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What, welcome everybody to the meeting tonight, and going to start the prayer be led by Commissioner Porter,

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which will be followed by the place to both flags.

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Do you have any further, we gather here today, Father, to honor the communities need for the commission to rule and lead the community.

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Father, I pray a lot, Father, that you bless every individual here, both of them, a commission, mayor, city, and all of our citizens.

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Father, I pray the Lord, that you lead us to a fruitful and peaceful future and a Jesus name, we pray.

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Thank you, Mayor Protez and my apologies for being a few minutes late, everyone.

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With the meeting, having been called to order, Ms. Reyes, could we have a roll call, please?

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Commissioner Jones, Commissioner Bryant, Commissioner Cassels, Commissioner Porter, Mayor Protez, Commissioner Garza, Commissioner Rally, Commissioner Paula, Mayor Morris.

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Here, thank you, Ms. Reyes. Mayor Protez and my commissioners next.

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We would have the approval of the agenda, and as has become my, my habit, I will assume you're approval unless there are objections.

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Hearing and seeing none, we will adopt the agenda and please record a yes vote for each of the members.

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Next is approval of minutes, and that's the minutes from the Thursday, September 22,

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meeting. Those minutes are in your packet, and you've had the opportunity to review them, are there any corrections or objections to the way they are printed.

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Hearing and seeing none, we will adopt the minutes from the Thursday, September 22, meeting, please record a yes vote for each of the members.

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Next is recognition of visitors. We have several folks that have taken interest in tonight's meeting that have joined us in person here in the chambers.

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I want to say welcome. Thank you for your interest. Thank you for your attendance. We also want to recognize that there are folks watching tonight, and we appreciate that as well.

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We look forward to hearing from you later in the meeting.

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Proclamations awards and presentations.

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Originally, we had two planned there this evening, but the presentation of clocks will be postponed to a later meeting,

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and we will only have the presentation of Proclamation Proclaming October 15, 2022, as Trek for Trash Day in the City of Clovis,

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and to give us an explanation on that, Ms. Burroughs.

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I think I'm actually going to take this one. Great.

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Mr. Paula, please tell us about Trek for Trash.

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So yes, Trek for Trash is Saturday, October 15, from 8 to 12, at the Parks and Recreation Office on Sikomore.

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That's where everyone will gather beginning at 8 a.m.

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We are encouraging teams to sign up.

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In the past, we've had teams from the Canon Air Force Base.

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We have teams from the high school. We have just different families that will come out and volunteer as a team.

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It gives everyone a great opportunity to help make a difference in our community and make it clean and beautiful.

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We will also provide lunch and breakfast.

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So if you don't want to cook that day, come out and join us.

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We will feed you.

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And I also want to thank New Mexico Clean and Beautiful for sponsoring this event.

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Thank you, Commissioner Paula, appreciate that.

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And you may have said somewhere in there, but we're doing this event a couple of times a year, right?

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Yeah. And so this is our fall, clean up.

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And I encourage everyone to participate.

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Any other comments about Trek for Trash?

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Very well. I'd like to offer the Proclamation then.

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Proclamation. Whereas New Mexico cherishes the multi-cultural diversity that weaves the colorful fabric of our state.

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And whereas our state opens its doors to visitors from all over the country,

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as well as other nations. And whereas we strive to sustain and improve the quality of life for our citizens as well as our visitors.

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And whereas New Mexico Clean and Beautiful is the state's affiliate of Keep America Beautiful Incorporated.

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A national nonprofit organization who sponsors the Great American Cleanup.

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And whereas the Trek for Trash is the fall cleanup organized and sponsored by New Mexico Clean and Beautiful

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to promote a litter, a litter, a awareness, and reduce litter to the maximum practical extent.

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Now, therefore, I'm Mike Morris, Mayor of Clovis, and I'm behalf of the City Commission.

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Proclamation October 15, 2022 as Trek for Trash Day in the City of Clovis.

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And I ask all citizens and businesses, civic groups, government agencies, churches, schools, and other organizations within our community

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to work together to improve and enhance the quality of life in our city, not only during Trek for Trash Day, but throughout the year.

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Someone receiving the Proclamation.

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How about I?

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Looking forward to Trek for Trash. I hope that we get lots of crews out and really clean up the city.

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Next in our agenda, we have receipts of petitions and communications.

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And this is the portion in the City Commission agenda, where we make the opportunity to create the opportunity for anyone who wishes to bring comments,

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before the commission and myself.

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And I know that we have a lot of folks here this evening that intend to bring comments before us with the pro-life effort

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and in particular the demonstration that took place outside just prior to this meeting.

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And I'll reiterate, I told the group, three minutes a piece.

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And once all the points have been made, maybe we can have one or two of you kind of some things up,

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but looking forward to hearing from you.

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And also anyone has communications, our emergency management director, Mr. Hearding, appears to have a communication.

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Please, Mr. Hearding.

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Thank you Mayor, Mayor, Protem Commissioners.

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Just come in real quick before you all, before this body and let everyone know.

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Next Wednesday, the 12th of October, we will be having a full-scale training exercise with several of our community partners.

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And they include the Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railroad.

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We have Cannon Air Force Base Emergency Management, Cannon Air Force Base Fire Department.

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Of course, our fire department, our police department.

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And a couple other folks that I probably will forget about, but we are going to have a all day full-scale exercise on the rail yard.

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Just kind of letting everybody know.

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If you go over the Hall Street overpass to the north, you'll see everything there going on.

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It's not an event, not a real world.

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It's a training exercise for all our responders.

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I'm not going to go into public here with them.

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We don't want to spoil the event for those folks that are going to be partaking in it.

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But I just want to let everybody be aware that there is a training exercise that's going to be starting.

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We're going to be at seven o'clock in the morning and go until it's complete.

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So everyone be aware that there's a training exercise in the rail yard.

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Next Wednesday, beginning at 7 a.m.

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And that's what they call the why right there where the track goes to the south.

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Is there anyone that would like to address the commission?

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Actually, I'm pleased to announce that the Clovis Wing shooting complex and archery range officially opened today.

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the range will be opened from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.

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And then on Sundays, the range will be opened from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m.

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And we'll have our official grand opening.

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It's scheduled for October the 25th.

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And we invite all the public and enthusiastic to come on out on that day and join us starting at 11.30 for the grand opening.

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Thanks for bringing that up.

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Very excited about the shooting range.

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I have a new shotgun and I'm ready to go use it.

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Everyone get ready and let's go.

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Who would like to address the commission?

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Damian has a presentation he wanted to make about love the zoo.

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You know, if I'd been on time for the meeting, I'd better have got all of these notes.

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I apologize.

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I thought this was later on.

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Mayor Mayor.

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I'm just wanted to talk a little bit about the event that I'm happened on September 24th.

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We had 101 volunteers come out.

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So it's a pretty big success.

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That equals 404 labor hours.

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So if our seven zookeepers would have worked on on those projects alone,

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it would have took them 7.2 days to complete.

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So just in this four hours, we got a lot a lot of work done.

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painting of the benches,

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pavilion's lots of fencing about 1294 feet of fencing.

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And I believe there's some photos of kind of what the zoo looked like before.

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What the projects look like after.

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So this was before.

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And then the next slide is what it looks like after.

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Much cleaner.

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And then the third one is everybody kind of working on the projects.

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But I would like to thank Commissioner Paula and the swim team.

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She brought lots of volunteers out.

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The military Walmart.

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All the members of the community that came out to help us.

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We really appreciate it.

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I also want to give a shout out to city management, parks and rack finance and public works for assisting us.

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We couldn't do it without you.

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And a special thank you to Sherman Williams for the generous donation of paints and supplies.

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So that definitely helped us there.

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We look forward to similar events.

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Probably after the holidays.

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It was very time-consuming to get it set up.

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It was very worth it.

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But we definitely want to have another one in the spring.

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Well thank you for that, Mr. Leckner.

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We're excited about all the great things going on at the zoo.

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The direction that you're taking things.

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And it's just a wonderful asset in our community.

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I understand there were over 20 volunteers from Cannon Air Force Base that helped.

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I love the partnership with Cannon.

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Thank you to the Cannon family for helping out with that.

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There's lots of people that I see peaking around the corner.

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There's seats.

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Some seats over here.

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And some room over here.

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If you guys want to walk around.

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You're welcome.

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Thanks for that commissioner.

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Anything else to report from the city departments in such.

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Is there anyone that would like to address the commission this evening?

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Mr. Denton.

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So he's the first one to go.

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Everyone pay attention.

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We're doing great.

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I got all the pressure on me.

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We're doing three minutes.

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Something else we do is we need your name and address for the record.

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So my name is Ryan Denton.

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My address is 53.

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And that is in love.

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Although I am the pastor of Grace Coven.

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Reform Church here in Clovis.

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And I'm here tonight in that capacity.

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I'm here to plead with you to make Clovis the sanctuary city for the unborn.

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The ordinance we are asking you to put on a special sessions agenda has been written by.

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A pro-life civil attorney with an extensive track record.

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It comes with full legal backing at no cost the city.

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It has been crafted in such a way that it will win not only in the short term, but also the long term.

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This ordinance will protect the lives of the unborn within the city.

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And it's in human beings created in the image of God filled with dignity, value, and worth.

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It is no secret abortion clinics and now abortion bands.

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Or at this moment looking for a place to murder children within our city limits.

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Now is the time to act.

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Lots of questions have been raised as to what would happen if this ordinance has put on the agenda and actually passed.

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There are people in Santa Fe who may be offended.

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There are outcomes we can't predict.

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We just don't know.

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But there are three certainties that must outweigh all the uncertainties.

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First is what God wants you to do as mayor and commissioners.

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It's what God has called you to do as leaders of the city.

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God's word says he has placed you in this position of power to be ministers for good and to protect your citizens from evil.

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And we are blessed in this city to have the mayor and the commissioners that we do have.

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And I know that a lot of you are God fearing and pro-life and conservative.

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But it is important to remember that the reason God has placed you in power is to be a minister for justice, a minister for good.

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Babies in the womb are your citizens.

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You must do everything you can to protect them.

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This ordinance ensures that number two is God's will that you protect the unborn.

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You can be sure that God's whenever you...

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You protect the unborn. God is going to be behind that. God is going to take care of anything that comes your way. Any consequences from that, you're not going to be doing this alone. You'll have the aid of Almighty God.

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And then I was reminded of Queen Esther, Queen Esther, stood before King, I have to wear us on behalf of the Jews when the Jews were about to be slaughtered.

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And she's worried. She's nervous. Everyone's fasting for us. She appears before the king. And when she appears before the king, they say, you're there for such a time as this.

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And we do believe that this is the time to set a precedent for the whole state of New Mexico in really the entire country, as far as cities that are in a liberal state.

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And yet doing this anyways. Number three and lastly, this community will support you.

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We are behind you. We, like I said, we're blessed to have you where you are. To weeks ago, with little notice over 200 people showed up at our church about this very ordinance.

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This week, we had a meeting with over 20 pastors. The momentum is behind us. You really do have the momentum of this of this city.

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And I was thinking earlier, you know, this is the time when the people really throughout the country, they look to their leaders.

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And so often with politicians, we see them promising things that they don't come through on.

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And so what really stirs people up is whatever their politicians, the people that represent them actually take a stand.

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And courageously go forth anyways, because it's the right thing to do, no matter the backlash, no matter the consequences.

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That's what galvanizes people. And so for this, especially with elections coming up, if you do this before the election, this is going to galvanize people to get out.

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Really, it's going to bring the momentum, it's going to stir on the momentum to go and vote even more. So this city will be behind you in this. We're blessed to have you as our leaders.

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More importantly than all of this is leaders accountable to God by putting this ordinance on a special sessions meeting and voting to make Clovis a sanctuary city for the unborn.

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You will be doing what's right. That's what matters.

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You'll be doing what's right.

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Good evening sir, your name and address for the record, please.

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My name's Charles Otero, physician assistant, address 1201 Rosewood Drive, Clovis, New Mexico.

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Welcome. Thank you.

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Mayor, Mayor Pro Team and commissioners, I'm very excited and very nervous to speak before you today.

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This is not my usual mode of operation, but as a medical provider, my obligation when I was trained in the reason I went to school was to fight for life.

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And as you're, you being our elected officials, that is your same commission. You may not do it in the manner I do, but you do it.

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I believe we have a David and Goliath moment. Clovis is David. This state is Goliath.

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You have the right to pick up this ordinance and you sling it at evil and you can make a difference.

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Not only in this city, that's where it starts. Not only in the state, but we can set a move for those who believe that life is sacred.

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And believe that our God created it. I ask you to review this ordinance, special ordinance, for us to become a sanctuary city.

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Not only in our state, but the nation and the world. You can do that.

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It's of utmost importance and I ask that you form or call a special meeting.

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You have the right to do that. And if you thought back over the years, there are far less things than life that you've called those meetings for.

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I know you need time, but I ask that you look at it. It's not much time that is necessary.

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In this state of New Mexico, as politicians uphold it, it says that we have a right in our constitution to enjoy life.

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To enjoy and defend life, I ask each of you, according to the constitution, but the law much higher that most of you abide by to do this, do the right thing.

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We're behind you, and we thank you for all your service. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mark Cavalier, 137 McGee Drive, Shaperrell, New Mexico.

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Mr. Mayor and esteemed commissioners on behalf of the Southwest Coalition for Life, representing Southern New Mexico as well as El Paso, Texas and CEO of the Guiding Star Women's Medical Center.

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I respectfully ask you to consider that 165 years ago, the Supreme Court of the United States and the Sanford versus Dreadscott case said,

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quote, the Negro is not a human being. 140 years ago, the American law review said referring to Native Americans, quote,

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an Indian is not a person within the meaning of the constitution.

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95 years ago, the Supreme Court referred to American citizens with disabilities as imbosals in support of eugenics,

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and 50 years ago, the same Supreme Court in Roe versus Wade referring to preborn girls and boys said,

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quote, the word person does not include the unborn.

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As history shows the Supreme Court does not have the best track record when it comes to dividing the rights of personhood.

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And as it has, in those cases before, it is recently updated to its rulings to be in line with modern medical science and ethics.

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However, as history also shows that every time the Supreme Court has corrected itself, politically opposed cities have resisted, continuing unjust to allow unjust practices that favor the desirable versus the undesirables.

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Following the overturn of Dreadscott, many city councils across America continue to allow a lot of unjust practices which civil rights activists had to fight for another 100 years until the 1960s,

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which those cities now bears an embarrassing scene on their history.

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So the question that you face today is which side of history will close this new Mexico beyond.

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With Roe versus Wade and Planned Parenthood versus Casey overturned and declared egregiously wrong from the start,

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for the first time in 50 years state and municipal governments once again have the right to defend life from the moment it comes into existence.

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So you now have the legal right to do this. Please do not fumble this opportunity to be remembered in history to do the right thing.

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Will you protect women and children or will you continue to allow that same antiquated 1970s narrative of Roe versus Wade for which for the last 50 years has been telling women that in order to be successful,

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they have no choice but to alter suppressed and destroy the normal healthy functions of her natural body.

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A abortion is not healthcare and women deserve better.

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The organization targeting Eastern Texas whole women's health has been cited in Texas for routinely family and state health inspections,

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citations for missing narcotics, unsanitarian environment, unsterilized instruments, rusty suction equipment,

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violation of doctor patient confidentiality, patient complaints of employees telling them to wear earplugs so they won't hear their babies heartbeat and telling them to look away from the ultrasound monitors so they won't change their mind.

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Blood spatters on the walls and wrote it in frustration.

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The owner of that abortion business said that without abortions their business is not sustainable. They're not here for women's health.

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We're here just to ask you to add this proposed ordinance to the agenda written by top constitutional attorneys as presented that only enforces federal law and has no conflict with any state law.

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And to please have a special meeting to expedite this process to conclude without this ordinance abortion will remain unrestricted up to the moment of delivery.

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For any reason, in Clovis even perminers without parental consent without this ordinance.

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I drove five hours from the lost cruisest area where in just one year we've already gone from zero to three abortion facilities.

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And while abortion by in-state residents have decreased, the total number has overtripled due to out-of-state special interest of corporations, which are now targeting Eastern New Mexico as a loophole to exploit and profit off of Texas women.

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This ordinance will close that. We have those attorneys to help you at no cost to the city.

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You have the people of New Mexico behind you and counting on Clovis to be a beacon of hope instead of pressing it for the rest of us.

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This is your moment. We need you and you are called for such a time as this. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Cavalier.

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Okay, that. And this is in Patterson before I give you the floor. I thought, you know, where a lot of folks are making reference to an ordinance.

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And just for everyone's benefit and for the viewing public's benefit, the ordinance that each of these folks are referring to is an ordinance that was drafted by Jonathan Mitchell out of Texas.

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Coordinated with Mark Lee Dixon who's here this evening. I suppose we'll hear from him as well.

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I wanted to just make that clear that this is an ordinance that we've received just in the last couple of days.

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I think in fact yesterday is when I received the proposed draft.

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And so it is my intention to put this on for the next regular commission meeting, which would be two weeks from tonight.

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And you know, that's going to give us the time to continue to vet that to continue to make sure that we get it right.

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Okay, this is this is not something that we want to do, you know, without a lot of calculated thought and measured thought.

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We want to be careful, we want to get it right. And I have the draft city attorney has the draft as of yesterday.

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These commissioners haven't had the chance to review it yet or any of those things.

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And so we want to get it right and anything that we pass correct me if I'm wrong would be retroactive.

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So, you know, I appreciate the the sense of urgency and the passion and the energy.

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But I'll have it on. It's my plan to have it on for the regular meeting in two weeks.

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And again, that's just so that we have the time to get it right. So thank you.

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Ms. Patterson.

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I don't have a speech ready because I didn't know. I was going to say anything.

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But my name is Tammy Patterson. I live at 124 East, Indiana Boulevard and Clovis.

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Thank you guys for letting me speak. Probably didn't say that right, but it's all good.

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When I was 18 years old, I got married when I was 19 years old. I had my daughter who's sitting right over there.

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And my granddaughter is here because of her. I have other grandchildren because of her.

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When I was 20 years old, I got pregnant again.

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I was very, very sick during my first pregnancy. I almost died. My baby almost died.

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And when I was seven, when she was seven months old, I got pregnant again.

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And from the advice of my doctor and several other people in my life, in my life at that time,

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they convinced me and I was convinced because I didn't know any better that abortion was the only answer that I had.

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It was the only thing, it was the right thing to do for me for me.

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And so I went through it that thinking that this would be the right thing to do for me. And for my child, my family, it was horrible.

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And I see so many women that are for abortion, that get up in front of the nation, that get on television,

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and they talk about how proud they are, that they had an abortion.

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I'm here to tell you, there's nothing to be proud of.

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I didn't know the Lord back then. I didn't know to even ask his opinion on it.

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I just took the opinion of the people around me. I was wrong for allowing somebody to remove my baby from my body.

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I never was able to have anymore. I have one. Thank God.

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And I'm so grateful to have her. You guys have, I'm sure, varying opinions. I don't know,

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but you have a major opportunity here to lead the way for our state.

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To let people know that this is not some hero thing that women do. It's a horrible thing.

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Every day since that happened in my life, I think about my little baby.

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He's in heaven one day I'll see him again, praise God.

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But what would my life have been? Had I letting be born? Had I trusted God to help me?

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Had I trusted my family to help me get through that? Trusted my husband to help me get through it.

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I would have more grandchildren. My life would be even more full than it already is.

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I have no doubt.

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I'm just begging you with all of my heart to do this.

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Yes, make it happen. The people in this town are behind you.

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This is what we want. And you guys are here to represent us.

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And I just want to praise the Lord for the godly men and women who are our commissioners.

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And for the work that you do for our town, I know there's many, many concerns.

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And this is one of them.

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We don't want this to be a place where people come and kill their children.

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We want it to be a place of refuge and peace.

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And there is a place here in town that helps pregnant women. They give them choices.

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Let's promote that instead of the other.

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Thank you for listening.

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Evening sir.

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Hello.

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Name an address please.

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My name is Eric Welsh and my address is 204 Broadway.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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So yeah.

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Thank you.

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It's a pleasure to be able to address you all today.

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My name is Eric Welsh and I am requesting that not only the hearing out of this ordinance be placed

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on the agenda here in two weeks but that you would consider putting it on special on a special agenda for tea.

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Happen even sooner.

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I have a quote for you that I'd like for you all to hear.

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I know it's something that I've read and it's impacted me as well.

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It comes from Douglas Wilson.

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It says desperate times call for faithful men and I'm going to add women to that also.

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But desperate times call for faithful men and women and not careful men and women.

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The careful men and women come later and write the biographies of the faithful.

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These are the faithful men and women.

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Loading them for their courage.

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And if we are all standing here today.

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And we know that this is an issue of morality. This truly is an issue of morality. And I believe that the people of this city want to make a stand against the state that we live in.

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And we know that that we are asking a lot of you guys. And we wouldn't be, we wouldn't have elected you if we didn't think that you were capable of handling and doing this thing the right way.

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So what we want is for this thing to be heard and for this thing to be considered without any preconceived notions.

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What we're asking, I mean, there's been a lot of chatter that have gone back and forth from what I've heard some people say and other people say, you know,

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and it's everything's conflicting with each other. What I'm asking you is to look at this ordinance and light of the fears that you might have, whether it's got legal ramifications,

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whether it's got, you know, this might injure my view or my standing with a political party,

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or asking you guys to put everything aside and to really look at the words that are being spoken and what's being offered as, with this lawyer,

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this very qualified lawyer that is going to come and defend the ordinance that he writes with no cost to the city.

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I just want you guys to remember that and to really look at this and give it its fair shake.

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A really fair shake and not say, well, this isn't going to work or someone's only telling me to move this down the road,

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but to actually deal with what's in front of you and I ask you, please, as a citizen of the city, to consider that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Welcome sir. Welcome. I have some material.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Well, he's passing those out. My name is Logan Brown. My address is 1581.

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And that is in Port Alice, New Mexico.

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I am a member of Grace coming to reform church here in Clovis.

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And I first want to start out speaking with you.

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And I want to just remind you that we are for you in this.

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That we are here to encourage you to do the right thing.

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What you know in your heart is right to do with this ordinance.

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We are calling for a special session.

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There is urgency on this.

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And I understand we have to have our do diligence.

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We have to make sure that we dot all of our eyes and cross all of our teas.

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But this is no longer something we can put off any longer.

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It is knocking at our door.

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So I'm going to go ahead and go through what I've prepared.

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But I just want you to know that the citizenry, everyone that's here is for you and not against you.

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But we also will hold you accountable as well.

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Because we want to see God's work moved in this.

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So a little bit about my background.

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I've been involved in an online abortion abolitionist ministry for about three to four years now.

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And we reach out to women.

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We share the gospel.

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We encourage them to choose life.

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We've been we've seen at least 150 babies saved to the God's glory alone.

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And so through that we I've seen firsthand what abortion is.

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What it does to both the women to the fathers to the babies themselves.

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And we as Christians are called to love God and our neighbor.

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And there is nothing about abortion that is loving God or our neighbor.

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And that's coming to our city.

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That's coming to this city, your city.

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That you hold the gates.

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The keys to the gate.

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In Amos 515 it says to love justice to hate evil and to to hold justice in the city gates.

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It is your job to keep this city safe.

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And like I said we we support you in this we we encourage you in this.

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I put my my personal phone number in those books because I want questions.

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I want you to call me I want if you didn't get one of the books.

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I might not have brought enough.

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I want you to call me I pray that you read those because those show that you have your seats.

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Because we the people elected you and God the higher power the one true living God he puts you there he gave you the authority.

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So I pray that you read those books and that they bless you so.

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I wear this shirt as a reminder to myself it says American Holocaust on it.

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The word holocaust literally means sorry.

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It literally means destruction or slaughter on a mass scale.

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So there's 63 million nationwide.

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23 hundred babies a day.

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So do we wake up every day and we live our lives that there are 23 hundred babies in our nation that are legally slaughtered.

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And that can be prevented by passing this ordinance in the city limits.

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And I want to I want to I'll be quick I'll close up.

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00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,000
I would like an honest answer sometime.

433
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Has there ever been an ordinance that has had this much legal backing behind it that is they're saying we will defend this.

434
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:23,000
With large name lawyers at no cost to the city because that's I'm not I'm outside of politics but to me that seems pretty rare and pretty powerful to have them stand behind their ordinance.

435
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
So.

436
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:41,000
With all that said I just want you guys to know that we're for you we're not against you and that we we want you to when your grandchildren and your children ask you one day what did you do when you had a chance to keep abortion outside of Clovis, New Mexico.

437
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:47,000
I want you to be able to answer that in good faith and I want you to be able to say what you did for the least of these.

438
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Thank you.

439
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Thanks Mr. Brown.

440
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000
evening man.

441
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Hi.

442
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,000
My name is Julie Ford and I live at 812 Westmanyana Boulevard in Clovis, New Mexico.

443
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000
Welcome you have the floor.

444
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Thank you.

445
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:18,000
I'm here to speak on the behalf of the of the voice list and I'm going to share a scripture from Jeremiah.

446
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:28,000
The following message came to Jeremiah from the Lord stand at the gates of the house of the Lord and there are Pope plain this message.

447
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Here the word of the Lord all you Judah who enter these gates to worship the Lord.

448
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Thus says the Lord of hosts the God of Israel reform your ways and your deeds so that I may remain with you in this place.

449
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000
But not your trust in the deceitful words.

450
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,000
This is the temple of the Lord.

451
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000
The temple of the Lord.

452
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
The temple of the Lord.

453
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Only if you throughly reform your ways and your deeds.

454
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,000
If each of you deals just justly with his neighbor.

455
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,000
If you no longer oppress the resident alien, the orphan and the widow.

456
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:22,000
If you no longer shed innocent blood in this place or follow strange gods to your own harm.

457
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Will I remain with you in this place?

458
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,000
And the land I gave your father's long ago and forever.

459
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,000
But here you are putting your trust into seatful words to your own loss.

460
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,000
Are you to steal and murder, commit adultery and purgery?

461
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Burn innocent to ball, go after strange gods that you know not.

462
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,000
And yet come to stand before me in this house which bears my name and say,

463
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:00,000
We are safe, we cannot, we can commit all these abominations again.

464
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Has this house which bears my name become in your eyes, a den of thieves?

465
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000
I too see what is being done says the Lord.

466
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:21,000
God gave life and to Jeremiah he let him know that he knew him before he was in his mother's womb.

467
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,000
And so God has drawn the line, are you with me or are you against me?

468
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,000
And so I was blessed to have my husband.

469
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000
His mother was raped and she grew up in a strict home.

470
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:43,000
It was afraid to tell her parents and she tried to abort my husband.

471
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:52,000
But it was unsuccessful and when during his delivery he was a blue baby.

472
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:59,000
And at that moment that was her yes and she begged her doctor to save her baby.

473
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,000
And that was when she knew that she loved him and wanted him.

474
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,000
And I was very blessed to be able to have met my husband.

475
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
He was told in the air force he couldn't have children.

476
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
And we have four beautiful children.

477
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,000
So God can do anything.

478
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
He is the one that gives life.

479
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
And so he is the one that chooses life and chooses death.

480
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000
And it's not in our hands to do so.

481
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Thank you very much.

482
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Thank you, Ms. Ford.

483
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Good evening, ma'am.

484
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,000
My name is Benetta Hudson.

485
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
I live at 3-10 Ewing Street.

486
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
I am the pastor at Living Writz Church.

487
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Good evening, Mayor Morris.

488
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
Prochimp.

489
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
Mr. Bryant.

490
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000
The rest of you wonderful commissioners and everyone else that's here.

491
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,000
The last time that I was at a commissioners meeting was last month and our discussion was crime.

492
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000
And death.

493
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000
And what were we going to do?

494
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:13,000
And I come tonight and I am so pleased to be among so many that want to stand for life.

495
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:20,000
The majority of us I believe that life begins at conception.

496
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,000
There's no question in my mind for that.

497
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:31,000
The problem is is trying to get that conversation out for everyone else to understand what we believe.

498
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000
A abortion is murder.

499
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000
God says not to murder.

500
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,000
And though you have people on the one side that are saying that this is women's health care and this is about the woman.

501
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000
And nobody has to write to dictate what we can tell somebody that they can do.

502
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
We still have a responsibility to protect those that cannot protect themselves.

503
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,000
We have put our trust in you.

504
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
And we thank you for listening to us.

505
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,000
We thank you for taking this time to hear what we are saying.

506
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,000
We are saying that we want to stand for life.

507
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,000
And we want to do something that maybe we have been remiss in doing before.

508
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000
We've always kind of just said things in our churches or in our homes.

509
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
But we've never been bold enough to say no.

510
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,000
We're not going to stand for this any longer.

511
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,000
But as you can see from tonight and as you can see from the various meetings that have taken place that we are a community of people.

512
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,000
That believe that it's time for us to unite our voices.

513
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Doesn't matter what congregation we go to doesn't matter whether we are believers.

514
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
So I mean that helps us certainly to know what is right.

515
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
But the fact that you will listen to us.

516
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
That you're willing to put this on a special meeting.

517
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
So that we can talk more about it.

518
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000
That you are willing to hear how important this is to us.

519
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
We have the opportunity to change the state.

520
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,000
We have the opportunity for them to look at Clovis that says we will stand for life.

521
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
And we will do what it takes.

522
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000
And we will fight against the Goliath.

523
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Because we are David and David persevered not because he had a stone.

524
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
But because God was behind him.

525
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,000
I stand with everybody else that is here and we ask you.

526
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
First we thank you for listening to us tonight.

527
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
We thank everybody for coming out.

528
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Let us continue to press forward and to bring this out into the public.

529
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
That we can be instrumental in changing our state.

530
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
And then hopefully changing our nation.

531
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
Thank you so much.

532
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Thank you.

533
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Evening now.

534
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Good evening ladies and gentlemen.

535
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:47,000
My name is Martha Campos 717 West 19th Street during Clovis.

536
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
My husband sir in the Air Force for four years during 9.11.

537
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000
And I have took it.

538
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,000
I'm a nurse for 18 years.

539
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And I don't think I can say anything better than what they have said.

540
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
I don't have anything prepared.

541
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,000
Other than that.

542
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:11,000
I believe also in life from conception until natural death.

543
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,000
I have care for all kinds of ages as a nurse.

544
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:23,000
And I want to be able to help in the protection of the onboard.

545
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:31,000
But also I want to be able to have a safe place for all of the young girls.

546
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:42,000
That have to sometimes face that difficult decision of having to choose life or death.

547
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:47,000
And unfortunately I've already already know the end.

548
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,000
One person has to die and that is the unprotected baby.

549
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:58,000
And so I believe it is my job as a citizen of this country or this state.

550
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:09,000
And on this town to support you guys and to support everyone that is here today protecting that life or the onboard.

551
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
And also the future of those young girls.

552
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:19,000
I don't want any young girls having to live their life having that guilt because they didn't know what to do at that moment.

553
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:27,000
And that's what's the only choice or the easier choice of the choice that the society is pushing them to do.

554
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,000
Thank you.

555
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,000
Thank you, Ms. Compos.

556
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Welcome, Mr. Snowberger.

557
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Good afternoon, Mayor Council.

558
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
So two weeks.

559
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Excuse me, two weeks from this evening during your meeting.

560
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,000
I'm sorry.

561
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Let's have a name and address.

562
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000
John Snowberger, 2600 East, 21st Street.

563
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Thank you.

564
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
The board chair for the pregnancy resource in here in close.

565
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000
So two weeks from this evening is our annual banquet.

566
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
And it is the largest banquet the Civic Center has.

567
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
We have over 600 people.

568
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:11,000
We're right now with the waiting list. And I'd like to strongly encourage you to have your special meeting prior to that since so many people and so much support will be out there. So that's all I have to say this evening.

569
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:23,000
I appreciate that. I'm just just nowhere here. That's two years in a row. You've scheduled it on a commission night last year. I rushed out to the banquet. And I got there in time for the chicken.

570
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Well, do I say solid this time? Okay. Thank you. It's just not a choice. It's a child, right? Okay. Thank you.

571
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Hi. I'm Leah Cotton, 619 US Highway 70.

572
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,000
Yes. So I'm coming from this as an adoptive mom.

573
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:57,000
I was unable to have children. And it was so hard for me to see young girls just throwing their babies away.

574
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Because that's what it felt like to me as a woman who was wanting a child so desperately but couldn't.

575
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,000
So this is really close to home for me.

576
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:17,000
I want Clovis not to be known as part of the abortion capital. I want Clovis to be known as the life capital.

577
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:26,000
As an adoption resource. Let's teach our girls teach these young women that they have a choice.

578
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,000
An adoption is a beautiful choice. Life is a beautiful choice.

579
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:42,000
You know, I heard from one of the plant parent counselors that they tell these girls while having your babies going to be hard.

580
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Having put in an up for adoption is hard. But if you have that abortion, you can just walk out and start your life.

581
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,000
That's a lie because that's hard.

582
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Any choice that they're going to make is hard.

583
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:12,000
But the cool thing about choosing life that we need to promote is it changes the legacy of the family that's taking this child.

584
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Because it's changed my legacy. I have a beautiful daughter and two beautiful granddaughters.

585
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:26,000
But it also changes that birth mom's legacy because she chose life and she doesn't have to regret and wonder what's that child, what could have been.

586
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:33,000
She can go and still probably hook up with that family because my daughter's birth mom and I are very close.

587
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:45,000
And she's able to see what her choice of life looks like and is able to have joy and is able to have confidence because she made that choice.

588
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:53,000
So let's make Clovis a life city instead of a death city.

589
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Thank you. Thank you Ms. Cotton.

590
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,000
Hello.

591
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Good evening, ma'am.

592
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,000
This is new for me.

593
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:09,000
I am Jeanette McDonald three eight four South Roosevelt Road.

594
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,000
I'm in portalis. I recently came from California.

595
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:22,000
One reason is truly the amount of weakness that seems to have overcome the city.

596
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,000
A lot of things we did I realize as a child and growing up as a child.

597
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,000
I was early in set of education. I fought for choice.

598
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Children's choice and the right to have an abortion order.

599
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,000
You know, not and things like that.

600
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Not knowing the door that I was helping and participating in opening because choice sounds good.

601
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,000
It sounds like a great option.

602
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
But there's a lot of choices.

603
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,000
You know, there's abstinence. There's birth control.

604
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,000
There they have all kinds of tools and things to start.

605
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,000
You know, things, pregnancies from happening.

606
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
So a whole lot of those type of choices.

607
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:14,000
You're even able to have the option to have sex while you're on your cycle.

608
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Less likely to have. There's a whole lot of choices.

609
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:29,000
And what I realized is now today, after I've had my children and watched the things that they go through and their life and the difference of the world today,

610
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,000
is we have people screaming to eat their children.

611
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:39,000
We have people that are wicked and want to have the choice to share the blood.

612
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:47,000
I have witnessed a number of friends that has purposely gotten pregnant just so that they can have a good hair.

613
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Just so that their skin can be pretty.

614
00:49:50,000 --> 00:50:00,000
I have known people that I've had more than 12 to 20 abortions using it as a form of birth control.

615
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,000
To a point that once they realize that they probably shouldn't do it or they wanted to have a child.

616
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:13,000
They no longer can have a child anymore because their insides are so torn.

617
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:26,000
So there's just to fight that argument of listening to all the crazy news media that we do see that people are not having choices that is not the truth.

618
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:33,000
The small amount of people that are forced to get pregnant through rape and sex and things like that.

619
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:45,000
So I feel that it would be great to use the same amount of energy money and funds from the taxpayers to deal with those people.

620
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:58,000
The right this, you know, they can be neutered, castrated, you do all kinds of stuff, especially if you have the option now as a man to castrate itself by his choice.

621
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:05,000
So there is plenty of options out there now on and that's just on a legal side.

622
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,000
So I don't know you, I don't know what you believe in your faith.

623
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:24,000
This is a beautiful state that I'm glad that I brought myself to and you believe in a living word of God and majority of the people do.

624
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:44,000
And whether you do or don't that book that Bible has always been a core value of everything history, just everything morals values and one thing that I have noticed in that word is that we know that the blood is life.

625
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Right, their pulse, Yeshua died on the cross to shed his blood, his sacrifice to give us life as long as we choose.

626
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Yeah, the other part in an old and new and all the way up to this day when people sacrificed children.

627
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Boys and girls, it was all sacrifices to Iowa worship.

628
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:28,000
That's it, that's all. And until when Margaret Sanger, the one who created this whole abortion campaign and everything, her primary goal was to get rid of people like me.

629
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:39,000
That's it, that's all. And to have people to just assume that they have a right to decide who lives and who dies is out of order.

630
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:58,000
It's just out of order and it's not the order God makes the decisions. And the moment when people decide that they're making their own decisions outside of God and continue to do sacrificial worship, we do have judgment like Sodom and Gomorrah.

631
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:18,000
And I would like to be in a state and in a city that doesn't have to worry about a judgment coming because people would choose to shed innocent blood life over making better responsible decisions in their walk of life.

632
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:29,000
I ask that you expedite the order ordinance to make this place as sanctuary city to where it's okay to choose to live.

633
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:46,000
And that we don't be condemned because we would like to choose to live and give people the option to go somewhere else like California where the taxpayer dollars will transport you to make those decisions if that's what you want to do.

634
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:56,000
But there are options and we should have an option to live in a place to where it is sacred to the laws and rules of the Lord.

635
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Thank you, Ms. McDonald.

636
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Good evening.

637
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Good evening.

638
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Jack Muse, 28 16 North France Clovis, Mayor of Rotem and Commissioners.

639
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,000
Thank you for this evening.

640
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:21,000
I am 100% in support of getting something done to prevent the abortion industry from coming here.

641
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:27,000
I think that's step number one. Step number two is first to get rid of the governor.

642
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Everyone, everyone in here needs to need to be campaigning and working and take her out of office because she will come after whatever we do, she'll fight it.

643
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:46,000
If we take her out, then we don't have her to battle with and we'll have a lot easier road.

644
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:56,000
So, I encourage all the pastors to speak from their pulpits to get to people out to vote and let's let's turn this state around.

645
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,000
I think there's a red wave coming.

646
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Thank you.

647
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
Thank you, Mr. Muse.

648
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Evening now.

649
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Hi.

650
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,000
My name is Cheryl Hal, my address is 1500 Belvar Court.

651
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
And part of my address is in Texas.

652
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:23,000
I temporarily have been living here for the last year and a half and after the first year, I will actually be moving here permanently.

653
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000
I grew up here. This is my hometown.

654
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:36,000
I want to come back to Texas. Texas is a state that is totally against abortion. They have put laws in place for that.

655
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000
And I love Texas.

656
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
But I love my hometown.

657
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,000
And I've reunited with lots of friends, lots of family. I still have a lot of family that lives here.

658
00:55:46,000 --> 00:56:00,000
And 56 years ago, there was a woman in Texas who contemplated abortion because her parents did not want her to have this baby.

659
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:06,000
It was unheard of. It was back in those days. It was very shameful.

660
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:16,000
And she contemplated it. And she ended up going and staying at a home and having that baby.

661
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,000
And that baby is the father of my children.

662
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,000
And I would not have my children. I would not have my grandchildren.

663
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,000
And they are the life and health of me. I mean, I just love them.

664
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,000
If you have grandchildren, you'll understand what I mean.

665
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:42,000
And now they have a third grandmother because we found her when my daughter was three years old and she's 28 now.

666
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:52,000
And we have an addition to our family who loves that child and we have made her life because she chose life.

667
00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:00,000
And as most of you probably have children and grandchildren, our parents could have said, we don't want you.

668
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:08,000
But we are here, our children are here and our grandchildren are here because our parents, or our grandparents, said,

669
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:20,000
that's what we're going to do. And I just want you to make this a pro-life city.

670
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,000
I want you to make this a place that I can be proud of.

671
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,000
But I can say I came from Texas that look what my hometown has done.

672
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:37,000
They have come. They have conquered. And I want it to be a home and a place where my grandchildren maybe can come back someday.

673
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:49,000
And I also want it to be a place where you can be proud to say that you made this a pro-life city and a place that God can be proud of our leaders in this town.

674
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Thank you.

675
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Thank you myself.

676
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:58,000
Even now.

677
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:07,000
Evening. I'm Katherine Fly. My address is 1150 curry road 16. I live out in the county. I'm not in town.

678
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:15,000
But this is my town. I work here. My kids go to school here. Been here for 25 years.

679
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:24,000
I didn't plan on getting up here. But so glad to be here. I'm sitting here praying under my breath.

680
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
I've been there. You're doing great.

681
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:40,000
I just want to encourage you to not only put this on your agenda, but go ahead and put it to a special session so that we can get this done before the pregnancy resource center.

682
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Thank you. Because COVID is a gateway city. We are the gateway from Texas to New Mexico.

683
00:58:49,000 --> 00:59:07,000
We are the first thing that people see and when they're coming. I mean, I'm out on my 40, but I would love for us to be a gateway for people to not come to New Mexico to have abortions.

684
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:15,000
I don't want them to come and think that's the first stop. We'll just stop there. There's a place right there.

685
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:24,000
I want them to know this is a sanctuary for the unborn that people can't come here to kill their children.

686
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:32,000
But maybe they can come here to have different options that we can have things like the pregnancy resource center.

687
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,000
That will give mothers who don't maybe don't want to be mothers.

688
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Some other options that we can support those women and not have them go for a quick answer that will cause them to have guilt for the rest of their lives.

689
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:58,000
That will have regret for their rest of their lives and put them in a dark place that they shouldn't have to be put in.

690
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,000
So just I want you to consider.

691
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,000
Senator, adding it to a special session and helping Clovis be a gateway to something better.

692
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Thank you, Ms. Fly.

693
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
Evening down.

694
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:24,000
Hi, my name is Linda Drake. I live at 3,100, Lou Wallace Drive, and I just want to say I'm pro-life.

695
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:32,000
And along with my family, we would love nothing more than to see Clovis be a sanctuary city for the important.

696
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,000
And I know you guys are here in a lot tonight, so I'm going to keep it short and sweet.

697
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,000
And that's what I hope you guys love as well.

698
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Thank you. Thank you.

699
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,000
Thank you.

700
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Thank you.

701
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Hi.

702
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
My name is Alexa Petri and I live at 1225 White Avenue.

703
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Welcome.

704
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,000
Thank you.

705
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,000
Although I could stand up here and tell you how wrong abortion is, and it's against our religion.

706
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,000
You know, I was going to say that and you know that.

707
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Yes, abortion is biologically and innately wrong, but I believe that in order for people to feel impacted, they sometimes need a connection beyond pictures.

708
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:16,000
I could spit out constant facts with you about the horrors of abortion, but I cannot make that stick without a connection.

709
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:22,000
This may sound wild at first, but I urge you to stay with me as it will become very logical.

710
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:29,000
In today's society, Jeffrey Dhammer is seen as the American monster.

711
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:35,000
Everyone believes he is sick and a psychotic human being that did horrendous heinous accidents innocent human beings.

712
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:41,000
But yet, the same society who holds these views of Jeffrey Dhammer is also the same society who preses abortion.

713
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Jeffrey Dhammer is the epitome of evil, due to not only killing his victims, but dismembering them and putting them in their parts into fridges and phrases.

714
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,000
So why is it normalized and decensitized when an abortion doctor does the same act? What is the difference?

715
01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:03,000
The difference is that Jeffrey Dhammer had 17 victims and abortion doctors have millions.

716
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:09,000
It is socially acceptable to sympathize abortion because toxic modern day feminism has told you it's okay.

717
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:16,000
As a 20 year old woman, I'm tired of being told that abortion is the only option for me to succeed in life.

718
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:25,000
Saying women need abortion or abortion to become successful is the same as saying women are so inferior to men that they have to slaughter their own baby in order to be equal to men.

719
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Men want you to think this.

720
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:35,000
Men want you to think that abortion equals equality to them because it relieves the responsibility of standing up and being a man.

721
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:41,000
Stop being manipulated by modern day, toxic feminism is finally stand up for the most innocent of us all.

722
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:51,000
Stand up for what you know is correct. So the final question still remains. Do you value human life or only when or only value it when society tells you it's acceptable to value it?

723
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,000
You cannot have five value human life. You cannot pick and choose which lives matter to you.

724
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:03,000
So as I have proven, it's not the ability to value human lives that is the issue here. This is the human worry of not fitting in with society.

725
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:12,000
I'm here to tell you that I'm here to tell you that society is useless if it cannot protect the most basic right to life.

726
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:21,000
I urge you to listen to your ethics and do your job to protect the citizens of your community because the first downfall of any community or society is dehumanizing their own people out of existence.

727
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:27,000
If young 20 year old me can stand up for human life and even stand alone sometimes, I know you can.

728
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:37,000
And after today of all these people out here showing support for you all, and if you still reject this, then I'm not one to sugarcoat things, so the blood will be on your hands now.

729
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Evening sir, good evening Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen of the commission. My name is Norbert Ramper, and I live in Carl Spad at 1403 North Country Club.

730
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,000
You may ask, what the heck is somebody from Carl Spad doing here?

731
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,000
Well, the distance from Carl Spad to the closest abortion meal, the one closest to Carl Spad.

732
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:20,000
It's in Santa Teresa on the west side of El Paso, is within about five miles plus or minus exactly the same as the distance from Carl Spad to Clovis.

733
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:32,000
And those abortions for which maybe Carl Spad ladies go over to Santa Teresa, they may come to Clovis if the abortion industry gets the foothold here.

734
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:48,000
So while you are together with Hobbs and other cities at the eastern state line of New Mexico, where you are at the front line of the war against the pre-born, Carl Spad is still in the rear,

735
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:58,000
but for how long I did post some comments on your website, where it's possible to post comments,

736
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:07,000
and also at an attachment I wanted to commend you for making that possibility available to citizens.

737
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:12,000
So if I want to post in the future, maybe I won't come in person here.

738
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:29,000
But I wanted to be here in person to point out something that many in this room probably don't have a slightest idea of yet, because the fight for the pre-born in Clovis needs to be fought on two fronts.

739
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:47,000
Not only do we have the Texas abortion industrialists leering to come in here and establish their operations here, you already have a federal facility here that is part of the abortion industrial complex.

740
01:05:47,000 --> 01:06:02,000
The veterans administration will actually months ago published a rule that makes abortion available throughout the veterans administration health system.

741
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:12,000
While there may never be abortions at VA clinics, there has already been at least one at a VA hospital.

742
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:22,000
So you have a VA clinic here in town, it is already part of the abortion industrial complex.

743
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:48,000
You should be, I favor of course, the proposed ordinance, and you should be in favor of it as well, and pass it as expeditiously as possible, in your own interests, in the interest of crypto constituents, those constituents of yours who are as we speak are still in the womb and your future constituents.

744
01:06:48,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Murder Incorporated, which is a group consisting of planned parenthood, now the veterans administration, and of course the individual companies from Texas trying to establish themselves in here, they produce nothing but dead babies.

745
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:12,000
If there is no objection, I would like to leave everyone of you with a little souvenir that will remind you.

746
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,000
Yes sir.

747
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:25,000
These are files representing the blood of the unborn and don't worry, it's red paint.

748
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:43,000
I think it is a visual aid to remind you of what you are facing and what you are in it was, because when we talk about abortion, we talk about a sort of accepting or antiseptic concept.

749
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:54,000
I really think about the reality that's a failure of imagination and a failure to actually visualize what happens.

750
01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:01,000
If every time we think about abortion, we would think about an image like this.

751
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:14,000
I think we all would do a lot more and a lot faster, and this is just a doll, and this is red paint, and this is just a news.

752
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:24,000
When people get hanged, they're pretty much dead immediately. They're not being told a part of life, think of the last scene of the brave heart movie.

753
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:38,000
So, I think we need to face this lack of imagination, we need to visualize it, because more blood will be spilled, including in Clovis, if you don't act.

754
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Thank you.

755
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,000
Thank you sir.

756
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,000
Hello Mr. Mitchell.

757
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,000
My name is Lonnie Mitchell. I live at 970 CRV.

758
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:58,000
I know I'm not here in the Clovis city limits, but this is my town.

759
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,000
We live at Greer, so anybody knows where that's at.

760
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,000
But anyway, I want to make it short.

761
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:16,000
I just believe there's a war going on with good and evil, and I believe that this abortion is evil, and we have to fight that with all our minds.

762
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:22,000
Because I believe in life, and I believe everyone of you believe in life. You wouldn't be here if you didn't.

763
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:33,000
But what I'd like to say is, and it kind of was with what the previous man said was, we live on a border of Texas.

764
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,000
We are known as the state of probably the capital of the nation of abortion.

765
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:49,000
And I don't want to be known as the city that is the capital city of abortion, because being a border state, we're going to have them pour over into the city.

766
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,000
If we allow abortions to take place in the city.

767
01:09:53,000 --> 01:10:04,000
So I would like to see you expedite this with special sessions, so we can get this going on and stop this evil that's coming into our city.

768
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,000
Thank you.

769
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,000
Thank you Mr. Mitchell.

770
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:11,000
Good evening.

771
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,000
Good evening.

772
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,000
Thank you, first of all, for having this.

773
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,000
My name is Andrew James Vagaski.

774
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,000
I reside at 1411 South Prince Street.

775
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:34,000
I actually didn't really plan on stepping up, because there's not much more that can be said, but just reiteration of what has probably been spoken better than I could.

776
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,000
I just honestly wanted to share a little bit.

777
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:49,000
First of all, I've only been living here maybe about four years now, and almost immediately fell in love with the place.

778
01:10:49,000 --> 01:11:02,000
It's a place where I pretty much turned my life around, this is the city where I found God, is changed literally my entire life.

779
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:16,000
When I wound up hearing that, you know, this would be a gateway to where children, unborn children will literally be slaughtered at hurt.

780
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:31,000
And one of the things that was passing through my mind as I was listening to everybody else speak is that it's not just the unborn that don't get a choice in the matter.

781
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:36,000
I didn't have a choice.

782
01:11:36,000 --> 01:12:00,000
I would have a 17-year-old daughter, and I didn't find out until about a year afterwards that the woman had an abortion behind my back, and didn't tell me until a year later, it devastated me.

783
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:07,000
Until maybe up to a couple of years ago, I'd always think about it and always beat me down.

784
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:18,000
And what I should be doing now, with her being 17, I should be planning a problem, which should be shopping for colleges, finding out what she wants to do after she graduates.

785
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:23,000
But instead I'm saying in here, talking about it.

786
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:34,000
So when this session comes, protect not only the unborn, but those who will be devastated.

787
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,000
Thank you.

788
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,000
Thank you, sir.

789
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,000
Evening, sir.

790
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,000
Good evening.

791
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,000
Name an address, please.

792
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:50,000
I'm as Bradley Smoot, and I'm an 801 Chase Medal, Lane.

793
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,000
Welcome to us.

794
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:59,000
I'm born and raised here, and I just wanted to bring an example to something a little bit different.

795
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,000
Imagine if you will, you're an astronaut.

796
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000
You've been tasked to go to Mars.

797
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:12,000
You've been there for years, gathering soil samples, working the land.

798
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,000
You've been looking for life for so long.

799
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:24,000
And after so long, finally, a soil sample finally contains bacteria, something that's alive.

800
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:29,000
You report it back to the world, and lo and behold, it reaches everywhere.

801
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,000
New reports that are all over the world.

802
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,000
Life found on Mars.

803
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Finally.

804
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,000
And so I ask you this.

805
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,000
If we're back to you, the science community will consider life on Mars.

806
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:47,000
How could we not consider a fertilized egg as life?

807
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,000
I leave you with that.

808
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Thank you.

809
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Hello, Mr. White.

810
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,000
Welcome.

811
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,000
Ryan White, 41.62.

812
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,000
CRN, grading the Mexico.

813
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:13,000
I want to approach it from a little bit different point of view.

814
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:18,000
I know, the lady who teaches an AMRELO, who's taught special needs.

815
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:26,000
And one of her former students, who is down syndrome, is a vice president of a bank in Kenya, Texas now.

816
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:31,000
Another lady I know who graduated from house was born without.

817
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,000
One arm was no legs and a partial jaw.

818
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:41,000
And she was told her parents were told to literally over there and died.

819
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,000
They did.

820
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:52,000
That woman now is in her 50s and has a son who's just graduated from OSU with a degree in engineering.

821
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:58,000
And has another son who is in medical school at OSU.

822
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,000
Where would...

823
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,280
What my thought to sons, the fact in life, had their mother been allowed to just die, which is, I mean, we're using

824
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:16,960
ultrasound to decide now days to abort people with the end medical test because they're missing

825
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:28,960
limbs, or their imperfect. And one step further, I have a 14-year-old daughter.

826
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:44,480
She's mother was adopted. She's my only child. I wouldn't have her grandmother chosen a

827
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:57,480
day, but abortion instead of having her. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. White.

828
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:10,480
Hello, Mr. Commissioners. My name is George Pistach. I live at 1300 Morris Street here in

829
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:17,480
close. And I came out here this evening for a completely different reason. And I have been totally overwhelmed

830
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:25,480
by the significance of what is going on here this evening before I ever moved out to close. When I was a younger

831
01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:31,480
man, and I could walk well. On at least 100 occasions, I went out and protested in front of abortion

832
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:39,480
mills in the Cleveland area. And we got them to up and shut down or move. There's something we

833
01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:45,480
should all remember. The importance of our old Savior, Jesus Christ, if you're a student of the Bible,

834
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:56,480
you will find in the genealogy of Jesus Christ, both rape and insist exist. So I don't know. I feel silly here.

835
01:16:56,480 --> 01:17:09,480
I came here to ask you to remove a law about chickens. It's quite humiliating in a way, but

836
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:16,480
you know, second chronicle 714, you know, my people are called by their mining. We'll humble themselves.

837
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:25,480
That's the first step you got to humble yourself. Anyway, I don't know. It's important to me that this

838
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:32,480
thing with the chickens be removed, but I feel like I'm so out of place in the magnitude of order

839
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:41,480
here. However, I don't know what to do. Maybe we can talk at a future meeting.

840
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:47,480
Yeah, well, you see, I have a court date coming up here and as long as this issue is on the books, I could get

841
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:57,480
blind or my chickens. I might have to get rid of my chickens. Anyway, I don't know why we restrict chickens here

842
01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:06,480
in close. To me, it violates constitutional rights and the restricts are so severe. You have to have a one acre

843
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:15,480
lot to own 25 chickens and that's a maximum you can own is 25. Whoever wrote the word and it's clearly never owned any chickens.

844
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:24,480
So again, I thank you for your time, but I really feel out of place here because there's so much more important going on here.

845
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:30,480
Right to life is something I've always been behind. So thank you for your time.

846
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:31,480
Thank you.

847
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:38,480
Evening sir.

848
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:43,480
My name is Caleb Barnett, I live at 1551, I'm here in close. Welcome Mr. Barnett.

849
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:44,480
Thank you.

850
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:48,480
So I don't have any prepared remarks. I'll try to be very, very brief.

851
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:57,480
I will say to everyone who spoke, I'm overwhelmed to see so many people in close sharing my faith

852
01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:03,480
and also, and I do believe that's the overwhelming majority of close.

853
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:11,480
But I'm going to talk a slightly different issue than that.

854
01:19:11,480 --> 01:19:20,480
I truly believe that you have to see not only this meeting, but that you just have to feel and to know that this community

855
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:27,480
overwhelmingly would believe that abortion is murder.

856
01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:36,480
But I think the question comes down sometimes just to the reality of realizing that we're in a state that doesn't really care what we believe.

857
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:44,480
And what I'd just like to propose to you, it's an analogy that gets overused so badly, I'm reluctant to bring it up.

858
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:57,480
But if you think of a regular foot soldier in Nazi Germany, and you have an overwhelming force of evil that is commanding you to do things that you have to know a evil.

859
01:19:57,480 --> 01:20:06,480
And you think to yourself, surely, I'm only putting myself in jeopardy. I'm only sticking my neck out to do anything why would I?

860
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:17,480
And I believe that morally and I believe that legally in the United States from the law of less or magistrate would dictate that I believe the Constitution protects life.

861
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:24,480
I believe morally most of us know in our heart that we ought to protect life.

862
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:29,480
And I believe sometimes the best we can do is to protect our own little circle.

863
01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:39,480
And to an extent, I have to be the best individual I can be. And then out of that I have to keep my home and my family, the best it can be.

864
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:45,480
And then I believe we ought to keep our communities the best they can be and our close friends and family and then our towns.

865
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:54,480
And then in God willing that expands, but we're not called to just fold because we think that the people over us are more powerful than us.

866
01:20:54,480 --> 01:21:00,480
And that's that's what I'd ask you to consider because I realize it's an incredibly difficult position that you're being put in.

867
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:07,480
I also realize it probably feels futile in a state that you know is so opposed to what we're talking about tonight.

868
01:21:07,480 --> 01:21:18,480
I think all we can do though is to just stand in our community for what we believe is right with with the laws that would super seed.

869
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:22,480
New Mexico's loss. So that's that's what I ask. Thank you.

870
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,480
Thank you Mr. Barnett.

871
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,480
Welcome sir.

872
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:34,480
Where?

873
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:40,480
I come to talk to you about something that I find it's very, very important.

874
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,480
Sir, let's have your name and address, please.

875
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:45,480
Tommy Hosted 2308, my white court.

876
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:46,480
Thank you.

877
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,480
Could you pull the microphone down just a little bit?

878
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:49,480
There you go. Thank you.

879
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:51,480
They always tell me I'm too loud.

880
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:55,480
I'm faster at Prince Street Baptist Church.

881
01:21:55,480 --> 01:22:04,480
And I want you to know that I have had many opportunities to minister to ladies that's gone through an abortion.

882
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:09,480
The one thing that I see that it causes is for them to lose their self-worth.

883
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:15,480
A woman told me what's a lot of minister and two or she says there's no way it got to love me.

884
01:22:15,480 --> 01:22:19,480
Sorry, that wasn't your time or sorry.

885
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:21,480
I'm sorry for the interruption.

886
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:23,480
I've got bad hearing.

887
01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:25,480
It's a problem over here at time.

888
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:27,480
No need.

889
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:29,480
Okay.

890
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:35,480
But she lost herself worth. She says there's no way a holy God can love me.

891
01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:41,480
And she was willing to go to hell with that ideal because of the fact that she had destroyed her own baby.

892
01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:45,480
I can tell you the truth and the truth is that the cross is life.

893
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:47,480
That's what's found there.

894
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:49,480
She says Christ, we find life.

895
01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:51,480
And Closion's chapter one.

896
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:53,480
And I want to open up to it.

897
01:22:53,480 --> 01:22:55,480
But I want to share it with you too.

898
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:57,480
It talks about that life.

899
01:22:57,480 --> 01:23:01,480
And that life is very, very important.

900
01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:03,480
In Closion's one, starting in verse 13,

901
01:23:03,480 --> 01:23:09,480
it says he rescued us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved son.

902
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:13,480
In him we have redemption and forgiveness of sin.

903
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:16,480
Without that, we will all be cast into eternal death.

904
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:20,480
In fact, if you're here tonight, I don't know if you believe in life or not.

905
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,480
I don't know if you know the Lord Jesus Christ or not.

906
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:26,480
But if you don't, you're walking dead person.

907
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:27,480
That's what you are.

908
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:30,480
And walking dead people don't care people die.

909
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:34,480
I pray that you have life and have it abundantly because that's what Christ is given us.

910
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,480
Is life and to have it abundantly.

911
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:38,480
Not this for today.

912
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,480
For all eternity.

913
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,480
Well, some say, well, I've got life now.

914
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:44,480
I'm worried about that when I get to the end of this life.

915
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:48,480
It's not about that, it's about a relationship with him today.

916
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:50,480
This Clovis have problems.

917
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,480
I don't want to say, yes, we do.

918
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:56,480
You all have been fighting a problem about water for, I don't know how long.

919
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:58,480
It's a critical problem, isn't it?

920
01:23:58,480 --> 01:23:59,480
Who can restore it?

921
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:03,480
Is there a man here that can demand that the aquifer be filled again?

922
01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:05,480
I tell you, there's not.

923
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:09,480
But there's a holy God that is able to do that.

924
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:11,480
I'm fully convinced of that.

925
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:14,480
In fact, he goes on here in verse 15.

926
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:17,480
It says, he is the image of the invisible God.

927
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:20,480
The first born of all creation for by him.

928
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:21,480
All things were created.

929
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:23,480
Both in the heavens and the earth.

930
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:25,480
Visible and invisible.

931
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:28,480
Whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities.

932
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:31,480
All things have been created through him and for him.

933
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:36,480
I want you to know that our forefather David.

934
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,480
He speaks in Psalms 139.

935
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:43,480
It says that before he was ever his substance was ever formed in his mother's womb,

936
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:48,480
already in the book of his life it was written down the last day.

937
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:53,480
God knows from even before from the foundation of the world.

938
01:24:53,480 --> 01:24:57,480
God chose his son that we would have life and have it abundantly.

939
01:24:57,480 --> 01:25:04,480
How can we be those in whom would pass laws that would allow somebody to take life?

940
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:06,480
It would be wrong.

941
01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:10,480
I want to go on here in verse 17, though.

942
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:15,480
It says, he is before all things and in him all things hold together.

943
01:25:15,480 --> 01:25:20,480
If you remove the Lord Jesus Christ from the equation, you have nothing.

944
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:22,480
You won't exist.

945
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,480
It all rests in him.

946
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:31,480
I've already heard that second Chronicles 714's been mentioned in 9.

947
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:36,480
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray.

948
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:39,480
And seek my face and turn from their wicked ways.

949
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:45,480
I will hear from heaven and I will heal their land, heal their land.

950
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:53,480
If we do not humble ourselves, if we do not seek him, if we do not turn from our wicked ways,

951
01:25:53,480 --> 01:25:56,480
there's a promise that goes with that too.

952
01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:58,480
He will bring destruction.

953
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:01,480
I want you to know that that was written to Solomon.

954
01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:05,480
David's own son is who that was written to.

955
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:11,480
By the way, Solomon was a one that was born out of a wedlock.

956
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:18,480
A man was murdered to cover it up.

957
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:24,480
But yet he was the ruler over Israel at the time.

958
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:31,480
What many don't realize about that story, though, is this promise from God with the Solomon.

959
01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:34,480
Solomon did not follow God.

960
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,480
He turned away from him.

961
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,480
He went his own way.

962
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:41,480
I'm here to beg for clothes tonight.

963
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:44,480
I'm here to beg for the state of New Mexico.

964
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:48,480
If we laugh in God's face, we can expect.

965
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:54,480
It's fully expected that what happened to them will happen to us.

966
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:59,480
Tonight, when you get home, open up your Bible to Ezekiel chapter 10 and chapter 11,

967
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:04,480
you will find where the Holy God sat in upon his throne, left the Temple of Solomon.

968
01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:10,480
And when he left that temple, it wasn't about 60 days until destruction come.

969
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:13,480
There was nothing left.

970
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:15,480
They were taken into captivity.

971
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,480
They were put under bondage.

972
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:20,480
And under that bondage, they stayed there for 70 years.

973
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:21,480
You can look at the prophets.

974
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:23,480
And you can see where it was prophesied.

975
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:25,480
Oh, some prophets said, don't worry about it.

976
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:26,480
Any coming.

977
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:27,480
He just builds your houses right here.

978
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:29,480
And it'll be fine right here in our hometown.

979
01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:30,480
But that wasn't what happened.

980
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:32,480
Because the temple was destroyed.

981
01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:39,480
If you look in Nehemiah and in Ezra, you see where there was a new temple that was built.

982
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:46,480
It had everything that the Temple of God had that Solomon's temple had.

983
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:51,480
Except for, I don't think the Ark of the Covenant was there.

984
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:56,480
He said the young man rejoiced over having a place to worship,

985
01:27:56,480 --> 01:28:01,480
but the old man mourned because the glory wasn't in the place.

986
01:28:01,480 --> 01:28:06,480
That means that God had not returned to that temple.

987
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:15,480
I truly believe with all my heart when God returned was when His Son shed His blood upon His earth.

988
01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:23,480
Dad on our behalf was buried and raised and ascended on high.

989
01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:29,480
And in the book of Acts on this book, the Holy Spirit was poured out upon the first believers.

990
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:33,480
God has not stopped that yet and He's still poor in Him.

991
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:36,480
There's hope for this nation.

992
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:38,480
But we have to turn.

993
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,480
I hear a climate change.

994
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:42,480
I heard of it when I was a child.

995
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:45,480
We're going all freeze to death because of all these emissions we're putting up.

996
01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:48,480
It's going to cloud the sun and we're not going to be able to live.

997
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:50,480
When that's not that way is it.

998
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:54,480
Now because of all these emissions we're all going to burn up.

999
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:59,480
I want you to know a truth and it's an absolute truth.

1000
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:11,480
There's come in a day that those that reject Him will wish that it changed because their climate's not going to be very good.

1001
01:29:11,480 --> 01:29:12,480
It's not.

1002
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:15,480
They will find exactly what they believed.

1003
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:17,480
I thank you all for allowing me to speak.

1004
01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:23,480
I ask you all to expedite a decision on this.

1005
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:25,480
No members just around the corner.

1006
01:29:25,480 --> 01:29:28,480
Don't push it until we have to question.

1007
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:30,480
I ask you to bring it.

1008
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,480
We're scared or done.

1009
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:33,480
God loves us.

1010
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:34,480
We need.

1011
01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:35,480
We need.

1012
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:36,480
Just stand for him.

1013
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:37,480
Thank you, sir.

1014
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:45,480
Welcome, sir.

1015
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:46,480
Mayor Council.

1016
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:47,480
Get to be here.

1017
01:29:47,480 --> 01:29:48,480
My name's Mark Lee Dixon.

1018
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:50,480
I'm from Longview, Texas.

1019
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:53,480
Place with a lot of trees over in East Texas.

1020
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:55,480
Not as many trees over in these parts.

1021
01:29:55,480 --> 01:30:00,480
But director with right to life of East Texas and founder was called the Sanctuary.

1022
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,500
Citys for the unborn initiative. I was also the only private citizen who is sued in a lawsuit over the Texas

1023
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:13,000
Harpy Act, which went before the Supreme Court of the United States. And we won. And of course,

1024
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:22,500
as a result of victory after victory in Texas, we saw whole women's health kicked out of Texas. And while that was great

1025
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:30,000
for Texas, that's not great for New Mexico. So leading up to the Texas Harpy Act was the sanctuary

1026
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:37,500
cities for the unborn initiative. And it's still ongoing today. We've seen 51 cities pass ordinances

1027
01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:47,500
that long abortion, and the largest being Lubbock Texas. Planned parenthood had actually set up shop in Lubbock, Texas.

1028
01:30:47,500 --> 01:30:58,500
And in ordinance, that was passed there in Lubbock, ended up stopping the abortion industry from ending the lives of innocent children.

1029
01:30:58,500 --> 01:31:17,500
Planned parenthood sued, but we won. And ever since, June 1st when that ordinance went in effect, no abortions have taken place in Lubbock, Texas.

1030
01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:28,500
Some people tell me that that's Texas, and this isn't possible in New Mexico. Well, myself and my attorney don't believe that.

1031
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:39,500
We believe that it is possible to see cities that are free of abortion in New Mexico. But what it's going to take is people standing up and doing what's right.

1032
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:51,500
It blessed by heart to hear that on Monday there were 25 or so pastors that were meeting together ready to see things move forward.

1033
01:31:51,500 --> 01:32:04,500
I know that there is an ordinance before you guys that some of you guys have not looked out of course yet, but that ordinance is very simple ordinance.

1034
01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:11,500
And it is calling for any abortion provider that would come here to comply with federal law.

1035
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:20,500
It's not too much to ask, right? To comply with federal law.

1036
01:32:20,500 --> 01:32:23,500
My encouragement to you today.

1037
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:33,500
And if this ordinance were to pass, it would have the legal support of my attorney Jonathan F. Mitchell's former Solicitor General for the state of Texas was a law clerk for Justice Scalia.

1038
01:32:33,500 --> 01:32:39,500
Been quoted in court opinions by Lito in Thomas. He represented me before the Supreme Court of the United States.

1039
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:47,500
And he's also representing me before this Supreme Court of Texas in a case that they're going to hear on the 26th of this month.

1040
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:55,500
In fact, attorney General Paxton is going to represent me in that as well on the 26th. Just heard about that.

1041
01:32:55,500 --> 01:33:04,500
But guys, this ordinance before you, very simple. You'll know you'll have the support of the people in this room.

1042
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:20,500
There actually hasn't been one person speaking against this ordinance. There actually has been person after person who's been pleading with you to take action and not into weeks but sooner.

1043
01:33:20,500 --> 01:33:39,500
We've got a crisis pregnancy centers banquet that's two weeks away. And if you all have a special called meeting before then, then I expect every single person in this room to be attending and donating to that banquet.

1044
01:33:39,500 --> 01:33:57,500
Clovis is a pro-life community. New Mexico I believe is a pro-life state. And it's time to take Clovis and New Mexico back. It's time to stand up and be the voice that New Mexicans all across this state need to hear.

1045
01:33:57,500 --> 01:34:05,500
You've got 25 pastors in this city that have backbone that want to stand up and move this forward.

1046
01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:15,500
And I know that you guys have the courage and the backbone to do it is right. And so I encourage you to hate evil to love good and to establish justice within the city gate.

1047
01:34:15,500 --> 01:34:34,500
And perhaps the Lord, the God of hosts, be gracious on the rim of Joseph in Clovis, New Mexico. Not just for Clovis residents, not just for Carlsbad residents, but for all the residents in the state of Texas, they're going to be flooding your city if you don't pass this ordinance. Thank you.

1048
01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:41,500
Yes, so much. God bless. Thank you.

1049
01:34:41,500 --> 01:35:03,500
Good evening, ma'am. I'm current done and I live at 3621 West, Diana West, Dakota and Clovis. And in Jeremiah 15, it tells us that God knew us before we were in the room. And I'm asking you, please do not let the scripture.

1050
01:35:05,500 --> 01:35:11,500
Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Dunn.

1051
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:22,500
Is there anyone else that has something to add to what's already been said?

1052
01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:39,500
Yes, sir. My name's Glenworth. I live at 1814 North Avenue Kaye in Pertales. I'm a life resident in Pertales except for four years here in Clovis. So I represent the people in this community.

1053
01:35:39,500 --> 01:35:51,500
And I would just like to say that I'd like to speak for those that are unborn because I would be a product of one that would have been considered to be aborted.

1054
01:35:51,500 --> 01:36:18,500
My grandmother was she had cerebral palsy. My grandmother never drive drove. She never did sports. She was able to walk. She talked in a really gravely voice that none of you would have been able to understand just because you didn't know her.

1055
01:36:18,500 --> 01:36:47,500
But everybody who knew her wealth would be able to understand her. But because of her, their family choosing life, I am here. And she had six boys and a girl. And just because she had in cerebral palsy they probably would have said you shouldn't even have children. But she brought joy to all of those because she lived.

1056
01:36:48,500 --> 01:37:17,500
The first sign of joy that you yourself brought to a parent, depending on which gender you are, was it's a boy. It's a girl. Whenever you take that away, then from then on it's just this bad decision, this bad thing happened.

1057
01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:27,500
This is something happened. But you get the opportunity in this decision, in this ordinance to choose what is right.

1058
01:37:27,500 --> 01:37:38,500
To make a good choice from a bad choice. All of the choices they say that you have to make are from a bad decision, a rape, insist.

1059
01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:54,500
Some other bad occurrence. A bad time at the bar. What other, I'm sure you and your families probably can testify of all the bad things that you can say in your life that you've had to deal with.

1060
01:37:54,500 --> 01:38:02,500
But this is one thing that you can say that whenever you choose life, it's right.

1061
01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:13,500
God is going to hold all of us accountable for every one of our decisions, no matter what it is. But this is going to be one of them that he's always going to say was the right decision.

1062
01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:27,500
In the beginning God created the heavens in your right following that he created human kind to live in this only this is the only place that suitable for human beings.

1063
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:39,500
The hospital and the physicians they've come along the side God because they're they're supposed to be protecting life with the abortion laws today.

1064
01:38:39,500 --> 01:38:52,500
That's that they take that other hands you can no longer believe what you what you believe to do you go into your medical school and you do study day and night to protect life and suddenly.

1065
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:59,500
No, somebody came in today. They want to be they want their baby killed you take that life away.

1066
01:38:59,500 --> 01:39:15,500
That's it's not fair. It's not fair at all. Those that those that are conceived should have have the right to live because because we had the right to live right.

1067
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:21,500
I don't see anybody saying well, you know, they made a mistake a long time ago.

1068
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:28,500
I guess I'm going to have to go down there and have myself aborted because mom and dad screwed up.

1069
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:31,500
No, that's not what you hear. Is it?

1070
01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:37,500
Every single one of us that are here have chosen life today, right?

1071
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:41,500
I'm just asking you to consider what God tells you to do.

1072
01:39:41,500 --> 01:39:46,500
Well, thank you, sir.

1073
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:54,500
Senator Woods, welcome.

1074
01:39:54,500 --> 01:40:02,500
Good afternoon. My name is Pat Woodson. I lived outside of Broadview a little ways.

1075
01:40:02,500 --> 01:40:10,500
So the difference what we have today is a tough, tough deal.

1076
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:15,500
You know, we've said here for an hour and a half listening to people.

1077
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:22,500
And many of you are sitting here saying, you know, I believe this was the first guy.

1078
01:40:22,500 --> 01:40:28,500
But I keep having heard over and over and I appreciate you allowing people to speak.

1079
01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:35,500
It's at many times it's tough to set behind the counter and hear the same thing over and over again.

1080
01:40:35,500 --> 01:40:42,500
So thank you for that. These people are your constituents and it's important for you to hear them.

1081
01:40:42,500 --> 01:40:48,500
And I thank you. I too would love to see this ordinance passed.

1082
01:40:48,500 --> 01:40:56,500
I believe that across our state, there are sanctuary cities for immigrants.

1083
01:40:56,500 --> 01:41:00,500
There are sanctuary cities for other purposes.

1084
01:41:00,500 --> 01:41:06,500
And this would be a perfectly valid point to make again.

1085
01:41:06,500 --> 01:41:17,500
I know that it's a tough decision because many times these decisions are made because of politics instead of your heart.

1086
01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:28,500
And it's tough because everybody wants to try to make a vote. Try to stay in office. Try to, you know, satisfy your friends.

1087
01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:30,500
And that's tough.

1088
01:41:30,500 --> 01:41:37,500
This is a decision to be made by you and you alone. This is the vote that's going to be hard.

1089
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:44,500
Your attorney is going to make suggestions to you. He's going to, you know, I don't know what he's going to say.

1090
01:41:44,500 --> 01:41:53,500
But all the legal beagles in the world will not make a difference with your heart.

1091
01:41:53,500 --> 01:42:01,500
That's where you have to be on this issue. Mr. Mayor and city commissioners, thank you for the opportunity today.

1092
01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:03,500
Godspeed. God bless.

1093
01:42:03,500 --> 01:42:06,500
Thank you, Senator.

1094
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:17,500
I feel like we've certainly listened to, you know, each of you on this issue.

1095
01:42:17,500 --> 01:42:21,500
And I feel like, you know, we definitely know where this group stands.

1096
01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:29,500
I wouldn't want to, you know, cut someone off if there was someone that really had something additional to bring to the discussion.

1097
01:42:29,500 --> 01:42:33,500
But if it's all right, I think we understand where you're at.

1098
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:42,500
We do have, you know, a little more time for public comment if there's someone that has something they want to bring on a different issue.

1099
01:42:42,500 --> 01:42:49,500
I'll pause for a moment and see if we can hear from you.

1100
01:42:49,500 --> 01:42:51,500
Thank you, left.

1101
01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:54,500
Oh, there you are behind the pillar.

1102
01:42:54,500 --> 01:43:01,500
You're behind the pillar, I mean, I couldn't see it.

1103
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:09,500
Well, I, I just, I want to say thank you to everyone for for your comments.

1104
01:43:09,500 --> 01:43:14,500
Senator Woods hit it when he said that you, we represent you.

1105
01:43:14,500 --> 01:43:21,500
I, I feel like I could, I would sit here and listen all night because you, you, you put me up here.

1106
01:43:21,500 --> 01:43:27,500
And, and I want to represent you accurately and to do that, I need to hear from you.

1107
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:32,500
So, so thank you, and I know that the Mayor Pro Tim and Commissioner's fill the same way.

1108
01:43:32,500 --> 01:43:41,500
Thank you for, for being here for your, your passion about this particular issue and it's, it's, it's been, it's been good. Thank you.

1109
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:47,500
We are going to move on in our, our meeting agenda, which you are welcome to stay for.

1110
01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:54,500
You also won't hurt our feelings if you want to leave.

1111
01:43:57,500 --> 01:44:07,500
Thank you.

1112
01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:37,500
All right, Mayor, Pro Tim and Commissioner's will will try and, and move on here.

1113
01:44:37,500 --> 01:44:40,500
We have our consent agenda up next.

1114
01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:47,500
You know that the consent agenda is, is, is placed here so that you can take care of many items with one motion.

1115
01:44:47,500 --> 01:44:53,500
We have eight items. The first is the motion to place the eight is the motion to approve or acknowledge.

1116
01:44:53,500 --> 01:44:55,500
We have two, two, three, seven, two.

1117
01:44:55,500 --> 01:45:00,500
Request for approval of adoption of resolution number 3159-22.

1118
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,200
Reporting the general obligation bond issue 3 for the community college.

1119
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:13,880
Item 3 request for approval to apply for a Federal Aviation Administration Department of Transportation,

1120
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:22,080
airport terminal program grant for a new terminal at the Clovis Regional Airport and to receive funding

1121
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:29,000
if awarded. Item 4 request for approval of budget transfer in the amount of $16,000, $299.38

1122
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:43,720
From fund 60 capital outlay GRT-287-812-67110 for construction materials testing services at Hillcrest Senior Center.

1123
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:56,000
Item 5 request for approval of budget transfer in the amount of $18,337.63 from fund 60 capital outlay GRT-878712-67110

1124
01:45:56,000 --> 01:46:03,360
For EPX change order number 1 to replace the gas line at Hillcrest Senior Life Center.

1125
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:14,960
Item 6 request for approval to allow for reduced admission for boo in the zoo 6 at the Hillcrest Park Zoo on Sunday, October 30 from 1pm to 4pm.

1126
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:21,440
Item 7 request for approval of an MOU with Commissioner Garza, you want to help me here?

1127
01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:30,440
Thank you for that. That is your consent agenda. Unless there are objections, I would entertain a motion to place the

1128
01:46:30,440 --> 01:46:33,440
indicated items on the consent agenda.

1129
01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:37,440
I have a motion from Commissioner Paula and second question.

1130
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:48,440
I don't too. I just have a quick comment on that. That deal bond. I just want to go on a record stating that does not raise taxes.

1131
01:46:48,440 --> 01:46:58,440
If you like we can pull it out and discuss it or continue with the consent agenda, there is a motion in a second.

1132
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:00,440
Do you want to pull it out?

1133
01:47:00,440 --> 01:47:04,440
No, I didn't want to pull it. I just wanted to get it on record of this particular deal bond does not raise tax.

1134
01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:08,440
Is that a matter of fact, Dr. Smith? Thank you.

1135
01:47:08,440 --> 01:47:16,440
All right. We have a motion to approve the consent agenda from Commissioner Paula, second from Commissioner Jones. Please vote.

1136
01:47:16,440 --> 01:47:32,440
The vote is unanimous and the motion is carried out now in attain a motion to approve or acknowledge all items on the consent agenda.

1137
01:47:32,440 --> 01:47:38,440
Motion for approval from Commissioner Jones, second from Commissioner Garza, Commissioner. Please vote.

1138
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:51,440
The vote is unanimous and the motion is carried out. Thank you.

1139
01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:58,440
I want to new business for you. One item this evening and it is request for approval of budget transfer from fund 60.

1140
01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:04,440
Capital outlay GRT to 871-26760.

1141
01:48:04,440 --> 01:48:15,440
Architectural and engineering fees to cover NCA's Architects Construction Administration of the Hillcrest Senior Life Center in an amount.

1142
01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,440
Not to exceed $300,000.

1143
01:48:18,440 --> 01:48:21,440
I don't go to Mr. Hohaw.

1144
01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:24,440
Thank you, Mayor. May I put them in commissioners.

1145
01:48:24,440 --> 01:48:29,440
NCA Architects fee is based off of a total construction cost of percentage of that.

1146
01:48:29,440 --> 01:48:37,440
Throughout this process, obviously since we had not bid the project, we didn't have a total construction cost that he would be based off of.

1147
01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:44,440
So previously it was based off on the construction estimates that were presented to us and that's how we originally established that fee.

1148
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:52,440
But there is a clause within the AIA documents that allows for that to be adjusted throughout.

1149
01:48:52,440 --> 01:49:03,440
And so now that we do have the bid in, they were seeking to adjust that contract to the percentage based off of the total award,

1150
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:10,440
so the $7.7 million versus the $4.3 million during the original cost estimate process.

1151
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:21,440
The reason that I have in there and requested that we have a not to exceed number of $300,000 is that I'm going to go back to NCA Architects and see if we can negotiate that down.

1152
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:38,440
It wouldn't be any higher than that $300,000 increase to it simply because the level of effort certainly hasn't changed on their part from even from the first time when we bid it to what it currently is the exact same building that's in place.

1153
01:49:38,440 --> 01:49:49,440
What we're seeking this evening is that you allow us basically a ceiling of $300,000 and then I'll go back and work with NCA Architects to establish what that final fee would be.

1154
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:55,440
And with your approval this evening, that will allow us to enter into contract with them and of course continue on with the process.

1155
01:49:55,440 --> 01:50:01,440
So without them having to answer any questions that you may have this evening.

1156
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:04,440
Pretty clear to me any questions.

1157
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:07,440
What was the original amount?

1158
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:15,440
I know you said it was a percentage but it's 6.6 so the original fee was based off of a $4.3 million.

1159
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:25,440
So a little under $430,000 off my top my head going with 10% in there.

1160
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:28,440
Let's see if that again.

1161
01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:31,440
It was originally 4.3 or was it originally?

1162
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:34,440
4.3 million was the S&D construction cost, right?

1163
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:37,440
6.6% of that $4.3 million.

1164
01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:45,440
283,800.

1165
01:50:45,440 --> 01:50:46,440
Correct.

1166
01:50:46,440 --> 01:50:52,440
And so now the total cost of the project is in the high seven millions and if we applied that same six

1167
01:50:52,440 --> 01:50:54,440
to it that would make it go up quite a bit.

1168
01:50:54,440 --> 01:51:02,440
But as you've explained, you're going to talk to the firm and say look, yeah, you haven't performed any more work or that's correct.

1169
01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:07,440
So I don't see an increase above that 300,000 original 200.

1170
01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:09,440
283.

1171
01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:10,440
283.

1172
01:51:10,440 --> 01:51:11,440
Correct.

1173
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:16,440
And no doubt you'll have the bargaining tool that this commission has approved 300 and no more.

1174
01:51:16,440 --> 01:51:18,440
That is correct.

1175
01:51:18,440 --> 01:51:19,440
Okay.

1176
01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:20,440
I move for approval.

1177
01:51:20,440 --> 01:51:21,440
Okay.

1178
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:24,440
Motion for approval from Commissioner Paul II from Commissioner Jones.

1179
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:26,440
Any further discussion or debate?

1180
01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:34,440
Hearing and seeing none, please vote.

1181
01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:35,440
The vote is unanimous.

1182
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:36,440
The motion is carried.

1183
01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:38,440
Thanks for that explanation, Mr. Hallwald.

1184
01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:40,440
We move on to reports.

1185
01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:42,440
The first planned report was, love the zoo.

1186
01:51:42,440 --> 01:51:44,440
We got that one earlier.

1187
01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:51,440
Have a new review committee on your Monday September 26 meeting or just generally revenue review committee.

1188
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:52,440
Commissioner Jones.

1189
01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:53,440
Yes, Mayor.

1190
01:51:53,440 --> 01:51:54,440
Thank you.

1191
01:51:54,440 --> 01:51:55,440
It was quite lengthy meeting.

1192
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:56,440
I think we were for three hours.

1193
01:51:56,440 --> 01:51:59,440
If I'm not mistaken or close to it.

1194
01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:02,440
We did approve three recommendations.

1195
01:52:02,440 --> 01:52:03,440
We bring to the commission.

1196
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:05,440
We we tabled two others.

1197
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:08,440
And we'll be hearing those on the 12th at 530.

1198
01:52:08,440 --> 01:52:10,440
Hopefully for our final meeting.

1199
01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:12,440
Once we get the data that we requested from those.

1200
01:52:12,440 --> 01:52:14,440
But it was a very productive meeting, I believe.

1201
01:52:14,440 --> 01:52:17,440
And some great proposals were brought forward.

1202
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:18,440
Great.

1203
01:52:18,440 --> 01:52:19,440
Thank you for that.

1204
01:52:19,440 --> 01:52:21,440
That's a great work.

1205
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:22,440
That committee does.

1206
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:24,440
Thanks for heading that up, Commissioner.

1207
01:52:24,440 --> 01:52:25,440
Next.

1208
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:28,440
Wings and wheels took place last Saturday.

1209
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:29,440
October 1st.

1210
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:33,440
I had to be out of town watching our high school band.

1211
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:36,440
When a band of America competition in Flagstaff, Arizona.

1212
01:52:36,440 --> 01:52:38,440
So I missed this.

1213
01:52:38,440 --> 01:52:40,440
Can someone tell us about it?

1214
01:52:41,440 --> 01:52:44,440
It was a rally with there.

1215
01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:46,440
I was not there for very long.

1216
01:52:46,440 --> 01:52:47,440
But it was.

1217
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,440
There were a lot of people there.

1218
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:51,440
There were a lot of cars in the car show.

1219
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:53,440
There were a lot of vendors there.

1220
01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:56,440
So it seemed like a well attended event from the short time that I was there.

1221
01:52:56,440 --> 01:52:57,440
Glad to hear that, Commissioner.

1222
01:52:57,440 --> 01:52:58,440
Thank you.

1223
01:52:58,440 --> 01:52:59,440
How about Commissioner Porter?

1224
01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:01,440
I know you've involved with car show portion.

1225
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,440
Is that correct?

1226
01:53:02,440 --> 01:53:03,440
Well.

1227
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:06,440
My intention was to be.

1228
01:53:06,440 --> 01:53:07,440
Yes.

1229
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:09,440
But I was actually called to work on that day.

1230
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:12,440
I got far enough to get my truck out there.

1231
01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:13,440
And then that was about it.

1232
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,440
So I didn't get to see the results.

1233
01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:16,440
Okay.

1234
01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:17,440
I heard it was a good day.

1235
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:19,440
Mayor, for the commissioners.

1236
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:20,440
Vicki and Claire were there all day.

1237
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:23,440
So I'm sure I need to be a thorough report.

1238
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:25,440
It was just as you said.

1239
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:27,440
It was a very good event.

1240
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:28,440
Everybody had a good time.

1241
01:53:28,440 --> 01:53:30,440
The weather was good for the most part.

1242
01:53:30,440 --> 01:53:31,440
But it was a little breezy.

1243
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:36,440
So the the jumpers weren't able to jump out of the AC 130.

1244
01:53:36,440 --> 01:53:38,440
That was a great day.

1245
01:53:38,440 --> 01:53:40,440
And thank you for your support of it.

1246
01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:44,440
It's just a wonderful opportunity to showcase the airport folks in

1247
01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:45,440
to join themselves.

1248
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:47,440
Smalls and Corbin were response here and they came out.

1249
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:51,440
And they said that let's cruises as an event like this.

1250
01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,440
But it's nowhere near as large as.

1251
01:53:53,440 --> 01:53:54,440
Clobuses.

1252
01:53:54,440 --> 01:53:58,440
So they were very impressed with everything that that was been done.

1253
01:53:58,440 --> 01:53:59,440
And I have been done.

1254
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:03,440
Thanks to Commissioner Porter to Brian.

1255
01:54:03,440 --> 01:54:07,440
I'm Greg and name for supporting to with the car show bringing so many

1256
01:54:07,440 --> 01:54:08,440
cows out of his great.

1257
01:54:08,440 --> 01:54:09,440
Thank you.

1258
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:13,440
Thank you for that.

1259
01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:14,440
Thank you for that, Miss Burrows.

1260
01:54:14,440 --> 01:54:15,440
Appreciate it.

1261
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:20,440
And excited to see that event just continue to get better and better in the years to come.

1262
01:54:20,440 --> 01:54:22,440
Mayor, Pro Temo, you have a report.

1263
01:54:22,440 --> 01:54:23,440
I do.

1264
01:54:23,440 --> 01:54:28,440
The line's club invited me actually to come to the boxing.

1265
01:54:28,440 --> 01:54:33,440
So I did a 10.

1266
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:38,440
There were 28 bouts and approximately 500 people in attendance.

1267
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:43,440
So it was a wonderful and a great event.

1268
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:44,440
Hell that Roy Walker.

1269
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:45,440
It was a very walker.

1270
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:46,440
Standing room only.

1271
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:47,440
Yeah.

1272
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:48,440
Wow.

1273
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:49,440
Yeah.

1274
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:50,440
Outstanding.

1275
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:51,440
I got the invitation to that one too.

1276
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:52,440
And I really did want to go.

1277
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,440
I'm going to have to go next time.

1278
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:55,440
Thanks for that report.

1279
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,440
I'll report briefly on some really good news.

1280
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From Eastern and Mexico Water Utility Authority Board.

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We held a board meeting and approved a very exciting grant agreement.

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I'll show the title of the grant agreement with you.

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We approved a financial assistance agreement titled.

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The Eastern and Mexico rule water system completion agreement.

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So the United States of America through the Bureau of Reclamation has now offered us,

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which was approved last week.

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A completion grant agreement for the U.P. pipeline project.

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Which is very exciting.

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We've long understood that we cannot accomplish this without their support.

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Without the state support.

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And obviously the members are local match.

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At 10%, but the federal government taking care of 75% of that is a huge.

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Well, it makes it possible.

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And we've long understood that they're committed to the project.

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It's federally authorized project.

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But having that grant agreement in hand is that it's tangible evidence of that of that commitment.

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So that was a milestone kind of day with the Water Authority.

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Any other reports from boards or committees?

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All right, you're in seeing none.

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We'll talk about future agenda items.

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As I mentioned earlier, I would like to see on a future on the next meeting.

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The the ordinance that has been discussed any other future agenda items.

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This is for all.

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Yes, this is for all.

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The committee.

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The whole tech will be here at the next commission meeting to give a briefing.

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Regarding their proposed work.

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I'm in Eddie County.

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We've got a water policy vacancy on their planning and zoning commission.

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A approval of designating an alternate judge for municipal court.

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And we're still looking for that district to public works committee person.

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Thank you.

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District two public works committee.

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There's gotta be someone in district two that's meant to serve there.

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Thanks.

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I appreciate that upcoming meetings include.

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Let me make sure that the printed version matches.

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Yeah.

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Water policy advisory committee eight thirty a.m. Monday October 10th here in this room.

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Planning and zoning has been canceled.

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How about the rest of this list?

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Is it all a go?

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Good.

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Planning and zoning commission for the time being is going to meet at three p.m.

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On Wednesday October 12th revenue review will be meeting again five thirty p.m.

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October.

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Wednesday October 12th.

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Parks and Rec.

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beautification committee five thirty p.m. on Monday October 17th.

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The finance committee will meet at two p.m. on Wednesday October 19th in the small

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conference room over at city hall and the next city commission meeting will take place.

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Thursday October 20th here in this room.

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Thank you.

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We are adjourned.