1 00:00:11,828 --> 00:00:11,995 Test. 2 00:00:11,995 --> 00:00:14,131 >> mayor: lengths get the meeting started. 3 00:00:14,131 --> 00:00:19,669 Good morning, I would like to welcome everyone to the june 11, 2024, commission meeting. 4 00:00:19,669 --> 00:00:20,137 I'll reiterate. 5 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:22,720 We're blessed to have you here today. 6 00:00:22,172 --> 00:00:27,944 We hope if you have any questioners, concerns or ideas you can voice them here at the commission. 7 00:00:27,944 --> 00:00:30,147 We have multiple opportunities for that to happen. 8 00:00:30,147 --> 00:00:34,618 If you're not here, we hope to hear from out on zoom or through the phone. 9 00:00:34,618 --> 00:00:39,556 Please feel free to call and we'll more than welcome to have you. 10 00:00:39,556 --> 00:00:49,599 We would like to get started by welcoming this morning chaplain jerry beverly from the fellowship of christian athletes at the university of miami. 11 00:00:49,599 --> 00:00:50,100 Join us. 12 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,805 This is the first time that you and I have the pleasure of meeting each other. 13 00:00:54,805 --> 00:00:56,273 >> it's a blessing. 14 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:56,706 Thank you. 15 00:00:56,706 --> 00:01:00,944 Can I help us in prayer? 16 00:01:00,944 --> 00:01:10,200 >> mayor: yes, sir. 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,230 >> okay. 18 00:01:13,230 --> 00:01:14,558 Okay, let us pray. 19 00:01:14,558 --> 00:01:17,600 Oh god, we come before you with gratitude this morning. 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:24,670 We thank you for being a god who loves us. 21 00:01:24,234 --> 00:01:27,704 Thank you for everyone that's in this room right now. 22 00:01:27,704 --> 00:01:32,843 Thank you that you never leave us or forsake us, lord. 23 00:01:32,843 --> 00:01:37,347 Your grace has brought us thus far and your grace will bring us home. 24 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:45,956 We thank you for calling us here in these positions to be good stewards of your creation and to love our neighbors as ourselves. 25 00:01:45,956 --> 00:01:58,368 I thank you this morning, god, for these, your servants, our mere, our city managers, our city staff, our city council members. 26 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:01,605 Help us, lord, to entries you more each day. 27 00:02:01,605 --> 00:02:10,947 May we learn to lien on your ever kansas city lasting 28 00:02:10,947 --> 00:02:11,515 may we learn to lien on your ever kansas city laslasting arm. 29 00:02:11,515 --> 00:02:21,240 We pray your kingdom will come in coral gables. 30 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:29,320 We pray for wisdom, for strength, for courage to do what is right and good for all of our citizens. 31 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:36,940 We may put the interest of others above our own, we may act with love for our common good. 32 00:02:36,940 --> 00:02:41,111 May we be good neighbors, recognizing your image in every percent. 33 00:02:41,111 --> 00:02:53,924 We thank you again for this council, our mayor, our city staff, our first responders, our hospital staff and all those who work to make this place coral gables, we call home such a wonderful city. 34 00:02:53,924 --> 00:03:05,680 In the name of the father, the son, the holy spirt, who perfectly loves us and sets us free from all our fears. 35 00:03:05,502 --> 00:03:05,669 Amen. 36 00:03:05,669 --> 00:03:06,636 >> mayor: amen. 37 00:03:06,636 --> 00:03:08,939 Chaplain, thank you for being here with us. 38 00:03:08,939 --> 00:03:14,110 We extend our best wishes to your congregation and look forward to have you again. 39 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:15,545 >> god bless. 40 00:03:15,545 --> 00:03:17,113 >> mayor: now the pledge. 41 00:03:17,113 --> 00:03:21,585 Commissioner castro, will you please do us the honor. 42 00:03:21,585 --> 00:03:45,609 [pledge of allegiance] >> mayor: moving on to presentations and protocols. 43 00:03:45,609 --> 00:03:52,315 A1, congratulations to the fire department special response team. 44 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:53,830 >> good morning, sir. 45 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:54,170 >> mayor: thank you for being here. 46 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:54,751 >> good morning. 47 00:03:54,751 --> 00:03:55,850 Good morning. 48 00:03:55,850 --> 00:04:09,299 >> good morning. 49 00:04:09,299 --> 00:04:13,803 This morning, I'm very proud to recognize our special response team. 50 00:04:13,803 --> 00:04:18,308 They're also known as the vehicle extradition team. 51 00:04:18,308 --> 00:04:26,316 We competed in a competition hosted by palm beach county, palm beach county f fire-rescue. 52 00:04:26,316 --> 00:04:31,921 There were teams represented from all over the state of florida, some as far as canada came to the competition. 53 00:04:31,921 --> 00:04:35,792 The team placed and performed exceptionally well. 54 00:04:35,792 --> 00:04:39,896 This team is known for performing well at the highest levels. 55 00:04:39,896 --> 00:04:45,468 They're recognized around the world as one of the best teams in vehicle extraction. 56 00:04:45,468 --> 00:04:49,172 I want to welcome the members here and some of the past members supporting them. 57 00:04:49,172 --> 00:04:55,912 We have driver engineer nick -- the team coordinator. 58 00:04:55,912 --> 00:04:58,480 [speaker off mic] driver engineer hill. 59 00:04:58,281 --> 00:05:08,158 We have miguel fernandez who serves as the team paramedic, and the incident commander of the team and team lead ser on vacation, but that's captain chris. 60 00:05:08,158 --> 00:05:10,627 He wishes he could be here today. 61 00:05:10,627 --> 00:05:14,564 The scenarios in these competitions are broken into three different scenarios. 62 00:05:14,564 --> 00:05:16,990 One is called unlimited. 63 00:05:16,499 --> 00:05:25,675 That means that the team can use all of the equipment at their disposal, including heavy hydraulic equipment which is known as the jaws of life. 64 00:05:25,675 --> 00:05:31,648 The limited scenario is they can't use the jaws of life, they have to use other types of hand tools and what not. 65 00:05:31,648 --> 00:05:48,310 In the rapid scenario, where they have to get a patient out that is decompromising really fast and have to get him out in 10 minutes n this competition, they came in first place, first place in the limited scenario, third in the limented scenario, 66 00:05:48,198 --> 00:05:50,400 and third in the rap tied scenario. 67 00:05:50,400 --> 00:06:01,344 We also had the best paramedic in the competing, which is niko fernandez, and the best incident commander, which is the captain chris. 68 00:06:01,344 --> 00:06:04,714 These are the situations they deal with. 69 00:06:04,714 --> 00:06:07,830 These aren't normal fender benders that you see. 70 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:09,180 We respond to car accidents every day. 71 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:25,468 You might see this, say it won't happen, but scenarios like this happen in the real world. 72 00:06:25,468 --> 00:06:36,346 If you're unfortunate enough to get into a car accident, the place to have it is in the city of coral gables because these gentlemen perform at the highest level awrmdz. 73 00:06:36,346 --> 00:06:38,148 We've been doing it a long time. 74 00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:59,369 We've been in the business of competing since the early '90's, so when it manies could to the best teams in the world, coral gables is in that conversation. 75 00:06:59,369 --> 00:07:07,811 With that, I wanted to recognize their team and a round of applause for their great performance in palm beach county. 76 00:07:07,811 --> 00:07:08,411 >> mayor: congratulations. 77 00:07:08,411 --> 00:07:11,714 Thank you for always shining a great light on the city of coral gables. 78 00:07:11,714 --> 00:07:15,840 If anybody would like to say a few words, you're more than welcome. 79 00:07:15,518 --> 00:07:20,319 If not, let's take a 80 00:08:25,210 --> 00:08:38,340 item a2, congratulations to firefighter richard fernandez recipient of the city of coral gables firefighter of the month award for may 2024. 81 00:08:38,167 --> 00:08:45,642 >> now we're recognizing driver engineer richards, ricky fernandez, another firefighter of the month for the month of may. 82 00:08:45,642 --> 00:08:55,510 Ricky has been with the fire department now for 32 years and sadly for us and our residents, ricky is set to retire next month, so he only has a handful of shifts left. 83 00:08:55,510 --> 00:09:01,991 We wanted to make sure he was recognized before he departed the city next month. 84 00:09:01,991 --> 00:09:02,492 . 85 00:09:02,492 --> 00:09:11,367 Ricky has excelled in his career throughout the fire service. 86 00:09:11,367 --> 00:09:19,108 He's knowledgeable, dedicated, organized, hard working, these are words recognize. 87 00:09:19,108 --> 00:09:20,944 He's only made the department better. 88 00:09:20,944 --> 00:09:22,812 He's a student of the fire service. 89 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:26,820 He's taught at the fire academy for many, many years. 90 00:09:26,349 --> 00:09:40,596 He's sought after around the world as a subject matter experts in topics like vehicle extraction, swift water rescue, incident command, and a whole menu of other disciplines that he's an expert at. 91 00:09:40,596 --> 00:09:48,972 He's one of the original members of the extraction team and one of the reasons the team has performed at the highest level that they do. 92 00:09:48,972 --> 00:09:59,312 With that, I'm going to miss you, rick, next month, and I want to give you the firefighter of the month for may. 93 00:10:03,353 --> 00:10:05,388 [applause] >> mayor: good morning, congratulations. 94 00:10:05,388 --> 00:10:05,855 >> good morning. 95 00:10:05,855 --> 00:10:07,690 Thank you, mayor, thank you, commissioners. 96 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:10,260 Thank you, chief, kind, kind words. 97 00:10:10,159 --> 00:10:15,565 It's going to be sad to leave, but I'm very happy with what I've accomplished in the city. 98 00:10:15,565 --> 00:10:21,370 You're only as good as your coworkers, and we wouldn't be so good. 99 00:10:21,370 --> 00:10:23,139 So I appreciate the award. 100 00:10:23,139 --> 00:10:36,190 It's nice, I received it when I first started my career in the early '90s for the work I did with ems and it's nice to get it as I'm leaving, retiring. 101 00:10:36,190 --> 00:10:38,388 Thank you very much. 102 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:40,490 >> mayor: congratulations. 103 00:10:40,490 --> 00:10:44,327 I hope you enjoy your retirement, well-deserved. 104 00:10:44,327 --> 00:10:45,280 >> thank you very much. 105 00:10:45,161 --> 00:10:49,462 >> mayor: thank you for your 106 00:11:42,885 --> 00:11:56,599 moving on to item a3, congratulations of captain gregory atwood recipient of the city of coral gables firefightern't month award for june 2024. 107 00:11:56,599 --> 00:12:01,838 >> recognize captain greg atwood another firefighter of the month for the month of june. 108 00:12:01,838 --> 00:12:14,500 On mother's day, he was celebrating with his family at a local restaurant and he noticed a commotion at the restaurant, and he noticed that there was an elderly woman choking at the restaurant. 109 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:25,561 Captain atwood jumped into action, he went and assisted with performing abdominal thrust, also known as the heimlich maneuver. 110 00:12:25,561 --> 00:12:33,870 At first, it wasn't working and the patient collapsed and went into cardiac arrest. 111 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:46,582 He started cpr, it helps to relief the obstruction that started this whole mess in the first place, so he began cpr until miami-dade fire-rescue arrived at the scene. 112 00:12:46,582 --> 00:12:55,391 He continued patient care, assisting miami-dade rescue, which was successful and the patient did regain a pulse and was transported to the hospital. 113 00:12:55,391 --> 00:13:07,690 I don't know what the final outcome of the patient was, she was transported to a hospital out of our jurisdiction, but she left with a pulse and a a fighting chance. 114 00:13:07,470 --> 00:13:17,446 We were informed by a police officer on the scene and he was really impacted by the performance that captain atwood displayed that afternoon. 115 00:13:17,446 --> 00:13:36,182 It was officer reyes, he came to the fire station on hiss own time to speak to a supervisor to make sure he was properly commended and the supervisor on duty was commander atwood. 116 00:13:36,182 --> 00:13:43,856 The he got ahold of the battalion and I nominated him for this. 117 00:13:43,856 --> 00:13:50,960 Police officer's words were he played a direct role in the survival of this patient. 118 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:57,735 Without his intervention, she probably would not have survived so with that, we honor captain atwood today. 119 00:14:01,707 --> 00:14:03,442 [applause] >> thank you, sir. 120 00:14:03,442 --> 00:14:04,443 Thank you to chief. 121 00:14:04,443 --> 00:14:05,878 Thank you, commission. 122 00:14:05,878 --> 00:14:08,314 Just want to say thank you very much. 123 00:14:08,314 --> 00:14:09,982 I'm honored, I'm humbled. 124 00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:19,910 Like my chief, chief hernandez said, I hope the outcome was a positive one. 125 00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:21,560 Thank you v very much. 126 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,928 >> mayor: thank you, sir. 127 00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:41,374 >> mayor: moving on to the next item, a4, congratulations to officer julio gonzalez, recipient for the city of coral gables officer of the month for february 2024. 128 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:41,774 Chief, good morning. 129 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:49,482 >> good morning. 130 00:15:49,482 --> 00:16:16,750 >> rowdy bunch out there today. 131 00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:19,111 >> good morning, everybody. 132 00:16:19,111 --> 00:16:31,157 Again, these are to be able to celebrate the work of what our officers do every day, I take great pride in that, always have for the 40 years I've been in law enforcement. 133 00:16:31,157 --> 00:16:38,831 Today, we're here to honor officer julio gonzalez as the officer of the month for february 2024. 134 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:54,246 Back in february, approximately 12:10 in the morning willing, , when everybody's sleeping, officer gonzalez observed two males walking in the 3900 block of lejeune road. 135 00:16:54,246 --> 00:17:02,688 They became very suspicious as he was going through his patrol, as we had some break-ins at different houses or caster, which was the bigger issue. 136 00:17:02,688 --> 00:17:06,920 He continued to follow them in his marked car. 137 00:17:06,258 --> 00:17:10,129 They started to conceal themselves blind a tree. 138 00:17:10,129 --> 00:17:12,965 He investigated a little bit further. 139 00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:17,803 Eventually stopped the two individuals, they were two juveniles. 140 00:17:17,803 --> 00:17:25,770 Turned out, they were from a previous case that we had in the city where they were involved in a stolen car with two other people. 141 00:17:25,770 --> 00:17:33,953 In fact, the one kid was on probation for two other auto theft cases that he had, so what this show assist an example. 142 00:17:33,953 --> 00:17:49,435 It's not only we go out there and handle calls that we're dispatched to, it's the proactive work which is phenomenal and I think officer gonzalez showed his great work that day, and it help is the residents of coral gables that he was officers 143 00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:51,837 that are so dedicated to what they do. 144 00:17:51,837 --> 00:18:12,910 A little side note, not that I remind everybody about the dangers of police work, officer gonzalez a week ago when we had the fatality accident involving a homeless person on the highway was working a traffic post and as he got out of the car, 145 00:18:12,910 --> 00:18:15,194 somebody drove through the area and struck him with that car. 146 00:18:15,194 --> 00:18:19,532 Thank goodness he was not hurt. 147 00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:26,710 The minor things we do can be very dangerous for an officer out there, so thank you very much for your work. 148 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:27,573 Congratulations for being officer of the month. 149 00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:30,274 >> thank you. 150 00:18:35,714 --> 00:18:43,880 [applause] >> mayor: fi >> first off, thank you for the commission for having me here, thank you for everything you do. 151 00:18:43,422 --> 00:18:47,920 Thank you for the commander for hiring me and giving me an opportunity to be here. 152 00:18:47,259 --> 00:18:51,463 This is the first department that I've been here and I love being here. 153 00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:54,533 I appreciate everything that you guys do and always looking out for me. 154 00:18:54,533 --> 00:19:05,177 I appreciate all of my sergeants, all of my lieutenants, that day in and day out, they check in on me and give me the confidence to dot work thai do now. 155 00:19:05,177 --> 00:19:11,150 My peers, it's not just me, it's my peers that were working with me, they all helped me out on that call. 156 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,184 They were always there. 157 00:19:12,184 --> 00:19:16,222 We do a great job of responding to calls and getting to each other very quick. 158 00:19:16,222 --> 00:19:29,268 Something with that call, irm when I was stepping out of the car and I called it out, I didn't know where my peers were out, but they were at me in seconds, so it's something that we take pride in responding to calls quick and helping each other 159 00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:29,702 out. 160 00:19:29,702 --> 00:19:32,972 It's not just me, but it's everybody else that I work with. 161 00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:42,848 My sergeant on midnight I was with, my ftos prior to that that give me the confidence and showed me the way. 162 00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:57,930 Officer danny smith that retired, he was a great officer, officer clue and officer becker, all three were my fto, and I appreciate everything and what they taught me. 163 00:19:57,930 --> 00:20:01,330 Me for who I'm being becoming now and into the future. 164 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:06,403 I thank you for all you've done. 165 00:20:10,309 --> 00:20:12,511 [applause] >> mayor: officer, thank you for everything you do. 166 00:20:12,511 --> 00:20:14,460 How long have you been with the force now? 167 00:20:14,413 --> 00:20:16,382 >> two and a half years. 168 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:16,949 >> mayor: well-deserved. 169 00:20:16,949 --> 00:20:24,230 You're setting the benchmark very high and setting an example for those stepping into your shoes as a police officer. 170 00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:25,900 Thank you for your work. 171 00:20:25,524 --> 00:20:32,798 It's a very difficult job, but you're doing an incredible job of following in the footsteps of all of these officers we have behind us. 172 00:20:32,798 --> 00:20:34,733 Thank you again for your hard work. 173 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:45,477 I want you to be aware, sometimes in those mem moments where you think people do not notice or are appreciative, this city and this commission is grateful for your hard work. 174 00:20:45,477 --> 00:20:50,479 >> thank you for those 175 00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:52,805 >> mayor: moving on to the approval of minutes for the regular commission meeting schedule may 7, 2024. 176 00:22:52,805 --> 00:22:53,605 >> move it. 177 00:22:53,605 --> 00:22:55,274 >> I'll second. 178 00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:57,750 >> all in favor? 179 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:59,545 [chorus of ayes] >> thank you. 180 00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,914 >> mayor: regular city commission meeting may 21, 2024. 181 00:23:01,914 --> 00:23:03,810 >> I'll move it. 182 00:23:03,482 --> 00:23:03,782 >> second. 183 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:05,584 >> all in favor? 184 00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:07,850 [chorus of ayes] >> thank you. 185 00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:08,387 >> mayor: moving on to public comment. 186 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:12,391 >> first speaker today, mr. 187 00:23:12,391 --> 00:23:12,724 Mayor, mrs. 188 00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:18,363 Mary cruz. 189 00:23:18,363 --> 00:23:24,536 >> mayor: really quickly, I want to take care of one issue. 190 00:23:24,536 --> 00:23:27,390 Item h4 is being deferred at the request of staff. 191 00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:29,408 >> thank you, sir. 192 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,878 >> mayor: good morning. 193 00:23:32,878 --> 00:23:37,449 >> gogood morning, mrs. 194 00:23:37,449 --> 00:23:42,588 Maria cruz, 1447 miller road since 1976. 195 00:23:42,588 --> 00:23:56,869 It's a beautiful day in the city of coral gables and let me remind you that this is the day the lord has made, let us rejoice and be glad in it. 196 00:23:56,869 --> 00:24:01,206 Have a wonderful day. 197 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:01,507 >> mayor: mr. 198 00:24:01,507 --> 00:24:01,673 Clerk? 199 00:24:01,673 --> 00:24:10,682 >> roberta newway. 200 00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:16,889 >> I'm roberta, 1236 south alhambra circle, 33416. 201 00:24:16,889 --> 00:24:25,230 I'm here to talk in support of resolution f4, which is bike lanes down alhambra and in support of complete streets in general. 202 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:36,800 I know all of you are committed to vision zero, public health, physical and emotional, lessening traffic whenever possible, and to quality. 203 00:24:36,408 --> 00:24:39,144 Complete streets addresses all of these goals. 204 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:47,686 I went door-to-door along several blocks of alhambra last sunday and the support for bike lanes was overwhelming. 205 00:24:47,686 --> 00:24:57,950 It was really very, very positive, and one thing I noticed was the younger the person, the hire the enthusiasm. 206 00:24:57,596 --> 00:25:16,248 I thought that that's great because young people are the future, and that got me to thinking, I would like to close with a quote from enrique key, the ex-mayor of bow ga ta. 207 00:25:16,248 --> 00:25:18,784 Children are kind indicator species. 208 00:25:18,784 --> 00:25:25,857 If we can build a successful city for children, we will have a successful city for everyone. 209 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:29,795 Complete streets can do this. 210 00:25:29,795 --> 00:25:33,599 Thank you for your time and have a great day, and stay dry. 211 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:34,990 >> mayor: thank you very much. 212 00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:38,360 >> thank you for doing that. 213 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:39,972 >> jack con holmes. 214 00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:50,549 >> mayor: good morning, sir. 215 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:51,216 >> depletings. 216 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:54,820 Let me see if I can give you something to ponder as a solution. 217 00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:59,910 We have a police and union agreement today. 218 00:25:59,358 --> 00:26:20,712 I'm going to let it speak for itself, but I'm sure that all of you are aware and even the people at home, that the underlying problem is lack of police applicants, that is young people maybe don't want to be police or something. 219 00:26:20,712 --> 00:26:26,451 We're not getting enough applicants and it turns out that this is a nationwide problem. 220 00:26:26,451 --> 00:26:34,860 I googled it, be nbc has reported on it, a number of quasi police agencies have reported on it. 221 00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:35,961 It's a national problem. 222 00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:37,663 I started thinking, why are. 223 00:26:37,663 --> 00:26:45,871 What happened nationally that discouraged people wanting from being police officers, and you think of george floyd. 224 00:26:45,871 --> 00:26:58,684 So when you look at that incident four years ago where you had the police officer choking out an innocent man -- can we get the slide up? 225 00:26:58,684 --> 00:27:03,588 >> cable tv will put up the video for you, sir. 226 00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:04,990 >> can you believe this? 227 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:12,297 I think I can convince you right now and the people watching on tv, we may come up with an answer for this nationwide problem. 228 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:27,145 They arrested the wrong police officer and the wrong police officer as to who choked out george floyd is in prison. 229 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:33,785 So if you look at this slide, you see the guy we saw in the video, he has an elongated face. 230 00:27:33,785 --> 00:27:43,395 Then, if you look at the one on the right of that slide, that's the guy who was arrested and who is in prison. 231 00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:44,663 These are not the same people. 232 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:49,134 If you remember in that video, it's the guy on the left so why isn't he under arrest? 233 00:27:49,134 --> 00:27:51,803 He's the one who choked out george floyd. 234 00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:59,778 Why is the guy on the right, supposedly of the same name, the one who got arrested and is in prison? 235 00:27:59,778 --> 00:28:00,612 Something strange here. 236 00:28:00,612 --> 00:28:12,257 Can we go to the video? 237 00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:13,525 It doesn't add up. 238 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:16,328 Maybe we'll get more police and applicants. 239 00:28:16,328 --> 00:28:18,630 Trying to get the video going. 240 00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:51,960 >> okay, we're all familiar with the george floyd -- [audio difficulties] >> okay, we're all familiar with the george floyd -- [audio difficulties] >> okay, we're all familiar with the george -- [audio difficulties] okay, we're all familiar 241 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,767 with the -- >> stop playing it, sir. 242 00:28:55,767 --> 00:28:59,504 >> mayor: I think we're having a issue with the video, is mr. 243 00:28:59,504 --> 00:28:59,671 Clerk. 244 00:28:59,671 --> 00:29:00,572 >> it's not playing. 245 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:04,900 Seems to be an issue with the video. 246 00:29:04,176 --> 00:29:06,440 >> should I come back and finish up? 247 00:29:06,344 --> 00:29:12,851 The video is important. 248 00:29:12,851 --> 00:29:14,452 >> mayor: perfect. 249 00:29:14,452 --> 00:29:14,653 Mr. 250 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:14,820 Clerk? 251 00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:15,860 >> jessica keller. 252 00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:16,321 >> good morning. 253 00:29:16,321 --> 00:29:19,900 I'm out of breath. 254 00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:24,963 My name is jessica keller, I've been a member of this community for more than 12 years now. 255 00:29:24,963 --> 00:29:39,945 I came to speak today regarding the legislation sponsored by kirk menendez, rhonda anderson and ariel fernandez. 256 00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:41,790 I ran up the steps. 257 00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:44,950 I was happy to see this legislation for city staff. 258 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:48,530 Four items I think needs to be addressed. 259 00:29:48,530 --> 00:29:52,958 The trial board needs to be addressed in order for this legislation to have any teeth. 260 00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:59,431 Number one, specific procedures need to be outlined in the charter for the trial board. 261 00:29:59,431 --> 00:30:04,102 No one knew what to do when I personally participated. 262 00:30:04,102 --> 00:30:10,800 The trial board members were not aware of the limits, if any, of their four. 263 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,746 Two, appoint trial board members like any other board, not when needed. 264 00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:18,149 This eliminates stacking the board against employees. 265 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:28,526 Three, develop and administer training for employees so that know what to do if they find themselves in a position and need protection. 266 00:30:28,526 --> 00:30:32,163 Four, elected officials -- >> mayor: sorry to interrupt you. 267 00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:33,999 Can you repeat number three? 268 00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:35,600 I didn't catch it. 269 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,167 Take your time. 270 00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:37,535 I don't want to rush you. 271 00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:38,270 . 272 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:40,380 I let people speak as long as they want to. 273 00:30:40,272 --> 00:30:44,750 >> I have to run out of here gone to my job. 274 00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:53,118 Number three, develop and administer training for employees so they know what to do if they find themselves in a position and need protection. 275 00:30:53,118 --> 00:31:00,825 Four, elected officials should not be permitted to communicate with the trial court members to avoid tampering. 276 00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:01,426 Thank you. 277 00:31:01,426 --> 00:31:01,726 >> mayor: mr. 278 00:31:01,726 --> 00:31:03,795 Clerk, will you do me a favor, please? 279 00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:11,970 Will you take those minutes and hopefully when this item comes up, we can include those minutes in the item? 280 00:31:11,970 --> 00:31:12,971 >> yes. 281 00:31:12,971 --> 00:31:19,277 We'll go to zoom next, the first speaker is mark troabridge. 282 00:31:19,277 --> 00:31:22,130 >> mayor: mr. 283 00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:29,854 Troabridge, good morning. 284 00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:30,880 Mr. 285 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Trowbridge? 286 00:31:30,255 --> 00:31:30,922 >> he's on. 287 00:31:30,922 --> 00:31:32,590 >> good morning, everybody. 288 00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:43,680 Thank you fots opportunity to be with you today and to share with you a little bit about potential opportunity for the city of coral gables. 289 00:31:43,301 --> 00:31:49,740 I'm mark troa goods bridge with thed coral gables chamber of commerce. 290 00:31:49,341 --> 00:32:00,118 The company I want to talk about is jolt, some of you may have heard of them before. 291 00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:05,900 Thety has been looking at this opportunity but they've become active with our chamber. 292 00:32:05,657 --> 00:32:11,997 With opportunities like this, we like to promote. 293 00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:18,770 They are operated and maintained at I highest level with no cost to the city. 294 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:24,676 As a matter of fact, they can be additional resource to the city with support. 295 00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:32,150 Each day, they give seven kilowatt charging of every user who will utilize their services. 296 00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:51,267 The free energy encourages ev owners to visit coral gables, which is good for our restaurant and retail businesses, especially during that time of charging when they may want to run an errand and get a coffee, et cetera. 297 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:55,730 Jolt establishes and exclusively installs these fast chargers. 298 00:32:55,340 --> 00:33:03,148 They take about 31 minutes, which aligns with the retail opportunities in getting that great cup of joe. 299 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:11,322 About 73% of their users responded that they will run an errand during that time frame, supports all of our local businesses downtown. 300 00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:31,760 We have also found, they have found that a single charger can generate up to almost $90,000 in incremental local business revenue over the course of a year, and they do partner with local businesses to advertise on the chargers themselves, via 301 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,712 their ios or android app. 302 00:33:34,712 --> 00:33:44,923 They'll be offering interactive wayfinding, allowing users and pedestrians to locate and visit those local businesses. 303 00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:53,980 The chamber operates the city's welcome center, so we see that as a great partnership with the work that jolt will be doing. 304 00:33:53,980 --> 00:34:11,483 They use a in-house mark marketing team to support local businesses and they give back about 5% of their screen time to the city to advertise community events, businesses or other city messaging that would be of importance and timeliness, including 305 00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:21,459 emergency issues, so with that, I just wanted to recommend that as you talk about that today, you understand the residual affects of having a company like jolt involved. 306 00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:23,595 We look forward to hearing your discussion on that. 307 00:34:23,595 --> 00:34:26,640 Thank you very much from our chamber. 308 00:34:26,431 --> 00:34:28,333 >> mayor: thank you very much. 309 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:28,466 Mr. 310 00:34:28,466 --> 00:34:28,633 Clerk? 311 00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:31,169 >> next feeker, mr. 312 00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:33,905 Mayor, is akey fernandez. 313 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:34,500 >> good morning. 314 00:34:34,472 --> 00:34:37,575 Can you hear me? 315 00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:39,310 >> yes. 316 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:39,577 >> okay. 317 00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:40,545 Good morning, commissioners. 318 00:34:40,545 --> 00:34:45,383 My name is akey fernandez, 1542 mendave avenue. 319 00:34:45,383 --> 00:34:54,359 I'm speaking because I wanted to request that item d3, the appointment to the historic preservation board be pulled from the consent agenda for discussion. 320 00:34:54,359 --> 00:35:06,700 The reason I'm doing so is because while I do not know him personally, I do know that this individual is editor-in-chief of the political activist insight. 321 00:35:06,304 --> 00:35:12,430 My fear assist that it will politicize the board that has the authority to infringe on people's property rights. 322 00:35:12,177 --> 00:35:16,915 This should be based on merits, not politics or personal relationships. 323 00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:24,880 I would ask commissioner fernandez to make his case to the voters and to the rest of the commission why in his view he's the best choice. 324 00:35:24,455 --> 00:35:28,493 I would welcome discussion from the rest of the commission on this matter. 325 00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:32,197 Also, I wanted to ek toe the sentiments of ms. 326 00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:40,738 Kneeway regarding f4 in anything that provides more transit options. 327 00:35:40,738 --> 00:35:44,275 I think it's a win for the city. 328 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:49,247 Thank you >> mayor: thank you. 329 00:35:49,247 --> 00:35:50,848 Mr. 330 00:35:50,848 --> 00:35:51,150 Clerk? 331 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:56,688 >> cable tv is ready for the video with mr. 332 00:35:56,688 --> 00:35:56,854 Holmes. 333 00:35:56,854 --> 00:35:58,220 >> mayor: mr. 334 00:35:58,220 --> 00:36:02,930 Holmes, welcome back. 335 00:36:02,930 --> 00:36:04,930 We're 336 00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:06,640 back. Wel. 337 00:36:06,197 --> 00:36:17,642 >> okay, we're all familiar with the george floyd video and murder case in the video, it shows him choking mr. 338 00:36:17,642 --> 00:36:24,480 Floyd to death and it's very shockining. 339 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:39,897 However, it turns out that there appear to be some very startling disprap pan sees in the case. 340 00:36:39,897 --> 00:36:48,206 First of all, we know that this is the officer we saw in in the video choking out mr. 341 00:36:48,206 --> 00:37:01,190 Floyd, derek chauvin of minneapolis. 342 00:37:01,190 --> 00:37:06,457 The smoking thing, the person under arrest appears to be this person. 343 00:37:06,457 --> 00:37:09,260 They show derek chauvin's first court appearance. 344 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:12,363 These two people don't lookalike, do they. 345 00:37:12,363 --> 00:37:15,500 This fellow has an elongated face. 346 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,402 Are, that's the one we saw in the video. 347 00:37:17,402 --> 00:37:19,103 His is more of a round face. 348 00:37:19,103 --> 00:37:31,115 These are not the same person. 349 00:37:31,115 --> 00:37:35,386 So this is a cnn video. 350 00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:41,726 You can see derek chauvin charged with third degree murd, the same as the guy below. 351 00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:49,901 This also, abc news, same as the second guy below. 352 00:37:49,901 --> 00:38:09,153 The person in custody, the police officer charges with george floyd murder, they're both derek chauvin, right, but the they're not the guy we saw in the video, so something is very strange. 353 00:38:09,153 --> 00:38:09,287 Strange. 354 00:38:09,287 --> 00:38:20,231 I would submit to you, presumably you saw the same video that I did, that this is the fellow who should be facing life in person. 355 00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:21,933 He's also called derek chauvin. 356 00:38:21,933 --> 00:38:25,236 We saw him choke him out and this is not. 357 00:38:25,236 --> 00:38:38,616 Why is this so called derek chauvin and not this one locked up and facing life in prison? 358 00:38:38,616 --> 00:38:48,760 Now, as you get further into it, it turns out that this fellow looks like -- do you remember the tv show cash cab? 359 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:48,926 ? 360 00:38:48,926 --> 00:38:51,329 What do you think, you're the judge here? 361 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:57,602 Do they lookalike? 362 00:38:57,602 --> 00:39:04,750 And that fellow's name is ben bailey and there's speculation that they might be the same person. 363 00:39:04,208 --> 00:39:26,597 You be the judge, in which case then, we have doubts thrown in about the authenticity of the video that presumably upset all of us where we're watching a police officer choke someone to death, no matter what his background. 364 00:39:26,597 --> 00:39:36,374 You know, justice does not involved being choked to death without a trial and all of that. 365 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:41,379 However, we have this terrible discrepancy now. 366 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:44,282 He's the one in jail now, not him. 367 00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:50,870 You be the judge and actor -- >> mayor: mr. 368 00:39:50,421 --> 00:39:51,389 Holmes, if I may. 369 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:53,357 >> the tv show cash cab. 370 00:39:53,357 --> 00:39:55,126 >> mayor: we keep going in circles. 371 00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:58,463 >> okay, yeah, so look. 372 00:39:58,463 --> 00:40:10,741 Unfortunately, the problem of the lack of police officer applicants cont continues. 373 00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:16,113 It's a national problem, maybe solve a national problem. 374 00:40:16,113 --> 00:40:19,817 If any city, it's us. 375 00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:28,826 What I'm hoping is with the various police officials and so on, we can push the media to raise these questions. 376 00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:32,964 I mean, what's the bottom line here ? 377 00:40:32,964 --> 00:40:33,331 ? 378 00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:38,703 The guy who presumably murdered george floyd got away with it and the wrong person is in prison. 379 00:40:38,703 --> 00:40:43,400 The whole case is suspect. 380 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,740 . 381 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:43,608 . 382 00:40:43,608 --> 00:40:52,149 Young people thinking about being police officers, say oh well, let's see, that george floyd thing maybe didn't happen the way it's supposed to. 383 00:40:52,149 --> 00:40:53,500 There's something wrong here. 384 00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:55,953 Maybe they say, maybe I will become a police officer. 385 00:40:55,953 --> 00:40:56,870 Thank you. 386 00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:57,880 >> mayor: thank you, sir. 387 00:40:57,488 --> 00:40:59,190 Just to put it on the record. 388 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:14,372 Last week, the commission had the pleasure of attending the inauguration of three new officers that are joining our ranks and hopefully today we'll be ratifying an agreement with the police department, which will provide additional benefits 389 00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:15,600 to our police officers. 390 00:41:15,540 --> 00:41:22,680 Much I know the po police department is moving in the right direction and we're doing everything in our power to make sure we bring in the best. 391 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:34,759 We have standards, we have the highest standards and we'll continue to find officers that, again, suit our needs, who want to work in the city of coral gables and who are excited to make this a career 20, 25, 30 years. 392 00:41:34,759 --> 00:41:36,861 Thank you for being here as always. 393 00:41:36,861 --> 00:41:36,994 Mr. 394 00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:37,280 Clerk? 395 00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:38,596 >> that's it, mr. 396 00:41:38,596 --> 00:41:38,763 Mayor. 397 00:41:38,763 --> 00:41:40,970 >> mayor: moving on to consent agenda. 398 00:41:40,464 --> 00:41:49,730 >> before the vote is taken; there anyone who wishes additional discussion or review of any item on the consent agenda? 399 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,144 >> we had a request for one item to be pulled. 400 00:41:53,144 --> 00:41:54,345 >> it was pulled. 401 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:55,460 >> was it pulled? 402 00:41:55,446 --> 00:41:59,617 >> if it's a resident request, normally it's pulled. 403 00:41:59,617 --> 00:42:01,686 >> I'm just clarifying. 404 00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:02,987 I'll move it. 405 00:42:02,987 --> 00:42:03,287 >> second. 406 00:42:03,287 --> 00:42:05,590 >> all in favor? 407 00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:07,580 [chorus of ayes]. 408 00:42:07,191 --> 00:42:13,631 >> agenda item d3. 409 00:42:13,631 --> 00:42:21,172 >> mayor: as a sponsor of the item, would you like to? 410 00:42:21,172 --> 00:42:21,405 >> sure. 411 00:42:21,405 --> 00:42:21,505 Mr. 412 00:42:21,505 --> 00:42:26,477 Banos is happy with serving in the board of adjustment where he's serving, where I had appointed him to. 413 00:42:26,477 --> 00:42:31,782 His name came up as a recommendation by my prior appointee to this ? 414 00:42:31,782 --> 00:42:32,350 recommendation by my prior appointee to this ?board, mr. 415 00:42:32,350 --> 00:42:42,293 Brett gillis, who has moved out of coral gables and could no longer serve because of the residency requirement and he recommended mr. 416 00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:43,394 Banos. 417 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:43,561 Additionally, ms. 418 00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:49,900 Carbon of the historic preservation association spoke very highly of mr. 419 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:51,680 Banos qualifications to sit on this board. 420 00:42:51,469 --> 00:42:56,874 As far as I know right now, the only vacant 421 00:42:56,874 --> 00:43:00,978 as far as I know right now, the only vaca vacancy can be served by any resident of the city of coral gables. 422 00:43:00,978 --> 00:43:02,546 There's no specific requirements. 423 00:43:02,546 --> 00:43:09,253 There's requirements that we have architects, attorneys and different requirements, all of those is satisfied at the moment. 424 00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:09,353 Mr. 425 00:43:09,353 --> 00:43:15,292 Banos is an attorney so he would qualify additionally under that category and for that reason, I'm bringing his name up. 426 00:43:15,292 --> 00:43:17,940 >> I do have a question for you. 427 00:43:17,294 --> 00:43:29,640 The other thing that mr., I think his last name was fernandez brought up, the fact that he's with the gable insider and political influence in that way. 428 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,575 Do you have any comments on that? 429 00:43:31,575 --> 00:43:36,130 >> I don't think there's any influence by any publication in the city. 430 00:43:36,130 --> 00:43:39,830 We have many coral gables insider, appointees. 431 00:43:39,183 --> 00:43:49,694 I was your appointee as editor and I served on the school relations committee and it never affected any of the writing I did on gables insider. 432 00:43:49,694 --> 00:43:51,280 I trust mr. 433 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,197 Banos judgment when it comes to this. 434 00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:59,537 He's never taken advantage of his position of the board adjustment, which is another quasi-judicial board in this city. 435 00:43:59,537 --> 00:44:01,720 I don't see this as an issue. 436 00:44:01,238 --> 00:44:05,209 >> no, I just felt we needed to respond to the resident. 437 00:44:05,209 --> 00:44:05,509 >> agreed. 438 00:44:05,509 --> 00:44:06,410 I appreciate mr. 439 00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:07,845 Fernandez bringing up the concerns. 440 00:44:07,845 --> 00:44:17,880 I know I've heard the rumblings in the community about this appointment, but I think he's a qualified individual who can serve this city in this capacity. 441 00:44:17,288 --> 00:44:31,936 It is an extremely important board in our city, as is thes planning and zoning board, as is all of the boards for this commission. 442 00:44:31,936 --> 00:44:34,438 He was happy serving with the board of adjustment. 443 00:44:34,438 --> 00:44:49,860 I asked him to move over because I thought if this is the recommendation from my current appointee and the folks in historic preservation believe he would be a fair judge on this board, have no problem moving him forward. 444 00:44:49,553 --> 00:45:00,262 >> I just wanted to make sure we get these issues of the residents, I should say the concerns. 445 00:45:00,464 --> 00:45:03,330 When I recommended ms. 446 00:45:03,330 --> 00:45:11,108 Anne alvarez, I also consulted with other individuals that had been serving on the boards because I'm not an architect. 447 00:45:11,108 --> 00:45:15,880 Although, I appreciate good architecture and it is a very powerful board. 448 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:32,496 In fact, it's probably more powerful than any other board in this city because they can do things with the zoning on properties that the planning and zoning board can't even do, as far as giving rights on zoning. 449 00:45:32,496 --> 00:45:34,732 >> I just have a question for the city attorney. 450 00:45:34,732 --> 00:45:44,740 I know when item from the historic preservation board comes to tsunami, usually on appeal, we sit as a quasi-judicial body, right? 451 00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:44,508 >> right. 452 00:45:44,508 --> 00:45:48,946 >> but the historic preservation board, do they sit also as quasi-judicial? 453 00:45:48,946 --> 00:45:50,147 >> that is correct. 454 00:45:50,147 --> 00:45:52,483 The hearings before them are quasi-judicial hearings. 455 00:45:52,483 --> 00:46:06,630 >> so I guess the same rule would comply, not to make comments publicly. 456 00:46:06,197 --> 00:46:15,472 >> they should remain unbiased and they have to make that discovery at every case and make any ex-parte communications. 457 00:46:15,472 --> 00:46:19,844 >> based on that, I'm confident that mr. 458 00:46:19,844 --> 00:46:23,581 Banos understands that the rules that applies to us applies to every board members. 459 00:46:23,581 --> 00:46:27,885 If we and the board members comply, I understand that he will, too. 460 00:46:27,885 --> 00:46:36,727 Since it's quasi-judicial, it would be easier to follow and monitor, so I'm comfortable with it. 461 00:46:36,727 --> 00:46:39,960 >> mayor: anything else? 462 00:46:39,196 --> 00:46:42,132 I would like to add my few comments to the issue. 463 00:46:42,132 --> 00:46:46,770 I want to address an important agenda item concerning the appointment of mr. 464 00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:48,706 Banos to my board in the city. 465 00:46:48,706 --> 00:46:53,878 I have significance concerns about this appointment and I believe it's crucial to discuss these openly. 466 00:46:53,878 --> 00:47:02,853 I've received two e-mails and multiple, mull phone calls from residents who were nervous about sending an e-mail, which would be a public record due to retaliation. 467 00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:19,370 I know that these residents who called me also made it very clear that they had spoken to some of the colleagues of ours on the commission in regards to the fact that they were veri nervous about retaliation on gables insider. 468 00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:23,974 While being an attorney does not express the relevant experience for this board's position. 469 00:47:23,974 --> 00:47:29,947 Of the gentleman you had before had extensive background in regards to historic preservation. 470 00:47:29,947 --> 00:47:35,520 Our boardses are more effective with the necessary backgrounds and expertise in this field. 471 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:35,520 Mr. 472 00:47:35,252 --> 00:47:40,900 Ban knows does not meet this. 473 00:47:40,424 --> 00:47:40,524 Mr. 474 00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:42,726 Banos has a clear political agenda. 475 00:47:42,726 --> 00:47:55,720 This raises serious concerns about his capacity to remain impartial during board discussions and decisions t is vital that our board member as proven their roles without political bias, ensuring fair and balance outcomes that serves the best 476 00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:56,600 interest of our community. 477 00:47:56,573 --> 00:48:04,982 Let me give you an example n an article I was reading yesterday about a supposed incident that occurred here in city hall, mr. 478 00:48:04,982 --> 00:48:17,940 Banos gaibilities insider fails to mention in his article and it's pointed out by multiple, multiple, multiple, multiple residents and individuals who made comments that he failed to mention that the assistant city manager was also in that meeting. 479 00:48:17,661 --> 00:48:28,706 It's the continued narrative and innuendo that is disturbing and leaching out pertinent information which can help make up people's minds. 480 00:48:28,706 --> 00:48:30,708 Very combative behavior. 481 00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:30,808 Mr. 482 00:48:30,808 --> 00:48:35,612 Banos previous tenure on the pension board was marked by behavior. 483 00:48:35,612 --> 00:48:40,317 His interactions were so contentious that his colleagues were willing to resign if it remained. 484 00:48:40,317 --> 00:48:46,724 This behavior is detrimental to the collaborative behavior we try to maintain on our boards. 485 00:48:46,724 --> 00:48:49,526 He has a conflict of interest in my opinion. 486 00:48:49,526 --> 00:49:02,673 A community blog that often publishes one-sided pieces fildz with unfounded pieces and misallegations, basically covering himself by saying this is a rumor, this is what I heard, but there's no facts. 487 00:49:02,673 --> 00:49:05,750 This role presents a significant conflict of interest. 488 00:49:05,542 --> 00:49:06,844 Can we trust mr. 489 00:49:06,844 --> 00:49:14,151 Banos to make impartial decisions on matters that could have a financial impact on a property owner's rights? 490 00:49:14,151 --> 00:49:20,900 His position with the gable insider cast doubts on his ability to be an unbiased board member. 491 00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:21,725 Censorship concerns. 492 00:49:21,725 --> 00:49:26,864 Lastly, there's concerns about censorship on the gables insider blog. 493 00:49:26,864 --> 00:49:34,171 Multiple residents have spoken that the comments that go not align with the agenda are often moderated or censored. 494 00:49:34,171 --> 00:49:39,900 Many individuals have told me that's their personal experience in ready rahs to the blog. 495 00:49:39,443 --> 00:49:45,382 This raises questions about his dialogue, which is essential for effective board functioning. 496 00:49:45,382 --> 00:49:47,170 In collective bargaining, by appointing mr. 497 00:49:47,151 --> 00:50:14,945 Banos to this board would be a mistake for the reasons out liefned, lack of experience, history of combative behavior, and conflict -- these points carefully before making a decision. 498 00:50:14,945 --> 00:50:23,420 I think brett did a good job because he had a skill set and knowledge of historic preservation and emersed in it for decades. 499 00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:27,257 I think we should be very thoughtful and very careful. 500 00:50:27,257 --> 00:50:34,765 The vice-mayor had an pop to the advisory board, who was not appointed, and was disabled. 501 00:50:34,765 --> 00:50:47,778 That person was denied entrance by fellow members of my colleagues open this commission and the individual was approved after she came here and had to walk up and speak and give her take in regards to her experience. 502 00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:56,587 So my only concern is at the end of the day, this is a very important board, and I think we need to be very thoughtful and careful in regards to the appointment. 503 00:50:56,587 --> 00:50:58,210 Thank you very much. 504 00:50:58,155 --> 00:51:09,660 >> I appreciate your comments smg I think the points you brought up could apply to other board members appointed to other boards by yourself, even legal issues. 505 00:51:09,533 --> 00:51:15,739 I stand by my appointment and I move to appointed javier banos to the historic preservation board. 506 00:51:15,739 --> 00:51:21,145 >> I'll second that. 507 00:51:21,145 --> 00:51:21,612 >> mr. 508 00:51:21,612 --> 00:51:28,385 Mayor, I have members of the public who has signed up to speak on the item. 509 00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:30,687 First speaker is mr. 510 00:51:30,687 --> 00:51:31,655 Jackson holmes. 511 00:51:31,655 --> 00:51:32,389 >> mayor: mr. 512 00:51:32,389 --> 00:51:32,723 Holmes, welcome. 513 00:51:32,723 --> 00:51:36,426 >> thank you for squeezing me in. 514 00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:40,964 I disagree with your take on the situation. 515 00:51:40,964 --> 00:51:48,500 We have a democracy problem in coral gables. 516 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:48,500 Mr. 517 00:51:48,138 --> 00:51:54,444 Banos, games insider, are trying to restore democracy and there's nothing improper about that. 518 00:51:54,444 --> 00:51:54,711 Thank you. 519 00:51:54,711 --> 00:51:59,917 >> mayor: thank you, sir. 520 00:51:59,917 --> 00:52:02,186 >> ms. 521 00:52:02,186 --> 00:52:08,292 Maria cruz. 522 00:52:08,292 --> 00:52:10,194 >> gogood morning again. 523 00:52:10,194 --> 00:52:10,928 Maria cruz. 524 00:52:10,928 --> 00:52:36,553 I thought today was going to be a wonderful day because the lord blessed us with rain this morning and I was very happy to watch the awards and the stuff that happened before now that was not politically inclined, but I have no choice but to 525 00:52:36,553 --> 00:53:03,397 stand up and question why we are allowing politics to interfere when we've had commissioners remove members of boards and bring other choices to the board, and this commission has been vehicle extraction agreeable to going alone of the pointer 526 00:53:03,397 --> 00:53:08,660 to the board, that's number one. 527 00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:29,389 Number two, number two, attacking a publication seems to be a little hypocritical because we send flyers, we attack people. 528 00:53:29,389 --> 00:53:37,464 We used to put ads in magazine to attack people and we didn't have any problems doing that. 529 00:53:37,464 --> 00:54:04,391 And the third one is, in case you all didn't remember, not everybody who sits or does anything for historic preservation has been so dedicated to the historic preservation. 530 00:54:04,391 --> 00:54:04,691 . 531 00:54:04,691 --> 00:54:28,348 He has gone through the city to make sure that everything that happens in that house is by historically approved procedures, and I think we have really gone down to the cesspool today by making this appointment a political appointment. 532 00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:31,518 Javier banos deserves to be on this board. 533 00:54:31,518 --> 00:54:49,469 Javier banos nows about historical preservation, and he puts his money where his mouth is because he does live in historic property and he does preserve that house as a jewel. 534 00:54:49,469 --> 00:54:51,304 Thank you. 535 00:54:51,304 --> 00:54:55,308 >> robert romano. 536 00:54:55,308 --> 00:54:55,642 >> mayor: mr. 537 00:54:55,642 --> 00:54:55,809 Romano. 538 00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:59,460 >> yes, you can hear me? 539 00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:00,113 >> yes, sir. 540 00:55:00,113 --> 00:55:00,714 >> hi, good morning. 541 00:55:00,714 --> 00:55:10,900 I wasn't going to speak on the subject and obviously I'm in my car, I haven't planning to be there, but I did just want to mention something that I heard. 542 00:55:10,157 --> 00:55:11,910 I don't know mr. 543 00:55:11,224 --> 00:55:13,960 Banos, I've never met him. 544 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,198 I read his publication from time to time, but let's be honest. 545 00:55:18,198 --> 00:55:19,399 It's a blog. 546 00:55:19,399 --> 00:55:21,100 It's not journalism. 547 00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:21,340 . 548 00:55:21,201 --> 00:55:24,471 With all due respect to mr. 549 00:55:24,471 --> 00:55:31,812 Fernandez, to ariel fernandez, really, it's been a blog. 550 00:55:31,812 --> 00:55:33,714 It isn't strict journalism. 551 00:55:33,714 --> 00:55:40,200 I'm upset that the mayor makes it about himself and about him being on there because when mr. 552 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:53,467 Fernandez, as he even said, when ariel fernandez was on other boards and very aligned with the mayor, even working on his campaigns, nobody had an issue with it and the mayor certainly didn't have an issue, the vice-mayor at the time. 553 00:55:53,467 --> 00:55:55,435 So just let it go. 554 00:55:55,435 --> 00:55:58,400 I mean, if brett gillis and ms. 555 00:55:58,138 --> 00:56:11,418 Carbon is saying this is a good choice and the gentleman lives in a historic home, I trust him, and so I would say support this and let's not make it about, you know, personal politics. 556 00:56:11,418 --> 00:56:12,119 Thank you. 557 00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:13,120 >> mayor: thank you. 558 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,859 >> next speak ser jer is jessica keller. 559 00:56:18,859 --> 00:56:19,826 >> good morning, again. 560 00:56:19,826 --> 00:56:20,861 This is very short. 561 00:56:20,861 --> 00:56:42,315 I agree with a lot of the things that the mayor said, and I would suggest that if we moved down a path of limiting the appointments to the boards, we should apply the same logic for all of the boards. 562 00:56:42,315 --> 00:56:46,860 We can make an argument about each board about the board appointments. 563 00:56:46,253 --> 00:56:46,520 Thank you. 564 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,755 >> that's it, mr. 565 00:56:48,755 --> 00:56:49,890 Banos. 566 00:56:49,890 --> 00:56:49,890 >> mr. 567 00:56:49,289 --> 00:56:56,997 Mayor, if I may real quick. 568 00:56:56,997 --> 00:57:10,777 As long as I've been a member of the city commission and I recall I recall before I was a member of the city commission, there's always been times when a member of the commission makes an appointment and sometimes it's just a mundane appointment 569 00:57:10,777 --> 00:57:14,514 and there's no discussions, there's no debates. 570 00:57:14,514 --> 00:57:27,494 There's orr times when we have a room full of people, divided room of residents, some for and some against, and those are always difficult decisions because you hear the voices of the residents, the concerns. 571 00:57:27,494 --> 00:57:41,506 At the same time, you balance what you're hearing, but this commission as far as I can recall and what I've always tried to do is defer to the member of the commission making the appointment. 572 00:57:41,541 --> 00:57:49,320 It's their appointment and I think we go down a slippery slope if we start challenging our colleagues on their personal appointments. 573 00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:54,237 So we had a mater, I 574 00:57:54,237 --> 00:58:06,583 appointments. So we had a mater, matter, I don't know, six months ago, seven months ago regarding the planning and zoning board, to the planning and zoning board and it was a divided room. 575 00:58:06,583 --> 00:58:15,559 I did so because I believe it's the proper policy to respect each others appointments. 576 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:34,477 We can debate, we can discuss and we can disagree, but at the end of the day, it's my appointment, the mere's pop, macer, appointment, my appointment, going down. 577 00:58:34,477 --> 00:58:35,278 That's it. 578 00:58:35,278 --> 00:58:35,478 And. 579 00:58:35,478 --> 00:58:53,630 [roll called] >> mayor: moving on, we have a time certain at 10:30, maybe we can get a few things done before then. 580 00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:56,499 Moving on to e 1. 581 00:58:56,499 --> 00:59:16,520 >> amending the code offed city coral gables, florida, chapter 6, entitled alcoholic beverages, 6-12, retail package store, retail beverage stores, retail liquor stores by changing the hours of operation on sundays provided for -- the deputy 582 00:59:16,286 --> 00:59:18,880 city attorney will provide an update. 583 00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:22,993 >> good morning, mayor, vice-mayor, commissioners, there's been no changing since the first reading. 584 00:59:22,993 --> 00:59:27,300 This just conforms sunday sales to the rest of the week. 585 00:59:27,163 --> 00:59:33,360 >> I wanted to thank you for your work on this. 586 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,105 Thank you for putting it forward. 587 00:59:35,105 --> 00:59:37,641 >> just modernizing times. 588 00:59:37,641 --> 00:59:39,509 I'll move it. 589 00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:39,809 >> second. 590 00:59:39,809 --> 00:59:48,318 [roll called] >> mr. 591 00:59:48,318 --> 00:59:51,870 Mayor, can we confirm there were no public speak seniors. 592 00:59:51,521 --> 00:59:53,490 >> no public speakers, ma'am. 593 00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:54,924 >> sorry, I rushed. 594 00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:56,920 >> mayor: moving on to item e 2. 595 00:59:56,860 --> 01:00:11,374 >> ordinance of the city commission approving the purchase and sale agreement between the city of coral gables, and 4241, a florida limited liability company for the transfer development rights as defined in it article 16 in sections -- of the 596 01:00:11,374 --> 01:00:19,150 zoning code from the coral gables museum property, located at 285. 597 01:00:19,150 --> 01:00:26,322 [unintelligible] be placed in the city's historic building fund and providing for a severabilities clause and effective date. 598 01:00:26,322 --> 01:00:30,727 This is a public hearing and ask the manager to provide an update. 599 01:00:30,727 --> 01:00:32,362 >> good morning, mayor and commissioners. 600 01:00:32,362 --> 01:00:33,463 >> mayor: good morning, how are you? 601 01:00:33,463 --> 01:00:37,500 >> there's been no changes since first and second reading, and if you have any questions. 602 01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:38,234 >> no questions. 603 01:00:38,234 --> 01:00:41,538 I'll move it. 604 01:00:41,538 --> 01:00:41,838 >> second. 605 01:00:41,838 --> 01:00:42,105 >> mr. 606 01:00:42,105 --> 01:00:47,143 Mayor, we have a member of the public requesting to speak on the item. 607 01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:48,545 >> mayor: okay. 608 01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:50,611 >> mrs. 609 01:00:51,347 --> 01:00:58,210 Maria cruz. 610 01:00:58,210 --> 01:00:58,722 >> mrs. 611 01:00:58,722 --> 01:01:00,230 Maria cruz, 1447 miller road. 612 01:01:00,230 --> 01:01:02,192 I told you today was a good day. 613 01:01:02,192 --> 01:01:05,493 I strongly support this. 614 01:01:05,829 --> 01:01:06,960 Thank you. 615 01:01:06,229 --> 01:01:13,336 >> mayor: by the way, put on the record, just want to give some context in regards to how we got here today. 616 01:01:13,336 --> 01:01:25,715 There's a resolution on this that comes back from 2022 where this was an item moved by commissioner menendez and second by anderson, which really set up the framework for us to be able to do this today. 617 01:01:25,715 --> 01:01:37,127 It's an important to recognize that because this is something that is outside of the box and it's something that has been worked on for years, and to me, I think it's important to give credit where credit is due. 618 01:01:37,127 --> 01:01:52,800 A few other previous commissioners that are not here with us as they've gone on to their own private lives played an integral part in making sure that this could be delivered from vice-mayor mena allowing commissioner george force, who also 619 01:01:52,375 --> 01:02:01,951 assisted in the efforts on items g3 and i5. 620 01:02:01,951 --> 01:02:18,968 It's come of a lot of work that was done in the forefront to be able to have this vehicle to be able to transfer these tdrs and be able to address historic preservation issues through the city, so this financial vehicle, through the previous 621 01:02:18,968 --> 01:02:22,972 commission, the manager, has done a good job to do this, so thank you. 622 01:02:22,972 --> 01:02:32,810 [roll called] >> mayor: moving on to item e 3. 623 01:02:32,448 --> 01:02:44,360 >> an ordinance of the cities amending the code of the city of coral gables, chapter 2, administration, article 3, boards, commissions and committees. 624 01:02:44,360 --> 01:03:04,130 Division three, trial board by creating section 2-124 procedures and amending chapter 2 entitled administration, article -- [indiscernible] the deputy city attorney can present the item. 625 01:03:04,130 --> 01:03:05,582 >> mayor: if I may one second. 626 01:03:05,582 --> 01:03:08,751 I see there's a bunch of people cosponsoring this. 627 01:03:08,751 --> 01:03:12,121 Commissioner menendez was the original sponsor of this item. 628 01:03:12,121 --> 01:03:26,690 What I would like to do if possible, through his acknowledgment, is take into consideration the points that are potentially missing from this legislation and amend the comments that were made from the previous speaker, who I asked to put on 629 01:03:26,569 --> 01:03:31,400 the record, and to see if the sponsor will allow that to be included. 630 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,510 >> I'm happy to address those points one by one. 631 01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:35,845 Let me grab my note. 632 01:03:35,845 --> 01:03:43,286 >> we received an e-mail with the details a moment ago, I believe, from -- >> mayor: I know that, but the issue included the legislation. 633 01:03:43,286 --> 01:03:57,834 >> a few of them will be addressed in an ordinance on first reading or may be addressed, but generally that the rules of procedure, just to be clear, the one change made from first reading provides that the rules of procedures shall include 634 01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:06,109 mediation or arbitration prior to a full hearing of the trial board with cost shared by all parties, that was added since first reading. 635 01:04:06,109 --> 01:04:20,256 This addition to the code provides that the trial board shall have the power to adopt rules of procedure pertaining to matters brought before it as the trial board and as the employee protection act board or that version of the trial board. 636 01:04:20,256 --> 01:04:26,496 That is a new addition to the code so to the extent that it addresses ms. 637 01:04:26,496 --> 01:04:32,952 Keller's concern about the aibt of the board and the requirement of the board to adopt rules of procedures, I believe that's addressed here. 638 01:04:32,952 --> 01:04:43,162 The board has previously adopted rules of procedures, it was apart of the getting going of the board, which is not generally convened at the time. 639 01:04:43,162 --> 01:04:52,205 The ordinance we have coming on first reading I think will help address that issue by setting term dates, and we can talk about it then or now, but there's that item. 640 01:04:52,205 --> 01:05:07,120 The other thing about training of employees, we discussed with the manager's office and hr, the ability to train not only on the employee protection actions, but the trial board generally and with he can work with the manager's office and hr 641 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,257 staff to make sure that employees on up-to-date open rights and protections. 642 01:05:11,257 --> 01:05:19,832 We all ready have extensive training, but we want specific to the trial board, with he can work with that. 643 01:05:19,832 --> 01:05:33,513 Then as far as the communication with the board and elected officials, as mentioned previously, the trial board is a quasi-judicial board so to the extent that there's ex-parte communication cost be avoided, decisions should only be made on 644 01:05:33,513 --> 01:05:38,184 the record presented before them that would apply to the trial board just the same. 645 01:05:38,184 --> 01:05:41,354 There's not a sunshine violation law issue there. 646 01:05:41,354 --> 01:05:56,690 There's different boards between elected officials and the trial board, but like all of our quasi-judicial boards, we expect them to avoid eng ex-parte communications and make share decisions based solely on the record. 647 01:05:56,690 --> 01:06:09,782 Whenever we get to the ordinance will address the terms and I think making sure the board is always in place, but the rules of procedure and those other issues to the extent that you feel they're addressed, commissioner menendez, I think they're 648 01:06:09,782 --> 01:06:11,818 touched upon this ordinance and the other. 649 01:06:11,818 --> 01:06:32,400 >> in my discussions with the city attorney and obviously the deputy city attorney and staff, and I actually had the opportunity to speak with jessica keller prior a couple of weeks ago in this matter and listening to her concerns. 650 01:06:32,138 --> 01:06:45,852 I'm of the opinion the sooner we can assemble a trial board so that they can meet and focus on what the rules of procedure are or should be, I think that's helpful instead of everything happening all at once. 651 01:06:45,852 --> 01:07:04,537 As we have all experienced, there's so many rules and procedures and guidelines that we're used to hearing about what quasi-judicial means, we're used to it, but 90% of everyone else is going about their daily routine. 652 01:07:04,537 --> 01:07:23,189 I think we have to go above and beyond to make them aware of what they can or can't do, so I think things in writing, presentations, workshops because there's just so much to handle, that I think it's the responsibility of the of the commission, 653 01:07:23,189 --> 01:07:28,761 the administration to make sure that our employees truly know what they can and can't do and what's available. 654 01:07:28,761 --> 01:07:41,730 >> to the extent that our board and committee members attend our biannual training, we have a section on quasi-judicial matters and so all of our board members, including the trial board will be invited to our next training that we will do and 655 01:07:41,707 --> 01:07:52,180 make sure to the extent that there's any question bdz what that means and for which board it applies, we're happy to answer those questions. 656 01:07:52,151 --> 01:08:05,765 >> just add that for the employees, you know, we all get rusty on stuff and we have the training for the board members, but we don't have that, I don't believe we have that frequency of training for the employees to remind them of what their 657 01:08:05,765 --> 01:08:06,299 rights are. 658 01:08:06,299 --> 01:08:12,438 >> we're certainly happy to address that through the manager and the hr department. 659 01:08:12,438 --> 01:08:17,743 Those are trainings that hr does related to employment protections and we can work with them on that. 660 01:08:17,743 --> 01:08:26,886 If you're referring to quasi-judicial matters, the staff that, woulds closely with those boards works closely with our office and attends those trainings as well. 661 01:08:26,886 --> 01:08:37,330 >> the rights for whistleblower matters and the procedure, I would like this to continue on the agenda have a report back from the city manager on what the decision is. 662 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:42,735 I know you're going to confer, but the rest of us needs to know what's happening. 663 01:08:42,735 --> 01:08:47,390 >> >>: of course, we're happy to facilitate however we can and work with the manager's office. 664 01:08:47,390 --> 01:09:06,759 >> I just want to commend your office and staff and my coll colleagues because I think it started initially on whistleblower and trial board and how they work together, it started as a very simple place, but it's evolved based on feedback from 665 01:09:06,759 --> 01:09:15,668 residents, ideas that the commission has that we share with you, and I think it's really coming together in a wonderful way, that's good I think for our city at-large. 666 01:09:15,668 --> 01:09:21,700 I just want to commend everybody for working together on trying to make something really special come out of this. 667 01:09:21,307 --> 01:09:24,710 >> thank you. 668 01:09:24,710 --> 01:09:26,780 >> mayor: do we have a motion, mr. 669 01:09:26,345 --> 01:09:26,479 Clerk? 670 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,247 Do we have any public comment? 671 01:09:28,247 --> 01:09:28,581 >> no, sir. 672 01:09:28,581 --> 01:09:30,516 >> I'll move it. 673 01:09:30,516 --> 01:09:30,816 >> second. 674 01:09:30,816 --> 01:09:39,910 [roll called] >> mayor: thank you very much. 675 01:09:39,659 --> 01:09:41,127 Move og ton e 4. 676 01:09:41,127 --> 01:09:56,676 >> an ordinance of the city commission providing for tempt amendments for the city of coral gables zoning code, notices, section 15-102, ntsz to require door hangers as an additional notification for required public information meetings for 677 01:09:56,676 --> 01:10:03,382 multifamily and mixed use projects, providing for an effective date, planning official can present any update. 678 01:10:03,382 --> 01:10:05,950 >> jessica gasser 679 01:10:07,987 --> 01:10:09,550 update. >> jessica gass garcia, planner. 680 01:10:09,550 --> 01:10:26,172 We have been able to organize with police and we have comment from drc, we'll let them know how to contact the city, contacting police, communications, code enforcement and myself to know when there's going to be door hangers in a certain area 681 01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,205 are. 682 01:10:28,341 --> 01:10:28,641 That's it. 683 01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:30,900 >> mayor: any public comment? 684 01:10:30,843 --> 01:10:33,790 >> yes, mr. 685 01:10:33,790 --> 01:10:34,113 Mayor. 686 01:10:34,113 --> 01:10:36,513 Ms. 687 01:10:38,317 --> 01:10:46,580 Maria cruz. 688 01:10:46,580 --> 01:10:46,580 >> mrs. 689 01:10:46,559 --> 01:11:02,541 Maria cruz, 14 1447 miller road. 690 01:11:02,541 --> 01:11:04,430 >> mayor: I'm listening. 691 01:11:04,176 --> 01:11:07,790 >> would you listen, please. 692 01:11:07,246 --> 01:11:07,647 >> mayor: sorry. 693 01:11:07,647 --> 01:11:10,820 >> like I said at the beginning, it's a wonderful day. 694 01:11:10,449 --> 01:11:16,220 It's a beautiful day in the city of coral gables and I'm very happy to say this is a great idea. 695 01:11:16,220 --> 01:11:16,288 Thank you. 696 01:11:16,288 --> 01:11:16,889 >> thank you. 697 01:11:16,889 --> 01:11:21,861 >> I just wanted to add a comment. 698 01:11:21,861 --> 01:11:35,274 One of the concerns that was brought up by former mayor dorothy thompson, she asked to make sure that her concern was made to the commission was about putting out the notices and having them out. 699 01:11:35,274 --> 01:11:45,851 I explained to her that we had a 48-hour requirement for them to be taken down, but she just wanted to make sure that everyone was aware about the concern that she had. 700 01:11:45,851 --> 01:11:46,180 >> mayor: mr. 701 01:11:46,152 --> 01:11:52,580 Clerk, do you have any public comment? 702 01:11:52,191 --> 01:12:02,435 >> possibly the near future, doing the same thing for parks and recreation door hangers, taking them off after a certain period of time with the notification, that was one of her concerns as well. 703 01:12:02,435 --> 01:12:04,700 I'll move it. 704 01:12:04,236 --> 01:12:09,506 >> I'll second. 705 01:12:09,542 --> 01:12:15,715 [roll called] >> mayor: moving on to item e5. 706 01:12:15,715 --> 01:12:31,163 >> an ordinance of the city commission approving the vacation of a public right-of-way pursuant to zoning code, process section 14-211, and city code chapter 62, article 8, is vacation abandonment and closure by private owners and the city, 707 01:12:31,163 --> 01:12:32,131 application process. 708 01:12:32,131 --> 01:12:43,476 Providing vacation of the built more drive between lots -- [indiscernible] coral gables, florida, providing for seven raibilityd clause and providing an effective date. 709 01:12:43,476 --> 01:12:45,745 The public works director can present. 710 01:12:45,745 --> 01:12:46,979 >> good morning. 711 01:12:46,979 --> 01:12:47,790 >> mayor: good morning. 712 01:12:47,513 --> 01:12:49,682 >> may I have the presentation, please? 713 01:12:49,682 --> 01:12:52,510 >> mayor: are there any changes? 714 01:12:52,184 --> 01:12:53,520 >> no. 715 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:53,819 >> mayor: same? 716 01:12:53,819 --> 01:12:54,860 >> yep. 717 01:12:54,860 --> 01:12:55,888 >> mayor: do we have any public comment? 718 01:12:55,888 --> 01:12:56,489 >> no, mr. 719 01:12:56,489 --> 01:12:56,655 Mayor. 720 01:12:56,655 --> 01:13:00,920 >> mayor: would you like to move forward or see the presentation again? 721 01:13:00,259 --> 01:13:00,926 >> no, we're good. 722 01:13:00,926 --> 01:13:02,270 >> I'll move it. 723 01:13:02,270 --> 01:13:08,400 >> second. 724 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:17,760 [roll called] >> mayor: moving on to e6. 725 01:13:17,676 --> 01:13:31,724 >> ordinance of the city commission amending the city of coral gables code, chapter 2, administration, south waterways home owners associations advisory board to rename to the coral gables waterfront communities home owners association board, 726 01:13:31,724 --> 01:13:38,630 providing for repealer provision, severability clause, codification and proifdzing an effective date. 727 01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:41,400 We have a legal intern who will present this item. 728 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,204 >> good morning, mayor, commissioners. 729 01:13:45,204 --> 01:13:50,420 I'm pleased to present elizabeth duran, who is rising at st. 730 01:13:50,176 --> 01:13:56,115 Thomas law school, she worked hard on this ordinance and I would like for her to introduce the item to you. 731 01:13:56,115 --> 01:13:57,883 >> mayor: thank you for being with us. 732 01:13:57,883 --> 01:13:59,285 We're happy to have you. 733 01:13:59,285 --> 01:14:01,554 >> good morning, mayor, vice-mayor and commissioners. 734 01:14:01,554 --> 01:14:09,829 This is a ordinance on first reading sponsored by vice-mayor and commissioner lago. 735 01:14:09,829 --> 01:14:20,506 They established the advisory board in 2023 to facilitate communication between the board members and city staff and commission regarding common concerns, including security, waterway use, traffic and roadway use. 736 01:14:20,506 --> 01:14:33,185 The city code refers to the board as south waterways home owners association board and the boards requested it be changed to coral gables waterfront community home owners association board to distinguish itself from the water waist airchedz 737 01:14:33,185 --> 01:14:33,519 boards. 738 01:14:33,519 --> 01:14:36,689 It amends the code to reflect the name change. 739 01:14:36,689 --> 01:14:36,956 Thank you. 740 01:14:36,956 --> 01:14:38,657 >> thank you very much for the presentation. 741 01:14:38,657 --> 01:14:40,893 You did an excellent job. 742 01:14:40,893 --> 01:14:41,794 >> thank you. 743 01:14:41,794 --> 01:14:45,431 >> mayor: madam vice-mayor, quick two points. 744 01:14:45,431 --> 01:14:46,866 Number one, great job. 745 01:14:46,866 --> 01:14:47,990 Thank you for being here. 746 01:14:47,967 --> 01:14:51,300 We look forward to your great work on the summer. 747 01:14:51,300 --> 01:15:08,654 The purpose of this association, this new advisory board is to be a vehicle, a conduit in between areas of our city sometimes feels they don't have a voice with city hall, and I also want be to thank for bringing this idea a few years ago to 748 01:15:08,654 --> 01:15:11,924 myself and to the commission, and getting it implemented last year. 749 01:15:11,924 --> 01:15:14,593 Thank you very much. 750 01:15:14,593 --> 01:15:14,927 >> excellent. 751 01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,950 Any other comments? 752 01:15:16,228 --> 01:15:18,697 I'll move it. 753 01:15:18,697 --> 01:15:18,998 >> second. 754 01:15:18,998 --> 01:15:27,439 [roll called] >> mayor: moving on to e 7. 755 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:42,540 >> ordinance of the city commission amending the city of coral gables code, administration, boards and committees, trial board to amends the terms of trial bloard members to align with general city policy, providing for repealer provision, severability 756 01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:44,490 clause, cod fashion and providing an effective date. 757 01:15:44,490 --> 01:15:58,137 >> as I mentioned earlier, this is a change -- there were most other boards and committees within the city, which is that june 1st to may 31st 2-year term. 758 01:15:58,137 --> 01:16:06,795 As it currently stands, some of the trial board members are appointed for a 2-year term, some for a 1-year term. 759 01:16:06,795 --> 01:16:13,350 The mechanisms two selected by the commission, two selected by the employees, and one bip the whole four. 760 01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:14,136 That is not changing. 761 01:16:14,136 --> 01:16:29,351 What is changing is aligning their terms to all be two years, aligning them with the june 1st date, which would hopefully allow us to get the trial board convened just like all of our other boards and committees around that june 1st deadline. 762 01:16:29,351 --> 01:16:30,853 We would set that. 763 01:16:30,853 --> 01:16:44,600 Trial board member dozen not have term limit so to the extent that we want to renew who we have picked from term to term, that might make things smoochter and easier, but generally this will assist the clerk's office in making sure we get those 764 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,869 positions filled as smoothly as possible. 765 01:16:46,869 --> 01:16:51,940 The only change is some terms extended from one to two and adding in the dates of the terms. 766 01:16:51,940 --> 01:16:53,800 >> I have a quick question. 767 01:16:53,108 --> 01:17:01,830 We got an e-mail and probably -- maybe not related to this item specifically but the trial board in general. 768 01:17:01,283 --> 01:17:09,491 Those mention of employees would have to pay, make a payment to, I'm not quite sure the details, to be protected. 769 01:17:09,491 --> 01:17:12,127 Is there any payment required of employees? 770 01:17:12,127 --> 01:17:19,334 >> I'm not aware offhand if there's a fee for invoking the trial board, but I'm not aware that there's there is one. 771 01:17:19,334 --> 01:17:26,800 The only mention of a fee is if there's arbitration prior to a full herring of the board, those costs would be shared. 772 01:17:26,575 --> 01:17:39,621 As you well know, there are costs associated with mediation or arbitration and just nt manner of fairness, the rules can be amended by a board to address that if needed. 773 01:17:39,621 --> 01:17:43,225 >> and it would be optional in any event. 774 01:17:43,225 --> 01:17:45,127 Mediation or arbitration would be optional. 775 01:17:45,127 --> 01:18:02,311 >> because anything that we can do to remove any deterrent, financial or otherwise, I think is something we should block at look at and if there's an opportunity to perhaps come up with a better option I think for the employees, not now. 776 01:18:02,311 --> 01:18:05,414 >> there's no fee for invoking the trial board. 777 01:18:05,414 --> 01:18:06,482 >> all right. 778 01:18:06,482 --> 01:18:09,510 >> commissioner, there is no fee. 779 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:11,954 However, could you hire your own personal attorney. 780 01:18:11,954 --> 01:18:12,488 >> yeah. 781 01:18:12,488 --> 01:18:15,724 >> there's no fee to invoke the trial boards. 782 01:18:15,724 --> 01:18:20,129 It's not like an appellate procedure where you might appeal with a fee. 783 01:18:20,129 --> 01:18:20,796 >> thank you. 784 01:18:20,796 --> 01:18:21,964 >> mayor: any public comment? 785 01:18:21,964 --> 01:18:22,798 >> no, sir. 786 01:18:22,798 --> 01:18:24,633 >> mayor: any further comments or a motion? 787 01:18:24,633 --> 01:18:30,639 >> move it. 788 01:18:30,639 --> 01:18:32,775 >> second. 789 01:18:32,775 --> 01:18:36,110 [roll called] >> thank you. 790 01:18:36,110 --> 01:18:42,117 >> mayor: let's do e 10, we'll skip e 8 and 9 to get one more item. 791 01:18:42,117 --> 01:18:59,701 >> a resolution of the city commission authorizing an amendment to the fiscal year 2023-2024 annual budget to recognize revenue 2,645,000 for the sale of historical facility, transfer of development rights and transfer 500 thousands to the coral 792 01:18:59,701 --> 01:19:11,346 gables museum, 75,000 for the merrick house -- towards the venetian pool, and toward the alhambra water tower. 793 01:19:11,346 --> 01:19:26,610 >> I just wanted to comment that I think it's -- we've had over the last couple of years, opportunities to say sell tdrs and move those funds to historic preservation and what is a fund. 794 01:19:26,128 --> 01:19:41,376 I think for the community to see actual dollars go to specific historic landmarks, I think it's a great part of the process in educating the community as to why this is a valuable and important. 795 01:19:41,376 --> 01:19:43,812 I think very happy to have this legislation. 796 01:19:43,812 --> 01:19:53,255 >> just a couple of comments. 797 01:19:53,255 --> 01:20:02,164 The money we get to utilize heir rights from development to now preserve the historic assets and very pleased to have been apart of this. 798 01:20:02,164 --> 01:20:07,269 I know there's a long history to when this started. 799 01:20:07,269 --> 01:20:19,882 Mayor and commissioners before us started this process and fortunately now we're going to be able to reap its benefits for many many of our other buildings in our city. 800 01:20:19,882 --> 01:20:22,840 Glad to move it. 801 01:20:22,584 --> 01:20:22,985 >> I'll second. 802 01:20:22,985 --> 01:20:25,854 >> mayor: before we take a roll call; there any comments? 803 01:20:25,854 --> 01:20:27,122 >> yes, mr. 804 01:20:27,122 --> 01:20:27,289 Mayor. 805 01:20:27,289 --> 01:20:31,260 >> mayor: okay. 806 01:20:31,260 --> 01:20:33,930 >> ms. 807 01:20:33,562 --> 01:20:38,834 Maria cruz. 808 01:20:38,834 --> 01:20:40,135 >> mrs. 809 01:20:40,135 --> 01:20:41,370 Maria cruz, 1447 miller road. 810 01:20:41,370 --> 01:20:44,973 I told you, it's a good day in the city of coral gables. 811 01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:51,580 Strongly support this one. 812 01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:53,615 >> one. 813 01:20:53,615 --> 01:21:01,757 [roll called] >> I had a few comments I wasn't able to make. 814 01:21:01,757 --> 01:21:04,326 >> mayor: very quickly. 815 01:21:04,326 --> 01:21:07,329 Is this coming back for a second? 816 01:21:07,329 --> 01:21:09,531 >> no, this is a resolution, this is it. 817 01:21:09,531 --> 01:21:15,837 >> mayor: so number one, like I mentioned, I wanted to repeat again, so that the history is very clear. 818 01:21:15,837 --> 01:21:18,907 This was achieved in 2022 with a prior commission. 819 01:21:18,907 --> 01:21:34,756 I think it's important to give vice-mayor mena and vice-mayor force along with my colleagues the credit for finding a very creative way in addressing historic preservation that does not affect the budget in any form or anyway. 820 01:21:34,756 --> 01:21:45,670 This had not been done in the city before that I'm aware of, and we were able to craft legislation that addresses these concerns so I think it's very important to put that on the record. 821 01:21:45,267 --> 01:21:51,173 Number 23, this is the fruit, what you're seeing here is the fruit of legislation that was written in 2022. 822 01:21:51,173 --> 01:21:56,111 My second point that I have a concern on is the issue of the merrick house. 823 01:21:56,111 --> 01:22:02,217 I've been to the merrick house, I was there this past week, I know some of my colleagues were there also. 824 01:22:02,217 --> 01:22:06,955 There's several issues that I think need to be address there'd that falls short of the $75,000. 825 01:22:06,955 --> 01:22:16,832 Since this is not coming out of the general fund, I think we need to take that as a budgetary item potentially add it to $150,000. 826 01:22:16,832 --> 01:22:24,773 I think there's issues of interior drywall, issues of paint, issues where the exterior needs to be cleaned. 827 01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:40,880 Probably bring in a professional cleaning company with the fragile exterior wood -- excuse me, exterior coquina stone and things that I think have to be done in a professional manner which obviously cost a lot more money when you talk about 828 01:22:40,322 --> 01:22:40,789 historic preservation. 829 01:22:40,789 --> 01:22:45,861 Bringing this up, while 75,000 was a great number, I was never consulted on that $75,000. 830 01:22:45,861 --> 01:22:51,833 I think that it falls short, especially when you see the amount of work that has to be done there. 831 01:22:51,833 --> 01:23:02,277 There are certain areas that have to be refinished, certain entrance features that the wood is exposed and need to be painted, certain window sills that need to be addressed because of water intrusion. 832 01:23:02,277 --> 01:23:04,646 I think that 75 is going to fall short. 833 01:23:04,646 --> 01:23:19,728 If we have the money in the tdrs, I would request that my colleagues consider moving that to having a line item for $150,000 at a minimum $125,000 to address this issue since it is coming from tdrs. 834 01:23:19,728 --> 01:23:22,631 >> I know, comforted has something to say. 835 01:23:22,631 --> 01:23:28,870 I have a question regarding the tdrs, whoever can answer. 836 01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:39,848 Can I amend the legislation to increase the dollars for the merrick house and bump it up to 150? 837 01:23:39,848 --> 01:23:41,783 Are those dollars available? 838 01:23:41,783 --> 01:23:43,850 >> you can certainly amend this item. 839 01:23:43,485 --> 01:23:50,492 There is some information you'll get tomorrow and we have discussed a little bit in our preparation up to tomorrow's capital budget discussion. 840 01:23:50,492 --> 01:23:59,901 So currently, the merrick house does have some funding for some repairs that they need interior. 841 01:23:59,901 --> 01:24:09,878 In our proposal tomorrow for the capital items we are proposing $30,000 tweer the merrick house to be used as assessment of the facility. 842 01:24:09,878 --> 01:24:17,886 So the 75,000 was discussed to put aside to address any damage and any needs that come out of that assessment. 843 01:24:17,886 --> 01:24:22,724 >> mayor: what I would recommend, if I may -- and I appreciate -- >> certainly. 844 01:24:22,724 --> 01:24:26,928 >> mayor: I think, first off, $30,000 for assessment is a pretty significant amount of money. 845 01:24:26,928 --> 01:24:30,599 I don't think we need to spend $30,000 on an assessment. 846 01:24:30,599 --> 01:24:32,818 >> we may not need all that. 847 01:24:32,818 --> 01:24:33,840 >> mayor: finish. 848 01:24:33,251 --> 01:24:34,850 >> we may not need it all. 849 01:24:34,219 --> 01:24:35,654 That was the number. 850 01:24:35,654 --> 01:24:39,240 >> mayor: I know it's a budget but I think you can do it a lot less. 851 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:49,670 You can bring in a certified -- you know, we have two incredible architects who are specialists when it comes to historic preservation that their offices are here in the city of coral gables. 852 01:24:49,670 --> 01:24:50,535 I have worked with them in the past. 853 01:24:50,535 --> 01:24:54,720 They are renowned architects in this community. 854 01:24:54,639 --> 01:25:00,545 I think they can probably come in and do it for a significantly less fee and simple report telling us these are the areas of concern. 855 01:25:00,545 --> 01:25:09,921 I know there's been a lot of renovations in the merrick house over the last few years that are long overdue. 856 01:25:09,921 --> 01:25:12,991 A lot of deferred maintenance done two years ago, three years ago. 857 01:25:12,991 --> 01:25:20,765 I think what we need to focus in on is, for example, when you walk in, there's glaring issues that are just right in front of your face. 858 01:25:20,765 --> 01:25:32,177 When you look at the chimney, the chimney has a hole that I have been mentioning to the previous city manager and the current city manager for probably a year now, eight months now. 859 01:25:32,177 --> 01:25:34,112 It has to be taken care of. 860 01:25:34,112 --> 01:25:36,781 You can't just go in there and repair that stucco. 861 01:25:36,781 --> 01:25:44,356 You have to bring in a person who is versed in that style of stucco repair, drywall repair. 862 01:25:44,356 --> 01:25:49,940 It's like a venetian plaster finish so it matches properly. 863 01:25:49,694 --> 01:25:52,597 You're not just going to do that little hole. 864 01:25:52,597 --> 01:25:55,734 You've probably got to repair pretty significant portions so it matches. 865 01:25:55,734 --> 01:25:59,170 You have issues with window sills that I have seen. 866 01:25:59,170 --> 01:26:03,742 You have wood framing around entrance features that have to be finished in a proper way. 867 01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:09,114 I think the exterior of the building needs to be cleaned, especially the overhangs when you're walking around the facility. 868 01:26:09,114 --> 01:26:12,517 You know, this can't be done just with a simple pressure washer. 869 01:26:12,517 --> 01:26:17,989 It has to be done in a way that is thoughtful in regards to not destroying the facilities. 870 01:26:17,989 --> 01:26:22,160 There are wood beams and things have to be done very, very carefully. 871 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:27,320 I'm not a historic preservation expert burr the cost is significant in regards to regular construction. 872 01:26:27,165 --> 01:26:38,610 For me I think $75,000 short and I would like to see a budget item of 150 try to reduce that 30 to 10,000 if we can if not less to swirk that money over. 873 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:50,622 If we are able to take away, you know -- even include that 10,000, for example, in the review and put it into this 150, to me, it would save money out of the budget and we could use the tdrs. 874 01:26:50,622 --> 01:26:53,858 Because I know we need every single dollar in the budget. 875 01:26:53,858 --> 01:26:57,829 That is my opinion and I hope the commission will consider that because I think it's much-needed. 876 01:26:57,829 --> 01:27:04,102 >> this is a resolution and you certainly can make an adjustment to the amounts that are proposed for the facilities. 877 01:27:04,102 --> 01:27:06,710 >> I am open to -- go ahead. 878 01:27:06,710 --> 01:27:13,780 >> I guess the question is, do we have the additional $75,000 in tdrs? 879 01:27:13,780 --> 01:27:26,240 >> so what would need to happen in this particular resolution is whatever we add to the merrick house, I would recommend either -- I would recommend reducing what we put toward the venetian pool. 880 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:39,771 So currently as it's written, the tdrs are going to the alhambra water tower, this 1,035,500 covers the new need request for fiscal year '25. 881 01:27:39,771 --> 01:27:44,900 This would allow us to provide that funding this year as opposed to next fiscal year. 882 01:27:44,175 --> 01:27:51,383 And it allows us not to use general funds to fund that project in what we'll review tomorrow. 883 01:27:51,383 --> 01:28:02,600 The same is true for venetian pool, 1,064,740 funds the majority of the ask of the new need request for the venetian pool. 884 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:09,901 It is short by about 216,000 which we believe we can find in this year's funding. 885 01:28:09,901 --> 01:28:12,671 There's some contingency that we have available from a project that closed out. 886 01:28:12,671 --> 01:28:19,277 And we will be able to fund the full ask of the venetian pool. 887 01:28:19,277 --> 01:28:20,278 Incincreasing the 75 will allow 888 01:28:20,278 --> 01:28:22,814 full ask of the venetian pool. Incincreasing the 75 will allows to pull it from one place or the other. 889 01:28:22,814 --> 01:28:27,819 I recommend pulling from the venetian pool since that one doesn't get the full funding. 890 01:28:27,819 --> 01:28:37,395 Then maybe we reduce the 30,000 that we are recommending tomorrow from the merrick house and take the difference and put it towards the venetian pool or something like that. 891 01:28:37,395 --> 01:28:52,110 >> I guess to the mayor's point, if we move it to merrick house now we can start working on merrick house and possibly complete it as soon as possible versus if we do it in the budget, we're talking about october before we can even start considering 892 01:28:52,110 --> 01:28:52,277 it. 893 01:28:52,277 --> 01:28:59,117 >> mayor: so my point is that these are simple items that I don't even think need a permit. 894 01:28:59,117 --> 01:29:08,930 Except for maybe the exterior paint, which can be addressed in 24 hours because staff expedites that very quickly for residents. 895 01:29:08,930 --> 01:29:14,866 You have some simple wire -- I think the interior is wire lap. 896 01:29:14,866 --> 01:29:19,471 I didn't want to fall off a chair looking at the hole sitting in the ceiling. 897 01:29:19,471 --> 01:29:20,538 There are simple things. 898 01:29:20,538 --> 01:29:31,820 I remember I helped draft the legislation that removed interior permitting requirements for paint, you know, for simple things like baseboards and things like that. 899 01:29:31,820 --> 01:29:40,580 But I mean you may need for the wire lath and may have to pull a permit for that and may take a week. 900 01:29:40,458 --> 01:29:50,680 This will really spruce up the merrick house and give it that added just, you know, touch in preparation for, you know, the holiday season. 901 01:29:50,535 --> 01:29:56,700 One of the things that I don't remember -- I don't remember when was the last time we painted the interior of the merrick house. 902 01:29:56,174 --> 01:29:57,108 I'm not sure. 903 01:29:57,108 --> 01:29:58,643 I know it was -- it's okay. 904 01:29:58,643 --> 01:30:02,614 >> I don't know anything about the facility. 905 01:30:02,614 --> 01:30:05,490 >> maybe the vice mayor can give me a little guidance. 906 01:30:05,450 --> 01:30:12,824 >> well, I did do a complete inside-out tour including where the air conditioning is. 907 01:30:12,824 --> 01:30:16,394 I looked at the lath in there as well. 908 01:30:16,394 --> 01:30:17,695 >> mayor: so it's lath? 909 01:30:17,695 --> 01:30:19,130 >> there is lath in there. 910 01:30:19,130 --> 01:30:23,268 >> mayor: I'm saying in the hole by the fairp it's lath? 911 01:30:23,268 --> 01:30:25,300 >> no, the ceiling area. 912 01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:31,476 The venetian plaster and what I'm going to add too we're ultimately going to save money. 913 01:30:31,476 --> 01:30:34,780 The sooner we fix this, the less damage that's going to be done. 914 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,883 Around the air conditioner ducts, it's not apparent where the leak is. 915 01:30:38,883 --> 01:30:45,890 Because they have need additional insulation, they have to tear into that venetian plaster to do it correctly because it's leaking inside of the wall. 916 01:30:45,757 --> 01:30:48,920 I looked at the ductwork inside of the closet. 917 01:30:48,827 --> 01:30:50,562 And it's not dripping there. 918 01:30:50,562 --> 01:31:05,143 So I think this is a good choice because it's going to save us money in the long run and prevent, you know, irrepairable building to this building and possible mold intrusion which is quite expensive. 919 01:31:05,143 --> 01:31:05,476 It spirals. 920 01:31:05,476 --> 01:31:08,580 It's a labor of love, these buildings are but they are worth it. 921 01:31:08,580 --> 01:31:24,596 Just like this one, we chose to put the money into the windows here as a priority to push this forward as soon as possible to prevent additional damage to this building so we don't have more damage to the plaster and more damage to the interior. 922 01:31:24,596 --> 01:31:27,532 So I'm happy -- if you are moving, I'm happy to second. 923 01:31:27,532 --> 01:31:33,504 >> if you don't mind -- >> I know fred is having a heart attack because we're taking money from the pool. 924 01:31:33,504 --> 01:31:38,810 >> can the pool survive if we move collectively 75? 925 01:31:38,810 --> 01:31:43,481 Can you still accomplish -- >> can you still swim in it? 926 01:31:43,481 --> 01:31:43,815 >> with 75. 927 01:31:43,815 --> 01:31:46,500 >> we have a lot of long-term stuff with the pool. 928 01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:50,421 That small amount, there are still other projects that are going to take a long amount of time. 929 01:31:50,421 --> 01:31:52,557 So whatever needs to be done for that. 930 01:31:52,557 --> 01:31:54,592 >> I didn't say venetian pool, they said it. 931 01:31:54,592 --> 01:31:55,927 >> no, no, it's fine. 932 01:31:55,927 --> 01:31:58,296 Venetian pool, as you know, there's extensive projects. 933 01:31:58,296 --> 01:32:01,466 And it's going to take more tha 934 01:32:01,466 --> 01:32:01,799 there's extensive projects. And it's going to take more thaw thing. 935 01:32:01,799 --> 01:32:08,720 We have to plan it out so it's okay to look at how the funding goes in sections. 936 01:32:08,206 --> 01:32:19,500 >> mayor: why don't we -- if you don't mind, maybe what we can do is during this assessment, they may come back and say, listen, just we may need $100,000. 937 01:32:19,417 --> 01:32:26,900 Let's put a reverter that whatever funds are not used, we can always find ways to use funds. 938 01:32:26,257 --> 01:32:28,526 There are ways to use funds. 939 01:32:28,526 --> 01:32:29,727 There's one additional project. 940 01:32:29,727 --> 01:32:45,176 But the assessment says that, you know, whatever is not needed, this is what we need to do to provide a little touch-up that will get us through the next five years, you think we can put a reverter in the legislation that says whatever moneys 941 01:32:45,176 --> 01:32:48,579 are not used are directed back to the venetian pool. 942 01:32:48,579 --> 01:32:58,890 Something that I would like to see is like what I did with the whiteway lights, the legislation that I wrote. 943 01:32:58,489 --> 01:33:10,802 We have to make it a point that staff goes by these sensitive buildings and just says, look, when you look at the underhang of this building -- it's a beautiful property. 944 01:33:10,802 --> 01:33:12,570 We have to get it cleaned. 945 01:33:12,570 --> 01:33:14,572 We can't allow the cobwebs and dust. 946 01:33:14,572 --> 01:33:16,307 You can see it, it's white. 947 01:33:16,307 --> 01:33:21,646 So anything that's on it, it starts building up and building up and building up and building up. 948 01:33:21,646 --> 01:33:36,940 So I think that we need to have like some sort of checks and balances where we say, look, once a year, like what zeta does with our private tenants who rent buildings from us, say something to the effect we'll just do a quick cursory review 949 01:33:36,561 --> 01:33:41,466 of the building and say, look, everything looks clean, everything looks up to snuff. 950 01:33:41,466 --> 01:33:48,773 Because I think what ends up happening is that the caretakers of the merrick house can't be expected to do certain things. 951 01:33:48,773 --> 01:33:50,800 There are limitations. 952 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:55,460 Only staff can do that or an outside company that has the equipment that can do that. 953 01:33:55,413 --> 01:33:59,830 Especially talking about an historic building of this magnitude. 954 01:33:59,217 --> 01:34:04,880 >> I'll go ahead and amend the legislation to move the additional 75 to merrick house. 955 01:34:04,722 --> 01:34:08,693 And as the mayor said, any funds that aren't used to go back to venetian pool. 956 01:34:08,693 --> 01:34:10,995 I think that way we cover all the angles. 957 01:34:10,995 --> 01:34:12,897 So I make that amendment. 958 01:34:12,897 --> 01:34:13,998 >> yes, I second that. 959 01:34:13,998 --> 01:34:25,710 >> just to be clear then, the funding toward the merrick house will be 150,000 and the funding for venetian pool -- I rely on paula to do the math, that amount less $75,000. 960 01:34:25,710 --> 01:34:25,977 >> yes. 961 01:34:25,977 --> 01:34:34,986 >> with the language that any funds not used by the merrick house go back to venetian pool. 962 01:34:34,986 --> 01:34:55,706 >> mayor: and I would like -- for me personally, I would like to see through the manager's office, through zeta, through whoever is responsible or even the historic department, just once a year, you know, pop in what is pending so we start building 963 01:34:55,706 --> 01:35:04,480 actual knowledge and budgets based on not, hey, by the way, the following building is having catastrophic issues. 964 01:35:04,182 --> 01:35:06,717 No, we need to be aware of what's happening. 965 01:35:06,717 --> 01:35:09,487 A little bit of preventive maintenance goes a long way. 966 01:35:09,487 --> 01:35:10,540 We see it everywhere. 967 01:35:10,488 --> 01:35:16,594 So I think we need to, you know, make sure that we're at least doing that once a year, especially talking about a building of this magnitude. 968 01:35:16,594 --> 01:35:18,763 The same thing with the museum. 969 01:35:18,763 --> 01:35:21,232 We're about to spend massive funds on the museum. 970 01:35:21,232 --> 01:35:25,303 We need to make sure we don't look back after five years and say, hey, what happened. 971 01:35:25,303 --> 01:35:33,244 That's why I wrote that legislation for the whiteway lights. 972 01:35:33,244 --> 01:35:41,953 Some of the whiteway lights now are orange as a result of the sprinklers that are c corroding them. 973 01:35:41,953 --> 01:35:42,887 They are simple fixes. 974 01:35:42,887 --> 01:35:50,270 We have to ask the residents in those areas to not point the sprinklers in that direction or remove the sprinklers. 975 01:35:50,194 --> 01:35:58,436 Ever time we fix them, we spend millions of dollars bringing them up to the standard that we appreciate. 976 01:35:58,436 --> 01:35:58,803 >> thank you. 977 01:35:58,803 --> 01:36:00,872 >> mayor: we have a motion and second. 978 01:36:00,872 --> 01:36:02,974 >> all in favor. 979 01:36:02,974 --> 01:36:07,879 [ayes] >> mayor: we have a time certain at 10:30. 980 01:36:07,879 --> 01:36:15,453 Item f-1, before I pass it over to the sponsor, I'd like to welcome our esteemed mayor slesnick here with us today. 981 01:36:15,453 --> 01:36:18,523 Thank you always for your continued guidance and everything you do for the city. 982 01:36:18,523 --> 01:36:20,725 It is truly an honor to have you here. 983 01:36:20,725 --> 01:36:27,431 And we appreciate it and ask you to please join us. 984 01:36:27,431 --> 01:36:47,840 >> f-1 is name the primary thoroughfare of the gables family literacy festival within the war memorial youth center in honor of the former coral gables commissioner jeanette slesnick with literacy row. 985 01:36:47,251 --> 01:36:52,657 >> it should be commissioner because I think we should recognize her for her service to our city. 986 01:36:52,657 --> 01:36:54,325 I'd like to amend that resolution. 987 01:36:54,325 --> 01:36:59,960 This is a resolution I would love to take the credit for the idea being mine, but it is not. 988 01:36:59,263 --> 01:37:05,770 It is something that several city boards did prior to our literacy festival. 989 01:37:05,770 --> 01:37:16,280 And I thought it should be something that we as a city officially di. 990 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:26,230 Jeanett served this city not just as a member, but on a daily basis. 991 01:37:26,230 --> 01:37:28,920 I think all five of us benefited from her support. 992 01:37:28,859 --> 01:37:32,396 We always gave us her advice, whether it was positive or negative. 993 01:37:32,396 --> 01:37:39,503 She would make sure to give her opinion on what we were doing and how we were doing it in order to make this a better city. 994 01:37:39,503 --> 01:37:45,943 And the literacy festival is something that she took personally on as something she wanted to do. 995 01:37:45,943 --> 01:37:52,416 And, don, you have continued that work over the last couple of years ensuring that we have books for children who don't need them. 996 01:37:52,416 --> 01:37:58,122 I know you also did the little schoolhouse -- the little -- >> mayor: library. 997 01:37:58,122 --> 01:38:00,910 >> library that's outside of the coral gables country club. 998 01:38:00,658 --> 01:38:02,893 This was a passion of hers. 999 01:38:02,893 --> 01:38:11,350 And I think it's a small token that we can do to remember jeannett and what she did for our city, for literacy. 1000 01:38:11,202 --> 01:38:20,978 And I'm looking forward to having the literacy festival on commissioner jeannett slesnick literacy row for many years to come. 1001 01:38:20,978 --> 01:38:22,460 >> mayor: mayor, thank you for being here with us. 1002 01:38:22,460 --> 01:38:22,780 >> thank you, mr. 1003 01:38:22,780 --> 01:38:26,851 Mayor and vice mayor and commissioners. 1004 01:38:26,851 --> 01:38:33,291 Let me say that, first of all -- okay. 1005 01:38:33,291 --> 01:38:50,474 First of all, from the slesnick family and from the board member of my heart, since jeannett's passing, each of you, each of you have been so generous and kind in your outreach and recognitions and things that you have done in her name or for 1006 01:38:50,474 --> 01:38:53,770 her and for the family. 1007 01:38:53,770 --> 01:38:55,790 So I thank you, thank you, thank you for that. 1008 01:38:55,579 --> 01:38:59,250 The literacy festival was very meaningful to jeannett. 1009 01:38:59,250 --> 01:39:00,751 Literacy was meaningful to her. 1010 01:39:00,751 --> 01:39:02,386 Books were meaningful to her. 1011 01:39:02,386 --> 01:39:04,755 And she loved working with sam josephs. 1012 01:39:04,755 --> 01:39:08,993 I mean she and sam were quite a team. 1013 01:39:08,993 --> 01:39:18,135 And I mean what sam does for the city and for the literacy festival goes without saying that he is quite a personage. 1014 01:39:18,135 --> 01:39:19,937 And we think highly of him. 1015 01:39:19,937 --> 01:39:21,772 And I know jeannett did. 1016 01:39:21,772 --> 01:39:29,800 And I have today with me susie davis who worked with jeannett on these various projects hand in hand on different projects. 1017 01:39:29,513 --> 01:39:37,955 So I can only say this is a very unexpected honor and something that we receive with gratitude. 1018 01:39:37,955 --> 01:39:54,400 And I will note for you all that in the next coral gables magazine, not the one that you may receive currently, but another month away, my little article that I do, non-political article, is all about the literacy festival. 1019 01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,943 So it's about the literacy festival and what happened out there. 1020 01:39:58,943 --> 01:40:05,150 I hope people will enjoy that and show their support next year's festival and be out there. 1021 01:40:05,116 --> 01:40:08,452 And I have to tell you, I know you all were there. 1022 01:40:08,452 --> 01:40:10,870 I had a meeting that morning. 1023 01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:11,555 I came out later. 1024 01:40:11,555 --> 01:40:18,950 And what a wonderful moment for the city and for the community recreation department. 1025 01:40:18,429 --> 01:40:21,980 I mean they worked so hard. 1026 01:40:21,980 --> 01:40:25,770 And they do so many things, but this is one of the things that they do so well. 1027 01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:31,976 And fred and carolina and the whole staff, a great deal of compliments to you all. 1028 01:40:31,976 --> 01:40:35,479 I can't believe fred is still here. 1029 01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,215 [laughter] >> he can't either. 1030 01:40:38,215 --> 01:40:43,200 [laughter] >> and, you know, I was noticing earlier, I knew billy when he looked like a kid. 1031 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:47,892 And now look -- he's a distinguished older gentleman. 1032 01:40:47,892 --> 01:40:48,580 [laughter] >> distinguished. 1033 01:40:48,492 --> 01:40:51,429 >> but thank you, commissioner. 1034 01:40:51,429 --> 01:40:53,898 Thank you, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, thank you. 1035 01:40:53,898 --> 01:40:54,865 >> mayor: thank you, mayor. 1036 01:40:54,865 --> 01:41:00,000 Thank you for being with us. 1037 01:41:00,371 --> 01:41:13,684 [applause] >> what I would also like to see is that we place a street sign out there with the name of commissioner jeannett slesnick literacy row. 1038 01:41:13,684 --> 01:41:15,586 I know we spoke about it. 1039 01:41:15,586 --> 01:41:21,792 >> there are some possibilities to do at the entrance of it and maybe -- I'm always thinking of events. 1040 01:41:21,792 --> 01:41:28,165 It would be great to do an unveiling at the start of the next literacy festival in may. 1041 01:41:28,165 --> 01:41:31,350 And in our opening of the festival will be the unveiling. 1042 01:41:31,202 --> 01:41:35,940 I think something that we do like a bronze kind of plaque, I think that would be the way to go. 1043 01:41:35,940 --> 01:41:43,647 And obviously, we'll work with the family as we have done before on many things and get something that's appropriate there. 1044 01:41:43,647 --> 01:41:44,810 >> mayor: perfect. 1045 01:41:44,810 --> 01:41:47,170 >> that means I have to live until next year. 1046 01:41:47,170 --> 01:41:48,319 [laughter] >> you do. 1047 01:41:48,319 --> 01:41:51,722 >> it gfs me a goal. 1048 01:41:51,722 --> 01:41:52,560 [laughter] yes. 1049 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:53,900 >> always moves the goal post. 1050 01:41:53,691 --> 01:41:54,859 >> thank you, mayor. 1051 01:41:54,859 --> 01:41:55,860 Appreciate it. 1052 01:41:55,860 --> 01:41:59,530 >> after you're through this, I want to make a comment from the landmarks board. 1053 01:41:59,530 --> 01:42:00,598 It will be a quick comment. 1054 01:42:00,598 --> 01:42:02,660 Do you want it now? 1055 01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:02,633 >> mayor: please. 1056 01:42:02,633 --> 01:42:09,773 >> as chair of your landmarks advisory board, I wanted to say thank you from the citizens of coral gables. 1057 01:42:09,773 --> 01:42:26,590 The citizens sometimes don't realize that the landmarks that comprise the beauty of this city, venetian pool, merrick house, the desoto fountain, the entranceways and so forth, the water tower, these are 100-year-old things that are so critical. 1058 01:42:26,590 --> 01:42:34,465 And I just wanted to say, as I sat here, from our board, from the citizens, thank you for doing what it takes to keep them up. 1059 01:42:34,465 --> 01:42:35,566 I mean this is constant. 1060 01:42:35,566 --> 01:42:41,272 This commission will do this, the next commission will do it, I hope and pray and so forth. 1061 01:42:41,272 --> 01:42:46,760 As we get ready for our 100th birthday, you're doing the exact right thing. 1062 01:42:46,710 --> 01:42:49,790 Again today I say thank you, thank you, thank you. 1063 01:42:49,790 --> 01:42:50,514 >> thank you for your service on the board. 1064 01:42:50,514 --> 01:42:52,783 >> mayor: thank you, mayor, great work. 1065 01:42:52,783 --> 01:42:55,853 >> I'll make a motion. 1066 01:42:55,853 --> 01:42:56,420 >> second. 1067 01:42:56,420 --> 01:42:56,620 >> mr. 1068 01:42:56,620 --> 01:43:01,325 Mayor, we have a member of the public requesting to speak on the public. 1069 01:43:01,325 --> 01:43:01,725 >> mayor: okay. 1070 01:43:01,725 --> 01:43:03,792 >> mrs. 1071 01:43:05,429 --> 01:43:10,534 Maria cruz. 1072 01:43:10,534 --> 01:43:13,700 >> mrs. 1073 01:43:13,700 --> 01:43:14,438 Maria cruz, 1447 miller road. 1074 01:43:14,438 --> 01:43:20,311 As I sit here, I can only imagine jeannett smiling from heaven. 1075 01:43:20,311 --> 01:43:24,548 That's all I have to say. 1076 01:43:24,548 --> 01:43:24,949 Thank you. 1077 01:43:24,949 --> 01:43:26,183 >> mayor: anything else? 1078 01:43:26,183 --> 01:43:26,717 >> that's it, sir. 1079 01:43:26,717 --> 01:43:28,850 >> mayor: we have a motion and second. 1080 01:43:28,485 --> 01:43:29,653 >> commissioner castro. 1081 01:43:29,653 --> 01:43:29,920 >> yes. 1082 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:30,654 >> commissioner fernandez. 1083 01:43:30,654 --> 01:43:30,921 >> yes. 1084 01:43:30,921 --> 01:43:31,855 >> commissioner menendez. 1085 01:43:31,855 --> 01:43:32,122 >> yes. 1086 01:43:32,122 --> 01:43:33,924 >> vice mayor anderson. 1087 01:43:33,924 --> 01:43:34,580 >> yes. 1088 01:43:34,191 --> 01:43:35,526 >> mayor lago. 1089 01:43:35,526 --> 01:43:35,859 >> mayor: yes. 1090 01:43:35,859 --> 01:43:41,528 We will take a five-minute break 1091 01:46:04,208 --> 01:46:05,742 >> mayor: madam city attorney. 1092 01:46:05,742 --> 01:46:22,426 >> item 2-1 is a resolution from the historic preservation board requesting the city commissioner authorizing ad valorem tax relief for the property a 112 through 116 alhambra circle, block 22, coral gables section l according to the plat in 1093 01:46:22,426 --> 01:46:31,585 plat book 8 of the public records of miami dade county florida. 1094 01:46:31,585 --> 01:46:33,921 >> assistant historic preservation officer for the city of coral gables. 1095 01:46:33,921 --> 01:46:45,320 I'm sure you guys know, but the ad valorem program is our incentive. 1096 01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:51,380 This project we are excited to bring to you because it is incredibly worthy of having this commendation. 1097 01:46:51,380 --> 01:46:54,942 If you can run the powerpoint, please. 1098 01:46:54,942 --> 01:46:59,880 So property location, you guys are probably familiar with the alhambra hotel. 1099 01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:04,117 This is a 1926 photograph of the property. 1100 01:47:04,117 --> 01:47:07,200 And this is a photo dated last month. 1101 01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:11,240 This is a very early permit number 86 in the city. 1102 01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:15,429 It was constructed in 1924, 1925. 1103 01:47:15,429 --> 01:47:25,380 Prior to the current ownership taking hold of the property, it had been gutted outside of the scope of the demolition permit and left to sit for many, many years. 1104 01:47:25,380 --> 01:47:33,480 So to say that these owners rescued this building and brought it back to life could not be a truer statement. 1105 01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:40,988 I'm going to go through some photos of the before-and-after and show you a little bit of what they did while I tell you what they did. 1106 01:47:40,988 --> 01:47:48,262 So structural repairs, structural reinforcement of the entire building from the interior with no impact on the exterior. 1107 01:47:48,262 --> 01:47:54,100 New impact resistant casement windows and doors to match the original. 1108 01:47:54,100 --> 01:48:15,455 Existing cast iron hanging lightings, windows, doors, reliefs, columns, removal of existing non-original attic vents, restoring the original wood lattice work, restoration of the existing wood fire stairs, cart yard in the alley, new barrel 1109 01:48:15,455 --> 01:48:21,128 tiled roof, restoration of the original window grill, reintroduction of two door openings that were previously closed. 1110 01:48:21,128 --> 01:48:39,279 Stuck repair, paint, new mep systems, new tenants, installation of a new elevator on the interior and they replaced the front door system with one that lets the original entry read much more appropriately. 1111 01:48:39,279 --> 01:48:45,419 Restoration of these gates and the full courtyard, you name it, they did it. 1112 01:48:45,419 --> 01:48:48,655 This is the courtyard and that's a great photo. 1113 01:48:48,655 --> 01:48:55,950 This is the interior of the courtyard. 1114 01:48:55,262 --> 01:48:57,464 This is what they inherited. 1115 01:48:57,464 --> 01:49:01,234 [laughter] what they purchased. 1116 01:49:01,234 --> 01:49:01,401 Thankfully. 1117 01:49:01,401 --> 01:49:06,840 And then you can't really quet any great interior shots because it's all built out. 1118 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:13,113 But it's, you know, wonderful. 1119 01:49:13,113 --> 01:49:16,490 So we obviously recommend approval. 1120 01:49:16,490 --> 01:49:17,684 The historic preservation board recommended approval. 1121 01:49:17,684 --> 01:49:22,789 The owners of the property are here if you wish to hear from them or wish to thank them. 1122 01:49:22,789 --> 01:49:25,993 >> mayor: I just want to briefly say thank you to the owners. 1123 01:49:25,993 --> 01:49:36,870 I had the privilege of visiting the site and actually walking it prior to them owning it because there was a lot of issues that were happening probably six, seven years ago in the city. 1124 01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:45,145 And this was a contentious issue as a result of what had happened with the property with the previous owners and the removal of the tdrs, gutting of the building and the situation it was in. 1125 01:49:45,145 --> 01:49:57,157 Thank you so much for coming in, making a huge investment in the city and what you have done there is not only bring back this incredibly historic building important to our city, but you've gone above and beyond. 1126 01:49:57,157 --> 01:50:02,696 You brought two world-class restaurants, a bunch of great tenants in an area that needed it. 1127 01:50:02,696 --> 01:50:08,335 It's a little bit of a difficult area as a result of a location that's kind of tucked away behind a building. 1128 01:50:08,335 --> 01:50:11,838 But I also want to mention something that you didn't mention. 1129 01:50:11,838 --> 01:50:17,770 This building has a distinction that they will always have. 1130 01:50:17,770 --> 01:50:27,554 Besides the fact that it's historic, they are the only ones, the first that brought a michelin rated restaurant to the city of coral gables. 1131 01:50:27,554 --> 01:50:30,570 They are the first michelin rated restaurant in the city of coral gables. 1132 01:50:30,524 --> 01:50:32,592 And that, to me, is something amazing. 1133 01:50:32,592 --> 01:50:46,600 It's a testament to the quality, how you curated the tenants, how you went out and spent the time -- not just found any tenant just to plug into your building just to hopefully start making money and covering cost, which as you know is very, 1134 01:50:46,406 --> 01:50:56,149 very difficult in today's day and age, especially with the millions and millions and millions of dollars that you spent in renovating this building, following the guidelines of our staff and the city requirements. 1135 01:50:56,149 --> 01:51:02,155 So I just want to congratulate you and thank you for being good stewards of this building. 1136 01:51:02,155 --> 01:51:12,990 And taking it to new heights because it's a testament to the work that you do as a real estate developers and owners of property here in this community. 1137 01:51:12,299 --> 01:51:14,568 I want to thank you for that. 1138 01:51:14,568 --> 01:51:16,803 >> michelin star is not my purview at all. 1139 01:51:16,803 --> 01:51:23,760 But I did want to note that they actually took it upon themselves to list the building on the national register as well. 1140 01:51:23,243 --> 01:51:28,148 So they have really gone above and beyond what we would have wanted for this buildings. 1141 01:51:28,148 --> 01:51:31,118 >> mayor: they brought two world-class restaurants. 1142 01:51:31,118 --> 01:51:44,631 I mean again the other restboushonand we congratulate . 1143 01:51:44,631 --> 01:51:50,403 Would you like to say a few words? 1144 01:51:50,403 --> 01:51:50,604 Mr. 1145 01:51:50,604 --> 01:51:54,808 Clerk, any public comment? 1146 01:51:54,808 --> 01:51:55,709 >> no. 1147 01:51:55,709 --> 01:51:57,110 >> mayor: entertain a motion. 1148 01:51:57,110 --> 01:51:59,646 >> so moved. 1149 01:51:59,646 --> 01:51:59,946 >> second. 1150 01:51:59,946 --> 01:52:02,820 [roll call] >> mayor: yes. 1151 01:52:02,820 --> 01:52:02,916 Thank you very much. 1152 01:52:02,916 --> 01:52:03,984 Great work. 1153 01:52:03,984 --> 01:52:05,919 Congratulations. 1154 01:52:05,919 --> 01:52:07,587 Well deserved. 1155 01:52:07,587 --> 01:52:10,724 Well deserved. 1156 01:52:10,724 --> 01:52:16,960 I'm trying to see if we have enough time to sneak in e-8 and e-9 prior to 11:30. 1157 01:52:16,463 --> 01:52:17,597 We have almost 20 minutes. 1158 01:52:17,597 --> 01:52:23,360 Do you think that we can -- let's hear e-8 and e-9 that are together. 1159 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:37,450 >> mayor, I'll start with e-9, a resolution of the city commission with attachments for the period of october 1, 2023 through september 30th, 2025. 1160 01:52:37,450 --> 01:52:50,564 E-8 is an ordinance of the city commission amending chapter 46 of the code of the city of coral gables entitled pensions, plelting provisions of the 2023 to '25 collective bargaining agreement between the f.o.p. 1161 01:52:50,564 --> 01:53:02,800 Amending section 46-25, definitions amending section 46-253, providing for codification and providing for effective date. 1162 01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,812 >> mayor: do we have our finance director or raquel here? 1163 01:53:05,812 --> 01:53:11,518 >> I believe our. 1164 01:53:11,518 --> 01:53:17,290 >> mayor: I can always move on to another item, not a problem. 1165 01:53:17,290 --> 01:53:24,898 I know it's a long time coming and we've been trying to get this done for years so I think it's great to get this done before lunch. 1166 01:53:24,898 --> 01:53:28,101 >> it would be. 1167 01:53:28,101 --> 01:53:32,739 >> mayor: really quick, I'm going to move to item f-5 which is a simple one. 1168 01:53:32,739 --> 01:53:32,873 Mr. 1169 01:53:32,873 --> 01:53:38,612 Clerk, I'm moving on to something very simple. 1170 01:53:38,612 --> 01:53:45,850 This is an item I put on the agenda, item f-5 deals with -- >> that's the old agenda. 1171 01:53:45,252 --> 01:53:49,220 >> mayor: I don't have the new one. 1172 01:53:49,220 --> 01:53:52,920 >> they are renumbered. 1173 01:53:52,259 --> 01:54:01,100 >> mayor: so let me have f-6 is the item that I want to put up as the san marti sculpture. 1174 01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:05,710 Do you know if staff sent the photos? 1175 01:54:05,710 --> 01:54:05,710 >> they did. 1176 01:54:05,605 --> 01:54:16,947 >> mayor: before we put the photos up there, this is an important sculpture in the city, not only because it's called san marti, but every culture is important no matter what. 1177 01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:19,190 This sculpture was adopted to the city of coral gables. 1178 01:54:19,190 --> 01:54:24,570 In my opinion, I was out there two weeks ago with my father and activists on both sides of the issue. 1179 01:54:24,157 --> 01:54:29,296 I think we have to be very, very thoughtful and very methodical on how we conduct ourselves here as a city. 1180 01:54:29,296 --> 01:54:38,138 You know, these are one side of the discussion where individuals take advantage of that sculpture. 1181 01:54:38,138 --> 01:54:43,410 And then you also have some other photos that I have included. 1182 01:54:43,410 --> 01:54:47,948 To me, we have to be very careful to make sure that this doesn't happen here in the city. 1183 01:54:47,948 --> 01:54:49,849 And I'll tell you why. 1184 01:54:49,849 --> 01:54:56,222 I am all for individuals being able to demonstrate their constitutional rights, all for it. 1185 01:54:56,222 --> 01:55:00,660 But we cannot allow people to deface a sculpture here in the city. 1186 01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:00,927 We cannot. 1187 01:55:00,927 --> 01:55:11,738 In my opinion, I think this sends the wrong message and it only infuriates both sides of the issue because I get people who tell me, you know, we want to be able to do things peacefully. 1188 01:55:11,738 --> 01:55:13,707 We want to be able to send a message. 1189 01:55:13,707 --> 01:55:17,978 But then we have these kind of incidents that kind of infuriate both sides. 1190 01:55:17,978 --> 01:55:27,870 Then the other side wants to put a cuban flag on the memorial in recognition of jose marti's leadership. 1191 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:31,825 I'm bringing this to your attention because I was not there at this moment. 1192 01:55:31,825 --> 01:55:34,940 Our police handled the issue and did a great job. 1193 01:55:34,227 --> 01:55:35,495 We have to be very thoughtful. 1194 01:55:35,495 --> 01:55:46,639 And I think we have to send a strong message that we want people to respect on both sides of the issue, both sides of the issue any of our monuments. 1195 01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:52,112 No matter what the monument is, today it was jose marti. 1196 01:55:52,112 --> 01:55:57,250 Just bringing this to your attention because I imagine you have probably seen it on social media. 1197 01:55:57,250 --> 01:56:01,210 It painted the city as a city that was allowing this to happen. 1198 01:56:01,210 --> 01:56:04,240 And there was a little bit of confusion. 1199 01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:05,910 There was a little bit of confusion. 1200 01:56:05,258 --> 01:56:06,259 I talked to the city attorney. 1201 01:56:06,259 --> 01:56:09,295 I talked to our police chief about the issue. 1202 01:56:09,295 --> 01:56:21,975 I think we have to be proactive in sending a message that again this type of behavior is not welcome in our city and that we will do everything in our toolbox to be able to protect free speech. 1203 01:56:21,975 --> 01:56:26,813 But there has to be limits and there has to be respect. 1204 01:56:26,813 --> 01:56:26,946 Mr. 1205 01:56:26,946 --> 01:56:27,113 Clerk. 1206 01:56:27,113 --> 01:56:27,313 >> mrs. 1207 01:56:27,313 --> 01:56:36,560 Maria cruz would like to make some comments. 1208 01:56:36,189 --> 01:56:37,900 >> good morning again. 1209 01:56:37,257 --> 01:56:38,191 Mrs. 1210 01:56:38,191 --> 01:56:38,725 Maria cruz. 1211 01:56:38,725 --> 01:56:41,761 I think it is important to give credit where credit is due. 1212 01:56:41,761 --> 01:56:48,501 Thank you, mayor, for bringing this up. 1213 01:56:48,501 --> 01:56:48,802 >> mayor: mr. 1214 01:56:48,802 --> 01:56:50,370 Clerk, do you have any other comments? 1215 01:56:50,370 --> 01:56:51,710 >> no, mr. 1216 01:56:51,271 --> 01:56:51,438 Mayor. 1217 01:56:51,438 --> 01:56:53,730 >> mayor: just bringing it to your attention. 1218 01:56:53,139 --> 01:56:54,274 I don't know what we can do. 1219 01:56:54,274 --> 01:57:00,480 If you'd like to sit down with the city attorney, people have constitutional rights for freedom of speech. 1220 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:01,881 I stand by that. 1221 01:57:01,881 --> 01:57:02,682 Stand by that. 1222 01:57:02,682 --> 01:57:08,588 But let me tell you one last part of this and then we'll move on hopefully back to f-8 and f-9. 1223 01:57:08,588 --> 01:57:28,808 When there was a week later a gathering from pro democracy and pro freedom from different cuban organizations in south florida that met in front of the sculpture, the police had cordoned off the entire park. 1224 01:57:28,808 --> 01:57:31,211 What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 1225 01:57:31,211 --> 01:57:44,900 They said, listen, why are we being, you know, picked on because we notified the city that we were going to be coming to do a pro-democracy, pro human rights protest? 1226 01:57:44,791 --> 01:57:47,260 We wanted to make sure there's no confrontation. 1227 01:57:47,260 --> 01:57:48,394 The police did an amazing job. 1228 01:57:48,394 --> 01:57:53,533 I had a conversation with officer hoff. 1229 01:57:53,533 --> 01:57:57,270 She was front and center, very proactive and everything worked out well. 1230 01:57:57,270 --> 01:58:10,116 The issue is I think we have to be careful when our officers are interacting with these individuals because there's a wrong message that's sent by these individuals who are coming here to the city of coral gables. 1231 01:58:10,116 --> 01:58:12,352 One side says, why do you allow them to do this? 1232 01:58:12,352 --> 01:58:14,530 We never allowed them to do this. 1233 01:58:14,530 --> 01:58:17,824 The second part is, well, I want to do the same thing. 1234 01:58:17,824 --> 01:58:21,661 It doesn't work in anyone's favor. 1235 01:58:21,661 --> 01:58:24,631 I know some of these things just pop up from one minute to the next. 1236 01:58:24,631 --> 01:58:26,933 They are not preplanned. 1237 01:58:26,933 --> 01:58:30,690 I just wanted to bring to your attention because you may get calls about this. 1238 01:58:30,503 --> 01:58:36,309 I know it was on social media painting the city as we were being tolerant of this type of behavior. 1239 01:58:36,309 --> 01:58:37,710 I'm not tolerant of this behavior. 1240 01:58:37,710 --> 01:58:40,460 I will not stand for this behavior. 1241 01:58:40,460 --> 01:58:42,615 I am 110% on the other side of this issue. 1242 01:58:42,615 --> 01:58:44,484 There's no discussion on it, in my opinion. 1243 01:58:44,484 --> 01:58:44,884 Yes, ma'am. 1244 01:58:44,884 --> 01:58:48,521 >> fortunately, this time it wasn't, you know, spray paint or something permanent. 1245 01:58:48,521 --> 01:58:51,491 But no, we cannot be tolerant. 1246 01:58:51,491 --> 01:58:57,897 Because then the stepbrother -- and the rules apply to both sides. 1247 01:58:57,897 --> 01:59:04,470 >> I think we are a law-abiding city and law-abiding community. 1248 01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:17,500 Quite honestly, if we need to take a step back and look at what our local laws and our rules of engagement are with regards to this type of activity, maybe it's something we should do, take a look. 1249 01:59:17,250 --> 01:59:20,787 Because the world is very volatile. 1250 01:59:20,787 --> 01:59:28,595 And the hostilities are running rampant internationally, miami, south florida? 1251 01:59:28,595 --> 01:59:31,300 , coral gables, we're no exception. 1252 01:59:31,300 --> 01:59:32,980 We do believe in the rule of law. 1253 01:59:32,832 --> 01:59:43,743 So I think it's time to perhaps take a look at what we have on the books and to see if maybe we have to tweak it in accordance to what's unfolding around us. 1254 01:59:43,743 --> 01:59:50,450 >> echoing some of the comments that have already been made, individuals do have a first amendment right to protest. 1255 01:59:50,450 --> 01:59:53,620 That is something that they have a constitutional right to do so. 1256 01:59:53,620 --> 01:59:56,456 It has to be done in a respectful way. 1257 01:59:56,456 --> 01:59:59,626 Just like the way that, you know, discourse is handled. 1258 01:59:59,626 --> 02:00:16,876 It is important that those who are coming to coral gables to protest understand that you have the right to protest, but you do not have a right to deface something that means so much to members of this community who have fought for freedom for 1259 02:00:16,876 --> 02:00:17,944 so many years. 1260 02:00:17,944 --> 02:00:27,854 As the mayor's dad and others who came before us who have fought for freedom in our community, do it in a respectful way. 1261 02:00:27,854 --> 02:00:31,791 I commend chief hudak. 1262 02:00:31,791 --> 02:00:35,610 He told me it was something handled by the officers on the scene. 1263 02:00:35,610 --> 02:00:39,165 Our officers have been properly trained to address and de-escalate situations like this. 1264 02:00:39,165 --> 02:00:52,312 And I appreciate the training that we have offered our officers and their commitment to preserving the rule of law and preserving those individuals' rights to the first amendment as well. 1265 02:00:52,312 --> 02:00:52,712 >> mayor: okay, mr. 1266 02:00:52,712 --> 02:00:54,470 Clerk, we have another public comment? 1267 02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:54,781 >> yes, mr. 1268 02:00:54,781 --> 02:00:55,348 Mayor. 1269 02:00:55,348 --> 02:01:03,556 On zoom, we have myra jollee who would like to make some comments on this item. 1270 02:01:03,556 --> 02:01:03,856 >> mayor: ms. 1271 02:01:03,856 --> 02:01:04,357 Jolee, good morning. 1272 02:01:04,357 --> 02:01:06,920 >> good morning. 1273 02:01:06,359 --> 02:01:07,600 >> mayor: I'm sorry to interrupt you. 1274 02:01:07,327 --> 02:01:10,630 We can barely hear you, I apologize. 1275 02:01:10,630 --> 02:01:12,131 >> what about now? 1276 02:01:12,131 --> 02:01:19,720 >> mayor: can you put it a little bit higher if you don't mind? 1277 02:01:19,205 --> 02:01:19,672 >> okay. 1278 02:01:19,672 --> 02:01:23,810 That's as high as it go. 1279 02:01:23,810 --> 02:01:24,770 >> mayor: okay. 1280 02:01:24,210 --> 02:01:27,547 >> can you hear me if I talk louder? 1281 02:01:27,547 --> 02:01:30,160 >> mayor: it's still low but we want to hear what you have to say. 1282 02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:30,830 Please go ahead. 1283 02:01:30,717 --> 02:01:31,617 >> okay. 1284 02:01:31,617 --> 02:01:33,753 My video is not coming through? 1285 02:01:33,753 --> 02:01:35,880 >> your video, no. 1286 02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:38,570 >> mayor: your video is not coming through, now it's just a blank screen. 1287 02:01:38,570 --> 02:01:41,761 Just says your name on it. 1288 02:01:41,761 --> 02:01:50,870 >> let me fix it, okay, because I need you guys to see me and what I'm going to say. 1289 02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:54,173 I don't want anybody to think that I'm hiding. 1290 02:01:54,173 --> 02:01:57,977 Let me see if I can do it like that, okay. 1291 02:01:57,977 --> 02:01:58,511 All right. 1292 02:01:58,511 --> 02:02:02,782 That's the best I can do. 1293 02:02:02,782 --> 02:02:13,590 I understand and I applaud the fact that we are protecting our monument. 1294 02:02:13,226 --> 02:02:23,690 In this case, what somebody tried to do to the jose marti. 1295 02:02:23,690 --> 02:02:26,305 In the same predicament I find myself. 1296 02:02:26,305 --> 02:02:47,560 And I ask this body if there is the same as me being offended because our american flag is being displayed and having another flag of the lgbtq+ community under the flag of the united states of america. 1297 02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:54,534 If we are going to protect our monument, the flag is the representative of all of us. 1298 02:02:54,534 --> 02:02:55,735 That union of everybody. 1299 02:02:55,735 --> 02:03:09,849 I realize that there is another side of city hall in which is flown -- I think the city of coral gables flag or the city of miami, I'm not sure. 1300 02:03:09,849 --> 02:03:16,756 And I suggest, and I will ask, that the flag of the lgbtq be moved to that side. 1301 02:03:16,756 --> 02:03:26,799 At least allow the flag of the united states of america, which is the flag that unite us all, to be flown by itself. 1302 02:03:26,799 --> 02:03:42,482 Not with any other flag because that is going to create more division and more hostility and it is something that shouldn't be part of the city hall of our government to take any position whatsoever. 1303 02:03:42,482 --> 02:03:58,297 And if that's the case, I would suggest then if the flag have to be flown, I will suggest that a flag of the heterosexual pride be flown also or the flag of the 10 commandments. 1304 02:03:58,297 --> 02:03:58,564 Thank you. 1305 02:03:58,564 --> 02:03:59,650 >> mayor: thank you very much. 1306 02:03:59,198 --> 02:04:02,602 Have a wonderful day. 1307 02:04:02,602 --> 02:04:03,350 Mr. 1308 02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:03,690 Clerk. 1309 02:04:03,202 --> 02:04:03,569 >> mr. 1310 02:04:03,569 --> 02:04:04,604 Mayor. 1311 02:04:04,604 --> 02:04:05,400 >> mayor: okay, perfect. 1312 02:04:05,204 --> 02:04:07,507 Worry not taking any action. 1313 02:04:07,507 --> 02:04:11,310 Moving to item f-8 and f-9. 1314 02:04:11,310 --> 02:04:14,180 >> mayor, it's e-8 and e-9. 1315 02:04:14,180 --> 02:04:16,315 And I already read them into the record. 1316 02:04:16,315 --> 02:04:18,584 >> we're doing the resolution first? 1317 02:04:18,584 --> 02:04:19,151 >> I think so. 1318 02:04:19,151 --> 02:04:19,919 That would be appropriate. 1319 02:04:19,919 --> 02:04:26,800 >> good morning, raquel risk management for the city. 1320 02:04:26,776 --> 02:04:31,480 We have reached a two-year agreement with the fraternal order of police. 1321 02:04:31,480 --> 02:04:35,840 The agreement is from october 1, 2023 through september 30th of 2025. 1322 02:04:35,484 --> 02:04:37,220 The agreement has been approved by the f.o.p. 1323 02:04:37,220 --> 02:04:41,991 And it is before you pending your final ratification and approval. 1324 02:04:41,991 --> 02:04:50,433 Under the agreement, police officers receive significant salary increases, improvements to the pension plan and additional benefits which I can go into detail if you would like. 1325 02:04:50,433 --> 02:04:57,673 The city views this as a very favorable and financially sound contract beneficial to both the city and the employees. 1326 02:04:57,673 --> 02:04:58,700 >> mayor: thank you. 1327 02:04:58,140 --> 02:05:00,760 Do we have any public comment? 1328 02:05:00,209 --> 02:05:01,444 >> yes, mr. 1329 02:05:01,444 --> 02:05:01,777 Mayor. 1330 02:05:01,777 --> 02:05:04,177 Mrs. 1331 02:05:12,955 --> 02:05:13,789 Maria cruz. 1332 02:05:13,789 --> 02:05:15,691 >> mrs. 1333 02:05:15,691 --> 02:05:16,892 Maria cruz, 1447 miller road. 1334 02:05:16,892 --> 02:05:19,428 I want to make it simple. 1335 02:05:19,428 --> 02:05:26,369 I support both e-8 and e-9. 1336 02:05:26,369 --> 02:05:26,736 Very supportive. 1337 02:05:26,736 --> 02:05:28,870 >> mayor: I have a motion. 1338 02:05:28,387 --> 02:05:31,991 >> a move it. 1339 02:05:31,991 --> 02:05:32,291 >> second. 1340 02:05:32,291 --> 02:05:37,296 >> just to be clear, we're voting on the resolution first. 1341 02:05:37,296 --> 02:05:38,931 >> yes. 1342 02:05:38,931 --> 02:05:39,665 >> commissioner menendez. 1343 02:05:39,665 --> 02:05:39,932 >> yes. 1344 02:05:39,932 --> 02:05:40,766 >> vice mayor anderson. 1345 02:05:40,766 --> 02:05:41,330 >> yes. 1346 02:05:41,330 --> 02:05:42,680 >> commissioner castro. 1347 02:05:42,201 --> 02:05:42,468 >> yes. 1348 02:05:42,468 --> 02:05:43,690 >> commissioner fernandez. 1349 02:05:43,690 --> 02:05:43,690 >> yes. 1350 02:05:43,336 --> 02:05:44,700 >> mayor lago. 1351 02:05:44,700 --> 02:05:44,700 >> mayor: yes. 1352 02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:46,372 Moving on to e-8. 1353 02:05:46,372 --> 02:06:01,530 >> so e-8 is the pension ordinance implementing the pension changes that you just ratified in the collective bargaining agreement and those pension changes are allowing about $300 of overtime to be pensionable, removing the retirement cap and 1354 02:06:01,387 --> 02:06:05,825 making the fdle pay that will start in fiscal year '25 pensionable. 1355 02:06:05,825 --> 02:06:07,426 >> I'll move it. 1356 02:06:07,426 --> 02:06:07,760 >> second. 1357 02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:08,600 >> mayor: mr. 1358 02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,960 Clerk, do we have any public comment on e-8? 1359 02:06:10,262 --> 02:06:12,640 >> no, mr. 1360 02:06:12,264 --> 02:06:12,498 Mayor. 1361 02:06:12,498 --> 02:06:13,332 Vice mayor anderson. 1362 02:06:13,332 --> 02:06:13,599 >> yes. 1363 02:06:13,599 --> 02:06:14,700 >> commissioner castro. 1364 02:06:14,700 --> 02:06:14,967 >> yes. 1365 02:06:14,967 --> 02:06:15,568 >> commissioner fernandez. 1366 02:06:15,568 --> 02:06:15,835 >> yes. 1367 02:06:15,835 --> 02:06:16,869 >> commissioner menendez. 1368 02:06:16,869 --> 02:06:17,300 >> yes. 1369 02:06:17,136 --> 02:06:18,604 >> mayor lago. 1370 02:06:18,604 --> 02:06:18,971 >> mayor: yes. 1371 02:06:18,971 --> 02:06:19,710 >> thank you. 1372 02:06:19,338 --> 02:06:32,284 >> I just wanted to take a moment to thank you, madam director, the chief, the manager and everybody who was part of this negotiation, our police union president challenger for the efforts made to find a consensus and reach an agreement that 1373 02:06:32,284 --> 02:06:38,124 will make sure that we adequately pay our officers and begin filling our vacancies as quickly as possible. 1374 02:06:38,124 --> 02:06:40,459 I think this is a great step forward for our city. 1375 02:06:40,459 --> 02:06:44,664 And I appreciate the work that all of you put into this. 1376 02:06:44,664 --> 02:06:49,935 >> chris challenger did want to be here today but he is out of town and I believe in orlando in an f.o.p. 1377 02:06:49,935 --> 02:06:50,102 Conference. 1378 02:06:50,102 --> 02:06:50,770 >> mayor: thank you. 1379 02:06:50,770 --> 02:06:52,710 >> thank you. 1380 02:06:52,204 --> 02:06:56,750 >> mayor: moving on to -- we have a time certain item at 11:30. 1381 02:06:56,750 --> 02:07:03,149 Maybe we can hear one more, item f-8 and go through something very quick. 1382 02:07:03,149 --> 02:07:10,220 F-8 is something I have been working on for the last probably year and a half and change. 1383 02:07:10,122 --> 02:07:13,159 It was brought to me by a resident during office hours. 1384 02:07:13,159 --> 02:07:20,900 And it's been something that, you know, I think is going to be a positive, positive opportunity for the city. 1385 02:07:20,900 --> 02:07:24,470 Thank you for jumping up here, my friend, I appreciate it. 1386 02:07:24,470 --> 02:07:28,874 I don't know if we have some -- do we have some -- do we have any slide? 1387 02:07:28,874 --> 02:07:30,900 >> we have a couple of slides. 1388 02:07:30,176 --> 02:07:31,777 >> mayor: okay, perfect. 1389 02:07:31,777 --> 02:07:33,913 This was something brought to me by a resident. 1390 02:07:33,913 --> 02:07:35,247 We started talking about it. 1391 02:07:35,247 --> 02:07:57,503 I brought matt in, solange, what I have been doing a long time besides recycling like everybody else, trying to recycle our plastic bags, since preempted by styrofoam and plastic bags, credit where credit is due, my daughters are fan oocts of 1392 02:07:57,503 --> 02:07:57,903 environmental stewardship. 1393 02:07:57,903 --> 02:08:03,142 They want to put away the plastic bags and not throw them away because you can't put them in recycling. 1394 02:08:03,142 --> 02:08:06,278 We tell people that's contaminants. 1395 02:08:06,278 --> 02:08:11,584 What we are doing is -- this interesting individual brought this forward. 1396 02:08:11,584 --> 02:08:14,860 She was incredibly enthusiastic. 1397 02:08:14,253 --> 02:08:16,655 We brought it to the commission I think two times. 1398 02:08:16,655 --> 02:08:19,910 We are trying to find the proper fit over the last two years. 1399 02:08:19,425 --> 02:08:28,734 This is an opportunity that instead of having to go to publix to drop off your plastic bags because it gets full very quickly, you can now start doing something at home. 1400 02:08:28,734 --> 02:08:37,760 Save all your plastic bag bags and we'll be able to deliver them to three locations in the city of coral gables and it will give us an opportunity to really get some rewards in the future. 1401 02:08:37,476 --> 02:08:43,649 With that, I'd like for our incredible team, who does a wonderful job, to take a away. 1402 02:08:43,649 --> 02:08:45,840 >> good morning, mayor, commissioners. 1403 02:08:45,184 --> 02:08:53,993 We have a few slides to talk a little bit about the impact of the program, just always like to start on the impact we're having in our community through our keep coral gables beautiful program. 1404 02:08:53,993 --> 02:09:01,967 Since we became an affiliate in july of 2020, we have done over 176 events and programs in that short period of time. 1405 02:09:01,967 --> 02:09:07,720 We have been really, really busy between solange and myself and my team that is back in the office. 1406 02:09:07,173 --> 02:09:08,107 We have been busy. 1407 02:09:08,107 --> 02:09:13,450 We just had a cleanup event at ingraham park this past friday. 1408 02:09:13,450 --> 02:09:16,810 So we have engaged with over 28,000 participants. 1409 02:09:16,549 --> 02:09:24,857 And we have been able to remove over 790,000 pounds from the waste stream basically. 1410 02:09:24,857 --> 02:09:26,910 So go to the next slide. 1411 02:09:26,258 --> 02:09:39,839 So the program that we launched actually on may 31st, we had a launch event -- is you can now bring your plastic bags, all listed there, take them to one of three facilities. 1412 02:09:39,839 --> 02:09:51,317 We have bins located in the lobby at the adult activity center, at the youth center and at our new parking and mobility services offices in the new minorca garage. 1413 02:09:51,317 --> 02:09:54,820 So we have those three bins located in those locations. 1414 02:09:54,820 --> 02:09:57,223 You have see the list of items that you can bring. 1415 02:09:57,223 --> 02:10:01,360 And we picked this program because we were able to set this program up. 1416 02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:03,996 We were looking at two different programs. 1417 02:10:03,996 --> 02:10:11,503 The n nextrex and tara recycle, because this is zero cost to the city, zero impact to the city. 1418 02:10:11,503 --> 02:10:13,405 We were able to get these bins for free. 1419 02:10:13,405 --> 02:10:19,111 And my team is going to be the ones handling logistics when the bins are full. 1420 02:10:19,111 --> 02:10:21,780 We are coordinating with sprouts on 27th avenue. 1421 02:10:21,780 --> 02:10:23,816 And my team will be taking those items over. 1422 02:10:23,816 --> 02:10:28,821 And they have a much larger brand that they coordinate with nextrex and we will deposit those there. 1423 02:10:28,821 --> 02:10:31,757 And then nextrex picks up the programs from there. 1424 02:10:31,757 --> 02:10:36,161 Again, keeping cost at a minimum to no cost to the city was important to us. 1425 02:10:36,161 --> 02:10:37,897 And establishing programs like this. 1426 02:10:37,897 --> 02:10:41,600 We have seen a lot of success in the programs we have 1427 02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:51,210 from the reverse vending machine to the battery program, to the drug disposal program we started, so we anticipate this having the same level of success. 1428 02:10:51,210 --> 02:10:59,510 These are just items that we aren't accepted into the program, so folks can take those and throw these out in their regular garbage. 1429 02:10:59,351 --> 02:11:07,326 We have all of these marketing materials up on the bins themselves and on our city website, on our keep coral gables beautiful website. 1430 02:11:07,326 --> 02:11:22,942 >> something important that we wanted to make sure that our residents and visitors are going to be using this program understand is that while they can recycle these items at these specific bins, this is not something they can recycle at home. 1431 02:11:22,942 --> 02:11:26,845 We had the additional signage printed and they are on the side of each bin. 1432 02:11:26,845 --> 02:11:37,156 We have a smaller decal as well that's going to be right behind the bin itself at each of the locations, providing the same information. 1433 02:11:37,156 --> 02:11:45,798 We want to make sure that they don't throw these plastic bags at home, only in here. 1434 02:11:45,798 --> 02:12:02,470 The printing of these signs and materials are essentially at no cost to the city because we are able to use our fdot grant fund that coral gables received earlier in the year to do this printing, which is why you see the fdot logo on the bottom. 1435 02:12:02,281 --> 02:12:10,890 >> mayor: first, I want to commend you both for working on this over the last year and a half, thank you for that, and the resident who brought it to us, she's amazing. 1436 02:12:10,522 --> 02:12:12,958 She was never deterred. 1437 02:12:12,958 --> 02:12:19,631 It was the most efficient way and to do something for the environment. 1438 02:12:19,631 --> 02:12:41,854 It's to divert is much waste as possible from the stream so it doesn't land up in landfills, rivers or parks, and it also offers, for example, people who are recycling, the opportunity to save it, so severe quarter, I have a big bag that I have, 1439 02:12:41,854 --> 02:12:48,994 I put all of the plastic bags into it along with everything else you accept, I usually take it to publix. 1440 02:12:48,994 --> 02:12:53,980 Now I have an opportunity take it to three facility in coral gables. 1441 02:12:53,265 --> 02:12:55,634 I'll mention it in my news letter. 1442 02:12:55,634 --> 02:13:07,120 I ask you to send the information out there because we can have a real impact and divert as much waste and re recycle it from the waste stream. 1443 02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:08,800 Thank you to your entire team. 1444 02:13:08,313 --> 02:13:10,716 I was happy to see when we got this started. 1445 02:13:10,716 --> 02:13:23,128 The best part about it, the best part is we're being more sustainability we're saving money, but the best part about it is that we will be able to get a bench out of this or two or three or four. 1446 02:13:23,128 --> 02:13:30,436 >> we have two more slides just showing the products that once we reach certain thresholds that we're able to get. 1447 02:13:30,436 --> 02:13:50,589 Mostly focusing on is the bench and this will be a great partnership that once with you get to the thresholds, we can put it out on a park and highlight ting that circular product which would be waste, but turning it into an item. 1448 02:13:50,589 --> 02:13:57,196 When we were looking for locations, they were always volunteering to say the youth center or even the adult activity center. 1449 02:13:57,196 --> 02:14:09,872 They were very excitedded to have the launch event there because they've had a lot of residents asking for similar type 1450 02:14:12,845 --> 02:14:13,110 . 1451 02:14:13,110 --> 02:14:26,391 >> the residents who spoke to the mayor on this, we discussed it on the board as well, marlin everett, again, resident driven and bringing the program through fruition is something we're excited about. 1452 02:14:26,391 --> 02:14:28,160 >> mayor: two last points for consideration. 1453 02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:37,336 I sent the manager probably about a month and a half ago photos of our solar benches, which is something I brought to the city. 1454 02:14:37,336 --> 02:14:38,403 They're rusting out there. 1455 02:14:38,403 --> 02:14:42,207 We need to address that, we sneed to figure it out. 1456 02:14:42,207 --> 02:14:46,440 It's looking really bad, especially in ponce circle park. 1457 02:14:46,440 --> 02:15:01,426 These benches, since their free and we're collecting all of the material I think it's a opportunity to potentially month ties it, so we can put somebody's name on it, whatever staff thinks is appropriate. 1458 02:15:01,426 --> 02:15:18,810 500, a thousand dollars, do it on behalf of somebody, somebody doing an incredible job, employee of the year, somebody dedicated to sustainability or maybe there's a company that they want to cut a check and that money can be used for other 1459 02:15:18,810 --> 02:15:30,222 sustainability events, like the donations we accept for the cleanups, which I donate regularly personally so we can give people an inconsistent to go out there and find as much garbage as possible. 1460 02:15:30,222 --> 02:15:44,970 Maybe we can use these benches and say, sponsor this bench, a thousand dollars, $5,000, whatever the number is, and we'll get these companies to put their name on t it's in perpetuity as long as the bench last. 1461 02:15:44,970 --> 02:15:48,507 These are made of plastic so they will last for a long, long time. 1462 02:15:48,507 --> 02:16:04,890 I think it's an opportunity to month ties it and use the funds we get to even more sustainable products. 1463 02:16:04,890 --> 02:16:04,890 Yes, ma'am. 1464 02:16:04,389 --> 02:16:19,605 >> I do have questions there's dog food bags and stuff. 1465 02:16:19,605 --> 02:16:36,321 >> all of that information, we not only have on the events themselves, but on the website with additional details in the links to the locations and what can and can't be recycled, then we've sent out in our keep coral gables beautiful newsletter 1466 02:16:36,321 --> 02:16:42,761 last week I believe, we'll continue to promote the program like we do the battery recycling throughout the year. 1467 02:16:42,761 --> 02:16:47,799 >> mayor: you all e-mails and liaisons are on the news letter list. 1468 02:16:47,799 --> 02:17:02,514 Let is know if it's not getting to you, but we added you all, we did that about a month ago, so you guys are seeing when we're having events and launch events, so let us know if you have any questions. 1469 02:17:02,514 --> 02:17:10,220 And this material is attached to the agenda item and we'll make sure you have it for your newsletters and be able to share with residents. 1470 02:17:10,155 --> 02:17:10,422 >> okay. 1471 02:17:10,422 --> 02:17:14,890 >> mayor: thank you very much. 1472 02:17:15,193 --> 02:17:18,930 Awesome work. 1473 02:17:18,930 --> 02:17:22,434 >> exciting, I can clean out my garage. 1474 02:17:22,434 --> 02:17:24,369 >> mayor: moving on to f 3. 1475 02:17:24,369 --> 02:17:41,353 >> resolution of the city commission authorizing a maximum reimbursement not to exceed -- for the labor and materials necessary to install a new ada ramp and railings leected at 280 miracle mile, coral gables, florida, as previously authorized 1476 02:17:41,353 --> 02:17:44,220 by resolution 2024-96. 1477 02:17:44,156 --> 02:18:00,500 >> at this time, I'd like to welcome barbara stein, executive producing director of actors playhouse to help discuss this issue, this item so that we can better be informed and make a decision. 1478 02:18:00,439 --> 02:18:01,940 >> thank you very much. 1479 02:18:01,940 --> 02:18:07,312 >> mayor: good morning. 1480 02:18:07,312 --> 02:18:11,160 >> thank you for the opportunity to be here today and for proposing the resolution. 1481 02:18:11,149 --> 02:18:29,340 I'd like to introduce our general manager of actors playhouse, brook noibl, and our production manager and director of facility management at the theater, carlos, who works very close with the city for all facility matters over the years. 1482 02:18:29,340 --> 02:18:32,738 We're grateful for the opportunity to be able to serve the community better with this ramp. 1483 02:18:32,738 --> 02:18:36,241 Thank you for the opportunity to consider it. 1484 02:18:36,241 --> 02:18:49,870 We've submitted two additional bids as requested by the commission at the last meeting and I'm happy to address any questions you may have about this situation. 1485 02:18:49,454 --> 02:19:00,665 >> I pr appreciate the time to be able to speak to you yesterday, view the facility, and look at the needs and various ways to address that. 1486 02:19:00,665 --> 02:19:21,620 Also wanted to bring up to the attention of the manager, too, that we could facilitate the facility better by adding a dropoff area, just moving one of the regular parking spots I and handicap spots to one central dropoff because there's people 1487 02:19:21,620 --> 02:19:39,704 who are dropped off by people who can walk well into the facility, and I'll do remote parking if I can ever get my husband to come along, is but I don't need to occupy a handicapped parking space, but he cannot do the walk to get to the distance, 1488 02:19:39,704 --> 02:19:47,780 but I appreciate the time being able to walk through the facility, see the mezzanine area and the needs as well. 1489 02:19:47,379 --> 02:19:52,830 I did go over with your facilities manager a couple of other items that are necessary. 1490 02:19:52,451 --> 02:20:11,169 I also appreciated your willingness to consider doing a loan and I'd like to challenge my colleagues here to raise money necessary to pay this off rather than the taxpayer dollars going in that because I looked at the lease and it does cause 1491 02:20:11,169 --> 02:20:14,940 some concern that what we do for one, we have to do for another. 1492 02:20:14,940 --> 02:20:28,860 We have that same issue with whether it's protesters thinking that they are, treated differently, and we have that with tenants as well. 1493 02:20:28,820 --> 02:20:46,905 I'm willing to go to the challenge of talk to other folks who are supporters and were not aware that this need existed, and they're willing to donate as well to fill this need that is an opportune time to be mable to make this renovation inside 1494 02:20:46,905 --> 02:20:47,472 the facility. 1495 02:20:47,472 --> 02:20:48,540 >> thank you, vice-mayor. 1496 02:20:48,540 --> 02:20:53,612 I would like to substantiate your request for the holding zone out in front of the theater. 1497 02:20:53,612 --> 02:20:58,116 We have many requests from people who have special needs and it's difficult to get in. 1498 02:20:58,116 --> 02:21:00,352 I appreciate that recommendation. 1499 02:21:00,352 --> 02:21:01,920 >> thank you. 1500 02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:04,322 >> mayor: anything else? 1501 02:21:04,322 --> 02:21:15,000 >> I mean, that's my suggestion on how we handle this matter because we have a fiduciary responsibility of the funds of the city and to maintain the terms of the lease. 1502 02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:35,820 >> I just want to add that when I was talking to the city attorney and her team regarding this legislation and this matter, I think it's important and I'm grateful that was added from the city attorney's office, that this body has the authority 1503 02:21:35,820 --> 02:21:41,260 to expend the funds for valid municipal purpose. 1504 02:21:41,260 --> 02:22:04,132 I think helping with provide ada compliant ramp and railings is a valid municipal purpose, so I just wanted to make sure that folks understand that in the legislation itself, it does recognize that we have the authority to do so. 1505 02:22:04,132 --> 02:22:12,507 I can understand the concerns about you do for one, you do for the other, but we've encountered a lot of issues, even with historic preservation. 1506 02:22:12,507 --> 02:22:13,575 Where we vote? 1507 02:22:13,575 --> 02:22:16,110 Favor for one and not the other, so that's our role. 1508 02:22:16,110 --> 02:22:38,199 Our role is to go case by case, item by item and make, sometimes the easy decision, sometimes the more challenging decisions, but I'm not concerned abouter others who may have an issue, like the museum, because quite hoinltd, we're here to go 1509 02:22:38,199 --> 02:22:40,350 on a case by case manner. 1510 02:22:40,235 --> 02:22:46,975 I honestly believe this is a community purpose that we're doing. 1511 02:22:46,975 --> 02:22:57,850 >> I have no doubt it's a municipal purpose, but I will make a motion to convert it to a loan and challenge you to raise a portion of the money. 1512 02:22:57,319 --> 02:23:10,799 Each one of us if we raise $8,000 roughly speaking, we'll be able to fill this need without causing an issue in the city about doing for one and not doing for another because this will come back, this will come back to address each and every 1513 02:23:10,799 --> 02:23:13,635 one of us if we treat them differently. 1514 02:23:13,635 --> 02:23:20,800 If we deviate from terms of leases on one and not another. 1515 02:23:20,141 --> 02:23:27,615 >> one of the issues and probably may explain, there's a window that you have -- I'm sorry, through the mayor. 1516 02:23:27,615 --> 02:23:28,683 >> mayor: we have a motion. 1517 02:23:28,683 --> 02:23:31,860 You made a motion? 1518 02:23:31,860 --> 02:23:31,860 >> yes. 1519 02:23:31,519 --> 02:23:33,988 >> mayor: does anybody want to second the motion? 1520 02:23:33,988 --> 02:23:39,940 I'll second the motion. 1521 02:23:39,194 --> 02:23:39,327 Mr. 1522 02:23:39,327 --> 02:23:42,731 Clerk, do we have public comment before I move forward? 1523 02:23:42,731 --> 02:23:45,400 >> yes, mr. 1524 02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:45,533 Mayor. 1525 02:23:45,533 --> 02:23:47,435 Ms. 1526 02:23:47,435 --> 02:23:57,679 Maria cruz. 1527 02:23:57,679 --> 02:23:59,781 >> mrs. 1528 02:23:59,781 --> 02:24:04,517 Maria cruz. 1529 02:24:04,519 --> 02:24:14,950 $41,900 to provide ada complaint ramp and railings for people that need that. 1530 02:24:14,329 --> 02:24:45,393 , and we're debating whether we need to fund raise, whether we need to get people to volunteer to donate, but yet I'm sitting here wondering how did we approve the remodeling, repair, refinishing, whatever we call burger bob's, that is a facility 1531 02:24:45,393 --> 02:25:07,115 for people to go have lunches, breakfast, maybe dinners, that we started with I think half a million dollars or maybe less, and now because we wanted to make it a world class place, it's up to more than a million dollars. 1532 02:25:07,115 --> 02:25:11,520 But yet, this is a need, and we cannot keep postponing it. 1533 02:25:11,352 --> 02:25:14,689 This needs to be done. 1534 02:25:14,689 --> 02:25:27,869 It's our facility, 41 $41,900 is laughable when we spend money for things that are not needed that could have been done for much less. 1535 02:25:27,869 --> 02:25:34,309 I am sorry, I support the item as written and I think it's long overdue that we do this. 1536 02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:37,445 >> okay, so I just want to clarify something. 1537 02:25:37,445 --> 02:25:40,810 No one is saying it's not going to be approved. 1538 02:25:40,248 --> 02:25:44,986 It's called a loan and the money would be immediately provided. 1539 02:25:44,986 --> 02:25:47,922 >> so I think we will need some clarification on that. 1540 02:25:47,922 --> 02:25:55,463 >> mayor: before we move, madam city attorney, I think there were some comments that were made that I think may have to be corrected. 1541 02:25:55,463 --> 02:26:00,101 Number one, when you talk about burger bob's, that's a city-controlled asset. 1542 02:26:00,101 --> 02:26:01,870 There is no tenant in that property. 1543 02:26:01,870 --> 02:26:05,273 No one is making money on that property. 1544 02:26:05,273 --> 02:26:17,151 The city in the long discussion that we have, the city will control that property and we will run it just like we're doing with other entities here in the city. 1545 02:26:17,151 --> 02:26:23,191 And number two, that project was dealt through the budgeting process. 1546 02:26:23,191 --> 02:26:25,827 We had a budget cycle, we discussed it. 1547 02:26:25,827 --> 02:26:29,970 We wanted to find out how much money to allocate to that project. 1548 02:26:29,764 --> 02:26:32,600 We took money from different line items. 1549 02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:40,708 Case in point, correct me if I'm wrong, I think $500,000 from the land acquisition line item was moved over where it was 250. 1550 02:26:40,708 --> 02:26:47,315 And I'm not sure exact what it was, I can't remember at this moment, but we went through a budgeting process. 1551 02:26:47,315 --> 02:26:57,492 It wasn't brought up to the commission as an emergency that needed to be addressed, so those are things that need to be corrected on the record to make sure that we have the right information. 1552 02:26:57,492 --> 02:27:03,565 Before we move on to the city attorney and further comment, I want to make sure we address all public comment. 1553 02:27:03,565 --> 02:27:03,731 Mr. 1554 02:27:03,731 --> 02:27:05,700 Clerk, do we have anything else? 1555 02:27:05,700 --> 02:27:06,601 >> no, mr. 1556 02:27:06,601 --> 02:27:06,935 Mayor. 1557 02:27:06,935 --> 02:27:09,270 >> mayor: I'll close public comment. 1558 02:27:09,270 --> 02:27:11,239 Madam city attorney, sorry to interrupt you. 1559 02:27:11,239 --> 02:27:16,544 >> yes, we would need clarification for the motion because the city is not in the business of loaning money. 1560 02:27:16,544 --> 02:27:31,759 My understanding, as drafted, the item provided for a reimbursement, so the project would be completed or they would make request for rght once the work is done once the city received documentation to the satisfaction of the city and staff and 1561 02:27:31,759 --> 02:27:33,695 there would be a reimbursement. 1562 02:27:33,695 --> 02:27:36,970 I would need clarification as what's meant. 1563 02:27:36,297 --> 02:27:50,578 You mean funding, then incorporate something for that to be repaid, but my understand r understanding is that we wouldn't give them anything up front because they'll seek reimbursement once it's done? 1564 02:27:50,578 --> 02:27:59,530 >> it could be rephrased. 1565 02:27:59,220 --> 02:28:13,901 In the meantime, there are people willing to donate and I feel strongly that actors playhouse is a very important piece of our city, is but the devil is in the details. 1566 02:28:13,901 --> 02:28:33,254 I cannot take a lease that is in writing right now and we have similar terms for other tenants, that had to pay for things that are apart of the terms of their lease and treat them differently than another tenant and just reimburse for things 1567 02:28:33,254 --> 02:28:35,890 at the last minute here. 1568 02:28:35,890 --> 02:28:40,695 So that's why I rephrase this and I think it's the fair way to do it. 1569 02:28:40,695 --> 02:28:46,601 I do think that there's fund raising that could be done for this 501c3. 1570 02:28:46,601 --> 02:28:49,470 It's a very vibrant facility in our community. 1571 02:28:49,470 --> 02:29:08,823 I know from the folks that I spoke to that if a call for this particular item had been done for donations, that they would have been willing to open up their pocketbook and pay, so there's no need for it to come from our city cafrs when there's 1572 02:29:08,823 --> 02:29:12,493 people willing to do so. 1573 02:29:12,493 --> 02:29:17,365 >> madam city attorney, last meeting, didn't we all ready vote to approve the funds? 1574 02:29:17,365 --> 02:29:21,200 >> there was an approval to authorize this, but the amount had not been set. 1575 02:29:21,135 --> 02:29:21,402 >> okay. 1576 02:29:21,402 --> 02:29:34,949 >> without a maximum amount, then there's, you know, we need that direction today to have the maximum amount, but also commission meeting there was approval for authorizing the reimbursement, but the maximum had not been set. 1577 02:29:34,949 --> 02:29:37,850 >> my understanding is that we had set the dollar amount. 1578 02:29:37,785 --> 02:29:37,985 >> no. 1579 02:29:37,985 --> 02:29:47,128 It was subject to the actors playhouse providing the additional quotes and the commission setting what the amount of what the reimbursement would be. 1580 02:29:47,128 --> 02:29:48,620 >> I disagree with you. 1581 02:29:48,129 --> 02:30:07,682 I think the motion was because I believe either I made the motion or you made the motion and I seconded it, was to approve no more than 41,900, but we were asking them to come back with three offers or proposals for the commission to give the 1582 02:30:07,682 --> 02:30:08,583 final approval. 1583 02:30:08,583 --> 02:30:15,957 >> so I'm happy to go back and review the triple, but my recollection is that it was not specified it would be up to that amount. 1584 02:30:15,957 --> 02:30:20,795 Rather come back and the commission would come back and set the final amount. 1585 02:30:20,795 --> 02:30:23,300 I'm happy to go back. 1586 02:30:23,300 --> 02:30:24,999 >> that's my not recollection either. 1587 02:30:24,999 --> 02:30:26,300 >> mayor: we have a motion and a second. 1588 02:30:26,300 --> 02:30:30,471 Do you want to keep moving forward, madam vice-mayor, for a vote? 1589 02:30:30,471 --> 02:30:32,874 >> yeah, might as well get the vote done. 1590 02:30:32,874 --> 02:30:41,115 >> to your motion, appreciate the creativity, but the prior commission went down that road once with burger bob's. 1591 02:30:41,115 --> 02:30:45,720 Much the mayor agreed that his company would find a way to get it done cheaper. 1592 02:30:45,720 --> 02:31:02,503 Burger bob's never got done, so we cannot task individual members of the commission with trying to raise money for the project when this is an ada issue, which the city ultimately could be liable for a ada lawsuit on any issues at the neater 1593 02:31:02,503 --> 02:31:05,439 because it is our property. 1594 02:31:05,439 --> 02:31:26,928 In my opinion, we are putting money into a city asset to improve that city asset, whether it's for actors playhouse who is running it or the miami harmonic band that comes in the future, this is something that will be a long-term investment 1595 02:31:26,928 --> 02:31:31,320 on our asset as a city to ensure that will are no ada issues. 1596 02:31:31,320 --> 02:31:33,901 Last time we heard about there's a lift and the lift is perfect. 1597 02:31:33,901 --> 02:31:36,437 The lift is not, it's far from perfect. 1598 02:31:36,437 --> 02:31:48,150 In fact, there was a gentleman who was on the lift while I was there and he was on a walker, and it was difficult for him to get the walker turned with enough space to get to the second floor landing. 1599 02:31:48,150 --> 02:31:59,930 There's definitely no space for an electric wheelchair f they come in one, they have to get off and -- >> may I respond. 1600 02:31:59,260 --> 02:32:01,462 >> mayor: can I just add something, please? 1601 02:32:01,462 --> 02:32:01,596 Mr. 1602 02:32:01,596 --> 02:32:04,599 Clerk, will you do me a favor, please? 1603 02:32:04,599 --> 02:32:04,932 >> yes, sir. 1604 02:32:04,932 --> 02:32:06,868 >> mayor: it doesn't have to be for today. 1605 02:32:06,868 --> 02:32:13,941 Fof the next commission meeting ladies and gentlemen you provide me a transcript in regard to my comment in regards to bugger bob's. 1606 02:32:13,941 --> 02:32:18,212 There's a litany of things that happened at burger bob's that resulted. 1607 02:32:18,212 --> 02:32:34,950 And also, please put together a memo, you can have staff through the manager put something simple together, explaining what happened when we started the demolition process and how zeta can remind everyone here that once we commenced the demolition 1608 02:32:34,528 --> 02:32:45,600 process and exposed the interior guts of the project, we found massive, mastiff structural issues that you could not see unless you're clark kent and you have x-ray vision. 1609 02:32:45,239 --> 02:32:58,520 I think it resulted in hundreds of thousands of dollars of additional costs that nobody could have foreseen unless they were able to see f could you do me a favor, I would love to have that additional information, circulated to the commission 1610 02:32:58,520 --> 02:33:01,889 to make sure we're speaking correctly on those matters. 1611 02:33:01,889 --> 02:33:02,890 >> mr. 1612 02:33:02,890 --> 02:33:11,265 Manager, I don't need you to spend staff time preparing that information. 1613 02:33:11,265 --> 02:33:17,400 [overlapping speakers] >> you were finished with your comment. 1614 02:33:17,138 --> 02:33:27,480 The comment by burger bob's, the prices pitched to you in front of staff was way too high and above the market, so your company was going to take care of it. 1615 02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:33,554 Now you're saying there was issues with the demolition, x, y, or z, that's not the question at hand here. 1616 02:33:33,554 --> 02:33:45,990 There was a commitment from a member of this commission to their former colleagues that they were going to take care of the renovation of burger bob's and that never happened. 1617 02:33:45,990 --> 02:33:47,340 >> mayor: may I respond? 1618 02:33:47,340 --> 02:33:47,340 >> yes. 1619 02:33:47,301 --> 02:33:59,480 >> mayor: first off, it is illegal and against the charter as the city attorney will tell you for my company to do anything here in the city in regards to public dollars, so there's no way I would have said that on the record. 1620 02:33:59,480 --> 02:34:07,488 I don't have a contract with the city, I've done anything with the city when it talk about public dollars so that's not possible. 1621 02:34:07,488 --> 02:34:07,621 Mr. 1622 02:34:07,621 --> 02:34:08,522 Clerk, number one. 1623 02:34:08,522 --> 02:34:13,940 Number two, the issue with, I'm not blaming it on demolition. 1624 02:34:13,940 --> 02:34:27,608 What I'm stating is very clearly, that once you opened up the walls of the build through the demolition process, you encounter, this is why the previous city manager brought back to the commission all of the things that were found in regards 1625 02:34:27,608 --> 02:34:34,281 to structural integrity of the building what I'm asking the clerk, don't want to go lou the manager, fine. 1626 02:34:34,281 --> 02:34:37,510 I can request through the manager that this get requested. 1627 02:34:37,510 --> 02:34:51,132 I would like the clerk to find the information, the transcript, and I would ask for the manager through his staff to provide a simple memo, half page, one page to address the comments I made on the commission that my company was supposedly going 1628 02:34:51,132 --> 02:34:52,700 to take care of this. 1629 02:34:52,700 --> 02:34:54,350 That doesn't work that way. 1630 02:34:54,350 --> 02:34:55,669 We can get to the bottom of it. 1631 02:34:55,669 --> 02:35:02,900 It's very simple, it's not a big issue, but at the end of the day, burger bob's will be completed. 1632 02:35:02,410 --> 02:35:15,589 I also in the budgeting process 25,000, 500,000, I can't remember the exact number, from land acquisition into burger bob's to ensure we could make up from the delta. 1633 02:35:15,589 --> 02:35:25,900 I wasn'tdone in regards to my point, but I'm going to reserve my comments with my opinion in regards to this until after the vote because we don't have the votes. 1634 02:35:25,900 --> 02:35:35,309 I had the pleasure of sitting down with this nice lady for about 45 minutes and with staff, and we had a very good conversation, a very candid conversation. 1635 02:35:35,309 --> 02:35:42,416 If you would like to have a vote, or madam vice-mayor -- >> I do need to respond. 1636 02:35:42,416 --> 02:35:59,834 Commissioner fernandez, I'm certainly glad that we have other tenants in the audience here and I'm certain that they're very glad to hare your hear your comments about the city's willingness to pay for ada remediation. 1637 02:35:59,834 --> 02:36:12,780 There may be very good reasons to modify terms in leases and if they're going to have items such as this, they should be negotiated as modifications of the least. 1638 02:36:12,780 --> 02:36:26,393 I'm familiar with titles in the state of florida because I have brought them against venders within parks and other facilities owned by municipalities and/or the state itself, okay. 1639 02:36:26,393 --> 02:36:39,540 That being said, we have a lease, okay, and the lease requires us to comply with its ternls, for the good and transparency of our residents. 1640 02:36:39,540 --> 02:36:49,416 There's ways to get things done other than having a reimbursement on an item based on a bid. 1641 02:36:49,416 --> 02:37:05,132 I shared with many and people and I didn't realize I had gold many my garage in the way of four sheets of plywood because the way the bids were coming in, it went from absurd to ridiculous in the way of the pricing on it. 1642 02:37:05,132 --> 02:37:24,840 With that being said, happy to approve this as being a loan to the facility, and we can get the supporters, reach out to supporters to help reimburse instead of them having to pie pay back the loan itself. 1643 02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:25,520 We can work out reasonable terms. 1644 02:37:25,486 --> 02:37:39,990 For the good of our residents, we should not be deviating from the terms of our lease that our city attorney's office works hard to negotiate in order to preserve the assets of our city because it's not just our tenant we're talking about, it's 1645 02:37:39,733 --> 02:37:42,937 every single tenant in our city that we rent to. 1646 02:37:42,937 --> 02:37:56,584 We've been criticized in the past for mismanaging facilities in the city, okay, because we don't stick to the terms of lease, or we don't enforce the terms of the lease. 1647 02:37:56,584 --> 02:38:08,996 It's time that we utilize the proper procedures and don't deviate for one and now we'll have to deviate for the rest, that's why I made the motion. 1648 02:38:08,996 --> 02:38:09,964 >> I have a question. 1649 02:38:09,964 --> 02:38:16,700 Do we still have any doubts or questioning regard being 1650 02:38:16,700 --> 02:38:17,710 do we still have any doubts or questioning regard regarding the pricing? 1651 02:38:17,504 --> 02:38:22,977 I know that was one of the concerns from a previous commission meeting? 1652 02:38:22,977 --> 02:38:27,140 >> mayor: do you want me to respond or are you commissioner? 1653 02:38:27,140 --> 02:38:27,810 >> you can respond. 1654 02:38:27,648 --> 02:38:30,351 >> mayor: I do at the end of the day, I have doubts. 1655 02:38:30,351 --> 02:38:33,870 I haven't been afforded the actual pricing. 1656 02:38:33,487 --> 02:38:35,556 I haven't looked at the unit quantity. 1657 02:38:35,556 --> 02:38:39,260 I find it impossible to believe that price is that much. 1658 02:38:39,260 --> 02:38:45,320 Also, you're talking about a ramp, you're talking about an existing building that is ada compliant. 1659 02:38:45,165 --> 02:38:46,533 It's not out-of-compliance. 1660 02:38:46,533 --> 02:38:51,105 You're in compliance right now, so I don't want to rush into nothing. 1661 02:38:51,105 --> 02:38:53,841 At the end of the day, I have a lot of questions. 1662 02:38:53,841 --> 02:39:01,150 Have you read the contract, the contract for -- did you read the contract? 1663 02:39:01,150 --> 02:39:05,619 >> there was -- >> mayor: did you read the contract between the city -- >> no, I haven't. 1664 02:39:05,619 --> 02:39:16,630 >> mayor: did you also read the ada report that was given to the city that was done by the city on july 2019? 1665 02:39:16,630 --> 02:39:16,630 >> no. 1666 02:39:16,297 --> 02:39:19,833 >> mayor: do you know the miracle theater is in the report? 1667 02:39:19,833 --> 02:39:23,300 >> where are these questions referring to? 1668 02:39:23,137 --> 02:39:27,740 >> mayor: I'm asking because these are all -- I'm speaking into the record. 1669 02:39:27,141 --> 02:39:32,579 I think it's important that a lot of residents and business owners don't know because they don't have access to these documents. 1670 02:39:32,579 --> 02:39:36,583 I didn't have access to this document, the ada, I had to request it. 1671 02:39:36,583 --> 02:39:41,155 Much for example, the miracle theater chest not included in the ada review. 1672 02:39:41,155 --> 02:39:42,890 I've reviewed the entire document. 1673 02:39:42,456 --> 02:39:48,762 If you look at, it all of the facilities reviewed by the ada consultant, right here. 1674 02:39:48,762 --> 02:39:51,432 To me, I think there's a lot of unanswered questions. 1675 02:39:51,432 --> 02:40:02,900 I don't want to get into that fact. 1676 02:40:02,209 --> 02:40:06,580 We need to understand moving forward what we can do to avoid scenarios. 1677 02:40:06,580 --> 02:40:06,780 >> mr. 1678 02:40:06,780 --> 02:40:12,753 Mayor, am I aloud to speak at this point or wait for the vote? 1679 02:40:12,753 --> 02:40:16,900 >> mayor: we do things differently but out of respect for you, you can speak. 1680 02:40:16,390 --> 02:40:17,324 >> thank you very much. 1681 02:40:17,324 --> 02:40:23,970 I appreciate the comments from everybody and the ideas from everybody, they're very creative. 1682 02:40:23,163 --> 02:40:39,378 I must remind everybody that 28 years ago we created a partnership with the city of coral gables, the city officials at that time took a big risk not knowing basically much about our organization, except for the reputation we've established, 1683 02:40:39,446 --> 02:40:47,870 which is quality, integrity, and follow through in the seven year of our existence as a prosks nal amortization at that time. 1684 02:40:47,621 --> 02:41:06,106 We fill a need when the city's downtown was dying and we created a need by creating foot traffic by building the theet near a three-stage performing arts center over seven years, 10 million-dollar project, which we funded and implemented over 1685 02:41:06,106 --> 02:41:07,700 that time. 1686 02:41:07,700 --> 02:41:18,252 Many of you may be residents of the city, but may not be known what an amazing private, public partnership that was to achieve that and we were very honored and pleased to have this relationship with you. 1687 02:41:18,252 --> 02:41:38,472 So 28 years ago when this contract was made, it was very important for the city to cover every aspect of the integrity of our organ following through with projects, and of course, ada compliance was apart of t over the years, we've continually 1688 02:41:38,472 --> 02:41:42,576 rebuilt, redone, and upgraded our equipment, even during covid. 1689 02:41:42,576 --> 02:41:52,719 We raised funds and grants to replace all of the toilets, the touch toilets and the sinks throughout the whole building and the back stage of the dressing rooms and everything. 1690 02:41:52,719 --> 02:42:05,149 We are constantly upgrading our hearing impaired equipment and we're now redoing our website to be ada complaint. 1691 02:42:05,149 --> 02:42:18,662 This particular situation has been under our radar for the last year n fact, in 1998, when we did the second phase of the building, which was the second floor and the balcony, we explored the option to put a ramp and we chose to do a lift because 1692 02:42:18,662 --> 02:42:24,902 the space is very small and we wanted to have an ambient lobby and experience up there. 1693 02:42:24,902 --> 02:42:27,370 It was a great opportunity at that time. 1694 02:42:27,370 --> 02:42:33,744 Now our audience is aging out and we have people coming in with walkers, a lot of walkers in matinees. 1695 02:42:33,744 --> 02:42:37,681 It's very difficult to get them up a squeaky lift. 1696 02:42:37,681 --> 02:42:46,924 We have young people coming with special needs that can't absolutely get into the lift, that it's a problem and other individuals and adults as well. 1697 02:42:46,924 --> 02:42:53,964 I remember at the last commission meeting, vice-mayor, you made a very good point about we should have a ramp to go up the steps. 1698 02:42:53,964 --> 02:43:11,715 We do actually, but in order to get up the steps with a small space, we have to put an individual in a wheelchair inside the elevator, hold the elevator door open so the incline can ramp them up the lift and that won't even cover handling the 1699 02:43:11,715 --> 02:43:16,954 major heavy equipment or large equipment. 1700 02:43:16,954 --> 02:43:20,524 We have a window of time which is very unusually for the organization. 1701 02:43:20,524 --> 02:43:35,639 You know we're 24/7 with our own production and rentals to groups and our camps, and this is a unique time when the city is installing a system, so our theater organization has been asked to close down for four months. 1702 02:43:35,639 --> 02:43:46,350 That's actually a very costly proposition for us. 1703 02:43:46,350 --> 02:44:01,765 We're grateful to get the air conditioning first, and we've accepted that, but losing oo $150,000 of guaranteed income of the timeframe we're closing down, but that makes the timeliness of this very critical because there's no other time we'll 1704 02:44:01,765 --> 02:44:03,967 be closed down to build this ramp. 1705 02:44:03,967 --> 02:44:08,710 It isn't just a ramp and it's not just a little bit of plywood. 1706 02:44:08,372 --> 02:44:14,811 There's very little plywood because I've checked with our contractors and we have three bids, two are very comparable. 1707 02:44:14,811 --> 02:44:24,540 The cost of the railings alone in today's market is almost $12,000. 1708 02:44:24,540 --> 02:44:32,950 You have demolition, you have building, you have all kind of aspects of what you have to do, drywall, painting. 1709 02:44:32,262 --> 02:44:40,804 Had the costs been comparable, except for one bid which was very high, so you see the cost is not out-of-line for the work. 1710 02:44:40,804 --> 02:44:53,830 We really investigated that and I might tell you it was difficult to get extra bids because a lot of people did not want to get involved with bidding because they work with the city fairly enough, we understood that. 1711 02:44:53,216 --> 02:45:03,126 We're happy we were able to show the comparison of a price being equal so that you didn't think it was too high. 1712 02:45:03,126 --> 02:45:14,838 We're very good negotiating with the city, we're also very good at getting in-kind, and we've tried in many ways to see where support can come from, but the timeliness of this is critical to get done. 1713 02:45:14,838 --> 02:45:16,840 One more thing I would like to add. 1714 02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:33,740 Going over this process for the last year, we've also investigated the fact of a larger lift, which we didn't bring up brrr, but I'd like to bring to your attention that the larger lift would cost the same amount of money with construction and 1715 02:45:33,740 --> 02:45:57,681 the cost of the lift as it would to build a ramp that allows more comfort to people disabled, more independence, without having to go up a squeeze 1716 02:45:57,681 --> 02:45:58,648 independence, without having to go up a squee squeaky lift. 1717 02:45:58,648 --> 02:46:03,453 People would have to squeeze in on the size and the cost of it would equal the same. 1718 02:46:03,453 --> 02:46:07,157 The lift alone would be over $20,000 for the larger lift. 1719 02:46:07,157 --> 02:46:21,138 We've been putting in a lot of time into this and we brought it to your attention now because of the income that we could use the support with from the city and your building, and the fact that it will make a big difference in the attitude of 1720 02:46:21,138 --> 02:46:29,579 people coming to the theater and there's people who have not come for a long time because they're not comfortable. 1721 02:46:29,579 --> 02:46:32,382 I cannot get to the balcony theater. 1722 02:46:32,382 --> 02:46:38,121 We do at least two productions a year in the main stage in the upstairs balcony theater. 1723 02:46:38,121 --> 02:46:56,573 So I can answer any more questions you'd lying about the work and research our team has done in this, but the energy has been magnificent and a lot, and we we appreciate the opportunity to serve the community at the highest level. 1724 02:46:56,573 --> 02:47:08,452 >> mayor: thank you very much. 1725 02:47:08,452 --> 02:47:40,830 [speaker off mic] [speaker off mic] >> mayor: why don't we try to adhere if possible so we can get everything on the record and not have conversations from the back of the ro room it's out there, let's address the issue. 1726 02:47:40,217 --> 02:47:48,725 >> the transcript mentioned when we were getting to the motion, I believe it was commissioner fernandez's amendment. 1727 02:47:48,725 --> 02:47:52,496 My amendment would be for the three option offers to come back. 1728 02:47:52,496 --> 02:47:57,934 Commissioner menendez said I'm fine with that, and then later on, we said we have a motion and a second. 1729 02:47:57,934 --> 02:48:08,712 Commissioner menendez said let's vote, then I said I'm sorry, so you said you said have it come back because I heard that but I don't know if it was apart of the motion. 1730 02:48:08,712 --> 02:48:14,918 Mayor lago says it's moving forward with the lowest vote and get two additional prices. 1731 02:48:14,918 --> 02:48:21,240 Commissioner fernandez said bring it back to the commission, so once they have the lowest, the amount would be approved. 1732 02:48:21,240 --> 02:48:27,130 The way I interpreted that is it has to come back to the commission to approve the amount. 1733 02:48:27,130 --> 02:48:40,577 Otherwise, if it was getting two additional quotes and going with the lowest, staff wouldn't have to come back, but it's up to you today to decide. 1734 02:48:40,577 --> 02:48:44,147 >> mayor: I think we're caught on minutia. 1735 02:48:44,147 --> 02:48:46,683 Iif the votes are there, it's going to be approved. 1736 02:48:46,683 --> 02:48:51,210 I don't think we need to debate it back and forth whether it's an issue or not. 1737 02:48:51,210 --> 02:48:52,455 I don't see it that way. 1738 02:48:52,455 --> 02:48:55,580 If it's on the minutes, it's on the minutes. 1739 02:48:55,580 --> 02:49:00,664 Do we have the minutes, like the actual transcript? 1740 02:49:00,664 --> 02:49:02,866 >> that was the transcript I was reading through. 1741 02:49:02,866 --> 02:49:22,850 >> so basically, my motion that had the 41-9 was amended only one way, which was commissioner fernandez says bring back three quotes, so that portion of 41-9 was not touched, so it remains in the legislation. 1742 02:49:22,850 --> 02:49:26,523 >> it's up to the commission how you want to move forward what you'd like to do. 1743 02:49:26,523 --> 02:49:27,891 >> that's not my question. 1744 02:49:27,891 --> 02:49:50,880 >> what did we approve -- I want clarification because we have folks that are here and folks that are watching via tv and cable what we approved was the original legislation as written, as submitted, which was up to -- before we voted was commissioner 1745 02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:58,588 fernandez saying I would like to see three quotes because at no point did I change the language on 41-9. 1746 02:49:58,588 --> 02:50:06,730 Others can comment about it, but it was my motion and I was the sponsor. 1747 02:50:06,730 --> 02:50:11,670 >> and I seconded it main I ask a quick question? 1748 02:50:11,401 --> 02:50:14,400 Madam city attorney, you say you have a difference of opinion. 1749 02:50:14,137 --> 02:50:23,513 Do you stick with that or are we -- do you stick with that difference of opinion or are you moving forward with commissioner menendez's recollection? 1750 02:50:23,513 --> 02:50:27,500 >> so there was a change to the resolution as drafted, as presented. 1751 02:50:27,183 --> 02:50:30,387 There was a change here that was done via amendment. 1752 02:50:30,387 --> 02:50:40,330 Once that happens, it's my office's responsibility to draft the resolution and the resolution, as I revised it, was so that the proposals would come back. 1753 02:50:40,330 --> 02:50:47,270 The purpose is to set the amount because for some reason or another, the commission may have decided to go with a different amount. 1754 02:50:47,270 --> 02:51:03,720 Sometimes proposals are not exactly apples and oranges, and there was multiple times when commissioner fernandez said bring it back, for the offers to come back, and so the resolution that I approved was so that there were subject to the actors 1755 02:51:03,720 --> 02:51:12,562 playhouse obtaining two additional quotes and coming back to the commission for the commission to set the maximum amount, so that's why we're here today and that was the resolution that was approved. 1756 02:51:12,562 --> 02:51:15,265 >> and though t that wasn't the intent of what I said. 1757 02:51:15,265 --> 02:51:18,301 In about fact, commissioner menendez is correct. 1758 02:51:18,301 --> 02:51:20,537 We voted on the 41-9. 1759 02:51:20,537 --> 02:51:32,182 The only reason I wanted those three coming back so that if there was a change in the number, then we would change it, but vice-mayor anderson and mayor lago had said they thought the cost was too high. 1760 02:51:32,182 --> 02:51:39,556 I w wanted to make sure on the record we got those three proposals and they were apart of the public record. 1761 02:51:39,556 --> 02:51:41,925 In my opinion, we voted on this last time. 1762 02:51:41,925 --> 02:51:53,837 It was approved, unless there was a change in the proposals that were proposed, there's no reason for this item to come back for a second vote. 1763 02:51:53,837 --> 02:51:55,572 >> it says to bring back to the commission. 1764 02:51:55,572 --> 02:52:08,510 >> as a presentation, unless there was a change in the actual dollar figure, the intent of my second to his motion was to approach the 41 dwch 9 as it was. 1765 02:52:08,151 --> 02:52:10,820 >> I think we can have that clarification done here. 1766 02:52:10,820 --> 02:52:13,323 It's something that can be done today. 1767 02:52:13,323 --> 02:52:24,734 >> mayor: moving forward, obviously, there's a little bit of confusion on the motion, the verbiage, what was approved and what was not. 1768 02:52:24,734 --> 02:52:29,672 At the end of the day, we can clarify it here with a vote. 1769 02:52:29,672 --> 02:52:34,277 Madam city attorney's, what happens to the vice-mayor's ploation? 1770 02:52:34,277 --> 02:52:36,790 >> there's been a motion and a second. 1771 02:52:36,479 --> 02:52:38,470 >> mayor: can we take a vote? 1772 02:52:38,470 --> 02:52:55,665 >> wouldn't that be to reconsider the last vote since we all ready approved the 412-9 -- >> at this point, her motion was to ask to convert it, so it's a motion to -- [overlapping speakers] it's not a motion to reconsider. 1773 02:52:55,665 --> 02:52:57,367 She's making a motion to amend it. 1774 02:52:57,367 --> 02:53:07,143 It's really a motion to amend the prior resolution, and frankly, the rlts has drafted and signed and approved, says that the commission has to set a maximum amount. 1775 02:53:07,143 --> 02:53:14,484 >> but that's not what the will of the commission was, at lease my will and the will of the sponsor was at the time. 1776 02:53:14,484 --> 02:53:16,286 That's the problem with interpretation. 1777 02:53:16,286 --> 02:53:27,960 >> I understand, but there was a lot of discussion that happened very quickly that day and that's what I interpreted came of that was that resolution, that that I revised to reflect that intention. 1778 02:53:27,630 --> 02:53:35,755 We are here today, you all can decide how you want to move forward. 1779 02:53:35,755 --> 02:53:52,856 >> mayor: moving forward, what I recommend, we try to do things through the mayor, that we have a real, you know, we ensure that the quality -- quality on all fronts. 1780 02:53:52,856 --> 02:53:52,989 Mr. 1781 02:53:52,989 --> 02:53:57,961 Clerk, we have a motion and a second. 1782 02:53:57,961 --> 02:53:59,896 >> okay. 1783 02:53:59,896 --> 02:54:21,651 [roll called] >> because as barbara stein explained, there's a window of opportunity with the ac system being installed this summer, we can't go on a hail mary that funds will be raised, so I vote no. 1784 02:54:21,651 --> 02:54:22,552 >> vice-mayor anderson. 1785 02:54:22,552 --> 02:54:27,230 >> because it will not display the process to convert it to a loan, yes. 1786 02:54:27,156 --> 02:54:29,359 >> mayor lago. 1787 02:54:29,359 --> 02:54:33,396 >> mayor: in agreeance with the vice-mayor's comments, it's a loan at the end of the day. 1788 02:54:33,396 --> 02:54:39,680 It can be addressed immediately and addressed later as assistance for our friend here, so I'm yes. 1789 02:54:39,302 --> 02:54:40,937 Now that failed. 1790 02:54:40,937 --> 02:54:51,114 Moving on, I would like to speak -- I would like to speak to zeta if possible. 1791 02:54:51,114 --> 02:54:54,170 Are you asking the manager if we can come up? 1792 02:54:54,170 --> 02:55:01,824 >> hold on, but we've all ready approved -- there was a motion to amend what was all ready approved last time. 1793 02:55:01,824 --> 02:55:04,594 Now you're bringing it up for reconsideration. 1794 02:55:04,594 --> 02:55:07,130 >> mayor: commissioner, I'm not bringing up anything. 1795 02:55:07,130 --> 02:55:08,598 I can have a conversation. 1796 02:55:08,598 --> 02:55:11,668 I would appreciate it if you didn't interrupt it me. 1797 02:55:11,668 --> 02:55:13,603 So, zeta, I have a few questions for. 1798 02:55:13,603 --> 02:55:16,500 >> where can I help? 1799 02:55:16,500 --> 02:55:19,842 >> mayor: where are we going to get the funds for this if it's approved today? 1800 02:55:19,842 --> 02:55:21,778 Let's start somewhere else. 1801 02:55:21,778 --> 02:55:24,470 Madam city attorney; this approved moving forward? 1802 02:55:24,314 --> 02:55:25,348 Are we done? 1803 02:55:25,348 --> 02:55:29,152 If we don't take any action today, do we move forward? 1804 02:55:29,152 --> 02:55:37,930 >> we would need clarification because the transcript said, at some point I said once they have the lowest, it would come back to approve the amount, so I think we need approval. 1805 02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:48,710 The resolution we drafted for today, sponsored by commissioner menendez contemplated last time and says it's setting the maximum amount, which is why we do have a resolution on the agenda today. 1806 02:55:48,710 --> 02:55:50,907 >> mayor: I think we have to come to terms on that and move on. 1807 02:55:50,907 --> 02:55:53,843 Of the votes are here, this is just clarification. 1808 02:55:53,843 --> 02:55:59,816 My point is, zeta, first off, thank you for your hard work on this issue, I appreciate it. 1809 02:55:59,816 --> 02:56:01,784 We're moving forward. 1810 02:56:01,784 --> 02:56:04,821 Where would we get the money from? 1811 02:56:04,821 --> 02:56:08,124 What line item would we draw upon in the city's budget? 1812 02:56:08,124 --> 02:56:19,660 >> that, I would have to leave up to paula but I believe it's just coming out of general fund. 1813 02:56:22,505 --> 02:56:22,672 Paula? 1814 02:56:22,672 --> 02:56:24,507 >> mayor: thank you, paula. 1815 02:56:24,507 --> 02:56:27,410 >> an electric ramp to come up these stairs. 1816 02:56:27,410 --> 02:56:42,992 The discussion was that once the commission decided on a mechanism, either for reimbursement or to fund this particular item that the funds would come from, we have a ada project within our capital budget that has funds, which is intended to 1817 02:56:42,992 --> 02:56:47,864 be used for ada improvements in facilities, and so that's where that funding would come from. 1818 02:56:47,864 --> 02:56:54,303 >> mayor: so we have the funds, we? 1819 02:56:54,303 --> 02:56:54,570 >> yes. 1820 02:56:54,570 --> 02:56:56,500 >> mayor: we have no issues. 1821 02:56:56,172 --> 02:56:57,730 Two more things. 1822 02:56:57,730 --> 02:57:01,440 Number one, is the building currently ada compliant, yes or no? 1823 02:57:01,177 --> 02:57:08,951 >> well, it is my understanding, sir, that -- >> mayor: she told me yesterday that it is ada compliant? 1824 02:57:08,951 --> 02:57:09,118 ? 1825 02:57:09,118 --> 02:57:14,570 >> it is my understand being that the lift as it is right now is complaint. 1826 02:57:14,570 --> 02:57:14,570 >> mayor: fine. 1827 02:57:14,490 --> 02:57:30,730 Moving on from there, I'm a believer and I ask for your guidance that this sets a dangerous precedent in regards to our fiduciary responsibilities in the city because as a owner of commercial real estate, when you have a contract with a tenant, 1828 02:57:30,139 --> 02:57:33,609 you have to stick to that contract. 1829 02:57:33,609 --> 02:57:53,290 If you start making, you know, opportunities for your tenants to wiggle their way out of certain responsibilities, it only -- this is the law. 1830 02:57:53,262 --> 02:58:08,678 You sign the contract, you have to abide by the contract and the contract says within the envelope of the building, the city of coral gables is responsible -- execution me, te tenant is responsible for what is being responsible. 1831 02:58:08,678 --> 02:58:11,147 As I read the contract, that's my understanding. 1832 02:58:11,147 --> 02:58:13,382 Am I wrong or am I correct? 1833 02:58:13,382 --> 02:58:16,686 >> the city attorney and I have both read the contract. 1834 02:58:16,686 --> 02:58:19,322 The language is actually in the commission memo. 1835 02:58:19,322 --> 02:58:28,564 It does make the tenant responsible for ada compliance in the building. 1836 02:58:28,564 --> 02:58:31,234 >> mayor: I have no further questions. 1837 02:58:31,234 --> 02:58:31,534 >> I do. 1838 02:58:31,534 --> 02:58:32,502 I'm saying for me. 1839 02:58:32,502 --> 02:58:34,360 >> mayor: I know you do. 1840 02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:41,577 >> city attorney, you and I spoke and it was clear, and it's in the resolution. 1841 02:58:41,577 --> 02:59:03,666 The city commission as a body has the legal authority, if it chooses to, to allocate funds for a municipal purpose, which obviously, providing ada ramps and railings, we have the legal authority, whether we vote yes or no, but the legal authority 1842 02:59:03,666 --> 02:59:04,660 exist? 1843 02:59:04,660 --> 02:59:05,468 >> correct. 1844 02:59:05,468 --> 02:59:08,400 The proposed resolution is not illegal. 1845 02:59:08,304 --> 02:59:10,600 You can make the determination and do this. 1846 02:59:10,139 --> 02:59:32,628 >> a good example or parallel universe is when folks with or projects come before us, that they want additional height or density, changes to their project, and everybody goes you're violating our zoning code, but we as the body has the authority 1847 02:59:32,628 --> 02:59:42,805 to make changes, variances, we have as a body the legal authority to go and take additional steps, and that's what we have here. 1848 02:59:42,805 --> 03:00:01,457 We have an agreement, but we have the legal authority to tweak it and I find it offensive for anyone, especially with barbara stein here to use the phase wiggle out of the responsibilities because what barbara stein and her team is doing is 1849 03:00:01,457 --> 03:00:03,459 not wiggling out of any responsibility. 1850 03:00:03,459 --> 03:00:04,927 We are for politics over people. 1851 03:00:04,927 --> 03:00:16,720 There are children, there are seniors that need to get there and feel like h human beings, and we're letting politics dictate the day and I'm not going to allow it. 1852 03:00:16,539 --> 03:00:18,741 I'm moving forward and I know my position. 1853 03:00:18,741 --> 03:00:28,618 It's people over politics and I apologize to barbara and your team to have to go through the ringer for something that is so common sense and so log 1854 03:00:28,618 --> 03:00:34,390 ringer for something that is so common sense and so lo so log 1855 03:00:34,390 --> 03:00:38,694 common sense and so lo so logso logical for people in need and I apologize for this circus. 1856 03:00:38,694 --> 03:00:54,210 >> it's a double standard to put this up here and start fighting over $42,900 for miracle theater when this commission unanimously voted on an insurance waiver for one of our largest contracts in this city. 1857 03:00:54,210 --> 03:00:56,780 So you can't have it both ways. 1858 03:00:56,512 --> 03:01:09,992 I'm against offering waivers, but I'm okay with giving waivers to larger contracts, which could potentially have put the city in a major risk had we been hit by a hurricane. 1859 03:01:09,992 --> 03:01:13,290 So we can't are have a double standard here. 1860 03:01:13,290 --> 03:01:18,401 I'm going to make a motion to reaffirm the motion. 1861 03:01:18,401 --> 03:01:19,402 >> through the mayor. 1862 03:01:19,402 --> 03:01:22,710 >> mayor: I think you need to step back on the comments that were made. 1863 03:01:22,538 --> 03:01:28,945 I appreciate the enthusiasm, and barbara and I had a great conversation yesterday. 1864 03:01:28,945 --> 03:01:39,288 We talked a lot about theater and her engagement in the city, what she's done in this community, and it was nice to have you here and sit down with you for over 45 minutes. 1865 03:01:39,288 --> 03:01:39,755 >> thank you. 1866 03:01:39,755 --> 03:01:51,968 >> mayor: while I appreciate the comments -- of the 1867 03:01:51,968 --> 03:01:54,700 >> mayor: while I appreciate the comments -- of th of the biltmore. 1868 03:01:54,700 --> 03:01:58,700 As zeta can tell you, the conversation was a long consideration. 1869 03:01:58,207 --> 03:02:01,277 Boards were activated. 1870 03:02:01,277 --> 03:02:09,510 You know, specialists in insurance were activated and we're very clear that the city would not be compromised as owners of the biltmore. 1871 03:02:09,510 --> 03:02:11,721 Am I correct or am I wrong? 1872 03:02:11,721 --> 03:02:13,956 >> mayor, I don't understand the question, I'm sorry. 1873 03:02:13,956 --> 03:02:23,766 >> mayor: the question is in regards to what we did about the insurance discussion about the built moor because that's what commissioner fernandez is bringing up. 1874 03:02:23,766 --> 03:02:34,343 I want people to understand because it's very hyperbolic about the conversations that we're potentially putting the biltmore in jeopardy and I don't want people to think that. 1875 03:02:34,343 --> 03:02:41,250 I would like you to explain what we did as a commission and voted unanimously in regards to the insurance for the biltmore. 1876 03:02:41,250 --> 03:02:41,917 >> okay. 1877 03:02:41,917 --> 03:02:56,966 Well, I think that I'm not actually the right person -- >> mayor: it could be racquel. 1878 03:02:56,966 --> 03:02:58,167 >> thank you. 1879 03:02:58,167 --> 03:03:10,513 There's been two amendments and I think the one that commissioner fernandez is referring to is two years ago, where we allowed the biltmore to obtain less property insurance in the event of a hurricane just because the property market was so 1880 03:03:10,513 --> 03:03:23,590 tough and it would have resulted of millions of dollars in increases in premiums, and there wasn't enough volume out there for the biltmore to purchase the insurance that was required under the lease, so what we did is we amended. 1881 03:03:23,159 --> 03:03:26,462 It had to be an ordinance and it came before the city commission. 1882 03:03:26,462 --> 03:03:40,760 The least was amended for that year to allow them to have reduced property insurance and for security for the city, we made them get a 10 million-dollar letter of credit so in the event it was hit by a storm and they were unable to cover the 1883 03:03:40,276 --> 03:03:46,480 deductible or the amount of the damage, we would be able to draw on the 10 million-dollar letter of credit. 1884 03:03:46,480 --> 03:03:46,882 >> mayor: I appreciate that. 1885 03:03:46,882 --> 03:03:51,387 On that point, what happened after that when the renewal came for the ?ins. 1886 03:03:51,387 --> 03:03:53,189 >> this year was much better. 1887 03:03:53,189 --> 03:03:54,623 So that happened last year. 1888 03:03:54,623 --> 03:03:59,462 So this year in 2024, they renew in march of 2024. 1889 03:03:59,462 --> 03:04:01,970 The property market significantly is better. 1890 03:04:01,330 --> 03:04:07,503 They were able to obtain the full 50 million that the lease currently requires so they are in compliance with the lease. 1891 03:04:07,503 --> 03:04:10,306 That was only a one-year amendment. 1892 03:04:10,306 --> 03:04:17,546 >> mayor: that happened across the board, both in the private and public sector, and I appreciate you offering a little clarity on that front. 1893 03:04:17,546 --> 03:04:23,850 In regards to commissioner menendez's comments about politicizing this, it's not politics. 1894 03:04:23,252 --> 03:04:27,389 This is just talking about financially what we're doing here in the city. 1895 03:04:27,389 --> 03:04:36,465 I had the same opposition when we talked about the country club cafe. 1896 03:04:36,465 --> 03:04:36,899 Very clear. 1897 03:04:36,899 --> 03:04:42,972 We were talking about running the numbers and offering a rent of $5 per square foot. 1898 03:04:42,972 --> 03:04:44,206 I adamantly opposed that. 1899 03:04:44,206 --> 03:04:52,781 I liked the tenant allot, they were amazing, but I couldn't side with a tenant and the commission as a whole freed with me and we moved in a different direction. 1900 03:04:52,781 --> 03:05:00,550 I think we're doing pretty well with the tenant we have now and paying a significantly higher rent that was being proposed at that moment. 1901 03:05:00,550 --> 03:05:01,490 Again there's is not politics. 1902 03:05:01,490 --> 03:05:02,958 We can bring up issues. 1903 03:05:02,958 --> 03:05:15,504 I'm happy that you were able to bring us up-to-date with the built to show us where we stand because I don't want people to get scared about a jewel like the biltmore. 1904 03:05:15,504 --> 03:05:18,574 In my opinion, it's not a good look for the city. 1905 03:05:18,574 --> 03:05:20,900 Vice-mayor dj you want to say something? 1906 03:05:20,576 --> 03:05:34,230 >> no, to conflate this, people over politics is very sad that members of the commission would do such a thing because I did do a complete walk-through of the facility. 1907 03:05:34,230 --> 03:05:49,710 I identified a couple of other things that could be done, but when we're dealing with tenants we have to realize that we have to treat all equally within the confines of the terms of the lease. 1908 03:05:49,471 --> 03:05:49,705 Unfortunately, ms. 1909 03:05:49,705 --> 03:05:54,276 Stein and I didn't have a chance to speak before you first brought the thing. 1910 03:05:54,276 --> 03:06:00,820 I would have made other suggestions that could have possibly resulted in the same way if not better. 1911 03:06:00,583 --> 03:06:10,593 If you're going to set the example here for the rest of the tenants in our city that all they need to do is ask for rct because of the press 1912 03:06:10,593 --> 03:06:21,837 they need to do is ask for rct because of the pres precedent you've set, so I was trying to convert it into something more palatable, that it's not going to come back and haunt our taxpayers, our commission in the future. 1913 03:06:21,837 --> 03:06:26,750 Yes, a ramp is the best option and I'll give you a simple reason why. 1914 03:06:26,275 --> 03:06:39,888 Because when you're trying to empty out a theater and you have a row of individuals that might be coming in there that are all disabled, that are either in a power chair or a rolling chair, you're going to have to wait for the lift to come up 1915 03:06:39,888 --> 03:06:48,264 and down, and up and down, as opposed to being able to roll them out, so I concur that a ramp is the best choice. 1916 03:06:48,264 --> 03:07:00,442 How we do the semantics of providing either a reimbursement or a loan or raising the money for it so you don't have to pay the loan is all semantics, okay. 1917 03:07:00,442 --> 03:07:07,916 The purpose of doing that is so we have consistency between our leases and our tenants. 1918 03:07:07,916 --> 03:07:15,157 Very happy to help support and very, very happy to see that the theater is doing well. 1919 03:07:15,157 --> 03:07:19,495 Thank you for all your time and dedication to our city. 1920 03:07:19,495 --> 03:07:34,243 The efforts that you've made, the monies you have invested, you've invested a significant amount of money, I recognize that, but it's not about you and it's not about trying to distinguish anything. 1921 03:07:34,243 --> 03:07:40,616 It's about being uniformed among all of our tenants. 1922 03:07:40,616 --> 03:07:42,484 >> mayor: was with you yesterday, correct. 1923 03:07:42,484 --> 03:07:43,986 I looked at all of the resolutions. 1924 03:07:43,986 --> 03:07:53,950 I had the clerk provide us all of the red lights over the last few years whenever I've had to engage with miracle theater, anything that comes before us. 1925 03:07:53,429 --> 03:08:03,972 Extensions of leases, finding ways to be more flexible, providing the necessary flexibility that you needed to be able to run your business in regards to an extension of lease, even before it was required. 1926 03:08:03,972 --> 03:08:13,480 If you look at every single one of the votes, I have them all here going back even to 2015, I have it here. 1927 03:08:13,480 --> 03:08:19,488 I have voted unanimously for the miracle theater when I didn't have to. 1928 03:08:19,488 --> 03:08:21,790 This is not whether I support you or not. 1929 03:08:21,790 --> 03:08:35,137 I love what you're doing, I think it's great for the community, I just have to be very careful when we open a door that could potentially offer the same opportunity for our tenants and deviate from our contract, so I don't want you to get the 1930 03:08:35,137 --> 03:08:38,741 feeling that for some reason, like I said, there's an ax to grind. 1931 03:08:38,741 --> 03:08:42,711 There's no ax to grind, but thank you for being here. 1932 03:08:42,711 --> 03:08:44,790 Did you have something? 1933 03:08:44,246 --> 03:08:48,830 >> madam direct edge, I don't think the question was fully answered about the biltmore. 1934 03:08:48,450 --> 03:08:59,610 If the damage is, if we had been hit by a hurricane, the damages would have been $100 million, the city would have been on the hook for about $40 million, correct? 1935 03:08:59,610 --> 03:09:08,700 >> technically, the biltmore would have had to -- [overlapping speakers] >> if they didn't have the financial resources, I guess we could take legal action. 1936 03:09:08,370 --> 03:09:11,730 Ultimately, would have the city have been on the hook, probably. 1937 03:09:11,673 --> 03:09:12,107 >> thank you. 1938 03:09:12,107 --> 03:09:15,711 >> mayor: I want to explain something to explain something about insurance as a property owner. 1939 03:09:15,711 --> 03:09:17,579 You can tell us. 1940 03:09:17,579 --> 03:09:19,248 There wasn't capacity. 1941 03:09:19,248 --> 03:09:20,883 They couldn't get the insurance. 1942 03:09:20,883 --> 03:09:21,817 >> not last year. 1943 03:09:21,817 --> 03:09:24,219 >> mayor: but I want to put that on the record. 1944 03:09:24,219 --> 03:09:26,880 They couldn't get the insurance. 1945 03:09:26,388 --> 03:09:28,891 Could go to market, let's do the simple math. 1946 03:09:28,891 --> 03:09:32,294 I need to you get a hundred million dollar insurance company. 1947 03:09:32,294 --> 03:09:36,665 They came back with 10 examples, I can't get the insurance. 1948 03:09:36,665 --> 03:09:37,900 What do we do? 1949 03:09:37,900 --> 03:09:41,603 Do we go uninsured you need the insurance. 1950 03:09:41,603 --> 03:09:44,600 They went back, here we go again. 1951 03:09:44,106 --> 03:09:45,808 We can't get you the insurance. 1952 03:09:45,808 --> 03:09:47,420 They tried multiple times. 1953 03:09:47,420 --> 03:09:55,500 That's when we took that action and we said after this year, the property markets have gotten better, we have to holds you accountable. 1954 03:09:55,500 --> 03:10:01,290 We need you to bump back up to the regular amounts and they did that. 1955 03:10:01,290 --> 03:10:03,425 >> you did that and they tried, mr. 1956 03:10:03,425 --> 03:10:14,937 Prescot was a gentleman who said can we stay at the previous rates, but we came to an agreement that this is a city treasure, but it's disengine with 1957 03:10:14,937 --> 03:10:16,371 treasure, but it's disengine disingenuous we did them a favor. 1958 03:10:16,371 --> 03:10:22,770 I wanted it to come pro from you, not from me. 1959 03:10:22,377 --> 03:10:27,820 Did we have any opportunity for them to binds at a higher amount, yes or no? 1960 03:10:27,216 --> 03:10:31,190 >> for the amount requiressed under the lease was not sufficient capacity. 1961 03:10:31,190 --> 03:10:37,893 The city had to take a little bit less that year and we did 1962 03:10:37,893 --> 03:10:44,800 we did like a cost sharing in something similar to like the biltmore as well. 1963 03:10:44,800 --> 03:10:46,368 >> mayor: we have a motion and second. 1964 03:10:46,368 --> 03:10:48,700 Unless there is further comment, we can move forward. 1965 03:10:48,237 --> 03:10:49,438 >> I'm sorry. 1966 03:10:49,438 --> 03:10:50,706 Who made the motion? 1967 03:10:50,706 --> 03:10:54,760 >> mayor: the motion was made by commissioner -- >> fernandez. 1968 03:10:54,443 --> 03:10:56,578 >> mayor: fernandez and seconded by commissioner menendez. 1969 03:10:56,578 --> 03:10:57,790 >> thank you. 1970 03:10:57,513 --> 03:10:58,800 Commissioner fernandez. 1971 03:10:58,247 --> 03:10:58,514 >> yes. 1972 03:10:58,514 --> 03:10:59,810 >> commissioner menendez. 1973 03:10:59,248 --> 03:10:59,515 >> yes. 1974 03:10:59,515 --> 03:11:00,782 >> vice mayor anderson. 1975 03:11:00,782 --> 03:11:01,160 >> no. 1976 03:11:01,160 --> 03:11:01,850 >> commissioner castro. 1977 03:11:01,850 --> 03:11:02,117 >> yes. 1978 03:11:02,117 --> 03:11:03,180 >> mayor lago. 1979 03:11:03,151 --> 03:11:04,860 >> mayor: no. 1980 03:11:04,860 --> 03:11:04,860 Thank you very much. 1981 03:11:04,786 --> 03:11:06,540 Good to see you. 1982 03:11:06,540 --> 03:11:07,890 >> thank you very much. 1983 03:11:07,890 --> 03:11:13,610 In closing, I want to thank you all very much and let you know that actors playhouse, we have a long-term lease with you. 1984 03:11:13,161 --> 03:11:22,271 We are dedicated to continue to present the highest quality of programming there and follow-up with everything that we do. 1985 03:11:22,271 --> 03:11:28,430 And I'm only sorry this caused some commotion among this commission and we appreciate the opportunity to move forward. 1986 03:11:28,430 --> 03:11:28,777 Thank you very much. 1987 03:11:28,777 --> 03:11:37,819 >> mayor: like I told you before, like I told you yesterday when we met, I have no doubt you are committed to excellence. 1988 03:11:37,819 --> 03:11:39,688 >> I want to make you a subscriber. 1989 03:11:39,688 --> 03:11:40,880 >> mayor: I love theater. 1990 03:11:40,756 --> 03:11:43,325 But I try to limit certain things. 1991 03:11:43,325 --> 03:11:44,260 Thank you very much. 1992 03:11:44,159 --> 03:11:49,331 >> and barbara, I apologize to you for having to endure this and to your team. 1993 03:11:49,331 --> 03:11:49,898 >> we understand. 1994 03:11:49,898 --> 03:11:52,200 >> the city deserved better and you deserved better. 1995 03:11:52,200 --> 03:11:54,703 And I apologize on behalf of my colleagues. 1996 03:11:54,703 --> 03:11:58,730 >> I just want to say we don't take this personally, anybody among us. 1997 03:11:58,730 --> 03:12:01,810 We understand that everybody has a difference of opinion. 1998 03:12:01,810 --> 03:12:03,745 And no apology is necessary. 1999 03:12:03,745 --> 03:12:06,114 We understand we are a strong people. 2000 03:12:06,114 --> 03:12:14,560 That's why we have lasted this way and that's why we are sustainable and why we're going to be here for the city at the highest level for years to come. 2001 03:12:14,560 --> 03:12:14,890 >> mayor: thank you very much. 2002 03:12:14,890 --> 03:12:17,926 We're going to skip f-4 and try to get into f-5. 2003 03:12:17,926 --> 03:12:18,927 I think that's quick. 2004 03:12:18,927 --> 03:12:23,310 I want to see if we can get a few things in before our lunch at 1:00. 2005 03:12:23,265 --> 03:12:31,730 >> f-5 is resolution of the city commission authorizing satchmo blues bar and grill, inc. 2006 03:12:31,640 --> 03:12:44,386 Doing business as fritz & france bierhaus to utilize the public space for a uefa european championship and copa america watch party. 2007 03:12:44,386 --> 03:12:49,858 >> mayor: before we get started, is someone from the staff going to be speaking in regards to staff? 2008 03:12:49,858 --> 03:12:52,940 >> the deputy city attorney can explain what the resolution says. 2009 03:12:52,794 --> 03:12:53,610 >> yeah. 2010 03:12:53,610 --> 03:12:54,997 >> mayor: that's what I would like to hear. 2011 03:12:54,997 --> 03:13:00,200 >> again, good afternoon, mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, as the city attorney stated, I'll defer the details to fred. 2012 03:13:00,200 --> 03:13:03,305 But wanted to let you know how we got here today. 2013 03:13:03,305 --> 03:13:10,345 My understanding, again these two gentlemen can correct me if I'm wrong is the city received an application for a special event in the middle of last week. 2014 03:13:10,345 --> 03:13:12,881 After the deadline for this agenda had already passed. 2015 03:13:12,881 --> 03:13:23,580 The application as presented does not currently meet all of the requirements of the special events guidelines and as such, in order to proceed, the applicant has asked for commission approval. 2016 03:13:23,158 --> 03:13:33,602 The resolution authorizes the public event, the special event to use the public space located at 60 merrick way for various days between june 20th and july 15th. 2017 03:13:33,602 --> 03:13:40,800 There are certain conditions that are tied to the approval along with any other reasonable conditions deemed necessary by city staff. 2018 03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:42,770 Happy to answer any questions about the resolution. 2019 03:13:42,411 --> 03:13:45,313 As to the details of the event, I'll leave it to these two. 2020 03:13:45,313 --> 03:13:54,122 >> mayor: before we get into the details of the event, I'd like to understand a little bit what are the particulars that are missing from the usual protocols. 2021 03:13:54,122 --> 03:14:07,335 >> just it is my understanding -- again I'll let fred confirm that the city's community recreation department has certain guidelines related to number of events, number of days events can be in a row, number of events can be held in a certain 2022 03:14:07,335 --> 03:14:14,900 location during the year as well as set up and takedown of events and as to the details of that, I'll let fred. 2023 03:14:14,176 --> 03:14:14,543 >> mayor: mr. 2024 03:14:14,543 --> 03:14:17,450 Director, thank you for being here. 2025 03:14:17,450 --> 03:14:17,450 >> thank you. 2026 03:14:17,412 --> 03:14:26,488 So a few years back, we brought to the city commission at the request of the city commission some guidelines to set policy for how we did special events. 2027 03:14:26,488 --> 03:14:36,980 A few of the things that were made into those guidelines were first that if you had a multi-day event, it would take place between thursday and sunday. 2028 03:14:36,231 --> 03:14:49,678 If there was a location that was adjacent to residential properties, you couldn't have events at more than 24 instances, 24 days of events in a given year. 2029 03:14:49,678 --> 03:15:08,897 So with those two guidelines and how it pertains to fritz & franz's application, it would require them to at the end of every four-day period take down their screen and their setup each and 2030 03:15:08,897 --> 03:15:09,898 their screen and their setup each each and every time. 2031 03:15:09,898 --> 03:15:14,970 They are requesting to have it up for the month for these two tournaments. 2032 03:15:14,970 --> 03:15:19,107 In 2022, it was a similar request for the world cup. 2033 03:15:19,107 --> 03:15:28,517 And because it was the same two things that we're discussing on the guidelines, harold came to the commission and we were able to discuss the event. 2034 03:15:28,517 --> 03:15:38,860 And he was given approval and he had the world cup which had an extension of those gleans and allowed him to have certain exceptut on the plaza and do the games. 2035 03:15:38,860 --> 03:15:47,202 The things that came into play here is leaving the screen up and then also there is a couple of tuesdays where there will be games. 2036 03:15:47,202 --> 03:15:50,710 The games aren't too late at night so we think we're okay there. 2037 03:15:50,472 --> 03:16:01,550 And there's a possibility that maybe a tuesday or wednesday, if the semifinals end up being something that's of note with teams that will be popular and the people would come like brazil or u.s. 2038 03:16:01,550 --> 03:16:03,985 Or something like that. 2039 03:16:03,985 --> 03:16:11,493 >> my name is harold norvai, owner of fritz & franz bierhaus. 2040 03:16:11,493 --> 03:16:17,320 I'm basically asking the plaza setup for not the whole month but for 17 days. 2041 03:16:17,132 --> 03:16:21,236 We can still bring it down to 15 days if necessary. 2042 03:16:21,236 --> 03:16:26,374 17 days would give us the 24 days of the year, with three days, we have st. 2043 03:16:26,374 --> 03:16:31,713 Patrick's and four days oktoberfest in october. 2044 03:16:31,713 --> 03:16:36,484 17 days and I believe you all have the days there when these events occur. 2045 03:16:36,484 --> 03:16:45,126 Some of these days, like sunday the 23rd, there's a 9:00 p.m. 2046 03:16:45,126 --> 03:16:48,960 Game with grand panama, we will not have the screen on. 2047 03:16:48,960 --> 03:17:03,144 What we are asking you today is not to bring the screen down and put it back in the restaurant, nor to take the tents down basically because it will -- if the games are on the weekend until 11:00 at night, it is too much for us to bring the 2048 03:17:03,144 --> 03:17:08,516 tents down and the tables in if we have to bring it back out the next morning. 2049 03:17:08,516 --> 03:17:13,488 So where you have a red line, there is no games the next day. 2050 03:17:13,488 --> 03:17:19,461 So we could bring in the tables and store them inside of the restaurant. 2051 03:17:19,461 --> 03:17:23,665 But basically it's for two days and then we have to bring it back out again. 2052 03:17:23,665 --> 03:17:30,472 So what we are asking the city commission is give us the seven days, let us keep the setup as it is. 2053 03:17:30,472 --> 03:17:36,278 We set it up one day before and we break it down on july 15th and everything will be gone. 2054 03:17:36,278 --> 03:17:41,490 And we're going to pressure clean the plaza like usual. 2055 03:17:41,490 --> 03:17:46,870 And when there is games, like fred mentioned at 9:00 p.m. 2056 03:17:46,655 --> 03:17:53,528 As on thursday night, argentina and canada, first we didn't want to show these games outside. 2057 03:17:53,528 --> 03:17:58,330 But we do expect a lot of people at that time. 2058 03:17:58,330 --> 03:18:06,700 So it's up to the city commission to decide if you allow us to keep the 17 days the plaza set up. 2059 03:18:06,174 --> 03:18:08,760 >> mayor: first off, thank you for being here. 2060 03:18:08,510 --> 03:18:10,478 I want to mention something very quickly. 2061 03:18:10,478 --> 03:18:13,481 I haven't got a complaint in months. 2062 03:18:13,481 --> 03:18:16,484 So I want to commend you for your efforts. 2063 03:18:16,484 --> 03:18:21,523 I usually have gotten complaints, obviously a lot of high-traffic events. 2064 03:18:21,523 --> 03:18:24,426 Just sidewalk being a little dirty or a lot of noise. 2065 03:18:24,426 --> 03:18:25,360 Not a lot but noise. 2066 03:18:25,360 --> 03:18:27,620 I haven't gotten one. 2067 03:18:27,162 --> 03:18:29,331 So I love giving credit where credit is due. 2068 03:18:29,331 --> 03:18:29,731 >> thank you. 2069 03:18:29,731 --> 03:18:32,934 >> I know you're working hard. 2070 03:18:32,934 --> 03:18:38,506 We haven't agreed on certain issues in the past, but I want you to understand you have been working hard. 2071 03:18:38,506 --> 03:18:43,645 You're in an area that has a lot of people and you also have residents living really right on top of you. 2072 03:18:43,645 --> 03:18:46,470 So I want to commend you on that. 2073 03:18:46,114 --> 03:18:50,518 I don't have an issue with the extension as long as staff feels comfortable with it and they are okay with it. 2074 03:18:50,518 --> 03:18:52,153 You have police presence. 2075 03:18:52,153 --> 03:18:54,289 You are obviously going to keep cleaning everything. 2076 03:18:54,289 --> 03:18:54,556 >> yes. 2077 03:18:54,556 --> 03:18:58,793 >> you're going to make sure the garbage is picked up. 2078 03:18:58,793 --> 03:19:11,272 Do you ever encounter -- I am asking because I notice in high traffic situations, as people leave your establishment, they take a plastic cup and they throw it away at a garbage can, let's say 30 feet away from you? 2079 03:19:11,272 --> 03:19:15,110 >> what we do immediately after each game -- >> mayor: and it's overflowing. 2080 03:19:15,110 --> 03:19:16,845 It's not your responsibility but our responsibility. 2081 03:19:16,845 --> 03:19:22,684 Then when it ends up happening, we're not supposed to pick it up for two days from the moment of your event. 2082 03:19:22,684 --> 03:19:24,552 It's overflowing for two days. 2083 03:19:24,552 --> 03:19:26,354 Do you encounter that? 2084 03:19:26,354 --> 03:19:29,657 >> I think we have this pretty much under control. 2085 03:19:29,657 --> 03:19:36,640 After every game, I send my crew around and we clean up even on the street when the people toss the plastic cup. 2086 03:19:36,464 --> 03:19:37,665 No problem, we pick it up. 2087 03:19:37,665 --> 03:19:40,769 We ask the waste management for an extra pickup if need to. 2088 03:19:40,769 --> 03:19:43,571 We ask for that. 2089 03:19:43,571 --> 03:19:46,700 We have -- like you said, we have no incidents. 2090 03:19:46,700 --> 03:19:48,743 I think we are very good with organizing all this. 2091 03:19:48,743 --> 03:19:53,948 We have had no problems with the traffic flow in and out. 2092 03:19:53,948 --> 03:20:00,550 What was beneficial to the city, we are continuously filling the parking lot when there's big games. 2093 03:20:00,550 --> 03:20:06,594 The city is going to benefit with the 6,600 plaza fee. 2094 03:20:06,594 --> 03:20:09,497 The restaurant around us -- we talk to them and they benefit. 2095 03:20:09,497 --> 03:20:11,966 They have a lot of people coming also to them. 2096 03:20:11,966 --> 03:20:22,610 And with the barricades around the plaza, we are controlling underage drinking with wrist bands and controlling the flow of how many people can come in. 2097 03:20:22,610 --> 03:20:28,149 When the police says, look, there's enough people in the plaza, we stop. 2098 03:20:28,149 --> 03:20:35,190 And on certain games like the semifinal, we do charge admission because it also keeps people out and keeps people in. 2099 03:20:35,190 --> 03:20:45,660 And we monitor also the 3 feet from the sidewalk, the people -- that nobody stands and watch the game from outside. 2100 03:20:45,300 --> 03:20:49,300 >> mayor: my potent was -- and I know you're doing that because you haven't got any complaints. 2101 03:20:49,300 --> 03:20:56,878 Is for the director, if we can take a look at just monitoring -- we're doing a lot of pickups. 2102 03:20:56,878 --> 03:20:58,279 Haven't got any complaints either. 2103 03:20:58,279 --> 03:21:02,217 I just witnessed it after a big soccer game -- which I love the soccer games. 2104 03:21:02,217 --> 03:21:08,123 After a big soccer game, I notice when people walk away, they throw their garbage in a city-owned garbage can. 2105 03:21:08,123 --> 03:21:10,859 We're not picking that up for three or four days. 2106 03:21:10,859 --> 03:21:11,793 That's regular programming. 2107 03:21:11,793 --> 03:21:16,664 We don't need to pick it up more than we are picking it up because it's not being filled that fast. 2108 03:21:16,664 --> 03:21:23,571 But when you have 200, 300 people show up and as they are leaving they are walking to their car and eating something, it gets full. 2109 03:21:23,571 --> 03:21:24,739 It's not his fault. 2110 03:21:24,739 --> 03:21:26,740 It's not the city's fault. 2111 03:21:26,541 --> 03:21:32,130 Instead of people disposing of it at his restaurant, they are disposing as walking to the car. 2112 03:21:32,130 --> 03:21:33,810 We all do it. 2113 03:21:33,181 --> 03:21:34,182 Are you concurrenting that? 2114 03:21:34,182 --> 03:21:35,416 Have you seen that? 2115 03:21:35,416 --> 03:21:42,790 >> did you see that after the event on these specifically, I don't recall from the world cup which is last time a couple of years ago. 2116 03:21:42,790 --> 03:21:43,625 But it happens. 2117 03:21:43,625 --> 03:21:53,670 When we have certain things, even if they are not permitted special events, it's just like an opening somewhere or opening night, we do see that. 2118 03:21:53,168 --> 03:21:56,671 But I have event staff that goes and checks so I'll make sure that they are checking. 2119 03:21:56,671 --> 03:22:08,750 And then we can call our green space management that handles those or whichever department it is that handles the cans whether block by block or whatever and have them take care of it. 2120 03:22:08,750 --> 03:22:13,870 >> just for the record I just wanted to clafer a few things about the resolution that's presented here today. 2121 03:22:13,870 --> 03:22:15,990 Our understanding from the application was that 13 days. 2122 03:22:15,990 --> 03:22:23,665 I understand from the applicant today he's requesting 17 days, so that will need to be modified if that's the will of the commission. 2123 03:22:23,665 --> 03:22:25,733 We hadn't been presented with the list previously. 2124 03:22:25,733 --> 03:22:28,570 That will be incorporated as the dates if that's what the commission approves. 2125 03:22:28,570 --> 03:22:30,939 I just wanted to go over some of the conditions. 2126 03:22:30,939 --> 03:22:35,610 Obviously, staff could not approve this in the regular course of business so that's why they are here today. 2127 03:22:35,610 --> 03:22:40,381 But staff does have some conditions they would like to add if it's the will of the commission to approve the special event. 2128 03:22:40,381 --> 03:22:51,920 That would be identifying these -- that the sales of food and alcohol on the plaza are only permitted when those special event matches are televised from opening of the business through 11:00 p.m. 2129 03:22:51,359 --> 03:22:55,797 Amplified sound from remote speakers is prohibited except during the special event matches. 2130 03:22:55,797 --> 03:23:04,380 Applicant will not allow customers or participants to have instruments on the plaza at any time regardless whether it is a day or special event match to be televised. 2131 03:23:04,380 --> 03:23:09,611 Off-duty police will be hired as city staff determines it is necessary during one of these special event matches. 2132 03:23:09,611 --> 03:23:19,988 And failure to follow those directions or any other conditions may result in the revocation of the permit as well as any other conditions that staff determines are reasonable. 2133 03:23:19,988 --> 03:23:27,962 He mentioned the total of 24 days, but should any special events exceed that 24 days, they would obviously need to come to the commission for approval as well. 2134 03:23:27,962 --> 03:23:36,170 Another thing I want to clarify, it was our understanding in drafting this resolution on behalf of the applicant that it was only the television screens to remain up. 2135 03:23:36,170 --> 03:23:48,716 So if it is more than just the television screens to be set up, we would want commission direction on that as well. 2136 03:23:48,716 --> 03:23:49,817 >> and barricade. 2137 03:23:49,817 --> 03:24:00,940 >> or whatever amount of the setup, we would need that permission from the commission because, as fred explained, the guidelines do not allow for setups to be remaining that long. 2138 03:24:00,940 --> 03:24:09,700 >> I think what he was requesting was the tables to be there for -- the tables not to be taken down. 2139 03:24:09,700 --> 03:24:09,700 >> what? 2140 03:24:09,337 --> 03:24:13,675 >> I think what you were requesting was for the tables to stay there, right? 2141 03:24:13,675 --> 03:24:21,150 >> we can have the total amount of 15 tables on the plaza. 2142 03:24:21,150 --> 03:24:22,917 And also we could remove them in. 2143 03:24:22,917 --> 03:24:27,522 But like I said, 11:00 at night, if it is folding tables, they do make some nice. 2144 03:24:27,522 --> 03:24:31,893 I think it is not beneficial to take them down but would leave them up. 2145 03:24:31,893 --> 03:24:35,396 If there is no game the next day, we don't even turn on the big screen. 2146 03:24:35,396 --> 03:24:40,568 So there will be no service on the plaza at all or there will be no service at 9:00 a.m. 2147 03:24:40,568 --> 03:24:45,440 In the morning, not necessary to show a 9:00 a.m. 2148 03:24:45,440 --> 03:24:46,874 Game. 2149 03:24:46,874 --> 03:24:57,949 So what we ask -- >> to clarify, the tents or setup includes tents, the screen,