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At this time, we'll call to order the regular meeting of common council. This is July 18, 2023. Carry roll please.

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Other person, carpenter?

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Present.

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Gantz?

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Here.

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Hansen?

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Here.

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Cunninger?

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Present.

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Ledvinna?

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Here.

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Pirok?

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Here.

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Quigley?

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Here.

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Rash?

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I'm here.

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Mayor Boyd?

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I'm here as well. Thank you. Item two, Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands.

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one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Item 3, approval of the minutes of the June 20th, 2023, Common Council meeting.

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Make a motion to approve.

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Second.

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Motion by Alderperson Carpenter.

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Second.

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Second by Alderperson Ledman.

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Any discussion or comments?

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Seeing there is none.

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All those in favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Item 4 public hearing on the amendment of chapter 14 zoning ordinance of the

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deep-hear municipal code including updates to the official zoning district map

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will the clerk please read the notice. The notice of public hearing was

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published in the press times on June 30th and July 7th 2023. Thank you

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recommendation from staff Dan. Thank You Mayor. In June the Planning

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Commission heard from staff regarding the second quarter of edits.

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As you remember, once we adopted the new zoning coding in December of last year for effective

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January 1 of this year, we knew that there was going to be growing pains and this is

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the second quarter of that one where we're finding just some small corrections, some

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typographical errors and a variety of other small things that we found over the first

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few months that we probably need to finesse and just massage out a little bit.

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So in that, the Planning Commission recommended approval of 32 zoning ordinance revisions.

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And when you see 32, it's not really doesn't look that big because when you make a change

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in one chart, it sort of makes its way through the multiple other charts.

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And so even though it says 32, from a content standpoint, it isn't that many.

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And then also five zoning map revisions.

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As we went through last year, we have about 8,000, 9,000 properties in the city.

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We're finding a couple little pockets here and there of one that should have been

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classified appropriately.

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And so these are what those corrections are.

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So we can go through them individually if you'd like.

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but with that the Plan Commission recommended approval of the zoning text

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change as well as the zoning map provisions. I would like to make one

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point that was included in your packet that was a deviation from the Plan

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Commission is the staff is recommending a small change to the facade

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requirements for single-family homes and duplex homes that was included in your

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packet. So our goal with that one is to address that at a later date after

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we've had some additional time to investigate a little bit further with

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as some of our builders who were objecting still

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to that language.

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With that one, we are sort of making the correction

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to that facade language, but we'd like to still evaluate it

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for further investigation into the future.

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Thank you.

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At this time, I declare the public hearing open.

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Anyone in the audience or virtually want to speak

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on this item on the agenda now is your time.

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So if anyone in the public wants to speak

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on this item on the agenda, item four,

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either raise your hand in the audience

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or virtually just state your name.

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For the second time, anyone in the public

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want to speak on this item on the agenda,

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state your name, either virtually

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if you're out there or in person.

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For the third and final time,

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anyone want to make a comment

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regarding this item on the agenda

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while the hearing is open?

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Seeing there is none,

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I declare the public hearing closed

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and when I entertain a motion,

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so if you have questions we can ask them.

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I make a motion to approve.

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Motion by Alderperson Rash, second by Alderperson Pirak.

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Any discussion or comments?

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Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Item five.

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Public hearing on a request to rezone parcels WD-534, WD-535, WD-531, WD-536 at 822-828

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Main Avenue and 823-827 Oak Street from R1-45 single dwelling detached to MX-3

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corridor mix use. Can the clerk please read the notice of the public hearing. The

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public hearing was published in the press times on June 30th and July 7th

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2023. Thank you staff recommendation please. Thank you Mayor. At the June

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Plan Commission meeting the Plan Commission also heard from an

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applicant to rezone the four parcels as you mentioned on Main Avenue.

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Purpose behind that is to transition from the single family

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and rental properties that you do see there to a commercial use

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in line with our comprehensive plan, our existing comprehensive plan.

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So as you see on the map there, you can see the four homes that are identified in between Johnson Bank

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as well as the pharmacy. So you see those four homes.

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A small clip that you see there on the side is from the comprehensive plan future land use map,

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which is this area was designated for commercial redevelopment so that is in

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line with the comprehensive plan as such the plan commission recommended

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approval thank you at this time I'll declare the public hearing open for this

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item on the agenda if anyone wants to speak on this item just raise your hand

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either in person or virtually now is your time while the public hearing is

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open for the second time anyone want to speak on this item on the agenda

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agenda while the public hearing is open regarding item 5. For the third and final time, if anyone

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wants to speak on this item on the agenda while the public hearing is open, just raise

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your hand or state your name.

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It appears there is no one, so at this time I declare the

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public hearing closed and would entertain a motion.

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I'll make a motion to approve.

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Second.

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Motion by Alderperson Rash, second by Alderperson Carpenter. Any discussion or comments?

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Alderperson Hanson.

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Can you just talk about the current single-family homes, including on Oak Street 823 and 827?

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The four that are under discussion here tonight?

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Yeah, I assume they're going to be raised, but who owns them right now?

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It's owned by one single entity. The applicant is representing them tonight.

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The intention is to remove them and turn that into another financial institution to serve the greater-to-peer community.

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And with our new website that was posted, you should be able to track the site plan process as it works its way through.

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And then 831 to 847, I know it's not part of this, but on that map for future land use, is that also supposed to eventually be commercial?

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It's slated for future commercial, but it's completely up to the owners of those properties to understand if they wish to have redevelopment on their property at such time.

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but at this point it is remained to stay at the single-family zoning classification.

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But COMP plan did show commercial redevelopment on them as well,

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so they could request a rezoning in the future if they so choose.

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Thank you. Other questions or comments?

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Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

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Opposed? Motion carries.

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Thank you. Item 6, public comment upon matters not on the agenda.

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The comments made during the public comment period shall pertain only to matters under

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the jurisdiction of the Common Council.

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So at this time, if anyone has a public comment upon matters not on the agenda in the audience,

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if you want to raise your hand and come up and speak, come on up.

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Mary Jane will have you give us your name and address.

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You know how this thing works.

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Because we're sitting on 33 items on the agenda, we will adhere to our five-minute

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rule yet.

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I'm here to say that the City Council, I've just come from the Village Board in Allaway

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that met at 6.30, I'm here now.

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something has got to be done about the deer population in this community.

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Between, I talked to a friend, I'm tired of having my yard be their bedding.

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I'm tired of having my flowers, my tomato plants, everything just chomped off.

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Last year, I've been in my house since October of 2006,

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And I talked to one of the neighbors and it's only the last five or six years

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This has really gotten to be a problem last year

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I deliberately did not pull out any of the stems of the day lilies that got chomped off and you can tell when a flower

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Has come to fruition and the buds have blossomed and just fallen off and you can tell when the deer have come

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Because day lilies are tall. It's not the bunnies. Okay. I had

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350 stems. So if you figure there's three, four, five, six buds per stem, we're talking

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about a thousand flowers. The neighbors are losing tomato plants. We've got deer, they're

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pooping in our yards, they're all over the place. And I talked to a friend who's very

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active with the DNR and is on several committees and he told me about a week ago that the

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The optimum for deer population in this country is 6 per square mile.

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Well, that's obviously in downtown Los Angeles, they don't have a lot of deer, but that means that that count is over in Colorado.

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In Wisconsin, we have 35 to 40 deer per square mile according to the DNR figures.

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The property at the Abbey is a quarter of a mile square, 160 acres, a square mile 640.

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160 acres, I can tell you that there's 35 to 40 deer on that property

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because there are times that I come home from work along Webster

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and I can count 20 driving 30 miles an hour.

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We've got too many deer in Easty Pier.

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I'm part of it because of the trail. I understand that. But between the pier and

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ledge view and Bellevue and Allaway and Green Bay, we've got to do something about

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that deer population. It is far too large in terms of the acreage that there

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is. And the other problem is because of the speed limit on

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both Riverside and Webster, and it's 30 miles an hour. Some people are doing 25, some people

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are doing 40, but because of that speed limit and what's happening is we're not losing any

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deer because there's 55, 60. If you were out on 29 or 54 or one of those, there'd

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be a lot more deer that are getting bumped off and a lot more damage to cars. Well

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But really, think about it, people, if you're driving 30 miles an hour and a deer comes

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out in front of you, you can break and miss it and it can miss you.

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And so we don't have as many dead deer as we would if it was 5560 on Riverside Drive.

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And I call Brad laying from Allaway frequently below Woodlawn Cemetery down in there where

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that ravine is, and call him and say, Brad, I don't know who takes care of this,

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but there's another dead deer down there.

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And I've done it for the last two or three years, that there's deer laying in that piece.

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And it's partly because when people come down off a riverside, there's that dip and that little hill,

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and they're out there and they don't have the sight line like you do on Webster or the rest of Riverside Drive.

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We have to do something about it.

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I am tired of having the neighbors tell me about their tomato plants.

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I'm tired of looking out the window and seeing them eating other people's flowers, etc.

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And the problem is, is that most people won't make the effort to come here and say it.

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I'm here tonight telling you there's too many deer on the Abbey property.

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I'm prepared to give that young frotter or priest or whoever he is a couple of years ago

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that everybody, oh Bambi! Bambi baloney! I'm ready to buy a deer tag and give him

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another one and let him have another deer because I've had it. I don't want to

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take out my flower bed and put in grass. We don't want that. Think about it this

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way guys. We're talking about bees and the fact that bees are going away but

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we're going to eliminate the flower beds because we can't figure out what

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to do with the deer. So we aren't going to have bees, but we're going to have deer that

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are a problem. That doesn't make sense. So that's my point of being here. Please work

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together with these other communities and figure out what to do about this deer population.

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That's it.

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Thank you. Thank you, Mary Jane.

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Anyone else in the audience have public comment upon

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public comment upon matters not on the agenda.

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For the third and final time,

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anyone having public comment upon matters not on the agenda.

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All right, thank you again.

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Item seven, proclamation for the 100th birthday

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of Clayton E. Colb,

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has been unfortunately moved to a later meeting,

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so we will not do that tonight.

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Item eight, Green Bay Transit Presentation

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on their services for deep-hear residents.

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Patty's here somewhere. There's Patty.

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Hi, very good thank you.

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Well thank you for

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inviting me. I appreciate it. I think it's been a little bit. Hey one second

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Patty, they're just going to find your presentation. It

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wasn't in PowerPoint. It

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whatever it is you're handling it so we're good to go screw it up just give

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me the signal well thank you I think it's been a little while since I've

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So, I appreciate Larry inviting me out here to kind of explain where things are at with

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Green Bay Metro. We've had a lot of changes over the last few years, a lot that really

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has impacted the city of deep here. So, with that, I just wanted to kind of give an overview

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of how we're doing things today and I'm happy to answer any questions at the end that

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there may be. So, if you want to flip me to the next screen there. Awesome. So, back

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Back in 2020, of course, we've all had, you know, went through a lot of changes.

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We took our traditional fixed route paratransit system, and we kind of revamped and added an

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additional mode of transportation.

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So that brings us to providing three different modes of public transit to the communities.

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And that's the traditional fixed route bus, which is true that is that traditional

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fixed route bus is no longer in the city of DPR, but we also have paratransit.

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that is for qualified disabled individuals. And then we have our new microtransit, which

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is our on-demand service. And so I'll talk a little bit about that as we go forward,

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but that's really the main service that, along with Pair Transit, that covers your community.

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So with that, this kind of gives you an overview of our whole service area. And

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so really what we did back in 2019, the Transit Commission had approved a consultant

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to come in and look at an additional motor transportation for us, which is the on-demand

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service. And one of the reasons for that is the traditional bus would provide service

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from about 5.15 in the morning till about 10.45 at night. And I'm probably not telling

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you all anything new that some of those buses in the evening were not very heavily used.

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So what we really wanted to do is make sure that we were meeting the demand of

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the community but kind of doing it in the most efficient way that we could in most

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time-effective. So we brought in a consultant, we kind of redid, we really

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started with a plain map, started over from the beginning and with all the great

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technology that we have in place we're able to tell where people are getting on,

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where they're getting off, where they're utilizing the services and so that's

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really what we did and we worked very closely with Brown County Planning who

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serves as our Metropolitan Planning Organization and so we worked with them

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and really kind of looked at things and said where are people using it

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in where is the need.

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And so what we did with that is we circled the fixed route system all around that because

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obviously the most cost effective system is to be able to use fixed route buses where

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those numbers are.

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And then we really wanted to make sure that we were servicing those other areas that

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didn't have a high ridership but yet needed transportation for third shift workers and

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those types of things.

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So that's where we really kind of took microtransit which is an on demand service

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that I'm going to explain.

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And really we use that to complement the existing service.

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So our service map looks a little different here.

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There might be a little bit challenging for you to see from a distance,

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but all the colored routes are the traditional fixed route service that is provided.

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And then that yellow area that's around the whole service area, that is all paratransit.

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As you can see, that is really changed for the city of DPR,

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and that is because of the on-demand service.

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So an on-demand service is really very, very similar to a public version of Uber and Lyft.

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So you can book it via phone or you can book it versus an on an app.

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And our response time, we like to really say we want to be there within about 20 minutes.

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We're averaging about 13 minutes right now.

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And that was as of yesterday morning.

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So we are on target for those rides.

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And what happens is all of those are ADA accessible trips as well.

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So regulations change for us a little bit with that different mode of transportation,

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which is why you don't see that bubble quite as large.

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Just so you know that bubble is a little bit smaller than previously,

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it covered a little bit more area of DPR.

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However, anybody that was previously approved for that paratransit

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did not, none of their services changed.

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But anybody within any of those zones can use that on-demand service.

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And, you know, and those are all ADA accessible.

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They are, it's provided us the option to provide additional service hours, which is really nice.

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And, so if you want to just go to, I don't, this is just kind of real briefly, of course,

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we cover, of course, the City of Green Bay and the City of Deep here, but then Allaway,

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Ashwabanan, and Bellevue in those services cover all of those areas.

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And so the on-demand service has really come into play with portions of Green Bay,

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but with all of DPR and a lot of Bellevue and portions of Allaway and Ashwabbanon as well.

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And so it really has allowed, we've redesigned that system to utilize the outskirt area to be that on-demand service

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and really funnel people in to transfer points to utilize the fixed route.

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So in any of those areas where ridership is high and we see that high demand,

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We really want to be bringing people in to utilize those buses to do that

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So with that if you want to go to the next a lot of people

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I will say when we went through this transition and I know I've talked to many folks as we went through this

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there were a lot of questions completely new system and

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So a lot of people were very confused by this and a lot of people that first reaction

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Was and I promised my kids did not draw this picture

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And so a lot of people kept saying, oh my gosh, she took away the bus.

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And truly, the bus is the traditional 35, 40-foot bus is gone.

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I will tell you I have other areas that want all-on-demand service

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like the city of DPR as well, because it's really a sweet system.

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And so we really expanded that a lot since the initial,

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because we really did a pilot first and we continue to expand that.

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And so when people say, I just can't go where I used to be able to go,

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So this is a map that Brown County Planning had put together.

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This is truly places you can go just on demand service without utilizing the fixed route

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at all.

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You can travel from those zones.

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So just to give an example, for, say, Sybil Hop School, they utilize our services quite

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a bit.

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If they were wanting to go out to, say, NWTC area or that Walmart area, those

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types of things, they can really just take microtransit from here to there.

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Instead of getting on a bus, going down to the transit center, transferring and then taking

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another bus out to Walmart.

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So there's a lot of different options they can really transfer amongst those zones.

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So there is a learning curve.

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So I think that we've been really fortunate to work with Brown County Planning and we

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have a full-time coordinator that she really, that's what she does.

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She goes around.

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She does tons of presentations at all different agencies and schools and groups and really

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teaches them how to utilize all the modes of transportation.

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The on-demand service has really been a huge benefit with our paratransit.

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If you see numbers that go through and we'll talk a little bit about that, paratransit

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has really declined in cost and numbers.

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And one of the biggest reasons for that is that people are able to use the on-demand

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service.

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And it's much more cost effective even for a disabled client to utilize on demand.

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So, you know, for an on demand, if you're an elderly or disabled person and you are

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purchasing a 30-day pass at $29, you can utilize that on the fixed route bus or you

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can utilize that on this demand service.

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So it's unlimited rides for 30 days for $29.

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Paratransit for individuals that need to utilize that service, it's $4 one way.

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So if you're having to go to the doctor and back, it's $8 just for one trip, and that's the cash fare,

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and those are all regulated by the Federal Transit Administration.

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So expanding the microtransit zones are really beneficial for individuals that are able to utilize the microtransit service.

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They are all ADA accessible, so if you're using mobility devices and things like that, you still can use this service.

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And we do have some really neat things in place for individuals that have some challenges with utilizing that.

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that we put them on, it's kind of behind the scenes.

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We call it kind of like this wait list

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that we can put them on and really give them

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a door-to-door option versus a corner-to-corner,

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which on demand usually ends up being.

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So I wanted to provide you all, thank you.

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This is an overall for 2024 estimate for budget.

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Just wanted to share this, this is not concrete,

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so Pam, don't run with this quite yet, but close.

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So this is overall generally speaking,

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I've been with transit just about 20 years now

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and then unfortunately the number doesn't go up a whole lot so but I will tell

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you that as you can see we sit about eight and a half million or so dollar

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budget and the federal and state portion really covers the majority of our budget.

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The local share which is covered by all of our partnering communities ends up

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being a little under 2.2 million, 2.1 actually on here so just to kind of

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you where these numbers come in, DPR's estimate is about 140,000. Just so to give you all enough,

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just kind of how that works is we kind of estimate your portion on if we utilize all of our dollars.

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How transit works is we have to end zero every year, which I don't like. I'm sure

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you all like it. I think you just got to check, right, Larry? Very nice probably.

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Yeah, 81,000.

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So, yeah, it wasn't payable, great to.

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But anyway, so what ends up happening is transit needs to end at zero each year.

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And so when we get audited in the beginning of every year,

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any dollars that are left over are reimbursed to each community the same way they paid in.

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So if we end up coming in below budget, that all benefits you all.

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We are not allowed to hang on to any of those dollars.

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So they all go back to the federal and state, which I tell you we do use all of their money.

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So that's kind of how that piece works.

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You know, paratransit and fuel ends up being the big two numbers that are always challenging for us that we cannot control.

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Paratransit, you know, trips cannot be denied there, so we have no control over the number of those trips.

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And I'm sure you all would like to control fuel costs just as much as I would.

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So those are really big, the two big numbers that can make us fluctuate quite a bit.

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In addition to the last couple of years, we've had some excess dollars that we've been able

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to utilize through some of the COVID funding, which is where you guys have really seen

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a huge benefit back.

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So a little bit on the on demand, I really wanted to focus on some numbers because

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I'm sure I was going to be asked that.

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So just really who utilizes the on-demand out, you know, for your community, really, you know,

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Symbol Hoppe utilizes that a lot to the various areas that they go, they can really, you know,

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book that now by an app instead of having to utilize the fixed route service,

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which was typically an hour route.

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So they were always having to schedule around that.

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In addition, we do provide quite a few trips out to Walmart and to other employers

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in the community as well as to medical appointments.

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I did pull some data.

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This really goes from January 1 of this year to July 9.

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And so one of the things that with the software that we have,

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we can really get specific on rides.

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So from DPR to non-DPR rides first,

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and this is strictly for the on-demand service,

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because once they get onto a fixed route,

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I mean, they go all over and the fixed route is not a DPR,

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so I did not bring any of those numbers with.

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But for individuals that are in DPR that are going,

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that are coming to DPR from non-DPR area,

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so whether they're in L.A. or Ashwabana,

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and they're coming to your community,

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so for those first little over six months or so,

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that number's right around 2,500.

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It was like 2,496, is where that number sets.

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So for non-DPR community members,

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two non-DPR community members from DPR,

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you're looking at about 3,000.

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And so it was about five below that.

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So it's approximately 3,000.

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And we can get specifically exactly where those rides are

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to, if that information is ever requested.

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And then from individuals just indie peer,

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staying indie peer, that number is right around 1,400.

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So that's kind of where we're seeing this year so far.

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I will tell you that ridership is continuously going up

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before the pandemic, Green Bay Metro averaged about 1.3 million rides per year,

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and that was really just fixed route services.

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Now it's a little bit unique with the additional motor transit,

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so we're at about 800,000.

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We continue to see that number climb.

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It's very different services now than what it was.

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We do meet on a monthly basis to discuss all of the on-demand ridership.

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I will tell you that every single month and for the last year the numbers have just been

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set higher and higher every single month.

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So we have not seen that down.

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It just continues to increase.

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I think one of the biggest things that we do get asked is if we could get it there

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sooner.

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I will tell you that fixed route services is about 30 minutes.

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So for, you know, we're averaging about that 12, 13 minutes right now.

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That's pretty good service.

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We can decrease that, but when we decrease that,

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that means we need to put more vehicles on the road,

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which of course, you know, comes to cost.

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So we do try to have a really close,

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you know, really cautious balance to that.

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All right. And so with that,

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I'm happy to take any questions.

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I can stay and talk all night long if you'd like,

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but I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Sure. They love that. All right.

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We'll take it. Thank you, Pat.

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Any questions that we have?

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All the person rash.

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Yeah. And I appreciate you coming back.

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I did I mean I requested that we just get an update. I'm just hearing you know

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some things in the community about how this works and it's not responsive it

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is you know I'm sure you hear some of those things as well. I do. So I do

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appreciate you bringing this up and sharing a lot of your numbers. The that

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that helps I mean so if you look at those numbers you're talking close to

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almost 7,000 rides just from the beginning of the year in and out of and

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around in Depear so that's pretty good. I appreciated the responsiveness

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it was on my questions. So being 13 minutes, some of the things I've heard is it takes

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a long time for the micro bus to show up. And then I guess my question is the kind of outreach

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in the community to help people understand this better. I know it's hard to do. But

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if there's more of that that can be done, obviously it's appreciated. The app, how

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What is the app work?

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Is it like an Uber type of thing where you're just making the request and then they'll tell

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you when that person is going to show up or how does that?

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It's just like it. You can see your vehicle. You can see your response time. I will tell

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you that I personally use it in the evening for dinners just because it's my way home

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then. And so I will tell you that I can go in, I can book that trip. I will see one vehicle

457
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,200
that's going to be here in 23 minutes and I can see one that will be here in 5 minutes.

458
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Okay, and then you can select what option works for you now because that that driver may be on break that driver might just be

459
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,860
Dropping somebody else off. So, you know, what I always tell people is if you see a high response

460
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:43,620
I would tell you to go back in and rebook every time that you know in the beginning

461
00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:47,760
I will tell you we had a lot of questions because this is a completely different service for our community

462
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,360
I will tell you that the on-demand service that Green Bay Metro did is the first in the state of Wisconsin for microtransit

463
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
So it's very completely different for our folks.

464
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:59,400
And I will tell you that every time somebody makes a trip,

465
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
I can go in, I can see exactly where they were

466
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,420
when they booked that trip.

467
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,740
Sometimes they're not in the zone,

468
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:09,980
which those are things that over the past two years,

469
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:11,480
we've really kind of tweaked that.

470
00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,060
And we can adjust that.

471
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:16,100
That's easy stuff for us to adjust.

472
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440
Back in the day of fixed route,

473
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:20,140
when you'd say, okay, hey, we have a new employer

474
00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:21,780
and we really need to reach out to this employer,

475
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,700
So that's challenging to be able to extend a fixed route.

476
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,240
With microtransit, we can make those modifications very easily in expand service.

477
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:37,300
And so, you know, honestly, I don't get a lot of complaints that have been validated.

478
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Sometimes it's really, you know, individuals learning how to use it and booking their

479
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:43,920
trip.

480
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,640
You know, the on demand has really given us the ability to extend and provide

481
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,760
longer services.

482
00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:51,260
You know, where we would never.

483
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:53,820
Right now, Monday through Friday, we operate until 11.30.

484
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,000
We would never be able to provide transportation services that late.

485
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:01,600
And not that there's a high demand, but there are people that do need to get to third shift

486
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,140
employment and those types of things.

487
00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:07,900
And so that's an option for us to provide that at a lot less cost than what we've been

488
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:08,280
able to.

489
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,500
So Andrea is our mobility coordinator.

490
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:15,700
She is out all over at various agencies.

491
00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:18,640
I'm more than happy to get her connected up with anybody.

492
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,520
She meets people individually in the communities to go and teach them how to, you know, book

493
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,040
their rides.

494
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
She'll meet them out at their stop, help them do all of those things.

495
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:29,960
She is at all sorts.

496
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,980
She has ongoing standard meetings monthly with human service, you know, agencies and

497
00:32:36,980 --> 00:32:37,680
all sorts of things.

498
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:39,440
So I'm happy to get her connected up with anything.

499
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:42,560
I did bring some information to you because I figured there would be some questions

500
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,240
on how to do that, but our website is a great tool.

501
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
It really goes through how to set that up.

502
00:32:48,980 --> 00:32:49,940
There's videos on there.

503
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,340
So there's a lot of really neat things.

504
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:54,600
So I would say if there's anybody that do have any challenges,

505
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:58,520
please connect them up with me because we want to make sure we can help with them.

506
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,700
Okay. And then real quick, one quick question,

507
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:02,500
one maybe a little bit longer.

508
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,360
And how many vehicles in the microtransit?

509
00:33:04,660 --> 00:33:05,480
We have 12.

510
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,460
That's one of the unique things is that we use the same fleet

511
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:12,140
for microtransit that we do with our paratransit.

512
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,760
And so that's really given us the benefit to keep those numbers down.

513
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,660
Okay, and then I think one of the the confusing pieces for some people is the

514
00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:24,060
zones like you might book your ride but you're not in the zone so you have to

515
00:33:24,060 --> 00:33:28,820
then walk to the zone area to pick up, right? Correct, and so that can be

516
00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:32,880
challenging and when we first did this that was one of our discussions is we

517
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,040
didn't want to just have this huge open area and then all of a sudden have

518
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:42,180
all this demand for these rides and then how do we pay for it how do we be

519
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:48,380
able to manage that and so we were very cautious and we've been expanding as time goes on to

520
00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:52,840
make sure that you know I mean I think the goal is to stay within everybody's budgets

521
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:58,800
and without an increase and we've really tried to focus on that if not you know reduce

522
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:05,640
the local shares and so you know there's a balance in how we do that and I think

523
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,640
that we can you know if there's areas that need service you know or developing

524
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,420
areas and those types of things adding on demand is something that's very easily

525
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:19,420
for us to be able to do that. Okay thank you. Thank you. All the person

526
00:34:19,420 --> 00:34:24,520
answering. Just a little more on the zones. Yes. So like Lible Street and

527
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:31,220
La Bruin Street are a no-order, that's the right terminology, so even though

528
00:34:31,220 --> 00:34:36,720
that's outside of zone 3, the blue area on the map, they can go directly

529
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:42,500
there any time? Is that how that works? Yes, they can go to any of those areas that are

530
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:49,820
blue. Now the reason why you see select areas is because we based all of this on where we

531
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:54,480
saw ridership being utilized. Instead of saying, okay, we're going to cover the whole city

532
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,440
of deep here because then all of a sudden that's going to be an increase in numbers

533
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,780
and I can tell you 12 vehicles would not meet our demand. So we really, when

534
00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:07,600
When we first implemented this mode of transit, we wanted to make sure that we were servicing

535
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,420
those that were already using transit and where we saw people utilizing it.

536
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,680
That's where all, this is all data driven.

537
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
This is all where we saw people utilizing services.

538
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,360
So our goal to start with was not to expand, it was really to make sure that we were

539
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,060
meeting the current needs and we could go forward from there.

540
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,320
So again, we picked up and dropped off anywhere in the zones or in any of those

541
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,580
nodes.

542
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:31,200
Correct.

543
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:36,200
and typically what ends up happening is it will shoot you to a corner and the

544
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,880
reason is because we run on time right? We don't want to have drivers driving up

545
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,220
and down the street trying to look for a certain address. So if you live in the

546
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:45,820
middle of the block it's going to shoot you to the corner to tell you to get

547
00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:50,680
picked up there. Again for individuals that have disabilities we can arrange

548
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,980
that to make sure that that's door-to-door for you. And then we talked

549
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:58,420
about this in January at a constituent by Optimist Park. He lives 1.7 miles

550
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:01,020
from the high school so he doesn't qualify for the bussing.

551
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,560
I just wanted to know if you could talk a little bit more about kind of the reasoning behind

552
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,300
not bringing people to the schools. I know it's probably too much demand.

553
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,080
And then also he was requesting right now the zone 2 ends on Webster.

554
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,920
He would like to see that push further east to Lible Street,

555
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:18,820
because then you could still get dropped off there and walk to the schools.

556
00:36:19,540 --> 00:36:21,180
Is that something that can be considered?

557
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,320
So that is on our list.

558
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,760
Next, we actually, we do get quite a few requests, and I will tell you that we have a committee

559
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,480
that looks at these on a regular basis.

560
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,720
There's some behind the scenes stuff that has to happen for us from a software perspective.

561
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:38,940
I always think it can happen in five minutes, but they do tell me it takes a little bit

562
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:39,400
more than that.

563
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,120
So we do have a few items on the list, and I can double check, but I'm almost positive

564
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,440
that one is on that list for that to happen in our next go around.

565
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,660
We don't want to constantly be changing this once a month or something like that.

566
00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:55,360
So we really try to focus on maybe two or three times a year

567
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,940
is what we're gonna try to be doing,

568
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:58,040
but I'm almost positive.

569
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:59,440
And I can respond back to you to make sure,

570
00:36:59,460 --> 00:37:01,280
but I do think that one is on that list.

571
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:02,940
Back to the school,

572
00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:05,620
we do not wanna flood the service

573
00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:07,660
with providing students to school.

574
00:37:07,820 --> 00:37:10,200
I mean, typically that's where your school bus comes in

575
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,180
because I will tell you

576
00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:13,760
that if we started servicing school,

577
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,400
I mean, we would not be able to meet the demand

578
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,140
and provide any other service at that time

579
00:37:18,140 --> 00:37:19,660
because kids are gonna want to take

580
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,480
that on-demand service there.

581
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,920
and typically at those times I will tell you like the CP Center is you know we

582
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,300
have a time period from about 7 30 to 9 that is just probably all of our vehicles

583
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:36,020
are tied up there you know so we really want to be cautious of that and we're

584
00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:40,540
not we don't want to replace or take the spot of a school bus service in any

585
00:37:40,540 --> 00:37:45,200
means but we definitely want to make sure we're meeting the other demands

586
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,040
and one more quick since we don't have any more fixed routes I'm just

587
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,240
I'm just wondering why we still have some of those bus stop signs in the city.

588
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,320
George Street and...

589
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,120
If you do, please let me know and I will have them removed.

590
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:02,700
They probably were just missed when they were removed because they all should have been removed.

591
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,940
A couple shelters still remain because that is where people will utilize yet for the on-demand service.

592
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,220
But if there are, the signs themselves should be removed.

593
00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,160
So if you do see them, let me know and I can send our crew out.

594
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Okay, thanks.

595
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,760
All good.

596
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,220
Other questions or comments?

597
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,180
All the person live enough.

598
00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:23,520
Can you remind me how do people have to have a smartphone to book a ride?

599
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,240
They do not.

600
00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:26,320
You can't call.

601
00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:29,040
So it is all completely ADA accessible.

602
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,900
Our paratransit service individuals always had to call to schedule paratransit for the

603
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:34,260
disabled.

604
00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:37,380
That's a requirement for us from the Federal Transit Administration.

605
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:42,220
So a phone option is always an option even for individuals if they get on the bus

606
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:46,180
because the way our service is designed, you really kind of need in order to cover

607
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:47,860
for all of the communities, you're really being,

608
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,820
you know, you're utilizing microtransit and fixed route.

609
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,840
If you get on any of the buses, you cannot,

610
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:54,240
there's a phone on those buses

611
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:55,960
that you can utilize to book your ride as well.

612
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,720
That's all pre-programmed.

613
00:38:58,020 --> 00:38:58,420
Thank you.

614
00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:00,740
All good, all the person can'ts.

615
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:02,860
Okay, I have a couple questions.

616
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:03,620
Sure.

617
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,360
Can they take the on-demand anytime

618
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
or only when the fixed routes are not running?

619
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:15,060
So the on-demand service is limited to the zones

620
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:22,520
If fixed route service is operating, if fixed route service is not operating, then it is system-wide.

621
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:32,020
And so, and the reason for that is, is because we operate fixed route service, when we see, when the data tells us that there's a lot of numbers,

622
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,460
and I'll give you an example, and I just, I use the example of Walmart on West Mason Street, okay?

623
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,160
We average about 24 people per hour on that route.

624
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,860
I could never meet that demand with microtransit.

625
00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:49,140
And so when we see heavily utilized areas, that's where we really focus on the fixed route service.

626
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,560
And so when we introduced this motor transportation, we actually reduced all the fixed route frequency to 30-minute frequency.

627
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,140
And that is very good frequency in our area. This is not Chicago. I'm sorry. It's not every 10 minutes.

628
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:05,000
But 30 minutes is the best we can do.

629
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:14,120
So that really gives those individuals options at those transfer points that buses are going to be there every 30 minutes if you're switching from one mode to the other.

630
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:24,160
But at night, 6.45 at night is where we saw numbers greatly decline. That is why 6.45 p.m. to 11.30 p.m. it's system-wide.

631
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:30,640
And then on Saturdays again, 7.45 in the morning until 1.45 fixed route is utilized.

632
00:40:31,060 --> 00:40:38,580
So you kind of need the both depending where you're going, but after 1.45 until 6.45 is all microtransit.

633
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:40,960
Thank you.

634
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:49,320
Is it easy to buy a bus pass for people? Do they have to go to the transit office? Can they do it online?

635
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,640
They can do it online. We have an eFair app. They can do it in the app when they book their ride.

636
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,500
And when you get on the on-demand vehicle, you can purchase as well.

637
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:01,020
So you can do cash, you can do credit card, you can set up an account.

638
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,060
Do you try to organize the on-demand routes?

639
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Like sometimes Uber says we're not going to be there in 10 minutes.

640
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:13,680
We're going to be there in 15 because we're picking somebody else up.

641
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,840
It is a shared ride service.

642
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:19,380
And so it is all done by software.

643
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,380
So the company that we contract right now is VIA.

644
00:41:23,660 --> 00:41:25,480
They are a national company.

645
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,620
this is what they specialize in so that it all ties in and so that's why I say

646
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:34,580
when somebody books a trip sometimes you know I've been at places where I book a

647
00:41:34,580 --> 00:41:37,460
trip and it'll say 23 minutes and I'd be like oh I don't want to wait that long

648
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:41,680
and I come out of it and go right back in and then I'll have a three-minute

649
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,020
option and so it just truly depends and you can see those vehicles right on

650
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:52,400
there and so you can pick your options so. Do you help people download the

651
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,280
Yeah, if they don't know how, can I call in and get help?

652
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,100
They can.

653
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,480
They can come to transit.

654
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,740
Or Andrea is happy to go out and meet.

655
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:01,860
And she will help people download it.

656
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,960
She will help you set it up.

657
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,740
She can get your favorite trips put right in there.

658
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:07,540
So it's all set.

659
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:10,080
And then usually through that process a lot of times

660
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,220
is where we can make those decisions

661
00:42:12,220 --> 00:42:13,840
if we see there's some extra help that

662
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,420
is needed for the rider that we

663
00:42:15,420 --> 00:42:17,500
can kind of put some parameters in there

664
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:19,560
to make that booking option easier for them as well.

665
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:25,020
Thank you. And last question, do you go to the airport from here?

666
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:25,760
We do.

667
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,060
We do.

668
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,560
And the cost?

669
00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:33,800
So if you are utilizing the on-demand service, it's $2 one way.

670
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,800
Currently, to the end of the year, there is a reduced fare 30-day pass,

671
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,420
which is unlimited for fixed route or on-demand service.

672
00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:44,380
And that pass is typically $29.

673
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:46,380
There's been a $20 reduction.

674
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:51,980
So, yes, it is $9 for 30 days for the remainder of the year, and that's due to some additional funding that came in.

675
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:58,160
For adults, the typical adult 30-day pass is $39, and that is now $19 for the remainder of the year.

676
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,340
So I would say stack up on your passes before January 1.

677
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:02,880
Thank you.

678
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:03,840
You're very welcome.

679
00:43:04,340 --> 00:43:06,640
All the person, Governor, do you offer services on Sunday?

680
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,300
Currently, no.

681
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:10,320
And I will tell you, in my time, we never have.

682
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:17,180
And so that's probably one of the most requested thing that comes up when we do surveys is Sunday service.

683
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:24,400
I will tell you that what traditionally fixed route is what we had for options until we introduced this mode of transit.

684
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,260
This is something that we are currently working on our five-year TDP at this point, our Transit Development Plan.

685
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:32,300
This has come up quite a bit.

686
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:39,760
I think this additional mode of transportation definitely opens the door for us to consider because we can really control the time, right?

687
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,940
If we want to try it from 8 to 1 and see how it goes, I've been very open from the get-go

688
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:52,100
of this of baby-stepping things because we don't want to all of a sudden, I don't think

689
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:56,440
Larry would appreciate if I called him up and told him his bill doubled in any means.

690
00:43:57,140 --> 00:43:58,120
So, right?

691
00:43:58,740 --> 00:43:59,380
Is that good?

692
00:44:00,260 --> 00:44:00,980
Oh, they would?

693
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,280
$8,000.

694
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:07,180
So we've really been cautious on that so we can control because I think we all

695
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:07,560
know, right?

696
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,420
once we put something out it's very difficult to take things back and so we really want to

697
00:44:11,420 --> 00:44:16,860
make sure we're living within the means and in all of those things so I think it's very realistic

698
00:44:16,860 --> 00:44:22,960
for that to be in the in the near future. And the reason I ask is because these people that needed

699
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,100
a ride during the week to go to work still a lot of places are open on Sunday you know I mean

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00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,300
that they need to get to work and that's why I'm asking thank you. Yes absolutely and I

701
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:36,540
would tell you traditionally with fixed route service pre-pandemic it would typically cost

702
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:41,400
about $150,000 per hour to add fixed road service, which is why it never ran on

703
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,620
Sundays, or I'm sorry on Sundays, and very limited on Saturdays. With the

704
00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:50,920
on-demand service, I mean it is tremendously less than that, so it

705
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,040
really gives us the ability to look at those things. Thank you. Alderperson

706
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,040
rash follow-up, you get one. Yeah, just one. And maybe a quick comment.

707
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,400
Do you ever consolidate riders on the microtransit? So in other words, you've got two people picking

708
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,000
up the same node or same location going in a general same direction. Does that ever happen?

709
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,560
So we do. It is a shared ride service. And so it can have up to six individuals is what

710
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,580
we have at CapDat. We have not had issues with that. I will tell you our goal is

711
00:45:19,580 --> 00:45:23,500
really to be, we want to be able to average all day long three at a time. That's really

712
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:29,420
our goal just from a cost perspective. But it can be shared ride. It just really

713
00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:34,160
depends and I will tell you those that utilize public transportation tend to learn this like

714
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,240
the back of their hand. They know when it's the busy time, when it is not, and how to maneuver

715
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:44,940
things around. And so it's been great. I know it's been a learning curve for some folks

716
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:50,860
and a huge learning curve for the residents of the city of DPR. And so we have focused

717
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:56,320
a lot on radio and advertising and all different things in this area specifically

718
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,500
specifically because of that because I do know that's the image right is there's no bustle

719
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:05,840
people are like okay there's no bustle and there is it's just it's different and so change

720
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,420
is always a challenge sometimes.

721
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:10,520
Thank you other questions.

722
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,020
I'm assuming we're not going to touch on the sign reserves for any extra cost correct?

723
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:16,220
Not today.

724
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:16,880
Not today.

725
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,900
Not today anyways.

726
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,320
We've got $80,000.

727
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:22,380
81,000.

728
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:23,160
81,000.

729
00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:25,840
I will say that I got an email today or a phone call.

730
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,500
from a resident which I get periodically or every now and then regarding the transit

731
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,240
system and I just forward it to Patty and then they handle it so she does a great

732
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,960
job with it. I already responded to that. Actually one of the questions kind of

733
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,360
similar to something that you all have been talking about so yeah Patty will say

734
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,300
don't hesitate to reach out to her. Yes absolutely and I will tell you the

735
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:45,480
biggest thing is that you know when you look at these zones and you see

736
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,060
that that line where it ends if somebody's on the opposite side of the

737
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:51,940
road it's going to tell them they're out of zone so then people kind of

738
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:55,240
freak out and they're like oh my gosh I have no service and it's like so

739
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:59,040
So we really do try to make sure we're covering both sides of those, but this is technology,

740
00:46:59,300 --> 00:46:59,440
right?

741
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,920
So sometimes we got to tweak things a little bit, but sometimes, especially in the beginning,

742
00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:07,720
because maybe one side of Webster was in and not the other, and if they were standing a

743
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:11,240
little bit off and they're booking because it uses your GPS, it'd be like you're out

744
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,600
of the zone because you truly were.

745
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,860
So we had a lot of that tweaking to do as we went through it.

746
00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:17,920
So some of those things are very easy for us to do.

747
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,820
And you're very responsive, so I appreciate that.

748
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:20,240
Thank you.

749
00:47:20,260 --> 00:47:20,580
Yes, absolutely.

750
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,260
Thank you.

751
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,340
Any other questions or comments?

752
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:25,820
Again, on behalf of all of us, thank you very much, so thank you, Patty.

753
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Perfect. I'll leave some of this information, and so if there's anything I can do, let me know.

754
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:29,660
Thank you.

755
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,320
Okay. Thanks.

756
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:38,280
All right. Up next, Item 9, Presentation by Staff GIS Analyst, Kristen Vincent,

757
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:41,480
on Leadership Green Bay Orchard Project. It's all yours.

758
00:47:52,310 --> 00:47:56,650
All right. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I'm excited to be here again.

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00:47:57,130 --> 00:48:00,210
My name is Kristen. I'm a GIS Analyst with the City.

760
00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:05,850
I recently completed a nine-month professional development program called Leadership Green Bay.

761
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:10,250
And when I was talking with Larry about the program, he thought this would be a good opportunity

762
00:48:10,250 --> 00:48:16,150
to come and share with you all information about Leadership Green Bay, what I learned, and what I accomplished.

763
00:48:16,810 --> 00:48:23,050
So I will spend about 10 or so minutes talking about the program for those who are unfamiliar with it,

764
00:48:23,230 --> 00:48:27,070
talking about the small group project portion of Leadership Green Bay,

765
00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:31,450
and then towards the end I will circle back to Depeer and talk about potential

766
00:48:31,450 --> 00:48:32,950
impacts for this community.

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00:48:35,090 --> 00:48:37,910
So Leadership Green Bay is a program of the

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00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:44,550
Greater Green Bay Chamber. It was started in 1985. My class was the 39th class. We

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00:48:44,550 --> 00:48:48,850
are all pictured there at one of our session days. There were about 40 or so

770
00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:54,170
in the class this year. It was one of the largest classes. The program

771
00:48:54,170 --> 00:49:01,090
consists of monthly session days which involved speakers coming in or even us

772
00:49:01,090 --> 00:49:07,070
going out into the community and learning about different aspects, different pros

773
00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:11,130
and cons in the community. Session days had different themes whether it was

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00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:16,310
government day, economic development day, human services day, things like that. We

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00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:21,550
meet once a month and focus on a different theme and just have this

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00:49:21,550 --> 00:49:25,190
greater awareness for things that are good and bad that are going on in our

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00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:31,210
community. And an overarching aspect of the program is a what I call a small

778
00:49:31,210 --> 00:49:36,910
group community service project. So we were divided into smaller teams. This is

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00:49:36,910 --> 00:49:42,770
my team here. And we were tasked with identifying something in the community

780
00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:48,270
we thought that we could help improve. And we were in charge of identifying a

781
00:49:48,270 --> 00:49:53,390
project fundraising and implementing the project and seeing it through to

782
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:59,150
completion. So as you can see there from all of our job titles and our employers

783
00:49:59,150 --> 00:50:03,650
we have a lot of different skill sets. We come from various backgrounds so it was

784
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:08,130
really fun working with my team and learning about them and working on a

785
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:13,790
really exciting project with them. So before I dive more into our small

786
00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:17,190
group project I just wanted to take a few minutes and talk about the

787
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:20,910
takeaways that I had from the different session days.

788
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:23,690
And I think one of the biggest things I learned

789
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:27,290
was just this general awareness of everything

790
00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:28,810
that's happening in the community.

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00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:32,550
And a lot of that was because of the hands-on learning

792
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:34,250
from going to places.

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00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:37,690
So those pictures there are from different events

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00:50:37,690 --> 00:50:38,730
that we attended.

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And just going into some of these different spaces,

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00:50:42,270 --> 00:50:46,370
the one is Titletown Tech or at Green Bay City Hall.

797
00:50:46,370 --> 00:50:51,410
and it wasn't just in Green Bay, we visited places all over all over Brown

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00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:54,730
County. So just this general awareness of what's going on in the community and

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00:50:55,310 --> 00:51:01,390
not necessarily the bad but also the good and what other people are are doing to

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00:51:01,390 --> 00:51:05,830
help the community. Another main takeaway from the program to me was what

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00:51:05,830 --> 00:51:11,950
we called our community giving days. So this was this had a really big impact

802
00:51:11,950 --> 00:51:17,710
on me because I realized that by doing something so small you could have a really big impact.

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00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:24,930
So what I mean by that is for our community giving days every month a different team was tasked

804
00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:30,650
with identifying an organization that they wanted to donate to whether it was books or can food

805
00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:36,050
items and our class was then tasked with bringing in items whatever we were comfortable with whatever

806
00:51:36,050 --> 00:51:42,310
we were able to bring in and then that team would then donate those items to

807
00:51:42,310 --> 00:51:46,230
that organization of their choosing. And it was fun every session day to watch as

808
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:50,300
people were coming in for the day. The pile of items would start to grow and

809
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:55,270
it was just really really interesting and really neat to see just how

810
00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:58,350
something so small could turn into something so big and you could actually

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00:51:58,350 --> 00:52:04,490
see the the positive impacts that we were having on the community. So now

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00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:07,590
Now I will turn to focusing more on our small group project.

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00:52:08,190 --> 00:52:16,190
So like I mentioned earlier, the picture that I showed with the nine people that was my

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00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:22,210
team five, my team, when we first met we were trying to decide what our common interests

815
00:52:22,210 --> 00:52:22,490
were.

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00:52:22,550 --> 00:52:23,830
We were trying to find a common ground.

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00:52:24,210 --> 00:52:30,930
We didn't know each other so we were still trying to just break the ice and networking

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00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:35,870
But we learned that we were all interested in sustainability and the environment, and

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00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:40,330
we thought that that would be a really good angle to go for our small group project as

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00:52:40,330 --> 00:52:42,870
part of the larger Leadership Green Bay program.

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00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:47,770
And through Leadership Green Bay, we learned of an organization called New Leaf Foods.

822
00:52:48,270 --> 00:52:56,530
And we learned about their urban food forest initiatives and their mission for food security.

823
00:52:57,130 --> 00:53:07,250
Once we learned about them and got to talking with their team, we realized that they would be a really good nonprofit partner, you could say, for our group project.

824
00:53:07,650 --> 00:53:16,090
We wanted to help them, we wanted to help advance their mission, and then it was also something that was really personal to us, given our common interests.

825
00:53:16,750 --> 00:53:22,110
So we worked with them and decided that an urban orchard would be a really good group project,

826
00:53:22,250 --> 00:53:27,590
something that was really important, something that was feasible, something that we could tackle,

827
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:32,190
and also something that was new to all of us but yet fit within our goals.

828
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:39,690
So one aspect of Leadership Green Bay is that our project beneficiary could not be related to our employer,

829
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:45,470
so we had to find a neutral party and that ended up being the Green Bay Area Public School District.

830
00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:49,770
We worked with their team and they helped us identify a school,

831
00:53:50,050 --> 00:53:56,150
Chapel Elementary School, that would be a good recipient of an orchard.

832
00:53:56,690 --> 00:54:03,670
And thinking about the space that they have and talking with their administration,

833
00:54:04,330 --> 00:54:10,710
we decided that six fruit trees would be an ideal project scope

834
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:13,070
as well as various other pollinator plants.

835
00:54:13,070 --> 00:54:22,030
funds. So we had this plan in place, we decided on a number of trees, but then we had a place

836
00:54:22,030 --> 00:54:27,410
as well, a place in mind, but we needed the funds for it. So this is a really interesting

837
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:31,850
angle of leadership green bay that a different skill set that I wasn't expecting to gain

838
00:54:31,850 --> 00:54:40,050
was the idea of fundraising and grant writing and budgeting, and I did not have many skills

839
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:42,410
in that going into it or especially at this scale.

840
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:45,610
So that was a really interesting process.

841
00:54:45,790 --> 00:54:47,510
I know I have the word challenges on the screen,

842
00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:51,030
but really it's more of the learning curve and learning.

843
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:54,930
So we have newly foods as our nonprofit partner

844
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:56,930
and then we have the school district

845
00:54:56,930 --> 00:55:00,030
who will be the beneficiary and then we have our donors.

846
00:55:00,330 --> 00:55:02,090
So it's just connecting the dots of the pieces,

847
00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:03,510
making sure you have the right paperwork,

848
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:08,730
the right forms to get from donor to the beneficiary.

849
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:17,130
And our group was very fortunate in that our donors all came from employers of my team members.

850
00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:24,170
So there were a few employers on our team that had either donated to Leadership Green Bay in the past

851
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:27,730
or they had grant windows that were open in the time we needed it to be open.

852
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:36,330
And we were very fortunate that they were very generous and we were able to source almost all of our donations through them.

853
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:40,650
So then we have very, very positive outcomes with our fundraising.

854
00:55:42,050 --> 00:55:47,650
So like I mentioned, Chapel Elementary School was a recipient of our orchard and it was

855
00:55:47,650 --> 00:55:51,830
really great working with their team and also working with the new leaf team, figuring,

856
00:55:53,050 --> 00:55:59,250
deciding where to source the trees, how to get them shipped to the school and the

857
00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:06,270
school district helped receive the shipment and water the trees until it was planted

858
00:56:06,270 --> 00:56:11,650
day and the pictures below you can see it was it was a very successful day the

859
00:56:11,650 --> 00:56:15,790
kids first grade class got to help with the planting they had their little

860
00:56:15,790 --> 00:56:21,810
shovels and the parents were invited to come and have a picnic lunch with the

861
00:56:21,810 --> 00:56:26,150
students and they had the school set up other different activities related to

862
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:30,430
planting so it was really rewarding to be a part of that and to

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00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:35,250
see that and to see how excited they were and help them be hands-on in

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00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:40,110
this process. And I'm not sure if you can tell or not in those pictures but the

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00:56:40,110 --> 00:56:44,250
trees are a little bit larger than you might expect for starting an orchard

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00:56:44,250 --> 00:56:49,930
and that was intentional. So one of the requests was that we purchase more

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00:56:49,930 --> 00:56:54,550
mature fruit trees that might produce fruit within a year or two and that

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00:56:54,550 --> 00:56:59,850
was so in hopes that many of the students will still be at Chapel and

869
00:56:59,850 --> 00:57:03,690
we'll be able to see the tree actually produce fruit and then be able to

870
00:57:03,690 --> 00:57:08,750
understand the the life cycle and the process from being planting to producing

871
00:57:08,750 --> 00:57:13,730
this fruit. And like I mentioned earlier we had very successful outcomes to our

872
00:57:13,730 --> 00:57:18,830
fundraising so a few days later we actually planted a second orchard. This

873
00:57:18,830 --> 00:57:25,970
is at Red Smith also in the Green Bay School district and we learned pretty

874
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:31,030
early on that we might have funds to do a second orchard so we were able to

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00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:35,130
cut down on shipping costs by having Red Smith and Chapel's trees all delivered

876
00:57:35,130 --> 00:57:38,950
at the same time and again the school district was really great in helping us

877
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:43,590
take care of the trees over the weekend and making sure they were watered and

878
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:48,570
taking care of until the until the planting day happened. And this then

879
00:57:48,570 --> 00:57:52,810
was with the middle schoolers they were helping us plant the trees there

880
00:57:52,810 --> 00:57:57,030
and it was really fun the principal grabbed a shovel and he was he was

881
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:58,110
is digging right along with us.

882
00:57:58,270 --> 00:58:01,190
And at both schools, the principals and administration,

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00:58:01,490 --> 00:58:04,510
they were all very helpful and very excited

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00:58:04,510 --> 00:58:05,410
and very appreciative.

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00:58:05,410 --> 00:58:08,650
So it was a super rewarding experience.

886
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:13,470
And our project actually is continuing on.

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00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:17,010
We do have funds to plant two to three more orchards

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00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:19,630
of the same scope, which is roughly six fruit trees.

889
00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:21,290
So a big thank you again to our donors.

890
00:58:21,930 --> 00:58:25,410
Our group plans to pick up talks again in August

891
00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:30,170
for identifying sites and identifying a timeline.

892
00:58:30,810 --> 00:58:35,670
We'd like to either plant later this fall, if possible, or into next spring.

893
00:58:36,010 --> 00:58:38,830
It all depends on the beneficiary and what works best for them,

894
00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:41,510
because if it's a school, they'd like to have the students involved,

895
00:58:41,930 --> 00:58:48,610
and then also what's best for the trees and what we're able to source at the different times of year.

896
00:58:50,370 --> 00:58:52,750
So now, as I start to wrap up,

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00:58:52,750 --> 00:58:56,250
I want to take a few minutes and talk about potential depear impacts.

898
00:58:56,790 --> 00:59:02,790
So first, from a personal level, a big thank you to Mayor, Larry, and all of you for supporting

899
00:59:02,790 --> 00:59:06,130
such professional development opportunities as these.

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00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:10,410
I gained so many more skills than I ever imagined.

901
00:59:10,730 --> 00:59:15,570
I know I had certain goals going into the program, and I obtained those goals and

902
00:59:15,570 --> 00:59:20,210
then some, and it was also great using my resources and connections that I have

903
00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:21,150
here at the city.

904
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:26,810
I know that I contacted multiple city staff members asking them for their advice like how do you do this?

905
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:28,130
How do you do that? How do you do that?

906
00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:35,270
You have opinions on advice on this and it was really great being able to take that advice and transfer it over to my team and

907
00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:40,110
Advice first of all then learning from their employers and their experiences and how to help us

908
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:45,190
And then also through the program. I learned about multiple classmates who live and work into peer

909
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:50,870
So it was really great talking to them learning their connections and their experiences in the city

910
00:59:52,090 --> 00:59:56,810
So, one little side note is that one of my teammates actually worked right across the

911
00:59:56,810 --> 00:59:59,990
bridge and we didn't know that we worked so close to each other.

912
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,540
I'm like, oh, we could have carpooled to so many of these different events. So just having

913
01:00:03,540 --> 01:00:08,740
those connections and those experiences is really great. But then thinking of more bigger picture

914
01:00:08,740 --> 01:00:13,920
of this idea of shared knowledge. So I know that the city does have an urban orchard team.

915
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:20,600
I know that my team would be more than happy to share our experiences with them or learn

916
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:26,720
from that team's experiences as well. And, you know, just this idea of a template

917
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,500
template for others to follow and creating, taking everything that we know and maybe creating

918
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:31,860
a blueprint.

919
01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:38,680
I know that in our talks with New Leaf Foods that that was one idea of creating this template

920
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:44,700
or this document for other organizations and other people to follow if they do want

921
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:49,680
to do a similar project to help that run smoothly and I think that could have positive

922
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,060
impacts on the community.

923
01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:56,360
So with that, my team would like to give a big thank you to the Green Bay Chamber

924
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,360
and leadership Green Bay for having us in this program as well as newly foods for allowing

925
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,060
us to work with them and to help them advance their mission as well as helping us with our

926
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:11,520
project and the Green Bay School District for being a beneficiary of our orchard so far.

927
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,560
And then also for me a big thank you to the City of Depeer for letting me be a part of

928
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:22,620
this opportunity, this professional development opportunity. So with that thank you and I

929
01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:23,460
I will take any questions.

930
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,140
Any questions, anybody?

931
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,240
Other person, Rash?

932
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:29,620
I think one of the, it's a good program, right?

933
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,420
I think one of the great things about it

934
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:33,880
is that you also join a network of other people

935
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,120
that have graduated from the class

936
01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:38,220
that you can tap into, and like for example,

937
01:01:38,340 --> 01:01:39,700
Colleen Matthews on your group,

938
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,120
I know her from other networking stuff.

939
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,100
But I don't know how many other people

940
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:45,480
are graduates of Leadership Green Bay

941
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,600
in the class besides myself.

942
01:01:47,380 --> 01:01:48,140
I thought, yeah, I thought,

943
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Shannon, you were Dan, you know?

944
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:51,580
So what year were you?

945
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:59,420
You'll start to bump into people in time that have all gone through the program, and there's

946
01:01:59,420 --> 01:02:00,680
a lot of good stuff that came out of it.

947
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:06,320
I learned and met Mary Jane through leadership, so we all got to know her through history,

948
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:06,540
right?

949
01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:08,820
I thought that was the first class in 1960.

950
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,680
Mary Jane.

951
01:02:13,140 --> 01:02:14,020
She's still in there.

952
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:17,300
Anyway, so I appreciate the presentation.

953
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,580
I think you guys did a great job.

954
01:02:19,540 --> 01:02:21,860
Nice project, but welcome to the alumni.

955
01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:25,500
Thank you. Thank you. Other questions or comments?

956
01:02:26,620 --> 01:02:29,980
I know this is something that Larry Champions for you all to do this, so it's very beneficial.

957
01:02:30,580 --> 01:02:34,700
And I think it sounds like you really enjoyed it. And I appreciate you presenting this. Thank you, Kristen.

958
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,580
Thank you. And we're all good. Thank you very much. I think Dan's got a question.

959
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,380
Oh, Dan. I had one. As Kristen's department head

960
01:02:42,380 --> 01:02:46,220
and the GIS division being under the development services department,

961
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,820
Bill Boyle and I would like to extend a thank you to the council for allowing

962
01:02:50,820 --> 01:02:55,100
Kristen to go through this process. We witnessed her growth in that 10-month

963
01:02:55,100 --> 01:02:59,420
timeframe, leaps and bounds to what we expected. And so just watching her here

964
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:02,940
today kind of present where she may have been a year ago. I can tell you

965
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:05,880
it was leaps and bounds. She was much more confident in the public speaking

966
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,640
realm, but just again making the connections out going out going through

967
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,680
that that process. We've watched her sort of leaps and bounds grow and

968
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,760
even in the project management side of it. She's taken that step as well. So

969
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,300
Thank you to the council for allowing our staff to grow into their roles.

970
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,560
I think this is the point where you asked for a raise.

971
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,600
Very high, very high.

972
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:27,560
Here yet someplace.

973
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,940
Very high phrase. Thank you, Dan. Thank you again, Kristen.

974
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Nice.

975
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:38,940
All right.

976
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:46,420
Item 10. Recommendation from Plan Commission to approve an extraterritorial three-lot certified

977
01:03:46,420 --> 01:03:52,880
survey map at 1700 Williams Grant Drive in Lawrence, parcel L169.

978
01:03:53,620 --> 01:03:55,140
I'll make a motion to approve.

979
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,100
I'll second.

980
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,780
Motion by Alderperson Rash. Second by Alderperson Quigley. Any comments or discussion?

981
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,320
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

982
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:05,920
Aye.

983
01:04:06,580 --> 01:04:08,920
Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.

984
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:09,220
Thank you.

985
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:16,400
Item 11, recommendation from Historic Preservation Commission to approve $3,800 proposal from

986
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:22,460
Joan Sein for the design and printing of 55 individual historic district signs to be installed

987
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:28,040
by property owners in and near the Mansion Street World War II Defense Homes Historic

988
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,740
District and Daviswood Ranch Homes Historic District.

989
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,620
Move to approve.

990
01:04:33,020 --> 01:04:33,480
I'll second.

991
01:04:33,780 --> 01:04:35,060
Motion by Elder Person Hanson.

992
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:36,480
The second by Elder Person Gantz.

993
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,600
Any discussion or comments?

994
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,100
All the person Hansen.

995
01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:42,460
All the person Ledvinah's house is in one of these districts

996
01:04:42,460 --> 01:04:46,020
and just wanted to be noted that we had to reject her request

997
01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:48,340
to have the plaque say Shayna Ledvinah house

998
01:04:48,340 --> 01:04:49,820
because we have to use the historic name.

999
01:04:50,060 --> 01:04:50,180
Sorry.

1000
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:54,120
I was joking.

1001
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,240
That was a good one though.

1002
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:57,680
Very funny.

1003
01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:59,000
But for that I won't be voting for this.

1004
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,400
You're abstaining.

1005
01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:02,800
Should I abstain?

1006
01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:03,300
No.

1007
01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:05,280
Conflict of interest.

1008
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,760
Can we get an attorney review on that?

1009
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,200
You got your advice, you're okay.

1010
01:05:12,220 --> 01:05:13,800
Other comments and or questions?

1011
01:05:14,300 --> 01:05:14,980
Were you done?

1012
01:05:15,340 --> 01:05:15,440
Yeah.

1013
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,300
All right, that said, we have a roll call vote.

1014
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:20,780
Alderperson Carpenter?

1015
01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:21,140
Aye.

1016
01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:22,040
Gantz?

1017
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,340
Aye.

1018
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:23,060
Hansen?

1019
01:05:23,220 --> 01:05:23,400
Aye.

1020
01:05:23,740 --> 01:05:24,120
Conninger?

1021
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:24,480
Aye.

1022
01:05:24,780 --> 01:05:25,220
Ledvinna?

1023
01:05:25,420 --> 01:05:25,480
Aye.

1024
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,380
Pirok?

1025
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:26,720
Aye.

1026
01:05:27,060 --> 01:05:27,400
Quigley?

1027
01:05:27,660 --> 01:05:27,920
Aye.

1028
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:28,440
Rash?

1029
01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:38,440
motion carries thank you item 12 recommendation from the board of park commissioners to accept a

1030
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:43,520
two thousand five hundred dollar donation from Greta Johnson to recreation scholarship fund

1031
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:49,020
moved to approve motion by other person levin the second by other person conager any discussion

1032
01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:59,350
or comments seen there is none all those in favor say aye opposed motion carries thank you

1033
01:05:59,350 --> 01:06:07,050
Item 13, recommendation from Board of Heart Commissioners to accept a $1,000 donation from Deeper Rotary for the summer carnival.

1034
01:06:07,370 --> 01:06:08,310
I'll move to approve.

1035
01:06:09,130 --> 01:06:09,410
Second.

1036
01:06:09,730 --> 01:06:13,870
Motion by Alderperson Cuniger, second by Alderperson Rash, any discussion or comments?

1037
01:06:15,530 --> 01:06:18,410
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

1038
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:18,910
Aye.

1039
01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:20,130
Opposed?

1040
01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:21,570
Motion carries.

1041
01:06:21,790 --> 01:06:22,130
Thank you.

1042
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:31,230
Item 14. Recommendation from the Finance and Personnel Committee to accept donations to fund therapy dog program for the fire department.

1043
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:32,230
I'll move to proof.

1044
01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:32,850
I'll second.

1045
01:06:33,370 --> 01:06:37,230
Motion by all the person counter. You're second by all the person can't. That was really close, you two.

1046
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:39,010
Any questions or comments?

1047
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:40,970
All the person rash.

1048
01:06:41,310 --> 01:06:46,530
Yeah, I'm really struggling to accept this donation without actually getting a chance to meet the dog.

1049
01:06:47,870 --> 01:06:49,530
Well, I tell you...

1050
01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:50,030
To meet Stanley?

1051
01:06:50,550 --> 01:06:50,650
Yeah.

1052
01:06:54,530 --> 01:06:58,610
I brought Tammy with me who was the architect of this program and did a wonderful job and

1053
01:06:58,610 --> 01:07:02,750
I did bring Stanley to finance, but unfortunately this meeting was too long, so he wouldn't

1054
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:03,250
make it through this.

1055
01:07:03,250 --> 01:07:04,110
He'd sleep through this.

1056
01:07:04,250 --> 01:07:05,130
Give him a couple of treats.

1057
01:07:05,310 --> 01:07:06,970
We saw Stanley today in the office.

1058
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:08,390
We see him quite often.

1059
01:07:08,890 --> 01:07:10,310
Oh, he's always about.

1060
01:07:11,250 --> 01:07:11,630
Fine.

1061
01:07:12,010 --> 01:07:12,650
He's so cute.

1062
01:07:12,770 --> 01:07:13,490
It's a beer garden.

1063
01:07:14,550 --> 01:07:16,250
Any questions for Chief that you have?

1064
01:07:16,250 --> 01:07:17,090
No, I'm good.

1065
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:18,330
I just wanted to see the dog.

1066
01:07:18,550 --> 01:07:19,130
I haven't had a chance.

1067
01:07:19,390 --> 01:07:20,630
My schedule is just too tight.

1068
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:23,950
during the days. Chief would you like to say something then if you'd like to

1069
01:07:23,950 --> 01:07:27,910
introduce? Yeah I would like to introduce Tammy Ghosn. She came before we kicked off the program.

1070
01:07:28,510 --> 01:07:33,010
Tammy and her team set a goal of $10,000 to raise her fundraising. They far exceeded that goal.

1071
01:07:33,490 --> 01:07:38,250
At this point she'd like to just turn over the funds and as part of this I'm asking to have this

1072
01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:42,430
just established in a regular council as the bills come in for sampling. We just sort of pay

1073
01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:46,190
him out of that account. It's been amazing. He's done some great work on our staff.

1074
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:49,710
He's done great work throughout the entire city. We try to make at least a couple trips

1075
01:07:49,710 --> 01:07:54,710
around all city departments at least once a week and for twice so he's

1076
01:07:54,710 --> 01:08:00,090
spreading lots of goodwill and he's doing a real good job. He's got a lot of training left to do, but so far so good.

1077
01:08:01,110 --> 01:08:05,630
Thank you. Questions? Alderperson Hansen. So this is going to be very similar to

1078
01:08:05,630 --> 01:08:09,410
like the canine fund where it's just set aside specifically for ongoing

1079
01:08:09,410 --> 01:08:10,950
The answer is yes.

1080
01:08:11,450 --> 01:08:13,790
I think it's matching clothes for Al as a dog.

1081
01:08:16,270 --> 01:08:17,430
I'll donate to that.

1082
01:08:19,650 --> 01:08:22,530
We've got to pick the dog's outfit first, then Al has to match that.

1083
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:23,790
I will follow suit.

1084
01:08:25,010 --> 01:08:26,190
Other questions or comments?

1085
01:08:26,370 --> 01:08:27,290
Tammy, thank you very much.

1086
01:08:27,390 --> 01:08:28,630
By the way, this is extremely generous.

1087
01:08:28,810 --> 01:08:29,490
You did a great job.

1088
01:08:29,950 --> 01:08:30,710
Other person, Gantz?

1089
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:34,110
I just wanted to tell you thank you for getting all the funds together.

1090
01:08:34,650 --> 01:08:35,870
You did a great job.

1091
01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:37,850
Thank you very much.

1092
01:08:37,850 --> 01:08:38,490
Thank

1093
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:53,840
you. And I still want them when you go out of town.

1094
01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:57,680
Thank you. Other questions or comments?

1095
01:08:59,990 --> 01:09:03,210
Seeing there is none, all those in favor say aye.

1096
01:09:03,650 --> 01:09:03,950
Aye.

1097
01:09:04,850 --> 01:09:08,490
Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. It's official now, Tammy.

1098
01:09:08,710 --> 01:09:10,990
Congratulations. Thank you very much. Thanks, Chief.

1099
01:09:13,860 --> 01:09:16,000
Next item, item 15.

1100
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,680
Recommendation from Finance Personnel Committee to approve

1101
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,260
the 2024 non-benefit eligible employees wage schedule.

1102
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,640
Move to approve.

1103
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:26,900
I'll second.

1104
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:30,340
Motion by Alderperson Hansen, seconded by Alderperson Quigley.

1105
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,340
Discussion or comments?

1106
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:35,200
Alderperson Rash.

1107
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,120
Just real quick.

1108
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,080
How's the recruiting going for some of these positions?

1109
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:41,000
I mean, we're in such a type labor market.

1110
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,040
Tracy, are you going to handle that one?

1111
01:09:43,460 --> 01:09:44,480
I'm going to handle that one.

1112
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:44,740
Yeah.

1113
01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:48,320
So, I mean, it's going to depend on which position you're looking at.

1114
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,080
But some of them are going to be very specialty positions, so they're going to be a little

1115
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,400
bit harder to recruit for just because there are fewer employees out there.

1116
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,700
When we went ahead and did the survey, we were kind of looking at what others were paying

1117
01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:00,700
for these type of positions.

1118
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,780
So the ones that we're recommending increasing were the ones that we were kind of lagging

1119
01:10:03,780 --> 01:10:04,460
behind on.

1120
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,620
So we're not really seeing too many issues right now anyway, are we okay?

1121
01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:09,660
We're okay.

1122
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:10,060
Yep.

1123
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:10,800
Okay.

1124
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:11,580
Thank you.

1125
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:12,840
Thank you.

1126
01:10:12,940 --> 01:10:13,900
Other questions or comments?

1127
01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:17,320
Don't see any.

1128
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,160
That said, roll call vote please.

1129
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:20,640
Alderperson Gantz?

1130
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:21,100
Aye.

1131
01:10:21,420 --> 01:10:21,800
Hanson?

1132
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:22,300
Aye.

1133
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:22,960
Cundegir?

1134
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:23,340
Aye.

1135
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:24,120
Ledvinon?

1136
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:24,380
Aye.

1137
01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:25,200
Pirok?

1138
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:25,500
Aye.

1139
01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:26,120
Quigley?

1140
01:10:26,460 --> 01:10:26,680
Aye.

1141
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Rash?

1142
01:10:27,580 --> 01:10:27,780
Aye.

1143
01:10:28,180 --> 01:10:28,520
Carpenter?

1144
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:28,860
Aye.

1145
01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:31,040
Motion carries, thank you.

1146
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:42,500
Item 16, recommendation from Finance Personnel Committee on police request to maintain a credit card for travel and training purposes with a credit line of $2,500.

1147
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:43,960
I'll move to approve.

1148
01:10:44,860 --> 01:10:45,300
I'll second.

1149
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:48,260
Motion by Alderperson Cundegar, second by Alderperson Gantz.

1150
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,380
Any discussion or comments?

1151
01:10:51,530 --> 01:10:53,470
Seeing there is none, roll call vote please.

1152
01:10:53,670 --> 01:10:54,530
Alderperson Hanson.

1153
01:10:54,730 --> 01:10:54,870
Aye.

1154
01:10:55,190 --> 01:10:55,570
Cundegar?

1155
01:10:55,770 --> 01:10:55,970
Aye.

1156
01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:56,570
Ledvin?

1157
01:10:56,670 --> 01:10:56,970
Aye.

1158
01:10:57,370 --> 01:10:57,770
Piroch?

1159
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:58,110
Aye.

1160
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:58,770
Wigley?

1161
01:10:59,070 --> 01:10:59,310
Aye.

1162
01:10:59,670 --> 01:10:59,910
Rash?

1163
01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:00,410
Aye.

1164
01:11:00,750 --> 01:11:01,090
Carpenter?

1165
01:11:01,270 --> 01:11:01,370
Aye.

1166
01:11:01,810 --> 01:11:02,150
Gantz?

1167
01:11:02,330 --> 01:11:02,590
Aye.

1168
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:04,210
Motion carries, thank you.

1169
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:16,450
Item 17, recommendation from the Finance Personnel Committee on acceptance of $18,500 donation from the Cloud Family Foundation to police for use with the K-9 unit.

1170
01:11:16,450 --> 01:11:17,190
Move to approve.

1171
01:11:17,370 --> 01:11:17,650
Second.

1172
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:19,330
Everyone wants that one.

1173
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:22,450
Motion by older person rash, second and by older person.

1174
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:23,430
Who do I give it to?

1175
01:11:23,930 --> 01:11:24,250
Amy.

1176
01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:25,170
All the person kind of her?

1177
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:25,810
Mm-hmm.

1178
01:11:26,050 --> 01:11:26,990
Questions or comments?

1179
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:32,230
Again, big thank you to the Cloud Foundation in a conversation we had.

1180
01:11:32,690 --> 01:11:35,730
This is something that they thought very highly of, so it's outstanding.

1181
01:11:36,510 --> 01:11:38,410
That said, is this roll call or regular?

1182
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:39,010
Regular.

1183
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:41,510
That said, roll call, I'm sorry.

1184
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:45,230
That said all those, and it's been a long meeting that's still not done yet.

1185
01:11:45,230 --> 01:11:47,270
All those in favor say aye.

1186
01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:47,770
Aye.

1187
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:49,290
Opposed?

1188
01:11:49,970 --> 01:11:50,930
Motion carries.

1189
01:11:51,170 --> 01:11:51,650
Thank you.

1190
01:11:51,830 --> 01:11:52,690
16 more items.

1191
01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:54,110
Item 18.

1192
01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:57,910
Recommendation from the Finance Personnel Committee on

1193
01:11:57,910 --> 01:12:01,930
Acceptance of $1,500 donation from Walmart for the

1194
01:12:01,930 --> 01:12:03,450
Police Bike Safety Program.

1195
01:12:05,570 --> 01:12:06,910
Motion by other person.

1196
01:12:07,330 --> 01:12:09,690
I'll go to other person Gantz on this one.

1197
01:12:10,270 --> 01:12:11,890
Questions or comments that we have?

1198
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:21,330
Seeing there in is not all those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item 19

1199
01:12:21,330 --> 01:12:26,750
recommendation from the License Committee on Renewal Applications for the Licensing Period from July

1200
01:12:26,750 --> 01:12:34,490
1st, 2023 to June 30th, 2024. First up, Item A, Class A, fermented malt beverage liquor licenses.

1201
01:12:34,830 --> 01:12:39,290
Make a motion to approve the loan applicant. Second. Motion by Alderperson Carpenter.

1202
01:12:40,270 --> 01:12:43,270
seconded by Alderperson Pierock. Any discussion or comments?

1203
01:12:44,730 --> 01:12:47,470
Seeing there is none. All those in favor, say aye.

1204
01:12:47,650 --> 01:12:47,910
Aye.

1205
01:12:48,810 --> 01:12:51,370
Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.

1206
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:53,630
Up next, Class A, fermented malt beverage,

1207
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:56,090
and Class A, intoxicating liquor licenses.

1208
01:12:56,630 --> 01:12:58,470
Make a motion to approve the loan applicant.

1209
01:12:58,910 --> 01:12:59,370
Oh, second.

1210
01:12:59,590 --> 01:13:02,470
Motion by Alderperson Carpenter. Second by Alderperson Gantz.

1211
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:03,530
Any discussion or comments?

1212
01:13:04,850 --> 01:13:07,570
Seeing there is none. All those in favor, say aye.

1213
01:13:07,790 --> 01:13:08,030
Aye.

1214
01:13:08,030 --> 01:13:08,210
Aye.

1215
01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:09,270
Opposed?

1216
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:11,330
Motion carries, thank you.

1217
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:14,950
Item C, class B, fermented malt beverage licenses.

1218
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:17,270
Make a motion, approve the loan applicant.

1219
01:13:17,770 --> 01:13:18,030
Second.

1220
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:19,630
Motion by Alderperson Carpenter.

1221
01:13:19,950 --> 01:13:21,450
Second by Alderperson Pee Rock,

1222
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:22,650
any discussion or comments?

1223
01:13:24,230 --> 01:13:27,010
Seeing there is none, all those in favor say aye.

1224
01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:27,430
Aye.

1225
01:13:28,490 --> 01:13:29,050
Opposed?

1226
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:30,950
Motion carries, thank you.

1227
01:13:31,050 --> 01:13:32,450
I believe that covers all of them.

1228
01:13:33,090 --> 01:13:36,810
Item 20, ordinance 2308, repealing and reenacting

1229
01:13:36,810 --> 01:13:43,590
Section 611 of the DPR Municipal Code regarding telephonic video conference meeting attendance.

1230
01:13:44,310 --> 01:13:45,410
This is the second reading.

1231
01:13:45,870 --> 01:13:46,870
Make a motion to approve.

1232
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:47,470
I'll second.

1233
01:13:47,710 --> 01:13:50,630
Motion by Alderperson Carpenter, second by Alderperson Conniger.

1234
01:13:50,970 --> 01:13:52,150
Any discussion or comments?

1235
01:13:53,470 --> 01:13:54,290
Alderperson Resch?

1236
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:54,570
Yep.

1237
01:13:55,470 --> 01:14:00,690
I mean, as I stated last time too, I think that I understand what the attempt is that we're doing here

1238
01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:06,110
and I'm hoping that we don't have to use this regular, continuous basis,

1239
01:14:06,110 --> 01:14:10,910
But I think it's important that as elected officials that were present in person for these meetings

1240
01:14:11,670 --> 01:14:18,610
So for that reason with this change, I won't support it. So I'll be voting nay. Thank you. Other questions or comments

1241
01:14:20,530 --> 01:14:28,470
Seem there is none all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay motion carries with other person rash voting nay

1242
01:14:29,150 --> 01:14:30,250
item 21

1243
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:37,270
Resolution 2365 an initial resolution authorizing the sale and issuance of taxable general

1244
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:40,810
Obligation, promissory notes, and certain related details.

1245
01:14:42,110 --> 01:14:43,310
Make a motion to approve.

1246
01:14:43,650 --> 01:14:44,130
I'll second.

1247
01:14:44,410 --> 01:14:45,530
Motion by Alderperson Rash.

1248
01:14:45,770 --> 01:14:47,250
Second by Alderperson Ledmanna.

1249
01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:48,590
Any discussion or comments?

1250
01:14:50,910 --> 01:14:53,310
Seeing there is none, roll call vote please.

1251
01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:54,670
Alderperson Conegger?

1252
01:14:55,010 --> 01:14:55,170
Aye.

1253
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:55,910
Ledmanna?

1254
01:14:56,110 --> 01:14:56,250
Aye.

1255
01:14:56,590 --> 01:14:57,010
Pirok?

1256
01:14:57,130 --> 01:14:57,290
Aye.

1257
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:57,910
Wigley?

1258
01:14:58,210 --> 01:14:58,450
Aye.

1259
01:14:58,770 --> 01:14:58,990
Rash?

1260
01:14:59,290 --> 01:14:59,510
Aye.

1261
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,340
Carpenter?

1262
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:00,720
Aye.

1263
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:01,300
Gamps?

1264
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:01,940
Aye.

1265
01:15:02,260 --> 01:15:02,580
Hanson?

1266
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:02,980
Aye.

1267
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:04,040
Motion carries.

1268
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:04,580
Thank you.

1269
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:11,280
Item 22, resolution 2366, an initial resolution authorizing the sale and issuance of general

1270
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,600
obligation, promissory notes, and certain related details.

1271
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,760
Motion approved.

1272
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:16,320
Second.

1273
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,120
Motion by Alderperson Carpenter, seconded by Alderperson.

1274
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:22,680
He's pointing.

1275
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:23,360
He's going to give it up.

1276
01:15:23,700 --> 01:15:23,880
Ledvin?

1277
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:26,380
Any comments or discussion?

1278
01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:50,660
Motion carries thank you item 23 resolution 2367 approving ATM event placement agreement with cornerstone processing solutions.

1279
01:15:51,460 --> 01:15:53,020
I make a motion to approve.

1280
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:54,860
Second.

1281
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,340
Motion by Alderperson Gantz, seconded by Alderperson Pee Rock.

1282
01:15:58,540 --> 01:15:59,560
Any discussion or comments?

1283
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:03,110
Alderperson Carpenter.

1284
01:16:03,610 --> 01:16:05,070
Yes, is this going to be used at all?

1285
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:07,670
I have not stated in there for the beer garden.

1286
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:10,870
Is it going to be used for like the boot truck rally and different other things?

1287
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:14,930
Or what events is it all going to be set in the beer garden?

1288
01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:24,040
at this time our involvement with Fox community's credit union who's it is

1289
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,740
for only the beer garden okay I thought that read that in yeah and I didn't know

1290
01:16:28,740 --> 01:16:32,620
if it was for other events okay thank you thank you other questions or

1291
01:16:32,620 --> 01:16:40,790
comments roll call vote please older person P Rock I quickly I rash I

1292
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:41,630
Carpenter?

1293
01:16:41,850 --> 01:16:42,030
Aye.

1294
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:42,850
Gantz?

1295
01:16:42,970 --> 01:16:43,210
Aye.

1296
01:16:43,590 --> 01:16:43,990
Hanson?

1297
01:16:44,170 --> 01:16:44,330
Aye.

1298
01:16:44,730 --> 01:16:45,110
Conninger?

1299
01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:45,550
Aye.

1300
01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:46,090
Ledvina?

1301
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:46,550
Aye.

1302
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:48,130
Motion carries.

1303
01:16:48,330 --> 01:16:48,630
Thank you.

1304
01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:51,570
Item 24, Resolution 2368.

1305
01:16:51,670 --> 01:16:57,770
Amending Sections 3, 4, 6, 7, and 10 of the City of Depear Employee Policy Manual.

1306
01:16:58,530 --> 01:16:59,250
Move to approve.

1307
01:16:59,970 --> 01:17:00,650
I'll second.

1308
01:17:00,990 --> 01:17:03,930
Motion by Alderperson Ledvina, seconded by Alderperson Quigley.

1309
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:05,390
Any discussion or comments?

1310
01:17:07,820 --> 01:17:10,660
Seeing there is none, all those in favor say aye.

1311
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Aye.

1312
01:17:12,140 --> 01:17:24,940
Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item 25, Resolution 2369, authorize an agreement between the City of Depeer and McGrath Human Resources Group Job Description Update.

1313
01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:26,280
I'll move to approve.

1314
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:32,340
Motion by Elder Person Conniger. Second by Elder Person Gantz. Any discussion or comments?

1315
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,140
Alderperson Carpenter.

1316
01:17:34,540 --> 01:17:37,480
Yes, I was wondering how we came up with the 50 documents.

1317
01:17:37,980 --> 01:17:42,380
Do you already have projected them already out of all the job applicants?

1318
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,740
These are the number of positions that we have. Different positions within the city.

1319
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,860
Okay. That's my question. Okay, thank you.

1320
01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:52,700
Thank you. Other questions or comments?

1321
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,580
Seeing there is none, roll call vote please.

1322
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:58,880
Alderperson Quigley.

1323
01:17:59,320 --> 01:17:59,600
Aye.

1324
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:00,240
Brash.

1325
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:00,640
Aye.

1326
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:01,540
Carpenter.

1327
01:18:01,540 --> 01:18:07,500
Hi dance. Hi Hansen. Hi Conniger. Hi Ludvina. Hi P Rock. Hi

1328
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:10,320
Motion carries. Thank you

1329
01:18:11,060 --> 01:18:11,900
Thanks Shannon

1330
01:18:12,740 --> 01:18:15,860
We're up to 26 resolution 2370

1331
01:18:16,460 --> 01:18:21,120
Authorizing street name changes and naming the southern bridge Arthur J. Altmeyer bridge

1332
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,180
Which will be placed on so then we're going to talk about Southbridge Road Redmipper Road and Rockland Road

1333
01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:28,680
Which we're going to hopefully come up with the name right now

1334
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,000
Should we vote on this altogether as one or vote for Alter J. Altmire separate?

1335
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,480
I'll go to the city attorney in this one.

1336
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,160
Yeah, I would say recommend separate.

1337
01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:42,400
All right. Let's just tackle them separately. So on the floor right now,

1338
01:18:42,460 --> 01:18:46,180
we have naming of Arthur J. Altmire bridge just for a note.

1339
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,120
It is going to come out as a recommendation from us,

1340
01:18:49,140 --> 01:18:51,400
but we feel strongly about that just so everyone's aware of that.

1341
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:57,100
I'll make a motion to approve Alter J. Altmire bridge for the naming of the Southern Bridge.

1342
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:57,760
Second.

1343
01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:03,820
Motion by Elder Person Rash, second by Elder Person Hansen to name as a recommendation strongly,

1344
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,120
Arthur J. Altmaier Bridge.

1345
01:19:05,860 --> 01:19:06,900
Any discussion or comments?

1346
01:19:08,740 --> 01:19:09,240
Yeah.

1347
01:19:09,500 --> 01:19:09,820
What's that?

1348
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,620
Okay, so for people out there why we are picking this, Arthur J. Altmaier, it was a former

1349
01:19:17,620 --> 01:19:23,500
DPR resident who graduated from DPR High School in I believe 1910, went on to Madison,

1350
01:19:23,500 --> 01:19:29,760
and eventually became the architect of the Social Security as we know it today.

1351
01:19:30,460 --> 01:19:35,900
And Franklin Roosevelt, President Roosevelt, commented that he was known as Mr. Social Security,

1352
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:42,060
became the first director of the Social Security Board and also eventually the Social Security

1353
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:47,280
Administration upon his retirement in 1954, this is all by memory, and eventually because

1354
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:52,180
he was so influential for Social Security, the Social Security Administration building

1355
01:19:52,180 --> 01:19:55,880
in Baltimore, Maryland, bears Arthur J. Altmire's name.

1356
01:19:56,460 --> 01:20:00,420
So extremely famous deep-ear resident that is worthy of this honor.

1357
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:02,140
How was that?

1358
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,080
Very good.

1359
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:06,400
And because you're going to ask, first cousin is Susie Altmire.

1360
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:08,400
They both have different spellings, the last name.

1361
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,980
So when the families came over for whatever reason, one kept one spelling, the other

1362
01:20:12,980 --> 01:20:13,800
one changed the spelling.

1363
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:14,900
So yes, they're related.

1364
01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:20,600
Other questions or comments or any historical factual information you might want?

1365
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,080
That's really all I have right now

1366
01:20:22,940 --> 01:20:24,400
All right, that said

1367
01:20:25,020 --> 01:20:28,680
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

1368
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:34,000
Motion carries. Thank you. We have a bridge name that we're hoping sticks

1369
01:20:34,740 --> 01:20:37,360
All right now. Let's get down to the fun

1370
01:20:37,860 --> 01:20:42,140
We need a as a recommendation to forward on this one is actually more

1371
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:48,980
Has more significance, right? I mean that we have to name this thing based on the DOT well DOT is asking

1372
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,120
DOT is asking our Public Works Department to recommend a name.

1373
01:20:54,860 --> 01:20:58,160
Again, it's working with the county roads, so we have to have this go through the county

1374
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,380
so that they can start prepping all their designs for signage and things.

1375
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,340
So that's what they're looking for. That's a big deal. Big, big deal.

1376
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,600
So what I'll do now, this is kind of new to all of us. I thought I would just kind of open this up

1377
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:14,220
kind of like we were voting for stuff within the council and just maybe have you guys offer

1378
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,460
recommendations. Does that sound good enough? And we'll just go from there.

1379
01:21:17,460 --> 01:21:18,940
and you can kind of make a plug.

1380
01:21:19,480 --> 01:21:22,940
All the person who asked, do you have something that interested you?

1381
01:21:23,660 --> 01:21:23,700
I do.

1382
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:23,980
I do.

1383
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,220
So having had a chance to look at this, that Plan Commission the first time,

1384
01:21:28,980 --> 01:21:34,660
I'm not going to say as emphatically as I did during that meeting

1385
01:21:34,660 --> 01:21:38,280
my thoughts on the first name that was thrown out there.

1386
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:39,040
Oh, we'll leave that one alone.

1387
01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:39,480
Yeah.

1388
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,180
But anyway, in the conversation that happened in Plan Commission,

1389
01:21:43,300 --> 01:21:44,420
it was actually a good conversation.

1390
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,940
They talked about Arthur J. Altmaier being more of a historical figure

1391
01:21:48,940 --> 01:21:53,300
and kind of sticking with the history type of scenario as it came to naming the bridge.

1392
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:57,480
And then they were looking at something that maybe spoke more to the future.

1393
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,340
And we talked about history.

1394
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:06,540
One of the things I suggested is maybe that we find a way to pay homage

1395
01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:10,940
to the people that lived in this area for thousands of years before it was settled

1396
01:22:10,940 --> 01:22:12,980
and that would have been the Menominee Nation.

1397
01:22:12,980 --> 01:22:26,460
So the Menominee Nation actually occupied this area of Depeer and Green Bay for 10,000 plus years before the French actually moved in and worked and lived with them.

1398
01:22:27,060 --> 01:22:38,540
But this area of Depeer and Green Bay in doing some research with the Menominee people was actually referred to as chiefs villages because a lot of the chiefs of the Menominee Nation actually resided in here along the rivers.

1399
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:46,500
So, in talking with some members of the Menominee tribe over the past several weeks and trying

1400
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:51,300
to figure out some ideas that might work for a name that kind of signifies and recognizes

1401
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:54,860
them being here, the history side of it, and also something that speaks towards the future,

1402
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,380
one of the names that popped up was Generations Avenue.

1403
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,700
So the original name that was put up by the city, which we're not going to bring up,

1404
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,620
wanted to think of something that looked towards the future and some positives.

1405
01:23:07,620 --> 01:23:12,200
And I think one of the things that's important to make that connection back, not only just

1406
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,960
in Native people, but to the Menominee Nation as well as all those that are in this area,

1407
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:25,520
is understanding that as Native Americans, we like to make decisions and think about

1408
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,720
things that impact the next seven generations that come behind us.

1409
01:23:29,180 --> 01:23:33,220
So for those that don't know, I'm a proud member of the Stockbridge Muncie tribe,

1410
01:23:33,220 --> 01:23:35,920
abandoned Mohicans over in the central part of Wisconsin.

1411
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,340
And part of that teaching that comes to us

1412
01:23:39,340 --> 01:23:42,120
is that thinking for the future and anything we do today

1413
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,200
affects and impacts the next seven generations.

1414
01:23:45,700 --> 01:23:48,740
So in those talkings and making that connection back to history

1415
01:23:48,740 --> 01:23:51,040
as well as the future, I think Generations Avenue,

1416
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,780
in my mind, fits very well with kind of the theme

1417
01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:58,240
of what we started here with Arthur J. Altmire,

1418
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,700
but it has a bigger impact on our communities as a whole

1419
01:24:00,700 --> 01:24:06,520
and how we want to do things as a city council and as a community that actually impact positively

1420
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,720
the next seven generations.

1421
01:24:07,900 --> 01:24:11,880
And I know that we have a developer sitting here as well, and when they put projects together,

1422
01:24:11,980 --> 01:24:15,940
they're thinking how is this going to impact probably the next 20, 25, 30, 40 years?

1423
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,280
And I think it's the same thing that we do here.

1424
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:24,240
So I think my name that I'm throwing out is Generations Avenue for those reasons

1425
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,860
to tie that back to a bigger picture here.

1426
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:28,520
Thank you very much.

1427
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:29,560
Good explanation.

1428
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,840
Any other names you want to toss out there, folks, for consideration?

1429
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:34,740
I have a few.

1430
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:36,020
All the person cutting her?

1431
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:43,000
Yeah, kind of in the same vein as Dean mentioned, but with a little different thought process.

1432
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,080
So thinking about, you know, all the decades of planning that have gone into this,

1433
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:52,740
as well as being significant of bringing greater unity to the area,

1434
01:24:52,740 --> 01:24:57,920
how much more travel and supply chain can be exercised

1435
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,580
throughout the reason and throughout the state.

1436
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,100
I mean, it's a project that is really astronomical

1437
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:03,220
when you think about it.

1438
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,660
So I looked at words that were both synonymous

1439
01:25:07,660 --> 01:25:10,240
with that development, what the pier stands for,

1440
01:25:10,340 --> 01:25:12,640
as well as the river itself

1441
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,300
and what it signifies in crossing.

1442
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,620
So just playing with some ideas,

1443
01:25:16,900 --> 01:25:20,180
three words came to mind, coalesce.

1444
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:23,980
Co means together, a less means to grow.

1445
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,540
So the definition is to unite as a whole

1446
01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:33,560
the combination of distinct elements to grow together to unite for a common end,

1447
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,180
join forces, when similar parts become a cohesive unit.

1448
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:42,840
So that is really symbolic of what this development is doing.

1449
01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:50,060
Another opportunity or thought process was around, it's a little more long,

1450
01:25:50,180 --> 01:25:52,520
but it's fun to say, amalgamite.

1451
01:25:53,980 --> 01:25:56,200
But it's really easy to spell.

1452
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:01,480
So, it's an action of process of uniting two things, but here's the fun part about it.

1453
01:26:01,660 --> 01:26:06,360
It's forming a close union without loss of individual identities.

1454
01:26:06,820 --> 01:26:13,340
And I don't know about a town that is so fiercely individual in their identities and

1455
01:26:13,340 --> 01:26:13,720
a whole.

1456
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:16,400
So, I thought that would be kind of fun to play around with.

1457
01:26:16,860 --> 01:26:23,080
And then the last one is more of a lean to the actual development of a river itself,

1458
01:26:23,480 --> 01:26:24,220
but riparian.

1459
01:26:24,220 --> 01:26:36,180
So, raperion is related to the situation of living and locating and dwelling on the banks of a river in a natural water course of a river.

1460
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:42,640
So, it's the ecology and the diversity and contributing to the health of a greater ecosystem.

1461
01:26:42,940 --> 01:26:51,120
So, raperion is both a nod to the river as well as what we're trying to do with the ecosystem of our whole area.

1462
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:59,040
So those were three words that, not everyday street names, but they could be applied with real dual meaning.

1463
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,040
All right, thank you.

1464
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,680
Going next, I think all the person, Hanson, do you have your hand up?

1465
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:10,000
Yeah. I like Generations Drive. I like some of those, Amy.

1466
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:17,200
I still think Southbridge Road is the most direct and easy to understand and recognize.

1467
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:23,200
very nice and very not creative but very practical. So I want to throw Southbridge Road out there

1468
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:29,480
and it's already part of this segment. I know Plan Commission also talked about maybe looking

1469
01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:35,960
at some of the Menominee language. I was looking at NICOT which is one in Menominee. Again,

1470
01:27:36,020 --> 01:27:39,720
kind of going to Amy's thing about unity. I like the idea of kind of having some connection

1471
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,520
to unity and tying the two sides together. So.

1472
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,500
Thank you. Do we have others?

1473
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,420
All the person live? No.

1474
01:27:48,620 --> 01:27:55,840
I didn't really have one specifically, but I know your aim when you were working on this at staff was to come up with the word that meant

1475
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,680
progress or moving forward.

1476
01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:04,800
And I just think that this bridge taking generations to build, I mean, it really has.

1477
01:28:06,180 --> 01:28:10,900
It's really come down to this collaboration of local units of government and the state

1478
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:14,140
and interested groups to get us to this point.

1479
01:28:14,260 --> 01:28:19,560
So I just like the idea of naming it for something along the lines of that, you know,

1480
01:28:19,620 --> 01:28:24,480
that collaborate, recognizing that collaboration or that working together to get to where we

1481
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:24,820
are now.

1482
01:28:25,180 --> 01:28:26,620
But I didn't really come up with any names.

1483
01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:29,760
I like to coalesce.

1484
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,080
I don't know.

1485
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:32,120
Yeah.

1486
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:33,260
Thank you.

1487
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:33,820
Good comments.

1488
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:36,320
Alderperson Rash, first.

1489
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:37,460
Alderperson.

1490
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:43,640
So when I talked to the Menominee, they had a name that they were interested in, possibly

1491
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:48,700
tossing out there because they went Chawanon, which was actually the name of their first

1492
01:28:49,340 --> 01:28:51,540
grand chief that lived in this area.

1493
01:28:51,700 --> 01:28:55,980
So that was the name that they recommended from the Menominee Nation if we would go

1494
01:28:55,980 --> 01:29:00,280
with the native name, which is maybe a little bit tougher to kind of do.

1495
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:04,520
but from their historical group, from their museum group,

1496
01:29:04,620 --> 01:29:05,760
and from some of their leadership,

1497
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,560
that was the name they had tossed out,

1498
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,420
which was the name of their first Grand Chief in this area.

1499
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,740
I think I'll get one vote, okay?

1500
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,720
Okay, what else do we have?

1501
01:29:16,940 --> 01:29:17,540
Alderperson Hansen.

1502
01:29:17,580 --> 01:29:19,700
I wanted to ask, Dan, do you recommend

1503
01:29:19,700 --> 01:29:21,540
AV or drive for the street?

1504
01:29:23,020 --> 01:29:27,260
It really comes down to the overall makeup of the street.

1505
01:29:27,860 --> 01:29:30,400
Either one would suffice, and we've seen

1506
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,900
renderings a few different ways that includes a boulevard that offers that opportunity, that

1507
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:40,840
potentially is a discussion point, but to me when you have a dividing line like you have

1508
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,820
on the GV corridor, that's when you call it something like that one.

1509
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:49,420
But if it's not going to be that, Driver Avenue has equal weight in terms of a suffix for

1510
01:29:49,420 --> 01:29:49,900
a street name.

1511
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:52,680
Okay.

1512
01:29:53,420 --> 01:29:55,700
Let's not go down that road right now.

1513
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:56,960
Yes, pun intended.

1514
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:58,760
Do we have anything else?

1515
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,880
other person can'ts

1516
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,920
I just kind of like unity.

1517
01:30:03,380 --> 01:30:05,020
You're just tossing unity out there, okay?

1518
01:30:05,180 --> 01:30:05,300
Yeah.

1519
01:30:05,660 --> 01:30:06,540
Throw that baby on there.

1520
01:30:06,580 --> 01:30:14,230
Just like unit by joined as a whole, all of the different cities, townships.

1521
01:30:15,230 --> 01:30:15,890
Thank you.

1522
01:30:17,150 --> 01:30:20,130
So imagine we would say why, how many names you'd have right now.

1523
01:30:20,610 --> 01:30:21,970
Let's do a thousand, probably.

1524
01:30:22,230 --> 01:30:23,550
I can't just play baseball over there.

1525
01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:24,550
Anyone else have a comment?

1526
01:30:24,710 --> 01:30:27,090
In addition, another name.

1527
01:30:27,630 --> 01:30:28,770
I think flamingo.

1528
01:30:29,710 --> 01:30:33,850
I think we're ready to roll so I think what we'll probably do is we have I'll

1529
01:30:33,850 --> 01:30:39,050
say him again and I'm not gonna say Avenue or Rotable Generations, Col S,

1530
01:30:41,810 --> 01:30:48,930
Amalgamite, Repairion, yep, Southbridge Road and Unity. I don't know if the

1531
01:30:48,930 --> 01:30:52,050
one was actually off your seat, I don't know if I said, so not, Necott?

1532
01:30:53,010 --> 01:30:54,970
Yeah, Necott. Necott, okay, Necott.

1533
01:31:00,670 --> 01:31:04,390
Necott? I'm sorry, Stella? N-E-K-O-T. Okay.

1534
01:31:05,390 --> 01:31:08,790
Okay, so those are the ones we have, so what we're thinking of doing is we'll just go down the list here

1535
01:31:08,790 --> 01:31:11,810
and you get one vote per, just raise your hand if you like, is that how we're gonna do it?

1536
01:31:12,250 --> 01:31:16,310
Will we get a resolution? Well, if we go one per and...

1537
01:31:18,910 --> 01:31:20,530
I want to see you spell them.

1538
01:31:20,770 --> 01:31:22,250
I'm not going to spell them, so thank you.

1539
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:22,970
That one I can spell.

1540
01:31:23,950 --> 01:31:24,310
Generations.

1541
01:31:24,610 --> 01:31:25,070
Oh, yeah.

1542
01:31:25,170 --> 01:31:25,790
I think that's important.

1543
01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:27,690
Col S.

1544
01:31:29,390 --> 01:31:33,550
I think it's C-O-A-R-E-S-C-E, but I'm not 100% sure, but that was correct.

1545
01:31:33,850 --> 01:31:34,390
I did it.

1546
01:31:34,630 --> 01:31:37,070
That was a spelling champ back in seventh grade, but I never heard that word.

1547
01:31:37,190 --> 01:31:37,610
What was it again?

1548
01:31:39,410 --> 01:31:39,770
Amalgamite.

1549
01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:40,250
There we go.

1550
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:40,710
Pastel.

1551
01:31:41,570 --> 01:31:41,930
Amalgamite.

1552
01:31:45,550 --> 01:31:45,910
Reparian.

1553
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:48,510
R-I-P-A-R-I-N.

1554
01:31:48,510 --> 01:31:50,630
one. We looked it up on Google.

1555
01:31:53,650 --> 01:32:00,490
Southbridge. We've got that one down. Necott, N-E-K-O-T,

1556
01:32:00,910 --> 01:32:07,850
was just said, and now just thrown in the mix. Unity. U-N-I-T-Y. Unity. Just like you're

1557
01:32:07,850 --> 01:32:13,930
in a spelling bee. So go down the list and then you get one vote per. I don't know.

1558
01:32:13,930 --> 01:32:17,150
Yeah, and then kind of I always have multiple ballots for you. Yeah

1559
01:32:18,430 --> 01:32:20,950
So I'll just start from the top with the first one. So

1560
01:32:21,570 --> 01:32:23,070
If you all have interest in

1561
01:32:23,850 --> 01:32:28,030
Generations raise your hand for that one. So we can only vote for one though. Yeah, yeah

1562
01:32:29,730 --> 01:32:33,990
I've got one two three four for generations

1563
01:32:35,050 --> 01:32:35,770
Thank you

1564
01:32:36,750 --> 01:32:40,710
Cole s I have one two

1565
01:32:42,690 --> 01:32:44,810
Done. Generations it is. You can't beat it up for that.

1566
01:32:46,290 --> 01:32:47,990
I want to say these names again.

1567
01:32:48,410 --> 01:32:52,230
I want you to spell them first without Larry's help.

1568
01:32:52,730 --> 01:32:58,050
And by the way, so the residents and councilors stand, we did have a time crunch in doing this.

1569
01:32:58,110 --> 01:33:00,430
We didn't have a pile of time to do this, to come up with the name.

1570
01:33:00,550 --> 01:33:02,190
So that's kind of why we are where we are right now.

1571
01:33:02,530 --> 01:33:05,270
So we thought we'd finish this at plan commission. Of course that didn't work.

1572
01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:09,870
Optimistic, by the way, I believe was the name of the road, which wasn't horribly wrong.

1573
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:12,050
But I'll toss it out there.

1574
01:33:12,230 --> 01:33:12,830
Not horribly bad?

1575
01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:14,530
We were coming up with all kinds of things.

1576
01:33:14,590 --> 01:33:15,750
We had a look at 60.

1577
01:33:15,950 --> 01:33:20,110
Just so you know, Larry, James threw you under the bus with that name.

1578
01:33:21,210 --> 01:33:22,550
You didn't come up with anything better.

1579
01:33:24,330 --> 01:33:25,690
Dan would have done the same thing.

1580
01:33:26,270 --> 01:33:29,350
So we were under kind of a time crunch, so now I do believe we're going to meet that.

1581
01:33:29,850 --> 01:33:33,330
And we'll just forward this as obviously a strong recommendation from the Common

1582
01:33:33,330 --> 01:33:33,650
Council.

1583
01:33:34,170 --> 01:33:35,690
Shouldn't we keep going for the record?

1584
01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:37,450
Okay, we'll keep going for the record.

1585
01:33:37,450 --> 01:33:38,710
We're going to bake this meat in the oven.

1586
01:33:38,710 --> 01:33:39,810
Very duly noted.

1587
01:33:41,970 --> 01:33:42,370
Amalgamite.

1588
01:33:43,070 --> 01:33:43,470
Amalgamite.

1589
01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:44,390
Amalgamite.

1590
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:45,350
Amalgamite.

1591
01:33:46,430 --> 01:33:46,830
Reparian.

1592
01:33:48,110 --> 01:33:49,290
Which by the way, I really did kind of like.

1593
01:33:50,330 --> 01:33:50,730
Southbridge.

1594
01:33:51,990 --> 01:33:52,670
There you go.

1595
01:33:52,990 --> 01:33:53,510
I got it.

1596
01:33:53,690 --> 01:33:54,370
I got it recorded.

1597
01:33:54,750 --> 01:33:54,830
Yeah.

1598
01:33:55,870 --> 01:33:56,270
Nikat.

1599
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:57,430
Nikat.

1600
01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:58,450
I can give you that.

1601
01:33:58,450 --> 01:33:59,390
And then Unity.

1602
01:33:59,630 --> 01:34:00,290
Give that one a second.

1603
01:34:01,730 --> 01:34:02,530
Why not?

1604
01:34:02,970 --> 01:34:03,770
That gives us the right number.

1605
01:34:03,810 --> 01:34:04,190
What?

1606
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:04,730
All right.

1607
01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:05,530
It works.

1608
01:34:05,530 --> 01:34:11,550
works. So that said, we have that as a final, so do we need a motion and a second for that?

1609
01:34:11,690 --> 01:34:13,830
We need a motion and a second, and then we'll vote on that one.

1610
01:34:14,350 --> 01:34:17,250
But before we do that, shouldn't we go down the list to figure out if it's going to be

1611
01:34:17,250 --> 01:34:19,190
Avenue, Road, Street, Boulevard?

1612
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:21,050
And he's shaking his head right now.

1613
01:34:21,290 --> 01:34:22,790
The answer is 100 percent no.

1614
01:34:23,250 --> 01:34:23,570
So we're doing that right now.

1615
01:34:23,570 --> 01:34:29,150
However, as Larry would say, noted. So we'll need a motion and a second for generations.

1616
01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:34,950
I'll make a motion to name the new road generations something.

1617
01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:42,830
motion by Alderperson Rash, second by Alderperson Lebanon for the new road to be named Generations.

1618
01:34:42,850 --> 01:34:48,730
Any to recommend the name of the new road Generations? Any additional comments or discussion?

1619
01:34:50,210 --> 01:34:51,970
Where does it come from there then?

1620
01:34:52,290 --> 01:34:55,410
County, county, county. And we'll give you a final answer.

1621
01:34:56,290 --> 01:35:00,330
Are we worried that anyone's going to think we're being snarky by naming it Generations?

1622
01:35:00,930 --> 01:35:02,410
We quite honestly don't care.

1623
01:35:03,490 --> 01:35:08,530
Considering the fact that the conversation for this bridge started in the summer of 1967.

1624
01:35:09,330 --> 01:35:10,110
That's what I was saying.

1625
01:35:10,630 --> 01:35:11,010
That's fine.

1626
01:35:11,550 --> 01:35:12,810
Yeah, we're just there.

1627
01:35:12,930 --> 01:35:13,230
Okay, everybody?

1628
01:35:13,670 --> 01:35:13,910
Okay.

1629
01:35:13,990 --> 01:35:15,950
So the bridge will be done next year then once we have this finished.

1630
01:35:16,090 --> 01:35:16,770
So good job, everybody.

1631
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:17,630
Yeah.

1632
01:35:18,850 --> 01:35:20,670
I'm sure if you didn't put that out there.

1633
01:35:21,130 --> 01:35:21,250
Yeah.

1634
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:22,410
Hopefully they grab on it.

1635
01:35:22,510 --> 01:35:23,010
It's fine by me.

1636
01:35:23,450 --> 01:35:25,110
And then fully paid by everyone except us.

1637
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:26,190
That's sad.

1638
01:35:26,850 --> 01:35:31,490
All those in favor, this again is for the street name, say, I.

1639
01:35:31,490 --> 01:35:31,970
Aye.

1640
01:35:33,110 --> 01:35:33,630
Opposed?

1641
01:35:34,770 --> 01:35:35,590
Motion carries.

1642
01:35:35,690 --> 01:35:36,230
Thank you.

1643
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:38,070
We have a bridge name and we have a street name.

1644
01:35:38,170 --> 01:35:39,110
Congratulations everybody.

1645
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:40,850
You are part of history.

1646
01:35:41,290 --> 01:35:42,690
That took a long time to get to.

1647
01:35:44,110 --> 01:35:45,030
Including tonight.

1648
01:35:45,390 --> 01:35:46,290
Item 27.

1649
01:35:47,750 --> 01:35:50,690
Resolution 2371, authorizing facility rental agreement

1650
01:35:50,690 --> 01:35:53,550
between the city of Depeer and the Depeer Unified School

1651
01:35:53,550 --> 01:35:54,570
District of Depeer.

1652
01:35:55,390 --> 01:35:56,110
We approve.

1653
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:57,370
I'll second.

1654
01:35:57,890 --> 01:35:59,770
Motion by all the person Hanson, second by all the

1655
01:35:59,770 --> 01:36:06,250
person rash any discussion or comments seeing there is none all those in favor

1656
01:36:06,250 --> 01:36:14,910
roll call vote please all the person rash I carpenter dance I Hanson I Cunninger

1657
01:36:14,910 --> 01:36:21,950
Lebanon I P Rock I quickly I motion carries thank you item 28 appointment to

1658
01:36:21,950 --> 01:36:27,490
historic preservation Commission by Mayor Boyd would approve second motion

1659
01:36:27,490 --> 01:36:31,330
milder person Hanson second by all the person Lebanon any discussion or

1660
01:36:31,330 --> 01:36:36,650
comments. Thank you to Jane Shuler for offering to serve. That said, all those

1661
01:36:36,650 --> 01:36:46,550
in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item 29, voucher approval. Move

1662
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:50,330
to approve. Second. Motion by all the person quickly, seconded by all the

1663
01:36:50,330 --> 01:36:56,630
person led by now. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

1664
01:36:56,630 --> 01:37:01,150
Thank you. Item 30. Future agenda items. Does anyone have anything?

1665
01:37:02,270 --> 01:37:03,310
Alderperson Hansen.

1666
01:37:03,850 --> 01:37:06,830
Yeah, so in the downtown we have a lot of...

1667
01:37:07,370 --> 01:37:10,730
We've been gradually replacing the decorative street lights with the new fixtures,

1668
01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:16,910
and from the beginning of North Broadway by Crow's Nest all the way to George Street,

1669
01:37:17,150 --> 01:37:18,890
they've been all replaced on the east side,

1670
01:37:18,930 --> 01:37:21,090
and now a lot of them on the west side have been replaced too.

1671
01:37:21,630 --> 01:37:23,370
But when we go south of George Street,

1672
01:37:23,370 --> 01:37:28,670
So, South Broadway from George Street to kind of where the Malva Center is, they're the old

1673
01:37:28,670 --> 01:37:28,890
lights.

1674
01:37:29,410 --> 01:37:35,290
And the reason why is because those old lights are serviced by WPS, whereas the ones north

1675
01:37:35,290 --> 01:37:37,370
of George Street are owned by the city.

1676
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:44,350
And WPS has not been willing to entertain the idea of replacing the fixtures to match

1677
01:37:44,350 --> 01:37:46,870
the rest of them, even if the city were to pay for it.

1678
01:37:47,310 --> 01:37:50,990
So, I just like a discussion at the board about how we might be able to proceed

1679
01:37:50,990 --> 01:37:53,490
with this to try to get the fixtures all looking the same.

1680
01:37:55,230 --> 01:37:56,670
Larry's on that. Thank you very much.

1681
01:37:57,330 --> 01:37:59,030
The Board of Public Works, as you said, is noted.

1682
01:37:59,370 --> 01:38:00,330
Should I just say noted? Yeah.

1683
01:38:01,010 --> 01:38:01,710
The Board of Public Works.

1684
01:38:02,790 --> 01:38:04,310
Other future agenda items?

1685
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,500
Okay, seeing there is none.

1686
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,880
We move to the closed session portion,

1687
01:38:11,380 --> 01:38:12,740
items 31 and 32.

1688
01:38:13,660 --> 01:38:15,000
We'll go with 31 first,

1689
01:38:15,220 --> 01:38:16,920
which doesn't have to be closed session,

1690
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,560
but we'll kick it off and go from there.

1691
01:38:19,340 --> 01:38:20,400
So item 31.

1692
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:28,620
I know I'm not going to I'm just reading item 31 consideration and possible action on proposed

1693
01:38:28,620 --> 01:38:35,960
development agreement terms with Depeer 230 development partners LLC for proposed redevelopment

1694
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,360
for the former shopco store in downtown Depeer Dan you're going to kick this off.

1695
01:38:45,020 --> 01:38:50,840
I'm going to take my time kind of pulling this up here and I'm just going to get back

1696
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:52,580
there plenty of time.

1697
01:38:52,580 --> 01:38:55,220
We've got at least three and a half hours before our latest meetings.

1698
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:55,780
There you go.

1699
01:38:56,860 --> 01:38:57,320
All right.

1700
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:02,080
So I'm going to go through probably, I would probably say, one of the most anticipated questions

1701
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:06,120
that you've probably been receiving over the past year as well as myself and others.

1702
01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:11,780
I'm going to go through a bit of an overview here, but also the current property owners

1703
01:39:11,780 --> 01:39:15,360
are also available for questions, but I'll try to go through as much of the overview

1704
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:15,920
as possible.

1705
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:20,020
I will say it was probably my most lengthy detailed memo I could probably provide.

1706
01:39:20,020 --> 01:39:24,900
So if you have any questions, I missed my target on providing all the details.

1707
01:39:25,300 --> 01:39:32,400
So what this proposal is going to be looking at is a combination of a mixed use development

1708
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,840
and redevelopment of the former SHOPCO facility in our downtown.

1709
01:39:36,420 --> 01:39:38,120
And I'm just trying to touch on the high points.

1710
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,140
There's so much detail that went into this analysis,

1711
01:39:40,220 --> 01:39:41,880
but I'll try to touch on the high points here.

1712
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,920
And to make this work, we're looking at the possible creation

1713
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,280
of three different tax increment districts

1714
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,820
to facilitate the creation of five private development sites and one public development

1715
01:39:51,820 --> 01:39:52,220
site.

1716
01:39:52,660 --> 01:39:56,720
Over a span of four to six years, but again, market realities are sort of the big driver

1717
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:57,580
piece of that one.

1718
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:05,760
About $60 million worth of new value to our downtown between about 80 to 85 million worth

1719
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:10,520
of total construction value, depending on the overall scope of the project and when

1720
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:11,440
things fall in line.

1721
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:16,220
We've asked the developer to provide as much detail as possible so we could have

1722
01:40:16,220 --> 01:40:18,980
a realistic conversation about what could be on the site.

1723
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,260
And I think it's important because what we want to be able to do today is kind of create

1724
01:40:23,260 --> 01:40:27,360
some general terms in which that development group can start to use as their baseline skeleton.

1725
01:40:27,980 --> 01:40:31,360
Because what we don't want is we don't want to come back every six months

1726
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,660
and with new terms and new terms and new terms as soft changes.

1727
01:40:34,780 --> 01:40:39,540
So what we're asking tonight is a recommendation from the council to discuss this.

1728
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,440
And the reason why it's a council here is normally this stage of a process would be

1729
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:47,640
the Finance and Personnel Committee, but because of its large impactful nature to our downtown,

1730
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:52,440
we felt that the council would likely be the one who'd want to have a discussion point about this

1731
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:56,900
one. So it's still a terms discussion here at this point, a little bit out of ordinary,

1732
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:02,180
but it's still a terms discussion with the end result of staff being able to work with the

1733
01:41:02,180 --> 01:41:06,780
development group on proposed development agreement and bring that back on an each

1734
01:41:06,780 --> 01:41:12,820
individual basis. So that's the overall impetus for tonight. So as we go through this here,

1735
01:41:12,820 --> 01:41:14,300
See if my mouth starts working here.

1736
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,000
Again, we're talking about the creation of three separate tax increment districts.

1737
01:41:18,260 --> 01:41:21,140
They would be blight elimination or rehab and conservation districts.

1738
01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:27,340
They have the same rules 27 years, but the overall important part of this one is we don't want to create one standard district

1739
01:41:27,980 --> 01:41:31,440
because then that clock starts to tick on every one of those buildings.

1740
01:41:31,740 --> 01:41:36,020
And so we lose the opportunity to use our leverage when it comes to tax incremental financing.

1741
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,640
So try to stagger out the creation of these districts as appropriate.

1742
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,640
We've kind of limited it to three buildings of what we thought made sense,

1743
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:48,220
but that is going to require some creative maneuvering when it comes to structuring those project plans

1744
01:41:48,220 --> 01:41:52,960
because a lot of the public expenditures will be happening inside of a first tax increment district,

1745
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,440
which means there will be a donor allocation district necessary of those remaining two

1746
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:01,080
to help pay off those municipal infrastructure costs during that time.

1747
01:42:01,900 --> 01:42:07,660
So with that one, we will have to work with the DOR to determine those various different elements,

1748
01:42:07,660 --> 01:42:10,520
but that's what we're talking about here today.

1749
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,980
Real quick, Dan, in the way that you're stating this,

1750
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,220
you're talking about having to layer districts on top of each other?

1751
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:21,660
No, we would create in separate districts that would be almost single-use or several-use districts.

1752
01:42:22,420 --> 01:42:23,480
They're not going to layer over.

1753
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:28,440
No, a puzzle piece is more or less how I like to kind of refer to them.

1754
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,360
So the overall scenario here, I think we all know the site.

1755
01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:33,620
I usually would put up a street view photos,

1756
01:42:33,620 --> 01:42:40,000
But I think we're all sort of aware of the sites are downtown former shop co-facility and the area of discussion tonight

1757
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:44,480
Is primarily around the existing building as well as the privately owned parking lot?

1758
01:42:45,820 --> 01:42:51,480
So I put up the renderings they're in your packet the proposed renderings are part of discussion here tonight

1759
01:42:51,480 --> 01:42:53,760
but again, they're meant to be enough of a

1760
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:00,060
Conceptual diagram to start moving us forward towards those conversations and I think as we get further along

1761
01:43:00,060 --> 01:43:04,940
I start labeling the buildings, but overall, think of the site as a mixed-use center both

1762
01:43:04,940 --> 01:43:10,920
horizontally and vertically, meaning we have vertical integration of uses and mix of uses

1763
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:15,340
going horizontally, meaning we have different types of buildings as we go along.

1764
01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:21,800
This iteration with the ownership group, we've been working with them for a while

1765
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,500
now on kind of finding the best fit from a scale and size standpoint.

1766
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,300
And so that's the reason why you're seeing the buildings as presented here.

1767
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,660
it's multiple buildings versus maybe one or two large buildings or three large

1768
01:43:32,660 --> 01:43:36,080
buildings and the reason for that is to break up massing and scaling and kind of

1769
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:40,040
create human scale as we work through. I think the plan commission made that

1770
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,500
point known especially when it came to our new zoning code again talking

1771
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:47,000
about massing and so the ownership group really took that to heart in this

1772
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:51,700
case. But it also includes a public parking component as well as a public

1773
01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:55,660
plaza component and so you see that public plaza that's behind that the

1774
01:43:55,660 --> 01:43:59,160
buildings. I want to mean public, meaning it's accessible to the public but would

1775
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:03,460
be privately owned, but the overall intent is for it to be a 360 degree

1776
01:44:03,460 --> 01:44:08,060
designed building so that people can use the building, plaza space, patio spaces,

1777
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,400
green spaces, and providing that that element of light to each one of those

1778
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:16,540
buildings as well. So massing for you. We'll go through each individual

1779
01:44:16,540 --> 01:44:20,860
building at a very high level, but in short range of building size from

1780
01:44:20,860 --> 01:44:24,960
two stories to five stories from the residential standpoint and six

1781
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:30,280
stories in some of the residentials and then a potential as illustrated on here as a hotel.

1782
01:44:30,940 --> 01:44:34,900
Again, the overall configuration can change as new projects come in but the overall goal

1783
01:44:34,900 --> 01:44:38,220
is to provide a mix of uses both horizontally and vertically.

1784
01:44:39,340 --> 01:44:41,100
Some conceptual renderings that were provided.

1785
01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:46,040
Again, it may not meet all of the code elements but overall just conceptually you can kind

1786
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:50,480
of see how it fits within the overall ramifications of the downtown.

1787
01:44:50,480 --> 01:44:55,820
town you can see the right now we're looking north on Wisconsin Street looking

1788
01:44:55,820 --> 01:44:59,400
north towards what would be the shop go parking lot at this point.

1789
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,620
Walsh Plaza is the water wall that you see right there, or the wind wall you see right there.

1790
01:45:06,580 --> 01:45:10,520
And again, looking at it from just a slightly different perspective, looking at the rear of the building,

1791
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:16,800
you can kind of see how that, again, the public space sort of wraps the building, the public kind of quasi-public private space.

1792
01:45:17,420 --> 01:45:22,960
And again, just some representative images or sample images to get character and feel for what the development group is looking for.

1793
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:24,520
Those are in your packet.

1794
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,140
So the concept proposal, I'm going to go through them here.

1795
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,880
Again, I put the letters on there for a little bit bolder scale here.

1796
01:45:33,460 --> 01:45:38,220
But building A, six stories with first two stories being retail and commercial space.

1797
01:45:38,420 --> 01:45:40,000
You can see the details. I won't go through them all.

1798
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,300
And then three to six floors being market rate residential.

1799
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:46,740
Building B would be a two stories.

1800
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,520
Again, trying to bring that scale back down to kind of break up that height

1801
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:54,360
would be an office and retail commercial component building first and second floor.

1802
01:45:54,780 --> 01:46:00,300
Building C on Broadway, you're looking at that currently positioned as a potential hotel user

1803
01:46:01,060 --> 01:46:07,920
with first floor, typical hotel uses on that first floor with second and seventh floors being included in that one.

1804
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:13,120
It's modeled just right now as is, but again, a hotel operator is going to come in with their own brand,

1805
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,460
their own feel and their own components.

1806
01:46:15,460 --> 01:46:20,340
So, again, it's just modeled that way now to provide some conceptual feel.

1807
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,780
Underground parking, above ground parking, those are all things that have to be discussed

1808
01:46:24,780 --> 01:46:28,180
during when that hotel operator starts to provide interest.

1809
01:46:29,420 --> 01:46:33,340
As we continue to move forward, oh, this one had more transitions in it.

1810
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:38,180
Building D is a mix of, again, retail and residential, but primarily being retail and

1811
01:46:38,180 --> 01:46:41,140
office on those first two floors and commercial.

1812
01:46:41,140 --> 01:46:48,340
The third and fourth fifth, maybe sixth floor, depending on how the building is configured is 20 units of condominium development.

1813
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,220
So again, now we're changing rental rates with condominium rates as well.

1814
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:54,800
So we have two different, again, types of residential styles.

1815
01:46:55,640 --> 01:47:00,300
And building F that you see on there is four stories, again with first floor retail commercial opportunities,

1816
01:47:00,460 --> 01:47:01,980
and then residential 60 units there.

1817
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,920
Building E that you see there is proposed to be a public parking structure.

1818
01:47:06,140 --> 01:47:09,920
I think we've all heard the parking in our downtown needs to be fixed and needs to be corrected.

1819
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:14,380
I don't think I go a week without hearing that, but as part of it, we're talking a little bit about that.

1820
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:23,200
So, in this case, that's when we, as a council, you guys authored Walker to go and understand this impact to the parking calculations,

1821
01:47:23,340 --> 01:47:25,060
and I did include that in the memo as well.

1822
01:47:26,420 --> 01:47:30,080
Public investment proposals, as you can see, are on there about public infrastructure.

1823
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:35,880
So, there's several street reconstructions and right-of-ways, some acquisitions as proposed in those general terms.

1824
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,540
that includes ownerships and purchasing of right-of-ways purchasing of the

1825
01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:44,780
parking structure land and then development of those public facilities as

1826
01:47:44,780 --> 01:47:49,780
well. So I won't go through too much of those. In the packet you saw that we took

1827
01:47:49,780 --> 01:47:54,280
a high-level view as much as we could with as much detail as we could for

1828
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:58,580
those evaluations of each project. So we evaluated each project for its market

1829
01:47:58,580 --> 01:48:02,660
rates of returns and wanted to compare them to other market realities. And so

1830
01:48:02,660 --> 01:48:06,040
So I won't go through each one, but it is in the packet, I can respond to questions.

1831
01:48:06,780 --> 01:48:11,220
But we did, in each one of these analysis, we took a 10-year projection of just basic,

1832
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,200
the rent projections, expense projections, so that we can have an understanding of how

1833
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:17,920
these projects would perform over time.

1834
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,360
And again, our whole goal is to make sure, one, it works for the district, but it also

1835
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,220
works for the developer.

1836
01:48:22,340 --> 01:48:25,980
They're meeting their expected rates of return, but we're also not overreaching

1837
01:48:25,980 --> 01:48:30,800
in that aspect as well, because there is only so much tools we have in the toolbox

1838
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,500
when it comes to tax incremental financing.

1839
01:48:34,020 --> 01:48:35,900
So I won't go through each one individually,

1840
01:48:36,440 --> 01:48:37,820
but that's the overall.

1841
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:39,900
I have them detailed listed out here

1842
01:48:39,900 --> 01:48:41,800
if we decide to go back and forth through some of these,

1843
01:48:41,860 --> 01:48:43,380
but I just broke down the structure,

1844
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,280
how the overall roughly financing structure,

1845
01:48:46,620 --> 01:48:47,840
loan to value, stuff like that.

1846
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,320
I have the thing, the overall summaries tables included

1847
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:53,880
as well that talks a little bit

1848
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,200
about the public financing part of it,

1849
01:48:56,380 --> 01:48:58,080
so we can touch a little bit on those ones.

1850
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:08,640
But in short, this bottom two tables here are sort of what comes in play, which is the overall percent of proposed public financing assistance towards this project.

1851
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,300
And so I did include that in the packet.

1852
01:49:10,440 --> 01:49:18,000
The summary comes down to we're proposing in this case to break up the public financing part into two different pieces.

1853
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:23,720
the upfront cash grant to help sort of move the project along right on the front end,

1854
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:31,200
but then also extending out our opportunities to support through the use of municipal revenue obligations

1855
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,300
or what are typically known as pay-go agreements and in this case.

1856
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:40,400
So you can see what that breaks down to is of the overall increment projected to be generated through this project

1857
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:46,720
and we have about 41% of it net present value in incentives.

1858
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:51,980
When you include cost of borrowing, when you include the net present or the cost to those

1859
01:49:51,980 --> 01:49:56,600
municipal revenue obligations and interest involved, you're looking at about 70% of the

1860
01:49:56,600 --> 01:50:00,800
total increment generated geared towards the incentives towards this project.

1861
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:07,500
That seems like a lot, but when we take our typical mechanism of our ratios of increment

1862
01:50:07,500 --> 01:50:10,880
to assess value, we're right in line with a lot of our redevelopment targets,

1863
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:18,700
which is in that 20% of the overall incentive to our increment value.

1864
01:50:18,860 --> 01:50:22,300
So we're in target where we've been with other redevelopment projects in the past.

1865
01:50:22,700 --> 01:50:26,760
This one does have more infrastructure costs than we've typically had in our downtown projects,

1866
01:50:27,060 --> 01:50:30,420
but it involves potentially reconstructing a street with more streetscape elements,

1867
01:50:30,660 --> 01:50:34,840
adding a whole new street back to our network public parking ramp construction.

1868
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,780
So as I kind of wrap up here, I did include sort of the general terms,

1869
01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:44,080
But in short, I've sort of outlined all those pieces that's in your packet.

1870
01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:45,680
There's a lot of information there.

1871
01:50:46,180 --> 01:50:54,400
But in short, each one of those development agreements we're proposing to include the conceptual timelines, site plans prior to the development agreements.

1872
01:50:54,580 --> 01:50:59,680
And because we have internal site plan review process, that can be sped along as things move forward.

1873
01:51:00,380 --> 01:51:11,020
Minimum assessed value, minimum tax values per schedule, because we're trying to take advantage of our potential increment growth from just property value appreciations.

1874
01:51:11,900 --> 01:51:19,840
And also looking at, again, that ratio in each one of those agreements of the incentive pay go versus upfront cash grant.

1875
01:51:19,940 --> 01:51:28,700
We sort of outlined where we think it needs to be, but we still want to have the flexibility to come back and say maybe it makes more sense to move those dollar amounts one way or the other.

1876
01:51:28,700 --> 01:51:32,740
And each one of those agreements will also include the city obligations, project costs,

1877
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:34,580
reimbursement grants, annual pay goes.

1878
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:39,460
The overall goal is if the developer finds that what we originally laid out here doesn't

1879
01:51:39,460 --> 01:51:42,560
work for them, we want to be able to come back and say, okay, yes, that makes sense.

1880
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,880
We can move some things around here and then come back with a final development

1881
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:46,200
agreement.

1882
01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:50,440
We know each one of these projects is going to be its own challenge and as a result

1883
01:51:50,440 --> 01:51:53,800
we want to make sure we have enough flexibility to come back with a development agreement

1884
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,380
that works sort of for each party.

1885
01:51:58,460 --> 01:52:01,080
So roughly, I tried to go through it quickly.

1886
01:52:01,620 --> 01:52:06,320
I allotted more time, but I didn't realize what time it is here, but I know that the ownership

1887
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:10,640
group is here for any questions that you may have, but again, if you wish to kind of go

1888
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,580
in a closed session and kind of discuss any of these things, that option is available

1889
01:52:13,580 --> 01:52:14,420
to you as well.

1890
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,740
Okay, so we'll probably do so you understand what the do's and don'ts are.

1891
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,500
We're going to go to our attorney right now, so Tony, tell us how things kind

1892
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:22,020
of go from here.

1893
01:52:22,020 --> 01:52:30,640
Sure, I'll just touch account on a couple of points just logistically or mechanically as Dan indicated

1894
01:52:31,580 --> 01:52:34,700
the council would have the option to go into closed session if they had any

1895
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:42,160
questions or wish to discuss for competitive bargaining negotiating reasons any of the

1896
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:48,720
terms that have been set out in the packet and the term sheet that has been presented

1897
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:56,140
So anything specifically, Council could choose to go into closed session to have further discussion with staff in that regard.

1898
01:52:56,500 --> 01:53:06,580
In addition, as Dan indicated, and as you can see the developers here and would be available to answer any questions or make any comments,

1899
01:53:06,780 --> 01:53:12,060
and that would be contained in open session. So just a couple of points of note moving forward.

1900
01:53:12,860 --> 01:53:16,720
Thank you. So you guys can take a try of questions if you like, and we'll determine from there.

1901
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:22,780
other person rash I have a question for the city attorney so and for Dan a

1902
01:53:22,780 --> 01:53:26,280
little bit here on this one so my my understanding here right now is this is

1903
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:30,760
still a process there's nothing definitive being really decided tonight

1904
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,080
aside from let's move forward and continue conversations and get some more

1905
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:38,240
of the nitty-gritty worked out in my understanding that correctly so I mean

1906
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:42,380
I don't know how much conversation or questioning we can have on terms and

1907
01:53:42,380 --> 01:53:45,440
at this point because of that, or am I?

1908
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:50,060
No, typically if this was at the finance, we'd be looking for a recommendation of these

1909
01:53:50,060 --> 01:53:55,680
draft terms here, and typically we then have the opportunity to, if we find that the terms

1910
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:59,380
are starting to move around, we can either bring them back as a terms discussion or

1911
01:53:59,380 --> 01:54:02,860
bring them forward if they're just nominal enough that we can just let the council

1912
01:54:02,860 --> 01:54:06,200
know when the development agreement is ready that we've made some tweaks from

1913
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,660
the finance committee's recommendation as a result of the market.

1914
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:09,240
Okay.

1915
01:54:09,540 --> 01:54:10,420
Does that help answer your question?

1916
01:54:10,420 --> 01:54:10,780
Yeah, it does.

1917
01:54:10,780 --> 01:54:15,520
I think you're I think you're on yes yeah all the person carpenter so some of

1918
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:21,100
this infrastructure that's got to be done I mean a lot of infrastructure was done

1919
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:25,600
especially water main when the other development never went nowhere when the

1920
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:29,160
shop code development went on and there's a large water main pipe that was

1921
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:33,700
put in can anybody is that going to be moved or we're going to be using some

1922
01:54:33,700 --> 01:54:38,720
of that stuff or so yeah so some of the the infrastructure in in Wisconsin

1923
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:43,960
in discussions with our city engineer potentially has the opportunity to be reused.

1924
01:54:44,140 --> 01:54:46,940
Some of the ductile iron probably has an opportunity now to move it.

1925
01:54:47,220 --> 01:54:51,740
But if we're going to be looking at doing pavement reconfigurations and streetscape elements,

1926
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,720
there may be opportunities to look at that.

1927
01:54:54,980 --> 01:55:01,420
In the terms you see if the proposal is not to include any upgrades to pipes or anything else like that,

1928
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,920
but stuff has to be moved because it's currently sitting where a building needs to sit.

1929
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,620
The terms sort of outline whose responsibility that is.

1930
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,840
If the city ever says, okay, now that we're doing this,

1931
01:55:10,860 --> 01:55:13,680
we'd like to up-size things so that we're better serviced ourselves,

1932
01:55:14,140 --> 01:55:16,440
that's also outlined in the terms that that's a city cost.

1933
01:55:16,820 --> 01:55:22,240
So that, you know, we're trying to be fair in whose responsibility it is in those proposed terms.

1934
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,280
All the person I don't know, and you can cut me off on this,

1935
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:31,780
on the proposed city portion of a garage or a parking area.

1936
01:55:31,780 --> 01:55:36,280
if we don't go in close session I recommend since we're thinking of

1937
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:41,680
generations down the road that would make this parking area large enough that

1938
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:49,520
it's not going to be needed to be done later and Larry or Daniel take that just

1939
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:56,200
the Walker study will assist with that okay yeah but I'm just saying that

1940
01:55:56,200 --> 01:56:02,060
hopefully we are large enough there is also a a piece of that one which is the

1941
01:56:02,060 --> 01:56:06,680
cost of a parking structure and for those that are boats you know the cost per

1942
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:12,580
stall is is quite absorbent so we need to find that balance point other and by

1943
01:56:12,580 --> 01:56:16,120
the way don't let time you know take things away from you all this is a

1944
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:19,120
pretty important project it's a really big deal so if you have stuff you want

1945
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,420
to bring out or you have questions of please do so don't think we're strapped

1946
01:56:22,420 --> 01:56:27,460
anytime restraint whatsoever here I mean it really is of extremely large

1947
01:56:27,460 --> 01:56:31,300
project and deserves your attention I got a 730 tomorrow morning before I

1948
01:56:31,300 --> 01:56:33,460
gotta be to work. I'm good.

1949
01:56:34,660 --> 01:56:36,240
I'll look for some kind of graph. I think you had your hand up.

1950
01:56:36,460 --> 01:56:40,260
Yeah, I don't. I just want to reiterate what you said earlier that this is

1951
01:56:40,260 --> 01:56:44,180
conceptually like nobody should fall in love with the design. It's largely

1952
01:56:44,180 --> 01:56:49,760
developed to give an explanation to the math, right? Or is the design

1953
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:54,460
more that it will be five buildings or multiple buildings that

1954
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:59,160
will be developed over time? Is there, is it somewhere in the middle

1955
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:02,500
because it won't necessarily be this,

1956
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,720
but that's how we could devise a whole plan

1957
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:06,960
for the math to work out.

1958
01:57:07,820 --> 01:57:11,040
I think you're probably looking at a pretty good representation

1959
01:57:11,040 --> 01:57:14,400
of scale and of appropriateness.

1960
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,960
I would say maybe the location of a building being,

1961
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,140
maybe not here in building B's location in B,

1962
01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:23,700
maybe it moves or maybe the hotel moves to a different location.

1963
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:24,440
So it will be five properties.

1964
01:57:24,540 --> 01:57:26,860
I would say the ownership group has looked at this

1965
01:57:26,860 --> 01:57:32,160
This is an opportunity to create the appropriate scale and as you get bigger and bigger buildings

1966
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:38,380
you lose that human element of scale and you also increase your risk when it comes to overall

1967
01:57:38,380 --> 01:57:39,220
performance.

1968
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,320
You have a much bigger building, much bigger debt, you're not able to bring in as many

1969
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:43,940
different investors.

1970
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:48,260
So I would say you're probably pretty close on the massing in scale, that's what we've

1971
01:57:48,260 --> 01:57:48,920
been working towards.

1972
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,720
It's maybe the location and maybe some small tweaks is probably pretty close.

1973
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:58,700
Now the overall look of the looks and feel of those buildings, those are representative images.

1974
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,080
Every project will be different as it comes in.

1975
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:07,580
The parking facility, is that one that future development could be on top of it?

1976
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:17,100
So in our discussions with Walker, who's our parking consultant, we are looking at opportunities for servicing the greater area.

1977
01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:22,380
Now adding scale to that one, adding height to that one also adds height adjacent to the neighborhood.

1978
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:35,780
We have other parking lots that are already in our downtown that maybe be better utilized for additional buildings instead of adding spaces for parking versus adding spaces for other buildings on top of it.

1979
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:39,540
And the reason for that one is just, again, a product of scale.

1980
01:58:39,700 --> 01:58:47,820
Once you add buildings on top of parking structures, your costs go up and you start to really kind of change, I guess you would say, the overall dynamic of it.

1981
01:58:47,820 --> 01:58:53,460
So, we're trying to limit the risk to the building, I guess you would say, and again,

1982
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,420
the cost of a parking structure is just something that we're just trying to handle on and try

1983
01:58:57,420 --> 01:59:01,780
to keep as low as possible, but still, again, provide the greatest opportunity for development

1984
01:59:01,780 --> 01:59:03,240
in the immediate surrounding area.

1985
01:59:06,250 --> 01:59:06,830
Are you good?

1986
01:59:07,670 --> 01:59:08,270
You can think of more.

1987
01:59:08,970 --> 01:59:11,050
All the person, Hanson, was your hand up?

1988
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:11,950
It will be here.

1989
01:59:14,050 --> 01:59:18,410
Terms of the parking structure, are we planning to charge, and if so, is the

1990
01:59:19,210 --> 01:59:21,670
holding on to all that revenue and then in perpetuity.

1991
01:59:22,650 --> 01:59:24,470
So as part of the parking structure,

1992
01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:26,410
that's a separate conversation.

1993
01:59:26,630 --> 01:59:28,590
And it's from this discussion here,

1994
01:59:28,610 --> 01:59:30,530
because that's a whole creation of a parking utility

1995
01:59:30,530 --> 01:59:31,710
and a variety of other elements,

1996
01:59:31,770 --> 01:59:33,730
which we've is in our scope of Walker

1997
01:59:33,730 --> 01:59:35,490
and with Walker to go down.

1998
01:59:35,970 --> 01:59:39,250
But in short, the structure itself

1999
01:59:39,250 --> 01:59:40,430
will have to have paid parking.

2000
01:59:40,690 --> 01:59:44,070
If somebody wants to reside in it for overnight parking

2001
01:59:44,070 --> 01:59:46,690
further, if they have a second car or anything else

2002
01:59:46,690 --> 01:59:49,610
that's not provided in their existing building and they want to lease.

2003
01:59:50,270 --> 01:59:54,370
You're looking at equal lease rates from most likely what's going to be in their structure

2004
01:59:54,370 --> 01:59:56,870
versus what's publicly available for overnight parking.

2005
01:59:58,030 --> 01:59:59,950
There's just no way around being able to build up.

2006
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,780
Parking structure without having a revenue source. That is general public revenue as well

2007
02:00:04,780 --> 02:00:09,120
as additional guaranteed revenue when it comes to general fund, TID district funding and a

2008
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:13,200
variety of other elements. And the revenue would presumably go to paying

2009
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:17,680
back all these projects in the TID? The parking ramp revenue will be going to

2010
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:23,080
pay off the parking ramp. The project itself is to pay off the project revenues that

2011
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:27,640
we are going for a bar win. The parking ramp in this day and age is not going to

2012
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:29,620
be your income generating piece.

2013
02:00:30,020 --> 02:00:30,940
Larry wants to chime in.

2014
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,460
Just right now, the intent is to be most

2015
02:00:33,460 --> 02:00:35,640
like they would create a parking utility.

2016
02:00:36,300 --> 02:00:38,380
So it'd be similar words, that kind of a fun word,

2017
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:39,920
held within that utility.

2018
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:43,180
Have there been any traffic studies done

2019
02:00:43,180 --> 02:00:47,560
on the impact of reopening up the 500 block of William Street?

2020
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,840
Traffic studies as in the impact of the neighborhood?

2021
02:00:51,060 --> 02:00:51,220
Yes.

2022
02:00:51,700 --> 02:00:52,460
There have not been.

2023
02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:54,540
I mean, I think it's a good idea.

2024
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:55,620
I'm just kind of curious.

2025
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:01,860
In terms of the plaza, it looks like that's going to be kind of similar to Mayor Walsh

2026
02:01:01,860 --> 02:01:02,260
Plaza.

2027
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,160
Are there going to be any other amenities there being planned for it?

2028
02:01:05,780 --> 02:01:08,540
That is not the level of detail that we've gotten to this element.

2029
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:13,480
The overall goal is to provide, again, a public-private partnership, but, again, trying

2030
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:18,660
to make as much, I guess, just a human movement in between the plaza spaces as possible

2031
02:01:18,660 --> 02:01:20,800
and in and out of the building.

2032
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:25,720
So, again, that would be designed during that process, during the site plan process.

2033
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:30,620
And then last question, we get a lot of feedback from residents who need more affordable housing,

2034
02:01:30,620 --> 02:01:34,900
and we also need more market rate housing because then that can free up affordable housing as well.

2035
02:01:35,440 --> 02:01:39,400
It doesn't look like there's any affordable units that are being required in this project,

2036
02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:40,440
so I wonder if you could talk about that.

2037
02:01:40,820 --> 02:01:40,960
Yup.

2038
02:01:41,740 --> 02:01:46,400
It really comes down to making it work from a overall tax and criminal financing standpoint.

2039
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:55,040
When you take a affordable workforce housing project, the assessed value decreases because the overall income generation decreases.

2040
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:57,640
So on the income model, you have that.

2041
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:06,160
Our decreasing or continually decreasing mill rates sort of went into that one, but we sort of stabilized that with our schedules.

2042
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:13,440
But really it just comes down to isn't quite economically feasible for our 10 districts at this time when you have this level of buildings.

2043
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:18,020
If you were to do a smaller scale building and bring in a different developer on maybe

2044
02:02:18,020 --> 02:02:21,000
our parking lot to the north in the future, we have opportunities.

2045
02:02:21,340 --> 02:02:25,900
And that's really where the parking ramp comes in play, is if we anticipate greater parking

2046
02:02:25,900 --> 02:02:31,420
needs in the area on some of our existing parking lots to incorporate workforce housing

2047
02:02:31,420 --> 02:02:36,400
or just in other housing opportunities, that helps us kind of turn over some of those

2048
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:40,260
parking lots to greater opportunities for workforce housing.

2049
02:02:40,260 --> 02:02:43,250
All the person rash.

2050
02:02:43,810 --> 02:02:51,030
Yeah, the first comment is, you know, conceptually looking at this project, it's something that

2051
02:02:52,730 --> 02:02:58,710
downtowns need because it incorporates some of the population density that we need with a combination of different types of,

2052
02:02:58,790 --> 02:03:03,230
whether it's professional retail or even the hotel concept as well.

2053
02:03:03,710 --> 02:03:11,190
And I think in order for that our downtowns to be thriving, we need to have that kind of a mixed use that goes on.

2054
02:03:11,650 --> 02:03:17,370
And the fact that you're actually putting quite a bit of population down there in this project is pretty impressive.

2055
02:03:19,190 --> 02:03:25,850
Looking at, when we go back to the 102 building, looking at some of these being 6 and 7 stories,

2056
02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:29,630
there's some experience in the 102 now that we, at first we weren't sure how high we could go

2057
02:03:29,630 --> 02:03:33,570
and then we had to drive some pilings and then we could hit the fourth floor and then we had the fifth floor.

2058
02:03:33,930 --> 02:03:39,030
Are we worried about some of that same type of structural issue in this area going 6 and 7 stories tall

2059
02:03:39,030 --> 02:03:41,590
with what looks to be a little bit bigger footprint on these buildings?

2060
02:03:42,710 --> 02:03:45,410
That is an ownership question.

2061
02:03:46,850 --> 02:03:49,870
I know they've done their Phase 1 and Phase 2 environmental assessments.

2062
02:03:50,150 --> 02:03:54,130
Usually when people are doing those, they're also doing core drills to figure out their soil suitability.

2063
02:03:54,590 --> 02:03:56,510
I don't know if they've done that at this time.

2064
02:03:57,170 --> 02:04:02,010
I will also note that in the Council and the Plan Commission made note that,

2065
02:04:02,190 --> 02:04:04,830
as we start to get to these higher buildings, we start talking about the 102,

2066
02:04:04,830 --> 02:04:08,730
two you notice that as it gets higher up it steps back into the away from this

2067
02:04:08,730 --> 02:04:12,390
from the streetscape that is required in our downtown anything above three

2068
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:16,830
stories as well so there's opportunities for how much and how far you go back but

2069
02:04:16,830 --> 02:04:20,530
so we talk about human scale as we go up I did want to make sure make the

2070
02:04:20,530 --> 02:04:25,070
public aware that some of the images you may see today aren't exactly to meet

2071
02:04:25,070 --> 02:04:28,750
code but as we go through that process they will I guess you say evolve over

2072
02:04:28,750 --> 02:04:33,550
time okay so I guess in terms of you know some of the terms we were

2073
02:04:33,550 --> 02:04:36,970
talking about possibly going to close session for I think conceptually this is

2074
02:04:36,970 --> 02:04:40,850
something that the city needs in terms of that mixed use getting that population

2075
02:04:40,850 --> 02:04:45,910
density down to help help create and make this the downtowns work really well

2076
02:04:46,410 --> 02:04:53,310
so that that's exciting for me it was the one comment and then it was about

2077
02:04:53,310 --> 02:04:56,750
the height of the buildings which are if we've gone to that level yet to look

2078
02:04:56,750 --> 02:05:00,790
at that we can go to six and seven you know because I know there was

2079
02:05:00,790 --> 02:05:04,450
conversation back and forth when we did the 102 that oops we can't go that high

2080
02:05:04,450 --> 02:05:09,950
oh now we can and now we're gonna add that other fifth floor back on top so okay

2081
02:05:09,950 --> 02:05:13,670
other questions I'm looking at this side right here I don't miss anybody and

2082
02:05:13,670 --> 02:05:24,350
we're all good back to this side again can we get it done by the draft they're

2083
02:05:24,350 --> 02:05:25,370
You're laughing in the way you pass.

2084
02:05:25,930 --> 02:05:26,590
So I'm going to say.

2085
02:05:26,910 --> 02:05:27,110
No.

2086
02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:29,070
Just the one part.

2087
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:29,570
Maybe one part.

2088
02:05:29,570 --> 02:05:30,190
Hypothetically speaking.

2089
02:05:30,330 --> 02:05:31,170
Just the first one.

2090
02:05:31,350 --> 02:05:32,370
So what we need right now.

2091
02:05:32,770 --> 02:05:34,530
Now you need to see if you want to go into closed session.

2092
02:05:34,610 --> 02:05:38,930
So we can, someone can make a motion just for the terms of concept and that's, we're

2093
02:05:38,930 --> 02:05:39,570
done with it, correct?

2094
02:05:40,030 --> 02:05:43,170
Or if you have something else you want to discuss, that's just, in your minds,

2095
02:05:43,230 --> 02:05:44,070
we have to go to closed session.

2096
02:05:44,210 --> 02:05:46,690
So the request is to go to closed session and talk about terms of concept.

2097
02:05:46,870 --> 02:05:47,030
Is that?

2098
02:05:47,330 --> 02:05:47,530
No.

2099
02:05:47,610 --> 02:05:48,510
You can just, you can just.

2100
02:05:48,570 --> 02:05:49,870
If we prove it as it is.

2101
02:05:50,630 --> 02:05:53,350
Or if you want to talk about it more in closed session, we could do that.

2102
02:05:54,450 --> 02:05:59,870
But my only follow-up to that would be the approval tonight is not locking down all those terms.

2103
02:06:00,010 --> 02:06:04,670
There's still some opportunity for things to change and whatnot as we go through the process.

2104
02:06:04,830 --> 02:06:06,630
We're not locked into what happens right now.

2105
02:06:06,830 --> 02:06:11,630
In the terms, there is a statement in it that says we are requesting the ability to be a little bit flexible,

2106
02:06:11,830 --> 02:06:15,950
but if we deviate beyond what we feel is comfortable as the city attorney, city administrator,

2107
02:06:16,150 --> 02:06:20,970
and development services director of what the spirit of the approved terms was, we would bring it back.

2108
02:06:20,970 --> 02:06:25,830
And the only reason I make that clarifying question is when we go back to the big project

2109
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:29,530
that's about to finish this summer, I know some things change as we went through the process.

2110
02:06:30,310 --> 02:06:36,010
With those terms, and so I just want to make sure there's a little bit of that opportunity or flexibility

2111
02:06:36,010 --> 02:06:40,330
that's there if something has to change that you'll bring it back to us so we can look at that.

2112
02:06:40,350 --> 02:06:43,070
Yeah, you'd be notified of any changes prior to any development agreement.

2113
02:06:43,490 --> 02:06:43,650
Okay.

2114
02:06:44,050 --> 02:06:46,950
So it's basically your comfort level with the people that he had just mentioned,

2115
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:51,710
You know so which I am I'm comfortable to but it's entirely up to you all right here

2116
02:06:53,530 --> 02:06:57,870
So if that's the case, we don't have to go to closed session you can make a motion in a second to

2117
02:06:58,450 --> 02:07:04,770
Yeah, at this point. I would make a motion to to approve and accept the the recommendation from the

2118
02:07:06,210 --> 02:07:13,310
Development services director terms of terms of concept. Do we want to use that as the just proposed development or post-development?

2119
02:07:14,050 --> 02:07:14,430
Second.

2120
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:15,470
I'm good with that.

2121
02:07:15,790 --> 02:07:16,070
Hang on.

2122
02:07:16,190 --> 02:07:17,630
Proposed development agreement terms?

2123
02:07:18,030 --> 02:07:19,410
That's what the agenda says.

2124
02:07:20,210 --> 02:07:20,350
Thank you.

2125
02:07:20,350 --> 02:07:20,650
I'm good with that.

2126
02:07:21,790 --> 02:07:23,330
First, second, you both okay with that?

2127
02:07:23,470 --> 02:07:26,550
So we have a motion by Alderperson Rash, second by Alderperson Gantz.

2128
02:07:26,930 --> 02:07:30,490
Now that we have the motion and second, any additional comments and or discussion,

2129
02:07:30,670 --> 02:07:31,550
as is well called, all irregular?

2130
02:07:32,670 --> 02:07:33,050
No.

2131
02:07:33,710 --> 02:07:34,070
Just regular.

2132
02:07:34,370 --> 02:07:34,510
Okay.

2133
02:07:34,810 --> 02:07:36,250
Any additional comments or questions?

2134
02:07:36,630 --> 02:07:37,370
Alderperson Hansen.

2135
02:07:37,550 --> 02:07:40,230
We may want to open up the meeting for the developers to say a few words

2136
02:07:40,230 --> 02:07:44,070
and also address other person rashes question about the story of your call

2137
02:07:44,070 --> 02:07:46,130
I'll make a motion to open the meeting

2138
02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:51,130
motion by other person Hanson second by other person Levin to Levin to open up the meeting

2139
02:07:51,130 --> 02:07:52,510
all those in favor say aye

2140
02:07:54,230 --> 02:07:58,690
opposed motion carries thank you any or all the gentlemen want to go to this table right here

2141
02:07:58,690 --> 02:08:01,770
we have two seats but we can probably just have one and it looks like

2142
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:05,290
either of you Andy for sure wasn't trying

2143
02:08:05,290 --> 02:08:07,230
Sure, I thought you were inviting him up.

2144
02:08:07,390 --> 02:08:08,750
He wasn't even budging.

2145
02:08:08,790 --> 02:08:09,390
He got the coat on.

2146
02:08:09,790 --> 02:08:10,330
That's a name and address.

2147
02:08:10,730 --> 02:08:11,210
Good evening.

2148
02:08:11,310 --> 02:08:12,350
Well, we have your name and address then.

2149
02:08:12,510 --> 02:08:13,610
I'm Jason Tadek.

2150
02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:16,590
I live at 3032 Automotive Circle in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

2151
02:08:17,170 --> 02:08:17,490
Thank you.

2152
02:08:17,950 --> 02:08:20,450
Member, one of the questions you want to try to address for them or whatever, you

2153
02:08:20,450 --> 02:08:24,910
will start with the question regarding the deep foundation system from Alderman Ranch.

2154
02:08:26,990 --> 02:08:31,730
The short answer is we believe that we will need deep foundation systems on this site.

2155
02:08:32,230 --> 02:08:35,170
As we're taking the buildings taller, they get heavier.

2156
02:08:36,770 --> 02:08:39,130
There's no doubt that we're going to need some underground parking.

2157
02:08:39,390 --> 02:08:47,690
And certainly, we do no reason to believe at this point in time that the foundations or the soil bearing capacities are wildly different from the sites at the 102.

2158
02:08:48,710 --> 02:08:55,930
You know, it's part of the reason that the request for some assistance here is a little bit higher than our initial request at the 102.

2159
02:08:55,930 --> 02:08:59,790
So those numbers including the deep foundation system are already you know

2160
02:08:59,790 --> 02:09:03,990
someone baked into our budgets for this project. And the deep foundation system

2161
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:07,350
allows you to also do the underground parking in place correct? Correct. And are

2162
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:11,530
you going to use a very similar ratio to parking like you did with the 102? We

2163
02:09:11,530 --> 02:09:15,990
we hope to even have a higher parking ratio. You know certainly when we when

2164
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:19,690
we added the fifth floor to the 102 we ended up two shorts two stalls short

2165
02:09:19,690 --> 02:09:23,610
at the 102 so we're a little less than one for one and we would

2166
02:09:23,610 --> 02:09:27,090
certainly like to be, you know, at least one for one and then certainly have the

2167
02:09:27,090 --> 02:09:31,230
ability to, for residents needing a second car, the ability to have some

2168
02:09:31,230 --> 02:09:34,730
additional supplemental parking and then the parking structure we think will be

2169
02:09:34,730 --> 02:09:39,590
an advantage for everyone in the neighborhood. Perfect, thank you. Thank you.

2170
02:09:39,790 --> 02:09:44,510
Other comments or questions before, do you want to make any kind of, all the

2171
02:09:44,510 --> 02:09:50,030
person coming in, I'm sorry I didn't see your NFL drive. What about timing? Oh the timing for the NFL

2172
02:09:50,030 --> 02:09:54,750
I would love to say that we would be able to get this done, and particularly a hotel

2173
02:09:54,750 --> 02:10:01,270
for the NFL Draft, I just really hesitate to say that that's really even feasible at

2174
02:10:01,270 --> 02:10:01,870
this point in time.

2175
02:10:01,970 --> 02:10:07,930
And we're talking about some outline terms today, even if we push the go button in the

2176
02:10:07,930 --> 02:10:13,830
next 60 to 90 days, we'd be 90 days to draw plans, 90 days to per minute.

2177
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:20,710
And then realistically in today's world with lead times for a lot of our electrical gear

2178
02:10:20,710 --> 02:10:25,730
and appliances and just the general backup in the construction industry,

2179
02:10:26,070 --> 02:10:29,770
we're looking at probably 12 to 18 months to build one of these buildings.

2180
02:10:31,510 --> 02:10:32,690
It's in 2025.

2181
02:10:33,830 --> 02:10:36,370
So you want to go to the full session now and talk about this or what?

2182
02:10:38,450 --> 02:10:41,070
Did you have anything else, other person coming here?

2183
02:10:41,670 --> 02:10:42,990
Anyone else have any questions?

2184
02:10:43,650 --> 02:10:44,450
Alderperson Hansen.

2185
02:10:44,810 --> 02:10:51,530
Yeah, in terms of the timeline, in Daniel's memo, it's kind of staggered, some 24, 25, 26, 27.

2186
02:10:51,690 --> 02:10:54,130
Just kind of wondering your thought process behind that.

2187
02:10:55,150 --> 02:10:58,050
Well, the reason that we have, you know, I guess I'll back up a little bit.

2188
02:10:58,310 --> 02:11:03,610
You know, when we first started this project, we were looking at doing, you know, one to two significantly larger structures

2189
02:11:03,610 --> 02:11:07,590
and having the mixed uses be kind of baked into a larger structure.

2190
02:11:07,590 --> 02:11:12,430
as the world changed a little bit with construction pricing

2191
02:11:12,430 --> 02:11:17,030
as also the cost of interest and some of the overall economic uncertainty

2192
02:11:17,030 --> 02:11:21,510
that's been, I guess, present in recent years.

2193
02:11:21,670 --> 02:11:25,670
We decided that it made more sense for us to pull back the scale of the project

2194
02:11:25,670 --> 02:11:29,690
and to, you know, number one, to respect the scale of the neighborhood in the downtown

2195
02:11:29,690 --> 02:11:35,310
and number two, to make each individual project a little less of a hurdle

2196
02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:39,850
to get into the ground and out of the ground to also allow us to react a little bit more

2197
02:11:39,850 --> 02:11:41,130
quickly to changes in the market.

2198
02:11:42,830 --> 02:11:52,110
Keeping all of these projects a little bit more bite size rather than a full meal I think

2199
02:11:52,110 --> 02:11:58,050
will allow us to actually proceed through the site with a little more consistency and

2200
02:11:58,810 --> 02:12:03,470
really get the first project, focus on the first project and get it going sooner than

2201
02:12:03,470 --> 02:12:06,530
it would if we were to have one larger project here.

2202
02:12:07,250 --> 02:12:10,430
And the aesthetics of the buildings, they look similar to the 102 on Broadway?

2203
02:12:10,890 --> 02:12:17,490
Yeah, I think that if you take a look at the 102, if you look at the projects that I recently

2204
02:12:17,490 --> 02:12:22,650
completed in downtown Appleton and downtown Nina, I think you'll see some design similarities.

2205
02:12:23,470 --> 02:12:30,410
I'm a believer in having some fairly classic lines to things with some classic materials.

2206
02:12:30,410 --> 02:12:35,770
and I like to build projects that look like they've been there for a while and that look

2207
02:12:35,770 --> 02:12:39,650
like they're going to fit in for 50 years, at least after that.

2208
02:12:40,070 --> 02:12:40,430
Generations.

2209
02:12:41,210 --> 02:12:41,710
Oh, yeah.

2210
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:42,930
For generations.

2211
02:12:43,550 --> 02:12:43,790
Correct.

2212
02:12:44,050 --> 02:12:44,830
For generations, yes.

2213
02:12:45,010 --> 02:12:45,550
Keep that going.

2214
02:12:47,070 --> 02:12:48,150
The theme of the night.

2215
02:12:48,510 --> 02:12:49,590
If that keeps on giving.

2216
02:12:51,310 --> 02:12:52,070
All the first names?

2217
02:12:52,290 --> 02:12:52,610
I'm good.

2218
02:12:52,930 --> 02:12:53,210
You're good?

2219
02:12:53,610 --> 02:12:54,210
Shane has got some.

2220
02:12:54,230 --> 02:12:57,450
By the way, since we get a lot of e-mails and phone calls regarding the shop go building,

2221
02:12:57,450 --> 02:13:03,470
And of course it's going to come down so you can publicly state right now the shop go buildings coming down because I get suggestions for all kinds

2222
02:13:03,470 --> 02:13:06,410
Of things in that building provided we come to terms on a development agreement

2223
02:13:06,970 --> 02:13:10,310
Building will come based on what we're seeing that generally is the general idea

2224
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:16,550
You want to go in close session Halloween Express. Yeah, that's his favorite one

2225
02:13:17,070 --> 02:13:18,250
That's what he always said

2226
02:13:20,090 --> 02:13:23,450
So just to get that out there for the general public right now

2227
02:13:23,910 --> 02:13:29,230
Alderperson Lebanon. That was my question. It says in here raise shopco building prior to January 1st, 2024

2228
02:13:29,810 --> 02:13:32,950
That would be our goal. Awesome. So thank you

2229
02:13:33,930 --> 02:13:39,990
Sorry about that all the person Lebanon apologies. I'll any other questions that we have. Well Jason's right here

2230
02:13:41,390 --> 02:13:44,530
Jason any else that you want to offer while we're an open session?

2231
02:13:44,650 --> 02:13:49,710
Well, I just want to you know first of all say it's always a pleasure to work with with the city of the pier

2232
02:13:49,710 --> 02:13:52,210
Dan's been working tirelessly on this project

2233
02:13:52,970 --> 02:13:54,770
I really appreciate his assistance.

2234
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:56,490
This doesn't happen without him.

2235
02:13:56,710 --> 02:13:58,010
It's a great community to work with.

2236
02:13:58,090 --> 02:14:01,070
We have great staff and a terrific community.

2237
02:14:01,250 --> 02:14:02,750
And thank you for your support on this.

2238
02:14:03,890 --> 02:14:04,890
Thank you very much.

2239
02:14:05,090 --> 02:14:05,350
Thank you.

2240
02:14:05,450 --> 02:14:06,190
Thank you to all of you.

2241
02:14:06,410 --> 02:14:08,810
So yeah, it's great interest that you have in the site

2242
02:14:08,810 --> 02:14:10,150
and all that you're doing so far.

2243
02:14:10,330 --> 02:14:11,970
So anybody else?

2244
02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:12,930
All right.

2245
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:14,130
I need a motion then to go back.

2246
02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:14,750
So moved.

2247
02:14:15,090 --> 02:14:15,390
Second.

2248
02:14:15,770 --> 02:14:17,010
Motion by Elder Person Rash.

2249
02:14:17,210 --> 02:14:18,530
Second by Elder Person Levinna.

2250
02:14:18,730 --> 02:14:19,870
To go back to regular session.

2251
02:14:20,190 --> 02:14:21,630
All those in favor say aye.

2252
02:14:21,630 --> 02:14:21,970
Hi.

2253
02:14:22,050 --> 02:14:22,150
Hi.

2254
02:14:22,790 --> 02:14:23,230
Opposed?

2255
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:24,590
Motion carries.

2256
02:14:24,590 --> 02:14:25,130
Thank you.

2257
02:14:25,230 --> 02:14:26,630
We're back in regular session right now.

2258
02:14:26,710 --> 02:14:31,190
We do have a motion and we do have a second on the terms and the project.

2259
02:14:31,390 --> 02:14:33,090
So any additional questions and or comments?

2260
02:14:33,770 --> 02:14:34,750
All the person can'ts.

2261
02:14:34,810 --> 02:14:38,630
I just want to say thank you for putting all your hard work into it.

2262
02:14:38,630 --> 02:14:39,770
And I think it looks great.

2263
02:14:40,150 --> 02:14:40,970
And we're excited.

2264
02:14:41,230 --> 02:14:43,610
And I'm sure the community is going to be excited.

2265
02:14:44,090 --> 02:14:44,710
It's been a while.

2266
02:14:45,090 --> 02:14:47,590
So everyone is like, what are you doing with that job?

2267
02:14:48,330 --> 02:14:49,450
What's going in there?

2268
02:14:49,450 --> 02:14:51,310
So, we're excited.

2269
02:14:51,650 --> 02:14:52,110
Thank you.

2270
02:14:58,260 --> 02:14:58,960
Exactly.

2271
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,020
Any additional comments? End our discussion.

2272
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:12,920
Seeing there is none, first step moving on right now. That said, all those in favor say aye.

2273
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:20,240
Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Step one. Thank you gentlemen. Thank you.

2274
02:15:20,540 --> 02:15:21,480
So what is Facebook?

2275
02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:36,620
Now we officially will be going to close session for this next item we have to correct okay

2276
02:15:36,620 --> 02:15:40,600
so now I'm going to go with the legally stuff should I get the motion from them first and

2277
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:45,640
then say this we need a motion to go on to our I'll read this first which I just asked

2278
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:53,240
All right, all right. I will say the item is 32 consideration of possible action of Fire Department pay claims.

2279
02:15:53,700 --> 02:16:04,760
Me read. Please take notice that the council may convene in closed session for agenda item now 32 pursuant to any of the following provisions on the Wisconsin Statue 1985L.

2280
02:16:05,300 --> 02:16:13,360
For the purpose of deliberating or negotiating the purchasing of public properties, investing in public funds, or conducting other specified public business,

2281
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:29,100
whenever competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed session, and for conferring with legal counsel who is rendering oral or written advice concerning strategy to be adopted by the counsel with respect to litigation in which it is or is likely to become involved.

2282
02:16:29,220 --> 02:16:42,500
The counsel may then reconvene thereafter in open session pursuant to Wisconsin Statue Section 1985-2 to report the results of the closed session and consider the balance of the agenda I would now entertain a motion.

2283
02:16:42,500 --> 02:16:44,760
We'll make a motion to go into a closed session.

2284
02:16:45,300 --> 02:16:49,080
Motion by Alderperson Rash, seconded by Alderperson Gantz.

2285
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:50,380
Roll call, vote please.

2286
02:16:51,180 --> 02:16:52,100
Alderperson Carpenter?

2287
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:52,440
Aye.

2288
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:53,360
Gantz?

2289
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:53,760
Aye.

2290
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:54,500
Hansen?

2291
02:16:54,660 --> 02:16:54,860
Aye.

2292
02:16:55,240 --> 02:16:55,620
Conninger?

2293
02:16:55,820 --> 02:16:56,080
Aye.

2294
02:16:56,460 --> 02:16:56,760
Ludvina?

2295
02:16:57,100 --> 02:16:57,620
Aye.

2296
02:16:58,100 --> 02:16:58,380
Pee Rock?

2297
02:16:58,740 --> 02:16:58,900
Aye.

2298
02:16:59,260 --> 02:16:59,560
Quigley?

2299
02:16:59,820 --> 02:17:00,020
Aye.

2300
02:17:00,320 --> 02:17:00,520
Rash?

2301
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:01,080
Aye.

2302
02:17:01,820 --> 02:17:04,520
Please take notice that this meeting will be locked for the closed session.

2303
02:17:04,760 --> 02:17:08,760
Unauthorized attendees will be disconnected from the meeting during the closed session.

2304
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:15,740
If you'd like to rejoin the meeting after the closed session, please wait five minutes and use the same meeting connection information to reconnect to the meeting.

2305
02:17:15,960 --> 02:17:19,800
You'll be placed in the meeting lobby until the meeting resumes from the closed session.

2306
02:17:20,060 --> 02:17:24,820
If you are not part of the closed session at this time, please disconnect from the meeting now.

2307
02:17:25,900 --> 02:17:28,320
Jamie, I've done it. I've read it. You can now do it.

2308
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:30,340
Thank you.

2309
02:17:30,340 --> 02:17:30,960
We're

2310
02:17:33,300 --> 02:17:33,660
all set.

2311
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:34,760
Nope.

2312
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:35,840
Not yet.

2313
02:17:36,580 --> 02:17:37,680
There's a, you're waiting.

2314
02:17:37,960 --> 02:17:38,960
I'm going to take the mics off though.

2315
02:17:39,060 --> 02:17:39,560
I can do that much.

2316
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:41,920
Caller 1 has been disbanded.

2317
02:17:43,640 --> 02:17:45,720
This conference will now be recorded.

2318
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:47,460
We have software.

2319
02:17:47,620 --> 02:17:48,340
Back on.

2320
02:17:48,520 --> 02:17:49,180
All mics are on.

2321
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:54,640
We are now back in regular session and I'd entertain a motion on item 32,

2322
02:17:54,980 --> 02:17:57,600
consideration impossible action on fire department pay claims.

2323
02:17:58,140 --> 02:18:00,960
I will make a motion to approve the settlement as proposed.

2324
02:18:01,340 --> 02:18:01,780
I'll second.

2325
02:18:01,780 --> 02:18:05,660
Motion by Alderperson Levinas, seconded by Alderperson Gantz.

2326
02:18:05,740 --> 02:18:07,320
Any additional discussion and or comments?

2327
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:10,640
Seeing there is none, roll call vote please.

2328
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:12,080
Alderperson Hansen?

2329
02:18:12,280 --> 02:18:12,440
Aye.

2330
02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:13,180
Cunninger?

2331
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:13,620
Aye.

2332
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:14,320
Levinas?

2333
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:14,640
Aye.

2334
02:18:15,060 --> 02:18:15,300
Pee Rock?

2335
02:18:15,620 --> 02:18:15,900
Aye.

2336
02:18:16,260 --> 02:18:16,560
Quigley?

2337
02:18:16,820 --> 02:18:17,100
Aye.

2338
02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:17,600
Rash?

2339
02:18:17,900 --> 02:18:18,060
Aye.

2340
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:18,880
Carpenter?

2341
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:19,300
Aye.

2342
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:19,980
Gantz?

2343
02:18:20,140 --> 02:18:20,420
Aye.

2344
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:21,700
Motion carries.

2345
02:18:21,940 --> 02:18:22,320
Thank you.

2346
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:25,680
Item 33, I'd entertain a motion to adjourn.

2347
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:27,460
So moved.

2348
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:28,900
Second.

2349
02:18:29,180 --> 02:18:31,980
Motion by Alderperson Quigley, seconded by Alderperson Fierock.

2350
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,320
All those in favor say aye.

2351
02:18:33,480 --> 02:18:33,780
Aye.

2352
02:18:34,060 --> 02:18:34,180
Aye.

2353
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:35,480
Opposed?

2354
02:18:35,780 --> 02:18:36,400
Motion carries.

2355
02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:37,000
Thank you.

2356
02:18:37,060 --> 02:18:37,920
We're officially adjourned.

2357
02:18:37,980 --> 02:18:38,520
Thank you everybody.