1 00:03:42,990 --> 00:03:45,090 Your TV is waiting for us. 2 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:37,450 Webcast audience and your TV, we have a new configuration and a new system that we are trying out tonight, and it sounds good, and I think we're going to be OK. So we'll stand for a moment of personal reflection. 3 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:38,070 We'll 4 00:07:57,170 --> 00:08:02,350 ask Councillor Gardner to lead us in a singing of the National Anthem, please. 5 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:20,790 Oh Canada, our whole and native land, true patriot love, in all of us command, Calton 6 00:08:27,290 --> 00:08:33,470 In the history of love and liberation. 7 00:08:33,470 --> 00:08:37,110 There is no more of the land, 8 00:08:38,130 --> 00:08:38,850 There is no more of the land, 9 00:08:38,850 --> 00:08:41,570 God keeps our land, 10 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:44,910 glorious and free. 11 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:08,370 Thank you, Councillor Gardner. That was beautiful. 12 00:09:14,730 --> 00:09:16,070 We acknowledge that we are gathering 13 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:19,070 on the traditional territory of Mohawk people of aqua-sasning. 14 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:21,550 Madam Clerk, roll call. 15 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:24,510 Mayor Bernadette Clima, present. 16 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:33,010 Councillors, Claude McIntosh, Elaine Mcdonald, present, Sid Garner, Dean Hollingsworth, 17 00:09:33,930 --> 00:09:35,870 Cadeline Barre, present. 18 00:09:36,410 --> 00:09:45,950 Councillors, Modice Dupelle, Glenn Grant, Todd Bennett, and Councillor Eric Bergeron. 19 00:09:48,190 --> 00:09:51,270 We have regrets from Councillor Towne dail Madam Mayor. 20 00:09:53,390 --> 00:09:57,570 Any additions, deletions or amendments? Councillor Mcdonald. 21 00:09:58,250 --> 00:10:04,810 Thank you, Madam Mayor, and I would move that we move 14.1, the proclamation of paramedic 22 00:10:04,810 --> 00:10:08,030 services week, to communications from consent. 23 00:10:08,770 --> 00:10:09,230 Thank you. 24 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:12,050 Any other items? 25 00:10:13,270 --> 00:10:14,030 Madam Clerk? 26 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:15,870 I have none, Madam Mayor. 27 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:19,550 Adoption at the agenda. 28 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:24,430 Moved by Councillor McIntosh, seconded by Councillor Gardner. 29 00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:24,990 Any discussion? 30 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,260 So when I call for a vote, I'll ask the Councillors on the phone first. 31 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:33,200 All in favour? 32 00:10:33,620 --> 00:10:34,020 Anyone 33 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:39,420 else in favour? 34 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:40,740 Carried. 35 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:44,080 Any disclosure of interest? 36 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,440 Councillor Todd Bennett. 37 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Can I ask that we have, in passing, a by-laws 2010 pulled out to be voted on separately as 38 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,320 it's the property is in my backyard, basically. 39 00:10:59,470 --> 00:11:02,830 Madam Clerk, I have that under note to Madam Mayor. 40 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:04,490 Thank you. 41 00:11:05,270 --> 00:11:07,570 I need a motion to go into committee of the whole. 42 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:10,270 Councillor Mcdonald, Councillor Grant. 43 00:11:11,510 --> 00:11:13,170 On the phone, all in favour? 44 00:11:14,670 --> 00:11:15,370 In favour? 45 00:11:16,010 --> 00:11:18,430 In the room, in favour? 46 00:11:19,170 --> 00:11:19,770 Carried. 47 00:11:21,900 --> 00:11:22,840 Adoption of minutes. 48 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,780 So we have the meeting of May 11, 2020. 49 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,840 Moved by Councillor McDonnell, seconded by Councillor Bennett. Any discussion? 50 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,200 All in favour? On the phone? 51 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:38,260 In favour. 52 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,600 In the room. 53 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:41,420 Carried. 54 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:44,820 Madam Clerk. 55 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Concert portion of the agenda. First report is the Ontario Regulation 284-09 Budget 56 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,740 Matter Expenses with a recommendation that Council receive this report as required 57 00:11:56,740 --> 00:12:03,020 by the Municipal Act. COVID-19 Temporary Pandemic Wage Subsidy with a recommendation 58 00:12:03,020 --> 00:12:08,620 that Council receive this report. And RFP terms of reference for supply at maintenance 59 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:12,980 of multi-function devices with a recommendation that Council receive this report. 60 00:12:12,980 --> 00:12:13,920 Moved 61 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:24,280 by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Hollingsworth. Any discussion? All in favor on the phone? 62 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,980 In favor, sorry Madam Mayor, I just had one question. Yes, Councillor Debelle, go ahead. 63 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:39,980 I just wanted to know through you to Madam, this is Adam. I know that the report for 14.3 says that we're going to, 64 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:42,720 that we, employers, would get communication by basis. 65 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,380 Did we, in fact, get communication from the problem? 66 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:49,240 Madam CEO, through you, Madam Mayor. 67 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:50,300 No, we have not. 68 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,820 So we also put this item on the agenda, 69 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,420 which was published midweek last week, 70 00:12:57,860 --> 00:12:59,360 hoping that at some point in time 71 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 there might have been further communication from the province. 72 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,900 So it's a stands right now. 73 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:06,460 We're still awaiting to try and understand exactly 74 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,080 what positions and who will qualify. 75 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:17,200 But I could also redirect it to Mr. Clark who I think could speak to how quickly the city should be able to 76 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,500 Respond once we have better information 77 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:20,880 Mr. Clark 78 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:28,600 Thank you, so for administratively the city is ready to proceed with this 79 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,520 Once we receive direction and guidance from the province about how this is to be administered 80 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:37,760 We are ready to press the go button as soon as we find that out 81 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,330 Thank you very much, Mr. Court. 82 00:13:42,350 --> 00:13:42,990 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 83 00:13:44,090 --> 00:13:45,950 So, Councillors Depele and Berserol in favour? 84 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:48,230 In favour? 85 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:49,450 In favour? 86 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:49,970 In favour? 87 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:50,270 In the room. 88 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:52,890 Carried. 89 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Our next item is an unfinished business report closing of Pit Street for COVID-19. 90 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:06,040 Recommended that A, Council receive this report. 91 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,380 B, that Pit Street from 3rd to 1st remain open to vehicles. 92 00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:15,600 and see that downtown businesses be encouraged to make use of the city's encroachment agreement 93 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,300 application, should they wish to increase restaurant or retail space. 94 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:29,210 Councillor Berserun. I'd like to make a motion to receive this report. 95 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,860 Is there a seconder for that? Councillor Mackinac. 96 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,160 I'll talk to that. Oh. 97 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,020 Councillor Dupel, your seconding? 98 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,460 Okay. Discussion. Do you want to start off, Councillor Berserun? 99 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:58,380 Councillor Grant. Are we just passing the one point here to receive the report because 100 00:14:58,380 --> 00:14:59,660 because it's three parts to it. 101 00:15:01,010 --> 00:15:31,010 Just for clarification. Of course. Councilor Persero. Motion is to receive the report. And the other items. Will you be speaking to- Does it be done separately afterwards? Okay. So do you want to speak on your motion to receive the report? Yes, please. Go ahead. I think it's important to comment. There's a few things that have come from this report and so there's actually a lot in it. 102 00:15:31,010 --> 00:15:36,770 I know that it was a short time line and I want to thank administration for putting it together 103 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:42,710 so quickly, business groups and some businesses weren't too happy and they would have preferred 104 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:46,930 more time to gather information and that's very well received. 105 00:15:47,570 --> 00:15:53,730 So I spoke personally to the Chamber of DBA this week and to discuss a feedback, the business 106 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:59,230 leaders in those meetings know we and the Council are trying to help them and they've offered 107 00:15:59,230 --> 00:16:01,070 some solutions that are in this report. 108 00:16:01,990 --> 00:16:08,950 I also want to point out we received a related report today, a survey of almost 200 local 109 00:16:08,950 --> 00:16:15,050 businesses and 15% of them said they risked closing permanently in the next four to 110 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:15,550 six months. 111 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:21,490 That's almost 30 local businesses already stating that they've had to close in the coming 112 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:21,890 months. 113 00:16:22,050 --> 00:16:22,870 That's one in six. 114 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:29,850 So the conclusion for me is that we're in an economic emergency right now and this request 115 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:32,030 for this report is meant to help to deal with that. 116 00:16:34,090 --> 00:16:38,690 I think we've done a pretty good job at mitigating the medical emergency in this region. 117 00:16:39,150 --> 00:16:41,330 There's no Dr. Paul for the economy. 118 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:46,170 And so we as counselors, we make motions, we ask for reports. 119 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:50,690 We're in a pandemic, so speed and not perfection for mantra. 120 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,020 So if I ask you for a report this way, we're able to get some feedback from the businesses 121 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:04,120 as well as the community, the BIAs, the Chamber, the Police, Farmwall Transit, Economic 122 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Development Planning, Engineering. 123 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:11,840 We reviewed the encroachment process and quite a few ideas have come forward. 124 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,040 I think it's important to remember that as a council, we also have to factor in public safety 125 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,020 when we make decisions. 126 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:29,980 I see other cities setting up economic recovery teams and that's one of the items of the feedback that we've received here from the Chamber and the BIA. 127 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:37,920 It's something I fully support and that it would allow us maybe an avenue for talking about ideas in a different way. 128 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,080 The report says the businesses don't want third to second clothes. 129 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,140 That's loud and clear, that's no problem. 130 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:50,820 No motion I don't think is required because pitch street is already open. 131 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Some businesses, however, we're talking about maybe closing pitch street, south of second 132 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,140 street, maybe on weekends, you know, I hear some compromise on that block and so I don't 133 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:07,940 want to make a motion that's going to get in the way of them succeeding through this 134 00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:08,420 pandemic. 135 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,620 So the motion is to receive so that their hands aren't tied. 136 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:19,180 I saw that the province today is looking to speed up outdoor patio and licensing violence 137 00:18:19,180 --> 00:18:24,120 to prepare restaurants for expanding onto streets, so I look forward to that coming forward. 138 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,860 These are the types of suggestions that sound like an economic recovery task force is necessary, 139 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:40,160 And so I would ask therefore, Madam Mayor, that you set up as per the suggestion in economic recovery task force. 140 00:18:40,780 --> 00:18:46,140 And we as the Council start treating the economic crisis that we're in, like we have the health pandemic. 141 00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:49,580 We don't want to lose 15% of our local businesses. 142 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,380 So therefore I move to accept this report. 143 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:58,900 I would also like to make a second motion to about free parking after we talk about this. 144 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:05,440 So, this motion is to receive the report and I have started a speaker's list, Councillor 145 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,520 about it. 146 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,920 Thank you Madam Mayor. 147 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:08,780 I have no questions. 148 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,660 I just really want to thank Mr. Buello for this really excellent report, especially with 149 00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:16,340 such a short time frame. 150 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,980 I think the information that was provided to us was excellent beyond my expectations. 151 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:28,480 Provided some history that I didn't have about Pitt Street, that I'm glad I was able 152 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,340 to learn through this report, and I'm glad to see that our downtown is already very pedestrian 153 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:42,040 friendly and provides us with plenty of space for our local businesses to expand onto that pedestrian 154 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:49,520 space in this time of COVID-19, but I'm quite grateful for this report. I think it was excellent. 155 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,500 So thank you to you and your team for putting it together. 156 00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:57,400 Thank you. Any other questions, comments? Councillor McIntosh. 157 00:19:58,940 --> 00:20:01,380 I guess I'd direct this towards Mark. 158 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,880 The encroachment agreement I believe that was passed by Council, member of Council 159 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,900 Township proposed that, and I don't know who second it, about two years ago. 160 00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:15,200 What's been the reaction in that time? 161 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:16,900 Mr. Butler. 162 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Through you, Madam Mayor. 163 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,380 So that report was written in 2016. 164 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,560 As you see, it's got quite a few pages to it. 165 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,940 It's a very detailed report. 166 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:35,920 The, it's unfortunate, the take up on it was not what we expected. 167 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:40,600 I think there are some opportunities on pit street, certainly on pit street. 168 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:45,720 And it's really intended not just for pit street, but for the downtown Anlo Villache. 169 00:20:46,460 --> 00:20:50,780 It speaks to encroachments onto the city's right of way. 170 00:20:51,960 --> 00:21:17,900 Hopefully in most situations on to, for example, the brick work, the pedestrian space on Pitt Street, and in fact also allows in a more complicated way, though, the use of parking spaces for that same thing, I can speak further to that, but to answer your question, there was no uptake since the date. 171 00:21:19,140 --> 00:21:25,300 So, the history that we have, of course, is we have one or two or three actually, we 172 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:30,280 in fact have three current, sorry, two current encroachment agreements for 173 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:39,200 restaurants. There is one that we used to have with Gemini Cafe and unfortunately, 174 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,900 of course, that restaurant is no longer there, so there are currently two 175 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:52,920 restaurants, schnitzels and truffles, truffles into the side yard and as written in my report 176 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:59,220 I really highly recommend that more businesses and I think there will be some businesses 177 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:04,580 that come forward, not just restaurants but perhaps even retail, who will come forward 178 00:22:04,580 --> 00:22:05,340 to take advantage. 179 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:15,840 I know that there has been some concern raised in some of the correspondence of that system being a bit convoluted. 180 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:25,120 I think there are some good reasons why the process involves as many different departments. 181 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:32,020 For example, if you're talking about a parking space, you're talking about that's the city's right of way. 182 00:22:32,020 --> 00:22:35,960 and somebody is now using it for sales or restaurant. 183 00:22:36,620 --> 00:22:38,200 There are liability issues there. 184 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:41,680 You want to make sure that people are in a very safe situation. 185 00:22:43,760 --> 00:23:00,580 So while I would agree that we would want to simplify the process, we can't simplify it to the point where it's not following permission from whether it'd be the police or the transportation department or 186 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,580 or the municipal works, et cetera. 187 00:23:03,220 --> 00:23:06,340 So we wanna make sure that people can make use of that space. 188 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,860 That's why it was designed that way. 189 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,600 And we would encourage people 190 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,380 and we'd be happy to work with them to make that happen. 191 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,780 I only had one comment from a business person, 192 00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:22,360 excuse me, I don't know if it's a fair comment or not, 193 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,740 but he said you needed to be a Philadelphia lawyer 194 00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:26,360 to read the agreement. 195 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,680 And that's the scary some people off. 196 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,060 I don't, I've never read the agreement so I don't know. 197 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:42,060 Well, if I can just make a comment on that, I, again, I read it in greater detail recently and I would agree that there's a lot there. 198 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:50,000 Again, though, I think we have to be very careful when we're putting the public on essentially the right way. 199 00:23:50,000 --> 00:24:00,740 Okay, that information for the parking space situation is much more complicated than putting somebody on to the pedestrian space of our right of way. 200 00:24:03,340 --> 00:24:09,240 The process though, there's a flow chart that you have in your report. 201 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:18,620 And as much as it looks a bit complicated, it's really just an applicant makes an application to the planning department, 202 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:26,300 the planning department circulates to other city departments and perhaps other agencies, the Health Unit, for example, may be one. 203 00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:31,900 And that comes to council and there's a $370 one-time fee. 204 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:39,820 So we can simplify it and we can play with the fee, but it's really not that complicated. 205 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,500 There is a lot of information that's required in the application, but 206 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:51,980 But it's all information that I would hesitate to remove anything from it, because when you 207 00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:59,900 get into insurance and liability and permission, I think you want to get as much information 208 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:00,560 as you need. 209 00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:03,760 Yeah, I agree with you on the liability and the other issues. 210 00:25:04,220 --> 00:25:10,920 Just to something Councillor Burgeon referred to was the survey that Bob Peter sent us about 211 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:20,560 an hour ago, surprising, shocking in some ways. Obviously, anything we can do to help retail 212 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:29,100 really appreciate it. Thank you. Mr. Wallow, can you reference that survey 213 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,240 that Councillor McIntosh just spoke of? 214 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:38,060 It's a survey that was put out by SDNG together 215 00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:45,000 with the city of Cornwall. I think it asked a number of questions. I don't have the information 216 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,140 in front of me, unfortunately. If I was to go back and perhaps give you a bit of information 217 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:55,020 later, I can do that. I just unfortunately don't have it here in front of me, but I can 218 00:25:55,020 --> 00:26:00,080 make reference to it later, if you wish. That's fine. I just want to make sure that 219 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,920 the audience knows that they can also access that report on the Choose Cornwall website, 220 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,500 I believe. So that's also good information for people. 221 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:14,080 Any other questions from Council or comments? 222 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,380 Councillor Gartner. 223 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,500 I really only have a comment and during 224 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:27,480 the past meeting when we were talking about pitch tree and the closure, one of the things 225 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:34,720 I said to you, Mark, was to come back with a report and a report that you wrote and you came 226 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,640 back with in a short period of time I really appreciate it and I thank you very much for that. 227 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,940 Any other questions? 228 00:26:48,750 --> 00:26:49,530 Councillor Depelle? 229 00:26:53,980 --> 00:27:00,900 Okay. So I will just add some comments so you 230 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:07,800 did have a very tight time frame to produce a report and so I do want to also thank you 231 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:14,400 for how thorough this report is and it does provide some really good historical information 232 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,280 which is a reminder of what we had back in the day. 233 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:39,560 My understanding is that people want to make sure that their businesses are not impacted by any kind of activity that is going to reduce access to the downtown. 234 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:47,480 However, in my conversations with business owners, there's a real difference between how 235 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,840 restaurants feel about this and how stores feel about it. 236 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,040 And so, that might merit further conversation. 237 00:27:56,780 --> 00:28:02,040 I am part of the Eastern Ontario Mayor's Caucus, and I know that in other cities in Eastern 238 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:10,460 Ontario, including Kingston, they are looking at doing a temporary type of lane reduction 239 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:17,260 and or periodic closure of part of their downtown to accommodate particularly restaurants. 240 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:24,180 The City of Kingston also references the province becoming involved to make things easier 241 00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:31,220 for restaurants who want to enlarge their patios as well. 242 00:28:31,220 --> 00:28:36,240 So we know that there's a lot of discussion going on, but I do want to thank administration 243 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,780 for getting ahead of this. 244 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:43,340 You in fact started to talk to business owners ahead of the last council meeting because 245 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:45,240 you were dealing with curbside. 246 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:52,980 And so you were already canvassing the DBA and the Chamber of Commerce. 247 00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:54,420 So I do appreciate that. 248 00:28:55,420 --> 00:29:00,300 The comment about the economic recovery or task force is a good one. 249 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:06,480 Again, at the Eastern Ontario Mayor's caucus and the CAO was present, and the CAO in fact 250 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,300 has been talking to other CAOs and has been talking about an economic recovery or task 251 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,320 force for the last few weeks. 252 00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:21,860 And the executive director of the Chamber of Commerce also raised that possibility in the 253 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:22,900 last few weeks. 254 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,660 So I might ask the CAO to speak of her understanding of an economic recovery task force, her experience 255 00:29:29,660 --> 00:29:30,540 with other municipalities. 256 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,020 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 257 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:41,620 I think that what I've been able to gather from some other municipalities if task force 258 00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:48,740 was put together would have a composition of many different types of businesses, different 259 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:57,460 sectors, some staff, some elected officials, really with a focus of brainstorming if there 260 00:29:57,460 --> 00:29:59,860 there are things that could be moved. 261 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,520 I would like to pause quicker by bringing all of the right representatives together to potentially make a decision or look at something. I have not seen terms or reference for some of these tasks for us yet, but I might be able to obtain some. And then I think depending on the municipality, there might be a slightly different approach. I know that in Prince Edward County, part of their approach really is about safe tourism as well because I think they're anticipating an influx of 262 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,740 of tourists still into their region. 263 00:30:32,980 --> 00:30:35,560 So it depends a little bit, I think, on the area, 264 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:40,300 but it's something that I think certainly could be put together. 265 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,980 Yes, and our neighbors in Eastern Ontario 266 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:47,200 are very willing to share all of their best practices. 267 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:50,060 So it's a good one, and we can proceed with that, 268 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640 and we've started to have conversation about that. 269 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:55,060 So that was just a comment in response 270 00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:56,960 to Councillor Berseriel's comments. 271 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:04,040 I also had, you know, through Facebook Live, some very good discussions with business owners. 272 00:31:04,220 --> 00:31:06,500 And so, I think we need to continue that conversation. 273 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,020 They have very good ideas, very big ideas. 274 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,960 And depending on their point of view, they do want to have chats with each other and amongst themselves. 275 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:24,200 So, I think the DBIA and the Chamber of Commerce for being so available, 276 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,660 so quick to respond to surveys and so quick to provide information for this report. 277 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:38,950 So much appreciated. I'll call for the vote on the phone in favour of receiving the 278 00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:43,030 report? In favour? In the room, all in favour? 279 00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:45,550 Against? Carried. 280 00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:50,940 I'd like to make a second motion without a 281 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:53,120 mayor's permit. Councillor Berseron, what's your 282 00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:00,080 motion. Related to the report, the city of Cornwall implemented in 4, 3, 1 hour street 283 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,460 parking in our downtown business district and 2 hour free parking in our downtown parking 284 00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:13,560 lots as per the record. So I'm going to have to either refer to the CIO or the clerk as 285 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,500 to the motion and the timing of this motion. 286 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,120 Through you Madam Mayor, it is my opinion that 287 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,260 this motion is not germane to the, this report itself. 288 00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:29,260 Why is that? 289 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:29,920 You want to clear? 290 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,180 Because this deals with the closing of pit street. 291 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:36,640 And there was a separate motion made at our last meeting, 292 00:32:36,820 --> 00:32:38,300 asking for a report on parking 293 00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,280 and that one will be coming at our next meeting. 294 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,760 Councillor Persiault. 295 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:49,450 Well, that report was supposed to be at this meeting. 296 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,030 This is the only motion for the downtown. 297 00:32:56,490 --> 00:32:58,450 So as for the request. 298 00:32:59,250 --> 00:32:59,450 Right. 299 00:32:59,450 --> 00:33:07,570 Can someone remind me as to when the, so there were several motions at the last council meeting when what was the schedule for 300 00:33:08,370 --> 00:33:09,390 producing the reports? 301 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:25,100 The parking report was supposed to be on this agenda. It has been prepared, but was just missing a little bit of information and didn't make it on time for a production of this agenda. So it's been pushed back to the next meeting of June 8th. 302 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:41,660 So I did at the last meeting state that because the motions had come rather quickly that I would grant a lot of leeway in terms of the administration providing the report when they could. 303 00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:46,660 So Mr. Buello, you will have something for us on June 8th? 304 00:33:47,860 --> 00:33:51,200 Absolutely. If I may also amount of money. 305 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:51,740 Please go ahead. 306 00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:55,700 There was more information that's required. 307 00:33:57,130 --> 00:34:02,680 The more we got into this subject, the more we realized we need to better understand 308 00:34:04,010 --> 00:34:10,840 our entire parking program, working with the finance department, trying to understand 309 00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:16,020 the money that we're collecting, what impact it would have if we weren't collecting it. 310 00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:18,480 Where do we use that money? 311 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,480 any, all of that needs to be looked at and the impact of doing something like this. 312 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:32,980 I also want to point out that at this time, the city is not charging for parking in any event. 313 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:47,220 So, in fact, we've not really given a whole lot of thought to starting that process up until we get into a more normal economic situation. 314 00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:59,820 So while the motion is looking for a one hour or two hour parking relief, the fact of the matter is for the next two weeks, we're not charging at any of those locations. 315 00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:15,700 At any city locations, I should point out though that contraventions, of course, parking in fire lanes in front of, et cetera, would still is still a violation, but regular parking fees are not being applied. 316 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:28,160 Okay. Okay. So, Council, Councillor Berserot, the, so your motion would need to come forward 317 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:34,740 June 8th. And I would recommend that the wording that you've used today, that you 318 00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:41,400 communicate that to administration as soon as possible so that their report of June 8th can 319 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,220 address or start to take a look at what you're looking at. 320 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:53,660 But in the meantime, it's clear that parking right now, downtown, is free at this point. 321 00:35:58,050 --> 00:36:01,710 The other thing I'd like to say is that parking is a major issue. 322 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:06,710 I know that we've been talking about that and the merchants have been talking about that for a long time. 323 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:15,150 It's important that the report be complete so that we can have a full discussion on June 8th. 324 00:36:15,230 --> 00:36:17,150 But yes, go ahead and comment Councillor Bergeroon. 325 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:24,150 I just want to say, we're, I just pointed out that one out of six businesses in our community 326 00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:29,150 already are telling us that they cannot survive this pandemic. 327 00:36:30,110 --> 00:36:35,550 If we want to wait another two weeks, that's fine, I understand procedure, but the Chamber 328 00:36:35,550 --> 00:36:42,810 number of commerce, the DBIA, is asking us to initiate free parking immediately. 329 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:45,790 And so that's why I've made this motion. 330 00:36:46,110 --> 00:36:50,550 If we want to wait two weeks, that's fine, but that's two more weeks of businesses in 331 00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:53,190 the city suffering because of the procedure. 332 00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:57,390 Mr. Buello, it's my understanding the parking is free now. 333 00:36:58,090 --> 00:36:58,850 That is correct. 334 00:37:00,190 --> 00:37:03,970 So right now, businesses do businesses understand the parking is free? 335 00:37:03,970 --> 00:37:05,470 Does the community understand that? 336 00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:07,970 Should there be more discussion about that? 337 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:13,870 We could, I could work with Emma to make sure that people understand that. 338 00:37:14,010 --> 00:37:21,110 I can tell you though that our collection is making it quite clear that people know that parking is free. 339 00:37:21,790 --> 00:37:23,150 How revenues are? 340 00:37:23,590 --> 00:37:24,790 Non-existent. 341 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:25,150 Right. 342 00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:25,910 Okay. 343 00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:36,310 So, but again, to my point, there may be more information that could go out so that there's clarity around that for the community. 344 00:37:36,730 --> 00:37:41,170 Certainly, when this started, we didn't yell that from the rooftops. 345 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:43,230 Some cities did, we did not. 346 00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:47,770 So we could probably use more information going out to the public. 347 00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:48,830 Mr. Bolo? 348 00:37:48,830 --> 00:38:15,370 Yes. What I'd like to say on that is that, of course, when most operations were closed, there was really not a need to publicize it because we were making it clear in some of our meetings with Council, and I think the media did pick up on that, but I think we can do a better job of making it clear, especially now that some uses are opening up. 349 00:38:16,070 --> 00:38:17,730 We can make that very clear. 350 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:21,470 We can do that as immediately as today or tomorrow. 351 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:33,770 But yes, absolutely, the revenues are showing that the public are aware, but we can make it very clear. 352 00:38:34,590 --> 00:38:35,730 Thank you, Mr. Buello. 353 00:38:36,210 --> 00:38:41,450 And I can certainly personally communicate with the Chamber of Commerce and with the DBIAs, 354 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:48,930 both to have a discussion about that, but it does sound like a full report will be available 355 00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:53,010 June 8th and that we will have a full council discussion on the issue of parking. 356 00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:54,930 Councillor Burscher or anything further? 357 00:38:56,790 --> 00:39:03,510 Yes, I would just comment that in an email from the Chamber and the DBIA today they said this 358 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:09,550 will send a powerful message to the area merchants and restaurateurs and will encourage customers 359 00:39:09,550 --> 00:39:13,210 to spend their money locally in our downtown again. 360 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:15,550 They're asking for it immediately. 361 00:39:16,210 --> 00:39:20,030 And we, as a council, are saying our process is in the way. 362 00:39:20,610 --> 00:39:22,950 And that, to me, is just unfortunate. 363 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:29,470 Well, I will be speaking personally to the DBA and to the Chamber 364 00:39:29,470 --> 00:39:32,730 of Commerce to tell them that parking is free right now. 365 00:39:33,870 --> 00:39:35,690 So we'll continue with that. 366 00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:38,750 And then we'll have a full discussion on June 8th. 367 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:40,010 Any other comments from council? 368 00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:43,670 I just follow up. 369 00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:44,950 Councilor virtual, 370 00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:49,630 anybody else? 371 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:51,110 Councilor McIntosh. 372 00:39:53,970 --> 00:39:59,710 Councilor virtual is leaving the impression that we're doing something nasty here by putting 373 00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:00,530 the delay in it two weeks. 374 00:40:01,310 --> 00:40:05,090 There's free parking now and there's going to be free parking probably until this thing's 375 00:40:05,090 --> 00:40:05,290 over. 376 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:11,270 I mean, and I haven't seen anything official from the BIA and the Chamber. 377 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:17,090 presentation, saying, hey, we need the free parking right now. 378 00:40:18,330 --> 00:40:20,810 So, their correspondence is in with the report. 379 00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:27,090 Both Mr. Petersma and Ms. Woods did include correspondence. 380 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:30,690 Certainly, the Chambers' correspondence speaks to parking. 381 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:36,210 We know this is an issue that's been coming up for a while, but no, we're not doing anything 382 00:40:36,210 --> 00:40:36,550 nasty. 383 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:41,370 the parking is free, and we need to make sure that that's communicated to the public so 384 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:46,630 that there's an understanding. And as I said, I will speak personally to both those 385 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:54,290 organizations and Levilleage to make sure that that's clear. Okay. Councillor Gardner. 386 00:40:55,210 --> 00:41:02,130 Point of order, Madame Mayor. We, the motion was passed. There's no motion on the floor. 387 00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:09,890 We're talking without having any motion and that's totally against procedure bylaws, so let's move on to our agenda. 388 00:41:10,090 --> 00:41:14,050 I'm going to recognize that's right. I'm going to recognize Councillor Gardner and then we'll move forward. 389 00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:20,910 Councillor Gardner. On the same subject of the downtown businesses. 390 00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:27,850 I'd like to know how many businesses applied for the $5,000. So that'll be coming later. 391 00:41:27,850 --> 00:41:31,410 Thank you. Madam Clerk. 392 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,740 Madam Mayor, if I may, is that the only motion that's being 393 00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:41,480 suggested on this clearly? I will move on to the next item, then. 394 00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:47,100 Tax write-offs' adjustments under communication has a recommendation that Council approve the 395 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:53,880 tax write-offs' adjustments, vacancies, under sections 357 and 364, the Municipal Act. 396 00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:01,850 moved by? Councillor Grant and Councillor Ibar, any discussion or questions on 397 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:07,160 the phone? 398 00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:15,680 I'm just trying to get a point of clarification from the, did we vote on the other two from 399 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,820 15.1? Yes, we did. We voted on the, to receive 400 00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:25,960 the report. Right, but it says that Councillor receives this report and that pitch street from 401 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,900 3rd to 1st remain open. I thought Councillor Bergman said they were good. 402 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:32,940 There were no further. Oh, did you want to make another motion? 403 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,560 I'm just trying to follow along. Right. There were no further motions after that. The only motion was to receive the report. 404 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:47,250 Therefore, the traffic remains open. Yes. Correct. 405 00:42:47,690 --> 00:42:52,010 And down to how businesses are encouraged to make use of the city's encroached one agreement. Correct. 406 00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:55,570 Okay. Sorry. Thank you. No, that's fine. 407 00:42:57,150 --> 00:42:58,270 So on the phone, 408 00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:01,230 for the tax write-offs item, 409 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:03,670 No comments. 410 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,060 Councillor Dupont. 411 00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:08,920 Are you in favour? 412 00:43:09,060 --> 00:43:09,500 I'm in favour. 413 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,100 Okay, in the room. 414 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,020 All in favour? 415 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,800 Against? 416 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,120 Carried. 417 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:28,860 Our next report is the April CPEG at 165 Montreal Road, 145 PIT, 134 Montreal Road and 711 PIT 418 00:43:28,860 --> 00:43:29,140 Street. 419 00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:37,880 And the action recommended is that Council approve the following items for 264-2200 Ontario 420 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:48,320 Inc at 165 Montreal Road, Elizabeth and Chris Nurse at 145 Pitt Street, 194-3217 Ontario 421 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:58,080 Inc at 134 Montreal Road, and 127-1450 Ontario Limited at 115 Sydney Street, Addendum for 422 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,700 Brownfield. 423 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,620 Moved by. 424 00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:06,220 Councillor Depelle, seconded by. 425 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,260 Councillor McDonald, discussion. Questions? 426 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,580 On the phone in favour. 427 00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:22,520 In the room, in favour? Against? Carried. 428 00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:29,800 Now we have our proclamation that was moved to communication. The action recommended is 429 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,540 Is that Councillor Proclaim the week of May 24th as Paramedic Services Week 2020 in the 430 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,280 City of Cornwall? 431 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,500 Moved by. Councillor McDonnell, seconded by Councillor Gardner. 432 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:42,900 Councillor McDonnell, did you want to speak? 433 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:49,360 I'd love to, Madam Mayor, because I'm pleased to note that the head of our Paramedic Services 434 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:55,380 is in the room and I hope that he will convey to all our paramedics that we are so grateful 435 00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:59,220 to them for the work they're doing and through them and 436 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:26,640 Associated with them, all the other people who are responding simply because it's their job. And to them, they're doing their job, but to us, they're performing heroic service to the community. And we're very grateful. Thank you. Any other comments from council? Councillor Gardner. Yes, Madam Mayor. Oh, really quick one. Ditto. Ditto. Okay. Councillor Bergerall, was that you? Yes. Go ahead. 437 00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:32,900 I would just like to add the report says that paramedics are important and I believe 438 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:33,760 them to be essential. 439 00:45:36,070 --> 00:45:37,170 Thank you, Councillor Bergerald. 440 00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:38,250 Councillor Depelle. 441 00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:41,260 I'm good, Madam Mayor. 442 00:45:43,410 --> 00:45:50,470 Any other comments from council? I'd just like to add Chief Lister, I know that you lost 443 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:56,230 your mother recently during this time and I spoke of it at the last council meeting but I want 444 00:45:56,230 --> 00:46:04,610 to say that in your presence, I know that it must be so difficult to lose somebody during 445 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:12,070 this time in particular and to have to grieve in a way that is not our usual process. 446 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:20,570 And all the while, continuing to provide excellent service and leadership concerning our paramedic 447 00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:26,050 service, and to all the paramedics out there, I'm sure that you know that 448 00:46:26,050 --> 00:46:33,170 Dr. Paul Ramiliyotis, our medical officer of health, has repeatedly praised all of you, 449 00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:34,170 all of the service. 450 00:46:35,170 --> 00:46:41,030 You have all worked in remarkable partnership, particularly during this COVID-19 situation. 451 00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:47,310 And so we are grateful and very proud of the work that all of you are doing. 452 00:46:47,890 --> 00:46:51,870 And it's very fitting to highlight your service during this particular week. 453 00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:53,370 So, Merci beaucoup. 454 00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:54,410 Thank you very much. 455 00:46:55,090 --> 00:46:56,230 All in favor? 456 00:46:58,660 --> 00:46:59,900 On the phone. 457 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,940 Thank you. 458 00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:01,480 Carried. 459 00:47:04,570 --> 00:47:05,950 Moving on to Tenderes, Madam Mayor. 460 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:06,510 Yes. 461 00:47:06,690 --> 00:47:13,170 Tender 23, maintenance of traffic control signals and flashers systems. 462 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:18,550 With a recommendation that this tender be awarded for a five-year period effective August first 463 00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:21,890 with an option to extend the contract for an additional two years 464 00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:25,010 to Black and McDonald limited from Ottawa, Ontario. 465 00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:35,530 at the total bid price of $2 million, $160,673 even, moved by Councillor Grant, 466 00:47:36,050 --> 00:47:40,590 seconded by Councillor Gardner. Discussion? Councillor Gardner? 467 00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:50,790 I wondered when I was looking through the report, was this company the only one that bid on 468 00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:53,870 or were there any other companies that bid on this? 469 00:47:56,310 --> 00:48:01,030 Madam CEO, through you, Madam Mayor, there was only one bid received. 470 00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:01,490 Thank you. 471 00:48:02,970 --> 00:48:04,190 Any further discussion? 472 00:48:05,290 --> 00:48:06,630 On the phone, all in favor? 473 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:09,960 In favor. 474 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,400 In the room, in favor, against, carried. 475 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,420 Purchase of transit buses through the Transit Procurement Initiative, with a recommendation 476 00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:27,520 at Council approve the purchase of two conventional buses from Nova Bus through the Metrolinx Transit 477 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,000 Procurement Initiative process. 478 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,720 Moved by Councillor Mcdonald, seconded by Councillor Venet, discussion. 479 00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:39,220 All in favour on the phone? 480 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,560 In favour. 481 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:42,920 In favour. 482 00:48:43,460 --> 00:48:44,460 In the room. 483 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:45,920 All in favour? 484 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:47,740 Carried. 485 00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:59,420 Bylaws, Madam Mayor. That bylaws 20, 26, 66 to 74 inclusive listed on the agenda are 486 00:48:59,420 --> 00:49:06,300 being presented to Council for adoption. Moved by Councillor Grant, seconded by Councillor 487 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:11,580 McDonald. All in favour? In the room favour on the phone? 488 00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:13,360 In favour. 489 00:49:15,580 --> 00:49:15,860 Carried. 490 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:22,120 And our second motion we're looking for bylaws is to approve bylaw to authorize the sale 491 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,160 of Extended Maggedded Duville and Extended Eastern Avenue. 492 00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:33,500 Moved by Councillor Mcdonald, seconded by Councillor McIntosh. 493 00:49:33,980 --> 00:49:34,540 Any discussion? 494 00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:37,980 All in favor on the phone? 495 00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:41,320 In the room? 496 00:49:42,860 --> 00:49:43,500 Carried. 497 00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:46,850 Can I ask one question? 498 00:49:47,650 --> 00:49:48,670 Go ahead, Councillor Mcdonald. 499 00:49:48,670 --> 00:49:49,150 New business. 500 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,500 We're actually right now at the reports 501 00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:55,800 from committees of council. 502 00:49:56,060 --> 00:49:58,060 Okay, I just had a motion I want to present 503 00:49:58,060 --> 00:49:58,840 on a new business. 504 00:49:59,320 --> 00:49:59,520 Okay. 505 00:50:01,060 --> 00:50:01,780 Madam Clerk. 506 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,180 So do we have any reports from committees of council? 507 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,300 Wanna do that first and then go to new business after? 508 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,720 Councilor Mack, are you okay with that? 509 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:08,960 Fine. 510 00:50:10,780 --> 00:50:12,660 So reports from committees of council 511 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:16,240 and I'll also take any questions that 512 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,220 Councillors may have about COVID-19 513 00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:20,460 and how the city is responding. 514 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:28,980 So Councillor Gardner, your question about the small business loan could happen here or any question related to how we're dealing with COVID-19. 515 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,920 So I'll start with Councillor Gardner and then Councillor Ibad and then Councillor McDonald. 516 00:50:37,330 --> 00:50:44,590 So my question is how many businesses responded to the $5,000 loan that we're giving out? 517 00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:49,300 Through you, Madam Mayor. 518 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,800 So there were 106 applications that were received. 519 00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:01,020 Council will recall that we were counting on a ballpark of about 100 applications and 520 00:51:01,020 --> 00:51:06,200 so the estimation was very close to being correct. 521 00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:15,520 We received 104 before the deadline, so 106 applications, 104 before the deadline. 522 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:26,980 There were most, I would suggest, were very good and very, very qualified for the application. 523 00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:29,940 80 of those applications have been approved. 524 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:40,140 I know Tracy Bailey and Dana McLean worked to review all of those, and those 80 will 525 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:44,460 be processed as soon as we can do that. 526 00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:50,760 There were three that were from out of town businesses, so there are some that weren't 527 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:57,180 qualifying, so three were out of town, two were non-profit organizations, and so therefore 528 00:51:57,180 --> 00:52:00,000 or, again, that was outlined as being not applicable. 529 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,220 So that leaves us with 101, one application withdrew. 530 00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:09,760 So that brings us to 100, and of course, with the two being late, 531 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,420 it brings us to the number 98. 532 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,500 But again, 80 were very quickly approved. 533 00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:24,700 They will be processed very quickly, a little bit more thought to go on the balance of the applications. 534 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:34,340 but I believe, perhaps if there's more to say, Tracy Bailey can add a bit more on the balance of the applications. 535 00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:43,700 But I think I want to thank Dana and everyone who worked on this, it was done in a pretty quick and efficient way. 536 00:52:44,020 --> 00:52:49,140 And I think hit the mark on what the businesses were looking for. 537 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:54,720 I asked the question because I spoke to a number of business owners who really were in 538 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:59,660 pretty good shape and they weren't going to be in need of that money. So that was good news. 539 00:53:00,340 --> 00:53:05,540 So thank you for the work. I know that the day that it was brought up that you said it would 540 00:53:05,540 --> 00:53:10,760 be a lot of work. And so I appreciate what you've done. You and your staff, thank you. 541 00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:18,360 Councillor Ebert and then Councillor McDonald. Thank you Madam Mayor. You allowed me to speak on 542 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,820 on the subject at our last council meetings. I just wanted to follow up at our last meeting 543 00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:29,920 I spoke about the Regional Emergency Response Council and the delivery of hampers, groceries 544 00:53:30,540 --> 00:53:35,920 to seniors or vulnerable people. That did take place over the last two weeks and I just wanted 545 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,320 to take a moment to thank the City of Cornwall and all of its staff members who stepped up 546 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:49,140 to support us. Without the city's support, we could not have accomplished such a large 547 00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:54,620 project from the staff at the Benson Centre. We basically just moved in for two weeks 548 00:53:54,620 --> 00:54:02,520 and they were really great to transit who provided us with buses to do deliveries to the 549 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:09,480 by-law staff who did deliveries as well. We also had municipal work staff and I think they 550 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,340 We might still be picking up boxes at grocery stores for us to pack these groceries in. 551 00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:19,960 And finally, I really want to thank the staff from Rachelia Daycare that were basically 552 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,140 redeployed to us for the two-week period. 553 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,920 And they were absolutely amazing. 554 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,440 And without them, I don't think we could have accomplished what we did. 555 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:36,280 They worked harder than I could have ever asked for and did it with a smile. 556 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:55,780 And I think we enjoyed every moment of it and I of course would really hope that they can get back to work as soon as possible, but if we do this project again, I'm hoping they can hold off and help us because they were really amazing and I want to just shout out to all of them to the seven ladies who are with us this whole time. 557 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:03,740 They were absolutely amazing and we set all week that, you know, we only hired the best with the City of Cornell and this was proof, they were fantastic. 558 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:14,880 So thank you to all of them, thanks to everyone, thank you to our CAO who allowed us all of this support, we certainly could not have done it without all of the city's support. 559 00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:23,080 And so all of the partners involved are quite grateful and I just wanted to take this moment to express that gratitude. 560 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,900 Thank you for that report. 561 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:32,820 I know that the CAO said that city employees were almost fighting to be able to be involved 562 00:55:32,820 --> 00:55:39,380 in this project and certainly the ones that I met and spoke to confirm that and they 563 00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:43,060 got more out of it they say than what they put into it. 564 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:49,900 So yes, kudos to all of them, to all of your volunteers and yes, remarkable work. 565 00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:54,460 We've heard, we've had emails from people who have received the hampers, 566 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,100 written letters to the editor, so they have expressed their gratitude as well. 567 00:55:59,420 --> 00:56:00,680 And it's been lovely. 568 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:01,600 Yes. 569 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,540 Good work. 570 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:03,380 Thank you. 571 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,000 Councillor Mcdonald. 572 00:56:06,020 --> 00:56:07,560 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 573 00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:14,640 I just want to give a shout out to the administrative staff of Cormon Area Housing Corporation, 574 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:23,040 because in this time when they could have locked the doors and put a sign on the window 575 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:29,000 saying, you know, call this number or whatever, because of the physical layout of the office, 576 00:56:29,240 --> 00:56:33,560 they felt they were able to keep the door unlocked so that if people came to the door, 577 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:40,460 they could actually enter the premises and not have immediate human interaction with anybody. 578 00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:48,940 But through a glass they could certainly communicate with people if they chose to use that way to pay their rent, the way they always have in person, they could do so. 579 00:56:49,460 --> 00:57:02,060 And I think it meant a lot to people because coronary housing corporation manages the households of 1,400 people in this not more than 1,400 people, 1,400 apartments. 580 00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:10,560 So, I think it's a really key action on the part of the administration to keep the doors unlocked. 581 00:57:11,460 --> 00:57:12,060 Thank you. 582 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:18,220 Any other reports, standing committees? Any questions related to COVID-19? 583 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,000 I have a question, Madam Mayor. 584 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,400 Councillor Perzor, I'll go ahead. 585 00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:29,320 It was for Mr. Wallow during his update, so I didn't think we got away from that. 586 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,240 No, that's fine. 587 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:36,820 You mentioned that you mentioned 80 applicants or roughly 80 were going to receive this. 588 00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:43,500 Were there any people who applied after the deadline that we just didn't allow? 589 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,400 Is there room to continue this moving forward if we don't set a deadline to it? 590 00:57:50,180 --> 00:57:50,720 Mr. Buello. 591 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:56,840 Is it Madam CFO then? 592 00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:02,560 Yes, through you, Madam Mayor, we haven't had the conversation yet regarding the two applications 593 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:08,540 that have come in late, there is room for them to be included in the 100. 594 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:17,440 If we go or accept applications of more than 100, we would come to council to understand 595 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,600 what that funding of those applications would look like through our brown fields reserved possibly. 596 00:58:24,220 --> 00:58:26,540 Maybe the CAO would like to comment further. 597 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,420 Mr. Ballot. 598 00:58:30,620 --> 00:58:34,540 I've been giving a little bit of thought at that as well. 599 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:42,260 I think if we're going to accept any of the late applications, I think you would perhaps 600 00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:49,380 want to give some consideration to having an opening it up a little bit for a bit of time 601 00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:54,440 because someone may have wanted to apply and didn't apply because they would have been late. 602 00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:12,800 So you may want to give some consideration to having it open for just another week or something to allow for those who wanted to and didn't get to so that you're not just giving in favor of those two applications, you may be giving in favor of 20 applications. 603 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,880 I don't know what the number would be, but it would seem to me that if I didn't apply 604 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:23,300 because I knew I was late and then you will allow those two that anyway. 605 00:59:23,780 --> 00:59:26,520 I'll just, I'll ask the CAO for comment here. 606 00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:31,900 Would this be the place for a motion to that effect if a Councillor wanted to make that 607 00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:39,080 motion about extending the deadline or determining whether we should accept those two or additional 608 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,380 time? 609 00:59:43,260 --> 00:59:43,580 Sorry. 610 00:59:43,580 --> 00:59:59,460 Thank you Madam Mayor. We could entertain a motion from Council to, if they wanted to allow us to extend the program in today's Monday, we could extend the program to end of day Friday. 611 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,880 For example, I think that like we budgeted a pretty, it was a pretty good plan that came together. So I think that if there were, it was an opportunity to open up again, we might see more applications. I don't think we would see a, I don't like it. So I know, right. So I think that it would be an amount that I would say financially and reasonably could be managed. Okay. Thank you. I'm still going to go back to Councillor virtual. 612 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,540 for comment? I do recognize that I'll turn to calling Councillor Hollingsworth in a minute. 613 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,720 Councillor Verjourn. Thank you. The point I'm trying to make 614 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,660 is look, in the report, we received a date from our economic development department. Almost 615 01:00:44,660 --> 01:00:49,240 half of the business that businesses said they applied for loans, but they didn't receive. 616 01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:54,500 Now this doesn't mean this loan. It means just in general that support they're looking 617 01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:59,040 for, they haven't received. So whatever we can do to extend that deadline 618 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,460 to make it easier, I'll make that motion today. 619 01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:09,960 I don't want to have any business in the city think that a deadline is what's preventing 620 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,900 them from surviving. 621 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,740 So what's your motion, Councillor Bursroom? 622 01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:15,760 Is it— 623 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:22,100 By the way, we just extend the deadline until the amount is exhausted, I suppose. 624 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,380 All right. 625 01:01:23,980 --> 01:01:26,700 So the amount has been exhausted, right? 626 01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:26,780 Right. 627 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,240 Had we budgeted for a hundred applications? 628 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:40,080 That is correct. So it was, it's essentially $100,000 in grant money and the balance 629 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,960 is long. So you're talking about $100,000 in a hundred approved applications. Of course 630 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:54,180 if, you know, it's a multiple of $1,000, whichever applications you approved, you approved 631 01:01:54,180 --> 01:01:54,800 going forward. 632 01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:00,400 Right. So is your motion, Councillor Bergerald, to extend the deadline to this Friday? 633 01:02:02,670 --> 01:02:04,550 Yes, that would be the meeting of the motion. 634 01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:05,190 Okay. 635 01:02:05,290 --> 01:02:06,870 And I'm a point of order again. 636 01:02:07,370 --> 01:02:07,550 Yes. 637 01:02:08,510 --> 01:02:09,130 Councillor Patten. 638 01:02:09,130 --> 01:02:13,890 This is reports from the Standing Committee. This isn't even a standing committee. 639 01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:20,170 This is, if he wants to put a new motion on, it comes under new business. 640 01:02:20,650 --> 01:02:24,190 It could come to a result of this, but this is totally out of order right now. 641 01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:31,810 So I just had a conversation with the CAO to determine whether this is a good time for this motion. 642 01:02:32,430 --> 01:02:39,550 I do want to remind people that this needs to be timely and so these funds need to go out as soon as possible. 643 01:02:40,790 --> 01:02:52,410 So I'm willing to say and agree with the CAO that we can make this motion at this time due to the emergency situation of COVID-19 and businesses needing money now. 644 01:02:54,810 --> 01:03:02,230 But I'm a procedure guy and we've got a motion that was on the boats that we would have 645 01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:10,350 to amend in order to extend both the time and the amount because with a hundred we've 646 01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:14,630 extended, we've taken all the amount that we have approved, right? 647 01:03:15,810 --> 01:03:17,230 So I'm going to accept the motion. 648 01:03:19,110 --> 01:03:24,090 I understood. So I'm going to accept the motion and see if there's a seconder, and then we can have a discussion. 649 01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:32,030 Seconder for the motion, Councillor Gardner. Did you want to speak first, or should I recognize Councillor Hollingsworth first? 650 01:03:32,610 --> 01:03:38,670 Well, I can't speak because I think it's out of order, so I'm not going to even debate this because it's totally out of order. 651 01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:40,970 Okay. Councillor Hollingsworth. 652 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:52,320 Two things, you worship, I can live with the motion, but I kind of agree with Councillor 653 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:57,880 Grant and that there's no reason why that motion couldn't have been made when we get to 654 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:07,180 new business. And just while I won't deviate, I'll hold that to later. So I can accept, the 655 01:04:07,180 --> 01:04:14,900 The one thing that I have a, maybe a question before I carry on here, currently, Mr. 656 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,740 Buello, did I understand you correctly? 657 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,640 The money that we set aside right now is spent. 658 01:04:22,820 --> 01:04:28,160 Like, we've allocated it, or we anticipate there'll be enough people who met the criteria 659 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:34,380 that all of the money that counsel currently set aside has been spent, correct? 660 01:04:34,380 --> 01:04:38,000 I think we're working through you, Madam Mayor. 661 01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:41,500 We're working through within the parameters that were described by Council. 662 01:04:42,300 --> 01:04:43,680 We're working within that budget. 663 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:56,200 If we were to go beyond a hundred applications, it is money that exceeds the motion from the last. 664 01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:04,000 Although I should indicate also though that we did indicate that we were going to 665 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:13,960 report back to council, should the applications have been much larger? In fact, that was the reason 666 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:19,900 why we gave updates from time to time to council. You know, there was a time when we wondered 667 01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:26,420 whether perhaps we were going to get 500 applications. And we would have had to come back to council. 668 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,360 Okay. Well, I'll carry on from there. Currently, did I hear you right? Did you say 80 applications? 669 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:43,000 have been approved by staff approved, which means the $500,000, I'm not sure if I completely heard you were understood you correctly. 670 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:58,320 So we have 80 applications, the $500,000 that we set aside as a budgetary item and said we're going to get some of the money back when people pay the loan and we're giving $100,000 as grant money. 671 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:04,640 Can I, like, is that $500,000 currently been used up? 672 01:06:05,020 --> 01:06:12,400 If the 80 groups all meet the criteria, are we out of money, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. 673 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,360 No, 80 applications would be $400,000. 674 01:06:17,490 --> 01:06:23,340 So we still have $100,000 left over for people who could apply from now till Friday. 675 01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:27,780 Okay, see that's where I'm not getting it. 676 01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:36,400 We have what we think to be plus or minus, up to 100 applications that could be approved. 677 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,360 But there are currently 80 that are approved. 678 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,340 Okay, so now I understand. 679 01:06:43,620 --> 01:06:51,560 Conceivably, if every the remaining ones that we haven't approved, if we said, yeah, they're all in, we are currently out of money. 680 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,960 if everybody meets the criteria based on the committee, 681 01:06:56,780 --> 01:06:59,000 the criteria the committee has in place. 682 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,060 Does that make sense? 683 01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:00,740 That is correct. 684 01:07:01,260 --> 01:07:04,780 Okay, so that being said, I guess a question back 685 01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:07,740 either to the CAO or the CFO, 686 01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:09,840 it really doesn't matter to me who answers it. 687 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,900 If we said the motion currently on the floor, 688 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,760 in order or not is debatable, but the point is, 689 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,220 if council says yeah, that's great, 690 01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:25,880 We're going to leave it open until Friday and we get ten more applications. 691 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,520 Let's use that as a number. 692 01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:29,180 Five, I don't even know. 693 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,980 But if we even get five applications conceivably, 694 01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,260 we have to try to find some money from somewhere. 695 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:36,740 Correct? 696 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:38,680 Madam CEO. 697 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:40,900 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 698 01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:48,420 So if we, I would recommend if Council wanted to consider extending the deadline 699 01:07:48,420 --> 01:07:55,320 to this Friday, then what we would do is with the deadline ending on Friday, that would 700 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:03,600 likely allow staff to get through all of those applications the week following, and then 701 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:09,140 although we might not have a report ready quite when we published the agenda, we should 702 01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:13,040 be able to have a report that we could add to a published agenda either at the end of the 703 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:19,960 week or walk on the next council agenda with financial implications and then council 704 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:27,540 can decide if they wanted to, they could decide how they wanted to take a look at funding 705 01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:28,320 those applications. 706 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,260 Well, they want to fund it the same way we have for the first 100. 707 01:08:32,820 --> 01:08:33,060 Okay. 708 01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:37,600 So perhaps Madam CAO, you can reconcile my dilemma. 709 01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:54,420 I'm going to make a vote in favor of a motion, or we, as a council, could conceivably vote in favor of a motion to extend the deadline, but we haven't determined where the money is going to come from at the moment that we, in fact, support the motion. 710 01:08:54,980 --> 01:09:05,840 Is that not kind of backwards to the how we have historically done, and I realize there's a pandemic, but you don't throw all the rules out the window and say, well, let's just kind of, 711 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:19,480 I think there needs to be at least some structured figuring out, I mean, we're talking about taxpayers' money, and I'm not saying that I want to see businesses go broke, but I think we still have to figure out what we're doing. 712 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:32,480 So how do we reconcile supporting a motion when we as a council, along with senior admin, have not determined where we're getting the money from currently? 713 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:50,300 And further to that, I don't think it's fair to say, hey, we've got this program apply for it, and then it's possible that the council council might say, gee, we really don't know where we're going to get the money, so we're not going to extend it. 714 01:09:50,380 --> 01:09:58,300 We extended the program, but so how do we reconcile what we traditionally do with what's going on right now with this motion? 715 01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:59,120 Madam Sue. 716 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,900 That's for you, Madam Mayor. 717 01:10:01,620 --> 01:10:09,460 So based on the activity that we saw from the previous program, I think that maybe on 718 01:10:09,460 --> 01:10:15,080 an upside potential, maybe we might get 50 applications, we extended the deadline to Friday, 719 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:15,520 maybe. 720 01:10:16,540 --> 01:10:27,660 Whether or not they'd all qualify, with respect to the $1,000 grant component that would become 721 01:10:27,660 --> 01:10:43,260 a budgetary item that would fall in the same process for the first 100, so instead of budgeting 50,000, one year and 50,000 the other year, we would end up budgeting 75,000 in each of those years. 722 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:49,660 There is sufficient funds within the Brownfield Reserve. 723 01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:55,980 If council felt that that reserve was going to get too low with a report that we brought back to council 724 01:10:57,220 --> 01:11:02,400 There are other reserves that we have on our on our balance sheet, right? So again 725 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:08,980 It's back to council as far as funding it from reserve. I think that through the CFO 726 01:11:08,980 --> 01:11:16,180 She can come back with a recommendation for council and the question would be with those additional applications. Do you want to add another 727 01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:23,960 other $25,000 to 2021 and 2022 to allow another 50 applications. 728 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,300 Well, then perhaps a quick comment if I might your worship. 729 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:39,860 Certainly recognizing we're in extending circumstances and nobody wants to see businesses go down the tubes because of something that we could conceivably do to help them. 730 01:11:39,860 --> 01:11:46,300 I'll, in fact, support the motion, but quite frankly, I am really, really not particularly 731 01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,760 comfortable with the way this is playing itself out. 732 01:11:50,620 --> 01:11:57,800 That being said, moving forward, I probably won't support any other motions that kind of 733 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:04,540 plunge in headlong when I'm not completely clear as to how we're going to manage it, particularly 734 01:12:04,540 --> 01:12:06,500 when it comes to taxpayers' dollars. 735 01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:12,120 and while I'm not the, I don't want to be the big heavy here, but I think I'm not, 736 01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:18,140 I don't like the idea of, we have rules in place, we have procedures in place because 737 01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:26,200 our responsibility is to safeguard the public purse even in times of dire straits. 738 01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:33,680 So I'll support this one, but moving forward, I'll have my reservations make no mistake 739 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,340 about that. 740 01:12:34,660 --> 01:12:34,980 Thank you. 741 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,780 Any other comments? Councilor McIntosh. 742 01:12:40,060 --> 01:12:44,800 Does anybody have any turn down not qualified the application to receive receipt? 743 01:12:49,340 --> 01:12:54,900 Through you Madam Mayor, we approved 80 and the ones that did not qualify as Mr. 744 01:12:55,180 --> 01:13:01,800 Bwalo mentioned were based on the criteria of the program whether it be out of town or not for profit. 745 01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:05,160 The others were waiting further information. 746 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:10,000 information, it could be that if we don't receive that information, they wouldn't qualify. 747 01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:12,100 But if we do, we suspect they will qualify. 748 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,640 What's the deadline for that information? 749 01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:25,880 That was sent out to them at the end of last week and today, so normally we ask for a 48-hour 750 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,240 turnaround. 751 01:13:27,620 --> 01:13:29,680 I would think any day. 752 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,980 Madam CEO. 753 01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:33,580 Through you, Madam Mayor. 754 01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:40,480 maybe I could suggest we have 80 applications that have been approved and I would anticipate 755 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:45,280 that those applications could be funded this week provided that agreements get signed 756 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:50,060 and I think we can work very quickly through that. What we could do too is we could bring 757 01:13:50,060 --> 01:13:56,460 a report back at the next council meeting with the 20 or so remaining applications that we 758 01:13:56,460 --> 01:14:00,220 might need more information on. We might be able to come back to council and identify 759 01:14:00,220 --> 01:14:02,960 by out of those ones that we need digital information, 760 01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,980 how many have been successful as far as the criteria goes, 761 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:10,580 or if there's some that we think do not qualify, 762 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,740 there might be some money that does not spend. 763 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,820 We could bring back other information in the report 764 01:14:15,820 --> 01:14:18,600 to speak to what types of businesses 765 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,980 or sectors benefited from it. 766 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,520 So we could bring back a report, have the financial information, 767 01:14:25,740 --> 01:14:29,400 and at that point in time, if Council wanted to do around two, 768 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:35,100 for example, and if you wanted to add money to it or you wanted to just allow the money 769 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:41,920 that's still remaining to get used until applications for as long as it takes for applications 770 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,040 to use up those funds, we can come back with that information. 771 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,520 That sounds like a good idea. 772 01:14:50,590 --> 01:14:51,350 Any further comment? 773 01:14:52,770 --> 01:14:53,530 Madam Mayor. 774 01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:56,510 Yes, Councillor Jepell and then Councillor Gardner. 775 01:14:56,750 --> 01:14:57,230 Councillor Jepell. 776 01:14:58,510 --> 01:14:59,910 Yeah, I would prefer to 777 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:26,360 We're doing the option that this item is just presented because I was going to speak in regards to the same lines of Councillor Hawing's words. Why this just wouldn't go as a new business motion. And then as a new business motion, you have what's being asked and right now we're sort of like have the curb before the horse. So I would much more appreciate what Miss Adams has just said so that it's clear and transparent that our next meeting. 778 01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:30,960 Thank you. Councillor Gardner. 779 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:31,840 Well, 780 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,320 here's one time when I agree with Councillor Burser on. 781 01:15:38,380 --> 01:15:43,920 Earlier on, Councillor Burser, I'll talk about this business that we can save. 782 01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:50,280 At the end of the day, if we can save two or three more businesses, by giving them 783 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,140 a loan, and that's the key word, it's a loan. 784 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,420 That money isn't given away, it's a loan. 785 01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:01,480 So yeah, that's why I seconded the motion because if we can save two, three, five businesses, 786 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:10,440 is that's what I want to do and policy be done. The policies are there to guide us, 787 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:18,760 not to restrict us. So in this case here, I agree with Councillor Berserot and I seconded 788 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:24,360 the motion because I want to see this pass. Thank you. Madam CEO, did you want to comment 789 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,680 in response to Councillor McIntosh and Councillor Depelle 790 01:16:32,910 --> 01:16:35,090 with respect to bringing back her 791 01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:42,090 report, and whether that's in contradiction with having an extension until this Friday 792 01:16:42,090 --> 01:16:42,890 for applications. 793 01:16:45,070 --> 01:16:53,690 I think that when we originally brought forward the program to Council, what we had also 794 01:16:53,690 --> 01:17:00,910 recommended in that process was to allow administration to review those applications. 795 01:17:00,910 --> 01:17:08,130 And by doing so very quickly, we were hoping that we'd be able to get funds out before the end of May. 796 01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:11,890 And so I'm going to say that that has been successful. 797 01:17:12,290 --> 01:17:13,390 We're going to be able to do that. 798 01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:23,770 We also said that we would bring back a report to council with information so they understood how that program worked out. 799 01:17:23,770 --> 01:17:32,170 So we do all report to council the remaining, some of the remaining applications are up to the 80 were approved today. 800 01:17:32,350 --> 01:17:39,510 I know that Mrs. Bailey and Ms. McLean met today to continue to work through those applications. 801 01:17:40,110 --> 01:17:42,710 So that is the update as of this evening. 802 01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:46,350 I think that we'll be through it before the end of the week. 803 01:17:46,350 --> 01:17:54,770 It's really, if Council would like to, and I think if people were struggling to make 804 01:17:54,770 --> 01:17:59,270 the deadline for applications, if the community knows that Council might be reconsidering 805 01:17:59,270 --> 01:18:06,030 opening up the deadline or doing a round two, then we can get a report ready to come back 806 01:18:06,030 --> 01:18:10,910 at the next Council meeting, and we could, I think, now that we've been through the program 807 01:18:10,910 --> 01:18:16,210 as well, we can probably work through that process, again, pretty quickly, a second time 808 01:18:16,210 --> 01:18:23,670 around. So it's really up to a council to make the decision. I don't think that so from 809 01:18:23,670 --> 01:18:31,070 a budgeting perspective it is not all loaned by the way. Each application is for $5,000 810 01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:39,110 and of that $5,000, $1,000 of the loan is forgivable or essentially in the form of a grant. 811 01:18:44,170 --> 01:18:46,190 I'm not sure 812 01:18:46,190 --> 01:18:47,650 Thank you, Councillor Vennet. 813 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:50,210 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 814 01:18:51,690 --> 01:18:56,670 I'm hearing both sides of the argument here and I get both sides so I maybe like to propose 815 01:18:56,670 --> 01:18:59,310 a bit of a compromise, if it's possible. 816 01:19:00,150 --> 01:19:07,370 Why don't we, if it's possible to extend the deadline to Friday, but to only gauge the 817 01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:11,970 interest in extending in the long going forward? 818 01:19:12,450 --> 01:19:22,970 And then at the next council meeting, administration will come to us and say five people will, five people in that week applied, so if you want to move forward, this is what's going to cost, this is how we're going to fund it. 819 01:19:24,610 --> 01:19:31,470 Rather than skip past policies and we're not shutting it down, we'll just have a better idea what we're talking about in two weeks time. 820 01:19:31,770 --> 01:19:40,310 So I don't know if the original mover, how he feels about that, but I think a compromise at the very least would answer a lot of the questions that are being asked. 821 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,180 Councillor Berserot? 822 01:19:45,740 --> 01:19:50,720 As far as I understand, we have not exhausted all the funds that we have already said aside, 823 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,620 which is the purpose of this motion. One in six businesses are already saying they're 824 01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:57,560 going to close another two weeks and two months. 825 01:20:04,270 --> 01:20:06,010 Councillor Bennett, do you have any response? 826 01:20:07,150 --> 01:20:12,190 It's my understanding that with the applications that we still need to be gone through, that the 827 01:20:12,190 --> 01:20:13,430 money could very well be all spent. 828 01:20:14,410 --> 01:20:23,790 So if we're going to ask for more money, then perhaps we should just open it up to gauge the interest. 829 01:20:24,430 --> 01:20:30,930 And at the next meeting we'll know exactly how much more than the 500,000 we're going to need to deal with. 830 01:20:32,270 --> 01:20:33,630 Thank you, Councillor Grant. 831 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:46,540 I'm trying to keep my cool because we're talking about policies that has, 832 01:20:46,540 --> 01:20:51,180 As there's no such thing as a policy, it's procedural bylaws. 833 01:20:51,870 --> 01:20:57,120 We have a motion on the books that says these are the criteria. 834 01:20:57,980 --> 01:21:04,600 If we want to change that, we put an amendment to that, with specifics to give direction 835 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,960 to administration, where the money's coming from, etc. 836 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,000 I don't like any of this are against helping the business people. 837 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,320 But we've got a procedure by law here that we have to follow. 838 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,180 We can't just, someday, well, we'll follow it in the next day we want. 839 01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:27,460 The clerk is the one that should be giving us guidance on this as far as the procedures go. 840 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,060 And there's something should have been directed toward her. 841 01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:35,280 She's the one to ensure that the procedures are followed. 842 01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:38,820 We have to follow those procedures or change them. 843 01:21:38,820 --> 01:21:46,520 So the reason I would speak on this, if we followed the proper procedures, we aren't. 844 01:21:46,860 --> 01:21:48,720 And therefore it is at a border. 845 01:21:49,460 --> 01:21:54,600 And the clerk, in my estimation, should be indicating that with somebody asked. 846 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,480 I turn to the CAO. 847 01:22:02,210 --> 01:22:03,230 Thank you, Madam Mayor. 848 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:08,750 So I'm going to acknowledge Councillor Grants' comments and I think you're right. 849 01:22:08,750 --> 01:22:15,910 And I think that the discussion opened up to talk about this program and there was always 850 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:21,190 talk, if we go back several weeks ago, there was always talk about what is the right amount 851 01:22:21,190 --> 01:22:21,590 of money. 852 01:22:22,130 --> 01:22:27,710 So initially when the motion was to allow the deadline to extend to use up the utilization 853 01:22:27,710 --> 01:22:37,410 of those funds, I think that all I'm trying to do is trying to help council continue with 854 01:22:37,410 --> 01:22:39,490 that program if Council would like to. 855 01:22:39,870 --> 01:22:42,650 It is pretty straightforward for administration, 856 01:22:43,210 --> 01:22:47,010 just to have a report to come back in two weeks. 857 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:50,550 Most of the applications will get funded this week. 858 01:22:50,770 --> 01:22:53,030 We turn the program around pretty quickly. 859 01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:56,410 I don't believe a two week delay would really 860 01:22:57,770 --> 01:22:58,850 change the world. 861 01:22:59,570 --> 01:23:02,250 So that's just my comments if we want to refer it back 862 01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:02,750 to the clerk. 863 01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:04,990 I think the clerk would agree with you, Councillor Grant. 864 01:23:04,990 --> 01:23:09,770 the way the motion has been kind of moved around and now it's turning into 865 01:23:09,770 --> 01:23:16,030 additional funding. I would agree that procedurally it's moving in a 866 01:23:16,030 --> 01:23:22,690 direction that I don't believe was originally how the discussion started. It 867 01:23:22,690 --> 01:23:28,630 started as an update on the program. You don't mind the name there? Councillor 868 01:23:28,630 --> 01:23:33,910 Grant? I think that's a good way of doing it. We're waiting for a report back and 869 01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:36,630 And that was I think part of the discussion at the time. 870 01:23:37,550 --> 01:23:39,350 Is there an urgency in this? 871 01:23:39,810 --> 01:23:46,030 I don't think there is, but I'd be open if the report comes back to help businesses. 872 01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:47,950 I don't think anybody's arguing that. 873 01:23:48,350 --> 01:23:49,370 Let's follow procedures. 874 01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:50,250 That's all I'm saying. 875 01:23:51,850 --> 01:23:55,190 Any further comment on this before I turn to- 876 01:23:55,190 --> 01:23:55,810 Not away. 877 01:23:56,330 --> 01:24:00,170 Before I turn to Councillor Berserot, any further comment from any other Councillor? 878 01:24:00,170 --> 01:24:00,610 So, 879 01:24:03,480 --> 01:24:11,900 I will agree with Madam CIO, I think that we're saying the same thing. 880 01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:15,720 We're all saying the same thing. 881 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,060 We all want to support businesses. 882 01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:25,540 The extension of the deadline to Friday just makes sense because we're still in this 883 01:24:25,540 --> 01:24:30,120 period of time where we're asking businesses if they need our support. 884 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:38,880 So, it's logical to extend that to May 15th or May 29th. 885 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:46,460 So, my understanding of the motion is that we're going to extend the deadline to this Friday, 886 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:52,020 and that the CAO has indicated that administration will report back. 887 01:24:52,580 --> 01:24:58,040 Administration told us the first time that they presented this program, that they would close it, 888 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:04,740 give a deadline and then come back to talk to us about further applications or further 889 01:25:04,740 --> 01:25:11,940 uptake. So this is not a surprising conversation that we're having now. So to me, it's the 890 01:25:11,940 --> 01:25:18,060 same thing. And the other point that I want to make is we do have to proceed quickly and 891 01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:22,740 we don't want to be confusing there for the public. So the public knows that we've had 892 01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:28,680 this deadline if we extended this week and then come back to council with a report as to 893 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:34,320 how many applications came in after that date, how to deal with the two that were late, 894 01:25:34,740 --> 01:25:39,680 and then we'll have information as to what impact that's going to have on our brown field 895 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:46,200 reserve. I'm comfortable with this motion as it is. I'm comfortable that it makes sense 896 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:51,640 from a time flow and I'm comfortable that we will get the information that we need so that 897 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:57,940 But we continue to make responsible decisions as we have been throughout this entire pandemic. 898 01:26:00,180 --> 01:26:00,860 Councillor Berserot. 899 01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:04,180 Yes, thank you, Madam Mayor. 900 01:26:05,620 --> 01:26:14,760 I'm actually closer to Councillor Grant's general philosophy than maybe, maybe foresee. 901 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,640 If this motion is out of order, I will withdraw. 902 01:26:18,020 --> 01:26:19,340 But I will heard that. 903 01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:27,580 What I understand, look, our businesses, one in six are closing right now, and time 904 01:26:27,580 --> 01:26:28,440 to move is right now. 905 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:34,260 If it needs to be a new business motion, instead of as per this conversation, so be it, 906 01:26:34,380 --> 01:26:35,140 I'll make the motion. 907 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,160 No problem. 908 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:42,000 But two weeks from now, we're talking about other businesses who need this money already 909 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:42,640 being closed. 910 01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:45,880 And that to me, in the state of emergency, is just unacceptable. 911 01:26:45,880 --> 01:27:01,300 So if the motion is out of order, have no problem with it, but it's a great example of how bureaucracy and process may be having a very, very serious impact on the businesses in our community. 912 01:27:04,340 --> 01:27:05,740 So I'm going to call for the vote. 913 01:27:08,740 --> 01:27:09,300 Madam Clerk, 914 01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:19,240 the motion is to extend the deadline for the municipal grants about applications to Friday, May 29th. 915 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,400 On the phone, in favour? 916 01:27:26,580 --> 01:27:27,420 In favour? 917 01:27:27,940 --> 01:27:29,300 Councillor Vergil, against? 918 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:32,900 Councillor Depelle? 919 01:27:34,780 --> 01:27:39,760 I'm in favour because of the business, but I would have liked to see it as a new business 920 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,740 motion, but I don't want to vote against extending the deadline, so in favour? 921 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:45,380 Understood, Councillor Depelle. 922 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,360 In the room, in favour? 923 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:50,360 Against? 924 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,320 Madam Clerk, about that? 925 01:27:55,780 --> 01:27:56,060 Carried. 926 01:27:58,650 --> 01:27:59,770 Thank you all for your patience. 927 01:27:59,770 --> 01:27:59,970 questions. 928 01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:04,900 Any other reports from committees of council? 929 01:28:09,140 --> 01:28:15,360 Councillor Grant. I just wanted to as part of the board of 930 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:25,800 management at the lodge, talk about how well that place has been run and that we tested 931 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:32,620 all the employees and the residents and everything come back negative and I think it's really 932 01:28:32,620 --> 01:28:41,260 do to the efficiency of the employees in that place and how well they started monitoring 933 01:28:41,260 --> 01:28:44,400 everybody who was going in as well as the employees. 934 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:51,820 So, you know, the lodge we run this, so I know our committee of management, the team, 935 01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:59,120 is really, really proud of what has taken place there and I think most of us have given 936 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,600 and Steven Kudos for that then a general manager. 937 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:08,340 So I just want to talk about very good positive relationships there. 938 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,480 Thank you. 939 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,800 Who else sits with you on the committee of management? 940 01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:15,320 Do either of you want to comment? 941 01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:31,470 Mike, I second Cal State Grants comments and I'd also commend the city administration because with redeploying employees 942 01:29:31,470 --> 01:29:36,450 to places where they might be needed if they can't do their usual work. 943 01:29:36,650 --> 01:29:42,150 I think that helped sustain the system and get us the track record we've got there. 944 01:29:42,710 --> 01:29:46,050 And it's wonderful that the employees from parks and rec, for example, 945 01:29:46,110 --> 01:29:49,390 would pick up a broom and sweep a floric, then start on lodge. 946 01:29:50,270 --> 01:29:51,550 So good all around. 947 01:29:52,150 --> 01:29:52,450 Thank you. 948 01:29:52,810 --> 01:29:53,370 Councillor McIntosh? 949 01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:56,190 Not just the lodge, the entire city. 950 01:29:56,190 --> 01:29:59,970 we've had 15 cases since March 12th. 951 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,380 There's nothing. Prescott Russell has probably put 125, SDNG 22. We have no deaths. We're really unique. I understand Kingston also is in the same position, but we've been so fortunate here and it goes back to the screening process. Not only in the lodge, but I think all the facilities that have seniors. Madam CEO, did you want to add any comments? I know you've worked closely with Mr. Golden throughout this period of time. Thank you, Madam Mayor. 952 01:30:29,380 --> 01:30:34,440 Yes, I would really like to commend the employees of the Glenn Stern and Lodge. 953 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,500 I think that the protocols that they had in place certainly have paid off. 954 01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:44,840 I also think that there's truly a commitment amongst the employees to make sure that they're screening themselves. 955 01:30:45,820 --> 01:30:50,780 And they're coming to work healthy, absolutely with the residents health and 956 01:30:50,780 --> 01:30:58,880 So I think that I would echo those comments as far as the city overall. 957 01:30:59,220 --> 01:31:02,060 Yes, I think we have been fortunate. 958 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:09,280 I do think very early on there was a lot more awareness in our community, 959 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:16,100 maybe partially because of the passengers from one of the cruise ships that stayed at the nav center. 960 01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:23,340 But I think between communication, our first responders, Dr. Paul, I also would like to recognize 961 01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:26,020 the mayor with much communication. 962 01:31:26,900 --> 01:31:33,340 Emma Meldrum also is sitting us with getting stuff out in the media on the website, looking 963 01:31:33,340 --> 01:31:34,300 at signage. 964 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:39,820 I think we tried to do as much as we could to try and promote physical distancing, social 965 01:31:39,820 --> 01:31:40,340 distancing. 966 01:31:40,340 --> 01:31:46,580 seen, so I'm hoping that that is paid off for certainly for our community and our long-term 967 01:31:46,580 --> 01:31:48,700 care residents. So thank you. 968 01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:55,480 No, thank you for those comments. Glenn Stortenlaunch has been priority from day one. So thank 969 01:31:55,480 --> 01:32:00,160 you, Councillor Grant, for bringing that up and allowing us to properly thank all of the 970 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,760 staff at Glenn Stortenlaunch. 971 01:32:03,940 --> 01:32:04,460 Madam Clerk. 972 01:32:06,910 --> 01:32:10,950 Madam Mayor, we skipped over a new business that was at the bottom of the page just before 973 01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:17,690 the bylaws. Yes. If we could do that now. Go ahead. Are there any new business motions? 974 01:32:18,630 --> 01:32:25,350 Councillor McIntosh. I have one. I want just to preface it. These have certainly been 975 01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:31,350 extraordinary times. Our lives have been turned upside down. Here we are meeting in the complex 976 01:32:31,350 --> 01:32:41,150 way from home. We become orphans. You know, I've watched the leadership of both 977 01:32:41,150 --> 01:32:45,430 Federal and Provincially, and I am amazed and marvel how everybody's come 978 01:32:45,430 --> 01:32:51,490 together on like south of the border. You know, good teams, professional teams have 979 01:32:51,490 --> 01:32:57,650 built from the top to the bottom. And I think we've been fortunate here to have a 980 01:32:57,650 --> 01:33:00,410 a team that's well built from the top to the bottom. 981 01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:03,770 And with that, I'd like to present this motion 982 01:33:03,770 --> 01:33:06,090 that council gives to all marine atoms 983 01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:08,130 and our senior management team 984 01:33:08,130 --> 01:33:09,830 a vote of confidence for their leadership 985 01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:13,790 and dedication during COVID-19 crisis. 986 01:33:14,350 --> 01:33:16,130 Is there a seconder for that motion? 987 01:33:16,730 --> 01:33:19,350 Councilor Elaine McDonald, any further discussion? 988 01:33:21,370 --> 01:33:21,930 Comments? 989 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:27,620 You said it all. 990 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:28,520 What about on the phone? 991 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:29,960 Councilor Depelle and Councilor Bersroom? 992 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:38,210 Yes, sir. Can you reread with the New Jersey City Council? 993 01:33:38,430 --> 01:33:43,970 Councillor McIntosh. Second take. That council give CAO Marine 994 01:33:43,970 --> 01:33:48,290 Adams and her senior management team a vote of confidence for their leadership and dedication 995 01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:50,370 during the COVID-19 crisis. 996 01:33:52,670 --> 01:33:54,490 And it was seconded by Councillor Elaine McDonald. 997 01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:56,750 Councillor Dupel. 998 01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:02,270 I just think it's great as Miss Adams has 999 01:34:02,270 --> 01:34:10,810 I think it goes right across the board to all our employees across the city, but certainly 1000 01:34:10,810 --> 01:34:17,190 I have been very pleased to see the leadership from Miss Adam, from yourself Madam Mayor, 1001 01:34:17,890 --> 01:34:23,370 and the communication has all been wonderful and I fully support the motion. 1002 01:34:24,050 --> 01:34:30,250 And would like if the mover, if the mover of the motion wouldn't be offended if we include 1003 01:34:30,250 --> 01:34:33,930 all employees in the corporation of the city because it certainly has been a team effort 1004 01:34:33,930 --> 01:34:34,650 all the way around. 1005 01:34:35,710 --> 01:34:36,670 Councillor Mackintosh. 1006 01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:37,290 Not at all. 1007 01:34:37,530 --> 01:34:37,770 Thank you. 1008 01:34:38,290 --> 01:34:38,670 Morse. 1009 01:34:38,890 --> 01:34:42,890 So that is a friendly amendment, Madam Clerk, and has been accepted. 1010 01:34:43,670 --> 01:34:45,210 As such, any further discussion? 1011 01:34:46,930 --> 01:34:47,150 Yes. 1012 01:34:47,650 --> 01:34:47,970 Oh. 1013 01:34:48,170 --> 01:34:48,770 Councillor Berserot. 1014 01:34:49,970 --> 01:34:56,870 I just don't understand why we would make this motion, I'm happy to support it. 1015 01:34:57,290 --> 01:35:04,850 It just seems, you know, I think the CAO, I think you, Madam Mayor, I think Dr. Paula evolved on a great job. 1016 01:35:05,710 --> 01:35:09,750 I just, I don't really understand why this would be a new business motion. 1017 01:35:10,030 --> 01:35:10,950 I will support it. Hello. 1018 01:35:16,010 --> 01:35:16,670 Madam Clerk. 1019 01:35:17,970 --> 01:35:20,010 As a new business motion, this is appropriate. 1020 01:35:21,730 --> 01:35:22,810 Yes, it is Madam Mayor. 1021 01:35:23,770 --> 01:35:35,580 I will wholeheartedly support this motion and I don't want to start tripping up on all 1022 01:35:35,580 --> 01:35:44,100 kinds of particular rules that are going to prevent us from having appropriate conversation 1023 01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:44,940 during a pandemic. 1024 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:52,640 And during a pandemic, it's a good idea to react quickly to make sure that vulnerable people 1025 01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,860 are being cared for, that small businesses are being cared for, and also that city leadership 1026 01:35:56,860 --> 01:36:03,180 is also being cared for and recognize publicly. This is a pandemic, and this kind of conversation 1027 01:36:03,180 --> 01:36:09,520 is perfectly appropriate. So we thank you, Madam CAO, and the senior management team, and 1028 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:14,300 all the city of Cornwall employees. Thank you. I'm going to call for a vote. 1029 01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:17,260 Councillor 1030 01:36:17,260 --> 01:36:24,080 Grant, did you want to add any comment? I think that we should recognize the unions as 1031 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:31,960 well because, of course, if we're going from one area to the other and my understanding 1032 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:38,700 is, there's been very little, the labor relations have been very good so I think the unions 1033 01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:44,400 have a part to play in that as well and so I think they should be acknowledged as well. 1034 01:36:44,860 --> 01:36:51,200 From day one, union leadership has worked in partnership, recognizing the emergency situation 1035 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:56,800 and recognizing that everybody had to come to the table to do good for residents. 1036 01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,000 All in favor of this motion? 1037 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:01,400 Against? 1038 01:37:01,780 --> 01:37:02,400 In favor. 1039 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:03,640 Thank you. 1040 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,660 Thank you, carried. 1041 01:37:07,340 --> 01:37:07,880 Madam Clerk. 1042 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,460 We have one notice of motion. 1043 01:37:11,700 --> 01:37:13,040 Limit on new business motions. 1044 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,860 Whereas currently there is no limit on the number of notices of motion and 1045 01:37:17,860 --> 01:37:23,760 new business motions for submitting at a regular council meeting by a Councillor and no deadline. 1046 01:37:24,340 --> 01:37:31,280 Therefore, be it resolved that each Councillor be limited to a maximum of two notices of motion and new business motions combined, 1047 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,100 presented at a regular council meeting. 1048 01:37:34,700 --> 01:37:41,600 Therefore, be it further resolved that each notice of motion and new business motion shall have a seconder prior to submitting it to the clerk. 1049 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:59,120 Therefore, be it further resolved that notices of motion and new business motions shall be delivered to the clerk no later than 12 noon on the Tuesday preceding the date of the intended regular scheduled council meeting so that it may be included as part of the agenda package and so that proper notice can be given to the public. 1050 01:38:01,370 --> 01:38:02,610 The seconder is? 1051 01:38:03,970 --> 01:38:07,730 It is moved by Councillors Claude McIntosh and Sig Garner. 1052 01:38:08,270 --> 01:38:10,570 Thank you, so that will be debated at the next council meeting. 1053 01:38:10,570 --> 01:38:14,650 That is correct. Thank you. Next item. 1054 01:38:16,230 --> 01:38:21,390 The pending business listing for May 25th is being presented to Council to be received. 1055 01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:28,650 Moved by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Mcdonald. All in favour? Oh, Councillor 1056 01:38:28,650 --> 01:38:37,530 Bennett? Yes? Sorry, Madam Mayor. I just have a question about only because there's 1057 01:38:37,530 --> 01:38:51,070 There's light up on here that has a 2B determined date on it, but it may be very relevant to what we're going through with our downtown Lavalaj areas, which is the place making, which was kind of an idea that was designed to get people into our downtown, our Lavalaj areas. 1058 01:38:52,370 --> 01:39:07,290 I would think that the BIAs would probably be interested in this as well, so I know you have a lot on your plate, and I know you're doing a lot of things, but I just want to make sure that this is an idea that might help us in attracting people back to our downtowns, 1059 01:39:07,290 --> 01:39:20,710 and things started to loosen up a little bit, and I just didn't want it to get lost in the new business listing because of everything else we're dealing with, which is a lot, but I think this is something that would stand out that may be a big help to both those areas. 1060 01:39:21,390 --> 01:39:26,770 I'll just turn to Madam CEO for a comment or Mr. Bollo, I'll leave it to you Madam CEO. 1061 01:39:27,330 --> 01:39:31,070 Thank you Madam Mayor, maybe I'll put in a couple of comments and Mr. Bollo could comment. 1062 01:39:31,070 --> 01:39:45,670 So we have moved this list around in dates quite a bit, trying to, I think, try and prioritize items with respect to things that need to kind of get going sooner and also understanding council's priorities. 1063 01:39:46,430 --> 01:40:00,550 With respect to that item, I believe that prior to the pandemic following that presentation a council, I believe that there have been some discussions and administration has been 1064 01:40:00,550 --> 01:40:12,010 And looking at opportunities for that, I do think that there's an opportunity for a report to come back to council relatively soon, but I'm going to hand it over to Mr. 1065 01:40:12,170 --> 01:40:15,610 Buello to see if he wanted to add any comments. 1066 01:40:16,190 --> 01:40:25,570 So Mr. Buello, just to recap, we were looking at the unfinished business list and Councillor Bennett brought up the place making item. 1067 01:40:25,570 --> 01:40:32,770 and maybe asking about whether that could inform some of the work that's being done now for a downtown. 1068 01:40:34,850 --> 01:40:44,930 So through you, Madam Mayor, the place making I believe is very much in line with what we're talking about today, 1069 01:40:45,810 --> 01:40:53,390 especially with respect to the pedestrian space that we have in the downtown and making better use of it. 1070 01:40:53,390 --> 01:41:02,710 But I think the request that came to us was looking at things like activity within parking spaces, 1071 01:41:03,290 --> 01:41:08,210 activity perhaps on pedestrian surfaces within the courtyards. 1072 01:41:08,970 --> 01:41:14,150 And I really think that that's one of the things that we're fortunate to have in the downtown. 1073 01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:20,030 Not only do we have what we have in the right of way, but 1074 01:41:20,030 --> 01:41:26,150 But we also, in fact, also in each of the blocks, have courtyard space that I think is very useful. 1075 01:41:26,910 --> 01:41:34,970 So I recall as well, there was a conversation in the place making request, which was to look at our intersections and 1076 01:41:34,970 --> 01:41:37,110 what we may be able to do in that respect. 1077 01:41:37,810 --> 01:41:46,630 So this is really a sort of a concerted effort between infrastructure as well as our area. 1078 01:41:46,630 --> 01:41:51,490 to look at how we can make better use of the space that we have. 1079 01:41:51,490 --> 01:41:57,930 We have a unique downtown, and I think we can, you know, as I said in the report, 1080 01:41:58,610 --> 01:42:05,630 we can do a better job of trying to get people to realize that they can make better use of the outdoor space. 1081 01:42:06,090 --> 01:42:11,670 We're in an unusual time right now where, you know, if you have a thousand square feet, 1082 01:42:12,350 --> 01:42:22,690 and really, quite honestly, if you have a thousand square feet, you probably only have about three, four, five hundred square feet of net space, and that is, you take all the shelving away. 1083 01:42:23,330 --> 01:42:33,990 So, a lot of the retailers downtown, I think, as much as we think the restaurants want to make use of this space, I think retail is going to not have enough space. 1084 01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:39,750 So, I think it's also the retail that needs to look at opportunities in the outdoors. 1085 01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:48,850 We're starting to get some inquiries for that, but I do want the businesses out there 1086 01:42:48,850 --> 01:42:50,950 to know that we're happy to work with them. 1087 01:42:51,950 --> 01:42:59,990 And if it's the $370 application fee, we'll bring a report to council to say that apparently 1088 01:42:59,990 --> 01:43:23,950 that's an obstacle. And if it's a little bit more assistance with how to get through the application and all of that, we're happy to do that. I would like to, I was involved with in 91 with the creation of how that happened together, of course, I was a young planner back in the day, but we had expectations that people would make very good use of that space. 1089 01:43:23,950 --> 01:43:37,090 I would say that, you know, again, if you look at the report, it's unfortunate in some cases that the nature of the use that is adjacent to open space, it doesn't match always. 1090 01:43:37,730 --> 01:43:48,130 And you can't figure that out when you're trying to design a road and imagine what may occur next to a larger bump out. 1091 01:43:48,130 --> 01:43:56,230 So anyway, so I just, in conclusion, I think we're happy to bring more information about 1092 01:43:56,230 --> 01:44:00,590 place making, both from our department as well as municipal works and infrastructure. 1093 01:44:02,090 --> 01:44:07,570 We're having the conversation now in the reports that we're bringing to you exactly on that 1094 01:44:07,570 --> 01:44:07,910 subject. 1095 01:44:09,470 --> 01:44:09,990 Perfect. 1096 01:44:10,930 --> 01:44:11,650 Thank you. 1097 01:44:14,940 --> 01:44:15,880 All in favor? 1098 01:44:17,900 --> 01:44:18,720 On the phone? 1099 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:19,360 In favor? 1100 01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:20,860 In favor? 1101 01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:21,440 Thank you. 1102 01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:22,000 Thank you. 1103 01:44:23,060 --> 01:44:23,920 Madam Clerk. 1104 01:44:24,380 --> 01:44:25,100 Madam Clerk. 1105 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,040 We have our confirming bylaw looking for a motion, Madam Mayor. 1106 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,820 Moved by Councillor Bennett, seconded by Councillor Gardner. 1107 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:35,960 On the phone, all in favour? 1108 01:44:36,420 --> 01:44:37,260 All in favour? 1109 01:44:37,380 --> 01:44:37,820 In favour? 1110 01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:39,100 In favour? 1111 01:44:39,860 --> 01:44:40,400 In the room? 1112 01:44:41,340 --> 01:44:42,200 All in favour? 1113 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:42,820 Carried. 1114 01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:46,340 adjourned. 1115 01:44:46,860 --> 01:44:51,620 So, before we adjourn, I'd just like to do a little recap. 1116 01:44:51,620 --> 01:44:59,980 the CAO and myself will discuss an economic recovery task force and move forward with some terms of... 1117 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:17,660 I would like to thank the clerk and CAO and Mr. Lavalle. I'm told did some incredible technical 1118 01:45:17,660 --> 01:45:28,060 work setting up all of this intense physical distancing space. We are grateful for all of 1119 01:45:28,060 --> 01:45:30,900 the work and we know that there's a lot of work that went into this setup. 1120 01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:37,140 It was also submitted to Dr. Paul Rameleotis and he reviewed the pictures and the setup 1121 01:45:37,900 --> 01:45:43,600 and formally indicated to myself and Ms. Adams that this meets the physical distancing rules 1122 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:44,800 and all of the regulations. 1123 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:51,820 As you know, I've communicated with all of you because I need your feedback on video conferencing 1124 01:45:51,820 --> 01:45:53,980 so we're going to continue to investigate that. 1125 01:45:53,980 --> 01:45:58,840 We may have committee meetings through using that service, so that's something that we're 1126 01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,060 going to continue. 1127 01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:06,000 So it's an ongoing conversation that's not put to bed, that continues, and I am seeking 1128 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:12,860 consensus on that issue, so that we can come to a place where all of us are comfortable 1129 01:46:12,860 --> 01:46:18,060 with the way that we proceed around council meetings and any and all other meetings during 1130 01:46:18,060 --> 01:46:19,560 this pandemic and beyond. 1131 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,120 And motion to adjourn. 1132 01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,740 Councillor Ebert and Councillor Grant, all in favour? 1133 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,000 Carried on the phone? 1134 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:28,340 Councillor Ebert. 1135 01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:30,020 Councillor Ebert. 1136 01:46:30,020 --> 01:46:30,160 Councillor Ebert. 1137 01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:32,720 Thank you to all of you. 1138 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:34,440 Take care.