[2:10] uh it's a workshop we're first a roll
call
[2:15] listen
council member clappy
[2:19] here
council member overton councilmember
[2:22] kramer here vice mayor burdock here
here
[2:27] all right we go to the burns valley
development project workshop
[2:31] mr flora to
start off this
[2:35] yeah so um
[2:38] so this is going to be kind of in two
parts we're going to start
[2:42] by introducing
um
[2:45] brian whitmore who's with studio w
architects and so
[2:49] the city of clear lake the city of
lakeport and the county of lake over the
[2:53] last
well quite a few months have been
[2:57] working with
brian's team on developing a recreation
[3:02] feasibility study for the entire county
so um
[3:07] this is the first of the presentations
to the governmental agencies about this
[3:12] report so you're the first to see it and
then
[3:15] hopefully we have some time at the end
to kind of go over
[3:18] the draft site plan that we've been
working with the burns valley sports
[3:22] complex committee on
so with that i'd like to turn over to to
[3:28] brian and michael to go over the
plan well good evening everyone i'm
[3:33] brian whitmore i'm with studio w
architects can you hear me okay this
[3:37] evening
yes
[3:39] wonderful yes okay
i'm joined here this evening by uh mike
[3:43] gelato mike is with shellato training
and consulting mike you want to give a
[3:47] just a brief
introduction yourself
[3:51] sure um
i retired from the city of roseville in
[3:55] 2010 i'm in the last year or so i was
serving the city manager but prior to
[4:00] that most of my career was either as the
director of parks recreation libraries
[4:05] or assistant city manager still doing
parks recreational library so
[4:09] um since retiring i worked with a number
of jurisdictions on feasibility studies
[4:16] operational analysis strategic plans
have a lot of familiarity working with
[4:21] both aquatic centers and recreation
centers not only in my city with the
[4:25] city of roosevelt but in the agencies
i've worked with subsequently
[4:32] then i see dennis has joined us as well
from aquatic design group dennis you
[4:36] want to give a brief introduction to
yourself
[4:38] thanks brian yes good evening
hi i'm dennis berkshire with aquatic
[4:42] design group aquatic design group is an
architectural engineering firm that
[4:47] specializes in public recreational water
systems and and facilities
[4:53] we've been in practice since 1984 and
and have designed more than
[4:59] 3 500
facilities across the us through
[5:03] 42 states and 24 countries
[5:09] great i'm gonna share my screen here and
hopefully you folks can see this okay
[5:14] can you see my screen
yeah all right
[5:18] so we we have a presentation here i just
wanted to share with you our three
[5:23] entities studio w architects aquatic
design group enchilada training and
[5:27] consulting are the consultants that put
together uh this report uh this is a
[5:32] high level overview of the report the
report itself at least for phase one we
[5:36] have a two part phase one and phase two
component
[5:40] to the study
we were
[5:43] given the green light to move forward on
phase one
[5:46] which includes some of the items here
i'll go through today
[5:50] but we will offer that report for
everybody for review uh following this
[5:54] presentation this is the first by the
way of three presentations that we
[5:58] expect to give both to you folks at the
city of clear lake uh the city of
[6:02] lakeport and also lake county
so the agenda here this evening we're
[6:07] going to talk briefly about the purpose
and the process that we embarked on
[6:11] for phase one
we've identified a number of partners
[6:16] that is
known throughout the report as the lake
[6:19] county recreation task force and then
also other resources
[6:23] that were available
we went through some programming with
[6:26] that team to identify some of the needs
both for recreational facility and an
[6:31] aquatics facility
now i will mention that there was some
[6:35] difference between sort of the interests
uh on aquatics as it relates to sort of
[6:39] lakeport and the rest of the county
versus the city of or the area of clear
[6:43] lake
and we'll talk about that in this
[6:46] presentation
we did some very high level capital cost
[6:50] estimates and also cost recovery trends
we looked at various management
[6:55] structures how a recreation center or
aquatic center of this kind might be
[7:00] managed
funding opportunities that exist and
[7:03] project location opportunities that
exist and we'll talk about next steps
[7:09] so the purpose of the phase one study
was really to explore the feasibility of
[7:13] a recreation
and or aquatic center in lake county
[7:18] identify the marketability of the
facility that is its need identify
[7:22] programmatic features such as
to identify its capital costs and and
[7:27] potential cost recovery and then
identifying management structure funding
[7:32] and location opportunities
the process began on march 24th
[7:37] we held regular meetings with a large
contingent of what we're considering
[7:42] that lake county recreation task force
we facilitate facilitated tight site
[7:47] tours
on april 13th so we toured multiple
[7:51] sites both in clear lake and in lakeport
so throughout the county
[7:57] we schedule presentations tonight and we
have subsequent presentations for the
[8:01] city of lakeport on august 3rd and
august 10th up for the county of lake
[8:08] uh these were the partners that were
identified and actually
[8:12] the task force had done a pretty good
job of putting these folks together even
[8:15] prior to when we got selected
so from a local government agency
[8:20] standpoint we have lake county city of
lakeport city of clear lake and lake
[8:25] county office of education
the school districts included lakeport
[8:29] unified school district connected
unified school district
[8:33] upper lake unified mendocino college and
woodland community college now some of
[8:38] these folks were very active in the
process and offered a lot of information
[8:43] some of these folks were simply on the
email list
[8:47] and were provided information as we went
through the process
[8:50] but certainly these could be considered
partners especially when we start to
[8:53] look at funding opportunities
and other mechanisms of joint use or
[8:57] other capacities we move forward
some of the local community
[9:01] organizations that we're identifying
include first five of lake county
[9:05] lake family resource center the lake
county channel cats this is sort of the
[9:10] local aquatics team
hope rising
[9:15] the west side park committee which is
the committee focused on the westside
[9:18] park area of lakeport
redwood community services
[9:23] we also identified healthcare providers
we see a lot of healthcare organizations
[9:28] becoming involved with recreation
aquatics facilities across the state
[9:32] and you have a number of them here
locally sutter health adventist health
[9:35] and also tribal health
and one of the things that we identified
[9:39] although they weren't involved at the
task force level
[9:43] were some of the additional resources
that could be lent from some of the
[9:46] tribes
that are identified here
[9:49] and so we tried to identify all of the
local tribes
[9:53] that have at least some some hand in the
lake county region
[9:59] part of the process that we went through
was trying to identify a program really
[10:02] identify what were the needs when you
start to identify recreational uses and
[10:07] also aquatic uses across the county
and this
[10:12] spreadsheet identifies at least for the
recreational center
[10:16] some of the items that came up
so some sort of large multi-use indoor
[10:22] court type of facility so for basketball
and volleyball
[10:25] would probably have maybe an 84 by 50
main court
[10:29] cross courts those sorts of things
racquetball courts
[10:33] cardio and weights area
some sort of training rooms
[10:38] either for
yoga other sort of specialized classes
[10:42] those kinds of things
perhaps a game area a billiards
[10:47] other sorts of smaller games those kinds
of things card room
[10:50] other elements that bring
folks from a variety of different age
[10:54] groups
to a recreational center
[10:57] obviously we have a lot of support types
of spaces restroom facilities entry
[11:01] reception locker room type of facilities
custodial storage
[11:05] equipment and circulation and so
generally speaking we looked at sort of
[11:09] if we identify gross areas for these
kinds of things how big of a facility
[11:13] might be we might we'd be looking at
and so what this dictates is right
[11:18] around 15 000 square foot facility
which is not
[11:23] insignificant in size but it's certainly
not
[11:26] you know large by comparison to some of
the examples that we'll share with you a
[11:29] little later in this presentation
[11:33] likewise from the standpoint of aquatics
and i'll give dennis a opportunity to
[11:37] jump in here but i'll just go through a
brief recap
[11:40] we identified a variety of different
aquatic opportunities
[11:43] and pool configurations we identified
four different
[11:47] options
those options have
[11:50] varying requirements when it comes to
both the bath house and support building
[11:54] so obviously the larger the pool
facility
[11:57] the larger the support facilities that
go along with that as well as the pool
[12:01] deck area
this was option one this is a 4 800
[12:05] an 80 square foot pool featuring a 75
foot long by 40 foot wide 45 foot wide
[12:12] lap area with the teaching peninsula
the city of patterson is a good example
[12:16] of a pool of this kind
and this was one of the options that was
[12:20] looked at when we looked at sort of the
area need
[12:23] necessary for a pool pool deck and bath
house and support of this kind of pool
[12:28] by comparison option two
was around a 5700 square foot pool
[12:33] featuring a 75 long by 75 foot wide lap
area for 10
[12:37] 25 yard lanes
yuba city gaucher park in yuba city was
[12:42] the example a case study that we used
featuring this pool
[12:47] in each one of these cases i'll mention
as well aquatic design group also put
[12:51] together
cost information is related to
[12:54] maintaining and operating these pools
not just capital costs and that's part
[12:58] of the report
that we put together also
[13:02] option three is a 5800 square foot
78 foot long by 45 foot wide lap area
[13:08] for a nine lane um essentially a nine 25
yard lane with six feet of deep water uh
[13:14] for various other forms of competition
this was the largest of the options and
[13:20] consequently obviously the largest in
terms of pool deck area
[13:24] and supporting area
this facility is currently designed as
[13:28] part of north natomas community center
aquatics complex this is in sacramento
[13:32] and this was a project uh that started
actually as a feasibility study back in
[13:36] 2014 that's currently under construction
um so it gives you a good idea of just
[13:41] you know how many years in the process
there
[13:44] that it took from sort of where we're at
today
[13:46] to where they were able to build a
community center
[13:49] and aquatic center
and then finally a fourth option a 3 500
[13:54] square foot pool featuring a 75 foot
long by 45 foot wide lap area
[13:59] for 6 25 yard lanes
this was the the smallest of the
[14:04] configurations and therefore the
smallest in terms of its area need
[14:09] we also identified spray ground there
was some desire of the ability that in
[14:14] an aquatics program somewhere in lake
county to have uh not only just a single
[14:18] body of water but perhaps a second body
of water that would allow for
[14:22] uh playtime activities and activities
for smaller children that aren't yet
[14:27] ready to swim
so this all of these options include a 2
[14:31] 000 square foot playgrounds essentially
50 by 4
[14:35] parking is largely dictated by
the size of the pool the size of the
[14:39] deck area obviously in the rec center
configuration
[14:42] parking would be dictated solely by the
rec center
[14:45] but we did identify the needs for
parking
[14:48] and so based on sort of these very high
level programmatic needs
[14:52] we looked at uh dollar per square foot
cost so costs ranging from the rec
[14:57] center to probably somewhere around 500
a square foot
[15:01] to the pool the spray ground the bath
house pool deck area the parking area
[15:05] the site pool equipment and site
infrastructure
[15:09] these costs range from anywhere from
about 14 to
[15:13] maybe 15 or 16 million dollars in
construction we did add contingency we
[15:17] did ad escalation for a number of years
trying to be conservative and then soft
[15:21] costs at around 25 so what you see here
is that you know all the needs that were
[15:26] sort of identified through this study
add up to somewhere around 22
[15:31] 21 to 22 million dollars
depending on the options and the
[15:35] configurations that you look at
and then just by comparison and really
[15:41] for the purposes of the city of clear
lake
[15:45] because there wasn't maybe as much of a
desire for aquatics program
[15:49] in the clear lake area
just looking at the potential of a
[15:52] recreation center with its own parking
and site infrastructure you know
[15:56] probably closer to the eight to nine
million dollars in construction 12
[16:00] million dollars
in total project costs with soft costs
[16:03] there
as well
[16:06] cost recovery trends this was something
that mike shelton put together
[16:11] based on understanding of similar
facility operation what we did was we
[16:14] looked at a number of different
facilities
[16:17] most of these facilities are larger in
size than what was identified there you
[16:22] can see
roseville sports center there is
[16:25] probably the closest at 23 000 square
feet
[16:29] mill valley community center and indoor
pool some of these are simply rec
[16:32] centers some of them include rec centers
and pool facilities but what you see
[16:36] there is a range of cost recovery
the cd star community center and indoor
[16:42] pool
being probably the worst in terms of
[16:45] cost recovery at about 37
and then
[16:49] the incline village recreation center an
indoor pool there in nevada on the north
[16:54] side of lake tahoe being one of the best
at 102
[16:58] but what you see here is a funding
subsidy and this is an annualized
[17:03] funding subsidy
of anywheres from you know a hundred
[17:06] thousand dollars actually twenty seven
thousand dollars in inclines case uh to
[17:10] somewhere over a million for cv star um
what we would expect maybe with a
[17:14] smaller facility
and an average maybe 78 is the average
[17:19] here of these
areas identified or these buildings
[17:23] identified
maybe you're looking at a couple hundred
[17:25] thousand dollars each year
in subsidy uh in terms of cost recovery
[17:30] and so that is really what sort of
revenue are you generating in terms of
[17:34] you know sales of tickets uh other kinds
of entry fees that sort of thing
[17:39] um other types of special events and
then what sort of actual revenue are you
[17:43] generating in terms of maintenance
operation uh et cetera mike do you want
[17:47] to add anything here
no i think in trying to benchmark what
[17:52] uh rec centers and and or pools
for this thing we looked at not only
[17:58] size but the scope of the work so the
fitness the components of brian went
[18:03] over in terms of the program for the
building are pretty similar in some
[18:07] cases because of buildings
at 35 000 square feet or 30 thousand
[18:11] they have other amenities or facilities
agora hills
[18:16] has
some
[18:18] multi-purpose room banquet rooms that
are part of that center mill valley also
[18:23] has some community center meeting rooms
that are bigger
[18:26] agora hills as a climbing wall roseau
sports center has a climbing wall but
[18:31] generally speaking the the program for
the buildings that we use in the
[18:35] benchmark uh were similar
[18:40] so then we start to look at management
structures actually after we start to
[18:44] identify what's the potential need
um you know what are we looking at in
[18:49] terms of potential cost and cost
recovery
[18:52] we were asked to take a look at you know
how might lake county and or various
[18:57] partners within lake county manage a
facility of this kind and we identified
[19:01] four different options
hopefully some of these you're familiar
[19:05] with
mike maybe if you want to jump in and
[19:07] talk briefly about uh just joint
development use agreement versus joint
[19:11] powers authority and then i'll switch
the other sure
[19:14] the the um the first being the one i'm
obviously most familiar with is the
[19:19] roosevelt aquatic center um the the pool
that you see in the picture is built on
[19:23] a a 200 acre park that sits immediately
adjacent to a high school in roosevelt
[19:30] one of the high schools in roseville
in this case the school district
[19:33] contributed over a million dollars
towards the construction of the pool
[19:38] as well as some other joint use
facilities in the park site so lighted
[19:42] ball fields and some things the city
roosevelt has a long history of joint
[19:46] use
facilities with the
[19:49] all four different school districts in
this case the high school district
[19:53] and the um this the part of the
agreement provided for ongoing
[19:58] funding operations
from the school district to fund the
[20:02] operation of the pool and that's fairly
normal
[20:05] in this case it's roosevelt but there's
a number of other examples where
[20:10] joint used parks and pools are built
together and in some cases
[20:15] normally the lead is where the property
where the pool is built on and then the
[20:20] other part of the other joint used party
contributes both to construction and
[20:24] ongoing operation
um the uh i worked with the agora hills
[20:29] calabasas community center which was
pretty unique it was a joint powers
[20:34] authority between the cities of
calabasas and the city of glory hills
[20:38] and they got some money they had some
land from the la county
[20:43] and then
did some other fundraising and
[20:46] contributions between both of those
agencies
[20:50] it's run
by the jpa which is its own entity uh
[20:55] although both the cities of calabasas
and the city of agora hills
[20:59] creates an annual contribution um to
offset the operating costs of the
[21:04] facility this facility does really well
in terms of
[21:08] in a normal non-coveted year but in a
regular year
[21:11] they do a really good job of really
being pretty close to 100 cost recovery
[21:16] it's a bigger facility but it's
extremely well utilized um
[21:20] in those two jurisdictions but the jpa
was the model by which it was both
[21:25] funded for development and continues to
be funded by jpa the jpa board is made
[21:31] up of a couple of council members from
each of the respective cities as well as
[21:35] other citizens at large that might be
from the park and recreation commission
[21:39] and then citizens at large that manage
the jpa
[21:44] i think the city of
i don't want to get this wrong one of
[21:48] the cities
is responsible for doing payroll
[21:51] but then the funding comes from the jpa
itself
[21:55] the other model
cv star uh community center i worked
[22:00] with this jurisdiction actually to do uh
operational analysis to try to improve
[22:04] their overall utilization and cost
recovery um this is really pretty
[22:09] spectacular facility that came from some
both private donations and from a
[22:14] foundation that allowed it to be built
it was
[22:18] i think probably about 40 million
dollars so it's a pretty expansive
[22:21] facilities but but it's run by the
mendocino coast recreation and park
[22:26] district which is a relatively small
agency up by fort bragg
[22:31] and what they realized early on once it
was opened that they really couldn't
[22:36] cover a lot of their operating costs so
the city of fort bragg uh
[22:40] entered into an agreement with the
mendocino coast recreation park district
[22:44] and then passed a tax
override measure to provide the ongoing
[22:50] subsidy for this operation because it
really wasn't covering its operating
[22:55] costs so you see that's although it has
the largest
[22:59] subsidy if you will
in terms of operating costs that's
[23:02] actually funded
via the
[23:05] tax measure that was used to offset the
operating cost
[23:09] the last is um
the special district for recreation we
[23:14] were asked to look at that so we looked
at
[23:17] the turkey donor park and recreation
district up out of truckee and they
[23:21] built a fairly large recreation center
and then just two years ago opened a
[23:25] large indoor pool complex
um and that was funded by
[23:30] um the funding from the
the local recreation and park district
[23:35] that they have
as well as they got some other monies
[23:38] from
gosh the airport district and a couple
[23:41] other
areas uh it it generally does really
[23:45] well in terms of cost recovery uh the
facilities this one has a large gym has
[23:50] a couple of meeting rooms
fitness facilities child care those kind
[23:54] of things that we similar to what we're
talking about but a little larger scale
[24:00] but the park district is a separate
entity so the truckee donner recreation
[24:05] park district overlays the town of
turkey which is its own
[24:10] municipality
and it also overlays
[24:14] some of the other areas like
tahoe donner homeowner association which
[24:19] is a homeowner association about 25 000
residents so it's been overlapping use
[24:24] so the the customers come from
um you know multiple jurisdictions um
[24:30] the town of turkey didn't really put any
money into it uh they tried to do a bond
[24:34] measure to build a pool but um narrowly
didn't pass
[24:39] but then they didn't have the funding to
go ahead and build it it's a very
[24:43] popular facility although like everybody
else this year has been slowly reopening
[24:47] with covet right
so they're getting back up to speed
[24:51] so that kind of outlines the basic
management structures from
[24:55] joint use
as well as
[24:58] one of the things we looked at if there
was a special district
[25:01] um overlaying the three respective
communities in uh in the lakeport
[25:07] clear lake lake county area
and then or just traditional joint use
[25:14] so additionally one of the things that
we looked at was funding opportunities
[25:19] um and so we surveyed at least amongst
many of the task force members sort of
[25:25] what existed out there currently or what
was reasonably visible versus other
[25:30] future potential sources and i will say
this is one of the things that
[25:35] is not well defined
at this point
[25:38] there really isn't a clear definition of
how much funding where funding might
[25:43] come from for a facility of this kind
hence the reason we've talked about
[25:46] management structures you know trying to
bring multiple entities together to sort
[25:51] of leverage their own respective funding
pods
[25:53] to be able to make that more palatable
and more feasible
[25:58] for example when we when we talk about
the north natomas aquatics
[26:02] facility center that started that
feasibility back in
[26:06] 2014
you know much of that funding was really
[26:09] the city and one
city council member in particular that
[26:13] represented that district the city of
sacramento is represented by various
[26:16] districts uh you know really saying you
know making that a priority
[26:22] you know obligating the rest of the city
for general funds
[26:26] looking at special taxes that were
identified for the purposes of
[26:31] parks and recreation in the district one
region
[26:34] and then partnering with with some of
the large business owners private
[26:37] privately funded business owners health
care providers
[26:40] as well as the local school district in
their local bond
[26:44] in order to bring enough facilities
together roughly about 40 million
[26:48] dollars in capital funding and then an
additional probably somewhere around
[26:52] half a million dollars annually uh in
terms of subsidy to uh to facilitate
[26:57] that piece so some of the the entities
that we identified here in terms of
[27:02] funding include obviously general funds
and all entities the city of clear lake
[27:07] city lakeport and certainly lake county
have those available
[27:11] lake county has quinby
there are state grants available both at
[27:15] lake county and at local school district
levels certainly the local school
[27:18] districts are probably looking at in
cases where they have had bonds pass and
[27:23] they have leveraged some of that money
locally
[27:25] looking at prop 51 or even new
proposition we're anticipating another
[27:29] state bond in 2022
that may have some funds coming back to
[27:34] them and there may be additional funds
there
[27:36] having leveraged off their local funds
neighboring housing redevelopment funds
[27:41] i understand there's some potential
there with the city of clear lake the
[27:44] school district bonds the local bonds
which i mentioned and we understand
[27:47] there was
you know some prioritization
[27:50] particularly at lakeport about you know
what they spent their money on what the
[27:54] promise was perhaps to spend money on as
it related to in particular aquatic
[27:59] center but based on the prioritization
of projects and perhaps even the
[28:02] expensive projects at that time
that that priority really fell off the
[28:06] map so there's a little bit of funds
there but not much uh when it relates to
[28:10] lakeport a little bit it can octa
unified school district as well
[28:14] remaining rescue act funds at connecti
and then property and asset sale
[28:18] potential
as it relates to lake form other
[28:21] potential sources include
tax assessments that may not be as yet
[28:26] defined or some sort of tax assessment
that may want to be looked at in the
[28:29] future for the purpose of funding such
as a project as this
[28:34] development funding or additional
development agreements with future
[28:38] developments in particular homeowner
developments
[28:40] state bond funding proposition 68
federal funding the american recovery
[28:45] act there is funds there although um you
know they are generally limited and and
[28:50] very competitive in terms of the way
that they're being dolled out
[28:54] the joint powers agreement funding we
talked about
[28:57] previously landed one-time funding and
was even suggested by lake county about
[29:02] the potential of some of the cannabis
industry
[29:04] which seems to have a firm foothold in
the region
[29:09] project location opportunities so as i
mentioned back in april we did tour
[29:14] several different sites
some of the selection criteria i've
[29:19] identified here i think is very
important it's very important as you
[29:23] folks in particular think about city of
clear lake and the opportunity that you
[29:26] have
with your burns valley park development
[29:29] site
and that is the proximity and or
[29:33] synergies that exist with other like
types of facilities
[29:37] so the proximity to other community park
amenities athletic fields
[29:42] baseball soccer hard courts other kinds
of things that go hand in hand with a
[29:47] recreation type of facility
so they're being nearby
[29:51] the potential for shared parking amongst
some of those facilities
[29:55] so on special events or other kinds of
functions there
[29:58] you're not building say independent
parking areas you're building joint use
[30:02] parking that could be paired
it could be used separately depending on
[30:06] the time of the year or the the time of
a day of a particular event a
[30:12] co-location of libraries other centers
senior centers schools
[30:16] and also pools with recreation centers
combined
[30:20] that these have a lot of synergies
together they bring together certainly a
[30:23] lot of different age groups uh the
potential for child care the potential
[30:27] for senior citizen involvement those
kinds of things we feel like are very
[30:30] important and then the place making
principles
[30:33] that you kind of see here off to the
right you know social
[30:37] emotional
types of things comfort
[30:40] access obviously
we did look at things like arterial
[30:44] streets and access to
major thoroughfares public transit other
[30:49] kinds of things
i'm not going to go into too much detail
[30:53] about some of the properties in the city
of lakeport
[30:56] we'll talk a little bit about the burns
valley park development and i understand
[30:59] you're going to have a presentation
after this about sort of the master plan
[31:03] that's evolving from that
but there were a number of facilities in
[31:07] the lakeport area the west shore
swimming pool which is part of the
[31:10] existing high school there in lakeport
which unfortunately now is is not an
[31:15] operation there's really not a lot to
save there
[31:18] but certainly it has some synergies when
it comes to the pool
[31:22] that exists in the parking and also the
high school that's there it doesn't have
[31:27] real good access to nature thoroughfares
just a little bit off the beaten path
[31:31] there is some additional land that the
district owns but it's generally very
[31:37] hard to access in fact access compliance
is one of the first things that you
[31:40] recognize when you look at that site
the quail run fitness center is kind of
[31:45] an intriguing opportunity for the city
of lakeport
[31:49] that's a pre-existing recreation and
pool facility
[31:53] that has some potential for sale
it would be an opportunity for
[31:57] renovation so it would uh it wouldn't be
a ground-up sort of scenario and
[32:01] obviously there'd be a significant cost
savings at least capital cost initially
[32:06] to leverage that facility in terms of
you know it's its structure its shell if
[32:11] you will and then build out what's
necessary to sort of support the needs
[32:15] that we would identify within the county
the pool itself is probably not the
[32:19] correct size we probably increased the
size of the pool the pool deck and some
[32:23] of those amenities
but it is very proximate to the west
[32:26] side park in fact it's just
across the street there and there could
[32:30] be some both pedestrian and other access
opportunities that exist between the two
[32:34] it's also very coincident with the major
thoroughfare there the highway one of
[32:39] the major
intersections to the highway and so it
[32:42] gives a lot of access obviously to to
the county area and then finally the
[32:46] west side community park area as part of
the phase two master plan
[32:50] lends itself an opportunity to develop a
new built
[32:54] recreation and or aquatic center at that
location
[32:58] uh but for you guys uh the burns valley
park development is really the location
[33:03] that we looked at
and so
[33:05] we identified some of the pros and cons
and part of i believe what uh city
[33:10] manager is going to share with you here
in a moment is some of even the
[33:13] recommendations of our team made about
how to orchestrate perhaps even some of
[33:17] the conceptual design there
so some of the pros that we identify
[33:22] obviously it's already a park business
area
[33:25] many synergies exist with both the
potential for future parking utilities
[33:30] and athletics fields which are already
planned a neighboring library
[33:35] which i think is a fantastic synergy
between a recreational center
[33:40] and the rest of the athletics pieces
that are there and also the senior
[33:44] center which is just up the street
close proximity to sort of
[33:48] the olympic drive
area there running east-west
[33:54] and so you kind of have
again better access to uh to facilities
[33:59] even like local restaurants
and other types of amenities that can
[34:04] help serve some of these special events
and the things that go along with the
[34:08] rec center and even the potential for
reporting
[34:10] some of the cons of course is it is a
ground-up build
[34:14] you know so you're talking about
bringing full level of utilities to the
[34:17] site
some of the costs that are identified
[34:20] there i know some people probably get
some sticker shock we are still in a
[34:23] very escalating market when it comes to
construction across the state and so
[34:27] it's more likely that we're going to see
you know those prices continue to
[34:31] increase and so those are probably the
only cons in the dressing say a ground
[34:36] up site versus a renovation opportunity
like like
[34:42] so um as sort of a summary and next
steps some of the recommendations moving
[34:47] forward one of the things that we would
recommend as part of really the second
[34:51] phase we identified it briefly in the
first phase report but is is
[34:55] facilitating a strategic market analysis
so perhaps utilizing surveys conducted
[35:01] via social media you have a lot of
social media outlets
[35:04] as part of the report we identified some
of the key questions that should be
[35:07] asked
and how maybe perhaps some of that
[35:10] social media survey might be operated
we got a lot of feedback from the folks
[35:16] on the
lake county recreation task force a lot
[35:19] of the members that were identified and
the partners there
[35:22] while that may be strong that doesn't
necessarily identify the core need and
[35:27] there may be other needs or other pieces
that are identified and so i think
[35:30] that's very important
as you think about the potential of
[35:33] partnering perhaps with other
folks or even building a recreation type
[35:38] of facility on your own
of just what sort of market analysis
[35:42] that
and and what sort of programmatic needs
[35:46] are they really looking to have there
what we show is really kind of a blended
[35:50] group of priorities as a result of sort
of across the county
[35:54] narrowing down the location not so much
in your case the location but the
[35:58] funding opportunities how would you fund
such a a program
[36:02] both from a capital cost standpoint and
an ongoing operational and maintenance
[36:07] standpoint the cost recovery
examples that we showed you earlier and
[36:12] then really our phase two component to
the report uh would enable you to then
[36:16] do some actual conceptual layouts
so if it is burns valley and there is an
[36:21] identification
of land there identified as part of that
[36:24] master plan you know what might that
program really hold
[36:28] what sort of conceptual design might
emerge from that that then we use to put
[36:33] together a more professional cost
destination
[36:37] and operational analysis and then be
able to finalize that report so that you
[36:41] really have a target there in terms of
what you're looking to fund and how much
[36:46] funding
that would occur at that point perhaps
[36:50] you might look at
solidifying joint use opportunities
[36:53] other sorts of things don't really see
is that the special district is perhaps
[36:57] something that might come to fruition
but perhaps it is
[37:01] like was identified at truckee donner
but more than likely some sort of either
[37:05] joint powers agreement joy use type of
agreement or even joint development
[37:09] amongst yourselves
the local school districts and some of
[37:12] the other
private entities that were identified
[37:15] local nonprofit
entities that were identified here
[37:20] so with that um i'm going to turn it
over for those that might have question
[37:25] and answer in fact i'll take this off of
there so hopefully you can see us a
[37:28] little bit better
um
[37:30] but happy to uh to answer the questions
you might have at this point regarding
[37:35] phase one in that portion of the study
[37:40] you you didn't have identified anything
in the south county uh middletown and
[37:46] kelseyville between lake port and
clearly why is that
[37:51] that's a good question um you know
really as part of the the discovery that
[37:56] was an area that really wasn't something
that i think people felt was was
[38:01] either high need or perhaps um
something that neither one of the cities
[38:07] has sort of said on lake county i think
while they're sort of orchestrating a
[38:11] lot of this i don't see them as maybe
perhaps being a huge
[38:15] dollar partner in the process
and so when you start to look outside of
[38:20] sort of the city areas proper
city of lakeport
[38:24] city of
clear lake it becomes more challenging
[38:28] trying to figure out who becomes the
lead agency
[38:31] and how do you really fund that
definitely there's there's need i'll say
[38:35] coming from that region
you have the school district in that
[38:39] region you have other elements
but certainly from a less populated area
[38:43] you're talking about something or maybe
even two centers you know one in
[38:47] lakeport one in clear lake that really
drive folks uh from that south county
[38:52] area you know into the more populated
centers of either lake port or the city
[38:55] of cleveland
do you think it can be funded through a
[39:00] lighting and landscaping kind of
district
[39:04] mike you want to jump in
i think there are
[39:10] the short answer is can it yes
i think it has to do with how much
[39:15] undeveloped land use
currently exists in either of the just
[39:20] jurisdictions probably the more common
method today versus lighting landscape
[39:26] is like a community facility district
for service that can be used to fund
[39:30] capital
but typically the creating that
[39:34] assessment on
is usually typically on new properties
[39:38] otherwise you can do it you can
establish a community facility district
[39:43] but if it's on existing uh residential
property it would require uh voter
[39:48] approval um so it's possible that you
could do that
[39:52] but you know so somebody might you know
if you're gonna go to voter approval for
[39:56] something like that you would certainly
that would be
[39:59] certainly one right answer establishing
a
[40:02] overlaying community facility district
for service or capital to do that
[40:08] similarly you could um a jurisdiction
could do a bond measure um that um the
[40:14] either either on your own or in concert
with the other jurisdictions that you
[40:19] might be partnering with or or like
um you know the fort bragg and the city
[40:25] or menacing coast did a tax measure so
all of those then require voter approval
[40:36] established before any homes get built
is going to require the homeowners
[40:42] to approve that
[40:54] i
hope i answered that question
[40:58] how did you get involved in fort bragg
because my understanding it was
[41:04] not being used
um yeah i i got a call from both the um
[41:11] the city of fort bragg and the um
general manager of the mendocino coast
[41:16] recreation park district uh looking for
some help in evaluating uh how they
[41:22] could operate their center and pool
more cost effectively
[41:28] improve the overall cost recovery and
utilization
[41:32] but it was a uh kind of uh
early on it was involving both the city
[41:38] of fort bragg which
was contributing a substantial amount of
[41:42] money every year to offset the operating
cost so i ended up giving um
[41:47] to
two agencies
[41:50] in the final recommendations this was
really more of an operational analysis
[41:54] didn't have anything to do with building
it
[42:06] any other question
well we all know that uh
[42:11] the lakeport school district tried this
and it
[42:14] really turned out into a big disaster
uh both funding and this so i think we
[42:21] might have some hesitation on on this
this kind of issue
[42:27] yeah as i mentioned earlier um you know
that was that was something that was
[42:31] brought to our attention uh pretty
quickly
[42:34] um
and it's not uncommon
[42:37] you know school districts passing bonds
um you know identifying in a master plan
[42:41] or in a needs assessment that they have
you know sometimes three four five times
[42:45] the amount of need then they have you
know bonding capacity
[42:49] one of the things i will offer is that
you know a number of school districts
[42:53] last year
you know every two years in effect we
[42:56] have an opportunity for local school
districts to pursue general obligation
[43:00] bonds and so the last year was 2020 the
next year will be 2022.
[43:04] interesting and interestingly enough in
march of 2020
[43:09] bonds did not go that well
throughout the state and that was
[43:13] actually prior to covet
you know the
[43:17] the primaries were in march they were
early march so really kind of before
[43:21] everybody had a sense of what the
pandemic was going to do
[43:24] we had some you know talk of out of this
this outlying virus and and there was
[43:30] some if you recall some challenges to
the stock market at the time and i think
[43:34] the general settlement across the state
of california was
[43:38] that folks didn't want to to
pass
[43:41] local bonds for school districts
um fast forward to november of 2020
[43:47] and we had
at least for those school districts that
[43:49] went after bonds
nearly a record in terms of the pass
[43:54] rate um and and one of the reasons we
believe that that occurred was because
[43:58] of the fact that um you know schools
were considered essential um and we had
[44:03] folks uh you know depending on what no
matter what really the economy was doing
[44:08] really saying we need to support local
school districts and we need to pass
[44:11] dollars for them whether it be for
facilities or for other sorts of
[44:14] programs
so i think we're going to see a lot of
[44:17] school districts try and pursue bonds in
2022
[44:20] and i think there's an opportunity
certainly for cities like yourself
[44:24] and others to reach out and say you know
is there a possibility can i die like
[44:28] poor et cetera
to reconsider that and to also consider
[44:33] the need for something like this it
could be a true joint use opportunity
[44:37] natomas unified school district in
sacramento did that effectively they
[44:41] contributed
i think around two and a half million
[44:44] dollars now to that north natomas
project that we featured earlier and
[44:48] you know it really obviously goes back
to the sentiment the politics in your
[44:52] particular region um but uh you know
it's it's interesting how sort of these
[44:58] things ebb and flow and so the next
opportunity could be an opportunity in
[45:01] 2022
sounds like
[45:04] city of clear lake and your relationship
with your local school district is a bit
[45:08] better than perhaps what would happen
with lakeport
[45:12] but definitely that's an opportunity to
leverage when it comes to funds
[45:16] you know school districts can be one of
the
[45:19] bigger users certainly an aquatics
facility if not a recreational facility
[45:25] however
there is requirement to go through dsa
[45:28] when it comes to the approval process
and sometimes that dsa field act
[45:32] compliance can escalate the cost of a
project pretty rapidly you know mike has
[45:37] some experience in that in the city of
roseville with the joint using the
[45:39] agency
thank you
[45:43] anyways
yeah um so
[45:47] i mean some of this you know i figured
that we would talk about when we look at
[45:50] the site plan but you know
this whole process really started
[45:54] because of the situation that we're
talking about in lakeport and the fact
[45:58] that they were promised a pool and they
don't have one
[46:01] um and then
we got involved because some of the
[46:04] things that we were looking at um and i
think
[46:08] the timing's really good um while we
weren't involved from the beginning
[46:11] we're probably in a position to
see this sooner than what's going to
[46:16] happen in lakeport
because of the sports complex and
[46:21] you know the way we had initially looked
at design the focus of course was on
[46:25] the baseball fields and then being able
to add soccer
[46:29] and we had kind of set a little piece
off to the side to maybe do a rec center
[46:33] at some point in the future but
and going through this process and
[46:39] talking with our school superintendent
and some other organizations
[46:45] i really feel like that there's interest
and probably available funding there for
[46:50] us to do this
uh sooner than expected and
[46:54] so we we redid the design which we'll
talk about here in a minute to make a
[47:00] recreation center as part of this whole
project and a central part of it
[47:07] um
and so you know it is a big
[47:10] a big pot of money i mean we don't
really have room
[47:13] at the burns valley location to even
consider putting a pool in there
[47:18] um
our our school district doesn't see as
[47:21] much of a need for that
they want to have after-school programs
[47:25] for kids
and they think you know this type of a
[47:29] rec center would fulfill that need for a
significant period of time
[47:33] and so our thought is to
let lake pour
[47:38] folks on a pool if that's what they want
to do
[47:41] we do our sports complex and rec center
now
[47:45] and you know if if the community decides
that that they we really need a pool
[47:50] here that's something that we could do
kind of was a
[47:53] next phase project um
somewhere else within the city so
[47:58] really what we want from the council
tonight is
[48:01] you know that you kind of like the
direction this is going and you're
[48:04] supportive of moving into phase two i
mean i think the timing of what brian's
[48:09] talking about will work perfectly
with the master planning process that
[48:13] we're in the middle of for the whole
complex right now
[48:16] um and these guys are you know experts
in the rec center piece and maybe you
[48:20] know they can handle that portion of the
project
[48:23] um while we uh
you know we'll obviously be engaged but
[48:28] you know kind of our design team's
focus will be on on the sports complex
[48:33] which you know we want to make sure and
get that done you know as soon as
[48:36] possible so
um
[48:39] you know the the three entities the two
cities and the county
[48:43] um supported the phase one portion of
the project financially
[48:49] we haven't come up with a plan at this
point on the second phase
[48:53] i'm sure that we would need to to put
some funding in but we had also planned
[48:58] to ask the larger group of partners to
participate financially in the phase two
[49:02] if the three jurisdictions supported
moving in that direction
[49:10] but to be clear the baseball field
soccer field portion of it
[49:14] is as a project that we're going to go
forward with
[49:19] the rec center is something that sounds
good and we definitely want to look for
[49:23] the so your group would take care of the
rec center
[49:26] uh
brian well i mean yeah i mean that's
[49:30] kind of what i was thinking right i mean
we it's important when we do the complex
[49:35] to make sure we have
the spot for the rec center in there but
[49:39] i think
um
[49:41] and you know i i really think that we
will end up being pretty close to having
[49:46] the funding to be able to
to make it happen um but from my
[49:51] perspective
phase one is the
[49:55] the ball fields right um and as long as
we have the spot there we could always
[50:00] bring that up you know a little bit
later as we put all the pieces together
[50:03] obviously it takes a lot of years to
actually put it all together
[50:09] but we were gonna we don't like taking
[50:22] is needed in that area so i think it's a
great idea to put it all together
[50:27] yeah i concur and i think this
community's been asking for a pool for a
[50:31] long time
since they built that center
[50:34] the community center was supposed to be
right but um just to finish i'd like to
[50:39] see us go forward at least with the
planning phase and settings
[50:42] room aside for it
for the rec center for the record yes
[50:47] that's
what i'd agree with move forward phase
[50:50] one and plan for phase two
and just to be clear
[50:55] and just to be clear you said we're
close on on funding that's without a
[50:58] bond or any type of assessment correct
yeah i mean you know
[51:03] it's it's helping us out and
you know maybe we should just start kind
[51:07] of transitioning into talking about um
[51:12] the
the site plan a little bit but because
[51:15] of all the the kind of mixed use
nature of the burns valley project in
[51:21] general you know it provides us the
opportunity to leverage a lot of other
[51:25] funds
um
[51:28] but yeah i feel like that really we're
we're not going to be too far off on
[51:34] on being able to fund the whole complex
and the rec center
[51:42] okay
[51:45] you're going to pull that yeah so i'm
going to pull this up
[51:48] um and
[51:52] let me let me zoom out slightly
just to give you all some context so we
[51:56] have olympic drive down here on the
bottom
[51:59] uh burns valley road here
that that comes around to the north this
[52:03] is the safeway
complex so
[52:08] um you know this is a
31 acre property that the city purchased
[52:13] in december
and there's you know i mentioned mixed
[52:16] use there's several components
[Music]
[52:22] to this i'm going to start over here
with um
[52:25] this section which is
will be for new public works yard
[52:31] this is a public works yard shop in
addition there's some
[52:35] space here for the police department for
evidence storage and
[52:40] vehicle processing
which is needed in certain crimes
[52:45] and so this area would be fenced and
lighted
[52:49] storage back here for
vehicles that are towed and so forth
[52:53] material storage equipment storage
all that
[52:58] and so
there would be a new roadway installed
[53:02] on this hundred foot property that's
between the pg e public works or
[53:06] corporation yard and the burns valley
mall complex
[53:10] so this would include a roadway into the
site
[53:15] some parking and then this is the
location of the mudslingers kiosk where
[53:20] the council approved that um
that coffee
[53:25] building so we'd be we have a lease
agreement in place for them
[53:29] which should be kind of a nice amenity
to sort of be part of the part of the
[53:32] park
um
[53:38] the corporation yard gets funded
differently
[53:40] yeah so that's a different part of
funding so the plan is we're working on
[53:44] the design um
of
[53:49] the the plan is to do this section here
into the site this section of roadway
[53:55] the fencing
the light the sight lighting and all the
[54:00] utilities for the complex um
this year yet
[54:05] and
as long as
[54:09] as long as mr schwartz
[54:18] there's no reason that's not going to
happen right dave
[54:25] um and then the the rest of this project
would um start
[54:31] um at some time next year
along with the the housing component
[54:37] so um
the rest of the site
[54:41] i'll just kind of start from i keep
getting my zoom things and dragging them
[54:45] around instead of
um so we'll just start here on the west
[54:48] and work back to the east so this is a
um a soccer field
[54:54] um this is depressed with a little berm
around here to keep balls from flying
[54:58] out into the
street as much as possible we do have a
[55:03] lot of room and we worked with um you
know our partners with the the soccer
[55:08] league and so forth and i won't take the
time to pull it up but now but there's
[55:12] the ability to have
as many as eight to ten different games
[55:16] going in this area depending on
the
[55:20] [Music]
size of the fields and
[55:23] they're really comfortable with the size
that we have here
[55:27] we are hopeful at some point in the
future we'll be able to expand the
[55:30] soccer amenities into another
nearby area but um
[55:35] so we have a you know large parking area
here um drop-off zones and whatnot
[55:41] there's area for
tour buses for um our little league and
[55:46] soccer tournaments to be able to drop
folks off
[55:50] this this is very rough but this is a
general location where we'd expect the
[55:55] rec center to be located we haven't
really focused much on design but the 15
[56:00] 000 square foot footprint
and then additional space here the idea
[56:05] is to
combine and allow bathrooms for the
[56:09] complex to be
accessible from the outside so that you
[56:13] know nothing was happening in the rec
center
[56:16] there's still some games going on
outside it's just a way to be able to
[56:20] cut the the costs
for developing the site
[56:25] and then so we have two of the smaller
fields here and then the large baseball
[56:31] field over in this area we have
additional parking
[56:34] um here and here
what you see here is a lot of
[56:38] extra space that we haven't detailed out
yet some of this
[56:42] would be designated for a t-ball field
um
[56:46] for the little guys and then there's
plenty of room we intend to have
[56:51] playground equipment
and some other amenities so you know
[56:55] when the family's there everyone has
something to to keep them entertained
[57:00] these designs include
you know announcer's booths batting
[57:05] cages
bleachers plenty of warm-up area
[57:11] and then of course a road all the way
through the site here
[57:14] um and then the housing development um
which is in the process up here which is
[57:20] 80 units of mixed income
family housing
[57:24] what we've been able to do partnering
with them is
[57:27] um
funding this is about a 50 million
[57:30] dollar project and their funding we've
connected
[57:34] um directly into the forest complex and
so some of the funding that they're
[57:39] going to be pulling down we'll be able
to use actually for
[57:43] installing all this infrastructure
at the site which is going to help
[57:48] you know keep the
the costs you know the other funding
[57:51] sources that we need down which which is
going to be really nice
[57:55] um
so that's kind of the super quick
[57:58] overview and um
try to address any questions
[58:03] that the the council has
about the plan
[58:12] i want to thank um
the ladies from little league and uh
[58:15] where is george soccer
yeah he's not here
[58:19] thanks for watching with us
[58:33] these fields would all be
[58:44] so when it's not baseball season can
these be used for other sports
[58:50] i don't know why not i mean i know we're
gonna be playing all year round
[58:58] being more competitive when we travel
therefore we need to have baseball
[59:09] the outfields could be used for like the
five-year-old soccer games could be set
[59:14] up in the outfields yes
we have
[59:45] pretty much when they're using the
facilities in middletown
[59:49] i've been here for 35 plus years i
played soccer and baseball
[59:53] all the way through high school i played
on these same fields we play on right
[59:56] now with baseball and i did the same
thing as a kid traveling in middle of
[59:59] town so i definitely and i have three
sons
[1:00:02] so i totally understand we need to have
more stuff in town so i'm totally not
[1:00:06] against ever letting anybody help you
[1:00:12] well anybody else in the comments from
the audience here
[1:00:20] awesome
[1:00:23] yeah i just had a i had a question are
these designs final are we gonna do a
[1:00:27] public hearing at some point
[1:00:30] well
um i guess that's up to the council i
[1:00:34] mean we normally don't do a public
hearing on the designs um
[1:00:38] the i mean well i should i should take
that back we we plan to apply for a
[1:00:44] state parks grant
for a portion of this project which
[1:00:49] is due i think in november of this year
so
[1:00:52] um we have an agreement with a great the
same grant writing team that we worked
[1:00:57] with for the highlands park project
which we still don't know is funded or
[1:01:01] not yet but
that the requirements of that grant will
[1:01:06] include
a number of public meetings like we had
[1:01:09] for highlands park
um you know as a requirement so we've
[1:01:14] been working trying to get all this
stuff
[1:01:16] uh sort of sorted out and we've been you
know using our city engineer and his
[1:01:20] team so that we can start on the main
infrastructure and the public works
[1:01:24] piece of it
we will be using a landscape architect
[1:01:30] as part of the grant process to further
refine some of these points of the plan
[1:01:35] like i mentioned the t-ball thing and
the playground equipment some of those
[1:01:40] other site amenities um you know if dave
had his way everything would be concrete
[1:01:45] and asphalt so
um we need to we need to bring someone
[1:01:49] else in to help help us with that
[1:01:55] so there will be there will be a number
of opportunities for the public to
[1:02:00] review and provide input on the plan yes
so that will be a planning commission
[1:02:06] item
uh normally we don't do a planning
[1:02:09] commission item for that but i mean you
know we could if you would like us to
[1:02:15] i think there's more people coming out
when you have something noticed that
[1:02:19] well like the public meeting meetings
are doing
[1:02:22] this part
you know i mean what what the council
[1:02:25] directed was creating this committee to
work with which is what we've been doing
[1:02:28] but you know i know that there's a lot
of interest in this project and we need
[1:02:33] some ways to bring in
whatever you think is the right way to
[1:02:37] do it council can give us additional
direction on how you want us to do that
[1:02:41] all right
i do think that we should have an
[1:02:44] opportunity for folks outside of the
committee to weigh in
[1:02:47] the other question i had was around the
soccer field i know i had brought this
[1:02:52] up but i i don't know if it was
discussed in the committee
[1:02:55] a grass field versus a turf field and if
that was considered
[1:03:01] currently we're planning turf on the
soccer field you are okay excellent yes
[1:03:07] all right that's good
[1:03:10] all right even though
even though cancer probably caused a
[1:03:13] high rate answered
i think we're workshop is over
[1:03:20] and we'll take a couple minute breaks a
couple of minutes break to
[1:03:23] get a council meeting going
so
[1:07:22] test
[1:08:05] i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america and to the
[1:08:10] republic for which it stands one nation
under god indivisible with liberty just
[1:08:17] for all right
[1:08:21] yes sir
sir
[1:08:24] father in heaven we ask that you would
join with us tonight that your spirit
[1:08:27] would lead and guide us to do the good
business for this city
[1:08:32] we may be able to be able to better
serve our community and the guests who
[1:08:36] come to visit us whether we ask a
special blessing to be on the staff and
[1:08:42] families who live here
they may be prosperous and have
[1:08:47] safety in their travels
whether we ask for this all in your
[1:08:50] son's holy name amen amen
[1:08:54] all right
[1:09:00] see the adoption of the agenda are there
any changes to the agenda
[1:09:04] no changes mr mayor make a motion to
adopt the agenda is submitted no second
[1:09:09] time we have a motion by vice mayor
burdock in a second by
[1:09:12] mr kramer all in favor aye aye aye
[1:09:18] all right we'll go to presentations
number two presentations of july
[1:09:22] adoptable dogs
[1:09:27] good evening mayor members of the
council unfortunately tonight we do not
[1:09:30] have a
we have dogs available we did not have
[1:09:33] staffing to um bring one in for the
meeting tonight um however i'm gonna go
[1:09:36] over the stats real quick um
so far this year we've taken a 194 dogs
[1:09:41] into the shelter uh 192 have left the
shelter 104 have gone to rescue 60 have
[1:09:47] been returned to the owners 21 have been
adopted
[1:09:50] six have been euthanized and we have the
ones still on here that escaped um so
[1:09:55] our live release rate is still pretty
good we're down a tiny bit but we're at
[1:09:59] 96.9 percent so we're still doing really
good and hopefully we'll keep that up
[1:10:04] for the rest of the year can you say
something about an escape
[1:10:08] yeah oh that one's been there for a
couple months but yeah we had one
[1:10:11] a while back um he was able to get out
of his cage inside the new building and
[1:10:15] then when he got out he found a window
that was a couple inches open he pushed
[1:10:18] the window up
then he pushed the screen off went out
[1:10:21] to
the door and where he went out is a
[1:10:24] fenced in area that has the building on
one side and then has
[1:10:27] that probably eight foot fence on the
other side and he dug a hole and then
[1:10:31] came out on the airport road and
disappeared industrious dog we got him
[1:10:34] back later but
um i think i think he had help but yeah
[1:10:38] but he
he wanted some freedom for a little bit
[1:10:42] all right thank you very much
all right let's go to number three
[1:10:47] presentation of the regional
transportation plan
[1:10:50] uh mr alford who is doing that today
[1:10:56] uh is miss bates going to be presenting
okay
[1:11:00] lisa
[1:11:04] here us
hello
[1:11:08] there she is
[1:11:12] let us start our video sorry
yes we can hear you late
[1:11:16] we're getting rummy okay quick hi hi hi
uh
[1:11:20] john spka and this is lisa david bates
we're with the
[1:11:24] lake area planning council the regional
transportation planning agency
[1:11:29] for this region of which um
your council members
[1:11:33] herdock and kramer are on our board
we just want to give a quick
[1:11:37] presentation of our upcoming regional
transportation plan we're
[1:11:42] still seeking uh public input
and we have a social pin a social
[1:11:48] pinpoint website
that has a bunch of interactive
[1:11:52] activities that
you can leave comments and such on but
[1:11:56] we're going to give a short presentation
um it's about eight minutes long and it
[1:12:01] will it'll explain what the regional
transportation plan is and how you can
[1:12:06] provide feedback
uh
[1:12:11] let me see do we have access to uh or do
we have permission to share here you
[1:12:16] should
[1:12:26] okay so here is the presentation
[Music]
[1:12:31] welcome to a brief presentation of the
20
[1:12:34] make sure hold on i just want to make
sure
[1:12:37] you could hear that could everyone hear
that 22 regional transportation plan and
[1:12:42] active transportation plan update
both plans are being prepared by the
[1:12:47] lake area planning council which serves
as the regional transportation planning
[1:12:51] agency for the lake county region
[1:12:56] the lake apc board is made up of two
county supervisors from the county of
[1:13:00] lake and two city council members from
each of its two incorporated cities the
[1:13:04] city of lake port and the city of clear
lake
[1:13:07] two at-large members are also appointed
to serve as directors rounding out the
[1:13:11] board's eight-person makeup
the primary advisory bodies for the lake
[1:13:15] apc include the technical advisory
committee which consists of public works
[1:13:19] and community development officials from
each of the three jurisdictions as well
[1:13:24] as representatives from the california
highway patrol the lake transit
[1:13:27] authority and the caltrans district one
office
[1:13:30] the second important advisory body to
the area planning council is the social
[1:13:34] services transportation advisory council
this group advises on matters involving
[1:13:40] transit dependent individuals within the
region including the elderly disabled
[1:13:44] and persons of the limited means
additional duties of the lake area
[1:13:48] planning council include the
administration of the call box program
[1:13:52] otherwise known as the lake service
authority for freeway emergencies
[1:13:56] and finally lake abc council members
also serve a separate role as the board
[1:14:00] for the lake transit authority
[1:14:04] the primary function of the lake apc is
to allocate federal and state
[1:14:08] transportation funds to projects within
the lake county region
[1:14:12] funding is derived from a variety of
state and federal programs each having
[1:14:15] separate goals addressing public needs
ranging from road safety to greenhouse
[1:14:20] gas emissions reduction to the promotion
of healthy lifestyles through active
[1:14:24] forms of transportation like walking or
biking like abc also assists regional
[1:14:30] and local agencies including public
works departments of the county and
[1:14:33] cities as well as the region's transit
agency in identifying or applying for
[1:14:38] potential funds for priority projects
these can often be time-consuming
[1:14:42] processes especially for staffs with
local agencies that might lack the
[1:14:46] resources or time to compete for such
funds
[1:14:50] finally as the regional transportation
planning agency the lake apc is tasked
[1:14:55] with preparing the region's long-range
transportation planning document
[1:14:59] this regional transportation plan helps
guide the decision-making process by
[1:15:04] setting long-range transportation goals
for the region
[1:15:11] so what is the regional transportation
plan
[1:15:14] as noted it is the area's long-range
planning document for all forms of
[1:15:17] transportation throughout lake county
and its cities
[1:15:21] it covers a 20-year horizon and is
updated every four years to reflect
[1:15:25] changing conditions in the region over
time
[1:15:28] its main purpose is to promote safe and
efficient transportation for the
[1:15:32] movement of people and goods throughout
the region
[1:15:35] examples of this are found in projects
improving unsafe road conditions or
[1:15:39] dangerous intersection crosswalks
or else reducing congestion to improve
[1:15:44] trekking delivery routes
basically anything that helps to connect
[1:15:48] community members with areas both within
or outside of their immediate
[1:15:51] surroundings
land includes all transportation modes
[1:15:55] in lake county such as highways streets
and roads transit services pedestrian
[1:16:00] facilities and bicycle lanes among
others
[1:16:06] update process also covers an update to
the active transportation plan
[1:16:10] so what is the active transportation
plan
[1:16:13] this is a plan that focuses on improving
and integrating bicycle and pedestrian
[1:16:17] networks throughout the region
essentially it is a focused form of
[1:16:21] transportation that deals with
non-motorized or active transportation
[1:16:27] projects within the active
transportation plan are eligible to
[1:16:29] apply for grants under a specific state
program known as the active
[1:16:33] transportation program
this is a highly competitive grant
[1:16:37] program that rewards well-planned
high-priority projects which are
[1:16:40] evaluated as part of the active
transportation plan
[1:16:44] lake county adopted its first active
transportation plan in 2016.
[1:16:49] prior to that the regional
transportation plan would normally
[1:16:52] include a section or element that
covered non-motorized forms of
[1:16:56] transportation
for the previous rtp update in 2017 it
[1:17:01] was decided that the 2016 active
transportation plan
[1:17:06] would now serve as that component of the
rtp and both plans will be updated in
[1:17:10] conjunction from that point on
the active transportation plan therefore
[1:17:14] serves two purposes one as the
non-motorized element and also as a
[1:17:19] stand-alone document for projects that
can potentially be funded by future
[1:17:23] rounds of the active transportation
program
[1:17:27] identifying needs and priorities for the
region is a big part of either plan
[1:17:31] there are plenty of needs to choose from
for each transportation mode whether
[1:17:35] they are on state highways or local
roads or serve bicycle and pedestrian
[1:17:40] purposes or public transit
etc identifying those needs is important
[1:17:46] but prioritizing maybe even more so
this is done by soliciting feedback from
[1:17:50] local public works departments state
agencies tribal governments and your
[1:17:56] voices from the general public to
determine how the next 20 years worth of
[1:17:59] improvements should unfold
prioritizing is especially important
[1:18:04] because there are far more needs than
available funding can accommodate
[1:18:07] the rtp seeks to guide how these limited
dollars should be spent
[1:18:12] the process will look something like
this
[1:18:14] from now through the summer we will be
seeking public input to help guide the
[1:18:18] update
by mid-spring we will have an idea of
[1:18:21] the local and regional needs and how
important they'll be in meeting the
[1:18:24] overall transportation goals of the
region
[1:18:27] a draft of the updated regional
transportation plan and active
[1:18:30] transportation plan as well as the
environmental review documents for each
[1:18:35] should be posted by late summer
there will be a comment period specified
[1:18:39] for the documents at that time as well
finally we expect to present a final
[1:18:43] draft to the board of the lake area
planning council by the end of the fall
[1:18:48] these will be publicly noticed meetings
where additional comments can be made by
[1:18:51] the public along with those of the area
planning council board prior to the plan
[1:18:56] of adoption
[1:18:59] again we want to stress that your voice
is important to this process
[1:19:03] transportation needs and issues that you
bring up will be evaluated as part of
[1:19:07] the regional transportation plan and
this will ultimately guide what the
[1:19:10] final plan will look like
whether it's road safety or sidewalk
[1:19:14] accessibility or transit system
improvements or any barriers that make
[1:19:19] different forms of transportation more
difficult in your local community we
[1:19:23] want to know
so please make your voices heard
[1:19:29] here are the best ways to provide input
you can go to the website for the update
[1:19:33] project which can be accessed at the web
address in red
[1:19:37] the site is interactive and will allow
you to provide comments on maps in which
[1:19:41] you can pin written comments at specific
locations within your community or the
[1:19:46] region as a whole
it will also include surveys and budget
[1:19:49] exercises
where you give us your feedback on where
[1:19:52] your concerns lie or which projects you
believe aren't the most funding
[1:19:56] or feel free to email or write letters
to staff myself john spika senior
[1:20:02] transportation planner at the email
address in red
[1:20:05] or else at the physical mailing address
below that
[1:20:08] lake area planning council 525 south
main street suite g ukaya california
[1:20:17] we 95482
forward to hearing from you and thank
[1:20:19] you for participating
[1:20:26] okay so um yeah
hopefully if that was clear enough for
[1:20:32] you all to hear and such
but the
[1:20:35] main idea again is is we've like as much
public input as we can get on
[1:20:41] the plan
and
[1:20:44] the website that we are referring to is
um seen here
[1:20:49] i just wanted to show you a couple of
the features of the website um
[1:20:54] and presentations there
uh that we just saw
[1:20:58] there's uh if you scroll down there's
the interactive activities including say
[1:21:02] the interactive map
which
[1:21:06] by clicking on
you'll
[1:21:09] see
you could scroll in
[1:21:13] for instance
[1:21:18] your city and you could go to whatever
intersection or
[1:21:22] you know any other area that you think
deserves some attention as far as some
[1:21:27] type of transportation activity
again sidewalks or road improvements or
[1:21:33] whatnot
and then by clicking on it
[1:21:37] you are clicking up here i'm sorry you
could
[1:21:40] say what type of project you're after or
you're most interested in you can leave
[1:21:44] an actual comment there
um that will show up on the map and we
[1:21:48] could gather those towards the end
[Music]
[1:21:54] um there's also a survey by clicking on
and it kind of just gives an overview of
[1:22:02] where the comments are coming from or
the location for where the queen new
[1:22:06] members live
you know age and some
[1:22:08] standard demographic information
and what type of you know transportation
[1:22:14] is is
most used um
[1:22:17] or you know those types of questions
so that would um again give us some
[1:22:24] insight as to where
we should focus
[1:22:27] um and then finally there's these two
budget exercises on the right side uh
[1:22:32] each from
one's for the regional transportation
[1:22:35] plan budget
and uh it you just get an idea of you
[1:22:39] could go down this list of different
types of projects
[1:22:43] and
you start with a hundred dollars and you
[1:22:46] spend your way down to zero
um
[1:22:49] you know
just kind of it gives you an idea of
[1:22:53] what you have left and actually
fortunately it goes beyond a hundred so
[1:22:59] you have to be cognizant of uh
where to stop
[1:23:03] um
there's that one and then there's a
[1:23:05] second one
that gives uh active transportation
[1:23:10] projects that are really more specific
to walking or biking type projects and
[1:23:15] what uh you know the specific projects
that you would think deserve
[1:23:20] specific amounts of funding or you know
in proportion to the hundred dollars the
[1:23:24] same idea for
as the last one
[1:23:29] so that is our quick little spiel here
and um
[1:23:33] happy to answer any questions that you
might have um again we're trying to get
[1:23:38] the word out as much as possible
too and that's
[1:23:42] our presentation here and to other uh
organizations and groups
[1:23:46] so uh
[1:23:50] any questions
[1:23:53] just a quick question would will these
be linked to the city and county
[1:23:57] websites for people who may be
navigating those
[1:24:02] uh we
we could do that in fact that probably
[1:24:07] make it simpler which is always good
um
[1:24:11] i could contact would it be melissa with
the city to see if i could get that up
[1:24:17] on the city website
sounds like a perfect idea john
[1:24:22] i believe that it's correct
[1:24:26] and or you can just
type in lake apc and uh you know you'll
[1:24:31] see this on the home page it's fairly
easy to find
[1:24:36] stop sharing the screen
unless anybody has any questions uh
[1:24:41] specific to the
interactive activities that we just
[1:24:44] showed you
[1:24:48] i don't have any additional ones
no questions
[1:24:53] no questions from the council
thank you appreciate it okay we
[1:24:57] appreciate appreciate the chance to give
you the presentation thanks a lot
[1:25:01] thank you thanks john lisa
thanks thank you very soon
[1:25:07] we go to item number four presentation
about cyanobacteria outreach work group
[1:25:12] well looks like there's some people in
the audience that
[1:25:15] would like to talk about us
[1:25:19] way smarter than me
[1:25:24] do you have anything that you want to
put on the screen too we have some
[1:25:27] presenters that are on zoom and denise
pomeroy from public health has a
[1:25:31] presentation to share press their kids
okay cool
[1:25:34] welcome denise
hi good evening city council of clear
[1:25:37] lake i appreciate the opportunity
to present with you tonight
[1:25:42] um i'm gonna try to share my screen and
plug our presentation i think we have it
[1:25:48] down to about 15 minutes
so
[1:25:52] hopefully this is going to work
so we all are in this electronic system
[1:25:57] area
[1:26:02] see
all right can you see my screen
[1:26:08] yes yes we can
all right so
[1:26:12] uh lake county cyanobacteria
communication work group this is a
[1:26:16] multi-agency update
to um that we're going around to giving
[1:26:20] both to the cities and the county
um back in july of 2017 and again in
[1:26:26] 2018 the board of supervisors for the
county directed staff to establish a
[1:26:32] county-wide strategy and incorporate the
cities and community partners for a
[1:26:36] long-term all-sector approach to
cyanohab
[1:26:40] systems factual and consent messaging to
businesses and general public on
[1:26:45] have related issues
this has been a very good collaboration
[1:26:51] between both cities
county and some of our tribal partners
[1:26:59] um following up from our prior year's um
board of supervisors recommendation the
[1:27:04] county developed uniform education about
cyanobacteria
[1:27:09] um the last couple of years
the work group
[1:27:13] which is both cities county and
our tribal partners uh water resources
[1:27:20] and
special districts environmental health
[1:27:23] have been working on um
the potential impacts the progress the
[1:27:29] current lake conditions and uniformed
messaging to not only just our community
[1:27:35] but to the the wide variety of
communities that visits lake counties
[1:27:43] we've moved from a reactive mode to a
proactive mode and we
[1:27:49] work hard to communicate to all the
sectors that are impacted
[1:27:53] uniformed and communications addressed
through social media and other avenues
[1:28:00] have been a huge success
for our communications out to the public
[1:28:06] regarding these challenges
[1:28:10] so i'm going to let angela take it from
here on what is cyanobacteria
[1:28:17] thank you very much for having me today
i'm angela de palmadao i'm in water
[1:28:20] resources i'm a program coordinator over
there for county blake
[1:28:24] so cyanobacteria even though they're
sometimes confused as an algae they are
[1:28:28] a bacteria they photosynthesize so they
do convert co2 from the air into oxygen
[1:28:34] that goes both into the air and the
water they're very old they've been here
[1:28:37] in clear lake for thousands of years
and
[1:28:41] the same conditions that promote
cyanobacteria warm weather still calm
[1:28:46] shallow waters and nutrient waters are
the same things that promote the green
[1:28:50] algae which is different than
cyanobacteria and that's why we have a
[1:28:54] world-class fishery here we have a
really productive waters and all those
[1:28:59] factors that promote the green algae
which feed our fish
[1:29:03] and promote our industry our fishing
industry are also the same things that
[1:29:06] promote cyanobacteria blooms that we
have in the lake um and so even though
[1:29:10] we care these things are both important
to us they're just in different ways and
[1:29:14] they're both driven by the same factors
next slide
[1:29:18] so what makes a harmful algal bloom
harmful and again that's not an algae
[1:29:21] we're talking about cyanobacteria so
when there's an over abundance of
[1:29:26] favorable conditions just like right now
it's warm we have a lot of nutrients
[1:29:30] you're going to get a big abundant bloom
growth of the cyanobacteria and they can
[1:29:34] produce toxins some of the strains can
produce toxins not all of them and we
[1:29:38] really don't know what specifically
promotes the toxins to be there they
[1:29:42] don't all produce the same toxins at the
same time in the same amounts
[1:29:46] but
some of them do produce the toxins and
[1:29:49] just because there's a bloom present
doesn't necessarily mean that there's
[1:29:52] going to be toxins of a certain level
and same thing there could be no bloom
[1:29:56] present you might have some toxins if
you have some of the strain present that
[1:30:00] does produce the toxins so we really
rely on that monitoring data to be able
[1:30:04] to tell us if they're toxin present and
is there not and what level is it and is
[1:30:08] it of a health hazard level concern
[1:30:13] so we want to thank all of our
stakeholders who work
[1:30:17] on this project with us and who's been a
collaborative partner for the last
[1:30:22] four years or so um collectively the
team has developed and had consensus on
[1:30:27] all the work that we've completed to
date
[1:30:31] we definitely clarify that these are
work group participants but everyone who
[1:30:36] lives
or visits lake county is a stakeholder
[1:30:40] they have a voice or should have a voice
in our lake it's our biggest asset among
[1:30:47] our people
in lake county
[1:30:53] sarah
[1:30:56] hi good evening sarah ryan the big
valley band of pomo indians
[1:31:00] environmental director i have spoken
before
[1:31:03] you guys before on cyanobacteria and
cyanotoxins in our program so it's great
[1:31:08] to be a part of
a collaborative effort of the county and
[1:31:12] the cities and other stakeholders in
terms of communicating these results
[1:31:18] as well as the conditions of the lake
so
[1:31:21] as you probably know and you've heard
that cyanobacteria is not just happening
[1:31:24] on clear lakes cyanotoxins are not just
on clear lake they are
[1:31:28] throughout the world
of course what affects us most is what's
[1:31:32] here so having blooms here and having
toxins here is is concerning but it is
[1:31:37] something that even back in the 1990s
the world health organization developed
[1:31:42] standards for exposures to cyanotoxins
the state of california took a while to
[1:31:47] get to those standards they're still not
full standards but there are
[1:31:51] recommendations for exposures for both
drinking water and recreation us epa has
[1:31:57] also just recently finalized standards
for recreational exposure to cyanotoxins
[1:32:02] but it is a worldwide problem if we can
move to the next slide please
[1:32:08] in california
and on there is a very small map but if
[1:32:12] you go to mywaterquality.gov
and look under habs harmful algal blooms
[1:32:17] you'll see a map that has the most
recent results not just from clear lake
[1:32:21] but from all of the water bodies in
california where there are
[1:32:24] where there's cyanotoxin monitoring
going on clear lake is the most
[1:32:28] monitored lake in california thanks to
the tribes um maybe some some people
[1:32:32] don't thank the tribes for that but uh
you know there's a lot of uses of clear
[1:32:37] lake and so it's really important to
know what the toxin levels are so we
[1:32:40] know which areas should be avoided and
which areas are are just fine so
[1:32:46] the on that my water quality.gov you can
see on the map
[1:32:49] it is updated on a regular basis with
the toxin results and you can go and so
[1:32:55] people are saying what about clear lake
you can always look at some of the other
[1:32:58] water bodies in california that are
being tested and what their levels are
[1:33:02] and there's plenty of other water bodies
with danger levels
[1:33:05] and usually on clear lake we might have
some danger levels and other levels will
[1:33:08] be
below caution it's not even a problem at
[1:33:11] all so we like to make sure that people
understand that as well
[1:33:15] next slide please
[Music]
[1:33:18] moving to scott
i am scott horner with lake county
[1:33:22] special districts uh there is a list of
potential impacts there i'm going to
[1:33:26] speak to the the water utility there's a
direct correlation between the have
[1:33:30] blooms and the increase in cost in
producing water
[1:33:33] there's increased chemical costs there's
increased backwash filter frequency
[1:33:37] there's increased operation time there's
increased operators time and then
[1:33:41] there's the testing and sampling
costs that that are associated with it
[1:33:45] and what this leads to is that the
citizens and customers that around the
[1:33:50] lake whose water utility pulls their
water from clear lake are paying a
[1:33:53] higher percentage of their monthly uh
gross income to pay for water than our
[1:33:58] similar surface water producers
throughout the the state so there's a
[1:34:02] there's an impact here for the citizens
here and every one of those communities
[1:34:07] that's being served by the lake is a
disadvantaged community so there's kind
[1:34:10] of a double whammy there
[1:34:15] so the emphasis that people have
different reactions to cyanotax and just
[1:34:20] very much like allergies that you would
have um some people have no reaction um
[1:34:26] some people have a very sick severe
reaction some people get a skin rash
[1:34:32] some people especially animals um like
dogs and and
[1:34:38] other pets especially livestock and
stuff can have a much bigger reaction
[1:34:43] they're smaller plus they tend to get in
the water or or pull the water with open
[1:34:49] mouth so they actually
ingest the cyanotoxins
[1:34:54] these reactions
vary greatly from a small rash to
[1:34:58] neurological issues
um we have no actual um
[1:35:05] so some of the surveillance for human
and veterinary health impacts are you
[1:35:09] know we don't have a lot of testing
available
[1:35:13] that can confirm
actual cyanotoxins to health and animals
[1:35:18] the tests on animals are usually
postmortem
[1:35:23] and they take actual liver and kidney
and internal
[1:35:27] biopsies and test it for certain toxins
um and then humans there there really is
[1:35:33] none it's it's very much a
medical puzzle as to
[1:35:38] what you were doing when you were doing
it and
[1:35:41] how that works there's a very big piece
of under reporting
[1:35:46] people
swim they don't connect that they were
[1:35:49] swimming in an actual body of water or
recreating
[1:35:53] boating fishing whatever um and they
just think that they have you know
[1:36:00] some type of rash or
or symptom so we really do
[1:36:05] do a lot of messaging with our
physicians and our veterinarians around
[1:36:10] the clinics the ed rooms um to educate
the physicians and the clinicians and
[1:36:16] the veterinarians on the symptoms
of cyanobacteria and cyanotoxins in
[1:36:22] humans and in animals
so far this summer we don't have any
[1:36:27] confirmed cases but we have had received
a few complaints um two for animals and
[1:36:34] um two for different for humans that um
we've not been able to
[1:36:41] [Music]
[1:36:44] completely be confident that it was
related to xiaomi toxins but we do have
[1:36:49] an investigation process that we do at
the health department with the with the
[1:36:53] collaboration of the tribes and testing
and the state
[1:36:58] to see if we can make a match
um there are here in this slide there
[1:37:05] are definitely symptoms
it can be from a skin rash which is hard
[1:37:11] because you also have swimmers itch and
other things that can happen
[1:37:16] um in summer and
recreation activities out hiking and
[1:37:20] stuff but um you know they can be
anywhere from a mild rash all the way up
[1:37:25] to neurological symptoms
and animals we have had a couple of
[1:37:31] confirmed
dog deaths related to cyanotax and
[1:37:36] cyanotoxins over the past four or five
years
[1:37:42] um this is a mutual effort
on surveillance and it is a
[1:37:47] collaborative project
between the effort and investigation
[1:37:51] between the parties uh
we have water resources big valley
[1:37:57] public health environmental health
regional water boards we send out
[1:38:01] letters press releases cdc surveillance
and public service announcement
[1:38:08] we
get referrals on a regular basis
[1:38:12] of possible
symptoms and reactions to the water and
[1:38:17] our department along with our
partners
[1:38:21] um thank you everyone who partners with
us um do a complete and full
[1:38:26] investigation on every complaint or case
we get
[1:38:30] [Music]
sarah
[1:38:37] just to follow up on the on the
investigations i mean there is some
[1:38:40] funding that has come to big valley to
be able to
[1:38:45] go take the samples and also send it off
to the lab we don't have to pay for that
[1:38:50] and that does happen whenever there is a
suspected dog or animal illness
[1:38:55] so the another part of the program is
the signage and you have probably seen
[1:39:00] those signs online
also posted
[1:39:04] at various areas and these are signs
that were created by the state water
[1:39:09] resources control board and specifically
the the people who are working on
[1:39:14] cyanotoxins and cyanobacteria so they've
been able to because of a toxicological
[1:39:19] study on cyanotoxins that was done in uh
i believe 2014 by the state
[1:39:25] there are caution warning endangered
trigger levels uh based on the toxin
[1:39:29] results that they uh recommend that
certain
[1:39:34] activities do not occur anymore so for
caution there's uh at that level you can
[1:39:39] still swim in the area you want to avoid
a mat or a bloom
[1:39:44] but you don't want to eat any shellfish
from that area there are shellfish in
[1:39:47] this lake so you don't want to eat
shellfish because it accumulates
[1:39:50] but
at the warning level
[1:39:53] there are more restrictions in terms of
letting dogs swim in there having
[1:39:57] children play in there and at the danger
level you actually want to avoid it even
[1:40:00] in terms of boating because one of the
ways that you can be exposed to
[1:40:03] cyanotoxins is through the um the mist
and inhalation of the irritabilization
[1:40:08] of the toxins so these signs are there
to
[1:40:12] inform the public you see those icons of
the activities um to inform the public
[1:40:17] about what you can't what's recommended
you can and can't do uh with the
[1:40:21] cyanotoxin levels that are there those
signs are up
[1:40:24] from the time that we're aware of the
toxin levels from the testing and are
[1:40:29] brought back down after there's two
completed sampling events where the
[1:40:33] toxin levels have dropped and those are
based on the state's recommendations for
[1:40:38] taking action on cyanotoxin levels
[1:40:43] okay next next slide
angela
[1:40:47] okay so some of the progress the
milestones that this work group has done
[1:40:51] um is we've encouraged supported tribal
monitoring which is essential to this
[1:40:55] work group
many of the members of the work group
[1:40:58] participate in
local task force on this issue as well
[1:41:02] as state
programs and it is multi-agency
[1:41:05] collaboration so working
between the county and the cities
[1:41:09] special districts
and the tribes and we have been able to
[1:41:13] produce the signage we have permanent
signs around the lake to provide some
[1:41:16] basic information to those water users
that are accessing the lake through
[1:41:20] public
spots and some private areas as well as
[1:41:23] well as the temporary signs that sarah
just covered we have produced some
[1:41:27] educational materials brochures websites
i brought some for you guys today we'll
[1:41:31] go over that a little bit in a few
slides as well as press releases and um
[1:41:35] informative psas so the press releases
uh we produce a press release at the
[1:41:39] beginning of the season to give
everybody you know the season starting
[1:41:42] it's going to get warm there might be a
chance of cyanobacteria what to look for
[1:41:46] who to call
and then also
[1:41:48] whenever there's a bloom incident or a
specific change when there's a danger
[1:41:53] area or a lakewide event
there will be a press release
[1:41:57] to inform the public of that event and
where it was and to give them all the
[1:42:00] information
[1:42:07] sarah
so the tribal monitoring
[1:42:10] on the slide you see a map that we
produce and put on our website and also
[1:42:14] on the facebook page clear lake water
quality
[1:42:17] and that's that map is showing not only
the locations where we're doing our
[1:42:22] cyanotoxin monitoring
we do have some shoreline
[1:42:26] we have approximately 23 shoreline sites
and some sites that are on the interior
[1:42:31] uh that we get water samples from from
the county and also uc davis when
[1:42:35] they're out there on the lake and we
color the the markers based on those
[1:42:40] toxin levels and those coloration of
those signs you remember danger was red
[1:42:43] warning was orange and caution was
yellow
[1:42:46] green
means that it's below the caution level
[1:42:49] so it's a it's a very visual sign
um to to reflect what those toxin levels
[1:42:55] are those we are out there monitoring
every two weeks we started this program
[1:42:58] in 2014 as you might remember i think i
i think i came to the city council in
[1:43:03] 2015 to do a presentation um this is a
program that started by big valley
[1:43:07] rancheria and elm indian colony
and we are continuing to do it with
[1:43:11] funding from the federal government
as well as a state government
[1:43:16] the next slide
there's actually also
[1:43:20] the state
the cchab network you can see all the
[1:43:23] partners on there cc habs the california
cyanobacteria harmful algal bloom
[1:43:28] network i co-chair that along with
somewhere from dave karen from the
[1:43:33] university of southern california and
rebecca stanton from the office of
[1:43:36] environmental health hazard assessment
and as we co-chair it we meet with all
[1:43:41] the stakeholders we meet quarterly
with researchers
[1:43:45] vendors and uh government and um the
educational you know the academia
[1:43:52] to look at ways that we can improve our
programs in the state of california as
[1:43:56] well as solve this problem so know that
uh you know that what you have as part
[1:44:01] of this team and as part of you know the
the monitoring on the lake is we're
[1:44:04] actually
very well connected with the state on
[1:44:08] and have the most recent updated
information about studies um there's
[1:44:12] also uh federally there is a
cyanobacter cyanobacteria assessment
[1:44:17] network and there is um also satellite
imagery that we have access to
[1:44:22] uh it's not on this page but it's
fhab.sfei.org
[1:44:27] and you can go on there and look at the
satellite imagery of california and
[1:44:32] clear lake right now is standing bright
and
[1:44:35] red
um because of the cyanobacterial bloom
[1:44:38] so we have a lot of resources at our
hands i guess that's what i'm trying to
[1:44:41] say um and it's a well collaborative uh
group of people working on this on
[1:44:47] clearly not only clearly but all the
water bodies in california
[1:44:51] and the next slide
[1:44:54] okay so i get all the phone calls when
there's um blooms in the lake and if
[1:44:59] anything comes in and there's a health
hazard in question
[1:45:03] i will direct them to this page this is
a state page
[1:45:06] and it's the
mywaterquality.ca.gov and if you look at
[1:45:10] this page on the right hand side in red
it says report a bloom so this is the
[1:45:14] first step if someone has any questions
of been if they've been exposed to
[1:45:18] cyanobacteria bloom
and have any potential health hazard
[1:45:21] impacts or they have a family member or
an animal or pet in their family they go
[1:45:26] to that page it's like you scroll twice
you fill out the information
[1:45:30] there's a team at the state that
responds to this pretty quickly i was
[1:45:33] talking to a guy the other day he had
filled out the form had called me i
[1:45:37] called him back in about maybe half an
hour and he had already talked to
[1:45:39] somebody from the state about his issues
so they have staff resources that are
[1:45:44] dedicated to figuring out what's going
on and also collecting the information
[1:45:48] so they can make more research resources
available for us
[1:45:52] this team there works with public health
they'll communicate to public health
[1:45:55] together they'll complete the
investigation we'll figure out if us or
[1:45:59] the tribes go out do spot
site sampling to figure out if there was
[1:46:02] something there in the water and so it's
just a really great resource and that's
[1:46:05] where i direct staff or i direct
calls that come in if there's health
[1:46:09] hazard impacts at all any question i
send them there
[1:46:17] this thing is just showing there's about
30 30 plus signs around the
[1:46:22] around the lake
that give information about how to
[1:46:25] recreate safely
and
[1:46:28] in water that could possibly have the
habs it also provides links to
[1:46:33] in public health water resources there's
a qr code that links you to big valleys
[1:46:38] uh monitoring data so you can get the
most recent data there and
[1:46:45] [Music]
[1:46:50] the slide actually shows those the
location of the signs and this is most
[1:46:55] of those signs are at our monitoring
locations although there's a few uh
[1:46:59] areas that have signs that we don't
monitor most of our modern monitoring
[1:47:03] locations are
the parks
[1:47:07] we have a city you know city of clear
lake city of lakeport uh locations in in
[1:47:12] the city of lakeport it's a
redbud park and austin park
[1:47:18] and we have and we have some all around
the lake we also have
[1:47:22] sampling locations at
homeowners associations and private
[1:47:26] properties so there are
signs that are available i believe that
[1:47:31] there'll be more discussion about that
but homeowners and and private property
[1:47:35] owners can get signs also affixed to
their area and they just need to talk
[1:47:39] with public health or water resources
about that
[1:47:45] so part of this group was developing
education outreach materials i talked
[1:47:48] about the press releases already we do
have articles um on our websites and
[1:47:53] then we have brochures both in english
and spanish um that are available on our
[1:47:56] website as well as hard copy i'm gonna
give you guys some
[1:47:59] these are all for you so
take what you need
[1:48:03] um we also have some radio and digital
psas so we recently just did a digital
[1:48:07] campaign this is a visual psa uh to go
on digital media we have it on the
[1:48:13] facebook as well as its ads marketing
we also do little videos so we have one
[1:48:17] about um being safe with your your pets
around the water and then the
[1:48:22] big valley does post their results as
soon as they get them um on the clean
[1:48:27] lake water quality facebook page which
has a very uh big following and so
[1:48:31] people get that information right away
and they can make the best decisions for
[1:48:35] themselves and their family when they're
recreating
[1:48:42] this brochure that you see on the slide
for small drinking water systems and
[1:48:46] that's actually for
private drinking water systems that are
[1:48:50] one to four homes that these water
systems are connected to
[1:48:54] these don't believe there any of these
in the city of clear lake
[1:48:57] but throughout the lake we have 100
miles of shoreline there are a number
[1:49:01] hundreds actually of homes who have near
shore wells or private intakes into the
[1:49:06] lake where they are drying water in and
treating it possibly
[1:49:11] and drinking it or showering in it
feeding it to their animals and whatnot
[1:49:16] and so this
this brochure that is on the
[1:49:20] slide is warning or basically giving
recommendations to people who are
[1:49:24] drinking that type of water um to take
care if you're mixing water uh if you're
[1:49:30] making formula for your child you want
to use bottled water instead of lake
[1:49:33] water from your own private intake not
talking about the public water systems
[1:49:37] where most people 65 of the people in
this county get their drinking water
[1:49:41] from public water systems but from these
small systems so this outreach also has
[1:49:46] been available for several years it was
dr karen tate the public health officer
[1:49:49] who put this together
in coordination with the rest of our
[1:49:52] group so we do do outreach to these
private intakes and these state smalls
[1:49:57] as well because they do have lesser
treatment systems for their drinking
[1:50:01] water
[1:50:05] so you know our next steps um
for this group we've been together for
[1:50:10] like i said about four four years now
um as a directive to from the board of
[1:50:17] supervisors um we want to get more signs
out to private properties and homeowners
[1:50:22] associations around the lake we have
those permanent signs available whether
[1:50:27] it's a resort or
you know local
[1:50:31] hoa associations um communication we're
going to continue the monitoring
[1:50:36] continue partnering with our tribes and
our other agencies our cities around the
[1:50:42] lake
you know really manage the message
[1:50:44] because that's what it's all about it's
about informing people so that they can
[1:50:48] make
the right choice for them and then of
[1:50:52] course we look for input from our
community leaders such as yourselves we
[1:50:56] we welcome and we support that input and
that's basically why we're here today
[1:51:01] to give you an
[1:51:04] update and you know we'll now take any
questions or um concerns that you have
[1:51:11] here are
the three entities that
[1:51:15] people can contact for questions or for
more information or
[1:51:20] brochures
lake county water resources
[1:51:24] like county public health and
big valley band of pomo indians who
[1:51:29] really started this
trend back i don't know 10 years ago i
[1:51:34] guess sarah i could be wrong on that but
we really have them to thank for getting
[1:51:40] this
project off and running
[1:51:43] with the testing of our leg
many years ago so we thank you for your
[1:51:48] time and we're happy to answer any
questions
[1:51:51] it looks like councilman has questions
uh thank you denise and and all of you
[1:51:56] for that presentation it was very
informative
[1:51:59] i didn't i heard a lot of the the
problems created by the cyanobacteria
[1:52:04] and
both localized areas and across the lake
[1:52:08] my question is is there any progress
being made on something that we can
[1:52:12] knock these blooms down especially in
localized areas for instance off of
[1:52:17] austin's beach or off of redbud
uh or off of library park lakewood
[1:52:22] whatever
so is there any anything that's being
[1:52:25] done or can be done to at least break
those up and
[1:52:29] push them away
i'm gonna let our scientists answer
[1:52:34] the questions of sarah and or angela
i get this question all the time so i
[1:52:39] love it thank you thank you
um
[1:52:42] yeah so the conditions that make the
algae grow there are the still warm
[1:52:46] water nutrient rich we have super
nutrient water we're not you know the
[1:52:49] nutrients are there they've been there
for um thousands of years just old lake
[1:52:53] so it's all piled there there's a big
resource there for the food for them
[1:52:57] and this warm water so still warm food
and then we get summer daylight so we
[1:53:01] have these long daylight hours of the
sunshine and that's what they love so
[1:53:05] they're gonna grow there um
what you can do and again this is
[1:53:09] extreme year so this drought year with
the low water and these when if we had
[1:53:13] three weeks of a hundred plus weather in
a row starting in june like that's crazy
[1:53:18] so that's very extreme
there has been success local level in
[1:53:22] some places in the lake with moving the
water right so you're removing that
[1:53:25] habitat you're making it so it's not
still comfortable you'll still might get
[1:53:29] some blooms and some
toxins but not at the same level that we
[1:53:34] see in areas where you have but still
nice quiet coves there how have you been
[1:53:37] moving the water there's things that are
water movers there's um at big valley in
[1:53:41] their marina they have a solar bee which
is a little bubbler that kind of moves
[1:53:45] it around um there are dock mounted
basically it's underwater fans that can
[1:53:50] move it and of course you can get
different sizes then again you're moving
[1:53:52] electricity around you know um there
there's our options but they're small
[1:53:57] scale for your own property kind of
thing so it's it's not we can't move a
[1:54:01] whole large cove of algae and in fact i
think they tried it in 2010 and they
[1:54:05] moved it out and it just went into
somebody else's cove and then you're
[1:54:08] dealing with that problem in that that
location so it doesn't there's no quick
[1:54:13] fix or else we would have had it already
or other water bodies would have had it
[1:54:16] so the work the work being done up for
instance and rodney and slude as their
[1:54:21] going to do you know make that a slow
again and it was supposedly going to
[1:54:26] help filter the water coming in is that
going to have any any impact positively
[1:54:30] on this yes absolutely when that gets
done and other if we can do smaller
[1:54:35] scale of those two around the lake like
restoring wetlands and natural
[1:54:39] shorelines around the lake that
definitely will help because all of that
[1:54:41] habitat basically competes for all those
things like the nutrients
[1:54:46] that the the cyanobacteria does um like
although it's been here it's going to
[1:54:52] continue being here we're just trying to
lessen the severity and the frequency of
[1:54:55] it
yeah and i wanted to say that the um in
[1:54:59] the clear lake nutrient tmdl which was
established about 15 years ago from the
[1:55:04] regional board
they um they estimate 100 years of
[1:55:08] in-lake loading so we
somehow in 2009 you know we had a lake
[1:55:14] wide bloom it just hit i know there was
cyanobacteria prior to that but in 2009
[1:55:18] it just hit
and with 100 years of it you know there
[1:55:22] are a lot of smaller lakes and and i'm
not recommending this with smaller lakes
[1:55:26] that are that are using alum to cover
the bottom of the lake and do find ways
[1:55:31] to make that food that is sitting on the
bottom not available to the
[1:55:34] cyanobacteria to take it up but the
thing that really keeps it that the
[1:55:39] thing that really makes it available is
low oxygen levels so that's another
[1:55:42] thing
another reason why aeration is really
[1:55:46] useful though it's very localized as
angela said we would we have done um
[1:55:51] uh using a a simple um pump and pulling
water from the lake and spraying it back
[1:55:57] in the lake we would do that i say do it
often and early uh don't wait till it
[1:56:02] looks like this you know um yeah can't
do it now uh because there's no water
[1:56:07] practically but if you if you aerate it
and you move it around locally it makes
[1:56:11] a huge difference we had not have those
problems on the big valley shoreline so
[1:56:16] the bubblers the aerators fire hoses
blowing water out yeah that you know
[1:56:21] it's it keeps the smell it keeps the
mats from forming but you have to do it
[1:56:26] early and often yeah a year yeah years
ago
[1:56:29] yeah years back they there had been a
proposal or a couple of proposals or
[1:56:34] studies anyway done to possibly harvest
uh
[1:56:38] algae basically a water
water floating uh harvester that would
[1:56:44] take it in and
and then take the material off up on the
[1:56:48] shore dry it out and they had apparently
had looked into different uses for it
[1:56:53] have you heard and done anything or seen
anything of that this was back in the
[1:56:56] 90s i think yeah i i've heard it as an
urban legend maybe maybe angela can
[1:57:02] speak to it more but i do know it's hard
to pick up cyanobacteria it will you
[1:57:06] know if you put a pool skimmer out there
and try to lift it up most of it will
[1:57:10] fall through so it's really much better
to
[1:57:14] yeah it is it is a you should look at um
well i want to say but there's a few
[1:57:18] spots that we saw yesterday it looks
like a green smoothie
[1:57:20] um
removing it is difficult it's better to
[1:57:24] prevent it from from forming the other
thing i wanted to say about middle creek
[1:57:27] is the uc davis studies are showing that
the what we have in the lake is
[1:57:33] is probably producing more of the blooms
than what's coming in everybody's been
[1:57:38] working hard to prevent the coming in
erosion control projects and things like
[1:57:42] that but if what we have is mainly from
the lake the middle creek restoration
[1:57:46] project will be helpful
tule planting will be helpful but we
[1:57:50] have to deal with what's the panacea no
there's no magic bullet
[1:58:00] yeah i just um on our on the signage
that you guys have set out i haven't
[1:58:04] seen it for a while um is there anything
on there that say if you have these
[1:58:09] symptoms after being in the water
please contact
[1:58:14] the health department
because i mean i think that should be on
[1:58:17] the signage itself people aren't
necessarily going to see those
[1:58:21] and i don't know i never thought about
that after all these years
[1:58:25] but when you mentioned that i was like i
don't remember seeing that on our signs
[1:58:28] so
um
[1:58:30] denise do you know
yeah i do believe it's there let me pull
[1:58:34] it up i there's a ul cord uh to
um big valley so they can scan and get
[1:58:42] local conditions at that on that day but
i do believe we also have um our phone
[1:58:48] numbers on the signs for both water
resources and public health
[1:58:52] um i don't know that
let me i'm gonna check real quick here
[1:58:57] let me go through all these slides also
this
[1:58:59] symptoms can be different for different
people it's like allergies right
[1:59:02] sometimes people get watery eyes or
sneezing or some people get headaches
[1:59:06] and um so it's kind of different so if
we listed every single symptom well you
[1:59:09] might have to look at symptoms but maybe
they should say if you feel
[1:59:15] like something simple like if you feel
like you've been in the water and you
[1:59:18] feel
sick or or have rashes please call
[1:59:22] you know your
doctor and let them know that you're in
[1:59:25] the water or something like that has
algae i'm just thinking that there might
[1:59:28] be yeah
actually have on the side
[1:59:32] so what it says is um
to call your health provider on the
[1:59:36] temporary signs it says if you have any
reactions call your local medical
[1:59:41] provider
and then on the permanent signs it says
[1:59:45] um the current toxin levels it gives the
website and the url
[1:59:50] information or to report a bloom
or call
[1:59:55] a local
county departments for information so
[2:00:03] okay
[2:00:05] all right
and then on the temp app
[2:00:08] [Music]
you have any
[2:00:10] questions say
call your doctor or veterinarian if you
[2:00:14] or your pet get sick after going in the
water for more information contact
[2:00:19] water quality california habs um and
then for local information contact um
[2:00:26] public
health
[2:00:29] water resources or big valley
so it is on there
[2:00:35] thank you
councilman mclaffy you have any
[2:00:38] questions no questions thank you all for
the work you're doing on this this is uh
[2:00:43] is a great presentation thank you
i have one or two questions
[2:00:48] uh
is the smell
[2:00:50] is it i mean if you have blooms is it
autumn let me smell or is it what what
[2:00:54] creates the smell how can you get rid of
the smell
[2:01:00] well
there actually are taste and odor
[2:01:03] compounds that cyan bacteria produces
and lingbia seems to be the smelliest i
[2:01:07] remember in 2009 i remember saying it
looks and smells like raw sewage
[2:01:12] um
so uh but also when it's dying so you've
[2:01:15] probably seen some blooms that look pink
right now these big masses and that's
[2:01:20] that is the uh dying cyanobacteria so um
that's so it either is because of the
[2:01:26] cyan bacteria itself some of them smell
like swampy you know microcystis has a
[2:01:30] different smell than than lingam but
lingby is the smelly is to my opinion
[2:01:43] you said uh i've noticed there's some
places that they just take thules out is
[2:01:48] that illegal
yeah that is can you tell me let us know
[2:01:53] call our department let us know where
that is so we can investigate
[2:01:56] they're not supposed to tulies are
protected and you're not alone clear
[2:02:00] lake other outside of the lake
we don't have that that's not an
[2:02:04] ordinance rule but it is the shoreline
ordinance chapter 23 does prohibit the
[2:02:08] removal of these some people can cut
them down um even though we don't
[2:02:12] recommend that right now for this year
because they don't have water and you're
[2:02:15] putting through stress so basically the
ordinance language says you cannot do
[2:02:18] anything to the plant that results in
death of the plant if a plant has no
[2:02:21] water and you trim it down that could
result in death so you're not supposed
[2:02:24] to do that um but you're not supposed to
uproot them or move them some people
[2:02:28] weed whack to get a better view and
that's okay that's allowed um but yeah
[2:02:32] if if you know the site just call us
okay so we can go check it out some of
[2:02:36] them are growing on top of my concrete
ramp that's still the shoreline and
[2:02:41] protected
oh sure sorry
[2:02:50] you said this is a worldwide problem
so where else in the world are they
[2:02:54] working on some kind of uh
to to deal with the effects of this
[2:03:00] yeah all over um it's just very
different so like lake erie is world
[2:03:05] renowned for having cyanobacteria issues
and drinking water and recreation their
[2:03:10] problems are very different because they
get
[2:03:12] those huge storms in the summer and then
they plaster the area with phosphorus
[2:03:17] and they have drain tiles so they're
getting constant fertilizer influx
[2:03:21] during the whole year and they're
getting those blooms right um we're very
[2:03:25] different we're still getting blooms but
our lake is very different so the tools
[2:03:28] to manage and treat in an area like that
are very different than the ones that we
[2:03:32] have to develop here
and i will say that i think i'm correct
[2:03:36] but i think clear lake is one of the
only
[2:03:38] drinking water lakes or reservoirs in
california that has these bloom events
[2:03:42] um versus all the other ones there are
some bloom events it's getting more and
[2:03:45] more often but i think clear lakes the
one where they have as a drinking water
[2:03:48] intakes directly on the lake is the only
one in the state so it's very unique
[2:03:52] which means there's not a lot of
research and data as of yet just for our
[2:03:55] specific situation is that climate
change have anything to do with that oh
[2:03:59] absolutely because what did we talk
about the temperature
[2:04:02] um and still water so we're getting
warmer temperatures earlier
[2:04:06] longer periods of these warm
temperatures less rain we have less
[2:04:09] dilution
yeah that's definitely a contributing
[2:04:11] factor
yeah
[2:04:14] all right thank you for oh but mr
product
[2:04:17] patiently waiting
patiently waiting to ask my questions um
[2:04:21] so i understand the the wind the the
naturally occurring winds that typically
[2:04:27] blow it down the the northern arm or
toward elam and clearly goku's area and
[2:04:31] obviously we receive the same type of
prevailing winds uh which makes it pool
[2:04:36] and pocket in those areas which where it
gets stagnant does the state or local
[2:04:44] i'm thinking boating and waterways
our own water resources they have
[2:04:48] anything or any recommendations for our
private property owners and and some of
[2:04:53] our public areas where that where it
pools where we can maybe get some
[2:04:57] assistance either trash pumps or other
ways to mitigate when it starts to pile
[2:05:03] up i'm not just talking about
cyanobacteria but actually when the
[2:05:06] algae the different forms and types of
algae
[2:05:09] begin to die and decompose
there's a lot of gases that come off of
[2:05:13] that
as it decomposes
[2:05:16] so that's um i would say that most of
what that is describing is the
[2:05:20] cyanobacteria
and not the green algae and
[2:05:24] private homeowners when they call me
this i recommend you know you can put in
[2:05:27] a water mover like sarah talked about
early in the season um you can encourage
[2:05:32] natural shorelines so if you have a lot
of erosion in the area
[2:05:35] or a lawn that goes right up you know
that can promote those conditions
[2:05:39] even though it's harder when it's
affecting a large area not just your own
[2:05:42] parcel
some people try skimming you know the
[2:05:46] pool skimmer
and then put it aside on the shoreline
[2:05:49] but it's just making more room for more
of it to come in so yeah i know that
[2:05:53] they had looked at it though for um
different uses i mean some algae is
[2:05:57] actually harvested in different parts
algae not cyanobacteria i understand
[2:06:01] that but now i'm looking at the health
of the lake yes and and the
[2:06:07] we have to enjoy the lake as much as we
can and when it stinks it's no no fun
[2:06:11] so you know what can we do to help our
residents uh combat that
[2:06:15] so i you know we talked about syncing it
we had a former supervisor who used the
[2:06:19] airboat for the county who tried to
break it up and try to mitigate that
[2:06:23] we've actually hired contractors with
excavators to pull it out of the lake
[2:06:27] haul it away to different um
agricultural
[2:06:31] areas for fertilizer
so i mean there's different uses i just
[2:06:36] can we start looking at those because
this is it happens every year some years
[2:06:40] more than others
that we can try to mitigate this and and
[2:06:43] maybe
use it for something beneficial
[2:06:48] do you want to talk about the uc davis
is doing a study and they're going to
[2:06:51] have some recommendations at the end of
that to kind of figure out how to keep
[2:06:54] it from forming um it sells so just
because you remove some cells there's a
[2:06:59] whole bunch more and all they do is
reproduce and make more actually save
[2:07:02] themselves yeah absolutely yeah so um
one thing about having weeds on your
[2:07:08] shoreline and weeds in the water rather
than is that it competes with the
[2:07:12] cyanobacteria so i would recommend
keeping your you know keeping some weeds
[2:07:16] and they're planting some tules because
they eat the same thing that
[2:07:19] cyanobacteria eats so don't you know if
you take everything out of there then
[2:07:23] cyanobacteria can dominate and you don't
want that to happen i i noticed where
[2:07:30] the edge of the
tulis were and they moved
[2:07:34] probably 20 feet farther into the lake
over the last 10 years or so yes great
[2:07:39] yeah we need more tulies
more tules
[2:07:43] have a thule planting campaign
yeah
[2:07:46] we're doing yeah we've done hundreds of
feet of big valley shoreline and it's
[2:07:50] very helpful i want to say another
aerator that's out there uh we bought
[2:07:54] some one at usa blue books i'm sure
they're out there but they look like
[2:07:57] what you put in the bottom of your um
fish tank they sit on the bottom you
[2:08:00] have weighted cables and they bubble up
and uh
[2:08:04] you know a little over a thousand
dollars you can get a bubbler that turns
[2:08:08] over the water in the air uh five acre
area in 72 hours and that's what we use
[2:08:14] when tribone clear lake vista and it did
make a difference for the water in that
[2:08:18] cove
so
[2:08:20] thank you very much very educational
thank you we really appreciate that
[2:08:25] all right we uh mr mayor would you have
someone on zoom that has their hand
[2:08:29] raised
all right
[2:08:33] just wait for a second there's somebody
on zoom that might have a question
[2:08:38] go ahead
melissa
[2:09:01] go ahead with your comment
you have your hand raised
[2:09:07] michael did cheat
[2:09:13] go ahead michael with your comment
[2:09:26] all right i think we have to move on
all right we go to public comment
[2:09:35] this is the time for any member of the
public to address the city council and
[2:09:38] thanks again we
appreciate your presentation of the
[2:09:42] public to address the city council or
any matter not on the agenda that is
[2:09:46] within the subject matter jurisdiction
of the city
[2:09:49] the brown act with limited exception
does not allow the council or staff to
[2:09:54] discuss issues brought before under
public comment the council cannot take
[2:10:00] actions on non-agenda items
concerns may be referred to staff or
[2:10:06] placed on the next available agenda
please note that the comments from the
[2:10:10] public would also be taken on each
agenda item and comments shall be
[2:10:14] limited to three minutes per person
do we have any here anybody in the
[2:10:19] public here that wants to address the
council
[2:10:22] go ahead sir please state your name when
you come up
[2:10:30] my name is mr bolt
and um we have a traffic
[2:10:35] problem up here on uh 18th avenue where
i live
[2:10:39] between phillips and ball
my sister wrote this in august 15 2020
[2:10:47] people are driving 60 to 70 miles an
hour at all times of the day and night
[2:10:52] keeping us all up at night
i am sick with lyme disease and cannot
[2:10:56] get any sleep
please have a patrol officer at knives
[2:11:00] sit at phillips avenue or borrow avenues
off of 18th and check for violators
[2:11:06] have called several times with no
follow-up thank you ronald
[2:11:12] thank you for your comments sir and
i live on the corner of irwin
[2:11:18] and 18th
and and i requested uh 25 miles an
[2:11:22] hour post sign
from 19th and 18th on the corner where i
[2:11:28] live
because they drive 40 or 50 miles an
[2:11:31] hour there
and i i requested that i would put slow
[2:11:35] down children at play but i would like a
25 miles an hour
[2:11:39] posted on the corner of 19th and 18th
right there
[2:11:43] when you come up
off of 18th
[2:11:47] they go 40 or 50 miles right there
and coming down there's no stop sign and
[2:11:52] they clipped the uh
they clicked the sign there that says
[2:11:56] irwin and 18th avenue they took that out
and and the mailbox is right there
[2:12:02] doing about 40 right there so there's no
stop sign so they fly down the hill real
[2:12:07] fast
and if we can have a 25 mile put right
[2:12:10] on the corner there
at 19 coming down and right by my place
[2:12:14] going up 25
i will pay for slow down children in
[2:12:19] that play
so the kids can ride their bikes there
[2:12:23] and then um
between phillips and ball it's like a
[2:12:26] race track
all times at night you can see the burn
[2:12:29] off they hit
a fire hydrant
[2:12:34] at night
they were coming up by the hospital
[2:12:38] coming down like this and they ran
phillips the intersection of phillips
[2:12:42] coming up there there's a hydra fire
hydrant right there
[2:12:46] he took that out with his truck with the
wheel
[2:12:49] and with his bumper he took the two uh
yellow
[2:12:53] post that that goes in front of it
cement knocked that down
[2:12:57] and for him to hit that up
fire hydrant he had to be doing about 70
[2:13:02] miles an hour
so he's going over those humps like this
[2:13:05] and pass right past phillips
intersection
[2:13:08] doing 70 miles an hour and then hit that
fire hydrant and shot it off like a
[2:13:13] bowling bowling pin
and with that tightened down he was
[2:13:17] doing at least seven
so they're hit they're hitting a lot of
[2:13:21] city property and then coming up from
walmart there they just clipped on uh
[2:13:26] where the uh
across from the college there
[2:13:30] they went on the left there and hit the
green fence right there
[2:13:34] way off the line there and i talked to
the lady there and she says that they
[2:13:38] always run that stop sign there
and they're burning off like crazy the
[2:13:42] motorbikes and all these trucks well
you're in luck because our chief traffic
[2:13:46] officer is in the meeting and listening
to all this
[2:13:49] thank you very much for your comments i
really appreciate it thank you thank you
[2:13:54] steve
white please i just wanted to respond
[2:13:57] that we have met with this uh gentleman
on multiple occasions and we did just
[2:14:01] recently order a speed radar trailer um
which has been in hot demand our last
[2:14:06] one was broken so obviously areas like
this and stuff won't tend to use it and
[2:14:10] the traffic officer is aware of the
complaints thank you
[2:14:13] thank you uh are there any public
comments on zoom
[2:14:17] adam
[2:14:21] there are no hands raised on zoom
all right we'll move on to the consent
[2:14:26] agenda anybody wants to pull any of the
consent agenda
[2:14:30] if not entertain a motion
i so move that we accept the uh consent
[2:14:35] agenda as presented and i'll second that
we have a motion by councilwoman overton
[2:14:40] and the second by councilman
cramer
[2:14:44] uh all in favor all right
all right we'll move on to public
[2:14:49] hearing item number 15. mr mayor i'd
like to make a request that we
[2:14:56] we have our auditor um on zoom and i'd
like to request that we take up item
[2:15:01] number 16 before the public hearing
okay
[2:15:05] please
all right item number
[2:15:11] 16.
um
[2:15:14] mr white chief of police interim finance
director i think it's your item
[2:16:08] okay sorry about that i was trying to
pull this up uh good evening mayor
[2:16:11] members of the council members of the
public i come before you tonight as the
[2:16:15] interim finance director
to introduce you to our city auditor by
[2:16:20] way of background we hire an auditor to
implement an audit of the city's books
[2:16:25] for 2018 and 19 we engaged a new
auditing
[2:16:29] firm
and the head auditor
[2:16:31] is actually on the line with us and i'm
going to turn it over
[2:16:35] to him to go ahead and present
this report
[2:16:42] uh yes good evening mr mayor members of
the council
[2:16:45] my name is brett van glant i'm a partner
with van lant and fenk kennel
[2:16:49] we conducted the audit uh for the city's
financial statements for the fiscal year
[2:16:54] ended june 30 2019.
i have a short
[2:16:58] powerpoint presentation just kind of
going over the audit process and the
[2:17:01] reports that were issued as part of our
audits
[2:17:04] if you have any questions throughout the
presentation please feel free to
[2:17:08] just cut me off at any time i'm going to
try and
[2:17:11] share my screen do i need to share my
screen or were you guys gonna
[2:17:16] please you can you can you want to share
okay perfect
[2:17:33] so you guys can see that
yes okay
[2:17:37] um so the audit process uh it's kind of
broken up into two different two
[2:17:41] different parts
we do what we call an interim audit
[2:17:45] field work this is where we do
some of our
[2:17:48] [Music]
preliminary work for
[2:17:52] to assess the risk that the financial
statements could contain a material
[2:17:56] misstatement this is what we call our
risk assessment process
[2:18:01] this part of the audit we are just
gaining an understanding of the
[2:18:06] design and implementation of the
different internal controls over the
[2:18:10] city's financial reporting in order to
do this we
[2:18:14] have to review all different
types of transactions that the city
[2:18:17] engages in
cash receipts cash disbursements
[2:18:21] the procurement and purchasing process
uh how payroll is processed and any
[2:18:27] other various uh
audit areas that we might find
[2:18:30] significant
to the the city itself the different
[2:18:34] types of transactions and things like
that
[2:18:37] in order to do that we have to review
specific transactions uh we observe uh
[2:18:42] the processes that are that are taking
place the cash receipts process how
[2:18:46] those are handled uh also the cash
disbursements process um and then in
[2:18:51] addition to that we are inquiring with
different uh personnel throughout the
[2:18:56] city uh that that handle these types of
transactions
[2:19:00] so that's kind of the preliminary
process of just
[2:19:03] gaining an understanding of how how the
financial transactions work at the city
[2:19:08] and those internal controls over those
transactions to make sure that the
[2:19:12] financial statements
are fairly misstated or fairly stated in
[2:19:16] accordance with generally accepted
accounting principles
[2:19:21] so the second second part of our audit
process is the year-end audit field work
[2:19:25] this is where we're actually verifying
the balances and the amounts that are in
[2:19:29] the city's financial statements
the procedures that we do involve our
[2:19:34] judgment and that
uh those procedures are dictated by our
[2:19:39] risk assessment process so uh when i
talked about the different internal
[2:19:43] controls
if there's if there's various areas that
[2:19:47] uh
internal controls might not be as strong
[2:19:50] as we would uh anticipate then we would
have to do extended procedures to
[2:19:56] verify that the amounts that are
actually reported in your financial
[2:20:00] statements are materially stated
so part of that we are doing substantive
[2:20:07] testing
of the amount of the amounts that are
[2:20:11] reported in your financial statements we
are confirming balances with the state
[2:20:16] and the county different payments that
are made
[2:20:19] we test transactions we inquire with
city staff
[2:20:23] we perform analytical procedures prior
year comparisons try to
[2:20:28] identify any uh any fluctuations from
one year to the next that uh can't can
[2:20:33] necessarily be explained uh we will do
further procedures to inquire with
[2:20:39] uh city staff to understand you know why
those uh fluctuations might have
[2:20:43] happened so that we feel comfortable
with the amounts that are
[2:20:46] reported in the financial statements
themselves
[2:20:50] uh there are several reports that are
issued as part of our audit
[2:20:54] most notably it's the audit report
that's the opinion on the financial
[2:20:58] statements
we're also required to issue a report on
[2:21:02] internal control and compliance that's
required by government auditing
[2:21:06] standards
we also issued a report on the city's
[2:21:10] appropriations limit calculation
and there's also a letter that was
[2:21:15] addressed to the city council just
informative about the audit process
[2:21:20] itself
[2:21:23] so the audit report on the financial
statements uh has several sections
[2:21:28] uh identifying the responsibilities of
both parties so the financial statements
[2:21:34] themselves are management's financial
statements they're the responsibility of
[2:21:38] management
our responsibility is to express an
[2:21:42] opinion on the the presentation of those
financial statements
[2:21:47] we are providing reasonable assurance
that the amounts are fairly stated in
[2:21:51] accordance with generally accepted
accounting principles
[2:21:54] uh it talks about uh the procedure or
the
[2:21:57] applicable standards that we follow
um as part of our audits and also talks
[2:22:03] about that
our our procedures involve our judgment
[2:22:07] based off of our risk assessment
[2:22:11] the city received an unmodified opinion
which is a clean opinion meaning
[2:22:16] we did not
the the financial statements are fairly
[2:22:20] presented in accordance with generally
accepted accounting principles
[2:22:24] meaning there's no material
misstatements in in the amounts that are
[2:22:28] reported in the financial statements
there's also
[2:22:33] the report also discusses our
responsibility for the required
[2:22:37] supplementary information
required supplementary
[2:22:40] supplementary information includes the
md a
[2:22:44] budgetary schedules and pension
schedules the city this year elected not
[2:22:48] to
present an mdna
[2:22:52] which is management's discussion and
analysis
[2:22:56] uh we are not expressing an opinion on
that required supplementary information
[2:23:00] and we're only performing limited audit
procedures on those
[2:23:04] and then the report also talks about
the other supplementary information
[2:23:09] that's reported in the financial
statements and our responsibility for
[2:23:14] reviewing that activity as well
[2:23:19] um i just uh put some key figures in
here
[2:23:22] um
most the
[2:23:25] pension liability
uh the city's net pension liability is
[2:23:29] approximately seven million that's a
decrease from the previous fiscal year
[2:23:34] 2019 again
obviously it's a couple years ago at
[2:23:38] this point but that was one of the first
years
[2:23:42] the only year that i've seen actually
that the pension liability went down so
[2:23:45] that's a always a plus
the fund balance in the general fund
[2:23:50] increased approximately 500 000 compared
to the prior year
[2:23:55] the unrestricted fund balance is
approximately
[2:23:59] months reserves
which of the 2019 expenditures
[2:24:05] gfoa is the government finance officers
association
[2:24:09] their
their best practice recommendation is to
[2:24:13] have a minimum of two months operating
reserves so that kind of gives you an
[2:24:16] idea of
where the city's reserves are at with
[2:24:19] best practices
[2:24:24] we had the report on internal control
and compliance this is a government
[2:24:28] auditing standards report
uh it talks about uh
[2:24:33] it can we're our requirements to
consider internal control over financial
[2:24:37] reporting and also uh compliance with
anything that could have a material
[2:24:44] impact on the financial statement so
that's compliance with laws regulations
[2:24:48] contracts grant agreements things like
that anything that could have an impact
[2:24:52] on the amounts that are reported in your
financial statements
[2:24:57] we're not expressing an opinion on
internal controls
[2:25:00] we are just required to report any
significant deficiencies material
[2:25:04] weaknesses
other matters or material non-compliance
[2:25:09] as part of our audit we're required to
report that
[2:25:13] we did identify for material weaknesses
i believe everybody's had a chance to
[2:25:18] review the reports
[Music]
[2:25:21] i won't go through each one unless you
guys have questions on them they're
[2:25:25] pretty uh
you know we've reported on them in
[2:25:28] detail so if there's any questions on
any of these uh feel free to
[2:25:33] ask at at any time but these are the
four material weaknesses that were
[2:25:37] identified as part of our audit
and then there was four significant
[2:25:42] deficiencies that we identified as part
of our audience
[2:25:45] that report also talks about you know
what
[2:25:49] it involves auditor judgment to
determine
[2:25:52] if what we might think is significant
enough to be reported as a material
[2:25:56] weakness or a significant deficiency
items like that
[2:26:03] there is also the sas 114 report that's
a a statement on auditing standards 114
[2:26:09] that's the
abbreviation for that but this is a
[2:26:12] required communication with this
those charged with governance which is
[2:26:17] the city council
and it talks about the different
[2:26:20] estimates that are in the city's
financial statements uh sensitive
[2:26:23] disclosures if we had any difficulties
or disagreements with management we
[2:26:28] would be reporting that there uh
aside from the um you know some of the
[2:26:34] issues with the accounting that that
took place throughout the audit process
[2:26:38] we did not have any difficulties or
disagreements with management throughout
[2:26:42] the audit
[2:26:45] i'd like to thank uh andrew and and the
staff at the city for uh all their help
[2:26:50] in in uh finally getting this audit uh
completed it was a a long process by by
[2:26:56] both parties and
um you know it
[2:27:01] it was a lot of work on on both ends
there's a lot of turnover at the city
[2:27:06] when we came in and so uh
having having that time frame with the
[2:27:11] transition it took a while but uh
i'm i'm happy to uh have been able to
[2:27:16] work with with the staff to get to get
to where we are today so
[2:27:21] if you have any questions i'd be happy
to uh
[2:27:23] answer them now
any questions from the council here
[2:27:31] chief white has a couple of updates he'd
like to share
[2:27:34] sure so um i just first of all uh wanted
to thank our our new auditing team and
[2:27:39] specifically brad i think that
it's always an opportunity to
[2:27:44] make yourselves better and there's some
deficiencies that were identified
[2:27:47] but i am grateful that they came in with
a very fine toothed comb in fact a very
[2:27:51] very very fine one
but a lot of issues were discovered it
[2:27:55] existed for years and so i think you
know from the council's perspective the
[2:27:59] public's perspective
transitioning to new systems i think it
[2:28:02] was really important that this was done
it's just unfortunate it takes so long
[2:28:05] but it's a huge amount of effort
and on our staff specifically i wanted
[2:28:08] to thank amy who's not here but
amongst carrying out all her other
[2:28:12] regular duties she assisted in pulling
all kinds of records and a lot of
[2:28:15] research had to be done
two
[2:28:19] or three areas that i wanted to cover
just very briefly it's detailed in the
[2:28:23] staff report but obviously as you're all
aware there's been significant personnel
[2:28:26] changes
but i think in the last year we've
[2:28:29] brought some stability i mean we just
had our first department head meeting
[2:28:32] with the new finance director who will
be here shortly
[2:28:35] so i think that's a really good move for
the city we have our contract with rgs
[2:28:39] which i think is providing that um
professional support that we need to
[2:28:44] make sure that we're doing the right
thing especially as we go to change
[2:28:46] stuff and another level of oversight
um i would mention that there's
[2:28:51] definitely some classification issues
within the current structure
[2:28:55] which is evidenced by the findings
and i think it's going to be an ongoing
[2:28:59] challenge for the city because of the
expense in adding additional personnel
[2:29:02] without having
other types of revenue sources to cover
[2:29:06] that so we'll have to continue to find
ways to
[2:29:09] you know provide the necessary oversight
where we can't physically split duties
[2:29:15] the second part is we obviously have our
new system the erp
[2:29:18] it fixes a number of issues like for
example the cashiering process
[2:29:22] we've also automated a huge amount of
processes
[2:29:25] including our interactions with like
calpers that used to be an entirely
[2:29:28] manual process every two weeks
credit card processing i know just
[2:29:33] within this county about government
agencies accepting credit cards you know
[2:29:36] just in the last two years we've
implemented two entirely different
[2:29:40] systems um
that have incrementally gotten us better
[2:29:44] so we have a very efficient system now
that integrates directly with the erp
[2:29:49] and then from a public transparency
perspective we just recently completed
[2:29:53] the
interface with the opengov which
[2:29:56] provides real-time information
the last part is policies and procedures
[2:30:00] i think you're gonna we've done a bunch
but you're gonna see a lot more when we
[2:30:03] have the new finance director on board
to carry this through and then make sure
[2:30:07] it's carried out so
again i think that the city's has a good
[2:30:11] solid foundation moving forward is a lot
of work
[2:30:14] but with everything new that's happening
in the city you know a record budget for
[2:30:18] this year i think this was really a good
opportunity to set up that solid
[2:30:21] foundation so that we can be successful
moving forward and the final caveat that
[2:30:25] i'll give is it this was 1819 so i would
suspect and i think the auditor would
[2:30:30] confirm this that in 1920 there may be
some of the same findings mentioned only
[2:30:34] because we just got to this basically at
the end of 1920 um so that's the last
[2:30:39] information i'll give thank you
mr mayor if i could just add briefly i
[2:30:43] mean um i want to personally think brett
i mean i other than at the beginning i
[2:30:48] wasn't too involved in this process but
um shared with the council before the
[2:30:53] the the auditor we used the year
previous to this we weren't satisfied
[2:30:57] with and
the the one that was used before that
[2:31:01] for a number of years so this i know
this was a painful process to get
[2:31:04] through but very pleased with um
you know the approach brett took and you
[2:31:09] know we had the conversation from the
beginning that you know you need to put
[2:31:12] the effort in is required to to get us
on the right track and then of course
[2:31:17] chief white
put an extraordinary amount of time into
[2:31:23] not only improving a bunch of processes
and putting things in place but digging
[2:31:28] information back many uh fiscal years in
order to get brett his team the
[2:31:33] information that was needed so a
personal thank you to both of you for
[2:31:37] that
[2:31:39] any comments from council if not i have
one question
[2:31:44] go ahead yes thank you mr mayor uh quick
question mr vinland it looks like
[2:31:48] management concurred with uh all of your
recommendations any any concerns on your
[2:31:53] end on the way that they're going to
resolve uh some of the concerns that you
[2:31:57] brought up
um no i you know a lot of the uh
[2:32:04] my main concerns uh with with some of
the day-to-day processes
[2:32:09] are
or should be rectified with the new
[2:32:12] system having some automated systems and
um you know being able to to capture
[2:32:18] information at the very very start of
the process
[2:32:22] for example the cash receipts process
and things like that um obviously we are
[2:32:26] actually in the uh preliminary stages of
the actual 2020 audit and as as uh
[2:32:33] chief white mentioned
um you know some of some of these
[2:32:37] comments uh might might carry forward
just because of the timing
[2:32:41] um typically
we try not to just uh repeat findings if
[2:32:46] they've already been uh corrected
but um
[2:32:50] you know until we're able to actually uh
come out there and
[2:32:54] and and observe the those
implementations then um i i can't really
[2:32:58] comment too much further on that
okay and then uh to city staff it looks
[2:33:03] like the
the um the latest implementation of of
[2:33:08] changes would be around september 30th
if does that sound correct
[2:33:13] yes we kind of gave an estimate uh based
upon onboarding time for the finance
[2:33:16] director and some other stuff so
yeah over the next few months and some
[2:33:21] parts have been
partially implemented already
[2:33:24] excellent yeah it looks like most were
either implemented or close to
[2:33:28] implementation if we could just get
maybe a quick update in october and
[2:33:32] november
once everyone's settled and we feel like
[2:33:35] all of these recommendations have been
locked down and resolved i think that
[2:33:40] would be great thank you
[2:33:43] um
do we have
[2:33:46] we'll open a public hearing do we have
any comments from the public on this
[2:33:49] item uh madam club
[2:33:53] i've not received any comments and there
are no hands raised in the zoom yeah
[2:33:58] we'll bring it back to the council
uh any other comments
[2:34:02] no i just want to make a comment thank
you uh
[2:34:05] to uh especially alan uh to have a fresh
look at this i remember the last couple
[2:34:11] of times when there was an audit and the
gentleman walked in with his little
[2:34:16] briefcase and yeah thank you for doing a
very thorough job we needed it thank you
[2:34:22] thank you all right
uh
[2:34:25] here's there somebody wants to make a
motion
[2:34:36] head off
hear me now
[2:34:39] mr mayor i'd like to make a motion that
we adopt resolution number 20
[2:34:45] 21-35 resolution of the city council of
the city of clear lake accepting the
[2:34:50] annual financial report for the fiscal
year 2018
[2:34:54] cash 2019.
now though okay we have a motion by
[2:34:59] councilman
cramer and a second by vice mayor perdoc
[2:35:04] all in favor
all right hi all right motion carries we
[2:35:09] go now
back to item number 15.
[2:35:13] thank you very much
[2:35:22] backtrack to item number 15.
this is an item for our public works
[2:35:27] director if he's around well in this
case our city engineer is going to okay
[2:35:34] uh can you hear me okay yep
oh yeah good evening mayor members of
[2:35:38] the council uh dale asked me to sit in
for him on this particular item
[2:35:44] um this is a
resolution that's a continuation of an
[2:35:47] ongoing effort by the city to
do some cleanup of a lot of the illegal
[2:35:52] dumping that goes on throughout
areas of the city in particular
[2:35:56] in particular the area up around the
pomo school
[2:36:00] so
this is a a a resolution that would
[2:36:06] allow um
city public works department to block
[2:36:10] off a section of
you can refer to it either as burns
[2:36:13] valley drive or east lake drive i've
never i haven't really
[2:36:18] gotten into looking at the logistics of
it so we'll call it both for now but
[2:36:22] it's a
it's a fairly uh
[2:36:25] unwell trial or not well-traveled dirt
road
[2:36:28] that goes um
northeast of the school
[2:36:32] um
the gates uh are kind of shown on a map
[2:36:36] that dale had prepared there is one
residence on fellers avenue that the
[2:36:41] gate would go
beyond that location to not prohibit any
[2:36:44] access there
and again this is uh
[2:36:49] we'd also add some k rails as necessary
to further block access because uh
[2:36:55] the area off of that roadway is just a
large dump site um and it doesn't uh
[2:37:00] it's not used by
police and fire there's nobody who lives
[2:37:05] down in that area and we think it would
be a good thing to do
[2:37:10] all right we have any questions from
council here
[2:37:15] no no
okay we open the public hearings we have
[2:37:18] any comments from the public
[2:37:26] there are no hands raised in the zoom mr
mayor i have not received any email
[2:37:30] comments okay we'll bring it back to the
council
[2:37:33] any more questions
if not can i entertain a motion
[2:37:38] yes mr
mr mayor
[2:37:41] uh this is long overdue
[2:37:45] i'd like to make a
move that uh we adopt resolution number
[2:37:51] 28-20
is that correct
[2:37:56] 2021-3838
it's 20 21 that right
[2:38:02] yes yes
38 a resolution of the city council of
[2:38:06] the city of clear lake authorizing the
ongoing closure of a segment of burns
[2:38:10] valley road to reduce illegal dumping
and to protect the environment and the
[2:38:14] public health and welfare
we have a motion by councilman cramer
[2:38:19] second we have a second by vice mayor
her doc
[2:38:23] all in favor say aye aye aye aye
all right we're going to move on to item
[2:38:28] number 17.
[2:38:32] mr lee lambert code enforcement
here here's some pictures
[2:38:38] [Music]
[2:38:48] all right good evening mr mayor and
council members uh
[2:38:52] this
[2:38:54] staff reports in regards to the
demolition of 14525
[2:38:58] lakeshore drive
purpose of the hearing
[2:39:02] uh is to allow the city manager
uh
[2:39:05] to execute a contract with toronto
excavating incorporated for the
[2:39:09] demolition of that address
upon consideration of the evidence and
[2:39:13] testimony
council may
[2:39:16] accept or deny
the bid for demolition
[2:39:22] a staff recommendation is to allow the
city manager to execute a contract with
[2:39:26] turner excavating inc for the demolition
at one four five two five lakeshore
[2:39:30] drive
all right
[2:39:34] so overall case activity and this case
was started uh december 26 2018.
[2:39:40] there's been 22 total compliance
inspections a public nuisance citation
[2:39:44] was issued a notice of violation was
issued
[2:39:46] and 11 administrative citations were
issued
[2:39:50] in order to abate was finally issued
i believe is april of this year
[2:40:00] um
there are i believe it's
[2:40:04] [Music]
[2:40:09] 11 different violations
the crew musical code and the california
[2:40:14] health and safety code
[2:40:25] so that so i'll describe some of the
pictures here uh that's a photo of a
[2:40:29] electrical panel under the property
where all the wires have been cut and
[2:40:32] removed
[2:40:36] that's how they built the deck
around the existing meters and then all
[2:40:40] the wires in the gutter above the meters
have been cut
[2:40:46] and that's a picture of how the inside
has been left
[2:40:48] inside sorry excuse me
[2:40:52] um
most of the damage to the building has
[2:40:54] been caused by water damage
as you'll see in the photos this is just
[2:40:58] one area where the roof caved
in another area where they've removed
[2:41:03] sheetrock because to let moisture out
[2:41:08] another area the whole main building
is pretty much gutted like that
[2:41:17] um that's an opening in the bar area
that gets broken into a lot you can see
[2:41:22] how they
didn't really secure it all you have to
[2:41:24] do is pull the plywood down people are
getting in there all the time
[2:41:28] so this picture here if you look in the
background you see the wall of the
[2:41:33] add-on how it's listing
the parts listing out and the lower
[2:41:37] parts listing in
um that whole portion of the building is
[2:41:40] failing
[2:41:44] here's another fit why it's failing you
have broken beams um and supports
[2:41:48] underneath
[2:41:51] that's the portion of the building
failing right there looking straight on
[2:41:55] additionally that swamp clear there is
what they were using for the kitchen
[2:41:58] exhaust vent
[2:42:03] more weathering you can see where the
water's been getting in creating dry rot
[2:42:06] there
[2:42:08] so this is what happened on the whole
roof this was taken in the winter their
[2:42:12] roof uh drainage wasn't leaking so the
roof would
[2:42:16] the water would just accumulate on the
roof
[2:42:19] and start getting into the wood
going pouring down inside the interior
[2:42:24] walls
[2:42:29] so this one here as you could tell that
if you look to the right of the concrete
[2:42:33] it's dry
this is water after several days of
[2:42:36] being dry which is coming down the wall
still creating dry rot in the walls
[2:42:43] creating mold and things like this
inside
[2:42:49] ceiling falling down
[2:43:00] mold
more mold
[2:43:03] and this is just a picture of how much
we've tried to get him to comply
[2:43:07] and he has failed to do so
in
[2:43:10] two and a half years
[2:43:14] so case summary
again it's been open since december 2018
[2:43:20] the property owners made no attempt to
comply with clearly musical code or the
[2:43:24] california health and safety code
um
[2:43:27] it's a nuisance property in addition to
all the code enforcement detail uh the
[2:43:31] police department has responded 37 times
in the last five years there for people
[2:43:35] breaking in or people squatting in it
people dumping things there things like
[2:43:39] that
[2:43:46] the city's exhausted
all other means
[2:43:51] uh to reach voluntary compliance we even
looked into a possible receivership
[2:43:56] but it's not feasible so at this time
the staff recommends the city council
[2:44:00] grant the city manager the right to
execute a contract with turner
[2:44:05] excavating
[2:44:08] thank you
okay we have questions from
[2:44:11] council here mr purdue but mr kramer got
us up first
[2:44:24] turn that off
this all those photos of course were
[2:44:27] taken in 2018 and i fully agree that the
owner in 2018 was a very poor owner
[2:44:35] and um
but do you are you aware that he doesn't
[2:44:39] own it anymore that it was recently
purchased and the person purchasing it
[2:44:43] wants to
uh rehabit has met with the city about
[2:44:47] that yeah i think the city manager is
going to speak further about that um
[2:44:51] those photos though weren't all taking
into account the ones i saw were data
[2:44:54] yeah some are dated but the ones that
weren't data were actually taken this
[2:44:57] last year
[2:45:00] i have no doubt that
it needs a lot of work but again it's
[2:45:04] not the same owner
[2:45:11] i just wanna
[2:45:21] so i wasn't i just happened to be in the
city when he said he went over and paid
[2:45:24] the fees and came over
and and got the permits but he sounded
[2:45:29] like he was going to tear it down
because he was getting rating permits
[2:45:32] and stuff i'll be happy to address um
so
[2:45:36] yeah mr ching said a lot of things um
very few of which were true um
[2:45:41] he did he did pay
most of the administrative citations
[2:45:45] within the last 30 days
and i believe i talked to him a couple
[2:45:50] of times that was largely i think
motivated by
[2:45:55] the fact that he he saw an end of the
light for him to continue
[2:46:00] um just ignoring
the municipal code
[2:46:04] and um
but but one thing that has changed
[2:46:08] recently is that he did sell
this property and actually all of his
[2:46:14] properties in the city which i think is
is a very good thing
[2:46:19] because all of his properties are in
extremely poor condition
[2:46:22] and our inner code enforcement problems
um
[2:46:25] so
we did meet with the new owner there's a
[2:46:30] family that purchased this property and
a property that is just to the north
[2:46:36] which includes several residential units
and there was a separate
[2:46:40] um
um
[2:46:44] purchaser of the apartments by the
lamplighter between the lamplighter and
[2:46:48] the the apartments that we recently sold
so we did meet uh
[2:46:54] with the new owners
you know they
[2:46:58] the issues with this property were not
disclosed to them by mr ching and so
[2:47:04] they were unaware of some of the
situation
[2:47:08] i believe that they are very well
intentioned
[2:47:11] and have a
real desire to
[2:47:14] invest in the community and
turn these properties into something
[2:47:20] that will be
beneficial
[2:47:25] however as explained to them while the
citations were paid prior
[2:47:31] to the property being sold all the
violations remain
[2:47:34] and will need to be
addressed now they're doing an analysis
[2:47:39] on
um whether it's feasible for them you
[2:47:42] know they when they bought it their idea
was that they were going to
[2:47:46] renovate the building um
i think um
[2:47:52] you know i don't know if that's that's
feasible or not everyone that we've
[2:47:55] talked to said that it's not you can see
the condition of the building from the
[2:47:59] images
um and
[2:48:02] the new owner is on zoom it looks like
that she wanna may want to make some
[2:48:07] comments but um i have communicated this
to her
[2:48:12] and her husband but my request of the
council because of the history of this
[2:48:17] property
is that you still authorize me tonight
[2:48:20] to have the authority to
execute a contract to demolish this
[2:48:24] building if there's not significant
process or a progress from the new owner
[2:48:29] in
addressing the violations
[2:48:35] okay just a short question to you that
contract with
[2:48:39] chernow construction i believe how long
is that
[2:48:42] is that a 90 day
that's correct right it's i believe so
[2:48:47] yeah
oh if it's not
[2:48:49] work doesn't start in 90 day it's
null and void
[2:48:53] or well
we'd have to do another
[2:48:56] uh request for bids yeah the bid
wouldn't be good after that
[2:49:00] okay any more questions from staff uh
chief white please i i just wanted to
[2:49:05] add just for context um i believe the
other property that was purchased was
[2:49:08] one four five four one lake shore
and while we're cautiously optimistic
[2:49:13] about it um i would mention that has an
open case season as of right now there's
[2:49:17] overflowing garbage going all over the
area um so perhaps the proprietor might
[2:49:22] address that as well if they're i see
their hands right
[2:49:25] there's also numerous electric
violations on that property too with yes
[2:49:29] wires right laying on all over the place
all right we're going to open for public
[2:49:34] hearings
[2:49:40] lady that just purchased the property
now is your time to
[2:49:43] talk to us
[2:49:56] hello mayor and council members this is
rupa shaker here i'm sorry i am i didn't
[2:50:00] get ready for the
video because i'm away from the camera
[2:50:04] but i will just speak today uh very nice
to meet you all and thank you for
[2:50:08] providing this opportunity to meet with
you all and share my perspective it was
[2:50:13] great to meet mr flora and his team
yesterday and to hear his support so uh
[2:50:18] we're really immensely thankful for that
my name is as they all mentioned my my
[2:50:23] name is rupa shaker very new to clear
lake little story to share that i shared
[2:50:27] with everyone yesterday that i visited
clear lake with my family my two girls
[2:50:31] and my husband
in the month of april for a spring break
[2:50:34] tell in love with your town and fell in
love with your lake
[2:50:37] and since then i was kind of scrolling
on veteran and
[2:50:40] uh onsite online to look for lakeside
properties and then these two came along
[2:50:46] which is the one four five two five and
one four five four when we were excited
[2:50:52] and with big dreams we decided to
invest in your town on in these
[2:50:57] properties with a with a plan to make
this as a place to go
[2:51:02] for business shopping dining and
entertainment
[2:51:05] i've seen the
commercial unit and the pictures that
[2:51:09] was taken in 2018 looks much worse than
what i've seen
[2:51:13] um because everything in the interior
has been cleaned out since then i want
[2:51:17] to make this a place for a hangout for
tourists and look likes that's our dream
[2:51:22] we closed our escrow just less than a
month ago
[2:51:25] just few weeks ago and it was a
nightmare for us to hear that this
[2:51:30] discussion is happening in the city
which we were not aware of
[2:51:34] and we have already taken some steps to
uh uh you know improve the property you
[2:51:40] know small steps but still we removed
the junk inside the property and outside
[2:51:44] the property we uh boarded the place so
that no i like i know where the homeless
[2:51:50] people are hanging out and trashing the
place to avoid vandalism
[2:51:54] we have replaced the door at the back
and we do know about the water damage
[2:51:58] and then the electrical outlet problems
we will address that soon
[2:52:02] we kindly request you all to
give us some time
[2:52:06] to
make sure that the properties are taken
[2:52:10] care well
it takes a long time but will take small
[2:52:14] steps towards the improvement
so i just wanted to kind of request that
[2:52:18] we are given extra time rather than
hasting and demolishing and investing
[2:52:22] the 55 000 which could be
used for a different better purposes to
[2:52:28] improve the economy of the clear lake
that's all i have to say thank you for
[2:52:32] listening to me
thank you
[2:52:34] are there any other
people on the public that wants to speak
[2:52:38] on this issue right here
there are no further hands raised in the
[2:52:43] zoom we have one
public menu yeah
[2:52:47] mr huge
thank you uh
[2:52:51] mr mayor and city council uh dave hughes
realty world
[2:52:56] i got involved in this last week
when an architect that was up here to
[2:53:01] working with the
rupa and her husband
[2:53:05] called me and wanted to meet at the
property after he got done meeting at
[2:53:10] city hall
[2:53:14] i have suggested to the
buyers that they go back to the agent
[2:53:18] that they worked through
and find out why they weren't told about
[2:53:23] the ongoing issues
that's a pretty significant
[2:53:28] non-disclosure
so
[2:53:32] i would like to concur with her and
and ask that the city council give her
[2:53:36] some time to start trying to figure out
what the heck they can do or can't do or
[2:53:41] should do or might want to do
my other thought is
[2:53:47] i'm assuming that a bid
to demolish the building has to be done
[2:53:54] uh if the city gets the bid with
prevailing wage
[2:53:58] and
if it comes to the fact that the
[2:54:02] building needs to be demolished i think
the property owner should be given the
[2:54:06] opportunity to get her own bids
that might be a little less costly i
[2:54:12] have no idea but i'm assuming that the
bid had to be prevailing wage
[2:54:17] and i understand maybe the
desire to keep some fire under someone's
[2:54:24] feet and keep some pressure on to to get
something done because it's been three
[2:54:29] years now
but
[2:54:32] we do have a new property owner that had
no idea about the
[2:54:37] um
uh ongoing i mean her her architect told
[2:54:42] them last week after they closed escrow
about
[2:54:46] the the city wanting to demolish the
building
[2:54:49] so my my only purpose here is to
certainly give them some time to do it
[2:54:54] and maybe
not accept the bids um
[2:54:58] with the understanding that if there's
not ongoing progress the city is going
[2:55:02] to
press for the demolition
[2:55:05] uh but at least maybe give them the
opportunity to get their own bids which
[2:55:10] might be less money i'd like i said i
don't know but i'm assuming prevailing
[2:55:13] wage
is is part of the bids that have been
[2:55:16] submitted
thank you thank you uh
[2:55:20] mr president product has a comment well
just a question to the new property
[2:55:24] owner is it probably curing close no
it's not closed yet
[2:55:31] can you uh provide us with some sort of
a timeline when you said you wanted to
[2:55:35] get this work done
uh and you wanted to get um on it fairly
[2:55:39] soon but we didn't have any timelines
you have any idea when that when you
[2:55:42] might be able to get started
so to be honest with you i have a as a
[2:55:47] as uh mr
dave kind of mentioned i had my article
[2:55:51] come over look at it and i have a um you
know workers were started to work on it
[2:55:56] with making some minor modifications to
it
[2:56:00] as i shared with miss flora and team
this
[2:56:03] property you know cost money to
accelerate the improvement but i
[2:56:08] what i assure you is that we are
constantly making you i mean i have
[2:56:13] passed the improvements knowing that the
city is demolishing and i didn't want to
[2:56:17] put money into the demolishing property
so if you all give me time and say that
[2:56:22] yes you can continue to modify it and
improve it my work will start from
[2:56:26] monday we will make small improvements
check out the foundation check all the
[2:56:30] electrics check out the plumbing and i
need to fix the
[2:56:34] um there are some termite activities i
need to fix those so
[2:56:38] the improvements will start immediately
with a steady progress but i cannot give
[2:56:43] a timeline as to when it will be done
because i just bought the property three
[2:56:47] weeks back and i need time
[2:56:51] okay thank you
yeah and also while i'm on the audio i
[2:56:55] wanted to address the 15451 the
apartment building too
[2:56:58] uh even on that property we have started
off
[2:57:01] improvements meaning that last week we
cleaned up the property took out the
[2:57:05] junks cleaning the vegetation
we will install a new fence and then the
[2:57:10] glue overflowing garbage is due to two
reasons one is that it's an apartment
[2:57:15] complex and that particular garbage bin
is smaller from what i understand from
[2:57:18] my tenants and also i hear that a lot of
public dumping because it's right on the
[2:57:23] door many people come and dump other
junks in there so i'm taking the action
[2:57:27] requesting the required a department
within the city to give us a bigger bin
[2:57:32] and probably move the bin to the middle
of the property so that it's not easily
[2:57:36] accessible by the public and when i
install the
[2:57:39] uh fence maybe it'll
be less messy but i do agree with you
[2:57:43] all that the property is not in great
condition uh and it is not clean and i
[2:57:48] commit to make sure those two properties
are taken care and turned around and
[2:57:53] that's the reason why we dreamt of
buying a property in the lakeside and
[2:57:56] improve it and not to maintain the same
way it is otherwise you want about it
[2:58:00] and i know i paid premium for that from
what i hear and what i compare after
[2:58:04] buying it's an aftermath part but i
don't want to i'll learn the past but i
[2:58:07] want to move on
okay thank you um mr kramer your
[2:58:12] councilman graham
just just uh clarification uh rupa
[2:58:19] you've owned the property what less than
a month two weeks
[2:58:23] three weeks yes three weeks running now
and
[2:58:26] did you say that you already have people
in there cleaning it
[2:58:30] working on it oh yeah well yes many work
has already been done
[2:58:34] and i'm painting the i've got the bits
for painting the properties and i
[2:58:38] already as i mentioned made few
modifications the commercial with a new
[2:58:41] door installed from home depot etc
so yes the work has started
[2:58:46] but again i think one of the mayor or
the council member asked me what's the
[2:58:51] timeline i don't have a project plan to
give but what i assure you is that there
[2:58:54] will be progress on a daily basis in
small steps
[2:58:59] thank you
okay any any other
[2:59:02] public comments if not we'll bring them
back to the council mr flora look like
[2:59:06] you want to say something yeah i mean i
just want to clarify i mean you know
[2:59:10] the city isn't looking to spend 55 000
on this if it's not necessary i mean to
[2:59:16] mr hughes's comments of course
if um the current property owner was to
[2:59:22] demolish the building they would be able
to do it
[2:59:24] cheaper than we would
the only way for us to recover the funds
[2:59:29] is through a lien on the property which
we
[2:59:33] it doesn't get paid on unless
the property is transferred normally
[2:59:39] but you know this is a long-standing
issue
[2:59:42] it's one of the worst
looking properties in the city
[2:59:47] in one of our most visible corridors
and while i do believe that
[2:59:53] their intent is good
and
[2:59:56] they have the means to make some
investments in the property i believe
[3:00:00] that the city needs to apply as much
pressure as possible to make sure
[3:00:06] that the cleaning up of
this this um
[3:00:10] this parcel happens and so
you know if we were to move forward with
[3:00:15] the contract because there's a new owner
we'd be required
[3:00:20] to do a new round of noticing
and there will be an opportunity for
[3:00:26] an appeal of the
abatement which could come to the
[3:00:30] council correct
so you know there are some opportunities
[3:00:34] there but
you know i think we need to keep the
[3:00:39] pressure on to make sure that this um
extremely derelict um and extremely
[3:00:45] visible property in the city um is
improved as soon as possible
[3:00:50] more comments from the council
i have a question we happen to have a uh
[3:00:56] our attorney here and i'm concerned
about a an improper taking of property
[3:01:00] or
any any liability issues there well i
[3:01:05] understand your concern and mr floor and
i talked about this
[3:01:08] as recent as last week
i think there was a more of a due
[3:01:13] process and noticing issue
and and we would
[3:01:17] re-notice the new owner with all the
issues that mr ching had been notified
[3:01:22] of for years
and i think as long as you give that
[3:01:26] notice which
could would happen before any demolition
[3:01:29] would actually take place
so that would
[3:01:33] that would need to that would need to
take place otherwise you could have an
[3:01:35] issue of a of a taking or some kind of
what's the timeline for that 60 90 days
[3:01:40] 120 days 16. yeah i don't know that our
code says you usually give people a
[3:01:45] reasonable amount of time 30 days 60
days somewhere in that that time frame
[3:01:48] is that about right i'm not sure
yeah there's a variety of uh timelines
[3:01:53] and um if there was new noticing for the
notice of intent to abate and demolish
[3:01:58] there would be a hearing i believe it
would come back before council
[3:02:02] if that happened
[3:02:06] timeline
[3:02:09] for which portion
before we can tear that building down
[3:02:17] well correct me i'm wrong uh lee but i
believe it's going to be 21 days for the
[3:02:21] notice
correct
[3:02:24] yes would be 21 days and then if they
gave notice that they wanted to appeal
[3:02:27] then they'd post their deposit for a
hearing we'd set up for a hearing
[3:02:31] so
you know potentially depend upon how
[3:02:33] long that took out and i believe
city attorney correct me i'm wrong but i
[3:02:37] believe once we made a decision they
could try to take it to court if they've
[3:02:40] exhausted all their rights within the
city in terms of appeal process so
[3:02:44] potentially it could stretch out
um our experience with the property has
[3:02:48] generally been little to no response or
what i call informal kind of out-of-band
[3:02:53] responses like showing up in the lobby
that sort of thing
[3:02:58] and if we're talking about the old owner
i'd say let's go for it at this point
[3:03:01] but we're not we're talking about
somebody that just bought it has clearly
[3:03:06] shown an intent to try to do what's
right
[3:03:08] and it seems to me that to award this
contract right now is probably not going
[3:03:14] to happen anyway because with the
timelines for noticing for
[3:03:18] appeals etc etc so
i i just i don't see what we're
[3:03:23] accomplishing i understand mr flora your
your
[3:03:27] desire to keep pressure on
but i i just i don't i don't see it and
[3:03:32] i don't agree with it i think that she
should be given she and her partner
[3:03:37] should be given
time to perform or not
[3:03:41] and it's not going to take us three
years obviously to let that happen it's
[3:03:45] gonna
it's not gonna let it go that long but i
[3:03:48] don't think that this contract could can
happen in 90 days
[3:03:52] anyway
so
[3:03:55] i'm not in favor of it
also woman overton
[3:03:59] i i agree
i guess my one of my questions to the
[3:04:04] new owner is
um did you not see this place before you
[3:04:08] bought it
yes we did visit the place and when we
[3:04:12] visit the place it was not like the
picture that was shown
[3:04:15] the roof was taken out the roof the
floor was taken out there was little uh
[3:04:20] like the table tables and chairs from
the restaurant with stove etcetera so we
[3:04:26] knew it was a fixer-upper but
we thought that you know it's a
[3:04:29] fixer-upper so we'll start fixing up and
we will turn it around and
[3:04:34] because we're not gotten the mortgage
from the bank our intent is to get this
[3:04:39] ready get this rented i can start paying
my market so
[3:04:44] the plan is to move it around quickly
and i would like to support miss flora
[3:04:48] with his uh
expectation and work with him and keep
[3:04:51] him updated on a regular basis of the
progress we make
[3:04:55] and i want to support him
okay so can i ask a question here
[3:05:01] can we postpone this to another meeting
without making a vote on it today and
[3:05:06] just postpone it and see what she does
before we just say we're not going to do
[3:05:10] anything
can we table this well of course yeah i
[3:05:14] mean i say let's see what she does in a
couple of weeks and
[3:05:18] and i mean
you know the
[3:05:21] none of the violations have been cured
so
[3:05:24] um they have uh i don't know
if you discussed anything um
[3:05:30] yesterday with
you know how long they have to cure the
[3:05:34] violations but i mean there's going to
be
[3:05:36] other timelines
i i'm just exhausted with this property
[3:05:41] and i think
you know any daylight is too much
[3:05:45] daylight in my opinion but
and i'm i understand your frustration
[3:05:51] it's just this is like the last place
in this town
[3:05:55] that
can still have entertainment i mean
[3:05:58] literally
we keep asking for people to come to our
[3:06:02] city but we have nothing to offer them
and here's another building that we're
[3:06:06] going to take out the last building that
we have for entertainment
[3:06:10] i i i want to give her a chance to get
it i understand that that our the past
[3:06:15] owner was a real pain
um but i want to give her a chance and
[3:06:19] i've i've seen this happen where we
voted on something and the administrator
[3:06:22] said i'm not going to do anything and
next thing you know it was gone so um
[3:06:26] i just i feel like either we table it
and see what she does and
[3:06:30] and give her at least a little bit of a
chance give her one month or something
[3:06:34] to to see if you know what she can do
and then if we don't see a good progress
[3:06:39] then come back and bring it back to us
you know
[3:06:43] i thought chief white had a cook
i just i i don't want to interfere with
[3:06:47] your deliberation but i did want to make
the final plea at it and i think that
[3:06:51] the
commentary during the public comment is
[3:06:53] is illustrative there's a mention about
that they've already begun boarding up
[3:06:56] the building your council authorizes
ordinance that specifically prohibits
[3:07:00] that without a permit because we don't
want boarded up buildings in the city
[3:07:03] there's no indication in the record that
there's any attempt to obtain a permit
[3:07:07] or comply with the city codes
from just an objective perspective of
[3:07:11] watching these things i heard a lot of
discussion about well-intentioned and so
[3:07:15] forth and that may very well be the case
however
[3:07:19] the
lack of any basic checking i mean you
[3:07:22] saw the picture with the notice of
violation stacked on the front door and
[3:07:25] everything else there's very serious
issues here and i think that um you know
[3:07:30] at this point from the staff perspective
we've come to you because we've
[3:07:34] essentially done most everything that we
can do we can leverage with some more
[3:07:37] citations and so forth and i'd expect
actually following this meeting that we
[3:07:41] will initiate a whole new set of actions
based upon what's existing there and
[3:07:45] what new violations have been disclosed
i think that it's important
[3:07:51] when we get to these phases to
have some sort of tool to try to compel
[3:07:56] that compliance my fear is that
we wait another month we'll be right
[3:08:00] back at the same situation trying to ask
for the same authority and so forth
[3:08:05] and we just continue to kind of push the
problem down the road i think from the
[3:08:08] staff intent i don't want to spend a
dime trying to clean up this property if
[3:08:12] we can try to compel it obviously i
think there's good points we already
[3:08:15] discussed internally
about the fact they could do it at
[3:08:19] non-prevailing wage rates and so forth
um but it's important that we have a
[3:08:23] tool if we don't have that tool i hear a
lot of excuses on there even related to
[3:08:27] the other property uh since they brought
up
[3:08:30] every other city that i've been at you
have stuff enclosed in concrete barriers
[3:08:34] with doors there's no attempt to do that
out there
[3:08:37] and so i think that's the same type of
issues that we see here a lot of good
[3:08:40] intentions but i've seen a lot of
projects come into the city in the three
[3:08:43] years that i've been here that are well
intentioned
[3:08:46] but very basic elementary discovery
things weren't done we have people that
[3:08:50] buy houses here that call into code
enforcement and ask do you have open
[3:08:54] cases and so forth so um i hope that
it turns out differently but
[3:09:00] from the police department and code
enforcement perspective we would plead
[3:09:03] that you give the city manager
the authority to move forward if it's
[3:09:07] necessary in this particular case
hopefully it won't be and we'll all be
[3:09:11] surprised thank you
uh councilman claffy we haven't heard
[3:09:16] from you on this uh you have any
comments
[3:09:19] yeah i'm just listening to the the back
and forth i'm i'm
[3:09:22] i'm comfortable tabling for now
um
[3:09:26] you know i think three weeks is a very
short time
[3:09:30] to to start making changes it sounds
like there's a lot of changes that need
[3:09:34] to be made it sounds like there's a lot
of research that needs to be done by the
[3:09:37] owner and i think if we
if we keep that window tight we'll still
[3:09:41] be able to activate this bid
in a future council meeting i i don't
[3:09:47] see a downside to tabling it uh
re-noticing this owner and then moving
[3:09:52] forward if we need to if we're not
seeing progress
[3:09:56] all right thank you
councilman claffy vice mayor product i
[3:10:01] just need some clarification and i
apologize but
[3:10:05] if we approve this tonight
and we have a 90-day contract with the
[3:10:09] contra with the
demo
[3:10:12] um
when would you implement when would you
[3:10:16] when you would you
have them come in and demo
[3:10:19] um
would it be immediate after making this
[3:10:22] decision
or would you
[3:10:25] allow the new new owner to get the
permits as the chief has pointed out the
[3:10:30] chief made a very compelling argument
just now
[3:10:33] um
[3:10:35] i just want to know um reasonableness
on this what would a reasonable person
[3:10:39] do well i mean i think um
[3:10:44] you know until
yesterday the new owners didn't have the
[3:10:49] list of existing violations
um
[3:10:52] and so obviously we need to provide a
little bit of time i mean what we
[3:10:56] discussed was the first thing you need
to do i mean we had some discussion
[3:11:00] about what happens next and what their
vision is for the property and all that
[3:11:04] that's great but you know we have all
these violations that have to be cured
[3:11:08] somehow which are you know are way past
due so
[3:11:11] they need to come back with a plan um
right that's what i was asking about
[3:11:16] how to deal with that so
you know i think there's no reason that
[3:11:20] they shouldn't be able to develop some
type of plan on that in a couple of
[3:11:23] weeks
talking with the contractor are they
[3:11:26] already have you know consulted with an
architect so
[3:11:30] um you know i really uh
think that there should be a
[3:11:34] determination made within a few weeks on
whether it's even feasible to keep the
[3:11:39] building or if they want to begin
investing in
[3:11:44] in resolving those things i mean you
know i i hope i was clear like
[3:11:49] my intention wouldn't be or you know the
staff's intention to turn around next
[3:11:53] week and issue
the um abatement contract as much as i
[3:11:58] would love to see
or never see that building again but um
[3:12:02] you know obviously the the situation
here while you know it's clear there
[3:12:07] wasn't no enough due diligence done i
believe you know a short window
[3:12:11] is reasonable for them to try and
attempt this i'm just concerned as chief
[3:12:16] white mentioned um
you know i think
[3:12:21] you know the the council has always been
really good about drawing a firm line on
[3:12:26] these code enforcement cases because the
blight has overtaken the city for years
[3:12:32] and
you know i just think
[3:12:36] the pressure to perform needs to be
there
[3:12:41] that's my
you have some more go ahead mr graham
[3:12:47] chief white you do make a compelling
argument and if we were talking about
[3:12:50] the old owner i absolutely totally agree
with you again we're not
[3:12:55] uh to table this for two weeks and give
her an opportunity to come up with some
[3:12:59] sort of a plan or maybe come up the
conclusion that oh christ we can't do
[3:13:02] anything like this
let's give her that two weeks it's
[3:13:05] what's it gonna hurt you're still within
your window to
[3:13:08] to approve the
the demolition contract with the with
[3:13:12] the contractor
so i i very much would like to see his
[3:13:17] table list
[3:13:20] and that's all i had to say
um
[3:13:24] i went in the building after they kind
of cleaned it up and it's in my opinion
[3:13:29] and i'm not an expert i'm not a
structural engineer i'm not a thing
[3:13:33] uh
i i really
[3:13:36] don't see how they can fix this building
up with a substantial
[3:13:41] a lot of structural improvements
this is a building that needs hundreds
[3:13:46] of thousands of dollars
in order to save it
[3:13:50] so i
[3:13:53] obviously
we want to
[3:13:56] give the new owner
a chance
[3:14:00] and if they address them
citations in a
[3:14:04] two or three week time frame
if that's if they're willing to uh
[3:14:11] to invest that kind of money in and
reboot in
[3:14:15] remodeling and upgrading that building
more power to them because i wouldn't
[3:14:22] so what do we have
we have three people that want to table
[3:14:25] that so how do we do that
mr uh
[3:14:30] i think you just don't need to take any
action no action no action okay
[3:14:35] all right looks like the new owner has
probably three weeks to deal with this
[3:14:40] thank you very much
we appreciate you well hold on mr mayor
[3:14:44] do you intend to bring that back to
council
[3:14:47] i i it all depends on what happens
in the next few weeks if nothing happens
[3:14:52] you'll bring this back
would you like to get yes
[3:14:56] yes bring it back yes we will
like to hear it again
[3:15:00] all right we'll go to item number
18
[3:15:05] mr allen florence
jordan
[3:15:10] okay uh mr mayor members of the council
um so
[3:15:14] i'll be brief on this but um
[3:15:19] you know we've we've been uh
so mli associates uh which uh mr matt
[3:15:25] patel is the sole owner
um is a an experienced um hotel
[3:15:30] developer and we've been talking to him
for a while about a couple of project
[3:15:35] opportunities in the city
um
[3:15:38] most recently um
we've been negotiating about developing
[3:15:42] a hotel
at the former pierce field on
[3:15:45] approximately two and a half acres of
land
[3:15:48] we have been able to negotiate a
purchase and sale agreement with mr
[3:15:53] patel
and
[3:15:55] so i can kind of go over
a few of the points hopefully you've had
[3:16:00] a chance to review the agreement um
one thing
[3:16:04] taking a look at the map the well so
first of all the
[3:16:09] proposed project would be a 75 room
fairfield inn
[3:16:14] with a small conference center and
possibly some other retail on the site
[3:16:18] um and just for context this site is on
the far northern part of the property
[3:16:24] that's owned by the city at the end of
the former runway
[3:16:28] and um so the sale price for the
probably 305 thousand the city would
[3:16:33] hold a note
um on so there would be a 50 000
[3:16:38] uh
payment made
[3:16:42] and then
the city would hold a note on the rest
[3:16:45] the way the agreement is structured is
there be a number of deadlines
[3:16:51] the first one being 14 months after
closing
[3:16:54] to get all entitlements complete
20 months after closing
[3:17:01] would be
[3:17:04] to begin construction and then the total
project would need to be complete within
[3:17:10] three years
and if those each of those deadlines are
[3:17:13] met
the remaining
[3:17:16] payments
on the note would be forgiven and this
[3:17:19] is just a way to
you know this is kind of our
[3:17:24] first tangible project moving forward at
the airport so there is increased risk
[3:17:29] on the developer in in taking that first
step
[3:17:34] we have a number of other things in
process that we're excited about we'll
[3:17:38] be
coming forward soon
[3:17:41] um but anyway that's the the way that we
had structured this deal that showed
[3:17:46] some commitment from mr patel
and then the city
[3:17:49] will be
installing infrastructure
[3:17:53] essentially to the site
as we have intended with the other
[3:17:58] developer parcels
there on in the whole area so
[3:18:03] i guess with that i'll just try to
address any questions that the council
[3:18:07] has and then i know mr patel is is here
on zoom so he may want to make some some
[3:18:13] comments to the council as well
[3:18:18] david
mr
[3:18:32] you might
zoom
[3:18:44] do we have any
public comments on this item madam clerk
[3:18:50] go ahead mr patel if you'd like to make
some comments
[3:18:54] uh
thank you now uh good afternoon good
[3:18:56] evening mr mayor uh council members
uh chief
[3:19:02] gentlemen it's been a pleasure working
with
[3:19:05] alan and the rest of the team over the
last few months uh just to let you know
[3:19:10] that marriott committee has approved the
site for fairfield and so this is part
[3:19:13] of the marriott product
and
[3:19:16] you know we're looking forward to
developing and uh building that uh
[3:19:20] relationship with the city for a long
time here and uh i had multiple
[3:19:25] conversations with the different
individuals including uh rachel and mark
[3:19:29] king
uh who's also working with the financing
[3:19:33] and then also construction i've been
working with the bridges construction so
[3:19:38] most of the individuals i've been
working with this all local so i intend
[3:19:42] to utilize most of the
local trade i hear local individuals and
[3:19:47] uh
trying to
[3:19:49] support the community
[3:19:53] thank you uh do we have any other
comments from the public
[3:19:57] i received two emailed comments mr mayor
which i can read out loud if you wish
[3:20:03] please do
the first is from sarah mcnabb who
[3:20:08] states
i've been living in this county all my
[3:20:11] life and since the fires have started
there has been a major issue with
[3:20:15] housing i've been looking for a
three-bedroom house apartment for about
[3:20:20] four years seeing as i have three
children
[3:20:22] ten-year-old boy and two girls thirteen
four
[3:20:26] and i've been stuck in a two bedroom in
the clear lake apartments for 14 years
[3:20:30] which is falling apart
i can't find anything under 1800 and
[3:20:34] more and more people keep moving here so
as a long time resident i don't think we
[3:20:39] need another hotel that's going to turn
into a drug addict filled flop hotel
[3:20:44] we need more housing like apartments
nice ones or condos something
[3:20:49] there are
a lot of family that are struggling are
[3:20:53] homeless because the lack of housing
think about the community for once and
[3:20:58] not tourists
because we get those anyway
[3:21:02] this town has turned into a miniature
oakland or even worse detroit sorry for
[3:21:06] being so blunt but it is the reality for
the low income and the sad minimum wage
[3:21:11] pay we get around here
the second is from wyatt harris
[3:21:17] who states isn't 305 000 low for a 2.5
acre commercial property especially when
[3:21:24] the city will probably spend more money
on the promised
[3:21:27] new utilities infrastructure and roads
to the site why isn't purchasing this
[3:21:32] property open to the public
and that concludes the emailed comments
[3:21:36] that i've received and i don't see that
there are any hands raised on zoom
[3:21:41] all right we'll bring it back to the
council do you have any more
[3:21:45] discussion at the council
[3:21:50] bought this property am i not correct
it's been for sale for it's been as long
[3:21:54] as i can remember
way too long um there is one point
[3:21:58] though that i forgot to mention that um
so
[3:22:02] the existing parcel is um 200 feet wide
the
[3:22:08] fairfield plan requires 240 foot
[3:22:13] site
so there's some paper roads on both
[3:22:16] sides of that parcel so
the agreement envisions that we will
[3:22:21] abandon the right-of-way and
on one side
[3:22:26] some of it will go
to other city parcels some will go to
[3:22:30] this property
he's agreed to go ahead and enter into
[3:22:34] the agreement with us while we're
undertaking that but our city engineers
[3:22:38] already been working on that process and
there'll be a public hearing and whatnot
[3:22:41] that would would come back and finalize
that road abandonment so i just want to
[3:22:45] make sure the council knew about that
all right
[3:22:49] okay one more
okay so this is for the gentleman that
[3:22:52] was on his comment um many cities give
property for development it's very
[3:22:59] common and put the infrastructure in and
everything when it was going to provide
[3:23:04] taxes and jobs and and bring in people
especially hotels so
[3:23:09] years ago i said give the property to
anybody that will develop and give us
[3:23:13] jobs and bring in you know some some
money to our city so that we can develop
[3:23:17] our parks and stuff like that um this
this person's taking a big chance on the
[3:23:22] property
uh it may you know it's been sitting
[3:23:25] there for years and it may end up being
a failure for him so we have to you know
[3:23:31] take the chance too but we want to
develop that and this is the first step
[3:23:34] of as far as i can see is really getting
interest in developing when one person
[3:23:39] starts then other
other entities start following in
[3:23:43] because they see something's going to
happen so i really do believe
[3:23:47] if i didn't think it was going to
benefit our community i would not
[3:23:50] approve this but i i think this is a
good way to get that property started
[3:23:54] developed
[3:23:56] okay thank you councilman cramer i
completely concur with what councilwoman
[3:24:02] overton just said i i was going to say
it myself she lead me to it
[3:24:08] um if you're ready to entertain a motion
i'm ready to make one i want to see if
[3:24:12] mr claffy has any comments well i i
concur as well and i will say i love the
[3:24:16] way the deal structured so great job to
the city staff i'm looking forward to
[3:24:20] seeing this come to fruition
all right very good um
[3:24:27] can i have a motion
[3:24:30] mr mayor i'd like to move that we
council authorizes the city manager to
[3:24:36] execute the purchase and sale agreement
with mli associates llc
[3:24:40] for sale of property at 6356
armejo
[3:24:45] avenue in clear lake here we have a
motion by councilman cramer
[3:24:50] and we have a second by councilwoman
overton
[3:24:53] all in favor say aye
[3:24:57] all right we'll move to item number 19.
[3:25:06] i guess this is mr dave sports item
mr schwartz is going to start and then
[3:25:12] i'll wrap it up
yeah good evening mayor members of the
[3:25:16] council with great pleasure i get to
have another measure v project as
[3:25:21] scheduled on
a schedule we provided and have been
[3:25:25] working off of for about three years now
this measure v project
[3:25:31] consists of
streets of what we call elevated north
[3:25:34] and alaba south howard
gulf
[3:25:39] mullin and acacia
what you see before you has been broken
[3:25:44] out because
into a couple of bit additive alternates
[3:25:48] and logistically the reason was which
allen will cover is
[3:25:52] you know not knowing where the measure v
funds are going to come in at so we what
[3:25:56] we did is we created a base bid project
of what we were confident
[3:26:01] that we'd have funding for and then we
broke the other streets out
[3:26:05] as bit out of alternates and that was
just for financing purposes now i want
[3:26:09] to cover that
these uh roads uh are obviously in
[3:26:13] pretty poor shape the uh
construction includes a new asphalt
[3:26:18] concrete
where appropriate we'll put
[3:26:21] rolled concrete curb and gutter
and where appropriate we'll put ac dyke
[3:26:28] it also includes a lot of storm drain
improvements to take care of a lot of
[3:26:32] the localized flooding in particular
um if approved tonight
[3:26:37] mullins is is gonna is a big one for
storm drain a lot of storm drain pipe
[3:26:41] and that the other ones are pretty minor
and the other thing i'd like to bring
[3:26:44] forth is that
this product this measure v project was
[3:26:49] a catalyst for
[3:26:52] helping highlands water company move
forward with the substantial
[3:26:56] water line improvements in these areas
[3:27:00] due to an ordinance that the city passed
about a year and a half ago which said
[3:27:04] if you have a leak
in our street
[3:27:07] you've got to pave the street they don't
like that so
[3:27:11] this prod that ordinance along with our
projects now we're getting a lot of new
[3:27:15] water lines water services and enhanced
water service for that matter with fire
[3:27:19] hydrants and stuff we'll be happy to
entertain any questions about the
[3:27:23] technical aspects of the project if we
have any questions from so just to
[3:27:28] clarify hyland's water will be replacing
summer is in the process now replacing
[3:27:32] water lines in those streets they're
opening bids tomorrow
[3:27:36] and that'll happen
can happen quickly ahead of
[3:27:40] in front of us yes
great
[3:27:44] just to follow up any other utilities
that are would be impacted
[3:27:47] by this project that would need to be
updated
[3:27:50] not to my knowledge we coordinated with
special districts
[3:27:54] you know we we send send our plans and
specs now we have joint utility meetings
[3:27:58] with uh all all parties involved and
highlands was the one that thanks take
[3:28:03] care of it all right
uh
[3:28:05] councilman claffy any comments
uh no
[3:28:09] all right
so can i make some comments
[3:28:12] so
um
[3:28:15] uh granite construction was low bidder
um
[3:28:19] and you know
mr schwartz mentioned the additive
[3:28:23] alternates so
we don't have uh quite enough funding in
[3:28:28] measure v to do the whole two million
dollar
[3:28:31] project
and so there's really two options the
[3:28:35] council could decide to
just toward a smaller project
[3:28:40] and use the funds that we have now
what staff's actually recommending since
[3:28:45] the project has all this has been
designed
[3:28:48] and it's ready to go
that we go ahead and do an internal loan
[3:28:53] from some of our other projects complete
everything
[3:28:56] this year and then um
we will use measure v revenues from next
[3:29:02] year
in order to to pay that loan back to the
[3:29:05] city
and um
[3:29:09] i guess we've changed the numbers a
couple times um i i don't know if you
[3:29:13] want to speak chief white you may you
were working on them last i don't want
[3:29:16] to misspeak but um what we're
recommending is that we
[3:29:22] go ahead and make a budget adjustment
for the project amount and up to the
[3:29:27] maximum 10
um change order amount so that all
[3:29:31] that's covered and then of course if we
don't need the money then then um
[3:29:37] we won't spend it
um do you want to address the numbers
[3:29:40] real quick chief
sure um so conservatively estimating the
[3:29:45] loan could be up to 1.2 million the
impact would be in fiscal year 2223
[3:29:50] for measure v removing our estimated
operating costs you would have about
[3:29:54] between 400 to 450 000
for projects that year
[3:29:59] one thing to mention is public works is
doing a huge amount of projects so i
[3:30:02] don't think there's going to be a lot of
pushback to slow down a little bit then
[3:30:06] and the reality is with the pace of work
and everything else you probably
[3:30:10] wouldn't otherwise know because projects
are going to continue going on so i
[3:30:14] think from a financial perspective if
you choose to do the loan um it's a low
[3:30:18] risk it's just basically pushing stuff
ahead and we have um from a cash flow
[3:30:22] perspective we're fortunate to have
funding to be able to do this sort of
[3:30:25] thing
thank you
[3:30:27] yeah and the the funding that we're
recommending adjusting would be um
[3:30:31] series a funding that in our recent
budget we set aside for the highlands
[3:30:35] park uh project which
um you know we're hoping that we'll get
[3:30:39] awarded the grant this year but
construction isn't likely to happen um
[3:30:44] within this fiscal year anyway so you
know it shouldn't slow down anything
[3:30:48] else
and you know we'll still be able to get
[3:30:51] some measure view projects done next
year no doubt um there still will be
[3:30:55] funding there
you know we are
[3:30:58] currently thinking about expanding the
chip seal program to do maybe twice as
[3:31:02] much or something as we did even this
year
[3:31:06] which is a low cost and so you know with
the sports complex
[3:31:10] infrastructure at the airport we have a
second modoc project um
[3:31:16] next year and then the house center
south center drive and dam road
[3:31:20] extension so there's still going to be a
ton of projects happening next year even
[3:31:24] if we kind of spend a little bit less of
measure v dollars than we are this year
[3:31:31] all right so and the and
what you would be requesting for to move
[3:31:36] funds from would be what's covered in
item number
[3:31:40] number 20. yeah that action would be the
next item we just wanted to make sure
[3:31:44] that if you decide
that you want to
[3:31:47] um
not take that option just say award the
[3:31:50] base bid that we kind of have this
discussion all together
[3:31:56] all right
um
[3:31:58] i have to open it to the public yes do
you have any comments from the public on
[3:32:02] this
[3:32:04] there are no comments from the public
from no hands raised on the zoom there's
[3:32:09] no attendees we'll bring it back to the
council uh mr claffey councilman claffy
[3:32:15] any comments
uh no like the plan
[3:32:18] okay very good
um
[3:32:20] do i entertain a motion mr mayor i'd
like to authorize a city manager to
[3:32:23] enter under contract with granite
construction for construction of the
[3:32:27] 2021 measure v pavement rehabilitate
rehabilitation project base and the
[3:32:32] additive
alternatives for the total amount of 2
[3:32:36] million
223
[3:32:39] 121 and 50 cents and authorize the city
manager to approve up to 10
[3:32:44] for additional unforeseen contract
amendments no second that okay we have a
[3:32:48] motion by vice mayor perdoc and second
by councilman kramer all in favor all
[3:32:54] right
okay item number
[3:32:57] 20.
[3:33:05] chief white this is
thank you mayor um good evening again
[3:33:10] this item is to accomplish two things
it's the uh amendment to the 2021-22
[3:33:15] budget uh the first item is basically to
appropriate the unspent portion of the
[3:33:20] caltrans local road safety plan uh grant
and basically it's coming out of
[3:33:25] existing funding so there's no negative
impact to the budget
[3:33:30] the second portion of it is to do what
we just talked about and and just a
[3:33:34] background on why there's a change in
the um
[3:33:37] the numbers is as you heard earlier with
the audit we're still adjusting things
[3:33:42] uh to figure out the amounts but as i
mentioned to you
[3:33:45] the loan could be up to 1.2 million
roughly um between the two funds um but
[3:33:51] i believe there's sufficient cash flow
to cover doing that um and you have the
[3:33:55] option well it sounds like from your
prior vote that your intention is to to
[3:33:59] go ahead and do that so i think we're
safe to uh to let that happen we did
[3:34:03] pass out we had to amend the
the resolution that was included in the
[3:34:07] agenda to make a correction on the
movement of money it's more of an
[3:34:09] accounting thing
but that's been passed out to you i mean
[3:34:13] just in the transparency it's basically
just showing that there's a transfer out
[3:34:17] from measure b of one point seven eight
six five five one um and that that's
[3:34:21] going to the capital projects fund uh as
a transfer in and then basically on the
[3:34:26] back end we'll do a loan for whatever
amounts there once the dust settles on
[3:34:29] what the actual fund balance is
because we don't have a hard number on
[3:34:32] that it's an estimate at this point
based upon estimated tax revenues
[3:34:37] all right we have any
questions
[3:34:41] for staff
if not well the public hearing we have
[3:34:45] any comments from the public
[3:34:50] we
we don't have any attendees on our zoom
[3:34:53] meeting and i've not received any emails
regarding this item
[3:34:58] all right
uh
[3:35:02] any more comments from the council we'll
bring it back to the council if not i'd
[3:35:05] entertain a motion mr mayor
i'd like to move that
[3:35:12] we approve resolution number 2021-37
adoption of the first amendment to the
[3:35:18] fiscal year 21
2021-22 budget resolution number
[3:35:24] 2021-33
appropriating revenue from the caltrans
[3:35:28] local roadway safety plan grant and the
2021 measure v projects
[3:35:34] second we have a motion by councilman
cramer in a second by vice mayor perdoc
[3:35:39] all in favor sorry hi hi
all right we'll move on to our next item
[3:35:45] which is item number 21.
[3:35:50] me too all right
uh item 21. mr allen flora
[3:35:56] yes mr mayor members of the council
um so as you know we've been negotiating
[3:36:01] with all of these bargaining groups um
we've reached tentative agreements with
[3:36:05] all of them that we feel is both
physically responsible and respects the
[3:36:09] heart and dedicated work of our
employees
[3:36:12] the first one before you is the clinic
miscellaneous employees association
[3:36:16] so the key deal points are a one year
agreement with a three percent cost of
[3:36:20] living adjustment
a two thousand dollar one-time payment
[3:36:24] and recognition of their hard work and
dedication to the city
[3:36:28] additional one percent salary adjustment
in lieu of various other adjustments
[3:36:32] within the mou removing or reducing
other compensation
[3:36:37] there is language in all these
agreements which is an agreement to meet
[3:36:41] and confer regarding additional
compensation that can be converted into
[3:36:45] base pay there's also some adjustments
in this one related to uniform
[3:36:50] regulations
the final thing that i wanted to point
[3:36:53] out is i you should have a hard copy
there was
[3:36:56] one section under sick leave that was
inadvertently deleted
[3:37:00] and so that reflects that section 9.1
being
[3:37:06] back remaining in the in the agreement
and the previous section 9.2 is removed
[3:37:11] and that's what's related to the 1
salary adjustment so i would be happy to
[3:37:15] address any questions that you may have
okay we have any question for staff
[3:37:23] 9.1 remains 9.2 is removed yes
okay
[3:37:27] no question from staff we hope the
public hearing any
[3:37:31] public comment on this item adam clark
[3:37:35] there are no hands raised in the zoom or
attendees and i've not received any
[3:37:39] emailed comments okay we'll bring it
back to the council any more discussions
[3:37:43] if not i entertain a motion
mayor i'd like to
[3:37:47] present the adoption adopt the
memorandum of understanding between the
[3:37:51] city of clear lake and the city uh
miscellaneous employee association and
[3:37:55] authorize the city manager to say okay
we have a motion by councilwoman overton
[3:38:00] you have a second
second we have a section of advice may
[3:38:03] have product
all in favor all right
[3:38:08] all right how about a small little break
yeah five minute break
[3:38:14] five minute break
make it quick
[3:38:26] huh
[3:42:35] all right we go
back in session here we go to
[3:42:40] item number 22
consideration of a memorandum of
[3:42:44] understanding between the city of clear
lake and
[3:42:48] the clear lake police officers
association
[3:42:51] period
2021 to 2022.
[3:42:56] thank you mister
yes um so the key points on this
[3:43:00] agreement a one-year agreement with
three percent cost of living adjustment
[3:43:04] 1500
1500 one-time payment in recognition of
[3:43:09] employees hard work and dedication to
the city a six percent salary adjustment
[3:43:13] in lieu of various um adjustments to the
mou removing or reducing other
[3:43:17] compensation and then again the
agreement to meet and confer regarding
[3:43:21] additional compensation that can be
converted
[3:43:23] into base pay
with that i'll try to address any
[3:43:27] questions the council has okay we have
any questions from council no questions
[3:43:31] no questions
no questions councilman claffy any
[3:43:35] comments no questions
okay very good uh open to the public any
[3:43:40] comments from the public
[3:43:44] there are no attendees on the zoom and i
have not received any email comments
[3:43:49] all right we'll bring it back to the
council
[3:43:51] any more discussion while i entertain a
motion
[3:43:54] mr mayor like to make motion to adopt
memorandum of understanding between the
[3:43:59] city of clear lake and the clear lake
police officers association
[3:44:02] and authorizes city manager to sign it
second we have a motion by councilman
[3:44:07] cramer and the second by vice mayor
burdock all in favor say aye aye aye
[3:44:13] okay move right along to item number 23.
mr allen florida
[3:44:19] yes mr mayor so this agreement is with
the clear lake middle management
[3:44:23] association
so the key deal points in this case a
[3:44:27] two-year agreement with the three
percent cost of living adjustment each
[3:44:30] year
fifteen hundred dollar one-time payment
[3:44:33] recognition of the employee's hard work
and dedication to the city and a nine
[3:44:37] percent salary adjustment in lieu of
various other adjustments within the mou
[3:44:42] removing or reducing other compensation
and then finally the agreement to me and
[3:44:46] confer regarding additional compensation
that can be converted to base pay
[3:44:50] over the next year with that i'll
address any questions that counts a lot
[3:44:53] right any questions from staff
if not go ahead so so these uh
[3:44:59] the salary adjustments are your that's
where you're taking away from some
[3:45:03] things and just adding it into their
base pay am i correct the for the in
[3:45:07] this case yeah so the the cost of living
adjustment to three percent is all
[3:45:11] additional
um the nine percent in this case is
[3:45:16] taking um incentives that
the employees already receive and taking
[3:45:22] that funding and converting it into base
all pay thank you
[3:45:26] all right uh councilman you have any
questions no questions
[3:45:31] all right welcome to the public any
comments from the public madam club
[3:45:35] there are no attendees on the zoom and
i've not received any emailed comments
[3:45:39] on this item okay we'll bring it back to
the council any more questions if not i
[3:45:43] have obtained a motion
mr mayor i'd like to make a motion to a
[3:45:48] dog memorandum of understanding between
the city of clearly and the clear lake
[3:45:52] middle management association authorizes
city manager to sign
[3:45:56] we have a motion by vice mayor perdoc in
a second by councilwoman overton all in
[3:46:01] favor say aye aye aye
[3:46:05] we're moving on
to number 24. mr alan flora
[3:46:10] yes mr mayor members of the council so
the um employees of the city that are
[3:46:14] unrepresented and not in one of the
other three groups
[3:46:18] most of the benefits are outlined by the
city's management benefit plan
[3:46:25] in that plan it states that management
employees
[3:46:30] shall receive a salary adjustment each
july 1st
[3:46:34] based on the march to march all urban
cities consumer price index
[3:46:40] based on the labor market and then the
financial condition of the city
[3:46:44] and so
so march 2020 to march 21
[3:46:48] cpi
was 2.6
[3:46:52] um and so that's what we're recommending
uh the council approve for um
[3:46:59] those employees and i just wanted to to
point out i'm sure most of you are
[3:47:03] watching
the economic situation and
[3:47:07] inflation is is really ramping up just
as a little bit of a perspective
[3:47:13] april that april year over year was 4.9
percent
[3:47:17] may was five percent and um i'm not sure
if i recall the the june numbers but i
[3:47:22] think they're even higher yet than than
five percent so
[3:47:26] anyway um with that i'll try to address
any questions counselor you have any
[3:47:29] questions from staff
no
[3:47:32] councilman clappy anything no questions
all right i'll open the public hearing
[3:47:37] any
comments from the public madam clerk
[3:47:41] there are no comments from the public
and i've not received any email comments
[3:47:45] okay we'll bring it back to the council
if there's no further questions i'd
[3:47:49] entertain a motion
mayor i'd like to make the motion to
[3:47:52] adopt cpi adjustments for the management
employees for the management benefit
[3:47:56] plan
second okay we have a motion by
[3:47:58] councilwoman overton and the second by
council man cramer
[3:48:03] um all in favor say aye aye
moving right along here
[3:48:12] actually i want to make one little
comment
[3:48:14] at this point we just adopted
four
[3:48:20] memorandums of understanding
and and having to do with the salaries
[3:48:25] of our
our
[3:48:28] employees of the city
and i'm very proud that uh we're the
[3:48:32] highest payer
in the county
[3:48:35] that's been my goal and
we accomplished that so thank you very
[3:48:38] much
all right designation item number 25
[3:48:44] madam clerk
[3:48:47] honorable mayor and council members the
league of california city's annual
[3:48:51] conference this year is scheduled for
september 22nd through the 24th and the
[3:48:56] conference is
planning to be held in person in
[3:49:00] sacramento
and at this meeting the league
[3:49:03] membership considers and takes action on
resolutions that establish league policy
[3:49:09] in order to vote at the annual business
meeting each year the city council must
[3:49:13] designate a voting delegate and can
appoint then up to two alternates in
[3:49:18] addition to that delegate all council
members are planning to attend
[3:49:23] the uh the conference
and although we've not received
[3:49:27] information on the issues coming up for
a vote yet it is appropriate for the
[3:49:33] council to designate a voting delegate
and up to two alternates at this time
[3:49:38] any comments or any ideas
um
[3:49:42] i
if i want to address something i think
[3:49:45] uh councilwoman overton has been a long
time representative so i think
[3:49:50] i think she would be as the voting
delegate
[3:49:53] and is there anybody that uh wants to be
an
[3:49:57] alternate
[3:49:59] and i'm willing to continue in that
please do so council woman overton
[3:50:07] all right
everybody to go to the you know and i
[3:50:10] plan on attending and i was the uh
senator before
[3:50:14] councilman because i went over to so all
right it's good to see everybody there
[3:50:18] going there so that's kind of cool
all right
[3:50:22] i guess we have to open this to a public
hearing
[3:50:25] do we have any comments from the public
on this item
[3:50:30] there are no public comments on this
item and i've not received any emailed
[3:50:34] comments all right we'll bring them back
to the council so
[3:50:37] can i have a recommendation
[3:50:42] mr mr mayor i would recommend
councilwoman overton as our voting
[3:50:47] member and council member perdoc and
kramer as our alternates
[3:50:52] all right can we have a second on that
second all right we have a motion by
[3:50:56] councilman claffy and a second vice
mayor perdoc all in favor say aye all
[3:51:01] right
all right
[3:51:04] mr mayor if i could interrupt really
quick so on the poa agreement that you
[3:51:08] just approved um chief white just
noticed in his thoroughness that um
[3:51:14] the
for some reason the detective is missing
[3:51:17] from the list of special assignments
um and so
[3:51:22] uh the city attorney said that um if
you're all okay with making a note of
[3:51:26] adding that back in that's okay if you
want to have some further discussion
[3:51:31] about whether to do that or not then we
would have to take an action to
[3:51:33] reconsider the item but so how can we do
that
[3:51:39] i
based on if you're
[3:51:42] in concurrence of what the city manager
said and were that was fine and that'd
[3:51:47] be part of your motion then we don't
need to reconsider it if you don't want
[3:51:50] that then we should probably
vote again to reconsider and pull it out
[3:51:55] of it
mr mayor it was my understanding that
[3:51:58] that was already in so was it mine yeah
it's just a clerical error right i mean
[3:52:03] it's it's an assignment that we've had
yeah so you're okay with that i am
[3:52:08] okay very good so you have your
okay we'll go to city manager and
[3:52:14] council report
[3:52:16] okay um i have have a few items so um
we received uh just over 1.8 million in
[3:52:25] federal funding today through the our
program which we'll be using for
[3:52:29] infrastructure so glad to see that come
in and
[3:52:33] the other half of that funding we should
receive and i believe may of next year
[3:52:38] so we'll still be in this fiscal year
okay right
[3:52:42] well it's the american rescue
um i forget exactly the plan act or
[3:52:48] something
[3:52:52] so um we had a bit opening for the
sulfur fire road rehabilitation project
[3:52:57] today bids came in um unexpectedly low
um
[3:53:02] the low bid being um just over 6.4
million um
[3:53:07] so
that's great uh granite
[3:53:11] construction was the low bidder who was
also the
[3:53:15] contractor that i'll be doing in the
measure v project so i think the timing
[3:53:19] for all those projects is going to work
out great
[3:53:24] now the problem we have is we just have
to um
[3:53:27] figure out some way to spend an
additional 5 million because
[3:53:31] that's not a problem
the the bids were much much lower than
[3:53:35] we expected and so
good problem
[3:53:39] yeah we'll take it
[3:53:44] well there's a lot of limits on the use
of those funds in that program there has
[3:53:48] to be a tie back to the 2017 disaster
and whatnot so
[3:53:52] we've been kicking around a few ideas
left to consult with hcd obviously we
[3:53:56] don't want to do anything that delays
the current project we have in front of
[3:54:00] us
but i'm sure we'll figure out some way
[3:54:04] um we definitely don't want to let the
money go back
[3:54:10] um so uh we are in the process of
listing um
[3:54:15] 23 properties in the city that are owned
and available for
[3:54:20] low density residential development
to get the word out on those we're also
[3:54:24] finally
really rolling out the homestead program
[3:54:28] and so those properties will be listed
with a price if someone comes forward
[3:54:32] through the homestead program and likes
that property
[3:54:36] we will still give it to them
if they qualify
[3:54:43] it's been a little while since we talked
about cannabis permits but as you know
[3:54:46] there were a number of
the previously issued permits that
[3:54:50] there's not much activity
we issued letters to all of the permit
[3:54:55] holders i believe it was in march and
informed them that if they did not take
[3:55:01] steps to
activate their permit and get their
[3:55:05] business going by july 1st that they
would be revoked
[3:55:09] it looks like
we're doing some final final checking
[3:55:13] but it looks like that there's gonna be
five of the permits that we're gonna go
[3:55:17] ahead and revoke for inactivity
um
[3:55:21] i did want to
[3:55:24] i think most of you are aware but
congratulate chief white for his
[3:55:27] appointment to the state 911 committee
so it's great to have him representing
[3:55:33] clear lake and other rural communities
i'm sure he's going to be a big asset
[3:55:39] sort of in random order here but
you know
[3:55:42] some pretty positive news um preliminary
returns from calpers over the last year
[3:55:48] uh brought their
um returns in at 21.3
[3:55:52] which obviously is higher than the
assumptions
[3:55:56] the preliminary returns for calpers
fund it was 21.3 percent of course which
[3:56:03] is much above the the 7 assumed rate of
return
[3:56:08] in fact it was so large it's going to
trigger some additional changes
[3:56:13] which is going to
bless you
[3:56:17] actually reduce the discount rate from 7
percent down to 6.8 percent in the
[3:56:23] future
which is going to
[3:56:27] drive up our our costs
uh because of that but
[3:56:32] anyway it's good last year they didn't
meet the um assumed rate i don't
[3:56:36] remember what the number was i think it
was six something
[3:56:39] um and but you know and that that return
will be smoothed over five year period
[3:56:45] but anyway um overall um
good to see that um we're continuing to
[3:56:50] monitor the
boat ramps at redbud park we have a
[3:56:54] gauge out there we have additional
marking to show the end of the concrete
[3:56:58] ramps
and signage letting folks know that it
[3:57:02] could be dangerous
to launch and they're doing so at their
[3:57:04] own risk but it is continuing to be used
the county is uh reporting that they're
[3:57:12] expecting the lake level to drop between
two and two and a half feet from where
[3:57:16] we are now before the end of the summer
so it's uh very possible that um
[3:57:23] some or all of the ramps at redwater
park will will not be usable um just for
[3:57:29] a little bit of context we have there's
the ramps that kind of i guess probably
[3:57:33] depending on when they are constructed
or a little bit different
[3:57:37] length
and
[3:57:40] so we're in pretty good shape similar to
some of the ramps at library park in
[3:57:45] lakeport and i think lakeside park
um over by kelseyville but there is one
[3:57:51] of the boat ramps at library park in
lake port that is a couple of feet
[3:57:56] longer than what we have so it's
possible that they
[3:58:00] will be the
only
[3:58:02] great access i mean and there's still
going to be issues with that
[3:58:05] can we pour something yeah yeah
[3:58:10] serious question yes
have you heard of the army corps of
[3:58:14] engineers before
[3:58:18] well you can pour concrete in water
yeah it takes a lot of permits and
[3:58:23] multiple years to do so so
[3:58:27] i wanted to mention that
the we've been asked by the adventist
[3:58:33] health and hope center to
be the grant recipient for a home key
[3:58:39] grant for some additional improvements
at the hope center
[3:58:43] they initially received funding for that
project with the county being the grant
[3:58:49] recipient
for whatever reason
[3:58:52] they apparently have
decided not to
[3:58:56] participate in that role anymore and so
they asked us if we would step in and do
[3:59:02] that and so we said you know of course
we would
[3:59:05] so working with that team on
bringing
[3:59:10] curb gutter and sidewalk improvements um
and a solar micro grid and other backup
[3:59:16] power as part of part of that project to
the hope center
[3:59:20] um the starbucks project's going well as
i'm sure you've realized um the
[3:59:23] developer is i'm trying to finalize the
plans for phase two of that we had an
[3:59:29] administrative use permit hearing for
the
[3:59:31] um stealth cell tower that's going to be
part of the pylon sign that will be
[3:59:36] installed there so
that was approved today and so
[3:59:41] they will be um
moving forward with their building
[3:59:44] permits on that
um and then they acquired additional
[3:59:48] property at the site so we're expecting
a phase three
[3:59:51] um to follow that development um
just a couple other things sorry i have
[3:59:57] a lot of stuff um
clear lake waste solutions notified us
[4:00:02] yesterday that um
they're being bought out by a larger
[4:00:08] waste hauler
and um
[4:00:12] you know they
won't go into all the details now they
[4:00:16] believe that it's going to be a good
transition for all bruce mccracken
[4:00:21] is going to be hired by this group and
remain
[4:00:26] on the team which
gives me a lot of relief that will still
[4:00:29] continue to have great service there is
going to be an action that's required by
[4:00:33] the council we're planning on taking
that on august 5th but
[4:00:37] anyway wanted to let you know about that
[4:00:42] the um oh i'm going to
be attending the icma's international
[4:00:47] city managers association conference in
october
[4:00:51] i've been asked to speak
as a panelist
[4:00:55] a
discussion
[4:00:57] entitled a tale of two cities attracting
retail and small and rural communities
[4:01:01] with a town manager from warrington
virginia so um
[4:01:06] looking forward to that opportunity and
then
[4:01:09] one final thing this is kind of more of
a future agenda item i guess but
[4:01:13] because of the census there's going to
there's a number of redis redistricting
[4:01:19] decisions
that are going to need to be made
[4:01:24] the state has a redistricting commission
they're kind of starting their public
[4:01:29] outreach related to this
and that's going to be continuing
[4:01:34] through the end of the year
there will be a community meeting at
[4:01:39] towards the end of august for our sort
of zone in the state
[4:01:43] but
i wanted to bring up and see if the
[4:01:46] council was interested in
um
[4:01:50] actively lobbying to
rejoin
[4:01:55] congressman thompson's district
um
[4:01:59] you know
since the last redistricting lake county
[4:02:02] has been split between congressman
thompson and congressman garamendi um we
[4:02:07] get
very little representation from congress
[4:02:10] from garamendi
and
[4:02:12] i think there's certainly an interest
from congressman thompson's office to
[4:02:16] represent us again and so
i just kind of wanted to gauge the
[4:02:21] council and see if there's interest in
possibly actively requesting that type
[4:02:27] of thing from the council as part of
this process
[4:02:31] and if that's the case then we'll
probably come back with another um item
[4:02:36] that you know talks a little bit more
about the options for doing so
[4:02:40] i definitely agree with that
[4:02:47] okay that's my report
councilman kramer anything to report on
[4:02:51] very little report on all
meetings that i normally would attend
[4:02:55] were because of the
holiday i think were probably canceled
[4:03:00] uh i have been attending blue zone
planning
[4:03:04] committee meetings
but i assume that
[4:03:08] that mayor vice mayor perdoc is going to
give you a report on that so i'm not
[4:03:12] going to
have anything to say on that other than
[4:03:16] monday
i'm going to let you go with that
[4:03:19] so that's all i have councilman overton
clapper you have anything to report on
[4:03:26] uh i attended the peg tv meeting which
uh no real action items from that just
[4:03:31] good to see that team moving forward i
just wanted to make a comment about the
[4:03:34] fourth of july and
the incredible job the staff did the
[4:03:38] police department public works of course
the lions every year put on a great
[4:03:43] event um and it
i i was there for the parade and i i
[4:03:48] stayed for for mr rich and it was just a
superb event all around so kudos to all
[4:03:54] of you thank you for
the number of folks that i met that were
[4:03:58] from out of town or were from blake
county that came here and just had a
[4:04:02] blast
it's a great rep
[4:04:06] reputation builder for our area and i
think you all did wonderful so thank you
[4:04:12] nice mayor product
well done david you stole my thunder i
[4:04:16] was waiting for them
i was going to get the chance to
[4:04:20] just hear my accolades yeah i just would
like to echo councilmember clappy's
[4:04:25] comments um what a great presentation i
think we've turned the corner we're on
[4:04:29] our way uh making our ascent
um there are wonderful things happening
[4:04:34] down here it was great to hear a concert
in the park been working for six years
[4:04:40] to get a band stand over there and it
was very disappointing with covid not to
[4:04:44] be able to really celebrate and bring
that in
[4:04:47] kudos again to lions club
another great great event
[4:04:54] anyway great fireworks show
and thanks to all the sponsors that
[4:04:58] donated
including individuals and many of us
[4:05:01] here in this room or uh donating to the
to the fireworks it was a great show
[4:05:07] um
as uh councilman cramer pointed out
[4:05:11] um blue zones initiative is a community
uh
[4:05:14] based grassroot initiative to try to
improve the health and wealth of lake
[4:05:19] county and and clear lake in particular
help our youth help our seniors
[4:05:24] and the team is coming into lake county
on monday july 26th they will remain on
[4:05:30] site until the 30th wanting to meet with
as many as they can
[4:05:36] if you can please uh contact me or or
go to the blue zone site and you can
[4:05:42] register to be a participant
um so your voice can be heard and again
[4:05:47] if you have any questions please contact
me i'd be happy to share
[4:05:51] all right
uh mr kramer has it you over no okay
[4:05:57] uh a couple of things uh i thought the
concert was just awesome
[4:06:02] i've never seen so many people in the
park happy they were parked out there
[4:06:07] from the morning on it was it was at
kudos to
[4:06:11] all of the city staff
that was just awesome i was so happy to
[4:06:16] see this i was really poked about it all
standard and also i want to congratulate
[4:06:20] chief white on his appointment on the
911 committee that's an honor and i
[4:06:26] couldn't have picked a better person for
that
[4:06:29] all right uh
future agenda items
[4:06:33] got any anybody anything right
have not
[4:06:37] um
if not
[4:06:40] we'll join and go to closed sessions