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I, Stacy Bloomberg,
>> do solemnly swear
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» do solemnly swear
>> that I will support, protect, and defend
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» that I will support, protect, and defend
>> the Constitution of the United States,
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» the Constitution of the United States,
>> and the Constitution of the State of
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Montana,
>> and the Constitution of the State of
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Montana,
>> and that I will discharge the duties
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» and that I will discharge the duties
>> of my office of city councilor
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» of my office of city councilor
>> with fidelity, so help me God.
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» with fidelity, so help me God.
Thank you.
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» All right. Moving on, we have a
volunteer firefighter appointment. We'll
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go to the fire chief.
>> Councilman Chase Conway put his
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application in
almost two months ago now,
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and since then he's attended every
training, he's came and helped us at the
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practice.
And I'm really going to be a great
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addition, so I'd recommend him.
He's sworn in as a probationary member.
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» All right. Thanks to you.
>> [clears throat]
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» Swear him in.
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» Raise your right hand. Repeat after me.
I, Chase Conway,
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» I, Chase Conway,
>> do solemnly swear
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» Do solemnly swear
>> That I will support protect and defend
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» That I will support protect and defend
>> The constitution of the United States
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» The constitution of the United States
>> And the constitution of the state of
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Montana
>> And the constitution of the state of
[2:10]
Montana
>> And that I will discharge the duties of
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my office
>> And I will discharge the duties of my
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office
>> As a probation probationary volunteer
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fireman
>> As a probationary volunteer fireman
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» With fidelity so help me God
>> With fidelity so help me God
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» All right Is there any other business is
there any public comment?
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If you're not on the agenda you can uh
address council
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I would
>> [clears throat]
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» Uh
Kyle Slaughter uh 626 7th Avenue West
[3:12]
was just curious if there was any
updates on the road construction
[3:15]
um
I haven't
[3:17]
looked into it so I apologize if there's
information that's out there
[3:21]
but just hearing a lot of frustrated
uh
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community members so just
was curious if there's any official
[3:30]
update on what the heck is going on in
this mess up there
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» The I I believe we're looking at an
update when you get to the manager's
[3:40]
report
[3:43]
No I didn't see it's in manager's report
I didn't see it on the agenda so that
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would be uh
We're in the meeting
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See the manager's report
Okay see
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Okay, that on his agenda.
Anyone Anyone else who wishes to address
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council?
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You're ready.
Seeing none.
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We'll move on.
Uh
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next is continuing our efforts
concerning the uh
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the budget for 2023.
With this year
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and coming year
we'll go to city manager.
[4:42]
The mayor and council are extending the
uh
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the budget hearing and shifting it to
the final budget uh process.
[4:51]
Uh today we'll talk through the
different mill levies and the different
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tax collection uh collections and also
give some education on the new tax code
[4:59]
uh and overview
for the council and residents.
[5:07]
Reminder of the mission statement and
budget message
[5:11]
and the council priorities that are in
the packet and available for everybody
[5:15]
to review.
So, the 2025 legislative session uh
[5:20]
there were significant changes to the
property tax system for tax year 2025
[5:24]
and tax year 2026. Those tax years
uh
[5:28]
are related to fiscal year 2026 and then
fiscal year 2027 revenues for the city.
[5:34]
So, in 2025 uh tax year, the graduated
tax rate will be replaced with a
[5:39]
standard 1.35%
uh standard tax rate for all all um
[5:45]
all residential properties.
And in 26, they uh uh
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um voted to break that down into a more
graduated system. Um those are
[5:56]
displayable for right now.
And then commercial and industrial at
[6:01]
the bottom. Um but we're seeing
significant tax savings. Uh for
[6:07]
residential, there's tax savings up to
about 2.5 million dollars. Yes, there's
[6:11]
tax savings up until that point. And
then after that, it's actually tax
[6:15]
increasing.
Uh the significant increase you'll see
[6:19]
in is second homes, uh which will be
taxed at a 1.9% rate, which is the same
[6:25]
as the 1.5 million dollars or above
rate. A significant increase in taxes
[6:31]
for those second homeowners.
Uh the the difference if the home is a
[6:37]
long-term rental, they still get the
primary residential rate. Um so this is
[6:41]
only for short-term rentals or truly
second homes. That we're not a long-term
[6:47]
Long-term rentals are taxed at the same
rate as uh
[6:50]
primary residence.
Any questions on that uh
[6:54]
statement? I have one until we uh
>> You You live here as a year-round deal
[6:59]
for 6 or 7 months and you're not there.
Is that considered a
[7:03]
second home or is that still your
primary residence even if you're living
[7:07]
in a camper trailer?
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» I I can't speak with absolute certainty
on that scenario, but you I know you
[7:18]
can't Your primary residence is well
identified by Department of Revenue. Um
[7:23]
but if that
second home is being used as a either
[7:28]
second home or a cabin or something like
that, and/or VRBO, then it would be at
[7:34]
the 1.9%
only if you have a long-term tenant in
[7:38]
that home, would you have the
residential rate is my understanding.
[7:43]
» Okay.
>> you.
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» I and I do believe the Department of
Revenue says 7 months or more to to
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qualify for
our our room city tax.
[7:54]
» There was some question if the house is
on the long-term market
[7:58]
and it's not rented, how's that work?
And is there loopholes for that? You
[8:04]
know, there's so many different
scenarios that people are looking
[8:07]
through and
I'm sure CPAs are advising their
[8:11]
clients accordingly.
But
[8:15]
that's my understanding of the tax code.
[8:22]
So,
city received a certified tax values a
[8:25]
week ago.
Our total
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taxable valuation has doubled from
fiscal year '21 from 8.3 million to 16.6
[8:34]
million.
And then our tax increment financing
[8:37]
districts, which reminder is one block
on each side of New Place
[8:41]
and then two blocks on each side of
Highway 2 and also the Cedar Palace
[8:47]
Medical Center area. Um that incremental
growth and incremental growth reminder
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is uh
the amount of growth that happened from
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the base year of all our different tax
increment districts or any tax increment
[9:02]
financing districts. So, that's what an
increment of growth is. So, from my 2014
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to 2021, we had an incremental growth of
about 635,000.
[9:10]
And in these last 6 years, the growth
has been another 3 million dollars worth
[9:15]
of taxable growth in that district.
[9:19]
Um
>> [clears throat]
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» So,
another thing in the legislation
[9:25]
25 expanded the levy authority this year
um which will allow us to tax uh raise
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our tax revenue to full rate of
inflation. It used to be limited to half
[9:35]
the rate of inflation.
Um, but it also removes 75% of new lit
[9:41]
taxable class four properties, which
pretty much all our properties are class
[9:45]
four properties. So, we actually, as a
growing city, actually
[9:50]
are losing
in this new formula
[9:53]
uh for growth.
Um, so, we'll we'll see what the impacts
[9:57]
of that are. We're trying to run some
calculations, but um
[10:01]
um but a reminder uh property tax
revenue is a minor part of our overall
[10:06]
budget. Um,
less than 6% of all our revenue gained
[10:11]
across the city. And if you take out the
grants,
[10:15]
um it's less than 10% of our entire
revenue that runs the city is property
[10:20]
taxes. So, it's minor in the grand
scheme of things.
[10:24]
Uh the the 2.97%
full inflation factor, uh you know,
[10:28]
increased our tax revenue by $35,000
total.
[10:32]
So, it's a minor
[10:35]
Uh also, highlight the average inflation
comparisons uh for the last 10 years.
[10:41]
Um, e- be it consumer price index, the
municipal cost index, or um construction
[10:47]
cost index,
clearly the rate of inflation that we're
[10:51]
limited by and the fact that we're at at
half the rate of inflation you can make
[10:55]
worse
to keep up with the significant cost to
[10:59]
run the city and uh with construction.
[11:03]
» [snorts]
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» Uh by statute, we have to uh provide
estimated taxes for three phases:
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$100,000, $300,000, and $600,000 homes.
We've also included million-dollar homes
[11:17]
on this chart um to show how the new
property taxes work. Um
[11:23]
it's pretty interesting that um if you
look at the bottom of the screen for
[11:27]
fiscal year '25, there's a typo there,
uh to '27 tax comparison,
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um
primary residents are still paying less
[11:37]
in taxes
um over the last couple years.
[11:41]
Um
but you can kind of see where that
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non-primary residency tax
is actually going to pay significantly
[11:47]
more taxes over that
a $600 or $558 gain for
[11:53]
average home price of $600,000 in the
city.
[11:59]
Any questions on that breakdown of
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average home price to square average tax
value?
[12:08]
So, for a tax bill in
um 20 tax bill for tax year 20
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um
the 2025 tax bill, which is associated
[12:18]
with fiscal year 26, so the tax bill
hasn't come out yet.
[12:22]
Um gives a representative representative
um distribution of our taxes and where
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that money goes for a $600,000 home.
Uh the city is about 25% the schools are
[12:34]
about 40% the county's state around 16%
and then other being cemetery district
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and um
conservation district and a few other
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smaller districts are in the other
portion. And then our city tax breakdown
[12:48]
uh you can see where there's this resort
tax relief
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um
provides
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um about $212 of relief for a $600,000
home.
[12:59]
And then the mental health, lighting
district, and street maintenance. The
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lighting district and street maintenance
uh changes with each property. The rest
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of them should stay the same based on
value, but the lighting district is
[13:10]
based on how much linear footage you
have uh facing a road that is lit. And
[13:15]
then a
um street maintenance is based on the
[13:17]
amount I'm pretty sure. So, those
numbers will change based on the
[13:21]
individual property.
And then anybody can look up their taxes
[13:25]
at find it county.gov and then pull up
there.
[13:31]
Are there any questions on this workout
or distribution?
[13:41]
» [clears throat]
>> So, the uh determination of tax revenue
[13:45]
and mill levy, this is the form that the
state provides us uh and then on the
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left is our certified tax values. There
are the summaries uh in the top-left
[13:53]
corner between last year and this year.
Um
[13:58]
we expect to see significant new growth
next year as Stockton Bank gets
[14:02]
finished. Uh the hotel probably won't be
finished with the next certified tax
[14:06]
value, but there'll be some um some more
businesses that are
[14:12]
um
are complete by then. So, we'll we'll
[14:15]
see over the next couple of years
uh significant growth in um
[14:20]
newly taxable properties.
>> Eric, I have a question for you, though.
[14:25]
The new bank that we have uh Parkside
Parkside, has that been our tax revenue?
[14:30]
Is that reflected in our taxes here?
>> Uh the Stockton Bank is not. It's not in
[14:35]
the mill.
It's There's There's at some rate, but
[14:39]
there's not their full, you know, 9 or
10 million dollar, you know, valuation
[14:43]
added.
>> Who said it was?
[14:45]
I'm I was talking about
Parkside.
[14:47]
» Oh, Parkside then, I'm sorry. It's
operational. I'm sorry. I thought you
[14:50]
were talking about Stockton, which is
finishing up right now.
[14:54]
» Yeah, that's I was going to ask you
about that. Uh
[14:55]
we were getting I mean, we needed How I
don't even know how long Parkside's been
[14:59]
there. I know it takes but a year and a
half before we started seeing any
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uh
revenue.
[15:05]
» I'm I'm not 100% positive. I would have
to to take a look at what the last
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couple of years have been for that
property
[15:12]
to see where the jump happened.
[15:22]
The resort tax impact of property taxes
uh
[15:26]
is highlighted here. Um this year um
we finally caught up to where we were in
[15:32]
fiscal year '22 on actual property taxes
collected. So, you can see the resort
[15:37]
tax uh offsetting
uh
[15:40]
the overall collections
of um our property taxes.
[15:46]
Uh and meanwhile, obviously I
with that resort tax also added
[15:51]
uh the growth of parks park department
and uh police and uh some infrastructure
[15:56]
to
money flow.
[15:59]
Uh overall, the last um uh since the
history of the resort tax is $2.2
[16:04]
million in tax reductions have happened
uh with that collection.
[16:12]
Any questions?
[16:18]
These are just the forms that'll be
mandatory that we have to uh provide to
[16:22]
the state um that how how we calculate
the mill levy.
[16:26]
Um
and it shows that we're in balance
[16:30]
uh within the general fund.
Uh
[16:33]
our minimum reserve for a 20% um is
$1,025,000.
[16:39]
Our reserves will be uh $1.374
uh million dollars above our 20%. Um
[16:48]
what we're asking, something that's new
this year, um
[16:53]
with the significant amount
projects are capital improvement plan,
[16:57]
the
intent from the staff is to not to
[17:00]
transfer the additional reserve into the
capital programs. However, put a
[17:05]
restricted cash or restricted surplus
capital account in our general fund um
[17:11]
that will then restricted, but we're not
ready to decide where that money needs
[17:16]
to go, but with so many projects coming
forward, we'd rather have that
[17:19]
restricted cash in the general fund, so
we have a lot more flexibility to move
[17:24]
it to the right capital program
as we, you know, go out to bid on a lot
[17:29]
of different projects.
To increase flexibility, we'll still
[17:33]
reserve it. We're recommending we
reserve a $300,000
[17:37]
in that restricted surplus cash.
Um that compared with about maybe
[17:43]
$115,000
that we transferred from the general
[17:47]
fund or recommended transfer from the
general fund to capital this year. So,
[17:52]
our capital program will grow by uh
uh $415,000
[17:58]
basically
with that
[18:01]
this year. So,
are there any questions
[18:05]
on that or comments on the
restricted cash?
[18:17]
This is
uh all the non-levy funds uh to share
[18:21]
balance. Um as you can tell,
um
[18:25]
total appropriations uh within the
general fund is just over $5 million and
[18:30]
then the non-levy funds our
appropriations this year $20.6 million.
[18:35]
Of that um
is $6.3 million for the race project and
[18:40]
then $2.3 million uh for the projected
uh congressional uh project funding
[18:46]
um that we're
[18:50]
hopeful for that has passed through the
US House
[18:54]
um and is waiting for Senate approval on
the Agriculture Act.
[18:58]
But so, that $20 million budget uh
or $26 million budget overall uh is what
[19:04]
we're looking to execute this year.
[19:10]
And then once again, a mandatory form
that we have to include in the budget
[19:13]
book uh included here it shows you the
history and as the
[19:18]
as our
mill levies
[19:22]
our value per mill goes
the number of mills we can
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assess go down and it shows for a
healthier
[19:32]
city that's a good factor to be on
and this kind of shows that history.
[19:39]
» [snorts]
[19:42]
» And that concludes
my brief anything I missed or didn't
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include?
>> Um
[19:50]
no.
I think I covered everything.
[19:53]
» Okay.
All right,
[19:57]
at this time thank you for that.
At this time did any one of the council
[20:01]
have any questions for
manager
[20:03]
» [clears throat]
>> or finance director concerning the
[20:05]
budget?
Anybody in the audience have any
[20:09]
questions for
finance [clears throat] director or the
[20:11]
manager?
If not we'll open or we'll reopen the
[20:16]
hearing
evening
[20:18]
preliminary budget.
[20:23]
» If you have public comments or if you
wish to testify please do so now.
[20:30]
» Anyone here?
We'll continue this this hearing.
[20:35]
We will will be going to final approval
of the budget instead of December.
[20:40]
» Right, it'll be the the next uh council
meeting we'll have the budget message
[20:44]
and then final product to to approve.
Tonight we'll send uh we're recommending
[20:49]
that you approve the resolutions that
will set levies so we can get those to
[20:52]
the county so they can
>> So the first so the first meeting in
[20:55]
September we will approve our our budget
approve the final budget which is like
[20:59]
18th.
>> I believe that cuz we have we have a
[21:02]
Tuesday. Yeah.
>> Okay, thank you.
[21:06]
You're welcome.
You know I guess we can move on.
[21:13]
» Resolution ordinances and resolutions.
Resolution number 1973.
[21:18]
Levy and assessments on property within
special assessment districts.
[21:34]
» Also, Mayor, I'm going to reset this.
[21:46]
Uh Mayor and Council, uh resolution 1973
uh sets the
[21:52]
um
[21:56]
the levy from assessment for street
lighting. Uh street lighting is based on
[22:00]
the linear uh footage of frontage along
the streets. City Clerk, uh by statute,
[22:07]
calculates
the uh new properties that have been
[22:10]
annexed into the city in these
districts, and then uh assesses those
[22:14]
values based on
uh
[22:17]
The staff recommendation um
was to keep the lighting district the
[22:23]
same as uh previous years uh as we were
able to meet meet our lighting
[22:29]
requirements.
to meet our lighting costs. So, uh no
[22:33]
changes in the lighting district. The
street maintenance district, if you
[22:37]
recall, um
several council sessions ago highlighted
[22:40]
how we calculated the street maintenance
based on acreage, and then that's on a
[22:45]
five-year program. We're in year four, I
believe, of that growth, and the council
[22:49]
staff had recommended we continue on
that 5% growth.
[22:55]
It is still
grossly insufficient to actually pay for
[22:59]
all uh requirements for the street
department, which is all made in gas tax
[23:03]
fund instead of general fund.
Uh so,
[23:07]
uh at some point we'll we'll need to
make a decision on you know, asphalt on
[23:11]
our streets, it's just not this year
that we recommend to change that
[23:15]
schedule up.
So, we're recommending uh approval of
[23:19]
resolution 1973 levying the uh
assessments upon light district
[23:24]
treatments. Any questions
[clears throat] for the council
[23:26]
concerning this?
[23:29]
Seeing none, may I have a motion,
please?
[23:33]
Motion to approve resolution 1973.
Second.
[23:38]
Motion has been made and seconded to
approve resolution 1973
[23:42]
levying assessments upon
local improvement district. May I have a
[23:46]
roll call, please?
Councilor King? I.
[23:50]
Councilor Piper? I.
Councilor Price? I.
[23:54]
Councilor Robinson? I.
Councilor Stubbs? I.
[23:59]
Councilor Bloomberg? I.
Mayor Burnette? I. Resolution 1973 is
[24:06]
approved.
Uh next item is resolution 1974
[24:11]
redefining the area included within the
Columbia Falls Street Maintenance
[24:15]
District and the method of assessment.
Mr. Mayor, council, um this is pretty
[24:22]
straightforward. This is the list of new
properties that have been added to the
[24:26]
register that that's used in the
calculations of the local
[24:29]
street. Okay. Do you have any questions
for the council?
[24:33]
Seeing none, may I have a motion?
Make a motion that we approve resolution
[24:39]
number 1974.
Second. Motion has been made and
[24:44]
seconded to approve resolution number
1974 redefining the area included within
[24:50]
the Columbia Falls Street Maintenance
District and method of assessment. Um
[24:54]
may I have a roll call, please?
Councilor Piper?
[24:57]
» Aye.
>> Councilor Price?
[24:59]
» Aye.
>> Councilor Robinson?
[25:00]
» Aye.
>> Councilor Stubbs? Aye.
[25:04]
Councilor Bloomberg? Aye.
Councilor King?
[25:07]
» Aye.
>> Mayor Barnhart?
[25:09]
» Aye.
>> Resolution number 1974
[25:13]
is approved.
Next is resolution number 1975, city
[25:18]
property tax levy.
>> And we are Council, this is following
[25:24]
today tonight's brief uh in the
calculation that we used to
[25:29]
calculate the total mills
staff recommends that we levy 140.64
[25:37]
mills.
Um that includes the resort tax offset
[25:41]
as well as uh the uh fire relief mills
and permissive medical levy mills.
[25:50]
» Any Council?
[25:53]
» I'm good with that explanation. All
right.
[25:55]
» Uh may I have a motion, please?
[26:01]
» Motion to approve resolution 1975.
>> Second.
[26:05]
» Motion's been made and seconded to
approve resolution number 1975
[26:10]
setting the city property tax levy. May
I have a roll call, please?
[26:15]
» Councilor Price?
>> Aye.
[26:17]
» Councilor Robinson?
>> Aye.
[26:19]
» Councilor Stubbs?
>> Aye.
[26:21]
» Councilor Bloomberg?
>> Aye.
[26:23]
» Councilor King?
>> Aye.
[26:26]
» Councilor Piper?
>> Aye.
[26:27]
» Mayor Barnhart?
>> Aye.
[26:30]
» Resolution number 1975 is approved.
[26:39]
All right.
Reports from Council and Mayor.
[26:42]
John, what do you have for us this
evening?
[26:44]
» I
I have absolutely nothing, Mr. Mayor.
[26:47]
» Boy, there's got to be something
bouncing around.
[26:49]
» Well, there was, but
but I didn't do any measurements, I'm
[26:52]
going to
hold my peace until next meeting.
[26:56]
Thanks.
>> Stacy.
[26:58]
» I'm grateful to be here and learning
from all of you and thankful to be able
[27:01]
to serve our community. Nothing else.
>> All right. Thank you.
[27:05]
» I'm good for this evening.
[27:09]
» I just wanted to welcome Stacy to the
council and look forward to working with
[27:14]
you and thank you for throwing your hat
in the ring.
[27:17]
That That means a lot to see so much
interest in our community.
[27:21]
Um also, I just wanted to thank you uh
Eric for getting the speed limits
[27:26]
painted on the walking path.
Um that's a step forward, but we're
[27:31]
still installing the signs. Um
we're still going to be doing that.
[27:35]
» Okay. They're on order. Picture of the
signs is one of the budget brews. I
[27:39]
think we're going to do that.
>> Okay. I think it just helps even having
[27:42]
them painted on there. It really does.
So,
[27:46]
um but that was all I had.
>> Nothing here.
[27:51]
» Alice. [clears throat]
>> Other than sports and 11, which we've
[27:53]
already talked about that, so nothing
else.
[27:57]
» I need to add a couple things. Um
I was just wondering how we're doing on
[28:01]
uh
working
[28:03]
forward to uh getting our bathrooms back
in service.
[28:07]
And we've got uh
Do we have here our own pieces and
[28:10]
orange? Do we still [clears throat] have
the one down at the skate park open or
[28:13]
did they flood it again?
[28:16]
» I'm not sure about the skate park and
I'll
[28:20]
um
We can talk offline uh but we had some
[28:25]
problems with our plumber that was
working on the project.
[28:28]
Um so, there's going to be a delay.
Um
[28:32]
the valves that were brand new this year
broke again, so that's why River's Edge
[28:37]
is down and so we're trying to come up
with a
[28:39]
new plumbing solution different
technology. But that's we've spent
[28:45]
significant amount of money in last
couple of years, uh holding those
[28:50]
highly custom valves that cost about I
think it's like $556 an hour. But, we do
[28:56]
have a delay right now
on the issue.
[28:59]
» Um also, uh
skate park antics. That's what I have.
[29:05]
And uh the reason we talked about the
problems down at the skate park,
[29:10]
it became very personal to me.
Well, my grandson, who's 11 years old,
[29:15]
and we're staying at the Albany, and mom
came back from her meeting. She's a
[29:19]
school teacher in Mechanicsville.
And he'd been looking forward to going
[29:22]
to the skate park all day. When she
happened to live down there,
[29:26]
so [clears throat] they went to the
skate park where he went and he had his
[29:29]
uh skateboard. And there was a group of
I don't know what do you call them,
[29:33]
juvenile delinquents or whatever,
that their language is so filthy and
[29:38]
dirty
that
[29:40]
uh it uh [clears throat]
made them uncomfortable. Also, they were
[29:44]
into marijuana and alcohol, uh smoking
whatever they smoke.
[29:48]
So, um upon getting in touch with me,
uh I told her to call 911 and let them
[29:56]
know.
Um
[29:58]
but she said as soon as the
uh hoodlums saw her on her phone, he
[30:02]
just got up, cussed her out, went and
jumped on top of the dugouts.
[30:07]
So, I I guess we've talked about this
before, but I think it's time we do
[30:11]
something. I don't know what it is.
I mean, I'm ready to go down there and
[30:16]
and uh stand guard. I mean, it's at this
point that why do we have all this money
[30:21]
putting here? It's supposed to be for
the good of the community. If we can't
[30:24]
keep the bathrooms from being flooded by
the same group. I know it's the same
[30:28]
group. The chief has said it's the same
group. What can we do about stopping
[30:33]
this and letting the park become
enjoyable and useful to all the people
[30:39]
of Cohoes? I mean, what do we do? I I
don't know. I am I'm at a loss, but
[30:45]
something needs to be done. I realize if
you put a police officer down there, he
[30:49]
comes in in his car, everybody are
little angels. I totally understand
[30:53]
that.
But somehow we have to get to the
[30:56]
parents or something in this group
and we need to get it squared away where
[31:00]
they're not going to be allowed in that
park
[31:03]
uh if that's if they're
antics they're doing down
[31:07]
And again, I knew it was a problem. I've
done it multiple times. But when it gets
[31:12]
personal, when it's your your daughter
and your grandson down there, they can't
[31:17]
they can't enjoy the park after they've
been looking forward to it until they
[31:20]
actually can.
I would I would request that we uh
[31:24]
come up with something uh for the next
meeting uh some sort of a plan that uh
[31:30]
we're moving forward with to uh
reduce that an issue at that particular
[31:35]
» Could I add to that, Mr.
>> Pardon?
[31:38]
» Could I add to that?
>> You're first.
[31:41]
» I'll tell you what, Dad, something to
that.
[31:43]
» Absolutely.
>> Uh it it it started also in baseball
[31:47]
season.
My kids were affected cuz they were
[31:50]
playing baseball.
Uh
[31:52]
but I'm I'm almost guessing that it's
the same group, Chief. I may be wrong.
[31:58]
But somehow they've got to have a way to
handle those kids out of there if that's
[32:01]
the same group. Uh they have no respect
for for grown-ups whatsoever.
[32:06]
I call the police, they they come down,
handle great.
[32:09]
But somehow we got to tag these kids and
and their parents. And
[32:14]
I I
I know there's no easy solution, but but
[32:17]
it is a [clears throat] problem.
>> Absolutely.
[32:20]
Um
the the other thing I had
[32:23]
uh was uh
kind of a report. I used to I used to
[32:27]
live in that apartment a lot.
And man, it looks really good last week.
[32:31]
Once the uh parks department quit
getting overwhelmed, cuz they were we're
[32:35]
all the random along. Yeah, they were
really good down there.
[32:38]
The park looks good. I don't I don't see
a whole lot of extra dog with laying
[32:42]
around.
I think people and I, there's still the
[32:45]
issue of people with their dogs off
leash.
[32:49]
I'm not
absolutely against that as long as
[32:53]
they're on voice control.
But, we go down there and you have a big
[32:56]
dog come charging up at you and you're
whether it's his new or your dog, I I
[33:02]
think that
they need to be reminded of that. I did
[33:05]
remind him and gentleman, he wasn't very
happy.
[33:07]
But, so that comes back to giving our
signs of making sure that everybody
[33:12]
[clears throat] understands.
I mean, we've got a whole bunch of
[33:16]
signs. I understand it would be a big
but our signs is still important.
[33:21]
That's all That's all I have.
>> Um,
[33:24]
can I make a comment in regards to that?
Um,
[33:27]
you know, back in the day we used to
have a a crime stoppers like somebody
[33:32]
could call in and report if they saw
something.
[33:35]
Um, after one of the meetings and the
vandalism that was happening after
[33:39]
council, I drove down there and there
was a whole bunch of kids at the skate
[33:43]
park.
I just sat there for a little while and
[33:47]
then I just walked out and talked to a
couple of kids and they say there's
[33:51]
really just three or four that bully
them that
[33:55]
fist fight like hit them in the head. He
showed me a video of another kid getting
[34:00]
hit in the head with a skateboard.
And it's just really
[34:04]
few that maybe if we had a
a tip line or a reward or something that
[34:10]
these kids could call without being the
narc. Um,
[34:15]
that we could maybe try to keep the
majority safe.
[34:18]
Um,
some kind of a crime stopper idea.
[34:23]
Uh, just throwing it out there because
it's small few that are ruining it for
[34:28]
everyone. And if they felt safe in
reporting it, that it wouldn't be
[34:33]
retaliated. You might get
assistance from some of those kids. So.
[34:39]
» I would I would also ask that uh
it be put out on social media or
[34:43]
whatever. So that the parents are aware
of where your kids are.
[34:47]
What are they doing?
>> It's 10:00.
[34:49]
» We know we've got these problems.
They're ruining They're ruining uh the
[34:53]
experience for all the good kids that
that want to use this facility. And then
[34:58]
parents need to step up and parents know
someone
[35:02]
they know these kids. They need to You
need to get in touch with our
[35:06]
police department and let them know. So
as far as what we can do to help, I
[35:09]
don't know what you do, but
Mark with the red accent sitting there.
[35:16]
» You need to say something.
You know, I haven't really said
[35:18]
anything. That's I would like to hear
something from on the next meeting
[35:22]
scheduled of what we're doing about
them.
[35:24]
» Okay.
>> Um anything else, Council?
[35:30]
» All right. City Manager report.
>> Yeah, so we'll just stay on that topic
[35:34]
for a little bit longer.
Our skate park is closed.
[35:38]
» Um
>> Um Jean and I talked about that this
[35:41]
morning. She has She's starting to work
with some draft language and Chief has
[35:45]
been She's been coming out of work for
like
[35:47]
for the last 6 months. So the intent was
to do some kind of policy once we had a
[35:52]
city attorney in line.
Um and we'll work through that and what
[35:56]
that means.
We can have a better discussion.
[36:00]
» Um
>> Next council meeting unless Chief wants
[36:03]
to share a little bit.
Actually, I'll ask Chief to share some
[36:06]
his views on during this time of how he
goes and stuff that we've talked about
[36:11]
this and some good some good options.
And then then later on the attorney can
[36:16]
tell us we can't do that. But anyway,
um
[36:19]
Um I think everything's going to be fine
and we'll be
[36:23]
So uh
we finished a successful the season. I'm
[36:27]
still not where exactly where we want to
be, but it's a lot better than it was
[36:31]
the year before and
and we're making progress. Had a lot of
[36:34]
good community feedback.
Had a good season.
[36:39]
We will continue to look for ways to
be more inclusive of different
[36:44]
opportunities.
[36:48]
Various requests from the community.
This year we we went through the whole
[36:52]
pool season with our pool manager
managing the schedule. I don't think
[36:56]
there was any overtime spent at all
because of the the level of oversight
[37:02]
and management which saves us money so
we can use that money for other causes
[37:06]
at the pool. So
that was very successful and
[37:10]
Amy did a
great job and we put money back in that
[37:14]
year.
[37:16]
With that there's going to be a lot of
Pine with Park projects over the next 6
[37:20]
months with the fitness court. That
fitness court will be blue and adhesive
[37:26]
on the
on the surface. It will be
[37:30]
It's temperature
sensitive. So I think we're going to
[37:34]
shoot for the spring instead of trying
to rush it this late September or
[37:38]
October. We'll [clears throat] probably
get the pad concrete laid when we do
[37:43]
some other parking lot improvements and
the sidewalks in there.
[37:47]
But that fitness court should be
available in the spring time as well as
[37:50]
the basketball court that we do.
But and then
[37:55]
we're working with the engineers now on
the design to expand the parking lot.
[38:00]
Hopefully
you know, 30 40 more vehicles.
[38:04]
We we will also be expanding the trail
along 11th Street
[38:09]
as well as putting in parking all along
there. People are already parking in the
[38:12]
grass there so we'll do some angle
parking in that area and now it
[38:16]
hopefully expanded but it also helps
with Mary Kate events cuz the the walk
[38:20]
from Pine with to Mary Kate is not that
bad and that would help.
[38:25]
Um
you know, continue to connect
[38:28]
our parks as well as our hiking trails
and you know,
[38:31]
sidewalks so that's
Um Eric White, you there? I just have a
[38:35]
quick question.
Got a Mary Kay play with a uh
[38:39]
um the Chambers building is there. Who
owns that property? Is that city
[38:43]
property? That's city property.
So it's good that we're using them for
[38:47]
parking.
Right.
[38:50]
Um
yeah, I'm not sure exactly how that
[38:54]
whole lease thing works or which park is
Anyway, it's all city property that the
[38:59]
Chamber and we have a good relationship
with the Chamber so it's not a big
[39:02]
problem.
Um
[39:08]
the um
So with Gateway Glacier safety mobility,
[39:11]
I'm not sure exactly where I need to
catch the address
[39:14]
what level of impact I have had a
conversation that you all saw where he's
[39:18]
referencing. Um the project
from most people I've talked to that
[39:24]
were in the construction area
um and uh the feedback we're getting is
[39:29]
generally positive. I mean the only
negative comments in the last couple
[39:32]
weeks have, you know, this idea that
Worth Avenue is too narrow.
[39:37]
Um just a reminder um I think I briefed
you before but FHWA standards for a 35
[39:43]
mph zone road is 10 to 12 ft. Our roads
will be 11 ft. Um right in the middle of
[39:49]
that so it could have been narrower by 2
ft total um but those things are
[39:54]
intentional there to slow down traffic.
And especially now that we're in a
[39:59]
construction zone, they should
definitely be slower um but
[40:02]
um
and then along Fourth in front of the
[40:07]
elementary school, uh the second layer
of asphalt has been put down today
[40:12]
um and then the concrete companies will
uh will be uh filling in the driveways,
[40:18]
sidewalks so we have a steady path
that the kids can use to get to school.
[40:23]
Um, and then
that should open up towards um,
[40:28]
the Kids Foundation area. So, sidewalks
as well uh, should be finished before
[40:33]
school [clears throat] starts.
Um, once they get out
[40:36]
uh, everything in front of Gateway
Gateway Gateway Gateway Elementary
[40:40]
School,
then they'll start moving towards uh,
[40:44]
9th Street uh, along 4th with the
curbing. Once the curbing's up, then
[40:48]
they can do final grading and then
asphalt. That'll go pretty quickly. And
[40:52]
we're expecting 4th South um, in 2 weeks
to start asphalting that. So,
[40:59]
uh, I would expect so well.
And then [clears throat] go on to 7th
[41:02]
after that. So, uh, there's still a
couple drainage things on 7th that you
[41:07]
know, we worked but other than that it's
all road and surface work. So, they'll
[41:11]
finish
from the elementary school moving from
[41:14]
4th to 9th.
Uh,
[41:16]
um,
and then finish that and then go south
[41:20]
of 9th Street. Uh, finish that and then
over to 7th. Uh, overall they're about a
[41:25]
month ahead of schedule uh, and they
continue to perform very well. And uh, I
[41:30]
think
things will be good when it's done. But
[41:34]
it is a lot of work, it's a lot of
impact but the community's been very
[41:38]
uh, flexible with us and uh, it's been
good conversations over the last 6
[41:42]
months of this project. So,
Any questions on the project on
[41:48]
specific?
>> You know, it's 9 days till school
[41:51]
starts.
>> Right.
[41:52]
» Okay.
>> Why?
[41:54]
» I'm just curious cuz
>> It's a lot of work.
[41:56]
» Yeah, a lot of work in that area that
will have lots and lots of vehicles. So,
[42:00]
» No, it's um,
yeah, there's Kids Foundation
[42:05]
uh, so it's at 5th
Street or yeah, so
[42:08]
» 5th
>> 3rd Street to 5th Street will be paved.
[42:11]
I think they're even going to have the
um, traffic lights payment on it. Um
[42:16]
sidewalks will be done in that area. Um
and then the school buses will be able
[42:21]
to come out and come in [clears throat]
along Fifth Street entrance to the
[42:25]
elementary school.
Um landscaping may be done in
[42:28]
you know, they're they're getting close.
They can put some topsoil in already to
[42:33]
help fill the edges of the
asphalt trail system, but that has to
[42:39]
happen during school. It's similar in
that compared to
[42:43]
um elsewhere.
>> All right. Thank
[42:48]
» Um and then finally um
the legal assistant position where where
[42:54]
that's currently being advertised till
the end of the month. Um and then I
[42:59]
won't steal Jean's thunder, but uh
she'll share when she gets here, but
[43:03]
we'll be able to do the in-person
interviews so we believe and it should
[43:06]
work out
um for that as well. We've got a couple
[43:08]
of good candidates already. Still
looking for more as we can hurry up and
[43:12]
set up interviews.
[43:16]
Well, that's it for me.
>> Um
[43:18]
Council?
>> You have anything for the manager?
[43:25]
» You're all done?
>> Seems Seems
[43:29]
Start with parks.
>> The skate park.
[43:32]
» Um
obviously this isn't the first time that
[43:36]
these issues have been brought up and
we've been working on them. Um one of
[43:40]
the things that
we found effective in other
[43:44]
jurisdictions is a a proper way to
exclude people from parks for a certain
[43:50]
period of time. Of course, when you
exclude people from
[43:53]
uh public property, it comes with some
some issues and and some procedures that
[43:58]
we have to properly do them. So, I've
drafted up what I thought would be some
[44:03]
uh good processes for this and I've
spoken to the city manager about it, and
[44:09]
also with
our the city attorney about it. I
[44:13]
forwarded those to her further, and
we're going to work on a
[44:18]
an ordinance
to present to you
[44:22]
to be able to exclude people from the
city parks for a certain amount of time,
[44:28]
whether it be 30, 60, 90 days
progressively if there's continual
[44:32]
violations for park rule violations for
rule violations, those things that take
[44:37]
place in parks. And
there'll be a a process for appeal on
[44:42]
that if they want to.
So, but
[44:46]
I don't want to get too much more into
the details until the city attorney has
[44:50]
had the opportunity to go through it and
modify it, make sure it's legal, we're
[44:57]
not going to get sued over any of that,
and that
[45:01]
we'll
administer it properly.
[45:04]
So, that's that's one of the ideas.
Another one is that
[45:10]
we've also looked at the option of
cameras.
[45:13]
We know some cameras in parks.
That's
[45:16]
you know,
there's some positives and negatives
[45:19]
that go along with that,
but it's also another option if we can't
[45:24]
get a handle on it. I think I would
agree with you that it is a few people
[45:28]
ruining it for the vast majority.
We have had contact with some of who we
[45:34]
believe some of those people are and
their parents
[45:38]
after speaking with their parents, it's
very obvious why the kids are behaving
[45:42]
that way. So,
so
[45:44]
I can say that confidently.
>> I do have a question. Um
[45:48]
if they're juveniles
can they be charged?
[45:51]
» Yeah, they can be charged with crimes.
>> So, if if they were down there and they
[45:55]
were they could they be
disturbing the peace or vandalism?
[46:01]
Or charges could actually be against
them and they'd have to go to juvenile
[46:04]
court, but
possibly that might get their attention,
[46:08]
too.
Well, I know realizing it'd have to be
[46:11]
seen, witnessed, and everything else,
but
[46:14]
if we could get a couple of these guys
that's been obviously known or whatever,
[46:18]
and get them charged in juvenile court,
it'd probably
[46:22]
straighten them up a little bit.
>> Yeah, they
[46:25]
The officers are all well aware of this
issue. We've discussed it at length. Um,
[46:31]
and uh
believe me, if there's an opportunity
[46:34]
for enforcement action to be taken, it
will be taken.
[46:39]
» [clears throat]
[46:42]
» Sergeant, got anything for us?
>> Uh, not a whole lot. As you guys saw
[46:46]
last year, we came off our
uh 5 for our busiest month ever, 65
[46:49]
calls last month.
Hasn't really slowed down too much this
[46:52]
month.
Um, Chance did the last meeting we had,
[46:56]
so we're now we have safety.
Two people on our waiting list again, so
[47:01]
applications are right out, and it's
slowed down.
[47:04]
» We got a couple in the long term.
>> Did Did we have any uh
[47:09]
well, fire calls and whatever in the
last I know it's going on here and it's
[47:13]
going everywhere else, I'm just curious
if
[47:15]
» Yeah, [clears throat] we we had a few
um, in our district, one in city limits,
[47:20]
right by Master Tech Repair.
Um
[47:23]
and then we had a couple in the rural
jurisdiction, and then we actually spent
[47:26]
one day on a scale fire doing structure
connections, too.
[47:30]
Casey's. So, we had it on on the go.
I think so. Five, maybe, somewhere
[47:35]
around there. Nothing big. We had one
You guys last month, too, the one
[47:41]
in the fire service area, trouble with
Hasty Basin area, but we were able to
[47:46]
shut that one down.
And if I had to pick any one that would
[47:50]
have to be that half week period. We had
helicopters and everything on that one,
[47:52]
so
>> That's good.
[47:53]
» It's kind of busy here.
>> Right.
[47:57]
Thank you.
>> Yeah.
[47:58]
» [clears throat and cough]
>> Uh anything from
[48:01]
the council?
>> What about city
[48:03]
» I was going to get to the
attorney if you don't mind.
[48:05]
» Oh, I'm sorry.
>> Do you have anything for us, Jean, for
[48:09]
this evening?
>> Well, just that I hope to be with you in
[48:13]
person permanently the first week of
September. We will be traveling up.
[48:18]
» Thanks.
>> All right. The weather's looking a lot
[48:20]
better for you guys.
>> I It's the weather between here and
[48:24]
there that I'm concerned about. So many
uh so many bad weather incidents in the
[48:28]
middle of the country we've got to cross
through. So it may be a little bit
[48:31]
longer drive than we anticipated, but
excited that our movers come on the 28th
[48:36]
and we will be out of here on the 29th
and headed that way. So I look forward
[48:41]
to our next city council meeting being
there in person.
[48:45]
» Thank you. Look forward to seeing you in
person.
[48:49]
Any Any final remarks from the council?
Seeing none, may I have a motion?
[48:55]
» Motion to adjourn.
>> Second. [clears throat]
[48:58]
» Motion to remain adjourned. Do I hear a
motion in favor?
[49:01]
» I have a question.
[49:04]
That is the afternoon.