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all right let's begin with a roll call

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Mr Gary Libby here Mr Robert Ellis here

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Mr Gary

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kopos Mr Vernon weatherholt here miss

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Helen humph here Miss Amy pile here Mr

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William bidor here Mr Raymond M here

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excellent all right now that we have

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that done let's all stand and do our

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Pledge of

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Allegiance un States of

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America the for it stands one

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nation indivisible liy and justice for

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all

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amen

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yes all right now we're going to go to

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approval of our previous meetings

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minutes it appears that we have two here

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uh one for June 12th and one for August

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14th I'll move approval of the June 12th

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do we have a second second all those in

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favor of approving our June 12th meeting

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minutes say I I I all those opposed

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seeing none that's approved uh now move

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on to our August 14th meeting approval

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do we have a motion I'll so move

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approval second all those in favor hi hi

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all those opposed seeing none we move

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forward and could I mention minutes were

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terrific that was a tough meeting to do

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minutes for and I salute you and you got

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the colonels of everything that was

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going on and very very well done thank

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for she did a great job do we have a

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police report for let's go a can we go

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ahead and get that out of the way before

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we do staff and everything you guys good

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with that you come on

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up she's a good

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cop everyone hello hello hello you

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haven't met I'm Lieutenant Burns I cover

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the uh District 2 the East Side uh for

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Daytona Beach Police

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Department um for the last two weeks

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we've had

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1,774 calls 315 reports 44 felony

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arrests 93 misdemeanor arrests 412

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traffic stops 323 citations from those

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traffic stops

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355 um field interview cards

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and 42 courtesy cards 29 toad Vehicles

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43 vehicle crashes three were DUI

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arrests 24 city ordinance violations and

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19 arrests for trespassing or Park rule

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violations wow um 24 arrests were made

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for domestic related offenses in our

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district there were four aggravated

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assault incidents all of which were

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cleared by arrest there were five

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burglaries um three of which were

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cleared by arrest four car brakes and

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one of those was cleared by arrest three

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stolen vehicles one of those was

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recovered and um there were no robberies

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last two weeks so that's really good um

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we have officers that continue to check

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under the uh Bridges and through the

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city parks and they we we did 32 arrests

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for that um in Jackie Robinson we've

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been focusing there and there were 11

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arrests made there

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and every weekend we hire overtime for

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the seab breze corridor the bar area and

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during this time we had 37 calls five

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reports 94 traffic stops 77 citations 10

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parking violations um three felony

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arrests actually one of those uh

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resulted I think in two recovered guns

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uh 15 G of cocaine and 13 G of marijuana

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and that was one of our sergeants that

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was on over time over there so that was

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a really good one um we had that felony

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arrest we also picked up um one of our

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detectives also picked up a wanted

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person who uh is a violent criminal

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picked him up on seab breze as well uh I

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think that might have been two weekends

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ago um so they're really active out

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there on the weekends and uh hopefully

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we're making something kind of

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difference out there so um we're right

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now planning or at least preparing for a

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possible truck October uh event and then

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uh biketober

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Fest is that sanctioned the truck to

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test I don't believe so so it's just a

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potential one we're not sure because of

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Pas times um we're just kind of planning

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for it in case it pops up who covers

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that Val uh valusa County the sheriff's

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no on the beach oh on the beach is the

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sheriff yes MH up on land is up even if

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it's not sanctioned they will yeah just

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Patrol is normal than as soon as well as

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soon as the sheriff puts out that

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warning now the um how they can have

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their trucks like if it's an event a

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popup event where everything is enhanced

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it usually it usually stops it from

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happening absolutely that'll probably

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happen in this one hopefully thank you

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MH uh from what I've seen seab Bree has

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had a very positive impact since you

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know Kudos did the police department

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doing a great job I think that the

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cameras are helping a lot because it's

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really on the minds of the criminals

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they've actually complained about it I

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run a sober house in Pearson I run a

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sohouse and Pearson also and they're

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complaining about like I don't want to

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sell drugs in Daytona because they got

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cameras that's great go somewhere else I

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have to tell you those cameras from my

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perspective are fantastic whoever idea

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that was it was

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amazing our

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commissioner stck we had the a potential

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situation over on the West Side still

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being investigated so I don't want to

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talk about too much but it started over

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on seab breze and we were able to track

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because of the cameras we can track the

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person's every movement and identify and

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then we have um other things that we can

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focus on to identify people so those

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cameras are amazing what what I'm trying

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to do on uh and Cuda is on South Grand

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View because there was like a major Pro

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everybody was parking in front of and that got taken care of and it um

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it's going to slow down a little bit I'm

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working along with the city I'm putting

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cameras up there on South gra View and

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across East ISB so so that way I don't

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know how I get those to the police

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department we'll have to figure that out

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it's great it's great those cameras are

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doing amazing it really does yes and I

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want to commend you we have cameras all

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over my business we had no problems but

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at night one night we did have a group

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that moved in and thought they could

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just live there yes ma'am and I called

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came immediately I love that thank you for that thank

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you does anybody else have any other

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questions comments no oh all right all

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right thank you thank you for having me

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thank you thank you thank you you're

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welcome thank you all right now we have

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a commercial property Improvement

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funding request for is this for 615 Main

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Street or 614 cuz I saw both 615 and 614

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both okay that's what I thought was I'm

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sure um Mr chairman for the record Mr um

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kopulos is present y he sure

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is um good evening I'm Angela amstrong

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project manager for the Main Street and

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South Atlantic CRA and tonight I'm going

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to present item number six which is the

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commercial property Improvement funding

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request for 615 Main Street

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Mr Tom guest applicant and owner

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representative is requesting the

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Redevelopment board to approve the

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request for funding through the 0%

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interest loan commercial Improvement

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incentive

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program the property is located at 615

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Main Street between white Olive and

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South o Leander

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Street review of and the decision on the

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commercial incentive application shall

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be based on the following

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preconditions is it a conforming use the

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subject property is in the rdv2

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Redevelopment bite specialty retail

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zoning District which allows retail

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sales and services as a principal use

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this property is a conforming use within

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the zoning District does the property

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have any delinquent adalan taxes or

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Municipal of County Lans a staff has not

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found any delinquent ad Balor taxes or

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County Lans on this

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property how the project will contribute

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to the elimination or prevention of a

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slum and bl this subject property is in

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one of our core areas the applicant is

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proposing the the replacement of all 34

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is 34 or 39 Windows to bring the bu

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building into

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compliance and this is a picture of the

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building as you can see um the windows

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have been never changed and um you know

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it's causing every time it rains it has

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um leaking through the window so they

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need to change

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it this is another side of the

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building those are the windows that

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needs to to be

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changed these will all be impact Windows

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correct yes

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okay if F staff recommends approval of

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the commercial Improvement grant for 615

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Main Street in the amount not to exceed

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$50,000 a majority vote by the Vite

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Redevelopment board members present and

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voting is required to recommend approval

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to the Comm City commission the

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applicant is here if you have any

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questions you can um I know that we have

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on the pipeline more Improvement to this

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building but this is the first um the

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first one because it's most needed on

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the building that was going to be my

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first question yeah I answered that then

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um do you know are is there going to be

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Central HVAC or after the windows go in

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are they going to be open with uh window

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[Applause]

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Mr chairman members of the board City

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staff uh I'm Tom guest uh uh and I'm the

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manager of this building which is

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actually uh legally uh 614 Main Street

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okay the uh windows are going in all

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upstairs which is the address of 616

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I that's across the street in the city

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parking lot in the county parking lot

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okay okay now what was the question um

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are you guys going to put HVAC upstairs

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Central HVAC or is it going to be the

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window units in every window it's going

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to be window units window units are are

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you guys finding that when the rain

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comes through you're having a lot of

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leaks through where the window units are

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too no no these windows uh I've been an

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occupant of that building since 1985

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okay Windows not have not been changed

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before I came into the building in a

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while and uh you know they're they're in

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really really bad shape we have done a

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lot of repairs a lot of patching on

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these windows over the past years that

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I've managed the property and uh it's

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gotten to the point where uh theyve just

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got to be replaced M and it will you

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know it's going to be all white vinyl so

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it's going to uh improve the the uh

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Aesthetics Aesthetics of the uh

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building uh and the area because they're

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going to match the I've got sliding

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glass uh doors which are white vinyl

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down on the first floor so it's going to

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match very nicely and uh uh the pictures

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don't show it but if you if you get over

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close and you look at these windows

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they're uh they're almost as old as I

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am yes sirad yeah Tom what are what are

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the uses upstairs what spaces be used

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for there's 11 Apartments upstairs oh

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there are Apartments 11 and wow

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downstairs there businesses downstairs

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five five business locations five stores

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okay okay which five stores are

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downstairs

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uh well I just can't think off the top

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of my head I know I'm the corner but I'm

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St well starting at 608 you've got uh

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cigar guy uh uh six uh 610 you've got a

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uh leather

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Merchant 612 is silver

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jewelry uh 6 14 614 is uh some yeah I forget the name of the

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business but it's it's it's paintings

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that you that they I know the block

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you're talking that they play music out

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of t-shirts on the corner okay all right

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does anybody else have any other

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questions for Mr gust are there I mean

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are there people living in the apartment

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oh yes yes I have one vacant one right

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now but for the most part I keep them

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pretty much

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occupied they've stayed rented over the

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years they really have so sorry hi Tom

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uh so my question is about um you you

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mentioned there were other improvements

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going to be happening to this building

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um are there is there

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other uh grant money available say for

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the awning and some of the things going

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on down stairs I mean I know this is two

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different things but I'm just you're

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asking me or you asking well I can I can

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you know I'm I'm wondering because

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looking at it I mean I'm just to me it

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would be nice to have a new warning

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there as as far as the main street

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streetcape and then um also you know I

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would talk about show Windows what's

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going on in the show Windows which you

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might have some influence since these

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are your tenants um we could you know I

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just kind of wonder what you thought

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about that um the business owner are

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entitled to apply for the grant so we

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changed the owning and one of the

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tenants already has the application so

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we can oh great great so we can improve

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the excellent so that that's that'll be

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more improvements to the building that's good to hear um and then I just I

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mean because I have I have to ask

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because we've been discussing the view

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the storefront views of buildings that

329
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aren't used except during biker events

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you know we're we've been discussing

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options for you know some like it would

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be

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beautification to have Windows either

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have some sort of a you know I don't

335
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know if it's called a wrap or a you know

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they make these kind of decal things

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that look attractive like instead of

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just the white paper for example now

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this isn't really have anything to do

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with the Grant and I wouldn't like I'm

341
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not going to vote against the Grant in

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any way this but if you have influence

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with your tenants that are in those you

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know as far as your leases and so on is

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there any way to kind of Step Up the

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game as far as what we see from the

347
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street I believe there is and there was

348
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something I mean the said many years ago

349
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I remember the city did this the city

350
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had a plan and uh if you wanted to order

351
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them from the city would make uh some of

352
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these different screens whatever you

353
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want to call them appliques so that uh

354
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you could actually see out of them but

355
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you couldn't see in right you know and

356
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it could have something decorative on it

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yes they had they had all kinds of

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different scenes you know beach scenes

359
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Mountain scen so you kind of like that

360
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idea that yes yeah absolutely all right

361
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thanks it's something we we've been sort

362
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of think smart idea thanks all right

363
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anybody else oh I just was curious who

364
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owns the building then oh it's Nesco

365
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Associates LLC it's uh it's a couple people from Winter Park okay they

366
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bought it in 2010 MH I started manag I I

367
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was in there I had a retail business uh

368
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which I retired about that time I became

369
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manager of the building a couple years

370
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before that and uh when they bought the

371
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building they said they were interested

372
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in buying it but only if I came with

373
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it that was the exact statement at the

374
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time so here I am what a

375
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deal all right well we have to wait on

376
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Mr Libby to get back here thank you

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we'll move

378
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forward thank you thank you Tom

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[Music]

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yeah while while we're waiting I mean I

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think I feel like we've mentioned it I

382
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guess I've thought about it so much

383
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sometimes I forget whether we've talked

384
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about it but the you know the screens

385
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that he's talking about it's kind of

386
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like a pierced decal you know that

387
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perforated ones a perforated one that

388
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you know could have you know if if there

389
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was some oversight of what went on them

390
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and it wasn't just arbitrary you know I

391
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think it oh actually I think it's

392
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something I might have put in my suggest

393
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questions now that I think about it so

394
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we'll probably get to that anyway I'm

395
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done what item number is this joh this

396
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item number

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okay all right thank you we'll have

398
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public comment John

399
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Nicholson nichon 43 North Grand Avenue

400
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the picture that they showed you look at

401
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the awning on that corner building could

402
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it be repainted I mean given the fact

403
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that we're giving this loan and it's to

404
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enhance the building

405
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that takes away from everything on the

406
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building and secondly the

407
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um what do they call it there's a name

408
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for it now the painting on the side the

409
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mural the mural uh is there way is there

410
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a time frame because I know we allowed

411
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it years ago uh it's getting kind of

412
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faded and there's another one down the

413
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street also Getting Faded uh is there a

414
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time frame on refreshing the murals I

415
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think the one down the street got repain

416
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it already John yeah yeah it did for

417
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sure the one down the street did I don't

418
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believe did you hrey did you yours I

419
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believe Tom's going to answer I have a

420
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application because I'm having the whole

421
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thing redone there's one on the corner

422
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of the building I'm in as well that on

423
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the corner yes because I didn't know

424
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whether we had a

425
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um a rule in it when we okay it because

426
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we did that 40 years ago with the light

427
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bulb Gary you will remember light bulbs

428
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and the fluoresence and whatnot that we got rid of them because they weren't

429
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being changed and whatnot so I'm

430
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wondering if we did that thank you thank

431
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you John and as M Armstrong stated uh uh

432
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the tenant in the corner of the building

433
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in the corner shop has already put in an

434
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application to replace the awning not

435
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just repair it replace it because it's I put that awning up there back in the

436
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,159
uh '90s uh it's been replaced several

437
00:21:54,159 --> 00:21:57,919
times but it's uh right now well we used

438
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to be able to make them with

439
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canvas City won't allow that anymore you

440
00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,360
got be made with vinyl vinyl does not

441
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last over there vinyl will not last on

442
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the beach side so that's only uh I mean

443
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looking at the awning it is deplorable

444
00:22:13,159 --> 00:22:15,559
it's only five or six years old yeah MH

445
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and we've cleaned it many many times

446
00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:19,760
know as far as the mural on the end of

447
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the building uh I've been speaking with

448
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,880
the several different people to get it

449
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,120
to repaint I also put that on the

450
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building back in the 990s and uh

451
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it has been

452
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redone I think four times since then you

453
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,600
know the paint just the weather's har

454
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,919
bee side they don't last long got to

455
00:22:38,919 --> 00:22:40,600
redo so anyways yeah those are things

456
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that we are we are taking care of okay

457
00:22:43,919 --> 00:22:45,320
thank you for answering that Tom last

458
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comment Tom are you aware that Main

459
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Street is a national register of

460
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historic District's location not local

461
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but National I've heard rumors about

462
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that I the rumors are I I don't know

463
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:03,039
exactly and the only reason uh I'm very

464
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glad you're doing what you're doing and

465
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,559
I think the program is excellent because

466
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we we're in a little bit of a conundrum

467
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there when it did not go forward for

468
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local designation because with local

469
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designation would come all kinds of

470
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requirements design standards and the

471
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kinds of Windows and things like that we had a commission that that uh we had

472
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like three or four historic local

473
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historic districts in a row and the city

474
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was getting you know right right up to

475
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here with history unfortunately right um

476
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so I salute uh your doing this and

477
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taking advantage of this program I'm

478
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very glad we have this program I think

479
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it's an excellent one it'll get these

480
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buildings up to a standard now that make

481
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them make the rents you know more

482
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rentable the physical spaces better the

483
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,159
income uh better for these properties

484
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and therefore the street better as well

485
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so thanks very much

486
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we're doing whatever we can down there

487
00:24:00,919 --> 00:24:04,039
and the windows are a triple pain yeah

488
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,760
okay with the outside hurricane and

489
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,720
double pain in between with the gas in

490
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,440
between it to uh maintain heat and heat

491
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,440
and cooling those are the best ones

492
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,480
absolutely the best ones thank you

493
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,080
Tom all right I apologize for running

494
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,360
out I got a silent alarm somebody was

495
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,039
trying to get into my car so I went down

496
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:25,960
and checked it and it's we're fine it's

497
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,600
everything they didn't couldn't get in

498
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760
all right well I'd like to make a motion

499
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,279
we approve this that's what I was just

500
00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:34,919
going for yeah I'll second the motion we

501
00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:36,760
have two seconds there all those in

502
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,039
favor say I I I all those opposed seeing

503
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none or approved 615 Main Street

504
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,760
pleasure sir thank

505
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,679
you all right got that now one window in

506
00:24:51,679 --> 00:24:56,000
my house to Happ we're moving on to a

507
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board discussion on the Beachside

508
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neighborhood watch

509
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:04,080
yeah Mr chairman there was um an update

510
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:10,960
to the resolution and I provided you on on your packet MH and is open to

511
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,799
board discussion if you have any

512
00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:16,000
suggestions so

513
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,399
okay does anybody have any comments on

514
00:25:18,399 --> 00:25:20,600
this is it is it a

515
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080
presentation is it are the asking for

516
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,120
anything is there any motion involved in

517
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:29,240
it is this the the um um presentation

518
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,440
before the commission to alter um

519
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Landscaping I mean what what is for the

520
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360
Beachside plans yes is it the the the

521
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,600
resolution that you already had that you

522
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discussed it was an update on August um

523
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first so I provided you with the updated

524
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:53,080
so you can have it and we have Miss en

525
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,960
Ruby here that can um can talk about

526
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,000
that could we have a brief presentation

527
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,240
I think it's warranted who's the chair

528
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,559
here you Tak over ask I'm sorry everyone

529
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,919
can speak everyone can speak it's open

530
00:26:06,919 --> 00:26:08,760
it's a board discussion do do you guys

531
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520
feel like we need a

532
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,399
presentation yeah I feel like a

533
00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:15,000
presentation to clarify would help as

534
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,520
well just a little introduction yes yeah

535
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,039
so an Ruby 136 Park Avenue I'm chairman

536
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:21,440
of the Beachside neighborhood watch we

537
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,399
have several Beachside neighborhood

538
00:26:23,399 --> 00:26:25,480
watch Board of director members here

539
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,279
including Mr weather Holtz um we had a

540
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:29,600
originally brought before you the one

541
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,039
that we passed September 7th

542
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,279
2023 and there were a lot of questions

543
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,279
raised about that well was there

544
00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:39,600
scientific evidence um do a study find

545
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,679
out what else is happening we weren't

546
00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:44,360
actually ever proposing a direct change

547
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,480
to the LDC we're not proposing that this

548
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,640
be put on requirements put on

549
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,600
Residential Properties what the so on

550
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,200
August 1st of this

551
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,240
year BMW passed a companion resol

552
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,080
resolution so there's two resolutions

553
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600
the companion resolution reads in

554
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,720
September 2023 bnw presented the city

555
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000
commission with the attached resolution

556
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,720
on the use of non-functional turf grass

557
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,440
the resolution was received with much

558
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000
head nodding on the commission but no

559
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,880
action bnw has passed this second

560
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,720
resolution asking the Beachside

561
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,679
Redevelopment board and the planning

562
00:27:22,679 --> 00:27:25,200
board to urge the city commission to

563
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,679
take action to instruct City staff to

564
00:27:28,679 --> 00:27:31,600
use the intentions of the original bnw

565
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,000
resolution as a springboard to examine

566
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,559
what changes could be made Citywide to

567
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,039
our LDC and development standards to

568
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,600
encourage increased use of native plants

569
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,880
and a decreased use of non-functional

570
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480
turf grass on City properties and new

571
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,559
commercial developments additionally bnw

572
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,440
would like to see the city commission

573
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,760
develop a resolution similar to ours

574
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,559
that they would pass on to the state and

575
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,279
the county NE nether resolution is a

576
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,480
direct proposed change to the LDC

577
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
neither resolution is intended

578
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,519
to impose new standards on Residential

579
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:10,559
Properties passage of this second

580
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,679
resolution is intended to Spur the

581
00:28:12,679 --> 00:28:14,840
commission to take action the

582
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,679
instruction to City staff for the

583
00:28:17,679 --> 00:28:19,799
examination of what changes could be

584
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,840
made Citywide to our LDC and development

585
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,000
standards to encourage increased use of

586
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,360
native plants and a decreased use of

587
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,519
non-functional turf grass on City

588
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:30,120
properties and new commercial

589
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,200
developments so that's so that's kind of

590
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,000
what we put on top of the resolution we

591
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,559
first passed because we wanted to make

592
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,360
sure that it was clear what we were

593
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,039
asking the city commission seemed like

594
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:43,880
they really wanted to support what we

595
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,679
were asking for you know if we can get

596
00:28:46,679 --> 00:28:48,279
different standards in place and get

597
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:51,039
different ways of using plants we can

598
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:52,760
save the city money we can save the

599
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
environment we can help create a more

600
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,279
appropriate looking beach side and we're

601
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,240
just asking the com we want the we would

602
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,799
like BMW board support planning board

603
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,519
support to ask the commission to ask

604
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,640
staff to examine these standards and can

605
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440
they be updated to

606
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,200
include yes I'm was going to say I went

607
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
down to Port Orange on the dun lton

608
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,279
Bridge Road there is a very very low

609
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:24,320
growing with tiny white flowers all

610
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200
along there it looks beautiful and when

611
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,039
you look on International Speedway right

612
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:31,159
at the

613
00:29:31,159 --> 00:29:34,320
7-Eleven where they've dug up and dug up

614
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,960
that same plant has come up by itself I

615
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,000
want to find the name of it I have I've

616
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,240
got it on my camera it is wonderful and

617
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,080
it only grows this high so you don't

618
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,120
have to spray it you don't have to water

619
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,200
it in the terrible conditions it is

620
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200
spreading and looks wonderful so why put

621
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
grass there exactly absolutely why put

622
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,559
grass there I want to put it in my front

623
00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:58,720
yard

624
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,960
so my my question to you is do you need

625
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,279
us to vote and say we like this or do we

626
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,320
need to send a representative to the

627
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,000
city commission we're just asking that

628
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,679
we like it we just we're just asking

629
00:30:10,679 --> 00:30:12,960
that you vote to say we the Beachside

630
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,480
Redevelopment board would like to see

631
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,360
you in you know look at these standards

632
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,080
again well I'd make I'll make I'll

633
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,480
make some more discussion if I can make

634
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,000
a motion yeah and I second yeah let's

635
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,120
see if everyone has any question

636
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,399
questions about it and then we'll

637
00:30:29,399 --> 00:30:32,399
discuss and make a motion I agree do

638
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:33,640
either of you have any questions I'm

639
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,039
150% for it it's it's a no-brainer it's

640
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,080
going to save money when you're talking

641
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,840
about you're cutting down expenses in a

642
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,519
business I'm just a businessman if you

643
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:44,000
can cut down my overhead and this is our

644
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,480
city we want to cut I want to cut the

645
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,799
city's overhead down and it does it and

646
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,760
it does it efficiently yeah I'm for it

647
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,320
no questions I got a question I

648
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,080
personally want to know what those white

649
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,279
flowers are cuz I want to put them on my

650
00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,710
La reverse

651
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,880
picture reverse

652
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,279
IM Jenny just said it Florida betney

653
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:09,440
Laura betney okay Laura betney I'll come

654
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,159
to

655
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:14,000
your I've got a I've got a question an

656
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,159
was the original proposal for the

657
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:18,760
Beachside and now this is a Citywide

658
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
proposal that might be why the

659
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200
commission sort of could be in favor of

660
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,200
it but um it's it you just said City

661
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880
wide well the the original proposal came

662
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,679
from Beachside neighborhood watch and we

663
00:31:32,679 --> 00:31:34,120
were originally just wanting to

664
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,799
encourage it on the beach side correct

665
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,080
but then as we you know and some of the

666
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,120
objections you had raised decided to do

667
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,519
the kind of a

668
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,519
clarifying purpose of it that it really

669
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,120
should be something that's addressed

670
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,559
Citywide so you know it's it's kind of

671
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,240
like the staff we're just asking them to

672
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,600
ask the staff to look at this yeah um I

673
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,679
think it makes sense Citywide where it may somewhat sense for the beach side

674
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:02,320
but uh you either we either do it or we

675
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,240
don't correct correct yeah yes it'd be

676
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960
nice to have some pictures idea what

677
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,880
this looks like exactly because I tried

678
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,679
a little experiment like that on my own

679
00:32:14,679 --> 00:32:16,320
property and in between those pretty

680
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,440
flowers we get lots of weeds M yeah and

681
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,279
weeds are a big problem and you're going

682
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,240
to have to pay a team of people just to

683
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,799
pick the weeds in between those pretty

684
00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:29,159
flowers we can't maintain what we have

685
00:32:29,159 --> 00:32:32,960
now well my entire yard I have zero

686
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120
grass my entire yard is native plants

687
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,240
yeah and when it's dry it Browns out but

688
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,880
then as soon as it rains it comes back

689
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,200
and it's gorgeous but I yes I understand

690
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,039
your from this the amend the amended or

691
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,840
the additional language that this isn't

692
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,799
superseding anything this is in addition

693
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:53,919
to what we

694
00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:57,200
already allow for landscaping it's it's

695
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760
asking them to to examine how what they

696
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,799
are allowing you know sometimes they'll

697
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:04,960
say the list trees or a type of plant

698
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,000
that should be planted and they're not

699
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,039
necessarily including natives or not you

700
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:11,519
know there's there's natives they could

701
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,039
use instead of um so we're just asking

702
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,679
them just want them to look at it we

703
00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:21,480
just want option put there it is is that

704
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,720
the bety that's at that's it at all the

705
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240
construction work that's going on it's

706
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200
just doing beautifully all by itself M

707
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,360
yeah you don't have to do anything to

708
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,240
those and you was there a a any mention

709
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,360
about the cost of doing a pro a project

710
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240
like this because if it is Citywide I

711
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
could see where I mean I'm not saying

712
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,440
that cost is any part of it but it is a

713
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,039
factor

714
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:54,159
um I could I could answer it's not it's not asking if there's turf

715
00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:56,720
grass out there already it's not saying

716
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,279
rip up the turf grass do something else

717
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,320
it's that if like when they're going to

718
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,360
do the new me they're going to do new A1

719
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,080
for allowable uses in future and they're

720
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,399
going to do new A1A let's have the city

721
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:11,000
at make sure that some of those

722
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,879
plantings are not turf grass that there

723
00:34:13,879 --> 00:34:15,480
are other Alternatives that can be

724
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,079
examined yeah okay I could add one thing

725
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,960
just one thing climate appropriate

726
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,359
things right just just one thing I think

727
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:24,800
it it would cut expenses down

728
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,320
tremendously on gram view I haven't had grass in front that's living you

729
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,240
know anytime so the the natural habitat

730
00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,200
is really meant to be there it's grass

731
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,320
is just not meant to live I can water it

732
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,280
I can do all these things I just can't

733
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,000
get it to live um and then you have uh

734
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,000
on East ISB before they did the road

735
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,720
construction most of that grass was

736
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:52,079
dying and didn't look good so maybe this

737
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,280
is a very good uh solution Solution

738
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,320
that's going to be cheaper in the long

739
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,240
run

740
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,240
because after so many years how long

741
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,880
does that Turf gas Last 5 Years out in

742
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359
the sun maybe before it Withers and then

743
00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,400
5 years we're doing it

744
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,079
again and you have to mow it and you

745
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,000
have to spray it so no I'm talking I I

746
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,920
was talking the uh artificial grass if

747
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,520
they put it in you got to remember that

748
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Heat's coming down and you got to think

749
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,720
of this sun you know doing it up north

750
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,400
is one thing doing it here in Florida on

751
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,920
the beach is another it's going to it's

752
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,240
going to fade not

753
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:32,720
sure good thought sorry so so one of the issues that they will have to

754
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,359
Broach is that you have to have an

755
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:38,320
educated um or

756
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,200
re-educated Landscaping team because as

757
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,240
Mr koplos said you know you have these

758
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,640
beautiful little white flowers here and

759
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,640
little yellow flowers here and weeds

760
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,839
come up in the middle well if you don't

761
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:51,760
know what that is that weed could turn

762
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,839
into a beautiful little low growing

763
00:35:54,839 --> 00:36:01,079
flower but if you don't know what it is so you know one of the challenges not

764
00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:03,680
opposed to this at all but um you know

765
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,200
they have to be willing to look at that

766
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,240
as well because you can't just send your weed eat guys out to a lawn like

767
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:11,839
this because I have a lawn like this I

768
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,000
let I let everything grow and if I see

769
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,400
something that is too bushy or

770
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,839
unattractive or has stickers on it I I

771
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:21,720
pull them out yeah um and I let

772
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,359
everything else grow and and I have lots

773
00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:25,119
of beautiful flowers butterflies bees

774
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,760
and everything um so that's kind of

775
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,040
right what we're hoping to go for so

776
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,400
might be nice to get a landscape

777
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,200
expert's opinion on yes and a and a like

778
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,000
a landscape expert that is not just into

779
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,280
you know making it look like carpet yeah

780
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,839
I mean you want it to look appealing

781
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:44,200
because that's yes right but I think but

782
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,640
that would be that would be something

783
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,720
that we would want to have stff feels

784
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,839
they need to do that then you know but

785
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:52,920
just let's get this kind of presented to

786
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960
them as something that we should cuz the commission when we presented our

787
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,200
initial one was all like oh yeah yeah

788
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,720
that sounds good that sounds good and

789
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,440
then po next item of business yeah but

790
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,000
we could do the leg work for them and

791
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,240
have a well we have Jenny

792
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,160
yeah presented first this also yeah well

793
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,800
I was just GNA say the first picture

794
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,599
that I sent down is what just came up by

795
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,319
itself even though they have been

796
00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:20,880
digging up and digging up but this other

797
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,720
long one is the Port Orange Bridge all

798
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,720
along all the way up to the ocean and it

799
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,079
is growing beautifully same I think you

800
00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:34,040
want it yeah I'd love to yeah yeah so

801
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,319
anyhow I think if you

802
00:37:36,319 --> 00:37:38,920
know we're just asking that you pass

803
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680
this so we can get it before planning

804
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,200
board we can get it before the

805
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,040
commission so that we can ask the

806
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,839
commission please ask staff to look into

807
00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:49,839
this that's what we're trying to do and

808
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:52,240
I also agree that so this is a I think

809
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,680
this is madees great sense okay good age

810
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,960
I'm glad want to come back up on this

811
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,880
got you for public com also from an

812
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,200
environmental point of view I believe

813
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,880
this is much better for the environment

814
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,560
than grass cuz you have to spray all the

815
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
poison that's right Amy so that's a big

816
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,640
point right now that's right and this is

817
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,920
not pass in between that is part

818
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,359
PL yeah that's what I

819
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:19,839
think we're g move on to public comment

820
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,760
on this John Nicholson come on up that's

821
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,470
what I

822
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:31,550
want thank you Jenny

823
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,480
johnon 413 North Grand View a um jny

824
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,280
first proposed this I thought well it's

825
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,319
a good idea because we are a Beach town

826
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,880
and unfortunately uh we were founded by

827
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Yankees so all of our landscape looks

828
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,359
like New England it looks like New

829
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,800
Jersey and we're not New England we're

830
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,599
not New Jersey we're we're Florida hey

831
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:58,040
I'm still a Yankee I'm a Yankee but you

832
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,800
still when you built your houses the

833
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,319
landscape at the time Helen please let

834
00:39:03,319 --> 00:39:05,440
me finish don't interrupt not doing

835
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,720
anything at the time when they came down

836
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,000
we now continue that Landscaping we have

837
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,359
a lot of the poporum and whatnot that

838
00:39:12,359 --> 00:39:14,280
are from up North they have to be

839
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,280
trimmed etc etc uh it takes Staffing all

840
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,480
right staffing has become extremely

841
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,240
expensive I don't know if you've driven

842
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,520
past McDonald's starting at $17 an hour

843
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,839
California's I think up 20 25 an hour

844
00:39:28,839 --> 00:39:30,960
when you do that it's not only what

845
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,720
you're paying now but when they retire

846
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,119
it's what you pay for the rest of their

847
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,720
lives all right so 40 Years of somebody

848
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,440
sitting on their butt making $20 an hour

849
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,800
is going to be expensive in the future

850
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,920
so when you design this uh we had a

851
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,400
problem with a18 all right and I've been

852
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,319
to like oakd oakd now had to be redone

853
00:39:52,319 --> 00:39:53,839
because the plants they put in didn't

854
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,400
last uh A1A the plants they put in

855
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,839
didn't last s

856
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:00,800
times um to the island they put

857
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,440
landscaping around the walkway didn't

858
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,160
last um a whena and ISB they put

859
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,319
Landscaping on those two corners except

860
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:11,359
for the big trees all the Landscaping is

861
00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:15,119
gone all right so when you replace all

862
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,880
of these things if you could put in the

863
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,119
grasses and the natives that don't need

864
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:22,520
to be watered they don't need to be

865
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,119
cared for like the grasses you cut them

866
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,160
once a year that's it take away the

867
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,480
foliage and it grows back and

868
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,880
everybody's happy so generally there is

869
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,119
no um Staffing cost or goes down

870
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,760
drastically watering costs go down

871
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,280
drastically because there is a problem

872
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,760
with water in the future I know Staffing

873
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,160
says oh no there's no problem we got

874
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,200
plenty of water that's what Las Vegas

875
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,960
thought there isn't plenty of water so

876
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,720
I'm asking you to definitely push this

877
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,040
not just for jetting not just for the

878
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,040
beach I need watch but for the C area

879
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,319
because we do want to be unique we want

880
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:03,240
to be different than Miami we want to be

881
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,440
different than Jacksonville we want to

882
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,520
be a Beach town and we're overbuilding

883
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,960
that's true and the more we build the

884
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,160
less we look like a small Beach Town the

885
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,599
only way we can hope to recoup that is

886
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:18,520
through our landscaping and our design

887
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,440
thank

888
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,920
you yeah I agree with you totally and

889
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,839
really what makes the city so great is

890
00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:27,359
the residents want to come here and

891
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:29,760
speak like yourself and that's something

892
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,440
I wanted to thank you for and I

893
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,680
appreciate you thank you and girls as

894
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,280
well just going to point that we have

895
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,119
people that have already been saying

896
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:42,400
just that same thing Y Man Jenny

897
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,710
nzac come on

898
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:51,400
up Jenny nasac 501 Harvey Avenue as a uh

899
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,480
in the profession of permac culture

900
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,240
which is a design system for creating St

901
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,000
able human environments that's a

902
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,160
mouthful but it's where we have the

903
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,119
human environment and we're working with

904
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,240
nature instead of against nature so now

905
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:09,400
plants right they look pretty they can

906
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,200
be nice they're also green

907
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,400
infrastructure they are sucking up storm

908
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400
water big time they are um supporting

909
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,359
the pollinators without whom we shall

910
00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:22,440
die yes like this is not some cute like

911
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,119
some people think environmentalism is

912
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,880
still a cute hobby it ain't cute like

913
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,359
we're into survival here and and then

914
00:42:30,359 --> 00:42:32,440
and but things like the flood waters and

915
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,880
things like that very very important and

916
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,640
also to not be using too much water all

917
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
that to be conserving the fresh pable

918
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,400
water that we do have so it's it all

919
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,000
kind of I like it when things all point

920
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,720
in the same direction and I'm also

921
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,960
hardcore fiscal conservative I can't

922
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,480
stand I can't stand waste when I hear

923
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680
things being like trees being being cut

924
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,640
unnecessarily there's like the the soft

925
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,040
environmental part of me but there's

926
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,920
also the the hardcore like fiscal

927
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,280
conservative like just stop it

928
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,920
man is going on like because but I don't

929
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,640
cut costs to just save a pile of money

930
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,280
and hoard a pile of money no I cut costs

931
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,440
to because money needs to be deployed to

932
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,440
other necessary situations all over our

933
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480
city like for example I I think every

934
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,119
bus stop needs shade for example like

935
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:32,839
needs needs some kind of shelter because

936
00:43:32,839 --> 00:43:34,400
people are going to be getting heat heat

937
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Str yeah yeah things like that so in

938
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,839
many areas throughout our beautiful city

939
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:44,960
where we have real human needs that are not being adequately addressed

940
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,440
every single penny we can save on

941
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,839
unnecessary maintenance of high

942
00:43:50,839 --> 00:43:53,839
maintenance Landscaping is is awesome

943
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:58,000
and then plus as John and others have pointed out it gives us this this

944
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,240
beautiful identity Mother Nature gives

945
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,680
us free um unique local Beauty like

946
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,839
she's like a free marketing agency and

947
00:44:06,839 --> 00:44:09,440
okay so that the plant Helen there's a

948
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,359
couple of plants that have that carpet

949
00:44:12,359 --> 00:44:14,440
aspect that are whitish or light purple

950
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,599
flowers that particular one is known as

951
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,359
Mexican Clover corre the Latin name

952
00:44:20,359 --> 00:44:23,079
richardus scabra and I believe that

953
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:25,119
would qualify as a Florida friendly

954
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,160
there's this gets kind of technical but

955
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,960
there's like native and there's Florida

956
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,359
friendly they all get along nicely they

957
00:44:32,359 --> 00:44:34,559
are drought tolerant they are flood

958
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:40,359
tolerant they don't need chemicals they get their own water so they're are

959
00:44:40,359 --> 00:44:44,280
friends and if you if a person chooses

960
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,319
like a person can mow their yard on a

961
00:44:47,319 --> 00:44:49,880
schedule and on the beach side if a

962
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,480
yard's not being chemically treated and

963
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,760
has not been overlaid with the

964
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,280
smothering carpet of sod grass you will

965
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,040
get a default the default would be a

966
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,280
multi-c carpet of it can be three or

967
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,440
four or five or seven types of flowers

968
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,520
and they they do a growth habit so if

969
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,200
you're the type of person who likes to

970
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,359
mow their yard you know a couple times a

971
00:45:14,359 --> 00:45:17,119
month in the dry season and you know

972
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,079
once a week or so in the wet season then

973
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,760
that carpet will be that height um

974
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,720
actually Miss Sandy Murphy has a a

975
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:28,160
classic yard that is called um the

976
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,559
Florida native plant expert her name is

977
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,960
Jenny styal and she's the definitive

978
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,720
Source on Florida native plants good she

979
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,280
talks about a thing called a freedom

980
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,520
lawn that is a lawn that needs no

981
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,079
chemicals and is just a carpet of all

982
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,359
the Florida natives now there is one

983
00:45:44,359 --> 00:45:47,040
plant that is very reviled by the turf

984
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,520
grass industry it is called dollarweed

985
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
oh every we are trained to hate it it is

986
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,319
in fact a Florida native and it is is it

987
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:59,359
is a pollinator support it actually has

988
00:45:59,359 --> 00:46:01,960
a small flower and supports pollinators

989
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,119
and it's actually edible I mean it's not

990
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:05,920
the yummiest thing in the world but if

991
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,319
you're you know you're desperate yeah e

992
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:12,240
it yes what one question because I is

993
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,040
there certain plants or things we can

994
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,079
plant that will help us more with flood

995
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:20,200
mitigation than more than other plants

996
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,920
some plants are thirstier than others is

997
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,359
there is there study done on that is it

998
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:28,160
yeah the No but way but it but what

999
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440
where there is like for example on the

1000
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,520
Florida Native Plant Society website

1001
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,079
they have a very large catalog of the

1002
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:39,720
water characteristics like the how how

1003
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,559
much water does it use what does it like wet feet oh wow there are

1004
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,359
certain plants now in my yard I have a

1005
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:50,520
clumping non-invasive bamboo that sucks

1006
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,280
up storm water I have Elderberry which

1007
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,119
is a wonderful immune tonic and makes

1008
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:59,640
really tasty jelly and that sucks up

1009
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,200
storm water so there's lots of different

1010
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,040
what kind of bamboo is it again it's uh

1011
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,119
oh I don't remember the name of the

1012
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,680
species I've got to look it up it's a

1013
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,720
clumping non-invasive bamboo so it

1014
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,480
clumps and it doesn't just like spread

1015
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,599
out like this please let me know yeah

1016
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,400
there's lots of thirsty plants like

1017
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,599
Cypress plants are thirsty like around a

1018
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:19,480
pond on the mainland you might see some

1019
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,119
Cypress plants the trees that's a giant

1020
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,640
storm water pump and like oak trees it's

1021
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680
a giant storm water yeah okay get the

1022
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,359
point um thank you well actually I

1023
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:34,319
wanted to speak on National Public Radio

1024
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:37,319
just recently I heard where indigenous

1025
00:47:37,319 --> 00:47:39,920
people used to use a particular kind of

1026
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,240
grass to weave you could actually put

1027
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,319
water in their basket they are now in

1028
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:47,599
the process of planting along waterways

1029
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,960
that particular uh type of B it's bamboo

1030
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,040
a type of bamboo and grass uh and that

1031
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,800
it they now know does incredible job of

1032
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,839
holding soil protecting against floods

1033
00:48:00,839 --> 00:48:03,680
and things uh so I wish I had listened

1034
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,559
more carefully interesting but they're

1035
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,119
actually planting and you can order

1036
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,599
pieces of it to plant in areas to help

1037
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:12,960
hold the soil that's very cool yeah good

1038
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,359
to know if you think of it yeah yeah let

1039
00:48:14,359 --> 00:48:17,520
me know and then healthy soil in general

1040
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,520
absorbs storm water better yes so if

1041
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,200
we're not spraying chemicals in the soil

1042
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,000
then the soil food web of all the

1043
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,319
microbes that it holds more storm water

1044
00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:28,520
yeah believe we have another question

1045
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,960
yes well Jenny's been at my backyard I'm

1046
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,839
a pass beekeeper Be

1047
00:48:34,839 --> 00:48:37,960
Heaven and I have all native plants in

1048
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,280
the back

1049
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,559
there uh I do have an irrigation system

1050
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:45,599
but I don't use it often uh my favorite

1051
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:50,000
is Periwinkles yeah I'm a perrywinkle

1052
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,760
guy they'll come up they come up they

1053
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,160
keep coming up uh and it's something

1054
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,760
like that you don't have to water on

1055
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,200
they about as native as you can get here

1056
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440
yeah buron is that a grass or a plant no

1057
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,960
it's a flower it's AOW it's a flower

1058
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,599
they grow about 18 in high white and all

1059
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:12,079
South Florida loaded with oh absolutely

1060
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,760
for there're they in the keys that was

1061
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,599
my whole yard but anyways I just put

1062
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:20,160
that in and uh I've added native

1063
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,160
trees and I think that one of the the

1064
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,520
areas

1065
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,280
it's can really be is

1066
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,440
uh the new buildings new hotels down

1067
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,000
along the beach everybody wants to put

1068
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,240
palm trees oh I know they you know palm

1069
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,119
trees is not a native

1070
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:41,160
plant but uh using the native trees and

1071
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,839
plants that grow they're salt tolerant

1072
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:46,119
you don't have to take care of them and

1073
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:47,960
I think that that's the area some of the

1074
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,280
bare areas along the beach we was just

1075
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,559
talking about that in the uh uh the

1076
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,000
commission meeting uh there's areas

1077
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,440
that's privately

1078
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,760
owned it's just bare they don't do

1079
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,520
anything they don't maintain it and

1080
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,280
everything and this would be a prime

1081
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,319
example for the city to have that in

1082
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:11,359
those areas uh they don't need a lot of

1083
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:13,480
uh care and everything have native

1084
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,559
plants in there and to make it look nice

1085
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:17,720
because the boardwalk one of the issues

1086
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,240
we're going to talk about tonight is one

1087
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,280
of the worst places in Daytona Beach

1088
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,520
right now it's it's past being so just

1089
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,799
putting that in comments thank you

1090
00:50:31,799 --> 00:50:33,400
everybody good all right thank you all

1091
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,040
thanks

1092
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,119
shenny does anyone want to make a motion

1093
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,599
to approve here oh we had make a motion

1094
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:43,160
to approve had it second well it came

1095
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,319
out early before the I'd like to make a

1096
00:50:45,319 --> 00:50:48,000
motion to approve this resolution and

1097
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,720
I all right all those in favor of the

1098
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:56,040
bnw resolution say I I all those opposed

1099
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,680
saying none

1100
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,480
passed all right yes thank you for

1101
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,599
persevering now we're moving on to our

1102
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:09,470
Beachside Redevelopment priority

1103
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,520
list everybody have that let me

1104
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,640
see I'm finally prind to see I think

1105
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,200
it's in our original yeah I got one of

1106
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,760
those as well Mr chair Ken Thomas

1107
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Redevelopment

1108
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,960
director

1109
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:31,680
um Jenny needs her own radio show yes I would recommend that yes

1110
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,599
um I well I learned a lot already just

1111
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:39,640
listening tonight um excellent so Mr

1112
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,720
chair um um board members advisor board

1113
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,640
members um as you know you you were

1114
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,119
appointed by your your mayor and your

1115
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:50,640
city commission to to be part of this

1116
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,119
Advisory Board and to help implement or

1117
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:57,079
help City staff and help advise

1118
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:58,760
the mayor and the city commission help

1119
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,559
City staff to implement the

1120
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:05,160
Redevelopment plan um for Main Street in

1121
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,400
South Atlantic um as you know the plans

1122
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,359
were created back in 1982 and 2001 um

1123
00:52:12,359 --> 00:52:16,760
respectively Main Street was um um 1982

1124
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,480
and um and the um South Atlantic was um

1125
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:26,319
2001 um 2008 both plans were um amended

1126
00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:29,920
and in 2011 the Main Street plan was

1127
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,079
amended um to incorporate um some of the

1128
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:36,559
goals and objectives of the um uh uh the

1129
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,920
ezone master plan so throughout the

1130
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,839
years this this is this plan has been in

1131
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:44,359
place for quite a long time but not

1132
00:52:44,359 --> 00:52:47,760
recently updated what it's been um 14

1133
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,880
years since 13 years since um any of the

1134
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,880
plans have been um um re relooked at and

1135
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,359
so it is a good thing that we've been

1136
00:52:57,359 --> 00:53:00,359
talking um throughout um our meetings

1137
00:53:00,359 --> 00:53:02,480
every month about you know what our

1138
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,799
priorities are and so with you all you

1139
00:53:05,799 --> 00:53:09,200
your your um recommendation to Let's

1140
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,480
establish a priority list and we'

1141
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,559
received over the last couple weeks now

1142
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:20,720
since we last met a number of issues and

1143
00:53:20,720 --> 00:53:23,000
concerns um that have been given to

1144
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,680
staff um regarding the main street in

1145
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,839
the South Atlantic um CRA in your

1146
00:53:28,839 --> 00:53:32,160
packets and you should have 11 by 17 of

1147
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,160
all of the issues and concerns that were

1148
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,960
given to us and so tonight what we want

1149
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,119
to do is go over those issues and

1150
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:42,839
concerns and I don't want to you know

1151
00:53:42,839 --> 00:53:46,040
belabor this but I think it's important

1152
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,240
um that we at least go through each and

1153
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,839
every one of them it's only 18 yeah it's

1154
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:54,280
18 of them but I think it's important

1155
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,040
that we go through each one of them

1156
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,040
and make sure that everyone understands

1157
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,440
what that particular issue um represent

1158
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,400
and if you have any questions we'll

1159
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,599
staff will try to answer them the

1160
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:09,319
respective um advisor board members know

1161
00:54:09,319 --> 00:54:12,839
who you are um they they they recognize

1162
00:54:12,839 --> 00:54:14,839
their information that was given to us

1163
00:54:14,839 --> 00:54:18,520
so if we don't correctly um establish

1164
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,319
what you intended please feel free to um

1165
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:25,079
correct us tonight in addition to it the

1166
00:54:25,079 --> 00:54:27,559
ones who were not able to in anything

1167
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:29,280
you will have an opportunity to add to

1168
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,880
our list so what I want to do tonight is

1169
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,079
just start with what we've been

1170
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,760
given I also want to indicate that you

1171
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,280
have about six dots um on your on your your Dees there that I will after

1172
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,799
the after the presentation is made we

1173
00:54:46,799 --> 00:54:49,119
want you to take those six dots and we

1174
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,880
want you to put those dots on the areas

1175
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,920
the issues and concerns that are most

1176
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,240
important to you now with the six

1177
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,319
if there's one issue out of the 18 that

1178
00:54:59,319 --> 00:55:01,760
we have you can take all six dots and

1179
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,079
put it on that one issue you can't it's

1180
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:08,440
up to you yeah um but if you have

1181
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,920
multiple issues yeah we have more dots

1182
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,640
you well we we don't want to give you

1183
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,799
more dots but but you can take those six

1184
00:55:15,799 --> 00:55:19,000
dots and and um you know subdivide them

1185
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,160
and and put two on one issue and maybe

1186
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,960
three on another issue and you got one

1187
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,880
left um so um it is up to you but I

1188
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,680
think six docs out of 18 issues that we

1189
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,799
have um established here tonight is

1190
00:55:32,799 --> 00:55:34,920
enough and what staff would do

1191
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,559
afterwards is we're going to take all

1192
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,559
your um indication with the dots and

1193
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:41,960
we're going to come back to the next

1194
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,839
meeting and um give you the results of

1195
00:55:44,839 --> 00:55:46,280
it matter of fact you'll probably have

1196
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,079
the results before the next meeting

1197
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:50,480
because we're going to um um categorize

1198
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,760
them into

1199
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,280
subgroups um and so you'll you'll have

1200
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,240
all this information so that when we

1201
00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:59,280
come back our next meeting we can have a

1202
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,359
full discussion about what everyone has

1203
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,599
um indicated and if you could please put

1204
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:09,920
your names on um your sheets yeah Ken

1205
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,839
there are about four areas in which all

1206
00:56:12,839 --> 00:56:16,160
of these fit too well yeah I mean sort

1207
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,000
of s some of them are sort of they

1208
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
correlate but we didn't want to we

1209
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,240
didn't want to join the ones that we

1210
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:25,880
knew correlated because again it's

1211
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,480
important

1212
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,640
um that the individual um staff

1213
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,599
individual um advisor board member um

1214
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,640
had their items listed and we want to do

1215
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,440
that oh no no absolutely after the after

1216
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,640
the listing thank you yeah I'm wondering

1217
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,760
if if after the dots are done you could

1218
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,359
stick those things on a board and we see

1219
00:56:46,359 --> 00:56:48,520
where the distribution is because I know

1220
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,599
that exterior the the look of both of

1221
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,319
these areas are the big or we we we

1222
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:59,240
thought about that Mr Libby but uh um I don't have 2020 Vision so if you sat

1223
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:00,960
up there you would be hard for you to

1224
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,960
see them here yeah so we just thought

1225
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,760
hey give you the the large 11 by 17 put

1226
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200
them on this sheet and we'll transfer

1227
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,240
them to um a one complete document that

1228
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,960
you'll know how many dots were on each

1229
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,039
particular

1230
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:19,920
issue now um if there is a lot I I can I

1231
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,559
can read every last one of them uh it is

1232
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:24,280
a pleasure of the board how you want me

1233
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,760
to do it sure I was intend on reading

1234
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,200
each every one okay so I'm going to

1235
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,640
start out with um the first one um is

1236
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,839
appearance standards are critical to

1237
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:36,280
include a more proactive stance on code

1238
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,480
violations and appearance improvements

1239
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
throughout the beach side area on both

1240
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,119
public and private areas a plan is

1241
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:45,920
needed to improve Lighting in the

1242
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,799
Beachside Redevelopment area to help in

1243
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:51,720
security concerns and improving General

1244
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,880
overall

1245
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,920
appearance both new directional signage

1246
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,599
and Pacific signage for available

1247
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,440
parking areas and new parking either

1248
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,480
purchased by the city and or shared with

1249
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,000
Lucia County's current parking lots a

1250
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,799
more complete and transparent method for

1251
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:13,720
funding current special events and new

1252
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,079
events utilizing Peabody and the Ocean

1253
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,720
Center to better balance the perception

1254
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,839
of the Main Street Corridor and

1255
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:24,000
entertainment Zone

1256
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,559
potential better communication with

1257
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,119
existing property owners and other

1258
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,839
partners concerning their responsibility

1259
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:34,680
as property owners and participants in

1260
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,880
the growth and future of the

1261
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:49,150
Redevelopment

1262
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,319
area you all have it on your sho I'm

1263
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:53,640
just going to turn it around for the

1264
00:58:53,640 --> 00:59:01,910
public so they have

1265
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,079
okay yeah they're not would have been

1266
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:06,319
helped if they were numbered too I think

1267
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:07,599
probably

1268
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:11,359
yeah okay helped a lot we can figure

1269
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:13,319
that out all right number five better

1270
00:59:13,319 --> 00:59:14,880
communication with existing property

1271
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,240
owners and other partners concerning

1272
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,160
their responsibility as property owners

1273
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,039
and participants in the growth and

1274
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:24,000
future of the Redevelopment area staff

1275
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,599
playing a more proactive role

1276
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:28,880
with other divisions within the city to

1277
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,720
remedy the obvious problems in the

1278
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,400
general appearance of the beach side the

1279
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,920
need for the boardwalk and Breakers Park

1280
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:36,920
to be

1281
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,920
renovated the challenges of housings for

1282
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,839
rent in the Surfside Village without

1283
00:59:42,839 --> 00:59:45,359
inspections and

1284
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:48,760
permits vacate vacant lot along the

1285
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,880
boardwalk which is not maintained

1286
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,079
properly and it is an isore for tourists

1287
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:56,400
and residents with graffiti on the walls

1288
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,480
and we're read I'm I am we did not

1289
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,760
change any of your verbage your grammar

1290
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,839
we just put it out there

1291
01:00:04,839 --> 01:00:08,520
um parking create a unified appearance

1292
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,599
of userfriendly parking options

1293
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:11,640
throughout the

1294
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,720
CRA survey all available public parking

1295
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,760
on city and county property well that's

1296
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280
just like the second one up here the

1297
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,200
first one on parking so uh you know I

1298
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,480
think what

1299
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,440
I think this one's public and the other

1300
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,720
one is County lots and City Lots I think

1301
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,039
that's the difference there Gary no they

1302
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:37,400
both say all all

1303
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,750
parking then you're just going to choose

1304
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,079
one yeah this is all about parking what

1305
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:48,319
I'm about to read from yeah 11 I think

1306
01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:50,799
this is number 11 this is all parking

1307
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:53,520
it's all parking and then bacon lot is

1308
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,960
another one Amy is that yours yeah

1309
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,079
mhm so the first it says survey all

1310
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,400
available Park public parking on city

1311
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,599
and county um properties number one

1312
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,720
allow free parking or enable modern

1313
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,000
paper Park systems number two unify

1314
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,359
appearance with clear attractive signage

1315
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:17,599
number three create a way for people to

1316
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,000
find parking via the app or Google

1317
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Maps allow businesses to charge a fee to

1318
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,480
park in their lot

1319
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,280
requiring a business tax receipt BTR and

1320
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,910
clear uniform signage we're still on

1321
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,799
parking

1322
01:01:37,799 --> 01:01:41,440
subsidize or pay churches to offer free

1323
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,319
parking public parking in their existing

1324
01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:46,160
parking lots and of course you know

1325
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,480
churches typically have um service on

1326
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,240
Sundays or on Wednesdays and mass and so

1327
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,160
you they the parking lot is um available

1328
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,720
many times of the of the week requiring

1329
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,160
a yearly registration with the city and

1330
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,440
clear uniform signage with times

1331
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,240
available and registration

1332
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,760
information identify properties that are

1333
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,319
only used as parking lots during large

1334
01:02:13,319 --> 01:02:15,720
events establish maintenance and

1335
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,160
appearance standards for these

1336
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,319
properties via the Land Development code

1337
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:22,920
text amendments including the following

1338
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,359
so this is basically saying that

1339
01:02:26,359 --> 01:02:29,160
you we want to establish this in the

1340
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,920
Land Development code but we're also

1341
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,000
telling you that it would take a Tex

1342
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,240
amendments which will include the

1343
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,720
following eliminate broken down fencing

1344
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,440
replace with a simple attracted border

1345
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,599
I.E painting the post so property

1346
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:47,680
remains inaccessible to Vehicles when

1347
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,000
there is no active permit signage

1348
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,079
requirements with clear attractive

1349
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,160
appearance that includes display of

1350
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,319
permits visibly seen grass is okay

1351
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,760
native low maintenance landscaping

1352
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,880
borders are

1353
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,160
encourage repair any Paving or replace

1354
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:12,920
with previous surface material keep free of

1355
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,520
trash require owners register the

1356
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,079
properties property or property as a

1357
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,440
temporary event pay

1358
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,079
parking and agree to comply with

1359
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,680
standards for participation as pay

1360
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,680
parking lots registration will remain

1361
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,000
active for a period of 2 years

1362
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,839
participation in any event will be

1363
01:03:34,839 --> 01:03:37,079
contingent on standards being maintained

1364
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:40,039
year round staff will perform and

1365
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:42,720
document at least four random

1366
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,760
inspections throughout the year and

1367
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,599
exite inspection when the temporary

1368
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:49,359
permit is granted so basically if you

1369
01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:52,319
have this permit the recommendation is

1370
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:54,960
that at least four random inspections

1371
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,000
will take place Place throughout the

1372
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,400
year and a site inspection when the

1373
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,000
temporary permit is granted you have to

1374
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,680
have that permit granted to you if

1375
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,960
violations are not cured within a period

1376
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,520
of 30 days the property will be dropped

1377
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,760
from the registration for a period of

1378
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,599
one calendar year and not permitted to

1379
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:16,640
participate and I'm assuming that's the

1380
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:17,599
following

1381
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:22,119
year yeah in the events in any events y

1382
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:23,839
work with the county to open the Main

1383
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:26,920
Street and Harvey Avenue Beach access to

1384
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,240
allow low tide parking and driving on

1385
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,920
the

1386
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,839
beach vacant Lots now we starting vacant

1387
01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:36,000
Lots survey vacant Parcels in the

1388
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,960
CRA establish clear enforceable

1389
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,880
maintenance and appearance standards via

1390
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,279
the Land Development code text

1391
01:04:45,279 --> 01:04:48,319
amendments and this is about vacant Lots

1392
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:50,880
tackle the worst and most visible

1393
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,079
first properties at the base of the um

1394
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:57,240
International Speedway Boulevard bridge

1395
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,319
at the base of the bridge former

1396
01:04:59,319 --> 01:05:01,480
locations of the amusement park on the

1397
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,119
boardwalk large group of assembled

1398
01:05:04,119 --> 01:05:07,160
properties at A1A and East

1399
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,760
ISB require lots to be brought up to

1400
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,000
minimum standards or take action and

1401
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,599
place a lean on the property to recoup

1402
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:15,599
the

1403
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,520
cost REM removing broken down fencing

1404
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,640
and remains from pre-existing structures

1405
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,760
or fixed sea walls and retaining walls

1406
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,559
those are code violations mhm well

1407
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:31,039
you've got Co three two other places

1408
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:34,839
where someone asks to maintain to

1409
01:05:34,839 --> 01:05:37,720
establish and maintain code and make

1410
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,520
sure that it's not just written on a

1411
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,599
piece of paper but we have active action

1412
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:45,079
right maintaining the code so yeah again

1413
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,559
I think you I I think I agree completely

1414
01:05:48,559 --> 01:05:50,119
with reading through the whole thing but

1415
01:05:50,119 --> 01:05:52,880
these if you cut them up and put them in

1416
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,839
piles I think you'd have probably five

1417
01:05:55,839 --> 01:05:59,119
in one four in another three in one and

1418
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:02,319
maybe two in in another pile because

1419
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:05,279
they're all dealing with the piles are

1420
01:06:05,279 --> 01:06:08,760
dealing with separate things yeah but

1421
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,680
yeah we not do it tonight but but I do

1422
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,119
want to point out that some of the

1423
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:15,319
things that are listed here is not a

1424
01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:18,279
requirement today right these are things

1425
01:06:18,279 --> 01:06:20,520
that we're going to have to implement

1426
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,720
you would have to implement the city

1427
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,720
would have to agree to implement code

1428
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,160
yes sir which is a lot of it is is

1429
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,240
excellent you know but you would you

1430
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,960
would have to go through

1431
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,119
the the the code Amendment the planning

1432
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:36,039
and zoning and Land Development code

1433
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:38,160
changes I mean I would trust the staff

1434
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,240
to to look at them and and realize that

1435
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,920
there are five nouns that are the same

1436
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,839
in in six of these and those should go

1437
01:06:46,839 --> 01:06:48,960
together because I

1438
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,880
think as my first paragraph in the or

1439
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,480
last paragraph said I'm sure my

1440
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,520
colleagues will have you know many that

1441
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,200
are similar or or or can could be

1442
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,319
construed or solved in in the same way

1443
01:07:03,319 --> 01:07:06,160
and so this is fine but I I I'd feel

1444
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,319
better if we whittel this down into big

1445
01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:10,200
categories that each one had three or

1446
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,520
four of these in it because then it

1447
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,680
makes sense rather than just but we can

1448
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,720
do that we can do that maybe at our

1449
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,000
next okay okay so City responsibilities

1450
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:27,000
any property owned or controlled by lecee or whatever should

1451
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,920
be held to the high standards for

1452
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,760
appearance fix broken fences and repair

1453
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,559
missing retaining walls public amenities

1454
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:37,400
such as Breakers park splash pad um

1455
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,240
coina Arch and the pier should be

1456
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,559
Immaculate both sides of the pier should

1457
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:46,160
be activated with City approved public

1458
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,559
art whether permanent or temporary could

1459
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:51,359
be funded with sponsorships that could

1460
01:07:51,359 --> 01:07:54,319
be noted within the artwork City own

1461
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:56,880
light poles with the old blue and white

1462
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,000
lights need to be fixed immediately

1463
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,760
front of Corin building needs to be

1464
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,240
cleaned up while we wait for a tenant to

1465
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,720
begin renovation windows are cloudy need

1466
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,559
a graphic or M over them stubby chopped

1467
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:17,189
up fence looks

1468
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:21,040
ridiculous um Florida pal light AT&T as

1469
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,759
a partner um FPL needs to be pulled in

1470
01:08:24,759 --> 01:08:26,759
as a partner in the appearance of the

1471
01:08:26,759 --> 01:08:29,319
Redevelopment area there is no excuse

1472
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:33,120
for Old Poles taking years to remove

1473
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,359
Hallelujah electrical boxes with

1474
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,279
graffiti and stickers need to be

1475
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,199
surveyed regularly and addressed

1476
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:44,319
immediately dangling obsolete wires AT&T

1477
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:47,920
cables of course um need to be cleaned

1478
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,040
up everywhere and they are everywhere

1479
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,679
yes um Main Street and A1A storefronts

1480
01:08:54,679 --> 01:08:57,080
this is this is is majority of private

1481
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,640
property now right um establish

1482
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,600
enforceable standards for appearance of

1483
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,239
storefront windows The Land Development

1484
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,000
code section

1485
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,799
6.14 section g I assume that's chapter

1486
01:09:09,799 --> 01:09:14,120
four and five addresses show Windows

1487
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,719
suggested changes to that section open

1488
01:09:17,719 --> 01:09:20,759
active business exhibit a the view of

1489
01:09:20,759 --> 01:09:23,400
the merchandise and Retail show Windows

1490
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,359
of of shall give give an un unobstructed

1491
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,920
view into the interior of the store at

1492
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,480
all times we need to have a

1493
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:38,080
view and the last and final

1494
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,719
page B the merchandise displayed in any

1495
01:09:41,719 --> 01:09:44,480
show window shall be maintained with an

1496
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:47,239
uncluttered appearance any item

1497
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:49,719
displayed words or images that are

1498
01:09:49,719 --> 01:09:52,719
sexual in nature or deemed for a mature

1499
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:54,960
audience can only be displayed at a

1500
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,920
minimum height of 6 ft from the level of

1501
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:02,600
the sidewalk outside or place back at a

1502
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,880
minimum of 4T from the window glass

1503
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,400
facing the street so that's

1504
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:14,239
internal um recommendation that it is at least 4 feet in height but away

1505
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,880
from the front of the the um Windows the

1506
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,040
front windows that face the glass well

1507
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,320
the idea the street six foot high so

1508
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,120
that kids walking by won't see it mhm

1509
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,560
and they people still get their First

1510
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,239
Amendment they can put whatever kind of

1511
01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:29,920
trash they want up that high or four

1512
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,440
foot back four foot back from the front window yeah what happens when they

1513
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,640
walk in the store then they walk in the

1514
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,120
store but it keep we're just talking

1515
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,480
about the from the street the

1516
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,320
familyfriendly atmosphere on the street

1517
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,080
yes on the street okay yeah from the

1518
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,000
sidewalk CU we we we already have some

1519
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,440
of that now in one or two

1520
01:10:53,440 --> 01:11:00,239
areas MH yeah yeah um for Lent um or other

1521
01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:03,000
painted um signage on the window itself

1522
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,320
must be limited to 20% of the total

1523
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,360
surface of any particular window owners

1524
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,520
of stores facing Main Street or North

1525
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,719
Atlantic Avenue within the CRA that have

1526
01:11:13,719 --> 01:11:17,280
no active BTR license or stores that are

1527
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,600
going to be closed for a period of more

1528
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,480
than 30 days must apply a perforated

1529
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:25,600
window graphic with a decorated design

1530
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,199
to the inside of their storefront

1531
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,360
windows to block The View into the

1532
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,719
vacant store I I that tickles me because

1533
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:35,159
we have so many meetings about you know

1534
01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:37,040
uh businesses that don't have a

1535
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,199
BTR um that are in the in the community

1536
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:42,280
yes sir you know they were talking about

1537
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,480
it's mostly the uh the stores down on uh

1538
01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:47,880
Main Street where they block off the

1539
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:52,639
windows during the during the the year

1540
01:11:52,639 --> 01:11:55,400
and then the three weeks right they they

1541
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,800
have them open and so they you know I

1542
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,239
think that it should be a a fast

1543
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,639
ordinance to make sure that none of the

1544
01:12:02,639 --> 01:12:05,440
windows are blocked off

1545
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:07,719
anyway unless it's going to be

1546
01:12:07,719 --> 01:12:11,000
merchandise yeah you mean blocked off

1547
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,600
what do you mean blocked I'm I was

1548
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,320
suggesting like a wallpapered up is what

1549
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,679
he oh yeah not wallpaper you have to

1550
01:12:17,679 --> 01:12:19,760
well you know what I mean papered up no

1551
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,800
listen so you want them completely clear

1552
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,560
to where people the police have a policy

1553
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,760
oh yeah that you can't block off the

1554
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,480
window without them being able to see it

1555
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:35,480
visualize inside the city even if it's

1556
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:38,760
an unoccupied doesn't make any no if

1557
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,159
it's unoccupied or whatever it has to be

1558
01:12:41,159 --> 01:12:44,120
viewed in right correct okay well in the

1559
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,239
LDC I think it says the view inside has

1560
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:48,080
to be broom swept

1561
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,760
uncluttered uh clean looking we don't

1562
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,880
have that so you know cross that off and

1563
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,120
put you know and I think just about

1564
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,480
almost two years ago we did a sweep on

1565
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:01,560
Main Street um we got a lot of

1566
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,719
complaints you know but because they

1567
01:13:03,719 --> 01:13:06,280
were the the storefront windows were

1568
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,760
cluttered M um but they were not meeting

1569
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,480
the

1570
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:12,000
code um and so we we got some

1571
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,000
cooperation to as well just over on seab

1572
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,760
breze I just had a store 305 seab breze

1573
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,560
that was blacked out

1574
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,520
totally I just took all of the paint off

1575
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,400
of it and cleaned the store inside and

1576
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,639
they are totally vacant nothing in it so

1577
01:13:27,639 --> 01:13:30,520
like for example Mr guest's building the

1578
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,719
guest it had three big windows up front

1579
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:35,120
that were all white can't have it it

1580
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,880
can't have it we do so not to have that

1581
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,440
not supposed to yeah absolutely and app

1582
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:42,040
plywood to as well we just passed the

1583
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,719
ordinance on no ply yeah it would be

1584
01:13:45,719 --> 01:13:47,560
easier for them to have the perforated

1585
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,320
Graphics if they're going to keep

1586
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,719
whatever they're going to keep inside

1587
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:53,679
correct as long as they can see inside

1588
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:56,239
yeah yeah

1589
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,320
and the next column is on

1590
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,840
Transportation um a free trolley to

1591
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,199
transport visitors and locals Between

1592
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:05,560
the Ocean Center Main Street Ocean

1593
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,199
Avenue A1A over to B Street and back

1594
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:11,159
across the Main Street Bridge um enforce

1595
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:14,320
illegal parking on the beach side and

1596
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,159
beautification of Main Street and make

1597
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:19,000
them active businesses all year

1598
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,480
round so those

1599
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:23,520
are the

1600
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,440
issues um that was given to us prior to

1601
01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:29,199
the meeting but I do Mr chairman want to

1602
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:32,560
take a few minutes and just ask everyone

1603
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,320
are there other items that we should

1604
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,040
list before you um do your your dot

1605
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,760
system we can add more now if you would

1606
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,320
like too if you if there is a a uh

1607
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,960
request by anyone that something we you

1608
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,679
didn't see that you think is a priority

1609
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:51,440
uh we can list it now you can write it

1610
01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:53,760
down and um put it on your sheet

1611
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,199
everyone will put it on your sheet and

1612
01:14:56,199 --> 01:14:59,440
um you can use one of your your dots to

1613
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:01,880
um as a priority issue for you what

1614
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,840
about the um native plants is that

1615
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,239
something that should be on there the

1616
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:08,120
use of native plants it doesn't have to

1617
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,719
be on there unless you want to make it a

1618
01:15:09,719 --> 01:15:13,440
priority so no no okay it's a different

1619
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:14,719
I think that the Redevelopment grants

1620
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:16,199
that we're doing are great but I do

1621
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:17,880
think it needs to be a priority to make

1622
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,600
them more accessible to everyone in town

1623
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,080
because I have had people come to me

1624
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,880
having trouble finding how to access it

1625
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,199
people that don't know about it for

1626
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:27,920
instance in here we also have under

1627
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,239
parking working with the county to open

1628
01:15:29,239 --> 01:15:31,440
the Main Street and Harvey beach access

1629
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:32,800
which I think is a great idea because

1630
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,040
right now we have people at the end of

1631
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,320
ISB no one can get to their business at

1632
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,480
the end of ISB okay and I know they're

1633
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:40,800
some of them are closing until they're

1634
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,880
done with all the road work I don't know

1635
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,360
that they know about the grants that we

1636
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,719
have or if there's a way that our grants

1637
01:15:45,719 --> 01:15:47,239
could help them with their rent because

1638
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,280
right now I know we have one that's

1639
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,360
going to be closed until January

1640
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,520
February until construction is done and

1641
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,600
we're just going to lose all the

1642
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,239
business over there same thing that

1643
01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:58,239
happened on Orange Avenue I mean what's

1644
01:15:58,239 --> 01:15:59,719
the good in redoing our road and our

1645
01:15:59,719 --> 01:16:02,560
ramp when it reopens there's nothing

1646
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,239
there yeah yeah yeah there there there

1647
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:08,360
have been some communities in the past

1648
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,000
where you had that that cor correlation

1649
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,239
between the county and the city and the

1650
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:16,239
CRA working together when they know they

1651
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:18,719
got a project working like this or if we

1652
01:16:18,719 --> 01:16:21,440
can have something to offer them you

1653
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:23,520
create a a fund so that you can help

1654
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,480
some of these small businesses through

1655
01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:28,480
that process right I know we have it's

1656
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:31,239
been done before yeah you know I think

1657
01:16:31,239 --> 01:16:33,679
everything on this list is is

1658
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:35,920
significant it it I mean I don't think

1659
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,040
there's there are any stinkeroo on here

1660
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,360
the question is are you interested in

1661
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,840
doing a priority list and the priority

1662
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,639
list isn't just the most important ones

1663
01:16:46,639 --> 01:16:48,520
it's that but it's the ones that are

1664
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,639
doable because many of these deal with C

1665
01:16:51,639 --> 01:16:54,199
the county and coordination with the

1666
01:16:54,199 --> 01:16:57,000
property owner and you know some of them

1667
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,840
are pure City ones it could be done

1668
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,679
could start tomorrow because it's all

1669
01:17:02,679 --> 01:17:05,120
under your umbrella of authority right

1670
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,320
so maybe maybe the staff could look at

1671
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,120
um based on the dots uh the priorities

1672
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,080
and if there's a top priority for a

1673
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,480
majority of us that doesn't make it

1674
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:19,840
because of the dots then I think we

1675
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,480
might want to amend well well well well

1676
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:26,239
Garett that's why you have the dots

1677
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:32,000
because it's we we want this to be the Advisory board's priorities and not

1678
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,080
staff

1679
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,360
priorities yeah yeah put a priority on

1680
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:41,199
your dot yeah you you you you need to utilize your dots we gonna

1681
01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:43,080
go to Garrett then we're gonna go over

1682
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,760
here gar gar was go

1683
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,600
ahead just out of curiosity the funding

1684
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,920
for the program comes from the CRA yes

1685
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,320
sir right how much money is in there

1686
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,280
right now we got a quarter of a million

1687
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:03,520
or is it half a million a half a million and once that's used up what

1688
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,440
happens after that yeah we we

1689
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:08,480
appropriate more

1690
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:13,679
next the c c yes sunshines soon is no no

1691
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:20,480
we sunshin in 36 3 yeah but we we had to start somewhere no no and we

1692
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:23,000
started at a half a million we hope we

1693
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,920
get to a million in in the year yeah but

1694
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,520
let me also say this if we spend a half

1695
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,719
a million before December we'll go back

1696
01:18:31,719 --> 01:18:34,239
to commission yeah and ask for more and

1697
01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:36,080
you'll get it and we'll get it the

1698
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:37,960
reason because we do have more to make

1699
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,960
sure that this is ongoing because yeah

1700
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,920
but we didn't want to stick a yeah yeah

1701
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,199
arbitrary number out there I think

1702
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:46,880
before you came on board the beach R

1703
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,159
development they did a study 10 12 years

1704
01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:52,440
ago yes we did about the exact same

1705
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:55,120
thing and then they looked at you know

1706
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,159
sometimes I think we get a

1707
01:18:57,159 --> 01:19:01,199
little too com too confused and too

1708
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:02,840
overworked up on stuff and we try to

1709
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,280
reinvent stuff okay you know um but all

1710
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,800
we have to do is really look at what

1711
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,800
other more successful cities are doing

1712
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,120
right in Hollywood Hollywood I think

1713
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,760
Hollywood was one of the more successful

1714
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,880
ones and they've got an ongoing program

1715
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,360
like this that has been going on for a

1716
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,920
very long time and they contribute quite

1717
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,520
a bit to businesses that are I better

1718
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,560
use of Redevelopment dollars than

1719
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,320
business yeah you guys are doing a great

1720
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,639
job well Helen and Veron okay I was at

1721
01:19:29,639 --> 01:19:31,719
the city commission the other night when

1722
01:19:31,719 --> 01:19:33,960
uh this was brought up by the the mayor

1723
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,840
and the the Commissioners you have to

1724
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,560
understand one thing with the CRA they

1725
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,760
have

1726
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,840
obligations that are ongoing all the

1727
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,960
time yeah uh we are a city with five

1728
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,719
C which is unheard of for a city of this

1729
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:53,600
size but that's neither here to there

1730
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,320
and some of them are getting ready

1731
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,760
to be out and once they're out you can't

1732
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,400
reestablish them very difficult so I

1733
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,159
think it uh what you've presented

1734
01:20:07,159 --> 01:20:09,840
tonight are the main things that the

1735
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,000
commission asked you

1736
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,280
to to put in I think you've done an

1737
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,760
excellent excellent job myself I

1738
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,080
prioritize my dots okay and when I run

1739
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,000
out of dots I put double stars on them

1740
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:32,040
okay good good good but I I think it uh this is

1741
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,320
help think this would be something that

1742
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,480
you could put together and prevent you

1743
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,000
know and bring it before the commission

1744
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,560
and maybe get some attention to some of

1745
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,239
these items absolutely that's that's the

1746
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,719
intent although some of these items may

1747
01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:49,880
be like I say redundant someone else may

1748
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,679
have have listed them um but we're going

1749
01:20:52,679 --> 01:20:55,560
to show you where they

1750
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,320
correlate but I also want this to be an

1751
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,800
exercise where you can see where like

1752
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,280
Minds may have some of the same

1753
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,199
priorities um but there will be cases

1754
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:10,719
where your priorities may not be a goal

1755
01:21:10,719 --> 01:21:13,840
of the CRA but it doesn't mean correct

1756
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,880
that somewhere in the city it should be

1757
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,280
taken care of correct so somewhere in

1758
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,320
the city everything that you basically

1759
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,840
listed some Department in the city is

1760
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,159
responsible yeah I can tell you that

1761
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:28,560
work somebody is going to take care of

1762
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,480
it yes thank you yeah so miss Helen and

1763
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:34,960
Amy well he said what I felt and I just

1764
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:40,000
want to say this is tremendously helpful

1765
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,000
and I'm I'm just very happy good thank

1766
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,480
you um I'd like to go back to what uh

1767
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:55,080
chairman Ellis was talking about um the businesses on ISB slight diversion

1768
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,520
but it it could it really this is this

1769
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,760
is tying in how many businesses are

1770
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,120
there that I'm aware of right now that

1771
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:09,639
are affected I think it's around five businesses if we had

1772
01:22:09,639 --> 01:22:12,520
$50,000 to as you

1773
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:18,440
know $25,000 you know as a a grant to

1774
01:22:18,440 --> 01:22:21,440
the businesses on ISB to help with rent

1775
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:24,239
or difficulty during this time is that

1776
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:26,360
something something that we can do right

1777
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,639
here like make a well you can you can

1778
01:22:28,639 --> 01:22:31,159
recommend to recommend to the city to

1779
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:33,639
the cities that for those you know

1780
01:22:33,639 --> 01:22:37,480
businesses that are affected by the ramp

1781
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:40,159
closures that can't get customers there

1782
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:43,400
anymore can apply for something or or

1783
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,159
any in the future too anything in theut

1784
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:49,470
we're talking about right

1785
01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:52,880
now the businesses on ISB that are

1786
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,800
affected they are mster CRA yes and we

1787
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,800
already have a grant that is called

1788
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,520
lease subsidy that we pay up to

1789
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,719
1,500,000 I mean

1790
01:23:03,719 --> 01:23:06,360
$1,500 a month up to three months00 a

1791
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,480
month yeah okay so they can apply and

1792
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:11,320
one of the business owner there has

1793
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,360
already applied for our grant so they

1794
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,400
are aware that we have those programs

1795
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,639
already done okay all right well that's

1796
01:23:19,639 --> 01:23:21,400
great that one of them already has maybe

1797
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:22,719
we just need to get the information to

1798
01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:25,840
the other ones too right

1799
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,199
any other way they can get in on the

1800
01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,080
other Grant I don't know how many are

1801
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,560
the responsibility of somebody else like

1802
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,400
fpnl I mean the polls are certainly not

1803
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,400
up to the city any Department of the

1804
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,880
city they have to be done by FP and

1805
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,360
other other you know I think those need

1806
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,679
to be identified because that's a little

1807
01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:45,320
pressure in the telephone that that

1808
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,239
would be a uh that would be Public Works

1809
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,159
we would lean on Public Works to make

1810
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,600
that connection yeah just to yes put

1811
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,239
comments in go ahead G that's kind of a

1812
01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:57,360
big issue right now that I was kind of

1813
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,560
dealing with on A1A because spoke to

1814
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,159
Dave in public works and he said well

1815
01:24:03,159 --> 01:24:06,239
FPL has 12 months to actually Remedy

1816
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:07,679
some of these situations I said 12

1817
01:24:07,679 --> 01:24:10,440
months if I call up as a a resident or a

1818
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,639
business owner which I do all the time

1819
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:14,040
even when it's not in my neighborhood

1820
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,679
and I'm like hey can you guys fix this

1821
01:24:15,679 --> 01:24:18,000
light it's been out for six months right

1822
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,800
and they have to fix it I think within

1823
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,719
45 days why is it a year when the city

1824
01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:25,080
has to go to the FBI

1825
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,360
to have them remedy situations like that

1826
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,080
I counted 30 lights between seab breze

1827
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,960
and and the ored line that are out that

1828
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,600
have been out wow for over a year yeah

1829
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,199
and when you get toward Bell Plaza it's

1830
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:41,080
like really dark down that way it's

1831
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,560
almost someone from FPL actually told me

1832
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,520
he's like if you want to get the ball

1833
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,040
rolling there's a particular safety

1834
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,920
standard that they have to abide corre

1835
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,280
and they have to speed it up you know

1836
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,360
when it becomes a safety issue I'm like

1837
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,800
it's very dark I mean it's kind of a

1838
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,840
little inundating for a tourist to

1839
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,440
actually try to walk on the other side

1840
01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:00,840
of the street there so that's definitely

1841
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,440
but that's how you get it done I mean we

1842
01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:05,040
tell people take pictures of the pole

1843
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,679
that has the number on it oh okay you

1844
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:09,480
know that's that's how you do take a

1845
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:11,360
picture of that pole that has the number

1846
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,880
on it I I I have one thing on South

1847
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,560
Peninsula as you turn to go on the

1848
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,199
Orange Avenue Bridge M there is a pole

1849
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:23,320
in the middle of the sidewalk and there

1850
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,600
is no way there there's a man that walks

1851
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,760
with his seeing eye dog he has to step

1852
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,280
into South Peninsula to go across the

1853
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,679
street because he cannot walk in the

1854
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:38,159
sidewalk the pole is right in the middle

1855
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:39,639
there's no way is that the intersection

1856
01:25:39,639 --> 01:25:41,960
so he has to walk yeah it's at it's at

1857
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,080
the intersection I believe yeah well I

1858
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,679
will take a picture of that I had I had

1859
01:25:46,679 --> 01:25:49,080
a I was walking my dog under a pole that

1860
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,400
I've been watch you know it's already a

1861
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,440
poll I've complained about but a cable

1862
01:25:52,440 --> 01:25:54,840
box literally fell

1863
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,600
off the pole and came down I thought it

1864
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,560
was a Transformer coming down I'm look

1865
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,560
up and this huge thing's coming down and

1866
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,000
it stopped about 5T above head because

1867
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,280
the cable kept the cable was still on

1868
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,679
there and it swinging away I got a video

1869
01:26:08,679 --> 01:26:11,119
of it swinging and it like scared the

1870
01:26:11,119 --> 01:26:12,840
hell out of me right so I called on

1871
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,320
emergency somebody came and tucked it up

1872
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:21,199
back in there but it's still there yeah so this is yeah okay we're like

1873
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:27,109
entering third world situation here yeah

1874
01:26:27,119 --> 01:26:28,920
oh and then there was one other thing

1875
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,239
one of you asked for other things this

1876
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:32,159
was an idea some of us were were talking

1877
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:34,360
about the other day what would how would

1878
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,520
it be if people wanted to paint a house

1879
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,679
or a building M even if they wanted to

1880
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:41,800
do it themselves with a you know without

1881
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:43,520
a contractor because painting is not

1882
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,600
something that necessarily requires

1883
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,480
skilled labor and they had they apply

1884
01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:51,320
for a uh paint

1885
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,679
reimbursement and they paint their house

1886
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,520
and then they say say okay here come out

1887
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,800
code whoever look at the house how do

1888
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,119
you like it looks good I spent $500 on

1889
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:04,000
two giant five gallon buckets of paint

1890
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,719
and we can reimburse them is there

1891
01:27:05,719 --> 01:27:08,040
something simple we can do like that we

1892
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,280
don't have a paint reimbursement program

1893
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:11,920
but we have a paint program where you

1894
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,880
have to get if you're in a Redevelopment

1895
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,320
area you have to get approval from us to

1896
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,639
paint the the paint colors color right

1897
01:27:19,639 --> 01:27:22,440
um that's a little different and the the

1898
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:25,840
only gr requires the only thing is um

1899
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,760
about that you you have to create some

1900
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,239
criteria right um for you know a paint

1901
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:33,199
program code

1902
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,320
enforcement um one of the things that

1903
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,719
they want to do is if they found someone

1904
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:41,320
who you know has some code violations

1905
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,679
such as chip paint or something that's

1906
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:45,320
happened to the exterior of the building

1907
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,800
as opposed to taking them to code

1908
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,560
enforcement they want to have the

1909
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,080
ability where they can utilize some of

1910
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,560
our CRA funds to do something similar to

1911
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,800
what you're talking about Home Dep yeah

1912
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,520
but it's not for it's not for everybody

1913
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,080
it is if you have a violation a

1914
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,000
potential violation that has been

1915
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,080
identified by your code officer you will

1916
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,840
have some type of voucher that you can

1917
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,679
go to one of the hardware stores and buy

1918
01:28:10,679 --> 01:28:12,840
paint but then it has to the painting

1919
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,159
has to get done the painting has to get

1920
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:18,679
done IDE I mean you know these are these

1921
01:28:18,679 --> 01:28:21,800
are ideas that you know if if if there's

1922
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,520
a priority it could be implemented but

1923
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,679
of course you got to create the program

1924
01:28:26,679 --> 01:28:29,400
right you know with code enforcement

1925
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,679
they have a it's a code if you have

1926
01:28:32,679 --> 01:28:36,600
peeling paint your sad or the faes

1927
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:40,040
coming off that they will help you get

1928
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,320
that oh that's yeah that's what he's

1929
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,199
talking about but not repainting your

1930
01:28:44,199 --> 01:28:45,960
house just because you want to change

1931
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,280
color yeah yeah it has to be a violation

1932
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,400
a potential a potential

1933
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,119
violation uh the next thing on the

1934
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:58,520
stores that are I've had somewhat

1935
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,080
experience uh I redid Orange Avenue

1936
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,600
through

1937
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,159
Orlando did the rest streets and

1938
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:09,560
everything you can require do to have a

1939
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:14,360
minimum of at least one entrance to any

1940
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,719
store you can require that you don't

1941
01:29:17,719 --> 01:29:19,000
have to ask

1942
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,360
them are they because they can't shut

1943
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,600
down a business I notic the one business

1944
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,520
that's fired up yeah but I think that

1945
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,960
how do we do that well you just go to

1946
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,480
the city goes to do and says that that

1947
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:35,560
you have to no that wait a minute

1948
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,440
there's just not any other way and you

1949
01:29:38,440 --> 01:29:42,119
can require them to do it regardless of

1950
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:43,639
what they

1951
01:29:43,639 --> 01:29:46,000
say is that something we can look into

1952
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,800
entrance like a driving into the

1953
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,280
driveway they have the whole store wired

1954
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,119
off yes they have everything closed off

1955
01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:54,239
but anyways regardless they can they can

1956
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:57,360
stop you from going in in the the

1957
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,600
parking I see you know because that you

1958
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,000
know you're repouring concrete and

1959
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,560
everything and you're you can do that

1960
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,880
but uh that's up to the city now now

1961
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,480
help me was that for access to the bu

1962
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:12,080
business doing roadway construction or

1963
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,639
absolutely is that what we're saying MH

1964
01:30:15,639 --> 01:30:18,199
okay so one of those businesses I think

1965
01:30:18,199 --> 01:30:20,040
there was in the newspaper you still

1966
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,560
have access customers still have access

1967
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:29,080
to the business mhm just that no parking right no parking and access

1968
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,639
one way is see the parking is a

1969
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:32,280
different issue they just have to have

1970
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,520
access to it yeah so it's not the access

1971
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,840
is been cut off it's just no parking

1972
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,119
park down there

1973
01:30:39,119 --> 01:30:43,000
anyways we've had we've had constant

1974
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,239
problems dealing with code people in the

1975
01:30:46,239 --> 01:30:48,480
historic districts who have design

1976
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:51,080
standards and colors that the houses can

1977
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,600
be painted to the point where the city

1978
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,400
told um our neighborhood watch Group

1979
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,920
which is seab breze University that they

1980
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:01,880
were just going to let people paint

1981
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,960
their houses any color they want because

1982
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,800
they didn't feel that the city should be

1983
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,560
asking them to repaint the house

1984
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:11,800
according to the standards standards as

1985
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,560
a matter of fact Miss hansy was at the

1986
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,000
historic preservation Advisory board

1987
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,840
meeting when they didn't even know they

1988
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,600
were standards the board was making

1989
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:24,719
decisions on items in the in this Z Zone

1990
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:28,000
without realizing the city had a a book

1991
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,840
a guide book to do it so I think maybe

1992
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,480
City coordination would be good too one

1993
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:36,040
of the things I said in here was that

1994
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,760
are that being proactive but also with

1995
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,159
other departments in the city to really

1996
01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:45,639
make it work for everybody yeah yeah

1997
01:31:45,639 --> 01:31:49,320
okay all right anyone else yeah mine's

1998
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,280
just really simple I'm very pleased with

1999
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,119
this it's well presented by the staff I

2000
01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:55,880
greatly appreciate mhm the STA a lot of

2001
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,840
work and the the most important thing

2002
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,560
that I'm on there I'm on here now uh the

2003
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,199
most important thing that I really think

2004
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,920
on this thing is the staff playing a

2005
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,520
productive role proactive role right uh

2006
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,040
with divisions within the city to remedy

2007
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,159
obvious problems the thing is is that

2008
01:32:17,159 --> 01:32:18,760
not because you all are in front of me

2009
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,920
right now I've lived here for a long

2010
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,520
time and and and you the staff deserves

2011
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,440
the credit I believe probably in the

2012
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:30,080
past 20 plus years this the best staff

2013
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,719
we've had in the city yeah so you know

2014
01:32:33,719 --> 01:32:36,600
Kudos great job great job Angela great

2015
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,159
job Ken it's just all of you um to me

2016
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:42,760
that's the most important uh the illegal

2017
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,320
parking on Grand View I think

2018
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:48,719
immediately when I had said something um

2019
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:50,679
started giving tickets so at least

2020
01:32:50,679 --> 01:32:51,960
people could get out of I could get out

2021
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,600
of my driveway um

2022
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,159
so I I I really feel happy I think this

2023
01:32:58,159 --> 01:32:59,440
is the best of the city's been since

2024
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:03,320
I've lived here over over 25 years now

2025
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,600
uh that's about it I'm just happy okay

2026
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,639
thank

2027
01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:13,480
you no good I'm happy with this okay so

2028
01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:16,080
we we're going to come back as staff and

2029
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,280
um at our next meeting and we're going

2030
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,040
to uh articulate to you the uh results

2031
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,480
of the prioritized list

2032
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:28,320
um but we what we also will do um for

2033
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,560
those items that are not

2034
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,119
directly um involved in the

2035
01:33:34,119 --> 01:33:36,480
Redevelopment plan itself because

2036
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,159
everything that we do has to be part of

2037
01:33:39,159 --> 01:33:41,080
the Redevelopment plan and really

2038
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,480
there's like five goals um that you have

2039
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:49,040
to take all this information and and and

2040
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,920
um correlated to what the Redevelopment

2041
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,320
plan says now

2042
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,639
but what we're going to do is the ones

2043
01:33:56,639 --> 01:33:59,639
that don't correlate to the goals of the

2044
01:33:59,639 --> 01:34:01,800
Redevelopment plan we're going to create

2045
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,280
a strategy where we're going to connect

2046
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,360
them to a particular department or

2047
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,679
entity correct so that what you've given

2048
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:13,080
us is not just in vain corre it will go

2049
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,360
somewhere it will be attached to some

2050
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,840
entity some department and and

2051
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,560
throughout our course of um activities

2052
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:24,280
um

2053
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,639
we'll we'll have updates from from those

2054
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:28,880
particular departments because there's a

2055
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,440
priority of um the Beachside

2056
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,080
Redevelopment board maybe it's not in

2057
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,679
the Redevelopment plan maybe it's not a

2058
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:37,520
goal of the Redevelopment plan but it's

2059
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,239
a goal of the Redevelopment advisor

2060
01:34:39,239 --> 01:34:41,480
board so that we have a better quality

2061
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:43,600
of life and so that's what we understand

2062
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,760
with this list the list is really about

2063
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,280
quality of life and it may not be in the

2064
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,239
Redevelopment plan but it may be

2065
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:52,920
somewhere that departments in the city

2066
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,520
need to be respons

2067
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,840
most of them are in actually in in one

2068
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,400
of the plans we've done yeah yeah they

2069
01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,080
are okay all right well thank you thank

2070
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:07,070
you Ken thank you

2071
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,590
Angela

2072
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:14,639
right okay again please remember to put

2073
01:35:14,639 --> 01:35:18,480
your names on the the

2074
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:24,280
sheets are we to turn them in tonight I believe that's what staff would like

2075
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:29,719
oh I wanted to study it oh gosh yeah why

2076
01:35:29,719 --> 01:35:32,960
not it's it's Mr chair I mean if for the

2077
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,679
ones who ones who did it tonight we'll

2078
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:39,159
take them but if you want to hand them

2079
01:35:39,159 --> 01:35:41,679
in maybe the next couple days that's

2080
01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:44,360
fine too I I want to talk with the other

2081
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,000
people at in my store my son and his

2082
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,880
wife I like okay that that' be fine yeah

2083
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,880
good and I and the staff has I think at

2084
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,080
least for me and I'm sure my colleagues

2085
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,760
full authority to batch them the ones

2086
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,560
that look very similar you know that

2087
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:06,199
except for a word or two I think they can go together because um they're

2088
01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:08,440
probably I was trying to follow you Ken

2089
01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:11,880
there're probably five areas you know

2090
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,639
five areas that just about everything

2091
01:36:13,639 --> 01:36:16,119
could five hats that you could toss

2092
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:18,679
things in and out of the five

2093
01:36:18,679 --> 01:36:23,600
two are currently achievable by the city

2094
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,679
one by fpnl you know so three out the

2095
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:31,320
five yeah are not that hard to do if we

2096
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,320
all if it's a full City effort everybody

2097
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,520
pushes works together I think you could

2098
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:41,430
have some real serious

2099
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:55,040
progress all right

2100
01:36:55,050 --> 01:37:06,310
[Applause]

2101
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,400
what else do we have yeah that's what

2102
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,760
I'm looking at what else do we have here

2103
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,960
do we have a PDF the last item is the um

2104
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,679
the recommendations from the Beachside

2105
01:37:15,679 --> 01:37:18,760
Redevelopment committee that met back in

2106
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:23,119
whatever year that was that's it's the pamphlet that's at the end of the

2107
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:24,400
agenda

2108
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,159
yeah um that was produced by I think it

2109
01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:29,199
was a meetings that went on for about a

2110
01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:33,040
year wasn't it um

2111
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,440
and this is the one we you know we've

2112
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:37,480
talked about kind of it you know it's

2113
01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:39,000
got a lot of information and it's not

2114
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,239
something we're going to go through line

2115
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:43,520
by line tonight I hope but um is this a

2116
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,360
private group different neighborhood no

2117
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,239
the Beachside Redevelopment committee

2118
01:37:47,239 --> 01:37:49,760
does it show in here who was on it it

2119
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,679
does it does it was um Tony grippa RNE

2120
01:37:53,679 --> 01:37:55,920
Cruz Derrik Henry Dave Lamont Kent

2121
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,119
Sharpes Paul Zimmerman Charles

2122
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:02,080
liman um Harry Jennings Aaron Delgado

2123
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,320
John Albright Chris bowler Miriam guabi

2124
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,440
Troy Kent and Frank

2125
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:10,920
molar and they met over at the uh I

2126
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,920
think it was at the Ocean Center in a

2127
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:16,400
meeting room um once a month for I feel

2128
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,679
like it was like a year year who

2129
01:38:18,679 --> 01:38:20,840
authorized this committee the county the

2130
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,760
city and the county it was a county

2131
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:24,239
thing look at it

2132
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:27,239
it's in your agenda there on the agenda

2133
01:38:27,239 --> 01:38:28,679
and they produced you know they had

2134
01:38:28,679 --> 01:38:30,719
meetings they talked they had speakers

2135
01:38:30,719 --> 01:38:33,599
they had you know it was very I went to

2136
01:38:33,599 --> 01:38:35,719
almost every one of these meetings and

2137
01:38:35,719 --> 01:38:39,159
then they produced this document and

2138
01:38:39,159 --> 01:38:41,280
where is it it's in your it's in your

2139
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:45,679
packet Mr um on last meeting while we

2140
01:38:45,679 --> 01:38:47,960
were talking about the priority list it

2141
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,080
was brought to our attention that this

2142
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,480
document was produced and that it was a

2143
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:56,520
very good idea that you all take a look

2144
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,400
at this document so we can know what the

2145
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,800
recommendation were um um that this

2146
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:08,199
committee was tasked to develop ideas

2147
01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:11,960
for improv the beach side Redevelopment

2148
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,360
areas so that's why I includeed in your

2149
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,080
packet so we don't have to discuss it

2150
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,119
now it's just for your information in

2151
01:39:20,119 --> 01:39:23,000
case you think that it's a good idea

2152
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,599
that we can Implement now in our

2153
01:39:25,599 --> 01:39:28,239
priority list we can do so right A lot

2154
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:30,320
of them are similar exact a lot of it is

2155
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,800
very similar that's what there yes you

2156
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:38,360
know the is landscape crosswalk um Road

2157
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:39,679
improve

2158
01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:42,360
Improvement how we look it's basically

2159
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,040
the same I just wanted to include it

2160
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,080
because you you said you know you show

2161
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,599
interest the meeting yeah thank you

2162
01:39:49,599 --> 01:39:53,669
Angela okay

2163
01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:55,040
have any comments on this or does

2164
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:56,400
everybody want to yeah I mean it's

2165
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,840
pretty much the same thing we've been

2166
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,119
discussing we'll move well but it's it's

2167
01:40:00,119 --> 01:40:06,920
very important because this group is the um followup group for the board

2168
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,000
that was taken over by the county that

2169
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,440
ran the Redevelopment area for a number

2170
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:13,800
of years I don't know if any any of you

2171
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,599
were here Helen was no I um the county

2172
01:40:17,599 --> 01:40:21,159
just you know decided we we in the city

2173
01:40:21,159 --> 01:40:23,719
couldn't handle Redevelopment and had a

2174
01:40:23,719 --> 01:40:25,920
board an independent board I'm trying to

2175
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,719
think of who was on it uh and they met

2176
01:40:28,719 --> 01:40:32,560
for I believe two years and then um the

2177
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:36,080
city uh met with them and discussed

2178
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,719
having a city advisory move the city

2179
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:41,320
Advisory Board back but this is a very

2180
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,679
serious I think document they did um for

2181
01:40:44,679 --> 01:40:46,400
the County Council and of course they

2182
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:49,320
authorize Redevelopment areas they they

2183
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:52,440
have a they have a big stake in our in

2184
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:55,360
our success our failure and so I I'm

2185
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,199
going to look at it very carefully I I

2186
01:40:57,199 --> 01:41:00,199
didn't not realize why it was in there I

2187
01:41:00,199 --> 01:41:03,400
apologize all right ready for public

2188
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,840
comments on that we have a few uh John

2189
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:11,550
Nicholson come on

2190
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:16,350
up most

2191
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,000
stuff joh Nicholson 413 North Grand

2192
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,360
Avenue yeah City commission meeting U

2193
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,800
Derek the kind of gave me a

2194
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,560
going over for jesting this because you

2195
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,639
know how to get this yeah I do but the

2196
01:41:28,639 --> 01:41:31,280
public doesn't public doesn't know this

2197
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:32,800
how many of you have seen this list

2198
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:36,000
before today what list you're talking

2199
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:39,520
about the one that you just that list

2200
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,760
and discussed it all right I don't think

2201
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:46,960
you guys ever discussed it all right we we just know we just why no no no but

2202
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,320
he's had it he said oh you all knew it

2203
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,199
and I'm like no they don't and the

2204
01:41:52,199 --> 01:41:57,119
public doesn't know it this was all wait wait wait stop from last stop stop

2205
01:41:57,119 --> 01:42:00,159
this is what I spoke to Derek fer about

2206
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:01,920
yeah all right I'm not going to get my

2207
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,639
time you know so um there are other

2208
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:06,040
things here the Florida Power and Light

2209
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:08,960
poles cannot be taken down the problem

2210
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,119
with that is Flor power light owns the

2211
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,199
poles but they don't own the wires and

2212
01:42:14,199 --> 01:42:17,480
unless AT&T moves their wires that pole

2213
01:42:17,480 --> 01:42:19,480
will stay up there indefinitely

2214
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:22,520
Tallahassee ruled several years ago that

2215
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,360
we now know longer have control over the

2216
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,440
poles on our property although we give

2217
01:42:26,440 --> 01:42:28,599
them permission to use our property we

2218
01:42:28,599 --> 01:42:31,280
have no more control over it so we

2219
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,159
really Essence unless we gripe and

2220
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:35,520
complain nothing's going to be done so

2221
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,880
you have to gripe and complain it's

2222
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,639
nothing the city can do uh secondly you

2223
01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:43,400
only have like less than 13 years left

2224
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:47,400
on the C for beat side all right so the

2225
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,880
last time we discussed using the funding

2226
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,679
which is called tip funding the screwed

2227
01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:56,239
it up we were supposed to have two brand

2228
01:42:56,239 --> 01:43:00,000
new hotels actually Four

2229
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,000
hotels on the vacant property on uh

2230
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,280
South Avenue all right George there was

2231
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,719
a uh two hotels came

2232
01:43:09,719 --> 01:43:11,920
in they didn't want tip funds they were

2233
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,639
going to do it on their own well you saw

2234
01:43:14,639 --> 01:43:17,040
the price of everything go up and then

2235
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,599
the city wanted 40t of their property

2236
01:43:19,599 --> 01:43:22,320
for free and then they wanted the city

2237
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,080
wanted them to m match the boardwalk at

2238
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,040
their

2239
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,639
expense so this was too much for them so

2240
01:43:28,639 --> 01:43:31,360
they wanted tip funds 3 million bucks

2241
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:35,760
the city said okay after a haggling then

2242
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,360
they said the price of everything went

2243
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:38,760
through the roof if you remember several

2244
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:40,920
years ago you just couldn't keep up with

2245
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,159
everything was going through the roof

2246
01:43:43,159 --> 01:43:45,280
they went up to 8 million the city said

2247
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,119
yes they went to sign the documents and

2248
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:49,480
the city said

2249
01:43:49,480 --> 01:43:51,880
no we said yes to the 8 million but

2250
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:53,400
we're taking it back we're only give you

2251
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,000
3 million so the two hotels by the

2252
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,119
boardwalk were cancelled which then the

2253
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,679
guy at the end from uguay canceled his

2254
01:44:01,679 --> 01:44:04,040
building so we are shooting ourselves in

2255
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:08,520
the foot all the time we've stopped nine

2256
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,000
buildings in RC we almost stopped the

2257
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,520
10th one on Silver Beach it barely got

2258
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,760
passed but we are shooting ourselves in

2259
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:21,400
the foot um with regard to uh city

2260
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,400
property and County property we have

2261
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,520
control over it and almost all of our

2262
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:29,760
city and county property is not in the

2263
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,280
best standard it really isn't all right

2264
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:36,080
you go to um sebr Park SNB you go to the

2265
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,080
boardwalk you go to Breakers Park you go

2266
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,440
to or Street Park no matter where you go

2267
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:43,520
our properties are the pits Peabody is

2268
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,719
not well taken care of I just went to

2269
01:44:45,719 --> 01:44:47,320
the property that the city owns in the

2270
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,880
middle of the marina they staffed all

2271
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,920
their garbage chairs tables broken down

2272
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,119
equipment on the backside where

2273
01:44:56,119 --> 01:44:58,440
everybody walks to get to the boat it's

2274
01:44:58,440 --> 01:45:01,280
all sitting there visible so we are not

2275
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,239
containing or own so I'm asking you to

2276
01:45:03,239 --> 01:45:06,440
put in this as a high priority all city

2277
01:45:06,440 --> 01:45:09,639
and county property in the CRA because

2278
01:45:09,639 --> 01:45:10,800
we have control over it we have the

2279
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,239
money for it fix it up to the maximum if

2280
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,040
you want to see something really bad

2281
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,000
we're getting a new marit Renaissance

2282
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,360
you're doing the Landscaping now walk to

2283
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,320
the county bathroom next to it I know is

2284
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,400
the pits it's a mess and we're talking

2285
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,639
this is going to be a fourstar which is

2286
01:45:27,639 --> 01:45:29,599
right next to another fourstar which is

2287
01:45:29,599 --> 01:45:31,920
down the street from another fourstar

2288
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,599
and that bathroom it looks like

2289
01:45:34,599 --> 01:45:38,199
1950s it really is bad so I'm asking you

2290
01:45:38,199 --> 01:45:41,480
to not just us but all of our property

2291
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:43,280
and all of the County Properties because

2292
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,920
they're renovating the properties on the

2293
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:47,880
beach as we speak they're tearing down

2294
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,159
three or four of the bathrooms to

2295
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:52,440
replace them I don't ask them to tear it

2296
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:55,159
down just gut it and make it modern it

2297
01:45:55,159 --> 01:45:59,800
is really the pits and lastly um you

2298
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,840
have hidden money I know they don't call

2299
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,000
it that way and Paulo Reed Goes Bananas

2300
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,599
whatever I say it but there's been money

2301
01:46:07,599 --> 01:46:10,840
in your facility for years that we don't

2302
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:14,560
know about M uh was it Midtown CRA when

2303
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,159
they wanted to redo Orange Avenue Chism

2304
01:46:17,159 --> 01:46:18,199
says oh yeah we're going to take that

2305
01:46:18,199 --> 01:46:20,480
million dollars that you have in your

2306
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:23,440
CRA towards redoing Orange Avenue and

2307
01:46:23,440 --> 01:46:27,320
they go what million they had no idea

2308
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,080
for years you've had money that the

2309
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,840
city's put aside for future development

2310
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,960
but they never told you what it is so

2311
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,800
it's hard for you to balance things if

2312
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,560
you don't know what it is now from what

2313
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,960
I understand you got $6

2314
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:45,520
million in funding from TI uh from

2315
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:51,119
um the SI you owe 2.4 million if I

2316
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:53,080
understand it correctly with the loan

2317
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,560
that you took out for the buildings that

2318
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,480
we backed which gives you approximately

2319
01:46:57,480 --> 01:46:58,679
$4

2320
01:46:58,679 --> 01:47:01,920
million that's not Chum change you owe

2321
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,040
probably about a million

2322
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,520
dollars it's kind of a dishonest way to

2323
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,320
jib Chism change things around so that

2324
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,400
you paid for things you shouldn't have

2325
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,440
so you have $3

2326
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:16,639
million that you can encourage can't

2327
01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:19,199
tell them you can encourage the city

2328
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:21,480
Commission because at a meeting two

2329
01:47:21,480 --> 01:47:24,280
months ago they decided to put interest

2330
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:27,880
on beide finally after 20 years so if

2331
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,679
they're going to think about beide put

2332
01:47:30,679 --> 01:47:33,159
your two cents worth in when you can

2333
01:47:33,159 --> 01:47:37,350
thank you thank you

2334
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,679
John all right moving

2335
01:47:40,679 --> 01:47:42,880
on Jenny did you want to speak on that

2336
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,119
or public comment Public public comment well we're moving on the

2337
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:48,239
public comment anyway because that's

2338
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:50,520
where we are okay that's

2339
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,460
um come on up Jenny s

2340
01:47:53,460 --> 01:47:56,520
[Laughter]

2341
01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:01,679
Denny naak 501 Harvey thank you for the list of the various uh priorities

2342
01:48:01,679 --> 01:48:03,639
and things that's excellent I would like

2343
01:48:03,639 --> 01:48:06,320
to add to the thing about lighting I

2344
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,599
want us to add in environmentally

2345
01:48:08,599 --> 01:48:12,400
responsible lighting which helps direct

2346
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,639
the light downward so it does a better

2347
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:17,800
job of of what its job is of safety and

2348
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,000
Illuminating the road but then it also

2349
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,280
guards against light pollution and I

2350
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,080
have some sent these little short videos

2351
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,360
from the international Dark Skies

2352
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,560
Association about places cities that

2353
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,760
have really good lighting but it's

2354
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,400
directed in such a manner that um at

2355
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:39,199
like Star tourism is possible astronomy

2356
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:41,800
tourism like there's places there's HOAs

2357
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,440
where you could see the Milky Way and so

2358
01:48:44,440 --> 01:48:45,719
I'll I'll send you I probably haven't

2359
01:48:45,719 --> 01:48:47,320
sent you all that those little videos so

2360
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:48,920
I'll send you all some of those it's

2361
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,880
really interesting having to do with the

2362
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,560
color temperature of the light so like

2363
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,679
Amber going more toward the Amber is is

2364
01:48:56,679 --> 01:48:58,920
better it's more gentle but still

2365
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,159
effective and then things like a cone

2366
01:49:01,159 --> 01:49:04,080
shape that directs it down so that's be

2367
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,320
good for us to ponder wouldn't it be

2368
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,000
cool astronomy tourism maybe we'll see

2369
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,639
the Milky Way they actually changed all

2370
01:49:11,639 --> 01:49:14,840
the lighting in Jackie Robinson Stadium

2371
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,000
recently because I complained not

2372
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,440
because of me but I was one of the

2373
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,920
complaints to the CEO CU I live right

2374
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,000
across the road right yeah and it it's

2375
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:26,920
if you don't put shades on your window

2376
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,599
it's right there and these new PS have

2377
01:49:29,599 --> 01:49:34,760
wonderful Shades I mean directing right on good that's great we

2378
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,159
have an example right in the city thank

2379
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:48,750
you thank you Jenny um Randall

2380
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,239
Phillips evening everybody uh Rand

2381
01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:55,119
Phillips 155 Crescent r Road uh I'm also

2382
01:49:55,119 --> 01:49:57,679
the owner of 612 and 614 East

2383
01:49:57,679 --> 01:49:59,480
International Speedway I come to you

2384
01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:01,599
tonight because I was just maybe advised

2385
01:50:01,599 --> 01:50:04,280
to come to you guys I was on this

2386
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,679
board five years ago I think two

2387
01:50:06,679 --> 01:50:09,400
consecutive terms uh I've talked to Miss

2388
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,119
Armstrong before uh I'm one of those

2389
01:50:12,119 --> 01:50:13,719
ignorant business owners that had no

2390
01:50:13,719 --> 01:50:16,000
idea about these Grant programs uh I'm

2391
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,480
also being hurt very badly about the

2392
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:19,760
construction but what I'm actually

2393
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,719
talking to you about is the fact that

2394
01:50:21,719 --> 01:50:23,320
I'm about to apply for these loans I've

2395
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,199
got a second in uh inspection coming

2396
01:50:26,199 --> 01:50:28,480
through just for to see how much it was

2397
01:50:28,480 --> 01:50:29,239
going to

2398
01:50:29,239 --> 01:50:32,000
be uh I've got code enforcement issues

2399
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,960
that stemm from 2010 uh I've got the EPA

2400
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:37,480
from Florida from taking out gas tanks

2401
01:50:37,480 --> 01:50:38,960
in my parking lot saying I cannot do

2402
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,480
anything I can't even pull permits on

2403
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:42,199
that property that's where a lot of the

2404
01:50:42,199 --> 01:50:44,440
code enforcement issues came from so

2405
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:47,599
Lesly I was I guess found in violation I

2406
01:50:47,599 --> 01:50:49,639
think this is a huge miscommunication

2407
01:50:49,639 --> 01:50:51,159
between me and the uh the code

2408
01:50:51,159 --> 01:50:53,520
enforcement board uh uh I guess

2409
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,239
violations were building up building out

2410
01:50:55,239 --> 01:50:58,119
unbeknownst to me uh just recently they

2411
01:50:58,119 --> 01:50:59,679
have tried to put a lean on the property

2412
01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:01,760
I believe the lean is on both 612 and

2413
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,320
614 we are currently in a court case

2414
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,280
right now I think March uh was our first

2415
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,560
date we're on back to our second one I

2416
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:10,880
had an investor that was going to come

2417
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,040
in last year uh we were in the news

2418
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:14,000
journal I don't know if you guys have

2419
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,360
seen that it was going to be a beautiful

2420
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,040
project my main investor had a heart

2421
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:21,199
attack in a stroke so so he is uh

2422
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:22,840
hospitalized and unfortunately had back

2423
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:25,119
out and on top of that my father has

2424
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:26,560
also had health issues for almost a year

2425
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:27,760
now he's finally gotten out of the

2426
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,920
hospital and uh that's been a mainstream

2427
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,000
for me but what I was trying to do is

2428
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,520
just to see uh like I said I've talked

2429
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,159
to Miss Armstrong about it and she also

2430
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:38,560
said she was going to approach uh the

2431
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,719
city uh Council I didn't know you were

2432
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:43,159
on board I I feel like I'm shooting

2433
01:51:43,159 --> 01:51:44,400
myself on the foot coming and you were

2434
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,840
on this board uh I was just trying to

2435
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,480
see if maybe you guys can put an ear or

2436
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:50,639
maybe advise me to see how I can talk to

2437
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:52,040
the city council maybe seeing if they

2438
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,679
can leave that uh lean on both sides of

2439
01:51:54,679 --> 01:51:57,760
my property which were $20,000 a piece

2440
01:51:57,760 --> 01:51:59,679
uh and so I can go forward and actually

2441
01:51:59,679 --> 01:52:02,079
doing work on my property like I said a

2442
01:52:02,079 --> 01:52:04,239
lifelong Pro uh a lifelong resident here

2443
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:06,119
I've been here for 48 years of my life

2444
01:52:06,119 --> 01:52:08,920
I've owned that business for 24 years I

2445
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,360
recently purchased the property the main

2446
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,800
property 612 I paid off in about 2010

2447
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,239
and uh during the middle of Co is when I

2448
01:52:17,239 --> 01:52:18,880
uh paid off the property joining next

2449
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,719
door and that was a nightmare all the

2450
01:52:20,719 --> 01:52:22,280
money I had Sav was just taking out the

2451
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,880
gas tanks buyer beware now like I said

2452
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,400
I'm my firsttime business owner and when

2453
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,119
I took over that property I had the the greatest as you know aspirations of

2454
01:52:31,119 --> 01:52:33,400
making it a great community and and and

2455
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,560
a spot it already is right now you drive

2456
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,000
by you don't look it I I beseech

2457
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,119
everybody that's on this board please

2458
01:52:38,119 --> 01:52:39,719
come by and look at my business come

2459
01:52:39,719 --> 01:52:42,599
inside and and and if you can find

2460
01:52:42,599 --> 01:52:44,560
parking uh come in and take a look

2461
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:45,360
you'll see it it's a very

2462
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:48,199
community-driven uh Music Arts uh you

2463
01:52:48,199 --> 01:52:50,199
know ultimately I wanted to expand

2464
01:52:50,199 --> 01:52:51,520
towards the east and open up a kitchen

2465
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,079
and have it available for every want to

2466
01:52:53,079 --> 01:52:54,199
come in and actually have a restaurant

2467
01:52:54,199 --> 01:52:57,119
sit down family friendly environment but

2468
01:52:57,119 --> 01:52:59,440
like I said I'm coming up to you guys

2469
01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:01,599
tonight to see if uh what the correct

2470
01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:04,800
steps would be for me to contact city

2471
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,639
council go there myself but like I said

2472
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:08,119
I was on this board I know coming to you

2473
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:09,360
guys first would probably be a better

2474
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,679
thing and seeing how we can go forth

2475
01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:14,639
with this okay so thank you yeah go

2476
01:53:14,639 --> 01:53:17,280
ahead Ken ask you and I know um our

2477
01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,920
assistant City attorney want to U

2478
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,040
elaborate as well but um it's the Irish

2479
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:25,360
Pope yes sir next to Subway there yes

2480
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,239
and um so right now um he wouldn't be

2481
01:53:29,239 --> 01:53:31,119
eligible for any of our grants because

2482
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:32,440
of the code violations because of the

2483
01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:34,239
code violations yeah so those things

2484
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:37,159
have to be uh remedied before we could

2485
01:53:37,159 --> 01:53:40,040
entertain any application um like I said

2486
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,079
I'm not a I'm not I've been here for 42

2487
01:53:42,079 --> 01:53:44,040
or 48 years and I've owned that property

2488
01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:45,520
and well I haven't owned it I've

2489
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,159
operated it for 22 years and my dad

2490
01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:51,320
owned it from 86 to 92 so we're not

2491
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,440
going anywhere I'm not going to like

2492
01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:56,639
turn around and sell the place and and look you guys make the fool I'm I

2493
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:58,760
legitimately I'm trying my best you know

2494
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:00,199
I'm doing it all by myself now that my

2495
01:54:00,199 --> 01:54:04,599
dad's got a lot of health issues but uh

2496
01:54:04,599 --> 01:54:07,840
I I any help uh I could get just so

2497
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,520
pointing in the right direction seeing

2498
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,159
what I can like I said I was on this

2499
01:54:11,159 --> 01:54:12,760
board and we used to have a portal that

2500
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,320
you can go to that was a part of the

2501
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:15,960
website where you can see the grants and

2502
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:17,400
loes that are available I had it

2503
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,520
bookmarked I went to it and it is gone

2504
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:21,639
so like I said the only reason why I

2505
01:54:21,639 --> 01:54:23,719
knew about this is one of another Main

2506
01:54:23,719 --> 01:54:25,960
Street Merchant showed me a pamphlet

2507
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:27,440
which my picture of my building was on

2508
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:31,119
out about dilapidated buildings and and applying for these grants and I'm

2509
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:32,880
like well my building is right there I

2510
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:34,360
didn't have no clue about it so if it

2511
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:35,679
wasn't for this other Merchant I would

2512
01:54:35,679 --> 01:54:37,520
have I would have not have known about

2513
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,199
it at all whatsoever right so like I

2514
01:54:40,199 --> 01:54:42,480
said is there any step that you guys can

2515
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,360
could advise me I like I said I did not

2516
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:46,800
realize Miss Armstrong was on this board

2517
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:48,199
uh it makes sense now that I see your

2518
01:54:48,199 --> 01:54:53,079
here uh but uh like I said I'm I'm going

2519
01:54:53,079 --> 01:54:54,719
to debacle and anything you guys can

2520
01:54:54,719 --> 01:54:59,199
advise me please I I'm I'm I'm I'm

2521
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:03,639
stuck so I don't know I I don't know

2522
01:55:03,639 --> 01:55:07,360
what we can do if there's nothing we can do I I don't

2523
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,280
think Randy or at least bringing it to

2524
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:12,360
the county or not the county the uh City

2525
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:17,270
bring it to their you brought to their

2526
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:20,320
attention fines are imposed at a

2527
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,639
magistrate meeting is that I was even at

2528
01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:24,040
a meeting I already have a lawyer

2529
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,000
involved there was he's he's trying to

2530
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,440
say there was no due process there was

2531
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,480
no letter sent to me uh I guess the

2532
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,320
whole reason why I could not do a lot of

2533
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,320
these uh repairs is because of the

2534
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,679
property being under the EPA and and

2535
01:55:36,679 --> 01:55:38,280
there was ground monitoring leveling I

2536
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:39,360
couldn't do anything they had the

2537
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:40,960
property locked let me ask you about

2538
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:42,560
that that's like a Brownfield thing

2539
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,440
right yeah yeah yeah isn't doesn't the

2540
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,440
state

2541
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,599
have

2542
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:56,990
am I I tried right now Curr locked they are

2543
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:00,079
still to clean they do they do you're

2544
01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:02,840
going to elaborate on could if you want

2545
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:04,639
let me say again Mr chair um his

2546
01:56:04,639 --> 01:56:09,079
attorney I'm glad you brought it up your Le counsil have been in touch with

2547
01:56:09,079 --> 01:56:11,400
our legal counsel correct correct and so

2548
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,920
there's there's conversation yeah so at

2549
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,480
this point I I I think that's what we

2550
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,000
have to leave like I said I just comeing

2551
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,800
across cuz one of my one of my friends

2552
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,159
said why don't you approach the board

2553
01:56:21,159 --> 01:56:22,520
and that's why I kind of here like kind

2554
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:24,079
of a good idea to see if I can get some

2555
01:56:24,079 --> 01:56:27,000
good direction and and like I said I've

2556
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:28,400
uh I've already talked to the City

2557
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,400
lawyer uh and they said that if I can

2558
01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:34,560
get the the stuff that's on the uh the

2559
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,679
violations fixed then they'd be able to

2560
01:56:37,679 --> 01:56:39,520
you know come to the city council and

2561
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:41,360
get the get the leans taken away of I've

2562
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,400
already tried to apply for loans

2563
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:44,800
construction loans anything and I've

2564
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:46,320
been denied every time because of the

2565
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,480
leans so that's where I'm at right now

2566
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,480
like I said I had an investor he was

2567
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:51,920
willing to put all the work into it as

2568
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:53,520
family friend I've known him since I was

2569
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,280
before I was born it was one of my my

2570
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:57,480
dad's fs and him having a heart attack

2571
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,760
in a stroke that's he had to back out we

2572
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,760
we'll follow up with code enforcement

2573
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,159
this where if if if the if the violation

2574
01:57:05,159 --> 01:57:07,760
has been remed right no I don't know no

2575
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,040
the violations well I mean the stuff

2576
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:10,719
that I could do like the weeds trash

2577
01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:13,280
graffiti painting I mean I'm pretty much

2578
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:14,960
out there you can ask Will he's he's

2579
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,679
walks by and sees me there's something

2580
01:57:16,679 --> 01:57:18,280
wrong that I can physically do with my

2581
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,639
own two hands painting broken windows

2582
01:57:20,639 --> 01:57:22,960
weeds uh with his construction uh

2583
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,960
they've torn up a heck a lot more of my

2584
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:26,760
parking lot uh which was always an issue

2585
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:30,280
but like I said uh with the F uh the EPA

2586
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:31,880
down there in the state they they have

2587
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,400
ground Wells of like every 5T on that

2588
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:36,760
property and I cannot touch it I can't

2589
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:38,440
put I can't put concrete

2590
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,159
over what are the construction cost what

2591
01:57:41,159 --> 01:57:43,440
do you uh so far the one estimate I got

2592
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:49,079
is about 42,000 and that was just on the violations that's not even that is

2593
01:57:49,079 --> 01:57:50,960
not even the concrete right now the

2594
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,400
concrete is something that I'm were

2595
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:55,119
going across the state uh what little

2596
01:57:55,119 --> 01:57:58,679
two holes that were drawn out uh from

2597
01:57:58,679 --> 01:58:01,400
the gas tanks had a little bit of T

2598
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:03,760
asphalt millings and dirt on top and now

2599
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,159
that the construction Crews come through

2600
01:58:05,159 --> 01:58:07,159
they have parked gigantic excavators and

2601
01:58:07,159 --> 01:58:09,079
it destroyed what was a little over that

2602
01:58:09,079 --> 01:58:11,119
parking lot so that's another project

2603
01:58:11,119 --> 01:58:13,079
that my lawyer is talking to about the

2604
01:58:13,079 --> 01:58:14,480
uh the contractors to see if they can

2605
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,159
remedy the the destruction they've done

2606
01:58:16,159 --> 01:58:18,040
in my parking

2607
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:24,639
lot yeah it's time yeah I think we'll keep an eye on this we'll come

2608
01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:26,280
back to it if there's anything we can do

2609
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:27,960
to urge them to look at this I would

2610
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:29,560
hate for us to lose another business on

2611
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,310
our beach

2612
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,000
side yeah thank you guys I appreciate

2613
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,229
thank

2614
01:58:37,239 --> 01:58:40,199
you see right else do we have here an

2615
01:58:40,199 --> 01:58:44,470
Ruby come on

2616
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:48,280
up Ann Ruby 137 Park Avenue so what you

2617
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,480
guys did here tonight setting priorities

2618
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:54,840
uh is great and the city Commission in

2619
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:58,520
their last CRA meeting decided that they

2620
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,480
would have a have maybe I don't know if

2621
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,280
they decided quarterly or semiannually

2622
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,320
that they were going to have regular CRA

2623
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:08,400
meetings where they discussed things

2624
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:12,960
that weren't because usually they just rubber stamp something

2625
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,800
move on and there's really no discussion

2626
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,199
and that's not how a CRA is going to

2627
01:59:18,199 --> 01:59:20,239
board is should be functioning that's my

2628
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:22,320
opinion so they did agree to start

2629
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:25,119
having I think quarterly meetings that

2630
01:59:25,119 --> 01:59:26,880
we're going to start way at 4:30 or

2631
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:28,719
something um where they're going to

2632
01:59:28,719 --> 01:59:31,000
actually discuss what's going on in the

2633
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:36,000
C so I would think that if Midtown and

2634
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:39,760
downtown could do list similar to this

2635
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,440
and then you guys can compile it and

2636
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:44,239
bring that forward for discussion that

2637
01:59:44,239 --> 01:59:46,760
might be a great idea you know you know

2638
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,239
how I like to make work for other

2639
01:59:49,239 --> 01:59:52,239
people but I think I I just think that

2640
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:53,440
would be a helpful way for you guys to

2641
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,119
have some input and I would hope at Le

2642
01:59:55,119 --> 01:59:57,360
if those other two boards don't want to

2643
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,360
or don't have the opportunity to at

2644
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,560
least hopefully this could be on the

2645
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:04,040
agenda you're reading our minds we're

2646
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,679
going there we're gonna do it thank you

2647
02:00:05,679 --> 02:00:09,950
yeah thank you man John

2648
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,360
Nicholson real quickly so if you don't

2649
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:16,079
understand it ask me uh one uh what do

2650
02:00:16,079 --> 02:00:18,159
you want Main Street to look like what

2651
02:00:18,159 --> 02:00:20,520
do you want Beachside to look like what

2652
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:22,400
do you want the boardwalk to look like

2653
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,639
what do you want A1A to look like all of

2654
02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:27,119
these speak volumes not only for those

2655
02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:28,920
of us that live here those of us that

2656
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:31,079
have our businesses here but also the

2657
02:00:31,079 --> 02:00:34,679
tourist they want an attractive location

2658
02:00:34,679 --> 02:00:36,360
they don't want to come to a dump all

2659
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,199
right and there are a lot of people if

2660
02:00:38,199 --> 02:00:39,480
they come they don't like it they don't

2661
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:42,719
come back for years we had people coming

2662
02:00:42,719 --> 02:00:44,960
back year after year after year staying

2663
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,360
at the same Hotel year at everybody knew

2664
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,040
everybody that's not the case anymore so

2665
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,639
we have to change to meet the standard

2666
02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:54,800
so I'm asking you to find out what you

2667
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,000
wanted these things to look like what

2668
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,440
you wanted it to be uh secondly grants I

2669
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:02,679
would ask you to mail out grants we have

2670
02:01:02,679 --> 02:01:04,800
addresses to all of our businesses in

2671
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,560
the CRA so they can't say I never got it

2672
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:10,639
I don't know about it because they don't

2673
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:13,000
nobody ever watches these meetings if

2674
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:14,320
you're a businessman how many of you

2675
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:17,280
would watch these meetings well because

2676
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:19,800
you're interested but most don't all

2677
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:23,800
right uh secondly I'm asking that uh uh

2678
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,880
A1A that Landscaping it almost finished

2679
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:31,199
with uh ISB you're supposed to go to a18

2680
02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:34,159
next what they've D what they've

2681
02:01:34,159 --> 02:01:36,960
envisioned is not what you guys want I'm

2682
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,119
telling you um those ballards at all the

2683
02:01:40,119 --> 02:01:43,040
intersections 120 ballards having people

2684
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,800
walk into the street because they have

2685
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:47,360
to get around them these are going to be

2686
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,320
bad things taking away all the plants in

2687
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,079
the middle of the road because they want

2688
02:01:51,079 --> 02:01:53,560
to curve the road they want to raise the

2689
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,000
intersection so they rise up and down

2690
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:57,119
there a lot of things that they want to

2691
02:01:57,119 --> 02:01:59,199
do that as a tourist town we may not

2692
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:03,440
want to do um third camera positioning

2693
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,560
on cabb they had a bunch of pictures of

2694
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,920
what they were showing for six months I

2695
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,520
walked every Friday and Saturday for

2696
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:13,760
five hours to see what the problem was

2697
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:15,560
before we roll back to

2698
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,400
3:00 the three worst locations where the

2699
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:21,360
shootings were are not covered by the

2700
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:22,560
cameras

2701
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,360
that to me doesn't make sense if that's

2702
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:26,400
where your problems are you really

2703
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,560
should have a camera where the problem

2704
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:30,840
is but we don't so we may want to look

2705
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:32,719
at that

2706
02:02:32,719 --> 02:02:36,119
um Apartments I was just at the downtown

2707
02:02:36,119 --> 02:02:38,320
Ser they were talking about a new

2708
02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:40,639
apartment going on on on Ridgewood all

2709
02:02:40,639 --> 02:02:42,000
right so they have the one on Beach

2710
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,280
Street they have the one on Ridgewood

2711
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:46,520
we're getting Apartments way up the

2712
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,920
street uh what is it Derbyshire or

2713
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,280
whatever it's called um but but 300

2714
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,520
Apartments we need much more than that

2715
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:58,199
but on Main Street there are used to be

2716
02:02:58,199 --> 02:03:01,599
Apartments upstairs is there some way we

2717
02:03:01,599 --> 02:03:05,920
could help renovate those locations so

2718
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:07,719
we can get bodies on the street because

2719
02:03:07,719 --> 02:03:10,119
if they're living there they will come

2720
02:03:10,119 --> 02:03:13,119
downstairs they will hit the shops below

2721
02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:15,520
them and hopefully the beach and A1A and

2722
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:18,639
Boardwalk etc etc but we need bodies in

2723
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:22,320
the CRA area Delta which was Delta West

2724
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:24,800
which was on the meeting has

2725
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:28,159
property off of Main Street can we have

2726
02:03:28,159 --> 02:03:31,560
a little asking of what you plan to do

2727
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:34,040
with the Delta Property between Main

2728
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:38,990
Street and Ocean Avenue thank you thank

2729
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,119
Youk all right we're on the board

2730
02:03:41,119 --> 02:03:42,559
comments does anybody have any comments

2731
02:03:42,559 --> 02:03:44,040
they'd like to

2732
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:48,800
add um I have one thing um so one thing

2733
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,239
that I didn't see in all of this that

2734
02:03:50,239 --> 02:03:53,280
has a little bit of a I don't I wouldn't

2735
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:54,760
say it's a concern just a comment of

2736
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:56,480
mine I would like to find a way if we

2737
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,639
have any way to eliminate some of the

2738
02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:01,760
red tape for businesses in the area

2739
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:04,400
because I think some of our issue as a

2740
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,280
city has always been we make things a

2741
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:08,440
little bit too prohibitive for

2742
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:10,360
businesses to open and sometimes even to

2743
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:12,040
stay open like with the gentleman we

2744
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,320
just had in front of us I mean I think

2745
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:16,199
if a business is making a concerted

2746
02:04:16,199 --> 02:04:17,920
effort to make those changes why should

2747
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,239
we lose that business in our town

2748
02:04:20,239 --> 02:04:21,960
especially if it's a wellestablished

2749
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:24,559
one that's been here that does well' be

2750
02:04:24,559 --> 02:04:26,559
a shame to lose that and the same thing

2751
02:04:26,559 --> 02:04:27,679
with our

2752
02:04:27,679 --> 02:04:29,559
zoning I don't know if there's a way for

2753
02:04:29,559 --> 02:04:32,079
us to look at it but some of our zoning

2754
02:04:32,079 --> 02:04:34,239
seems like it was made up to stop

2755
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:37,000
businesses from opening so we have rdb

2756
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,440
one Rd B2 across from rb3 across from

2757
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,480
rdb 4 and they all have different spot

2758
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,800
zonings that require people to come in

2759
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,079
for a plan development and spend

2760
02:04:46,079 --> 02:04:47,480
exorbitant amounts that they can spend

2761
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:48,760
on opening their

2762
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,280
business on that so I I wonder if

2763
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:53,599
there's a for us to take a look at that

2764
02:04:53,599 --> 02:04:56,400
plan maybe relax some of it so we can

2765
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,599
see what the market actually decides

2766
02:04:58,599 --> 02:05:00,920
instead of telling people not to open

2767
02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:02,400
before they ever open and Mr chair I

2768
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:04,840
like to take small bites also we are we

2769
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:07,199
speaking of Main Street right now only

2770
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:09,280
uh Main Street and ISB Main Street and

2771
02:05:09,280 --> 02:05:11,440
ISB our main two corridors right there

2772
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:13,520
on the beach side I think and we're

2773
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:15,440
talking about talking about buildings

2774
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:18,360
frontting ISB and running Main Street

2775
02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:21,119
correct having having and I mean A1A as

2776
02:05:21,119 --> 02:05:23,639
well probably

2777
02:05:23,639 --> 02:05:25,199
and having the ability to be able to

2778
02:05:25,199 --> 02:05:27,559
open up with not a lot of not as much

2779
02:05:27,559 --> 02:05:30,199
red tape because I think historically I

2780
02:05:30,199 --> 02:05:31,760
know from a lot of business owners I've

2781
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,880
talked to about coming yeah legitimate

2782
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:35,119
concern I've tried to give people to

2783
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:37,760
come down to that area and people say oh

2784
02:05:37,760 --> 02:05:41,360
well I tried 15 years ago for 10 months

2785
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:42,960
and I just couldn't get through the city

2786
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:45,159
process and I think as a city we're at a

2787
02:05:45,159 --> 02:05:47,320
different point now where we're trying

2788
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:49,079
to encourage people a lot more than we

2789
02:05:49,079 --> 02:05:52,559
were say 10 years ago 15 years ago

2790
02:05:52,559 --> 02:05:54,159
in Redevelopment are and we're they're

2791
02:05:54,159 --> 02:05:55,840
in Redevelopment areas and we have the

2792
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,280
fun so I mean if there's a way for us to

2793
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:01,639
make the language less prohibitive yeah

2794
02:06:01,639 --> 02:06:03,880
I I I have I have a good thing to add

2795
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:05,199
young lady over there should be first go

2796
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:07,280
ahead first okay I just wanted to ask

2797
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,639
what is the progress on the um sign so

2798
02:06:10,639 --> 02:06:13,320
people would know I have so many people

2799
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,320
that come in they just wander from the

2800
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:18,000
Hilton and they go I can't believe

2801
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,840
you're here I had no idea I started

2802
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:22,880
walking and there were so many empty

2803
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:26,360
stores I had no idea you were here but

2804
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:31,960
they got there kiosk yeah we that's one of the things I mean it's not

2805
02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:34,840
the the be all but I think the kiosk

2806
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:37,440
would help with that identifying what

2807
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:41,480
businesses are on Main on A1A on ISB in

2808
02:06:41,480 --> 02:06:43,440
close proximity yeah I just wondered

2809
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:48,040
what the progress was on the one signage

2810
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:51,079
thing this whatever right signage was

2811
02:06:51,079 --> 02:06:52,679
there were about five of us who had

2812
02:06:52,679 --> 02:06:56,040
signage things well can I but I can miss

2813
02:06:56,040 --> 02:07:00,079
hrey I I can say that um uh about four

2814
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:03,079
of the uh department heads have been um

2815
02:07:03,079 --> 02:07:05,079
uh we've been doing our research on

2816
02:07:05,079 --> 02:07:06,880
who's got kios throughout the State of

2817
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,480
Florida the cities um so the last couple

2818
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:12,000
weeks I probably had four teams meeting

2819
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:15,599
where we're we've um had meetings with

2820
02:07:15,599 --> 02:07:17,760
other cities and trying to determine how

2821
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,040
did they go about um getting their kiosk

2822
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,679
because these are cities that already have them um and what was the

2823
02:07:23,679 --> 02:07:26,679
cost um of it and and and you know how

2824
02:07:26,679 --> 02:07:29,239
they're using it so we're in that

2825
02:07:29,239 --> 02:07:31,840
process then we're going to dump it off

2826
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,040
to um purchase and to put it out to B do

2827
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:36,880
we have any rfps out there oh yeah

2828
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,559
plenty of them we got we got several of

2829
02:07:38,559 --> 02:07:41,639
them okay yeah and that was part of our

2830
02:07:41,639 --> 02:07:43,320
due diligence with talking to these

2831
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:46,920
other um cities that already have them

2832
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,840
well and I the one thing I wanted to add

2833
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:53,360
is that the current staff is why I have

2834
02:07:53,360 --> 02:07:56,199
so much respect for you is this staff

2835
02:07:56,199 --> 02:07:59,559
right now finds a reason to tell us yes

2836
02:07:59,559 --> 02:08:01,599
years before they found reasons to tell

2837
02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:05,400
us no so the old Daytona is no longer

2838
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,400
the old Daytona this is the new Daytona

2839
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:10,840
so if we can make it easier that's great

2840
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:13,119
but here's the problem with that now

2841
02:08:13,119 --> 02:08:14,960
I've been I'm a business person I've

2842
02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,719
tried to put I got so much I have

2843
02:08:17,719 --> 02:08:20,880
acreage on East ISB on either side I've

2844
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:22,079
tried to come up with a lot of things

2845
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:23,440
cities disagreed with one of those

2846
02:08:23,440 --> 02:08:25,760
things but you know what hindsight

2847
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:26,840
looking

2848
02:08:26,840 --> 02:08:29,719
back there was a there's a reason for

2849
02:08:29,719 --> 02:08:32,280
that because it's not just about what I

2850
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,880
want it's really what the city needs and

2851
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:38,679
what I want and the biggest thing with

2852
02:08:38,679 --> 02:08:40,719
myself personally taken out of this

2853
02:08:40,719 --> 02:08:46,159
equation is that what I've learned is to

2854
02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:48,760
try to do something that will benefit

2855
02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:50,599
the city so that's why I look to the

2856
02:08:50,599 --> 02:08:53,079
staff and the the zoning restrictions to

2857
02:08:53,079 --> 02:08:55,719
try to guide me in that now maybe we can

2858
02:08:55,719 --> 02:08:57,760
tweak them different ways I mean I agree

2859
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,239
but we're looking at zoning standards

2860
02:08:59,239 --> 02:09:01,119
that were set in the early 90s and if

2861
02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:02,280
they were going to work they would have

2862
02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:05,920
worked by now in my own opinion well they're they're going just my

2863
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:07,679
opinion well I I'm going to tell you

2864
02:09:07,679 --> 02:09:10,239
this and this is previous to this staff

2865
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:13,880
getting here the past city manager my my

2866
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:17,960
property on 326 South Grand View excuse

2867
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,920
me sorry my property on 326 South Grand

2868
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:22,840
View the middle of my property was

2869
02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:25,079
accidentally changed to residential I

2870
02:09:25,079 --> 02:09:27,159
couldn't occupy my building for over

2871
02:09:27,159 --> 02:09:30,719
three years I had to go to the new city

2872
02:09:30,719 --> 02:09:33,000
manager and the the gentleman the young

2873
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:34,440
lady across street they straightened it

2874
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:36,840
up for me right

2875
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:42,159
so and I'm not just doing this because I like you guys you're doing your

2876
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:45,800
job you know what I mean so uh to say

2877
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,719
that I can't say it's difficult I feel

2878
02:09:47,719 --> 02:09:50,800
so comfortable almost in tears all the

2879
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:52,639
stuff you done you know what I'm saying

2880
02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:54,840
very polite very and I agree with you

2881
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,119
though that we can make things easier

2882
02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:59,599
but we also got to be careful because if

2883
02:09:59,599 --> 02:10:02,199
you get years ago I wasn't the nicest

2884
02:10:02,199 --> 02:10:05,679
guy I ran strip clubs I I did own got to

2885
02:10:05,679 --> 02:10:10,360
be careful yeah but what I'm saying is not everything is

2886
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:13,000
good for business on beach side and we

2887
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:17,719
have to kind of within reason yeah and I

2888
02:10:17,719 --> 02:10:20,800
trust them to guide me that way thank

2889
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,119
you thank you thank you will thank you

2890
02:10:23,119 --> 02:10:26,159
Ken thank you Angela anybody else NOP

2891
02:10:26,159 --> 02:10:27,679
all right meeting a

2892
02:10:27,679 --> 02:10:42,570
Jour did you find

2893
02:10:42,580 --> 02:11:34,470
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2894
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:59,790
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2895
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:13,119
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