1 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,239 uh it's a workshop we're first a roll call 2 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,319 listen council member clappy 3 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:26,640 here council member overton councilmember 4 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:29,440 kramer here vice mayor burdock here here 5 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:34,080 all right we go to the burns valley development project workshop 6 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:38,319 mr flora to start off this 7 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,319 yeah so um 8 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:43,920 so this is going to be kind of in two parts we're going to start 9 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,840 by introducing um 10 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:51,519 brian whitmore who's with studio w architects and so 11 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:54,879 the city of clear lake the city of lakeport and the county of lake over the 12 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,640 last well quite a few months have been 13 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:05,680 working with brian's team on developing a recreation 14 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:10,319 feasibility study for the entire county so um 15 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:14,720 this is the first of the presentations to the governmental agencies about this 16 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,040 report so you're the first to see it and then 17 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,959 hopefully we have some time at the end to kind of go over 18 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:25,519 the draft site plan that we've been working with the burns valley sports 19 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:30,840 complex committee on so with that i'd like to turn over to to 20 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:35,760 brian and michael to go over the plan well good evening everyone i'm 21 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,319 brian whitmore i'm with studio w architects can you hear me okay this 22 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,120 evening yes 23 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:45,680 wonderful yes okay i'm joined here this evening by uh mike 24 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:49,360 gelato mike is with shellato training and consulting mike you want to give a 25 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,879 just a brief introduction yourself 26 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:58,799 sure um i retired from the city of roseville in 27 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:03,760 2010 i'm in the last year or so i was serving the city manager but prior to 28 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:07,760 that most of my career was either as the director of parks recreation libraries 29 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,920 or assistant city manager still doing parks recreational library so 30 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:18,720 um since retiring i worked with a number of jurisdictions on feasibility studies 31 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:23,040 operational analysis strategic plans have a lot of familiarity working with 32 00:04:21,359 --> 00:04:27,280 both aquatic centers and recreation centers not only in my city with the 33 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:30,960 city of roosevelt but in the agencies i've worked with subsequently 34 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,759 then i see dennis has joined us as well from aquatic design group dennis you 35 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,280 want to give a brief introduction to yourself 36 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:45,280 thanks brian yes good evening hi i'm dennis berkshire with aquatic 37 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:50,560 design group aquatic design group is an architectural engineering firm that 38 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:56,560 specializes in public recreational water systems and and facilities 39 00:04:53,360 --> 00:05:00,720 we've been in practice since 1984 and and have designed more than 40 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:08,080 3 500 facilities across the us through 41 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,080 42 states and 24 countries 42 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:16,800 great i'm gonna share my screen here and hopefully you folks can see this okay 43 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:21,360 can you see my screen yeah all right 44 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:25,360 so we we have a presentation here i just wanted to share with you our three 45 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:29,680 entities studio w architects aquatic design group enchilada training and 46 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:34,400 consulting are the consultants that put together uh this report uh this is a 47 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:39,039 high level overview of the report the report itself at least for phase one we 48 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,840 have a two part phase one and phase two component 49 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:45,360 to the study we were 50 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,080 given the green light to move forward on phase one 51 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,479 which includes some of the items here i'll go through today 52 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:56,639 but we will offer that report for everybody for review uh following this 53 00:05:54,639 --> 00:06:00,880 presentation this is the first by the way of three presentations that we 54 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:05,600 expect to give both to you folks at the city of clear lake uh the city of 55 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:09,360 lakeport and also lake county so the agenda here this evening we're 56 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,840 going to talk briefly about the purpose and the process that we embarked on 57 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:17,680 for phase one we've identified a number of partners 58 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,960 that is known throughout the report as the lake 59 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,639 county recreation task force and then also other resources 60 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:29,520 that were available we went through some programming with 61 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:33,360 that team to identify some of the needs both for recreational facility and an 62 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,120 aquatics facility now i will mention that there was some 63 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,680 difference between sort of the interests uh on aquatics as it relates to sort of 64 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,880 lakeport and the rest of the county versus the city of or the area of clear 65 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:47,919 lake and we'll talk about that in this 66 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:53,840 presentation we did some very high level capital cost 67 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:58,400 estimates and also cost recovery trends we looked at various management 68 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:01,520 structures how a recreation center or aquatic center of this kind might be 69 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:06,160 managed funding opportunities that exist and 70 00:07:03,919 --> 00:07:11,680 project location opportunities that exist and we'll talk about next steps 71 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:14,880 so the purpose of the phase one study was really to explore the feasibility of 72 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:20,319 a recreation and or aquatic center in lake county 73 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:25,199 identify the marketability of the facility that is its need identify 74 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:30,240 programmatic features such as to identify its capital costs and and 75 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:34,160 potential cost recovery and then identifying management structure funding 76 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:39,840 and location opportunities the process began on march 24th 77 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:44,880 we held regular meetings with a large contingent of what we're considering 78 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,800 that lake county recreation task force we facilitate facilitated tight site 79 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:55,039 tours on april 13th so we toured multiple 80 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:59,759 sites both in clear lake and in lakeport so throughout the county 81 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,840 we schedule presentations tonight and we have subsequent presentations for the 82 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:09,680 city of lakeport on august 3rd and august 10th up for the county of lake 83 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:14,000 uh these were the partners that were identified and actually 84 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:18,879 the task force had done a pretty good job of putting these folks together even 85 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:22,879 prior to when we got selected so from a local government agency 86 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:27,599 standpoint we have lake county city of lakeport city of clear lake and lake 87 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:31,360 county office of education the school districts included lakeport 88 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:36,479 unified school district connected unified school district 89 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:40,399 upper lake unified mendocino college and woodland community college now some of 90 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:45,600 these folks were very active in the process and offered a lot of information 91 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,800 some of these folks were simply on the email list 92 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,760 and were provided information as we went through the process 93 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,200 but certainly these could be considered partners especially when we start to 94 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,760 look at funding opportunities and other mechanisms of joint use or 95 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:03,200 other capacities we move forward some of the local community 96 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:08,640 organizations that we're identifying include first five of lake county 97 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:13,600 lake family resource center the lake county channel cats this is sort of the 98 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:17,040 local aquatics team hope rising 99 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:21,279 the west side park committee which is the committee focused on the westside 100 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:26,320 park area of lakeport redwood community services 101 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:29,680 we also identified healthcare providers we see a lot of healthcare organizations 102 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,279 becoming involved with recreation aquatics facilities across the state 103 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:38,000 and you have a number of them here locally sutter health adventist health 104 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:41,839 and also tribal health and one of the things that we identified 105 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:45,120 although they weren't involved at the task force level 106 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,519 were some of the additional resources that could be lent from some of the 107 00:09:46,399 --> 00:09:51,440 tribes that are identified here 108 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:55,920 and so we tried to identify all of the local tribes 109 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,800 that have at least some some hand in the lake county region 110 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:05,040 part of the process that we went through was trying to identify a program really 111 00:10:02,959 --> 00:10:10,640 identify what were the needs when you start to identify recreational uses and 112 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:14,800 also aquatic uses across the county and this 113 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:19,279 spreadsheet identifies at least for the recreational center 114 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:24,560 some of the items that came up so some sort of large multi-use indoor 115 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,920 court type of facility so for basketball and volleyball 116 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,760 would probably have maybe an 84 by 50 main court 117 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:36,399 cross courts those sorts of things racquetball courts 118 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:40,640 cardio and weights area some sort of training rooms 119 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,399 either for yoga other sort of specialized classes 120 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:49,279 those kinds of things perhaps a game area a billiards 121 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,720 other sorts of smaller games those kinds of things card room 122 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,680 other elements that bring folks from a variety of different age 123 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,200 groups to a recreational center 124 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:03,760 obviously we have a lot of support types of spaces restroom facilities entry 125 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:07,519 reception locker room type of facilities custodial storage 126 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:12,000 equipment and circulation and so generally speaking we looked at sort of 127 00:11:09,839 --> 00:11:17,120 if we identify gross areas for these kinds of things how big of a facility 128 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:21,839 might be we might we'd be looking at and so what this dictates is right 129 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,279 around 15 000 square foot facility which is not 130 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,160 insignificant in size but it's certainly not 131 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:33,120 you know large by comparison to some of the examples that we'll share with you a 132 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:33,120 little later in this presentation 133 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,480 likewise from the standpoint of aquatics and i'll give dennis a opportunity to 134 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,000 jump in here but i'll just go through a brief recap 135 00:11:40,079 --> 00:11:46,000 we identified a variety of different aquatic opportunities 136 00:11:43,839 --> 00:11:48,560 and pool configurations we identified four different 137 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,640 options those options have 138 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,839 varying requirements when it comes to both the bath house and support building 139 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:59,120 so obviously the larger the pool facility 140 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,560 the larger the support facilities that go along with that as well as the pool 141 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:08,320 deck area this was option one this is a 4 800 142 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:14,720 an 80 square foot pool featuring a 75 foot long by 40 foot wide 45 foot wide 143 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,720 lap area with the teaching peninsula the city of patterson is a good example 144 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:22,320 of a pool of this kind and this was one of the options that was 145 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,519 looked at when we looked at sort of the area need 146 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:31,200 necessary for a pool pool deck and bath house and support of this kind of pool 147 00:12:28,959 --> 00:12:36,399 by comparison option two was around a 5700 square foot pool 148 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:40,720 featuring a 75 long by 75 foot wide lap area for 10 149 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:45,360 25 yard lanes yuba city gaucher park in yuba city was 150 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:48,959 the example a case study that we used featuring this pool 151 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:53,360 in each one of these cases i'll mention as well aquatic design group also put 152 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,480 together cost information is related to 153 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,760 maintaining and operating these pools not just capital costs and that's part 154 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:05,440 of the report that we put together also 155 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:12,160 option three is a 5800 square foot 78 foot long by 45 foot wide lap area 156 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:17,600 for a nine lane um essentially a nine 25 yard lane with six feet of deep water uh 157 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:22,240 for various other forms of competition this was the largest of the options and 158 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:26,000 consequently obviously the largest in terms of pool deck area 159 00:13:24,079 --> 00:13:29,839 and supporting area this facility is currently designed as 160 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:35,120 part of north natomas community center aquatics complex this is in sacramento 161 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:39,680 and this was a project uh that started actually as a feasibility study back in 162 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,120 2014 that's currently under construction um so it gives you a good idea of just 163 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,680 you know how many years in the process there 164 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,160 that it took from sort of where we're at today 165 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:52,639 to where they were able to build a community center 166 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:56,800 and aquatic center and then finally a fourth option a 3 500 167 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:02,560 square foot pool featuring a 75 foot long by 45 foot wide lap area 168 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,399 for 6 25 yard lanes this was the the smallest of the 169 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:11,839 configurations and therefore the smallest in terms of its area need 170 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:15,920 we also identified spray ground there was some desire of the ability that in 171 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:20,480 an aquatics program somewhere in lake county to have uh not only just a single 172 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:25,279 body of water but perhaps a second body of water that would allow for 173 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,880 uh playtime activities and activities for smaller children that aren't yet 174 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,880 ready to swim so this all of these options include a 2 175 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:38,000 000 square foot playgrounds essentially 50 by 4 176 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:41,519 parking is largely dictated by the size of the pool the size of the 177 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,720 deck area obviously in the rec center configuration 178 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:47,440 parking would be dictated solely by the rec center 179 00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:50,959 but we did identify the needs for parking 180 00:14:48,959 --> 00:14:55,519 and so based on sort of these very high level programmatic needs 181 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:59,920 we looked at uh dollar per square foot cost so costs ranging from the rec 182 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:03,440 center to probably somewhere around 500 a square foot 183 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,360 to the pool the spray ground the bath house pool deck area the parking area 184 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,120 the site pool equipment and site infrastructure 185 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,880 these costs range from anywhere from about 14 to 186 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:19,360 maybe 15 or 16 million dollars in construction we did add contingency we 187 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:24,480 did ad escalation for a number of years trying to be conservative and then soft 188 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:29,120 costs at around 25 so what you see here is that you know all the needs that were 189 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:34,320 sort of identified through this study add up to somewhere around 22 190 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:39,199 21 to 22 million dollars depending on the options and the 191 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:43,920 configurations that you look at and then just by comparison and really 192 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,880 for the purposes of the city of clear lake 193 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,880 because there wasn't maybe as much of a desire for aquatics program 194 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,160 in the clear lake area just looking at the potential of a 195 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:58,399 recreation center with its own parking and site infrastructure you know 196 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,519 probably closer to the eight to nine million dollars in construction 12 197 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:04,560 million dollars in total project costs with soft costs 198 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:09,040 there as well 199 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:12,800 cost recovery trends this was something that mike shelton put together 200 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:16,320 based on understanding of similar facility operation what we did was we 201 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:20,079 looked at a number of different facilities 202 00:16:17,839 --> 00:16:23,600 most of these facilities are larger in size than what was identified there you 203 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,519 can see roseville sports center there is 204 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:30,800 probably the closest at 23 000 square feet 205 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,399 mill valley community center and indoor pool some of these are simply rec 206 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:40,160 centers some of them include rec centers and pool facilities but what you see 207 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:43,360 there is a range of cost recovery the cd star community center and indoor 208 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:47,839 pool being probably the worst in terms of 209 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,680 cost recovery at about 37 and then 210 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:56,560 the incline village recreation center an indoor pool there in nevada on the north 211 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:01,199 side of lake tahoe being one of the best at 102 212 00:16:58,959 --> 00:17:04,400 but what you see here is a funding subsidy and this is an annualized 213 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,079 funding subsidy of anywheres from you know a hundred 214 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:13,199 thousand dollars actually twenty seven thousand dollars in inclines case uh to 215 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:16,799 somewhere over a million for cv star um what we would expect maybe with a 216 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:21,760 smaller facility and an average maybe 78 is the average 217 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,640 here of these areas identified or these buildings 218 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:27,839 identified maybe you're looking at a couple hundred 219 00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:31,919 thousand dollars each year in subsidy uh in terms of cost recovery 220 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:37,440 and so that is really what sort of revenue are you generating in terms of 221 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:41,840 you know sales of tickets uh other kinds of entry fees that sort of thing 222 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,039 um other types of special events and then what sort of actual revenue are you 223 00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:49,440 generating in terms of maintenance operation uh et cetera mike do you want 224 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:56,320 to add anything here no i think in trying to benchmark what 225 00:17:52,960 --> 00:18:01,600 uh rec centers and and or pools for this thing we looked at not only 226 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,799 size but the scope of the work so the fitness the components of brian went 227 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,880 over in terms of the program for the building are pretty similar in some 228 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:14,720 cases because of buildings at 35 000 square feet or 30 thousand 229 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:17,360 they have other amenities or facilities agora hills 230 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,799 has some 231 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:25,360 multi-purpose room banquet rooms that are part of that center mill valley also 232 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,880 has some community center meeting rooms that are bigger 233 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:33,919 agora hills as a climbing wall roseau sports center has a climbing wall but 234 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:39,360 generally speaking the the program for the buildings that we use in the 235 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,360 benchmark uh were similar 236 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:47,280 so then we start to look at management structures actually after we start to 237 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:51,200 identify what's the potential need um you know what are we looking at in 238 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,720 terms of potential cost and cost recovery 239 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:59,679 we were asked to take a look at you know how might lake county and or various 240 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:03,520 partners within lake county manage a facility of this kind and we identified 241 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:06,240 four different options hopefully some of these you're familiar 242 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:09,600 with mike maybe if you want to jump in and 243 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:13,360 talk briefly about uh just joint development use agreement versus joint 244 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,600 powers authority and then i'll switch the other sure 245 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:21,840 the the um the first being the one i'm obviously most familiar with is the 246 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:27,120 roosevelt aquatic center um the the pool that you see in the picture is built on 247 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:31,919 a a 200 acre park that sits immediately adjacent to a high school in roosevelt 248 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:36,320 one of the high schools in roseville in this case the school district 249 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:40,320 contributed over a million dollars towards the construction of the pool 250 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:44,559 as well as some other joint use facilities in the park site so lighted 251 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:47,360 ball fields and some things the city roosevelt has a long history of joint 252 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,039 use facilities with the 253 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:55,520 all four different school districts in this case the high school district 254 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:00,320 and the um this the part of the agreement provided for ongoing 255 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,480 funding operations from the school district to fund the 256 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,200 operation of the pool and that's fairly normal 257 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:12,960 in this case it's roosevelt but there's a number of other examples where 258 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:18,480 joint used parks and pools are built together and in some cases 259 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:22,480 normally the lead is where the property where the pool is built on and then the 260 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:26,720 other part of the other joint used party contributes both to construction and 261 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:32,480 ongoing operation um the uh i worked with the agora hills 262 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,840 calabasas community center which was pretty unique it was a joint powers 263 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:40,640 authority between the cities of calabasas and the city of glory hills 264 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:45,039 and they got some money they had some land from the la county 265 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:48,880 and then did some other fundraising and 266 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,840 contributions between both of those agencies 267 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:57,840 it's run by the jpa which is its own entity uh 268 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:02,480 although both the cities of calabasas and the city of agora hills 269 00:20:59,679 --> 00:21:06,559 creates an annual contribution um to offset the operating costs of the 270 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,159 facility this facility does really well in terms of 271 00:21:08,159 --> 00:21:13,280 in a normal non-coveted year but in a regular year 272 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,679 they do a really good job of really being pretty close to 100 cost recovery 273 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:23,200 it's a bigger facility but it's extremely well utilized um 274 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:28,240 in those two jurisdictions but the jpa was the model by which it was both 275 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:33,440 funded for development and continues to be funded by jpa the jpa board is made 276 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:37,679 up of a couple of council members from each of the respective cities as well as 277 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:42,480 other citizens at large that might be from the park and recreation commission 278 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:46,720 and then citizens at large that manage the jpa 279 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,600 i think the city of i don't want to get this wrong one of 280 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,679 the cities is responsible for doing payroll 281 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:57,520 but then the funding comes from the jpa itself 282 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:02,640 the other model cv star uh community center i worked 283 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:06,559 with this jurisdiction actually to do uh operational analysis to try to improve 284 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:11,840 their overall utilization and cost recovery um this is really pretty 285 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:16,880 spectacular facility that came from some both private donations and from a 286 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:19,600 foundation that allowed it to be built it was 287 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,240 i think probably about 40 million dollars so it's a pretty expansive 288 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:28,720 facilities but but it's run by the mendocino coast recreation and park 289 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:33,520 district which is a relatively small agency up by fort bragg 290 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:38,159 and what they realized early on once it was opened that they really couldn't 291 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,480 cover a lot of their operating costs so the city of fort bragg uh 292 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:47,679 entered into an agreement with the mendocino coast recreation park district 293 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:52,720 and then passed a tax override measure to provide the ongoing 294 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:57,760 subsidy for this operation because it really wasn't covering its operating 295 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,799 costs so you see that's although it has the largest 296 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,159 subsidy if you will in terms of operating costs that's 297 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,919 actually funded via the 298 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:12,240 tax measure that was used to offset the operating cost 299 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,240 the last is um the special district for recreation we 300 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:19,280 were asked to look at that so we looked at 301 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:23,919 the turkey donor park and recreation district up out of truckee and they 302 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:27,919 built a fairly large recreation center and then just two years ago opened a 303 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:32,960 large indoor pool complex um and that was funded by 304 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:36,480 um the funding from the the local recreation and park district 305 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:39,760 that they have as well as they got some other monies 306 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,559 from gosh the airport district and a couple 307 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:48,000 other areas uh it it generally does really 308 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:52,159 well in terms of cost recovery uh the facilities this one has a large gym has 309 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,720 a couple of meeting rooms fitness facilities child care those kind 310 00:23:54,799 --> 00:24:02,159 of things that we similar to what we're talking about but a little larger scale 311 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:07,679 but the park district is a separate entity so the truckee donner recreation 312 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:11,919 park district overlays the town of turkey which is its own 313 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:17,200 municipality and it also overlays 314 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:22,480 some of the other areas like tahoe donner homeowner association which 315 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:27,039 is a homeowner association about 25 000 residents so it's been overlapping use 316 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:32,080 so the the customers come from um you know multiple jurisdictions um 317 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:38,400 the town of turkey didn't really put any money into it uh they tried to do a bond 318 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:41,279 measure to build a pool but um narrowly didn't pass 319 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:45,679 but then they didn't have the funding to go ahead and build it it's a very 320 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:49,279 popular facility although like everybody else this year has been slowly reopening 321 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,840 with covet right so they're getting back up to speed 322 00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:57,279 so that kind of outlines the basic management structures from 323 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,000 joint use as well as 324 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:04,159 one of the things we looked at if there was a special district 325 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:10,320 um overlaying the three respective communities in uh in the lakeport 326 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:16,720 clear lake lake county area and then or just traditional joint use 327 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:23,440 so additionally one of the things that we looked at was funding opportunities 328 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:28,000 um and so we surveyed at least amongst many of the task force members sort of 329 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:33,120 what existed out there currently or what was reasonably visible versus other 330 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,200 future potential sources and i will say this is one of the things that 331 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,200 is not well defined at this point 332 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:45,440 there really isn't a clear definition of how much funding where funding might 333 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:48,400 come from for a facility of this kind hence the reason we've talked about 334 00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:52,960 management structures you know trying to bring multiple entities together to sort 335 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:56,480 of leverage their own respective funding pods 336 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,640 to be able to make that more palatable and more feasible 337 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:04,240 for example when we when we talk about the north natomas aquatics 338 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,919 facility center that started that feasibility back in 339 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,600 2014 you know much of that funding was really 340 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,880 the city and one city council member in particular that 341 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:19,440 represented that district the city of sacramento is represented by various 342 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:24,240 districts uh you know really saying you know making that a priority 343 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:28,480 you know obligating the rest of the city for general funds 344 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:33,279 looking at special taxes that were identified for the purposes of 345 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,080 parks and recreation in the district one region 346 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,279 and then partnering with with some of the large business owners private 347 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,799 privately funded business owners health care providers 348 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,559 as well as the local school district in their local bond 349 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,559 in order to bring enough facilities together roughly about 40 million 350 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:54,320 dollars in capital funding and then an additional probably somewhere around 351 00:26:52,000 --> 00:27:00,559 half a million dollars annually uh in terms of subsidy to uh to facilitate 352 00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:04,159 that piece so some of the the entities that we identified here in terms of 353 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:09,840 funding include obviously general funds and all entities the city of clear lake 354 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:13,440 city lakeport and certainly lake county have those available 355 00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:17,039 lake county has quinby there are state grants available both at 356 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:21,200 lake county and at local school district levels certainly the local school 357 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,400 districts are probably looking at in cases where they have had bonds pass and 358 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:27,919 they have leveraged some of that money locally 359 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:31,840 looking at prop 51 or even new proposition we're anticipating another 360 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,080 state bond in 2022 that may have some funds coming back to 361 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:39,120 them and there may be additional funds there 362 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,400 having leveraged off their local funds neighboring housing redevelopment funds 363 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:46,480 i understand there's some potential there with the city of clear lake the 364 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,360 school district bonds the local bonds which i mentioned and we understand 365 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,200 there was you know some prioritization 366 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,360 particularly at lakeport about you know what they spent their money on what the 367 00:27:54,799 --> 00:28:01,600 promise was perhaps to spend money on as it related to in particular aquatic 368 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:05,039 center but based on the prioritization of projects and perhaps even the 369 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,399 expensive projects at that time that that priority really fell off the 370 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,559 map so there's a little bit of funds there but not much uh when it relates to 371 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,720 lakeport a little bit it can octa unified school district as well 372 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:19,520 remaining rescue act funds at connecti and then property and asset sale 373 00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:23,760 potential as it relates to lake form other 374 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:28,720 potential sources include tax assessments that may not be as yet 375 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:32,640 defined or some sort of tax assessment that may want to be looked at in the 376 00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:36,000 future for the purpose of funding such as a project as this 377 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:39,600 development funding or additional development agreements with future 378 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:44,159 developments in particular homeowner developments 379 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:48,480 state bond funding proposition 68 federal funding the american recovery 380 00:28:45,919 --> 00:28:52,399 act there is funds there although um you know they are generally limited and and 381 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,080 very competitive in terms of the way that they're being dolled out 382 00:28:54,240 --> 00:29:00,240 the joint powers agreement funding we talked about 383 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:03,600 previously landed one-time funding and was even suggested by lake county about 384 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,039 the potential of some of the cannabis industry 385 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,600 which seems to have a firm foothold in the region 386 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:17,360 project location opportunities so as i mentioned back in april we did tour 387 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,520 several different sites some of the selection criteria i've 388 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,200 identified here i think is very important it's very important as you 389 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,760 folks in particular think about city of clear lake and the opportunity that you 390 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,640 have with your burns valley park development 391 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:35,440 site and that is the proximity and or 392 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,679 synergies that exist with other like types of facilities 393 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:44,960 so the proximity to other community park amenities athletic fields 394 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:49,440 baseball soccer hard courts other kinds of things that go hand in hand with a 395 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:53,520 recreation type of facility so they're being nearby 396 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,200 the potential for shared parking amongst some of those facilities 397 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:00,640 so on special events or other kinds of functions there 398 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,159 you're not building say independent parking areas you're building joint use 399 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:09,200 parking that could be paired it could be used separately depending on 400 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:14,240 the time of the year or the the time of a day of a particular event a 401 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,039 co-location of libraries other centers senior centers schools 402 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:21,600 and also pools with recreation centers combined 403 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,200 that these have a lot of synergies together they bring together certainly a 404 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:29,120 lot of different age groups uh the potential for child care the potential 405 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:32,640 for senior citizen involvement those kinds of things we feel like are very 406 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,120 important and then the place making principles 407 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,320 that you kind of see here off to the right you know social 408 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,720 emotional types of things comfort 409 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:47,200 access obviously we did look at things like arterial 410 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:51,360 streets and access to major thoroughfares public transit other 411 00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:55,039 kinds of things i'm not going to go into too much detail 412 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,760 about some of the properties in the city of lakeport 413 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,600 we'll talk a little bit about the burns valley park development and i understand 414 00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:05,919 you're going to have a presentation after this about sort of the master plan 415 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,360 that's evolving from that but there were a number of facilities in 416 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,960 the lakeport area the west shore swimming pool which is part of the 417 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:17,279 existing high school there in lakeport which unfortunately now is is not an 418 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,240 operation there's really not a lot to save there 419 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:25,120 but certainly it has some synergies when it comes to the pool 420 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:29,600 that exists in the parking and also the high school that's there it doesn't have 421 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:33,679 real good access to nature thoroughfares just a little bit off the beaten path 422 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:39,440 there is some additional land that the district owns but it's generally very 423 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:43,600 hard to access in fact access compliance is one of the first things that you 424 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:47,760 recognize when you look at that site the quail run fitness center is kind of 425 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,279 an intriguing opportunity for the city of lakeport 426 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:56,399 that's a pre-existing recreation and pool facility 427 00:31:53,279 --> 00:32:00,240 that has some potential for sale it would be an opportunity for 428 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:04,159 renovation so it would uh it wouldn't be a ground-up sort of scenario and 429 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:09,440 obviously there'd be a significant cost savings at least capital cost initially 430 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:13,279 to leverage that facility in terms of you know it's its structure its shell if 431 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:18,000 you will and then build out what's necessary to sort of support the needs 432 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:22,000 that we would identify within the county the pool itself is probably not the 433 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:25,120 correct size we probably increased the size of the pool the pool deck and some 434 00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:28,640 of those amenities but it is very proximate to the west 435 00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:32,559 side park in fact it's just across the street there and there could 436 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:36,960 be some both pedestrian and other access opportunities that exist between the two 437 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:40,320 it's also very coincident with the major thoroughfare there the highway one of 438 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,480 the major intersections to the highway and so it 439 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,880 gives a lot of access obviously to to the county area and then finally the 440 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,960 west side community park area as part of the phase two master plan 441 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:56,799 lends itself an opportunity to develop a new built 442 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,880 recreation and or aquatic center at that location 443 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:04,880 uh but for you guys uh the burns valley park development is really the location 444 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,080 that we looked at and so 445 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:12,159 we identified some of the pros and cons and part of i believe what uh city 446 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,760 manager is going to share with you here in a moment is some of even the 447 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:19,840 recommendations of our team made about how to orchestrate perhaps even some of 448 00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:24,880 the conceptual design there so some of the pros that we identify 449 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:28,320 obviously it's already a park business area 450 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:32,799 many synergies exist with both the potential for future parking utilities 451 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:38,000 and athletics fields which are already planned a neighboring library 452 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:42,799 which i think is a fantastic synergy between a recreational center 453 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:46,559 and the rest of the athletics pieces that are there and also the senior 454 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,559 center which is just up the street close proximity to sort of 455 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:56,000 the olympic drive area there running east-west 456 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:02,000 and so you kind of have again better access to uh to facilities 457 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:06,720 even like local restaurants and other types of amenities that can 458 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,760 help serve some of these special events and the things that go along with the 459 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,800 rec center and even the potential for reporting 460 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:15,520 some of the cons of course is it is a ground-up build 461 00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:18,399 you know so you're talking about bringing full level of utilities to the 462 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,599 site some of the costs that are identified 463 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,440 there i know some people probably get some sticker shock we are still in a 464 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:29,760 very escalating market when it comes to construction across the state and so 465 00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:34,159 it's more likely that we're going to see you know those prices continue to 466 00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:39,119 increase and so those are probably the only cons in the dressing say a ground 467 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:41,919 up site versus a renovation opportunity like like 468 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:49,040 so um as sort of a summary and next steps some of the recommendations moving 469 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:53,679 forward one of the things that we would recommend as part of really the second 470 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:58,800 phase we identified it briefly in the first phase report but is is 471 00:34:55,359 --> 00:35:02,640 facilitating a strategic market analysis so perhaps utilizing surveys conducted 472 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:06,160 via social media you have a lot of social media outlets 473 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,720 as part of the report we identified some of the key questions that should be 474 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:14,160 asked and how maybe perhaps some of that 475 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:17,040 social media survey might be operated we got a lot of feedback from the folks 476 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,720 on the lake county recreation task force a lot 477 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:25,040 of the members that were identified and the partners there 478 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,280 while that may be strong that doesn't necessarily identify the core need and 479 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:32,160 there may be other needs or other pieces that are identified and so i think 480 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:35,920 that's very important as you think about the potential of 481 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,760 partnering perhaps with other folks or even building a recreation type 482 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:43,599 of facility on your own of just what sort of market analysis 483 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:48,160 that and and what sort of programmatic needs 484 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,320 are they really looking to have there what we show is really kind of a blended 485 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:56,320 group of priorities as a result of sort of across the county 486 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:00,960 narrowing down the location not so much in your case the location but the 487 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:04,800 funding opportunities how would you fund such a a program 488 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:09,680 both from a capital cost standpoint and an ongoing operational and maintenance 489 00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:14,160 standpoint the cost recovery examples that we showed you earlier and 490 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:19,119 then really our phase two component to the report uh would enable you to then 491 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:22,880 do some actual conceptual layouts so if it is burns valley and there is an 492 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,119 identification of land there identified as part of that 493 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,480 master plan you know what might that program really hold 494 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,680 what sort of conceptual design might emerge from that that then we use to put 495 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:39,680 together a more professional cost destination 496 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:44,960 and operational analysis and then be able to finalize that report so that you 497 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,680 really have a target there in terms of what you're looking to fund and how much 498 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,680 funding that would occur at that point perhaps 499 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,920 you might look at solidifying joint use opportunities 500 00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:59,359 other sorts of things don't really see is that the special district is perhaps 501 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,760 something that might come to fruition but perhaps it is 502 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:07,599 like was identified at truckee donner but more than likely some sort of either 503 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:10,800 joint powers agreement joy use type of agreement or even joint development 504 00:37:09,359 --> 00:37:13,839 amongst yourselves the local school districts and some of 505 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:18,079 the other private entities that were identified 506 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:23,200 local nonprofit entities that were identified here 507 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,720 so with that um i'm going to turn it over for those that might have question 508 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,440 and answer in fact i'll take this off of there so hopefully you can see us a 509 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:32,800 little bit better um 510 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:38,880 but happy to uh to answer the questions you might have at this point regarding 511 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,880 phase one in that portion of the study 512 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:48,480 you you didn't have identified anything in the south county uh middletown and 513 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:53,680 kelseyville between lake port and clearly why is that 514 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:58,640 that's a good question um you know really as part of the the discovery that 515 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:04,800 was an area that really wasn't something that i think people felt was was 516 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:09,680 either high need or perhaps um something that neither one of the cities 517 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:13,119 has sort of said on lake county i think while they're sort of orchestrating a 518 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:18,800 lot of this i don't see them as maybe perhaps being a huge 519 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:23,200 dollar partner in the process and so when you start to look outside of 520 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,920 sort of the city areas proper city of lakeport 521 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:30,000 city of clear lake it becomes more challenging 522 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:33,599 trying to figure out who becomes the lead agency 523 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,680 and how do you really fund that definitely there's there's need i'll say 524 00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:41,040 coming from that region you have the school district in that 525 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:45,440 region you have other elements but certainly from a less populated area 526 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:49,520 you're talking about something or maybe even two centers you know one in 527 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:54,079 lakeport one in clear lake that really drive folks uh from that south county 528 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,200 area you know into the more populated centers of either lake port or the city 529 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:01,920 of cleveland do you think it can be funded through a 530 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,960 lighting and landscaping kind of district 531 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,920 mike you want to jump in i think there are 532 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,800 the short answer is can it yes i think it has to do with how much 533 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:23,200 undeveloped land use currently exists in either of the just 534 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:28,480 jurisdictions probably the more common method today versus lighting landscape 535 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:32,000 is like a community facility district for service that can be used to fund 536 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,320 capital but typically the creating that 537 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:41,280 assessment on is usually typically on new properties 538 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,839 otherwise you can do it you can establish a community facility district 539 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:51,040 but if it's on existing uh residential property it would require uh voter 540 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:54,320 approval um so it's possible that you could do that 541 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:58,720 but you know so somebody might you know if you're gonna go to voter approval for 542 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,079 something like that you would certainly that would be 543 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,560 certainly one right answer establishing a 544 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:10,720 overlaying community facility district for service or capital to do that 545 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:17,520 similarly you could um a jurisdiction could do a bond measure um that um the 546 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:22,480 either either on your own or in concert with the other jurisdictions that you 547 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:29,200 might be partnering with or or like um you know the fort bragg and the city 548 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:33,440 or menacing coast did a tax measure so all of those then require voter approval 549 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:45,720 established before any homes get built is going to require the homeowners 550 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,720 to approve that 551 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,160 i hope i answered that question 552 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:07,200 how did you get involved in fort bragg because my understanding it was 553 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:15,200 not being used um yeah i i got a call from both the um 554 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:20,000 the city of fort bragg and the um general manager of the mendocino coast 555 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:25,760 recreation park district uh looking for some help in evaluating uh how they 556 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:30,720 could operate their center and pool more cost effectively 557 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:35,920 improve the overall cost recovery and utilization 558 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:40,000 but it was a uh kind of uh early on it was involving both the city 559 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,240 of fort bragg which was contributing a substantial amount of 560 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,880 money every year to offset the operating cost so i ended up giving um 561 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:52,880 to two agencies 562 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,480 in the final recommendations this was really more of an operational analysis 563 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,480 didn't have anything to do with building it 564 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:13,760 any other question well we all know that uh 565 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:18,319 the lakeport school district tried this and it 566 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:25,040 really turned out into a big disaster uh both funding and this so i think we 567 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,839 might have some hesitation on on this this kind of issue 568 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,520 yeah as i mentioned earlier um you know that was that was something that was 569 00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:35,760 brought to our attention uh pretty quickly 570 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,599 um and it's not uncommon 571 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:43,520 you know school districts passing bonds um you know identifying in a master plan 572 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,800 or in a needs assessment that they have you know sometimes three four five times 573 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:51,760 the amount of need then they have you know bonding capacity 574 00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:55,040 one of the things i will offer is that you know a number of school districts 575 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,319 last year you know every two years in effect we 576 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,240 have an opportunity for local school districts to pursue general obligation 577 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:07,040 bonds and so the last year was 2020 the next year will be 2022. 578 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:11,280 interesting and interestingly enough in march of 2020 579 00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:15,119 bonds did not go that well throughout the state and that was 580 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,280 actually prior to covet you know the 581 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:22,960 the primaries were in march they were early march so really kind of before 582 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:28,000 everybody had a sense of what the pandemic was going to do 583 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:32,640 we had some you know talk of out of this this outlying virus and and there was 584 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:36,400 some if you recall some challenges to the stock market at the time and i think 585 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,400 the general settlement across the state of california was 586 00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:43,839 that folks didn't want to to pass 587 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:48,480 local bonds for school districts um fast forward to november of 2020 588 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,079 and we had at least for those school districts that 589 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,880 went after bonds nearly a record in terms of the pass 590 00:43:54,240 --> 00:44:00,960 rate um and and one of the reasons we believe that that occurred was because 591 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:05,760 of the fact that um you know schools were considered essential um and we had 592 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:09,760 folks uh you know depending on what no matter what really the economy was doing 593 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,800 really saying we need to support local school districts and we need to pass 594 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,000 dollars for them whether it be for facilities or for other sorts of 595 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:18,720 programs so i think we're going to see a lot of 596 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,760 school districts try and pursue bonds in 2022 597 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:26,319 and i think there's an opportunity certainly for cities like yourself 598 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,560 and others to reach out and say you know is there a possibility can i die like 599 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:35,200 poor et cetera to reconsider that and to also consider 600 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,040 the need for something like this it could be a true joint use opportunity 601 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,880 natomas unified school district in sacramento did that effectively they 602 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,160 contributed i think around two and a half million 603 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:51,359 dollars now to that north natomas project that we featured earlier and 604 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:56,160 you know it really obviously goes back to the sentiment the politics in your 605 00:44:52,960 --> 00:45:00,000 particular region um but uh you know it's it's interesting how sort of these 606 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,440 things ebb and flow and so the next opportunity could be an opportunity in 607 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,319 2022 sounds like 608 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:10,560 city of clear lake and your relationship with your local school district is a bit 609 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,000 better than perhaps what would happen with lakeport 610 00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:18,400 but definitely that's an opportunity to leverage when it comes to funds 611 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,760 you know school districts can be one of the 612 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:26,640 bigger users certainly an aquatics facility if not a recreational facility 613 00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:30,720 however there is requirement to go through dsa 614 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,720 when it comes to the approval process and sometimes that dsa field act 615 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:38,640 compliance can escalate the cost of a project pretty rapidly you know mike has 616 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,640 some experience in that in the city of roseville with the joint using the 617 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,880 agency thank you 618 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,280 anyways yeah um so 619 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,800 i mean some of this you know i figured that we would talk about when we look at 620 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,480 the site plan but you know this whole process really started 621 00:45:54,640 --> 00:46:00,160 because of the situation that we're talking about in lakeport and the fact 622 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:03,040 that they were promised a pool and they don't have one 623 00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,800 um and then we got involved because some of the 624 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:10,480 things that we were looking at um and i think 625 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:14,560 the timing's really good um while we weren't involved from the beginning 626 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:18,160 we're probably in a position to see this sooner than what's going to 627 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,800 happen in lakeport because of the sports complex and 628 00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:27,920 you know the way we had initially looked at design the focus of course was on 629 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,359 the baseball fields and then being able to add soccer 630 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:36,880 and we had kind of set a little piece off to the side to maybe do a rec center 631 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:41,520 at some point in the future but and going through this process and 632 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:44,960 talking with our school superintendent and some other organizations 633 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:51,680 i really feel like that there's interest and probably available funding there for 634 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:57,920 us to do this uh sooner than expected and 635 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:04,000 so we we redid the design which we'll talk about here in a minute to make a 636 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:08,000 recreation center as part of this whole project and a central part of it 637 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,319 um and so you know it is a big 638 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,000 a big pot of money i mean we don't really have room 639 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,359 at the burns valley location to even consider putting a pool in there 640 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,520 um our our school district doesn't see as 641 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,599 much of a need for that they want to have after-school programs 642 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:32,000 for kids and they think you know this type of a 643 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:37,359 rec center would fulfill that need for a significant period of time 644 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:40,480 and so our thought is to let lake pour 645 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:44,319 folks on a pool if that's what they want to do 646 00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:48,560 we do our sports complex and rec center now 647 00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:52,000 and you know if if the community decides that that they we really need a pool 648 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:56,000 here that's something that we could do kind of was a 649 00:47:53,359 --> 00:48:00,160 next phase project um somewhere else within the city so 650 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:02,880 really what we want from the council tonight is 651 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,040 you know that you kind of like the direction this is going and you're 652 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:11,680 supportive of moving into phase two i mean i think the timing of what brian's 653 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,640 talking about will work perfectly with the master planning process that 654 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:19,119 we're in the middle of for the whole complex right now 655 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:22,720 um and these guys are you know experts in the rec center piece and maybe you 656 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,839 know they can handle that portion of the project 657 00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:30,640 um while we uh you know we'll obviously be engaged but 658 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:34,880 you know kind of our design team's focus will be on on the sports complex 659 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,240 which you know we want to make sure and get that done you know as soon as 660 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,920 possible so um 661 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:46,000 you know the the three entities the two cities and the county 662 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:51,040 um supported the phase one portion of the project financially 663 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:55,599 we haven't come up with a plan at this point on the second phase 664 00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:00,319 i'm sure that we would need to to put some funding in but we had also planned 665 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:04,319 to ask the larger group of partners to participate financially in the phase two 666 00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:07,359 if the three jurisdictions supported moving in that direction 667 00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:18,000 but to be clear the baseball field soccer field portion of it 668 00:49:14,839 --> 00:49:21,040 is as a project that we're going to go forward with 669 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:25,599 the rec center is something that sounds good and we definitely want to look for 670 00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:27,760 the so your group would take care of the rec center 671 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,079 uh brian well i mean yeah i mean that's 672 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:37,200 kind of what i was thinking right i mean we it's important when we do the complex 673 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:40,400 to make sure we have the spot for the rec center in there but 674 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:43,839 i think um 675 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:48,559 and you know i i really think that we will end up being pretty close to having 676 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:53,119 the funding to be able to to make it happen um but from my 677 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:58,079 perspective phase one is the 678 00:49:55,359 --> 00:50:01,599 the ball fields right um and as long as we have the spot there we could always 679 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,079 bring that up you know a little bit later as we put all the pieces together 680 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,040 obviously it takes a lot of years to actually put it all together 681 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,960 but we were gonna we don't like taking 682 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:29,040 is needed in that area so i think it's a great idea to put it all together 683 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:32,640 yeah i concur and i think this community's been asking for a pool for a 684 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:36,559 long time since they built that center 685 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:40,640 the community center was supposed to be right but um just to finish i'd like to 686 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:45,520 see us go forward at least with the planning phase and settings 687 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,480 room aside for it for the rec center for the record yes 688 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:54,079 that's what i'd agree with move forward phase 689 00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:56,800 one and plan for phase two and just to be clear 690 00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:02,240 and just to be clear you said we're close on on funding that's without a 691 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:05,920 bond or any type of assessment correct yeah i mean you know 692 00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:12,079 it's it's helping us out and you know maybe we should just start kind 693 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,079 of transitioning into talking about um 694 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:19,280 the the site plan a little bit but because 695 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:23,839 of all the the kind of mixed use nature of the burns valley project in 696 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:27,760 general you know it provides us the opportunity to leverage a lot of other 697 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:31,440 funds um 698 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:36,480 but yeah i feel like that really we're we're not going to be too far off on 699 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,359 on being able to fund the whole complex and the rec center 700 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,319 okay 701 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:52,160 you're going to pull that yeah so i'm going to pull this up 702 00:51:48,839 --> 00:51:52,160 um and 703 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:58,240 let me let me zoom out slightly just to give you all some context so we 704 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,920 have olympic drive down here on the bottom 705 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:05,599 uh burns valley road here that that comes around to the north this 706 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:09,760 is the safeway complex so 707 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:14,880 um you know this is a 31 acre property that the city purchased 708 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,990 in december and there's you know i mentioned mixed 709 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:22,060 use there's several components [Music] 710 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:27,599 to this i'm going to start over here with um 711 00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:33,599 this section which is will be for new public works yard 712 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:37,599 this is a public works yard shop in addition there's some 713 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:42,400 space here for the police department for evidence storage and 714 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:47,040 vehicle processing which is needed in certain crimes 715 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:51,839 and so this area would be fenced and lighted 716 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:56,880 storage back here for vehicles that are towed and so forth 717 00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:59,680 material storage equipment storage all that 718 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:03,599 and so there would be a new roadway installed 719 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,640 on this hundred foot property that's between the pg e public works or 720 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:13,520 corporation yard and the burns valley mall complex 721 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:18,000 so this would include a roadway into the site 722 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:23,760 some parking and then this is the location of the mudslingers kiosk where 723 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:27,359 the council approved that um that coffee 724 00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:30,960 building so we'd be we have a lease agreement in place for them 725 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:33,760 which should be kind of a nice amenity to sort of be part of the part of the 726 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,079 park um 727 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,000 the corporation yard gets funded differently 728 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:48,000 yeah so that's a different part of funding so the plan is we're working on 729 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,920 the design um of 730 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:57,680 the the plan is to do this section here into the site this section of roadway 731 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:03,359 the fencing the light the sight lighting and all the 732 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:07,440 utilities for the complex um this year yet 733 00:54:05,839 --> 00:54:12,480 and as long as 734 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,480 as long as mr schwartz 735 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,400 there's no reason that's not going to happen right dave 736 00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:33,760 um and then the the rest of this project would um start 737 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:39,839 um at some time next year along with the the housing component 738 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,760 so um the rest of the site 739 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,559 i'll just kind of start from i keep getting my zoom things and dragging them 740 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,040 around instead of um so we'll just start here on the west 741 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:57,040 and work back to the east so this is a um a soccer field 742 00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,880 um this is depressed with a little berm around here to keep balls from flying 743 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:06,319 out into the street as much as possible we do have a 744 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:10,640 lot of room and we worked with um you know our partners with the the soccer 745 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:14,640 league and so forth and i won't take the time to pull it up but now but there's 746 00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:19,760 the ability to have as many as eight to ten different games 747 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,599 going in this area depending on the 748 00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:25,920 [Music] size of the fields and 749 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,119 they're really comfortable with the size that we have here 750 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:33,119 we are hopeful at some point in the future we'll be able to expand the 751 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:38,960 soccer amenities into another nearby area but um 752 00:55:35,839 --> 00:55:43,440 so we have a you know large parking area here um drop-off zones and whatnot 753 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:47,920 there's area for tour buses for um our little league and 754 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:53,119 soccer tournaments to be able to drop folks off 755 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:57,440 this this is very rough but this is a general location where we'd expect the 756 00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:02,559 rec center to be located we haven't really focused much on design but the 15 757 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:06,640 000 square foot footprint and then additional space here the idea 758 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:11,119 is to combine and allow bathrooms for the 759 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:15,520 complex to be accessible from the outside so that you 760 00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:18,160 know nothing was happening in the rec center 761 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:23,760 there's still some games going on outside it's just a way to be able to 762 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:28,240 cut the the costs for developing the site 763 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:32,720 and then so we have two of the smaller fields here and then the large baseball 764 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,640 field over in this area we have additional parking 765 00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:41,040 um here and here what you see here is a lot of 766 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:45,599 extra space that we haven't detailed out yet some of this 767 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:48,640 would be designated for a t-ball field um 768 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:53,760 for the little guys and then there's plenty of room we intend to have 769 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,839 playground equipment and some other amenities so you know 770 00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:03,440 when the family's there everyone has something to to keep them entertained 771 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:07,280 these designs include you know announcer's booths batting 772 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:12,799 cages bleachers plenty of warm-up area 773 00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:18,480 and then of course a road all the way through the site here 774 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:22,960 um and then the housing development um which is in the process up here which is 775 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:26,240 80 units of mixed income family housing 776 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,799 what we've been able to do partnering with them is 777 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,799 um funding this is about a 50 million 778 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:37,920 dollar project and their funding we've connected 779 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:41,200 um directly into the forest complex and so some of the funding that they're 780 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:45,839 going to be pulling down we'll be able to use actually for 781 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,079 installing all this infrastructure at the site which is going to help 782 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,440 you know keep the the costs you know the other funding 783 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,920 sources that we need down which which is going to be really nice 784 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:01,599 um so that's kind of the super quick 785 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:06,240 overview and um try to address any questions 786 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:09,839 that the the council has about the plan 787 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:17,760 i want to thank um the ladies from little league and uh 788 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:23,559 where is george soccer yeah he's not here 789 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,559 thanks for watching with us 790 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,880 these fields would all be 791 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:52,319 so when it's not baseball season can these be used for other sports 792 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:55,440 i don't know why not i mean i know we're gonna be playing all year round 793 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:04,200 being more competitive when we travel therefore we need to have baseball 794 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:16,720 the outfields could be used for like the five-year-old soccer games could be set 795 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,960 up in the outfields yes we have 796 00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:51,520 pretty much when they're using the facilities in middletown 797 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:55,359 i've been here for 35 plus years i played soccer and baseball 798 00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:58,000 all the way through high school i played on these same fields we play on right 799 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,119 now with baseball and i did the same thing as a kid traveling in middle of 800 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,079 town so i definitely and i have three sons 801 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:11,119 so i totally understand we need to have more stuff in town so i'm totally not 802 01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:11,119 against ever letting anybody help you 803 01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:17,520 well anybody else in the comments from the audience here 804 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,559 awesome 805 01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:30,640 yeah i just had a i had a question are these designs final are we gonna do a 806 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640 public hearing at some point 807 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,760 well um i guess that's up to the council i 808 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:40,400 mean we normally don't do a public hearing on the designs um 809 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:46,640 the i mean well i should i should take that back we we plan to apply for a 810 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:51,280 state parks grant for a portion of this project which 811 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:55,520 is due i think in november of this year so 812 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:59,280 um we have an agreement with a great the same grant writing team that we worked 813 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:03,440 with for the highlands park project which we still don't know is funded or 814 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:07,760 not yet but that the requirements of that grant will 815 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,280 include a number of public meetings like we had 816 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:15,440 for highlands park um you know as a requirement so we've 817 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,720 been working trying to get all this stuff 818 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:23,119 uh sort of sorted out and we've been you know using our city engineer and his 819 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:26,880 team so that we can start on the main infrastructure and the public works 820 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:32,799 piece of it we will be using a landscape architect 821 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:38,400 as part of the grant process to further refine some of these points of the plan 822 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:43,200 like i mentioned the t-ball thing and the playground equipment some of those 823 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,720 other site amenities um you know if dave had his way everything would be concrete 824 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:53,799 and asphalt so um we need to we need to bring someone 825 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:53,799 else in to help help us with that 826 01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:03,200 so there will be there will be a number of opportunities for the public to 827 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:07,280 review and provide input on the plan yes so that will be a planning commission 828 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,520 item uh normally we don't do a planning 829 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:17,119 commission item for that but i mean you know we could if you would like us to 830 01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:21,040 i think there's more people coming out when you have something noticed that 831 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,440 well like the public meeting meetings are doing 832 01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:27,119 this part you know i mean what what the council 833 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:31,440 directed was creating this committee to work with which is what we've been doing 834 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:35,359 but you know i know that there's a lot of interest in this project and we need 835 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,640 some ways to bring in whatever you think is the right way to 836 01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:42,240 do it council can give us additional direction on how you want us to do that 837 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:45,680 all right i do think that we should have an 838 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:50,240 opportunity for folks outside of the committee to weigh in 839 01:02:47,839 --> 01:02:53,520 the other question i had was around the soccer field i know i had brought this 840 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:58,240 up but i i don't know if it was discussed in the committee 841 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,960 a grass field versus a turf field and if that was considered 842 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:09,920 currently we're planning turf on the soccer field you are okay excellent yes 843 01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,920 all right that's good 844 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:17,039 all right even though even though cancer probably caused a 845 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:22,400 high rate answered i think we're workshop is over 846 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:27,119 and we'll take a couple minute breaks a couple of minutes break to 847 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,119 get a council meeting going so 848 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,640 test 849 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:13,839 i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the 850 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:20,159 republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty just 851 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:20,159 for all right 852 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:26,000 yes sir sir 853 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,199 father in heaven we ask that you would join with us tonight that your spirit 854 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:34,480 would lead and guide us to do the good business for this city 855 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:38,960 we may be able to be able to better serve our community and the guests who 856 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:44,319 come to visit us whether we ask a special blessing to be on the staff and 857 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:49,279 families who live here they may be prosperous and have 858 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:54,239 safety in their travels whether we ask for this all in your 859 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,239 son's holy name amen amen 860 01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,040 all right 861 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:06,960 see the adoption of the agenda are there any changes to the agenda 862 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:10,960 no changes mr mayor make a motion to adopt the agenda is submitted no second 863 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:17,839 time we have a motion by vice mayor burdock in a second by 864 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,839 mr kramer all in favor aye aye aye 865 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:25,520 all right we'll go to presentations number two presentations of july 866 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,520 adoptable dogs 867 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,279 good evening mayor members of the council unfortunately tonight we do not 868 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,359 have a we have dogs available we did not have 869 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:39,359 staffing to um bring one in for the meeting tonight um however i'm gonna go 870 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:44,480 over the stats real quick um so far this year we've taken a 194 dogs 871 01:09:41,679 --> 01:09:49,520 into the shelter uh 192 have left the shelter 104 have gone to rescue 60 have 872 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:53,120 been returned to the owners 21 have been adopted 873 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:57,520 six have been euthanized and we have the ones still on here that escaped um so 874 01:09:55,440 --> 01:10:02,719 our live release rate is still pretty good we're down a tiny bit but we're at 875 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:06,080 96.9 percent so we're still doing really good and hopefully we'll keep that up 876 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,360 for the rest of the year can you say something about an escape 877 01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:13,199 yeah oh that one's been there for a couple months but yeah we had one 878 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:16,719 a while back um he was able to get out of his cage inside the new building and 879 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,679 then when he got out he found a window that was a couple inches open he pushed 880 01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:22,480 the window up then he pushed the screen off went out 881 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,000 to the door and where he went out is a 882 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,360 fenced in area that has the building on one side and then has 883 01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:32,400 that probably eight foot fence on the other side and he dug a hole and then 884 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:36,000 came out on the airport road and disappeared industrious dog we got him 885 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,840 back later but um i think i think he had help but yeah 886 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:45,040 but he he wanted some freedom for a little bit 887 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,640 all right thank you very much all right let's go to number three 888 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:55,920 presentation of the regional transportation plan 889 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,920 uh mr alford who is doing that today 890 01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:03,280 uh is miss bates going to be presenting okay 891 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,280 lisa 892 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:11,560 here us hello 893 01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:11,560 there she is 894 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:19,600 let us start our video sorry yes we can hear you late 895 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:23,120 we're getting rummy okay quick hi hi hi uh 896 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:26,320 john spka and this is lisa david bates we're with the 897 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:31,520 lake area planning council the regional transportation planning agency 898 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:36,239 for this region of which um your council members 899 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:40,320 herdock and kramer are on our board we just want to give a quick 900 01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:44,960 presentation of our upcoming regional transportation plan we're 901 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:50,480 still seeking uh public input and we have a social pin a social 902 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:54,480 pinpoint website that has a bunch of interactive 903 01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:58,640 activities that you can leave comments and such on but 904 01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:03,920 we're going to give a short presentation um it's about eight minutes long and it 905 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:09,120 will it'll explain what the regional transportation plan is and how you can 906 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:14,400 provide feedback uh 907 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:19,320 let me see do we have access to uh or do we have permission to share here you 908 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,320 should 909 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:33,440 okay so here is the presentation [Music] 910 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:37,040 welcome to a brief presentation of the 20 911 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,679 make sure hold on i just want to make sure 912 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:45,760 you could hear that could everyone hear that 22 regional transportation plan and 913 01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:49,360 active transportation plan update both plans are being prepared by the 914 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:55,120 lake area planning council which serves as the regional transportation planning 915 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,120 agency for the lake county region 916 01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:02,159 the lake apc board is made up of two county supervisors from the county of 917 01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:06,320 lake and two city council members from each of its two incorporated cities the 918 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:09,360 city of lake port and the city of clear lake 919 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:13,280 two at-large members are also appointed to serve as directors rounding out the 920 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:17,520 board's eight-person makeup the primary advisory bodies for the lake 921 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:21,840 apc include the technical advisory committee which consists of public works 922 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,600 and community development officials from each of the three jurisdictions as well 923 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,520 as representatives from the california highway patrol the lake transit 924 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,800 authority and the caltrans district one office 925 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:38,320 the second important advisory body to the area planning council is the social 926 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:41,920 services transportation advisory council this group advises on matters involving 927 01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:46,880 transit dependent individuals within the region including the elderly disabled 928 01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:49,440 and persons of the limited means additional duties of the lake area 929 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:54,080 planning council include the administration of the call box program 930 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:58,880 otherwise known as the lake service authority for freeway emergencies 931 01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:04,159 and finally lake abc council members also serve a separate role as the board 932 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,159 for the lake transit authority 933 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,400 the primary function of the lake apc is to allocate federal and state 934 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,920 transportation funds to projects within the lake county region 935 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:17,840 funding is derived from a variety of state and federal programs each having 936 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:22,800 separate goals addressing public needs ranging from road safety to greenhouse 937 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:26,840 gas emissions reduction to the promotion of healthy lifestyles through active 938 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:31,840 forms of transportation like walking or biking like abc also assists regional 939 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:36,000 and local agencies including public works departments of the county and 940 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:41,280 cities as well as the region's transit agency in identifying or applying for 941 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:45,040 potential funds for priority projects these can often be time-consuming 942 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,719 processes especially for staffs with local agencies that might lack the 943 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:52,080 resources or time to compete for such funds 944 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:57,199 finally as the regional transportation planning agency the lake apc is tasked 945 01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:02,480 with preparing the region's long-range transportation planning document 946 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:06,159 this regional transportation plan helps guide the decision-making process by 947 01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:09,400 setting long-range transportation goals for the region 948 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:16,159 so what is the regional transportation plan 949 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:19,679 as noted it is the area's long-range planning document for all forms of 950 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:23,440 transportation throughout lake county and its cities 951 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:27,120 it covers a 20-year horizon and is updated every four years to reflect 952 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:30,640 changing conditions in the region over time 953 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,600 its main purpose is to promote safe and efficient transportation for the 954 01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:37,280 movement of people and goods throughout the region 955 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:41,840 examples of this are found in projects improving unsafe road conditions or 956 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:46,000 dangerous intersection crosswalks or else reducing congestion to improve 957 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:50,239 trekking delivery routes basically anything that helps to connect 958 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:53,280 community members with areas both within or outside of their immediate 959 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:57,840 surroundings land includes all transportation modes 960 01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:02,800 in lake county such as highways streets and roads transit services pedestrian 961 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,800 facilities and bicycle lanes among others 962 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:12,159 update process also covers an update to the active transportation plan 963 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:15,360 so what is the active transportation plan 964 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:19,520 this is a plan that focuses on improving and integrating bicycle and pedestrian 965 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:22,960 networks throughout the region essentially it is a focused form of 966 01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:28,159 transportation that deals with non-motorized or active transportation 967 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:32,000 projects within the active transportation plan are eligible to 968 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:35,679 apply for grants under a specific state program known as the active 969 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:38,960 transportation program this is a highly competitive grant 970 01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:42,080 program that rewards well-planned high-priority projects which are 971 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:45,920 evaluated as part of the active transportation plan 972 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:50,640 lake county adopted its first active transportation plan in 2016. 973 01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:54,800 prior to that the regional transportation plan would normally 974 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:58,159 include a section or element that covered non-motorized forms of 975 01:16:56,480 --> 01:17:04,400 transportation for the previous rtp update in 2017 it 976 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:07,920 was decided that the 2016 active transportation plan 977 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:12,880 would now serve as that component of the rtp and both plans will be updated in 978 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:16,880 conjunction from that point on the active transportation plan therefore 979 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:21,199 serves two purposes one as the non-motorized element and also as a 980 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:24,640 stand-alone document for projects that can potentially be funded by future 981 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:27,040 rounds of the active transportation program 982 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:33,600 identifying needs and priorities for the region is a big part of either plan 983 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:37,920 there are plenty of needs to choose from for each transportation mode whether 984 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:42,840 they are on state highways or local roads or serve bicycle and pedestrian 985 01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:49,040 purposes or public transit etc identifying those needs is important 986 01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:53,120 but prioritizing maybe even more so this is done by soliciting feedback from 987 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:57,920 local public works departments state agencies tribal governments and your 988 01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:02,080 voices from the general public to determine how the next 20 years worth of 989 01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:05,440 improvements should unfold prioritizing is especially important 990 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:09,760 because there are far more needs than available funding can accommodate 991 01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:14,000 the rtp seeks to guide how these limited dollars should be spent 992 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,560 the process will look something like this 993 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:19,440 from now through the summer we will be seeking public input to help guide the 994 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:23,440 update by mid-spring we will have an idea of 995 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:26,400 the local and regional needs and how important they'll be in meeting the 996 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,199 overall transportation goals of the region 997 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,880 a draft of the updated regional transportation plan and active 998 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:37,280 transportation plan as well as the environmental review documents for each 999 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:42,000 should be posted by late summer there will be a comment period specified 1000 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:45,440 for the documents at that time as well finally we expect to present a final 1001 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:50,080 draft to the board of the lake area planning council by the end of the fall 1002 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:54,080 these will be publicly noticed meetings where additional comments can be made by 1003 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:58,719 the public along with those of the area planning council board prior to the plan 1004 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,719 of adoption 1005 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:05,520 again we want to stress that your voice is important to this process 1006 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:09,280 transportation needs and issues that you bring up will be evaluated as part of 1007 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:12,719 the regional transportation plan and this will ultimately guide what the 1008 01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:16,960 final plan will look like whether it's road safety or sidewalk 1009 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:20,880 accessibility or transit system improvements or any barriers that make 1010 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:24,719 different forms of transportation more difficult in your local community we 1011 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:28,400 want to know so please make your voices heard 1012 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:35,840 here are the best ways to provide input you can go to the website for the update 1013 01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:39,679 project which can be accessed at the web address in red 1014 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:43,840 the site is interactive and will allow you to provide comments on maps in which 1015 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,520 you can pin written comments at specific locations within your community or the 1016 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,480 region as a whole it will also include surveys and budget 1017 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,640 exercises where you give us your feedback on where 1018 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:59,199 your concerns lie or which projects you believe aren't the most funding 1019 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:03,920 or feel free to email or write letters to staff myself john spika senior 1020 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:07,600 transportation planner at the email address in red 1021 01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:11,840 or else at the physical mailing address below that 1022 01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:16,880 lake area planning council 525 south main street suite g ukaya california 1023 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:22,560 we 95482 forward to hearing from you and thank 1024 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,560 you for participating 1025 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:34,640 okay so um yeah hopefully if that was clear enough for 1026 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:38,800 you all to hear and such but the 1027 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:42,880 main idea again is is we've like as much public input as we can get on 1028 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:47,199 the plan and 1029 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:51,199 the website that we are referring to is um seen here 1030 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:56,000 i just wanted to show you a couple of the features of the website um 1031 01:20:54,080 --> 01:21:00,159 and presentations there uh that we just saw 1032 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:05,199 there's uh if you scroll down there's the interactive activities including say 1033 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,400 the interactive map which 1034 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,480 by clicking on you'll 1035 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:15,840 see you could scroll in 1036 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,840 for instance 1037 01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:25,120 your city and you could go to whatever intersection or 1038 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:30,400 you know any other area that you think deserves some attention as far as some 1039 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:34,719 type of transportation activity again sidewalks or road improvements or 1040 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:39,760 whatnot and then by clicking on it 1041 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:43,120 you are clicking up here i'm sorry you could 1042 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:46,640 say what type of project you're after or you're most interested in you can leave 1043 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:52,410 an actual comment there um that will show up on the map and we 1044 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:58,480 could gather those towards the end [Music] 1045 01:21:54,840 --> 01:22:04,400 um there's also a survey by clicking on and it kind of just gives an overview of 1046 01:22:02,239 --> 01:22:07,280 where the comments are coming from or the location for where the queen new 1047 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:12,000 members live you know age and some 1048 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:15,600 standard demographic information and what type of you know transportation 1049 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:20,800 is is most used um 1050 01:22:17,679 --> 01:22:25,920 or you know those types of questions so that would um again give us some 1051 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:29,040 insight as to where we should focus 1052 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:33,440 um and then finally there's these two budget exercises on the right side uh 1053 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:36,960 each from one's for the regional transportation 1054 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:41,840 plan budget and uh it you just get an idea of you 1055 01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:44,560 could go down this list of different types of projects 1056 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:48,159 and you start with a hundred dollars and you 1057 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:51,040 spend your way down to zero um 1058 01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:55,600 you know just kind of it gives you an idea of 1059 01:22:53,280 --> 01:23:01,840 what you have left and actually fortunately it goes beyond a hundred so 1060 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:04,159 you have to be cognizant of uh where to stop 1061 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,440 um there's that one and then there's a 1062 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,400 second one that gives uh active transportation 1063 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:18,880 projects that are really more specific to walking or biking type projects and 1064 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:23,199 what uh you know the specific projects that you would think deserve 1065 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,800 specific amounts of funding or you know in proportion to the hundred dollars the 1066 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:29,760 same idea for as the last one 1067 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:36,080 so that is our quick little spiel here and um 1068 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:40,000 happy to answer any questions that you might have um again we're trying to get 1069 01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:44,480 the word out as much as possible too and that's 1070 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:49,840 our presentation here and to other uh organizations and groups 1071 01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:49,840 so uh 1072 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,719 any questions 1073 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:59,040 just a quick question would will these be linked to the city and county 1074 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,520 websites for people who may be navigating those 1075 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:10,159 uh we we could do that in fact that probably 1076 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:15,520 make it simpler which is always good um 1077 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:19,520 i could contact would it be melissa with the city to see if i could get that up 1078 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:26,000 on the city website sounds like a perfect idea john 1079 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,000 i believe that it's correct 1080 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:33,920 and or you can just type in lake apc and uh you know you'll 1081 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:38,960 see this on the home page it's fairly easy to find 1082 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:43,120 stop sharing the screen unless anybody has any questions uh 1083 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:47,280 specific to the interactive activities that we just 1084 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,280 showed you 1085 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:55,280 i don't have any additional ones no questions 1086 01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:59,120 no questions from the council thank you appreciate it okay we 1087 01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:04,560 appreciate appreciate the chance to give you the presentation thanks a lot 1088 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:09,360 thank you thanks john lisa thanks thank you very soon 1089 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:13,920 we go to item number four presentation about cyanobacteria outreach work group 1090 01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:18,800 well looks like there's some people in the audience that 1091 01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:18,800 would like to talk about us 1092 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,239 way smarter than me 1093 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,520 do you have anything that you want to put on the screen too we have some 1094 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:33,440 presenters that are on zoom and denise pomeroy from public health has a 1095 01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:35,840 presentation to share press their kids okay cool 1096 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:40,400 welcome denise hi good evening city council of clear 1097 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:45,360 lake i appreciate the opportunity to present with you tonight 1098 01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:51,199 um i'm gonna try to share my screen and plug our presentation i think we have it 1099 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:55,360 down to about 15 minutes so 1100 01:25:52,239 --> 01:26:00,080 hopefully this is going to work so we all are in this electronic system 1101 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,080 area 1102 01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:10,320 see all right can you see my screen 1103 01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:13,840 yes yes we can all right so 1104 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:18,159 uh lake county cyanobacteria communication work group this is a 1105 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:23,360 multi-agency update to um that we're going around to giving 1106 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:29,440 both to the cities and the county um back in july of 2017 and again in 1107 01:26:26,719 --> 01:26:34,639 2018 the board of supervisors for the county directed staff to establish a 1108 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:39,120 county-wide strategy and incorporate the cities and community partners for a 1109 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:43,280 long-term all-sector approach to cyanohab 1110 01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:48,800 systems factual and consent messaging to businesses and general public on 1111 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:53,840 have related issues this has been a very good collaboration 1112 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:58,719 between both cities county and some of our tribal partners 1113 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:07,679 um following up from our prior year's um board of supervisors recommendation the 1114 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:11,600 county developed uniform education about cyanobacteria 1115 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:16,560 um the last couple of years the work group 1116 01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:21,840 which is both cities county and our tribal partners uh water resources 1117 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:27,040 and special districts environmental health 1118 01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:33,040 have been working on um the potential impacts the progress the 1119 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:38,320 current lake conditions and uniformed messaging to not only just our community 1120 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:42,639 but to the the wide variety of communities that visits lake counties 1121 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:51,760 we've moved from a reactive mode to a proactive mode and we 1122 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:56,800 work hard to communicate to all the sectors that are impacted 1123 01:27:53,840 --> 01:28:02,800 uniformed and communications addressed through social media and other avenues 1124 01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:09,760 have been a huge success for our communications out to the public 1125 01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:09,760 regarding these challenges 1126 01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:17,159 so i'm going to let angela take it from here on what is cyanobacteria 1127 01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:23,280 thank you very much for having me today i'm angela de palmadao i'm in water 1128 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:26,719 resources i'm a program coordinator over there for county blake 1129 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,880 so cyanobacteria even though they're sometimes confused as an algae they are 1130 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:35,840 a bacteria they photosynthesize so they do convert co2 from the air into oxygen 1131 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:40,320 that goes both into the air and the water they're very old they've been here 1132 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:42,960 in clear lake for thousands of years and 1133 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:48,800 the same conditions that promote cyanobacteria warm weather still calm 1134 01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:52,320 shallow waters and nutrient waters are the same things that promote the green 1135 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:56,800 algae which is different than cyanobacteria and that's why we have a 1136 01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:01,920 world-class fishery here we have a really productive waters and all those 1137 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:04,800 factors that promote the green algae which feed our fish 1138 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:08,639 and promote our industry our fishing industry are also the same things that 1139 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:12,719 promote cyanobacteria blooms that we have in the lake um and so even though 1140 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:16,480 we care these things are both important to us they're just in different ways and 1141 01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:19,760 they're both driven by the same factors next slide 1142 01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:24,000 so what makes a harmful algal bloom harmful and again that's not an algae 1143 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:28,080 we're talking about cyanobacteria so when there's an over abundance of 1144 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:32,080 favorable conditions just like right now it's warm we have a lot of nutrients 1145 01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:36,239 you're going to get a big abundant bloom growth of the cyanobacteria and they can 1146 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,400 produce toxins some of the strains can produce toxins not all of them and we 1147 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:43,840 really don't know what specifically promotes the toxins to be there they 1148 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:47,920 don't all produce the same toxins at the same time in the same amounts 1149 01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:51,760 but some of them do produce the toxins and 1150 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:54,880 just because there's a bloom present doesn't necessarily mean that there's 1151 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:58,239 going to be toxins of a certain level and same thing there could be no bloom 1152 01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:02,239 present you might have some toxins if you have some of the strain present that 1153 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:06,320 does produce the toxins so we really rely on that monitoring data to be able 1154 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:12,080 to tell us if they're toxin present and is there not and what level is it and is 1155 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:12,080 it of a health hazard level concern 1156 01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:20,080 so we want to thank all of our stakeholders who work 1157 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:25,520 on this project with us and who's been a collaborative partner for the last 1158 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:29,600 four years or so um collectively the team has developed and had consensus on 1159 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,679 all the work that we've completed to date 1160 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:37,520 we definitely clarify that these are work group participants but everyone who 1161 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:43,760 lives or visits lake county is a stakeholder 1162 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:49,600 they have a voice or should have a voice in our lake it's our biggest asset among 1163 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:52,480 our people in lake county 1164 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,320 sarah 1165 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:02,639 hi good evening sarah ryan the big valley band of pomo indians 1166 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:05,840 environmental director i have spoken before 1167 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:10,159 you guys before on cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins in our program so it's great 1168 01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:14,960 to be a part of a collaborative effort of the county and 1169 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:20,639 the cities and other stakeholders in terms of communicating these results 1170 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:23,040 as well as the conditions of the lake so 1171 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:26,639 as you probably know and you've heard that cyanobacteria is not just happening 1172 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:30,400 on clear lakes cyanotoxins are not just on clear lake they are 1173 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:34,880 throughout the world of course what affects us most is what's 1174 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:40,080 here so having blooms here and having toxins here is is concerning but it is 1175 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:45,520 something that even back in the 1990s the world health organization developed 1176 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:49,840 standards for exposures to cyanotoxins the state of california took a while to 1177 01:31:47,679 --> 01:31:54,080 get to those standards they're still not full standards but there are 1178 01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:59,440 recommendations for exposures for both drinking water and recreation us epa has 1179 01:31:57,199 --> 01:32:05,440 also just recently finalized standards for recreational exposure to cyanotoxins 1180 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:10,080 but it is a worldwide problem if we can move to the next slide please 1181 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:15,360 in california and on there is a very small map but if 1182 01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:19,120 you go to mywaterquality.gov and look under habs harmful algal blooms 1183 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:22,719 you'll see a map that has the most recent results not just from clear lake 1184 01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:26,719 but from all of the water bodies in california where there are 1185 01:32:24,719 --> 01:32:30,560 where there's cyanotoxin monitoring going on clear lake is the most 1186 01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:35,440 monitored lake in california thanks to the tribes um maybe some some people 1187 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:38,320 don't thank the tribes for that but uh you know there's a lot of uses of clear 1188 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:42,560 lake and so it's really important to know what the toxin levels are so we 1189 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:48,639 know which areas should be avoided and which areas are are just fine so 1190 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:52,480 the on that my water quality.gov you can see on the map 1191 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:57,360 it is updated on a regular basis with the toxin results and you can go and so 1192 01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:00,159 people are saying what about clear lake you can always look at some of the other 1193 01:32:58,639 --> 01:33:03,679 water bodies in california that are being tested and what their levels are 1194 01:33:02,159 --> 01:33:06,960 and there's plenty of other water bodies with danger levels 1195 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:09,679 and usually on clear lake we might have some danger levels and other levels will 1196 01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:13,280 be below caution it's not even a problem at 1197 01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:16,380 all so we like to make sure that people understand that as well 1198 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:20,400 next slide please [Music] 1199 01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:25,040 moving to scott i am scott horner with lake county 1200 01:33:22,719 --> 01:33:28,960 special districts uh there is a list of potential impacts there i'm going to 1201 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:32,560 speak to the the water utility there's a direct correlation between the have 1202 01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:35,920 blooms and the increase in cost in producing water 1203 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:39,679 there's increased chemical costs there's increased backwash filter frequency 1204 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:43,920 there's increased operation time there's increased operators time and then 1205 01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:48,960 there's the testing and sampling costs that that are associated with it 1206 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:52,159 and what this leads to is that the citizens and customers that around the 1207 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:55,679 lake whose water utility pulls their water from clear lake are paying a 1208 01:33:53,679 --> 01:33:59,920 higher percentage of their monthly uh gross income to pay for water than our 1209 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:04,960 similar surface water producers throughout the the state so there's a 1210 01:34:02,719 --> 01:34:08,639 there's an impact here for the citizens here and every one of those communities 1211 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:12,960 that's being served by the lake is a disadvantaged community so there's kind 1212 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,960 of a double whammy there 1213 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:22,880 so the emphasis that people have different reactions to cyanotax and just 1214 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:29,760 very much like allergies that you would have um some people have no reaction um 1215 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:35,840 some people have a very sick severe reaction some people get a skin rash 1216 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:40,320 some people especially animals um like dogs and and 1217 01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:46,159 other pets especially livestock and stuff can have a much bigger reaction 1218 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:51,679 they're smaller plus they tend to get in the water or or pull the water with open 1219 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:56,239 mouth so they actually ingest the cyanotoxins 1220 01:34:54,719 --> 01:35:00,800 these reactions vary greatly from a small rash to 1221 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:07,040 neurological issues um we have no actual um 1222 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:11,920 so some of the surveillance for human and veterinary health impacts are you 1223 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:15,280 know we don't have a lot of testing available 1224 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:21,520 that can confirm actual cyanotoxins to health and animals 1225 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:25,520 the tests on animals are usually postmortem 1226 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:30,400 and they take actual liver and kidney and internal 1227 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:36,080 biopsies and test it for certain toxins um and then humans there there really is 1228 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:40,080 none it's it's very much a medical puzzle as to 1229 01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:44,719 what you were doing when you were doing it and 1230 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:47,440 how that works there's a very big piece of under reporting 1231 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:52,400 people swim they don't connect that they were 1232 01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:57,040 swimming in an actual body of water or recreating 1233 01:35:53,920 --> 01:36:01,679 boating fishing whatever um and they just think that they have you know 1234 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:07,360 some type of rash or or symptom so we really do 1235 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:14,639 do a lot of messaging with our physicians and our veterinarians around 1236 01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:19,040 the clinics the ed rooms um to educate the physicians and the clinicians and 1237 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:24,800 the veterinarians on the symptoms of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins in 1238 01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:30,719 humans and in animals so far this summer we don't have any 1239 01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:38,639 confirmed cases but we have had received a few complaints um two for animals and 1240 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:44,109 um two for different for humans that um we've not been able to 1241 01:36:41,050 --> 01:36:44,109 [Music] 1242 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:51,760 completely be confident that it was related to xiaomi toxins but we do have 1243 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:56,800 an investigation process that we do at the health department with the with the 1244 01:36:53,920 --> 01:37:02,639 collaboration of the tribes and testing and the state 1245 01:36:58,719 --> 01:37:08,400 to see if we can make a match um there are here in this slide there 1246 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:14,239 are definitely symptoms it can be from a skin rash which is hard 1247 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:18,239 because you also have swimmers itch and other things that can happen 1248 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:22,880 um in summer and recreation activities out hiking and 1249 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:28,080 stuff but um you know they can be anywhere from a mild rash all the way up 1250 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:33,440 to neurological symptoms and animals we have had a couple of 1251 01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:39,280 confirmed dog deaths related to cyanotax and 1252 01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:41,679 cyanotoxins over the past four or five years 1253 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:49,440 um this is a mutual effort on surveillance and it is a 1254 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:55,040 collaborative project between the effort and investigation 1255 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:58,719 between the parties uh we have water resources big valley 1256 01:37:57,119 --> 01:38:05,280 public health environmental health regional water boards we send out 1257 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:09,119 letters press releases cdc surveillance and public service announcement 1258 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:14,400 we get referrals on a regular basis 1259 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:20,320 of possible symptoms and reactions to the water and 1260 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:24,000 our department along with our partners 1261 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:29,679 um thank you everyone who partners with us um do a complete and full 1262 01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:33,040 investigation on every complaint or case we get 1263 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,440 [Music] sarah 1264 01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:43,280 just to follow up on the on the investigations i mean there is some 1265 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:47,360 funding that has come to big valley to be able to 1266 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:52,560 go take the samples and also send it off to the lab we don't have to pay for that 1267 01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:58,480 and that does happen whenever there is a suspected dog or animal illness 1268 01:38:55,600 --> 01:39:02,239 so the another part of the program is the signage and you have probably seen 1269 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:06,880 those signs online also posted 1270 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:12,960 at various areas and these are signs that were created by the state water 1271 01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:16,800 resources control board and specifically the the people who are working on 1272 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:22,480 cyanotoxins and cyanobacteria so they've been able to because of a toxicological 1273 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:26,960 study on cyanotoxins that was done in uh i believe 2014 by the state 1274 01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:33,040 there are caution warning endangered trigger levels uh based on the toxin 1275 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:36,800 results that they uh recommend that certain 1276 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:42,080 activities do not occur anymore so for caution there's uh at that level you can 1277 01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:46,080 still swim in the area you want to avoid a mat or a bloom 1278 01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:48,960 but you don't want to eat any shellfish from that area there are shellfish in 1279 01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:51,679 this lake so you don't want to eat shellfish because it accumulates 1280 01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:55,679 but at the warning level 1281 01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:58,960 there are more restrictions in terms of letting dogs swim in there having 1282 01:39:57,199 --> 01:40:02,560 children play in there and at the danger level you actually want to avoid it even 1283 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:06,560 in terms of boating because one of the ways that you can be exposed to 1284 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:11,360 cyanotoxins is through the um the mist and inhalation of the irritabilization 1285 01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:14,400 of the toxins so these signs are there to 1286 01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:19,199 inform the public you see those icons of the activities um to inform the public 1287 01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:23,280 about what you can't what's recommended you can and can't do uh with the 1288 01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:26,000 cyanotoxin levels that are there those signs are up 1289 01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:30,960 from the time that we're aware of the toxin levels from the testing and are 1290 01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:34,960 brought back down after there's two completed sampling events where the 1291 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:42,639 toxin levels have dropped and those are based on the state's recommendations for 1292 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,639 taking action on cyanotoxin levels 1293 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,440 okay next next slide angela 1294 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:53,760 okay so some of the progress the milestones that this work group has done 1295 01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:56,960 um is we've encouraged supported tribal monitoring which is essential to this 1296 01:40:55,679 --> 01:40:59,760 work group many of the members of the work group 1297 01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:03,440 participate in local task force on this issue as well 1298 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:07,600 as state programs and it is multi-agency 1299 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:11,040 collaboration so working between the county and the cities 1300 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,960 special districts and the tribes and we have been able to 1301 01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:19,199 produce the signage we have permanent signs around the lake to provide some 1302 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:21,520 basic information to those water users that are accessing the lake through 1303 01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:25,520 public spots and some private areas as well as 1304 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:30,080 well as the temporary signs that sarah just covered we have produced some 1305 01:41:27,679 --> 01:41:32,560 educational materials brochures websites i brought some for you guys today we'll 1306 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:38,159 go over that a little bit in a few slides as well as press releases and um 1307 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:40,880 informative psas so the press releases uh we produce a press release at the 1308 01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:43,840 beginning of the season to give everybody you know the season starting 1309 01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:47,520 it's going to get warm there might be a chance of cyanobacteria what to look for 1310 01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:51,360 who to call and then also 1311 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:55,840 whenever there's a bloom incident or a specific change when there's a danger 1312 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:59,199 area or a lakewide event there will be a press release 1313 01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:03,199 to inform the public of that event and where it was and to give them all the 1314 01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:03,199 information 1315 01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:12,400 sarah so the tribal monitoring 1316 01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:16,400 on the slide you see a map that we produce and put on our website and also 1317 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:20,480 on the facebook page clear lake water quality 1318 01:42:17,440 --> 01:42:24,320 and that's that map is showing not only the locations where we're doing our 1319 01:42:22,239 --> 01:42:29,199 cyanotoxin monitoring we do have some shoreline 1320 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:33,840 we have approximately 23 shoreline sites and some sites that are on the interior 1321 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:37,760 uh that we get water samples from from the county and also uc davis when 1322 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:42,000 they're out there on the lake and we color the the markers based on those 1323 01:42:40,239 --> 01:42:45,199 toxin levels and those coloration of those signs you remember danger was red 1324 01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:47,280 warning was orange and caution was yellow 1325 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:51,600 green means that it's below the caution level 1326 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:57,360 so it's a it's a very visual sign um to to reflect what those toxin levels 1327 01:42:55,040 --> 01:43:01,119 are those we are out there monitoring every two weeks we started this program 1328 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:05,679 in 2014 as you might remember i think i i think i came to the city council in 1329 01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:09,679 2015 to do a presentation um this is a program that started by big valley 1330 01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:14,320 rancheria and elm indian colony and we are continuing to do it with 1331 01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:18,960 funding from the federal government as well as a state government 1332 01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:21,679 the next slide there's actually also 1333 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:26,400 the state the cchab network you can see all the 1334 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:31,360 partners on there cc habs the california cyanobacteria harmful algal bloom 1335 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:35,280 network i co-chair that along with somewhere from dave karen from the 1336 01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:38,800 university of southern california and rebecca stanton from the office of 1337 01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:43,360 environmental health hazard assessment and as we co-chair it we meet with all 1338 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:49,199 the stakeholders we meet quarterly with researchers 1339 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:54,639 vendors and uh government and um the educational you know the academia 1340 01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:59,360 to look at ways that we can improve our programs in the state of california as 1341 01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:03,199 well as solve this problem so know that uh you know that what you have as part 1342 01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:05,679 of this team and as part of you know the the monitoring on the lake is we're 1343 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,920 actually very well connected with the state on 1344 01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:15,440 and have the most recent updated information about studies um there's 1345 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:20,639 also uh federally there is a cyanobacter cyanobacteria assessment 1346 01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:24,400 network and there is um also satellite imagery that we have access to 1347 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:27,400 uh it's not on this page but it's fhab.sfei.org 1348 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:34,800 and you can go on there and look at the satellite imagery of california and 1349 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,400 clear lake right now is standing bright and 1350 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:40,560 red um because of the cyanobacterial bloom 1351 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:45,199 so we have a lot of resources at our hands i guess that's what i'm trying to 1352 01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:48,560 say um and it's a well collaborative uh group of people working on this on 1353 01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:53,840 clearly not only clearly but all the water bodies in california 1354 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,840 and the next slide 1355 01:44:54,480 --> 01:45:01,280 okay so i get all the phone calls when there's um blooms in the lake and if 1356 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:05,119 anything comes in and there's a health hazard in question 1357 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:08,040 i will direct them to this page this is a state page 1358 01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:11,920 and it's the mywaterquality.ca.gov and if you look at 1359 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:16,480 this page on the right hand side in red it says report a bloom so this is the 1360 01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:20,239 first step if someone has any questions of been if they've been exposed to 1361 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:24,400 cyanobacteria bloom and have any potential health hazard 1362 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:28,880 impacts or they have a family member or an animal or pet in their family they go 1363 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:32,159 to that page it's like you scroll twice you fill out the information 1364 01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:35,280 there's a team at the state that responds to this pretty quickly i was 1365 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:38,719 talking to a guy the other day he had filled out the form had called me i 1366 01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:41,600 called him back in about maybe half an hour and he had already talked to 1367 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:46,320 somebody from the state about his issues so they have staff resources that are 1368 01:45:44,239 --> 01:45:50,159 dedicated to figuring out what's going on and also collecting the information 1369 01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:54,159 so they can make more research resources available for us 1370 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:56,719 this team there works with public health they'll communicate to public health 1371 01:45:55,760 --> 01:46:01,040 together they'll complete the investigation we'll figure out if us or 1372 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:04,560 the tribes go out do spot site sampling to figure out if there was 1373 01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:08,719 something there in the water and so it's just a really great resource and that's 1374 01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:11,520 where i direct staff or i direct calls that come in if there's health 1375 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,840 hazard impacts at all any question i send them there 1376 01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:23,760 this thing is just showing there's about 30 30 plus signs around the 1377 01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:27,520 around the lake that give information about how to 1378 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:30,000 recreate safely and 1379 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:36,000 in water that could possibly have the habs it also provides links to 1380 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:40,719 in public health water resources there's a qr code that links you to big valleys 1381 01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:44,719 uh monitoring data so you can get the most recent data there and 1382 01:46:45,860 --> 01:46:49,540 [Music] 1383 01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:57,600 the slide actually shows those the location of the signs and this is most 1384 01:46:55,840 --> 01:47:01,600 of those signs are at our monitoring locations although there's a few uh 1385 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:05,840 areas that have signs that we don't monitor most of our modern monitoring 1386 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:09,679 locations are the parks 1387 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:14,480 we have a city you know city of clear lake city of lakeport uh locations in in 1388 01:47:12,719 --> 01:47:20,719 the city of lakeport it's a redbud park and austin park 1389 01:47:18,239 --> 01:47:24,480 and we have and we have some all around the lake we also have 1390 01:47:22,639 --> 01:47:29,199 sampling locations at homeowners associations and private 1391 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:33,199 properties so there are signs that are available i believe that 1392 01:47:31,679 --> 01:47:38,000 there'll be more discussion about that but homeowners and and private property 1393 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:40,960 owners can get signs also affixed to their area and they just need to talk 1394 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:43,440 with public health or water resources about that 1395 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:50,639 so part of this group was developing education outreach materials i talked 1396 01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:55,119 about the press releases already we do have articles um on our websites and 1397 01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:58,239 then we have brochures both in english and spanish um that are available on our 1398 01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:01,679 website as well as hard copy i'm gonna give you guys some 1399 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:05,679 these are all for you so take what you need 1400 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:11,520 um we also have some radio and digital psas so we recently just did a digital 1401 01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:16,159 campaign this is a visual psa uh to go on digital media we have it on the 1402 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:20,480 facebook as well as its ads marketing we also do little videos so we have one 1403 01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:25,280 about um being safe with your your pets around the water and then the 1404 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:29,119 big valley does post their results as soon as they get them um on the clean 1405 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:33,360 lake water quality facebook page which has a very uh big following and so 1406 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:36,480 people get that information right away and they can make the best decisions for 1407 01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,960 themselves and their family when they're recreating 1408 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:48,480 this brochure that you see on the slide for small drinking water systems and 1409 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:52,639 that's actually for private drinking water systems that are 1410 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:56,000 one to four homes that these water systems are connected to 1411 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:59,600 these don't believe there any of these in the city of clear lake 1412 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:04,719 but throughout the lake we have 100 miles of shoreline there are a number 1413 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:09,760 hundreds actually of homes who have near shore wells or private intakes into the 1414 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:14,320 lake where they are drying water in and treating it possibly 1415 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:17,840 and drinking it or showering in it feeding it to their animals and whatnot 1416 01:49:16,639 --> 01:49:22,639 and so this this brochure that is on the 1417 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:27,360 slide is warning or basically giving recommendations to people who are 1418 01:49:24,719 --> 01:49:32,000 drinking that type of water um to take care if you're mixing water uh if you're 1419 01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:36,000 making formula for your child you want to use bottled water instead of lake 1420 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:39,840 water from your own private intake not talking about the public water systems 1421 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:43,760 where most people 65 of the people in this county get their drinking water 1422 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:48,159 from public water systems but from these small systems so this outreach also has 1423 01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:51,520 been available for several years it was dr karen tate the public health officer 1424 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:55,600 who put this together in coordination with the rest of our 1425 01:49:52,880 --> 01:50:00,239 group so we do do outreach to these private intakes and these state smalls 1426 01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:04,080 as well because they do have lesser treatment systems for their drinking 1427 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,080 water 1428 01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:14,480 so you know our next steps um for this group we've been together for 1429 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:20,719 like i said about four four years now um as a directive to from the board of 1430 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:25,280 supervisors um we want to get more signs out to private properties and homeowners 1431 01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:29,840 associations around the lake we have those permanent signs available whether 1432 01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:34,719 it's a resort or you know local 1433 01:50:31,119 --> 01:50:39,840 hoa associations um communication we're going to continue the monitoring 1434 01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:42,800 continue partnering with our tribes and our other agencies our cities around the 1435 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,560 lake you know really manage the message 1436 01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:49,520 because that's what it's all about it's about informing people so that they can 1437 01:50:48,639 --> 01:50:53,840 make the right choice for them and then of 1438 01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:58,960 course we look for input from our community leaders such as yourselves we 1439 01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:04,320 we welcome and we support that input and that's basically why we're here today 1440 01:51:01,679 --> 01:51:04,320 to give you an 1441 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:12,960 update and you know we'll now take any questions or um concerns that you have 1442 01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:18,719 here are the three entities that 1443 01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:21,760 people can contact for questions or for more information or 1444 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:27,119 brochures lake county water resources 1445 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:32,000 like county public health and big valley band of pomo indians who 1446 01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:37,199 really started this trend back i don't know 10 years ago i 1447 01:51:34,719 --> 01:51:41,440 guess sarah i could be wrong on that but we really have them to thank for getting 1448 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:45,679 this project off and running 1449 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:50,080 with the testing of our leg many years ago so we thank you for your 1450 01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:54,159 time and we're happy to answer any questions 1451 01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:58,159 it looks like councilman has questions uh thank you denise and and all of you 1452 01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:02,560 for that presentation it was very informative 1453 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:05,360 i didn't i heard a lot of the the problems created by the cyanobacteria 1454 01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:10,560 and both localized areas and across the lake 1455 01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:15,119 my question is is there any progress being made on something that we can 1456 01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:19,840 knock these blooms down especially in localized areas for instance off of 1457 01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:23,440 austin's beach or off of redbud uh or off of library park lakewood 1458 01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:27,520 whatever so is there any anything that's being 1459 01:52:25,599 --> 01:52:30,800 done or can be done to at least break those up and 1460 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:38,080 push them away i'm gonna let our scientists answer 1461 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:41,440 the questions of sarah and or angela i get this question all the time so i 1462 01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:44,320 love it thank you thank you um 1463 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:48,480 yeah so the conditions that make the algae grow there are the still warm 1464 01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:51,040 water nutrient rich we have super nutrient water we're not you know the 1465 01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:55,280 nutrients are there they've been there for um thousands of years just old lake 1466 01:52:53,760 --> 01:53:00,320 so it's all piled there there's a big resource there for the food for them 1467 01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:03,760 and this warm water so still warm food and then we get summer daylight so we 1468 01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:07,440 have these long daylight hours of the sunshine and that's what they love so 1469 01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:11,520 they're gonna grow there um what you can do and again this is 1470 01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:16,000 extreme year so this drought year with the low water and these when if we had 1471 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:19,920 three weeks of a hundred plus weather in a row starting in june like that's crazy 1472 01:53:18,239 --> 01:53:23,920 so that's very extreme there has been success local level in 1473 01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:27,920 some places in the lake with moving the water right so you're removing that 1474 01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:31,840 habitat you're making it so it's not still comfortable you'll still might get 1475 01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:35,360 some blooms and some toxins but not at the same level that we 1476 01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:39,520 see in areas where you have but still nice quiet coves there how have you been 1477 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:43,679 moving the water there's things that are water movers there's um at big valley in 1478 01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:48,000 their marina they have a solar bee which is a little bubbler that kind of moves 1479 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:51,040 it around um there are dock mounted basically it's underwater fans that can 1480 01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:55,360 move it and of course you can get different sizes then again you're moving 1481 01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:59,599 electricity around you know um there there's our options but they're small 1482 01:53:57,440 --> 01:54:04,080 scale for your own property kind of thing so it's it's not we can't move a 1483 01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:07,119 whole large cove of algae and in fact i think they tried it in 2010 and they 1484 01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:10,159 moved it out and it just went into somebody else's cove and then you're 1485 01:54:08,159 --> 01:54:14,880 dealing with that problem in that that location so it doesn't there's no quick 1486 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:19,040 fix or else we would have had it already or other water bodies would have had it 1487 01:54:16,639 --> 01:54:23,760 so the work the work being done up for instance and rodney and slude as their 1488 01:54:21,599 --> 01:54:28,080 going to do you know make that a slow again and it was supposedly going to 1489 01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:32,800 help filter the water coming in is that going to have any any impact positively 1490 01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:37,280 on this yes absolutely when that gets done and other if we can do smaller 1491 01:54:35,199 --> 01:54:40,639 scale of those two around the lake like restoring wetlands and natural 1492 01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:44,239 shorelines around the lake that definitely will help because all of that 1493 01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:50,560 habitat basically competes for all those things like the nutrients 1494 01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:53,679 that the the cyanobacteria does um like although it's been here it's going to 1495 01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:57,440 continue being here we're just trying to lessen the severity and the frequency of 1496 01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:02,719 it yeah and i wanted to say that the um in 1497 01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:06,000 the clear lake nutrient tmdl which was established about 15 years ago from the 1498 01:55:04,719 --> 01:55:11,520 regional board they um they estimate 100 years of 1499 01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:16,320 in-lake loading so we somehow in 2009 you know we had a lake 1500 01:55:14,159 --> 01:55:20,239 wide bloom it just hit i know there was cyanobacteria prior to that but in 2009 1501 01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:24,719 it just hit and with 100 years of it you know there 1502 01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:28,400 are a lot of smaller lakes and and i'm not recommending this with smaller lakes 1503 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:33,199 that are that are using alum to cover the bottom of the lake and do find ways 1504 01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:36,960 to make that food that is sitting on the bottom not available to the 1505 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,639 cyanobacteria to take it up but the thing that really keeps it that the 1506 01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:44,560 thing that really makes it available is low oxygen levels so that's another 1507 01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:48,239 thing another reason why aeration is really 1508 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:55,840 useful though it's very localized as angela said we would we have done um 1509 01:55:51,360 --> 01:56:00,239 uh using a a simple um pump and pulling water from the lake and spraying it back 1510 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:05,360 in the lake we would do that i say do it often and early uh don't wait till it 1511 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:09,440 looks like this you know um yeah can't do it now uh because there's no water 1512 01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:14,239 practically but if you if you aerate it and you move it around locally it makes 1513 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:19,599 a huge difference we had not have those problems on the big valley shoreline so 1514 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:24,000 the bubblers the aerators fire hoses blowing water out yeah that you know 1515 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:28,800 it's it keeps the smell it keeps the mats from forming but you have to do it 1516 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:32,239 early and often yeah a year yeah years ago 1517 01:56:29,599 --> 01:56:37,599 yeah years back they there had been a proposal or a couple of proposals or 1518 01:56:34,159 --> 01:56:41,199 studies anyway done to possibly harvest uh 1519 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:45,920 algae basically a water water floating uh harvester that would 1520 01:56:44,159 --> 01:56:50,480 take it in and and then take the material off up on the 1521 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:55,360 shore dry it out and they had apparently had looked into different uses for it 1522 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:59,679 have you heard and done anything or seen anything of that this was back in the 1523 01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:04,159 90s i think yeah i i've heard it as an urban legend maybe maybe angela can 1524 01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:08,800 speak to it more but i do know it's hard to pick up cyanobacteria it will you 1525 01:57:06,719 --> 01:57:13,280 know if you put a pool skimmer out there and try to lift it up most of it will 1526 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:16,560 fall through so it's really much better to 1527 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:19,360 yeah it is it is a you should look at um well i want to say but there's a few 1528 01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:22,000 spots that we saw yesterday it looks like a green smoothie 1529 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:26,000 um removing it is difficult it's better to 1530 01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:31,280 prevent it from from forming the other thing i wanted to say about middle creek 1531 01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:36,320 is the uc davis studies are showing that the what we have in the lake is 1532 01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:40,960 is probably producing more of the blooms than what's coming in everybody's been 1533 01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:45,199 working hard to prevent the coming in erosion control projects and things like 1534 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:48,960 that but if what we have is mainly from the lake the middle creek restoration 1535 01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:53,040 project will be helpful tule planting will be helpful but we 1536 01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:56,320 have to deal with what's the panacea no there's no magic bullet 1537 01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:07,199 yeah i just um on our on the signage that you guys have set out i haven't 1538 01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:11,520 seen it for a while um is there anything on there that say if you have these 1539 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:15,760 symptoms after being in the water please contact 1540 01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:19,280 the health department because i mean i think that should be on 1541 01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:22,639 the signage itself people aren't necessarily going to see those 1542 01:58:21,199 --> 01:58:26,560 and i don't know i never thought about that after all these years 1543 01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:29,280 but when you mentioned that i was like i don't remember seeing that on our signs 1544 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:32,719 so um 1545 01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:39,760 denise do you know yeah i do believe it's there let me pull 1546 01:58:34,719 --> 01:58:45,280 it up i there's a ul cord uh to um big valley so they can scan and get 1547 01:58:42,159 --> 01:58:50,400 local conditions at that on that day but i do believe we also have um our phone 1548 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:55,280 numbers on the signs for both water resources and public health 1549 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:59,199 um i don't know that let me i'm gonna check real quick here 1550 01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:01,760 let me go through all these slides also this 1551 01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:04,639 symptoms can be different for different people it's like allergies right 1552 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:08,159 sometimes people get watery eyes or sneezing or some people get headaches 1553 01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:12,159 and um so it's kind of different so if we listed every single symptom well you 1554 01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:17,199 might have to look at symptoms but maybe they should say if you feel 1555 01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:19,360 like something simple like if you feel like you've been in the water and you 1556 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:23,840 feel sick or or have rashes please call 1557 01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:26,400 you know your doctor and let them know that you're in 1558 01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:29,119 the water or something like that has algae i'm just thinking that there might 1559 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:31,840 be yeah actually have on the side 1560 01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:39,040 so what it says is um to call your health provider on the 1561 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:42,560 temporary signs it says if you have any reactions call your local medical 1562 01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:47,520 provider and then on the permanent signs it says 1563 01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:52,480 um the current toxin levels it gives the website and the url 1564 01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:55,280 information or to report a bloom or call 1565 01:59:55,440 --> 02:00:02,400 a local county departments for information so 1566 02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:05,280 okay 1567 02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:09,679 all right and then on the temp app 1568 02:00:08,230 --> 02:00:11,840 [Music] you have any 1569 02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:16,400 questions say call your doctor or veterinarian if you 1570 02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:23,280 or your pet get sick after going in the water for more information contact 1571 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:28,880 water quality california habs um and then for local information contact um 1572 02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:33,199 public health 1573 02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:36,400 water resources or big valley so it is on there 1574 02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:40,880 thank you councilman mclaffy you have any 1575 02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:45,920 questions no questions thank you all for the work you're doing on this this is uh 1576 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:49,199 is a great presentation thank you i have one or two questions 1577 02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:52,320 uh is the smell 1578 02:00:50,639 --> 02:00:56,639 is it i mean if you have blooms is it autumn let me smell or is it what what 1579 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:59,119 creates the smell how can you get rid of the smell 1580 02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:05,440 well there actually are taste and odor 1581 02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:10,320 compounds that cyan bacteria produces and lingbia seems to be the smelliest i 1582 02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:13,280 remember in 2009 i remember saying it looks and smells like raw sewage 1583 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:17,520 um so uh but also when it's dying so you've 1584 02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:24,880 probably seen some blooms that look pink right now these big masses and that's 1585 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:28,320 that is the uh dying cyanobacteria so um that's so it either is because of the 1586 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:32,560 cyan bacteria itself some of them smell like swampy you know microcystis has a 1587 02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:36,840 different smell than than lingam but lingby is the smelly is to my opinion 1588 02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:51,280 you said uh i've noticed there's some places that they just take thules out is 1589 02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:54,639 that illegal yeah that is can you tell me let us know 1590 02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:58,480 call our department let us know where that is so we can investigate 1591 02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:03,280 they're not supposed to tulies are protected and you're not alone clear 1592 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:06,239 lake other outside of the lake we don't have that that's not an 1593 02:02:04,719 --> 02:02:10,400 ordinance rule but it is the shoreline ordinance chapter 23 does prohibit the 1594 02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:13,840 removal of these some people can cut them down um even though we don't 1595 02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:16,800 recommend that right now for this year because they don't have water and you're 1596 02:02:15,199 --> 02:02:19,679 putting through stress so basically the ordinance language says you cannot do 1597 02:02:18,239 --> 02:02:23,360 anything to the plant that results in death of the plant if a plant has no 1598 02:02:21,599 --> 02:02:26,239 water and you trim it down that could result in death so you're not supposed 1599 02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:30,080 to do that um but you're not supposed to uproot them or move them some people 1600 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:34,480 weed whack to get a better view and that's okay that's allowed um but yeah 1601 02:02:32,639 --> 02:02:39,280 if if you know the site just call us okay so we can go check it out some of 1602 02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:42,080 them are growing on top of my concrete ramp that's still the shoreline and 1603 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:44,960 protected oh sure sorry 1604 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:57,440 you said this is a worldwide problem so where else in the world are they 1605 02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:03,280 working on some kind of uh to to deal with the effects of this 1606 02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:07,920 yeah all over um it's just very different so like lake erie is world 1607 02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:11,679 renowned for having cyanobacteria issues and drinking water and recreation their 1608 02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:14,719 problems are very different because they get 1609 02:03:12,639 --> 02:03:19,440 those huge storms in the summer and then they plaster the area with phosphorus 1610 02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:22,800 and they have drain tiles so they're getting constant fertilizer influx 1611 02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:26,239 during the whole year and they're getting those blooms right um we're very 1612 02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:31,119 different we're still getting blooms but our lake is very different so the tools 1613 02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:34,000 to manage and treat in an area like that are very different than the ones that we 1614 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:37,199 have to develop here and i will say that i think i'm correct 1615 02:03:36,159 --> 02:03:40,159 but i think clear lake is one of the only 1616 02:03:38,239 --> 02:03:44,000 drinking water lakes or reservoirs in california that has these bloom events 1617 02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:46,719 um versus all the other ones there are some bloom events it's getting more and 1618 02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:50,639 more often but i think clear lakes the one where they have as a drinking water 1619 02:03:48,719 --> 02:03:53,520 intakes directly on the lake is the only one in the state so it's very unique 1620 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:58,000 which means there's not a lot of research and data as of yet just for our 1621 02:03:55,840 --> 02:04:00,960 specific situation is that climate change have anything to do with that oh 1622 02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:04,639 absolutely because what did we talk about the temperature 1623 02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:07,760 um and still water so we're getting warmer temperatures earlier 1624 02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:10,480 longer periods of these warm temperatures less rain we have less 1625 02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:13,599 dilution yeah that's definitely a contributing 1626 02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:15,920 factor yeah 1627 02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:19,040 all right thank you for oh but mr product 1628 02:04:17,599 --> 02:04:25,679 patiently waiting patiently waiting to ask my questions um 1629 02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:29,760 so i understand the the wind the the naturally occurring winds that typically 1630 02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:33,679 blow it down the the northern arm or toward elam and clearly goku's area and 1631 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:37,920 obviously we receive the same type of prevailing winds uh which makes it pool 1632 02:04:36,159 --> 02:04:42,639 and pocket in those areas which where it gets stagnant does the state or local 1633 02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:50,960 i'm thinking boating and waterways our own water resources they have 1634 02:04:48,159 --> 02:04:55,119 anything or any recommendations for our private property owners and and some of 1635 02:04:53,040 --> 02:05:00,560 our public areas where that where it pools where we can maybe get some 1636 02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:04,320 assistance either trash pumps or other ways to mitigate when it starts to pile 1637 02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:07,920 up i'm not just talking about cyanobacteria but actually when the 1638 02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:11,679 algae the different forms and types of algae 1639 02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:14,480 begin to die and decompose there's a lot of gases that come off of 1640 02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:19,040 that as it decomposes 1641 02:05:16,639 --> 02:05:22,000 so that's um i would say that most of what that is describing is the 1642 02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:26,080 cyanobacteria and not the green algae and 1643 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:29,599 private homeowners when they call me this i recommend you know you can put in 1644 02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:33,599 a water mover like sarah talked about early in the season um you can encourage 1645 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:37,360 natural shorelines so if you have a lot of erosion in the area 1646 02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:40,880 or a lawn that goes right up you know that can promote those conditions 1647 02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:44,239 even though it's harder when it's affecting a large area not just your own 1648 02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:47,360 parcel some people try skimming you know the 1649 02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:51,760 pool skimmer and then put it aside on the shoreline 1650 02:05:49,679 --> 02:05:55,679 but it's just making more room for more of it to come in so yeah i know that 1651 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:59,199 they had looked at it though for um different uses i mean some algae is 1652 02:05:57,599 --> 02:06:03,199 actually harvested in different parts algae not cyanobacteria i understand 1653 02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:07,040 that but now i'm looking at the health of the lake yes and and the 1654 02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:13,199 we have to enjoy the lake as much as we can and when it stinks it's no no fun 1655 02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:17,599 so you know what can we do to help our residents uh combat that 1656 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:21,520 so i you know we talked about syncing it we had a former supervisor who used the 1657 02:06:19,599 --> 02:06:25,599 airboat for the county who tried to break it up and try to mitigate that 1658 02:06:23,599 --> 02:06:29,840 we've actually hired contractors with excavators to pull it out of the lake 1659 02:06:27,599 --> 02:06:33,920 haul it away to different um agricultural 1660 02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:38,239 areas for fertilizer so i mean there's different uses i just 1661 02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:42,079 can we start looking at those because this is it happens every year some years 1662 02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:44,960 more than others that we can try to mitigate this and and 1663 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:50,480 maybe use it for something beneficial 1664 02:06:48,239 --> 02:06:53,040 do you want to talk about the uc davis is doing a study and they're going to 1665 02:06:51,679 --> 02:06:57,760 have some recommendations at the end of that to kind of figure out how to keep 1666 02:06:54,800 --> 02:07:00,480 it from forming um it sells so just because you remove some cells there's a 1667 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:06,560 whole bunch more and all they do is reproduce and make more actually save 1668 02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:10,400 themselves yeah absolutely yeah so um one thing about having weeds on your 1669 02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:14,800 shoreline and weeds in the water rather than is that it competes with the 1670 02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:18,239 cyanobacteria so i would recommend keeping your you know keeping some weeds 1671 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:22,320 and they're planting some tules because they eat the same thing that 1672 02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:25,840 cyanobacteria eats so don't you know if you take everything out of there then 1673 02:07:23,679 --> 02:07:30,079 cyanobacteria can dominate and you don't want that to happen i i noticed where 1674 02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:36,560 the edge of the tulis were and they moved 1675 02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:41,520 probably 20 feet farther into the lake over the last 10 years or so yes great 1676 02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:45,599 yeah we need more tulies more tules 1677 02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:48,719 have a thule planting campaign yeah 1678 02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:52,320 we're doing yeah we've done hundreds of feet of big valley shoreline and it's 1679 02:07:50,639 --> 02:07:56,719 very helpful i want to say another aerator that's out there uh we bought 1680 02:07:54,639 --> 02:07:59,440 some one at usa blue books i'm sure they're out there but they look like 1681 02:07:57,599 --> 02:08:03,679 what you put in the bottom of your um fish tank they sit on the bottom you 1682 02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:06,079 have weighted cables and they bubble up and uh 1683 02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:11,599 you know a little over a thousand dollars you can get a bubbler that turns 1684 02:08:08,719 --> 02:08:16,320 over the water in the air uh five acre area in 72 hours and that's what we use 1685 02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:19,119 when tribone clear lake vista and it did make a difference for the water in that 1686 02:08:18,079 --> 02:08:22,880 cove so 1687 02:08:20,639 --> 02:08:28,000 thank you very much very educational thank you we really appreciate that 1688 02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:30,960 all right we uh mr mayor would you have someone on zoom that has their hand 1689 02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:34,880 raised all right 1690 02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:39,360 just wait for a second there's somebody on zoom that might have a question 1691 02:08:38,239 --> 02:08:42,360 go ahead melissa 1692 02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:06,320 go ahead with your comment you have your hand raised 1693 02:09:07,199 --> 02:09:10,719 michael did cheat 1694 02:09:13,679 --> 02:09:17,880 go ahead michael with your comment 1695 02:09:26,719 --> 02:09:34,880 all right i think we have to move on all right we go to public comment 1696 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:40,480 this is the time for any member of the public to address the city council and 1697 02:09:38,639 --> 02:09:44,000 thanks again we appreciate your presentation of the 1698 02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:48,480 public to address the city council or any matter not on the agenda that is 1699 02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:52,480 within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city 1700 02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:57,840 the brown act with limited exception does not allow the council or staff to 1701 02:09:54,880 --> 02:10:03,440 discuss issues brought before under public comment the council cannot take 1702 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:09,119 actions on non-agenda items concerns may be referred to staff or 1703 02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:12,400 placed on the next available agenda please note that the comments from the 1704 02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:18,000 public would also be taken on each agenda item and comments shall be 1705 02:10:14,639 --> 02:10:20,960 limited to three minutes per person do we have any here anybody in the 1706 02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:24,639 public here that wants to address the council 1707 02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:27,960 go ahead sir please state your name when you come up 1708 02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:37,840 my name is mr bolt and um we have a traffic 1709 02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:42,560 problem up here on uh 18th avenue where i live 1710 02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:50,239 between phillips and ball my sister wrote this in august 15 2020 1711 02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:54,800 people are driving 60 to 70 miles an hour at all times of the day and night 1712 02:10:52,560 --> 02:10:58,800 keeping us all up at night i am sick with lyme disease and cannot 1713 02:10:56,880 --> 02:11:03,280 get any sleep please have a patrol officer at knives 1714 02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:08,840 sit at phillips avenue or borrow avenues off of 18th and check for violators 1715 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:16,000 have called several times with no follow-up thank you ronald 1716 02:11:12,159 --> 02:11:19,760 thank you for your comments sir and i live on the corner of irwin 1717 02:11:18,000 --> 02:11:25,280 and 18th and and i requested uh 25 miles an 1718 02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:29,119 hour post sign from 19th and 18th on the corner where i 1719 02:11:28,079 --> 02:11:33,280 live because they drive 40 or 50 miles an 1720 02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:37,840 hour there and i i requested that i would put slow 1721 02:11:35,679 --> 02:11:42,719 down children at play but i would like a 25 miles an hour 1722 02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:45,440 posted on the corner of 19th and 18th right there 1723 02:11:43,679 --> 02:11:50,000 when you come up off of 18th 1724 02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:54,639 they go 40 or 50 miles right there and coming down there's no stop sign and 1725 02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:59,280 they clipped the uh they clicked the sign there that says 1726 02:11:56,320 --> 02:12:04,719 irwin and 18th avenue they took that out and and the mailbox is right there 1727 02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:08,320 doing about 40 right there so there's no stop sign so they fly down the hill real 1728 02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:12,079 fast and if we can have a 25 mile put right 1729 02:12:10,719 --> 02:12:17,040 on the corner there at 19 coming down and right by my place 1730 02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:20,800 going up 25 i will pay for slow down children in 1731 02:12:19,199 --> 02:12:24,880 that play so the kids can ride their bikes there 1732 02:12:23,679 --> 02:12:28,079 and then um between phillips and ball it's like a 1733 02:12:26,639 --> 02:12:32,400 race track all times at night you can see the burn 1734 02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:36,320 off they hit a fire hydrant 1735 02:12:34,639 --> 02:12:40,000 at night they were coming up by the hospital 1736 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:44,560 coming down like this and they ran phillips the intersection of phillips 1737 02:12:42,079 --> 02:12:48,239 coming up there there's a hydra fire hydrant right there 1738 02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:52,639 he took that out with his truck with the wheel 1739 02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:55,840 and with his bumper he took the two uh yellow 1740 02:12:53,520 --> 02:12:59,840 post that that goes in front of it cement knocked that down 1741 02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:03,520 and for him to hit that up fire hydrant he had to be doing about 70 1742 02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:07,840 miles an hour so he's going over those humps like this 1743 02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:11,520 and pass right past phillips intersection 1744 02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:15,679 doing 70 miles an hour and then hit that fire hydrant and shot it off like a 1745 02:13:13,679 --> 02:13:19,840 bowling bowling pin and with that tightened down he was 1746 02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:23,599 doing at least seven so they're hit they're hitting a lot of 1747 02:13:21,599 --> 02:13:28,639 city property and then coming up from walmart there they just clipped on uh 1748 02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:32,159 where the uh across from the college there 1749 02:13:30,719 --> 02:13:36,159 they went on the left there and hit the green fence right there 1750 02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:40,800 way off the line there and i talked to the lady there and she says that they 1751 02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:45,119 always run that stop sign there and they're burning off like crazy the 1752 02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:48,000 motorbikes and all these trucks well you're in luck because our chief traffic 1753 02:13:46,639 --> 02:13:51,199 officer is in the meeting and listening to all this 1754 02:13:49,679 --> 02:13:55,280 thank you very much for your comments i really appreciate it thank you thank you 1755 02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:59,840 steve white please i just wanted to respond 1756 02:13:57,599 --> 02:14:04,880 that we have met with this uh gentleman on multiple occasions and we did just 1757 02:14:01,599 --> 02:14:08,800 recently order a speed radar trailer um which has been in hot demand our last 1758 02:14:06,400 --> 02:14:12,239 one was broken so obviously areas like this and stuff won't tend to use it and 1759 02:14:10,239 --> 02:14:15,920 the traffic officer is aware of the complaints thank you 1760 02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:19,599 thank you uh are there any public comments on zoom 1761 02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:19,599 adam 1762 02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:28,239 there are no hands raised on zoom all right we'll move on to the consent 1763 02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:32,719 agenda anybody wants to pull any of the consent agenda 1764 02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:37,920 if not entertain a motion i so move that we accept the uh consent 1765 02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:43,599 agenda as presented and i'll second that we have a motion by councilwoman overton 1766 02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:48,159 and the second by councilman cramer 1767 02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:52,320 uh all in favor all right all right we'll move on to public 1768 02:14:49,679 --> 02:14:59,520 hearing item number 15. mr mayor i'd like to make a request that we 1769 02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:04,800 we have our auditor um on zoom and i'd like to request that we take up item 1770 02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:08,400 number 16 before the public hearing okay 1771 02:15:05,679 --> 02:15:12,960 please all right item number 1772 02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:17,520 16. um 1773 02:15:14,639 --> 02:15:21,719 mr white chief of police interim finance director i think it's your item 1774 02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:12,639 okay sorry about that i was trying to pull this up uh good evening mayor 1775 02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:17,119 members of the council members of the public i come before you tonight as the 1776 02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:23,440 interim finance director to introduce you to our city auditor by 1777 02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:27,840 way of background we hire an auditor to implement an audit of the city's books 1778 02:16:25,599 --> 02:16:30,159 for 2018 and 19 we engaged a new auditing 1779 02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:33,840 firm and the head auditor 1780 02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:37,840 is actually on the line with us and i'm going to turn it over 1781 02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:40,960 to him to go ahead and present this report 1782 02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:47,359 uh yes good evening mr mayor members of the council 1783 02:16:45,359 --> 02:16:52,319 my name is brett van glant i'm a partner with van lant and fenk kennel 1784 02:16:49,599 --> 02:16:56,880 we conducted the audit uh for the city's financial statements for the fiscal year 1785 02:16:54,160 --> 02:17:00,240 ended june 30 2019. i have a short 1786 02:16:58,479 --> 02:17:03,599 powerpoint presentation just kind of going over the audit process and the 1787 02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:05,920 reports that were issued as part of our audits 1788 02:17:04,639 --> 02:17:10,080 if you have any questions throughout the presentation please feel free to 1789 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:13,599 just cut me off at any time i'm going to try and 1790 02:17:11,599 --> 02:17:18,240 share my screen do i need to share my screen or were you guys gonna 1791 02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:21,479 please you can you can you want to share okay perfect 1792 02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:39,920 so you guys can see that yes okay 1793 02:17:37,599 --> 02:17:43,359 um so the audit process uh it's kind of broken up into two different two 1794 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:48,240 different parts we do what we call an interim audit 1795 02:17:45,599 --> 02:17:50,319 field work this is where we do some of our 1796 02:17:48,809 --> 02:17:54,240 [Music] preliminary work for 1797 02:17:52,319 --> 02:17:58,479 to assess the risk that the financial statements could contain a material 1798 02:17:56,639 --> 02:18:03,920 misstatement this is what we call our risk assessment process 1799 02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:08,319 this part of the audit we are just gaining an understanding of the 1800 02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:12,559 design and implementation of the different internal controls over the 1801 02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:16,000 city's financial reporting in order to do this we 1802 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:19,280 have to review all different types of transactions that the city 1803 02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:24,319 engages in cash receipts cash disbursements 1804 02:18:21,920 --> 02:18:28,800 the procurement and purchasing process uh how payroll is processed and any 1805 02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:32,000 other various uh audit areas that we might find 1806 02:18:30,639 --> 02:18:35,760 significant to the the city itself the different 1807 02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:39,040 types of transactions and things like that 1808 02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:44,479 in order to do that we have to review specific transactions uh we observe uh 1809 02:18:42,319 --> 02:18:49,200 the processes that are that are taking place the cash receipts process how 1810 02:18:46,880 --> 02:18:54,240 those are handled uh also the cash disbursements process um and then in 1811 02:18:51,599 --> 02:18:58,559 addition to that we are inquiring with different uh personnel throughout the 1812 02:18:56,160 --> 02:19:02,240 city uh that that handle these types of transactions 1813 02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:06,000 so that's kind of the preliminary process of just 1814 02:19:03,840 --> 02:19:10,960 gaining an understanding of how how the financial transactions work at the city 1815 02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:14,240 and those internal controls over those transactions to make sure that the 1816 02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:18,160 financial statements are fairly misstated or fairly stated in 1817 02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:23,200 accordance with generally accepted accounting principles 1818 02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:27,519 so the second second part of our audit process is the year-end audit field work 1819 02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:32,240 this is where we're actually verifying the balances and the amounts that are in 1820 02:19:29,920 --> 02:19:35,920 the city's financial statements the procedures that we do involve our 1821 02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:42,399 judgment and that uh those procedures are dictated by our 1822 02:19:39,359 --> 02:19:45,359 risk assessment process so uh when i talked about the different internal 1823 02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:48,559 controls if there's if there's various areas that 1824 02:19:47,519 --> 02:19:53,600 uh internal controls might not be as strong 1825 02:19:50,479 --> 02:19:59,040 as we would uh anticipate then we would have to do extended procedures to 1826 02:19:56,160 --> 02:20:05,200 verify that the amounts that are actually reported in your financial 1827 02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:09,200 statements are materially stated so part of that we are doing substantive 1828 02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:13,680 testing of the amount of the amounts that are 1829 02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:18,640 reported in your financial statements we are confirming balances with the state 1830 02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:22,240 and the county different payments that are made 1831 02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:26,240 we test transactions we inquire with city staff 1832 02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:31,200 we perform analytical procedures prior year comparisons try to 1833 02:20:28,160 --> 02:20:36,399 identify any uh any fluctuations from one year to the next that uh can't can 1834 02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:41,840 necessarily be explained uh we will do further procedures to inquire with 1835 02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:45,040 uh city staff to understand you know why those uh fluctuations might have 1836 02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:48,399 happened so that we feel comfortable with the amounts that are 1837 02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:52,560 reported in the financial statements themselves 1838 02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:56,399 uh there are several reports that are issued as part of our audit 1839 02:20:54,560 --> 02:21:00,720 most notably it's the audit report that's the opinion on the financial 1840 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:05,439 statements we're also required to issue a report on 1841 02:21:02,800 --> 02:21:08,319 internal control and compliance that's required by government auditing 1842 02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:13,280 standards we also issued a report on the city's 1843 02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:18,080 appropriations limit calculation and there's also a letter that was 1844 02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:22,960 addressed to the city council just informative about the audit process 1845 02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:22,960 itself 1846 02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:32,000 so the audit report on the financial statements uh has several sections 1847 02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:36,800 uh identifying the responsibilities of both parties so the financial statements 1848 02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:40,319 themselves are management's financial statements they're the responsibility of 1849 02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:45,120 management our responsibility is to express an 1850 02:21:42,479 --> 02:21:49,280 opinion on the the presentation of those financial statements 1851 02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:52,880 we are providing reasonable assurance that the amounts are fairly stated in 1852 02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:56,880 accordance with generally accepted accounting principles 1853 02:21:54,560 --> 02:22:00,240 uh it talks about uh the procedure or the 1854 02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:04,720 applicable standards that we follow um as part of our audits and also talks 1855 02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:10,960 about that our our procedures involve our judgment 1856 02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:10,960 based off of our risk assessment 1857 02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:18,720 the city received an unmodified opinion which is a clean opinion meaning 1858 02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:22,399 we did not the the financial statements are fairly 1859 02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:25,520 presented in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles 1860 02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:32,240 meaning there's no material misstatements in in the amounts that are 1861 02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:35,280 reported in the financial statements there's also 1862 02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:39,200 the report also discusses our responsibility for the required 1863 02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:42,880 supplementary information required supplementary 1864 02:22:40,960 --> 02:22:46,240 supplementary information includes the md a 1865 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:49,439 budgetary schedules and pension schedules the city this year elected not 1866 02:22:48,720 --> 02:22:54,240 to present an mdna 1867 02:22:52,640 --> 02:22:58,319 which is management's discussion and analysis 1868 02:22:56,319 --> 02:23:02,800 uh we are not expressing an opinion on that required supplementary information 1869 02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:07,760 and we're only performing limited audit procedures on those 1870 02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:11,359 and then the report also talks about the other supplementary information 1871 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:18,439 that's reported in the financial statements and our responsibility for 1872 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:18,439 reviewing that activity as well 1873 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:23,760 um i just uh put some key figures in here 1874 02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:26,960 um most the 1875 02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:31,680 pension liability uh the city's net pension liability is 1876 02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:36,800 approximately seven million that's a decrease from the previous fiscal year 1877 02:23:34,640 --> 02:23:40,640 2019 again obviously it's a couple years ago at 1878 02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:43,600 this point but that was one of the first years 1879 02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:48,560 the only year that i've seen actually that the pension liability went down so 1880 02:23:45,600 --> 02:23:53,040 that's a always a plus the fund balance in the general fund 1881 02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:57,439 increased approximately 500 000 compared to the prior year 1882 02:23:55,040 --> 02:24:02,000 the unrestricted fund balance is approximately 1883 02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:08,399 months reserves which of the 2019 expenditures 1884 02:24:05,359 --> 02:24:10,800 gfoa is the government finance officers association 1885 02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:15,200 their their best practice recommendation is to 1886 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:17,600 have a minimum of two months operating reserves so that kind of gives you an 1887 02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:22,800 idea of where the city's reserves are at with 1888 02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:22,800 best practices 1889 02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:30,880 we had the report on internal control and compliance this is a government 1890 02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:35,600 auditing standards report uh it talks about uh 1891 02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:43,200 it can we're our requirements to consider internal control over financial 1892 02:24:37,760 --> 02:24:46,479 reporting and also uh compliance with anything that could have a material 1893 02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:50,640 impact on the financial statement so that's compliance with laws regulations 1894 02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:54,560 contracts grant agreements things like that anything that could have an impact 1895 02:24:52,960 --> 02:24:58,880 on the amounts that are reported in your financial statements 1896 02:24:57,280 --> 02:25:02,960 we're not expressing an opinion on internal controls 1897 02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:06,560 we are just required to report any significant deficiencies material 1898 02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:11,200 weaknesses other matters or material non-compliance 1899 02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:17,120 as part of our audit we're required to report that 1900 02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:20,440 we did identify for material weaknesses i believe everybody's had a chance to 1901 02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:23,600 review the reports [Music] 1902 02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:27,040 i won't go through each one unless you guys have questions on them they're 1903 02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:30,479 pretty uh you know we've reported on them in 1904 02:25:28,640 --> 02:25:35,600 detail so if there's any questions on any of these uh feel free to 1905 02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:40,399 ask at at any time but these are the four material weaknesses that were 1906 02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:44,640 identified as part of our audit and then there was four significant 1907 02:25:42,399 --> 02:25:48,160 deficiencies that we identified as part of our audience 1908 02:25:45,920 --> 02:25:51,040 that report also talks about you know what 1909 02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:54,880 it involves auditor judgment to determine 1910 02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:59,520 if what we might think is significant enough to be reported as a material 1911 02:25:56,560 --> 02:26:02,319 weakness or a significant deficiency items like that 1912 02:26:03,600 --> 02:26:10,720 there is also the sas 114 report that's a a statement on auditing standards 114 1913 02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:15,520 that's the abbreviation for that but this is a 1914 02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:18,800 required communication with this those charged with governance which is 1915 02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:21,600 the city council and it talks about the different 1916 02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:26,479 estimates that are in the city's financial statements uh sensitive 1917 02:26:23,920 --> 02:26:31,280 disclosures if we had any difficulties or disagreements with management we 1918 02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:35,840 would be reporting that there uh aside from the um you know some of the 1919 02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:40,319 issues with the accounting that that took place throughout the audit process 1920 02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:45,120 we did not have any difficulties or disagreements with management throughout 1921 02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:45,120 the audit 1922 02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:53,680 i'd like to thank uh andrew and and the staff at the city for uh all their help 1923 02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:58,720 in in uh finally getting this audit uh completed it was a a long process by by 1924 02:26:56,960 --> 02:27:04,640 both parties and um you know it 1925 02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:08,640 it was a lot of work on on both ends there's a lot of turnover at the city 1926 02:27:06,160 --> 02:27:14,240 when we came in and so uh having having that time frame with the 1927 02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:18,720 transition it took a while but uh i'm i'm happy to uh have been able to 1928 02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:22,720 work with with the staff to get to get to where we are today so 1929 02:27:21,200 --> 02:27:25,359 if you have any questions i'd be happy to uh 1930 02:27:23,840 --> 02:27:30,520 answer them now any questions from the council here 1931 02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:37,840 chief white has a couple of updates he'd like to share 1932 02:27:34,960 --> 02:27:41,760 sure so um i just first of all uh wanted to thank our our new auditing team and 1933 02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:45,680 specifically brad i think that it's always an opportunity to 1934 02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:49,359 make yourselves better and there's some deficiencies that were identified 1935 02:27:47,840 --> 02:27:54,160 but i am grateful that they came in with a very fine toothed comb in fact a very 1936 02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:57,520 very very fine one but a lot of issues were discovered it 1937 02:27:55,680 --> 02:28:00,560 existed for years and so i think you know from the council's perspective the 1938 02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:03,920 public's perspective transitioning to new systems i think it 1939 02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:07,280 was really important that this was done it's just unfortunate it takes so long 1940 02:28:05,359 --> 02:28:11,200 but it's a huge amount of effort and on our staff specifically i wanted 1941 02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:14,479 to thank amy who's not here but amongst carrying out all her other 1942 02:28:12,399 --> 02:28:18,399 regular duties she assisted in pulling all kinds of records and a lot of 1943 02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:20,880 research had to be done two 1944 02:28:19,439 --> 02:28:24,960 or three areas that i wanted to cover just very briefly it's detailed in the 1945 02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:27,680 staff report but obviously as you're all aware there's been significant personnel 1946 02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:31,120 changes but i think in the last year we've 1947 02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:34,399 brought some stability i mean we just had our first department head meeting 1948 02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:37,280 with the new finance director who will be here shortly 1949 02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:42,880 so i think that's a really good move for the city we have our contract with rgs 1950 02:28:39,760 --> 02:28:45,280 which i think is providing that um professional support that we need to 1951 02:28:44,240 --> 02:28:49,040 make sure that we're doing the right thing especially as we go to change 1952 02:28:46,640 --> 02:28:53,680 stuff and another level of oversight um i would mention that there's 1953 02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:57,680 definitely some classification issues within the current structure 1954 02:28:55,520 --> 02:29:01,120 which is evidenced by the findings and i think it's going to be an ongoing 1955 02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:04,399 challenge for the city because of the expense in adding additional personnel 1956 02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:08,000 without having other types of revenue sources to cover 1957 02:29:06,399 --> 02:29:12,240 that so we'll have to continue to find ways to 1958 02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:16,720 you know provide the necessary oversight where we can't physically split duties 1959 02:29:15,200 --> 02:29:20,640 the second part is we obviously have our new system the erp 1960 02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:24,399 it fixes a number of issues like for example the cashiering process 1961 02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:27,439 we've also automated a huge amount of processes 1962 02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:31,920 including our interactions with like calpers that used to be an entirely 1963 02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:34,880 manual process every two weeks credit card processing i know just 1964 02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:38,720 within this county about government agencies accepting credit cards you know 1965 02:29:36,960 --> 02:29:42,000 just in the last two years we've implemented two entirely different 1966 02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:46,160 systems um that have incrementally gotten us better 1967 02:29:44,560 --> 02:29:50,720 so we have a very efficient system now that integrates directly with the erp 1968 02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:54,399 and then from a public transparency perspective we just recently completed 1969 02:29:53,359 --> 02:29:58,720 the interface with the opengov which 1970 02:29:56,800 --> 02:30:02,160 provides real-time information the last part is policies and procedures 1971 02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:05,840 i think you're gonna we've done a bunch but you're gonna see a lot more when we 1972 02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:09,439 have the new finance director on board to carry this through and then make sure 1973 02:30:07,359 --> 02:30:13,359 it's carried out so again i think that the city's has a good 1974 02:30:11,439 --> 02:30:16,080 solid foundation moving forward is a lot of work 1975 02:30:14,479 --> 02:30:20,240 but with everything new that's happening in the city you know a record budget for 1976 02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:23,520 this year i think this was really a good opportunity to set up that solid 1977 02:30:21,760 --> 02:30:28,720 foundation so that we can be successful moving forward and the final caveat that 1978 02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:32,560 i'll give is it this was 1819 so i would suspect and i think the auditor would 1979 02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:36,399 confirm this that in 1920 there may be some of the same findings mentioned only 1980 02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:42,080 because we just got to this basically at the end of 1920 um so that's the last 1981 02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:46,319 information i'll give thank you mr mayor if i could just add briefly i 1982 02:30:43,920 --> 02:30:51,520 mean um i want to personally think brett i mean i other than at the beginning i 1983 02:30:48,960 --> 02:30:55,520 wasn't too involved in this process but um shared with the council before the 1984 02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:59,520 the the auditor we used the year previous to this we weren't satisfied 1985 02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:02,479 with and the the one that was used before that 1986 02:31:01,040 --> 02:31:07,600 for a number of years so this i know this was a painful process to get 1987 02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:10,640 through but very pleased with um you know the approach brett took and you 1988 02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:15,120 know we had the conversation from the beginning that you know you need to put 1989 02:31:12,880 --> 02:31:18,880 the effort in is required to to get us on the right track and then of course 1990 02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:25,680 chief white put an extraordinary amount of time into 1991 02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:31,760 not only improving a bunch of processes and putting things in place but digging 1992 02:31:28,960 --> 02:31:35,359 information back many uh fiscal years in order to get brett his team the 1993 02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:39,280 information that was needed so a personal thank you to both of you for 1994 02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:39,280 that 1995 02:31:39,520 --> 02:31:47,120 any comments from council if not i have one question 1996 02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:51,200 go ahead yes thank you mr mayor uh quick question mr vinland it looks like 1997 02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:55,760 management concurred with uh all of your recommendations any any concerns on your 1998 02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:59,439 end on the way that they're going to resolve uh some of the concerns that you 1999 02:31:57,840 --> 02:32:07,359 brought up um no i you know a lot of the uh 2000 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:10,479 my main concerns uh with with some of the day-to-day processes 2001 02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:15,280 are or should be rectified with the new 2002 02:32:12,240 --> 02:32:20,319 system having some automated systems and um you know being able to to capture 2003 02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:24,240 information at the very very start of the process 2004 02:32:22,319 --> 02:32:29,600 for example the cash receipts process and things like that um obviously we are 2005 02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:35,680 actually in the uh preliminary stages of the actual 2020 audit and as as uh 2006 02:32:33,760 --> 02:32:40,080 chief white mentioned um you know some of some of these 2007 02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:43,760 comments uh might might carry forward just because of the timing 2008 02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:49,040 um typically we try not to just uh repeat findings if 2009 02:32:46,479 --> 02:32:52,720 they've already been uh corrected but um 2010 02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:56,080 you know until we're able to actually uh come out there and 2011 02:32:54,080 --> 02:33:00,960 and and observe the those implementations then um i i can't really 2012 02:32:58,560 --> 02:33:04,319 comment too much further on that okay and then uh to city staff it looks 2013 02:33:03,280 --> 02:33:10,080 like the the um the latest implementation of of 2014 02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:15,280 changes would be around september 30th if does that sound correct 2015 02:33:13,120 --> 02:33:19,359 yes we kind of gave an estimate uh based upon onboarding time for the finance 2016 02:33:16,960 --> 02:33:22,560 director and some other stuff so yeah over the next few months and some 2017 02:33:21,200 --> 02:33:26,880 parts have been partially implemented already 2018 02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:30,160 excellent yeah it looks like most were either implemented or close to 2019 02:33:28,240 --> 02:33:33,680 implementation if we could just get maybe a quick update in october and 2020 02:33:32,080 --> 02:33:38,160 november once everyone's settled and we feel like 2021 02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:43,040 all of these recommendations have been locked down and resolved i think that 2022 02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:43,040 would be great thank you 2023 02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:47,920 um do we have 2024 02:33:46,479 --> 02:33:53,359 we'll open a public hearing do we have any comments from the public on this 2025 02:33:49,760 --> 02:33:53,359 item uh madam club 2026 02:33:53,600 --> 02:34:00,000 i've not received any comments and there are no hands raised in the zoom yeah 2027 02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:04,640 we'll bring it back to the council uh any other comments 2028 02:34:02,960 --> 02:34:09,120 no i just want to make a comment thank you uh 2029 02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:13,359 to uh especially alan uh to have a fresh look at this i remember the last couple 2030 02:34:11,200 --> 02:34:18,960 of times when there was an audit and the gentleman walked in with his little 2031 02:34:16,479 --> 02:34:23,680 briefcase and yeah thank you for doing a very thorough job we needed it thank you 2032 02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:27,120 thank you all right uh 2033 02:34:25,600 --> 02:34:30,120 here's there somebody wants to make a motion 2034 02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:42,399 head off hear me now 2035 02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:48,399 mr mayor i'd like to make a motion that we adopt resolution number 20 2036 02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:52,399 21-35 resolution of the city council of the city of clear lake accepting the 2037 02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:56,720 annual financial report for the fiscal year 2018 2038 02:34:54,479 --> 02:35:00,640 cash 2019. now though okay we have a motion by 2039 02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:06,080 councilman cramer and a second by vice mayor perdoc 2040 02:35:04,640 --> 02:35:10,080 all in favor all right hi all right motion carries we 2041 02:35:09,040 --> 02:35:16,319 go now back to item number 15. 2042 02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:16,319 thank you very much 2043 02:35:22,399 --> 02:35:29,760 backtrack to item number 15. this is an item for our public works 2044 02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:33,680 director if he's around well in this case our city engineer is going to okay 2045 02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:41,359 uh can you hear me okay yep oh yeah good evening mayor members of 2046 02:35:38,960 --> 02:35:45,920 the council uh dale asked me to sit in for him on this particular item 2047 02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:50,560 um this is a resolution that's a continuation of an 2048 02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:54,720 ongoing effort by the city to do some cleanup of a lot of the illegal 2049 02:35:52,399 --> 02:35:58,240 dumping that goes on throughout areas of the city in particular 2050 02:35:56,720 --> 02:36:02,720 in particular the area up around the pomo school 2051 02:36:00,880 --> 02:36:08,000 so this is a a a resolution that would 2052 02:36:06,840 --> 02:36:12,000 allow um city public works department to block 2053 02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:16,319 off a section of you can refer to it either as burns 2054 02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:20,640 valley drive or east lake drive i've never i haven't really 2055 02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:23,359 gotten into looking at the logistics of it so we'll call it both for now but 2056 02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:27,600 it's a it's a fairly uh 2057 02:36:25,359 --> 02:36:30,319 unwell trial or not well-traveled dirt road 2058 02:36:28,399 --> 02:36:33,200 that goes um northeast of the school 2059 02:36:32,240 --> 02:36:38,720 um the gates uh are kind of shown on a map 2060 02:36:36,319 --> 02:36:42,399 that dale had prepared there is one residence on fellers avenue that the 2061 02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:46,399 gate would go beyond that location to not prohibit any 2062 02:36:44,960 --> 02:36:52,800 access there and again this is uh 2063 02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:57,439 we'd also add some k rails as necessary to further block access because uh 2064 02:36:55,200 --> 02:37:02,800 the area off of that roadway is just a large dump site um and it doesn't uh 2065 02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:07,600 it's not used by police and fire there's nobody who lives 2066 02:37:05,040 --> 02:37:10,479 down in that area and we think it would be a good thing to do 2067 02:37:10,960 --> 02:37:16,479 all right we have any questions from council here 2068 02:37:15,280 --> 02:37:21,359 no no okay we open the public hearings we have 2069 02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:21,359 any comments from the public 2070 02:37:26,160 --> 02:37:32,240 there are no hands raised in the zoom mr mayor i have not received any email 2071 02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:35,439 comments okay we'll bring it back to the council 2072 02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:39,760 any more questions if not can i entertain a motion 2073 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:45,200 yes mr mr mayor 2074 02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:45,200 uh this is long overdue 2075 02:37:45,439 --> 02:37:54,319 i'd like to make a move that uh we adopt resolution number 2076 02:37:51,439 --> 02:37:59,520 28-20 is that correct 2077 02:37:56,560 --> 02:38:04,080 2021-3838 it's 20 21 that right 2078 02:38:02,319 --> 02:38:07,840 yes yes 38 a resolution of the city council of 2079 02:38:06,080 --> 02:38:12,479 the city of clear lake authorizing the ongoing closure of a segment of burns 2080 02:38:10,399 --> 02:38:17,359 valley road to reduce illegal dumping and to protect the environment and the 2081 02:38:14,080 --> 02:38:22,240 public health and welfare we have a motion by councilman cramer 2082 02:38:19,359 --> 02:38:26,479 second we have a second by vice mayor her doc 2083 02:38:23,520 --> 02:38:31,920 all in favor say aye aye aye aye all right we're going to move on to item 2084 02:38:28,399 --> 02:38:31,920 number 17. 2085 02:38:32,080 --> 02:38:41,729 mr lee lambert code enforcement here here's some pictures 2086 02:38:38,530 --> 02:38:41,729 [Music] 2087 02:38:48,319 --> 02:38:54,560 all right good evening mr mayor and council members uh 2088 02:38:52,319 --> 02:38:54,560 this 2089 02:38:54,800 --> 02:39:00,560 staff reports in regards to the demolition of 14525 2090 02:38:58,640 --> 02:39:04,720 lakeshore drive purpose of the hearing 2091 02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:07,680 uh is to allow the city manager uh 2092 02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:11,600 to execute a contract with toronto excavating incorporated for the 2093 02:39:09,280 --> 02:39:15,359 demolition of that address upon consideration of the evidence and 2094 02:39:13,439 --> 02:39:18,800 testimony council may 2095 02:39:16,880 --> 02:39:21,920 accept or deny the bid for demolition 2096 02:39:22,240 --> 02:39:28,640 a staff recommendation is to allow the city manager to execute a contract with 2097 02:39:26,479 --> 02:39:32,479 turner excavating inc for the demolition at one four five two five lakeshore 2098 02:39:30,319 --> 02:39:36,800 drive all right 2099 02:39:34,080 --> 02:39:42,560 so overall case activity and this case was started uh december 26 2018. 2100 02:39:40,640 --> 02:39:46,000 there's been 22 total compliance inspections a public nuisance citation 2101 02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:48,960 was issued a notice of violation was issued 2102 02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:52,720 and 11 administrative citations were issued 2103 02:39:50,160 --> 02:39:56,240 in order to abate was finally issued i believe is april of this year 2104 02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:07,309 um there are i believe it's 2105 02:40:04,180 --> 02:40:07,309 [Music] 2106 02:40:09,680 --> 02:40:17,960 11 different violations the crew musical code and the california 2107 02:40:14,319 --> 02:40:17,960 health and safety code 2108 02:40:25,600 --> 02:40:31,600 so that so i'll describe some of the pictures here uh that's a photo of a 2109 02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:35,840 electrical panel under the property where all the wires have been cut and 2110 02:40:32,960 --> 02:40:35,840 removed 2111 02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:42,800 that's how they built the deck around the existing meters and then all 2112 02:40:40,399 --> 02:40:45,359 the wires in the gutter above the meters have been cut 2113 02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:51,920 and that's a picture of how the inside has been left 2114 02:40:48,880 --> 02:40:51,920 inside sorry excuse me 2115 02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:56,399 um most of the damage to the building has 2116 02:40:54,479 --> 02:41:00,840 been caused by water damage as you'll see in the photos this is just 2117 02:40:58,240 --> 02:41:07,520 one area where the roof caved in another area where they've removed 2118 02:41:03,439 --> 02:41:07,520 sheetrock because to let moisture out 2119 02:41:08,479 --> 02:41:15,640 another area the whole main building is pretty much gutted like that 2120 02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:23,040 um that's an opening in the bar area that gets broken into a lot you can see 2121 02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:26,080 how they didn't really secure it all you have to 2122 02:41:24,640 --> 02:41:30,560 do is pull the plywood down people are getting in there all the time 2123 02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:35,520 so this picture here if you look in the background you see the wall of the 2124 02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:39,120 add-on how it's listing the parts listing out and the lower 2125 02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:43,880 parts listing in um that whole portion of the building is 2126 02:41:40,880 --> 02:41:43,880 failing 2127 02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:50,720 here's another fit why it's failing you have broken beams um and supports 2128 02:41:48,319 --> 02:41:50,720 underneath 2129 02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:56,880 that's the portion of the building failing right there looking straight on 2130 02:41:55,200 --> 02:42:00,960 additionally that swamp clear there is what they were using for the kitchen 2131 02:41:58,240 --> 02:42:00,960 exhaust vent 2132 02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:08,640 more weathering you can see where the water's been getting in creating dry rot 2133 02:42:06,399 --> 02:42:08,640 there 2134 02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:14,880 so this is what happened on the whole roof this was taken in the winter their 2135 02:42:12,560 --> 02:42:18,240 roof uh drainage wasn't leaking so the roof would 2136 02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:22,800 the water would just accumulate on the roof 2137 02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:27,479 and start getting into the wood going pouring down inside the interior 2138 02:42:24,479 --> 02:42:27,479 walls 2139 02:42:29,120 --> 02:42:34,960 so this one here as you could tell that if you look to the right of the concrete 2140 02:42:33,680 --> 02:42:39,120 it's dry this is water after several days of 2141 02:42:36,880 --> 02:42:43,439 being dry which is coming down the wall still creating dry rot in the walls 2142 02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:47,600 creating mold and things like this inside 2143 02:42:49,359 --> 02:42:53,080 ceiling falling down 2144 02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:05,040 mold more mold 2145 02:43:03,359 --> 02:43:09,760 and this is just a picture of how much we've tried to get him to comply 2146 02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:13,200 and he has failed to do so in 2147 02:43:10,479 --> 02:43:13,200 two and a half years 2148 02:43:14,960 --> 02:43:22,240 so case summary again it's been open since december 2018 2149 02:43:20,560 --> 02:43:26,479 the property owners made no attempt to comply with clearly musical code or the 2150 02:43:24,240 --> 02:43:29,439 california health and safety code um 2151 02:43:27,439 --> 02:43:33,840 it's a nuisance property in addition to all the code enforcement detail uh the 2152 02:43:31,840 --> 02:43:37,600 police department has responded 37 times in the last five years there for people 2153 02:43:35,359 --> 02:43:41,359 breaking in or people squatting in it people dumping things there things like 2154 02:43:39,120 --> 02:43:41,359 that 2155 02:43:46,800 --> 02:43:53,439 the city's exhausted all other means 2156 02:43:51,040 --> 02:43:58,960 uh to reach voluntary compliance we even looked into a possible receivership 2157 02:43:56,319 --> 02:44:03,520 but it's not feasible so at this time the staff recommends the city council 2158 02:44:00,960 --> 02:44:08,240 grant the city manager the right to execute a contract with turner 2159 02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:08,240 excavating 2160 02:44:08,319 --> 02:44:15,920 thank you okay we have questions from 2161 02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:18,479 council here mr purdue but mr kramer got us up first 2162 02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:32,000 turn that off this all those photos of course were 2163 02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:37,600 taken in 2018 and i fully agree that the owner in 2018 was a very poor owner 2164 02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:41,359 and um but do you are you aware that he doesn't 2165 02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:44,960 own it anymore that it was recently purchased and the person purchasing it 2166 02:44:43,439 --> 02:44:49,200 wants to uh rehabit has met with the city about 2167 02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:53,120 that yeah i think the city manager is going to speak further about that um 2168 02:44:51,040 --> 02:44:55,840 those photos though weren't all taking into account the ones i saw were data 2169 02:44:54,560 --> 02:45:00,520 yeah some are dated but the ones that weren't data were actually taken this 2170 02:44:57,279 --> 02:45:00,520 last year 2171 02:45:00,800 --> 02:45:07,520 i have no doubt that it needs a lot of work but again it's 2172 02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:07,520 not the same owner 2173 02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:15,240 i just wanna 2174 02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:26,479 so i wasn't i just happened to be in the city when he said he went over and paid 2175 02:45:24,960 --> 02:45:31,040 the fees and came over and and got the permits but he sounded 2176 02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:35,600 like he was going to tear it down because he was getting rating permits 2177 02:45:32,479 --> 02:45:38,640 and stuff i'll be happy to address um so 2178 02:45:36,319 --> 02:45:43,520 yeah mr ching said a lot of things um very few of which were true um 2179 02:45:41,040 --> 02:45:48,160 he did he did pay most of the administrative citations 2180 02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:53,120 within the last 30 days and i believe i talked to him a couple 2181 02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:58,319 of times that was largely i think motivated by 2182 02:45:55,520 --> 02:46:03,040 the fact that he he saw an end of the light for him to continue 2183 02:46:00,640 --> 02:46:06,560 um just ignoring the municipal code 2184 02:46:04,800 --> 02:46:12,319 and um but but one thing that has changed 2185 02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:16,880 recently is that he did sell this property and actually all of his 2186 02:46:14,399 --> 02:46:20,560 properties in the city which i think is is a very good thing 2187 02:46:19,200 --> 02:46:24,800 because all of his properties are in extremely poor condition 2188 02:46:22,399 --> 02:46:27,200 and our inner code enforcement problems um 2189 02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:33,359 so we did meet with the new owner there's a 2190 02:46:30,800 --> 02:46:38,880 family that purchased this property and a property that is just to the north 2191 02:46:36,479 --> 02:46:42,160 which includes several residential units and there was a separate 2192 02:46:40,560 --> 02:46:46,960 um um 2193 02:46:44,080 --> 02:46:52,479 purchaser of the apartments by the lamplighter between the lamplighter and 2194 02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:56,080 the the apartments that we recently sold so we did meet uh 2195 02:46:54,399 --> 02:46:58,640 with the new owners you know they 2196 02:46:58,800 --> 02:47:05,439 the issues with this property were not disclosed to them by mr ching and so 2197 02:47:04,080 --> 02:47:07,840 they were unaware of some of the situation 2198 02:47:08,160 --> 02:47:13,120 i believe that they are very well intentioned 2199 02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:18,479 and have a real desire to 2200 02:47:14,960 --> 02:47:22,160 invest in the community and turn these properties into something 2201 02:47:20,479 --> 02:47:24,880 that will be beneficial 2202 02:47:25,600 --> 02:47:32,720 however as explained to them while the citations were paid prior 2203 02:47:31,200 --> 02:47:36,720 to the property being sold all the violations remain 2204 02:47:34,560 --> 02:47:40,160 and will need to be addressed now they're doing an analysis 2205 02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:44,880 on um whether it's feasible for them you 2206 02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:49,439 know they when they bought it their idea was that they were going to 2207 02:47:46,560 --> 02:47:52,240 renovate the building um i think um 2208 02:47:52,319 --> 02:47:57,760 you know i don't know if that's that's feasible or not everyone that we've 2209 02:47:55,760 --> 02:48:00,840 talked to said that it's not you can see the condition of the building from the 2210 02:47:59,439 --> 02:48:05,520 images um and 2211 02:48:02,880 --> 02:48:11,279 the new owner is on zoom it looks like that she wanna may want to make some 2212 02:48:07,840 --> 02:48:15,200 comments but um i have communicated this to her 2213 02:48:12,800 --> 02:48:18,160 and her husband but my request of the council because of the history of this 2214 02:48:17,040 --> 02:48:22,880 property is that you still authorize me tonight 2215 02:48:20,640 --> 02:48:26,399 to have the authority to execute a contract to demolish this 2216 02:48:24,800 --> 02:48:31,359 building if there's not significant process or a progress from the new owner 2217 02:48:29,600 --> 02:48:34,720 in addressing the violations 2218 02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:41,840 okay just a short question to you that contract with 2219 02:48:39,680 --> 02:48:45,279 chernow construction i believe how long is that 2220 02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:48,399 is that a 90 day that's correct right it's i believe so 2221 02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:51,920 yeah oh if it's not 2222 02:48:49,760 --> 02:48:54,399 work doesn't start in 90 day it's null and void 2223 02:48:53,359 --> 02:48:58,640 or well we'd have to do another 2224 02:48:56,160 --> 02:49:03,840 uh request for bids yeah the bid wouldn't be good after that 2225 02:49:00,399 --> 02:49:07,680 okay any more questions from staff uh chief white please i i just wanted to 2226 02:49:05,600 --> 02:49:11,680 add just for context um i believe the other property that was purchased was 2227 02:49:08,960 --> 02:49:15,520 one four five four one lake shore and while we're cautiously optimistic 2228 02:49:13,439 --> 02:49:19,439 about it um i would mention that has an open case season as of right now there's 2229 02:49:17,359 --> 02:49:24,319 overflowing garbage going all over the area um so perhaps the proprietor might 2230 02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:27,279 address that as well if they're i see their hands right 2231 02:49:25,600 --> 02:49:33,120 there's also numerous electric violations on that property too with yes 2232 02:49:29,840 --> 02:49:37,479 wires right laying on all over the place all right we're going to open for public 2233 02:49:34,479 --> 02:49:37,479 hearings 2234 02:49:40,479 --> 02:49:47,160 lady that just purchased the property now is your time to 2235 02:49:43,760 --> 02:49:47,160 talk to us 2236 02:49:56,080 --> 02:50:02,080 hello mayor and council members this is rupa shaker here i'm sorry i am i didn't 2237 02:50:00,720 --> 02:50:07,439 get ready for the video because i'm away from the camera 2238 02:50:04,399 --> 02:50:10,800 but i will just speak today uh very nice to meet you all and thank you for 2239 02:50:08,880 --> 02:50:15,840 providing this opportunity to meet with you all and share my perspective it was 2240 02:50:13,600 --> 02:50:21,279 great to meet mr flora and his team yesterday and to hear his support so uh 2241 02:50:18,960 --> 02:50:25,359 we're really immensely thankful for that my name is as they all mentioned my my 2242 02:50:23,359 --> 02:50:29,680 name is rupa shaker very new to clear lake little story to share that i shared 2243 02:50:27,439 --> 02:50:32,800 with everyone yesterday that i visited clear lake with my family my two girls 2244 02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:36,479 and my husband in the month of april for a spring break 2245 02:50:34,800 --> 02:50:39,439 tell in love with your town and fell in love with your lake 2246 02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:43,600 and since then i was kind of scrolling on veteran and 2247 02:50:40,800 --> 02:50:48,720 uh onsite online to look for lakeside properties and then these two came along 2248 02:50:46,319 --> 02:50:54,960 which is the one four five two five and one four five four when we were excited 2249 02:50:52,160 --> 02:51:00,319 and with big dreams we decided to invest in your town on in these 2250 02:50:57,279 --> 02:51:04,319 properties with a with a plan to make this as a place to go 2251 02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:07,040 for business shopping dining and entertainment 2252 02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:11,840 i've seen the commercial unit and the pictures that 2253 02:51:09,359 --> 02:51:14,960 was taken in 2018 looks much worse than what i've seen 2254 02:51:13,200 --> 02:51:19,359 um because everything in the interior has been cleaned out since then i want 2255 02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:24,399 to make this a place for a hangout for tourists and look likes that's our dream 2256 02:51:22,000 --> 02:51:27,920 we closed our escrow just less than a month ago 2257 02:51:25,680 --> 02:51:32,479 just few weeks ago and it was a nightmare for us to hear that this 2258 02:51:30,479 --> 02:51:37,680 discussion is happening in the city which we were not aware of 2259 02:51:34,399 --> 02:51:42,640 and we have already taken some steps to uh uh you know improve the property you 2260 02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:47,760 know small steps but still we removed the junk inside the property and outside 2261 02:51:44,560 --> 02:51:52,080 the property we uh boarded the place so that no i like i know where the homeless 2262 02:51:50,160 --> 02:51:56,160 people are hanging out and trashing the place to avoid vandalism 2263 02:51:54,160 --> 02:52:00,720 we have replaced the door at the back and we do know about the water damage 2264 02:51:58,880 --> 02:52:05,200 and then the electrical outlet problems we will address that soon 2265 02:52:02,720 --> 02:52:08,000 we kindly request you all to give us some time 2266 02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:11,359 to make sure that the properties are taken 2267 02:52:10,240 --> 02:52:16,479 care well it takes a long time but will take small 2268 02:52:14,080 --> 02:52:20,960 steps towards the improvement so i just wanted to kind of request that 2269 02:52:18,800 --> 02:52:25,439 we are given extra time rather than hasting and demolishing and investing 2270 02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:30,399 the 55 000 which could be used for a different better purposes to 2271 02:52:28,160 --> 02:52:33,279 improve the economy of the clear lake that's all i have to say thank you for 2272 02:52:32,080 --> 02:52:36,399 listening to me thank you 2273 02:52:34,479 --> 02:52:41,439 are there any other people on the public that wants to speak 2274 02:52:38,880 --> 02:52:45,040 on this issue right here there are no further hands raised in the 2275 02:52:43,120 --> 02:52:49,520 zoom we have one public menu yeah 2276 02:52:47,680 --> 02:52:54,080 mr huge thank you uh 2277 02:52:51,279 --> 02:52:58,560 mr mayor and city council uh dave hughes realty world 2278 02:52:56,080 --> 02:53:03,200 i got involved in this last week when an architect that was up here to 2279 02:53:01,359 --> 02:53:07,920 working with the rupa and her husband 2280 02:53:05,840 --> 02:53:12,720 called me and wanted to meet at the property after he got done meeting at 2281 02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:12,720 city hall 2282 02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:20,640 i have suggested to the buyers that they go back to the agent 2283 02:53:18,960 --> 02:53:26,479 that they worked through and find out why they weren't told about 2284 02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:30,160 the ongoing issues that's a pretty significant 2285 02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:34,640 non-disclosure so 2286 02:53:32,240 --> 02:53:39,200 i would like to concur with her and and ask that the city council give her 2287 02:53:36,640 --> 02:53:45,680 some time to start trying to figure out what the heck they can do or can't do or 2288 02:53:41,840 --> 02:53:50,640 should do or might want to do my other thought is 2289 02:53:47,600 --> 02:53:57,120 i'm assuming that a bid to demolish the building has to be done 2290 02:53:54,240 --> 02:54:00,399 uh if the city gets the bid with prevailing wage 2291 02:53:58,880 --> 02:54:04,080 and if it comes to the fact that the 2292 02:54:02,160 --> 02:54:10,080 building needs to be demolished i think the property owner should be given the 2293 02:54:06,399 --> 02:54:15,120 opportunity to get her own bids that might be a little less costly i 2294 02:54:12,880 --> 02:54:21,439 have no idea but i'm assuming that the bid had to be prevailing wage 2295 02:54:17,600 --> 02:54:26,800 and i understand maybe the desire to keep some fire under someone's 2296 02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:31,680 feet and keep some pressure on to to get something done because it's been three 2297 02:54:29,680 --> 02:54:35,359 years now but 2298 02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:38,800 we do have a new property owner that had no idea about the 2299 02:54:37,279 --> 02:54:44,800 um uh ongoing i mean her her architect told 2300 02:54:42,640 --> 02:54:48,479 them last week after they closed escrow about 2301 02:54:46,319 --> 02:54:52,560 the the city wanting to demolish the building 2302 02:54:49,520 --> 02:54:55,920 so my my only purpose here is to certainly give them some time to do it 2303 02:54:54,640 --> 02:55:00,560 and maybe not accept the bids um 2304 02:54:58,800 --> 02:55:03,600 with the understanding that if there's not ongoing progress the city is going 2305 02:55:02,880 --> 02:55:08,000 to press for the demolition 2306 02:55:05,520 --> 02:55:11,840 uh but at least maybe give them the opportunity to get their own bids which 2307 02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:14,399 might be less money i'd like i said i don't know but i'm assuming prevailing 2308 02:55:13,520 --> 02:55:18,240 wage is is part of the bids that have been 2309 02:55:16,240 --> 02:55:23,279 submitted thank you thank you uh 2310 02:55:20,720 --> 02:55:28,160 mr president product has a comment well just a question to the new property 2311 02:55:24,880 --> 02:55:33,279 owner is it probably curing close no it's not closed yet 2312 02:55:31,120 --> 02:55:36,640 can you uh provide us with some sort of a timeline when you said you wanted to 2313 02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:41,200 get this work done uh and you wanted to get um on it fairly 2314 02:55:39,200 --> 02:55:44,880 soon but we didn't have any timelines you have any idea when that when you 2315 02:55:42,960 --> 02:55:49,359 might be able to get started so to be honest with you i have a as a 2316 02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:54,640 as uh mr dave kind of mentioned i had my article 2317 02:55:51,600 --> 02:55:59,439 come over look at it and i have a um you know workers were started to work on it 2318 02:55:56,880 --> 02:56:02,720 with making some minor modifications to it 2319 02:56:00,319 --> 02:56:05,840 as i shared with miss flora and team this 2320 02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:11,200 property you know cost money to accelerate the improvement but i 2321 02:56:08,960 --> 02:56:16,000 what i assure you is that we are constantly making you i mean i have 2322 02:56:13,120 --> 02:56:19,680 passed the improvements knowing that the city is demolishing and i didn't want to 2323 02:56:17,520 --> 02:56:24,240 put money into the demolishing property so if you all give me time and say that 2324 02:56:22,319 --> 02:56:28,640 yes you can continue to modify it and improve it my work will start from 2325 02:56:26,000 --> 02:56:32,479 monday we will make small improvements check out the foundation check all the 2326 02:56:30,160 --> 02:56:36,319 electrics check out the plumbing and i need to fix the 2327 02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:41,279 um there are some termite activities i need to fix those so 2328 02:56:38,560 --> 02:56:45,760 the improvements will start immediately with a steady progress but i cannot give 2329 02:56:43,760 --> 02:56:50,800 a timeline as to when it will be done because i just bought the property three 2330 02:56:47,520 --> 02:56:50,800 weeks back and i need time 2331 02:56:51,040 --> 02:56:57,200 okay thank you yeah and also while i'm on the audio i 2332 02:56:55,040 --> 02:57:01,120 wanted to address the 15451 the apartment building too 2333 02:56:58,880 --> 02:57:04,080 uh even on that property we have started off 2334 02:57:01,920 --> 02:57:07,680 improvements meaning that last week we cleaned up the property took out the 2335 02:57:05,520 --> 02:57:12,560 junks cleaning the vegetation we will install a new fence and then the 2336 02:57:10,160 --> 02:57:17,279 glue overflowing garbage is due to two reasons one is that it's an apartment 2337 02:57:15,120 --> 02:57:21,279 complex and that particular garbage bin is smaller from what i understand from 2338 02:57:18,880 --> 02:57:25,600 my tenants and also i hear that a lot of public dumping because it's right on the 2339 02:57:23,359 --> 02:57:30,399 door many people come and dump other junks in there so i'm taking the action 2340 02:57:27,920 --> 02:57:34,479 requesting the required a department within the city to give us a bigger bin 2341 02:57:32,720 --> 02:57:38,160 and probably move the bin to the middle of the property so that it's not easily 2342 02:57:36,240 --> 02:57:41,520 accessible by the public and when i install the 2343 02:57:39,600 --> 02:57:45,520 uh fence maybe it'll be less messy but i do agree with you 2344 02:57:43,520 --> 02:57:50,960 all that the property is not in great condition uh and it is not clean and i 2345 02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:55,120 commit to make sure those two properties are taken care and turned around and 2346 02:57:53,600 --> 02:57:58,399 that's the reason why we dreamt of buying a property in the lakeside and 2347 02:57:56,479 --> 02:58:02,319 improve it and not to maintain the same way it is otherwise you want about it 2348 02:58:00,240 --> 02:58:06,560 and i know i paid premium for that from what i hear and what i compare after 2349 02:58:04,560 --> 02:58:10,160 buying it's an aftermath part but i don't want to i'll learn the past but i 2350 02:58:07,840 --> 02:58:14,319 want to move on okay thank you um mr kramer your 2351 02:58:12,880 --> 02:58:21,279 councilman graham just just uh clarification uh rupa 2352 02:58:19,120 --> 02:58:25,840 you've owned the property what less than a month two weeks 2353 02:58:23,120 --> 02:58:28,800 three weeks yes three weeks running now and 2354 02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:32,640 did you say that you already have people in there cleaning it 2355 02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:36,319 working on it oh yeah well yes many work has already been done 2356 02:58:34,240 --> 02:58:39,520 and i'm painting the i've got the bits for painting the properties and i 2357 02:58:38,160 --> 02:58:44,000 already as i mentioned made few modifications the commercial with a new 2358 02:58:41,359 --> 02:58:49,120 door installed from home depot etc so yes the work has started 2359 02:58:46,479 --> 02:58:52,720 but again i think one of the mayor or the council member asked me what's the 2360 02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:57,040 timeline i don't have a project plan to give but what i assure you is that there 2361 02:58:54,880 --> 02:59:00,479 will be progress on a daily basis in small steps 2362 02:58:59,600 --> 02:59:04,479 thank you okay any any other 2363 02:59:02,560 --> 02:59:08,479 public comments if not we'll bring them back to the council mr flora look like 2364 02:59:06,880 --> 02:59:13,920 you want to say something yeah i mean i just want to clarify i mean you know 2365 02:59:10,560 --> 02:59:19,279 the city isn't looking to spend 55 000 on this if it's not necessary i mean to 2366 02:59:16,800 --> 02:59:23,840 mr hughes's comments of course if um the current property owner was to 2367 02:59:22,240 --> 02:59:27,359 demolish the building they would be able to do it 2368 02:59:24,960 --> 02:59:31,439 cheaper than we would the only way for us to recover the funds 2369 02:59:29,520 --> 02:59:35,680 is through a lien on the property which we 2370 02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:41,840 it doesn't get paid on unless the property is transferred normally 2371 02:59:39,359 --> 02:59:44,640 but you know this is a long-standing issue 2372 02:59:42,880 --> 02:59:49,920 it's one of the worst looking properties in the city 2373 02:59:47,279 --> 02:59:55,520 in one of our most visible corridors and while i do believe that 2374 02:59:53,120 --> 02:59:58,240 their intent is good and 2375 02:59:56,479 --> 03:00:03,600 they have the means to make some investments in the property i believe 2376 03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:08,000 that the city needs to apply as much pressure as possible to make sure 2377 03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:13,520 that the cleaning up of this this um 2378 03:00:10,319 --> 03:00:17,600 this parcel happens and so you know if we were to move forward with 2379 03:00:15,120 --> 03:00:23,520 the contract because there's a new owner we'd be required 2380 03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:28,240 to do a new round of noticing and there will be an opportunity for 2381 03:00:26,720 --> 03:00:32,479 an appeal of the abatement which could come to the 2382 03:00:30,640 --> 03:00:36,479 council correct so you know there are some opportunities 2383 03:00:34,720 --> 03:00:42,560 there but you know i think we need to keep the 2384 03:00:39,920 --> 03:00:47,680 pressure on to make sure that this um extremely derelict um and extremely 2385 03:00:45,200 --> 03:00:52,479 visible property in the city um is improved as soon as possible 2386 03:00:50,399 --> 03:00:58,080 more comments from the council i have a question we happen to have a uh 2387 03:00:56,000 --> 03:01:02,560 our attorney here and i'm concerned about a an improper taking of property 2388 03:01:00,800 --> 03:01:07,359 or any any liability issues there well i 2389 03:01:05,520 --> 03:01:12,000 understand your concern and mr floor and i talked about this 2390 03:01:08,960 --> 03:01:15,439 as recent as last week i think there was a more of a due 2391 03:01:13,439 --> 03:01:20,960 process and noticing issue and and we would 2392 03:01:17,520 --> 03:01:24,880 re-notice the new owner with all the issues that mr ching had been notified 2393 03:01:22,800 --> 03:01:27,439 of for years and i think as long as you give that 2394 03:01:26,240 --> 03:01:31,520 notice which could would happen before any demolition 2395 03:01:29,680 --> 03:01:34,479 would actually take place so that would 2396 03:01:33,279 --> 03:01:38,319 that would need to that would need to take place otherwise you could have an 2397 03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:44,160 issue of a of a taking or some kind of what's the timeline for that 60 90 days 2398 03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:46,800 120 days 16. yeah i don't know that our code says you usually give people a 2399 03:01:45,200 --> 03:01:51,439 reasonable amount of time 30 days 60 days somewhere in that that time frame 2400 03:01:48,160 --> 03:01:56,479 is that about right i'm not sure yeah there's a variety of uh timelines 2401 03:01:53,600 --> 03:02:00,240 and um if there was new noticing for the notice of intent to abate and demolish 2402 03:01:58,560 --> 03:02:05,520 there would be a hearing i believe it would come back before council 2403 03:02:02,800 --> 03:02:05,520 if that happened 2404 03:02:06,960 --> 03:02:09,520 timeline 2405 03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:16,760 for which portion before we can tear that building down 2406 03:02:17,279 --> 03:02:23,040 well correct me i'm wrong uh lee but i believe it's going to be 21 days for the 2407 03:02:21,840 --> 03:02:25,920 notice correct 2408 03:02:24,399 --> 03:02:29,200 yes would be 21 days and then if they gave notice that they wanted to appeal 2409 03:02:27,120 --> 03:02:32,319 then they'd post their deposit for a hearing we'd set up for a hearing 2410 03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:35,520 so you know potentially depend upon how 2411 03:02:33,680 --> 03:02:38,960 long that took out and i believe city attorney correct me i'm wrong but i 2412 03:02:37,520 --> 03:02:42,399 believe once we made a decision they could try to take it to court if they've 2413 03:02:40,640 --> 03:02:47,120 exhausted all their rights within the city in terms of appeal process so 2414 03:02:44,960 --> 03:02:51,439 potentially it could stretch out um our experience with the property has 2415 03:02:48,640 --> 03:02:55,359 generally been little to no response or what i call informal kind of out-of-band 2416 03:02:53,359 --> 03:02:59,760 responses like showing up in the lobby that sort of thing 2417 03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:03,520 and if we're talking about the old owner i'd say let's go for it at this point 2418 03:03:01,760 --> 03:03:07,840 but we're not we're talking about somebody that just bought it has clearly 2419 03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:12,399 shown an intent to try to do what's right 2420 03:03:08,880 --> 03:03:16,080 and it seems to me that to award this contract right now is probably not going 2421 03:03:14,560 --> 03:03:21,600 to happen anyway because with the timelines for noticing for 2422 03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:26,399 appeals etc etc so i i just i don't see what we're 2423 03:03:23,680 --> 03:03:29,920 accomplishing i understand mr flora your your 2424 03:03:27,359 --> 03:03:34,960 desire to keep pressure on but i i just i don't i don't see it and 2425 03:03:32,880 --> 03:03:39,040 i don't agree with it i think that she should be given she and her partner 2426 03:03:37,120 --> 03:03:43,040 should be given time to perform or not 2427 03:03:41,680 --> 03:03:46,560 and it's not going to take us three years obviously to let that happen it's 2428 03:03:45,279 --> 03:03:50,960 gonna it's not gonna let it go that long but i 2429 03:03:48,880 --> 03:03:54,720 don't think that this contract could can happen in 90 days 2430 03:03:52,840 --> 03:03:57,359 anyway so 2431 03:03:55,600 --> 03:04:02,080 i'm not in favor of it also woman overton 2432 03:03:59,520 --> 03:04:06,080 i i agree i guess my one of my questions to the 2433 03:04:04,399 --> 03:04:09,760 new owner is um did you not see this place before you 2434 03:04:08,240 --> 03:04:14,399 bought it yes we did visit the place and when we 2435 03:04:12,880 --> 03:04:18,000 visit the place it was not like the picture that was shown 2436 03:04:15,920 --> 03:04:22,960 the roof was taken out the roof the floor was taken out there was little uh 2437 03:04:20,800 --> 03:04:28,800 like the table tables and chairs from the restaurant with stove etcetera so we 2438 03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:32,399 knew it was a fixer-upper but we thought that you know it's a 2439 03:04:29,840 --> 03:04:36,080 fixer-upper so we'll start fixing up and we will turn it around and 2440 03:04:34,560 --> 03:04:41,840 because we're not gotten the mortgage from the bank our intent is to get this 2441 03:04:39,279 --> 03:04:45,600 ready get this rented i can start paying my market so 2442 03:04:44,080 --> 03:04:49,680 the plan is to move it around quickly and i would like to support miss flora 2443 03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:53,760 with his uh expectation and work with him and keep 2444 03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:57,520 him updated on a regular basis of the progress we make 2445 03:04:55,279 --> 03:05:04,479 and i want to support him okay so can i ask a question here 2446 03:05:01,439 --> 03:05:08,080 can we postpone this to another meeting without making a vote on it today and 2447 03:05:06,399 --> 03:05:12,160 just postpone it and see what she does before we just say we're not going to do 2448 03:05:10,319 --> 03:05:17,279 anything can we table this well of course yeah i 2449 03:05:14,880 --> 03:05:20,399 mean i say let's see what she does in a couple of weeks and 2450 03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:23,359 and i mean you know the 2451 03:05:21,439 --> 03:05:27,520 none of the violations have been cured so 2452 03:05:24,240 --> 03:05:32,800 um they have uh i don't know if you discussed anything um 2453 03:05:30,800 --> 03:05:35,760 yesterday with you know how long they have to cure the 2454 03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:38,640 violations but i mean there's going to be 2455 03:05:36,479 --> 03:05:43,840 other timelines i i'm just exhausted with this property 2456 03:05:41,760 --> 03:05:48,080 and i think you know any daylight is too much 2457 03:05:45,840 --> 03:05:53,680 daylight in my opinion but and i'm i understand your frustration 2458 03:05:51,120 --> 03:05:56,160 it's just this is like the last place in this town 2459 03:05:55,040 --> 03:05:59,279 that can still have entertainment i mean 2460 03:05:58,319 --> 03:06:05,200 literally we keep asking for people to come to our 2461 03:06:02,399 --> 03:06:08,240 city but we have nothing to offer them and here's another building that we're 2462 03:06:06,560 --> 03:06:12,800 going to take out the last building that we have for entertainment 2463 03:06:10,000 --> 03:06:17,279 i i i want to give her a chance to get it i understand that that our the past 2464 03:06:15,520 --> 03:06:20,880 owner was a real pain um but i want to give her a chance and 2465 03:06:19,200 --> 03:06:23,520 i've i've seen this happen where we voted on something and the administrator 2466 03:06:22,479 --> 03:06:28,880 said i'm not going to do anything and next thing you know it was gone so um 2467 03:06:26,800 --> 03:06:32,880 i just i feel like either we table it and see what she does and 2468 03:06:30,880 --> 03:06:37,359 and give her at least a little bit of a chance give her one month or something 2469 03:06:34,479 --> 03:06:41,439 to to see if you know what she can do and then if we don't see a good progress 2470 03:06:39,840 --> 03:06:46,319 then come back and bring it back to us you know 2471 03:06:43,439 --> 03:06:49,279 i thought chief white had a cook i just i i don't want to interfere with 2472 03:06:47,680 --> 03:06:52,319 your deliberation but i did want to make the final plea at it and i think that 2473 03:06:51,279 --> 03:06:55,520 the commentary during the public comment is 2474 03:06:53,920 --> 03:06:58,800 is illustrative there's a mention about that they've already begun boarding up 2475 03:06:56,800 --> 03:07:01,760 the building your council authorizes ordinance that specifically prohibits 2476 03:07:00,319 --> 03:07:05,200 that without a permit because we don't want boarded up buildings in the city 2477 03:07:03,760 --> 03:07:09,439 there's no indication in the record that there's any attempt to obtain a permit 2478 03:07:07,200 --> 03:07:12,640 or comply with the city codes from just an objective perspective of 2479 03:07:11,279 --> 03:07:18,080 watching these things i heard a lot of discussion about well-intentioned and so 2480 03:07:15,040 --> 03:07:20,720 forth and that may very well be the case however 2481 03:07:19,760 --> 03:07:23,920 the lack of any basic checking i mean you 2482 03:07:22,720 --> 03:07:27,760 saw the picture with the notice of violation stacked on the front door and 2483 03:07:25,760 --> 03:07:33,439 everything else there's very serious issues here and i think that um you know 2484 03:07:30,399 --> 03:07:35,920 at this point from the staff perspective we've come to you because we've 2485 03:07:34,319 --> 03:07:39,840 essentially done most everything that we can do we can leverage with some more 2486 03:07:37,439 --> 03:07:44,080 citations and so forth and i'd expect actually following this meeting that we 2487 03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:48,479 will initiate a whole new set of actions based upon what's existing there and 2488 03:07:45,520 --> 03:07:54,000 what new violations have been disclosed i think that it's important 2489 03:07:51,439 --> 03:07:58,560 when we get to these phases to have some sort of tool to try to compel 2490 03:07:56,319 --> 03:08:02,800 that compliance my fear is that we wait another month we'll be right 2491 03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:07,040 back at the same situation trying to ask for the same authority and so forth 2492 03:08:05,120 --> 03:08:10,399 and we just continue to kind of push the problem down the road i think from the 2493 03:08:08,960 --> 03:08:14,399 staff intent i don't want to spend a dime trying to clean up this property if 2494 03:08:12,800 --> 03:08:17,600 we can try to compel it obviously i think there's good points we already 2495 03:08:15,600 --> 03:08:21,680 discussed internally about the fact they could do it at 2496 03:08:19,359 --> 03:08:25,279 non-prevailing wage rates and so forth um but it's important that we have a 2497 03:08:23,120 --> 03:08:29,359 tool if we don't have that tool i hear a lot of excuses on there even related to 2498 03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:32,160 the other property uh since they brought up 2499 03:08:30,640 --> 03:08:36,399 every other city that i've been at you have stuff enclosed in concrete barriers 2500 03:08:34,240 --> 03:08:39,120 with doors there's no attempt to do that out there 2501 03:08:37,520 --> 03:08:42,160 and so i think that's the same type of issues that we see here a lot of good 2502 03:08:40,960 --> 03:08:45,279 intentions but i've seen a lot of projects come into the city in the three 2503 03:08:43,600 --> 03:08:49,120 years that i've been here that are well intentioned 2504 03:08:46,479 --> 03:08:52,880 but very basic elementary discovery things weren't done we have people that 2505 03:08:50,720 --> 03:08:58,240 buy houses here that call into code enforcement and ask do you have open 2506 03:08:54,240 --> 03:09:01,279 cases and so forth so um i hope that it turns out differently but 2507 03:09:00,080 --> 03:09:05,359 from the police department and code enforcement perspective we would plead 2508 03:09:03,359 --> 03:09:10,160 that you give the city manager the authority to move forward if it's 2509 03:09:07,680 --> 03:09:13,600 necessary in this particular case hopefully it won't be and we'll all be 2510 03:09:11,680 --> 03:09:18,080 surprised thank you uh councilman claffy we haven't heard 2511 03:09:16,240 --> 03:09:21,359 from you on this uh you have any comments 2512 03:09:19,359 --> 03:09:25,279 yeah i'm just listening to the the back and forth i'm i'm 2513 03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:27,920 i'm comfortable tabling for now um 2514 03:09:26,160 --> 03:09:32,640 you know i think three weeks is a very short time 2515 03:09:30,000 --> 03:09:35,600 to to start making changes it sounds like there's a lot of changes that need 2516 03:09:34,000 --> 03:09:39,439 to be made it sounds like there's a lot of research that needs to be done by the 2517 03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:44,800 owner and i think if we if we keep that window tight we'll still 2518 03:09:41,439 --> 03:09:50,080 be able to activate this bid in a future council meeting i i don't 2519 03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:53,760 see a downside to tabling it uh re-noticing this owner and then moving 2520 03:09:52,479 --> 03:09:56,399 forward if we need to if we're not seeing progress 2521 03:09:56,880 --> 03:10:02,880 all right thank you councilman claffy vice mayor product i 2522 03:10:01,359 --> 03:10:06,960 just need some clarification and i apologize but 2523 03:10:05,200 --> 03:10:10,800 if we approve this tonight and we have a 90-day contract with the 2524 03:10:09,120 --> 03:10:14,640 contra with the demo 2525 03:10:12,560 --> 03:10:17,760 um when would you implement when would you 2526 03:10:16,560 --> 03:10:21,120 when you would you have them come in and demo 2527 03:10:19,920 --> 03:10:24,319 um would it be immediate after making this 2528 03:10:22,960 --> 03:10:28,399 decision or would you 2529 03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:31,760 allow the new new owner to get the permits as the chief has pointed out the 2530 03:10:30,319 --> 03:10:35,359 chief made a very compelling argument just now 2531 03:10:33,040 --> 03:10:35,359 um 2532 03:10:35,439 --> 03:10:43,920 i just want to know um reasonableness on this what would a reasonable person 2533 03:10:39,920 --> 03:10:43,920 do well i mean i think um 2534 03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:51,760 you know until yesterday the new owners didn't have the 2535 03:10:49,040 --> 03:10:55,200 list of existing violations um 2536 03:10:52,960 --> 03:10:58,479 and so obviously we need to provide a little bit of time i mean what we 2537 03:10:56,720 --> 03:11:02,960 discussed was the first thing you need to do i mean we had some discussion 2538 03:11:00,800 --> 03:11:06,319 about what happens next and what their vision is for the property and all that 2539 03:11:04,319 --> 03:11:10,080 that's great but you know we have all these violations that have to be cured 2540 03:11:08,160 --> 03:11:14,319 somehow which are you know are way past due so 2541 03:11:11,680 --> 03:11:18,160 they need to come back with a plan um right that's what i was asking about 2542 03:11:16,399 --> 03:11:21,920 how to deal with that so you know i think there's no reason that 2543 03:11:20,479 --> 03:11:24,960 they shouldn't be able to develop some type of plan on that in a couple of 2544 03:11:23,600 --> 03:11:28,800 weeks talking with the contractor are they 2545 03:11:26,640 --> 03:11:33,200 already have you know consulted with an architect so 2546 03:11:30,240 --> 03:11:37,439 um you know i really uh think that there should be a 2547 03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:42,240 determination made within a few weeks on whether it's even feasible to keep the 2548 03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:46,800 building or if they want to begin investing in 2549 03:11:44,800 --> 03:11:51,680 in resolving those things i mean you know i i hope i was clear like 2550 03:11:49,600 --> 03:11:55,600 my intention wouldn't be or you know the staff's intention to turn around next 2551 03:11:53,840 --> 03:12:00,000 week and issue the um abatement contract as much as i 2552 03:11:58,319 --> 03:12:05,200 would love to see or never see that building again but um 2553 03:12:02,960 --> 03:12:09,200 you know obviously the the situation here while you know it's clear there 2554 03:12:07,120 --> 03:12:13,840 wasn't no enough due diligence done i believe you know a short window 2555 03:12:11,600 --> 03:12:18,399 is reasonable for them to try and attempt this i'm just concerned as chief 2556 03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:21,279 white mentioned um you know i think 2557 03:12:21,439 --> 03:12:28,960 you know the the council has always been really good about drawing a firm line on 2558 03:12:26,720 --> 03:12:34,160 these code enforcement cases because the blight has overtaken the city for years 2559 03:12:32,800 --> 03:12:39,279 and you know i just think 2560 03:12:36,800 --> 03:12:41,520 the pressure to perform needs to be there 2561 03:12:41,920 --> 03:12:49,200 that's my you have some more go ahead mr graham 2562 03:12:47,520 --> 03:12:53,200 chief white you do make a compelling argument and if we were talking about 2563 03:12:50,960 --> 03:12:57,520 the old owner i absolutely totally agree with you again we're not 2564 03:12:55,279 --> 03:13:01,040 uh to table this for two weeks and give her an opportunity to come up with some 2565 03:12:59,359 --> 03:13:04,160 sort of a plan or maybe come up the conclusion that oh christ we can't do 2566 03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:07,200 anything like this let's give her that two weeks it's 2567 03:13:05,520 --> 03:13:10,479 what's it gonna hurt you're still within your window to 2568 03:13:08,640 --> 03:13:14,399 to approve the the demolition contract with the with 2569 03:13:12,720 --> 03:13:19,760 the contractor so i i very much would like to see his 2570 03:13:17,200 --> 03:13:19,760 table list 2571 03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:25,600 and that's all i had to say um 2572 03:13:24,000 --> 03:13:30,800 i went in the building after they kind of cleaned it up and it's in my opinion 2573 03:13:29,439 --> 03:13:34,239 and i'm not an expert i'm not a structural engineer i'm not a thing 2574 03:13:33,200 --> 03:13:38,479 uh i i really 2575 03:13:36,160 --> 03:13:44,800 don't see how they can fix this building up with a substantial 2576 03:13:41,840 --> 03:13:48,479 a lot of structural improvements this is a building that needs hundreds 2577 03:13:46,800 --> 03:13:52,800 of thousands of dollars in order to save it 2578 03:13:50,239 --> 03:13:52,800 so i 2579 03:13:53,359 --> 03:13:58,000 obviously we want to 2580 03:13:56,160 --> 03:14:02,160 give the new owner a chance 2581 03:14:00,000 --> 03:14:07,760 and if they address them citations in a 2582 03:14:04,720 --> 03:14:13,600 two or three week time frame if that's if they're willing to uh 2583 03:14:11,040 --> 03:14:17,680 to invest that kind of money in and reboot in 2584 03:14:15,439 --> 03:14:21,279 remodeling and upgrading that building more power to them because i wouldn't 2585 03:14:22,399 --> 03:14:27,600 so what do we have we have three people that want to table 2586 03:14:25,840 --> 03:14:31,920 that so how do we do that mr uh 2587 03:14:30,080 --> 03:14:37,680 i think you just don't need to take any action no action no action okay 2588 03:14:35,040 --> 03:14:42,399 all right looks like the new owner has probably three weeks to deal with this 2589 03:14:40,960 --> 03:14:46,080 thank you very much we appreciate you well hold on mr mayor 2590 03:14:44,960 --> 03:14:50,560 do you intend to bring that back to council 2591 03:14:47,840 --> 03:14:54,720 i i it all depends on what happens in the next few weeks if nothing happens 2592 03:14:52,560 --> 03:14:58,960 you'll bring this back would you like to get yes 2593 03:14:56,960 --> 03:15:03,359 yes bring it back yes we will like to hear it again 2594 03:15:00,479 --> 03:15:08,160 all right we'll go to item number 18 2595 03:15:05,359 --> 03:15:10,560 mr allen florence jordan 2596 03:15:10,720 --> 03:15:18,720 okay uh mr mayor members of the council um so 2597 03:15:14,720 --> 03:15:18,720 i'll be brief on this but um 2598 03:15:19,040 --> 03:15:28,319 you know we've we've been uh so mli associates uh which uh mr matt 2599 03:15:25,920 --> 03:15:33,520 patel is the sole owner um is a an experienced um hotel 2600 03:15:30,960 --> 03:15:37,200 developer and we've been talking to him for a while about a couple of project 2601 03:15:35,439 --> 03:15:40,399 opportunities in the city um 2602 03:15:38,080 --> 03:15:44,239 most recently um we've been negotiating about developing 2603 03:15:42,880 --> 03:15:47,359 a hotel at the former pierce field on 2604 03:15:45,920 --> 03:15:50,720 approximately two and a half acres of land 2605 03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:54,479 we have been able to negotiate a purchase and sale agreement with mr 2606 03:15:53,120 --> 03:15:58,880 patel and 2607 03:15:55,760 --> 03:16:03,760 so i can kind of go over a few of the points hopefully you've had 2608 03:16:00,880 --> 03:16:07,359 a chance to review the agreement um one thing 2609 03:16:04,880 --> 03:16:12,319 taking a look at the map the well so first of all the 2610 03:16:09,040 --> 03:16:15,600 proposed project would be a 75 room fairfield inn 2611 03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:22,000 with a small conference center and possibly some other retail on the site 2612 03:16:18,800 --> 03:16:26,560 um and just for context this site is on the far northern part of the property 2613 03:16:24,319 --> 03:16:31,279 that's owned by the city at the end of the former runway 2614 03:16:28,560 --> 03:16:35,600 and um so the sale price for the probably 305 thousand the city would 2615 03:16:33,680 --> 03:16:40,800 hold a note um on so there would be a 50 000 2616 03:16:38,800 --> 03:16:43,279 uh payment made 2617 03:16:42,080 --> 03:16:48,160 and then the city would hold a note on the rest 2618 03:16:45,680 --> 03:16:53,520 the way the agreement is structured is there be a number of deadlines 2619 03:16:51,359 --> 03:16:58,640 the first one being 14 months after closing 2620 03:16:54,640 --> 03:17:04,160 to get all entitlements complete 20 months after closing 2621 03:17:01,760 --> 03:17:04,160 would be 2622 03:17:04,800 --> 03:17:11,439 to begin construction and then the total project would need to be complete within 2623 03:17:10,160 --> 03:17:14,479 three years and if those each of those deadlines are 2624 03:17:13,680 --> 03:17:17,520 met the remaining 2625 03:17:16,319 --> 03:17:21,840 payments on the note would be forgiven and this 2626 03:17:19,840 --> 03:17:26,720 is just a way to you know this is kind of our 2627 03:17:24,239 --> 03:17:32,960 first tangible project moving forward at the airport so there is increased risk 2628 03:17:29,760 --> 03:17:36,720 on the developer in in taking that first step 2629 03:17:34,720 --> 03:17:39,520 we have a number of other things in process that we're excited about we'll 2630 03:17:38,640 --> 03:17:44,239 be coming forward soon 2631 03:17:41,359 --> 03:17:48,399 um but anyway that's the the way that we had structured this deal that showed 2632 03:17:46,000 --> 03:17:50,880 some commitment from mr patel and then the city 2633 03:17:49,760 --> 03:17:55,200 will be installing infrastructure 2634 03:17:53,279 --> 03:18:00,399 essentially to the site as we have intended with the other 2635 03:17:58,160 --> 03:18:05,359 developer parcels there on in the whole area so 2636 03:18:03,520 --> 03:18:10,960 i guess with that i'll just try to address any questions that the council 2637 03:18:07,680 --> 03:18:16,640 has and then i know mr patel is is here on zoom so he may want to make some some 2638 03:18:13,439 --> 03:18:16,640 comments to the council as well 2639 03:18:18,800 --> 03:18:23,640 david mr 2640 03:18:32,239 --> 03:18:36,880 you might zoom 2641 03:18:44,399 --> 03:18:52,720 do we have any public comments on this item madam clerk 2642 03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:54,800 go ahead mr patel if you'd like to make some comments 2643 03:18:54,080 --> 03:18:59,600 uh thank you now uh good afternoon good 2644 03:18:56,960 --> 03:19:04,000 evening mr mayor uh council members uh chief 2645 03:19:02,080 --> 03:19:07,200 gentlemen it's been a pleasure working with 2646 03:19:05,439 --> 03:19:12,080 alan and the rest of the team over the last few months uh just to let you know 2647 03:19:10,000 --> 03:19:15,439 that marriott committee has approved the site for fairfield and so this is part 2648 03:19:13,920 --> 03:19:18,239 of the marriott product and 2649 03:19:16,960 --> 03:19:22,960 you know we're looking forward to developing and uh building that uh 2650 03:19:20,560 --> 03:19:26,560 relationship with the city for a long time here and uh i had multiple 2651 03:19:25,359 --> 03:19:30,239 conversations with the different individuals including uh rachel and mark 2652 03:19:29,359 --> 03:19:36,080 king uh who's also working with the financing 2653 03:19:33,520 --> 03:19:40,399 and then also construction i've been working with the bridges construction so 2654 03:19:38,239 --> 03:19:44,960 most of the individuals i've been working with this all local so i intend 2655 03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:48,640 to utilize most of the local trade i hear local individuals and 2656 03:19:47,840 --> 03:19:52,880 uh trying to 2657 03:19:49,920 --> 03:19:52,880 support the community 2658 03:19:53,520 --> 03:20:01,920 thank you uh do we have any other comments from the public 2659 03:19:57,279 --> 03:20:05,920 i received two emailed comments mr mayor which i can read out loud if you wish 2660 03:20:03,840 --> 03:20:09,600 please do the first is from sarah mcnabb who 2661 03:20:08,479 --> 03:20:13,439 states i've been living in this county all my 2662 03:20:11,439 --> 03:20:17,680 life and since the fires have started there has been a major issue with 2663 03:20:15,520 --> 03:20:21,840 housing i've been looking for a three-bedroom house apartment for about 2664 03:20:20,080 --> 03:20:25,439 four years seeing as i have three children 2665 03:20:22,960 --> 03:20:28,560 ten-year-old boy and two girls thirteen four 2666 03:20:26,239 --> 03:20:32,560 and i've been stuck in a two bedroom in the clear lake apartments for 14 years 2667 03:20:30,720 --> 03:20:37,439 which is falling apart i can't find anything under 1800 and 2668 03:20:34,880 --> 03:20:41,200 more and more people keep moving here so as a long time resident i don't think we 2669 03:20:39,279 --> 03:20:46,560 need another hotel that's going to turn into a drug addict filled flop hotel 2670 03:20:44,720 --> 03:20:51,439 we need more housing like apartments nice ones or condos something 2671 03:20:49,680 --> 03:20:56,319 there are a lot of family that are struggling are 2672 03:20:53,359 --> 03:20:59,760 homeless because the lack of housing think about the community for once and 2673 03:20:58,399 --> 03:21:04,319 not tourists because we get those anyway 2674 03:21:02,239 --> 03:21:08,960 this town has turned into a miniature oakland or even worse detroit sorry for 2675 03:21:06,800 --> 03:21:14,880 being so blunt but it is the reality for the low income and the sad minimum wage 2676 03:21:11,760 --> 03:21:21,600 pay we get around here the second is from wyatt harris 2677 03:21:17,439 --> 03:21:25,840 who states isn't 305 000 low for a 2.5 acre commercial property especially when 2678 03:21:24,000 --> 03:21:29,680 the city will probably spend more money on the promised 2679 03:21:27,520 --> 03:21:34,880 new utilities infrastructure and roads to the site why isn't purchasing this 2680 03:21:32,560 --> 03:21:38,479 property open to the public and that concludes the emailed comments 2681 03:21:36,640 --> 03:21:43,120 that i've received and i don't see that there are any hands raised on zoom 2682 03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:48,160 all right we'll bring it back to the council do you have any more 2683 03:21:45,040 --> 03:21:48,160 discussion at the council 2684 03:21:50,800 --> 03:21:56,000 bought this property am i not correct it's been for sale for it's been as long 2685 03:21:54,560 --> 03:22:01,120 as i can remember way too long um there is one point 2686 03:21:58,399 --> 03:22:07,200 though that i forgot to mention that um so 2687 03:22:02,160 --> 03:22:12,720 the existing parcel is um 200 feet wide the 2688 03:22:08,000 --> 03:22:12,720 fairfield plan requires 240 foot 2689 03:22:13,120 --> 03:22:19,279 site so there's some paper roads on both 2690 03:22:16,479 --> 03:22:24,239 sides of that parcel so the agreement envisions that we will 2691 03:22:21,760 --> 03:22:27,760 abandon the right-of-way and on one side 2692 03:22:26,080 --> 03:22:32,479 some of it will go to other city parcels some will go to 2693 03:22:30,399 --> 03:22:36,319 this property he's agreed to go ahead and enter into 2694 03:22:34,640 --> 03:22:40,000 the agreement with us while we're undertaking that but our city engineers 2695 03:22:38,399 --> 03:22:43,439 already been working on that process and there'll be a public hearing and whatnot 2696 03:22:41,520 --> 03:22:47,680 that would would come back and finalize that road abandonment so i just want to 2697 03:22:45,680 --> 03:22:50,720 make sure the council knew about that all right 2698 03:22:49,279 --> 03:22:56,880 okay one more okay so this is for the gentleman that 2699 03:22:52,800 --> 03:23:01,920 was on his comment um many cities give property for development it's very 2700 03:22:59,439 --> 03:23:07,200 common and put the infrastructure in and everything when it was going to provide 2701 03:23:04,160 --> 03:23:11,680 taxes and jobs and and bring in people especially hotels so 2702 03:23:09,600 --> 03:23:15,359 years ago i said give the property to anybody that will develop and give us 2703 03:23:13,279 --> 03:23:20,160 jobs and bring in you know some some money to our city so that we can develop 2704 03:23:17,200 --> 03:23:23,680 our parks and stuff like that um this this person's taking a big chance on the 2705 03:23:22,640 --> 03:23:27,760 property uh it may you know it's been sitting 2706 03:23:25,520 --> 03:23:32,960 there for years and it may end up being a failure for him so we have to you know 2707 03:23:31,359 --> 03:23:37,359 take the chance too but we want to develop that and this is the first step 2708 03:23:34,720 --> 03:23:41,439 of as far as i can see is really getting interest in developing when one person 2709 03:23:39,359 --> 03:23:44,960 starts then other other entities start following in 2710 03:23:43,680 --> 03:23:48,239 because they see something's going to happen so i really do believe 2711 03:23:47,439 --> 03:23:52,319 if i didn't think it was going to benefit our community i would not 2712 03:23:50,080 --> 03:23:56,479 approve this but i i think this is a good way to get that property started 2713 03:23:54,080 --> 03:23:56,479 developed 2714 03:23:56,880 --> 03:24:05,680 okay thank you councilman cramer i completely concur with what councilwoman 2715 03:24:02,560 --> 03:24:10,399 overton just said i i was going to say it myself she lead me to it 2716 03:24:08,319 --> 03:24:15,040 um if you're ready to entertain a motion i'm ready to make one i want to see if 2717 03:24:12,399 --> 03:24:18,960 mr claffy has any comments well i i concur as well and i will say i love the 2718 03:24:16,960 --> 03:24:24,160 way the deal structured so great job to the city staff i'm looking forward to 2719 03:24:20,880 --> 03:24:30,560 seeing this come to fruition all right very good um 2720 03:24:27,359 --> 03:24:30,560 can i have a motion 2721 03:24:30,880 --> 03:24:37,840 mr mayor i'd like to move that we council authorizes the city manager to 2722 03:24:36,000 --> 03:24:44,319 execute the purchase and sale agreement with mli associates llc 2723 03:24:40,960 --> 03:24:47,840 for sale of property at 6356 armejo 2724 03:24:45,600 --> 03:24:52,319 avenue in clear lake here we have a motion by councilman cramer 2725 03:24:50,399 --> 03:24:56,880 and we have a second by councilwoman overton 2726 03:24:53,600 --> 03:24:56,880 all in favor say aye 2727 03:24:57,760 --> 03:25:02,080 all right we'll move to item number 19. 2728 03:25:06,479 --> 03:25:15,120 i guess this is mr dave sports item mr schwartz is going to start and then 2729 03:25:12,880 --> 03:25:19,840 i'll wrap it up yeah good evening mayor members of the 2730 03:25:16,479 --> 03:25:23,120 council with great pleasure i get to have another measure v project as 2731 03:25:21,680 --> 03:25:29,120 scheduled on a schedule we provided and have been 2732 03:25:25,279 --> 03:25:33,200 working off of for about three years now this measure v project 2733 03:25:31,040 --> 03:25:37,760 consists of streets of what we call elevated north 2734 03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:42,160 and alaba south howard gulf 2735 03:25:39,040 --> 03:25:46,560 mullin and acacia what you see before you has been broken 2736 03:25:44,319 --> 03:25:50,800 out because into a couple of bit additive alternates 2737 03:25:48,560 --> 03:25:54,399 and logistically the reason was which allen will cover is 2738 03:25:52,239 --> 03:25:58,880 you know not knowing where the measure v funds are going to come in at so we what 2739 03:25:56,640 --> 03:26:03,680 we did is we created a base bid project of what we were confident 2740 03:26:01,279 --> 03:26:07,600 that we'd have funding for and then we broke the other streets out 2741 03:26:05,760 --> 03:26:10,640 as bit out of alternates and that was just for financing purposes now i want 2742 03:26:09,359 --> 03:26:16,000 to cover that these uh roads uh are obviously in 2743 03:26:13,040 --> 03:26:19,840 pretty poor shape the uh construction includes a new asphalt 2744 03:26:18,479 --> 03:26:24,720 concrete where appropriate we'll put 2745 03:26:21,840 --> 03:26:30,880 rolled concrete curb and gutter and where appropriate we'll put ac dyke 2746 03:26:28,960 --> 03:26:34,720 it also includes a lot of storm drain improvements to take care of a lot of 2747 03:26:32,319 --> 03:26:39,439 the localized flooding in particular um if approved tonight 2748 03:26:37,200 --> 03:26:43,680 mullins is is gonna is a big one for storm drain a lot of storm drain pipe 2749 03:26:41,359 --> 03:26:46,720 and that the other ones are pretty minor and the other thing i'd like to bring 2750 03:26:44,960 --> 03:26:52,319 forth is that this product this measure v project was 2751 03:26:49,439 --> 03:26:52,319 a catalyst for 2752 03:26:52,560 --> 03:27:00,880 helping highlands water company move forward with the substantial 2753 03:26:56,800 --> 03:27:00,880 water line improvements in these areas 2754 03:27:00,960 --> 03:27:05,840 due to an ordinance that the city passed about a year and a half ago which said 2755 03:27:04,319 --> 03:27:09,120 if you have a leak in our street 2756 03:27:07,200 --> 03:27:13,439 you've got to pave the street they don't like that so 2757 03:27:11,120 --> 03:27:18,000 this prod that ordinance along with our projects now we're getting a lot of new 2758 03:27:15,359 --> 03:27:21,520 water lines water services and enhanced water service for that matter with fire 2759 03:27:19,680 --> 03:27:25,920 hydrants and stuff we'll be happy to entertain any questions about the 2760 03:27:23,439 --> 03:27:30,479 technical aspects of the project if we have any questions from so just to 2761 03:27:28,239 --> 03:27:34,080 clarify hyland's water will be replacing summer is in the process now replacing 2762 03:27:32,399 --> 03:27:37,840 water lines in those streets they're opening bids tomorrow 2763 03:27:36,479 --> 03:27:42,800 and that'll happen can happen quickly ahead of 2764 03:27:40,239 --> 03:27:45,600 in front of us yes great 2765 03:27:44,080 --> 03:27:49,840 just to follow up any other utilities that are would be impacted 2766 03:27:47,840 --> 03:27:52,720 by this project that would need to be updated 2767 03:27:50,960 --> 03:27:56,880 not to my knowledge we coordinated with special districts 2768 03:27:54,880 --> 03:28:01,359 you know we we send send our plans and specs now we have joint utility meetings 2769 03:27:58,960 --> 03:28:04,720 with uh all all parties involved and highlands was the one that thanks take 2770 03:28:03,120 --> 03:28:07,760 care of it all right uh 2771 03:28:05,680 --> 03:28:10,640 councilman claffy any comments uh no 2772 03:28:09,359 --> 03:28:13,520 all right so can i make some comments 2773 03:28:12,720 --> 03:28:15,840 so um 2774 03:28:15,920 --> 03:28:21,120 uh granite construction was low bidder um 2775 03:28:19,600 --> 03:28:25,359 and you know mr schwartz mentioned the additive 2776 03:28:23,040 --> 03:28:30,720 alternates so we don't have uh quite enough funding in 2777 03:28:28,560 --> 03:28:33,120 measure v to do the whole two million dollar 2778 03:28:31,680 --> 03:28:37,600 project and so there's really two options the 2779 03:28:35,840 --> 03:28:43,359 council could decide to just toward a smaller project 2780 03:28:40,319 --> 03:28:47,200 and use the funds that we have now what staff's actually recommending since 2781 03:28:45,279 --> 03:28:50,239 the project has all this has been designed 2782 03:28:48,479 --> 03:28:55,359 and it's ready to go that we go ahead and do an internal loan 2783 03:28:53,439 --> 03:28:59,600 from some of our other projects complete everything 2784 03:28:56,640 --> 03:29:03,279 this year and then um we will use measure v revenues from next 2785 03:29:02,319 --> 03:29:06,720 year in order to to pay that loan back to the 2786 03:29:05,840 --> 03:29:09,439 city and um 2787 03:29:09,600 --> 03:29:15,520 i guess we've changed the numbers a couple times um i i don't know if you 2788 03:29:13,760 --> 03:29:20,479 want to speak chief white you may you were working on them last i don't want 2789 03:29:16,960 --> 03:29:25,120 to misspeak but um what we're recommending is that we 2790 03:29:22,319 --> 03:29:29,520 go ahead and make a budget adjustment for the project amount and up to the 2791 03:29:27,600 --> 03:29:33,760 maximum 10 um change order amount so that all 2792 03:29:31,439 --> 03:29:38,960 that's covered and then of course if we don't need the money then then um 2793 03:29:37,200 --> 03:29:42,000 we won't spend it um do you want to address the numbers 2794 03:29:40,479 --> 03:29:47,040 real quick chief sure um so conservatively estimating the 2795 03:29:45,040 --> 03:29:52,479 loan could be up to 1.2 million the impact would be in fiscal year 2223 2796 03:29:50,319 --> 03:29:56,960 for measure v removing our estimated operating costs you would have about 2797 03:29:54,160 --> 03:30:00,720 between 400 to 450 000 for projects that year 2798 03:29:59,120 --> 03:30:04,560 one thing to mention is public works is doing a huge amount of projects so i 2799 03:30:02,720 --> 03:30:09,120 don't think there's going to be a lot of pushback to slow down a little bit then 2800 03:30:06,800 --> 03:30:12,479 and the reality is with the pace of work and everything else you probably 2801 03:30:10,640 --> 03:30:16,080 wouldn't otherwise know because projects are going to continue going on so i 2802 03:30:14,399 --> 03:30:20,319 think from a financial perspective if you choose to do the loan um it's a low 2803 03:30:18,319 --> 03:30:24,000 risk it's just basically pushing stuff ahead and we have um from a cash flow 2804 03:30:22,640 --> 03:30:26,160 perspective we're fortunate to have funding to be able to do this sort of 2805 03:30:25,439 --> 03:30:29,120 thing thank you 2806 03:30:27,279 --> 03:30:33,680 yeah and the the funding that we're recommending adjusting would be um 2807 03:30:31,600 --> 03:30:37,600 series a funding that in our recent budget we set aside for the highlands 2808 03:30:35,359 --> 03:30:41,520 park uh project which um you know we're hoping that we'll get 2809 03:30:39,920 --> 03:30:47,279 awarded the grant this year but construction isn't likely to happen um 2810 03:30:44,880 --> 03:30:50,319 within this fiscal year anyway so you know it shouldn't slow down anything 2811 03:30:48,960 --> 03:30:53,920 else and you know we'll still be able to get 2812 03:30:51,920 --> 03:30:57,279 some measure view projects done next year no doubt um there still will be 2813 03:30:55,840 --> 03:31:00,479 funding there you know we are 2814 03:30:58,800 --> 03:31:04,880 currently thinking about expanding the chip seal program to do maybe twice as 2815 03:31:02,640 --> 03:31:08,080 much or something as we did even this year 2816 03:31:06,000 --> 03:31:13,359 which is a low cost and so you know with the sports complex 2817 03:31:10,399 --> 03:31:18,720 infrastructure at the airport we have a second modoc project um 2818 03:31:16,160 --> 03:31:22,319 next year and then the house center south center drive and dam road 2819 03:31:20,319 --> 03:31:27,359 extension so there's still going to be a ton of projects happening next year even 2820 03:31:24,640 --> 03:31:31,279 if we kind of spend a little bit less of measure v dollars than we are this year 2821 03:31:31,359 --> 03:31:38,800 all right so and the and what you would be requesting for to move 2822 03:31:36,880 --> 03:31:42,479 funds from would be what's covered in item number 2823 03:31:40,479 --> 03:31:45,760 number 20. yeah that action would be the next item we just wanted to make sure 2824 03:31:44,239 --> 03:31:48,640 that if you decide that you want to 2825 03:31:47,040 --> 03:31:52,319 um not take that option just say award the 2826 03:31:50,720 --> 03:31:55,840 base bid that we kind of have this discussion all together 2827 03:31:56,560 --> 03:32:01,200 all right um 2828 03:31:58,720 --> 03:32:04,800 i have to open it to the public yes do you have any comments from the public on 2829 03:32:02,560 --> 03:32:04,800 this 2830 03:32:04,880 --> 03:32:11,920 there are no comments from the public from no hands raised on the zoom there's 2831 03:32:09,760 --> 03:32:16,479 no attendees we'll bring it back to the council uh mr claffey councilman claffy 2832 03:32:15,279 --> 03:32:19,600 any comments uh no like the plan 2833 03:32:18,319 --> 03:32:22,319 okay very good um 2834 03:32:20,479 --> 03:32:25,279 do i entertain a motion mr mayor i'd like to authorize a city manager to 2835 03:32:23,840 --> 03:32:30,479 enter under contract with granite construction for construction of the 2836 03:32:27,600 --> 03:32:33,920 2021 measure v pavement rehabilitate rehabilitation project base and the 2837 03:32:32,960 --> 03:32:37,600 additive alternatives for the total amount of 2 2838 03:32:36,560 --> 03:32:42,960 million 223 2839 03:32:39,720 --> 03:32:46,319 121 and 50 cents and authorize the city manager to approve up to 10 2840 03:32:44,800 --> 03:32:50,880 for additional unforeseen contract amendments no second that okay we have a 2841 03:32:48,800 --> 03:32:56,239 motion by vice mayor perdoc and second by councilman kramer all in favor all 2842 03:32:54,560 --> 03:33:00,920 right okay item number 2843 03:32:57,920 --> 03:33:00,920 20. 2844 03:33:05,279 --> 03:33:11,760 chief white this is thank you mayor um good evening again 2845 03:33:10,000 --> 03:33:17,760 this item is to accomplish two things it's the uh amendment to the 2021-22 2846 03:33:15,120 --> 03:33:24,239 budget uh the first item is basically to appropriate the unspent portion of the 2847 03:33:20,000 --> 03:33:28,080 caltrans local road safety plan uh grant and basically it's coming out of 2848 03:33:25,760 --> 03:33:33,040 existing funding so there's no negative impact to the budget 2849 03:33:30,880 --> 03:33:36,239 the second portion of it is to do what we just talked about and and just a 2850 03:33:34,880 --> 03:33:40,479 background on why there's a change in the um 2851 03:33:37,840 --> 03:33:44,479 the numbers is as you heard earlier with the audit we're still adjusting things 2852 03:33:42,640 --> 03:33:48,319 uh to figure out the amounts but as i mentioned to you 2853 03:33:45,760 --> 03:33:53,040 the loan could be up to 1.2 million roughly um between the two funds um but 2854 03:33:51,680 --> 03:33:57,120 i believe there's sufficient cash flow to cover doing that um and you have the 2855 03:33:55,359 --> 03:34:00,479 option well it sounds like from your prior vote that your intention is to to 2856 03:33:59,040 --> 03:34:05,120 go ahead and do that so i think we're safe to uh to let that happen we did 2857 03:34:03,040 --> 03:34:08,640 pass out we had to amend the the resolution that was included in the 2858 03:34:07,040 --> 03:34:11,120 agenda to make a correction on the movement of money it's more of an 2859 03:34:09,760 --> 03:34:15,760 accounting thing but that's been passed out to you i mean 2860 03:34:13,279 --> 03:34:18,880 just in the transparency it's basically just showing that there's a transfer out 2861 03:34:17,279 --> 03:34:24,080 from measure b of one point seven eight six five five one um and that that's 2862 03:34:21,200 --> 03:34:27,760 going to the capital projects fund uh as a transfer in and then basically on the 2863 03:34:26,080 --> 03:34:31,680 back end we'll do a loan for whatever amounts there once the dust settles on 2864 03:34:29,359 --> 03:34:34,560 what the actual fund balance is because we don't have a hard number on 2865 03:34:32,880 --> 03:34:39,760 that it's an estimate at this point based upon estimated tax revenues 2866 03:34:37,920 --> 03:34:43,760 all right we have any questions 2867 03:34:41,520 --> 03:34:49,279 for staff if not well the public hearing we have 2868 03:34:45,680 --> 03:34:49,279 any comments from the public 2869 03:34:50,720 --> 03:34:57,120 we we don't have any attendees on our zoom 2870 03:34:53,760 --> 03:35:00,640 meeting and i've not received any emails regarding this item 2871 03:34:58,720 --> 03:35:03,760 all right uh 2872 03:35:02,399 --> 03:35:08,800 any more comments from the council we'll bring it back to the council if not i'd 2873 03:35:05,520 --> 03:35:12,160 entertain a motion mr mayor i'd like to move that 2874 03:35:12,319 --> 03:35:21,239 we approve resolution number 2021-37 adoption of the first amendment to the 2875 03:35:18,720 --> 03:35:26,479 fiscal year 21 2021-22 budget resolution number 2876 03:35:24,760 --> 03:35:31,120 2021-33 appropriating revenue from the caltrans 2877 03:35:28,479 --> 03:35:36,640 local roadway safety plan grant and the 2021 measure v projects 2878 03:35:34,399 --> 03:35:41,920 second we have a motion by councilman cramer in a second by vice mayor perdoc 2879 03:35:39,359 --> 03:35:49,800 all in favor sorry hi hi all right we'll move on to our next item 2880 03:35:45,359 --> 03:35:49,800 which is item number 21. 2881 03:35:50,479 --> 03:35:59,279 me too all right uh item 21. mr allen flora 2882 03:35:56,960 --> 03:36:04,080 yes mr mayor members of the council um so as you know we've been negotiating 2883 03:36:01,200 --> 03:36:06,960 with all of these bargaining groups um we've reached tentative agreements with 2884 03:36:05,520 --> 03:36:11,120 all of them that we feel is both physically responsible and respects the 2885 03:36:09,840 --> 03:36:14,560 heart and dedicated work of our employees 2886 03:36:12,640 --> 03:36:19,359 the first one before you is the clinic miscellaneous employees association 2887 03:36:16,960 --> 03:36:22,640 so the key deal points are a one year agreement with a three percent cost of 2888 03:36:20,880 --> 03:36:25,920 living adjustment a two thousand dollar one-time payment 2889 03:36:24,399 --> 03:36:30,160 and recognition of their hard work and dedication to the city 2890 03:36:28,080 --> 03:36:34,880 additional one percent salary adjustment in lieu of various other adjustments 2891 03:36:32,239 --> 03:36:39,520 within the mou removing or reducing other compensation 2892 03:36:37,439 --> 03:36:43,840 there is language in all these agreements which is an agreement to meet 2893 03:36:41,120 --> 03:36:48,560 and confer regarding additional compensation that can be converted into 2894 03:36:45,680 --> 03:36:51,840 base pay there's also some adjustments in this one related to uniform 2895 03:36:50,399 --> 03:36:55,680 regulations the final thing that i wanted to point 2896 03:36:53,359 --> 03:36:58,880 out is i you should have a hard copy there was 2897 03:36:56,560 --> 03:37:04,880 one section under sick leave that was inadvertently deleted 2898 03:37:00,960 --> 03:37:08,880 and so that reflects that section 9.1 being 2899 03:37:06,239 --> 03:37:13,279 back remaining in the in the agreement and the previous section 9.2 is removed 2900 03:37:11,680 --> 03:37:16,960 and that's what's related to the 1 salary adjustment so i would be happy to 2901 03:37:15,359 --> 03:37:20,800 address any questions that you may have okay we have any question for staff 2902 03:37:23,279 --> 03:37:29,439 9.1 remains 9.2 is removed yes okay 2903 03:37:27,920 --> 03:37:34,880 no question from staff we hope the public hearing any 2904 03:37:31,120 --> 03:37:34,880 public comment on this item adam clark 2905 03:37:35,040 --> 03:37:41,200 there are no hands raised in the zoom or attendees and i've not received any 2906 03:37:39,359 --> 03:37:45,600 emailed comments okay we'll bring it back to the council any more discussions 2907 03:37:43,359 --> 03:37:49,439 if not i entertain a motion mayor i'd like to 2908 03:37:47,439 --> 03:37:53,359 present the adoption adopt the memorandum of understanding between the 2909 03:37:51,040 --> 03:37:57,520 city of clear lake and the city uh miscellaneous employee association and 2910 03:37:55,200 --> 03:38:02,000 authorize the city manager to say okay we have a motion by councilwoman overton 2911 03:38:00,479 --> 03:38:05,200 you have a second second we have a section of advice may 2912 03:38:03,840 --> 03:38:08,560 have product all in favor all right 2913 03:38:08,800 --> 03:38:14,640 all right how about a small little break yeah five minute break 2914 03:38:14,800 --> 03:38:21,080 five minute break make it quick 2915 03:38:26,800 --> 03:38:29,800 huh 2916 03:42:35,760 --> 03:42:43,200 all right we go back in session here we go to 2917 03:42:40,960 --> 03:42:46,479 item number 22 consideration of a memorandum of 2918 03:42:44,720 --> 03:42:49,920 understanding between the city of clear lake and 2919 03:42:48,399 --> 03:42:52,600 the clear lake police officers association 2920 03:42:51,520 --> 03:42:58,160 period 2021 to 2022. 2921 03:42:56,720 --> 03:43:02,239 thank you mister yes um so the key points on this 2922 03:43:00,399 --> 03:43:05,680 agreement a one-year agreement with three percent cost of living adjustment 2923 03:43:04,399 --> 03:43:10,960 1500 1500 one-time payment in recognition of 2924 03:43:09,279 --> 03:43:15,920 employees hard work and dedication to the city a six percent salary adjustment 2925 03:43:13,760 --> 03:43:19,520 in lieu of various um adjustments to the mou removing or reducing other 2926 03:43:17,600 --> 03:43:22,720 compensation and then again the agreement to meet and confer regarding 2927 03:43:21,279 --> 03:43:25,760 additional compensation that can be converted 2928 03:43:23,760 --> 03:43:29,040 into base pay with that i'll try to address any 2929 03:43:27,120 --> 03:43:33,120 questions the council has okay we have any questions from council no questions 2930 03:43:31,760 --> 03:43:37,359 no questions no questions councilman claffy any 2931 03:43:35,199 --> 03:43:43,840 comments no questions okay very good uh open to the public any 2932 03:43:40,880 --> 03:43:43,840 comments from the public 2933 03:43:44,239 --> 03:43:50,399 there are no attendees on the zoom and i have not received any email comments 2934 03:43:49,120 --> 03:43:53,120 all right we'll bring it back to the council 2935 03:43:51,439 --> 03:43:57,199 any more discussion while i entertain a motion 2936 03:43:54,080 --> 03:44:00,720 mr mayor like to make motion to adopt memorandum of understanding between the 2937 03:43:59,040 --> 03:44:05,760 city of clear lake and the clear lake police officers association 2938 03:44:02,800 --> 03:44:09,680 and authorizes city manager to sign it second we have a motion by councilman 2939 03:44:07,680 --> 03:44:17,760 cramer and the second by vice mayor burdock all in favor say aye aye aye 2940 03:44:13,120 --> 03:44:21,439 okay move right along to item number 23. mr allen florida 2941 03:44:19,439 --> 03:44:25,199 yes mr mayor so this agreement is with the clear lake middle management 2942 03:44:23,199 --> 03:44:28,640 association so the key deal points in this case a 2943 03:44:27,279 --> 03:44:31,760 two-year agreement with the three percent cost of living adjustment each 2944 03:44:30,800 --> 03:44:35,439 year fifteen hundred dollar one-time payment 2945 03:44:33,680 --> 03:44:40,000 recognition of the employee's hard work and dedication to the city and a nine 2946 03:44:37,600 --> 03:44:44,640 percent salary adjustment in lieu of various other adjustments within the mou 2947 03:44:42,000 --> 03:44:48,640 removing or reducing other compensation and then finally the agreement to me and 2948 03:44:46,560 --> 03:44:52,319 confer regarding additional compensation that can be converted to base pay 2949 03:44:50,880 --> 03:44:56,000 over the next year with that i'll address any questions that counts a lot 2950 03:44:53,840 --> 03:45:01,760 right any questions from staff if not go ahead so so these uh 2951 03:44:59,760 --> 03:45:04,640 the salary adjustments are your that's where you're taking away from some 2952 03:45:03,199 --> 03:45:09,840 things and just adding it into their base pay am i correct the for the in 2953 03:45:07,120 --> 03:45:12,640 this case yeah so the the cost of living adjustment to three percent is all 2954 03:45:11,439 --> 03:45:19,600 additional um the nine percent in this case is 2955 03:45:16,000 --> 03:45:25,680 taking um incentives that the employees already receive and taking 2956 03:45:22,000 --> 03:45:29,040 that funding and converting it into base all pay thank you 2957 03:45:26,880 --> 03:45:33,439 all right uh councilman you have any questions no questions 2958 03:45:31,120 --> 03:45:37,840 all right welcome to the public any comments from the public madam club 2959 03:45:35,680 --> 03:45:41,680 there are no attendees on the zoom and i've not received any emailed comments 2960 03:45:39,680 --> 03:45:46,239 on this item okay we'll bring it back to the council any more questions if not i 2961 03:45:43,920 --> 03:45:50,160 have obtained a motion mr mayor i'd like to make a motion to a 2962 03:45:48,560 --> 03:45:54,479 dog memorandum of understanding between the city of clearly and the clear lake 2963 03:45:52,160 --> 03:45:59,120 middle management association authorizes city manager to sign 2964 03:45:56,800 --> 03:46:04,880 we have a motion by vice mayor perdoc in a second by councilwoman overton all in 2965 03:46:01,359 --> 03:46:04,880 favor say aye aye aye 2966 03:46:05,040 --> 03:46:12,319 we're moving on to number 24. mr alan flora 2967 03:46:10,239 --> 03:46:16,960 yes mr mayor members of the council so the um employees of the city that are 2968 03:46:14,720 --> 03:46:21,920 unrepresented and not in one of the other three groups 2969 03:46:18,960 --> 03:46:27,840 most of the benefits are outlined by the city's management benefit plan 2970 03:46:25,199 --> 03:46:30,399 in that plan it states that management employees 2971 03:46:30,800 --> 03:46:36,800 shall receive a salary adjustment each july 1st 2972 03:46:34,560 --> 03:46:41,760 based on the march to march all urban cities consumer price index 2973 03:46:40,319 --> 03:46:45,600 based on the labor market and then the financial condition of the city 2974 03:46:44,160 --> 03:46:49,680 and so so march 2020 to march 21 2975 03:46:48,479 --> 03:46:54,640 cpi was 2.6 2976 03:46:52,000 --> 03:47:01,760 um and so that's what we're recommending uh the council approve for um 2977 03:46:59,120 --> 03:47:04,960 those employees and i just wanted to to point out i'm sure most of you are 2978 03:47:03,359 --> 03:47:09,680 watching the economic situation and 2979 03:47:07,439 --> 03:47:16,160 inflation is is really ramping up just as a little bit of a perspective 2980 03:47:13,120 --> 03:47:20,640 april that april year over year was 4.9 percent 2981 03:47:17,359 --> 03:47:24,640 may was five percent and um i'm not sure if i recall the the june numbers but i 2982 03:47:22,640 --> 03:47:27,840 think they're even higher yet than than five percent so 2983 03:47:26,160 --> 03:47:31,120 anyway um with that i'll try to address any questions counselor you have any 2984 03:47:29,439 --> 03:47:35,279 questions from staff no 2985 03:47:32,399 --> 03:47:38,880 councilman clappy anything no questions all right i'll open the public hearing 2986 03:47:37,840 --> 03:47:43,199 any comments from the public madam clerk 2987 03:47:41,439 --> 03:47:47,359 there are no comments from the public and i've not received any email comments 2988 03:47:45,520 --> 03:47:50,640 okay we'll bring it back to the council if there's no further questions i'd 2989 03:47:49,120 --> 03:47:54,319 entertain a motion mayor i'd like to make the motion to 2990 03:47:52,000 --> 03:47:57,040 adopt cpi adjustments for the management employees for the management benefit 2991 03:47:56,160 --> 03:48:00,640 plan second okay we have a motion by 2992 03:47:58,560 --> 03:48:07,359 councilwoman overton and the second by council man cramer 2993 03:48:03,279 --> 03:48:10,319 um all in favor say aye aye moving right along here 2994 03:48:12,160 --> 03:48:18,720 actually i want to make one little comment 2995 03:48:14,720 --> 03:48:23,199 at this point we just adopted four 2996 03:48:20,800 --> 03:48:26,840 memorandums of understanding and and having to do with the salaries 2997 03:48:25,120 --> 03:48:30,319 of our our 2998 03:48:28,560 --> 03:48:34,319 employees of the city and i'm very proud that uh we're the 2999 03:48:32,880 --> 03:48:37,279 highest payer in the county 3000 03:48:35,600 --> 03:48:40,160 that's been my goal and we accomplished that so thank you very 3001 03:48:38,880 --> 03:48:47,040 much all right designation item number 25 3002 03:48:44,160 --> 03:48:47,040 madam clerk 3003 03:48:47,199 --> 03:48:53,439 honorable mayor and council members the league of california city's annual 3004 03:48:51,439 --> 03:48:58,399 conference this year is scheduled for september 22nd through the 24th and the 3005 03:48:56,640 --> 03:49:02,080 conference is planning to be held in person in 3006 03:49:00,560 --> 03:49:05,439 sacramento and at this meeting the league 3007 03:49:03,439 --> 03:49:11,120 membership considers and takes action on resolutions that establish league policy 3008 03:49:09,120 --> 03:49:15,920 in order to vote at the annual business meeting each year the city council must 3009 03:49:13,279 --> 03:49:21,120 designate a voting delegate and can appoint then up to two alternates in 3010 03:49:18,800 --> 03:49:25,520 addition to that delegate all council members are planning to attend 3011 03:49:23,520 --> 03:49:29,920 the uh the conference and although we've not received 3012 03:49:27,680 --> 03:49:35,199 information on the issues coming up for a vote yet it is appropriate for the 3013 03:49:33,040 --> 03:49:41,439 council to designate a voting delegate and up to two alternates at this time 3014 03:49:38,800 --> 03:49:43,359 any comments or any ideas um 3015 03:49:42,640 --> 03:49:47,920 i if i want to address something i think 3016 03:49:45,680 --> 03:49:52,880 uh councilwoman overton has been a long time representative so i think 3017 03:49:50,720 --> 03:49:56,080 i think she would be as the voting delegate 3018 03:49:53,920 --> 03:49:59,600 and is there anybody that uh wants to be an 3019 03:49:57,120 --> 03:49:59,600 alternate 3020 03:49:59,840 --> 03:50:06,600 and i'm willing to continue in that please do so council woman overton 3021 03:50:07,520 --> 03:50:13,120 all right everybody to go to the you know and i 3022 03:50:10,720 --> 03:50:16,960 plan on attending and i was the uh senator before 3023 03:50:14,640 --> 03:50:21,040 councilman because i went over to so all right it's good to see everybody there 3024 03:50:18,720 --> 03:50:24,479 going there so that's kind of cool all right 3025 03:50:22,399 --> 03:50:27,600 i guess we have to open this to a public hearing 3026 03:50:25,920 --> 03:50:30,239 do we have any comments from the public on this item 3027 03:50:30,880 --> 03:50:36,239 there are no public comments on this item and i've not received any emailed 3028 03:50:34,479 --> 03:50:41,600 comments all right we'll bring them back to the council so 3029 03:50:37,760 --> 03:50:41,600 can i have a recommendation 3030 03:50:42,080 --> 03:50:49,199 mr mr mayor i would recommend councilwoman overton as our voting 3031 03:50:47,279 --> 03:50:54,000 member and council member perdoc and kramer as our alternates 3032 03:50:52,080 --> 03:50:57,920 all right can we have a second on that second all right we have a motion by 3033 03:50:56,239 --> 03:51:02,640 councilman claffy and a second vice mayor perdoc all in favor say aye all 3034 03:51:01,520 --> 03:51:05,760 right all right 3035 03:51:04,080 --> 03:51:11,279 mr mayor if i could interrupt really quick so on the poa agreement that you 3036 03:51:08,399 --> 03:51:15,520 just approved um chief white just noticed in his thoroughness that um 3037 03:51:14,399 --> 03:51:20,479 the for some reason the detective is missing 3038 03:51:17,840 --> 03:51:24,319 from the list of special assignments um and so 3039 03:51:22,160 --> 03:51:29,120 uh the city attorney said that um if you're all okay with making a note of 3040 03:51:26,720 --> 03:51:32,560 adding that back in that's okay if you want to have some further discussion 3041 03:51:31,040 --> 03:51:36,239 about whether to do that or not then we would have to take an action to 3042 03:51:33,760 --> 03:51:38,399 reconsider the item but so how can we do that 3043 03:51:39,920 --> 03:51:45,040 i based on if you're 3044 03:51:42,960 --> 03:51:48,640 in concurrence of what the city manager said and were that was fine and that'd 3045 03:51:47,279 --> 03:51:52,960 be part of your motion then we don't need to reconsider it if you don't want 3046 03:51:50,880 --> 03:51:57,120 that then we should probably vote again to reconsider and pull it out 3047 03:51:55,840 --> 03:52:01,359 of it mr mayor it was my understanding that 3048 03:51:58,720 --> 03:52:05,359 that was already in so was it mine yeah it's just a clerical error right i mean 3049 03:52:03,040 --> 03:52:12,479 it's it's an assignment that we've had yeah so you're okay with that i am 3050 03:52:08,720 --> 03:52:16,720 okay very good so you have your okay we'll go to city manager and 3051 03:52:14,000 --> 03:52:16,720 council report 3052 03:52:16,880 --> 03:52:27,680 okay um i have have a few items so um we received uh just over 1.8 million in 3053 03:52:25,439 --> 03:52:31,840 federal funding today through the our program which we'll be using for 3054 03:52:29,359 --> 03:52:35,520 infrastructure so glad to see that come in and 3055 03:52:33,600 --> 03:52:40,960 the other half of that funding we should receive and i believe may of next year 3056 03:52:38,000 --> 03:52:45,680 so we'll still be in this fiscal year okay right 3057 03:52:42,399 --> 03:52:51,359 well it's the american rescue um i forget exactly the plan act or 3058 03:52:48,960 --> 03:52:51,359 something 3059 03:52:52,399 --> 03:53:01,520 so um we had a bit opening for the sulfur fire road rehabilitation project 3060 03:52:57,199 --> 03:53:05,840 today bids came in um unexpectedly low um 3061 03:53:02,640 --> 03:53:09,279 the low bid being um just over 6.4 million um 3062 03:53:07,680 --> 03:53:13,600 so that's great uh granite 3063 03:53:11,520 --> 03:53:16,880 construction was the low bidder who was also the 3064 03:53:15,680 --> 03:53:21,359 contractor that i'll be doing in the measure v project so i think the timing 3065 03:53:19,680 --> 03:53:23,840 for all those projects is going to work out great 3066 03:53:24,160 --> 03:53:29,600 now the problem we have is we just have to um 3067 03:53:27,760 --> 03:53:34,000 figure out some way to spend an additional 5 million because 3068 03:53:31,920 --> 03:53:38,000 that's not a problem the the bids were much much lower than 3069 03:53:35,920 --> 03:53:42,640 we expected and so good problem 3070 03:53:39,600 --> 03:53:42,640 yeah we'll take it 3071 03:53:44,800 --> 03:53:51,199 well there's a lot of limits on the use of those funds in that program there has 3072 03:53:48,880 --> 03:53:54,319 to be a tie back to the 2017 disaster and whatnot so 3073 03:53:52,800 --> 03:53:58,800 we've been kicking around a few ideas left to consult with hcd obviously we 3074 03:53:56,479 --> 03:54:02,319 don't want to do anything that delays the current project we have in front of 3075 03:54:00,640 --> 03:54:06,479 us but i'm sure we'll figure out some way 3076 03:54:04,560 --> 03:54:09,120 um we definitely don't want to let the money go back 3077 03:54:10,000 --> 03:54:18,479 um so uh we are in the process of listing um 3078 03:54:15,279 --> 03:54:22,800 23 properties in the city that are owned and available for 3079 03:54:20,080 --> 03:54:26,479 low density residential development to get the word out on those we're also 3080 03:54:24,960 --> 03:54:30,720 finally really rolling out the homestead program 3081 03:54:28,640 --> 03:54:34,479 and so those properties will be listed with a price if someone comes forward 3082 03:54:32,720 --> 03:54:40,239 through the homestead program and likes that property 3083 03:54:36,479 --> 03:54:43,040 we will still give it to them if they qualify 3084 03:54:43,199 --> 03:54:48,239 it's been a little while since we talked about cannabis permits but as you know 3085 03:54:46,560 --> 03:54:53,040 there were a number of the previously issued permits that 3086 03:54:50,560 --> 03:54:58,399 there's not much activity we issued letters to all of the permit 3087 03:54:55,920 --> 03:55:02,720 holders i believe it was in march and informed them that if they did not take 3088 03:55:01,040 --> 03:55:07,439 steps to activate their permit and get their 3089 03:55:05,120 --> 03:55:11,279 business going by july 1st that they would be revoked 3090 03:55:09,279 --> 03:55:15,199 it looks like we're doing some final final checking 3091 03:55:13,279 --> 03:55:19,920 but it looks like that there's gonna be five of the permits that we're gonna go 3092 03:55:17,120 --> 03:55:24,000 ahead and revoke for inactivity um 3093 03:55:21,120 --> 03:55:24,000 i did want to 3094 03:55:24,319 --> 03:55:30,560 i think most of you are aware but congratulate chief white for his 3095 03:55:27,840 --> 03:55:35,520 appointment to the state 911 committee so it's great to have him representing 3096 03:55:33,760 --> 03:55:38,800 clear lake and other rural communities i'm sure he's going to be a big asset 3097 03:55:39,040 --> 03:55:45,199 sort of in random order here but you know 3098 03:55:42,560 --> 03:55:49,760 some pretty positive news um preliminary returns from calpers over the last year 3099 03:55:48,239 --> 03:55:54,160 uh brought their um returns in at 21.3 3100 03:55:52,720 --> 03:56:00,399 which obviously is higher than the assumptions 3101 03:55:56,160 --> 03:56:06,640 the preliminary returns for calpers fund it was 21.3 percent of course which 3102 03:56:03,600 --> 03:56:10,000 is much above the the 7 assumed rate of return 3103 03:56:08,000 --> 03:56:16,000 in fact it was so large it's going to trigger some additional changes 3104 03:56:13,520 --> 03:56:21,439 which is going to bless you 3105 03:56:17,120 --> 03:56:25,680 actually reduce the discount rate from 7 percent down to 6.8 percent in the 3106 03:56:23,520 --> 03:56:29,520 future which is going to 3107 03:56:27,120 --> 03:56:34,160 drive up our our costs uh because of that but 3108 03:56:32,479 --> 03:56:38,000 anyway it's good last year they didn't meet the um assumed rate i don't 3109 03:56:36,560 --> 03:56:42,640 remember what the number was i think it was six something 3110 03:56:39,600 --> 03:56:48,479 um and but you know and that that return will be smoothed over five year period 3111 03:56:45,279 --> 03:56:52,479 but anyway um overall um good to see that um we're continuing to 3112 03:56:50,800 --> 03:56:56,720 monitor the boat ramps at redbud park we have a 3113 03:56:54,800 --> 03:57:00,239 gauge out there we have additional marking to show the end of the concrete 3114 03:56:58,640 --> 03:57:03,520 ramps and signage letting folks know that it 3115 03:57:02,000 --> 03:57:09,680 could be dangerous to launch and they're doing so at their 3116 03:57:04,960 --> 03:57:14,960 own risk but it is continuing to be used the county is uh reporting that they're 3117 03:57:12,479 --> 03:57:19,279 expecting the lake level to drop between two and two and a half feet from where 3118 03:57:16,960 --> 03:57:26,000 we are now before the end of the summer so it's uh very possible that um 3119 03:57:23,680 --> 03:57:31,840 some or all of the ramps at redwater park will will not be usable um just for 3120 03:57:29,199 --> 03:57:35,439 a little bit of context we have there's the ramps that kind of i guess probably 3121 03:57:33,760 --> 03:57:38,399 depending on when they are constructed or a little bit different 3122 03:57:37,199 --> 03:57:43,040 length and 3123 03:57:40,160 --> 03:57:48,720 so we're in pretty good shape similar to some of the ramps at library park in 3124 03:57:45,359 --> 03:57:54,000 lakeport and i think lakeside park um over by kelseyville but there is one 3125 03:57:51,199 --> 03:57:58,479 of the boat ramps at library park in lake port that is a couple of feet 3126 03:57:56,239 --> 03:58:01,520 longer than what we have so it's possible that they 3127 03:58:00,239 --> 03:58:04,319 will be the only 3128 03:58:02,479 --> 03:58:10,080 great access i mean and there's still going to be issues with that 3129 03:58:05,840 --> 03:58:10,080 can we pour something yeah yeah 3130 03:58:10,319 --> 03:58:17,840 serious question yes have you heard of the army corps of 3131 03:58:14,800 --> 03:58:17,840 engineers before 3132 03:58:18,800 --> 03:58:27,120 well you can pour concrete in water yeah it takes a lot of permits and 3133 03:58:23,439 --> 03:58:27,120 multiple years to do so so 3134 03:58:27,520 --> 03:58:36,640 i wanted to mention that the we've been asked by the adventist 3135 03:58:33,920 --> 03:58:41,279 health and hope center to be the grant recipient for a home key 3136 03:58:39,520 --> 03:58:46,319 grant for some additional improvements at the hope center 3137 03:58:43,920 --> 03:58:50,640 they initially received funding for that project with the county being the grant 3138 03:58:49,120 --> 03:58:54,880 recipient for whatever reason 3139 03:58:52,080 --> 03:59:00,160 they apparently have decided not to 3140 03:58:56,880 --> 03:59:04,720 participate in that role anymore and so they asked us if we would step in and do 3141 03:59:02,800 --> 03:59:09,279 that and so we said you know of course we would 3142 03:59:05,840 --> 03:59:13,359 so working with that team on bringing 3143 03:59:10,640 --> 03:59:18,479 curb gutter and sidewalk improvements um and a solar micro grid and other backup 3144 03:59:16,479 --> 03:59:22,319 power as part of part of that project to the hope center 3145 03:59:20,239 --> 03:59:26,560 um the starbucks project's going well as i'm sure you've realized um the 3146 03:59:23,920 --> 03:59:30,800 developer is i'm trying to finalize the plans for phase two of that we had an 3147 03:59:29,120 --> 03:59:34,399 administrative use permit hearing for the 3148 03:59:31,680 --> 03:59:37,920 um stealth cell tower that's going to be part of the pylon sign that will be 3149 03:59:36,080 --> 03:59:43,359 installed there so that was approved today and so 3150 03:59:41,439 --> 03:59:46,160 they will be um moving forward with their building 3151 03:59:44,399 --> 03:59:50,080 permits on that um and then they acquired additional 3152 03:59:48,399 --> 03:59:55,840 property at the site so we're expecting a phase three 3153 03:59:51,600 --> 04:00:00,160 um to follow that development um just a couple other things sorry i have 3154 03:59:57,760 --> 04:00:05,600 a lot of stuff um clear lake waste solutions notified us 3155 04:00:02,319 --> 04:00:10,479 yesterday that um they're being bought out by a larger 3156 04:00:08,960 --> 04:00:14,239 waste hauler and um 3157 04:00:12,880 --> 04:00:18,399 you know they won't go into all the details now they 3158 04:00:16,239 --> 04:00:24,720 believe that it's going to be a good transition for all bruce mccracken 3159 04:00:21,279 --> 04:00:27,760 is going to be hired by this group and remain 3160 04:00:26,160 --> 04:00:31,840 on the team which gives me a lot of relief that will still 3161 04:00:29,600 --> 04:00:35,040 continue to have great service there is going to be an action that's required by 3162 04:00:33,439 --> 04:00:42,000 the council we're planning on taking that on august 5th but 3163 04:00:37,520 --> 04:00:42,000 anyway wanted to let you know about that 3164 04:00:42,319 --> 04:00:49,520 the um oh i'm going to be attending the icma's international 3165 04:00:47,279 --> 04:00:53,680 city managers association conference in october 3166 04:00:51,120 --> 04:00:56,479 i've been asked to speak as a panelist 3167 04:00:55,439 --> 04:00:59,359 a discussion 3168 04:00:57,600 --> 04:01:04,560 entitled a tale of two cities attracting retail and small and rural communities 3169 04:01:01,840 --> 04:01:08,479 with a town manager from warrington virginia so um 3170 04:01:06,720 --> 04:01:11,199 looking forward to that opportunity and then 3171 04:01:09,359 --> 04:01:15,840 one final thing this is kind of more of a future agenda item i guess but 3172 04:01:13,680 --> 04:01:20,720 because of the census there's going to there's a number of redis redistricting 3173 04:01:19,120 --> 04:01:27,279 decisions that are going to need to be made 3174 04:01:24,160 --> 04:01:33,040 the state has a redistricting commission they're kind of starting their public 3175 04:01:29,279 --> 04:01:36,399 outreach related to this and that's going to be continuing 3176 04:01:34,560 --> 04:01:41,439 through the end of the year there will be a community meeting at 3177 04:01:39,040 --> 04:01:44,160 towards the end of august for our sort of zone in the state 3178 04:01:43,359 --> 04:01:48,960 but i wanted to bring up and see if the 3179 04:01:46,880 --> 04:01:53,760 council was interested in um 3180 04:01:50,160 --> 04:01:57,840 actively lobbying to rejoin 3181 04:01:55,359 --> 04:02:00,399 congressman thompson's district um 3182 04:01:59,359 --> 04:02:04,239 you know since the last redistricting lake county 3183 04:02:02,560 --> 04:02:08,560 has been split between congressman thompson and congressman garamendi um we 3184 04:02:07,840 --> 04:02:12,000 get very little representation from congress 3185 04:02:10,560 --> 04:02:14,560 from garamendi and 3186 04:02:12,800 --> 04:02:20,160 i think there's certainly an interest from congressman thompson's office to 3187 04:02:16,960 --> 04:02:24,800 represent us again and so i just kind of wanted to gauge the 3188 04:02:21,920 --> 04:02:29,680 council and see if there's interest in possibly actively requesting that type 3189 04:02:27,439 --> 04:02:33,680 of thing from the council as part of this process 3190 04:02:31,120 --> 04:02:38,080 and if that's the case then we'll probably come back with another um item 3191 04:02:36,399 --> 04:02:43,840 that you know talks a little bit more about the options for doing so 3192 04:02:40,319 --> 04:02:43,840 i definitely agree with that 3193 04:02:47,199 --> 04:02:54,000 okay that's my report councilman kramer anything to report on 3194 04:02:51,920 --> 04:02:57,680 very little report on all meetings that i normally would attend 3195 04:02:55,680 --> 04:03:03,439 were because of the holiday i think were probably canceled 3196 04:03:00,960 --> 04:03:06,720 uh i have been attending blue zone planning 3197 04:03:04,560 --> 04:03:11,040 committee meetings but i assume that 3198 04:03:08,640 --> 04:03:14,319 that mayor vice mayor perdoc is going to give you a report on that so i'm not 3199 04:03:12,720 --> 04:03:18,000 going to have anything to say on that other than 3200 04:03:16,239 --> 04:03:24,239 monday i'm going to let you go with that 3201 04:03:19,680 --> 04:03:29,040 so that's all i have councilman overton clapper you have anything to report on 3202 04:03:26,800 --> 04:03:33,120 uh i attended the peg tv meeting which uh no real action items from that just 3203 04:03:31,279 --> 04:03:36,800 good to see that team moving forward i just wanted to make a comment about the 3204 04:03:34,880 --> 04:03:41,520 fourth of july and the incredible job the staff did the 3205 04:03:38,880 --> 04:03:46,000 police department public works of course the lions every year put on a great 3206 04:03:43,279 --> 04:03:51,199 event um and it i i was there for the parade and i i 3207 04:03:48,560 --> 04:03:56,399 stayed for for mr rich and it was just a superb event all around so kudos to all 3208 04:03:54,160 --> 04:04:00,960 of you thank you for the number of folks that i met that were 3209 04:03:58,239 --> 04:04:04,319 from out of town or were from blake county that came here and just had a 3210 04:04:02,880 --> 04:04:08,399 blast it's a great rep 3211 04:04:06,239 --> 04:04:11,920 reputation builder for our area and i think you all did wonderful so thank you 3212 04:04:12,720 --> 04:04:18,880 nice mayor product well done david you stole my thunder i 3213 04:04:16,800 --> 04:04:22,960 was waiting for them i was going to get the chance to 3214 04:04:20,800 --> 04:04:28,399 just hear my accolades yeah i just would like to echo councilmember clappy's 3215 04:04:25,040 --> 04:04:32,640 comments um what a great presentation i think we've turned the corner we're on 3216 04:04:29,840 --> 04:04:37,760 our way uh making our ascent um there are wonderful things happening 3217 04:04:34,800 --> 04:04:42,080 down here it was great to hear a concert in the park been working for six years 3218 04:04:40,319 --> 04:04:46,080 to get a band stand over there and it was very disappointing with covid not to 3219 04:04:44,239 --> 04:04:50,239 be able to really celebrate and bring that in 3220 04:04:47,600 --> 04:04:54,160 kudos again to lions club another great great event 3221 04:04:54,720 --> 04:05:00,160 anyway great fireworks show and thanks to all the sponsors that 3222 04:04:58,960 --> 04:05:04,399 donated including individuals and many of us 3223 04:05:01,760 --> 04:05:08,080 here in this room or uh donating to the to the fireworks it was a great show 3224 04:05:07,040 --> 04:05:14,080 um as uh councilman cramer pointed out 3225 04:05:11,199 --> 04:05:17,520 um blue zones initiative is a community uh 3226 04:05:14,960 --> 04:05:22,000 based grassroot initiative to try to improve the health and wealth of lake 3227 04:05:19,439 --> 04:05:27,199 county and and clear lake in particular help our youth help our seniors 3228 04:05:24,160 --> 04:05:33,840 and the team is coming into lake county on monday july 26th they will remain on 3229 04:05:30,800 --> 04:05:40,479 site until the 30th wanting to meet with as many as they can 3230 04:05:36,319 --> 04:05:45,040 if you can please uh contact me or or go to the blue zone site and you can 3231 04:05:42,880 --> 04:05:49,279 register to be a participant um so your voice can be heard and again 3232 04:05:47,439 --> 04:05:52,640 if you have any questions please contact me i'd be happy to share 3233 04:05:51,680 --> 04:06:00,239 all right uh mr kramer has it you over no okay 3234 04:05:57,359 --> 04:06:04,399 uh a couple of things uh i thought the concert was just awesome 3235 04:06:02,479 --> 04:06:10,239 i've never seen so many people in the park happy they were parked out there 3236 04:06:07,199 --> 04:06:13,439 from the morning on it was it was at kudos to 3237 04:06:11,680 --> 04:06:18,319 all of the city staff that was just awesome i was so happy to 3238 04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:23,120 see this i was really poked about it all standard and also i want to congratulate 3239 04:06:20,960 --> 04:06:27,920 chief white on his appointment on the 911 committee that's an honor and i 3240 04:06:26,160 --> 04:06:31,120 couldn't have picked a better person for that 3241 04:06:29,439 --> 04:06:36,160 all right uh future agenda items 3242 04:06:33,520 --> 04:06:38,479 got any anybody anything right have not 3243 04:06:37,359 --> 04:06:45,399 um if not 3244 04:06:40,880 --> 04:06:45,399 we'll join and go to closed sessions