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[0:00] I'm very welcome to the Tribal House of the Council of Meeting, above us the height. Thank you for being here, and I would like to be meeting our meeting and roll call please.
[0:09] Mayor Graham, Vice Mayor Bennett, Council Member Kruger, Council Member Norton Perry, President, Council Member Roger.
[0:17] Thank you.
[0:18] Pleasure to meet you tonight, it is led by a U.S. Marine forefrow, the Emecras,
[0:26] who recently discharged, and we are talking about him in a couple minutes.
[0:31] Forefrow, if you need some footage.
[0:37] First right hand over your heart.
[0:40] I pledge allegiance to Black of the United States of America,
[0:44] to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, and it is a role with liberty and justice
[0:51] All right,
[0:55] thank you for all. I got everybody up for a phone. I appreciate that.
[1:01] I'm out for a close session in life.
[1:06] Yes, Mayor and Council just wanted to briefly announce that there's been no opinion issued yet by the quote of appeal in the to hatch be matter.
[1:19] It was anticipated that one would be out, it could be within the next few days, but it could be another month.
[1:26] And as soon as it is, the opinions made available by the Court of Appeal, we will post it on the city's website and send out electronic alerts as through the city to so that people will get noticed of it as soon as possible.
[1:44] Thank you.
[1:45] All right, so I see any questions or more, can I?
[1:49] All right.
[1:51] All right.
[1:51] First up on our agenda this evening.
[1:53] Our proclamations and recognitions.
[1:55] First, we have recognition of military banner program participant.
[1:59] This is Kevin Johnson on behalf of Christian Johnson, who's in the US Navy.
[2:05] Thank you.
[2:05] Thank you, Jonathan.
[2:06] Good bye, itself.
[2:07] Yes, please.
[2:11] We are very, very proud of what she knows her as to run a military government, started
[2:16] back in 2007, they are his name and women, which she knows residents, but they have a family
[2:24] member who is a resident, and we have been doing many, many young women who have volunteered
[2:32] to serve our armed forces, so we are very, very proud of them.
[2:35] And of course, I'm married from our local high schools, too.
[2:39] So with that, a new banner is up.
[2:41] And if you see that, there are the raw.
[2:46] Much Johnson, I hope that I was low-stated at Chinahows Park
[2:50] playing your limo-freak.
[2:52] Yes.
[2:52] Right, Dan?
[2:53] And that's what I said.
[2:55] It was about what she's doing.
[2:57] OK.
[2:58] Thank you for this.
[3:00] My daughter's a...
[3:01] I'm looking to hear this as 96.
[3:02] My daughter turned it 11th st. in school and it's in high school in Miracle. She's now
[3:09] stationed in Japan, Yokohama. She'd be for three years and this is honor to have this and I
[3:15] appreciate this opportunity. So thank you.
[3:24] So what's going to happen here about four years,
[3:27] unless you realize, is that you're beginning a better life out, which will have to die on it,
[3:32] which is right here, which we'll do for the purple here and there. So without the city,
[3:36] I would like to recognize you, and your daughter, or your contribution to an issue.
[3:41] Thank you very much, Frank.
[4:17] Yes, we have reached the moment again, for you already, for us,
[4:21] who was in the U.S. Marines in discharge June 15, 2011.
[4:27] All right, Mr. Perez, come on up.
[4:38] Time, we also like to recognize Professor Perez.
[4:41] As I mentioned, he was just recently signed up in O7, completed a tour
[4:49] And that was back in 08, 09, and then in 09, 010, another tour in App Dance Dance Dance.
[4:58] Because on the team leader, Swad leader, we see the big hands that know him.
[5:03] Currently, he is planning for the future.
[5:08] I go into the center and I'm doing the college to become a firefighter.
[5:12] He has a one-year-old son, right?
[5:14] It's pretty cool.
[5:16] The bear here, where you are, don't look right there.
[5:23] Oh, this is a sample of that.
[5:27] Your little sock.
[5:32] His bear was on back and back to the road,
[5:35] you know, to your house high school.
[5:36] Will you back to wait for him right?
[5:39] So, tell us how that experience was
[5:41] and what your future holds for you, all right?
[5:45] I appreciate you guys as a thing at the time for this and my family coming over here and supporting me.
[5:52] And if you do that, let's get all 15 members of the family out there.
[5:56] Thank you.
[5:57] Thank you.
[5:57] They are paying attention to me.
[5:58] I need some support.
[6:02] Thank you.
[6:14] Thank you.
[6:14] Thank you.
[6:14] It really looks quite experienced being out in Afghanistan.
[6:17] Especially being only 19 years old, deploying and leaving right out of high school.
[6:22] And I'll talk about that right after I left Iraq.
[6:24] came back knowing I had to deploy to Afghanistan seven months later and knowing I had to
[6:28] kid on the way and it was even harder being gone when my son was born while I was out there
[6:33] but I honestly couldn't do this without my family support and then I'm keeping him in my prayers
[6:38] and everybody else out there who prays for the troops every night and I just honestly appreciate it
[6:42] and it's really taught me how to really appreciate our family and appreciate your time being home
[6:47] because it's been a great family that I've been home and I have still trying to get used to being home
[6:52] I still feel like I'm only holding it for a little bit, but I'm finally on for good.
[6:56] I start scoring two weeks.
[6:57] That's an engineering college.
[6:58] I plan on becoming a fireman there, so that's pretty much where my future hit a
[7:02] lays out right there.
[7:03] I plan on completing that hopefully within the next three years and getting a job as a fireman.
[7:07] But I appreciate you guys time.
[7:08] Very full.
[7:15] Ladies and gentlemen, Jeremy, to act when they yourself back to the states, you promised
[7:21] to put you out in the yard and land around for the night time.
[7:29] This is a big matter, so put it up in your room, put it in your garage, pass it around
[7:36] your family and others, put it up in your living room, whatever you want, right here, on behalf
[7:40] of our entire community.
[7:41] Thank you very much.
[8:46] Right, admissions for this evening.
[8:48] Now we move to public comments on non agenda items.
[8:51] At this time, those persons wishing to address the city council on any matter, whether
[8:55] are not at a peers on the agenda, I requested to complete and submit to the City Clerk a request
[9:00] to speak form, which is available at the entrance to the Council chambers. Comments will
[9:04] be limited to three minutes per speaker. Again, at this time members of the public may address
[9:09] the City Council regarding any items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the
[9:14] City Council provided no action or discussion may be taken on any items, not appearing
[9:19] on the agenda. Again, comments are limited to three minutes per speaker. Our first speaker
[9:24] this evening is Bobby Griffith.
[9:41] Good evening Mayor, City Council members.
[9:44] And members of the audience, my name is Bobby Griffith.
[9:46] And I'm here tonight to talk quickly about a two-special
[9:50] events that are coming up in our city.
[9:53] I want everyone to save the day, Saturday,
[9:56] October 22nd, 2011, a sense of the library, cooking,
[10:01] expo, and vendor fair.
[10:04] We'll be selling wonderful cookbooks with recipes
[10:06] from your neighbors and friends.
[10:08] So we're having cooking demonstrations, there'll be a lot of vendors so you can get a jump start on your holiday shopping,
[10:17] kick-rock, DJ, all kinds of fun activities.
[10:20] So that is Saturday, October 22nd.
[10:23] What I want to talk to you next about is a wonderful event that is taking place this Saturday,
[10:30] this 13th, 2011 at 6pm at Shino Valley Community Church.
[10:37] at 1-4-6-0-1, paint and drive in the wonderful city of Chinnell-Hell's.
[10:45] The Chin family brothers will be putting on a free piano concert.
[10:51] The brothers are 17, 15, and 12, and have one numerous awards for their playing.
[10:59] The youngest one, Thomas 12, just got their playing at Carnegie Hall.
[11:04] This concert is free and will feature a light buffet, dessert and an opportunity to purchase
[11:13] our tickets for wonderful raffle prizes.
[11:16] We're just asking if possible that you donate money and buy raffle tickets all the money
[11:25] raised.
[11:25] We'll go to individuals, families and children in need in the city of Chino and Chino
[11:31] Hills.
[11:31] One of the charities is Isaiah's Rock.
[11:34] They're very blessed to have Mayor Ed Graham going to be there.
[11:39] Also, the mayor of Chino-Denic Yates, James Nau, the head of the school board, and Gary
[11:45] Albert Arcani supervisor.
[11:48] That Saturday, August 13th, 3 concert 6 p.m., Chino Valley Community Church.
[11:55] You do not have a ticket to get in.
[11:58] If you need more information, please call
[12:01] L.A. code 909, 6363005, and I do have information here.
[12:10] So please support this wonderful event.
[12:12] Thank you so much.
[12:14] Thank you, Mr. Griffith.
[12:16] James Stevens.
[12:31] Good afternoon, City Council and Mayor.
[12:33] I just wanted to come up and just say thank you,
[12:36] especially to Steve Nixon, Joe Dyer for the great job.
[12:39] guys did on our wonderful stop sign and we give praise to all of you for that and we appreciate
[12:46] all of your good works and the whole city it's really been a blessing to us. It's not
[12:51] how to deal with it. It's me getting so much smoother. We don't really have this stop sign at
[12:55] pipeline and yeah and like last time it's no the home park. So we really appreciate it and
[13:04] and this pretty much all I have to say I'd like to say one other thing I don't know if I can
[13:09] to do this and not, but the bad thing, I totally support what they want to do, because
[13:16] I think we all worship a different, well worship our own way, and we need to show respect
[13:22] to them.
[13:23] I just feel very adamant about that, and you know, well worship differently, and we all
[13:31] believe in the supreme being, or most of us do, we need to respect each other.
[13:37] So have a great evening.
[13:38] Thank you, Mr. Susan.
[13:41] That concludes the request to speak forms on non-agenda items.
[13:44] Next, we move on to city department business tonight.
[13:47] We have consent calendar items A1 through A13.
[13:52] All right.
[13:53] Here you are, first night.
[13:55] Ten.
[13:55] Eight.
[13:56] Eight.
[13:56] No?
[13:57] Not one.
[13:59] Hang on.
[14:02] None.
[14:03] And I had ten also.
[14:05] That was that motion for approval?
[14:07] I was a native sector moving to AHA in February.
[14:10] All right.
[14:11] Item A-10.
[14:12] This is alerting a contract to Griffith Company,
[14:15] and the amount of 1,845,291 dollars in 20 cents.
[14:20] The construction of the Peyton Drive Heidening Phase 2B Project.
[14:23] Mayor Graham, and Council Member Rogers.
[14:25] Mr.IGER, yep.
[14:27] This is a project we've been talking about for several months.
[14:30] It comes up every couple of meetings.
[14:32] As far as what's the timing, what's how's it going affect the community?
[14:35] And this seems especially with the crowd, we have right now seems like an appropriate time to not wait to the end of the meeting to talk about it.
[14:42] Since this is the project we've been talking about the Peyton Whiting Court or Steve, could you give us a little bit of what to expect over the next several months on this project?
[14:52] Well with the award of this project tonight, we would anticipate that probably within 30 days we will start constructing.
[15:00] Now, we'll include the complete widening of Peyton from English Road to Eucalyptus, including median curb and gutter sidewalk and all landscaping.
[15:13] And that construction will probably occur within about a 60 to 90-day timeframe thereafter.
[15:20] Now, originally we had talked about this starting March, April, May, June.
[15:25] It's different points, and then we're hoping we would start as school was letting out for
[15:30] LIDLE and for IELA high school.
[15:33] What was the hold-up that prevented us from starting the project in a timely manner?
[15:41] We had a glitch with one of the pieces of land acquisition that we had to acquire.
[15:47] Now that has been resolved.
[15:49] Now as far as traffic concerns, especially for IELA high school, what's been taken
[15:53] into account since we're not starting this at the beginning of the summer now.
[15:58] We will maintain one lane of traffic in each way during construction.
[16:05] After construction hours, we will open it up as much as reasonably possible more than likely what is existing today.
[16:15] What time are you fishing out?
[16:17] Construction hours are typically 7 a.m. to 330.
[16:25] I do understand school starts about 7, 15, 7, 30.
[16:31] We will work with the contractor to try and minimize the start time and work out about the back end.
[16:39] Yeah, the back end is not the problem, it's always like that.
[16:41] Right, right.
[16:43] That's all I have.
[16:44] I have the same question.
[16:45] motion to approve.
[16:47] All right.
[16:48] All right.
[16:49] All right.
[16:50] All right.
[16:50] That completes our consent calendar.
[16:52] Moving on.
[16:52] Item B1 is designating the voting delegate and alternate for the League of California
[16:57] Cities annual conference scheduled for September 21 through 23.
[17:03] All right.
[17:04] Mike.
[17:06] A recommendation would be to appoint our city attorney.
[17:12] more tensely and also myself. I may or may not be going to that. I'm still trimming it.
[17:19] So you are within your ability to point both in one of us as a little assume that responsibility.
[17:24] I'd like to do just that.
[17:25] All right. It's been moved in a second day.
[17:31] That training would be a primary vote, and then I see now I could be secondary though.
[17:35] All right. I was in favor? All right.
[17:38] Thank you, Mark. Did you know that?
[17:41] I understand there are going to be some things on there about attorneys and legal fees and so.
[17:46] All right.
[17:47] Thank you.
[17:48] Take care, please.
[17:49] Don't fall asleep.
[17:55] Next up, we have public hearings, public hearing item C1.
[17:59] This is to consider a negative declaration for an amendment to chapter 16.42.020.
[18:05] Chinoe Hills Municipal Code, pertaining to special use standards for religious facilities, which would allow heights up to a maximum of 80 feet
[18:13] for towers, steeples, or other similar architectural features, and for an amendment to site plan review number zero to SPR zero to BAPS development in case the applicant.
[18:24] You happen to know if we still have people out in the other room.
[18:29] Is there a thought out there in that?
[18:31] People in the lobby.
[18:31] If we do have, maybe Cindy, you want to go out there.
[18:35] We do have about 10 seats inside if they want to come inside and sit.
[18:40] All right.
[18:40] So it's really not like that.
[18:43] This is a proper phone.
[18:45] There are a proper phone staff.
[18:46] Make the presentation.
[18:49] So, if you have also the way the asked questions to staff, the applicant was then the
[18:55] Alaska major presentation.
[18:58] The council is allowed to the applicant.
[19:02] I was like, okay, I have the proper thing.
[19:05] I know it's very important for all of you right here, so sometimes you're very much
[19:08] from now, we are going to limit publishing, however, to 90 notes for a pro and 90 notes
[19:16] time. All five of us are very well-versed on the project, and we certainly hope that
[19:26] years in the bit of thought about the speech showing no information with us.
[19:37] That's really what
[19:38] If you are a pro, some of the private experience, we will certainly try about that at the end.
[19:45] If you do not have the opportunity to speak, all right, we'll certainly do that too.
[19:52] Also before we start, I had a couple of questions about our new development director.
[20:00] I think we're going to have a work for, and I'm not sure if you'd like for maybe three months, I believe?
[20:06] Yes, maybe don't know that Joanne was back in 1995, he's hard-track employee of the city and has been with her since
[20:16] 1995, in fact she ran some of the project the first time through back in 2002 to 2004.
[20:26] So she's our staff then and she's very robust and has a historical knowledge of the project.
[20:34] All right, so just let you know about that, too, and I think we're about ready, all right?
[20:44] Mr. Sullivan.
[20:45] Thank you, Mayor.
[20:45] City Council.
[20:47] You absolutely correct.
[20:48] We're going to go through a staff presentation that we'll do a full analysis and obviously
[20:54] inform the council and the audience as to the project.
[20:57] I'm going to ask our committee, Development Director,
[20:59] join Lombardo to kick it off and then she'll have staff as appropriate to, in particular, a lot
[21:07] of the technical work.
[21:09] Thank you.
[21:10] Mr. Mayor members of Council, we don't have a very detailed presentation for you tonight.
[21:16] Realizes this is an important project so we're trying to provide as much information as possible.
[21:21] On the project that you'll be looking at tonight has two parts, and the first part is
[21:26] the development code amendment. The development code amendment would add item F to the special
[21:31] use section of the municipal code, and that special use section deals specifically with
[21:39] the development and operation of religious facilities. As proposes the development code amendment
[21:45] provides a mechanism through which religious facilities located on non-institutional zone
[21:51] sites could achieve tower or spiral heights up to 80 feet, which is similar to what's allowed
[21:58] now for religious facilities located in institutional zones. The wording of the proposed
[22:05] development code amendment must hide allowance to sites which are mostly adjacent to
[22:10] commercially business park or industrialized properties. There are approximately 10 sites in
[22:18] that could meet these limitations as the proposed development code amendment language has.
[22:24] The second part of the project tonight is a site-plan review amendment that would permit the
[22:28] APS to construct our new temple, spires and domes and flags which range from approximately
[22:34] 42.42 feet into its up to 78 feet.
[22:40] And, depending on our principal plan, we'll have a presentation and he'll go into the detail
[22:44] of the project.
[22:45] And after that, I'd like to just spend a few minutes
[22:47] just summarizing the comments that planning commission
[22:51] provided one of you the project that can July.
[22:54] Can you explain the really, really items?
[22:59] This amendment was proposed by the city or the applicant.
[23:03] It was proposed by the applicant.
[23:06] The city did work with the applicant
[23:09] to develop a wording that we felt
[23:12] they could make the findings to support, so they did provide some feedback as to how many sites
[23:20] would be affected and which sites would be affected by the proposed development code and
[23:23] then at language.
[23:24] There is a little lot to do with, and it's also worth a little more to ask for them than that too,
[23:30] correct?
[23:30] Correct.
[23:34] Thank you, Joanne.
[23:36] Good evening.
[23:37] Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.
[23:39] Now, the item before you tonight is a negative declaration, development code amendment, and
[23:44] site plan review amendment.
[23:46] The applicant is BAPS development,
[23:52] and this is a slide of their proposed project sites.
[23:57] It's approximately 20 acres in size, and is zoned in how the land use designation of
[24:03] very high-density residential.
[24:04] It's also located on the south east corner of Montevice Avenue and Fairfield Ranch Road.
[24:14] This is a view of the project site looking west from Fairfield Ranch Road.
[24:24] This is a view looking at the project site north from the 71-freeway.
[24:34] To provide the Chancellor in the public a little bit of the project history in 2003,
[24:40] the Plan Commission recommended approval of the entire project to the city council.
[24:44] In September of 2004, the City Council approved all the entitlements with the exception of the proposed development codependent.
[24:52] The previous 2004 development codependent proposed that all religious facility, towered seabulls and other similar architectural features,
[25:02] be permitted up to maximum of 80 feet in all permitted zones, subject to the approval of the CUP.
[25:10] When staff looked and analyzed the potential effects of this proposal,
[25:16] we determined that approximately 185 properties citywide would have been affected.
[25:23] The status rates, the proposed 2004 development code amendment, which would have
[25:30] approximately affected 185 properties which are illustrated in color, and was, as you can see,
[25:42] had a citywide effect.
[25:45] City, the staff also used a minimum of 4.5 acres as a minimum lot size, and properties
[25:52] own freeway commercial, open space, light industrial, as well as the shops and the
[25:59] comments were not included because religious facilities aren't allowed in those zones.
[26:04] And the institutional zone wasn't included because they already are permitted to have
[26:10] religious facilities, towered peoples or other architectural features up to 80 feet.
[26:15] And business park doesn't have a maximum height limit as long as parking and landscaping is met.
[26:24] The current proposed development code amendment would add item F to Section 16.42.020 of the
[26:32] development code and would state that churches or religious facilities within a non-institutional
[26:37] zone and with more than 50% of its site adjacent to a business park, industrial, and or commercial
[26:44] zone may be permitted heights up to a maximum of 80 feet by towers, steels, or other similar architectural
[26:51] features provided such heights are compatible with adjacent buildings or structures.
[26:58] The wording that's in bold just illustrates the difference in wording from the 2004
[27:03] to today's proposed development code amendment.
[27:11] This night there was certainly potentially affected 10 sites, mainly along the 71 freeway.
[27:18] When staff analyzed it, we looked at what the existing site conditions and structures are,
[27:23] including Taiwan signs, located on the property as well as adjacent to the subject properties,
[27:29] looked at the existing land use and zoning designations, the permitted building heights
[27:34] put in development code, as well as the current site elevations.
[27:38] Why do you use a word potentially? Aren't there a 10 sites that are affected? Yes, it's a potential
[27:45] because the, it's nine potential, because
[27:49] religious facilities aren't proposed on the sites,
[27:53] currently, they're existing commercial developments.
[27:56] Yeah, okay.
[27:59] All right, so let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
[28:02] So this slide illustrates an arrow site one,
[28:06] which is the Fluna-Greating North site.
[28:09] It's approximately 16 acres,
[28:12] and has a maximum building height of 45 feet,
[28:14] and was previously approved for a 95 foot three-way pylon sign.
[28:24] Side number two is the existing crossroads marketplace.
[28:27] The side side is approximately 74 acres,
[28:30] and has a maximum burden height of 45 feet,
[28:33] and it's adjacent to an existing 100 foot four-way pylon sign,
[28:36] which is located on the crossroads entertainment center.
[28:45] Side number three is the Chinole's promenade.
[28:48] The side is approximately seven acres in size,
[28:51] has a maximum building height of 45 feet and is adjacent to the proposed SE-109 foot SE-Transmission
[29:01] lines that are known as a tachype, as well as some existing 25-30 foot pylon size.
[29:15] Number 4 is the property to the south, which is the quartz, the site size of approximately
[29:21] 11 acres, and has maximum building height of 45 feet, and has the same existing site conditions
[29:28] as the China Health Department.
[29:31] Henry, just for the general public's edification and so they can identify which sites
[29:37] these are, because they may not be that familiar with these.
[29:39] The site that we just discussed before is where the China Hills car washes and the Bravo Burger.
[29:44] This is where Roscoes is in this particular center, so I think it would give them a landmark
[29:48] like that, so I'll know exactly what they're looking at.
[29:50] Okay, I know that's correct.
[29:52] Yes, and the part of one was the Costco shopping center,
[29:56] and of course you identified the former grading works.
[30:03] Second number 5 is the Existing Tunnel Shocking Center, which is the Big Lot Center. That's approximately 9 acres in size and has a maximum building height of 35 feet.
[30:19] Second number 6 is the Existing Tunnel's Marketplace. It's approximately 27 acres. This is where the 24-hour fitness is located as well as bonds.
[30:29] and a maximum building height that's 45 feet, and it has an existing 100 foot freeway
[30:34] pipeline sign on the property.
[30:41] The second number seven is the Rancho Monovista Mobile Home Park, which is approximately
[30:45] 24 acres.
[30:47] The maximum building height is 42 feet, and it's adjacent to the Commons, which has two existing
[30:53] 75 freeway power signs and an existing 100 foot freeway pipeline sign, as well as
[31:00] approximately 90 foot SC transmission lines along one of this avenue.
[31:09] Site number eight is the BPS site and it has a maximum building at the 42 feet and has
[31:16] as adjacent to the common as well.
[31:23] Site number nine is the existing Circle King crossing site.
[31:26] This is where most far go is, as well as the right aid adjacent to Albertsons across
[31:36] from Higgins, across from Higginsburg, as approximately 14 acres in size, has a maximum
[31:42] double an height of 45 feet, and has a existing 35 foot pylon signs, as well as existing
[31:49] over 100 foot SC transmission lines I go through that property.
[31:58] Second number 10 is the Higgins Brickler excite, which is approximately 27 acres, has maximum
[32:04] the 45 feet, and has similar conditions than the
[32:09] Cyclicane crossing site.
[32:12] Henry, real quick, you've mentioned 10 sites.
[32:14] They're part of this development code potential change.
[32:18] Other property, there are a far more properties along that
[32:21] corridor just off the corridor.
[32:22] You've selected 10, you've mentioned somewhere
[32:25] consider if they're under 4.5 acres, that correct?
[32:29] Why do those versus other properties that are along the corridor?
[32:32] The 4.5 acres was actually, we put a minimum on the previous proposed automatic amendment
[32:40] that she got in 41.
[32:42] This one, potentially, 10 affected sites, or 9, including that the BPS site are included
[32:50] because they meet the 50% surrounding uses of commercial industrial zone properties.
[32:58] So they met the standards that were being proposed with the current development code.
[33:03] Thanks.
[33:08] Thank you.
[33:09] 50% selected by the law?
[33:12] I was 50% selected.
[33:14] We came up with that and it's basically just a majority.
[33:21] We just wanted to see the properties of the majority 50% or more.
[33:26] That's surrounded by non-residential.
[33:27] If I can add to that, that was considered bill-puller, I suppose.
[33:31] It's considered that the minimum acceptable standard to make a majority.
[33:38] In addition to that, just for clarification, it's not just the adjacent land uses, but it also has a proposed provision for consistency with adjacent structures and buildings.
[33:52] In the city, there's been various proposed development code amendments associated with projects.
[33:59] These have included Chancellor's Place and Oakmont, proposing development code amendments to allow assisted living facilities to be located in CN and CO zones.
[34:10] And touch cellular proposed development code amendment to allow wireless facilities to locate on existing.
[34:16] Utility structures within open space zones, as well as VilleBorba proposed various own changes in a development code amendment to modify two termination points of ridge lines within our development code.
[34:32] Some additional development commitments were
[34:35] behind-by-states proposed to resume from PD14-153 and PD24-145
[34:42] to PD203-01 and proposed development standards to meet the R.S. standards.
[34:50] And the Shops and the Commons proposed zone changes as well as permitted line use and development
[34:56] standard changes to specific plan.
[35:00] Over how many years does this do these seven constitute?
[35:07] When the proposals came in, it was 97, there's a earliest for Chancellor's Place, all the way to 2000 and 2006 for the comments.
[35:23] The applicants also proposing a cycline review amendment, which includes approximately 20 architectural features that project above the 42-foot height limit.
[35:32] That's the question about the other side.
[35:34] Sure.
[35:34] The previous one?
[35:36] No one.
[35:37] Yes.
[35:37] So the shots and the comments.
[35:41] A very violent, violent moment involved a specific plan.
[35:45] Is one proposed for this project?
[35:48] Is there a reason why or should it should not be?
[35:50] Won't be the difference between those three doing it.
[35:54] And the APS doing it is not doing it.
[35:56] Mr. Mayor, if I can help out on that question,
[35:58] A specific plan is a very comprehensive plan and it addresses the use infrastructure, development
[36:06] standards. In the case of this project, the Temple has already, Temple and its other facilities,
[36:12] were already approved in 2004 through the CUP.
[36:16] All right, they're the answer. Okay. Thank you.
[36:24] Now, that happens to us and for, though, they should have gone through a, that process that
[36:30] is, is it pretty specific for us?
[36:33] It's a potential, but at the time, we were no specific plans in the city.
[36:37] The shop was the first specific plan that the city had, then proposed, so it would have been
[36:43] something new at the time.
[36:49] The state of the Upland is also proposing a cyclone review amendment that includes 20 art
[36:55] future is that project above the 42 foot high limit, which are minor portions of the temple facility.
[37:02] It's approximately 15% of the temples roof area and 0.13% of the total DAPS site.
[37:12] The proposed spires and domes range in height from 42 feet, 8 inches to 78 feet.
[37:20] I was going to wait if I get up in my question for him to wait for the end of his presentation to ask him
[37:25] I'm playing with my iPad and I've got little bubbles all over the place, but as it relates to the number of
[37:30] spires, domes and towers, Henry, were there 20 in their visual proposal refresh my memory?
[37:35] Yeah, actually in this.
[37:36] And they were all the same exact height at the time?
[37:39] Hi, yes.
[37:40] This next slide actually illustrates the 2004 proposed elevations.
[37:45] The maximum height proposed at that time was 70 feet to the top of the spire and 78 feet to the top of the flight pool.
[37:53] Okay.
[37:53] The one difference that you're going to see in the next slides, which is the current proposed
[38:01] pipeline review amendment, the applicant probably can go into better detail, but the
[38:07] isolators at the bottom went from a whole battery to above ground, so that added height
[38:13] to it.
[38:14] So, the previously taken it back to it, the previously proposed elevations, I don't know
[38:24] if you could tell, but the spires and the domes are higher in that previous proposal
[38:32] than what is currently being proposed today, because of the increase in hype at the base.
[38:40] Because I see isolation.
[38:43] And there's the two-inch gap in between the base isolators and the floor of the temple.
[38:47] It's actually floating.
[38:48] Is that correct?
[38:50] It's like 12 feet.
[38:51] I'd more 10 feet.
[38:52] I believe.
[38:53] 10 or 11 feet.
[38:55] The isolators are above.
[38:56] Yeah.
[39:00] So this is the currently proposed cyclone review amendment.
[39:06] This is the east elevation.
[39:07] And the blue line illustrates the permitted maximum building height per the volume and code at 42 feet.
[39:15] The other call-outs are of the five major spires and one dome.
[39:22] That would shoot well above the 42 foot high limit.
[39:29] This is the proposed west elevation.
[39:36] This is the proposed south elevation.
[39:42] And this is the proposed north elevation.
[39:49] In doing the review, the environmental determination of the initial study was that a negative
[39:55] declaration would be required for the project.
[39:58] The city had a public review period from June 25th to July 18th of this year, and some
[40:04] of the potential less than significant impact findings of that negative declaration included
[40:09] air quality, greenhouse gas emissions and noise due to the additional temporary construction
[40:14] activity of the spires and domes, as well as aesthetic impacts.
[40:21] The aesthetic impact analysis concluded that tower steeples and spires are typically narrow
[40:26] and minor portions of the total building mass, and that the many potential affected development
[40:31] codependent sites currently have structures or adjacent two structures over a feet in height.
[40:39] Also, future religious facilities propose on one of the potentially affected development
[40:44] segment sites would be subject to the development code standards, conditional use permit,
[40:49] a site find review, and a secret review at that time.
[40:57] The applicant did a balloon survey.
[41:02] The red balloon illustrates the proposed tallest buyer at 78 feet, and this is a view looking
[41:11] across the 71 freeway.
[41:18] This is another view looking at the site from across the 71 freeway.
[41:22] I thought I'd interrupt you for a second, and if you look at that view, in fact, as you see right about the roof line, what appears to be all those towers in the distance there.
[41:36] And those are nearly 80 feet taller, they're not those of the, those of the numbers, but existing foot.
[41:44] Usually structures along none, one of the seven.
[41:47] This
[41:53] is a view that proposed site from the monovysome of the home park entrance,
[42:04] and this is a view of you looking at the site from the closest residents, located within the monovysome of the home park.
[42:16] And this is a view looking at the site from the intersection of Red Barn Court and Fairfield Ranch Road.
[42:21] Can you back to the previous one for a second Henry at the mobile home park?
[42:26] Okay. Thank you.
[42:35] Kind of the drafting of the staff report, the staff received approximately 313 public comments.
[42:42] Some of the support comments were the enhanced aesthetics of the BAPS facility, cultural diversity, religious freedoms,
[42:53] and the positive programs and natures of the BAPS provides the community.
[42:57] Some of the opposition commented on the lack of article consistency with the surrounding community that this decision could lead to additional users asking for an increase in height for their proposed projects, the peace and development and increase in traffic.
[43:20] after the staffing of the staff report, the city received an additional 267 public comment,
[43:29] supported similar to previous comments, and the opposition had a couple new ones which
[43:35] stated impacts of views on adjacent properties, as well as the applicant proposing a
[43:41] to change the development code to fit the development.
[43:44] So just to review, because we did receive some letters in that vein where they said
[43:48] approval of this development code change would affect the entire city, it will not affect
[43:55] the entire city, just the nine of this is mentioned, development code sites,
[44:07] okay.
[44:07] The first staff would recommend that the city council approve the negative declaration, development
[44:12] code amendment 10 DCAO2, and so I find review amendment O2 SPRO7 based on the findings
[44:18] effect, and subject to the conditions of approval.
[44:22] Can you talk about Henry Rye, BAPS, not coming with a amendment just for their site, only?
[44:33] Why effect my other piece of property?
[44:38] The fact I can address that, there is a number of ways the applicant could have come forward
[44:43] with asking for a high extension. One was about encoderment and the other was a zone change.
[44:53] And that's one of the questions I will also brought up by the Planning Commission during
[44:57] review of the project, the Institute of
[45:00] Additional zones and representatives does allow for spires, staples, towers for religious facilities to go to AFE.
[45:07] However, the institutional zone is very limited in terms of the types of uses that are provided there.
[45:14] At the same time, we have a development code, a municipal code that allows religious facilities through a CUP and a large number of different zones and large number of residential and commercial zones.
[45:26] So, an option could have been to come in for a zone change, but as staff looked at this it also there's a rationale for having some provision for religious facilities not within an institutional zone to have an opportunity, an avenue through which they could apply for the same standards as those religious facilities in the institutional zone.
[45:51] Currently, the city has a belief, the religious facility structures, there may be other religious facilities in centers, but there doesn't need buildings.
[46:03] On four institutional zones, four are not, four are in other residential commercial zones.
[46:10] On those in the institutional zone, we have a one facility that has a cross up to 80 feet and a roof line up to about 65 feet.
[46:20] And then there is another religious facility
[46:22] both along Peyton that is, I believe,
[46:26] their spire is close to 70 in the upper 60s.
[46:31] And the reason that some of these religious facilities
[46:34] are designated institutionalists,
[46:36] I understand that is that when the city was incorporated,
[46:39] then they did their new General Plan and Development Code,
[46:43] is that the institutionalists are on this place
[46:46] on the churches that were already in place.
[46:48] So, if you are located at a line point in the new religious facility, you've got the institutional zone.
[46:54] As the new churches have come in since that time, we're religious facilities.
[46:58] Most of them I believe have come in through the CUP process on non-institutional sites.
[47:11] And I was just going to say in addition to that, these are the items up here on the screen that were brought up by the planning commission.
[47:17] We have already addressed them.
[47:20] I remember them.
[47:21] One of the comments was why limited at 80 feet.
[47:26] What if somebody wants 100 feet?
[47:28] And the rationale for limiting at 80 feet,
[47:31] again, is that it would be consistent with the institutional zone
[47:33] that has at 80 feet.
[47:35] Consistency is generally a good practice in a municipal code.
[47:40] We've already talked about the difference between
[47:42] his own change and the development code amendment.
[47:45] And also as we adjust these earlier, what's the rationale behind the 50 percent, and that would be on minimum threshold.
[47:58] And we could, the 10 properties, one is BAPS.
[48:01] We have nine properties remaining.
[48:03] You identified each one of them.
[48:05] How many of those prop nine properties could put in to build a church or make a submission put in a church right now up to that height?
[48:17] Well, I mean, there could be other factors such as the commercial development selling it
[48:26] to them.
[48:26] But right now, there's existing uses along there.
[48:31] I guess meaning the two ones that are potential that we haven't heard from for religious
[48:37] So facilities would be the
[48:39] uh...
[48:40] secret canyon crossings which has vacant property as well as the
[48:44] uh... and now former pigments break site correct
[48:47] and if i could add to that
[48:50] and if those properties would be required to come into a condition you just
[48:54] permit process so it would be
[48:55] up to the discretion of a plan and commission to decide whether or not that's appropriate
[48:59] and as any pointed out there would also be the site plan review process a
[49:03] process, so there would be a discretion of the city to first of all decide whether or not
[49:08] a religious facility is appropriate on those sites. And then to decide if it's appropriate
[49:13] for those who are religious facilities to have a spire, power, et cetera, up to 80 feet. So
[49:19] there would still be quite a bit of discretion involved. Several of those properties are already
[49:23] developed. Let's take example the Costco Center. So that's developed that up for some
[49:29] reason that changed hands. But it was still a shopping center and once they leveled it,
[49:33] potential is that one property which is one of the nine remaining would not have a church
[49:37] on that facility.
[49:39] That's correct.
[49:40] I'm just trying to figure out how many really, when you boil it down, how many properties
[49:44] among the nine would actually have the potential?
[49:47] The potential that also be the great indoor site.
[49:51] That's there.
[49:52] I mean, that that may be raised as well, you know, if they can't find a compatible tenant
[49:57] for it.
[49:58] So you're talking Higgins, you're talking Circle Canyon, possibly great indoors,
[50:03] and any
[50:04] others.
[50:04] I mean, it's a speculative.
[50:06] I would suppose, right, Henry, depending upon your economy, what happens with changes
[50:09] of ownership or expired leases?
[50:12] All right, I think the point is understanding it, too, is that kind of those sites could
[50:19] through CUP process, have religious facilities with this code amendment would do, would allow
[50:25] them to have religious facilities that could go up to 80 feet.
[50:30] So that's really the distinction.
[50:34] The gradient door site, the structure there on certain it's not 80 feet.
[50:39] But that could be converted to a religious facility through the CUP process.
[50:45] So there could be another major drawback might be two, and they look at the parking associated with how many feet they would propose to build out as a religious facility.
[50:57] Obviously it would have to meet the parking standards for religious facilities as well, right?
[51:02] So that could be another limited factor.
[51:04] But several of the sites that we're looking at, there's an example of the property adjacent, which is the Motivist of Mobile estates.
[51:10] There's no way anything else is going to go in there because it's already built to the max, basically correct.
[51:14] go to the max.
[51:16] I mean, it isn't basically built right out to the property lines almost in that whole property.
[51:23] Okay, so they'd have to tear down something if they wanted to put it in.
[51:26] And again, like Mr. Hansley said, the only thing we're really dealing with is not whether or not the likelihood of a church going into those locations,
[51:33] but if a church went in, whether or not they'd want to go up to the 80 feet height restriction.
[51:37] Correct.
[51:38] Okay.
[51:38] If the A-F-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B was it just a SQL or a spy or it wouldn't include the building
[51:45] it would just be dark-detrial features.
[51:48] Still was building, right?
[51:50] Let's still have to be whatever it's known for, and that a feature I'm a technical feature.
[51:57] That's an interesting term.
[52:00] Where's that mean?
[52:03] And I'm not going to let you up the 80s and let me build. Is that an architectural feature?
[52:09] Yeah, yeah. Something that would be potentially considered an architectural feature, an architectural
[52:14] feature would be a minor adornment to everyone with disabilities typically associated with the
[52:20] religious practice of that faith.
[52:23] And again, at this point we're at what 13, what percentage of the total white plan is?
[52:28] The total area, yes, about 30%, yes, it's about 100% of the entire site.
[52:34] And what's the definitive number where it becomes too much that it becomes a proof of it?
[52:40] Well, the rationale behind the development economy and that there's enough discretion within the language to allow the city to make that determination.
[52:50] Obviously, our contextual features considered something that would be relatively a small amount of the whole building was out of half the roof line.
[52:57] That would be a qualifies in architectural features as a subjective review of what he has.
[53:03] From a platform staff standpoint, we would do a finding.
[53:06] We would do a study and we would provide documentation as to what qualifies and to why the proposal would not qualify in our opinion to as an architectural feature.
[53:18] But there's no hard and fact number than Joanna has had.
[53:22] You're talking class, flagpole, spire.
[53:27] Yes, it's what's understood as an architectural feature.
[53:30] Again, that word is already in the city's code and institutional sound.
[53:35] And we're looking for a consistency.
[53:38] Joanne and Harry, let's talk about this particular property specifically though.
[53:43] The structure itself, the ceiling of the temple itself, isn't it?
[53:47] Under 42 feet?
[53:49] That's correct.
[53:49] Okay, so everything above 42 feet, which would be the dome set of proposed, the spires, the flag poles,
[53:55] those are called architectural features and do not really apply to the area that could be
[54:04] inevitable which is under the 42 feet correct. So everything that they're proposing that goes above 42 feet
[54:09] is an architectural feature. And I think that's an important distinction to make this here because
[54:15] actual building, the ceiling of that temple, is under the 42-foot height restriction.
[54:22] Can I ask about the Planion Commission decision?
[54:26] It was a four-member vote, right?
[54:28] But in this paper, I talked about two members that voted yes, but they had concerns.
[54:37] Were those the concerns you mentioned on?
[54:40] Yes, yes.
[54:41] And the two of them that did vote in favor of the project, one was the development code
[54:47] and then it seemed to be confusing and why not a change of zone.
[54:51] And the other one was maybe the minimum adjacency should be more than 50 percent.
[55:01] And the one we'll vote was really poor what reason.
[55:04] What do you think?
[55:05] I really can't say another was discussion from that commissioner regarding maybe the 80th
[55:13] was too limiting, but again, it was, I can't summarize it to what the decision was based on.
[55:22] It was specifically targeted towards religious facilities ability to change that or I think have that ability to,
[55:28] but have that flexibility perhaps as well as the interpretation that I got speaking to the individual.
[55:33] And you're like the other was just, it appears that's the same question that afternoon.
[55:37] It just seems extremely cumbersome to include these other nine properties in here.
[55:41] you spoke about, you addressed it, that it just seems at first blush, that it seems quite complicated.
[55:47] Right. Right. But maybe I also add that in the case of doing a development code amendment,
[55:54] a development code amendment is something that would affect a number of properties.
[55:58] And so to be a reasonable development code amendment, it would have to be reasonably applied to other properties other than the DAPS site.
[56:06] And again, that was some of the criteria we were looking at.
[56:09] Is it reasonable for other properties to comply with the criteria?
[56:16] Yes.
[56:18] I think everybody asked on mine, I was trying to follow my previous notes from this past several
[56:23] days.
[56:24] The one of them, I guess it begs the question, we've made several references to the existing
[56:29] 90-foot existing proposed to hatchet reliance in the city.
[56:34] When those are increased to fold, you know, I hope that that doesn't become a new standard
[56:39] that's such an egregious project. Number one, number two, that's not a standard that we ever
[56:43] asked for in the city of Chinoelles. I hope that doesn't become a comparative analysis of the
[56:48] as these existing ones are for, you know, further performance to come forward and say, well,
[56:52] gee, you've got two hundred foot towers here. This is where we need to go. I hope, you know,
[56:56] in my lifetime, I know it also is that that never becomes a possibility that we use as the baseline
[57:01] stand or ever, ever, ever.
[57:05] I'll leave it at that.
[57:07] Thank you.
[57:12] Thank you.
[57:17] Thank you.
[57:17] Thank you.
[57:17] Ladies and gentlemen.
[57:20] Ladies and gentlemen, the questions and the floor is yours.
[57:26] Thank you.
[57:30] Good evening.
[57:31] Mayor and members of the Council.
[57:32] My name is Jeff Haber from Paul Hastings.
[57:35] I represent BFPS development.
[57:37] We're going to do a brief presentation
[57:39] And for you tonight, we won't reiterate the things that the staff said in its report, but
[57:45] I do want to take just a moment to thank staff for all of its hard work on this project.
[57:50] It really has been a collaborative effort, and we appreciate all the work that Joanne and
[57:54] Henry and the other folks and the staff that have done.
[57:58] What we'll do in this report is I've got to my left run at Patel who will talk a little
[58:02] bit about the history of BAPS at this site.
[58:06] and then we'll talk about the religious significance of the Mandir.
[58:09] Then I'll go through and talk a little bit about the development code of amendment itself,
[58:15] the effects and the impacts of the of the Mandir.
[58:18] And then to my right forendo she will talk a little bit about the BAPS involvement in the community
[58:24] of Chino Hills and the various things that we do with the community that's represented here tonight.
[58:31] So we'll take a few minutes of your time with your indulgence and we're also available obviously for any
[58:35] questions as the process goes along or at the end.
[58:40] Thank you.
[58:44] Mr. Mayor.
[58:45] I'm so pleased to be Council.
[58:46] Thank you for having us here today.
[58:48] For over a decade now, the BAPS congregation, Chino Hills, has been working with the
[58:53] city of Chino Hills to complete the BAPS Mendeering Cultural Center.
[58:57] Our journey, of course, began back in the mid-90s when the organization began its search
[59:01] for a single place to build a place of worship.
[59:04] In 2002, BAPS purchased property located on Fairfield Ranch Road near the corner of Montives Avenue.
[59:12] After two years of working with the city to complete the land use and entitlement process, the city council approved the BAPS project in its entirety with one exception, the additional height of the Monday.
[59:23] Thus in 2004, the city council approved the building of the Monday or the south are that up to only 42 feet.
[59:29] Two years later, the organization began construction of the cultural complex, which included
[59:34] an assembly hall, reception center, classrooms, a gymnasium, a kitchen and a directory.
[59:40] After three years of hard work, the congregation completely construction on those buildings,
[59:45] and weekly assemblies began in Chino Hills.
[59:47] You may be wondering why it took the congregation almost five years to complete construction
[59:51] of just a handful of buildings.
[59:53] It is because the organization is a not-for-profit organization dedicated to building a
[59:58] It's a song, but it's a sad song.
[1:00:00] Volunteers ranging from engineers to doctors, children to teenagers, have dedicated thousands of man-hours to having
[1:00:06] build them under a cultural complex. These same individuals have donated their hard-warning money
[1:00:11] for over 10 years to help with the project. Children have sacrificed buying toys and candy, teenagers
[1:00:17] have sacrificed buying cell phones and laptops, and a dose of sacrificed buying cars and going on vacation,
[1:00:24] all for the sake of completing our place of worship. In 2010, the congregation, in the organization,
[1:00:29] began constructing the Mendeir as set forth in the Scriptures.
[1:00:33] On a parallel track, volunteers of your organization began preparing to propose a
[1:00:37] development code amendment to the city of Shino Hills.
[1:00:40] Currently, phase one of the cultural complexes complete and they include the
[1:00:44] rectory, the assembly hall, the reception center, the gymnasium, and the classrooms.
[1:00:49] In addition to these buildings, the organization has also recently
[1:00:52] completed construction of solar car ports.
[1:00:55] And if you look over here, it's going to be identified by number
[1:00:59] by number seven, as well on your slides as well.
[1:01:03] In addition to completing these buildings,
[1:01:05] those solar cohorts were designed for run purpose.
[1:01:08] It was just to remove the cultural center
[1:01:09] and the Mendeir off the electrical grid.
[1:01:11] In fact, based upon our initial estimate,
[1:01:14] the organization may be able to deliver energy back to the city,
[1:01:18] to help ease the burden of local energy consumption.
[1:01:21] When the sensitivity of our natural resources,
[1:01:23] the organization is not only relying on solar power,
[1:01:26] but also on reclaimed water for its landscaping, the growth course is to protect our environment and rely on clean energy.
[1:01:33] Construction of the Mondeo, which is identified by number 6, is currently underway in spans at approximately 30 feet.
[1:01:39] The foundation, which includes the base-licelator system, which was discussed through a literature protected against Earthquake, is currently completed.
[1:01:47] The Mondeo itself, of course, is the most important and significant part of the project, and without it, worship is simply not complete.
[1:01:53] Construction, construction of the Nendier, including its proportions, are strictly governed by the Scriptures.
[1:01:59] Indeed, the proportions of the Nendier are calculated based upon a detailed scriptural formula
[1:02:03] that is based upon the image of God that will be placed inside of the Nendier itself.
[1:02:09] In this case, BAPS is chosen to place the smallest image inside of the Nendier to ensure that it builds the smallest possible Nendier itself.
[1:02:17] Based on the 54-inch image of God that will be placed inside the Mendeir, the minimum height of the Mendeir itself must be at least 78 feet in height at only 1 point.
[1:02:27] It's highest point.
[1:02:28] Contrary to some beliefs, the Mendeir itself will not be a 78 foot building. Only one spiral will reach that height.
[1:02:35] However, if one were to further break that 78-figure down even further, one would learn that the stone structure actually stops at 66.25 feet.
[1:02:43] and the remaining 11.75 feet is a flagpole that is 2 inches in diameter.
[1:02:49] Further, that's fire actually tapers, and is wider at the base, and becomes very small as it increases in height.
[1:02:55] The visual impact of such a fire is incredibly minimal, like noted in the staff report.
[1:03:01] In addition to picking the smallest image possible for the Mendir, the organization is compromised by reducing the Monday's height and size as requested in 2004.
[1:03:10] First, the height of the stone structure of the main spire was reduced from 73 feet to 66 feet.
[1:03:17] In addition, the overall square footage of the Minder was reduced by 6800 square feet.
[1:03:23] These reductions were successfully completed despite having to increase the foundation by 6.5 feet.
[1:03:29] Finally, when the script is provided us an opportunity to reduce the size of the Minder, we chose to reduce the size of the Minder.
[1:03:36] All these scriptures, all these sacrifices compromises were completed within the scriptural
[1:03:41] requirements.
[1:03:43] Of course, without the requisite height and proportions, the Mendeers self cannot be consecrated
[1:03:47] and used for worship.
[1:03:49] It is also important to note that the Mendeers self represents the image of God and as such
[1:03:53] must be constructed according to the scriptures.
[1:03:57] As we discussed previously, the Mendeers self is a place of worship.
[1:04:00] On a typical Sunday, worshipers would come to the Mendeers to offer their devotion and pray
[1:04:05] part of their individual worship. Once their individual prayer is completed, the individual
[1:04:10] will remove to the assembly hall or to the classroom to be part of their assembly service
[1:04:14] similar to a Sunday school in another church. There are no congregations services held
[1:04:19] inside of the Mendeir itself. The Mendeir in fact can only hold approximately 110 people
[1:04:24] based upon the religious practices that are completed inside of the Mendeir. Not only does
[1:04:29] in the South for the very small amount of people. The Sunday worship serves 200 to 250 families
[1:04:35] from the local Chino Hills area. This is our most Sunday service. In addition, the Chino
[1:04:41] in addition to Chino Hills, there are three other BAPS centers located in Southern California.
[1:04:46] They include San Diego, Bakersfield and Victorville. Our clergy based in Chino Hills regularly
[1:04:52] attend worship in these local centers to minister and counsel the members of the faith there.
[1:04:58] During three religious holidays, families from the other BAPS centers may attend.
[1:05:03] This is however unlikely because those are likely leaders, and they would attend,
[1:05:08] and they would stay back to organize and manage the holiday at their local center.
[1:05:13] If for all of these reasons that we've proposed to development code amendment to the city of Chenele Hills,
[1:05:18] I'll go ahead now and pass it to my colleague here for Indosi who also talk about,
[1:05:22] a little bit about, sorry, Mr. Jeff Hayberg will talk about the code amendment itself.
[1:05:31] Okay, good evening, Jeff Hayberg again.
[1:05:33] I wanted to just spend a few minutes talking about the specifics of the code amendment and
[1:05:40] what we're proposing to do and what its impacts will be.
[1:05:42] Again, John and Henry really covered a fair amount of this, so I'll be relatively brief.
[1:05:48] In 2004, the City Council did approve the Site Fund review and related entitlements
[1:05:53] that allowed the construction of the BAPS Center, including a man deer, but was not approved
[1:05:58] in 2004, however, was the development could have been proposed at that time, which is
[1:06:04] Joe Anne and Henry pointed out would have applied to far more properties across the city,
[1:06:09] and therefore we had a man deer approved, but just would have approved with the existing
[1:06:14] height limit in the zone of 42 feet.
[1:06:17] But at that time, the city did a full environmental analysis of all of the projects impacts,
[1:06:22] including traffic and parking impacts from a fully occupied cultural center and a fully occupied
[1:06:28] manned deer, as well as the visual impacts from having an 80-foot tall manned deer.
[1:06:35] So I wanted to just emphasize that the traffic and parking were already looked at at that time.
[1:06:40] In fact, they did the analysis of the highest possible parking requirements and traffic requirements based on having
[1:06:48] 1767 people on site at one time, which was the physical maximum of people that could be on site,
[1:06:55] including the biocode maximum in the Mandir itself, although has run it pointed out, no congregational services will occur in the Mandir,
[1:07:04] and that's really a place for individual worship, where folks who are coming to the site will spend on average probably only about 15 minutes of their visit to the site.
[1:07:14] most of the visit will be spent in the Assembly Hall, which is where the Congressional Services
[1:07:19] will occur.
[1:07:20] That Assembly Hall, by the way, has already been constructed, is complete and is open.
[1:07:26] In 2009, 2010, we met with the City staff on the number of occasions to talk about various
[1:07:32] possibilities, the zone change, the variants that Joanne mentioned, as well as various different
[1:07:38] iterations of the development code amendment.
[1:07:40] We in city staff collectively decided on the focus code amendment because it was determined that it really had a limited impact across the city and would be provide the fairness for religious institutions that weren't in institutional zones, but still protect residential communities with the 50% requirement.
[1:08:02] As Henry mentioned, the impact is minimal and really is unlipted along this 71-free way.
[1:08:10] It's also important to point out as staffed, to understand that this included none of them
[1:08:17] because only 10 sites would be affected.
[1:08:20] But there are several other provisions that are required before religious institution could put up
[1:08:27] by a steeple, a manager, or some other architectural feature.
[1:08:30] First, it has to be a religious institution.
[1:08:32] It can't be a commercial institution.
[1:08:34] It can't be a residential institution.
[1:08:36] It has to be religious.
[1:08:37] Second, it can't be occupierable square footage.
[1:08:40] It has to be an architectural feature, which, as Joanne pointed out,
[1:08:44] is already defined in the city's code.
[1:08:48] And finally, it would have to go through all the other
[1:08:51] entitlement processes.
[1:08:52] a CUP site plan review and environmental review, you couldn't just come in and put this up.
[1:08:58] So somebody wanted to take the cost code, for example, and turn it into a religious institution
[1:09:02] and apply for this, the cost code couldn't go to 78 feet, only a spire could go to 78 feet.
[1:09:09] Only for religious institution, not for a cost code.
[1:09:12] And it would still have to go through the ordinary CUP site plan review and environmental review processes.
[1:09:21] And we already went through all this so I don't need to.
[1:09:25] We are proposed, manager, the tip of that flagpole, we feel be lower than a number of other
[1:09:33] signs and other pylons in the city.
[1:09:36] And we don't even have to go to the power lines.
[1:09:39] I agree that we never need to go there.
[1:09:41] We're much lower than things that already exist in the city.
[1:09:43] The city has approved, not that some third party approved.
[1:09:48] Again, I would just point out that the 32 feet is the current pipeline that that's the
[1:09:53] height of the assembly hall. The roof line of this building, the highest occupival area,
[1:09:59] is only 34 feet. So everything above 34 feet is purely an architectural feature from the
[1:10:06] city's perspective, obviously has religious significance to B.A.K.S.
[1:10:11] And then finally, I would just point out that the spires would occupy only 15% of this building
[1:10:21] on the roof line.
[1:10:23] But if you look at the entire 20-acre site, it's 0.13%.
[1:10:29] So that's in two tenths of 1% of the 20 acres would be above the 42-foot height limit.
[1:10:36] So, thank you and now I'll turn it over to Porn Doshy, we'll talk a little bit about the APS and
[1:10:40] Chino Hills.
[1:10:48] Good evening.
[1:10:49] Members of the Chino Hills City Council, City staff, community members, and neighbors.
[1:10:54] My name is Porn Doshy and I reside at 16, 854, Cameron, Court, and Chino Hills.
[1:10:59] And I'd like to spend the last few minutes of our presentation tonight speaking of our involvement
[1:11:04] in our community and what that is not to the organization.
[1:11:07] Now, I know many of you are already aware of our efforts, but I want to briefly review them for the audience here tonight.
[1:11:15] All of blood drives have collected over 1,000 pints of blood in Chino-Hosellone.
[1:11:20] In fact, in 2005, we were able to set the record for the most blood collected in one day.
[1:11:25] Attended by some of you are annual health fairs, which are one of 40 health fairs held by BFES
[1:11:31] charities across the country, have provided free testing and consultation with volunteer doctors for the community
[1:11:37] while also giving the community the opportunity to learn about healthier lifestyles.
[1:11:43] Additionally, in these trying economic times, we've also focused on trying to help the less fortunate in our community
[1:11:49] through our Thanksgiving food drives and also through our holiday toy drives.
[1:11:52] In these drives, each year our volunteers deliver much-needed food, supplies, and toys to families in need.
[1:12:00] And our volunteers experience, not just the happiness and the eyes of the children and the families were able to offer assistance to, but more importantly, a sense of fulfillment and a sense of purpose,
[1:12:10] and the eyes of the younger members of our congregation who work to make these drives a success.
[1:12:14] Through these initiatives, the youth are empowered to be active, to be engaged, to be conscious members of the community and the leaders of tomorrow.
[1:12:25] Our biggest community event every year is our annual Walkathon, which many of you have attended in the past.
[1:12:31] There are 45 such BAPS congregations throughout the US that join with their local communities to raise funds for where the local causes and needs while encouraging healthier lifestyles.
[1:12:41] Last year, BAPS charities Chino holes walk upon benefited the Chino hole high school academies.
[1:12:48] The kids from the high school responded in an incredible way, and together we were able to ensure the program continues.
[1:12:55] As noted earlier, our congregation has also strived to be an environmentally responsible member of the community,
[1:13:00] through our solar carports which make us a net contributor to the power grid and also through our water reclamation efforts.
[1:13:08] VAPS also opens its doors to the children of our community through our annual education and career development day and through the National Junior Basketball League.
[1:13:17] In terms of the NJB, we were approached by members of the community looking for a safe and local place to play. Our facility includes a gymnasium and we were happy to open our doors to the NJB Boys and Girls teams.
[1:13:29] It's great to see these kids playing, having fun, and learning at our facility.
[1:13:35] However, in each of these instances, where our congregation has reached out to serve the community,
[1:13:40] it has been especially rewarding for us to see the response of the community.
[1:13:45] And really, that's what I want to focus on tonight.
[1:13:48] Not our involvement in the community, but rather the involvement in the response of the community.
[1:13:54] Each of the things that you see on the screen, and that I've mentioned,
[1:13:57] We're successful because of this community and the support and the encouragement we receive from all quarters.
[1:14:03] Truly, China holds has been a great home far congregation.
[1:14:06] When we reach out to the community, the community responds.
[1:14:10] And for that we are truly grateful.
[1:14:12] Indeed, the community's response toward our congregation and our organization through this process has been incredible and heartwarming.
[1:14:20] Many, many letters of support have been written.
[1:14:22] And tonight, the support from our community members has been simply overwhelming.
[1:14:28] If I may, I'd like to ask the audience to please stand to show their support for our organization through this process.
[1:14:40] In addition to the people you see standing here, there are 140 to 150 Chino Hills residents who support this project standing outside as well.
[1:14:49] Thank you.
[1:14:52] As you can see, this community has been and continues to be great for BAPS. Thank you.
[1:15:00] So thank you very much and we're available for any questions that you might have either now or later.
[1:15:06] We had a question. We went up here. We'll ask them now, we'll go back later.
[1:15:10] Have you had a meeting with anyone?
[1:15:11] All right, thank you. I'm sure we'll be back with that.
[1:15:13] Thank you.
[1:15:17] All right, it is now a little bit up to the public hearing now.
[1:15:22] Well, I'm going to wish you, I got to speak. What do you think?
[1:15:25] I'm going to guess 200. All right.
[1:15:30] So, two hundred times, two hours,
[1:15:38] so we start talking about three, it's been a year
[1:15:41] and we're just trying to stress from the project.
[1:15:46] As I mentioned before, we had them before, all five of us are very familiar with the proposal,
[1:15:55] We are the Holy Talk. Please don't repeat. If we don't get you after knowing you know
[1:16:02] it, we'll do a stand-up type of thing again. Just let me acknowledge that, you know,
[1:16:08] that you didn't want to speak, but we can not get you. Do you want me to call it a tenor
[1:16:14] time and yeah. So a little bit that's awesome. How about total of the other time? We're
[1:16:21] going to save you. I listen to the side wall to our left. So John and we have to have a
[1:16:27] seat unless you speak in the first one of the one through ten. And then we'll hire you up,
[1:16:34] hustle up to the podium and we'll hit the show on the road. Okay. Let's start with Carol Aspiss,
[1:16:42] 10 Perkins, so I fell from that bite down until they lay up on the wall.
[1:16:47] Deborah Hernandez, Adam Elison, Chetal Patel, Ed Randon,
[1:16:58] Michael Swenson, Tom Kelly, and
[1:17:02] Savitri Zala, all right, I love him, though.
[1:17:07] Thank you.
[1:17:08] That's a name like Aspera, I always get to go first.
[1:17:11] No, not always.
[1:17:11] Anyway, I need this Carol asked me to try
[1:17:14] over a little bit more cold in the mic.
[1:17:17] Right there.
[1:17:17] Oh, to the mic, okay.
[1:17:19] I thought you said the light, if it was going right.
[1:17:23] I was going right.
[1:17:23] It was a light.
[1:17:24] When I was Carol asked her, I live in work here in Chinohills.
[1:17:28] And I've addressed the plan commission
[1:17:31] before that I had a little bit more information
[1:17:34] that I wanted to share with the commission today.
[1:17:38] And what I'd like to address is that I believe
[1:17:41] the approval for the BAPS tempo is low overdue that starting way back when they actually
[1:17:47] give up their property to the city so the city could create their dream which is like
[1:17:52] this whole area here in the city the BAPS have this area that they were working on to buy.
[1:17:58] So the property was on here is institutional which if you know it or not there's other
[1:18:05] other churches by Lauren Payton again that are institutional, so they'll have more limitations
[1:18:11] to the heights. So if perhaps had stood firm and kept that property, there would be no
[1:18:17] issue with building restrictions or them having to go through this right now. The institutional
[1:18:23] zones were aligned, they're building up to 80 feet. But the city did approach the community
[1:18:29] and it was that that's given up that location, explaining the city plans and dreams for that property.
[1:18:35] And to learn a long court battle, or with the property,
[1:18:39] that's made that possession, so that so they did accept
[1:18:43] another location, and everybody basically should cancel
[1:18:46] that agreement. Not long person mentioned the delays
[1:18:50] that would occur because of the different zoning on new property.
[1:18:54] And it has zoned our in three right now for high density,
[1:18:58] and you can see the type of things that they're going through
[1:19:01] to get this approval. So people may dispute
[1:19:05] whether it should be resumed, okay, or as institutional, or if it's some type of exception,
[1:19:12] be granted to the fairfield ranch location.
[1:19:17] So, but the decision was made that they go for the code amendment as Joens talked about.
[1:19:23] So, by applying a code amendment across the subsection, the planning commission in the
[1:19:27] BAPS has worked on that amendment together to provide a solution that provides a good solution
[1:19:32] fairness to the city for future RM3 zoning issues. So, their exchange is the thing I want
[1:19:41] to talk about. It's an important human principle and it holds a community together and forms
[1:19:47] the basis for a broader morality. Both sympathy and cruelty require imagining how your behavior
[1:19:55] effects others. So, a bath community has continued to express a lot of positive behaviors
[1:20:03] showing their desire to work out an amenable solution with the city.
[1:20:09] While a few citizens have expressed a lot of pressure on us, please wrap up.
[1:20:14] Okay, we have gathered today in the community tonight to share our support and pray that
[1:20:19] the city council was passed this code amendment tonight. It is time that we show the same
[1:20:23] I want to respect that that's the soon to our city and help them fulfill their dream and complete their temple. Thank you very much.
[1:20:39] Just 10 perkins.
[1:20:46] Are you talking fine?
[1:20:48] Yes.
[1:20:51] Hello, 10 perkins.
[1:20:52] Thank you on what mayor and council members.
[1:20:55] I don't want to take a whole lot of time.
[1:20:56] I think that your staff have done a fantastic job bringing all the information to you.
[1:21:02] The long trail that's been sought by this organization.
[1:21:06] I can only say that there are a really nice group, they are going to provide a structure
[1:21:11] that I think is going to really benefit our city.
[1:21:15] And I just think that you should note that this petition, I do think that one of the things
[1:21:22] that was brought here at this desk was all the one of the things that had been done to
[1:21:28] this and for this community by this organization.
[1:21:30] And this kind of a group definitely is as an enhancement to our community and I think that we should move forward with this.
[1:21:37] So thank you very much.
[1:21:39] Thank you very much.
[1:21:49] But let's do this.
[1:21:50] How are you? You are a side of a long chair.
[1:21:53] Please let's rely after Deborah.
[1:21:55] It's a long long.
[1:21:56] That's right.
[1:21:56] That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.
[1:21:57] So we have a staging line.
[1:22:01] Oh yeah.
[1:22:01] If I was just moving, so we'll have an on-back and I'll have a staging.
[1:22:08] All right.
[1:22:09] Better.
[1:22:11] All right.
[1:22:12] Dad, do you have three words?
[1:22:13] I started 50 seconds ago.
[1:22:15] Thank you.
[1:22:16] Thanks.
[1:22:17] Good evening there, Graham Council members.
[1:22:19] I'm speaking tonight on behalf of the DAPS and in support of passing this particular amendment.
[1:22:28] As I noted in my comments at the Planning Commission recently,
[1:22:32] There are already a number of structures in the city, and it has been presented tonight.
[1:22:36] Then I already made or exceed this high, including my own personal choice for House of
[1:22:42] Worship.
[1:22:43] I don't see this as really changing much in our city other than allowing the bouts to have
[1:22:50] their home for worship.
[1:22:53] There's also been concerns for
[1:22:59] the past 21 years.
[1:23:01] As a member of the Plan Commission for the past nine years, I've relied heavily upon the professional staff and the little council to do the heavy lifting and relation behind the scenes for numerous projects before they reach the public hearing.
[1:23:16] This development will kind of limit before you, has been reviewed and examined and regained
[1:23:21] by legal counsel and staff extensively over the past two years, and they would recommend
[1:23:27] approval.
[1:23:28] You plan for this and support that recommendation to you.
[1:23:32] The people of China has been given ample opportunity during the process throughout the
[1:23:36] houses.
[1:23:37] These paper articles, notices of the plan commissioning, and this mean, along with detailed
[1:23:44] information about the projects set by CDC staff not just to the surveillance
[1:23:48] property owners, but to anyone who ever come in on the project, both
[1:23:54] pre- and pre- and pre- and pre- and this is a community that does not shy away from
[1:23:58] voicing opposition to certain projects as I have personally witnessed at other
[1:24:04] families' commission meetings and is evidenced by the most recent to hatch a
[1:24:08] project.
[1:24:10] Something is wrong with our system, or our communication, when an applicant is performed
[1:24:15] for this long, provides everything the city has requested, being so open and accessible
[1:24:20] to staff, commissioners, council, and especially the public, only to get to this point
[1:24:26] and have a surprise ending.
[1:24:29] Activation is by a few in opposition to a development code amendment and special treatment
[1:24:34] do not understand the planning process. Development colonel owners were not invented for
[1:24:40] BAPS, and we have seen many that the plan for missing over the years and none of them
[1:24:44] has ever had the same accusation. However, the development colonel owner processes a
[1:24:50] planning tool, like a variance, a zone change, or an overlay, that allows us, the people,
[1:24:57] the commissioners and council to direct our own destiny, and in this case I believe for
[1:25:02] better. Develop the parliamentments, like other tools, allow us the ability to adjust and change
[1:25:07] when appropriate. The process and the people have spoken, vote in favor of this project
[1:25:13] in this application, let's look forward to this grand opening of this amazing project.
[1:25:26] Good evening, Council members and staff. My name is Jeepal Patel. I'm a resident of Chino Hills
[1:25:31] and a practicing attorney. I reside at 16384 Sicily Drive. I'm here to see a few words about the building
[1:25:37] code and code amendments. The purpose of a building code is to protect the public health,
[1:25:42] safety and welfare. A building code amendment, variants, or special use permit,
[1:25:46] maybe necessary to further this purpose. For example, China also has had between 9 and 18
[1:25:51] code amendments since 2006. These amendments have been necessary so that the building code
[1:25:57] can evolve with the changing needs of the city and its people. Since China has incorporated
[1:26:02] in 20 years ago, its population has nearly doubled to 75,000 residents.
[1:26:08] Over the past several years, this growth has brought about many changes along the 71 freeway
[1:26:12] corridor.
[1:26:13] Recently, we have all enjoyed the convenience of having stores close by.
[1:26:17] From the opening of the Chinole shops on Grand Avenue to the Chinole's Commons and Marketplace
[1:26:22] on Chinole's Parkway.
[1:26:24] Many multi-story hotels have also opened, such as the Eiers, Extended State, and Holiday
[1:26:29] in, housing our friends, family, and business associates.
[1:26:32] These structures are powered by new Southern California
[1:26:35] Edison power lines.
[1:26:37] Along with the added convenience that these structures
[1:26:39] provide are the changes that they have brought
[1:26:41] to the Chino-Hose landscape.
[1:26:43] The Chino-Hose Shots sign is a 100 feet tall
[1:26:45] and the Chino-Hose Commons and Marketplace sign
[1:26:47] is also a 100 feet tall.
[1:26:48] The hotels are all three stories of taller
[1:26:50] and the power lines are over 100 feet tall as well.
[1:26:54] The code of the BAPS project is
[1:26:55] I'm going to use the changing landscape and population of Chino-Hels.
[1:26:59] Our requested event of 78 feet was chosen after examining Hindu scriptures and as a short
[1:27:03] as height, they conform to the scriptural requirements.
[1:27:07] It will have minimal impact on the residents and have no effect on the public health and safety.
[1:27:12] We respectfully ask that you consider the code amendment as a simple tool to make a necessary
[1:27:17] change in our evolving community.
[1:27:18] Thank you.
[1:27:19] Thank you.
[1:27:20] President Trump,
[1:27:24] President Trump, it granted.
[1:27:28] Good evening, Madam Graham Council members.
[1:27:31] As a Firstell Wrench, President and former President of the Homeland Association, I just want
[1:27:36] to speak to the height issue and traffic issues that have been brought up for years, and there
[1:27:42] are no issues, as far as Firstell Wrench has concerned.
[1:27:45] We have had never experienced any issues regarding those two obstacles, potential obstacles,
[1:27:50] If anything, we'll do well with the groups that that is where we have traffic and a lot of outside people coming through there and
[1:27:57] We've seen and countless other things, but this has been a good good good good to work with. I personally enjoy going over there
[1:28:03] Taking my family and as far as for the ranch concern, we welcome it and I just could never thank you. Thank you
[1:28:09] Thank you
[1:28:10] One
[1:28:16] of the mayor and members of the council. We thank you for your time this evening
[1:28:21] I am Michael Soronson. I'm a member of a three-person presidency of the Chino-California
[1:28:28] stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Waterly Saints. You would know us as Mormons.
[1:28:36] We are eight congregations and a little over 3,200 members. I'm here this evening and
[1:28:51] with a number of reasons that I felt this made a lot of sense this evening. Each of those has already been persuasively argued.
[1:29:00] And so my list is very short now. I would simply say that as I moved here, more than two decades ago, we were a few homes and canyon corral at that time.
[1:29:14] And I love what the city has become.
[1:29:19] As I leave my home on Sunday mornings to go for film my own responsibilities, one of the things that I love about this city is seeing the number of people who attend the churches of their faith.
[1:29:33] Our churches are filled, our parking lots are always filled with cars and I've loved
[1:29:40] that about our city, where religious community may we always be so.
[1:29:46] I'm a border by profession and I understand in support ordinances that keep order in a city.
[1:29:54] But I believe there are times when it makes sense to adjust those ordinances.
[1:30:00] We've seen willing in the past to have allowed much greater edifices than what are being considered here. Not only in their height, but also in their mass. Those edifices advertise our shopping centers and places of business and entertainment from the freeway.
[1:30:19] We're pleased with the tax dollars that come to our city that benefit our city as a result of those structures.
[1:30:25] But in the long run, much greater benefit comes to our city through the families and the faith
[1:30:33] of those who live here.
[1:30:36] Shouldn't we not grant such permission in something that will be of much greater and lasting
[1:30:42] benefit to us as a community?
[1:30:45] I urge your yes, Lord.
[1:30:46] Thank you very much.
[1:30:53] This is the first time where you're going to be up to 10, remember the Umburg, Carlos Baumgarten,
[1:31:03] Marco Baumgarten, Michael Carter, Greg Umburg, Angela Pebbles, Jettendra Dave, and Benjamin Sanchez.
[1:31:15] Now you think of a line, don't worry about the order.
[1:31:17] If you first just jump in that lead chair and then tossing on the roof in there.
[1:31:23] Good evening council members, Mr. Mayor.
[1:31:26] My name is Tom Kelly.
[1:31:27] I've been resident of Diamond Bar for 12 years and a member of the resident of Chino Hills
[1:31:33] for the past 13 years.
[1:31:36] I spend particular attention to look at our city and I feel very fortunate to have
[1:31:47] I'm here to support the amendment through the the BAPs amendment as stated.
[1:31:54] I make this, you know, based on just a three reasons, there's many issues, many reasons.
[1:32:00] But, number one is the gentleman earlier tonight says, you know, I support the religious freedom.
[1:32:05] We are a country that has been built on religious freedom and tolerance.
[1:32:09] And I see, I also understand that there's a lot of legal issues when, you know,
[1:32:16] Council members and other civic members do in their deciding whether or not certain legal
[1:32:22] things are appropriate or not, but I also look at the support of the community.
[1:32:27] We have, as letters say, that out of a 300 or a 310 letters that were submitted in favor
[1:32:32] of this project.
[1:32:34] And I look at this, I look at that side of it, I'm critical thinkers, I look at the pros
[1:32:39] and the cons, I look at the overwhelming support.
[1:32:42] And I'm just glad to express my own, you know,
[1:32:47] or not proposal, but, you know,
[1:32:51] support of this mandate to be built as it was designed,
[1:32:56] and allow the membership of the BAPs and other people in our community
[1:32:59] to express it on religious belief as state itself.
[1:33:03] Thank you.
[1:33:03] Thank you.
[1:33:04] Good
[1:33:12] evening, everyone.
[1:33:13] Council members, Honorable Council members.
[1:33:15] My name is Sanitri Zella, and I reside at 1637 Katina Drive in the Volano community.
[1:33:23] I absolutely love this city, and I feel extremely blessed to be a part of our close-mate unified community,
[1:33:29] regardless of what spiritual backgrounds we may help from.
[1:33:33] They can really belong to a vibrant history of individual development that contributes to the beautiful city we are a part of.
[1:33:40] I am here today to express my personal insight of the BAPS project.
[1:33:45] As humans at one point or another, we're bound to have a moment of self-discovery.
[1:33:50] For me, it was when my parents had my tender fingers in their hands,
[1:33:54] and led me to the gates of the BAPS temple.
[1:33:57] I had entered a world of vivacious culture, and preserved heritage,
[1:34:01] a world of infiltration, unity, care, and love.
[1:34:05] By organizing countless charity events, BAPS cultivates character that sends them to the
[1:34:11] development of tomorrow's youth by emerging integrity, unity and state.
[1:34:16] Then there is a place of worship and a place of soul, a sad disregard, racial class, and
[1:34:22] other demographic lines and welcomes all.
[1:34:24] Thomas Payne has one said, the world is my country, all mankind are my brother, and to
[1:34:31] And God is my religion. In the same way, Monday, my second home has allowed me to discover
[1:34:37] my purpose in service that is a pivotal aspect of VAPS. As we have learned in today's
[1:34:42] presentation, just a few good points of the temple of reach of some day feet, and the
[1:34:47] mass of the temples, not below 42 feet. Above that height, our whole architectural features
[1:34:54] It's crucially representative of the image of God, without those as prayer scriptures, the temple is considered incomplete and worth an authentic worship is not possible.
[1:35:05] It is a logical to hastily generalize that the temple of block views in cause traffic.
[1:35:10] First, the visual impact study revealed most significant concerns with views.
[1:35:15] The sad pillar reached a 178 feet of only two inches in diameter, something virtually invisible from nearby neighborhoods.
[1:35:22] The temple was served as a symbol of religious and architectural consistency with the city.
[1:35:29] Second, many of us in the audience have seen that traffic road has never been an issue.
[1:35:35] The height of the 20-ups, sorry, the height of the 42 feet is so unoccupied.
[1:35:40] Or as Mr. Bennett pointed out, then habitable, some habitable.
[1:35:44] And the mall caused an increase in traffic whatsoever.
[1:35:47] So let me on my comments tonight by saying that the city council should approve this project
[1:35:52] because there is white support from the community and because there is simply a no significant impact
[1:35:57] of youth or traffic whatsoever.
[1:36:00] The founding of deals of our nation are emblematic of the faith we have in our individual beliefs and ways of life.
[1:36:06] The concept is nothing new as its application has been embraced ever since the Puritans set foot in America
[1:36:12] to freely express their faith.
[1:36:15] After then came many more who sought liberty, and so freedom was finally coined an ink in our constitution.
[1:36:21] We have faith in the freedom that our country promises to uphold.
[1:36:26] Why?
[1:36:27] Because we know that.
[1:36:29] Yes.
[1:36:29] Because of God we trust.
[1:36:31] Thank you.
[1:36:31] Thank you.
[1:36:40] Good evening, Mayor.
[1:36:41] Thank you.
[1:36:43] Thank you.
[1:36:43] My name is Linda.
[1:36:44] I would like to express my strongest support for the construction and completion of the
[1:36:49] B.A.P.L.M.D.R.
[1:36:51] I threw the temple numerous times, and was very, very impressed by the cayenne people I met,
[1:36:58] the girl's initial statement, the temple grounds, and beautiful architecture,
[1:37:03] but the expand will be a masterpiece for our community.
[1:37:06] I strongly believe that the completion of the fire will only add to the architectural beauty of the complex.
[1:37:13] Once completed, it will be a showroom example of religious tolerance and harmony within our diverse community.
[1:37:20] Travel anywhere in the world, as a tourist, and what is it that you are attracted to and you take pictures of.
[1:37:27] People are drawn to the buildings, particularly the structures that have been built for the beginning of time for the worship of God.
[1:37:35] No matter what culture, place, or time, it is these places of worship that people are fascinated and drawn to.
[1:37:43] We should be proud to have the temple stand here in our community.
[1:37:46] Not only does the fight provide a peaceful place for worship and prayer, but the temple and cultural center
[1:37:52] in which is the study in families, the Chino Hills.
[1:37:56] We should welcome the opportunity to embrace religious and cultural diversity in our community.
[1:38:01] The temple and complex allows for a place in worship, and the members are actively benefiting
[1:38:06] and supporting the community with such activities as health fairs, walk-of-arms, and blood drives.
[1:38:12] those scriptures require volunteers and in the community. Please grant them the
[1:38:18] code amendment that they need so they can build their temple according to
[1:38:21] their scriptures.
[1:38:29] Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of the City Council, my name is Carlos Baumgartner.
[1:38:33] I've been a resident of China Hills for 19 years and I'm here in support of the
[1:38:37] Baff's Project. Some of them recently wondered out loud why it is that we're here
[1:38:43] And the answer came to me over the weekend, we had heard about witness to you having the opportunity to say thank you to BAPs for their cooperation for their good citizenship, for their willingness to cooperate with the city in helping to facilitate your being able to build this very structure that we're in tonight.
[1:39:03] At the time of the initiative, there were no high restrictions for the site, even though the city was made aware of the applicant's construction requirements.
[1:39:12] However, the site offered as an alternative by the city and ultimately selected does have limitations which may be dealt with through approval of the DCA.
[1:39:20] So, light, you have the opportunity to clear the air in this matter and do what's right for Chino Hills and for a group that is clearly extended its hand in friendship with the city at every step in the process.
[1:39:31] Your planning commission supports this application, your city staff supports the application,
[1:39:38] many members of the community support the application as well, which is simply to complete a labor of love
[1:39:43] and devotion undertaken by a group of people who want to exercise their faith.
[1:39:48] With a facility being built as a testament to man's devotion to God and belief in the sanctity of life through peaceful charitable pursuits,
[1:39:56] the best facilities and enhancement to our city. So tonight, I'm certain that you'll
[1:40:01] do the right thing. The further the final step of the construction process is the greatest
[1:40:05] thank you possible. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:40:12] Thank you for this opportunity. Thank you for this opportunity.
[1:40:17] I am Martha Bongarten, his lesser half maybe. I urge you approval this evening as a proposed
[1:40:24] development code amendment. My detailed rationale was shared in a
[1:40:28] letter to city council last week. I appreciate the time you spent
[1:40:31] reviewing those comments. I'd like to use my time tonight to
[1:40:35] reinforce just three key points relating to the proposed DCA.
[1:40:40] Firstly, such a DCA is among the routine planning processes.
[1:40:44] The commonly allowed cities to operate in adaptive growth. As
[1:40:47] much, there's nothing extraordinary or abnormal about this DCA.
[1:40:51] Our possible commonly cited objections have been overcome through exhaustive due diligence on part of the city staff and the panic commission as well as BAPS development.
[1:41:02] And thank you, I'd like to praise the staff and the panic commission as well, amazing work.
[1:41:08] Secondly, variances, development code amendments, zoneswats and other modifications have been performed consistently in the past.
[1:41:16] In fact, we all know that a combination of these tools was responsible for this beautiful
[1:41:21] city facility.
[1:41:24] Finally, let's recognize that the city utilized four or five such entitlement processes
[1:41:29] to accomplish the shop's development.
[1:41:32] It begs the question, why should it be either difficult or, as some have purported, controversial
[1:41:39] to pass just one relatively modest development code amendment to accommodate a religious facility.
[1:41:48] That very question seemed to be on the mind of a gentleman who joined me at a recent BAPS Openhouse.
[1:41:54] He grew up here in Channel Hills, but doesn't make a home as often as he'd like.
[1:41:59] He's been doing a live travel over the last 10 years.
[1:42:02] One of his trips took him to the Temple Mountain Jerusalem. Not that long ago.
[1:42:07] He compared his experience during the Mondaire and the Hoverley, to a very favorable way
[1:42:13] to what must have been a truly remarkable experience in Jerusalem at the Temple Mount.
[1:42:19] Benjamin happens to be a US Army Ranger and a veteran of 10 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
[1:42:26] He's a graduate of Iowa High School.
[1:42:29] He's awesome dear friends, some of them recently, and has made many personal sacrifices
[1:42:34] as you can imagine.
[1:42:38] It's been no picnic for us either.
[1:42:41] You see, he also happens to be our son.
[1:42:44] It seems to shame to consider all that personal sacrifice
[1:42:48] and loss of life to secure freedoms for people
[1:42:50] have a world away that we face any possibility
[1:42:54] no matter how remote.
[1:42:56] That such basic freedoms could be denied
[1:42:58] to beloved friends and neighbors.
[1:43:01] Right here in Chinohills.
[1:43:02] over nothing more than a routine development code amendment.
[1:43:07] Thank you very much.
[1:43:09] Thank you very
[1:43:14] much.
[1:43:15] Thank you very much.
[1:43:16] Thank you.
[1:43:17] Thank you very much.
[1:43:19] I do a mention.
[1:43:20] Mark about this in point.
[1:43:23] We have received the hundreds of letters of support and those against and we've met them all.
[1:43:30] Even though you may get an automatic reply from city staff, all of those are forwarded accounts of first.
[1:43:38] We agreed them.
[1:43:41] I try to respond as much as possible, but by last week, it got overwhelming.
[1:43:45] I cannot keep up.
[1:43:47] So, Jindo, that letter is, and your letter is to account.
[1:43:51] So, thank you for your input.
[1:43:56] Honorable Mayor and City Council members.
[1:43:58] My name is Michael Carter.
[1:43:59] I've lived in the city for 21 years, and I've enjoyed seeing the city grow and mature.
[1:44:06] This statement is being spoken to express my faux support for the development code amendment, submitted by the BAPS Swamy,
[1:44:15] Chevy Swaminarian, Mandir, and Cultural Center.
[1:44:18] As my day and hour in a major conservator protest and church known to some of you at 70th Venice,
[1:44:24] even I believe in religious fairness and equality.
[1:44:27] to the radar aspects of our city, our culture of diversity, and in light and flexibility
[1:44:33] that the city counts as utilized to accommodate requirements that satisfy economic
[1:44:38] social and safety of the city.
[1:44:41] As has been stated earlier, this existing Civic Center site, which was originally
[1:44:47] scheduled to be used by the BAPS organization, is in an institutional zone. The sites
[1:44:54] the B.O.P.S.W. offered an exchange where to be suitable for their development
[1:44:59] Thank you very much.
[1:45:01] Unfortunately, the current BAPF, the APF site, is not an institutional zone, hence the need for the DCA.
[1:45:11] The future of the Maria, as a percentage of the leverized structure that required the adoption of the DCA, are specifically minimal.
[1:45:20] as are elected officials, honoring your word which is at its core the definition of integrity
[1:45:30] is a vital importance to any society. The city offer properties to BAPS organization
[1:45:37] in exchange for the land that this civic center currently occupies. The city should honor
[1:45:45] It's agreement to provide a site suitable to the needs.
[1:45:51] As has been stated, in the end years of place of worship,
[1:45:54] the DCL brings fairness and equality to religious facilities
[1:45:58] that are not located in an institution's own.
[1:46:03] As has been stated, institution's own are limited in the city
[1:46:06] and once the doctor, they're very difficult to change.
[1:46:10] Therefore, I've been in consistency to the code
[1:46:12] by allowing architectural features, the non-extitioner zones
[1:46:18] and any circumstances is fair to our religions.
[1:46:23] An objective reading of the DCI clearly indicate that it's
[1:46:27] specifically narrows the requirements and significantly
[1:46:31] limits the number of properties that can fall under this amendment.
[1:46:35] On its own merit, the DCI is fair and protects the right
[1:46:40] relevant residents of this city. The DCL is limited to the architectural features of churches
[1:46:49] and religious facilities, homes, hotels, and apartment restaurants are not impacted. The
[1:46:57] City Planning Commission has approved the DCL after comprehensive analysis. I hope that
[1:47:03] the principle of integrity and the value of an objectivity near them enlightened approval
[1:47:09] of this DCA. Thank you.
[1:47:12] Thank you.
[1:47:16] Good evening, Mayor.
[1:47:17] Some of you council members and the audience.
[1:47:20] My name's Angela Peoples.
[1:47:21] I've been a citizen of Chinohells for about 20 years.
[1:47:26] Ten of those years spent in Fairfield Ranch.
[1:47:29] Everything I've wanted to say to the same dean has been said.
[1:47:31] I don't want to pick up too much time.
[1:47:33] I do want to say a couple of things.
[1:47:35] Thank you to the BAPS community for embracing me and embracing my family
[1:47:40] and some very good friends.
[1:47:42] They're my new family, my new friends.
[1:47:45] I've been a resident of South Africa.
[1:47:46] I've lived for 10 years.
[1:47:47] And when I looked at this, as I do with most things,
[1:47:51] I make decisions on.
[1:47:53] I look at it from both sides, the pros and the cons.
[1:47:55] Now, once have I ever jumped to the cons on this project.
[1:48:00] And I hope the people here tonight in opposition
[1:48:03] listened to everything and maybe attended
[1:48:06] one of the many open houses and changed their mind
[1:48:09] also. The main feature of this hall in the community in the BAPS community has been in ongoing
[1:48:20] for over two years and, like I said, I'm an resident of Fairfield Ranch, I've never experienced
[1:48:25] any kind of traffic problem. And I loved the building, I loved the people and I urge you
[1:48:32] to support and pass this. Thank you for your time. And thank you for the awesome job you guys do.
[1:48:37] I'm at this city in the way it's run and thank you to the planning commission.
[1:48:46] This is from Air City Council. I'm going to go and I'm going to Arizona Hills for 24 years
[1:48:51] to live in the Oak Ridge area. Most of what I was going to say is I've been said so that will limit me.
[1:49:00] I'd like to talk about some issues that came up. One that came up with a planning commission was
[1:49:05] why did why did the baffes continue in the building process when they had this code
[1:49:13] hampering them in the end?
[1:49:18] They took it on a handshake agreement that the city would get
[1:49:23] what they were looking for, this facility, the shops would get what they were looking for and they
[1:49:29] happen running and they were in the escrow first and now they threw the help of the city
[1:49:35] when come out to the agreement that they were who, they didn't get lawyers, they didn't
[1:49:42] fight, they were good neighbors. They said, okay, well, during all and finding new place,
[1:49:50] they went to a new place and they've been working cordially with the city from day one to work
[1:49:57] that never in a row of streams that they face, they think that they'd be facing this
[1:50:02] today, that they couldn't build what they wanted to build.
[1:50:06] Another issue that has been brought up is traffic, and I have to say, I'm a number of
[1:50:14] same power right here, and now that's a choice that holds 1800 people, and now we have eight
[1:50:21] services on the weekend.
[1:50:22] That's over 14,000 people that are dumping out into the streets of the center of Chino-Hose every weekend.
[1:50:32] You can't tell me that a facility that's going to hold a hundred and ten people is going to cause trouble.
[1:50:40] And finally, the height on the 7-1 quarter, the very height is minimal compared to what's being constructed there.
[1:50:49] If they had the opportunity to build their old man to your right here, where they originally
[1:50:55] would prepare to build, it would be dwarfed in size, the building and the height of the
[1:51:02] cross and some Paul would dwarfed their building.
[1:51:06] So what I'm asking is Grant and McCode Amendment.
[1:51:11] Treat them like they treat you.
[1:51:14] Treat others like you wouldn't have them treat you.
[1:51:17] Thank you.
[1:51:25] I have a camera, let's see if I can learn how to go and let's see if I can reach all you don't have to write for your name.
[1:51:32] Because I've seen that I'm deck chair.
[1:51:34] I'll give you some.
[1:51:36] Bill Taylor, Jane Hodgeson,
[1:51:40] Minor Mystery,
[1:51:43] David Tennis,
[1:51:45] Linda Tennis,
[1:51:48] Jennifer Isaac,
[1:51:49] Art Miranda,
[1:51:51] and Frank Welchman,
[1:51:55] How are you?
[1:51:57] How are you sir?
[1:52:01] Mr. Mayor, council members?
[1:52:03] My name is Mr. President Dovey.
[1:52:05] When I reside at 1596,
[1:52:08] I found Stanley in China House.
[1:52:10] I had been a resident of China House for over 11 years.
[1:52:14] We have grant, council members, all of you are aware.
[1:52:18] As a member of BAPS, I have been very involved with the BAPS Cultural Center
[1:52:22] and the Bender in China House since inception.
[1:52:26] Back in 2004, council approved a project but asked us to reduce the overall size of the moon there as a compromise.
[1:52:36] We compromised and today we are seeking their approval to allow us to complete the construction of the moon there,
[1:52:44] a place of worship as prescribed by the scriptures.
[1:52:49] Since the last program, a project has progressed well,
[1:52:53] the consciousness center of any particular museum
[1:52:56] classrooms are completed, all of whom have visited
[1:53:00] and have comprehended our dedication,
[1:53:05] a commitment, a place, and a devotion.
[1:53:08] Furthermore, as you are aware,
[1:53:10] over the last few years we have reform that what we will be saying all along.
[1:53:17] No traffic issue, no human impact, no thought on my advice, our places open to all,
[1:53:24] and the centre has been a focal point for various charitable works.
[1:53:30] Our city under your leadership has gone to be one of the final cities.
[1:53:34] In the past few years, Council has approved several zoning changes,
[1:53:40] code elements to accommodate various city initiative projects,
[1:53:45] including allowing 100-feet signs along the civil and corridor,
[1:53:50] and some false signs right in the midst of the city.
[1:53:54] I have attended several of those meetings near the Council,
[1:53:59] near the resident waste any concern about the traffic and view impact.
[1:54:04] Rightfully so, because cities would turn their way on the Chinese to accommodate city projects.
[1:54:12] A local, or human extent, our project application, the same consideration as city initiated
[1:54:20] project by city-worthy West tonight.
[1:54:23] Thank you very much.
[1:54:25] We
[1:54:30] have many here and council members, many many Benjamin Sanchez,
[1:54:34] I believe in the model on the multi-listing model of the back, space 1-3, as a class of
[1:54:40] the model of BAPS, I have first hand model of the situation of the ground, but I never
[1:54:47] saw traffic on the weekdays on the weekends.
[1:54:51] The temper on the Couture Center had a crate, a safer and nice as they were to live in
[1:54:56] for me from the final week.
[1:54:58] The compression on the temple, I'm sure it's not in fact my view of the city of the mountains to the south of the city.
[1:55:09] So I'm so proud to be here for you and have you support us.
[1:55:11] Thank you very much.
[1:55:18] I'm honored by Mayor and City Council members.
[1:55:21] Where to start on this?
[1:55:22] I mean, this is such a passionate issue for the community.
[1:55:26] My name's Bill Taylor, I'm going to keep it short.
[1:55:28] My colleagues have said so eloquently so many things. So well, I've lived in
[1:55:33] Chino Hills for ten years off of in less-terroneous ranch, off of
[1:55:37] Stokeville Canyon Road and every day I drive down the 71 and I pass by the new
[1:55:44] Hindu Hindu church in our neighborhood and whether it's on my way to work or
[1:55:49] whether it's on my way to our high school key club meetings or
[1:55:53] Communist meeting in the community or to my Sunday Church service at the Evangelical Church that I belong to just one exit over.
[1:56:02] I see this new temple all the time, and I support it being going forward.
[1:56:07] I wanted to say on the merits, I mean, the other, the very, the limited information that's been compiled on this, I can't see how on the merits this is denied.
[1:56:17] It just would not make sense to me, and it would feel like I think it would not make sense to the community.
[1:56:24] As I said, my neighbors have already said so much that I would have said so well.
[1:56:29] I did want to touch on one thing that I haven't heard articulated a lot.
[1:56:36] But I'm concerned about the long-term star, the longer-term scar that would be created if this amendment was not approved.
[1:56:47] Our Hindu neighbors aren't going anywhere, they're not going to band in the church.
[1:56:53] And what I'm thinking about is I live in this community is how it's going to be perceived,
[1:56:59] not just by the residents that aren't here, because there's more residents out there
[1:57:03] that are on the fence about this whole thing, about and about outsiders.
[1:57:10] And I don't want to wake up in a couple of days and see articles in the New York Times
[1:57:15] articles in the L.A. Times, painting our community as the perception being that it's intolerance
[1:57:24] that dictated this, and that we as a community hid behind what would be perceived as a
[1:57:31] fig leaf of a codependent. That's what I'm very fearful of, and that our kids are watching.
[1:57:37] Our young people are watching and every time that they will pass by this site in years to come,
[1:57:45] that there will be left, the community will be up with an aftertaste of hostility.
[1:57:51] However, however subtle that is, it will go into the long term and I think that would be the legacy of denying this amendment.
[1:57:58] So I support this. Thank you.
[1:58:07] Mayor and City Council members, I appreciate the opportunity to address you this evening.
[1:58:11] My name is Jennifer Isaac and I have been a resident of Chino Hills for a number of years as well as having the opportunity to work for the Chino Valley Unified School District.
[1:58:22] In the interest of time and out of respect for the other people that have points that they would like to make this evening, I will keep my remarks quite short.
[1:58:31] I understand that the Planning Commission voted in favor of the Development Code Amendment a
[1:58:39] number of weeks ago, and I would cast my vote in favor and ask the e-support their decision as well.
[1:58:45] And you're yes vote this evening in support of this amendment.
[1:58:57] Good evening, City Council members and staff, my name is Linda Tannies.
[1:59:02] And I'm here, of course, to support the BAP's temple.
[1:59:07] Pretty much everyone said what I was going to say,
[1:59:09] but there's just a few points that I'll reiterate.
[1:59:13] I'd like to say that we need to remember that 94% of the temple
[1:59:19] will be below 42 feet, which is now allowed.
[1:59:23] And only the tallest there will be 78 height, 78 feet in height.
[1:59:28] And as further fear that other religions will come to Chino-Hills if we grant them this amendment,
[1:59:37] that's not really a valid argument.
[1:59:40] Right now, any religious, any religious group can buy property and build a religious facility right here right now in Chino-Hills.
[1:59:48] This amendment will not change that ruling at all.
[1:59:52] Another myth to dispel is that all Hindus will be coming over to Chino-Hills to visit the temple.
[1:59:58] That's it!
[2:00:00] As we've learned temple is only one small sector of the Hindu religion, and it will not attract other worshipers because they do not practice the same set.
[2:00:12] I sincerely hope that all of you will make the correct legal decision and moral decision. The BAPS, they're just a wonderful asset to our community and they should be given the same rights as any other religious groups.
[2:00:27] Thank you for your attention on this matter.
[2:00:35] Good evening council members and staff.
[2:00:38] I'm Dave Tennis, an active member of the community living here since 1985.
[2:00:44] I'm in favor of the card amendment.
[2:00:47] There are a couple of points I'd like to make that they had not been touched on.
[2:00:51] The city's change in many ways since it was foreign.
[2:00:54] As I elected representatives, you're responsible for keeping up with and embracing these changes.
[2:01:01] These include the city rapidly becoming more ethically diverse, religiously diverse, politically, social, and economically diverse.
[2:01:12] Further, the Council has continued to be a proponent of change.
[2:01:17] Just look at all the code changes and amendments that we've talked about tonight that you've already approved.
[2:01:23] To
[2:01:27] the backspample, there are over 30 California cities that have already approved and completed
[2:01:33] Hindu temples in their cities.
[2:01:35] Several of these temples are much grander and taller than the one being posed here
[2:01:39] tonight.
[2:01:42] Another point I'd like to make, when you took an old the oath of office that you're serving
[2:01:47] here tonight, you swore to uphold the laws of the United States.
[2:01:52] I hope before you, a copy of Public Lach,
[2:02:00] Lennon 6274, Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act,
[2:02:06] referred to as RIUIPA, which was signed in the law on September 22, 2000.
[2:02:14] The law was passed by both houses by unanimous consent in various quotes and no objections were made.
[2:02:20] It gives religious plan donors a special right that challenge land use laws, but their
[2:02:25] secular neighbors, which their secular neighbors do not have.
[2:02:30] Even if a zoning law is varied of discrimination, the court reviewing a challenge will
[2:02:35] apply strict scrutiny to the city's regulation.
[2:02:40] The further gets churches and other institutions a way to avoid burdensome restrictions
[2:02:45] on the paper to use. So your vote tonight is in support. I'm an existing federal law, hopefully
[2:02:52] you'll all approve it. I ask you all to unanimously approve this amendment. Thank you very much.
[2:02:59] Thank you.
[2:03:05] Mayor, City Council. My name is Jean Hobson. I've lived here for 39 years. I love
[2:03:10] Jean Hobson. I would hate to say I came from Jean Hobson if you do not approve this. I would be
[2:03:15] bears because the temple has done such beautiful things for our community for everyone
[2:03:21] that they come in contact with.
[2:03:23] They are loving people, kind people, but else could be asked in our community, so please
[2:03:28] help you get up in your hearts and pass this for Chino Hills.
[2:03:33] Thank you for your time.
[2:03:34] Thank you.
[2:03:40] Good evening, Honorable Mayor and members of the City Council.
[2:03:43] My name is Neil Misree and I have been a proud resident of Chino Hills for over 15 years.
[2:03:47] Three of the years I've seen tremendous growth in changing the city, from the housing
[2:03:52] boom to the growth in businesses to the ever changing diversity of my neighbors.
[2:03:58] I've seen a note that different today than when I first got incorporated, but I
[2:04:01] hope one thing remains the same. The openness I felt when I first moved in here. The openness
[2:04:06] to change the openness to growth, but most importantly the openness to accept diversity.
[2:04:13] I wanted to thank all of you today to allow me to speak for a very important cause that is close to my heart.
[2:04:19] Growing up in Indiana, America, my parents raised me to be the person I am today.
[2:04:24] Giving me the opportunity to hold on to my heritage, culture, and religion.
[2:04:29] Today, having our own children living here in Chino Hills.
[2:04:32] Listen up there, traditionally when they are right here at home, we will give me the privilege to pass on to my kids the same culture
[2:04:39] and heritage that has been preserved in me and my family.
[2:04:44] That's surprising that the city has taken what's long to consider such a great asset to our community.
[2:04:50] Now the staff and applicant did an excellent job in presenting thoroughly what the BAPS project entails.
[2:04:56] And I believe we're through those presentations. It is evident that on its own merits,
[2:05:02] the developmental co-ind Amendment is fair and it does protect the rights of the residents of this community.
[2:05:06] I know a lot of specifics have already been discussed so I don't want to go into that, but I see no reason
[2:05:13] how this code amendment will have such great impact that it will cause so much havoc in the city's development.
[2:05:20] China was a great city to live in. The development code amendment before you has been recommended by the Planning Commission,
[2:05:27] the city's professional and competent city staff. I want to leave you with a thought I recently heard.
[2:05:33] Faith is not to have a perfect understanding, but to have faith in those things that you do not see.
[2:05:40] I hope you will do what is best for our community and approve the completion of this Monday.
[2:05:45] The heart of this beautiful creation.
[2:05:47] Thank you for your time.
[2:05:49] Thank you.
[2:05:53] All right, Mary, you are a hopeless group.
[2:05:56] I am a 55 miles into it right now.
[2:06:01] So, about five months, I'll pro-task them on me.
[2:06:05] Here's a lesson.
[2:06:07] Okay, let's go with Paul Howard, a Kiel Gupta, Marissa Larson, Barry Fisher, Georgia Baker,
[2:06:17] Mike Krieger, and Gary Larson.
[2:06:22] Whoa, good evening, Mayor.
[2:06:24] City Council member.
[2:06:24] Oh, Mike, that please?
[2:06:26] Yes, sir.
[2:06:27] My name is Frank Rochon, I'm speaking as a resident of Fairford Ranch.
[2:06:30] I'm also a basketball coach.
[2:06:32] And I have a couple of my kids here to show their support, who it's not too late for, and numerous
[2:06:37] amount of parents as well, who are supporting the BAPS community as well, and I'm representing them
[2:06:43] also.
[2:06:45] I'm a volunteer for a various organizations like National Junior Basketball, A.Y.I.S.
[2:06:49] Salker, Chino Hillsboro, Softball, and the Letta B Foundation.
[2:06:53] I feel it's very important to get back to the community, and this is why I'm here today.
[2:06:57] That's has been a valuable member of the community for the past few years.
[2:07:02] I've attended numerous open house events who have drives and I've personally seen the positive impact on the community.
[2:07:08] That has opened their gym to my NJB team, offering us a safe environment to practice
[2:07:12] while schools and other local organizations have cut back on the programs we've been offered.
[2:07:17] All this has been offered to me, regardless of my race or religion.
[2:07:21] I also want to talk about another issue, there is more of a non-issue, and some other setting when you think about it, the traffic.
[2:07:28] Again, I'm a resident of the Fairfield Branch Community, and I'd live there since the
[2:07:31] House's were first built over 10 years ago.
[2:07:34] I was there before Big League dreams was built and before the temple was being built.
[2:07:38] There were two main fillet offerings that you can access the temple from,
[2:07:41] Chino-Hus Parkway and Circle Canyon Central.
[2:07:44] I've traveled these roads at least two to three times a day,
[2:07:48] and in the past 10 years since I've been there during construction of the temple,
[2:07:51] and since there's been regular service there on a weekly basis,
[2:07:54] There's been no noticeable increase of traffic going to the temple.
[2:07:59] Even during their open house events, health fairs and other religious events,
[2:08:02] I have noticed no traffic.
[2:08:04] In fact, the only way, you know there's something going on
[2:08:07] is by the flyers or other promotional efforts that the temple does.
[2:08:11] And even after the traffic surveys have been completed,
[2:08:14] stating that traffic will not increase,
[2:08:16] there's still concern about traffic.
[2:08:18] One here to tell you, I have not seen an increase of traffic due to the temple.
[2:08:22] The upsetting thing about all this fuss is a traffic that I have seen, the traffic from
[2:08:27] Big League Dreams.
[2:08:29] And again, I was here before anything was built before Big League Dreams was built.
[2:08:33] There was never much concern about traffic, not even close.
[2:08:37] No one was concerned about how traffic would affect the community, but there's not a
[2:08:42] period of time that goes by right on here.
[2:08:44] Some type of emergency vehicle racing down Fairfield Ranch to get to Big League Dreams.
[2:08:48] And this is sometimes at 9-10 or even 11 o'clock at night.
[2:08:51] away from you from my sleep. No one cared then. And not to mention the highest world series
[2:08:56] of parades that take place a few times a year, taking me more than 30 minutes to travel
[2:09:01] less than one mile from my house to Central Avenue. Again, no one cared. I understand that
[2:09:07] they agree dreams of their for the community, and I will accept the consistent traffic related
[2:09:10] to Bigly Dreams because of the positive effects that it has on the community. But it is unfair
[2:09:15] to places unwarranted, blame a traffic on baps when traffic related to Bigly Dreams is so much worse.
[2:09:21] I don't understand why the two projects in such close proximity are treated so different.
[2:09:26] I want to wrap that up with a question that my webinar has done asked me. He said,
[2:09:30] Dad, the temple looks so nice and they, the baths members are so nice to us. Why are they having trouble
[2:09:37] building a temple? Thank you very much.
[2:09:39] Thank you very much.
[2:09:40] Thank you very much.
[2:09:40] Thank you for your
[2:09:49] time.
[2:09:52] I'm kind of speak of the line because I'm just part of the same overall.
[2:09:56] My name is Jonathan Paula, and the reason I'm here tonight,
[2:10:03] I'm also part of NJB, I'm one of their travel
[2:10:06] approaches, and I also am the program director for their travel programs.
[2:10:12] I am a private resident of China Hills.
[2:10:14] I have two young children who are growing up here, 11 and 13.
[2:10:18] This world for me that intersects with bats that got me in the day and supported them.
[2:10:24] Honestly, you know, I started back with my Sammas in third grade.
[2:10:29] I was in the stand just watching his basketball game.
[2:10:32] And I somehow, between the beginning of the game and the end of the game, I hear a voice,
[2:10:37] they said, you know, stop complaining or do something about it.
[2:10:42] So, that's my nightmare. I turn around and look.
[2:10:44] And of course, this came from my lovely wife.
[2:10:48] So there, I searched myself, you know what?
[2:10:52] I looked at her, I said, I will do something about it.
[2:10:54] And from that point on, I decided that I was going to take my time
[2:10:59] and coach the kids in Chinatows and teach them basketball.
[2:11:02] The way I love the game, and I was going to make them best
[2:11:04] basketball players in this whole entire valley.
[2:11:08] And that has continued on for me.
[2:11:11] And now is the program director.
[2:11:12] I have received a program, it is a large program, one of the biggest chapters, and I am not going to
[2:11:20] find, I am not going to argue, the merits of the technical things that are in front of you today, but I just wanted to tell you from a
[2:11:27] young man perspective, and hopefully to help you out the collective judgment of the council that you will see that, whether it is the
[2:11:35] And the years, or the 78 feet, I think from most of us as a resident, I just want to know that the things that are being built in the city are going to be safer our kids.
[2:11:47] As a father and two children, so it is always the foremost thing is a father.
[2:11:53] And for them, wherever we go, where it's packed is at the temple, we feel safer.
[2:12:00] They are open to Burst, to us from the very beginning to years ago.
[2:12:05] They opened up, they did not ask us where I am running.
[2:12:08] But we needed help.
[2:12:10] We simply lost the practice venue that was available to us, right before our season started.
[2:12:15] And somebody knew and heard about the tempo, took me over to the location that evening.
[2:12:20] I spoke to Peter Batell for the first time.
[2:12:23] He went to their committee right away, told them about our situation.
[2:12:26] And they opened their gym, we literally pulled the plastic off of that floor and they opened it up to us about any charge of whatsoever.
[2:12:36] And we are completely grateful.
[2:12:37] It has been, um, it is better we practice outside of the rain.
[2:12:42] So we are grateful to the BAPS number for opening up the facilities to us.
[2:12:47] They have been nothing but gracious to the family.
[2:12:49] The parents are very happy that they will have to wrap that our safe.
[2:12:53] So I just want to say that I hope you will go, yes, on this.
[2:12:56] I can take it.
[2:13:05] We are growing in the city council.
[2:13:08] I'm thankful to be here to speak.
[2:13:09] You're probably growing down by now.
[2:13:11] I can see it.
[2:13:12] And there's a lot of people that are very passionate about this cause.
[2:13:15] So I'm going to try to really keep it pretty.
[2:13:17] Basically, I have two of those amongst the nature.
[2:13:20] Outrenda, for for branch.
[2:13:22] Originally, for for branch, I'm only a toy boat.
[2:13:25] So consequently, I have the opportunity to visit with people.
[2:13:29] I didn't like community roar.
[2:13:30] One of two communities that are most affected by the BAPS program and organization, I can tell firsthand everything that's already been said so I won't.
[2:13:40] I'm thrilled and I love cheering for hers and I know that it's a place that it is today because of the government that's in place now in the government that was before you.
[2:13:49] I watch you guys and you guys do the heavy lifting for us, so I appreciate all the work that you guys do.
[2:13:54] So I just want to voice my support for the Vaps program.
[2:14:00] And hope that you guys continue to do the great work.
[2:14:01] You guys always have. Thank you.
[2:14:03] Thank you.
[2:14:04] Thank you.
[2:14:09] Good evening Mr. Mayor.
[2:14:10] Thank you.
[2:14:10] I'm Mr. Joe Chat, thank you.
[2:14:12] I've been living in Chinohills for 21 years.
[2:14:15] I love Chinohills.
[2:14:17] I walk the park.
[2:14:19] I've been looking at the way to be building the Vaps sample.
[2:14:22] And I've gone to their open houses.
[2:14:24] I look forward from the floor.
[2:14:26] I think it's exciting that we have pink,
[2:14:29] or our marble coming in and building absolutely gorgeous structure
[2:14:33] that can only enhance the beauty of our community.
[2:14:36] And I hope that you will vote yes.
[2:14:39] Thank you.
[2:14:40] Thank you.
[2:14:40] Thank you.
[2:14:45] Good evening, Mayor Red.
[2:14:46] Good evening, Mayor Red.
[2:14:47] You're welcome.
[2:14:49] I'm here to make a surprise.
[2:14:52] I'm here to make a surprise.
[2:14:52] I know that a lot of people, I just wanted to stand up here
[2:14:56] I think that it's important that the best.
[2:15:00] We have their opportunity to worship the way they feel like that they would like to. Each of us have that same opportunity, and this community has always been there for everybody. In fact, many times, when I was on the council, I took different ministers around and showed them pieces of property and said, you know, we welcome religious facilities, because the beauty and not only that, but the calmness that they bring to the community cannot be major in anyone.
[2:15:30] shape or form. And as a city council, we voted back in 2004 through the view of there with me,
[2:15:39] and we voted for the opportunity for them to build except for their height. Now's the time
[2:15:46] to give them their height and let them worship the way they desire. Thank you.
[2:15:50] Thank you Mr. Lawson.
[2:15:56] I wrote there.
[2:15:57] I don't even have it.
[2:15:58] We're so brief in the council meetings.
[2:16:03] That was very special.
[2:16:08] So my name is Akira Gupta.
[2:16:10] I'm the former student member of the Parks and Recreation Commission for the City of
[2:16:13] Chinophils for the past year.
[2:16:15] And I've been following this issue from the onset.
[2:16:17] And a lot of people have come before me, so I'll keep,
[2:16:20] I've put perhaps a new perspective.
[2:16:22] From a use viewpoint, I believe that the BAPS Temple provides many benefits and opportunities
[2:16:27] for young adults and teenagers of all backgrounds.
[2:16:31] The Continental Temple will add a certain cultural value to a community and expose us
[2:16:35] to teens to new ideas and different backgrounds.
[2:16:38] The Temple does not necessarily serve the Hindu population.
[2:16:41] It serves the human community.
[2:16:42] It hosts free health-verses, as mentioned before, in education seminars in which teens such
[2:16:47] myself, I've gone and will continue to go to learn about college application process and
[2:16:53] the STT testing. It even provides leadership opportunities for young adults such as myself
[2:16:59] through the numerous opportunities for volunteer.
[2:17:04] I'd like to share with you an anecdote
[2:17:06] that Melan just shared with me and she told me that about 10 years ago, I don't remember
[2:17:11] But she told me that I used to ask other families, my friends, used to go to church on Sundays.
[2:17:20] And I would ask, why don't we go to church and temple?
[2:17:23] Well, she would mention that, because there isn't one nearby.
[2:17:26] And I believe that addition in the granting of the development of the government,
[2:17:30] will grant future children, children of mine and future generations,
[2:17:35] the liberty of continuous to go to this beautiful temple.
[2:17:38] And having reviewed all the issues, it is appropriate for the Council to prove that the
[2:17:43] development could not be meant, because the city staff has recommended approval.
[2:17:47] The planning commission has recommended approval, and the community who are part of the
[2:17:53] recommendation approval, and there is no legal or discretionary reason to deny the development
[2:17:58] code number.
[2:17:59] Thank you.
[2:18:00] Thank you, Mr. President.
[2:18:01] Thank you, Mr. President.
[2:18:04] I respond to an announcement before Barry starts talking that
[2:18:08] Key of the gentleman just spoke was named youth community hero for
[2:18:11] Chino Hills in 2011, and he will be honored on September 23rd of the
[2:18:17] I.
[2:18:27] He's also a little kind of judge by the University.
[2:18:29] He's a credit to the state, the city, and everything that's
[2:18:32] stands for in Chino Hills.
[2:18:34] I hope that's not probably a few minutes.
[2:18:41] The very first buildings in America were churches and meeting halls, built from the halls of the ships that brought the pilgrims over.
[2:18:50] I have attended weddings in some of these churches that are still standing.
[2:18:54] Ten years ago there were four entities and five sites involved in this complex situation.
[2:19:00] To those of you who are of set with the temple being on Fairfield Ranch Road and the 71 freeway,
[2:19:07] it could have been right here in the middle of downtown China Hills, and in the middle
[2:19:11] of the main case would have been very expensive and was not a guarantee as it was not a safety
[2:19:17] issue but rather a location choice.
[2:19:20] It was the city that helped the back style of the current location leading them to believe
[2:19:26] that all that they had with regard to the landscape was included in the landscape.
[2:19:30] Our parties to the various swaps did what they said. It was only in the twelve-fowler that the city
[2:19:36] unfortunately were named on its word handshake and commitment that brings us here today.
[2:19:42] Additionally, the seventy-eight-foot height request that is a precise measurement between the highest
[2:19:47] point of the building and the size of the representation of their deity inside the temple. You
[2:19:53] could say that the scriptures are allowed with their architects in building the temple, according
[2:19:58] to their word from God, and also is commanded by the First Amendment of the Constitution.
[2:20:05] I love the two of you served honorably for the course of freedom in Vietnam, and well
[2:20:10] of you has a son who served honorably for the course of freedom in Iraq, Afghanistan,
[2:20:14] wars, and is still involved in fight against terrorism.
[2:20:18] I look at the words that you recently put on your will in God we trust, all of by those
[2:20:24] words every day. I hope that you do too, and that it is a city of national model, and
[2:20:31] not just the slogan. I request urgent employer to accept the staff recommendations to
[2:20:37] approve the DAPS Temple and build it to its sanctified requirements. You are not really
[2:20:42] giving them anything, but they didn't already have. Thank you.
[2:20:54] My name is Miguel Sentevanas. I've been living in the city of Chinohols for the last five years and I've seen the
[2:21:02] Bap's temple being built and I think it's a very beautiful temple and I
[2:21:09] I would hope that you would like let them build this as high as they would you know
[2:21:14] As I can say everybody else has said, you know what I wanted to say so thank you so much and have a nice night
[2:21:25] I'm going to come off the next time and I'm not.
[2:21:28] Okay.
[2:21:29] Good evening, your grandend test members.
[2:21:31] My name is Mike Craig, I'm the resident of Damon Butterfield, Lance here in the city.
[2:21:36] And I just want to come up tonight to publicly various my support for the Vap's project on behalf of my staff and my family.
[2:21:42] Thank you.
[2:21:44] Thank you.
[2:21:48] Will I clear or Mr. Patel is going to be on time or something properly?
[2:21:53] Yes, it appears I mean based on what we've heard so far it looks like that they're going to start basically repeating themselves in support of the project
[2:22:01] What the organization is proposing and and we hope this is this is acceptable with the city is we're going to ask all of our supporters who are in support of project
[2:22:08] To raise the rise and if we're willing to wave the right to speak I know there are 200 cards supporting
[2:22:12] We're going to ask them to stand up and of course if everyone does stand up and we also know that if anyone does not want to wave and would like to come up
[2:22:20] Then they can they can have that right as well. That's okay with the council. That's what we'd like that's what we propose
[2:22:25] All right, thank you very much. So we ran through three three if you submit a speech through five
[2:22:31] And you're not spoken you like a labor right should you stand?
[2:22:39] So we just see who you are
[2:22:40] It is in this part of the audience
[2:22:45] All right, thank you
[2:22:48] Is there anyone left out the 100 and
[2:22:52] 70 this is our personal
[2:22:55] that has a brilliant desire to say something, and everybody will yell at you, all right,
[2:23:03] they come to us, maybe.
[2:23:14] So this is a brilliant conversation.
[2:23:17] All right.
[2:23:18] Good evening Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council. My name is Wendy Silva. I was a former
[2:23:22] student at Chinatown High. Thank you in advance for your time.
[2:23:28] Really my experience with the BAP's PS Temple has been pretty brief, but it is nonetheless
[2:23:35] had a very profound impact on me and I'd like to share with you my own experience and even
[2:23:39] though it may not be much, I do hope that it offers a little bit of insight into the value
[2:23:44] of this project. At she was high I was on the cross country team for three years and during practice
[2:23:51] we'd run by the Temple at least once or twice a week and you know as we run by the Temple
[2:23:56] I got to see it from the outside, but just less than two months ago, I was invited to have dinner there and that's when I was exposed to incredibly warm and inviting people who made me feel at home instantly in a place I really did not know.
[2:24:10] I was introduced to a really traditional Indian food for the first time in my life, which if you haven't tried yet, I highly recommend.
[2:24:18] I was exposed to absolutely gorgeous architecture and to just wonderful and pure ideals
[2:24:25] like family integrity, respect and unity.
[2:24:28] And that's when I realized what a shame it was that I had been lying by this temple completely oblivious
[2:24:33] for three years, completely oblivious to just the beauty that lay inside.
[2:24:37] And that's probably the attitude that most people in Shinohol's have towards the temple.
[2:24:41] They drive on the 71 and they see this building, but they really do not realize
[2:24:44] They really do not understand just how beautiful it is and so my greatest hope is that with the help of this project
[2:24:51] BPS will reach out to others in channel health. Just as it has done so with me because really it has just so much to offer to the city and
[2:24:59] No matter what I say I can never do justice. Thank you
[2:25:19] I'm sorry Greg Grimm, I've lived in channels for 28 years on Ivory Court, and I just want
[2:25:24] to say briefly, I can, we'll see their temple, consider temple for my backyard, I'm looking
[2:25:30] forward to it.
[2:25:31] But the only thing that hasn't been said today is, I'm going to thank the BAP's community
[2:25:34] for picking genophils.
[2:25:36] Thank you very much.
[2:25:47] And the cousin members, my name is Dr. Maheshvias, I've been practicing in genophils for 20
[2:25:51] years, low facility, and my patients have learned me back.
[2:25:55] My connection to Baths is goes back to when I was two years old and helped my gun feathers
[2:26:01] finger and walked to the Baths' temples in India.
[2:26:04] I visited many, many temples in India and what struck me the most was the beauty of the temples.
[2:26:11] Especially with the Baths' temple in India.
[2:26:13] And I think the temple, the beauty it will create here will be phenomenal, put chinahirs on the map.
[2:26:20] Something about the beauty that it has to be in proportion.
[2:26:22] And I can imagine I felt I would be 50 feet shorter or 5 miles with not the proper dome.
[2:26:30] Well, I feel the bus temple in Delhi is much prettier than 5 miles.
[2:26:35] So, I hope you will consider the court amendment. Thank you very much.
[2:26:38] Thank you.
[2:26:44] All right.
[2:26:48] Is it a shock?
[2:26:50] My name is Dr. Zayshul Yas, I'm his better half.
[2:26:53] And I brought to so busy wine and I've been practicing in this city for about 20 years and I love the city very much.
[2:27:02] One day I think everybody has spoken with everything which I think you need to hear.
[2:27:07] However, I just want to say a couple of times.
[2:27:10] So, usually, it's pretty chilly, the way they are, they are sort of fighting with everyone.
[2:27:15] for the public and spiritual way, corporate life, their health, that's the community, and that's the approach we have taken.
[2:27:24] If they don't welcome better approach or a partner, that's something that they are not giving back to the community.
[2:27:30] So, if you really, it's not just because it's bad, it's not because it's not because it's for a religion or a partner.
[2:27:36] If you have the approaches, you may roll your eyes out to the tears.
[2:27:43] And if you're afraid of it, all of the cries are wild.
[2:27:46] All of these bad people have to go together to do.
[2:27:50] Don't support this.
[2:27:51] It's not a much more of this bad thing.
[2:27:53] Well, I don't know if you're not worried about something like that.
[2:27:56] Of course, for the world, wherever it is, and wherever it is,
[2:28:00] and wherever it is, and wherever it is, and wherever it is,
[2:28:02] It's going to be a trampoline.
[2:28:04] All the directors here are going to have to do it.
[2:28:06] One of them are going to have to work today.
[2:28:08] They're just going to have to do it.
[2:28:10] It's just going to work today.
[2:28:12] Thank you.
[2:28:12] Thank you.
[2:28:17] That's that session.
[2:28:20] Yeah.
[2:28:20] And we've checked with everybody outside.
[2:28:23] We're good.
[2:28:24] Thank you.
[2:28:25] Mr. Patel?
[2:28:26] Yeah.
[2:28:26] Okay.
[2:28:27] Now we have the speakers in opposition.
[2:28:30] The first is Wilma Brian.
[2:28:38] You might be outside.
[2:28:39] Here's a second one.
[2:28:40] Second one is Jill Alanya?
[2:28:42] Fair enough for my purpose.
[2:28:48] No, there's an opposition.
[2:28:53] Okay, my name is Jill Alanya.
[2:28:56] My living team was on Sunday, Medellin.
[2:28:59] And first, I do want to thank the city staff,
[2:29:02] our city council, Mayor Graham.
[2:29:05] And in the depths, people that have worked very hard.
[2:29:08] I know that you have worked very hard on this.
[2:29:13] Well, honestly, city here tonight, I am speechless.
[2:29:17] And that's a bit of what I think is the problem. Back in 2004 I worked with the leadership
[2:29:26] that opposed the temple. And since that time I think that's just done a very nice job
[2:29:32] of making friends in the community.
[2:29:36] I actually have become friends with Peter Pethel myself
[2:29:38] and I have told Peter many times in the last several years that I would not try to lead any effort
[2:29:44] against the backs, if they compromise,
[2:29:50] and I've been told that they have compromised in
[2:29:53] this new plan, but I must admit that I don't see what their compromise is.
[2:29:59] Let's go see the...
[2:30:00] Public hearing, aye, abstain, request. And when I look at the images that I had to pay 94 to get, that I still fear that many people in our community have not seen, I further represent those people that I've speaks with here tonight. I feel that we've been drowned out. And so I look at the 79 as the 4th to China has, and we've been asked to change the zone.
[2:30:30] and the high restrictions on 10 properties, at least three or four of which become very
[2:30:36] inviting to churches and religious structures. And I don't think I've ever seen a public
[2:30:43] outpouring requesting this. And that's part of my challenge with what's being asked of us tonight.
[2:30:52] So my request to the council and it's a difficult request in the face of all the
[2:30:59] opposition is that you give the rest of the team who is the same opportunity to understand
[2:31:09] what's been done here because it is permanent, once it started, one go back and I don't
[2:31:16] feel that that opportunity has been given. I think it's been, I didn't try to publicize
[2:31:22] anything against human heroes or talk to a lot of people against this project. And I think
[2:31:29] I've been a very good job of gathering community support, and I think there's just as large
[2:31:36] if not a much larger value of citizens here that don't feel the same way that most people
[2:31:43] in this room do tonight.
[2:31:44] And that's the, those are the people that I am requesting on here we have.
[2:31:50] But you, the lowest, the least chance to see it, I think that it could have been done much
[2:31:54] better.
[2:31:55] I see, I wear the letters, I don't know when my time's up.
[2:32:00] I wear the letters, I saw the three to four hundred letters in support.
[2:32:04] But I don't feel that a true public outreach was made.
[2:32:09] And that I hold the city council responsible for.
[2:32:12] Let's my request.
[2:32:14] Thank you.
[2:32:14] Thank you, Michelle.
[2:32:16] I made a new set of person.
[2:32:18] Will my Brian?
[2:32:19] It's probably right here.
[2:32:24] All right, so with that, see here's how close we'll be up here for this section.
[2:32:28] I have been in this section phase.
[2:32:30] What's with the footprint?
[2:32:33] Yeah, big idea.
[2:32:35] All right.
[2:32:37] The council will be back at 9.30.
[2:32:42] All right?
[2:32:43] So I'm sure you guys will be too.
[2:32:45] Fine, that's pretty good.
[2:32:48] onto the cell line if you would like.
[2:32:56] This is within the preview of the public hearing stuff so go ahead.
[2:33:39] We're happy to answer them.
[2:33:42] All right, I'm sure we're all visiting writing stuff.
[2:33:45] Who would like to open?
[2:33:49] Most of my questions have been answered.
[2:33:51] I do have one or two.
[2:33:53] We can get into it.
[2:33:54] So I saved those questions until the APS had an opportunity to give their presentation.
[2:34:01] So let me ask a couple that have come up, and they've been addressed, but Miles will bring them up again.
[2:34:05] Mr. Patel?
[2:34:09] And you and I spoke about this last week, but I was just talking about it publicly again.
[2:34:16] So if a program on deers completed in a couple of years, and it's blasts were dedicated,
[2:34:20] This now become a regional center as had been claimed several years ago.
[2:34:27] It does not become a regional center.
[2:34:30] There are, as we mentioned previously, three other BAPS centers located in the Southern California area.
[2:34:36] They include a San Diego Bakersfield and the Victorville area.
[2:34:40] So those are three locations, just in Southern California.
[2:34:43] But the other reason they doesn't become a regional facility is simply because there are other BAPS facilities located
[2:34:49] Throughout what we would consider to be the Western part of the United States, there are places
[2:34:55] of worship located in Milipetus, which is located near the San Jose area.
[2:34:59] There is one also in the Fresno area, San Francisco.
[2:35:03] As you moved up the coast, there's one in the Taipei, what's called Tiger, near the Portland
[2:35:08] Metropolitan Area.
[2:35:09] There is one further up in Seattle.
[2:35:11] If you went eastbound, then you would find one in Phoenix area and the Tucson area.
[2:35:16] So there are multiple BAPS centers throughout the Western United States and those people that attend
[2:35:22] that congregation were, of course, attend their local congregation.
[2:35:25] So we'll not be in that sense of regional draw.
[2:35:28] Six, a few years ago when the big hearing took place, a lot of the opposition was focused
[2:35:34] on traffic and traffic specifically revolving around festivals.
[2:35:41] Have you had any festivals since your cultural centers been open?
[2:35:44] We have.
[2:35:45] We have had our Coastal Center opened in 2009 and since then we've had three major festivals.
[2:35:53] Those are what we call three Hindu holidays.
[2:35:56] We have had those three every year since we've opened and there's not been any problem in any sense.
[2:36:02] Public Roads, we've talked to them, they've never had a complaint.
[2:36:06] The city council, I don't believe it's ever received a complaint.
[2:36:08] The sheriff's department has never received a complaint.
[2:36:10] But more importantly, our team closest neighbors fear field ranch and the mobile home community have never expressed a complaint.
[2:36:15] So why we don't believe there will be traffic either.
[2:36:18] So even one that the Mondaire is dedicated and festivals continue to take place, you don't think that will be more of a draw significant draw that might change the festival attendance that you've had in the recent past.
[2:36:33] Well, and this is the reason why there will be a properly approximately, again, like we're
[2:36:37] measure their 250 families, a 10 regular Sunday worship.
[2:36:42] That figure on those three special Hindu holidays would, of course, draw additional members
[2:36:49] from the Bakersfield, San Diego, or Victorville area, depending on certain conditions.
[2:36:57] The key, of course, members who manage and organize those facilities, those places of worship,
[2:37:01] could not come to those Hindu holidays because they're managing the local congregation there.
[2:37:07] But in the event that a person decides of, you know, it's a very special, it's a very auspicious holiday.
[2:37:13] We're going to decide to make the hour drive north or an hour and a half drive north.
[2:37:17] In that sense, sure, there could be some members of the faith that come up.
[2:37:20] Significant enough to cause traffic or cause a problem, absolutely not.
[2:37:24] The footprint of the Mondale was reduced, I believe, 6800 feet square feet, that is correct.
[2:37:32] Could you make it any smaller than that?
[2:37:34] We could not reduce it any more than that.
[2:37:37] And how much did it bring down the height?
[2:37:39] About down the height, essentially, when you do the full calculation, the stone structure was reduced from 73 feet to 56 feet.
[2:37:46] And that decrease was possible despite an increase in the foundation of 6.5 feet.
[2:37:51] Okay, thank you. That's all I have for now it. Thank you.
[2:37:57] You mentioned all those locations.
[2:38:02] Do they all have a dedicated temple?
[2:38:05] I don't think any of them do do they?
[2:38:08] What do you mean by the three other places of worship and so on?
[2:38:11] They don't have a mandrel like what you're proposing here.
[2:38:14] No, they would not have a traditional authentic mandrel, they would not.
[2:38:20] The closest one for the, the, the restaurant reaches that we refer to.
[2:38:26] No, well, obviously need for the, the rest course.
[2:38:29] Well, for any actually location, there would, there's, there's third local places of worship.
[2:38:35] So, of course, people in the, for example, will take Seattle.
[2:38:40] The BPS congregation, the Seattle area would practice at their local facility.
[2:38:43] for them to be able to come out to, let's say, even Houston or junior girls or anything like that, and the Houston facility will simply be in practical.
[2:38:53] It's not possible to even fly down.
[2:38:55] You know, when you think about it, six or eight or ten hours for three hour celebration,
[2:39:00] when you can do that at your own place of worship, so that's what they would do.
[2:39:05] All right.
[2:39:06] I do want to share with all of you in my council, especially.
[2:39:09] I talked to the mayors of the Eastern, the Stapard Tests, and also in Atlanta, no, not the
[2:39:19] Atlanta, but so they which is in Lybon, Georgia, this weekend, they said that since those
[2:39:26] temples have been open, there has been no traffic issue even on festival days.
[2:39:34] I was surprised because I was from the Wookie, but they seemed to look different, what you are saying is that only on special holidays in the year, in which flow and the flow is still below their threshold.
[2:39:49] So for me, at the first time, there was a very, very concern about increased traffic, even with the day-to-day temple.
[2:39:56] I don't think there's any proof that I ain't more.
[2:39:59] Studies on Charlotte, the on-site visual field of those, the most, most of the students don't see that also.
[2:40:11] I'm trying to hold on the nerve from the Shufawa side.
[2:40:15] Trunner at the speak to a staff member, and they basically said the same thing to him.
[2:40:21] So, for me, that beer is a leavey-in.
[2:40:27] Thank you.
[2:40:27] All right.
[2:40:28] One additional question now, when the boss wanted this here to dedicate the temple
[2:40:32] before it's as it was being constructed, the laying of the first stone, and that would probably be one of the most significant things.
[2:40:38] Wouldn't you think because your leader, international leader, was here?
[2:40:43] I was there at that particular ceremony, and I did not experience any of the traffic issues as well.
[2:40:48] And if you're not going to traffic issues with a major event like that, then I can't see where any festival is going to create any significant traffic issue.
[2:41:03] Okay, well, I did a similar thing that Mayor Graham did.
[2:41:06] I called the two facilities in Texas and also in Chicago, Chicago's my home.
[2:41:11] So I had to see how that was going.
[2:41:13] But anyway, to make a long story short, the question I had asked was,
[2:41:18] do you have the health fairs?
[2:41:20] Do you have the educational fairs?
[2:41:21] Is that an ongoing program?
[2:41:23] And both of those facilities have been established for some years now,
[2:41:27] said yes they do and I came back and I asked representatives of the BAPS temple here, do you plan
[2:41:34] on extending all of these events that you have been having and I got a resounding yes, so
[2:41:41] absolutely it's what you see is what you get is what I tend to get and I think I've got the
[2:41:48] kind of input.
[2:41:52] Now, the elephant in the room for name is his whole routine about honor and commitment
[2:42:02] on the citizen to what happened years ago, specifically that there was a deal basically that
[2:42:13] The APS left aside that city hall ended up on, maybe, if may I interrupt you for just
[2:42:20] where?
[2:42:21] On behalf of the organization, we are not here to discuss that that set of events that may
[2:42:26] or may not have occurred in 2004 or prior to that.
[2:42:30] We want to focus on what happened in 2004 at that hearing with the code amendment and what's
[2:42:34] going on now with this code amendment here.
[2:42:37] That process is an organization in for this purpose is water under the bridge.
[2:42:41] So I appreciate that.
[2:42:43] The only problem is you have many, many speakers who want to talk about that particular thing.
[2:42:49] And what does, it pays us a little bit of a corner that, well, yeah, we are FFO upright on this people,
[2:42:59] and want to do the right thing.
[2:43:01] When I first heard that a few years ago, I went to our attorney,
[2:43:06] I think it was in the room, all those closed sessions and discussions, having talked
[2:43:12] in what about it, and Mike was involved, so gentlemen, was there some type of the of that
[2:43:20] BAKS left aside and he would direct them to a site that we would approve or anything like
[2:43:25] that?
[2:43:26] Well, I was around, I guess if you want to say between seven and ten years ago, I was
[2:43:32] city attorney during that time period when this project was processed and approved and my
[2:43:44] recollection was that the city was in negotiations with Eleanor Vaskas, I believe was the
[2:43:53] Prior to the time that the temple started to negotiate also with Miss Faskas and the city
[2:44:04] ultimately purchased that property which is part of this entire site, I am not aware
[2:44:10] of nor was I part of any discussions that there was going to be some trade for land use entitlements
[2:44:16] for guaranteed that there would be my auntie's entitlement provided to BAPS for any other
[2:44:22] site that might be chosen. During meetings I've heard that accusation made during meetings
[2:44:31] that have been held with BAPS and I've asked the question specifically because my reaction
[2:44:37] was similar to yours may or that it made it sound like we weren't being moral and upright
[2:44:43] and so I asked the question, I said, well, who made this deal? And to this day I've never
[2:44:48] received a response as to who allegedly was involved in this deal. Three of the council members
[2:44:55] that voted on the original project are sitting here today. I've never heard anything.
[2:45:00] Any one of you talk about such a deal. I have met with the former city manager, Doug LaValle, never engaged any sort of deal or that nature. So my response is I'm a rare no deal, and I would also tell you that it would have been illegal on a number of grounds to have made such a deal, because any such a decision has to be made during a public process that's publicly noticed in front of the public as far as a land use decision.
[2:45:31] And BAPS was represented by extremely legal, competent, or extremely competent legal
[2:45:38] countable during that first hearing and they know all of the rules and they know that
[2:45:43] there could not have been a deal struck that such as have been arrived.
[2:45:48] That's my response.
[2:45:51] Can I address that also?
[2:45:53] I wasn't on a council at the time I was on a planning commission and that night I was sitting
[2:45:57] out in the audience, and the commitment that I remember of the council was that they would
[2:46:02] help you look for a site that might be applicable for you within the area, within
[2:46:07] Cheenow Hills, within Cheenow.
[2:46:09] And that was followed up on that, how this other site was looked at, because it was a possible,
[2:46:16] sorry, for some of the others.
[2:46:18] Yeah, the community of all the director of that time, Jeff Kahlyer, has said that.
[2:46:23] that there was never any commitment to know, but they were happy to provide a leadership at
[2:46:28] that time with the potential sites where they could locate much like we have many
[2:46:35] major workers that come to our cameras that want to develop something, residential or
[2:46:41] commercial, they are getting a list of sites of potential things that you'll look at.
[2:46:47] So that's basically what I know and what research I've done, and I know I might be
[2:46:56] going to comment on anything.
[2:47:00] Well, at that time, I was a lowly director, but in the needs of Mark Reference's, we
[2:47:08] have heard that allegation, and to the extent we can, we have researched it and tried to confirm
[2:47:15] confirm it, not necessarily denied it, and again, ask for how that came about, frankly,
[2:47:26] and we're not able to have peace that together this time.
[2:47:29] We have moved forward through this project in the same vein that the BPS has.
[2:47:37] In O4 there was a hearing, there was a ruling in a decision, there's been a process that we've gone through
[2:47:43] for several years, that's brought us here this evening, and that's what Steph has been
[2:47:46] focusing on.
[2:47:48] And that's my Mr. Patel and Beatrice, but that's why I bring it up, because I also
[2:47:53] am very, very process-oriented.
[2:47:55] So it's a process with skewed, then I like some back-to-other and stuff that I've never heard
[2:48:03] of it.
[2:48:04] Then you can admit that on councils or in the cities that are to do underhand agreement or
[2:48:12] a link, a type of a green that we will build here and you will build over there.
[2:48:18] So I just would like to put all that to us.
[2:48:20] And some of you have that up there, please.
[2:48:23] But let us know.
[2:48:26] So I appreciate Mr. Patel, your comment here about,
[2:48:29] you know, we're here on this particular thing.
[2:48:31] All right.
[2:48:34] I should be speaking now.
[2:48:36] I should be speaking now.
[2:48:37] I should be speaking now.
[2:48:40] I should be speaking now.
[2:48:42] been very patient here. And let me just say again to remind a lot of you because I heard a lot
[2:48:48] of comments about traffic. The only issue before us is quite simple. It's a development code
[2:48:55] amendment number one. So please know that. Number two, I'd also like to bring you back when
[2:49:01] this was originally brought before council because it needs some clarification on all of the issues
[2:49:06] that were brought before us again. They were segregated by each particular action. I was the
[2:49:12] that voted no. Because at that time, certainly in one person brought that up, it's not about
[2:49:19] intolerance. There is a religious, land use, protection act absolutely, and I felt that
[2:49:27] I'd bikercating the spires from those issues that were significantly land-use-oriented. That
[2:49:34] could have potentially been a violation of that, which is why I want all of them into a
[2:49:40] vote for every single aspect of it. I want to explain those to you what those were.
[2:49:45] At the time, what came before us were several conflicting issues on the size and scope of
[2:49:51] the project on several different occasions from the initial time that they came to the city
[2:49:57] to talk about it until the time that it came before us in a public hearing. And like Ed said,
[2:50:02] if there was such a handshake, I would like to know that's very unsettling to me and if any of you
[2:50:08] out there that know me well, that if I asked for me to speak with you about this or anything
[2:50:13] else that's coming before us, I will simply say I cannot talk to you about that because
[2:50:18] it's important for me to let the public know that I have my decision is not made prior to
[2:50:25] any single council meeting that I've ever had. I think it's important for the public to
[2:50:29] be involved that they hear an unbiased view. And again, like Ed said, if any of you have specific
[2:50:34] information about that I certainly would like to know that because that's not what I worked
[2:50:38] so very hard with somebody of you to create this community and it's spent like Ed and others that
[2:50:44] have been around here that are in the audience. You know, nearly 20 years in the city council,
[2:50:48] we want to know that that never occurred. I just want to explain to you now a little bit about my
[2:50:54] no votes and what they were based upon. What of McGinney said was traffic because at the time
[2:50:58] there was some conflicting issues about that. I didn't believe some of the studies that were done
[2:51:03] was comprehensive as they could be at the time, and I asked staff to do more detailed report on it.
[2:51:10] The second one, those of you that are familiar with a very serious issue that's before
[2:51:15] of municipalities and counties in the state of California, is the regional housing needs assessment.
[2:51:21] It's commonly referred to as rena. That particular site is zoned multifamily.
[2:51:26] If we do not comply with those mandates by the state of California, we can be significantly
[2:51:31] And going back to the initial time when this came before us in a public hearing, we did not have the capacity nor the knowledge at that time if we could actually comply with that.
[2:51:44] So that was another issue by changing the zoning of it, by changing that and losing those multi-family units.
[2:51:51] I did not feel that staff adequately allowed us to opportunity to find out where those units would be placed to comply with those statement days.
[2:51:59] The third issue, and I think there were two of us at the time, Ed, it was the Williamson Act,
[2:52:04] which you have to look at as a relates to open space and agricultural zone areas.
[2:52:09] And I didn't feel that the findings were made in that, and I think, also Ed, if I'm not, if I'm incorrect,
[2:52:14] let me know, that U.S. avoided no one on that particular aspect.
[2:52:18] So that was the other one at the time as well too.
[2:52:21] And, you know, all of those combined, again, it had nothing to do with the religion.
[2:52:27] It didn't matter who it was, which is why I felt that the spires and the height should be
[2:52:32] bifurcated, because I thought that there could be a potential violation of that.
[2:52:35] By interpreting that, as a, though that might be perceived as a violation of a religious
[2:52:44] right act.
[2:52:45] So please know that that's the case.
[2:52:47] Now in that background, I think that's important to state at the time, is that what
[2:52:54] But many of you have said, I think we've all realized and we all appreciate the kindness
[2:52:59] support, the community, outpouring that all of you involved in BAPs and all of you that
[2:53:04] support them have done over the years.
[2:53:06] You guys have just done a tremendous job bringing our community together and I thank you
[2:53:11] for that.
[2:53:12] But what is important for all of us to look at and to understand is that our decision truly
[2:53:19] is simple in the fact that it's about land use and it's about planning and it's about
[2:53:24] something very specific on paper. All of that has bearing on it and it has great
[2:53:29] emotional value and I appreciate that. But the way that I look at things is
[2:53:33] just based upon specific facts that we have to look at today. But over the years
[2:53:38] as this project is gone forward, they built wonderful facilities, there's one aspect
[2:53:43] of it that is left and what we ask them to do is come to a compromise and what they
[2:53:48] spoken to us before is that they have come to a compromise.
[2:53:52] There are very detailed oriented aspects of very
[2:53:57] religion that have to have spatial, height, width,
[2:54:00] whatever it might be that are involved in their project
[2:54:03] and for their worship, and I appreciate that.
[2:54:06] And I think that they've done a very good job of looking at the issues
[2:54:10] that were brought before them before.
[2:54:12] And I appreciate them from moving forward on that.
[2:54:14] They've been very patient in doing so.
[2:54:16] And I think this should not become an issue of emotions.
[2:54:20] It should become one of a specific clarity of a development code of amendment.
[2:54:25] And as many of you have stated, the landscape of Chino Hills has changed over the years since their initial application.
[2:54:31] There has been commercial buildings that have been built.
[2:54:33] There has been pylon signs that have been created to create commerce and to create jobs for our community here,
[2:54:39] which we were so very job poor.
[2:54:41] And we had no redevelopment agency, we had no real money in our general funds.
[2:54:46] We've made room for them, paid the way.
[2:54:48] By looking at that, that's also changed the way
[2:54:50] as we look at code amendments, and we look at the heights of things.
[2:54:54] I think that, you know, what Joanna articulated and what Henry
[2:54:57] articulated, and also the BAPS community, has as well.
[2:55:01] We looked at three, I think, different aspects on how you can come
[2:55:03] to some sort of conclusion, to move forward and bring something
[2:55:07] to the community that you had envisioned, and you had been
[2:55:11] worshiping four, four years, and to complete
[2:55:13] all these years of what you've been doing.
[2:55:16] In my opinion, after all of the stuff that I've gone through and again, someone mentioned
[2:55:20] all the letters, here's the stack of letters for this time, and yes, like Ed said, we've
[2:55:25] gone through all of them.
[2:55:26] And so, you know, I'm sorry that you believed that the city didn't do a good job of communication
[2:55:30] outreach.
[2:55:30] I think that's a good aspect of it, and I think we've done the best we can as council members
[2:55:35] if we weren't listed on the emails specifically, I did my best to respond to you back
[2:55:40] If I could on that one, and I'm sorry that you feel bad because I think we've been very
[2:55:45] open about it, and I think just as a final comment, and I'll say it now, where I
[2:55:51] was at that point, I believe I voted the right way, and I apologize, profusely, to anybody
[2:55:56] that believed it was for any other reasons, it's just the way that I am, it's the way
[2:56:00] that I operate, it's the way I roll.
[2:56:02] I looked at every single aspect, I read every single page, and every single report.
[2:56:06] I come from the development background, and I thought that was appropriate.
[2:56:09] All this before we now is something that's very, very simple.
[2:56:13] It's a development code amendment.
[2:56:15] I think I've heard enough staff reports and enough comments from staff that I feel comfortable
[2:56:20] that this is the right way for us now to move forward with the development.
[2:56:31] I have a question of staff, a question of numbers I don't care, it's both easy.
[2:56:39] No more questions.
[2:56:39] I have one.
[2:56:42] I should have one, the one.
[2:56:48] I'll be brief, I'll be brief, I'll be brief, and I talk for 20 minutes.
[2:56:54] Um, it really is kind of surprising how, um, some of you spoke with that, you know, we
[2:57:04] have churches, well, a lot of churches have been there, and yeah, the idea, you know, we
[2:57:08] should embrace the whole diversity.
[2:57:11] Um, I challenge you to find a need to be our science that has a Buddhist, Hindu, Korean,
[2:57:18] But even Joe, LDS, what else am I missing?
[2:57:24] Just a little.
[2:57:25] Okay, I'm out.
[2:57:27] All these different types of things.
[2:57:29] I mean, we have tons.
[2:57:32] For those of you, I mean, my mind turns off, I hear those types of discussions.
[2:57:36] Because that's not actually out there in the real world.
[2:57:44] Let's see.
[2:57:45] I don't know.
[2:57:49] Why have I speak to talk about the value of the law and how we have to follow it?
[2:57:54] What does that mean?
[2:57:58] How does that mean?
[2:58:00] Let me phrase a question.
[2:58:02] Does this whole amendment affect it all by the value of the law?
[2:58:07] Well, the question would be, under Relupe, whether or not if this council doesn't approve it,
[2:58:16] whether it would impose a substantial burden on the exercise of the religion.
[2:58:25] That's the first question that gets raised.
[2:58:29] There are not a lot of cases so far on the looper.
[2:58:35] The cases that have found violations of cases where cities,
[2:58:43] agencies have what appear from the description of cases played games with religious institutions
[2:58:49] and turned down an application on one side for one reason and they actually had a famous
[2:58:56] case where they turned down because they said it was too close to the urban part of town
[2:59:01] and they put it outside more in the agricultural areas that well it's not consistent with
[2:59:06] that area.
[2:59:06] The court and trooper that is playing games with the religious institution, here the institution exists,
[2:59:17] and the operating, the question is just the height, and I don't believe so long as the council doesn't turn it down based upon the faith of the religion,
[2:59:31] that it would be a real loop of violation, because I don't think that you're substantially
[2:59:36] keeping that from practicing their faith.
[2:59:39] I think I could disagree with that interpretation, but I don't think based on the cases
[2:59:43] I've read today that it would be a real loop of violation, unless the council was motivated
[2:59:50] by to try to vote against it because of their faith, that it would be the other violations
[2:59:56] also.
[2:59:58] Yeah, I think that...
[3:00:00] The membership has done incredibly good job of getting out into the community and changing all that fear seven years ago into something that we've seen here today, which is very, very low opposition.
[3:00:23] Some of them have a negative word up here, I just want to ask for much pressure over here of個人.
[3:00:32] It bothers me that they were allowed to build the base of their temple up to this height of 42 feet,
[3:00:42] Because it depends us in chief high of a horror where, you know, are we paying that
[3:00:51] so as a whole of the teacher?
[3:00:52] Because if a developer came in and wanted something that was shown that we didn't want
[3:01:01] him and he builds up to and does something that may be permissible to try to force our
[3:01:12] hand a little bit to hone the last idea of this, I don't have a viable project. How is
[3:01:22] this not setting the table for the same type of thing?
[3:01:25] Well, let me first say that this is a very initial project and as going pointed out that original approval process was a little bit piecemeal.
[3:01:35] What staff was left with was a CPA approval, a site plan approval that allowed everything except for the height.
[3:01:43] Now, I also believe in this happen when I was not involved with the project and I was not a member of staff.
[3:01:48] that before the applicant was issued building permits,
[3:01:52] they came in with a plan that showed modified towers
[3:01:58] and a little of architectural features
[3:02:01] that kept to the points you feed.
[3:02:03] So that is what the building permits were based on.
[3:02:08] So that would go far if this was not approved.
[3:02:12] So they didn't have a planning place,
[3:02:13] that's valid, that was approved by staff at the time,
[3:02:16] and that they're building toward.
[3:02:19] So to replace that is what they've built is what they proposed and that they have a
[3:02:29] completed structure if they did not get the dome and the height.
[3:02:34] Mayor Grant?
[3:02:35] Right, because Mayor Grant might make that at the time when they were seeking the permits to
[3:02:40] start the construction that was my specific direction that there had to be the
[3:02:46] ability for a finished product, not just a line at 42 feet, and staff will satisfy that
[3:02:55] they brought that forward, and the firmments are subsequently issued.
[3:02:59] All right.
[3:03:01] And, by then, for me, advice you can jump in, or my friend.
[3:03:06] All right, land first.
[3:03:10] What's so close do we have then after passing this moment of each other nine sites?
[3:03:18] Not looking over into a you speak up what?
[3:03:28] I'm sorry.
[3:03:30] Tell me the headmark?
[3:03:31] I'm sorry the news is already permitted.
[3:03:33] On the nine sites, question is, would the passage of this curve, which would allow the height on those sites to be increased, is that something the council would be concerned about and not favor?
[3:03:53] And the use is conditionally permitted on all those sites, and unless, because of the
[3:04:02] Lula,
[3:04:06] unless there was significant impact from the project traffic, where some other
[3:04:16] significant impact probably would be difficult to deny a religious use on those properties.
[3:04:22] these, again, buying some significant impact that couldn't be mitigated, but this issue
[3:04:28] is really over the height and the extension of the ability to go from the current heights
[3:04:34] on those properties up to 80 feet.
[3:04:43] Anything else going?
[3:04:44] Well, in addition to that, any of those projects that they were to be proposed for the latest
[3:04:49] facility, they would be subject to the same site plan review, CUP process at this project
[3:04:55] went through the first time, and if I wanted to have the height, they would again have to
[3:05:01] demonstrate that it is compatible with the adjacent uses and structures.
[3:05:06] One in the Davis analysis, we did sort of hypothetically, would it be compatible, but
[3:05:14] with the real project coming forward, we would be looking at that in a reality, does this
[3:05:20] or work on the site and is compatible with adjacent uses.
[3:05:25] So staff are both with the whole analysis
[3:05:26] and make a recommendation if it's appropriate
[3:05:30] if they could make the findings or not make the findings.
[3:05:33] So there would be reasonable guarantee
[3:05:35] from the staff standpoint that we could make the findings
[3:05:37] that it would be a suitable use.
[3:05:39] And that's how we look at it.
[3:05:43] Hey, we're questions?
[3:05:45] Follow us.
[3:05:47] Comments?
[3:05:47] Go ahead.
[3:05:49] I think the future, I think art was going to make some comment.
[3:05:52] Well, but I'll, you know, I'm not sure much shorter than you are.
[3:05:57] You think so.
[3:05:58] You were like 14 pages up here this evening.
[3:06:03] I want to thank staff for an excellent presentation first of all.
[3:06:06] They did an outstanding job and on a subject that was long overdue for a rediscution tonight.
[3:06:14] Thank you also for a very organized and intelligent discussion this evening from our community members, so thank you all, you did a great job.
[3:06:25] I have to say that the lack of public negative criticism is deafening.
[3:06:31] I thought there would be more outcry compared to what took place six years ago and it hasn't taken place.
[3:06:37] has nothing to do with the summertime hearing, it's just I think that the efforts by the
[3:06:44] BAPS community to reduce any anxiety that may have existed six years, seven years ago has
[3:06:52] been very effective in the outreach that they've made to our community.
[3:06:57] Over the years, my biggest concern when knowing what's going to come to us was, how is
[3:07:03] going to affect the rest of the community.
[3:07:05] And I express that to the BAPS.
[3:07:07] I express that to our staff sometime back that, OK,
[3:07:11] what if we approved this height variance,
[3:07:14] or whatever you want to call it?
[3:07:15] Is there anybody else in town
[3:07:16] I'm going to be coming to us saying, well, you did it for them.
[3:07:18] You need to do it for us.
[3:07:20] Well, I want to thank staff in the BAPS for coming up
[3:07:23] with a development code proposal
[3:07:27] that alleviates my fear of what could have happened
[3:07:30] down the road.
[3:07:33] So after all this examination, it's obvious that the overall impacts to our city are negligible
[3:07:37] to me and to me the development code approval tonight is a non-issue.
[3:07:44] That's all I have for now.
[3:07:46] Thank you.
[3:07:52] There.
[3:07:55] I have a long history on this.
[3:07:57] I was actually on the planning commission back in 2004 when this project came to us and similar
[3:08:03] So the hearings that went on back in July of this year, staff came forward with findings
[3:08:10] of fact that was going to approve or call for the approval of the development of the entire
[3:08:16] site, including the height at the time.
[3:08:19] I was one of the four people that actually voted in favor of the project.
[3:08:25] There's a million reasons why morally and ethically and with integrity that I think that
[3:08:32] is something that should happen, because of the pursuit of each person's religious preference.
[3:08:39] This is not something that I have to necessarily totally embrace their faith, but I do
[3:08:43] have to as a Christian, recognize their ability to practice their faith in the way that
[3:08:48] they choose to do so, and that the way that their Scriptures go ahead and profess that they
[3:08:54] must produce.
[3:08:56] And that means we have to do everything proportionate when it comes to the building of the temple.
[3:09:00] I was happy, I went to hear your explanation tonight about what happened in 2004 because I
[3:09:07] will tell you at the time I was puzzled. I really was. And knowing the type of person
[3:09:12] you are taking this through and analyzing it to the end of the degree, I can see now and
[3:09:16] I can better appreciate what you did at that point in time. I didn't actually agree with you
[3:09:22] at the point in time, but that's, you know, it is water under the bridge. There's a lot
[3:09:27] said about why this should be approved. One comment that when made Joe, you know, I know that
[3:09:36] you were very much involved on the original. We had 16 hundred different responses back at that
[3:09:42] time and we were about equal, about half and half for and against the project. I think that
[3:09:48] the fears that we're going on, you know, some overzealous publication and early proposed development
[3:09:55] of the temple, likening it to other large attractions,
[3:10:00] brought a lot of fears with it pertaining to the traffic.
[3:10:03] The traffic issue has just not materialized.
[3:10:06] And each one of us have seen that in commented about that.
[3:10:10] So traffic is a non-issue.
[3:10:13] Even having said that, we are seven years down the line.
[3:10:17] BPA, BAPS has been very, very patient with the city and continuing to work on getting
[3:10:28] a workable solution to allow them to complete their temple in a manner that the city
[3:10:34] is not settled with bad law and bad guidelines that are going to grossly affect our city.
[3:10:41] Well, 185 sites, potential sites that were potentially could be impacted by the earlier version
[3:10:48] of this, now we're down to 10.
[3:10:50] And the likelihood of those 10 actually got coming forward with the church meeting over
[3:10:56] the criteria.
[3:10:59] This application, this development code, amendment and that is pretty much going to apply to
[3:11:04] this site.
[3:11:05] I doubt very much that there will be any other lines set up of people wanting to come
[3:11:10] do it. And if they do decide to come forward, they're going to have to go through the same process
[3:11:14] as BAPS has to get them to this point where they have a proposed approval of the project.
[3:11:23] So, you know, this little walk down memory lane is just to say that we have investigated this.
[3:11:29] I sat through the planning commission meeting three weeks ago for all three hours
[3:11:33] because I wanted to hear all of the testimony. I wanted to be sure that people were there
[3:11:38] that night that maybe couldn't be here tonight like it here the comments and come up with
[3:11:43] a more well-rounded and well-informed opinion of this before seeing the project come to
[3:11:51] us tonight.
[3:11:54] It is, you know, we could sit here and talk for hours about all of the wonderful things this
[3:12:00] organization does in our community.
[3:12:02] We should all be so thankful here in the city of Chino Hills, as someone said, that they chose
[3:12:09] Chino Hills to place their temple.
[3:12:12] We have benefited so far, and we'll continue to do that into the, you know, the future.
[3:12:19] If you've been out to the temple and you learn how it's being constructed with stainless steel rebar
[3:12:24] and the base isolators and all those things, the temple is being built for a thousand years.
[3:12:29] Now, we're else than United States,
[3:12:31] that we ever built anything that's built for a thousand years.
[3:12:35] You know, I should take an example on medicine.
[3:12:43] We go from beautiful towers to, yeah, okay.
[3:12:48] Anyway, I could talk a lot in the middle, you know,
[3:12:51] get the king out and the hook out and yank me off the stage.
[3:12:55] But bottom line is I have not had any issues with this.
[3:12:59] What has been presented again, we're looking at one thing.
[3:13:01] We're looking at the height.
[3:13:02] We have a staff report that's recommended by the Planning Commission.
[3:13:09] I think that all of the proper due diligence has been done.
[3:13:12] All of the proper research has been given to the City Council for our consideration.
[3:13:17] And I have absolutely no issue with the development code of amendment.
[3:13:24] And I believe that we should do it.
[3:13:26] And I would be hopeful that we can call for unanimous support of this.
[3:13:33] Thank you.
[3:13:36] If I have comments, boil or boil.
[3:13:41] Don't cook long enough.
[3:13:42] I can be the evil eye.
[3:13:43] I can see it.
[3:13:45] No, this is so much better than last time.
[3:13:52] I think my colleagues have all stated it.
[3:13:56] I have part time on this issue for a couple of things.
[3:14:02] That's not obligated to the high-fisher also.
[3:14:06] Number one is no doubt that the APS does an awesome job of PR.
[3:14:12] We should highlight the leadership to do like a city.
[3:14:18] Because I think it has flipped over the perception of many of our residents.
[3:14:25] I think they tried to get a major outreach to people, and they don't know where to reach back.
[3:14:31] You know, that's not your fault.
[3:14:33] I do have a major concern about traffic, and after researching those other sites, I don't know what I'm going to miss you.
[3:14:42] So I guess for me, it's an after-fall issue of building something and you know, I get the feeling you know you're going to get it if you just build up to a certain spot.
[3:15:00] Stop. That part of life. For me, that shows a character that is not typical of where I would expect of your organization.
[3:15:12] Although, politically, I should see why I would do that to a problem.
[3:15:19] So, that's my hard work.
[3:15:21] I think after a local admin,
[3:15:25] I think it's probably appropriate.
[3:15:30] You know, pre-limiting, but not two or nothing.
[3:15:34] It does give us some preview on the future.
[3:15:39] I chose the MC tonight, probably no one knows anything else, even after times and
[3:15:46] only looking for many days, so right now more or more, but no, yes, then no, so with that,
[3:15:55] I'll show you two except and develop my code, and you were looking for motion, yeah, you
[3:16:02] got it.
[3:16:02] Motion to approve.
[3:16:03] I was in Florida.
[3:16:07] I was in Florida.
[3:16:07] I was.
[3:16:35] If you need to leave, I would.
[3:16:38] I would say that I'd rather go.
[3:16:41] Just to fight with you, it's really the wrap up and keep going.
[3:16:50] I'm in France right now.
[3:16:51] It's going through.
[3:16:55] We're going to go to the Shins and we'll still go to the Shins.
[3:16:58] All of our time on that in the process.
[3:17:02] And you know, I'm going to do that.
[3:17:06] You think you know what that side is?
[3:17:07] There are also if you like.
[3:17:10] All of us are in no way.
[3:17:18] Maybe hold me in the minute.
[3:17:20] I hope so.
[3:17:21] Why are you going?
[3:17:29] I'm in the problem.
[3:17:30] I'm just trying to talk to you.
[3:17:34] I can't talk to you.
[3:17:34] I still can't.
[3:17:35] I still move out there.
[3:17:37] No, you can't.
[3:17:38] You know, I call 10-30.
[3:17:39] I call them.
[3:17:40] I always call, like, how long is it going to go?
[3:17:41] I'm with him.
[3:17:42] But we didn't bet this time.
[3:17:43] All right, so besides the issues of global negotiations, that's most of our time, so.
[3:17:52] Sam then, fearcrum?
[3:17:56] Sam then, very interesting that Executive Director has resigned, is that the last week.
[3:18:05] And so we are now in the higher and in the director of the staff type here, and we're going to do a search.
[3:18:15] So that will be coming across very well soon.
[3:18:20] All right. That's it.
[3:18:21] And external search as well. Yes.
[3:18:23] Correct. Thank you.
[3:18:23] Yes.
[3:18:24] Okay.
[3:18:25] To your value in the higher district.
[3:18:27] Vice Mayor Bennett.
[3:18:29] Yes.
[3:18:29] And the interest at the time, I'll make this short last week.
[3:18:33] Mayor Graham and Council Member Peter Rogers and I all attended a joint meeting of the
[3:18:39] Chino Valley Independent Fire District along with the City of Chino.
[3:18:45] Chief Summers went through along with his staff and walked through the annual report
[3:18:51] of the Fire District. A lot of great things are going on.
[3:18:56] We can talk more in detail about it later.
[3:18:58] Actually we're meeting again tomorrow night, but they're in good shape, physically.
[3:19:04] They are maintaining a couple major programs, they're looking at fuel reduction through
[3:19:10] covering Canyon, other weed abatement to help make our residents properly safer by having
[3:19:17] the fuel cleaned out from around those, went through the whole process of the engine replacement
[3:19:23] equipment replacement and also status of a couple of new stations that are coming online as well as
[3:19:30] their new state-of-the-art training center and the possibility that they may be actually inviting
[3:19:37] other fire departments and that to come train there and possibly make some revenue on the side
[3:19:44] to help with the cost of the district by providing training facilities for other fire districts.
[3:19:49] So that's basically it.
[3:19:53] Do you know, based in these author authority,
[3:19:55] Council Member Kurver?
[3:19:56] Yes, there was a very good meeting.
[3:19:59] One of the things we did we awarded a contract
[3:20:02] for VALs, for the Disalter 2 replacement.
[3:20:06] And the price of those VALs, as I recall,
[3:20:09] was about 30% of the original goods that came in.
[3:20:13] And they were rejected twice.
[3:20:15] So this time we got it at the price that the various agencies
[3:20:19] agencies wanted to pay for them. Also, we had for the phase 3 expansion project, we approved
[3:20:27] professional services agreements with Western MWD, moved over to the CDA. We led some
[3:20:37] of the other people that were going from Ontario to go back and on the expansion project
[3:20:44] services agreement when Hamner Avenue product water pipeline design to pick up some of the
[3:20:50] task on that and finally professional services, a government for a program management support
[3:20:57] services to again going take over so they are claiming control of the CDA hiring employees,
[3:21:06] they have the besides a general manager on board, they have the executive assistant hired,
[3:21:15] have the operations manager hired and they were both beyond line by August 22nd and that
[3:21:23] was basically that it was a good meeting that the CDA is moving forward, making their plans
[3:21:28] work and taking over that agency with the new General Manager and staff, they've moved
[3:21:34] in a new facility, furniture, fit of facility and so it's moving right along.
[3:21:40] That's it.
[3:21:41] Council comments.
[3:21:43] Peter, I'll make a quick.
[3:21:45] I wanted to congratulate the Recreation staff for a great first publication of the
[3:21:51] redesigned brochure.
[3:21:52] Recreation brochure, the quarterly brochure.
[3:21:55] What's great, we have some advertising in there, and there's talk of there's
[3:21:59] descriptions of how to become an advertiser.
[3:22:02] Great effort, great reproduction quality.
[3:22:04] We saved the city a lot of money with this publication, which is still full
[3:22:09] We say the great deal of money compared to what we used to pay.
[3:22:15] I also want to make note of one of the items in here, which is the Chino Hill's
[3:22:20] community foundation sponsoring another event to raise money for our different programs that were involved with,
[3:22:28] including scholarship, scholarship programs, and the community center contributions will make.
[3:22:33] And that's on October 15, check out in your recreation brochure page 13 and give you all the details of this upcoming event.
[3:22:42] We're hoping to have 5, 550 people at this event.
[3:22:45] First time we've done it, we're looking for unique one-of-a-kind projects versus let's say golf tournament, which are great, but there's so many of them out there right now.
[3:22:56] We're trying to find unique things to call our own and maybe have in the pipeline for a long time
[3:23:02] and this is one of them that Chinohil's wine walk at the shops.
[3:23:05] So everybody check it out in their new great brochure.
[3:23:08] Thank you to staff for an excellent design Jonathan, that's all I have.
[3:23:12] Thank you.
[3:23:14] How much did we make our advertising jobs are up here on you?
[3:23:19] With the three ads that are in there, we were actually just to give you perspective.
[3:23:24] We were able to pay for our wine complete brochure.
[3:23:28] And, of course, there will be several more ads that are already confirmed for the next brochure.
[3:23:34] So, the ultimate goal would be to pay for all four brochures, so one of the out-and-three to go.
[3:23:39] All right, my life is the life.
[3:23:41] Well, don't worry.
[3:23:43] Well, just two quick things.
[3:23:47] Steve, the timing of the signal when people are turning left onto a bulldog from Peyton,
[3:23:52] this happened once before a couple years ago.
[3:23:54] I noticed when traffic's coming in the other direction, even if one car is in that left turn,
[3:23:58] And turn link to turn in there.
[3:24:00] It triggers it automatically.
[3:24:02] So the other morning it was kind of like PKM hour.
[3:24:04] It was way back up all the way towards the Eucalyptus
[3:24:07] for this one car.
[3:24:08] So one car is in the left hand turn link.
[3:24:10] And triggers it.
[3:24:11] Maybe you can look at it.
[3:24:13] Yeah, we're working with our traffic people
[3:24:15] on a couple signals right here.
[3:24:16] OK, so that's one of them then.
[3:24:18] And then John did we have a fix the trail?
[3:24:20] Because I noticed it didn't seem like it was fixed
[3:24:22] last week and I was down there.
[3:24:23] The fancy and along Eucalyptus, the trail there.
[3:24:26] There was a bunch of broken rails in there.
[3:24:28] see them replaced. It's my understanding that I have moved place that can certainly
[3:24:32] verify that. Just check it. It was about a week and a half ago when I was back down there.
[3:24:35] I believe it's been corrected. We had some sections of that that
[3:24:39] fencing on order I believe it.
[3:24:41] Thanks.
[3:24:46] All right.
[3:24:46] For myself, John and Captain Renew, I think I'm asking you an email to him. On the
[3:24:54] Everyone in Pine Avenue, I've noticed that there are a large parking on the overpass.
[3:25:02] There are parking at the Delta area, at the end of Pine Avenue.
[3:25:09] I thought maybe there were a counter-office workers, but I saw yesterday about eight people
[3:25:15] piled into the dump truck, and they brought all the vehicles up there.
[3:25:21] And now there's graffiti on our stop and jump and all right, so thank you
[3:25:27] I do a thing to captain and
[3:25:32] Jonathan was staffed on my way up. That was a lot of fun
[3:25:37] That's a thank you for the class and members of our participant
[3:25:40] Also, I think the study number who's at
[3:25:43] What would I say then? So you open up your homes and
[3:25:46] It's been some clash meeting people, so I was very cool.
[3:25:50] So thank you very much for going up, and my final comment has the electrical towers
[3:26:03] are going up, there's more consideration for my residents.
[3:26:10] Correct, Mr. Flager?
[3:26:11] Oh absolutely. And so we'll wait for a pile of rope, the heart system which we go on and
[3:26:19] go and we have to remove the timber. What I would like to do is, should we have some
[3:26:25] destruction on the staff level about holding a community meeting. Obviously coming here,
[3:26:33] this room will not be big enough. But like we do at the church, we'll be talking about this
[3:26:40] This is where we were, this is where we're at now, and this is what truly happened in the future.
[3:26:45] Happily at that moment,
[3:26:48] you know, people don't get concerned, you know, to all of a sudden the towers actually show up.
[3:26:53] And if you actually see 200 feet, that's your home.
[3:26:56] So I think we need to deal with the portion process once again.
[3:27:00] And then also to hold our role.
[3:27:02] What should, what should our role as a city being?
[3:27:06] What should I do as I like the fifth is probably me and I'm going to go over that battle with that and see if he's
[3:27:15] We'll do that and that would be similar to what we've done in the past
[3:27:18] When we got kind of towards the end of the PC hearings right and staff
[3:27:24] is working to organize a meeting while the meeting specifically with I would describe it as kind of their leadership of this new movement
[3:27:33] Um, to discuss just that some of the things that they move forward in a certain vein, what staff can do in that regard.
[3:27:40] And I think it would be beneficial for, like, to be a struggle, more or five of us should be there.
[3:27:46] Uh, you're talking to a large public.
[3:27:48] Yeah, I'll just have with me, right?
[3:27:50] Yes, sir.
[3:27:51] Now, Mark, since Peter and Robert are the Bologna, but they allowed to attend a meeting like this, and so they're upfront, right?
[3:27:59] Then that is slated from it, there's no, they could attend the meeting as residents, they couldn't participate as council members.
[3:28:12] I haven't said that, and it's been a while since I read the, I believe we received two different letters from the FPPC, which did not give a definitive answer,
[3:28:27] but my read of those letters were that in last there was proof that it wouldn't have a
[3:28:35] financial impact on councilor Rogers and councilor Harry's properties that had a conflict
[3:28:45] of interest and it was a matter then of getting battling opinions potentially from a
[3:28:51] users and those type of things and it was very complicated and so it sounds like they
[3:28:59] should not participate but they didn't mean to them. Yes, that's it. That's a very much
[3:29:07] journey in all of our soldiers both here and by now and women. That's it, let's see you in a couple
[3:29:14] weeks.