1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Good evening, and welcome 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 to the Environmental Impact 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Commission. 4 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Today is Wednesday, February 5 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 11th, it's 7 o'clock, 6 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 so I can get roll call 7 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 from my right. 8 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Jeff Harreld. 9 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Gary Dufill. 10 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Christina Brenn. 11 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,000 John Schwartz. 12 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Elizabeth Falk. 13 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Matt Rose. 14 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 And Jeff, if you can lead us 15 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 in pledge. Please. 16 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Please rise if you're able. 17 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I pledge allegiance 18 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 to the flag of the United 19 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 States of America, and to the 20 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Republic for which it stands, 21 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 one nation, under God, 22 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 indivisible, 23 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 with liberty and justice 24 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 for all. 25 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 The members of the last meeting 26 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 that were here can vote 27 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 on the minutes, go ahead. 28 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 I make a motion we accept the 29 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 minutes from January 28th. 30 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 I'll second that. 31 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 All those in favor? 32 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Aye. 33 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Opposed? 34 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Thank you. 35 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 The next meeting is February 36 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 25th, and the first reading 37 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 of the activity is item 1261, 38 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 134 Chambers Road, the 39 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 applicant here. 40 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Hi I'm Abigail Varga. 41 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 And I am Brooke Clark. 42 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 We're from Brooke Clark 43 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Landscape Architects. 44 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 And we are the agent for 134 45 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Chambers Road. 46 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 The property is a 7.9 acre 47 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 zoned in RA40. 48 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 It has an existing brook that 49 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 bisects the property 50 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 with the majority 51 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 of the property 52 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 on the far side 53 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 of the brook being wetlands. 54 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,000 There are some existing 55 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 wetlands also on this side 56 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 of the brook close 57 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 to the home. 58 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 And it's located in the 59 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Paternarum Brook Watershed. 60 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Existing or proposed activity 61 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 includes the demolition 62 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,000 of an existing 63 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 above ground pool, the removal 64 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,400 of an existing terrace, 65 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 removal of an existing shed, 66 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 and the relocation of a septic 67 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,400 pump and septic tank. 68 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Proposed mitigation measures 69 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 include holding an average 70 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 of a 10 to 15 foot buffer 71 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 from the wetland line 72 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 on this side of the brook. 73 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,400 The demarcation is utilizing 74 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 the pool enclosure fence. 75 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 And beyond that, where needed, 76 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 it is demarcated 77 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 through boulders. 78 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 And then beyond that, between 79 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 the demarcation line and the 80 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 brook would be no mow, 81 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 fine fescue. 82 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Some erosion has occurred along 83 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 the bank alongside the brook. 84 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 At critical areas, 85 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 we are proposing boulders set 86 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 in grade 87 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 with native planting. 88 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 And certain more critical 89 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 areas, we're proposing a 90 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 fieldstone wall. 91 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,000 There's an existing footbridge 92 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 that we are proposing 93 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 to rehabilitate 94 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,400 with added concrete footings. 95 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 And we're just holding a mown 96 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 lawn footpath 97 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 to that bridge. 98 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Oh, so the proposed barn is a 99 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 20 by 20 with an added lean-to 100 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 on the rear. 101 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,000 And that is held in the same 102 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 location as the existing shed. 103 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 No tree removal 104 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 in the wetlands is occurring. 105 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 There's one small ornamental 106 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 tree located 107 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 between the terrace, the 108 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,000 existing terrace and the house 109 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 that's to be removed. 110 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 And I think that's it. 111 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Yes, as a matter of fact, I was 112 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 the sanitarian that was working 113 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 on the 100% replacement area. 114 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,000 So I did the test holes 115 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 with the engineering company, 116 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 which is far enough removed as 117 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 it is because they're a 118 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,000 swimming pool and it needs 119 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 to be a B100. 120 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 And the B100 is, 121 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 they're asking for permission 122 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 for us 123 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,000 to accept that as well. 124 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 The site, 125 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 like the applicant has stated, 126 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 the site is seven and a half 127 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 acres and they're really 128 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 primarily just working 129 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 on everything that's in the 130 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 front and the areas that have 131 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,400 already been an active, 132 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 the active part 133 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 of the home site. 134 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000 The stabilization of the stream 135 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 bank was something that we 136 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 discussed when we walked, 137 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 saying that there are some 138 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 definite erosion measures and 139 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 they actually located them and 140 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 they're showing what needs to 141 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 be done. 142 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I know that we can go 143 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 out there. 144 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 We should go out there and take 145 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 a look because even though 146 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 there may be snow cover, 147 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 it's very fairly evident of 148 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 where everything is going so 149 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 that we can see it. 150 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,600 I know that it's been brought 151 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 to my attention by one of the 152 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 commissioners that the invasive 153 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 species removal that's 154 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 on there, that all invasive 155 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 species should be bagged and 156 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 removed from the site, not 157 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 stockpiled or placed anyplace 158 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,000 else so that we don't spread 159 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 them around. 160 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,000 It's just put it in 161 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 with the trash, thank you. 162 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,000 As well as there's a lot of 163 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 down debris that you're 164 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 referring to. 165 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000 We need to maintain some 166 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 critter habitat, please, so we 167 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 can discuss that as we're there 168 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 and we can look 169 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 at it when the commissioners go 170 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 out and look at it. 171 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,000 I do recommend that if you go 172 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 out there that you can just 173 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 obviously introduce yourselves 174 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 and if you want me there 175 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 with you, I can, 176 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 and take a look 177 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 at it. 178 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 I do have to admit, the 179 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 planting plan and everything 180 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 that they did, 181 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,000 everything is list 182 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 of species, the list of cost, I 183 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 mean we can do bond estimates 184 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 right from the thing, it's 185 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 very, job well done ladies, 186 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 thank you very much. 187 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 We appreciate that. 188 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,000 It's very complete, it is 189 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 definitely a good application 190 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 and I look forward 191 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 for making it work. 192 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Thank you. 193 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Yeah, maybe there's a question 194 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 for you Larry. 195 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,400 The stream bank stabilization, 196 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 I haven't been out there. 197 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 They show some boulders, 198 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,400 they show some walls. 199 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,000 There's not a lot of detail 200 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 on that, how high the wall is 201 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,000 and all that. 202 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Is there enough information 203 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,000 for you 204 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 to know what's going on? 205 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 That is a question that we're 206 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,000 going to, that is a question 207 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 that was going to be asked 208 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 in the staff report 209 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 in between, and yeah, I do need 210 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 a little bit more detail 211 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 about the wall specifically, 212 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,000 especially if the wall is 213 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 going, especially wall height, 214 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 because if it's 215 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,000 over three feet, it needs 216 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 to be designed 217 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,000 by a professional engineer. 218 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 The scouring areas where they 219 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 are and where they're going 220 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 to place the boulders for, 221 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,000 well it's really not placing 222 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 boulders, it's kind 223 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 of armor plating, some 224 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 of where the scour is 225 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 from the meander 226 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 of the stream, I mean that's 227 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 fairly evident and that detail 228 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,400 is in their stabilization, 229 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 but you're right, the wall 230 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 needs a little bit more 231 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,400 fine-tuning and that's, I'm 232 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 sure that will be asked and 233 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 answered 234 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,400 before the next meeting. 235 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 The same with the footers 236 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,400 for the little bridge, 237 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I don't know if those are just 238 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 like footers that are just 239 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 like for a deck. 240 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 When you see it, you'll see 241 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,000 what they're talking about. 242 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 They're just going to pour, 243 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,000 obviously they're just going 244 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 to pour two concrete curbs, 245 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 for lack of a better term, 246 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 that they're going to attach 247 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 to it. 248 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 This isn't a foot, this isn't a 249 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 bridge that's going to be 250 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 for vehicles, 251 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 this is just a bridge 252 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 for pedestrian traffic, it's 253 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 just, and right now, 254 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I think that what they want 255 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 to do is they want to make sure 256 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,000 that it doesn't wind up 257 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 downstream, and part 258 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 of the process of doing this, 259 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 what I would be also 260 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 recommending is how are they 261 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 going to anchor it or at least 262 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 tether the bridge should a 263 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 flash flood come by, 264 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 that the bridge is, that 265 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 footbridge doesn't become 266 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 something clogged 267 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,400 in a culvert downstream. 268 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Thank you. 269 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Gary. 270 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Any other questions 271 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 from commissioners? 272 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Is the, 273 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,000 where the improvements are 274 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 going in, is there a flood zone 275 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 that extends out 276 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 from the creek? 277 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 There's not currently shown a 278 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 flood zone. 279 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Okay. 280 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 It's unshaded accent on FEMA, 281 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 or? 282 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 There's a wetland line that's 283 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,000 been depicted, 284 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 but no flood zone. 285 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Okay. 286 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 It's picked up by the CRIR. 287 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 On the firm map, it doesn't, it 288 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 does not say that there's a 289 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 flood zone. 290 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Okay. 291 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Any other questions, comments, 292 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 if there aren't any, 293 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 if someone could make a motion 294 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 to table 295 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 to the next meeting. 296 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 All right. 297 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 We'll make a motion. 298 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 We table regulated activity 299 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 1261 for Chambers Road until 300 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 the next regularly scheduled 301 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 meeting, which is the 25th of 302 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 February. 303 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Second. 304 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 All those in favor? 305 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Aye. 306 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,000 Opposed? 307 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Thank you. 308 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Thank you. 309 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,400 (Inaudible). The application is 310 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 not completed so the applicant 311 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 has decided to wait this evening 312 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 and submit a full application. 313 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 So we will have to make a motion 314 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 if the application is not 315 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 complete and vote on it next 316 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 meeting. (Inaudible) is in Utah 317 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 right now on vacation, I spoke 318 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 with him yesterday, saw the 319 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 report, this is on the previous 320 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 subdivision. 321 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 And I said I'd like that 322 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 revisited. 323 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Are there multiple lots 324 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 associated 325 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 with the proposed development? 326 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Ten. 327 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Ten? 328 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Ten. 329 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 We can't talk about it. 330 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 We're not talking 331 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 about it tonight. 332 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 It's not a completed, 333 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 this is coming down the pipe, 334 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 but yes, this is a subdivision 335 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 application. 336 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Are you talking 337 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,000 about the future is going to, 338 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 they want to break it down 339 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 into ten lots? 340 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Well, again, we can't talk 341 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 about that. 342 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 We're not talking 343 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 about it tonight. 344 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 The application is different 345 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 than what's submitted, 346 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 so we need to vote 347 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 on that it's not. 348 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,000 We need additional information 349 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,000 at this point. 350 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Thank you. 351 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Mr. Chairman, I'll make a 352 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,000 motion 353 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 to table regulated activity 354 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 12. 355 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 I know. 356 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,000 You don't accept the 357 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,000 application. 358 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Yeah. 359 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Okay. 360 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 We need a motion that the 361 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 application is not complete. 362 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Okay. 363 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 We move on. 364 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Good deal. 365 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Do we have a second? 366 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Second. 367 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,000 All those in favor? 368 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Aye. 369 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Opposed? 370 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Thank you. 371 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 Old business. 372 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 We have regular activity 373 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 1258, 227-297. 374 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 So move. 375 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Chairman and Commissioner. 376 00:11:47,100 --> 00:11:48,100 Oh, this one's on. 377 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:49,100 There we go. 378 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:50,100 My name is Charles 379 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,100 Lichtenauer. 380 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:52,100 I'm an attorney with Chipman 381 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:53,100 Mizuko Emerson located at 44 382 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:54,100 Old Ridgebury Road in 383 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:56,100 Danbury. 384 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:57,100 I represent the owner 385 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,100 of the property, 386 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:00,100 and I'm here tonight with 387 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:01,100 Jamie LaGiudice from Insight 388 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:03,100 Engineering and Daniel Knight 389 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:05,100 from Morphar. 390 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:06,100 We received the staff report 391 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:08,100 dated February 9th 392 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:09,100 from staff, and we appreciate 393 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:12,100 staff's thorough review and the 394 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,100 recommendation that with the 395 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:15,100 appropriate measures and 396 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:17,100 conditions in place, 397 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:18,100 the project will not result 398 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:20,100 in significant impacts 399 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:22,401 to wetlands or waterways. 400 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,100 Our team is generally agreeable 401 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:27,100 with the conditions, but we'd 402 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:29,100 like to make one request 403 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:31,100 for a modification. 404 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:32,100 And our team would like 405 00:12:32,100 --> 00:12:34,100 to see the modification 406 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:36,100 from five years to three years 407 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:38,100 with respect 408 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:39,100 to condition four. 409 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:40,100 And that would be so that our 410 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:42,100 monitoring and our 411 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,100 documentation requirements are 412 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,100 consistent with Southeast's 413 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:47,100 requirements. 414 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:50,100 And that is our only comment. 415 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:52,100 So I will open the floor 416 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:54,100 to conversations with our 417 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:56,100 project engineer and owner, 418 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:58,100 myself, 419 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:59,100 but that's our only comment. 420 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:00,100 So thank you very much, 421 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:02,100 Larry, for your report and 422 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:04,401 for the diligent conditions 423 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:06,100 of approval. 424 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:07,100 And I'll leave it at that. 425 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,100 Thank you. 426 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:12,100 I will open this up for 427 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:13,100 discussion with the 428 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:15,100 commissioners, anybody has any 429 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,401 questions? Make any comments. 430 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,100 I did, and I have one question 431 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:24,100 to their comment. 432 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:25,100 They want to reduce the 433 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:26,100 five-year monitoring 434 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:27,100 post-complete 435 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:29,100 of the project. 436 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,100 Is that what he said? 437 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:34,100 Post, you know, I didn't, I'm 438 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:35,100 sorry, 439 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,100 I didn't understand what. 440 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:38,100 The five, the condition four 441 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:39,100 states, the invasive species 442 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:41,100 removal plan shall be 443 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:42,100 implemented and the area 444 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:43,100 monitored 445 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:45,100 for five growing seasons. 446 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:46,100 Okay. 447 00:13:46,100 --> 00:13:47,100 And they would like to change 448 00:13:47,100 --> 00:13:48,100 that 449 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:50,100 to three growing seasons. 450 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:51,100 Okay. 451 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:52,100 I said five only because I 452 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:55,100 chose five, and my reasoning 453 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:00,100 was that the area that the area 454 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,100 of Barbary that they're 455 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:03,100 removing is massive. 456 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:04,100 We walked through that when we 457 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:06,100 were there. 458 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:07,100 And that three years, 459 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,100 you're just going 460 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:09,100 to start seeing a little bit 461 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:11,100 of growth. 462 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:12,100 In my opinion, three years, you 463 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:14,100 just start seeing if it's kind 464 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:15,100 of bounced back. 465 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:16,100 You're going 466 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:17,100 to start seeing a little bit 467 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,100 of growth, and then it's going 468 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:20,100 to wind up being ten years 469 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:21,100 from now, 470 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,100 it'll wind up being fully full 471 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,100 of Barbary again. 472 00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:25,100 So in five years, it gives 473 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:28,100 them, in my opinion, five 474 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:30,100 years, and I will, 475 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:31,100 obviously it's just a changing 476 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:33,100 of a wording in the approval, 477 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:34,100 however, 478 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:36,401 it's something that we're 479 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:41,100 trying to make it that the 480 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:43,100 plants that they're planting in 481 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,100 these areas can harden and 482 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:47,401 maintain and out-compete the 483 00:14:48,100 --> 00:14:50,100 Barbary, which has really taken 484 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:51,100 over a large portion 485 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:53,100 of that wetland. 486 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,100 And if the agency feels that 487 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:57,100 three is sufficient, I'm okay 488 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:58,100 with that, too. 489 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:59,100 I got to follow up 490 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,100 with my question, though, 491 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:01,100 but they, I'm sorry, you 492 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:02,100 referenced, 493 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:03,100 I don't remember your name 494 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,100 already, you referenced that 495 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:06,100 to comport with, 496 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:07,100 I think you said comport with 497 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:09,100 Southeast regulations. 498 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:10,100 So they have a three-year 499 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,100 monitoring? 500 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:12,100 Is that the idea? 501 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:13,100 Correct. 502 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:14,100 Is that what you're just trying 503 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:15,100 to make them both the same? 504 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:17,100 Correct. 505 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:20,100 Okay, just a question, 506 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:21,100 hypothetically, I can 507 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:22,100 understand the monitoring and 508 00:15:22,100 --> 00:15:23,100 maybe you don't want 509 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:24,100 to send pictures back 510 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:25,100 in every year 511 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:26,100 after three years, but if 512 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:27,100 in five years you start 513 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:30,100 to see an infestation of 514 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:31,100 Barbary back 515 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,401 into your driving range, 516 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,100 what are you going 517 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,100 to do? 518 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:37,100 I mean, I'm assuming you're not 519 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:38,100 just going to say, oh, look, 520 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:40,100 there's Barbary and let it go, 521 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:41,100 but what is that, 522 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:43,401 not necessarily reporting back 523 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:45,100 to us as 524 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:46,100 to what the status is, but 525 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:48,100 what's your standard management 526 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:49,100 practice if you start 527 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:52,601 to see that pick up again? 528 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:54,100 So that would be part of the 529 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:55,100 overall golf course management 530 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,100 plan, so they, 531 00:15:57,100 --> 00:15:58,100 they're not going to let 532 00:15:58,100 --> 00:15:59,100 Barbary just kind of take 533 00:15:59,100 --> 00:16:01,100 over the driving range, 534 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:02,100 it defeats the point 535 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:03,100 of the driving range, but that 536 00:16:03,100 --> 00:16:05,100 would be included as part 537 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:06,100 of their management plan, 538 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:08,401 but their overall operations, 539 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:11,100 so it would be maintained. 540 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,100 And my other reasoning 541 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:15,100 behind that is, is that they 542 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,100 are limiting their invasive 543 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:19,100 removal to the area where 544 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,601 they're doing work and not the 545 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:27,100 entirety of the wetland, and 546 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:29,100 it's inevitable that that area 547 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:30,100 is going 548 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:31,100 to revert back. 549 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,100 I'm trying to make it, the five 550 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,100 years is that if we have it and 551 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:37,100 they maintain it, but again, 552 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:39,100 this is not my decision, 553 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:40,100 it's your decision, and if the 554 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,100 agency thinks that marrying 555 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:44,100 with what Southeast does is 556 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:45,100 appropriate, 557 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:47,401 then so be it. 558 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:56,100 I'm on, okay, I think I'm 559 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:58,100 personally uncomfortable just 560 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,100 marrying it because that's what 561 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:00,100 Southeast does, but 562 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:02,401 from your perspective, five 563 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,100 years is a more robust and 564 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,100 ensuring it, however, you've 565 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:09,100 also just described the fact 566 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:11,100 that they have a seedbed just 567 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:12,100 outside the area, 568 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,100 which is still going 569 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,100 to be full of Barbary, and it's 570 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:16,100 right there. 571 00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:18,100 Okay. 572 00:17:19,100 --> 00:17:20,100 Okay. 573 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:21,100 We didn't require that the 574 00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:22,100 entire wetland be mitigated 575 00:17:22,100 --> 00:17:24,100 of Barbary, okay, because that 576 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:25,100 would be an undertaking that we 577 00:17:25,100 --> 00:17:27,100 wouldn't ask to do anyway, 578 00:17:27,100 --> 00:17:28,100 okay, that would be 579 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:30,100 astronomically expensive as 580 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:32,100 it's not prudent or feasible, 581 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,100 however, what we, you know, if 582 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:38,100 we can make it the areas that 583 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:41,100 are visible and are going 584 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:43,401 to be utilized, again, 585 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,100 I have no objection to three, 586 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:49,100 okay, but knowing that their 587 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:50,100 maintenance program is going 588 00:17:50,100 --> 00:17:51,100 to be that they're going 589 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:54,100 to maintain the driving range, 590 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,100 once the driving range is 591 00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:56,100 complete, 592 00:17:56,100 --> 00:17:57,100 I'm really not that concerned 593 00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:58,100 about the driving range, 594 00:17:58,100 --> 00:17:59,100 I'm concerned about the 595 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,100 periphery and the wetlands 596 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:02,100 on the outskirts 597 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:04,100 of the driving range, and so, 598 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:05,100 you know, it's going to be, 599 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:07,100 it's also utilized 600 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:11,100 for good scientific research as 601 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:12,100 to what we see, what we 602 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:13,100 monitor, what we saw 603 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:15,100 from the beginning, 604 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:16,100 and I might be able 605 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:17,100 to write a paper about that, 606 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:19,100 about, you know, golf course 607 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:20,100 improvements, 608 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,100 which is what we talked 609 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:22,100 about when we were out there, 610 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:23,100 you know, 611 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:26,100 so the golf course is just 612 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:27,100 another, 613 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,100 it's just a technical term 614 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:30,100 for turf management, 615 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:32,100 that's what they do, they 616 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,100 manage the turf and they manage 617 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:36,100 the environment, 618 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:37,100 I'm just trying 619 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:39,100 to set some parameters, again, 620 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,100 I have no objection to three, 621 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:43,100 and you know, if necessary, 622 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,100 you know, if it comes in, you 623 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:46,100 know, they're not going 624 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:49,601 to get their bond release until 625 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,100 everything is taken care of, 626 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,100 and the plantings that they do, 627 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:56,100 it's got 628 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:59,100 to be an 80% success rate 629 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,100 after five years, three years, 630 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:02,100 whichever way that, 631 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,100 whichever number you guys agree 632 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:07,100 to, so that's the way that that 633 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,100 is and that's fine, 634 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:10,100 that's okay 635 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:11,100 with me. 636 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:12,100 I'm just listening to different 637 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:13,100 comments, I mean, 638 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:16,100 what I'm hearing from Larry is 639 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:17,100 we're only just going 640 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,100 to see how it's doing 641 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:21,100 after three years, 642 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:22,100 and the only reason not 643 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,100 to do it is to be the same as 644 00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:26,100 Southeast, I just assume then 645 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:29,100 stay with the five, 646 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:32,100 because there's a staff there, 647 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:34,100 a good staff, 648 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:36,100 this is a good way 649 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:37,100 to make sure we're going 650 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:39,100 to get what has been promised, 651 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:42,100 so I'm not an expert 652 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,100 on these plants, 653 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,100 other people know more, 654 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,100 but I'm just going 655 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:51,100 by what people are telling me, 656 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:53,100 so. 657 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:58,100 If I may, Mr. Chairman, 658 00:19:58,100 --> 00:19:59,100 Commissioners Harreld and 659 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,100 Dufel, completely understood 660 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:04,100 with respect to your reasoning 661 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:06,100 behind the five years, and 662 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:07,100 after discussion 663 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,100 with the owner, 664 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:09,100 we will concede 665 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,100 to the five years, 666 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:11,100 we don't have a problem 667 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:13,100 with that, it would be nice 668 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:14,100 to have consistency, but we 669 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:16,100 understand staff's arguments, 670 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,100 and so with the conditions 671 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,100 of approval shown 672 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:23,100 on the staff report, we are 673 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,100 hoping and requesting that this 674 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:26,100 commission will approve the 675 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,100 application this evening. 676 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,401 Thank you very much. 677 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,100 Solves that? 678 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,401 Any other questions, comments, 679 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:40,100 or is anybody interested in 680 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:41,100 making a motion? 681 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,100 I'll make a motion we approve 682 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:44,100 regulated activity 1258 for 683 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:50,100 Morphar Golf Course, and 684 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,100 with the stipulations noted 685 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,401 in the staff report. 686 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,100 Do we have a second? 687 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:56,100 Second. 688 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:57,100 All those in favor? 689 00:20:57,100 --> 00:20:58,100 Aye. 690 00:20:58,100 --> 00:20:59,100 Opposed? 691 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:00,100 Thank you. 692 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:02,401 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 693 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,100 Thank you. 694 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,100 Good. 695 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,100 Next item on the agenda is 696 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,100 1260 Ann Albert Road. 697 00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:16,100 Hi, Marissa Bablako, I'm the 698 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:17,100 homeowner. 699 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,100 I read through the staff 700 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:19,100 report, happy 701 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:22,100 to provide a bond and plant 15 702 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:23,100 plants. 703 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:24,100 Larry sent over a list of 704 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,100 approved shrubs. 705 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:27,100 I found one that was non-toxic 706 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,100 to dogs, and it looks great, 707 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:30,100 so happy 708 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,100 to meet all the conditions 709 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,100 of the report. 710 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:40,100 Do we have a motion to review 711 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:43,100 the report and the commission? 712 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,100 I'm doing it. 713 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,100 The suspense is killing us. 714 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:57,100 Okay, I make a motion we accept 715 00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:59,100 regulated activity 1260 716 00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,401 with the specifications noted 717 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,100 in the staff report, 718 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:07,100 and approve the request, 719 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,100 approve the... 720 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:11,100 Do we have a second? 721 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,100 Second. 722 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:13,100 All those in favor? 723 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:14,100 Aye. 724 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,100 Opposed? 725 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,100 Thank you. 726 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,100 Thank you. 727 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:22,100 We don't have any applications 728 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,100 for administrative approval, 729 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,100 staff actions, violations. 730 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,100 Anything there? 731 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,100 As far as the violations, 732 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:35,100 we are in contact with council 733 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,100 about a few of these, 734 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,100 and there will be news coming 735 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,401 in the not-too-distant future. 736 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,100 Larry, I'm 737 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100 in the work group. 738 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,100 Okay, working group updates, 739 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:50,401 we met last week. 740 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,100 Yeah, last Wednesday. 741 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,100 Wednesday, Thursday? 742 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,100 Was it Thursday? 743 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,100 Yes, right, it was Thursday, 744 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,100 Thursday the 5th, 745 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,100 not the 4th. 746 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,100 And reviewed the edited version 747 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,100 of the regulations, 748 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:10,100 made a few minor changes 749 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,100 for clarification 750 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100 on what's written in there. 751 00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:15,601 Next step is to update that 752 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:19,100 version and send it out 753 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:20,100 for review. 754 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:23,100 So this will be the existing 755 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,401 Danbury regulations showing all 756 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:29,100 of the edits and using the 757 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,100 trace function in the Word 758 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:32,100 document for everybody 759 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,601 to review, and we will meet. 760 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,100 The crux of the revision is 761 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,100 that the fee schedule is taken 762 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,100 out of the body 763 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,100 of the regulation and made 764 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,100 into an appendix. 765 00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:47,100 The fee schedule is also going 766 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,100 to be distributed to everybody 767 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,100 so that this way then you can 768 00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:53,100 review it and make comments, 769 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:54,100 and then the next steps that we 770 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:57,100 have is to have it reviewed 771 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,100 by the Corporation Council, 772 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:00,100 just because they have 773 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:01,100 to review all changes, 774 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,100 and then after it goes 775 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,100 to the DEP for their review and 776 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,401 final blessings of it. 777 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,401 Then we will have 778 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,100 to publish it in the paper. 779 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:15,100 That's part 780 00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,100 of the requirements. 781 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:19,100 Okay, so proposing to meet, I 782 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,100 think, like Tuesday, February 783 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,100 24th? 784 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,100 Sure, that works for me. 785 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,100 Okay, at 4 o'clock? 786 00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,100 4 o'clock. 787 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100 I serve at your pleasure. 788 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,100 You guys tell me when you can 789 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100 do it. 790 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,100 And whoever can make that, 791 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,100 we'll start, you know, 792 00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,100 we'll go 793 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:38,401 over the complete document. 794 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:42,601 Okay? Great, thank you. We have 795 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100 no correspondence. Do we have a 796 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,100 motion to adjourn? Who wants 797 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:57,601 to adjourn? Make a motion we 798 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,100 adjourn. Do we have a second? 799 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,100 Second. All those in favor? 800 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,100 Aye. Aye. Opposed? 801 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,100 Thank you, everybody. 802 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:15,100 I hope you have a good 803 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,000 Valentine's Day.