[5:31] >> God, bid knowledge our
[5:31] finite
[5:32] humanity, recognize our
[5:32] frailties
[5:32] and limitations before you.
[5:33] Through election, our citizens
[5:33] have
[5:36] conferred to these, the mantle
[5:36] of
[5:37] leadership.
[5:41] They bear the confidence of our
[5:42] community, therefore, we would
[5:42] humbly ask that you and I'll
[5:43] and
[5:44] empower this assembly with
[5:44] attributes necessary to
[5:49] accomplish
[5:52] the tasks their positions
[5:52] require
[5:53] of them of the betterment of
[5:53] corpus
[5:53] christi.
[5:54] Ladies and him him and assemble
[5:57] before you have many talents
[5:57] and
[5:58] abilities.
[5:58] We ask that you harness them in
[5:59] unity to the betterment and
[6:00] prosperity of our city.
[6:05] The tasks before them are
[6:09] daunting,
[6:10] challenging, and far-reaching,
[6:10] but
[6:11] they are not beyond your scope
[6:11] of
[6:11] understanding.
[6:12] We are assured that you have a
[6:14] perfect plan and we'll share it
[6:14] if
[6:15] we seek it in earnest.
[6:16] Lord, we would also ask your
[6:23] protection on those of the
[6:23] employment of our city, for
[6:24] those
[6:24] who toil to keep our city and
[6:25] repair and those who wear the
[6:26] different uniforms of agencies
[6:26] that
[6:27] provide protection of life and
[6:27] property.
[6:31] we ask that they be safe and
[6:31] have
[6:31] the blessing of returning to
[6:32] their
[6:32] homes and families at the end
[6:33] of
[6:34] their days work.
[6:41] Father, bless corpus christi,
[6:41] bless
[6:42] her city leadership, and May
[6:42] your
[6:42] will be done here today.
[6:43] We praise you for your goodness
[6:46] and
[6:47] your faithfulness.
[6:47] Amen.
[6:48] >> amen.
[6:48] Thank you, reverend.
[6:52] If I can ask for the director
[6:52] of
[6:53] facilities if you can come and
[6:53] lead
[6:56] us in pledge.
[6:57] >> good morning.
[7:00] Please join me in the pledge of
[7:00] allegiance.
[7:01] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[7:01] of
[7:07] the united states of america,
[7:07] and
[7:07] to the republic for which it
[7:10] stands, one nation, under God,
[7:10] indivisible with liberty and
[7:14] justice for all.
[7:15] >> thank you, Mr. Gonzales.
[7:18] If we can have our city
[7:18] secretary
[7:20] call the role of the required
[7:21] officers, please.
[7:54] >> [Roll call]
[7:54] >> thank you very much.
[7:57] We'll go on to item number g.
[7:58] City manager comments and
[7:58] update on
[8:05] city operation.
[8:06] >> mayor, it's easy today.
[8:07] I don't have any comments for
[8:07] the
[8:07] council today.
[8:08] >> thank you very much.
[8:11] on executive session we have
[8:12] the
[8:12] collective bargaining
[8:12] negotiations
[8:13] on here on number 1.
[8:14] However, we have no business to
[8:14] discuss.
[8:18] Going to item number 1 --
[8:18] excuse
[8:18] me.
[8:19] Item I.
[8:28] Do I have a motion -- if you
[8:28] can
[8:28] bring those forward to us,
[8:29] please.
[8:29] >> we've presented the minutes
[8:30] of
[8:30] the regular meeting of October
[8:30] 14th
[8:31] for your consideration.
[8:31] >> motion to amend.
[8:36] Trying to find the item.
[8:37] >> for item number 7, the
[8:41] motion
[8:42] was seconded by david low.
[8:42] >> okay.
[8:53] There's a motion to amend.
[8:54] I have a second.
[8:54] Any discussion?
[8:55] All in favor?
[8:55] Motion carries.
[8:56] We can vote as amended, please.
[8:56] May I have the motion to accept
[8:56] as
[8:57] amended?
[8:58] Second.
[9:00] If you can take the role.
[9:04] >> for passage of the motion --
[9:04] for
[9:09] passage to approve the minutes.
[9:21] >> [Roll call] The minutes
[9:21] are
[9:21] approved.
[9:21] >> thank you.
[9:25] We'll go on to item l consent
[9:26] agenda three through 13.
[9:27] Is there anyone from the public
[9:27] that has a comment on item
[9:31] number 3
[9:31] through 13?
[9:37] ms. Mcintyre.
[9:39] >> I just have a comment,
[9:39] mayor, on
[9:43] number 8.
[9:43] >> yes, ma'am.
[9:43] >> excuse me.
[9:50] Hold on.
[9:50] Yeah, it is number 8.
[9:58] Sorry about that.
[9:58] I know we passed this on first
[9:59] reading last week, but I was
[9:59] just
[10:00] kind of curious about -- and
[10:00] I'm
[10:01] going to support this but I did
[10:03] have a question and wanted some
[10:04] feedback during the budget
[10:04] cycle I
[10:06] had asked about within the
[10:06] business
[10:10] plan for the police department
[10:10] and
[10:11] the manpower study, so I'm just
[10:15] kind of bringing that forward
[10:16] and
[10:16] wondering what is the timeline
[10:16] or
[10:19] what's the status of that study
[10:19] and
[10:20] when will it be brought forward
[10:20] for
[10:23] consideration going into future
[10:23] budget years.
[10:25] I recognize that's what we did
[10:25] here
[10:30] today or what we are about to
[10:31] do is, as I see, part of the
[10:31] solution,
[10:35] but I want to look more long-
[10:35] term.
[10:36] For me it sounded like that
[10:37] manpower study was going to be
[10:38] information that would help
[10:38] guide
[10:41] us in making the decisions
[10:41] later on.
[10:46] So I'm just asking that.
[10:48] >> this, actually, is probably
[10:49] the
[10:51] one that you're talking about
[10:59] probably a year and a half old.
[11:00] When troy was police chief, he
[11:01] commissioned a study of the
[11:01] entire
[11:02] department was probably three
[11:02] or
[11:04] four years ago.
[11:05] I came in and did a tuneup for
[11:05] his
[11:12] patrol only, and so the city
[11:13] manager would have to directly
[11:17] answer that.
[11:17] Whenever he wanted to come come
[11:20] forward is when from my view it
[11:24] will come forward.
[11:25] Just so you know when it comes
[11:27] forward, probably that's out of
[11:27] date.
[11:31] >> one was the tuneup done?
[11:32] It's already outdated.
[11:33] >> it's probably a year and a
[11:37] half
[11:40] old.
[11:40] >> I think this is a good
[11:41] question
[11:42] to ask at this point.
[11:46] In the ordinance the council
[11:47] passed
[11:51] a meeting or two ago, we put
[11:53] authorize numbers for police
[11:54] and
[11:54] fire.
[11:55] The authorized number for the
[11:56] police department actually does
[11:57] line up with what you're
[12:02] talking
[12:02] about.
[12:03] The kind of ongoing concern
[12:05] that
[12:09] I've had about staffing is more
[12:10] enterprise oriented.
[12:14] In other words, we have what I
[12:16] think is a credible study for
[12:21] manpower in the police
[12:22] department.
[12:23] We have a better idea I think
[12:23] in
[12:26] the fire department than most
[12:27] other
[12:27] departments, but when you look
[12:28] at
[12:29] the other 30 departments that
[12:29] exist
[12:33] in the study, I don't think we
[12:33] have
[12:37] a good idea of what the
[12:38] manpower
[12:38] are for those requirements.
[12:40] So as we speak, I have efforts
[12:44] going on with my assistant city
[12:44] managers to make a
[12:45] determination on
[12:49] that and then my intent to come
[12:50] back sometime after the first
[12:50] of
[12:51] the year and have that
[12:51] discussion
[12:53] with the council about what the
[12:58] enterprise requirements are for
[13:02] adequate and even ideal staff.
[13:03] It's my full intent as we move
[13:03] into
[13:06] the next budget cycle to
[13:06] recognize
[13:07] the staffing requirements
[13:11] across
[13:13] the enterprise so that the
[13:13] police
[13:18] department and every other
[13:20] department, their staffing
[13:22] requirements in order to
[13:22] achieve
[13:25] their core mission is
[13:25] recognized
[13:25] and from there we can launch
[13:29] into a
[13:29] plan to start to meet those
[13:36] enterprise requirements.
[13:36] I am concerned we focus on one
[13:37] department only and just talk
[13:39] about
[13:40] that because, as I said before,
[13:40] the
[13:46] city is an enterprise is a
[13:46] balanced
[13:47] effort, and you need to make
[13:47] sure
[13:50] that the entire enterprise is
[13:50] balanced in terms of the
[13:51] services
[13:52] being provided.
[13:55] I intend to have that
[13:55] discussion.
[13:59] When I can answer the
[13:59] questions.
[13:59] >> okay.
[14:01] In the meantime, can I get a
[14:02] copy?
[14:06] >> I will provide it to the
[14:06] entirety.
[14:07] >> thank you, chief.
[14:10] Thank you, ron.
[14:14] >> what was also something that
[14:14] can
[14:16] be -- I can't tell you how much
[14:16] I
[14:17] appreciate your comments
[14:20] because it
[14:21] is a holistic.
[14:21] We are all interdependent in
[14:24] every
[14:24] city department and how we
[14:25] operate
[14:25] 24/7.
[14:29] It's good to have the big
[14:29] picture
[14:30] idea, but what I do like about
[14:33] the
[14:33] study is the original emphasis
[14:34] they
[14:36] had on community policing, and
[14:39] there were also best practices
[14:39] that
[14:41] are separate and apart from
[14:47] staffing that we always
[14:48] addressed
[14:48] today, but there's also
[14:49] economies
[14:49] of scale and efficiencies, and
[14:50] I
[14:51] know that chief riggs at the
[14:52] time
[14:55] also reorganized the department
[14:55] from some of the
[14:59] recommendations of
[14:59] low.
[15:00] I think maybe if we can get a
[15:04] timeline of at least at a
[15:04] minimum
[15:08] January to let us know and
[15:09] maybe
[15:09] get a report from the chief as
[15:10] far
[15:11] as some of the best practices,
[15:13] because I think those also help
[15:16] with some of the operational
[15:17] efficiencies that affect
[15:20] $-dollar-sign-dollar sign.
[15:21] And those in the end will help
[15:21] us
[15:31] become educated in how we talk
[15:31] about -- you know, how we staff
[15:32] it.
[15:32] I think those go together.
[15:33] >> I think they do.
[15:33] I assure you will bring this
[15:37] forward as soon as we can
[15:37] reasonably do that.
[15:38] The police department has an
[15:41] advantage in a way because
[15:41] they've
[15:42] got revenue sources separate
[15:42] from
[15:46] the general fund that they can
[15:46] use
[15:47] for the study.
[15:51] I can't remember the cost of
[15:51] the
[15:52] study.
[15:53] Somewhere between 50 and a
[15:53] hundred
[15:53] thousand.
[15:54] >> yes.
[15:54] So the tuneup study that I can
[15:56] speak to that I did was 25,000.
[16:07] I want to say thanks to the
[16:08] community because they pay for
[16:08] it.
[16:09] The public tax dollars did not
[16:09] go
[16:09] for that study.
[16:10] It was through our confiscated
[16:10] drug
[16:11] funds.
[16:11] If I can say one other thing,
[16:12] I'm a
[16:14] team member.
[16:17] Nobody recognizes the
[16:17] enterprise
[16:21] other than probably ron and
[16:21] susan
[16:21] and you guys.
[16:22] We fully know where we sit in
[16:22] in
[16:29] the grand scheme of things.
[16:30] I'm the police chief, so I'll
[16:30] always advocate for more
[16:30] resources
[16:32] for my department, and I don't
[16:32] want
[16:40] to put anybody in any position
[16:40] of
[16:40] undue pressure.
[16:41] So I'm trying to walk that
[16:41] line.
[16:42] Yes, mayor, there have been
[16:45] some
[16:46] efficiencies gained that troy
[16:46] instituted, and I also probably
[16:47] give up some political capital
[16:51] from
[16:52] my standpoint on doing some
[16:53] things
[16:53] a bit different like the minor
[16:54] accidents, not responding to
[16:55] certain calls, all the things
[16:55] that
[16:56] we've been talking about.
[16:57] The final piece is we're going
[16:57] to
[17:01] be coming forward with I think
[17:01] some
[17:05] wonderful things in the area of
[17:06] technology that is multiplying
[17:06] our
[17:07] police force, and I promised
[17:07] the
[17:12] city manager and I promised
[17:13] this
[17:13] body that I would do everything
[17:13] I
[17:20] can to squeeze everything out of
[17:21] before I came to you asking for
[17:21] anything more.
[17:26] I think we probably at that
[17:34] point.
[17:35] I'd hate to be in your
[17:35] position.
[17:36] The things that keep you up at
[17:36] night are probably multiplied
[17:36] by
[17:37] what you guys have to do with
[17:38] streets and water and all of
[17:38] those
[17:38] things.
[17:39] I'm trying to be very careful
[17:39] by
[17:43] not putting people in a
[17:44] position
[17:47] that I'm pushing to get more
[17:48] staffing, but I am pushing to
[17:48] get
[17:48] more staffing.
[17:51] I just don't want to create any
[18:23] undue pressure on anybody.
[18:24] >> that the conversation I want
[18:24] to
[18:29] have as a backup plan.
[18:30] Got further that the past.
[18:30] I think we need to be prepared
[18:30] for
[18:34] that, worst-case scenario.
[18:35] I don't want to be caught in a
[18:35] situation.
[18:39] That's a separate conversation.
[18:41] >> we try to keep a balance of
[18:43] about 2 million for that very
[18:47] reason, and so we try to -- we
[18:47] think about that as we go
[18:49] through
[18:50] our spending so that in the
[18:54] event
[18:54] something happens, it buys us
[18:54] time
[18:57] to create a plan so that we can
[18:58] continue with the staffing
[18:58] levels
[19:03] that we already have.
[19:04] >> and I appreciate you
[19:04] publicly
[19:05] acknowledging the importance of
[19:05] the
[19:06] bigger picture, because we all
[19:08] have
[19:08] our needs, and God knows this
[19:09] is a
[19:09] good decision today, but also
[19:12] working directly with our city
[19:13] manager as we go through
[19:13] budgeting
[19:16] process, that is an important
[19:16] key.
[19:21] >> let me add one other
[19:22] thought.
[19:22] Part of what I was trying to
[19:22] say in
[19:23] terms of cost is the police
[19:27] department has the ability to
[19:27] pay
[19:28] initially about $100,000 for
[19:28] this
[19:28] study.
[19:29] But when you look at the
[19:33] enterprise, you know, the
[19:33] police
[19:39] department is 500 employees out
[19:39] of
[19:39] 3000.
[19:40] So the general fund doesn't
[19:40] have
[19:44] the luxury at this point to put
[19:45] in
[19:45] 300, $400, $400,000 for a
[19:45] similar study
[19:52] to look at the balance of the
[19:52] enterprise.
[19:53] So we'll be doing that in-
[19:53] house.
[19:53] We'll be doing it ourselves.
[19:54] Probably going to take a bit
[19:54] longer
[19:58] to get it done.
[20:01] I think it's important.
[20:03] I know the methodology that was
[20:09] used on the police manpower
[20:23] started.
[20:23] I'd like to have something
[20:24] similarly reliable when we talk
[20:25] about staffing for the rest of
[20:28] the
[20:34] enterprise.
[20:35] We'll get it back to you as
[20:35] soon
[20:42] after the first of the year.
[20:47] >> just wanted to add.
[20:47] The solution study was 161
[20:52] pages
[20:53] across $90,000, forfeiture
[20:53] funds.
[20:54] The two big things that I got
[20:54] out
[20:58] of it was the need in metro,
[20:58] and
[20:59] also the goal, which I've heard
[21:02] through your efforts over the
[21:03] last
[21:03] four years is to get to
[21:03] proactive
[21:08] policing and the numbers that
[21:08] were
[21:08] needed to get from -- I think
[21:09] you're at about 43 minutes out
[21:09] of
[21:11] 60 in terms of reactive and 17
[21:16] minutes in proactive to get to
[21:30] 30.
[21:31] >> the ideal spot is 30 minutes
[21:31] of
[21:35] proactive neighbor patrols not
[21:39] find
[21:40] two calls versus 30 minutes of
[21:40] responding to call.
[21:41] Rhonda is exactly right.
[21:41] I really like the methodology.
[21:42] A lot of people throw out the
[21:43] offer
[21:49] choose for proposition.
[21:49] That's not my preferred way.
[21:50] My preferred way is workload,
[21:50] which
[21:55] is what the study were load
[21:56] uses.
[21:56] What's defined as travel time,
[21:57] examining the time that it
[21:57] takes to
[22:00] do certain offenses or make
[22:00] arrest,
[22:01] the time it takes to go to
[22:01] briefing
[22:03] and all of those things that
[22:06] officers do day in and day out.
[22:08] So that's what the study is
[22:08] about.
[22:13] I agree with it was a very good
[22:18] study to undertake and it was
[22:18] very
[22:19] revealing from my perspective.
[22:19] >> great.
[22:19] And that's where
[22:21] decentralization
[22:22] came in and deficiencies and
[22:22] multiplying efforts.
[22:27] I think you're working the plan
[22:27] ,
[22:28] but I look forward to an
[22:28] updated
[22:29] study and understanding where
[22:29] we
[22:33] are today and how we continue.
[22:35] Hopefully, one day be more
[22:36] proactive than reactive.
[22:36] I know you're doing the best
[22:39] you
[22:39] can.
[22:40] >> thank you.
[22:40] >> if you want to get a
[22:44] snapshot of
[22:46] that study, I know it's toward
[22:46] the
[22:47] end.
[22:52] You can google it.
[22:55] It gives you an overview and
[22:55] talks
[23:00] about the emphasis on metro
[23:03] calm.
[23:03] Just for the benefit of the
[23:04] public,
[23:17] can you help me spell it?
[23:17] >> etico
[23:27] >> etico.
[23:28] >> that way they can have a
[23:28] sense
[23:29] of what we're talking about if
[23:29] they
[23:29] google it.
[23:30] It's a good day for corpus
[23:30] christi
[23:31] and public safety.
[23:31] Is there any other questions,
[23:35] Ms. Mcintyre?
[23:36] >> that which we can google is
[23:36] the
[23:37] one that was three and half
[23:37] years
[23:37] old.
[23:38] >> correct.
[23:38] It was also carried on our
[23:39] website
[23:40] for quite some time, but the
[23:41] new
[23:46] one since has not been
[23:51] revealed.
[23:52] That was not available.
[23:52] >> that really is about are
[23:53] directed patrol officers and
[23:53] not
[23:54] the entity.
[23:54] >> yes.
[23:54] Now, the one that I
[23:55] commissioned
[23:56] kind of as a tuneup to the
[23:56] original
[24:04] looked at patrol.
[24:06] >> and one last question.
[24:15] When you talk about the
[24:16] workload
[24:16] and things like that, does it
[24:17] also
[24:17] take into consideration -- what
[24:18] I've heard several times is
[24:18] whether
[24:19] people are on sick leave for
[24:19] vacation time.
[24:24] So does take into account all
[24:24] those
[24:25] available to be hands on deck.
[24:26] >> as a general rule, if I have
[24:28] nine officers assigned to a
[24:28] shift,
[24:33] seven we'll show up.
[24:34] And so the number that we use
[24:34] is
[24:37] that seven number when it comes
[24:37] to
[24:38] deployment.
[24:38] It's quite interesting, because
[24:40] without fail that happens.
[24:43] So we have minimal staffing
[24:43] level,
[24:44] which not only for our officers
[24:46] but
[24:46] our chief.
[24:50] If I have three chiefs we all
[24:51] can't
[24:53] take off at the same time.
[24:56] And so that's what the minimum
[24:57] staffing is.
[25:03] The study is based on minimum.
[25:08] >> let's vote on it for right
[25:08] now.
[25:12] >> for passage of item number
[25:13] 8.
[25:13] On second reading, ordinance
[25:15] number 8 on 2nd reading.
[25:34] [Roll call] Item number 8
[25:34] passes.
[25:35] >> thank you very much.
[25:35] And the balance of them?
[25:36] >> the balance of the items for
[25:37] passage of items three through
[25:37] 13
[25:38] but the exception of item
[25:38] eight.
[25:39] Mayor martinez?
[25:49] [Roll call] The consent
[25:49] agenda
[25:49] passes.
[25:51] >> thank you.
[25:59] Regular agenda item.
[26:00] >> good morning.
[26:01] For the record, director of
[26:03] government relations.
[26:03] Last week --
[26:07] >> I'm sorry, tom.
[26:07] An event that?
[26:15] >> sorry.
[26:15] >> last week we presented
[26:16] several
[26:16] items for your consideration
[26:17] and
[26:17] preparation of the 84th
[26:17] legislative
[26:18] session that begins January
[26:19] 13th
[26:19] 2015.
[26:23] You have on your desk a revised
[26:23] resolution incorporating some
[26:23] of
[26:26] the changes we discussed.
[26:31] If you approve the amended
[26:32] resolution today, the city's
[26:33] priority legislative agenda
[26:33] will
[26:34] include nine items, including
[26:36] two
[26:36] appropriation requests and
[26:36] seven
[26:37] statutory provisions.
[26:52] Those are items that we will
[26:52] have
[26:53] drafted into stand-alone bills.
[26:53] We actively support category,
[26:53] which
[26:54] are not items that we will have
[26:55] drafted include 10 items.
[26:55] The staff initiated proposals
[26:55] on
[26:56] administrative approval of
[26:56] change
[26:59] orders and limits on design
[27:00] build
[27:01] projects have been moved to
[27:01] this
[27:01] category.
[27:02] The changes would be nice to
[27:02] have
[27:03] but they're not the city's
[27:06] highest
[27:10] priority.
[27:10] I've wordsmith the item on
[27:11] transparency.
[27:11] Also added was a marine jobs
[27:12] bill
[27:12] the city supported two years
[27:12] ago.
[27:18] The goal is to encourage large
[27:18] boats but talked in other
[27:19] states or
[27:19] foreign countries to come back
[27:19] to
[27:21] texas by limiting the financial
[27:21] penalty.
[27:28] Under the endorse category, it
[27:29] includes the language preferred
[27:29] by
[27:30] the corpus christi regional
[27:30] transit
[27:31] authority protecting their
[27:31] decal
[27:33] system for fuel taxes, added
[27:33] payday
[27:34] loan language, and summarize
[27:36] support for funding the
[27:36] workforce
[27:40] commission instead of listing
[27:41] the
[27:41] agencies appropriation
[27:41] requests.
[27:42] There are 10 items in the
[27:46] endorse
[27:47] category.
[27:47] I expect there to be additional
[27:48] items in the future on a
[27:52] case-by-case basis.
[27:52] I'm happy to answer any
[27:52] questions
[27:56] you May have, and your vote
[27:56] today
[27:57] would be the motion to amend
[27:57] the
[27:59] resolution is presented last
[27:59] week
[28:00] with the resolution that you
[28:00] have
[28:02] before you.
[28:05] Any questions I'm happy to
[28:06] take.
[28:06] >> thank you.
[28:11] May I have a motion to amend as
[28:12] stated?
[28:12] Who made the motion?
[28:15] Thank you.
[28:18] Is there any discussion on the
[28:19] amendment?
[28:19] All those in favor?
[28:24] And he opposed.
[28:24] If we can get a vote as
[28:25] amended.
[28:25] >> for passage of resolution
[28:32] number 14.
[28:33] >> I apologize.
[28:35] I need to ask for public
[28:36] comment.
[28:36] Anyone from the public have a
[28:46] comment on item number and-14?
[28:46] Seeing none.
[28:47] >> for passage of roussell --
[28:47] of
[28:47] resolution.
[28:59] [Roll call] The resolution
[29:00] passes.
[29:02] >> thank you very much.
[29:14] First reading ordinance is.
[29:25] >> Ms. Payne?
[29:26] >> good afternoon.
[29:26] Item 15 is an ordinance
[29:27] appropriating --
[29:27] >> if you can state your name
[29:32] and
[29:35] your role in your department.
[29:35] >> dan grimm spoke, director of
[29:36] develop and services.
[29:39] >> thank you.
[29:44] >> item 15 is an ordinance
[29:50] appropriating funds of $3956
[29:50] and 6
[29:55] cents from the wastewater trunk
[29:55] system fund to refund Mr. And
[29:56] Mrs. Baze and four wastewater
[30:00] lot
[30:06] acreage fees paid since water
[30:06] services are not available nor
[30:07] we'll be available within the
[30:07] next
[30:07] five years.
[30:08] >> is there anyone from the
[30:08] public
[30:09] that has a comment on item
[30:09] number 15?
[30:13] Anyone from the council?
[30:14] >> for passage of ordinance
[30:14] number 15 on the first reading.
[30:15] Mayor martinez?
[30:25] [Roll call] The ordinance
[30:25] passes.
[30:30] >> thank you.
[30:31] Can you spell your last name
[30:31] for
[30:32] me?
[30:42] >> yes.
[30:47] Grimsbo.
[30:48] >> item 16 is an ordinance
[30:48] authorizing the execution of
[30:48] the
[30:52] distribution maine and
[30:56] reimbursement agreement with
[30:56] the
[30:57] icon at corpus christi limited
[30:57] partnership for the
[30:58] construction
[30:58] and distribution in waterline
[30:59] and
[31:00] appropriating $60,193.60 from
[31:00] the
[31:03] distribution maine trust fund
[31:04] to
[31:04] reimburse the developer in
[31:06] accordance with the koreans.
[31:15] This is to install 1853-foot 8-
[31:15] inch
[31:15] pvc waterline to provide water
[31:20] supply to a new 304 unit
[31:20] apartment
[31:20] project.
[31:21] >> thank you.
[31:21] Anyone from the public that has
[31:22] comment on item number 16?
[31:27] There's none from accountable
[31:27] --
[31:27] from the council.
[31:43] >> [Roll call]
[31:43] >> thank you.
[31:43] Number 17.
[31:44] >> item 17 is an ordinance
[31:45] authorizing the execution of
[31:46] the
[31:49] developer participation
[31:49] agreement
[31:52] with online investment
[31:52] incorporated
[31:57] to reimburse the developer
[31:58] 277,000
[32:00] for the city share for the cost
[32:00] to
[32:06] extend north also parkway.
[32:07] Developers can construct
[32:07] approximately 1006 and a 14
[32:12] feet of
[32:13] roadway.
[32:13] >> thank you.
[32:14] Is there anyone from the public
[32:14] that has a comment on item
[32:15] number 17?
[32:17] Seeing none from the council.
[32:31] >> [Roll call] The ordinance
[32:31] passes.
[32:37] >> thank you.
[32:38] Mr. Segundo, I know you want to
[32:38] come up here and get rocking
[32:39] and
[32:49] rolling before public comments,
[32:49] but
[32:50] it is right at 11:59, about to
[32:50] be
[32:50] 12:00.
[32:51] If I can ask those who for
[32:51] public
[32:52] comment can come forward and
[32:52] state
[33:04] your name and your address.
[33:05] >> john kelly, 3621 austin.
[33:06] I'm here for neighborhoods
[33:06] first.
[33:09] First of all, I want to talk
[33:09] about
[33:09] -- I have a piece of paper here
[33:10] with the opinion from the navy
[33:10] on
[33:13] here that says the current
[33:16] proposed
[33:17] wind farm does not interfere
[33:17] with
[33:17] the base.
[33:21] There's also an article here
[33:21] filed
[33:25] yesterday that the federal
[33:26] aviation
[33:26] committee nixed a wind farm
[33:27] near
[33:28] pennsylvania because of radar
[33:28] problems.
[33:31] These are two pieces of paper
[33:31] that
[33:34] proves the government says bill
[33:40] regulate windfarms.
[33:41] For the benefit of communities.
[33:41] You have offered not one single
[33:43] piece of factual paper to the
[33:46] contrary to the.
[33:46] Strictly innuendo and
[33:50] conspiracy
[33:50] theory.
[33:51] Now, that disturbs me from a
[33:51] number
[33:54] of stem points.
[33:58] Number 1, that you would pass
[33:58] legislation or legislation on
[33:59] that
[33:59] basis.
[34:01] Second of all, the resolution
[34:02] that
[34:06] you passed last week does not
[34:06] put
[34:14] any limits on the fund.
[34:14] Thirdly, passage of that
[34:15] resolution
[34:15] was an illegal act.
[34:19] It was not red or listed.
[34:20] Its content was not listed in
[34:20] the
[34:21] meeting on the 14th, nor was it
[34:21] was
[34:25] the last week in a written
[34:26] agenda
[34:26] here available at the council.
[34:27] So the public had no ability to
[34:34] respond to it.
[34:34] That violates open meetings act
[34:34] and
[34:35] is an illegal act and we'll
[34:36] consequently need to be
[34:37] repassed, I
[34:38] believe.
[34:38] Thirdly, you've entered into a
[34:39] legal battle, which I do not
[34:43] believe you can win.
[34:43] It is undoubtedly the fact that
[34:44] the
[34:45] wind farm the land owners will
[34:46] likely sue you over land rights
[34:46] in
[34:54] the federal decision.
[34:54] The supreme court clearly said
[34:55] that
[34:58] you cannot take an economic
[35:02] advantage of one and give it to
[35:02] another.
[35:03] That was a condemnation case,
[35:03] but
[35:08] the same principle applies
[35:11] here.
[35:11] Also, what one would need to do
[35:11] as
[35:12] an attorney is present the
[35:12] previous
[35:13] council meetings where did you
[35:13] say
[35:14] that your intent is to stop the
[35:20] wind farm to give the advantage
[35:20] to
[35:20] developers.
[35:21] That's all I have.
[35:21] I think you've entered a very
[35:22] perilous task, and I think
[35:22] you've
[35:23] made a huge mistake for the
[35:24] citizens of corpus christi and
[35:25] further annexation will only
[35:29] compound that mistake.
[35:30] We are planning to oppose you
[35:30] for
[35:30] doing so.
[35:30] Thank you.
[35:32] >> thank you, Mr. Kelly.
[35:36] Would you like to get with him
[35:36] to
[35:41] address the comment about
[35:44] legality?
[35:44] >> the item was posted as item
[35:45] 11
[35:55] on the agenda.
[35:55] >> okay.
[36:04] In lieu of -- is there anyone
[36:05] else?
[36:05] At the appropriate time, you
[36:08] can
[36:08] address the
[36:13] >> that Mr. Kelly has brought
[36:33] forward.
[36:33] >> you May want to turn off
[36:34] microphone so we don't have
[36:34] feedback.
[36:38] >> thank you so much.
[36:38] I don't know whether these
[36:47] allegations are true or not but
[36:47] it's sad when people can't
[36:48] acceptable.
[36:48] We've been accused so many
[36:49] things
[36:56] that we don't know what it is.
[36:57] The interest today is not so
[36:57] much
[36:57] in the developers.
[36:58] Each is devoted because they
[36:58] were
[36:59] concerned for the whole city,
[37:00] the
[37:05] safety of the whole city.
[37:06] If it has a negative impact on
[37:06] one
[37:06] part of the city, it has a
[37:07] negative
[37:07] impact on the other parts of
[37:08] the
[37:08] city.
[37:09] I know you're going to be
[37:10] threatened by this.
[37:14] I don't know how much others
[37:15] are.
[37:15] I wish people would deal with
[37:16] the
[37:16] issues.
[37:20] I wish that the public will see
[37:20] those people that continue to
[37:21] come
[37:21] before you and attack your
[37:23] character and credibility.
[37:26] I would like for you to raise
[37:27] your
[37:27] hands.
[37:30] Tell me which one of you came
[37:30] today
[37:35] to say, I'm going to do what I
[37:35] can
[37:36] not to serve the city well?
[37:36] How many of you got up this
[37:36] morning
[37:38] to say that?
[37:39] I thought to get elected so I
[37:42] don't
[37:43] have to present myself well in
[37:43] to
[37:47] do this the city.
[37:54] That's a democracy.
[37:59] Regardless if it's me or anyone
[38:03] else, we are in the position to
[38:03] respond.
[38:04] When you can't respond, guess
[38:04] what
[38:04] happens?
[38:05] The public thinks it's true.
[38:12] I would like the city attorney
[38:13] to
[38:13] be a lot more aggressive, more
[38:14] assertive when they bring
[38:14] allegations.
[38:15] Enough is enough.
[38:18] >> thank you.
[38:20] Thank you for helping with the
[38:25] microphone also.
[38:38] >> hello.
[38:39] I met 5426 chevy chase drive.
[38:39] I'm here as the President Of
[38:40] corpus
[38:40] christi taxpayers association
[38:40] and
[38:41] also the chair of the cleaner
[38:43] economy coalition.
[38:43] All of my members in both of
[38:44] those
[38:48] organizations and myself and my
[38:49] family are going to ask you to,
[38:49] please, let's don't annex
[38:50] another
[38:52] 40 square miles of property.
[38:56] We've been encumbered up to the
[38:57] point where we are bleeding
[38:57] folks
[38:58] with the tax money that goes
[38:58] out.
[39:02] I can't believe that we would
[39:03] want
[39:03] to go ahead and encumber
[39:03] ourselves
[39:04] with having to provide sewers
[39:04] and
[39:10] stuff to farmland.
[39:10] That's from my entire group.
[39:11] But I'll just leave it right
[39:11] there.
[39:11] Thank you.
[39:26] >> thank you.
[39:27] >> can you hear me?
[39:27] >> yes.
[39:28] >> good afternoon.
[39:28] My name is luis chapman.
[39:30] I'm a resident of corpus
[39:30] christi.
[39:31] I am truly puzzled by the
[39:31] actions
[39:33] of the city council over the
[39:36] last
[39:37] several months.
[39:38] When the top of annexation
[39:38] began,
[39:41] the idea was to prevent
[39:41] impediment
[39:44] to city growth.
[39:45] The fact is the city is simply
[39:45] not
[39:47] going to grow past the 30,000
[39:48] acres
[39:52] of undeveloped land outside the
[39:53] city limits, that is prior to
[39:53] last
[39:55] week annexation.
[39:59] This is just not going to
[40:00] happen
[40:00] within the lifespan of the
[40:01] proposed
[40:07] wind farm.
[40:08] There've been a number of land
[40:08] developers at council meetings
[40:09] pushing for annexation.
[40:14] The fact is now that their
[40:14] objective has been
[40:15] accomplished, it
[40:18] will be much cheaper for
[40:18] developers
[40:20] to hook into the infrastructure
[40:49] required by annexation.
[40:50] You should know that you cannot
[40:50] regulate it, but you can tax
[40:51] it.
[40:51] You can tax the turbines, and
[40:51] you
[40:52] can text my and my family's
[41:00] historic ranch and farmland.
[41:01] The letter does not seem very
[41:01] fair
[41:02] to me in that it should be
[41:02] obvious
[41:17] that I'm very interested the
[41:20] letter
[41:25] is simply taxing the turbines,
[41:25] the
[41:26] farmer.
[41:26] The turbines, that can be seen
[41:27] as a
[41:33] land grab.
[41:37] Now the city's rhetoric seems
[41:37] to be
[41:38] concerned over possible effects
[41:38] on
[41:42] our military basis I am deeply
[41:44] concerned about the basis and
[41:45] their
[41:50] enormous importance to this
[41:59] area.
[42:00] I would like to know what is
[42:00] the
[42:04] real reason behind the city's
[42:05] actions.
[42:08] Why does the storyline keep
[42:08] changing?
[42:09] Is the council concerned about
[42:09] the
[42:12] image at this point?
[42:14] And why when required good
[42:14] faith
[42:18] negotiations between the city
[42:19] and
[42:21] aipac for making good progress
[42:21] to
[42:24] the council decide to vote to
[42:24] annex
[42:27] and declare intent to annex
[42:31] another
[42:33] 20,000 acres May peaking --
[42:33] making
[42:33] corpus christi almost as large
[42:34] an
[42:38] area of the city of corpus
[42:44] christi.
[42:45] This is the part where I would
[42:46] laugh because it's ludicrous.
[42:46] >> Mrs. Chapman, I've given you
[42:47] an
[42:47] extra 20 seconds.
[42:48] >> thank you very much.
[42:53] >> thank you for coming.
[42:53] Mr. Gordy.
[42:58] >> jack gordy.
[42:58] I'm down here for the same
[42:59] thing
[43:04] the other people spoke about.
[43:04] When I leave home, I always
[43:04] bring a
[43:06] little comment samples me, and
[43:06] I
[43:10] asked if we do the same thing.
[43:11] As I've said before, if they
[43:11] were
[43:14] against the windfarms, because
[43:14] they
[43:15] interfered with flight
[43:15] operations,
[43:20] everybody out there using a
[43:21] grain
[43:21] of common sense would know that
[43:22] the
[43:22] federal government would file a
[43:24] lawsuit and stop it.
[43:24] That.-period-full stop those
[43:30] windfarms any times they want
[43:33] to.
[43:34] This city council, I wish the
[43:34] city
[43:34] council would at least be
[43:35] honest
[43:40] with the citizens and tell them
[43:40] the
[43:41] truth.
[43:41] Tell them the truth and tell
[43:41] them
[43:43] why you won't annex the
[43:43] property.
[43:45] Nine out of 10 people that I've
[43:50] talked to is against the
[43:50] annexation.
[43:51] It will take 30 years for the
[43:55] city
[43:57] to collect off a property tax
[43:58] that
[43:58] would take 30 years to collect
[43:59] what
[43:59] it's going to cost to annex it
[43:59] and
[44:19] put him infrastructure.
[44:20] I think you need to reconfirm
[44:20] the
[44:20] annexation and let the
[44:21] government
[44:21] take action to stop the
[44:22] windfarms
[44:25] if it's going to interfere with
[44:25] flight operations.
[44:26] Like I said, when you leave
[44:26] home to
[44:31] come down here, start bringing
[44:31] some
[44:32] common sense with you.
[44:49] >> thank you, Mr. Gordy.
[44:51] >> Mr. 01.
[44:57] >> I'm one of many owners of
[44:58] the [
[44:58] Inaudible] Rant.
[44:59] I listened to what you said
[44:59] last
[44:59] week.
[45:00] I understand and agree with you
[45:00] in
[45:06] keeping with the station is of
[45:07] paramount importance, but I do
[45:07] not
[45:08] understand why you voted to
[45:08] annex
[45:11] the property last week rather
[45:11] than
[45:12] table the vote until further
[45:14] information can be gathered and
[45:16] could be made more informed
[45:17] decision.
[45:20] The navy is working with and
[45:20] has
[45:21] said that there is no problem
[45:22] with
[45:25] the project as reported on
[45:31] September 16th.
[45:36] Citing the public affairs
[45:36] officer
[45:39] for corpus christi, the navy
[45:40] has
[45:40] not taken no position on the
[45:41] wind
[45:41] farm development because there
[45:41] does
[45:45] not appear to be a conflict for
[45:45] the
[45:46] stations.
[45:46] I understand that you don't
[45:46] believe
[45:51] that there is a spokesperson
[45:51] for
[45:52] the real navy, whatever the
[45:52] real
[46:10] navy might be.
[46:11] Relying on unsubstantiated
[46:11] personal
[46:13] conversations with unnamed
[46:13] naval
[46:14] personnel should not be
[46:16] consider
[46:21] reliable testimony to this
[46:24] council's decision.
[46:25] However, by annexing our
[46:25] property
[46:26] last week, you have guaranteed
[46:26] a
[46:28] much larger windfarms than the
[46:28] one
[46:29] aipac and the land owners were
[46:32] willing to build.
[46:33] A compromise that would've
[46:33] removed
[46:36] turbines from within 5 miles of
[46:36] the
[46:37] city, plus payments in lieu of
[46:40] taxes and other concessions.
[46:45] During the public hearing on
[46:45] august 26th, apex has the right
[46:45] to
[46:53] build this project, that they
[46:53] are
[46:54] going to build this project,
[46:54] and if
[46:55] annex would have to build a
[46:55] larger
[46:58] project to pay the additional
[46:58] city
[46:59] taxes.
[46:59] So I am left with the
[46:59] conclusion
[47:02] that your primary goal in
[47:05] annexation is not providing for
[47:06] future growth core doors but to
[47:06] get
[47:12] the tax revenue from a fully
[47:12] wind
[47:12] farm.
[47:13] Clearly, the naval air station
[47:13] does
[47:14] not need to be saved from a
[47:17] wind
[47:18] farm development that the navy
[47:18] says
[47:23] it is not a problem.
[47:23] Please do not compound your
[47:24] mistakes by annexing most of
[47:24] the
[47:26] rest of the projects that now
[47:26] lies
[47:30] in the new e tj, that only
[47:30] makes
[47:31] the tax burden bigger and the
[47:34] windfarms even larger.
[47:34] Thank you.
[47:52] >> thank you, Mr. 01.
[47:58] >> mayor, council members, I am
[47:58] jimmy dodson.
[47:59] I live in the county, a former
[48:00] resident of corpus christi, but
[48:03] I
[48:03] own property that's very near
[48:04] the
[48:04] county at a farm about 5000
[48:04] acres
[48:08] of the chapman ranch owners
[48:08] association blanch that's going
[48:08] to
[48:10] be impacted by the wind farm.
[48:13] And by your annexation action.
[48:15] I wanted to say that I believe
[48:17] the
[48:21] city annexation and development
[48:21] and
[48:23] planning process needs to be
[48:28] predictable, needs to be fair.
[48:29] It needs to do no harm without
[48:33] compensating owners who are
[48:34] armed
[48:34] -- were harmed and it needs to
[48:35] be
[48:41] cautious about evaluating
[48:41] property
[48:42] rights.
[48:42] In my other life, I'm Chairman
[48:42] Of
[48:43] the credit bank of texas, which
[48:43] is
[48:54] a $24 billion corporation of
[48:55] lenders in texas, louisiana,
[48:55] mississippi, alabama, and
[48:56] mexico.
[48:56] I've been the Chairman For
[48:56] several
[48:57] years.
[48:57] I've been on that board for 12
[48:58] now.
[48:58] I'm not speaking for the bank
[48:59] today, but I will tell you that
[49:00] private property rights is a
[49:00] key
[49:01] issue for us because 70 percent
[49:01] of
[49:03] our portfolio is in first
[49:04] position
[49:04] mortgages in the state of
[49:05] texas,
[49:07] primarily murder rural and
[49:07] small
[49:07] cities with a population of
[49:08] less
[49:10] than 2500.
[49:11] What your actions have done
[49:11] have
[49:14] made it hard to predict as a
[49:14] lender
[49:16] who take security interest in
[49:21] property what the city's action
[49:21] will do.
[49:22] It's my understanding that the
[49:22] city
[49:25] doesn't allow the discharge of
[49:26] firearms, for instance, and now
[49:26] you
[49:29] have 20,000 acres, maybe 40
[49:30] that
[49:35] will, ultimately, the annexed.
[49:35] That's an income stream that's
[49:36] gone.
[49:36] For me as a farmer, it's very
[49:46] important because we have hogs
[49:47] that
[49:47] destroy our crops every year.
[49:48] Without them, trap them.
[49:48] We don't poison them because
[49:49] that's
[49:49] against the law, but if we
[49:50] could,
[49:50] we would because they're the
[49:50] worst
[49:55] pests that we have.
[49:55] What your action has done has
[49:56] made
[49:56] it illegal for me to manage
[49:56] that
[49:57] test.
[49:57] I want to know if animal
[49:58] control is
[50:00] going to do that for me.
[50:01] That would be a challenge, but
[50:01] I
[50:06] would like to have some
[50:13] assistance.
[50:14] The branch area is wonderful
[50:15] farmland, but it's poorly
[50:15] drained.
[50:16] All of the water has to run to
[50:16] get
[50:16] to the zero so or to the laguna
[50:17] largo.
[50:17] The king ranch is owned by
[50:18] another
[50:18] large family.
[50:19] They're very influential and
[50:19] very
[50:20] good people.
[50:20] I want to know if the city will
[50:26] continue to work to get water
[50:27] off
[50:27] the chapman ranch land and out
[50:27] to
[50:28] the lagoon and out to the zero
[50:28] so
[50:29] where it belongs.
[50:31] We had our brain the other day
[50:31] and
[50:32] I understand the city should
[50:37] understand about that problem.
[50:38] Also, I think the shape of the
[50:39] exterior is very interesting.
[50:42] It looks to me that it's just
[50:42] the
[50:42] windfarms.
[50:48] If that's the case, then it
[50:48] doesn't
[50:49] make much sense to me, because
[50:52] there's an area inside the
[50:52] original
[50:57] e tj before the annexation
[50:57] that's a
[50:57] vital interest to the city.
[50:58] It needs to be managed.
[50:59] There's uneven development
[50:59] there.
[51:02] There is land.
[51:03] There are oilfield service
[51:06] companies that have bunkers for
[51:07] explosives and radioactive
[51:07] materials within shouting
[51:12] distance
[51:12] of school.
[51:13] There's all kinds of problems
[51:13] there
[51:14] that the city can be fixing.
[51:14] >> thank you.
[51:14] >> let me say one last thing.
[51:17] The development of services
[51:18] area in
[51:18] the city and the staff is the
[51:18] best
[51:19] it's ever been.
[51:21] I'm not complaining about that.
[51:22] I think that you owe us a
[51:22] better
[51:22] explanation for what you've
[51:23] done.
[51:39] >> thank you.
[51:43] >> my name is john quinn.
[51:49] 5302 capernaum here in corpus.
[51:49] I'm a cotton and grain sorter.
[51:54] I'm a cotton and corn producer
[51:55] here.
[51:55] Part of my farmland is that I
[51:55] don't
[51:56] own, I'm the lieutenant farmer
[51:56] but
[52:01] it is within the new annexed
[52:03] area.
[52:03] Anyway.
[52:06] A few points I wanted to make.
[52:07] I'm sitting at my house just
[52:14] thinking through the annexed
[52:17] area.
[52:17] What is the growth been?
[52:18] This is all supposedly about
[52:18] corpus
[52:18] growing.
[52:19] I went and looked, and within
[52:19] my
[52:23] lifetime, the last 30 years or
[52:24] so,
[52:24] although growth on the south
[52:25] side
[52:25] of corpus, you can draw three-
[52:26] mile
[52:26] circle, and it's almost all
[52:28] great
[52:28] there.
[52:29] I started looking.
[52:30] I say, we're worried about
[52:30] chapman
[52:33] ranch and windfarms affecting
[52:33] the
[52:34] growth of corpus.
[52:36] I can find a 6-mile circle that
[52:36] is
[52:42] in a more desirable area in the
[52:47] court for the next 50 years or
[52:50] so,
[52:51] and a further the wind farm is
[52:51] supposed to last from maybe 30
[52:52] years, and it would be logical
[52:52] for
[52:55] the wind farm to be there,
[52:55] develop
[52:56] that part of corpus and it
[52:56] grows in
[52:58] at the end of the lifecycle of
[52:58] the
[53:01] wind farm.
[53:01] I'm just thinking logically, it
[53:07] doesn't make sense to think we
[53:07] have
[53:08] to annex out there because
[53:08] that's
[53:08] going to affect growth.
[53:12] Questions that I have as a
[53:13] producer.
[53:13] Jimmy spoke to some of these,
[53:14] but
[53:14] are we able to speak on our
[53:14] cell
[53:15] phones out there?
[53:16] Are we going to be able to talk
[53:16] on
[53:23] our cell phones?
[53:24] He talked about discharge of
[53:25] firearms and the hard problems.
[53:25] Snakes, coyotes.
[53:28] What are we doing about animals
[53:28] out
[53:28] there customer what are we
[53:29] legally
[53:29] allowed to do?
[53:34] The drainage issues.
[53:35] What about building equipment
[53:35] sheds?
[53:36] Are we going to have to meet
[53:36] city
[53:37] code to build a barn to put our
[53:39] tractors and equipment into?
[53:39] A lot of questions I have as a
[53:42] producer along those lines that
[53:42] I
[53:43] haven't seen answers to.
[53:45] I'd like to see the facts you
[53:45] used
[53:49] to reach your conclusion that
[53:49] annexation was necessary to
[53:53] protect
[53:54] the growth.
[53:54] It's been stated many times
[53:54] this
[53:56] morning already about the
[53:57] military.
[54:02] I go to church with several
[54:02] naval
[54:05] officers inflate students and
[54:06] flight instructors, and I look
[54:06] them
[54:06] in the eye and said, is this a
[54:07] problem?
[54:08] They said, no, it's not a
[54:09] problem.
[54:11] It's not a problem to the
[54:11] military.
[54:15] From the people that I've seen
[54:15] in
[54:18] the planes themselves.
[54:23] They have a rich agricultural
[54:24] issue.
[54:24] As far as I know, they desire
[54:24] their
[54:25] land to stay in farming for the
[54:26] foreseeable future.
[54:28] Farming scott tougher.
[54:34] Government programs changing
[54:34] and
[54:34] other things in south texas
[54:37] especially with hydro, it's
[54:38] unpredictable.
[54:40] So I think they're looking at
[54:41] trying to keep farming.
[54:45] They want this to be a green
[54:46] belt
[54:46] and protect the farming, keep
[54:47] it in
[54:52] farming as well as have green
[54:52] energy.
[54:53] How much greener can you get
[54:53] with
[54:54] got to have green crops grown
[54:56] with
[54:56] green energy?
[54:57] >> thank you.
[55:00] >> last thing I'll say, I just
[55:01] think that chapman family is
[55:01] one of
[55:05] the most generous -- generous
[55:05] families I know.
[55:06] You don't have to look far to
[55:10] see
[55:11] their contributions to the city
[55:11] of
[55:11] corpus and south texas.
[55:12] I don't think this is fair to
[55:12] them
[55:13] to be able to penalize them in
[55:14] this
[55:15] way.
[55:15] That's where look at it, it's a
[55:16] penalty.
[55:19] I think it's very unfair to
[55:19] them.
[55:20] >> if I can ask you to please
[55:20] be
[55:22] mindful of the three-minute
[55:22] limit
[55:26] for public comment.
[55:26] Mr. Loeb.
[55:32] >> on a very large acre tract,
[55:32] is
[55:36] legal in the city limits if it
[55:37] was
[55:37] annex after 1981.
[55:38] There's a bunch of law -- bunch
[55:38] of
[55:41] stuff in local government about
[55:41] it.
[55:42] >> since that has been a
[55:42] question
[55:48] asked by at least two of the
[55:50] commenters, he is correct.
[55:51] Since that we are annexing
[55:51] after
[55:52] 1981, it's attracted more than
[55:52] 10 acres.
[55:54] We cannot regulate shotguns,
[55:57] rifles, or pistols being
[55:57] discharged
[55:58] and track the more than 50
[55:58] acres we
[56:01] cannot regulate.
[56:01] >> okay.
[56:05] Thank you.
[56:13] >> my name is diane vandermark.
[56:14] I own farm property in the city
[56:14] of
[56:14] corpus christi.
[56:15] Formerly chapman ranch.
[56:15] I also own farmland in what is
[56:16] left
[56:18] of chapman ranch at least for
[56:18] the
[56:18] moment.
[56:19] Last week not only did you
[56:19] annex
[56:22] all of the property, most of
[56:22] which
[56:26] has been in the e tj for about
[56:27] 30
[56:27] years, but you announced that
[56:27] you
[56:28] will begin a second phase of
[56:30] annexation with no explanation.
[56:30] Is there a third?
[56:49] Is there a fourth phase of
[56:49] annexation and that the patriot
[56:50] wind farm that Councilman Stop
[56:50] scott spoke about last week?
[56:51] Will you continue to lollipop
[56:51] annex
[56:52] where you will until you've
[56:52] gobbled
[56:53] up all of the lucrative parts
[56:53] of
[56:53] nueces county?
[56:54] Last week and previously you
[56:54] said
[56:55] that annexation was the only
[56:55] tool
[56:56] in your toolbox to stop the
[56:56] wind
[56:56] farm.
[56:57] Well, here's another idea for
[56:57] you
[56:58] next time you're looking for a
[56:58] tool.
[57:05] What about the telephone?
[57:10] Not one of you nor any of your
[57:13] staff ever reached out to any
[57:13] of
[57:13] the land owners to discuss this
[57:18] prior to your vote to begin the
[57:22] annexation process.
[57:23] In fact, I found out about your
[57:23] plans to annex or property in a
[57:24] newspaper article dated March
[57:24] 18th.
[57:25] Since then, one and only one
[57:25] person
[57:29] on the council has reached out
[57:29] to
[57:30] one and only one member of my
[57:30] extended family who owned
[57:30] property
[57:33] at chapman ranch, and that was
[57:33] after the annexation process
[57:36] was
[57:37] unleashed.
[57:37] I'm sure carole kirkpatrick
[57:37] would
[57:43] have appreciated a call as well
[57:44] .
[57:44] We felt compelled to hire
[57:44] lawyers
[57:45] to defend ourselves against
[57:45] your
[57:51] hostile actions.
[57:51] It first and only communication
[57:52] came to all of the land owners
[57:52] in
[57:53] the form of the development
[57:56] agreement postmarked July 17th.
[57:56] As we all heard last week, the
[57:57] language in those letters was
[58:03] burdened with particularly
[58:04] obtuse
[58:05] legalese.
[58:05] But I don't understand is why
[58:05] he
[58:06] voted to annex or property last
[58:08] week rather than table the vote
[58:11] since they've informed us that
[58:12] the
[58:12] negotiations we are proceeding
[58:16] with
[58:17] your staff.
[58:17] Also, an independent study by
[58:22] emmons engineering to evaluate
[58:23] broadcast, wireless, public
[58:23] safety,
[58:27] microwave, radar, and other
[58:27] spectrum signals using industry
[58:28] and
[58:32] f tc standards is imminent.
[58:32] It's less than one week away
[58:33] from
[58:35] being published.
[58:39] You and the public could've
[58:39] read
[58:43] what unbiased experts have to
[58:43] say
[58:44] about the state of technology
[58:44] right
[58:45] now rather than using dated
[58:46] information and hearsay to make
[58:51] a
[58:57] decision.
[58:57] Now, it seems you've crossed
[58:57] the
[58:58] rubicon.
[58:58] We have one tool in our
[58:59] toolbox,
[59:03] and that is democracy.
[59:03] Please let me know if there are
[59:04] any
[59:07] other options for us to work
[59:07] with
[59:08] you.
[59:08] Thank you.
[59:12] >> thank you.
[59:13] >> is there anyone else here
[59:13] for
[59:30] public comment?
[59:31] >> good afternoon, council.
[59:36] Kerry robertson-meyer.
[59:37] I stand with the taxpayers and
[59:37] the
[59:41] neighborhood first people and
[59:41] the
[59:42] chapmans in my opinion about
[59:42] this,
[59:42] and it's basically an opinion
[59:44] because all the facts are
[59:44] behind
[59:47] the green wall heater in
[59:50] executive
[59:50] session.
[59:53] It -- until you can bring those
[59:53] facts forward when you're
[59:54] sitting
[59:58] in these chairs here, until
[1:00:02] everyone out here is told the
[1:00:02] details, voting for annexation
[1:00:03] was
[1:00:03] wrong.
[1:00:05] That's my opinion.
[1:00:06] We need to fix what we have
[1:00:08] before
[1:00:09] building more, and this is the
[1:00:12] opposite of that.
[1:00:15] Like Mr. Owens said, you should
[1:00:18] have tabled the discussion
[1:00:18] until
[1:00:23] you can bring facts out until
[1:00:24] you're finished, until you have
[1:00:24] an
[1:00:27] agreement, until it's not all a
[1:00:27] secret.
[1:00:32] You're not relying -- or you
[1:00:32] are
[1:00:38] relying on unsubstantiated
[1:00:38] information.
[1:00:39] It's just what people stand up
[1:00:39] here
[1:00:41] and say.
[1:00:42] I'd like to ask you to not
[1:00:44] double
[1:00:48] your mistake by doubling the
[1:00:49] annexation.
[1:00:49] We are already in the steep
[1:00:50] enough,
[1:00:50] and the new counsel in January
[1:01:00] we'll have to deal with it
[1:01:00] then.
[1:01:01] So I guess it's obvious I'm
[1:01:01] very
[1:01:02] disappointed in the direction
[1:01:02] that
[1:01:04] our city is going, because I
[1:01:07] believe that we need to do
[1:01:09] infill
[1:01:12] and redevelopment and fill in
[1:01:12] the
[1:01:15] gaps to pay for what we are
[1:01:15] already
[1:01:19] paying for, what we've already
[1:01:19] invested in, and we were just
[1:01:20] starting to do that and you
[1:01:20] guys
[1:01:21] started talking about this.
[1:01:21] We were just starting to talk
[1:01:23] about
[1:01:24] residential streets and fixing
[1:01:26] what
[1:01:27] we have and everything was
[1:01:27] looking
[1:01:30] good, and then the focus went
[1:01:30] way
[1:01:30] south.
[1:01:34] That's wrong.
[1:01:35] Please don't double annex and
[1:01:35] thievery -- please reconsider
[1:01:39] your
[1:01:40] first conclusion
[1:01:41] >> thank you.
[1:01:41] Is there anyone else for public
[1:01:42] comment?
[1:01:45] We'll go to item number 18.
[1:02:55] .
[1:03:00] >>> the passage of ordinance
[1:03:01] number 18 on the first reading.
[1:03:03] >> they are martinez [Roll
[1:03:03] call].
[1:03:12] >> ordinance passes.
[1:03:13] >> thank you.
[1:03:14] >> item number 19.
[1:03:22] >> good afternoon, Madam Mayor,
[1:03:25] and west pierson -- wes person,
[1:03:28] assistant city manager, item
[1:03:28] number 19 is a first reading
[1:03:30] ordinance approving the lease
[1:03:31] purchase agreement between the
[1:03:34] city and the texas state
[1:03:38] aquarium.
[1:03:39] We initially presented this on
[1:03:40] September 30th, the concept and
[1:03:43] I would like to remind you of
[1:03:45] some of the things
[1:03:46] that we talked about on that
[1:03:50] date.
[1:03:50] This is a significant
[1:03:51] investment the texas state
[1:03:53] aquarium is making expanding
[1:03:56] the current building by 65,000
[1:03:58] square feet and walk through
[1:04:02] the lease purchase terms. It
[1:04:05] will be a 50 year lease and the
[1:04:08] requirement would be they offer
[1:04:09] the association some of the
[1:04:11] continuing offering the
[1:04:15] facilities.
[1:04:16] There's no financial obligation
[1:04:17] for the city and the
[1:04:17] association May exercise the
[1:04:18] option to purchase
[1:04:23] plan improvement after -- first
[1:04:24] they have to spend the minimum
[1:04:25] of $45,000 investment and they
[1:04:29] have to complete the expansion
[1:04:29] and open to the public and
[1:04:33] third you need to complete the
[1:04:34] payment of outstanding debt
[1:04:36] obligation.
[1:04:40] The city sold revenue tax
[1:04:41] obligation notes that they have
[1:04:46] been paying forever since their
[1:04:47] then diligently and they have
[1:04:49] to finalize the payment on tax
[1:04:49] notes.
[1:04:53] >>> additionally the provisions
[1:04:54] will be -- fund provisions will
[1:04:55] be placed in special warranty
[1:04:58] to protect the intended use of
[1:04:59] the facility.
[1:05:04] If there was a desire for the
[1:05:04] texas state aquarium to sell it
[1:05:06] in the future the city will
[1:05:10] have the right of up refusal
[1:05:11] for the purchase and the land
[1:05:13] of improvements.
[1:05:13] Second there's a requirement
[1:05:16] for the city to repay -- for
[1:05:20] them to repay the city the
[1:05:21] initial $14.5 million that the
[1:05:25] city put in that it was built
[1:05:29] in the late 80's.
[1:05:30] The special warranty deed
[1:05:31] required that there will be a
[1:05:33] 75 year restricted covenant
[1:05:36] that will require the facility
[1:05:41] to be operated as an aquarium,
[1:05:41] there will be a referred her
[1:05:42] clause in place and there was a
[1:05:43] violation of that restrictive
[1:05:45] covenant been the land and
[1:05:47] improvements will revert active
[1:05:48] ownership of -- to the
[1:05:49] ownership of the city.
[1:05:51] I believe there's a wastewater
[1:05:54] -- solid stormwater drain that
[1:05:56] is currently in the footprint
[1:05:59] of the property and part of it
[1:06:01] is
[1:06:01] underneath the existing
[1:06:02] aquarium and the expansion
[1:06:08] built over it again the texas
[1:06:09] association will be required to
[1:06:11] maintain and repair that.
[1:06:12] And if there was a desire to
[1:06:15] relocate that line they will
[1:06:19] have to pay for that and also
[1:06:20] provide the easeman necessary
[1:06:21] to make that happen.
[1:06:27] >> our work on the agreement is
[1:06:28] finalized.
[1:06:28] We have it for your
[1:06:32] consideration today and he will
[1:06:33] be the first reading for the
[1:06:34] ordinance in the second reading
[1:06:34] is required by the city charter
[1:06:36] will take place on November 18
[1:06:41] of this year and the final
[1:06:42] lease will go into effect on
[1:06:46] January 172015.
[1:06:46] I stand ready to answer any
[1:06:48] question you May have and happy
[1:06:52] to answer any question the
[1:06:52] public May have.
[1:06:55] >>> Mr. Scott Mr. Scott.
[1:06:58] >> I am glad we are able to
[1:07:01] take a breath. Now we are
[1:07:04] talking about something that's
[1:07:05] very cool.
[1:07:08] I was thinking about the eyes
[1:07:10] firmly focus on the future.
[1:07:13] Our eyes are firmly focused on
[1:07:15] the future.
[1:07:16] So the lexington breaking
[1:07:18] cutting the ribbon on the
[1:07:20] improvement of their facility.
[1:07:23] We have a $45 million
[1:07:26] expansion it texas state
[1:07:30] aquarium, that's phenomenal as
[1:07:31] far as aquarium goes that will
[1:07:32] be talked about across the
[1:07:35] country and in 2015 the project
[1:07:36] -- project will come on board
[1:07:36] fully.
[1:07:40] I mean this is a great time to
[1:07:43] be in corpus christi and I want
[1:07:44] to talk about that for a minute
[1:07:47] because we spent the last 20
[1:07:48] minutes talking about some
[1:07:51] negative stuff, this is good
[1:07:53] stuff, corpus needs dues
[1:07:55] delivery and I have no money in
[1:07:58] my pocket by the way.
[1:07:59] My wife carol did not give me
[1:08:00] my allowance this week.
[1:08:03] This is a great time, this is
[1:08:05] great for
[1:08:06] corpus christi and the aquarium
[1:08:08] is great for corpus christi and
[1:08:09] I want to thank you for working
[1:08:11] with them and they felt like it
[1:08:14] was a good conversation and i
[1:08:17] wanted to take of the breath
[1:08:19] and change the rhetoric and
[1:08:20] change
[1:08:24] the energy level so we can just
[1:08:28] pause and take note of profound
[1:08:31] positive project not only
[1:08:33] corpus christi this the coastal
[1:08:34] bend.
[1:08:40] >> thank you.
[1:08:41] Mrs. Mcintyre.
[1:08:41] >> thank you.
[1:08:42] I want to briefly echo that.
[1:08:42] I met an employee
[1:08:44] that I've known before and she
[1:08:46] talked about how excited the
[1:08:47] employees are about the
[1:08:50] expansion and having been there
[1:08:52] for the opening.
[1:08:56] It's going to be amazing.
[1:09:00] I am happy that we are able to
[1:09:01] extend it, they will be able to
[1:09:02] do this and have the lease
[1:09:04] option performance-based lease
[1:09:05] option available it's a great
[1:09:05] idea.
[1:09:06] Thank you.
[1:09:11] >> thank you.
[1:09:11] Anyone from the public who
[1:09:12] wants a -- to comment on number
[1:09:13] 19?
[1:09:14] Mr. Alonso.
[1:09:28] >> I -- my chair is broken.
[1:09:33] I live in -- I would like to
[1:09:34] agree with you, I would like to
[1:09:34] say that once in a while you
[1:09:38] guys something positive.
[1:09:39] That's animal enormous impact
[1:09:43] in the city.
[1:09:44] That's an example in the
[1:09:47] private sector and local
[1:09:48] government to work together.
[1:09:51] I remember years ago -- and all
[1:09:55] the negative impact and
[1:09:57] comments.
[1:09:59] Let me tell did board of
[1:10:00] directors and executive
[1:10:04] director,
[1:10:05] the public don't know this, I
[1:10:05] don't know what percentage the
[1:10:07] people will go to the aquarium
[1:10:09] or visitors I don't know what
[1:10:12] percentage, do you know?
[1:10:13] It's important we tell the
[1:10:15] public because they come and
[1:10:18] they use the hotels, they come
[1:10:21] and the rent our cars, they come
[1:10:22] in they buy groceries whatever
[1:10:23] they need
[1:10:28] and contributes to the tax base.
[1:10:32] In the general fund, it goes to
[1:10:33] fixing infrastructure.
[1:10:37] What better that we'll will
[1:10:38] have people and -- we will have
[1:10:39] people in and outside of the
[1:10:40] community to contribute to the
[1:10:42] infrastructure we need and
[1:10:45] things we need.
[1:10:48] Why can't people concentrate on
[1:10:48] that.
[1:10:49] I don't understand thank you.
[1:10:53] >> anyone else from the audience
[1:10:54] , on number 19?
[1:11:00] >> passage of ordinance number
[1:11:01] 19 on its first reading mayor
[1:11:02] nelda martinez.
[1:11:06] >> [Roll call].
[1:11:12] >> the ordinance passes.
[1:11:17] >> we will be taking that to
[1:11:17] next presentation item -- the
[1:11:18] next presentation item number
[1:11:22] 20 with the general economic
[1:11:22] development corporation and
[1:11:23] then 21 texas department of
[1:11:24] transportation projects and
[1:11:25] then we will take a short break
[1:11:28] and then finish up the meeting
[1:11:30] with item number 22.
[1:11:34] >> Mr. Culvert since.
[1:11:35] >> and Mr. Leroux.
[1:11:38] >> great to have you here.
[1:11:39] >> nice to be here with a
[1:11:39] different hat on.
[1:11:41] >> welcome.
[1:11:42] >> thank you.
[1:11:44] >> pleasure to be here.
[1:11:47] I have
[1:11:51] my my -- emily's right here.
[1:11:54] Emily martinez to make sure I
[1:12:07] don't mess anything up.
[1:12:08] The port commission meetings
[1:12:09] they don't -- port commission
[1:12:09] meetings they don't let me do
[1:12:12] that.
[1:12:12] They give a lot more power to
[1:12:13] people here.
[1:12:14] >> I start -- start off with
[1:12:16] employment I set there and it
[1:12:18] continues to grow with the
[1:12:22] August numbers -- mining,
[1:12:26] logging and construction, it's
[1:12:30] up over a thousand.
[1:12:33] Leisure and hospitality almost
[1:12:34] 2000.
[1:12:35] What you were talking about was
[1:12:38] what's going on, you can see in
[1:12:40] the employment numbers and we
[1:12:43] see it every day and my other
[1:12:45] role at the port.
[1:12:45] Very strong numbers and
[1:12:47] continues to grow
[1:12:51] and we don't see any pushback.
[1:12:52] Activity, this this attraction,
[1:12:52] I -- business attraction, I
[1:12:54] will talk about those and what
[1:12:55] we're trying to do with
[1:12:57] attracting new business and is
[1:12:57] existing industry at the same
[1:13:00] time. We seem to be in a.
[1:13:03] Where not that we are taking a
[1:13:03] pause, but
[1:13:07] there's been so much activity
[1:13:08] in the past five years that we
[1:13:09] are now working through the
[1:13:10] projects that we have and I
[1:13:12] think that is a very good thing.
[1:13:15] If you look around and you are
[1:13:15] all familiar because you have
[1:13:17] worked with all of them both
[1:13:20] you and the state
[1:13:27] tcp oh four -- those projects
[1:13:28] are already under construction,
[1:13:30] tcp oh is on the second page
[1:13:32] already. If you haven't been
[1:13:35] on the site in three months it
[1:13:36] made amazing projects in -- and
[1:13:39] the last time I talk to them
[1:13:41] that expected to be finished
[1:13:45] before the end of next year.
[1:13:45] Tremendous amount of activity
[1:13:48] on the existing industry, both
[1:13:50] our existing base, whether
[1:13:53] flint hills or the o or leisure
[1:13:56] projects, what we like to refer
[1:13:56] -- liked referred to as -- like
[1:13:57] to refer to as the new line of
[1:14:00] energy or new star and magellan
[1:14:05] and claims and traffic or are
[1:14:05] all proceeding with major
[1:14:06] projects in those -- and those
[1:14:09] projects are either in
[1:14:10] permitting or construction.
[1:14:10] There's major activity across
[1:14:15] the board and in all sectors of
[1:14:15] the community.
[1:14:16] The city has been a tremendous
[1:14:20] part of those discussions and
[1:14:21] with the way the projects are
[1:14:23] proceeding and the mayor has
[1:14:26] said several times, it really
[1:14:27] wouldn't happen without the
[1:14:29] regional effort with those
[1:14:30] counties and the city on both
[1:14:33] sides of the ship channel and
[1:14:36] each side of the they
[1:14:39] perceiving.
[1:14:40] Shamir is the biggest project
[1:14:43] of all $13 billion, they have
[1:14:46] finalized the final
[1:14:47] environmental review and that
[1:14:50] review is completed they are
[1:14:51] now in the waiting phase, they
[1:14:53] expect to have the permit first
[1:14:56] quarter of 2015 and be under --
[1:14:56] the under construction next
[1:14:59] summer.
[1:15:00] Tremendous amount of activity
[1:15:02] just continues, edc staff is
[1:15:04] continuing to work with your
[1:15:06] staff, with both county sun
[1:15:09] making sure that all of the
[1:15:10] incentives and process are in
[1:15:13] place and we just see a very
[1:15:16] right 2015 and we have several
[1:15:19] new projects that we are
[1:15:20] working on and hope to bring to
[1:15:21] fruition
[1:15:25] in 2015 as we get closer, the
[1:15:26] staff will be briefing you on
[1:15:35] those.
[1:15:36] This is in the industry update
[1:15:36] and I mention all that's going
[1:15:37] on and edc, staff and the board
[1:15:38] continue to meet with industry
[1:15:38] throughout the region
[1:15:40] and will continue to do that.
[1:15:45] The only note I point out use
[1:15:48] on agricultural workers, 650,
[1:15:51] we see that with cost and
[1:15:53] warehousing.
[1:15:56] A lot of decent year for cotton.
[1:15:58] If you have driven around
[1:16:00] throughout you will see cotton
[1:16:02] starting to be moved and it's a
[1:16:05] major project for this region
[1:16:06] on the agricultural side of the
[1:16:09] port, we will see between now
[1:16:10] and March significant movement
[1:16:11] of
[1:16:14] soybeans and other projects to
[1:16:14] asia.
[1:16:17] A huge crop in the midwest
[1:16:18] which will be moving -- be
[1:16:19] moving here biovail and we will
[1:16:23] supplement that 650 person
[1:16:25] number over the next six months
[1:16:25] .
[1:16:29] >>> I will be glad to answer
[1:16:29] any questions.
[1:16:31] >> Mr. Scott.
[1:16:36] >> some of the second phase of
[1:16:39] tip co-is much larger than the
[1:16:42] first phase. Oh, my God
[1:16:43] that's monumental and you go
[1:16:46] know what to you see second, is
[1:16:47] there a relationship?
[1:16:52] >> what you see is probably 10%
[1:16:52] final construction.
[1:16:58] >> just imagine 90% more the
[1:16:59] mayor and I were there about a
[1:17:02] year and a half ago and toward
[1:17:03] their plant and she knows the
[1:17:04] size of the plant. It's
[1:17:05] incredible.
[1:17:11] I should have
[1:17:12] mentioned tcpo that will have a
[1:17:12] 10-inch and economic council on
[1:17:15] thursday. They want to sign an
[1:17:18] mou with the region and the
[1:17:19] mayor was there a year and a
[1:17:22] half ago and roland mauer and i
[1:17:27] were there would would -- and
[1:17:28] those I know in August and we
[1:17:30] met with the group again and
[1:17:31] this is commission for the
[1:17:33] whole region and it's a very
[1:17:36] large very large economic
[1:17:37] development,
[1:17:39] they are bringing people this
[1:17:43] week to look at the second tier
[1:17:44] of tcpo.
[1:17:45] What other industries can we
[1:17:47] attract in the region --
[1:17:49] region not just related to
[1:17:52] tcpo, but want to get a
[1:17:53] foothold in the united states
[1:17:55] and north america. We will be
[1:17:56] having some meetings later this
[1:17:58] week and hopeful that the next
[1:18:01] step which we look far beyond
[1:18:06] tcpo will happen very soon.
[1:18:09] >>> I was laughing the other
[1:18:09] day I felt the number was 31
[1:18:14] billion in development and
[1:18:14] Chairman Holly said it was 32
[1:18:15] billion the only thing I can
[1:18:17] think of was 30, 31 billion got
[1:18:19] together and had a baby and the
[1:18:28] joey the numbers growing,
[1:18:28] growing a billion here or a
[1:18:29] billion there and I don't know
[1:18:30] any other community in the
[1:18:33] country that's talking about
[1:18:34] 32 billion, places like san
[1:18:38] francisco or los angeles can
[1:18:39] say -- say stuff like 32
[1:18:41] billion.
[1:18:42] We get kind of wrapped up, we
[1:18:45] get none because it went from 31
[1:18:48] to 32 and we get wrapped up in
[1:18:50] negative seeing things and
[1:18:51] people outside of corpus
[1:18:59] christi's, they are saying
[1:18:59] what is happening down there
[1:19:00] and certainly because of us,
[1:19:01] no, because of the work you do
[1:19:02] and edc.
[1:19:06] I want to -- roland and I are
[1:19:10] good close personal friends.
[1:19:11] He is leaving san antonio
[1:19:16] tomorrow to go on a trip.
[1:19:17] >> I know he is already there.
[1:19:19] >> ways to travel together and
[1:19:22] paid my own way by the way.
[1:19:24] He's a close personal friend.
[1:19:26] This organization has not
[1:19:30] missed a beat. You came on
[1:19:30] board and shepherd in and you
[1:19:36] have not missed a beat and
[1:19:36] economic development
[1:19:37] corporation.
[1:19:38] That's a big thing for me
[1:19:41] representing the city and I
[1:19:42] feel good telling the
[1:19:45] constituents that we have a
[1:19:46] great organization and its not
[1:19:47] -- it's not built on one person
[1:19:52] , it's a team that works. Even
[1:19:53] if one person is not there.
[1:19:54] I want to say thank you for
[1:19:54] your work
[1:19:55] and you have done a great job.
[1:19:59] >> we have an excellent team
[1:20:00] and an excellent board of
[1:20:02] directors.
[1:20:04] They have started the search
[1:20:09] that is underway right now. I
[1:20:10] am hopeful the sooner the
[1:20:14] better,
[1:20:14] that by the end of the year we
[1:20:15] can make a selection for a new
[1:20:16] executive director and someone
[1:20:20] will be on board within 30 to
[1:20:25] 45 days after that.
[1:20:26] It's moving well. We expect to
[1:20:30] see some candidates for review
[1:20:33] by the selection committee of
[1:20:36] the edc within the next 60 days
[1:20:36] .
[1:20:39] >> thank you, Mr. Loeb.
[1:20:42] >> I was wondering there's a
[1:20:43] lot of news right now that the
[1:20:49] price of oil is falling.
[1:20:49] What effect do you think that
[1:20:50] hassle believes -- hassle and
[1:20:51] leads we've gotten in a economy
[1:20:52] in general?
[1:20:56] >> so far we haven't -- I
[1:20:56] talked to some of our new
[1:20:59] customers, I haven't talked --
[1:21:02] seen anybody say anything that
[1:21:06] they are backing off from
[1:21:06] anything.
[1:21:07] I assume if there's a further
[1:21:08] significant drop in the
[1:21:10] eyes of oil when did you -- you
[1:21:13] got down below 60 that you will
[1:21:13] start start to see some
[1:21:17] slowdown in some of the
[1:21:18] activity and probably some
[1:21:18] impact on some of the natural
[1:21:21] gas projects. Right now
[1:21:23] everybody is proceeding as
[1:21:26] planned and don't foresee any
[1:21:26] changes.
[1:21:29] >> you always wonder how that
[1:21:30] affects the margins.
[1:21:34] >> Mr. Leroux well done.
[1:21:36] >> good to see you all.
[1:21:41] >> texas dot.
[1:21:47] >> valerie gray, interim
[1:21:48] executive director of public
[1:21:50] works.
[1:21:54] A presentation on the update on
[1:21:55] texas dot yearly projects and
[1:21:56] here to present is
[1:21:59] the district and engineer of the
[1:22:00] district, Mr. Mr. Lonnie [
[1:22:01] Audio not understandable].
[1:22:05] >> welcome.
[1:22:08] >> congratulations on the
[1:22:08] election.
[1:22:14] >> district engineer for texas
[1:22:17] dot, I will update you on the
[1:22:17] project.
[1:22:22] A lot going on. I heard this
[1:22:22] morning there's a lot of growth
[1:22:23] and with growth comes
[1:22:25] an opportunity for construction
[1:22:28] projects and we have a really
[1:22:31] dynamic large construction
[1:22:33] program currently and I see we
[1:22:36] should move north with good
[1:22:40] fortune coming up sometime
[1:22:41] after the first of the year we
[1:22:45] hope to get the project underway
[1:22:51] . You have seen a lot of work
[1:22:52] going on in of $700 million in
[1:22:52] investment going on right now
[1:22:54] in the area.
[1:22:55] A list of those projects there
[1:22:59] and whole lot of -- one of the
[1:22:59] things we saw coming in a lot
[1:23:00] of the freeway system and road
[1:23:03] system with the pavement
[1:23:03] condition really below what we
[1:23:10] would want in a freeway system.
[1:23:10] We have gone in and invested
[1:23:11] about 18.7 million in the last
[1:23:16] year that's 358 I have a list
[1:23:20] of those and you see work in 386
[1:23:21] in the project on park road 22,
[1:23:23] frontage road near the mall
[1:23:24] area.
[1:23:29] That was an an area were we had
[1:23:30] to pull some funds together we
[1:23:31] used -- use the general
[1:23:32] district funds to take care of
[1:23:37] some of that as well as some
[1:23:37] eto funds and we have that
[1:23:39] going on in the great separation
[1:23:41] at tellico and
[1:23:44] we have some travel lanes and
[1:23:46] upgrading freeways, we have to
[1:23:49] design build projects they are
[1:23:52] not in nueces county that they
[1:23:54] are close by.
[1:23:55] To get 69 on the number one
[1:23:58] that's underway, get that
[1:24:00] designation from corpus christi
[1:24:02] into kingsville, that's one --
[1:24:03] this one of the goals of the
[1:24:05] committee and one of our says
[1:24:09] well.
[1:24:10] That's $79 million job if you
[1:24:11] have been to bishop
[1:24:12] we will -- you will see that
[1:24:15] were progressing very well we
[1:24:16] hired a group to design and
[1:24:18] build and there's a short
[1:24:22] maintenance periods tacked onto
[1:24:23] the end of that in that project
[1:24:26] as well as the harbour bridge
[1:24:26] -- harbor bridge, is in
[1:24:29] procurement
[1:24:30] and we have $70 million of
[1:24:32] other design projects that we
[1:24:36] are working on in the largest
[1:24:39] scoped project on that would be
[1:24:44] the ramp reversal. 358 on the
[1:24:48] southbound and eastbound down
[1:24:51] north padre.
[1:24:52] Some of the the surface project
[1:24:57] are listed. You have seen them.
[1:25:00] We have talked numerous town
[1:25:01] time on park road 22 and those
[1:25:03] projects they have a surface
[1:25:05] that are 10 to
[1:25:08] 15-years-old and days are
[1:25:10] starting to get rough.
[1:25:13] We have sporadic failures.
[1:25:14] We had to do emergency repair
[1:25:17] work.
[1:25:18] You have gotten into that
[1:25:19] heavily and I will not go
[1:25:22] through -- that is something
[1:25:26] that will continue next year.
[1:25:27] 286 is one that we would do
[1:25:29] maintenance funds and across
[1:25:31] town going back toward
[1:25:35] loretto street tie in about the
[1:25:40] interchange however it's laid
[1:25:40] out, we don't want to resurface
[1:25:43] something and get it torn back
[1:25:45] up with the harbor project.
[1:25:53] That's high on our priority.
[1:25:56] Great separation and tellico,
[1:25:58] that's a project and po funded
[1:26:01] with prop 12 contractor bae and
[1:26:04] that is working well and $13
[1:26:08] million job.
[1:26:09] We hope to have that thing
[1:26:10] completed late spring early
[1:26:13] summer of next year.
[1:26:14] It is driven by safety.
[1:26:18] As well as the plan to get a
[1:26:22] controlled facility eventually.
[1:26:24] 2444 staples street.
[1:26:27] That project some time back, it
[1:26:31] was a prop 12 project and we
[1:26:32] had time restriction on the
[1:26:32] funding and the city worked
[1:26:36] with us and we had right-of-way
[1:26:37] to purchase and we are getting
[1:26:37] very close to having that
[1:26:42] wrapped up and -- will be
[1:26:43] building that and we are
[1:26:45] targeting mid-November and
[1:26:48] anticipate completion.
[1:26:50] It's about 2.5 year project.
[1:26:54] It's an urban project you are
[1:26:55] building how far road at a --
[1:26:55] half a road at a time and
[1:26:58] maintaining traffic volume.
[1:27:02] Running around 7500 and that
[1:27:03] project is about $24.4 million
[1:27:10] project on whoever wrote the
[1:27:10] project is been underway for a
[1:27:13] while we started in January 14
[1:27:16] and the limits go from 2861
[1:27:16] yorktown boulevard and building
[1:27:19] a five lane urban section.
[1:27:22] They're building that project
[1:27:24] and we anticipate
[1:27:28] construction next spring and
[1:27:29] that's roughly $9.9 million
[1:27:35] project.
[1:27:35] The one in 361 -- one that is
[1:27:38] important important --
[1:27:39] that will make an urban section
[1:27:42] and add pedestrian pass it goes
[1:27:45] from avenue g-tube beach access
[1:27:49] road one and he will be similar
[1:27:50] to weber road project where we
[1:27:51] have four lanes with a raised
[1:27:52] median and curb and gutter
[1:27:56] section and protected left
[1:28:00] turns and -- we are starting
[1:28:02] work in building the project
[1:28:03] and they will be starting in
[1:28:07] November.
[1:28:08] It will take roughly two years
[1:28:09] to build and it's a $13 million
[1:28:15] project to get onto 86 project
[1:28:15] it's our largest project
[1:28:18] underway in the city, extending
[1:28:21] the freeway out from saratoga
[1:28:24] to weber. The contractor
[1:28:27] contractor -- they began working
[1:28:28] in March of this year and
[1:28:30] completion date I wish it was
[1:28:38] winter of 15, it is --
[1:28:39] optimistically between you and
[1:28:41] me I would love to be in the
[1:28:43] end, but we are looking at
[1:28:47] 2017, a three-year project.
[1:28:52] That's optimism, it will be the
[1:28:53] full complement freeway and
[1:28:56] have overpasses at -- landfill
[1:29:04] as well as weber road.
[1:29:05] I 69, I highlight the two
[1:29:07] projects, it's part of our goal
[1:29:08] to get the interstate
[1:29:11] designation down to kingsville
[1:29:12] and ultimately further south
[1:29:18] into the valley and they are
[1:29:18] building a portion from state
[1:29:19] highway 40 -- state highway
[1:29:20] 442892 in -- and the project
[1:29:23] has been going on since
[1:29:27] 13 and we should be completed
[1:29:31] close to next year and it's
[1:29:31] 11.3 million another project
[1:29:35] adjacent of that moving south
[1:29:39] from f and 892 in robstown
[1:29:40] 2886, austin bridge and their
[1:29:41] limited
[1:29:55] >>> whenever you're ready,
[1:29:55] rick.
[1:30:08] >> sorry, Mr. -- can you
[1:30:09] confirm only because I don't
[1:30:09] see a live screen, is it
[1:30:10] because I see the presentation
[1:30:11] does it mean we are ready to go?
[1:30:11] On the screen?
[1:30:12] Thank you.
[1:30:17] >> there we are.
[1:30:18] Let's go and move forward,
[1:30:18] thank you, Ms. Womack.
[1:30:25] >> I have as I was mentioning
[1:30:27] there's a lot of emphasis going
[1:30:31] on on I 69, we will be left
[1:30:37] with the cap that driscoll on
[1:30:37] we will complete the connection
[1:30:40] between robstown arai 37 and
[1:30:41] kingsville.
[1:30:46] That project is in the process
[1:30:47] of getting into the right of
[1:30:49] acquisition they have coming to
[1:30:50] agreement with the county to --
[1:30:51] county to contribute funds on
[1:30:53] that to pay the 10%.
[1:30:56] We have the maps and we will be
[1:30:59] going to purchasing the
[1:31:03] property in the near future.
[1:31:10] This is a shot of the project I
[1:31:11] mentioned earlier the design
[1:31:11] build project showing you
[1:31:12] kingsville looking north on a
[1:31:13] -- and the project is well
[1:31:14] underway at this point and it's
[1:31:18] a design build between austin
[1:31:22] bridge and road and a limited.
[1:31:23] Pardon me?
[1:31:27] The harbor bridge,
[1:31:28] we have worked it, there's been
[1:31:30] a tremendous working
[1:31:35] relationship with the city staff
[1:31:36] the port of corpus christi has
[1:31:39] really been a great partner and
[1:31:42] as well as our city and county
[1:31:44] noesis &-ampersand-and sign
[1:31:49] patrizio and we are in the
[1:31:51] environmental process and
[1:31:55] there's work to be done and
[1:31:56] targeting try to get a record
[1:31:59] of decision and we could move
[1:32:02] forward in January of 15 in the
[1:32:08] final request for proposal
[1:32:08] posted October 2nd.
[1:32:09] We have seven proposals come in
[1:32:15] on the project and we go
[1:32:16] through a ranking system and
[1:32:17] four of them move forward and
[1:32:17] we are working with four teams
[1:32:18] of developers
[1:32:21] and it's a design build.
[1:32:22] Basically you have aspects of
[1:32:24] the project delivery in one
[1:32:26] contract. They will design it,
[1:32:30] build it, they have inspection
[1:32:32] and we have inspection as well
[1:32:33] and then they will maintain the
[1:32:38] project. It's a signature type
[1:32:40] bridge, very large structure
[1:32:46] and it will be a cable stay
[1:32:46] because of the link of the span
[1:32:50] over the channel to cover cover
[1:32:53] -- to have nothing obstructing
[1:32:54] navigation in the harbor and
[1:32:57] ship channel.
[1:32:57] We will have a 25 year
[1:32:58] maintenance.
[1:33:01] On this project and that's
[1:33:02] where we went out in the
[1:33:05] proposal and they will maintain
[1:33:07] the facility to a level of
[1:33:13] satisfaction. To build a high-
[1:33:14] quality product because you
[1:33:16] have a long-term maintenance
[1:33:17] which will be cumbersome on the
[1:33:21] project of this nature.
[1:33:22] Our target condition award is
[1:33:22] in the March March 2015
[1:33:25] commission meeting. It will
[1:33:28] take about six months maybe less
[1:33:35] for the notice to proceed. It
[1:33:36] will be estimated to begin
[1:33:37] toward the latter part of next
[1:33:37] year a project that will take
[1:33:41] four years to construct and it
[1:33:41] will time to take the old
[1:33:42] structure and approaches to it
[1:33:49] and our schedule is using the
[1:33:54] new structure in 2020.
[1:33:58] Another project -- that's high-
[1:34:01] profile for the npl and the
[1:34:02] community is to do the rep
[1:34:04] reversal and we have the
[1:34:08] project funded for letting the
[1:34:09] January 2016 a year from this
[1:34:11] January and it will reverse the
[1:34:16] ramps on -- weber, everhart,
[1:34:17] staples and we will get as far
[1:34:19] as we can we are in development
[1:34:22] and we don't have final estimate
[1:34:23] we will take the critical one
[1:34:26] first.
[1:34:30] We are taking care of those
[1:34:31] during the holiday season where
[1:34:32] we have severe index and the
[1:34:35] main system
[1:34:36] that's a project and high-
[1:34:36] priority from a safety
[1:34:40] standpoint and traffic flow of
[1:34:43] the loan 358.
[1:34:44] His 30 -- this $38 million
[1:34:46] primarily our largest and feel
[1:34:54] project at this time. I think
[1:34:55] that's all I have.
[1:34:55] I will open up for -- the
[1:34:56] question of dialogue.
[1:35:00] >> Mr. Scott?
[1:35:03] What me through this outside
[1:35:04] again.
[1:35:08] On the south side we have
[1:35:09] extension across town is that
[1:35:10] okay?
[1:35:11] That will be done at the end of
[1:35:13] this year?
[1:35:17] Year 2015 [Laughter] I was
[1:35:19] optimistic area okay.
[1:35:23] That is a 44 million.
[1:35:24] >> $45 million.
[1:35:29] >> that will be done by end of
[1:35:29] 17?.
[1:35:31] >> yes, sir 17.
[1:35:34] >> south staples expansion five
[1:35:39] lanes, how much and how long?
[1:35:46] $24 million, 24 million 20.4 we
[1:35:47] have some right away sin
[1:35:48] utilities we had to get cleared
[1:35:50] it was tied to the proposition
[1:35:54] 12 funding and there will be a
[1:35:55] time to get the right-of-way
[1:36:00] and utility adjusted and the
[1:36:01] city has been working with us
[1:36:01] to get the adjustment completed
[1:36:02] and we anticipate the completion
[1:36:05] in summer of 17.
[1:36:06] It's about a 30 months project.
[1:36:08] >> it's going to be finished by
[1:36:11] the same time question.
[1:36:12] >> it will be close.
[1:36:17] >> the challenges you are
[1:36:18] building a 10 little pieces
[1:36:19] because you have to maintain
[1:36:21] traffic itself big fruit print
[1:36:24] to work with it's a lot less
[1:36:28] work, but it's tougher work to
[1:36:29] get reduction.
[1:36:29] >> it's five lane, four lanes
[1:36:32] with continuous?
[1:36:33] >> yes, sir, after you get past
[1:36:34] the curve
[1:36:35] their shoulders on it as well.
[1:36:36] >> okay.
[1:36:39] No center needed right now?
[1:36:40] >> no not in that area.
[1:36:45] >> the weather extension is how
[1:36:46] much and how long.
[1:36:53] >> it's $9.9 million project.
[1:36:56] We will be done sometime next
[1:36:56] year.
[1:37:00] >> spring time of 15.
[1:37:03] >> the fortune.
[1:37:07] >> that the city's doing under
[1:37:09] reconstruction project to tie
[1:37:13] in the site south side grade
[1:37:15] yorktown, staples, everhart
[1:37:21] airline and no -- on the bond
[1:37:22] election, I think if we are
[1:37:24] successful we will complete the
[1:37:25] newly constructed bridge on the
[1:37:29] south side and you are giving
[1:37:30] your improvements and -- doing
[1:37:31] your improvements and we can
[1:37:32] wake up at the end of 2017 and
[1:37:34] go okay you can get from a to b
[1:37:42] in five different ways and not
[1:37:43] have to reconstruct the rack
[1:37:44] and stealing the rough roads.
[1:37:45] I want to thank you for that.
[1:37:48] >> one -- wendy we looked at
[1:37:50] and martin can come for an
[1:37:51] answer
[1:37:54] specific questions, one of the
[1:37:55] challenges, how do we handle
[1:37:59] traffic, you want to be route
[1:38:02] weather and then you hit
[1:38:03] another construction project in
[1:38:05] the interchange their, whether
[1:38:05] and to 80 -- weber and 286 cost
[1:38:06] him
[1:38:10] if got milestones to incentivize
[1:38:12] expedite construction, we added
[1:38:17] some lanes left turn lanes.
[1:38:20] Our contractors that we have
[1:38:21] the will be looking for ways to
[1:38:24] extend I traffic you we are
[1:38:27] trying to build it.
[1:38:30] We have a lot of construction
[1:38:35] 175 -- been a long time since
[1:38:35] we had a volume like that of
[1:38:38] work and we have looked at how
[1:38:41] we can incentivize. This
[1:38:44] incentivize and adding some
[1:38:47] design features.
[1:38:50] Your union evening commutes and
[1:38:53] morning commutes have you get
[1:38:54] them through their -- their him
[1:38:55] build a left turn lanes first
[1:38:56] and get them place for storage
[1:38:57] and traffic wanted to get
[1:39:03] through I bet you he will make
[1:39:04] adjustments as being in, the
[1:39:05] traffic.
[1:39:10] >> if that's completed -- if we
[1:39:18] have rep reversal, you might
[1:39:20] have people go back down lever,
[1:39:24] staples, to get in the sb id,
[1:39:28] to get on sb id it easier.
[1:39:30] >> they -- it will be very
[1:39:32] similar to what we have in
[1:39:33] front of the mall going
[1:39:33] westbound.
[1:39:35] >> I think those work very
[1:39:35] well.
[1:39:37] >> for safety and efficient.
[1:39:43] >> the lighting of the bridge,
[1:39:44] it's iconic fascinating to hear
[1:39:47] people talk about that is that
[1:39:48] included in the new bridge?
[1:39:49] >>
[1:39:50] we will be some lighting
[1:39:52] features, how they come up with
[1:39:56] it is -- bishop harmon's and
[1:39:58] expectations on the harbor
[1:40:01] bridge.
[1:40:05] I thought it was well done, I
[1:40:07] know we have talked
[1:40:11] scott and mcintyre.
[1:40:14] >> those teams they are trying
[1:40:20] to compete to provide the best
[1:40:22] project project.
[1:40:22] Not just the cheapest cost it's
[1:40:25] the best value in this you
[1:40:26] score these things out be
[1:40:30] furnished them -- to prioritize
[1:40:32] these and we work with several
[1:40:34] members. These are really
[1:40:36] important and we furnished that
[1:40:38] is referenced document to the
[1:40:40] development teams to consider.
[1:40:44] >> when the lighting came out I
[1:40:46] was a take it or the leavitt
[1:40:49] kind of guy and people talk
[1:40:52] about it and they talk about it
[1:40:53] in context of other iconic
[1:40:56] structures all over the world,
[1:41:03] my last thought was lights on
[1:41:10] for safety.
[1:41:11] You know there are parts of the
[1:41:12] state in country that have the
[1:41:12] concept were you come over and
[1:41:14] sit in certain area and it
[1:41:16] doesn't have adequate or good
[1:41:19] traffic flow as you might want
[1:41:22] and they have the signs that say
[1:41:23] welcome to the island lights on
[1:41:25] for safety and
[1:41:29] it said welcome to port -- just
[1:41:33] the thought of until we get 361
[1:41:38] and we all wanted, it might
[1:41:39] increase safety if everybody
[1:41:43] turns there headlights on.
[1:41:44] That might be a conversation
[1:41:44] for you
[1:41:52] in the city. That's the way we
[1:41:52] can provide additional safety
[1:41:55] to a lot of people who come here
[1:41:57] and if they have their
[1:42:00] headlights on it might reduce
[1:42:00] some traffic.
[1:42:02] >> I appreciate that the
[1:42:02] condition.
[1:42:07] >> tonight -- can I interrupt
[1:42:07] for a minute, because there's
[1:42:09] no turning leaner middling the
[1:42:12] shoulders practically nil and
[1:42:15] passing is difficult and they
[1:42:17] have two-lane going both ways
[1:42:18] and considering the compounding
[1:42:21] traffic and increase -- the
[1:42:22] increase in tourism and frankly
[1:42:26] in rooftops sure would like to
[1:42:27] see lights on for safety.
[1:42:30] >> I went out there to the
[1:42:30] taste -- .
[1:42:31] To the taste of the island and
[1:42:37] at the port royale and that is
[1:42:40] high-risk area.
[1:42:41] Actually think that something
[1:42:44] we could
[1:42:45] get something achievable in the
[1:42:49] partnership with signs, lights
[1:42:51] on for safety at a minimum that
[1:42:52] would be great.
[1:42:57] >> we do have planned projects
[1:42:58] that's not funded at this time
[1:42:59] but in conjunction that we
[1:43:00] appreciate that.
[1:43:02] >> I think you are doing
[1:43:06] everything you can to improve
[1:43:08] day.
[1:43:14] They could try this concept, I
[1:43:14] love riding a bicycle so I am
[1:43:16] now all into lights if you're
[1:43:20] going to hit me I want to
[1:43:20] eliminate the excuse that you
[1:43:23] did not see me.
[1:43:25] if you turn the lights on it
[1:43:26] provides an extra level of
[1:43:27] safety.
[1:43:33] >> during the day. Obviously
[1:43:36] it's during the night for legal
[1:43:41] requirements.
[1:43:41] I want to be clear, that would
[1:43:42] be great if we can do that
[1:43:44] during the day.
[1:43:47] And a good project May be with
[1:43:48] point
[1:43:51] -- you're doing a great job
[1:43:52] thank you for all you're doing.
[1:43:56] >> thank you, Mr. Scott, Ms.
[1:43:56] Ms. Mcintyre.
[1:43:59] >> mike, I am glad you think
[1:44:03] they only hit you if they don't
[1:44:06] see you as opposed to they see
[1:44:06] you.
[1:44:08] >> the lights on -- on for
[1:44:13] safety at 11 not on that, I
[1:44:13] knows 361 we are working on
[1:44:14] improvements in the cap goes
[1:44:16] down and we are looking at for
[1:44:18] the rest and that would be huge
[1:44:19] and they have that comment
[1:44:22] coming from the residents
[1:44:25] recently.
[1:44:25] Thank you for addressing the
[1:44:28] harbor bridge, on the design
[1:44:30] build on the proposal that can
[1:44:34] -- they can come up with ideas
[1:44:35] on what they do differently on
[1:44:35] the original drawing drawing.
[1:44:37] >> they have to approve it is a
[1:44:43] better value and there is when
[1:44:44] you do a project there's a
[1:44:47] footprint and you have the
[1:44:48] movement that you want.
[1:44:55] How they deliver those it's 50%.
[1:44:55] You want to allow innovation
[1:44:56] and creativity through the
[1:45:00] process.
[1:45:01] To me as you witness what goes
[1:45:01] on in one of these from where
[1:45:04] we are at where we have been
[1:45:05] connected to a couple of them
[1:45:06] it's good to have that many
[1:45:07] smart folks working on it
[1:45:10] coming up with it, they have
[1:45:13] latitude.
[1:45:18] There's also the ascetic piece
[1:45:20] of it and access issue and how
[1:45:23] we address those, we struggle
[1:45:25] on how we get them to
[1:45:26] understand where we want to go
[1:45:28] with this
[1:45:29] and we did that through that
[1:45:32] study.
[1:45:32] I read that thing and -- in for
[1:45:35] the amount of time very
[1:45:39] thoughtful and gives a vision
[1:45:40] to people -- the people that
[1:45:43] are visionary and we are
[1:45:44] looking out -- level of service
[1:45:48] travel time
[1:45:48] those types of things how can
[1:45:49] you expedite the movement of
[1:45:54] traffic in and out it will be
[1:45:56] an opportunity for high-growth
[1:46:00] in tourism, but also for people
[1:46:01] who make the morning and
[1:46:01] evening commute.
[1:46:05] >> thank you.
[1:46:07] Fourth of July and labor day
[1:46:10] were great.
[1:46:10] The traffic did not backup.
[1:46:14] We had snacks during
[1:46:14] construction and I appreciate
[1:46:18] all the work you put into it to
[1:46:19] make sure we don't have those
[1:46:19] in the future and the extension
[1:46:21] of the turn lanes are really
[1:46:25] enhance the area and made it
[1:46:26] phenomenal and the fourth of
[1:46:27] July and labor day there's no
[1:46:29] backup that we have previously
[1:46:37] and we appreciate the effort.
[1:46:39] The also parkway when we met
[1:46:42] talk before with the -- the
[1:46:45] signal being put in in.
[1:46:48] >> they did not get the
[1:46:48] language.
[1:46:52] >> the contract has been
[1:46:52] notified.
[1:46:55] >> can we get a schedule?
[1:46:56] We will get you scheduled.
[1:46:58] >> once they break ground.
[1:46:59] On when that will occur.
[1:47:05] >> great.
[1:47:06] that's all I have.
[1:47:07] >> rate thank you.
[1:47:20] >> thank you, Mr. Love.
[1:47:25] >> I want to say that access on
[1:47:27] the harbor bridge is incredibly
[1:47:28] important.
[1:47:30] I said that before.
[1:47:33] The other thing is I think ramp
[1:47:37] reversal is probably going to
[1:47:38] be the most impactful on the
[1:47:42] projects on traffic.
[1:47:43] I drive both sides of the
[1:47:46] highway and the difference in
[1:47:49] safety and traffic flow and
[1:47:50] ease of use is completely
[1:47:55] different on the mall side of it
[1:47:56] in the mall gets more -- and
[1:47:57] the markets more traffic on the
[1:48:00] other side.
[1:48:00] I think that will have an
[1:48:04] impact on that entire area
[1:48:10] three or 4 miles away will
[1:48:10] impact traffic when we get the
[1:48:11] ramp reversal and it will
[1:48:14] impact it for the better
[1:48:15] and I hope that when they get
[1:48:16] that done we can work on
[1:48:17] synchronizing the lights
[1:48:18] because I know a lot of the
[1:48:20] issues on the lights is to make
[1:48:22] sure traffic doesn't backup on
[1:48:25] to the highway once we do ramp
[1:48:25] reversal
[1:48:30] we should be able to solve one
[1:48:30] of those issues.
[1:48:35] Maybe -- maybe not on staples,
[1:48:35] but the mall plaza like but on
[1:48:38] the other streets and he will
[1:48:38] make a big difference and I
[1:48:41] want to thank you guys
[1:48:41] promoting it as quickly as you
[1:48:42] can on that.
[1:48:44] >> thank you.
[1:48:45] >> Mr. Garza.
[1:48:50] >> along the same line as
[1:48:50] david, I was in the planning
[1:48:51] commission when we started
[1:48:53] talking about the reversal and
[1:48:56] I was confused
[1:48:57] did not know how it would work
[1:48:58] on the ninth pleasantly
[1:49:01] surprised and impressed with
[1:49:07] impact on the north side of 361.
[1:49:09] List -- Mr. Land been acquired
[1:49:10] for the right-of-way.
[1:49:14] >> we are in the process of
[1:49:15] purchasing land I don't know
[1:49:15] what percentage.
[1:49:20] I had -- we have acquired
[1:49:20] several parcels already part of
[1:49:21] the timeline to get the project
[1:49:25] if the clock the funding
[1:49:25] becomes available and we are in
[1:49:26] the process.
[1:49:27] Thank you for that question.
[1:49:29] >> I appreciate all the project
[1:49:45] you to 86 and the projects --
[1:49:45] besides the harbor bridge the
[1:49:46] largest impact will be the
[1:49:46] reversal project.
[1:49:49] >> on the south side.
[1:49:52] Things for all your hard work.
[1:49:55] >> thank you Mr. Garza, Mr.
[1:49:55] Magill.
[1:50:03] >> thank you for the sheer
[1:50:03] magnitude of the world that you
[1:50:04] are completing moving forward
[1:50:06] is great. It's a great time in
[1:50:09] corpus christi and your timing
[1:50:11] is impeccable to have gotten
[1:50:12] the funding to make it happen
[1:50:16] today.
[1:50:16] When creek citizen request a
[1:50:18] piece of rebar on the west is
[1:50:21] bay boulevard under the
[1:50:24] overpass that sticking out and
[1:50:25] people who work in the -- there
[1:50:31] each day
[1:50:31] that's a quick citizenry quiz,
[1:50:32] I know that I could've e-mailed
[1:50:33] that to you, but you're here
[1:50:35] today we are talking about ramp
[1:50:39] reversal. I know it takes time
[1:50:40] to get things on a project list
[1:50:40] to -- the project was to get
[1:50:44] them funded, but is there --
[1:50:48] their any idea of thought in
[1:50:49] terms of ramp reversal between
[1:50:52] baldwin in 19? Baldwin
[1:50:54] important?
[1:50:56] port and horn?
[1:50:57] Onto 86?
[1:51:00] I know there's not a as much
[1:51:02] traffic, but it's very similar,
[1:51:04] some of that will it taken care
[1:51:07] of, the exit on leopard, when
[1:51:09] you start talking about the
[1:51:13] quick -- it's a similar -- this
[1:51:13] a similar problem, but with
[1:51:17] less traffic, it is two, four,
[1:51:18] six years out?
[1:51:21] Where are when are we going to
[1:51:23] look at the ramp reverses?
[1:51:24] I might be wrong on the
[1:51:27] location.
[1:51:28] The limit on the new project
[1:51:33] for the interchange the port
[1:51:33] adjacent east of the new
[1:51:34] interchange those ramps will be
[1:51:36] brought up to standard in the
[1:51:40] footprint and the rams met an
[1:51:43] old standard, you don't have a
[1:51:46] lot of distance will be call the
[1:51:48] bridge distance, and the
[1:51:53] footprint from nueces boulevard
[1:51:56] into the inner-city that will
[1:51:57] be addressed as part of the
[1:51:59] design project for the harbor
[1:52:00] bridge.
[1:52:03] We are building a bridge, but
[1:52:08] there's a huge interchange that
[1:52:12] changes a lot of things just
[1:52:13] the sheer magnitude of -- of it
[1:52:14] and building to a higher design
[1:52:18] state and safety standard about
[1:52:19] half of the project up in the
[1:52:23] air and the other half with the
[1:52:24] two connection the beach and,
[1:52:27] that portion is a thing covered
[1:52:28] in the future design along that
[1:52:31] 37.
[1:52:38] >> I am talking about -- on
[1:52:38] cost down.
[1:52:42] >> the south the laredo, however
[1:52:45] to schlow impact.
[1:52:46] >> we will need to look at
[1:52:46] those.
[1:52:52] >> I see that as a growth area
[1:52:53] in terms of infield and
[1:52:56] development and I realize two
[1:52:58] oh 46 years that you have to
[1:53:00] start the project send we are
[1:53:02] seeing when hundreds of and
[1:53:03] plus million dollars projects
[1:53:07] because we have the -- 10 years
[1:53:09] ago to make it happen.
[1:53:12] Unless question
[1:53:13] is, you mentioned prop 12 a
[1:53:15] couple times, what is the next
[1:53:19] round of funding for give me an
[1:53:24] idea of how that comes forward.
[1:53:25] Onto 86 extensions --
[1:53:28] extensions have the weber to
[1:53:29] connect the staples 2444 that
[1:53:34] would be the next round, what
[1:53:34] are some elements the community
[1:53:35] can look forward to?
[1:53:36] >> the next opportunity for
[1:53:42] funding is in November.
[1:53:44] The proposition which utilizes
[1:53:45] the portion of the rainy days
[1:53:51] and two above the certain cap
[1:53:52] to go into the highway fund to
[1:53:53] build projects
[1:53:54] and road improvements.
[1:53:58] The funding pretty well spent
[1:54:01] -- we have been ability find,
[1:54:04] and prop 12 which been has been
[1:54:06] voted on and to bryan mims
[1:54:09] projects which we are fortunate
[1:54:12] to capitalize on the dash be
[1:54:16] funded by those dollars.
[1:54:17] Depending on the will of the
[1:54:23] public, the projects in the
[1:54:24] planning that we have done is
[1:54:25] financially constrained to the
[1:54:26] infield these are types of
[1:54:27] projects we need to hear so we
[1:54:29] can have advisory committee
[1:54:38] analyze and prioritize those.
[1:54:39] I strongly support the ramp
[1:54:39] reversal.
[1:54:40] That came on a number of years
[1:54:41] ago was the need to look for
[1:54:43] the dollar.
[1:54:46] That's a process that comes
[1:54:46] into input
[1:54:47] that you're given the right
[1:54:47] now.
[1:54:50] >> thank you for your work and
[1:54:52] i was encouraged to see that
[1:54:57] improvements out of -- that
[1:54:58] means that could be continued
[1:55:01] somewhat that some portion.
[1:55:05] >> at least a couple members on
[1:55:07] this, we have long-range that
[1:55:09] we would have a full load
[1:55:12] expanded to four legs and
[1:55:16] although sends a high price tag
[1:55:16] . It's a fix community --
[1:55:18] fixed community on both and said
[1:55:21] how you keep traffic moving and
[1:55:22] address the safety concern
[1:55:23] there's an immediacy on that we
[1:55:26] had had a fatality said a
[1:55:28] couple folks who killed
[1:55:33] pedestrian traffic
[1:55:33] recently.
[1:55:34] It's very concerning to us, if
[1:55:34] you have driven in the rural
[1:55:42] section, -- when we are put the
[1:55:45] alternating passingly we have
[1:55:46] seen a huge reduction in hit on
[1:55:53] fatality's you could people out,
[1:55:53] you get behind a slow-moving
[1:55:54] vehicle enjoying the sights and
[1:55:55] people who need -- of people
[1:55:55] who need to go to work or do
[1:55:57] business will take chances and
[1:56:00] ask so we build it -- to those
[1:56:03] in and rebuild a lot of --
[1:56:08] if you take -- we have done
[1:56:09] several and we have seen dress
[1:56:11] reduction in fatality's and
[1:56:13] that will be a short-term short
[1:56:16] to mid term fix you can double
[1:56:19] the traffic and we are seeing
[1:56:19] the traffic volumes on some
[1:56:21] roads
[1:56:24] approaching double what we have
[1:56:27] today.
[1:56:29] Basically take weekend and that
[1:56:33] traffic could be handled the
[1:56:33] price tag is $2.5 million
[1:56:35] construction cost
[1:56:37] we could do an existing right-
[1:56:39] of-way get passing both
[1:56:42] directions 12 miles and it will
[1:56:45] keep traffic flowing and our
[1:56:47] intention is if you see
[1:56:48] assigned to miles ahead I have
[1:56:51] a chance to pass the majority
[1:56:56] population is going to -- it is
[1:56:59] shown to be very effective.
[1:56:59] Longer term and will -- it will
[1:57:02] be much more extensive.
[1:57:07] >> my final, is the mauling on
[1:57:08] cost town has improved I know
[1:57:13] you have it budget three times
[1:57:14] here, but it has improved and
[1:57:14] it allows people entering and
[1:57:18] exiting across town and baldwin
[1:57:19] , they can see cars coming off
[1:57:19] the road.
[1:57:20] I appreciate that very much I
[1:57:22] have seen him difference in
[1:57:24] thank you I recognize that.
[1:57:27] >> I know it's been a real
[1:57:29] issue and still an issue the
[1:57:30] campaign
[1:57:32] the city's doing it is
[1:57:36] propagating.
[1:57:37] It looks -- I can notice it.
[1:57:41] It's not perfect, but that
[1:57:42] campaign and trying to educate
[1:57:51] vote -- it's working.
[1:57:51] I was amazed on how cool it was
[1:57:52] and I spent several months a
[1:57:53] few years ago it's noticeably
[1:57:57] different, campaign plus
[1:57:57] enforcement.
[1:57:59] >> thank you.
[1:58:01] I safely pulled aside this trust
[1:58:05] to the side of the road, we had
[1:58:06] a conversation about what he
[1:58:10] puts in the back of his truck.
[1:58:11] This riojas.
[1:58:14] >> you educated him.
[1:58:17] >> thanks for the feedback.
[1:58:18] All I want to say is thanks for
[1:58:20] the update. I know it's part
[1:58:22] of our agenda packets today,
[1:58:29] but I hope we do update have it
[1:58:30] uploaded on the website because
[1:58:30] it's great information to share
[1:58:31] with the community about the
[1:58:32] investment
[1:58:33] so that people understand
[1:58:36] timelines because we have a bit
[1:58:37] of work construction not just
[1:58:41] on our site on the stateside.
[1:58:43] To give people information.
[1:58:47] This one more thing.
[1:58:48] Thanks for
[1:58:49] being a great partner and making
[1:58:51] mobility have been.
[1:58:59] >> I will ask that -- .
[1:59:03] >> I would echo colleen and mark
[1:59:05] in the mirror said about my --
[1:59:10] light on for safety.
[1:59:18] That marked take the credit you
[1:59:18] I do think there's a lot of
[1:59:19] value for lights on for safety
[1:59:20] not just at night or during -- ,
[1:59:20] but during the day specially on
[1:59:21] some of those high-traffic
[1:59:22] corridors.
[1:59:23] >> thank you.
[1:59:28] >> even though we did not have
[1:59:28] a conversation it's good they
[1:59:29] bring it to our attention.
[1:59:33] All you have to do is go drive
[1:59:37] that without the passing lane,
[1:59:38] that is scary.
[1:59:43] >> I think we are done.
[1:59:50] Thank you very much.
[1:59:53] Before we take a break and then
[1:59:55] after a break we will go over
[1:59:58] item number 22, can you give us
[1:59:59] some clarity on the concern
[2:00:02] that was brought up earlier on
[2:00:04] the legality of the
[2:00:05] vote on annexation number 11.
[2:00:10] >> the agenda from last week.
[2:00:11] >> the concern was that funding
[2:00:12] resolution was not properly
[2:00:16] noticed and double checked
[2:00:17] because when I hear something
[2:00:19] like that I worry.
[2:00:20] I double checked with registrar
[2:00:27] and it appears 11 was on
[2:00:27] properly on the agenda and the
[2:00:28] agenda report was precedent
[2:00:30] resolution was present and it
[2:00:31] was present on the agenda as
[2:00:35] well.
[2:00:36] It will not be be open meeting
[2:00:37] violation.
[2:00:41] >> sleep was an accurate,
[2:00:42] everything on our vote for
[2:00:47] annexation is in compliance of
[2:00:48] the legal request statutory
[2:00:49] compliance with annexation.
[2:00:51] >> I feel comfortable that is
[2:00:52] all defensible.
[2:00:54] >> we will take a break and be
[2:00:54] back back.
[2:02:09] We can get someone else, Ms.
[2:02:11] Mcintyre, call someone else
[2:02:13] from the back if you need to
[2:02:14] handle something.
[2:02:18] >> can someone from, thank you.
[2:02:27] >> you for -- you've got one,
[2:02:31] two, three, four.
[2:02:31] >> she needs to go.
[2:02:34] >> okay.
[2:02:39] We're going to move forward to
[2:02:40] item number 22 our last item on
[2:02:41] the agenda, street
[2:02:44] or vindictive exceedance plan
[2:02:45] your one update and street
[2:02:46] maintenance preventative year
[2:02:50] number two work plan.
[2:02:50] >> good afternoon, valerie
[2:02:55] gray, interim executive
[2:02:55] director public works.
[2:02:56] Today I want to present an
[2:02:57] update on one of the
[2:02:59] street preventative program and
[2:03:02] review does two work plans
[2:03:04] which should be up must be
[2:03:06] approved prior to execution
[2:03:09] that you I want to tell you
[2:03:12] that on the seat you will see
[2:03:13] that what we did was to make
[2:03:15] you a larger mat
[2:03:22] that has all the info on it. I
[2:03:23] learned from experience and I
[2:03:23] know last time you said can we
[2:03:25] get a bigger map and we try to
[2:03:27] put everything on it and we read
[2:03:30] -- we printed the attachments
[2:03:34] for you.
[2:03:36] On the first slide,
[2:03:38] you can see that the slide
[2:03:41] shows the status of your one,
[2:03:45] and also
[2:03:48] -- the first slightest overlay,
[2:03:49] on the slide you can see the
[2:03:50] status of your one overlay,
[2:03:52] there are five delivery orders
[2:03:55] totaling 264,000 total square
[2:04:00] yards 14.1 miles.
[2:04:01] The contractor is making good
[2:04:05] progress and is at 56% complete
[2:04:08] as shown on the chart to the
[2:04:17] right.
[2:04:18] On this next screen, shows the
[2:04:20] status of the year one
[2:04:22] seal coats with five delivery
[2:04:25] orders totaling approximately
[2:04:28] 431,000 square yards or 25.1
[2:04:30] miles.
[2:04:35] This contractor had a late start
[2:04:36] with the seal program and has
[2:04:36] had some challenges with
[2:04:38] resources.
[2:04:41] Staff has been working with them
[2:04:42] and working with a contractor
[2:04:42] who is provided us recently a
[2:04:45] plan of action to complete all
[2:04:50] of the five deals by the end of
[2:04:51] the year weather permitting.
[2:04:51] He laid out a plan to get the
[2:04:55] work done and we will work with
[2:04:55] them and they believe he will
[2:04:56] hit the target.
[2:04:59] The seal work is faster than
[2:05:00] the overlay work and we believe
[2:05:01] he will be finishing up
[2:05:02] close to the end of the year.
[2:05:07] >> on the next slide, this is
[2:05:10] simply a map of your one
[2:05:10] location.
[2:05:14] This is on the web and we have
[2:05:16] to show you there
[2:05:18] year one.
[2:05:20] To briefly go through some of
[2:05:22] things we learn from year one
[2:05:25] which we consider they
[2:05:26] had a program and we are trying
[2:05:31] to approve and we both continue
[2:05:32] to have a multi-your program
[2:05:33] and the first thing is the use
[2:05:37] of google map aerial view maps
[2:05:38] when we are developing the
[2:05:39] deals and working the plans for
[2:05:40] the contractor instead of cad
[2:05:41] drawings.
[2:05:44] This allows the engineer to
[2:05:45] mark the work features the
[2:05:46] contract will see in the field
[2:05:50] and it gives better clarity to
[2:05:53] what is done and where it will
[2:05:55] be done out in the field.
[2:05:59] We learned to keep list of
[2:06:00] alternates ready to allow for
[2:06:01] swapping locations in the the
[2:06:02] event of utility work is
[2:06:06] required and reasons that we
[2:06:06] might have two different
[2:06:16] locations.
[2:06:16] The third thing, that street
[2:06:17] location methodology is working
[2:06:17] very well we found a few
[2:06:18] streets that needed to be
[2:06:19] different due to identification
[2:06:21] of utility work that is needed.
[2:06:24] Remember, we tried our best not
[2:06:28] to get into utility and try to
[2:06:29] find a way to do for the
[2:06:30] streetwear more extensive
[2:06:31] utility work is needed area and
[2:06:35] we also learned as number four
[2:06:36] says, we need more inspections
[2:06:41] and upfront testing and that
[2:06:42] means we need to determine the
[2:06:42] condition of basin in areas
[2:06:44] were we do overlays whether we
[2:06:47] should do overlays or -- we
[2:06:50] need to verify the base to do
[2:06:53] enough work and to ensure the
[2:06:57] work is done and be being done
[2:07:00] -- being done with the work
[2:07:00] through and the staff and
[2:07:01] engineering got does the walk
[2:07:04] the work through the and your
[2:07:06] work working on that.
[2:07:08] >> the resident notification
[2:07:11] protocol is doing very good in
[2:07:12] our opinion and is evidence --
[2:07:14] as evidence we only had to
[2:07:16] vehicles that were told --
[2:07:17] trying to contact those
[2:07:19] residents and that was the only
[2:07:23] issue I've heard so far and we
[2:07:23] have been out in quite a few
[2:07:25] areas.
[2:07:30] We were able to up the
[2:07:30] the striping in the streets we
[2:07:31] are maintaining and we are
[2:07:32] getting it in accordance with
[2:07:35] the transportation plan and
[2:07:36] that's a plus with the program
[2:07:38] as well.
[2:07:39] Last but not least the utility
[2:07:40] coordination is working well.
[2:07:46] Working harder to get our
[2:07:47] locations -- locations who are
[2:07:47] utility department and allowing
[2:07:48] them to review the location and
[2:07:53] in advance.
[2:07:53] This is healthy must for the
[2:07:55] location that the for a lot of
[2:07:56] infrastructure work
[2:07:57] you for making the discovery in
[2:08:00] the field.
[2:08:00] The coordination is -- as well
[2:08:02] doing really well we do to
[2:08:07] streets, we have gotten in an
[2:08:08] area were we had to bring in
[2:08:09] and make a repair. We are
[2:08:11] getting better at it and doing
[2:08:12] a good job with the program.
[2:08:16] >> on the next slides, what I
[2:08:18] did is take pictures you can
[2:08:21] see the end product. We are
[2:08:24] pretty proud of what's going on.
[2:08:27] There are two over the
[2:08:28] arterials in the locations --
[2:08:28] and the locations are on the
[2:08:29] bottom.
[2:08:35] The next slide is to overlaid
[2:08:38] -- electors completed and the
[2:08:42] third slide are to overlaid
[2:08:42] local streets completed.
[2:08:47] In year one. In the next slide
[2:08:49] two sealed arterials that have
[2:08:55] been completed. Two sealed
[2:08:58] collectors completed under you
[2:08:59] one.
[2:09:04] And this is to shield --
[2:09:06] residential street part of year
[2:09:07] one and -- completed through
[2:09:15] the program as we move on to
[2:09:18] year two, but I want to do is
[2:09:19] show you the slides and this
[2:09:23] was presented to you last
[2:09:23] November on the street
[2:09:24] selection criteria that was
[2:09:28] approved to select the street
[2:09:29] to location we put in the work
[2:09:33] plan and you will know that it
[2:09:33] is primarily based on the
[2:09:35] pavement condition index or pci
[2:09:38] and it's distributed by the
[2:09:42] other factors listed here as we
[2:09:42] work to develop the work plan.
[2:09:51] >> this chart shows the target
[2:09:51] and the comparison to the work
[2:09:53] plan distribution for year two.
[2:09:57] The pie chart on the top list
[2:09:58] shows the street maintenance
[2:09:59] need I district and the bottom
[2:10:01] list shows the street
[2:10:05] maintenance list by will --
[2:10:05] road classification on on the
[2:10:10] top right you will see the
[2:10:10] chart shows what the year to
[2:10:11] work plan distribution is by
[2:10:13] district and the bottom right
[2:10:15] shows the year to work plan by
[2:10:16] road classification.
[2:10:17] The chart the targets are
[2:10:20] pretty closely meant that you
[2:10:21] these percentages
[2:10:24] without the streets portions
[2:10:27] and the numbers once you add
[2:10:27] industry distribution as well
[2:10:31] get the numbers get closer to
[2:10:31] the targets we have
[2:10:31] represented.
[2:10:37] >> this is simply a map of the
[2:10:41] year to locations we have given
[2:10:44] you the list attached in a
[2:10:47] order by district and in order
[2:10:48] by alphabet and the third list
[2:10:51] is
[2:10:52] the list of street projects
[2:10:56] street operations with will be
[2:10:57] ceiling and that's the three
[2:10:57] list that's attached that we
[2:10:58] strip it to you.
[2:11:03] >> -- distributed to you.
[2:11:05] This is the project did
[2:11:10] schedule for year two, red,
[2:11:11] completed task up the top today
[2:11:13] in the presentation and the
[2:11:14] next meeting that's coming up
[2:11:15] on the 20, you will see a
[2:11:17] resolution
[2:11:18] that will be coming to you for
[2:11:20] approval on the year to work
[2:11:22] plan upon completion of that
[2:11:26] work plan you will also see a
[2:11:29] contract coming to you for the
[2:11:37] consultant see archie -- crc,
[2:11:40] delivery orders five and five
[2:11:43] and overlay developed for year
[2:11:45] two and they will have them
[2:11:50] ready in anticipation for us to
[2:11:51] begin construction at the first
[2:11:52] of the year in 2015. We are
[2:11:53] trying to get ready and have it
[2:11:56] ready once we complete year one
[2:11:57] , we can start right away on
[2:12:01] the first of the year with the
[2:12:05] second year of the sp mp.
[2:12:09] >> if you have any questions I
[2:12:10] would -- would be glad to
[2:12:12] answers back I don't see any
[2:12:14] questions.
[2:12:14] Mr. Magill.
[2:12:19] >> one quick comment.
[2:12:19] I want to say for the record
[2:12:20] because I was asked last night
[2:12:27] in a meeting,
[2:12:27] swan nervous and this spends
[2:12:28] wegner will be the first road
[2:12:28] -- road in lyndale to have
[2:12:29] overlay or so-called even
[2:12:29] though I've
[2:12:33] for out of 17 are eligible and
[2:12:34] I just want to say and for the
[2:12:38] public, will be first in -- we
[2:12:39] work thank you.
[2:12:40] >> meetinghouse?
[2:12:43] >> okay thank you.
[2:12:43] You.
[2:12:44] -- anything else?
[2:12:46] >>
[2:12:47] good thing I caught him after
[2:12:47] lunch.
[2:12:49] >> Mr. Wilson.
[2:12:52] >> that's all I have for the
[2:12:52] day.
[2:12:53] >> we are urging.