 acres in size, and is zoned in how the land use designation of

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very high-density residential.

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It's also located on the south east corner of Montevice Avenue and Fairfield Ranch Road.

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This is a view of the project site looking west from Fairfield Ranch Road.

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This is a view looking at the project site north from the 71-freeway.

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To provide the Chancellor in the public a little bit of the project history in 2003,

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the Plan Commission recommended approval of the entire project to the city council.

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In September of 2004, the City Council approved all the entitlements with the exception of the proposed development codependent.

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The previous 2004 development codependent proposed that all religious facility, towered seabulls and other similar architectural features,

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be permitted up to maximum of 80 feet in all permitted zones, subject to the approval of the CUP.

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When staff looked and analyzed the potential effects of this proposal,

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we determined that approximately 185 properties citywide would have been affected.

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The status rates, the proposed 2004 development code amendment, which would have

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approximately affected 185 properties which are illustrated in color, and was, as you can see,

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had a citywide effect.

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City, the staff also used a minimum of 4.5 acres as a minimum lot size, and properties

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own freeway commercial, open space, light industrial, as well as the shops and the

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comments were not included because religious facilities aren't allowed in those zones.

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And the institutional zone wasn't included because they already are permitted to have

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religious facilities, towered peoples or other architectural features up to 80 feet.

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And business park doesn't have a maximum height limit as long as parking and landscaping is met.

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The current proposed development code amendment would add item F to Section 16.42.020 of the

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development code and would state that churches or religious facilities within a non-institutional

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zone and with more than 50% of its site adjacent to a business park, industrial, and or commercial

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zone may be permitted heights up to a maximum of 80 feet by towers, steels, or other similar architectural

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features provided such heights are compatible with adjacent buildings or structures.

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The wording that's in bold just illustrates the difference in wording from the 2004

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to today's proposed development code amendment.

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This night there was certainly potentially affected 10 sites, mainly along the 71 freeway.

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When staff analyzed it, we looked at what the existing site conditions and structures are,

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including Taiwan signs, located on the property as well as adjacent to the subject properties,

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looked at the existing land use and zoning designations, the permitted building heights

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put in development code, as well as the current site elevations.

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Why do you use a word potentially? Aren't there a 10 sites that are affected? Yes, it's a potential

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because the, it's nine potential, because

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religious facilities aren't proposed on the sites,

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currently, they're existing commercial developments.

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Yeah, okay.

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All right, so let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.

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So this slide illustrates an arrow site one,

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which is the Fluna-Greating North site.

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It's approximately 16 acres,

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and has a maximum building height of 45 feet,

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and was previously approved for a 95 foot three-way pylon sign.

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Side number two is the existing crossroads marketplace.

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The side side is approximately 74 acres,

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and has a maximum burden height of 45 feet,

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and it's adjacent to an existing 100 foot four-way pylon sign,

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which is located on the crossroads entertainment center.

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Side number three is the Chinole's promenade.

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The side is approximately seven acres in size,

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has a maximum building height of 45 feet and is adjacent to the proposed SE-109 foot SE-Transmission

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lines that are known as a tachype, as well as some existing 25-30 foot pylon size.

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Number 4 is the property to the south, which is the quartz, the site size of approximately

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11 acres, and has maximum building height of 45 feet, and has the same existing site conditions

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as the China Health Department.

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Henry, just for the general public's edification and so they can identify which sites

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these are, because they may not be that familiar with these.

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The site that we just discussed before is where the China Hills car washes and the Bravo Burger.

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This is where Roscoes is in this particular center, so I think it would give them a landmark

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like that, so I'll know exactly what they're looking at.

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Okay, I know that's correct.

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Yes, and the part of one was the Costco shopping center,

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and of course you identified the former grading works.

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Second number 5 is the Existing Tunnel Shocking Center, which is the Big Lot Center. That's approximately 9 acres in size and has a maximum building height of 35 feet.

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Second number 6 is the Existing Tunnel's Marketplace. It's approximately 27 acres. This is where the 24-hour fitness is located as well as bonds.

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and a maximum building height that's 45 feet, and it has an existing 100 foot freeway

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pipeline sign on the property.

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The second number seven is the Rancho Monovista Mobile Home Park, which is approximately

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24 acres.

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The maximum building height is 42 feet, and it's adjacent to the Commons, which has two existing

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75 freeway power signs and an existing 100 foot freeway pipeline sign, as well as

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approximately 90 foot SC transmission lines along one of this avenue.

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Site number eight is the BPS site and it has a maximum building at the 42 feet and has

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as adjacent to the common as well.

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Site number nine is the existing Circle King crossing site.

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This is where most far go is, as well as the right aid adjacent to Albertsons across

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from Higgins, across from Higginsburg, as approximately 14 acres in size, has a maximum

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double an height of 45 feet, and has a existing 35 foot pylon signs, as well as existing

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over 100 foot SC transmission lines I go through that property.

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Second number 10 is the Higgins Brickler excite, which is approximately 27 acres, has maximum

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the 45 feet, and has similar conditions than the

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Cyclicane crossing site.

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Henry, real quick, you've mentioned 10 sites.

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They're part of this development code potential change.

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Other property, there are a far more properties along that

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corridor just off the corridor.

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You've selected 10, you've mentioned somewhere

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consider if they're under 4.5 acres, that correct?

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Why do those versus other properties that are along the corridor?

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The 4.5 acres was actually, we put a minimum on the previous proposed automatic amendment

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that she got in 41.

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This one, potentially, 10 affected sites, or 9, including that the BPS site are included

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because they meet the 50% surrounding uses of commercial industrial zone properties.

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So they met the standards that were being proposed with the current development code.

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Thanks.

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Thank you.

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50% selected by the law?

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I was 50% selected.

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We came up with that and it's basically just a majority.

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We just wanted to see the properties of the majority 50% or more.

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That's surrounded by non-residential.

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If I can add to that, that was considered bill-puller, I suppose.

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It's considered that the minimum acceptable standard to make a majority.

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In addition to that, just for clarification, it's not just the adjacent land uses, but it also has a proposed provision for consistency with adjacent structures and buildings.

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In the city, there's been various proposed development code amendments associated with projects.

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These have included Chancellor's Place and Oakmont, proposing development code amendments to allow assisted living facilities to be located in CN and CO zones.

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And touch cellular proposed development code amendment to allow wireless facilities to locate on existing.

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Utility structures within open space zones, as well as VilleBorba proposed various own changes in a development code amendment to modify two termination points of ridge lines within our development code.

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Some additional development commitments were

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behind-by-states proposed to resume from PD14-153 and PD24-145

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to PD203-01 and proposed development standards to meet the R.S. standards.

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And the Shops and the Commons proposed zone changes as well as permitted line use and development

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standard changes to specific plan.

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Over how many years does this do these seven constitute?

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When the proposals came in, it was 97, there's a earliest for Chancellor's Place, all the way to 2000 and 2006 for the comments.

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The applicants also proposing a cycline review amendment, which includes approximately 20 architectural features that project above the 42-foot height limit.

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That's the question about the other side.

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Sure.

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The previous one?

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No one.

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Yes.

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So the shots and the comments.

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A very violent, violent moment involved a specific plan.

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Is one proposed for this project?

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Is there a reason why or should it should not be?

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Won't be the difference between those three doing it.

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And the APS doing it is not doing it.

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Mr. Mayor, if I can help out on that question,

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A specific plan is a very comprehensive plan and it addresses the use infrastructure, development

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standards. In the case of this project, the Temple has already, Temple and its other facilities,

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were already approved in 2004 through the CUP.

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All right, they're the answer. Okay. Thank you.

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Now, that happens to us and for, though, they should have gone through a, that process that

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is, is it pretty specific for us?

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It's a potential, but at the time, we were no specific plans in the city.

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The shop was the first specific plan that the city had, then proposed, so it would have been

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something new at the time.

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The state of the Upland is also proposing a cyclone review amendment that includes 20 art

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future is that project above the 42 foot high limit, which are minor portions of the temple facility.

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It's approximately 15% of the temples roof area and 0.13% of the total DAPS site.

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The proposed spires and domes range in height from 42 feet, 8 inches to 78 feet.

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I was going to wait if I get up in my question for him to wait for the end of his presentation to ask him

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I'm playing with my iPad and I've got little bubbles all over the place, but as it relates to the number of

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spires, domes and towers, Henry, were there 20 in their visual proposal refresh my memory?

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Yeah, actually in this.

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And they were all the same exact height at the time?

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Hi, yes.

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00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:45,050
This next slide actually illustrates the 2004 proposed elevations.

465
00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:52,670
The maximum height proposed at that time was 70 feet to the top of the spire and 78 feet to the top of the flight pool.

466
00:37:53,350 --> 00:37:53,650
Okay.

467
00:37:53,650 --> 00:38:00,310
The one difference that you're going to see in the next slides, which is the current proposed

468
00:38:01,010 --> 00:38:07,510
pipeline review amendment, the applicant probably can go into better detail, but the

469
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:13,550
isolators at the bottom went from a whole battery to above ground, so that added height

470
00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:14,370
to it.

471
00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:24,170
So, the previously taken it back to it, the previously proposed elevations, I don't know

472
00:38:24,170 --> 00:38:32,770
if you could tell, but the spires and the domes are higher in that previous proposal

473
00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:40,530
than what is currently being proposed today, because of the increase in hype at the base.

474
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:41,770
Because I see isolation.

475
00:38:43,010 --> 00:38:47,710
And there's the two-inch gap in between the base isolators and the floor of the temple.

476
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:48,550
It's actually floating.

477
00:38:48,830 --> 00:38:49,330
Is that correct?

478
00:38:50,090 --> 00:38:51,590
It's like 12 feet.

479
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:52,550
I'd more 10 feet.

480
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:52,990
I believe.

481
00:38:53,650 --> 00:38:54,770
10 or 11 feet.

482
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:56,370
The isolators are above.

483
00:38:56,570 --> 00:38:56,770
Yeah.

484
00:39:00,910 --> 00:39:05,530
So this is the currently proposed cyclone review amendment.

485
00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:07,550
This is the east elevation.

486
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:14,370
And the blue line illustrates the permitted maximum building height per the volume and code at 42 feet.

487
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:21,550
The other call-outs are of the five major spires and one dome.

488
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:25,230
That would shoot well above the 42 foot high limit.

489
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,200
This is the proposed west elevation.

490
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:38,470
This is the proposed south elevation.

491
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,720
And this is the proposed north elevation.

492
00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:55,630
In doing the review, the environmental determination of the initial study was that a negative

493
00:39:55,630 --> 00:39:57,690
declaration would be required for the project.

494
00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:04,970
The city had a public review period from June 25th to July 18th of this year, and some

495
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:09,970
of the potential less than significant impact findings of that negative declaration included

496
00:40:09,970 --> 00:40:14,750
air quality, greenhouse gas emissions and noise due to the additional temporary construction

497
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:19,590
activity of the spires and domes, as well as aesthetic impacts.

498
00:40:21,410 --> 00:40:26,070
The aesthetic impact analysis concluded that tower steeples and spires are typically narrow

499
00:40:26,070 --> 00:40:31,790
and minor portions of the total building mass, and that the many potential affected development

500
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:38,330
codependent sites currently have structures or adjacent two structures over a feet in height.

501
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:44,030
Also, future religious facilities propose on one of the potentially affected development

502
00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:49,390
segment sites would be subject to the development code standards, conditional use permit,

503
00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:52,850
a site find review, and a secret review at that time.

504
00:40:57,970 --> 00:41:02,050
The applicant did a balloon survey.

505
00:41:02,750 --> 00:41:11,170
The red balloon illustrates the proposed tallest buyer at 78 feet, and this is a view looking

506
00:41:11,170 --> 00:41:12,930
across the 71 freeway.

507
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:21,290
This is another view looking at the site from across the 71 freeway.

508
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:35,880
I thought I'd interrupt you for a second, and if you look at that view, in fact, as you see right about the roof line, what appears to be all those towers in the distance there.

509
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:43,040
And those are nearly 80 feet taller, they're not those of the, those of the numbers, but existing foot.

510
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,740
Usually structures along none, one of the seven.

511
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:48,560
This

512
00:41:53,780 --> 00:41:58,340
is a view that proposed site from the monovysome of the home park entrance,

513
00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:10,360
and this is a view of you looking at the site from the closest residents, located within the monovysome of the home park.

514
00:42:16,180 --> 00:42:21,320
And this is a view looking at the site from the intersection of Red Barn Court and Fairfield Ranch Road.

515
00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:25,160
Can you back to the previous one for a second Henry at the mobile home park?

516
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,400
Okay. Thank you.

517
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:42,180
Kind of the drafting of the staff report, the staff received approximately 313 public comments.

518
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:51,720
Some of the support comments were the enhanced aesthetics of the BAPS facility, cultural diversity, religious freedoms,

519
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,540
and the positive programs and natures of the BAPS provides the community.

520
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:16,020
Some of the opposition commented on the lack of article consistency with the surrounding community that this decision could lead to additional users asking for an increase in height for their proposed projects, the peace and development and increase in traffic.

521
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:28,520
after the staffing of the staff report, the city received an additional 267 public comment,

522
00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:34,660
supported similar to previous comments, and the opposition had a couple new ones which

523
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:41,980
stated impacts of views on adjacent properties, as well as the applicant proposing a

524
00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:43,620
to change the development code to fit the development.

525
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:48,880
So just to review, because we did receive some letters in that vein where they said

526
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,420
approval of this development code change would affect the entire city, it will not affect

527
00:43:55,420 --> 00:44:01,740
the entire city, just the nine of this is mentioned, development code sites,

528
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:07,240
okay.

529
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,380
The first staff would recommend that the city council approve the negative declaration, development

530
00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:18,820
code amendment 10 DCAO2, and so I find review amendment O2 SPRO7 based on the findings

531
00:44:18,820 --> 00:44:22,000
effect, and subject to the conditions of approval.

532
00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:33,020
Can you talk about Henry Rye, BAPS, not coming with a amendment just for their site, only?

533
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Why effect my other piece of property?

534
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,940
The fact I can address that, there is a number of ways the applicant could have come forward

535
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:52,860
with asking for a high extension. One was about encoderment and the other was a zone change.

536
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:57,420
And that's one of the questions I will also brought up by the Planning Commission during

537
00:44:57,420 --> 00:44:59,980
review of the project, the Institute of

538
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,280
Additional zones and representatives does allow for spires, staples, towers for religious facilities to go to AFE.

539
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,980
However, the institutional zone is very limited in terms of the types of uses that are provided there.

540
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:26,020
At the same time, we have a development code, a municipal code that allows religious facilities through a CUP and a large number of different zones and large number of residential and commercial zones.

541
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:51,800
So, an option could have been to come in for a zone change, but as staff looked at this it also there's a rationale for having some provision for religious facilities not within an institutional zone to have an opportunity, an avenue through which they could apply for the same standards as those religious facilities in the institutional zone.

542
00:45:51,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Currently, the city has a belief, the religious facility structures, there may be other religious facilities in centers, but there doesn't need buildings.

543
00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:09,540
On four institutional zones, four are not, four are in other residential commercial zones.

544
00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:20,500
On those in the institutional zone, we have a one facility that has a cross up to 80 feet and a roof line up to about 65 feet.

545
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:22,960
And then there is another religious facility

546
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,000
both along Peyton that is, I believe,

547
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,180
their spire is close to 70 in the upper 60s.

548
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,600
And the reason that some of these religious facilities

549
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,520
are designated institutionalists,

550
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,420
I understand that is that when the city was incorporated,

551
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,500
then they did their new General Plan and Development Code,

552
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,260
is that the institutionalists are on this place

553
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:48,120
on the churches that were already in place.

554
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:53,900
So, if you are located at a line point in the new religious facility, you've got the institutional zone.

555
00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:57,560
As the new churches have come in since that time, we're religious facilities.

556
00:46:58,180 --> 00:47:05,420
Most of them I believe have come in through the CUP process on non-institutional sites.

557
00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:17,860
And I was just going to say in addition to that, these are the items up here on the screen that were brought up by the planning commission.

558
00:47:17,860 --> 00:47:20,180
We have already addressed them.

559
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:21,200
I remember them.

560
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:25,820
One of the comments was why limited at 80 feet.

561
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:27,860
What if somebody wants 100 feet?

562
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,100
And the rationale for limiting at 80 feet,

563
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:33,960
again, is that it would be consistent with the institutional zone

564
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,120
that has at 80 feet.

565
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:39,720
Consistency is generally a good practice in a municipal code.

566
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,260
We've already talked about the difference between

567
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:45,880
his own change and the development code amendment.

568
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:53,700
And also as we adjust these earlier, what's the rationale behind the 50 percent, and that would be on minimum threshold.

569
00:47:58,390 --> 00:48:01,110
And we could, the 10 properties, one is BAPS.

570
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:03,090
We have nine properties remaining.

571
00:48:03,230 --> 00:48:05,050
You identified each one of them.

572
00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:16,070
How many of those prop nine properties could put in to build a church or make a submission put in a church right now up to that height?

573
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:26,190
Well, I mean, there could be other factors such as the commercial development selling it

574
00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:26,610
to them.

575
00:48:26,830 --> 00:48:30,070
But right now, there's existing uses along there.

576
00:48:31,350 --> 00:48:37,090
I guess meaning the two ones that are potential that we haven't heard from for religious

577
00:48:37,090 --> 00:48:39,930
So facilities would be the

578
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:40,910
uh...

579
00:48:40,910 --> 00:48:44,930
secret canyon crossings which has vacant property as well as the

580
00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:47,850
uh... and now former pigments break site correct

581
00:48:47,850 --> 00:48:49,430
and if i could add to that

582
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:54,070
and if those properties would be required to come into a condition you just

583
00:48:54,070 --> 00:48:55,930
permit process so it would be

584
00:48:55,930 --> 00:48:59,830
up to the discretion of a plan and commission to decide whether or not that's appropriate

585
00:48:59,830 --> 00:49:03,710
and as any pointed out there would also be the site plan review process a

586
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:08,230
process, so there would be a discretion of the city to first of all decide whether or not

587
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:13,250
a religious facility is appropriate on those sites. And then to decide if it's appropriate

588
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:19,510
for those who are religious facilities to have a spire, power, et cetera, up to 80 feet. So

589
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:23,410
there would still be quite a bit of discretion involved. Several of those properties are already

590
00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:29,070
developed. Let's take example the Costco Center. So that's developed that up for some

591
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:33,210
reason that changed hands. But it was still a shopping center and once they leveled it,

592
00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:37,470
potential is that one property which is one of the nine remaining would not have a church

593
00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:38,670
on that facility.

594
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:40,410
That's correct.

595
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:44,410
I'm just trying to figure out how many really, when you boil it down, how many properties

596
00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:47,790
among the nine would actually have the potential?

597
00:49:47,890 --> 00:49:50,690
The potential that also be the great indoor site.

598
00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:52,110
That's there.

599
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:57,710
I mean, that that may be raised as well, you know, if they can't find a compatible tenant

600
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:58,130
for it.

601
00:49:58,130 --> 00:50:01,850
So you're talking Higgins, you're talking Circle Canyon, possibly great indoors,

602
00:50:03,930 --> 00:50:04,430
and any

603
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:04,690
others.

604
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:06,290
I mean, it's a speculative.

605
00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:09,950
I would suppose, right, Henry, depending upon your economy, what happens with changes

606
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:12,090
of ownership or expired leases?

607
00:50:12,670 --> 00:50:19,510
All right, I think the point is understanding it, too, is that kind of those sites could

608
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:25,630
through CUP process, have religious facilities with this code amendment would do, would allow

609
00:50:25,630 --> 00:50:30,110
them to have religious facilities that could go up to 80 feet.

610
00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:33,170
So that's really the distinction.

611
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:38,690
The gradient door site, the structure there on certain it's not 80 feet.

612
00:50:39,210 --> 00:50:45,410
But that could be converted to a religious facility through the CUP process.

613
00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:57,070
So there could be another major drawback might be two, and they look at the parking associated with how many feet they would propose to build out as a religious facility.

614
00:50:57,470 --> 00:51:01,570
Obviously it would have to meet the parking standards for religious facilities as well, right?

615
00:51:02,090 --> 00:51:03,590
So that could be another limited factor.

616
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:09,410
But several of the sites that we're looking at, there's an example of the property adjacent, which is the Motivist of Mobile estates.

617
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:14,330
There's no way anything else is going to go in there because it's already built to the max, basically correct.

618
00:51:14,930 --> 00:51:15,890
go to the max.

619
00:51:16,210 --> 00:51:21,690
I mean, it isn't basically built right out to the property lines almost in that whole property.

620
00:51:23,770 --> 00:51:26,090
Okay, so they'd have to tear down something if they wanted to put it in.

621
00:51:26,190 --> 00:51:32,730
And again, like Mr. Hansley said, the only thing we're really dealing with is not whether or not the likelihood of a church going into those locations,

622
00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:37,370
but if a church went in, whether or not they'd want to go up to the 80 feet height restriction.

623
00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:37,990
Correct.

624
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:38,830
Okay.

625
00:51:38,830 --> 00:51:45,930
If the A-F-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B was it just a SQL or a spy or it wouldn't include the building

626
00:51:45,930 --> 00:51:47,870
it would just be dark-detrial features.

627
00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:49,630
Still was building, right?

628
00:51:50,010 --> 00:51:57,010
Let's still have to be whatever it's known for, and that a feature I'm a technical feature.

629
00:51:57,110 --> 00:51:59,530
That's an interesting term.

630
00:52:00,550 --> 00:52:01,610
Where's that mean?

631
00:52:03,090 --> 00:52:07,910
And I'm not going to let you up the 80s and let me build. Is that an architectural feature?

632
00:52:09,790 --> 00:52:14,530
Yeah, yeah. Something that would be potentially considered an architectural feature, an architectural

633
00:52:14,530 --> 00:52:20,690
feature would be a minor adornment to everyone with disabilities typically associated with the

634
00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:23,030
religious practice of that faith.

635
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:27,810
And again, at this point we're at what 13, what percentage of the total white plan is?

636
00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:33,730
The total area, yes, about 30%, yes, it's about 100% of the entire site.

637
00:52:34,610 --> 00:52:39,130
And what's the definitive number where it becomes too much that it becomes a proof of it?

638
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:49,730
Well, the rationale behind the development economy and that there's enough discretion within the language to allow the city to make that determination.

639
00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:57,570
Obviously, our contextual features considered something that would be relatively a small amount of the whole building was out of half the roof line.

640
00:52:57,810 --> 00:53:02,730
That would be a qualifies in architectural features as a subjective review of what he has.

641
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:05,870
From a platform staff standpoint, we would do a finding.

642
00:53:06,130 --> 00:53:17,490
We would do a study and we would provide documentation as to what qualifies and to why the proposal would not qualify in our opinion to as an architectural feature.

643
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:20,870
But there's no hard and fact number than Joanna has had.

644
00:53:22,510 --> 00:53:26,530
You're talking class, flagpole, spire.

645
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:30,230
Yes, it's what's understood as an architectural feature.

646
00:53:30,350 --> 00:53:34,410
Again, that word is already in the city's code and institutional sound.

647
00:53:35,250 --> 00:53:36,810
And we're looking for a consistency.

648
00:53:38,130 --> 00:53:42,630
Joanne and Harry, let's talk about this particular property specifically though.

649
00:53:43,450 --> 00:53:47,570
The structure itself, the ceiling of the temple itself, isn't it?

650
00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:48,710
Under 42 feet?

651
00:53:49,090 --> 00:53:49,490
That's correct.

652
00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:55,290
Okay, so everything above 42 feet, which would be the dome set of proposed, the spires, the flag poles,

653
00:53:55,670 --> 00:54:03,430
those are called architectural features and do not really apply to the area that could be

654
00:54:04,290 --> 00:54:09,990
inevitable which is under the 42 feet correct. So everything that they're proposing that goes above 42 feet

655
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:15,230
is an architectural feature. And I think that's an important distinction to make this here because

656
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:19,750
actual building, the ceiling of that temple, is under the 42-foot height restriction.

657
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:24,890
Can I ask about the Planion Commission decision?

658
00:54:26,450 --> 00:54:28,490
It was a four-member vote, right?

659
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:36,470
But in this paper, I talked about two members that voted yes, but they had concerns.

660
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:40,530
Were those the concerns you mentioned on?

661
00:54:40,830 --> 00:54:41,770
Yes, yes.

662
00:54:41,770 --> 00:54:47,370
And the two of them that did vote in favor of the project, one was the development code

663
00:54:47,370 --> 00:54:51,350
and then it seemed to be confusing and why not a change of zone.

664
00:54:51,830 --> 00:54:57,730
And the other one was maybe the minimum adjacency should be more than 50 percent.

665
00:55:01,010 --> 00:55:03,810
And the one we'll vote was really poor what reason.

666
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:04,910
What do you think?

667
00:55:05,630 --> 00:55:13,030
I really can't say another was discussion from that commissioner regarding maybe the 80th

668
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:22,070
was too limiting, but again, it was, I can't summarize it to what the decision was based on.

669
00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:28,530
It was specifically targeted towards religious facilities ability to change that or I think have that ability to,

670
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:33,230
but have that flexibility perhaps as well as the interpretation that I got speaking to the individual.

671
00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:37,110
And you're like the other was just, it appears that's the same question that afternoon.

672
00:55:37,650 --> 00:55:41,710
It just seems extremely cumbersome to include these other nine properties in here.

673
00:55:41,710 --> 00:55:47,210
you spoke about, you addressed it, that it just seems at first blush, that it seems quite complicated.

674
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:53,750
Right. Right. But maybe I also add that in the case of doing a development code amendment,

675
00:55:54,130 --> 00:55:58,050
a development code amendment is something that would affect a number of properties.

676
00:55:58,530 --> 00:56:06,890
And so to be a reasonable development code amendment, it would have to be reasonably applied to other properties other than the DAPS site.

677
00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:09,470
And again, that was some of the criteria we were looking at.

678
00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:13,890
Is it reasonable for other properties to comply with the criteria?

679
00:56:16,510 --> 00:56:16,990
Yes.

680
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:23,550
I think everybody asked on mine, I was trying to follow my previous notes from this past several

681
00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:23,790
days.

682
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:29,650
The one of them, I guess it begs the question, we've made several references to the existing

683
00:56:29,650 --> 00:56:34,510
90-foot existing proposed to hatchet reliance in the city.

684
00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:39,010
When those are increased to fold, you know, I hope that that doesn't become a new standard

685
00:56:39,010 --> 00:56:43,030
that's such an egregious project. Number one, number two, that's not a standard that we ever

686
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asked for in the city of Chinoelles. I hope that doesn't become a comparative analysis of the

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as these existing ones are for, you know, further performance to come forward and say, well,

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gee, you've got two hundred foot towers here. This is where we need to go. I hope, you know,

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in my lifetime, I know it also is that that never becomes a possibility that we use as the baseline

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stand or ever, ever, ever.

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I'll leave it at that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the questions and the floor is yours.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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Mayor and members of the Council.

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My name is Jeff Haber from Paul Hastings.

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I represent BFPS development.

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We're going to do a brief presentation

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And for you tonight, we won't reiterate the things that the staff said in its report, but

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I do want to take just a moment to thank staff for all of its hard work on this project.

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It really has been a collaborative effort, and we appreciate all the work that Joanne and

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Henry and the other folks and the staff that have done.

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What we'll do in this report is I've got to my left run at Patel who will talk a little

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bit about the history of BAPS at this site.

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and then we'll talk about the religious significance of the Mandir.

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Then I'll go through and talk a little bit about the development code of amendment itself,

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the effects and the impacts of the of the Mandir.

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And then to my right forendo she will talk a little bit about the BAPS involvement in the community

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of Chino Hills and the various things that we do with the community that's represented here tonight.

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So we'll take a few minutes of your time with your indulgence and we're also available obviously for any

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questions as the process goes along or at the end.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Mayor.

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I'm so pleased to be Council.

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Thank you for having us here today.

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For over a decade now, the BAPS congregation, Chino Hills, has been working with the

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city of Chino Hills to complete the BAPS Mendeering Cultural Center.

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Our journey, of course, began back in the mid-90s when the organization began its search

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for a single place to build a place of worship.

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In 2002, BAPS purchased property located on Fairfield Ranch Road near the corner of Montives Avenue.

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After two years of working with the city to complete the land use and entitlement process, the city council approved the BAPS project in its entirety with one exception, the additional height of the Monday.

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Thus in 2004, the city council approved the building of the Monday or the south are that up to only 42 feet.

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Two years later, the organization began construction of the cultural complex, which included

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an assembly hall, reception center, classrooms, a gymnasium, a kitchen and a directory.

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After three years of hard work, the congregation completely construction on those buildings,

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and weekly assemblies began in Chino Hills.

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You may be wondering why it took the congregation almost five years to complete construction

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of just a handful of buildings.

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It is because the organization is a not-for-profit organization dedicated to building a

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It's a song, but it's a sad song.

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Volunteers ranging from engineers to doctors, children to teenagers, have dedicated thousands of man-hours to having

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build them under a cultural complex. These same individuals have donated their hard-warning money

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for over 10 years to help with the project. Children have sacrificed buying toys and candy, teenagers

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01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:23,360
have sacrificed buying cell phones and laptops, and a dose of sacrificed buying cars and going on vacation,

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all for the sake of completing our place of worship. In 2010, the congregation, in the organization,

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began constructing the Mendeir as set forth in the Scriptures.

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On a parallel track, volunteers of your organization began preparing to propose a

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,180
development code amendment to the city of Shino Hills.

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Currently, phase one of the cultural complexes complete and they include the

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rectory, the assembly hall, the reception center, the gymnasium, and the classrooms.

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01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,840
In addition to these buildings, the organization has also recently

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completed construction of solar car ports.

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And if you look over here, it's going to be identified by number

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by number seven, as well on your slides as well.

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In addition to completing these buildings,

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those solar cohorts were designed for run purpose.

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,620
It was just to remove the cultural center

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and the Mendeir off the electrical grid.

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In fact, based upon our initial estimate,

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the organization may be able to deliver energy back to the city,

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to help ease the burden of local energy consumption.

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,040
When the sensitivity of our natural resources,

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the organization is not only relying on solar power,

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but also on reclaimed water for its landscaping, the growth course is to protect our environment and rely on clean energy.

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Construction of the Mondeo, which is identified by number 6, is currently underway in spans at approximately 30 feet.

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The foundation, which includes the base-licelator system, which was discussed through a literature protected against Earthquake, is currently completed.

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The Mondeo itself, of course, is the most important and significant part of the project, and without it, worship is simply not complete.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,680
Construction, construction of the Nendier, including its proportions, are strictly governed by the Scriptures.

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Indeed, the proportions of the Nendier are calculated based upon a detailed scriptural formula

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that is based upon the image of God that will be placed inside of the Nendier itself.

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In this case, BAPS is chosen to place the smallest image inside of the Nendier to ensure that it builds the smallest possible Nendier itself.

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Based on the 54-inch image of God that will be placed inside the Mendeir, the minimum height of the Mendeir itself must be at least 78 feet in height at only 1 point.

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It's highest point.

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Contrary to some beliefs, the Mendeir itself will not be a 78 foot building. Only one spiral will reach that height.

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However, if one were to further break that 78-figure down even further, one would learn that the stone structure actually stops at 66.25 feet.

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and the remaining 11.75 feet is a flagpole that is 2 inches in diameter.

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Further, that's fire actually tapers, and is wider at the base, and becomes very small as it increases in height.

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The visual impact of such a fire is incredibly minimal, like noted in the staff report.

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In addition to picking the smallest image possible for the Mendir, the organization is compromised by reducing the Monday's height and size as requested in 2004.

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First, the height of the stone structure of the main spire was reduced from 73 feet to 66 feet.

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In addition, the overall square footage of the Minder was reduced by 6800 square feet.

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These reductions were successfully completed despite having to increase the foundation by 6.5 feet.

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Finally, when the script is provided us an opportunity to reduce the size of the Minder, we chose to reduce the size of the Minder.

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All these scriptures, all these sacrifices compromises were completed within the scriptural

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01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:42,240
requirements.

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Of course, without the requisite height and proportions, the Mendeers self cannot be consecrated

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01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,680
and used for worship.

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It is also important to note that the Mendeers self represents the image of God and as such

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must be constructed according to the scriptures.

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As we discussed previously, the Mendeers self is a place of worship.

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On a typical Sunday, worshipers would come to the Mendeers to offer their devotion and pray

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part of their individual worship. Once their individual prayer is completed, the individual

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will remove to the assembly hall or to the classroom to be part of their assembly service

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similar to a Sunday school in another church. There are no congregations services held

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inside of the Mendeir itself. The Mendeir in fact can only hold approximately 110 people

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01:04:24,660 --> 01:04:29,540
based upon the religious practices that are completed inside of the Mendeir. Not only does

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in the South for the very small amount of people. The Sunday worship serves 200 to 250 families

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01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:41,560
from the local Chino Hills area. This is our most Sunday service. In addition, the Chino

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in addition to Chino Hills, there are three other BAPS centers located in Southern California.

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They include San Diego, Bakersfield and Victorville. Our clergy based in Chino Hills regularly

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attend worship in these local centers to minister and counsel the members of the faith there.

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During three religious holidays, families from the other BAPS centers may attend.

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This is however unlikely because those are likely leaders, and they would attend,

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and they would stay back to organize and manage the holiday at their local center.

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If for all of these reasons that we've proposed to development code amendment to the city of Chenele Hills,

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I'll go ahead now and pass it to my colleague here for Indosi who also talk about,

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01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:26,280
a little bit about, sorry, Mr. Jeff Hayberg will talk about the code amendment itself.

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Okay, good evening, Jeff Hayberg again.

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I wanted to just spend a few minutes talking about the specifics of the code amendment and

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what we're proposing to do and what its impacts will be.

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01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:47,800
Again, John and Henry really covered a fair amount of this, so I'll be relatively brief.

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,680
In 2004, the City Council did approve the Site Fund review and related entitlements

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,720
that allowed the construction of the BAPS Center, including a man deer, but was not approved

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:04,500
in 2004, however, was the development could have been proposed at that time, which is

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01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:08,860
Joe Anne and Henry pointed out would have applied to far more properties across the city,

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and therefore we had a man deer approved, but just would have approved with the existing

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height limit in the zone of 42 feet.

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But at that time, the city did a full environmental analysis of all of the projects impacts,

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including traffic and parking impacts from a fully occupied cultural center and a fully occupied

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01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:35,060
manned deer, as well as the visual impacts from having an 80-foot tall manned deer.

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So I wanted to just emphasize that the traffic and parking were already looked at at that time.

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In fact, they did the analysis of the highest possible parking requirements and traffic requirements based on having

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01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:55,300
1767 people on site at one time, which was the physical maximum of people that could be on site,

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:03,960
including the biocode maximum in the Mandir itself, although has run it pointed out, no congregational services will occur in the Mandir,

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01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:14,700
and that's really a place for individual worship, where folks who are coming to the site will spend on average probably only about 15 minutes of their visit to the site.

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most of the visit will be spent in the Assembly Hall, which is where the Congressional Services

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will occur.

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That Assembly Hall, by the way, has already been constructed, is complete and is open.

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In 2009, 2010, we met with the City staff on the number of occasions to talk about various

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possibilities, the zone change, the variants that Joanne mentioned, as well as various different

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01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,140
iterations of the development code amendment.

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We in city staff collectively decided on the focus code amendment because it was determined that it really had a limited impact across the city and would be provide the fairness for religious institutions that weren't in institutional zones, but still protect residential communities with the 50% requirement.

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As Henry mentioned, the impact is minimal and really is unlipted along this 71-free way.

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01:08:10,660 --> 01:08:17,620
It's also important to point out as staffed, to understand that this included none of them

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because only 10 sites would be affected.

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01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:25,760
But there are several other provisions that are required before religious institution could put up

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01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:30,540
by a steeple, a manager, or some other architectural feature.

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First, it has to be a religious institution.

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It can't be a commercial institution.

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It can't be a residential institution.

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It has to be religious.

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Second, it can't be occupierable square footage.

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It has to be an architectural feature, which, as Joanne pointed out,

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is already defined in the city's code.

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And finally, it would have to go through all the other

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01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:52,580
entitlement processes.

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01:08:52,580 --> 01:08:57,680
a CUP site plan review and environmental review, you couldn't just come in and put this up.

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01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,940
So somebody wanted to take the cost code, for example, and turn it into a religious institution

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01:09:02,940 --> 01:09:09,440
and apply for this, the cost code couldn't go to 78 feet, only a spire could go to 78 feet.

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Only for religious institution, not for a cost code.

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01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:19,280
And it would still have to go through the ordinary CUP site plan review and environmental review processes.

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01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,320
And we already went through all this so I don't need to.

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01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:33,280
We are proposed, manager, the tip of that flagpole, we feel be lower than a number of other

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,160
signs and other pylons in the city.

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,520
And we don't even have to go to the power lines.

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,220
I agree that we never need to go there.

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,520
We're much lower than things that already exist in the city.

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01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:47,620
The city has approved, not that some third party approved.

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:53,640
Again, I would just point out that the 32 feet is the current pipeline that that's the

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height of the assembly hall. The roof line of this building, the highest occupival area,

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01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:06,500
is only 34 feet. So everything above 34 feet is purely an architectural feature from the

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01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:10,900
city's perspective, obviously has religious significance to B.A.K.S.

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:21,040
And then finally, I would just point out that the spires would occupy only 15% of this building

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,260
on the roof line.

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01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:28,900
But if you look at the entire 20-acre site, it's 0.13%.

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01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:35,540
So that's in two tenths of 1% of the 20 acres would be above the 42-foot height limit.

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01:10:36,020 --> 01:10:40,460
So, thank you and now I'll turn it over to Porn Doshy, we'll talk a little bit about the APS and

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01:10:40,460 --> 01:10:41,160
Chino Hills.

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01:10:48,170 --> 01:10:48,750
Good evening.

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01:10:49,190 --> 01:10:53,630
Members of the Chino Hills City Council, City staff, community members, and neighbors.

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01:10:54,210 --> 01:10:59,030
My name is Porn Doshy and I reside at 16, 854, Cameron, Court, and Chino Hills.

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And I'd like to spend the last few minutes of our presentation tonight speaking of our involvement

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in our community and what that is not to the organization.

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Now, I know many of you are already aware of our efforts, but I want to briefly review them for the audience here tonight.

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All of blood drives have collected over 1,000 pints of blood in Chino-Hosellone.

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01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:25,130
In fact, in 2005, we were able to set the record for the most blood collected in one day.

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01:11:25,970 --> 01:11:31,350
Attended by some of you are annual health fairs, which are one of 40 health fairs held by BFES

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01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:37,590
charities across the country, have provided free testing and consultation with volunteer doctors for the community

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01:11:37,590 --> 01:11:42,370
while also giving the community the opportunity to learn about healthier lifestyles.

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01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:49,310
Additionally, in these trying economic times, we've also focused on trying to help the less fortunate in our community

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01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:52,750
through our Thanksgiving food drives and also through our holiday toy drives.

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01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:59,530
In these drives, each year our volunteers deliver much-needed food, supplies, and toys to families in need.

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01:12:00,410 --> 01:12:09,770
And our volunteers experience, not just the happiness and the eyes of the children and the families were able to offer assistance to, but more importantly, a sense of fulfillment and a sense of purpose,

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01:12:10,150 --> 01:12:14,750
and the eyes of the younger members of our congregation who work to make these drives a success.

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01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:23,010
Through these initiatives, the youth are empowered to be active, to be engaged, to be conscious members of the community and the leaders of tomorrow.

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01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:30,770
Our biggest community event every year is our annual Walkathon, which many of you have attended in the past.

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01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:41,310
There are 45 such BAPS congregations throughout the US that join with their local communities to raise funds for where the local causes and needs while encouraging healthier lifestyles.

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01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:47,490
Last year, BAPS charities Chino holes walk upon benefited the Chino hole high school academies.

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01:12:48,270 --> 01:12:53,870
The kids from the high school responded in an incredible way, and together we were able to ensure the program continues.

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01:12:55,110 --> 01:13:00,370
As noted earlier, our congregation has also strived to be an environmentally responsible member of the community,

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01:13:00,870 --> 01:13:06,450
through our solar carports which make us a net contributor to the power grid and also through our water reclamation efforts.

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01:13:08,050 --> 01:13:16,790
VAPS also opens its doors to the children of our community through our annual education and career development day and through the National Junior Basketball League.

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In terms of the NJB, we were approached by members of the community looking for a safe and local place to play. Our facility includes a gymnasium and we were happy to open our doors to the NJB Boys and Girls teams.

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01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:33,250
It's great to see these kids playing, having fun, and learning at our facility.

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However, in each of these instances, where our congregation has reached out to serve the community,

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it has been especially rewarding for us to see the response of the community.

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And really, that's what I want to focus on tonight.

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Not our involvement in the community, but rather the involvement in the response of the community.

894
01:13:54,570 --> 01:13:57,290
Each of the things that you see on the screen, and that I've mentioned,

895
01:13:57,290 --> 01:14:02,710
We're successful because of this community and the support and the encouragement we receive from all quarters.

896
01:14:03,450 --> 01:14:06,010
Truly, China holds has been a great home far congregation.

897
01:14:06,570 --> 01:14:09,450
When we reach out to the community, the community responds.

898
01:14:10,110 --> 01:14:11,750
And for that we are truly grateful.

899
01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:20,230
Indeed, the community's response toward our congregation and our organization through this process has been incredible and heartwarming.

900
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:22,890
Many, many letters of support have been written.

901
01:14:22,890 --> 01:14:27,210
And tonight, the support from our community members has been simply overwhelming.

902
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:34,790
If I may, I'd like to ask the audience to please stand to show their support for our organization through this process.

903
01:14:40,420 --> 01:14:49,220
In addition to the people you see standing here, there are 140 to 150 Chino Hills residents who support this project standing outside as well.

904
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:49,980
Thank you.

905
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,740
As you can see, this community has been and continues to be great for BAPS. Thank you.

906
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:05,480
So thank you very much and we're available for any questions that you might have either now or later.

907
01:15:06,340 --> 01:15:09,900
We had a question. We went up here. We'll ask them now, we'll go back later.

908
01:15:10,140 --> 01:15:10,940
Have you had a meeting with anyone?

909
01:15:11,060 --> 01:15:13,660
All right, thank you. I'm sure we'll be back with that.

910
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,620
Thank you.

911
01:15:17,470 --> 01:15:21,830
All right, it is now a little bit up to the public hearing now.

912
01:15:22,750 --> 01:15:25,430
Well, I'm going to wish you, I got to speak. What do you think?

913
01:15:25,710 --> 01:15:28,450
I'm going to guess 200. All right.

914
01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:34,430
So, two hundred times, two hours,

915
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,660
so we start talking about three, it's been a year

916
01:15:41,660 --> 01:15:43,400
and we're just trying to stress from the project.

917
01:15:46,250 --> 01:15:55,390
As I mentioned before, we had them before, all five of us are very familiar with the proposal,

918
01:15:55,890 --> 01:16:02,150
We are the Holy Talk. Please don't repeat. If we don't get you after knowing you know

919
01:16:02,150 --> 01:16:07,750
it, we'll do a stand-up type of thing again. Just let me acknowledge that, you know,

920
01:16:08,050 --> 01:16:14,310
that you didn't want to speak, but we can not get you. Do you want me to call it a tenor

921
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:21,750
time and yeah. So a little bit that's awesome. How about total of the other time? We're

922
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:27,250
going to save you. I listen to the side wall to our left. So John and we have to have a

923
01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:34,650
seat unless you speak in the first one of the one through ten. And then we'll hire you up,

924
01:16:34,930 --> 01:16:41,510
hustle up to the podium and we'll hit the show on the road. Okay. Let's start with Carol Aspiss,

925
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:47,190
10 Perkins, so I fell from that bite down until they lay up on the wall.

926
01:16:47,470 --> 01:16:54,710
Deborah Hernandez, Adam Elison, Chetal Patel, Ed Randon,

927
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,800
Michael Swenson, Tom Kelly, and

928
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,840
Savitri Zala, all right, I love him, though.

929
01:17:07,220 --> 01:17:07,720
Thank you.

930
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:10,200
That's a name like Aspera, I always get to go first.

931
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:11,900
No, not always.

932
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:14,580
Anyway, I need this Carol asked me to try

933
01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:16,400
over a little bit more cold in the mic.

934
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:17,440
Right there.

935
01:17:17,780 --> 01:17:18,940
Oh, to the mic, okay.

936
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,160
I thought you said the light, if it was going right.

937
01:17:23,060 --> 01:17:23,180
I was going right.

938
01:17:23,180 --> 01:17:24,060
It was a light.

939
01:17:24,940 --> 01:17:28,100
When I was Carol asked her, I live in work here in Chinohills.

940
01:17:28,980 --> 01:17:31,740
And I've addressed the plan commission

941
01:17:31,740 --> 01:17:34,080
before that I had a little bit more information

942
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,060
that I wanted to share with the commission today.

943
01:17:38,220 --> 01:17:41,000
And what I'd like to address is that I believe

944
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:47,920
the approval for the BAPS tempo is low overdue that starting way back when they actually

945
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,300
give up their property to the city so the city could create their dream which is like

946
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:58,080
this whole area here in the city the BAPS have this area that they were working on to buy.

947
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:05,440
So the property was on here is institutional which if you know it or not there's other

948
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:11,320
other churches by Lauren Payton again that are institutional, so they'll have more limitations

949
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:17,300
to the heights. So if perhaps had stood firm and kept that property, there would be no

950
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:23,000
issue with building restrictions or them having to go through this right now. The institutional

951
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:29,100
zones were aligned, they're building up to 80 feet. But the city did approach the community

952
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:34,780
and it was that that's given up that location, explaining the city plans and dreams for that property.

953
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:39,480
And to learn a long court battle, or with the property,

954
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,700
that's made that possession, so that so they did accept

955
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:46,840
another location, and everybody basically should cancel

956
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,200
that agreement. Not long person mentioned the delays

957
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,300
that would occur because of the different zoning on new property.

958
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,840
And it has zoned our in three right now for high density,

959
01:18:58,180 --> 01:19:01,440
and you can see the type of things that they're going through

960
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:05,220
to get this approval. So people may dispute

961
01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:12,060
whether it should be resumed, okay, or as institutional, or if it's some type of exception,

962
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,580
be granted to the fairfield ranch location.

963
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:22,220
So, but the decision was made that they go for the code amendment as Joens talked about.

964
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,880
So, by applying a code amendment across the subsection, the planning commission in the

965
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:32,900
BAPS has worked on that amendment together to provide a solution that provides a good solution

966
01:19:32,900 --> 01:19:41,040
fairness to the city for future RM3 zoning issues. So, their exchange is the thing I want

967
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:47,820
to talk about. It's an important human principle and it holds a community together and forms

968
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:55,340
the basis for a broader morality. Both sympathy and cruelty require imagining how your behavior

969
01:19:55,340 --> 01:20:03,480
effects others. So, a bath community has continued to express a lot of positive behaviors

970
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:08,640
showing their desire to work out an amenable solution with the city.

971
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,180
While a few citizens have expressed a lot of pressure on us, please wrap up.

972
01:20:14,660 --> 01:20:19,320
Okay, we have gathered today in the community tonight to share our support and pray that

973
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,600
the city council was passed this code amendment tonight. It is time that we show the same

974
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:30,680
I want to respect that that's the soon to our city and help them fulfill their dream and complete their temple. Thank you very much.

975
01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:40,520
Just 10 perkins.

976
01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:47,740
Are you talking fine?

977
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:48,600
Yes.

978
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:52,120
Hello, 10 perkins.

979
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,500
Thank you on what mayor and council members.

980
01:20:55,340 --> 01:20:56,480
I don't want to take a whole lot of time.

981
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,840
I think that your staff have done a fantastic job bringing all the information to you.

982
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,300
The long trail that's been sought by this organization.

983
01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:11,900
I can only say that there are a really nice group, they are going to provide a structure

984
01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:14,760
that I think is going to really benefit our city.

985
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:22,960
And I just think that you should note that this petition, I do think that one of the things

986
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:28,000
that was brought here at this desk was all the one of the things that had been done to

987
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,600
this and for this community by this organization.

988
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:37,760
And this kind of a group definitely is as an enhancement to our community and I think that we should move forward with this.

989
01:21:37,860 --> 01:21:38,740
So thank you very much.

990
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:43,640
Thank you very much.

991
01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:50,560
But let's do this.

992
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,860
How are you? You are a side of a long chair.

993
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,960
Please let's rely after Deborah.

994
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,180
It's a long long.

995
01:21:56,420 --> 01:21:56,780
That's right.

996
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:57,440
That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

997
01:21:57,740 --> 01:21:59,220
So we have a staging line.

998
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Oh yeah.

999
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:07,760
If I was just moving, so we'll have an on-back and I'll have a staging.

1000
01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:09,240
All right.

1001
01:22:09,380 --> 01:22:09,500
Better.

1002
01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:11,400
All right.

1003
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,480
Dad, do you have three words?

1004
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:15,380
I started 50 seconds ago.

1005
01:22:15,700 --> 01:22:15,880
Thank you.

1006
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:16,660
Thanks.

1007
01:22:17,260 --> 01:22:19,140
Good evening there, Graham Council members.

1008
01:22:19,740 --> 01:22:25,560
I'm speaking tonight on behalf of the DAPS and in support of passing this particular amendment.

1009
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:30,930
As I noted in my comments at the Planning Commission recently,

1010
01:22:32,410 --> 01:22:36,390
There are already a number of structures in the city, and it has been presented tonight.

1011
01:22:36,630 --> 01:22:42,230
Then I already made or exceed this high, including my own personal choice for House of

1012
01:22:42,230 --> 01:22:42,570
Worship.

1013
01:22:43,650 --> 01:22:50,030
I don't see this as really changing much in our city other than allowing the bouts to have

1014
01:22:50,030 --> 01:22:53,170
their home for worship.

1015
01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:55,770
There's also been concerns for

1016
01:22:59,770 --> 01:23:01,650
the past 21 years.

1017
01:23:01,650 --> 01:23:16,450
As a member of the Plan Commission for the past nine years, I've relied heavily upon the professional staff and the little council to do the heavy lifting and relation behind the scenes for numerous projects before they reach the public hearing.

1018
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:21,810
This development will kind of limit before you, has been reviewed and examined and regained

1019
01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:27,170
by legal counsel and staff extensively over the past two years, and they would recommend

1020
01:23:27,170 --> 01:23:27,850
approval.

1021
01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:31,390
You plan for this and support that recommendation to you.

1022
01:23:32,250 --> 01:23:36,610
The people of China has been given ample opportunity during the process throughout the

1023
01:23:36,610 --> 01:23:37,010
houses.

1024
01:23:37,690 --> 01:23:44,150
These paper articles, notices of the plan commissioning, and this mean, along with detailed

1025
01:23:44,150 --> 01:23:48,670
information about the projects set by CDC staff not just to the surveillance

1026
01:23:48,670 --> 01:23:54,170
property owners, but to anyone who ever come in on the project, both

1027
01:23:54,170 --> 01:23:58,990
pre- and pre- and pre- and pre- and this is a community that does not shy away from

1028
01:23:58,990 --> 01:24:04,230
voicing opposition to certain projects as I have personally witnessed at other

1029
01:24:04,230 --> 01:24:08,650
families' commission meetings and is evidenced by the most recent to hatch a

1030
01:24:08,650 --> 01:24:09,290
project.

1031
01:24:10,590 --> 01:24:15,590
Something is wrong with our system, or our communication, when an applicant is performed

1032
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:20,690
for this long, provides everything the city has requested, being so open and accessible

1033
01:24:20,690 --> 01:24:26,850
to staff, commissioners, council, and especially the public, only to get to this point

1034
01:24:26,850 --> 01:24:28,630
and have a surprise ending.

1035
01:24:29,630 --> 01:24:34,650
Activation is by a few in opposition to a development code amendment and special treatment

1036
01:24:34,650 --> 01:24:40,130
do not understand the planning process. Development colonel owners were not invented for

1037
01:24:40,130 --> 01:24:44,710
BAPS, and we have seen many that the plan for missing over the years and none of them

1038
01:24:44,710 --> 01:24:50,150
has ever had the same accusation. However, the development colonel owner processes a

1039
01:24:50,150 --> 01:24:56,870
planning tool, like a variance, a zone change, or an overlay, that allows us, the people,

1040
01:24:57,530 --> 01:25:02,210
the commissioners and council to direct our own destiny, and in this case I believe for

1041
01:25:02,210 --> 01:25:07,610
better. Develop the parliamentments, like other tools, allow us the ability to adjust and change

1042
01:25:07,610 --> 01:25:13,850
when appropriate. The process and the people have spoken, vote in favor of this project

1043
01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:18,150
in this application, let's look forward to this grand opening of this amazing project.

1044
01:25:26,410 --> 01:25:31,390
Good evening, Council members and staff. My name is Jeepal Patel. I'm a resident of Chino Hills

1045
01:25:31,390 --> 01:25:37,850
and a practicing attorney. I reside at 16384 Sicily Drive. I'm here to see a few words about the building

1046
01:25:37,850 --> 01:25:42,110
code and code amendments. The purpose of a building code is to protect the public health,

1047
01:25:42,450 --> 01:25:46,510
safety and welfare. A building code amendment, variants, or special use permit,

1048
01:25:46,690 --> 01:25:51,930
maybe necessary to further this purpose. For example, China also has had between 9 and 18

1049
01:25:51,930 --> 01:25:57,170
code amendments since 2006. These amendments have been necessary so that the building code

1050
01:25:57,170 --> 01:26:02,290
can evolve with the changing needs of the city and its people. Since China has incorporated

1051
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:06,650
in 20 years ago, its population has nearly doubled to 75,000 residents.

1052
01:26:08,050 --> 01:26:12,410
Over the past several years, this growth has brought about many changes along the 71 freeway

1053
01:26:12,410 --> 01:26:12,850
corridor.

1054
01:26:13,550 --> 01:26:17,290
Recently, we have all enjoyed the convenience of having stores close by.

1055
01:26:17,570 --> 01:26:22,250
From the opening of the Chinole shops on Grand Avenue to the Chinole's Commons and Marketplace

1056
01:26:22,250 --> 01:26:23,430
on Chinole's Parkway.

1057
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:29,010
Many multi-story hotels have also opened, such as the Eiers, Extended State, and Holiday

1058
01:26:29,010 --> 01:26:31,630
in, housing our friends, family, and business associates.

1059
01:26:32,490 --> 01:26:35,470
These structures are powered by new Southern California

1060
01:26:35,470 --> 01:26:36,590
Edison power lines.

1061
01:26:37,430 --> 01:26:39,170
Along with the added convenience that these structures

1062
01:26:39,170 --> 01:26:41,170
provide are the changes that they have brought

1063
01:26:41,170 --> 01:26:42,310
to the Chino-Hose landscape.

1064
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:45,250
The Chino-Hose Shots sign is a 100 feet tall

1065
01:26:45,250 --> 01:26:47,090
and the Chino-Hose Commons and Marketplace sign

1066
01:26:47,090 --> 01:26:48,290
is also a 100 feet tall.

1067
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:50,770
The hotels are all three stories of taller

1068
01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:53,170
and the power lines are over 100 feet tall as well.

1069
01:26:54,090 --> 01:26:55,990
The code of the BAPS project is

1070
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:58,990
I'm going to use the changing landscape and population of Chino-Hels.

1071
01:26:59,490 --> 01:27:03,970
Our requested event of 78 feet was chosen after examining Hindu scriptures and as a short

1072
01:27:03,970 --> 01:27:06,150
as height, they conform to the scriptural requirements.

1073
01:27:07,290 --> 01:27:11,370
It will have minimal impact on the residents and have no effect on the public health and safety.

1074
01:27:12,190 --> 01:27:17,250
We respectfully ask that you consider the code amendment as a simple tool to make a necessary

1075
01:27:17,250 --> 01:27:18,650
change in our evolving community.

1076
01:27:18,950 --> 01:27:19,470
Thank you.

1077
01:27:19,850 --> 01:27:20,070
Thank you.

1078
01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:20,310
President Trump,

1079
01:27:24,610 --> 01:27:26,490
President Trump, it granted.

1080
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,760
Good evening, Madam Graham Council members.

1081
01:27:31,480 --> 01:27:36,660
As a Firstell Wrench, President and former President of the Homeland Association, I just want

1082
01:27:36,660 --> 01:27:42,820
to speak to the height issue and traffic issues that have been brought up for years, and there

1083
01:27:42,820 --> 01:27:45,360
are no issues, as far as Firstell Wrench has concerned.

1084
01:27:45,580 --> 01:27:50,460
We have had never experienced any issues regarding those two obstacles, potential obstacles,

1085
01:27:50,460 --> 01:27:57,420
If anything, we'll do well with the groups that that is where we have traffic and a lot of outside people coming through there and

1086
01:27:57,420 --> 01:28:03,540
We've seen and countless other things, but this has been a good good good good to work with. I personally enjoy going over there

1087
01:28:03,540 --> 01:28:09,640
Taking my family and as far as for the ranch concern, we welcome it and I just could never thank you. Thank you

1088
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,160
Thank you

1089
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:10,740
One

1090
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:21,780
of the mayor and members of the council. We thank you for your time this evening

1091
01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:28,820
I am Michael Soronson. I'm a member of a three-person presidency of the Chino-California

1092
01:28:28,820 --> 01:28:34,960
stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Waterly Saints. You would know us as Mormons.

1093
01:28:36,620 --> 01:28:51,760
We are eight congregations and a little over 3,200 members. I'm here this evening and

1094
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:59,780
with a number of reasons that I felt this made a lot of sense this evening. Each of those has already been persuasively argued.

1095
01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:13,960
And so my list is very short now. I would simply say that as I moved here, more than two decades ago, we were a few homes and canyon corral at that time.

1096
01:29:14,740 --> 01:29:17,660
And I love what the city has become.

1097
01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:33,540
As I leave my home on Sunday mornings to go for film my own responsibilities, one of the things that I love about this city is seeing the number of people who attend the churches of their faith.

1098
01:29:33,540 --> 01:29:40,200
Our churches are filled, our parking lots are always filled with cars and I've loved

1099
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:44,940
that about our city, where religious community may we always be so.

1100
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:53,280
I'm a border by profession and I understand in support ordinances that keep order in a city.

1101
01:29:54,780 --> 01:29:59,760
But I believe there are times when it makes sense to adjust those ordinances.

1102
01:30:00,690 --> 01:30:18,510
We've seen willing in the past to have allowed much greater edifices than what are being considered here. Not only in their height, but also in their mass. Those edifices advertise our shopping centers and places of business and entertainment from the freeway.

1103
01:30:19,210 --> 01:30:25,110
We're pleased with the tax dollars that come to our city that benefit our city as a result of those structures.

1104
01:30:25,930 --> 01:30:33,630
But in the long run, much greater benefit comes to our city through the families and the faith

1105
01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:35,430
of those who live here.

1106
01:30:36,810 --> 01:30:42,990
Shouldn't we not grant such permission in something that will be of much greater and lasting

1107
01:30:42,990 --> 01:30:45,030
benefit to us as a community?

1108
01:30:45,390 --> 01:30:46,390
I urge your yes, Lord.

1109
01:30:46,590 --> 01:30:47,630
Thank you very much.

1110
01:30:53,520 --> 01:31:01,820
This is the first time where you're going to be up to 10, remember the Umburg, Carlos Baumgarten,

1111
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:15,040
Marco Baumgarten, Michael Carter, Greg Umburg, Angela Pebbles, Jettendra Dave, and Benjamin Sanchez.

1112
01:31:15,660 --> 01:31:17,600
Now you think of a line, don't worry about the order.

1113
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:22,300
If you first just jump in that lead chair and then tossing on the roof in there.

1114
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,900
Good evening council members, Mr. Mayor.

1115
01:31:26,260 --> 01:31:27,360
My name is Tom Kelly.

1116
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:33,720
I've been resident of Diamond Bar for 12 years and a member of the resident of Chino Hills

1117
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,740
for the past 13 years.

1118
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:47,580
I spend particular attention to look at our city and I feel very fortunate to have

1119
01:31:47,580 --> 01:31:53,800
I'm here to support the amendment through the the BAPs amendment as stated.

1120
01:31:54,980 --> 01:31:59,980
I make this, you know, based on just a three reasons, there's many issues, many reasons.

1121
01:32:00,660 --> 01:32:05,080
But, number one is the gentleman earlier tonight says, you know, I support the religious freedom.

1122
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,460
We are a country that has been built on religious freedom and tolerance.

1123
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:16,560
And I see, I also understand that there's a lot of legal issues when, you know,

1124
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:22,900
Council members and other civic members do in their deciding whether or not certain legal

1125
01:32:22,900 --> 01:32:27,260
things are appropriate or not, but I also look at the support of the community.

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01:32:27,620 --> 01:32:32,880
We have, as letters say, that out of a 300 or a 310 letters that were submitted in favor

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01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:33,760
of this project.

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01:32:34,540 --> 01:32:39,480
And I look at this, I look at that side of it, I'm critical thinkers, I look at the pros

1129
01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:42,560
and the cons, I look at the overwhelming support.

1130
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:47,740
And I'm just glad to express my own, you know,

1131
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,980
or not proposal, but, you know,

1132
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,740
support of this mandate to be built as it was designed,

1133
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,420
and allow the membership of the BAPs and other people in our community

1134
01:32:59,420 --> 01:33:02,680
to express it on religious belief as state itself.

1135
01:33:03,060 --> 01:33:03,660
Thank you.

1136
01:33:03,860 --> 01:33:03,940
Thank you.

1137
01:33:04,740 --> 01:33:05,420
Good

1138
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:12,860
evening, everyone.

1139
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,680
Council members, Honorable Council members.

1140
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:22,840
My name is Sanitri Zella, and I reside at 1637 Katina Drive in the Volano community.

1141
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:29,380
I absolutely love this city, and I feel extremely blessed to be a part of our close-mate unified community,

1142
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,760
regardless of what spiritual backgrounds we may help from.

1143
01:33:33,260 --> 01:33:40,200
They can really belong to a vibrant history of individual development that contributes to the beautiful city we are a part of.

1144
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,980
I am here today to express my personal insight of the BAPS project.

1145
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:49,740
As humans at one point or another, we're bound to have a moment of self-discovery.

1146
01:33:50,380 --> 01:33:54,040
For me, it was when my parents had my tender fingers in their hands,

1147
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:56,760
and led me to the gates of the BAPS temple.

1148
01:33:57,420 --> 01:34:01,220
I had entered a world of vivacious culture, and preserved heritage,

1149
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,720
a world of infiltration, unity, care, and love.

1150
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:11,780
By organizing countless charity events, BAPS cultivates character that sends them to the

1151
01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:16,560
development of tomorrow's youth by emerging integrity, unity and state.

1152
01:34:16,820 --> 01:34:22,080
Then there is a place of worship and a place of soul, a sad disregard, racial class, and

1153
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,660
other demographic lines and welcomes all.

1154
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:31,060
Thomas Payne has one said, the world is my country, all mankind are my brother, and to

1155
01:34:31,060 --> 01:34:37,240
And God is my religion. In the same way, Monday, my second home has allowed me to discover

1156
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:42,600
my purpose in service that is a pivotal aspect of VAPS. As we have learned in today's

1157
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:47,980
presentation, just a few good points of the temple of reach of some day feet, and the

1158
01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:54,120
mass of the temples, not below 42 feet. Above that height, our whole architectural features

1159
01:34:54,120 --> 01:35:03,820
It's crucially representative of the image of God, without those as prayer scriptures, the temple is considered incomplete and worth an authentic worship is not possible.

1160
01:35:05,020 --> 01:35:09,580
It is a logical to hastily generalize that the temple of block views in cause traffic.

1161
01:35:10,220 --> 01:35:14,680
First, the visual impact study revealed most significant concerns with views.

1162
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:22,520
The sad pillar reached a 178 feet of only two inches in diameter, something virtually invisible from nearby neighborhoods.

1163
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:28,800
The temple was served as a symbol of religious and architectural consistency with the city.

1164
01:35:29,500 --> 01:35:34,600
Second, many of us in the audience have seen that traffic road has never been an issue.

1165
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,660
The height of the 20-ups, sorry, the height of the 42 feet is so unoccupied.

1166
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,520
Or as Mr. Bennett pointed out, then habitable, some habitable.

1167
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:47,240
And the mall caused an increase in traffic whatsoever.

1168
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:52,300
So let me on my comments tonight by saying that the city council should approve this project

1169
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:57,660
because there is white support from the community and because there is simply a no significant impact

1170
01:35:57,660 --> 01:35:59,640
of youth or traffic whatsoever.

1171
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:06,100
The founding of deals of our nation are emblematic of the faith we have in our individual beliefs and ways of life.

1172
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:12,620
The concept is nothing new as its application has been embraced ever since the Puritans set foot in America

1173
01:36:12,620 --> 01:36:15,020
to freely express their faith.

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01:36:15,020 --> 01:36:21,220
After then came many more who sought liberty, and so freedom was finally coined an ink in our constitution.

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01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,540
We have faith in the freedom that our country promises to uphold.

1176
01:36:26,260 --> 01:36:26,560
Why?

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01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,240
Because we know that.

1178
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:29,220
Yes.

1179
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:30,680
Because of God we trust.

1180
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:31,580
Thank you.

1181
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:32,060
Thank you.

1182
01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:41,740
Good evening, Mayor.

1183
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:42,200
Thank you.

1184
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:43,340
Thank you.

1185
01:36:43,340 --> 01:36:44,040
My name is Linda.

1186
01:36:44,380 --> 01:36:49,920
I would like to express my strongest support for the construction and completion of the

1187
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,660
B.A.P.L.M.D.R.

1188
01:36:51,660 --> 01:36:57,860
I threw the temple numerous times, and was very, very impressed by the cayenne people I met,

1189
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:02,620
the girl's initial statement, the temple grounds, and beautiful architecture,

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01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:06,220
but the expand will be a masterpiece for our community.

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01:37:06,940 --> 01:37:12,680
I strongly believe that the completion of the fire will only add to the architectural beauty of the complex.

1192
01:37:13,420 --> 01:37:19,880
Once completed, it will be a showroom example of religious tolerance and harmony within our diverse community.

1193
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:27,540
Travel anywhere in the world, as a tourist, and what is it that you are attracted to and you take pictures of.

1194
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:35,120
People are drawn to the buildings, particularly the structures that have been built for the beginning of time for the worship of God.

1195
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:42,580
No matter what culture, place, or time, it is these places of worship that people are fascinated and drawn to.

1196
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:46,340
We should be proud to have the temple stand here in our community.

1197
01:37:46,340 --> 01:37:52,860
Not only does the fight provide a peaceful place for worship and prayer, but the temple and cultural center

1198
01:37:52,860 --> 01:37:55,640
in which is the study in families, the Chino Hills.

1199
01:37:56,260 --> 01:38:01,000
We should welcome the opportunity to embrace religious and cultural diversity in our community.

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01:38:01,820 --> 01:38:06,840
The temple and complex allows for a place in worship, and the members are actively benefiting

1201
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:12,840
and supporting the community with such activities as health fairs, walk-of-arms, and blood drives.

1202
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:18,340
those scriptures require volunteers and in the community. Please grant them the

1203
01:38:18,340 --> 01:38:21,480
code amendment that they need so they can build their temple according to

1204
01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:22,200
their scriptures.

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01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:33,270
Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of the City Council, my name is Carlos Baumgartner.

1206
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:37,730
I've been a resident of China Hills for 19 years and I'm here in support of the

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01:38:37,730 --> 01:38:42,870
Baff's Project. Some of them recently wondered out loud why it is that we're here

1208
01:38:43,550 --> 01:39:02,870
And the answer came to me over the weekend, we had heard about witness to you having the opportunity to say thank you to BAPs for their cooperation for their good citizenship, for their willingness to cooperate with the city in helping to facilitate your being able to build this very structure that we're in tonight.

1209
01:39:03,590 --> 01:39:11,550
At the time of the initiative, there were no high restrictions for the site, even though the city was made aware of the applicant's construction requirements.

1210
01:39:12,170 --> 01:39:19,710
However, the site offered as an alternative by the city and ultimately selected does have limitations which may be dealt with through approval of the DCA.

1211
01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:31,290
So, light, you have the opportunity to clear the air in this matter and do what's right for Chino Hills and for a group that is clearly extended its hand in friendship with the city at every step in the process.

1212
01:39:31,290 --> 01:39:37,470
Your planning commission supports this application, your city staff supports the application,

1213
01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:43,870
many members of the community support the application as well, which is simply to complete a labor of love

1214
01:39:43,870 --> 01:39:48,110
and devotion undertaken by a group of people who want to exercise their faith.

1215
01:39:48,910 --> 01:39:55,490
With a facility being built as a testament to man's devotion to God and belief in the sanctity of life through peaceful charitable pursuits,

1216
01:39:56,050 --> 01:40:01,090
the best facilities and enhancement to our city. So tonight, I'm certain that you'll

1217
01:40:01,090 --> 01:40:05,450
do the right thing. The further the final step of the construction process is the greatest

1218
01:40:05,450 --> 01:40:07,490
thank you possible. Thank you. Thank you.

1219
01:40:12,590 --> 01:40:16,730
Thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for this opportunity.

1220
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:24,490
I am Martha Bongarten, his lesser half maybe. I urge you approval this evening as a proposed

1221
01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:28,270
development code amendment. My detailed rationale was shared in a

1222
01:40:28,270 --> 01:40:31,690
letter to city council last week. I appreciate the time you spent

1223
01:40:31,690 --> 01:40:35,150
reviewing those comments. I'd like to use my time tonight to

1224
01:40:35,150 --> 01:40:39,330
reinforce just three key points relating to the proposed DCA.

1225
01:40:40,190 --> 01:40:43,770
Firstly, such a DCA is among the routine planning processes.

1226
01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:47,590
The commonly allowed cities to operate in adaptive growth. As

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01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:51,670
much, there's nothing extraordinary or abnormal about this DCA.

1228
01:40:51,670 --> 01:41:01,730
Our possible commonly cited objections have been overcome through exhaustive due diligence on part of the city staff and the panic commission as well as BAPS development.

1229
01:41:02,570 --> 01:41:07,470
And thank you, I'd like to praise the staff and the panic commission as well, amazing work.

1230
01:41:08,210 --> 01:41:16,090
Secondly, variances, development code amendments, zoneswats and other modifications have been performed consistently in the past.

1231
01:41:16,090 --> 01:41:21,690
In fact, we all know that a combination of these tools was responsible for this beautiful

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01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:22,690
city facility.

1233
01:41:24,250 --> 01:41:29,070
Finally, let's recognize that the city utilized four or five such entitlement processes

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01:41:29,070 --> 01:41:31,170
to accomplish the shop's development.

1235
01:41:32,150 --> 01:41:39,670
It begs the question, why should it be either difficult or, as some have purported, controversial

1236
01:41:39,670 --> 01:41:46,490
to pass just one relatively modest development code amendment to accommodate a religious facility.

1237
01:41:48,250 --> 01:41:54,150
That very question seemed to be on the mind of a gentleman who joined me at a recent BAPS Openhouse.

1238
01:41:54,750 --> 01:41:58,330
He grew up here in Channel Hills, but doesn't make a home as often as he'd like.

1239
01:41:59,370 --> 01:42:01,830
He's been doing a live travel over the last 10 years.

1240
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:06,770
One of his trips took him to the Temple Mountain Jerusalem. Not that long ago.

1241
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:13,250
He compared his experience during the Mondaire and the Hoverley, to a very favorable way

1242
01:42:13,690 --> 01:42:18,450
to what must have been a truly remarkable experience in Jerusalem at the Temple Mount.

1243
01:42:19,330 --> 01:42:26,750
Benjamin happens to be a US Army Ranger and a veteran of 10 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

1244
01:42:26,930 --> 01:42:28,770
He's a graduate of Iowa High School.

1245
01:42:29,410 --> 01:42:34,750
He's awesome dear friends, some of them recently, and has made many personal sacrifices

1246
01:42:34,750 --> 01:42:36,230
as you can imagine.

1247
01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:40,000
It's been no picnic for us either.

1248
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,600
You see, he also happens to be our son.

1249
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,720
It seems to shame to consider all that personal sacrifice

1250
01:42:48,180 --> 01:42:50,900
and loss of life to secure freedoms for people

1251
01:42:50,900 --> 01:42:54,100
have a world away that we face any possibility

1252
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:55,540
no matter how remote.

1253
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,120
That such basic freedoms could be denied

1254
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,140
to beloved friends and neighbors.

1255
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:02,300
Right here in Chinohills.

1256
01:43:02,300 --> 01:43:06,980
over nothing more than a routine development code amendment.

1257
01:43:07,780 --> 01:43:09,320
Thank you very much.

1258
01:43:09,580 --> 01:43:09,780
Thank you very

1259
01:43:14,670 --> 01:43:15,290
much.

1260
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:15,950
Thank you very much.

1261
01:43:16,110 --> 01:43:16,390
Thank you.

1262
01:43:17,210 --> 01:43:18,350
Thank you very much.

1263
01:43:19,110 --> 01:43:20,010
I do a mention.

1264
01:43:20,190 --> 01:43:21,850
Mark about this in point.

1265
01:43:23,010 --> 01:43:30,530
We have received the hundreds of letters of support and those against and we've met them all.

1266
01:43:30,530 --> 01:43:38,610
Even though you may get an automatic reply from city staff, all of those are forwarded accounts of first.

1267
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:39,530
We agreed them.

1268
01:43:41,190 --> 01:43:44,650
I try to respond as much as possible, but by last week, it got overwhelming.

1269
01:43:45,050 --> 01:43:46,530
I cannot keep up.

1270
01:43:47,490 --> 01:43:50,950
So, Jindo, that letter is, and your letter is to account.

1271
01:43:51,310 --> 01:43:52,550
So, thank you for your input.

1272
01:43:56,210 --> 01:43:58,390
Honorable Mayor and City Council members.

1273
01:43:58,490 --> 01:43:59,690
My name is Michael Carter.

1274
01:43:59,690 --> 01:44:05,490
I've lived in the city for 21 years, and I've enjoyed seeing the city grow and mature.

1275
01:44:06,550 --> 01:44:14,650
This statement is being spoken to express my faux support for the development code amendment, submitted by the BAPS Swamy,

1276
01:44:15,290 --> 01:44:17,850
Chevy Swaminarian, Mandir, and Cultural Center.

1277
01:44:18,530 --> 01:44:24,010
As my day and hour in a major conservator protest and church known to some of you at 70th Venice,

1278
01:44:24,630 --> 01:44:27,530
even I believe in religious fairness and equality.

1279
01:44:27,530 --> 01:44:32,590
to the radar aspects of our city, our culture of diversity, and in light and flexibility

1280
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:38,090
that the city counts as utilized to accommodate requirements that satisfy economic

1281
01:44:38,090 --> 01:44:40,350
social and safety of the city.

1282
01:44:41,630 --> 01:44:47,510
As has been stated earlier, this existing Civic Center site, which was originally

1283
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:54,330
scheduled to be used by the BAPS organization, is in an institutional zone. The sites

1284
01:44:54,330 --> 01:44:59,610
the B.O.P.S.W. offered an exchange where to be suitable for their development

1285
01:44:59,610 --> 01:44:59,970
Thank you very much.

1286
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:10,820
Unfortunately, the current BAPF, the APF site, is not an institutional zone, hence the need for the DCA.

1287
01:45:11,860 --> 01:45:20,060
The future of the Maria, as a percentage of the leverized structure that required the adoption of the DCA, are specifically minimal.

1288
01:45:20,060 --> 01:45:30,020
as are elected officials, honoring your word which is at its core the definition of integrity

1289
01:45:30,020 --> 01:45:37,400
is a vital importance to any society. The city offer properties to BAPS organization

1290
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:45,980
in exchange for the land that this civic center currently occupies. The city should honor

1291
01:45:45,980 --> 01:45:50,460
It's agreement to provide a site suitable to the needs.

1292
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,740
As has been stated, in the end years of place of worship,

1293
01:45:54,460 --> 01:45:58,980
the DCL brings fairness and equality to religious facilities

1294
01:45:58,980 --> 01:46:02,940
that are not located in an institution's own.

1295
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:06,740
As has been stated, institution's own are limited in the city

1296
01:46:06,740 --> 01:46:09,780
and once the doctor, they're very difficult to change.

1297
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,860
Therefore, I've been in consistency to the code

1298
01:46:12,860 --> 01:46:18,660
by allowing architectural features, the non-extitioner zones

1299
01:46:18,660 --> 01:46:22,380
and any circumstances is fair to our religions.

1300
01:46:23,860 --> 01:46:27,600
An objective reading of the DCI clearly indicate that it's

1301
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,100
specifically narrows the requirements and significantly

1302
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:35,120
limits the number of properties that can fall under this amendment.

1303
01:46:35,860 --> 01:46:40,440
On its own merit, the DCI is fair and protects the right

1304
01:46:40,440 --> 01:46:49,360
relevant residents of this city. The DCL is limited to the architectural features of churches

1305
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:57,060
and religious facilities, homes, hotels, and apartment restaurants are not impacted. The

1306
01:46:57,060 --> 01:47:03,240
City Planning Commission has approved the DCL after comprehensive analysis. I hope that

1307
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:09,560
the principle of integrity and the value of an objectivity near them enlightened approval

1308
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,820
of this DCA. Thank you.

1309
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:12,240
Thank you.

1310
01:47:16,510 --> 01:47:17,790
Good evening, Mayor.

1311
01:47:17,930 --> 01:47:19,850
Some of you council members and the audience.

1312
01:47:20,190 --> 01:47:21,390
My name's Angela Peoples.

1313
01:47:21,630 --> 01:47:26,050
I've been a citizen of Chinohells for about 20 years.

1314
01:47:26,090 --> 01:47:28,610
Ten of those years spent in Fairfield Ranch.

1315
01:47:29,470 --> 01:47:31,810
Everything I've wanted to say to the same dean has been said.

1316
01:47:31,970 --> 01:47:33,350
I don't want to pick up too much time.

1317
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:35,270
I do want to say a couple of things.

1318
01:47:35,450 --> 01:47:40,150
Thank you to the BAPS community for embracing me and embracing my family

1319
01:47:40,150 --> 01:47:41,910
and some very good friends.

1320
01:47:42,230 --> 01:47:43,910
They're my new family, my new friends.

1321
01:47:45,230 --> 01:47:46,370
I've been a resident of South Africa.

1322
01:47:46,370 --> 01:47:47,790
I've lived for 10 years.

1323
01:47:47,950 --> 01:47:51,670
And when I looked at this, as I do with most things,

1324
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:53,170
I make decisions on.

1325
01:47:53,210 --> 01:47:55,750
I look at it from both sides, the pros and the cons.

1326
01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:59,950
Now, once have I ever jumped to the cons on this project.

1327
01:48:00,430 --> 01:48:03,150
And I hope the people here tonight in opposition

1328
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:06,650
listened to everything and maybe attended

1329
01:48:06,650 --> 01:48:09,990
one of the many open houses and changed their mind

1330
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:20,170
also. The main feature of this hall in the community in the BAPS community has been in ongoing

1331
01:48:20,170 --> 01:48:25,310
for over two years and, like I said, I'm an resident of Fairfield Ranch, I've never experienced

1332
01:48:25,310 --> 01:48:32,390
any kind of traffic problem. And I loved the building, I loved the people and I urge you

1333
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:37,750
to support and pass this. Thank you for your time. And thank you for the awesome job you guys do.

1334
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:41,630
I'm at this city in the way it's run and thank you to the planning commission.

1335
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:51,700
This is from Air City Council. I'm going to go and I'm going to Arizona Hills for 24 years

1336
01:48:51,700 --> 01:48:58,880
to live in the Oak Ridge area. Most of what I was going to say is I've been said so that will limit me.

1337
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:05,800
I'd like to talk about some issues that came up. One that came up with a planning commission was

1338
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:13,300
why did why did the baffes continue in the building process when they had this code

1339
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,620
hampering them in the end?

1340
01:49:18,700 --> 01:49:23,720
They took it on a handshake agreement that the city would get

1341
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:29,460
what they were looking for, this facility, the shops would get what they were looking for and they

1342
01:49:29,460 --> 01:49:35,880
happen running and they were in the escrow first and now they threw the help of the city

1343
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:42,760
when come out to the agreement that they were who, they didn't get lawyers, they didn't

1344
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:49,620
fight, they were good neighbors. They said, okay, well, during all and finding new place,

1345
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:57,780
they went to a new place and they've been working cordially with the city from day one to work

1346
01:49:57,780 --> 01:50:02,940
that never in a row of streams that they face, they think that they'd be facing this

1347
01:50:02,940 --> 01:50:05,720
today, that they couldn't build what they wanted to build.

1348
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:14,640
Another issue that has been brought up is traffic, and I have to say, I'm a number of

1349
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:21,200
same power right here, and now that's a choice that holds 1800 people, and now we have eight

1350
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:22,840
services on the weekend.

1351
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:31,600
That's over 14,000 people that are dumping out into the streets of the center of Chino-Hose every weekend.

1352
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:38,460
You can't tell me that a facility that's going to hold a hundred and ten people is going to cause trouble.

1353
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:49,360
And finally, the height on the 7-1 quarter, the very height is minimal compared to what's being constructed there.

1354
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:55,560
If they had the opportunity to build their old man to your right here, where they originally

1355
01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:02,180
would prepare to build, it would be dwarfed in size, the building and the height of the

1356
01:51:02,180 --> 01:51:05,080
cross and some Paul would dwarfed their building.

1357
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:11,420
So what I'm asking is Grant and McCode Amendment.

1358
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,360
Treat them like they treat you.

1359
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,820
Treat others like you wouldn't have them treat you.

1360
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:17,580
Thank you.

1361
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:31,540
I have a camera, let's see if I can learn how to go and let's see if I can reach all you don't have to write for your name.

1362
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:34,380
Because I've seen that I'm deck chair.

1363
01:51:34,620 --> 01:51:35,700
I'll give you some.

1364
01:51:36,380 --> 01:51:40,140
Bill Taylor, Jane Hodgeson,

1365
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:41,500
Minor Mystery,

1366
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:43,740
David Tennis,

1367
01:51:45,540 --> 01:51:46,400
Linda Tennis,

1368
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:48,760
Jennifer Isaac,

1369
01:51:49,940 --> 01:51:50,600
Art Miranda,

1370
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,200
and Frank Welchman,

1371
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,040
How are you?

1372
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:58,860
How are you sir?

1373
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:03,360
Mr. Mayor, council members?

1374
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:05,760
My name is Mr. President Dovey.

1375
01:52:05,860 --> 01:52:08,040
When I reside at 1596,

1376
01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:10,140
I found Stanley in China House.

1377
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,280
I had been a resident of China House for over 11 years.

1378
01:52:14,500 --> 01:52:17,780
We have grant, council members, all of you are aware.

1379
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:22,500
As a member of BAPS, I have been very involved with the BAPS Cultural Center

1380
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,260
and the Bender in China House since inception.

1381
01:52:26,260 --> 01:52:35,900
Back in 2004, council approved a project but asked us to reduce the overall size of the moon there as a compromise.

1382
01:52:36,660 --> 01:52:44,300
We compromised and today we are seeking their approval to allow us to complete the construction of the moon there,

1383
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:47,960
a place of worship as prescribed by the scriptures.

1384
01:52:49,180 --> 01:52:52,540
Since the last program, a project has progressed well,

1385
01:52:53,260 --> 01:52:56,240
the consciousness center of any particular museum

1386
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,900
classrooms are completed, all of whom have visited

1387
01:53:00,700 --> 01:53:04,280
and have comprehended our dedication,

1388
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,660
a commitment, a place, and a devotion.

1389
01:53:08,780 --> 01:53:10,700
Furthermore, as you are aware,

1390
01:53:10,700 --> 01:53:16,920
over the last few years we have reform that what we will be saying all along.

1391
01:53:17,260 --> 01:53:24,580
No traffic issue, no human impact, no thought on my advice, our places open to all,

1392
01:53:24,980 --> 01:53:29,960
and the centre has been a focal point for various charitable works.

1393
01:53:30,620 --> 01:53:34,780
Our city under your leadership has gone to be one of the final cities.

1394
01:53:34,780 --> 01:53:40,180
In the past few years, Council has approved several zoning changes,

1395
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:45,560
code elements to accommodate various city initiative projects,

1396
01:53:45,940 --> 01:53:50,200
including allowing 100-feet signs along the civil and corridor,

1397
01:53:50,820 --> 01:53:54,020
and some false signs right in the midst of the city.

1398
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,500
I have attended several of those meetings near the Council,

1399
01:53:59,340 --> 01:54:04,220
near the resident waste any concern about the traffic and view impact.

1400
01:54:04,220 --> 01:54:10,900
Rightfully so, because cities would turn their way on the Chinese to accommodate city projects.

1401
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:20,100
A local, or human extent, our project application, the same consideration as city initiated

1402
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,780
project by city-worthy West tonight.

1403
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:23,800
Thank you very much.

1404
01:54:25,420 --> 01:54:25,420
We

1405
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:34,420
have many here and council members, many many Benjamin Sanchez,

1406
01:54:34,420 --> 01:54:40,740
I believe in the model on the multi-listing model of the back, space 1-3, as a class of

1407
01:54:40,740 --> 01:54:47,280
the model of BAPS, I have first hand model of the situation of the ground, but I never

1408
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:51,040
saw traffic on the weekdays on the weekends.

1409
01:54:51,700 --> 01:54:56,760
The temper on the Couture Center had a crate, a safer and nice as they were to live in

1410
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,300
for me from the final week.

1411
01:54:58,300 --> 01:55:08,800
The compression on the temple, I'm sure it's not in fact my view of the city of the mountains to the south of the city.

1412
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,740
So I'm so proud to be here for you and have you support us.

1413
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:12,560
Thank you very much.

1414
01:55:18,380 --> 01:55:20,640
I'm honored by Mayor and City Council members.

1415
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:22,460
Where to start on this?

1416
01:55:22,580 --> 01:55:24,820
I mean, this is such a passionate issue for the community.

1417
01:55:26,140 --> 01:55:28,060
My name's Bill Taylor, I'm going to keep it short.

1418
01:55:28,060 --> 01:55:33,260
My colleagues have said so eloquently so many things. So well, I've lived in

1419
01:55:33,260 --> 01:55:37,540
Chino Hills for ten years off of in less-terroneous ranch, off of

1420
01:55:37,540 --> 01:55:44,780
Stokeville Canyon Road and every day I drive down the 71 and I pass by the new

1421
01:55:44,780 --> 01:55:49,720
Hindu Hindu church in our neighborhood and whether it's on my way to work or

1422
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,020
whether it's on my way to our high school key club meetings or

1423
01:55:53,020 --> 01:56:02,140
Communist meeting in the community or to my Sunday Church service at the Evangelical Church that I belong to just one exit over.

1424
01:56:02,460 --> 01:56:07,040
I see this new temple all the time, and I support it being going forward.

1425
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:17,440
I wanted to say on the merits, I mean, the other, the very, the limited information that's been compiled on this, I can't see how on the merits this is denied.

1426
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:22,840
It just would not make sense to me, and it would feel like I think it would not make sense to the community.

1427
01:56:24,620 --> 01:56:28,600
As I said, my neighbors have already said so much that I would have said so well.

1428
01:56:29,020 --> 01:56:35,700
I did want to touch on one thing that I haven't heard articulated a lot.

1429
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:46,740
But I'm concerned about the long-term star, the longer-term scar that would be created if this amendment was not approved.

1430
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:51,720
Our Hindu neighbors aren't going anywhere, they're not going to band in the church.

1431
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:59,100
And what I'm thinking about is I live in this community is how it's going to be perceived,

1432
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:03,260
not just by the residents that aren't here, because there's more residents out there

1433
01:57:03,260 --> 01:57:09,300
that are on the fence about this whole thing, about and about outsiders.

1434
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,840
And I don't want to wake up in a couple of days and see articles in the New York Times

1435
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:24,360
articles in the L.A. Times, painting our community as the perception being that it's intolerance

1436
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:31,100
that dictated this, and that we as a community hid behind what would be perceived as a

1437
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:36,320
fig leaf of a codependent. That's what I'm very fearful of, and that our kids are watching.

1438
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:45,560
Our young people are watching and every time that they will pass by this site in years to come,

1439
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:50,240
that there will be left, the community will be up with an aftertaste of hostility.

1440
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:58,500
However, however subtle that is, it will go into the long term and I think that would be the legacy of denying this amendment.

1441
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,280
So I support this. Thank you.

1442
01:58:07,630 --> 01:58:11,550
Mayor and City Council members, I appreciate the opportunity to address you this evening.

1443
01:58:11,550 --> 01:58:21,250
My name is Jennifer Isaac and I have been a resident of Chino Hills for a number of years as well as having the opportunity to work for the Chino Valley Unified School District.

1444
01:58:22,330 --> 01:58:31,010
In the interest of time and out of respect for the other people that have points that they would like to make this evening, I will keep my remarks quite short.

1445
01:58:31,010 --> 01:58:38,530
I understand that the Planning Commission voted in favor of the Development Code Amendment a

1446
01:58:39,050 --> 01:58:44,570
number of weeks ago, and I would cast my vote in favor and ask the e-support their decision as well.

1447
01:58:45,930 --> 01:58:49,190
And you're yes vote this evening in support of this amendment.

1448
01:58:57,300 --> 01:59:02,740
Good evening, City Council members and staff, my name is Linda Tannies.

1449
01:59:02,740 --> 01:59:06,440
And I'm here, of course, to support the BAP's temple.

1450
01:59:07,140 --> 01:59:09,740
Pretty much everyone said what I was going to say,

1451
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,280
but there's just a few points that I'll reiterate.

1452
01:59:13,700 --> 01:59:19,280
I'd like to say that we need to remember that 94% of the temple

1453
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,960
will be below 42 feet, which is now allowed.

1454
01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:28,800
And only the tallest there will be 78 height, 78 feet in height.

1455
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:36,700
And as further fear that other religions will come to Chino-Hills if we grant them this amendment,

1456
01:59:37,220 --> 01:59:39,480
that's not really a valid argument.

1457
01:59:40,700 --> 01:59:47,920
Right now, any religious, any religious group can buy property and build a religious facility right here right now in Chino-Hills.

1458
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,640
This amendment will not change that ruling at all.

1459
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:58,380
Another myth to dispel is that all Hindus will be coming over to Chino-Hills to visit the temple.

1460
01:59:58,380 --> 01:59:59,960
That's it!

1461
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:11,000
As we've learned temple is only one small sector of the Hindu religion, and it will not attract other worshipers because they do not practice the same set.

1462
02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:27,200
I sincerely hope that all of you will make the correct legal decision and moral decision. The BAPS, they're just a wonderful asset to our community and they should be given the same rights as any other religious groups.

1463
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,920
Thank you for your attention on this matter.

1464
02:00:35,510 --> 02:00:37,950
Good evening council members and staff.

1465
02:00:38,530 --> 02:00:43,170
I'm Dave Tennis, an active member of the community living here since 1985.

1466
02:00:44,870 --> 02:00:46,370
I'm in favor of the card amendment.

1467
02:00:47,130 --> 02:00:50,690
There are a couple of points I'd like to make that they had not been touched on.

1468
02:00:51,630 --> 02:00:54,170
The city's change in many ways since it was foreign.

1469
02:00:54,870 --> 02:00:59,550
As I elected representatives, you're responsible for keeping up with and embracing these changes.

1470
02:01:01,570 --> 02:01:09,590
These include the city rapidly becoming more ethically diverse, religiously diverse, politically, social, and economically diverse.

1471
02:01:12,610 --> 02:01:16,290
Further, the Council has continued to be a proponent of change.

1472
02:01:17,150 --> 02:01:21,750
Just look at all the code changes and amendments that we've talked about tonight that you've already approved.

1473
02:01:23,890 --> 02:01:24,450
To

1474
02:01:27,420 --> 02:01:33,080
the backspample, there are over 30 California cities that have already approved and completed

1475
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:34,920
Hindu temples in their cities.

1476
02:01:35,340 --> 02:01:39,280
Several of these temples are much grander and taller than the one being posed here

1477
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:39,860
tonight.

1478
02:01:42,210 --> 02:01:47,430
Another point I'd like to make, when you took an old the oath of office that you're serving

1479
02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:51,790
here tonight, you swore to uphold the laws of the United States.

1480
02:01:52,850 --> 02:01:58,870
I hope before you, a copy of Public Lach,

1481
02:02:00,910 --> 02:02:05,990
Lennon 6274, Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act,

1482
02:02:06,370 --> 02:02:13,670
referred to as RIUIPA, which was signed in the law on September 22, 2000.

1483
02:02:14,010 --> 02:02:20,130
The law was passed by both houses by unanimous consent in various quotes and no objections were made.

1484
02:02:20,130 --> 02:02:25,990
It gives religious plan donors a special right that challenge land use laws, but their

1485
02:02:25,990 --> 02:02:30,130
secular neighbors, which their secular neighbors do not have.

1486
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:35,950
Even if a zoning law is varied of discrimination, the court reviewing a challenge will

1487
02:02:35,950 --> 02:02:38,250
apply strict scrutiny to the city's regulation.

1488
02:02:40,370 --> 02:02:45,230
The further gets churches and other institutions a way to avoid burdensome restrictions

1489
02:02:45,230 --> 02:02:52,610
on the paper to use. So your vote tonight is in support. I'm an existing federal law, hopefully

1490
02:02:52,610 --> 02:02:58,550
you'll all approve it. I ask you all to unanimously approve this amendment. Thank you very much.

1491
02:02:59,510 --> 02:02:59,930
Thank you.

1492
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:10,080
Mayor, City Council. My name is Jean Hobson. I've lived here for 39 years. I love

1493
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:15,580
Jean Hobson. I would hate to say I came from Jean Hobson if you do not approve this. I would be

1494
02:03:15,580 --> 02:03:21,040
bears because the temple has done such beautiful things for our community for everyone

1495
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:23,060
that they come in contact with.

1496
02:03:23,380 --> 02:03:28,980
They are loving people, kind people, but else could be asked in our community, so please

1497
02:03:28,980 --> 02:03:33,000
help you get up in your hearts and pass this for Chino Hills.

1498
02:03:33,140 --> 02:03:34,060
Thank you for your time.

1499
02:03:34,420 --> 02:03:34,560
Thank you.

1500
02:03:40,530 --> 02:03:43,110
Good evening, Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.

1501
02:03:43,430 --> 02:03:47,810
My name is Neil Misree and I have been a proud resident of Chino Hills for over 15 years.

1502
02:03:47,810 --> 02:03:52,950
Three of the years I've seen tremendous growth in changing the city, from the housing

1503
02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:57,290
boom to the growth in businesses to the ever changing diversity of my neighbors.

1504
02:03:58,090 --> 02:04:01,570
I've seen a note that different today than when I first got incorporated, but I

1505
02:04:01,570 --> 02:04:06,970
hope one thing remains the same. The openness I felt when I first moved in here. The openness

1506
02:04:06,970 --> 02:04:12,390
to change the openness to growth, but most importantly the openness to accept diversity.

1507
02:04:13,110 --> 02:04:18,970
I wanted to thank all of you today to allow me to speak for a very important cause that is close to my heart.

1508
02:04:19,530 --> 02:04:23,690
Growing up in Indiana, America, my parents raised me to be the person I am today.

1509
02:04:24,210 --> 02:04:28,670
Giving me the opportunity to hold on to my heritage, culture, and religion.

1510
02:04:29,330 --> 02:04:32,110
Today, having our own children living here in Chino Hills.

1511
02:04:32,770 --> 02:04:39,870
Listen up there, traditionally when they are right here at home, we will give me the privilege to pass on to my kids the same culture

1512
02:04:39,870 --> 02:04:43,410
and heritage that has been preserved in me and my family.

1513
02:04:44,130 --> 02:04:49,530
That's surprising that the city has taken what's long to consider such a great asset to our community.

1514
02:04:50,510 --> 02:04:55,310
Now the staff and applicant did an excellent job in presenting thoroughly what the BAPS project entails.

1515
02:04:56,610 --> 02:05:01,610
And I believe we're through those presentations. It is evident that on its own merits,

1516
02:05:02,190 --> 02:05:06,990
the developmental co-ind Amendment is fair and it does protect the rights of the residents of this community.

1517
02:05:06,990 --> 02:05:13,130
I know a lot of specifics have already been discussed so I don't want to go into that, but I see no reason

1518
02:05:13,130 --> 02:05:19,150
how this code amendment will have such great impact that it will cause so much havoc in the city's development.

1519
02:05:20,070 --> 02:05:26,210
China was a great city to live in. The development code amendment before you has been recommended by the Planning Commission,

1520
02:05:27,370 --> 02:05:33,210
the city's professional and competent city staff. I want to leave you with a thought I recently heard.

1521
02:05:33,210 --> 02:05:40,110
Faith is not to have a perfect understanding, but to have faith in those things that you do not see.

1522
02:05:40,730 --> 02:05:45,250
I hope you will do what is best for our community and approve the completion of this Monday.

1523
02:05:45,690 --> 02:05:47,190
The heart of this beautiful creation.

1524
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:48,370
Thank you for your time.

1525
02:05:49,510 --> 02:05:49,670
Thank you.

1526
02:05:53,540 --> 02:05:55,540
All right, Mary, you are a hopeless group.

1527
02:05:56,420 --> 02:06:01,800
I am a 55 miles into it right now.

1528
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:05,760
So, about five months, I'll pro-task them on me.

1529
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:06,340
Here's a lesson.

1530
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:16,360
Okay, let's go with Paul Howard, a Kiel Gupta, Marissa Larson, Barry Fisher, Georgia Baker,

1531
02:06:17,700 --> 02:06:20,040
Mike Krieger, and Gary Larson.

1532
02:06:22,710 --> 02:06:23,770
Whoa, good evening, Mayor.

1533
02:06:24,090 --> 02:06:24,710
City Council member.

1534
02:06:24,710 --> 02:06:25,510
Oh, Mike, that please?

1535
02:06:26,050 --> 02:06:26,370
Yes, sir.

1536
02:06:27,370 --> 02:06:30,370
My name is Frank Rochon, I'm speaking as a resident of Fairford Ranch.

1537
02:06:30,490 --> 02:06:32,090
I'm also a basketball coach.

1538
02:06:32,090 --> 02:06:37,370
And I have a couple of my kids here to show their support, who it's not too late for, and numerous

1539
02:06:37,370 --> 02:06:43,890
amount of parents as well, who are supporting the BAPS community as well, and I'm representing them

1540
02:06:43,890 --> 02:06:44,230
also.

1541
02:06:45,490 --> 02:06:49,650
I'm a volunteer for a various organizations like National Junior Basketball, A.Y.I.S.

1542
02:06:49,950 --> 02:06:53,030
Salker, Chino Hillsboro, Softball, and the Letta B Foundation.

1543
02:06:53,970 --> 02:06:57,890
I feel it's very important to get back to the community, and this is why I'm here today.

1544
02:06:57,890 --> 02:07:01,930
That's has been a valuable member of the community for the past few years.

1545
02:07:02,330 --> 02:07:07,770
I've attended numerous open house events who have drives and I've personally seen the positive impact on the community.

1546
02:07:08,650 --> 02:07:12,630
That has opened their gym to my NJB team, offering us a safe environment to practice

1547
02:07:12,630 --> 02:07:16,690
while schools and other local organizations have cut back on the programs we've been offered.

1548
02:07:17,510 --> 02:07:20,350
All this has been offered to me, regardless of my race or religion.

1549
02:07:21,270 --> 02:07:27,110
I also want to talk about another issue, there is more of a non-issue, and some other setting when you think about it, the traffic.

1550
02:07:28,070 --> 02:07:31,670
Again, I'm a resident of the Fairfield Branch Community, and I'd live there since the

1551
02:07:31,670 --> 02:07:33,870
House's were first built over 10 years ago.

1552
02:07:34,550 --> 02:07:38,170
I was there before Big League dreams was built and before the temple was being built.

1553
02:07:38,650 --> 02:07:41,330
There were two main fillet offerings that you can access the temple from,

1554
02:07:41,470 --> 02:07:43,490
Chino-Hus Parkway and Circle Canyon Central.

1555
02:07:44,730 --> 02:07:47,790
I've traveled these roads at least two to three times a day,

1556
02:07:48,050 --> 02:07:51,590
and in the past 10 years since I've been there during construction of the temple,

1557
02:07:51,770 --> 02:07:54,530
and since there's been regular service there on a weekly basis,

1558
02:07:54,530 --> 02:07:58,430
There's been no noticeable increase of traffic going to the temple.

1559
02:07:59,070 --> 02:08:02,470
Even during their open house events, health fairs and other religious events,

1560
02:08:02,810 --> 02:08:03,890
I have noticed no traffic.

1561
02:08:04,410 --> 02:08:07,350
In fact, the only way, you know there's something going on

1562
02:08:07,350 --> 02:08:10,610
is by the flyers or other promotional efforts that the temple does.

1563
02:08:11,650 --> 02:08:13,790
And even after the traffic surveys have been completed,

1564
02:08:14,170 --> 02:08:15,910
stating that traffic will not increase,

1565
02:08:16,450 --> 02:08:17,930
there's still concern about traffic.

1566
02:08:18,710 --> 02:08:22,090
One here to tell you, I have not seen an increase of traffic due to the temple.

1567
02:08:22,650 --> 02:08:27,610
The upsetting thing about all this fuss is a traffic that I have seen, the traffic from

1568
02:08:27,610 --> 02:08:28,410
Big League Dreams.

1569
02:08:29,250 --> 02:08:32,750
And again, I was here before anything was built before Big League Dreams was built.

1570
02:08:33,190 --> 02:08:36,690
There was never much concern about traffic, not even close.

1571
02:08:37,470 --> 02:08:42,230
No one was concerned about how traffic would affect the community, but there's not a

1572
02:08:42,230 --> 02:08:43,970
period of time that goes by right on here.

1573
02:08:44,090 --> 02:08:47,890
Some type of emergency vehicle racing down Fairfield Ranch to get to Big League Dreams.

1574
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:51,410
And this is sometimes at 9-10 or even 11 o'clock at night.

1575
02:08:51,410 --> 02:08:56,470
away from you from my sleep. No one cared then. And not to mention the highest world series

1576
02:08:56,470 --> 02:09:01,170
of parades that take place a few times a year, taking me more than 30 minutes to travel

1577
02:09:01,170 --> 02:09:07,090
less than one mile from my house to Central Avenue. Again, no one cared. I understand that

1578
02:09:07,090 --> 02:09:10,830
they agree dreams of their for the community, and I will accept the consistent traffic related

1579
02:09:10,830 --> 02:09:15,750
to Bigly Dreams because of the positive effects that it has on the community. But it is unfair

1580
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:21,090
to places unwarranted, blame a traffic on baps when traffic related to Bigly Dreams is so much worse.

1581
02:09:21,410 --> 02:09:25,430
I don't understand why the two projects in such close proximity are treated so different.

1582
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:30,610
I want to wrap that up with a question that my webinar has done asked me. He said,

1583
02:09:30,930 --> 02:09:37,530
Dad, the temple looks so nice and they, the baths members are so nice to us. Why are they having trouble

1584
02:09:37,530 --> 02:09:39,750
building a temple? Thank you very much.

1585
02:09:39,890 --> 02:09:40,030
Thank you very much.

1586
02:09:40,090 --> 02:09:40,250
Thank you very much.

1587
02:09:40,250 --> 02:09:41,350
Thank you for your

1588
02:09:49,610 --> 02:09:49,610
time.

1589
02:09:52,830 --> 02:09:55,690
I'm kind of speak of the line because I'm just part of the same overall.

1590
02:09:56,610 --> 02:10:01,910
My name is Jonathan Paula, and the reason I'm here tonight,

1591
02:10:03,930 --> 02:10:06,310
I'm also part of NJB, I'm one of their travel

1592
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:10,490
approaches, and I also am the program director for their travel programs.

1593
02:10:12,010 --> 02:10:14,070
I am a private resident of China Hills.

1594
02:10:14,090 --> 02:10:17,690
I have two young children who are growing up here, 11 and 13.

1595
02:10:18,870 --> 02:10:24,790
This world for me that intersects with bats that got me in the day and supported them.

1596
02:10:24,810 --> 02:10:28,190
Honestly, you know, I started back with my Sammas in third grade.

1597
02:10:29,130 --> 02:10:31,630
I was in the stand just watching his basketball game.

1598
02:10:32,430 --> 02:10:37,570
And I somehow, between the beginning of the game and the end of the game, I hear a voice,

1599
02:10:37,930 --> 02:10:41,930
they said, you know, stop complaining or do something about it.

1600
02:10:42,410 --> 02:10:44,770
So, that's my nightmare. I turn around and look.

1601
02:10:44,770 --> 02:10:47,450
And of course, this came from my lovely wife.

1602
02:10:48,990 --> 02:10:51,910
So there, I searched myself, you know what?

1603
02:10:52,030 --> 02:10:54,690
I looked at her, I said, I will do something about it.

1604
02:10:54,890 --> 02:10:59,470
And from that point on, I decided that I was going to take my time

1605
02:10:59,470 --> 02:11:01,950
and coach the kids in Chinatows and teach them basketball.

1606
02:11:02,710 --> 02:11:04,830
The way I love the game, and I was going to make them best

1607
02:11:04,830 --> 02:11:07,510
basketball players in this whole entire valley.

1608
02:11:08,130 --> 02:11:11,090
And that has continued on for me.

1609
02:11:11,530 --> 02:11:12,910
And now is the program director.

1610
02:11:12,910 --> 02:11:20,830
I have received a program, it is a large program, one of the biggest chapters, and I am not going to

1611
02:11:20,830 --> 02:11:27,030
find, I am not going to argue, the merits of the technical things that are in front of you today, but I just wanted to tell you from a

1612
02:11:27,570 --> 02:11:35,070
young man perspective, and hopefully to help you out the collective judgment of the council that you will see that, whether it is the

1613
02:11:35,070 --> 02:11:46,430
And the years, or the 78 feet, I think from most of us as a resident, I just want to know that the things that are being built in the city are going to be safer our kids.

1614
02:11:47,090 --> 02:11:52,130
As a father and two children, so it is always the foremost thing is a father.

1615
02:11:53,870 --> 02:12:00,230
And for them, wherever we go, where it's packed is at the temple, we feel safer.

1616
02:12:00,230 --> 02:12:04,490
They are open to Burst, to us from the very beginning to years ago.

1617
02:12:05,090 --> 02:12:07,650
They opened up, they did not ask us where I am running.

1618
02:12:08,610 --> 02:12:10,010
But we needed help.

1619
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:14,950
We simply lost the practice venue that was available to us, right before our season started.

1620
02:12:15,930 --> 02:12:20,010
And somebody knew and heard about the tempo, took me over to the location that evening.

1621
02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:23,310
I spoke to Peter Batell for the first time.

1622
02:12:23,810 --> 02:12:26,450
He went to their committee right away, told them about our situation.

1623
02:12:26,930 --> 02:12:35,250
And they opened their gym, we literally pulled the plastic off of that floor and they opened it up to us about any charge of whatsoever.

1624
02:12:36,210 --> 02:12:37,450
And we are completely grateful.

1625
02:12:37,830 --> 02:12:41,690
It has been, um, it is better we practice outside of the rain.

1626
02:12:42,410 --> 02:12:46,650
So we are grateful to the BAPS number for opening up the facilities to us.

1627
02:12:47,370 --> 02:12:49,270
They have been nothing but gracious to the family.

1628
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:52,650
The parents are very happy that they will have to wrap that our safe.

1629
02:12:53,210 --> 02:12:56,110
So I just want to say that I hope you will go, yes, on this.

1630
02:12:56,110 --> 02:12:57,130
I can take it.

1631
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:07,660
We are growing in the city council.

1632
02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:09,560
I'm thankful to be here to speak.

1633
02:13:09,900 --> 02:13:11,400
You're probably growing down by now.

1634
02:13:11,460 --> 02:13:12,340
I can see it.

1635
02:13:12,380 --> 02:13:14,980
And there's a lot of people that are very passionate about this cause.

1636
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,140
So I'm going to try to really keep it pretty.

1637
02:13:17,580 --> 02:13:20,080
Basically, I have two of those amongst the nature.

1638
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:21,740
Outrenda, for for branch.

1639
02:13:22,540 --> 02:13:25,260
Originally, for for branch, I'm only a toy boat.

1640
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:29,140
So consequently, I have the opportunity to visit with people.

1641
02:13:29,340 --> 02:13:30,580
I didn't like community roar.

1642
02:13:30,580 --> 02:13:40,280
One of two communities that are most affected by the BAPS program and organization, I can tell firsthand everything that's already been said so I won't.

1643
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:49,180
I'm thrilled and I love cheering for hers and I know that it's a place that it is today because of the government that's in place now in the government that was before you.

1644
02:13:49,740 --> 02:13:54,480
I watch you guys and you guys do the heavy lifting for us, so I appreciate all the work that you guys do.

1645
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:59,280
So I just want to voice my support for the Vaps program.

1646
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:01,920
And hope that you guys continue to do the great work.

1647
02:14:01,980 --> 02:14:03,680
You guys always have. Thank you.

1648
02:14:03,820 --> 02:14:04,140
Thank you.

1649
02:14:04,900 --> 02:14:04,920
Thank you.

1650
02:14:09,050 --> 02:14:10,070
Good evening Mr. Mayor.

1651
02:14:10,150 --> 02:14:10,590
Thank you.

1652
02:14:10,850 --> 02:14:12,130
I'm Mr. Joe Chat, thank you.

1653
02:14:12,190 --> 02:14:14,250
I've been living in Chinohills for 21 years.

1654
02:14:15,010 --> 02:14:16,190
I love Chinohills.

1655
02:14:17,290 --> 02:14:18,670
I walk the park.

1656
02:14:19,570 --> 02:14:22,430
I've been looking at the way to be building the Vaps sample.

1657
02:14:22,830 --> 02:14:24,250
And I've gone to their open houses.

1658
02:14:24,510 --> 02:14:26,410
I look forward from the floor.

1659
02:14:26,410 --> 02:14:29,370
I think it's exciting that we have pink,

1660
02:14:29,530 --> 02:14:33,550
or our marble coming in and building absolutely gorgeous structure

1661
02:14:33,550 --> 02:14:36,750
that can only enhance the beauty of our community.

1662
02:14:36,970 --> 02:14:38,450
And I hope that you will vote yes.

1663
02:14:39,070 --> 02:14:39,350
Thank you.

1664
02:14:40,250 --> 02:14:40,770
Thank you.

1665
02:14:40,810 --> 02:14:41,390
Thank you.

1666
02:14:45,700 --> 02:14:46,840
Good evening, Mayor Red.

1667
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:47,560
Good evening, Mayor Red.

1668
02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:48,480
You're welcome.

1669
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:50,500
I'm here to make a surprise.

1670
02:14:52,300 --> 02:14:52,860
I'm here to make a surprise.

1671
02:14:52,860 --> 02:14:56,780
I know that a lot of people, I just wanted to stand up here

1672
02:14:56,780 --> 02:14:59,980
I think that it's important that the best.

1673
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,980
We have their opportunity to worship the way they feel like that they would like to. Each of us have that same opportunity, and this community has always been there for everybody. In fact, many times, when I was on the council, I took different ministers around and showed them pieces of property and said, you know, we welcome religious facilities, because the beauty and not only that, but the calmness that they bring to the community cannot be major in anyone.

1674
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:37,840
shape or form. And as a city council, we voted back in 2004 through the view of there with me,

1675
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:46,020
and we voted for the opportunity for them to build except for their height. Now's the time

1676
02:15:46,020 --> 02:15:50,340
to give them their height and let them worship the way they desire. Thank you.

1677
02:15:50,340 --> 02:15:51,560
Thank you Mr. Lawson.

1678
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:57,300
I wrote there.

1679
02:15:57,540 --> 02:15:58,380
I don't even have it.

1680
02:15:58,380 --> 02:16:00,500
We're so brief in the council meetings.

1681
02:16:03,580 --> 02:16:05,200
That was very special.

1682
02:16:08,860 --> 02:16:10,500
So my name is Akira Gupta.

1683
02:16:10,760 --> 02:16:13,400
I'm the former student member of the Parks and Recreation Commission for the City of

1684
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:14,860
Chinophils for the past year.

1685
02:16:15,180 --> 02:16:17,020
And I've been following this issue from the onset.

1686
02:16:17,780 --> 02:16:20,000
And a lot of people have come before me, so I'll keep,

1687
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:21,880
I've put perhaps a new perspective.

1688
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:27,740
From a use viewpoint, I believe that the BAPS Temple provides many benefits and opportunities

1689
02:16:27,740 --> 02:16:30,180
for young adults and teenagers of all backgrounds.

1690
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:35,080
The Continental Temple will add a certain cultural value to a community and expose us

1691
02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:37,040
to teens to new ideas and different backgrounds.

1692
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,380
The Temple does not necessarily serve the Hindu population.

1693
02:16:41,060 --> 02:16:42,440
It serves the human community.

1694
02:16:42,940 --> 02:16:47,220
It hosts free health-verses, as mentioned before, in education seminars in which teens such

1695
02:16:47,220 --> 02:16:53,780
myself, I've gone and will continue to go to learn about college application process and

1696
02:16:53,780 --> 02:16:58,500
the STT testing. It even provides leadership opportunities for young adults such as myself

1697
02:16:59,240 --> 02:17:01,440
through the numerous opportunities for volunteer.

1698
02:17:04,820 --> 02:17:06,760
I'd like to share with you an anecdote

1699
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:11,840
that Melan just shared with me and she told me that about 10 years ago, I don't remember

1700
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:17,980
But she told me that I used to ask other families, my friends, used to go to church on Sundays.

1701
02:17:20,060 --> 02:17:23,000
And I would ask, why don't we go to church and temple?

1702
02:17:23,340 --> 02:17:25,740
Well, she would mention that, because there isn't one nearby.

1703
02:17:26,500 --> 02:17:29,440
And I believe that addition in the granting of the development of the government,

1704
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:35,040
will grant future children, children of mine and future generations,

1705
02:17:35,620 --> 02:17:38,880
the liberty of continuous to go to this beautiful temple.

1706
02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:43,900
And having reviewed all the issues, it is appropriate for the Council to prove that the

1707
02:17:43,900 --> 02:17:47,240
development could not be meant, because the city staff has recommended approval.

1708
02:17:47,740 --> 02:17:53,280
The planning commission has recommended approval, and the community who are part of the

1709
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:58,300
recommendation approval, and there is no legal or discretionary reason to deny the development

1710
02:17:58,300 --> 02:17:58,780
code number.

1711
02:17:59,140 --> 02:18:00,380
Thank you.

1712
02:18:00,380 --> 02:18:01,680
Thank you, Mr. President.

1713
02:18:01,940 --> 02:18:03,740
Thank you, Mr. President.

1714
02:18:04,400 --> 02:18:08,500
I respond to an announcement before Barry starts talking that

1715
02:18:08,500 --> 02:18:11,800
Key of the gentleman just spoke was named youth community hero for

1716
02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:17,080
Chino Hills in 2011, and he will be honored on September 23rd of the

1717
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:17,240
I.

1718
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:29,540
He's also a little kind of judge by the University.

1719
02:18:29,840 --> 02:18:32,680
He's a credit to the state, the city, and everything that's

1720
02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:33,920
stands for in Chino Hills.

1721
02:18:34,180 --> 02:18:35,740
I hope that's not probably a few minutes.

1722
02:18:41,660 --> 02:18:49,820
The very first buildings in America were churches and meeting halls, built from the halls of the ships that brought the pilgrims over.

1723
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:53,980
I have attended weddings in some of these churches that are still standing.

1724
02:18:54,940 --> 02:19:00,620
Ten years ago there were four entities and five sites involved in this complex situation.

1725
02:19:00,620 --> 02:19:07,220
To those of you who are of set with the temple being on Fairfield Ranch Road and the 71 freeway,

1726
02:19:07,620 --> 02:19:11,500
it could have been right here in the middle of downtown China Hills, and in the middle

1727
02:19:11,500 --> 02:19:17,240
of the main case would have been very expensive and was not a guarantee as it was not a safety

1728
02:19:17,240 --> 02:19:19,800
issue but rather a location choice.

1729
02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:26,040
It was the city that helped the back style of the current location leading them to believe

1730
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:30,380
that all that they had with regard to the landscape was included in the landscape.

1731
02:19:30,620 --> 02:19:36,820
Our parties to the various swaps did what they said. It was only in the twelve-fowler that the city

1732
02:19:36,820 --> 02:19:42,220
unfortunately were named on its word handshake and commitment that brings us here today.

1733
02:19:42,940 --> 02:19:47,900
Additionally, the seventy-eight-foot height request that is a precise measurement between the highest

1734
02:19:47,900 --> 02:19:53,560
point of the building and the size of the representation of their deity inside the temple. You

1735
02:19:53,560 --> 02:19:58,780
could say that the scriptures are allowed with their architects in building the temple, according

1736
02:19:58,780 --> 02:20:04,380
to their word from God, and also is commanded by the First Amendment of the Constitution.

1737
02:20:05,360 --> 02:20:10,060
I love the two of you served honorably for the course of freedom in Vietnam, and well

1738
02:20:10,060 --> 02:20:14,340
of you has a son who served honorably for the course of freedom in Iraq, Afghanistan,

1739
02:20:14,600 --> 02:20:17,780
wars, and is still involved in fight against terrorism.

1740
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:24,520
I look at the words that you recently put on your will in God we trust, all of by those

1741
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:31,140
words every day. I hope that you do too, and that it is a city of national model, and

1742
02:20:31,140 --> 02:20:37,300
not just the slogan. I request urgent employer to accept the staff recommendations to

1743
02:20:37,300 --> 02:20:42,760
approve the DAPS Temple and build it to its sanctified requirements. You are not really

1744
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:47,360
giving them anything, but they didn't already have. Thank you.

1745
02:20:54,700 --> 02:21:02,100
My name is Miguel Sentevanas. I've been living in the city of Chinohols for the last five years and I've seen the

1746
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:09,420
Bap's temple being built and I think it's a very beautiful temple and I

1747
02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:13,900
I would hope that you would like let them build this as high as they would you know

1748
02:21:14,340 --> 02:21:18,900
As I can say everybody else has said, you know what I wanted to say so thank you so much and have a nice night

1749
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:28,760
I'm going to come off the next time and I'm not.

1750
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:29,080
Okay.

1751
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:31,260
Good evening, your grandend test members.

1752
02:21:31,540 --> 02:21:35,740
My name is Mike Craig, I'm the resident of Damon Butterfield, Lance here in the city.

1753
02:21:36,060 --> 02:21:42,100
And I just want to come up tonight to publicly various my support for the Vap's project on behalf of my staff and my family.

1754
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:43,860
Thank you.

1755
02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:44,580
Thank you.

1756
02:21:48,420 --> 02:21:53,020
Will I clear or Mr. Patel is going to be on time or something properly?

1757
02:21:53,640 --> 02:22:01,140
Yes, it appears I mean based on what we've heard so far it looks like that they're going to start basically repeating themselves in support of the project

1758
02:22:01,140 --> 02:22:08,460
What the organization is proposing and and we hope this is this is acceptable with the city is we're going to ask all of our supporters who are in support of project

1759
02:22:08,920 --> 02:22:12,940
To raise the rise and if we're willing to wave the right to speak I know there are 200 cards supporting

1760
02:22:12,940 --> 02:22:20,380
We're going to ask them to stand up and of course if everyone does stand up and we also know that if anyone does not want to wave and would like to come up

1761
02:22:20,380 --> 02:22:25,580
Then they can they can have that right as well. That's okay with the council. That's what we'd like that's what we propose

1762
02:22:25,580 --> 02:22:31,420
All right, thank you very much. So we ran through three three if you submit a speech through five

1763
02:22:31,420 --> 02:22:35,120
And you're not spoken you like a labor right should you stand?

1764
02:22:39,060 --> 02:22:40,220
So we just see who you are

1765
02:22:40,220 --> 02:22:42,140
It is in this part of the audience

1766
02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:47,660
All right, thank you

1767
02:22:48,180 --> 02:22:51,080
Is there anyone left out the 100 and

1768
02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:54,520
70 this is our personal

1769
02:22:55,340 --> 02:23:03,860
that has a brilliant desire to say something, and everybody will yell at you, all right,

1770
02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:05,600
they come to us, maybe.

1771
02:23:14,580 --> 02:23:15,660
So this is a brilliant conversation.

1772
02:23:17,020 --> 02:23:17,260
All right.

1773
02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:22,480
Good evening Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council. My name is Wendy Silva. I was a former

1774
02:23:22,480 --> 02:23:28,340
student at Chinatown High. Thank you in advance for your time.

1775
02:23:28,340 --> 02:23:35,240
Really my experience with the BAP's PS Temple has been pretty brief, but it is nonetheless

1776
02:23:35,240 --> 02:23:39,300
had a very profound impact on me and I'd like to share with you my own experience and even

1777
02:23:39,300 --> 02:23:44,080
though it may not be much, I do hope that it offers a little bit of insight into the value

1778
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:51,240
of this project. At she was high I was on the cross country team for three years and during practice

1779
02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:56,080
we'd run by the Temple at least once or twice a week and you know as we run by the Temple

1780
02:23:56,080 --> 02:24:09,600
I got to see it from the outside, but just less than two months ago, I was invited to have dinner there and that's when I was exposed to incredibly warm and inviting people who made me feel at home instantly in a place I really did not know.

1781
02:24:10,180 --> 02:24:17,720
I was introduced to a really traditional Indian food for the first time in my life, which if you haven't tried yet, I highly recommend.

1782
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:25,760
I was exposed to absolutely gorgeous architecture and to just wonderful and pure ideals

1783
02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:28,600
like family integrity, respect and unity.

1784
02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:33,160
And that's when I realized what a shame it was that I had been lying by this temple completely oblivious

1785
02:24:33,160 --> 02:24:37,640
for three years, completely oblivious to just the beauty that lay inside.

1786
02:24:37,900 --> 02:24:40,840
And that's probably the attitude that most people in Shinohol's have towards the temple.

1787
02:24:41,140 --> 02:24:44,680
They drive on the 71 and they see this building, but they really do not realize

1788
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:51,580
They really do not understand just how beautiful it is and so my greatest hope is that with the help of this project

1789
02:24:51,580 --> 02:24:59,440
BPS will reach out to others in channel health. Just as it has done so with me because really it has just so much to offer to the city and

1790
02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:01,880
No matter what I say I can never do justice. Thank you

1791
02:25:19,020 --> 02:25:24,340
I'm sorry Greg Grimm, I've lived in channels for 28 years on Ivory Court, and I just want

1792
02:25:24,340 --> 02:25:30,280
to say briefly, I can, we'll see their temple, consider temple for my backyard, I'm looking

1793
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:30,940
forward to it.

1794
02:25:31,060 --> 02:25:34,680
But the only thing that hasn't been said today is, I'm going to thank the BAP's community

1795
02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:36,000
for picking genophils.

1796
02:25:36,300 --> 02:25:37,000
Thank you very much.

1797
02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:51,580
And the cousin members, my name is Dr. Maheshvias, I've been practicing in genophils for 20

1798
02:25:51,580 --> 02:25:54,960
years, low facility, and my patients have learned me back.

1799
02:25:55,540 --> 02:26:01,060
My connection to Baths is goes back to when I was two years old and helped my gun feathers

1800
02:26:01,060 --> 02:26:03,700
finger and walked to the Baths' temples in India.

1801
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:09,500
I visited many, many temples in India and what struck me the most was the beauty of the temples.

1802
02:26:11,140 --> 02:26:12,640
Especially with the Baths' temple in India.

1803
02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:18,860
And I think the temple, the beauty it will create here will be phenomenal, put chinahirs on the map.

1804
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:22,760
Something about the beauty that it has to be in proportion.

1805
02:26:22,760 --> 02:26:29,540
And I can imagine I felt I would be 50 feet shorter or 5 miles with not the proper dome.

1806
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:34,560
Well, I feel the bus temple in Delhi is much prettier than 5 miles.

1807
02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:38,240
So, I hope you will consider the court amendment. Thank you very much.

1808
02:26:38,660 --> 02:26:39,080
Thank you.

1809
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:45,140
All right.

1810
02:26:48,170 --> 02:26:49,330
Is it a shock?

1811
02:26:50,950 --> 02:26:53,610
My name is Dr. Zayshul Yas, I'm his better half.

1812
02:26:53,610 --> 02:27:02,070
And I brought to so busy wine and I've been practicing in this city for about 20 years and I love the city very much.

1813
02:27:02,470 --> 02:27:07,070
One day I think everybody has spoken with everything which I think you need to hear.

1814
02:27:07,250 --> 02:27:09,450
However, I just want to say a couple of times.

1815
02:27:10,270 --> 02:27:15,510
So, usually, it's pretty chilly, the way they are, they are sort of fighting with everyone.

1816
02:27:15,510 --> 02:27:24,150
for the public and spiritual way, corporate life, their health, that's the community, and that's the approach we have taken.

1817
02:27:24,770 --> 02:27:29,970
If they don't welcome better approach or a partner, that's something that they are not giving back to the community.

1818
02:27:30,670 --> 02:27:36,370
So, if you really, it's not just because it's bad, it's not because it's not because it's for a religion or a partner.

1819
02:27:36,370 --> 02:27:42,290
If you have the approaches, you may roll your eyes out to the tears.

1820
02:27:43,310 --> 02:27:46,250
And if you're afraid of it, all of the cries are wild.

1821
02:27:46,810 --> 02:27:50,030
All of these bad people have to go together to do.

1822
02:27:50,310 --> 02:27:51,270
Don't support this.

1823
02:27:51,730 --> 02:27:53,410
It's not a much more of this bad thing.

1824
02:27:53,890 --> 02:27:55,850
Well, I don't know if you're not worried about something like that.

1825
02:27:56,850 --> 02:28:00,250
Of course, for the world, wherever it is, and wherever it is,

1826
02:28:00,250 --> 02:28:02,430
and wherever it is, and wherever it is, and wherever it is,

1827
02:28:02,430 --> 02:28:04,050
It's going to be a trampoline.

1828
02:28:04,590 --> 02:28:06,970
All the directors here are going to have to do it.

1829
02:28:06,990 --> 02:28:08,310
One of them are going to have to work today.

1830
02:28:08,770 --> 02:28:10,110
They're just going to have to do it.

1831
02:28:10,170 --> 02:28:11,970
It's just going to work today.

1832
02:28:12,050 --> 02:28:12,650
Thank you.

1833
02:28:12,930 --> 02:28:13,650
Thank you.

1834
02:28:17,780 --> 02:28:19,060
That's that session.

1835
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:20,620
Yeah.

1836
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,060
And we've checked with everybody outside.

1837
02:28:23,380 --> 02:28:23,600
We're good.

1838
02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:25,120
Thank you.

1839
02:28:25,220 --> 02:28:26,020
Mr. Patel?

1840
02:28:26,420 --> 02:28:26,780
Yeah.

1841
02:28:26,780 --> 02:28:27,200
Okay.

1842
02:28:27,580 --> 02:28:29,280
Now we have the speakers in opposition.

1843
02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:32,110
The first is Wilma Brian.

1844
02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:39,380
You might be outside.

1845
02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:40,140
Here's a second one.

1846
02:28:40,140 --> 02:28:41,920
Second one is Jill Alanya?

1847
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:44,080
Fair enough for my purpose.

1848
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:49,940
No, there's an opposition.

1849
02:28:53,960 --> 02:28:55,280
Okay, my name is Jill Alanya.

1850
02:28:56,320 --> 02:28:58,120
My living team was on Sunday, Medellin.

1851
02:28:59,140 --> 02:29:01,780
And first, I do want to thank the city staff,

1852
02:29:02,880 --> 02:29:05,120
our city council, Mayor Graham.

1853
02:29:05,780 --> 02:29:07,940
And in the depths, people that have worked very hard.

1854
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,760
I know that you have worked very hard on this.

1855
02:29:13,660 --> 02:29:16,040
Well, honestly, city here tonight, I am speechless.

1856
02:29:17,020 --> 02:29:26,780
And that's a bit of what I think is the problem. Back in 2004 I worked with the leadership

1857
02:29:26,780 --> 02:29:32,500
that opposed the temple. And since that time I think that's just done a very nice job

1858
02:29:32,500 --> 02:29:34,140
of making friends in the community.

1859
02:29:36,340 --> 02:29:38,940
I actually have become friends with Peter Pethel myself

1860
02:29:38,940 --> 02:29:44,720
and I have told Peter many times in the last several years that I would not try to lead any effort

1861
02:29:44,720 --> 02:29:47,040
against the backs, if they compromise,

1862
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:53,080
and I've been told that they have compromised in

1863
02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:59,380
this new plan, but I must admit that I don't see what their compromise is.

1864
02:29:59,380 --> 02:29:59,980
Let's go see the...

1865
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
Public hearing, aye, abstain, request. And when I look at the images that I had to pay 94 to get, that I still fear that many people in our community have not seen, I further represent those people that I've speaks with here tonight. I feel that we've been drowned out. And so I look at the 79 as the 4th to China has, and we've been asked to change the zone.

1866
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:36,200
and the high restrictions on 10 properties, at least three or four of which become very

1867
02:30:36,200 --> 02:30:43,380
inviting to churches and religious structures. And I don't think I've ever seen a public

1868
02:30:43,380 --> 02:30:50,640
outpouring requesting this. And that's part of my challenge with what's being asked of us tonight.

1869
02:30:52,360 --> 02:30:59,980
So my request to the council and it's a difficult request in the face of all the

1870
02:30:59,980 --> 02:31:09,560
opposition is that you give the rest of the team who is the same opportunity to understand

1871
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:16,400
what's been done here because it is permanent, once it started, one go back and I don't

1872
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:22,420
feel that that opportunity has been given. I think it's been, I didn't try to publicize

1873
02:31:22,420 --> 02:31:29,460
anything against human heroes or talk to a lot of people against this project. And I think

1874
02:31:29,460 --> 02:31:36,880
I've been a very good job of gathering community support, and I think there's just as large

1875
02:31:36,880 --> 02:31:43,180
if not a much larger value of citizens here that don't feel the same way that most people

1876
02:31:43,180 --> 02:31:44,240
in this room do tonight.

1877
02:31:44,860 --> 02:31:49,860
And that's the, those are the people that I am requesting on here we have.

1878
02:31:50,280 --> 02:31:54,880
But you, the lowest, the least chance to see it, I think that it could have been done much

1879
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:55,160
better.

1880
02:31:55,160 --> 02:31:59,420
I see, I wear the letters, I don't know when my time's up.

1881
02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:03,320
I wear the letters, I saw the three to four hundred letters in support.

1882
02:32:04,400 --> 02:32:09,060
But I don't feel that a true public outreach was made.

1883
02:32:09,220 --> 02:32:12,660
And that I hold the city council responsible for.

1884
02:32:12,740 --> 02:32:13,460
Let's my request.

1885
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:14,320
Thank you.

1886
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:15,040
Thank you, Michelle.

1887
02:32:16,460 --> 02:32:18,040
I made a new set of person.

1888
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:19,460
Will my Brian?

1889
02:32:19,460 --> 02:32:21,820
It's probably right here.

1890
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:27,580
All right, so with that, see here's how close we'll be up here for this section.

1891
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:30,140
I have been in this section phase.

1892
02:32:30,920 --> 02:32:31,600
What's with the footprint?

1893
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:34,480
Yeah, big idea.

1894
02:32:35,380 --> 02:32:35,700
All right.

1895
02:32:37,060 --> 02:32:40,920
The council will be back at 9.30.

1896
02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:42,360
All right?

1897
02:32:43,060 --> 02:32:44,840
So I'm sure you guys will be too.

1898
02:32:45,660 --> 02:32:47,200
Fine, that's pretty good.

1899
02:32:48,340 --> 02:32:51,380
onto the cell line if you would like.

1900
02:32:56,110 --> 02:32:59,930
This is within the preview of the public hearing stuff so go ahead.

1901
02:33:39,560 --> 02:33:41,000
We're happy to answer them.

1902
02:33:42,280 --> 02:33:45,520
All right, I'm sure we're all visiting writing stuff.

1903
02:33:45,980 --> 02:33:46,940
Who would like to open?

1904
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:50,800
Most of my questions have been answered.

1905
02:33:51,300 --> 02:33:53,120
I do have one or two.

1906
02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:54,640
We can get into it.

1907
02:33:54,640 --> 02:34:00,160
So I saved those questions until the APS had an opportunity to give their presentation.

1908
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:05,580
So let me ask a couple that have come up, and they've been addressed, but Miles will bring them up again.

1909
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:06,480
Mr. Patel?

1910
02:34:09,140 --> 02:34:13,740
And you and I spoke about this last week, but I was just talking about it publicly again.

1911
02:34:16,000 --> 02:34:20,740
So if a program on deers completed in a couple of years, and it's blasts were dedicated,

1912
02:34:20,740 --> 02:34:27,460
This now become a regional center as had been claimed several years ago.

1913
02:34:27,920 --> 02:34:29,480
It does not become a regional center.

1914
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:35,600
There are, as we mentioned previously, three other BAPS centers located in the Southern California area.

1915
02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:40,080
They include a San Diego Bakersfield and the Victorville area.

1916
02:34:40,260 --> 02:34:43,220
So those are three locations, just in Southern California.

1917
02:34:43,800 --> 02:34:49,720
But the other reason they doesn't become a regional facility is simply because there are other BAPS facilities located

1918
02:34:49,720 --> 02:34:55,180
Throughout what we would consider to be the Western part of the United States, there are places

1919
02:34:55,180 --> 02:34:59,300
of worship located in Milipetus, which is located near the San Jose area.

1920
02:34:59,900 --> 02:35:03,160
There is one also in the Fresno area, San Francisco.

1921
02:35:03,560 --> 02:35:08,680
As you moved up the coast, there's one in the Taipei, what's called Tiger, near the Portland

1922
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:09,620
Metropolitan Area.

1923
02:35:09,980 --> 02:35:11,460
There is one further up in Seattle.

1924
02:35:11,960 --> 02:35:16,040
If you went eastbound, then you would find one in Phoenix area and the Tucson area.

1925
02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:22,540
So there are multiple BAPS centers throughout the Western United States and those people that attend

1926
02:35:22,540 --> 02:35:25,260
that congregation were, of course, attend their local congregation.

1927
02:35:25,580 --> 02:35:27,620
So we'll not be in that sense of regional draw.

1928
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:34,680
Six, a few years ago when the big hearing took place, a lot of the opposition was focused

1929
02:35:34,680 --> 02:35:40,300
on traffic and traffic specifically revolving around festivals.

1930
02:35:41,180 --> 02:35:44,120
Have you had any festivals since your cultural centers been open?

1931
02:35:44,480 --> 02:35:45,000
We have.

1932
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:52,900
We have had our Coastal Center opened in 2009 and since then we've had three major festivals.

1933
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,700
Those are what we call three Hindu holidays.

1934
02:35:56,300 --> 02:36:02,180
We have had those three every year since we've opened and there's not been any problem in any sense.

1935
02:36:02,780 --> 02:36:05,780
Public Roads, we've talked to them, they've never had a complaint.

1936
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:08,180
The city council, I don't believe it's ever received a complaint.

1937
02:36:08,340 --> 02:36:10,020
The sheriff's department has never received a complaint.

1938
02:36:10,020 --> 02:36:15,600
But more importantly, our team closest neighbors fear field ranch and the mobile home community have never expressed a complaint.

1939
02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:17,600
So why we don't believe there will be traffic either.

1940
02:36:18,040 --> 02:36:33,140
So even one that the Mondaire is dedicated and festivals continue to take place, you don't think that will be more of a draw significant draw that might change the festival attendance that you've had in the recent past.

1941
02:36:33,140 --> 02:36:37,800
Well, and this is the reason why there will be a properly approximately, again, like we're

1942
02:36:37,800 --> 02:36:41,520
measure their 250 families, a 10 regular Sunday worship.

1943
02:36:42,140 --> 02:36:49,000
That figure on those three special Hindu holidays would, of course, draw additional members

1944
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:56,400
from the Bakersfield, San Diego, or Victorville area, depending on certain conditions.

1945
02:36:57,200 --> 02:37:01,420
The key, of course, members who manage and organize those facilities, those places of worship,

1946
02:37:01,420 --> 02:37:07,500
could not come to those Hindu holidays because they're managing the local congregation there.

1947
02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:12,700
But in the event that a person decides of, you know, it's a very special, it's a very auspicious holiday.

1948
02:37:13,100 --> 02:37:16,780
We're going to decide to make the hour drive north or an hour and a half drive north.

1949
02:37:17,320 --> 02:37:20,780
In that sense, sure, there could be some members of the faith that come up.

1950
02:37:20,840 --> 02:37:24,020
Significant enough to cause traffic or cause a problem, absolutely not.

1951
02:37:24,580 --> 02:37:31,820
The footprint of the Mondale was reduced, I believe, 6800 feet square feet, that is correct.

1952
02:37:32,260 --> 02:37:33,980
Could you make it any smaller than that?

1953
02:37:34,220 --> 02:37:36,980
We could not reduce it any more than that.

1954
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:38,680
And how much did it bring down the height?

1955
02:37:39,100 --> 02:37:46,120
About down the height, essentially, when you do the full calculation, the stone structure was reduced from 73 feet to 56 feet.

1956
02:37:46,620 --> 02:37:51,250
And that decrease was possible despite an increase in the foundation of 6.5 feet.

1957
02:37:51,250 --> 02:37:55,630
Okay, thank you. That's all I have for now it. Thank you.

1958
02:37:57,110 --> 02:37:59,650
You mentioned all those locations.

1959
02:38:02,090 --> 02:38:04,490
Do they all have a dedicated temple?

1960
02:38:05,770 --> 02:38:07,690
I don't think any of them do do they?

1961
02:38:08,250 --> 02:38:10,990
What do you mean by the three other places of worship and so on?

1962
02:38:11,030 --> 02:38:14,230
They don't have a mandrel like what you're proposing here.

1963
02:38:14,570 --> 02:38:17,330
No, they would not have a traditional authentic mandrel, they would not.

1964
02:38:20,810 --> 02:38:26,550
The closest one for the, the, the restaurant reaches that we refer to.

1965
02:38:26,750 --> 02:38:29,770
No, well, obviously need for the, the rest course.

1966
02:38:29,930 --> 02:38:34,770
Well, for any actually location, there would, there's, there's third local places of worship.

1967
02:38:35,090 --> 02:38:39,530
So, of course, people in the, for example, will take Seattle.

1968
02:38:40,110 --> 02:38:43,530
The BPS congregation, the Seattle area would practice at their local facility.

1969
02:38:43,530 --> 02:38:52,810
for them to be able to come out to, let's say, even Houston or junior girls or anything like that, and the Houston facility will simply be in practical.

1970
02:38:53,150 --> 02:38:55,490
It's not possible to even fly down.

1971
02:38:55,670 --> 02:38:59,910
You know, when you think about it, six or eight or ten hours for three hour celebration,

1972
02:39:00,530 --> 02:39:03,690
when you can do that at your own place of worship, so that's what they would do.

1973
02:39:05,570 --> 02:39:05,830
All right.

1974
02:39:06,170 --> 02:39:09,230
I do want to share with all of you in my council, especially.

1975
02:39:09,230 --> 02:39:19,990
I talked to the mayors of the Eastern, the Stapard Tests, and also in Atlanta, no, not the

1976
02:39:19,990 --> 02:39:26,930
Atlanta, but so they which is in Lybon, Georgia, this weekend, they said that since those

1977
02:39:26,930 --> 02:39:32,630
temples have been open, there has been no traffic issue even on festival days.

1978
02:39:34,030 --> 02:39:47,830
I was surprised because I was from the Wookie, but they seemed to look different, what you are saying is that only on special holidays in the year, in which flow and the flow is still below their threshold.

1979
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:55,870
So for me, at the first time, there was a very, very concern about increased traffic, even with the day-to-day temple.

1980
02:39:56,990 --> 02:39:59,210
I don't think there's any proof that I ain't more.

1981
02:39:59,590 --> 02:40:10,610
Studies on Charlotte, the on-site visual field of those, the most, most of the students don't see that also.

1982
02:40:11,390 --> 02:40:14,910
I'm trying to hold on the nerve from the Shufawa side.

1983
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:21,350
Trunner at the speak to a staff member, and they basically said the same thing to him.

1984
02:40:21,350 --> 02:40:25,750
So, for me, that beer is a leavey-in.

1985
02:40:27,030 --> 02:40:27,310
Thank you.

1986
02:40:27,430 --> 02:40:27,710
All right.

1987
02:40:28,690 --> 02:40:32,430
One additional question now, when the boss wanted this here to dedicate the temple

1988
02:40:32,430 --> 02:40:37,950
before it's as it was being constructed, the laying of the first stone, and that would probably be one of the most significant things.

1989
02:40:38,090 --> 02:40:42,470
Wouldn't you think because your leader, international leader, was here?

1990
02:40:43,810 --> 02:40:48,830
I was there at that particular ceremony, and I did not experience any of the traffic issues as well.

1991
02:40:48,830 --> 02:41:00,730
And if you're not going to traffic issues with a major event like that, then I can't see where any festival is going to create any significant traffic issue.

1992
02:41:03,070 --> 02:41:06,570
Okay, well, I did a similar thing that Mayor Graham did.

1993
02:41:06,950 --> 02:41:11,170
I called the two facilities in Texas and also in Chicago, Chicago's my home.

1994
02:41:11,370 --> 02:41:12,890
So I had to see how that was going.

1995
02:41:13,150 --> 02:41:18,410
But anyway, to make a long story short, the question I had asked was,

1996
02:41:18,650 --> 02:41:19,990
do you have the health fairs?

1997
02:41:20,110 --> 02:41:21,510
Do you have the educational fairs?

1998
02:41:21,690 --> 02:41:23,250
Is that an ongoing program?

1999
02:41:23,670 --> 02:41:27,050
And both of those facilities have been established for some years now,

2000
02:41:27,050 --> 02:41:34,710
said yes they do and I came back and I asked representatives of the BAPS temple here, do you plan

2001
02:41:34,710 --> 02:41:41,130
on extending all of these events that you have been having and I got a resounding yes, so

2002
02:41:41,130 --> 02:41:48,570
absolutely it's what you see is what you get is what I tend to get and I think I've got the

2003
02:41:48,570 --> 02:41:50,450
kind of input.

2004
02:41:52,070 --> 02:42:02,910
Now, the elephant in the room for name is his whole routine about honor and commitment

2005
02:42:02,910 --> 02:42:12,570
on the citizen to what happened years ago, specifically that there was a deal basically that

2006
02:42:13,770 --> 02:42:20,850
The APS left aside that city hall ended up on, maybe, if may I interrupt you for just

2007
02:42:20,850 --> 02:42:21,050
where?

2008
02:42:21,910 --> 02:42:26,690
On behalf of the organization, we are not here to discuss that that set of events that may

2009
02:42:26,690 --> 02:42:29,790
or may not have occurred in 2004 or prior to that.

2010
02:42:30,110 --> 02:42:34,950
We want to focus on what happened in 2004 at that hearing with the code amendment and what's

2011
02:42:34,950 --> 02:42:36,810
going on now with this code amendment here.

2012
02:42:37,550 --> 02:42:41,470
That process is an organization in for this purpose is water under the bridge.

2013
02:42:41,470 --> 02:42:43,330
So I appreciate that.

2014
02:42:43,410 --> 02:42:49,270
The only problem is you have many, many speakers who want to talk about that particular thing.

2015
02:42:49,930 --> 02:42:59,250
And what does, it pays us a little bit of a corner that, well, yeah, we are FFO upright on this people,

2016
02:42:59,510 --> 02:43:00,690
and want to do the right thing.

2017
02:43:01,930 --> 02:43:06,970
When I first heard that a few years ago, I went to our attorney,

2018
02:43:06,970 --> 02:43:12,430
I think it was in the room, all those closed sessions and discussions, having talked

2019
02:43:12,430 --> 02:43:20,170
in what about it, and Mike was involved, so gentlemen, was there some type of the of that

2020
02:43:20,170 --> 02:43:24,670
BAKS left aside and he would direct them to a site that we would approve or anything like

2021
02:43:25,190 --> 02:43:25,650
that?

2022
02:43:26,530 --> 02:43:32,290
Well, I was around, I guess if you want to say between seven and ten years ago, I was

2023
02:43:32,290 --> 02:43:44,530
city attorney during that time period when this project was processed and approved and my

2024
02:43:44,530 --> 02:43:52,250
recollection was that the city was in negotiations with Eleanor Vaskas, I believe was the

2025
02:43:53,770 --> 02:44:03,550
Prior to the time that the temple started to negotiate also with Miss Faskas and the city

2026
02:44:04,670 --> 02:44:10,350
ultimately purchased that property which is part of this entire site, I am not aware

2027
02:44:10,350 --> 02:44:16,090
of nor was I part of any discussions that there was going to be some trade for land use entitlements

2028
02:44:16,090 --> 02:44:22,390
for guaranteed that there would be my auntie's entitlement provided to BAPS for any other

2029
02:44:22,390 --> 02:44:31,010
site that might be chosen. During meetings I've heard that accusation made during meetings

2030
02:44:31,010 --> 02:44:37,610
that have been held with BAPS and I've asked the question specifically because my reaction

2031
02:44:37,610 --> 02:44:43,390
was similar to yours may or that it made it sound like we weren't being moral and upright

2032
02:44:43,390 --> 02:44:48,690
and so I asked the question, I said, well, who made this deal? And to this day I've never

2033
02:44:48,690 --> 02:44:55,290
received a response as to who allegedly was involved in this deal. Three of the council members

2034
02:44:55,290 --> 02:44:59,970
that voted on the original project are sitting here today. I've never heard anything.

2035
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,960
Any one of you talk about such a deal. I have met with the former city manager, Doug LaValle, never engaged any sort of deal or that nature. So my response is I'm a rare no deal, and I would also tell you that it would have been illegal on a number of grounds to have made such a deal, because any such a decision has to be made during a public process that's publicly noticed in front of the public as far as a land use decision.

2036
02:45:31,520 --> 02:45:38,500
And BAPS was represented by extremely legal, competent, or extremely competent legal

2037
02:45:38,500 --> 02:45:43,360
countable during that first hearing and they know all of the rules and they know that

2038
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:47,040
there could not have been a deal struck that such as have been arrived.

2039
02:45:48,040 --> 02:45:49,080
That's my response.

2040
02:45:51,060 --> 02:45:52,680
Can I address that also?

2041
02:45:53,080 --> 02:45:57,660
I wasn't on a council at the time I was on a planning commission and that night I was sitting

2042
02:45:57,660 --> 02:46:02,600
out in the audience, and the commitment that I remember of the council was that they would

2043
02:46:02,600 --> 02:46:07,680
help you look for a site that might be applicable for you within the area, within

2044
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:09,020
Cheenow Hills, within Cheenow.

2045
02:46:09,620 --> 02:46:15,420
And that was followed up on that, how this other site was looked at, because it was a possible,

2046
02:46:16,540 --> 02:46:17,900
sorry, for some of the others.

2047
02:46:18,280 --> 02:46:23,480
Yeah, the community of all the director of that time, Jeff Kahlyer, has said that.

2048
02:46:23,480 --> 02:46:28,740
that there was never any commitment to know, but they were happy to provide a leadership at

2049
02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:35,320
that time with the potential sites where they could locate much like we have many

2050
02:46:35,320 --> 02:46:41,280
major workers that come to our cameras that want to develop something, residential or

2051
02:46:41,800 --> 02:46:47,820
commercial, they are getting a list of sites of potential things that you'll look at.

2052
02:46:47,820 --> 02:46:56,200
So that's basically what I know and what research I've done, and I know I might be

2053
02:46:56,200 --> 02:46:57,620
going to comment on anything.

2054
02:47:00,460 --> 02:47:08,120
Well, at that time, I was a lowly director, but in the needs of Mark Reference's, we

2055
02:47:08,120 --> 02:47:15,760
have heard that allegation, and to the extent we can, we have researched it and tried to confirm

2056
02:47:15,760 --> 02:47:25,840
confirm it, not necessarily denied it, and again, ask for how that came about, frankly,

2057
02:47:26,200 --> 02:47:28,940
and we're not able to have peace that together this time.

2058
02:47:29,360 --> 02:47:36,760
We have moved forward through this project in the same vein that the BPS has.

2059
02:47:37,580 --> 02:47:43,000
In O4 there was a hearing, there was a ruling in a decision, there's been a process that we've gone through

2060
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:46,880
for several years, that's brought us here this evening, and that's what Steph has been

2061
02:47:46,880 --> 02:47:47,640
focusing on.

2062
02:47:48,560 --> 02:47:53,240
And that's my Mr. Patel and Beatrice, but that's why I bring it up, because I also

2063
02:47:53,240 --> 02:47:54,820
am very, very process-oriented.

2064
02:47:55,880 --> 02:48:03,300
So it's a process with skewed, then I like some back-to-other and stuff that I've never heard

2065
02:48:03,300 --> 02:48:03,820
of it.

2066
02:48:04,160 --> 02:48:12,460
Then you can admit that on councils or in the cities that are to do underhand agreement or

2067
02:48:12,460 --> 02:48:17,440
a link, a type of a green that we will build here and you will build over there.

2068
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:20,360
So I just would like to put all that to us.

2069
02:48:20,980 --> 02:48:22,580
And some of you have that up there, please.

2070
02:48:23,020 --> 02:48:24,440
But let us know.

2071
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:29,080
So I appreciate Mr. Patel, your comment here about,

2072
02:48:29,080 --> 02:48:31,100
you know, we're here on this particular thing.

2073
02:48:31,940 --> 02:48:32,400
All right.

2074
02:48:34,940 --> 02:48:36,180
I should be speaking now.

2075
02:48:36,700 --> 02:48:37,000
I should be speaking now.

2076
02:48:37,000 --> 02:48:39,960
I should be speaking now.

2077
02:48:40,040 --> 02:48:42,340
I should be speaking now.

2078
02:48:42,340 --> 02:48:48,960
been very patient here. And let me just say again to remind a lot of you because I heard a lot

2079
02:48:48,960 --> 02:48:55,720
of comments about traffic. The only issue before us is quite simple. It's a development code

2080
02:48:55,720 --> 02:49:01,360
amendment number one. So please know that. Number two, I'd also like to bring you back when

2081
02:49:01,360 --> 02:49:06,560
this was originally brought before council because it needs some clarification on all of the issues

2082
02:49:06,560 --> 02:49:12,300
that were brought before us again. They were segregated by each particular action. I was the

2083
02:49:12,300 --> 02:49:19,960
that voted no. Because at that time, certainly in one person brought that up, it's not about

2084
02:49:19,960 --> 02:49:27,240
intolerance. There is a religious, land use, protection act absolutely, and I felt that

2085
02:49:27,240 --> 02:49:34,100
I'd bikercating the spires from those issues that were significantly land-use-oriented. That

2086
02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:40,020
could have potentially been a violation of that, which is why I want all of them into a

2087
02:49:40,020 --> 02:49:45,740
vote for every single aspect of it. I want to explain those to you what those were.

2088
02:49:45,960 --> 02:49:51,420
At the time, what came before us were several conflicting issues on the size and scope of

2089
02:49:51,420 --> 02:49:57,020
the project on several different occasions from the initial time that they came to the city

2090
02:49:57,020 --> 02:50:02,580
to talk about it until the time that it came before us in a public hearing. And like Ed said,

2091
02:50:02,940 --> 02:50:08,920
if there was such a handshake, I would like to know that's very unsettling to me and if any of you

2092
02:50:08,920 --> 02:50:13,740
out there that know me well, that if I asked for me to speak with you about this or anything

2093
02:50:13,740 --> 02:50:18,380
else that's coming before us, I will simply say I cannot talk to you about that because

2094
02:50:18,380 --> 02:50:25,100
it's important for me to let the public know that I have my decision is not made prior to

2095
02:50:25,100 --> 02:50:29,160
any single council meeting that I've ever had. I think it's important for the public to

2096
02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:34,540
be involved that they hear an unbiased view. And again, like Ed said, if any of you have specific

2097
02:50:34,540 --> 02:50:38,740
information about that I certainly would like to know that because that's not what I worked

2098
02:50:38,740 --> 02:50:44,720
so very hard with somebody of you to create this community and it's spent like Ed and others that

2099
02:50:44,720 --> 02:50:48,660
have been around here that are in the audience. You know, nearly 20 years in the city council,

2100
02:50:48,880 --> 02:50:54,360
we want to know that that never occurred. I just want to explain to you now a little bit about my

2101
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:58,820
no votes and what they were based upon. What of McGinney said was traffic because at the time

2102
02:50:58,820 --> 02:51:03,640
there was some conflicting issues about that. I didn't believe some of the studies that were done

2103
02:51:03,640 --> 02:51:09,840
was comprehensive as they could be at the time, and I asked staff to do more detailed report on it.

2104
02:51:10,200 --> 02:51:15,000
The second one, those of you that are familiar with a very serious issue that's before

2105
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:20,640
of municipalities and counties in the state of California, is the regional housing needs assessment.

2106
02:51:21,420 --> 02:51:25,980
It's commonly referred to as rena. That particular site is zoned multifamily.

2107
02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:31,740
If we do not comply with those mandates by the state of California, we can be significantly

2108
02:51:31,740 --> 02:51:44,540
And going back to the initial time when this came before us in a public hearing, we did not have the capacity nor the knowledge at that time if we could actually comply with that.

2109
02:51:44,860 --> 02:51:50,460
So that was another issue by changing the zoning of it, by changing that and losing those multi-family units.

2110
02:51:51,140 --> 02:51:59,240
I did not feel that staff adequately allowed us to opportunity to find out where those units would be placed to comply with those statement days.

2111
02:51:59,900 --> 02:52:04,800
The third issue, and I think there were two of us at the time, Ed, it was the Williamson Act,

2112
02:52:04,920 --> 02:52:09,320
which you have to look at as a relates to open space and agricultural zone areas.

2113
02:52:09,780 --> 02:52:14,200
And I didn't feel that the findings were made in that, and I think, also Ed, if I'm not, if I'm incorrect,

2114
02:52:14,360 --> 02:52:18,040
let me know, that U.S. avoided no one on that particular aspect.

2115
02:52:18,320 --> 02:52:20,940
So that was the other one at the time as well too.

2116
02:52:21,480 --> 02:52:27,300
And, you know, all of those combined, again, it had nothing to do with the religion.

2117
02:52:27,300 --> 02:52:32,420
It didn't matter who it was, which is why I felt that the spires and the height should be

2118
02:52:32,420 --> 02:52:35,920
bifurcated, because I thought that there could be a potential violation of that.

2119
02:52:35,920 --> 02:52:44,360
By interpreting that, as a, though that might be perceived as a violation of a religious

2120
02:52:44,360 --> 02:52:44,980
right act.

2121
02:52:45,080 --> 02:52:46,600
So please know that that's the case.

2122
02:52:47,120 --> 02:52:54,120
Now in that background, I think that's important to state at the time, is that what

2123
02:52:54,120 --> 02:52:59,680
But many of you have said, I think we've all realized and we all appreciate the kindness

2124
02:52:59,680 --> 02:53:04,760
support, the community, outpouring that all of you involved in BAPs and all of you that

2125
02:53:04,760 --> 02:53:06,420
support them have done over the years.

2126
02:53:06,540 --> 02:53:11,780
You guys have just done a tremendous job bringing our community together and I thank you

2127
02:53:11,780 --> 02:53:12,540
for that.

2128
02:53:12,920 --> 02:53:19,580
But what is important for all of us to look at and to understand is that our decision truly

2129
02:53:19,580 --> 02:53:24,100
is simple in the fact that it's about land use and it's about planning and it's about

2130
02:53:24,100 --> 02:53:29,360
something very specific on paper. All of that has bearing on it and it has great

2131
02:53:29,360 --> 02:53:33,580
emotional value and I appreciate that. But the way that I look at things is

2132
02:53:33,580 --> 02:53:38,440
just based upon specific facts that we have to look at today. But over the years

2133
02:53:38,440 --> 02:53:43,720
as this project is gone forward, they built wonderful facilities, there's one aspect

2134
02:53:43,720 --> 02:53:48,600
of it that is left and what we ask them to do is come to a compromise and what they

2135
02:53:48,600 --> 02:53:51,760
spoken to us before is that they have come to a compromise.

2136
02:53:52,760 --> 02:53:57,340
There are very detailed oriented aspects of very

2137
02:53:57,340 --> 02:54:00,520
religion that have to have spatial, height, width,

2138
02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:03,340
whatever it might be that are involved in their project

2139
02:54:03,340 --> 02:54:05,960
and for their worship, and I appreciate that.

2140
02:54:06,020 --> 02:54:10,000
And I think that they've done a very good job of looking at the issues

2141
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:11,840
that were brought before them before.

2142
02:54:12,360 --> 02:54:14,520
And I appreciate them from moving forward on that.

2143
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:16,680
They've been very patient in doing so.

2144
02:54:16,680 --> 02:54:20,000
And I think this should not become an issue of emotions.

2145
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:24,860
It should become one of a specific clarity of a development code of amendment.

2146
02:54:25,020 --> 02:54:30,980
And as many of you have stated, the landscape of Chino Hills has changed over the years since their initial application.

2147
02:54:31,620 --> 02:54:33,360
There has been commercial buildings that have been built.

2148
02:54:33,580 --> 02:54:39,760
There has been pylon signs that have been created to create commerce and to create jobs for our community here,

2149
02:54:39,760 --> 02:54:41,320
which we were so very job poor.

2150
02:54:41,660 --> 02:54:45,740
And we had no redevelopment agency, we had no real money in our general funds.

2151
02:54:46,320 --> 02:54:48,420
We've made room for them, paid the way.

2152
02:54:48,900 --> 02:54:50,900
By looking at that, that's also changed the way

2153
02:54:50,900 --> 02:54:54,000
as we look at code amendments, and we look at the heights of things.

2154
02:54:54,560 --> 02:54:57,920
I think that, you know, what Joanna articulated and what Henry

2155
02:54:57,920 --> 02:55:00,640
articulated, and also the BAPS community, has as well.

2156
02:55:01,100 --> 02:55:03,680
We looked at three, I think, different aspects on how you can come

2157
02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:07,940
to some sort of conclusion, to move forward and bring something

2158
02:55:07,940 --> 02:55:11,080
to the community that you had envisioned, and you had been

2159
02:55:11,080 --> 02:55:13,500
worshiping four, four years, and to complete

2160
02:55:13,500 --> 02:55:16,020
all these years of what you've been doing.

2161
02:55:16,660 --> 02:55:20,720
In my opinion, after all of the stuff that I've gone through and again, someone mentioned

2162
02:55:20,720 --> 02:55:25,140
all the letters, here's the stack of letters for this time, and yes, like Ed said, we've

2163
02:55:25,140 --> 02:55:26,480
gone through all of them.

2164
02:55:26,840 --> 02:55:30,480
And so, you know, I'm sorry that you believed that the city didn't do a good job of communication

2165
02:55:30,480 --> 02:55:30,940
outreach.

2166
02:55:30,940 --> 02:55:35,260
I think that's a good aspect of it, and I think we've done the best we can as council members

2167
02:55:35,260 --> 02:55:40,760
if we weren't listed on the emails specifically, I did my best to respond to you back

2168
02:55:40,760 --> 02:55:45,020
If I could on that one, and I'm sorry that you feel bad because I think we've been very

2169
02:55:45,020 --> 02:55:51,480
open about it, and I think just as a final comment, and I'll say it now, where I

2170
02:55:51,480 --> 02:55:56,280
was at that point, I believe I voted the right way, and I apologize, profusely, to anybody

2171
02:55:56,280 --> 02:56:00,340
that believed it was for any other reasons, it's just the way that I am, it's the way

2172
02:56:00,340 --> 02:56:01,900
that I operate, it's the way I roll.

2173
02:56:02,360 --> 02:56:06,140
I looked at every single aspect, I read every single page, and every single report.

2174
02:56:06,460 --> 02:56:09,840
I come from the development background, and I thought that was appropriate.

2175
02:56:09,840 --> 02:56:13,280
All this before we now is something that's very, very simple.

2176
02:56:13,520 --> 02:56:15,020
It's a development code amendment.

2177
02:56:15,540 --> 02:56:20,440
I think I've heard enough staff reports and enough comments from staff that I feel comfortable

2178
02:56:20,440 --> 02:56:24,420
that this is the right way for us now to move forward with the development.

2179
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:39,050
I have a question of staff, a question of numbers I don't care, it's both easy.

2180
02:56:39,310 --> 02:56:39,770
No more questions.

2181
02:56:39,850 --> 02:56:41,730
I have one.

2182
02:56:42,350 --> 02:56:44,710
I should have one, the one.

2183
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:53,110
I'll be brief, I'll be brief, I'll be brief, and I talk for 20 minutes.

2184
02:56:54,350 --> 02:57:04,390
Um, it really is kind of surprising how, um, some of you spoke with that, you know, we

2185
02:57:04,390 --> 02:57:08,350
have churches, well, a lot of churches have been there, and yeah, the idea, you know, we

2186
02:57:08,350 --> 02:57:10,270
should embrace the whole diversity.

2187
02:57:11,950 --> 02:57:18,130
Um, I challenge you to find a need to be our science that has a Buddhist, Hindu, Korean,

2188
02:57:18,130 --> 02:57:24,050
But even Joe, LDS, what else am I missing?

2189
02:57:24,590 --> 02:57:25,010
Just a little.

2190
02:57:25,030 --> 02:57:25,810
Okay, I'm out.

2191
02:57:27,870 --> 02:57:29,330
All these different types of things.

2192
02:57:29,530 --> 02:57:30,650
I mean, we have tons.

2193
02:57:32,310 --> 02:57:36,190
For those of you, I mean, my mind turns off, I hear those types of discussions.

2194
02:57:36,410 --> 02:57:39,790
Because that's not actually out there in the real world.

2195
02:57:44,080 --> 02:57:45,040
Let's see.

2196
02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:47,040
I don't know.

2197
02:57:49,280 --> 02:57:54,660
Why have I speak to talk about the value of the law and how we have to follow it?

2198
02:57:54,920 --> 02:57:55,560
What does that mean?

2199
02:57:58,720 --> 02:58:00,780
How does that mean?

2200
02:58:00,780 --> 02:58:02,180
Let me phrase a question.

2201
02:58:02,940 --> 02:58:06,480
Does this whole amendment affect it all by the value of the law?

2202
02:58:07,960 --> 02:58:16,980
Well, the question would be, under Relupe, whether or not if this council doesn't approve it,

2203
02:58:16,980 --> 02:58:24,420
whether it would impose a substantial burden on the exercise of the religion.

2204
02:58:25,500 --> 02:58:28,660
That's the first question that gets raised.

2205
02:58:29,700 --> 02:58:35,100
There are not a lot of cases so far on the looper.

2206
02:58:35,760 --> 02:58:41,250
The cases that have found violations of cases where cities,

2207
02:58:43,290 --> 02:58:49,330
agencies have what appear from the description of cases played games with religious institutions

2208
02:58:49,330 --> 02:58:56,710
and turned down an application on one side for one reason and they actually had a famous

2209
02:58:56,710 --> 02:59:01,410
case where they turned down because they said it was too close to the urban part of town

2210
02:59:01,410 --> 02:59:06,050
and they put it outside more in the agricultural areas that well it's not consistent with

2211
02:59:06,050 --> 02:59:06,570
that area.

2212
02:59:06,570 --> 02:59:15,570
The court and trooper that is playing games with the religious institution, here the institution exists,

2213
02:59:17,330 --> 02:59:31,250
and the operating, the question is just the height, and I don't believe so long as the council doesn't turn it down based upon the faith of the religion,

2214
02:59:31,870 --> 02:59:36,670
that it would be a real loop of violation, because I don't think that you're substantially

2215
02:59:36,670 --> 02:59:39,050
keeping that from practicing their faith.

2216
02:59:39,610 --> 02:59:43,210
I think I could disagree with that interpretation, but I don't think based on the cases

2217
02:59:43,210 --> 02:59:48,910
I've read today that it would be a real loop of violation, unless the council was motivated

2218
02:59:50,730 --> 02:59:56,930
by to try to vote against it because of their faith, that it would be the other violations

2219
02:59:56,930 --> 02:59:57,570
also.

2220
02:59:58,910 --> 02:59:59,970
Yeah, I think that...

2221
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:20,600
The membership has done incredibly good job of getting out into the community and changing all that fear seven years ago into something that we've seen here today, which is very, very low opposition.

2222
03:00:23,480 --> 03:00:30,420
Some of them have a negative word up here, I just want to ask for much pressure over here of個人.

2223
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:40,740
It bothers me that they were allowed to build the base of their temple up to this height of 42 feet,

2224
03:00:42,580 --> 03:00:51,100
Because it depends us in chief high of a horror where, you know, are we paying that

2225
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:52,260
so as a whole of the teacher?

2226
03:00:52,860 --> 03:01:01,320
Because if a developer came in and wanted something that was shown that we didn't want

2227
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:12,980
him and he builds up to and does something that may be permissible to try to force our

2228
03:01:12,980 --> 03:01:22,340
hand a little bit to hone the last idea of this, I don't have a viable project. How is

2229
03:01:22,340 --> 03:01:25,180
this not setting the table for the same type of thing?

2230
03:01:25,180 --> 03:01:34,800
Well, let me first say that this is a very initial project and as going pointed out that original approval process was a little bit piecemeal.

2231
03:01:35,140 --> 03:01:42,800
What staff was left with was a CPA approval, a site plan approval that allowed everything except for the height.

2232
03:01:43,200 --> 03:01:48,800
Now, I also believe in this happen when I was not involved with the project and I was not a member of staff.

2233
03:01:48,800 --> 03:01:52,520
that before the applicant was issued building permits,

2234
03:01:52,840 --> 03:01:57,640
they came in with a plan that showed modified towers

2235
03:01:58,480 --> 03:02:01,040
and a little of architectural features

2236
03:02:01,040 --> 03:02:03,380
that kept to the points you feed.

2237
03:02:03,860 --> 03:02:07,500
So that is what the building permits were based on.

2238
03:02:08,160 --> 03:02:11,860
So that would go far if this was not approved.

2239
03:02:12,100 --> 03:02:13,480
So they didn't have a planning place,

2240
03:02:13,580 --> 03:02:16,320
that's valid, that was approved by staff at the time,

2241
03:02:16,480 --> 03:02:17,500
and that they're building toward.

2242
03:02:19,420 --> 03:02:29,640
So to replace that is what they've built is what they proposed and that they have a

2243
03:02:29,640 --> 03:02:34,040
completed structure if they did not get the dome and the height.

2244
03:02:34,720 --> 03:02:35,120
Mayor Grant?

2245
03:02:35,520 --> 03:02:40,660
Right, because Mayor Grant might make that at the time when they were seeking the permits to

2246
03:02:40,660 --> 03:02:46,620
start the construction that was my specific direction that there had to be the

2247
03:02:46,620 --> 03:02:55,180
ability for a finished product, not just a line at 42 feet, and staff will satisfy that

2248
03:02:55,180 --> 03:02:58,320
they brought that forward, and the firmments are subsequently issued.

2249
03:02:59,820 --> 03:02:59,980
All right.

2250
03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:06,000
And, by then, for me, advice you can jump in, or my friend.

2251
03:03:06,260 --> 03:03:07,360
All right, land first.

2252
03:03:10,040 --> 03:03:17,760
What's so close do we have then after passing this moment of each other nine sites?

2253
03:03:18,180 --> 03:03:25,160
Not looking over into a you speak up what?

2254
03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:29,380
I'm sorry.

2255
03:03:30,480 --> 03:03:31,580
Tell me the headmark?

2256
03:03:31,760 --> 03:03:33,620
I'm sorry the news is already permitted.

2257
03:03:33,620 --> 03:03:53,000
On the nine sites, question is, would the passage of this curve, which would allow the height on those sites to be increased, is that something the council would be concerned about and not favor?

2258
03:03:53,000 --> 03:04:02,520
And the use is conditionally permitted on all those sites, and unless, because of the

2259
03:04:02,520 --> 03:04:03,740
Lula,

2260
03:04:06,820 --> 03:04:16,000
unless there was significant impact from the project traffic, where some other

2261
03:04:16,000 --> 03:04:22,980
significant impact probably would be difficult to deny a religious use on those properties.

2262
03:04:22,980 --> 03:04:28,680
these, again, buying some significant impact that couldn't be mitigated, but this issue

2263
03:04:28,680 --> 03:04:34,900
is really over the height and the extension of the ability to go from the current heights

2264
03:04:34,900 --> 03:04:38,280
on those properties up to 80 feet.

2265
03:04:43,500 --> 03:04:43,960
Anything else going?

2266
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:49,480
Well, in addition to that, any of those projects that they were to be proposed for the latest

2267
03:04:49,480 --> 03:04:55,100
facility, they would be subject to the same site plan review, CUP process at this project

2268
03:04:55,100 --> 03:05:01,580
went through the first time, and if I wanted to have the height, they would again have to

2269
03:05:01,580 --> 03:05:05,120
demonstrate that it is compatible with the adjacent uses and structures.

2270
03:05:06,680 --> 03:05:14,880
One in the Davis analysis, we did sort of hypothetically, would it be compatible, but

2271
03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:20,020
with the real project coming forward, we would be looking at that in a reality, does this

2272
03:05:20,020 --> 03:05:24,960
or work on the site and is compatible with adjacent uses.

2273
03:05:25,340 --> 03:05:26,920
So staff are both with the whole analysis

2274
03:05:26,920 --> 03:05:30,060
and make a recommendation if it's appropriate

2275
03:05:30,060 --> 03:05:32,580
if they could make the findings or not make the findings.

2276
03:05:33,240 --> 03:05:35,260
So there would be reasonable guarantee

2277
03:05:35,260 --> 03:05:37,940
from the staff standpoint that we could make the findings

2278
03:05:37,940 --> 03:05:39,480
that it would be a suitable use.

2279
03:05:39,800 --> 03:05:41,400
And that's how we look at it.

2280
03:05:43,040 --> 03:05:44,320
Hey, we're questions?

2281
03:05:45,880 --> 03:05:46,760
Follow us.

2282
03:05:47,100 --> 03:05:47,280
Comments?

2283
03:05:47,580 --> 03:05:48,620
Go ahead.

2284
03:05:49,240 --> 03:05:52,560
I think the future, I think art was going to make some comment.

2285
03:05:52,940 --> 03:05:56,920
Well, but I'll, you know, I'm not sure much shorter than you are.

2286
03:05:57,040 --> 03:05:57,460
You think so.

2287
03:05:58,660 --> 03:06:01,080
You were like 14 pages up here this evening.

2288
03:06:03,080 --> 03:06:06,320
I want to thank staff for an excellent presentation first of all.

2289
03:06:06,420 --> 03:06:14,780
They did an outstanding job and on a subject that was long overdue for a rediscution tonight.

2290
03:06:14,780 --> 03:06:24,700
Thank you also for a very organized and intelligent discussion this evening from our community members, so thank you all, you did a great job.

2291
03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:30,160
I have to say that the lack of public negative criticism is deafening.

2292
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:37,880
I thought there would be more outcry compared to what took place six years ago and it hasn't taken place.

2293
03:06:37,880 --> 03:06:44,320
has nothing to do with the summertime hearing, it's just I think that the efforts by the

2294
03:06:44,320 --> 03:06:52,780
BAPS community to reduce any anxiety that may have existed six years, seven years ago has

2295
03:06:52,780 --> 03:06:56,400
been very effective in the outreach that they've made to our community.

2296
03:06:57,840 --> 03:07:03,920
Over the years, my biggest concern when knowing what's going to come to us was, how is

2297
03:07:03,920 --> 03:07:05,280
going to affect the rest of the community.

2298
03:07:05,520 --> 03:07:07,140
And I express that to the BAPS.

2299
03:07:07,320 --> 03:07:11,300
I express that to our staff sometime back that, OK,

2300
03:07:11,740 --> 03:07:14,080
what if we approved this height variance,

2301
03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,520
or whatever you want to call it?

2302
03:07:15,740 --> 03:07:16,620
Is there anybody else in town

2303
03:07:16,620 --> 03:07:18,700
I'm going to be coming to us saying, well, you did it for them.

2304
03:07:18,700 --> 03:07:20,280
You need to do it for us.

2305
03:07:20,620 --> 03:07:23,700
Well, I want to thank staff in the BAPS for coming up

2306
03:07:23,700 --> 03:07:26,600
with a development code proposal

2307
03:07:27,300 --> 03:07:30,680
that alleviates my fear of what could have happened

2308
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:31,540
down the road.

2309
03:07:33,320 --> 03:07:37,920
So after all this examination, it's obvious that the overall impacts to our city are negligible

2310
03:07:37,920 --> 03:07:43,340
to me and to me the development code approval tonight is a non-issue.

2311
03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:46,020
That's all I have for now.

2312
03:07:46,320 --> 03:07:46,540
Thank you.

2313
03:07:52,950 --> 03:07:53,150
There.

2314
03:07:55,420 --> 03:07:57,380
I have a long history on this.

2315
03:07:57,520 --> 03:08:03,500
I was actually on the planning commission back in 2004 when this project came to us and similar

2316
03:08:03,500 --> 03:08:10,900
So the hearings that went on back in July of this year, staff came forward with findings

2317
03:08:10,900 --> 03:08:16,920
of fact that was going to approve or call for the approval of the development of the entire

2318
03:08:16,920 --> 03:08:19,100
site, including the height at the time.

2319
03:08:19,320 --> 03:08:23,760
I was one of the four people that actually voted in favor of the project.

2320
03:08:25,440 --> 03:08:32,060
There's a million reasons why morally and ethically and with integrity that I think that

2321
03:08:32,060 --> 03:08:38,460
is something that should happen, because of the pursuit of each person's religious preference.

2322
03:08:39,540 --> 03:08:43,940
This is not something that I have to necessarily totally embrace their faith, but I do

2323
03:08:43,940 --> 03:08:48,620
have to as a Christian, recognize their ability to practice their faith in the way that

2324
03:08:48,620 --> 03:08:54,800
they choose to do so, and that the way that their Scriptures go ahead and profess that they

2325
03:08:54,800 --> 03:08:56,040
must produce.

2326
03:08:56,280 --> 03:08:59,940
And that means we have to do everything proportionate when it comes to the building of the temple.

2327
03:09:00,980 --> 03:09:07,060
I was happy, I went to hear your explanation tonight about what happened in 2004 because I

2328
03:09:07,060 --> 03:09:12,020
will tell you at the time I was puzzled. I really was. And knowing the type of person

2329
03:09:12,020 --> 03:09:16,720
you are taking this through and analyzing it to the end of the degree, I can see now and

2330
03:09:16,720 --> 03:09:22,560
I can better appreciate what you did at that point in time. I didn't actually agree with you

2331
03:09:22,560 --> 03:09:27,220
at the point in time, but that's, you know, it is water under the bridge. There's a lot

2332
03:09:27,220 --> 03:09:36,060
said about why this should be approved. One comment that when made Joe, you know, I know that

2333
03:09:36,060 --> 03:09:42,420
you were very much involved on the original. We had 16 hundred different responses back at that

2334
03:09:42,420 --> 03:09:48,160
time and we were about equal, about half and half for and against the project. I think that

2335
03:09:48,160 --> 03:09:55,440
the fears that we're going on, you know, some overzealous publication and early proposed development

2336
03:09:55,440 --> 03:09:59,460
of the temple, likening it to other large attractions,

2337
03:10:00,700 --> 03:10:03,500
brought a lot of fears with it pertaining to the traffic.

2338
03:10:03,960 --> 03:10:06,260
The traffic issue has just not materialized.

2339
03:10:06,560 --> 03:10:10,040
And each one of us have seen that in commented about that.

2340
03:10:10,900 --> 03:10:12,980
So traffic is a non-issue.

2341
03:10:13,760 --> 03:10:17,740
Even having said that, we are seven years down the line.

2342
03:10:17,740 --> 03:10:28,180
BPA, BAPS has been very, very patient with the city and continuing to work on getting

2343
03:10:28,180 --> 03:10:34,320
a workable solution to allow them to complete their temple in a manner that the city

2344
03:10:34,320 --> 03:10:41,040
is not settled with bad law and bad guidelines that are going to grossly affect our city.

2345
03:10:41,040 --> 03:10:48,500
Well, 185 sites, potential sites that were potentially could be impacted by the earlier version

2346
03:10:48,500 --> 03:10:50,220
of this, now we're down to 10.

2347
03:10:50,480 --> 03:10:56,960
And the likelihood of those 10 actually got coming forward with the church meeting over

2348
03:10:56,960 --> 03:10:57,680
the criteria.

2349
03:10:59,580 --> 03:11:04,840
This application, this development code, amendment and that is pretty much going to apply to

2350
03:11:04,840 --> 03:11:05,340
this site.

2351
03:11:05,380 --> 03:11:10,560
I doubt very much that there will be any other lines set up of people wanting to come

2352
03:11:10,560 --> 03:11:14,880
do it. And if they do decide to come forward, they're going to have to go through the same process

2353
03:11:14,880 --> 03:11:21,660
as BAPS has to get them to this point where they have a proposed approval of the project.

2354
03:11:23,080 --> 03:11:29,460
So, you know, this little walk down memory lane is just to say that we have investigated this.

2355
03:11:29,500 --> 03:11:33,720
I sat through the planning commission meeting three weeks ago for all three hours

2356
03:11:33,720 --> 03:11:38,380
because I wanted to hear all of the testimony. I wanted to be sure that people were there

2357
03:11:38,380 --> 03:11:43,700
that night that maybe couldn't be here tonight like it here the comments and come up with

2358
03:11:43,700 --> 03:11:51,660
a more well-rounded and well-informed opinion of this before seeing the project come to

2359
03:11:51,660 --> 03:11:52,480
us tonight.

2360
03:11:54,560 --> 03:12:00,680
It is, you know, we could sit here and talk for hours about all of the wonderful things this

2361
03:12:00,680 --> 03:12:02,540
organization does in our community.

2362
03:12:02,540 --> 03:12:08,760
We should all be so thankful here in the city of Chino Hills, as someone said, that they chose

2363
03:12:09,520 --> 03:12:11,700
Chino Hills to place their temple.

2364
03:12:12,640 --> 03:12:18,400
We have benefited so far, and we'll continue to do that into the, you know, the future.

2365
03:12:19,700 --> 03:12:24,740
If you've been out to the temple and you learn how it's being constructed with stainless steel rebar

2366
03:12:24,740 --> 03:12:29,740
and the base isolators and all those things, the temple is being built for a thousand years.

2367
03:12:29,740 --> 03:12:31,480
Now, we're else than United States,

2368
03:12:31,660 --> 03:12:34,600
that we ever built anything that's built for a thousand years.

2369
03:12:35,300 --> 03:12:37,960
You know, I should take an example on medicine.

2370
03:12:43,830 --> 03:12:47,830
We go from beautiful towers to, yeah, okay.

2371
03:12:48,390 --> 03:12:51,290
Anyway, I could talk a lot in the middle, you know,

2372
03:12:51,370 --> 03:12:54,590
get the king out and the hook out and yank me off the stage.

2373
03:12:55,050 --> 03:12:59,470
But bottom line is I have not had any issues with this.

2374
03:12:59,470 --> 03:13:01,750
What has been presented again, we're looking at one thing.

2375
03:13:01,830 --> 03:13:02,710
We're looking at the height.

2376
03:13:02,710 --> 03:13:08,630
We have a staff report that's recommended by the Planning Commission.

2377
03:13:09,030 --> 03:13:11,630
I think that all of the proper due diligence has been done.

2378
03:13:12,110 --> 03:13:16,910
All of the proper research has been given to the City Council for our consideration.

2379
03:13:17,890 --> 03:13:24,650
And I have absolutely no issue with the development code of amendment.

2380
03:13:24,770 --> 03:13:26,390
And I believe that we should do it.

2381
03:13:26,630 --> 03:13:31,090
And I would be hopeful that we can call for unanimous support of this.

2382
03:13:33,460 --> 03:13:34,440
Thank you.

2383
03:13:36,550 --> 03:13:39,410
If I have comments, boil or boil.

2384
03:13:41,070 --> 03:13:42,010
Don't cook long enough.

2385
03:13:42,330 --> 03:13:43,390
I can be the evil eye.

2386
03:13:43,510 --> 03:13:45,010
I can see it.

2387
03:13:45,010 --> 03:13:47,910
No, this is so much better than last time.

2388
03:13:52,410 --> 03:13:55,930
I think my colleagues have all stated it.

2389
03:13:56,270 --> 03:14:02,210
I have part time on this issue for a couple of things.

2390
03:14:02,210 --> 03:14:05,670
That's not obligated to the high-fisher also.

2391
03:14:06,790 --> 03:14:12,550
Number one is no doubt that the APS does an awesome job of PR.

2392
03:14:12,950 --> 03:14:16,030
We should highlight the leadership to do like a city.

2393
03:14:18,870 --> 03:14:23,830
Because I think it has flipped over the perception of many of our residents.

2394
03:14:25,210 --> 03:14:31,050
I think they tried to get a major outreach to people, and they don't know where to reach back.

2395
03:14:31,390 --> 03:14:32,170
You know, that's not your fault.

2396
03:14:33,790 --> 03:14:40,770
I do have a major concern about traffic, and after researching those other sites, I don't know what I'm going to miss you.

2397
03:14:42,810 --> 03:14:59,710
So I guess for me, it's an after-fall issue of building something and you know, I get the feeling you know you're going to get it if you just build up to a certain spot.

2398
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:12,500
Stop. That part of life. For me, that shows a character that is not typical of where I would expect of your organization.

2399
03:15:12,940 --> 03:15:16,280
Although, politically, I should see why I would do that to a problem.

2400
03:15:19,200 --> 03:15:21,280
So, that's my hard work.

2401
03:15:21,340 --> 03:15:23,460
I think after a local admin,

2402
03:15:25,800 --> 03:15:29,100
I think it's probably appropriate.

2403
03:15:30,860 --> 03:15:33,360
You know, pre-limiting, but not two or nothing.

2404
03:15:34,780 --> 03:15:37,300
It does give us some preview on the future.

2405
03:15:39,540 --> 03:15:46,200
I chose the MC tonight, probably no one knows anything else, even after times and

2406
03:15:46,200 --> 03:15:53,380
only looking for many days, so right now more or more, but no, yes, then no, so with that,

2407
03:15:55,320 --> 03:16:02,260
I'll show you two except and develop my code, and you were looking for motion, yeah, you

2408
03:16:02,260 --> 03:16:02,780
got it.

2409
03:16:02,980 --> 03:16:03,900
Motion to approve.

2410
03:16:03,900 --> 03:16:06,920
I was in Florida.

2411
03:16:07,320 --> 03:16:07,880
I was in Florida.

2412
03:16:07,880 --> 03:16:08,200
I was.

2413
03:16:35,300 --> 03:16:37,220
If you need to leave, I would.

2414
03:16:38,800 --> 03:16:40,640
I would say that I'd rather go.

2415
03:16:41,160 --> 03:16:43,920
Just to fight with you, it's really the wrap up and keep going.

2416
03:16:50,290 --> 03:16:51,650
I'm in France right now.

2417
03:16:51,950 --> 03:16:54,170
It's going through.

2418
03:16:55,390 --> 03:16:58,030
We're going to go to the Shins and we'll still go to the Shins.

2419
03:16:58,370 --> 03:17:00,350
All of our time on that in the process.

2420
03:17:02,790 --> 03:17:05,190
And you know, I'm going to do that.

2421
03:17:06,450 --> 03:17:07,770
You think you know what that side is?

2422
03:17:07,970 --> 03:17:09,090
There are also if you like.

2423
03:17:10,130 --> 03:17:11,410
All of us are in no way.

2424
03:17:18,610 --> 03:17:19,790
Maybe hold me in the minute.

2425
03:17:20,110 --> 03:17:20,710
I hope so.

2426
03:17:21,050 --> 03:17:21,410
Why are you going?

2427
03:17:29,560 --> 03:17:30,320
I'm in the problem.

2428
03:17:30,920 --> 03:17:33,500
I'm just trying to talk to you.

2429
03:17:34,000 --> 03:17:34,420
I can't talk to you.

2430
03:17:34,760 --> 03:17:35,460
I still can't.

2431
03:17:35,720 --> 03:17:37,280
I still move out there.

2432
03:17:37,360 --> 03:17:38,040
No, you can't.

2433
03:17:38,040 --> 03:17:39,220
You know, I call 10-30.

2434
03:17:39,600 --> 03:17:40,020
I call them.

2435
03:17:40,160 --> 03:17:41,540
I always call, like, how long is it going to go?

2436
03:17:41,840 --> 03:17:42,580
I'm with him.

2437
03:17:42,660 --> 03:17:43,420
But we didn't bet this time.

2438
03:17:43,420 --> 03:17:51,780
All right, so besides the issues of global negotiations, that's most of our time, so.

2439
03:17:52,460 --> 03:17:54,020
Sam then, fearcrum?

2440
03:17:56,580 --> 03:18:05,000
Sam then, very interesting that Executive Director has resigned, is that the last week.

2441
03:18:05,000 --> 03:18:15,440
And so we are now in the higher and in the director of the staff type here, and we're going to do a search.

2442
03:18:15,900 --> 03:18:20,300
So that will be coming across very well soon.

2443
03:18:20,480 --> 03:18:21,220
All right. That's it.

2444
03:18:21,400 --> 03:18:23,360
And external search as well. Yes.

2445
03:18:23,380 --> 03:18:23,880
Correct. Thank you.

2446
03:18:23,940 --> 03:18:24,460
Yes.

2447
03:18:24,680 --> 03:18:25,200
Okay.

2448
03:18:25,900 --> 03:18:27,500
To your value in the higher district.

2449
03:18:27,560 --> 03:18:28,520
Vice Mayor Bennett.

2450
03:18:29,160 --> 03:18:29,400
Yes.

2451
03:18:29,520 --> 03:18:32,000
And the interest at the time, I'll make this short last week.

2452
03:18:33,140 --> 03:18:39,180
Mayor Graham and Council Member Peter Rogers and I all attended a joint meeting of the

2453
03:18:39,180 --> 03:18:42,620
Chino Valley Independent Fire District along with the City of Chino.

2454
03:18:45,700 --> 03:18:51,840
Chief Summers went through along with his staff and walked through the annual report

2455
03:18:51,840 --> 03:18:55,760
of the Fire District. A lot of great things are going on.

2456
03:18:56,180 --> 03:18:58,300
We can talk more in detail about it later.

2457
03:18:58,300 --> 03:19:03,420
Actually we're meeting again tomorrow night, but they're in good shape, physically.

2458
03:19:04,580 --> 03:19:10,400
They are maintaining a couple major programs, they're looking at fuel reduction through

2459
03:19:10,400 --> 03:19:17,700
covering Canyon, other weed abatement to help make our residents properly safer by having

2460
03:19:17,700 --> 03:19:23,860
the fuel cleaned out from around those, went through the whole process of the engine replacement

2461
03:19:23,860 --> 03:19:30,440
equipment replacement and also status of a couple of new stations that are coming online as well as

2462
03:19:30,440 --> 03:19:37,380
their new state-of-the-art training center and the possibility that they may be actually inviting

2463
03:19:37,380 --> 03:19:44,020
other fire departments and that to come train there and possibly make some revenue on the side

2464
03:19:44,020 --> 03:19:49,700
to help with the cost of the district by providing training facilities for other fire districts.

2465
03:19:49,700 --> 03:19:53,080
So that's basically it.

2466
03:19:53,180 --> 03:19:54,880
Do you know, based in these author authority,

2467
03:19:55,080 --> 03:19:56,000
Council Member Kurver?

2468
03:19:56,800 --> 03:19:59,380
Yes, there was a very good meeting.

2469
03:19:59,940 --> 03:20:02,320
One of the things we did we awarded a contract

2470
03:20:02,320 --> 03:20:05,320
for VALs, for the Disalter 2 replacement.

2471
03:20:06,340 --> 03:20:08,760
And the price of those VALs, as I recall,

2472
03:20:09,860 --> 03:20:13,640
was about 30% of the original goods that came in.

2473
03:20:13,800 --> 03:20:15,220
And they were rejected twice.

2474
03:20:15,400 --> 03:20:19,600
So this time we got it at the price that the various agencies

2475
03:20:19,600 --> 03:20:27,580
agencies wanted to pay for them. Also, we had for the phase 3 expansion project, we approved

2476
03:20:27,580 --> 03:20:37,880
professional services agreements with Western MWD, moved over to the CDA. We led some

2477
03:20:37,880 --> 03:20:44,400
of the other people that were going from Ontario to go back and on the expansion project

2478
03:20:44,400 --> 03:20:50,340
services agreement when Hamner Avenue product water pipeline design to pick up some of the

2479
03:20:50,340 --> 03:20:57,240
task on that and finally professional services, a government for a program management support

2480
03:20:57,240 --> 03:21:05,000
services to again going take over so they are claiming control of the CDA hiring employees,

2481
03:21:06,500 --> 03:21:15,160
they have the besides a general manager on board, they have the executive assistant hired,

2482
03:21:15,160 --> 03:21:23,500
have the operations manager hired and they were both beyond line by August 22nd and that

2483
03:21:23,500 --> 03:21:28,240
was basically that it was a good meeting that the CDA is moving forward, making their plans

2484
03:21:28,240 --> 03:21:34,160
work and taking over that agency with the new General Manager and staff, they've moved

2485
03:21:34,160 --> 03:21:39,480
in a new facility, furniture, fit of facility and so it's moving right along.

2486
03:21:40,560 --> 03:21:41,100
That's it.

2487
03:21:41,100 --> 03:21:42,340
Council comments.

2488
03:21:43,220 --> 03:21:45,480
Peter, I'll make a quick.

2489
03:21:45,740 --> 03:21:51,120
I wanted to congratulate the Recreation staff for a great first publication of the

2490
03:21:51,120 --> 03:21:52,100
redesigned brochure.

2491
03:21:52,820 --> 03:21:55,060
Recreation brochure, the quarterly brochure.

2492
03:21:55,840 --> 03:21:59,840
What's great, we have some advertising in there, and there's talk of there's

2493
03:21:59,840 --> 03:22:02,060
descriptions of how to become an advertiser.

2494
03:22:02,700 --> 03:22:04,360
Great effort, great reproduction quality.

2495
03:22:04,740 --> 03:22:09,020
We saved the city a lot of money with this publication, which is still full

2496
03:22:09,020 --> 03:22:14,300
We say the great deal of money compared to what we used to pay.

2497
03:22:15,000 --> 03:22:20,480
I also want to make note of one of the items in here, which is the Chino Hill's

2498
03:22:20,480 --> 03:22:28,200
community foundation sponsoring another event to raise money for our different programs that were involved with,

2499
03:22:28,460 --> 03:22:33,500
including scholarship, scholarship programs, and the community center contributions will make.

2500
03:22:33,500 --> 03:22:41,820
And that's on October 15, check out in your recreation brochure page 13 and give you all the details of this upcoming event.

2501
03:22:42,020 --> 03:22:45,420
We're hoping to have 5, 550 people at this event.

2502
03:22:45,480 --> 03:22:56,220
First time we've done it, we're looking for unique one-of-a-kind projects versus let's say golf tournament, which are great, but there's so many of them out there right now.

2503
03:22:56,220 --> 03:23:02,440
We're trying to find unique things to call our own and maybe have in the pipeline for a long time

2504
03:23:02,440 --> 03:23:05,180
and this is one of them that Chinohil's wine walk at the shops.

2505
03:23:05,720 --> 03:23:08,580
So everybody check it out in their new great brochure.

2506
03:23:08,700 --> 03:23:12,180
Thank you to staff for an excellent design Jonathan, that's all I have.

2507
03:23:12,720 --> 03:23:13,220
Thank you.

2508
03:23:14,040 --> 03:23:16,880
How much did we make our advertising jobs are up here on you?

2509
03:23:19,500 --> 03:23:24,600
With the three ads that are in there, we were actually just to give you perspective.

2510
03:23:24,980 --> 03:23:27,600
We were able to pay for our wine complete brochure.

2511
03:23:28,180 --> 03:23:34,120
And, of course, there will be several more ads that are already confirmed for the next brochure.

2512
03:23:34,700 --> 03:23:39,500
So, the ultimate goal would be to pay for all four brochures, so one of the out-and-three to go.

2513
03:23:39,740 --> 03:23:41,160
All right, my life is the life.

2514
03:23:41,980 --> 03:23:43,280
Well, don't worry.

2515
03:23:43,480 --> 03:23:46,910
Well, just two quick things.

2516
03:23:47,530 --> 03:23:52,370
Steve, the timing of the signal when people are turning left onto a bulldog from Peyton,

2517
03:23:52,630 --> 03:23:54,010
this happened once before a couple years ago.

2518
03:23:54,190 --> 03:23:58,890
I noticed when traffic's coming in the other direction, even if one car is in that left turn,

2519
03:23:58,890 --> 03:24:00,470
And turn link to turn in there.

2520
03:24:00,670 --> 03:24:01,530
It triggers it automatically.

2521
03:24:02,290 --> 03:24:04,150
So the other morning it was kind of like PKM hour.

2522
03:24:04,210 --> 03:24:07,030
It was way back up all the way towards the Eucalyptus

2523
03:24:07,030 --> 03:24:07,970
for this one car.

2524
03:24:08,670 --> 03:24:10,450
So one car is in the left hand turn link.

2525
03:24:10,590 --> 03:24:11,830
And triggers it.

2526
03:24:11,910 --> 03:24:12,850
Maybe you can look at it.

2527
03:24:13,290 --> 03:24:15,030
Yeah, we're working with our traffic people

2528
03:24:15,030 --> 03:24:16,670
on a couple signals right here.

2529
03:24:16,710 --> 03:24:18,230
OK, so that's one of them then.

2530
03:24:18,510 --> 03:24:20,550
And then John did we have a fix the trail?

2531
03:24:20,750 --> 03:24:22,390
Because I noticed it didn't seem like it was fixed

2532
03:24:22,390 --> 03:24:23,810
last week and I was down there.

2533
03:24:23,830 --> 03:24:26,370
The fancy and along Eucalyptus, the trail there.

2534
03:24:26,630 --> 03:24:28,850
There was a bunch of broken rails in there.

2535
03:24:28,850 --> 03:24:32,530
see them replaced. It's my understanding that I have moved place that can certainly

2536
03:24:32,530 --> 03:24:35,770
verify that. Just check it. It was about a week and a half ago when I was back down there.

2537
03:24:35,770 --> 03:24:39,010
I believe it's been corrected. We had some sections of that that

2538
03:24:39,010 --> 03:24:40,910
fencing on order I believe it.

2539
03:24:41,650 --> 03:24:41,870
Thanks.

2540
03:24:46,110 --> 03:24:46,990
All right.

2541
03:24:46,990 --> 03:24:54,490
For myself, John and Captain Renew, I think I'm asking you an email to him. On the

2542
03:24:54,490 --> 03:25:00,970
Everyone in Pine Avenue, I've noticed that there are a large parking on the overpass.

2543
03:25:02,950 --> 03:25:09,150
There are parking at the Delta area, at the end of Pine Avenue.

2544
03:25:09,910 --> 03:25:15,090
I thought maybe there were a counter-office workers, but I saw yesterday about eight people

2545
03:25:15,090 --> 03:25:21,250
piled into the dump truck, and they brought all the vehicles up there.

2546
03:25:21,250 --> 03:25:25,680
And now there's graffiti on our stop and jump and all right, so thank you

2547
03:25:27,710 --> 03:25:30,530
I do a thing to captain and

2548
03:25:32,370 --> 03:25:36,640
Jonathan was staffed on my way up. That was a lot of fun

2549
03:25:37,890 --> 03:25:40,230
That's a thank you for the class and members of our participant

2550
03:25:40,890 --> 03:25:43,750
Also, I think the study number who's at

2551
03:25:43,750 --> 03:25:46,540
What would I say then? So you open up your homes and

2552
03:25:46,540 --> 03:25:50,140
It's been some clash meeting people, so I was very cool.

2553
03:25:50,360 --> 03:26:03,200
So thank you very much for going up, and my final comment has the electrical towers

2554
03:26:03,200 --> 03:26:09,740
are going up, there's more consideration for my residents.

2555
03:26:10,760 --> 03:26:11,520
Correct, Mr. Flager?

2556
03:26:11,520 --> 03:26:19,820
Oh absolutely. And so we'll wait for a pile of rope, the heart system which we go on and

2557
03:26:19,820 --> 03:26:25,160
go and we have to remove the timber. What I would like to do is, should we have some

2558
03:26:25,160 --> 03:26:33,540
destruction on the staff level about holding a community meeting. Obviously coming here,

2559
03:26:33,720 --> 03:26:40,280
this room will not be big enough. But like we do at the church, we'll be talking about this

2560
03:26:40,280 --> 03:26:45,280
This is where we were, this is where we're at now, and this is what truly happened in the future.

2561
03:26:45,480 --> 03:26:46,480
Happily at that moment,

2562
03:26:48,620 --> 03:26:53,100
you know, people don't get concerned, you know, to all of a sudden the towers actually show up.

2563
03:26:53,380 --> 03:26:55,360
And if you actually see 200 feet, that's your home.

2564
03:26:56,340 --> 03:26:59,680
So I think we need to deal with the portion process once again.

2565
03:27:00,180 --> 03:27:02,080
And then also to hold our role.

2566
03:27:02,440 --> 03:27:06,060
What should, what should our role as a city being?

2567
03:27:06,620 --> 03:27:14,240
What should I do as I like the fifth is probably me and I'm going to go over that battle with that and see if he's

2568
03:27:15,180 --> 03:27:18,960
We'll do that and that would be similar to what we've done in the past

2569
03:27:18,960 --> 03:27:23,280
When we got kind of towards the end of the PC hearings right and staff

2570
03:27:24,680 --> 03:27:33,260
is working to organize a meeting while the meeting specifically with I would describe it as kind of their leadership of this new movement

2571
03:27:33,260 --> 03:27:39,220
Um, to discuss just that some of the things that they move forward in a certain vein, what staff can do in that regard.

2572
03:27:40,120 --> 03:27:46,280
And I think it would be beneficial for, like, to be a struggle, more or five of us should be there.

2573
03:27:46,740 --> 03:27:48,720
Uh, you're talking to a large public.

2574
03:27:48,880 --> 03:27:50,440
Yeah, I'll just have with me, right?

2575
03:27:50,660 --> 03:27:51,060
Yes, sir.

2576
03:27:51,180 --> 03:27:59,420
Now, Mark, since Peter and Robert are the Bologna, but they allowed to attend a meeting like this, and so they're upfront, right?

2577
03:27:59,420 --> 03:28:10,720
Then that is slated from it, there's no, they could attend the meeting as residents, they couldn't participate as council members.

2578
03:28:12,040 --> 03:28:27,500
I haven't said that, and it's been a while since I read the, I believe we received two different letters from the FPPC, which did not give a definitive answer,

2579
03:28:27,500 --> 03:28:35,980
but my read of those letters were that in last there was proof that it wouldn't have a

2580
03:28:35,980 --> 03:28:45,380
financial impact on councilor Rogers and councilor Harry's properties that had a conflict

2581
03:28:45,380 --> 03:28:51,760
of interest and it was a matter then of getting battling opinions potentially from a

2582
03:28:51,760 --> 03:28:59,460
users and those type of things and it was very complicated and so it sounds like they

2583
03:28:59,460 --> 03:29:07,040
should not participate but they didn't mean to them. Yes, that's it. That's a very much

2584
03:29:07,040 --> 03:29:14,940
journey in all of our soldiers both here and by now and women. That's it, let's see you in a couple

2585
03:29:14,940 --> 03:29:15,240
weeks.