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Well, good evening, and I'd like to call the order our Monday, October 6, 2025, regular Columbia City Council meeting.

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I invite all those who are able to please rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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This

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is the flag of the United States of America, and this is the Republic for which it stands.

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One nation under God, in a divisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Sheila, will you please call roll?

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Ms. Buffalo, here, Ms. Carol, here, Ms. Elwood, here, Ms. Sample, here.

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Mr. Foster, here. Mr. Waterman, Ms. Peters.

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Well, thank you for joining us this evening.

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This is our first Columbia City Council meeting, since the events of the weekend of home

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coming from Mizu. So I'd like for all to please join me in a moment of silence and

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remember, instead of Ion and Williams and her bright light.

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Thank you.

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Well, the public have multiple opportunities to engage and speak at Columbia City Council meetings.

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You can option during public hearing, old business, new business, and at the end of the meeting.

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I do ask people to combine the remarks to the legislation being discussed if it's part of our normal council meeting.

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If you're an individual commenting, you'll get three minutes.

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If you're an organization that's affected by the legislation being discussed, you can request five minutes.

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I do ask that you help me acknowledge that so that our fellows can change the shot clock there.

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That'll tell you your timer left for that.

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I do ask also that people be respectful of both the time limits and one another.

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We don't always have to agree on everything but we will respect each other as individuals and humans and neighbors.

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Demonstrations that might intimidate your neighbors from speaking are not allowed at council meetings.

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I want people to address issues not individuals and refrain from personal attacks including on city staff.

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If there are disrupt disruptions, they'll be addressed with a warning in if necessary removal and recess.

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I'll you'll bring the gavel if that were to happen.

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All right, so moving forward on our agenda, up first, I'll make a motion to approve the September 15th,

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2025 meeting minutes. Do I have a second? Second by Betsy Peters, all those in favor say aye.

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Aye. Any opposed? All right, next up for our agenda. Does anyone have any changes to the agenda?

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Seeing none, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda as posted. Do we have a second?

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Second by Betsy again, all those in favor say aye. Aye.

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And then next, as mayor, I'm going to do a point of personal privilege.

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I'd like to invite police chief Shlutey forward to discuss the recent shooting down town

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and what efforts have been done already for improved safety and future actions expected.

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Thank you, Chief.

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Good evening.

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So I'm going to go over quite a bit of information.

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I'll try to make it as much in chronological orders I possibly can.

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So,

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as far as downtown, and I'm going to repeat myself probably a little bit, but that's okay,

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we actually started pulling data points for what was going on downtown earlier this summer.

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So we recognized we had some issues with increased violence, specifically gun violence in

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the downtown area.

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And we tracked those incidents and kind of that culminated into looking at what's going on

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primarily after barclos of the 11 incidents we recognized the vast majority of those were

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after barclosing time. We'd had a kind of a hotspot in the Broadway and 9th and 10th area

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that shifted over into the A-Harblock of Walnut Street. So June 8th, we started in earnest putting

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more officers downtown in response to this. And we really tried to focus them on not only dealing

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with obviously big things calls for service that normally come out like fights and disturbances,

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but also trying to start doing lower level enforcement so that we can really kind of

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set the tone for what kind of behavior we should be having downtown.

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So, we've been tracking enforcement actions, we've had well over 300.

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Since June 8th, between Friday and Saturday 9pm to 4am. July 1st was kind of another watermark in this and that we had some more folks get out of training and we were able to add additional eight officers to our overnight efforts.

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It's not really helped our capacity to have more people down town during these key times when we needed to have more presence.

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So that really increased patrol staffing by about 12% just in June, and then it was a 20% increase from the prior year.

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So we'd really, 20% a lot more officers on the street, obviously during that time.

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Citywide total crime data right now, as we sit here and if you're not familiar with the, we have a new data dashboard.

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It's Google, Columbia Police Transparency.

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There's a link that will take you right to it.

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Our crime stats are on there.

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They get updated every day, based on what we upload

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into the system as reports get done.

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So that's a great place for you to go and get accurate crime

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data.

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It's really important that you go to us as the source.

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And I even say that over the highway patrol website,

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because they only update their data every 30 days

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where we do it every 24 hours.

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So right now, total crime is up about 14.7%.

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So what's total crime?

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So that's crimes against persons.

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It's crimes property crimes, crimes against property,

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and crimes against society.

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And breaking those down a little bit further

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for the last 365 days.

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So from this day, 365 days backwards,

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crimes against persons are up 7%.

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So that's almost exclusively driven by assault.

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So assaults are the most common crimes against persons

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that we investigate, and that can run the gambit.

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First degree assault is somebody getting shot or stabbed.

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then you have clear down to like a fourth degree assault where it's just a threat.

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So that is a huge group of offenses as an assault.

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Crimes against property or down 13.6%

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and crimes against society are up 37.2%, which might ask yourself like,

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I did. Why is that? Well, crimes against society includes things like drug use and possession,

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trespassing weapons offenses where there's no victim. So if someone's just in possession of a weapon

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legally, liquor law violations, things of that nature.

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The lion's share of those types of crimes are driven by proactive police work.

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So I believe at this point the reason that category is so significantly higher over

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last year is because we have more officers on the street which allows us to do more proactive

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policing.

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So we're encountering these types of offends of more finding more guns, drugs, being able

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enforce some lower-level crimes that fall under this category as well.

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So moving down on from that,

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comparing the two-month period of July and August of 2024 to

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2025, arrests are up 31%.

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And next to that, we have also reduced our response time for calls for service by about 20%.

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So that's a really big improvement, and that's all driven by increased capacity.

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Then I'm going to move on from kind of how I'll just start it back in June.

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To downtown staffing and how generally I get lots of questions about how many officers are where when that's a real moving target.

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Generally on a shift right now, we have about 16 officers assigned to a shift, they're spread out between beats and sectors, but we pull more resources into the downtown district overnight, obviously on busier nights because we just need more presence down there. There's a lot more people down there.

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So it's pretty common for supervisors to get on the radio and say, hey, guess what, it's that time again, everybody come downtown, we got a managed bar close and everything that's going on.

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We've been working with other departments prior to, so I think some of you know this, but I came down and worked the night after the MUKU game, and had made a lot of observations about a variety of things, honestly, the number and volume of people downtown, not only for the game, but long after the bars closed.

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And it got me thinking about a lot of things I don't normally have to think about like food

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trucks and parking and where we pick up people for ride share and all of these things

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were kind of contributing to areas where we have pinch points with foot traffic and car

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traffic and lighting and a lot of other variety of things that really just made me think

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it was time to look at downtown overall and say hey let's look at this holistically and

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try to figure out where we can improve all of these different things with an overall view

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just safety in general. Obviously those things then play into larger offenses as like when we

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have fights or we have shootings.

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To that end, public works in the Health Department have been a great asset helping us try to parse through some of our parking and traffic issues.

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And then Rebecca Roslett and her team came down this last weekend.

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Dissemitication with our food vendors and make sure they're supposed to be, and we're not doing things like playing music from food trucks.

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And other things that kind of contribute to this atmosphere that I think was drawing people into stay downtown long after hours kind of have street parties.

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When we had the incident on homecoming weekend, post that, we had, I began conversations

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obviously in earnest with MUPD and Boone County as well as the Highway Patrol about coming

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into office and extra assistance.

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They were very open to that, and we had 27 extra folks downtown this weekend, both nights,

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to help that showed in the stats that we put out today, but one of the things I said in the

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media that I think got a lot of attention was not being able to really in earnest and wholly

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staff at downtown unit until next May. A lot of that has to do with the fact that currently,

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so people are going to, I can get really down the weeds here, but since the budget got adopted,

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that changed our numbers a little bit, so now we have some more positions added in and some

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got moved around. So we have 12 officer vacancies in this sergeant vacancy right now but that's

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because we got some positions added and moves some things around at the airport.

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We have seven

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officers in field training right now. We have 16 officers that currently in the academy. So that

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makes it feel like more vacancies than they really are because they're not out functioning yet. So

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that's why I said, May because that's when all those folks will presumably be out of training

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our goal is to reconstitute what we all used to know as the downtown unit.

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In the interim, we talked about what are the stop gaps we can try to fill in in between there.

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So we actually pulled one of our patrol sergeants from night shift.

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He's been assigned to really coordinate all of our downtown efforts.

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And that includes staffing, having extra people there, looking at all the different things I talked to him about.

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I get a lot of questions about the downtown whites.

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We do have those programs and can control those now.

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There is a city ordinance that governs when the lights are going to be at certain levels that we have to abide by.

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And so we have them program now to come on to their highest setting.

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I think they told me at 1230 those get turned up and then they stay that way until after bar close.

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So they're on a timer that goes on every day.

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And my observation being downtown is they're very helpful.

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It does illuminate a lot of the darker areas of the streets and sidewalks.

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This weekend there were a lot of great outcomes from this weekend.

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We did a lot of enforcement action and I will tell you not only myself but two of my assistant chiefs worked downtown over the weekend.

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And the remark that they made to me after the first night was they were absolutely shocked by the number of firearms that were being legally carried downtown.

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On Friday night alone we located in a return firearms to approximately 20 individuals who were stopped by police and did not appear to be patronizing any businesses downtown.

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I'm going to read a little bit from the press release we just put out prior to the meeting starting because I think this is really important for people to know.

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This is a couple examples of what we're finding downtown.

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So on October 3rd, one of our street crimes unit detectives conducted a traffic stop at

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cherry and eighth street for vehicle failing to display two license plates.

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Front seat passenger in the vehicle was identified as Damian hunt 32 of Columbia, during

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the stop of semi-automatic rifle was observed wrapped in a jacket between his feet.

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Hunt is a convicted felon who is prohibited from possessing firearms, the detective arrested

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on charges of unlawful possession of a firearm, arm criminal action, and tampering with physical

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evidence and a felony prosecution.

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Hunt was involved in a shooting downtown in Columbia in 2019 in which he was arrested

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on original charges of first degree assault, unlawful use of a weapon in arm criminal action.

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These charges were reduced to a conviction of second degree assault, and Hunt was sentenced

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to seven years in the Missouri Department of Corrections that was set to begin on September

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28th of 2020.

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So that's one example of many I can tell you, when I started, when out in the car Saturday night the very first traffic stop we pulled up on the two officers were pulling people out of the car and they were making a gun safe that they had found in the car.

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So the number of weapons downtown that are being legally carried is an issue.

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It's also an issue from the sense that officers are aware of this and that makes every single interaction.

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Section, a height and sense of, they have to have a height and sense of awareness and obviously concern

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because there are so many people armed downtown. Over the two day enforcement effort, we did

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two hundred and two traffic stops. 83 check subjects. We wrote 57 citations. We made 27 custodial

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arrests, search 19 vehicles, 49 people, frist 17 people, and there were 39 non-criminal citations.

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So there's just things like parking tickets.

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This has been a group effort.

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I'm so appreciative of our law enforcement partners that have been willing to help.

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I think, you know, we have spoken about some of the things we'd like to see changed

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in Jefferson City concerning some of the gun issues.

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My staff and I met this morning and talked more in depth about that.

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And besides the fact that there's nothing currently prohibiting a juvenile

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from possessing a gun, there's also this issue of being able, anyone can conceal a weapon as

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long as they're legally allowed to be in possession of one. That just has created this

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extra barrier for us. And I'm by no means before all the people start posting on social media

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that I'm anti-second amendment. That is not true at all. I just think there's some common sense

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things that we could do here that would make our job a lot easier and any and everyone being able

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to conceal with gun is highly problematic for us. So if there's anything I didn't cover,

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I'm happy to answer questions. Well, I think we'll try to save some for the end on this

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to her. I don't know if there's anything else that you would want to add to this update.

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No, I think it's one of the questions that we've had as no, no, what resources have the city

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allocated toward public safety.

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And so it's one of the things when we look at our budget,

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we look at our priorities,

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and the public safety is one of our top priorities.

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And we've been able to make move mountains

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in the last couple of years,

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actually hire police officers for a long time,

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we can hire anybody.

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And we had more of a exitist than we had

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in people coming on board.

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And to be able to say that within two years,

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we've been able to hire 50.

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You know, that's phenomenal in most cities, that's a celebration.

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We've also started an office to help address some of the community and social issues around community violence.

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So we can really understand the root cause and we can be better prepared to address those things.

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Our goal is always to make sure that we have a safe community.

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Our goal is to make sure that people in Columbia can walk and feel safe from the things that we do.

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And so those are the actions that we've been trying to take for the last couple of years.

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And it takes us a while to kind of turn this boat around.

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I do see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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It is going to take a lot of work.

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No, it's not just staff.

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It's also the community.

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It's all us working hand-in-hand to be successful.

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Those are the things I would like to say.

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I appreciate that.

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I appreciate Lumi.

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I'm happy to be at the beginning.

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Most of you won't stay till the end.

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So I wanted her to give her update at the beginning.

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So thank you, Chiefs.

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I appreciate you work really thankful for the brave men and women at CPD.

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So thank you for that and thank you to Carlin for her support.

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Thank you.

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Thank you all.

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Moving on to our special items, we have a few special items this evening.

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So first we have the presentation of our Capture Coimal Finalist.

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So these are the finalists for the fifth annual Capture Coimal Budget Contest.

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This contest began in 2021 for the fiscal year 22 budget document, and it's a goal of

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engaging our residents in the budget process while also showcasing the beauty of our community.

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So each year local photographers are invited to submit their work for consideration in the city's budget book.

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For the fiscal year 26 budget we had 48 outstanding photos of missions.

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And based on the artistic quality clarity and how well they highlight Columbia.

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12 photos advanced to public voting round on the city's Facebook page.

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And from their community members help to select the top three finalists.

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So when I call your name, I'm going to ask you to come up.

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You'll receive a framed copy of your photo and then we'll have Josh take a group photo of everybody.

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So I'm going to list everybody's name, and if you want,

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I'm going to list everyone's name, and then I'll come join you.

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So we've got Solta Na Afro, wait, let's see, I got this, Afro's Jay Anni.

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This photo, or in the top spot, with 133 votes.

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And it's the one that's featured on the front of our budget document.

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We've got Nathan Jesse.

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Nathan's vote received 96 votes, and it's highlighted inside the budget book.

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And then last but not least, Megan Montesignos, who is actually part of the budget staff,

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but where it is not rigged.

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She received 67 votes and also proudly featured in the document.

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So I want to ask everyone to please join me in thanking them for sharing their talent and creativity.

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All right, I think we have a new cover for next year, maybe? All right, I want to thank everyone who did participate in that.

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It's a way for our community to come together with what is really a boring budget process, sorry Matthew Lou, but thanks for everyone for participating.

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Next, we have two very special items on us, the swearing in of two new department directors.

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So I'd like to ask Clint Smith to please join Sheila and the City Manager at the podium for his oath.

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You can come on this way.

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And then move that microphone to see you.

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I Clint Smith.

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Do solemnly swear that I possess all qualifications for

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the Office of the Director of the Community Development Department.

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for the city of Columbia, Missouri, that I am not subject to any of the

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other just qualifications set forth in the charter of the city of Columbia that I

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will support the Constitution and laws of the United States and of the state of

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Missouri and the charter and the charter and the ordinances of the city of

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and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of my office. So help me got.

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Okay, congratulations and welcome to play.

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Next I would like to invite William

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Rata, the director of Housing and Neighborhood Services to come forward for his oath.

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I will him Rata.

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Do solemnly swear that I possess all qualifications for the Office of Director of the House of the Housing and Neighborhood Services Department, for the City of Columbia, Missouri, and I am not subject to any of the disqualifications, that Fourth of the Charter, the City of Columbia, the City of Columbia, that I will support the Constitution and Laws of the United States and Laws of the United States and the State of Missouri, and the Charter in

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in the charter and ordinances of the city of Columbia.

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And now, a faithfully discharge.

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The duties of my office.

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So, how many got

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it?

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Welcome, Bill.

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I think Dick Carlin is overjoyed

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to have all of his department directors,

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like staffs.

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I thank you for that.

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All right.

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So, members of a public can contact the city manager's office

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by noon the Wednesday before a city council meeting

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to schedule a public comment.

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So, schedule public comment cannot be on items that are on the same night's agenda.

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And I've note it's been a typical practice of City Council to ask for additional follow-up

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of questions asked to night of staff at the end of the meeting if it's warranted.

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So tonight we have two scheduled public comments.

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So I would first like to ask Matthew Shack to please come forward to speak.

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Hello, thank you.

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I do have a patient.

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It will, yeah, the magic happens and then you click on your PowerPoint.

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Should I make the magic happen?

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Yes, sorry.

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The magic is just that that came on.

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And then just do it like, yes, all the things.

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Perfect.

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Thank you.

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My name is Matthew Shackt.

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I live it 211 North and Street, apartment 101, right

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across from Stevens Lake Park.

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I'm here representing Midwest, which is Columbia's Community

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Media Center.

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We are the inheritor of community media.

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The original was Columbia Access Television, which

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founded in 2004. We have over 240 members with many more 100 supporters, donors, and volunteers.

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We've come here today just to introduce ourselves and if you are a Midwest member or supporter,

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could you please stand up right now?

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And if this is your first time to a city council meeting,

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can you raise your hand?

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We meet the first and third Mondays.

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So I could give you numbers, but I thought it would be more impactful if we were here in person.

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I want to be brief, I know I only have a little bit of your time, and I can't help but recognize the public safety circumstances that we find ourselves in, while I'm here asking for funding for community media.

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I'd like to point out that if people are shooting with cameras, they are not shooting with guns.

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And if we provide them a safe, accessible space to learn and grow and connect, they are not seeking that downtown with people who may not have their best interests in mind.

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So, if you had breakfast this morning, you might have had a beverage, perhaps it was coffee.

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A barista may have poured that coffee for you, a truck driver may have shipped it to the coffee shop,

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a warehouse owner may have stored it and prevented pests from eating it.

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There was a whole chain of collaboration and participation that brought that cup of coffee to you.

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So that one little good thing that major morning bright came from many, many, many people.

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I'd like you to

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look at your community in the same way. So here are some snapshots of things that have happened recently

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in your community. Let's ask how many people made this happen.

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There's a workshop, film workshop,

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run by Ragtag Cinema with gear provided by Midwest.

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There's a downtown music and arts festival

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and marketplace with AV equipment provided by Midwest.

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Here's a public candidate form,

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where you asked constituents to come and ask you questions

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with AV equipment provided by Midwest.

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Here are the next generation of professional photographers

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getting a resume building professional experience at Midwest.

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And look at their smiles.

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Here are members of your community celebrating the life of a citizen

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Separated in multiple states, a family of musicians performing together in real time for the ceremony with technical expertise and equipment provided by Midwest.

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And here are a couple of dozen film apprentices who are taking advantage of Missouri's new tax credit, which is bringing feature films and pilots to the state of Missouri for the first time in 10 years,

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getting that training so that they can serve on productions that will then be able to take advantage

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of that tax credit with space and facilities provided by Midwest.

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So you see a common factor in all of these is community media.

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Now, when I think of community media, these are the images that come to my mind because this

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is the less glamour inside.

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This is our studio when we got it.

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It was dusty.

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It was an auto part store.

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It had oil stains on the floor.

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The roof was leaking.

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The AV are the HVAC system did not work.

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These are our volunteers in the snow rescuing equipment from cat, which the city did not have a plan for.

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This is us taking that equipment along with donations and pieces from MU surplus and making a studio.

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And these are our numbers to date going from zero members to at this point 240, the numbers speak for themselves.

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And so you can imagine when we got this letter from the city in June that said that they were no longer interested in funding us,

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that we were quite surprised in that letter.

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It was said that there's no more funding for peg channels,

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which is the legacy cable channel that was originally

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the backbone of community media.

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And so we go into the budget and yet the funding mechanism

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for community media still exists.

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In 2024 it was over $300,000.

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2025 it was over $4,000 and $60,000.

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Thank you, man.

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I would just like to thank you for your time

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and we'll provide this PowerPoint to you so you can follow up with us. Thank you. Thank you.

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I would now like to ask Bonnie Steinmetz to please come forward to speak.

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Good evening. And I am

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speaking on behalf of the Como Renewal Project.

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I think to the right.

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Yep.

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You might need to go to the top because I think that might be your last slide. Oh Josh will help you.

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Okay, so this evening I am going to talk about money matters and so we are hearing that

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there will likely be an increase in sales tax, possibly property tax, parks and

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wreck fees, and parking meters. It is projected that expenditures will deplete reserves

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by FY27. And there was a quote in the Comobus about Mr. Seewood and Lou advising that operating

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expenses should not exceed operating revenues. It's unsustainable and that using cash reserves to

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Fund ongoing operations, will cause a tax increase or a need to cut expenses.

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So this is just a graph showing the increase in the number of employees within our city's government.

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And just to keep in mind that the new minimum wage bump also increased the expensive wages for many city employees.

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this is directly from comodot.gov documents. For example, salaries for part-time staff in parts

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and wreck increase $240,000 over all this year. And the next slide I'm going to show is that many

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salaries within the city government are over 90,000 a year. This was kind of a surprise to me as I

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looked through it and not saying that that isn't justified, but when you look at some of the

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expenditures for the city and the number of employees, then it kind of makes sense why expenses.

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This is part of the reason for the expenses increasing.

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So this is a little bit hard to see, but these are the different job titles and what those salaries are.

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Again, I'm just capturing those that were 90,000 or more.

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And so what I found were these were approximately 90 positions that are at that salary rate.

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And then we have an example of some expenditures, so on here health and human services you can see it starts out.

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I think it was in 20 and goes through 24.

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And so within that five years expenses increase 61% and from FY23 to FY24 expenses increased almost 33%.

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same type of graph you see for the city manager department but I will say for that one

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when you look in the notes and I didn't catch it right away. This department actually had IT services

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move in to the budget so you have to kind of look at the notes to be able to decipher what those

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expenses are.

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Public safety I thought this was interesting because we've spoken a lot about increased

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CPD positions, but when you look at the graph, they've actually been stagnant on what they've

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been able to fill over the last few years, so that really hasn't changed, hopefully that

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is turning around. The quote that you see there on the right-hand side is actually quotes from

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are to homeless outreach team officers,

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and this was in the Komo magazine.

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So what they're speaking of, one says,

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I cannot help someone who is not willing to help themselves,

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so they're speaking about their work

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with the chronically homeless.

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It is a vicious cycle,

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we're running into the same subjects over and over again.

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These individuals have tried

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to utilize them any services provided,

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but prefer to stay homeless because of independence.

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And then Todd says it's challenging every time you're dealing with someone who is homeless and they don't want help it continue to violate the law.

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That is the biggest challenge I've seen.

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There are some who will use every excuse not to use the resources or services.

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We have to offer them but continue to do the things we ask them not to do.

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So just keep this quote in mind and I will talk a little bit more about it.

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This is showing one of the line items of expenses training and travel, so for FY24 there was a

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significant increase in that line item. The prior year it had been $654,000, which was an increase

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year over year and then in FY24 it had increased to almost a million.

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So the question is, and I apologize

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this is a little hard to read, where these expenses necessary. So looking back, we spent a lot

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on a pedestrian safety survey. We had travel outside of Columbia and yet we have poverty in

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Columbia. So we have significantly more a higher rate of poverty compared to Missouri overall

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And, unfortunately, a lot of those are children.

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Thank you, Bonnie.

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Thank you very much.

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All right.

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Moving on to our public hearings.

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Sheila, will you please read public hearing 2925?

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Public hearing 2925 is a proposed construction of a sidewalk improvement project along the south side of West,

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Broadway, between Maple, Drive, and West Boulevard.

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Do we have a staff report?

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Yes.

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Good evening. My name is Shane Creach and I'm the Public Works Director. This project would construct approximately 2,100 feet of 5 foot wide concrete sidewalk along the south side of Broadway between maple wood drive and west boulevard.

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The project also includes a substantial amount of 1,000 feet of new carbon gutter and some stormwater inlet work.

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An interested party's meeting was held on July 14, 2025, 8 written comments were received and 14 citizens attended the meeting.

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The total project is estimated at $616,000.

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Motot will fund up to 80% of the project using tap grant funds.

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The city's capital improvement sales tax will fund the remainder.

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The construction of the project is anticipated beginning in the fall of 2026.

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Lee White assistant public or director is here with me tonight and we're happy to answer

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any questions you might have.

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Thank you, Shane.

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Do we have any questions from the council at this point?

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All right.

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In that case, we'll open the public area.

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Anyone wants to come and speak to this, please come to the podium.

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Madam Mayor, the members of the council and the mayor.

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phone a little closer to you. You move the microphone a little closer. Thank you. May I have five minutes.

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I'm sorry. You an organization affected by the legislation. I have two homes in the

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neighborhood. One on Maplewood and one on West Broadway. I think I'm more qualified than anyone

440
00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:50,440
you're going to find to speak. You can do the three and then they'll add two at the end. Go ahead.

441
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,420
Can you say your name and address please? My name is Mitchell Moore. I have 57 years experience

442
00:41:56,420 --> 00:42:03,200
residing in the neighborhood I reside at 12 10 West Broadway where I maintain a home office

443
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:09,040
for my law practice for the past 37 years. My wife and I also have a residence at 500

444
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Maplewood Drive in a house. My parents built 57 years ago. So I live between Maplewood Drive

445
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,740
and Hillside where Hillside Drive comes out on West Broadway and I can't imagine anyone

446
00:42:21,740 --> 00:42:24,460
We're familiar with the neighborhood and me.

447
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,940
I can tell you, this proposal's been rushed.

448
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:31,080
One meeting, July 4th, and middle of summer,

449
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,300
out is all get out.

450
00:42:35,580 --> 00:42:40,500
But the disappointing thing is, in the conversation

451
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,260
I've had both with the city engineer, Dr. Hussain,

452
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,700
and the engineering supervisor, Alice and Anderson,

453
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:47,880
they both told me the same thing

454
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,460
when I asked him about three foot wide sidewalks.

455
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:52,700
They said, well, the ADA, man, they's five.

456
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:53,720
That's not true.

457
00:42:54,740 --> 00:43:01,400
I finally hit the law books Friday and found out that the ADA

458
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,720
requires three-foot sidewalks.

459
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,360
And that's much more appropriate for this area,

460
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,320
because there's very little pedestrian traffic.

461
00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:14,840
There's some pedestrian traffic on the north side.

462
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:23,040
on the south side, it's almost non-existent, people can do walk on the grass and all that,

463
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:32,980
but the people on the south side probably live in our one and they go to work and rarely

464
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:42,920
have cause to go any further now, they do cross Broadway and they do need a crossing because

465
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:58,140
North is the arc, the farmer's market, and curves, but the thing that would be best would

466
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:04,520
be a combination of a three-foot wide sidewalk on the south side, and traffic lights at

467
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,860
the intersection of Pershing, Spring Valley, and West Broadway.

468
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:13,040
Spring Valley has only one output, and that is on West Broadway.

469
00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:19,040
Those folks have a hard time getting out of Spring Valley, and the pedestrians have a hard

470
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,420
time crossing Spring Valley.

471
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,960
I don't think a pedestrian study has been done.

472
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:32,580
I do know a traffic study was done some 20 years ago and found that there are 15,000 cars

473
00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:41,780
day on West, they go on West Broadway. It's not a walk in a park. It's more like a walk on a

474
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:50,820
racetrack. It's loud. It's noisy, it's dusty. I walked it many a time. And if you make five foot sidewalks

475
00:44:50,820 --> 00:44:56,760
in there, you're going to ruin the residential character of the neighborhood, which not the worst thing

476
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,580
For me, I've got a home office, if all those houses.

477
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,500
A few weeks ago, he asked me to decide to resound to some mixed use, office, commercial, whatever.

478
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:11,800
That's not the worst thing for me, but it is bad for the neighborhood.

479
00:45:12,940 --> 00:45:16,260
And I do care about the neighborhood. I really love that neighborhood.

480
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:19,040
That's why I've got two places there right now.

481
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:29,000
This project isn't ready. It didn't get vetted well by the residents who were told that three

482
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:38,640
three-foot sidewalks could not be had. Well, they can, and they should be, because the unique

483
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:44,620
nature of this road, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you all have.

484
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,280
Thank you, Mr. Moore.

485
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,020
Would anybody else from the public wish to speak on the proposed construction of the West

486
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:54,300
Broadway side-up from Maybewood to West?

487
00:45:59,580 --> 00:46:01,940
Are you going separately? Are you going to be reading together?

488
00:46:01,940 --> 00:46:03,520
We don't have anything to read.

489
00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:04,240
OK, go together.

490
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:05,980
We look like you get three minutes.

491
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:06,560
Let's go.

492
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:09,840
We are James and Annelis Bill.

493
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,820
We live at 1312 West Broadway, or you might

494
00:46:13,820 --> 00:46:16,240
know it as the big White House with police shutters.

495
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,720
We have one of the oldest houses in all of Columbia.

496
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,300
On that note, there's not already

497
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,160
just not a lot of space for us.

498
00:46:27,420 --> 00:46:30,140
We had a great experience with the city planners,

499
00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:32,800
with the engineer and charge of the project,

500
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:35,560
they did an awesome job trying to change things,

501
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,540
accommodate it to make it better for us.

502
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,600
But even at the end of that,

503
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,380
it's better than the original plan,

504
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:44,380
but just can't be better than what's there now.

505
00:46:45,540 --> 00:46:47,000
We have a very steep driveway,

506
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:50,380
so turning on and off of Broadway is already kind of a challenge

507
00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:52,140
if we add any more to that.

508
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:54,280
It just doesn't really work for us.

509
00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:57,440
We have a lot more she wanted to say.

510
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Yeah, I just, one of the big things is our front doors so close to the road because it was built so long ago.

511
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,640
And this project would require the city to buy two feet into everyone's yard sticks in the public easement.

512
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,100
And being, we're trying to be good stewards of this old house.

513
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,860
We don't know if that's in the house is best.

514
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,500
Interest to lose some of the land. It's just, it's really scary as new homeowners to hear about.

515
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:26,620
Some changes and losing some of our land,

516
00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:30,160
just because we're so close to the road,

517
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,720
I think, what our neighbor said about just a study.

518
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,680
If it was for, if it had such a great benefit to the community,

519
00:47:39,740 --> 00:47:42,980
I think we could deal with it a little bit more,

520
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,340
but right now the other side of the road

521
00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:46,980
makes more sense for people to walk on.

522
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:49,340
And we don't see very much foot traffic

523
00:47:49,340 --> 00:47:53,340
to justify the project that's going to be a pretty big

524
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:59,440
convenience for a lot of us who live on Broadway. So if there could be more of a study going

525
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:06,640
going on to figure out how many people would actually use this, that would be great because

526
00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:13,280
this will be big for us, just, it's really stressful buying a house a few months later,

527
00:48:13,380 --> 00:48:18,020
being like, oh, they went up on sidewalk. Oh, we only have so much room for parking and all this stuff.

528
00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:24,300
It's just be nice for a little bit more research to be done on the front end.

529
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:25,660
Thank you.

530
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,900
Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

531
00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:36,690
Hello, McKenzie Ortiz.

532
00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:38,350
I'm here with local motion tonight.

533
00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:41,410
201 West Broadway is our office.

534
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:44,630
I just wanted to say that we support this project.

535
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:47,450
We are often walking on West Broadway.

536
00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:51,430
And we think that anything that will connect people

537
00:48:52,410 --> 00:48:55,450
and increase accessibility as a win.

538
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:56,810
So, thank you.

539
00:48:57,150 --> 00:48:57,730
Thank you.

540
00:49:06,690 --> 00:49:09,910
Kathy Barretto, I live on two spring valley,

541
00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:11,370
which is on the corner of Broadway,

542
00:49:12,190 --> 00:49:15,730
and spring valley, my parents have owned that house since 1968.

543
00:49:16,590 --> 00:49:19,730
I lived in it a while and then moved

544
00:49:19,730 --> 00:49:22,410
and was gone from Columbia for 39 years

545
00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:24,770
came back to take care of my parents.

546
00:49:25,110 --> 00:49:27,730
And I agree with Mitch, Mitch,

547
00:49:27,730 --> 00:49:37,750
my next door neighbor and we don't see very many people walking up in our area and I think

548
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:47,470
there's a lot that can happen already when it's nose I get all the snow in my front yard

549
00:49:47,470 --> 00:49:54,050
and sometimes can't even get out of my neighborhood and I think if we could have more time

550
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:59,790
to really give it a good study, we would find out that possibly we could do it with less.

551
00:50:05,420 --> 00:50:05,860
I am

552
00:50:12,450 --> 00:50:36,570
a full-time pedestrian. I do not drive a car and I've been doing this for over 10 years, since I've lived in Colombia. The reason why you do not see people walking on Broadway is because it's not designed to. There are no visual buffers. It's very dangerous. I walk this great set night because it's actually kind of safe to do so. You do see people traveling a night because it's safer to walk on the road.

553
00:50:36,570 --> 00:50:37,490
do so.

554
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,920
There is a lot of concern. I think it is a very valid concern if your doorways getting

555
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,520
closer to the road and it looks dangerous so that we need to think about visual buffers

556
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,440
to make sure it's not so dangerous. I think this is something that's needed and people would

557
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,720
start using it, would start cycling, would start skating if it was made accessible. But of course

558
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:03,760
it's not a heavy traffic area, how could it be? It's very dangerous, overstimulating, not very safe.

559
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,180
So I just want to share them in and tell you that's why.

560
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,780
Thank you.

561
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:14,360
What anybody else from the public which just speak about the proposed construction of the West Broadway

562
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,520
sidewalk from Maybellwood Drive to West Boulevard.

563
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,840
See, none. I'll close the public hearing.

564
00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:26,770
Any staff? Okay. I got all of them. Okay. I'm sorry.

565
00:51:27,110 --> 00:51:27,570
Betsy.

566
00:51:29,620 --> 00:51:31,120
Thanks just because you looked to the left.

567
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,120
I did. I'll start tweeting this way.

568
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:38,020
Is there a sidewalk on the north side of this area of Broadway?

569
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:39,020
Yes, there is.

570
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:45,200
So there is already a sidewalk, I mean if you cross the street, is that ADA compliant or not, do you know?

571
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,720
In theory it should be whether it all is or not I couldn't speak to that.

572
00:51:53,360 --> 00:52:10,180
And then how close, I mean if we do with, was it a three foot buffer and then a five foot sidewalk that's eight feet out of people's front yards or what they perceive to be their front yard versus the road, how close does that get the sidewalk to people's homes?

573
00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:13,820
It's going to vary especially along Broadway.

574
00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:18,340
There's a lot of houses that sit back quite a bit from the road.

575
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,080
The folks that were up here, I think, I think,

576
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,700
1312, that house is significantly closer than the majority of them.

577
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,580
So it kind of varies.

578
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,940
We're talking West Boulevard West, the right,

579
00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:31,260
heading to clean scale.

580
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:35,380
So those road, those houses are much closer to the road

581
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:38,900
than the ones east of West Boulevard.

582
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:46,240
Right, generally yes, because then I guess the question is if someone were building a new house,

583
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,780
would we let them build it as close to the road as these houses are, I don't know that you've

584
00:52:52,780 --> 00:52:58,080
got an answer for that, because you're not planning a development in some cases, no, but

585
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,240
I don't, I don't know that there's something that's not something we had analyzed.

586
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:12,680
And then can you address the three foot wide ADA sidewalk because when I pulled it up on, you know, you old Google, it said three feet was enough for ADA.

587
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:25,720
So Mr. Moore's correct, the absolute minimum clear with of a continuous successful route is three feet and with however the city's minimum sidewalk with is five feet and with and it's been that way for quite some time.

588
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:34,760
When the sidewalk is required to be pushed up against the back of curb, we then increase that minimum with the six feet so it's to provide a buffer from the adjacent roadway.

589
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,460
So in this particular location there are utility poles.

590
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,860
So some of this has to do with, you know, dodging those.

591
00:53:42,940 --> 00:53:47,640
So that green space that we're talking about in part gets us away from those utility poles.

592
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:55,300
So if we push it up against the back of curb, I'm going to have to make that sidewalk wider where we've got utility poles.

593
00:53:55,300 --> 00:54:02,620
So it's just, I mean, the three-foot wide, I mean, if you have two feet or three feet,

594
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,920
whatever you need for your utilities and I totally understand what you're talking about, why is

595
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,780
a three-foot, why sidewalk not appropriate, I mean, do we have an ordinance saying it has to be

596
00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:19,480
five feet, or we, I mean, why, why the five-foot, why if that's more than the eight-foot, I could

597
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:29,560
One reason is that ADA requires a passing space, every 200 feet, so in a place of its less than 5 feet, we have to provide a 5 foot passing space.

598
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:34,560
Every 200 feet in the second thousand feet long, piece of sidewalk, right?

599
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:43,680
There are places where you could use the driveway for that, but that 5 foot by 5 foot area has to be 5 foot wide and 5 foot long.

600
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,440
So, you could have a passing space in the driveway, so I mean that's possible.

601
00:54:53,780 --> 00:54:59,960
I would tell you that the access board, the folks that the ADA goes through.

602
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Also talk about model sidewalks and they typically say a four foot minimum and a five foot width is recommended and that's what the city uses as a standard.

603
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:15,740
We do some four foot sidewalks at time. I can't tell you in my almost 18 years here where we ever built a three foot sidewalk.

604
00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:18,880
Doesn't mean you can't, just doesn't mean we haven't built it.

605
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,180
Okay, thank you.

606
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:22,660
All right, I've got Vera.

607
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:30,380
I was wondering a little more clarity on the ADA compliance of the sidewalk.

608
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,500
My understanding from both the access board and modot is that three feet is only allowed

609
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:42,800
when there is a geographic obstruction that would not allow construction of a wider sidewalk

610
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:50,340
that four feet is the minimum and five feet is the suggestion and then required every 200 feet.

611
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,120
I don't have the exact quote in front of me.

612
00:55:55,140 --> 00:56:01,020
I would tell you that the accessible path is listed as a minimum of 36 inches, those three feet.

613
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:07,660
But in there's areas where you can duck below that, but it's very small.

614
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:14,020
And so a three foot wide sidewalk would be difficult for, you know, two people to share the sidewalk obviously.

615
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:16,560
That's why they require the passing space.

616
00:56:22,110 --> 00:56:22,630
Valerie?

617
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:32,050
I was wondering if you could tell us a little bit about I guess the impact of this project,

618
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:40,330
how it was came forward, how it was ranked on the sidewalk master plan, what features were

619
00:56:40,330 --> 00:56:42,850
considered in its prioritization.

620
00:56:43,690 --> 00:56:47,750
Sure. This project is listed on the city sidewalk master plan.

621
00:56:50,050 --> 00:56:52,110
I can't speak necessarily

622
00:56:52,110 --> 00:56:58,070
the prioritization of that. What I would tell you is that we only have a finite amount of sidewalk money.

623
00:56:58,330 --> 00:57:04,590
So one of the things that we look at when it comes to sidewalk projects are things that we think we can get a

624
00:57:04,590 --> 00:57:09,810
mode on tap grant for. And this was a location that we felt like that was a strong possibility.

625
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:14,910
It was on the sidewalk master plans. We pursued it and were able to receive it.

626
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:18,970
It's not that we couldn't build the project without those funds, but that makes our funds go farther.

627
00:57:18,970 --> 00:57:29,290
And so that made this one attractive, there's also, when you have a road with the traffic volume that Broadway has it makes a lot of sense to us.

628
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:32,810
We wouldn't build a brand new road like that that didn't have sidewalk on both sides.

629
00:57:34,310 --> 00:57:42,030
What made it attractive as a tap grant besides the piece of road that it was on?

630
00:57:42,030 --> 00:57:47,370
I think that's the main thing. There's probably some other things, but that's, that's the one that sticks out to me.

631
00:57:48,010 --> 00:57:54,830
Is the, the, the, the functionality of the road. It's a, and I'm kind of what Broadway is.

632
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,860
Either a major collector or a minor or a carry on, I can't know which is I sit here.

633
00:58:02,140 --> 00:58:03,660
Right, but it connects to a mud at road.

634
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,920
It, it also connects to a mud at road. That's a good point.

635
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:18,920
Are there any pedestrian attractors in the area of this sidewalk piece that we're weighed?

636
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:27,910
I mean, we see it as the connection between downtown and the mall at some point.

637
00:58:28,750 --> 00:58:37,530
There's obviously all the normal attractors are there.

638
00:58:37,530 --> 00:58:48,710
and close proximity to this exact section of sidewalk, maybe not, but the idea of having sidewalk on both sides of Broadway, like I said before, is attractive, at least to public works.

639
00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:51,670
Nick.

640
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:56,670
This will turn, turn it at Maplewood, correct?

641
00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:58,090
Yes.

642
00:58:58,090 --> 00:59:00,990
And does it connect to sidewalk beyond that point?

643
00:59:02,290 --> 00:59:03,810
It does not, currently.

644
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:12,150
There's another sidewalk section on the city sidewalk master plan on the south side of

645
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:18,530
Broadway between Briarwood Lane and Manor Drive so that when that section, if and when

646
00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:24,150
that section's built, that pretty much fills in the gap everywhere, East of stadium.

647
00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:31,810
There's another gap, West of stadium, but that section of Broadway still maintained by

648
00:59:31,810 --> 00:59:34,890
No part of the reason I ask is that clean skills is right there.

649
00:59:34,910 --> 00:59:43,250
That's where there is a cross-flog and it is used by pedestrians to go north there, including

650
00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:48,130
kids who go to school, people who go to the ark, and so forth, and there is a good bit

651
00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:48,550
of traffic.

652
00:59:49,470 --> 00:59:52,010
Foot traffic there during those times, I know.

653
00:59:52,790 --> 00:59:55,550
I attended this interdeparties meeting.

654
00:59:55,550 --> 00:59:59,030
There were some concerns about grades on driveways.

655
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Have you been able to address those?

656
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:13,000
Sure, I think the folks that got up and spoke the live at 1312. That one in particular is probably the most tricky. I'll be the first to tell you.

657
01:00:13,820 --> 01:00:20,460
They're close to the road. And so we looked at modifying how both of their drive approaches work, sliding one.

658
01:00:20,460 --> 01:00:33,060
I think the west one further to the west to help with site help with grade and then also kind of the angle of the one on the east side to help with like turning movements in and out.

659
01:00:34,220 --> 01:00:36,180
So we've looked at that at each one.

660
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,280
At this stage at a public hearing before we go into detailed design.

661
01:00:40,780 --> 01:00:47,020
We've looked at them to make sure we didn't have any major problems there, but any place where we need an easement of some sort.

662
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:53,000
We're going to have those discussions with each of the property owners about what way to make this work.

663
01:00:53,460 --> 01:01:01,960
For them as best we can with obviously if it's approved and I just to build a sidewalk with still putting in a sidewalk in this location.

664
01:01:06,750 --> 01:01:11,230
And I think that you I did send questions to you about this and

665
01:01:12,090 --> 01:01:18,650
Do you respond to something about what mode on anticipate when they support, or when the site

666
01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:20,590
supports through the LTAP grant?

667
01:01:20,930 --> 01:01:22,630
Well, the size of a sidewalk.

668
01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:23,250
Sure.

669
01:01:23,810 --> 01:01:29,690
I mean, it's very typical for at least a four foot sidewalk, if not a five foot sidewalk.

670
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:34,830
And so, obviously, when we applied for a grant from mode on, we told them we were going to

671
01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:36,230
build a five foot sidewalk.

672
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:41,070
And so, if we went back to them and said we're going to build a three foot sidewalk, I would

673
01:01:41,070 --> 01:01:46,690
I can't say this for sure because I haven't asked that question, but I wouldn't think

674
01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:48,870
that would meet the requirements of the tapering.

675
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:51,250
I think we'd have trouble keeping that money.

676
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:55,210
And I know that you mentioned that you received comments about this,

677
01:01:55,310 --> 01:02:00,050
but that that meeting, and otherwise, in terms of opposition and support,

678
01:02:00,370 --> 01:02:02,430
can you give an idea about what you heard in that way?

679
01:02:02,890 --> 01:02:07,490
Sure. I see. I think it's just what we put in the council memo.

680
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:13,990
many comments were in favor of the project. We received eight written comments and we had 14

681
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:21,170
residents have attended the meeting. The comments were attached to the agenda item tonight.

682
01:02:21,810 --> 01:02:25,890
I think those eight comments, I think six were in favor.

683
01:02:28,130 --> 01:02:30,670
That's the information that we have

684
01:02:30,670 --> 01:02:34,110
to give you a tonight with what we've done so far.

685
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:37,350
And if we, and

686
01:02:40,420 --> 01:02:44,960
if we were to ask you to moderate, modify this in terms of size the width

687
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:53,260
of the sidewalk, you'd have to go back to address the grant again in order to clear that.

688
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,960
Yes, we would, I can tell you that one thing, you know, one thing that we would look at

689
01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:06,220
is, you know, areas where if we could get that five foot wide passing space, you know,

690
01:03:06,340 --> 01:03:10,620
within that 200 feet, and we could look at a four foot wide sidewalk, we could do that.

691
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:16,260
I'd be hesitant to to recommend that you have this move forward with the three foot sidewalk

692
01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:16,920
for sure.

693
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,560
And I think ideally, it's a five foot that we want.

694
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:25,280
I will say that I walked in my neighborhood today with a friend on three foot sidewalks,

695
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:30,300
which, you know, yeah, you can't really do that side by side.

696
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,720
I certainly couldn't with him anyway.

697
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:35,480
So I wouldn't support a three-foot sidewalk.

698
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,440
I have to say that.

699
01:03:37,060 --> 01:03:40,120
I wonder what the process would be to look at a four-foot sidewalk

700
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,200
and then provide the passing lanes as you described before.

701
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,720
Well, I think another thing to consider would be whether that be something

702
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,700
that you would want us to do through the entire length of the project.

703
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:58,680
You know, we've got any new subdivision that's built in town for as long as I've been

704
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,420
at the city's got a five foot wide sidewalk.

705
01:04:01,220 --> 01:04:06,420
So is it a matter of wanting four foot wide on this particular project or is it four

706
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:09,840
foot wide in certain areas and what's that criteria to make that determination?

707
01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:16,200
I think in my review of this, my question was going to be for some of these tighter areas

708
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,720
where especially you're looking at the grade of this, both for the distance away from

709
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,520
the front door.

710
01:04:21,740 --> 01:04:25,540
It's a similar conversation that we're having on ash, right, too, is that for those ones

711
01:04:25,540 --> 01:04:31,160
that these homes that are older, that are really close, I think the direction from council

712
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,100
is kind of like, you know, staff understands the intent, right?

713
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:39,500
We want connectivity, people are connected, but we also understand the space that we're given

714
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:45,000
in the historical nature, and so where possible we want to stay with the best case standards,

715
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:52,700
And at the same time, knowledgeable over you have that flexibility in the design and in the conversations on these easements.

716
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,560
Can you tell me what is the size of the sidewalk on the north side of Broadway?

717
01:05:00,990 --> 01:05:08,730
I'm not sure. There's some newer sections that are probably five feet. There's some older sections that are probably closer to four. That's a guess. I don't know that I have that right in front of me.

718
01:05:10,110 --> 01:05:18,510
Okay. I've got Betsy Mallory Vera. We're circling around again. Sorry. That's your head you're hand up.

719
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:36,270
I did, mainly because if we had any other discussion about widening broadway, I hate to put a sidewalk in if there's any chance that we're going to actually widen broadway at some point realizing we have, we have houses way too close, right?

720
01:05:37,030 --> 01:05:51,030
That's the West Boulevard, but I mean, is there any discussion about that, or is it what I would tell you is there's there's no discussion of widening Broadway as it relates to what's in the 2025 capital improvement sales tax.

721
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:56,350
There's there's no doubt that I think there's there's some need there.

722
01:05:56,350 --> 01:06:02,570
Um, but in the next 10 years, it isn't something that public works, anticipates having the funding to pursue.

723
01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:08,850
So therefore, we think 10, 15 years of sidewalk is, you know, worth it.

724
01:06:08,850 --> 01:06:10,450
It's worth it in this particular occasion.

725
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:11,970
All right. Thanks.

726
01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:14,670
Beerer than Mal.

727
01:06:16,590 --> 01:06:18,370
Um, oh, no, you're speaking to that.

728
01:06:18,730 --> 01:06:19,330
I see.

729
01:06:21,150 --> 01:06:22,970
I'm changing one of your names.

730
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:30,710
No, I think I said Vera, sorry, Vera, see, Vera, it's your turn, you would be right.

731
01:06:31,450 --> 01:06:34,690
Are we able to do comment or are we just saying questions right now?

732
01:06:35,050 --> 01:06:36,170
No, this is council comment too.

733
01:06:36,430 --> 01:06:36,790
Okay, perfect.

734
01:06:37,830 --> 01:06:46,430
I just want to comment and say there is absolutely a reason that four and five foot sidewalks are preferred.

735
01:06:46,930 --> 01:06:52,350
As someone who has used a mobility aid was a full-time mobility aid user for three years

736
01:06:52,350 --> 01:06:54,670
And as now a part-time mobility aid user,

737
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:56,990
I've used cadence walkers, roll-aiders,

738
01:06:57,290 --> 01:06:59,610
and wheel-chairs at varying times to get around.

739
01:06:59,950 --> 01:07:02,670
If you have ever tried to navigate a three-foot sidewalk

740
01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:06,530
in a wheelchair, whether it is manual or motorized,

741
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:09,890
if you veer like a centimeter,

742
01:07:10,490 --> 01:07:12,850
you are falling sideways into the ditch.

743
01:07:13,310 --> 01:07:17,390
To the point that I cannot power myself down a three-foot sidewalk

744
01:07:17,390 --> 01:07:21,230
in a wheelchair, and instead have to be steered by someone else,

745
01:07:21,230 --> 01:07:27,510
and have at times gone into the road because that was the safer option because I would not fall to my side.

746
01:07:28,770 --> 01:07:36,090
So while I understand prioritizing land and prioritizing understanding the historic environment,

747
01:07:36,850 --> 01:07:42,790
just being aware that that bare minimum is a bare minimum for a reason,

748
01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:47,030
and that the preferences are preferences for a reason,

749
01:07:47,030 --> 01:08:01,010
And that by making a three-foot sidewalk, you are prioritizing pedestrians who are mobile on their two feet without the aid of a mobility helper.

750
01:08:02,530 --> 01:08:08,950
So, wanted to make that comment and express my support for continuing with the plan as proposed.

751
01:08:09,550 --> 01:08:10,650
Thank you, Vera. Valerie.

752
01:08:12,730 --> 01:08:17,950
I do have some statements I want to make as well but first I want to ask if you can give

753
01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:19,710
us any comparison.

754
01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:27,130
We've had some comparisons to the Ask Street project and I think

755
01:08:27,130 --> 01:08:33,810
that stands out to me too and that it's also an area where some of the setbacks are different.

756
01:08:34,890 --> 01:08:41,910
How do the setbacks along this road compared to the setbacks along that other length

757
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:49,910
just generally, and how does the amount of easement needed for this project compare to

758
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:51,670
Ash?

759
01:08:53,850 --> 01:09:01,090
So, when we're talking about the Ash Street project, there was a desire for sidewalk on one side and a

760
01:09:01,090 --> 01:09:02,130
pedway on the other.

761
01:09:02,330 --> 01:09:08,150
So the pedway side, it is, you know, that's an eight foot wide, you know, sidewalk, so to speak.

762
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:11,210
So there's additional three feet right there.

763
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:13,250
There were some locations where we were able to go

764
01:09:13,250 --> 01:09:15,670
on the back of Kerb and some places where we were not.

765
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:17,890
So if you weren't on the back of Kerb,

766
01:09:18,010 --> 01:09:19,170
and you had an eight foot bit weight,

767
01:09:19,250 --> 01:09:20,550
you're sniffing at the closer.

768
01:09:22,350 --> 01:09:25,050
Like I said, I haven't really done an analysis

769
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:29,970
on the setbacks or the average setback on the two roads.

770
01:09:30,690 --> 01:09:33,950
I would tell you that the majority.

771
01:09:34,030 --> 01:09:37,930
Like you can see on the plan and I can scroll back through it,

772
01:09:37,930 --> 01:09:45,410
You can see where we're proposing to tie in the driveways, so while the houses are somewhat

773
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:51,070
closer to the road, we're not chasing a driveway clear up to the garage door.

774
01:09:51,270 --> 01:09:56,270
I mean, I've done projects like that, it's no fun, but that's not the case here.

775
01:09:57,310 --> 01:09:59,970
Well, they get a little steeper, yeah, because they have a flat spot for us.

776
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,220
I walk that didn't exist today. I'm not going to sugarcoat that, but for the most part, 13-12 was the

777
01:10:07,220 --> 01:10:12,720
most tricky one. The others, we feel pretty good about what we've got designed.

778
01:10:13,620 --> 01:10:23,120
And as you do the plan, keeping five foot for the majority of the project, do you have flexibility in front

779
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,460
of just the very most tricky points,

780
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,920
as opposed to doing four feet with passing at very 20 feet,

781
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:36,140
do you have flexibility to move that as needed?

782
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:38,080
Yes, and we do that frequently.

783
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,980
We don't usually do it the whole length of the property.

784
01:10:41,540 --> 01:10:42,600
That's pretty unusual.

785
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,580
I can tell you that, for instance, Mr. Moore has,

786
01:10:46,580 --> 01:10:51,260
I think, three drive approaches along his property.

787
01:10:51,260 --> 01:10:59,300
And so, one of the things that we could look at is doing a four-foot sidewalk through there

788
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:04,460
and using the driver approaches as that passing space that you're that's doable.

789
01:11:04,820 --> 01:11:06,600
It's someone unusual, I will tell you this.

790
01:11:06,860 --> 01:11:10,240
It's someone unusual for us to say, you get a four-foot sidewalk

791
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,480
and then the guy on either side, he gets a five-foot sidewalk.

792
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,060
So that's a little bit, you know, you start to wonder about the utility of it when you do that.

793
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:22,800
know but that's it's not impossible and everybody when we get to the point where we have

794
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,300
the ability to acquire easements if we move forward with this that's kind of what's a

795
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:32,080
typical discussion with each property owner because I need that I need that easement in order

796
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,580
to be able to move forward so that's definitely a conversation we can have is just not something

797
01:11:36,580 --> 01:11:42,540
we're usually able to get that far into the weeds before we come forward to get a public hearing

798
01:11:42,540 --> 01:11:44,360
get permission to move forward and so.

799
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:45,460
Yeah, exactly.

800
01:11:45,620 --> 01:11:50,060
And I have learned a lot about your processes by now.

801
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:52,040
I'll be at painfully at times.

802
01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:57,560
I appreciate the stage and the process that we are now

803
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,720
and the flexibility that you have going forward.

804
01:12:02,300 --> 01:12:07,200
The statement I want to make, I absolutely agree with Vera,

805
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,380
the width of the product, it has a purpose.

806
01:12:10,380 --> 01:12:18,660
I don't think this is all that similar to Ash. We're not talking about a pedway, we're not talking about eight feet.

807
01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:27,580
We're talking about two feet. I actually live very close to both of those projects and have walked both sections.

808
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:35,600
This is not in my ward, although it's right on the border of my road of my ward.

809
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:42,640
I disagree with the characterization that it's not commonly walked.

810
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,020
People don't want to walk in other people's yards.

811
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,560
And some of those yards have slopes.

812
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,000
And so it's not easy to walk.

813
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:57,540
I can say that I have walked right up to where that sidewalk dead end by surprise

814
01:12:57,540 --> 01:13:03,860
with two small children and then had to figure out how to get them to a place that was more safe.

815
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:16,660
Similarly, it's not very easy to get to the church on the corner or to some of the neighborhoods to the west.

816
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:27,620
I also want to point out that there's several paths that are undeveloped adjacent to this.

817
01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:32,340
This is close to Gerbs, which is a shopping center.

818
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,480
People like to walk there.

819
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,140
It's close to the art. People like to walk there.

820
01:13:37,740 --> 01:13:42,120
If you live in that area, and you're trying to get to the bicycle boulevard,

821
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:44,940
you're going south right through that section.

822
01:13:46,220 --> 01:13:47,900
These are all pedestrian attractors.

823
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,580
There's a school in the area. There's a church in the area. There's grocery stores.

824
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:55,360
I think people will use it.

825
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:06,460
I worry about the delay in infrastructure when we have things that aren't built out yet.

826
01:14:06,820 --> 01:14:10,720
And the chances that they may become built out in the near future.

827
01:14:11,540 --> 01:14:17,140
And I have seen agenda items related to those properties,

828
01:14:17,140 --> 01:14:27,000
not too far in the distant past. I suppose my next question would be, would we expect those

829
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:34,820
to be required to be built by a pedestrian by a developer in the near future? And I don't know

830
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:40,120
the answer to that. The largest swath of that is on the north side that's already built out.

831
01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:49,300
It's the manner drive corner that has recently had interest.

832
01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:53,320
Any other council comments?

833
01:14:54,020 --> 01:14:55,140
I've got Betsy and the Nick.

834
01:14:57,020 --> 01:14:59,980
Well, I just want to speak about what I would like.

835
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,140
And then what I will support. I'll go ahead and say, I wouldn't support a three-foot sidewalk. I don't think it's effective and I think it would limit it.

836
01:15:09,420 --> 01:15:18,800
It's a very limited use of the sidewalk itself. I think that in terms of people using this, I look at all of the residential that's south of this area.

837
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:29,980
I can't help but imagine that people who would cross who would go from that southern area and that southern neighborhood wouldn't enjoy having a sidewalk where they can make their way over to clings.

838
01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:35,980
scales, and then for the north, I mean, I'd like to see the sidewalk go to man or actually

839
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,000
for that very reason.

840
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:43,320
But I think we also have the reality of a historic neighborhood, a well-established neighborhood,

841
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,280
and I think we do have to keep that in mind.

842
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:52,220
So what I would like to see is to look at redesigning this, so we have four foot sidewalks,

843
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:59,960
where we can put them, especially in those areas, where we have houses that are close to the

844
01:16:00,700 --> 01:16:10,340
And I don't know what it would take to get to that, and I know there's a lot of work that's already been in this chain and I apologize, but that's what I'm wondering about.

845
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:11,400
Yep, that's it.

846
01:16:11,940 --> 01:16:14,120
Yes, I'm just going to speak to.

847
01:16:14,420 --> 01:16:18,960
We have a sidewalk on the north side and rather than put a sidewalk on the south side.

848
01:16:19,380 --> 01:16:28,840
Maybe we should look at pedestrian crossings to allow pedestrians to access the north sidewalk as opposed to putting an entire south sidewalk in.

849
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:34,920
I think it's too close to the houses that are there, and I don't think that we would let people

850
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:40,380
build houses. This is close to the road. It's we're now going to build sidewalks to their homes.

851
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,480
So I would be opposed to this because we just wouldn't have that much space, and that's part of the

852
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:51,840
problem with with redesigning or trying to improve areas in the older part of the city.

853
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,840
Can you want to speak to any planned pedestrian crossings along Broadway?

854
01:16:58,020 --> 01:17:03,400
I think the only one I know of that's not at a major intersection is the one there that's at

855
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,840
Green, what is that McBain or not McBain?

856
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:06,780
The deal, yeah.

857
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:07,120
Glenn Wood.

858
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:07,980
The deal, yeah.

859
01:17:08,340 --> 01:17:09,520
Green Wood or something.

860
01:17:11,620 --> 01:17:16,480
I can't, right now, we've got a list of midblock crossings that we'd like to look at.

861
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,080
I can't think of any that are on our list currently that are along Broadway.

862
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:25,420
That doesn't mean that there couldn't be something there, but that's not something we have planned.

863
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:29,080
It isn't imminent that we're going to put something like that in.

864
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:36,240
The next steps for this is the public hearing to advise you to start the process on getting easements

865
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,080
and doing the final designs.

866
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:44,600
So any of those kind of considerations on the ones that are close to that might potentially

867
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:49,240
warrant a four foot rather than a five foot, would that be taken into consideration?

868
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:56,960
Yeah, that's something we always take into consideration, I guess I would remind you of this is just the public hearing to start that final design.

869
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:03,040
We'd have to come back with a typically we'd come back with a bid call and in order to acquire those easements.

870
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:10,480
So at that stage, we'll have a lot more information as far as what the detailed design looks like.

871
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:20,180
So, I mean, that would be one way to take another look at it, for you all to take another look at it is what's been designed.

872
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:32,360
Just understand though that we would not have the ability to acquire easements yet, so it could still change when I go to acquire easements and we're like, okay, let's make this modification.

873
01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:38,500
Still meet the requirements of the project and get us a sidewalk that runs from station to station.

874
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:45,300
I appreciate that compromise because while there is a sidewalk on the north side, it is a very busy street.

875
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,420
And while we don't have plans for the pedestrian crosswalk, we still have lots of people walking along.

876
01:18:50,060 --> 01:18:54,620
I know because I knocked on some of these doors, and I was walking through your front yard and I apologize.

877
01:18:56,540 --> 01:18:59,200
So at least it wasn't raining, so I didn't add flip to it.

878
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:07,760
So with that, I'll make a motion to authorize staff to proceed with the construction of a sidewalk improvement project along the south side of West Broadway,

879
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:14,830
Which we may be able to drive in less full of art. Do I have a second second second my Nick Foster. She'll have you call roll

880
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:18,180
All right, yes

881
01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:25,160
Roll on the motion to

882
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:37,400
Proceed with the project. Yeah, miss Buffalo. Yes, miss Carol. Yes, miss Elwood. Yes, Miss Sample. Yes, Mr. Foster. Yes, miss Peters. No

883
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,900
All right, thank you

884
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:46,380
Moving on, Sheila, we please read public hearing 3025 and the accompanying Bill 247-25.

885
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:54,120
Public hearing 3025 is the proposed construction of the Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Central Improvement

886
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:59,980
Project and Council Bill 247-25 is an ordinance determining it is in the public interest to

887
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,800
Construct the Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Center Improvement Project, approving and adopting plans and specifications, the terminated portion of the work shall be done by contract, calling for bits through the purchasing division using a design-built contract, authorizing a portion of the project may be done by city employees providing for payment, for the improvement, authorizing the city manager to obtain, excuse, and record all documents necessary, for the improvement providing for compliance with the prevailing wage law and state mandated construction safety training and fixing the time in the sort of niche.

888
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,460
I'll become effective second rating.

889
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:32,840
We have a staff report.

890
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:33,760
Yes, thank you, Mayor.

891
01:20:33,940 --> 01:20:35,840
Gabe Huffington, Parks and Recreation Director.

892
01:20:36,740 --> 01:20:38,840
Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Center is located at

893
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,800
1900 Blue Ridge Road in Columbia's Second Ward.

894
01:20:42,260 --> 01:20:45,300
Our facility turned 50 years old in 2025.

895
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,840
And for this project, we have total funding

896
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,560
as part of the FY-2026 budget of $4 million.

897
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,680
The focus of this project is to update our existing

898
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,020
mechanical systems, replace a 50 year-old underground

899
01:20:59,020 --> 01:21:03,260
plumbing all throughout the area and then address some of the pool shell cracking while we

900
01:21:03,260 --> 01:21:06,100
also try to increase our swim value and our patron satisfaction.

901
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:09,520
Albert Oakland Family Aquatics Center is our biggest swim facility.

902
01:21:10,740 --> 01:21:17,080
We average about 24,000 patrons each summer from Memorial Day to Labor Day at this facility

903
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,420
throughout all hours.

904
01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:22,520
So we do water aerobics to recreational swimming to private pool rentals.

905
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,860
We have a two phase approach to the renovation project in Albert Oakland Family Aquatics Center.

906
01:21:27,860 --> 01:21:33,240
We've been talking about this since about 2023 in terms of long-term plans to fix the facility,

907
01:21:33,420 --> 01:21:38,640
some of the issues that we have, and then also to renovate an existing facility as we

908
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,680
look at our outdoor pools and what we have offering to the public.

909
01:21:42,300 --> 01:21:46,720
Our first phase is obviously to address our pool structure, that mechanical room, patrons

910
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,180
upgrades such as play features, shade and zero entry.

911
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,860
Phase two, as we look down the road, will be renovations to the bathhouse, and then also

912
01:21:54,860 --> 01:21:56,600
replacement of our existing water slide.

913
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:01,740
The water side was installed as part of the only renovation that has also happened in 1999.

914
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,880
So we're pushing about 26 years old on that portion of this project.

915
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:16,720
So in terms of the public input process for the renovations, we held two public input meetings at the facility on June 26th and June 27th of 2025.

916
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:26,200
Our goal was to catch as many patrons that were visiting as well as talk to our lifeguards and other staff members about the potential renovation project.

917
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:31,540
We also had online public comment on be heard Como, and then we've had our public hearing

918
01:22:31,540 --> 01:22:35,800
in front of our Parks and Recreation Commission on August 21, 2025.

919
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,300
Our funding for this project is unique, because we had not planned to do this extensive

920
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:44,080
of a project when we passed the 2021 Park Sales Tax.

921
01:22:44,420 --> 01:22:48,400
So we have been working with the Finance Department, and so we want to talk through each portion

922
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,160
of the funding with the Council as we look at this project.

923
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,520
Our total cost is $4 million.

924
01:22:53,980 --> 01:22:57,080
We'll have $300,000 will be from the Park Sales Tax.

925
01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:02,220
$1.2 million of the project will come from the city's designated loan fund.

926
01:23:02,740 --> 01:23:07,520
This is the same fund that we use to fund phase two of the Columbia Sports Field House.

927
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:10,100
As an example, this is a 10-year loan.

928
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,000
The payments are approximately $140,000 each year,

929
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,120
and we will pay for those through our Park Sales Tax Funding.

930
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:24,760
We will require as part of the legislation approval for the parts department to use the designated loan fund as part of the project.

931
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:30,500
The last portion of the funding $2.5 million is from the city's capital project interest account.

932
01:23:31,180 --> 01:23:38,980
This is a one-time allocation of funds. This comes from the account that collects interest earned from ongoing capital projects funding throughout the city.

933
01:23:38,980 --> 01:23:44,340
So this could be a Parks and Recreation project, this could be a water and light project, or another department.

934
01:23:44,900 --> 01:23:51,060
But this funding would come from this account as a one time allocation, that's already been approved as part of the budget.

935
01:23:52,500 --> 01:23:54,360
So our procurement process and project timeline.

936
01:23:54,940 --> 01:24:00,920
So we are requesting authority to use the design build process as one option for the project design and construction.

937
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:07,840
We want to be able to evaluate design build, which is to have one contractor to work with

938
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:13,900
to do both those aspects of the project, versus our traditional concept, which is we would

939
01:24:13,900 --> 01:24:18,400
go out and do design and engineering of the project first, and then we would bid out the construction

940
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,400
of the project.

941
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:21,860
So, we'll work with our purchasing department on this.

942
01:24:22,300 --> 01:24:27,720
As we did the Lake of the Woods Pool project last winter, we used the design build process.

943
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:36,040
for this project we want to just have the ability to evaluate both, so we do need authority from City Council to be able to move forward with that option.

944
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,740
We are anticipating full project completion by spring of twenty twenty seven.

945
01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:50,420
And so our goal is with this, our process is to make sure that we don't have a major interruption to our twenty twenty six aquatic season at Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Center.

946
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,380
And so as we start to work through this project we'll update council on our timeline.

947
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:59,980
And we at originally thought we could have this project done by what is May of 2012.

948
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:11,140
But we want to make sure we have enough time to get the project done. We're competitive through the bidding process. We have some concerns that will have some extra costs if we do try to do this in an expedited fashion.

949
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:14,760
But then also our biggest concern is making sure we don't interrupt that pool season.

950
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:25,520
Because what happens when you interrupt too much of that pool season, if we weren't to open until July, we're going to really struggle to be able to hire lifeguards, because we haven't made that entire summer commitment.

951
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:30,940
And then also from a financial revenue aspect of re-couping some of our costs for the pool,

952
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,980
we're not going to see that as much.

953
01:25:33,540 --> 01:25:38,880
So we'll evaluate this process once Council gives us authorization to proceed with the project.

954
01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:45,760
So we have done some initial concepts for what we needed in terms of the pool,

955
01:25:45,980 --> 01:25:50,740
and I'll kind of walk through each aspect of this and in terms of the comments we heard from the public,

956
01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:54,780
but then also comments from staff, and then things that we would like to do as well.

957
01:25:55,460 --> 01:26:01,480
So our main priority with this pool project is to upgrade all of our mechanical systems and plumbing.

958
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:06,060
Our facility has 50 year old components in some areas.

959
01:26:06,740 --> 01:26:12,780
We have a leaking pool structure and then we have a lot of our plumbing is that original 50 year old as well.

960
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:18,260
So the first very part of this is replacement of our electrical panels, breakers and controllers for the facility.

961
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,920
This is work that will be done by Parks and Recreation staff as part of the project.

962
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,740
and can actually be done before the contractor would start on the remainder of the project.

963
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:33,060
We will also look at the replacement of necessary our filtration and sanitation equipment.

964
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,260
This will be based on our age, efficiency, and wear and tear.

965
01:26:36,580 --> 01:26:39,640
So as the contractor comes in that will work with on the aquatic facility,

966
01:26:40,460 --> 01:26:42,340
they'll do an evaluation of all these components.

967
01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:48,380
Some of them are older and will need to be replaced and then some things have been upgraded recently by our staff.

968
01:26:48,580 --> 01:26:51,300
And so those parts of this mechanical room will remain.

969
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,160
In terms of the pool of shell, this is a priority for the department in the project.

970
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,520
The first is to install a PVC liner throughout the pool.

971
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,040
So all of that structure that is in white in that photo will receive a pool liner.

972
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,540
This will help with the existing cracking that we have in the pool shell.

973
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:12,280
We've done this process with Douglas Family Aquatic Center,

974
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:16,680
and also Lake of the Woods pool, both received a PVC pool liner

975
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,480
as part of the project for innovations that we've done on those two.

976
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:31,120
We'll also install a new deck level stainless steel gutter system, so they'll remove the existing gutter system, and we'll add that new system for capturing anything that is on the top level of that water.

977
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:38,120
One additional upgrade that we'll do is part of the pool structure is installation of starting blocks on both ends of the pool.

978
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:43,640
This is a request in terms of competitive swimming events so that we can have actual relays.

979
01:27:44,060 --> 01:27:47,500
We'll be able to go in both directions as long as we can increase our height of pool.

980
01:27:48,680 --> 01:28:00,000
Another major part of this is replacing one of all of the underground plumbing, so when you go from that mechanical room out to the pool, everything from main drain to returns, all of that will be replaced as part of the project.

981
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:05,960
So we will get rid of our 50 year old plumbing system and we will upgrade that all to brand new plumbing.

982
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:09,580
We will also replace the majority of the concrete deck.

983
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:11,960
So as we are doing the plumbing replacement,

984
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,820
we'll replace all of the pool deck.

985
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,840
This coincides also with place of shade structures,

986
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,240
which I'll talk about here in a minute,

987
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,900
but one of the main factors is this is also

988
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:23,040
some very old concrete and many areas of the pool.

989
01:28:23,660 --> 01:28:26,400
We've done some initial engineering work on this portion of the project

990
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,340
with Cracket Engineering, so that'll be included in the RFP for the project.

991
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:33,980
The renovations to the pool also include

992
01:28:33,980 --> 01:28:37,860
some design aspects for the shallow area of the main pool.

993
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,600
This area has depths of water, which is about 18 inches to three feet.

994
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:46,620
This is a very populated area of the swimming pool, based on the height of water.

995
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,180
So our goal is to expand this space.

996
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:53,020
And this is where we get more into the design of the pool as we move forward,

997
01:28:53,140 --> 01:28:55,520
but also increase our accessibility within the pool.

998
01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:01,040
So one of the things that we did with the woods pool is to add zero entry into that pool.

999
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:05,120
And so we are going to propose to look at how we can do that at Albert Oakham Family Aquatic

1000
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,140
Center as well.

1001
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:07,980
This creates a beach feel.

1002
01:29:08,660 --> 01:29:12,720
So as you enter the water you are entering at a zero level and then you are moving down

1003
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:17,000
into that three feet into the swimming lanes which is four to half to five feet of water.

1004
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:23,220
This allows younger kids to be in this area, we have some flashphrase, there is a dumping

1005
01:29:23,220 --> 01:29:25,580
bucket but then also from an accessibility standpoint.

1006
01:29:26,180 --> 01:29:29,780
This widens out this area of the pool, there is a handrail that is not shown but will

1007
01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:45,540
as part of this. So it increases our accessibility as well. And so our one aspect we'll look at is to make sure we can enlarge this area because we have a lot of swimmers that occupy this space. So we'll make sure that we have this available and then make some improvements to it.

1008
01:29:46,140 --> 01:29:53,460
We also are looking at some new waterplay features. One of our biggest task is to entertain our teenagers that are at the swimming pool as well.

1009
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:58,840
So one thing at Douglas Family Aquatics Center, we have a climbing wall that's approximately eight feet tall

1010
01:29:58,840 --> 01:29:59,980
So if you look at

1011
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,580
It's essentially a little bit more than one panel. You can go up to 15 to 20 feet at Albradoclin Family Aquatic Center with the climbing wall because we have a deep end of the pool.

1012
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:14,620
And so we'll be able to have two diving boards and then also be able to have a climbing wall for kids to be able to utilize.

1013
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:23,360
There's another feature called an aquasip. So thank miniatures that blind. This is a feature that we've seen in some other facilities added recently.

1014
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:27,060
So we will look at how we can incorporate these into the pool as well.

1015
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,900
We also will look at it. We're placing the existing water place structure in the Kitty

1016
01:30:31,900 --> 01:30:37,640
Poll area. This is not as old. We replaced this about 11 years ago, but as we look at

1017
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:42,260
a project that is going to be a year or two down the road, we're getting to 16 years. We also

1018
01:30:42,260 --> 01:30:46,760
have some plumbing leaks under this area, so we want to be able to address this at the same time.

1019
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,800
Number one, request from the public to add to Albert O'Connor Aquatics Center was shade,

1020
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,640
which was not surprising.

1021
01:30:54,820 --> 01:30:55,640
We had heard this before.

1022
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,980
But as we look at the pool deck of the existing facility,

1023
01:30:59,380 --> 01:31:01,800
we have zero patron shade throughout that structure.

1024
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:04,660
So we will propose to add 10 different shade structures

1025
01:31:04,660 --> 01:31:07,580
throughout the pool, different areas, different sizes.

1026
01:31:08,580 --> 01:31:11,840
All of those will be for park patrons of the swimming facility

1027
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,460
and then also in the concession areas.

1028
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:19,400
We also will need to add in a new eight foot tall chain link fence

1029
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:21,040
that picture in the top right.

1030
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:28,200
This is the fence with slats at Lake the Woodspool that was recently installed, and so we will look at that same application at Elverto Climple as well.

1031
01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:30,640
Additional improvements.

1032
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:41,500
We will re-referbish the existing water slides, so this is a process of painting and checking it to make sure that we can continue to have that for as long as we need.

1033
01:31:41,500 --> 01:31:49,180
We'll put new lifeguard stands with shades out, a new ADA pool lift, we'll have to be installed on the, on the, on the deeper parts of the pool.

1034
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,760
New LED pool deck lighting. This will be done by our staff and our electrician.

1035
01:31:53,820 --> 01:31:58,940
And then we plan to have a new PA system, new security camera system, and then we'll replace diving boards as well.

1036
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:12,680
This is the report I have, staff requesting approval of legislation authorizing renovations to Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Center, along with this approval to use the designated loan fund to pay for a portion of the project.

1037
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,460
as well as authority to look at the design build process as one way of procurement for the project.

1038
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,100
And I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

1039
01:32:20,380 --> 01:32:22,820
Any questions for staff from Council?

1040
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,220
I mean, then I'll go ahead and open up the public hearing.

1041
01:32:28,700 --> 01:32:33,740
But anybody from the public wish to speak on the proposed improvements to the Albert Oakland Family Aquatic Center?

1042
01:32:35,180 --> 01:32:41,200
Thank you very much for that, Gabe. I just want you to know I'm so happy to be able to go to the pool eventually and then we'll be shade.

1043
01:32:41,900 --> 01:32:53,980
I do not go to that pool for that reason, because there is no shade, and my husband who is a super pale cannot go either, because there is no shade, he has to be endorsed, so I'm looking forward to that.

1044
01:32:54,660 --> 01:32:54,700
Thanks.

1045
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:55,340
Thank you, Tracy.

1046
01:32:56,100 --> 01:33:00,340
Anybody else from the public which to speak about the proposed improvements to the Aquatic Center?

1047
01:33:10,740 --> 01:33:12,320
Hello, I am from Ward 3.

1048
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,580
My name is Arch Kimbrill.

1049
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,180
I would just like to speak in support of this.

1050
01:33:16,180 --> 01:33:20,860
This is not like came here, but I am very happy to see that we're working

1051
01:33:20,860 --> 01:33:22,380
to make improvements at the pool.

1052
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,140
I am from Springfield, Missouri.

1053
01:33:24,180 --> 01:33:26,480
Actually, I've been living Columbia just for college.

1054
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,560
And we have a lot more facilities than you guys do.

1055
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,860
I do realize there's a lot bigger budget in Springfield, Missouri.

1056
01:33:32,540 --> 01:33:35,920
But it's really important to me and a lot of younger people

1057
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,820
that I have a place that I can swim safely,

1058
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,600
because trying to swim in your creeks here,

1059
01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:45,320
there is a lot of debris and waste and things

1060
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,580
that I don't really want to be swimming in.

1061
01:33:47,580 --> 01:33:52,700
So if these facilities are up to par, I would go to them instead.

1062
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:53,780
Thank you.

1063
01:33:53,780 --> 01:33:54,780
Thank you.

1064
01:33:55,180 --> 01:33:57,860
Anybody else want to speak to the proposed renovations

1065
01:33:57,860 --> 01:34:00,400
to Albert Oakland Family Aquatics Center?

1066
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,960
You know, I'll close the public hearing.

1067
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:05,840
Any counsel questions or comments?

1068
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,280
You just cover such a so much amazing stuff.

1069
01:34:12,660 --> 01:34:12,900
Thank you, Gary.

1070
01:34:13,180 --> 01:34:13,840
Thanks so much.

1071
01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:17,600
All right, Sheila, we please call roll on Bill 247-25.

1072
01:34:18,540 --> 01:34:27,980
Councilful 247-25, Ms. Buffalo? Yes. Ms. Carroll? Yes. Ms. Elwood? Yes. Ms. Sample? Yes. Mr. Foster? Yes.

1073
01:34:28,140 --> 01:34:29,800
Ms. Peters? Yes.

1074
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:36,760
All right. Going on to old business. She thought will you please repeat policy resolution 13425?

1075
01:34:38,700 --> 01:34:45,900
Councilful 13425 is a policy resolution adopting priorities for the 2026 legislative session, second reading.

1076
01:34:45,900 --> 01:34:47,800
Do we have a staff report?

1077
01:34:49,820 --> 01:34:50,740
Hi, good evening.

1078
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,620
Stacy, why do I have an assistant to the City Manager?

1079
01:34:55,460 --> 01:34:59,980
I've got some slides that just list our priorities.

1080
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,660
The Board of Trustees, the general ones, they've got two that cover the more specific priorities.

1081
01:35:05,780 --> 01:35:10,520
You'll remember that this is a brand new process for us, so you've had the chance to look over these once

1082
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:15,120
a re-tweiss in the past, but I'm happy to answer any questions you might have.

1083
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:21,980
I'll just say thank you for that. I know this is something that makes it a lot easier for us to advocate for ourselves in Jefferson City.

1084
01:35:21,980 --> 01:35:31,340
I guess one question I have is, from here, is the thought that, if other things arise,

1085
01:35:31,620 --> 01:35:36,360
you would come back to council and see if priorities have shifted if any of these things

1086
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:37,040
get achieved.

1087
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,100
I don't know if we've thought through the next steps on that.

1088
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:40,080
Have staff?

1089
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:45,680
Do you mean for, once the legislation, once the legislative year has started, is there,

1090
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:49,900
once we see what bills are filed, is there kind of a touch point where you'll come back

1091
01:35:49,900 --> 01:35:51,960
to council and be like, there's some of these things that actually

1092
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,280
didn't fall within, but we think would be, I don't know,

1093
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,400
to Carlin, you or Stacey, I've thought so on that.

1094
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,500
I think part of one of the things that Stacey will be doing

1095
01:35:59,500 --> 01:36:03,340
is tracking legislation, and so as we track the legislation

1096
01:36:03,340 --> 01:36:06,340
that are coming from our legislators, just making sure that they

1097
01:36:06,340 --> 01:36:07,340
feel with our local priorities.

1098
01:36:08,060 --> 01:36:11,300
And so you'll get a report that we'll talk about what legislation

1099
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:13,020
fits within these priority areas.

1100
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:15,600
The additional questions.

1101
01:36:16,260 --> 01:36:19,140
I will say that before we open up for public comment

1102
01:36:19,140 --> 01:36:21,920
is that I will be making one amendment

1103
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,000
to this based on the conversations that we've had with CPD.

1104
01:36:25,740 --> 01:36:27,800
Do you have, did you say you have any more detail,

1105
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:29,920
do you have another detailed slide or is this one it?

1106
01:36:30,340 --> 01:36:33,640
So this is our, you'll remember that we are splitting our priorities

1107
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,920
general, these are the really big broad areas

1108
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,080
where a lot of different potential bills might fall within these.

1109
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:43,620
And we also have more specific priorities

1110
01:36:43,620 --> 01:36:46,500
of these are items that we would, of course,

1111
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:48,840
we would be engaging with our lobbyists on all these,

1112
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,160
that these are items that we might try more specifically to achieve.

1113
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,440
I'll just make comment to that first one under public safety.

1114
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,020
This is one that we heard this evening from our police chief,

1115
01:37:00,340 --> 01:37:01,700
making the comments about that.

1116
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:06,520
And I'd like to add, I'll be making a commotion this before we've been open up,

1117
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,100
but to add an additional one under this,

1118
01:37:09,260 --> 01:37:13,500
because one of the other conversations that we've heard from the police

1119
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,560
are about the incidents of guns stolen from cars

1120
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:21,040
and that the State of Missouri has no requirement to report them stolen.

1121
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:30,180
So when I look at what other states have done on this issue, reporting loss or slowing guns to local law enforcement may reduce underground gun sales and illegal gun trafficking.

1122
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:35,200
And so I think since this is one of the instance that I'm calling the police has brought up has been an issue.

1123
01:37:36,260 --> 01:37:42,440
It has been introduced at the state a few times, but it should be one of the city of Columbia should advocate for.

1124
01:37:42,440 --> 01:37:44,480
And so the writing that I have is just,

1125
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,780
this is the declamious supports legislation requiring

1126
01:37:46,780 --> 01:37:49,660
lost or still in guns to be reported to local law enforcement

1127
01:37:49,660 --> 01:37:52,800
within 72 hours after discovery of the loss.

1128
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,100
So I'll make that motion to amend our priorities for exhibit A,

1129
01:37:57,180 --> 01:37:57,920
to include that one.

1130
01:37:57,980 --> 01:37:58,900
Do I have a second?

1131
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:00,000
Second.

1132
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:00,600
Second, by Vera.

1133
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,020
All those in favor of that amendment say aye.

1134
01:38:03,220 --> 01:38:03,660
Aye.

1135
01:38:03,820 --> 01:38:04,520
Any opposed?

1136
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:05,780
Thank you for that.

1137
01:38:05,900 --> 01:38:07,660
And I'm sure there will be more things that will come up

1138
01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:08,260
from CPD.

1139
01:38:08,260 --> 01:38:15,460
Any other questions from Council on the legislative priorities we have before us?

1140
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:21,220
Then I'll, all right, would anyone from the public wish to speak on policy resolution 13425?

1141
01:38:21,380 --> 01:38:25,740
The 2019-26 legislative priorities have so come up to the podium.

1142
01:38:32,820 --> 01:38:37,340
I'm Natalie Hampton and I have been a first-word resident for 15 years.

1143
01:38:37,620 --> 01:38:39,720
Thank you to the Council and the mayor.

1144
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,560
I know that your job is difficult and you all are volunteers.

1145
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:49,220
we really appreciate it. My views I'm expressing tonight are my own, I have recently been threatened

1146
01:38:49,220 --> 01:38:56,240
by my employer with possible termination for speaking out on public issues, but I wanted to say

1147
01:38:56,240 --> 01:39:02,420
that I am very happy to see retaining local control as part of the legislative priorities,

1148
01:39:03,340 --> 01:39:09,900
particularly with the things that have been happening here. I have some fears that some of the

1149
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:18,400
that Manchoy has made recently could be paving the way for potential attempts to have a police take over

1150
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:25,480
in Columbia similar to what happened in St. Louis. This was a really well-funded effort and there's still money there

1151
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:34,460
to support that effort. So I think that that's going to be really important to keep an eye on. It is so important to me

1152
01:39:34,460 --> 01:39:43,060
that we do maintain control of our city and don't have this kind of authoritarian effort to

1153
01:39:43,060 --> 01:39:48,320
to take control of of it from our citizenry. Thank you. Thank you.

1154
01:39:48,500 --> 01:39:53,960
What anyone else from the public wish to speak on the policy resolution resolution 1.34. 25.

1155
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:59,340
When I want to concur with Natalie, Tracy Wilson and Klee Camp, I want to concur with Natalie about

1156
01:39:59,340 --> 01:39:59,960
a little cock-in-tip.

1157
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:06,200
I don't want to say too much, because too much has gone on in the past week, but I do think that it's very

1158
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:11,940
important that we are able to look to looking at that. One choice has his plantation that he takes

1159
01:40:11,940 --> 01:40:18,540
care of and the mayor you're in charge over here as our representative, and we do have an equal

1160
01:40:18,540 --> 01:40:27,860
to one choice in Mr. Cwood. And so I would ask that in some ways that we be more proactive in

1161
01:40:27,860 --> 01:40:36,800
language and how we situate power, power, structure so that we're in front and not behind.

1162
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:43,360
Thank you. Would anyone else wish to speak on the proposed 2020-6 legislative priorities?

1163
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:52,000
Being none, come back to council comments. Any council comments? I'll look this way first.

1164
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:53,960
Yeah, Valley.

1165
01:40:56,140 --> 01:41:01,100
Do you know, I had planned. I had not expected for this to come up under

1166
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:06,920
legislative priorities and had planned to say something during closing comments.

1167
01:41:07,620 --> 01:41:14,340
But I do appreciate the input, and I do share many of your concerns.

1168
01:41:15,460 --> 01:41:16,100
Thank you.

1169
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,040
Vera, anything?

1170
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:17,940
I'm from now.

1171
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:18,620
Check me.

1172
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:20,360
Thank you.

1173
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:24,200
Well, to say this is one of those times when I appreciate that we have a conversation

1174
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:31,080
this in a pre-counsel meeting, so we can go through these things and feel good about

1175
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:36,240
where we are, and so I do, but I think it also is significant to point out that the mayor's

1176
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:42,220
offered an amendment to this, that I support, and it's important that we would call it all of

1177
01:41:42,220 --> 01:41:48,600
these things that we do are living documents, and they are subject to change as situations

1178
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:50,300
and circumstances change.

1179
01:41:53,610 --> 01:42:01,650
I'll just add to, I was in a meeting recently, where somebody said,

1180
01:42:02,710 --> 01:42:07,170
advocating for common sense gun legislation was a non-starter in the state of Missouri.

1181
01:42:08,370 --> 01:42:12,690
And while I understand the political landscape that we're in, when I have my police chief

1182
01:42:12,690 --> 01:42:18,050
telling me a couple of laws that would help them do their job to keep people safe, I'm going

1183
01:42:18,050 --> 01:42:19,050
to listen to her.

1184
01:42:19,450 --> 01:42:24,590
And so I was happy that the fall of council was supportive of those amendments because I think

1185
01:42:24,590 --> 01:42:26,690
it makes it easier for them to do their jobs.

1186
01:42:26,690 --> 01:42:35,930
And I think I reject the narrative that it's a lost cause, and then we need to stop advocating for things when it comes to people safety, and especially for future generations.

1187
01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:40,970
So just thankful to Council and think for staff for putting this together. I appreciate it. Thanks, Casey.

1188
01:42:42,410 --> 01:42:46,330
Sheila, we please call roll on policy resolution 134 or 25.

1189
01:42:46,330 --> 01:42:55,490
House of Bill 13425 as amended. Ms. Buffalo. Yes. Ms. Carol. Yes. Ms. Elwood. Yes. Ms. Sample. Yes.

1190
01:42:55,810 --> 01:43:02,750
Mr. Foster. Yes. Ms. Peters. Yes. You requested me to the one guy. All right.

1191
01:43:02,910 --> 01:43:09,690
Sheila, will you please read Bill 24325. Council Bill 24325 is an ordinance extending the corporate

1192
01:43:09,690 --> 01:43:15,130
limits of the city of Columbia, Missouri by annexing property located on the northwest corner of Clark Lane

1193
01:43:15,130 --> 01:43:20,170
and Lakewood Drive, directing the city clerk to give notice of the annexation, placing the

1194
01:43:20,170 --> 01:43:25,550
annex, placing the property annexed, and district MC mixed use corridor and fixing the

1195
01:43:25,550 --> 01:43:28,030
time when this ordinance shall become effective second reading.

1196
01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:29,630
Do we have a staff report?

1197
01:43:30,410 --> 01:43:31,830
A new staff report?

1198
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:32,570
Yes.

1199
01:43:32,890 --> 01:43:33,370
Thank you, Mayor.

1200
01:43:33,470 --> 01:43:33,770
Council.

1201
01:43:34,050 --> 01:43:35,310
We do have a staff report tonight.

1202
01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:38,630
I'm Clint Smith, a community development director.

1203
01:43:39,770 --> 01:43:41,670
I've had all of one week under my belt.

1204
01:43:41,670 --> 01:43:46,490
So I have asked Mr. Ziner, Development Services Manager, to come and give an overview of this

1205
01:43:46,490 --> 01:43:47,970
case and to help me answer any questions.

1206
01:43:48,190 --> 01:43:49,430
So with that, I'll turn over to him.

1207
01:43:50,250 --> 01:43:50,330
Okay.

1208
01:43:50,330 --> 01:43:51,010
Good evening, Council.

1209
01:43:51,230 --> 01:43:53,190
Pat Ziner, Development Service Manager.

1210
01:43:55,310 --> 01:44:03,030
So we are concluding the process this evening as it relates to the assignment of permanent

1211
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:09,010
zoning and annexation of 0.89 acre piece of property at the northwest corner of Clark and

1212
01:44:09,010 --> 01:44:15,350
would drive. The request by the applicant is to have this parcel annexed into the city that public

1213
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:23,710
hearing was held on the 15th of September. And they are seeking to have MC mixed use corridor

1214
01:44:23,710 --> 01:44:29,270
as the permanent zoning upon annexation should Council desire to make recommendation for that

1215
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:36,150
or approve that request. General Locator Maps, you have an idea of where we are in the world.

1216
01:44:36,150 --> 01:44:39,390
Here, northwest of the roundabout of Clark Lane,

1217
01:44:41,370 --> 01:44:44,670
Lake of the woods and St. Charles going off to the east.

1218
01:44:45,190 --> 01:44:48,110
This is the vacant parcel and is immediately adjacent to the

1219
01:44:48,110 --> 01:44:49,590
liquid shopping center.

1220
01:44:50,710 --> 01:44:53,090
Property to the northwest is in the county,

1221
01:44:54,190 --> 01:44:57,810
as is property to the immediate east on North Lake Wood Drive.

1222
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:59,970
All of the properties south of...

1223
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,000
Of the roundabout is inside the city's corporate limits in his own M.C. as well.

1224
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:13,580
So as indicated, we are applicant is seeking open M.C. zoning to allow for auto-oriented commercial

1225
01:45:13,580 --> 01:45:19,560
development on this property, and generally a more direct path towards development approvals.

1226
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:28,940
This particular property is presently zone, boon County, R.M., which is their moderate

1227
01:45:28,940 --> 01:45:38,200
zone in 2004, which is now an expired request to county general commercial planned district.

1228
01:45:38,380 --> 01:45:43,480
So there was a plan associated with this property that restricted the uses on the vacant

1229
01:45:43,480 --> 01:45:48,280
tract of land as well as the liquid shopping center to what is equivalent to our mixed

1230
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:53,440
use neighborhood zoning district or in the county referred to as CN, neighborhood

1231
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:59,620
commercial associated with that rezoning request was an approval by the County Commission

1232
01:45:59,620 --> 01:46:06,220
to allow for a 500 square foot coffee shack drive through restaurant and that was a conditional

1233
01:46:06,220 --> 01:46:12,300
use approval that was approved in addition to the development plan revisions made in 2004.

1234
01:46:14,380 --> 01:46:20,420
And our meeting when we were talking about this request on September 15th, a couple of questions

1235
01:46:20,420 --> 01:46:23,980
were asked of me and I have a couple of answers.

1236
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:29,920
So first and foremost, the accesses to this particular property, they're off of Clark Lane,

1237
01:46:30,460 --> 01:46:35,460
were intended to be utilized for both the parcels, the developed and the vacant parcel

1238
01:46:35,460 --> 01:46:36,280
to the east.

1239
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:42,240
I also made a statement during that public hearing that the applicant would only have to submit

1240
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:50,200
the final development plan in order to activate the actual development potential on the vacant

1241
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:56,260
parcel. After conferring with my colleagues over at the county, that was an incorrect statement.

1242
01:46:57,100 --> 01:47:03,060
Given the fact that the plan has expired, I'm an expired two years after 2004,

1243
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:08,360
the zoning on this property would have to be re-approved fully by the county commissioner.

1244
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:13,520
That would require going through the county's planning and zoning commission as well as going

1245
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:23,960
through the County Commission themselves is that process does create some potential uncertainties,

1246
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:27,940
which is partially why this request has been brought forward to the city of Columbia.

1247
01:47:27,940 --> 01:47:31,460
There is a more direct path to allowing for development to occur.

1248
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,700
MC zoning is a straight zoning district.

1249
01:47:35,380 --> 01:47:40,320
The uses that are auto-oriented that have been expressed a drive through specifically is a

1250
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:48,220
right permitted use, meaning there would be limited review in the limited ability for the

1251
01:47:48,220 --> 01:47:56,120
city to apply additional conditions such as buffering or access restrictions that a conditional

1252
01:47:56,120 --> 01:48:02,520
use would potentially be able to apply or a plan district would be able to apply.

1253
01:48:04,940 --> 01:48:09,600
To give a little bit of additional context, this is the original review plan in 2004.

1254
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,640
At that time there was a 4,000 square foot building shown on the vacant lot.

1255
01:48:14,860 --> 01:48:17,840
There was no drive through or the coffee shack.

1256
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:21,240
The image to your right is where the coffee shack was authorized.

1257
01:48:22,380 --> 01:48:25,900
If you think our city-blending processes are difficult to follow.

1258
01:48:26,820 --> 01:48:29,640
My reading of the board orders with the county are even more challenging.

1259
01:48:30,260 --> 01:48:35,680
I can't quite tell if the drive through canopy shown on that 4,000 square foot building was actually approved.

1260
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:41,280
But the best I can tell is, no, it was not, and there was a requirement that the review plan be amended.

1261
01:48:41,980 --> 01:48:50,240
So the red circle represents the 500 square foot coffee shack that apparently their board order was the only drive through use on that land.

1262
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:56,670
The images that you see here explain a little bit about the access.

1263
01:48:57,110 --> 01:49:05,290
So Clark Lane, the access is on Clark as I indicated, were done with the intent that they would serve the development as a whole.

1264
01:49:05,970 --> 01:49:10,190
and the access to the North Lakewood at that time was also contemplated.

1265
01:49:10,730 --> 01:49:11,890
That is the upper image.

1266
01:49:12,770 --> 01:49:15,450
And as you will note, the roundabout was not there.

1267
01:49:16,130 --> 01:49:20,190
The lower image, which is from the assessor's files from 2015 to 2017,

1268
01:49:20,750 --> 01:49:25,250
obviously shows the roundabout and shows the relocation of the eastern access

1269
01:49:25,870 --> 01:49:27,910
eastward into the roundabout.

1270
01:49:28,150 --> 01:49:33,070
And that was done in order to give a better separation between the original two access

1271
01:49:33,070 --> 01:49:38,430
as well as a more appropriate turn-off coming into this commercial development.

1272
01:49:41,150 --> 01:49:45,330
At the time that the first phase of this project was approved, which is where the shopping

1273
01:49:45,330 --> 01:49:51,630
center exists today, there was no cross-accessesment created in order to fully allow development

1274
01:49:51,630 --> 01:49:57,070
opportunity for the adjacent vacant track to the east across accessesment still will be

1275
01:49:57,070 --> 01:49:59,930
are acquired. And that would be, regardless.

1276
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,820
Reduce if whose jurisdiction this property does come into, they are asking for an annexation.

1277
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:10,540
So, if this were not to be approved, the county would still have control over the property.

1278
01:50:11,660 --> 01:50:15,980
And they would also, for my conversations with my colleagues at the county, indicated that

1279
01:50:15,980 --> 01:50:18,360
there would be a requirement for that cross-excessible statement.

1280
01:50:19,540 --> 01:50:24,700
As we discussed as a part of the annexation, the comprehensive plan supports the

1281
01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:30,340
commercial development concept here that is being offered and requested by the applicant,

1282
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:35,960
the Commission and the staff are both supportive of that. The MCZoning, however,

1283
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:43,100
allows for more intense auto-centric uses such as drive-throughs, gas stations, higher levels

1284
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:49,480
of commercialized development, would limited review oversight, and the intensity of those uses in

1285
01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:55,580
M.C. zoning district would be greater than that of the current uses that were permitted

1286
01:50:55,580 --> 01:51:02,140
in the C.G.P, which were never restricted by the county, then would be otherwise allowed

1287
01:51:02,140 --> 01:51:03,780
in our M.C. zoning district.

1288
01:51:04,540 --> 01:51:10,740
The M.N. zoning of the city would be consistent with the county authorization that was

1289
01:51:10,740 --> 01:51:16,500
provided in 2004 and allows similar auto-centric uses, however, would require that

1290
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:22,500
out-of-centric uses be approved with a conditional use permit authorization. Conditional use permits

1291
01:51:22,500 --> 01:51:29,520
within the city structure require a site plan. They require planning and zoning commission

1292
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:36,380
recommendation and they ultimately require city council approval. The MN through the public hearing

1293
01:51:36,380 --> 01:51:41,260
process by our planning commission as well as by staff as viewed as the more appropriate transition

1294
01:51:41,260 --> 01:51:45,580
for the neighboring residential development that is to the north of the subject site.

1295
01:51:50,710 --> 01:51:54,730
And the graphic you see in front of you here is a comparison basically of our zoning.

1296
01:51:55,230 --> 01:52:01,210
This is basically the yellow column represents our MN with conditional and permitted uses

1297
01:52:01,210 --> 01:52:06,250
shown with the C and the P accordingly and then the green column is basically all of the uses

1298
01:52:06,250 --> 01:52:09,710
in the M C zoning district either conditional or permitted.

1299
01:52:09,710 --> 01:52:16,330
This table does not represent all of the use comparisons across each of our land use categories.

1300
01:52:16,570 --> 01:52:22,650
This is where there was a disconnect, one district allowed one use versus the other did not.

1301
01:52:22,910 --> 01:52:27,050
And what you will see in this table if you study it, which I understand that it may not be readable.

1302
01:52:27,530 --> 01:52:33,970
There is a far greater number of permitted uses in the CP or in the MC zoning category than there is in the MN.

1303
01:52:33,970 --> 01:52:40,430
And most of the uses that are permitted by right in the MC are higher intensity auto-centric related.

1304
01:52:43,940 --> 01:52:49,980
So, the MNCUP process, which would allow for the auto-centric uses that the applicant desires,

1305
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:55,920
would provide greater development oversight as we talked about during our annexation public hearing.

1306
01:52:56,700 --> 01:53:05,720
A CUP will allow additional conditions to be placed upon the future development of the site in order to mitigate possible land use and traffic impacts,

1307
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,340
which were expressed as concerns by the adjoining

1308
01:53:08,340 --> 01:53:10,240
proper analysis part of the public hearing.

1309
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:17,240
And the CUP process is a more direct end result

1310
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,200
than going through the unknown outcome

1311
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,020
of a county full rezoning to apply basically

1312
01:53:23,020 --> 01:53:25,060
planned development back to the property,

1313
01:53:25,620 --> 01:53:28,780
as it was previously approved in 2004.

1314
01:53:29,940 --> 01:53:32,500
MC zoning would be subject to neighborhood protections,

1315
01:53:32,740 --> 01:53:34,780
which is many of you who've been around long enough,

1316
01:53:34,780 --> 01:53:39,520
that is that deals with our buffering or lighting and other impacts that generally would occur

1317
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:41,080
on a joining residential property.

1318
01:53:41,780 --> 01:53:47,500
However, the traffic impacts could be exempt, dressing traffic impacts could be exempt

1319
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:50,180
based upon the improved in size of the trip generation.

1320
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:56,740
Now, we did identify earlier today, again, as an oversight from what we originally presented

1321
01:53:56,740 --> 01:54:01,900
to you, that we do have use specific standards that relate to drive through uses.

1322
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,780
The trip generation threshold generally with an

1323
01:54:06,780 --> 01:54:08,860
Arcode is at 100 trips in the peak hour.

1324
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:11,740
The use-specific standards, however, that apply

1325
01:54:11,740 --> 01:54:14,380
Specifically to drive through uses, allows for

1326
01:54:14,380 --> 01:54:17,260
the city's traffic engineer to require a traffic

1327
01:54:17,260 --> 01:54:20,960
study even if the 100 threshold is not triggered.

1328
01:54:21,420 --> 01:54:25,000
That is to ensure that we would allow additional

1329
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,220
concerns to be taken into account.

1330
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,880
That would apply in either the MC or the MC

1331
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:38,180
zoning district. So should Council desire to proceed forward with the request that the applicant

1332
01:54:38,180 --> 01:54:43,280
has made, which is MC, there would be the ability through the use specific standards

1333
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:49,780
of a drive through to be able to still require a more thorough investigation of the property

1334
01:54:50,380 --> 01:54:55,140
from a traffic impact perspective. The buffering provisions are going to be the identical between

1335
01:54:55,140 --> 01:54:57,720
Zoning District's MN or M.C.

1336
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:17,720
Water is the only thing that we are currently providing this site today. Electric is by Boone County. Electric, there is a 1992 sewer connection agreement that governs the site's availability or access to city sewer, and within that 1992 agreement, there is no requirement for annexation.

1337
01:55:18,500 --> 01:55:23,720
furthermore, per the 92 agreement, the recurring monthly rate that the user of this site

1338
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:29,800
would be charged is 80% of what we would typically charge a city resident, and that is

1339
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,340
governed by the 92 sewer agreement.

1340
01:55:33,260 --> 01:55:39,580
City public safety and solid waste services would transfer to our responsibility after annexation.

1341
01:55:39,900 --> 01:55:45,740
Currently they are provided to be the county in private hall and then we maintain all of the

1342
01:55:45,740 --> 01:55:47,860
right of way that is currently within the roundabout.

1343
01:55:47,980 --> 01:55:53,080
So it is a city roundabout and a city controlled from that perspective.

1344
01:55:54,020 --> 01:55:57,400
During the Planning Commission's public hearing with this request, there were three residents

1345
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:02,940
that spoke in opposition, and should have been opposition by apologies, expressing concerns

1346
01:56:02,940 --> 01:56:08,560
about the quality of life, traffic impacts in their residential development to the north buffering

1347
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:13,100
and the possibility that improvements may be expanding off the current site.

1348
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:24,080
Based on our review, it does not appear as though there are such improvements, there is a utility easement that breaks basically the development area from the residential development to the north.

1349
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:42,220
Also during the public hearing, the applicants agent as well as design and real estate professionals address the commission providing responses to public concerns as well as the rationale for the desired MC applicants agent is here this evening to provide counterpoint to staff's report this evening.

1350
01:56:42,220 --> 01:56:47,320
The Commissioner has expressed a concern as they discuss this project about MC going north

1351
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:48,120
of Clark Lane.

1352
01:56:48,420 --> 01:56:51,520
There is no MC today that is north of Clark.

1353
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:57,300
All of that is contained to the interstate frontages, and the intensity of the uses

1354
01:56:57,300 --> 01:57:03,400
that will be allowed without general review, more detailed review, in the MC zoning district

1355
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:04,600
versus MN.

1356
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,600
After concluding, their public hearing, the planning and zoning commission recommended

1357
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,940
and denial of the request 5-3 of the permanent MC zoning.

1358
01:57:14,540 --> 01:57:17,140
If you have questions, I'll be more than happy to try to answer them.

1359
01:57:17,500 --> 01:57:20,700
Any questions for staff on this?

1360
01:57:21,020 --> 01:57:21,880
I'm going to go with Jackie.

1361
01:57:23,300 --> 01:57:24,560
Thank you for this information.

1362
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:30,160
Do you know if the MC zoning is denied by Council?

1363
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:34,840
Well, the developer or their applicants come back and request MC?

1364
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,220
I do not know that.

1365
01:57:37,220 --> 01:57:42,400
applicant's agent may be able to explain that to you, though they would be allowed to do so.

1366
01:57:42,900 --> 01:57:47,440
Okay. That's only quite a comment. Yes, questions on this. Yeah, Fira.

1367
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:56,540
Am I an apologies if you, if you've already explained this, am I remembering correctly that the

1368
01:57:56,540 --> 01:58:05,560
the property owner or the person making this request was offered the MN and chose to continue

1369
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:10,660
with MC or am I mixing that up with a different PNZ presentation from the last meeting.

1370
01:58:11,860 --> 01:58:20,900
We did discuss the with the applicant's agent to convert the request to MN prior to publication

1371
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:26,000
of the staff report, the planning and zoning commission did inquire of that as well during

1372
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:31,260
public hearing, but the applicant chose to continue to move forward with the MC request and

1373
01:58:31,260 --> 01:58:34,160
had the Planning Commission vote as it is turned out.

1374
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:36,520
Thank you.

1375
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:37,460
Yep.

1376
01:58:37,460 --> 01:58:38,720
That's the end of it.

1377
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:40,240
Is there zoning?

1378
01:58:40,540 --> 01:58:43,520
Is there screening required with MC zoning?

1379
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:50,300
Yes, there would be given the, given the adjacency of the RM and the county, there would

1380
01:58:50,300 --> 01:58:55,800
be a level three buffer, if I am not incorrect, and what's a level three buffer?

1381
01:58:55,800 --> 01:59:01,480
The level three buffer is a ten foot wide buffer strip with an eight foot tall screening device.

1382
01:59:02,140 --> 01:59:09,300
Light standard heights would be eliminated to 20 feet maximum adjacent to the residential zone property to the north.

1383
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:11,740
Thank you. I knew you would know that information.

1384
01:59:12,620 --> 01:59:13,660
I just leave with code.

1385
01:59:13,940 --> 01:59:14,080
You will.

1386
01:59:14,540 --> 01:59:16,360
Of course you would.

1387
01:59:16,460 --> 01:59:17,020
Yeah Nick.

1388
01:59:19,500 --> 01:59:21,080
You mentioned that.

1389
01:59:21,780 --> 01:59:26,280
You've changed your mind about part of the information you were providing to us before.

1390
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:29,320
that you were incorrect about that.

1391
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:37,360
The staff, I know that the planning and zoning voted against voted to deny this, but staff also recommended that if I'm not mistaken.

1392
01:59:38,020 --> 01:59:45,280
And is there anything that's changed in your mind about that from the staff perspective since you've gotten this other information?

1393
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:57,180
And there is not Mr. Foster staff is still firmly in the camp that we believe MN is a more appropriate transition in this particular area.

1394
01:59:58,660 --> 01:59:59,420
We do not.

1395
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:14,800
Not support commercial development here. We believe, however, it is in the public's best interest, that we have a little bit more of a methodical review of site-related issues, which is what the CUP process would allow.

1396
02:00:16,180 --> 02:00:22,400
MC, while a site plan will be required in a traffic study, can be facilitated.

1397
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:31,280
We believe that it does not necessarily provide the same level of controls as a CUP

1398
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:35,960
would, where we can do a little bit more, we can be a little bit more refined as it relates

1399
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:42,100
to placement of future structures and other aspects associated to the site.

1400
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:46,460
We believe when you look at it from the county's perspective of a plan district, if they

1401
02:00:46,460 --> 02:00:51,900
have to go back through a full reapproval for the plan district, the CP process and the

1402
02:00:51,900 --> 02:00:54,920
MN zoning district is probably still going to be more efficient.

1403
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:56,800
It's more of a direct perceived.

1404
02:00:57,340 --> 02:01:02,440
It's not as direct as MC, but it is more direct than going through the uncertainty of a

1405
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:03,480
rezoning process.

1406
02:01:04,180 --> 02:01:12,640
And so we are not moved based on the new information, even though that does provide some

1407
02:01:13,580 --> 02:01:16,700
solace that we would still have the ability to go to traffic study.

1408
02:01:16,700 --> 02:01:18,440
We still believe MN is a program.

1409
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,800
Any other counsel questions for this?

1410
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:27,080
All right, would anybody from the public wish to speak on bill 24325?

1411
02:01:30,970 --> 02:01:32,230
The magic will happen.

1412
02:01:32,590 --> 02:01:33,350
All right.

1413
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:39,500
The magic will happen.

1414
02:01:45,050 --> 02:01:45,370
All right.

1415
02:01:45,450 --> 02:01:45,950
Good evening.

1416
02:01:46,070 --> 02:01:47,070
Mayor members of the council.

1417
02:01:47,490 --> 02:01:50,150
Caleb Hobbert, attorney at 827 East Broadway.

1418
02:01:50,450 --> 02:01:54,630
And I'm here to not only half of the applicant to ask for your support for MC Zoning.

1419
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:58,290
So to give you a little background about why we're here this evening.

1420
02:01:58,670 --> 02:02:00,210
You can blame the county.

1421
02:02:01,250 --> 02:02:07,230
When we went to explore the possibility of developing this property or rezoning it in the county,

1422
02:02:07,230 --> 02:02:13,990
They suggested pointed out that the city, all of the property on the south side of this intersection is in the city limits.

1423
02:02:14,630 --> 02:02:18,930
So they suggested that the city would have an interest in having this property within the city limits.

1424
02:02:19,690 --> 02:02:23,330
Once that was suggested to us, we look at what commercial zoning districts are available.

1425
02:02:23,850 --> 02:02:27,950
And here in Columbia, we have MC, corridor, commercial or neighborhood commercial.

1426
02:02:28,590 --> 02:02:35,570
And when we look at the intent of those two districts, this site is located at a major intersection along a major roadway.

1427
02:02:35,570 --> 02:02:46,110
MCZoning again is intended to be at sites that have high visibility a lot of automotive uses, so we feel like MC was appropriate.

1428
02:02:47,630 --> 02:02:53,570
When you look at this particular intersection, and everything to the south is owned MC corridor commercial.

1429
02:02:54,270 --> 02:03:00,610
You look at the surrounding uses and what has actually been built out, it is automotive oriented uses.

1430
02:03:00,610 --> 02:03:05,650
When you stand on this property and look to the east, you see a BP gas station, obviously

1431
02:03:05,650 --> 02:03:07,650
drive up fuel pumps.

1432
02:03:09,850 --> 02:03:15,050
Look to the southeast, you see a sonic drive-in fast food restaurant, obviously with

1433
02:03:15,050 --> 02:03:19,270
drive-up menu boards, food service, all automotive oriented.

1434
02:03:20,510 --> 02:03:26,870
You look to the southwest, you see a drive-in club car wash and then in the background, you

1435
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:30,410
can see the McDonald's sign, all of those very automotive oriented.

1436
02:03:30,410 --> 02:03:36,170
So when you look at this particular property, this would be the one site that is not improved

1437
02:03:36,170 --> 02:03:39,110
with an auto oriented type use.

1438
02:03:40,290 --> 02:03:46,070
To our west, you have the shopping center, again, but it's not located directly on this

1439
02:03:46,070 --> 02:03:46,810
roundabout.

1440
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:54,180
Baff's concerns with the MC zoning and some of the questions that came up at the annexation

1441
02:03:54,180 --> 02:03:55,980
hearing we're about transition and buffering.

1442
02:03:56,540 --> 02:04:01,920
You heard Mr. Ziner talk about this property would trigger the most restrictive buffering

1443
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:06,940
that Columbia is adopted and that is a level 3 screen and requires a minimum of a 10-foot

1444
02:04:06,940 --> 02:04:13,100
setback. We put together a diagram that shows we're 134 feet from the nearest residential

1445
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:20,280
structure and the reason for that is this site has a lake, a common lot between it and the

1446
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:26,420
residential structure to the north and then when you transition to this property there are 40 feet

1447
02:04:26,420 --> 02:04:30,600
of drainage and utility easements before you even get into the site.

1448
02:04:31,020 --> 02:04:37,820
So this property, it's exceeds the level three buffering requirement by 10 times.

1449
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:44,320
Additionally, you might recall that in 2017, we adopted neighborhood protection standards.

1450
02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:52,140
And the neighborhood protection standards have this buffering requirement for the reason for the intention of allowing commercial next to residential.

1451
02:04:52,140 --> 02:04:57,340
So, if we were never going to allow commercial next to residential, why did we adopt those

1452
02:04:57,340 --> 02:04:59,380
neighborhood protection standards in the first place?

1453
02:04:59,440 --> 02:04:59,960
We adopted them.

1454
02:05:00,860 --> 02:05:23,600
And we go above and beyond what's required. As far as what the residents to the north would see, that is the existing vegetative buffer between us and the property to the north. The folks of the north will never see what's built on this particular site. Here is standing at the residential property looking south. Again, that's the existing vegetative buffer between these two properties.

1455
02:05:25,620 --> 02:05:28,320
Finally, you know, the elephant in the room is the drive through.

1456
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:33,740
Drive through is really why we're pursuing the MC because the drive through is a bi-ride option.

1457
02:05:34,420 --> 02:05:39,060
If you consider a conditional use requires a site plan, I mean that's the type of zoning

1458
02:05:39,060 --> 02:05:41,760
we've had for the last 20 years and the sites never developed.

1459
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:48,980
We've had a plan zoning that requires site plan and going through additional political processes.

1460
02:05:49,660 --> 02:05:51,080
That's what a conditional use permit is.

1461
02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:58,580
We would have to submit a site plan and go through additional political processes in order to build anything with the drive through on this particular site.

1462
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:04,900
But back in 2017, when we adopted the Unified Development Code, we adopted use specific standards.

1463
02:06:05,620 --> 02:06:08,440
And there are use specific standards for drive-up facilities.

1464
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:15,160
Those include requiring that all sound and light is directed inward, so they don't shine onto the neighbor's property.

1465
02:06:15,780 --> 02:06:18,620
And additionally, the city built in a safeguard.

1466
02:06:19,900 --> 02:06:25,080
any drive-through, the city traffic engineer can require that we produce a traffic study.

1467
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:30,160
If that traffic study says there would be a problem with that drive-through, the city can

1468
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:35,840
require traffic improvements or can deny the request, so there is overview, or oversight.

1469
02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:39,580
It's not like if we get MC, it's just the Wild West, and we get to do whatever we want.

1470
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:46,040
We still have to operate with the plan that the city traffic engineer thinks makes sense.

1471
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:53,160
I'll let John cover some of the traffic counts, but overall we're asking for your support

1472
02:06:53,160 --> 02:06:53,600
on campus.

1473
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:54,900
Thank you.

1474
02:06:54,900 --> 02:06:54,920
Thank you.

1475
02:06:55,880 --> 02:07:01,740
Anyone else from the public wish to speak on Bill 243-25?

1476
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:13,460
My name is John John with offices at 1,000 West Knifeung.

1477
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:16,760
I am the real estate agent for this property.

1478
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:22,120
The reason we are really here is that for 20 years it's sat and done nothing.

1479
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:29,840
About five years ago, the city came to the commercial real estate agents and said,

1480
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:34,020
how can we get more jobs and more retail in the north side of town in the north east

1481
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:35,000
corridor?

1482
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:43,500
There were very little suggestions, truthfully, because most of us look at it and say that houses

1483
02:07:44,900 --> 02:07:47,060
follow retail follows houses.

1484
02:07:48,380 --> 02:07:49,500
Businesses follow houses.

1485
02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:50,800
is the rooftops account.

1486
02:07:52,340 --> 02:07:56,700
But over my many years, I became finally

1487
02:07:56,700 --> 02:07:59,960
to realize that the plan zoning districts

1488
02:07:59,960 --> 02:08:01,620
were holding a lot of districts back.

1489
02:08:01,700 --> 02:08:04,120
I would get inquiries, and people would

1490
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:06,600
look at the thing and say, well, wait a minute.

1491
02:08:06,900 --> 02:08:09,020
Let me go to the planning department and ask them

1492
02:08:09,020 --> 02:08:11,140
if I can have this use.

1493
02:08:11,180 --> 02:08:13,020
And they go, well, you've got to present a plan.

1494
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:14,220
You've got to hire an engineer.

1495
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:15,400
You've got to hire an attorney.

1496
02:08:15,580 --> 02:08:16,780
You've got to spend six months.

1497
02:08:16,780 --> 02:08:19,400
And there we go, let me find another place.

1498
02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:23,760
There was a VA proposal I doubt if we'll ever get it.

1499
02:08:23,860 --> 02:08:27,180
Under certain circumstances, but there was a VA proposal for a lab.

1500
02:08:27,660 --> 02:08:30,500
They came and looked at two places in the Northeast and said,

1501
02:08:30,660 --> 02:08:34,320
yeah, we would like that spot is its own proper way.

1502
02:08:34,340 --> 02:08:37,480
It's well, you'd have to go through planning and zoning,

1503
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,460
city council, all these reviews and do all this.

1504
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,280
We can't submit a bid that way.

1505
02:08:42,300 --> 02:08:45,440
It has to be entitled to do what we need to do.

1506
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:49,420
And that gets down to the residential part, too.

1507
02:08:50,900 --> 02:08:54,640
So this is the last piece I have of, I think,

1508
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:59,340
seven pieces in the Northeast Corridor that I've worked hard

1509
02:08:59,340 --> 02:09:01,920
to get through to the right zoning.

1510
02:09:05,670 --> 02:09:07,810
This intersection is a four lane highway.

1511
02:09:07,810 --> 02:09:10,370
It's designed to be a four lane interchange.

1512
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:14,090
Clark lane is designed out through there to be four lanes.

1513
02:09:17,810 --> 02:09:20,830
The other issue is, what about traffic into the neighborhood?

1514
02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:25,590
If you've ever driven back into that neighborhood, you're not going back there unless you

1515
02:09:25,590 --> 02:09:29,210
live back there, because you can't get back out without knowing how to get back out.

1516
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:33,730
I remember when I was first in real estate, I would turn around in there and be in the last

1517
02:09:33,730 --> 02:09:34,770
for almost forever.

1518
02:09:35,610 --> 02:09:41,490
It's, and the third point that I just want to make a real quick before I go, it's no

1519
02:09:41,490 --> 02:09:45,510
longer a big lot, a big hunk of it was taken off for the roundabout.

1520
02:09:45,510 --> 02:09:53,250
A lot of it is in that buffer zone and there's actually an easement that is maintained by the neighborhoods in that buffer zone

1521
02:09:53,250 --> 02:09:59,770
So it's a very small lot and about the only good use for it is a small coffee shop type drive through

1522
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:13,740
May be a Jimmy John, which I've described through. But anything else is probably never going to happen. And if we have to wait six months, they'll probably find some place else to build. So I appreciate your thoughts on this. And if you've got any questions, I'm still here.

1523
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:20,800
Thank you, John. Does anybody else from the public with to speak on bill 24325? There's something behind you, John.

1524
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:21,360
Sit down.

1525
02:10:27,150 --> 02:10:29,490
I get evening from Steve Spellman,

1526
02:10:29,730 --> 02:10:31,890
a little bit 23-12, Katie Lane,

1527
02:10:32,610 --> 02:10:34,330
and Columbia's blood, beautiful fourth ward.

1528
02:10:35,730 --> 02:10:39,150
I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not the post-property owner.

1529
02:10:39,330 --> 02:10:41,550
I have no financial interest in this project.

1530
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:43,330
Let's never know a couple of the fellows

1531
02:10:43,330 --> 02:10:46,630
speaking about this, but just as a concern,

1532
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:49,050
citizen observations in the back here,

1533
02:10:49,330 --> 02:10:51,910
you know, before they even spoke looking at the maps,

1534
02:10:52,250 --> 02:10:55,190
which I do appreciate the agenda and the maps and stuff.

1535
02:10:55,190 --> 02:10:57,410
I can kind of digest some of that.

1536
02:10:57,510 --> 02:11:01,490
But this is a busy corner, you know, even notice in the pizza

1537
02:11:01,490 --> 02:11:03,850
place and a gas station there.

1538
02:11:04,450 --> 02:11:06,870
And it's kind of, well, what's supposed to go there?

1539
02:11:08,070 --> 02:11:10,170
You know, the everyday average citizen would assume,

1540
02:11:10,610 --> 02:11:13,290
well, that seems like it's part of the city limits.

1541
02:11:13,310 --> 02:11:14,090
Isn't it already?

1542
02:11:14,250 --> 02:11:15,570
I mean, there's all this growth there.

1543
02:11:16,010 --> 02:11:18,050
It's this jagged area, a town, or some,

1544
02:11:18,510 --> 02:11:20,290
officially, county, and some old houses and stuff.

1545
02:11:20,810 --> 02:11:22,790
But the everyday average citizen would assume

1546
02:11:22,790 --> 02:11:24,710
that this is part of the city limits

1547
02:11:24,710 --> 02:11:30,110
at this point. At this point with everything built around it, it is infill, isn't it?

1548
02:11:30,450 --> 02:11:33,850
It was a vacant lot. I don't know what else they're going to do with it. Nobody's

1549
02:11:33,850 --> 02:11:37,850
going to go about a house there. I mean, the houses behind there are in the neighborhood

1550
02:11:37,850 --> 02:11:41,490
but every house like, well, I assume it's probably going to be some kind of business.

1551
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:46,650
And as they said, there's a bunch of rules about it. You know, I'm no lawyer either,

1552
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:51,710
but, you know, if you, I'll skip that part.

1553
02:11:51,710 --> 02:11:56,710
But, you know, the part of the description here that I learned from this is that the county suggested,

1554
02:11:57,530 --> 02:11:59,590
well, look, well, why don't you become part of the city?

1555
02:12:00,090 --> 02:12:01,750
Sounds like you'd want to do this.

1556
02:12:02,270 --> 02:12:05,830
You got a property owner coming here that they want to be part of our town.

1557
02:12:06,890 --> 02:12:09,790
And they want to be under our regulations and so forth.

1558
02:12:10,510 --> 02:12:12,830
That seems like it seems like a decent thing.

1559
02:12:13,770 --> 02:12:19,110
I remember from the budget cycle, or from ready, the regional economic development incorporated,

1560
02:12:19,110 --> 02:12:25,850
there's talk of additional tax revenue generation so they're talk of a store here that might

1561
02:12:25,850 --> 02:12:33,130
generate tax revenue sales tax revenue that seems like a decent thing and just a little

1562
02:12:33,130 --> 02:12:39,470
bit of memory some of you might remember a former city council in Jerry Wade I think he was

1563
02:12:39,470 --> 02:12:46,850
second fourth or fourth yeah and good guy you know I bless his soul and everything we got to know

1564
02:12:46,850 --> 02:12:48,610
each other a little bit.

1565
02:12:48,730 --> 02:12:54,390
And I remember he was at it for something called Smart Growth, which I don't completely understand

1566
02:12:54,390 --> 02:12:55,250
at the time.

1567
02:12:55,610 --> 02:13:02,470
But I remember one thing from that is you want traffic generating facilities to be on your

1568
02:13:02,470 --> 02:13:03,430
busy roads.

1569
02:13:04,330 --> 02:13:08,630
You don't want a traffic generation, you know, like a store or daycare center, he was concerned

1570
02:13:08,630 --> 02:13:12,190
about, at the end of a cold of sack or way off in a residential area.

1571
02:13:12,810 --> 02:13:18,150
Mr. John, I think it was was saying, this is a busy corner, it's designed to do that.

1572
02:13:18,150 --> 02:13:22,750
That's what our infrastructure is built to do, and I think it's good that somebody's

1573
02:13:22,750 --> 02:13:28,610
wanting to be part of our town, wanting to follow our regulations, and wanting to have

1574
02:13:28,610 --> 02:13:30,690
sales to act generation to help our budget.

1575
02:13:30,810 --> 02:13:31,530
Thanks, your time.

1576
02:13:32,210 --> 02:13:32,710
Thanks, Steve.

1577
02:13:33,730 --> 02:13:37,530
Does anybody else from the public wish to speak on bill 24325?

1578
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:51,170
It's a good evening Mayor, Council of Kevin Murphy with a civil group and welcome back

1579
02:13:51,170 --> 02:13:52,130
Clint, let's say.

1580
02:13:53,410 --> 02:13:57,530
Yeah, so again, some of the same things are pointing out.

1581
02:13:57,730 --> 02:14:10,050
The unknown outcomes here is a CUP process, which is covered basically under any other requirements

1582
02:14:10,050 --> 02:14:13,050
to have a drive through.

1583
02:14:14,590 --> 02:14:22,710
But again, you're going to board, again, coming back and you're requesting this and you don't know if you're going to get it or not.

1584
02:14:23,050 --> 02:14:27,490
So if we do accept an end zoning that does not guarantee that we get that.

1585
02:14:28,110 --> 02:14:30,650
We are going to have to follow all the maximum screening requirements.

1586
02:14:30,890 --> 02:14:33,530
We're going to have to follow neighborhood protection requirements.

1587
02:14:33,870 --> 02:14:38,750
And so basically it comes down to, is this property developing the city or does it develop in the county.

1588
02:14:38,750 --> 02:14:46,110
Again, major intersection, a gas station, next door, drive facilities on either quarter across

1589
02:14:46,110 --> 02:14:52,210
the street, directly next door, there's bars and restaurants, and it is quite fitting

1590
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:58,390
with the screening that we already have in the additional screening that we would have

1591
02:14:58,390 --> 02:14:58,990
provide.

1592
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:01,840
It's all in there. Thank you. Thank you.

1593
02:15:05,380 --> 02:15:07,920
Anybody else from the public? Wish to speak.

1594
02:15:10,690 --> 02:15:15,310
I mean, none will come to council comments or council clarifying. Yeah, Jackie.

1595
02:15:16,490 --> 02:15:24,450
Yes, so this is in my ward and it's actually not too far from where I live. So I drive by this location.

1596
02:15:25,070 --> 02:15:27,230
for any match on a daily basis.

1597
02:15:27,610 --> 02:15:30,390
So I'm very familiar with this site.

1598
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:37,190
I can tell you that it is just this empty space that's being

1599
02:15:37,190 --> 02:15:40,450
not utilized with the exception of the month of June

1600
02:15:40,450 --> 02:15:42,390
when there is a firework's tent there.

1601
02:15:43,310 --> 02:15:46,590
So there are probably a lot of residents who would appreciate that

1602
02:15:46,590 --> 02:15:47,530
not being there.

1603
02:15:50,090 --> 02:15:53,450
I appreciate the input and the work on planning and zoning

1604
02:15:53,450 --> 02:16:02,710
from this, but I'm in favor of M.C. I think it's appropriate for this area. There is

1605
02:16:02,710 --> 02:16:10,250
I want to validate the concerns of the traffic, but the roundabout people kind of whip

1606
02:16:10,250 --> 02:16:15,990
through that pretty well. So I'm not concerned about that as much as maybe others would be.

1607
02:16:17,390 --> 02:16:45,870
In just the other, you know, it was mentioned, but Ward 3 is very short on revenue generation and available jobs, places to go, and when I think about about a high school, out in that area, and the possibility of having some kind of drive through, I'm not a coffee drinker, so I don't get it, but I'm sure a lot of people are, and they'd really appreciate what I think about the staff and even the students, if it's developed in that manner, I think they would see that as a real win.

1608
02:16:45,990 --> 02:16:52,590
for word three, so yeah, and this is something I'm in favor of for word three.

1609
02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:55,610
Yep, figure out.

1610
02:16:57,210 --> 02:17:06,330
So this is also a roundabout that I am very familiar with that I utilize quite often and it's very

1611
02:17:06,330 --> 02:17:13,030
true that on that road, if you go straight back, you're going to get stuck into a neighborhood where there's

1612
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:20,470
really an outlet out. However that roundabout serves some major roads and just one direction

1613
02:17:20,470 --> 02:17:27,850
on that roundabout you are going to find multiple day hairs, a fire station, battle high school

1614
02:17:27,850 --> 02:17:35,030
and a major immune doctors office that includes family doctors, OBGYN, mental health practitioners,

1615
02:17:35,530 --> 02:17:42,930
and physical therapists. It's a very high traffic area this roundabout feeds into St. Charles

1616
02:17:42,930 --> 02:17:54,430
road, and I have seen some of the other auto-dense commercial properties where drivers are attempting

1617
02:17:54,430 --> 02:18:03,950
to use back shipping entrances to divert the roundabout and nearly cause accidents directly

1618
02:18:03,950 --> 02:18:11,570
across from this location, so I would have major concerns because there's an equivalent

1619
02:18:11,570 --> 02:18:19,170
access on this property as well in that same spot. So I do have major concerns about safety and

1620
02:18:19,170 --> 02:18:27,790
want to make sure that we are keeping that in mind. And so at this point I do not support the

1621
02:18:27,790 --> 02:18:28,610
MC zoning.

1622
02:18:37,390 --> 02:18:41,890
I'm looking at this request and I'm looking at the roundabout and the history of

1623
02:18:41,890 --> 02:18:48,010
request that I've seen during my time on planning and zoning, and during my time here, and

1624
02:18:48,010 --> 02:18:54,330
the trends in development around the area. I do have a concern about the traffic. I do

1625
02:18:54,330 --> 02:19:04,390
see several auto-centric uses around here. I'm going to say, the gas station,

1626
02:19:09,590 --> 02:19:09,930
that's county

1627
02:19:09,930 --> 02:19:23,070
The things that I see that are auto-centric, I'm not sure would likely be permitted by our

1628
02:19:23,070 --> 02:19:23,730
department.

1629
02:19:25,830 --> 02:19:28,890
And I do want to encourage development.

1630
02:19:28,890 --> 02:19:30,590
I think that's extremely important.

1631
02:19:30,730 --> 02:19:33,210
And I do have a concern that this hasn't been developed.

1632
02:19:33,870 --> 02:19:38,690
I think some of the commentary that we've heard about the present zoning and the future

1633
02:19:38,690 --> 02:19:45,670
processes needed on that parcel lead to some of the reasoning why it's not, why it's not

1634
02:19:45,670 --> 02:19:51,730
being developed because it would need an additional uncertain process through the county.

1635
02:19:54,510 --> 02:19:59,910
I do think it's appropriate for many commercial uses. I think MN covers most

1636
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:09,100
Of the uses they would seek, including drive-thru's, and I do think that council needs to have oversight on drive-thru's.

1637
02:20:09,140 --> 02:20:22,280
When I look at the history of cases that came before me on planning and zoning, including most of them that would have gone to consent on council, and may not have been seen by this body in the same way.

1638
02:20:24,460 --> 02:20:32,160
I can't call very many at all that had an M.C. use of budding, residential.

1639
02:20:32,900 --> 02:20:40,560
It's almost always M.N., and when I think about some of these doctor offices, the OBGYN,

1640
02:20:40,740 --> 02:20:47,180
these are all permitted in M.N., and so are several commercial uses.

1641
02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:59,420
I think that giving it a straight MN zoning if that were sought would still help it to be sold and developed.

1642
02:21:01,260 --> 02:21:06,740
When I look at this area, this area is rapidly changing and rapidly growing.

1643
02:21:07,300 --> 02:21:09,900
I know that it has been installed for a while.

1644
02:21:09,900 --> 02:21:15,160
I still believe that, and then would likely get developed.

1645
02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:26,520
I think it needs certainty in zoning and not necessarily specifically MC zoning.

1646
02:21:28,460 --> 02:21:36,260
I don't support MC on this roundabout location for the traffic constraints.

1647
02:21:36,260 --> 02:21:44,620
I agree with the need for more oversight and careful handling.

1648
02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:49,620
I also don't support it in this location,

1649
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:52,120
abutting the residential.

1650
02:21:53,020 --> 02:22:00,980
I still believe in our screening and our neighborhood protections.

1651
02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:05,100
We have screening and neighborhood protections for MN.

1652
02:22:05,100 --> 02:22:18,360
I still believe in smart growth and nodal development and part of smart growth and nodal development is transitional zoning between

1653
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:24,700
neighborhood residential uses and commercial uses.

1654
02:22:25,680 --> 02:22:30,140
So I think MN is perfectly appropriate in this location.

1655
02:22:30,140 --> 02:22:33,640
I know that's not what it is in front of us.

1656
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:37,480
I hope that you would rethink that reconsider for the future.

1657
02:22:37,940 --> 02:22:41,940
I do not think that MC is appropriate for this location.

1658
02:22:42,620 --> 02:22:49,980
I worry about the future of continuing to make our choices based on surroundings if we're

1659
02:22:49,980 --> 02:22:55,260
making our choices based on non-conformities and then agreeing to them.

1660
02:22:55,260 --> 02:23:03,540
And then the next choice is based on the MC that we gave, because it's a budding, a non-conformity.

1661
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:09,160
So that's where I come from on this one.

1662
02:23:09,420 --> 02:23:09,860
Annick.

1663
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:12,580
I see it all.

1664
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:21,580
I will say that when planning and zoning says denial and staff says denial makes it harder

1665
02:23:21,580 --> 02:23:24,200
for me to say, devote in approval.

1666
02:23:26,260 --> 02:23:29,420
However, I moved by a couple of things here.

1667
02:23:29,500 --> 02:23:37,300
One is, while is the natural buffer that exists on this site, there's a good bit of distance

1668
02:23:37,300 --> 02:23:39,620
between the property line and residential.

1669
02:23:40,400 --> 02:23:44,920
The other is the development of commercial on the northern side of town.

1670
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:52,040
We really need, for this to happen, I have visions of it happening in other places on the

1671
02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:57,580
inside a town. So my tendency is to be supportive of it for those reasons.

1672
02:23:59,060 --> 02:24:06,720
That's anything? I'll just say for my similar, I see all the things and I think it's

1673
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:10,180
to a very your point, right? There are some of those things that you're seeing on the other

1674
02:24:10,180 --> 02:24:14,400
side where that county zoning that happen, which is why the safe guards are not in place.

1675
02:24:14,800 --> 02:24:17,960
ours is different, we're a little bit more strict on doing those things.

1676
02:24:17,960 --> 02:24:24,440
Also say Pat, you mentioned methodical review for placement of future structures is a need

1677
02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:30,000
why we want to do the CUP. But what I see is less than an acre of a site with a lot of easements

1678
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:34,840
and a lot of setbacks requirement. So I feel like we have a lot of restrictions in place as far

1679
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:41,040
as where you could put a structure on this site. And when I think about that, I'm also just thankful.

1680
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:49,720
We have so many historical PUDs, especially in the second and third words, that need to be

1681
02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:53,580
replacing to open zoning so that we can actually see development on it.

1682
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:55,980
And so I'm in favor of this one.

1683
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,980
So I'll go for it as Sheila to please call roll on Bill 2.

1684
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:13,480
243-25. Council Bill 243-25, misbuffalo. Yes. Ms. Carroll? No. Ms. Elwood? No. Ms. Sample? Yes. Mr. Foster? Yes. Ms. Peters? Yes.

1685
02:25:13,940 --> 02:25:23,140
That's as fortitude. All right. Moving on, Sheila, we could please read the items under consent agenda twice and call roll.

1686
02:25:23,140 --> 02:25:37,120
items. On the consent agenda include bills 2.4225.242425.255.24425.245.2525.255.225.255.

1687
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:21,160
28, 25 and 139, 25. Ms. Buffalo. Yes. Ms. Carol. Yes. Ms. Elwood. Yes. Ms. Sample. Yes. Mr. Foster. Yes. Ms. Peters. Yes.

1688
02:26:23,500 --> 02:26:31,500
Moving on, we have no items under new business this evening, so I'll ask Sheila to read the items that are under introduction and first read.

1689
02:26:33,420 --> 02:26:50,080
All bills are introduced by the mayor unless otherwise indicated bills to 5625 to 5725 to 52825 to 52925 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 to 625 for leading.

1690
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:59,280
All right. Now we're on to our reports. So the first one is we had a resignation from the Business Loop Community Improvement District.

1691
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:00,420
we had a membership change.

1692
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:04,820
So if it's a group, I would like to appoint Renee Hall

1693
02:27:04,820 --> 02:27:08,380
to a term ending April 19th, 2000 and in 2007,

1694
02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:12,020
can I have the consent of Council for these appointments?

1695
02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:13,160
Any objection?

1696
02:27:13,940 --> 02:27:14,280
Object.

1697
02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:15,100
All right.

1698
02:27:15,380 --> 02:27:17,040
So Renee Hall will be there.

1699
02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:21,440
And I believe Renee is representing MACC, is that correct?

1700
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:23,560
All right.

1701
02:27:23,660 --> 02:27:28,380
Now moving on to our second and final report of the evening.

1702
02:27:28,380 --> 02:27:32,920
And we're going to talk slow while the Marcus Thomas Brown works his way into the room.

1703
02:27:33,380 --> 02:27:35,780
This is a report from our office of violence prevention.

1704
02:27:36,380 --> 02:27:42,360
This was requested a couple of meetings ago, which works out well for the timing because we've been talking a lot about this.

1705
02:27:42,660 --> 02:27:45,420
So do we have a staff report from the office of violence prevention?

1706
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:48,080
We do have a report.

1707
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:55,200
Good evening, and have a report from the administrator of the office of violence prevention.

1708
02:27:55,200 --> 02:28:00,360
the Marcus Thomas Brown, and so I have slides.

1709
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:04,440
If you do a next button on your computer there, it might come up.

1710
02:28:04,700 --> 02:28:04,700
Oh,

1711
02:28:08,720 --> 02:28:11,640
this might be something that someone in the back, I know,

1712
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:17,690
if you click on,

1713
02:28:36,460 --> 02:28:37,240
I think what

1714
02:28:37,240 --> 02:28:41,760
it might be is, so Marcus, why you, if you want to start doing a kick off, I'm imagining that

1715
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:47,940
it's from the agenda item, if we can pull up the agenda on that computer, his slides are one

1716
02:28:47,940 --> 02:28:50,440
the attachments for this item on the agenda.

1717
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:56,190
So I'll just kick off while we're doing that.

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02:28:56,670 --> 02:29:02,610
The slides give a pretty thing to look at while we talk about a lot of this information.

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02:29:03,250 --> 02:29:09,210
I am excited about this information and live in this world and dive into it quite often.

1720
02:29:09,790 --> 02:29:15,710
And so I don't suppose y'all might have that same enthusiasm, but so I want to give you something to look at.

1721
02:29:16,590 --> 02:29:20,470
So I'll just start out with the Office of Violence Prevention.

1722
02:29:21,390 --> 02:29:24,130
Obviously, we recognize the creation of it,

1723
02:29:24,510 --> 02:29:30,970
and myself being hired into that by the Carlos C. Wood.

1724
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:33,730
And so the first.

1725
02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:56,630
Yep.

1726
02:29:57,290 --> 02:29:58,070
Right there. Yep.

1727
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:24,460
So this shows really just the just a snapshot of what the purpose of an office of

1728
02:30:24,460 --> 02:30:32,500
prevention is. This is, obviously, not a new concept in our nation and in an evidence-based practice

1729
02:30:32,500 --> 02:30:42,200
of seeing impact into areas of violence to off-survice prevention exists in many municipalities.

1730
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:49,140
And so this is the, this graphic shows the, how the off-survice differential works with other entities.

1731
02:30:49,140 --> 02:30:50,880
and so I'll just dive into that.

1732
02:30:50,900 --> 02:30:54,700
The Office of Violence Prevention is focused on coordinating the development, implementation,

1733
02:30:55,300 --> 02:30:59,800
and the evaluation of prevention, intervention, and community enrichment, which

1734
02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:04,900
the community enrichment is full sale when we see transformation 15 to 20 years, right?

1735
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:10,640
That's when we see, we start to see the payoff of that community enrichment by collaborating

1736
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:19,020
with law enforcement, community organizations, which I will refer to as CBOs, community

1737
02:31:19,020 --> 02:31:22,900
federal and other key stakeholders by giving entities a

1738
02:31:22,900 --> 02:31:26,120
philanthropic operations within our orbit.

1739
02:31:26,320 --> 02:31:29,060
And we will continue working to develop strategies that

1740
02:31:29,060 --> 02:31:31,640
reduce violence and promote public safety and well-being.

1741
02:31:32,160 --> 02:31:39,740
So you see tie costs here, which is actually something I borrowed.

1742
02:31:39,820 --> 02:31:43,140
I don't steal, so I borrowed from the recovery community.

1743
02:31:43,780 --> 02:31:47,180
And what we learned from a recovery oriented system

1744
02:31:47,180 --> 02:31:53,480
care is that this same premise overlaps into other ecosystems if you will, and so we have a trauma

1745
02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:59,820
informed community oriented system of care, a holistic wrap around approach to both intervene

1746
02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:05,460
and prevent that is informed by an overarching framework that recognizes the widespread impact

1747
02:32:05,460 --> 02:32:10,860
of trauma and understands how trauma can affect an individual's health, behavior, and overall well-being.

1748
02:32:11,260 --> 02:32:16,200
So the definition of trauma is a deeply distressing or disturbing event that significantly impacts

1749
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:19,340
a person's emotional, psychological, and physical well-being.

1750
02:32:19,520 --> 02:32:23,800
The effects of trauma vary wildly from person to person, but may include emotional distress,

1751
02:32:24,580 --> 02:32:30,600
physical symptoms, cognitive difficulties, behavioral, avoidance, SUD, risk-ease, hazardous

1752
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:33,140
behaviors, and interpersonal relationship dysfunction.

1753
02:32:33,640 --> 02:32:38,960
Those are all, can be caused by trauma.

1754
02:32:38,960 --> 02:32:53,080
And acute, you have acute trauma, chronic, and complex trauma, collaborative efforts, then help develop programs that deal with a trauma informed or a system of care.

1755
02:32:54,760 --> 02:33:05,840
So, what we are tasked with is developing and building ecosystems of change and enrichment that can lead to flourishing, flash driving individually and hopefully communally.

1756
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:20,400
Right, so my job and it's a large one is to be able to impact communities that we can see equitable driving, right, and communities that may not be the case.

1757
02:33:21,020 --> 02:33:30,120
So, or something I also borrowed and I will read this here. I won't read the slides to anybody. Well, yeah, yeah, I can see that. I won't read the slides to anyone.

1758
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:35,640
I'm just going to go off of what I have for the report, but slides again are nice.

1759
02:33:36,380 --> 02:33:40,100
So, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they

1760
02:33:40,100 --> 02:33:42,900
are endowed by their creator with certain unavailable rights.

1761
02:33:43,260 --> 02:33:47,100
That among these are life-librity and a pursuit of happiness, which I turn flourishing.

1762
02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:52,620
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just

1763
02:33:52,620 --> 02:33:57,540
power from the consent of the governed, which comes from the constitution.

1764
02:33:57,540 --> 02:34:02,320
And I can tell you there are communities that are not living in that reality, and my job

1765
02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:06,420
is to help influence and bring change in those communities.

1766
02:34:07,160 --> 02:34:07,720
So, personally,

1767
02:34:09,880 --> 02:34:15,180
I have known 54 individuals who died in Columbia, Missouri due to community

1768
02:34:15,180 --> 02:34:16,420
violence, 54.

1769
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:24,780
And the data I'm going to use for this report is actually qualitative, not quantitative, it's

1770
02:34:24,780 --> 02:34:29,040
personal data that I can tell you these people actually died we have

1771
02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:32,240
documentable proof and all that so if you want that I can get that afterwards

1772
02:34:32,240 --> 02:34:35,140
but 54 individuals who died in Columbia Missouri due to community

1773
02:34:35,140 --> 02:34:41,480
violence. Nine of them from the years 2002 to 2015. Nine of them.

1774
02:34:41,620 --> 02:34:51,380
I started to keep in track in 2015. That's 13 years. 44 of them from 2016 to

1775
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:58,400
24 from 2016 to 2025. That's nine years.

1776
02:34:59,440 --> 02:34:59,840
Half.

1777
02:35:00,140 --> 02:35:07,840
22 of them of the 44 between 2018 and 2020. These are friends and family of mine.

1778
02:35:10,020 --> 02:35:27,640
And so we see the issue of community violence that has occurred. And so in the summer of 2016 there was a meeting called at French Commissioner about this church by pastors, David Ballinger and Pastor Carlos Taylor and Pastor Clyderuffin to intervene in the gun violence.

1779
02:35:28,780 --> 02:35:34,320
Or agency call community faith was born that day, and the likes of Marcus Richardson,

1780
02:35:34,680 --> 02:35:40,320
Jane Williams, Conrad Hake, Andy Griffith, Sophia Smith, Tori Stevens, Amata Harris,

1781
02:35:40,700 --> 02:35:46,320
CJ Tallden, Pad McMerry, John Pringer, and Scott Claybrook were among that group.

1782
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:50,860
The first meetings were hosted a love Columbia that was on business loop at the time, and

1783
02:35:50,860 --> 02:35:55,680
that was the first early meetings, and we began to work within the three identified strategic

1784
02:35:55,680 --> 02:36:01,380
areas, central, east, and north. The reason I bring that up is because I'm not new to the work.

1785
02:36:02,460 --> 02:36:07,080
And the work has been going on, and we've been losing people, but there's been a payoff

1786
02:36:07,080 --> 02:36:14,540
from the work that was started. And so I think, and I don't read the future, but I think Jill

1787
02:36:14,540 --> 02:36:20,720
will be back probably before this council adjourns. But I think the Columbia Police Department

1788
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:27,340
in the in the in the in the nature of things that have happened in the community-based organizations really deserve an applause

1789
02:36:27,340 --> 02:36:29,720
for worth a 22 people

1790
02:36:31,020 --> 02:36:32,620
2018 to 2020

1791
02:36:33,700 --> 02:36:35,660
It's two years

1792
02:36:35,660 --> 02:36:43,120
It lost 22 people to gun violence and I think Jill can talk about the homicide rates currently and they're not 22

1793
02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:50,700
They're not even close and so violence prevention strategies are most effective in communities where residents engagement is high

1794
02:36:50,720 --> 02:36:55,660
and where there's ongoing collaboration among residents, businesses, and other local stakeholders.

1795
02:36:57,020 --> 02:37:01,520
So community-based organizations entities that operate within a specific community or geographical

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02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:05,920
area aiming to address local needs and improve the well-being of its residents.

1797
02:37:06,260 --> 02:37:13,200
These organizations specialize in the micro communal subsets versus the entire macro community.

1798
02:37:13,580 --> 02:37:19,880
This is important because of the various differentiated nuances of micro proponents that contribute

1799
02:37:19,880 --> 02:37:23,500
to the macro issue, but must be distributed individually.

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02:37:23,980 --> 02:37:29,720
It's imperative that CBOs collaborate, but stay in their lane when we talk about mission

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02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:33,320
creep, or the spillover contributes to issues.

1802
02:37:33,880 --> 02:37:40,900
And so what we're also pass with is to define and monitor the problem, identify risk, and

1803
02:37:40,900 --> 02:37:46,420
protect the factors, develop and test preventative strategies, and assure widespread option.

1804
02:37:46,740 --> 02:37:48,120
So we're talking about gap analysis, right?

1805
02:37:48,120 --> 02:37:49,740
We've got to figure out what's going on.

1806
02:37:49,800 --> 02:37:53,460
If everyone's doing the same thing, but we have an issue over here,

1807
02:37:53,480 --> 02:37:56,820
and we've got to figure out how can we entice CBOs and other entities

1808
02:37:56,820 --> 02:37:59,960
to fill that gap so that we're not all focused here

1809
02:37:59,960 --> 02:38:02,160
when we have the issue over here, right?

1810
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:04,020
So that's what this office has tasked with.

1811
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,080
And so then the community-based organizations can be recipients

1812
02:38:07,080 --> 02:38:08,600
of the data that we collect.

1813
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:12,400
And so there's enough of that slide.

1814
02:38:12,780 --> 02:38:15,380
Community engagement, and I'm just going to read the heading

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02:38:15,380 --> 02:38:16,740
see if that's okay.

1816
02:38:18,260 --> 02:38:22,460
Community engagement, violence disruption, and we want to disrupt violence, right?

1817
02:38:22,580 --> 02:38:27,160
Violence is not something that you just jump in the middle of you must disrupt the

1818
02:38:27,160 --> 02:38:33,240
cycle of it. Violence tends to be very cyclical, and this is not, I'll explain that, this

1819
02:38:33,240 --> 02:38:37,640
is not coming out of the Marxist head, I'll explain that later, and I'm not plagiarizing

1820
02:38:37,640 --> 02:38:43,920
so I have references, but violence is not something that just, it's cyclical and you

1821
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:49,020
us disrupted right before you can intervene in it. And so youth engagement is a huge piece

1822
02:38:49,020 --> 02:38:55,660
of that in policy advocacy. As as as Jill's as chief sleuty, so are we in professional

1823
02:38:55,660 --> 02:39:03,440
sitting, I know her as Jill, but she sleuty said, we have to do something about guns, right?

1824
02:39:04,060 --> 02:39:08,560
There's too many guns, right? So that's going to be policy, right? We got to do something

1825
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:13,900
about landlord intended. You go to somebody's places and you want enrichment, but when

1826
02:39:13,900 --> 02:39:20,000
And so when Liz and their doors don't shut to their houses, and they come out and people are

1827
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:23,940
living on top of each other, and the leases ain't really legit, we got to do something

1828
02:39:23,940 --> 02:39:27,860
about that if we want to have community enrichment, because that leads to those are proponents,

1829
02:39:27,940 --> 02:39:28,940
to violence.

1830
02:39:29,440 --> 02:39:30,360
So we'll get into that later.

1831
02:39:30,880 --> 02:39:35,140
So policy advocacy, and there's not a lot we can do, but that's like widespread, right,

1832
02:39:35,380 --> 02:39:35,400
macro.

1833
02:39:35,620 --> 02:39:37,680
That's Jeff City policy advocacy.

1834
02:39:37,680 --> 02:39:44,460
advocacy. So core functions, community coordination, data informed strategies, program development,

1835
02:39:44,740 --> 02:39:50,620
and evaluation, supported, sustainable sustainability and capacity. So in that supported

1836
02:39:50,620 --> 02:39:54,720
sustainability and capacity is not just for the office, that's for community-based organizations

1837
02:39:54,720 --> 02:39:59,540
and entities that are working in the work. Because what we saw in from 2009.

1838
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:05,640
And onward, as you had these entities pop up and start doing good work, but they were not sustainable

1839
02:40:05,640 --> 02:40:09,900
and they would just go away and we would lose all those gains. We would have to restart, recreate

1840
02:40:09,900 --> 02:40:15,860
the wheel. This office is tasked with being able to sustain those and to make sure there's wide spread

1841
02:40:15,860 --> 02:40:21,480
adoption and that that work does not just go underground, but that there's sustaining power so

1842
02:40:21,480 --> 02:40:26,100
that other CBOs can maybe pick that up or the city can sustain for a time to be able to hand

1843
02:40:26,100 --> 02:40:30,040
that off because we're not here to create and do services.

1844
02:40:30,060 --> 02:40:33,660
We're here to sustain those that are doing services in our community.

1845
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:38,800
So we're not competing with those other services there.

1846
02:40:39,020 --> 02:40:43,600
And so the data informed piece there is the initiatives

1847
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:45,840
that have already started in this office.

1848
02:40:45,880 --> 02:40:49,960
And I will go through those while they are data informed.

1849
02:40:50,140 --> 02:40:54,900
We've had to quick change and hit the ground running.

1850
02:40:54,900 --> 02:40:59,880
And we're going to have to even look and evaluate those things that have been started because

1851
02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:04,760
we've kind of did a quick try to do a quick out-to-gate fix when we weren't even able

1852
02:41:04,760 --> 02:41:10,960
to readily evaluate to the standards we would like to measure those initiatives.

1853
02:41:12,140 --> 02:41:14,420
So OVP strategic plan and outlook and timeline.

1854
02:41:14,740 --> 02:41:18,020
So I broke this out when I came into the office with three different phases.

1855
02:41:18,120 --> 02:41:20,220
I have phase one, phase two and phase three.

1856
02:41:20,220 --> 02:41:22,540
And so phase one is assessment and alignment.

1857
02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:26,280
So if anyone's wondering, we're in phase two,

1858
02:41:26,360 --> 02:41:28,840
I've been here 134 days, no one's counting,

1859
02:41:28,940 --> 02:41:29,700
no one's counting, no.

1860
02:41:30,440 --> 02:41:34,280
But it's just, you know, I've been here for a little bit.

1861
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:38,520
And what I can tell you is that each phase

1862
02:41:38,520 --> 02:41:44,640
is designed to build upon itself and we'll go through those.

1863
02:41:45,900 --> 02:41:48,900
So phase one, and I'll pick out some key things here.

1864
02:41:48,900 --> 02:41:56,900
phase one was March 31st. I started it was a Monday, March 31st, and that was orientation.

1865
02:41:58,040 --> 02:42:03,900
And I won't belabor in the process of orientation, but the knees scared me deeply. And so,

1866
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:10,260
I made sure I don't share nothing about what happens at the city. But if anybody did a orientation

1867
02:42:10,260 --> 02:42:15,340
process, you know I'm talking about. So that was, that was the first day. But from March 31st to July

1868
02:42:15,340 --> 02:42:23,840
My initial strategic plan was developed in order to assist and being able to hit the ground running so to speak and learn the process of the city and tandem

1869
02:42:23,840 --> 02:42:33,580
So you'll notice some initiatives engaged in their out-of-sequence, but I I can't say that I recommend the overarching strategy

1870
02:42:33,580 --> 02:42:42,040
But when I came into the office everyone kept asking what are you going to do and and mainly what is the Carlin doing and I'm like

1871
02:42:42,040 --> 02:42:44,300
Okay, well we doing stuff, so we don't come here.

1872
02:42:44,300 --> 02:42:45,440
I'm sorry, I will be about to do.

1873
02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:47,100
And so I have some of that here,

1874
02:42:47,440 --> 02:42:50,160
but I would not recommend another office

1875
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:52,560
of unsprediction to do that,

1876
02:42:52,560 --> 02:42:54,080
but we did, because we're Columbia.

1877
02:42:55,580 --> 02:42:57,940
And we take on our, we take our initiative seriously.

1878
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:00,220
And so, but I'm grateful to everyone

1879
02:43:00,220 --> 02:43:02,400
assisting and educating me on the house

1880
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:05,120
and the lives of city processes from grannicus

1881
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:06,660
and to internet.

1882
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:10,200
Seriously, one of the, I don't think the general populists

1883
02:43:10,200 --> 02:43:17,980
gets to see the giftings and the kindness we have in the city of Columbia and our directors

1884
02:43:17,980 --> 02:43:24,240
and our staff. They have been nothing. Holly, she's a staff member, has been nothing.

1885
02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:29,400
But gracious, Christina, I won't name names, I'm gonna leave somebody out like they, I've made

1886
02:43:29,400 --> 02:43:35,110
some blunders, right? Because I'm coming from a whole different understanding of things and it's been

1887
02:43:35,110 --> 02:43:51,730
fantastic. So hopefully, you know, we appreciate them while we have them. So the current 240 day strategic plan initially runs on a timeline that was seemingly match the starting of the national institute of criminal justice reform local involvement and private development.

1888
02:43:52,450 --> 02:44:00,290
And so you see some of the key initiatives there. So news chapter coaching was the entity that was hired and

1889
02:44:00,290 --> 02:44:07,450
about 2014, 2016, to look at some of the violence trends, I was able to get that document that

1890
02:44:07,450 --> 02:44:13,830
they completed. Thank you, Carolyn Sullivan. And look that over and see, is this still happening today,

1891
02:44:14,170 --> 02:44:17,890
right? Because it's not that we don't have the information, sometimes we forget about the information.

1892
02:44:18,390 --> 02:44:22,470
And so I took that document and was able to look at this strategic area, isn't all that,

1893
02:44:22,530 --> 02:44:27,550
and kind of mirror some of the things we're doing. Internal 101, once I met with every director

1894
02:44:27,550 --> 02:44:34,310
and they were gracious within the current departments with a few collaborations and I'll talk

1895
02:44:34,310 --> 02:44:40,650
about those and access to the stressors map and police call data. So we were able to overlay that.

1896
02:44:40,690 --> 02:44:49,510
So we didn't just pick areas out of the sky. With the old, it's academically old, it's fairly

1897
02:44:49,510 --> 02:44:54,530
new but 2014. Right. So with that data and with the overlays of the stressors and the police

1898
02:44:54,530 --> 02:44:58,990
all data map. We were able to overlay and see areas that we were to impact, right?

1899
02:44:59,350 --> 02:44:59,970
And this lead in game.

1900
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,460
Page partners and stakeholders. Those are another initiatives by the first coming in from the 31st on today. I met with the

1901
02:45:06,460 --> 02:45:12,300
BOOM County O'Reilly's response coalition, Central Missouri recovery coalition, unity in the community, league of women, voters,

1902
02:45:12,520 --> 02:45:18,000
BOOM County Republican women, Central Missouri Republican Council, BOOM County Packaderms, Mule Scanners,

1903
02:45:18,660 --> 02:45:24,940
BOOM County Race, Onward, Moms, the Man Action, Moms Against Drunk Driving, Missouri Foundation for Health, Columbia Public Schools,

1904
02:45:24,940 --> 02:45:27,200
Juvenile Justice Center and Juvenile Office,

1905
02:45:27,500 --> 02:45:29,000
Boone County Community Services Division.

1906
02:45:29,720 --> 02:45:32,020
We must never forget Donna Clayborne,

1907
02:45:32,140 --> 02:45:33,800
I give a shout out, Boone County Coalition

1908
02:45:33,800 --> 02:45:36,020
to Insexual Violence, Southern Christian Leadership

1909
02:45:36,020 --> 02:45:37,700
Conference, Race Matters, Friends,

1910
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:39,860
the NAACP, the Columbia Chapter,

1911
02:45:40,340 --> 02:45:42,120
Como Supreme, Noble Court,

1912
02:45:42,300 --> 02:45:44,440
Neighborhood Association, Boone County Community

1913
02:45:44,440 --> 02:45:46,720
Against Violence, United Community Builders,

1914
02:45:46,740 --> 02:45:47,840
Jesus' House, Columbia.

1915
02:45:48,160 --> 02:45:50,100
They have a lotment there in the first ward

1916
02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:52,620
that they're looking at doing a resource center there.

1917
02:45:52,620 --> 02:45:57,900
of hope, Dream Tree 5, 7, 3 North, Stewart Learning Center, William Guitar, Little Foundation,

1918
02:45:58,220 --> 02:46:01,960
Job Point, Connections to Success, the Rinship Opportunity Center, Fresh Start, so we're

1919
02:46:01,960 --> 02:46:06,960
living into action, reentry housing for a change, turning point, moving forward, so we're

1920
02:46:06,960 --> 02:46:15,360
living, love Columbia, Crime, Stoppers, Neighborhood, to watch the CIT, the district 13 treatment

1921
02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:20,360
court, Boone County Prosecutors, STL Violence Prevention Coalition, that's saying to us,

1922
02:46:20,360 --> 02:46:26,500
for four H. A Ventures Club, National Office of Alliance Prevention Network, Mid-Mazery, Unmet

1923
02:46:26,500 --> 02:46:31,200
Needs Committee. They're out of Jeff City, but they cover Central, habitation and

1924
02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:35,080
powerment and accountability. They're at pre that is actually the heat training that those

1925
02:46:35,080 --> 02:46:39,800
get with treatment court. I'm at the founders for that. These were actual meetings. Some of them

1926
02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:47,780
I had to actually talk to them and give a presentation. I took that data collection in that community

1927
02:46:47,780 --> 02:46:51,860
stakeholder engagement seriously. So those are actually literal meetings and

1928
02:46:51,860 --> 02:46:55,720
people I met with. OVP advisory committee formation, Near East,

1929
02:46:55,840 --> 02:46:57,800
Canadian neighborhood opportunity, community accountability,

1930
02:46:57,960 --> 02:47:03,100
pro council, affectionately known as no cap, was created to me in the

1931
02:47:03,100 --> 02:47:05,660
handover village because of the data that we collected there.

1932
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:10,160
So face to, we are strategy and stakeholder mobilization.

1933
02:47:11,200 --> 02:47:13,780
And that was July 21st to September 26th.

1934
02:47:13,780 --> 02:47:33,180
And it's face to the community mental health for practical community application trainings that was engagement community education on community enrichment social determinants of health adverse childhood experiences and positive childhood experiences as it relates to root causes of community violence because we talked about that trauma and form lens.

1935
02:47:33,180 --> 02:47:40,200
We also did the National Office of Arts Prevention Convenience St. Louis, also went to Pierce County

1936
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:45,120
Washington with the National Association of Counties to focus on youth justice and innovation.

1937
02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:53,620
And then we had the, I cannot say enough about the PMO project management office.

1938
02:47:54,540 --> 02:47:59,320
They're, they're data dashboard that they have been feverishly working on,

1939
02:47:59,320 --> 02:48:02,020
with Shreya, leading that charge, has been phenomenal.

1940
02:48:02,960 --> 02:48:04,980
And I don't just say that because I like the information,

1941
02:48:05,220 --> 02:48:09,860
I was able to actually have Dr. Ruth Abaya,

1942
02:48:10,180 --> 02:48:12,060
which if you don't know who Dr. Ruth Abaya is,

1943
02:48:12,140 --> 02:48:14,220
giant and to work, she is out of Philadelphia.

1944
02:48:14,760 --> 02:48:16,700
She is the senior director of health systems

1945
02:48:16,700 --> 02:48:19,220
and CVI integration at the hobby.

1946
02:48:20,620 --> 02:48:22,820
It's the health advisory violence

1947
02:48:22,820 --> 02:48:25,940
intervention coalition they have there in Philadelphia.

1948
02:48:26,240 --> 02:48:27,180
If you any heard about Philadelphia,

1949
02:48:27,180 --> 02:48:34,320
that number's plummeted. She's the brain child of actually being able to develop KPIs through metrics

1950
02:48:34,320 --> 02:48:39,880
and applying it back to community violence initiatives. And so Dr. Ruth DiBuy was able to look at

1951
02:48:39,880 --> 02:48:46,540
this data thanks to the NOVP. And so was Joseph Mosin, who was out of the Chief Data Analysis

1952
02:48:46,540 --> 02:48:50,600
at a Baltimore. If you haven't seen what's going on Baltimore, phenomenal. And the two things

1953
02:48:50,600 --> 02:48:56,060
they told us to do measure process metrics and use geographic indicators for strategic programming

1954
02:48:56,060 --> 02:48:59,120
and placement, that's exactly what PMO did, right?

1955
02:48:59,360 --> 02:49:02,560
Don't create too many KPIs so that you don't focus,

1956
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:06,120
so that a focus doesn't keep you from your core function.

1957
02:49:06,480 --> 02:49:07,640
And that's when they looked at that,

1958
02:49:07,640 --> 02:49:09,840
they said, hey, this is beyond great.

1959
02:49:10,020 --> 02:49:11,540
How many thousands did you spend on this?

1960
02:49:11,640 --> 02:49:13,320
And I said, well, it was just time,

1961
02:49:13,340 --> 02:49:16,320
because we have a benevolent PMO office.

1962
02:49:17,540 --> 02:49:19,540
So community navigation liaison is for transit,

1963
02:49:19,540 --> 02:49:21,000
there's a RFP out for that.

1964
02:49:21,060 --> 02:49:23,440
I don't know how much I can talk about that,

1965
02:49:23,440 --> 02:49:30,040
But that's an initiative that we're doing through the city for transit through off the

1966
02:49:30,040 --> 02:49:32,160
vice-version in phase three.

1967
02:49:33,970 --> 02:49:34,930
The I asked for a report.

1968
02:49:35,230 --> 02:49:37,530
I mean, look, I'm just, this is I'm just giving them a report.

1969
02:49:38,570 --> 02:49:42,990
So, y'all think this is linked, the other, I'm just giving the report of what's going on so

1970
02:49:42,990 --> 02:49:48,070
that when people want to know when we're talking about the city's focus on violence, we're

1971
02:49:48,070 --> 02:49:49,250
not playing games.

1972
02:49:50,030 --> 02:49:54,510
We are focused, and I could tell you, ask my wife and ask my film, we're not playing games

1973
02:49:54,510 --> 02:49:59,910
Because we understand that this affects people deeply and so we want to make

1974
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:07,660
Sure, we're able to adequately and efficiently and effectively address root causes so that we can actually solve

1975
02:50:08,300 --> 02:50:16,140
community violence, not playcated. And so phase 3 is 131 days, 240 days, right? We're in the middle of phase 3.

1976
02:50:16,220 --> 02:50:26,040
I'm going to focus at phase 2, we're in the middle phase 3. September 29th, February 27th, it's phase 3. And so phase 3, we can look forward to and we're in the midst of

1977
02:50:26,040 --> 02:50:29,660
is the National Institute of Criminal Justice Reform.

1978
02:50:30,680 --> 02:50:33,800
We are in talks of the contract, as we speak,

1979
02:50:34,300 --> 02:50:35,400
to solidify things.

1980
02:50:35,840 --> 02:50:37,960
There was a contract drawn up.

1981
02:50:37,960 --> 02:50:41,420
I don't know how Mr. C would was doing this,

1982
02:50:41,460 --> 02:50:44,140
but he was trying to work this office

1983
02:50:44,140 --> 02:50:49,700
and be the city manager, Kudos, to trying to do that.

1984
02:50:49,700 --> 02:50:51,960
But there was a contract in place with them

1985
02:50:51,960 --> 02:50:54,340
before it predated my existence in the office.

1986
02:50:54,600 --> 02:50:55,900
So you can imagine when I came in,

1987
02:50:55,900 --> 02:50:58,580
contract did not fit the landscape of what we're doing.

1988
02:50:58,760 --> 02:51:05,800
So I had to go back to NICJR and read a just what's going on in the landscape.

1989
02:51:06,120 --> 02:51:11,020
And so in that readjustment, we're looking at a violence reduction landscape analysis and

1990
02:51:11,020 --> 02:51:17,460
a gun violence problem analysis plus a violence reduction strategic plan development and support.

1991
02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:23,760
So they were going to create a strategic plan, but the director there, Shantay, Jackson said,

1992
02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:25,440
Hey, you have a strategic plan.

1993
02:51:25,720 --> 02:51:28,160
How about we just help develop further

1994
02:51:28,160 --> 02:51:32,080
the strategic plan throughout the 240 days onward?

1995
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:35,020
And we bring support in that, as we do these other analysis.

1996
02:51:35,300 --> 02:51:39,040
The reason for the analysis is because we need to clearly

1997
02:51:39,040 --> 02:51:41,640
understand so that we know we're clearly the gap

1998
02:51:41,640 --> 02:51:45,000
side because you can imagine, if 10 to 15 years is the payoff,

1999
02:51:45,200 --> 02:51:47,320
we want to make sure in your six and seven,

2000
02:51:47,420 --> 02:51:49,920
we're actually doing from year one that's going to give us

2001
02:51:49,920 --> 02:51:51,980
the payoff to 15, right?

2002
02:51:51,980 --> 02:52:00,020
And so that's what we're asking them to come in and do from us from an objective and an evidence-based peer-review lens.

2003
02:52:00,880 --> 02:52:06,940
And so, then there's another initiative we're talking to the bullet related injury clinic.

2004
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:11,360
The clinic in St. Louis, if you don't know what brick is looking up, it is fantastic.

2005
02:52:11,540 --> 02:52:12,820
They want to come to Columbia.

2006
02:52:13,020 --> 02:52:15,800
I think we have an appetite for this kind of innovation.

2007
02:52:15,800 --> 02:52:22,500
They don't only do the wellness of removing a bullet out of bullet related industry, but they also do workforce develop

2008
02:52:22,500 --> 02:52:27,660
Upwork mobility and they affect the whole community and they are interested in and coming here

2009
02:52:27,660 --> 02:52:31,840
We will see how that goes y'all can hold me accountable. So future growth and this is

2010
02:52:32,900 --> 02:52:34,820
down to the end here

2011
02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:38,480
Evidence based practices no one really cares about that

2012
02:52:39,740 --> 02:52:44,660
OVP evidence, but I'm being facetious. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's late. It's late. So cognitive intervention

2013
02:52:44,660 --> 02:52:46,880
and obviously we have community mental health

2014
02:52:46,880 --> 02:52:48,920
for practical, community application trains,

2015
02:52:49,300 --> 02:52:51,340
the council graciously signed off on that.

2016
02:52:51,520 --> 02:52:53,380
A focus deterrence, and this is,

2017
02:52:53,420 --> 02:52:54,660
so community navigational liaison

2018
02:52:54,660 --> 02:52:55,620
who's talking about which transit,

2019
02:52:56,020 --> 02:52:58,420
that is at aspect, but that's not full focus deterrence.

2020
02:52:58,440 --> 02:53:00,780
That's the partnership with law enforcement

2021
02:53:00,780 --> 02:53:05,940
and that chief sleudy and deputy chief Stevens,

2022
02:53:07,080 --> 02:53:12,720
and as we collaborate, there's fuller aspects

2023
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:14,180
to focus deterrence.

2024
02:53:14,180 --> 02:53:19,740
That's just the jump that we are able to do without, you know, a lot of research into that as we

2025
02:53:19,740 --> 02:53:24,440
wanted to hit the ground runny. The neighborhood base outreach and investment. And that's obviously

2026
02:53:24,440 --> 02:53:29,540
our no-cap groups or no-cap pro councils, excuse me, then our groups, they have their

2027
02:53:29,540 --> 02:53:35,060
authority. And they will tell you that too. Come to a meeting. And so, measuring success, keep

2028
02:53:35,060 --> 02:53:37,820
performance indicators are there.

2029
02:53:38,180 --> 02:53:41,180
So for future growth and capacity building,

2030
02:53:41,900 --> 02:53:43,420
it's a loan office.

2031
02:53:44,320 --> 02:53:49,540
As I talk with the NICJR and other offices,

2032
02:53:49,880 --> 02:53:52,820
depending on how we decide to move forward

2033
02:53:52,820 --> 02:53:57,980
is what our capacity needs will line out.

2034
02:53:58,460 --> 02:54:00,920
So two staffing positions in the office of ours prevention

2035
02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:06,760
And by fiscal year, 2027 would not be just way out there.

2036
02:54:08,060 --> 02:54:15,000
And the NICJR recommends comms and data, but because of our collaboration in Columbia

2037
02:54:15,000 --> 02:54:21,440
and y'all are truly special, I can tell you the community connectors, Department of Diversity

2038
02:54:21,440 --> 02:54:28,260
and Equity, PMO, Sustainability, Neighborhood Services, Parks and Rec, PHHS, Police, Department

2039
02:54:28,260 --> 02:54:34,300
and public works. The collaboration has been just phenomenal and I've been in places where people

2040
02:54:34,300 --> 02:54:39,820
wanted to have their five of them. That is not here. That is not at the city of Columbia.

2041
02:54:40,580 --> 02:54:44,320
In my experience, I don't know if others may experience something else. So community violence

2042
02:54:44,320 --> 02:54:55,620
intervention and continuity coordinator is what is a staff position that would actually

2043
02:54:55,620 --> 02:54:59,980
and bolster that offerings to serve the gap in the making.

2044
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:29,800
Make sure they're still in orbit, because even these other agencies and community-based organizations can get sidetracked and need to help to come back to understand, okay, this is what we're doing. How can we help you and what's going on. Oh, don't do that because this group's doing it. Let's collaborate. That's a full time work right there at all the meetings. They're meeting with these organizations. So that would be one position. And then the other would be something as a community violence specialist, the community violence interruptors, those who are out who know the landscape,

2045
02:55:29,800 --> 02:55:36,260
know the people linking intervene, right? And turn a fist fight to keep it a fist fight

2046
02:55:36,260 --> 02:55:42,120
and not a gun fight, right? Or to remove it and make sure that people are dispersed. So that's

2047
02:55:42,120 --> 02:55:45,690
that would be another position that we see the office of our Christians have across the

2048
02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:53,920
across the nation. And then findings, this is last point here, references, and I'll leave it

2049
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:59,220
in my thank you. Columbia's special, but it's not unique. Meaning we can take successful initiatives

2050
02:55:59,220 --> 02:56:03,460
from other municipalities with similar challenges and employed them.

2051
02:56:03,980 --> 02:56:06,500
How do we support each other while holding each other accountable?

2052
02:56:07,540 --> 02:56:11,300
We want this if we have a growth mindset and a focus on excellence.

2053
02:56:12,340 --> 02:56:15,120
Evidence-based peer reviewed and data informed.

2054
02:56:15,820 --> 02:56:20,200
And as this says, when I as replace what we even illness becomes well, this and we all have

2055
02:56:20,200 --> 02:56:21,200
a part to play in this.

2056
02:56:21,320 --> 02:56:24,000
So thank you, Council for the time for this report.

2057
02:56:24,880 --> 02:56:25,920
Thank you, Demarcus.

2058
02:56:25,920 --> 02:56:29,640
If you're okay, are there any questions from Council for this?

2059
02:56:29,720 --> 02:56:31,620
Otherwise, we might do follow-up later.

2060
02:56:32,500 --> 02:56:32,840
Yeah, Jackie.

2061
02:56:33,720 --> 02:56:34,200
Thank you.

2062
02:56:34,700 --> 02:56:38,240
For your report, I know this came after a request that I made, so I appreciate your

2063
02:56:38,240 --> 02:56:38,480
time.

2064
02:56:38,920 --> 02:56:43,840
And I also just want to comment, I'm sorry for the trauma that you've experienced in your

2065
02:56:43,840 --> 02:56:49,340
life, and I commend you for turning that trauma into working proactively to try to protect

2066
02:56:49,340 --> 02:56:51,480
other people from having the same experiences.

2067
02:56:52,480 --> 02:56:53,900
So I'm glad you're here.

2068
02:56:54,320 --> 02:56:54,880
Thank you.

2069
02:56:54,880 --> 02:56:58,700
And I did just want to circle back around to discussions

2070
02:56:58,700 --> 02:57:01,120
we'd hide when we were talking about the budget

2071
02:57:01,120 --> 02:57:04,860
and talking about creating a position for this office.

2072
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:10,360
And I still very much feel that we should fast-track that.

2073
02:57:10,800 --> 02:57:14,980
Instead of waiting the usual kind of starting

2074
02:57:14,980 --> 02:57:17,100
the job description in January process,

2075
02:57:17,240 --> 02:57:19,040
which I believe is what we talked about the last time.

2076
02:57:19,700 --> 02:57:22,740
So I guess, to Carl and it's a question I'm asking you,

2077
02:57:22,740 --> 02:57:31,420
Is there a precedent, can Council say, let's make this a priority to create this job position at this point?

2078
02:57:31,980 --> 02:57:39,440
I think the, um, yes she can. The hard part is we have to understand exactly what the job is going to be able to do.

2079
02:57:39,820 --> 02:57:46,800
So we can understand exactly what pay range would fit in and so build not that job description takes a little is more nuance.

2080
02:57:46,800 --> 02:58:04,140
I think one of the things that one talking to the markets I think ideally would be, I think would be better suited if we can get into some of the work with the strategic plan process to kind of help us understand exactly what we're looking at hiring for and then we can start building that out.

2081
02:58:04,140 --> 02:58:15,360
But so the question of what will be budget for I think that's the magic number we have to figure out exactly what that is and so we have to do a little bit more work to say exactly what that

2082
02:58:15,360 --> 02:58:24,320
Sully range will be and then we can come back to the council and say okay here's a salary range that we need in order to fill these positions and so I would say

2083
02:58:24,960 --> 02:58:29,340
Let us do a little work and then we can probably bring something back

2084
02:58:30,640 --> 02:58:33,380
Well, let me work with remarks to see exactly a time when I'm

2085
02:58:33,380 --> 02:58:34,220
predicting that.

2086
02:58:34,220 --> 02:58:35,720
Yeah, that was going to be my next question.

2087
02:58:35,760 --> 02:58:39,200
I think ideally what he would like, not speaking for,

2088
02:58:39,360 --> 02:58:40,660
but I think when we had our conversation,

2089
02:58:41,260 --> 02:58:44,360
we'd like to start looking at positions by 2022.

2090
02:58:45,480 --> 02:58:48,040
So fill in those positions for the 26 budget is important.

2091
02:58:48,880 --> 02:58:50,220
And so that would be our goal.

2092
02:58:50,640 --> 02:58:52,640
And so it would go into the next fiscal year,

2093
02:58:53,300 --> 02:58:56,160
but we can try to figure out exactly when and where.

2094
02:58:56,740 --> 02:59:03,440
So, just to clarify, I heard an mention to positions for fiscal year 2027, so that's your vision as well.

2095
02:59:03,820 --> 02:59:11,300
Well, I think yes, I was talking about what he's looking for and talking about other, because we've had, like,

2096
02:59:11,300 --> 02:59:16,260
when we're in South Carolina, we had a conversation with the person who's running their office and looking at their staffing numbers.

2097
02:59:16,660 --> 02:59:19,880
And that kind of helps us kind of get a look exactly what they're working on.

2098
02:59:19,880 --> 02:59:23,020
And so we had a program that they talked about,

2099
02:59:23,120 --> 02:59:26,840
which was a young men's, young men's united.

2100
02:59:26,940 --> 02:59:29,380
Young men's united, and it was an awesome program.

2101
02:59:30,040 --> 02:59:34,080
But we're going to need staff in order to help make sure we facilitate those programs.

2102
02:59:34,760 --> 02:59:37,200
And so, yes, we do understand there's a need for staffing.

2103
02:59:37,620 --> 02:59:40,340
It's understanding exactly what those priorities are.

2104
02:59:40,540 --> 02:59:41,860
So that's something we can work on.

2105
02:59:42,460 --> 02:59:44,520
And so it's just, no, we're going to not those processes.

2106
02:59:45,340 --> 02:59:51,360
So I'm hearing we won't have a timeline on potential job description because you guys need to

2107
02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:52,860
put your heads together and figure that out.

2108
02:59:53,900 --> 02:59:56,440
So do we have a timeline on when you'll be presenting the timeline?

2109
02:59:57,800 --> 02:59:59,980
I think it kind of flows.

2110
03:00:00,270 --> 03:00:10,250
We're talking about going back to Kathy. When we look at how we do for our new job, how we do for job processes. And so we can fast track system and put this kind of ahead of some of the other ones.

2111
03:00:10,550 --> 03:00:16,210
Because the Department of Justice haven't said, okay, here's the positions that we want to start looking at. So we can start that process.

2112
03:00:17,210 --> 03:00:21,690
Let me talk to Kathy. Get exact time frame before I promise something that I can't deliver on.

2113
03:00:22,090 --> 03:00:26,430
Okay, just now I'm going to, I'm going to be asking about it. Well, all right. Thank you.

2114
03:00:26,670 --> 03:00:28,970
Any other council questions on this one? Yeah, Valerie.

2115
03:00:30,380 --> 03:00:34,200
I'm not sure that I have any questions.

2116
03:00:34,400 --> 03:00:38,380
I'm not sure that I can live with delay on this,

2117
03:00:39,200 --> 03:00:43,280
and I just want to express a level of urgency

2118
03:00:43,280 --> 03:00:46,120
that I'm sure everyone already feels.

2119
03:00:50,170 --> 03:00:52,110
Any other council comments for this?

2120
03:00:52,370 --> 03:00:56,130
Well, the market's I think I know I speak for a lot of us,

2121
03:00:56,290 --> 03:00:58,670
but I think we pick the right person for the job.

2122
03:00:58,770 --> 03:01:00,730
Your passion for this is obviously felt.

2123
03:01:00,730 --> 03:01:06,610
and so, thank you for this and for connecting with your peers across the nation so that you are borrowing

2124
03:01:07,270 --> 03:01:11,730
best practices that will work for us, but also within our community. So thank you. Thank you.

2125
03:01:12,770 --> 03:01:17,630
All right, would anyone from the public, now up to the general comments of the public with anyone from the

2126
03:01:17,630 --> 03:01:18,750
public wish to speak?

2127
03:01:24,780 --> 03:01:35,920
Good evening. I'm Danny from the First Board. I was suddenly reminded of a quote and I

2128
03:01:35,920 --> 03:01:38,040
One thing the government doesn't do.

2129
03:01:38,560 --> 03:01:39,340
Crime cares.

2130
03:01:40,020 --> 03:01:40,880
Crime is grassroots.

2131
03:01:41,560 --> 03:01:43,080
Crime looks for the young kid

2132
03:01:43,080 --> 03:01:45,640
who needs support and electing hand.

2133
03:01:46,160 --> 03:01:48,560
Crime offers internship programs

2134
03:01:48,560 --> 03:01:52,020
and part-time jobs and opportunities for advancement.

2135
03:01:53,060 --> 03:01:55,140
Crime gets involved in the community.

2136
03:01:55,680 --> 03:01:57,520
Crime doesn't discriminate.

2137
03:01:58,500 --> 03:02:00,060
Trevor Noah, born a crime.

2138
03:02:01,320 --> 03:02:02,860
To put in another way,

2139
03:02:03,480 --> 03:02:09,780
crime doesn't pay when the government invests in its community when it engages with its

2140
03:02:09,780 --> 03:02:10,360
people.

2141
03:02:12,990 --> 03:02:19,150
I am very happy that we are getting more involved with other ways of investing in our

2142
03:02:19,150 --> 03:02:24,270
community that isn't just approved force and harsh law because I think based on the numbers we've

2143
03:02:24,270 --> 03:02:25,810
heard it's not working.

2144
03:02:28,330 --> 03:02:33,670
I do hope that when we do move forward that we keep this in mind that

2145
03:02:33,670 --> 03:02:39,350
If we want to diminish crime and violence, we have to make investments.

2146
03:02:40,610 --> 03:02:45,090
That said, it's better for people to shoot with cameras than it is with guns.

2147
03:02:45,310 --> 03:02:52,830
So we have to put funding in programs and internships and businesses that provide opportunities

2148
03:02:53,360 --> 03:02:56,090
and advancements especially when it comes to our youth.

2149
03:02:58,360 --> 03:03:00,020
We do need to build more infrastructures.

2150
03:03:00,040 --> 03:03:03,520
We need to have more reliable, livable streets.

2151
03:03:04,160 --> 03:03:12,720
it does cost and it does rubble some feathers, but it is so necessary right now and I'm glad

2152
03:03:12,720 --> 03:03:16,680
to see some improvement along with finally talking about the guns.

2153
03:03:18,760 --> 03:03:19,500
I'm very happy to hear

2154
03:03:19,500 --> 03:03:25,520
this, but I do think we need a lot more work to be done and I want us to remind ourselves

2155
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:32,240
that crime right now fills in the gaps when the government lacks. Thank you.

2156
03:03:33,970 --> 03:03:36,490
Would anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2157
03:03:44,280 --> 03:03:44,320
All right.

2158
03:03:44,540 --> 03:03:46,420
By doing my name is Devin Battle.

2159
03:03:47,340 --> 03:03:48,940
I'm a native from St. Louis.

2160
03:03:49,160 --> 03:03:49,740
I came to Columbia.

2161
03:03:50,060 --> 03:03:52,560
Maybe about seven years ago.

2162
03:03:53,880 --> 03:03:55,100
Grandma, the lyrics her.

2163
03:03:55,120 --> 03:03:56,600
I have a lot of family that lives her.

2164
03:03:56,660 --> 03:03:57,840
And they love this town.

2165
03:03:58,380 --> 03:03:58,900
They've been here.

2166
03:03:59,020 --> 03:03:59,740
They haven't left.

2167
03:04:00,360 --> 03:04:02,760
What I really want to say is I'm

2168
03:04:02,760 --> 03:04:06,160
I agree with Slady that said about,

2169
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:08,680
you know, just getting, you know,

2170
03:04:08,680 --> 03:04:11,100
getting to it, you know, not waiting on it,

2171
03:04:11,200 --> 03:04:15,720
you know, just kind of lulligating because these people are sick.

2172
03:04:15,900 --> 03:04:21,480
You are like, it's not just, they're killing, you know, yeah,

2173
03:04:21,740 --> 03:04:23,820
that's the big, that's the big root of it,

2174
03:04:23,880 --> 03:04:25,740
but it's a deeper root going on.

2175
03:04:26,080 --> 03:04:30,320
And it starts with trauma, like I say, I compensate Lewis,

2176
03:04:30,820 --> 03:04:32,960
and a lot of the things that are happening here

2177
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:36,580
have been happening there a long time, you know,

2178
03:04:36,580 --> 03:04:44,560
grew up in certain areas where you know that was a normal you know and if I don't want this to

2179
03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:51,900
become like normal I have to like really dig deep down right now and get to the root of what's

2180
03:04:51,900 --> 03:04:57,000
really going on with these people these kids these you know people that are you know

2181
03:04:57,000 --> 03:04:59,880
many of these crimes because it's all, it's, it's metal.

2182
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:08,340
There are mentally disturbed, and it's not going to get any better if we don't tackle the mental

2183
03:05:08,340 --> 03:05:18,980
aspect of affairs. I know you all have a rail and a couple more compass health to target those things,

2184
03:05:19,840 --> 03:05:27,260
but these people are coming from a place where they don't have nobody to really key in on these

2185
03:05:27,260 --> 03:05:32,780
things that's going on, like, and I'm one of them, you know, PTSD, you know, trauma,

2186
03:05:33,500 --> 03:05:39,980
growing up, seeing things, you know, just, it's a lot, you know, so that's why I say,

2187
03:05:40,320 --> 03:05:45,900
like, if I really, you know, want to key in, what's really going on in this city and

2188
03:05:45,900 --> 03:05:51,000
help, you know, better these situations that's going on, yeah, I got a really key

2189
03:05:51,000 --> 03:05:55,180
know that aspect first. So thank you.

2190
03:05:55,320 --> 03:05:57,360
Thank you.

2191
03:05:57,420 --> 03:05:59,220
Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2192
03:06:06,090 --> 03:06:07,470
Tracy Wilson, click camp.

2193
03:06:11,100 --> 03:06:15,620
I was thinking about my daughter who graduated from high school when I think 2016.

2194
03:06:16,960 --> 03:06:29,780
And I wrote down all the names of students that she went to school with

2195
03:06:31,180 --> 03:06:40,180
like on and things like that and so yeah root causes from social issues but also we have some

2196
03:06:40,180 --> 03:06:46,160
deep trauma in this town from environmental choices that we chose through urban renewal which

2197
03:06:46,160 --> 03:06:56,880
has created I think a serial decision not to invest in certain places in spaces in our town and I see

2198
03:06:56,880 --> 03:07:02,000
those young people in our schools and they shouldn't kill each other because they don't

2199
03:07:02,000 --> 03:07:07,820
feel there's a reason for living. They don't care about dying. And you don't just get that

2200
03:07:07,820 --> 03:07:12,140
way because you're born that way, you get that way because you're born into circumstances where

2201
03:07:12,140 --> 03:07:17,520
you don't have any hope. I've brought this book up before it's called a peculiar and

2202
03:07:17,520 --> 03:07:24,960
difference, the neglected toll of violence on black Americans, by L.A. at Curvey, great book.

2203
03:07:25,480 --> 03:07:30,780
But it talks about what happens when we don't invest in people, and we put land first,

2204
03:07:30,820 --> 03:07:33,320
and we put property first, and we don't put people first.

2205
03:07:34,280 --> 03:07:38,020
So my years seem a little bit when people come up and say, well, you're going to take a piece

2206
03:07:38,020 --> 03:07:43,560
of my driveway or something like that, not that that's not important, but what is it

2207
03:07:43,560 --> 03:07:46,260
for us to develop practices as we will put people first.

2208
03:07:47,200 --> 03:07:49,760
So, if DEI is important to us, that's a people first practice.

2209
03:07:50,360 --> 03:07:52,540
It shouldn't take years and years for us to get it together.

2210
03:07:53,180 --> 03:07:56,420
If we're going to have a strategic plan, we need to have measurable goals

2211
03:07:56,420 --> 03:08:00,080
that align with DEI, that align with our actions

2212
03:08:00,080 --> 03:08:02,480
to intervene in violence.

2213
03:08:02,600 --> 03:08:03,960
These things all run together.

2214
03:08:04,880 --> 03:08:11,060
I understand from what Mark was saying that it's a long-term plan.

2215
03:08:11,580 --> 03:08:16,440
But I think in the short one, we need to work on our mindset and our mindset is we really

2216
03:08:16,440 --> 03:08:18,460
have to have a deeper understanding about equity.

2217
03:08:18,660 --> 03:08:22,460
I know in the current strategic plan, this is everybody's going to know how to define equity.

2218
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:24,720
And I don't know how you measure that.

2219
03:08:24,960 --> 03:08:26,580
That's one of my problems with the strategic plan.

2220
03:08:26,820 --> 03:08:31,720
So what I would say is one of the things we have to do is a whole society is think about equity

2221
03:08:31,720 --> 03:08:38,580
and what it means and what the challenges we are on the gaps that Mark has talked about, what

2222
03:08:38,580 --> 03:08:39,600
are those gaps.

2223
03:08:39,600 --> 03:08:45,120
And what are ways we can think about filling them now in the immediate year by just

2224
03:08:45,120 --> 03:08:46,540
stuff's going to come up again.

2225
03:08:47,300 --> 03:08:52,280
And so the challenges will you really pay attention to those or will you kick the can?

2226
03:08:52,620 --> 03:08:53,000
Good night.

2227
03:08:54,180 --> 03:08:56,160
Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2228
03:09:01,150 --> 03:09:02,630
Generalised Ward 2.

2229
03:09:04,520 --> 03:09:10,000
President Choi came and brought some things to our attention this last week.

2230
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:14,780
And it showed its frustration with inaction.

2231
03:09:16,060 --> 03:09:18,500
And that inaction created action.

2232
03:09:19,900 --> 03:09:23,640
And I think what we need to see is an opportunity.

2233
03:09:25,120 --> 03:09:29,080
I think what happened was it created something

2234
03:09:29,080 --> 03:09:31,540
that was disappointing.

2235
03:09:32,340 --> 03:09:34,700
We had a chance to get ahead of it.

2236
03:09:34,920 --> 03:09:39,020
We had a chance to step up and show leadership.

2237
03:09:39,020 --> 03:09:49,440
I think we need to say hey we have time now to still do that. President Choi is a great leader in this town,

2238
03:09:49,700 --> 03:09:59,220
but he's not running our city. At this point I think it'd be great to see a combined effort by our mayor, our city manager.

2239
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:10,940
Police Chief coming together and coming out in front of this issue. The other thing I'd like to see is I saw a talk about forming another task force.

2240
03:10:11,540 --> 03:10:20,960
Task force is sound good on the surface, but again it's another chance to just get together talk about issues and do nothing.

2241
03:10:21,700 --> 03:10:28,100
Back in 2014, we had a task force. They had a 30-page report. I got, sorry.

2242
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:36,260
Some of the information right here, and I had a chance to talk with one of the council members, Jackie Sample.

2243
03:10:37,380 --> 03:10:46,100
And we had a great conversation about, there's a great number of things that are actionable in the 2014 Task Force.

2244
03:10:46,100 --> 03:10:48,980
Let's not reinvent the wheel.

2245
03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:52,680
Let's dust off the 2014 task force.

2246
03:10:53,180 --> 03:10:54,180
Let's get together.

2247
03:10:54,580 --> 03:10:57,560
Now, if you want to get community leaders together,

2248
03:10:57,940 --> 03:11:02,200
which I'd love to be one, because I run a restaurant

2249
03:11:02,200 --> 03:11:05,700
downtown that my son, Thursday Friday Saturday night,

2250
03:11:06,300 --> 03:11:09,240
he closes there, leaves the place between three and four

2251
03:11:09,240 --> 03:11:09,720
in the morning.

2252
03:11:10,340 --> 03:11:13,580
Every day, Thursday Friday Saturdays, they're shot fired.

2253
03:11:13,580 --> 03:11:18,400
every day he has to deal with that, every day I worry if he's going to come home.

2254
03:11:19,340 --> 03:11:26,680
So there's a lot of people that are concerned, but I don't think we need to do new things.

2255
03:11:27,020 --> 03:11:29,360
I think we need to do the things that people have researched.

2256
03:11:30,020 --> 03:11:32,980
I think we need to maybe get the community together.

2257
03:11:33,320 --> 03:11:36,740
And I think we have an opportunity here to bring everyone together,

2258
03:11:36,740 --> 03:11:45,300
But Ivy allows, out to the side, we don't need to be Republican, Democrat, progressive, conservative, black, white.

2259
03:11:45,800 --> 03:11:50,460
We need to come together as Columbians and work together to solve this.

2260
03:11:50,700 --> 03:11:53,700
And we can, but we have to get together.

2261
03:11:54,060 --> 03:11:58,480
We don't need Dr. Choi to do that, but Dr. Choi got us going.

2262
03:11:58,800 --> 03:11:59,760
Thank you.

2263
03:12:02,630 --> 03:12:04,610
Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2264
03:12:12,550 --> 03:12:18,030
Hi, I'm Steve Spell, a little bit 23, 12, Katie Lane, I appreciate your time and effort.

2265
03:12:19,470 --> 03:12:20,910
It's just after 10, I guess.

2266
03:12:22,150 --> 03:12:24,790
I want to speak on one thing and maybe another if I've got a minute.

2267
03:12:25,450 --> 03:12:29,050
I remember, Madam Mayor, when you announced the Office of Violence Prevention.

2268
03:12:29,470 --> 03:12:32,850
I thought, well, I don't exactly know what that is.

2269
03:12:33,470 --> 03:12:36,630
I'm not sure what that's going to do. It sounds pretty good.

2270
03:12:37,310 --> 03:12:38,070
Wait and see.

2271
03:12:38,670 --> 03:12:47,830
I heard some of the things that came up like, well, okay, that sounds like good things to do, but we're going to talk about it or something what's going to become of that, I guess.

2272
03:12:47,830 --> 03:12:55,550
Um, when a democracy was, uh, but hired is that I didn't know him from Adam, um,

2273
03:12:55,670 --> 03:12:58,070
it's a big community, a city in cross paths.

2274
03:12:58,910 --> 03:13:03,750
Um, I've got to know the fellow, um, over the last few weeks, there are how many days

2275
03:13:03,750 --> 03:13:04,730
he's been there.

2276
03:13:05,550 --> 03:13:08,070
And I'm deeply impressed by his character.

2277
03:13:09,230 --> 03:13:12,790
Uh, this is a fellow with experience, uh, passion.

2278
03:13:14,570 --> 03:13:17,330
Um, yeah, I couldn't think of a better person for that position.

2279
03:13:17,330 --> 03:13:22,410
I'm still trying to figure out what all that is, but deeply impressed by him.

2280
03:13:22,810 --> 03:13:28,070
I've sat in at least two of the community presentations he listed a bunch of them.

2281
03:13:28,310 --> 03:13:29,690
I don't doubt that.

2282
03:13:30,590 --> 03:13:34,870
He has the gate of a pastor, I guess, can be long-winded.

2283
03:13:35,350 --> 03:13:36,090
I get that.

2284
03:13:37,090 --> 03:13:43,910
But the confidence that he has there in the drive, an example that he gave in that that really

2285
03:13:43,910 --> 03:13:49,570
help cut through the jargon of some of the, you know, social work acronyms that I, you know,

2286
03:13:49,830 --> 03:13:54,490
cognitive things and, you know, I don't know what that is, but I guess we'll learn.

2287
03:13:54,890 --> 03:13:59,810
He gave an example on if I'll do it justice, but he said, I guess soon after he was in there

2288
03:13:59,810 --> 03:14:05,730
or sometime there, tragic, census killing about three-year-old child.

2289
03:14:07,050 --> 03:14:13,890
And everyone's just like, this doesn't even make any sense, like, how do you register that?

2290
03:14:14,570 --> 03:14:17,890
And he gets in there and I guess he was the chaplain for the police department.

2291
03:14:18,230 --> 03:14:18,850
It was the background.

2292
03:14:19,530 --> 03:14:23,290
And those people in the community helped usher the grieving parents.

2293
03:14:23,930 --> 03:14:26,030
Family members to see their dead child.

2294
03:14:28,350 --> 03:14:32,370
And to see that and tell them, as I understood or recall,

2295
03:14:33,170 --> 03:14:36,330
I'm sorry you can't have the body yet because we've got to do an investigation.

2296
03:14:39,200 --> 03:14:41,860
I know that's going to step into that place.

2297
03:14:43,420 --> 03:14:45,860
And you know that really did the light bulb for me to wear

2298
03:14:45,860 --> 03:14:50,120
Oh, okay, that's where we can meet this thing.

2299
03:14:50,260 --> 03:14:52,040
And you know, talk about, you know, what government does

2300
03:14:52,040 --> 03:14:54,100
and the community does and so forth,

2301
03:14:54,680 --> 03:14:56,440
I think bridging that gap is the opportunity.

2302
03:14:57,440 --> 03:14:59,880
I look forward to actionable items and still.

2303
03:15:00,210 --> 03:15:10,050
Trying to get my arms around that, and if public communications is a passion of mine, so give me on the acronyms and what that looks on the ground would help me. Thanks, your time.

2304
03:15:10,590 --> 03:15:13,710
Thank you. Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2305
03:15:18,610 --> 03:15:31,130
My name is Kristen Bowen. I live in the fourth ward on Stuart Road, and I just want to say I'm moved to speak because I'm so grateful. First of all, to be here to hear the report from the Office of Violence Prevention,

2306
03:15:31,130 --> 03:15:36,890
and the work that's been done to connect our community is really powerful to hear about

2307
03:15:36,890 --> 03:15:42,910
and it's early days, but it's so important. As many of us already know in this room, Missouri

2308
03:15:42,910 --> 03:15:51,030
currently experiences one of the highest rates of gun violence in our country. We also simultaneously

2309
03:15:51,030 --> 03:15:56,950
have some of the weakest gun laws in the country, which is why I also just want to say thank you so

2310
03:15:56,950 --> 03:16:04,470
for taking this effort and time that you've done today to spell out a legislative priority that

2311
03:16:04,470 --> 03:16:11,910
the city of Columbia can be proactive about in Jefferson City. I have had the experience of being

2312
03:16:11,910 --> 03:16:20,210
in hearing rooms just this past legislative session, listening to truly extremist lobbyists and

2313
03:16:20,210 --> 03:16:26,830
lawmakers who do not have the interests and values of Columbia in mind when they attempt to enact

2314
03:16:26,830 --> 03:16:29,810
some further weakening of our gun laws.

2315
03:16:30,870 --> 03:16:33,750
I've been in the room when I've heard testimony

2316
03:16:33,750 --> 03:16:36,070
from some of our own law enforcement officers

2317
03:16:36,070 --> 03:16:38,950
from Columbia talking specifically about

2318
03:16:38,950 --> 03:16:41,470
how the work that's happening in Jefferson City

2319
03:16:41,470 --> 03:16:42,790
makes us less safe.

2320
03:16:43,430 --> 03:16:45,870
It's just so important that we are in that conversation

2321
03:16:45,870 --> 03:16:46,930
and at that table.

2322
03:16:46,950 --> 03:16:49,910
So I just want to say thank you for taking this step

2323
03:16:49,910 --> 03:16:51,990
and continuing to commit to pay attention

2324
03:16:51,990 --> 03:16:53,870
to what's happening in Jefferson City

2325
03:16:53,870 --> 03:16:59,810
Because it's going to take all of us to change those gun laws and to change those policies.

2326
03:17:00,370 --> 03:17:06,310
And it's just a fact that safer gun laws would make us all safer as a state, and we're

2327
03:17:06,310 --> 03:17:07,010
just not there.

2328
03:17:07,230 --> 03:17:13,370
So thank you all, and I really appreciate this opportunity, and I hope to come back and

2329
03:17:13,370 --> 03:17:16,510
hear more as you all continue to re-evaluate what happens.

2330
03:17:16,950 --> 03:17:18,930
This is a coming session in 2020, six.

2331
03:17:19,270 --> 03:17:19,730
Thanks, Kristen.

2332
03:17:20,890 --> 03:17:22,630
Anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2333
03:17:29,340 --> 03:17:37,500
I'm Paul Layman, I'm an organic farmer and an environmentalist, a long time environmentalist.

2334
03:17:37,740 --> 03:17:46,680
I have to be the chairperson of the Missouri Green Party, but that's just a side piece of information.

2335
03:17:47,760 --> 03:18:02,500
I'm here to speak about the herbicide damage in Steven's Lake Park, if you've been out there recently,

2336
03:18:02,800 --> 03:18:14,860
it looks like someone described it as a war zone where the life has been sucked out because of this herbicide damage.

2337
03:18:14,860 --> 03:18:22,220
I'd like to pass out some packet for each of you if you said, okay, I do that.

2338
03:18:22,220 --> 03:18:25,300
If you want to hand it to Sheila, she'll hand it to the rest of us.

2339
03:18:29,510 --> 03:18:31,770
These are numbered one through eleven.

2340
03:18:32,530 --> 03:18:37,610
What that means is I had 33 pictures and sort of divide them up among these.

2341
03:18:38,250 --> 03:18:43,690
So if you want to see more than what's in your packet, just to, you know, exchange with your neighbor.

2342
03:18:43,690 --> 03:18:51,110
So, the numbers are irrelevant except to help you remember which packet you looked at.

2343
03:18:51,770 --> 03:19:00,230
So, I brought a, well, I wanted to say that I'm also a victim of herbicide drift

2344
03:19:00,230 --> 03:19:03,650
and a volatization on my farm.

2345
03:19:04,590 --> 03:19:11,930
My neighbor sprayed his GMO soybeans and that has drifted over and has stayed.

2346
03:19:11,930 --> 03:19:20,050
is one of these kind of inversion situations where it doesn't go away. It just stays in one place

2347
03:19:22,050 --> 03:19:32,170
and it calls all kinds of damage. It killed my clover crop, my garden. These samples are from

2348
03:19:32,170 --> 03:19:41,810
My farm, as you can see how the damage works, it's supposed to go away according to the

2349
03:19:41,810 --> 03:19:44,490
chemical people, but it didn't.

2350
03:19:44,670 --> 03:19:50,790
It's been four months of endless siege of this dust that's always around.

2351
03:19:51,070 --> 03:19:54,090
It gets in my house, it gets in everywhere.

2352
03:19:54,630 --> 03:19:59,470
And then I discovered it's in Stevens Lake Park, identical.

2353
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:09,500
The same kind of effect. So, of course, I couldn't cut any trees at Stevens Lake, so I brought an identical.

2354
03:20:10,300 --> 03:20:18,020
You'll see that you start off with growth in the spring, then they spray, and then you get damaged here.

2355
03:20:18,640 --> 03:20:38,240
This is a kind of a shrubble-up effect, and then it dies down, we get a cover clear day, the wind shifts, and comes out of the south, and so the north, and then it allows the tree to grow some more, and then they...

2356
03:20:38,240 --> 03:20:39,960
Mr. Leighman, you're at time?

2357
03:20:40,360 --> 03:20:40,680
Okay.

2358
03:20:41,300 --> 03:20:44,320
But I want to have a staff member come and talk to you before you leave tonight.

2359
03:20:45,480 --> 03:20:47,020
I might have a staff member reach out to you.

2360
03:20:47,020 --> 03:20:56,640
Okay. Well, I just wanted the council to do local control measures because you can control this.

2361
03:20:56,660 --> 03:20:58,080
Thank you, Mr. Layman. Appreciate it.

2362
03:20:59,180 --> 03:21:01,520
Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

2363
03:21:11,300 --> 03:21:13,560
Eugene Elkin, 346, range line.

2364
03:21:14,740 --> 03:21:17,320
As the previous gentleman was talking about chemicals.

2365
03:21:18,540 --> 03:21:25,060
You know, for anybody who's gotten a little older than you think back, there was once a word called Times Beach, Missouri.

2366
03:21:25,880 --> 03:21:28,700
It evolved around too many chemicals.

2367
03:21:30,580 --> 03:21:36,360
We do not want that happening in the city of Columbia, but long he headed in a rule setting.

2368
03:21:37,740 --> 03:21:44,180
Tonight, I want to thank the gentleman that was talking on the mention of violence, that gentleman earns his paycheck sir.

2369
03:21:44,760 --> 03:21:51,800
When somebody can give out that much knowledge that he is truly meeting with people, communicating with people,

2370
03:21:51,800 --> 03:21:57,960
I hope I can leave a message tonight that I don't get cut off because I was so upset last time.

2371
03:21:59,260 --> 03:22:05,360
President Moon Troy has suggested that the students now leave the downtown at midnight.

2372
03:22:06,340 --> 03:22:12,580
From my perspective, let's see businesses start their eight o'clock fund and

2373
03:22:12,580 --> 03:22:15,280
It's not down at midnight.

2374
03:22:16,600 --> 03:22:22,900
The children can all hang around to one and hopefully on their way, because what we're

2375
03:22:22,900 --> 03:22:25,160
talking about is the effects of alcohol.

2376
03:22:26,560 --> 03:22:30,400
In the last two years, I was in downtown the exact same location.

2377
03:22:31,420 --> 03:22:34,760
The shots went off and I had no idea where to go.

2378
03:22:35,400 --> 03:22:42,560
I returned the night of the killing and I was on the opposite corner at 1130 which puts

2379
03:22:42,560 --> 03:22:45,100
me about two hours before the actual shooting.

2380
03:22:47,450 --> 03:22:51,010
I want the old Columbia as many people have said.

2381
03:22:52,250 --> 03:22:58,390
We are a peaceful community. We don't need to dread walking down the street of Columbia,

2382
03:22:58,390 --> 03:23:05,310
even if it's dark. Did the lights need to be brightened earlier than they have mentioned tonight?

2383
03:23:06,290 --> 03:23:12,730
We have to be educating those who are handling guns.

2384
03:23:13,210 --> 03:23:18,190
Our police need to be careful when handling those who are breaking the law.

2385
03:23:19,210 --> 03:23:22,190
Tonight's trauma subject has been very prominent.

2386
03:23:22,650 --> 03:23:24,810
Many different ones have mentioned as well as Marcus.

2387
03:23:26,790 --> 03:23:33,610
The more we educate, the better off we'll be, for no one seems to educate the packer,

2388
03:23:33,610 --> 03:23:38,690
The one carrying the gun legally, do you realize if you have to pull that thing?

2389
03:23:39,330 --> 03:23:42,150
What laws are not in your favor?

2390
03:23:42,530 --> 03:23:45,230
You have to go by the law when you're carrying.

2391
03:23:46,450 --> 03:23:53,070
Arcing now and using gun can't keep up my own notes.

2392
03:23:54,770 --> 03:23:55,690
Don't it?

2393
03:23:55,730 --> 03:24:03,970
The point is please, please, see that our officers are handling the public in the proper manner

2394
03:24:03,970 --> 03:24:09,270
for I am getting many reports of misunderstanding of our homeless God bless.

2395
03:24:09,290 --> 03:24:10,010
Thank you, Jean.

2396
03:24:10,830 --> 03:24:12,890
Would anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2397
03:24:18,270 --> 03:24:21,210
Even in Dimitris Stevens, I live in the Third Ward.

2398
03:24:22,610 --> 03:24:28,590
I want to speak to the violence prevention position.

2399
03:24:28,930 --> 03:24:31,010
That position is necessary.

2400
03:24:32,070 --> 03:24:38,470
I want to say that it's been more than a year that I've taken time to go downtown.

2401
03:24:39,370 --> 03:24:47,290
I saw individuals Saturday night and I was a little disappointed because I don't believe

2402
03:24:47,290 --> 03:24:51,770
the reason and down there is what we've heard.

2403
03:24:52,630 --> 03:24:58,630
I believe that it is the city's position to lead not University of Missouri.

2404
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:10,420
I go down and I watch, I observe. It's not a pretty sight. What I see? I'm saying all of this to say that it is very necessary

2405
03:25:10,420 --> 03:25:17,360
for the position and the work that's being done for it to be done. But again, I heard someone say on

2406
03:25:17,360 --> 03:25:24,040
the mental health that is real. You got to start at the basics. What you guys are doing is great,

2407
03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:35,880
But it's the mental health. I hear about guns. I'm a registered responsible gun owner and I will fight to the end from my rights to have that.

2408
03:25:36,300 --> 03:25:46,060
But a gun can't kill a person without the person. A gun will do what it does. It can sit on a shelf and it won't kill a person.

2409
03:25:46,060 --> 03:25:51,460
Um, but I said that to say that we got to address the mental health.

2410
03:25:51,900 --> 03:25:52,940
That's the basics.

2411
03:25:53,740 --> 03:25:56,940
Then we can talk about the jobs, the homelessness,

2412
03:25:57,760 --> 03:26:02,160
because until you hit the root of the issue of what's causing the problems,

2413
03:26:02,640 --> 03:26:04,300
we're not going to fix it.

2414
03:26:04,880 --> 03:26:06,680
I visited my grandson this weekend,

2415
03:26:08,000 --> 03:26:10,060
and he said something to me.

2416
03:26:11,160 --> 03:26:14,320
And it broke my heart because I thought all the work that we're doing

2417
03:26:14,320 --> 03:26:22,740
that it's making a difference and it is, but he said grandma, he said the individual is on the street that's killing, they don't care about nobody.

2418
03:26:24,920 --> 03:26:30,740
He said, it's about street cred, they just want to be able to say I killed somebody, that's sick.

2419
03:26:32,140 --> 03:26:40,740
But I'm saying to you guys, the work, that position is necessary, build on it if it needs assistance, the mark is doing great work.

2420
03:26:40,740 --> 03:26:47,420
going to take all of us when you see something, say something, I see a lot. And it ain't always

2421
03:26:47,420 --> 03:26:55,920
pretty. Citizens, the police department, I've watched, I've recorded. We not all act in

2422
03:26:55,920 --> 03:27:01,900
accordingly. Everybody got to be held responsible and accountable, but you got to start

2423
03:27:01,900 --> 03:27:09,920
at the basics because mental health is running rampant. If you can get out there more than just

2424
03:27:09,920 --> 03:27:13,800
and on a weekend, I'm telling you it's so much going on that need to be addressed.

2425
03:27:14,720 --> 03:27:15,680
Thank you.

2426
03:27:15,700 --> 03:27:16,180
Thank you, Jimmy.

2427
03:27:17,020 --> 03:27:19,860
Would anyone else from the public wish to speak,

2428
03:27:25,700 --> 03:27:28,360
greetings, council, and city leaders?

2429
03:27:29,720 --> 03:27:32,240
I come up here with a very heavy heart.

2430
03:27:32,320 --> 03:27:38,060
You see, I have Shazon, the young lady, Ayanna, Ya Ya, whom was most recently

2431
03:27:38,060 --> 03:27:41,600
gunned down by an act of gun violence with someone that I knew.

2432
03:27:42,300 --> 03:27:47,560
She just celebrated her 21st birthday in May of this year.

2433
03:27:48,640 --> 03:27:49,980
And she reminds me of myself.

2434
03:27:50,200 --> 03:27:53,000
I came here in 2009 from Springfield, Missouri,

2435
03:27:53,280 --> 03:27:55,680
Green County to attend the University of Missouri.

2436
03:27:55,860 --> 03:27:57,660
I've attended there in Column College.

2437
03:27:58,280 --> 03:27:59,400
I worked for a local nonprofit.

2438
03:27:59,720 --> 03:28:02,540
I've even been able to start a small business here in Columnia

2439
03:28:02,540 --> 03:28:04,640
that actually was accepted in downtown.

2440
03:28:05,320 --> 03:28:07,480
And I would just like to echo the sentiments

2441
03:28:07,480 --> 03:28:09,340
of those that came before me.

2442
03:28:09,340 --> 03:28:15,000
Thank you all for your time to Marcus for his time, but the sense of urgency has been here.

2443
03:28:15,340 --> 03:28:20,680
I think just the numbers that he's displayed, the sentiments from the chief earlier I was here

2444
03:28:20,680 --> 03:28:29,100
earlier than I left. We need something done. I feel as first word Valerie fills. I don't feel like

2445
03:28:29,100 --> 03:28:37,820
we need any more time to deliberate on the fact that we need more positions within the office of

2446
03:28:37,820 --> 03:28:45,420
prevention but also something in the interim. Some type of crisis intervention and I think we need to take a full

2447
03:28:45,420 --> 03:28:52,440
assessment of all of the citizens of our city to see what everyone really wants. I frequent online.

2448
03:28:52,720 --> 03:28:58,760
I frequent community public spaces like this and there are a variety of opinions and none of them are

2449
03:28:58,760 --> 03:29:05,380
aligning and I would implore the council and the city management to start with the youth and start with

2450
03:29:05,380 --> 03:29:12,760
most vulnerable youth to really see what is valuable to them, because yes, we are working on a long-term

2451
03:29:12,760 --> 03:29:19,320
plan through the Office of Prevention, but as we can see, are you third dying? Literally, every day.

2452
03:29:20,000 --> 03:29:25,380
I think back to January when there was the large shooting at Cosmo Park, which mostly consisted of

2453
03:29:25,380 --> 03:29:32,240
college students and young people between the ages of 17 and I'm 34, my age. And so I would just say

2454
03:29:32,240 --> 03:29:39,360
all that to say that I just urge more funding, more support, and whatever timelines need to be set forth

2455
03:29:39,360 --> 03:29:46,480
like Jackie requested on, giving us some type of in the now response to what we clearly are seeing.

2456
03:29:46,640 --> 03:29:52,060
I have to go to my friends funeral this weekend. She was about to graduate from Stevens College

2457
03:29:52,060 --> 03:29:56,660
when they're seeing, and I would like to say I had to test the actions that were displayed this

2458
03:29:56,660 --> 03:29:59,980
Saturday, I personally didn't go downtown, I appreciate the...

2459
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:16,040
Council members who spoke out about it but did not give their presence and I respect that and I appreciate that because those of us who frequent the community, frequent these areas of concern, know that what happened last Saturday is not even a first step into getting the issues resolved.

2460
03:30:16,560 --> 03:30:24,920
We have to come to the people and I think even me being a millennial 34, we need to really reassess what the youth want.

2461
03:30:24,920 --> 03:30:30,060
Because clearly there's a disconnect and we're not aligned with the measurable goals for trying to achieve.

2462
03:30:30,640 --> 03:30:31,340
Thank you for your time.

2463
03:30:31,600 --> 03:30:33,020
Can you say your name for the record?

2464
03:30:33,440 --> 03:30:33,580
Sorry.

2465
03:30:33,900 --> 03:30:36,100
My name is Ernie Shoduke and I live in the fifth ward.

2466
03:30:36,520 --> 03:30:36,760
Thank you.

2467
03:30:37,000 --> 03:30:37,920
Thank you.

2468
03:30:38,620 --> 03:30:40,980
Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

2469
03:30:44,430 --> 03:30:46,370
Hey, Harry cast a loam in the fifth ward.

2470
03:30:46,610 --> 03:30:49,870
I'm speaking on behalf of Peaceworks if I could get five minutes.

2471
03:30:49,910 --> 03:30:50,290
Okay.

2472
03:30:50,310 --> 03:30:50,850
Glad to.

2473
03:30:51,430 --> 03:30:53,510
Thank you.

2474
03:30:53,510 --> 03:30:59,350
on comments made by Emu President Munchoy on the horrific murder of the bright Stevens College

2475
03:30:59,350 --> 03:31:04,370
student Ayanna Williams during homecoming weekend, where he sent an email to the Emu campus

2476
03:31:04,370 --> 03:31:09,090
community as well as the City Council and Mayor Buffalo. He also held a press conference

2477
03:31:09,090 --> 03:31:13,950
addressing what he felt were issues in downtown and heard from others using the tragic shooting

2478
03:31:13,950 --> 03:31:20,150
as a catalyst for the comments. As is unfortunately typical in these kinds of situations today,

2479
03:31:20,150 --> 03:31:24,410
his comments were made before more information about the accused shooter was known.

2480
03:31:25,070 --> 03:31:29,550
We know that we're from Florida, but we were, were they a student, a part of our unhoused

2481
03:31:29,550 --> 03:31:35,770
community, a criminal for out of state, or a citizen who had a gun when they probably

2482
03:31:35,770 --> 03:31:38,610
shouldn't have, but did due to lacks gun laws.

2483
03:31:39,410 --> 03:31:43,590
The lack of information did not stop many from latching onto the situation in choice

2484
03:31:43,590 --> 03:31:49,430
comments as a statement of political discontent and calls for officials to resign or be recalled.

2485
03:31:50,150 --> 03:31:54,090
And this is in spite of the mother of the victim saying that the family does not want

2486
03:31:54,090 --> 03:31:57,050
Ion as murder to be used to drive political agendas.

2487
03:31:57,930 --> 03:32:03,690
President Choy stated, rampant crime downtown is a crisis, even though violent crime downtown,

2488
03:32:03,870 --> 03:32:09,650
citywide, is on a downward trend based off of Chief Sludes reports.

2489
03:32:10,670 --> 03:32:16,870
Choi praised CPD for doing an excellent job all the while saving crime is out of control

2490
03:32:16,870 --> 03:32:21,330
despite the number, despite numbers painting a more complicated picture than that so I'm

2491
03:32:21,330 --> 03:32:23,910
not sure how that quite works but okay.

2492
03:32:24,350 --> 03:32:29,090
He states current policies and practices need to be examined because they attract criminals

2493
03:32:29,090 --> 03:32:34,070
but would not articulate any specific policy or practice doing such.

2494
03:32:34,070 --> 03:32:47,290
This vagueness when making dire claims about the state of Columbia, Columbia's downtown, and the policies causing it serves no one and only leads to confusion and worry over what is implied here.

2495
03:32:47,610 --> 03:32:56,310
Especially with the state's pension for trying to overturn the will of local control of municipalities, and in some cases the entire population of the state.

2496
03:32:57,490 --> 03:33:02,890
Passing a loitering ordering, clearing encampments for the unhoused congregate and enacting

2497
03:33:02,890 --> 03:33:07,410
a youth curfew are some of the suggestions, I'm not going to have enough time, that

2498
03:33:07,410 --> 03:33:12,230
don't address the problem of gun violence, and each of these comes with their own logistical

2499
03:33:12,230 --> 03:33:14,490
and constitutional enforcement concerns.

2500
03:33:15,330 --> 03:33:20,270
Choice comments to the city also includes what I would consider, a not-so-vailed threat

2501
03:33:20,270 --> 03:33:25,770
about possibly asking Governor T. Heo to get involved. I think the residents of Columbia

2502
03:33:25,770 --> 03:33:31,170
understand that threat and what is meant by it and we see how other progressive cities are

2503
03:33:31,170 --> 03:33:36,950
treated by the Trump administration and red state governors. I'm not going to be able to finish this,

2504
03:33:37,450 --> 03:33:39,910
but I appreciate your time. Thank you so much.

2505
03:33:40,130 --> 03:33:43,770
You're here. Oh, here you go. I see more minutes. Yeah, I was looking at that.

2506
03:33:44,030 --> 03:33:46,950
All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. When I was talking. I appreciate it.

2507
03:33:49,070 --> 03:33:54,430
Let me see. I also heard Councilman Waterman speak on the, well, wake up Missouri radio show.

2508
03:33:54,430 --> 03:33:58,030
where he had mentioned the unintended consequences of concealed and carry laws

2509
03:33:58,030 --> 03:34:02,550
were less police confiscation of guns of carrying guns.

2510
03:34:03,130 --> 03:34:08,730
I think most people that want reasonable gun laws would say the expected consequences of concealed

2511
03:34:08,730 --> 03:34:14,530
carry is that good or bad people will carry again wherever they wish and when they feel threatened,

2512
03:34:14,950 --> 03:34:18,730
feel that they have a way out without feeling fully assessing their surroundings.

2513
03:34:19,870 --> 03:34:26,550
What also seems to indicate this are comments made by the accused shooter to officers and said he felt people

2514
03:34:26,550 --> 03:34:32,350
ganged up on him in an altercation. So he fired warning shots, blindly into the crowd of people,

2515
03:34:32,530 --> 03:34:36,370
injuring two and killing one, none of them involved in the original altercation.

2516
03:34:36,910 --> 03:34:45,250
What I find glaring enjoys comments, at least, is that they never once addressed that we live in a state where you can

2517
03:34:45,250 --> 03:34:47,070
awfully carrier concealed weapon.

2518
03:34:48,450 --> 03:34:52,970
Also, Miss Missing is a single mention about any sort of reasonable gun control, so why

2519
03:34:52,970 --> 03:34:54,430
we're both of those things, Missing.

2520
03:34:55,210 --> 03:34:59,390
This tragedy is a situation where some political actors are attempting to assassinate a

2521
03:34:59,390 --> 03:34:59,970
the line escape.

2522
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:22,600
Let's take a blame instead of blaming backward gun laws put in place by lawmakers in Jefferson City. They pass laws giving virtually everyone the opportunity to carry a gun, then blame liberal policies they perceive as supermissive of crime when tragedy strikes and ignore the guns. The comments from Moon Choi, which engage in this, are particularly alarmist and rhetoric which is concerning.

2523
03:35:24,660 --> 03:35:29,700
But what more would you expect from the M.U. President that doesn't pay many of its employees

2524
03:35:29,700 --> 03:35:30,620
a living wage?

2525
03:35:31,240 --> 03:35:34,940
What more would you expect from the M.U. President who, when the opportunity arose,

2526
03:35:35,220 --> 03:35:38,280
stop providing life, saving medical care for the trans community?

2527
03:35:38,800 --> 03:35:43,280
What more would you expect from the M.U. President that sends emails intended to chill the

2528
03:35:43,280 --> 03:35:46,940
speech of employees and students to speak out about various causes?

2529
03:35:47,020 --> 03:35:47,740
Thank you, Terry.

2530
03:35:48,340 --> 03:35:48,980
Now you are.

2531
03:35:49,160 --> 03:35:50,240
Thank you, though.

2532
03:35:50,700 --> 03:35:55,280
And anyone else from the public wish to speak, at Danny Verdy talked on general comment,

2533
03:35:56,320 --> 03:35:57,040
But we're all around.

2534
03:36:05,900 --> 03:36:06,920
I'm Sebastian Montgomery.

2535
03:36:07,180 --> 03:36:10,040
I'm originally from St. Louis, but I've been living here for school for the past

2536
03:36:10,040 --> 03:36:10,380
four years.

2537
03:36:10,440 --> 03:36:11,400
I'm a student at Mizzou.

2538
03:36:12,100 --> 03:36:14,700
Kind of touching on what the last person just said.

2539
03:36:15,640 --> 03:36:21,300
I want to state that President President and Chancellor Leron Montcho is a

2540
03:36:21,300 --> 03:36:23,240
statement, severe the email he sent out to the campus community.

2541
03:36:23,480 --> 03:36:27,760
Do not reflect the views of the student body at Mizzou.

2542
03:36:27,760 --> 03:36:33,240
I'm sure there are probably some people that agree for him, but I know I speak for myself and many of my friends and my allies on campus.

2543
03:36:34,820 --> 03:36:40,960
When we say, we don't want to anti-loadering ordinance pass, we don't want an anti-panhandling ordinance pass.

2544
03:36:41,300 --> 03:36:45,580
A curfew is a frankly a silly idea, especially in a city like Columbia.

2545
03:36:47,960 --> 03:36:52,680
I don't think those things would make the lives of the average person in Columbia any better.

2546
03:36:52,680 --> 03:36:53,880
I actually think it would make it worse.

2547
03:36:54,000 --> 03:36:56,120
I think it will lead to possible harassment

2548
03:36:56,120 --> 03:36:57,240
of unhoused people.

2549
03:36:57,420 --> 03:37:00,440
I think it doesn't do anything to make our community safer

2550
03:37:00,440 --> 03:37:00,880
and better.

2551
03:37:00,880 --> 03:37:03,260
I think the kind of thing that does come in our community

2552
03:37:03,260 --> 03:37:06,140
safer and better is the things that we're being talked

2553
03:37:06,140 --> 03:37:07,660
about with the Office of Violence Prevention.

2554
03:37:08,080 --> 03:37:11,580
And I'm very glad that that sort of task market force

2555
03:37:11,580 --> 03:37:14,120
is being implemented and doing good work in our community.

2556
03:37:14,700 --> 03:37:17,760
I would also be hesitant to give Moncho a too much credit

2557
03:37:17,760 --> 03:37:21,100
for starting us on the path of violence prevention

2558
03:37:21,100 --> 03:37:22,660
because I know that the city has been

2559
03:37:22,660 --> 03:37:28,220
working on that kind of thing for a while now, and honestly, I'm very disappointed that

2560
03:37:28,220 --> 03:37:32,980
one toy would seemingly from where I'm standing, use the tragic killing of Ayana Williams.

2561
03:37:33,520 --> 03:37:39,720
I mean, she rest in peace as an opportunity to push his very obviously political rhetoric

2562
03:37:39,720 --> 03:37:42,260
and to characterize Columbia as a man's safe town.

2563
03:37:42,600 --> 03:37:49,420
I live downtown, and I never feel unsafe walking alone at night, a student, and so sometimes

2564
03:37:49,420 --> 03:37:55,340
my sleep schedule is a little late and I've never had any problems walking home late at night

2565
03:37:55,340 --> 03:38:01,480
or walking alone. And frankly, I would be much more, I would feel much more worried about the

2566
03:38:01,480 --> 03:38:06,660
dangers of certain people with certain political views that think that people like me shouldn't

2567
03:38:06,660 --> 03:38:10,840
exist or think that people like me shouldn't be allowed to express ourselves. I would be much more

2568
03:38:10,840 --> 03:38:19,400
worried about people like that who are lawfully allowed to carry guns than I ever would be about

2569
03:38:19,880 --> 03:38:24,360
And so I'm glad that the city is proactively doing things, especially like affordable housing.

2570
03:38:25,460 --> 03:38:31,380
That actively addressed the root causes of homelessness and are not putting a bandaid on the wounds out of speak with more police presence.

2571
03:38:32,420 --> 03:38:35,220
And so I hope the city continues on that path.

2572
03:38:35,820 --> 03:38:40,540
And doesn't get too intimidated by one choice trying to push it as political rhetoric.

2573
03:38:40,580 --> 03:38:41,600
Right, Eric. Thank you.

2574
03:38:41,680 --> 03:38:42,300
Thank you, Sebastian.

2575
03:38:43,420 --> 03:38:45,740
But anyone else from the public wish to speak?

2576
03:38:47,950 --> 03:38:52,470
I mean, none will come. Oh, no, we're not done. Just kidding. You don't have to hustle. It's okay.

2577
03:39:01,350 --> 03:39:04,510
Hi, my name is Dr. Less Gray. I live in the first word.

2578
03:39:05,770 --> 03:39:07,550
I am here representing myself.

2579
03:39:08,510 --> 03:39:12,090
Not my employer. I've been crying a lot in public recently.

2580
03:39:12,750 --> 03:39:15,970
And I'm just going to use it as a political spectacle at this point.

2581
03:39:16,410 --> 03:39:23,650
I have so much grief that I am trying to hold in my body and alongside people that I care about.

2582
03:39:23,650 --> 03:39:30,490
And I know that you are too, and I didn't come up here to catastrophize during catastrophic times or fear munger.

2583
03:39:30,890 --> 03:39:33,190
I'm just trying to tell you that I am so grateful.

2584
03:39:34,410 --> 03:39:36,890
I see you trying to do right by people.

2585
03:39:37,390 --> 03:39:49,950
I see you treating people like they belong to us to each other in a way that is not about ownership or discipline or all these things that historically have been true.

2586
03:39:49,950 --> 03:39:59,970
I really want to be able to tell my students, particularly my Black female students, that they're worth protecting, and that they're actually.

2587
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:14,900
Citizens, sustainable actions that will illuminate that and not make me a liar. So thank you. I see what you're doing. I appreciate you.

2588
03:40:16,000 --> 03:40:21,900
And I hope that you can sustain yourself through this moment and the harder moments that are to come.

2589
03:40:22,740 --> 03:40:24,540
Thank you.

2590
03:40:24,540 --> 03:40:27,420
Would anybody else from the public wish to speak?

2591
03:40:29,270 --> 03:40:30,750
The none. I'll come to Council comments.

2592
03:40:31,070 --> 03:40:32,710
We'll start with council member Carol.

2593
03:40:34,310 --> 03:40:35,150
That happened fast.

2594
03:40:36,670 --> 03:40:37,010
Okay.

2595
03:40:40,000 --> 03:40:41,680
I have a housekeeping item.

2596
03:40:42,680 --> 03:40:46,920
And I also have some things that I wanted to say.

2597
03:40:47,480 --> 03:40:50,760
So I'll get the housekeeping item out of the way first.

2598
03:40:51,820 --> 03:40:59,660
I've met with Adrian Stovic recently to discuss our ADU ordinance.

2599
03:41:00,360 --> 03:41:05,300
This is something that we worked on during my time on planning and zoning twice.

2600
03:41:07,340 --> 03:41:13,160
And something that we actually expected to come back around to,

2601
03:41:13,300 --> 03:41:15,480
but kind of lost that momentum.

2602
03:41:15,480 --> 03:41:23,460
I thought she had some good recommendations, and I'd like to recommend that the planning

2603
03:41:23,460 --> 03:41:30,080
and zoning commission and planning staff revisit this again for code updates.

2604
03:41:32,720 --> 03:41:40,300
And if we have a council consensus, I'm happy to make a motion.

2605
03:41:40,980 --> 03:41:44,720
to Kyle and let me know what you want me to do.

2606
03:41:45,240 --> 03:41:48,360
You have specific recommendations that we're sending to

2607
03:41:48,360 --> 03:41:51,880
planning and zoning in relation to Adrian's recommendations or just to review.

2608
03:41:52,460 --> 03:41:57,980
I would say to review, and you know, I can read off the recommendations, but

2609
03:41:58,760 --> 03:42:01,280
she has come to speak with them directly.

2610
03:42:02,440 --> 03:42:09,260
And I know that there were things that were on planning and zoning's list of items they wanted to review as well.

2611
03:42:10,600 --> 03:42:22,400
So perhaps I would suggest discussion to renew discussion and they can permit what needs to be reviewed.

2612
03:42:22,860 --> 03:42:32,400
Yeah, we could just ask planning and zoning to look at the ADU regulations and ask ADU into a forward that her email to them.

2613
03:42:32,420 --> 03:42:36,700
I think most of us have read that and you don't need to read it to us again.

2614
03:42:36,700 --> 03:42:40,760
But I do agree it should go to planning and zoning and they can.

2615
03:42:41,000 --> 03:42:43,940
Yeah, is there any objection to setting for me review?

2616
03:42:44,240 --> 03:42:44,760
No objection.

2617
03:42:45,680 --> 03:42:45,700
Okay.

2618
03:42:47,020 --> 03:42:49,040
I feel like I should also remind all of our council members.

2619
03:42:49,280 --> 03:42:49,960
It's 10.45.

2620
03:42:50,460 --> 03:42:51,760
So some of your additional things.

2621
03:42:51,960 --> 03:42:52,920
We might just kind of.

2622
03:42:53,780 --> 03:42:53,800
Okay.

2623
03:42:54,200 --> 03:42:55,220
No, no, I'm not you, Valerie.

2624
03:42:55,460 --> 03:42:57,800
I'm your first of seven or five.

2625
03:42:58,040 --> 03:42:58,840
I'm your first.

2626
03:42:58,840 --> 03:43:00,580
I will try to be timely.

2627
03:43:00,900 --> 03:43:03,780
But I will also say that I'm not.

2628
03:43:03,780 --> 03:43:07,860
We have some things to address as a council.

2629
03:43:07,960 --> 03:43:10,660
I think we don't need to do it today.

2630
03:43:12,640 --> 03:43:19,180
I am a Williams tragically lost her life this week and I don't think we can pass by that.

2631
03:43:21,320 --> 03:43:25,740
And somehow in the wake of this tragedy,

2632
03:43:26,980 --> 03:43:46,400
Our public conversation turned to focus on homelessness and property crime, and I'm not saying we don't have a problem, we have a problem, I know we have a problem, we need to work on that problem, we're already working on that problem and we're going to continue working on that problem.

2633
03:43:50,820 --> 03:44:02,260
What worries me is the politicization in the wake of a tragedy, and the harm that that does

2634
03:44:02,260 --> 03:44:09,640
to the communities that are already affected by gown violence, and my fears that it

2635
03:44:09,640 --> 03:44:10,700
the divide.

2636
03:44:12,900 --> 03:44:19,280
I can't say one thing that President Choi and I share in common is the frustration

2637
03:44:19,280 --> 03:44:27,180
with an action. I hear you. And to be honest, I think a lot of the public shares the same

2638
03:44:27,180 --> 03:44:30,640
frustration. I hear you too.

2639
03:44:33,080 --> 03:44:37,720
We don't have time to delay in our response to community

2640
03:44:37,720 --> 03:44:45,760
violence and violence prevention. I can say that, to Marcus Thomas Brown, Chief

2641
03:44:47,100 --> 03:44:55,320
Shlutie, you two are the heroes of this conversation. I've been so impressed with both of you.

2642
03:44:57,100 --> 03:44:59,980
Some of the positives that came from this.

2643
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:01,500
Adding

2644
03:45:05,310 --> 03:45:12,370
staffing down town, we've had some help from highway patrol working with Chief Shlutty.

2645
03:45:13,950 --> 03:45:23,930
I tend to get good feedback when there are officers on the street on foot interacting with people.

2646
03:45:24,990 --> 03:45:31,710
And I think that that has been more positive. This is a move towards community oriented policing.

2647
03:45:32,790 --> 03:45:40,810
and we need to move towards that and I support discussions surrounding addition of a dedicated

2648
03:45:40,810 --> 03:45:46,050
downtown unit because I think that also moves in that direction, police need to establish

2649
03:45:46,050 --> 03:45:51,630
a relationship and I think they've worked to do that and I'm giving credit where credits

2650
03:45:52,430 --> 03:46:07,370
I also think that the proactive enforcement has helped diffuse things before they become, oh my gosh, I lost the wording.

2651
03:46:08,170 --> 03:46:16,530
It's helped diffuse the situations before fights break out, and I have seen that be effective in the reports that we've received.

2652
03:46:17,790 --> 03:46:25,090
discussions that we've had that are positive that do something specific to prevent violence.

2653
03:46:26,930 --> 03:46:32,610
Lighting, traffic flow, this is crime prevention through environmental design.

2654
03:46:33,610 --> 03:46:37,030
Step 10, we talked about it a whole lot, not that long ago.

2655
03:46:38,510 --> 03:46:42,110
That's real, that's concrete, and it has effects.

2656
03:46:42,110 --> 03:46:56,810
Um, discouraging groups from forming after bar closing 1 p.m. 3 a.m. the discussions around food trucks and handling crowds.

2657
03:46:57,130 --> 03:46:59,870
I think that's a common sense safety measure.

2658
03:47:01,270 --> 03:47:05,570
I can't give enough attention to our violence prevention methods.

2659
03:47:05,570 --> 03:47:15,030
strengthening mental health, trauma-informed care, community engagement, youth programs

2660
03:47:15,030 --> 03:47:18,710
to divert people from getting involved in violence,

2661
03:47:21,110 --> 03:47:25,110
and also investing in societal factors

2662
03:47:25,110 --> 03:47:32,350
that lead to violence, providing economic opportunities, workforce training, job programs,

2663
03:47:32,350 --> 03:47:36,610
improving housing and making affordable housing available.

2664
03:47:38,390 --> 03:47:40,750
All of these things are things that we've struggled with.

2665
03:47:41,210 --> 03:47:43,570
I want to see investments there.

2666
03:47:46,850 --> 03:47:53,710
You know, in this moment that we have attention from

2667
03:47:55,470 --> 03:48:00,110
state legislators, if I can ask for one thing,

2668
03:48:00,110 --> 03:48:05,690
I would ask for expansion of the Mobile Crisis Response Team,

2669
03:48:06,450 --> 03:48:09,470
988 Mobile Crisis Response,

2670
03:48:09,950 --> 03:48:13,510
which was recently integrated with dispatch.

2671
03:48:15,890 --> 03:48:20,010
These are one of the few groups that I think

2672
03:48:20,750 --> 03:48:25,850
could effectively respond to some of the calls

2673
03:48:25,850 --> 03:48:28,050
that our police are having to deal with,

2674
03:48:28,050 --> 03:48:38,690
But may not involve our city ordinances, and may not be well prioritized because it's not

2675
03:48:38,690 --> 03:48:44,210
a police matter, and when they're dealing with crowd control on a football game weekend,

2676
03:48:45,390 --> 03:48:52,550
someone in a mental health crisis is a different priority call, and we can't change that,

2677
03:48:52,550 --> 03:49:01,710
especially if no laws have been violated, what we need is to be able to dispatch people where

2678
03:49:01,710 --> 03:49:12,550
they're needed and to serve as that front line response for that need, and I'd like

2679
03:49:12,550 --> 03:49:19,430
to see that well funded. I also think that the discussions we've had recently about the

2680
03:49:19,430 --> 03:49:26,510
my block program. Man, I've been hoping that would get attention for a long time. I think

2681
03:49:26,510 --> 03:49:32,350
this could really help put eyes on the ground and help make people feel more comfortable

2682
03:49:32,350 --> 03:49:38,930
just knowing that there's someone else there who can walk you to the car or telephone

2683
03:49:38,930 --> 03:49:47,810
a law enforcement officer, so I think that's a productive discussion, and I hope we put

2684
03:49:47,810 --> 03:49:55,770
our focus on productive proven techniques to deter violence,

2685
03:49:57,910 --> 03:49:59,970
so that's my piece, thank you.

2686
03:50:02,190 --> 03:50:18,250
So, I want to start by acknowledging a few of the wonderful things that have happened in our community between the last council meeting and this one, before getting into some of the heavy topics to cover tonight.

2687
03:50:18,250 --> 03:50:32,770
Since the last Council meeting, we started our newest round of the Civic Academy and have helped more of our residents of Columbia become educated and engaged with their community.

2688
03:50:33,470 --> 03:50:45,270
We welcomed United back to the Columbia Regional Airport and heard from the United Representative that he had never attended a celebration where the community showed as much support as we did here in Columbia.

2689
03:50:45,270 --> 03:50:52,650
We saw the Pride Fest and Pride Parade, which celebrated its 25th year in the community,

2690
03:50:53,250 --> 03:50:59,670
see incredible support and attendance, which proved that our community loves supports and

2691
03:50:59,670 --> 03:51:02,890
is accepted of the entire LGBTQ community.

2692
03:51:03,630 --> 03:51:11,530
I was deeply touched to particularly see people showing additional support for LGBTQ kids

2693
03:51:11,530 --> 03:51:15,070
in this moment of federal politics.

2694
03:51:16,290 --> 03:51:22,070
We also saw city departments, leaders, and outreach teams out and about all around town at

2695
03:51:22,070 --> 03:51:29,630
festivals, at events, in hallways, sharing information about our resources, services, and

2696
03:51:29,630 --> 03:51:30,870
engaging with the community.

2697
03:51:31,490 --> 03:51:37,390
I particularly enjoyed seeing the Office of Sustainability, send notes about how they were participating

2698
03:51:37,390 --> 03:51:41,150
in week without driving and what that meant for their staff.

2699
03:51:42,370 --> 03:51:48,990
I also want to take a brief note away from Columbia for just a second to say that my

2700
03:51:48,990 --> 03:51:54,630
thoughts, prayers and grief have been with the community I lived in for three years in Hayes

2701
03:51:54,630 --> 03:51:57,350
Kansas for this last week as well.

2702
03:51:57,810 --> 03:52:03,330
Sergeant Scott Heiman was shot and killed on duty on September 28th, becoming the first

2703
03:52:03,330 --> 03:52:09,190
officer to be killed on duty in Hayes since the 1800s, back in the Wild West.

2704
03:52:09,710 --> 03:52:14,590
I had the honor of knowing Scott and his family very well in my time in Hayes.

2705
03:52:14,990 --> 03:52:19,550
He was a great man, a wonderful officer, and an even better husband and father.

2706
03:52:20,330 --> 03:52:25,550
And his death was a loss to the community of Hayes to the entire state of Kansas, where he

2707
03:52:25,550 --> 03:52:28,790
has been represented and acknowledged on the legislative floor.

2708
03:52:28,790 --> 03:52:35,510
and most importantly, to his wife and two young children, Beth, Victoria, and Patrick.

2709
03:52:36,670 --> 03:52:40,650
I am also mourning the death of Ayanna Williams, a Columbia native.

2710
03:52:41,550 --> 03:52:46,410
Ayanna was a beacon of light in Columbia and an absolute success story,

2711
03:52:46,930 --> 03:52:50,370
who knew she wanted to change and improve the world from an early age.

2712
03:52:51,030 --> 03:52:55,090
You'd be hard-pressed to find a local non-profit, arts organization,

2713
03:52:55,090 --> 03:53:03,850
or educator in our community who did not know and work with Iyana because she was everywhere in our community.

2714
03:53:03,970 --> 03:53:11,710
She was deeply involved and while I didn't know her myself, I have heard many stories of her life over the past week.

2715
03:53:12,070 --> 03:53:21,170
And I can tell you that she loved and was loved very deeply by this community. Her loss is an absolute tragedy for Columbia and

2716
03:53:21,170 --> 03:53:23,790
deserves to stand on its own.

2717
03:53:25,110 --> 03:53:26,510
There have been recent conversations

2718
03:53:26,510 --> 03:53:28,670
about violence and safety in our community,

2719
03:53:28,770 --> 03:53:30,430
particularly in the downtown area.

2720
03:53:31,470 --> 03:53:32,770
And while these conversations,

2721
03:53:32,770 --> 03:53:37,050
I truly believe, have been well-intentioned.

2722
03:53:37,310 --> 03:53:39,910
There are a few things that I like to keep in mind

2723
03:53:39,910 --> 03:53:42,570
when talking both about the crisis in our community

2724
03:53:42,570 --> 03:53:44,370
and potential solutions.

2725
03:53:45,290 --> 03:53:46,810
When we look at safety downtown,

2726
03:53:47,010 --> 03:53:50,510
we are looking at multiple intertwined and interconnected issues.

2727
03:53:50,510 --> 03:53:58,370
We are looking at gun violence, we are looking at our unhoused population, we are looking at traffic and pedestrian safety.

2728
03:53:59,590 --> 03:54:08,710
In my undergraduate years at Masu, I often joked that causation day was just as predictably on my class schedule as syllabus day and stop day.

2729
03:54:08,990 --> 03:54:18,750
Whether it was communications, psychology, statistics, or anthropology, I would have at least one day devoted to my professor teaching the difference between causation and correlation.

2730
03:54:18,750 --> 03:54:26,890
These three issues are all seen downtown because of high population density and high traffic

2731
03:54:26,890 --> 03:54:35,050
nightlife destinations. That does not mean they in any way cause each other and it does not mean

2732
03:54:35,050 --> 03:54:42,870
they can be fixed by the same solutions. We have to be specific about our solutions. What we are

2733
03:54:42,870 --> 03:54:49,710
to address and how we intend to fix it. And the best way to do that is to work with experts.

2734
03:54:50,130 --> 03:54:58,230
We have incredible local experts in our community who specialize in their areas and their specific

2735
03:54:58,230 --> 03:54:59,970
solutions. Who use...

2736
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:10,780
The best practices of the field and who can build on successes in other communities as we saw today in the presentation from the office of violence prevention.

2737
03:55:12,020 --> 03:55:20,260
I also think it's incredibly important to acknowledge the work of people who have come before us and people who are actively doing the work every single day in our community.

2738
03:55:20,260 --> 03:55:24,040
I've been using the phrase quiet work a lot this week.

2739
03:55:24,680 --> 03:55:27,060
Solutions are not always loud and immediate.

2740
03:55:28,000 --> 03:55:31,820
Sometimes, and most of the time, they are quiet and slow.

2741
03:55:33,000 --> 03:55:35,700
While it can sometimes be a piece of it,

2742
03:55:35,720 --> 03:55:40,320
Solutions don't always look like doubling or tripling the police footprint downtown.

2743
03:55:41,220 --> 03:55:44,620
Sometimes, it means doing the work of creating and changing policies,

2744
03:55:45,260 --> 03:55:47,640
putting in street lamps, offering social services,

2745
03:55:47,640 --> 03:55:50,360
and having hard conversations with our neighbors.

2746
03:55:51,320 --> 03:55:52,860
These are the holistic solutions

2747
03:55:52,860 --> 03:55:54,700
that Chief Shluty was talking about

2748
03:55:54,700 --> 03:55:56,060
at the beginning of the meeting.

2749
03:55:56,900 --> 03:55:59,520
And none of this is new or revolutionary in Columbia.

2750
03:56:00,340 --> 03:56:02,880
We know that public safety is a priority for a community

2751
03:56:02,880 --> 03:56:05,340
and our council for many years now.

2752
03:56:05,640 --> 03:56:07,720
We've heard a lot about the mayor's task force

2753
03:56:07,720 --> 03:56:10,220
on community violence that led to the development

2754
03:56:10,220 --> 03:56:12,060
of the Office of Violence Prevention.

2755
03:56:12,680 --> 03:56:16,240
Last meeting we heard about OVP and their upcoming

2756
03:56:16,240 --> 03:56:18,800
in ACEs and trauma-informed community education,

2757
03:56:19,400 --> 03:56:21,500
tonight we heard about many more initiatives.

2758
03:56:22,560 --> 03:56:25,240
City staff from across a variety of departments

2759
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:28,840
are all working on projects that improve public safety.

2760
03:56:29,620 --> 03:56:32,600
With the police department, we see our community service aids

2761
03:56:32,600 --> 03:56:34,340
and our homeless outreach teams.

2762
03:56:35,000 --> 03:56:37,080
With Parks and Rec, we see summer camps,

2763
03:56:37,480 --> 03:56:39,400
basketball teams, and the care program

2764
03:56:39,400 --> 03:56:41,780
that offer opportunities for youth and young adults

2765
03:56:41,780 --> 03:56:43,520
to make safe and healthy choices.

2766
03:56:43,520 --> 03:56:53,140
Sustainability has outreach about high heat areas, tree planting, community gardens that increase mental and physical health and have immediate impact on public safety.

2767
03:56:53,900 --> 03:56:58,840
The Municipal Court has the community support docket. Public health has mental health support.

2768
03:56:58,980 --> 03:57:04,280
The Commission to Insexual Violence, the Mental Health Task Force, substance use prevention and intervention.

2769
03:57:04,280 --> 03:57:10,460
Even our complete streets policies, which are in the process of being updated, address many

2770
03:57:10,460 --> 03:57:15,640
of the issues that we have heard about tonight, like lighting, parking, and pedestrian areas.

2771
03:57:16,720 --> 03:57:21,360
Community-based organizations that Damarkis was talking about are working to reduce

2772
03:57:21,360 --> 03:57:24,140
silence and are working to help our unhouse neighbors.

2773
03:57:25,000 --> 03:57:28,280
As Damarkis said, we are not new to this work.

2774
03:57:28,280 --> 03:57:38,680
We want to support the active programs in our community and build on their success rather than reinventing the wheel and trying to figure it out all on our own.

2775
03:57:39,360 --> 03:57:49,420
If you are not seeing that work in our community every day, I encourage you, follow the City Social Media, sign up to get the press releases emailed to you,

2776
03:57:49,420 --> 03:57:54,620
Talk to your city council representative and volunteer with the city or a local organization

2777
03:57:54,620 --> 03:58:01,660
because I promise this work is happening every day and it takes more hands to see the success

2778
03:58:01,660 --> 03:58:05,300
and it takes more support. Thank you.

2779
03:58:07,560 --> 03:58:10,900
Okay. One thing I'll say for the next meeting.

2780
03:58:13,360 --> 03:58:17,220
The 2014 Mayors Task Force and Community Violence Recommendations.

2781
03:58:19,400 --> 03:58:26,640
I would like to request if other council members are in agreement, a report that discusses

2782
03:58:26,640 --> 03:58:28,680
what suggestions were implemented.

2783
03:58:29,040 --> 03:58:31,340
I believe there was a report you told me earlier, 2020.

2784
03:58:31,740 --> 03:58:35,640
Again, November and 2016, there was an update from Stephanie Brown from Public Health

2785
03:58:35,640 --> 03:58:39,700
and Human Services as a special item, but I don't know if there was an attachment with it or

2786
03:58:39,700 --> 03:58:45,780
anything like that. So. There wasn't an attachment with the report and I would agree. It'd be nice to get an update on that.

2787
03:58:45,780 --> 03:58:56,440
Yeah, so if we could just get an update from the suggestions that were made in the 2014 plan, just so we know if things were implemented or if they were barriers to them being implemented.

2788
03:58:57,340 --> 03:58:59,820
That would be a request that I would like to make.

2789
03:59:00,480 --> 03:59:04,840
And then additionally, I typed out what I want to say next because I wanted to make sure I was organized.

2790
03:59:06,480 --> 03:59:11,600
Okay, it's in the same kind of thought process of everybody else this evening.

2791
03:59:12,800 --> 03:59:19,300
Freedom of speech is a cherished right, but as has been said often lately, there's no freedom

2792
03:59:19,300 --> 03:59:20,360
from the consequences.

2793
03:59:21,780 --> 03:59:24,620
Right now the consequences are being felt most by our children.

2794
03:59:25,860 --> 03:59:29,840
They're watching, learning, and absorbing how adults handle conflict.

2795
03:59:29,840 --> 03:59:37,920
And, fortunately, what they see too often is name calling, superficial insults, and rhetoric that edges toward violence.

2796
03:59:38,940 --> 03:59:47,320
They cannot do better until we do better. Words are no longer only words. They do not disappear when spoken.

2797
03:59:48,020 --> 03:59:54,140
They linger, they echo, and too often they are weaponized long after they are stated or typed.

2798
03:59:55,020 --> 03:59:59,980
Every citizen carries responsibility not only to condemn acts of physical community.

2799
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,140
But also to reject the language, behaviors and actions that fuel and insight that violence, call it out, do not allow it.

2800
04:00:11,680 --> 04:00:18,520
grief expresses itself in many ways, sorrow, despair, anger, and fear.

2801
04:00:19,720 --> 04:00:25,360
When people are scared, they sometimes act in survival mode, but I urge our community to resist

2802
04:00:25,360 --> 04:00:31,520
the pull to act on fear in ways that displace or project anger onto the wrong targets.

2803
04:00:32,380 --> 04:00:37,520
In my opinion, our anger belongs squarely with those who choose to commit crimes that harm

2804
04:00:37,520 --> 04:00:44,100
our citizens. If we direct that anger at our helpers, those who are working to solve problems

2805
04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:49,720
and keep our community safe, we risk losing them. And if we lose them, we create more

2806
04:00:49,720 --> 04:00:57,160
danger for our city. Let me be clear. I'm not asking anyone to agree with everything they're

2807
04:00:57,160 --> 04:01:02,180
elected and appointed leaders say or do. What I'm asking is that we step away from device

2808
04:01:02,180 --> 04:01:07,340
rhetoric that we have hard conversations without finger pointing and personal attacks.

2809
04:01:08,020 --> 04:01:12,180
And that we support the team working on the very same concerns that our citizens hold.

2810
04:01:12,960 --> 04:01:18,780
Provide feedback, offer suggestions, but do not allow hate to drown out hope.

2811
04:01:19,860 --> 04:01:25,040
Our children deserve to see us modeling the kind of community we want them to build in

2812
04:01:25,040 --> 04:01:25,620
the future.

2813
04:01:26,340 --> 04:01:30,920
Let's show them how to disagree without destruction, how to hold one other accountable

2814
04:01:30,920 --> 04:01:32,860
without tearing each other down,

2815
04:01:33,160 --> 04:01:36,560
and how to turn grief into progress instead of division.

2816
04:01:38,040 --> 04:01:40,440
Becky, thank you, Foster.

2817
04:01:43,060 --> 04:01:45,280
Well sometimes I wonder, especially at this hour,

2818
04:01:45,280 --> 04:01:47,580
how many people are still listening out there.

2819
04:01:48,180 --> 04:01:50,780
But I'm also reminded that this is a meeting of the city council

2820
04:01:51,340 --> 04:01:53,040
and at this point in the meeting,

2821
04:01:53,700 --> 04:01:58,100
the leadership of the city and the form of our department heads

2822
04:01:58,100 --> 04:02:00,920
is here for as long as we keep them.

2823
04:02:02,240 --> 04:02:06,840
I won't keep you long, but I do want to share a few words about how I see leadership.

2824
04:02:07,160 --> 04:02:13,320
Tonight, we swore in two new leaders as a part of our team here at the city.

2825
04:02:14,480 --> 04:02:19,080
And I hear a few thoughts that I have about how we model leadership.

2826
04:02:20,780 --> 04:02:25,080
In a recent interview, former New Zealand Prime Minister, just in our turn,

2827
04:02:25,080 --> 04:02:27,440
was asked about how power is being used currently

2828
04:02:27,440 --> 04:02:29,420
in the political realm and in response,

2829
04:02:29,840 --> 04:02:31,920
she asked, what is power?

2830
04:02:32,700 --> 04:02:34,600
In my mind, it's responsibility.

2831
04:02:35,820 --> 04:02:39,300
I very much appreciate her perspective and I share it.

2832
04:02:39,620 --> 04:02:42,220
If a leader elected, appointed, or otherwise,

2833
04:02:42,900 --> 04:02:44,560
sees their position as a place primarily

2834
04:02:44,560 --> 04:02:49,120
of enforceable power, then they are more likely

2835
04:02:49,120 --> 04:02:52,380
to act out of that power and service to their own self-interest

2836
04:02:52,380 --> 04:02:54,600
or for the sake of power alone.

2837
04:02:55,700 --> 04:03:09,140
So, if I take my role as an electric, as an electric leader, seriously, as being entrusted with the responsibility to act in the best interests of my constituents in my community, I will be more likely to act responsibly.

2838
04:03:10,320 --> 04:03:17,480
In this way, I am less likely to act either impulsively or strategically in an exercise of power over others.

2839
04:03:18,740 --> 04:03:22,300
As a responsible leader, I must make a commitment to maintain trust.

2840
04:03:22,300 --> 04:03:36,880
and to act in good faith is my responsibility to be honest in my assessments, to be as informed as possible and to be as willing and to be a willing partner both in finding and in moving forward toward progress and solutions.

2841
04:03:38,180 --> 04:03:47,300
If I break the trust of someone with whom I work with those who are impacted by my decisions or with partners with whom I share responsibility in this community.

2842
04:03:47,300 --> 04:03:53,440
If I act impulsively without doing my due diligence to being fully informed, and especially if

2843
04:03:53,440 --> 04:03:58,620
I mislead anyone with faulty information, then I will have acted irresponsibly.

2844
04:03:59,660 --> 04:04:01,020
I'm not alone in this.

2845
04:04:01,160 --> 04:04:05,280
I need to remember that I have the resources of others to rely on.

2846
04:04:05,540 --> 04:04:10,000
People who are far better prepared than I and who know more than I do about their areas of

2847
04:04:10,000 --> 04:04:16,000
expertise and interest, and it is reasonable not only to look to them for input, but to take

2848
04:04:16,000 --> 04:04:23,500
perspective, seriously. It's the responsible thing to do. We are all, of course, human,

2849
04:04:23,780 --> 04:04:29,240
and we are often inclined to act in self-interest. When we set a high bar for ourselves,

2850
04:04:29,480 --> 04:04:36,260
to act responsibly, each one of us will inevitably fall short. This may not be the end of the story.

2851
04:04:37,440 --> 04:04:42,720
If and when trust is broken, it is imperative that there be a desire on the part of each person

2852
04:04:42,720 --> 04:04:50,600
involved to seek repair. That will require an additional level of outreach honesty and compassion.

2853
04:04:51,740 --> 04:04:58,020
I'm calling on us to recommit ourselves to the common good for our community, to acting in good faith,

2854
04:04:58,500 --> 04:04:59,980
to maintaining honest relationship.

2855
04:05:00,800 --> 04:05:04,840
And to being the responsible leaders needed in difficult times.

2856
04:05:12,370 --> 04:05:16,950
Okay, well, first I'd like to thank you all for being on the City Council with me.

2857
04:05:17,070 --> 04:05:20,630
It's been an interesting experience to listen to all of you, very articulate.

2858
04:05:21,170 --> 04:05:25,730
And I think you've covered every topic that I can think of, so I'm not going to repeat anything.

2859
04:05:26,730 --> 04:05:33,690
I would like to thank the staff who, as has been pointed out, does the work, the quiet work, and the day-to-day work.

2860
04:05:33,690 --> 04:05:39,750
So thank you for that and for stepping up to the plate and just for continuing what we've been working on in the past.

2861
04:05:40,350 --> 04:05:42,330
And I have nothing else to say.

2862
04:05:42,430 --> 04:05:43,170
Thank you.

2863
04:05:43,310 --> 04:05:44,270
Thanks, Betsy.

2864
04:05:45,470 --> 04:05:48,530
Well, I, yes, I'm the one who's like it's 11 o'clock at night.

2865
04:05:48,530 --> 04:05:51,430
We should stop talking because no y'all want to go home.

2866
04:05:51,550 --> 04:05:54,030
Some of you have deadlines and needs to hit the presses.

2867
04:05:54,390 --> 04:05:55,290
That's not a thing anymore.

2868
04:05:56,230 --> 04:06:23,110
I'll just say as the recipient of a lot of the attention over the last few weeks, I have nothing but thanks to my fellow council members for checking on me for the city staff for informing me for making sure that I'm both protected and safe but also informed on what it is that we're already working on.

2869
04:06:23,110 --> 04:06:33,130
I especially what I think Chief Sludy, who has an amazing amount of patience for sitting in rooms with people telling her how to do her job.

2870
04:06:33,870 --> 04:06:36,650
And then for just saying, yes, we're working on that.

2871
04:06:37,250 --> 04:06:39,670
And we've been working on that for the last few months.

2872
04:06:39,770 --> 04:06:43,030
I just want to say show tremendous patience with that.

2873
04:06:43,050 --> 04:06:44,390
And I appreciate that.

2874
04:06:44,390 --> 04:06:49,350
Also to your command staff for maybe biting your tongue, deputy chief,

2875
04:06:49,350 --> 04:06:57,590
even sometimes in meetings, but showing that attention to detail and the data informed

2876
04:06:57,590 --> 04:07:02,550
decisions that you're making to change how it is we're responding to community issues,

2877
04:07:02,750 --> 04:07:04,110
not just downtown issues.

2878
04:07:04,570 --> 04:07:09,810
And I just want to show my appreciation for that, for Demarcus Thomas Brown, for his passion,

2879
04:07:10,450 --> 04:07:15,270
but also working with us and understanding some of the ways that we can interject as a council

2880
04:07:15,270 --> 04:07:15,950
support.

2881
04:07:16,790 --> 04:07:21,090
I'll say, you know, we recently went to Columbia, South Carolina on the Chamber of Commerce Leadership

2882
04:07:21,090 --> 04:07:21,590
Trip.

2883
04:07:22,010 --> 04:07:26,290
And it's just a fantastic opportunity to learn from a pure city who are going through a lot

2884
04:07:26,290 --> 04:07:27,130
of the same issues.

2885
04:07:27,590 --> 04:07:29,290
There are just a few years ahead of us.

2886
04:07:29,690 --> 04:07:33,870
And some of those takeaways that I had were actually on my last day lunch, I think, to

2887
04:07:33,870 --> 04:07:38,290
literally a map for organizing that counterparts all got together was the mayor, the mayor,

2888
04:07:38,530 --> 04:07:41,510
the Office of Violence Prevention, Office of Violence Prevention, the City Manager, City

2889
04:07:41,510 --> 04:07:41,970
Manager.

2890
04:07:41,970 --> 04:07:47,570
Deputy Chief and the Police Chief, us all getting together to talk about these issues or

2891
04:07:47,570 --> 04:07:51,370
district director and district director, sorry Nikki. I'll talk about the issues that we're

2892
04:07:51,370 --> 04:07:56,430
experiencing and what they're working on. And it reminded me something that Fire Chief Brian

2893
04:07:56,430 --> 04:08:01,550
Chief heard told me, he's like, you're a city now. These are city problems. You're no longer

2894
04:08:01,550 --> 04:08:06,450
just a town. And so to me it's looking at what they've done and they're learned from there. They

2895
04:08:06,450 --> 04:08:10,990
talk about as their growth has happened. They plan in a resource accordingly, whether that's

2896
04:08:10,990 --> 04:08:13,450
staffing within police or officer violence prevention,

2897
04:08:13,970 --> 04:08:15,770
having things like homeless outreach employees

2898
04:08:15,770 --> 04:08:17,570
that are doing some of that ground work

2899
04:08:17,570 --> 04:08:19,210
to help people get people to services,

2900
04:08:19,590 --> 04:08:22,130
and it's having the services for people to connect with.

2901
04:08:22,830 --> 04:08:26,790
We're right now in a time where funding is being cut.

2902
04:08:27,070 --> 04:08:28,890
There's a slide earlier where it showed our budget

2903
04:08:28,890 --> 04:08:30,770
for that public health and human services,

2904
04:08:31,190 --> 04:08:33,490
but what it failed to show is that the majority

2905
04:08:33,490 --> 04:08:35,770
of that funding is grant funding that comes from the state

2906
04:08:35,770 --> 04:08:36,910
and from the federal government.

2907
04:08:37,750 --> 04:08:38,990
And so while it might look really big,

2908
04:08:39,130 --> 04:08:40,410
we rely a lot on those partners

2909
04:08:40,410 --> 04:08:42,350
to help our community be healthy and safe.

2910
04:08:42,850 --> 04:08:44,270
And so as those funding are being cut,

2911
04:08:44,290 --> 04:08:45,930
it's important more now than ever

2912
04:08:45,930 --> 04:08:47,610
to tell the story of the impact

2913
04:08:47,610 --> 04:08:49,150
of what it is we're working on.

2914
04:08:49,550 --> 04:08:51,830
So I just want to say thank you to everyone.

2915
04:08:52,970 --> 04:08:56,990
That weekend was a lot of, a lot was going on.

2916
04:08:57,230 --> 04:09:01,790
And my heart was broken by the loss of a young woman.

2917
04:09:02,490 --> 04:09:04,630
But for me, it's how do we then move forward

2918
04:09:04,630 --> 04:09:06,390
and make sure it doesn't happen again.

2919
04:09:07,370 --> 04:09:09,750
And so with that, I was asked

2920
04:09:09,750 --> 04:09:12,150
by President Choy to form a task force.

2921
04:09:12,330 --> 04:09:13,650
And I was wanting to be responsive.

2922
04:09:14,310 --> 04:09:17,110
But then I don't want to do another task force.

2923
04:09:17,350 --> 04:09:18,370
Y'all, I'm one of the ones who's trying

2924
04:09:18,370 --> 04:09:20,250
to cut boards and commissions so that we have

2925
04:09:20,250 --> 04:09:22,270
like more efficient use of time.

2926
04:09:22,770 --> 04:09:24,970
So but actually coming back from South Carolina,

2927
04:09:25,250 --> 04:09:27,070
you know, one thing I did realize one voice

2928
04:09:27,070 --> 04:09:30,090
that is missing, and that is the voice

2929
04:09:30,090 --> 04:09:34,230
of our young, especially kind of university age students.

2930
04:09:34,850 --> 04:09:35,870
And the mayor of South Carolina

2931
04:09:35,870 --> 04:09:37,690
has something called the Collegiate Council,

2932
04:09:37,690 --> 04:09:42,870
which is representatives of the higher education institutions that he meets with monthly is like

2933
04:09:42,870 --> 04:09:47,870
what's going on. And so I've asked him for more information on that. So I think that's the

2934
04:09:47,870 --> 04:09:53,470
direction I'm going because we're already bringing together property owners, business owners, staff, and experts

2935
04:09:53,470 --> 04:09:58,210
on this issue. I don't want to have another meeting to have another report that in four years we may be

2936
04:09:58,210 --> 04:09:59,970
of you and look at again, it's...

2937
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:04,300
Just more of how do we, we're already working on the work. We're getting it done. How do we communicate

2938
04:10:04,300 --> 04:10:09,120
out what we're doing? So I think the follow-up to what did we talk about last week in the press release

2939
04:10:09,120 --> 04:10:13,760
with President Joy. What have we done since then? We need to prayer in for that. But how are we

2940
04:10:13,760 --> 04:10:19,780
then pushing forward? So our future generations have hope that you all mentioned. So I just want to say

2941
04:10:19,780 --> 04:10:25,020
thanks for the support of everyone up here and for our community, because I think we do show up for one another.

2942
04:10:25,020 --> 04:10:28,280
So with that, I'll see if there are any staff report to Carlin.

2943
04:10:29,980 --> 04:10:30,920
That's hard to follow.

2944
04:10:33,200 --> 04:10:36,400
No, so I do want to thank the City Council.

2945
04:10:36,720 --> 04:10:40,300
I mean, you've said some things for about our staff,

2946
04:10:40,560 --> 04:10:41,740
that a lot of people don't recognize.

2947
04:10:42,720 --> 04:10:45,260
No, when we talk about issues,

2948
04:10:46,080 --> 04:10:50,080
when we talk about how do we stand in front of everything that's going on.

2949
04:10:51,340 --> 04:10:53,340
No, as a staff, we collaborate.

2950
04:10:53,340 --> 04:11:02,760
We sit down. We have two true conversations about what are we working on. We meet and meet and meet and I think sometimes I get tired of hearing me because we meet again

2951
04:11:02,760 --> 04:11:06,080
But we look at what are the true solutions and

2952
04:11:07,040 --> 04:11:10,420
Don't recognize in that there is a lot of work that's being done and

2953
04:11:11,160 --> 04:11:17,060
Wow people may not see it because it's being done as we're as we're moving forward

2954
04:11:17,060 --> 04:11:20,900
It has been done. No, when we talk about law enforcement

2955
04:11:20,900 --> 04:11:28,720
know, being able to start a our own academy to help us recruit and hire and retain police officers

2956
04:11:28,720 --> 04:11:36,120
was a phenomenal process. The fact that we invested in technology to update our process so we have

2957
04:11:36,120 --> 04:11:41,980
better camera systems that our officers are very equipped. Those are important. The fact that we

2958
04:11:41,980 --> 04:11:47,960
stood up on office on violence prevention in a time when people were actually reducing our

2959
04:11:47,960 --> 04:11:49,880
It's not looking at those processes.

2960
04:11:50,580 --> 04:11:53,440
The fact that, I don't know, we have a homeless outreach team.

2961
04:11:53,880 --> 04:11:54,840
We have the different programs.

2962
04:11:55,000 --> 04:11:58,120
We're really trying to work hard to improve our community.

2963
04:11:58,960 --> 04:12:02,020
Now, when we looked at what's going on our strategic plan,

2964
04:12:02,320 --> 04:12:06,000
and understanding that, yeah, it's probably time to redo it.

2965
04:12:06,280 --> 04:12:08,860
The idea was to really make sure that we made impacts

2966
04:12:08,860 --> 04:12:09,640
for our community.

2967
04:12:10,700 --> 04:12:13,200
And so, I do want to thank you for recognizing that.

2968
04:12:13,460 --> 04:12:15,880
I want to thank our staff for the hard work that they do.

2969
04:12:15,880 --> 04:12:26,360
No, it's tomorrow morning we'll start meeting again at 9 o'clock to have our first meeting to talk about tonight and then we plan on how to

2970
04:12:26,360 --> 04:12:35,580
We move forward. And so it is a lot of work. We don't do it because of pay. We do it because we enjoy it. We do it because we care about our community.

2971
04:12:36,080 --> 04:12:41,960
We do it because we care about people and so for that that's all ended. So just thank you.

2972
04:12:41,960 --> 04:12:44,240
We didn't see anything, we didn't see anything.

2973
04:12:44,980 --> 04:12:46,800
All right, I'll go ahead and adjourn us, 11-12.