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>>> good morning.

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If I can ask you all to turn

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off your cell phones, please or

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lot them on vibrate or silence

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them, I would appreciate that.

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And also, happy hanukkah and

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merry christmas.

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I am going to ask the

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invocation to be given by jason

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teague.

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He is with asbury united

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methodist church.

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Welcome.

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>> thank you.

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Leapt's pray.

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We give you thanks for this

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opportunity today.

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There are a great many

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decisions before the council

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this morning and weeny that

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many of them seem routine and

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just sort of ordinary, but

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lord, there are also other de-

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sixes before them and all of

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the decisions, they can maybe

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change the lives and

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livelihoods of more than

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316,000 people who live in the

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city.

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And so, lord, we pray your

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divine guidance upon the

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council members and upon those

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who with items to discuss

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before the council this

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morning, lord, we pray your

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blessing and with that always

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comes guidance.

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We thank you and we praise you

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in christ's name I pray, amen.

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>> amen.

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If I can ask bill green, the

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director of the environmental

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to lead us in the pledge.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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flag of the united states of

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america, and to the republic

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for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> thank you, Mr. Green.

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if I can ask my city secretary,

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rebecca huerta to please call

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the roll.

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>> nelda martinez.

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>> here.

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>> rudy garza.

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>> here.

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>> kelley allen.

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>> here.

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David loeb.

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>> chad magill.

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>> here colleen mcintyre.

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Lillian riojas.

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>> miles.

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>> a quorum of the council is

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present and the required

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officers are present to conduct

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the meeting.

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>> thank you very much, Ms.

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Huerta.

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We are going move move for-

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-going to move forward to city

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manager's comments.

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>> thank you, mayor.

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First item I would like to

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bring to the council's

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attention today, I want to talk

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for a moment about our computer

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system that we have been

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working on for a year.

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It is called an erp, enterprise

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resource planning system.

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It really is the basic

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accounting system, hr system,

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and support system that will

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help us in our city.

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We have become, as an

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organization, as a society, so

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dependent on technology.

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It is like if the power goes

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off or something happens to the

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computer, it goes down,

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everyone just stops working

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because all of the aspects of

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their work are connected to

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technology in some fashion.

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My paint is that this

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technology -- my point is that

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this technology is just vital

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to the way we do our business.

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A couple of years ago, we

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evaluated our base computer

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system.

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What we found was it was

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approaching 13 or 14-years-old.

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It was outdated and needed to

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be replaced.

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We went to work on writing

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specifications, making

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proposals, and, excuse me,

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actually, awarded the system

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that worked out.

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beginning of the work and in a

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way, it was the end of what the

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city council had to do.

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You voted on it, you

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appropriated the money.

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to work, this was well over a

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year ago.

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installed our base financial

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system, fleet fleet operations,-

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-fleet operations, hr systems.

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Payroll should be up by the end

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of this year.

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That is key component to any

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operation, obviously.

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install utility billing

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and regulation support

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software.

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it.

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And I wanted to bring this to

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the council's attention because

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so many people inside have been

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working so hard on this.

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This is an invisible thing that

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so giant operation for the toy.

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I have asked people of the

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people, they have been working

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on that over the past year, to

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come inned to, and be

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recognized by the council.

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Again, we are, about halfway

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through the implementation.

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So there is a still a lot of

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work to be done.

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But can we have all of the city

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employees who have been working

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on this system please stand and

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be recognized?

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>> and I want to express my

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personal thanks to all of you

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and I know there are a lot of

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people who are not here.

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I want to thank you for all of

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the hard work you have been

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So thank you very much.

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mentioned to, mayor, is that we

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have completed one of the

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projects, that I want to bring

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to your attention from the 2008

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bond.

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Tomorrow, would be a ribbon

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cutting on fire station number

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five.

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This is a replacement fire

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station that is associated with

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the joint use with the corpus

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christi independent school

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district, delmar, and it is

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going to also be not only an

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active fire station, but a

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training location for our

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active duty firefighters.

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This new building replaces an

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old building that was first

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constructed in 1956 that had

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become outdated.

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hurricane resistant an energy

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efficient.

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And tomorrow at 10:00 A.M., we

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will have a ribbon cut together

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initiate the use of that

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And I can not think of anything

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else for the moment.

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>> thank you very much, Mr.

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Olson.

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Thank you for your leadership

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in acknowledging our hard

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working department and those

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doing their own initiatives in

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their departments related.

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We are going tom brady move

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forward -- we are going to move

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forward now to our minutes

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under I. Ms. Huerta.

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>> we present the minutes of

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the regular meeting of

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December 9th for your

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consideration.

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>> thank you, they have been

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presented.

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Do I have a motion to approve?

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second.

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All in favor, I. Opposed, same

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sign.

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We are going to move forward to

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item l, consent agenda items 7-

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Is there anyone in the audience

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item l, consent agenda item, or

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>> thank you, appreciate that.

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>> and Ms. Huerta, if you can

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do that, and move forward on

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consent agenda.

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>> it is regarding [Inaudible

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Other than that, we are going

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to goat vot on the consent iraq

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or afghanistan -- we are going

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vote on the consent agenda.

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[Roll call vote taken] The

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consent agenda passes.

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>> thank you very much.

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we move forward.

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Were we going to bring one

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Of the people here in down.

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Had we discussed that on one of

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to move forward to the staff

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presentations starting on m,

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public hearing 51, please.

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>> mayor, coin -- council,

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director of development

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service.

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It is a request by a property

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owner to rezone a total of

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19.72-acres for vacant land on

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the north side

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between airline

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road and rodco road.

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The property is currently zoned

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farm, rural and the owner wants

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to rezone to a general

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commercial.

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The purpose is to allow

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construction of a retail

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shopping center which could

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include a grocery store, fuel

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station, and car wash.

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the future land use plan and

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south side area development

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plan.

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recommends approval of this

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rezoning.

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Available for any questions.

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>> thank you very much.

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Mrs. Riojas?

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Is there, I have a motion to

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open up the public hearing.

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I have a motion and a second.

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All in favor, say I. Opposed,

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same sign.

295
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Motion kir richardsons.

296
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Is -- carries.

297
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Is there anyone from the public

298
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with a comment on item m5 1?

299
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Seeing none, a motion to close

300
00:17:48,550 --> 00:17:50,550
public hearing.

301
00:17:50,655 --> 00:17:53,655
a motion and a second.

302
00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:55,262
All in favor.

303
00:17:55,262 --> 00:17:55,691
Opposed, same sign.

304
00:17:55,691 --> 00:17:56,270
Motion carries.

305
00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:58,270
Ms. Huerta.

306
00:18:01,133 --> 00:18:01,465
>> for passage of ordnance,

307
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number 51.

308
00:18:10,410 --> 00:18:12,441
[Roll call vote taken]

309
00:18:16,315 --> 00:18:17,146
>> the ordnance passes.

310
00:18:17,146 --> 00:18:19,546
>> thank you very much.

311
00:18:19,687 --> 00:18:21,649
>> and let's move to item

312
00:18:21,649 --> 00:18:23,649
number 52, please.

313
00:18:25,423 --> 00:18:26,560
>> mayor, council members,

314
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development services, item

315
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number 52 is a request to

316
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,360
resewn approximately five acres

317
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of vacant land that is located

318
00:18:37,433 --> 00:18:37,767
on the southeast corner of the

319
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boulevard.

320
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The property is currently zone

321
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hs single family and

322
00:18:41,904 --> 00:18:43,904
manufactured home districts.

323
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They want to rezone it to a

324
00:18:46,975 --> 00:18:49,375
light industrial district to

325
00:18:50,813 --> 00:18:53,480
allow the development of the

326
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,281
property into a boat and rv

327
00:18:54,281 --> 00:18:54,917
storage facility.

328
00:18:54,917 --> 00:18:57,917
Background on this, the boat

329
00:18:58,618 --> 00:18:59,752
and rv storage use is

330
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considered a commercial use.

331
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:06,660
The reason for the il, or light

332
00:19:06,660 --> 00:19:09,199
industrial request is to allow

333
00:19:09,199 --> 00:19:11,934
larger units, partly the space

334
00:19:11,934 --> 00:19:14,334
that general commercial is

335
00:19:15,134 --> 00:19:15,802
limited to 400 square feet

336
00:19:15,802 --> 00:19:18,202
maximum per storage unit.

337
00:19:20,337 --> 00:19:23,175
It is going to be used as a

338
00:19:23,175 --> 00:19:26,775
large rv and boat storage, the

339
00:19:27,245 --> 00:19:28,814
owner is request to go build

340
00:19:28,814 --> 00:19:30,814
approximately 450 square foot

341
00:19:30,816 --> 00:19:33,216
unit in the facility.

342
00:19:33,484 --> 00:19:36,622
And because of that, I lirks

343
00:19:36,622 --> 00:19:36,887
would be the better suited

344
00:19:36,887 --> 00:19:38,887
zoning.

345
00:19:39,930 --> 00:19:41,660
But the staff is recommending

346
00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:45,260
the cn district with a special

347
00:19:47,798 --> 00:19:48,680
permit to allow for the larger

348
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:48,567
units.

349
00:19:48,567 --> 00:19:49,202
Along with that reck

350
00:19:49,202 --> 00:19:51,202
degradation, -- recommendation,

351
00:19:51,434 --> 00:19:55,340
there would be a number of

352
00:19:55,707 --> 00:19:57,640
conditions on that permit to

353
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:58,373
allow only the uses allowednd

354
00:19:58,373 --> 00:20:00,373
the neighborhood commercial,

355
00:20:01,745 --> 00:20:02,440
with the except of this

356
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,440
storage.

357
00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:05,381
-- with the exception of this

358
00:20:05,381 --> 00:20:06,148
storage.

359
00:20:06,148 --> 00:20:09,148
Also, any other condition such

360
00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:12,451
as buffer yard requirements

361
00:20:13,155 --> 00:20:14,523
along the eastbound richardson

362
00:20:14,523 --> 00:20:16,562
property -- east boundary

363
00:20:16,562 --> 00:20:19,260
property line and other items

364
00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:21,300
such as vehicle stacking and

365
00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:22,764
those kind of conditions.

366
00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:24,965
So staff has requested that a

367
00:20:24,965 --> 00:20:27,965
special permit with issued with

368
00:20:28,735 --> 00:20:32,335
the cn zoning instead of the

369
00:20:33,140 --> 00:20:33,479
light industrial, the

370
00:20:33,479 --> 00:20:35,479
5applicant

371
00:20:39,112 --> 00:20:39,713
is aware of that and he finds

372
00:20:39,713 --> 00:20:40,984
the conditions acceptable.

373
00:20:40,984 --> 00:20:44,153
He has submitted a site plan

374
00:20:44,153 --> 00:20:45,988
and at this point, we recommend

375
00:20:45,988 --> 00:20:48,988
the denial of the light

376
00:20:53,192 --> 00:20:53,760
industrial in lieu of the cn1

377
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,930
neighborhood commercial.

378
00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:55,596
And I will answer any questions

379
00:20:55,596 --> 00:20:56,395
that you have.

380
00:20:56,395 --> 00:20:58,395
>> thank you.

381
00:20:58,935 --> 00:21:00,532
Can you show me, it was over

382
00:21:00,532 --> 00:21:03,532
well, probably well over two

383
00:21:04,270 --> 00:21:05,805
years ago, we had an applicant

384
00:21:05,805 --> 00:21:09,405
that wanted to put a storage

385
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:12,379
unit in this area, do you

386
00:21:12,379 --> 00:21:13,913
recall that?

387
00:21:13,913 --> 00:21:15,615
It was with Mr. Brian johnson.

388
00:21:15,615 --> 00:21:16,481
>> I do not recall the exact

389
00:21:16,481 --> 00:21:16,715
location on this particular

390
00:21:16,715 --> 00:21:18,284
one.

391
00:21:18,284 --> 00:21:20,651
>> okay, is there any way that

392
00:21:20,651 --> 00:21:22,786
you can find out exactly if

393
00:21:22,786 --> 00:21:24,490
there is someone listening in

394
00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:27,490
city staff, where the location

395
00:21:28,227 --> 00:21:32,427
was and, and I am thinking the

396
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,400
difference between, and it was

397
00:21:44,479 --> 00:21:46,879
denyied, there were huge

398
00:21:46,946 --> 00:21:47,477
limitations on this to be

399
00:21:47,477 --> 00:21:47,816
neighborhood friendly.

400
00:21:47,816 --> 00:21:49,816
>> correct.

401
00:21:51,716 --> 00:21:55,316
>> and so that, I just wanted

402
00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:56,455
to find out where that other

403
00:21:56,455 --> 00:21:56,786
location was.

404
00:21:56,786 --> 00:21:58,786
>> okay.

405
00:21:59,722 --> 00:22:00,890
>> and I want to make the

406
00:22:00,890 --> 00:22:01,993
distinctions.

407
00:22:01,993 --> 00:22:03,157
But there are quite a built of

408
00:22:03,157 --> 00:22:06,157
restrictions that we put on

409
00:22:06,761 --> 00:22:09,320
this one, I know for sure,

410
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,980
compared to the last one.

411
00:22:10,980 --> 00:22:12,498
>> if I remember correctly,

412
00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:12,937
that was a straight rezoning

413
00:22:12,937 --> 00:22:13,200
request.

414
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,200
>> yes.

415
00:22:15,806 --> 00:22:17,606
>> as a posed to this one, -- as

416
00:22:17,606 --> 00:22:19,800
opposed to this one, that the

417
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:19,408
applicant is willing to accept

418
00:22:19,408 --> 00:22:21,408
the conditions.

419
00:22:21,842 --> 00:22:23,645
And I think at that time, that

420
00:22:23,645 --> 00:22:24,110
applicant did not want the

421
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:26,110
restrictions.

422
00:22:26,414 --> 00:22:27,840
>> yes, I mean, these are

423
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,249
significant more restrictions.

424
00:22:28,249 --> 00:22:30,886
I know forture, I remember

425
00:22:30,886 --> 00:22:33,823
that, it was a straight, any

426
00:22:33,823 --> 00:22:35,789
way, I am glad.

427
00:22:35,789 --> 00:22:36,189
But I would be curious about

428
00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:37,991
the other.

429
00:22:37,991 --> 00:22:38,995
Any way, May I have a motion to

430
00:22:38,995 --> 00:22:39,326
open up the public hearing.

431
00:22:39,326 --> 00:22:41,326
>> second.

432
00:22:42,996 --> 00:22:43,266
>> I have a motion and a

433
00:22:43,266 --> 00:22:43,661
second.

434
00:22:43,661 --> 00:22:45,661
Any discussion?

435
00:22:47,337 --> 00:22:47,570
All in favor, opposed, same

436
00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:47,967
sign.

437
00:22:47,967 --> 00:22:49,967
Motion carries.

438
00:22:52,373 --> 00:22:52,673
I ask the public to come

439
00:22:52,673 --> 00:22:54,673
forward.

440
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:19,561
Mr. Meyer, on item number m5 1.

441
00:23:20,664 --> 00:23:21,771
>> good afternoon.

442
00:23:21,771 --> 00:23:23,966
I am wayne meyer.

443
00:23:23,966 --> 00:23:26,366
Live at 4038 walter road.

444
00:23:27,730 --> 00:23:29,606
I am on the southwest of

445
00:23:29,606 --> 00:23:31,140
yorktown, so the road,

446
00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:32,677
basically from york town south

447
00:23:32,677 --> 00:23:34,347
dead ends into the power plant.

448
00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:37,316
So it is a debt end street.

449
00:23:37,316 --> 00:23:37,748
On my side of the street -- a

450
00:23:37,748 --> 00:23:39,748
dead end street.

451
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:42,317
on my side of the street, it is

452
00:23:42,317 --> 00:23:44,317
all residential units [

453
00:23:47,991 --> 00:23:49,927
Inaudible-low volume]. Capt.

454
00:23:49,927 --> 00:23:50,593
Bryan johnson cease project-

455
00:23:50,593 --> 00:23:53,232
-brian johnson's project was --

456
00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:56,232
>> okay, it was on the

457
00:23:56,396 --> 00:23:57,733
interior, closer to the

458
00:23:57,733 --> 00:23:59,733
interior residential locations

459
00:24:00,837 --> 00:24:01,134
instead on a secondary

460
00:24:01,134 --> 00:24:01,603
arterial.

461
00:24:01,603 --> 00:24:01,870
Is that correct?

462
00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:03,870
>> yes.

463
00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:05,975
>> is that what you are saying?

464
00:24:05,975 --> 00:24:08,375
>> yes, across from [Inaudible

465
00:24:08,908 --> 00:24:11,810
-low volume]. And there was a

466
00:24:11,810 --> 00:24:12,915
notch out where glenn oak goes

467
00:24:12,915 --> 00:24:14,915
down this way.

468
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,315
It was an l shaped piece of

469
00:24:15,315 --> 00:24:17,315
property.

470
00:24:17,655 --> 00:24:18,187
I am sorry.

471
00:24:18,187 --> 00:24:19,454
>> that is okay.

472
00:24:19,454 --> 00:24:20,789
>> and brian is a friend of

473
00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:23,589
mine, I loaned him the money to

474
00:24:23,589 --> 00:24:23,860
buy that property when I was a

475
00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:25,860
banker.

476
00:24:26,328 --> 00:24:27,329
And now he is doing a nice

477
00:24:27,329 --> 00:24:28,961
residential development on that

478
00:24:28,961 --> 00:24:31,697
will the, which is what the

479
00:24:31,697 --> 00:24:31,964
people until the neighborhood

480
00:24:31,964 --> 00:24:33,432
wanted.

481
00:24:33,432 --> 00:24:33,700
-- people in the neighborhood

482
00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:35,700
wants.

483
00:24:36,204 --> 00:24:39,804
Ten years ago, I bought ten

484
00:24:40,105 --> 00:24:42,544
acres and didn't need it, soy

485
00:24:42,544 --> 00:24:42,809
divided it into two-five acre

486
00:24:42,809 --> 00:24:44,247
tracts.

487
00:24:44,247 --> 00:24:45,445
There are some restrictions on

488
00:24:45,445 --> 00:24:47,316
the property with the zoning

489
00:24:47,316 --> 00:24:49,415
and rather than going and

490
00:24:49,415 --> 00:24:51,348
trying to do smaller lots, I

491
00:24:51,348 --> 00:24:52,616
did two five acre lots.

492
00:24:52,616 --> 00:24:55,590
Sold the other five acres and

493
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:56,856
both of us built nice houses on

494
00:24:56,856 --> 00:24:58,856
that property.

495
00:25:00,859 --> 00:25:01,994
If you take my house and my

496
00:25:01,994 --> 00:25:03,795
neighbor's house, mike, mike

497
00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:05,196
rodriguez, who is against this

498
00:25:05,196 --> 00:25:08,196
problem correct, his fence line

499
00:25:09,766 --> 00:25:12,766
is within 200 feet of this

500
00:25:14,804 --> 00:25:16,600
project minus 300 feet.

501
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,406
the tax value is $979,370.

502
00:25:18,677 --> 00:25:21,790
We sit on nice tracts of land.

503
00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:21,612
We have oak trees, we have pine

504
00:25:21,612 --> 00:25:24,120
trees, we have ponds.

505
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:26,350
It is a nice use of that

506
00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:27,683
property.

507
00:25:27,683 --> 00:25:29,321
The property on the other side

508
00:25:29,321 --> 00:25:32,321
of the street was 20-acres

509
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:33,388
zoned by a woman who raises

510
00:25:33,388 --> 00:25:35,388
horses.

511
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,260
And the other 60-acres is owned

512
00:25:38,260 --> 00:25:38,963
by a woman who has horses and

513
00:25:38,963 --> 00:25:39,963
does riding lessons.

514
00:25:39,963 --> 00:25:41,431
And there are oak trees and I

515
00:25:41,431 --> 00:25:45,631
guess it is all zoned the same

516
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,301
on the other side, which is low

517
00:25:47,301 --> 00:25:48,973
density rural real estate type

518
00:25:48,973 --> 00:25:50,638
development and I think it is a

519
00:25:50,638 --> 00:25:53,638
good use for that property.

520
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,100
There is net any side streets

521
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,179
on my section and I do not

522
00:25:59,179 --> 00:25:59,716
think it will ever be extended

523
00:25:59,716 --> 00:26:01,349
past the power plant.

524
00:26:01,349 --> 00:26:01,714
Soy only have one way in and

525
00:26:01,714 --> 00:26:03,714
one way out.

526
00:26:04,116 --> 00:26:08,792
So when I leave for the rest of

527
00:26:08,792 --> 00:26:11,920
my day, I will driving by 14-

528
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,192
foot tall boat barns.

529
00:26:12,192 --> 00:26:15,933
I did not want to invest thatch

530
00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:17,596
money to have some residential

531
00:26:17,596 --> 00:26:17,929
property rezoned into

532
00:26:17,929 --> 00:26:19,929
commercial.

533
00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:23,339
I just, my wife and I are 100%

534
00:26:23,339 --> 00:26:25,339
against this.

535
00:26:26,173 --> 00:26:28,420
And fear we have also is this

536
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,743
the lady that sold the five

537
00:26:30,743 --> 00:26:34,943
acres to him, now she has ten

538
00:26:35,582 --> 00:26:38,315
acres, and she is not from

539
00:26:38,315 --> 00:26:39,651
here, she was divorced and

540
00:26:39,651 --> 00:26:41,180
needed to sell property to

541
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:43,620
raise money, she wants to sell

542
00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:44,289
the rest of her ten acres so

543
00:26:44,289 --> 00:26:46,689
that she can leaf.

544
00:26:48,793 --> 00:26:50,661
So our fear is that once this

545
00:26:50,661 --> 00:26:52,931
is approved, then at some point

546
00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:56,531
in the future, the next buyer

547
00:26:56,868 --> 00:26:59,871
for her other two tracts of

548
00:26:59,871 --> 00:27:02,974
land is going to be for other

549
00:27:02,974 --> 00:27:04,546
boat and rv storage.

550
00:27:04,546 --> 00:27:05,808
Well, there is commercial

551
00:27:05,808 --> 00:27:08,808
property on the other side.

552
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:11,480
There are boat barns and rv

553
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,180
developments on the other side

554
00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:14,180
of yorktown.

555
00:27:14,483 --> 00:27:17,483
But not on this side.

556
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:20,994
And so, I likened this end of

557
00:27:20,994 --> 00:27:23,595
walgreens to like dead oak.

558
00:27:23,595 --> 00:27:23,927
There are a lot of high end

559
00:27:23,927 --> 00:27:24,827
nice homes.

560
00:27:24,827 --> 00:27:28,564
And on this side, it can also

561
00:27:28,564 --> 00:27:28,800
be that and it is headed that

562
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,364
way.

563
00:27:29,364 --> 00:27:31,500
Ten acres have already

564
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:33,736
developed that way and I think

565
00:27:33,736 --> 00:27:37,750
there is going to be more

566
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:37,704
acreage with high end homes

567
00:27:37,704 --> 00:27:39,704
immediately surrounding this

568
00:27:39,975 --> 00:27:40,441
property, and it could be on

569
00:27:40,441 --> 00:27:41,109
this property also.

570
00:27:41,109 --> 00:27:43,109
Thank you.

571
00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:56,154
>> thank you very much, Mr.

572
00:28:13,172 --> 00:28:15,172
Meyer.

573
00:28:16,812 --> 00:28:17,309
>> I live on the block at the

574
00:28:17,309 --> 00:28:19,709
end of the road.

575
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:20,949
I am here to speak on a couple

576
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,448
of things.

577
00:28:22,448 --> 00:28:24,882
He is correct that the storm

578
00:28:24,882 --> 00:28:26,554
warning barns are on the -- barns

579
00:28:26,554 --> 00:28:27,922
are -- that the storage barns are

580
00:28:27,922 --> 00:28:29,855
on the east side of york town

581
00:28:29,855 --> 00:28:31,924
and that property next to them

582
00:28:31,924 --> 00:28:33,924
is for sale.

583
00:28:34,124 --> 00:28:37,724
It is about twice the retail

584
00:28:39,464 --> 00:28:39,865
value of the land that is in

585
00:28:39,865 --> 00:28:41,865
question today.

586
00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:42,700
So person that wants, they

587
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,700
could have bought that land,

588
00:28:47,371 --> 00:28:47,806
but he would have had to invs.

589
00:28:47,806 --> 00:28:49,730
Vest -- invest for.

590
00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:50,742
It is cheeper to come to you

591
00:28:50,742 --> 00:28:51,808
and buying land that is half as

592
00:28:51,808 --> 00:28:55,408
much and getting it zoned for

593
00:28:56,145 --> 00:28:56,879
change than it is to buy a

594
00:28:56,879 --> 00:28:58,385
commercial prommerty and build

595
00:28:58,385 --> 00:28:59,487
this -- property and build this

596
00:28:59,487 --> 00:29:01,887
building directly across the

597
00:29:02,517 --> 00:29:03,254
street from where he is want

598
00:29:03,254 --> 00:29:05,254
together build now.

599
00:29:06,857 --> 00:29:07,990
Secondarily, I have been there

600
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:09,325
since 1983, my family has been

601
00:29:09,325 --> 00:29:13,432
there and we have a great deal

602
00:29:13,432 --> 00:29:13,728
of money invested on that

603
00:29:13,728 --> 00:29:15,728
property.

604
00:29:18,765 --> 00:29:22,436
The navy has taken a fly over

605
00:29:22,436 --> 00:29:22,771
zone and made my five acres

606
00:29:22,771 --> 00:29:24,771
irregular.

607
00:29:24,773 --> 00:29:25,841
And cutting into my property

608
00:29:25,841 --> 00:29:28,477
would just increase the money

609
00:29:28,477 --> 00:29:28,742
that I am losing for property

610
00:29:28,742 --> 00:29:30,310
values.

611
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,910
Also, one other thing I would

612
00:29:37,817 --> 00:29:39,151
like to mention is there is no

613
00:29:39,151 --> 00:29:41,551
red light at yorktown.

614
00:29:44,623 --> 00:29:47,626
And we are talking about large

615
00:29:47,626 --> 00:29:49,940
rv and boat storage units here?

616
00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:51,534
You are going have a truck and

617
00:29:51,534 --> 00:29:53,632
a trailer at a very slow pace

618
00:29:53,632 --> 00:29:55,270
at very early hours of the

619
00:29:55,270 --> 00:29:57,437
morning when it is still dark,

620
00:29:57,437 --> 00:29:58,136
that is when people come to get

621
00:29:58,136 --> 00:30:00,136
their boats.

622
00:30:04,843 --> 00:30:08,780
So we are talking about a very

623
00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:10,615
serious traffic hazard here.

624
00:30:10,615 --> 00:30:13,615
We are talking ant vehicles

625
00:30:15,454 --> 00:30:17,656
that -- about vehicles that will

626
00:30:17,656 --> 00:30:19,458
be turning both on from wall

627
00:30:19,458 --> 00:30:20,558
wren, or from yorktown, into

628
00:30:20,558 --> 00:30:23,327
the parking lot, into the unit

629
00:30:23,327 --> 00:30:23,963
itself and it is going create

630
00:30:23,963 --> 00:30:26,363
many, many traffic hazards.

631
00:30:27,802 --> 00:30:30,269
There is a trailer park across

632
00:30:30,269 --> 00:30:33,269
the street with small children

633
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,400
that live there.

634
00:30:38,745 --> 00:30:40,415
When you have big big vehicles

635
00:30:40,415 --> 00:30:41,610
in dark -- have big vehicles and

636
00:30:41,610 --> 00:30:43,983
trailers, many times the lights

637
00:30:43,983 --> 00:30:46,416
do not work on the trailer.

638
00:30:46,416 --> 00:30:47,551
It is a lot of dangers.

639
00:30:47,551 --> 00:30:49,190
It is not ongoing hurt my

640
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:52,619
property values but it is going

641
00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:55,655
to hurt the safety and

642
00:30:59,930 --> 00:31:02,330
happiness in our community.

643
00:31:04,837 --> 00:31:06,837
Thank you.

644
00:31:11,106 --> 00:31:13,106
>> thank you, sir.

645
00:31:13,607 --> 00:31:14,400
>> council, thank you for

646
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
hearing me speak.

647
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,479
I am david [Inaudible] And I

648
00:31:18,479 --> 00:31:21,148
own the fife acres a -- the five

649
00:31:21,148 --> 00:31:24,484
acres next to where the boat

650
00:31:24,484 --> 00:31:26,189
barn is going to do, a property

651
00:31:26,189 --> 00:31:29,522
that I brought two yearsing a

652
00:31:29,522 --> 00:31:29,726
to build my wife's dream house

653
00:31:29,726 --> 00:31:31,326
on.

654
00:31:31,326 --> 00:31:32,526
We have 123-acres -- we have 23

655
00:31:32,526 --> 00:31:35,526
acres next to this property.

656
00:31:35,964 --> 00:31:36,229
I want to point out a couple of

657
00:31:36,229 --> 00:31:37,300
things.

658
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,332
First and foremost, as I said,

659
00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,902
I am going do be building my

660
00:31:41,902 --> 00:31:43,570
wife her dream house here.

661
00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:44,972
You said there are

662
00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:45,271
restrictions, mayor, on the

663
00:31:45,271 --> 00:31:46,574
property.

664
00:31:46,574 --> 00:31:48,341
Would you want it in your

665
00:31:48,341 --> 00:31:49,909
neighborhood if you were going

666
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:52,544
to build your dream house?

667
00:31:52,544 --> 00:31:54,815
Would you still be okay having

668
00:31:54,815 --> 00:31:56,948
your wife stare out the kitchen

669
00:31:56,948 --> 00:31:58,951
window that you have tried to

670
00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:00,880
build and stair together at

671
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:00,886
this boat -- and staring at this

672
00:32:00,886 --> 00:32:03,286
boat market every day.

673
00:32:04,892 --> 00:32:07,920
And this is a corner property,

674
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:07,725
there are several properties

675
00:32:07,725 --> 00:32:10,725
like this on a secondary

676
00:32:11,328 --> 00:32:12,196
roadway where where they are

677
00:32:12,196 --> 00:32:13,200
building neighborhoods.

678
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,466
There is one at flower bluff

679
00:32:13,466 --> 00:32:15,466
drive.

680
00:32:16,503 --> 00:32:17,801
So the location of the property

681
00:32:17,801 --> 00:32:19,568
is not an issue.

682
00:32:19,568 --> 00:32:21,742
These are all estate houses.

683
00:32:21,742 --> 00:32:24,407
If you look from pretty much

684
00:32:24,407 --> 00:32:26,309
all the way down to well,

685
00:32:26,309 --> 00:32:28,545
almost to laguna, it is all

686
00:32:28,545 --> 00:32:31,545
residential on this side of

687
00:32:31,914 --> 00:32:33,784
yorktown, every single one of

688
00:32:33,784 --> 00:32:34,551
them, estate homes, 20-acre

689
00:32:34,551 --> 00:32:37,540
tracts, five acres, ten acres,

690
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:39,756
all the way down the line.

691
00:32:39,756 --> 00:32:43,662
This does not fit the use of

692
00:32:43,662 --> 00:32:43,962
that portion of york town at

693
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:45,962
the all.

694
00:32:47,696 --> 00:32:47,962
These are not small tract type

695
00:32:47,962 --> 00:32:49,962
houses.

696
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:50,266
These are half million dollar

697
00:32:50,266 --> 00:32:51,334
hours.

698
00:32:51,334 --> 00:32:55,534
I do not really think if you

699
00:32:57,239 --> 00:32:57,805
had that type of money in your

700
00:32:57,805 --> 00:32:58,840
house, regardless of the

701
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,900
restrictions, you would want

702
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:00,243
someone popping up with a boat

703
00:33:00,243 --> 00:33:02,243
barn.

704
00:33:02,444 --> 00:33:04,145
I do not think anybody would.

705
00:33:04,145 --> 00:33:05,111
As my neighborhood said, there

706
00:33:05,111 --> 00:33:06,517
was a commercial property

707
00:33:06,517 --> 00:33:08,830
across the street, I would not

708
00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:09,116
have issues with someone

709
00:33:09,116 --> 00:33:11,516
building on that property.

710
00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:12,519
It was zoned commercial when I

711
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:13,753
brought my property.

712
00:33:13,753 --> 00:33:16,391
So knowing full well it was

713
00:33:16,391 --> 00:33:16,689
zoned that way, I brought the

714
00:33:16,689 --> 00:33:18,689
property.

715
00:33:19,625 --> 00:33:20,950
This property next door was not

716
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:21,895
zoned commercial.

717
00:33:21,895 --> 00:33:23,465
So for someone to come in and

718
00:33:23,465 --> 00:33:24,865
put something in that is not

719
00:33:24,865 --> 00:33:26,799
going to bring value to the

720
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,680
community, it is really, it

721
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,302
does not make any sense.

722
00:33:30,302 --> 00:33:33,576
Lastly, I want to touch on

723
00:33:33,576 --> 00:33:35,411
something that is important to

724
00:33:35,411 --> 00:33:36,412
the city council and the city,

725
00:33:36,412 --> 00:33:38,279
the taxes.

726
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:39,778
If you look at taxes of other

727
00:33:39,778 --> 00:33:41,346
facilities just like this, they

728
00:33:41,346 --> 00:33:43,816
do not come near to where the

729
00:33:43,816 --> 00:33:46,785
house I am going to build, as

730
00:33:46,785 --> 00:33:47,288
far as the taxes it is again

731
00:33:47,288 --> 00:33:49,688
rating for the city.

732
00:33:52,591 --> 00:33:55,226
So yes, in the short term, they

733
00:33:55,226 --> 00:33:57,363
are going to extend the sewer

734
00:33:57,363 --> 00:34:00,565
line, well, yes, in the short

735
00:34:00,565 --> 00:34:02,401
term, that going to happen.

736
00:34:02,401 --> 00:34:03,735
In the long term the tax value

737
00:34:03,735 --> 00:34:06,839
nowhere near the taxes that are

738
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:07,406
going to be drawn from my house

739
00:34:07,406 --> 00:34:08,637
to houses surrounding it.

740
00:34:08,637 --> 00:34:11,809
Now you are going to lower that

741
00:34:11,809 --> 00:34:15,513
and it makes no sense at all.

742
00:34:15,513 --> 00:34:15,746
Again, there is a lot of issues

743
00:34:15,746 --> 00:34:17,246
here.

744
00:34:17,246 --> 00:34:17,515
You know you have two different

745
00:34:17,515 --> 00:34:18,181
people.

746
00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:19,450
This is america everybody wants

747
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:23,650
to do what they want to do.

748
00:34:23,956 --> 00:34:24,354
I spent eight years in the army

749
00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:25,522
expending that.

750
00:34:25,522 --> 00:34:28,258
But the fact that is that it

751
00:34:28,258 --> 00:34:29,995
does not fit.W a neighborhood

752
00:34:29,995 --> 00:34:31,563
or a residential area, a good

753
00:34:31,563 --> 00:34:32,763
thing going, you do not want

754
00:34:32,763 --> 00:34:35,333
room by someone who did not

755
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:36,300
want to spend the money on the

756
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:36,567
building that was already

757
00:34:36,567 --> 00:34:37,700
there.

758
00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:41,300
So before you vote on this,

759
00:34:44,673 --> 00:34:48,643
please d not just look at the

760
00:34:48,643 --> 00:34:48,910
emotional side,, look at the

761
00:34:48,910 --> 00:34:50,810
taxes.

762
00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:53,179
I -- side, look at the taxes.

763
00:34:53,179 --> 00:34:53,515
I am going to have a $500,000

764
00:34:53,515 --> 00:34:54,581
home there.

765
00:34:54,581 --> 00:34:58,181
There is a huge difference in

766
00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:00,200
what the city will draw in

767
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,353
taxes.

768
00:35:00,353 --> 00:35:01,325
Thank you.

769
00:35:01,325 --> 00:35:03,325
>> thank you.

770
00:35:07,328 --> 00:35:09,950
Anyone else for public comment

771
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:09,965
on item number m5 1? Motion to

772
00:35:09,965 --> 00:35:11,965
close public comment.

773
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,473
We have a motion and a second.

774
00:35:15,473 --> 00:35:17,873
Is there any discussion?

775
00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:20,400
All in favor.

776
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,707
Opposed, same sign.

777
00:35:20,707 --> 00:35:21,500
Motion carries.

778
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:23,500
Mr. Loeb.

779
00:35:23,178 --> 00:35:25,344
>> what is the future land use

780
00:35:25,344 --> 00:35:27,414
map say on this sight?

781
00:35:27,414 --> 00:35:31,140
>> the future land use map does

782
00:35:31,751 --> 00:35:32,115
call it for low family

783
00:35:32,115 --> 00:35:32,420
residential.

784
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:33,718
>> okay.

785
00:35:33,718 --> 00:35:35,688
Does it call for any commercial

786
00:35:35,688 --> 00:35:37,688
south of yorktown?

787
00:35:37,822 --> 00:35:40,222
>> no, the area development

788
00:35:42,529 --> 00:35:43,963
plan, the flower bluff plan

789
00:35:43,963 --> 00:35:45,161
calls for commercial uses

790
00:35:45,161 --> 00:35:47,960
between fire bluff and laguna.

791
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,732
So that is a reason why we did

792
00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:51,732
choose to go with a

793
00:35:52,668 --> 00:35:53,805
neighborhood commercial zoning

794
00:35:53,805 --> 00:35:55,805
for this property.

795
00:36:00,979 --> 00:36:03,979
>> okay, are there vacant, the

796
00:36:04,384 --> 00:36:04,784
corner sight just to the north

797
00:36:04,784 --> 00:36:05,448
is vacant?

798
00:36:05,448 --> 00:36:07,448
>> yes.

799
00:36:07,855 --> 00:36:08,121
>> how many vacant property is

800
00:36:08,121 --> 00:36:10,121
there?

801
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:12,990
>> could you also point out toe

802
00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:15,724
that on the -- out to that on the

803
00:36:15,724 --> 00:36:15,992
map and make that area a little

804
00:36:15,992 --> 00:36:17,992
larger?

805
00:36:18,263 --> 00:36:21,263
>> yes, do you have closer?

806
00:36:29,905 --> 00:36:30,240
>> I think, do psg~we have the next

807
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,274
slide over?

808
00:36:31,274 --> 00:36:33,674
>> okay, that shows that

809
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:38,647
property to the north, that is

810
00:36:38,647 --> 00:36:40,647
currently zoned commercial.

811
00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:45,320
>> okay, can you point to it?

812
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Okay.

813
00:36:48,756 --> 00:36:50,756
Thank you.

814
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,162
>> we can see you writing on

815
00:36:51,162 --> 00:36:51,624
it.

816
00:36:51,624 --> 00:36:54,240
>> oh, I am sorry.

817
00:36:55,663 --> 00:36:55,931
>> it is not showing up on my

818
00:36:55,931 --> 00:36:57,931
screen.

819
00:37:02,836 --> 00:37:03,339
This property right here is the

820
00:37:03,339 --> 00:37:05,339
commercial property.

821
00:37:08,911 --> 00:37:10,908
It is current I will vacant and

822
00:37:10,908 --> 00:37:13,880
to the -- currently vacant and in

823
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,215
the north you can see the

824
00:37:15,215 --> 00:37:16,283
storage that silty that is-

825
00:37:16,283 --> 00:37:17,470
-storage facility that is

826
00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:19,470
already there.

827
00:37:19,484 --> 00:37:21,254
It is already zoned commercial.

828
00:37:21,254 --> 00:37:24,189
I just want to know that note-

829
00:37:24,189 --> 00:37:26,491
-want to note that again, it is

830
00:37:26,491 --> 00:37:27,457
zoned commercial, it would

831
00:37:27,457 --> 00:37:30,457
still have the limitations of

832
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,330
400 square feet for that

833
00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:32,464
property.

834
00:37:32,464 --> 00:37:34,799
Also, I just want to mention

835
00:37:34,799 --> 00:37:36,365
that the south portion of this

836
00:37:36,365 --> 00:37:37,636
property right now is currently

837
00:37:37,636 --> 00:37:39,640
zoned for a mobile home.

838
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,813
So if someone wanted to come in

839
00:37:43,813 --> 00:37:45,176
and place a mobile home on that

840
00:37:45,176 --> 00:37:45,742
property, they could without

841
00:37:45,742 --> 00:37:46,811
any rezoning.

842
00:37:46,811 --> 00:37:47,945
>> all right.

843
00:37:47,945 --> 00:37:50,345
>> that is near residential

844
00:37:55,551 --> 00:37:55,819
area that we are speak to go

845
00:37:55,819 --> 00:37:56,386
today?

846
00:37:56,386 --> 00:37:58,386
>> yes.

847
00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:00,560
-- that we are speaking to

848
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:00,993
today.

849
00:38:00,993 --> 00:38:02,328
>> I believe there is more

850
00:38:02,328 --> 00:38:05,928
property to the north but also,

851
00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:08,630
keep in mind, we do not have a

852
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:09,630
map here, but there is the aq

853
00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:12,663
zone that comes off the field

854
00:38:14,171 --> 00:38:15,105
and a lot of that is limited by

855
00:38:15,105 --> 00:38:17,105
that particular --

856
00:38:18,708 --> 00:38:19,241
>> but a boat barn is fine

857
00:38:19,241 --> 00:38:20,475
there, right?

858
00:38:20,475 --> 00:38:20,876
>> correct.

859
00:38:20,876 --> 00:38:22,876
>> okay.

860
00:38:24,446 --> 00:38:25,447
But the the estate -- but the

861
00:38:25,447 --> 00:38:27,847
estate residential is a

862
00:38:28,184 --> 00:38:28,450
preferred use there as well, it

863
00:38:28,450 --> 00:38:30,450
is not?

864
00:38:31,386 --> 00:38:33,386
>> yes it is.

865
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:34,422
>> all right, the 20% rule?

866
00:38:34,422 --> 00:38:36,422
>> yes.

867
00:38:39,826 --> 00:38:40,160
>> does that mean it is

868
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,927
unanimous?

869
00:38:40,927 --> 00:38:43,164
>> it requires a three-quarter

870
00:38:43,164 --> 00:38:43,663
vote of the council.

871
00:38:43,663 --> 00:38:46,630
So that is seven.

872
00:38:46,669 --> 00:38:48,202
>> that is all of us?

873
00:38:48,202 --> 00:38:51,802
>> I am not really convinced on

874
00:38:54,742 --> 00:38:55,241
this so I think I am going to

875
00:38:55,241 --> 00:38:56,545
vote no.

876
00:38:56,545 --> 00:39:00,145
I think, I think this is

877
00:39:00,846 --> 00:39:03,753
problem based on the zoning

878
00:39:03,753 --> 00:39:06,153
districts we put together.

879
00:39:07,889 --> 00:39:09,321
And so I, the thing, people

880
00:39:09,321 --> 00:39:10,626
want to put boat barns near the

881
00:39:10,626 --> 00:39:11,188
water around people want to

882
00:39:11,188 --> 00:39:13,588
live near the water.

883
00:39:13,792 --> 00:39:17,392
And I think it is really

884
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:20,996
beneficial for staff to work on

885
00:39:22,803 --> 00:39:25,803
a zoning district that would

886
00:39:28,505 --> 00:39:31,505
allow some of those water

887
00:39:31,509 --> 00:39:32,610
oriented commercial

888
00:39:32,610 --> 00:39:32,946
developments that are not

889
00:39:32,946 --> 00:39:34,878
consistent.

890
00:39:34,878 --> 00:39:36,748
Because I think doing all of

891
00:39:36,748 --> 00:39:40,348
those by special permit is a

892
00:39:40,485 --> 00:39:43,918
bad idea and I think generally,

893
00:39:43,918 --> 00:39:46,189
just giving people industrial

894
00:39:46,189 --> 00:39:48,423
zoning for them is really bad.

895
00:39:48,423 --> 00:39:51,694
And then kind of just doing

896
00:39:51,694 --> 00:39:53,663
them all case by case with the

897
00:39:53,663 --> 00:39:56,663
special permit to maybe, maybe

898
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,772
it is changing cg1 to give it

899
00:40:00,772 --> 00:40:03,570
an extra 60 feet if that is

900
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:03,772
what a standard boat barn bay

901
00:40:03,772 --> 00:40:05,772
is.

902
00:40:07,376 --> 00:40:08,143
But it just seems like the

903
00:40:08,143 --> 00:40:10,381
ordnance is unwieldy and this

904
00:40:10,381 --> 00:40:14,581
is maybe where we need to do

905
00:40:15,451 --> 00:40:16,987
some work.

906
00:40:16,987 --> 00:40:17,354
So that is my thoughts.

907
00:40:17,354 --> 00:40:19,123
>> thank you.

908
00:40:19,123 --> 00:40:22,157
You know, that is why we have

909
00:40:22,157 --> 00:40:22,555
the process and we listen to

910
00:40:22,555 --> 00:40:24,555
the public.

911
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:27,797
And I will tell you what

912
00:40:27,797 --> 00:40:28,331
resinated with me, what Mr.

913
00:40:28,331 --> 00:40:29,128
Meyer also said is the

914
00:40:29,128 --> 00:40:31,128
President [Inaudible-low

915
00:40:32,765 --> 00:40:35,165
volume] With the neighboring

916
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,971
property when it gets sold.

917
00:40:37,971 --> 00:40:39,537
And once we do set a precedent

918
00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:43,137
and then you are right, they

919
00:40:43,943 --> 00:40:45,180
say well, we did it here and

920
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:48,180
you changed the whole intent.

921
00:40:50,548 --> 00:40:54,148
So, I am listening to you.

922
00:40:54,753 --> 00:40:55,120
And I hear you.

923
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,488
Ms. Mcintyre.

924
00:40:55,488 --> 00:40:56,155
>> thank you.

925
00:40:56,155 --> 00:40:56,889
Just listening and hearing for

926
00:40:56,889 --> 00:40:59,920
little while on this one, I

927
00:40:59,920 --> 00:40:59,392
have to tell you and it is a

928
00:40:59,392 --> 00:41:00,494
hard one.

929
00:41:00,494 --> 00:41:02,364
Because you want boats near the

930
00:41:02,364 --> 00:41:03,898
water and you want to have

931
00:41:03,898 --> 00:41:05,290
people have storage and with

932
00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:07,701
code enforcement reel I will

933
00:41:07,701 --> 00:41:10,469
trying to be strict about that,

934
00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:12,636
it does create a great renied.

935
00:41:12,636 --> 00:41:14,104
But I would echo david's

936
00:41:14,104 --> 00:41:17,104
comments that having a zoning

937
00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:17,740
that makes us not go to special

938
00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:21,340
per nit every time -- permit

939
00:41:21,512 --> 00:41:21,812
every time would be very

940
00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:23,812
helpful.

941
00:41:27,117 --> 00:41:28,319
When you go down yorktown, you

942
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:29,510
start the at the bridge and-

943
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:31,889
-start at the bridge and I

944
00:41:31,889 --> 00:41:34,694
think it is important to keep

945
00:41:34,694 --> 00:41:35,995
that, when you look, also

946
00:41:35,995 --> 00:41:38,395
driving through flower bluff

947
00:41:40,162 --> 00:41:42,199
and seeing how much commercial

948
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,199
property is available in the

949
00:41:46,536 --> 00:41:47,300
bluff as general, it also

950
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:49,300
serves its purpose.

951
00:41:52,807 --> 00:41:54,775
[Inaudible-low volume] That

952
00:41:54,775 --> 00:41:55,978
has development just platted

953
00:41:55,978 --> 00:41:58,449
recently, to take that out of

954
00:41:58,449 --> 00:41:59,882
that and you look at properties

955
00:41:59,882 --> 00:42:00,218
that are being put in the bluff

956
00:42:00,218 --> 00:42:01,983
right now.

957
00:42:01,983 --> 00:42:03,887
It is a great place to live and

958
00:42:03,887 --> 00:42:06,521
people want to be there.

959
00:42:06,521 --> 00:42:08,540
And there is residential

960
00:42:08,540 --> 00:42:09,223
property being planned and

961
00:42:09,223 --> 00:42:10,422
developed, you cannot drive

962
00:42:10,422 --> 00:42:13,910
down the road without seeing a

963
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:13,660
new neighborhood coming up on a

964
00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:15,660
regular basis.

965
00:42:16,262 --> 00:42:20,462
And so it does not matter for

966
00:42:21,469 --> 00:42:25,906
me to say this, I am not going

967
00:42:25,906 --> 00:42:26,640
to support the changes.

968
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,640
>> Mr. Magill.

969
00:42:31,244 --> 00:42:32,246
>> orange the traffic concern,

970
00:42:32,246 --> 00:42:33,912
is there, is there not a

971
00:42:33,912 --> 00:42:35,748
stoplight or a stop line?

972
00:42:35,748 --> 00:42:37,684
I know there is not a light,

973
00:42:37,684 --> 00:42:41,518
but is there not a stop sign?

974
00:42:41,518 --> 00:42:43,860
>> it is an one-way stop line.

975
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:45,726
It is a two-way, I guess.

976
00:42:45,726 --> 00:42:47,626
>> yes, can we take a look at

977
00:42:47,626 --> 00:42:50,462
that as staff just to make sure

978
00:42:50,462 --> 00:42:53,467
that that is the best possible

979
00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:53,999
within the means of the

980
00:42:53,999 --> 00:42:54,732
financial availability.

981
00:42:54,732 --> 00:42:56,400
I just want to make sure that

982
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,302
is not a concern in the future.

983
00:42:57,302 --> 00:42:59,302
>> will do.

984
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,440
>> and with this, regarding the

985
00:43:03,708 --> 00:43:04,742
fact that it would require a

986
00:43:04,742 --> 00:43:06,742
two-thirds, or three-quarters

987
00:43:11,615 --> 00:43:12,816
today, is that with the zoning,

988
00:43:12,816 --> 00:43:15,170
that Councilman Loeb and

989
00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:15,386
Councilwoman Mcentire brought

990
00:43:15,386 --> 00:43:17,386
up, I agree.

991
00:43:18,121 --> 00:43:20,555
We give vast time to come back

992
00:43:20,555 --> 00:43:23,460
with -- can we give staff time to

993
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:26,263
come back, can we table this?

994
00:43:26,263 --> 00:43:27,763
Or I am just, I am posing the

995
00:43:27,763 --> 00:43:29,799
question, do we give staff time

996
00:43:29,799 --> 00:43:33,399
to come back with a zoning?

997
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:35,338
>> well, I think that is a fair

998
00:43:35,338 --> 00:43:37,338
question.

999
00:43:38,506 --> 00:43:40,776
However, to me, now, listening

1000
00:43:40,776 --> 00:43:43,100
to the concerns and I was very

1001
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:45,983
impressed with the applicant of

1002
00:43:45,983 --> 00:43:46,748
taking all of those

1003
00:43:46,748 --> 00:43:49,148
restrictions and trying to

1004
00:43:49,815 --> 00:43:50,149
coexist and work well with the

1005
00:43:50,149 --> 00:43:51,789
neighbors.

1006
00:43:51,789 --> 00:43:55,589
But, it is not going to change

1007
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:56,991
this area that was once

1008
00:43:56,991 --> 00:43:59,893
considered to me, my concern is

1009
00:43:59,893 --> 00:44:02,465
once this is dealt with, what

1010
00:44:02,465 --> 00:44:02,864
it does with the precedent

1011
00:44:02,864 --> 00:44:04,864
going forward.

1012
00:44:06,168 --> 00:44:07,201
And I am prepared to voted to

1013
00:44:07,201 --> 00:44:09,201
on this.

1014
00:44:12,305 --> 00:44:15,905
But, if is there anyone else,

1015
00:44:18,145 --> 00:44:18,511
excuse me, to Mr. Magill's

1016
00:44:18,511 --> 00:44:18,811
subjoinsdown.

1017
00:44:18,811 --> 00:44:19,246
Mr. Loeb.

1018
00:44:19,246 --> 00:44:19,544
>> -- suggestion.

1019
00:44:19,544 --> 00:44:21,544
Mr. Loeb.

1020
00:44:21,814 --> 00:44:22,790
>> I am ready to vote on this

1021
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:22,481
today.

1022
00:44:22,481 --> 00:44:24,352
But separately.

1023
00:44:24,352 --> 00:44:26,989
I think staff needs to work on

1024
00:44:26,989 --> 00:44:30,189
modifying it so it is a

1025
00:44:30,189 --> 00:44:33,250
standard size, or whatever the

1026
00:44:33,250 --> 00:44:34,460
base zoning district for the

1027
00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:36,860
commercial is that allows

1028
00:44:36,927 --> 00:44:39,970
storage but upping it enough so

1029
00:44:39,970 --> 00:44:41,536
this, you know, the standard

1030
00:44:41,536 --> 00:44:44,136
vote will fit in one of those

1031
00:44:44,136 --> 00:44:44,438
or doing a different zoning

1032
00:44:44,438 --> 00:44:45,337
district.

1033
00:44:45,337 --> 00:44:46,503
But I think that is something

1034
00:44:46,503 --> 00:44:49,442
that staff needs to take some

1035
00:44:49,442 --> 00:44:51,609
time to really lock at rather

1036
00:44:51,609 --> 00:44:53,745
than just -- to look at rather

1037
00:44:53,745 --> 00:44:54,145
than us just telling them one

1038
00:44:54,145 --> 00:44:56,145
or another.

1039
00:44:56,211 --> 00:44:59,211
>> this is the second request

1040
00:45:00,987 --> 00:45:01,419
similar to this with the size

1041
00:45:01,419 --> 00:45:01,818
limb limitations.

1042
00:45:01,818 --> 00:45:03,356
-- limitations.

1043
00:45:03,356 --> 00:45:05,286
So the talk has been do we need

1044
00:45:05,286 --> 00:45:08,286
to modify that 400 square foot

1045
00:45:09,293 --> 00:45:11,227
limit to something like 600 or

1046
00:45:11,227 --> 00:45:13,627
500 because it seems like 400,

1047
00:45:15,310 --> 00:45:15,432
500 has been a common number

1048
00:45:15,432 --> 00:45:16,700
already twice.

1049
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:18,668
So that conversation has

1050
00:45:18,668 --> 00:45:20,668
already been started.

1051
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:22,807
>> yes, to Mr. Magill's point,

1052
00:45:22,807 --> 00:45:25,207
to have that separate

1053
00:45:26,644 --> 00:45:26,876
conservation and then come

1054
00:45:26,876 --> 00:45:27,943
back.

1055
00:45:27,943 --> 00:45:29,943
Mr. Magill, sorry.

1056
00:45:30,812 --> 00:45:31,215
>> thank you, I appreciate the

1057
00:45:31,215 --> 00:45:31,985
clarification.

1058
00:45:31,985 --> 00:45:33,985
So thank you.

1059
00:45:35,984 --> 00:45:37,519
>> thank you, Mr. Magill.

1060
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:37,854
Appreciate your comments.

1061
00:45:37,854 --> 00:45:38,289
Mr. Garza.

1062
00:45:38,289 --> 00:45:40,289
>> thanks.

1063
00:45:41,487 --> 00:45:43,590
I was going to say the same

1064
00:45:43,590 --> 00:45:44,628
thing about us creating a

1065
00:45:44,628 --> 00:45:47,280
different zoning, it is

1066
00:45:47,395 --> 00:45:47,896
something that we missed when

1067
00:45:47,896 --> 00:45:48,231
working on the zoning

1068
00:45:48,231 --> 00:45:49,964
committee.

1069
00:45:49,964 --> 00:45:52,970
And it is the second time that

1070
00:45:52,970 --> 00:45:53,333
I have seen this issue come up.

1071
00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:55,768
But I do want to articulate

1072
00:45:55,768 --> 00:45:59,439
that we are going to be seeing,

1073
00:45:59,439 --> 00:46:00,978
I think, more and more requests

1074
00:46:00,978 --> 00:46:03,978
for zoning for boat storages

1075
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:08,415
and RVs because of all of the

1076
00:46:08,415 --> 00:46:10,820
activity that we are seeing in

1077
00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:12,189
the laguna and in our area.

1078
00:46:12,189 --> 00:46:14,653
At some point, we are going to

1079
00:46:14,653 --> 00:46:16,123
rezone it and be able to allow.

1080
00:46:16,123 --> 00:46:19,723
Because it is going to take

1081
00:46:20,494 --> 00:46:22,427
some of the vote traffic out

1082
00:46:22,427 --> 00:46:26,627
and allow -- the boat traffic out

1083
00:46:26,667 --> 00:46:29,501
and let people just haul them

1084
00:46:29,501 --> 00:46:31,300
down the block, to the marina [

1085
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:33,300
Inaudible-low volume] We

1086
00:46:34,207 --> 00:46:37,140
need to keep that in mind.

1087
00:46:37,140 --> 00:46:37,978
>> thank you, Mr. Garza.

1088
00:46:37,978 --> 00:46:39,978
Ms. Mcentire.

1089
00:46:41,712 --> 00:46:43,815
>> thank you, I wanted, we just

1090
00:46:43,815 --> 00:46:45,383
dealt with this over at graham

1091
00:46:45,383 --> 00:46:46,617
and thompson road, right

1092
00:46:46,617 --> 00:46:47,720
between the two of those and

1093
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:48,785
the size was the biggest

1094
00:46:48,785 --> 00:46:50,354
concern there as well.

1095
00:46:50,354 --> 00:46:51,886
And if we can have it so that

1096
00:46:51,886 --> 00:46:54,325
it is able to get in without

1097
00:46:54,325 --> 00:46:57,270
having to do a special permit,

1098
00:46:57,270 --> 00:47:00,795
I did want to echo, I made some

1099
00:47:00,795 --> 00:47:03,703
notes on one other thing that I

1100
00:47:03,703 --> 00:47:04,367
did want to say, the

1101
00:47:04,367 --> 00:47:06,868
developers, I think they are

1102
00:47:06,868 --> 00:47:08,941
great at putting in the

1103
00:47:08,941 --> 00:47:09,509
property and keeping it nice

1104
00:47:09,509 --> 00:47:11,405
and clean.

1105
00:47:11,405 --> 00:47:14,176
And really, you need to be

1106
00:47:14,176 --> 00:47:15,747
within code and building a

1107
00:47:15,747 --> 00:47:17,770
quality product that you really

1108
00:47:17,770 --> 00:47:19,848
want to live next to.

1109
00:47:19,848 --> 00:47:24,480
That is one, when you look at

1110
00:47:24,651 --> 00:47:26,987
their other ones, they are good

1111
00:47:26,987 --> 00:47:27,354
with being responsible with the

1112
00:47:27,354 --> 00:47:29,354
neighborhood.

1113
00:47:30,392 --> 00:47:31,692
I think that their ability to

1114
00:47:31,692 --> 00:47:32,129
work with the neighborhood has

1115
00:47:32,129 --> 00:47:33,259
been commendable.

1116
00:47:33,259 --> 00:47:35,895
>> and thank you for saying

1117
00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:37,539
that about the priest family.

1118
00:47:37,539 --> 00:47:38,865
Because their intention of the,

1119
00:47:38,865 --> 00:47:40,734
what they were trying to do to

1120
00:47:40,734 --> 00:47:43,340
coexist, to me, it is more the

1121
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:45,605
long term of changing the whole

1122
00:47:45,605 --> 00:47:46,805
nature of this area for those

1123
00:47:46,805 --> 00:47:48,375
who invested in their homes.

1124
00:47:48,375 --> 00:47:48,606
That is what I have concerns

1125
00:47:48,606 --> 00:47:50,606
with.

1126
00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:52,812
And there is no doubt that the

1127
00:47:52,812 --> 00:47:55,812
priest family are first class

1128
00:47:56,749 --> 00:47:57,850
and really care about the

1129
00:47:57,850 --> 00:47:59,850
community.

1130
00:48:01,156 --> 00:48:01,385
Mrs. Huerta, we are ready to

1131
00:48:01,385 --> 00:48:03,385
vote.

1132
00:48:03,422 --> 00:48:03,623
>> okay, for ordnance number

1133
00:48:03,623 --> 00:48:04,791
52.

1134
00:48:04,791 --> 00:48:06,127
>> excuse me, it is 51.

1135
00:48:06,127 --> 00:48:07,795
>> it is 52.

1136
00:48:07,795 --> 00:48:08,260
>> oh, I am sorry.

1137
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:10,660
That was my error.

1138
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,600
>> it is way on the bottom.

1139
00:48:17,201 --> 00:48:18,640
>> thank you.

1140
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400
>> for passage of ordnance.

1141
00:48:30,715 --> 00:48:32,616
>> [Roll call vote taken]

1142
00:48:32,616 --> 00:48:34,616
>> the ordnance fails.

1143
00:48:35,251 --> 00:48:37,651
>>> thank you, item number 53.

1144
00:48:38,221 --> 00:48:39,626
>> oh, let ice move forward to

1145
00:48:39,626 --> 00:48:40,124
disturb-let's move forward to

1146
00:48:40,124 --> 00:48:42,124
public comment.

1147
00:48:42,392 --> 00:48:43,459
We would like to have it

1148
00:48:43,459 --> 00:48:45,859
approximately around 12:00 P.M.

1149
00:48:46,628 --> 00:48:48,364
Thank you for the patience of

1150
00:48:48,364 --> 00:48:50,764
those who are waiting.

1151
00:48:51,802 --> 00:48:55,402
if you can come forward around

1152
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:05,114
state your name an address

1153
00:49:05,114 --> 00:49:07,149
appreciate that, thank you.

1154
00:49:07,149 --> 00:49:08,149
>> mayor, council, jim,

1155
00:49:08,149 --> 00:49:08,514
recording secretary of U.S.

1156
00:49:08,514 --> 00:49:10,514
Local 235.

1157
00:49:10,588 --> 00:49:13,924
I am hear to share with the -- I

1158
00:49:13,924 --> 00:49:16,260
am here to share with the

1159
00:49:16,260 --> 00:49:19,260
council, and you, mayor, the

1160
00:49:23,229 --> 00:49:23,932
status of the ongoing labor

1161
00:49:23,932 --> 00:49:26,932
issue happening across the bay.

1162
00:49:30,435 --> 00:49:30,972
I would just like to share some

1163
00:49:30,972 --> 00:49:32,972
highlights with you.

1164
00:49:34,873 --> 00:49:37,440
Since bargaining started in

1165
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,440
July of 2014, we have demanded

1166
00:49:40,115 --> 00:49:43,182
deep cuts in pay and benefits

1167
00:49:43,182 --> 00:49:45,582
for our local numbers.

1168
00:49:45,951 --> 00:49:47,951
-- members.

1169
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,457
On October 10th, after re-

1170
00:49:50,457 --> 00:49:52,857
rejected their offer, the

1171
00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:55,730
company locked the gates and

1172
00:49:55,730 --> 00:49:57,730
locking out 450 families.

1173
00:49:59,167 --> 00:49:59,498
It effects our economic base

1174
00:49:59,498 --> 00:50:01,498
here in the

1175
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,600
city and we feel

1176
00:50:07,437 --> 00:50:10,437
that the cuts are unnecessary,

1177
00:50:11,243 --> 00:50:11,747
sherwin is an extremely

1178
00:50:11,747 --> 00:50:13,747
profitable company.

1179
00:50:15,749 --> 00:50:16,746
They have falling production

1180
00:50:16,746 --> 00:50:19,146
costs with rising production

1181
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:22,349
over the last ten years.

1182
00:50:25,923 --> 00:50:26,225
They are 100% owned by glenn

1183
00:50:26,225 --> 00:50:28,225
core ag.

1184
00:50:28,628 --> 00:50:31,628
And publicly owned trading and

1185
00:50:34,297 --> 00:50:34,964
mining company head quartered

1186
00:50:34,964 --> 00:50:36,964
in switzerland.

1187
00:50:38,334 --> 00:50:41,934
Glenn core is the tenth largest

1188
00:50:42,350 --> 00:50:44,435
company in the world.

1189
00:50:48,209 --> 00:50:48,647
They have revenues of $233

1190
00:50:48,647 --> 00:50:50,647
billion in 2013.

1191
00:50:50,715 --> 00:50:52,547
Net profits of $4.6 billion.

1192
00:50:52,547 --> 00:50:56,147
This is the first labor dispute

1193
00:50:58,487 --> 00:51:01,325
that we have had since they

1194
00:51:01,325 --> 00:51:02,290
bought us in 2007.

1195
00:51:02,290 --> 00:51:04,324
The repercussions on this

1196
00:51:04,324 --> 00:51:04,860
economically and e. Coli

1197
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:07,860
notionally to the -- and

1198
00:51:08,131 --> 00:51:09,966
emotionally, we would like to

1199
00:51:09,966 --> 00:51:13,400
ask the council to support both

1200
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,170
sides on this an urge them to

1201
00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:17,338
come back to the table and

1202
00:51:17,338 --> 00:51:19,172
reach a good resolution so

1203
00:51:19,172 --> 00:51:19,907
everyone can move on with their

1204
00:51:19,907 --> 00:51:22,907
lives and our neighborhood can

1205
00:51:23,445 --> 00:51:23,644
get back to where it needs to

1206
00:51:23,644 --> 00:51:25,281
be.

1207
00:51:25,281 --> 00:51:26,578
Thank you very much.

1208
00:51:26,578 --> 00:51:27,147
>> thank you for coming today.

1209
00:51:27,147 --> 00:51:27,445
>> [Inaudible-multiple

1210
00:51:27,445 --> 00:51:29,445
speakers]

1211
00:51:31,615 --> 00:51:34,186
>> we are not able to engage

1212
00:51:34,186 --> 00:51:35,688
per the open meetings act, only

1213
00:51:35,688 --> 00:51:36,540
for clarifications and

1214
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:36,422
corrections.

1215
00:51:36,422 --> 00:51:37,558
>> very good.

1216
00:51:37,558 --> 00:51:38,259
Thank you all very much.

1217
00:51:38,259 --> 00:51:41,259
You have a good holiday.

1218
00:51:48,301 --> 00:51:51,901
>> thank you, same to you, sir.

1219
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:55,540
Anyone else here for public

1220
00:51:55,540 --> 00:51:56,307
comment?

1221
00:51:56,307 --> 00:51:58,110
>> good afternoon, kerry

1222
00:51:58,110 --> 00:51:59,420
robertson meyer, glad to see

1223
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:00,111
all of you all.

1224
00:52:00,111 --> 00:52:03,711
I have a packet for each

1225
00:52:10,180 --> 00:52:10,486
person, can I pass that out?

1226
00:52:10,486 --> 00:52:11,521
>> sure.

1227
00:52:11,521 --> 00:52:13,521
>> okay.

1228
00:52:18,595 --> 00:52:19,629
>> can you restart the clock,

1229
00:52:19,629 --> 00:52:22,290
please for Ms. Meyer?

1230
00:52:22,733 --> 00:52:24,466
>> I will not be long any way.

1231
00:52:24,466 --> 00:52:26,303
He is passing out something

1232
00:52:26,303 --> 00:52:27,500
from the kn.E

1233
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:27,371
rbeach community

1234
00:52:27,371 --> 00:52:29,371
association.

1235
00:52:31,740 --> 00:52:33,411
I am the President Of that

1236
00:52:33,411 --> 00:52:34,111
group in north beach.

1237
00:52:34,111 --> 00:52:35,645
Colleen just said that flower

1238
00:52:35,645 --> 00:52:39,845
bluff is a great place to live

1239
00:52:40,415 --> 00:52:44,150
and people want to be there.

1240
00:52:45,352 --> 00:52:46,723
And because of that, your, your

1241
00:52:46,723 --> 00:52:49,123
discussion revolved around the

1242
00:52:49,623 --> 00:52:50,624
fact that you are representing

1243
00:52:50,624 --> 00:52:51,125
residents and taxpayers and

1244
00:52:51,125 --> 00:52:52,629
keeping them in mind.

1245
00:52:52,629 --> 00:52:52,992
And that is what we want to

1246
00:52:52,992 --> 00:52:54,666
north beach.

1247
00:52:54,666 --> 00:52:55,763
It is a great place to live and

1248
00:52:55,763 --> 00:52:57,931
people want to be there.

1249
00:52:57,931 --> 00:53:00,267
And yet in my neighborhood, on

1250
00:53:00,267 --> 00:53:01,502
the authority end of not beach,

1251
00:53:01,502 --> 00:53:04,305
street -- north end of north

1252
00:53:04,305 --> 00:53:05,708
beach, the street is filled

1253
00:53:05,708 --> 00:53:08,410
with potholes most of the time.

1254
00:53:08,410 --> 00:53:10,579
This is no sidewalk, no

1255
00:53:10,579 --> 00:53:12,211
gutters, no curbs, the water

1256
00:53:12,211 --> 00:53:14,112
pipe is six inch and it is

1257
00:53:14,112 --> 00:53:16,450
water front land that is empty

1258
00:53:16,450 --> 00:53:20,218
with a six in67 water pipe and

1259
00:53:20,218 --> 00:53:23,555
it has -- inch water pipe and-

1260
00:53:23,555 --> 00:53:24,890
-and it has been that way in a

1261
00:53:24,890 --> 00:53:26,890
long, long time.

1262
00:53:26,191 --> 00:53:29,791
In the 1990s, the city invested

1263
00:53:33,634 --> 00:53:34,865
on the south side of the beach

1264
00:53:34,865 --> 00:53:35,131
and improved the infrastructure

1265
00:53:35,131 --> 00:53:36,366
there.

1266
00:53:36,366 --> 00:53:39,404
And it is beautiful when you

1267
00:53:39,404 --> 00:53:40,573
drive all the way to the

1268
00:53:40,573 --> 00:53:41,675
aquarium in the lexington.

1269
00:53:41,675 --> 00:53:43,540
But on the north half at beach

1270
00:53:43,540 --> 00:53:47,112
up there where the tax bayers

1271
00:53:47,112 --> 00:53:47,411
live, that area has not been

1272
00:53:47,411 --> 00:53:48,177
improved.

1273
00:53:48,177 --> 00:53:51,177
We got improvements on the

1274
00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:52,750
beach through a bond but we

1275
00:53:52,750 --> 00:53:53,480
have not had neighborhood

1276
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,480
improve.

1277
00:53:57,286 --> 00:53:57,589
S. So that is what the pack-

1278
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:59,589
-improve.

1279
00:54:00,122 --> 00:54:02,326
S. So what is what the pack -- so

1280
00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:02,590
that is what the packet here is

1281
00:54:02,590 --> 00:54:04,590
about.

1282
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:07,630
The first one is not

1283
00:54:07,630 --> 00:54:09,630
necessarily for infrastructure.

1284
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:11,100
This is the hotel tax, it is

1285
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,101
asking you use that on north

1286
00:54:12,101 --> 00:54:14,603
beach for the things that it

1287
00:54:14,603 --> 00:54:14,871
can be used for on the beach

1288
00:54:14,871 --> 00:54:16,871
itself.

1289
00:54:17,538 --> 00:54:19,106
And that is explained in the

1290
00:54:19,106 --> 00:54:21,106
first letter.

1291
00:54:22,745 --> 00:54:24,145
The second letter talks about a

1292
00:54:24,145 --> 00:54:26,648
tax financing zone and we have

1293
00:54:26,648 --> 00:54:27,381
been talking about this for a

1294
00:54:27,381 --> 00:54:29,381
long time.

1295
00:54:29,549 --> 00:54:31,654
In fact joe and kevin came to

1296
00:54:31,654 --> 00:54:32,925
talk to us in 2009 and told us

1297
00:54:32,925 --> 00:54:34,890
what it would take, how we

1298
00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:36,493
needed to do it, how the

1299
00:54:36,493 --> 00:54:39,493
process would work and you

1300
00:54:40,228 --> 00:54:40,562
know, it fell between the

1301
00:54:40,562 --> 00:54:41,395
activities.

1302
00:54:41,395 --> 00:54:42,960
We didn't --- between the cracks.

1303
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,960
We didn't have a champion.

1304
00:54:45,597 --> 00:54:47,433
And because there is no funding

1305
00:54:47,433 --> 00:54:49,433
for north beach.

1306
00:54:51,536 --> 00:54:53,539
For authority beach improves.

1307
00:54:53,539 --> 00:54:53,941
You now -- for north beach

1308
00:54:53,941 --> 00:54:55,941
improve ments.

1309
00:54:56,812 --> 00:54:57,460
It is like how do you get in

1310
00:54:57,460 --> 00:54:58,945
line.

1311
00:54:58,945 --> 00:55:01,120
You know, how do we do this?

1312
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,546
Well, right now, it is |Spjust not

1313
00:55:01,546 --> 00:55:03,546
on the radar.

1314
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:05,384
So we are not going to get on

1315
00:55:05,384 --> 00:55:06,721
the improve project list

1316
00:55:06,721 --> 00:55:09,121
really, for major improve.

1317
00:55:09,554 --> 00:55:11,920
S so we think that if we did a

1318
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,920
tiff, just like downtown has

1319
00:55:28,606 --> 00:55:29,806
and the island and other areas.

1320
00:55:29,806 --> 00:55:31,413
>> thank you, Miss Meyer.

1321
00:55:31,413 --> 00:55:31,978
Thank you for coming.

1322
00:55:31,978 --> 00:55:33,446
>> mayor, council, I am [

1323
00:55:33,446 --> 00:55:35,446
Inaudible-low volume]

1324
00:55:36,618 --> 00:55:38,450
>> can you move the microphone

1325
00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:39,816
closer to you.

1326
00:55:39,816 --> 00:55:42,216
That is lot better.

1327
00:55:43,654 --> 00:55:46,540
>> I am Ms. Waller.

1328
00:55:47,356 --> 00:55:48,623
I live at 6133 hastings drive

1329
00:55:48,623 --> 00:55:51,230
in Mr. Garza's district.

1330
00:55:51,895 --> 00:55:54,665
And it is my privilege to serve

1331
00:55:54,665 --> 00:55:58,865
a third time as the Chairman Of

1332
00:56:02,139 --> 00:56:05,139
the corpus christi housing q-x`

1333
00:56:07,278 --> 00:56:09,278
authority board of

1334
00:56:09,645 --> 00:56:12,645
commissioners. I want to talk

1335
00:56:16,750 --> 00:56:17,850
about where we have a major

1336
00:56:17,850 --> 00:56:19,850
roadblock.

1337
00:56:22,291 --> 00:56:25,627
When I cam on the board, it was

1338
00:56:25,627 --> 00:56:27,795
in dis-awry, we were facing a

1339
00:56:27,795 --> 00:56:30,195
shutdown, a quite sincere

1340
00:56:33,468 --> 00:56:37,680
shutdown effort on the part of

1341
00:56:37,806 --> 00:56:38,380
ud-part of hud because it was

1342
00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:40,380
mess.

1343
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:43,509
And it had been neglected.

1344
00:56:43,509 --> 00:56:45,909
There was a crisis.

1345
00:56:46,446 --> 00:56:48,282
And in recorder to you have

1346
00:56:48,282 --> 00:56:50,285
problem, a -- and in order to

1347
00:56:50,285 --> 00:56:52,752
solve that problem, a new board

1348
00:56:52,752 --> 00:56:53,152
was picked to get this thing

1349
00:56:53,152 --> 00:56:55,152
back together.

1350
00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:56,222
Now hud, unlike a lot of

1351
00:56:56,222 --> 00:56:57,891
federal agencies takes the

1352
00:56:57,891 --> 00:56:58,922
position that if you are not

1353
00:56:58,922 --> 00:57:01,359
doing thicks well, you do-

1354
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:01,629
-things well, you do not get

1355
00:57:01,629 --> 00:57:03,629
money.

1356
00:57:04,431 --> 00:57:05,696
They decrease your money as you

1357
00:57:05,696 --> 00:57:07,931
do things worse and worse.

1358
00:57:07,931 --> 00:57:10,200
And we were a troubled agency.

1359
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,140
Over the years we have been

1360
00:57:12,140 --> 00:57:15,740
able to moved from a troubled

1361
00:57:15,740 --> 00:57:16,174
agency to one that is a high

1362
00:57:16,174 --> 00:57:18,174
performance agency.

1363
00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:20,610
And I am going to tell you

1364
00:57:20,610 --> 00:57:23,610
frankly, we have done it

1365
00:57:24,249 --> 00:57:25,820
without the help from the city

1366
00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:27,820
of corpus christi.

1367
00:57:28,421 --> 00:57:29,687
We have had good leaper ship

1368
00:57:29,687 --> 00:57:30,121
and -- good leadership and

1369
00:57:30,121 --> 00:57:32,121
excellent staff.

1370
00:57:36,259 --> 00:57:40,459
In that time we have been 1)]Not

1371
00:57:40,762 --> 00:57:41,864
only to right a sink ship.

1372
00:57:41,864 --> 00:57:44,864
We built housing for the

1373
00:57:45,769 --> 00:57:47,300
elderly and we have been trying

1374
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,474
for years to renovate, to make

1375
00:57:49,474 --> 00:57:51,210
it from a place that no one

1376
00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:54,790
wants to even walk in to a

1377
00:57:54,790 --> 00:57:56,678
place where you want to be

1378
00:57:56,678 --> 00:58:00,651
there and to be, to raise your

1379
00:58:00,651 --> 00:58:01,150
children there in a safe, good

1380
00:58:01,150 --> 00:58:03,150
environment.

1381
00:58:04,251 --> 00:58:08,451
I know of two times we have

1382
00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:12,160
tried to get an old hope sticks

1383
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,160
project.

1384
00:58:14,794 --> 00:58:15,999
And that federal money to

1385
00:58:15,999 --> 00:58:17,597
revitalize an area, zero help.

1386
00:58:17,597 --> 00:58:20,634
And the last time that hope

1387
00:58:20,634 --> 00:58:22,671
sticks was funded, we were in a

1388
00:58:22,671 --> 00:58:24,350
tie for the last bit of money.

1389
00:58:24,350 --> 00:58:26,308
And the reason we were told

1390
00:58:26,308 --> 00:58:29,442
that we didn't get it, one of

1391
00:58:29,442 --> 00:58:31,900
the main reasons was that we

1392
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:32,845
had no support from the city.

1393
00:58:32,845 --> 00:58:33,249
Well, I have talked too long.

1394
00:58:33,249 --> 00:58:35,249
>> thank you.

1395
00:58:35,747 --> 00:58:38,789
>> I would like a chance to

1396
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:39,453
talk with any of the council

1397
00:58:39,453 --> 00:58:40,421
members individually, if they

1398
00:58:40,421 --> 00:58:44,621
want a briefing on what we are

1399
00:58:51,331 --> 00:58:51,528
doing and what we are trying to

1400
00:58:51,528 --> 00:58:53,234
do.

1401
00:58:53,234 --> 00:58:55,634
>> thank you, Miss Waller.

1402
00:58:58,369 --> 00:59:00,338
>> I am gary, I am the ceo of

1403
00:59:00,338 --> 00:59:02,139
the housing authority.

1404
00:59:02,139 --> 00:59:03,808
I think that the piece that Ms.

1405
00:59:03,808 --> 00:59:05,876
Waller didn't get to was the

1406
00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:06,143
real reason that we are here

1407
00:59:06,143 --> 00:59:08,143
today.

1408
00:59:09,316 --> 00:59:11,716
We have been working through

1409
00:59:11,716 --> 00:59:13,386
the city so processes to -- city

1410
00:59:13,386 --> 00:59:14,985
processes to get some gap

1411
00:59:14,985 --> 00:59:15,455
funding to make this process,

1412
00:59:15,455 --> 00:59:17,855
or this plan work.

1413
00:59:18,722 --> 00:59:21,191
And in the last two days, we

1414
00:59:21,191 --> 00:59:22,190
have been removed from two two

1415
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:24,930
agendas that we thought were

1416
00:59:24,930 --> 00:59:26,229
going to put us in a position

1417
00:59:26,229 --> 00:59:28,660
to move forward.

1418
00:59:28,660 --> 00:59:30,466
Yesterday, re-were moved from

1419
00:59:30,803 --> 00:59:33,636
the type a board and we were

1420
00:59:33,636 --> 00:59:35,240
replaced by a presentation

1421
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,240
obama health the -- presentation

1422
00:59:41,977 --> 00:59:43,344
and the value on the

1423
00:59:43,344 --> 00:59:43,812
feasibility and impact of new

1424
00:59:43,812 --> 00:59:45,812
home construction.

1425
00:59:46,246 --> 00:59:47,783
So we are not sure why that

1426
00:59:47,783 --> 00:59:48,383
happened and then thought, I

1427
00:59:48,383 --> 00:59:49,820
thought -- and then today, I

1428
00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:51,322
thought we were on the agenda

1429
00:59:51,322 --> 00:59:53,356
to have a resolution of support

1430
00:59:53,356 --> 00:59:55,190
that we were going to be able

1431
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:58,190
to use with hour hud

1432
01:00:01,228 --> 01:00:01,631
application and that has been

1433
01:00:01,631 --> 01:00:03,298
pulled as well.

1434
01:00:03,298 --> 01:00:05,769
So we are trying to understand

1435
01:00:05,769 --> 01:00:07,836
the process and be a good

1436
01:00:07,836 --> 01:00:08,703
partner in trying to address

1437
01:00:08,703 --> 01:00:10,237
the affordable housing crisis

1438
01:00:10,237 --> 01:00:12,605
but we feel like we are not

1439
01:00:12,605 --> 01:00:14,440
sure where we are in the

1440
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,410
process at this time and @3\~we

1441
01:00:16,410 --> 01:00:17,141
wanted to bring this to the

1442
01:00:17,141 --> 01:00:19,541
council's attention because we

1443
01:00:19,751 --> 01:00:20,115
seem to hear good things from

1444
01:00:20,115 --> 01:00:22,115
the council.

1445
01:00:22,783 --> 01:00:24,718
But it does not seem like they

1446
01:00:24,718 --> 01:00:26,790
are getting any traction in

1447
01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:28,485
taking the next steps.

1448
01:00:28,485 --> 01:00:29,289
So that would really conclude

1449
01:00:29,289 --> 01:00:29,656
our ywm

1450
01:00:29,656 --> 01:00:31,528
rovide

1451
01:00:31,528 --> 01:00:33,958
the information that we thought

1452
01:00:33,958 --> 01:00:35,993
you needed to know.

1453
01:00:35,993 --> 01:00:36,461
>> thank you.

1454
01:00:36,461 --> 01:00:38,461
Mr. Olson?

1455
01:00:39,664 --> 01:00:42,664
>> just a clarifying comment on

1456
01:00:43,201 --> 01:00:44,668
the meeting yesterday, it is my

1457
01:00:44,668 --> 01:00:47,680
understanding that the board

1458
01:00:48,307 --> 01:00:49,576
took up the question about

1459
01:00:49,576 --> 01:00:51,975
modifying their policies that

1460
01:00:51,975 --> 01:00:53,580
would, and voted on a 3-2 vote

1461
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:55,814
to go ahead and modify the

1462
01:00:55,814 --> 01:00:58,840
policies that would allow for

1463
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,186
the use of type a money for

1464
01:00:59,186 --> 01:01:01,951
rental which would then open

1465
01:01:01,951 --> 01:01:03,221
the door to be able to deal

1466
01:01:03,221 --> 01:01:04,854
with the issue [Inaudible-

1467
01:01:04,854 --> 01:01:06,390
low volume]

1468
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:08,458
>> so toe clarify also -- so to

1469
01:01:08,458 --> 01:01:10,125
clarify also, now that the vote

1470
01:01:10,125 --> 01:01:12,763
has been taken, with changing

1471
01:01:12,763 --> 01:01:16,363
their policy to using some of

1472
01:01:17,133 --> 01:01:19,733
the affording housing type a

1473
01:01:19,733 --> 01:01:22,269
funds for rentals, now it is on

1474
01:01:22,269 --> 01:01:22,571
the agenda at our first January

1475
01:01:22,571 --> 01:01:23,775
meeting.

1476
01:01:23,775 --> 01:01:25,775
That is correct?

1477
01:01:29,977 --> 01:01:30,245
>> I am not suring of the

1478
01:01:30,245 --> 01:01:32,245
timing.

1479
01:01:33,130 --> 01:01:33,479
>> it is on our next, first

1480
01:01:33,479 --> 01:01:35,317
available meeting.

1481
01:01:35,317 --> 01:01:37,717
>> it is January 13th.

1482
01:01:39,821 --> 01:01:40,288
>> okay, could we put that on

1483
01:01:40,288 --> 01:01:41,388
the agenda, please?

1484
01:01:41,388 --> 01:01:42,294
>> [Inaudible-low volume]

1485
01:01:42,294 --> 01:01:44,128
Says yes, behind you.

1486
01:01:44,128 --> 01:01:47,128
>> okay, we are good then.

1487
01:01:48,195 --> 01:01:48,430
>> if she says yes, that is

1488
01:01:48,430 --> 01:01:49,699
yes.

1489
01:01:49,699 --> 01:01:52,990
>> our deputy city manager,

1490
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:53,832
would you like to address the

1491
01:01:53,832 --> 01:01:55,832
clarification any further?

1492
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:58,571
Okay, thank you, Mr. Olson.

1493
01:01:58,571 --> 01:01:58,872
I appreciate that.

1494
01:01:58,872 --> 01:02:00,872
Mr. Loeb.

1495
01:02:02,310 --> 01:02:05,910
>> is that going to meet, the

1496
01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:09,848
deadline to get stuff into hud?

1497
01:02:09,848 --> 01:02:11,383
>> yes, it does meet the

1498
01:02:11,383 --> 01:02:13,383
deadline, sort of.

1499
01:02:15,656 --> 01:02:16,288
We do not have a drop dead date

1500
01:02:16,288 --> 01:02:17,622
to submit the application.

1501
01:02:17,622 --> 01:02:20,557
our biggest concern is that we

1502
01:02:20,557 --> 01:02:21,863
have been work orange this for

1503
01:02:21,863 --> 01:02:25,463
several months at this time and

1504
01:02:26,398 --> 01:02:27,837
while we all have a place to go

1505
01:02:27,837 --> 01:02:30,501
home to, there are many people

1506
01:02:30,501 --> 01:02:31,334
in corpus christi that do not.

1507
01:02:31,334 --> 01:02:34,934
And there are 90 units that we

1508
01:02:36,107 --> 01:02:37,475
can be work together get online

1509
01:02:37,475 --> 01:02:41,140
and make available for the low

1510
01:02:41,140 --> 01:02:41,344
income families and we are not

1511
01:02:41,344 --> 01:02:43,344
doing that.

1512
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:44,848
So time is important, as much

1513
01:02:44,848 --> 01:02:46,582
as possible.

1514
01:02:46,582 --> 01:02:47,855
>> I probably will not be

1515
01:02:47,855 --> 01:02:49,855
voting in January.

1516
01:02:50,724 --> 01:02:51,488
But in the meantime, just

1517
01:02:51,488 --> 01:02:53,888
because the council cannot,

1518
01:02:54,627 --> 01:02:58,562
does not have it on our agenda

1519
01:02:58,562 --> 01:03:02,162
to have a resolution, does not

1520
01:03:09,571 --> 01:03:09,906
keep us from individually

1521
01:03:09,906 --> 01:03:10,240
commenting!

1522
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,500
Thank you.

1523
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:12,976
>> thank you.

1524
01:03:12,976 --> 01:03:14,942
>> Mr. Ma dina?

1525
01:03:14,942 --> 01:03:15,209
>> I am [Inaudible-heavy

1526
01:03:15,209 --> 01:03:17,209
accent]

1527
01:03:17,477 --> 01:03:18,915
I live at 5413 cane drive here

1528
01:03:18,915 --> 01:03:20,915
in corpus christi.

1529
01:03:22,982 --> 01:03:23,351
We had a problem with a code

1530
01:03:23,351 --> 01:03:25,351
enforcement.

1531
01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:28,354
It is a sad state of affairs,

1532
01:03:28,354 --> 01:03:30,156
really.

1533
01:03:30,156 --> 01:03:31,559
The codes are not enforced.

1534
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:33,159
The gentleman that is enforcing

1535
01:03:33,159 --> 01:03:34,696
the code in my particular area,

1536
01:03:34,696 --> 01:03:36,397
the day before yesterday, I was

1537
01:03:36,397 --> 01:03:40,340
talking to him and my son, and

1538
01:03:40,340 --> 01:03:42,369
he was telling me is there no

1539
01:03:42,369 --> 01:03:44,271
code to address the fences back

1540
01:03:44,271 --> 01:03:44,907
there, when a business butts

1541
01:03:44,907 --> 01:03:46,907
with a residential.

1542
01:03:50,410 --> 01:03:54,100
That is my case, my property.

1543
01:03:55,382 --> 01:03:57,481
Also, is there no code, no book

1544
01:03:57,481 --> 01:03:58,984
that the canopy trees that they

1545
01:03:58,984 --> 01:04:00,754
are required to plant, tell

1546
01:04:00,754 --> 01:04:03,156
them you need 30 feet, the

1547
01:04:03,156 --> 01:04:03,487
trees have to be at least 30

1548
01:04:03,487 --> 01:04:05,487
feet apart.

1549
01:04:06,157 --> 01:04:08,492
The fence has to be at least

1550
01:04:08,492 --> 01:04:09,950
six feet, I know that.

1551
01:04:09,950 --> 01:04:12,950
but this gentleman does not

1552
01:04:12,199 --> 01:04:13,990
know the rules how is he going

1553
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:15,990
to enforce them?

1554
01:04:15,967 --> 01:04:16,234
We have a big problem on cane

1555
01:04:16,234 --> 01:04:18,234
drive.

1556
01:04:18,905 --> 01:04:21,905
They are going continue to

1557
01:04:23,110 --> 01:04:27,110
build in that and they have not

1558
01:04:27,110 --> 01:04:29,411
had any residential houses

1559
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:31,318
because the property was not

1560
01:04:31,318 --> 01:04:32,415
for a sale.

1561
01:04:32,415 --> 01:04:35,352
Two houses from mine, it is at

1562
01:04:35,352 --> 01:04:39,552
least a foot and a half high

1563
01:04:39,924 --> 01:04:40,793
and it has been like that for

1564
01:04:40,793 --> 01:04:41,958
several months.

1565
01:04:41,958 --> 01:04:44,958
Nay do not cut it.

1566
01:04:45,328 --> 01:04:45,762
There are five or -- they do not

1567
01:04:45,762 --> 01:04:47,663
cut it.

1568
01:04:47,663 --> 01:04:48,934
When the trash goes out, nay

1569
01:04:48,934 --> 01:04:52,534
put out both cans, all though

1570
01:04:52,968 --> 01:04:53,203
they are required to only put

1571
01:04:53,203 --> 01:04:53,839
one.

1572
01:04:53,839 --> 01:04:55,839
>> [Captioners transitioning]

1573
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:39,237
>> Mr. Gordy.

1574
01:06:39,237 --> 01:06:41,570
>> I live at 4118 ray drive.

1575
01:06:41,570 --> 01:06:44,472
He's passing out some papers.

1576
01:06:44,472 --> 01:06:47,776
>>> all of you got a letter

1577
01:06:47,776 --> 01:06:51,376
from me talking about the code.

1578
01:06:52,784 --> 01:06:53,416
It needs to be looked at and

1579
01:06:53,416 --> 01:06:57,160
some changes need to be made,

1580
01:06:58,922 --> 01:06:59,557
because the unified developing

1581
01:06:59,557 --> 01:07:00,221
code says one thing, and the

1582
01:07:00,221 --> 01:07:00,621
highway beautification act says

1583
01:07:00,621 --> 01:07:02,621
something else.

1584
01:07:06,829 --> 01:07:07,462
I would just like 2 -- the

1585
01:07:07,462 --> 01:07:08,950
legal find out there come the

1586
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:10,634
state law says one thing and

1587
01:07:10,634 --> 01:07:11,134
the unified developing code

1588
01:07:11,134 --> 01:07:13,134
says something else.

1589
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,200
What you have there on the very

1590
01:07:18,237 --> 01:07:18,838
front is the agreement, and

1591
01:07:18,838 --> 01:07:21,838
eisai agreement come a the

1592
01:07:23,875 --> 01:07:24,210
state attorney says it's not an

1593
01:07:24,210 --> 01:07:24,780
agreement.

1594
01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:25,414
But my impression is, and

1595
01:07:25,414 --> 01:07:26,712
everyone else's, if the city

1596
01:07:26,712 --> 01:07:30,912
says we will do something if we

1597
01:07:32,249 --> 01:07:36,449
can get the money, to me, that

1598
01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:38,924
is an agreement.

1599
01:07:38,924 --> 01:07:39,392
And they will enforce the

1600
01:07:39,392 --> 01:07:41,392
beautification act.

1601
01:07:44,832 --> 01:07:45,633
and they say they will collect

1602
01:07:45,633 --> 01:07:47,633
the sign permit.

1603
01:07:50,302 --> 01:07:50,669
They taught me that in the

1604
01:07:50,669 --> 01:07:51,338
first grade.

1605
01:07:51,338 --> 01:07:54,707
You might want to look at that.

1606
01:07:54,707 --> 01:07:58,307
The second page that you have

1607
01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:07,984
there, the letter you got from

1608
01:08:07,984 --> 01:08:08,551
susan thorpe.

1609
01:08:08,551 --> 01:08:11,551
They said that your local

1610
01:08:12,788 --> 01:08:14,489
government code restricts the

1611
01:08:14,489 --> 01:08:17,489
municipality and they got a

1612
01:08:19,994 --> 01:08:20,630
copy of that on the third page

1613
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:22,666
of the local government code.

1614
01:08:22,666 --> 01:08:23,310
Yes, there are certain things

1615
01:08:23,310 --> 01:08:25,310
you can't do.

1616
01:08:25,170 --> 01:08:25,833
You can charge them for a

1617
01:08:25,833 --> 01:08:28,670
permit, you can't make them pay

1618
01:08:28,670 --> 01:08:29,337
so much per day to put the sign

1619
01:08:29,337 --> 01:08:33,241
there, and you also got a copy

1620
01:08:33,241 --> 01:08:34,876
of the state law and highway

1621
01:08:34,876 --> 01:08:37,276
beautification act, you will

1622
01:08:46,621 --> 01:08:46,986
notice the second part is

1623
01:08:46,986 --> 01:08:48,986
highlighted.

1624
01:08:50,557 --> 01:08:52,957
And, the highway beautification

1625
01:08:53,796 --> 01:08:54,960
act doesn't cover political

1626
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,960
science.

1627
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,468
That doesn't couple cover the

1628
01:09:02,468 --> 01:09:04,468
political science.

1629
01:09:05,241 --> 01:09:08,430
This covers political signs on

1630
01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:08,640
those 14 roadways, not the

1631
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,475
highway beautification act.

1632
01:09:10,475 --> 01:09:13,613
The city staff needs to sort of

1633
01:09:13,613 --> 01:09:17,813
go back to school and do some

1634
01:09:19,751 --> 01:09:23,870
research and learn how to read.

1635
01:09:23,870 --> 01:09:26,870
That's pretty clear how that

1636
01:09:26,623 --> 01:09:29,230
senate bill 446, that covers

1637
01:09:31,867 --> 01:09:32,397
political science.

1638
01:09:32,397 --> 01:09:33,330
And also, the city with

1639
01:09:33,330 --> 01:09:33,665
certified, easy on the third

1640
01:09:33,665 --> 01:09:35,600
page when it was certified.

1641
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,671
And they got certified as the

1642
01:09:37,671 --> 01:09:40,372
only two cities in corpus

1643
01:09:40,372 --> 01:09:42,607
christi that were certified to

1644
01:09:42,607 --> 01:09:43,730
enforce the highway

1645
01:09:43,730 --> 01:09:44,376
beautification act.

1646
01:09:44,376 --> 01:09:46,776
>> thank you Mr. Gordy.

1647
01:09:47,847 --> 01:09:52,470
We finished, but a few -- we

1648
01:09:52,481 --> 01:09:56,810
are going to get a memo

1649
01:09:58,155 --> 01:09:58,789
requests for some of these

1650
01:09:58,789 --> 01:09:59,425
contradict team language that

1651
01:09:59,425 --> 01:10:00,526
has been brought to our

1652
01:10:00,526 --> 01:10:02,526
attention.

1653
01:10:02,626 --> 01:10:03,610
We will get into remission on

1654
01:10:03,610 --> 01:10:05,610
that in writing.

1655
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:10,500
Thank you, Mr. Gordy.

1656
01:10:11,433 --> 01:10:13,433
>> Mr. Montesano.

1657
01:10:17,676 --> 01:10:17,941
>> rocco montesano, 2101 rialto

1658
01:10:17,941 --> 01:10:18,543
drive.

1659
01:10:18,543 --> 01:10:19,108
I'm not going to talk about

1660
01:10:19,108 --> 01:10:19,776
housing, but so many good

1661
01:10:19,776 --> 01:10:21,579
things have gone on in the city

1662
01:10:21,579 --> 01:10:22,411
in the last year.

1663
01:10:22,411 --> 01:10:24,480
I didn't want to end it with

1664
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,480
the bad note.

1665
01:10:28,418 --> 01:10:28,884
Want to thank counsel and staff

1666
01:10:28,884 --> 01:10:30,884
are taking action.

1667
01:10:31,586 --> 01:10:33,891
The lexington problem on north

1668
01:10:33,891 --> 01:10:35,426
beach in relation to water and

1669
01:10:35,426 --> 01:10:39,260
my pipes breaking and also the

1670
01:10:40,699 --> 01:10:40,898
sidewalk on the beach that fell

1671
01:10:40,898 --> 01:10:42,898
in.

1672
01:10:43,231 --> 01:10:43,901
Quite honestly, much faster

1673
01:10:43,901 --> 01:10:46,901
than anticipated, the staff got

1674
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:53,272
on it and contracted it to be

1675
01:10:53,272 --> 01:10:53,908
fixed.

1676
01:10:53,908 --> 01:10:54,575
We went and talked to the guy

1677
01:10:54,575 --> 01:10:58,175
putting the concrete in for the

1678
01:10:59,211 --> 01:10:59,846
city and he agreed if we got

1679
01:10:59,846 --> 01:11:01,113
him to come over to the patio

1680
01:11:01,113 --> 01:11:03,283
to reroute my pipes under the

1681
01:11:03,283 --> 01:11:03,514
patio, we were able to contract

1682
01:11:03,514 --> 01:11:05,453
that.

1683
01:11:05,453 --> 01:11:07,486
But the city stepped up and

1684
01:11:07,486 --> 01:11:10,486
rerouted that water, so don't

1685
01:11:10,524 --> 01:11:11,455
expect to see me back here

1686
01:11:11,455 --> 01:11:12,960
talking about

1687
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,960
broken pipes in lexington, it

1688
01:11:22,299 --> 01:11:22,535
cleaned up the area quite a

1689
01:11:22,535 --> 01:11:23,202
bit.

1690
01:11:23,202 --> 01:11:23,872
But as the year closes I wanted

1691
01:11:23,872 --> 01:11:24,537
to thank the staff and council

1692
01:11:24,537 --> 01:11:25,202
for actually taking some pretty

1693
01:11:25,202 --> 01:11:25,837
good action over there on north

1694
01:11:25,837 --> 01:11:26,403
beach to get lexington up and

1695
01:11:26,403 --> 01:11:28,540
going again and hopefully

1696
01:11:28,540 --> 01:11:28,809
present the problem in the

1697
01:11:28,809 --> 01:11:30,809
future.

1698
01:11:32,445 --> 01:11:32,679
Merry christmas and happy new

1699
01:11:32,679 --> 01:11:33,278
year.

1700
01:11:33,278 --> 01:11:35,678
>> thank you Mr. Montesano.

1701
01:11:45,925 --> 01:11:47,457
anyone else here for public

1702
01:11:47,457 --> 01:11:49,457
comment but.

1703
01:11:54,297 --> 01:11:54,567
>> elena soldotna 4710 tackle

1704
01:11:54,567 --> 01:11:55,798
drive.

1705
01:11:55,798 --> 01:11:56,950
First of all, merry christmas

1706
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:56,966
or happy hanukkah, whichever

1707
01:11:56,966 --> 01:11:57,568
when you celebrate.

1708
01:11:57,568 --> 01:12:01,436
As the year comes to an end and

1709
01:12:01,436 --> 01:12:03,720
we start a new year and a new

1710
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,472
counsel, please take into

1711
01:12:10,510 --> 01:12:10,777
consideration some of the

1712
01:12:10,777 --> 01:12:11,444
things.

1713
01:12:11,444 --> 01:12:12,119
You have done some good things

1714
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:12,780
and I will never argue that you

1715
01:12:12,780 --> 01:12:13,453
haven't, but I want you to keep

1716
01:12:13,453 --> 01:12:13,880
in some of the things that you

1717
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,880
need to remember.

1718
01:12:17,319 --> 01:12:17,917
There are all sorts of rumors

1719
01:12:17,917 --> 01:12:19,790
about bayfront resurfacing.

1720
01:12:19,790 --> 01:12:20,653
I hope that is not true.

1721
01:12:20,653 --> 01:12:23,892
And I want you to make sure

1722
01:12:23,892 --> 01:12:27,492
that you understand that the at-

1723
01:12:28,162 --> 01:12:28,363
large representatives represent

1724
01:12:28,363 --> 01:12:28,997
the

1725
01:12:28,997 --> 01:12:29,598
whole city emma and that you

1726
01:12:29,598 --> 01:12:33,798
keep that in mind as we go

1727
01:12:34,967 --> 01:12:35,638
forward in this year.

1728
01:12:35,638 --> 01:12:36,271
And, you know, that we get away

1729
01:12:36,271 --> 01:12:38,406
from this illegal annexation

1730
01:12:38,406 --> 01:12:38,805
and all the things that go

1731
01:12:38,805 --> 01:12:39,439
along with it.

1732
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,111
We want to make sure that as

1733
01:12:41,111 --> 01:12:45,111
you go into the new year, you

1734
01:12:45,111 --> 01:12:45,714
have a prosperous year.

1735
01:12:45,714 --> 01:12:47,982
And in that prosperity you

1736
01:12:47,982 --> 01:12:49,915
keep the citizens in mind.

1737
01:12:49,915 --> 01:12:52,315
So emma merry christmas.

1738
01:12:55,521 --> 01:12:57,921
>> dairy christmas to you.

1739
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:58,357
Anyone else here for public

1740
01:12:58,357 --> 01:12:58,593
comment?

1741
01:12:58,593 --> 01:13:00,593
Okay.

1742
01:13:08,966 --> 01:13:11,366
It's move into executive

1743
01:13:16,309 --> 01:13:16,840
session.

1744
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,240
>>> before we move into

1745
01:13:19,476 --> 01:13:21,876
executive session, I apologize.

1746
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:24,850
I'm meant to finish our public

1747
01:13:24,850 --> 01:13:26,850
hearing.

1748
01:13:27,954 --> 01:13:31,554
So let's finish up the last

1749
01:13:36,859 --> 01:13:37,193
public hearing of item number

1750
01:13:37,193 --> 01:13:39,193
53 please.

1751
01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:43,290
>>> this is the last public

1752
01:13:43,898 --> 01:13:44,567
hearing item.

1753
01:13:44,567 --> 01:13:46,435
We didn't get to 53, when it is

1754
01:13:46,435 --> 01:13:48,405
to get into public comment.

1755
01:13:48,405 --> 01:13:50,500
>> for the record councilmember

1756
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,500
alan will be abstaining from

1757
01:13:53,575 --> 01:13:57,780
this item pay period mayor and

1758
01:13:57,780 --> 01:13:58,847
council members, julio dimas.

1759
01:13:58,847 --> 01:14:02,320
Item 53 is a request by the

1760
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,320
property owner to rezone land

1761
01:14:05,353 --> 01:14:08,353
at the northwest corner of

1762
01:14:10,590 --> 01:14:13,590
folly and south staples road.

1763
01:14:13,894 --> 01:14:15,999
The owners requesting the

1764
01:14:15,999 --> 01:14:16,329
rezoning to cg two, general

1765
01:14:16,329 --> 01:14:18,329
commercial.

1766
01:14:20,370 --> 01:14:21,202
To allow the construction of

1767
01:14:21,202 --> 01:14:22,704
single-story approximately

1768
01:14:22,704 --> 01:14:24,704
18,400 square-foot restaurant

1769
01:14:25,641 --> 01:14:28,641
and bar with about 7600 square-

1770
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:33,411
foot exterior deck space.

1771
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,249
The rezoning is consistent with

1772
01:14:36,249 --> 01:14:37,415
the future land-use in the

1773
01:14:37,415 --> 01:14:38,988
south side.

1774
01:14:38,988 --> 01:14:39,552
Development plan.

1775
01:14:39,552 --> 01:14:41,823
As such staff recommends

1776
01:14:41,823 --> 01:14:44,550
approval of the rezone.

1777
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:44,390
I'd be happy to answer

1778
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:46,390
questions.

1779
01:14:47,950 --> 01:14:49,193
>> I have a motion to open for

1780
01:14:49,193 --> 01:14:49,594
public comment.

1781
01:14:49,594 --> 01:14:51,594
Any discussion?

1782
01:14:51,630 --> 01:14:53,500
All in favor?

1783
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:53,799
Same time opposed, motion

1784
01:14:53,799 --> 01:14:55,799
carries.

1785
01:15:00,705 --> 01:15:01,172
Anyone from the public like to

1786
01:15:01,172 --> 01:15:03,770
comment on them 53?

1787
01:15:03,770 --> 01:15:04,908
Seeing none, motion closed.

1788
01:15:04,908 --> 01:15:06,712
Motion and second.

1789
01:15:06,712 --> 01:15:08,712
Any discussion?

1790
01:15:11,650 --> 01:15:11,949
All in favor, same sign, motion

1791
01:15:11,949 --> 01:15:12,282
carries.

1792
01:15:12,282 --> 01:15:14,282
Ms. Huerta.

1793
01:15:14,950 --> 01:15:17,950
Pay period or passage of

1794
01:15:22,758 --> 01:15:23,600
ordinance 15 on its first

1795
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:24,630
reading?

1796
01:15:24,630 --> 01:15:25,127
[Roll call]

1797
01:15:25,127 --> 01:15:27,127
The ordinance passes.

1798
01:15:28,497 --> 01:15:29,320
>> incorporated you very much.

1799
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:29,599
Looking forward to the

1800
01:15:29,599 --> 01:15:31,137
construction of this new

1801
01:15:31,137 --> 01:15:33,537
addition to our community.

1802
01:15:36,204 --> 01:15:39,804
Thank you for adding to the

1803
01:15:44,713 --> 01:15:45,382
quality of life.

1804
01:15:45,382 --> 01:15:47,810
>>> h age one executive session

1805
01:15:47,810 --> 01:15:47,748
to consult with attorneys

1806
01:15:47,748 --> 01:15:48,415
concerning legal issues related

1807
01:15:48,415 --> 01:15:48,951
to renovations and prevents to

1808
01:15:48,951 --> 01:15:49,650
the broadway wastewater

1809
01:15:49,650 --> 01:15:52,650
treatment plant and other parts

1810
01:15:53,288 --> 01:15:53,957
of the city sanitary sewer

1811
01:15:53,957 --> 01:15:56,357
collection system, number two,

1812
01:15:59,580 --> 01:16:01,458
executive session to consult

1813
01:16:02,496 --> 01:16:03,330
with attorneys for concerning

1814
01:16:03,330 --> 01:16:03,363
legal issues related to

1815
01:16:03,363 --> 01:16:03,999
annexation.

1816
01:16:03,999 --> 01:16:04,631
Item number three, executive

1817
01:16:04,631 --> 01:16:05,298
session to deliberate police

1818
01:16:05,298 --> 01:16:07,634
and/or value of real property

1819
01:16:07,634 --> 01:16:08,968
including

1820
01:16:08,968 --> 01:16:12,568
but not limited to existing or

1821
01:16:13,607 --> 01:16:16,700
opposed lease agreements with

1822
01:16:17,213 --> 01:16:19,213
signature flight operation,

1823
01:16:19,411 --> 01:16:20,120
atlantic aviation aleppo

1824
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,412
holdings and rectory, --

1825
01:16:24,684 --> 01:16:25,219
property at the corpus christi

1826
01:16:25,219 --> 01:16:25,852
international airport.

1827
01:16:25,852 --> 01:16:28,252
Executive session number four

1828
01:16:30,155 --> 01:16:30,823
today so with attorneys

1829
01:16:30,823 --> 01:16:31,827
regarding the honorable melissa

1830
01:16:31,827 --> 01:16:33,827
munter go

1831
01:16:35,662 --> 01:16:37,330
versus city of this christie.

1832
01:16:37,330 --> 01:16:39,730
Number five, executive session

1833
01:16:44,103 --> 01:16:44,571
with attorneys regarding fire

1834
01:16:44,571 --> 01:16:45,168
elective bargaining

1835
01:16:45,168 --> 01:16:45,836
negotiations between corpus

1836
01:16:45,836 --> 01:16:48,836
christi and the corpus christi