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At the time, we'll call the order, the regular meeting of Common Council. This is July 18, 2023, carry, roll please.

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Foundation, under God, individual,

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with over-gened justice, and so on.

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Item three approval of the minutes of the June 20th,

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2023 Common Council meeting.

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A commotion approval.

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Motion by all the person, Carpenter, second by all the person

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led me to any discussion or comments.

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Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

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All right.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries, thank you.

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Item four, public hearing on the amendment

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of Chapter 14 zoning ordinance of the Deep Hearing Municipal Code, including updates to the official

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zoning district map. Will the clerk please read the notice?

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The notice of public hearing was published in the press times on June 30, and July 7, 2023.

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Thank you. Recommendation from staff, Dan.

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Thank you, Mayor. In June, the plan commission heard from staff regarding the second quarter

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of edits. As you remember, once we adopted the new zoning coding in December of last year

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for Effective January 1 of this year, we knew that there was going to be growing pains.

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And this is the second quarter of the one where we're finding just some small corrections,

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some typographical errors and a variety of other small things that we found over the first few

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months that we probably need to finesse and just massage out a little bit.

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So in that, I think Commissioner recommended approval of 32 zoning ordinance revisions.

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And when you see a 32 it's not really doesn't look that big because when you make a change in one chart

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It sort of makes its way through the multiple other charts and so even though it says 32 from a content standpoint

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It isn't that many and then also five zoning map revisions as we went through

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Last year we have about 8,000, 9,000 properties in the city

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We're finding a couple little pockets here and there of one that should have been classified

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appropriately and so these are what those those corrections are so we can go through them individually if you'd like

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But with that, the Plan Commission recommended approval of the zoning text change as well as the zoning map provisions.

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I would like to make one point.

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It was included in your packet.

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That was a deviation from the Plan Commission.

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The staff is recommending a small change to the facade requirements for our single family homes and do flex homes.

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That was included in your packet.

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Our goal with that one is to address that at a later date after we've had some additional time to investigate a little bit

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there with some of our builders who were objecting still to that language.

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So with that one, we are sort of making the correction to that facade language, but we'd

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like to still evaluate it for further investigation into the future.

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Thank you. At this time, I declare the public hearing hope in anyone in the audience or virtually

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want to speak on this item on the agenda now is your time. So if anyone in the public wants to speak

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on this item on the agenda item four, either raise your hand in the audience or virtually just

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for the second time any one of the public want to speak on this item on the agenda

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state your name either virtually if you're out there or in person. For the third

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and final time any one want to make a comment regarding this item on the agenda

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while the hearing is open. Seeing there is none I declare the public hearing

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closed and when entertained emotions so if you have questions we can ask them.

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I make a motion to approve.

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I'll second motion my other person rash second my other person p-rock any discussion or comments

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Seeing there is none all those in favor say aye

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opposed motion carries. Thank you item five

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Public hearing on a request to be zone parcels WD 534 WD 535 WD 531

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WD 536 at

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22828 Maine Avenue and 823-827 Oak Street from R-1-45 single dwelling detached to MX-3

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corridor mix use. Can the clerk please read the notice of the public hearing?

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The public hearing was published in the press times on June 30, and July 7, 2023.

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Thank you, staff recommendation, please.

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Thank you, Mayor. At the June Plan Commission meeting,

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The plan commission also heard from an applicant to rezone the four parcels as you mentioned on main avenue purpose behind that is to transition from the single family and rental properties that you do see there to a commercial use in line with our comprehensive plan are existing comprehensive plan so as you see on the map there you can see the four homes that are identified in between Johnson bank as well as the pharmacy so you see those four homes the small a small clip that you see there on the side is from the comprehensive plan future

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and use map, which of this area was designated

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for commercial redevelopment.

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So that is in line with the comprehensive plan

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at a such supply and commission recommended approval.

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Thank you.

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At this time, I'll declare the public hearing open

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for this item on the agenda.

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If I didn't want to speak on this item,

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just raise your hand either in person or virtually

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now is your time while the public hearing is open.

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For the second time, anyone want to speak on this item

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on the agenda while the public hearings open regarding item five.

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For the third and final time, if anyone wants to speak on this item on the agenda while

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the public hearing is open, just raise your hand or stay-chername.

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It appears there is no one, so at this time I declare the public hearing closed and when

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entertain a motion.

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I'll make a motion to approve.

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Second, motion milder person rash, second of my older person carpenter, any discussion

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or comments.

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All the person, Hansen.

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Yeah, Dan, can you just talk about the current single family homes, including on Oak

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Street, 823 and 827?

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How old?

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No, four that are under discussion here tonight?

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Yeah, kind of, they get, I assume they're going to be raised, but who owns them right now?

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It's owned by one single entity.

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The applicant is representing them tonight.

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The intention is to remove them and turn that into another financial institution to serve

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the greater-to-peer community.

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And with our new website that was posted, you should be able to track the site plan process as it works its way through.

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And then 831 to 847, I know it's not part of this, but on that map for future land use, is that also supposed to eventually be commercial?

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It's later for future commercial, but it's completely up to the owners of those properties to understand if they wish to have

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to stay at the single family's own classification.

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But the comp plan did show commercial redevelopment on them, as well.

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So they could request the rezoning in the future if they so choose.

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Thank you.

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Other questions or comments?

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Seeing there is none.

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All those in favor?

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Say aye.

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Item six.

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Public comments upon matters.

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Not on the agenda.

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Comments made during the public comment period.

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Shell pertain only to matters under the jurisdiction of the common council.

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So at this time, if anyone has a public comment upon matters not in the agenda in the audience,

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if you want to raise your hand and come up and speak, come on up.

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Mary Jane will have a give us your name and address.

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You know how this thing works.

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Because we're sitting on 33 items on the agenda, we will adhere to our five-minute rule again.

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Great amazing.

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Thanks Mary Jane.

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Mary Jane Herbert eight forty nine yeah eight forty nine North Clay in

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deep here. I'm here to say that the city council I've just come from the village

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board in Alley that meant at six thirty I'm here now something has got to be

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done about the deer population in this community. Between I talk to a friend I'm

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tired of having my yard be there bidding.

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I'm tired of having my flowers, my tomato plants,

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everything just chopped off.

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Last year, I've been in my house

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since October of 2006.

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And I talked to one of the neighbors,

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and it's only the last five or six years

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this has really gotten to be a problem.

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Last year, I deliberately did not pull out

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any of the stems of the day, Lily,

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that got chomped off. And you can tell when a flower has come to fruition and the buds have

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blossomed and just fallen off. And you can tell when the deer have come. Because they

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looser tall. It's not the bunnies. Okay. I had 350 stems. So if you figure there's 3, 4, 5, 6,

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buds per stem. We're talking about a thousand flowers. The neighbors are losing to make

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plans we've got deer, they're pooping in our yards, they're all over the place. And I

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talked to a friend who's very active with the DNR and is on several committees. And

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he told me about a week ago that the optimum for deer population in this country is six

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per square mile. Well, that's obviously in downtown Los Angeles. They don't have a lot of deer,

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but that means that that count is over in Colorado.

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In Wisconsin, we have 35 to 40 deer per square mile

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according to the DNR figures.

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The property at the Abbey is a quarter of a mile square,

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168 acres, the square mile, 640.

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168 acres, I can tell you that there's 35 to 40 people

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deer on that property because there are times

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that I come home from work along Webster,

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and I can count 20, drive in 30 miles an hour.

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We've got too many deer in Easteapier.

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I'm part of it's because of the trail,

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I understand that.

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But between the deer and the ledgeview and Belleview

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and Alloway and Green Bay,

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we've got to do something about that deer population.

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It is far too large in terms of the acreage that there is.

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And the other problem is is because of the speed limit on both Riverside and Webster and it's 30 miles an hour.

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Some people are doing 25, some people are doing 40, but because of that speed limit and what's happening is we're not losing any deer because there's 5560.

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If you were out on 29 or 54 or one of those, there'd be a lot more deer than getting bumped off and a lot more damage to cars.

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Well really, think about it, people at when if you're driving 30 miles an hour and a deer comes out in front of you,

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you can break and miss it and it can miss you.

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And so we don't have as many dead deer as we would if it was 55, 60 on Riverside Drive.

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And I call Brad laying from all the way frequently, below, with lawn cemetery down in there

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where that ravine is, and call them and say, Brad, I don't know who takes care of this,

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but there's another dead deer down there.

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And I've done it for the last two or three years that there's deer laying in that piece.

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And it's partly because when people come down off a river side, there's that dip, and that little

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and we have to do something about it.

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I am tired of having the neighbors tell me about their tomato plants.

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I'm tired of looking out the window and seeing them eating other people's flowers, et cetera.

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And the problem is that most people won't make the effort to come here and say it.

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I'm here tonight telling you there's too many deer on the abbey property.

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I'm prepared to give that young frotter or priest or whoever he is a couple of years ago that everybody

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Oh, Bambi! Bambi, Bloney! I'm ready to buy a deer take and give him another one and let him have another deer because I've had it.

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I don't want to take out my flower bed and put in grass. We don't want that. Think about it this way, guys.

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We're talking about bees and the fact that bees are going away, but we're going to eliminate the flower beds because we can't figure out what to do with the deer.

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So we aren't going to have bees, but we're going to have deer that are a problem. That doesn't make sense.

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So that's my point of being here. Please work together with these other communities and figure out what to do about this deer population.

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That's it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mary Jane.

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Anyone else in the audience have public comment

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to upon matters, not on the agenda.

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Anyone virtually have any public comment

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to upon matters, not on the agenda.

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For the third and final time,

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anyone have any public comment to upon matters,

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not on the agenda.

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All right.

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Thank you again.

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Item seven,

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Proclamation for the 100th birthday of Clayton E. Colb,

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has been unfortunately moved to a later meeting, so we will not do that tonight.

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Item 8.

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Green Bay Transit Presentation.

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There are services for a deep peer residence.

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Patty's here somewhere.

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There's Patty.

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Hello there.

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How are you?

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Hi, very good.

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Thank you.

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I was hiding in CQ.

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I was like, why is that?

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I didn't.

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I think the aim was to have a proper point.

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Well, thank you for inviting me.

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I appreciate it.

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I think it's been a little bit.

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Hey, I want a second Patty.

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They're just going to find you.

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If you have a presentation, it's already a logo.

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Let's see what it

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is.

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There it is.

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It wasn't in PowerPoint.

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It was in...

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Well, whatever it is, you're handling that song.

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We're good to go.

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That's how it's screwed up.

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Just give me the signal.

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Got it.

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Well, thank you.

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I think it's been a little while since I've been...

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So I appreciate Larry and VTV out here to explain where things are at with Green Bay Metro. We've had a lot of changes over the last few years, a lot that really has impacted the city of deep years.

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So with that, I just wanted to kind of give an overview of how we're doing things today and happy to answer any questions at the end that there may be.

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So I want to put me to the next screen there, awesome.

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So back in 2020, of course, we've all had it,

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you know, went through a lot of changes.

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We took our traditional fixed route,

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paratransit system, and we kind of revamped

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and added an additional mode of transportation.

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So that brings us to providing three different modes

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of public transit to the communities.

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And that's the traditional fixed route bus,

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which is true that that traditional fixed rail bus is no longer in the city of DPR.

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But we also have paratransit, that is for qualified disabled individuals.

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And then we have our new micro-transit, which is our on-demand service.

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And so I'll talk a little bit about that as we go forward.

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But that's really the main service that along with paratransit, that covers your community.

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So with that, yes, please.

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This kind of gives you an overview of our whole service area.

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And so really what we did back in 2019, the Transit Commission had approved a consultant

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to come in and look at an additional motor transportation for us, which is the on-demand service.

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And one of the reasons for that is the traditional bus would provide service from about

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515 in the morning till about 1045 at night, and I'm probably not telling you all anything new

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that some of those buses in the evening were not very heavily used.

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And so what we really wanted to do is make sure that we were meeting the demand of the community,

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but kind of doing it in the most efficient way that we could in most time effective.

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So, so we brought in a consultant, we kind of re-did.

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We really started with a plan map, started over from the beginning, and with all the great technology that we have in place we're able to tell where people are getting on,

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where they're getting off, where they're utilizing the services, and so that's really what we did.

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And we worked very closely with Brown County Planning who serves as our metropolitan planning

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organization.

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And so we worked with them and really kind of looked at things and said, where are people

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using it and where is the need?

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And so what we did with that is we circled the fixed route system all around that.

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Because obviously the most cost effective system is to be able to use fixed route buses where

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those numbers are.

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And then we really wanted to make sure that we were servicing those other areas that didn't

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have a high ridership, but yet needed transportation for third shift workers and those types

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of things.

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So that's where we really kind of took microtransit, which is an on-demand service that

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I'm going to explain.

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And really, we use that to complement the existing service.

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So our service map looks a little different here.

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There, it might be a little bit challenging for you to see from a distance, but all the colored

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routes are the traditional fixed route service that is provided and then that yellow area

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that's around the whole service area, that is all paratransit.

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As you can see, that is really changed for the city of DPR, and that is because of the

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on-demand service.

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So an on-demand service is really very, very similar to a public version of Uber and

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left.

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So you can book it via phone or you can book it versus an on an app.

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And you know, our response time we like to really say we want to be there within about 20 minutes

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we're averaging about 13 minutes right now and that was as of yesterday morning, so we are

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on target for those rides, so and what happens is all of those are ADA accessible trips

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as well. So regulations change for us a little bit with that different mode of transportation

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which is why you don't see that bubble quite as large. Just so you know that bubble is a

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little bit smaller than, you know, previously it was covered a little bit more area of

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peer, however, anybody that was previously approved for that paratransit did not, you know,

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none of their services change. So, but anybody within any of those zones can use that

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on demand service. And, you know, and those are all ADA accessible. They are, it's provided us

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the option to provide additional service hours, which is really nice. And so if you want to

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of course, the city of Green Bay and the city of D.P.

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but then Alloway, Ashwavana, and Bellevue.

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And those services cover all of those areas.

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And so the on-demand service has really come into play

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with portions of Green Bay, but with all of D.P.

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and in a lot of Bellevue and portions of Alloway and Ashwavana as well.

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And so it really has allowed, we've redesigned

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to that system, to utilize the outskirt area

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to be that on-demand service and really funnel people

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in to transfer points to utilize the fixed route.

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So in any of those areas where ridership is high

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and we see that high demand, we really

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want to be bringing people into utilize those buses to do that.

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So with that, if you want to go to the next,

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a lot of people I will say, when we went through this transition

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and I know I've talked to many folks as we went through this,

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there were a lot of questions, completely new system.

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And so a lot of people were very confused by this

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And a lot of people that first reaction was, and I promise my kids did not draw this picture.

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And so, but a lot of, you know, people kept saying, oh my gosh, she took away the bus.

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And truly, the bus is the traditional 35-40 foot bus is gone.

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I will tell you I have other areas that want all on-demand service like the city of D.P.

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here as well, so because it's really a sweet system.

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And so we really expanded that a lot since we, the initial, because we really did a pilot

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first and we continue to expand that and so you know when people say you know I just can't

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go where I used to be able to go. This is a map that Brown County planning had put together.

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This is truly places you can go just on and did my on-demand service without utilizing

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the fixed route at all. You can travel you know from those zones so it just to give in an

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example you know for say civil hop school they utilize our services quite a bit. If they were

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wanting to go out to say NWTC area or that Walmart area,

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those types of things, they can really just take

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micro transit from here to there.

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Instead of taking out a bus, going down to the transit center,

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transferring and then taking another bus out to Walmart.

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So there's a lot of different options.

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They can really transfer amongst those zones.

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So there is a learning curve.

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So I think that we've been really fortunate

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to work with Brown County Planning and we

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have a full-time coordinator that she

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release, that's what she does.

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She goes around, she does tons of presentations at all different agencies and schools and groups

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and really teaches them how to utilize all the modes of transportation.

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The on-demand service has really been a huge benefit with our paratransit.

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If you see numbers that go through and we'll talk a little bit about that paratransit has

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really declined in cost and numbers and one of the biggest reasons for that is that

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people are able to use the on-demand service and it's much more cost-effective.

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even for a disabled client to utilize on demand.

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So, you know, for an on demand if you're an elderly or disabled person and you are purchasing a 30 day pass at 29 dollars,

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you can utilize that on the fixed row bus or you can utilize that on this demand service.

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So, it's unlimited rights for 30 days for 29 dollars.

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Paratransit for individuals that need to utilize that service, it's four dollars one way.

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So, if you're having to go to the doctor and back if a dollar is just for one trip and that's the cash fair and those are all regulated by the federal transit administration.

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So, expanding the micro transit zones are really beneficial for individuals that are able to utilize the micro transit service.

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They are all ADA accessible, so if you're using mobility devices and things like that, you still can use this service.

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And we do have some really neat things in place for individuals that have some challenges

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with utilizing that we put them on.

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It's kind of behind the scenes.

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We call it kind of like this wait list that we can put them on and really give them a

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door to our option versus a corner to corner which on demand usually ends up being.

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So I wanted to provide you all thank you.

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This is an overall for 2024 estimate for budget.

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Just wanted to share this.

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This is not concrete, so I don't run with this quite yet, but close.

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So this is overall, generally speaking, I've been with transit just about 20 years now and

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then, unfortunately, the number doesn't go up a whole lot, but I will tell you that.

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As you can see, we sit about a half million or so dollar budget and the federal in-state

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portion really covers the majority of our budget.

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The local share, which is covered by all of our pertinent communities, ends up being a little under 2.2 million, 2.1 actually on here.

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Just to kind of show you where these numbers come in, deep years estimate as about 140,000.

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Just so to give you all and just kind of how that works is we kind of estimate your portion and if we utilize all of our dollars.

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how transit works is we have to end zero every year, which I don't like.

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I'm sure you all like it. I think you just got to check right Larry.

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Is that a nice, very nice, probably?

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Yeah, 81,000.

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So, yeah, so it wasn't payable breaks, but anyway, so what ends up happening is transit needs to end at zero each year.

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And so when we get audited in the beginning of every year,

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any dollars that are left over are reimbursed to each community the same way they paid in.

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So if we end up, you know, coming in below budget that all benefits you all, we are not

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allowed to hang on to any of those dollars. So they all go back to the federal and state,

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which I tell you, we do use all of their money. So, but, you know, so that's kind of how that

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piece works, you know, pair transit and fuel ends up being the big two numbers that are always

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challenge in for us that we cannot control.

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Paratransly, you know, trips cannot be denied there.

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So we have no control over the number of those trips.

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And I sure you all would like to control fuel costs

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as much as I would.

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So those are really big, the two big numbers

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that can make us fluctuate quite a bit.

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In addition to the last couple of years,

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we've had some excess dollars that we've

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been able to utilize through some of the COVID funding,

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which is where you guys really see

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in a huge benefit back.

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So, a little bit on the on-demand, I really wanted to focus on some numbers because I'm sure

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I was going to ask that.

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So, just really who utilizes the on-demand for your community, you know, civil hop utilizes

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that a lot to the various areas that they go, they can really, you know, book that now by an app

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instead of having to utilize the fixed route service, which was typically an hour route.

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So they were always having to schedule around that.

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In addition, we do provide quite a few trips out to Walmart

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and to other employers in the community as well

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as to medical appointments.

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I did pull some data.

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This really goes from January one of this year to July 9th.

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And so one of the things that with the software that we have,

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we can really get specific on rides.

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So from deep here to 90 peer rides for,

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so this is strictly for the on demand service.

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Because once they get on to a fixed route,

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I mean they go all over and the fixed route

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is not in deep here, so I did not bring any of those numbers

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with, but for individuals that are in deep here

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that are going, that are coming to the peer from 90 peer area.

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So whether they're in L.A. or S.w.

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and then they're coming to your community.

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So for those first little over six months or so,

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that number is right around 2,500.

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it was like 24.96 is where that number sits. So for 90 peer community members, two non-depear community members, from

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DPR, you're looking at about 3,000. So it was about five little that. So approximately 3,000. And we can get specifically

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exactly where those rides are to if that information is ever requested. And then from individuals just

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in DPR, stay in DPR, that numbers write around 1,400.

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So that's kind of where what you see in this year so far.

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I will tell you that ridership we is continuously going up before the pandemic, Green Bay

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Metro averaged about 1.3 million rides per year.

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And that was really just period, you know, I'm sorry, just fixed road services.

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Now it's a little bit unique with the additional motor transit.

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So we're at about 800,000.

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We continue to see that number kind of climb.

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It's very different services now than what it was.

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We do meet on a monthly basis to discuss all of the on-demand

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ridership.

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I would tell you that every single month and for the last year,

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the numbers have just been set.

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How you're in how you're every single month.

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So we have not seen that down.

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It just continues to increase.

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I think one of the biggest things that we do get asked

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If we could get it there sooner, I will tell you that fixed route services is about 30 minutes.

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So for, you know, we're averaging about 12, 13 minutes right now, that's pretty good service.

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We can decrease that, but when we decrease that, that means we need to put more vehicles on the road, which of course, you know, comes to cost.

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So we do try to have a really close, you know, really cautious balance to that.

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All right, and so with that, I'm happy to take any questions.

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I can stay and talk all night long if you'd like, but I'm happy to answer any questions.

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Sure, they love that.

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All right, we'll take in.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All the person rash.

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Yeah, and I appreciate you coming back.

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I did.

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I mean, I requested that we just go to an update.

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I'm just hearing some things in the community about how this works and it's not the

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lots of it.

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I'm sure you hear some of those things as well.

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I do.

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So I do appreciate you bringing this up and sharing a lot of your

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numbers. That helps. I mean, so if you look at those numbers, you're talking close to almost

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7,000 rides just from the beginning of the year in and out of it and around it and

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disappear, so that's pretty good. I appreciate the response of this. It was on my questions.

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So being 13 minutes, some of the things I've heard is it takes a long time for the microbust

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to show up. And then I guess my question is the kind of outreach in the community to help

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people understand this better, I know it's hard to do, but if there's more of that, that

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can be done obviously, it's appreciated.

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The app, how does the app work?

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Is it like an Uber type of thing where you're just making the request and then they'll tell you one that person is going to show up or how does that?

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It's just like you can see your vehicle. You can see your response time. I will tell you that I personally use it in the evening for dinners, just because it's my way home then.

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And so I will tell you that I will, I can go in. I can book that trip. I will see one vehicle that's going to be here in 23 minutes and I can see one that will be here in five minutes.

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And then you can select what action works for you.

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Now, because that driver may be on break, that driver might just be dropping somebody else off.

453
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,660
So, you know, what I always tell people is, if you see a high response, I would tell you to go back in and rebook.

454
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,440
Every time that, you know, in the beginning, I will tell you we had a lot of questions,

455
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:47,920
because this is a completely different service for our community.

456
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,320
I will tell you that the on-demand service that Gremay Metro did is the first and the state of Wisconsin for micro transit.

457
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,800
It's a very completely different for our folks, and I will tell you that every time somebody

458
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,620
makes a trip, I can go in, I can see exactly where they were when they booked that trip.

459
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,060
Sometimes they're not in the zone, which those are things that over the past two years,

460
00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:11,840
we've really kind of tweaked that.

461
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,160
And we can adjust that.

462
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,980
That's easy stuff for us to adjust, you know, back in the day of fixed route, when you say,

463
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,820
okay, hey, we have a new employer and we really need to reach out to this employer.

464
00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:25,040
But that's challenging to be able to extend a fixed route.

465
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,340
With microtransit, we can make those modifications very easily in expand service.

466
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,340
And so, honestly, I don't get a lot of complaints that are have been validated.

467
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Sometimes it's really individuals learning how to use it in booking their trip.

468
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:49,880
The on-demand has really given us the ability to extend and provide longer services.

469
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:58,960
You know, where we would never, right now one day through Friday we operate until 1130 we would never be able to provide transportation services that late and not that there's a high demand

470
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,220
But there are people that do need to get to third shift employment and those types of things

471
00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:08,460
And so that's an option and for us to provide that at a lot less cost than what we've been able to.

472
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,740
So Andrea is our mobility coordinator. She is out all over at various agencies.

473
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840
I'm more than happy to get her connected up with anybody.

474
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,840
She meets people individually in the communities to go and teach them how to book their

475
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,160
rides.

476
00:32:25,180 --> 00:32:26,540
She'll meet them out at their staff.

477
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,060
Help them do all of those things.

478
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:30,160
She is at all sorts.

479
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:37,800
She has ongoing standard meetings monthly with human service, agencies and all sorts of things.

480
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,620
So I'm happy to get her connected up with anything.

481
00:32:39,820 --> 00:32:42,700
I did bring some information to you because I figured there would be some questions

482
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:43,620
on how to do that.

483
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:46,380
But our website is a great tool.

484
00:32:46,380 --> 00:32:48,980
It really goes through how to set that up.

485
00:32:49,180 --> 00:32:50,080
There's videos on there.

486
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,500
So there's a lot of really neat things.

487
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880
So I would say if there's anybody that do have some

488
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,800
any challenges, please connect them up with me

489
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,600
because we want to make sure we can help with that.

490
00:32:58,940 --> 00:33:01,800
OK, and then real quick, one quick question

491
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,620
will be a little bit longer.

492
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:04,440
And how many vehicles in the micro transit?

493
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,700
We have 12.

494
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:09,620
That's one of the unique things is that we use the same fleet

495
00:33:09,620 --> 00:33:12,180
from micro transit that we do with our paratransit.

496
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:16,100
and so that's really given us the benefit to keep those numbers down.

497
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:21,100
Okay, I think one of the confusing pieces for some people is the zones.

498
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,460
You might book your right, but you're not in the zone.

499
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920
So you have to then walk to the zone area to take up, right?

500
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:27,440
Correct.

501
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,420
And so that can be challenging.

502
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,540
And when we first did this, that was one of our discussions.

503
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:35,400
We didn't want to just have this huge open area.

504
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:39,520
And then all of a sudden have all this demand for these rides.

505
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,660
And then how do we pay for it?

506
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,340
How do we be able to manage that?

507
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:45,140
And so we were very cautious

508
00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:48,980
and we've been expanding as time goes on to make sure

509
00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:51,900
that I mean, I think the goal is to stay within

510
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,980
everybody's budgets and without an increase

511
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:56,720
and we've really tried to focus on that

512
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,860
if not reduce the local shares.

513
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,200
And so there's a balance in how we do that.

514
00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:09,180
And I think that we can, if there's areas that need service,

515
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:17,020
You know, we're developing areas and those types of things adding on demand is something that's very easily for us to be able to do that.

516
00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:22,260
Okay. Thank you. Thank you all the person, Hanson. Just a little more on the zones.

517
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:29,360
So like liable street in the brew and street are a no-order, that's the right terminology.

518
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:37,460
So even though that's outside of zone three, the blue area on the map, they can go directly there anytime.

519
00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:38,480
Is that how that works?

520
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Yes, they can go to any of those areas that are blue.

521
00:34:43,580 --> 00:34:50,320
Now, the reason why you see select areas is because we based all of this on where we solve

522
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960
ridership being utilized.

523
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Instead of saying, okay, we're going to cover the whole city of DPR because then all of a sudden

524
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,060
there's, that's going to be an increase in numbers, and I can tell you 12 vehicles would

525
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:01,060
not meet our demand.

526
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,160
So we really, when we first implemented this mode of transit, we wanted to make sure that we were

527
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,720
servicing those that we're already using transit and where we saw people utilizing it.

528
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,860
That's where all this is all data driven.

529
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,180
This is all where we saw people utilizing services.

530
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:21,260
So our goal to start with was not to expand.

531
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,660
It was really to make sure that we were meeting the current needs and we could go forward

532
00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:26,800
from there.

533
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,800
So again, we picked up and dropped off anywhere in the zones or in any of those nodes.

534
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,360
Correct.

535
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,560
And typically what ends up happening is it will shoot you to a corner.

536
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,300
And the reason is, is because we run on time, right?

537
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:42,160
We don't want to have drivers driving up and down the street trying to look for a certain address.

538
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,620
So if you live in the middle of the block, it's going to shoot you to the corner to tell

539
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:46,720
you to get picked up there.

540
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:51,680
Again, for individuals that have disabilities, we can arrange that to make sure that

541
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,720
that's dota dora for you.

542
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,060
And then we talked about this in January at a constituent part of this park.

543
00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:01,360
He lives 1.7 miles from the high school, so he doesn't qualify for the bus thing.

544
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,720
I just wanted to if you can talk a little bit more about kind of the reasoning behind

545
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:11,320
Not bringing people to the schools. I know it's probably too much demand and then also he was requesting right now

546
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,240
The zone two ends on Webster

547
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:19,140
He would like to see that push for other east to live will street because then you could still get dropped off there and walk to the schools

548
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,420
Is that something that can be considered or so that is on our list?

549
00:36:23,740 --> 00:36:31,460
We actually we do get quite a few requests and I will tell you that we have a we have a committee that looks at these on a regular basis

550
00:36:31,460 --> 00:36:34,320
There's some behind the scenes stuff that has to happen for us from

551
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,440
a software perspective. I always think it can happen in five minutes, but they do tell me it

552
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,020
takes a little bit more than that. So we do have a few items on the list, and I can double

553
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:48,360
check, but I'm almost positive that one is on that list for that to happen in our next score

554
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,960
around. We don't want to constantly be changing this once a month or something like that. So we

555
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,060
really try to focus on maybe two or three times a year is what we're going to try to be doing,

556
00:36:57,220 --> 00:37:00,940
but I'm almost positive, and I can respond back to you to make sure that I do think that one is on

557
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:07,220
at least. Back to the school, we do not want to flood the service with providing students

558
00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:11,040
to school. I mean, typically, that's where your school bus comes in because I will tell

559
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,500
you that if we started servicing school, I mean, we would not be able to meet the demand

560
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:20,480
and provide any other service at that time, because kids are going to want to take that

561
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,360
on-demand service there. And typically, at those times, I will tell you, like the CPE

562
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,880
center is, you know, we have a time period from about 730 to 9, that is just probably all

563
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,300
of our vehicles are tied up there.

564
00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:37,860
You know, so we really want to be cautious of that and we're not, we don't want to replace

565
00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:44,020
or take the spot of a school bus service in any means, but we definitely want to make sure

566
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:45,420
we're meeting the other demands.

567
00:37:46,060 --> 00:37:49,780
And one more quick, since we don't have any more fixed routes, I'm just wondering why we still

568
00:37:49,780 --> 00:37:53,120
have some of those bus stop signs in the city.

569
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:58,160
If you do, please let me know and I will have them remove.

570
00:37:58,420 --> 00:38:02,820
They probably were just missed when they were removed because they all should have been removed.

571
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,100
A couple of shelter still remain because that is where people will utilize yet for the on-demand service,

572
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,320
but if there are the signs themselves should be removed.

573
00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,140
So if you do see them let me know when I can send our crew.

574
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:16,160
Okay, thanks.

575
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:17,160
All good.

576
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:18,260
Other questions are coming.

577
00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:19,360
All the person live enough.

578
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,480
Can you remind me how do people have to have a smartphone

579
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,020
to book a ride. They do not. You can't call. So it is all completely

580
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:32,560
88 accessible. Our paratransit service individuals always had to call to

581
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,760
schedule paratransit for the disabled. That's a requirement for us from the federal

582
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,180
transit administration. So a phone option is always an option even for individuals

583
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:45,400
if they get on the bus. Because the way our services design, you really kind of

584
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,120
in order to cover all of the communities. You're really being, you know, you're

585
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,460
utilizing microtransit and fixed out. If you get on any of the buses,

586
00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:56,240
you can, there's a phone on those buses that you can utilize to book your right as well.

587
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,660
That's all free program.

588
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:58,940
Thank you.

589
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Okay.

590
00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:00,860
All the person gets?

591
00:39:01,660 --> 00:39:03,080
I have a couple of questions.

592
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:03,740
Sure.

593
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:10,300
Can they take the on demand any time or only when the fixed roads are not running?

594
00:39:11,380 --> 00:39:15,200
So the on demand service is limited to the zones.

595
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,660
If fixed route service is operating.

596
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,900
If fixed route service is not operating,

597
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:22,800
then it is system-wide.

598
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:25,460
And so, in the reason for that is,

599
00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:27,940
is because we operate fixed-road service,

600
00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:31,040
when we see, when the data tells us

601
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,100
that there's a lot of numbers,

602
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,300
and I'll give you an example,

603
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,260
and I just, I use the example of Walmart on West Mason Street.

604
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,340
Okay, we average about 24 people per hour on that route.

605
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,900
I could never meet that demand with micro transit.

606
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,360
And so, when we see heavily utilized areas,

607
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,240
that's where we really focus on the fixed-road service.

608
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,560
And so when we introduce this mode of transportation,

609
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:55,240
we actually reduce all the fixed route frequency

610
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:56,540
to 30 minute frequency.

611
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,140
And that is very good frequency in our area.

612
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,980
This is not Chicago.

613
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,220
I'm sorry, it's not every 10 minutes,

614
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,100
but 30 minutes is the best we can do.

615
00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:09,680
So that really gives that those individuals options

616
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,240
at those transfer points, that buses

617
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:12,520
are going to be there every 30 minutes,

618
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,360
if you're switching from one mode to the other.

619
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,800
But at night, 645 at night is where we saw numbers

620
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:26,560
greatly decline. That is why 645 PM to 1130 PM, it's system wide. And then on Saturdays again,

621
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:32,820
745 in the morning till 145 fixed route is utilized. So you kind of need the both depending

622
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:38,620
where you're going, but after 145 and until 645 is all micro transit.

623
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:48,420
Thank you. Is it easy to buy a bus pass for people? Do they have to go to the transit office?

624
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:54,100
can they do it online? They can do it online. We have an e-fair app. They can do it in the app when they

625
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:59,260
book their ride. And when you get on the on-demand vehicle, you can purchase as well. So you can do cash,

626
00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:01,280
you can do credit card, you can set up an account.

627
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,800
Do you try to organize the on-demand routes like

628
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,480
sometimes Uber says we're not going to be there in 10 minutes. We're going to be there in 15 because we're

629
00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:20,280
It's all, it is a shared right service, and so it is all done by software, so we actually,

630
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:27,540
the company that we contract right now is via, they are a national company, this is what they specialize in,

631
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,120
so that it all ties in, and so that's why I say when somebody books a trip sometimes, you know,

632
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:37,760
I've been at places where I book a trip and it'll say 23 minutes and I'd be like, I don't want to wait that long,

633
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,820
and I come out of it and go right back in and then I'll have a three minute option and so it

634
00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:47,900
just truly depends and you can see those vehicles right on there and so you can pick your

635
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:55,100
options so. Do you help people download the ass if they don't know how can they call in and get

636
00:41:55,100 --> 00:42:01,080
help? They can if they can come to transit or Andrea is happy to go out and meet and she will help

637
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,920
people download it she will help you set it up she can get your favorite trips put right in there

638
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,180
So it's all said and then usually through that process a lot of times is where, you know,

639
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:14,660
we can make those decisions if we see there's some extra help that is needed for the

640
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:18,920
writer that we can kind of put some parameters in there to make that booking option easier

641
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,320
for them as well.

642
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:20,900
Thank you.

643
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,240
And last question, do you go to the airport?

644
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,000
We do.

645
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:26,200
We do.

646
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:27,820
And the cost.

647
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:34,260
So if you are utilizing the on-demand service, it's two dollars one way.

648
00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:52,220
Currently to the end of the year, there is a reduced fair 30 day pass, which is unlimited for fixed route or on-demand service, and that passes typically $29, there's been a $20 reduction, so yes it is $9 for 30 days for the remainder of the year, and that's due to some additional funding that came in.

649
00:42:52,380 --> 00:43:01,600
For adults, the typical adult 30 day passes is $39, and that is now 19 for the remainder of the year. So I would say stack up on your passes before anywhere you want.

650
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,240
Thank you.

651
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:04,180
You're very welcome.

652
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:05,100
All the first encounter.

653
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,880
You offer services on Sunday.

654
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Currently, no.

655
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,540
And I will tell you, in my time we never have.

656
00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:15,960
And so that's probably one of the most requested thing that comes up when we do surveys

657
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,320
is Sunday service.

658
00:43:17,660 --> 00:43:23,200
I will tell you that what traditionally fixed route is what we have for options until we

659
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,500
introduce this mode of transit.

660
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,660
This is something that we are currently working on our five-year TDP at this point, our transit

661
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:30,400
development plan.

662
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,660
that has come up quite a bit.

663
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:35,280
I think this additional mode of transportation

664
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,120
definitely opens the door for us to consider

665
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,900
because we can really control the time, right?

666
00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:43,560
If we want to try it from eight to one and see how it goes,

667
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:47,380
I've been very open from the get go of this.

668
00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:50,620
A baby stepping things because we don't want to,

669
00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:52,940
all of a sudden, I don't think Larry would appreciate

670
00:43:52,940 --> 00:43:55,080
if I call them up until them has bill doubled.

671
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,300
And any means, so, right?

672
00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:59,620
Or is that good?

673
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:01,720
Oh, they would, of course.

674
00:44:03,860 --> 00:44:06,500
So we've really been cautious on that so we can control.

675
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:07,720
Because I think we all know, right?

676
00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:09,240
Once we put something out, it's very difficult

677
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,660
to take things back.

678
00:44:10,820 --> 00:44:13,520
And so we really want to make sure we're living within the means

679
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,040
and all of those things.

680
00:44:15,340 --> 00:44:19,980
So I think it's very realistic for that to be in the, in the near future.

681
00:44:20,220 --> 00:44:21,480
And the reason I ask is because

682
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,140
these people that needed a ride during the week to go to work

683
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:27,680
still a lot of places are open on Sunday.

684
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,080
you know, I mean that they need to get the work. And that's why I'm asking. Thank you.

685
00:44:31,420 --> 00:44:35,200
Yes, absolutely. And I would tell you traditionally with fixed road service pre-pandemic,

686
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,780
it would typically cost about $150,000 per hour to add fixed road service, which is why

687
00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:46,680
it never ran on Saturdays. Or I'm sorry, on Sundays, in very limited on Saturdays with the

688
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,960
on-demand service. I mean, it is tremendously less than that. So it really gives us the ability

689
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,940
to look at those things. Thank you. All their person rash follow up. You get one. Yeah, just just fun.

690
00:44:58,380 --> 00:44:59,160
It'll be a quick comment.

691
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,240
Do you ever consolidate writers on the microtransit? So in other words, you've got two people pick up the same

692
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:09,140
no-it or same location, going in a general same direction. Does that ever happen?

693
00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:14,080
So we do it. It is a shared-vited service. And so can have up to six individuals

694
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:19,680
is what we have it kept that. We have not had issues with that. I will tell you, our goal is

695
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,360
really to be, we want to be able to average all day long three at a time. That's really our goal.

696
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,980
just from a cost perspective, but it can be shared right.

697
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,760
It just really depends, and I will tell you,

698
00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:32,440
those that utilize public transportation

699
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,140
tend to learn this, like the back of their hand.

700
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:37,260
They know when it's the busy time, when it is not,

701
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,740
and how to maneuver things around, and so it's been great.

702
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,100
You know, I know it's been a learning curve for some folks,

703
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:49,520
and a huge learning curve for the residents of the city of DPR.

704
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,440
And so we have focused a lot on radio and advertising,

705
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:59,000
in all different things in this area specifically because of that because I do know that's the

706
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,840
image right is there's no bus so people are like okay there's no bus service and there is

707
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,520
it's just it's different and so changes always a challenge sometimes.

708
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:13,500
Thank you other questions and I'm assuming we're not going to touch on the sign reserves for any extra

709
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,440
cost, correct?

710
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:16,500
I'd like to date.

711
00:46:16,660 --> 00:46:17,140
Not to date.

712
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:17,600
Not to date.

713
00:46:18,380 --> 00:46:18,780
Okay.

714
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,600
Any $1,000.

715
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:22,520
81,000.

716
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:22,960
81,000.

717
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,260
81,000.

718
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,920
I will say that I got an email to their phone call from a resident, which I get periodically,

719
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,300
or everything.

720
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:31,720
And then regarding the transit system, and I just forward it to Patty, and then they handle it.

721
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:32,680
So she does a great job with that.

722
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,500
I already responded to that.

723
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:36,720
I actually wanted, I think the question was kind of similar to something that you all have been talking about.

724
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:37,800
Yeah.

725
00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:39,860
Patty will say, you don't hesitate to reach out to hers.

726
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,240
Yes.

727
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:40,700
Absolutely.

728
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:45,580
And I will tell you the biggest thing is that when you look at these zones and you see

729
00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:49,720
that line where it ends, if somebody's on the opposite side of the road, it's going to

730
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:50,800
tell them they're out of zone.

731
00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:54,000
So then people kind of freak out and they're like, oh my gosh, I have no service.

732
00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:58,480
And it's like, so we really do try to make sure we're covering both sides of those, but this

733
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,680
is technology, right?

734
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,060
So sometimes we've got to tweak things a little bit, but sometimes, especially in the beginning

735
00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:07,780
because maybe one side of whatster was in and that the other and if they were standing a

736
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:10,280
little bit off and they were booking because it uses your GPS.

737
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,780
It'd be like you're out of the zone because you truly were.

738
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,980
So we had a lot of that tweaking to do as we went through it.

739
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:17,940
So some of those things are very easy for you too.

740
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:19,980
So you're very responsible, so I appreciate that.

741
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:20,580
Absolutely.

742
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,620
Any other questions or comments?

743
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:24,360
Again, I'll be half of all of us.

744
00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:25,120
Thank you very much.

745
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,920
So thank you, Patty.

746
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:26,300
Perfect.

747
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:29,200
I'll leave some of this information and so if there's anything I can do, let me know.

748
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:29,740
Thank you.

749
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:30,020
Okay.

750
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,860
All right.

751
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,780
Up next.

752
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:34,840
Item nine.

753
00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:38,440
Presentation by staff GIS analyst, Kristen Vincent.

754
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,860
on Leadership Green Bay Orchard Project.

755
00:47:41,140 --> 00:47:41,780
It's all yours.

756
00:47:52,590 --> 00:47:52,850
All right.

757
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:54,110
Thank you.

758
00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:55,210
Hi everyone.

759
00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:56,510
I'm excited to be here.

760
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:58,350
Again, my name is Kristen.

761
00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:00,390
I'm a GIS analyst with the city.

762
00:48:00,910 --> 00:48:06,050
I recently completed a nine-month professional development program called Leadership Green Bay.

763
00:48:06,750 --> 00:48:14,590
And when I was talking with Larry about the program, he thought this would be a good opportunity to come and share with y'all information about Leadership Green Bay.

764
00:48:14,650 --> 00:48:16,390
What I learned and what I accomplished.

765
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:23,310
So, I was spent about 10 or so minutes talking about the program for those that are unfamiliar with it.

766
00:48:23,530 --> 00:48:28,690
Talking about the small group project portion of Leadership Green Bay, and then towards the end,

767
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:32,950
I will circle back to Depir and talk about potential impacts for this community.

768
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:38,970
So, Leadership Green Bay is a program of the Greater Green Bay Chamber.

769
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:41,470
It was started in 1985.

770
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:44,050
My class was the 39 class.

771
00:48:44,050 --> 00:48:47,290
We are all pictured there at one of our session days.

772
00:48:47,410 --> 00:48:50,850
They were about 40 or so in the class this year.

773
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:53,030
It was one of the largest classes.

774
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:57,370
The program consists of monthly session days,

775
00:48:57,670 --> 00:49:01,630
which involved speakers coming in or even us going out

776
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:06,610
into the community and learning about different aspects,

777
00:49:06,810 --> 00:49:08,190
different pros and cons in the community.

778
00:49:08,870 --> 00:49:10,550
Session days had different themes,

779
00:49:10,810 --> 00:49:13,530
whether it was government day, economic development day,

780
00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:19,390
Human Services Day, things like that, we meet once a month, and focus on a different theme,

781
00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:25,650
and just have this greater awareness for things that are good and bad that are going on in our community.

782
00:49:26,350 --> 00:49:32,910
And in overarching aspect of the program is what I call a small group community service project.

783
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:38,030
So we were divided into smaller teams. This is my team here.

784
00:49:38,030 --> 00:49:42,870
And we were tasked with identifying something in the community.

785
00:49:43,090 --> 00:49:44,950
We thought that we could help improve.

786
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:49,630
And we were in charge of identifying a project, fundraising,

787
00:49:50,610 --> 00:49:53,910
and implementing the project and seeing it through to completion.

788
00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:59,310
So as you can see there from all of our job titles and our employers,

789
00:50:00,050 --> 00:50:01,530
we have a lot of different skill sets.

790
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:05,590
We come from various backgrounds, so it was really fun working with my team

791
00:50:05,590 --> 00:50:10,770
and learning about them and working on really exciting project with them.

792
00:50:11,570 --> 00:50:14,610
So, before I dive more into our small group project,

793
00:50:15,450 --> 00:50:18,610
I just wanted to take a few minutes and talk about the takeaways that I had

794
00:50:18,610 --> 00:50:21,090
from the different session days.

795
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:26,510
And I think one of the biggest things I learned was just this general awareness

796
00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:28,970
of everything that's happening in the community.

797
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:34,430
And a lot of that was because of the hands-on learning from going to places.

798
00:50:34,430 --> 00:50:40,410
So those pictures there are from different different events that we attended and just going

799
00:50:40,410 --> 00:50:46,610
into some of these different spaces, the Wanda Style Town Tech, or at Green Bay City Hall.

800
00:50:47,630 --> 00:50:52,590
And it wasn't just in Green Bay, we visited places all over Brown County, so just as general

801
00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:57,970
awareness of what's going on in the community and not necessarily the bad, but also the

802
00:50:57,970 --> 00:51:02,070
good and what other people are doing to help the community.

803
00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:08,090
Another main takeaway from the program to me was what we called our community giving

804
00:51:08,090 --> 00:51:08,570
days.

805
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:15,130
So this was just had a really big impact on me because I realized that by doing something

806
00:51:15,130 --> 00:51:17,990
so small you could have a really big impact.

807
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:24,750
So what I mean by that is for our community giving days every month a different team was

808
00:51:24,750 --> 00:51:29,970
tasked with identifying an organization that they wanted to donate to, whether it was books

809
00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:35,410
or canned food items. And our class was then tasked with bringing in items, whatever we were

810
00:51:35,410 --> 00:51:41,910
comfortable with, whatever we were able to bring in. And then that team was then donate those

811
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:46,350
items to that organization of their choosing. And it was fun every session day to watch as

812
00:51:46,350 --> 00:51:52,630
people were coming in for the day, the pile of items would start to grow. And it was just really

813
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:57,030
really interesting and really neat to see just how something so small could turn into something

814
00:51:57,030 --> 00:52:01,330
so big and you can actually see the positive impacts

815
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:02,650
that we are having on the community.

816
00:52:04,310 --> 00:52:07,730
So now I will turn to focusing more on our small group project.

817
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:11,450
So, I like I mentioned earlier

818
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:15,090
that the picture that I showed with the nine people

819
00:52:15,090 --> 00:52:17,590
that was my team five, my team.

820
00:52:17,890 --> 00:52:21,270
When we first met, we're trying to decide

821
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:22,570
what our common interests were.

822
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:23,970
We're trying to find a common ground.

823
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:25,270
We didn't know each other,

824
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:32,770
so we are still trying to, you know, just break the ice and networking, but we learn that

825
00:52:32,770 --> 00:52:35,290
we are all interested in sustainability and the environment.

826
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:40,710
And we thought that that would be a really good angle to go for our small group project as

827
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:43,070
part of the larger leadership Green Bay program.

828
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:47,970
And through leadership Green Bay, we learned of an organization called New Leaf Foods.

829
00:52:47,970 --> 00:52:54,510
And we learned about their urban food force initiatives and their mission to

830
00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:56,670
a mission for food security.

831
00:52:57,530 --> 00:53:01,130
And once we learned about them and got to talking with their team, we realized that they

832
00:53:01,130 --> 00:53:07,370
would be a really good, I guess, nonprofit partner, you could say, or our group project.

833
00:53:07,630 --> 00:53:09,950
And we wanted to help them, we wanted to help advance their mission.

834
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:16,230
And then it was also something that was, that was really personal to us, given our common interests.

835
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:22,170
So, we work with them and decided that an urban orchard would be a really good group project.

836
00:53:22,250 --> 00:53:27,770
Something that was really important, something that was feasible, something that we could tackle,

837
00:53:28,090 --> 00:53:32,350
and also something that was new to all of us, but yet fit within our goals.

838
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:39,790
So, one aspect of leadership Green Bay is that our project beneficiary could not be related to our employer,

839
00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:45,590
so we had to find a neutral party and that ended up being the Green Bay Area Public School District.

840
00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:56,570
We worked with their team and they helped us identify school, Chapel Elementary School that would be a good recipient of an orchard.

841
00:53:58,570 --> 00:54:13,270
And thinking about the space that they have and talking with their administration, we decided that six fruit trees would be an ideal project scope as well as various other pollinator plants.

842
00:54:14,850 --> 00:54:25,750
So we had this plan in place, we decided on a number of trees, but then and we had a place as well a place in mind what we needed the funds for it.

843
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:42,530
So that was, this was a really interesting angle of leadership agreement that I, and a different skill set that I wasn't expecting to gain was the idea of fundraising and grant writing and budgeting and I did not have many skills in that going into it or especially at this scale.

844
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:45,730
So that was really interesting process.

845
00:54:45,850 --> 00:54:47,630
I know I have the word challenges on the screen,

846
00:54:47,630 --> 00:54:49,990
but really it's more of the learning curve.

847
00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:52,730
And learning, so we have newly foods

848
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:57,010
as our nonprofit partner, and then we have the school district

849
00:54:57,010 --> 00:55:00,190
who will be the beneficiary, and then we have our donors.

850
00:55:00,430 --> 00:55:02,190
So it's just connecting the dots of the pieces,

851
00:55:02,430 --> 00:55:04,470
making sure you have the right paperwork, the right forms,

852
00:55:04,850 --> 00:55:08,850
to get from donor to the beneficiary.

853
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:10,710
And our group was very fortunate

854
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:17,270
and that our donors all came from employers of my team members.

855
00:55:17,810 --> 00:55:23,310
So there were a few employers on our team that had either donated two leadership

856
00:55:23,310 --> 00:55:26,790
green bay in the past or they had grant windows that were open and the time

857
00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:31,010
we needed it to be open and we were very fortunate that they were very

858
00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:36,970
generous and we were able to source almost all of our donations through them.

859
00:55:36,970 --> 00:55:40,710
and we had, so then we had very, very positive outcomes with our fundraising.

860
00:55:42,550 --> 00:55:47,890
So, like I mentioned, Chapel Elementary School was a recipient of our orchard, and it was really

861
00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:54,390
great working with their team, and also working with the new leaf team, figurine, deciding where to

862
00:55:54,390 --> 00:56:00,170
source the trees, how to get them shipped to the school, and the school district helped

863
00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:06,790
receive the, receive the shipment, and water the trees until it was planting day.

864
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:14,570
And the pictures below you can see it was, it was a very successful day, like his first grade class got to help with the planting.

865
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:22,350
They had their little shovels and the parents were invited to come and have a picnic lunch with the students,

866
00:56:22,530 --> 00:56:26,510
and they had the school set up other different activities related to planting.

867
00:56:26,890 --> 00:56:36,030
So it was really rewarding to be a part of that and to see that and to see how excited they were and help them be hands on in this process.

868
00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:44,430
And I'm not sure if you can tell or not in those pictures, but the trees are a little bit larger than you might expect for starting in orchard.

869
00:56:44,970 --> 00:56:53,770
And that was intentional. So one of the requests was that we purchased more mature fruit trees that might produce fruit within a year or two.

870
00:56:53,770 --> 00:57:09,670
And that was so, it hopes that many of the students will still be at Chapel and will be able to see the tree actually produce fruit and then be able to understand the life cycle and the process from being planting to producing this fruit.

871
00:57:10,590 --> 00:57:14,230
And I like I mentioned earlier, we had very successful outcomes to our fundraising.

872
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:17,970
So a few days later, we actually planted a second orchard.

873
00:57:18,530 --> 00:57:21,510
This is that redsmith also in the Green Bay School District,

874
00:57:22,110 --> 00:57:29,570
and we learned pretty early on that we might have funds to do a second orchard,

875
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:33,490
so we were able to cut down on shipping costs by having redsmith

876
00:57:33,790 --> 00:57:36,230
and chapel trees all delivered at the same time.

877
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:38,270
And again, the school district was really great

878
00:57:38,270 --> 00:57:42,010
and helping us take care of the trees over the weekend

879
00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:47,370
and making sure they were watered and taking care of until the planting day happened.

880
00:57:48,050 --> 00:57:49,810
And this then was with the middle schoolers.

881
00:57:49,970 --> 00:57:55,530
They were helping us plant the trees there and it was really fun, the principal grabbed

882
00:57:55,530 --> 00:58:01,230
a shovel and he was digging right along with us and at both schools the principal's administration.

883
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:05,470
They were all very helpful and very excited and very appreciative.

884
00:58:06,030 --> 00:58:08,870
So it was super, super rewarding experience.

885
00:58:10,070 --> 00:58:13,670
And our project actually is continuing on.

886
00:58:13,810 --> 00:58:19,190
We do have funds to plan two to three more orchards of the same scope, which is roughly six

887
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:19,790
fruit trees.

888
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:21,470
So big thank you again to our donors.

889
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:30,290
Our group plans to pick up talks again in August for identifying sites and identifying a timeline.

890
00:58:31,130 --> 00:58:36,630
We'd like to either plan later this fall, if possible, or into next spring, it all depends

891
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:40,870
on the beneficiary, what works best for them, if it's a school, they'd like to have the

892
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:47,370
students involved, and also what's best for the trees and what we're able to source

893
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:48,830
at the different times of year.

894
00:58:50,910 --> 00:58:54,290
So now as I start to wrap up, I want to take a few minutes

895
00:58:54,290 --> 00:59:00,170
and talk about potential to peer impacts. So first from a personal level, a big thank you

896
00:59:00,170 --> 00:59:06,330
to Mayor, Larry, and all of you for supporting such professional development opportunities as these,

897
00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:10,490
I gained so many more skills than I ever imagined.

898
00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:16,390
I know I had certain goals going into the program and I obtain those goals and then some.

899
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:20,610
And it was also great using my resources and connections that I have here.

900
00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:26,110
The city I know that I contacted multiple city staff members asking them for their advice.

901
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:30,350
How do you do that? How do you do that to have opinions on advice on this?

902
00:59:30,570 --> 00:59:35,390
And it was really great being able to take that advice and transfer it over to my team.

903
00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:40,150
and vice versa, then learning from their employers and their experiences and how to help us.

904
00:59:41,350 --> 00:59:44,950
And also through the program, I learned about multiple classmates who live in work

905
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:50,290
into peers, so it was really great talking to them, learning their connections and their experiences

906
00:59:50,290 --> 00:59:57,170
in the city. So one little side note is that one of my teammates actually works right across the bridge

907
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:59,970
and we didn't know that we worked so close to each other.

908
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,200
All there were like, oh, we could have carpooled through so many of these different events. So just having those connections and those experiences is really great.

909
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:14,240
But then thinking of more bigger picture of this idea of shared knowledge. So I know that the city does have an urban orchard team.

910
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:23,220
I know that my team would be more than happy to share our experiences with them or learn from that team's experiences as well.

911
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:31,980
And, you know, just this idea of a template for others to follow and creating, taking everything that we know and maybe creating a blueprint.

912
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,820
I know that in our talks with newly foods that that was one idea of creating this template,

913
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:46,360
or this, or document for other organizations and other people to follow if they do want to do a similar project,

914
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:51,180
I'm to help that run smoothly. And I think that could have a positive impact on the community.

915
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:56,880
So with that, my team would like to give a big thank you to the Green Bay Chamber and Leadership

916
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,260
Green Bay for having us in this program as well as newly foods for allowing us to work with

917
01:01:02,260 --> 01:01:08,240
them and to help them advance their mission as well as helping us with our project and the Green

918
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Bay School District for being a beneficiary of our orchard so far.

919
01:01:12,020 --> 01:01:17,740
And then also for me a big thank you to the City of Dupier for letting me be a part of this

920
01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:19,820
opportunities, professional development, opportunity.

921
01:01:20,860 --> 01:01:23,800
So with that, thank you, and I will take any questions.

922
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,240
Any questions, anybody?

923
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:27,400
All my personal rash.

924
01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:29,740
I think one of the, it's a good program, right?

925
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,400
I think one of the great things about it is that you also

926
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,460
join a network of other people that have graduated from the class

927
01:01:35,980 --> 01:01:39,440
that you can tap into, for example, Colleen, Matthews

928
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,620
on your group, I know her from other networking stuff.

929
01:01:43,020 --> 01:01:44,240
But I don't know how many other people

930
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,820
are graduates of Leadership Green Bay in the class besides myself.

931
01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:52,080
I thought, yeah, I thought, Shane, we were Dan, so what year were you?

932
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,460
Like 2015, I think?

933
01:01:53,540 --> 01:01:57,780
Yeah, I was a couple of years ahead of 2013, so you'll start to bump into people in time

934
01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,240
that have all gone through the program.

935
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:00,820
There's a lot of good stuff that came out of it.

936
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,540
I learned and met Mary Jane through actually leadership.

937
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,640
We all got to know her through history, right?

938
01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:09,600
Oh, I thought that was a very fast 1966 thing.

939
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,920
There's a very Jane.

940
01:02:12,740 --> 01:02:19,040
Yeah, anyway, so I you know, I appreciate the presentation. I think you guys did a great job

941
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,090
Nice project, but welcome to the alumni. Thank you

942
01:02:24,260 --> 01:02:26,060
Thank you other questions or comments

943
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:32,330
And all this is something that Larry champions for y'all to do this so it's very beneficial and I think it sounds like you really enjoyed it

944
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,610
And I appreciate you presenting this. Thank you Kristen. Thank you

945
01:02:36,340 --> 01:02:42,720
And one all good. Thank you very much. I think Dan's got a question. Oh damn I had one as Christians department head and

946
01:02:42,740 --> 01:02:47,960
and the GIS division being under the Development Services Department, Bill Boyle and I would

947
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,120
like to send a thank you to the Council for allowing Chris and to go through this process.

948
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:57,920
We witnessed her growth in a that ten-month timeframe, leave some balance to what we expected.

949
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:02,380
And so just watching here here today, kind of present, where she may have been a year ago,

950
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,300
I can tell you it was leave some balance, she was much more confident in the public speaking realm.

951
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,640
But just again, making the connections out going out going through that that process,

952
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,480
We've watched your sort of Leafs and Ballons grow and even in the project management side of it

953
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,440
If you're taking that step as well, so thank you to the council for allowing our staff to grow into their

954
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,960
roles. I think this is the point where you asked for a raise

955
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:26,700
Very high very high

956
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:35,060
Very high phrase. Thank you, Dan. Thank you again, Kristen

957
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:44,880
item 10. Recommendation from Plan Commission to approve an

958
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Exeteratorial 3-Lot Certified Survey Map at 1700 Williams Grant Drive

959
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,840
and Lawrence, parcel L169.

960
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,440
Oh, make a motion to approve.

961
01:03:55,940 --> 01:03:57,960
I'll second. Motion, I'll the person rash.

962
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,120
Second, I'll the person quickly, any comments or discussion?

963
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:05,600
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

964
01:04:06,060 --> 01:04:06,260
All right, aye.

965
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,800
Opposed? Motion carries, thank you.

966
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:16,000
Item 11, recommendation from Historic Preservation Commission to approve $3,000 a dollar proposal

967
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:22,540
from Jones sign for the design and printing of 55 individual historic district signs to be installed

968
01:04:22,540 --> 01:04:28,600
by property owners in and near the Manchin Street World War II defense homes Historic District

969
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,120
and Davis Wood Ranch Homes Historic District.

970
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,100
Wood Deproof.

971
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:33,600
Oh, second.

972
01:04:33,860 --> 01:04:37,980
Motion mail to person Hanson, second mail to person GANS, any discussion or comments?

973
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,120
All the person Hanson.

974
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:47,460
All the person led Vanessa House is in one of these districts and just wanted to be noted that we had to reject her request to have the plaques say

975
01:04:47,460 --> 01:04:54,300
Shayna led Vanessa House because we have to use the historic name. Sorry, I was joking

976
01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:59,120
Very fun for that. I won't be voting for this

977
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,160
You're abstaining

978
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,560
No conflict of interest

979
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,320
Can we get an attorney if you want that

980
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:15,280
You got your advice, you're okay. Other comments and other questions? Were you done?

981
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,340
Yeah. All right, that's said. We have a roll call vote.

982
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:20,960
All the person carpenter.

983
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,180
All right. Gantz.

984
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,240
I. Hansen.

985
01:05:23,260 --> 01:05:23,460
I.

986
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:24,300
Conninger.

987
01:05:24,540 --> 01:05:25,660
I. Ledverna. I.

988
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:26,420
P. Rock.

989
01:05:26,580 --> 01:05:26,880
I.

990
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:27,420
Whiggly.

991
01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:27,980
I.

992
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,080
Motion carries.

993
01:05:34,180 --> 01:05:34,660
Thank you.

994
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,340
Item 12.

995
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:37,820
Recommendation from the Board of Park Commissioners.

996
01:05:37,820 --> 01:05:41,580
to accept a 2,500-dollar donation from Greta Johnson

997
01:05:41,580 --> 01:05:43,800
to recreation scholarship fund.

998
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,700
Moved to approve?

999
01:05:44,940 --> 01:05:45,280
I'll second.

1000
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,720
Motion Malibu person, Lebanon.

1001
01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:49,840
Second Malibu person, Conagre, any discussion or comments?

1002
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:53,210
Seeing there is none.

1003
01:05:53,650 --> 01:05:55,610
All those in favor say aye.

1004
01:05:55,790 --> 01:05:56,130
All right.

1005
01:05:56,810 --> 01:05:57,410
Opposed?

1006
01:05:57,870 --> 01:05:58,710
Motion carries.

1007
01:05:58,910 --> 01:05:59,790
Thank you.

1008
01:06:00,050 --> 01:06:02,610
Item 13, recommendation from Board of Part Commissioners

1009
01:06:02,610 --> 01:06:05,890
to accept a 1,000-dollar donation from D.P. Rotary

1010
01:06:05,890 --> 01:06:07,310
for the summer carnival.

1011
01:06:07,310 --> 01:06:09,090
I'm not sure for you.

1012
01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:09,530
Second.

1013
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:10,730
Most milder person,

1014
01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:12,090
second of all the person,

1015
01:06:12,210 --> 01:06:12,430
rash,

1016
01:06:12,970 --> 01:06:14,230
any discussion or comments.

1017
01:06:16,030 --> 01:06:16,790
Seeing there is none,

1018
01:06:16,910 --> 01:06:17,850
all those in favor,

1019
01:06:18,190 --> 01:06:18,630
say aye.

1020
01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:20,390
Opposed?

1021
01:06:20,890 --> 01:06:21,650
Motion carries,

1022
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:22,610
thank you.

1023
01:06:22,830 --> 01:06:23,510
Item 14.

1024
01:06:24,250 --> 01:06:25,330
Recommendation from the

1025
01:06:25,330 --> 01:06:26,670
Finance and Personnel Committee

1026
01:06:26,670 --> 01:06:28,130
to accept donations to

1027
01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:29,730
fund therapy dog program

1028
01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:31,430
for the fire department.

1029
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:34,530
Motion milder person,

1030
01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:36,310
second of all the person,

1031
01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:39,350
really close you to. Any questions or comments?

1032
01:06:40,310 --> 01:06:41,250
Other person rash?

1033
01:06:41,610 --> 01:06:46,790
Yeah, I'm really struggling to accept this donation without actually getting a chance to meet the dog.

1034
01:06:48,470 --> 01:06:50,250
Well, I tell you to meet Stanley.

1035
01:06:51,110 --> 01:06:51,430
We are.

1036
01:06:52,030 --> 01:06:52,150
We are.

1037
01:06:52,410 --> 01:06:52,570
We are.

1038
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:52,930
We are.

1039
01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:04,650
We are.

1040
01:07:05,230 --> 01:07:07,850
We saw Stan Lee today in the office, we'll see him.

1041
01:07:08,070 --> 01:07:08,450
Quite often.

1042
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:10,590
He's always about.

1043
01:07:11,230 --> 01:07:12,010
We'll find.

1044
01:07:12,070 --> 01:07:13,650
He says it's a beer garden.

1045
01:07:14,670 --> 01:07:16,510
Any questions for Chief that you have?

1046
01:07:16,890 --> 01:07:18,490
I just wanted to see the dog.

1047
01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:19,270
I haven't had a chance.

1048
01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:21,210
The schedule's just too tight during the day.

1049
01:07:21,330 --> 01:07:23,030
Chief, would you like to say something then?

1050
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:24,450
If you'd like to introduce?

1051
01:07:24,550 --> 01:07:25,730
Yeah, I would like to introduce Stan Lee.

1052
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:28,390
Most of him should get before we kick off the program.

1053
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:33,310
Tammy and her team, set a goal of $10,000 to raise the fundraising, they far exceeded that goal.

1054
01:07:33,730 --> 01:07:36,810
At this point, she'd like to just turn over the funds and it is part of this.

1055
01:07:36,810 --> 01:07:39,710
I'm asking to have this just established and a regular call.

1056
01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:43,310
So as the bills come in for family, we just sort of pay them out of that account.

1057
01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:44,410
It's been amazing.

1058
01:07:44,790 --> 01:07:46,330
He's done some great work on our staff.

1059
01:07:46,450 --> 01:07:48,390
It's a great work throughout the entire city.

1060
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:52,110
We try to make at least a couple trips around all city city departments.

1061
01:07:52,370 --> 01:07:54,390
At least once a week, and here we per twice.

1062
01:07:54,610 --> 01:07:55,810
So he's spreading lots of goodwill.

1063
01:07:56,270 --> 01:07:57,530
And he's doing a real good job.

1064
01:07:57,530 --> 01:08:01,090
a lot of training, but it's so far so good.

1065
01:08:01,630 --> 01:08:02,170
Thank you.

1066
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:02,870
Questions?

1067
01:08:03,290 --> 01:08:04,190
Other person, Hanson.

1068
01:08:04,490 --> 01:08:06,690
So this is going to be very similar to the K9 Fund

1069
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:08,270
where it's just set aside specifically

1070
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:09,630
for ongoing.

1071
01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:10,390
It's Hanson.

1072
01:08:10,410 --> 01:08:11,010
Yes, yes.

1073
01:08:11,770 --> 01:08:12,790
I think it's Matthew clothes.

1074
01:08:12,830 --> 01:08:14,110
Do you know how long it is?

1075
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:15,210
Oh, I don't know how long it is.

1076
01:08:16,610 --> 01:08:17,630
I'll don't need to that.

1077
01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:21,350
Now we've got to pick the dogs off at first

1078
01:08:21,350 --> 01:08:22,730
and then Al has to match that.

1079
01:08:23,130 --> 01:08:23,870
I will follow through.

1080
01:08:25,010 --> 01:08:27,370
Other questions or comments, Tammy, thank you very much.

1081
01:08:27,370 --> 01:08:28,730
By the way, this is extremely generous.

1082
01:08:28,910 --> 01:08:29,670
You did a great job.

1083
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:30,930
All the person can't.

1084
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:34,290
I just want to tell you, thank you for getting all the fun together.

1085
01:08:35,150 --> 01:08:38,170
You did a great job, so thank you very much, I

1086
01:08:50,260 --> 01:08:51,300
thank you.

1087
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,620
And I still want them when you go on.

1088
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,060
Thank you.

1089
01:08:56,060 --> 01:08:56,660
Thank you.

1090
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,880
Other questions or comments?

1091
01:09:00,470 --> 01:09:03,570
Seeing there is none, all those in favor say aye.

1092
01:09:04,090 --> 01:09:04,250
Aye.

1093
01:09:05,290 --> 01:09:05,710
Opposed?

1094
01:09:06,510 --> 01:09:07,150
Motion carries.

1095
01:09:07,350 --> 01:09:07,710
Thank you.

1096
01:09:07,830 --> 01:09:08,110
It's official.

1097
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:08,610
No, Tammy.

1098
01:09:08,610 --> 01:09:10,190
Congratulations, thank you very much.

1099
01:09:10,870 --> 01:09:11,310
Thanks Chief.

1100
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,000
Next item, item 15.

1101
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:24,700
Recommendation from Finance Personnel Committee to approve the 2024 non-benefit eligible employees wage schedule.

1102
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:26,460
Move dear proof.

1103
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:27,360
I'll second.

1104
01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:30,380
Motion by all the person hands and second by all the person quickly.

1105
01:09:30,620 --> 01:09:31,720
Discussion or comments.

1106
01:09:34,660 --> 01:09:35,400
All the person rash.

1107
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:36,460
Just real quick.

1108
01:09:36,660 --> 01:09:38,120
How's the recruiting going forward?

1109
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,200
Is some of these positions.

1110
01:09:39,460 --> 01:09:41,100
I mean, we're in such a tight labor market.

1111
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,460
So, Tracy, you're going to handle that one?

1112
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:44,880
I'm going to handle that one, yeah.

1113
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:49,660
So, I mean, it's going to depend on which position you're looking at, you know, some

1114
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:52,520
of them are going to be very special to positions, so they're going to be a little bit harder

1115
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,820
to recruit for just because there are fewer employees out there.

1116
01:09:56,100 --> 01:10:00,000
When we went ahead and did the survey, we were kind of looking at what others were paying for

1117
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:00,800
these type of positions.

1118
01:10:00,900 --> 01:10:04,240
So, the ones that we're recommending, increasing were the ones that we were kind of lagging behind

1119
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:04,860
on.

1120
01:10:05,140 --> 01:10:08,920
So, we're not really seeing too many issues right now, anyway, and we're done okay.

1121
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:09,760
We're okay.

1122
01:10:10,060 --> 01:10:10,160
Yep.

1123
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:12,440
Thank you.

1124
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:12,920
Thank you.

1125
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,120
Other questions or comments?

1126
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:17,500
Don't see any.

1127
01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:18,180
That said.

1128
01:10:18,420 --> 01:10:19,300
Roll call vote, please.

1129
01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:20,620
Hold up person, GANS.

1130
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:22,080
Hansen?

1131
01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:22,380
Aye.

1132
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,140
Thundergur?

1133
01:10:23,420 --> 01:10:23,480
Aye.

1134
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:24,100
Leadman?

1135
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:24,520
Aye.

1136
01:10:24,820 --> 01:10:25,240
Perpander?

1137
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:25,480
Aye.

1138
01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:30,580
Motion carries.

1139
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,320
Thank you.

1140
01:10:31,780 --> 01:10:32,480
Item 16.

1141
01:10:32,940 --> 01:10:41,300
Recommendation from Finance Personnel Committee on Police requests to maintain a credit card for travel and training purposes with a credit line of

1142
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:42,860
$2,500.

1143
01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:44,560
I'm off to your proof.

1144
01:10:45,020 --> 01:10:45,360
Oh, second.

1145
01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:46,740
Most of my other person can.

1146
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,140
Second of my other person can.

1147
01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:49,640
I need to discuss in your comments.

1148
01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:52,750
Seeing there is none.

1149
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:53,610
Roll call vote, please.

1150
01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:54,570
All the person handsome.

1151
01:10:55,250 --> 01:10:55,770
Can I go?

1152
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:56,070
Hi.

1153
01:10:56,330 --> 01:10:56,790
Lead the note.

1154
01:10:57,130 --> 01:10:57,170
I.

1155
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:57,910
P. Rock.

1156
01:10:58,050 --> 01:10:58,250
I.

1157
01:10:58,650 --> 01:10:58,970
Wigley.

1158
01:10:59,210 --> 01:10:59,390
I.

1159
01:10:59,790 --> 01:11:00,150
Rash.

1160
01:11:00,930 --> 01:11:01,250
Carpenter.

1161
01:11:01,950 --> 01:11:02,070
I.

1162
01:11:02,090 --> 01:11:02,250
Gants.

1163
01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:03,730
Motion carries.

1164
01:11:03,890 --> 01:11:04,570
Thank you.

1165
01:11:04,710 --> 01:11:07,790
Item 17 recommendation from the finance personnel committee.

1166
01:11:08,190 --> 01:11:12,470
On acceptance of $18,500 donation from the cloud family

1167
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:19,470
foundation to police for use with the K9 unit moved to approve everyone wants that one

1168
01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:22,570
Yeah, milder person rash second of milder person

1169
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:27,350
Amy all the person kind of girl questions are comments

1170
01:11:28,710 --> 01:11:35,870
Again, big thank you to the cloud foundation in a conversation. We had they this is something that they thought very highly of so it's outstanding

1171
01:11:35,870 --> 01:11:38,590
That said it's this real calling regular

1172
01:11:38,590 --> 01:11:45,450
That said, I'm sorry, that's that all those and it's been a long meeting that's still not done yet

1173
01:11:45,790 --> 01:11:49,390
All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed

1174
01:11:49,950 --> 01:11:54,590
Motion carries. Thank you. 16 more edibles. Item 18

1175
01:11:55,270 --> 01:12:03,730
Recommendation from the finance personnel committee on acceptance of 1,500 dollar donation from Walmart for the police bike safety program

1176
01:12:05,650 --> 01:12:07,910
Motion my other person lead me now

1177
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:10,150
I'll go to other person gates on this one.

1178
01:12:10,710 --> 01:12:13,170
Questions or comments that we have?

1179
01:12:13,930 --> 01:12:16,570
Seeing there is not all those in favor, say aye.

1180
01:12:16,610 --> 01:12:16,930
Aye.

1181
01:12:18,030 --> 01:12:18,550
Opposed?

1182
01:12:19,050 --> 01:12:20,590
Motion carries, thank you.

1183
01:12:20,850 --> 01:12:23,430
Item 19, recommendation from the License Committee

1184
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:26,130
on renewal applications for the Licensing Period

1185
01:12:26,130 --> 01:12:30,670
from July 1st, 2023 to June 30, 2024.

1186
01:12:30,690 --> 01:12:32,830
First up, item A, Class A,

1187
01:12:33,130 --> 01:12:34,690
fermented malt beverage liquor licenses.

1188
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:36,650
Make a motion to prove that little an applicant.

1189
01:12:36,650 --> 01:12:43,610
Second, motion milder person carpenter, seconded by other person p-rock, any discussion or comments.

1190
01:12:45,250 --> 01:12:47,670
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

1191
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:49,490
Opposed?

1192
01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:51,510
Motion carries, thank you.

1193
01:12:51,690 --> 01:12:56,250
Up next, Class A, fermented mull beverage, and Class A intoxicating liquor licenses.

1194
01:12:56,750 --> 01:12:58,490
Egg motion approved, the lone applicant.

1195
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:59,450
Second.

1196
01:12:59,730 --> 01:13:03,850
Motion milder person carpenter, second about a person dance, any discussion or comments.

1197
01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:07,810
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

1198
01:13:09,010 --> 01:13:09,430
Opposed?

1199
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:10,770
Motion carries.

1200
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:11,770
Thank you.

1201
01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:15,130
Item C, class B, fermented, milk, beverage licenses.

1202
01:13:15,790 --> 01:13:17,390
Make a motion to prove they're the one applicant.

1203
01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:19,770
Motion, milder person, carpenter.

1204
01:13:20,250 --> 01:13:21,570
Second, milder person, P-rock.

1205
01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:22,910
Any discussion or comments?

1206
01:13:24,690 --> 01:13:27,210
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, say aye.

1207
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:27,550
Aye.

1208
01:13:28,810 --> 01:13:29,290
Opposed?

1209
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:30,410
Motion carries.

1210
01:13:30,610 --> 01:13:31,050
Thank you.

1211
01:13:31,190 --> 01:13:32,630
I believe that covers all of them.

1212
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:39,130
Item 20, Ordinance 23, 0-8, repealing and re-enacting section 6-11 of the

1213
01:13:39,130 --> 01:13:43,190
Defearing Municipal Code regarding telephonic video conference meeting

1214
01:13:43,190 --> 01:13:45,870
attendance, this is the second reading.

1215
01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:46,990
Make a motion approval.

1216
01:13:47,050 --> 01:13:47,550
A second.

1217
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:51,630
Motion amount of the person, Carfender, second of all the person, Conagur, any discussion

1218
01:13:51,630 --> 01:13:54,370
or comments on the person, Rash?

1219
01:13:54,490 --> 01:13:54,650
Yeah.

1220
01:13:55,510 --> 01:14:00,870
As I stated last time, I think that I understand what the attempt is that we're doing here

1221
01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:06,810
and I'm hoping that we don't have to use this regular continuous basis but I think it's

1222
01:14:06,810 --> 01:14:12,490
important that as elected officials that were present in person for these meetings, so for

1223
01:14:12,490 --> 01:14:18,210
that reason what this change I won't support it. I'll be voting nay. Thank you other questions

1224
01:14:18,210 --> 01:14:18,910
or comments.

1225
01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:26,430
Seeing there is none. All those in favor say aye. Aye aye. Opposed? Aye. Motion carries

1226
01:14:26,430 --> 01:14:29,030
with other person rash voting nay.

1227
01:14:29,650 --> 01:14:34,370
Item 21, resolution 2365, any initial resolution

1228
01:14:34,370 --> 01:14:37,430
authorized in the sale and issuance of taxable general

1229
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:41,230
obligation, promissory notes, and certain related details.

1230
01:14:42,370 --> 01:14:43,450
Make the motion to approve.

1231
01:14:43,770 --> 01:14:44,270
Oh, second.

1232
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:46,830
Motion, milder person rash, second, milder person,

1233
01:14:46,890 --> 01:14:48,890
ledmenna, any discussion or comments.

1234
01:14:51,290 --> 01:14:52,310
Seem there is none.

1235
01:14:52,430 --> 01:14:53,470
Rho call vote, please.

1236
01:14:53,970 --> 01:14:55,010
Alter person, congregor?

1237
01:14:55,610 --> 01:14:56,050
Ledmenna?

1238
01:14:56,650 --> 01:14:57,070
P-rock?

1239
01:14:57,190 --> 01:14:57,390
Aye.

1240
01:14:57,390 --> 01:14:58,230
Quickly.

1241
01:14:58,350 --> 01:14:59,270
I crash.

1242
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:59,570
Hi.

1243
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:15,000
Carpenter, aye, abstain, aye, abstain. Motion carries, thank you. Item 22, resolution 23, 66, initial resolution, authorizing the sale and issuance of general obligation, promissory notes, and certain related details.

1244
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:21,140
Motion to approve. Second motion. Motion by all the person Carpenter, seconded by all their person.

1245
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,640
He's pointing, he's going to give it up, lead with no.

1246
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:26,720
Any comments or discussion?

1247
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,700
Seeing there is none, we'll call both, please.

1248
01:15:31,220 --> 01:15:33,260
All the person, lead with no, I, B-rock,

1249
01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:37,460
quickly, I, brush, carpenter, dance,

1250
01:15:37,860 --> 01:15:40,420
I, handsome, honey girl, I.

1251
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:41,840
Motion carries, thank you.

1252
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:46,900
Item 23, resolution 23, 67, approving ATM event

1253
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:51,060
placement agreement with cornerstone processing solutions.

1254
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:52,760
I make motion.

1255
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:57,480
Second motion, my other person gets second by all

1256
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,980
their person, P. Rock, any discussion or comments?

1257
01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:03,410
All the person carpenter.

1258
01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:05,730
Yes, is this going to be used at all?

1259
01:16:06,030 --> 01:16:07,770
I've not stated in there for the beer garden.

1260
01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:10,230
It's going to be used for like the food truck rally and

1261
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:11,050
different other things.

1262
01:16:12,350 --> 01:16:14,330
Or what events is it all going to be said?

1263
01:16:14,330 --> 01:16:14,630
Party.

1264
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:15,010
regard.

1265
01:16:17,420 --> 01:16:22,020
At this time our involvement with Fox

1266
01:16:22,020 --> 01:16:24,940
Community's Credit Union, who's it is for only the

1267
01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:28,980
beer garden. Okay. I read that in the and I didn't know if

1268
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:31,960
it was for other events. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

1269
01:16:32,020 --> 01:16:33,380
Other questions or comments?

1270
01:16:35,730 --> 01:16:36,430
Roll cobble, please.

1271
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:38,070
All the person P Rock?

1272
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:40,850
Wiggly. I. Rash. I.

1273
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:41,850
Carpenter.

1274
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:43,010
Gants.

1275
01:16:43,650 --> 01:16:44,170
Hansen.

1276
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:45,330
Honeygher.

1277
01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:46,210
Leadman.

1278
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:48,230
Motion carries.

1279
01:16:48,350 --> 01:16:48,770
Thank you.

1280
01:16:48,830 --> 01:16:49,530
Item 24.

1281
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:50,910
Resolution 23.

1282
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:51,630
68.

1283
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:52,950
Amending Section 3.

1284
01:16:53,210 --> 01:16:53,430
4.

1285
01:16:53,470 --> 01:16:53,790
6.

1286
01:16:53,810 --> 01:16:54,050
7.

1287
01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:54,750
10.

1288
01:16:55,090 --> 01:16:56,210
Of the city of Depear.

1289
01:16:56,450 --> 01:16:58,130
Employee Policy Manual.

1290
01:16:58,710 --> 01:16:59,490
Move to approve.

1291
01:17:00,690 --> 01:17:01,230
Motion.

1292
01:17:01,230 --> 01:17:01,450
Motion.

1293
01:17:01,530 --> 01:17:01,650
Motion.

1294
01:17:01,650 --> 01:17:01,770
Motion.

1295
01:17:01,770 --> 01:17:01,830
Motion.

1296
01:17:02,410 --> 01:17:02,610
Second.

1297
01:17:02,610 --> 01:17:02,830
Second.

1298
01:17:03,010 --> 01:17:03,170
Second.

1299
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:05,750
person quickly. Any discussion or comments?

1300
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,020
Seeing there is none, all those in favor say aye.

1301
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:18,660
Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Item 25, Resolution 2369, authorized

1302
01:17:18,660 --> 01:17:24,440
an agreement between the city of Depear and McGrath, Human Resources Group, Job, Description

1303
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:25,220
Update.

1304
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,600
Motion, Elder Person, Conigre, Second of Elder Person, Gants. Any discussion or comments?

1305
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,400
All the person carpenter.

1306
01:17:34,940 --> 01:17:37,640
Yes, I was wondering how we came up with the 50 documents.

1307
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:40,820
Do you already have projected them already?

1308
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,200
Out of all the job.

1309
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,340
These are the number of positions that we have.

1310
01:17:45,580 --> 01:17:46,940
Different positions within the city.

1311
01:17:48,140 --> 01:17:49,300
That's one of some of my questions.

1312
01:17:49,540 --> 01:17:50,780
Thank you.

1313
01:17:50,860 --> 01:17:51,500
Thank you.

1314
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:53,020
Other questions or comments?

1315
01:17:55,380 --> 01:17:56,560
Seeing there is none.

1316
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:57,260
Roll call.

1317
01:17:58,220 --> 01:17:59,040
All the person quickly?

1318
01:17:59,540 --> 01:17:59,740
Aye.

1319
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,480
Rash.

1320
01:18:01,140 --> 01:18:01,620
Carpenter.

1321
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:02,120
Aye.

1322
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,040
Dance, I, Hanson.

1323
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:04,300
Hi.

1324
01:18:04,620 --> 01:18:05,100
Conninger.

1325
01:18:05,380 --> 01:18:06,180
I, Ledrona.

1326
01:18:06,260 --> 01:18:07,200
I, P. Rock.

1327
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:07,600
Hi.

1328
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:09,560
Motion carries.

1329
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:10,380
Thank you.

1330
01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:11,980
Thanks, Shannon.

1331
01:18:13,220 --> 01:18:14,120
More up to 26.

1332
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,100
Resolution 2370.

1333
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,040
Authorizing street name changes.

1334
01:18:18,140 --> 01:18:20,320
And naming the Southern Bridge, Arthur J.

1335
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:21,440
Alt-Mire Bridge.

1336
01:18:22,060 --> 01:18:23,480
Which we placed on.

1337
01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:24,840
So then we're going to talk about Southbridge Road.

1338
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,400
Red Midbury Road in Rockland Road.

1339
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:28,920
Which we're going to hopefully come up with the name right now.

1340
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,440
should we vote on this altogether as one or vote for Elter J.

1341
01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:35,160
Outmire, separate, I'll go to the city attorney in this one.

1342
01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:39,240
Yeah, I would say, I recommend that.

1343
01:18:39,460 --> 01:18:40,700
All right, let's just tackled in separately.

1344
01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:44,780
So on the floor right now, we have naming of Elter J.

1345
01:18:45,020 --> 01:18:49,260
Outmire Bridge, just for note, it is going to come on as a recommendation from us,

1346
01:18:49,260 --> 01:18:51,940
but we feel strongly about that just someone's aware of that.

1347
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:57,520
So motion to approve Elter J. Outmire Bridge for the naming of the Southern Bridge.

1348
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,820
Motion by all the person who asked second by all the person handsome to name as it

1349
01:19:02,820 --> 01:19:07,420
recommendations strongly Arthur J. Outlier Bridge. Any discussion or comments?

1350
01:19:08,780 --> 01:19:10,080
Yeah, what's it?

1351
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:17,740
Okay, so for people out there why we are picking this Arthur J. Outlier. It was a former

1352
01:19:17,740 --> 01:19:23,620
Deeper Resident who graduated from Deeper High School and I believe 1910 went on to Madison.

1353
01:19:23,620 --> 01:19:30,880
And eventually became the architect of the Social Security, as we know it today, and Franklin

1354
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:35,980
Roosevelt, President Roosevelt, commented that he was known as Mr. Social Security.

1355
01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:41,780
He became the first director of the Social Security Board, and also eventually the Social

1356
01:19:41,780 --> 01:19:45,680
Security Administration upon his retirement in 1954, this is all by memory.

1357
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:51,800
And eventually, because he was so influential for Social Security, the Social Security Administration

1358
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:57,980
building in Baltimore, Maryland bears Arthur J. Altmyer's name. So, extremely famous

1359
01:19:57,980 --> 01:20:03,820
deep here resident that is worthy of this honor. How was that? And because you're going

1360
01:20:03,820 --> 01:20:07,800
to ask, first cousin is Susie Altmyer. They both have different spellings

1361
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:12,820
the last name. So, when the families came over for whatever reason, one kept one spelling

1362
01:20:12,820 --> 01:20:15,020
the other one changed the spellings. So, yes, they're related.

1363
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:18,540
Other questions are comments,

1364
01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:20,720
or any historical factual information you might want.

1365
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:22,260
That's really all I have right now.

1366
01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:27,160
All right, that's said, all those in favor say aye.

1367
01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:27,740
All right, aye.

1368
01:20:28,540 --> 01:20:29,020
Opposed?

1369
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,260
Motion carries, thank you.

1370
01:20:31,460 --> 01:20:34,160
We have a bridge name that we're hoping sticks.

1371
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,540
All right, now let's get down to the fun.

1372
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,200
We need a, as a recommendation to forward on.

1373
01:20:41,380 --> 01:20:44,960
This one is actually more, has more significance, right?

1374
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,660
I mean, we have to name this thing based on the DOT.

1375
01:20:47,660 --> 01:20:54,640
Well, DOT is asking. DOT is asking our public works department to recommend a name.

1376
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:59,800
Again, it's working with a county road so we have to have this go through the county so that

1377
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,540
they can start properly and all their designs for signage and things.

1378
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:03,440
So that's what they're looking for.

1379
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:05,440
That's a big deal, big big deal.

1380
01:21:05,620 --> 01:21:07,880
So what I'll do now, this is kind of new to all of us.

1381
01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:10,040
I thought I would just kind of open this up.

1382
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,640
Kind of like we were voting for stuff within the council.

1383
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:15,740
And just maybe have you guys offer recommendations?

1384
01:21:15,740 --> 01:21:19,100
is that some good enough and we'll just go from there and you can kind of make a plug.

1385
01:21:19,860 --> 01:21:22,760
All the person who asked you have something that I do.

1386
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:24,020
I do.

1387
01:21:24,260 --> 01:21:28,800
So I, you know, having had a chance to look at this that Plan Commission the first time,

1388
01:21:29,480 --> 01:21:37,300
I'm not going to say as in fadically as I did during that meeting my thoughts on the first

1389
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:38,420
thing that was thrown out there.

1390
01:21:38,420 --> 01:21:39,280
I believe that went along.

1391
01:21:40,540 --> 01:21:44,000
But anyway, in the conversation that happened in Plan Commission was actually a good

1392
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:49,320
conversation, they talked about Arthur J. Altmire being more of a historical figure and kind

1393
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,100
of sticking with the history type of scenario as it came to naming the bridge and then

1394
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:57,680
they were looking at something that maybe spoke more to the future.

1395
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:06,140
And we talked about history, one of the things I suggested is maybe that we find a way to

1396
01:22:06,140 --> 01:22:11,060
pay homage to the people that lived in this area for thousands of years before it was settled

1397
01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:13,220
and that would have been the monomony nation.

1398
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:17,220
So the monomony nation actually occupied this area

1399
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,880
of, of, of, appear in Green Bay for 10,000 plus years

1400
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:27,000
before the French actually moved in and worked and lived with them.

1401
01:22:27,140 --> 01:22:29,300
But this area of, appear in Green Bay

1402
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:31,880
in doing some research with the monomony people

1403
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,400
was actually referred to as chiefs villages

1404
01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:36,940
because a lot of the chiefs of the monomony nation

1405
01:22:36,940 --> 01:22:38,720
actually resided in here along the rivers.

1406
01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:50,840
So, so I'm talking with some members of the Menomani tribe over the past several weeks and trying to figure out some ideas that might work for a name that kind of signifies and

1407
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:58,560
and recognizes them being here, the history side that also something that speaks towards the future, one of the names that that popped up was generations Avenue.

1408
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,720
So in the original name that was put up by the city, which we're not going to bring up,

1409
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,680
I wanted to think of something that looked towards the future and some positives.

1410
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:12,320
And I think one of the things that's important to make that connection back, not only just

1411
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:17,140
in native people, but to the monomony nation as well as all those that are in this area,

1412
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:25,920
is understanding that as Native Americans, we like to make decisions and think about things

1413
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,960
that impact the next seven generations that come behind us.

1414
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,960
So for those that don't know, I'm a proud member of the Stockbridge Muncie tribe, a

1415
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,920
band-moheakens over in the Central part of Wisconsin, and part of that teaching that comes

1416
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:43,780
to us is that thinking for the future and anything we do today affects and impacts the next seven

1417
01:23:43,780 --> 01:23:49,740
generations. So in those talkings and making that connection back to history as well as the future,

1418
01:23:49,860 --> 01:23:55,790
I think generations Avenue, in my mind, fits very well with kind of the theme of what we started here

1419
01:23:56,670 --> 01:24:07,790
with Arthur J Altmire, but it has a bigger impact on our communities as a whole and how we want to do things as a city council and as a community that actually impact positively the next seven generations.

1420
01:24:08,050 --> 01:24:16,250
And I know that we have a developer sitting here as well and when they put projects together they're thinking how is this going to impact probably the next 20 to 25 30 40 years.

1421
01:24:16,250 --> 01:24:18,370
And I think it's the same thing that we do here.

1422
01:24:18,510 --> 01:24:22,550
And so I think my name that I'm throwing out

1423
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:24,390
is generations, Avenue, for those reasons,

1424
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:26,730
tie that back to a bigger picture.

1425
01:24:27,630 --> 01:24:28,990
Thank you very much.

1426
01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:29,830
Good explanation.

1427
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:31,930
Any other names you want to toss out there

1428
01:24:31,930 --> 01:24:33,110
folks for consideration?

1429
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:35,250
I have a seat.

1430
01:24:35,330 --> 01:24:36,070
All the person kind of here?

1431
01:24:36,210 --> 01:24:40,270
Yeah, kind of in the same vein as Dean mentioned,

1432
01:24:40,410 --> 01:24:43,230
but with a little different thought process.

1433
01:24:43,230 --> 01:24:49,510
So thinking about all the decades of planning that have gone into this as well as being

1434
01:24:49,510 --> 01:24:56,190
significant of bringing greater unity to the area, how much more travel and supply chain

1435
01:24:56,190 --> 01:24:59,710
can be exercised throughout the reason and throughout the state.

1436
01:24:59,850 --> 01:25:03,730
I mean, it's a project that is really astronomical when you think about it.

1437
01:25:04,030 --> 01:25:10,170
So I looked at words that were both synonymous with that development, what appears stands

1438
01:25:10,170 --> 01:25:16,350
as well as the river itself and what it's signifies and crossing. So just playing with some

1439
01:25:16,350 --> 01:25:24,130
ideas, three words came, came to mind. Coles, co means together, a less means to grow.

1440
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:31,550
So the definition is to unite as a whole, the combination of distinct elements to grow together

1441
01:25:31,550 --> 01:25:38,310
to unite for common and joint forces when similar parts become a cohesive unit.

1442
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:43,030
So that is really symbolic of what this development is doing.

1443
01:25:44,530 --> 01:25:47,830
Another opportunity or thought process was around.

1444
01:25:48,050 --> 01:25:56,430
It's a little more long, but it's fun to say, amalgamate, but it's really easy to spell.

1445
01:25:56,990 --> 01:26:00,030
So it's an action of process of uniting two things.

1446
01:26:00,070 --> 01:26:01,870
But here's the fun part about it.

1447
01:26:01,950 --> 01:26:06,390
It's forming a close union without loss of individual identities.

1448
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:13,690
And I don't know about a town that is so fiercely individual in their identities and a

1449
01:26:13,690 --> 01:26:13,850
hole.

1450
01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:16,610
So I thought that would be kind of fun to play around with.

1451
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:23,270
And then the last one is more of a lean to the actual development of a river itself,

1452
01:26:23,670 --> 01:26:24,410
but riparian.

1453
01:26:25,010 --> 01:26:31,090
So riparian is related to the situation of living and locating and dwelling on the banks

1454
01:26:31,090 --> 01:26:36,310
of a river in a natural water course of a river.

1455
01:26:36,850 --> 01:26:38,910
So it's the ecology and the diversity

1456
01:26:39,890 --> 01:26:42,710
and contributing to the health of a greater ecosystem.

1457
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:46,630
So a repairion is both a nod to the river

1458
01:26:46,630 --> 01:26:49,370
as well as what we're trying to do

1459
01:26:49,370 --> 01:26:51,310
with the ecosystem of our whole area.

1460
01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:55,710
So those are three words that not every day street names,

1461
01:26:55,970 --> 01:26:59,230
but they could be applied with real dual meaning.

1462
01:26:59,230 --> 01:27:02,430
So, all right, thank you.

1463
01:27:03,150 --> 01:27:05,050
Going next, I think all the person in the handsome,

1464
01:27:05,250 --> 01:27:05,930
do you ever hear that?

1465
01:27:08,130 --> 01:27:09,210
I like generation drive.

1466
01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:10,290
I like some of those Amy.

1467
01:27:11,490 --> 01:27:15,030
I still think Southbridge Road is the most direct

1468
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:17,390
and easy to understand and recognize.

1469
01:27:17,390 --> 01:27:17,910
You can see it.

1470
01:27:18,110 --> 01:27:20,990
Very not creative, but very practical.

1471
01:27:21,470 --> 01:27:23,630
So, I want to throw Southbridge Road out there.

1472
01:27:23,770 --> 01:27:25,410
And it's already part of this segment.

1473
01:27:26,590 --> 01:27:30,970
I know, Plan Commission also talked about maybe looking at some of the monomony language.

1474
01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:35,610
I was looking at NECOT, which is one in monomony.

1475
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:37,690
Again, kind of going to Amy's thing about unity.

1476
01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:42,270
I like that you have kind of having some connection to unity and trying the two sides together.

1477
01:27:43,710 --> 01:27:44,530
Thank you.

1478
01:27:45,090 --> 01:27:45,850
Do we have others?

1479
01:27:47,690 --> 01:27:48,370
All the personal evidence?

1480
01:27:48,630 --> 01:27:53,750
I didn't really have one specifically, but I know your aim when you were working on this at staff

1481
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:57,850
was to come up with the word that meant, you know, progress or moving forward.

1482
01:27:58,590 --> 01:28:05,490
And I just think that this bridge, taking generations to build, I mean, really has.

1483
01:28:06,230 --> 01:28:11,810
It's really come down to this collaboration of local units of government and the state and

1484
01:28:11,810 --> 01:28:14,270
interested groups to get us to this point.

1485
01:28:14,270 --> 01:28:20,210
So I just like the idea of naming it for something along the lines of, you know, that collaborate,

1486
01:28:20,210 --> 01:28:25,090
recognizing that collaboration and that working together to get to where we are now.

1487
01:28:25,470 --> 01:28:26,850
But I didn't really come up with any names.

1488
01:28:27,870 --> 01:28:29,410
I like to call last.

1489
01:28:31,550 --> 01:28:32,270
I don't know.

1490
01:28:32,810 --> 01:28:33,370
Thank you.

1491
01:28:33,610 --> 01:28:34,110
Good comments.

1492
01:28:35,150 --> 01:28:36,510
Other person rash person.

1493
01:28:37,410 --> 01:28:37,510
Yeah.

1494
01:28:37,810 --> 01:28:43,730
So when I talked to them, and I mean, they had a name that they were interested in, possibly

1495
01:28:43,730 --> 01:28:48,450
tossing out there because they want Chawan on, which was actually the name of their

1496
01:28:48,450 --> 01:28:51,590
First, grant chief that lived in this area.

1497
01:28:51,850 --> 01:28:56,350
So that was the name that they recommended from the monomany nation, if we would go with the

1498
01:28:56,350 --> 01:29:03,330
name of name, which is maybe a little bit tougher to kind of do, but from their historical

1499
01:29:03,330 --> 01:29:07,050
group, from their museum group, and from some of their leadership, that was the name they

1500
01:29:07,050 --> 01:29:10,630
had tossed out, which was the name of their first grant chief in this area.

1501
01:29:12,590 --> 01:29:13,510
I think I want to get one vote.

1502
01:29:15,050 --> 01:29:21,810
Okay, all the person here wants to ask Dan, do you recommend Aive or Drive for the street?

1503
01:29:23,310 --> 01:29:27,550
It really comes down to the overall makeup of the street.

1504
01:29:27,990 --> 01:29:33,050
Either one would suffice, and we've seen renderings a few different ways that includes a boulevard

1505
01:29:33,050 --> 01:29:37,850
that often offers that opportunity, that potentially is a discussion point.

1506
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:43,890
But to me, when you have a dividing line, like you have on the GV corridor, that's when you call it something like that one.

1507
01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:50,290
But if it's not going to be that, drive a revenue has equal weight in terms of a suffix for a street name.

1508
01:29:53,570 --> 01:29:56,110
That's not going on that road right now.

1509
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:57,070
Yes, pun intended.

1510
01:29:58,130 --> 01:29:59,950
Do we have anything else? Other person cance.

1511
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,600
I kind of like unity. You're just tossing unity out there, okay? All right, I'll throw that baby on there.

1512
01:30:06,620 --> 01:30:13,990
Yeah, I'll do the union by joining the whole of the different city council.

1513
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:20,650
Thank you. So imagine we wouldn't see why it will make many names you'd have right now.

1514
01:30:20,830 --> 01:30:23,530
I'll do a thousand. I can't just play baseball alone.

1515
01:30:23,650 --> 01:30:24,690
And when else have a comment.

1516
01:30:24,690 --> 01:30:26,130
I think that's an addition.

1517
01:30:26,770 --> 01:30:27,510
Another name.

1518
01:30:27,950 --> 01:30:27,970
Right.

1519
01:30:28,010 --> 01:30:29,070
They can come and go.

1520
01:30:29,670 --> 01:30:30,970
Yes, I think we're ready to roll.

1521
01:30:31,550 --> 01:30:35,650
So I think what we'll probably do is we have, I'll say them again, and I'm not

1522
01:30:35,650 --> 01:30:46,150
going to say Avenue or Roll to Generations, Cole S, a Melgumite, Reparian, South Bridge Road,

1523
01:30:47,210 --> 01:30:47,730
and Unity.

1524
01:30:48,050 --> 01:30:51,630
I don't know if the Meekot one was actually off your seat, but I don't know if I said

1525
01:30:51,630 --> 01:30:52,310
so that.

1526
01:30:52,630 --> 01:30:52,950
Meekot.

1527
01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:54,070
Meekot.

1528
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:57,150
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

1529
01:30:58,210 --> 01:30:58,570
One.

1530
01:30:59,890 --> 01:31:00,210
Ah.

1531
01:31:00,750 --> 01:31:01,190
Necne cut.

1532
01:31:01,970 --> 01:31:02,430
That's how you start.

1533
01:31:02,910 --> 01:31:03,970
N-E-K-O-D.

1534
01:31:04,330 --> 01:31:06,670
Okay. Okay. So those are the ones we have.

1535
01:31:06,690 --> 01:31:07,750
So we're thinking of doing this.

1536
01:31:07,830 --> 01:31:10,130
We'll just go down the list here and you get one vote per.

1537
01:31:10,270 --> 01:31:11,170
Just raise your hand if you like.

1538
01:31:11,230 --> 01:31:11,950
Is that what we're gonna do?

1539
01:31:12,430 --> 01:31:13,790
We'll get a resolution.

1540
01:31:14,290 --> 01:31:16,290
Well, if we go one per and maybe one one.

1541
01:31:16,290 --> 01:31:16,790
Can we have a B-1 one?

1542
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:18,430
Can we? So I can really map a more.

1543
01:31:19,310 --> 01:31:20,730
Gener... I want to see you spell them.

1544
01:31:20,810 --> 01:31:22,270
I'm not gonna spell them, so thank you.

1545
01:31:22,270 --> 01:31:23,130
That one, I could spell.

1546
01:31:23,890 --> 01:31:24,290
Generations.

1547
01:31:24,610 --> 01:31:25,290
That was my plan.

1548
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:25,850
That's important.

1549
01:31:27,230 --> 01:31:28,030
Cole S.

1550
01:31:29,130 --> 01:31:32,490
I think it's C-O-A-R-E-S-C-E, but I'm not in her

1551
01:31:32,490 --> 01:31:33,670
percent sure, but it was correct.

1552
01:31:33,890 --> 01:31:34,870
I did it.

1553
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:36,350
That was a stalling camp back in 7th grade,

1554
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:37,130
but I never heard that word.

1555
01:31:37,170 --> 01:31:37,750
What was it again?

1556
01:31:39,070 --> 01:31:39,870
A Melgamite.

1557
01:31:39,970 --> 01:31:40,830
They're gonna pass down.

1558
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:42,250
A Melgamite.

1559
01:31:45,630 --> 01:31:48,730
Reparian, R-I-P-A-R-I-N.

1560
01:31:49,630 --> 01:31:50,930
We looked it up on Google.

1561
01:31:53,670 --> 01:31:54,550
Self-bridge?

1562
01:31:54,710 --> 01:31:55,730
How do you spell that?

1563
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:57,690
Ah, we're going to have one now.

1564
01:31:58,610 --> 01:32:02,050
Nikot, N-E-K-O-T, was just said, and now,

1565
01:32:02,150 --> 01:32:03,610
just thrown in the mix, unity.

1566
01:32:05,770 --> 01:32:07,290
U-N-I-T-Y, unity.

1567
01:32:07,670 --> 01:32:08,490
Just like you're in a spelling D.

1568
01:32:09,390 --> 01:32:11,730
So go down the list, and then you get one vote per.

1569
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:13,270
One vote per, Kevin.

1570
01:32:13,650 --> 01:32:14,150
I don't know.

1571
01:32:14,410 --> 01:32:14,630
Yeah.

1572
01:32:14,850 --> 01:32:16,890
And then kind of always have multiple ballots for you.

1573
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:17,950
Yeah.

1574
01:32:18,450 --> 01:32:25,970
So I'll just start from the top with the first one, so if you all have interest in generations, raise your hand for that one.

1575
01:32:26,290 --> 01:32:27,430
So we can only vote for one, though.

1576
01:32:28,290 --> 01:32:28,350
Yeah.

1577
01:32:29,790 --> 01:32:34,030
I've got one, two, three, four for generations.

1578
01:32:35,370 --> 01:32:35,970
Thank you.

1579
01:32:36,890 --> 01:32:37,730
Cole, less.

1580
01:32:39,810 --> 01:32:41,230
I have one, two.

1581
01:32:42,230 --> 01:32:42,470
Done.

1582
01:32:42,970 --> 01:32:44,870
Generations that as you can't be to that for that.

1583
01:32:46,710 --> 01:32:48,190
I want to say these names again.

1584
01:32:48,690 --> 01:32:52,610
I want you to spell them first with out Larry's help.

1585
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:54,150
And by the way, so not fans.

1586
01:32:54,510 --> 01:32:58,150
So the residents in Council understand, we did have a time crunch in doing this.

1587
01:32:58,210 --> 01:33:00,530
We didn't have a pile of time to do this to come up with the name.

1588
01:33:00,650 --> 01:33:02,470
So it's kind of why we are where we are right now.

1589
01:33:02,730 --> 01:33:04,310
So we thought we'd finish this at Plan Commission,

1590
01:33:04,510 --> 01:33:05,970
of course that didn't work.

1591
01:33:06,570 --> 01:33:08,550
Optimistic, by the way, I believe it was a name of the road,

1592
01:33:08,650 --> 01:33:10,190
which wasn't horribly bad.

1593
01:33:11,170 --> 01:33:12,070
When we toss it out there.

1594
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:13,070
Not horribly bad.

1595
01:33:13,070 --> 01:33:14,590
We were coming up with all kinds of things.

1596
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:17,870
Just so you know Larry, Larry.

1597
01:33:17,870 --> 01:33:20,830
James threw you under the bus with that name.

1598
01:33:21,090 --> 01:33:22,930
You guys come up with anything better.

1599
01:33:24,590 --> 01:33:25,910
And what have done the same thing?

1600
01:33:26,670 --> 01:33:27,950
So we're under kind of a time crunch.

1601
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:29,830
So now I do believe we're going to meet that.

1602
01:33:30,270 --> 01:33:34,050
And we'll just forward this as obviously a strong recommendation from the common council.

1603
01:33:34,370 --> 01:33:35,850
Shouldn't we keep going for the record?

1604
01:33:36,830 --> 01:33:37,630
Okay, we'll keep going for the record.

1605
01:33:37,630 --> 01:33:38,590
I'm going to make this meet.

1606
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:40,350
I'm very not doing it.

1607
01:33:42,310 --> 01:33:42,710
Amalgamite.

1608
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:44,590
Amalgamite.

1609
01:33:45,370 --> 01:33:45,770
Amalgamite.

1610
01:33:46,930 --> 01:33:50,770
Reparion, which by the way, really good kind of light, self-bridge.

1611
01:33:52,130 --> 01:33:52,750
There you go.

1612
01:33:53,210 --> 01:33:53,730
I got it.

1613
01:33:53,730 --> 01:33:54,610
I got it.

1614
01:33:56,150 --> 01:33:56,550
Nikot.

1615
01:33:57,450 --> 01:33:57,850
Nikot.

1616
01:33:57,970 --> 01:33:58,270
Okay.

1617
01:33:58,630 --> 01:33:59,630
And then unity.

1618
01:33:59,730 --> 01:34:00,370
Give that one a second.

1619
01:34:02,210 --> 01:34:02,990
Why not?

1620
01:34:03,050 --> 01:34:03,810
That gives it right now.

1621
01:34:04,070 --> 01:34:04,270
What?

1622
01:34:04,530 --> 01:34:04,930
All right.

1623
01:34:05,170 --> 01:34:05,750
It works.

1624
01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:08,990
So that said, we have that as a final.

1625
01:34:09,890 --> 01:34:12,410
So we need to do an emotion in a second for that to make an emotion.

1626
01:34:12,590 --> 01:34:13,110
And a second.

1627
01:34:13,250 --> 01:34:13,910
And then we'll go to that one.

1628
01:34:13,910 --> 01:34:16,950
So before we do that, shouldn't we go down the list to figure out

1629
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:19,550
what's going to be Avenue, Road Street, full of art?

1630
01:34:19,910 --> 01:34:21,950
And he's shaking his head right here because he has surgery.

1631
01:34:22,070 --> 01:34:23,050
Under percent, no.

1632
01:34:23,630 --> 01:34:28,230
However, as Larry would say, noted, so we'll need a motion

1633
01:34:28,230 --> 01:34:29,210
a second for generation.

1634
01:34:29,530 --> 01:34:35,090
Make a motion to name the road, the new road generations, something.

1635
01:34:35,570 --> 01:34:36,490
Can you be the second?

1636
01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:39,630
And to motion by a other person rash, second by a other person

1637
01:34:39,630 --> 01:34:42,810
Lebanon for the new road to be named generation.

1638
01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:49,050
Does any to recommend the name of the real new road generations any additional comments or discussion?

1639
01:34:50,570 --> 01:34:52,230
Where is the code from there then?

1640
01:34:52,570 --> 01:34:56,070
County County County County and we'll give you a final answer.

1641
01:34:56,330 --> 01:35:00,410
Are we worried that anyone's going to think we're being snarky by naming it generation?

1642
01:35:01,510 --> 01:35:02,750
We quite honestly don't care.

1643
01:35:03,430 --> 01:35:06,040
Considering the fact that the conversation for this

1644
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,740
So, the bridge started in the summer of 1967.

1645
01:35:09,380 --> 01:35:10,380
That's what I was born.

1646
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:11,260
That's fine.

1647
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,260
Yeah, yeah.

1648
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:12,900
We're just there.

1649
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:13,340
Okay, everybody.

1650
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:16,040
So the bridge will be done next year then once we have this finish.

1651
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,080
So good job everybody.

1652
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,040
I'm sure if you didn't put that all up there.

1653
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:22,540
Well, hopefully grab on it.

1654
01:35:22,620 --> 01:35:23,400
Find my me.

1655
01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:25,460
And then fully paid by everyone except us.

1656
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:26,400
That's it.

1657
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:28,680
All those in favor.

1658
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,900
This again is for the street name.

1659
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:31,740
Say aye.

1660
01:35:33,460 --> 01:35:33,860
Opposed.

1661
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:35,660
Motion carries.

1662
01:35:35,660 --> 01:35:42,840
Thank you. We have a bridge name and we have a street name. Congratulations, everybody. You are a part of history that took a long time to get to.

1663
01:35:44,540 --> 01:35:46,360
Good evening tonight. I am 27.

1664
01:35:47,900 --> 01:35:55,060
Resolution 2371 authorized in facility rental agreement between the city of Depear and the Depeary Unified School District of Depear.

1665
01:35:55,940 --> 01:35:56,840
We'll do proof.

1666
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:02,060
Most of all the person hands in second of all the person rash any discussion or comments.

1667
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,620
Seeing there is none, all those in favor, roll-coveled, please.

1668
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:09,920
Other person, Rash?

1669
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:10,580
Aye.

1670
01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:11,380
Carpenter?

1671
01:36:11,860 --> 01:36:12,060
Aye.

1672
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:12,640
Gens?

1673
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:13,040
Aye.

1674
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:13,740
Hansen?

1675
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:14,120
Aye.

1676
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:14,680
Levin?

1677
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:16,360
Aye.

1678
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:17,160
Peerock?

1679
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:17,520
Aye.

1680
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,120
Motion carries.

1681
01:36:20,260 --> 01:36:20,700
Thank you.

1682
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,320
Item 28.

1683
01:36:21,540 --> 01:36:24,840
Point to a historic preservation commission by Mayor Boyd.

1684
01:36:25,060 --> 01:36:25,320
We're different.

1685
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:26,820
Second.

1686
01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:28,840
Motion milder person, Hansen.

1687
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,920
Seconded by all the person, Levin, any discussion or comments?

1688
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,080
Thank you to James Schueler for offering to serve.

1689
01:36:35,740 --> 01:36:38,180
That said, all those in favor, say aye.

1690
01:36:38,340 --> 01:36:38,860
Aye.

1691
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:40,180
Opposed.

1692
01:36:40,780 --> 01:36:41,440
Motion carries.

1693
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:42,640
Thank you.

1694
01:36:42,940 --> 01:36:43,760
Item 29.

1695
01:36:44,620 --> 01:36:45,600
Vulture approval.

1696
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:47,200
Moved to approve.

1697
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:47,960
Second.

1698
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:49,600
Motion milder person quickly.

1699
01:36:49,780 --> 01:36:51,520
Seconded by all the person led me down.

1700
01:36:52,180 --> 01:36:53,660
All those in favor, say aye.

1701
01:36:54,020 --> 01:36:54,260
Aye.

1702
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:55,520
Opposed.

1703
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:56,720
Motion carries.

1704
01:36:56,980 --> 01:36:57,620
Thank you.

1705
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:58,740
Item 30.

1706
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,240
Future agenda items.

1707
01:37:00,340 --> 01:37:01,360
Does anyone have anything?

1708
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,500
All the person handsome.

1709
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:09,020
Yeah, so in the downtown we have a lot of, we've been gradually replacing the decorative

1710
01:37:09,020 --> 01:37:14,960
street lights with the new fixtures, and from the beginning of North Broadway by Crow's

1711
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,720
nest all the way to George Street, they've been all replaced on the east side, and now a lot

1712
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,520
of them on the west side have been replaced too.

1713
01:37:21,820 --> 01:37:26,520
But when we go south of George Street, so south Broadway from George Street to kind of where

1714
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,060
the Malva Center is, they're the old lights.

1715
01:37:29,060 --> 01:37:40,180
And the reason why is because those old lights are serviced by WPS were as the ones North of George Street are served our own by the city and WPS has not been willing to

1716
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:47,380
entertain the idea of replacing the fixtures to match the rest of them even if the city were to pay for it

1717
01:37:47,380 --> 01:37:54,720
So I'd just like a discussion at the board about how we might be able to proceed with this to try to get the fixtures all looking the same

1718
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:57,260
Larry's on that. Thank you very much

1719
01:37:57,260 --> 01:37:58,700
No, the public works, as you said.

1720
01:37:58,960 --> 01:37:59,260
It's noted.

1721
01:37:59,420 --> 01:38:00,080
Thank you, say, noted.

1722
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:02,100
Florida Public Works.

1723
01:38:02,980 --> 01:38:04,460
Other future agenda items.

1724
01:38:07,310 --> 01:38:08,890
OK, seeing there is none.

1725
01:38:09,390 --> 01:38:11,090
We moved to the closed session portion.

1726
01:38:11,550 --> 01:38:16,510
Item 31 and 32 will go 31 first, which doesn't have to be

1727
01:38:16,510 --> 01:38:18,770
closed session, but we'll kick it off and go from there.

1728
01:38:19,330 --> 01:38:20,450
So item 31.

1729
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:22,170
So you wouldn't have to read the closed session.

1730
01:38:22,610 --> 01:38:23,890
I know I'm not going to.

1731
01:38:23,890 --> 01:38:24,890
I'm just reading that item.

1732
01:38:25,050 --> 01:38:25,370
Yep.

1733
01:38:25,630 --> 01:38:26,370
Item 31.

1734
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:29,250
Consideration and possible action on proposed development

1735
01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:36,350
and degreement terms with DePier 230 development partners LLC for proposed redevelopment for the

1736
01:38:36,350 --> 01:38:40,810
former shop co-store in downtown DePier, Dan, you're going to kick this off.

1737
01:38:45,550 --> 01:38:48,010
I'm going to take my time, kind of pull on this up here in our skin.

1738
01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:49,210
Guys, all the time.

1739
01:38:49,370 --> 01:38:50,970
We've got plenty of time.

1740
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:52,690
You guys will pay back there plenty of time.

1741
01:38:53,050 --> 01:38:55,870
We've got at least three and a half hours before our latest meeting, so here we go.

1742
01:38:57,130 --> 01:39:01,290
All right, so I'm going to go through probably, I would probably say one of the most

1743
01:39:01,290 --> 01:39:06,630
anticipated questions that you've probably been receiving over the past year as well as myself and others.

1744
01:39:07,890 --> 01:39:13,290
I'm going to go through a bit of an overview here, but also the current property owners are also available for questions.

1745
01:39:13,870 --> 01:39:16,070
But I'll try to go through as much of the overview as possible.

1746
01:39:16,670 --> 01:39:20,110
I will say that it's probably my most lengthy detailed memo I could probably provide.

1747
01:39:20,330 --> 01:39:25,050
So if you have any questions, I miss my target on providing all the details.

1748
01:39:25,050 --> 01:39:32,530
So, what this proposal is going to be looking at is a combination of a mixed use development

1749
01:39:32,530 --> 01:39:37,410
and redevelopment of the former Shopco facility in our downtown, and I'm just trying

1750
01:39:37,410 --> 01:39:38,210
to touch on the high points.

1751
01:39:38,410 --> 01:39:41,730
There's so much detail that went into this analysis, but I'll try to touch on the high points

1752
01:39:41,730 --> 01:39:42,350
here.

1753
01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:46,990
And to make this work, we're looking at the possible creation of three different tax increment

1754
01:39:46,990 --> 01:39:51,910
districts to facilitate the creation of five private development sites in one public development

1755
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:52,550
site.

1756
01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:57,870
over a span of 46 years, but again, market realities are sort of the big driver piece of that one.

1757
01:39:58,210 --> 01:40:07,350
About $60 million worth of new value to our downtown between about 80 to 85 million worth of total construction value,

1758
01:40:07,730 --> 01:40:11,850
depending on the overall scope of the project and when things fall in line.

1759
01:40:12,490 --> 01:40:19,290
We've asked the developer to provide as much detail as possible, so we could have a realistic conversation about what could be on the site.

1760
01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:27,550
And I think it's important because what we want to be able to do today is kind of create some general terms in which that development group can start to use as their baseline skeleton.

1761
01:40:28,210 --> 01:40:34,690
Because what we don't want is we don't want to come back every six months and with new terms and new terms and new terms as stuff changes.

1762
01:40:34,910 --> 01:40:39,770
So what we're asking tonight is a recommendation from the council to discuss this.

1763
01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:44,750
And the reason why it's a council here is normally this stage of a process would be at the finance and personnel committee.

1764
01:40:44,750 --> 01:40:52,710
But because of its large impactful nature to our downtown, we felt that the council would likely be the one who want to have a discussion point about this one.

1765
01:40:53,230 --> 01:40:55,710
So it's still a terms discussion here at this point.

1766
01:40:55,770 --> 01:41:07,790
A little bit out of ordinary, but it's still a terms discussion with the end result of staff being able to work with the development group on proposed development agreement and bring that back on in each individual basis.

1767
01:41:08,250 --> 01:41:09,950
So that's the overall impetus for tonight.

1768
01:41:09,950 --> 01:41:15,850
So, as we go through this here, see if my mouth starts working here, again, we're talking

1769
01:41:15,850 --> 01:41:19,630
about the creation of three separate tax increment districts, they would be blight elimination

1770
01:41:19,630 --> 01:41:21,310
or rehab and conservation districts.

1771
01:41:21,650 --> 01:41:25,810
Now, the same rules, 27 years, but the overall important part of this one is, we don't

1772
01:41:25,810 --> 01:41:30,910
want to create one standard district because then that clock starts to tick on every one

1773
01:41:30,910 --> 01:41:31,530
of those buildings.

1774
01:41:31,950 --> 01:41:36,090
And so, we lose the opportunity to use our leverage when it comes to tax incremental financing.

1775
01:41:36,090 --> 01:41:39,650
So try to stager out the creation of these districts as appropriate.

1776
01:41:40,050 --> 01:42:01,530
We've kind of limited it to three buildings of what we thought made sense, but that is going to require some creative maneuvering when it comes to structuring those project plans because of a lot of the public expenditures will be happening inside of a first tax increment district, which means there will be a donor allocation district necessary of those remaining two to help pay off those municipal infrastructure costs during that time.

1777
01:42:01,530 --> 01:42:10,550
So with that one we will have to work with the DOR to determine those various different elements, but that's what we are talking about here today

1778
01:42:11,250 --> 01:42:16,790
Real quick Danny, in the way that you're stating this, you're talking about having a layered district on top of each other, are you

1779
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:21,770
No, we would create in separate districts that would be almost single use or several use district

1780
01:42:21,770 --> 01:42:23,690
It was not going to layer over

1781
01:42:23,690 --> 01:42:28,490
No, puzzle pieces more or less is how I like to kind of refer to them

1782
01:42:29,090 --> 01:42:37,970
So, the overall scenario here, if I think we all know the site, I usually would put up a street view photos, but I think we're all sort of aware of the sites, our downtown former Shopco facility.

1783
01:42:38,450 --> 01:42:44,790
And the area of discussion tonight is primarily around the existing building, as well as the privately owned parking lot.

1784
01:42:46,170 --> 01:42:57,660
So, I put up the renderings, they're in your packet, the proposed renderings are part of discussion here tonight, but again there meant to be enough of a conceptual diagram to start moving us forward towards those conversations.

1785
01:42:57,660 --> 01:43:11,660
And I think, as I get further along, I start labeling the buildings, but overall, think of the site as a mixed use center, both horizontally and vertically, meaning we have vertical integration of uses and mix of uses going

1786
01:43:12,300 --> 01:43:15,520
horizontally meaning we have different types of buildings as we go along.

1787
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:22,600
This iteration, with the ownership group, we've been working with them for a while now on

1788
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,480
kind of finding the best fit from a scale and size standpoint, and so that's the reason

1789
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:28,660
why you're seeing the buildings as presented here.

1790
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,120
It's multiple buildings versus maybe one or two large buildings or three large buildings,

1791
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:38,460
and the reason for that is to break up massing and scaling and create human scale as we work through.

1792
01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:42,940
I think the Plan Commission made that point known, especially when it came to our new zoning code,

1793
01:43:42,940 --> 01:43:47,520
again talking about massing ends of the ownership group really took that to heart in this case.

1794
01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:52,620
But it also includes a public parking component as well as a public plaza component.

1795
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,980
And so you see that public plaza that's behind the buildings.

1796
01:43:56,100 --> 01:44:00,080
And what I mean public meaning it's accessible to the public but would be privately owned.

1797
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:06,140
But the overall intent is for it to be a 360 degree design building so that people can use the building

1798
01:44:06,140 --> 01:44:12,340
plaza space, patio space, green space and providing that element of light to each one of those buildings as well.

1799
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:18,380
So, Massey and for you, we'll go through each individual building at a very high level,

1800
01:44:18,620 --> 01:44:23,940
but in short, range of building size from two stories to five stories from the residential

1801
01:44:23,940 --> 01:44:28,700
standpoint and six stories in some of the residential and then a potential, as illustrated

1802
01:44:28,700 --> 01:44:30,680
on here as a potential hotel.

1803
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:35,060
Again, the overall configuration can change as new products come in, but the overall goal

1804
01:44:35,060 --> 01:44:38,300
is to provide a mix of uses both horizontally and vertically.

1805
01:44:39,140 --> 01:44:44,280
some conceptual renderings that were provided. Again, it may not meet all of the code elements,

1806
01:44:44,500 --> 01:44:49,120
but overall just conceptually you can kind of see how it fits within the overall ramifications

1807
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:56,220
of the downtown. You can see the right now we're looking north on Wisconsin Street looking north

1808
01:44:56,220 --> 01:44:59,520
towards what would be the shop though parking lot at this point.

1809
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,640
Wolfe Plaza is the water wall that you see right there, or the wind wall you see right there.

1810
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,640
And again, looking at it from just a slightly different perspective, looking at the rear of the building.

1811
01:45:10,780 --> 01:45:17,040
You can kind of see how that, again, the public space sort of wraps the building, the public kind of quasi public private space.

1812
01:45:17,620 --> 01:45:23,060
And again, just some representative images or sample images to get character and feel for what the development group is looking for.

1813
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:24,680
Those are in in your packet.

1814
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:33,260
So, the concept for polls, so I'm going to go through them here, again, I put the letters on there for a little bit bolder scale here.

1815
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:40,560
But building A6 stories, with first two stories being retail and commercial space, you can see the details I won't go through them all.

1816
01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:43,440
And then three to six floors being market rate residential.

1817
01:45:44,660 --> 01:45:54,460
Building B would be a two stories, again, trying to bring that scale back down and kind of break up that height would be an office and retail commercial component and building first and second floor.

1818
01:45:54,460 --> 01:45:59,960
building C on Broadway, you're looking at that currently positioned as a potential hotel

1819
01:45:59,960 --> 01:46:05,480
user with first floor, typical hotel uses on that first floor with second and seventh

1820
01:46:05,480 --> 01:46:11,120
floors, being included in that one. It's modeled just right now as is, but again, a hotel

1821
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:15,560
operator is going to come in with their own brand, their own field and their own components.

1822
01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:20,620
So again, it's just modeled that way now, provides some, to provide some conceptual feel.

1823
01:46:21,220 --> 01:46:28,340
Underground parking, aboveground parking, those are all things that have to be discussed during when that hotel operator starts to provide interest.

1824
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,840
As we continue to move forward, this one had more transitions in it.

1825
01:46:34,060 --> 01:46:41,220
Building D is a mix of again retail and residential, but primarily being retail and office on those first two floors and commercial.

1826
01:46:42,180 --> 01:46:48,420
The third and fourth fifth may be sixth floor depending on how the building is configured as 20 units of condominium development.

1827
01:46:48,420 --> 01:46:52,300
So again, now we're changing rental rates with condominium rates as well.

1828
01:46:52,460 --> 01:46:57,160
So we have two different, again, types of residential styles and building F that you see on

1829
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:01,120
there is four stories again with first floor retail commercial opportunities and then residential

1830
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:06,080
60 units there. Building E that you see there is a is proposed to be a public parking structure.

1831
01:47:06,260 --> 01:47:09,980
I think we've all heard the parking in our downtown needs to be fixed and needs to be corrected.

1832
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:14,580
I don't think I go a week without hearing that. But as part of it, we're talking a little bit about that.

1833
01:47:14,580 --> 01:47:21,660
So, in this case, that's when we, as a council, you guys authored Walker to go and understand

1834
01:47:21,660 --> 01:47:25,780
this impact to the parking calculations, and I did include that in the memo as well.

1835
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:30,660
Public investment proposals, you can see are on there, public infrastructure, so there's

1836
01:47:30,660 --> 01:47:35,340
several street reconstructions in right-of-ways, some acquisitions as proposed in those

1837
01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:40,760
general terms, that includes ownership and purchasing of right-of-ways purchasing of the

1838
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:46,040
working structure land and then development of those public facilities as well.

1839
01:47:46,740 --> 01:47:48,100
So I won't go through too much of those.

1840
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:56,740
In the fact that you saw that we took a high level view as much as we could with as much detail as we could for those evaluations of each project.

1841
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:02,380
So we evaluated each project for its market rates of returns and wanted to compare them to other market realities.

1842
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:06,200
And so I won't go through each one but it is in the packet I can respond to questions.

1843
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:18,280
But we did, in each one of these analysis, we took a 10-year projection of just basic the rent projections expense projections so that we can have an understanding of how these projects would perform over time.

1844
01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:22,260
Again, our whole goal is to make sure one at work for the district, but it also works for the developer.

1845
01:48:22,480 --> 01:48:24,120
They're meeting their expected rates of return.

1846
01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:32,540
But we're also not overreaching in that aspect as well, because there is only so much tools we have in the toolbox when it comes to tax incremental financing.

1847
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:38,760
So, I won't go through each one individually, but that's the overall, I have them detailed

1848
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,480
listed out here if we decide to go back and forth through some of these, but I just broke

1849
01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:47,720
down the structure, how the overall, roughly financing structure, loan to value, stuff like

1850
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:48,340
that.

1851
01:48:48,740 --> 01:48:54,460
I have the thing, the overall summaries tables included as well, it talks a little bit about

1852
01:48:54,460 --> 01:48:59,280
the public financing part of it, so we can touch a little bit on those ones, but in short,

1853
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:10,360
This bottom two tables here are sort of what comes in play, which is the overall percent of proposed public financing assistance towards this project and so I did include that in the packet.

1854
01:49:10,460 --> 01:49:18,260
The summary comes down to we are proposing in this case to break up the public financing part into two different pieces.

1855
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:24,040
The upfront cash grant to help sort of move the project along right on the front end.

1856
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:31,220
But then also extending out our opportunities to support with through the use of municipal revenue obligations

1857
01:49:31,220 --> 01:49:34,400
are what are typically known as pay-go agreements, and in this case.

1858
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:40,520
So you can see what that breaks down to is of the overall increment projected to be generated through this project.

1859
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:46,800
And we have about 41% of it net present value in incentives.

1860
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:53,160
When you include cost of borrowing, when you include the net present or the cost to those municipal revenue obligations,

1861
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:58,760
and interest involved, you're looking at about 70% of the total increment generated geared towards

1862
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:03,620
the incentives towards this project. That seems like a lot, but when we take our typical

1863
01:50:03,620 --> 01:50:10,640
mechanism of our ratios of increment to assess value, we're right in line with a lot of our redevelopment

1864
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:19,740
targets, which is in that 20% of the overall incentive to our increment value. So we're in target

1865
01:50:19,740 --> 01:50:22,460
where we've been with other redevelopment projects in the past.

1866
01:50:22,900 --> 01:50:24,960
This one does have more infrastructure costs

1867
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,920
than we've typically had in our downtown projects,

1868
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,420
but it involves potentially reconstructing a street

1869
01:50:29,420 --> 01:50:30,520
with more street-scape elements,

1870
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,840
adding the whole new street back to our network,

1871
01:50:33,580 --> 01:50:35,020
public parking ramp construction.

1872
01:50:36,140 --> 01:50:38,060
So as I kind of wrap up here,

1873
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:39,920
I did include sort of the general terms,

1874
01:50:40,420 --> 01:50:43,360
but in short, I've sort of outlined all those pieces

1875
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,900
within your packet, and there's a lot of information there.

1876
01:50:47,020 --> 01:50:49,380
But in short, each one of those development agreements

1877
01:50:49,380 --> 01:50:54,440
we're proposing to include the conceptual timelines, site plans, prior to the development agreements,

1878
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:59,780
and because we have internal site plan review process, that can be sped along as things move forward.

1879
01:51:00,700 --> 01:51:05,180
Minimum assessed value, minimum tax values per schedule, because we're trying to take advantage

1880
01:51:06,340 --> 01:51:14,540
of our potential increment growth from just property value appreciations. And also looking at, again,

1881
01:51:14,540 --> 01:51:19,920
that ratio and each one of those agreements of the incentive pay go versus upfront cash grant.

1882
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:24,080
We sort of outline where we think it needs to be, but we still want to have the flexibility

1883
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,540
to come back and say, maybe it makes more sense to move those dollar amounts one way or the

1884
01:51:28,540 --> 01:51:29,060
other.

1885
01:51:29,420 --> 01:51:33,400
And each one of those agreements will also include the city obligations, project cost reimbursement

1886
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:34,800
grants, annual pay goes.

1887
01:51:35,380 --> 01:51:39,200
The whole overall goal is if the developer finds that what we originally laid out here

1888
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:42,680
doesn't work for them, we want to be able to come back and say, okay, yes, that makes sense.

1889
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:46,280
We can move some things around here, and then come back with a final development agreement.

1890
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:50,700
We know each one of these projects is going to be its own challenge, and as a result we

1891
01:51:50,700 --> 01:51:54,100
want to make sure we have enough flexibility to come back with a development agreement that

1892
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:57,620
works for each party.

1893
01:51:58,780 --> 01:52:01,220
So roughly, I try to go through it quickly.

1894
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:06,420
I had a lot more time, but I realized what time it is here, but I know that the ownership

1895
01:52:06,420 --> 01:52:10,720
group is here for any questions that you may have, but again, if you wish to kind of go

1896
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,720
in a close session and discuss any of these things

1897
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:14,780
that option is available to you as well.

1898
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:16,200
Okay, so we'll probably do,

1899
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:17,960
so you understand what the do's and don'ts are.

1900
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:19,340
We're going to go in our attorney right now.

1901
01:52:19,480 --> 01:52:22,400
So Tony, tell us how things kind of go from here.

1902
01:52:23,220 --> 01:52:26,780
Sure, I'll just type to count on a couple of points,

1903
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,180
just logistically or mechanically,

1904
01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:33,120
as Dan indicated, the council would have the option

1905
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:36,900
to go into close session if they had any questions,

1906
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,820
or wish to discuss for competitive bargaining,

1907
01:52:39,820 --> 01:52:47,820
negotiating reasons any of the terms that have been set out in the packet and the term sheet

1908
01:52:47,820 --> 01:52:53,600
that is better presented. So anything specifically Council could choose to go in to close

1909
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:59,000
session to have further discussion with staff in that regard. In addition, as Dan indicated

1910
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:06,120
and as you can see the developers here and would be available to answer any questions or making

1911
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:10,780
comments and that would be contained in open session. So just a couple of points

1912
01:53:10,780 --> 01:53:15,880
I don't move forward. Thank you. So you guys can take a try and questions if you like

1913
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,100
and we'll determine from there. Are there a person rash?

1914
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:19,760
I have a question for the city attorney.

1915
01:53:22,020 --> 01:53:23,700
So, and for Dan a little bit here on this one.

1916
01:53:23,860 --> 01:53:29,640
So my understanding here right now is this is still a process. There's nothing definitive

1917
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,340
being really decided to deny the side from let's move forward and continue conversations

1918
01:53:33,340 --> 01:53:37,880
and get some more of the the nitty gritty worked out in my understanding that correctly.

1919
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:43,720
So, I mean, I don't know how much conversation or question we can have on terms and at this point.

1920
01:53:43,860 --> 01:53:48,840
Well, typically that or in my, no, typically this was at the finance we'd be looking for

1921
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:55,540
recommendation of these draft terms here and typically we then have the opportunity to, if we find that the

1922
01:53:55,540 --> 01:54:00,320
terms are starting to move around we can either bring them back as a terms discussion or bring them forward if

1923
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:04,060
are just nominal enough that we can just let the council know when the development agreement

1924
01:54:04,060 --> 01:54:08,320
is ready that we've made some tweaks from the finance committee's recommendation as a result

1925
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:08,960
of the market.

1926
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:10,340
Does that help answer?

1927
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,320
I think you're on.

1928
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:14,700
All the person carpenter?

1929
01:54:15,180 --> 01:54:21,260
So some of this infrastructure that's got to be done, I mean, alive infrastructure was done,

1930
01:54:21,500 --> 01:54:24,780
especially water main, when the other development never went nowhere.

1931
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,260
When the shop called the development went on and there's a large water main pipe that was

1932
01:54:29,260 --> 01:54:29,680
put in.

1933
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:34,760
can anybody, is that going to be a molder? We're going to be using some of that stuff or

1934
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:41,180
so no. So some of the infrastructure in in Wisconsin Street and discussions with our city

1935
01:54:41,180 --> 01:54:45,660
engineer potentially has the opportunity to be reuse. Some of the ductile iron probably has

1936
01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:50,640
an opportunity now to move it. But if we're going to be looking at doing pavement reconfigurations

1937
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:56,280
and streetscape elements, there may be opportunities to look at that. In the terms you see

1938
01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:01,680
if the proposal is not to include any upgrades to pipes or anything else like that, but

1939
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,420
stuff has to be moved because it's currently sitting where a building needs to sit.

1940
01:55:06,420 --> 01:55:08,720
The term sort of outline whose responsibility of that is.

1941
01:55:08,740 --> 01:55:12,460
If the city ever says, okay, now that we're doing this, we like to up-sized things so that

1942
01:55:12,460 --> 01:55:16,660
we're better service to ourselves, that's also outlined in the terms that that's a city cost.

1943
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:22,540
So that we're trying to be fair in whose responsibility it is in those proposed terms.

1944
01:55:22,540 --> 01:55:44,340
So, and all the person I don't know, and you can cut me off on this, and that proposed city portion of a garage or parking area, if we don't go and close session, I recommend since we're thinking of generations down the road that we make this parking area large enough that it's not going to be needed to be done later.

1945
01:55:46,990 --> 01:55:49,310
And Larry or Danny want to take that?

1946
01:55:49,550 --> 01:55:52,570
Just the Walker study will assist with that.

1947
01:55:52,650 --> 01:55:55,190
Yeah, we have to go by that size and need to be.

1948
01:55:55,370 --> 01:55:58,350
But I'm just saying that hopefully we are large enough.

1949
01:55:59,570 --> 01:56:04,730
There is also a piece of that one, which is the cost of a parking structure and for those that

1950
01:56:04,730 --> 01:56:10,890
are about the cost per stall is quite observant, so we need to find that balance point.

1951
01:56:12,090 --> 01:56:15,990
And by the way, don't let time take things away from you all.

1952
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:17,010
This is a pretty important project.

1953
01:56:17,190 --> 01:56:18,110
It's a really big deal.

1954
01:56:18,330 --> 01:56:21,430
So if you have stuff you want to bring out, you have questions of, please do.

1955
01:56:21,710 --> 01:56:23,370
So don't think we're strapped any time.

1956
01:56:23,550 --> 01:56:24,730
Restrain what's the weather here.

1957
01:56:24,870 --> 01:56:29,250
I mean, it really is a extremely large project and deserves your attention.

1958
01:56:29,690 --> 01:56:31,910
I've got about 7-3 to 3 tomorrow morning before I got to be the worst.

1959
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:33,770
I'm good.

1960
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:36,330
All the person kind of grabbed, I think you had your hand up.

1961
01:56:36,510 --> 01:56:39,570
Yeah, I just want to reiterate what you said earlier,

1962
01:56:39,570 --> 01:56:44,830
that this is conceptually like nobody should fall in love with the design, it's largely developed

1963
01:56:44,830 --> 01:56:52,270
to give an explanation to the math, right? Or is the design more that it will be five buildings

1964
01:56:52,270 --> 01:57:00,090
or multiple buildings that will be developed over time? Is it somewhere in the middle of,

1965
01:57:00,090 --> 01:57:06,470
because it won't necessarily be this, but that's how we could devise a whole plan for the math

1966
01:57:06,470 --> 01:57:13,730
work out and I think you're probably looking at a pretty good representation of scale and of

1967
01:57:13,730 --> 01:57:20,030
appropriateness I would say maybe the location of a building being maybe not here in building

1968
01:57:20,030 --> 01:57:25,570
these location and be maybe it moves or maybe the hotel moves to the location. I would say the

1969
01:57:25,570 --> 01:57:31,290
ownership group has looked at this as an opportunity to create the appropriate scale and as you get

1970
01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:36,390
bigger and bigger buildings you lose that human element of scale and you also increase your risk.

1971
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:41,470
When it comes to overall performance, you have a little bigger building, much bigger debt,

1972
01:57:41,810 --> 01:57:43,970
you're able to bring in as many different investors.

1973
01:57:44,490 --> 01:57:47,910
So I would say you're probably pretty close on the massing in scale.

1974
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:49,170
That's what we've been working towards.

1975
01:57:49,890 --> 01:57:53,810
It's the location and maybe some small tweaks is probably pretty close.

1976
01:57:54,290 --> 01:57:58,270
Now the overall look of the looks and feel of those buildings, those are representative

1977
01:57:58,270 --> 01:58:01,210
images, every project will be different as it comes in.

1978
01:58:01,210 --> 01:58:08,370
The parking facility is that one that future development could be on top of it.

1979
01:58:08,590 --> 01:58:14,430
So in our discussions with Walker, who's our parking consultant, we are looking at opportunities

1980
01:58:15,210 --> 01:58:20,450
for servicing the greater area. Now adding scale to that one, adding height to that one,

1981
01:58:20,470 --> 01:58:26,870
also adds height adjacent to the neighborhood. We have other parking lots that are already in our

1982
01:58:26,870 --> 01:58:32,870
town that maybe be better utilized for additional buildings instead of adding spaces for

1983
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:38,050
parking versus adding spaces for other buildings on top of it and the reason for that one is

1984
01:58:38,050 --> 01:58:42,050
it's just again a product of scale once you add buildings on top of parking structures

1985
01:58:42,050 --> 01:58:47,070
your costs go up and you start to really kind of change I guess you would say the overall

1986
01:58:47,070 --> 01:58:52,270
dynamic of it so we're trying to limit the the risk to the building I guess you would say

1987
01:58:52,810 --> 01:58:56,590
and again the cost of a parking structure is just something that we're just trying to keep

1988
01:58:56,590 --> 01:59:01,170
a handle on and try to keep as low as possible was still again provide the greatest opportunity

1989
01:59:01,170 --> 01:59:03,570
for development in the immediate surrounding area.

1990
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,100
Are you good? Are you good? You can think

1991
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,240
of more. All the first, Hanson, was your kind of leader will be here.

1992
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:18,780
In terms of the parking structure, are we planning to charge and if so is the city

1993
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:29,000
holding on to all that revenue than in perpetuity? So part of the parking structure that's a

1994
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:33,140
a whole creation of a parking utility and a variety of other elements, which we've is in our

1995
01:59:33,140 --> 01:59:39,580
scope of walker and with walker to go down. But in short, it's the structure itself will

1996
01:59:39,580 --> 01:59:44,740
have to have paid parking. If somebody wants to reside in it for overnight parking for their

1997
01:59:44,740 --> 01:59:49,280
if they have a second car or anything else that's not provided in their existing building and they

1998
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:54,060
want to lease. You're looking at equal lease rates from most likely what's going to be in

1999
01:59:54,060 --> 01:59:58,980
their structure versus what's the publicly available for overnight parking. There's just no way

2000
01:59:58,980 --> 01:59:59,960
around to being able to build up.

2001
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,180
The parking structure without having a revenue source that is general public revenue as well as additional guaranteed revenue when it comes to general fund, to district funding and a variety of other elements.

2002
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:15,240
And then revenue would presumably go to paying back all these projects in the tether.

2003
02:00:15,660 --> 02:00:18,620
The parking ramp revenue will be going to pay off the parking ramp.

2004
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:24,220
The project itself is to pay off the project revenues that we are going for a barway.

2005
02:00:24,220 --> 02:00:30,040
the parking ramp in this day and age is not going to be your income generating piece.

2006
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:34,860
Larry wants to chime in and just right now the intent is we most like they would create a

2007
02:00:34,860 --> 02:00:40,120
parking utility. So these similar words that kind of a fun words held within that utility.

2008
02:00:41,220 --> 02:00:47,200
Okay. Have there been any traffic studies done on the impact of reopening up the 500 block of

2009
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:51,440
William Street? Traffic studies as in the impact of the neighborhood? Yes.

2010
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:57,620
There have not been. I mean, I think it's a good idea. I'm just kind of curious. We've got that far yet.

2011
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:02,440
In terms of the Plaza, it looks like that's going to be kind of similar to Mayor Walsh Plaza.

2012
02:01:02,660 --> 02:01:05,840
They're going to be any other amenities there for being planned for it.

2013
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:11,160
That is not the level of detail that we've gotten to this element. The overall goal is to provide again a public

2014
02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,240
private partnership, but again, trying to make as much.

2015
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:20,880
I guess just a human movement in between the Plaza spaces as possible and in between in and out of the building.

2016
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,820
And so again, that would be designed during that process,

2017
02:01:24,860 --> 02:01:25,920
during the site plan process.

2018
02:01:26,340 --> 02:01:28,840
And then last question, we get a lot of feedback

2019
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,720
from residents to need more affordable housing,

2020
02:01:30,740 --> 02:01:32,560
and we also need more market rate housing

2021
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,280
because then that can free up affordable housing as well.

2022
02:01:35,860 --> 02:01:38,140
It doesn't look like there's any affordable units

2023
02:01:38,140 --> 02:01:39,480
that are being required in this project,

2024
02:01:39,620 --> 02:01:40,800
so I want to give you a talk about that.

2025
02:01:41,220 --> 02:01:43,940
Yep, it really comes down to making it work

2026
02:01:43,940 --> 02:01:46,480
from a overall tax incremental finance standpoint.

2027
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:53,440
When you take a affordable, a workforce housing project, the assess value decreases because

2028
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:58,060
the overall income generation decreases, and so on the income model, you have that.

2029
02:01:58,460 --> 02:02:04,680
Our decreasing, our continually decreasing mill rate sort of went into that one, but we

2030
02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:09,280
sort of stabilize that with our schedules, but really it just comes down to, is isn't quite

2031
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:13,580
economically feasible for our tid districts at this time when you have this level of buildings.

2032
02:02:13,580 --> 02:02:20,000
If you were to do a smaller scale building and bring in a different developer on maybe our parking lot to the north in the future

2033
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:27,280
We have opportunities and that's really where the parking ramp comes in play is if we anticipate greater parking needs in the area

2034
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:30,000
On some of our existing parking lots to incorporate

2035
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:37,720
Workforce housing are just in other other housing opportunities that helps us kind of turn over some of those parking lots to

2036
02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:43,530
Greater opportunities for workforce housing all the person rash

2037
02:02:43,530 --> 02:02:50,670
Yeah, the first comment is, you know, conceptually looking at this project, it's something

2038
02:02:52,230 --> 02:02:56,250
that downtown's need because it incorporates that some of the population density that we

2039
02:02:56,250 --> 02:03:01,950
need, but the combination of different types of whether it's professional, retail, or even

2040
02:03:01,950 --> 02:03:03,610
the hotel concept as well.

2041
02:03:03,910 --> 02:03:10,150
And I think in order for that downtown's to be thriving, we need to have that kind of a mix

2042
02:03:10,150 --> 02:03:15,730
use that goes on. And the fact that you're actually putting a quite a bit of population down there

2043
02:03:15,730 --> 02:03:22,430
in this project is pretty impressive. Looking at and we go back to the 102 building,

2044
02:03:23,870 --> 02:03:28,130
looking at some of these being six and seven stories of some experience in the 102 and now that we

2045
02:03:28,130 --> 02:03:31,830
at first we were sure how high we could go and then we had to drive some pilings and then we could hit

2046
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:36,530
the fourth floor, then we had the fifth floor. Are we worried about some of that same type of structural

2047
02:03:36,530 --> 02:03:40,750
issue in this area going six to seven stories tall with what looks to be a little bit bigger

2048
02:03:40,750 --> 02:03:47,850
footprint on these buildings. That is a a ownership group just a question. I know they've

2049
02:03:47,850 --> 02:03:51,170
done their their phase one of phase two environmental assessments. Usually when people are doing

2050
02:03:51,170 --> 02:03:55,270
those they're also doing core core drills to figure out their soil suitability. I don't know if

2051
02:03:55,270 --> 02:04:01,250
they've done that at this time. I will also note that in the the council and the plan commission

2052
02:04:01,250 --> 02:04:04,770
made note that you know as we start to get to these higher buildings we start talking about the

2053
02:04:04,770 --> 02:04:10,510
to you notice it as it gets higher up it steps back into the away from the from the streets gate that is

2054
02:04:10,510 --> 02:04:15,430
required in our downtown anything above three stories as well so there's opportunities for how much and

2055
02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:21,050
how far you go back but so we talk about human scale as we go I did want to make sure make the

2056
02:04:21,050 --> 02:04:26,570
public aware that some of the images you may see today aren't exactly to meet code but as we go through

2057
02:04:26,570 --> 02:04:34,750
that process they will I guess you say evolve over time okay so I guess in terms of you know some of

2058
02:04:34,750 --> 02:04:39,310
session for. I think conceptually this is something that the city needs in terms of that mixed use,

2059
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:46,350
getting that population density down there to help create and make this the downtown's work really well.

2060
02:04:46,930 --> 02:04:50,410
So that's exciting for me. Did you have something else to do with that?

2061
02:04:50,650 --> 02:04:54,790
Was that the one? It was the one commented and then it was about the height of the building so

2062
02:04:54,790 --> 02:05:00,150
if we've gone to that level yet to look at, if we can go to six and seven,

2063
02:05:00,190 --> 02:05:02,750
you know, because I know there was a conversation back and forth when we did the 102 that

2064
02:05:02,750 --> 02:05:04,630
But oops, we can't go that high.

2065
02:05:04,930 --> 02:05:05,650
Oh, now we can.

2066
02:05:05,790 --> 02:05:07,970
And now we're going to add that other fifth floor back on top.

2067
02:05:09,410 --> 02:05:10,790
So OK, other questions?

2068
02:05:11,030 --> 02:05:12,050
I'm looking at this side right here.

2069
02:05:12,170 --> 02:05:12,790
I don't want to miss anybody.

2070
02:05:13,750 --> 02:05:14,650
And we're not good.

2071
02:05:15,330 --> 02:05:16,230
Back to this side again.

2072
02:05:18,010 --> 02:05:19,530
Can we get it done by the draft?

2073
02:05:20,530 --> 02:05:20,650
Yeah.

2074
02:05:21,130 --> 02:05:21,490
Yeah.

2075
02:05:22,150 --> 02:05:22,890
I do that.

2076
02:05:24,090 --> 02:05:25,950
They're laughing in the way that's happening.

2077
02:05:26,130 --> 02:05:27,450
So I'm going to say, no.

2078
02:05:27,950 --> 02:05:29,250
Just the one part.

2079
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:30,070
I want that at least.

2080
02:05:30,350 --> 02:05:31,330
Just the first one.

2081
02:05:31,450 --> 02:05:32,530
So what we need right now?

2082
02:05:32,530 --> 02:05:34,690
Now you need to see if there are going to be post-notch issues.

2083
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:39,150
So we can, someone can make a motion just for the terms of concept and that's, we're done

2084
02:05:39,150 --> 02:05:39,730
with it, correct?

2085
02:05:40,290 --> 02:05:43,610
Or if you have something else you want to discuss, that's just in your minds, we have to go

2086
02:05:43,610 --> 02:05:44,230
to post-notch issues.

2087
02:05:44,230 --> 02:05:47,430
So there are questions we're going to post-notch to talk about terms of concept, is that?

2088
02:05:47,470 --> 02:05:52,090
No, you can just, you can just, if we prove it as a concept, or if you want to talk about it

2089
02:05:52,090 --> 02:05:53,570
more in post-notch issues, we can do that.

2090
02:05:54,670 --> 02:05:59,750
But my only follow-up to that will be the approval tonight, it's not locking down all those

2091
02:05:59,750 --> 02:06:04,290
terms, there's still some opportunity for things to change and whatnot as we go through

2092
02:06:04,290 --> 02:06:04,770
the process.

2093
02:06:05,010 --> 02:06:06,790
We're not locked into what happens right now.

2094
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:11,210
In the terms, there is a statement that says we are requesting the ability to be a little

2095
02:06:11,210 --> 02:06:15,370
bit flexible, but if we deviate beyond what we feel is comfortable as a city attorney,

2096
02:06:15,370 --> 02:06:19,170
city administrator, and development services director of what the spirit of the approved

2097
02:06:19,170 --> 02:06:21,170
terms was, we would bring it back.

2098
02:06:21,650 --> 02:06:25,410
I mean, I mean, I mean, as I make that clarifying question, is when we go back to the

2099
02:06:25,410 --> 02:06:29,010
big project, it's about to finish the summer, I know some things changes we went through

2100
02:06:29,010 --> 02:06:34,710
process. With those terms, so I just want to make sure there's a little bit of that

2101
02:06:35,090 --> 02:06:39,750
opportunity or flexibility that's there if something has to change that you'll bring it back to us so we can

2102
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:43,310
we can look at that. Yeah, you'd be notified of any changes prior to any development agreement.

2103
02:06:43,950 --> 02:06:47,130
Okay. So it's basically your comfort level with the people that he had just mentioned,

2104
02:06:47,390 --> 02:06:52,350
you know, which I am. I'm comfortable too. But it's entirely up to you all right here.

2105
02:06:53,850 --> 02:06:58,410
So if that's the case, we don't have to go to closed session. You can make a motion in a second to

2106
02:06:58,410 --> 02:07:04,690
At this point I would make a motion to to approve and accept the recommendation from the

2107
02:07:06,490 --> 02:07:13,350
Development Service Director terms of terms of concept. We want to use that as the just proposed it on the term most development

2108
02:07:14,230 --> 02:07:20,830
Second I'm going that proposed development agreement terms. That's what that's what that's what I'm going with that

2109
02:07:21,710 --> 02:07:23,570
First second you both okay with that

2110
02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:26,090
So we have a motion by all the person who are asked, second of all the person

2111
02:07:26,090 --> 02:07:26,510
against.

2112
02:07:27,210 --> 02:07:30,570
Now that we have the motion in second, any additional comments and door discussion,

2113
02:07:30,730 --> 02:07:31,850
this is what we'll call over the regular.

2114
02:07:32,910 --> 02:07:33,310
Just number.

2115
02:07:33,790 --> 02:07:34,430
Just number.

2116
02:07:35,110 --> 02:07:36,410
Any additional comments or questions?

2117
02:07:36,590 --> 02:07:37,310
All the person who answered.

2118
02:07:37,570 --> 02:07:41,150
We may want to open up the meeting for the developers to say a few words, and also address

2119
02:07:41,150 --> 02:07:43,470
all the person who asked us questions about the story.

2120
02:07:43,470 --> 02:07:44,470
Clearly you're called.

2121
02:07:44,610 --> 02:07:46,090
I'll make a motion open the meeting.

2122
02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:46,670
Second.

2123
02:07:47,150 --> 02:07:49,990
Motion by all the person who answered, second of all the person, Levin,

2124
02:07:50,130 --> 02:07:51,270
to open up the meeting.

2125
02:07:51,330 --> 02:07:52,590
All those in favor say aye.

2126
02:07:52,590 --> 02:07:52,870
Hi.

2127
02:07:53,790 --> 02:07:54,230
Opposed?

2128
02:07:54,850 --> 02:07:55,530
Motion carries.

2129
02:07:55,690 --> 02:07:56,230
Thank you.

2130
02:07:56,290 --> 02:07:59,550
Any or all of the gentlemen want to go to this table right here, we have two seats,

2131
02:07:59,810 --> 02:08:01,050
but we can probably just have one.

2132
02:08:01,250 --> 02:08:02,890
It looks like you need.

2133
02:08:03,490 --> 02:08:05,450
Either Andy for sure wasn't trying.

2134
02:08:05,770 --> 02:08:06,010
That's right.

2135
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:06,930
You didn't even.

2136
02:08:07,190 --> 02:08:08,790
It wasn't even dodgy.

2137
02:08:09,050 --> 02:08:09,410
Got the quota.

2138
02:08:09,930 --> 02:08:10,250
That's a good evening.

2139
02:08:10,910 --> 02:08:11,290
Good evening.

2140
02:08:11,310 --> 02:08:12,490
We have your name and address then.

2141
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:13,770
I'm Jason Totik.

2142
02:08:14,250 --> 02:08:16,810
I live at 332 Automate Circle and Green Bay Wisconsin.

2143
02:08:17,170 --> 02:08:17,650
Thank you.

2144
02:08:17,730 --> 02:08:19,630
I remember one of the questions you want to try to address.

2145
02:08:19,910 --> 02:08:19,930
Sure.

2146
02:08:19,930 --> 02:08:21,610
I mean, whatever you would start with that.

2147
02:08:21,610 --> 02:08:24,070
The question regarding the deep foundation system,

2148
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:25,530
for the ultimate range.

2149
02:08:27,290 --> 02:08:30,170
Short answer is, is we believe that we will need

2150
02:08:30,170 --> 02:08:31,890
deep foundation systems on the site.

2151
02:08:32,610 --> 02:08:35,610
As we're taking the buildings taller, they get heavier.

2152
02:08:36,850 --> 02:08:38,830
There's no doubt that we're gonna need some underground

2153
02:08:38,830 --> 02:08:42,190
parking, and certainly we do no reason to believe

2154
02:08:42,190 --> 02:08:43,770
at this point in time that the foundations

2155
02:08:43,770 --> 02:08:46,530
or the soil bearing capacities are wildly different

2156
02:08:46,530 --> 02:08:47,890
from the sites at the 102.

2157
02:08:47,890 --> 02:08:56,050
You know, it's part of the reason that the request for assistance here is a little bit higher than our initial request at the 102.

2158
02:08:56,610 --> 02:09:01,810
So those numbers, including the deep foundation system, are already, you know, someone baked into our budgets for this project.

2159
02:09:02,730 --> 02:09:07,030
And the deep foundation system allows you to also do the underground parking in place, correct?

2160
02:09:07,270 --> 02:09:10,690
And are you going to use a very similar ratio to parking like you did with the 102?

2161
02:09:10,690 --> 02:09:13,710
So we hope to even have a higher parking ratio.

2162
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:19,490
Certainly, when we added the fifth floor to the 102, we ended up two-shorts, two-stalls

2163
02:09:19,490 --> 02:09:24,230
short at the 102, so we're a little less than one for one, and we would certainly like

2164
02:09:24,230 --> 02:09:29,250
to be at least one for one, and then certainly have the ability to, for residents needing

2165
02:09:29,250 --> 02:09:33,830
a second car, the ability to have some additional supplemental parking and the parking structure.

2166
02:09:34,350 --> 02:09:37,250
We think we'll be at advantage for everyone in the neighborhood.

2167
02:09:37,550 --> 02:09:37,810
Perfect.

2168
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:38,670
Thank you.

2169
02:09:38,670 --> 02:09:45,070
Thank you, other comments or questions before you want to make any kind of all the person kind of

2170
02:09:45,070 --> 02:09:47,150
you're also right in Serenna, Felgis.

2171
02:09:47,490 --> 02:09:48,610
What about timing?

2172
02:09:48,910 --> 02:09:50,510
Oh, the timing for the NFL draft.

2173
02:09:51,090 --> 02:09:54,830
I would love to say that we would be able to get this done in particular, we would be a hotel

2174
02:09:54,830 --> 02:09:56,650
for the NFL draft.

2175
02:09:57,730 --> 02:10:01,950
I really hesitate to say that that's really even feasible at this point in time.

2176
02:10:02,490 --> 02:10:08,270
We're talking about some outline terms today, even if we push the goal button in the next

2177
02:10:08,270 --> 02:10:15,710
60 to 90 days, we'd be 90 days to draw plans, 90 days to permit it, and then realistically

2178
02:10:15,710 --> 02:10:22,430
in today's world, with lead times for a lot of our electrical gear and appliances and

2179
02:10:23,430 --> 02:10:28,330
and just the general backup and the construction industry, we're looking at probably 12 of the

2180
02:10:28,330 --> 02:10:33,230
18 months to build one of these buildings. It's in 2025.

2181
02:10:34,010 --> 02:10:36,630
So you want to go to the full session now and talk about this or what?

2182
02:10:39,090 --> 02:10:40,290
Did you have anything else?

2183
02:10:40,550 --> 02:10:41,790
All the person coming here?

2184
02:10:42,030 --> 02:10:43,170
Anyone else have any questions?

2185
02:10:43,750 --> 02:10:44,510
All the person handsome?

2186
02:10:44,930 --> 02:10:49,370
Yeah, in terms of the timeline, in Daniel's memo, it's kind of staggered.

2187
02:10:49,510 --> 02:10:51,590
Some 24, 25, 26, 27.

2188
02:10:51,710 --> 02:10:54,630
Just kind of wondering, your thought process behind that?

2189
02:10:55,450 --> 02:10:58,230
Well, the reason that we, you know, I guess I'll back up a little bit.

2190
02:10:58,730 --> 02:11:01,490
When we first started this project, we were looking at doing, you know,

2191
02:11:01,490 --> 02:11:03,750
one to two significantly larger structures

2192
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:06,610
and having the mixed uses be kind of baked

2193
02:11:06,610 --> 02:11:11,490
into a larger structure as the world changed a little bit

2194
02:11:11,490 --> 02:11:14,210
with construction pricing as also the cost of interest

2195
02:11:14,670 --> 02:11:17,130
and some of the overall economic uncertainty

2196
02:11:17,130 --> 02:11:21,610
that's been, I guess, present in recent years.

2197
02:11:21,790 --> 02:11:23,850
We decided that it made more sense for us

2198
02:11:23,850 --> 02:11:25,850
to pull back the scale of the project

2199
02:11:25,850 --> 02:11:27,770
and to, you know, number one,

2200
02:11:27,810 --> 02:11:29,910
to respect the scale of the neighborhood in the downtown.

2201
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:41,590
And number two to make each individual project a little less of a hurdle to get into the ground and out of the ground also allow us to react a little bit more quickly to changes in the market.

2202
02:11:43,110 --> 02:11:56,690
And keeping all of these projects a little bit more bite size rather than a full meal, I think will allow us to actually proceed through the site with a little more consistency.

2203
02:11:58,350 --> 02:12:03,230
and really get the first project, you know, focus on the first project and get it going sooner

2204
02:12:03,230 --> 02:12:06,630
than it would if we were to, you know, have one larger project here.

2205
02:12:07,730 --> 02:12:10,570
And the aesthetics of the buildings, they look similar to one or two on Broadway.

2206
02:12:11,130 --> 02:12:17,610
Yeah, I mean, I think that if you take a look at the 102 if you look at the projects that I recently

2207
02:12:17,610 --> 02:12:22,730
completed in downtown Ableton and downtown Nina, I think you'll see some design similarities.

2208
02:12:23,570 --> 02:12:30,470
I'm a believer in having some fairly classic lines to things with some classic materials.

2209
02:12:30,950 --> 02:12:34,990
And I like to build projects that look like they've been there for a while.

2210
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:39,830
And that look like they're going to fit in for 50 years, at least after that.

2211
02:12:40,210 --> 02:12:40,710
Generations.

2212
02:12:42,370 --> 02:12:43,130
For generations.

2213
02:12:43,370 --> 02:12:44,570
Correct, for generations.

2214
02:12:45,010 --> 02:12:45,670
Keep that going.

2215
02:12:47,150 --> 02:12:48,310
The theme of the night.

2216
02:12:48,770 --> 02:12:49,670
You have the keeps on giving.

2217
02:12:49,670 --> 02:12:49,970
Yeah.

2218
02:12:51,670 --> 02:12:52,250
All the person answered?

2219
02:12:52,350 --> 02:12:52,790
I'm good.

2220
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:53,490
You're good.

2221
02:12:53,730 --> 02:12:54,270
Shayna's got it.

2222
02:12:54,270 --> 02:12:57,530
By the way, since we get a lot of emails and phone calls regarding the Shopco Building,

2223
02:12:57,530 --> 02:13:01,210
of course it's going to come down so you can publicly state right now the Shopco

2224
02:13:01,210 --> 02:13:04,370
Building's coming down because I get suggestions for all kinds of things in that building.

2225
02:13:04,530 --> 02:13:06,610
Provided we come to terms in a development agreement.

2226
02:13:07,070 --> 02:13:07,970
Shopco Building will come in.

2227
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:10,170
Based over seeing that generally is the general.

2228
02:13:10,570 --> 02:13:11,830
Yeah, you say you want to go and go down.

2229
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:12,010
Yeah.

2230
02:13:12,250 --> 02:13:13,190
You want to go to a closed session.

2231
02:13:13,230 --> 02:13:14,210
Halloween Express.

2232
02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:16,750
Yeah, that's his favorite one.

2233
02:13:17,370 --> 02:13:18,330
That's what he always said.

2234
02:13:20,170 --> 02:13:23,630
So just to get that out there for the general public right now.

2235
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:24,650
All the person left.

2236
02:13:24,730 --> 02:13:25,810
That was my question.

2237
02:13:26,030 --> 02:13:29,410
It says in here raised shop co-building prior January 1st, 2024.

2238
02:13:30,250 --> 02:13:31,010
That would be our goal.

2239
02:13:31,370 --> 02:13:31,430
Awesome.

2240
02:13:33,190 --> 02:13:34,070
Thank you.

2241
02:13:34,230 --> 02:13:36,110
Sorry about that all the person left and I'm sorry.

2242
02:13:37,030 --> 02:13:38,870
I'll give you any other questions that we have.

2243
02:13:39,230 --> 02:13:40,330
Jason's right here.

2244
02:13:41,650 --> 02:13:44,670
Jason, any else that you want to offer while we're in open session?

2245
02:13:45,030 --> 02:13:47,190
Just want to, you know, first of all,

2246
02:13:47,190 --> 02:13:49,850
It's always a pleasure to work with the City of Defear.

2247
02:13:50,070 --> 02:13:52,470
Dan's been working tirelessly on this project.

2248
02:13:53,290 --> 02:13:54,830
You know, really appreciate his assistance.

2249
02:13:54,950 --> 02:13:56,710
This doesn't happen without him.

2250
02:13:56,970 --> 02:13:58,090
It's a great community to work with.

2251
02:13:58,210 --> 02:14:01,130
We have great staff and, you know, terrific community.

2252
02:14:01,490 --> 02:14:02,970
And thank you for your support on this.

2253
02:14:04,090 --> 02:14:05,070
Thank you very much.

2254
02:14:05,090 --> 02:14:05,410
Thank you.

2255
02:14:05,450 --> 02:14:06,370
Thank you to all of you.

2256
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:08,890
It's great interest that you have in the site

2257
02:14:08,890 --> 02:14:10,290
and all that you're doing so far.

2258
02:14:11,470 --> 02:14:12,270
Anybody else?

2259
02:14:12,750 --> 02:14:12,990
All right.

2260
02:14:13,170 --> 02:14:15,010
I need a motion that to go back for extra moves.

2261
02:14:15,190 --> 02:14:15,490
Second.

2262
02:14:15,490 --> 02:14:22,850
Motion by all the person who asked second by all the person led me to go back to regular session all those in favor say I

2263
02:14:22,850 --> 02:14:26,710
Pose motion carries thank you we're back in regular session right now

2264
02:14:26,710 --> 02:14:34,390
We do have a motion and we do have a second on the terms and the project so any additional questions end or comments all the person

2265
02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:38,610
Gants I just want to say thank you for putting all your hard work in the way

2266
02:14:38,610 --> 02:14:44,110
And I think it looks great and we're excited and I'm sure the communities kind of be excited

2267
02:14:44,110 --> 02:14:48,310
It's been a while, so everyone is like, what are you doing with that chopper?

2268
02:14:48,710 --> 02:14:52,410
What's going in there? So we're excited. Thank you.

2269
02:14:58,680 --> 02:14:59,160
Exactly.

2270
02:15:02,120 --> 02:15:04,160
Any additional comments, then, door discussion?

2271
02:15:06,580 --> 02:15:21,540
All right, seeing there is none, first step moving on right now. That said, all those in favor, say aye, a post, motion carries. Thank you, step one. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. So what is Facebook?

2272
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:24,880
I don't know what that is for that.

2273
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:25,560
The Facebook.

2274
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:27,840
Well, for the candidates.

2275
02:15:28,260 --> 02:15:29,080
The truth and I.

2276
02:15:29,340 --> 02:15:30,140
I don't know what that is.

2277
02:15:30,140 --> 02:15:31,280
All right.

2278
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:35,060
Now we officially will be going to close session for this next item.

2279
02:15:35,220 --> 02:15:36,000
We have to correct.

2280
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,020
So now I'm going to go with the legal East stuff.

2281
02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:39,900
I'm sure you get the motion.

2282
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:41,460
I'm going to get them first and then say this.

2283
02:15:41,700 --> 02:15:43,160
We need a motion to go on to.

2284
02:15:43,580 --> 02:15:44,740
I'll read this first.

2285
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:45,160
We'll first.

2286
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:46,160
You can ask you.

2287
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:47,340
All right.

2288
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:50,820
I will say the item is 32 consideration

2289
02:15:50,820 --> 02:15:54,360
and possible action of fire department pay claims, me read.

2290
02:15:54,820 --> 02:15:59,700
Please take notice that the council may convene a close session for agenda item now 32,

2291
02:16:00,200 --> 02:16:05,960
for soon to any of the following provisions on the Wisconsin Statue 1985 L. For the purpose

2292
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:10,500
of deliberating or negotiating the purchasing of public properties, the investing in public

2293
02:16:10,500 --> 02:16:15,440
funds, or conducting other specified public business, whenever competitive or bargaining reasons

2294
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:21,080
require a closed session and, for conferring, with legal counsel who is rendering oral or

2295
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:25,920
written advice concerning strategy to be adopted by the council, with respect to litigation

2296
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:31,300
in which it is or is likely to become involved, the council may then reconvene thereafter

2297
02:16:31,300 --> 02:16:37,640
in open session, pursuant to Wisconsin Statue Section 1985-2 to report the results of the

2298
02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:42,740
closed session, and consider the balance of the agenda I would now entertain a motion.

2299
02:16:42,740 --> 02:16:48,420
Make the motion to go into closed session. Motion by all the person rash second by all the person gants

2300
02:16:49,260 --> 02:16:50,680
Role call vote please

2301
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:53,860
All the person carpenter. All right. Gants. I

2302
02:16:53,860 --> 02:16:54,980
Gants in I

2303
02:16:54,980 --> 02:16:57,860
Coney girl. Hi, Ludvina. Hi. I

2304
02:16:57,860 --> 02:17:04,640
Ferock. Hi. Wiggly. Hi. Rash. Hi. Please take notice that this media will be locked for the closed session

2305
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:11,640
Unauthorized attendees will be disconnected from the meeting during the closed session. If you'd like to rejoin the meeting after the closed session

2306
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:19,940
Please wait five minutes and use the same meeting connection information to reconnect in the meeting you'll be placed in the meeting lobby until the meeting resumes from the closed session

2307
02:17:19,940 --> 02:17:24,640
If you are not part of the closed session at this time, please disconnect from the meeting now

2308
02:17:25,980 --> 02:17:28,640
Jamie, I've done it. I've read it. You can now do it.

2309
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:30,860
Thank you.

2310
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:34,080
We're all set.

2311
02:17:35,060 --> 02:17:35,500
No.

2312
02:17:36,700 --> 02:17:37,960
There's a way to

2313
02:17:37,960 --> 02:17:39,880
I'm going to take a break so I don't like that much.

2314
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:41,000
All right.

2315
02:17:43,360 --> 02:17:57,700
This conference will now be recorded back on all mics around we are now back in regular session and I'd entertain a motion on item thirty two consideration possible action on fire department pay claims

2316
02:17:58,280 --> 02:18:07,500
I will make a motion to approve this settlement as proposed motion by all the person by all the person dance any additional discussion and door comments

2317
02:18:08,580 --> 02:18:09,820
Seeing there is none.

2318
02:18:10,020 --> 02:18:10,780
Roll call, vote, please.

2319
02:18:11,300 --> 02:18:12,280
All the person, Hansen.

2320
02:18:12,960 --> 02:18:13,440
Conigur.

2321
02:18:13,980 --> 02:18:14,520
Let me know.

2322
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:15,580
Peerock.

2323
02:18:15,820 --> 02:18:15,980
Aye.

2324
02:18:16,340 --> 02:18:16,580
Quickly.

2325
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:17,220
Aye.

2326
02:18:20,820 --> 02:18:21,780
Motion carries.

2327
02:18:21,980 --> 02:18:22,600
Thank you.

2328
02:18:22,860 --> 02:18:23,840
Item 33.

2329
02:18:24,340 --> 02:18:26,360
I'd entertain a motion to adjourn.

2330
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:27,840
So moved.

2331
02:18:28,820 --> 02:18:29,020
Second.

2332
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:32,020
Motion, all the person, quickly, second, all the person, Peerock.

2333
02:18:32,080 --> 02:18:33,480
All those in favor say aye.

2334
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:35,580
Opposed.

2335
02:18:35,580 --> 02:18:38,640
Motion carries. Thank you, we're officially adjourned. Thank you everybody.