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All the Crystal City Council meeting to order. Let's start with roll call, please.

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Council member Cummings. Here.

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Council member Ideville is absent. Council member Camish. Here.

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Council member Kaiser. Here. Council member Vanessa Rosen. Here.

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Mayor Adam. Here.

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Council member Buduszewski. Here.

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We have a quorum.

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All right, let's rise for a pledge of allegiance.

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The allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.

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And you would be public for which stands one nation under God individual with liberty and justice for all.

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All right.

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We have an agenda before us.

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And we have one adjustment for the temporary on sale.

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The girl license that was missed.

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That's an idea.

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I'm going to 5.2.

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With that modification, I'm looking for a motion to pass that agenda.

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I will make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

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All right, second.

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I'd like to second that.

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All members in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed, aye.

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Motion carries.

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We do have a couple of proclamations today.

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I'll read those into the record for those proclamations.

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First one is National Police Week for May 12th to the 18th, 2024.

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Whereas the week of May 12th to the 18th, 2024 is National Police Week.

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week in the United States, whereas there are over 800,000 law enforcement officers serving

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in communities across the United States, including the dedicated members of the Crystal

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Police Department, whereas over 56,000 assaults against law enforcement officers are

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reported each year, resulting in over 17,000 injuries, whereas since the first record

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It reported death in 1786, the total of 24,067 law enforcement officers in the United States

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have made the ultimate sacrifice and died in the line of duty, including 305 Minnesota

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law enforcement officers.

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Whereas the name of these dedicated police servants are engraved on the walls of the National

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enforcement memorial in Washington, DC.

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Whereas 282 new names of fallen heroes, including two officers from Minnesota, are being added

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to the national law enforcement memorial this spring, including 118 line of duty deaths in

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2023 and 164 who have died previous years, but whose stories of sacrifice have been lost

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to history until now.

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Whereas May 15th is designated peace officer Memorial Day in honor of all fallen officers

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and their families, and the U.S. flag should be flown at half-staff.

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Now, therefore, I, Jim Adams, Mayor of the City of Crystal, do hereby recognize and promote

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May 12th through the 18th 2024 as National Police Week in the City of Crystal, and call upon

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the people of Crystal to observe this week in honor of the men in the women who served diligently

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and professionally to keep the residents of the city of Crystal safe.

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Data this 7th day of May 2024.

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The second proclamation is for public works week,

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and that's going to be May 19th to the 25th, 2024,

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whereas the public infrastructure of the city of Crystal is an integral part of our everyday lives.

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And whereas the health, safety, comfort of the residents, visitors, businesses,

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greatly depend on the public infrastructure and services.

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And, whereas support from the encouraging, from an encouraging understanding and

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informed citizenry, is vital to the enforcement operation of public infrastructure

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system and programs including transportation, building facilities, park and forestry,

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water supply, and treatment centers, who are in service water management.

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And, whereas Crystal's Public Works Department is committed to the mission of quality

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design, construction, operation and maintenance of the City Public Infrastructure, and we're

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as continued community support and resources are essential for the Public Works Department

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to carry out its mission, and therefore, I, Jim Adams, Mayor of the City of Chris

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to do here by proclaim May 19 through the 25th, 2024, as public works week in the City of

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Crystal and Recognize every day commitment made by the Public Works Department to the

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these health safety comfort in overall quality of life.

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They did this 7th day of May 2024.

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That is our proclamations of the day.

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Next we do have an appearance. We have our head up in county commissioner

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John Jeff Lundy here to address the public and the council. Please support. It will give us an update

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for the city of Bristol.

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Welcome, Jeff. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and council members.

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I don't know if there's a presentation up.

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I thought it was going to give you good news and said.

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I want to have a presentation, but thanks to Dilson work for your city manager, how many of you?

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I don't know.

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I don't know how many pages I think it's seven or eight.

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Oh, that's so much better than 73.

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I will try to be entertaining, be it fast, if I may.

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So, Joe Condy and I'm a Commissioner of Representing Broken Park Book and Center for Oceo, Crystal

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New Hope in Robinsdale.

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And so, just here, to kind of give an update, answer some questions, and then, you know, just do everything I can.

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to make sure that what you need that the county is providing.

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So I'll skip the first slide, so I'm already moving faster.

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Second slide, I just want to tell you what things I'm sharing.

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So at the county, I tend to be the person who chairs the criminal justice issues.

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So last safety in justice, which is the Equimals, our Public Safety Committee.

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Also chair, the criminal justice court and committee, which is all the different aspects.

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Please, prosecutors, defenders, judges, corrections, probation,

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in cities, mayors, all we have what 20, 8 of us, we get together,

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quarterly and talk about systemic issues that we're trying to do.

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Example would be last summer where the court corrections and prosecutors

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got together so that when kids fled from a police officer,

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he became an automatic hold.

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So before it was, you have to add a point,

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whether you hold a kid in the juvenile detention center.

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That became an automatic hold because of the,

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what was happening is the escalating behavior.

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take it, let out, and go right back out, and so what we start to do is interrupt that.

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So that's an example of when the system kind of comes together, hopefully.

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That's the thing you just working on and see the blue line, and then also this last year I

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chaired a task force for this Minnesota State legislature on Youth Interventions, and

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cover these slides. Sorry, it's okay. I'll just keep going. I'll probably be faster that way.

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I'll just talk about youth interventions, first is just really looking at issues that challenges

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that we face in Minnesota that when kids are determined that they need mental health

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treatment as part of their accountability. Again, we don't determine who's accountable,

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how it's accountable, but when they are going somewhere, I'll just say it this way. If you

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have Jeff, they have her brother Jeremy, right? We both suffer from some trauma that happened

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when you read younger, I take a swing at Tajik.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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And he doesn't press charges.

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They find that I need mental health treatment

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that I have trauma that was triggered by something

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in my childhood.

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And I go into a system called DHS, right?

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Health news services.

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So our brother takes a swing at your city attorney.

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City attorney, not quite as forgiving.

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He presses charges.

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My brother goes into the correction site, DOC.

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It's the same problem, same kids, same issues, same swings, different paths, and they go different

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directions.

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And in most states, they've taken up with those paths together to say the fact my brother

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and I took a swing and somebody, we did the same thing, but I didn't have to charge this

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press against me.

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Now, in Minnesota, we have another thing, which is the fact that maybe later on I'm getting

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treatment, I'm doing better, but I take a swing at Prince Cosmar Kaiser.

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She pressed this charges. I get moved out of my where I'm at into the corrections. So this kind of balancing back and forth has kids going there.

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And so what happens with the intervention task force looked at was all those different aspects.

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And many things like, you know, we talk about you've heard people say we don't have a place to put these people.

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The fact is, in Minnesota, third of the beds in the state that should be available for mental health treatment are not staffed.

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And so it's not, we don't have a staff to have them.

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And so kids, language, kids go places.

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We heard testimony from a girl who was

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had lived experience.

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She, as she said, I didn't feel accountability

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until I got sent away.

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So that's a problem.

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But when she started to make progress, the system

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is like an escalator.

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It moves in through the system, grabs them off.

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So maybe if my radams is my mentor, and he's,

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I'm making a good progress.

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Oops, six months is up.

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I moved to customer comments, right?

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And so now I've got to start all over.

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And so the system is very disjointed,

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and it doesn't work well.

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So here's the bad news.

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1990, they had a similar task force.

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They came back with a pretty...

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We close the same report. We delivered and you can figure. If we 25 years later, we're doing the same thing, that meant the state didn't do things. So it's our hope to do that because we know if we can do better job. And when kids have accountability delivered that they don't get back out and go right back the same thing. Because if my brother and I, that trauma is not fixed and we get released, let's see how it's going to go out and take a note of the swing and somebody pretty high. Because I haven't fixed anything and neither of us. So that's what the goal was, was to look at that. There's lots of things that we need as a state.

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to do, and only the state legislature can enact those, not the cities, not the counties, it

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is a legislature. So I heard questions, you guys are getting on my side alive. I've texted

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a few of you and some of you that were blessed that I don't have your cell phone, count your

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blessings. Sorry, we're Adams. That's remember that we're Hinnabakani, we did something

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In 2021, we did violence against grants, which were community-based grants.

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We used our company to put $5 million dollars out on the street to help fund violence

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prevention.

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Then, with to five groups, it was very targeted, it was after, you know, the unrest, you

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had the, all the shutdowns, you had people, I think lots of things that were really affecting

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And you also had George Floyd being killed and I think that caused a lot of people to question

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lots of things.

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And so we put $5 million on the street, we got it out there fast.

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That's 2021, 2022, the county created a department called Safe Communities to look horizontal across the county.

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Every day, the county is working with 3,500 youth.

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Could be food support, rental support, could be mental health, it could be corrections.

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Actually, 99% of the kids in our county are not on the news.

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Everybody thinks they see kids, they see people in the news, it's not the case.

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So we've created that department of course,

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on only 2022.

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We also created something called Anti-Hate Initiative,

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which is to look at hate.

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And I think right now, you can look at some of our campuses

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and you've got to fulfill that,

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where people are saying a lot of things

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that make people feel unsafe.

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2023, the county took those vines for vision grants.

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Now we fund them with county taxes,

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which I assure is a city you guys

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love to spend other people's money,

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prefer we move from spending no people's money

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to spending county money.

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So that meant even more of a commitment because it's always easier.

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This time, instead of having five groups,

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I think it was 46 to 48 groups got money all across the county.

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And then the other 50 that didn't get money,

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we kept in a cohort.

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So we didn't just say, sorry, you don't get any money.

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We actually are keeping working with them,

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try to help them grow as nonprofits,

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churches, whatever they are.

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So we've got a roster of close to 100 organizations

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that are really focused on community-led safety and use.

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So that's 2023, 2024, and this is the long answer to Council of Regents, he's comment.

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We started this safe community summit, which will be in May 16th through the 18th.

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Everybody here is invited, City of Crystal, Police staff, City staff, and Elected, it will

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be at the Brooklyn Park, Marriott, and Minneapolis Marriott North West, like this,

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It'll be 16 through the 18th and 16th and 17th.

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Our two days of sessions really geared toward helping

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pull us together.

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Every city and school district in the counties

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has been invited.

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I think we've hit the halfway point.

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It's a who's coming.

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And I know as suburban agencies, you guys have other jobs.

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And so we know people that will get their best they can.

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So I've got some text messages, I'll sense emails.

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Or if you're like, I can go for an afternoon, sign up.

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If you can go to one session, sign up.

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Day one is a little heavier on the county.

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About what we're trying to do.

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Day two is a partnership with a group called Cities United.

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So Cities United.org.

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And I'll get your presentations.

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You guys have that.

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But if you want to check it out, they are the thing that will

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Compark use when I was mayor to lower youth calls for service by 60%.

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We focused quite heavily on the work.

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And what they do is they allow a city to do a slot.

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strength weakness, opportunity threat, self analysis, take that, compare that to national best practices,

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across I think it's 14 or 16 categories, and then allow you to come up with what they call roadmap

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or plan, because often here people say, I want to do something, I don't know where to start,

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I need money, I tell you what, money is not, it's the last thing it comes, you have a plan, money in my

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book is always followed, good plans. And so this allows a city to come up with your plan, it's not the

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is planned. It can be crystals, it can be broken-park. Whatever city wants to do it, it's

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your plan, your community, your efforts, and everything is geared toward that. And so this

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is free. I would encourage you if you have interest. I know a couple of you have signed up

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and you can make it even if it's real a little bit. If you're not sure if you can make it, please sign

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We'll get follow-up information, but the goal last summer I went to 23 public safety meetings across the county because I'm letting for punishment, right?

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Lots of finger pointing, lots of complaining, lots of unhappiness, right?

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And I cannot think of a single thing out of all those means, I came out of any of those means, because we're all focused on complaining. All of us, myself included, right?

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And so this summer we're trying to set the stage about what can we do together, we can do it better if we do it together.

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And so this summit, if you crystal staff,

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at least, can come and start to hear ideas.

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The second day, that Friday, if you only have one day,

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you can go, we'll have national speakers being coming in

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to talk about things that they've done.

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You're going to hear some cities talk about how they've failed

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at every possible way to do things to they found the right way.

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And the idea is really to say that if you're not sure no one else is

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and to really kind of find those tools.

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And so that organization is available free of charge.

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The last day is there's a boot camp which is if the city crystal or whatever city says we want to go into this planning part.

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It'll be a boot camp that we're paying for the technical systems to be available for the city to start that plan.

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And again, up to you guys.

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I mean you can come get ideas.

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You can come and just say hey we're going to browse a little bit just a little bit for the most part.

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It's okay.

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The last thing I'll say, so I'm no need for the presentation, so this summer we're leaning

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into municipal consent.

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So for every city here, you know, Crystal, for Compar, Robin still Minneapolis, I'll

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have the opportunity to give or not give a municipal consent or in some cases say we're

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not going to give an answer, but these are conditions.

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I would expect, you know, August timeframe, they'll be the met council in the Hennep

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County have to kick it off by announcing the minutes for consent process.

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Hand up the county as forgiveness for consent to see a note, so we go through the same process.

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When that moment's kicks off, there will be roughly a 45 day period where cities have to have at least one public hearing.

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You can have multiple and that's not opportunity to gather feedback.

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At the end of that 45 day session, there will be within 30 days, there has to be a vote.

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And that's up to yours on the minutes of consent.

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And so I think you'll see the summer there'll be a number of lively meetings that I tend to like the host, where people can get together and ask questions, and people ask direct questions, fun questions, not fun questions.

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I'll make sure that any crystal that the entire council is aware of it so if you want to combine great, you know, at your choice.

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So we'll make those available as well.

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And then the last thing and this is one of the slides is and you can see it when I send it out is, if you see a map, it's actually,

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I don't know if it's a good map because what the message is bad was you've you see a heat map of all the transit

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You'll see the circle, which is my district that has

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One heat map it's off the circle symbol consider

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Empty pretty much that's transit in our district if you took that circle and you put over people in poverty

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You find out they land up pretty dang pretty good

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Then if you had another one which is demographics lines are pretty good as well

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You'd almost say if one was sarcastic like me that it sure looks like it was planned.

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I don't have transit. I have all the people who are poor and I have the people who

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different demographics than historically Minnesota. And so you look at that. You really see

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this is why the county board believes like rail is one of those solutions. He said the solution

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of the only solution. No. But from my aspect of when you see that map and you'll see it,

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the circle in there. It drives a lot of things. And so I will make myself

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we will follow the summer answer questions. I will never tell you how to

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vote. I would just provide every piece of information I can and I know how

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you see take feedback on things that you want to see. If it comes, I need this and

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so I'll do that absolutely best to receive that and so with that I'll stop

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having no slides. So I'm going to go back as fast as I could do it.

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So the presentation that you had just said is that the one

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gets back in the Senate, hopefully I didn't see him run, so that's all I had

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and I'm available up to your review.

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All right, questions for Jeff, before we let him go?

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I think he answered my, because I was talking about the summit,

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the

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Yeah, I plan on being there on the 17th, so I signed up today, but yeah, I'm looking forward to see what that's all about participating, so.

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Yeah, and something we have opened it up a little bit as we got closer.

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So if you have community members, maybe it's a key nonprofit or a church that you think would be good in that situation.

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port in the link. They can sign up. We have over, actually. We heard spots.

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That was 200 over full. So we have room by design and there's a virtual option too. You just won't be able to see break out session.

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But I love to have you and if you can go and get there for one event, please sign up. I'll put it that way. Anyone else?

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What's happening with the closure of her?

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It closed down last week.

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No.

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Okay, thank you.

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Right with no.

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If it is, I would say, a volume of council members.

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Conspiracy would know the first.

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So right now, that plan that we laid out when I was here before, we talked about all the steps that need to be done.

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And so right now, we're waiting for the legislators to start doing their work,

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which is there are some things that they have to do.

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So the herk is not going to get shot down until we have an ability to do a lot of things.

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and we need to legislate our act.

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So we've talked about producer responsible packaging,

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we've talked about other things.

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So as of right now, until we get the legislative act on that,

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and there was score funding, there was manufacturers,

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responsibilities for packaging.

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Excuse your question, we're continuing to work forward on that.

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I do think that we have this conversation,

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there will be a plan to develop the summer

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to talk about organics recycling.

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I know you guys have talked about it,

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but education, helping people be more aware

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rather than just discovering in their bill that they're getting charged.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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I got some comments on light rail.

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Obviously you have a pretty good idea of how I feel about a lot of that.

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You know, we came into this new alignment with a extreme amount of or lack of trust.

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And through this process of the last year and a half or however long it's been since we've got

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new alignment, or towards that.

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The trust hasn't been restored.

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A lot of things we've asked for have been ignored.

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Or a cursory, OK, here you go, without the proper background.

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So we've been responding with letters to the project office.

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I think you've seen the letters

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to not getting responses.

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When it comes to municipal consent, we've

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a window about this much, maybe it's a month, maybe it's two, I'm not sure, but there's a lot

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of information that the project office has said, well, you need to be engaged, and then

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when we engage, they say, no, not until June, you know, and it's just like, okay, which way

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is it?

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So the frustration is getting high, and the questions I've asked at the CMC meeting, which,

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of course, you were at, just don't get answered, they just don't get answered.

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So, we're going to get those answers supposedly, and I want to refer to our metrics of the

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needs for transit.

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You remember that meeting?

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We're not going to get those still June's end of June as I think that was when it is.

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And to be able to respond to that, plus all the things that we've asked 10 up in county

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with road turnbacks and all the things to make things work around that.

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We're just in a place where it's becoming frustrating.

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We're going to CMC meeting, and now it's going to be the city's opportunity to say what our point of views are.

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Well, we've done that.

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We've sent the letters.

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We've sent the responses.

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And now we're going to do that in public.

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I would really love to see how to have been county talk a little bit more specifically about what their concerns are.

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Because the way it's setting up is the city's come Thursday,

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are going to be, you know, carrying all the weight.

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It's been a one-size-fits-all for every single city.

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I think we have an agreement.

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It was amazing to see the agreement between the blue line coalition,

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the anti-displacement group, Minneapolis, and us.

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And that agreement was the lack of trust.

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That didn't feel good.

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And that's where we are going, and as we get there in just a few months,

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we're going

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to resolve all of that in a few months.

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I'm not sure how that's going to happen.

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So I want you to know that I have real big concerns of getting that done by August.

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I, you know, other people have asked for extensions.

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And I don't have faith that it's going to be accomplished.

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So do what you can to step up in terms of responsiveness, responding to our letters.

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Some of the things you have come through and had the little hanging fruit has been accomplished,

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I think, already.

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But there's an awful lot that doesn't fit a transit.

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Program. And you also know my biggest frustration. We don't have transit in crystal. And you talked about that layover, that map layover. We're no different.

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And if the metric is such that we're looking for people who are dependent on transit inside a crystal, we're not going to find them. Because they don't move here, because there's no transit. So I'm going to be very curious to see what those metrics are.

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And if they're going to be more prone towards the development project or more towards the transit product product product.

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We have a highway.

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We can put a bus on it.

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It doesn't have to be BRT. It doesn't have to be light rail.

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It just needs to be transit.

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And that can be done with a bus and a driver.

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We don't need a designated lane.

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Traffic is flowing.

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Are we going to get serious about transit or not?

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So those are my concerns. Those are the things that I feel like are not being heard. Unfortunately, you'll have to hear it again Thursday.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll just accept that.

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I think the one thing that I've talked to the city about is just create a list and start not going to knock it off.

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And then if there's things that you're saying here's, here's 11 things and it might grow as people are like,

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I haven't got one add. We did that when I did IT projects. It was just not

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called the things put it down and full view so that everybody has that.

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Some answers might be the no. That's fine. I always think it's sometimes the best answer

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because it didn't move on or you don't move on. I think that we can start to knock those out.

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I will do this. I will work with staff to come up with that thing that you get a view of

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All of you, that it's in full view, I don't,

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it can be in the public view, it doesn't matter me,

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to really lay those out and if there's other things identified.

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But I think that how do you trust,

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it's my knocking out small steps.

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So I will commit to walking through that process.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for taking the time to come see us, to share with that.

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I know you go to, you've got a lot on your plate.

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So thank you for your work.

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Thank you, thank you for your time.

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And if anybody has questions about the safety

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communities, or if you have other people that might be interested in community, always text me.

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I've got that link that I forward you to forward it down to others.

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So thank you for your time.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Next on the agenda is our consent agenda.

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The council will consider the falling items which are non-controversial in nature.

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We'll do that in a single motion.

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First item is the approval of the minutes from the falling meetings.

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It's the City Council work session on April 11, 2024.

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It's also the Council meeting on April 16th and the work session from that same date.

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Approval of the list of license applications submitted by the City Clerk to the City Council.

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That list is on file in your office.

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And then adoption of a resolution of accepting donations and adoption of a resolution.

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Approving the participation of an open county housing and redevelopment authority in the affordable housing project.

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I would like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for a second.

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Go ahead, David.

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I will second that.

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Members in favour please say aye.

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Opposed in aye.

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Motion carries.

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Open form.

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All right.

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So just a reminder to the public.

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Open form is a time where you can address the council.

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We allow three minutes for each topic.

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10 minutes, or I'm sorry, each person, 10 minutes for each topic.

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And it's just an opportunity to kind of express what you want to express.

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Public hears you, council hears you, staff hears you.

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So that's what this is about.

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So first person is John Lindholm.

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Please step forward to the podium there.

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Stage your name.

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Address.

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Make sure that you're just the mic if you need to be.

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If you're...

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Oh, it looks good.

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I can hear you.

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Okay.

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John Lindholm.

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Eight, one, one, seven, thirty, second Avenue North.

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It's in the Wenecke Hills area.

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I just have a concern with my some pump box that the city put out

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in the 90s when they did curb and gutter everywhere.

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This started back in September.

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I noticed the lid was starting to come off.

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It's below grade.

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Once I took the lid off it, I noticed the box was crushing.

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I started cutting the roots out around it.

456
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into the tree-five feet from it. I finally said, well, what should I do? I call the

457
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:59,970
city. They decided public works was responsible. Well, this has been going...

458
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:14,940
And I still got nothing accomplished. I know Ben is a person I've been in contact with, with public works, and he started out having to do his managers work, his work, or somebody left right about then.

459
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:26,380
He didn't finally come out and take pictures of it. When I really was asking for, it was just an extension for it. So I could bring it up to grade and put a cover back on it.

460
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,340
And I've just been getting it run around.

461
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,280
I talk to him, he promises to order something,

462
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,620
he says the order of something, then he says,

463
00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:36,880
then two months ago, by I call him again,

464
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,720
what's going on?

465
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080
Well, they don't have that, but I found another one.

466
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Two months ago, by I call him again.

467
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
Well, I found a new play, two weeks, well,

468
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,960
this has been two months.

469
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,260
So I just help me.

470
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:51,160
I don't know what to do.

471
00:30:51,220 --> 00:30:53,580
I do have photos of it, but I mean,

472
00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:58,660
It's just, it's a mess and I don't, he didn't have an answer for me as to who put the tree there.

473
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,580
I didn't, I've been there 22 years.

474
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,840
But it's all within that 12 foot.

475
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,680
So, that project was done before you, but...

476
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Yes.

477
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:08,840
Just before.

478
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,560
Yeah. Probably the homeowner at that time.

479
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,100
So, I just need help on how am I going to get this, you know.

480
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Okay.

481
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,080
I think what we'll do is we'll put you on the constituent issue of update

482
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,380
And then we'll make sure that the council gets updated as to what the status is of your project.

483
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Okay.

484
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:27,600
Adam will make sure that...

485
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,240
I'll follow up on it.

486
00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:28,900
Okay follow up.

487
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,740
We've got the contact.

488
00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:34,760
I have photos on digital, if I need to email that to anybody.

489
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,240
I'll...

490
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,820
We have your contact information.

491
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,360
Let's speak with that tomorrow.

492
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:41,900
Okay.

493
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:42,660
All right.

494
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:43,900
I appreciate it.

495
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,700
Thanks for hearing me out.

496
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:46,060
Yeah.

497
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Anybody else wishing to speak to?

498
00:31:53,040 --> 00:32:01,060
open forum. See no one approach. We will close open forum and move on to the regular agenda.

499
00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:07,780
The regular agenda starts with the disbursements of $25,000 a greater. It's another list.

500
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:23,020
So here we go. I'll read those into the record waste management, each RG for the March

501
00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:33,160
$7,880, a little value joint water commission for March water charges, $155,945.

502
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,720
I met council for wastewater services for May, $143,220.

503
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,040
dollars.

504
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,580
Try State Bobcat Inc for Toolcat and Attachments, 93,238 dollars.

505
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:55,620
Waste management for March, Work and Center in New Hope, recycling, 51,731 dollars.

506
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,600
West Metra Fire Rescue District for April contributions to the West Metra Fire Rescue District,

507
00:33:01,740 --> 00:33:03,660
136,218 dollars.

508
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:14,580
Gold and Valley Joint Water Commission for the February billing correction, $53,315.

509
00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:21,480
I arrest electronic payments for the Federal and FICA withholding taxes for $4,224 for paid.

510
00:33:21,740 --> 00:33:22,640
That's the pay date.

511
00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:29,860
68,679 dollars, Minnesota para for the Employee City Required Contributions for the same

512
00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:42,500
$7,284 total dispersements of $25,000 or greater is $81 or $881,997.33 cents.

513
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,540
Question from the council on any of these items.

514
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,020
Just curious on all the recycling.

515
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,120
What's the city of Brooklyn Park?

516
00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:55,640
And then we have the cities of Brooklyn Center in New Hope.

517
00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:57,820
What is that?

518
00:33:57,820 --> 00:34:07,460
So under the HRG, Brooklyn Center, New Hope, and Christopher's three communes that are the members of the HRG.

519
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:15,180
The city of Brooklyn Park, the staff member, it's actually an employee at the city of Brooklyn Park, is the director of the HRG.

520
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,980
And so that we pay the administrative fee to the city of Brooklyn Park directly.

521
00:34:20,980 --> 00:34:23,820
The city also pays for the Brooklyn Center

522
00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:27,280
new hope, recycling charters, and then we

523
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
invoiced them, so we get that data act.

524
00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:31,000
The portion.

525
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:34,230
Is that clarify?

526
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:38,450
Is it that any

527
00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:42,350
other questions?

528
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,960
All right, looking for a motion.

529
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,500
Go ahead, trees.

530
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,940
I'll make a motion to approve the expenditures over 25,000.

531
00:34:57,980 --> 00:34:59,160
All right, looking for a second, trees.

532
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,960
I was...

533
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,740
Second, that. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.

534
00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:20,960
Next item is the council will consider civil penalties violation of a liquor license regulations by

535
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Okay.

536
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,700
Cleaver-licker, doing business as a Cleaver-licker,

537
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:28,840
loaker-licker, loaker, loaker that, 51, 20, 56th Avenue north.

538
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:35,780
We will start with our city clerk,

539
00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:39,300
Cricy's series to address the council on this issue.

540
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:40,480
Thank you, Ms. Mayor.

541
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,720
Good evening, here in council.

542
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,260
Actually, the next five agenda items are related to

543
00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:46,400
liquor license violations.

544
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,140
These businesses did not pass the alcohol compliance

545
00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:55,360
checks that were conducted by the police department in the fall of 2023. The first of

546
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:03,220
which is clever liquor, located at 51-2856th Avenue North. The employee of the business

547
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:08,400
has pleaded guilty in court to the offense. Notice of the violation and tonight's meeting

548
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:20,120
was sent to the licensee on April 26. This is considered a second violation for this

549
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,980
Mr. Sanchez, the owner of the business, is here tonight to address the council.

550
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:28,720
Yes.

551
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,360
To address the council.

552
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,320
Consistent with the civil penalties scheduled adopted by the Council, staff recommends

553
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,260
a $1,500 fine and three-day license suspension.

554
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:40,600
All right.

555
00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,940
Are there any questions from the council for Chrissy on this item?

556
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:50,740
Seeing none.

557
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:53,060
What was the first violation?

558
00:36:53,060 --> 00:36:56,080
You last year.

559
00:36:56,620 --> 00:37:00,800
Councilmember Kaiser, the violation date was December 8th of 2021.

560
00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:06,900
Thank you, Theresa.

561
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:16,840
On the first violation, do you know was it full penalties that they were charged or what were they cited by the city?

562
00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:22,940
Councilmember Camus, my record show that it was a $750 fine in no license suspension.

563
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:26,420
Thank you.

564
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:29,020
All right,

565
00:37:32,110 --> 00:37:37,650
all right now messed up forward the podium. Please give us your name, and

566
00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:46,730
Hello, my name is clever. I don't know. I just want to make the comments, you know, I work with this story. Okay, hold on a second

567
00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:54,530
Just real quickly you have you have the opportunity to have a hearing or wondering if you're going to wave that in the

568
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:57,210
The decision here or

569
00:37:57,210 --> 00:37:59,530
No, I mean, we're guilty, so I'm not done last.

570
00:37:59,870 --> 00:38:00,910
OK, so no here.

571
00:38:01,250 --> 00:38:02,210
All right.

572
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:03,130
Go ahead, you have comments.

573
00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:04,190
No, they only come.

574
00:38:04,610 --> 00:38:07,590
It was my son who was calling for like two hours a day.

575
00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:11,730
But he did take the class for the check-in IDs

576
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:13,030
with the serial crystal.

577
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:16,370
I don't know what he was a little busy that day.

578
00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:17,230
And I'm making excuses.

579
00:38:18,530 --> 00:38:19,630
But it's copying what happened.

580
00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:25,410
That was, did you say your son?

581
00:38:25,950 --> 00:38:27,310
The other my son, my son works with me.

582
00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:27,610
OK.

583
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:34,230
Who did the first liquor violation?

584
00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:40,450
It was an employee that, a lot of time ago, was a no word without the more.

585
00:38:46,890 --> 00:38:48,010
Any questions?

586
00:38:57,940 --> 00:39:00,740
So, could you change your practices?

587
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,780
This doesn't happen again.

588
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:04,400
How are you addressing that?

589
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,200
We did take the classes and everything.

590
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:09,240
I wanted to say that I want to make an excuse.

591
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,740
I think it was a pressure that he was working by himself.

592
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:14,200
And then the moment there was a little busy.

593
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,100
And I think that's what it was.

594
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:19,960
He paid a fine to work with the court and everything.

595
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,360
It's just not as used, but it was very much the pressure

596
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,020
of the busy time it was in the moment.

597
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,860
Even we talk with the police officer and everything.

598
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,620
And they were there, you know, when the happened.

599
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:34,020
And they said, yeah, it wasn't a little busy.

600
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,860
I think it was a comment or something

601
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:40,780
in the, with the police officer, it was a little busy.

602
00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:41,900
But that's the only excuse.

603
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
So have other members of you staff taken the class, too?

604
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,160
No, nobody.

605
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,280
I mean, I said that before, too.

606
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:51,580
I bought them for like 10 years.

607
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,940
So I did take some classes with my previous jobs.

608
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,800
I used to work with.

609
00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:58,700
So I know how to handle that stuff.

610
00:39:58,860 --> 00:39:59,040
OK.

611
00:39:59,220 --> 00:39:59,780
I was just myself.

612
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,620
She is 19, 19 years old, he helped me out. I think it was a pressure.

613
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,020
You have any technology that's helping

614
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:16,080
your cashiers? It is, we'll look forward, but I work over there myself and I feel really confident

615
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:24,080
and I won't do that and it's kind of very spending and it's kind of hard to be in the business right now with all

616
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,760
of competitions around, you know, and I work myself

617
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,240
to be able to keep it open for business.

618
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,120
You understand?

619
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:35,560
All right.

620
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,760
I have a question.

621
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,460
Yeah, go ahead.

622
00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:42,060
This says here in the report that your son looked at the ID

623
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,620
and then proceeded to go ahead with the sale.

624
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:50,040
So my understanding is that there's

625
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,540
a difference in the ID between someone who's under age,

626
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,860
and someone who's of age, that's correct.

627
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:56,720
That's correct.

628
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:00,720
And so, how long has your son been working in your store?

629
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,780
He was in, by the way, like, year-to-half since then, year-and-a-half, and he, and you said

630
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:11,900
that you took the training through the city here, was he part of that training?

631
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Yes.

632
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,580
It was previous to the habit.

633
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,320
The training was previous to when he started working in the store.

634
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,280
Okay.

635
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:27,700
So he was not, he didn't go through the city's training at that, when you went through the training.

636
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:28,340
Is that correct?

637
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:34,940
No, no, he didn't, he did before to happen, it was like three months ago to happen, he did that, yeah.

638
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:42,340
And so I mean, do you have anything in the store to help your employees determine?

639
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,080
Yes, yes, we have the date in that, like a clock,

640
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,200
from date and wouldn't use multiple cell and told that date.

641
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:52,460
What about the actual how the ID looks itself?

642
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,420
Because it's different.

643
00:41:53,740 --> 00:41:55,640
How long we did to write the counter?

644
00:41:56,420 --> 00:41:58,020
It's write the counter, like I said.

645
00:41:58,460 --> 00:41:59,440
I don't know how much time I can.

646
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,100
Because you can see how close this is.

647
00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:07,600
I mean, you should have seen that this person was underage.

648
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,820
But he went ahead with the purchase anyway.

649
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,900
So pretty much he's bypassing.

650
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:22,960
I mean, the ID part is just more or less the data I try to understand that you're trying

651
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,400
to help them with these visual things, too, but the state has made the IDs so that it's

652
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,000
obvious that this person is not eligible to be purchasing alcohol in this in your establishment.

653
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,220
So, you're some asking for ID and just basically going ahead with the sale is bypassing a very important

654
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:45,740
step in this process and we're asking you to help us with this. That's what's

655
00:42:45,740 --> 00:42:49,380
fully of you. Don't you comment whether there's a lot of people with the

656
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:55,320
ID, vertical? I think they are really 21 with the dates, you know, because they

657
00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:01,140
have to go to the DMB to get a different ID. They should be getting a new ID. Yes,

658
00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:03,940
they should be, you should. Yeah, you should be turning that business

659
00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:07,060
It's a waste or, you know, that would help you.

660
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:09,860
You know, you would benefit from that, so.

661
00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:11,180
All right.

662
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Any other questions?

663
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,000
All right.

664
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:16,120
Thank you for your comments.

665
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,500
Thank you.

666
00:43:23,810 --> 00:43:24,110
All right.

667
00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:27,850
So you have any further questions, council.

668
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:29,850
I'm staff on this side of.

669
00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:33,300
Seeing none.

670
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,860
I would entertain a motion or discussion.

671
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:39,540
Or you want to motion first, then discussion?

672
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,820
Either way.

673
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:41,940
Anybody have any discussion?

674
00:43:43,180 --> 00:43:45,400
I feel like we should discuss first because I feel like

675
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,520
it's been in flux about how we want to do this.

676
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:49,360
I can also start.

677
00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:54,000
I feel like just handing down exactly what's written.

678
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:58,960
And I think we should incentivize people to come to the meetings.

679
00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:05,920
And when we do that, we can knock down a fine or the days in that way.

680
00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,300
Unless there's other circumstances where it's really a religious or

681
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:12,620
I don't feel like they sufficiently answered her questions, but that's just where I come from.

682
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,960
I think knocking a little bit down when people come and talk and we feel satisfied with

683
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,640
what they talk about.

684
00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:20,320
So that's just where I come from this and I know we have a different viewpoint, so they

685
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,320
should need to see where people are at with that.

686
00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:26,070
So what's your proposal?

687
00:44:27,970 --> 00:44:35,790
So, when you said, Mac, it's a big amount, or, you know, I would say, that was an

688
00:44:35,790 --> 00:44:41,770
dollar fine, and I guess we don't have a specific number of days, but it would be, you

689
00:44:41,770 --> 00:44:44,830
say it's three days, if you say two or something like that.

690
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:47,450
So I'll make some comments.

691
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:50,710
Generally when it comes to a third violation,

692
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:54,530
whether they show up or not, I go maximum.

693
00:44:55,570 --> 00:44:58,630
We had been doing that since there haven't been a lot of cases,

694
00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:59,710
but I've been doing that since.

695
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,480
So 12 years.

696
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:15,700
Usually, I err on the side of, I don't want to close down a business. And I usually, if there's any grace, I give the grace in the area of closure.

697
00:45:17,980 --> 00:45:27,880
However, some people would just assume take the closure as opposed to the fine, each person may have a different preference in terms of the business.

698
00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:40,650
Because the closures can be managed through our city clerk and there are some better times

699
00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:42,150
to be closed than not closed.

700
00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:48,430
So is it consecutive days or is it just three days?

701
00:45:48,430 --> 00:45:49,910
Three days consecutively?

702
00:45:51,010 --> 00:45:51,390
So it can.

703
00:45:51,830 --> 00:45:54,800
Is that correct?

704
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:00,700
If I may, Council Member Camish. Historically, it has been three consecutive days, but on occasion,

705
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,760
it has been three one day, for three weeks, or a different arrangement depending on the

706
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,060
latency.

707
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:13,680
Okay, thanks for your clarification.

708
00:46:16,210 --> 00:46:19,530
Any other comments? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I think for me,

709
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:27,970
I will personally be more lenient on first violations, and I'm sure you'll see that as we have

710
00:46:28,190 --> 00:46:37,390
more of these to discuss anything more than that, I take more issue with and so and so when it comes to

711
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:45,810
the fine and suspension, I will probably always be in support of the full fine amount but then would be open to

712
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:55,870
discussing the number of days for licensed suspension. Because I do not necessarily want to impact

713
00:46:55,870 --> 00:47:02,010
the patrons who want to go to this business, you know, go about their day and whatever.

714
00:47:02,730 --> 00:47:09,570
The fine is like a direct impact to the owner, and that's what we're trying to help

715
00:47:09,570 --> 00:47:15,970
course correct here by administering this. So I will probably be more lenient on the number

716
00:47:15,970 --> 00:47:23,390
of days similar to your point may or of not wanting to impact the business and the patrons

717
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:24,250
in that regard.

718
00:47:24,350 --> 00:47:26,190
So that's just like how I think about this.

719
00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:30,930
My proposal would maybe, again, as I said, probably the full fine amount, and then potentially

720
00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:36,390
taking one day off of the three-day suspension, but again, I do take issue with anything

721
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:43,010
more than one second or third violation, because if we're not figuring it out the first

722
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:48,810
time, it seems like there's some more fundamental issues, so that's why I'm at right now.

723
00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:49,450
All

724
00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:55,260
right, any other who's want to be shared?

725
00:47:55,820 --> 00:48:01,960
John, well I think with the first violations we have been very lenient in terms of both

726
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:10,000
fine and also with the suspension and we have people come back, you know, they come back

727
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,300
with a second violation and then we, you know, because we're lenient the first thing around

728
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:18,140
or even, we're leaning it with the second violation as well.

729
00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:25,380
So personally myself, I mean, in the past decade,

730
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:28,940
we seem to have this whole thing where we kind of like,

731
00:48:28,940 --> 00:48:31,360
oh, it's okay, you know, the business, you know,

732
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,820
they're sorry they made a mistake, you know,

733
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:36,760
well, we'll just go easy on now.

734
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,980
But the issue here is that there are sales

735
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:50,900
to underage individuals in our city, and the way you change that culture is by sticking to

736
00:48:50,900 --> 00:49:00,460
the penalty, and getting the business owners who are in partnership with this process

737
00:49:00,460 --> 00:49:10,960
with us to make sure that they card and prevent underage purchases within their stores, and

738
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:17,780
And again, as we move into the use of TAC products,

739
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,640
I mean, this is something that we need to be

740
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,380
a little more stringent on.

741
00:49:24,340 --> 00:49:25,540
And it's kind of a start here.

742
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:26,480
It starts with us.

743
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,260
We're responsible.

744
00:49:27,580 --> 00:49:31,160
We're responsible for holding up our ordinances

745
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,200
and making sure that we, if we're going to have

746
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,180
liquor sales and tobacco sales and TAC sales

747
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:45,560
in our community that the orders of those industries are following our guidelines to a T,

748
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:54,400
and they should not be here. Because they're showing up means to me it shows me that it's okay

749
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,980
that someone gets a pack of cigarettes, even though they're not old enough to have a pack.

750
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,880
It's okay if they bought a one shot fireball product. It's okay.

751
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:22,380
What we don't really look at is the long-term effects of the youth in our society, getting addicted, and that's what we're asking them to help us with in this process.

752
00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:26,260
And for me, it's frustrating when I have individuals

753
00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:28,700
kind of like go and start, you know,

754
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,940
you kind of want to feel sorry for the business owners.

755
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:37,240
When really truly, I mean, what we need to feel sorry for

756
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:43,180
is the youth in our society who are finding easy ways

757
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:44,360
to get access.

758
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,700
Because once they find out that a business owner

759
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:50,100
is selling to underage people, they flop there,

760
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,660
like there's no tomorrow, you know?

761
00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:59,100
And so I want them to follow the liquor guidelines to a T.

762
00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:01,820
We shouldn't have to worry about compliance checks.

763
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560
The compliance checks should come back clean every time.

764
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:06,000
We're telling them we're coming.

765
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,420
We're telling them we're going to do compliance checks.

766
00:51:08,620 --> 00:51:09,580
And they still fail.

767
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:14,620
And that's the part that frustrates me to, you know, to no ends.

768
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,100
And so I will always, always pick the, you know,

769
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:31,300
You know, the full penalty and the full suspension in every case, and I know people don't see where I'm coming from or or or you know, or can understand how I feel about these things.

770
00:51:31,860 --> 00:51:46,060
I mean, I'm sure I have a teenager, right, and I, and but when I think about it is like, I don't have the opportunity to know what's going on every day in their life, and I don't know if they have access to various areas.

771
00:51:46,060 --> 00:52:14,180
But, you know, I mean, you know, help me, help me be, you know, you know, be a better parent and, you know, I expect these individuals too to also say like, look, you know, we're not going to take on this kind of risk and, and they're going to, they need to change the culture in their business is what I'm asking them to do and that's what I'm asking them to do tonight and I expect you also to support me on that too as well. Thank you.

772
00:52:16,060 --> 00:52:17,300
Yeah, good, Tracy.

773
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:26,960
I definitely understand where John's coming from, and I mean with the size of our city, as small as it is, we have a really large number of liquor stores.

774
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:37,240
And our violation, our penalties are less than neighboring communities, is my understanding.

775
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,940
So, we're picking up the ones that, that, you know, compliance checks, we're seeing the ones

776
00:52:43,940 --> 00:52:48,840
that compliance checks caught, but how many are we not seeing between compliance checks?

777
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:57,160
So, with the number of liquor stores we have, selling liquor, and to me, I'm just concerned

778
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,500
about the ones that we're not picking up.

779
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:05,120
And if we, like, John said, if we set a standard and say, no, this is it, this is not

780
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:13,080
accepted, I feel like they're going to be more careful about what they're doing, make sure

781
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,320
that they've got, you know, you're looking, the state of Minnesota, like we said they, you

782
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,760
know, you're your driver's license is vertical and it says not 21 in big red letters. There's

783
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:30,720
no reason that a violation should occur. Even if you don't have the fancy technology, when you're

784
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:37,860
looking at a driver's license, there's so many fail saves to say, this is not a person

785
00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:44,380
that's legal. I'm with John. I think maximum penalty.

786
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:55,860
So just a comment on our process is we have discretion, you know, we can make these adjustments.

787
00:53:55,860 --> 00:53:57,880
I think we all know that, that's obvious.

788
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,160
And keep in mind, this is a civil action,

789
00:54:05,980 --> 00:54:08,120
and there's already been another action done.

790
00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:11,100
So we're not the only people doing the action.

791
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,660
So there's a sense of kind of a double whammy

792
00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:19,860
when these violations come.

793
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:24,080
And by design, you know, one hits individual,

794
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:39,060
one hits the business and there are some cases where I have done the maximum, I voted for

795
00:54:39,060 --> 00:54:49,120
the maximum because there were more circumstances, there wasn't space for grace in my mind.

796
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:59,740
in that discretion, I think I think we need to use that, treating somebody who has a very bad attitude and will will.

797
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Add mouth, the city of Crystal, or the council themselves. And I'm giving them the same treatment as people who have come at our crucial concern and don't hide from what happened.

798
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:21,340
That that doesn't feel good to me. So I will be going for something a little bit different than the maps.

799
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:26,100
What would if Grace was already given the first time?

800
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,580
less grace the second, no grace the third, that's kind of my, that's my

801
00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:33,220
ticking order.

802
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:42,080
And obviously it's going to be just like any other time we do this, we might

803
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,460
sure go through more than one.

804
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:44,260
Yeah, we do.

805
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Any other comments?

806
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,380
Mr. Mayor?

807
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:50,460
Yes, sir.

808
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,660
And I just make a quick comment.

809
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,420
You're, uh, council member asks about the schedule that the council, that the city has on this.

810
00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:03,440
Just a quick refresher. Some of you weren't on the Council back then in 2018 when those were set.

811
00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:11,500
But the Council did do a comparative review in the mayor. You looked at several different cities,

812
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,900
what their penalties were, and then the schedule that the Council came up with was,

813
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:19,880
I can't say higher low, but it was after consideration.

814
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,660
This is going to be right on the word,

815
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:23,740
considering the other cities.

816
00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:24,840
Yeah, yeah.

817
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:28,520
All right.

818
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,540
Who wants to do a resolution?

819
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:29,960
Anybody?

820
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:33,570
Go ahead, John.

821
00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:37,910
To make a motion that based on the staff report,

822
00:56:38,290 --> 00:56:40,090
including the findings contained therein,

823
00:56:40,450 --> 00:56:42,630
and the other information presented regarding this matter,

824
00:56:43,170 --> 00:56:46,930
that a penalty of $1,500 in a three-day license suspension

825
00:56:46,930 --> 00:56:48,450
be imposed in this case.

826
00:56:48,730 --> 00:56:50,090
I'm looking for a second.

827
00:56:50,610 --> 00:56:51,250
Got a second.

828
00:56:51,370 --> 00:56:51,590
Tracy?

829
00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:52,770
I'll second that.

830
00:56:53,550 --> 00:56:53,790
All right.

831
00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:55,590
Oh, members in favor, please say aye.

832
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:55,990
Aye.

833
00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:56,150
All right.

834
00:56:56,310 --> 00:56:57,270
Polls say nay.

835
00:56:58,990 --> 00:56:59,810
Oh, call, vote, please.

836
00:57:00,530 --> 00:57:01,190
Mayra Adams.

837
00:57:01,690 --> 00:57:01,730
Nay.

838
00:57:02,930 --> 00:57:04,050
Council member Booshowski.

839
00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:06,450
Council member Cummings.

840
00:57:07,890 --> 00:57:08,870
Council member Camish.

841
00:57:10,810 --> 00:57:11,570
Council member Kaiser.

842
00:57:14,070 --> 00:57:15,170
Council member Vanessa Rosen.

843
00:57:17,490 --> 00:57:18,810
Motion tie as motion fails.

844
00:57:19,390 --> 00:57:19,630
All right.

845
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:25,240
Go ahead.

846
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:31,320
I would make a motion that the fine is $1,500, but a two-day suspension.

847
00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:34,520
All right, looking for a second on that.

848
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:35,680
David, I'll second that.

849
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:37,480
Thank you.

850
00:57:37,980 --> 00:57:39,560
Home members in favor, please see I.

851
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,100
I'm supposed to say nay.

852
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,440
Roll call vote.

853
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Council member Budashovski.

854
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:45,940
Nay.

855
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,900
Council member Cummings.

856
00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:48,720
Aye.

857
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:50,900
Council member Camish.

858
00:57:52,780 --> 00:57:53,580
Council member Kaiser.

859
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,760
Council member, Vanessa Rosen.

860
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Mayer Adams.

861
00:57:59,620 --> 00:57:59,640
Aye.

862
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,320
Motion time, motion fails.

863
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:07,990
Didn't you want to have a queen?

864
00:58:09,730 --> 00:58:11,210
It's not going to go for something.

865
00:58:11,650 --> 00:58:13,870
We, we, is there a motion down there?

866
00:58:14,050 --> 00:58:15,490
No, I don't have a motion just to comment.

867
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:16,590
You go ahead and make your comment.

868
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:20,870
Uh, just so folks know where I'm at.

869
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:26,030
And as I said in my initial comments, the second violation piece is what really gets me.

870
00:58:26,030 --> 00:58:29,570
I will probably, as I've said, be more lenient on the first violation.

871
00:58:30,830 --> 00:58:36,090
But that's why I am supportive of a full kind of suspension and fine.

872
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:41,150
Because if you have to come back within two years for this stuff, that's an issue.

873
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,400
So we've had two failed motions.

874
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,960
One is the max, one is just below the max.

875
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,120
The direction we're going is down.

876
00:58:56,270 --> 00:58:58,750
Those are the ones we haven't voted on.

877
00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:02,040
It's split counsel.

878
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,520
What has it gone down?

879
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:15,680
The next motion is going to be less than what the prior two were, unless we duplicate the motion again.

880
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,880
So the direction is more lenient.

881
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,520
I don't know if you realize that.

882
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:29,900
I'll make a motion for fine one day suspension looking for a second.

883
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:31,800
I'll think of that.

884
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,000
Thank you.

885
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,800
Oh, members in favor, please see. I, I, post a name.

886
00:59:40,450 --> 00:59:41,770
Council member Cummings.

887
00:59:42,330 --> 00:59:42,390
Aye.

888
00:59:43,390 --> 00:59:44,410
Council member Camish.

889
00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:47,010
Council member Kaiser.

890
00:59:47,610 --> 00:59:47,630
Aye.

891
00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:50,070
Council member Vanessa Rofson.

892
00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:50,490
Aye.

893
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:52,270
Mayor Adams.

894
00:59:53,370 --> 00:59:53,590
Aye.

895
00:59:54,290 --> 00:59:55,410
Council member Buduschevskiy.

896
00:59:57,730 --> 00:59:58,810
Motion fails five to.

897
00:59:59,350 --> 00:59:59,530
Two.

898
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Our fourth board, excuse me.

899
01:00:05,980 --> 01:00:06,920
Is there another motion?

900
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:15,410
I'll make a motion.

901
01:00:17,850 --> 01:00:21,710
I'll make a motion that based on the staff report, including the findings contained there and the

902
01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:28,070
other information presented regarding the matter. It'll appeal to the $1450, and suspension

903
01:00:28,070 --> 01:00:30,970
licensed for a period of three days.

904
01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:33,250
Be imposed in this case.

905
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,980
Looking for a second.

906
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:38,260
I second the motion.

907
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,100
All members in favor, please say aye.

908
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:44,820
I. I. Paul Sinane. Naye.

909
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,000
Consumobr Camish. I.

910
01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:51,420
Consumobr Kaiser. I.

911
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,080
Consumobr Vanessa Rosen. Naye.

912
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,820
Mayor Adams. Naye.

913
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,500
Consumobr Bootschefsky. I.

914
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:00,760
Consumobr Cummings. Naye.

915
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,000
Moshing Thai. Moshing Pio.

916
01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:10,120
We're going to have to reschedule this year.

917
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,200
If we can't get to a vote.

918
01:01:14,780 --> 01:01:15,500
Well, yeah.

919
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,980
Are you just mags?

920
01:01:20,260 --> 01:01:22,860
I mean, I'm not trying to play on a $50 share.

921
01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:27,380
I mean, it's more of the principle of the thing.

922
01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:33,620
And yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm maximum.

923
01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:42,080
I feel strongly that I don't want to leave this, I'm done tonight.

924
01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:51,510
And you're at two days, is that you're?

925
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:53,990
How about to find make a motion?

926
01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:56,710
Can I make a motion that was already made?

927
01:01:57,810 --> 01:02:02,250
I'll make a motion the fine of $1,500 in a three-day suspension.

928
01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:04,770
All right.

929
01:02:05,550 --> 01:02:06,190
Got a second.

930
01:02:06,430 --> 01:02:07,030
I'll set it up.

931
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:08,190
All right.

932
01:02:08,850 --> 01:02:10,290
All members in favor, please say aye.

933
01:02:11,150 --> 01:02:11,250
Aye.

934
01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:11,530
All right.

935
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:12,690
All right.

936
01:02:14,650 --> 01:02:16,130
Council member Camish.

937
01:02:17,450 --> 01:02:18,170
Council member Kaiser.

938
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:18,810
Aye.

939
01:02:19,630 --> 01:02:20,770
Council member Vanessa Rosen.

940
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:21,290
Aye.

941
01:02:21,290 --> 01:02:22,850
Mayer Adams.

942
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:23,790
Nate.

943
01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:25,390
Council member Budsetsky.

944
01:02:26,430 --> 01:02:27,230
Council member Cummings.

945
01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:28,230
Motion.

946
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:29,410
Motion carries.

947
01:02:29,770 --> 01:02:30,690
Order two.

948
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,520
All right.

949
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Next time on the agenda.

950
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:39,860
Our.

951
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,840
Say clerk will address the council on.

952
01:02:44,370 --> 01:02:46,310
It's a family cafe right.

953
01:02:47,050 --> 01:02:47,250
Into.

954
01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:48,530
Yes.

955
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:51,580
All right.

956
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:51,960
Go ahead.

957
01:02:52,340 --> 01:02:52,620
Missy.

958
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:53,080
Thank you.

959
01:02:54,160 --> 01:03:02,060
The next business that did not pass the compliance check was Family Cafe and Diner located at 6236-56th Avenue North.

960
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,960
The employee of the business has pleaded guilty and court to the offense.

961
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:12,400
Notice the violation of tonight's meeting was sent to the licensee on April 26th.

962
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,080
This is the first violation for this licensee.

963
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:21,440
Staff recommends a $750 fine and when they license suspension and I do believe the license

964
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,680
He is in the audience tonight. All right. Thank you, Chrissy. Any questions for Chrissy on this one?

965
01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:29,640
Seeing none

966
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,320
with the license fee. He's stuck forward.

967
01:03:45,350 --> 01:03:49,410
All right. All right. All right, I'm going to say your name. Thank you. See you guys.

968
01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:51,950
Well

969
01:03:51,950 --> 01:04:00,850
So, that day happening is the lady come and ask him from a fellow and I say, okay,

970
01:04:00,990 --> 01:04:06,310
you can go see the table and it's going to see the table, but I'm busy serving food.

971
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:14,870
When I come back, I say, okay, what is your idea and it's show me the idea and I think

972
01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:15,550
it's not 21.

973
01:04:15,990 --> 01:04:20,930
So, I give you the idea back and I go to the kitchen and I got my calendar in the back.

974
01:04:21,630 --> 01:04:27,070
So when I see the clandari, the officer is coming, so I got that to sorry, but you're not

975
01:04:27,070 --> 01:04:31,310
21, when the officer is say, why you could be up here? I say, I don't give you any beer.

976
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:39,070
It's only aggloss the water. No, you could be up here. No, I never could be up here.

977
01:04:39,690 --> 01:04:46,110
Well, you can be the ticket. Why? I don't give you a beer. I don't care. You can be a ticket.

978
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:55,050
And they give you the ticket because more and more is like more angry or something they're like, okay

979
01:04:56,850 --> 01:04:59,970
Did you want a formal hearing or did you just want to have a

980
01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:13,160
A conversation with the council here. Do you want a formal hearing? Or did you just want to have a conversation?

981
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:28,880
It's a matter of guilt or not. So if you're not, if you don't think that you're guilty, you may want to have a hearing, you may not. I don't know. It's up to your preference.

982
01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:33,160
Will you ask him the question again and my daughter help me?

983
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:36,600
The question is, do you want to have a formal hearing

984
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,020
where we give testimony and it would be just more formal

985
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:43,240
of what we just went through?

986
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,100
Or do you want to just go through and have a conversation?

987
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:19,380
All right,

988
01:06:21,460 --> 01:06:22,820
so

989
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:34,640
you've requested a formal hearing, so at this time, I will open the public

990
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:42,480
you're welcome to provide testimony as well as any documents regarding the incident that you'd like to offer.

991
01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:51,400
So you did start a dialogue with us. You can repeat the dialogue and we'll go from there.

992
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,560
I don't know what that.

993
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,620
I don't know what that.

994
01:06:58,620 --> 01:06:59,240
I don't know the telephone.

995
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,620
You did not bring the papers, eh?

996
01:07:03,250 --> 01:07:03,550
Okay.

997
01:07:07,890 --> 01:07:09,290
Would you paper are you referring to?

998
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,420
I don't know.

999
01:07:14,730 --> 01:07:16,110
Are you referring to the notice?

1000
01:07:16,810 --> 01:07:18,710
So you're referring to the police reports?

1001
01:07:19,710 --> 01:07:22,470
No, no, no, that paper will be sent to me.

1002
01:07:23,290 --> 01:07:24,910
We have a copy of that.

1003
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:35,530
So you gave testimony that you never served a person.

1004
01:07:35,530 --> 01:07:45,390
Yeah, you did you serve them water and that was it. Yeah, there's a lot of water and the menu because not like normal the customer

1005
01:07:47,110 --> 01:07:54,930
And it's like I do I mean I check the idea, but the idea is like 20 days

1006
01:07:57,150 --> 01:08:10,210
So I go check my culinary because sometimes it's confused and yeah, this lady who I say, well, when they come back, the officer said, ready with the lady, okay?

1007
01:08:12,260 --> 01:08:12,560
Okay.

1008
01:08:12,820 --> 01:08:15,160
Did you have anything else you wanted to add to that testimony?

1009
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,260
No.

1010
01:08:18,140 --> 01:08:18,340
Okay.

1011
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,840
Does the council have any questions for him?

1012
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:21,580
Go ahead, Tracy.

1013
01:08:21,580 --> 01:08:26,460
Did you take her cash for the purchase of the beer?

1014
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:27,160
Yeah.

1015
01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:28,660
So you took her cash?

1016
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:34,680
Yeah, take cash when I send the back of the officers there already.

1017
01:08:35,480 --> 01:08:36,800
But I don't take the ticket.

1018
01:08:38,060 --> 01:08:40,400
So the other officers, you need any of the ticket.

1019
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,260
I need the ticket. I don't deserve anything.

1020
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,580
And did you have a receipt as well for the purchase of the beer?

1021
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:51,180
The lady, yeah, I don't have it.

1022
01:08:51,180 --> 01:08:57,420
But you gave her one. Yeah, because this told me like five times. I need the ticket

1023
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:02,280
Did you give her back all of her cash or just change?

1024
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:04,080
She said they don't want it. Um

1025
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,200
Well, there

1026
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,940
Many more that beer is like seven something and it's give me only five dollars

1027
01:09:09,940 --> 01:09:15,780
She gave you five. Yeah, and I tried to cash back but they don't want so no that give me the ticket

1028
01:09:15,780 --> 01:09:19,920
but you're not 21, what do you think I still be for you?

1029
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:25,530
But the officer is like, I don't know, it's kind of like,

1030
01:09:25,650 --> 01:09:27,790
I agree because I don't give you the right way.

1031
01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:33,440
I take minimal, like, ten minutes or more.

1032
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,940
John, so your, your, your family diner can't pay.

1033
01:09:40,460 --> 01:09:44,220
So, is your business model where, like, they pre-pay for everything

1034
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:46,320
before they receive it?

1035
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,860
So, they come up to a counter or is it, you do action?

1036
01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:54,800
You know, this is great when it's done, but this lady is too much and she's like,

1037
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,980
Q the money, Q the money, Q the money, and I'm sorry I'm busy right now, and I think...

1038
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:28,520
Okay, but I'm just wondering, you know, your business model is, I mean, like for instance, we're talking about liquor stores, or obviously you bring the beer up to the counter and, you know, in your checked out of the counter, your business model is that you, everybody pays for their food in beverage before it's served to them? Is that your business model?

1039
01:10:37,180 --> 01:10:43,640
We see them first and then they eat and they drink all of them, like everything in order and then they pay.

1040
01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:45,110
Okay, so they pay after that.

1041
01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:53,660
All right, so this individual came into your, your restaurant, right, ordered a beer, right?

1042
01:10:53,660 --> 01:11:02,000
in U.S. for ID, and then I'm trying to understand the whole cash transaction part, but

1043
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:09,500
anyways, you went back and checked the ID, but you didn't pour the beer or actually take

1044
01:11:09,500 --> 01:11:12,700
the cap off the beer or open the can of beer, you didn't do any of that.

1045
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,300
No, no, no, no, I don't think anything, and I don't want to look for the beer. I don't

1046
01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:23,320
It's only a ring that allows the water, and that's it.

1047
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,420
And what am I missing here?

1048
01:11:26,620 --> 01:11:27,360
I mean, I don't know.

1049
01:11:27,580 --> 01:11:29,740
We can we can have some further questions with staff.

1050
01:11:29,980 --> 01:11:30,180
Okay.

1051
01:11:30,500 --> 01:11:32,080
And with with our police representative.

1052
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,200
All right.

1053
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,360
That's probably going to have.

1054
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,340
Any other questions for them?

1055
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:38,440
All right.

1056
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,580
Our chief reverberation is here as the police representative.

1057
01:11:41,980 --> 01:11:42,620
Thank you.

1058
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:44,600
If none of you have been the FNM Kathy,

1059
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,460
I highly recommend it to the FNM Food.

1060
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,020
But in any event.

1061
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,220
Sir, were you charged?

1062
01:11:49,220 --> 01:11:53,440
and convicted of the gross misdemeanor sale to a minor?

1063
01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:07,440
I'll see.

1064
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,660
I'm not going to be able to see.

1065
01:12:12,180 --> 01:12:13,920
Yeah, they've got your own path.

1066
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:15,700
He has said that to a minor.

1067
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,220
Yep, and he got probation and all that.

1068
01:12:18,380 --> 01:12:20,220
So he didn't have to pay a fine or anything like that.

1069
01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:26,720
I will tell you, I do think this is a potential language barrier issue.

1070
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,760
What we did was correct.

1071
01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:37,800
I do think that he is correct in saying that he did not put a beer in front of her.

1072
01:12:38,900 --> 01:12:43,520
However, he did take the cash for the beer that was ordered along with the receipt.

1073
01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:49,980
But a beer was never actually given to our decoy physically given to her.

1074
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,580
If that makes sense.

1075
01:12:54,540 --> 01:12:54,720
Okay.

1076
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:55,840
Can I ask?

1077
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:56,660
Yeah, go ahead please.

1078
01:12:56,780 --> 01:12:58,740
So I'm not understanding the cash thing.

1079
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,680
So beer was $7.

1080
01:13:01,220 --> 01:13:01,920
I have no idea.

1081
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,280
Oh, you don't know that.

1082
01:13:03,380 --> 01:13:03,940
I don't, yeah.

1083
01:13:04,220 --> 01:13:05,060
I had to have no idea.

1084
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:06,380
I'm just trying to...

1085
01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:08,140
I just know that she did give him cash.

1086
01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:11,440
To her, like the difference.

1087
01:13:11,620 --> 01:13:12,780
Did he give her the difference?

1088
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,000
I have no idea.

1089
01:13:14,980 --> 01:13:15,780
Does anybody...

1090
01:13:15,780 --> 01:13:16,780
Does it say in the report?

1091
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:17,220
I'm sorry.

1092
01:13:17,340 --> 01:13:17,720
I don't have it.

1093
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:18,960
It doesn't appear with it.

1094
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:19,760
All right.

1095
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:20,600
I don't know.

1096
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:21,940
We don't know.

1097
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:31,160
As we do, these are processed to, in like a sit-down restaurant, to order the thing and give cash right away.

1098
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,880
like, is that part of how we,

1099
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,080
because that feels different than how I would

1100
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:38,860
questionally die in that arrest run.

1101
01:13:39,180 --> 01:13:41,420
And so there's, that's maybe a confusing thing

1102
01:13:41,420 --> 01:13:43,140
of like, why are you giving me money right now,

1103
01:13:43,700 --> 01:13:44,800
especially if there's a language thing.

1104
01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:47,580
So I'm curious, is that how we execute these?

1105
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,080
Yeah, no, I think this was interesting.

1106
01:13:50,340 --> 01:13:52,400
I have a feeling this may have been the first one

1107
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,720
of the evening that they were doing.

1108
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,060
And the decoy, maybe this was her first one.

1109
01:13:57,060 --> 01:13:58,680
And normally,

1110
01:14:00,820 --> 01:14:04,280
the beer or liquor is served, right?

1111
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,100
Now, with that said, right, there was a cash transaction,

1112
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:13,700
but there was no actual beer given to her.

1113
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,440
Okay, so the transaction wasn't finished.

1114
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:19,320
Correct.

1115
01:14:24,970 --> 01:14:26,410
All right, any other questions?

1116
01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:29,130
No, thank you.

1117
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:31,560
Yeah, go ahead.

1118
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:32,180
How's she?

1119
01:14:34,860 --> 01:14:42,940
What do you have in place or what are your processes to ensure that underage folks do not get served alcohol?

1120
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:31,810
How many days has it been, how many days has been, how many years has been, and then

1121
01:15:36,650 --> 01:15:43,230
He basically sees like how old she is and then or how many days she's left from 21 or how many years.

1122
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:45,130
So he doesn't make a mistake.

1123
01:15:47,470 --> 01:15:52,630
The other thing is I have a customer's leaving because they don't have ID.

1124
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:57,510
I say, sorry, I can say I'll call because you don't have ID and it's leaving.

1125
01:15:58,010 --> 01:16:00,750
I said, okay, I can help you out there, sorry.

1126
01:16:02,890 --> 01:16:05,690
You want to come back eating, that's it, it's fine.

1127
01:16:06,490 --> 01:16:09,230
So do you look at everyone's ID who orders alcohol?

1128
01:16:09,550 --> 01:16:09,990
Yeah,

1129
01:16:12,510 --> 01:16:16,970
yeah, one guy is mostly like, I don't know, maybe he's 60.

1130
01:16:17,890 --> 01:16:19,110
Can I switch on me to ID?

1131
01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:20,730
Do you think you're actually ID?

1132
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,650
I said, well, I don't want any problem.

1133
01:16:25,830 --> 01:16:26,450
You're quite tracing.

1134
01:16:26,650 --> 01:16:28,090
How long have you been in business?

1135
01:16:28,890 --> 01:16:36,030
three years and I'll call a, I think it's almost my year.

1136
01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:39,850
Okay. Yeah. Go ahead, John.

1137
01:16:40,650 --> 01:16:48,250
So the individual that showed you her ID, the ID is the one that is for an individual

1138
01:16:48,250 --> 01:16:53,290
who's under age, right? And I think it's been pointed out here that it says right

1139
01:16:53,290 --> 01:16:57,070
on there that they're not 21, right?

1140
01:16:57,410 --> 01:17:02,130
And so you shouldn't have to worry about going back to your calendar

1141
01:17:02,130 --> 01:17:04,730
and checking to see if they're old enough or not,

1142
01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:08,710
you should just be saying, I'm sorry, I can't serve alcohol

1143
01:17:08,710 --> 01:17:11,650
to you because you're under age, right?

1144
01:17:12,490 --> 01:17:13,590
Does that make sense?

1145
01:17:13,890 --> 01:17:15,190
Because the idea is different.

1146
01:17:16,130 --> 01:17:18,470
So they still have to do the math that they don't have,

1147
01:17:18,850 --> 01:17:22,470
if they didn't get issued, their new idea, they can use

1148
01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:27,970
the underage ID to be served because it does have their their data birth and it is a legal

1149
01:17:27,970 --> 01:17:36,690
ID in my correct no with papers with papers if they have the papers with them but not just

1150
01:17:36,690 --> 01:17:47,570
the ID itself right because it's in bold big letters under 21 yeah yeah so I think if the new ones

1151
01:17:47,570 --> 01:17:53,650
is different. The new ones is look different. They don't have 21. The new

1152
01:17:53,650 --> 01:17:58,710
IDs. Because I look a lot of IDs. And they say, oh, you don't 21. Because

1153
01:17:58,710 --> 01:18:02,810
you're not looking, they say, you have 21.

1154
01:18:03,630 --> 01:18:08,750
Okay. Yeah. We're not going to get into the weeds, the weeds on the

1155
01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:15,590
All right, any other questions for either?

1156
01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:18,390
Well, I just have like a comment about,

1157
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:19,470
I don't know, but that's the time.

1158
01:18:19,750 --> 01:18:24,410
Comment about like using IDs or a system for like checking IDs.

1159
01:18:25,090 --> 01:18:26,850
Is it a comment you want to make to them?

1160
01:18:27,470 --> 01:18:27,830
Yeah, yeah, feel free.

1161
01:18:28,490 --> 01:18:32,910
Well, I would just say it sounds like using the calendar is maybe not the best system.

1162
01:18:33,330 --> 01:18:37,110
I think there's more efficient systems that you could use like a person

1163
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:41,670
mention they have like a thing that says the date all the time like the when person's

1164
01:18:41,670 --> 01:18:47,550
21 or other businesses they have like a machine where they scan the ID and then that

1165
01:18:47,550 --> 01:18:52,030
tells them they're too. So I would encourage you to have some kind of system maybe different

1166
01:18:52,030 --> 01:18:55,770
than the calendar. So like when you're getting busy that going to the calendar is going to take

1167
01:18:55,770 --> 01:19:00,010
you a lot of time out of from other things and I think you're more likely to make a mistake and

1168
01:19:00,010 --> 01:19:04,790
have future violations. So that's just my thought on your process for checking IDs.

1169
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:07,330
Okay. Thank you. All right.

1170
01:19:08,570 --> 01:19:12,790
What really quick? Do you mind telling me what your daily alcohol sales are?

1171
01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:16,030
I don't know. Can I be in contact with you?

1172
01:19:17,650 --> 01:19:21,650
For eight, ten dollars, twenty-one dollars.

1173
01:19:23,570 --> 01:19:25,450
Like one or two beers, so it's none.

1174
01:19:26,170 --> 01:19:26,730
Virtually none.

1175
01:19:27,390 --> 01:19:29,130
Yeah. Sometimes none.

1176
01:19:30,070 --> 01:19:30,710
Yeah. Great.

1177
01:19:30,710 --> 01:19:37,270
The thing is because a family cafe mostly the customers come in like for breakfast

1178
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:45,930
Great coffee, so the coffee is short of yeah for fresh water and coffee, so let more of that. Yeah, yeah

1179
01:19:45,930 --> 01:19:52,450
Very good. Thank you. Yeah, all right. Thank you. You may have a seat. Thank you. All right comments from the council

1180
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:55,330
As you know, yeah

1181
01:19:55,330 --> 01:19:58,890
Well, I guess especially the hearing is closed

1182
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,900
We're going into deliberations. Go ahead, tachy.

1183
01:20:03,820 --> 01:20:08,880
I was wrong, told you, that's the start. You don't have to. No, I will. I always have something to say.

1184
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:10,540
This one's tough.

1185
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:20,500
They obviously did not serve alcohol to a minor, so I'm struggling with that reality.

1186
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:31,640
If anything, so where I'm at, as I've said, I will always be in favor of the fine, I will have more leniency on this suspension.

1187
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:38,660
I am not in favor of a suspension right now, personally, I am open to a fine, I'm also open to no fine,

1188
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:46,040
because of how kind of gray this situation seems and how no alcohol is actually served to a minor.

1189
01:20:47,930 --> 01:20:56,570
Just want to comment on if you're looking at no fine, you're basically putting that burden on our taxpayers.

1190
01:20:57,030 --> 01:21:01,630
Because this is something that our police force is conducting throughout the city.

1191
01:21:02,010 --> 01:21:04,370
And there's obviously costs in preparation.

1192
01:21:05,230 --> 01:21:07,030
There's a process that's involved with this.

1193
01:21:07,150 --> 01:21:09,590
And so to say that there's no fine in this situation.

1194
01:21:11,650 --> 01:21:14,230
Basically there is a cost to this process.

1195
01:21:14,230 --> 01:21:30,150
And I understand that, I asked the question about sales, but even then there is a person

1196
01:21:30,150 --> 01:21:38,590
on here and you should realize that we've been through this before and we've had some

1197
01:21:38,590 --> 01:21:44,830
particularly low fines in cases for establishments that are much more established than

1198
01:21:44,830 --> 01:21:51,870
this businesses, and invariably that cost is transferred on to the taxpayers themselves,

1199
01:21:52,030 --> 01:21:58,650
and so I would be very opposed to any type of low or no-finder at all.

1200
01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:01,130
So, all right, no surprise.

1201
01:22:04,810 --> 01:22:07,750
Anybody else want to make comments or show you?

1202
01:22:07,890 --> 01:22:08,150
Go ahead.

1203
01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:12,670
I would definitely be in favor of a full violation,

1204
01:22:13,950 --> 01:22:17,570
but with our police chiefs saying that it might have been

1205
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:20,690
a combination of a language barrier

1206
01:22:20,690 --> 01:22:23,030
and the decoys first assignment,

1207
01:22:25,470 --> 01:22:27,170
it kind of makes me feel,

1208
01:22:27,170 --> 01:22:32,670
Honestly, I would rather in this case only for go a fine and do like a three-day suspension

1209
01:22:33,450 --> 01:22:40,590
It's one day. Oh, well, right, but I mean, can we not increase that if we're offsetting it can only be one

1210
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:43,010
It's a max. Oh, it is a max. Okay, then I guess

1211
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:52,710
One day is the max and some 50 is the max and just to verify he was not fine on the civil side. It was just was

1212
01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:56,270
The criminal side. Yes, he was

1213
01:22:56,270 --> 01:23:03,070
Yeah, I'm going to guess he possibly may have been fine, but if it was his first time

1214
01:23:03,070 --> 01:23:05,950
which it was, it usually are given like a probation of some type.

1215
01:23:25,930 --> 01:23:26,490
Any other comments?

1216
01:23:26,970 --> 01:23:32,490
Last chance, seeing none looking for a motion, I'll make a motion.

1217
01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:44,380
I move that we find at $100 in no suspension, looking for a second on that.

1218
01:23:44,380 --> 01:23:46,020
I'll second that.

1219
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,160
Thank you.

1220
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:48,920
All members in favor, please say aye.

1221
01:23:50,780 --> 01:23:51,480
Poles say nay.

1222
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:54,000
Aye.

1223
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:54,940
You have to be roll call.

1224
01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:56,660
Yes, roll call.

1225
01:23:57,780 --> 01:23:58,660
Consum member Kaiser.

1226
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,500
Nay.

1227
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,460
Consum member Vanessa Rosen.

1228
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,340
Mayor Adams.

1229
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:05,080
Aye.

1230
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:06,960
Consum member Booshowski.

1231
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:07,560
Nay.

1232
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:08,980
Consum member Cummings.

1233
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,300
Consum member Camish.

1234
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:11,820
Nay.

1235
01:24:12,380 --> 01:24:13,540
Motion failed, supported, too.

1236
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,040
All right, looking for another motion.

1237
01:24:17,860 --> 01:24:18,440
Dad, James?

1238
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,900
I make a motion that based on the staff report,

1239
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,560
including the findings contained therein,

1240
01:24:22,660 --> 01:24:24,560
and the other information presented regarding this matter,

1241
01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:28,760
that a penalty of $750 be imposed in this case.

1242
01:24:32,090 --> 01:24:33,430
All right, looking for a second.

1243
01:24:34,590 --> 01:24:35,470
I'll second that motion.

1244
01:24:36,350 --> 01:24:36,570
All right.

1245
01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:38,410
All members in favor, please say aye.

1246
01:24:39,890 --> 01:24:40,290
Opposed.

1247
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:41,370
Aye.

1248
01:24:42,630 --> 01:24:43,030
Vocal.

1249
01:24:43,450 --> 01:24:44,630
Coz number 1, Mr. Rosen.

1250
01:24:45,150 --> 01:24:45,430
Aye.

1251
01:24:46,150 --> 01:24:46,830
Mayor Adams.

1252
01:24:46,830 --> 01:24:47,370
I

1253
01:24:47,370 --> 01:24:49,750
Come to remember Buddha Shafski.

1254
01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:50,250
Hey.

1255
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:51,930
Come to remember Cummings.

1256
01:24:51,950 --> 01:24:52,310
Hi.

1257
01:24:53,230 --> 01:24:54,230
Come to remember Camish.

1258
01:24:55,170 --> 01:24:55,270
Nay.

1259
01:24:56,250 --> 01:24:57,110
Come to remember Kaiser.

1260
01:24:58,590 --> 01:24:59,310
Motion ties.

1261
01:24:59,650 --> 01:24:59,830
Motion.

1262
01:25:04,940 --> 01:25:06,600
We're getting better.

1263
01:25:15,180 --> 01:25:21,380
Chief, you haven't come in. Mr. Mayor, and Council, I want to apologize for putting you in this position first of all.

1264
01:25:22,620 --> 01:25:33,660
Council member Guisxeski is correct. It does cost us about, we give a decoy about $50 for their volunteer time to be our decoy, so they get 50 bucks.

1265
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:39,640
and then the staff time when an officer or two is usually depending on that either

1266
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,040
switch their schedules so as that straight time or it's potentially an overtime.

1267
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:55,040
I tell you that to say that I think reasonably, right, it's the $100 fine, you know, less

1268
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,480
than the 750 makes sense only because, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do.

1269
01:25:58,540 --> 01:26:01,600
I just think that there was a misstep here with us.

1270
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:08,460
I think there's a misstep with the owner as well but I think more so on us and so I tell you that to say that

1271
01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:14,940
Again, right if if they come before you a second time then that's a huge problem, right?

1272
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,400
But I do think that we that we as the police department did a misstep on this one

1273
01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:25,340
and Council member Boosheski's looking at me

1274
01:26:25,340 --> 01:26:27,260
Are you really like being serious?

1275
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:28,040
I am

1276
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,060
We missed out. So

1277
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:33,120
All right, thank you, Chief. Yep,

1278
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:39,920
so

1279
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,920
So just here we go, hold on, I didn't call you.

1280
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:45,340
How did you go ahead?

1281
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:52,620
My comments, I just struggle with the logic of, well, if you don't find them, then

1282
01:26:52,620 --> 01:26:55,000
it's our taxpayers having to pay this.

1283
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:59,680
I mean, it cost us to do this at every establishment.

1284
01:27:01,660 --> 01:27:05,380
And so it's like, as if we were to give a flat fee for like, we're going to charge everyone

1285
01:27:05,380 --> 01:27:09,800
100 bucks because we're going to, you know, do this, do this thing at your staff's

1286
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:10,100
friends side.

1287
01:27:10,180 --> 01:27:12,820
I don't, I don't appreciate that logic.

1288
01:27:13,020 --> 01:27:18,780
I understand there's a cost, but I'm not trying to just, I am not making the connection

1289
01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:24,520
here of, okay, we're going to find these people to fund our practice of doing this.

1290
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,620
I mean, I want to, I think we should be focusing on what actually happened.

1291
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,500
There's obviously gray and stuff didn't go right.

1292
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,360
And so with all that said, I'm open to a lower fund.

1293
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:41,540
And if we were to vote for $100 again, I would probably support that for what it's worth.

1294
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,760
Well said, I agree with that logic.

1295
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,680
It escapes me as well.

1296
01:27:49,060 --> 01:27:49,140
Three.

1297
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:55,640
I, because of the misstep and because there was no alcohol actually served,

1298
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:01,300
I would make a motion that there is a warning issue with no suspension and no fine.

1299
01:28:02,020 --> 01:28:03,880
Looking for a second on that?

1300
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:05,680
I'll take a day of motion.

1301
01:28:06,420 --> 01:28:06,680
All right.

1302
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,360
All members in favor, please say aye.

1303
01:28:09,620 --> 01:28:10,040
Aye.

1304
01:28:10,460 --> 01:28:11,160
All say nay.

1305
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,080
Mayor Adams.

1306
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:14,820
Aye.

1307
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:16,560
Council member Booshowski.

1308
01:28:16,940 --> 01:28:17,160
Aye.

1309
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:18,960
Council member Cummings.

1310
01:28:19,060 --> 01:28:19,260
Aye.

1311
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:21,240
Council member Camish.

1312
01:28:22,900 --> 01:28:23,740
Council member Kaiser.

1313
01:28:24,980 --> 01:28:26,060
Council member Vanessa Rosen.

1314
01:28:27,980 --> 01:28:28,160
Motion.

1315
01:28:28,420 --> 01:28:29,720
Motion tied motion fails.

1316
01:28:31,460 --> 01:28:33,680
I would like to make a point.

1317
01:28:34,060 --> 01:28:36,700
So in the case of this business, the gentleman told me

1318
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:43,000
that he might sell to alcoholic beverages per day.

1319
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:50,680
So the one day licensed suspension is not going to affect

1320
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,700
his business.

1321
01:28:52,620 --> 01:28:58,440
So if anything, that should be included in whatever

1322
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:14,820
motion we put forward. $750 is our penalty and it's discretionary. It is discretionary, but the whole thing is.

1323
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:26,520
I know, but it is discretionary. But I think any type of penalty that's just cash only without a license suspension is, again,

1324
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:33,260
I think is we're getting ourselves onto this slippery slope, so okay, thank you for that.

1325
01:29:33,380 --> 01:29:36,280
I make a motion make a penalty of $100.

1326
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,340
No license suspension.

1327
01:29:40,180 --> 01:29:41,520
Cooking for a second.

1328
01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:42,880
David?

1329
01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:43,740
I'll second that.

1330
01:29:43,820 --> 01:29:44,280
Thank you.

1331
01:29:44,420 --> 01:29:45,960
All members in favor please say aye.

1332
01:29:46,940 --> 01:29:47,700
Coz say nay.

1333
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:48,340
Aye.

1334
01:29:49,980 --> 01:29:51,080
Rollins the member of boot.

1335
01:29:51,220 --> 01:29:51,660
Excuse me.

1336
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:52,800
Council member of the Shavski.

1337
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:53,480
Aye.

1338
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:54,920
Council member Cummings.

1339
01:29:55,580 --> 01:29:55,680
Aye.

1340
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,960
Come to NeverCamish, nay, come to NeverCamish.

1341
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,980
Member Kaiser, nay, council member Ernessa Rosen, aye, mayor Adams, motion, aye, motion, aye,

1342
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:13,060
motion, payles. Go ahead. Okay, I'd like to make a motion and I'm the only hang up that

1343
01:30:13,060 --> 01:30:21,360
I have is that he, the license plate or the driver's license was and it said, under 21.

1344
01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:29,960
So that's the hang up for me. So with that said, I'll make a motion for, it wasn't

1345
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:40,020
served. No, but money was taken and a receipt was printed. With that, I will make a

1346
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:43,900
motion of a fine of $250 and a suspension for one day.

1347
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,260
Looking for a second, dodging?

1348
01:30:48,380 --> 01:30:54,540
I'll second that. All members in favor, please say aye. Aye. Post in aye. Aye.

1349
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,240
Council member

1350
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:04,060
Cummings. Aye. Council member Camish. Aye. Council member Kaiser. Aye. Council member

1351
01:31:04,060 --> 01:31:04,880
Vanessa Rosen.

1352
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:06,360
Mayor Adams.

1353
01:31:06,380 --> 01:31:06,620
Hey.

1354
01:31:07,480 --> 01:31:08,520
Councilmember Budsetski.

1355
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:09,920
Motion.

1356
01:31:10,260 --> 01:31:11,040
Or excuse me.

1357
01:31:11,140 --> 01:31:11,660
Motion passes.

1358
01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:12,180
Fortitude.

1359
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:14,160
OK.

1360
01:31:23,620 --> 01:31:24,800
We have enough film in the camera.

1361
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:25,600
It was.

1362
01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:38,200
All right.

1363
01:31:40,860 --> 01:31:45,160
Next, the council will consider some policies for a violation of liquor license regulations

1364
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:46,760
by Milton's Cafe.

1365
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:49,320
Our city clerk, Prissy, will address the council.

1366
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:50,780
Thank you again.

1367
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:52,040
Milton's Cafe.

1368
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:56,380
at 35-45 Douglas Drive also did not pass the compliance check.

1369
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,900
The employee of the business is pleading guilty and court to the offense, notice on the

1370
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:05,480
violation, and tonight's meeting was sent to the licensee in April 26th.

1371
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:11,400
This is considered a first violation for this licensee staff is recommending a $750 fine

1372
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:16,160
in one day license suspension, and I do believe the business owners are in the audience

1373
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:16,460
tonight.

1374
01:32:16,460 --> 01:32:23,500
Yes. Thank you. All right. Any questions for Prissy? Seeing none.

1375
01:32:24,620 --> 01:32:26,240
Could though licensee step forward?

1376
01:32:30,540 --> 01:32:31,900
Hello, please state your name.

1377
01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:33,120
Francine Weber?

1378
01:32:35,140 --> 01:32:35,780
Phil Weber.

1379
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:38,460
Hi.

1380
01:32:40,220 --> 01:32:44,900
So same question is, are you interested in a formal hearing or,

1381
01:32:44,900 --> 01:32:48,220
Would you like to weigh the hearing and just have a...

1382
01:32:48,220 --> 01:32:48,800
We'll weigh it.

1383
01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:49,140
All right.

1384
01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:57,400
So questions from the council, for them, any questions?

1385
01:33:00,220 --> 01:33:01,340
Did you want to make any statements?

1386
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:02,420
Yes.

1387
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:04,360
We're in our 12th year.

1388
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:05,450
I think we've done pretty good.

1389
01:33:06,220 --> 01:33:10,100
I'm going to agreement that, I'm sure it's not been the only time

1390
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,280
that a minor has been served.

1391
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,000
You know, I think what are the odds, right?

1392
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:19,340
I take pride in being transparent,

1393
01:33:19,340 --> 01:33:27,800
in being a real realistic and running my business for people who know me, and I take responsibility

1394
01:33:28,340 --> 01:33:30,700
for what has happened in my space.

1395
01:33:32,020 --> 01:33:34,300
These servers no longer with us.

1396
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,660
He actually was a seasonal job.

1397
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,780
I'm sure that he did not get the training that he needed when he was hired.

1398
01:33:42,380 --> 01:33:47,460
We run short-stabbed, and some things just kind of get messed.

1399
01:33:47,460 --> 01:33:56,700
We have adopted what I like to call the biorelease way of getting, you know, checking ID, no matter what your age is.

1400
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:06,580
You know, it's all I have to say, I'm sorry that it happened and it's our responsibility with our employees to make sure that they do what they need to do.

1401
01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:10,900
You know, like I said, we've been open, I think we're in our 12th year.

1402
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,500
So, not too bad.

1403
01:34:14,540 --> 01:34:15,480
I agree.

1404
01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:20,440
Also, I just like to say to you, is that we also have another restaurant.

1405
01:34:22,420 --> 01:34:28,640
And we do, because our church, the grand job to church, we offer help the hall of awareness,

1406
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,820
training to all our staff, and Milton's staff.

1407
01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:33,520
Post COVID.

1408
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:34,940
We missed you here.

1409
01:34:35,660 --> 01:34:37,240
Just one of those important things.

1410
01:34:37,500 --> 01:34:40,020
It was a crazy time and everybody's life.

1411
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:41,500
Not if it's used at all.

1412
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,340
I mean, this is something.

1413
01:34:42,340 --> 01:34:59,490
It's just real hard that I've been doing this for 50 years and millions is a stellar place in the community.

1414
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,080
Community oriented community minded are other restaurants of the way in St. Louis Park. So we would never knowingly set out to serve a minor.

1415
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:22,180
We would knowingly not for a dollar or serve somebody just to get the dollar. Not worth it to us. It's offensive to you and we take the license very seriously.

1416
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,600
So I just, and I'm speaking for most people in the industry, they take it very seriously.

1417
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:31,720
If they're hurt and they're so in their business, and it's, you know, it's our life.

1418
01:35:32,740 --> 01:35:38,420
So, and I'm, and again, I'm not making them, I don't even know the situation of listening to the fine or anything.

1419
01:35:38,500 --> 01:35:46,720
We did it, and it's, it's over and done, but we will be as diligent as we can, training all our staff to make sure they check all the IDs.

1420
01:35:49,020 --> 01:35:49,820
I can't find trace.

1421
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:55,020
I was just wondering if you could explain, you said it's the birley's way, what is that?

1422
01:35:55,380 --> 01:35:57,360
Everybody could say D no matter what your age is.

1423
01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:59,660
Yeah, it doesn't matter, yeah.

1424
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,260
Who trains your employees when they're hired?

1425
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,120
What my daughter normally does.

1426
01:36:04,900 --> 01:36:06,020
That's been in the business.

1427
01:36:06,260 --> 01:36:07,820
Is that who trained this individual?

1428
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,560
I honestly couldn't say during that time period.

1429
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:16,440
It's just been in disarray since just with staff and the way people would be in broad on

1430
01:36:16,440 --> 01:36:38,360
And I, in fact, I just hired four people last week, a bartender and, you know, some more mature people who've been in the business, we tend to hire people who haven't been in the business, so they don't come with the experience, and so, you know, I don't regret it, but, you know, hiring the onions, but, you know, they don't come with the experience, so.

1431
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,520
and the cursesales that build is probably about 18% of the business.

1432
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,960
So it's not a huge piece of the business.

1433
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,560
And I assume too, when you have the license,

1434
01:36:47,740 --> 01:36:51,760
especially when we're talking beverage only in less than two.

1435
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,460
So yeah, it's not a big, it's not a huge piece of the business.

1436
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:57,240
It's an important one, but it's not a huge deal.

1437
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,480
All right, any other questions?

1438
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:04,100
All right.

1439
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,580
Thank you for your stuff.

1440
01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:05,920
Yeah.

1441
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:06,360
Thank you.

1442
01:37:06,620 --> 01:37:07,880
All right.

1443
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:16,640
Any further discussion?

1444
01:37:17,740 --> 01:37:18,980
Any other questions from staff?

1445
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,120
see none

1446
01:37:23,620 --> 01:37:29,420
looking for a motion I can make that motion make a motion that

1447
01:37:29,420 --> 01:37:32,980
based on the staff report including the findings contained therein in the

1448
01:37:32,980 --> 01:37:37,940
other information presented regarding this matter at a penalty of $750 in a

1449
01:37:37,940 --> 01:37:41,740
one-day license suspension being posed in this case all right looking for a

1450
01:37:42,820 --> 01:37:48,360
second Tracy I'll think I'm that all right my members in favor please say aye I

1451
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,620
Paul Sinney, Nihay, Roko.

1452
01:37:52,540 --> 01:37:56,500
Council member Camish, I, Council member Kaiser, I,

1453
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,020
Council member Vanessa Rosen.

1454
01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:59,280
Nihay.

1455
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,040
Mayor Adams.

1456
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:01,120
Nihay.

1457
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:02,240
Council member Booshowski.

1458
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:02,820
I.

1459
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:04,640
Council member Cummings.

1460
01:38:06,260 --> 01:38:06,580
Nihay.

1461
01:38:06,980 --> 01:38:08,420
Motion ties, motion peace.

1462
01:38:14,220 --> 01:38:14,420
All right.

1463
01:38:14,540 --> 01:38:23,110
I make a motion to have a penalty of $750 or $750.

1464
01:38:23,110 --> 01:38:28,030
hours, no suspension, looking for a second.

1465
01:38:28,730 --> 01:38:28,790
Taji?

1466
01:38:29,110 --> 01:38:29,830
No second thought.

1467
01:38:30,010 --> 01:38:30,590
Thank you.

1468
01:38:30,730 --> 01:38:32,150
All members of the paper please say aye.

1469
01:38:33,470 --> 01:38:33,530
Aye.

1470
01:38:33,530 --> 01:38:34,210
Paul say nay.

1471
01:38:35,810 --> 01:38:36,290
Go call.

1472
01:38:36,630 --> 01:38:37,670
Council member Camish.

1473
01:38:38,910 --> 01:38:39,630
Council member Kaiser.

1474
01:38:40,510 --> 01:38:41,750
Council member Vanessa Rosen.

1475
01:38:41,950 --> 01:38:42,190
Aye.

1476
01:38:42,610 --> 01:38:43,330
Mayor Adams.

1477
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:45,410
Council member Budeschevski.

1478
01:38:45,550 --> 01:38:45,750
Aye.

1479
01:38:46,190 --> 01:38:47,150
Council member Cummings.

1480
01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:48,230
Motion pass.

1481
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:50,960
All right.

1482
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:52,340
That's final.

1483
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,760
So just to be clear, thank you very much for your business in Crystal.

1484
01:39:02,500 --> 01:39:03,940
We love you guys here.

1485
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:08,950
Yep.

1486
01:39:10,130 --> 01:39:10,330
Yep.

1487
01:39:10,850 --> 01:39:11,050
Thank you.

1488
01:39:13,890 --> 01:39:14,650
Very nice.

1489
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:19,420
All right.

1490
01:39:22,330 --> 01:39:26,770
Next, the council will consider civil penalties for violation of liquor license.

1491
01:39:27,890 --> 01:39:33,410
Regulations by Northern Tier, retail, DBA, Speedway.

1492
01:39:33,610 --> 01:39:38,350
Look at that, 7818, 36th Avenue of the North.

1493
01:39:39,890 --> 01:39:41,310
Chrissy, I'm just a council.

1494
01:39:41,630 --> 01:39:42,870
Thank you, again, Mayor and council.

1495
01:39:43,930 --> 01:39:48,390
Speedway, store 41-87, located at 7818, 36th Avenue North.

1496
01:39:48,450 --> 01:39:50,630
Also, did not pass the compliance check.

1497
01:39:51,170 --> 01:39:54,230
The employee of the business has pleaded guilty and court to the offense.

1498
01:39:54,230 --> 01:39:58,230
Notice that the violation in tonight's meeting was sent to the licensee in April 26th.

1499
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,860
This is considered a first violation for this licensee. Staff recommends a $750 fine in one day license

1500
01:40:06,860 --> 01:40:11,200
suspension, and there are representatives on behalf of Speedway and the audience tonight.

1501
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:14,220
All right. Thank you. Questions for Chrissy on this one?

1502
01:40:17,230 --> 01:40:18,150
Have they ever had a violation?

1503
01:40:19,610 --> 01:40:20,430
No. Never.

1504
01:40:22,780 --> 01:40:26,780
And that would be, that would be gold back to the name change, right?

1505
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:35,140
I mean, it doesn't go back to the history of the building and like it doesn't go back to like super America, right?

1506
01:40:36,860 --> 01:40:40,520
This owner licensee, yes, this is their first violation.

1507
01:40:42,260 --> 01:40:47,560
They have been northern tier retail LLC for many years to my knowledge.

1508
01:40:48,220 --> 01:40:50,740
That's beyond being a speedway.

1509
01:40:50,740 --> 01:40:57,420
Yes, they're, yes, they're DBA. Yes, and the change of their DBS. Sorry. Well, that's a long time.

1510
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:58,740
All right.

1511
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,740
It's like they're maybe we need clarity on that.

1512
01:41:02,740 --> 01:41:03,640
Don't, right?

1513
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,060
So let's get some clarification.

1514
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:11,580
It's my understanding that Speedway bought out super America.

1515
01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:12,280
Yes.

1516
01:41:12,780 --> 01:41:14,440
It's a different company.

1517
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,000
Correct.

1518
01:41:15,300 --> 01:41:17,500
The licenses remain with the same person.

1519
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:18,100
Yeah, correct.

1520
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:19,120
No, same.

1521
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,920
the same, yeah, same person, but different company.

1522
01:41:23,700 --> 01:41:25,660
Okay, I just want to make sure that.

1523
01:41:25,660 --> 01:41:27,920
So you responded to the person not to the company.

1524
01:41:28,620 --> 01:41:29,040
Is that correct?

1525
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:34,840
I'm responding to the Northern or the interior retail LLC.

1526
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:35,480
Thank you.

1527
01:41:36,260 --> 01:41:36,820
Thank you.

1528
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:37,120
Thank you.

1529
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:37,180
Thank you.

1530
01:41:37,660 --> 01:41:38,780
Thank you.

1531
01:41:38,780 --> 01:41:39,920
I'll just excuse me.

1532
01:41:41,060 --> 01:41:45,260
No, I mean, I don't need to be in bed for 10, 30.

1533
01:41:45,860 --> 01:41:46,200
Jeez.

1534
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:53,640
All right. Any other questions? Seeing none would the licensee please step forward?

1535
01:41:55,790 --> 01:41:57,330
Or are there a rep representation?

1536
01:41:58,730 --> 01:42:03,730
Hi. My name is David Deschenko and I'm from Lavander, Gill and Miller. I represent Northern

1537
01:42:03,730 --> 01:42:09,530
Tier retail LLC that does business as Speedway. I have two Speedway representatives with me,

1538
01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:14,570
Jesse Sindenito, the market leader, and Imran Jaffer in the area leader.

1539
01:42:14,570 --> 01:42:18,930
One, I want to let you know that Speedway takes these violations very seriously.

1540
01:42:19,450 --> 01:42:24,730
After Speedway became aware of this violation, a particular employee was terminated.

1541
01:42:24,930 --> 01:42:26,830
And that's based on company policy.

1542
01:42:27,530 --> 01:42:30,430
Company policy also has numerous other restrictions.

1543
01:42:30,830 --> 01:42:34,290
Number one, you can't sell to people under the age of 21.

1544
01:42:34,910 --> 01:42:36,910
All employees must go through training.

1545
01:42:37,530 --> 01:42:39,890
All employees must certify that they've gone through training.

1546
01:42:40,570 --> 01:42:42,750
They have to take refresher courses every year.

1547
01:42:42,750 --> 01:42:47,070
and the stored leaders must ensure that all the employees have completed their training.

1548
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:54,010
On top of that, if there is a sale to a minor as happened in this case, there is mandatory termination under the policy.

1549
01:42:54,990 --> 01:42:58,610
And just as it happened here, the employee cannot be rehired for one year.

1550
01:42:58,990 --> 01:43:01,990
If they want to be rehired, you need to have the market leader,

1551
01:43:02,470 --> 01:43:05,750
an area leader, and or the vice president approve in writing

1552
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:09,330
to the HR department that they can rehired that individual.

1553
01:43:09,330 --> 01:43:11,750
But again, that person has to wait one year before we hire.

1554
01:43:13,030 --> 01:43:16,030
In addition, speedway contracts with companies to do mystery shoppers.

1555
01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:21,630
So unlike the governmental version, it's a similar version, but hired by a third party.

1556
01:43:22,130 --> 01:43:26,270
And that third party comes into mystery shops on all of the stores to see how they pass.

1557
01:43:26,770 --> 01:43:32,710
And in the past two years, we did a two-year search for, so it may 2022 to make 2024.

1558
01:43:33,250 --> 01:43:39,190
There were six mystery shoppers through third party company that came into the store and passed all six times.

1559
01:43:39,330 --> 01:43:42,350
So they take it very, very seriously.

1560
01:43:42,970 --> 01:43:48,350
After this happened, the manual overwrite button at the register was disabled at the store.

1561
01:43:48,850 --> 01:43:53,290
So what happened in a particular incident, the person came in, they wanted to buy alcohol,

1562
01:43:54,130 --> 01:43:57,970
they gave the identification, the identification was scanned.

1563
01:43:58,450 --> 01:44:03,910
On the scanner, it said, not valid, the employee then did a manual overwrite over that.

1564
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:11,210
And a test of them, it's person's old enough, sold it, and then, of course, was fine, you know, the violation.

1565
01:44:12,810 --> 01:44:18,190
So, the store, in this particular case, they removed that button, which means every single sale of every single

1566
01:44:18,190 --> 01:44:23,610
alcoholic beverage has to go through their system, and if it doesn't go through their system, you can't do a sale.

1567
01:44:24,010 --> 01:44:32,450
So, if you have a person who has an ID from a different jurisdiction, they might be 60 years old, but if for a reason the system doesn't pick it up, you can't have a sale.

1568
01:44:32,450 --> 01:44:34,830
because the system won't allow you to have a sale.

1569
01:44:34,990 --> 01:44:36,870
So the person has to go to a different store.

1570
01:44:37,070 --> 01:44:38,850
They can't go to that speedway.

1571
01:44:39,570 --> 01:44:43,310
Just recently, speedway also disabled the manual overwrite button

1572
01:44:43,310 --> 01:44:45,630
at the other speedway store that's in town.

1573
01:44:45,870 --> 01:44:49,450
Because they don't want to shift people to the other speedway store.

1574
01:44:49,490 --> 01:44:52,190
So both speedway stores have the manual overwriters.

1575
01:44:52,710 --> 01:44:55,770
So if anyone wants to buy alcohol there, no matter your age,

1576
01:44:55,950 --> 01:44:58,850
you have to have your ID and have to go through the system.

1577
01:45:02,740 --> 01:45:12,360
This is our first violation, and speed reass that we would have no license suspension and then pay the $750 fine.

1578
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:17,700
If you have questions, I'm here, representatives are here as well. Any questions for David?

1579
01:45:18,340 --> 01:45:33,320
I just have a question. So, other businesses, when I bought alcohol in this city, you just show the back of your license and they scan it and they don't ever verify that you're who's on that license.

1580
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:38,460
What is the policy for Speedway in that situation? Do you actually look at the front to to verify?

1581
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:54,240
If you're going to speak please come up to the microphone. That way we can hear you better. Plus people.

1582
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:56,560
Can you repeat that please?

1583
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,440
Yes, so they are required to verify the photo that it is the individual that is purchasing the product.

1584
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:11,120
And they also have to check for expiration, but the software program will not allow the sale to go through if it is expired or on the 21st.

1585
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:11,520
Now,

1586
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:14,760
thank you.

1587
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:16,220
Any other questions?

1588
01:46:19,390 --> 01:46:19,950
Just have a comment.

1589
01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:25,090
So, the individual, you know, obviously overwrote this particular sale.

1590
01:46:25,370 --> 01:46:29,410
And it sounds like they had pretty good knowledge on how to do it.

1591
01:46:29,410 --> 01:46:37,070
And so again, it goes back to my comment of them enabling underage sales to happen at your

1592
01:46:37,070 --> 01:46:37,670
location.

1593
01:46:38,050 --> 01:46:42,230
Even though you have the mystery shoppers, even though you have the so-called void going

1594
01:46:42,230 --> 01:46:42,930
on.

1595
01:46:43,250 --> 01:46:50,650
I mean, to me, it looks, with our compliance checks, it shows us that there's been a lot

1596
01:46:51,610 --> 01:46:54,810
of illegal sales that have been happening at this location.

1597
01:46:55,410 --> 01:46:56,050
And so great.

1598
01:46:56,050 --> 01:47:00,930
We, you know, I understand your point for like, you know, you've made change is going forward.

1599
01:47:01,790 --> 01:47:05,250
But I do think that you need to be responsible for what has happened in the past.

1600
01:47:05,470 --> 01:47:13,110
And I, and to the council, I would say that we give a $750 fine and a one day suspension in this case.

1601
01:47:14,170 --> 01:47:14,430
So.

1602
01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:16,410
Thank you.

1603
01:47:16,750 --> 01:47:17,530
You may sit down.

1604
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:25,450
I'd like to make a motion that we impose a penalty based on the findings of $750 with no suspension.

1605
01:47:25,450 --> 01:47:27,290
and looking for a second on that.

1606
01:47:27,410 --> 01:47:28,790
Taji, I'll second that.

1607
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:30,470
All members in favor, please say aye.

1608
01:47:30,750 --> 01:47:31,050
Aye.

1609
01:47:31,050 --> 01:47:31,930
I'll say nay.

1610
01:47:32,130 --> 01:47:32,430
nay.

1611
01:47:32,930 --> 01:47:33,090
Ocean.

1612
01:47:33,870 --> 01:47:35,070
Well, let's do real call.

1613
01:47:35,370 --> 01:47:36,210
Compton, number Kaiser.

1614
01:47:36,870 --> 01:47:37,050
Aye.

1615
01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:38,810
Compton, number Vanessa Rosen.

1616
01:47:39,010 --> 01:47:39,210
Aye.

1617
01:47:39,570 --> 01:47:40,310
Mayor Adams.

1618
01:47:40,630 --> 01:47:40,790
Aye.

1619
01:47:41,190 --> 01:47:42,170
Compton, number Buddhist Sheski.

1620
01:47:42,730 --> 01:47:42,950
nay.

1621
01:47:43,330 --> 01:47:44,190
Compton, number Cummings.

1622
01:47:44,270 --> 01:47:44,490
Aye.

1623
01:47:45,130 --> 01:47:45,890
Compton, number Cummings.

1624
01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:48,530
Motion passes five to one.

1625
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:49,210
All right.

1626
01:47:49,710 --> 01:47:50,230
Thank you.

1627
01:47:51,070 --> 01:47:51,930
Thank you for coming in.

1628
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:52,230
Thank you.

1629
01:47:52,250 --> 01:47:53,290
We appreciate it.

1630
01:48:08,340 --> 01:48:10,060
Exit, council will consider civil penalties

1631
01:48:10,060 --> 01:48:18,560
for the same violation we've been talking about all night for VFW post 494, our city.

1632
01:48:19,020 --> 01:48:20,560
Clerk again, we'll adjust the council on this issue.

1633
01:48:20,980 --> 01:48:22,140
Thank you again, Mayor and Council.

1634
01:48:22,580 --> 01:48:28,660
Lastly, the VFW located at 52 22, 56 Avenue north that not pass the alcohol compliance

1635
01:48:28,660 --> 01:48:29,340
check.

1636
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,000
The employee of the business has played a guilty and court to the offense.

1637
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:38,000
Notice that a violation in tonight's meeting was sent to the licensee in April 26th.

1638
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:44,180
This is considered a first violation for this licensee staff is recommending a $750 fine

1639
01:48:44,180 --> 01:48:49,660
in a one-day license suspension and representatives of the VFWR in attendance tonight.

1640
01:48:50,420 --> 01:48:56,140
Thank you, Chrissy. Any questions on this one for staff for Chrissy?

1641
01:48:57,860 --> 01:49:03,300
Seeing none, we will move to the licensee step forward, please.

1642
01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:05,340
I'm please state your name.

1643
01:49:05,900 --> 01:49:06,840
Jean Berdick.

1644
01:49:07,260 --> 01:49:07,940
Jean Berdick.

1645
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:09,580
All right.

1646
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,280
Did you wish to have a formal hearing or did you help?

1647
01:49:15,220 --> 01:49:17,640
Our employee has already been a court paper file.

1648
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:18,320
OK.

1649
01:49:18,700 --> 01:49:19,800
Thank you.

1650
01:49:21,380 --> 01:49:25,920
Are there any questions from the Citi Council for Jean?

1651
01:49:28,050 --> 01:49:32,690
I know that you guys go through the training here with the city, correct?

1652
01:49:32,690 --> 01:49:36,610
We have a training at least once a year with the police.

1653
01:49:36,850 --> 01:49:44,470
They come in and hold up alcohol awareness and tobacco training for all of our employees who are working.

1654
01:49:45,150 --> 01:49:48,230
And then we ask them to come back and catch up on them with those employees.

1655
01:49:49,070 --> 01:49:55,070
But we've passed it around the community that they can show up there when we hold the training.

1656
01:49:55,490 --> 01:49:59,970
And we've told the police officers that they wish to hold another training on their own.

1657
01:50:02,140 --> 01:50:15,340
And then what other safeguards you have in place too? We haven't clocked up heard by the bar that shows what date you can serve to a person.

1658
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:28,600
She knows instantly that she did wrong. I'm not here to make excuses for. She's been there 15 years. She's very good. She knows she made a mistake.

1659
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:39,480
It was the end of her shift, very busy, normally she checks all the IDs and I didn't realize

1660
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:50,240
all the little checkpoints on IDs and if there are until I went to this class and they

1661
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:55,160
always ask for IDs and if the ID doesn't look right, they won't serve the person.

1662
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:58,480
So, that's all I have to say.

1663
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:00,320
We do a lot for the community, so.

1664
01:51:00,820 --> 01:51:01,260
True.

1665
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:02,400
We try to.

1666
01:51:02,540 --> 01:51:05,140
And I'm not making excuses for what happened.

1667
01:51:05,420 --> 01:51:05,800
It happened.

1668
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,200
We have talks about always all the time about that.

1669
01:51:10,540 --> 01:51:11,520
And that's to be the dead horse.

1670
01:51:11,540 --> 01:51:13,780
But we're asking you to partner with us to make sure

1671
01:51:13,780 --> 01:51:16,760
that underage individuals and not receive.

1672
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:18,220
Yeah, that's their goal.

1673
01:51:21,020 --> 01:51:23,080
So, I mean, there's a culture issue.

1674
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:24,700
I mean, that needs to change.

1675
01:51:24,700 --> 01:51:26,080
No, yes.

1676
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:33,700
All right, any other questions, comments?

1677
01:51:34,940 --> 01:51:35,480
Go ahead.

1678
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,960
So this employee, Julie, she's still an employee?

1679
01:51:39,220 --> 01:51:39,540
Yes.

1680
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:45,520
Has there, did she have any sort of disciplinary action

1681
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:46,960
against her from you guys?

1682
01:51:47,380 --> 01:51:47,840
No.

1683
01:51:49,780 --> 01:51:51,060
Well, she's been there 15 years.

1684
01:51:51,260 --> 01:51:53,480
We've had never had a problem before.

1685
01:51:57,650 --> 01:51:57,790
Right.

1686
01:51:57,990 --> 01:51:58,750
Any other questions?

1687
01:51:58,750 --> 01:51:59,530
This

1688
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:18,640
was, I'm the question I asked was what day was, was this done on, thank you, you may sit down.

1689
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:22,420
Don't we sit down?

1690
01:52:23,460 --> 01:52:24,500
Was this Saturday?

1691
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:25,800
Last chair.

1692
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:26,860
Is this Saturday?

1693
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,420
Middle of the afternoon, maybe.

1694
01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:30,320
Actually, that's a typo on.

1695
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,320
All right.

1696
01:52:41,310 --> 01:52:42,430
Any discussion?

1697
01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:44,710
Seeing none looking for motion?

1698
01:52:45,730 --> 01:52:56,210
Make a motion that based on the staff report, including the findings contained therein and the other information presented regarding this matter that a penalty of $750 be imposed in this case.

1699
01:52:56,450 --> 01:52:58,210
For a second?

1700
01:52:58,910 --> 01:52:58,950
David?

1701
01:52:59,590 --> 01:53:00,430
I'll second that.

1702
01:53:01,250 --> 01:53:03,210
All members in favor, please say aye.

1703
01:53:04,690 --> 01:53:04,730
Aye.

1704
01:53:04,730 --> 01:53:05,410
Polls in aye.

1705
01:53:06,970 --> 01:53:07,150
Please.

1706
01:53:07,970 --> 01:53:08,410
Excuse me.

1707
01:53:08,630 --> 01:53:09,710
Conson number one, Esther Rosen.

1708
01:53:10,690 --> 01:53:11,430
Mayor Adams.

1709
01:53:12,450 --> 01:53:12,570
Aye.

1710
01:53:13,090 --> 01:53:14,570
Council member Bootisheski.

1711
01:53:14,650 --> 01:53:14,910
Nate.

1712
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:16,530
Council member Cummings.

1713
01:53:16,750 --> 01:53:16,790
Aye.

1714
01:53:17,710 --> 01:53:18,590
Council member Camish.

1715
01:53:19,810 --> 01:53:20,510
Council member Kaiser.

1716
01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:23,130
Motion passes.

1717
01:53:23,870 --> 01:53:24,330
All right.

1718
01:53:26,190 --> 01:53:30,590
And I too want to thank the BFF of you for their partnership in the community.

1719
01:53:31,450 --> 01:53:34,170
I am very aware of what you do in our community.

1720
01:53:34,650 --> 01:53:36,190
Thank you so much.

1721
01:53:36,930 --> 01:53:39,010
We value you in our community.

1722
01:53:39,310 --> 01:53:42,010
Plus all the extra stuff that happens with you guys.

1723
01:53:42,010 --> 01:53:42,990
Thank you.

1724
01:53:44,050 --> 01:53:46,090
All right.

1725
01:53:56,330 --> 01:53:56,910
Those.

1726
01:53:57,290 --> 01:53:57,610
Wow.

1727
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:58,870
All schools.

1728
01:54:00,190 --> 01:54:02,030
Thank you.

1729
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:02,590
Thank you.

1730
01:54:02,790 --> 01:54:08,390
Next, the council will consider a resolution awarding a contract for a construction of

1731
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:13,850
hard surfaces towards the alleys park and parking lot in North Lines Park.

1732
01:54:14,310 --> 01:54:17,590
Our recreation director just passed out with the slides for us.

1733
01:54:17,650 --> 01:54:18,270
Thank you, John.

1734
01:54:18,830 --> 01:54:18,970
Welcome.

1735
01:54:18,970 --> 01:54:22,170
Well, good evening Mr. Mayor and Council members.

1736
01:54:23,090 --> 01:54:24,930
We're here with the paper copies of a presentation.

1737
01:54:26,130 --> 01:54:31,890
But we move this week to North Lines Park and Valley Place Park.

1738
01:54:34,090 --> 01:54:38,810
And at Valley Place Park, we have, we'll be replacing the three tennis courts.

1739
01:54:39,470 --> 01:54:41,910
Moving the basketball court adjacent to the tennis courts.

1740
01:54:42,350 --> 01:54:45,330
New fancy around all courts and new trail connections.

1741
01:54:45,330 --> 01:54:50,490
and we went out for bid for this, there is lighting involved as well and that is actually

1742
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:51,790
item 7.8.

1743
01:54:52,630 --> 01:54:56,050
So, the bid item is one item and the lighting is a second item.

1744
01:54:57,670 --> 01:54:59,970
For in the North Lines Park, we do have...

1745
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:16,480
Planning and improving the West parking lot and neutral connections at that park. And then, additional work, this was not part of the bid, was removing the parking lot, removing the existing volleyball tennis courts, and then putting some new volleyball stands in that hockey ring.

1746
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:26,340
So the bid items were for what's indicated there. We were here on March 19, seeking approval of going out for bid.

1747
01:55:26,340 --> 01:55:32,900
advertisements were placed on March 28th and April 4th with bids being opened in April 8th

1748
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:40,140
and we're here tonight for approval of the bid agreement. The plan here, once all the paperwork is done,

1749
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:47,860
as they would start probably mid-June and then be done by October. The goal when you're

1750
01:55:47,860 --> 01:55:55,160
doing tennis courts is that the paint needs to be put on before it gets cold so that's usually

1751
01:55:55,160 --> 01:56:00,820
september thing, and the pavement has to cure for 30 days before you paint it. So the

1752
01:56:00,820 --> 01:56:06,880
paving needs to be done in August sometimes so we cannot back track that. But then there's

1753
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:10,040
some restoration of things that will happen and back would go in October.

1754
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,320
On the next slide,

1755
01:56:13,460 --> 01:56:19,240
you can see the bid results, the two minutes roadways, came with a low bid, which was significantly

1756
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:24,260
lower than our engineers estimate. So we're pleased with that.

1757
01:56:29,170 --> 01:56:30,310
And so yeah so that's where

1758
01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:36,370
item 7.7 that's those bit items. Then the next slide is the court lighting and we can

1759
01:56:36,370 --> 01:56:42,510
purchase the light through musco sports lighting. We have the musco system in crystal so

1760
01:56:42,510 --> 01:56:49,910
Brad and some other staff can control the light from their phone. So if there's a group

1761
01:56:49,910 --> 01:56:52,670
Using it, and somehow it gives a missed to have a mind,

1762
01:56:52,830 --> 01:56:55,730
they can control them, and so it's a city-wide

1763
01:56:55,730 --> 01:56:58,530
system of lighting, so we use that musco system.

1764
01:57:00,270 --> 01:57:02,350
And that can be, like I say, purchased through source

1765
01:57:02,350 --> 01:57:02,890
well.

1766
01:57:04,030 --> 01:57:05,910
Kilmer electric is a local company,

1767
01:57:06,330 --> 01:57:09,010
and they are one of the preferred installers

1768
01:57:09,010 --> 01:57:11,910
of the musco system, because it's a little different way

1769
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:13,010
of installing them.

1770
01:57:13,090 --> 01:57:15,250
Typically, when you do like light poles and parking lots,

1771
01:57:16,270 --> 01:57:18,390
you do the tube, and you pour the concrete in it.

1772
01:57:18,390 --> 01:57:23,630
The musco system, the pull comes with the base, all attached, and so they put it all on

1773
01:57:23,630 --> 01:57:25,610
piece, and it's a little bit different process.

1774
01:57:26,710 --> 01:57:29,990
So Kilmer has done all of our recent lighting for sports lighting.

1775
01:57:33,250 --> 01:57:42,670
So the two items, then, if we look at combined 7.7 and 7.8, the budget for the two projects

1776
01:57:42,670 --> 01:57:48,630
This is 890,000, and the projects in the buildings fund are one is in the parks fund.

1777
01:57:49,930 --> 01:57:56,230
This includes the design and bid process, so we had W's B preparing the plans, and that

1778
01:57:56,230 --> 01:57:58,450
we were here in December for that.

1779
01:57:59,010 --> 01:58:05,230
The court and parking lot construction, which is 7.7, is 429,363,665.

1780
01:58:05,610 --> 01:58:10,130
Court lighting, which is agenda item 7.8, is the 105,300.

1781
01:58:10,710 --> 01:58:23,190
So, the total of all of that is 601, so budget 890 and then the actual cost and it's 601 and 927 and 65, so under budget.

1782
01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:27,350
So, the recommendation tonight is to enter into contracts.

1783
01:58:27,770 --> 01:58:30,590
Just take them one at a time, I guess, 7.7.

1784
01:58:30,870 --> 01:58:36,030
Enter into agreement with the two men as a roadways in the amount of 429 and 363 65

1785
01:58:36,030 --> 01:58:41,010
or improvements to the hard surface courts in Valley Place Park and the west parking lot in North

1786
01:58:41,010 --> 01:58:41,750
Lines Park.

1787
01:58:43,750 --> 01:58:43,910
All right.

1788
01:58:44,270 --> 01:58:45,150
Thank you.

1789
01:58:51,410 --> 01:58:51,710
Please.

1790
01:58:52,750 --> 01:58:53,210
Please.

1791
01:58:53,210 --> 01:58:53,230
Please.

1792
01:58:53,670 --> 01:58:53,990
Please.

1793
01:58:55,690 --> 01:59:02,310
the gas pump court is going to be moved to, that afternoon is under water, and there's water there now.

1794
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:10,610
Yeah, so the vastible court will be just like we have a becker park where it's basketball, and then the three or

1795
01:59:10,610 --> 01:59:13,970
at becker, it's the pickleball court, so you'll put into one area.

1796
01:59:14,810 --> 01:59:16,590
So instead of being stuck around the whole thing.

1797
01:59:19,050 --> 01:59:25,670
So we did the master plan back in 2017, a call for the basketball court to be moved on the other

1798
01:59:25,670 --> 01:59:29,930
side of the tennis courts, and shortly after we did that plan, we talked to some of the

1799
01:59:29,930 --> 01:59:34,850
neighbors over there, and they really were not pleased with that idea. So this is kind

1800
01:59:34,850 --> 01:59:39,290
of a compromise moving away from the playground where we heard a lot of people don't like

1801
01:59:39,290 --> 01:59:44,590
having basketball right next to playgrounds. And so it moves away from the playground, but then

1802
01:59:44,590 --> 01:59:49,450
also keeps it on, that's the playground side of the play of the tennis courts.

1803
01:59:49,450 --> 01:59:51,030
Okay. Thank you.

1804
01:59:51,090 --> 01:59:52,510
Mm-hmm.

1805
01:59:52,670 --> 01:59:52,830
Sorry.

1806
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:58,430
When are we doing the parking lot of value place?

1807
01:59:59,510 --> 01:59:59,970
We are not...

1808
02:00:04,420 --> 02:00:19,300
So we're going to do the one by the playground and there we're doing some street reconstruction. And so some of the parking lot is used for that to restore materials. So we just delayed that.

1809
02:00:19,300 --> 02:00:27,020
to next year. I think next year we're going to go on top of the hill and then do that one

1810
02:00:27,020 --> 02:00:33,400
and then the following year come back. Okay so we want I just curious and then also curious

1811
02:00:34,020 --> 02:00:41,040
as a former tennis player have we considered putting like a wall on the fence for kind of an individual

1812
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:45,920
to hit against once the new fence and courts are up?

1813
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:52,560
We, I know that was talked about at one point, but then it was not included, so I don't

1814
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:53,580
recall exactly.

1815
02:00:54,740 --> 02:00:59,380
If there's not the extra space to add something like that, a lot of times those are, you

1816
02:00:59,380 --> 02:01:04,780
have a little bit of extra room and you put that off to the side, put that.

1817
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:09,540
And that, you know, we're putting up a fence, so at some point if that's a desire we could

1818
02:01:09,540 --> 02:01:10,360
look into that.

1819
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:11,460
Thank you.

1820
02:01:12,830 --> 02:01:19,250
So, as a pickleball player, I'm wondering if you'd ever switch games, you know, I can do ball

1821
02:01:19,250 --> 02:01:20,150
if I be the...

1822
02:01:20,930 --> 02:01:21,650
It can't.

1823
02:01:22,790 --> 02:01:25,030
That's where they're great on the pickleball curve.

1824
02:01:25,710 --> 02:01:26,970
It transfers quite well.

1825
02:01:28,230 --> 02:01:28,490
Go ahead.

1826
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:29,890
Just a couple of comments.

1827
02:01:30,330 --> 02:01:31,310
The North Lion's Park.

1828
02:01:31,670 --> 02:01:36,710
I feel like that parking lot has been in rough shape for a while, so that'll be good

1829
02:01:36,710 --> 02:01:37,410
to get that fixed.

1830
02:01:37,790 --> 02:01:40,850
Then I'm just intrigued about the summer volleyball, because it's an, like, boys volleyball

1831
02:01:40,850 --> 02:01:43,370
all the things, so it'd be interesting to see how much use that gets in.

1832
02:01:43,530 --> 02:01:46,210
It's a good use for a summer or for an ice ring.

1833
02:01:46,530 --> 02:01:50,730
Yeah, so there's a lot of volleyball on the hard surface there, and we talked to the guys

1834
02:01:50,730 --> 02:01:54,530
that play there, and they say, if you like, sand or do like the hard surface, and they like

1835
02:01:54,530 --> 02:02:02,410
the hard surface, but the tennis courts there are really in bad shape, so kind of getting

1836
02:02:02,410 --> 02:02:08,730
that out of the picture is part of this plan, and then doing something better in the hockey

1837
02:02:08,730 --> 02:02:10,330
All right, it's got it, it's fine.

1838
02:02:13,850 --> 02:02:15,130
All right, any further questions?

1839
02:02:18,780 --> 02:02:19,260
They're going to be touching.

1840
02:02:19,380 --> 02:02:22,100
The summer volleyball inside the hockey ring.

1841
02:02:22,220 --> 02:02:25,840
Does that just include lines?

1842
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,800
Or are you going to, are there holes that are going to be up?

1843
02:02:28,880 --> 02:02:29,700
We're going to, that look like.

1844
02:02:30,940 --> 02:02:33,020
So if you look, I think we back at least made one.

1845
02:02:33,020 --> 02:02:33,720
I was a kid.

1846
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,220
You had the tires with the concrete and the pole.

1847
02:02:37,420 --> 02:02:40,060
It's a nice diversion of that with more concrete

1848
02:02:40,060 --> 02:02:42,040
that we'll move in with heavy equipment

1849
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:47,540
and in place them and then the other reliance on the concrete as well for that.

1850
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:49,360
Got it. Cool.

1851
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:49,920
Okay.

1852
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:51,020
That's it.

1853
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,320
You left yourself that wide open and everybody passed.

1854
02:02:55,980 --> 02:02:58,540
Well, you like you know you.

1855
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:00,160
Any other questions?

1856
02:03:02,660 --> 02:03:03,660
All right, looking for motion.

1857
02:03:06,180 --> 02:03:06,320
Tracy.

1858
02:03:07,420 --> 02:03:13,820
I will make a motion to adopt the resolution to a word of contract for her

1859
02:03:13,820 --> 02:03:17,820
It's Surface Court Improvements and Valley Park Place,

1860
02:03:18,260 --> 02:03:20,180
Valley Police Park, and West Parking Lot

1861
02:03:20,180 --> 02:03:22,060
Improvements in North Lyon's Park.

1862
02:03:22,900 --> 02:03:24,000
All right, looking for a second.

1863
02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:25,480
Three?

1864
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:26,680
A second, that.

1865
02:03:27,580 --> 02:03:29,420
All right, well, members in favor, please say aye.

1866
02:03:29,500 --> 02:03:29,900
Aye.

1867
02:03:30,420 --> 02:03:31,400
Both say nay.

1868
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:34,200
No, we agree on something.

1869
02:03:35,540 --> 02:03:37,560
I appreciate the no role call.

1870
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:40,240
Yeah, you and I both.

1871
02:03:42,900 --> 02:03:45,640
The second part of that is 7.8.

1872
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,040
And you've done all you're talking on that one, right?

1873
02:03:48,380 --> 02:03:48,760
Correct.

1874
02:03:49,300 --> 02:03:50,860
Any questions on that one?

1875
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:51,620
Seeing none.

1876
02:03:51,940 --> 02:03:51,960
Tracy.

1877
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:58,300
I will make a motion to adopt a resolution to approve the purchase and installation of a lighting

1878
02:03:58,300 --> 02:04:01,560
system for the hard surface courts in Valley, please park.

1879
02:04:02,180 --> 02:04:02,440
All right.

1880
02:04:02,900 --> 02:04:03,680
For a second.

1881
02:04:04,140 --> 02:04:06,540
I will second that.

1882
02:04:07,060 --> 02:04:08,540
Members in favor please say aye.

1883
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:12,480
Thank you.

1884
02:04:12,580 --> 02:04:12,640
Yeah.

1885
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:13,260
Thank you.

1886
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:18,840
So we do have a couple announcements to accommodate Crystal Residence, participating

1887
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:19,740
on Nomay.

1888
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:24,560
The city waits until June 1st to begin along grass enforcement.

1889
02:04:24,900 --> 02:04:30,740
The city council will work session on Thursday, May 9th at 630 in the conference room

1890
02:04:30,740 --> 02:04:31,760
A at City Hall.

1891
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:34,340
It's also available for via Zoom.

1892
02:04:34,340 --> 02:04:41,020
Friends of the Crystal Park Plan Cale is Saturday, May 18 from 9am to 1pm.

1893
02:04:41,220 --> 02:04:42,220
That's at Dr. Park.

1894
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:46,720
And the next council meeting is Tuesday, May 21, 7pm.

1895
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:50,580
Here, council chambers at Seahaw and it's also available on via Zoom.

1896
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:54,320
Council meetings and work sessions are available for listening and viewing.

1897
02:04:54,940 --> 02:04:56,940
At Crystal and at com.

1898
02:04:57,120 --> 02:04:57,360
Go.

1899
02:04:58,360 --> 02:04:58,740
Excuse me.

1900
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,000
Any other announcements?

1901
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:02,680
Yes.

1902
02:05:03,340 --> 02:05:11,060
I had two quick things to say. First, I will let the council give force the hard time, not being here tonight.

1903
02:05:11,700 --> 02:05:13,240
Created the even number of votes.

1904
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:17,680
He was originally planning on attending remotely, so we set that up.

1905
02:05:17,900 --> 02:05:22,080
We were required the full full votes, but we got a conflict that came up.

1906
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:23,100
I mean, it's traveling.

1907
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:28,080
The second thing, I had the honor, the privilege yesterday, too.

1908
02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:33,260
I've gone to Rochester to attend the Minnesota Association of Women Police

1909
02:05:33,260 --> 02:05:41,740
Award ceremony and our chief revering received the leadership award for 2023.

1910
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:47,780
The whole state, so I just want to commend her on that and recognize her.

1911
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:49,220
Can I ask one question, Chief?

1912
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:50,720
Do you get like a big belt?

1913
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,780
I should, right?

1914
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:55,360
Champion, right?

1915
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:55,980
Yeah.

1916
02:05:56,540 --> 02:05:57,620
In the TRR.

1917
02:05:57,780 --> 02:05:58,260
TRR.

1918
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,140
I would love to share with you.

1919
02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:01,620
Thank you.

1920
02:06:01,900 --> 02:06:02,980
Adam, appreciate it.

1921
02:06:03,700 --> 02:06:07,260
If you don't mind, Mayor, I would be remiss if I didn't talk about police week.

1922
02:06:07,380 --> 02:06:08,020
Just really quick.

1923
02:06:08,220 --> 02:06:08,520
Two seconds.

1924
02:06:09,180 --> 02:06:09,200
Sure.

1925
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:10,360
Thank you for the proclamation.

1926
02:06:10,580 --> 02:06:10,960
You welcome.

1927
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:15,500
As you know, normally deputy chief Brian Humberd is here with me during council meetings.

1928
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:19,900
And tonight, the reason he wasn't here is because a

1929
02:06:19,900 --> 02:06:24,540
Burnsville captain who retired three weeks prior to their shootings down there passed away

1930
02:06:24,540 --> 02:06:25,280
in his sleep.

1931
02:06:25,820 --> 02:06:30,620
And so Brian being the president of Lima, the law enforcement moral association was dealing

1932
02:06:30,620 --> 02:06:31,580
with that in the family.

1933
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:38,420
And I bring that up because, as you know, we lost two police officers and a paramedic firefighter

1934
02:06:38,420 --> 02:06:39,420
not that long ago.

1935
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:47,700
And it's been me, unfortunately, the largest amount of criminal assaults on law enforcement

1936
02:06:47,700 --> 02:06:48,780
in the last two years.

1937
02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:54,580
And so I say that only because I'm very grateful that that has not happened here in Crystal and hopefully never will.

1938
02:06:55,260 --> 02:07:00,400
But to commend you for honoring please week and that's why it's really matters that we do, so thank you for doing that.

1939
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:05,760
And to honor Deputy Chief Hubbard for his work and when he does every day with Lima, so that's it.

1940
02:07:05,940 --> 02:07:06,660
Thank you.

1941
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:08,780
Well, we want to thank you.

1942
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:15,700
We have, we've seriously seen some extremely good leadership through your whole command staff.

1943
02:07:15,700 --> 02:07:23,440
We thank you for yours. Obviously, this is well-deserved in my opinion. I think I speak for everyone on the council

1944
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:27,750
So thank you for your dedication. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your leadership and

1945
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,180
Congratulations. Thank you for sharing it.

1946
02:07:39,370 --> 02:07:39,830
Yeah

1947
02:07:39,830 --> 02:07:41,510
Aren't you supposed to shake her hand

1948
02:07:46,050 --> 02:07:46,970
All right

1949
02:07:46,970 --> 02:07:48,490
with that, I moved for a German.

1950
02:07:49,230 --> 02:07:49,630
So moved.

1951
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:50,590
Is he second?

1952
02:07:51,850 --> 02:07:52,950
No, I moved for a German.

1953
02:07:53,150 --> 02:07:53,850
You asked for him.

1954
02:07:53,990 --> 02:07:55,050
No, I moved for that.

1955
02:07:56,090 --> 02:07:56,990
Are you going to second?

1956
02:07:57,130 --> 02:07:57,970
Anybody else want to second?

1957
02:07:59,190 --> 02:07:59,790
I'm going to second.

1958
02:07:59,850 --> 02:08:01,030
All right, thanks, please.

1959
02:08:01,370 --> 02:08:02,910
All members of Facebook, please say aye.

1960
02:08:03,050 --> 02:08:03,450
Aye.

1961
02:08:03,630 --> 02:08:04,370
Please say aye.

1962
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:05,410
Motion carries.

1963
02:08:06,590 --> 02:08:07,030
He's numerous.

1964
02:08:07,330 --> 02:08:07,730
Wow.